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CONTRACTS FOR WHEAT, COCOA, PORT WINES, IRON HOOPS, &c. VICTUALLING OFFICE, March 24, 1831. fr H E COMMISSIONERS for VICTUALLING his MAJESTY'S IVAVY,tc. do hereby give Notice, That on WIDNZIMAY, the 50th Instant, they will be ready to receive Tenders in writing (sealed up), and treat for the supply of the following Articles to be delivered into his Majesty's Victualling Stores at Deptford, viz. ARTICLE. QUANTITY. Wheat, Red .. 3,600 Quarters Ditto White ... 800 Quarters (to weigh 60 lbs. to the Bushel), Tobacco .. ... 20 Tons I One half of each Peas .... .. 500 Quarters by the 30th day of Oatmeal .. ... 20 Tons April next, and the Cocoa .... ... 30 Tons remainder by the Sugar .... ... 100 Tons 31st day of May fol- Good sound, full- 5,000 Gallons lowing. bodied Port Wine, (One-half in Pipes, for medical pur- and the remainder poses .... .. in Hogsheads) , New Iron Hoops. I One. half to be deli- Vat .. ... . . 30 Tons vered by the 31st at Butt ... .. 80 Tons May next, and there. Stout Plate .. 40 Tons mainder by the 31st Slight Plate .... 150 Tons Jof July following. PERIOD 07 DI:LIMIT. Samples of the Wheat, Peas, Oatmeal, Cocoa. and Port Wine, must be produced by the party tendering ; but those for Tobacco, Sugar, and Iron Hoops, together with the Conditions of the Con tracts, may be seen at this Office. Each 'fender must specify the price in words at length, and be de livtrcd before One o'Clock on the Day appointed; and the Person who makes the Tender, or some Person on his behalf, must attend to .n.wer when called for. M. WALLER CLIFTON. AT a MEETING of the MERCHANTS, BANKERS, and TRADERS of the CITY of LONDON, held at the Mansion-House, on Friday, the 25th of March instant, for the purpose of considering the propriety of expressing their approbation of the prin. ciple of the Bill of Itefoim submitted by his Majesty's Ministers to the House of Commons, and of adopting such measures as may appear to the Meeting best calculated for carrying the same into effect. It was Moved by Joint SMIIIII. Esq. Al, P. and Seconded by ANDRIW H. THOMON, Esq. Deputy Governor of the Bank of England, and carried with two dissentient voice% That having perused with feelings of unmingled satisfaction, the Bill recently submitted by his 3lajesty's Ministers to the Legislature for the purpose of effecting a Reform in the existing Representation of the People in Parliament, which Bill received the sanction of the House of Commons on Its second reading on the 23d instant; this Meeting herby declare their approbation of the principle of the said Bill, which has for its object the correction of acknowledged abuses, and is pre-eminently calculated to strengthen and support the founda tion of that Constitution under which the King holds his title to the Throne, and ourselves and the rest of our fellow-subjects, our security in the various possessions and immunities which we enjoy by law— a me tsure which in our consciences we believe to be wise in its origin, calculated tO maintain the peace of the country, and, above all, to up. hold and invigorate the great institutions of the British Empire. It was Moved by Sir JoHN IVILLIAM LUBBOCK, Bart. Seconded by LEWIS LOYD, Esq. and carried with one dissentient voice, That this Meeting feel the deepest sense of gratitude and affection to our Beloved and Gracious Sovereign, for giving his Royal sanction to his Aliniateis in bringing forward a plan so much in accordance with the wishes of the people, and with the legitimate principles of the Con stitution. Moved by 31r. Alderman VENARLES and seconded by EDMOND CALVERT, Esq. and carried with one dissentient voice, That this meeting pledge themselves to support, to the utmost of their power, the Bill which his 3lajesty's Ministers have thus intro. duced, and to exert all constitutional means to obtain its adoption by both Houses of Parliament. Moved by ROBERT RICKARDS, Esq. and seconded by ISAAC SOLI.Y, Esq. and carried with one dissentient voice, That an Humble Address to his Majesty, and Petitions to both the Houses of Lords and Commons be presented, founded on the foregoing Resolutions. An Address to his Majesty and Petitions to the Houses of Lords and Commons having been produced by Pascoe Grenfell, Emu and read, It was moved by PASCOE GRENFELL, Esq. seconded by WM. CRAW FORD, Esq. and carried with one dissentient. voice. That the said Address and Petitions be adopted and signed u the Address and Petitions of this Meeting, and that the Lord Mayor, se ea,Dpinied by any number of persons