Star. — London, England, 1810-05-05 00:00:00

, but throirgh his %vhole lite, he those principles which had ob proposed the Resolution of thanks was carr ied unanimously as to many dissenting voices Its so , that the Thanks of the "en to the Sheriffs for their good to preserve the peace of the the military. in returning thanks:, said that already an account bf his con. the removal of the roilitarY ) Factory .to the people of Eng. from many.)—There was ano. rich he thought it necessary to improper constructions had When he was ordered to wait, •dett, at the Tower i by the he thought it was proper to tate. (Right! right! mom ided in the same manner to go address to Sir Francis Burdett on by the Livery.—(Bravo !) he was discharging the du . iisterial situation .— (Loud ap- declared, that he felt himself of his public conduct met with , who had elected him as She• obliged to differ from them itt the sincerest regret. As to go- Ton Sir Francis Burdett, he so without dishonouring the it be expected, that he would in the same mitre:able manner on his Sovereign ?--( Burdett ' froth numbers.)—He should opinion coincide with theirs ; ice was so great, he must be necessity of disobeying their order. .. state ! go in state !) )bservations from different per adjourned. Ipy of the Petition, as it was 'HE COMMONS OF THE UNITED BRITAIN AND IRELAND, IN ;61BLED. 'MONSTRANCE, and PETITION .LDIftMEN,. and LIVTRY , of the City Malta-mem!)led, this 4th day of May, Layor, Aldermen, and Livery in Common Hall assembled, of the most anxious concern, imble Address, Petition, and earnesly entreat your Honour it a favourable reception ' • for redress and relief, if the bare wrongs and grievances of which ire We also beg yourHonour= that, in the languageWe may ire, indeed, compelled to ern- . lded to your Hon. Ho'mse. which most deeply ::fflicts us, _ —.kingly impels us at this time to ap- Honourable House, is, what appears to tour part, a violation of the per people of the land. We humbly law, and against • law, you of }our fellow-subjects ; and without a hearing, you have Isv requires legal proc:ess and equals : justice demands that no tutor, Juror, Judge, and Exe tuse. We beg leave to express eternal principle of immutable ‘ulled by any• House of Commons ly Parliament—by anf ' It it appears to us that your las, in the instances of Mr. John incis Burdett, assumed, accu all these oBices. which we owe to you, to our ,osterity, to state, that, in our con - ion is unfounded, and we .:lare our opinion against the power in any hands; a jurisdiction '•• above the law, and which could military violence—a violence breaking open of an. Englis- 1 the precediiir; and subsequent tad unoffending citizens. y to observe, that the construe mable House prevents our sur of your Honourable House.— the details, in-often and so Honourable Howie, by which it of three hundred Members of House, in England and; ,Wales by the people, -is upy honest .'eople, but are cent t`d ,. your Ho the absolute nomination or power ore hundred and fifty Peers and a petition to your Honourable '93, and which remains on your :ed. This is the great constitu ;ountry. This is the true root Iptions,. and optwessions under it be not eradicated, the nation our sincere conviction, we need never-to-be-forgotten Vote of your • refusing to examine evidence en Castlereagh and Mr. S. Pea- King's Ministers, for traffick- Honourabli House. well, that when it was gravely offered, in a petition which stands ' the complaints whereof are now than twenty years," That Seats House of Commons were as bought as the standings for then Honourable House treated affected indignation, and the Mi -anish the petitioner , fo r present and libellous petition." But we House of Commons avow the traf those accused of this breach of law has been equally committed by a practice was notorious as the At this vote, and at these pntc ontancestertwotild.have felt," and expression of a our indignation" t i l ' r ough his NfaYoral . tt, ihnu id persevere in tha t ined their applause. Mr. QUIN then propos to t he Sheriffs, which sh er d Wood, but with sheriff Atkins. Mr. FAVELL said, Meeting should be given conduct and exertions t Ci t y, without the aid of Mr. Sheriff Noon, in h e hoped he had given al duct with respect to th which would be satisfac ist i.—.(Perfectly so, fro riser circumstance, which knew that i sat e, as he been put upon it. Whi dp o u Sir Francis Burch County of Middlesex ; he 1 0, as a Sheriff;ntended in stem abers.)