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he had not thrown • at his 'tarred friend in his argumeut. He thought that th, honed gentleman, who had only spoken twice in that hnuse, had been limn hardly dealt with than usual for so young a member. The learned baronet then proceeded say, that in not going to the pariah for the popu lation necessary to q.alify the borough of Clitheroe, that the government were acting with the utmost inconsistency; mat they had drawn an arbitrary line which they called an ere- .iardical botindare, and the reason assigned was a very shi: l itlar one they gni.] that the parish was fro large ; and t.- • they called pri - .4:ple. The one time they refused to v the population to a borough because it stood in two aita es; but here was a case of one perish, and they re. tas. .; because the population was ton large. It appeared wise that the herttugh must have the same name as the palish; if they meant to lay down this as a principle it was het no schoolboy would stoop to argue against. This such fiddling, such quibbling, such gaseonading, t • from the opposition.) such emptiness, (hear, hear,) • noihingness, (hear. hear.) such fiddling over the e.0.m., (hear, hear) such fiddling on a broken fiddle hear,) such mountehmk lgishition—(hear, hear,) ; t it ight do for a reformed telrliament. hut it could not do tar this house. (Order, amt order. from the Chair.) The ric'et hen. secretary Setniey)etemed to presume a good dues tet his office, and rather exceeded his place—(Cries of Chni, r. order)—he was up. and speaking on the question, •rrogated to himself, as it were, the office of Attorney. General for the opposite side, to expound the law. Mbytes from the Opposition) He would c ill upon the right hon. member, as Attorney-General, to say, he who was bound to etc the law properly explained, if this was any thing like law. To say that you cannot have the population front two parishes, because they were not one, and then to be told that you cannot have the population from one parish because it war not two. Ile would not insult his own reflection by vetirg for the bill, involved as it was in absurdities. Mr. CUST explained. Mr. STANLEY said that the learned hart. had made a charge against that side of the house of fiddling and mounte banking. He was sure that Paganini himself was not a rea ter adept in the art of harping on one idling then the bon and leaned bare He had upbraided hint (Mr. Stanley) witn getting up on every question. and assuming to himself, as it were, the duties of Attorney-General. He could say, that if he had been appointed to that office, he would have been very ill qualified; but he thought that the right hon. hart, affotded an instance, that if verbosity, endless garrulity, continually repeating the same thing over and over again in a thousand shapes, was a qualification for that office, he was n striking example that a learned gentleman might retain his qualifications long after he had ceased to hold that office. The learned bare was often very amusing, although at times rather lengthily so. He did not know how near that might approach to mountebanking. (Laughter.) He concluded with saying, that it was absurd to say that in this case to go t , ) the parish was to extend the franchise, where the elfish consisted of 87,000. el r. PRA Ef) made a few observations. Lord J. RUSSELL gave a brief explanation, and al. hided to the node in which the Hon. and Learned Barenet l.rought forward his objections, and his frequent interroga tories of, what would the Noble Lord say to this, and what would he sac to that. He (Lord J. Russell) thought the people would attribute the conduct of the Learned Baronet .0 its proper source ; that the interrogatories, and the ob stacles opposed by the Hon. and Learned Baronet were merely for the purpose of vexatious delay, and to gain time by procrastination. (Loud cries of Question.) Sir C. 's% F.TH KR ELL said that be was still ready to sesert that tie tight hon. secretary had presumed beyond his • !lice, tl.at he indulged in a fondness for school-boy sae. .scat, and personal attack on the hon. members on that side of the house. (Cries of question.) lie talked of losing temper, but no one seemed more out of temper, or out of place, t •an himself. (Cries of question, question.) He seemed q ite intoxicated with his preferment. (A member from the sale gallery vociferated Question, question.) Sir C. We t .