Star. — London, England, 1831-07-21 00:00:00

t 4 i ; i' , . . , t i t s ,• 1 .: , ,1 ~, ,t. ~, 1i ~ l• r ' 4 ,1 i f 1 1 II! ii• IP • tit 4. 1 0 • . ). cl 1 . 3 . 1 V ~. i I ! i t ii IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—Juae 20. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presided on the woolsack for the Lord Chancellor. M. BERNAL. Lord EBRINOTON, Mr. C. DUN ?AS, anti others from the Commons, brought up the bill to prohibit the growth of tobacco in Ireland t also the Mint s..laries redaction bill, and several private bills, which were itsd the first time. After the other hills on the table had been forwarded a stage. the house adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER informed the house that the several par ties who had petitioned the house, complaining of undue elections for the cite of Carlisle. the borough of Stamford, and the county of Wexford, hod not entered into the neces sary recognizance. The orders for taking the said petitions into consideration were discharged. Mr. TYRRELL presented two petition% from corn. growers in Suffolk, against the use of molasses in breweries and distilleries. Mr. W. WHIT t!ORE presented a petition from Cu:- cutta, praying the opening the trade with China ; and siNri -Ito petitions front Glasgow and Hull. Ordered to be referred to the East India Committee. Lord ANDEVILLE presented a petition from Porta. down. against any grant to Maynooth College. Mr. BLA MIRE presented a petition from Cock( rmouth, praying to be taken out of the Schedule B. Lord 3IAIT LA ND presented a petition from Had. dington against the use of molasses in breweries anti Sir RICH A RD lIUSGRAVE presented a petition from Trinity Parish, Waterford, against any grant to the Kildare. street Society. Sir M. . RIDLEY presented, a petition from the Lite rary, Scientific, and Mechanics' Institution, Newcastle, for the repeal of the 'faxes on Knowledge. Mr. THROG3IORTON prese.tted a petition from New. bury, praying that property might be made the qualification for voting under the Reform Bill. Mr. TREVOR presented a petition from the freemen of Newcastle, praying that the Reform Bill might not tifprive them of their rights and privileges. Sir ROBERT BATEtsON presented a petition from the Synod of Ulster, praying that letters on charitable subjects might be permitted to pass through the post-office free of postage. Lord ALTHORP said, the only ground on which the privilege of sending letters postage free was discontinued, was that it was discovered to be illegal. If it was thought de sirable that it should be renewed, it could only be done by Act of Parliament. Mr. BROW NLOW presented a petition from Belfast for a repeal of the Legislative Union. '.lre RUTHVEN said he was sorry to have to say that the question of Repeal of the Uniou was making great progress in Ireland ; the feeling on the subject was very strong. Mr. HEA TH COTE presented a petition from the millers of Boston against the Importation of Foreign Flour, and moved for a retuin of all 28 gun-frigates and 10 gun -brigs in the British Navy. Mr. W LKS presented a petition from Mr. Walter Hand cock, against any increased tolls on steam-carriages. Mr. Alderman THOMPSON presented a petition from the hackney-coach proprietors of London against stage coaches plying in London. Lord ALTHORP said, it was the opinion of the Com mittee who sat on the subject, that the best method of improving the hackney-coaches was by free competition, and that recommendation should form the basis of the bill he meant to bring in, but lie should propose to make the alteration gradual. Lord A LTHO RP gave notice, that in consequence of tltc length of time the Committee on the reform bill was likely to occupy, it was his intention to move, ro.morrow, that the reform Bill Committee should take precedence of all other public business. Mr. WYNN said, the house should come to an under standing whether all other public business was to stand still to give way to the reform bill. The game laws were of great importance, and the season for their operation was approaching. Mr. BRISCOE thought the reform bill ought to take pre cedence of every other—at least, till it bad passed the Com mittee. He had heard from members at both sides that it was en all-absorbing question. Colonel EVANS postponed his motion for a return of the proceedings in the ease of Dade v. Baring to to morrow. Mr. F. B. BARING said, he was not aware of the mo tion being made till he came to town this day. Col. EVANS said, be had no wish to take the hon. gent. by surprise. He saw his relatives in the house, and did not know that the honourable gentleman was not in town when he gave the notice. If the hon. gentleman would name the day he preferred it being brought forward he would conform to it. Mr. F. B. BARING said, the sooner the better. Col. EVANS fixed to-morrow. OATHS IN PAILIAMINT. Mr. C. W. WYNN moved the third reading of the oaths taken before the Lord Steward bill. Sir R. INGLIS objected to the bill. He thought there was no sufficient reason for departing front the usage esta blished for upwards of a century. Mr. C. W. WYNN thought it was not decent to take oaths before the Lord Steward, and in a few minutes after take the very same oaths at the table of the house. Mr. G. BA NKES thought, if there was any serious ob jection to taking two sets of oaths, it was the second set that ought to be abolished. Sir CHARLES FORBES thought it was badly worth while to legislate on the subject, considering for how short a time the Act was to be in force, for he really believed that the next Parliament • would abolish all Oaths.