Star. — London, England, 1810-12-20 00:00:00

REPORT !MOM THE tOMNITTTEE APPOINTED TO EXAMINE THE PUY SIOIANS WHO HAVE ATTENDED HIS MAJESTY DURING ' ILLNESS, TOUCHING THE STATE OF lIIS MAJESTY ' S HEALTH ; ORDERED BY THE HOUSE OF COMMONS TO BE PRINTED DECEMUER 17 1 18W. Cconchided from yesterday's STAR. Sir 1-Invity HAtronn, Bart. calledin, and examined. You are desired to acquaint the Committee, whe ther the state of his Majesty's health is such as to ren der him incapable of coming in person to meet his Pat Lament, or Of attending to any kind of public bu siness think his Majesty is incapable of coming to his Parliament, or of attending to any public business. What are tine hopes you entertain of his Majesty's recovery ?—I have very high expectations of his Ma jesty's recovery. • Do you found the opinion, given in your answer to the previous question, upon the particular symptoms of his Majesty's disorder, er upon general experience in other cases of the same nature, or upon both ? Upon both. Whether in that particular species of disorder his Majesty has fallen into, it has been found from expe rience, that tbe Treater number of persons so affected .have been cured ?—I think so. Can you form any judgment or probable conjecture of the duration of his Majesty's illness ?—No, T cannot Whether, so far as experience enables you to judge of his Majesty's disorder, you think it more probable that his Majesty will or will not recover, so as to ren der him capable of attending to public business ? I think it is more probable that his Majesty will re slaver so as to enable him to attend to public business. • What degree of experience have you had, yourself, in this particular species of disorder ?—I hare been in practice nineteen years, and during that time a vet y considerable number of cases have fallen tinder my notice. Whether any amendment has already taken place in the courts of his Majesty's disorder, and whether !the appearance of such amendment continues at pre sent ?—A very considerable amendment has taken lace in his Majesty's disorder since its commence ment. I do.not think his led:ijesty has made such pro ven within the last fortnight. When - did . you . last see the King N.-This morning. e What was,the state of the King, at that time ? 4 14 is Majesty had had a quiet night, and was composed in his conversation. Do you think the King was better to-day than he *as yesterd.ty t-a 1 think he was quite as well to-day as he'Was yesterday. Do yOuthink there was any amendment td-day . trom yesterday ?—No ; I think the King was much the same to-day as he was yesterday. ' What - symptoms were there to induce you to think tile disorder was in the same state as it was yesterday, 'When the king had a quiet night, and was composed? —That was the case the greater part of yesterday, though there were occasionally moments of discom posure. Was it the case ye:let-clay morning, that he was corn , posed - ; -No, not in the early part of the Morning. When you say that the great number of,patients 'afflicted with this distemper, according to your own experience, have recovered, do you include in that persont of the King's age ?—The cases of the same aze.with the King, must be very feet indeed ; I think they are generally at earlier periods. Have you seen any patients of the King's age, af feted with the same malady ?•-•eNOt precisely under the same circumstances with the Zing ; the King's ease must be in some respects peculiar. In what does the peculiarity of the King's case con- Sist ?—More in the circumstances of the management. Is there any thing Omitted in the management of the King's case, that would be applied to that of any other patient ?—I believe not. • s there any thins added to the management, in the King's case, which could not be added to that in the case of a y other patient ?—I believe not. Then in what does the difference of the manage rtient consist ?—I conceive the King is more capable of being excited by external causes, from not being in the habits of being contradicted or opposed through his life. Arc your hopes of recovery more faint in the case of the King, from the circumstances you have descri bed, than they would be in the case of any other pa tient mentally circumstanced as the King is ? , ---Not of ultimate recovery. Are your hopes, of the speedy recovery of the King, as strong as they were on the 28th of November, when yon were examined before the Privy Council ? I had not hopes of his speedy recovery at that time. Have you hopes of his speedy recovery now ?