Star. — London, England, 1808-05-06 00:00:00

The bake of ATHOL - defended the. Bill, as well ) calculated to promote the ends of justice ; and that I by dividing the Judges into'two Chambers, more re . HOUSF. OF LORDS, THURSDAY, MAY 5. I gular decisions would be given. As to the petition Cluns , 4 W 39 heard on the Roxburgh Appeal Cause. mentioned by the NOble,Lord, as coming from Scot. Mr. Wit.% kTO:4 , Colonel Sl' A N 1.L% , andseve..ral Members from land, he was inclined to pay no more attention the Comtnins, presented a copy of the minutes of the evidence than he would do to that of a petition presentedie taken before a Committee of the whole House upon the petition of certain Merchant, and Traders, trading to the United States Old Sarum. He wished most ardently the welfare of America, against the late Orders in Cotutcil. Ordered to lie on of that part of th 4 enuntry where he had lived, and the table. _ I where he hoped he would die. _ _ . PARLI,IMEIVIW Rr PROCEEDINGS. Mr. Wn Is rox, Colonel Sr ext.rv, &c. also brought up the Irish Spirit Drawback Suspension Bill, and t'aree Land Inclosure . Lord HOLLAND rose in explanation, and stated, Bali, which were severally read a Cast time. ' that the Noble Duke had misapprehended him, if he Lord H AWRESBDRY presented certain accounts respecting thought that he had given his : opipion as founded on Offices in Reversion. -Ordered to lie on the table. the Petition. What he said was, that several Noble D.CNISO VESSELS. • i Lords had statcd, that the Scotch were unfavourable Lord SIDMOUTH, on the suggestion of Lord Hawliesbury, to a trial by Jury. But if it vi as, how came it that moved, that their Lordships be summoned for Friday next, he , 0 itiou purposing to bring forward some . propositions concerning the Da. 11 JliA VeSt.h. .. 1 F ri end ' s pet Bis had been presented •against his Noble Bill. CATHOLIC PETITION. LOH expressed his anxiety to bring forward this most importint question upon the earliest opportunity ; hut in con sequence of the necessary absence of a Noble Earl (Grey), 001111 stoned by some indispensable domestic concerns, he felt himself obliged to postpone the consideration of this question to a padod enure distant than he had originally intended, as he felt he cAld not do that justice to the subject which he wished, without the assistauce of his Noble Fiiend, from whose knowledge and expe rience he should derive much benefit : with the hope, therefore, Lord MORTON: thought that the Noble Lords had wandered from the subject, in discussing the in troduction of a trial By. jury, and thought it would have seen better to have postponed the debate on that measure,. till it came regularly before the House, and defended the Bill. The Earl of GALLOWAY spokc at some length in favour of the Bill. that his Noble Friend would be able to attend in . his place, his Lordship moved, that their Lordships be summoned upon the 27th, instead of the ifith inst Should his Noble Friend be.una • ble t., attend on that day, he should further postpone it fur a few do.ys longer, giving their Lordships sufficient previous notice of such intended postponement. Lord H.IWKESBIJRY thought It would be a matter of much convenience to the House, that the Noble Baron should change his motion from the 13th to the 27th, as the notice of his Noble ; Friend ',Lord Sidmouth) stood for the former day ; at the same time It: expressed a wish that the Noble Baron would not put off.' his motion, at least many days after that period, as it might be attended with much inconvenience to many Noble Lords who might wish to declare their sentiments on The discussion of the question. The motion was then agreed to: ORDERS IN COUNCIL. Lord GRENVILLE stated, that from the many years business. now before their LordshiN in regard to appeals ; according to calculation of the number that were yearly decided, it might be emphatically said, that the House was bankrupt in the justice they owed to the country. His Lordship contended, that the Bill was not at all calculated to promote or pm. cure better decisions ; but, on the contrary.: that the number of appeals would be encreased, and the House rendered still less able to do justice to the country, because it would impede their decisions on the appeals from this country, as well as from Ireland. • The preamble being postponed, a discussion took Lord GRENVILLE again rose to state his anxiety to bring forward a discussion upon another very important question ' • but undtrs:areling that the discus,ions between this country and the troired Stars of America were likely to come to a happy termi ration, and in 012 hope that the King's Ministers would see the necessity- of : estinding the late Orders in Council, he should also postpone the corsidet a:ion of that question. If, however, his Ma jesty's Minis:el..; did not in due time take some measures for that purpose, he should feel it his duty to bring forward the matter, and niove an add:: 3 1 to his Majesty to rescind those Orders in Caanei!, of evliicb iaoti , ..n he should give previous notice. Lord ILA W Ki . .