-- (A laugh.) The House then divided— . . Ayes .. ... 78 Noes .Majority for the third reeding .... 62 Tue bill.waa read a third time and passed. arroum. The house resolved itself into a committee on the Refeens bill, Mr. BCRNAL in the Chair. ThcCUAIRMAN.—The question is, that the borough of (stela Bedwin stand part of sehedule A. Mr. G. BA :SIKES aid in a future stage of the bill ho• would move that Great Bedwin be inserted in another 'dm duls for the purpose of giving it a share in the represented* conjointly with another borough . Sir C. WETHERELL said the schedules were mai out in ignorance.. It would bare taken a full year to mdro out complete. schedule& for the new constitution. Whet ' the ;cheetah came to he revised by and bye, he should not be surprised to. find Bedwin restored to its rights. (Hear.) He thought the borough of Bedwin was as well entitled le be placed io schedule $ aeany borough in it. (Hear, hear.) Though the House had decided that they would not : pre., reed op -the census of 181, yet It might in parelcular.cases; be necessary to. revise, the census. of 1821. (Hear hear.), The learned hart. went on at great !length to complal of so. prated interruptioes from friends••he th e . enemy's ee enemies in die friende7eantp: .Hesupposed that they - glued all honourable _weathers there must be like the boo, noontide members for London, bound to support the bill, the whole bill, and nothing but the bill ; that they should come to.that House batalsuffied and tongue-tied. But he would tall the noble lank opposite that a re-action had taken place,-thet the.people. wen getting away front the flith of ;he favouttitophrase of.tbc bill. the whole bill, .and nothing but slse 141-41. at his hilt was losing in public onintoo, merely because they were carrying it through by force, and would not listen to any wridetsee. He Mt snared that be. fore thettiantination of the present session the bill would go to its 'ratite clement. . • . After few.obserrations from PRA ED and Lord J. ItHOSELL' the question was put from be Chair, that the Borough of Great Bedwin be resained.'s.', schedule A, winch wimscanied in the affirmative without a division. nom:most or siessautow. Inn( J, It)JIiSELL moved that the borough of Beeral. moo be. retained ar past of schedule A. His lordship made a few o*rwitioos, in the course of which he stated, that there teas only age resident in the borough who was rated at 101: and asst it wee some years shice it had been known that a ewer hail.reslded in the borough ; be therefore moved thet it be placed ;schedule A. Mt C. ViTillaitELl•dionght that his lordship, ,when he rose to speak olt the boroughs, should state what sort of h ot a u ghs thy wet—whether or not they held their rights by burg: 2 4;ssta/ . • Sir . ;L said 44 whenever's/1y Hia. Ranger as Ida dm House rose' coley any thing, that war,' reasacke suede that it was from interested motives, fit sore w ean wpss 10#tisoppen to be identified. with them in po., lilies! sendvarms ; or They were charged' with haloes op t, .. --- position. Now, after the divisions that had already taken place, on the general principle, regarding the census of 1821, he thought it would be much better to waive dis cussion on the individual boroughs. He would not advert at all to Increase or decrease of boroughs between that period and 1831 ' • but, according tq the rule laid down by the noble lord, where a town should be found to possess too few vo•ers, that the frar.chise should be extended to a neigh. booing parish, and he thonght that Beeraliton should have the benefit of this provision, and be protected ; because that, although there was so small a constituency in the borough, the parish of Bereharis, of which it fonned a part, was populous, and on that account he sheuld protest against its being placed in Schedule A. Lord J. RUSSELL made a few observations. Lord MILTON said that Beeralston was not, if he might be allowed the expression, the metropolis of &re basis ; in that respect it was differently situated from some other boroughs, such as Buckingham and Reigate, and he did not think it could come within the line for protection. ' Sir R. PEEL replied that Tams orth, Horsham, end Caine were similarly situated, as neither of them were the metropolis of the parish in which they stood. After explanatiohe and observations from Lord Milton,, Sir R. Peel, Mr. Croker. Sir James Scatlett, and Mr. Pried, the motion was put how the chair, and carried with. out a division. BOROUGH O• BISHOP'S CASTLE. Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved that the borough of Bishop's Castle be placed in schedule A. Mr. KNIGHT rose to oppose the motion of the Noble Lord. He sled that Bishop's Castle was not a burgage tenure, but had been a borough ever since the time of Queen Elizabeth, and there was not the slightest indication that it was a decaying borough. In 1821, the population was between 1,800 and 1,000, and in 1031, it exceeded 2,000. It had been his intention to take the sense of the house on this question, but after the division that had taken place on the previous night on the census, he would not, as the de. vision had then limn given on a general principle. The noble lord bad, in his introduction, stated that the great object of his measure was to destroy nomination boroughs. Now, Bishop's Castle was no nomination borough; and if any one doubted his assertion, he would demand investigation, which he had a right in justice to do. He would enter his protest as an humble individual against its being disfranchised.