Star. — London, England, 1808-02-12 00:00:00

i • • , e ft neards sweeaderlicl tiktlwen At that time which e •red . frota IC • i(ing Prussia retired onigsberg to Me. the a not thinking hi qiustil,afe there, had .111' ari a a house at R,iga. On e . 29d of Fe ign ), wrote to Ministers, mentioning that a rtrech G"eeneral had arrived . at Memel to piarpOse a : Ga ret . e peace ; and if the Count de Zaatrow suppoe e--, last p f xf eparate peace,it was not because he cos ea teghe : cause of las attached than any ,othsr. ma; p rt issi'a and the Continent, but becaus e knew_ the auation of Russia . and Prussia,. and w h is convinced t hat they had no chance by badgercor.tinume contest, I t he beginning -of April- be had long conVer ia,„ who afterwards :do with the Eroper.er, ef.R.VS§ ;f el led him to one of his . Ministers, who told him, t hat as soon as the Russian guards came up they co uld be superior in, number to the French, and were determined to a tteckisthere. The Russians neither kos , g e e f o rce which. opposed them, • nor how much. esek•owo numbers in the field were. inferior to their ar mies upon paper. The Noble • Lord -was then pro. • cee dine to state the nature of different :dispatches be, 'tweenlim and the present Ministers, when Lord I3ATHURST rose to order. He, theee.hr, it was completely out oforder for any Noble Lora to sa te, at his own pleasure, all the conversations be 'tweet% Kings and Emperors, which, by his official situation, he might have heard, or t 9, dieolge coadentidconununications whichteols place betwecp i I t o Government and-if: it was competes*, fessany one i n dividual to do - sis r it was equally com petent for any other individual In his Majesty's s ante. [Al o ng and animated conversation then took plate th.respectto the polut of order. It was cont ended by the oaISCILINC.EI.LoR and Lord HawKEsBURY I that it as quite out of order for , any individual in the publicsereice to state the contents of dispatches which were supposed to belong only to his Majesty, s ad-which had not been regularly befors.thte. House.] Lord GRENVILLE hoped their Lordships would never countenance such a construction of their , o rders, as that after a Minister has thought proper to pall from his pocket confidential dispatches from other Noble Lords, and read from them sentences, and half sentences, which had the effect of misrepre ening their communications in confidential situ ations, for the purpose of criminating their conduct in the eyes of the Public, it should be deemed a vio lation of order for Noble Lords, so misrepresented, to rise in their places, and vindicate their characters by plain statements of facts. Not only had a vili fication been attempted in that House, but even in ;public Newspaper, wherein the conduct of his Noble and Gallant Friend had, been arraigned, and himself reproached for the. counsel ha had giyen. Into the . same Paper another attempt-to *-ow odium upon his Majesty's late Government: had found its way, in the shape of, a coefidgiiiii4, dccw neat, but garbled and mutilated. for the,- purposes. of misrepresentation, and which could have been obtained in no other way than through the medium of a, Secretary of State. It was . against misrepre sentations of this sort that his Noble Friend- hadi risen to vindicate himself, not by an unwarrantable disclosure of confidential dispatches, but by a plain . statement of truths, in refutation of falsehoods. ItnrcI.MULGII-A-YE trPg 2 4. their . Lordships, in maintaining' the orders of, their : House, would not take cognizance of any thing that had, appeared in,a, Newspaper, which in no degree interfered with these orders. If the editor SAW paper had done any thing wrong, there were other-means and . other tribunals to make him do right ; and with respect to the allusion of the Noble Lord, to extracts remit: dispatches, another Noble Lord, his former co gue in office, bad done the same thing in the course of the debate, by repeatedly referring. to- the dispatches of a Mr. Stewart, and of the Marquis of Douglas, resident at the Russian Court, during - the last Administration. Earl GREY denied that he had said any thing of slat was contained in the dispatches of the Noble Lord, or the respectable Gentleman alluded to by the Noble Lord, Lord t IIPTCHINSON again rose and resumed his speech. He said he itatinot rtseri for the purpose of be traying . confidential dispatches, but of vindicating him . sellagaiast