—Not of speedy recovery. Can you limit any tme, within which it is pro bable the King may be recovered --I cannot. Have you had any patient under your care, men tally deranged, at or above the age of seventy ?—I have seen.people deranged, above seventy years of age ; but do not recollect that I have had a case under my own care. Of ti:oxe persons, whom you have seen in such a' state at that age, have all or any of them recovered ? cumot speak with confidence to that question ; because, as they have not been people under my own eire, I do not know the result. Do you ru;t know the result c,f aoy of those cases which you have seen ?—I cannot speak confidently to the recovery of people above 72 years of age. Then yon cannot take upon yourself to say, whe the any patient, at or above seventy years of age, orriletn you have known to have been mentally de ll/14es', has or has not recovered ?—I cannot speak aanlidently to that point. • Do you know any one who has recovered ?—I do rick sp, ak of my own, knowledge, but I have heard of M veries. 'Do you recollect the of thos# c►s&s ? What is the present state of the King's bodily kealih ?—Not perfectly good. • What are the symptoms of disorder in bodily health? -.lle has feverish symptoms. Have'those feverish symptoms continued, from the . One that . you were first called in to visit him, to the present stime.?-1-lis Majesty has, occasionally, ap ' inst free from fever ; but I think I can duo be has at any time appeared wifely so. *Areay say cll4' I - etticv ' let which Do you attribute his mental derangeniest to ant Were you preset* at fhl giseinterview betwerin the interliew with the CICI* 'lt -And yet nn beneficien effect was , bodily complaint ?-I should conceive, thlre'werttwo Chincellor and the King ?- Yes. causes of this complaint ; the body mist he predii- Was it by his Miplesty's desire that the autncellot that interview ?eel dn not remember' posed by indisposition, to receive the ;Agree of such was-introduced to him the first time n-Upon men- ' cular good was d e iced from it. a cause as produces the King's symptoms., " . tinnrrig to his Majesty that the Chancellor bad eotne From the second i n terview, self-restraint - ra l in t t is at t,ar th j e ll Ica w, When you say that the body must be prediiposed, to Windsor to inquire after him, the King , eipreseed present, you think ben& .i. .11 e • - I i do you. mean to say that in all cases, derangenient of a desire to see him.C . O. mind is accompanied by indisposition of body ?-I am Was the King :informed, always, of the arrival of .. Do you . kpow whe th er the King speaking of the King's case in particular. the Chancellor, er persons of that eminence, at Wind . gre than ater he d w egree as at o t f h se e . Do you mean to say, that there must in all cases sor, to inquire after his health ?-Not always. be an indisposition of body, when there is a mental , Was it by the Chancellor's desire the King was comparison between the circumstancti derangement ?--I think it probable then must be so.: then informed of his arrival at Windsor ?-No, I be- the iirat interview and the second ; it Have you ever had under your care, or ever seen, lieve not. tame of six or seven weeks; the sym) persons in a case of mental derangement, where it was • Who informed the King ?-I think I did myself, the Fame. impossible for the physician to trace bodily indisposi- but lam not sure. You bevies been present, and the tion ?-on think I have, generally, been able. to trace You, of your own motion, without being desired I either i present or in aro ,m imm e di bodily indisposition. by any body, informed the King , the Chancellor was I with too door open, when th e Ch aucel , Do you think that the King's mental derangement arrived at Windsor to inquire after his Majesty's I interview with the King, and when Mr. depends upon the present state of his bodily indispo- health ?-Yes ; my colleagues were acquainted with ! his interview with the Kin ; how sition ?