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FO R EIGN INTELLIGENCE. RoTTPRDAM COURANT EXTRAORDINARY, APRIL 9. The following article is copied from the Royal Cou rant of this slate: On toe 31st ult. were exchanged at Paris, the rati ficat ons of the following Treaty, there concluded on the 16th between the respective Plenipotentiaries of the King and his illustrious brother the Emperor of the French, King of Italy, &c. TREATY. His Majesty the Emperor of the French, King of Italy, Pro• victor of the League of the Rhine, and Mediator of the Swiss Confederacy, and hie Majesty the King of Holland, being (lest • rout of terminating thedifferences that have arisen between them, nail of making the independence of Holland harmonize with the new eircitmstances wherein the English Orders in Owned of 1/107 have placed all the Maritime Powers, have agreed to come to a mutual understarding Therese, and to that end have nomi nated as their Plenipotentiaries, viz. his Majesty the Emperor of France, Etc: the Sieor John Baptiste Nompere. Count de Cham pagny Duke of Cadore, Grand Eagle of the Legion of Honour, &c. his Majesty's Minister for Foreign Affairs; and his Majesty the King of Holland, Charles Henry Verheuil, Admiral of Hol land, Grand Eagle of the Legion of Hot oer, Grand Cross of the Dutch Order of Union, his MAjesty's Ambassador to the Empe ror and King: who, after exchanging their full powers, have agreed upon the following Articles : AIT. I. Until the Euglisb Government shall have solemnly alirogated the restrictions contained in its Orders in Council of 1807, all commerce whatsoever is prohibited between the ports of England and the ports of Holland. Should there be reasons for granting licences. those only shall be valid which are delivered the name of the Emperor. • 2. A corps of 18,000 men, * of which 3000 shall be cavalry, and consisting of 6000 French and 12,000 Dutch, shall be placed at all the mouths of the Pivers, together with Officers of the'Fteach Customs, to see ilia. the contents of the foregoing Article are car ried hat° complete effect. s. These troops shall be paid, fed, and clothed by the Dutch Government. 4. All vessels violating the first Article, that may be taken on the Ditch coasts by French men of war, or privateers, shall be declared good prizes; and in case of any doubt arising, such difficulty can alone be decided upon by his Majesty the Emperor. ..S.The rest rictions contained in the above ankles shall be revoked a* soon as England *hall Lave solemnly revs a 1 her Orders in Coun cil of 1807 ; and from that instant the wrench troops shall eva cuate Holland, and restore to her the full enjoyment of her.inde pendet.ce. 6. inasmuch as it has been adopted as a Constitutional principle in Fr.nce, that the course (thak•cg) of the Rhine forms the boun dary of the French Empire; and as the dock-yards of Antwerp are, be the present state of the bourc'aries between the two coun tries, unprotected and exposed, his Majesty the King of Holland cedes to his Nlajery the Emperor of the French, King of Italy, Sec. Dutch. Brabant, the whole of Zealand, including therein the isle of Schouwen, that part of Gueltierland which is situate on the left bank of the Waal; so that henceforth the boundary be tween France and Holland shall be the teektefg of the Waal, from the fen of Scheekens, leaving on the left bank Nimeguen, Bomntel, aed Wondrichern ' then the principal stream of the Merwe which-runs into the Biesboch, through which and also through the Hollandsch Diep, and the Wolkcrak, the line of de marcation shall be continued, until it reach the sea at Bieningen or Gavelengen, leaving on the left the isle of Schouwen. 7. Fa.:h of tl.e ceded provinces shall be released from all debts not incurred for its own interests, sanctioned by its particular _ Government, and furded upon its territory. 8. i Majesty the King of Holland, in order to co-operatel with the force of the French Empire, shall have afloat a squa dron of nine sail of the line and six frigates. armed and provided with six months stores, and ready to put to sea by the let day of June next ensuing ; and al.° a flotilla of 100 gun-boats or otheri armed vessels. This force shall, during the whole period of the war, be maintained and kept in constant readiness. o The revenues of the ceded provinces shall belong to Hol bed :•ntil the day of tl e exchange of the ratifications of the pee s act Treat;. Uatil the same day the King of Holland shall de fray all the charges of their administration. to. AU tl e merchandise imported by American vessels that have arrived in the ports of Holland since the Ist of February, 1809, shall be put under sequestration and made over to France,_ in order to her disposing thereof according to the Circumltances, and the state of her political relations with the United States. 