Star. — London, England, 1803-11-23 00:00:00

Itt a d , r ral cote St. Leek, Tobago, St. Pierre and Miquelon, and et tho Settle. ,menu of Demerara and Eirequlbo ; and they are fully feufible of the promptitude and zeal difplayed by the Olken employed In the conduet of the operations by which ilia& valuable sequilitlons ' lave been made, and by tic forces aging under their command by ' fen and lane. That they have groat fatisfadiun in rededtlng that the Larders, and teveral of the inferior Agents in the late traiterous and acme :au Confpiracy in Ireland, have been brought to jultice, and that the public tranquillity has experienced no further interruption ; and they earneftly participate In the hope which his Majefty has to gracioufly repaired, that filch of his deluded tubjeds as have (swerv ed front their allegiance are now convinced of their error ; and t o:comparing the advantages they ettjov under the protietion of a fres tsnftitution with the condition of the canaries under the dominion of thc !hutch Government, f they will . cordiel/ and :ennui!) , con eve in veiling any attempt, diat ilf y,be made againft the fecu• T. y and Independence oath!! United itingaCini. • They Ware his Majedy that he bay rely on the readiaefs of his Ifithhhd:ComOlocts, to mike fuck pcoviflon as may be accalry for , the (Croke of e.year, and that they arc fully (enable of the im portance of palavering in the fylkm which has been adopted, of defraying the expo:aces of the war with as little addition an Fable to th•• public debt, 'and to the permanent burthens of the flute. They feel a perfeet coofidence that their fellow fubjelts will meet with fortitude, the potifuse rakish the prcfant fituatko of the country renders unavoidable, under a Convidioa of the indifpen fat* importance of upholding the dignity, maid providing cam tually for the fafety of the Empire. Th, y return their thanks to his Majnity, for his gracious Inten tins of laying before them the Convention Malt his hiajefty has concluded with the King of Sweden, for the purpok of adjulling the diacrenees which have olden to the fubjedt of the tab Article of the Treaty of 1461; and they trust that it will be found at once to uphold our maritime rights, and to produce the effed of main taining and improving the good anderflandiog which happily (sh afts between the two countries. That they aremoll deeply convinted that it will be, as it ever Us been, his Majefty's llrf idled to execute, as becomes hi, Royal dignity, the great treat with which he is invefted ; and they receive with the littonsilt feeling; of veneration and dutiful attach ment the ezpreffinn of thof. paternal fentiments which induce his " Mildly to confider itinecif as embarked in one common cede with Mire*, and whkh have determined his Majefty, if the mem ant Aauld mak. to *arc their mallets& and thetr dangers hi the defence of our Conftitution, our Reliably dm Laws, and !advert ence. They beg leave ho . mbly to affirm his Mql,.(ty, that theft, raid: alarms wet aet be loft on an aff.elionate and gritteful people, but tett animate ankimigorate the adtivity and' valour of his and arbligi. and !bimetal and determination aids faithful falikets, as which his ,14ajoity, under the protedlioo of Divine Plow. Branca. trot, Cutely confide the bouour Olds Volvo and all that's important intcrells which as" involved in at Wu of this motnea• toes contcft. Partaking of t►efs his 'Maid, y's rentbneots, slid joining with Isis in humbly itnplotint the Mafiosi of OMNI %tom toes they look forward with a Ann enovidlon this If, adwrary to all I liafketryoftatlon, the away Ittoald chide the eigilattes of !ABM*: lefty's Beets and cruisers, and attempt to executo their prefuntpto- ass threats of Invading die Coatis 0 the United Kingdom, the isenfequences will be to them dikeenfiture, confufion and difgrace, and that the exertions of this kingdom w 111 he rewarded not only by the glory of fersionnting prefenk &faculties and repelling bn anadiate dancer. but by the foal and Permanent akrwstage of fix fug its Welty and Independence on the babe ,of neknowkdged Lamas, the sifalt of Its own tried energy and refearees. The Addrefs being then read from the Chair. Mr. BVILLAND then role, and feeonded the motion, oihich had been nude by the Honourable Memher wrho had juft fiuken. He obferved that the ?relent time was a molt inomentetuf period of our hillory and he could entertain no douSt, whether we confi- dered the general fituation of Europe, or limited our confideration to the particular &nation of our own country, fill bearing its head above that fate of defpotilrn and Livery which prevailed upon the Con tinent—in whatever point of view individuals might