•rell locking up at him very sternly, and in an elevated tore, pointing at him, said, an hon. member on that side c.tiis out Question, question, but dote he think that I will b..ffer any une to attack rue in this house, and not defend tuysclii An hon. member on the other side had on a former occasion talked of the Ajax flagellator, hut it was one thing to have ti e will to whip, and a n o th er thing to have the strength—(loud cheers from the opposition); —a man height be a flagellator and yet not an Ajax ; and he (Sir C. Wetherell) could tell the right hon. secretary that, although was a flagellator be was no Ajax. [This sentence ex ceed great amusement, and occasioned continued laughter, on account of the emphatic manner with which it was de. livered, and accompanied by a kind of isalf-threwening, half. defying, menacing motion with the clenched fist, by Sir C. IVethetell, wirch he repeated half.a-dozen times, amidst the cheers of hi. friends and the laughter of the ministerial benches.] The learned baronet complained of the repeated attacks that had been made upon him by the honourable tweretuy, but said that they would never stop him from goeng his opinion. The noble lord had enqui.ed what tile people of England would say to his conduct: be had given his opinions, and they had gone forth to the people of England ; and he could tell the noble lord, that so far from the people of England having been displeased, that ti.t:y had often applied to him. (Hear, bear, was bawled by a siugle voice with most stentorian lungs, from under the gallery on the Opposition side. The effect was tremendous —;the house was altogether convulsed with laughter, and it was some time before Sir C. Wetherell could proceed. And when quietness was again restored, and he attempted to pro ceed, the loud cry of hear, hear, hear, was again introduced by the same voice—the burst of laughter was renewed with recreased force. This occurred many times. The house was a scene of unrestrained mirth. The cry was then changed to that of Order, order; and this the single voice took up in the same comic strain, and equally loud, which he repeated as many times as the other, and was each time followed with as hearty a peal of laughter. Then followed cries of Chair, chair, which were treated by the single voice in the same manner, and met with the same reception. This singular and amusing scene lasted a con siderable time, and alter the cause had ceased, it seemed to be no easy task to restore to sufficient gravity the Hon. Members to suffer the Learned Baronet to proceed.) He resumed by saying that he was addressing himself to the people of England, as well as the Noble Lord—they were both appealing to the people. He (Sir C. Wetherell) was addressing himself to their common sense when he opposed the bill. The Noble Lord was a candidate for democratic popularity, but he was not a candidate for democratic popu larity ; he was a candidate for public approbation, but he was opposed to opening the flocd-gates to democratic pre pondetance. (Cries of Question, question.) Sir G. MURRAY made a few observations amidst loud cries of Question. Mr. PitA ED said, that although they might seem to have been long employed in debate, they had not been long on the point immediately before the House.—(Cries of Question, question) He made a few remarks on the at. tack made by :11r. Stanley, and said he was frequently guilty of wandering from the question under discussion.—(Cries of Question, question) He had a question to put, which he was determined to do before he bat down. He would call upon the Noble Lord to answer whether or not they bad acted upon the principle of reporting the inictination that had been sent regarding the population of the borough and its relations to the Home Office, or that they had been actuated by rejecting the parochial cbapelry. Lord J. RUSSELL rose amidst loud calls for question, and replied. that it was as uncommon question to be put in committee, and he thought would he admitting a bad prece. dent. (The cries of question were renewed.) Mr. PRA ED said, he had a right to put the question, and he would nor be prevented torn exercising that preroga tive as a representative in that house. (Question.) Lord ALTHORP gave a sheet reply to the lion. man. Ixr, and said, that they had never adopted that line pre. scribed by the hon. member. Sir C. VI ET HE HELL rose amidst tumultuous calls for q..estion. lie repeated his arguments regarding the state of the parish. [Alderman Wood called out hear, hear, which brought down a testy philippic on him from the bon. ' bat. tor his sitting on the opposition side, and so often tailing out hear, bear, when hen. members were speaking. The philippic cussed another laugh.] He wished the real stair of the parish and borough to go forth to the public, tend:see what the people of England would say to the noble lord ftw disfranchising the borough of one member. Mr. PR AED again rose amidst renewed cries of question, end said that he lied not sufficiently understood the explana tion. (A laugh.) The noble lord had not answered the question explicitly, and he (Mr. Praed) ,would have the Noble lord to say " Yes or No," whether they had acted upon rejecting the information, or in refusing the chapelry. Lord ALTHORP regretted that the Hon. Member had not obtsinedthe answer he required ; but his Lordship had no doubt that it bad been owing to his not speaking suffi etently distinct, and not to the Hon. Member's want of understanding. (A laugh.) His Lordship. then