-Not entirely. n my intention of informing his Majesty, that the Chan - ' cia sto l eave the room entirely, whet When were you first called in, to visit the King in cellor had arrived ..it 'W n htd his Windsor to enquire after his second interview with the Ki his present illness ?-His Majesty asked me some ques. health. . : desirable taat the Chancellor should , tions, respecting the .propriety of taking medicine, on I Did all the Physicians concur in the propriety of ment of the state pf the King uninilueno the evening of the 25th of October. giving his Majesty that information ?-Yes. I sence cf any other person. Did you, then, perceive any symptoms of mental You were directed by the Physicians to give that , Judnment, for v. hat impose ?-..ene derangement in the King ?-The King's conversation information ?-It was agreed upon amongst us that pose ; in the first interview w if, thi and his manner wee hurried. that information should be given. seemed very desirable that the Chat • Was that such, its-to amount, in your opinion, to a Did you consult the other Physicians, before yen able to state to Parliament, what , state of mental derangement and incapacity for bu. introduced the Chancellor, in consequence of the King was. siness ?-I air& net, :.t that time., King's request, that he might be introduced, on hear. Did the Chancellor himself express Had pin opportunities of seeing the King, before ing that he had arrived aanWindsnr ?-.-Yes. theßing, .for the purpose of being the 25th of October ne-Yes ; I saw his Majesty every Did they concur in the prdpriety of the interview Parliament what the state of his K a day,•three times, from the 5d olOctober. between the King and the Chancellor ?- Yes.. not remember that the. Chancellor • Did you, in the interval between the 3d and the I After that consultation Of Physicians, did you, wish ; I think it was rather the with 25th of October, perceive any symptom of indisposi- i yourself, introduce the Chancellor to the first inter. in the first instance. tion about the King ?-I sometimes thought his Ma- view ?-Yes,.l did; the other Physicians being pre..! in thexeoudinsrince I-In the .see, jetty's manner agitated ; but there always seemed an sent. had taken upon ms t•if to use the Char occasion of this, in the report which was made re- Were all the Physicians in the room at the time ? the particular. medical purpose I still specting the Princess Amelia. -I think they were ; if they were not, the door was having neede that intimation to the Ki . Was that agitation of a nature to excite any parti- open, and they were in the next room. i sieians were of opinion; that it was nut cular apprehensions, in your mind, with regard to his Were you yourself in the room ?-Yes. 1 the risk -of. the irritation, which a disal Majesty's mental health ?-No, not at that time. What effect had that interview upon his Majesty ? the King's expectation might occasion. Not at any time, between the 3cl and the 25th of -The King expressed great satisfaction at seeing the' Whit led to any idea, that a disappoil October ?-No. Chancellor. I King was likely to occur, after you ha, You have said, that on the 25th of October, the Had it a beneficial effect upon his Majesty's mental ' posal, communicated that proposal King was not so much mentally indisposed, as to in. health ?- Ido not thinkit made the least difference. ! sicians, and that proposal had met capacitate him for business, or amount to mental de- At the second interview to which the Chancellor rent assent of the other Physicians?-. . rangement ; and you have said, the King is so indis. was admitted, did you communicate to the King that thotneht it proper to observe our premises posed now ; when did the symptoms become so ur- the Chancellor was arrived t Windsor ?-Yes. religiously. gent, as to amount to incapacity for business, and to Did you propose to the KI in to see the Chancellor What led to any idea that that promi establish a character of mental derangement ?-His the second time, or did the 'King desire it ?-I must broken, in this instance ?-When tla Majesty's symptoms increased rapidly on the 28th of state the circumstance : on the preceding morning ' rived, end I intimated to the Chan October. f (the Tuesday) I felted the King involved in a great given such an intimation to the Kin: In point of fact, did his Majesty transact any public I many errors and misconceptions ; and I took the : King had seemed satisfied with th business, to your knowledge, between the '2sth and liberty of using the Chancellor's name, entirely as a seeing him, one of the Physicians 28th of October ?