choofe to confider the prefent crifis, it was in his opinion Curb as bore no refemblance to any period in ancient balmy, and had never been equalled by any cries of more modern times. a Perhaps," Paid he, •• at this very moment, when I am now addreffing this Houfe. our mod inveterate and implacable ene my may be proceeding to pnt his threatened invafinn into execution. lam fure that under fuch circurn liances I need not fay a word in order to call forth that unanimity in our debates, which is fa effentially mice:try for the prefervation of the country"— .Qinnes bomlses, omen populi, mica featen:iarn habent." Be felt confident that the Addrefs which had been propofed would, therefore, meet with the unanimous approbation of the Houle ; the more efpecially, as in their former deliberations the greatelt unanimity prevailed relative to the &nation of the country, and the necefGty for vigorous exertions in its defence, however much fame Gentlemen might at the fame time have dif.4greed on force particular topics. In Mort, he might venture to fay, that the Houk had, at the clofe of laft Sefton, only one voice in regard to the war. He befought them now not to paralize thnfe firenuous and commendable exertions in our defence. which the general enthullatin of the country had In happily accomplilbed. Were he in alined to enumerate any inflances of the fatal and al ewife irretrievable effeas of difunion, he might eafily thew that the effects had been to deluge there c.,un tries with blood, in which fuch difunion had pre vailed. The affpolitioa which his Majefly had thewn to time peace to the country upon fair and honourable terms, had now thoroughly convinced every perfou of the absolute necelEty of the pre fent war. He could not expel that any thing falling frets% him could produce any change in the ' 1 fentiments or opinions of the public ; his only ex pettation was, that his opinions might produce fume (mall efeft en thole Members of the Houle whole heads were' more acute and intelligent, and whore eloquence was more perfnafive, than he could pretend to t and that by their means, fuch fentiments might go abroad into the world. It had been Paid It fome, that our alarms and fears are entirely ima enary, and that the enemy have nn intention of put ting their threats into execution—that they only mean to frighten no, and to involve the country in a ruin ous evince. He fhould will thole individuals who entertained loch fentiments, to refles more delibe rately on the peculiar character of the enemy with %lions we have to contend. He fhould with them to recolleft. that this enemy had never yet made a Ilhi eatening which he had not put into execution. He (..tat enemy) had invaded Egypt with tlbe facrilice of *outmode. Net even the dandles of whole az- Mies Obis ealintrynten proved an obdrultion to his ambitious projeas of aggraadifement. Were this country to remain in a torpid Gate of fecurity, he would afk, what would be the confequence ? ". Let us go forth, therefore," (aid he, 4 , with the fpirit of Britons, united both in hand and in heart, to drive the enemy from our Mores, and hold tl:ern up as a fign of public (corn." However glorious this. war might end for this country, he fhould ever be inclined to lament the fituation of other States in Europe, who have already felt the military defpo titin of France, or who mud depend alone upon their own military force, however inadeqoate for their de fence. Though he could not help thinking it to be a neceffary evil, yet he rejoiced to find, that in this country alone our enemy ()mold dikover loch ins tunic numbers, aftuated not only by their intcrefts, but by their own pi inicples, to combat him, and to defend the Conflitution of their CoUntry. We can at this moment. he laid, produce a much larger. and a much better army than France,can pretend to.— In the one, he raw the wretched confc,ripts dragged in chains to fight the battles of their tyrant ; an the other, he fa w thefe who were free pieffing, for, ward falter than it was pantile to fairitith them with Arms, to join their King, in defence Oetheir Contlitution, Laws, and Religion. He Mould 'milt (Moller mita' o'n the patience of the Route. hi fayhag a few words relative to our Navy.