repeated that they bad in no instance adopted that sort of dirisiosof the population. (Cries of question.) Mr. - CHOKER then roes, and m if addressing the gallery, in an elevated tone said, the parish is to be rejected because it is large, and has no connection with the borough ; and the parochial chapelry is rejected because it is connected with the borough, and has no connection with the parish. Mr. KNIGHT rose amidst loud cries o{ question, and made a few ironical remarks on Mr. Stanley, and said that his conduct only confirmed the abhorrence he entertained of the measures of the Cabinet to which he belonged. The question was then put amidst great confusion, and was carried without a division. On the motion that Cockermouth stand part of the schedule, Sir J. SCAR LETT said he considered the rule to be, that when a borough, together with its parish, contained upwards of 2000 or 4000 inhabitants, it was to retain its represents- ' tion. He could name three places, Northallaton, Morpeth, and a third, which thus retained their representatives, though the boroughs were distinguished from the parishes in the po pulation return of 1831. Cockermouth, with its parish of Bigham, contained upwards of 4000 inhabitants. It WAS superior, both in population and number of 101. house holders, to the three places he had mentioned, and he there fore, could see no reason for its being removed from schedule B, unless the fact of Cockermouth bearing a different name from the parish in which it was situated were one, which, in his htmble judgment, it was nor. (Hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL said the sole reason was the popula tion return. In that return tne borough of Cockermouth was separated from the parish. After a few woria from an Hon. Mason, Mr. BERRIES said Ditton was refused a junction with its parish, on the snle ground of the pepulation of the latter being too scattered. This objection did not apply to the proem case. The only objection could be with respect to the difference in the name. Mr. BARING said it would be as absurd to separate Cockermouth from its parish because of a name, as it would he to separate the City of 11 - estminster from that part which went by the name of Savoy. This was a stronger case than that of Sabah. The union between Saltash and St. Ste phens was only eeclesiutical, whereas, in the present case, the union existed in every respect. Lord A LTHOR P said there was not only here a separate vicarage, but also separate parochial assessments. Thechurcb of Bigharn was four miles distant from Cockermouth. The assessments in the ease of Saltash and St. Stephens were not separated. Air. CHOKER said the vote wit% respect to Cocker. mouth and the pari‘h in the return of 1821 stood thus : bo rough of Cockermouth 3790 inhabitants, added to the inha. bitants of the parish of Bigham, the total forms 6,028. The vote in the eases of Horsham and Caine was precisely the same. The return, therefore, united the borough and the parish in the present case in he same manner as in the two cases of Horsham and Caine. Mr. IILA3IIRE had a local knowledge of Bingham. It contair.ed thirteen townships, of which Cockermouth was one. The limits of the borough were perfectly distinct. Mr. BARING explained. Af.er a few words from Mr. AvrwooD and Lord ALTIIORP, Mr. C. FERGUSON said a vast deal of the time of the House had been wasted in considering whether Govern. ment had decided right in other cases. It was immaterial to him how Horsham and the other places had been dis posed of ; Cockermouth was below 4000 Inhabitants, and therefore he should vote for its remaining in schedule B. If Hon. Members moved that the places to which they had al luded should be included in schedule B, he should that listen to their arguments. Sir R. PEEL could assure the Hon. Gentleman he would rot waste the time of the House. When the facts adduced in the case of Chippenham had proved to the sails. faction of every man and of the House—(cries of No I and Hear !)—would Hon. Members allow him to finish his sentence before they cried No ! When the facts of the cue of Chippenham had proved to the satisfaction of the House that no reliance could be placed in the population return, 160 houses being proved to have been omitted in that re turn, the Ministerial majority had still refused to grant a delay for the purpose of investigating how the omission had occured. From that moment he (Sir R. P.) saw that in no case, however strong, was justice to be expected--(cheers)-- and he would therefore trouble the House with no details on the present schedule.—(Loud cheers from the Opposition.) Mr. HUNT regretted the right hon. baronet and oppoai tion had not followed his advice sooner. (A laugh.) He deprecated a plan proposing that a rotten borough should be a nucleus round which to collect independent electors. He hoped to see Schedule B entirely sent to the right-about. After a few words from Mr. BAILING, Mr. FERGUSOIf, and Mr. HUNT, - - The Committee divided— Ayes 233 Noes ••. 