—He i ; l eak to present the add that was now resolved or In so d o i n g, he thought ties attached to his minis Oust) lb. sheriff ATKINS di harpy w hen any part of t h e a pprobation of those r e, When he wavobl op i n ion, it gave him the jug in rule to wait up t hnaglit he could not do office of Sheriff. Could tacit nn an individual in as ii he was waiting or deserves every honour ! I be happy to have his but when the difference under the painful necessi —(Load cries of Go in After a few more ohm no, the Meeting was ac The following is a col rad at the Meeting To THE HONOURABLE Tli KINGDOM OF GREAT PARLIAMENT ABSEiIBLI Dr humble ADDRESS, REII of the LORD MAYOR % 01. LI d London, in Common 1810. We, the Lord Ma ti the City . of London, tc leave, with feelings 11:N.ent this our bun leminstrance, and we e ink House to give to it low can we hope for n voement of the wrongs omplain, be rejected ? able House to believe th lase occasion, and are ; ploy, no offence is - inten The circumstancl v ad which most strongly 'mach your Honourable uto have been, on your anal security of the peo: conceive, that without have imprisoned two a that, without a trial, v condemned them. Las trial by Jury of our eqtr person shall be Prosecus cutioner in his own caus our conviction that this e it3tice cannot be annulle —by any King—by any kale upon earth. But Patettrable House has, titiones anti Sir Frar atted, anti exercised 0 We feel it a dutv alas, to our posteri ty option, this jurisdicti !tinily but firmly decl cadence of this power taknown—a power abo be enforced only by n +Dade manifest by the h roan's castle, and by t aprder of peaceable an " Permit us humbly tent of your HonouraL at this cond uct o i I . v _e will not enter i nto ably stated to your He appears, that upw ar d s lour Honourable Hot ( PIY, are no: elected b ' est of the word Peo l fri au l inatable Ho use . by the finea o f about 01 ~others„ as, s averred in a in the year 174' partials uncontroverted 61 11 disease 01 . all evils, of our cc whith .e .Ilae corrup hour. If ii '" u a perish. • *i n suppo r t o r th . h 1 Y refe r o tianourel3 , si r the neve: nga cbar g ll ins o : i Lo ses ;d el `` . v. ll , then t wo of the it,;,, seats in you r H o We rem em b er we *tr u e ed ' a nd Pr9of offe Yourjournals, _ and t for L . se i :lior more tl tion i n t h e no musl l • ale at ,..7111ea an:4 t h e a _ 4 a f a i r,', t h e U s assertion with iff I : 4tert hretened mg a “ se to pot ious • have iiv an ath ed ick, and to see a Ho anetrint. screen t h ose all pAi e 4 a ause it h Xll at n on „' „ t _ ind w as a tice; — •-•"1" A nn Vie feel as 44 onr.l ta --ot rent.- •aaddi s mix. es gust% " tact thtke eitibitiktnee4 314 tkiinot be he t' knitted to ask, where is your justice, w h ere your. dig nity Mr: John Gale Jones is confined Within the walls of Newgate for an alledged offence against your selves, which, if committed againstany other subjects. of these realnis, or even against the King himself, must have been judged' by the established rules and laws of the land! Lord Castlereagh ccintlifued to be a prin cipal Minister of the Croorn, and is now a free Mean berof yd sr Honourable fl use I Sir Francis Burdett,' dragged by a m4itaryforcu from the bosom of his family, is . committed to die TOwer for exercising the right of constitutional discussion,cortamon and, in deed, undeni a bl e , to you, to Us,. t o Mr. Spen cer Percevvil continues . ' :Metiiier i lir your Ho nourable House, taking a 'kid iiiyour!creltberations, the first Minister o f t h e Crown; .and the Chief Advi ser of the Royal Conneili 4. Under the agonizing fe.elingsexcited by the late imprisonment'of our fellow-subjects, can it be neces sary for us to recapitulate themanY instances, as thus appear- twun, of rtflisals'ti) institute just and neces miry enquiry,' to pursue to condign punishment pub ' lic delinquents and pecuhtork to economize the means and resources of ,the State, to administer to the people relief and redress for the various disgraces which the. national honour has sustained, for the lavish profusion of British blood and treasure, extra vagantly wasted in ill-cdntrived and fruitless cam paigns, and more particularly in the humiliating and ignominious expedition to the Coast of Hol- ' land, in which the greatest armament that ever left our shores was exposed to the scorn, contempt, and ridicule of the enemy; the flower of our youth waste fully and wantonly left ingloriously to perish in the pestilential marshes of Walcheren, without succour, without necessity, without object, without hope ! e• These and similar proceedings of your Honour able Hodse require no comment, but we cannot by our silence become accomplices in the ruin of our country, and dare not conceal from you the whole some, though unpleasant truth, that they appear to us to have materially shaken what remained of the con fidence of the subjects of these realms in the wisdom of your Honourable House. ;6 We