Star. — London, England, 1814-09-03 00:00:00

PARIS PAPERS. CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES. SITTING OF THE 29TH AUGUST. The Budget was the order of the day. M. DESORAVES ascended the tribune. He first 'Stierved, thai he should express hihtself with that simplicity which gives weigltt to demonstration, and that be should principally, remark on that part of the Law lrojet which relates to the creation of the abli. ,attons ,of the treatory.4o,nds. He was influenced by. duty and .love ofitreth to contend against this measuve,• although the'Minister attached such a vir. tue to his plan, as induced him to say, 4 4 Do not attack a. single cipiter,.nOr a point of this system ; far its dit ', *ferent parts .are so combined that they can only be considered together and as a whole." . The Wputy, however, supposed that he might be permitted to discuss this plan, the effects of which wete of such high importance to the State. He en ...treated the nation to maintain concord, and to con fide in its Representatives. He who spoke of economy under the lateGoverrtment, was marked as a factious man (an frandeur). But the return of order and justice now rermits us to promulgate with freedom wise and useful opinions. M. Desgraves thought that the means proposed - to clisaharge the debt were merely delusive: He did not conceive that an interest of 8 per cent. could be attached to bonds issued at a time when the public interest wits.et a much lower amount ; and the - report of the Ceitral Commission, which bad defended the. am-tut oftbrat interest, had not altered his opinion. It is pretended that the formation of an interest so advantagiOns or the Creditors of the State will draw foreign capital into Fumes. but do you suppose that the Capitalistiare dupes ? They will indeed come,' , put it siil be to extort from you 30 or 40 per cent. and to co operate in the ruin of the State. ur debt of 5 per cent. consols is not out of prroa portion to the public wealth. By consolidating in the same manner the new • debt, you will avoid a ruinous system; The Deputy then discussed the objections spade to the inscription of the creditors on the great book.— Toat measure would satisfy the creditors : but in gifong the bonds on the Treasury, bearing 8 per cent. interest, Ton would legalize the usury proscribed by the lair. Who is to respect the law if the Go. lt does ni,t ? vcrimem. - • It is proposed that you should attempt experi ments, as it we were ignorant of the danger of un tried systems. The Minister and friend of Henry IV. Ate wise, the economical Sully, knew nothing of these rising and lower i ng games. He said frankly to a' Kng . worthy of heating him- 6, We owe such sung; it is -necessary to pay them : we shall next consider of the means of establishing order and eco. airily: of augmenting our receipts, and diminishing our expenses." . • • . Eight per tent, interest will increase your debt to the extent' of 173 millions. Extraordinary means are proposed to you, such as the sale of the woods and property of the Communes, in order to discharge it. Sitbst:tute inscriptions for bonds, and all ob stacles will be removed. At all events, M. Desgraves wished that a corn • pcy.tnt authority should watch over the operations of lyrinisters relative to extinguishing the debt. This ro.:2,nrity was to be found in the Chamber of Ac counts, t.%thicti waicompoied.of upright and enlighten ed men ; but it was necessary that a law should ex. teed their privileges on this head. To save at once the interests of. the Creditors of the State and the national honour, is doubtless the siocere intention of the Chamber, and on that ground we .cannot adopt a project which would . shake public credit to its foundation; 'on that ground a paper system, the precursor of a disastrous loan, Ought to b< rejected. If you give your assent to such a system you will experience the fate a those Statesmen who, wishing !et be 'Jost to excess, come at last to be very midst,' and are lost an vague speculations. Deputy sew, with uneasiness, that according, to the Minister's plan,,all the public wealth would be placed in bis hands; and that he might dispose of it ac his pleasure. No responsibility could counteract 11e evil elEicti of such a power. Besides, the Minister is deceived in su pp osin g that' be can regul:ue the course of the public funds. Si. polar experiments have been made, and uniformly failed. Public opinion is, the despotic regulator of their price; and who would not be afffeted to see monopoly and stock-jobbiog exercised by the Go vernment 1 It may be said to:you that England is rich by her industry, her commerce. her navy, and that her pro. spent) , depends on her credit. Without doubt : but whence proceeds thii credit ? Solely train the pa uimisro of her inhabitants. Destroy selfi.bness, inspire the breasts of French , tines with pubic virtues—these are the surest founda tions of confidence and credit. M. Desgraves here drew a parallel between the system of Inscription and that of Treasury Bonds.