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Secretary's demand, in order to avenge themselves for 'the-interference of the House.--(.1 laugh.)—The Honourable Secretary had called himself an insigni. scant individual, which nobody else would rresume to do; he has, however, acted with great skill; he raw the day of voluntary contributions coming, and tie pri pared himself for it, by taking his indemnity before-hand. He feared a run upon the shop, and tforetoie collected together all that he could get. The S •cretary had said, that all who knew him would acquit him of any unworthy motk!es. He (Mr. Tier- i ney) would acquit him for £2OO, provided it was his right. As to tujielf, (sao Mr. Tierney), I keep my head above water at 'well* as 1 can, and should have no objection to 'rft2OP,)l' I had a claim to i., ;bough it would alwayite' a matter of taste or fetlipg whether I should claim it or not : but the Lord. of the Admiralty had acted from resentment ; they had agreed to stand by the Secretary, and make the House see what it was to fall out with them.- -(4 laugh).—lf the Lords of the Admiralty bad refused to comply with his demand, he supposed that the Honourable Gentleman would have told them to look tor another Secretary r but no, (says Mr. T.) don't think he would have gone so far as that. What must the poor Chancellor of the Exchequer think of these proceedings.? He was not nearly so well paid, and yet his labours deserved additional remunera tion quite as much as those of the Honourable Secretary : thy, the fatigues of issuing Exchequer Bills lately must have been qiiite as 'great as the fa tigues of the Algerine equipment— (A laugh).—Then the Lords of the Admiralty themselves, had only £l,OOO a-year each, though, to be sure, they made up in number what they wanted in weight. If he (Mr. Tierney) were to speak for hours longer, it would only be an unnecessary trespass on the time of the House. Those who believe the Honourable Se cretary had a vested tight should . vote against the Motion of the Noble Lurd ; but those who think that there was a discretionary power lodged in the Lords of the Admiralty, and that they were not bound to give to the uttermost penny, would find it impossible to vote for the proposition of his Noble Friend. No person, man, woman, or child, out of doors, could doubt that this transaction forfeited all' confi dence in the Lords of the Admiralty. He said this in their presence, as he should•not hi* the opporttr. nity of saying it long, because-theta:would soon he a division, and the Lind: of thrs:AdMitalty would then of course withdraw—Or larrti,:tladheari hear.) Lord CA.STLEREAGH said-he would trouble the House with a very few observations. He had, in common with the House, felt great satisfaction at the numerous jokes and pleasantries which the Right Hon. Gentleman had thrown over the subject; but at the same time he must say, that he had never be fore heard him labour so hard in argument. (41/eud lartrifrear the Opposition.) The Right Hon. Gentle. man had talked of the disgust which he felt at the conduct of the Board of Admiralty. He (the Noble Lord) would retest the expression, and say, this he himself felt the most unmeasured disgust to see that spirit of detraction abroad against all public men (100 from the Opitosition); above all, to see that readiness in Honourable Gentlemen to appeal to the unsound part of the people in order to depreciate and degrade the characters of public men. (Hear, and a laugh from the Opposition) How bad the Right Honourable Gentleman argued the present question Nothing could be more weak or unfair.—The conduct of the Loads of the Admiralty had been such as they were bound both in law and justice to pursue.. Lord Spencer's order of 1800 left them no. option—it was imperative—nor was any thing left to their discretion, except the bare fact whether there were peace or war. Could they.-could the House for a moment entertain that monstrous doctrine, to which nothing but utter desperation of all rea sonable argument could have driven the Right Ho nourable Gentleman—that it was within the discre tion of the Board of Admiralty to lessen, at their , pleasure s 'the salaries of the officers, civil or Military, of their establishment I—As well might it be con tended: that the Commander in Chief bad the power of abridging the income of the officers of the As my.' Nothing but a dearth of all feirsigtounds of attack could have induced the Right , Hon. Gentleman to have recourse to such a wretched shift-a(/fear; hear.) As to the real question, whetheriebadcbeen peace or war, he was ready to meet it feltiy ; and he mast my, that if the Noble Lord bad not been far more impatient to procure, at all events, a vote of censure, than be was anxious to investigate whether any mat ter for censure really existed, he would have moved for papal, which would have enabled him to see more clearly the proper line for bins to pursue.