the: efore humbly, but firmly, entreat you to reconsider your conduct, to retrace your steps, and to expunge from your Journals all your orders, declara tions, and resolutions, respecting Mr. Gale Jones and Sir Francis Burdett; and that as Sir Francis Burdett has not been expelled from •our Honourable House, he be no longer prevented from exercising therein all the duties of a Member of the same. •' Above all, we earnestly pray your Honourable House, in conjunction with Sir Francis Burdett, and in conformity to the notice he has given, to devise and adopt sash nmsures-as will effect an immediate and radical Reform in the Commons House of Parlia ment, and ensure to the people a full, fair, and sub stantial Representation, without which they Must in. evitably cease to exist a great, a free, a glorious, and independent nation." COUNTER MEETING OF THE LIVERY. In consequence of the 'following invitation circu lated very generally amongst the Livery, " Thursday, May 3, 1310, You are requested to meet at the London Tavern, Bishops gate:street, to-mdrrrow, Friday, the 4th day of May instant, at slx o'clock in the evening, on business of great importance, and to bthirlitith you as many of your Friends en the Livery as can possibly attend:* A Meeting war cenvened yesterday evening at the London Tavern, Bishopsgate-street. About half-past six o'clock, upon the motion of Mr. Samuel Dixon, Mr. Alderman Christopher Smith was called to the Chair- As Mr. Dixon was about to rise, an application was made to our Reporter to know whether he was a Li. veryman or not? he having answered in the negative, it was then intimated to him that lie could not remain in the room. We of course are unable to g ive a re port of the speeches of Mr. Dixon and Mr. Acheson, but we understand, that they both severely reflected upon the conduct of the Common Hall that day as sembled, and expressed their determination to submit Resolutions, protesting against its decision. About seven o'clock numerous parties of Liverymen entered the room, and demanded, that as it was a public discussion, up e on a great public question, the ehors should be open to the Livery at largo. Considerable tumult then prevailed, and cries of " No Private Committees—no Clandestine .issociationt," were re peated throughout the assembly. Mr. Waithman offered himself to the notice of the Chair. Accla mations and groans from the respective parties were so reiterated, that not a Word Could be heard. At length Mr. Waldman obtained a hearing. He observed that the former speakers, Mr. Dixon and Mr. Acheson, the Gentlemen - who were most active in arranging this meeting, which was to protest against the pr4Cedings of the Livery in COnnnon Hall, founded the Propriety of acceding to their re ' solutions upon the partiality and the injustice, so evi. dertly in their opinions, exhibited at the meeting in Guildhall that day. Deprived, as they asserted, of the'opportunity of freely discussing that great public question, in such an assembly, they resorted to a more I private and more impartial meeting, in order to ar. rive at a calm and correct decision. Behold the illus tration of their justice and impartiality ! They en deavour covertly, and by the exclusion of every thing like an opposition, to contend that their Resolutions speak the voice of the Livery itself. They who up braid the Common Hall with turbulence and indeco ' rum, prove the contrasted propriety of their own conduct,by an intemperance, which, if.not unequalled, was never exceeded in any Common Hall assembled within his memory. I Mr. KIlMaLs called to order. He did not see what hilliness that Gentleman (Mr. Waithman) had at a I meeting convened for a particular purpose, to which he could not be - considered friendly. (Considerable uproar, and cries 'of "'Mr. Waithman i: in pone lion of the Chair.") I Mr. WAITHMAN. I call upon you, Mr. Chairman, I to say, whether you can preserve order or not? I am I entitled to have your attention ; and am determined not to surrender my right. - Mr. MOOITYORD expressed a wish to obtain Mr. Waithman's consent to address the meeting for a few moments.---( Mr. Waithman acquiesced.) fhen, said ' Mr. Mountford, as I never will blink any question to which I am inclined to give my support, I say that , this meeting is called for the purpose of protesting ' against the Resolutions of this day in the Common PARLIAMANTARr PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, MAY 4. . The Committee of Privileges sat on the Roxburgh Peemge.— Sir SAMUIL Romit.r.r was heard f4r I. Ismis Kate, Esq. and ADAM Esq. for Geperal Kna.