Star. — London, England, 1831-02-09 00:00:00

„- l e driven by water, the water.whe.ei of which also worked a mill; t he people preserved the mill and water-wheel harmless, and destroyed the thrashing machine, which they considered to t o the cause of abridging their employment. There was one in. ctnce which occurred , in which the Hindon yeomanry had been con. where there was a great number of people collected together , would not call them the mob, foe he never considered them to be trob if they were peaceable, and not engaged in actual breach of the . N .) He had admitted that they bad been engaged in an illegal 33, but at the time that the yeomanry came up they were passing along . 3 quiet order ; the yeomanry, however, would not suffer them to pro. Ne 6, but, getting them into a narrow lane, the yeomanry took psitions at both ends of the lane, and cut at the men with their ;weals, and actually shot one man who was flying from them across 11,, bells. This ought not to be tolerated in any country. Those i vor men who were wounded were conveyed to Salisbury a distance of id miles; and although the yeomanry stopped on the road to take re. :7.sitment, nct even a drop of water was allowed to the prisoners, s"o, smarting under their wounds, begged in vain to have a mouthful stay their parching thirst. They were thus conveyed, with their sivtods undressed, in the middle of the night, and considerable delay took place before the gaoler could be roused, and It was full three hours after their arrival in the town before surgeons were procured to dress 0-cir wounds. Few of the wounded had been prosecuted, and he (Mr, Uunt) should like to know how it came to pass that the circumstance of rte man being killed had never been reported. There had, it was true, a coroner's inquest sat on the body, but the foreman of the jury was the father of one of the yeomanry, and of course had ~me influence with the jurors. (Cries of ” Hear,:hear.") The vet. was Justifiable Homicide." The Honourable Member neat alluded to the case of a tenant of the Honourable Member far Vaminster, who had .been tried for writing a threatening letter. _ _ _ Hur.t) did not mean to defend the act itself, for he con. sidered that any man who would sit down and write an anonymous threatening letter was a coward, and none else but a coward would do so. lie (Mr. Hunt) had often been threatened by letter, and had Jotters at home to prove, that in one week he had received as many as f.vc letters, threatening him with certain destruction when he was going ..... _ home from the House, because be had spoken on the pension list, but Ile treated them all with contempt. He opened them when they were delivered to him, if they happened to be poet-paid, and generally cosigned them to the flames; but if they happened not to be post paid, he sent them back by the same messenger to Sir Francis Freeling again. The Hon. Member then, at great length, gave a detail of the ease of Isaac Looker and his son, the particulars of which appeared at the time of the trial; in which, after the father had been found guilty, and was sentenced to transportation for life, the son came forward 3 . :d made a confession that he wu the person who had written the letter; :toil the lad, who was 17 years of age, had, therefore, been transported i'r seven years. He begged that the house would give great considers l'‘,7l to this case, and in particular he would claim the most serious at teation of the Attorney-General ; and he hoped, that when the details %ere known, the sentence of transportation would not be carried into effect. The hon. member stated that be had seen the elder Locker, who e . a , a respectable man, and well dressed—(a laugh)—he was as well dressed as any member in that house, and be had also seen the young man when he was a prisoner in the gaol of Devises, in a miserable room, The hon. member animadverted on the conduct of the judge at the ..._ _ trial, and quoted his expressions when in reply to the elder Locker's protestations of innocence. The judge declared that he would not be lieve his solemn declaration, and that he might be thankful that an alter ation had been made in the law, or he would have paid the extreme penalty with his life ; but that as it was, he should be sent from the country for life, and that no one would regret his absence. All the w'rnesses, four in number, who had sworn to his hand-writing, had acknowledged that they were on bad terms with the prisoner ; and there were eleven witnesses who swore that the letter was not in the hand. truing of the prisoner. The situation of the young man who had sacri t'.:ed himself to save his father, was worthy of the highest commenda tion. Had be lived In ancient Rome, or Greece, or Athens, or Sputa, (a laugh.) a monument would have been erected to his memory. ((heat laughter). Yes. a monument would have been erected to his memory, or he would have been crowned with evergreens. (Laughter.) The Honourable Member could attribute this laughing, not to the want of feeling on the pan of the Honourable House, but it must be to his inability to describe the affitir properly. The affair was one that would afford an excellent subject for the poet or the painter—(a laugh) ;it would be exceedingly suitable to be dramatised —(a laugh ); and where was the hard heart that would not melt when the distress of the father and the filial affiction of the son were pour. aged on the stage. The Hon. Member then proceeded to give the par- ticulan of an affray which had taken place between a crowd of labour. MS who were prose dhsgalsog