— The hon. member proceeded to state at some length the na ture of the constituency ; and said that at a future stage of the bill he would move fur leave that it be coupled to sotne other borough. Lord J. RUSSELL, in explanation, said, that although it was not directly a nomination borough of an individual, it was a fact well-known that it was under the direct 'nth'. nice of property ; and it was a fact equally well-known that the only time that it had ever returned a Whig Member had been by means of bribery. Mr. ROGERS did not think that his lordship was war. ranted in making such assertions, but admitting that the charges were true, as the right of the burgesses descended from father to son, it would be a hard ease that the innocent should suffer for the guilty. Sir J. BRYDGES spoke in general terms of the whole measure being oneof spoliation. He said the noble lord had promised to pay every attention to whatever errors might be pointed out to him in the committee, but instead of keeping his promise, he had overruled them whit all his delegated majory. (A laugh.) Yes, he would say delegated majority, backed by the delusion of the people. (A laugh.) It might be a good subject fur laughter to those hon. gents. but it would be much better argument if they would Armand reply to him. (Hear, hear, from the opposition.) Several hon. gentlemen had said, that although they approved of the general prin ciple of the bill, they would oppose particular details of it, and he was exceedingly disappointed on that account at the fate of the question relating to Appleby. Several highly talented members had lost their seats in that house this les. sion because they wouid not promise to support the bill, the whole bill, and nothing but the bill; and now the bill they were to support was not the bill as it stood in the original, but the bill materially altered ; and yet they were then to obey the dictates of the deluded people. (Oh, oh.) In the present dilemma of ministers, he thought the best thing they could do was to withdraw ' the Lill. (Laughter.) Be would wait till the hon. gentlemen had enjoyed their laugh, but it was the first time he had spoken on the question, and he had a right to be heard. (Hear, hear, from the Oppo sition,) He hoped that ministers would withdraw the bill, (laughter) and he was sure that in doing so they would confer a great obligation on many of the hon. gentlemen who had pledged themselves to support it. (A laugh.) He had not hopes of effecting any good by dividing the house after the fate of the borough of Appleby.; but he considered it proper to express his sentiments. The bill was a revolu tionary measure, and a measure of spoliation ; and it was right that the people out of doors should know its mis chievous tendency. A re.action had already taken place out of doors; he was convinced that the bill would not pass this session, and he hoped that it would never pats at all. Mr. KNIGHT said that the only argument with which those gentlemen on his side of the House were met by the opposite benches, was the language of vituperation. He wondered what right the noble lord had to use such lan guage which was libelling the whole constituency. He (Mr. Knight) would now, as he bad stated at the com mencement, demand an investigation into the facts. He would ask the noble lord if he meant to make bribery any portion of the plea for disfranchising Bishop's Castle ; if so, he ought to suffer proof to be adduced; if he did not mean to snake It on that ground, he had no right to have asserted what he had done. He could not understand on what prin. ciple the noble lord meant to take his stand. If he was met on the score of population, be then resented to nomini. lion • if he was met on nomination, he betook himself to bribery. (Hear, hear, from Opposition.) Lord J. RUSSELL alluded to the warmth of the Hon Member. His Lordship said that he always laid down population as his text, but on account of the Honourable Member having given the borough so high a recommenda tion, his Lordship had thought it necessary to add the statement of facts that he had made, that the Committee might not remain under an erroneous impression regarding the borough. He bad merely done so to put the house upon its guard. The Honourable Member had talked of admitting proof, but he must have known very well that any plan of reform which required such proof as he spoke of, would have been of no avail. It would have been like a suit of Chancery, there would have been hearings, and orders, and delays of ten or twelve years, and in the meantime the substance of the nation would have been waisted in the came manner as the substance of the unfortunate suitors in Chancery, by those who were improperly dispossessing them of their property. Whenever a Gentleman said that he would not divide the holies, his Lordship would never disturb him In making his funeral oration, and he would not incur reproof for replying. Mr. GOULBURN thought that the charge of bellies, was unwarrantably brought forward , as the eked= to Which it was applied bad been discussed before that House; sad although the member had been unseated, it had not been for bribery that he had lost his seat. R. Sir BUGDEN said that the noble lord knew nodilug about the COurt of Chancery. He had taunted bon: gentle. men with their funeral orations : presuming on , he was insulting the bon. members of the house. ( .) y The noble lord was even now laughing .