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i • to the hands of enemy. (Ht or, hear.) He doubted whe• they the offence committed by Portugal was of such a nature that we might not finally be called upon to interfere, and it must be admitted by the noble earl that no defect in the title of the reigning Stive.•reign could furnish any excuse. The British Government could not shelter itself tinder any pretext connected with this dispute as to title, fot only a few months aim they had enforced the very treaty against the present vernment of Por.ergal under which Portugal might tient their assistance. Rut, apart from the considerations lit justice, he begged their lordships to view the subject in oration merely to the policy of this country. There was no c un ry in the wend whose nuance and blend ship were so important as those of Portage!. Thera was rent whose independence of other countries was so impor tant to this country its that of Portugal. But now,with a bill before the other house of parliament to destroy the . con- MCI cial treaty between the two countries, and to deprive Por tugal of the great advent:ewe she had been accustomed to TletiVe from tir, we pern.itted Portugal to be invaded by a foreign power. Could they then he !eternised .if Portugal should refuse their protection wherever the moment might again arrive et which it would be e..!venteecous to otter it ? (Cheers.) Would it be wonderful if, when France should urge h r demands :teen Pentugal, ns the peke of peace or of forbearance, and Enelanil, justly alarmed at the extent of these demands, should be at last disposed to interfere, Por tugal should say, "No; nothing is to be expected from England, except when her own immediate purposes are to he served; we will put ourselves under the protection of France ?" And could any body doubt that if this disposition were shown by Portugal, France would be ready enough to embrace the opportunity ?—(Loud and general cheers.) Earl GREY could rot follow the noble duke in the observations which he made, in consequence of the tee geciations now pending on that Fobit 0. But lie agiee with the noble duke, that this country should feel hue. miliated on account of the entrance of a French fleet into the Tagus. All he could say was, that an insult Lad been offered by the Portuguese Government to the French Creg.....' vernment ; that satisfaction was demanded anal refused up.; to eke last moment; that in cors.tper ce thereof a French fleet entered the Tagus, and that satisfaction was then given ;—there matters tested. It ras not true that that country was invaded. He could not say more at pre sent. * When the case came properly before the house, he hoped that he should satisfy their lordships of the propriety of the course pursued by this Government. Ile agreed with the Noble Duke that the object of erecting the fortresses in Belgium was not to attack France, but to secure Belgium from France; but that was not the subject now. The question was, whether it was possible, consis. tartly with the Interests of the country, to support these fortresses? in his opinion, the neutrality was more than an :adequate substitute for their demolition. He was satisfied that if a war broke out between France and Belgium, these fortresees would be in the hands of the French In the first w►ek of the campaign.—(Hear, hear.) His own opinion at the time of their erection was, that they would not 'trilled any adeq•tate security from the ingression of France. He entreated their Lordships to suspend their opinions until the case came properly before the House, when he trusted lie would be able to satisfy their Lordships that Belgium would he in a better condition by the new arrangement than she had been by the treaty of 1814. The third readirg of the Fraudulent Debtors Bill was, on the motion of Lord WreroaD, postponed to Tuesday. The House then aejourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The grittier was not opened until half-past four o'clock, in consequence of tite House having been engaged in balotting for the Carmarthen borough election Committee. Mr. BURGE presented petitions from the counties of Angus and Kincardine, and from the town of Banff, praying toe an enquiry into the state of the slaves in the West !relies. Mr. FEN RA RD presented a petition from the clergy and t thee inhabitants of the county of Kerry, In favour of the grant to the Kildare-street Society. Mr. O'CONNELL admitted that the signatures to the petition were respectable, but then they were for the most part those of persons who encouraged party spirit and reli gious animosity. He could not agree with the petitioners as to the usefulness of the grant, and he believed that if the 'limey were to be applied to the education of children of all deeonrinations, and w ithout any religious distinction, it would be productive of greater benefit, and give greater sa tisfaction to many of the petitioners. Mr. LEFROY thought that the honourable and learned it ember for Kerry was not justified in making such observa. tines. The Catholic laity were in favour of the grant, but the Catholic clergy were opposed to it. Mr. O'CONNELL denied the fact to be so. After a few words from Mr. JEntsox, the petition was ordered to be printed. Mr. KING presented a petition from a parish in the ceunty of Cork, against the grant to the Kildare-street So cmy. NI. A. LEFROY presented petitions from Belfast and cent places, in favour of the grant.