the rood and some Magistrates sad their friends who were returning from hunting, and attacked the labourers sith their hunting whips. This provocation bad issued in one of the magistrates being severely hurt, and the labourers who bad been pro. voted to do him the injury had been tried criminally, and were left for execution. The next case which the htinourable member cited was that of a man named Villas, who had, when in confinenwmk, eon to an attorney to make up his defence, and who had, according le the custom in such cases, been directed to make a full confession, aid to give the attorney the ease in its worst possible shape. The rimer was so poor as to be unable to have an attorney Into the to him, and the poles had actually been intrusted with this shice he kept in his possession three days ; and till= was the confession of the unfortunate prisoner placed in a situation to be used as evident* against him. He (Mr. Hunt) had represented this in the roper quarter, and he felt grateful fcc the result, for his Majesty's Minium. I had commuted the sentence from death to transportation, and be be lieved that the Attorney-General had directed that a like occurrence should never happen again. Until this interference, such was the practiceant disclosurein is Salbur t y o gaol , attorney, that no prisoner in ner th co e uld mak ce e e th t e he m g o a m lo ffimor his clerk (hear.) This was worse than the inquisition. He thanked his Majesty's Ministers for their interference on his representation, and putting an end to the puttee. It was only to be attributed to the act! of tyranny of Country Magistrates. The nature of the modes which he was about to propose was to ask for a general pardon and am. resty fur all the prisoners nodes sentence, who were tried by the Spe. dal Commission. In no Instance had one of them been taken in the acts for which they were tried. They had committed the acts in mobs, and were suffered to depart and the next day only the obnoxious bull viduals were selected , and ihe mark of distinction was generally confined to those who had offended by being reputed poachers. The Hon. Mem ber went into a digression on the baneful effects of the Game Laws, and 1 the temptation for a starving population to transgress these laws. The Honourable Member repeated that the greatest incendiaries were the broken-up farmers. He had conversed with many of them, and ono in particular had stated that when their misfortunes had accumulated upon them, and that they were unable to pay their rents, the landlord had in diced them to remain in their farms, under promises of indulgence; but whenever the crops were ripened the landlords had seised upon them, and rendered the Lumen pennyleas. He (Mr. H.) had found many of that sort In the country, and he could safely assert, that nine-tenths of the tames in the country were in a state of insolvency. The country could net long exist in its present state without coming to a convulsion, and it must have relief. He would newt advocate a convulsion, for be knew fill well, that if every thing came to that crisis, that he boil/ e marked man, would be sure to be brought down on the first day. A laugh.) H e implored his Majesty's Ministers to grant his request, j to think of these facts; and h. was sure that their names would be laudably handed down to posterity. He knew that they had to ceased with the rapacious landlord., and with some others who would ad vise them otherwise: but he hoped that there were few of that tion.—One Judge (at least so it had been reported) had reflected= mercy that had beta shown by his Majesty to some of the convicts. The hon. member hoped that the report was not coerce!, and that no judge would have dared to question the right of his Massy to extend these clement acts of mercy. It had been said that some of these men were not in want; but he would beg leave to read a statement, well authenticated, has a perish in Wiltshire. The statement mentioned one case of s man, with a wife and wen children, who wee in work, sad had an allowance of 5.. a week from the wish ; and another with a wife, who was also in work, had an allowance of Is. Id. per week. It wan contended that the landed interest paid the poor rata; but he (Mr. Hunt) contended that the poor rates fell upon the labour. With the above allowances that he had quoted, those was no mere allowed than twopence halfpenny, and in many instances less than two-pence farthing a-day for subsistence. The greatest mischief in this country •as the way in which labourers were paid—and he begged that the landed interest would take some messuses Wise she booskiss up et Parliament to prevent this mode of payk o to serhig hboosen *so the rates. When he kept a farm, although in the peel& the farm ers wer e p a yi ng only nine shillings pee week, Mt a piffle he net bowing a single labourer en hie farm who had Ism them two Mew and six pence a day. The peer rates am dims paidl by the laborer, and not by the land. Look to the perish of Christ C. , , where se numb kr au t: the shape of ; sad if these rates were not sitsched to the which were the pokes of labour, the land never could pay the amount. He hoped that the House would grant the prayer of his pro posed petition, and not allow SOO of our most valuable labourers to be sacrificed to ie effects of the cursed game laws. He hoped that 31i. nisters would adopt the measure, and he knew that they always had a great majority in that House.