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- 40 il \ ~ • • .0 PAIIL NENTARY PAIOCEEDINGS. tgauSE O. LORDS, JULY 10. '_.~: - - - Them Am another ilatnienlinhen this day. At about a liarter to four o'clock the RJRofenareassoar, the Lou Onions:l.- .14a, and Viscount Mes.vnatz, sat robed as Lords Commis sionen for giving the Royal Assent; when the Commons, with the Stumm at their bead, baying come into this Holm. upon the summons of the Ifeentait'Usher of the Black Rod, his Ma lcom's Assent was nod&ed and declared to—The Post Horse - Ditties Bill, the Jails ( Rachemser Bills) Building Bill, the An nual Land Tax Commissioners Names all. the Prison Laws Consolidation Bill, the Ireland Court of Chancery Bill, the Army Mae-Money Distribution Bill, the Russian Marriages Validity Bill , the London Docks Company Bill, and a number of Private Bills. Upon the motion of the Earl of Sumenssause, the Recipros city of Duties Bill, the Faigiand and Ireland Customs Duties Bill, the Ireland Malicious Injuries Bill, the Cork General Ses sions Bill, and the East India Half-Pay Pill, were read a third time, passed, and ordered to be messaged to the Commons. The General Distilleries Bill was read a second time, and committed for to-morrow. LISIERICX LOCAL TAXATION. The Marquis of LA NSDOWN moved the Order of the Day for the third reading of the City of Limerick Regulation Bill. Ile understood the measure to be one of the highest Importance to the people of the South of Ireland; and, therefore, he was requested to present a Petition from the Chamberlain of the Corporation of Limerick, and two ether persons, who, even in this stage of the Bill, wished to be beard by Counsel against it. The Noble Marquis said, that he did not exactly know, after Counsel had been heard before the Committee, if it were allow stale to hear Counsel in the present stage of the Bill. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, that this• Petition was signed, as it appeared, by three individuals who were connected with the Corporation of the City of Limerick, and who assigned as their reason for the rehearing of Counsel, that the Bill would affect the interests of that body. The LORD CHANCELLOR (the• Usher of the Black Rod standing by) said, that he hoped their . Lordships would permit him to receive the other 4louse. Sir H. PARNILL, Mr. UtOGIMN and others, front the Com. room; brought up the Insolvent D;btors Acts Amendment Bill, and the County Palatine of Lancaster COurt Bill, which were afterwards read a first time. The Earl of LAUDERDALE (when the Commons had re turned to their own House) begged leave to add r that the Peti tioners did not state any grounds of their own, upon which they could be distinctly heard. The LORD CHANCELLOR, on inspecting the Petition, was of opinion that it proceeded on the very same grounds as that steady laid before the Committee. The Earl of ROSSLY N here appealed to the Chairman of the Committees, as to the impression he retained of the for mer Petition. 'The Earl of SHAFTESBURY .said, that it never was un derstood in the Committee, that because the Corporation were then allowed to be heard by Counsel, it was to be inferred that individuals might also be heard in like manner in a subsequent stage of the Bill. The Earl of ROSSLY N—" Iterceive that our Noble Chair man does no: differ from the conception I had of this business. The fltesem Petition goes to assert, In the face of your Lord ships, that it embraces points which affect the rights of the Cor poration of Limerick, although, as your Lordship are now aware, that body has already been heard against the Bill;- and it must be considered their own neglect, if, upon such an occasion, they omitted by Counsel to assert their privileges Aid protect their rights. Under such circumstances, the granting of this Petition will only be opening a door for delay. If the prayer be w eeded to, I can venture to assert that your Lordships will have established one precedent for a depat tore from all those salutary rules by which the proceedings of this House ought to be go verned. I our quite certain, my Lords, that such a Petition could never have been listened man , your Lordships at an earlier part of the Szssion ; and I am convinced, as I said before, that it is offered now merely to delay and prevent the passing of this Bill." Upon the motion of the Earl of LACUERDALI, the Petition, which had Wen read, was rejected. • The Earl of CI. A itt: moved to discharge the Order of the Day , which was agreed to; and the third reading of the above tocetiaried Bill was appointed for to-morrow. Upon the Motion of the Earl of SHAFTVSICILT, their Lord ships went into Committees on the Irish Church Rates Bill, the Law of Merchants Bill, the Ireland Passage-vessels Regulation Bill, the Irish Law Stamps Bill, and Viscount St. Vincent's An nuity Bill ; when the two first were