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pi 7ivr; : .I(. l WWW"'" 7 wm. c • PARLIAMinffIAVI EDING," irOm •=11.1.1. glib• Vlergit OF LOitU.'. • ARCh 15. IS ssbe ' pise hark.) On the motion of the Loan CHANCELLOR, the j: dgment /nett , moved in the case of " Lady Mary Crauferd tr. was adopted and conirmed. The House was next occupied with the cue of Robert Dowie Wright, carpenter, in the citadel of Leith, appellant, and James Douglas, of North Leith, barber, a pauper , respondent. It seas a case of assault, in which the Magistrates of Leith had found the appellant liable to pay the bill of the surgeon who attended the respondent, being iOi. 10s. and MI. lis. 3d. is the cuts of suit.... This case was folly heard and judgment deferred. The only other case proceeded in this morning was that of Foreman and another v. Southwood and others, in which Mr. HORN; and Mr. Straowax.r. were Counsel for the appellants, and Mr. Mierni and Mr. Turstovz for the res po ndents.—The fur ther hearing of this case was deferred until ',Monday. At half-past three o'clock the Lose Cnancsuass, the Bari of SITATTISWIT, and Viscount MILIFILLR appeared as his Majes t y' s Commissioners, and gave the Royal Assent to the Navy Five per Cents. Bill, and the Judges of Assize Commission MIL s Mr. BROGORR and others brought up from the Commons the Army Mutiny Bill, the Marine Mutiny Bill, the Indemnity Bill, and the Aliens and Denizens Regulation Bill. Read a first time. Mr. Jonasow, from the London Dock Company, presented an Account of the Receipts and Disbursements of that Com pany for the last year, and a Report of the completion of the Works.—Laid on the table. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY, pursuant to order, presented the Report of the Commissioners for inquiring into !the State of the Charitable Institutions connected with the Education of the Pone.—Laid on the table. The Duke of DEVONSHIRE presented Petitions, praying for agricultural relief, from the Owners and Occupiers of Land of the Hundred of Scarsdale, and several other Hundreds in the County of. Derby.—Read, and laid on the table. The Marquis of LA NSDOWN presented a Petition from the Lay Impropriators of Tithes of Listowel and eleven other Parishes in the south of Ireland, praying for the consideration of the Tithe system, and for a commutation of Tithes—Read, and laid on the table. ~•., .:. '11 1 77-77.",„ AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. Lord ERSKINE presented three Petitions from different places, praying relief from Agricultural Distress; one of them was from Witney, in Oxfordshire. The Noble Lord took this opportunity of making some observations on the general dis t.tsses of the country, which he attributed chiefly to excessive taxation ; because, while that taxation continued. It was impossi ble we could carry on an advantageous commerce with other countries. His Lordship next adverted to the Porn. Laws, and expressed a wish that the opinion of the twelve Judges might be taken. whether it might not be possible to put these laws in force in a manner different from the practice that now existed? for the Legislature that first in!roduced these laws could never have intended that parish relief should be extended to any ex cept those who were unable to work, from age and infirmity. The Petitions were ordered to lie on the table. ,ly of Parliament. It Might be objected , corps_ doe of tithes, that if it were adoped in Ireland, it might also be calleg for in England. But the state of things was so different in England, that there was • bot the shadow of necessity for such' a measure— (Hear). He trusted that his Mejesty's Ministers, or some other Noble Peer, would speedily bring the subject before Parliament. There were other points also which required consideration. He should not complain of the number of absentees, and had done everything in his power to mitigate the effects likely to be produced by his absence. In fact, the con sciousniss of being an absentee himself, only served to make him feel a deeper interest in the people of Ireland. In the unfort unate disturbances which pre vailed, he saw no se for delaying an investigation tiffear). And a more useful, grateful, and impera tive duty could not be thrown on their Lordships, than that of endeavouring to provide a remedy for the existing evils. He also considered it a great ad vantage, whatever might be the measures adopted, that they 'should be seconded by an individual of the vigour, wisdom, and experience, of the Noble Mar- . quis now at the head of the rash Government. It was time that Ireland should cease to be a source of na tional weakness, and should become one of national strength. He therefore entreated their Lordships, as they valued the safety of Ireland and the interests of the empire, immediately to investigate the state of that country. Let them look at the prayer of the Pe tition, and let them be assured that it spoke, not only the sense of the body by which it was signed, but the sentiments of all the loyal and intelligent people of Ireland—(Hear). The Noble Duke then moved that the Petition be read, which having been done, The Earl of LIVERPOOL felt convinced, that he only gave utterance to the sentiments of every Noble Peer in the House, when he expressed his regret that any circumstances should prevent the House from hearing the Noble Duke take a more frequent part in, its debates. He had never seen a question brought forward in a more manly, distinct, and able manner, than it had just been done by the Noble Duke. Th e, Petition was entitled to the most serious consideration,l from the respectability of the body from which it proceeded, and from the influence and property of the Noble Duke by whom it had been presented.