gross:misrepresentation. He never would allow les, name to be given as the sanction of mis representation. He owned he had entertained hopes, flein the confident assurances of the Emperor of Reu el; in the month of February, that the Russian army completely.beat the French across the Vistula, but 'when. he found that promise had complre:ly filed, and, *at the month of April. a complete ` 4.1 A 0 a circumstances hid taken place, all hopes wWI4. and his doulge were decided • and • there fute:ber strongly. advised his Majesty ' s. Ministers not to:sendAman,to the scene of war, confident. that it could have et) selutery, effect. No man that knew any thing of the prieciples of war, would advise. the throw ukt egnallarld.cemparatiyely insignificant force in the tear of so great an ary i m as di-it-which France had on theVistila. l)onaparte, who uederstoodmiratarY, mete.- neintsbetter than any. other man, 'had thrown, another . rat force- into, 4. situation, which must, have been la the rear of a Brit4h army , and thus ensure its de struction, Hid a forty been sent, it would have en • ra redlewerrAhance of min, or it might have escaped but it could not hake rendered -any effectual, service. Stralsund alone offered,a safe retreat ;. hence he ad vivsed that the Eypedition should be sent there, if any. lie respected Out courage and patience of the Russian army ; but it could not contend eezainst the French, who were in every thing their superiors, ex-, HOUSE•OF COMMONS. Mr, JOHNSTONE brought up an account of Receipts and disbursements from the Commissioners of Accounts in IreLmil, made up to January last.—Ordered to lic on the table. Sir JOHN NEWPORT moved, that the 33d Report of the Commissioners presented , to the House should be. printed, which was ordered accordingly. • -- OFFICE Mr. HUSKISON stated, that in consequence of the new system for the management of accounts at the Water-side, one of fice. had not been abolished which was held by a Noble Lord of the other House, and which it was the intention of the Commons, in a late Act, to have discontinued. He therefore should move for leave to bring in a . Bill, for abolishing the office of Surveyor of Petty Customs in the Port of London.—Agreed to. DROITS OF ADMIRALTY, SCC. Sir.FR ANCIS BIJRDETT said he should, pur suant to his notice'of yesterday, move for the pro. duction of certain acounts. As he was not aware that any objection would be made to what he had to propose, he should desist from all comment. He !then moved, • " For en account of all captures made at sea by his Majesty's Naval F , rces,since the year 1792 ; 4ritlithe produce of each spe cific . capaure, and. its. applicationalininctly se;. forth : also the amount of captures now remalitiniin the b i nds of the Crown." The CHANCELLOR of the E XCHEQUER thought. thatit • wouldbe utterly.impossibli to procure the ascouats in the form in which they were desired by. the Honourable Baronet. The captures were refer ? . table to t*o severallteads.of accounts : the. (*ft tfl which Majelty was entitled jare.corape • - tle otAer on which he had'a claim as proiis considerable portion of. the produce. was applied, by the munificence of the 4pygreigp, to the enetbr ;. the Test was the private property of his Majesty. As to. Ith-s appropriation of the fund, it might be good grOund id Parliamentary rept:Olen - On ' • tut as to the fund itself, there could be no doubt tinitit was the emelt'. sive property Of , the Crown. He foresaw no ohjec tion, however, to the delivery of an , account, stating the sum total received. from this.source in the course of the year, or of any given number of years,_ since `1x792, if the Honourable Baronet wished; it. If; after !so much information.wasobtainedi the Mouse thought the money in !properly disposed: of, and any. From Member *Quid spew a colourable pretext addl. : itional• investigation, then. further. patticulers.tnighl. be ,called, for, to satisfy Parliament on the subject. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT-said; he woulf:k make, :no difficulty is withdrawing hit motion, and PrPp9 6- ling another in, the, form suggpted hy,the. Right , kio, inourahle CFRlttlenaw. I€ it / seze . trw.th4p, the amount IWas.Of enocipottOpprtitu4e, • ettclor.. iskood, hq.bapecl tbg - VIOUtSP WP4111.0k15#1111re.;11# the !vsount shp - uld . hi LA wh ic h it sa l l so? lone cogthiped r 'WO i4agd: the .of the claim of the crown to theDFOitoit, ; iralty c :as. now, pretended, 3 . .wy Beason hie 40,sen 1 which, WEIS 454 ti?. reM4 4 ? unsettled. ' t 1 }9, 1 ;moved ; for' he agiount of the casafes. Race 1 • 2,40, Tpr, the, azliptOt 41, pent hatkis - Of:the Ciown un#lplied. • 1 cept courage, Lprd GREN,V,ILLE enwesseclhis satisfaction that, The earugstly desired, discussion had. tx)vf takeu,PlPPe 4 01 4 the. cominct of his . Majesty's late.Governmeut. t ; upon. whose measiges. qui characters- so much t ltiri.hAit beep throw,, by their- mgcSnsPr.tOmit wii9.'hads *mod. the debate of thut . night ) the moo ample l ind.ic-adoP• Co4sciottsus,he was h of the. rectititfle Vfi "POPO op the. part of that Administration, and con, viuce4tW the result-of whenever brougbt. fl ; l rward, Would bp. an entire, eacultiation, yet the ex, cuiPatiou of that. night. admitted.* it vras,by. the libe, ralacknottledgeirmits of the Noble 6pcxetary, of. state,, flonl4J - lawke)bury) exceeded even.his most sanguifte "PA. The late Coeurnmeat had been, blamed, for. nt4 proyiding against the. w* with, W. 4 .4 the coo duet of the' King of Prussia hack then Eto!firnltght with :Infatuation and. folly as scarcely tobe paralleled : it cfunigstsly,juktifugl s s e liglioeci ! overnment, in the con dUct they aaoktitopsiasds:tkat Monarch, When his *is. recalled ham this country, it was even ... . • • 40 416 - 4;03).4 . 1kt to him, that by prolonging-his stn 7 hire; Sir . .CHAILLES4VIZ 'wished ahat l-1 ur even in a private character, matters mightbe adjuitei; able Bares k, aii it-tiroetia ofscr much national im but. his recal was so peremptory that all eipectatiotts portarice hid gone snore into 'detail. • EVeriy Cla'y 'coil vanished : and ; on his return to . Harriblirgh,.he.;eal, vinced bimof the necessity-of putting the Admiralty' met by dispatches front his Coirt, acquainting hilts i CoOrt into a very different situation ; and he had him-: that. a total change had taken place in the Prussian j self prepared.a motion lath reference to it. • Governthent. 1 - The : ADVOCAT - E , GENERAL did not .know Another of the charge% Lortt Grenville then notited,.. ; distinctly, what the Honourable Baronet who spoke thechargo of not seeding Awl :to the, Russians. and hit. alluded to,. nor what application, such. a inatter Vindicated . the Ministry, on. the reasons given, and could bear to the present question . The subject be. authority of Lord Hutchinson . But the NobleLcird• fore the House ought whe correctly .understood. had,said, that . pecuniary alit ;night have been,affer . ..1 The. property referred to was of , two kinds : one part 1 ed i that,the late Ministers refused even to sanctiOst of it was held jure corona, the other in the office of Russian lean in this country of six millions... to Lord High AdmiraL The captures before the istu iis he would answer, that under the-state of affairs ink of general reprisals belonged to the formers the n the Continent, when , facilities of . raising money f captures afterwards to thelatter, and these were there: Were required of this country, the money could not fore called Droits of Admiralty. The one was usually. 10 .obtained here without the guarantee of Govern- acquired. prior, the other. subsequent to the declara. tanent ; and taught by the experience of a former gua-_ don* of hostilities; and they were coniepiently oh tee for an Austrian loan, it behoved the late Go- mined under very: different circumstances. In the ferment to act with some caotion before she gave year. 1795, when the French invaded Holland,: nine , 4notherguarantee for such a sum as six millions, which months elapsed before the King declared war igainst might eltimately fall as a burthen on the people of this Holland, and encouragement was given to the Dutch eountry;butsaidnohleLords,youmighthavegranted a to settle in neutral countries, or to emigrate to Ens. subsidy of three millions, and you would then at least I land.: On their compliance, their property seized iii have shewn your zeal to. assist Russia, and secure her our ports was to be restored to them, otherwise notice.. good -opinion, that you felt for her distresses. He w-as given that it would be condemned. They ald would answer, that they were ready to subsidize, if it not accede to the proposal, and on the 15th. Seprem.. Could have been shewn that any good was to be ber , in th e same y ear,: it was condemned. The Hck • gainedbr..