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... • . the !loose of Lords ; if so, whether any steps bail ► :o..pted in consequence. LORD A DV't tC ATS 'replied, that he had heard ▪ procession being intended ; if any danger were appre hemlcd, doubtless the proper authorities would interfere, and rA,- the requisite precautions for the preservation of the r ook ivps , r. HUM eobserved that there had been a procession of t?. at Glasgow, to mark their sense of the • n: was monstrous that persons could not meet + t+Pacenhle mariner to' express their opinion on great u•l'e question!. (Hear.) 0 t the notion of Sir 0. CLERK. the order was dis- N.7td foe the at!endance of the Sheriff of Lincolnshire, re von rt turn to the Great Grimsby writ, it ap t- H.: that ;he :May was with the returning officLr. • BELGIum• Marquis of CHANDOS asked whether the govern err, r rcolltl olvicet to produce Lenpo!ers letter to France, rl timin -the all n: French troops ? Lord ALTHORP rerlied, that the government could not row undertake to produce it. The Marquis of CHA NDOS said, on Suurday he would Er rive for its p selection. I.^rd STORNIONT renewed icquiries respecting Bel- Rion—whether the Frincit troops were likely to be with drawn ? If so. when? If not, whether the troops were to he considered those of France or of the Conference? Lord ALTHORP said. as matter of prudence, he must decline answering these questions. (Hear.) EMANCIPATION OP stA7£s. Mr. BURGE inquired whether any provision was made for those Crown slaves about to be emancipated at Antigua, Demerara, Ikrhice. &e. Lord HOWICK answered in the affirmative. No appre hensions were to be dreaded from this emancipation ; 371 negroes had been emancipated at Antigua, and they had conducted themselves is the mast exemplary manner, (cheers) then was there any dread to be entertained respecting Si cre ole% ? ( Hear.) Those moles had cost the country upwards of 4001 ; they and the negmel upwards of 6,0001. That experce would now be spared. A similar course would be pursued respecting the Crown slaves in Demerara and Anti ppm : and of the conduct of those parties several authorities spoke most highly. They were prepared for a state of free r!om ; they were imiustrious, skilful. and educated; and the govirmitent held, that when they were prepared for free dent no right existed to keep them any larger in slavery.— (Hear, hear.) NIL II U U R was rejoiced at what the g, vernment bad Anne ; ten years ago he had stated and proved that these .Lees were capable of maintaining themselves, and of con. dociieg theri•eives properly. Lord 110 W ICK, in reply to sonic oh creation from Mr. 11nrge. stated, that if any expense rooked in taking due ere of to he emancipated, the expense would 1,.11 on tne cionm and rot on the colonies. ntronav BILL hlus.2 then again resolved into committee on the re rig bill. . . Lord .4 LTil 0 it P, previously to the first quocion being ru 7 . said, it a - ss lhtetaled to adhere to the proposition that treeh. Pees in to .vns a::t1 boroughs should vote ter the county. It would hot ha right to deprive them of their vote, and yet , to retain the votes for certain towns would be to imroduce the votes of hon-r,sidentn, which it was a great object of the , bill to destroy. iliac right 4 for lives in towns would be pee. • . ,rrv..tl on condition of their being resident. His lordship , retmioned that wi h regard to votes for couhties, it was the . i:.tention to prtv.rnt annuitants front voting for less than 101. ' a rear. The to jeer of this was to limit the creation of 40g. toter.. lie eta:eluded with moving the lath clause. 4ir C. WETHERELL complained of further alterations bring introduced imn this clause • Lord ALTIIORP said there was rot one word altered in this clause. Tice alteration at which he had hinted referred to vo•es for coon ies ; and he had mendoned it, to give the esrl:eat intimation teepectieg what ass contemplated regard- big annuitant*. Colonel DAV IS said he must oppose this clause. He did ' • P 2 reluctantly, because he had been most anxious to see an efficient hform 1,.11 Ile had taken very little part in the debates, bec.:u-e he would not be a party to throning any obstacle in the way of the bill; and rather than be a Ivry to obstructions, he had even voted for what he did not altogether approve. The bill, he must confess, was not by any means complete ; and he regretted that the nettistert ht.