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begged pardon for deviating from the subject before the House ; but the two Billt hail been discussed to- gether by others, and,.acting as he had done, be had only followed the example set by others. He thought that the keeping people in their houses at night was only for their own good. The poor were not armed against the rich, but against each other; and to keep them from each bther, was the best measure that could be adopted for their good. For these reasons he should support the Bill. Mr. W. SMITH found himself in a dilemma as to the vote he should give upon this question. He be lieved the Insurrection Act to be in a great degree a measure of mercy—(Hearj. He thought also that the state of Ireland demanded it. But the powers which had formerly been placed in the hands of Go- vernment, had been sn abused, that he could not but hesitate at incurring the risk of a repetition of the events to which he alluded. In his opinion the In • temnity Act which followed them was an indelible stain upon the country. When he spoke of those Acts, and the abuse of power then displayed, he did not at all mean to implicate the present Irish Go vernment, or to say that any part of their conduct partook of his suspicions. He did not expect that any thing which could be done for Ireland would give her immediate relief. It must take the operation of a cen tury, under the liht and wisest management, to cure the evils of four or five centuries of misgovernment. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose to make one or two observations upon the impolicy of revert ing to the painful events and circumstances con nected with the It ish Rebellion, upon an occasion like the present. He could tell the Hon. Member that there was no abuse, or even exercise of the power entrusted to the Government, in the acts which were perpetrated at the time of the Rebellion, and which he should be the last to countenance or defend. They were not abuses of power, but acts of self-defence, although of a nature which al'. lived to deplore.— With regard to the Indemnity Act, he had the ho nour of being a Minister at the time it was brought in, and he was desirous of taking all the odium which attached to it upon himself. He should have been _ _ ashamed of himself, if, when he brought down a Bill for pardoning the Irish rebels for their acts of plun der, and murder, and rebellion, he had not also brought down an Act of Indemnity for MAgistrafts, who were compelled to resort, in self-defence, to measures of melancholy severity. The Act of In demnity was not applied to individual cases, but to the general state of Ireland. He would ask the Hon. Member what he would have thought of any Minis ter, who, after pardoning rebels and the disloyal, had left the Magistrates and those who opposed them un protected ?—( Hear, hear). Mr. DENNIS BROWN thought that the Insur rection Act ought to have been put in force by the House last year. With regard to what the Hon. Member (Mr. Smith) had said, as to the abuse of power during the Irish rebellion, the Noble Marquis had very properly described the character of those proceedings. Mr. S. RICE said, that measures which required Bills of Indemnity, should not only be disapproved of, but detested. At the same time, he thought it would be more adviseable not to refer to that melon- 'eholy period in the Irish history. The state of the Magistracy in Ireland, loudly called for amelioration, and he hoped to receive some information on that subject from the other side. He should wish to vest the power of taking bail, not in the Magistrates ge nerally, but in the King's Counsel, the Serjeant, or the As,istar.t Barrister; and he also wished to intro ,Auce a clause as to the appointment of Justices in t Towns and Cities, where, under the present Bill, the .County Magistrates could not act. General HARTE commented on the excess to 'which illicit distillation was carried in Ireland. Mr. PLUNKETT defended the clause in the Bill relative to the power of requiring bail. Mr. G. BENNET could not keep out of view what had been the effect of measures of severity in the sister country. In examining the question before the House, he was compelled to recur to the transactions of former times. In the course of the present Ses sion, with the exception of a grant of money, Parlia ment had done nothing for Ireland. Mr. GOULBURN concurred in the opinion, that the transactions in the Irish rebellion ought to be bu ried in oblivion. At the same time he would tell the House, that it was to prevent the recurrence of simi lar scenes that the present measure was required. 'The measure was only asked for because it was be lieved to be necessary for the safety of Ireland, He was not prepared to say that the Government of Ire land would put this Act in execution, even if it were passed by the House. Lord A. HAMILTON could not vote for the mea sures which his Majesty's Government had proposed for the Government of Ireland ; for they were at com plete variance with the Constitution of the land.— This measure was to Le voted too in a House in which ,he doubted whether there were ten Irish Members present. The measures invariably adopted with re spect to Ireland were only of a temporary, and not of a permanently tranquillizing character. The House had heard a speech from a Right Hon. Gentleman which it would not easily forget, in which he main tained that every disturbance in Ireland had resulted from some anterior measures of severity on the part of the Government. He believed that was the fact; and that none of those Bills would benefit Ireland. MI-. BUTTERWORTH believed the present mea sure to he necessary in consequence of the disturbed state of Ireland.