—( A single voice from the Opposition, " Hear,"—load laughter.) The re. mark which be made about the Court of Chancery was the most absurd that he had ever heard in his life; that Court was the guardian of the right of property, and the substance of suitors, amounting to several millions, was preserved to than by its authority. His lordship spoke without knowing anything of what he said.—(Order, order.) The greater part of the autelioradons in the bill had been suggested by the opposition. He trusted, therefore, the noble lord would speak with more modesty, and not arrogate to his aide of the house the exclusive desire of benefitting the nation. If the noble lord did not lower his tone, he (Sir E. S.) must, deprive hint of the benefit, an humble one certainly / . of his advice.end suggestion. (Hear.) Lord ALTHORP said Honourable Members had been piqued on no reasonable ground. The leaned Member was Offended at the Noble Lord's allusion to the Court of Chan eery. But really such allusion was customary in that house, whenever delay was the subject of discuisloo.-.IA laugh.) He hoped moderation and good humour would be the order of the day. The noble lord had not been guilty deka& Of either.—(llBl l l•_) Mr. ROBINSON asked whether bin. members were to sit silent when they were accused of being a delegated majority? The public would. be disappointed at the technical and quibbling objections raised foe purposes o(delay. (No.) The learned member foe Botoughbridge might say no ! but be could tell him that he went over to soften the prin. alpha and detail already decided, that he (Mr. emit .net listen to. him with patience. (Hear, and a laugh.) Mambas were taunted with sappating the bill with its pre* lint alterations, having been sot to support the bill, the , lebote'Bill, end nothing but the Bill. Bet the people mane by *A aspresion a reiorm coomessurate Inman, in lib.. rality j end in !IWO with the taessuge PtOPINd by rade. . J . • . ..~ y s ',. ten.--(Hear.) He trusted they would proceed in a spirit of , moderation and fairness, or the people would accuse them of wasting time. Sir. C. WETHERELL denied that he had been guilty of that repetition—a(Oh and bear) of which be was accused by the Member for Worcester ' the schoolmaster of Worms tera—(A laugh.) A learned Lord bad spoken about the schoolmaster being abroad—from whence he came, or was to come, he (Sir C. W.) was not at the time aware but 10l hi came forth from the city of Worcester. (A laugh.)* If some of the Noble Louis opposite, the leaders of the House, had given him a hint about his prolonging the debate, he might have submitted to it. But for the Member for Worcester to play the schoolmaster, to have the. pre tensions of calling him (Sir C. W.) to account, (hear, and a laugh), he, whom even a reformed parliament would not dignify with the scholastic dignity, was too much to put up with. But the schoolmaster must look to himself. He had' attempted to explain the cry of the " whole Bill, and nothing but the Bill," and had only proved it to be a sense less cry. (Hear.) He could not be the sehoolmastet meant by the learned lord. He must be an impostor, a sham schoolmaster. (A laugh.) Sir J. BItYDOES explained. He had said nothing relevant to the subject under discussion. The CHAIRMAN then put the question—" that Bishop's Castle form part of Schedule A," which was agreed to without a division. On the question that Blechingly tam part of the Schedule, Sir . C. WETHERELL said this was a burgers tem:re borough. Its franchise was on a principle entirely distinct from that of the freeman's franchise, the borough scot and lot, and other franchises which sent the members of that house. He understood the bill to mean the disfranchisement of decayed places. Now the term decay could not apply to burgage tenure boroughs. They were now what they were centuries ago, at the time of their creation. The same opinion, he would observe, had been expressed by Mr. Can ning. They were not created on the principle of population, or of popular representation. The power of nomination was always meant to reside in' the lord of the borough. His te nants had the elective franchise, and he had power to extend it ad fibetess. This power was given him for the protection of the landed and aristocratic interest. Decay was not ap plicable to the burgagc borough tenures. On what grounds, then, was Bleiddrigley to be disfranchised ? (Hear.) Lard ALTHORP ars not quite satisfied that the bur. gage tenure boroughs were originally created on the princi ple stated. But the question was, whether the boroughs were inconsiderable. He denied that they were advantageous to the aristocratic and landed interest. They merely increased the power of certain individuals of that class. The landed interest, numerous and affluent, would enjoy an influence among; the new constituency, an influence fair and salutary, and emanating from the lady generally. Would not the maintenance of these boroughs be