Star. — London, England, 1803-04-29 00:00:00

were it othertiife, it would be abturd to rappore that in the:face of all Europe Bonaparte would zfreet The language he made ufe of was of a pacific and conciliatory tendency, for were Bonaparte hallily (lit - poled, it would have been more to his purpote to have inflamed and irritated the minds of the French people for what might have been rcprcfented as bad faith and a breach of treaty. Taking, then, Egypt and the Cape nut of the queftion, there re mains no objed of difc ninon left, except the Ifland of Malta. In this alto I find myfelf obliged to re fer' to the foreign documents already retorted to. From thefe we learn, that in confequence of tome former difficulties or differences refpeeting the elec tier of a Grand blafter of the Maltefe Order, it was agreed, on the fuggeftion of England, that the above thould he referred to the Pope. With regard to the guaranteeing Powers, and their Fro ceedinge, our Minillers have left us in the dark ; but from the correfrondence lately publifhed be tween M. de Buzy, Knitter Plenipotentiary horn the Grand Mailer, and Mr. Alexander Ball, the Englith Governor, we find that the guaranteeing powers have declined to interfere or undertake the charge ; but, it can hardly be contended, that England is on that account authorized to retain the Mends, according to the terms of the treaty, which did make the furrender conditional, and only Ilipulated that the power there named fhnuld be invited to guaranty the independence of the place, and the maintenance of the order. I again repeat, that I have no intention whatever by this motion, to extra& prematurely from his Majefty's Minifters, the fubjeet of any fublifling ditcuffions, on which they may with to be filent for the prefent, and therefore confine myfelf entirely to the reten• tion of the Cape of Good Hope ; in demanding an explanation upon which I think myfelf juftified by all the circumflances which have hitherto come to our knowledge. In the firli place,it has been teen that his Majtfty's Minifters fent orders to furrender it; they afterwards tent orders to retain it; and 14 days fubfequently, in a fit of weaknefs, thought proper to countermand them. It is underftood, that in zo hours after the orders were given for the retention, which having been done by recapture, may be conftrued into an adt of holliiity,therecame that !near from his Majefty which has arise kept the nation in a Rate of anxiety, and it is therefore material to know, by a comparifon of dates, what stonnetlion there was bets/ ecn them." His Lordship then moved, fa That these be laid before the flask espies of all the or ders fiat out for the formatter of the tape of Geed Hope, in virtue of the Deflaithe Tracy at Amiens ; ago, of all the orders fart for Its retention; s 0 earrefpandenee with and from the Olken Owned, rehiring to it ; and aro, of all difeutluni, If any. on that fobjedt between his 114s)eity's *flamers and the French Republic, together with their refpcttive dotes." There objeffs were all included in cafe Motion. The Ctf•eceaart of the EICHIQpiII raid, he could not but think there was a ftrange inconfift ency between the argument tiled by the Noble Lord at the beginning of his fpeech, and the motiestl by which he had concluded it. The Noble Lord I had declared in his outlet, that he did not with to prefs Minifters on any heads which related to the I difcuffions now carrying on between the two coun tries, and by his motion he had moved for what he himfelf had declared, towards the end of his fpeech, was the only point that could be in difcuf lion. He had entertained great hopes that, at the preterit moment, and under the prefent -eircum. dances, every man would have abflained from bringing forward any fpecific 'notion, or at hail that no motion of this kind would have been Cub• muted to the Ilnufe, efpecially as a general mo tion, which would comprehend the whole of what was wiffied to be attained by the prefent, was fixed to come on fo early as Tuef4ay next. The prefent, he Paid, was undoubtedly a point on which the' fulleft information rruyi be given by hit Majefty's Minifters, and nothing would afford them more fincere fatisfaelital than to give it in the moll ample manner, whenever it could be done without mili tating againft the effential interefts of the country, liv difclotino that which, in the prefent pollute of affairs, ough t v to be kept fecret. But even if his Majefty's Minifters were not defirous to give this information, he was fure the Houle would require its and therefore he could have no other reatai for a:tithing to withhold it, than that which he had kill a'l'igned. After fuch a declaration, he could not conliftently