—(A latfch.) .He repeated that he knew there were many landlords who would give a very opposite advice, anti one of these, with whom he had conversed, he would take the liberty of describing to the House. This man was for hanging .all the men, and was exceedingly angry with his Majesty for having granted any pardon.—( Hear, hear.)--This man was always preach. ing up to him (Mr. Hunt) to be impolite; and this man, when he sew him once about the time of the Catholic Emancipation 13W.—what was called the Irish Relief Bill—was passed, he (Mr. Hunt) asked him how be approved of the measure • the gentleman was at the moment going out to shoot, and had a double-barrelled gun in his hard ; and he said that such wu his approbation of the measure, that if he met the Duke of Wellington and Mr. Peel, he would not care to blow the brains out of one with the one barrel of his gun, and serve the other in the same way with the other.—(A laugh. ) Yet this gentleman al ways said to him (Mr. Hunt), " Don't be violent ;" and he, also, was one of those who would extend no mercy to unhappy convicts. It had been said that there was a scarcity of corn in the country but be (Mr. Hunt) could assure the house, that between Bath and Bristol he had never in his life seen a larger quantity of corn at this season of the year. The honourable member concluded with moving that an address be forwarded to his Majesty, praying for a pardon and general amnesty to all the prisoners under sentence from the late Special Commissions. There would never be any peace in the country unless the people were convinced that the laws were administereC disinterestedly.— (Cries of question.) Mr. HUME seconded the motion. Mr. G. LAMB, after complimenting the hon. member for Preston for the manner in which he had introduced the motion to the house, proceeded to observe upon the arguments adduced in favour it. The honourable member bed asked if there had been any private communi cation at the office to which he (Mr. Lamb) belonged, declaring that he (Mr. Hunt) acted the part of an incendiary during his visit to the coun try to obtain evidence in support of his motion. Unfortunately it was not necessary that any private letter should have been received upon this subject, for every account from the country gave lamentable proofs of that conduct. Now, what was the object of the modes before the.house ? Why to call on this house to step in between the psesepo. live, and call upon the crown to extend lenity, and grant se =Misty to those persons who had cleated disturbances, and produced disorder in the country. What 1 were they to hold out an encouragement tope:sons to disturb society ? He trusted that they would do no such thing. With respect to the charge brought against Mr Justice Aldersoa, he was sues that he would very shortly prove that there was nothing improper in that learned person's conduct. The Hon. Member then entered into a state. ment of the circumstances of the case of the elder Looker, and am tended that the jury could not have come to any other decision than that which they had come to. With respect to the younger Looker, he could not understand why they were not only to pardon him, but to raise a testimonial to him, and wreath him with Se crown of laurel. Now, what right had the Hon. Member to ex that lenity should be shown to this young man, when he TWO that he had written a letter to a parson threatening to bum his farm, and rip out his b—y guts; (hear.) He hoped the Hon. Member would give up addressing mobs, and confine his observations to that House, where Us talents and abilities would be more effectively employed than in addresses to mobs (hear.) Mr. BENETT begged, in reply to some statements made by the Honourable Member for Preston out of the House. relative to his (Mr. B.'s) conduct, to say that the Honourable Member for Preston was not justified in the observations which he was reported to have made. He (Mr. B.) admitted that he had said upon more occasions than one, that much of the disturbance which bad taken place in the country was owing to the writings of Cobbett and the "etchings of Hunt. (Hear, hear.) The Honourable Member hers entered into an expLusseimi of the dr cumstanas connected with the mob with which he had bun sawed; they ;refused to obey him when be asked them to separate, se that they were not his men, but Mr. Hunt's men : (He* hear, hear.) They said that they would not hurt a hair of his head , but that they would break his thrashing machine, as well es the others. He told them that he would oppose them himself, when they went to break his machine, and that he would not use any hams against them ; but he threatened to take every step possible againstibinn at a future day. He subsequently, upon a threat be i Zmode that wouldhave his blood, pulled out a pistol from his et, and sidil he would have the life of any one who attempted to injure him. He was Immediately struck with a stone, and he attain!, would have shot the um if hecould have seen him. The mob subsequently went toward &podia aim:hint of his, about half a mile off ; he instantly sent for a detachment of the Salisbury Yeomanry, and met the moo, who to. treated into a wood, from which they might have escaped if they pawed; but no, they thought proper to attack the troops ; but it was met until they had been twice or thrice assaulted, that they ;Wthe peasantry, and certainly one man was .. Member, after adverting to the Inquest upon the body of the man who had been killed, observed that some comments had been made en his being the Magistrate who committed these men he trial. This he denied; on the contrary, he was the means of 21 of dross deluded persons being allowed to pat large upon