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dary i but they agreed to an aheration of their orig. Wrap, sittott on that subist, which renders it much int—e explicit than as stated, either in the first con feonce or in be ptoposed draught of the prot-r.-1. Thr.i..ls, , .obji-cted to the insertHn of the f ict. ghat. they had, .proposed to adjourn the conferences, until thoff4lll4 l ola.taiu turther instructions from their C,K*etnnsent. • Toe ,tar,. of their messenger may, perhaps, disclose the motive of their reluctance in that o s p ec t..—We have the honour to be, very respectfully, sk, your buaible and obedient servants, (Signed) " JOHN QUINCY ADAMS, J. A. BAYARD, Ho CLAY, JONA. RUSSELL." 4 ' PROTOCOL OF CONFERENCE. • " AUGUST 8. 1811.—The British and American Commissioners having met, their full powers were re spectively produced, winch were found satisfactory, and copies thereof were exchanged. ~ The British Commissioners stated the following subjects as those upon which it appeared to them that the discussions between themselves and the American Commissioners would be likely to turn. 4 , 1. The forcible seizure of mariners from on board Merchant ships on the high seas, and in connection with it the right of the King of Great Britain to the allegiance of all his native subjects. el 2. That the peace be extended to the Indian Allies of Great Britain, and that the boundary of their territory be definitely marked out, as a permanent harrier between the dominions of Great Britain and the ,United States. An arrangement on this subject to he a sine qua non of a treaty of peace, ~ 3. A revision of the boundary line between the British and American territories, with the view to prevent future uncertainty and dispute, 4. The British Commissioners requested information whether the American Commissioners were instructed to enter into negotiation on the above points But be fore they desired any answer, they felt it right to corn_ municate the intentions of their Government as to the North American fisheries, viz. That the Bri t ish Government did not intend to grant to the United States, gratuitously, the privileges formerly granted bY,treaty. to thefts, of fishing within the limits of the Acipill sovereignty and of using the shores of the Bri tish tertiteries tor purposes connected with the fisheries. Aumfir 9. —The Meeting being adjourned to the 9th of August, the Commissioners met again un that day. ~ The American Commissioners at this meeting stated, that upon the first and third points proposed by the British Commissioners, they were provided with instructions from their Government, and that the second and fourth of these points were not provided for in their instructions. That 'in relation to an In- din pacification, they knew that the Government of 1 the 'baited States had appointed Cin nissioners to treat elf ~peace. with. die Indians, S and that ityrasikot opetallable that peace had beets made with them: " s *A-Inerir v an Commissioners presented further 144er-to moldered by the Government of the United States as suitable fur discussion. - 61 1. A definition ci blockade, and as far as may bnapved, of other neutral and belligerent rights. _•+!c2. Certain claims of indemnity to individuals for captures and seizures preceding and subsequent tc the war. " S. They furtl:cr stated, that there were various. other points to which their instructions extended, which might with propriety be objects of discussion, either in the negociation of the peace, or in that of a treaty of commerce, which, in the case of a pro pitious termination of the present conferences, they were iikewise authorised to conclude. That for the purpose of facilitating the first and most essential ob ject of peace, they had discarded every subject which was not considered as peculiarly connected with that, and prese!ile4 only those points which appeared to be immediately relevant to this negociation. " The American Commissioners expressed their wish to receive from the British Commissicners a statement of the views and objects of Great Britain, upon all the points, and their willingness to discuss them all. 44 They, the Antetican Commissioners, were asked, wh.:her, if those of Great Britain should en ter further upon this disctsssion, particularly respect. ing the Indian boundary, the American Commission ers could expect that it would terminate by some p r o. visional arrangement, which they could conclude, subject to the ratification of their Government I " They answered, that as any arrangement to which they could agree upon the subject must be without