= He gave by far the preference to the former. If you have any regard for the country. added he, reject a' plan ot ,finauces, which.has only a false appearance of justice add good faith. The King, whose good disposition only needs to be enlighteded, would be in- Consolable for the bad effects which would result:there from, lie afterwards proposed same amendments, the basis of v.hich was—lnscription in the great book of the floating debt in arrear, the verification of the Ddinistar's Ordonnances relative to this object by the Chamber of Accounts, and the sale of 300,000 hec tares of.for:sts, sod, and sopei aces, to answer the. payments . . He proposed also that the budget-should be AlintiAlly prsented to the Chamber. M. I).igraves' speech WAS ordered to be printed. hl. PETIT DE BEAL:VERGER spoke in favour of the projet iof the law. •Unseduced by the simplicity of the operation of converting the debt into annuities, he contended, that such a plan would be as unjust in it-i 'elf as langerous in its consequences. The plan of the Miiiister, on the contrary, involved much less in convenience, and it had the gr adiantage of a snore p t ompt execution. It woMead in much sus, time to the extinction of the debt, it advantage which, be consideted o f great itnjuttan4e; it would also basic veil favourable influence soth in the trans actions of Individjsals and in the sale of national pro sty.,. He wu of opinion that the alienation of three puudred thousand hectares of forest could not receipt 1111‘ I ljt mere gitable.deshatiott *halt the extfustios of the debt. M. DE PRUDIELB (Deputy from Finiaterre) was hos ts. Ole to the plan of 'Oiling the forests, :end aocreaeiog the interest to eight per cent. ~He proposed.hat the interest should be fixed a, five per cent ► and that five interest should be fixed a, five per ceut ad that five er cent. upon the amount of thedebt, sho‘ild be . ..ap.. propriated for the gradual e xtinction of thi debt, glut that chance 'should decide every six' or thine nilinthi 'which of the creditors should'be paid off. Aeciird: 'ing to a table of this operation, it would be found, that in the course of fourteen years and slew motobi,, by the mere sacrifice of ten per cent. per annum, the whole debt would be extinguished. If two per cent. spore, ere added, the extinction of the debt would be effected in eleven years and a few days. if fifteen Per cent. the debt would be extinguished in eight years aod a few months. This Plan would xequiro no extraordinary resources, and would involve the in -1 estimable advantagitif preserving the forests. This speech was ordered to be printed. M. RIBOUD regretted that the Budget, which seem ed to him to contain three very distinct divisions, had not been divided into thre t eprojets of laws, and pre. 'maned separately to the Chamber; ,for their union would embarrass the assent which might have been given to each, of them individually. The. former Legislative Bticly frequently experienced , the incon.; ventence of this complication, which at once forced, E land checked their votes.—Wiis regard to the gene► ralquestion, he was of opinion that the creation of a• new paper, and the sale of valuable domains, were ,ilait indispensible measures. But the article, the pro jet, which he considered as lia'ble to the greatest ob jection, was, the alienation of 300,000 hectares of woods belonging to the State. He argued against the alienation, chiefly upon the fact that these woods. must inevitably pass into the possession of private in dividdals, and that it was only the State and great Corporations that could safely be entrusted with those precious possessions. He thought the consolidation 'of the revenue a measure much kss dangerous : 25 millions, according to his estimate. would be sufficient. He conjured the Chamber, in the dame of the public good, to abandon a plan which would rob France of many essential means of defence, and which could only favour the policy of foreigners ; for, added he, the woods that you would alienate do not belong to you, but to the country. He concluded by voting for the adoption of the projet, but with numerous amendments. . ~, This speech was ordered to be printed. M. LETURIER Da r.a MARTEL deprecated any thing which might tend to excite new 'doubts respecting the projet which was then before them. He thought, on the contrary, that all objections should be studi cusly avoided which bore upon the general object of the projet i and that they should grant to moderation and equity that. which other Governments, not like thi Government of France, hereditary, would impe rioosly demand. After vain efforts to