now present, to be selected by his L.rdship, do present the said Address to the King at the earliest op portunity. Moved by GEO. GROTE, Eq. seconded by GEo. WARD NORMAN*, Esq. . . . . . (Bank Director) and carried witl: one dissentient voice, That the Marquis of Lansdown and John Smith, Esq. M.P. be re quested to present the said Petitions respectively to the two Houses of Parliament. Moved by JAmts PATTESON. jun. Esq. (Bank Director) seconded by WILLIAM ROWTH. Esq. and carried unanimously, That the Thanks of this Meeting be given to the Right Honourable the Lord Mayor, for having accommodated this Meeting with the use of the Mar sion House, and for his able and impartial conduct in the Chair on this occasion. It was moved, seconded, and carried unanimously, That the Thanks of this Meeting be given to Mr. Alderman Wood, Mr. Alderman Waithmsn, and Mr. Alderman Thompson, three of the Representatives of the City of London, for the support they have given in the House of Commons to the Bill for Reforming the existing Re presentation of the People in Parliament. (Signed) JOHN KEY, Lord Mayor, Chairman. LITERATURE. Lady's Magazine for March. A good portrait of our justly popular Monarch adorns this Number, besides whole lengths of six young Ladies in the most fashionable attire The letter-press contains an excellent letter on the History of Music, s I ich we arc happy to observe is to be one of a series. There are se. veral pretty Meer', of poetry, by the Miss Strickland, and others.—The rev it w part of this \,agazir•.e iv well executed and introduces many curious works ro the notice of its readers. We may refer to the re view of Mr. Kent.cdy's Poems. and the account of the controversy be mein the late Dr. Thompson cf Edinburgh and Mr. Erskine, on the sviiijitt of Universal Redemption. The Scientific Gazelle. This is one of the cheapest treats fur all who arc anxious to keep their intelligence in the various branches of Science up to the standard of the day. The early numbers of this work have all been judiciously edged, and had not the Parliamentary proceedings occupied so much of oar space lately, we should have made many extracts from its pages; and in future we 411411 occasionally do so. For the small price of 4d. at have a review of scientific works, analyses of the scientific journals, accounts of the literary and scientilie societies through Europe, and notices of every discovery. Were we the Editor we should not admit nitich general literature, as the more the contents agree with the title the Letter. Epdtotne rf Literaturc.—Vol : 1, Paley's Moral and Political Philosophy. This is the first vol. of a Series of the most popular productions of ;at eminent Historians, Philosophers, &c. the Editors of which in tend to prune luxuriances and remove blemishes, by the rejection of Arl.st is superfluous in matter or quaint in style, while they retain all 1::at is ustfttlund interesting by a system of Concentration. To the plan this novel undertaking, which seems not unlikely to produce a new sera •.11t,rature,:our attention has been forcibly drawn by the perusal of " Pa ley's Metal a‘ll Political Philosophy," which forms the first volume of the Philosophical Series. This has been condensed within about half hie cxtent of the original; and as till the arguments are nevertheless pre , ;erverl, and even the very words of the author when they best convey his ideas, we cork:rand:4e our readers, and especially the youth of both \ es, on the facility with which they may thus become acquainted with rtiliors npulsit from their bulk alone, at a comparatively little cost of time as well as price. The Dramatic Magazine. Every admirer of the Drama—and he that is not, we pronounce, de ti tent in mental capability —must be pleased that a Journal exists exclusively dedicated to its interests. We do not remember a llama tic Periodical so well conducted, sine:. the days of Anthony Paquin. There is a plate, well engraved, of Maeready, in the character of Henry bth—and of Mrs. Glover. Library of the Fine Arta. ARNOLD. This is a magazine which has long been wanted, and we are happy to see that ; _t'eficiency strong our monthly periodicals is so well sup. plied.; It is intentkal, besides a melange of original essay and tor.' respondence on th 2 Fine Arts, to include in every number a portion of some work of established character—such, for instance, as the Dia. Courses of Sir Joshua Reynolds, which arc comnienced and will be conti hued until et mplete. This is a part of the plan we do not much ad mire, and se think that the magazine