—ltead a third time and passed. SUPPLY. Mr. GOULBURN moved, that the House should go into a Committee of Supply. Mr. HUME said, that last Session he had called the attention of the House to the immense sums levied on our commerce in Brazil by our Consul in that country. The Consul levied on our trade at least nine or ten thousand pounds a-year. In consequence cf this, the Noble Marquis wrote to forbid the Consul from taking such heavy fees; but in a week or two after, he sent another letter, desiring that he should continue his charges. In six years our Consuls in the , Brazil, made above 50,0001. 'This tax on British shipping and merchandize was a premium given to the Americans to carry off all the trade of the Bra zils from us. He called on the Noble Marquis to take Care of the interest of the British Government in the Brazils ; and he moved, that the large salaries of the Consuls in the Brazils were extravagant, and cugl.t to be reduced. • The Marquis of LONDONDERRY mid, he had before stated that new regulations for oar Consuls abroad were under the revision of our Board of Trade. He admitted that the facts stated by the Hon. Member were su ffi c i ent to requ i re investiga tion ; but the average amount of our Consul-Gene ran earnings was 7,0001. instead of 9,0001. a-year.— Besides, his income bad been reduced three times ; and, four or five years ago, the price of provisions was very high in the Brazils. Instructions had al ready been sent out to prevent any extravagant charges by our Consuls in the Brazils. He should lay all the correspondence on that subject before the House. He should, therefore, negative the motion, which he thought a very strong imputation, not only on the Consuls, but on the Government. Mr.A. BARING said, no such sums were granted to Consuls, or allowed to them in former years. Mr. HUAI E explained. The present differed from all other Consular cases, and had therefore no re ference to the proposed . general arrangements of the Noble Marquis. He (Mr. Hume) was already in pos. session of the correspondence, but it would afford the House no new information. lf, however, the Noble Marquis thought otherwise, he ought to have laid it on the table before. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said it was rather surprising if the Hon. Member was in posses sion of the correspondence-of his office—(Hear, hear, cad a laugh). If he had, he (the Marquis) would be glad to know how he got access to it? At all events, the House perhaps would not be inclined to take for granted the opinion of the Hon. Member as to the question whether the correspondence afforded infor mation or not? Mr. HUME said he had alluded only to the cor respondence between the Noble Marquis and the merchants. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said he had referred to the correspondence between himself and the Consuls. The Resolution was negatived without a division, after a short conversation between the Marquis of LONDONDERRY, Mr. BVIIIIIIT ) and Lord PA LMRRSTON. SCOTCH NATIONAL SIONUKSNT. Lord BINNING moved that the Petitions with respect to the National Monument in Scotland should be referred to the Committee. Mr. HUME strongly opposed the grant. The 10,0004. asked for the work in question would be much better employed if applied to the purposes for which it had been originally intended. Sir ROBERT WILSON did think it most unsea- sonable, and most indecent, to talk, in the present ', state of Ireland, of giving 10,0001. to build an orna mental temple. There seemed to be an opinion that the Chancellor of the Exchequer ought to act the part of Pericles; but it should be remembered that there was now no Phidias in the case. The Palle non bad been dedicated to Minerva: it was worth ccntsidering bow far the deeds to be commemorated by the Monument proposed were worthy of the espe cial protection of that goddess! Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS supported the grant. Mr. HUDSON GURNEY.—We have had discus sion night after night on the starving population of Ireland ; we have heard complaint after complaint, upon the general distress of all classes in England and Scotland ; and yet, after all this, we are cafled upon to give away £lO,OOO for the erection of a Church as part of a National Monument for Scotland I—(flear, l hear). The erection of the English Monuments has been put off sine die; and in my conscience I believe they never will be begun—(Hear, hear). They were voted in a moment of national effervescence, and there is now as much reluctance to complete, as there was formerly eagerness to propose them. Why, however, were they to be deferred, if £lO,OOO were to be granted to the erection of a National Monu mental Church in Scotland ?"