specific authority from their Government, it was not possible for them, previous to dhcussion, to decide whether any article on the subject could be formed which would be mutually satisfactory, and to which they should think themselves, under their dis cretionary powers, justified in acceding. (Signed) (Prue Copy.) CHRIST. HUGHES, JUN. Sec. of Leg." The meeting was adjourned. DRAUGHT OP ORIGINAL PROTOCOL MADE BY THE AIME RICAN SIIIILSTERS, OP THE TWO FIRST CONFERENCES HELD WITH THE BRITISH COMMISSIONERS. " At a meeting between the Commissioners of his Britannic Majesty and those of the United States of America, for negotiating and concluding a peace, held at Ghent, Bth August, 1814, the following points were presented by-the Commissioners on the part of Great Britain as subjects for discussion s " 1. The forcible seizure of mariners on board of merchant-vessels, aid the claim of allegiance of his Brkannic Majesty ego! all the eatteatties objects of Great Britain. 44 2. The Indian Allies Of Great Britain to be.in chided in the pacification, and a boundary to be set tied between the domlitions of the Indians and those of the United Sta.'s. Both parts of this point ire considered by the British Government as a rine qua non to the conclusion of a treaty. 46 3. The revision of the boundary line between the territories of the United States and those of Great Britain adjoining them in North America. " 4. The Fisheries, respecting which the British Government will not allow the people of the United States the privilege of landing and drying fish within the territorial jurisdiction of Great Britain without an equival. " A nierican Commissioners were requested to say, whether their instructions from their Government au thorized them to treat upon these several points ; and to state on their part such other points as they might be further instructed to propose for discussion. 4 4 The meeting was adjourned to Tuesday, the 9th August, on which day the Commissioners met again. 64 The American Commissioners at this meeting stated, that upon the first and third points proposed by the British Commissioners, they were provided with instructions from their Government; and that on the second and fourth of these points, there having not ex isted heretofore any diffnences between the two Go vernments, they had not been anticipated by the Go vernn::•nt of the United States, and were, therefore, it+t provided for in their instructions. That in relation to an Indian pacification, they knew that the Govern ment of the United States had appointed Commis sioners to treat of peace with the Indians; and that it was not improbable that peace had been made with them. 66 The American Commissioners presented as fur ther points (subjects) considered by the Government of the United States as suitable for discussion. " I. A definition of blockade, and, as far as may be agreed, of other neutral and belligerent rights. " 2. Certain claims of indemnity to individuals for captures and seizures preceding and subsequent to the war. " 3. They further stattd, that there were various other points to which their instructions extended, which might with pro priety be objects of discuuion, either in the negotiation of the peace or in that of a treaty of commerce, which in case of a pro pitious termination of the present conferences they were likewise authorised to conclude. That for the purpose of facilitating the first and most essential object of peace, they had discarded every subject which was not considered as peculiarly connected with that, and presented only those points, which appeared to he im • mediately relevant to this negotiation. " The American Commissioners expressed their wish to receive from the British Commissioners a statement of the views and objects of Great Britain upon all the points, and their willingness to dis cuss them all, in order that if no arrangement could be agreed to upon the points not in their instructions, which would come within the scope of the powers committed to their discretion, the Government of the United States might be put in possession of the entire and precise intentions of that of Great Britain with regard to such points ; and that the British Govern ment might be fully informed of the objections on the part of the United States to any such arrangement. " They, the American Commissioners, were asked whether, if those of Great Britain should enter fur ther upon the discussion, particularly respecting the Indian Lou ndlry s the American Commissioners could e:peci. it would terminate by some provisional arrange ment which they