reported with Amendments, and the latter three without any Amendments. At about Six o'Clock the House adjourned. • HOUSE OF COMMONS. The House was summoned in the usual form to attend the House of Lords, on occasion of the Royal Assent being given (by Commission) to several Ildls—(See Lords Report.) Mr. A BEACH° MBY gave notice, that he would, early neat Session, bring forward a Motion to improve the system of Representation in Edinburgh. He gave notice now, in the hope that he should, by so doing, stand acquitted in the eyes of the inhabitants of Edinburgh, who might have expected him to have made it this Session ; and also to give notice to all those who might feel an inclination to oppose the motion. Mr. BROUGHAM presented a Petition from Isaac Ritchie. a Lieutenant in his Majesty's service; praying for relief gene rally, for himself and other Officers, who were reduced in 1783. The Petitioner stated that his half-pay only amounted to ts. 2d. whilst other Officers bf a similar rank, but of a later promotion, enjoyed twice as much.—Brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table. The SAM Ron. Member presented a Petition from Colonel Williams, of Liverpool, a Justice of the Peace for the County of I...ncaster, setting forth that he had incurred a great expense in onosing the orders of the Magistrates for the County Rates, and p: tying that the ltlagistr atesemght be placed under some restric t, as to the future levying of County Rates.—Brought up, r ordered to lie on the table, and be printed. Sir J. S EMU G HT presented a Petition from the inhabitants of Flanistead, praying for the imposition of a duty un Leghorn straw bonnets.— Brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table. Colonel DAVIES postponed his motion respecting the French Indemnity until next Session. The East India Mutiny Bid was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. The House resolved itself into a Committee on the usual Ses sional Address.—The usual Resolutions - were agreed to, the I louse resumedaud the Report ordered to be received to-morrow. Th e G en eral Penit•nelary Bill was committed, the Report received and read, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. Mr. IiItOUGHAM presented a Petition from certain Me chanics of the Metropolis, praying for the adoption of blnOwen's plan. lie (*r. Brougham) had felt much hurt at hearing that that respectable body, the General Assembly of Scotland, had accused Me. Qwen of neglecting religion in his establisbnumt. Ile could atom, from his own knowledge, that there never was a school of any kind in *bids religion was more attended to.— Indeed, instead of there being too little religion, there seemed to be a disposition to go into the opposite extreme.—The Petition wants-ought up s read, and ordered to lie on the table. The Irish Law Expenses Bill was reads third time and passed. SCOTCH LAW COMMISSION SILL. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Scottish Law Commission Bill. Mr. BROUGHAII expressed a wish that care should be taken to have this Commission selected from persons well acquainted with the practice and constitution of the Seettish. Courts. He must also express his surprise that the Noble anil Learned Lord who presided in another place, and..with whom this Bin originated, never recollected. while he was so anxious to rake up the abuses of the-Scottish Courts,. that abuses existed mach nearer homea—in the Chan cery Court of England. He was surprised that the t liable Lord did not think that enquiry into abuses, like charity, ought to begin at home--(A That Noble Person had talked of the levaft oP proceediess in the Scotch Courts ; siosrhe-was certain Oat nese of the proceerfin in the ilitoseh" Voorts, kilo' seer prighetissyvaigist be half so prolix of tbeCourtOf Chaocery here were. \ bald as to deep that abuses is as thelleiNelings ofi Na one was 11111.1111 the Court of Chancery did exist ; for even Lord Eldon had acknowledged so, when he recommended that a Vice-Chancellor should be appointed ; but here Lord Eldon did not act exactly in coincidence with the opi nions of some other individuals well acquainted with the Court of Chancery, amongst whom was the late Sir Samuel Romilly; who said, we do not want a Vice-Chanc,elior, but a new Lord Chancellor. In this instance, however, as well as some others, Lord Eldon and Sir Samuel Romilly thought differently. Sir Samuel Romilly, however, only objected to Lord Eldon for a Chancellor because he joined political dirties with legal duties. He had to attend debates in the House, debates in the Cabinet, and audiences in the Closet; and what with Parliament, the Cabinet, and the Closet, the Noble Lord had not time to attend to the Court of Chancery. Bur, in addition to all. these duties, the Noble and Learned Lord had now taken uponhimself the office of Prime Minister—(4 laugh). It really