181 Majority for Ministers.......... 83 On the motion that I)orcbestcr form part of Schedule 13, Lord ASHLEY said Dorchester contained 600 electors, of whom 300 were resident, and 333 101. houses. He un denitood the principle of government to be a mixture of po. potation and property. If in Downton and St. Gamains they departed from the strict line of population, because the constituency was not sufficient, surely they might de part front it when the constituency was greater than required. (Hear, hear.) Fordington was as much a part of Dorches ter as hlarylebone was of London. The surrounding coun try was open there was no rural population. He would propose, then, that these two places should be joined. Their conjoint population exceeded, in 1821, 4000. He would remind them that Deal and Sandwich were joined in a similar manner. Penryn bad even been joined to a place three miles dist.nr. Dorchester was not a nomination bo rough. The majority of the electors were gentlemen of property residing within the borough. His father had assured him on his word of honour that during two elections which he lied. sustained in the bor ough not one bribe was given.— He (Lord A.) was now the representative, and never had he been asked a favour. Six boroughs had retained two mem bers, which were below Dorchester by sixty 101. houses. He would be accused of having some base motive in defend ing Dorchester • but he assured the house i t w ou ld b e un justly, for he defended Its constituency only for their Inde pendence and high character. Lord ALTHORP said, the noble lord was the last man whom he (Lord Alrhorp) would accuse of base motives. The principle of government was only so far of a mixed na. l tare, that population decided the place for which the election should be made, and property the inhabitants who should form the constituency. In the two cases alluded to by the noble lord, the places were large and populous, whereas Fordingtou was not of that description, according to the noble lord's own statement. The noble lord said that Dor. cheater was rot a nomination borough; but he (Lord Al thorp) had never said that the boroughs in schedule B were nomination boroughs. Many were not; and when the new constituency was called in, be trusted none would be. An exception with respect to Dorchester would make it difficult not to make many other exceptions. After a few words from Mr. WILLIA 318, Sir G. WARRENDER said, he would cite five or six places which retained their full representation, though in. laity in their number of voters to Dorchester. He had re presented Sandwich in two Parliaments, and from his own knowledge of the borough, could state, that from having 1,000 electors, as at present, it would , the Bill, be come a snug nomination borough. The same would be the case with many other boroughs in schedule B, which, he thought, would be the death of the Bill. (Hear.) He pledged himself that if be sho u ld b e 'r eturne d to mother Parliament he would attack the nomination boroughs. He knew the public were with Ministers in the disfanchisement of nomination boroughs ; but the case was different when they disfranchised from 400 to 1,000 electors who had exer cised their constitutional rights with integrity and indopen. ence, to turn them into nomination buroughs.—(Hear, bear.) In the ease of Dorchester, there were 333 lode. pendent electors—it by no means partook of the character of a nomination borough, and he thought it ought to be with drawn from Schedule B.—(Hear.) Mr. G. BA MIES said that the house had heard both the hon. members for Dorchester, and he thought there were no two members in the house they would be less willing to part with. (Hear.) Be thought no stronger case could be made out against the disfranchisement of the schedule, than that by its operation one of two such members would be lost to the house. He thought such a borough ought not to be dis franchised. (Hear.) Sir R. PEEL thought there was sufficient ground for uniting the population of Fordington with that of Dorchester, and taking Dorchester out of schedule B. Mr. JOHN STANLEY thought concession on the part of ministers had only the effect of leading to farther claims, and that it was highly expedient the should adhere to the role laid down, according to which should remain In schedule B. Mr. BARING said that the haikof Major Cartwright's head would have stood on sod If he thought that the Ministers of the Crown could bring down to the House a plan for disfranchising * county towns of Baglend.— (Cheers, and laughter.) . The ATTORNEY.OENERA L said it was dillieult to know whether to answer or not to answer the objection of the opponents of the Bill. If they answered them they were to a certain extent playing the game of their adversaries, which was delay ; and if they did not answer, they were complained of and taunted as not being able to support their measure by argument. Besides, when they answered they were interrupted by cheers before half the argument was hard ; and this by the expiring Parliament, whose horror et their successors was that they would be deficient in good mannnera.