— When he canfidered the patience and perfeverancs with which our Fleets have blockaded the ports of the enemy, and Watched their motions, fo, that karcelt a tingle gun boat could ventate forth with out being noticed by our cruizets, he thought that the highell praife was due to the Gallant Admiral and Officers who had been employed On filch a fervice. He regretted that he could not frak with the fame degree of exultation, or even fatisfation, of the fop, preffion of the rebellion in Ireland. He was, bow• ever, convinced, that the rebellion was 'checked, and timely cut down, by the vigilance and aCtivity of Government ; and he entertained the hope, that through time, the feeds of dircord and rebellion would be eradicated. If we could believe the dying decla- ration bf that leader (he was alma going to fey 1 villain) who had fuoh an alive hand in the infurrec. tion, they did not with for the invalinn of the French. —He was impreffed with the idea that the deluded people who joined the inffigators of rebellion, were influenced more by former promifes, epgagements, mad oaths communicated to them, than by an ad vantage which they might think. cqulii be derived from fuch a condua. As to 'the' eonsueils which have been made during the Mort period of the war, he thought they were fuch as might be deemed an adequate compenfation for all the expences incurred, the more elliectally as they had been acquired with out bloodthed. He concluded by thanking the Houte for their patience in hearing him on this fubjea, and hoped that the propofed Addrefs would meet with their molt unanimous concurrence, and that of the whole Britifh Empire. Mr. Fox Paid, I am at, on the prefent occafion, difpofed to enter into the confideration of the general queffion to which the Addrefs reflrs, nor to difpute the foundnas of the arguments employed by the Ho. nourable Mover and Seconder of the Addrefs. I rife merely to advert to two pinta—one of which is omit- ted in the Speech, and the other is particularly al luded to. The point omitted in the Speech is the Mediation of Raffia: a fubjea on which I cannot help thinking the Houfe bad a fair tight to expea tome communication. In the courfe of the lett Se lion of Parliament, when I called the attention of the Houfe to the Mediation of the Court of St. Peterkurgb, a' Noble Secretary of State, not now in this Houfe, did, as wrongly as language can exprefs, pledge Minifters as not only ready to accept of the Mediation of Ruffis, if offered, but if not offered, direaly to folicit it. The Noble Lord dittinCUy pledged hinifelf, that Miniftersi were not only willing to hear the ideas of the Court of Raffia, as to the bed mode of bringing about an accommodation of the differences betwixt this coun try and France; but ready to date what. - ;own ideas were of the mod praticable means'of re ring tl a good underftanding betwixt the two Cou nt e s.—: From all that I have teen, heard, or obferved, I have every reafon to think that the Noble Secretary was fin cere in the pledge which he then gave, and that Mini fters have ailed on that declaration. One would have naturally thought, then, that in a Speech from the Thrones at the opening of a new Setilon, and after fuch an interval has taken place, as might afford fume grounds of afeertaining how far the application was likely to be fuceefsful, his Welly would have referred to the fubjea, and put the Houk in poll - el:lion of the means of determining how far any negotiations were likely to lead to the refult which was in view. I am fenfible that this isnot the particular day for taking up the confideration of the fuccefs or failure of thefe negotiations; but the information. the waist of which I complain of in the Speech, will be, very neceffary when, on a future day, it may come to be difculfed. The other point to which I with to allude, is one particularly referred to in the Speech. In that part of the Sneeeln which refers to the fitwa tion of Ire/and, the Houfe are congratulated on the fuppreffion of the la:e rebellion in that country, and a confident hope is held out of the perma nent continuance of tranquiiiity. From pad experi ence, I cannot Wily flatter mi kW that filch a hope will be realized. I can fee no reafon to think that per manent tranquillity will be ellablithed in Ireland. while the prefent fyftem is purfued. In the Speech it is aliened. that the leaders of the late rebellion had in view the intridation of French dominion into Ire land, and that the whole plan of the intonation was founded on the co operation of a French for::, def. tined to overthrow the britilb Conititution as now eltablilhed in Ireland. Whatever be the crimes of the men who were the authors of the late iebelbon, , 1 with in ( peaking of them to be guided by joitice.