-;31.1RY rose, not for the ; , •::pose of trespassing en the . in:e of their Lordships: but, lest his silence should he con strued inns an assent to the Node Baron's NV i.hes upon this sub. i,--:, he should cely say, that at present his Majesty's 'Ministers 1.....: no such inteution in contemplation. HOUSE OF COMMONS. SI.7OTCII JUDICA TURE. . Mr. VILLIERS, from the Committee appointed to try the The House resolved itself into a Committee upon merit. turn i.,,r 0 f t h t c h . l e T ni Petition v,t,sl ty complaining ,,li)ub un reported of a t undue hat the Scotch Judicature Bill. The question for post-the sitting and piling the Preamble being put, her was duly elected, and that the Petition was net friv ig olows or Lord ER S RINE rose, and expressed his regret vexatious. that he could not 7ive their Lordships any assistance Mr. SHERIDAN held in his hand a Petition from Mr. St. in this measure ; for from the very nature of it, he John Mason, a Gentleman of the Bar in Ireland, who, in the year was convinced, it AV:IS not at all calculated to remedy ir suspicion,a,anrlat an the d ontiemeftnofed in jail the upwards o insurrectionin f D iw u o lbli.aen,weasatarihrie ex the sted o evil complained of. During the short time he p i rat i on o f w hi c h h e w a s discharged without any inquiry or trial. had had the honour to preside in e that House, he In fact, it was well known that the, suspicions under which he was viewed with astor) , lment and regret the accumula- confined were unfounded. What he especially complained of t tion of a that uartet of the United Kin was, that h: was not only used ill whilst in contineMent, but that ppeals from q when liberated he found hiMself ruined in his profession and cir (lona, and having giver. the subject the utmost torsi- 'CUMStaIaCCS ; in consequence of which the Petition he then held deration, he found it 'Nholly impossible to take any in his hand '313 deems, .I expedient to k.essait ;it prayed relief sleps which could tend to reduce them. By the pre- • Elam time Heusi , . sent measure, it was intended to split the Court of The SPEAKER enquired if he sought pecuniary aid, as I c Session into two Courts ; but this could not remedy ;that can: it ,mint have the. concurrence of his Majesty's Gever meet. or even stop the evil ; on thacontrary, it went to en- . . 'Mr. SHERIDAN answered, that it did colt it prayed relief courage and increase it ; and he was decididly, of generally. . . - opinion, that nothing hut the introduction ache trial ' The Petition was then Presented; and readdiy the Clerk at the by Jury, and odiseavise assimilating the Courts of table,-the substance of which was as 'Mr . ..Sheridan had stated. Scotland with that of England, could do away the - He, then Moved that it do lie upon the. table, evil of suer an accumulation of appeals. • ' 'on this question being put, - • • Sir ARTHUR 'WELLESLEY observed, that he had no objet- Lord ELDON, in taking a review of the general tion to the Petition being brought up, but he was at a loss to know principle of this Bill, declared himself by no means how the House could interfere on the subject. adverse to the introduction of the trial by Jury, pro- • . • Sir LVAN NLPhAN said that be did net hear of any corn vided it should hereafter be fcKind expedient. By plaints of the kind mentioned. in that petition : all he knew was, dividing the Court of Session into two Courts, and that as soon as it was ascertained that the Gentleman. in question giving the party power of carrying his suit from-one ' was held in custody without proof of guilt, he was liberated. or those Courts into the other, the natural result in Mr. MOOXF. complained of the iU usage which the prisoner his mind would be the reduction o the number of received whilst in confinement, and thought that if the circum. f . stances sated to him wore true, the Government of Ireland was appeals to this house. His Lordship, after adverting Much to blame. to many arguments used upon the former discussion, M r :DENNIS BROWNE v indi ca t e d the Government there, confessed that this was not a perfect measure, but and said, that Gentlemen on the ether side of the House were merely a beginning, in order to try the effect it might much too ready to censure, and he was persuaded, that, on have ; and if it should be hereafter found to be atten- investigation, they would find their censures at least as ground less as the circumstances were that led to •Mr. Mason's imprison dad with beneficial consequences, they might then meet. I.roc-ecl to sr mething boner ; but, in cases of so great Mr. WILLIAM