-I do not know. medical expedient. It occurred to me, that the men. ' prehension that it might be injuriot Up to the 28th, was his Majesty in a state to trans. Gen of his r.arne would extricate him from those see the ChancelL;r. • act public business ?-I think so; I think the King I errors, and it had that effect. In consequence of this: Which of the Physicians expressed could transact public business. I ventured to say, tint it was probable the Chancellor sion ?-Dr. Robert Willis. Are the Committee to understand, that, up to the would be at Windsor within a day or two ; feeling ! Did,he concur ultimately with the 28th of October, and on the 23th of October, his Ma. convinced, that the temporary restraint under which or was he over•ruled t-We found, jesty was in such a state as; if he had been a private his Majesty would hold a conversation with the Chan- the King was in anxious expectation individual, he would have been intrusted with the cellor, might be of use in the future conduct of him- for ; and that it was thought better, i transaction of any thing in the management of his self. On that ground, I proposed that his Majesty cumstances, that the: King shouldsee, own concerns ?-I. thin k youswOuld not have been ins. should see the Chancellor when next he cants. l , Did Dr. Robert Willis, then, express tined, in taking from any individual, the power of To whom did you propose that he should see the that jibe had known before, that the - transacting his own business, if, under the circum- Chancellor, when next he came ?--To the King him- be made, he should have objected , stances that his Majesty was, I think I might say, to self. , the objection, for the first time, when the night of the 27th of October. Did you consult your colleagues, before you made . the Chancellor. Has the treatment of his Majesty, in your opinion, that proposal to the King ?-nNo ; I took this entirely I Was that the first time that it in every respect, both as to the introduction of per. ea myself : finding the King under the circumstances 'to 1)r. RobentWillis ?-No; Dr. Robert sons, and the system of management, as well as the I have stated above, it was the determination 'of the lieve, knew the font before. system of medicine, been perfectly proper ?-I be- moment. I Did Dr. Reinert Willis know the . bone sa. When did you communicate to your colleagues day, at the same time as the other You have been Arquainted with the system of ma. that you had made this proposal to the King ?- believe he did. nagement, in the most minute particularity ?-Yes. i Shortly after-on the same day. Was it discussed, in the presence And have-known of every person introduced to the Did they concur in the propriety of the interview Willis. with the other Physicians ?-n. King 1-Certainly. taking place ?-No objection whatever was made. Did Dr. Robert Willis take any part And every thing in the system of management, the When did you inform the Chancellor that you had i sion ?-He made no objection, oertainn system of medicine, and the introduction of persons made that proposal, or that the interview was to take , too late at that time to have prevented to the King ?- I I believe so. place ?-The Chancellor arrived on the following , had any objection been made by an! There has been no person introduced to the King, I day, and it was then communicated to him. t skims. whose introduction has excited any aggravated degree t Who introduced the Chancellor to the se c ond inter. I Has Dr. Robert Willis any particular of indisposition ?-Certainly not. , ' view with the King ?-I did. i King's person, more than any other What is the state of the King's mental health to- IWho was present in the second interview with the I think not. day, as compatednwith the state of his mental health King ?-Nobody but the Chancellor ; I left the room I Have you observed that the King on the 25th of Q'ctoher ?-He is by no means so well when I had introduced the Chancellor to the K . I ing. restraint before Dr. Robert Willis, than as he was on the 25th of October. Did you know whether the restraint, you hoped ' other Physicians ?