--Eurther proceedings were appointed for 'Tuesday next. REVERSION DILL. Earl GROSVENOR mord, that in consequence of the ab sence of several Noble Lords, who might wish to sl , e.k on the Reversion Bill, he should postpone the discussion, which stood for this day, to Thursday sc'nnight. POOR CLERGY. Lord HOLLAND noticed the passage in the King's Speech which instructed Parliament to make provisions for the poorer Clergy, and gave notice of his intention to make three motions on the subject :—First, for the amount of the Fund of Queen Ann's Bounty ; secondly, for the application; thirdly, the amount of small livings ; aid, fourthly, for the number of benefices in free towns and corporations. 'the Noble Lord intimated, that his object was to prove that the poor Clergy suffered by the emo luments derived by the rich Clergy. The ARCHBISHOP of CAN I'ERBURY said, the Papers already produced would give the Noble Lord the most material part of the information which he wanted. His Grace thought the 'louse would not agree to the Noble Lord's motions, unless very cadent grounds were laid fur the adoption of them.— Thursday next was a day when it would be very inconvenient for the 13:shops to attend, as the most of them would be engaged on that day. We understood his Grace to allude to the Meeting of the Sons of the Clergy. The BISHOP of-I,ONDON made a few observations to the same effect. : Lord HOLLAND had not foreseen the occurrence of the Meeting alluded to, or be would have proposed ►omc other day, as be wished to make his nmtio i perfectly convenient to the Right Reverend Prelates. 1 4 1: therefore shoutl propose Friday next, if that were not hiconvenient also. It was then agreed that the Noble &iron's motions should he made.. ot. Itiday nest ; and their lordships were ordered to be summoned. Sewral private Bills were received from the jourued. 1 HOUSE OF COMMONS. " ft Mr. SHARPE gave notice of a motion relative to the 15th Report of the Commissioners of Naval Revision. The Judges 's Salary Bill was read a third time and passed. The Foreign Linen Duty Bill and the West ladles insurance Bill were read a second thne, and committed for Monday. Mr. A. COOPER presented certain Papers relative to the Orduanee Department, which were laid on the table. The Cernatic ConmlinionersOill, on the motion of Mr. DUN DAS, was read a third time and passed. Op the motion of Mr. W. POLE, a copy of the Tenth Report of thb n pnunissloners for inquiring into the ere of the Jails in Ink was laid before the House. Mr. TAYLOR gave notice, that he would on Tuesday, the 22d, move for a Select Committee to ascertain cutain salts in the Court of Chancery. • LONDON DOCKS. Mr. HAWKINS BROWNE brought up the Report of the London Dock CoMmittee. Mr. HENRY THORNTON expresaed his disappromaadon of the SUL He wished, that the cunsideration aught be post poned. Mr. W. SMITH likewise objected to the BUI, and that on two grounds: let, that nothing of use was already done; and, Sdly, because it was sanctioning a system of monopoly, which Must be injurious. He was sure, if the Honourable Gentlentan esprosite were acqualated with• particular facts, he would endeavour to do it away. . Afters few words. the Amendments were rea4 mid agreed to, oild ordered to be engrossed. r .ittn to • • • t . . * that and oat ga g - tt • to - iiitrude Who is titit. . !.7 . `-' 4l :Aili, ._., '''' . ~ , a 'tripes*" iiriththeptifprietyOr acceding to that Protest. 1 The SPkAXER called the attendee aft wpm iii a* de. Mr. Wareustax-rhis meeting, as appears by the i eutnarance of persons who opposed Private Ws, k!sping back oppsisltion teen s few days or the RePOrt being made* Is mice Which I hold in my hands — [ he here . read the 1 ' herr l i ? l ough Bills hale been know n to .be lhiree moiatiss before tbo notiee given as above,) was called for no Such deb- great expeoce the other parties, and which ear . r,ite purgose; it was called generallyi'and therefore i cerns7:iice iv e ould probably call Dm sante regulation in the ease , to think Of a clandestine decision, was a high and ag- ' IngSeukm gravated insult upo n th e great b o d y o f our f i llow- assets= ivaxii. • , c - itizens. Thi s not i ce was sent round yesterday' , abd i her. C. DUNIiAS said; it was his intentlbn to hrlrig forward a diet these gentlemen have the hardihood to tel you, I motion n o r rt p h e : t A in s ff k the grievance and oppression h attending the col: that it was to ctinvene a meeting for the purpose of ' the Chancellor of the Exchequer had taken The rt a i d h b je e et un u d n e d r er his protesting against a decision which did not take place I consideration. until this day, an d o f w h ose R esolut i ons they were of 1 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, h e h a d deh a Bill on the subject, which he would bring forward course, ignorant !