— I But, Bir, have not the leaden of the intonation mod unequivocally chi — claimed all idea of a connec tion with the French Government / Have they not avowed, that they reprobated fuch a connation, , even with an idea of promoting their own views Whatever atrocities the rebellion exhibited, and cer tainly no man can think or bear with greater horror of there atrocities than I do, I mad contend th:.t it is not jail to fligmatize the amino. of the rebellion wish at all leaguing theatfelves with the French Go vernment in their views of &buying all conflation with this country. This, I allow, is riot the day on which the confideration of the affairs of Ireland can come &silly beton the Hoak, bet I lboukl feel that r I was not doing my duty to my country, if I were even now to let it be 4 fu •7ofed that there can be any rational hope of the continuance of permanent tranroillity in Ireland, unlefs time meafurts are retorted to of a nature very different from thole now employed. When we recolleet the deferip- Lion given of the general Loyalty of the people of Ireland, when we recollea the reprefetrations given in the fpeeches of Gentlemen in this Home, we Shall be careful of attaching trick weight to any general reprefentations of the Slate of that country. On a fubjed fo important AS this is, I can not think it either wife or fife to trn,i much to gene ral words. I hope and truft that Gertlemen will keep their minds open forany future dirk officio which this fubjea may create. I truSt they will not to far be influenced by reprefentationg now given, or confide fir implicitly in general afTertions, as to think future enquiry unneceffary. It is the duty of every man to revolve the matter deeply in his mind, and not to forestall any meafures or any decision which may hereafter take place. The Members of this Houle could not feel themfelves otherwife than guilty if they fuffered themfelves to believe in the continuance of Irilh tranquillity, bet-ante the country is reprefented as now contented, and bee:lute hopes are held out that this contentment may be permanent. Mr. Fox fat down with declaring that he fhould not difturb the unanimity which there teemed every realm oers think would be maintained in the vote for the Addrefs. The CHANCIILLOR 01 Tilt EXOWIEVII6.-.." rife, Mr. Spealteraor the purpofe of replying to the pbfervations which'have been made . by the Hon. Gentleman, on the fpeech with which his Male Sly has been pleated Co oddrefe his Parliament this day. Ai tbnogh be is Bl ot inclined to oppofe the.viddrefs.• and is difpcfed to entertain a favourfble opinion of the fentiments which generally pervade it, yet it would, he declares, have afforded him more unqualified fa tisfaaion, if the mediation of the Court of Rutlia, lucceilful or not, had been explicitly men tioned in the Speech from the Throne; and that the altuflon to the infiltration in that part of tae Un;ted Kingdom called Ireland. had been couched in other or more guarded expretlions.—Sir, the Honourable Gentleman has Rated, with his accunoteltd nem-. tacy, the general import of that pledge, which, during the last Setlioa of Parliament, was made by my Noble Friend, the Secretary of State, whom it has pleated his Majeßy to promote to a feat in soother Affemblir. My Noble Friend did certainly declare, at the Honourable Gentleman has fairly Rated, that his Majelty's Mininers were ready to accept, not only now, but at any future time, the. mediation of the Emperor Alexander, towards termi moing the unhappy and unprovoked hollility in which the Britith Empire was involved; and that for the porpofe of convincing all Europe of the equity of their caufe and the pacific nature of their intentions, they wduld not only accept itifoffered, bat that they would even condefcend to fulicit it. Sir, for the in formation of the Hon. Gentleman, I will communi cate to him and to this Flotifes that that mediation was offered",by the Court of Ruffia, and accepted with readinefs and gratitude on the part of his 114a jelly's fervants ; and although difeutlims of the great en moment were confequently commenced, yet I am forty to fay, that in their progrefs they did nit af fume filch a Shape as to lead to :thy probability of an amicable arrangement with France. No man can be more concerned than I alit, that the interference or that Court has not been attended with that forcers which the Hon. Gentleman, on a former occation, feemed fo zealous in his expeaation of. Whatever furprize he may exprefs this night, on fo important a eircumflan.ce not having been alluded to in his Ma. jelly's mon gracious Speech, yet I Should not do my duty towards this Houle, cr be worthy of the fupport which I have obtained, and troll I Shall obtain from it, if I ever could have conceived the intention of concealing the refult of that metlixt.on.• But, Sir, I Submit it to the Honourable Gentleman's candour, whether it would have been proper, whether it would have been prudent, on the part of his Majetly, or his official adrifers, to make a communication to his faithful Commons , which mull necefrarily in its na ture be impede& or to allude to the failure of a rte. gociation without fulonitting to this Houle any of thole documents, by a careful examination of which, a reafonable opinion could be alone ellahlinted of the merit or mikondat of the Servants of the Crown.