11. All merchandise of English manufacture are prohibited in Holland. 12. Measures of police shall be adopted, for the Purpose of strictly watching, awl taking into custody all insurerstf prohibi ted traffic, all smugglers, their abettors, Ste. in a word, the Dutch Government pledges itself to extirpateet he contraband trade. 13. No depot of goods prohibited in France, and eh At may give a colour to contraband traffic, ran be established within a dis tance of four 'vogues from the line of the French ettstom-houses ; and in case of trt spats, all such depots shall be subjece'to peizure, though upon the Dutch territory. 14 With the reserve of these restrictions, and so long as they eb a n b e i n Opti.xion, his Majesty the Emperor shall suspend the prohibitory decree svhiab shuts the frontier barriers between Hol hind and France. 15. Fully confiding in the manner in %which the engagements resulting from the present 3 reaty shill be executed, his Maj. sty the Emperor and Kirg guarantees the integrity of the Dutch kos eetsioais, such as they shall be pursuant to this treaty. 16. The present Treaty shall be ratified, and the ratifications exchange 4 at Paris within the period of fifteen diys, or sooner if poesible.---Done at Paris, the 10th of March. 1810. (Signed) en•UPAGNY, Duke of Cadoire. Admiral Vtanzata. DECREE. Louts NA sotaox, by the Grace of Goa and the Constitution of the Kingdom, King of Holland Ind Con,teble of France: Taking into consideration that the departments of Zealand and Brabant, the territory between the Meuse and Waal, including Nimeguen, togetly:r with the Bommelerwaard, and the territory of Altora, have been ceded by us to France, by -I Treaty signed on the 16th, and whereof the ratifications have this day been ex changed, we have decreed and hereby decree: Art. 1. The inhabitants of Zealand, Brabant, the territory be tween the Alense and Waal, including Nimeguen, to-ether with the Bommelerward and th e territory of Alfons, wh ither Public ii Officers or others, a; c hereby declared to be, from the date here of, released from their oath of allegiance taken to us. 2. Our Minister !or Foreign Affairs is charged with the pee eution of the present Decree, which shall also be pulthshed and inserted in the Bulletin of Laws. Given at Paris, tile 31st day of March, of the year I RI 0, and of our reign the sth. (Signed) Louis. • RUFFIA. Substance of the Ukase, issued February 2, 1510, by his Imperial Nlajesty, on the subject of Finances, after having received the advice of his Council of State. " All the Bank Assignats (the paper money of the country) now in circulation, are once more declared to form part of the Na- tional Debt, and guaranteed by all the wealth of the Empire. From the present moment,the Bank Assignats shall receive no ii.crease. In order to pay the National Debt, a Loan shall be opened in the interior of the country, at fixed prices. in order to provide for all expenses, and to reduce the taxes to their former state, It is or dered, provisionally, for the present year, and until the pio , lica • I tion of general regulations for the finances and tines, that the ltd. I lowing additional imposts shall take place : "An increase of 2 rubles a-head on the crown peasantry. " An Impost of 3,2 a, and 2 rubles, according to the various governments, on the peasantry occupied in cultivating 'the lands of the State.—Citizens employed in the arts and other branches of public industry, shall pay 5 rubles. " Countrymen trading in both capitals shall pay for every shop 100, 50, and 25 rubles, according to localities, and besides, those of 2tl guilde, per cent. of the capital they have declared I themselves possessed of, and those of the 3d sonde, '25 rubles. " Foreign tradesmen of both capitals shall pay 'lOO rubles, their ;°. partners 10, andtheir workmen 20 rubles.