—Ordered to be printed. NI r. JEPHSON presented contrary petitions from several paces in the county of Cork. REMOVAL OF NAVAL DEPOTS. Mr. KING presented a petition from the inhabitants of the Cove of Cork, praying that the naval depot at that sta tion might be re-established. Ordered to be printed. MESSAGE recite THE LORDS. It was announced by the messenger from the Lords that t'.•c Lords had agreed to several private bills. COMMITTEE ON THE REFORM BILL. Lord J. RUSSELL rose to trove the reading of the Order of the Day for the house to go into committee on the Be teen: bill. On the question being put, THE BELOIC FORTRESSES. REFORM COMMITTEE. The House then resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House upon the English Reform BR On the question that the borough of Queenborough stand part of schedule A, After a few words from Mr. CA PEI. and Mr. HoLna- WORTH, denying that this was a rotten borough, the motion was agreed to without a division. On the motion that the borough of New Romney stand part of schedule A, Sir E. DEERING thought that the boroughs of New Romney and Lynn ought to be united, and dealt with upon the same principle that had been applied to Sandwich and Deal. It was a parallel case, and ought to be treated in the same manner. New Romney was one of the Cinque Ports. Cul. EVANS declared that New Romney had been for several hundred years a nomination borough. It WAS a small and inconsiderable place, and could, consequently, bear no comparison with either Deal or Sandwich, which were sea port towns, and rleces of considerable commercial traffic. Ile should vote for its disfranchisement. Sir J. BKYDG ES thought that this borough was entitled to be taken ought of schedule A. and placed in schedule B. Lord J. RUSSELL observed that Sandwich was not allowed to return a member with Deal because it was a limb of Deal, but because it was once a flourishing place. The borough of New Romney bore no parellel to Deal and Sand wich, and therefore could not be treated upon the same prin. ciples. Sir C. WETHERELL differed is opinion from the no ble lord, and contended that, in the cases of Sandwich and Deal, New Romney and Lynn, there really existed no dis tinction whatever. But New Romney, being a nomination borough, was destroyed. Lord J. RUSSELL said that it was not merely because it was a nomination borough that it was to be disfranchised, but because its population did not reach the line specified in the bill. Penryn and Falmouth, and Sandwich and Deal had been joined together, because two of the places were con siderable sea-port towns, and contained upwards of 10,000 inhabitants ; whereas the population of New Romney and Lynn was inconsiderable, the one containing about 1,500, and the other 900. Tile noble lord denied that the cases were not to be distinguished from each other. Mr. CROKER had understood, since he had entered the house. that a gallant officer (Colonel Evans) had proposed a plan for hurrying the measure through the Committee, and getting rid of what he was pleased to call the delay which had been occasioned by those who opposed the bill. Colonel EVANS denied that lie had proposed any plan. All that he had done was to suggest that they should meet earlier, and, if possible, get rid or all trifling and unnecessary delay. Mr. CROKER said that the gallant officer had given the house a tolerable good sample of his wish for dispatch, in having occupied so much of their time in making a speech upon a borough, for the disfranchisement of which be was so anxious to vote. He (Mr. Croker) did not complain of the gallant officer for doing his duty, for, in fact, giving evidence of that which came within his knowledge ; but be did complain of the gallant officer's refusing that right of speech to others which he had exercised himself. The right lion. gentleman then adverted to what had fallen from the noble lord with respect to the union of Penryn and Fal mouth, and Deal and Sandwich, observing that this was a new principle of the measure %%Melt the noble lord had dis closed, and which lie (Mr. Croker) entreated the House to bear in mind. The right bon. gentleman contrasted the circumstances of Sandwich and New Romney, and argued that New Romney, being one of the Cinque ports, was as deserving of favour as Sandwich. lie wished to ask the noble lord the reason of Sandwich being so favoured. Lord J. RUSSELL replied that h. had already answered 7 , . Sir R. PERL said that, before they proceeded with the Committee, he aished to put a question to the noble lord, which he was very desirous of having answered. 'ln a docu melt which had been published, an d which purported to be tine Speech of the King of the French, it was said that a ne gociation was on foot for dismantling the fortifications which had been erected on the boundaries of Belgium, under the cOnvention of 1815. If this really was the fact, if the state tilrbt to which he alluded was true, he wished to know from the noble lord opposite (Lord Althorp) whether his Ma jcs:y's 31inistcrs would have any objection that the treaty of under which these fortifications bad been erected, s: , , old be kid upon the table. The CIIA NC ELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that lie could not then take upon him to answer the question of the right honourable baronet. The noble lord the Se cleutry for Foreign Affairs would shortly be in his place, ai.d he, no do:at:, would have no difficulty In giving the answer required. Toe question was again put. THE DILATOUY PSOWLESS OF THE