— Whatever the inconveniences of absentees might be, and he did not deny that they were great, he had the satisfaction of knowing and believing that what the Noble Duke had so modestly stated was completely true. There was no landlord more liberal towards his tenants, and more eager to do everything in his power to mitigate their sufferings, than the Noble Duke; and he felt it due both to that distinguished individual himself and to the Public, that his conduct should be known. With respect to the subject of the Petition, though the assurance might again draw from a Noble Baron opposite (Lord Holland) an ob servation similar to that which he had already applied to the professions of his Majesty's Ministers, yet he should say, that it was a question which occupied the most serious attention of the Noble Marquis at the head of the Government of Ireland, and of the mem bers of Administration in this country. It was nem- . sary, however, that one or two prejudices should be removed. With respect to the present disturbances, he did not believe that Much of them, though some certainly did, belonged to the question of tithes.— Neither was it a question solely between the clergy and the community : for more than one-third of the tithes in Ireland was not in - the possession of the clergy, but in that of lay inipropriaters. He stated this to do away an injurious imputation which had been cast upon the clergy. He could not speak from ' his own experience of the manner in which tithes were levied in Ireland, but it would generally be found in England that the clergy were not the per sons most severe in the exercise of their rights. It was important that their Lordships should not sup pose that this great question had been overlooked.— It had been under consideration for many years, and even a Noble Duke who stood at the head of the Irish Government in 1806 and 1807, had avowed that he had not found any plan which completely met the object he had then in view. There was a difficulty which, however, he (the Earl of Liverpool) did not consider as insurmountable. It was this—that in any commutation of tithes, the advantage in profit was most likely to be on the side of the clergy. This to him was no objection, especially as the alteration proposed would have a tendency to produce tranquil lity in the country, and to avert the evils with which it was not only threatened, but overtaken. The Noble Duke had alluded to a very general notion, that it was impossible to enter into the question of tithes in Ireland without being called upon to do the same in England. He agreed with the Noble Duke in think ing that there was no shadow of necessity in the case ; and he should add, that he saw no reason whatever why persons who were most averse to enter into the question of tithes under all the circumstances of England, should not be disposed to enter into it un der all the circumstances of Ireland. Not to be able to . make it a general question was, in his opinion, no difficulty ; and whatever might be the result of the impression upon his mind and upon that of the Noble Marquis at the head of the Government of Ireland, as to the details of the measure, he should recommend it as an Irish question. The object • would be to do justice to all ; to the clergy, not as clergy alone, but as having a right in the property. He could not at present describe the measure more specifically, but he had no difficulty in stating that the subject was under the serious consideration of Government.— Should, however, after the whole question had been 'thoroughly investigated by his Majesty's Ministers, the impracticability of adopting an efficient remedy become apparent, he should feel it his duty at once to say so, that the question might not remain in a state of suspense. The Noble Duke had said that the present disturbances ought to be no impediment or ground of delay to inquiry. In this sentiment he entirely concurred--Wear, heat). On the other hand, however, Parliament ought not to be induced to take up any measure hastily, or without justice being done 'to all the great interests, and great they were, con cerned in the question. The Marquis of LANSDOWN had been entrusted - persons who , interfere with.the property of others, but, with en larged views and patriotic feelings, called upon it to interfere with their own. When these important mat ters should be settled, it would redound to the im mortal honour of the Corporation of Waterford, that they had been the first to come to their Lordships, to ask to be-allowed to sacrifice their own interests, in order to remove from their country that principle of evil and of distraction which had been its bane for ages ,No man could look at the situation of Ireland, without considering it unfortunate that such a sys tem of evils should continue to exist in that particu lar part of