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. pnlsion from that House. If upon a dispassionate and careful review of the case itself,, under all its circum stances, the House should think the conviction was erroneously pronounced, and the judgment of the Court below erroneously founded, be hoped he had no deficient sense of that high honour which ought to fasten itself upon the conduct of a Member of that House, or that he should not be backward in visiting that case, it it should be found to be due to it, with that vote of eepulsion which was usual in such cases; but he protested against being bound to come to such a conclusion from the mere effect of the judgment, without being satisfied that that judgment had been founded ,fn justice. He had made these observations from a pure sense of what was due to the case under all its circumstances. He never had the slightest personal knowledge of the Noble Lord, he never was introduced to him, he never spoke to him, never was in his company-;-he spoke without any other influence than that possibly which the severity of the sentence might have excited, but with no disposition to avoid that conclusion to which he might arrive upon a care ful review of the case. Mr. BROADHEAD, as he stood so committed on this occasion, trusted that he might be allowed to say a few words. He could assure the House, that he did not entertain the slightest feeling or disposi., tion to urge the business in which he had engaged in any way that should not completely correspond with. the general sentiment. With respect to the Honour.,, able Gentleman's motion, be would abstain from.: giving any opinion upon it. He certainly had had it in contemplation to submit to the House, an Fri day next, a motion, founded solely on the document which had that evening been laid on the table; and he believed, that in entertaining such an intention he wes justified by the usages of Parliament. If, how ever, the Honourable Gentleman desired , further in formation, for the purpose either of lb. tisfying himielf of the guilt of the individuals in question, or of in ducing the House to think more favourably of those individuals, he had not the slightest wish to throw . any impediment in the way of the success of his motion. Mr. HOLMES offered to read an extract from Lord Cochrane's Letter to him, but the House did not seem disposed to hear ir. The ATTORNEY GENERAL *declared, that be rose on this occasion with very unpleasant sensa tions. If, consistently, with his duty, he could do any , tliipeeits meliorate the situation of the individual in questidn, it would afford him a high gratification ; but he apprehended that it would be impossible for him to accede to the present motion, consistently with his respect for the due administration of the functions of Parliament, which he could not consent should be used for purposes that, howeier they were considered, mast embarrass their pi ozecdings, fort ign as they were to the legitimate objects which Pariiament ought always to keep in view. It was impossible for him to acquiesce rn the motion consistently with his re spect for that sacred,instlustion— the Trial byinrY. For what - was it proposed to the House eb do r Ti; review a conviction by a Jury !—to sit at a Conti 01 .Appeal...-.to sit as a•Couit of Error en the fins on which "a Jury hid pronounced a Verdict it ware proper to do tat, ought not the House, in point of justice, 19 go a step further—lo permit'the prosecutor to appear at the bar and amend his case, and to per. nil the defendant to add new evidence to that which be bad adduced in the Court Lalow ? This, however, at once appeared so 'anomalous, so inconvenient, that the. very Weosion of it seemed to alaini:the Honour able Gentlemen.—Pis_ the'gencral merits of the case itself,. he. would cautiously abstain from .uiterisig at single syllable; for, compelled as he was to resist a proceeding by which it was supposed the situation of the iudividual in question would be ameliorated, he was particoliely _options at 'least not to make any observation' which might be prejudicial to that situ ation. Hp.tieas sure also, that the lit-use would not expect, from such an humble individual as himself, that he would conduct himself so indecorously and improperly, as to attempt to vindicate the judgment of a Court formecteaceurding to the institutions of the country—a Court, the members of whicb, he would vpritore to say, were as distinguished by learn. lag as 'any that ever sat in Westminster Hall, 'and who Were not more distinguished by their learning than by their strict and uniform attention to justice. Ile, therefore, only laid in a claim, if the sentence Of that Court had experienced the universal 'censure whieta the Honourable Gentleman opposite declated, that it had, to have it considered as the result of deep and impartial deliberation on :the part of persons of high and unimpeachable honour, who were in every way calculated to discharge, with advantage to the country, the,important duties cusifided to them.