—(Hear, hear). The Hon. Member said, that he had likewise another ob jection to the grant: £lOO,OOO had been voted for building Churches in Scotland, wherever the popula tion was too great for the existing Churches, or wherever the Churches were thinly scattered over the country. Now, in consequence of that vote, he thought it to be perfectly unjustifiable to grant £lO,OOO for the erection of a Church in Edinburgh, which was obviously intended more for the ornament of the town, than for the use, benefit, or instruction of its numer ous inhabitants—(Hear). Mr. MONCK opposed the grant. This magnifi cent temple, placed as it was on the top of a hill, might be good as an object to the inhabitants of Edin burgh, but was by no means so u a place of worship. He did not mean to dispute the propriety of Gentle men erecting such a monument of their gratitude out of their own pockets ; but he must object to wring ing the money out of the purses of a people who were already overburdened by the taxation inflicted upon them—(Hear, hear). Sir G. CLERK said, that the grounds of this grant appeared to him to be completely misunderstood. — This 10,0001. was wanted for the promotion of reli gious worship in Edinburgh—( Hear, and a langh). The situation in which it was to be erected was at once most centrical and most populous. He there fore trusted that Honourable Gentlemen would not object to going into the Committee to consider of the propriety of voting the sum in question to so laudable, an object—(Hear, hear). Mr. H. (jr. BENNET called the attention of duel House to a curious circular which he had received ' that evening, relating to the subject' in questio n. It ' was to the f ollowing effect : " The Subscribers earnestly request your attendance at the House of Commons on Monday evening next to vote for the I referring the Petition respecting the Nation al Monument in Scotland to the Committee of Supply." —He did not know who was the author of this cir cular, but this he would say of it, ,that it was a most novel and audacious proceeding—(Hear, hear). — When. he gave his consent to the vote of £lOO,OOO, for building Churches in Scotland, it was not with apy view of gratifying the citizens of Edinburgh in disir love for splendid buildins. If they wanted any web buildings, let them pay f or their erection out of their own pockets, and not out of those of the people of England—(Hearl.—He objected most strongly to this grant, though he Could not say that he was at all 4 astonished at its having been made , sinc e he had 1I seen how £5OOO of thitbstds of Greenwich Hospital I had been thrown away, in building a Church for 250 persons—(Hear, hear).—Taxed as the people of Eng land were at present, it was an act of gross indecency to add fnrther to their taxation for purposes like the prascnt—(icar).-19 a just cause be was certain that they would not grudge the paypent of any stun; but,' in a tin,' likb tbis o 'thiy thital k tight to objets 4041111 1 payment of a . single farthing..:.(Hear)e—.When the( Treasury was full, and the country flourishing, such . grants might be advisable . ; but now that the Exche. quer was empty, 'Mid Gentle Men not receiving inOre than One-tenth of their rents (llear)--it was unfair to tax the people of England, in, order to gratify the taste of the people of Bdinburgh--(Cheers). Mr. C. GRANT suggested to the Noble Mover of I this question to del* the 4 s -oer consideration of it till next Session. He was 2t itesetit of opinion that to grant 10,0001. for the erection of a splendid object in the city of Edinburgh, would be a gross misap plication of the public mosey.—(Hear,hear)..L.When he first heard of it, be could not help recollecting that there were several parishes in the Highlands full forty miles in extent, without a single church in them, and that the money would be better employed in building churches there than at-Edinburgh. He thought that the propriety of this grant ought to be submitted to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, especially as a question of a similar nature had formerly been placed under its consideration. In England, the money granted for the building of churches was issued to certain Commissioner, who were made responsible for the proper expenditure of it. He should wish to see a similar practice adopted towards Scotland: for why was money to be granted to that part of the island without any responsibility at all ?—(Hear, hear). Lord BINNING said, that if he had thought this vote calculated to take a single farthing from the starving Irish, he would have been the last man in the world to have proposed it. He contended that there was a great want of Churches in Edinburgh' and Leith, and, in proof of it, stated that though the , population of those two places had increased within a few years from 104,000 to 140,000, only one new Church, that of St. Gebrge, had been built for their instruction—(Hear). Sir W. WYNN thought 10,0001. much too large a sum to be expended in the manner now proposed. After a few words from Mr. T. WILSON and Mr. MAaERLY, who opposed the grant, and also from the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, Lord BINNING con sented-to withdraw his motion. MILITARY ESTIIIATICS. Lord PALMERSTON proposed a Resolution for granting the sum of 174,000/. for the disembodied Militia tor the year. Mr. HUME wished for some further information on the subject of this vote;- he considered the Staff as much too large. Lord PALMERSTON said, every possible check was imposed on the expenditure of the money granted by Pal liament ; and no precaution neglected to see it applied to the purpose for which it was voted. The vote was then agreed to, as was one for £116,758 for the disembodied Militia of Ireland.