their own rattgokance. Al. though he was the foreman of the grand jury, be never went into the jury-room for two days, when the bills upon which those labourers were indicted, were under anidaation; (beer, hear.) Noe did be give evidence to hang those unfortunate men, as had been said ; on the contrary, when he found th at his evi dence was likely to hang than, he refused to come forward and give this seri of eve. dance : (hear, hoar.) The Honenzable Member that alluded to the conduct of an overeeir in his parish, wham be with bethg accessory to the riots in his neighbourhood. He l d= that the chameter of these riots was so simple as the hon. member foe Preston would Insinuate. Allusion had been made to a person named Barret. Now the overseer before alluded to, gave him a character for honesty, &c. although he knew full well that he was a bad character. The hon. member also alluded to two other persons, and 'hewed that they were not poor or impoverished individuals. Indeed, he only se lected those for prosecution who were above want; and eme of the per sons in question had a very large sans in the Savhip• Bank. This chewed that it was not poverty solely that drove those benridmte in dividuals to commit acts of riot and distutbanos. He admitted that he had ascribed much of these outrages to the wridngs of Mr. Cobbett and the speeches of Mr. Hunt. But how amid he say abasing: on m everywhere he went he heard the names of the boo. member foe and Mr. Cobbett. He was, however, glad to inform the house, that all the persons who had been injured by the Salisbury yeomanry, had recovered, except are man who had been slat dad.—(Laugher.) He denied that the farmers in general had excited the mob to tumult, though there were some instances of misconduct by same of that class. He was happy to my that the goad feeling was not estirely gene from the farming labourers. He had heard them say "We have been down long enough, we will be uppermost now ;" but these wads were spoken in the moment of excitement. Notwitbtatding what had been advanced by some writers to the contrary, he maintained that the Area were over, that the Special Commission had put an end to them. The labourers were not the burners • those people generally creme haw a distance. He could say that be hid not presented any man thronglt ill will ;be felt much reluctance in prosecuting any at all. It na. rosined for the country and the House to judge between the Member ie. Preston and hinessiE That Hon. Gentleman had mad* his statement, and he (Mr. litumett) gave his explanation. The Hos. Member sat down amidst load Aim Mr. J. SMITH elmented dat, out of all the risen in hie neigh bourhood, one only was sawn ter punishment; that am was a no. toeloualy bad saddled wee sentence to be mommetal fee fourteen years. He felt saddled dish in the ms ended of lichens, shoes only were selected for polarises: who had hem bad &imam= ; ass of thaw was a constituent of him own. Almliestiss was made to (Mr. Smith) to interfere on his behalf, but be Asian& to do ei4 arr ac count of his infamy. lie thought that the Goa mment had athened the soundest discretion respecting the pimbhommis maim the *dal commission. It was not the province of the hones is Morin tospact ' log those punishments. Sir J. YORK observed that, after the two brag sponese of the Members for Preston and Wiltshire, be should sat mew much of their time. Those were the parties in this we. The Member tar Pres ton for his party ; the Member for Wiltshire for his perry; and the Government fur all. Good OOP h irso it St ho the Base to Inter fere with punishments? It was the hrm s? ma kines that sae broken, not the Member foe Preston ' s Mae:kiss machine; if k wale, •he do ubted much if that Honourable Member would oonailmene so whitewash them. (Loud laughter.) The endsn was whether this House should contribute to break down the Est of she Constitution. (Hear, bear.) Ho thought that ineladmiary =of the hon member toe Puna had oostelbsted vase ass soy glee to the disturbances. Copse, who tees emiented, wont he a titan* under the same at Hest. hi sidle to 'ribose his labeesse. Os smother occasion he rode a white awry so doubt In order is etresent blineVt" (laughter-) Thn he sailithar he Preston sonlimed se the nprenentativo of the nispomented ; be aim aossidemi bknodf a radical rehearse, salielsg fIR troilibmileme sae s 0•0 01 4 The hen. isember had certainly same asiesslog lodides abasbabilitff he was an admirable span, on of ibe 114.16 roma" te ll' Ms capacity entitled to respect, sod ite hoped am rise wants pay due amesuien to him. He (Ws Joseph) would glee him as mid% which was sot to make long speedos, but to memo hie sendoossie lm 1 1 a precise farm, and not inuoduce so much verbiage, (laugnoes). If he elmeresd this rule, he (Sic Joseph) would net despoil e? waft him shake heads with the adommeey - et that loose, and as erne of the 411, become the intimate ceseimmiss of the hon. and pliant General, the member far Liverpool pond les#ter). Lord 110APETH speed diet die been should receive with cow troy, and Ibsen with atesadon, to the member ter Preston; hot= he admitted this i lse thought dud hes. membee bed bees inlisenced motives of mistaken humanity. There wee us such thing as minim punishment under the Special Commission; any penes who attended to the reports of the trials weld me skis. He would set Jodie* the house against the youth who ha lilisesif Imes artier to save his father; hut, be mil net lama to plies him ohms an Roman and !hiatus sets of virtue. The hoses geoid set who • mockery of justice, by