— Sir, with refpeet to that mediation, and the unfortu nate refult of it, whenever it (hall pleafe this Houfe to lay their commands on me, I Shall not only be ready to produce every document thit is neceffary for the due comprehention of it, but to enter into the difctiffion in as full and free a manner as the Hon. Gentleman, or any other Member of this Honk can tangibly &fire. (An raisvrfial cry Orar ! bear!) I troll this declaration will, for the present. complete ly Wilily that oblation of the Honourable Gentle man. With retard to the obfervations which the Hon. Gentleman leas made on that particular Sentence in his Majesty's Speech, in which the late infurration in IrelaM, and the afloat Rate of that country. are mentioned, I forcibly feel that it will not be poi ble for me to coincide. The lion. Gentleman Teems in clined to difapprove of the conftrudion of that fen teace, becaufe, as he lays. it (cams to imply, that the late rebellion or infurration in that country origi nated in a connation with France. Now, aeo.ding to the opinion of the Hon. Gentleman, nothing.ean be more remote from truth than an affertion of - that tenor : for it is notorious, fays be , that not only the leader, but a number of th e fobaltern agents ! in that unfortunate and criminal affair, declared, with the r lift breath, that they had no conflation rtith the Government of France, and that they abjured n-t only French principles, but deprecated any affill ance from that country.—Sir. I do not doubt but lath declarations have been made. The fad is more:ell authenticated for me to quenion it. I have heard it laid, and I fee no reason to doubt it. that the leader in that infiltration previous to the judgment of the court being pronounced on him, ad vifed his deluded countrymen • to confume the g, A 11 under the invaders feet, rather than fuller French principles or French tyranny to be eflablifbed in their native land.' But, Sir, it is not to the declaration of a traitor, in his lan moments. that the Honoura ble Gentleman. or any man of common prudence, Should look for the recent Rate of that country, anti the real principles upon which the criminals en ceroed in the rebellion proceeded. Although a re nunciation of French Alma might poffiely have been nettle in one or two I:fiances, yet his Majcfly's Mini.lers are convinced, horn irrcfracrable proofs, that loch ronnellion inViti, and rh it a declara tion to the contrary cool,' not h eve been made wi!h truth by all the: pcolmi impiicatt.d its that at of treaf in and ditiyalty. f mu- rebellion, we h.ive it, I tray fay, tovh.i •he }rands feats of the perfons who organized i:, dist titcy ores^ willing to eiccipt of France AS An . All)::ll.try. Sir, his Majeity's Milliners are folly iroprefilvl with dr c• that the lead.os of the late inforeaLon a led upon di: fame pita( iple ; and it is nn that , 4 1nund th it the unfortunate citcomflance has bean alluded to in the Speech irom the Throne, in tho;i: partieular terms which the tail sp,,k,r S •Jilpprotre of. —The lion. Gentleman oiliceis to an eviction which has bean ufed in his "malctly's Speech. and is of opinion that Government tit hid rather have expreffed the cv u l, than the / of a fpcedy re iLriration of tranquillity in tliat part of the empire. Sir, I will tell that Hon. Gentleman. and Oro tell this Houle, that the prfons whom his Majellyings called to his gown invent have our barely them*, but a rational and wellgroun.led bee of the cfaib lament of genetal and permamet.t tranquillity in that cowry. I flare, with the ttrongett fa tislation, and with no little exultation, that the conduft of his Majelly's Government has operated a very falutary and matetial alteration in the Lim timents of the majority of the people of that coun try. The fubjefs of that part of the empire, with the exception of fume few daring or deluded men, have at length reforted to reflation; they have cnmpated the equitable and beneficent principles of their glorious Cookitution, with the tyranny said violence of that fyltem of government which Pre vails in France ; and it required no extraordinary liretch of forefight or predilation, to attach tham to that confutation under which they had:grad% and floutithed, or to point out to them the Inevita ble mifery of any sicrolitflim or departure *oat its principles. Sir, it Is this reflation whisif coatribured to retiore tranquility in that ci?9obril and it is to the general propagation of 'tits 160- ment. that his Majefty'l Minitlers look tor the ellablifliment of *general. and, I true, an stein. terrupted ;Ceske of &mettle peace in that portion of the empire. Sir, I cannot agree with the lion. Gentleman i Ms idea, of making the flue of Ireland a fobjelt•oliMmediate difeuffinn. Under ih n ej on tefent circunagianeceit cannot be done with .dik ; A would not be prudent ; I will even liii,-thas it cah oot be done without the rift of confiderably aggro gvating the dirafters which have prevailed there oend Sir, although there feat, need of any pledge fronAlis Majellea .Minittets as to the fitiiatWt and intesselkof that part of the United Kingdoin.