nEroax BILL. C,;!.)ul EVANS rose, be said, for the purpose of calling the attention of the House to the dilatory progress of the Di I thlougli tlle Committee. Although the bill had been he Coattnitiee now for some weeks, a single clause of it hail not been got through. The country would not tamely Vogl. this delay, and when it must be known to every hon. gent. present that out of doors the utmost exciietnent pre vailed, the necessity of adopting some means of preventing the time of the house from being trifled with ought to be apparent. Delaying the progress of the bill much longer, he was satisfied, from his knowledge of the state of public feeling, would tend to the worst consequence, and possibly produce that contusion and revolution which hail been so much talked of. The hon. and gallant officer alluded to the i.opatience of the Birmingham and Manchester Political Union Societies at the delay, and said that, if some step were trot taken to expedite the measure through the house, every ocher Union Society would follow their example, and tha result would be a degree of public clamour which it might not be very e.oy to deal with. He had wished ant . earlier hour than live o'clock to hove been fixed for proceeding with the ('...mm tee:, and unless he very speedily saw that the pro. gress of the Lill was greatly facilitated, he should certainly lest it to be his duty to introduce a specific motion upon the atibject.--(llear.) Mr. J. SMITH declared that he was heartily tired of bearing day after day the same speeches over and over again. The safety and tranquillity of the country demanded that ro further trifling should be permitted, and he would sug. gest to the noble lord whether it would not be advisable for him at once to bring forward a motion that the house should sic at twelve, instead of five o'clock. It was most 11.portant that the measure should be hurried as speedily as possibl.: through that house. Mr. HUNT did not rise to object to their sitting earlier, but to deny that any such agitation as that alluded to by the gallant officer existed. He had beet, anziouslyl leaking for agitation, but he could see none. (A laugh.) The gallant officer had stated that the Political Union tiaciettes at Manchester and Birmingham were feverish, be cause of the delay which had been given to the measure ; but when the gallant o ea made this statement to the house, had he forgotten the petitions which he (Mr. Hunt) had presented from those very societies, a short time ago, ~~ . f.f the question. CROKER said that he would do that which the noble lord declined to do • be would give the explanation. When the Government Candidate went down to Sandwich, ' it appeared, by the public press, that the corpora tion, which was composed of pilots and persons connect ed the sea, had obtained a promise from him, and that this promise led to the petitions which were subsequently presented to the Government in favour of the union of that borough and Deal. lie had heard that the ministerial candidate for Sandwich held out promises that it would not be dlr. franchised. Mr. T. COOKE said that the statement made by the right hon. gent. respecting Sandwich, was perfectly unfounded.— (Hear.) Lord D. STEWART said whatever Arundel might have been, it was not now a nomination borough.--(Hear.) Colonel EVANS had been accused of speaking eery often; now he bad only addressed about ten words to the house on the subject immediately before it, while the right hon. gent.' opposite ( Mr. Croker) had gone round and round the argu. ment, without ever touching the Main question before the house.—(Hear, hear.) He had not the talent of the tight gen•lemsn, and therefore he was obliged to be content with addressing himself to the immediate question before the house. It was a very strange thing; but it would appear that the borough of Caine had a parity with almost every borough that ought to be disfranchised.—(Hear.) Mt. CHOKER did not accuse the honourable and gal. lant gentlemen of having unnecessarily taken up the timed the house ; all he said was, that the gallant gentleman must rot expect to hurry the bill through the house without allowing other persons to adcheu the house res pecting the bill. After a few words from Sir E. DIMLING and Mr. C. Pir.u.sat, the motion was agreed to. Upon the motion that the borough of St. Galindo stand pan of Sehedole A, lie. ROSS rose for the purpose of contending that the borough in question ought to continue in schedule B, as it had been in that schedule in the first bW. He admitted, however, that the borough did not contain 2,000 persons, , 1 % which petitions, instead of showing any impa ti e nce about p ut the parish and borough of St. Germain e did contain more A ft er a few remarks from Mr. CROKER and Mr. t h e Reform Bill, loudly complained that it was not the sort than that number, and therefore ought to send a member to PRAED F , the bo gallery was cleared for a division, or t amendment of measure which they wanted, or which would more the that house. working classes. (Loud cheers.) He had also presented Ranh J. RUSSELL said it was true the borough in ques. Against it for Minister "—VI similar petitions from large bodies of the working classes tion had formerly been in schedule B. but it since appeared Ma j orit y t hemselves stating that the Reform Bill did not meet their that there were only 600 persons in the town of St. Germaine, It was then moved that the borough of St, Maims stand views, and consequently they could have little feeling one and a population of upwards of 2,000 in the parish was part of schedule A. way or the other About the progress which was made in it. spread over a large tract of land exceeding upwards of After some observations from Captain Halms and Mr. (Ilear, hear.) For his part, he could have no objection 9,020 acres, while the borough was on a space containing C. PEenes, the motion was agreed to. whatever to their meeting at an early boor, for, on dm con- only 50 acres, (hear ;) and nothing could be more objection The borough of St. Michaels was then added to eche nary. his objection was to their sitting to a late hour.