Star. — London, England, 1817-02-06 00:00:00

PA 4 _Tti 1.4 M T PRO;;EEL,INGS. HOUSE OF ISIRDS, FEBRUARY S. In the Appeal Cattle Nicetp , -1 , :-y. Bart. and others, Trustees or William, Ws: :it he of Q Francis, Earl of Wens's*, sod Iltarrh, hi-. I.sWeis and Mr. J\IF were heard, rs• great length, for the kec k ooder.r.—Further pru ceettink,s oil Frhiriy. Mr. Hyatt from th: Comm!rsimera for the Redudion of the blatiorai elebr, presented, ts.r...int to Act it Parliament, the Acemiot f:r tL Year g the is: of Issniary last.—Also on Axcousit of tire Sums rrArs , tsatti to the said Commissioners in rx.:!.at.g» for Life Anwar • •s, up to the same Period, gultfor!”. the linf year. lio4s which wore WA on the Table. ix:l4llw S rilArneks. Soot after the C•ains I had witkleavm, their Lord ships, putsuan: to the. Cr Jet of yesterday, proceeded to ballot f ,, r a Comfort:cc of Eleven Lords, to take into crnsidtrati-n and report upon the Papers and Dornntents communicated to the ! louse by command of his Royal Highness the Prince Regent. The gl.ssio were regularly handed round by the Clerks to the Peers present, who each, with two or t: tee exceptions, dt-positcd • thtir lists of names therein. A Commi:iee of Seriniay. consisting of five Peers, wits Oen appointed to critnine the lists, and to report the names of the Lords who lied the ma k:ride: upon the ballot. Their Lordships accord ingly withdrew tor the purpose. In a few minutes the Committee returned, and the Earl of Alt kI.DILEN reported to the House, that the tollowing Peers were chosen on the ballot, vie. The Loin r.!tioNCELLoa Earl of Pow • Earl or Haanowny Earl of ST. L.LItA I / 1 11N3 The Duke of tlioroin Viscount Siemer Duke of MON sage Lord Gacivrt.c Earl of Livia YOWL Lord ktDESDALIC. Earl FsTIL WILLIAM DECIS: VII VICTORY AT ALGIERS. 'Soon after, Lord Viscount Exmovrif, accompa eed by his Royal Highness the Duke of C_Lanksca, entered the House. When the Noble and Gallant LOrd appeared in his place, The LORD CHANCELLOR rose for the pur pose of communicating personally to him their Lord ships' recent Vote of Thanks, which he pretaced with an introduction to the following effect : Lord Viscount EXMOUTH— I am commanded by the Lords to acquaint you, that this House, in tile discharge of a great public duty, has thought proper to piss unanimously, a Vote of Thanks to your Lorlship for your gallant and most able and meritorio.us conduct, in carrying into full effect the orders received by your Lordship on the part bf his Majesty's Government, in an attack upon the town anti fortifications ot Algiers, which led to the impor tant and glorious result of the liberation of the Chris tian Slaves detained in that town and Pert; and far ther, to the abolition of Christian slavery for ever. In this great and important measure, whieli so greatly tends to enhance the lustre of the British name and character, the Haute, in the course ot its delibera tions ova this subject, saw, with high satisfaction, that the plan of this great achievement was formed by your Lordship's skill and judgment; and that chi.fly by your valour and intrepidity the great achievement was performed. Such a display of your Lordsliip's skill and judgment, valour and intrepi dity, cannot fail to elevate and rank your name wills those illustrious men who have the most emi nently contributed to establish the naval superiority 1 and glory of this country. For my own part, my Lord, I slr.all not presume to detain the House, whilst I should endeavour to do justice to your houourable lame and great naval character. I shall proceed to communicate to you:. Lordship the honour of the Thanks of this House, In that form in which they we:e voted by then .Lordships : " Resolved, mry er cAtr.t.iunts, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, in Parhanitnt assembled, that tbe Thanks of this House be giveu to Admiral Edward Lord Viscount Einsouth, C.B. for hi, very able and gallant conduct in suecesstully directing the attack upoa the batteries and naval Smoot Algiers. on the 117th of August, line." Lord Viscount•EXMOUTH then addressed the House to the following effect :—Aker the high en comiums, my Lords, upon my conduct, which have fallen from the Noble Lord who has so honoured me, it is impossible that I can express, by any language of mine, what 1 feel on this most iitpcieta i nt occasion. I trust, my i..olds' - I shall receive fro& thr t ; (MSC, and the