alone would lave obtained ade %nate support without this make-weight kind of addition. Works brought out i na i n piete•mcal arc of little value, and really m all work. ut established t, arc now to be had to cheap, that this ode of re-! ~~~ No. 13,744. printing them is supererogatory. The miscellaneous part of the maga zine is excellent, and we recommend it to the amateurs of the arts, as a useful medium of communication on all that is interesting to the painter, sculptor, architect, and engraver. Panorama of Hobart Town. We were invited last week to a private view of Mr. Burford's new panorama of Hobart Town, and were by it both instructed and de. lighted. We have now in our mind's eye an accurate notion of the character of that distant hind, much more accurate than any to be con veyed by description. No discovery ill the Arts equals, we think, for instruction, that of panoramic and dioramic painting . What a magical power, to bring into this metropolis all the great cities, not only in Europe, but over the globe ! The Voice of Hussanity : for the Communication and Discussion of all Subjects relative to the Conduct stf Man, towards the Inferior Animal Creation, Published Quarterly. By J. NISBET. In not noticing works kindly placed before us for remark, we are sometimes guilty of negligence ; but in delaying to notice the " Voice of Humanity," we consider ourselves guilty of a sin—a serious sin of omission. This quarterly Periodical is intended " for the communi cation and discussion of all subjects, relative to the conduct of man towards the inferior Animal Creation ;" and the work is carried on by the pecuniary subscription of such humane individuals who in their active beneficence, include the protection of the animal creation. It is well known, that a society exists in this metropolis, to render this species of beneficence efficient by co-operation ; and the exertions of Mr. LEWIS GOMPERTZ, and others of this praiseworthy association, have been of essential service in checking the brutality of drovers, coachmen, and carters, as well as checking the perpetration of barbarities of various other kinds. We are sincere well-wishers to this society ; and if this meet the eye of any of its managers, we wish them to understand, that the columns of the STAR shall al ways be open to the assistance of their object. The first paper in this number is on the ".abominable nuisance" of Smithfield, as it was properly designated by the City Remembrancer. How strangely—how perversely slow, is sometimes the progress of improvement. It appears, that for no less than ten successive years, have attempts been made in Parlia ment to remove Smithfield, and all have proved unsuccessful. Nothing can be more absurd, and, as is proved here, pro ductive of cruelty, extravagant waste, and every species of inconvenience, than driving all the cattle required for the supply of this immense carnivorous population, to ONR small spot to be again re-driven to be slaughtered and tor tured in all parts of the town, without regulation as to the mode of depriving the poor animals of life. The advantages of different well-arranged extensive markets, of which the one lately formed at Bristol might be an excellent model ; and near to these markets having establishments for slaugh tering similar to the Continental Abbattoirs, is so great and palpable, that we blush for such men as Aldermen WAITII 31AN and WOOD, in being so governed by local interests and prejudice, as to take an active part in opposition to so evident an improvement. It was courting popularity at the expense of humanity—in other words selling themselves to the Devil. We always admired the late Lord Erskine, but for no thing more than the directing the energies of his great mind, to legislate for the protection of the animal creation. He was unsuccessful ; but a law has since been made, through the exertion of a less important, but well-meaning Senator. Its provisions are imperfect, and an improved bill is proposed in this number. The following extracts from a paper "on National tastes respecting animal food" we think will amuse our readers. NATIONAL TASTES RESPECTING ANIMAL FooD.—Rvcry thing that moves in earth, air, or sea, is devoured by man. In some valleys of the Alps (kingdom of Wurtemberg), and in particular that called Lawherelt, the rearing of snails has been carried to a large scale.