-it. Noble Lords said, but why did not you nourable and Learned Member proceeded -to she* at least make a spew of diversion, by collecting a' other instances of the same kind with respect to Spa large fleet of transports, and a march of troops to i Wish, Prussian, and Danish property, • in 1796, 1800, your coasts, in order to excite alarm in the enemy'and and 1807, and this was that distinction, he said, to divide his attention. To this he would answer, that which the King was entitled jure core". (He then the enemy knew as well as we that we could not be continued.) It might be satisfactory that the mode Serious in such an enterprize, which served only to de- should be explained to the House in which .it had Jude our ally, and encourage him to contieue a fruit- been applied. The Honourable Baronet who spoke less contest. Still, his Lordship said, the country was last, he knew, had the interest of the navy much at not without resources, and could have gone very great heart, and he would learn with pleasure, that two lengths both in military and pecuniary aids, had there thirds of the amount had been devoted for essential %masa probability of such aid being in any way useful; services rendered to the country by that important ,andas to an observation made that the late Ministry branch of the public force. One million had been paid should have advised Russia to make peace with France, a considerable time since, and another within the two ,he would not transgress the point of order so recently last years. From the same source, compensation had I discussed, by stating the contents of d is p atc h es ; been made to p ersons who had su ff ered upon the coin iit if the. Noble Secretary of State read the Russian mencement of hostility, and whose property had been dispatches of the last three months , he was confident scattered during the former war. The Government the. Noble Lord would never again come down to of Spain, in other cases, had promised to make re that House , and rebuke him on the same ground. — munerat ion ; but not havin g ke p t its faith, Commis- The Noble Lord finally adverted to the disastrous sioners 'were appointed to relieve the disappointed issue. of the war, and the final loss of Europe—a con- from the same fund. A portion had been given to sequence .which he did not hesitate to impute to a parties who, in the execution of their public offices, measure from which he was always strongly averse, had been obliged to restore property- which would and which, had, not the country and the world sus- otherwise have devolved to them. Cases of com tained the calamit"us loss of.a . great Statesman now miseration and recompence were also found among no more, probably might not have happened, those who, from the insolvency of captors , had been namely, the -last continental coalition of the. Powers deprived of their rights. Some allusion would pro of Europe in 1805, stirred up by this country to a bably be made to the appropriation of another part of. renewal of the war against Franca, at a time when this fund. The Kiog had applieda very small part they were actually unprepared .for sdch a contest. The of . this produce in acts of grace , to the y oun g er utter defeat of Austria was one of the first fruits of that branches of the Royal Family. If there. were any conflict, which was commenced in direct opposition to Members in that Hou se who thou g ht such cones , , the opinion and advice of the. ablest authority in the sions improper, he was one of those who was not ' German empire, and. that defeat had been followed ashamed to differ from them on this subject. The by the complete subjugation of the Continent to the House would dispose of the question in the way that ',power of France- Tie concluded : by expressing his *shoUld be judged proper :, but in his opinion there confidence, 'that the House and the country'were now Was no ground whatever for the production of the ac satisfied ; aind be should never hear it. urge; aglin,. counts, or for the inquiry. that any thing done, or omitted [o be done, by his' '- Mr. - LIJSHINGTON could by no means concur . Majesty's late Ministers had any thing to do in the with the Right Hon. and Learned Gent leman who causes that led to the su bjugation ' of Europe. .spoke last, as to the inexpediency of moving for the Lord MULGRAVE very shortly replied—when accounts. He would mention one instance of mis the Lord Chancellor put the motion, and the papers application, of a most extraordinary kind. An Ho moved were granted, except those objected to by Lord nourable Baronet, a Member of that House, (Sir Hawkesbury.