could conclude, subject to the ratifi cation of their Government ? They answered, that as any arrangement to which they could agree upon the subject must be with specific authority from their Government, it was not possible for them, previous to discussion, to decide whether an article on the subject could be formed which wcuid be mutually satisfactory, and to which. they should think themselves, under the discretionary powers, justified in acceding. " The British Commissioners declined entering upon the discussion, unless the American Commis sioners would say, that they considered it within their discretion to make a provisional arrangement on the subject, conformable to the view of it prescribed by the British Government, and proposed to adjourn the conferences for the purpose of consulting their own Government on this state of things. " The British Commissioners were asked, whether it was understood as an effect of the proposed boun dary for the Indians, that the United States would be precluded from the right of purchasing territory from the Indians within that boundary by amicable Treaty with the Indians themselves, without the con. sent of Great Britain ? And whether it was under stood to operate as a restriction upon the Indians from ceding by such amicable treaties, lands to the United States, as have been hitherto practised ? a They answered, that it was understood, that the Indian territories should be a barrier between the British possesions and those of the United States ; that the United States , and Great Britain should both be restricted from such purchases of lands: but that the Indians would not be restricted from selling to any third party. (Signed) copy) " C. HUGHES, Juv." " See, to the Minion Extraordinary." The Meeting was adjourned to Wednesday, the 10th August. [Here follows a long Letter from Messrs. ADAMS, BAV ADD, CLAY, Ruesw.L, and GALLATIN, to Mr. MUNROE, dated the 19th of August, relative to a Icontefetice hetd that day, but which, !x want of rociO, we cannot give till Monday.] NO It OF THE BRITISH COMMISSIONERS: liteceiceil after the above l.etter was wrirreal " The undersigned Plenipotentiaric•; of his Mita!, 'ruc Majesty do themselves,the honour of acluaintiny the Pleriipotentiaries of the United Stites, that the. have communicated ui their Court the resul►_ of th, conference which they iaad the honour of holding with them upon the ninth instant, in which they sta ted that they were unprovided witH any specific in• strnctions as to comprehending the Indian nations in a treaty of peace to be made with Great Britain, and as to defining a boundary to the Indian territory. " The undersigned are instructed to acquaint the Plenipotentiaries of the United States, that his Ma jesty's Government having at the outset of the nego. ciation, with a view to the speedy restoration of peace, reduced as far as possible the number of points to be discussed, and having professed themselves willing to forego, on some important topics, any stipulation to the advantage of Gteat Britain, cannot but feel some surprise that the Government of the United states should not have furnished their Plenipotenti• aries with instructions upon those points which could hardly fail to come under discussion. Under the inability of the American Plenipoten tiaries, to conclude any article upon the subject of Indian pacification and Indian boundary, which shall bind the Government of the United States, his Ma jesty's Government coticeivs that they cannot give a better proof of their sincere desire for the restoration of peace, than by professing their willingness to ac cept a prcvisional article upnn those heads, in the event of the American Plenipotentiaries considering themselves authorised I'm :4r cede to the general prin ciples, urns which such an irtick ought te be f mnd• ed. With a view to enable the American tentiaries to decide, how fir the conclusion of such an article is within the limit of their general discre tion, the undersigi ed are directed to state fully and distinctly, the b .ses opon which alone Great Britain sees any prospect of advantage in the centinuanee of the negotiations at the present time. " U ad, rslgned h ,ve already had the honour o' stating to the A na rican Ilenipotentiaries, that in con sidering the poirts alsose teferral to, as a sine qua n of any tt. tty of peace, the view of the British Go vernmesit is the permanent tranquillity and security of the Indian n (Onus, and the is vention of those jea lousies .Inl irritations, to which the frequent altera tion of the Indian limits has heretofore given