— Towards the end of June they are gathered from fields and forests by children and poor people, and sold by the hundred to the snailmongers for from four to five cruzers (five to seven farthings). They are then put into large grass gardens, and fed in rainy weather with cabbage. leaves and other vegetables. When they shut themselves in the month of ,September, they arc sent down the Danube to Vienna and Hungary. Many of the snailmongers carry more than eighty thousand with them, which, In winter, are sold for two or three florins the hundred, as an nr ticle of luxuriant food. In South America nothing in the shape of life comes wrong to them—they eat serpents, lizards, and ounces ; and Humboldt has s,:en children drag enormous centipedes out of their holes, and cranch them up. At Einerahli their delicate morceau is a roasted monkey. Puppies on the Missouri and Mississippi, are choice food. Horse flesh in Arabia ; elephants' flesh in India; camels' fie.h in F,gypt. The Pariahs of Hindostan contend for putrid carrion with dogs, vultures, and kites. The Chinese devour cats, dogs, rats, and serpents ; bears' paws, birds' nests, and sat shy, arc dainty bits. The inhabitants of Cochin China prefer rotten eggs to fresh. The Tonqui. ncse and inhabitants of Madagascar prefer locusts :to the finest fish.— In Australia a good fat gull would be preferred to every thing else ; and in the West Indics a large caterpillar found on the palm is esteemed a luxury, while the edible nests of the Java swallow are so rich a dainty that the ingredients of the dish will cost fifteen pounds. The quantity of frogs seen in the markets of the Continent is immense. At Terra.- eina the host asks his guest whether he prefers the eel of the hedge or that of the river. The astronomer De la Lande was remarkably fond of spiders. (treat Britain ever transcends her continental neighbour,. The " !nasty" of Scotland is putrid mutton, the *limp having died of the rot ; game and venison is seldom relished till it is " high," or, in honest language, till it is a mass of putrefaction, disengaging in abun dance one of the most septic poisons the chymist knows of, is numerous cases it is a mass of life and motion, the offspring of putridity. Pigs are still whipped to death ; lobsters are boiled alive ; cod are crimped ; eels arc skinned, writhing in agony ; hares are hunted to death, and white veal is the greatest luxury. Attached to this little collection of facts, on national tastes, are sixteen reasons for renouncing animal food, which we recognise to be from the " Social Philosophy" of Sir RICHARD PHILLIPS—a work which contains more prac tical good sense, than any which has for some years issued from the press. WRITE VEAL. Calves are those unfortunate animals which, in this Christian coun try, are doomed to "die more painfully, that man may live more luxuriously." We have received different heart-rending statements respecting the cruelties practised upon them, which commence imme diately as they enter the slaughterhouse, and terminate only with the last agonized groan. The preparatory bleedings, often repeated twice a day, are so profuse, that the calf falls down on the ground from faint ness and exhaustion. instead of pity or compassion in the breast of a slaughterma: , , the treatment that ensues is pinching and twisting the tail, and beating or kicking it, to make it rime. The average time. which varies, from the convenience and caprice of the butcher, be tween the calf leaving the dairy to enter the slaughter-house and the termination of its sufferings, is four days. Some of our Correspondents who reside near slaughter-houses state, that day by day they can re cognize the different degrees of exhaustion from these bleedings, in the altered sound of their moans, becoming more and more faint, till at length they express, unequivocally, the truest anguish. Complaining to the butcher is certain to induce an additional torment—that of tying up the mouth closely with curd, or securing it by a buckle-strap, to pass round the head, which is usually adopted. When the ultimatum of torture arrives, suspended by the hind-legs, with one hook through the nostrils and another hook through the tail, to keep the neck in a bent position, to bleed to death, we find, in the bundle of communications lying before us on the subject, that some of the fashionable butchers are nut behind our theoretical and experimental surgeons in ingenuity of torture, in their manufacture of white veal. We hear of the process of flaying or skinning being commenced before the calf is dead, to judge whether the Beth be sufficiently white, or TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 29, 1831. PRICE 71). whether, by checking the vital stream, it should