—Upon the vote for the Commissariat of 2180,988, Mr. HUME entered into a review of the military expenditure of Ireland, which he said had increased from £500,000 to £2,000,000. This subject ought to be fully inquired into ; and to enable Parliament to go fully-into the investigation, the House ought to have the details before them, and the subject should be brought forward at an earlier period of the Ses sion. He would now only hint that the office of Lord Lieutenant and the expenditure attached to it should be taken into consideration, if not as regarded the present Lord Lieutenant, at least with respect to his successor. He thought a great saving might be made if the Public Offices of England and Ireland were consolidated. Mr. GOULBURN said the Exchequers had been consolidated. As to the expenditure of the Lord Lieutenant, he should 6e happy to meet the Hon. Gentleman upon it at any time. After a few words in reply from Mr. Holz, the vote was agreed to. £122,782 for the Barrack Department of Ireland. Mr. HUME complained of the enormous expenditure under this head. The repairs of permanent Barracks for the year was 50,0004 and of temporary Barracks 10,0001. This was a most extravagant charge for repairs of Barracks only. In a time of peace, the charge for Barrack-masters was 15,0001. In justice to the country, he could not vote for this grant without inquiry. Mr. GOULBURN said, the state of Ireland required that this establishment should be kept up. It was maintained with the greatest - economy. Mr. S. RICE said, in Derry, where there had been no dis turbance, he found 11 barracks and 11 barrack -masters; whilst in Limerick, which had been in insurrection, only two barracks were to be found. This system wanted revision.—The vote was then agreed to. £19,000 for the Dublin House of Industry. £5OOO for t►e Lunatic Asylum. Several other Resolutions were disposed of. The House re sumed ; the Chairman reported progress, and obtained cave to sit again on Wednesday. The other Orders were gone through, and the House adjourned. DEFEAT OF THE SPANISH MUTINOUS GUARDS. MADRID, JULY 7. 111014 Tllll UNIFESLIL, JULY 8. When at the conclusion of our article last night we said that the violent state of Madrid could not last long, the battalions of the rebel Guards had al• resdy fo med a plan for fulfilling our prophecy.— They ascribed to weakness the peace which we left them to enjoy. The protestations which they made, and the capitulation which they proposed, were in tended to lull us asleep, and to inspire us with confi dence. They meditated projects of vengeance, and endeavoured to dip, in the blood of their brothers, the chains they prepared for us. But HILAVIN has disconcerted their wicked plans, and the slaves have received the punishMent due to their perjury. At three o'clock in the morning the battalions of the Guard who had encamped in the Prado, penetrated into the capital, throwing down the gate of Conde Duque. This plan, as it appears, wa. to form them selves in three divisions, one of which was to attack the park of artillery ; another to disarm the National Militia, which had encamped in the square of the Constitution ; and the third to take possession of the Puerta del Sol, and to guard the streets which led to it. Of these projects, the only One they succeeded in executing was the third. The battalion destined to attack the park of artil lery dispersed without any known motive on hearing the first firing in the street dr Is Luna, and the ex hortations of their OfficerS was it no avail to retain the soldiers, who, retreating, as it appears, by the way they had entered, dispersed in disorder by the wood of Moncloa.- Many of them have, attempted, in: the course of 4110 dant° join their cool:4410ns at the] . Palau a and some of them have been killed without object 'ln this dispersion, the Meer D. Lewis Mon was taken, who seeing) i melt detained by a peasant, offered twelve pieces if gold and his Watch to be .released, but the disinterested .patriOt conducted him to the park of artillery. It must be contested, that the dimion which attaeked.tfe chewed more firmness, but. it encountered entitle's* worthy, not only of contending with it, but wiik the first soldiers in Europe. • The rebels paid dear* for their audacity, dying by the hands of the heroit imp tional militia, at the foot of the guns. They had no other resource but to retire towards the Palace, strew. ing the streets the whole way with their dead bodies. The mad presumption of two divisions being thus punished, nothing remained but to dislodge that which occupied the Puerta del Sol, the guard of which had fortified itself in the Casa de COMO% when it observed the enormous inequality of itsforee. This enterprise succeeded as desired, and in a short. time the insurgents threw down their arms, and fled lin frightful disorder by the streets del Carmen, des Preciados, and del Arenal, avoiding the death which threatened them from a cannon supported by pens diers and sharpshooters, together with a party of ca valry under the command of General Ballasteros. In the meantime, the loyal guards who were in the park of artillery possessed themselves of the stables, .and fortified themselves in them, so that the patriotic sol diers occupied all the approaches to the Palace. While things were in this state, a deputation from the battalions of the guard proceeded to the Hall of the Cortes, where te Permanent Deputation had assembled, in company with certain members of the City Corporations, declaring that the guards were ready to surrender their arms ' ,but that they should be permitted to do so when they were beyond the precincts of the Palace. It appears the answer was, that at the end of four hours the two battalions which had remained in the Palace should retire with their arms—the one to Leganes, and the other to Vicalvaro; and that the battalions of the Prado, who had fled hither, should form tents, and should retire withou t arms to their destined quarters. Then it was seen, that although the contagion which had spread among the corps of the Guards was great, there were many who joined on compulsion and' by an ill-understood sense of honour, the party of the seducers ; for many of them immediately deserted their ,companions, and repaired to their quarters, shouting for the Constitution.