recommending the pardon of all those who had b, en convicted. Under the system of Corn lowa, which noir lonsLely oppressed %hie comity, the labouring clones no doubt suf fered touch; at the same time, that could not justify the outrages of which they were guilty. He should oppose the motion of the steseber for Preston, because he considered it on impolitic interferenoe with the prerogative chile Crown. (Beer, hoer.) Mr. WiELLESLZY hod some load knowledge of eons of the disturbances; application had been mode to bin in wend inotanose,to pi in nrs te o i ne fe r re etto, w ani i n th ted; t ereo he moro C a z:L ause.haf en or belbelf thoon itheminve of r gatio n. :coshe He ntegad owe se pliedthe atrocity of of their conduct. The House shield newer interfere with the attribute of mercy, except under very exwoodinary oecesices. No pent of the conduct of Ministers was more peaksworthy than that wkith related to the Spacial Com missions; Mil they not resort to mane unknown to thel aws, Spaciall"g" there were Precedents for each a nuns, when the country was in a state of excitement ; bat they executed the laws with cle mency and moderation (hear). He did not think that this House would be justified in assuming to itself the exercise of the prerogative of the Crown. _ Thu ifIORNRIfsGENERA L observed, that it came to his lot (Si condua a peessedieo spinet a person named Withers, for an outrage on a magistrate sod montables. He bad determined to give his stmee support to constables amid magistrates in the execution of dal duty, and was, therehea, dsMam to punish persona cambial of violence towards them es utmost sabot. Now this Wickes, he dependently of being embed of a riot s .hlithelleonvicted efallhope He therefor* thought that these was 11111 MIA wood for of the course pursued on ibis maxime. It Les Yes mad= to perceive, that out of 11.• passe who bad been Miedi, - thole wise only three i of the proyeisty al 'boss psithmeot doses imam deals The hon. and learned gestheosaa ben Mood to the ease of Losiet, as. pleasing his surprise at dietheensilliems Moile by Mr. Host, respectiNg the conduct of Judge Abbeys us that ormaka. NSW was there a charge made on so slight a ilaidedem Unless the Judge was infallible, it was shiest impolite Ise Mk to cone to any other conclusion, from the idiom Wass& Mein MIA The lessoureble and learned gentleman here met dowel ilmodimeo, en bas already appeared before the public. fle then sileamel to the conduct of the magistrate and the grand jury, pooling a high solegium on their hum , nity and discretion. At Wincliestet alone,loo persons had been capitally convicted. They had been guilty of crimes to which, by the laws of this country, they should forfeit their lives. It was mistaken humanity to exempt these from punishment. (Hear.) Was the Government to go back to first principles, without reference to the laws under such cir. eumstanotel? (bear, bear.) He then referred to the ease of Cooper, whose conduct deserved his fate. He was surprised to see the paWe prows representing the Goverment as sanguinary. Why, observed he, was mercy to be extended to criminals elope? Were not these whose property and lives had been endangered by their conduct to be considered at all ? (hear. hear.) He then referred to Petitions got in different parts of the country, playing that mercy should be esleeded to those misguided incendiaries who went about at night bunting the property of their neighbours when they could not be detected, espro. misting the conduct of those politicians at downrighr cant: (cheers.), Then was no act of his life whit he would regret leas than the course which be had pursued under the Spoils' Commission. The Honour.' able and Learned Gendentan sat dots amidst cheers. I Mr. SA NFORD opposed the meths Mr. HUME rose to advise the bees. seembei for Poems es withdraw ' his motion.—(Cries of No, no.) This, @barred Mr. Homo, Mr. Hunt should be fairly dealt with, for he did net make his casement with a view to countenance the proceedings of the einem Moo Magistrates, and Lord-Lieutenants of counties had sammosithed the of seal chinery, why should the Aetna be eseeldnied es inall sibri4s cious motives. He would suggest the pespdety of this motion.—( No, no.) Then, observed Mr. Home, I supper the melbaMr. PORTDIAN VMS glad that the loss. somber ibe Proem had brought forward this motion, because he *why nodessived the coun try respecting his sentiments relating to the stets; few the road im pure/on among the lower classes was, that the member for Posies had favoured the proceedings of the rioters. Mr. HUNT replie d that he had ever lent his coneurance to' the proceedings of the rioters. He thought that those who believed that he concurred in such proccedinp would believe in witchcraft. A gallant Admiral had alluded to his calling in life, but be would match his blacking against the gallant Admiral's bilgewater any day s (Laughter.) The gallant Admiral had reprimand him as abe fellow. I am eery, mid Mr. Hunt, that I mann arms be eess pihnent. (Loud laughter.) [As dm He.. Mosher secs proceeding In this reply, there was mach conglimg,asd aim d m fetion] I have beard of this coughing, observed Hr. Hunt, Wire I came Into this House, and I am pretared to men it, but if I ma to be put down by coughing, I will let the people of Ragland .!snow, that when a Member rose in this House le armee their mew they are put down by coughing. (Cries of " No, no I" and " Wym hoar.") I am not sufficiently acquainted with the forms el the Mawr. ob. served he, to know bow I amid Aspens of this maffikb _Miss of divide, divide !) lly fr iend, Method be, advises eititheesMidraerit I have no wish to do so; I wield adia divide, 3 him be left In a mall majority, t r a:timy fdsb st io NI Min s Dail a m the cause which I saves* Rim . , (aim I) ilist, observed he, as the Ilonsi-esemei it, I Alarm II sos mos with their whim -.: . . .. The House divided, when there apparel f i For the soilso, 2 I Against it, 221? I Majority, NM emilletwente re eon SMALL MUM Mr. HUMS mead an address a hie ifisty fee a reeves of the amber of warrants et commitment for debt to the paths of Loins, die degaishing those upon means process and ezereudea open jmilpiesithl = MO. Alm the number of debtors in prises Webb the same Also the number of debtors committed to Whitman-street prima front the courts of request, distinguishing the number of days for which each was committed. The object of the hon. member was to obtain information as to the number of persons annually deprived of liberty for small debts. Mr. H. TWINS ailaded to an order made by the magistrates of Wilts, exclading visitors from the empty pd, and expressed a hope that such order might not extend to the legal advisers of prisoners. Alderman WAITHMAN opposed the motion, being convinced that many persons possessing property went to prison for the purpose of Mil the payment of their debts. Be wished to ask the Attorney. 'Gnu whether a Bill was to be brought in to compel debtors to give up their effects to creditors ? Mr. WARBURTON also spoke in supporter the modem. • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was &thews of en' the subject alluded to by the Hon. Alderman Weight under the of Parliament. The motion foe the Returns was then agreed to. MILITIA. Mr. HUME moved for a Return of the maialme of persona enrolled to servo in the militia, and the number eammiied A e.dh county in Groat Britain. His object was to chew that poososomsee Whs. for sad obliged to fight is the militia who wen apthead airebedesiles fsaim. LMr. HUNT concurred in the hatodea gini ben. member fee Mb dleasx, and when his /dajesty's Miaow& Arwood the MR tin Parliamentary Masa, he eheol4 mere who had seethe elective franchise &aid be WNW from moils it the tallith and the payment of taxes. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Mid his Majesty's Government had motives to justify them in calling oat the militia. The Returns wen then mined. TIOCLANATION Ow TIM LORD LIZOTROANT. O'GORMAN hi ANON , Tieing to make his modem relating to the padamodeas issued by the Lord Lisnteesat does she pawing of the yd eniserful assemblies, said he was indeed se itheit a greater of Sidman of the house than morally fell a theist of elem. =Ts his oitasdos. The breams of the hear and the time width bad been emaplad ia a debate of comidesside ismatease, joked to Ibsen seamy tams of the tegis he was about es Amodase aselesned is con- Irwin While( that he tees soda ciraommseas of diadem- Ile pryed far kohdypate in his unsavoury sapor. (Has th e hes. member to Ail dimieseste ) He thanked hit kess Mead dos amber Limed* fee ids mfr. it woad he_ _Rios ed is baud. (Cry el " Order, ether, ender !") The VW= odd be Noe to io=st width be was sore the hill. snake limed( sail osealis 01101111 AN MASON bowed to dos Achim of the home, but meld Ni wain ideledf out of order. Why should the lab. member for 114amekk sod other bre.,pietabers weer? He knew that helms placed is a maw miewation There was a change in eireemetanass sines be was bale the hewn. He as not out of order. Slit WISTHERRLI. eon to mdse, arid observed that the tone and mesas essamed by the Hon. Member were unusual, sod contrary to the *Asa of die House. His hope was that the gentle representation made brffie drily would have had doe eihnt if not, it was the duty of she Mimeo a rise ageio and insist wpm ads. O'GORMAN MAHON said the Honestrable Mather for Borough. bridge bad called upon the Smokes to rise frees his shale, sod put him down. (Cry of " No, no.") I say be did, said Oliseesen illahm, and let any man steed &tweed and ay be dad not. (Lad exthemodeos of tf Other, other I") The SPZAKER—Let the Hon. Gentleman understand, that when I *MI leeward to laterropt any gentleman's speech, Ide It in a man ner sobbed by the greatest laity. The Bea. Member, 1 hope. will am bibs oweeptioa to these who believe I never hoofers when a mem. ber is sat wet of other. I hope he will take the hint, sad net call on Imam titulary a mere direct duty (bear.) O'GORMAN MAHON thanked the Speaker he not declaring him net of ether. The Speaker had given lies Air pla , knowing this he had aot been guilty of any Atm The and Leaned Masher fee Boreoghbeidge, menetemed in hb peclessies to revert lath, bad declared him so Wester order..--(Cey of Chair, Chair. ' 'The SPIMIMEIL—The boa. meadow, A the last sentences be at bolds vs alig44l eaves greseds. In the kW plan, be was dialling ; to a abbess as Were the hose; mid @seemly, he was yarning difolg o lCZ N ihe lenliNsiend coothoes of so hos easeehm. II dfi11....11•13, dies I have does with the weber for liamtedelthige. We shall meet agele.....(older, ceder.) The SPRAKER....If the boo. member does not feel, I hope Cie beam will feel what ls due to hs oa n dignity. I claim nothing for my. coif personally, but I clan, respect for the dignity of the house and the chair. 1 tell the how member again he woe out of order on both occa sions, and I must impress upon the ben. member that this house has neva been in the bait of submkting to the manner ha which he is now adthessing them, without the Speaker giving notice to the lion. member out of order to retrace his steps. 