—(Hear, hear.) He could see no reason for taking Dorchester out of the schedule B, and he was sorry that Ministers had in any instance made an exception to their own rule in the case of any borough, which was the pose of all the long speeches that were now inflicted on the House. The House should remember, that all those who wanted to take Dorchester out of schedule B were the op ponents of the Dill—(lieer.) Sir GEORGE WARRENDER said, he thought the people of England were under a delusion in supporting the present bill. The statesmen of Europe were looking to it with fearful apprehension lest it should be the shipwreck of all hope of good government for the world. (Cheers and laughter.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL begged the house to consider that the present question was, whether Dorchester should have one or two members. He thought no case had been made cut for taking Dorchester out of schedule B. (Hear.) Mr. CROKER said, Dorchester, including the liberty of Fentlington, was clearly entitled to retain both its repre sentatives. (Hear.) Mr. HUNT said he had heard a doctrine that evening which he should never hear without expressing his dissent— namely that the placeoten should have Feats in that house. By the act of Settlement, which was not repealed, though it was eternally violated, no person holding any office under the Crown should sit in that house ; and this was still the law, though violated by a fiction of that house. The Hon. Gentleman near him said Major Cartwright's hair would stand on end at the present bill. He could assure the Hon. Gentleman it would have no such effect . • in the first place because the Major had no hair—(a l a ugh) ; and in the next place the Major, would not be shocked at seeing all who paid taxes admitted to vete ; nor at any approach to that favourite measure. Dorchester was a respectable county town, and he was sure its disfranchisement would cause great dissatis faction. (Hear.) The Committee divided. For the resolution . . . 279 Againn it . . . . "3 Majority for Ministers . . 86 The next resolution was, that the borough of Droitwieh stand part of schedule B.—Agreed to. The question was then put, that the borough of Evesitam do stand part of schedule H. After a few words from Mr. C. Pelham, Sir C. Coe. kerell, and Mr. Hudson, Evcslutm was declared part of the clause. The CHAIRMAN next put the question, that Great Grimsby stand part of the clause. Mr. SHELLEY, one of the representatives of the bo rough, said, at that late hour of the night, and against the feelings of the house, he should urge nothing against the question. Captain HARRIS opposed the motion. He was of opi nion that the great advantage the port of Great Grimsby was to the Customs of the country, was of itself a sufficient rea son why it should not be included in schedule B. No less a sum than 30,9731. from the month of June 1821, to Ja nury of the following year, had been paid into the Exche quer from that port. Colonel SIBTH OR PE opposed the motion. Mr. TREVOR. protested against such a system of uncon scionable devastation.--(A laugh.) After a few words from Mr. C. Pelham, Captain Harris, Sir J. Doyle, and Mr. Pelham, the question was put and carried in the affirmative. Alter a desultory conversation between several hon. mem. ben, the substance of which did not reach the Gallery, The CH AIRMAN reported progress, with leave to sit again this day. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at Two o'Clock. - _ _ FOREI(.SI INTELLIGENCE. EXTRACTS FROM THE PARIS JOURNALS. RECEIVED THIS DAY. PARIS, JULY 27. By an ordonnance of the King, dated July 26, Rear-Admiral Baron Roussin has been raised to the rank of Vice Admiral.—Moniteur. It is certain that M. Perier has declared that he will retire if M. Lafitte is elected to the Presidency of the Chamber. It is affirmed that Marshal Soult is in the same dispositions.—Quotidienxe. The majority of the• Chamber of Deputies is sufficiently well delineated in the formation of the Bureaux. Upon 18 presidents and secretaries, 12 belong to the just medium, six to the opposition. —Le Globe. It is rather remarkable that France and England show us at this moment the elective chamber and the hereditary chamber placed in a position nearly similar. Thus the English system of the three powers may be found broken at once in France and in England.—Gazette de France. Immediately after the Speech from the Throne, the Minister of Foreign Affairs forwarded dia.. patches for Saint Petersburgh, London, Vienna, Berlin, the Hague, Constantinople, &c. Other extraordinary couriers were dispatched for different capitals of Europe ; and all the members of the diplomatic corps profited from the expedition of these couriers to address dispatches to their go vernments. The Count d'Ofalia dispatched a courier to his court, and another to Vienna.