-I think not. What is the state of the King's health to-day, as would be produced on the King's mind, by an inter- I Are there any persons before whom compared with the state of his health on the 28th of i vie* with the Chancellor was in point of fact produ.l under more restraint than others, of Octobee?-I think, not quite so well as it was on the ced ?-I have very good reason to believe so. i tendants, or attendants upon his person 28th of October. I Have you found; by experience, that any beneficial i Do you conceive the circumstance , You have stated, that there is an amendment in the effect has resulted f rom th a t i nterv i ew ?-I really his Mejesee sight", to have any influence King's health ? Yes. think it has. ` upon tlie Pesent state of his nfejeso Ifhe is not so well as he was on the 25th, nor so Have you, in consequence of that beneficial effect ' think, hitnerto, it has beenan advant well as he was on the 28th of October, with what pe- having been produced, advised the renewal of the jetty is without his sight ; because we riod do you draw your comparison of the present interview ?-No. to conduct him with less irritation. day, when you say there is a state of amendment ?- I Compared with the state of the King's health on Do you think it will continue to _ The first week of November more particularly. i Tuesday, is his Majesty better to-day than he was , and will tend to promote his ultimate Has tht; King had what may be called a relapse, i on Tuesday ?-I th in k h e i s muc h t h e same . , t When his Majesty begins more deci ,,r since the examination of the Privy Council ?-The I How long did that beneficial effect continue ? ' - I think it will be a disadvantage, b King has had, what we speak of in medical terms as ' The King, throughout the dry, alluded to the con-; tain sources of amusement. a paroxysm, since that time. I versation with the Chancellor several times and seem. I You hake said, that you never thougt. Has that paroxysm been one of a violent nature ? ! ed to be a little less under the influence of those er- ' recovery would be speedy ; what partii -It has been one of a violent nature ; but not of so : rors ; he seemed to be rather more easily dispossessed ' of time is within your calculation, when long a duration as the previous ones have been. I onthosa delusions. I word speedy ?-4 speak of some weeks. Has the remission, since that paroxysm, been so I how soon was that benefit lost ?-..-I do not thick it 1 How ni.t.-iy weeks ?-I cannot pretend complete as it had been subsequent to the other pa- ' is altogether lost now. i - Can you form any thing like a setisfaci roxysm of the same nature ?--f think not quite so i When did Mr. Perceval see the King ;on or since I ture, of the duration of his Majesty'' - complete. I the nsth of October ?-I think it was on the 29th of i cannot. Has sleep the desired effect upon the King, gene- 1 October. I Do you think his Majesty's recopery rally and constantly ; when lie obtains sleep, does he ! Was Mr. Perceval introduced to the Kin In 'I it the d.you were ' King, at is ,as you thoug it ay y appear to be more refreshed, and to be more composed . Majesty's desire ?-His Majesty expressed a great de.; the Privy Council ?-I do ; I do not, in consequence of it, than when he has passed nights sire to see Mr. Perceval; having understood that he I Majesty's faculties seem hi any respect without sleep ?-Certainly; always to be more con- had come to Windsor to inquile after his health. 1 the-contiuuance of this disease; so . posed after sleep., I Did i you co mmunicate to the King. that Mr. Pere perception is clear and keen his memory Invariably e-I think so. ; covet also was at Windsor i--Yes ; I think so. the nest faculty usually observed to Have any-of the Royal Family seen the King since I Was that by the request cif all the Physi c ians ?- to be injUied by his disease, and whin the 25th of October ?-Yes. i With the knowledge of all the Physicians. (eel the effects of age, is sound and Since the 27th ?-Yes ; I think the last time the Did they know that Mr. Perceval was to be intro- i meat Queen stw the King, was on the 29th of O c tober ; . diced to the King before he nas introduced ?