was so. "As to Lord Liverpool being Prime Minister," continued the Hon. Gentle: man, " he is no -more Prime Minister than I am— (Hear, hear; and laughter). I reckon Lord Liverpool a sort of Member of Opposition ; and after what has recently passed; if rwere required, I should desig nate him as a Noble Lord in another place, with whom I have the honour to act'—(Muck laughter). — Lord Liverpool may have collateral influence, but Lord Eldon has all the direct influence of the Prime . Minister: he is Prime Minister to all intents and por - ' poses, and he stands alone in the full hxaccise of all theinfluence of that high situation. Loid Liverpool has carried measures against the Lord Chancellor — so have I : therefore I say that we act together. If Lord Liverpool carried the Marriage Act, I carried the Education Bill ; and if Lord Liverpool succeeded against Lord Eldon in some points on the Queen's trial, I say that I totally defeated him on that odious Bill of pains and penalties—(Henr.) I might just as well call myself Prime Minister as Lord Liverpool ; hehas no mare claim to the distinction than I have: he acts with me, and I with him, and I call him my coadjutor, and I trust we shall enjoy a long course of co-operation—(Laughter). I am sincerely glad of it, and long as I have sat and fought on this side of the House, I never welcomed a recruit to our body with greater satisfaction than my Lord Liverpool: Lord Westmorland's accession might have given me more surprise, but I am certain not more pleasure. With such powerful assistance, and especially with the distinguished and highly classical eloquence of Lord Westmorland, I should not much wonder it we were to make head against our opponents, and in time turn out Prime Minister Eldon. The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite appears to intimate the contrary; he entertains some doubt upon the point; and truly, I must myself admit that Lord Eldon seems to possess a grant of the place, not for the time being, but for the term of his natural life"—(fiear). The Hum Gentleman proceeded to express his strong disapprobation of the change lately made in the House of Lords in the administration of justice in the last resort. A private es-parte proceeding had been got up on this subject in the other House, t egard ing which not a word had been said, or even whis pered to whom? To no more nor less dial the Com mons House of Parliament. It was a measure, not a Bill—a series of resolutions adopted at the extreme, end of the Session, on a matter affecting the interests of all classes of the community ; and yet one branch of the Legislature had not been allowed the slightest participation. Was this or was it not treating the House, or the people it represented, as they ought to be treated ? He did not deny that the Peers had the power of taking this course—it might be abundantly legal, and at the same time extremely unconstitutional. The House of Lords ou jht to have pursued the old plain straightforward course, of sending down a 11111,1 and the times had been, when the Commons, if they had not carried an address would have voted resole- 1 tions expressing their indignation that this mode of proceeding had been abandoned. Lord Eldon, ilk 1813, had sent down a Bill : he then tried to do the job in that way ; but he did not like it, and he now prevailed upon the Peers to pass resolutions behind the backs of the Commons. In 1813, he had said, " I want a journeyman Chancellor, that I may get to the House of Lords ;" and in 1823, he declared, " 1 want a journeyman Speaker, that I may get to the Court of Chancery." If this last demand were acquiesced in, Lord Eldon might indeed attend in Chancery, or in the House of Lords, at his pleasure ; but he would be relieved effectually from all the burdens of his office, and the result might be that the practice would terminate of appointing a great and enlightened lawyer to the dignity of Lord Chan cellor. Once sever his judicial and political capa cities, by giving him only the last, and a second' Lord Shaftesbury thight be made Chancellor ; such a man as Charles 11. made his friend for turning into ridicule that illustrious statesman, LordCla tendon Lord Shaftesbury—the virtuous and pure Lord Shaftesbury—had, indeed, turned out a more honest Chancellor than he was a politician, and an instauce of the same kind in our own times was not wanting. If such were the case, a creature, a favourite, might in future be appointed Chancellor, and the Monarch himself might make a bargain for a part of the pa tronage belonging to the office. Such was the con sequence that Sir S. Romilly had predicted—his fears had been in great part realized. He had said it was possible that an a short time it might cease to be the practice to appoint a great lawyer to the office of Chancellor. To this it was answered that there would, nevertheless, be