(' rot used the leisure of the recess to sepa. • rate from the hid much of that baser matter with which it IMP at present ntix.d. But, as regarded this clause, he: • could no longer vete with the Ministers ; a sense of duty compelled hint to oppose this clause. ( Hear.) He regretted tut he was obliged to do so ; but he had no means, con *latently wi h duty, of pursuing any other course than that! • which he now proposed to himself. If this clause were care vied, the heel:olden of large towns would, in many cases, carry the county elections ; what, then, would became of the (counties ? li was one that, he was persuaded, would give • very great satisfaction, and would not realize the avowed j • objects of the m Oaten+ and the advocates of the bill. The j • large towns would, in some instances, in reality swamp the county elections; and in other cases, the requisite number • or ten.pound ItJuses could trot be found for towns, except by going seven. ten, and twenty miles from the towns; and • how would that affect the counties, especially agricultural counties i Would it not most materially diminish the county constituency in some instances, and in others, where there was such a place as Birmingham, would rot that accession overwhelm the cowl y electors, namely, those who were re. sident in the counties ? He should propose to remedy the evil in some drgrt c, by al:erirg the 24th and 25th clauses, by empowering the Cotninissienets to make up the slumber • art MO houses within seven miles of the towns. Sonic wm.ld urge him to let ti.ia defect pass, and to correct it lu:tenter ; but weru thry quite sure they should hate the opportunity ? And if it were sent with such &firms to an- ntior place, would it nut afford the pretext for throwing it set altogether? If they did not get a good bill, he feasted they would revel have another opportunity ; he therefore im plored the h.lose to endtavour to makt the measure as perfect as possible. Lord A I.TH OR P admitted that it was desirable to make the bill as perfect as possible; hut he thought the opposi. lion to this clause of much too sweeping a character. It was tree freemen (ren.remelents) would be deprived of votes, while ninny lomeholders, who had not now votes, would have them ; but to having to go mere than seven miles to procure 300 householders id 101. he thoeght very few such romances would occur. But it inconvenience resulted from this, it woul.l be by no meats equal to the inconvenience of non-resident frezinen. (Ilear.)l lAs to the allusion to Bir mingham. ever) freeholder resident there already had a vote. , lint the d.nger of giving votes to freeholders in large towns, which towns were also to be represented, would be less than that tif allowing freeholders iu small towns to vale for the towns.—( Sir R. PEEL thought that tl:e right of voting in towns might he much more . simplified ; one general principle might be laid dean to apply to all towns. He was glad, however, that at last something like justice was to be done to those who had only been anxious w improve or remedy the defects of the bill, instead of having any desire to throw unfair obstacles in the way of the bill; the correctness of their suggestions was now in some degree admitted. Here' then was an answer to common councilmen and political unions, who threatened them with petitions and to overawe the house. Lord A LTHORP said he had never complained of the interruption being unfair. Sir it. PEEL was aware that the noble lord had not, but others had accused them of unfair delay ; and yet one clause (the 8:11) was obliged to be postponed, as it was not yet ready for discussion. There were now nineteen county towns; they were counties to all intents and purposes ; and he considered it would have been better to recognize them as counties It would be snore in accordance with the practices of the Constitution. The distinctness of these county loans had been constantly admitted, so that there would be more difficulty. The honourable baronet said it would have been more advantageous to have continued the right of voting to city counties, and not to have confored a double rsghr to the freeholds. The right of voting as householders had yaopetly been confined to residing householders, and, he thought it a bad thing that the right of voting should be extended to nomresidentiary freeholders. The lion, baronet went into a long disquisition on the general character of the bill, and censured ministers for the manner in which, he alleged, they had departed from their original principle. Toe sir...ration of admitting the votes of non-mident free. holders would completely overwhelm the proper constituency. In such a town as Manchester, for instance, it would add at least 4,000 voters. He regretted that so touch innovation should have already been made in the constitution, and be was assured that, instead of attempting to do more, they would find it rather adviseable to come nearer to the old in firming a new constitution. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL remarked, that many of the objections which had been made to the bill by those who' were friendly to its a ftsciples, had oviparous' in their I tier-ztosl in considering on particular joints, without aisenacias the vie* of the whole. The may occasions that were taken by the Hon. Gentlemen opposite to board of die efficacy of the valuable suggestions they had thrown out, be thought rather argued a penury of topics with them to speak upon. The Learned Gentlemen replied to the lengthy argo. ments of the Hon. Baronet, and contended for the murk%) of the provision in the attune that gave the vote for inhabit ancy to the town, and for property to the county. He said, that as so much value had been set by the Hon. Gentlemen opposite on usage end proscription. he would ask them If they thought that the privilege had b en abused In the city of Canterbury for instance, where freeholders had a vote for the county of Rent. He concluded with remarking, that if hon. gentlemen, whose minds were indecisive. saw that the arguments were nearly balanced. they caul.' not do better than to adopt the bill, because it was self-evident that a change must be made. The bill had been perm din such a way as at least to entitle it to a great degree of credit ; it had hceh prepared with great care and labour by those whc bad brought it forward, and he had no fear but it would carry the balance in its favour in that house, and they would at last be convinced that they could not do better titan to pass it. Colonel SIBTIIOIIPE said he had great difficulty in uti. deretanding the provisions of the bill. He would wish for one thing to know, whether a person having a vote by his tenant for the town. and one by himself for the county, would be called upon to pay county as well as city rates. Lord A LTHORP replied that the bill had no reference whatever to the regulation of rates or taxation, it merely re lated to the constituency. Mr. HOPE opposed the e!ause. He had not seen an thing at all in the Bill that entitled it to the weight which had been attached to it by the Learned Attorney-General, so as to make it the Polar star, by which they ought all to steer their opinions. Lord A LTHORP, in reply to a question from Sir E. Sugden, said that there was a clause already prepared which would make an alteration in the point to which he had al luded. If the freeholder possessed his own freehold. he would not then he entitled to vote for the county ; hut if he had his freehold 1. t, he then would, although his tenant *cult' not he deprived f his rote foe the county. Sir EDIV ARD SITtIDEN said, that his alteration of throwing the constituency of the towns into the small counties, was the greatest innovation that had yet been proposed ; it would tend to diminish that power of the aristocricy which the other 'provisions of the bill had given them. He instantied what would be the con. quence re:th such a place as the borough of Southwark, with the voters of that borough so qualified , being thrown into the county, they could only consider the county of Surrey a tleperdency on Soathwark, and they were cutting up root and branch the county constituency. Although many men were greeter reformers than him, he was as much opposed to nomination borou,!hs as any man, and he dissented from this provision because it would make small counties no better then nomination boroughs, so many tradesmen of slender means would be entitled to vote. But it was impossible that he could ultimately vote for this bill—for if he had made up his mind as regarded the English bill, he was still in ignorance in what manner the Scotch and Irish ?dem bees were to find their way into the House. He hoped the Noble Lord would confine the votes of freeholders of the chins counties of themselves, to the cities, and not throw them upon the counties at large. He reprobated the Bill as being fraught with contradictions, and the Ministers with being continually changing In their views; but this he said was to be expected of any man who attempted to alter the constitution of England, which had been proved by long experience to be the best that could be provided. Lord ALT HORP contended, that by the alteration the influence bad only been fairly balanced. He stated that the Report of the Commissioners should be laid upon the table of the House regarding the division of counties, and that it should not be considered final until declared so by the House. Sir C. WETHERELL said this was another most im portant change in the "unalterable" bill. The change de stroyed the principle of the bill. (Oh !) The report of the commissioners was to be submitted to a revisal, and there. fore the principle, which was, that the bill should be a final treasure, was destroyed. (Oh !) He contended that the