SMITH reprehended the mode adopted of innovation, he thought their procedure should be throwing people into prison, and theriliberating them orithpos any gradual, remuneration for the injury done them, which he contended was Lord LAITDERDALE contended that this mea- the least they had a right to expect, especially when it appeared thi.esonprisntin when hoing.c the ouldalftnees for suspending c l t en th sn eirinttitrity.andinnocence This was sore \vas calculated to increase instead of diminishing h the appeals. e conceived that an intermediate Court Act were in agitation here, and he argued that the Habeas Corpus the the same principle s of Appeal was the only measure which could be at- ought to prevail here and in Ireland also. He was therefore de-' tended with any beneficial effects, and warmly advo- eidedly a supporter of this Petition, although he knew nothing cased the measure proposed by his Noble Friend ( Lord whatsoever of the complainant. it lone ‘ l s. B F A i R I It Fs it i , ,F M ‘ r. M.O e 2RP Mr ., Ga EN VILLE) during the last Session of Parliament. Dr Af D te l l l s ß e gs. v •A ers N atio l ARTH hetweett eini Lord ROSSI.I ‘ fhT opposed the Bill altogether, SHERIDAN, the Petition was ordered to lie on the table. nr. I reprolveed the principle of establishing only two • XIII I.TON ELECTION.. • Chanibets, without any Court of review, as they The following Gentlemen were appointed to try the merits or , Thiele -ry open different points of law, and thus Mill- ' this Election, viz.— 1 Cply the nuinber of appeals. Interim possession, he W. Lewis Hughes, Esq. Earl of VarmoutS. contended, was also extremely bad, on account of the G Si eo r I: F I' 6 V:s q .:I F ' B q a . rt. Sir J. Da3hwooel King; Bart. Sir Evan Nepean, Bart. length of time before appeals could be decided ; and, i k !..a co l„, 1, 4 1h g , E sq . • John Leman, Esc particularly, its many causes were reversed. From a Henry Swam, Esq. . John I.s.wther,Esq. calculation he had made, the number of appeals with- Sir H. Vane Tempest, Bart. Janies O'Callaghan, Esq. drawn, were about two in five, and one third of the John J. Blackburne, Esq.'•• . . . . . remainder were reversed: this was certainly a very Nosmri.s Charles Dundas, Esq. Benjamin Hall, E . serious consideration ; and their Lordships ought to The interment Bill was read a second time, and : g reeted to be pause before they agreed to a measure, which, in its committed. consequences, was to occasion so many cruelties. Sir ARTHUR WF.LIX.SLEY, after a few observations from Lord REDESDALE defended the Bill as a. mea- Mr. PONSONBY, obtained leave to bring in a Bill, eitipowering' the Post-Master-General of Ireland to purchase certain ground sure which ought to be preferred to a great innova tion, which was at all times extremely. dangerous. and premises fur the Post-O r ffi i ;th w e t re . . s. That it might happen that the number of appeals Mr. IRLSJCISSON stated, that as great Inconvenience had' might lie encreased at first ; but afterwards he had no ' arisen co the reventie by the nianner in which the payments had doubt, but it would be attended with very salutary i been made by publicans for obtaining licences, itwas his intention effects. He had opposed the Bill formerly introduced, i to submit amain arrangensepts to the House, which, be trusted, y o r t ould o obviate i t i l i :n o i n i .. n w fu u tu i re o . i ' e l'h e The he had in view n consisted i as he considered it contrary to the Union ; and was to irate too great an innovation at once. • If the present I ,solely to p the Z:,oUeetor of Excise g Mr m e ch Atri u m; ancl.Fae other es . measure was found to answer, other alterations could ! was that all persons who retail but he thought in the first Place, ale, aiwell as spirits and wine, eas'ly be rtaele ' should have recourse to hint for their! several licences, so that the : Bill was well eiSileulated to answer the end propOss the proposed. i burd enpreve or of the in M an agi e s ee trau eie l in wo t u b ld e en t i tr e ht fo en r e t il h , e and th e e circuitous h Letd HOLLAND opposed tfie Bill, and comf' : prevails , Is w ay Oul g d be done awa g y. It Would be necessary 's :lt:Te l w r, mended that which had been brought in by . his Noble : for theClealer or pulnican,hefore he shall obtain suds licence from Friend. as containing such sound _and philosophic 'the Cagectcr, apt to get fromthe Magistrates otitis district a err tifieme entitling kits thereto, which, when presented to the Col eAs to the trial by Jury, notwithstanding principles. . lector, would be hb authority for the licence, on the payment of the opinions of many Noble Lords, he believed that two guineas. He thiiimoled; . that the House will, to mor ,the Scottish ration were generally favourable to that tow,resolve itself into a *Committee, to consider so much .of an Act of the 44th of the /Sins Zs Matta to granting Ale, Wine, and me .sure, i ne proof of which their Lordships had peen i tc pe ition he had the honour of presenting to the . s p irit l' lcen c"* ".. • ' • Ordered, after a new okservailtens from Mr. Geonot VANSIT.