— Whether the circqnsiontes of the rank and station pf the indiv;disal in question, or the services which be bad formerly render ed the country, might be deemed fit matter for representation in a quarter to which a proper appeal vitas never made without success, he would not say ; but this he would say, that the House of 'Commons 'would depart from then - constitutional functions if they entered into a consideration Whether, ;he punishment inflicted by one of the Coitus of Westminster Hall was too: great tar too little in its ampunt.' There was one most grievous error, on *hif.l3 an Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr.' Browne) lad founded a great part of his argument. He had spoken of certain technical rules which had isteveitted the party convicted from obtaining a revi sion of the verdict pronounced against him, and had Stated that that party complained of the injustice of ihe verdict,. .Now, re -ally, lk (the Attorney-General) had 'lever,. to the whole course pf *hi; practice, met with a sile case at a person so convicted who had apaid the c ourt a compliment on his conviction, by abstainiirg from inveighing against similar terms. If the Noble Lord inveighed against his sentence, Iherefore, he was in a numerous class. But the tio: nourable Gentleman had maintained, that the indivi. dual in question had taken every possible means to obtain a re-hearing of his cape, but in vain ; betauie the practice of the Court was et) fenced round by technical rules, that all his efftirts were thereby ren.' dered abortive. The direct contrary of all this was ;host uniquitrocallitrue. It became necessary for him to state what had' actually - been theiourse of troceeding, in order to chew that there hid been no sinpedinierrs obtruded, no technical rules, no fencing tote according la thiglegations of the Honour. able Gentleman.' Thai was it sale of CoOrt which tiovided, that in the case of several perions convict of aconspiracy; if any one of them came into Court and desired a new trial, his request-could not' be granted until the other conspirators should come into Court also. The rule was fokinded on this wise principle—namely, that if several persons were con victed of a conspiracy, and one, probably the least implicated, were on coming into Court to apply for and obtain a new trial, all the rest would be entitled to come in and take the same benefit ;—but in the event of his not obtaining a new trial, those other per sons, though the most deeply involved in the crime, would have the best opportunity afforded them of eluding the punishment. This was the technical rule. It was with great pleasure, however, he stated that no technical rule, however wisely forma, or however long it might have been acted on, was permitted in a British Court of Justice to work injustice towards any one. The Court would find a season for doing jus tice. It would make technical rules bend when they stood in the way of substantial right. What had been the coarse of proceeding in the recent instance ? The brand Jury found, a true bill against De Beren ger and others for a conspiracy. The defendants could not have been compelled to take their trial until the sittings after term (ten or twelve days after the period at which he was addressing the House), but both parties, the prosecutors and the defendants, made an earnest application to the Lord Chief Justice to deranv the ordinary forms by accelerating the trial. 'lO the prosecutors his Lordship said nothing, the wish of the defendants he would not listen to from' their attornies or any ordinary agents ; but requited that their Counsel should appear in Court to make the application. This being done, the Lord Chief Justice in consequence (to the irconvenience of all other suitors in the Court), did appoint an early day for the trial. At the trial the defendants were de fended by persons highly eminent for their talents and legal knowledge. They were tried by a Special Jury of the City of London, reduced by one of themselves (Mr. Cochrane Johnstone.) By that Jury they were found guilty. On a subsequent day, within the pe riod prescribed by law, the individual to wham the present conversation principally related, applied in the Court of King's Bench for a new trial; Com. mencing his application by stating, that he under stOod it could not be .made by Counsel. In this state ment he was corrected by the Court. And he was also told, as other persons convicted of a conspiracy had been told the same morning, that the Court could not hear a motion for a new trial in the case of a con. spiracy, when one alone of those who had been en gaged in the conspiracy made the application. The Askews had that morning made an affidavit, that they could not bring into Court the persons who had been convicted with them, and yet they were told, that unless they did so their application could not be lis tened to. The Noble Lord was told the same. Let the House mark the sequel. The Counsel for the de fendants on a subsequent day moved for an arrest of judgment. Atleast the Learned Serjeant, who was Counsel for Butt, and who did every thing that he undertook with the greatest