— But no: censure was wanted, not a fair judgment; and therefore the expedition itself was to be degraded rather than the Noble Lord's motion should be lost. Algiers was now called a petty State : he should like to know whemaptate began not to be petty. Was this sort of language to be used in order to make a shame ful trap for public opinion : or wits the term da petty" to be employed in the face of facts as a criterion whe ther this nation had or had not been at war What was the real state of the case I Duty to the English tag ; duty to the honour - of the English character ; duty to the civilised principle throughout the world, made a war with Algiers at once lawful and neces sary. That war once determined upon, was not to be settled, except on certain conditions, which were absolute sine qua temis. The gallant Admiral, there fore, though in one sense he carried with him the al ternative of war or peace, yet, from the nature of the case, could not be supposed to go out for any purpose but for battle. The body of his instructions con tained these principles and these conditions : nay, he was directed in express terms to consider as enemies all ships of the Algerian which he should meet it sea, and was ordered to destroy them whereier found. That the Noble Admiral hinstelrconceived that he w.i.t out to fight rather than bevciiite, might be ga thered from the circa:luta:ice, that to allowed only three hours for the consideiktion of the conditions..:- --Such were some of the cfieurbidnces which the, Noble Lord Would have learned, if he had been anxious to thew himself a man of busineu, instead of , a man of crimination—(Lestai erinfreestka um boo di si ) The dispatch of the gallant Admiral had been quoted for one purpose; be (Lord Castlereagh) would now refer to it for another: and certainly be could not see its that dispatch any thing to justify the surmise, that but little labour had been expended by the Board of Admiralty : on the contrary, he saw that the gallant Admiral, even in the midst of the joy of his rscent and splendid achievements, did not lose sight of Those extraordinary exertions which had, according to his own account, so contributed to his victory. He had expressed himself grateful that b 0 efficient a &et had been consigned to his use. The fact was, that very great exertion had been made by the Admiralty for the purpose of sending out a powerful expedition. The former ships in which the Noble Admiral had performed the first voyage to Algiers were completely dismantled, and new ships were furnished and equip ped for the object of the new enterprise. And what was all the present outcry raised about ? It was for the (wormy: sum of £2lO. He was ieady to admit that Government owed to the country a &sty of rigid economy ; but he was sure that nothing could appear less grave, less important, less beneficial, in the eyes of the country, than the laying hold of so insignifi cant a thing as this trifling increase of salary, in order to excite a spirit of discontent and distrust against the Ministers of the Crown.—(l/tor, hear.) Mr. LAMB conceived that the present was not merely a question of war or peace, but whether the war was one of that sort which came within the true intent and meaning of the Order in Council, and which fair and honourable men could agree to have been contemplated by those whose object had been to give increased remuneration to increased services. What I shall it be said that there is no difference be tween a war of two days, and a war where our fleets covered every sea, and blockaded every port ? It was a war perhaps, for there had been an expedition and a battle ; but was such quibbling, such special plead ing, to be adopted against the best interests of the country ? The Noble Lord (continued Mr. Lamb) has imputed to us (the Opposition) a desire to de grade the character of official men. I for one do not plead guilty to the charge: on the contrary, I feel, and have always felt, that it is impolitic and unwise to asperse any office whether high or low. I feel that it is of the utmost importance that persons of honour and integrity should have sufficient inducement to ac. cept office. 