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, he wastothing, but that he looked their Lord Ba• got's house. ADoLettus.—He was asked his profession, and he says he is no profession. • Witness. —I am likewise a door-keeper at the Co burg Theatre. Examination continned.—l have no other employ ment. lam quite sure the soldiers were assisting to open the gates. Whether the police officers or the undertakers men did actually open them, the sol diers were assisting. I had not an opportunity of seeing the hearse till it got to what I suppose to be about within thirty or forty yards of the gates; when it came up to the gate, it came very slowly. I have said, that after the hearse passed the stones were less 'violent, and after this the firing commenced. I can give no reason why it took place. I heard no per son read the Riot Act, or tell the soldiers or people to desist. By the Foreman.—l did not see et.: hear a shot Fired before the hearse came through the gate. I was in the middle window of Lord Bagot's dining room, and if there had been any firing then I think I must have seen and heard it. I cannot guess how many whole bricks I saw thrown at the soldiers. I saw two or three whole bricks, or what appeared to me to be whole, thrown, and one of them strike one of the soldiers. I saw no particular person throw them. They came from the Park wall. The soldier that was struck was distant from the wall about four yards. The soldier appeared to me to be very much hurt; he was near tumbling from his horse. I saw 311 °dicer that day at the gate. I don't know his name. He was a young m.m. He appeared to me ' , a young man. I did not take notice of any °leer' at the time. I saw no pistols in the Officer's hands. I saw a carbine. I saw nothing with the soldiers but their swords. I saw a trumpeter there. Ido not know him. I don't think I should know him again if I were to see him. He appeared to me to be from about twenty to thirty, perhaps; but I took no parti cular notice. What I mean by flourishing is, that they flourished them about to intimidate the people. 1 did nut think they flourished them in manner. 1 saw a soldier •and his horse down. How arc came so, did not catch (see), till alter he was down, • _ . By 21r. G.111—(To the a itness).—There arc such phrases among musicians as these: a man says, Do you know the violin? DI you know the trumpet?— or aay other instrument, by which it is understood u be asked whether a person plays on those iastru ti eats. Is it not so ?—Witness.—Yes, Sir. Mr. G.4l.—Now, I a•.k you, do you know the tictupet?—Witness.—No, Sir, Ido not. • Mr. Gall.—Then the Jury are to understand.that though you hold the situation of trumpeter in the King's Household, you yourself do not know the trumpet Is not that the fact ? Yes, Sir.--(Some laughterfollowed this). !lr. Gall Wished that the question and answer should be taken down. The COKONZR objected to putting it down. He could not see what it had to do with the question before the Jury. Mr. Gall considered that it was the very cream of all they had heard. Mr.Spicer.—You say you don't know the trumpet ; do you pay any person to play it for you ?—I do, Si} Mr. ADOLPHUS asked whether the situatirgi which witness held was one for life, or at the pleasure of the Crown? to which he replied, that he did not exactly know. The question was not entered on the minutes. _ . By another Jurer.—l do not know that I saw any stones thrown at the corner of Cumberland-street ; but I saw some paving stones which had been left loose at the corner of that street. They were to be round the iron post, but were not rammed close.— They (the people) got them up, and knocked them one against another; but whether they broke them or not I cannot say. Tbis was at the corner of Cum berland.street nearest Tyburn-gate. I cannot say that I saw any stones thrown from the corner; but I certainly saw stones thrown at the soldiers from all directions. By the Foreman.