dangerous to the aristo cracy, when the public feeling was so much directed against all nomination places ? But with respect to the burgage tenure boroughs, the bill did not effect restoration. When he spoke of the bill as being the restoration of the constitu tion, he did not look to the details, but to the whole of that constitution. The original object of the constitution, was the general and free representation of the people. And therefore did he say, that though it might destroy some boroughs, now in the same state as heretofore, still it was a restoration of the constitution. (Cheers.) Sir R. PEEL must enter his protest against some of the principles of the noble lord. The object of the constitu tion was the true representation of the people. But the word " people," did not mean what it meant in the bill ; it did not mean the whole of the people, but great corporate Wks, great classes of society. He denied that the present system would give a freer, fuller, or fairer representation._ The present variance of franchise, while it excluded no class, however humble, allowed to property and education a legi timate preponderance. Public feeling had certainly been dhected fur the last six months against the nomination bo roughs; but it originated from the particular circumstances under which the bill bad been introduced. With respect to the burgage tenure boroughs, ministers had raised the public clamour on false grounds, for they were not decayed boroughs, and they were free from usurpation. He denied that the nomination boroughs promoted individual interests. (Olt !) They promoted the interest of the classes to white certain individuals belonged. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the opinions which the right hon. baronet described as faliadous, lad met with the universal approbation of the people. T he burgage te nants were originally an independent class, and had been subsequently bought up by individuals. (Hear.) He de. nied that the representation was originally meant to be can. fined to certain classes and interests • it was Intended *r the community at large. It was absurd to say a burgage tenure borough was for the advantage of the aristoaisey,wheo on the bankruptcy of its aristocratic lord, It might moo into the hands of a person of a contrary intones. Were these nomination boroughs to be maintained, who the Lab. lie expected the representation to be fair and fuR? Tie right hon. baronet seemed to think the grievances which hod given rise to the late demonstration of public feeling, we. fictitious. But if such was the case, would such an extras. dinary unanimity have pervaded the nation? (Hear.) The people of England had the good sense to see the measure was one of great difficulty. They meant by the bill, the whole bill, and nothing but the bill, that they adopted the bill, and thought the whole of it necessary, and would not have any different measure. The supporters of the measure did not call it a restoration of the Constitution as It existed at any particular time; but it was a recurrence to the great principles of the Constitution. This was what could not be objected to by those who were reformers all their lives, at bent since last March. (Hear.) Sir ROBERT PEEL said he was not a reformer all his life, nor even since last March. He went out of office to prevent the agitation of the question, thereby giving the best proof that he was not a reformer. Be opposed the bill on principle, and should continue to oppose it. He felt that she measure was much mete extensive than the people called 61.1 . 8nd, be was confident, much more extensive than Mr. =ans had contemplated bringing forward when in op. Mr. BARING. said he was a reformer all his life—not since last Mirch..end had voted for the resolutions of relent at various times brought forward in that House —he had NO notion that any measure of reform could be brought (awed by the present ministers that he should not fully agree in.— It was impossible to suppose that such a body could I have brought forward such an alteration—be might say subversion of the constitution. The Attorne -General and the Chancellor of the Exchequer dist • argued cons th ia that if they did not restore the old 11111 would make a better. They would take thik deem in the lottery of amstitutlons, in the expectation at draw. log a prise. His Majesty bad recommended kali Men the throne, that they should carefully attend Te s t principles of the constitution. The constitution now • goa. posed to be given to the country never had been the son ti. neon of the country, and he defied any one to show Mask history the (*.existence of such a house of repreouttadive 'tithe monarchy. The present Ministers might be the best Min stitution.makers in the world, but they had produced aamodis. tion such as never before existed in this or any other wassy. His hon. friend the member forNorvich had told his emu& tutus the peers nominated one half the members of that lentil Taking this statement to be correct, the Government had hitherto consisted of a King, a House of Peers, and albino of Commons, ate-half nominated by the Peers, the odue half cleated by the people: was there no danger. Mahler such *change as taking the whole of their lion frons-dia 'Peers and giving it to the people ? (Has) Woe them DO danger ibat the people might use such an be. crease of power, not merely for the destruction of