'We cannot, indeed, preserve office from degradation. We can establish, that office shall not de grade the man . : but it is out of our to order that the man shall not degrade theoffice. (Loud trierofhear.) The Honourable Secretary seems to have thought that it was impossible for him not to have made the demand which he did. The Honourable Qentleman has, I think, judged ill for himself. He appears to have forgot a maxim which must have been known to . hirn, and which should never be out of the minds of public men : he should have remembered, that envy is ever on the watch to lay hold of the faults of men in high station; that odium and obloquy pursue i all their actions ; and that the worst motives are fre quently imputed to even their best actions. How important, therefore, is it that this envy, this odium, this obloquy, should find no meanness, no sordid base ness to glut its appetite • how important that the vices, if any, which may be discovered in public men, should be somewhat of an ambitious and generous nature, and not those of a low, paltry, and worthless mind.—(Hear.)} Mr. C. BARCLAY could not hold himself josti• Bed is refusing to sanction by his vote the right of the Honourable Secretary to the increase of salary, though he should Still retain a private opinion as to the policy of enforcing that right. Mr. W. SMITH rose &m i d loud cries of question. He wished to - make one remark. He required to be satisfied as to the real ground on Which the House was to vote in this business. The Hon. Secretary and the Lords of the Admiralty were directly at issue u to the main point of the case. The Secretary had stated, that he should not have considered the Expedition to Algiers as a war, and conseqneetly should not have demanded his salary, if there had been no battle: the gallant Admiral, however, stated broadly, that the war commenced as soon as the order for an Expedition was issued. This point ought to be settled one way or other before the House came to a vote and surely the Honourable Secretary was the fairest judge, at least be could not be supposed to understate his own claim. He con siders the battle to have been the war; the battle was a business of two days; let him therefore have his Claim, that is, the salary of two days of war. The Noble Lord vrho had just spoken had armed the Opposition of making an appeal to the onseund part of the people. He (Mr. Smith) believed, that never was a charge more unfounded than inch a charge as this brought against his side of the House as a body; and as to individuals, he could say, that no man of that Opposition, no man in the House, not excepting the Noble Lc d himself, was less likely to make such an appeal than the Noble Person who had brought forward the present Motion. Indeed, the charge was not only unfounded, but, so applied, was per. fectly ridiculous. The cry of Question now became very loud, and the House divided—For the Motion 114—Against it 169—Majority in favour of the Salary, 55. On entering the Gallery we found the House in a Ceinusittee on the Report of the Malt Duty Bill, which had been recommitted. A clause relating to the Civil List having been read, Mr. H. MARTIN asked, whether it was the in tention of his Majesty'. Ministers to propose that a voluntary contribution should be paid by persons in office ; or that an assessment should be imposed in proportion to their salaries ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, it had not, been in the contemplation of his Ma jesty's Government to propose any compulsory: mea sure, but to leave it to persons in office to make what contribution they might think proper. He certainly never entertained the idea of king any rate of pro portion for the regulation of such contributions. Mr. H. MARTIN intimated, that be was satisfied with the answer of the Right Honourable Gentleman. Mr. BROUGHAM certainly understood, from the speech made by the Noble Lord a 'few days ago, that it was intended to levy a kind of tan on persons in effice. Hi not only thought that na'assessment lies to be imposed, but that its proportion was deter planed on at the rate of two shillings is; the pound. Lord CASTLEREAGH was confident he never meant to state that any rate would be proposed, and did not think he had said any thing to justify such a conclusion. What he believed he had stated was, that Ministers wished to place themselves, by their own voluntary act, under the same burdens from which they had been relieved by the repeal of the income tax. With respect to perms in office, there w as no compulsory measure whatever is view. • LONDON. TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18, Pat 7 - PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK Reduced itlii—Cons. m0.11511 7 .C0n5. for ace. 65ii 4 per Cent. 80 —S per Cent. Navy 9711 Eastinepter Bab, no. aft. pr.