persons which the clause rendered county voters, had rather a mercantile than an agricultural interest. They would exercise a great preponderance in the county elec tions. Litchfield alone contained 500 of these voters. The clause neutralized the effect of the division of counties in favour of the agriculturists. The noble lord's bonus to the landed interest was, .therefore, no bonus at all • his bonus was an lends frames. (Laughter.) Would th e freeholders in the districts which were to be re-annexed to the counties, have to pay the county rates and to form part of the county juries. burdens from which they had hitherto been exempt ? If so, they might prefer being left as they were. (Hear.) Mr. DA LRYMPLE said the effect of the clause on the county of Warwick would be, that if the line di viding the county passed between Coventry and Binning. ham, each of these places would return the two county members chosen in the district in which it was included. (Hear, hear.) Ile then alluded to the Birmingham Political Union, and said it had at present the power of returning all the county members. Lord A LTHORP said, in that case the hon. member should approve of the division of the county, foe it would restrict due Political Union to the return of two members.— (Hear.) The learned gentleman (Sir C. Wetherell) who had declaimed so much against the decisions of the commissioners being final, now taunted him (Lord Altborp) for not making them bnal. (Hear.) His taunts would never prevent him from yielding to reasonable suggestions. (Hear.) He de nied that the change affected the principle of the bill.— Ministers had always expressed regret at being obliged to have recourse to commissioners at all. (Hear, hear.) The alterstion would secure the better execution of the intentions and principles of the bill, affecting only the machinery by which they were to be brought into operation. ( Hear, hear.) The learned gentleman said, Litchfield would produce 500 freeholders. Now Litchfield contained only 240. (Hear.) This was a specimen of the learned gentleman's exaggera tions. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HOULDS WORTH said, the district of Devonshire, in which Exeter, hitherto a county of city, would be in. eluded, would contain, in consequence, more mercantile than agricultural constituents. After a few words from Mr. KEMP, Sir. E. DENISON thought the county of city voters had their interests more connected with the towns than with the counties, from which they had been so long separated. They would exercise a powerful influence in the county elec. tions. The town of Nottingham contained no less than 750 of these rotes, according to the report before the house, which did not, perhaps, contain them all, for the county of city votes were traudulsotly manufactured to a great ex tent. He should have preferred the clause being so modified as to make the county of city voters vote for both county and town. As it was, he must support the amendment. After a few words rom Sir E. SVGDZW, Colonel DAVIES replied. He could not agree with the honourable member (Mr. Denison) that an individual should have the double right of voting for county and town. lie should divide the house, giving notice, that when a mine quent clause came under consideration, he should move. that the freeholders in cites and boroughs should vote for the ' cities and boroughs. The Committee divided— For the Amendment .. 124 Against it ... . .. 164 Majority in favour of Ministers... 40 The CHAIRMAN rose to read clause 16, when—* Mr. DAVIES GILBERT gave notice of an amendment, the purport of which was not heard. After a fcw words front the CHAIRMAN, Sir H. PEEL, and Sir E. Suonzw, Lurd MILTON thought the subject to which the atten. tion of the house had been drawn by his Hun. Friend, was one of great importance, but a future stage of the bill would be the proper time for its consideration. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL stated that the clause would not affect the right of any freeholder ; but would give to copyholden of 101. value the same right of voting's now belonged to the freeholders of 40s. Sir E. SUDDEN said, under the bill there might be four tights of voting out of the same property. First, the free holder; secondly, the copyholder ; thirdly, the first lessee, who might vote in right of his interest, without possession, mid the subbase., who would have the right of voting in right of his possession. To this he could not consent. Wu the leaseholder, who had a lease of seven years expired all but a single day, to have the right of voting? To that also he should object. Sir JAMBS SCARLETT said, a person who took a lease for sixty ytars, at 101. a-year, the full value of the land, and