the Aria. tearer', but fo r their own ? (Year, bear.) To wouplain of the sake( seats in that house was, in his *Nisi. cant and hypoitity. He had never trafficked in. seats, sec paid six., pence for a vote. (A kt) What was the pulled consequence of the sale P Ewes anallimfal noel mgt, who did not choose to take the trouble ass election auseset, pur•• chased a seat for 4 de 6,000 L or seeks Ash meta ant dm East Indies or the West Indies, purchusliamitmeiheought valuable information into the house. Was use sash nos at likely to be intiepsdint as those who pined the new et rs 101. vote, by Ending fault with all the insetadeas at the country ? Was such a purchase and sale to he called me. ruption when compared with what had achma at Live& pool where the most bed ben practised amongst ne a r ti. et vents as the present bill went to constitute. - (Hear, hear t hem) Alter the passing of the present bathes would be such aft extent of corruption as was newer hire known in this couotry. r ...(Hear, hear.) , lir. Cinhurt advice to the House and to the ebutry. when there was a spilt of change aimed, ins, cling to the institutions of your coonir bow the blessings you so*, and width you may k= pa do - net bow what is to be primal.—(Hear, hera.).— The pram Meister' new that a spiels debug, was abotti i , •but•iustead at restraining it they imastusgel it.—(Boll.}o lie had never heard say one pesos speak of the pm* 11111 beret that Haase--many of them aseMimes—lft Al me uprose their surprise at its aseato—(Hom hentoillni The moment We alliance was famed ligaila the it ma, i , il ~ i•:: . . ; and the Radicals it was plain that the opinion of the re- Iketing portion of the people would be overpowered.— (Hear, hear, bear.) Mr. R. GRANT said the hon. gentleman had alluded to some report of what fell from him at the hustings before his constituents. On that occasion he vainly looked for any antagonist who would avow and support the opinions nose supported by the hon. gentleman. (Hear, hear:, He did not say that half the tuenabers of that House were elected by Peers ; but he did tell them that the influence of Peers in the nomination of members of the Heim of Commons, was boldly defended, and he did state, that the people de. sired to see in that House &representation of the people, and not an out-house of Peers. (Hear.) Mr. MA BERLY said. he had never heatd so greats de viation from the question before the house. (Hear.) The hon. member for Callinston (Mr. Bating) had delivered a speech, every - word of which he had delivered in that house three times before. (Hear, hear.) They should keep to the question, which was the disfranchisement of Blechingley. It was notorious that those boroughs were sold, and the eight borough members of Surrey destroyed the effect of its popular representation. -and he should vote for the disfranchisement of them all. (Hear, bear.) Mr. DENISON said, he had the honour of presenting petitions from all the towns of Surrey against the nomina tion boroughs. The people of Surrey were indignant at being taxed by asecond Chamber of Peers. instead of their own representatives. (Hear, hear.) There was no jealousy amongst the people of the constitutional privilege of the peers; but the people were jealous of their returning mem bers to that house, and would no longer submit to it.— ( Hear, hear.) The CHAIRMAN put the question, which was agreed to without a division. _ _ _ _ The next question was, " That the borough of Borough. bridge stand part of Schedule A." (A roar of laughter.) Sir C. WETHERELL said those who expected that the member for Boroughbridge would defend it, would find themselves mistaken. He defended the case of Borough. bridge in defending Blechingley, and he hoped the noble lord opposite (Lord Palmerston) who was an advocate for reciprocity, would now defend Boroughbridge. Borough. bridge was a burgage tenure borough, having about seventy electors. He had the distinct admission of the noble lord and of the Attorney General, that the representation of the burgage tenure boroughs was now the same as it ever was, and that with respect to them the bill was not a reform, but was an alteration of the constitution. Conceiving it would be a waste of the time of the committee to go over the same ground he should not do it, but in another stage of the bill he should take the sense of the house on what he considered a large principle of the bill. Lord PA LBIERSTON said, he should not enter into the question of Boroughbridge. The honourable and learned gentleman called on him to give his support to Borough bridge. He could not give that support—on the contrary, he felt bound to assist in consigning it to the same tomb in which they had just laid Blechingley. (Hear, hear.) If the hon. gentleman objected to the bill, on the ground of its not being a restoration of the constitution, he was willing to accept of his assistance, if be would admit It to be improve ment. (Hear, hear.) Mr. ATTWOOD said he would not offer any argument on the case of the borough of Boroughbridge, because the arguments of his learned colleague in the case of Blechingley remained unanswered. (Hear.) But on the part of the elec tors, convicted of no crime, he denied the right of the house to do what they were now about to do, and on the heads of his Majesty's ministers be all the consequences. (Hear.) The resolution was agreed to without a division. The next