Noble Lord who has so eloqnsgotly, ized r e g me, full credit for the feelings of grown and re spect with which I am animated; stay, with which, in nay present situation, I feel myself .pverwbelmed, at these expressions of approbation and applause of my execution of the orders which I had the honour to receive from his Royal Highness the .Prince Re ran. It is impOssible for me to find language ode quite to the expression of my feelings on this occa sion. My Lords, I have been for more than 4.0 seats of my life in the naval service of my King and Coon. try. and have been present in numerous sictions. On' this Occasion, I moat do justice to the assistance I re claimed from the bravery and exertions of Rear-Ad miral Sir David Milne: and to the assistance of Vice- Admiral Capellen, and the brave Officers and men .under his command: I was also much indebted, as well as to the activity and bravery of the men in the squadrons of both nations. I may venture to say, my Lords, aithout fear 'of contradiction, that tl.e, Naval Annals of Great Britain do not product an instance where any attack was more boldly or ener getically persevered in. I cannot sufficiently express say feelings at finding the service which I had the honour to perform so highly honoured and applaud ed. To the Noble Lord, who, in so eloquent, dig nified, and impressive a manner, has communicated to me the 'Thanks of the House, I feel so lunch ob liged, that the recollection of it will never be effaced from my Mind. I am sure that those gallant Officers and brave men whom I had the honoor to command, and to whom I shall be proud apd happy to commu nicate the honour of your Lordships' 'Vote ; will pro perly entettain a grateful sense of the high honour so conferred upon them. With satisfaction I shall convey to. my brave associates my testimony of the high honour so conferred upon them in the applause and 'approbation of this ll , nise ; and 'Rich, I am tenths, will be received by all of them lewd : samb feelings of respect and gratitude with which I am ' 4 myself impressed. After the. Noble 'and Gallant AffiiiiraA had con. chided. Viscount MELVILLE moved, that the Address of the Lord Chancellor, on communicating the Thanks of the House to Admiral Lcrd Viscount Exmouth, and the Answer of the Noble Viscount to the same, be entered Upon the Journals.— Ordered. The Duke of CLARENCE observed. that the successful result of thiesPedition to Algiers might be ranked amongst the moss brilliant exploits in annals of thecouptry.. • It bad been said in foreign counti ies, upon former occasions, Om we had fought for our Owe private interests, without regard to the welfire of other States. The present instance, he; was happy to say, afforded a complete refutation oft tl:is erroneous notion: At peace with - every Power we sent this expedition for the sake of the general terests of Christianity and humanity. and every Christian Power must feel the great and inestimable' benefits resultihg from its gterititts and successful re sult. He warmly and cordially joined in every praise given to Lord Exmouth, whose character and silents he highly estimated, and whose skill, judg mei', and ealcur, displayed in this expedition, re flected the highest honour upon the country. His Itt:yal Highness concluded by moving, that the Speeches of the Lord Chancellor and Lord Vis:ount Lititiouth, should be printed and published. Ordered. Adjourned till to-morrow (this day.) iiM:SE OF COMMONS. Lerd GEORGE UERESFORD appeared at the Bar, andie fortred the House, that eta Royal litent•as the Prince Reran had received their Address of Cone - mutation on the Neriais of her Royal Highness the Princess Mary and the Duke of Glow-. caerz, and several other Addresses, prtyi.ig fur certain Papers, witi,h be had ordered should be laid before them. LORD EXMOUTH. The SPEAKER stated that he had received a letter from Adn:iral Lord Viscount Exmouth, ac kncaledging the recei- f t of the Thanks voted by that House, to the following effect:- . " Kra—l have had the horour to receive your letter of the Sd instant, cunveyirg the Thanks of the Hoise of Commons, for the =ion fought at Algiers on the Y7th of August, to me, and to ti.e Officers, Sailors, and 'Marines, serving ender try orders; and relnesting me to communicate the same Thanks to Vied. Admiral Capilen, of the Netherlands, sad the Officers and Men %meter his command. It will be a must gratifying duty for me to comply with that request; and to make known the Itesolutionsof the House of Commons to the Officers of our AEI. The Thanks of that House will always be considered the greatest reined which can be received by an Qfker for his services. " I remain, ace. Ezatorrn." • . . COMMITTIS OF Skell6CY. Lord CAST LEREAGH moved, that the Order of the Day should be read for proceeding to the Gal lot for a Committee of Secrecy. The Order having beets read, the House proceeded to the ballot. The Clerk read over the names of every Member, laz Counties, and each Member who was prepared with a list came forward and deposited it in the glass.