— I do not know that I saw any horses wounded on that day. I saw several struck. I did not see one with its throat cut. The young Of 'leer with the detachment left Cumberland-gate soon after the hearse passed through. That was, I think, little after one o clock. I did not see the trumpeter have any conversation with the young Officer. I heard the cry of " Murder" when the man-who was shot was borne by. I was examined at the Inquest of Francis. I had no communication with Lord Bagot .by letter or otherwise, as to what I had seen. I had to communication wi th any man on this subject, ex cept what I had with Mr. Hanson. Mr. Waithman called opposite the window, and inquired whether .any person in the house knew anything of what oc curred on the 14th ; and they answered no, that they were too frightened to observe anything. If I had seen Mr. Waithman, I would have given him exactly .the information which. I gave to Mr. Hanson. The evidence of the witness was now read over to him, and having signed it, he withdrew. Mkhael Lambert Este, was next sworn, and exa mined by Mr. ADOLPHUS... 4 am Surgeon to the First Regiment of Life Guards. I was in waiting in the Barracks all day, and received them (the soldiers) as they came in. Thirty-seven came under my care for hurts and wounds on that day. The greater number were contusions on the head, neck, body, and limbs. They appeared to be such as must have been inflicted &Tames and brickbats. All these men were so struck • km bruised as to require care at my hands. I did not see more than thirty-seven. There were five who had broken bones ; me a broken cheek-bone, one a shoulder blade broken (that was Sowerby), one a col l'-bone broken, one an ancle-bone broken, one a stun-bone and the arm-bone injured. These men were healthy in the morning. It is my duty not to view the healthy men, but the sick. The injuries, *ere recent. I must mention that there were thirty-; six men brought in on dr%) 4th, in consequence of the fray in Oxford-street. lane man was brought in during the evening, having been assailed in West minster, and his collar-bone broken, in consequence of his being a Life Guardsman. -Jr. ADOLPHUL—This latter 'ease of the collar hene must be left out of the list. It has nothing to do with this inquiry. !qr. Blakie._Then there are 36 cases, it appears, applicable to thi: inquiry. ily the Foteman.--Nune of the •men so wounded IL aLle to :tuella duty the nest day. The wil*-1 thirty-six were on the sick list. Mose who received fractures are still in the Hospital. By Mr. Gall.—lt is not customary for Men under the Doctor's hands to attend parade. By a Juror.—Sowerby was placed in the Hospital the day after the riot. He did not know that his shoulder was fractured until I examined it, and on discovering the inry, I ordered him into the Hospital. By a Juror .— The men were sent in to me, I un derstood, from Cumberland-gate, but I cannot speak to the fact. I was in attendance to receive them. I know they went out on this service, and I also know that the ty returned with those hurts. By the Foreman.—There are two lists, the Adju tant's list, and Surgeon's list. I report those who are ill, and they are placed in the Hospital. Those who were trivially injured did not abstain from duty. But of the 36 men of whom I have spoken, not one was erased from the sick list for six or eight days. Most of them left the Hospital before I wished it. By Mr. Gall.—The persons with the fractured shoulder, the broken ancle, and the broken collar bone, arc still in the Hospital. Those who had frac tures, I can positively state, were not present at the inspection. By the Foreman —I cannot say whether the man who fell from his horse at Cumberland-gate was one of.those who receive.' fractures. The Foreman demanded a more explicit answer. Mr. AD°Limos objected to this mode of putting questions. He was willing, as he had called the wit ness, to ask what account each of the wounded per sons gave to the Surgeon ; hut he could not admit an irregular mode of examination. Mr. Blakie.—The witness has stated that five indi viduals received fractures. Ile has since reduced the number to four, as far as this Inquest is concerned, one of the persons having been wounded in an affray at Westminster. Now we wish to know whether the man who was thrown from his horse was one of those who received fractures? The Witness.—l cannot say whether the individual who was thrown from his horse was one of the per- 1 sons whose limbs were fractured. He was, however, comprised in the list of 36. To the best of my know ledge, none of the individuals who received fractures were present at the inspection. I think it would have been dangerous for them to have been there. (Here an individual complained that Pyall, the summoning officer, had behaved rudely to him, and had for a considerable time refused him admittance into the room. On inquiry, however, it appeared that he was himself in fault ; and the Coroner directed, if he could nut behave quietly, that he should be turned out, as curiosity alone induced him to thrust himself into an already oppressively crowded room.) Sa»smel Bloxham sworn and examined by Mr. ADOLPIWS.