— able than taking in the rural population to add to the dule A. (Hear. hear.) town p o p ulation. It was then moved that the borough of Saltash stand part Air. BULB' F.lt expressed it as hie opinion that much Mr. PRAED said that, when he was presented by the of schedule A. frivolous opoosition Itad been given to the progress of the patron of the borough in question to the voters, he woe Mr. CROKER said that the borough had a population measure. It was not at all fair to indulge in a long discus- known to be pledged by early conceived notions to lIOS. of 1,500, and the parish and borough had a population of lion upon questions respecting which there could have been tility to the measures of his Majesty's Ministers, .and he 2,800, and he thought It ought, not to be included in eche. no doubt ; and he hoped the delay occasioned by such should never have appeared in that House, if he did not feel dule A. It was a peculiar mac, and it was unjust to de means would be prevented. that, in supporting the interests of the patron of this borough, prive it of its two members. An Hon. MEMBER, whose name could not be ascertained, he was also advocating the cause of the public. lie con- Lord ALTHORP said that the Government considered gave notice that he meant, in the Conii ittee, to move a team tended that, from th e state of the borough in question, enquiry lie borough of Saltash one of those cases where they Maws to the erect, that In all boroughs in which the right ought to be adopted, and if it were, he was satisfied that could not include the parish In the borough. However, of voit, belonged to the inhabitant householdere, the quail. still St. Gcrmains would return at least one member to that from the facts stated by the right hon. ge n tleman , and fro m fice lion g eheild be for rent of 51 ; that in the close boroughs House. Ile called upon the noble lord opposite to destroy other sources of information, he considered it was a case winch were to be thrown open, the qu inflation should be a this nomination borough of Sr. Germaine, by extending the of doubt, and he left it to the Committee to decide upon rent of lel. ; and that in all the boroughs contained in seise- franchise to the large population in the earish. The noble the ease. dule C. the qualtficatiou should lc a rent of 201, lord objected to extending the franchise of the town of St, Mr. CROKER explained. ihe CHANCELLORCHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed Germaine, because the franchise would be given to the rural Mr. H. VILLIERS considered that the borough of Salt. that his Majesty's Ministers would be glad to adopt any or agricultural interests of the place, on the ground that this ash ought not to be included in schedule A. arrangement which would expedite the Bill through the would be violating the principles of the bill. Now he Lord MILTON said that he hoped hisnoble friend (Lord Committee ; but he could not see how any altmation of the contended, that as the principle of the bill was to extend Althorp) would not yield to the suggestion of any member hour would accomplish that object. Ile certainly was win the franchise, that giving the franchise to the population of in this case, but adhere to the rule laid down. The borough ling to admit that the House should have an opportunity of the parish in this can, would be giving real effect to the of Saltash was in the parish of St. Stephens, and only formed a part of the parish, and did not form a principal part. It fully discussing the details of the Bill, hut he at the san • principle of the bill. time felt that the opponents of it had indulged in a too great air. ST An mty said that if they admitted counsel and was a similar ease to Beeraleton. latitude. By the present arrangement, by sitting at five witnesses to be heard for or against certain boroughs, there .111 r. BULLER spoke against the borough being Included o'clock, they were enabled to entertain the discussion for would have been no end to the discussion of this bill. The in schedule A. I eight home, and he could not for his part see that they house, therefore, very wisely objected to such a course. The Lord J. RUSSELL said that he considered it but justice could devote moretime to it, even if they were to come at an hon. gent. opposite, after adverting to aced eulogising the from all the circumstances attending the °case of this bo. cashier hour. Sitting et an earlier hour would. he much conduct of the patron of the borough, said now for the ho. rough, to exclude it from schedule A. ,be conducive of great inconvenience , at all events, to rough, giving tl.e interests of the patron the 'accedence. Ile The gallery was cleared f or a division. el embers of the Government. (31r. S.) would also say " now ha the borough ; and he For condemning the borough of Saltash..lso Sir It. PELT. going into committee would not only be inconvenient, but nomination borough, the Government had wisely determined Majority in favour of this Boroughs ...