• yet, whentwet It toll plonk this Houle, in its great wildest', tamnilt tain,thai suction, I shall fey for myfelf, ond.l. ono 'perfoaded - Vor thofe afficiated with. me in the q t vernment, thit it Sall ere Ifirciitrod with all the pa tience, attention, and temperance, that the hiiptirtadt nature of it may demand. I troll that the Heade will be content with this declaration as to the fecund °Nation of the Honourable Gentleman on the oppo lite bench (hear! Lear! hear!) and that the unani mity which is likely to prevail this night, may eipe ' rience no interruption ; but that we may carry oar exprefliun of gratitude to the foot of the Throne, with that ready and univerfal zeal which the 494- ' merits contained in his Majetifs moll gracious Speed • fo juniy demand." Arisidli a general cry for the (maim, Sir IRANCII &ROSTt rote, aad difclaimings the idea of any oppofitinn tq the Addrefs to his Matelly, in confequence of his moll gracious Speech, he pre mifed, that he Ihould trefpafs on their attention but for a very (bort. time indeed. He had no objections to make to the general.tenor of that Speech, although he was not fasisfied with, and confequeritly meant. to . call the attention of the houfe to, a circumnance miring nit of a Toed - ore highly and particularly approved of in it ; ' he meant the Volunteer Syftem. There were certain difadvantages and dangers attending it, which he thought it his duty to com municate to that Houfe and his Majelly's Miniftersi He was not difpofed to bring a general charge againfl the Volunteers, nor even, how much forte/ he reprobated it, to make the conduft of that particullir company to which he alluded, the &Nat of eenfure; but he thought it advifable and incumbent on hies, as the Reprefentative of the county in which the oc currence happened, to direft the notice of the Hoare to the condat of a paflicular corps; he meant the volunteers of the parifh of St. George and St. Giles. In an addrefs lent forth, under the faroftion of the Officers cf that corps,it is fated, that a firm amount ing to Soool. will be neceffary for the compteat equip ment of it. So far it was perfefly harmlefst but when it was accompanied with the folichatien for a farther fubfcsiption, and a threat to twos the soars of all loch palms is refefoi to fubfenbe, it Gould be called by no other name than an impudent attempt to extort money, and confequently became a proper fob .fra for the cognizance of Parliament, on whole privi leges it tended to infringe. When he few volunteer carps, whole principles of arociation he was in ge neral friendly to, thus crating thenifelyee into legit. lative bodies, and holding their parliaments through the country, he thought It time for the Members of that Honk to look about them. He would therefore recommend to Mittiaers to crude inch proceedings in the bud. The motives by-whi they were afttated. he meant the volunteer • t p , lllbly have been good, though the of tit condua was both mifellievons and ofiZon ittitinnal. He recommended that Miniaert should rather ripply them with money to pnrchafe arms, and whatever elf, the nature of dapsr fcrvice required, than (Ufa them to levy their impotitions in to barefaced a manner on the parks and the fears of their fellow citizens. For one half the expellee attending the eflabliflonent of the volun teer fyilern, an efficient force might have been etta bGßieJ competent to the defence of the States and to conlound the threats and malice of the enemy. He threw out theft few ideas not ion of any hollility to Government, sr Par any purpofe of embarrafing them, but merely with the intention of apprizing them of the illegality of filch proceedings, and the ncceflity of putting an immediate check to :hem. On the Hon. Member's fitting dowu, the suction was loudly called for, and oil being pet by the Speaker. it was unaninsoully carried in the afirma• tire. It was then referred to a committee to prepare the report. nod the Houle, ar twenty =Wows before As o'clock, adjourned ;mil this day. 1 o . ! :mi l ~1~ 1~