— Quotidienne. The Duke of Angouleme has been at Reistadt since the 14th of July. He has the intention of proceeding to Baden.—Gazette d'Augsbourg. The Duke de Mouchy, formerly captain of the garde, des corps, passed through Versailles and Sevres, escorted by two gendarmes, carrying pis tols in their hand. He was arrested in La Vendee. Vigilant de Seine-et •Oise. We are assured, that a telegraphic dispatch to all the functionaries of the frontier departments engage them to watch the proceedings of the Duchess of Berry-48.nd in case that Princess should be found putting her foot upon the French soil, it is prescribed to conduct her •ery politely to the frontier. The Emperor Don Pedro arrived this day at Paris, dined with the King, and was present at the concert which took place at the Palais Royal. The Emperim, who was to have quitted to-morrow for Cherbourg, has accepted the invitation offered him by the King of accompanying his Majesty to morrow on horseback, in the solemnities which will take place at the Pantheon. It is to be hoped that the Emperor will postpone his departure, in order to be present at the review on the 29th, which will be one of the most splendid reviews with which the capital has ever been gratified.— Moniteur. The conquerors of the Butile have not been in vited to the ceremony of the anniversary of the three days. It may be recollected, however, that the ministry, by refusing all commemoration for the 14th of July, announced that the two fetes would be made into one. Why then do not the veterans of French liberty figure by the side of the men of the three days ? Few of them have survived forty years ; but who would not have seen with joy a deputation of these old patriots, guided by the venerable Hulin, the Belisarius of our first revolution, then eerjeant to the French Guards, now General and Count ?—La Revelstioa. HIIITORIC•L Souvzwia.—OnJuly26th.lB3o, Charles X. by the grace of Got), King of France and Navarre, made ordonnances contrary to liberty. 1 The journalists signed a protest—the working prin ters and the young men of the schools took the re solution of resisting—they did resist—the popula tion was drawn in—the signs of royalty were effaced every where. The word li ING seemed to have disappeared for ever ! It is assured that there has been a revolution ! The men of power, however, doubt it.—And so do we.—La Tribune. We had remitted to us this evening a protest, signed by more than 500 workmen, inhabitants of the Faubourg St. Antoine, which energetically rs• pulses all contract or connection with the fah* workmen who were enrolled in the day of the 14th. Ve shall produce this protest as a document for acquittance in our law-suit.—National. The 27th, 28th, and 29th of July—days for ever memorable—days of mourning and of glory, ... which the country will never forget, neither In fts noble sympathy for the victims, nor in its gratitude for the conquerors 1 We enter upon the week of the people ; let us recal then, for the instruction of all, that which was done by instinct—without ambition, without orator, and without chief. It was done by the sovereign people, irresistible., braving showers of grape-shot, breaking all ob stacles, and not laying down arms until they encamped in the salons of the Tuileries. What awakened that terrible giant? What inflamed that rage ? A perjury ! The Char ter or death ! Eloquent cries which assem bled an army of heroes, and carried fear into the soul of a felon King ! He had lied before God—lied upon the gospel ; he had knowingly de stroyed the contract passed between France and him. This accusation, coming from the bottom of all hearts, overthrew the throne of Charles X. It is but the morale of nations—it is clear as the sun at noon day ; distinctions, interpretations can not obscure it. Isolated man is sometimes un fortunate enough to bargain with his conscience; a people, never !—Journal de Paris. BELGIAN FORTRESSES. Na I. PROTOCOL OF A CONFERENCE, HELD AT THE FOREIGN-OTTICE 17TH APRIL, 18$1. Present—The Plenipotentiaries of Austria, Great Britain, Prussia, and Russia. " The Plenipotentiaries of Austin, of Great Britain. of Pra»:a, and of Russia, having met, have directed their at untion to the fortresses constructed since the 'year 1815 bt the kingdom of the Netherlands, at the expense of the Four Courts; and to the determinations which it would become necessary to make with respect to these fortresses, when the separation of Belgium from Holland shall have been de6• nitively effected. " Having carefully examined this question, the Plenipo tentiaries of the Four Courts were unanimously of opinion, that the new sitnation in which Belgium would be placed, with her neutrality acknowledged and guaranteed by France, ought to change the system of military defence which bad been adopted for the kingdom of the Netherlands; that the fortresses in question would be too numerous not to make it difficult for the