resolution was, that the borough of Bossiney stand part of schedule A. Mr. S. WORTLEY said the borough certainly was de ficient in the required number of inhabitants, therefore he should not detain the house. The resolution was agreed to. The next resolution was that the borough of Bradley stand part of Schedule A. Capt. BRADSHAW said, though by the population te turns of 1821, the population of Brackley was under 2,000, yet by the last population returns, it was more than 2,000. If it had been more than 2,000 in 1821, and had decreased below that Dumber in 1831, it 'should under the bill have one Member; and he thought it unreasonable that it should be deprived of both its Members under such cir cumstances. It was not a nomination borough. The resolution was agreed to. The next Resolution was, that the borough of Bramber stand part of Schedule A. Sir C. WETHERELL said they were going on at a radical pace. (A great laugh.) They were proceeding rapidly in the week of desolation. (Hear.) He thought as it was near twelve o'clock they might give the other con demned boroughs a respite. (A laugh.) Lord ALTHORP hoped the honourable gentleman would not delay the proceedings of the Committee. The resolution was agreed to. The next resolution was, that the Borough of Callingtoa stand part of Schedule A. (A great langh.) Mr. BARING said, as the population did not amount to 2,000, be should not trouble the Committee on the subject. He should merely say, that there were near two hundred voters; and since be became connected with the borough he had never given any man a shilling for his tote, nor paid any but the moat trifling election expenses. (Hear, hear.) The resolution was agreed to. The next resolution was, that the borough of Camelford stand part of Schedule A. Mr. MILLBANK said, he and his Colleague were re turned unanimously by the borough of Camelford;to vote in favour of the Reform Bill, by which it was to be Mahan chised. (Hear, hear.) Sir C. WETHERELL said the borough of Camelford was felo de se, and should be buried in the cross-roads. Mr. MIL LBANK said the last time he paned through Boroughbridge, he was told the Reform Bill would kill the old gentleman. (Shouts of laughter.) The resolution was agreed to. The next resolution was that the borough of Castle Rising stand part of schedule A.—The resolution was agreed to. The next resolution was that the borough of Code Castle stand part of schedule A. (A laugh.) Mr. G. BANKES said Code Castle should not die fete de se, though be could not take it out albs noble lord's rule, be should not detain the committee. The resolution was agreed to. The house resumed. The CHAIRMAN reported progress,' and asked leave to sit spin this day.—Leave given. Tea fatILEN'S DOWZIL. The Queen's Dower Bill passed through a committee.— Hewn to be received to-morrow. the other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at Half.post Twelve o'elock. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. sic:maws. TO THE EDITOR OF THE STAR. PARIS, JULY 19. Sin—We have remained perfectly tranquil since last Thursday, and the Republicans have been apparently daunted at the ill success of their plan of planting the tree of liberty. Had the affair, passed off without bloodshed, it would bare been an affair to have smiled at. The Government F making such a formidable array againet a party of 4 or 500 thoughtless young men, who. were pursued and attacked indiscrimately with sword and bayonet, has conferred on the business a very serious aspect ; particularly as it is seen, that at Rennes, and in several of the departments, tress of liberty were planted by the consent of the au thorities, without any tumult taking place what ever. For a wonder there has been" no order of the day" this time, to congratulate the brave na tional guard for their conduct. A pretty good distribution of crosses had been made a few days prior to the 14th of July to the National Guards, for their meritorious conduct in suppressing the late tumult at the Port Saint Denis, after their presence had kept it alive for four days. I suppose, on this occasion, they vied .with each other in becoming candidates for the Cross, when they were laughing and shelving their bayonets, stained with the blood of their felkni-citisene in the Champs Brides. Ah ! had Charles X. been , wise, and not have disbanded the National Guards, there would only have been a change of Ministry, instead of a revolution last July. The National Guards are now the strongest supfort of 1 . , Philippe. As the time for the opening of the draws nigh, there are as usual abundant ruillo. ! , afloat, respecting changes in the ministry— t i,, t the question of peace and war has again t Eei , agitated—that M. Perier still supports his p eace . policy at any price—and that the Marslni for war. The state of the finances, however, is the stlaneh support in favor of M. Petier. The direct taxes diminish very sensibly; the deficiency, already v er y considerable under the last three months, thre•ltq;, to be much more so at the end of the current ter. A great number of the departments a. c bind hand four, five, and even six months ; a n d yet there is a talk of laying on additional tax w ., which will not be much relished in the present de pressed state of commerce. As is always the cam, the distress of private individuals re-acts upon th Treasury, which is described to be at