—lsall Bonds, 9Sa, Us. pre. The expected Reports from the Secret Committees was not presented last night. They will probably be laid upon the tables of both Houses this evening. Rumour states the following to be part of the evi dence that has come before the Committees : The Landlady - of the Golden Anchor and King's Arms, in East Smithfield, a Mrs. WRIGHT, states to this effect That a young man who went by the name of the Doctor, had lodged at ber house about eighteen months: this young man had served his' apprenticeship to the elder WATSON, and had been to sea, but tetnrned ill, having received a hurt in his leg. Siece his return, the younger WATSON had frequently called at Mrs. Wilma's to see him, and at such times be used to mix with the company (chiefly sailors) in the tap-room, and address them on the state of the nation. On such occasions his language was extremely vehe ment, and not very guarded, The first time she re collects seeing the elder WATSON was on the memo rable 2d of December, being the day the Riots took place in the City, be came into the Public-house (Golden Anchor, East Smithfield) and asked for the Doctor, with whom be cordially shook hands. The Doctor (as be was called) wished his old MUM to go into the Parlour; but WATSON observing some well-dressed people there, he drew back, and said— I had rather go into the Tap-room, trbere I can have the freedom of speech. The Landlady drew them a pot of porter, and took it to them there. The elder WATSON was then addressing himself so the sailors, there being many in the Tap-room, and she states she heard him say. 4 Follow me, my boys! if I bad had you with me, I should have carried the Tower haf an bestir ago.' This was between one and two o'clock. He continued his address, but she re- collects no other passages. " Subsequently much conversation ensued among the sailors ; some went out, and others said they would go; but being in receipt of a pension at Gteenwich, they were apprehensive they should lose it if seen thete. The young man, or doctor, afterwards took occasion to declare, that be knee of all their proceedings and plot ; and this declaration coming to the ears of the Lambeth-street Police, they bribed him to divulge it. He was afterwards obliged to go into the Lon don Hospital, where he underwent amputation of his leg, but died shortly after that operation. His evi dence, given upon oath, is said to have been taken, and to be now in the possession of the Secretary of State. On the last examination at the Secretary of State's Office, on Friday, a blacksmith in the Hay market said be had received an order to make 500 pike heads, two feet long, to be ready for delivery before ten o'clock on the morning of the 2d of De cember- Thisselton, who has absconded, is said to hate paid £lO on account for these weapons, some, of which were produced." The Members of the Committees havowittie said, been unanimous in their opinion, that thertilground for serious alarm. From this we may infer, that something of a more decidedly dangerous character than any thing that has yet transpired has come to their knowledge ; for to are not singular in thinking that in all the mad acts and projects of the poor crea tures sent to the Tower, that have been made public, there is nothing that could excite serious alarm in a strong and watchful government. A cottpitat) headed by three or four insane individuals, With 'undi to the amount of ten pounds ! to I uy warlike stores! is too contemptible for even a moment's cons;,teri. lion. These must be something behind ; I.r it impossible there should be is so much to do al•uti! nothing." Business there was little in Parliament lag nit vi but abundance of altercation. That betwern L^rd COCHRANE and Mr. 'BROUGHAM will amuse our Rc4, dcrs—as also the wrangle with the Secretary o f 0,, Admiralty—whether he was entitled to a ;s.a parser': war salary, or only to the increase for two days, during which we were at war with Alg• Towards the close of the business some Tieni r , were put respecting the sacrifices expected to be m..d by public servants receiving salaries. We have this morning received Brussas Pan the 15th instant, but they are chiefly filled with '- tracts from French and other Journals, which h.r. already been before vs. We last night received the French Paßers of Fr, day, and this morning those of Saturday La; but their contents possess very little interest. The Chamber of Deputies have at length colclud ed the general discussion on the Budget, and art now to proceed to discuss and vote upon the articl. 