• tionse. although some of theit Lordships had given ?m : it?, Mr. DAvies GIDIIT; Sir jOlll4 New roar, said Mr. Li other opinions. Paves. , pike on dividing the Judges Chambers, when Lord , Grenville moved as an amendment, that the word three' instead of two' Chambers, be inserted. This amendment was defended by Lords Erskine and Lauderdale, and opposed by the -Lord Chancellor, Lord Hawkesbury, and Lerd Redesdafe. The amend ment was then put and negatived. On the motion of Lord Hawkesbury, the Chairman reported progress, and the subject was ordered to be taken into consideration to-morrow,—Adjourned at half past eleven. • „AM1119 . 11115 TAtili: • 011 . 4 Te order of the day being moved for the House going into a Committee on the Assessed Taxes, . Mr. BIDDULPH 'said, he would not enter' into any distirkct objections to any separate clauses of the re solutions now about tp be proposed, because his objec tion went radically to the whole c he stated, that the sum proposed to be raised was 100,0001. and that a sum equal to this did • of right belong to the Consoli dated Fund; without the imposition of any additional taxes, which sum should be drawn from the sale of the demised hereditary revenues of the CroWn. He enforced this pOsition by several observations. Mr. ROSE objected.to the mode adopted by the Hon. Gentleman. He said that the revenue, which his plan would produce, would not, in his opinion, amount to 50,0001. and if such 50,0001. were laid out according to the Hon. Member's idea, the Civil List .would be deficient, and Parliament would be applied to, to.make it up. Mr. HUSKISSON said, he held in his hand an ac count of the amount of the demised hereditary re venues of the Crown, which had been moved tor by the Hon. Member himself, in 1797, wherein the sum amounted in all to about 30,6141. Mr. BIDDULPH said, he supposed it was an im perfect account. Mr. ROSE said a few words ; when, on the ques . Lion for the House going into a Committee, there ap • peared—Ayes 51—Noes 21. . On re-admission to the Gallery, we found the House in discussion on the re-committed Assessed Tax Bill, and upon that clause which requires all per sons • carrying guns for the purpose of shooting rab bits, to take out a game licence. After some diNc es . sion, the clause passed with an amendment, excepting farmers shooting rabbits on their own grounds, bias . much as they were really destructive vermin to young plantations, hedge-rows, and other branches of culti vated vegetation. Mr. BIDDULPH again resumed, his objection to grant any additional tax whatever, until the account was produced which would spew the proceeds from Crown Lands, and•the Mode of their application ; for he was convinced,.from the Report of the Finance •Cdmmissionets, that those rents must be grossly ill- . managed, and that, with proper apnlicati• 4), they must produce a sum which must render arty additional tax whatever, at this,time, unnecessary. • Mr. STURGES BOURNE, Mr. HU,S KISSON, and Mr. ROSE, all argued that those rexennei were as well managed as any other branch of the public finance, under the vigilant direction of a Surveyor -of Crown Lands, who was bound upon oath to male ir valuations and correct returns. _ Mr. PONSONBY considered - the mode adopted in the present year; in respect to the public finance, by his Majesty's Chancellor of the Exchequer, as con trary to the usual course of proceeding. He alluded to the calls already made upon the Hotise to vote loans, taxes, and Exchequer Bills,' without bringing forward his Budget, or explaining to the House, how the supplies of the last year were disposed of, or what supplies would be wanted for the present year. He thought, therefore, that the Committee should now report progress, and proced no further until a full and satisfactory statement of the expenditisies of the' last, year, and an explanation of the finauCes for the present . year, were laid before them. . The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he had already explained on a former night, both' the extent of the supplies that would be wanted for the present year, and the ways and means •by , which he proposed to raise them ; but whether . that explanation was sufficiently satisfactory to the Right Hon. Gentleman, was another question. The rea sons which had hitherto induced him to keep back the budget for the year was, with a view to obtain the loans-which were necessary for the year on more fa vourable terms than if he had fully explained and brought them forward at an earlier period ; and the result justified his