-81 'could operate u nfavourably towards those who wished to to got Ha of it. Government were determined to get rid of 1 On the motion that Old Sarum stand part of schedule A, offer theirecoomientious opposition to the bill, and who had all nomination boroughs, (hear, hear,) and they did so Sir C. FORBES wished to know what the noble lord a right so to do. He claimed an undoubted right to discuss upon a particular principle, namely, that unless the popu- would do next, after he had disfranchised Old Sarum ? and deliberate upon a measure of such vast importance fully, tion of the borough contained COM persons, it ought to be 1 Mr. O'CONNELL recollected having beard of Lord and deprecated the conduct of the gallant officer, in threat. disfranchised, (Mar, hear); and although they had, in one 1 Camelford, that he said if he had lived until the next elect cuing that house with force from out of doom. He (Sir R., or two roses—the borough of Dos mon for inetance— I dun, he would put in his negro servant for Old Sarurn, but Peel) hoped, however, that the house would not be intim& deviated from the letter, they had set adhered to the spirit I unfortunately he did not live so lung. dated by such appeals, and that his Majesty's government o f the bill. ( Hear,. hear. ) The y bad all through objected. Mr. WYNN observed that there was not the least fours. would not attempt to abrogate the discussion of the measure. ot drat. ing In the rural population to drown or swamp the dation for that remark. Mr. C. PELHAIII made a few observations upon the right inhabitants of the towns. lie denied that he bad injured I Mr. C. FERGUSSON said that there was no person in of discussion, and the question was again put. the rights of the inhabitants of a borough, if he refused to ; the house prepared to defend Old Sarum. Col. TORRENS presented a petition from the Rev. Mr . extend the suffrage to a surrounding agricultural population. ! Ali. HUNT knew Old Sarum very well, and he would say Cutter, praying that the borough of Ashburton might be Upon the sante principle Old Sarum might complain. Ile' that the representative of that borough would represent the placed in schedule C.—Ordered to be printed. should vote for the destruction of this borough on the sante ! people of England, as much as the representatives of the TEA BAWK CHASTER , grounds as he voted for the destruction of Downton. (Hear.) I borough of Saltash would. Mr. C. PELHAM wished to know from the noble lost Mr. PlistED complained of the manner in which his ar- . The question was then put that Old Sarum stand part of opposite, whether it was his intention to bring forward any guments had been dealt with by the right lion. gentleman . schedule A, and carried. measure, or make any statement, relative to the Rank opposite. It was evident that the returns made in many On the motion that the borough of Seaford stand part of' Charter. cases were incorrect, and be instanced the contrast in the schedule A, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied first and second returns made respecting houses in certain Mr. LYON observed that Seaford stood in the same posi that he had no measure or statement upon the subject to boroughs. don that Sandwich had been. make at present. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the Government had no Sir C. WETHERELL did not see why Seaford should reason to doubt the correctness of the returns made respect- not be united with Brighton, from which place it wart not lug the borough before the house. more than ten miles distant. Brighton was to send one tom , Sir C. W ETIIERELL said that the right hon. gentle. ber, why not join it to Seaford, and let them send two ? man opposite (Mr. Stanley) might as well go to Macedon in Seaford was then condemned. Greece as Old Sarum to illustrate his argument. He knew On the question that the borough of Steyning stand part of no difference between Horsham, which was allowed to be of schedule A, ' swamp et,' to use the right bon. gentleman's expression, (After the Ayes had been expressed), it the common of Horsham, and thereby saved, and the Sir C. WETHERELL was surprised that none of the borough of St. Germaine. Morpeth was also swamped in a members for Sussex advocated the cause of these boroughs. large: extent of country, to save it from destruction. He Here were two boroughs in Sussex to be successively disfran saw nee reason therefore why St. (lermain' should not be chiscd, and the franchise was perhaps to be transferred to '• swamped." Why were Knaresborough and Caine to be the collieries of Durham. There were to be so many boroughs preserved by-amid:me, they being nomination boroughs ? created there, that this ought to be called the Durham Act. No answer had been given to the facts stated in support of —(Laughter.) the burot gls of St. Germaine being continued in schedule B. Lord G. LENNOX had not got up to speak respecting Mr LAMBERT thought if the application of the loin- these borough, because he had not confidence enough to de eiple of the bill were fair and honest, it was not necessary fend a bad cause.