still a great lawyer in the House of Lords; but even that was to be done awaj with. Some fine gentleman taken from the Court, such as Roger North spoke of as going down to the House of Lords in a silk dress upon a gaily capari soned horse, might be chosen to preside in the Peers, who thought merely of the Court of our LOrd the King at St. James's, and never troubled himself with the Court of our Lord the King at Westminster Hall. Another objection to the resolutions was, that the House of Lords would be able to pay this new Speaker, without coming to the House of Coinages: 'at all :.for, by a sort of trick sad chicane, and for the purpose, aco doubt, of beightening,the station and premiering its dignity, he was to be Inclusied among acdoer-keepers and attendants of the Bass. Thu was not using the House of Cowen: well, sad the plan. used the pip* el Scotland at least ati tty un eareesatieusly they, were completely the decisions of Lord Eldon urns their tip and smut be dissetisfied with any new treassement; Tilt , / were even satisfied with mrLord Eldon's deei- sions, though they went against them, so great was their confidence in his integrity and his honour ; his experience, acuteness, and great legal knowledge; they knew, that whilst the present Lord Chancellor of Great Britain watched over them, the Courts below must be honest, whether they were so inclined or not; for they well knew, that if they acted otherwise, the Lord Chancellor was ready, and would not fail to pounce down upon them, and punish them for their faults. This he never failed to do, for he was no re specter of persons. - Talk of comments on Judge s as ' made in the House of Commons, why, he had heard Lord Eldon make such comments,and throw out such reproofs against Judges, from his place in the House of Lords, as he (Mr. Brougham) would have trembled to have uttered in his place in the House of Commons. — Under these circumstances, he must oppose the pre sent Bill, because he thought sufficient time had not been given for its consideration. Next, because he could not agree to havejourneymen Lord Chancellors, journeymen Speakers, and,, for anything he knew, journeymen Vice-Chancellors, and journeymen Nlas ters-crf the Rolls ; and, above all, because the Scotch people and the Scotch Bar, would not be satisfied at being deprived of the able superintendance and guar dianship of the present Lord Chancellor, whilst he retained the high situation he now held. (Hear, hear.) 'she ATTORNEY-GENERAL defended the Bill, and at the same time could not avoid observing, that -the attack which his Hon. and Learned Friend had turned aside to make upon the Noble and Learned Lord at the head of the profession, was uncalled for on the present occasion. His Hon. and Learned Friend had wished to impress on the minds of the Members of that House, that the political avocations of the present Chancellor interfered v ith'his attend ance in the Court of Chancery; such, however, was not the case; on the contrary, if his Hon. Friend would condescend to make inquiry, he would find that no Chancellor ever devoted more time to the duties of his Court than the present Lord Chancellor did. As to the proposed arrangement, it was not in tended to be a permanent one ; but was only adopted, if adopted it should be, to get rid of the present ar rear of business. As to the business of Scotch Ap peals, be was persuaded that the revision of the Jury Courts of Scotland would greatly lighten, if it did not entirely do away, the necessity of appeal, and he was inclined to believe that the right of appeal might soon he taken away entirely, without operating at all •to the disadvantage of the people of Scotland. Mr. Secretary CANNING said, that there could be no doubt of the existence of certain evils as con. l nected with the official character of the present ad- 1 ministration of the Lord Chancellor's duties, although doubts might exist with reference to the mode in which such evils were to be remedied by the Bill before the House. The Appellate Jurisdiction de manded a person of high talent, long experience, and the capability of strict and almost undivided attetoo tion ; and the question was, whether such a person I was likely to be provided by the present Bill ? Sup posing the Bill to be adopted, ought the HOuse to seize the present occasion, which appeared to him an improper one, of manifesting its jealousy with regard to the appointment of a new official personage? The best opportunity for such expression of opinion would ', be, after the substitute had been appointed, and the , plan had been put into some sort of operation, to dis cuss the subject when it should conic before the House in the shape of a question of salary. This would be quite conformable to the practice of the House. He held in his hand the votes of the House for several years, by which it appeared that