acquire. a colos sal preponderance, to which Paovioans. .had not destined them, they now reposed in the Anna of a fa ther, held forth to receive them; like prgigal child diem In return for the tenderness which he s'iewed them, he only required that they would restore order to th'.ir finances. Hedithinded of the Representa tives of a loyal and generoutnatilin, that which each of them would blush not Iciperi9iS,i: he demanded, that they should pay their deb's, and his Ministers suggested to them the means. ~ The orator then made an analysis of the account's. acre by presented, and of the means of discharging the nec.:s. ty debt. 11c noticed tie threatened ruin of Franck.. by the dlsor.!er of. the finances at various periods of her htgory, and concluded by the adorti-n of the third title of the projet. He afterwards adverted to the ifittptality in the personal and movable contribution. The five De partments of Normandy paid` 056.,875 fr. while the five Departments of Brttanny paid 2,“1,320 franks. Out of the 333,255,809 fr. r isf;cl by various taxes upon movables and personals, upon, whidows, doors, and the free Departments, Normandy contributed 37,100,181 fr. The speedy amendment of this irre. gulatity was recommended, and referred to the State of the Departments of the North and Lower Seine. where there was an immense disparity in the poptsial, Lion, yet the smaller number of persons contra:kited) the Luger sum. The orator proposed, in conclusion, the rejection of the 14th and 15th articles, as unconstitutional and dangerous.. The speech of M. Martel was . 'ordered to be printed. M. LADDER DE POMFIERES objected to various parts of the projet. He disapproved of the latitude given to the Ministers in the disposal of the public Monies ; for .this reason, he wished the Ist, 2d, and 3d Ar ticles to be rejected. It was unconstitutional to give the Ministers power to raise an impost of centimes for extraordinary occasions. He was sorry to find nothing respecting the arrears in the Report of the Committee. It amounted to 13,187,309 fr. He, examined the state of the accounts of various Minis• ters, seriatim, comparing them together. It is impos sible to enumerate all the objections made by the ora• to to the means suggested for raising the supply ; but he prognosticated the rene w al of many of the in coovzotenctes formerly found to result from such sys tems. He concluded by proposing amendments to the projet, to the number of seven, referring principally to tile s centimes, and the mode of liquidating the ar rearts.--tt was ordered, that the foregoing speech should be printed, and the sitting was terminated. PARIS, AUGUSTee. By an Ordonnanee of the King, of the 18th Au gust, 1814, his Majesty has granted Letters of Nobi fit!, to M.M. Jean Baptiste Couchery, Deputy to the Council of Five Hundred in 1795 ; Gaspard Lemerer, do. ; J, P. Andre, do. t L. Borne, do.; Camille Jor dan, do. in 1796; J. B. Leblanc, Mayor of Viuy le Francais. We arc assured that the pqmentsof direct contri butions atone amounted to thirty-two millions (about 41,300,003) in the month of July. This is the strongest roof of the confidence of the French in the paternal government of Lewis le Desire, and in the excellence of measures adopted by Goverment for the prosperity of the State. The Chamber of Deputies decreed, in a secretait- Ling, the day before yesterday, the amount of the Civil List, The Chamber voted unartimously 25 millions foy the King three milliom pr d oil) a ins; and. eight milliOni for the Princes, to be ,distnboted according to hisfieasure, The expences of the Military House' hold we not efaitiristd in theie three sums. - ... ' • 4MBItIeM 4 I PAPERS. -441A1, JULY IC. 1 . , . 111(1.Apil.PHi. IPROM THE NEW-WIRE. MERCANTILE ADVERTISER. We have it from good authority that the offer is nsade of money . at twe nty for a great part of the fifteen nlillion o ut tke five millions loan not dis piesesd of. NEW-YORK, JULY 12. ',street if a teiter from a Gentleman in this city, , • dated Sackett's Harbour, July 5: 1 i a With pleasure 1 inform you of a small expedition (fitted out from this place on the 27th ultimo, arid rimmed this day), of two armed boats. carrying 15 mien each, which succeeded in burning a bomb ves sel of 90 tons, on the stocks.and ready for launching; together with a public building, containing naval stores, at a place called Presque Isle, directlroppo site Oswego, on the Canadian frontier." PHILADELPHIA, JULY 15. • BRITISH REINFORCEMENTII.