—ln both capitals a duty I of a ruble shall be raised on houses In virtue of existing impost. " The tax on traders shall receive an Itteroatteof half copeck on ; the produce of industry and the capital. " Salt, Lintel-1y at 10 copecks per pool, to be raised to 1 ruble. " The impost on copper shall be augmented 3 rubles per pood: " The Cores om House duties on imported goods, shall be rased from 2io to 4CO rubles, and in proportion. " Stamps have also experienced an advance in price. " The Nobility shall assist in relieving the wants of the State, S., pa)iug My copecks for every peasant in their possession. Substance of the ; by his Imperial M after having receive " All the Bank Assif in circulation, are MCI tional Debt, and guarat the present mornent,th In order to pay the Na interior of the country, ezpences, and to reduc dered, provisionally, fi tion of general rrgulati lowing additional impo t' " An increase of 2 " An impost of 3, governments, on the p of the State.—Citizens i of public industry, ilia " Countrymen tradi 100, 50, and 25 rubles, of the 2cl guilds, pe theniselves possessed of " Foreign tradesmen • partners 40, andtheir of a ruble shall be rail " The tax on trader: the produce of industry • " Salt, Limisly at 4 " The impost on co, • " The Cus om Ho eased fronytiO to 4COI " Stamps have aho e " The Nobility shall pa)iiig fifty copecks PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL. Ift. The Duke of PoLLTt..%t`U took the Oaths and his seat. The Earl of I.rii.R roo:. on the TAhle sundry Papers res pecting the number of .'oretgn troops id British pay, and those of them now in this countr•. FOREIGN TROOPS. Lord KING rose to make his promised motion on the subject of Foreign Troops in the British service, and the number of such now actually employed in this country. His Lordship commenced by making some observations on the ancient constitutional prin ciple, which forbade the introduction of foreign mer cenaries into this land, which practice had so greatly increased during the last 10 years, and that, too, without the only pretext that had been heretofore used for such introduction ; namely, the immediate danger of an invasion by the enemy. He thought that this practice, at all times, a fit ground of jea lousy, and one which our ancestors always looked at with the greatest attention, and with strong and con stitutional suspicion, demanded at present, from the great and unprecedented extent to which it bad been carried, the particular notice of their Lordships on the present occasion. He then proceeded to notice the various occasions on which foreign troops had been brought into this kingdom of late years, par ticularly the American corps, in the 29th of George the Second, and the Hessians and Hanoverians nearly about the same period, which last were for the service of the colonies, when it was enacted that the Colonels should be British born subjects. Much 'more necessary it was to attend to the propriety of ap pointing foreigners to the rank of Generals. There had, it was true, been occasions in our history, in which some relaxation or exception might have been considered expedient. In the reign of King William the Third, for instance, there were foreigners em ployed as Generals in our service, such as Schomberg, &c. nppointnaents that might be necessary and useful at that time ; but in the present times there was nei ther such a necessity, nor such merits to call for an exception to the constitutional principles and practice of the realm. Against such employment of 'foreign troops, he would quote the language of the Act of Settlement. His Lordship added, that there seemed to be even a sort of partiality shewn to the foreign troops, as far as he could judge from the Army Estimates, where he found that the foreign soldier stood at the rate of £47 per man, while the British soldiers were only at the rate of *44 per man ; and that the propor tion of half-pay between 170,000 British troops, and 27,000 foreign troops, was much in favour of the latter. While on the staff, he also observed that the foreign officers retained full pay, while only one-half of the British officers did the same. Foreign Gene rals also commanded districts in the country, through the ambiguity of the provisions of the Act of Parlia ment of the 14th of July, 1804, and by that amhi guity they might just as weil, any of them, be made Commander in Chief, and that two, even qlthough he were a Roman Catholic; because he was an alien. After various other remarks on the propriety of sup porting the constitutional laws of the realm, and the jealousy with which we should look to the employ ment of a.foreign military in this country, his Lord ship concluded by moving Resolutions, censuring the keeping of so many foreign troops in this kingdom, acknowledging at the same time the force of the pro visional acts on that subject ; but asserting that they did not allow of the appointment of foreign