Belgians to provide for their maintenance and defence; that, moreover, the unanimously.admitted inviolability of the Belgian territory offered a security which did not previously. exist. Finally, that a put of these for tresses constructed under different circumstances, might at present be rased. " In consequence the Plenipotentiaries have finally de cided that, as soon as a Government shall exist in Belgium recognized by the Powers taking part in the conferences of London, a negociation shall be set on foot between the Four Powers and that Government, for the purpose of selecting such of the said fortresses as should be demolished. (Signed) " RITZ/Barr. WrISESPZII4I. " PI "Bvt.ow. " Lung N. Ila; No. IL " Foreign.nilice, July 14, 1831. " The undersigned, Plenipotentiaries of the Courts of Austria, of Great Britain, of Prussia, and of Russia, being desirous of giving a further proof of the reliance which they place on the disposition shown by the Government of hie Majesty the King of the VIM* far the maintenance of the general peace, think it their duty to communicate to the Prince de Talleyrand the annexed copy of a protocol which they have issued upon the subject of the fortresses erected since the year 1815 in the kingdom of theNetberlands. " The undersigned see no objection to giving the same publicity to this protocol as may have been given to the others acts of the negmiations which have taken place since the month of November, 1830, on the affairs of Belgium. " They take this opportunity to renew, as. (Signed) " ESTIMILIMY. ‘ PI " BULOW.. " Linz,. Illmoszsmc." The Belgians have found a anagrams' in the follow ing announcement of their Hinge title I " Leopoldo, Bel. garum Rex voce Populi." By adding together the amount of the numerals in the above words, the year of his accession is found, viz. L 60, L 50, D. 500, V 6, L 80, V 6, SI 1000. X 10, V 6,C 100, V 6, L6O, I 1-1831. The demolition of the fortresses of Belgium is an important fact. Let us say some words upon it. Once Belgium is separated from Holland, the fortresses are no longer threatening : they had made of the kingdom of the Low Countries, a tete de pont against us; that kingdom fallen, this We de pont has no longer anything threaten ing for France. The Belgian revolution has not given us walls of stone, and brick fortresses; it' has done better than that : it has given us the hearts of its garrisons. Is this good disposition of the Belgians in our favour changed ? We be lieve not. Belgium, in these late times, if we be lieve the Journals, is very angry against France; she has accused her; cursed her; mere quarrels of lovers, nothing more. The Belgians have the same manners, and the same language as we have. The interest of the greater part of the pro vinces attach them to France. All these tieswill not be broken easily. Besides, we may add, that the present anger is confined to Brussels, rather than Belgium. The good disposition of the Belgians for us wonld dismantle the fortresses of 1814, so effi caciously, perhaps, that they would cause them to be sapped and mined. Their demolition is no great advantage, one way or another.—Journal des . Debats. NEWS PROM POLAND. EXTRACT OF A 'ATTILA FROM THI EORDRILS OF IS•R, JULY 18.—The public journals have an nounced that Field Marshal Paskewitsch was by birth a Pole, and hadjought for Poland in 1794. This is false. The 'MU Marshal is a native of an old Russian province, ad in 1794 he was atil a Russian pege.—Gasette d'Augsbourg. BERLIN, JULY 17.—The letters from %Flaw , contradict the news of the pump of the Vistula I near Plock. The project was abandoned te ,„, that the garrison of Modlin had made a livtly monstration to oppose it. The Russians in fttirn, have been pursued to the utmost by the Pc have taken from them their baggage and lion. The war becomes more and more The Polish peasants concealed in the woods all the strayed Russians. Humanity ti , with horror at the frightful scenes committed (t both sides. At Warsaw, the whole pop u i at i wa ready to make a desperate resistance. Th e ~,c w. sity is felt of surrounding by a cordon son i tai ,. the point of the Prussian frontiers, occupied 40. 4 corps of Gielgud, which has just been disarm , :d.... Gazette d' A ugsbourg. POLISH FRONTIERS, JULY 16.—1 t nounced that Sluszewo was occupied the tin fore yesterday by 200 Cossacks. A comider a n„ corps of the Russian army holds upon the lift b ail of the Vistula, the cities of Racioncrzir, of L a. branizk, and other points. Field-Marshal EA, witsch stopped but a very short time upon th, place where the passage was effected. 'Amuse tlm the news bad arrived that the Polish General ua, approaching the Narew, which decided the n u .. sian General to return to his quarters at Lipeo..... Gazette de Prune. A letter arrived from Berlin, dated the `2ot:, addressed to a high personage, announces dim tl. , Polish Generalissimo, after having allowed a rrt of the Russian army to pass the Vistula, attacked the other part with 30,000 men. The issue of this battle is not known ; but every thing gi ves reason to hope that it has been to the advantage o f the Poles, the portion of the Russian army uhicl, bad crossed the river being in such a position that it was impossible for it to cross again, to arrive 1t useful time to the succour of the corps of the arn.