3 of it seriatim,. It is not improbable that as much tin!e may be spent in the details as has been Alit:. idy on the principles of the Scheme ; and at that rate tte, need not look for a conclusive determination uronk till we have had yet some twenty and metre adjourn ments upon it.—" How cleverly (says /) , N) tl.cy do manage things in France !" A mi , nth's deb.ite on a Budget! ! A month's disputing abont what they know they must agree to at lart ! The Funds continue rising. On Friday off at SOt. 70c. General' tritium's DUNDAS is Appointed Covzrlo ot,thilkartpn Cattle. 044,07 e mPut b..ck the Elizatieti, fer Canseshown the River and remain—the Wet - .ion and Osisiss, for Bengal; Amulus, for Gibr.dts: ; Nurvd, Greenock; Rock, for Leghorn; Palace,for Cadiz; and Canada, (or St. Vincent's.—Wind S • W. PoaVSMOO - ru, Frs. I 7.—Arrlved the Ebenez r,TuLker, •r. Newcastle for Torbay ; Ariadne, Duncan, (rem the Down.; ; William Dixon, Dicey, from St. M•clsaerv. Th- Ebtl, err from an anchor and cable In the Downs.—Wind W.S.W. Rassicsve, 17.—Put iu for shelter the Prince to Olive Branch, Providence, Four Friends, Dollop', I) Pallas, la Sarnaratiaa, Gibing, and Alexander —the by i t was her boom carried away. Gaave s arta, Faa.l7.—Arrived the Enterprise Jonei, Ir m Pernambuco • Oporto, Cnvey, from Oporto; C am b rian, emit from Jamaic a, Sailed the Bombay Metchan , Lttrk<tn , for Bombay; Ceres, Himber, for Antigua; the i-t.ttri, for Havannalt; the Glory, Scott, for Antwerp; M .r•hat Blucher, Adams, fur Ostend; Sarah Margaret, NlOO4O I, fat Bremen; Fanny, Bp h, for Rotterdam g Masi. Adulybatt., 114. verbuk. for Amsterdam. The Grand Venetian Festival and Masked Ball veer at Itoglh.h Opera House, yesterday evening, exceeded ti and festivity every thing of the kind which has hith att place in this country. Upwards of six hundred pLit , i.iis w:te present—unong whom were several of the Nubility at .1 Getrty, and natty excellent Masks; but want of room ?reveres us from catering into farther particulars at present. COVINT.GAIMEN 11 . 11CATILZ.The Public are aware, that the newspapers as well as the bills of the Theatre had annt urced Mr. Boors for a thifil performance of the part of Rnh.n.inii TAir4l, for yesterday evening. The play of l'izarro, hewever, was announced in the hills of yesterday, without :xent.otal the alteration, or in any way introducing the name t Mr. l)..o h. The unexpected alteration, as might be expected, d:t•w toget'ter an audience determined upon having an explanation of the nes ter ; and, upon the rising of :he 'curtain last night, the cry " kichard," and " Booth," wee loudly vociferated trout .11 pare of the HOGS!. In vain did Mrs. Egerton attempt to pincer!:a the part of Elvira, the noise became still louder, and the t is rung with hisses and cries of " off, off!" the performanct, withstanding, was attempted to be persevered in, but the tumult was as obstinately maintained. After a lapse of ten minutes, .'Jr FAwcerr made his appearance, the performance mated, • silence being obtained, the Manager spoke to the following of " Ladies and Gentlemen—k was the anxious wish of the prietarP,AgAlais Theatre that Mr. Booth should continue ne. , lefßikkorta; !and why be has not appeared before you this even , . hag Amax best be explained, by elating to you in truth and cantle 6r IMSW of the matter, and you will then be enabled to draw yoke • Inferences t—Mr. Rooth having beet: announced for the past of Richard en Friday night last, that Gentleman oa th: fallowing morning waited upon a Proprivor of this Th, air and rated, that having twice successfully played the part, L, , not think it right that he should repeat the character v.:11• et a =lengagement being entered into.—[,hours or " "] --Mr. Booth, at this interview, required La eng.e,:r• meet of three years, and a progressive salary. Iwu nt,:e rears were to be added to this engagement. The Proprietor, :u reply to this proposition, declined entering into a positive enger: not: r until experience shook! enable him to form some standard for air predating Mr. Booth's talents, and therefore prnpo:ed tu tie what he conceived a fair salary; and promi,ed that if succeis at• tended his efforts, he would be duly compensated. Mr. Bireth, r however, insisted upon his proposed en :t bat the Pte.