1f he perseveres, the Speaker will take the course which belongs to him. The hon. member will ire called by name, and brought before the house. He will then be obliged to an swer for hie misconduct. O'GORMAN MAHON, after the denunciatiation he had heard, did not know whether he ought not to consider himself a person arreigued at the bar of that house. He wished to know in whir character he ad dressed the house. If he had violated the laws and mules of the house he was a criminal, and not a free representative of his constituents. He admitted that be might have been wronir in the Boroughbridge case *—(a laugh)—but the member for Limerick had not tr,:at.:l him fairly. How could he in future tall that boo. member his hen. friend ? He still believed he had not been guilty of a breach of order. Having taken Ms seat, waiting for some further intimation from the Chair, the &maim called upon him, in the usual manna, for his motion. O'GORMAN MAHON then rose to call the attention of the House to the SUM of Ireland. He wished to know whether Ireland was to regard the promat Ministers as friends or foes to Ireland. The docu ments Mir which be .bald move were but of little importance i.l themselves, and be mellesed he should make his motion 'nerdy for the pete it haven an opportunity of learning the reit. titans if ihdllll44. lie question of the Union he cott,iderett alt elided in as fat as &gland had a voice, but he wished to low, whether recondlidimlilitibe had mcounte to, or whether Ire. boll WS to be dalysdtiti blood. The excitation in itela:3l was such, NI Natal, that be demid not attempt to describe it. The Irish were detemibied tin bevies $ home legislature, such as they had thirty mem eles He whholl le know, in the name of IreLuitt, what course ma as be adopted f Roe that Union to be repealed, which in the lemptage of a amble ad, bad been brought about by cruel. y. owe,. don, and fond? (The hon.! gentleman then made a Satiety of re marks respecting the state of England and the late Special Commis sions, but it was utterly impossible to follow him. Having ttequently used the expression " Gracious don !" he was called to order by 31r.H. Hughes.) Nothing' could be further from his intention the'. to speak irreverently of the Deity, and his having been educated at the Jesuits' College might be a surety for his being animated by that feeli. g. Eng lish members spoke of the disuess of England, and thought it hard that only be, a week, or 7s. a week, should be given to labourer, ; but w hat was the save of Ireland? Why, in a parish in Sligo 3,031 individuals were without a meal of food. This he stated upon the authority of evi dence given upon oath before two magistrates. Upon that evidence he Maid OM time 3,031 individuals had been without the means of suste- MAilies the 10th of January. (Laughter.) His own county a as in the NM SIMS oteggalling misery, and the Irish labourers could be gl.ta of IL a arm wages. but that they could not get. Now was the tome at which . seempronilie might be effected, but in a st:ort time it would b. impossible. He spoke upon peculiar information. which he a10..e pos sessed, and which no Government colt Id get at. The English were dip trusted in Ireland, and such ought to be the case. Through the thiluene-3 of one man only could the compromise be (reeled, and it must be to the effect that the Parliament should he held one year in Ireland and the other year in England. (Laughter.) Such was the ewe, and nothing short Ma empromise could continue the Colon between Ireland and England. The poor creatures, who were five feet under the ttnow, would bear of no other terms. He called upon the House to do its gest to effect the compromise. At the beginning of the Session there was but one 'Dent ine in favour of the repeal of the Union ; but he again said, as he had said before, that unless terms were now made, there wou'd be twenty Irish County Members calling for the repeal of that met sure. Other nations, France, Holland, wed Russia, hsd been fatally deaf to the voice of warning, and he implored the House not to follow so wretched an example. He spoke now, perhaps at the last hour, and he conjured the House to act upon his advice. If del. web of the case, Ireland would separate herself from England ; and much as he wished for the maintenance of the connection with England, be would attend the call of his country. A violation of the constitution, committed by the late Government, had secured Ireland to England for a year, but that violation must be followed up by a further compromise, or Ireland would stand alone ; or if retained could be retained only amidst a thine of blood. He admired and eulogised the conduct of the late Secretary for Ireland (Sir H. Hardinge) : that conduct was natural; but Ireland bad a right to expect something more from the present Ministers.