—I am veterinary surgeon in the Ist Life Guards. On the evening of the 14th I inspected the horses that returned from duty. There were a great' many hurt, but not disabled from duty. Of those I did not take cognizance; but two privates' horses, and the horse of an Officer, are still unfit for duty. One horse had the artery under the jaw divided ; that horse is now fit for duty. By the Foreman.—The memorandum which I now exhibit I made five minutes ago. I did not know, till then, that I should be called on to attend. I have a regular list of casualties, but this which I have ex hibited is' perfectly faithful. 1 can swear to it. By Mr. Gall.—One of the horses was injured by a fall. Corporal Forge's horse, the artery of whose jaw was divided, is fit for duty. Lieutenant Hall's horse is still unfit for duty : the injury under which he la bours was inflicted by a stone, which struck him on the head. The horse of Corporal Forge was cut by some sharp instrument. The wound is about three parts of an inch long.. It is not deep. By the COROXER.—I suppose the horse would have bled to death, if he had not been succoured? - - Witness.—He would have bled till he dropped;! but he would not have bled to death, as the artery,, after a certain time, would collapse. By the Foreman.—l do not know the name of the trumpeter who was at Cumberland-gaze. Edward Pelham Brenton, Esg.Captain in the Royal Navy, examined by Mr. ADOLPIIUS.—I live at No. 4, Park-lane. On the day the Queen was buried I saw what took place at Grosvenor-gate. I was in an upper room window ; in the window of my bed-room. It was about half-past eleven, perhaps a little earlier,. when a corporal's guard of the Life Guards came into the Park, and stood opposite Grosvenor-gate, with the horses' heads towards Kensington. They remained quietly in that situation until about a quar ter past twelve, when I first perceived the Queen's funeral coming up the Park. It was opposite Lord Breadalbane's house when I first saw it. A great crowd followed up Park-lane. I think about fifteen or twenty of them set up a horrid yell. It was by no means universal amongst the crowd. Those persons called out, " You have murdered our Queen, you b—y Piccadilly butchers 1" At the same time a volley of stones was thrown at the Life Guards who rode at that side of the funeral, as well as at the cor poral's guard opposite the gate, which fairly drove them from their position. Mr. ADOLP/1113.—Absolutely, not fairly. The CORONER.—I understand the meaning per fectly well. The Foreman.—Let the word be taken down. The Witness.—The soldiers quietly marched over to the other side of the road, where they faced about, opposite to Lord Dudley's house, and remained in that position after standing vollies of stones, which continued to be thrown at them, until the hearse passed between them and the mob, when they joined the Procession and went on towards Cumberland gate. The mob still followed them, pelting them with stones, until I.lost sight of the Procession. At half-past twelve I heard the firing, which continued, I think, for a minute and a half, perhaps for two minutes ; and I observed at the time, the Life Guards can stand it no longer. Mr. ADOLPIIUS.—We cannot receive that. The Witness.—l only meant to state the fact, as I have already set it forth in my deposition. By Mr. ADOLPIIUS.—I never saw men behave so coolly, so orderly, or so humanely as the soldiers did I when attacked by the mob. By a Juror.—l• think, as this Gentleman can say' nothing relative to whit occurred at Cumberland.. gate, that Mr. Adolphus might have spared higi the I trouble of coming here. . Mr. ADoLPItUs.—I think quite differently. The i - witlic.nroYel .1:1 a:tack urn the military at Graave-', nor-gate, previously to their arrival at Ctunberland gate, and his evidence is therefore most important. By a Juror.--I said the corporal's guard remained opposite my house from half-past eleven until they were dislodged by the vollies of stones when the hearse came up. I will positively state that they never changed their position prior to the co•ui:ag up of the hearse. I have given my reason for it. 