rise. " For this purpose it is ind7spensibly necessary that the Indian nations who have been, during the war, in alliance with Great Britain should, at the termination of the war, be included in the pacification. It is equally necessary, that a definite boundary should be assigned to the Indians, and that the con tracting parties should guarantee the integrity of their territory, by a mutual stipulation, not to acquire by purchase, or otherwise, any territory within the r.peci fled limits. The British Government are willing to take, as the basis of an article on this subject, those stipnlations of the treaty of Grenville, subject to mo difications, which relate to a boundary line. " As the undersigned are desirous of stating every point in connection with the subject, which may reason tbly influence the decision of the American Plenipotentiaries in the exercise of their discretion, they avail themselves of this opportunity to repeat what they have already stated, that Great Britain &tires the revision of the frontier between her North American dominions and those of the United States, not with any view to an acquisition of territory, as such, but for the purpose of securing her possessions and preventing future disputes. " The British Government consider the Lakes, from Lake Ontario to Lake Superior, both inclusive, to be the natural military frontier of the British pos• sessions in North America. As the weaker p'iwer on the North American continent, the least capable of acting offensively, and the most exposed to sudden invasion, Great Britain considers the military occu pation of these Lakes as necessary to the security of her dominions. A boundary line equally dividing these waters, with a right to each nation to arm, both upon the lakes and upon their shores, is calculated to create a contest for naval ascendancy in peace as well as in war. The power which occupies these Lakes should, as a necessary result, have the military occu pation of both shores. " In furtherance of this object, the British Govern %ens is prepared to propose 4 boundary. But as this might be misconstrued as an intention to extend their possessions to the southward of the Lakes, which is by no means the object they have in view, they are disposed to leave the territorial limits undisturbed, and as incident to them, the free commercial navi gation of the Lakes, provided that the American Go vernment will stipulate not to maintain, or construct,. any fortifications upon, or within a limited distance of the shares, or maintain or construct any armed vessels upon the Lakes in question, or in the rivers which empty themselves into the same " If this can be adjusted, there will then remain for discussion the arrangement of the north western boundary between Lake Superior and the Mislissippi, the free navigation of that river, and such a vaca tion of the line of frontier as may secure a direct communication between Quebec and Halifax. 4 4 The undersigned trust that the full statement which they have made of the views and objects of the British Government in requiring the pacification tiatiOrti petaisitiii genic. id di& miter es, will enableshe Anst.iican BknipotbntiaEyre t conclude a provisional article upon ihe basis above tined. " Should they feel it necessary to refer to the Go. vernMent of the United States for further instructions the undersigned feel it incumbent upon them to ac: quaint the American Pienipotentiales, that the Go. vernment cannot be precluded by any thing that has passed from varying the terms now propos^d, in such a manner, as the state of war, at the time of ming the conferences, may, in their judgment, render advisable. gg The undersigned avail themselves of this occasion to renew to the Plenipotentiaries of the United States, the assurance of their high consideration. (Signed) " GAMEICH. HFNItt " WILLIAM ADAMS. " Ghent, 19th August, 1914." In one of the American Papers there is a long de. tail of an attack made by a British naval and laid force, on the 15th September, on Fnrt Bowyer, on the point Mobile. The Americans repelled the attack, destroyed a British ship—the HERMES, of 24 or 28 gnas—and damaged the Sorum of 18. They boast . also of having killed and wounded 85 men on board the CARON, of 24 guns.