ability, followed by se veral others of the highest talent, nioved for an arrest utiudgment for his client., if Butt had succeeded in this application—if judgment had been arrested with 'respect to him, it must have been arrested with re spect to every one of those Implicated with him in, !he same offence. The. Court, howover, were clearly of opinion, and delivered that opinion reriatim. that there was nothing in any of the points which had been urged that called for an arrest of judgment. What 4. was the next proceeding ? TNe Noble Lord did pre- Lisely that which the technical rules of the Court had prevented hint from doing on the preceding day. lie read from a paper, which was very ably written, and which evinced a profound knowledge of the law, a mi nute and scrupulous examination of theevidence which i had been adduced at the trial, and lie then offered to the Court Certain affidavitsin support of his application. Did the Court intrench itself behind their technical rules, or say that it was too late to grant a new trial ? —lf persons convicted came up fur judgment at the distance of six yeart from the trial, the Court would grant a new trial if they thought fit. But the Court had, heard from the Noble Lord all that could pos sibly have been addressed in his favour. The paper which he read in Court was drawn up by no mean hand, and had evidently the finish of a master. As to the matter of affidavits, in a case like that in ques tion, it was the constant rule of Court to refuse them. But what were the . affidavits offered by the Noble Lord ? Mr. HORNER rose to order. If neither the re. port of the evidence, nor the affidavits were to be allowed to be laid before the House, it was not fit ting that they should take an account of the contents tif these affidavits, on the credit of any Member, how ever high his character in the House. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, was thankful for the interruption, but if the Honourable and Learned Gentleman had listened to him, he would have found that in the way be would have spoken of the affi davits, he had no intention of injuring the cause of the Noble Lnrd. Mr. HORNER said, - he had not interrupted the Honourable and Learned Gentleman because he was afraid that he meant to prejudge the cause of the Noble Lord, but because he wished that nothing should be stated which might in any way prejudice the cause of either the prisoner or the Crown. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL merely wished to state, that no technical rules had stood in the way of the Noble Lord. 'He did not mean to state the contents of the affidavits, because he did not know them himself, but merely the grounds on which they were not received. One of the affidavits contained the evidence of a servant who was examined at the trial • but it neveLcould be permitted that a witness should be allowed to amend, retract or detract from the evidence given at a trial, a practice which would' , be pregnant with the most dangerous consequences. Another of the affidavits was that of person in at tendance in Court, and capable of heing called, but actually not called at the trial. Here he would ap peal to the common sense f justice in the Hops if, such an affidavit ought t be received ? if such a practice were allowed, t e would be al end to every thing like a trial. The prisoners had d: advice and assistance of the most able Counsel ; if they did not instruct the Counsel to call those persons it was their own fault ; and if the Counsel thought it upon the whole more advantageous not to call the wit nesses, they this was no reason no* to send the pri soners to a riew trial. The prisoners were not, in fact, shut out from an act of justice. The Court bad taken . the propriety of ' a sew Will ipto their consideration, - anJ, then was no ground, for it. W to grant a new trial in that H ouse, because the Jur y tat in was their jn o d brect en o t ithe present motion ? It was had not come to a proper verdict on the facts before them. But the consequences of this would not apply to Members merely, but must open the doors of the House wide to all the inferior subjects of the realm. —They would have to retry also the Asketvs, and others in their situation. He should think that no thing was cakulated to give a deeper wound to the ' insaitutinn, of Juries, than for the House of Commons to take upon them to revise the testimony on which they came to their conclusions. With respect to the notes of Lord Ellenborough, they could not produce the effect on the House which was done on the Jury, by the sight of the witnesses, traversing the Ccurt with their eyes, and fixing on Berenger. The effect of the Motion would be to place the House in the situation of a Jury, without the sanction of an oath. Mr. HORNER, though he agreed with the Hon. and Learned Gentleman in the conclusion which he ,had come to, differed with him so entirely, on the grounds of that conclusion ; that he could not silently vote with hint against the motion. With respect to the punishment, there was nothing which could in duce him to express his opinion of the sentence, as, long as it had any chance of being taken into consi. deration in that quarter where alone it could under. ; o modification. (Near, hear.) As to the. Rules of , Court, he had not' the least doubt, that the Court pro. 