— Others, distrusting, doubtless, the generosity of their conquerors, or accused by their consciences fur past crimes, fled, throwing away their arms. But some parties of cavalry, the National Militia, and some pieces of artillery, pursued the fugitives on the road to Estremadura, and at present there are ar riving a great number of wounded and prisoners. The most complete tranquillity now reigns in the capital. All who have witnessed the attacks of this morn ing, agree that never troops of the line fought with more order or more bravery than the Militia. We have not been able as yet to ascertain how many dead and wounded there have been in the different en counters; but the highest estimate does not make the number of Militia killed to amount to half a dozen— a loss extremely small, considering the importance of the victory, but deeply to be deplored, when we re flect that this force is composed of proprietors of land, merchants, respectable artisans, and fathers of fami lies, who sacrificed themselves to defend our liberties. The Imparcial and the Espedador each giye ac counts of the same transaction, not differing mate rially from the above. The former adds, that, ac cording to the most authentic reports, the Guards lost 100 men, of whom between 25 and 80 were killed. When the mutinous Guards had been dispersed, the Permanent Deputation of the Cortes sent a message to the King, demanding that the four battalions which had been the most active should be disarmed; to which the King rather reluctantly agreed. The folloiving further details are from the Etpedit• dor, the Editor of which says, that he was a spectatdr, with arms in his hands, and that he was “ worn out with glory and fatigue": " When this measure was about to be carried into effect, the battalions of the guards who were condeutued to surrender their arms took to flight, some by the Campo del Moro, and others by the gate of Segovia, in the direction of the Yentas de Alcorcoe. Immediately two pieces of artillery, a battalion of militia, two squadrons of cavalry, and a battalion of officers, under the com mand of Don Evirists San Miguel, were dispatched in pursuit of them. It is now ten o'clock at night, and more than a third, part of the fugitive guards have entered as prisoners. " The wounded and prisoners belonging to the liberticide faction, who endeavoured to create a horrible day of mowing for Madrid, and of everlasting affliction far all Spain, have been treated by the conquerors with a generosity and compassion as worthy of the men who love freedom, as disregarded by the wretched slaves who fight for the vile gains with which theie blood is bought, and which covers them with opprobrium and The" The conduct of the brave National Militia, of the no less gallant Regiments of the garrison, and of the Artillery, has been above all praise. The pliant Genetals Morillo and Ballasteros exhibited a valour and enthusiasm of which they have often given proofs in the field of battle. The moment the latter presented himself in front of the troops, to direct the attack which was made an the Puerta del Sol, he inspired such enthusiasm by Ms presence as would have been enough to overcome a whole army. • We should extend this article to too great a length if we were to enumerate the distinguished actions of which we have been witnesses ; but we cannot pass over without notice the gal lantry of Colonel Scoane, who, being placed in front of a com pany of grenadiers in the street Arenal, showed such an excess of bravery, that be advanced upon the mutineers till their bayonets touched the chest of his horse, and he fell dead with the effect of five .Mots. It would have appeared a miracle had this brave Officer escaped with his life from such a danger. The Spanish Washington, General Riego, and the gallant and patriotic Airs, animated the friends of freedom with their presence. 0 To-morrow, when less fatiguedowe shall be able to give more ample details to our readers. " Our subscribers must not be surprised that to-day our pub lication has made its appearance excessively late, and that the number contains only half a sheet. This has been a campaign- day, and no person in our office, from the director of the press down to the printer's devil, could be restrained from taking their muskets, and going to join the ranks of the defenders of liberty. Our failure having so noble an origin, we anticipate an acquittal from our readers. " Venous Patriots have assured us, and we have no reason to doubt their word, that they saw the Duke del Infanta& ea ebb% a numerous group of peasants in the Yiedilas, with cries of Long live the aloolute ring f Leos he. Behests ! Cameral Ballasteros, who bad notice of the sedition which the Duke was orisaising in that quarter, flew to the point with a company o f wine a t and andb refuge irrintheadympvroalacemereent7adisperib: d or Royal seminaries, we hope he will receive his deserts. but as thhowe t re he lare h li o k rd ite L n ot r ia . vaga dme w Duke A fall of earn lately .vsi'ed, to the depth of seversl els, ti e Nommen% to the Par" of Vont*, in Norway, Is who were there at the time and all asleep, for it was CZE isara happ ily s aved, but a great many cattle perished; • jig. oar two remain standing. , 1 1 I I i 4' I . I. st . 1 I _al 'l7