rather a lori ebb. It is confidently asserted that the approaching session will deter mine a complete or partial disso. lution of the ministry. From the frequency of cabinet councils, it appears that the formation of the King's speech is a poser; and it rather perplexes the worthies how to explain to France the nnny difficulties which surround her. The evacuation of Italy will not be one of the least difficult to ex plain. Five days before the close of the last sessions, M. Casimer Perier announced to the chamber of Peers, that the French government had received from the court of Vienna the official communication, and the most positive assurances, of the retreat of the Austrian troops :--At the moment when I speak," said he, (the 14th of April), " orders have been given by the court of Austria, to evacuate the Roman States, and pro bably Me Austrians are at this moment re. treating." I remember this announcement was received with loud cheers, and next day the funds rose ! But what is the situation now ? General Frimont is causing reinforcements of troops to march upon almost all points of Italy ; and whenever the promised time of the evacuation draws nigh, some fresh tumult is stirred up by the agents of Austria, to shew the impossibility of withdrawing the troops with safety to the States. It is high time the eyes of the French Government were opened, unless dust—Qy. gold dust—bas been thrown into them. The news from Jassy, dated June 28th, is hor rible. That capital of Moldavia is said no longer to exist. The cholera, which has raged there during several months, as well as in the Princi pality, has destroyed an immense number of indi viduals, is now joined by the plague ; and at last there ha* been a dreadful fire, which has caused all those who were spared to take to Bight. Letters from Constantinople, of the 20th June, state that the plague has likewise burst out there, and makes dreadful ravages. The Polish Journals all appear to be pleased with even the slight mention made of their country in the speech of the King of England, at the opening of Parliament. They argue that their present struggle is regarded by the magnanimous King William the Fourth—not as a rebellion or interior trouble—but as a war of one nation against another nation. Malmaison is now fitting up with great splen dour and activity; and is supposed to be the future residence of the ex-Emperor of the Brazils. I hare only time to forward you the Journals, with the assurance that you shall hear from me, if any thing occurs. I remain, yours, die. J. L. EXTRACTS FROM THE JOURNALS. FRANCS- The fall which took place at the Bourse to-day was the result of the reports which have been cur rent that the King of Holland had refused to ad here to the 18 articles accepted by the Belgian Congress. It was also said that the superior officers who are at Patio had received an order instantly so join their corps. Also, as is generally the case at the approach of a session, they speak of a modification in the ministry; a combination has been talked of, in which there will only remain M. Perier and Marshal Soult ; but these reports merit but little confidence. The present ministry will not admit of modifications: it must remain or part altogether.—Courrier Francais. CARLIST News.—One of the sons of M. Bourmont left, on Wednesday last, for La Vendee. M. de Castelbajac, in order to escape the investi gation of the Police, bas taken flight towards the south. This is not without motive. M. l'Abbe Dupaulon, formerly almoner of the Dauphin, and since charged specially, by the Queen, with the religious instruction of the Princes of the Palsis- Royal, is . left for Rome. The aim of this journey is, we are assured, to solicit from the Holy Father the Cardinal's Hat for the Archbishop of Paris. It is especially to point out the noble conduct of the prelate to M. Gregoire. The correspondence continues always, and more active than ever, with the• ancient family. The money of Henry V. is eagerly sought after amongst the faitbful.—La Tribune. The reports of war are propagated in the Rhenish provinces, and the preparations which are making confirm them. Already the banks of the Rhine are lined with Austrian troops,who hare traversed Germany under pretext of coming to augment the garrison of Mayenee which is already so strong, that they are obliged to le furnished with lodgings in the houses of the citizens. A train of 50 pieces of artillery has just traversed Vadren to go to Sarrelonis, a city built by Louis XIV; in 1680, fortified by the Marshal of France, Vauban, and which belongs in 1831 to the King of Prussia I—Colutiattionsel.l Extract of a letter from Toulon, dated July 13th.—Itam, the officer who had refund obedience to military discipline, has been brought to trial before the military tribunal here, and acquitted. The judgment was received with acclamations of joy; and it is that the government con nived at the res t, to prevent coemoodons in the city which othenries would have been inevitable. — Journal de Commerce. The men who areprosecuted—those who are called men of mischiefmen of sinister poise% whom it is necessary to crush under general repro bation—these are nearly all combatants of the ll' minden ; those who exposed their Unit shoal whom brothers died ; those who dragged Fro" from the yoke which weighed upset her I iltrooP ineonsequence 1 You are insulted net the 14th, 76 I