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- FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. PARIS, 4JL so. The Senate held a 'sitting extraordinary yesterday, under the presidency of the Arch-Chancellor. A Se natus Consultutn was adopted relative to the incorpo ration of a part of Holland with the French empire. Marshal Massena, Duke of Rivoli and Prince of Esling, is going, it is said, to take the chief command of the army of Portugal, consisting of the corps of the Duke of Elchingen, Duke of Abrantes, and Ge neral Regnier. The Minister of Marine set off yesterday for Ant werp. It appears certain that their Majesties intend to visit that city, and that they will commence their journey from Compiegne on Friday morning. They will return to Paris on or before the 15th of May. According to the latest advices from Spain, Gene ral Sebastiani was at Malaga on the Ist instant, toge ther with his head-quarters. The greatest tranquil lity prevailed there. Letters from Ancona state, that a great number of French officers of distinction had passed through that place, who were proceeding, with all expedition, for Naples. The sixty marriages of soldiers ordered to Jae place here in commemoration of that of his Majesty the Emperor and King, were celebrated yesterday 'in the various parish churches and chapels. - The American corvette the John Adams sailed from Havre on the 21st instant. APRIL 26.—An article from Bayonne, of the 19th inst. says :—“ The Madrid Gazette of the 13th con tains advices from Grenada, dated the 28th March. The greatest tranquillity now prevails in that king dom, which was so recently a prey to disturbances, and torn by different factions". The inhabitants, un deceived, think only of hencefotth living peaceably i under the paternal government of the King. His Catholic Majesty still remained at Grenada on the 28th of March, where he issued a decree, abolishing, in con formity to the constitution, the exclusive privileges and personal rights established by the ancient kings of Spain." M. Dubois Tainville, French Charge d'Affaires at Algiers, has arrived at Marseilles in an American flag cf truce, which left Algiers on the Ist. inst. The importation of German leather into the States of the Church is prohibited ; and only that of France and Italy will henceforth be admitted. An article from Leipsic mentions that the Dutch merchants are making great purchases of cotton there, in consequence of a rumour that it will be subjected to an impost in Holland after the Ist of next month: General Grenier left Bologna on the 13th instant to take a command in the army of Naples. An article from Munich of the 16th says, that Ge neral Baraguay d'Hilliers had been recalled from his Commar.d in the Tyrol, having received another de stination of great importance. It was supposed that lie was going to Naples. A letter from Pau says, that a broad and handsome road is forthwith to be opened across the Pyrenees, to establish a communication between the department of the Lower Pyrenees and Navarre. Orders Nye been received at Orleans to prepare accommodations and rations for a division of light cavalry and three divisions of infantry: AGRAM, MARCH Ss. The following is said to be the occasion of the hos lilies Mat have taken place on the frontiers of Croatia: Pursuant to antient treaties, the Porte ought to have ceded to Austria some fortresses, castles, and districts on the frontiers of Croatia ; but this stipulation had riot been carried into execution. This part of Croatia having been ceded to France by the treaty of Vienna, the French Government enforced its rights to the places in question, and demanded the cession of them on the part of the Porte. HERMANSTADT, MARCH 26. It is asserted, that Mr. Adair, the English Am. inssador to the Sublime Porte, applied for permission to attend all the political deliberations of the Divan ; Put that the Grand Seignior gave him a positive re fusal. In the various skirmishes the Turks have had with &be combined Russian and Servian army, they gave oitierter to the few Russian soldiers who tell into their 'hands, had no mercy on the Servians. They re as their former subjects, and .conse them as rebels. They impale or behead )anying this barbarous operation with (er irony. All that has been heretofore military ferocity of the Turks is nothing to the manner in which they treated a the Servians which they had cut off in body. Those of the Servians who made prisoners, seem astonished that iffered to live, and much more that any Id be paid to their wounds. ttary organization of the Ottoman army bad as ever. It was rumoured that tgnior intended to take the