officers to the command of districts in this country ;. and, stating various particulars of their present appoint ments, such as the existence of five now in command in Kent, Essex, Sussex, Ireland and Scotland, &c. &c. Thd Earl of LIVERPOOL rose and said, that he did not mean to enter into any constitutional dis cussion on this subject, as he had no opinion contrary to the acknowledged pi inciples of the Constitution. His Lordship had only to vindicate the conduct of Government in this matter, by the Acts of Parlia ment which had been passed upon the subject.previous to the admission of these foreign corps into this min- try. This practice of the Legislature was consonant' to what the Legi4 mire had adopted during the last four wars in which we had been engaged—:a practice not the effect of prerogative, but sanctioned by Par -14111404 after due consideration of all the circum stances of the different cases—a practice upon which the list Administration had acted, as well as that .which had preceded it, or the present one. He rea dily allowed the constitutional Jealousy on this point ; 'ut that ground of objection he thought entirely oh. viated by his Majesty's making an early communica tion of the circumstances to Parliament, and his can ing upon their wisdom to carry the intention into ef fect, at the same time that he enabled them to consider the flatter fully. So far the vote of Parliament was an exception to the general rule founded on the con veniency and urgency of the case. An Act of Par litment passed during the first year of the war, autho rising the reception in this country of such troops, to the amount of 10,00 C). At the present time, he be lieved there were not more than 5(X)0 of that descrip tion, in Great Britain and Ireland. With r.spect to partialities, he must sty that there was no fnundation tor such a charge, or such a sit , picien. The General Officers of the foreign corps did not enjoy more ad• vantages or pay than what the regulations aff. irded to our own Officers; and there was nothing in the Act of 1801., to prevent their appointment. to the Staff. lie s:iw no ground for any constitutional fears ' upon this subject ; and he had hoped, th it under all the circumstances of Europe, and c.f this country, and the carious employments for which our military force might inevitably he destined, that the general opinion of both Houses of Parliament would have been, that the employment of foreign corps, to a cer tain extent, against the summon enemy, wos not only not blameable, but perfectly proper ; more especially vhen it was considered how difficult it was greatly to recruit and enlarge our native military force, under all the circumstances of our increasing manufactures, our thr ving agriculture, and our growing commerce. He believed that no one who was well informed op this topic could refrain to pay to the foreign troops so employed the tribute of praise that he was convinced they merited, for their good behaviour,• and for the courage they had displayed whenever they had been called upon, as they had, to hear their full share in the dangers and glories of the military service. For this, he would appeal to those who had the best means of information. The earl of ROSSLYN made a variety of obser vations on the subject, and entered into a number of details. I - Eis Lordship paid high compliments to the praiseworthy conduct of the C ennui corps 17. British , pay. At first the nuttlea of .-lanove.-;.o ;8, &c. en tered into our serv'ce 'in clnsequnce .of the King's Proclamation, as Elector of Hanover, amounted to about 5.)00 men, in' the year ISM ; but they en creased afterwards, by successive additions of their countrymen, animated to resistance against the ene my, to 12,000. They were not kept idle; but in 1807, one half were sent to the Mediterranean, and another halt to Sweden ; and since that period they had not remained here, except those corps which were reduced by sickness or otherwise, or were merely passing from one scene cf duty to another. He felt himself bound'in justice to state, that they had borne their fair proportion of general actual military ser :vice. Their officers had possessed the command of the brigades of their own countrymen, but not of Bri tish forces, as they had almost invariably been under the orders of a British Lieutenant-General, when both troops were joined on any service in which they had been engaged. The Earl of LIVERPOQL said a few words in explanation. Lord GRENVILLE rose to say a few words on this subject; first, aid' respect