negative the motion, and it was equal ly impolhible for him to accede to it. Indeed, worded as it now was, he thought it a motion that could not he entertained at an time. He fhould, therefore. prnpofe to get rid o bit by moving either •;‘ the previous quedion," or 6 , that the Orders of the Day be read," and concluded with the latter. Mr. Wm:were allured the Houle, he flould trouble thefts but very (hardy. He wilhed only to fay a few words, in order to thew that his No ble Friend, in making this motion, was not liable to the charge of that intonfl &new which had been attributed to him by the Right Hon. Gentleman who had jolt fat down. His Noble Friend had declared, that if the motion thould be sinclerftood by his Majelly's Knitters to interfere with the dikullions now pending between the two countries, on their declaring that to he the cafe, he would withdraw it. He could not fee by any means how the prefent motion could interfere with the papers intended to he called for by the Hon. Gentleman, *link motion is to he brought forward on Tuelday next. His Made Friend thinks, the papers moved for cannot interfere with the prefent difcifilions ; if fo, and if they relate to matters which will ne rieffarily come before the Honk on that Hon. Gentleman's motion, it was an argument rather in favour of their prndnetion than agaiiilt it, and clearly acquitted his Noble Friend of that incon- Ag e ncy with which he had been charged. It now iPpeared, Ilisseever, on the authority of thole who mull he allne•ed the belt knowledge of the cafe, that the dif.lesfure of thefe papers will have an effcB upon the prefent difcnffion. He was lorry for it; Ireeanfe he was apprehenfive it a-mild be the means of continuing, for a ?Midi longer time, that Pate of darknefs, uncertainty, and anxiety, in which we had already ton long been. Lord nevem ss he was not prefent at the WIC part of the Noble *Lord's foe .ch. and therefore lie cottid not fay any thing relating to it; OSt he renaioly - bad a very great objearon to Z:e motion as it was now worded. He tmderftood, however, that the Noble Lord had proceffect that he fhosld not wills to prefs for any informations the dirclofore of which might embarrafs the ',relent Negotiation, and yet the end of his motion went to ant for papers relative to the dircullion now pending. He had entertained hopes that no de tached motions of this kind would, under the pre fent Rate of affors, have been brought forward.— He frankly conteged that the Houle and the coun try had the moll undoubted right to expel infor mation on the very important points which have lb long been the ()Netts of difeullion between the two conntries. No perfons whatever, in the whole country, could be more defirnus to give this infor mation than his Majefly's prefent Minifters k and, it would give them the fincerell fatisf#fion to do lb, whenever they could accomplilh it, Without in juring the molt important interefts of the country: but whenever this was done, it mull, in order to he ell - canal, be given on general grounds, and not on detached points ; and he fhould therefore think the bell mode was, that which would bring the i whole fubjefl entire before the Houle ; and then, if filch Ihould not be deemed fatisfaelory, the Horsfe would know how to alk for what they deemed to be infutficient. He had only one word to fay, in anlster to what had fallen from a Right Hon. Gen tleman oppofite to him, as to what had been laid by his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer. His Right Hon. Friend did not fay that this motion would he prejudicial to the Nation, but he underilood him to fay that it might lead to a dilcuflion that in all probability would be pro dutlive of great inconvenience. Lord FOLKSTON& begged leave to fay a few words, by way of exculpating himfelf from the charge of ineonfitteney, which had been alledged againa him. The difpatches he had called for in his motion were thole fent nut in Oflober and he did not underßand how chafe could interfere with the prefent negotiation. The Noble Lord oppo fite to him had laid, that he did not like detached motions, when there is one of a general nature pending. He was of a contrary opinion, for by means of a general motion any Member May, ac cording to the Noble Lord's do&rine, preclude another from taking op the fame fubjeft in a de tacked point of view, and by poßponing ?le general motion, prevent the fubjed from coming before the Houle for a length of time. This was, he thought, owing to the introduainn of notices of motions, which he thought irregular, and produc tive of many inconveniences. Mr. Fox laid, be thought it neceffary to obferre, that the Noble Lord who had brought forward the prefent motion, was