—Another brig was present, name unknown. The land force consisted of 110 marines, VOO Indians, and SO artillerists. The Bria tis!) retreated towards Pensacola, whence they had come ; but the garrison expected another attack in st few days. NAVAL INTALLIGANC.R. FALMOUTH, NOVEMBER Arrived off this port the Sir Peter galhott, front Mani foe London—was captured on her passage by the Synm Amerie * privateer, of Baltimore; which privateer !sad alto taitnt, on the 2Sti Winn*, the Grace, Carbottear, of Pm* for A leant and Ca. diz, and two other vessels; sent two 01 them to Annie's, and pa the crews on board Sir Peter. TM Sir Peter is to tar 0 it, that she eannot possibly get in until the -troag gales, and squatty: PLYMOUTH, NOVEMBER 17. Caw in the rwo Brolvers i KNIOSTi from Co ; Arguitai, FrAIITt from Go. rusty; Lord Nasani boas', rtrtm Malan :cry leaky and sa.ls si hr. Nothing bailed sq.day. Wind %%.I.W. PORTSMOUTO, ie. No arrivals.—Cane into harbour hus Majesty's ship EDIN. imams. Smied his Majesty's ship 1 Timm to the Eastward, anti :he Onstrom for Yarmotgb Reads. Convoys as before. MAI.. NOVEMBER 18. Arrived and ivied for the River the Atalanta, &Imm, front the South Seas. Came down ltona the River about a dozen sail of West Indiamen, and remain with a large fleet of outward• bound.—Wind S. GRAVESEND, NOVEMBER 18. Arrived the Concord, Bradford, from Oporto; Lanky, 3cyers, from Rica; Alaeritz, Findlay, from the Cape of Good Hope; Nevo, Backer, from Sar.:andrr; Ranger, Hill, from the Isle of France; Aurnra, Mashattder, from Brest; Diana, loses, from Dieppe; Isabella, Bache, h u m the Isle Of France; Her. rules, Munro, from the Cape of Good Hope; Intrepid, Martin, from Barcelona; Lidn, Hood, from Mala2a ; ani Duke ut Brunt*, Strange, from Oporto. CORK, NOVEMBER 14. EZlthivon FLEET—the Fleet which sailed hence onViredness day morning, under convoy of his Majes y's ships I.c o NIDA s and trIIISENIA, put hack oh Saturday, owing to foul winds.--This morning the !Vet Division of the lst Dragoon Guards arrived and embarked on heard the transports ; another division is ex pected to-morrow.—l he Tit.itts, Captain lit a:Da/twat, and the BANTLit I Capr.WA it, arrived 4111 Satutday.—lhe BRAzim captain Sr triumo, takes convoy to GREENOCK, NOVEMBER.I6. This morning, the Homer, hay, of this pert, arrived front Quebec, after a passage of 32 days. The Homer sailed in a Beet from Brandy Pots, but parted convoy on the 22d ult. On the 3d inst. fell in with the Phoebe, Nereus, and Essea frigates, AM kept In company until the Bth. On the 7th inst. a strange sail, supposed to be an American privateer, was observed, to which the frigates gave chase, but were unable to come up with bee. The KING'S bodily health is at present excellent ; and his disposition unitOrmly cheerful. Is will be gratifying to the Public to know, that his MAJESTY, in his present seclusion, is not without exercise, ►r even amusement. He walks in a suite of ventilated 'A tmerics, and has, in his sitting room, los ►a vourite harpsichord, at which he passes several hours Wednesday the Duke of KENT arrived at Windsor Castle on a v►sit to the QUEEN. Yesterday his 1t0 74 1 Highness lett Windsor ior Castlebar-hill. The Duke and Duchess of CUMBERLAND are ex pected in England soon alter Christmas. Yester day A Court of Directors was held at the, East India House, when Captains HUGIIV, WELL, reAD. and MAYNE, were sworn into the conimatiet of the BRIDGEWATER, GENERAL HARRIS, and Art,as. We have received Paris Papers of Monday and Tuesday last. They contain no intelligence of much interest ; and the length and importance of our Ame rican news obliges us to deter our extracts until Monday. Yesterday the body of a man was taken out of the New River at Islington, supposed to have been mur dered, being much beaten about the head. Yesterday, Cornelius Grow 4, was committed from the Public-Ocfice, Bow•-scree,, charged with the wil ful murder of George Dixon, on the 20th of Augu t last, at a house in Vine -street, St. Mat tin's-lane. Dovza, Nov. 16.—The following are arrivals and departures from the York Hotel t November IL—Colonel and Mrs. DiAcuson and servants, to Pads; Mr. Stevenson and servant, from Paris to Loodun • Hon. Mr.Wallesley, from V.lenaa to London ; Mr. and Mrs. Hardy:. man and sere: nt, Mr. Cuninghant, and Mr. Wooden, from Paris to London ; Monsieur Lena, to I .onion. Nov. t 2.-sir Noel Hill, gait. from the Continent to London; Mr. Shore, Mts. Booth, Mona and M•4l. Demoug, Major Har. topp, and Mr. Mutsu, from Paris to London. Nov. 18.—Lord and Lady Malposs. and Sat.*, from Paris to London ; Austin Smith, Esq. M.P. and servant, to i?ariL Nov. 14.—Mr. and Mrs. Lynch and servant, and Mr. Bwers an .., m ounter ). to Paris ; Mr. Orondlire, from Paris to fi L m l on ; Mr. brown. King's Messenger, to %fiesta • Hon. Mt* Bagot, from Paris to London; Mr. Oawald and friend, to Par.; Mr. Collet and friend, to London. A