• ptietor did not conceive it right to accede.--(l Jere some Gerik; man rose in the Pit, and asked why Mr. hoods had bees t4le:t-t. 'but ilea pounds per week ?j F. 1%% cr vr—" I solemnly dream that such a thing was sit ver thought of; and it is i:o:crious 024 the Proprietors 01 this Tht are are more , or Illy than parsimony. I will lit:twice the cue o: tat vp, late Mr. Cooke, and the present Mss upon lug the Company, were each placed uposi humble salve*, y t who succeeding eminently in drawing money to 'he were prorinionably advanced to lib, ral erigartuents.— ;lc ••i, from all quartersl—Why, therefore, should Mr. MO, lentil as a pecnhar obj, ct ut parsimony more than ^!' .r' [lt is true, however, said a Gentleman In the P:t, •'irt spurned at Poo pounds, and threatened to leave ,cu, be r** tered • fiste! and, spurning ibis also, lie has b, ea n f L• 1 7 . 'lt other House)—Mr. FAUCET f resumed—" It I.F siti:e for use to reply to observations 'itch as I have j'ast Lear:, a " answer every question that n:ay be nudist iirumately port re me; it is sufficient only for me to atture you, that it wor the a; 4 Anxious desire of the Propriett rs that Mr. Cowl shnul : e t'" ••• his performance, and that his exenionc, if sticcessf:::, sfro.d , ' duly rewarded. 'l he door of reconciliation, Itm . ..orat " open, and it is hoped .Mr. Booth will agouti rirar boards."—[" it is too late," from several voices— . • He 1 eluded in engagement at Old Drury, acd will ajar there night.]—Mr. law CETI Y.)%v butve I iifo' aaudst a din ut groans and hiss..., wlrch coirtietiel tauteahaftewwhieh . he Play of Pizarro proceeded, in air helricarop4,sustained the character ut noda, with goc - i • - The performance was again iwerropted, towards the a freak kW honour between some Gentlemen in the f •-' boxes. Very high words passed, and cards were hive'..: d • but we hope nothing more &sacrum will result tr0..1 "'• rel than the confusion it occasioned.. Duct. —Sunday se'nnight a meting took p!..ct in bourhood of Strabane , bZiWttll LICUICOIII . • Go—.ll, of the Vflifl iteginiest. 'TL.: -former sea. the thigh by the first fire, when s the aftaw was atfla:trd I.; laterlerence of the second.. LONDON: Primo"! by Las ley ow-1.., ..Publislitd Liam., and a t u Zig • Uffice, • 1 ands!: -:t•: ~4 Mr. GORDON asked, whether it was intended to propose any reduction in the Windsor establishment He wottld, not have noticed this delicate subject, were it not notori•us that manj of the expenses of that establishment were, to say the least of them, unnecessary, and could not be considered as any mark Of respect to the lllu►trious personage who was the object of them. Indeed many of these expenses, un4er the peculiar circumstances of the case, ap peared to partake more of the nature of mockery than respect. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, that motives of delicacy withheld him from answering the_Honourable Gentleman's question, or entering into any explanation on the subject to which he had alludA. Mr. W. SMITH said, be had understood from the speech of the Noble Lord opposite, that it was intended to levy a duty on the salaries of persons in office, and not a voluntary contribution, as it was now explained to be. Mr. BROUGHAM was convinced that, whether the contribetion was to be voluntary or not, every man would regret to see it fall heavily on persons holding inferior offices, who were in general very in adequately remunerated for their labour. If the measure had come before the House as a tax, this consideration would doubtless have been attended to ; and he hoped that, in any arrangement which might be made, care-would be taken to press very tenderly on offices to which small salaries are attached. Lord CASTLEREAGH again stated, that the contribution of every individual would be voluntary, and that from the lower offices none would be raised. A clause was then introduced into the Bill, autho rizing the Lords of the Treasury to receive and apply to the public service such sums as the Prince Regent may order to be paid out of the money appropriated to the Civil List, and such sums as may be volun tarily contributed by persons in office from their offi cial salaries. The Raport being read and agreed to, was ordered to be taken into tunherconsideration on Wednesday next. Mr. CAI-CRAW 1' postponed his motion relative to the Salt Duties until Friday seunight.—ltourord. THE EvENING STAR. 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