command of ty iq Reruns ; but,. a few days since, he off from Constantinople. He has but of his troops, and seems little inclined person to the hilard of a battle. The • totally destittite of field artillery, ball s of the most necessary articles. • . Malta state; th:it a number of English gone to Constantinople to obtain the -4; permission to serve with the Turkish VENICF., MARCH SO. are making in . our grand marine ar construction of a certain number of ships id frigates. An immense quantity of arrived here lately by sca, from Dal." more cargoes are expected the English withdrawn from this part of the lan brigs and cutters here, that were France, are fitting out walk the ut- VIENNA, APRIL it regulation is talked of, in consequence coffee will he entirely prohibited in thc states. It can only be imported, in that vial licehCes; in the simile Oannet as othei brought from foreign cOuntries. As to w remilation hai been adopted, klcauie ipdispeasably Ocerisari in iiharsijac.y. in tile vanoc the combined F titiarter to the f 'hands, bot had Bard the latter quently treat th them, accompa the most bitter related of them in comparison t detachment of i iron) their main chance to be I 'they arc suffer( . 'attention shoulc The military ,seetns to be as I the Grand Seig. his grand army had not yet set a poor opininn c to expose his pet army is althost I ,and a number o Letters from - Officers had gr. GnandSeigniur? ;troops. Preparations senal for the con ,',of the line and ',hip timber has matia, and mor , taring totally Adriatic. The Russian lately ceded to ; most activity. • 4 general rep . of Which coffee ,A . ..up:ial - Stales. - case, by special ''commodities brc .. sugar, no new r .'that 'wicle is inn ' - r.dzaLiwiquitr PitoczEmmos. HOUSE 0 . 1 1 LORDS, MAY it. . - - - The Committee of Privileges on the Roxburgh Peerage WU postponed till Friday. •• . The Innkeepers Rates Subsistence Bill, and the Ithlt:Road Amendment Bill were read a second time, and committed for to-morrow. Mr. Owns, from the East India House, presented Accounts pursuant to Acts of Parliament, and Mr. HILL from the Trea sury an Account of the additions made to the charges on the pub lic debt for the last ten years, which were ordered to lie on the table. The accounts - from the East India House were referred to the East India Committee. The LORD CHANCeLLOR read a Letter from Lord Viscount Wellington, in answer to thi`uhminunicatien of the Vote of Thanks, expressing his high sense - Nif4he honour thus conferred upon him. The Irish Coroner's Bill, some local and ' private Bills, were brought up by Mr. O'HARA, Mr. LTOOII Mr. PILMAIA Lord FRANCIS OSBORN!, and ether Members Of the House of Com mons, and read a first time. CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. Lord ERSKINE gave notice, that he should move the second reading of his Bill for preventing malicious and wanton Cruelty to Animals on Monday, for which day the Lords were ordered to be summoned. TUE DUKE ON BRUNSWICK. The Earl of LIVERPOOL presented a Message from kis Ma. jesty relative to the Duke of Brunswick, (the same as that pre. seated to the Commons on Monday) and moved that it be taken into consideration to-morrow, and that the Lords be summoned. —Ordered. In answer to a question from Lord HOLLAND across the table, The Earl of LIVERPOOL stated, that it was merely intend ed to move an address of general concurrence, without at present pledging the House t• any particular measure. Sle.,reserrie sod Lord eividereset, f to be se !Maim 111 the essairs-illay;' a practice t the Miklos at which; in the language of your Speaker & our ancestors would bait with indignation.' s' We therefore pr a y you to follow the example of your emu 'lessors, to' expunge all your declarations, Orders, and resolutions on the subject, as tending to the subversion of our liberties,' and to the introduction of a military despotism, and to recall Sir Frau cis Burdett to the service of the country in Parliament, that he may there enforce that plan of reform which last Session he so powerfully recontmendee, and which in our opinion is absolutely necessary for the stability and honour of the Throne and the safety and well-being of the people. 4 , Signed iu the name and in the behalf of this Meeting by &c. &c. &c. Mr. BYNG then moved that the said Petition do lie on the table. Mr. MELLISH thought it incumbent on him to second this motion, though he should not think it his duty to support the Petition any farther. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved, that the Petition be again read, which being accordingly done, The Right Honourable Gentleman rose and stated, that when a Petition on the same subject was some days ago presented from the Electors of Westminster, many Gentlemen had expressed an'opinion, that from the disrespectful way in which the Petition was word ed, it ought not to be received. He had then urged on the House the propriety of following a different course, and of allowing the Petition, though by no means unexceptionable in its language, to he on the table. In the conduct he had then pursued, he con ceived that he bad given a proof of his forbearance, which ought to convince the House that he would , not object to the present motion, were he net per suaded that the language of the Petition now underl consideration, was infinitely more exceptionable than that then objected to, indeed, that it was such as, could hardly leave a doubt in the mind of any one,' that it was the wish of those who used it to insult the House. He was not one of those who would ask of the House, when a Petition was presented to them, desiring Parliamentary Reform, or any other object which a particular class of men might think it essen tial for them to obtain, or when they were called on to review any proceedings which they had adopted, to look at the language in which it was conceived, with a captious view. On the contrary, if it were possible to conceive that the House was not meant to be insulted, he would be the last to call upon them to reject any such Petition. But he would only ask of Gentlemen to take a dry view of the words of thi. Petition, and then to say, if it have been dictated by any other spirit than this, that marking the great for bearance of the House on the former occasion, the present Petitioners were now anxious to try how far they might go, and that the Petition was not intend. ed for any other purpose than to insult. It told them that they had assumed and exercised a power which was contrary to the Constitution, and against which they protested. This left no possible ambiguity as to their meaning, or as if it was only to the mode of exe cuting the warrant that they objected. This was not the language of submission, but telling the House, on the authority of the Petitioners themselves, that they (the House) had acted contrary to the Consti tution. Was this like the language of persons com-, ing to that House to petition ? No, it was the lan guage of persons who thought themselves entitled to dictate to the House, and on their own authority to , declare, that the House had been guilty of an as• l sumption of power which did not belong to tf*m. In the Petition presented from the inhabitants of West minster, to which many Gentlemen objected, there was nothing like this. It could be meant for nothing but to insult the House. It was therefore the duty of the House to stop short, before it permitted in silt to be added to insult. There must be a line dr.twn for such Petitions, so as that every idea of decency was not suffered to be outraged—and he submitted there could not be a question that the present petition had passed this line. Mr. Alderman COMBE, though he did not de fend the language of the Petition, wished it to be re ceived, because it was impossible to see, if the Peti tion were rejected, where the matter might end. The Meeting from whom the Petition was presented, had been nearly unanimous, and the rejection of the present Petition was not likely to produce language more moderate. Mr. CALCRAFT, in voting that the Petition should be received, begged to be understood a. grounding his opinion not on the circumstance of the Meeting - having been unanimous, or that there was little probability, were the Petition rejected, of a Pe. EVERSION BILL. Earl GROSVENOR gave notice, that he should move the second reading of the Reversion Bill on Fri day, for which day the Lords were ordered to be sum moned. Lord HOLLAND wished that Ministers would state what their course of proceeding was intended to be, with reference to the point started on the discus sion of the former Bill, relative to the necessity of having his Majesty's consent in some stage of the Bill. The Earl of LIVERPOOL stated, that he had not received his Majesty's commands to make any communication relative to the Bill. Lord Viscount SIDMOUTH adverted to what he had said on the discussion of the former bill; and obser ved, that he had not then heard any doubt suggested as to the necessity of having his Majesty's consent in some stage of it ; and if he now heard no doubt sug gested upon that point, he should assume it to be ad mitted that his Majesty's consent was necessary in some stage of the present 'Bill. In that case, he thought it would be most expedient for Ministers to advise his Majesty to give his consent in an early stage of the Bill. He did not, at the same time, mean to contend that the want of his Majesty's con sent ought to prevent the discussion of the Bill. The Earl of ROSSLYN expressed his satisfaction in the understanding that the discussion of the Bill ought not to be prevented by the want of his Ma jesty's consent. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that, whatever might be the opinion of Noble Lords, with reference to his Majesty's consent being necessary, or to the propriety of - giving that consent in an early stage of the Bill, he was persuaded that the want of his Ma jesty's consent ought not to be pleaded in bar to the free discussion of the Bill. Earl GROSVENOR did not think his Majesty's consent necessary ; and it should be recollected, that, if it *as to be held that his Majesty's consent was ne cessary before they could proceed in a particular stage of a Bill, the House would in a great degree surren der their own privileges. He thought, however, from what had been stated by the Noble Secretary of State, that Ministers would advise his Majesty to send down a Message expressive of his Majesty's consent. The Earl of LIVERPOOL observed, that from the acts of Government it would be seen what ad vice himself and his colleagues had given to his Ma jesty ; but he begged that Noble Lords would not draw an inference where there was no act to autho rise it. Lord HOLLAND observed, that the Noble Lord need not be afraid of an inference, as the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers was so unaccountable,, that it was quite impossible to draw an inference from it. Adjourned till to-morrow (this day). HOUSE OF COMMONS. The third reading of Sir Samuel Rom'llys Law Bills was pui off till to-morrow. . . - A conversation took place on the second reading of the Porte- tition of a more moderate nature being presented.— mouth Water Works Bill, which was negatived without a di. vision. Mr. P. MOORB obtained leave to bring in a Bill for rebuild lag the late Drury-lane Theatre Royal, under the conditions therein mentioned. Mr. ROSE obtained leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the dut y paid on Foreign Linens in certain cases. This appeared to refer to the Linens varehotssed at the time of passing the former /let. MIDDLESEX PETITION. Mr. BYNG presented a petition from the Freehol ders of the County of Middlesex, agreed to at their at Meeting, for taking into consideration the late votes of' the House of Commons in the case of Sir .134 He was of opinion, that the Meeting h av i ng been unanimous, afforded no reason for the Horse rec ei v . ing a Petition couched in unbecomi ng l anguage .-- Onlooking at the words of this Petition, h e did not f i nd i n th e m a n y thi ng so o bj ec ti ona bl e as to i n d uce him on that account to say that the Petiti on must b e rejected. He agreed it would have be e n b etter t h at the objectionable paragraph had been omitted ; but still it was the duty of Parliament to ope n w id e i ts doors to Petitions. When Gentlemen con s id ere d tle way in which the representation in that House was, Fraricis Burdett, and the new and extraordinary pro- in too many instances, brought about, they must not ceedings had thereupon. be surprised that words were used that they did not The Petition being brought up, was read at the like ; and if steps were not taken to render the sys table : tern better and more seemly, they must not be sur " To the Honovrable the Commons of the United Kin s a nin o f prised if the complaints became louder and more Ire- Great Britain and Ireland, in Parliament assembled. ( cent. The Petition had a proper pray er , a nd as , " The Petition of the Freeholders of Middlesex agreed to to the request they made was one which it was compe fell county this 26th day of April, 1610, tent for any Petitioners to make to that H ouse , h e " Sheweth, That we have observed with concern that in the cases of Mr. John Gale Jones and Sir Francis Burdett, Bart. your was of opinion they should not quarrel a b out t h e House assumed and exercised a power unknown to the law aid words. The words were undoubtedly not agreeable, unwarranted by the constitution. but still, if they contained a truism, were they on that " Your Speaker s warrant has been executed by military farce account not to be taerated ? Was it a libel on that —an Englishman's house, his sanctuary, has been violated, and the blood of unoffending citizens has been shed in the streets. House, after what had lately passed there, that Seat s " Assinst the existence as well as the exercise of this power, (in it were bought