'flie attack upon the corporal's guard only commenced with the mo'a that accompanied the funeral up the lane; con sequently it did not last more than a minute or so.— 'pie hearse was travelling, when it passed my ponce, at the rate of—occasionally, in short, it was at a quick walk—and occasionally it was standing still. By Mr. Blakie—l should not like to swear that I never saw it on a trot. lam not quite sure that about a quarter of an hour previous to the Procession coming up the horses may have been ranged (the sol diers' horses) near the Park railing which encloses the wall, w ith their heads towards Lord Dudley's house, near Grosvenor-gate. It may be so; it is very pro bable it was so. I did observe that shortly afterwards they took up that position I have before described. By Mr. HAYWARD.—My house is nearly opposite Grosvenor•gate. From my house it was possible to ascertain what was passing about Cumberland-gate. I don't acknowledge that it was not. By Mr. ADOLPHOS.—The Riding-house is nearerto Piccadilly than to my house. I should think I first perceived the Procession when between the Riding house and Lord Breadalbane's. At what pace the Procession came from Piccadilly to the Riding-house I do not know. By Mr. Bl.tkie.—l will undertake to swear that from my house I did not see the hearse gallop; if it had done so, it would have been so unusual I must. have observed it. I think I can only say there was a quarter of an hour elapsed from the time I first saw it till it reached Cumberland-gate, till the firing be gan. I cannot say that it did not gallop.• I had my watch in my hand for the principal part of the time. The witness added, that the stones were thrown prin cipally by about fifteen or twenty people; not by the whole mob, or the generality of them. Lieutenant-Colonel C'avendish was next sworn and re-examined by Mr. Anot.Puus.—l was present at the inspection of the Life Guards on the 21st of Au gust by some of the witnesses in this case. I at tended as the Commanding Officer. I saw a person who gave his name to Mr. Bit nie, or one of the Ma gistrates, as Spratt, on that occasion. He went down in front of all the line once; and upon coming to the end of them, requested that he might go back again, in order to see an Officer whom he believed to be the man that had shot Honey. As other witnesses had been allowed to do the same, he was also allowed to go down the first line again. He stopped at the se cond Officer on his left hand, whose name is Wal rond. He is a Sub-Lieutenant. After looking at him for a moment, he passed on to another (I rather believe the next), as he stopped, passed him, looked at him, and returned again. That Officer's name is Lock. lie passed by him again with his eyes fixed upon him. He then made some motion with his head, as if he could not quite make up his mind which was the Officer, or as if he were disappointed in the purpose of his inspection. It appeared to me so at least. He touched the horse with his right hand. Lieutenant Waldmn was in the same line, but much lower down. Spratt did not stop at him or make any particular indication with respect to him, to the best of my recollEction. To the hest of my recollec tion (which I rather say, though I am disposed to say certainly not), he did not do so. To the best of my remembrance, I accompanied Spratt down the whole line, and he took not the slightest notice of Gore. I am well acquainted with the persons of Lieu tenant Waldron and Lieutenant Lock. Mr. ADOLPHUS.—Do not be offended with the question, Colonel Cavendish, but I have a duty to perform, and clients for whom I appear—say - whether Lieutenant Gore, Lieutenant Walrond, or Lieutenant Lock, or any other Officer, wore paint on that day? Witness.—To the best of my recollection, neither Lieutenant Lock, nor Lieutenant Gore, nor Lieutenant Walrond, had paint on his cheeks. They have all fresh complexions; but as to paint, I should be ashamed of my regiment if I thought there was an Officer in it who would condescend to use it. On the Sunday after the funeral, on the 19th, Lieutenant Gore wns on the church parade, at the Hyde Park barracks. I marched them off with the remainder of the regiment to the Riding School, where church service is performed. That was about a few minutes after eleven o'clock. Divine service might be over in about half an hour. To the best of my recollec tion, I did not see Lieutenant Gore any more on that day. The King's Guard was relieved that morning, at the Horse Guards, by the Blues. That relief took place very soon after eleven. After church I ordered my horse, for the purpose of riding down towards the Horse Guards. put my great coat on, and, riding, I met the King's Guard at the back of Carl ' ton Housegarden. The Officers of that guard whom I met were by name Captain Macneil, Lieutenant Cox, and Sub-Lieutenant Hall. That is the proper number of Officers, a Captain and two Subalteins, belonging to the guard. By Mr. Gall.