— The lists, with very few exceptions, came from the Ministerial side of the. House. Alter the whole were gone through, the second Clerk read over again the names of those who had not answered the first call, and several additional lists were produced. The SPEAKER then observed, that a Committee of Scrutiny must be appointed, to inspect the said lists, and report to the House the names of those Members upon whom the majority had fallen. Mr. BROUGHAM said, he did not mean to dis pute the propriety of proceeding with all that forma lity, but he only wished to remind the House that that mode of carrying no the nomination was one that occupied a vast deal of their time to very little purpose. They bad now been above one hour em ployed in the tedious operation of putting lists into the urn. He did not know whether the same process WAS to be observed in appointing the Committee of Scrutiny ; but at all events, that Committee, when appointed, would have to retire, 'to east up the num bers, and accurately to ascertain upon whom was to devolve the task of deliberating upon that most in:- portant matter. In order to remind the House how much time might be saved, mod precisely the same result attained, by the Noble Lord opposite reading the list of names which he Wished to have in the Committee, he would undertake to Arad the 21 names that would actually be returned, without the trouble of any scrutiny, or any complicated arithme tical process--(4 laugh, and crier of read, read)—He did not allude, however, so much to the present Com mittee, as to one 'which was shortly to be appointed, of real importance, who would have matters of real moment to inquire into, and whose nomination would be of infinite importance to the country; The Ho nourable Member then read from a list the following names which he asficiitated wool I appear upon the list resented by the Committee of Scruariri. • I.aaeastlereasis The Solicitor:General, Lecd*Milion Mr. Wliberf ilobsonlry filr Arthur Pigott Mr. Canning Mr. Eprtod Mr. Bat burse Mr. Venation air William Castle Lord Laseefles • • :.; 3 ~ ~.~ 'Mb • Mr. Wilbnkam Bootle Mr. °fine live Mr. W. Elliott Mr. Robinson Mr. W. Lambe bit John Nichol • Tlio Attorney-General Mr. W. Dime. Mintrol Frank. Lord CASTLEREAGH moved for the appoint. mint of a Committee of-Scrutiny, consisting of Mt. Arbuthnot, Mr. Macdonald, and Mr: Freemando. The Motion was agreed to unanimously, and' the Committee retired. Lord MORPETH presented a Petition from the Parish of Alston, in Cumberland, praying for a Re. vision of the Poor Laws. Mr. CURWEN expressed a hope that the House would see the justice and necessity of equalizing the burden for 'the support. of the Poor.. The Funds, and every other species of property, would, he hoped, in the course of.tlik present Session, be brought under the operation of the Poor Laws. It was his intention shortly to move for a Committee to consider the pro priety of revi,ing thine Laws, a measure which was the more important in the present distressed state of the country. The Petition was ordered to be brought up. Mr. PONSONBY asked when the Report of the Commissioners relative to the Irish Courts of *lattice would be hid upon the table t Mr. PEEL said he knew of up reason why the Re. port might not be laid before. the House to-morrow. Mr. PONSONBY expressed his satisfaction at the explanation he had just received. Whilst on his legs he wished to know what arrangement had been made by the Treasury respecting the establishment of the Irish Vice-Treasurei's office ? If the Right Honoar able the Chancellor of the Exchequer was not .pee. pared **answer, he (Mr. Ponsonby) was anxious' that the prisent application should be considered as the notice of his intention to make a motion on tare diy. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed, that on toe consolidation of the Exchequer of Great Britain and Ireland, it could not be sup posed that the business of the latter could be con ducted without aVice-Treasurer. Mr. PEEL believed the question of the right Honotfeeble Gentleman (Mr. Ponsonby) referred to the intended establishment of clerks, &c. in that de pertinent. On.that point he could perhaps afford the best information. When the late appointment Was made, the Vice-Treasurer applied to the Iris 4 Government for the necessary assistance to eond:ct the ditties of the office. An authertty was given 4ty the Lord Lieutenant, to make id temporary arrange ment for the current business, until the Treasury should be enabled to make out the fin.tlestablishment. Mr. PONSONBY—Can the Chancellor of the Ex chequer state within what time the 6nal arrangement Mill be completed ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it was impossible for the Treasury to have obtained the necessary dentate:lts, until it had the opportonity of personally consulting with the Secre tary of the Irish Government. On the motion of Lord CASTLEREAGH, the omission of the detachment of Royal Artillery and Sappers and Miners, in the Resolution of Thanks to Lord Exmouth's squadron, was supplied, and the Mune ordered to stand part of the origin .1 Resolution. On the motion of Mr. CURWEN, it was ordered that Copies of the first decision of the Court of Ex chequer on a Modus for Tithes, without a reference to a Jury, and of the pending Tithe Causes, should be laid before the House. A new Writ was ordered for Yarmouth, In the rowan)! Rich. and Wellesley r Esq. Mr. BROUGHAM moved for et counts of an Warrants and Communications which had passed from the Treasury to certain Auditors of ACCOIIIRP, and a nether the burins of some of these Aud'tors had not been transferred to other Boards.—Ordere.i• LONDON PETITION. Lord COCHRANE presented a Petition from the Distressed Inhabitants of London, signed by fifty ' four thousand and some hundreds. The Petitioners prayed for Reform, and expressed it as their opinion, that the distresses under which they laboured were ' caused by the state of the Representation in that House. They prayed that Sinecures, the only use cf which was to influence the votes of that House, should be for ever abolished, and that pensions should be given only to those who had really served their country. It was certainly disgraceful for persons to continue to bold such situations, while they saw their fellow•CfeAttlrei daily perishing for want in every street. The Petition, in his opinion, was couched in respectful language. He bad been instructed by the Petitioners to say, that there was no riot on the day of meeting, and that the persons who had committed disturbances in the eisy; were a horde of mad theorists, supporters of the Spencean Plan, and from whom sentiments they totally differed. As to their efforts, he thought it would be as absurd. to suppose that' they could overturn the Constitution, as it would have been to fear that Johannah Southcote should subvert the Religion of the country. As to the state of the Na tional Representation, it was bad indeed, when the greater part of the inhabitants of the Borough of Honiton lived by the sale of their votes. When be had first applied to that place, on asking the electors for whom tiny intended voting they had answered " for Mr. Masi," meaning those who should pay them best. He had still the bills which he had paid them. The object of the present Petition was to prevent the election of Members by pecuniary meant, and the expenditure of the public money in such practices. Individuals had been with him, thinking he sills probably still " Mr. Mot," to inform him that they had seats in that House to dispose of.