not deficient either in candour or fairnefs; at the fame time, he could not agree in the propriety of his motion. He would fhortly Rate his realons for fupporting the motion for the Order of the Day. No one, he believed, could doubt, but that the queßion now the fubjeo of debate, ought to be fully examined ; but was it fit that it fhould be examined on the prefent day ? A motion was intended to be made next Tsaefday, on the State of the Nation. If the Houle on that day fhould agree to enter into an enquiry on the State ache Nation, the queßion now brought for ward would very properly form a part of that enquiry. Therefore, when it was propofed to enter into a general qoeffion on the whole of the eondua of the King's Minifters, he would put it to the Noble Lord, whether it would not be better to take the general quetlion firff, and the particular queflion after ? He, for one, certainly thought it would be better to let the motion which Rood for Tuefday be &II brought forward. For that was a preliminary queftion, which the Houle olght to enter upon before it went into particular details ; and if it (hould be the opinion of the Houle, that it was not fit to enter into that general quellion, it mull follow, that it would not be fit to enter into the details that formed a part of it. And if the general queflion fhould be examined, the Noble Lord's motion would very properly come forward after it: and he writhed it might afterwards be brought forward, beeaufe it always was his opinion, that the Houle ought not to be timid in calling for information from chore who had the management of the affairs of the country in their hands. Mr. MARTIN (of Tewitelbury) obferved, that ever fence the prefent Chancellor of the Exchequer came into power, he had attended part'cularly to his conduet, and thought it but juftice to fay, that he highly approved of it. He confidered him as having uniformly silted with integrity, and with the bell intentions of promoting the intereß of his Country. He had often heard a great deal raid in that Houle about the refpontibility of Minitlers, not only by Members in Oppolition, but by Mini. tiers themielves ; yet, after all he had heard, he never found any good effeet produced from the ar guments advanced on the fubjed ; and as to the refponfibility by which Minitierk were Paid to be held, he would not give two-pence for it. The queßion was then called for, and the mo tion for the Order of the Day was, agreed tn, and of courfe Lord For stew I's motion negatived. PAST INDIA AFFAllti I.nrd CAITLIIIAGN moved for an account of all the Goods fold at the Eaft India Company's Sales, from March 1802 to March a 803 t and alto for an account of the Amount of the Company's Stock, exclutive of their Capital, within the fame period. The motion was agreed to, and the accounts af terwards brought to the Bar by Mr. Owen from the India Honk. LOVACASTLIRIAC n,inaCommittee of the whole II Aire, role. purfuant to the notice he gave on feefday, to move for Leave to bring in a Bill to enable the Eal India Company to defray the Eapences of raifing three Bittalions of Volun. teers. By a former AO, the Company had railed two battalions, together with artillery ; it was now propofed that they Ihould have three battalions, without any artillery. The whole of tnefe were to confill of perfnns in the ferviee of the Eaft India Company. The nffi ce rs were to be taken from among th.)fe who held the higher fituations under the Company ; and the men were to be the fame per. inns who were r.ow confidentially employed in the ! Company's wareh...tfes. Nothing could he better Icalculated to anfwer the porpoks intended, than this force. His I.nettihtp then concluded, by Making-Itis motion, tviiielt was agreed to, atkcidie report Waif ordered to be received to-morrow, Mr. Poi preferred a Petitlßlt from the Mayor, Aldermen, ate. of Nottingham nand th e Bill for regulating debase et • that place.—Referred to the Committee Mr. Vawat prefented a Petition, praying relief from the operation of the trim Li* Courts Bia•—Referrat to the Committee on the Bill. A porton from the India Houfe tirrfattect certain Accounts, conformably to the 33d of the King and the Order of that Holift--Orderad to be printed. COROItERS' On a motion being made for fixing on a cer tain day for bringing up the Report of the Coro ners' Bill, tome oppofition was made to it ; and the Houfe was proceeding to a diva - ion, when there not being 4o Members prefent, an adjonin ment took place. LONDON. PRIbAY, APRIL 29. PRICP. OP STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK s 3 Per Cent. Reduced 644 3 per C. Calf. money, DJ+ , i l i—sfor ace. 651. New 5 per Cent. nyii—Old ditto too}} PRICE OF S POCKS YESTERDAY: Ban Stock 170 171 .5 Per CcoL ' 797.991 991 3 per Cent. Red. 64H1 Lon Ann. 19 3-16 3 per C. Conf. 631 65i India Stoct ar:7 at:int News q per Cent. Bs} Rifts 5 per Celll4. syst 5 per CL Ann. aoot Conf. for May, 66 65411 66F Though the Monittur continues filent on the filbjed of the Negociation, the Englifh Paper, printed in Paris, Rates, " on the authority of per fims of high confideration," that all the difficul ties in the way of adjoftment are on the eve of being completely removed. To this we may add, that difpatches were yellerday received by the French Ambalador, which are tinderflood to have brought informatioa that orders had been ailed by the French Government for the immediate pay ment of the firft inftalment of the debt due to Great Britain for the maintenance of the French prifoners dining the war. This circumflance; flould it prove correet, would be of great im portance, as manifefting a defire on the part of the Confular Government to fulfil its engagements. On the other hand, we find in a Paper of this morning, which alto eats at leaft to (peak on the authority of perfons of high confideration," the following paragraphs, which, ?they tuft on au thority, may be confideted as decifive of the quef. tion of " Peace or War ?" We are not at all fbrprized at the impatience of the Public for a definitive anfwet from France. The Ragnation of Trade—the general want of Confidence—and the evils which arife from the Rate of Uncertainty in which cireumßances have placed us, mutt be admitted to be aloft etnbarraf fmg ; while, at the fame time, it is well known, how difficult, upon many occaGons, it is to obtain an siteseanais. We have reafon to believe, how. ever, that Minifters are determined to bring the matterto a point, and we than have to announce to our Readers, wry/wily, the relish of the Ne gotiation. " In the correfpondence between Sir Ataxannea Batt. and M. Ds Buts , (or, as the French will have it, Signior Bust), the only reafon Rated for refuting to deliver up the Wand of Malta is, be cattle certain Powers, who had i been invited by the Loth Article of the Treaty of Amiens to guarantee the Independence of the Wand, had not agreed to that mature. We had occaGon before to remark on this fubjea. It is not alone the refufal of ter tain Powers to guarantee that independence, nor the abolition of certain Lampe: fince the Signature of the Treaty of Amiens, but the views and preidl: of the Feiss. Cow su t, demonarated fince that pe riod, which render its retention neeefary on the part of the Britilh Empire. That degree of Inde pendence which, with a pacific fpirit in the Flare Con s u t., would have been complete fecurity, and all that the Treaty of Amiens aimed at, is no recta. rity at all with the hoßile projefts which have been but too plainly manifeßed ; and the quellion is, Shall we give up Malta with lefs fecurity than we Ripulated for when Boa•PARTI promifed us peace, now that he threatens us with war ?—and with war, to the fuccefs of which, on his part, the pof lemon of that ifland would moll efentially contri bute? From the moment we read SIIIIASTIANI'SRe port en 414 we were convinced that his Majef ty's Minitlers could not give tip Malta without receiving force ample fecurity in lieu of that polTef lion. We have made thefe animadvertions, becanfe, though we do not affe& to Rate the whole cafe of Minifiers upon this fiihjelt, we do not like to fee thisimportant point narrowed to the mere queflion of Grannnery. Of one thing, however, we are cer tain, that the point in difpute has been carried to that length, that nothing but the diftina acknow. ledgment of our right to keep Malta, will, under all the circumßances, fatisfy his Majeßy's Mini• Ilers—as we are convinced nothing fhort of fuch a concelLon will fatisfy the Public. " Whatever may be the iffue of the prefent Ne gotiation with France, a flrung Adminiftration will be neceffary for our fecurity. Upon this point w . are unwilling again to advert to a tranfaltion, the refult of which has filled us, as it has every friend to the intereas of the country, with regret. What we have already Rated upon it may be relied upon. Mr. AMOINGTOII, we believe, wiled for the aced . - lion of Mr. Pirr and frme of his friends to the Government, and would willingly have relinquilk •ed his office to the attainment deo great an object When Mr. Pirr was applied' to by Mr. ADDING: roU upon this point, the former repfied (aernight be ciliated) that he could entertain no propofi tiorrupon this fubjeft,, unlefs His Marrs TY'S wifhes were diflindly fignified to him. He added alto, 'that in filch a cafe he fhould feet it necefrary to pro. pole an Adminiftration upon a large and extended plan. Here the whole