—Neither Lieut. Walrond nor Lieut. Lock is, in personal appearance, the least like, I should say, Lieutenant Gore; they are fair and of fresh com plexion ; you have all seen Lieutenant Gore; and I should think that he' is much more sallow than either of them. They are fresh coloured. The witness Spratt is rather a little man, sallow complexioned, and of dark hair. I should say he was rather like a man who has had the jaundice. He is very dark, and has dark eyes. I think he had a blue stuff umbrella in his right hand. By Mr. Brown.—Officers when they are unwell sometimes change their places. On th.:t morning there was no such change. I had not sent Lieutenant Gore to relieve any one. He could not have had time to get down to Carlton [-louse by the time I saw Cap-1 tain Macneil and the King's Guard. I am confident 1 that Lieutenant Gore was not at any time between Saturday and Monday on service. If an Officer was ill, and I sent down Lieutenant Gore, the latter's name might or might nit appear in the orderly .bnok. By Mr. Blakie.,-I apprehend Lieutenant Hall is by no means like Lieutenant Gore ; he is much shorter than Lieutenant Gore. By a Juror.—Spratt did not fix on eit!ler of these Officers on the day of inspection. Lieutenant Gore was attached to Captain Oakes's party. Jv,:t vAlt.:LiAtt tenat:t Gore had or had not his pistols. I heard he had not. I don't know whether Lient. flail had his pistols. The Foreman understood that the Jury was to he furnished with the orderly book. Mr. ADOLPIIUS said it was Cot tficoming whenever the Jury pleased. Mr. 131akie (to witness).--Mr. AJolphus said you knew for whom he appeared and was retained heir.. Mr. Anor.Purts.-1 never said any such thing. (To Colonel Cavendish).—l merely said, " You will ex cuse me, Colonel Cavendish ; I must suggest this question, for I have a duty to per form and parties for whom I appear." Lieutenant-Colonel Cavendish corroborated Mr. Adolphus's words in every particular. Mr. Brown thought that as the question was put for the purpose of elucidating the truth, neither Co lonel Cavendish nor any of the Ilegitnent could rea sonably be offended at it. Mr. Ausx.rtrus thought that it was a question which boys at school would blush to have asked of them. Mr. Gall perfectly concurred in opinion with Mr. Adolphus that such a question addressed to a British Officer did demand some qualification. The wit ness's evidence was then read over to him, and he withdrew. The next witness was Mr. Emans, the Adjutant of the Regiment (who was examined on a former day). Examined by Mr. ADOLPIIUS.—I was present in the Barracks when some witnesses attended to inspect the Life Gnards. I remember a man named Spratt who attended on that occasion. I accompanied him during his inspection, and sass the Officers a he stopped at Sub-Lieutenant Lock. He looked at another Officer, but did not point him 'nit. The name of that Officer was Lieutenant Walrond. He did not look at him earnestly, but he looked different ways at Lieutenant Lock ; first in front, and then sideways. Lieutenant Gore was a considerable way from that part, beyond the gateway, at the eastern side of the yard. Spratt passed him, but did not stop, or make any observa tion. I have a memorandum of it, which I took on the spot. I know Lieutenant Walrond and Lieute nant Lock very well. The faces of both these Gentle men exhibited nothing unusual on that occasion. I give you my word of honour that neither was painted. There was no appearance of anything of the kind.— They ate both of a much higher colour than Lieute• Mint Gore: painting, would, I think, make them more unlike him; it would also give them a boyishlook.— (14ere the witness produced the orderly book of the Regiment, in which he said that eat ies were made by the clerk of the Regiment in his presence, as t.. 1 the days when Officers were on guard.)