—[Cries of Hear ! Hearn—This I b e wifore him m w o o r uld . recoinmend it to the House, if no device has failed—the stratagem has recoiled upon its t ta b - -th ei c - w w t as p y, 711 e likely to meet the approbation of the authors! and, feeling as Ido the high indignity of- House, fered by the attempt upon the character of the Citi- Mr. ORENFELt, said, be would wait until the Bill was intro. zens of Londo n , i t i s m y d uty t hi s night to submit , duced, and if he did not approve of it, he would submit a motion • to this meetin g certa i n R eso l ut i ons. I therefore move 4 to Ai House on the subj ect . i you, Sir-- SPAIN. A short conversation took place between Mr. Sheridan and the The CIIAIRPitAN expressed his determination to put Chancellor of the Exchequer, relative to Papers whichwere moved no Resolution proposed by Mn Waithman. [Cries of ! for respectin g the campaign in Spain. It concluded by Mr. She. " Move him out o f the Chair. Chair."] , ridan ditional 's giving noticetha that subj ett he would on Tuesday next mo v e f or a d- ! Papers on t Mr. Warrusiam—As his Worship Mr. Alderman i C. Smith, whom I li tt l e expecte d to se e act i ng such a 1 Mr. SHARPS EXCH.% \Gil OF PRISONFRI. iven notice observed that he h a d g part in such a place, has refused Caput t h e quest i on I i of a motion relative to the n e goe l at i on for exchange was about to propose ; I h ave now to move this meet- 1 of prisoners with France ; but as he understood that' ing that he do leav e th e Ch a i r , an d t h at M r. Nichol- I this was now on foot, and that many exertions were son be pleased to take it. (M ove , move. ) Th e ques- 1 tion was then put and c arrie d i n t h e affirmative, by a making, with hope s o f success , f or t h e present h e majority. • f withdrew it. • Mr. Alderman SMITH continuing in his Chai r , M ri Ntenousox took the one opposite, and briefly stated; that he felt fully sensible of the duty that Meeting had imposed upon him, and hoped he would exercise it to their satisfaction. He wished them to recollect, that this assemblage of merchants, traders, and bankers, as they styled themselve s , made the alledged turbulence of the Common Hallos the pretext for this secret and concealed attempt to impose upon the public. When, however, the vigilance of some part of the Livery defeated the plot, in what manner did these friends to order and decorum conduct them selves ? They endeavoured by uproar and by me. 'laces to prevent their artifices being exposed. Look at them now, conscious of their defeat, getting into corners and closets to procure signatures for that which if they had ventured to bring before an As sembly legally and constitutionally convened (Hear I hear I) they well knew would not for one single mo ment be listened to. Whatever Resolutions were pro posed, he felt it his duty to submit to the decision, and to acquiesce in their will. Mr. WatnistaN then proposed the following Reso lutions, which, being duly seconded, we carried by acclamation. • Resolved, That it appears that this Meeting was privately con vencd, with a view of counteracting the irocteedings of the Li ven' of London, this day legally and publicly convened in Guildhall; and that such a measure is highly improper, and de serving of the reprobation of the Livery at large. Resolved, That we do lithly approve of the Resolutions and Petition this day agreed to at a Meeting of the Livery In Com mon Hall, respecting the extraordinary power assumed and ex ercised In the imprisonment of John Gale Jones and Sir Francis Burdett, Bart. and the necessity of a Reform In Parliament. Resolved, That Alderman C. smith, having refused to put the goes; ion upon Resolutions repeatedly moved, has acted in a par tial and itnproper manner, and is not entitled to the confidence of his fellow Citizens. Resolved, That the 'Planks of this Meeting he given to Mr. John Nicholson, for his highly meritorious conduct in the Chair. The Protesters gradually retired into an adjoining room, and signed the Resolutions advertised in the front of this Paper, ' CRIMINAL LAWS. Sid SAMUEL ROMILLY said, he rose for die ptiipose of moving for a return of the males and fe males convicted of capital offences in England aal Wales for the last three years, the number punisheJ, and those enlarged, not including those committo t for forgery and murder, as these were crimes to which his Bill had no reference. It was important to kno.e the fact, as not less than 4800 had been tOMITIitUi • iu one year. Without any reference to his Bill, he conceived it necessary that the House should be in possession of the information, for the purpose of knowing the state of morality and the state of the police of the country. Information