to what the Noble Se cretary of State had alluded to respecting a 13111 pas sed during the few months he (Lord Grenville) had the honour last of serving his Majesty. He wished Noble Lords to recollect, that a Bill on this subject was passed at the close of the Session of 1801. ; and . fie hoped they would take example from this instance, uud : every other of this kind, of the difficulties and dangers consequent on such a mode of introducing. important Bills into Parliament, or they would but ill discharge their duty. He would venture to say, that it was in consequence of such a practice, that the em- ployment of foreign Generals remained a matter of legal doubt, even under the provisions of that Bill, notwithstanding a practice of six years since; all which doubts might have been remedied by precisely and properly framing that Act. When he, and those with ! whom he acted, proposed the Bill alluded to, in 180 G, they gave no opinion on the subject, and consequently none could be fairly imputed to them. The formation of the measure was in 1801, and the troops had been sent abroad, where most properly sucll troops should be sent, to their °No country, to the North of Ger many. During the first week the Noble Lord vas in office, he was in daily fear that that army would never return ; but luckily it was saved from the wreck of Germany, and from the rashness of Administration. He also learned the increase of their numbers. They had been invited to joi ~ in consequence of advice (which would have been reluctantly given by himself) not as fugitives, but for the deliverance of their own country, and of Europe, on the faith of a proclama tion. Their situation had to a certain degree become desperate, and they were on their way to the British shores. ft was in that case impossible to exercise any discretion on the subject ; nothing was a more impe rious duty than to keep sacred our faith. Whether the original question were right or wrong, Ministers had no option. The present Ministers wished always, from a bad habit, to ve off' responsibility tns the shoulders of others. I-1 • , old assure them that he came down dispose., r ly to defend the policy he had adopted,hu• • t ! tof 1801. He mas not afraid to avow In 'n that the circumstances of this country -1! •• . . •: ye rendered it adviscabie t a limited , • yloy such troops to in the I common : impressiAt was no: against the employment of the • r..ops, but against the number of foreign Generals commanding districts. This was a case that ought not to admit of doubts, which, it was', unnecessary for, him to say, might, under certain cir cumstances, be questioned in the most disagree able manner. He was much obliged to his Noble Friend (Lord Rosslyn) for his statement respecting the manner of employing the foreign 0 fficers, of whom, and of the troops, lie had no doubt of their merits. They (the Officers) should be employed as Brigadier Generals ; but it was always an inconvenience when they were employed in command, especially so at home. Government ought, therefore, to take great care that such command should be, if possible, but temporary. The King's Servants were bound, in such a case, to exercise more than usual caution, The Earl of LIVERPOOL then rose, am! moved the Order of the Day, which being agreed to nem. Air. a conversation ensued on the resumed debate, as to the Bill for consolidating the clauses of the various Acts, by which capital punishments are i n flicted for otlences against the Revenue Laws. Lord grenville's •niginal proposition for refet ring the Bill to a Select Committee wits changed to one for referring it to an Open Committee, to be composed of all Lords who had attended the present Session of Parliament, which was carried nem die.—Adjourned. lIOUSE OF COMMONS. Sir WILLIM CURTIS postponed the 'wad reading of the Bbcafriars Toll Bill till Tuesday next. A peraon from the Office or the Chief Secretary of Ireland gave in at the Bar an Acrount of the Compensations granted to the Custom-house Officers of Inland, on acconot of the Abolition of Fees. Ordered to lie on thv table. Mr. D. GIDDY obtainedJeave to bring in a IMI to regulate the mode of allowing accounts of Overseen ca the Poor by Jos taccs of the Peace. Mr. CIIEEVEY postponed his moticn till Friday the 4th May. M. RYDER moved thy third reading of the Local Militia. Bill.. Af►er i few words front Mr. C. %I'ynne and Mr. Ryder, the Bill was read a third time and passed. Militiatompletion Bill was read a third time and passed. The further consideration