—The witness was desired to look at the entries for Friday, the 17th, and asked what O ffi cers were on the king's Guard on that day? He answered, in the orders of the 16th, which were for the next day, it appeared that Captain Martin,Lieutenant Bayard, and Sub-Lieutenant Gore, were the Officers on duty on the 17th. I myself at tended on Saturday morning, and saw them on duty. I was ordered there. On Saturday, the 18th, they were relieved by Captain Macneil, Lieutenant Cox, and Sub-Lieutenant Hall : of course those last Gen tlemen would be on dutytill the Sunday following. They arrived at the Barracks from that duty, at about a quarter before twelve on Sunday. (Here the wit ness handed the book with the entries respecting the guards). The Blues relieve the guards in two days. I don't know whether Lieutenant Gore was on duty ' since the 17th. On Sunday I saw Lieutenant Gore 'go to Church with the Regiment. On the Saturday I was sent to the Barracks, and saw Lieutenant Gore waiting to be relieved and the Blues not having come to relieve them, having two squadrons out, anothef guard was sent for. f lode to the Barracks myself. I was talking to Lieutenant Gore on the parade. An Officer cannot change guard with another, without leave of the Commanding Officer. (The witness here referred to the book, and pointed out some changes which had taken place on other occasions, by leave of the Commanding Officer of the day). An Officer cannot exchange duty or leave the guard to which he is appointed without leave of the Silver-stick in wait ing, who is the ceileral Field Officer of the King's Guard, and by him this is communicated to the Cap.. taro of the Guard. By Mr. Blatie.—l have never before been examined by Mr. Adolphus, except on a Court-Martial. lie never examined me on the subject of this Inquest. The evidence was read over to the Adjutant, and he signed it and withdrew.—The next witness was Lieutenant William Lock, examined by Mr. ADOL. PUUS.—I am a Sub-Lieutenant of the first Regiment of Life Guards. Mr. Gall, on looking at the witnes , .—l think it is not impossible that Spratt should have mistaken this Gentleman for Lieutenant Gore. By Mr. ADOLPIIM—i certainly took no pains to cause persons to mistake my person for Lieut. Gore's, or Lient. Gore's for mine. I had used no art what ever to disguise myself. I had not painted. I scarcely think it a fair que.tion to ask a Gentleman. Mr. ADOLPHUS said he did not wish to ask it from himself, but it had been sworn•trs. Witness.—l certainly was not painted. I had no more cleat that day than I have now—indeed, less than now, for I have been very ill si ice last &ed.:) , week, from a blow of a brick bat, which has kept We on my couch in greet pain for great part of the time. I mentioned this only as l hare less colour ow n than I had then. I have no knowledge cf Lieutenant , *ore going on guard by mistake.—The evidence cf the witness was read over to him, and, having signed it, be withdrew. Lieutenant Bethel Wulrond,e;:aminc,l by Mr. A DOL- I'll U9.—l am Sub-Lieutenant in the Lite Guards. I was drawn nut on that day for is speedo-1. I ceminly did not, by painting, or otherwise, endeavour to i.ker nvy appearance. Isy Jr. Illakie.—l have no knewletlge of Lieutenant Ooze going on duty by mistake since the 14th. The witness signed his drpositiou and withdrew. Mr. Antal-nes new said lthat be had closed his case, and would call no otherovitness. _ Sr. Ilioiscx On. stated. that Lieut. Hall was in attendance. rslr. B!“kie said he wifled to see him. Lieutenant 11:11 was called in. (He is a much smaller and slighter looking man than Lieutenant Core.) Mr. Blakie asked whether there was any objection to Mx. Ball's bring examined? Mr. Annrears said. be sir( uld not object nor approve the eta minntiun he would leave it to the Jury. The COUUNICS said he would leave it to the Jury. Lieutt cant I w:IF not examined. The Penman.-31r. C'ro'.er, to what day shall we adjourn? )Ir. ootruus said, the Clet'..ettwell Sessions would begin on Aiondav, and the Old lliitley on Wednesday. The Ccruner would have a great deal of 1 - .u•inesa on Monday. The CORONER then named Tuesdai. The I'gr,•m-•• —Well, it on Tutioday, let it be at nine o'clock, atd let us go thronh with it no that day. Spit. Jurors asked whether it would be necessary to go through the w!tule of the evidence? Aft‘r s.,ra, few observatior,s, it was decided that the Alty 11: —le, :.; L:1 J';lock'cia Tatsd!iy.---A,!:;ouro.d.