—Adjourned at twelve o'clock. Borne Popham) obtained leave to quit the British -service ; and having so done, he purchased a* ship, sAtled at Ostend, and exchanged the vessel so pro cured for another named the El Trusco. Thus pro vided, the Honourable * Baronet sailed for India, where he loaded his ship, proceeded from thence to Dunge ness, and there'ran in ; or, to speak more intelligibly, smuggled in a part of the cargo. After some trans. . actions in which Lieutenant Bowen, of the Brilliant, was concerned, the ship came within the jurisdiction i of.the Court-of Admiralty. • Proceedingk were there -upon instituted, and claims were put in by the Ho i)ourable Baronet, to the amount of 100,0001. ; and he ;demanded the restoration of the vessel, as,being his jown property. In that Court he avoided prOft si, and absconded. Captain Robinson, who was the, captor s received nothing ; but in September, 1805, his Ma jesty, in compliance with the recommendation of Mr. l'itt, Mr. Long, and another • Lord of the Titeasury, . Made .the Hov.onrable. Baroriet. a present of* thUsurn ! of 44,0001. He presumed that this would not he -reckoned among the rewards assigned for meritorious services : it was, in truth, a reward to an Officer of the Navy, for having violated the lawsof his country. ..He y put it to the feelings. of the House;--he put it to j thejudgment of the Right Hon. and Learned Gentle: man, if' such in . application, of these funds could on any groonitbe justified? He thotight . the whole navy , cf Great 'Britain, and the whole country, would la . --spent such a diversion of the property from its legiti ,glate appropriatiOn. The Honourable Baronet did , not event pay t o . the captors their eapences out, of the amount thus gratuitoully besthwed upon him. The Right. Hon. and Learned Gentleman would recollect that he delayed some timiliefore he i.routd. venture to sanction. such a grant; and this circumstance ought to be mentioned_ to his. credit. The documents from which he had.aequiied this . information he had. only,e.duli• *ruing i and he thought that aftei pro w. so suraarkable. an instance of misapplication, , the Hense ought to obtain from Ministers all the sa-1 trsfaition • thef Could supply, at to the appropr . intics, of this enormous fund. . Sir HOW ROPUAM felt himself calla& upon to speak in his own vindication, after the personal iattack made upon him by the FlOnouiable Member, wjthout, any previous notice'. For such ait areus . a.. I tiou r. he, ought to have been better pareil...--bUt, he Artet,meet it when and. where he fotmeh it. He. posi. rtorely declared, that when' he went W:lndia s it was j i iiithe timed, profound. peace ; and deiiiig that inter ' t, he.sroployecl .; hiols* as . much as itias possible io 111. way. beieficial to'ille:puile.• Those who were hest !acquainted with his conduct would confirm the asser -4430Ti. Marquis Cornsiallis had done him 'the houour. lar i e a c ii ontmend him to the Court of Directors, of the hadll lloaUd a4 ot T Ad ai re g imltY rfg his ue serv ated 'ices ti 7tha W t the proper the ivard might be assigned : for *in *lt vas true r that .. , . . ... , - falprith! solicitude to be einploiod, he had _engaged 1 pricer a neutral flag, but in so dgitig. he had only 1, acted as others, in the.like circumstaaes, had done ; f y , 1 '. Ind'. V' . a...5._1 ,A........ $e ',1'.,..tik1-tedt:ccui It 'lra, nwa'inai. be ' ' his 'conduct iiy they ; were. ,•-.. .', • •tireiri lit 'it fair tokiY,.thatliis exerticinii* thepith_: Eo f Aloe:A), since going *out under a fiiittignliAg, thili;,: • roust lilive" been of On eitraoriliillirki nature--1 'rectors had been indriced to apply or a e&rre , pensition for the 'utility lie :hid • ienderid. lie did ; not see why the term eitrb.ordinary. should excite i laugh.: but he.begged Orden for having used it, if it .were irregular—he was certainly sorry to .Lave gone out withia neutral flog, but we often did thin lii• a 'moment - .of • irritation which •we would not dot, afterwar-cli. He shotild,: be glad • if the Honourable. Gentleman would take the trouble or moving for all thepapers tomb the India House, andthenle would be seen if he had deserved the sort Of attack mad e frpon him 6n a charge of smuggling., • Mr. SHERIDAN . agreed -with the Honourable Paptain.that, oiler an attack so serious, he did right to propose that the matter should not rest 'there,' but go to a'course of minute investigation. • He must oh- Serve it was the more expedient to enquire, since the Honourable Captain in his defence said; that he had, made use of a neutral flag, in a moment of irritation, to gain practice in hii profession. klii•had• heard of .