bleed to death as slowly as possible, drop by drop ,to produce a sufficient degree of white ness. If our Legislature, disregarding the convenience and caprice of butchers, were to enact, that before the termination of that day on which a calf was taken to the slaughter-house, it should be stunned by a blow upon the head, after which the throat to be cut—we should then have true reason to congratulate our country on the advancement of hu manity. EFFECT OF STEAM-COACHES. We doubt whether our labours to accomplish either of the objects of this publication, if ever so successful, could produce such complete miti gation (rather abolition) of animal suffering as the substitution of loco. motive machinery for th e inhuman, merciless treatment of horses in our stage.coacites. The man who started the first steam.carriage-was the greatest benefactor to the cause of humanity the world ever had. But 'in apolitical view the subject is very important. We have a supcia. bunOant population with a very limited territory, while each [horse re quires a greater quantity of land than would be sufficient to support e man. How extensive then would be the beneficial effect of with- I drawing two-thirds of the horses and appropriating the lard requiredl for them to the rearing of cattle and to agricultural produce ? Tie Liverpool and Manchester steam-coaches have driven 14 horse coaches off the road. Bach of the coaches employed 12 horses, there being three stages, and a change of four horses each stage. The total horses employed by these coaches was therefore 168. Now each horse consumes, on an average, in pasture, hay and corn, annually. the pro duce of one and • half acres. The whole would thus consume the produce of 252 acres of land. Suppose, therefore, " every man had his acre" upon which to rear his family, which some politicians have deemed sufficient, the maintenance of 252 families is wined to the country by these steam coaches. The average number in families is six' that is, four children, besides the father and mother. The subsist. ence of 1512 individuals is thus attained. WII Y AND BECA USE.—No. IV. (Imitated from the Rev. David Blair.) WHY is a law proposed to enable parishes to send able bodied labourers out of the country ? BECAUSE rents, taxes, tythes, and other assessments, disable the farmers from paying labourers a subsisting price, by which the terms labourer and pauper have become syno nimons. Win. have they become synonimous of late years? Seca USE those charges have been continually increasing, and hence instead of paying labourers the twentieth of the price of a quarter of wheat per day, as was formerly and anciently the practice, the payment is either the fortieth or fiftieth, or the farmers cannot afford to employ them at all. Hence every labourer is either a constant dependant on the parish or in certain months of the year. WIFT are there more labourers than can find employ ment ? BECAUSE, the farmers cannot afford to employ so many on the same land even at a reduced price, and because there are fewer farmers, and the smaller farmers have themselves, in being reduced to the rank of labourers, increased the number of labourers. WII Y have the number of farms been reduced? BECAUSE large farms, let to speculating agriculturalists, produce higher rents, and pay with greater certainty, and improved rents were necessa•ry to enable the land owners to pay the increased taxes and maintain their former incomes. . . WII V has this system, which is thirty or forty years old, produced such disastrous effects within a few years ? BEC A USE Peel's Bill and the curtailment of the currency, deprived occupiers of land of their usual means of cultivat ing; their farms, and their first reductions fell on labour, in which there was the greatest competition and least power of reaction. WHY has not corn, and other agricultural produce, fallen proportionally ? 