and sold ? And should that be we solemnly protest—a protest the more necessary because your' called a libel which was a truism ? As long as the votes in its support are entered on your Journals—not so the letter Nouse suffered the practice to prev a il, t h ey mus s of Sir Francis Burdett to your Speaker, denying you such juris- • diction. submit to pocket the insult of being told t h at i t ex "in the early part of this reign, in the case of Mr. Wilkes, the isted. It was impossible, so long as this system ex rights of this county and ef the nation were repea t e c ny and grossly isted, that persons applying to that House, could violated by the House of Commons. At length the law triumphed. address it with all the respect it might otherwise rea- After a struggle 'of nearly twenty years the House abandoned the " 131 y expect and would obtain. pretensions they had arrogated, and ' expunged' from their Jour- 1 sona hats 4 all their declarations, orders, and resolutions, as being sub- Mr. DAVIS GIDDY did not intend when he versive of the rights of the whole body of the Electors of this came into the House to have said a word on this sub- Kingdom.' lo o ect. - He agreed that the doors of th e House ought " You have during your pleasure deprived the citiaens of West- ,_ _ e opened widely to receive th e P et i t i ons o f a ll West minster of their share in the representation, and the public at large of the exertions of a faithful servant, in whose ability, firm.. who chose to apply to them in a regular and proper ness, and integrity, they pre-eminently 'confide. manner. All the argument on this head, however, " We view with JeaLln4Y and elliPiettm the shutting uP sir I must fall to the ground, the moment it appeared that Francis Burdett in prison when the attention of the nation is di. any application of the kind was_not really a petitjpp, rected with atntiety to his intended Motion for a RifOrm in the . ht, in a covert man- Representation of the People in your Honourable House—that but a paper, by wl}iat it was fou g ht, Hew is which the Mac In seats has peen vowed in the sue of Aet, to Insult the House. The Peutioners 4 in this case, had dressed op as a petition, a paper, not by they expected any redress of grievance s , but by they presumed to dictate to the House what chose to think right. As to any Reform, o r , to any alteration in the constitution of that House , representation to a delegation, he had no hese, ' trea in declaring his opinion, that it would not tend , advantage of the people. He objected, therefore, Gentlemen taking that for granted which had been proved, and was not conceded to them. the words of the petition, they wese disrespec.fil the highest degree. It did not contain such a pea, as the petitioners could, by possibility, erpected granted ; and to allow it to lie on the ;hi! • only lead to the preienting of others still men sive. The House must make a stand against practice at some time or other, and it was bte e , do so now than at any after period. It had been , to be a respectable meeting, but Gentlemen enough of what was to be expected from MK!! ings in the neighbourhood of populous towns the spirit of this meeting might be judged of their refusing to hear a Gentleman of the ' respectability, Member of that House (Mr. le on his attempting to deliver his sentiments subject. This circumstance did not add much , argument derived from the unanimity of the meet, Mr. HAWKINS BROWNE thought the • of the petition chewed that it was not the (V i e the petition to procure the liberation of Sir Fr. Burdett, a Reform in Parliament, or any othe cific object. The petition was only made the • of conveying a gross insult to the House, and , matical denial of its 'privileges. The petition Westminster was capable of receiving a more' able interpretation. The present was nut. becoming in that House to 'be-moderate, but moderatioa produced only insult, then it became House to assert its dignity. He thought the ' might on a former occasion have adopted the moderate course ; but now it was necessary for to support !heir proceedings. Mr. HIBBERT said, that the moment was deal importance, on which he strongly felt he speak. The petitioners were not, like the majv that House, convinced of the constitutional of ie. privileges. They, on the contrary, dens auth tits', and more particularly, questioned gality of those acts in which it had recently 'erteJ. Allowance was to be made for men warm su. h a subject—but he should be sorry if the which might have found its way into some expressiom of their petition, should be caught by the Hi commenting upon those expressions. The which had beet so much