- other officers serving under neutral.: fiags't bat'. how' had - they been engaged in their professi4Onal 'eharie ter ? They were fighting the battlet.sof: our ' allies. , -.- How was - the Honourable Captain practising the ditties of his profession ?' He was landing goods at . ... . • 'Dungenest. The • CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER spoke.to Order. He could not sit still and hear - ohser . - cations of this kind upon the question before the House. There watio . motion by - which the Charac rer of the Hen: Captain was at all at issue. He was sure that the Right Hon. Gentleman would not com plier of the interrtiption, but would rather be dis posed to thank him for preventing tbitirregularity. The SPEAKER said, that he thought it difficult to determine what were the precise limits of order on the occasion ; but of this he was sure, that by abitain ing froM piirsuing the debate in that manner, the House would best consult its own dignity. Mr. SHERIDAN resumed, that he did not wish to complain, but he must insist that he was' strictly in order. The Right Honourable arid Learned Gen tleman had intimated that there was not a Single in stance tole prodtieed of • the misapplication of these Admiralty Droits. An Honourable Gentleman had informed the House of a most flagrant abuse in this department, and with perfect regularity. He (Mr. Sheridan) was commenting upon it. It was not a mere matter of vague and idle rumour—it was a fact established in a Court of Record, beyond the poisibi lity of contradiction. He would say one word as to the genuine object of the motion—it was not to know the amount, but the application of it. If this produce were unquestionably the right of his Majesty, and the sum . were insignificant, no examination would: be necessary ; but if, in consequence of the bellige rent state of Europe, it had risen to an immense amount, it was discreet to enquire, not only to ascer tain its•preriOus extent and appropriation, but to de termine if such a fimd ought to continue in fir hands of the Crown, independent of the ,salutary controul, of Parliament. He himself was not-disposed to ob ject to the grants of a portion of these jars corona to khe younger branches of - the Royal Family; but he' lthought th e concession ought tole extended higher. ' He should have approved of the application of some part of the fund tO Ins Royal. Highness the Prince of Wales, whose claims on the Duchy of Cornwall re anain unadjusted. i The JUDGE ADVOCATE said, that withregard tt, o the grant to the Hon. Captain, he thought, after !what had been said, that it was necessary he should ;give some explanation. (A cry of Order! Order 1) !If it were not esteemed to be reg:ular, he would not • obtrude the subject upon the House. Whether . the Hon. Captain did right or wrong, he established hini self at Ostend, and. went from thence to India on a mercantile speculation, and he was perhaps liaßlitii the prohibitory laws, as chargeable with the violation of the Charter of the India Company. His being there was however known to the highest Officers of Government, and he was countenanced, it being the adopted policy of the India Company to encourage the exportaticn of their commodities in foreign bot toms. Amidit the cries, of Order on every side, Mr. TIERNEY rose, • to request that the Learned Gentleman would confine himself to facts, and spate all comment. 'The SPEAKER desired the Right Hon. and Learned Membe'r to confine his remarks to Mere nit. ter of explanation: It was the 1144 of the Reuse Iti avoid dilating on such occasions '!' ~_. .. The ADVOCATE GENERAL was about bo proceed with his reasons for advising the remittirig air the forfeiture to Sir Home Popham , when he slisT*: terrupted by * * The SPEAKER, who observed, that there was a report waiting at the Bar to which all other businesi• gave way, namely, the reduced List of the Coniniit: tee which had just been ballotted for. • • - • The names of the Members were as follow : . 1 EVESHAM. COMMITT E E. I I John Pane, Esq. W. Orde, Esq. D. Vender Hayden, Esq. J. 