of the Report of the Irish Embez zlement Bill was postponed Momlay. The East. India Commissioners Bill was read a second thr.e and ordered to he referred to a Secret Committee. Mr. I.USHINGTON brought up certain Papers relating to the 4'..bolition oftlie :Awe Trade. Ordered to be primed. Mr. I.USHING EON brought up the Report pf the Ir.nkecpers Allowances Bill, which was agreed to, and the Bill ordered to he engrossed and read a third time to-morrow. Mr. LUSHIIIGTON brought up certain Papers relative to the state of bullion. Ordered to be .referred to the Committee. The Private Stealing Bill, the Dwelling house Bill, the Canal Robbery Bill, went through a Committee. The Report ordered to-nuirruii. • SIIITHFIELD tIARICET. • The order (4' the day being read fir the second reading of the Smithfield Market Bill, CHARLES PRICE supported the Bill, on the ground that the impediments which stood in the way when the last Bill was introduced for the removal of the Market, were removed, as .. pleci of ground has been procured, consisting of 12-acres, where the: cattle were now brought previous to their coming to marker. —He concluded by moving, that the Bill be now read a second time. • Alderman COMBS opposed the Bill, because the rre•ent Market wab held by charter, by which tin ni:trket for the sal of cattle could he held within ten mile 4 of Smithfield. it wou .1 be I also extremely injurious to many persons who lived near the liar krt,an 4 who in fact depended upon it for the maintenance of twin- selves and families ; and as it was proposed to add five acres more . to It, he saw no reason for removing the Market to any other place, and he therefore moved an amendment, that the Bill be read a second time this day six morrhs. Mr. ROSE supported the Bill, on the ground that it was sary to have an area of 12 acres for the accommodation of the cattle, and as the enlarging the market would be attended pith an enormous expence, a new toll would b e a dd e d b y the Corpora, Lion, which would ra increase the price of meat. Mr. HENRY MARTIN opposed the Bill ; and Mr. Wilber. force, Mr. Windham, Mr. W. Smith, and Mr, Hawkins Browne were for its being referred to a Committee. Sir JAMES SHAWE supported the Amendment, on the grounds that dye acres more were offered for the enlargement of the market, which would then make it eight acres in the whole, which would be ample and sufficient. The House then divided. For Alderman Combe's Amendment, -Ayes 20—Noes 70--m a „ jority against the Bill 10. BOARD OP ORDNANCE. Mr. CALCRAFT waived the motion for the et. pulsion of Mr. Hunt till Monday, as the House w:h not yet in possession of some necessary letters. H e should therefore confine himself to a resolution re specting the securities. It appea re d, t h at t h e M aster. Genera of the Board 'of Ordnance had been guilty of a great breach of - duty, by which the country would lose aftlo,ooo, in not requiring from Mr. Hunt, on his entering on his second Treasurership the securitiereprescribed by the instructions of Charles H. A letter from the Secretary of the Ordnance had been written to Mr. Hunt on the subject, but no answer had been received, nor did it appear that any farther step had been taken on the subject. He conceived that this was an indefensible breach of duty which the House could not pass over. He enu merated the Members of the Board of Ordnance, and contended that they had not that overwhelming kind of business, in pleading which they might find excuse for such a breach of ditty. The first - Rest:du. Lions that he intended to propose were of fact; the last Resolution was of cencir: - .. The Honourable Gentleman then read his licsolutiens, %%Lich were to the following effect : Resolved—'l hat it appears to this House, Joseph Hunt, Fsc. Member of this Hous:, has been twice Treasurer ot his Majesty's i Board of Ordnance. That he was nearly 18 months in that office I en his first appointment in 1803, before any secunty ss s.s c.li• tained, and that on his second appointment in 1807, i: is not re. corded in the Ordnance Department, that any security vihatsoevet was given by hint. 2. — That it appears to this House, there Is a balance of £93,94G against the said Joseph I hint, Esq. as late Treasurer of the Ord =nee. 3. That it appears to this House, the Master-General did. Majesty's Ordnance is directed in the original instruction of Kin Checks 11. under which he and the B o a r d now act, to take frail the Treasurer upon his first entrance on the vtecution of his place, security to such an amount as he may judge necessary, and as shall be aprroved of t, the Treasury. 