intention, inasmuch as the funds had experienced a rise of five percent. since he negotiated his loan for four millions by Exchequer Bills. This•occasiotied a discussion of con.siderable length, in which several Members spoke. Mr. PETER MOORE contended for the absollite necessity of satisfying the House, by the production of all the public accounts,. and the usual explication of the Budget, before any additional loan or tax of any sort was voted, inasmuch as upon the public finances of the country was founded the whole super structure of all. OIIT public establishments, civil and military, and the very existence of the State itself. Mr. HUSKISSON and Mr. ROSE both defended the withholding the Budget; and the delay of the Loans, on the same ground •with the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and stated, that there would be a saving of half a million to the public from the rise of. stock on the sums wanted. Mr. ALEXANDER BARING admitted that the consideration stated might have been a justifiable mo tive for keeping back the budget and loans ; but, if the Right. Honourable Chancellor of the Exchequer realby acted upon any speculative expectation. upon a probable rise in the Funds, was it not highly impro vident for him. to negociate his loan of four millions so much earlier, with a loss of 5 per cent.. to the public t He however differed materially from those who argued that the rise in the Funds was solely anti. butalale to the operation of the Sinking Fund. He, on the contrary, thought that it was principally ow ing to the depression of our trade, which drove corn - - inercial men to the necessity of withdrawing their capitals from trade, and-placing them in the Funds, in order that they might be producing some profit, until an opportunity should occur of turning : them to better advantage. With respect to the loan itself, the withholding it did not tend to hurt the interests, •or disappoint the speculations of those who might be inclined to take a share s • for they might make' their speculative bargains, if they looked to a rise of the funds, in another way, so as to secure their pro fits independent of any share in the loan itself. Mr. HUSKISSON utterly denied that the high price of the funds and public credit could be consider ed a criterion of the depression of commerce. He was convinced the Honourable Gentleman, possessed as he was of acuteness and extensive commercial knowledge, would not admit as true . the converse of this doctrine, that the low state of thepublic credit is a proOf of the commercial prosperity of the country. -Mr. STEVENS argued to the same. effect. • He said, the Honourable Gentleman's inveterate antipa thy to Ole Orders in Council induced him to, impute every depression of commerce to their operation, not- withstanding the. known and unleniatite fact, that 4,, =sion.hati commented three.months lietc,rethme Were issued. He himself, as an advqe ate. j .ro the defence of those orders, could not admit them 2 , the cause of such depression, but. on. the contrars s ;. contended that our commene had considerably, creased under their Operation. He denied that th e alledged,depression of trade would drive comm erc ii •men to place their capitals in the funds,. Avi ntsmas the case with America under the lateembargo ? Th,t; measure caused a severe depression of trade.; y et k did not appear that American funds. were.higher, f n r . they were very much roduced, . Mr. BARING denied that the American Fund s had fallen, although they eGst . not ri s e. But it was the apprehension of being involved'in,:a war thatker ' the American merchants from purchasing in the hunk Sir JOHN NEWPORT supported the opir.ion tti Mr. Baring, and said, that in proof that the depre s . sion. of trade in a country might have the effect a considerably raising the price of stock, we need on l y look to the case of Flanders, where at the time w h ea trade was totally stopt, the funds w higher o w; in any other part of Europe. But independentl y ,j .the transfer of commercial capital in England . to this funds, in consequence of the depression of trade, a very large share of British capital, eniPlo Y ed in car , rying on trade in Russia and Portugal, wa s h ronsta !ionic, in cbdsequence of the stoppage of all British trade in those countries ; and it was, naturalry enough,, placed in tlie.public funds, where the owner.; could alway.cpmmand it when wanted, rather tl.ati vested •in ,the - .purchase of lands, where proptletsns could not always withdraw it at pleasure ; aad this accounted for the present high price sa stuck. After some liirther discussion the Coninottee went .through the bill, and the Chairman was ordered ta report : to-norrow. , M AVNOOT.II COLLEGE. RTON ithen brought up the Report of the grant - tp . the Catholic College of Mayriooth. • On the nio;ion, that this Report be read A second time, • Sir J. NEWPORT rose, and went owl- the• riot's arrninieuts which - hehad formerly: adduced in support the g`rantbeing the same this year ac it had been the preceding. He contended, that the proposed diminution from £13,000 to 89000. discovered principle of- intolcra ace and proscription towards •th:- Catholies of Ireland, and concluded with. Moving. that the Report be re-committed, fur farther . cons.