-- rbey said that they could sell cheat to the Treasury, but es , they rather inclined to the Opposition, they, offered them first to him. He would now only add, that every obstruction possible had been given to the, signing of the Feudal. Publicans bad been deprived, or threatened to be deprived, of their licenses—: (Heir, hear)—so that they were afraid of allowing any person belonging to them to put their names to the Petition. He thought that it deserved the atten tion of the House. The distress of the people was really dreadful, for hunger and starvation were still lees lenient than the wretches , who plunged their fellow-creatures into the black hole at Calcutta, and at least put a speedy termination to their :Wining'. He then stated, among the other contents of the Pe tition, that it prayed for the extension of Universal Suffrage. Mr. PASCOE Q REN FEL L expressed his anxiety taVeeer a few words in reference to the prominent pester of the Petition, as well as of other Petitions that were lying on the Table of the House. Venc rating, as be did, that Constitution, which, whatever were its theoretical defects, secured to the people of this country more practical liberty and individual happiness than was ever experienced by any other country on the globe, he could not but feel some de- glee of alarm—alarm, no doubt, considerably dimi nished by his recollection of the proverbial good sense of the British people, at the wisd and impracticable doctrines circulated amongst these Petitioners. He had little expected to have seen revived these doc trines that bad in France, after such scenes of violence and blood, destroyed liberty itself, and by men too, who bad not only witnessed the atrocities of that Re volution, but have out-lived its results—(lirer, hear). He was as determined as any man.to go to the tut. lest length in urging every practicable economy and retrenchment in the expenditure cf the country, or to any definite Reform leading to practical improve ment, but be was u fully prepared to resist the at tempts at those, a great proportion of whom he be lieved to be deluded, whilst others, he was persulded, were unprincipled, wicked, and dangetous, and who in his conscience, he believed, under the pretext of ReforM, directed all their efforts to Revolution. The Petition was then ordered to lie on the Table. RZIPORIII. Lord COCHRANE presented a Petition from the Borough of Leigh, praying for Reform gene rally, and one from Elorseford, Yorkshire, for An nual Parliaments and Universal Stelfrage:—Ordered to lie on the table. Lc rd JOHN RUSSELL presented a Petition from the Freemen and Freeholders. and other Inh ibitantb of Tivistock, for Reform generally, the abolition of I . Sioecnres, and against the augmentation of - the-Civil List. Mr. HARVEY said, he held in his hand a Petition from the City of Norwich for Reform, without any prayer for Annual Parliaments or Universal Suffrage. Though he differed politically from some of the Gentlemen who signed it. he still begged to assure the Hope, they were most respectable men, and would never sauction arty bystem subversive of the 7 Constitution. The Petition was Caen otchtrd on the CrIIMITTICE OF STCRECIt. Mr. B R OGDEN having hrought up the :t •rt•:11 the Committee of Secrecy, ...hien was Tertire;. e following niunes were reA t i liy ‘.i e Clut k .1t i!le I 1 .-u• as those %sho 1%4%1 oht.titte,l tu.• !Ire.ste , t. r: votes, and who, the:vitae, constitute.; t:IC : ...•: of Secrecy : Votes 125 Lord Mum Mr. ?atonal - 121 The Hon. Wm. Elliot 124 s • o 't II Lord Cutler 110 l.oed Lane Hes. he Hou . FL Bathurst 144 The Hen. Win. Lambe 123 Sir A. Pigott Mr. Robinson The At.orocy.:: •-• • - 1 !it Mr. C:o 11l il I s la Tie Hoot. C. Yorke. t.t. Mr. Egerton - I ii• Mr. Wilberforce I iv Mr. Wilbraham Bootle 1 : 9 'I he Right Hon. Will..ni • Sir r. Nichols llie Solicit-r-General (Livid cries of hear, hear, al 11enchir.)—The Committe meet tc-morrow (this day in AIC r DunJ:as The Weht Hon. G. Russ Sir Will:ans Curtis tit Admiral Frai.k tIT I a lat.zli fiord the Oisposiii„ t wear then appwialeil t. FRANCE. On the Motion ~f Mr.. HAMMERSLEY, Accinnts were ordered to tie laid beforc the House respeeiii , :; all sums paid by this country to France since 184, for the support of prisoners of war, and of all sums paid by France during the last twenty yeati. Soria allusion being made when this motii n was submitted to the House to the Loan l ttely proposes! betw4i.o France and some mercantile hooves in this cimiiirr, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQI:I:I O . said lie had No hesitation in declaring Gcvensi.a:.t had not directly nix indirectly given that transaction, nor auy guarantee of Hear, hear. heir. Mr. TIERNEY wi-hA r leney.v whether they ::.td no: counten.inced the Lo.ta No answi,r bring given, Mr. PON:39FM' .Ta;i!, Government could ik.t guarantee auy 51.14:111 without the sanction ot Parliament, but h. to know whether they bad nut counte nmen i t h e transaction ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEOJER, in