'traded strictly and regularly io the present case, ae ' cording to their established rules. If the rule was established, it was necessary to enforce it in that and all other cases. But with regard to the rule itself;' the term, ruppored wisdom, made use of by the Ho.. nourable and Learned Gentleman, in speaking of it, seemed to him no bail description of that rule.: —He could not discover in it the least reason or wisdom, and a thousand cases might occur where it would lead to hardship and oppresssion. • (Cries of Hear, hear.) He opposed the motion, because he had the most unshaken conviction of the regularity of , the proceedings at the trial. The motion related to two species of papers, the Report and the Affidavits. The House might order the affidavits, and other pa. pert, tending to throw light on the question before them, to be laid before them ; but, as to the notes, he. believed there was no precedent to warrant them in calling for that private document which was kept by the Judges for the information of the Jury, and of the Secretary of State, for the sake of ulterior proceedings. It was not in the ordinary course of the proceedings of the House, therefore, to call for the report. Whether' a case might not arise, when it might be proper to ad. dress the Prince Regent, for the notes taken at a trial, was a question altogether different ; but nothing in the present case was stated which rendered such a_ proceeding advise-able. But while he stated this, he differed with the HOPI. and Learned Gentlemen, as to what he had said with respect to the examination of evidence in this case, which, he contended, to be enter ing upon a new trial. The House were not doing any thing in the ordinary course of criminal jurisprudence, but excicising a species cf . jurisdiction peculiar to them staves; and there was no rule to prevent them from cal.' ling forevidence where it might be proper Ica. them to in terfere. A case might be stated, in which the conduct of the Jury and Judges was such as to call for the inter-, ference of the House : but no such case as this wis at present laid before them. In suet) a case, however, the House might properly call for all manner of evi dence which they might deem necessary. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman had contended, that they would be , obliged, on this principle. to try over again evei y person under a similar sentence with that of the Noble Lord ; and among others, he mentioned the Askew's. But the House, it was pioper to recol lect, were here called on to expel one of their Mem bers ; and the information they wished etas merely for the sake of informing their own consciences with respect to the vote which they might come to on that subject : they had nothing*to do with the Courts of Justice, except something was stated which.called Oa them to act in their inquisitorial capacity. The quest' tion reduced itself to this, whether, tor the purpose of voting on the motion for the expulsion, it would be necessary for them to go over the evidence at the trial? In this case, it did not seem necessary to him to call kir more information than they had before them.— He was fully satisfied with the verdict of the Jury and the judgment of the Court. But on the princi ples on which he had formerly voted for the expul sion of Members of that House, he declared that in doing so lie considered that he did nothing more than send back to his constituents the person excluded.— He considered a Member as a trustee for the people who sent him, and it in the course of the trust, any thing should occur, whether in consequence of the verdict of a Jury or otherwise, which might call for a revision of that trust, it would be proper to expel him the House; it was in that light, and no other, that he could give his support to such a measure. The verdict of a Jury ought; in his opinion, to have credit given to it by the House, so fat as to give the con stituents an opportunity for say ing whether they would any longer consider the Member expelled as a fit per. son to be goat so Parliament. On these grounds he shciuld vote against the motion. Mr. W. WYNNE did not think that any reason was given to induce the House to depart from their practice in former instances of a similar natttre. Had any thing been stated against the justice of the Court; or had any unfairness on the part of the Judge, from fomcumtle;mrialbt:titnibeonff whatever cause, whether of a political nature or other, wise, been alleged, he should feel it a case where the House might with proprittr inquire into the pro ceedings of the Court of Law ; but in this case no adequate grounds had been stated to induce the House to go into the inquiry. The motion was then negatived. • (MANGY ASSOCIATION. Sir JOHN NEWPOIt said he held in his hands a Petition signed by a number of Protestants and At the conclusion of a Ca tholics of Ireland, friends to civil and religious liberty. t i oo ns fili. ur vid da tes.ire t g t i h rere a i t aatn pe med, a a c i e nnsco s! peace abroad, it was necessary be by puttiog an end to all n d e n n g d e would .s Associations throughout At the end of 120 Years the • victor ought not to be allowed any longer to triumph over the vanquished. He would 'appeal to thetufeergs the House of if the battle of Cullodin had bee n :annually celebrated in Edinburgh, 'that tr{nquillity Would have been esta blisher:in SeCda n d He felt confident that no im roper motive would be attributed to him on Ate pee. .