the policy of parti cular offices had been discussed after the erection of such offices, when the proposition of salary wasl brought under consideration. It had been done is the case of Lord Shaftesbury. Formerly, indeed, the vote for salary used to be prospective, but by the im proved mode of doing business it had been made re trospective. The proposition for the salary was now included in the estimates. The question, therefore , would come before the House at an early period of the ensuing Session. He did not intend to pass any opinion on the merit of the proposed alteration, as a fitter occasion would present itself, when the machi fiery of the Bill had been put into operation, and something like experiment afforded to the House as a foundation for its decisions—(Hear). . Mr. ABERCROMBY said, this was the first and only opportunity the House bad had of discussing this subject, and it ought not to be allowed to pass over in silence now. This was a Bill - of the utmost im portance to Scotland ; and what he complained of was, that no opportunity bad been given to discuss it fully. Enquiry into the proceedings in. the Court of Chancery must take place. The Public had taken it up, and he did not know whether his Hon. Friend, the Member for Lincoln, would bring the subject forward again next Session; but if he did not, some other person must, for the public voice would 'not suffer it to rest where it was at present. With respect to the plan of a Deputy for the Chancellor in the House of Lords, one absurdity must attendit, and that was, that in many cases, the Deputy of the Lord Chancellor would be called on to judge of and decide, perhaps to reverse, the decisions of his master. Mr. J. WILLIAMS was not so much displeased with the proceeding as his Hon. and Learned Friend. The Bill seemed to be neither directly good nor bad. It might do some good, it would not do much harm, and there was an end. He would not object to it. Besides, he hailed it as an admission obtained from the Committee of Peers, that there- was some defect, and that some remedy must be applied. He valued it, therefore, because it 'was one step towards ap proaching the greater mischief, the- whole subject, of which it formed almost an insignificant fraction—he meant the Court of Chancery itself. Early in the next Session of Parliament he would again call the atten tion of the House to the delays in this Court, and the eauses thereof. Mr. PEEL said, he had rather prefer delivering his opinion when the measure should be fully before dm Home in the ensuing Session. 'sr. WETHERELL said, that though the House dim* bad a right to alter its own appellate juris- Shidaa, yet if there was anything wrong in - it there was a sower in the House of Commons to inquire Into it. • He hoped that the introduction of Jury into Scotland would have the effect of diminishing die number of appeals from that country, and then the Lord Chancellor would be able to deal with the Ifsele.of them, after the present great arrear had been goi rid of. As to the whole of the new plan, he should withhold his opinion for the present; but, he could SILT, that ileOtAdllot-lella x bantt to r :,l down the present system of British jorispredence. Mr. DENNIAN hoped the present Bill would g'; rid of the necessity of resorting to such an and useless Judge as a Deputy Lord Chancellor ; a:l d he called on the Member for Mnntrnse to °purs e every grant of civil contingencies to this new office r . The Bill was then read a thitd time, and passed: Mr. WILBERFORCE gave notice, that he would to-thortow, move respecting the Slaves and rteei 4 . dians in Honduras. Mr. HUME said, it had been stated that Mr. Adam s , the new Governor of India, had immediately sent o ff (after the departure of the Marquis of ['aglow.) 11,. Buckingham, the Editor of The Calcutta .Journal. Mr. W. WYNN said it was true that he had th at morning received advice of Mr. Buckin:Jla m sent to Europe. This had been on account of hi s car.. tinuing that line of conduct, for which he had receired repeated warnings from Lord Hastings. lie was unt yet in possession of the facts; hat he had eveiy ca liance on the excellent discretion of Mr. Adams. QUARANTINE LAWS AT MALTA. Mr. HUME rose to make a motion on the subject of the Quarantine Laws. He observed that it 1 44 well known the European Powers. had made a reg u . lotion which was common. to them all for th e la „, vention of the importation of the plague in th e ' Southern ports of Europe. Owing to a relaxation of those regulations 'in 1813,. the plague made its ap, pearance in Malta ; this occasioned Malta to Ise et. Chided from free pratique with Europe, whic . b never had been before. So strict were these reis e tions in other countries, that the Neapolitan Princes, Maria Caroline, the bride to the Duke of Betri, t , well as the Duke himself some time afterwards vet obliged