-A letter ,from a respect able Gentleman, in Watertown, (Jefferson County) under date of the 3d instant, says, that four hundred and fifty boats, &c. laden with sailors, soldiers, and . munition of war, have gone up the Si. Lawrence within a few days past. The same letter states, that Cbauncey's fleet was expected to sailfrom Sackett's .Harbour from the 4th to the 10th intact. .. . BURLINGTON, JUNE 21. .J.. The army - at Flensburg has' moved north as far as Cbasey. Major Forsyth, with 60 men, engaged the enemy's advanced picquet of about 200 men. Our toss was three killed and five wounded ; that of the enemy is not kno * vim •• WASHINGTON, JULY 1. In pursuance of orders from the War Department, issued in consequence of the retreat of the enemy from the Waters of the Patuxent, the Volunteers of this district set out on their return on Wednesday evening. The cavalry arrived yesterday, and proceeded to the War Officg, where they were dismiued. TLS E EVENING STAR. LOIN DON. SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1814. PRICt OF s ttICKS 1 HIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK ReduckH 65-3 per Cent. Comols tanit—for sec. 6511., • per Ct. A9** -5 per Ct. Navy 9541}—lintult. its. pr. • Omnium 1 * dic—gank Long Asas.l4 10-16th4 • ltxchequer par to. Ss. pre. We have to-day received a Jamaica Mail, with let-. ters And papers from that Island to the 18th of July. They, state that PETION and Omni - mt have united their forces to repel any attempts to restore St. Do. sningo under the Government of 'the Mother Cosh= try. We doubt the authenticity of this intelligence, for similar articles have been long running through . the various Journals of Europe, all originating in an Am?rican Newspaper, which we have seen, and from which the Jamaica Papers have doubtless copied it. It suits the Americans and their partizans admirably to collect or fabricate every thing that can contribute to produce. uproar and confusion. South &Tunica appears to be alternately the prey of three parties, all of whom are more or less incited to insurrection by adventured from all countries. lAmong these, the Cit:zens of the United States are not 'the least .active, nor the least formidable they are certainty at the head,pf that faction which has prcith'ed the exphlslon of the English from various Settlements, as stated in the Jamaica Papers. • ' Our West : lndia trade not only suffers from North AmeriCan privateers, but various ports on the Spanish Main have dared to fit out creizers against the British flag. This formidable evil -will compel Great Bri tain to take an active part' in the disputes between the contending parties—those who have authorized the capture of British vessels have of course declared ' war, and will no doubt be chastised. KI'Ir'GSTCiN, JULY It. • His Majesty's ship Sapphire, of 18 guns, Captain Brown, from the Havannah, last . crelze,.anchored at Port Royal yesterday, with the schooner Mary, Turner, from this port to St. Domingo; with dry goods, captured on the 13th nit. by the American schooner privateer, Shark, under Carthagenian co lours, and ordered for any port in the United States she could enter, but re-captured some days afterwayd; by the Sapphire. His Majesty's ship North Star, of 18 guns, Cap- . tain Coe, and brigantine Decouverte, Lieutenant Williams, from Negril Bay, entered Port Royal yesterday. The schooner Flash, Finlayson, which sailed from Providence for this port, under the protection of the' Anaconda brig, but separated, antLwas sopposedto have been captured, arrived yesterday, with a cargo, of wine, fish, and lumber. After parting' from the Anaconda, she went into Harbour Island, (one of the Bahamas), and proceeded some days since from thence for her destination. Off Port Morant, a sus piiious vessel gave her chace, but she escaped from her and made for-Pots Antonio. The Annette sailed from Carthegeha tx • thi lit instant, and from Savanilla on the O. By her we learn, that great commotions prevailed in Carthagena, 4nd' that there are now three distinct parties; viz:--- the Royalists, the Independents, and a Third, who are endeavouring to bring about a counter.revolutiors tin consequence of which, all British subjects were dis. posed to embark for this island with their property. The Government of Carthagena had demanded of :the merchants of that place, a large loan, with if threat, that should they not comply within a • time. the same would be taken by force: . • The Spanish, sloop which was dispatched frOriettsis port tp S.ustahlartha, with accounts of the lair en. 6 000 events in Europe, has been unfortanately cap- tdred by the Cartbagenian privateer Pepa, and car, ried into Savanilla. The Palma frigate, Captain Worth, sailed from Carthageaa, for St. Thomas's, on the 28thfult. His Majesty's ship Argo, 0f . 