Europe where its existence was the greatest anomaly. Had the wisdom and vigilance of the Le gislature set about opposing , a bar to the progress of the Established Church, sowing seeds of difference' and discord, and giving them life and vigour, they could not have done it more effectually than by cre ating that anomaly, a Clergy professing the , Ite gion of the minority, and lay impropriators of tithes. But for those evils the Protestant Church of Ireland had not to answer. Although it might display faults which had the effect of abuses, without being in- , tended as such, it certainly exhibited noble examples' to all countries. In parts where the Protestant Mi nisters had no regular service to perform, they still felt that they had a ministry to discharge, one of in- dulgence and of charity ; and if they could not carry ' their faith into the cottage of the poor man, they car ried there kindness and instruction. Such men were an honour to all Churches. But let the merits of the Established Church or lay impropriators be what they might, the evil of a few individuals availing them selves of the severe forms of the law to levy their tithes, was sufficient to cow the seeds of distraction. The Nbble Earl opposite conceived that the tithes had not much effect on the present disturbances, but many instances had occurred in which those dis turbances had been proved to arise from the levying of tithes alone. The Noble Marquis then read the Resolutions of several Magistrates, in a county where the disturbances had not become general. They stated that they were of opinion, that the first appearances , of the disturbances at Kilmaine, had its origin in the valuation of the tithes by the Curate, who was the tithe farmer, and who valued them 75 per cent. over what the Rector hai himself offered in 1815. Seeing that a great change had taken place in the state of that property in all European countries, he trusted that their Lordships would not imagine that he in tended to recommend a similar alteratian. It had been attended under Revolutionary, as well as under Governments called Legitimate, with a character of spoliation which he should be sorry to see attached to any British measure. The principle on which he wished that Parliament shOuld act, was that of doing complete justice to all parties. While tithe property stood on the footing on which it now stood, it was not the conscientious Rector of a Parish, yielding to the calls of humanity, and contented to receive two thirds or one half of his tithes, who was the cause of disgust and irritation amongst the people, but it was the indifferent, or the absent Clergyman, who derived enormous profits from the present system. It was not now a proper time to speak of the nature of a remedy, but he would say this far, that instead of having ever formed an opinion that nothing could be done on the subject, the Noble Duke, who in 1806 and 1807 had been at the head of the Irish Govern ment, had adopted a particular plan, and he (the Marquis of Lansdown) was authorised to state, that up to this very moment the Noble Duke in question thought that his plan, or something of the kind, might be used to advantage. The substitution of land for tithes had already been propoeed several times, and the same objection to this measure did not exist in Ireland as in- England. Clergymen in the South of Ireland, having but a small number of parishioners to attend to, were looked up to chiefly as resident proprietors and resident Magistrates. He (the Marquis of Lansdown) had heard with satisfac tion the assurance given by the Noble Earl opposite, that both he and the Noble Marquis, to whose hands the Government cf Ireland was entrusted, had turned their attention to a plan to remove those evils. Ile had also heard with unmingled plea,ure, that the Noble Earl did not regard the oresent agitation which prevailed in Ireland as any bar to the consideration of such a measure. After such a declaration he (the Marquis of Landown) should abstain, and hoped others would do the same, from bringing the ques tion immediately before the notice of the House.— But Parliament would not do its duty if it' allowed a considerable time to pass without going into a tho rough investigation of the subject. The Earl of LIMERICK, after expressing his ad- miration of the able manner in which the Not'le Duke had brought the subject forward, contended that the disturbances in Ireland did not arise solely limn the levying of tithes, but from a variety of other causes, one of the principal of which was the abominable mode in which the system of excise on distillation, was carried on. It was carried on in a manlier to barbarize any country; by scattering the army about, seizing the unfortunate peasants, and teaching them acts of insubordination. Ile urged the necessity of inquiry, without compounding with the rebels, for he maintained that the present disorders in some in-; stances amounted to rebellion. Ile considered the system of tithes as a bounty for the growth of the Ro man Catholic Religion in Ireland. For when the peo ple were pressed and distrained on by the tithe pros= tors, they naturally associated their acts with their religion, and became fixed in their hostility to Om latter ; any alteration of the tithe system would be most beneficial to the Protestant faith in Ireland.