a vety low tone, observed, ;hat any Foreign rk,, vernment was surely at full liberty to bo-tow ;: au monied individuals in the courtly, but it did n t low as the consequence ot auch a trans taloa. ..it the Government of this country was it party. ! repeated his former declaration, that Mi islets not directly or indirectly given any pledge or .y on the Loan, and had not countenanced it at I. COMMISSARIAT. . • Mr s WARRE observed, that there could not Ell to be a great mass of Commissariat Accounts siuce the last war. He se isbed to know when these wooll be hid berde the House The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said they were not yet fully arranged, but would be produced as early as possible. CAVING BANKS. Mr. ROSE, after some remarks on the general uti lity of Saving Banks, moved for leave to bong in a Bill' to regulate them better than at present. Sir CHARLES MONCK did not mean to np. pose the Motion, but repeated his objection attains: the money lodged in these Banks being placed inns: Public Funds, and thought this deserved some tit tendon. It was idle to dream of abolishing fc'r Rates by the institution of such Banks, as the ;:tia; was impossible. Mr. CUKWEN lamented the great.evils athing from the poor rates, and said this year ten mili7no would be called for by rates and subscriptions. would only mention Leeds as a melancholy prn,-.t the alarming pressure of these rates :—one I :-:7) ri 120 acres was at Ibis moment paying or.e ! .vo;:. a week for the poor, and the funds already cal :e:•11 were so exhausted. that there was no uttdcrit r:! what could be done at the end of six seeks. number of applicants, in addition to the regular pu , already exceeded 800. He thought some coerLi:c measures necessary to make individuals alive to the 4 own interests, and to see the necessity of doing sone-- thing for themselves. The Property Tax had lie .:t very proicrly abolished, and was some relief, hi't still the burden arising from it was light co:npaiel with that of the rates. He hoped something to al,. viate that burden would be dune before the Samoa was terminsted. Mr. ROSE said he never meant to be und•rstood .is saying that the Institution would ab •lish the We: at once ; on the contrary, he had said it would begin the work of abolition. He had so fully detailed nit opinion respecting these Banks last Session, as to tea der it unnecesser y now to go into the subject at lengll4. He might probably do so on a future opportunity. Mr. WILBERFORCE was glad to seu siici il. stitutions patronised by the House, as be telt Ce;r deep importance, and the advantages they w 041.1 produce not only to the personal comforts, but ta ni •moral improvement of the individual. It was to , ginning the work of abolishing the Rates, arii v. , .::!1 aiso tend to cherish in the minds of Englistanen 1.4: ' independence of feeliii4 which every man 011'.! V) feel. The work of abolition must be slow, L. -.t.h, if slow, it would be gradually going on, and w4;ul.i .1 . , much good. There could be no object m. re r . :.ar i lying to an-honest heart than the patroniz i ng •••,;•r1 institution which had for its object the atn?iim.c: ,. . of the condition of the wretched, and the caltiva...o, of 11101:11S. • • Mr. LOCKHART and the CuANrpti.ou o f :i . e „A cnroutitt shortly srke on the same bubj t 1 .- . Sir C. MONCK explain:J. Leave was then given to bring in the Li:l. CohlaalTrlCK OF SUPPLY. The House having te'iclved ittrlf into a co::nv..o tee of the whole House, on. the Supply to he now:. Lto his Majesty for the services of the current yr tr. . i , 1 - The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHP2I%.• moved, that the follownig sums be grantovi : A:11050,000 t.) pay Excheiller hills issued in Isl 6, and au: ;.5 %ode,' lor. I 9,400.51J0 for she same prpoie. 1,4:53,000 in Isiah cilraciicy, for Fachasner ISllls .5 , ! . , 416. to Ireland, and not provided lor• 4,000,000 for Ilse same ptirpog• ' The House then returned, and the Report w•i , .., dered to be brought up to-murrow. .CAPE OF 000 D nom: TRADE ACT. The Bill for amending the above Act, vms rot , ' second time, and ordered to be committed t°,-11 ',"- Mr. LUSHiNGTON brought up the P,...,,”( die proceedings of the Commistimim for 1.c . : Pr i the National Debt ; also the Kr von; of III:: "...: o ' l l l •sioners appointed to superintend the No7ther3 !:.. ' i • bouses.—Adjourned at half-past wan. 1. ..1