13EcAtrsE corn is protected by a Corn Bill, and rents are governed by the price of corn, other assessments by rents, and other produce by the price of the staple corn. Hence an artificial price is maintained for produce, while labour sustained by no artifice, is reduced to the general high worth of the currency. WHY is not the Corn Bill repealed ? BECAUSE land owners, and all who live on the assess ments on land, require it either to keep up rents for their indulgence, or to cover the interest of mortgagee, and these parties are t rong enough in Parliament to maintain an arti ficial price of land and its products ..vhile all other prices are reduced. WII Y are not farms multiplied ? BECAUSE every farm requires a farm house, and between 1790 and 1810, these were generally pulled down, and the small farms laid into large ones at higher rents than little farmers could afford to pay. WHY are such speculations permitted in land, Being that the land is the country itself, and the basis of subsistence and society, in regard to which all other concerns are subor dinate and artificial ? BECAUSE land is deemed property, and the public in terests were not saved in the maxim that every proprietor has an individual right to do as he pleases with his property, to let it run waste and starve the country if it so pleases him, or to let it to one or many. Y has no protection been afforded on so vital a sub ject—why were not the laws of the Tudors restored, for se curing to the population such a subdivision of the land as enabled it to provide for the independent subsistence of the greatest number? BECAUSE the magnitude of the evil as not duly felt till Peel's Bill reduced the currency, and disabled the agricul tural speculators from employing so many hands; besides the rapid increase of taxes rendered it more convenient to take the chalice of evils than to retard the speculative rise of' rents. Wil Y are not the corrections of these evils, by increased taxes and assessments on large farms, and a repeal of Peel's Bill, preferred to sending the manual strength of the country out of it ? BECAUSE this is the shortest courfe, and the only security for existing monopolies in land and money. ti Y are these monopolies preferred to the able-bodied population. Tl,e strength of a nation does not consist in monopolies a n d monopolists—are there not fifteen or twenty acres to even• family in the United Kingdom—are there not from 60 to 70 millions of cultivated acres to three and a half millions Of fmnilies ? BF CA U:4.1 the Monopolists are the most concentrated and powerful party ; because certain theories govern legislation about over population, &c. &c. and because some meta physical end of society is imagined beyond the mere sub sistence and comfort of the individuals who compose the community. Wit v i 3 it proposed to expend the poor rates in transport ing the Ale bodied, when the helpless young and old are the legitimate objects and absorbents of those rates ? BECA use it is a short course to get rid of an immediate evil, and more convenient to trust to the chapter of accidents I in regard to the immediate objects of the poor rates. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF MARS, ,Lance 28. The Earl of ROSSLYN presented a petition from the M vha•lts Edinburgh, against the Bast India monopoly. ILIEVORM PETITIONS. Petitions in favour *of Reform in Parliament, were presented by the Marquis of Cleveland from Shields; Lord Montague from Dionfri. a ; the I)uke of Argyle, from the Borough of Campbeltown ; Lord from several towns in Scotland ; and the Marquis of Lansdowne fro.:l Coleman.street Ward, in the City of London. The Duke of BUCKINGHAM was desirous of knowing whether any specific plan was to be adored for the examination of psi io.•. It was important that their Lordships should know how many were ttw the Bill, because many wire for Reform, without any distinct plats, whilst others called for Reform, with reducthat of taxation, anti alts Lion of the tithe system. The Marquis of CLEVEL IND aaitl, all the petitions he had I.re. seined were for the measure of Reform introducal by his hlaj.rty's Government. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE also observed, that three out ..1 four of the petitions he had presented were for the Reform under ch•- cusaion in the other house. Earl GREY had no objection to the appointment of a Committee to examine petitions if the Noble Marquis wished that course to be taken; at the same time be held a paper purporting to be an account of the number of petitions laid on their table. The account had been kept by the Clerks of the House. It appeared that 479 petitions, praying for Reform, were presented before the present measure was brought before Parliament ; and since its introduction to the House of Commons they had received 488 in favour of the Bill. If the Noble Duke could trust to the accuracy of the clerks, a further account might be made out of the object of each petition. The Duke of BUCKINGHAM said he had not been apprised that any account could be taken of the patticular objects in each petition. SUBLETTING ACT. Lord M ELBOURNE postponed the committee on the subletting act to the iirst open day after the holulats. The