'Calvert, Esq. W. MipsEsq. . James Buller (of Exeter) Esq. 1 J.M. Lloyd, 4sq, T. Stanley, Esq, 1 Sir. C. Pole, Bart. Sir W. inglebb Sart. I W. E. Palmer, Esq. T. Tyrwhit, Esq.. Quinton Dick, Esq. Right Hon. George Tierney and ). L Lockhart, Esq. Nominees. The Committee Having withdrawn, The SPEAKER said, this interruption having taken place, he thought it would be necessary for shim to re-state the question, that the House mighi. know exactly what it was that was the point hi e•- ' bate. He then read the original motion, Ind added i diat since that was made, the Right Hotionrabr4dre CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed- somethifit by way of amendment, to which he understood the Honourable Baronet to have acceded ; but the said , amendment had only been read by the Right Ho; nourable Gentleman in his place, andnot fewn 'tbe 'Chair. If the Honourable Baronet, theidari, agreed to the proposed amendment, the right cciiii. would be to read it from the thair ; bin If neo,;* . i ' culd be necessary that it should be firsfregobry 1, moved, which had not yet been done, in ';'otise:, 1 ipience of the sudden turn %arid' the debate - ha, Taken, and of the interruption which l a id i z ia• place. . •- - 77. - - -- . - - ' Lord FOLKESTONE said, he thought thefo'ltif should proceed an the original motion i for biji yid' • f r ,140. he field to su p • Port! ) L'ontinent ap p e a state as the l ate it. ff it by princip a ll y by supe. be supposed that ti ght have b een taksa ally as it wa s gl ess. perate with its whole able Lo r d a l so in rbn would .not grant er than h e ur oo k that .such loan would y, and that a large of loan than would e thought t h e sum of e to toe Emp eror of ; but it slid n ot f t & too large, Mi n i sters and not give n any awer who asked assi s , but it did not follow isistance at all should have objected to sir d that it was a cam: e of Europe was de: cted to three minioosi mate gratifying ttrtly 'bought then, the l a n yi n , at least that pe, cumstances required; -ight to expect. H e did not charge th em tense, or violation ct :rayon, yet that they t a hope, and induced their intention to e n , apectations had bee t re now taught to lock lax goaded others to a rag in the dangers and He thought it would risk of a loss of troops r, and be considered a .ithers in dangers that e also thought the lass lking of co-ore ra ti ous , ns for that purpose.—, • number of transports in the monthof March, Foie been in the service qty of observations on the Noble Lord (Led w ith expressio 3 g a M.- aapers moved for; but ght it would be unpro. that his Majesty's pre. ask Russia to commu te Treaty she had ben ie Emperor of Russia ledged his honour that e could not reasonahly lge. At the same too breath, that we denied T guarantee between-us mediation, we solicited , a nd thought that, in luite sufficient. If the A sendan army to the ecause no army, which the smallest chance of fortur.ate campaigu.—: er spoken of as possible Ls 30,000 British troop, rce, collected at Stral. • little effect an the can. :vented the defeat of the the battle had eventar. at the French had km have been too small to tunense army on its ra it this force could have semy, for they were os ier and the Vistula. ivould not be merely as my of Great Britain. — risked, unless there was most important advan. :he late Ministers were consideration, that the were not likely to pro- Ind that there was only ope. Tothat one chance on. That chance was, ht to move, and that if down to the Lower Elbe, 'the French army, in that a -fair chance of its deb. Acurred, the citcumstaa hich the late Ministess cooperate with a miri• ie Austrians, every thins terely combined with tr army would ran- sas ce they couldhave of al ;ft. It appeared from 2A ny had a superiority ova sty thousand men; and nv different a manner the d, it could not be sup at we could. have sow is disproportion in num it the Russians had ever ough their soldiers falai It was a military l acy r to keep the peepte 42 y favourable =coots o f t the fact was, that is the ey claimed as a victory) • lam of eighty pieces 4id rimy would have been ut nese of the road' bad roc :Tench army from ccinnag hoped the House vroul rters which,froo the situ tin his cnvn Fersonal knou never had elf Chance el i• or even in the , battle' so bravely. Tbs- Desch They remained —for ten ▪ and inunediateli. after the rnagazinesat Mist laments, whore they elec. L of several strong :AM . N i j i I 7.