—(Cheers.) that the letter shonld be too closely adhered to. The hon. Mr. CURTEIS observed that the rotten boroughs of member went into some general remark upon reform amidst Sussex were a disgrace to that county. cries of question. Sir C. WETHe:RELL was of opinion that if the county Sir R. PEEL hoped that the gallant gentleman, the of Sussex was polled, it would be found that they were not member for Rye, would report the conduct of the hon. reformers. gentleman who spoke last to the Political Unions of Bir. Lord G. LENNOX denied the assertion. Ninety-niaa mingham, &c. the members of which societies were getting out of one hundred of the freholden were in favour of this anuoyed at the delay that took place respecting the bill. bilk (Hear, and laughter.) That lion. gentleman threw out vs- After some desultory observations, rious inducements to the opposers of the bill to delay it, by Mr. HUNT said he became a reformer early in Warr= replying to hie observations ; but he (Sir B. Peel) should having a knowledge of Steyning. He had a Mr. Bryan, an not take advantage of the epponunity given him to argue agent from the Duke of Norfolk, dining with him some years the general question of reform. lie should apply him- ago. After dinner, they came down to the lobby, and mat self to the question before the house. 11e contended that they one of the members for Steynin g coming out of the boom. Aught to give to the rural population, possessing, between 41 Where are you going ? " said Mr. Bryan to the member. their houses and their lands, a holding of 10L a- ear, a vote " I am going to parr off with General Gammen," said the for the representation of the town. %hilly were th ey extend- member. " No," said Bryan, " you must not, for the ing the right of voting in every other particular, and restrain. Duke sent me down here to tell his members that they must ing it in this. (Hear.) By extending the franchise of the stay in the house, and vote on every question." In conse quence of this, the member was obliged to return le the town into the rural district, they were nuking the inde pendence of the town more complete, and by doing this Roue& This circumstance shewed to him what beressb timy were making the proposed object of the bill more cow- mongering was, and ever since that he had been a rehmess plebe. (Hear, hear.) It was the steward of the late Duke of Norfolk who did this. Mr. LAMBERT said that, in expressing his opinion, After a few words from Lord STAXLZY and Mr. Berm, it was a matter of indifference to him whether he pleased or Steyning was condemned. displeased either the members of Unions or individuals. The motions that the boroughs of Stockbridge and Tea. (Hear, hear.) gong be placed in schedule A. were next put and carried, Sir R. PILEL did not doubt the hon. gentleman's in- without eliciting ar observation. dependence. On the motion that the borough of Wareham stand peel The ATTORNEY-GENERAL did not think that the of schedule A, observations of one hon. gentleman ought to be brought into Mr. G. BANKS was rather surprised that none of play against another hon. gentleman. But of this he was the Members fur that borough had I made any attempt es sure, that the impatience expressed out of doors ought not save it. I to be disregarded by that house. (Hear, hear.) The King's Captain G. CALCRAFT certainly had intended himself ministers had been taunted with certain Anomalies that had to move that Wareham be inserted in schedule B; but as eprung out of the principle upon which the bill was founded- seeing the decision of the house in the cases of Appleby mad' , He was only astonished that there were not more of these other boroughs, he saw he had not a leg to stand on ; be 1 anomalies (hear). But the Reform Bill was not introduced therefore determ inedi not to delay the progress of the bill by to destroy anomalies, but to do away with those abuses, the a fruitless opposition to the disfranchisement of Wareham. scandals and disgraces of the constitution, the nomination (Hear.) boroughs (cheers.) lie thought the Ministers, instead of Lord J. RUSSELL observed that Ministers Ail ass. deserving the censure of gentlemen for retaining certainsacred t h e i r case somet i me ago, and t h ey did we t di s k i t I boroughs favourable to themselves,were really too forbearing I should be excluded from schedule A. with respect to boroughs opposed to them. He instanced Sir C. WETHERELL proposeellto adjourn this on is their conduct towards Aldborough and Buckingham. The order that further enquiry should be made respecting this I very circumstance of the persons who possessed the right to borough. nominate, formed one of the strongest grounds to disfran- I After a few words from Captain CatriarT and Mr. chile the borough, as it was the same persons who still Roßseesox, the motion was agreed to. endeavoured to maintain au influence whit it he (the Attorney The motion that the boroughs of Wendover and Weobley General) considered unconstitutienaL stand part of schedule A. were put consecutively, and also Mr. CHOKER said that, when a line was drawn and agreed to. honestly pursued, it was surprising that there were so man . On the motion drat the borough of Whitchurch stand part anomalies. Was there no anomaly in the fact of alO of schedule A, freeholder in Grosvenor.square being considered of the same Col. TOWNSEND and Sir S. SCOTT spoke briefly importance as a 101. freeholder in tie most inferior street ? in v i n di cat i on o f the character o f t h e i r const i tuents f or Was there no anaidoly in the circumstance of Halton send- p ur i t y of conduct.—The mot i on was two members, when Bolton, with a population of fifty On the motion that the borough of agreed to rhea stand part thousand, would only be allowed to return one.