- • dcration. - Sir A. WF.LI.ESLEY - replied to the• - p-:.zuntentt of the HOnourahle Baronet, going civet the . I vounds that had been stated on the firmer deliatc on this. sullicet. lie observed, that. it , hail heel . Liken for granted, that the bestowal of. the, funds for the support of the College, would give :the Go. . vernment a degrei.! of influence over those who . cot ducted it. This, however; had not pr(;ved to be'the case, fbran instance had come to his lifnewledge, in which a student had been expelled froth the Institu tion, and the Government had recesntnended, , on • account of several circumstanoes, that lie. should he . restored. This was accordingly done, 1 u 1 the teaChers of the Institution had 'at the same time • declared to that person that he should never receive priest's orders • .frorn . theen.. This spewed the slight influence which Gm - eminent enjoyed. * • • CoIonet:MAVIIIEW supported the amendment wide great warmth. He. had been at Maynooth-tiot ' more than ten day; • ago, and could jay, that - the •• 1 . buildings now - standing were in . such an unfinished state; that they would, fall, if an addition 'was not made .to the grant. He contended, that if the system pursued by the Chancellor of the Exchequer; who had constituted himself the Defender General of the Pro testant Faith, was followed up, the safety of Ireland coold not be answered for. The EMeerer Napoleon , had offered to re-establish all , the beau: for the edu cation of Irish Priests in France that existed. before the revolution ; but the heads of the Catholic Clergy. in Ireland had refused to avail themselves of this • offer, and this.patriotism was entitled to some return. Indeedshe had heard that the majority of the present Ministers were inclined to accede to - the continuance of last year's . giant, but that th* wishes were over by that overpowering jar 'nee. behind the Throne, which - was paramount to Ministers diem selves. He had heard that Ministers were obliged, on this - occasion, to go to St. James's in a body, where they were closeted for an hour with a certain Royal Duke, who was Chancellor of the College of Dublin, and yet seemed . hostile to the diffusion of knowledge, and that in conrequence of this, they found themtelves obliged to propose' the diminution of the grant. (This speech, especially the latter part of it s excited cries of hear, hear !) Mr. WILLIAMS WYNN regretted exceed, ingly the prevalence of that power, greater than the Cabinet, which had already produced the rejection qfithe Reversion Bill, and which was likely to deny The. former grant to the Catholics in Ireland. He deprecated the present grant,' which, he wasconvince4 would only.have the effect of holding up the present AchninistratiOn as the friends of religious bigotry, and as hostile to the religion of the great body of the peo ple of Ireland.; The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,..that.no „man had a rntire rooted aversion to any thing like intolerance than he had, though he cer tainly ‘Vra* one of those who were alive to the feelings of preference of one form of religion tq another ; and certainly-it could tiot with any justice be said, - that theproviding of a certain sum for the education 'of priests who did not belong to the established 'Church,—was any proof of intolerance towards those dissenters from the establishment, but rather the con . trary. Those, therefore, who excited. such a cry about intolerance, raised it upon a false foundation, and he would ask them.to look back into the history of past times, and see whether intolerance had not assumed a very different aspect from the measure which was now proposed?"; It had been repeatedly stated this night, that this measure was not the wish of Ministers, but that they' had received their lesson ! on - the subject from a Prince of the. Blood Royal.— Now, upon the word andJumour of a man, he would state, that neither he, nor as far as he knek, any one of his Majesty's. Ministers had anted under any such influence. He utterly denied the assertion. LOrd H. PETTY replied with great force and ani. maim. The grant, he . observed, was trifling in it self, but most important when viewed with regard to the policy by which it was dictated, and the view which would be coati:tined of it by the Catholics L. t• 4 , kf V a a . • - I I I 4• 11 . I ' . r • 111 H 4 NI " :all PPO f!. 4 K :4C