4. 'That it appears to this f lau.e, the !e:surity taken in the first Treasurership of Joseph Hunt, l'sq. nearly i a months after his entrance on the execution cf his place, was XlO,OOO. breach of the in. 5. That it appears to this House, no security was taken on the second apppintment of Joseph Hunt, Esq, Y of f w hich a they r ) s d uonfderOrdnance,which t h h e a y v have ct b , e been and u i i i l y t G. '1 hat it is the opinion of this House, the Master-Genera) : t n r d u e l I t ro a l hound, in negh:ciing to take security from Joseph Hunt, Esq. Member of this House, and are responsible and censurable for this great omission of duty, which from the slate ofthe balancei against the said Joseph Hunt, Ely. has actually occasione4 a loss of £lO,OOO to the publip. Mr. ASHLEY COOPER did not rise to oppose the motion of Mr. Calcraft, but to propose two other resolutions. The one, stating in substance, that the Board had required the necessary securities, and ths other granting leave to bring in a Bill to re ulate es' d mode of granting securities in such cases. e, h ow : ever, thought the resolutions now propo rather severe, and said that there was no general charge of suspicion or neglect against the Board. Mr. PONSONI3Y expressed his astonishment at the odd sort of defence set up by the Honourable Gentleman. What had the Bill he proposed to do with the punishment of past, and undeniable neglect of public duty ? There was a ciear case before them; and if the House would pass it over, they never could again assume even the name of guardians of the pub lic purse, The sum, to be sure, of £lO,OOO was not alarmingly great ; but that had nothing to do with the principle cf the question. If the House passed this over, it would be a vain attempt to persuade the people of this country, that that House paid the smallest attention to the public interests. ' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not deny, that there had been a neglect of chat, hut he thought the censure proposed was rather at the extreme ; £lO,OOO was not lost to the public, for the person who had absconded was himself bail to the amount of £5OOO of the whole sum., At the sane time he did not mention this as a palliation of the neglect that had occurred. He spoke highly in cores mendation of the services of Mr, Crewe, and though* they I;ad a strong claim in the present instance epee the House. He defended the propriety of the remedy in the Bill proposed by his Hon. Friend, and thought the prevention of more consequence than the punish ment of an individual. Mr. BARHAM said, that he did not feel himself bound to consider.upon whom the ceesure was to fall, but simply whether the censure itself was not just. , -4 He ridiculed the idea of a Bill to compel everrpublic officer to do his duty. He ,admitted he should feel pain in the vote he WO about to give, but no such consideration was to deter him from his duty. Mr. WHITBREAD could not conceive what • could be the extraordinary weight of business, that occupici a Board sitting but three times a week, se much as to prevent they attention to minor duties, as they had been called. Did the Board look over the minutes of their proceedings upon the last day of meeting, on the next succeeding day ? Another !soli t was, that there had been no Master-General of die Ordnance for a month. Could the Board continue to do without their most efficient officer ? He denied that the proposed censure was as severe as it had heed alledged • it was contained in one word, censur able, for all the rest of the Resolutions related simply to matter of fact. It the House could overlook the case now before them, it would he as well not to bring allegations of this kind at all. He submitted it to the modesty of the House, if they could accede to the very qualified censure proposed by the Right Honourable Gentleman .' Mr. GEORGE JOHNSTONE contended, that the loss sustained could only be- regarded as £2500 • from each surety. It would be viewing the matter too lightly to pass by this conduct of the Board alto gether without censure ; but still he could not go the full length of the Resolutions. He shouW.move, in stead at the Vote of Censure, 4 4 . That the Board of Ordnance had been guilty 4t - an omission of their duty in neglecting to take securities from Joseph Hunt, Esq. a Member of this House, and late Treasurer ' of the Bciard of Ordnance, conformably to the insult:. j !Lions usdtr which they acted."