to' perform the ordinary quirantine. The rely contrary practice was followed by Sir T. Maitland, insomuch so that all confidence aas now lost in tish vessels navigating the Mediteri anean Sea. Beals objected to the arbitrary lowering of raising the dutn on corn imported into Malta, as being li.tble to ve i great abuse; and cotacluded by moving for a Copy of the Correspondence between 0 - It:Governor cf Malu, the Colonial Office, and the Committee sof Mercha s of Malta, or. the subject of the Quarantine La ws. Mr. WILMOT-HORTON observed, that the scie of duties on the importation of corn into Mahar; arranged always proportionably to the import pia of corn, which, of 'course, must always be vary*, without there existing any improper motive for tit• ing or lowering the duties The regulation; of qe rantine at Malta were held by the Malte,e 'Lerch= themselves to be the most perfect in the Mediterranea Sea. It was true, that men of war were liable tom exception in their favour, because the practice of er purgation took place every day on board a King ship, which it was the object of the Quarantine Lan to enforce. Neither in Naples nor Marseitles stet the quarantine regulations so strict as in Malta. k was true, thatahe Governor, Sir Thomas Maitland,ha made an excursion to Tunis, which place was sup posed to be one liable often to the plague, whereheir mained but two days at the house of the British The plague, however, had not been there lot ten before, nor did it brea kl out for three years after his • • ' On his return, it was not considered necessary that should undergo the forms of quarantine, expel! because he went and returned on board of a Kite ship. The Hon. Member here referred to atrial documents from different Consuls abroad, whii stated, that the system of our quarantine at Mgt was completely perfect, and required no imptov meet. He hoped the House would be convinced thee was no occasion for him to make another obsery • on this topic ; but if the Hon. Member still teq any papers on the subject, he should feel pleasure in furnishing them for his perusal. • ' Mr. HUME explained, that his complaint that there was no Board of Health at Malta. He clined moving for any particular papers, hoping the Hon. Member would lay before the House extracts which might throw a light on the subject Mr. WILMOT-HORTON said he should have objection to do so.—The motion was then withdra PENITENTIARY. Mr. HOLFORD moved for Extracts of the Minutes of . 11 Committee of Managers of the Penitentiary, relative to *I lowance of bread granted to prisoners in confinement io thit, son. He was induced to snake this Motion in amsegmes its having been feported that the persons confined there very insufficient allowance of bread.—The Motion wrap to, and the Papers ordered accordingly. The Slave Trade Acts Consolidation Bill eras read s tii time and passed. The Marriage Act Amendment Bill was read a third ti and passed. The Report of the New South Wales Duties Bill was no to, and the BM ordered to be read a third time to-morrow• The Newfoundland Courts Bill was read a first thne, mil dered to be read a second time that day three months. On the Motion of Mr. S. arca, various Returns connectedo the Diocesan and Parish Schools in Ireland, were ordered* in the next Session. The Foreign Marriages Validity was read a second* and committed for to-morrow. A person front the Penitentiary, Millbank, presented 0 1 Returns relative to that Establishment. Adjourned at a Quarter to Nine o'Clock. The Dublin Evening Post says—ed Two boors or farmers have been Srought over from land at the expense of the Linen Board, for the pose of instructing the peasantry of this coultrl the cultivation and management of flax, which it understood, and such a source of national wealth, Holland. These men are now going through County of Cork, from whence they are to proceed Yerry,and afterwards to Limerick, Clare, Galway,* On the Ist of July the Civil Commissary af Most Christian MAJRSTT, Mr. de MARTIGWA4 name of his Sovereign and of his Royal Hightail Duke of AwoouLaaia, in the presence of several nerals and Spanish Chiefs, presented with great 01 . moray to the Madrid Regency, fifty s tandards irr were taken by the French troops in the last sisal order to place them at the feet of his Catholic 31 1 ' jesty FERDINAND VIL " when he returns to ocell the Throne of his ancestors."-,-.French Paper. The KING of PRUSSIA gives particular encoattr ment to the Societies formed in his kingdom fad conversion of the Jews to Christianity._ He has' thorised them to correspond together postage ht. The decision of the Great Council of Fri!' against the system of mutual instruction, is add have produced a bad effect on. the whole The Superior of the Primary Schools at Fr his five assistants, have ceased their waiting for. the notification of the .1 not submit to the Jesuits. • ;. .". • il