tranfaCtion ended. Whether in the cootie of it any difinclination was exprefrect on the part of the prefent Minifters to ad with Lord GI anvil LTA, or any of his party, or whether that party expreffed a fimitar difinclination to a n with the prefent Minillers, we have not been accu. rarely informed, nor indeed does it appear need: fart' to inquire. In whatever way the prefent ne goeiation with France ends, the country will na turally look to a fitting adminiaration. becaufe experience has taught us that we have only diffi. tufty to expeft. It is hardly necerary for us to fay, that among the prefent Miuillers there are Tome whom we moll highly refped—in whore ta. tents and whole charafters we have peat confi. dente but thefe are times in which every depart ment lhould be filled with the able( men in the country. We have already expreffed our difap. pointment and regret, iir obferving the conduCt of the Naval Department, and when we look round, much as we refped tome of his Majeßy's Mini.. &re, we mull own, that unlefs Come changes take place, our ht / - rogolation will r 0 is the faint hope of from peace." I I'o the above extract we may add, that the news which we communicated yefterday from the French Papers rend alfo to damp the hopes of peace, in as much as they Phew that the Four Cow s I. of France (till cherifhes the fame hopes and views which prompted his expedition to Egypt. Nothing leis than a whole divilion of (hips of war, was. it teems, equal to the importance of conveying an Ambafiador with his train, from the Confular Court to Conflantinople. Did the bulk of General Bauses equipage and the numbers of Ms attendants labially demand flag a pomp of conveyance ? was it not intended to imprefs an idea of unequalled magnificence as neceffarily in veiling every reprefentation cif the perfun of the FIRST CONSUL ? Was it not fent to lead a parade of naval triumph in leas in which tho navy of Re publican France V"as before known but by defeat .and difgrace? Did not Ls stemmas go to convince the inhabitants of the Levant, that. even after the defirtation of the day of Aboukir—that, thougi Alexandria fell unrelieved—France had Rill a fleet? Was it not, among other things, one object of 'his expedition, fent out fo critically at the moment when the Englifh were to leave Alexandria, toper. tirade at leaß the more ignorant part of the People of the Levant, that the Englifh retired in terror before the approach of the French ; and even to in. finuate to the Turkifh Government, that if the Englifh would not of their awn will depart; here was a French force in readinefs to drive them away ? Had the objeds of the expedition been others than we fuppofe, there could have been no wife reafon why Less:swims fliould haye, before his return. vifited the ports of Syria and Egypt. Commet cial Commitiaries is, it kerns, the new name for thole political and military fpies who were emplot ed without offenfible name, though in great num• hers, and on miGlons into every foreign country. under the old Government of France ! is not every one of thole Commiffaries in conftant pri vate correfpondence with the Ftarr Cosisnx him. Pelf, not merely on the commercial, bat upon the political and military affairs of the countries into which they are refpedively fent ? Do not there Commercial Coramiaries for the Levant go tp fulfil the pmrnifes, to renew the intrigues, to follow our the views of the illußrious COL SIa&STIANI ? Have they not his journal, as a chart to guide them in their intrigues with the Chiefs of the EaR. and in the Afiatic flatteries which they are to con. vey home to the Friss. Consul's ear? And then. what confequence rand not every one of thefe Gentlemen acquire in the eyes of the people of the EaR, inftalled as he is with all die pomp of an, Ambaliador. and by the very fleet rhichlgive portance to General Saone at Conßantinople At St. John D'Acre,—at Alexandria,—it is, we may be Pure, quite impoffible. but the appearance of Le ss ion rs, with his fquadron and his Corn , mitioie•—their appearance as the humble( Mini ' tiers of the will of the moll risognimoiroser and pr , ...1 'infant Bow AAAAA have utterly extingnilh , ed all remembrance of the affair of Jaffa —of the repulfe from the ruins of D'Acre—o( the glorious Xs asas-like efcape from Aboukir! MAILS. This day a mail arrived from Holland, and two from Hamburgh. IN IN ARABIA. For a long wit:le the affairs of the Porte, as if (deed by 'the unprovoked attack made by the French apart Egypt, and by the operations of nut brave countrymen in forcing the invaders to aban• Jon their clog/ten, occupied much of the attention of Europe. The good faith of Great Britain ip evacuating that country, bat bardithad time se be