—(Cheen.) o f schedule A, He deprecated the departure from the rule laid down by Mi. Mr. CURTEIS presented a petition from the inhabitants nisters. The borough of Caine was preserved because the of Winchelses,stating that the inhabitants within the ancient if limits of its charter more than exceeded the line of populae boroughs and parish were confounded.—(Hear, hear.) the Government had rolhered to their own information, tion, and denying that they had ever done any act to warrant t..e borough of Caine would be in schedule A.—(Cheers.) tbeir being deprived of their privileges. It was an extraordinary coincidence, that the borough of A an f t, and li terbil i m rC. l'ethercll cunv t cnation , the between Mr. w nMr. C. agreed to. Pelham, Col. Caine captained 0,000 acres, the precise number of acres that Evans, the borough of tit. Germain' contained.—(Hen, hear.) The On t h e mot i on t h at t h e b oroug h of Woodstock stand part population of Caine was returned as 4,300 by the union of of schedule A, - able Los p d iace ST , G o ß d ll tf lO tho NT p e a m t i t ten of led the i tr ith this wb w kh as wltactonstlderthe the parish. There is no case in compariso n n i , ere th w at as S n t o . t G o e ne r. mains was not superior to Aldborough. view that could be taken of the subject, that was not in town was hmluded, the borough would be entitled to be favour of St. Germaine. Ho would oppose all anomalies, taken out of schedule A. - and he was prepared to show that the line had not been Lord RUSS ELL e disfranchisement,explainedin so low ofooditeck had a w tone the prin honestly pursued. He implored the Committee to be just, ciplea u p on wid th the and temper their severity with justice, and relieve the coon. proceeded, that h i s lordship's observations were v ery imps. fecily heard in the gallery. tty front the arbitrary dictates of the noble lord. He shouldery Pere Mr. O'CONNELL said that he could, on the authority vote for the borough of St. Germaine being placed in of the Marquis of Blandford, that friend to Reform den inde dently. schedule B. that Woodstock was a nomination bo gl and decla r e that Lund J. RUSSELL said that the subject was so exhaust. the voters who were freemenbyserv lcku ltude, l' had always acted ed, that he should not take up the time of the Committee, but for the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman, who had not stated the case accurately. He (Lord J. Russell) had it Ir e . u PILSED Lord AIIIII and tr, Sir C. Wernmext.e., dealt with Caine as he had done with a great many other a dd ressed the e ninmittee. boroughs, and was solely governed by the population re. Lord R. CHURCHILL was a friend to reform, so far as turns. It the Government had a desire to preserve the in. re l ate d to the transferring the franchise en account of Ins. bat he id not agree to this bill. He could not Burnet of their friend., they would have adopted a different ou n iy ' that Peter should be robbed to pay Paul. (Laughter.) line of ceaduct altogether. The borough of St. Germain. ' a covered 50 acres, and the town of Caine covered 850 acres, Th e motion w a s the n so that the difference was very materiaL He concluded by O n the motion thain;greeetedteuWiimeent, stand pest of oche. amidst cries of question, du Loni le A Mason and Lord POICHESTIIt severally protest justifying the bill. Mr. CHOKER explained, tysemlon I Mr. STANLEY said that the right hon. gentleman ha ed p ,„, egy : 4 7" . od ,: coo th o i Nt a h li Ne w sbot er p uough in g ail dise ir rito chi . selnat t and pronounced a sot gone into the question before the house, but accused the government of hang dishonestly departed from the line. ar id a ", g i ven in the ems of . the hon the ia t i_ ;: el d_inelni of Wi ll oh,___ b/ o t ho be He denied that the right hon. gentleman was borne out by h a d h am her f facts. The population of Coke exceeded two thousand, and the m ire a hand w npea the kftui ffir T. hilarannleir.wnltwilltillt exp elled the the population of St. Germaine only amounted to five bun- F l ee o f a vote wa s 20 N ableas. dread. He trusted that the fallacy of the right hon. gentle- Lad 11 - AHO --- iiilL the observstktes of the hon. and man's statement would not delude the committee. , learned gentleman an indecent personal attack. Mr. HUME boss out the truth of the statement mad, the bon. and learnetilmember for Kerry. After a few words from Mr. G'Cow NELL, boo Lm an d d ft l l ea l ed ON gen d u is e claim man an ed y all artn intention of giving t h, t The motion was then agreed to. On the motion that the borough of Yarmouth (I<k of Wight) stand part of the bill, • Sir H. WILLOUGHBY made a few remads ; af t ., which the motion was agreed to. The CHAIRMAN then put the question that the elau., stand part of the bill. Mr. PRAED objected to the motion, on accoun• t 6, lateness of the hour. The Chancellor of the EXCHEQUCR thought the ! T i n . ciple of the clause had been fully discussed, and unlit:. stood that no objection was to be raised to the motto-. Sir C. WETHERELL agreed in this. sir. PRAED said that many hon. members had olisms, dons to make upon the subject. Sir IL PEEL concurred that, on the motion upon th! word "each" the principle was fully discussed. lie ea.:, • not oppose the motion. Tke motion was then put, and carried without a d:vitior. The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again. The house resumed. and the reports of the committ:r o: supply and public were agreed to ; after which, the uthtt orders of the day having been disposed of, the hum..