44 guns, Captain Fo. thergiU, anchored off Carthagena, on the Ist inst. . A large Spanish schooner, a'; prize to one of the Carthagenian cruisers, was entering Cartbagena as the Annette was departing. So disagreeable was the news of thi late important • events in Europe to the Government of Carthagena, and » apprehensive were they of its opening the eyes of seen their adherents, char, when, spoken-of publiClrs the persons so oNnding ran the risk of being &pre. • . hended and imprisoned. • ` i • Whenla Felice sailed from Carthegina, every thing Was-quiet, but no teithstanding great apprehensionc • were entertained of of a ammotionsin that town not known: the motley form g overnment. it ' how long British subjects would be respected, er.d. every one at that place seemed desirous% get away ag fist as he could, with whatever valuables he possessed. FROM THIILINGSrON autoxicta, JtfLY is. We now learn th it Petion and Christophe •have *greed is Unite their forces, to'r e sist any' attempts that may be made b 7 France, to &mitt possession of ,:. St. Domingo. - , The Carthagenian pr i va teers have 'Web , been ' landing, on Old Providence, aad committing dem. dations on the ?roper'' , of the defencdess Inhabitants ; they also took some vessels which were at anchor at " that island. His Majesty's frigate Rota, of 36 guns, Captain SoMerville, and brig Young Emulous, Captain God frey, anchored at Port Royal esterdlty, , from a cruise. • The Emulous, Captain Godfrey, convoyed the ship Hope, brigs Commerce and Mary Ann, from St: Jago de Cuba to Negri), where they joined the home w.ud bound fleet. The Leviathan, with the fleets proceeded for Negri' on the 21 inst. His Majesty" brig Anaconda, Captain Westhall, sailed from Port Royal yesterday morning,on a cruise. Oa the Sth ult. the Alexandrine was Warded by • the Carthanenian privateer schooner Superior; tem• mended by one Campbell, who - not only plundered • the.Alexandrine, of' variousarticles, but ordered John • Arskine one of her crew, .1u be: seized upon and flogged, for refusing to-sermon - bond' the Stiperior. • We are informed Arskine is a native of L'crelsOol, • • and has iltely hien -Clietharggtcy:fstau 'hit Majesty's ' ship Leviathan'. • -After-ivhich Cardiahattete• the:. - Master of the Alexandrine a letter, iziwMeh stres,• " that he boarded t he brig conformably to hie duty, as Commander • oI a Cirthagsalintrutzer?—; His intention into keep i.good lost:out for the veldf sell from. jamika. .The•greater part olthe' Iteer's crew are said to beilritishl strtiects,• : " • On We 234 ult. of 134 "We' POW andrine fell in with the Americlitriettar of atikeleir ' aooner Hope, from PhiladelpNw:go' Slitelihna • Cuba, the crew of which vessels cocrictrum the lati* andrine A few spare sails. and a'hiretscrosnd thed pei.. • mitred her to proceed on her voyage' • Ca the Ist inst. the Ale drive pet de Cuba, to obtain a supply of water and pea/Wait Thirty passengers, of all ages and sews, cdn* itir the Felice. . • We understand that the North - -Scar Mjst-eloile4.l 20• guns, Captain Coe, .will accompany tire'packSS a certain latitude, and afterwards proceed to Control% The ship Irwin, Pemberton, which loaded at Sap vannada-Mar frr Liverrol, rut into Montego Bat on the 6th inst. leaky, The ship Willerby, Muller, arrived at Montego Bay, ow the 6th inst. from Falmouth. The ship James and Agnes, Rayside, and brig Mary, Robertson, have arrived at the Bay of Hone dares from this Island. The Herald post-sloop, of 20 guns, Capt. Milward o arrived at Carthagena, from this port, the Sth inst. The Arachne brig, of 18. guns, Captain Watson, " sailed from Campeachy the 30th May last, for 1 Vera Cruz. The cartel brig Perseverance, Captain Whitney, was appointed to sail from Philadelphia on th e Ist inst. !for Barbados% St. Bartholomew's, reedit island. . . .. ... . lir4 hay, ireived Paris Papers of Wednesday, and liolee euracmd. an account of the•eatertaiment given ir the .CylioTtfatis to.the .Royal• Nosily. . It was, Alf".might•te espetted; 'a' most . mignifieetit spectacle. The boiiii'iviref the:gala, ltiseuta geodePpitite being 'ore deilvtible thin a good cook. it CheracteriAic of that goridilumoured readt wit foe' Which he his beets :always .• s . distlhetiudited. '. .• •—'' . ' .. • . - .Isi the Chasnhc r of Piptieses; onTaesdat, nothing of much isisitertince ecturted.' • 'M. Dessiii.Aao de. weingised his projet for the law searing the inde - cebflh i e - Fraith Sudgei: •M. LAiriftiat Moved , . .thc arifer'Of the day;iitii*nd person SeConded his Mo. •I' • • xionir ala NI: titasotisites . was Ordered 't:o de printed And _tOicen into future ctinsideration.. l '' • ' The subject or the &Races was aiiin-ctieussed on :rueidaY I 'Monsititii, • puitliecifi SZ.niti:ev, Fake. caNya.l.l, and otheri; spoke. against' the Vete of in 'Wrest, ($ per cent.) as too high. The 'deVate was adjeskisedia a listure day: ' .• _ • •., 'l' Freea.Sfadsid we liiin that tranquillity does not teit'alifi Sisals. :An' ittieteiate hpitiii6 , .to Franca .figia iTd restlic*potsi . pervadii the great nikts of the Spa eiihicipiOlttti* ' This i as it should be. and what bus thel:MaCif topitrit betterlreittnient ? An I di M d~ T le i I 19 .