objected to, would be at last to be no more than the most brief, abrui somewhat coarse declaration of the opinion , petitioners, which they must either have indull have no ground for petitioning at all. There another consideration, and he begged to address the feelings of the House. This question of pre of Parliament was, it seemed, one, which couli be easily submitted to any other tribunal than Parliament itself. In proportion then as the subjects of the Realm found the means of its legal discussion narrowed, in that proportion should Parliament oper, the doors to atty appeal made to itself upon the sub. lect, and not too scrupulously weigh the terms in which such an appeal was made. For these reasons he should vote for receiving the petition. Mr. BARHAM wished, as the present was a qua. don of very great importance, that time. should be elven for 'consideration, and that there should be a fuller ste.ndance of the House than there was at that moment. If such a discussion had been expected, ire was satisfied the attendance would have been fuller. He should therefore move that the debate be adjourned till to-morrow. If pressed for an im i mediate opinion, he must say, that he was against receiving the petition. An Honourable Alderman was against refusing the petition, from not knowing . where the matter would end. He thought the pre sent petition, instead of being worded carelessly, was worded most carefully ; and receiving it would only bring on another more aggravated than the present. Wh lever the House did feel itself called on to stop, it it did not adopt that course at present, it would be Kith something worse than the petition now under consideration. He thought, however, that a deci. sion would be come to with more effect and weight when there was a fuller attendance, and greater lei sure had been given for deliberation. He albo thought that the rejection of the petition ought to be followed up with some Resolutions exprbsive of the grounds on which the House had proceeded. He concluded by moving that the debate be adjourned till to-morrow. Mt. GRENFELL seconded the motion of ad journment. Mr. H. SUMNER conceived the paper now nie der coruideration had nothing in it of a petition but the name. Such a practice ought to be checked, us liming; and he saw no occasion for delaying till to• morrow what they ought to do to-day. A Worthy Alderman (Combe) was afraid of the consequences of refusing such a petition. For his own pant he had no fear of the kind. Mr. Alderman COMBE, in explanation, said, he had never expressed any fear for the consequences, and begged the Hon. Gentleman not so much to mis• understand him. Mr. LAMBE was of opinion, the House had al• ready gone too far to talk of stopping in li,,ine. They had already received a Petition, which was at least sufficiently strong, He could not is; his own mind conceive any thing stronger than the petition by the inhabitants of Westminster, who had veld the House that they had offered by their proceedings, a pore indignity to them. He thought the House had better agree to the proposition of his Hon. Friend (Mr. aIT• ham}, that they might deliberately consider how tat they would allow that power to be stretched. which certain persons had instilled into the mind* or the misguided people they had a right to carry to any length, by filling them with wild and absurd ideas of their rights. Though he was a friend to petitioning, this was a period at which he was inclined to think it ought to be viewed with more than usual strictness. -There was a disposition to deny that the House, as it was at present constituted, afforded a legal represen tation of the people. Against such a doctrine he protested, and contended that it was equal to the dis charge of those duties which it owed to the country in th* eonaidqration of its affairs both abroad and at hqme. He felt infinitely more disposed, on a ques tion of this kind, to coalesce with those who outer r whia t f 'Aids . In t h ey r ratites louse, a eskation Id toa st had net As m reitil a !ny e tad t o b e it In' Oita. St s itch a beta,' to bete u .:4 nen sass el m eet . mu, an d of f rom ! high est hlelri s h) s on th e ,ch to OA. meetingg. to words object o: r frit uci‘ her spe. e vehicle d a dog. ion from e favour. It wag out when teirrte the lie House the mo re for th em vas of cri- he must tajority cf authority mied that ed the le. been as. rarm with t warmth xpressione House in e passage be found rupt, and on of the Julged of here was dress it to privilege could not lan that of e subject discussion pent open n the sub. terms in rse reasor4 ras a qua. should be ould be a ras at that expected,