• at% journed at a QUARTER PAST Two. LIST of 27 who voted on Mr. HUNT'S Motion for rite lietketi. , of the Grant of 16,1821. to the Society for the Prcpagalio:. of the Gospel in Foreign Parts to 8,0001. with a ci co its entire discontinuance in 1832. Bennet, John Paget, Thomas [Hackney, W. Power, Robert Dawson, Alex. Shell, R. L. Dick. . Thicknesse, R. Dixon, Jos. Walker, C. A. Doyle, Sir J. M. Warburton, H. Modes, Hon T. Watson, Hon. R. Gordon, Robert Wilbraham, G. Grattan, James Wilke, John Ingilby, Sir W. A. Williams, Sir J. Knight, Robert Wood, John Lambert, Henry Wyse, Thomas Lambert, J. S. Mullins, F. W. Musgrave, Sir R. TELLIR. Henry hunt FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. DUTCH PAPERS RECEIVED THIS DAY. BRUSSELS, JULY 23.-4' We learn (sai, Courtier) from an authentic quarter the formatic:. of the King's Cabinet. M. de Mentenaeie, reign Affairs ; M. Osy, Finance ; M. Raikor.:, Justice ; M. Dufailly and M. Sauvage remain, the former Minister of War, the latter of the In terior." Accounts from the cities in the provinces an nounce that the day of his Majesty's inauguration was celebrated with great solemnity. We aro assured that the King has shosen Gen. Van Koekinbuig and Col. Fleury, superior OifiCef4 of the Civic Guard, to be his Aides-de-Camp. To-morrow, Sunday, his Majesty will review the bra -e Civic Guard and the garrison of rirns sels.—Brussels Papers, July 24. HOLLAND. A MSTERDA ar, July 24.—We have receives! the foUowing accounts from our squadron before Antwerp, dated the day before yesterday : Things remain here in the same state, and you may easily imagine the tiresome uniformity of w way of life here, N% hick may perhaps soon chan...e. We have received the news of the refusal of th,., King to accede to the 10 articles ; and as the: are incompatible with the dignity of the nation, I may say the refusal gives general satisfaction. Yesterday the accession of Leopold I. was cele brated at Antwerp : a salute of 101 guns announced at noon to the inhabitants of that city the begin. ning of his reign, and the end of their prosperity : it was a salute fired over the grave of their com merce : in fact, many of the citizens of Antwerp are convinced, that as far as they are concerned, this must be the result. If the illumination in the evening is to be considered as an indication of the joy of the inha bitants, it must be very small. About ten houses on the quay, which affords one of the places best adapted for such a display, were very scantily lighted up ; and if the illuminations in the city were on a similar scale, we might be led to infer that the inhabitants do not feel themselves particularly happy, in consequence of the choice made by the Congress. Tit e HAGUE, JULY 24.—His Majesty the King, with his Royal Highness the Prince of Orange, left this town on Friday morning early to visit the army. .1 he three sons of the Prince of Orange had set out some time before. The King and the Prince arrived at Breda at noon, and soon afterwards went with Prince Frederick to in spect the fortifications, after which they reviewe' the garrison, consisting of the militia of Breda, South Holland, and Gelderland, the artillery, &c. with whose appearance and discipline they were highly satisfied. On Saturday the King and the Princes, with a brilliant staff, rode to the camp. where they reviewed the Ist and 2d divisions of the army, some brigades of artillery, &c. The weather being extremely fine, there was a vast concourse of spectators from Breda and the neighbouring towns. The King having dined in the Camp, proceeded to Bois le Duc, where his Majesty will remain to morrow and till Monday morning, whence he will go to Eindhoven, inspect the troops there, return on Tuesday to Breda, and go on Wednesday to Ber gen-op-Zoom. Perhaps his Majesty may then go and visit the flotilla. BREDA, JULY 23.—Yesterday afforded us an agreeable, and at the same time most impressive solemnity. We will not pretend to anticipate the intentions of our Sovereign ; but we will also not dissemble, that it appeared to us from our own feel ings, and what we oliserved of the general impres sion, that this arrival of the king was the harbinger of the termination of our distressed situation, and of the beginning of an active and glorious future. It is not in times of prosperity that the ties of an intimate connection are driven closer ; times of care and suffering are better calculated to afford a touchstone of fidelity and attachment. Such times we have known ; they are not yet past: but the events of the last few days have thrown much light over the gloomy pic ture' and the appearance of those whose interest has been so intimately connected for ages with the prosperity of the country, in the midst of the defen ders of their independence, arises in the presage of s much brighter light. Many recollections replaced us in the most glorious period of the last 16 years a white plume reminded us of the most splendid victory of that period ; it seemed to wave as at Quaint Bras, and it is evident that many repeated with double zeal--" Forward," which has been already uttered. The moment is favourable; Holland has always given the most striking example of firmneds amidst the general commotion of the world ; perhaps there is reserved for this little spot, the g l or y which • I e st e e f P. 111 DT of I. to ill DU go an ye he of TT nu re. an Ire I a ich ;t ;