-Yes ;1 .Has his Majesty had any ' fresh access and her Majesty was the last of the Royal Family who ! and concu rr ed i n the propriety of it. I der since you were examined at the." has seen the King. I Were you present at the interview between Mr. Per. 1 1 stated before, that his Majesty had Have any o th er persons, except his medical atten- ceval and the King;-Y es . I consider another paroxysm ut the disorder dents, and those introduced by his medical atten- i How lung did i t l ast I-I s h ou ld t hi n k , about six I der prevails in paroxysms ; and I dents, for the purpose of administering to his medical or seven minutes. ' I was a severe paroxysm, but of shorter health or comforts, seen the King ?-Yee. I Was any beneficial effect _ _ At what period ?—..The Chancellor has seen the King twice, and I think Mr. Perceval has seen the King. When did the Chancellor first see the King, subse quently to the 20th of October ?—I think it was on the 29th of October ; bin I am not quite certain that the Chancellor saw the`King on that day. When did the Chancellor se the Los the second time ?...-Last Wednesday. As any L. or otherwise, produced by that interview ?—No injurious effect, certainly ; I do not know that I could state that any beneficial effect was produced by it. When was Mr. Perceval introduced to an interview the second time ?—I do not recollect that any second interview took place. How lone did the first interview with the Chancel lor last ?—About eight pr nine minutes. Was the ling wader any self-restraint at the fir 4 the others live been. I think you also stated, that the reco' paroxysm had not been quite so corn; so complete. Has the *emission of the disorder , ,as the remission of the ilsorJer that other paroxysms ; but has • complete. Does that circunntauce all, With respect to dr: probv.Lic 4111., t es, t thing he 3tbewraptsharupdrtouaucletylete. py , e . ou se fo s 4 : yhc i which din you ins was tiud.r ti not in the secn,id ose mi Irj 1 ) fair tlrta i , deg knees of the t the n t it was at is 0 .. sTraPWLIs Mon `" Stipp° the ether Physi; hich he mediate!y adjoi, t h at t tucellor h a d h. wring t en Mr. p ü blic ow Caine the ' You v when t h e Chau, 1 thin E King . • tan luld f orm hiti oa .• f ish t , 'likened by my e‘ particular . the tr the chant,a; chancellor If the Ist the stat : u ' i th df 'x Press to ischatl rtg able r o sta in g Majesty w as Of e for er prened , ink se ish o f t h e Wha 's ma ae see e ln d ;utta pid, sion :bancelior'sa m s stated before. e , Intl ; e pr emis es King,aVA not prom to Do a disappointment. 'sox ti casion. "ta iisappointment to • the )th had mad e t h e Oft sal to t h e other P , ,is Ma, let w i t h t h e . 4 1-las s ?—w e banal . . ices 'nal re " tolithethe'', , sadv: at promise would aieSt e cor a the Chancellor a. Has ;hancellor that I hi King, an d that ity of sedi tw r : eexhr e , us enp o ureus i t t l 4at h 4 c , r the erea Ph nw : - E ereoi sic i iun pse l ; cu , .. ' . . . 2 ra t ` y e ti i 'r t o enne on e n d ui ' the eyeet...!..._ ' ood W a ed ans expressed an a King t Do d, on enquiry, lice t c ll4lL ther t t i w e die : sce asp t c4Pm e c ib loi . l e i the m r 4 C : c —l a4l"h iaai dhan nui wcar' h c e l " e l ... .... hicla pry d• ran Aci s cer e leß° nce t r i a l r o t i t f y :n ; l D rillithe i r t . ?—Yes. ng tc ly part in the disc, leapt tsar ny vented the inters , Wl any one of the fs! over articular charge of t n °ln ather Physicians? I —c ' P 1 ei King Is under ~ Ilis, than before the .1 7 11 1 e whom the Sir( at I s, of his medical c person ?—1 think .. $ :awe of the clefid • Ca influence of war kith& , Ajesty's distract ; vantage that his let A, se we have been abk aaje I is B to'be an &drama% . m iltimate recovery'" t in, decidedly to MOM ore ,by precluding co- u th thought his Majesty ) ; ery Ist particular porta - di n, when you use the weeks. - 'Deur pretend to say. nce a satisfactory cow c o ns sty's illness 011 ; coot corery as near 4 0111 were examined betki l :„ of b ) not observe that ss who respect irnpairea, __/, so far his Mi;cl,ls eon, s memory, wale; s nice to be influenceJ aok a 11c which is the first i 3 fore nd strong ; his judtZ plai access of the du ; "' r disorder ; th e 1 I I gated, ch at :k4 1 hurter duration ILA zinc • Or as t to re covery from ;NA Li ; e h P ad riv la d C , u what ni : ; J the ?---Nutt the der coutismed ad r, l l L ts that took piac.: 3.4 tee as not been c.:ite hi ; 'on Ito tel LIAIC your op.rt- - 4 c duratiwa let Ls