Earl of WICKLOU said the persons Interested in tl'e bill were looking with great anxiety to the result, al., it was desirable that they should know u soon as possible what w i fe th e alterations proposed by the t utile lord. Lord PLUNKETT admitted that the bill was Important, and thought there was no ground to impute delay in bringing it before Parliament. The Earl of WINCH ILSEA presented a petition from the county of Kent, signed by the High Sheriff, at a numerous meeting of free hold es in favour of reform. The petitioners prayed that Hight Ho nourable House to pass the great and glorious work of his 3Majesty's ministers without making any alteration, and thcteby gain the affection and confidence of the people. The noble earl said the petition was only signed by the high sheriff, but it spoke the unanimous senti ments of the whole county. The noble earl gave his concurrence to the petition, and denied that the cry for reform was founded on a de sire for revolution. He would ask all who spoke about revolution, in what way would this measure take from the just rights of the crown, or the privileges of Parliament ? The Marquis of t'A :UDEN said there was a difference of opinion in the county of Kent upon the question, and especially among the freeholders. The Earl of WI NCH I !SEA said he was a freeholder of Kent. and he believtd the sent ments of the freeholders to be favourable to the bill. The Duke of NEWCASTLE prescrattl a patition from New Rom. aey, in Kent, against the reform bill. The Sugar Duties 11:11 was sad a third time and passed. The LORD CHANCELLOR postponed the committee on his Chancery Lunatics B.:1, which stuod for this day, until Monday, the 18th of April. PARLIAMENTARY REPORM. Lord WU A RNCLIFFE, after presenting several petitions against i Reform, rose to native for certain papers connected with a subject of which he had given notice, but which, he said, had not then been car ried by the Govetnn...mt of the country through the other House of Parliament. The noble lord considered It his duty, very early after the measure had been brought before Parliament, to give notice of his intention to introduce the subject on a motion for papers. At that time he had no idea the House of Commons would debate so long on the bill—they continued the discussion seven nights without a division, and he then thought it right to postpone the notice until they came to a division on it. The measure being then und. r thscussion he had sn objection to the introduction of the question in that heu.e. but still he thought if a measure of so much importame seas to s. toe b fore their , loidships, it would be better for sonic Peer to mime moron that would lead to information on the subject. The nub!. turd made I:1 s.• observations to account for the delay which had occut red since lie t eas: notice of his motion. T'lere was one point which he was anxious to allude to before be entered upon the main subject, nanldy, the odium which cep. peered to fall on the proprietors of boroughs. Ile 11,a1 undoubtedly some connection with a butough which would be aff end b., the bill. It was property arising from land, and doling the time his tamily had held i!, marly one hundred years, improper itfluence lisei rut been used. In many instances the clamour against borough prop, ie,ors hail hoot un justly raised. The noble lord mentioned %hip, bee.;we it a I been ht Id out by the press that every man who differed upon the bill was sup posed to be influenced by base and selfish motives. The noble lord called upon those who had known him in public and prisate life to say whether he had been influenced by such motives. Ile was ready. like other noble lords, to give up his interest, hut lie wished to be assured that the resignation of his interest would be for the benefit of the coun try. The noble lord came into public life for his borough, and it raised him to the representation of one of the largest counties ; finally the gracious favour of his Majesty led him to a scat in that assent bly ; but he might date all his honour and prosperity from his firs, an. troduction to the House of Commons as the representative of a borough. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord then called upon the house to advert to the progress which Reform had been making during a long period. Parliament had opposed corruption sat the boroughs of Grampound, Penryn and East Retford. But they 114 not proceeded with a resolute intention to punish corruption. If they had carried justice in their right hard on every occasion the people would have been satisfied, and the present call for Reform would nor have been raised, The noble lord then called the attention of the house to the result of a motion brought forward in the other House of Po ham. at by Lord Althorp, shortly after the disfranchisenicht of the basough of Grampound ; that motion had for its object the transfer of the Iran chise to such towns as Manchester, Leeds, and Birmingham ; bur what was the result ? After the question was fairly discussed. there were St the transfer of the elective franchise 140, anti against it 188. leaving a majority of 40 for not disturbing the franchise—a tolerable proof of the light in which the house then viewed that important que.tion ; he W::• aware that he ranked amongst the anti-reformers, who all their lives hail reform forced upon them as it were. He was satisfied, however, and no doubt many of his noble friends on that :side of the house were equally so, that it was now morally impo siblc to go on without some modified scheme of reform being introduced ; he was quite ready to allow that to cure those evils complained of by the people, it was ne emery to have some reform; but he contended it was nut absolutely necessary to throw away every thing which had hith,rto been reckoned valuable in the country.—(Hear from the opposition.) The noble earl at the head of the administration on the subject of Reforni,liad in the early part of his life expressed himself as satisfied with a modified species of Reform. Earl GREY, across the table, said the people bad no confidence in the House of Commons, as at present constituted. He felt bound to support any measure of Reform which had for its object the restoration of that confidence. Lord WHARNCLIFFE resumed. He characterised the Mi. nisterial measure of Reform as one of the most wonderful changes he had ever witnessed in the course of his political life. It had been termed a " revolutionary" measure ; if in that phrase, anar chy, confusion, and violence, wete implied, be would not go so far as to admit such a sense; it certainly was, at all events a radical change of the constitution of the country, tearing it up. as it were, by the roots—it was not only grievous, but altogether unnecessary. Now, with respect to the close burghs, or more properly speaking the nomination burghs, he should take the betty of adverting shortly to the sentiments of the Noble Lord, the mover of the present measure in the other House of Parlia ment. The noble lord, in a work of his on the English Constitution, in reference to theme burghs observed, and he (Lord IVharncliffe) quite agreed wrth him, that by them enlightened men daily found their way into parliament—by them the aristocracy of talent was preserved ; many of these men, but for close burghs, would never arrive at the House of Commons, and the speech of one of whom was worth 20 of the silent votes of open burgh members. (Hear from the opposition.) Such was the use with Mr. Fox and other eminent statesmen, even his noble friend on the woolsack, he believed, had expressed himself, at one petted, of a similar way of thinking. (A laugh.) But the bill itself was so contrived as In procure for it what was reckoned • unani mity of feeling amongst the people; there never was, however, a greater delusion than to suppose such a unanimity really existed. That the bill was cleverly drawn he did not deny ; there was a little advan tage here, and a little advantage there, which gave him a seeming po pularity. The noble lord then entered into the details of the bill which had reference to lease and copylsolders, arguing that the number of the latter were so small that they would not make up fur the effects of the bill in other respects. It would also be found, when the tax gatherer went round, that the number of houses rented at 10 pounds per annum would very far exceed the returns upon which the bill appeared to have been framed. As an example, he might be allowed to notice a case which came under his immediate observation. His (Lord Wham. thee's) gardener, a man to whom he paid fourteen shillings a week, told him, on being questioned that he rented a house at twelve pounds a.year, be (Lord Whanscliffe) naturally enough imagined that it was not a common occurrence for individuals whose earnings ea: so small to occupy such ■ house, but he was told by the gent that his was no better than many others, in short, they w..-e nearly all similar in the parish. Then, with respect to shot ti. og the dnration of the poll; take Liverpool for an example, it to 6 011101111.41aD 2 , 1788• w a ~~ z> ~