• sent occasion, as he himself gloried in being descend. ed from one of those Officers of King William's Dutch Guards, who contributed largely to that vic tory, against the celebration of which he was now con tending. Nothing more contributed to the distracted state of Ireland than such commemoration, Which was considered by one party in the light of an insult and degradation ; and it WAS fruitless to 'appose. that if due means were not used to put an end to them. that the peace and tranquillity of Ireland would ever be restored. As the Government had resolved to put down every improper assembly which had a tendency to disturb the public peace, he called upon them hit' the enforcement of the existing laws, particularly that of 1810, to put down all secret associations, and to prohibit all processions decorated with insignia OL particular days, nhich were galling to one party iti the country.—The Petition was read, and ordered to he on the , table. Mr. BANKES, as Chairman of the Committee, to whoin the Petitions against any alteration in the Corn Laws Were referred, stated that the Committer had received from Dublin Returns of Grain in March and May, which differed . both as to quantity and value. He moved that an account, explanatory of this difference, should be , laid before the Committee —Ordered. IRISH SPIRITS INT'ERCOLRSR RILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the Bill should be tommittectftro from.. ' and that the chictissiim should take Aace On.ille 1104. consideration of the Repent t • Mr:- FINLAY - proposed that Counsel be called in on the part of the Distillersof Glasgow, &c. The CHANCELLOR - -of the EXCHEQUER suggested that it whuld be much more convenient us postpone the hearing of Counsel until a future day. Mr. WESTERN opposed the principle and va. - rious enactments of the e t a' on behalf of the Distillers of England. Mr. FITZGERALD proposed that the discussion - should be pOstponed until the subject, were sore ripe ' for debate. • Mr. W. SMITH argued against the Ell, and pro fessed his determination to oppose it in all its stages. Lord. CASTLEREAGH supposted it, arguing that the measure was founded upon reciprocity and, justice, and that it only put the Irish distiller upon a H level with the English distiller. The Noble 'Lord concluded with expressing a hope, that that great na tional settlement, the Union 4 would never be dis turbed, and stated, that to his knowledge it was the intention of the authors of that measure that the trade of spirits between this part of the Empire and Ireland should be perfectly free. • Mr. BRAND conceived that the operation of the Bill before the House would be to give to the 4risa distillers the monopoly of the English market, to the obvious prejudice of the English distillers, who, as a farther aggravation, were not to be macie.any allow ance for the taxes which they had paid upon the qu m ti:y spirits they had already distilled, upon the ! faith that the Non-intercouve Law would be farther t on , intted.- The amount of tairaso paid, we under stood she Hon. Member to state at ie400,000, upon 700,000 gulEnsi Mr. B. SHAW maintained that the object and ten dency of the Bill was to establish a complete recipro city bettvteri England and Ireland, as the Union pro pdseti. It was in fact its intention , to correct an et. ror by which the drawback upon spirits exported from ° all parts of Great Britain being the same, the Scotch distillers obtained through such drawback no less than 2s, id. per gallon above the tax they actually paid. and thus bad an undue advantage. That the Scotch I distiller should be anious to tempt that advantage to • the prejudice of the revenue and of the distiller of` Ire land might be natural,but he trusted that the justice of Parliament wonld remove .the errorond thus comply with thereasonable desires of the Irish.distiller, who, he could assure thi; House, soughtfor but the establishment of a fair reciprocity. Sir J. NEWPORT ob served , that. by the undue . advantage derived from the drawback stated by the - last Speaker, the Scotch Distiller was enabled not • only to reduce the revenue, !At to , import-his spirits into the Irish market, at a. bounty injurious eo the due interest of the Irish Distiller. Mr.. J. P. GRANT spoke against the NU, an 4 HAWTHORN in its favour. • Mr. G RATTAN contended, thadilt Commercial Articles of the Tasty with Ireland were to be re, garded as the marriage-portion, the obligation to pay which could not be infringed without annulling the marriage contract. • Mr.. MARRYATT and Mr. MELLISH both objected to the principle of the . Bilk to being at va• riance with the opinion of the 0111111:ittoe who so unit. ously considered the matter in the year 1809. Mr. FINLAY protested ageism' it on similar grounds. No alteration could make the principle of the present measure palatable to him, or consistent with a fair reciprocity of advantages between the two countries. He should therefore prefer taking the sense'of the House upon it now; and with this view moved, as as amendment," that the Speaker do leave the Chair dal -day arts siontlis."