— He, therefore, heartily concurred w i t h t h ose w h o wished for such an alteration. The Earl of BLESINTON maintained that •7 Presbyterians of the North of Ireland were as hos tile to the payment of tithes as the Catholics of the South. If they had not loaded their Lordships' table with their Petitions, yet he knew that they had just grounds for complaint, especially' with respect to the management of College Livings. The Petition was alien laid on tjte table.—Ad- 1 journed WI Montly. r * . - 110 VIN OP 1150 thsiNg, Snaffle was ommoned to the Mem* br he" Inl et , Assent gluon by Commission to cotta s. On ki d , annasmeed to Home that the Royal Assam sr certain Binh for which see the Report oldie Lards. 11 )IIN NEWPORT, on the part of his Hon. Friend, the for the County of Mayo (Mr. Dominick Browne), p et . motion on the State of Ireland, from the 17th to th e April ',wig KECK promoted • Petition boa certain Oe ce . piers of Land in Leicestershire, complaining of Aleficidn al i Distress, and praying for suck a redurtion of libation as w ee gi afford relief—The Petition was brought up and laid on *stabs, Mr. HORMOUSE said he was Authorised by his Hun. C A L league to postpone the motion for an Address to the Criswi t is remit the putdshment of Mr. Hunt, to Wednesday tkl u7tVire. He (Mr. Hobbouse) bad some hope that, after what had ha te from the lion. Member for Yorkshire bet night, the maim might be rendered unnesessary. - Dr. PHI LLI MORE gave notice that be should, in the empe , of the Session, move the repeal of the Marriage Am Sir WILLI AM CURTIS moved that the Bill for remark" the London iftidge . Water-works be read a second tim e ,n day next.--Orderod. Mr. BUTTERWORTH presented a Petition front a c o s ranee of the Proprietors of the London-bridge W a t tir _ work . ; pray's'', to be beard by Counsel against the Bill then ha m . the Haan. _ - - _ _ - far. Wi►RRR presented a Petition from certain inh~h a y e of the County of Somerset, expressing their satisfaction thin BM was in progress through the House, for the more effectual recovery of Small Debts, and praying that it may pass into a law. —The Petition was brought up, and laid on the table. Wins:um/IED Fomatig WOOLLEN CLOTH. On Mr. WA LLACE'vsnoving that the House resolve iv.V Into a C.ammlttee of the whole House on Monday next, fat the purpose of couside.ring the Navigation Acts. Mr. BUM RT Wri/ItTLEY said that a report lad gnat abroad, which, if true, would materially affect his Constnt. eats in Yorkshire, engaged in the manufacturing of woolir, cloth, namely, that foreign woollen cloth was allowed to I,e brought lam this market, and sold under the duty. tie thought it was only I nteaded to be warehoused in this country and expor t ed duty free ; he wished to know if such was the fact? Or. WALLACE said he was anxious to correct such a star. mem. It was intended that foreign woollen cloth should be lowed to be imported, and then exported duty free.—The mo tion was granted. - e. t • ' :* a .. . . ... 0 A ' • . • . Ole tilcZPublit, if he a":,lr, , t he,.. o bj es e".(Heer, A itat). Ifearweer apogee with WPmidewlmilar to lhat c reseekaby *NNW* of legate to the ,The Sri wceed in removing every ground of cowls . lint . — remained silent. All cirmanigusicesoombined to tom. gt ,,, to 0 allitt ain . a e ge nti m re en ly t d m 'buimportinks, sod a ct M e lil l a/ll ' ghoul Zs* interest mind their Lordships' isitamidlate*.attention to the eirJOI 7S, t: s p owa re te v nv e e n pr t rom v retty e eaxat:haes9hhd should u a dl b d u lte lt renadified ilks nent kr- of the clergy..abould be fairly considered, and all subject ; Abe manner in which- hiraloble Friend bad P. Reid," sides might safely rely on the wisdom of both Hawses brought it forward, and the fact that the Petition rah of I A a p2ru2ment. It might be objected to COMMUta- came from persons who did not desire the House to sr. LE _ . _ . . .__.. ....!.... .... ..t..... .., T ILCUESTER JAIL. - - _ earl DARNLEY said he had to call the attention of their Lordships to a subject that had been recently discussed is the other House of Parliament, and which it wail impossible for that House to pass over without some notice. He alluded to census disgreneful abuses that had been practised in lichester Aril. These abuses had come to light in consequence of the complaint of Mr. Hunt, who had been confined there, and who had severely suffered coder. them; and their existence had been fully proved by the Cool.nission appointed to examine into them. Whatever might be the demerits of that person in other re spects, the Public, in this instance, were highly indebted to him jor having been instrumental in bringing them to light—(Hear s hear). And he trusted that their Lordships would feel that this was a subject on which they were bound to enter into an in vestigation. Ile could not for a moment bring himself to think that the members of the Government were in any way instru mental in inflicting on that individual the hardships of which he complained ; but at the same time they should take care that fuch hardships, after being once made known, should not be suffered to continue. If such were the case, a clamour might at any time be raised, highly injurious to the Government, by indi viduals whom the