sub-let it for 101. a-year, would have a vote under the bill, though he would have no ptodt front the land. Mr. FIiIiGLISON said. if such a clause were to be ap. piled to Scotland. he was confident It would give rise to such a creation of fictitious votes that he would rather have the representation of Scotland remain as It was. (lieu.) Sir C. WETIMIIIILL said, be should be very shot, for the WINN Was so very bad that short work must be made of It. ) It was intended that the dams should make the equal to the freeholder ; but lastoad of that k the leaseholder should go two steps where the tread/sr could obly go one. This was too absurd to be endmed. (Hear.) Mr. O'CONNELL said, it was quite common in Ire land for seven persons to vote out of the same freehold. (A laugh.) By the bill a leaseholder for two hundred years might make 140 voters under him; he might great a lease for 199 yam--that person might make a lease of 198 years, and so on down to a lease of 60 yearn, every one of whom would have a vote. A man who took a lease of WI. a-year of hind which was not worth five pence, would have a vote, not out of his profit, but out of his loss. (Hear.) Lord 31ILTON said, the hon. gentleman had been guilty of no exaggeration, he had not even put the Mt u strongly as he might. It was said that the farmers of England were in many instances paying their rents out of their capital, and he believed the fact. In that case, Instead of having five pence a year out of their land, they had nothing. He had no objection to the introduction of copyholders to the elective franchise ; but he did object to the introduction of the lease holder, which he thought would be open to great abuse. He approved of the bill generally, and should give it his sup port ; but he looked with distrust on the tendency of the bill to separate the people into classes ; by making the county members the representatives of agricultural interests only, and making the city and borough members the rep!esents tatives of trading interests only. He thought all interests ought to be amalgamated in the constituency, as well as la the representation in that house. (Hear.) The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the object of the clause was to preserve to the freeholders the same right of voting at elections they now possess—to give a vote to copy. holders of 101. a-year—to give the right of voting to the yeomanry of England, who held their forms by leases of seven years; and also to give the right to leaseholders of such long leases as gave then, au important interert in the land almost equal to that of the freeholder. lie could see no objection to tour ptraot s voting out of the same land, provided they had all sufficient interest. It might possibly turn out that the tenant who paid WI. a-year had a losing bargain ; but that could not generally or frequently be the case ; and lie knew no better criterion of the interest the t mint had in tile land titan the rent he paid. Hie impres riots was that the yeomanry of England were so independent in circumrtanees and in mind, as to be lit to be intrusted with the elective franchise. (Hear. hear.) S r R. PEEL thought such valid objections had been made to the clause that it must be reconsidered ; and if it was the noble lord's object to make the bill perfect, nothing could more conduce to that effect than for the noble lord to move an adjournment for three monle.r. He never said any thing with a more decided conviction of its utility. He did not blame the noble lord that the bill was not more perfect ; u hat was blameable was, that they were called on to vote the clauses of the bill without due consideration. He thought there would be great danger of the power given by the clause to make leasehold voters being abused, for the purpose of creating an election interest. It might, no doubt, be guarded against, but it required the most mature consideration. and again he called on the noble lord to glued= for it, and not bring on the bill without the consideration that was nects. eery. He implored the noble lord not to urge the bill with the haste it was now passing ; but by a long adjournment to afford the Government time for perfecting the bill, and the house time for it. consideration. Lord ALTHORP said, the suggestion of the right hon. gentleman was one of course with which he did not expect him to comply. (Hear, hear.) The clause required some alteration in the wording, to carry its intention fully into effect. Tne object was to give those persons interested in the land a right to vote out of that interest. No doubt it was possible that the original potboiler of one of the leases might have a vote wit►out having an interest in the land. It was, however, a must unlikely thing, and could be provided against without adjourning the Parliament. (Hear.) Mr. Serjeant WILDE said the Right Honourable Baronet had at length clearly stated the object of his sug gestions for the improvement of the Bill, which was to de feat the Bill altogether by an adjournment for three months. —(Hear, hear.) He thought nothing but a great spirit of conciliation could have made Ministers consent to make the concessions they had.elone.