—(Loil aid aseind 4iNeaN) !he SPEAKER suggested to the Hon. Member. Ithat his end would be equally attained by moving— " That - the House do resolve into each Committee this day three months." The CHANCRLLOI of the EXCHRQUIR, Lord CAS4 TLNRIAOH ' and Mr,. W. FITZGERALD, supported th e Bill; .anciMr.Wasirao, Mr.W. Sutra, Mr. BRAND, and Mr. Joint Prraa GRANT, opposed it. After which the House divided—. For the Speaker's that leaving Aping it 47—Majority 16. the Bill then went through a Committee, was re v. rted, was ordered to be printed as amended, the port to be taken into farther ebosideration cn nesday, and Counsel to be heard for the Petitioners a p gass . st the Bill, on the bringing up of the farther if they should think fit. . 4 • Anse WM/4TM Mr. BENNET ' biped that at so late an hour it was Not 'the intention of the Noble Lord (Palmerston) to persevere in bringing forward the Army Estimates. Laid PALMERSTON saw no occasion for any farther delay; the more particulariyas t h ere cou ld b e little inforiaktiOn afforded to the Heave on the sub. ject of any re du ction in the eapence 'during the pre. seat year, three quarters of the year's expenditure being already incurred, and oer armies not b e i ng ytt got borne ! There would, besides, be is farther stage the Chair 63 the sail 'BY cal _ that b service cuul . A NCELLC 414.1 ilICd dria‘ whil rn, ;men t be ezp ,ANTI the Nn head wa papa:lament. hating rei ember of After whi , PALMERSTC Estimates. He ah , tuld with the leading feature future octdsion. trout it would be seen. that, c those , of the last year, t men, and Ail 10,000 of et arose from a variety ca an increase of pay or allo Officers, to the amoum charge c Cavalry Staff, occasioning an expense lied York Chasseurs, to Under the bead of Staff increase this year in the of /156,000. This, no doi Lord Lynedoch's army, vered under the saving There was an inctease it which he was certain till encourage, namely, in tl not having Regiments, receipt of every possible Lieutenant-Colonel to 11 not consistent with justil trsry practice not only+ tary Service, eireept ours vice of this Country, su for more that, a century. General Officers on the errs in the Navy. Thus same pay with a Rear-A ral the same p iy with a :al to have no higher pa This would am' u9t to al crease of pay , would be to who niusr suffer from sh, a prospect of pmsperify rest of the country. £150,000 to .160,000. th.-re would be 1 reclui —ln t.•e Irish Commit £7o,' 00 ; and in the Be a reduction of about to state the reductions * or were immediately to home, and in the recru confined to the London having now sustained a I umlaute be. hicreased ai General Officers. Every himseif to the House, possible moment it mull The first Resolution;^ fw the Land Forces, et of £1,546.000, being p Mr. PONSONBir which this business had to the duty of the iioust best possible provision fi Army, and also for those retire on half pay, he Noble Lord: that doty bounded by our ability. ever,to have heard a due as to what was likely to The Noble Lord had h to conjecture when be to the peace establishment be as nearly as possible the French Revolution; was made from that sc the Noble Lad, and tl shew that iamb deviatio French Revolution, th expenses ache year, at debt, was sirsiesenilliei of our debt gale was pi he did not over-rate the by sta inglt at sixty osi wasi it she mperious iu expense as much as pc the amount of our eip Revolts ion, as the best wha our present expel sity of an ini.reased Atm wale Us reties 41 Mr. Bennet, General Lord Newark,General Mr. Wynne, Mr. Cake ticipated, the resolution having resumed, the ceived on Monday. DOM C _ . Mr. W. WYNNE, t)uke of Wellingtiat, whether they had it in measure to the House, honour to that great a wished also to know, i clubion of a war, it wa the thanks of the Hot the eonsequence of pe forces, the thanks a possible. The CHANCELI - said, that nothing of t Mr. WYNNI salt Marlborough it was t the House to him for of the wart and to al him. for the purpose safe arrival in this c that an early day she b which be had alluded • for &sending Os w 1174770 NOON I foe prbi eding at the roihroy scrim the t.tosi.:e.s 6,1 0 - The CH A NCI Saw gnat increa.t every day's deoak. could at Um m"i to what ntileht b bl sl total. Mr. t REEMi night what was t amount of the pe• maroon on this he that the postpone necessary The Howie has of Supply, a nun 'were voted Aft Lord PALME !~ I