Public might conceive to be suffering under unjust persecution; and by that means many characters, ob noxious in other respects, might acquire an undue share of po pularity and power. He concluded by moving that the Report of the Commissioners appointed to inquire into the stale of IL chestet Jail be laid before the House. The Marquis of L A NSDOWN said, that as the Secretary of State for the Home Department had not now a seat in that House, be wished to put a question connected with the present motion to the Noble Earl opposite, because he wished for some information on the subject. Some years ago the attention of Ministers was directed to a Bill intended to be brought in for the better regulation of prisons ; he hoped this subject had not escaped their attention, and particularly that of the Right lion. Gentleman who was now at the head of the Home Department. Ile was sure that their Lordships would feel that abuses must always exit in jails unless strict measures were established for the regulation of them. He wished to be informed by the Noble Earl whether this Bill was to be introduced ? The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that the subject adverted to did at this moment occupy the attention of his Right lion. Friend ( Mr. Peel), and would be shortly laid before Parliament. He Was not then able to say what were the precise regulations in tended to be adopted, but the subject was under consideration. Lord li OL LA NI) said, the answer now given to the question of his Noble Friend was precisely the same which had been given on all similar occasions. The Ministers were constantly occupied with the consideration of every subject brought before Parliament ; and yet, with all this consideration, nothing was ever produced.—Lord Darnley's motion was then agreed to. TITHES IN IRELAND. The Duke of DEVONSHIRE held a Petition from the Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the city of Waterford, praying their Lordships to take the state of Ireland and the system of tithes into their most serious consideration. The Petitioners possessed the tithes of thirteen parishes, and recommended a commutation, or any other means which could render them less burdensome to the people. He was glad to have been charged with presenting such a Petition, as he entirely concurred in its object, and he felt h. moored in delivering the sentiments of so distin guished a body. He was also glad that an opporta nity had occurred to him, who, from circumstances, never mingled in debate, of expressing how deeply and how sincerely he was interested, both as a Peer of Parliament and as a proprietor of land, in what ever related to the people of Ireland—(Hear). It might be concluded, from the events which bad taken place iu that country, that there was something de fective and wrong in the system by which she had been hitherto governed. Whether this opinion were well or ill founded, it was important that their Lord ships should enter into an inquiry on that subject. It was in the power of Parliament to do much for Ire land, and they owed it to the country at large, and to the deluded people in particular, to adopt the means best calculated to remove every cause of corn plaint—(Hear). It was not for him to say what should be the nature of those measures; but none could be ignorant of the vexatious manner in which the tithes were levied in the south of Ireland. The means employed were, he should repeat, severe and vexatious ; at the same time it might be true, that the tithes could not be levied by any other, but this only proved the necessity of altering the whole system, a step which, he was convinced, would equally relieve both the clergy and the people. The Petitioners stated, that they were the owners of the tithes of thir tee . parishes, and that they were willing to give up a share of their property to remove the differences and evils which prevailed. He (t)te Duke of Devon shire) was proprietor of the tithes of twenty parishes, and would willingly make large sacrifices to further, LIGHT HOUSES. Mr. HUMS moved for Returns of the total anima ni Light House Dues, distinguishing the sums paid in Engl An d, land, and Scotland, along with the rates of chars..., as4l p er centage • also the appropriation of the surplus revenue : r i sing from th ese dues. He also moved for Returns of the number of Light Houses and Floating Lights in the United Kingdom, tinguishing those which were erected by Acts of Parliament from those.erected by individuals. Ile said that the !louse must be aware that a large suns was raised on the shipping •• defray the expenses of Light Houses; besides, that certain IN dividuals held some as private property, and derived consider able emoluments from them. He thought there could be no difficulty In producing these papers. Sir ISAAC COFFIN said, he was glad that such a nlcrim was made. It was necessary that attention should be paid to Light Houses.. The House would scarcely believe the injury that foreigners sustained in the Channel; many hundred thou aids of them were drowned, and all vessels coming from the biltic avoided the Channel when possible. Mr. WALLACE said, that the Foreign Trade Committee were already engaged in a similar investigation. AU the Pa2ers moved for were now before them, and they would shortly repurt to the Howe on the subject-. Mr. MONEY said, it appeared to him that there was no dif. ficulty in producing the Account moved for, but he thouzl:t a most unjust reflection had been cast on that Institution. I: was one from which the navy and commercial world drat,' great advantage. When the Returns were laid bet,lL .1:e House, he would move that they be reftrred to the Trade-Committee. Mr. Wau.act and Mr. Mcwav explained. Sir JOSEPH YORKE observed, that so great a number IS the gallant Officer (Sir I. Coffin) had stated, were nut dro.v:ltki sine, the creation of the work I. COFFIN admitted that he had somewhat inc:csd the number!