— from a Whig and Liberal Administration Ireland had a right to ex pm much ; and be wished to know what Ministers proposed to do ? He condemned, vehemently condemned, the conduct - of the Nisei'. trates and their creatures in Ireland with respect to the surest of the Honourable Member for : Waterford. The : comma courtesy of civilised society required very different treatment to that which had been offered to Mr. O'ConnelL But the insults offered to that Honourable Gentleman did not appear to be enough. Where was the Honourable Member for Waterford ? Why was he not in his place to do his duty to his constituents ? Why, he had been detained under the ,quibble of a law —a law which had been cha racterised by the Lord High Chancellor of England as unconsti tutional. The sante had been said by all the Whigs, and he put it to the house to say whether It meant to do any thing more than to suppress the Catholic Association, when it agreed to that offensive Act? This was the case, and yet under that unconstitadonal Act every society for the benefit of Ireland was to be suppressed by a liberal and all• profaning Government. In England the dissolution of the two mint:ie. *as un popular, in Ireland it was all popular. In Roecommon, the whole county had declared for the repeal Oche Union; the archiepiscopal city of Ar magh had done the same. The same sentiment prevailed in Meath. Lo..t , his own county, and in Tipperary ; but the bon. member tot Tii-peigry might speak for himself upon the state of his county. The I o curable member again adverted ;to the late disturbances in England, a id raid there had been ambles of the sort in Ireland, with all its wrongs aid all its miseries. In hard all was peace, but the determination of the people on the repeal of the Mimi was not lees sincere, and they had authority with then Madura been the declaration of Lord Grey ? Tnat nobleman had 'imbed, opposed the union, and predicted that it never could be sustaieed. Thi m c w:s the case with respect to Lard Plunkett. Thet asin; bed even further. In his enthashen he had said that, lib. Ilindbek. would swear his children at the altar to hostility to. the fain of his country, and these lots were the English who head the Union upon Ireland. Would any one deny • this ? The sea of Led Grey was present, would be deny it ? A son of Lard Makes atighe be realm forsane ream bennO, lot ought he knew to the costery, and if so, would he deay it ? These Ira. facts, and he can Owe to state them, bat when he get up to do en ' he was cdled to eider by the bemmembee for ponsOrd it e. 1 i i.e thrust his in formation apes des hen. mem* pasensery—taught the ll S =t ben. member by Ms habillmeate, for the wearing of w:ticit he weedied and thens.-thet be then might have been Judy to of the has. member. Teen Judge Jobb aid hip bed aloe declared drooilves to be adverse to the Wei whoa It woe propessi let the ermine bed a wonderful power, and made an it easy. Sash had been the whams Others Judgts, and yet ley woe wag limp Julia whoDierst pat des seammaitutispal Act et Imient lem km. They was to try Os hen taanber for Water. bid. Win he 'psis of a semainiet kiss elfin*. heal net mean to pidye hinself*lbe sasses ef sans merate,;he mostly then it sot as a hint—he epee VW it wadi be head that the time rise any tame ahem of a tithe Union bad peeled away. Of this he was cenliams, that there was bat sae man in Ina* who meld make coma, aid that seas bad bees most gesesly and simmedelly booked by the low prenatal, of the 11.agisames of a (Az: He had been taken into esmody by vile thief-Wm% sed diet set hmeleelabie mischief bad been done. But pond* eons *Mu trOsseell wee, It wield be ef ass avail, if he gaps}* lon then the cargesmise he bed vesedesed. If he did so. be "mild he boded from tilt persimsky Ise at pent enjoyed, he wee* be MONA es a traitor, and be weld be sameated at* trampled= des wheep d belied. Thebes heel ef the whole open him sad be wield benstroped. This was the = I L spirit of Ireland was reused, sod It amid net be suppressed. He knew this to be the case, sad he boa buteemona, as the late pension' keen, which no penmen email hems= siesta of. He warted the house of the 'iamb's et is Inland i sod he would stile ale fact, which stun as. prcially to call forth the spirit el cesediatin which he elledeal. lie had been for eleven pan and a half a member of seek" =day which had fur is object the repeal of the Vaasa. This nail claw sone beam hew Irishmen felt, and what was)lssie esseradastia. Who he bed Met add: awed the Home he bad set been plessised se ens this feet, bet now be had authority to de es. The Increased*" ilecisty, and its ezistence, bad bees kept assall, bet when it wmillesegl rat the whey of Ireland, Orangemen ' batty tains, read all, hail the same seem= object, the Society was dissolved. The people bed when up she opnetise, and a secret society upon it was as Maass essahni. Me weed these facts for the information of the House and Goomanrem, and to show the Nate of Ireland. lie mod not what the esemenems of making such a declaration might be Is himself. if he were net tee insignificant, be might find himself oe the way to the Town or to Newsom to-menew esomag ; but he eared am. In England there was a Comeitetien ; in Wand there was name. He had been 'estataasaed but a few days slant tai Costs of Lieg's Bench is Dublin, and when be aide* at the eater doers he fesad them not. He was intenegated, and "NOW " giTte t address, same, sad business bane he teak pia adadielen t avd he asked, would be said if each a eremedieg &said sobs place in Beg. land ? la Eeglaad the people NW most and Maws matters, ,bat la Inked they could do to such May. The Libra's Deplore I•Depoty, with the authority ef a bit ee penmen *di the benne , was probably sanely able to treed, might enter my meeting and Om lade, it. A Caepeatisa Idepetrate detird le kind *deb as Centitatioadid amain the Wog to de.. Why, V pm. Inman wee sit ny 6 Dills, the Shmee 'a Thest_T ailsolle • .ea the Hoene O Gesseesni aid damn she members to disymes, NAN pan 980 a saadoli they 'Nadeau*** !Oft Ser lie iehasess.lha. .. raids el them might be Mks MI se thf nt, and anodised torsi See • dna iialtha. Noe was thee Aim If lifilidr ma . these candies might be laid, an eon to pima A N N s ib fain rebel.' 1 1 t, K,li l ( 1 ' 1,