% attacked.—Le National. The news of Poland is still too contradict :v t ,, `form a positive opinion upon the operations of tl.'L two armies. A letter of the 17th states, that th Russians have not passed the Vistula below Pluck. Other letters of the 16th affirm, on the contrary, that this passage is effected, and even mention se veral points of the left bank already occupied bv the Russian troops. The Polish army, concentrated at Modlin, appears to hold itself in observation. until such time as the movements of the enemy are defined a little more clearly. It has sent, in the interim, detachments upon Plock ami upon the Narew, to watch the marches and countermarches of the Russians, If Mar shall Paskewitch has decidedly passed the Vistula —a manoeuvre which will entire separate hies from his communications with Russia—it is that the sup• port of the Prussian Government is assured to him. Backed thus at the frontier of Posnily he will re ceive provisions and ammunition by two grand routs, that of Thorn to Warsaw, and that of Posen to the same capital. This manoeuvre of the Russian army is that which may be the most vexati ous. If the Poles sink, they will owe it to this posi tion. On the other side, Gen. Gielgud has just been killed by a Polish officer, when he was layin; down his arms upon the frontiers of Oriental Prus sia. It is added that Chlapowski is equally con strained to retire. It would appear, from this in telligence, that the Lithuanian insurrection is sup- pressed, and that the Russian forces will proceed towards the Bug to march upon Warsaw by the side of Praga, while Paskewitsch will attack that capi tal by the left bank of the Vistula. 150,000 men will probably soon be found assembled around thrt heroic city. But the Poles will have, in compen sation of the number, the advantage of a central position, and of a large river cutting the besieging army in two. They may yet crush separately the enemy's corps, as they have already done at Grodchow and at Wawer. It is very grievous to think that so many efforts should have ended in bringing again the Russians under the walls. of Warsaw, and that Poland will have to attempt there her last stroke of fortune. The sympathies of nations are evident ; but the Ca binets, those conductors of the people, hinder their generous feelings. What could not France do alone for a cause so noble? It would require to traverse Prussia with the main army, and we should arrive soon enough. Then the Germanic con federation would open us a friendly passage, by Bavaria and Saxony ! But for such a negotiation it would be necessary to have the unanimous con sent of all the co-States of the confederation, comprising Austria and Prussia. But it may be conceived that these two cabinets, holders them selves of a part of Poland, would oppose them- selves to all that which would appear to disturb them in the enjoyment of their usurpations. As to England, we cannot count upon her. There remains then for the Poles but courage or despair. These are the instruments of victory; and if their morale supports itself, they may still prove to the world that the fate of arms is not always in favour of the largest army.—Messager. DUTCH PAPERS RECEIVED THIS DAY. Baena, Jot: 26 . .—The review The troops in the Camp. at Rem, by the King, on the 23d, gave his Majesty an op. portunity to make himself acquainted with the spirit whirl► animates the whole army. Among the circumstances which deserve particular attention, is the following : After the King and the Prince of Orange hod set eat it Bios le Due, lus Royal Highness Prince Frederick assoffiled the generals and superior officers before the tent of the Prince of Saxe Weimar. Standing in the middle of the circle, formed of the greater part of the officers who commanded the troops in the review in the morning, (his Royal Highness said, that his Majesty was extremely satisfied with the good appearance of the troops, and particularly with the enthusiasm which they had manifested, and the re peated marks of fidelity and attachment which his Majesty hed received in the morning. " The moment Is perhaps very net at hand, Gentlemen, (added the Prince), when his Majesty will have occasion to make use of this enthusiasm, and of this desire to encounter the enemy, to defend sword In hand the rights of Holland, should it become necessary to draw the sword. His Ma jesty, on finding in the army the same proofs of atachmert and fidelity." These few words, delivered with visible emotion, made a deep impression on all meant, and tears roiled down the cheeks of our veteran warriors. 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