—(A laugh). Mr. T. ELLIS said, that the ships trading from Ireland England paid as much duty as foreign ships. It was a ; that was calculated to excite astonishment, Irish twenty years'after the Union, were c.bli i :ed to pay a rate to foreign ships, and six times the does -ha: were imposed a English vessels. After a few words from Sir M. «': Runts., the motion sr.:s agreed to. FOREIGN TALLOW. Mr. Cl.; R WEN presented a Petition from the Tallow Chand lers of London, praying for protection against the illicit manner in which foreign tallow was imported.—Ordered to hr printed. The Hon. Member presented another Petition front :he Orr.- en and Proprietors of Ships employed in the South Sea Fish The Petitioners stated that their business was entirely dech..ing, and the prices of whale cal so considerably reduced that they had no profit on their capital, in consequence of the quantities cf foreign tallow imported, on which they prayed the imposition ci higher duties.—Ordered to be printed. The Hon. Member then said, that it was probable his :11 , Y.i.12 for that evening, respecting the Tax upon Tallow, wouhi on very late, if at ail; and he therefore took that opportunity of stating, that if be found it impossible to bring it on, he would call the attention of the House to the su bj ect on WetLies day next. He begged to state that he should leave out of his view of the question everything connected with the Butter and Cheese Trade, though that had very material reference to the Agricultural Distress. His object in not touching upon it Wes, that some Hon. Member connected with Ireland might take up the subject. MALT DUTY. Mr. LUSH INGTON moved the Order of the Day for going into a Committee on the Malt Duty Repeal Bill. On the motion that the Speaker do leave the Chair, Mr. GIPPS said he regretted chat Ministers had not, in their desire to relieve the distress of the Agriculturists, consulted these who were competent to inform them of the best mode of carry ing their good wishes into effect The repeal of the Tax upon Salt would, he thought, afford real relief. Mr. CAIN ElLfsaid, that he had last night opposed the progress of the Bill until a clause should be added allowing a drawback on all Malt then on hand. He had since had a con ' ference with the Right Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of eat Exchequer), who had satisfied him that no such general clause could be added ; but the Bight Hon. Gentleman had assured him, in the presence of other Gentlemen, that care would taken fur remitting the repealed duty on all Malt in trandtu.— With that understanding, he bad no objection to the House go:;:s into a Committee on the Bill. Sir JOSEPH YORKE said, that he was one of those per sons who bad given up a portion of his income for the benrat the landed Gentlemen, and he was not sorry for it, if apts.. ture would derive any advantage from it. But however glad he would be of giving relief to agriculture, he wits afraid they would derive hut little front the repealtf that tax. Ile did vet sec what benefit the reduction of that tax cooferred on any one, except brewers and matesters. That was the re j oizing of the Calvens and the Whitbreads !—(.l laugh)—and of :lie whole race of brewers ! they, and nut the agricniturists, !tad cats' to rejoice. Ile should be glad 'to know when the reduction et 3. fractional part of a penny on the pot of porter would take plote? He should be happy to be informed by the Representatives ei Barleycorn—(A laugh)—when that benefit would Accrue? Mr. CA LVERT begged permission to make one Oservations in reference to what had fallen from the gallant Admiral. The gallant Admiral asked what benefit the reduction of that tax gave any but brewers, and when the halfpenny a pot would be taken off beer. It would be seen by any one who would take the ttu.:- [ ble to calculate it, that a halfpenny a pot would be equal to a reduction of ills. a quarter in the duty. The reduction, how ever, was only tis. 61 and he would ask, how could the brew: •s give up Os. for 6s. tid.? If, oat of 3d. for the pot, Governtaiort bad led. and the victualler lid. the brewer was left only How then couldite reduce a halfpenny per put fee a remission et 6s. tid. only of the duty ? General GASCOYNE said, that the reli:f given by the re peal of that tax to agriculture was so trilling, that a more impo litic or unnecessary measure could not be passed. After a few words from Colonel Woos), Mr. Catt.vaav, Sets joint ()mow, and Mr. C. Smarm, the motion was agreed to. The house then resolved itself into a Committee o n the Hilt, l and a shot t otanvetsatlen4 easuott on a few of the depts. Thy TI , I 1 l I. I ; F I‘.