he understood o the subject had been given by several Clerks of As. size, and he was of opinion that there could be n - difficulty in obtaining it from the remainder. Ht. ' deplored that his Bill on the subject of stealing ie dwallingehouses miscarried, but it did not appe.tt tha: the House was decidedly against it, as it war. lest only by a majority of two. It did not appear to him that it was thrown out on its merits, but bnett.e Geetlemen did not approve of the doctrines he ad vanced. It was therefore his intention, eel:) , in the next Session, to move for leave to bring in a similir bill He expressed his concern that the subject should be considered a party question, and complained of the thin attendance of Members when the merits of the bill were discussed. It could not be said the subject was of little importance, as it went to alter the cri minal law, whereby the lives of 7 or 800 indiv iJu ds were involved. He concluded by moving, " That an humble Address be pmented to his Majesty, that bibs graciously pleased to order to be laid before the Hauge a Return of the Males and Females conunitted to Gaol in Eauland and Wales, during the years 1807, 1808, and 1809, distinguish. ing the ci hues for which they were committed, dbtinguishinithe number discharged by proelatnation, and the windier capitally convicted and executed." Mr. Secretary RYDER said he did not rise to ob. ject to the motion, as he agreed with the Honotrrabie and Learned Gentlemen that it was proper to have every possible information on the subject. Every pains hAd been taken to lay the ret urns befote the House in the most perfect. state possible, hut he doubted much whether it was possible to procure a correct re turn of what his Honourable and Learned Friend required. It had been observed that there was an uniformity of opinion among several of the Members on the side of the House where lie sat, but surely the same observations would apply to the Learned Gen tlemen and his friends; but yet he (Mr. Ryder) de. nied that it was made by any means a party question. Sir THOMAS TURTON agreed in the necessity of a full attendance, which he hoped would be the case when the Bill would be brought forward a se cond tine. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed that he could not see any difficulty in the Hen. Gentleman's having procured a large atten dance, in that case those who opposed it would not , be likely to be in view ; any opposition he was coni dent was totally exempt from party spirit; Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY stated that the returns alluded to bythe Secretary of State were not produced on his motion, but were a long time in circulation. The question was then put, and- the motion was carried. Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY gave notice, that he would move on Monday for the returns of the con victs transported to New South Wales since 1805. TRANSPORT SERVICE. Mr. HUSKISSON in a few preliminary obierva. Lions, stated that he wished the con.ideration .of the Navy Estimates, which stood for Monday, might b.: postponed, in consequence of his not being furnished with certain papers He would now move ' “ That re be laid before the House, Accounts of the hired Transports in the service, with their several tonnage. Ike. specifying their stations and the number of sea• men employed in navigating them." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had no objection to the Motion • but with regard to what his Honourable Friend had stated respecting the postponement of the consideration of the Navy Esti mates, he did not see any particular reason for s ) doing. There had been an antecedent rote of 130,000 seamen which was now encrqs'ed to 145,000. —On this subject he was convinced from the know ledge his Hon. Friend possessed in navy affairs, that he would have all his arguments ready on Monday when it was arranged to take these estimates Into consideration, and those of the army on Wednesday. Sir C. POLE wished to make a few observations relative to the Navy. He thought it proper to vote a sum equal to the maintenance of 15,000 men, if it was intended that the service should not be injured. One circumstance, in point of humanity, ought to come under the inspection of the House : he alluded I. those seamen on harbour duty, who, after a period of 17 or.lB years service, were then obliged' to in• dergo the severest labour among convicts. Front the osier parts of the estimates, thi% vote would appear unnecessary ; besides, it would be preferable to not basse those men in the present aspect eE affairs . La . France, many of whom have not been on shore shwa the year 1795 ; a reduction IVIS absolutely :V ~1~ I Lbsolately necessarAp