--(Hear, hear.) It was pro posed to make short work of the clause, and many clear end useful clauses might be got rid of in the same man ner. He thought there was nothing uncertain in the clause, though perhaps it might go farther than the Committee would approve. Sir JAMES SCARLETT said a few words in explana don. Mr. HUNT was glad to And his Majesty's ministers willing to admit such alterations in the bill as would pt rid of factious votes, without compromising its principle. Mr. O'CONNELL was of opinion, that a franchise of value over and above the rent of 101: would obviate the difficulty in the clause. After a conversation between Lord ALTHORP, Sir J. SC AR LETT, and Colonel SIBTHORPE, Colonel WOOD, after a few words, suggeated, as an amendment, that the blank be filled up with 401. instead of 101. Lord ALTHORP did not think the gallant colonel's sug gestion was one that could be adopted. Mr. TREVOR said he was sorry the gallant Colonel should have brought forward so Important a motion at that late hour ; if he were to divide the house on his amend meat, however, he (Mr. Trevor) would support it. Lord G. SOMERSET also said he would support the amendment, which, however, was immediately withdrawn by the proposer, and the ori ginal motion was put midi:erne& On the motion of Lord ALTHORP, the Chairman re pated progress, and obtained leave to sit again to-morrow (this day.) The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at two o'clock. FOREIUN LVTELLIGENCZ. FRANCE. From our own Correspondent. Plats, Atm. 16.—1 t appears to be the fixed determination of the French government not to withdraw the troops from Belgium till all the dif ferences between that country and Holland are definitely arranged. Many persons here seem to think that even that determination may give rise to bickerings, which may end in fighting. You will observe by the journals now sent that the Chamber of Deputies does not overflow with the milk of human kindness. Such a scene was enacted there yesterday, as had never before been ' witnessed in such an assembly. All but blows, indeed, was resorted to ; and, bad M. Casimir Prier acted up to his system, he certainly might hare sent for the national guard ; or at any rate, their renowned commander, the newly-appointed Marshal Count Lobau, to hare given the honour able deputies a shower bath, and cool their courage. The Seine . was quite handy for such an operation. Yesterday was the fate of Napoleon. You may suppose it was not much observed outwardly. Some few houses were illuminated, and one in the nue Montmartre had an eagle in coloured larnpe,flanked with the letter N. At this spot the Parisienne and the Marseilloise were chaunted. Several bouquets were deposited at the base of the column Vendome, and one old soldier threw over the rails his cross of the legion of honour, as a tribute to the memory of the Emperor, saying that now so many spies wore the signs of the brave, that be would sacrifice his to the manes of the great hero. The police did not interfere, and so, of course, there was no tumult. Letters from Vienna, according ft ;Ehtt Gazette er Augsburg, announce that the Ambassadors of France and England have addressed t 9 court. of Austria a note imaging 1111.414rePtillfrf Poland. Letters from Warsaw likewise state "Mit ' thi Government there had received positive iotelligenkel? that the Ambassadors of England aimi Fiance, bad made energetic representations to t h e. COM of Vienna, relative to the corps of Gen. Dwernicki. The following are the exact words of 'Martini Soek's important declaration regarding the with drawing of the French treepe from Belgium " Sem dente l'evansation El sera Menses elks use. H e'en sera pas deal de la none ; Messieurs, now attendrohe pour evacuer le territsire Beige, que les-ques tions poor ksquelles l'armis Nangais eat raise en mouse- Mint, mast tout-Malt dacid‘ea, et que nul danger ne nous menses dfsortnale es ati—(inarquee de sallesetien.") The intelligence from Italy describes that country as extremely discontented, and bordering on fresh insurrection—particularly at Modena. The am nesty of the papal government is proving a delu sion, and the prisons throughout all the Italian states are daily becoming more and more crowded with state prisoners. I remain Your e, &c. J. 1.. EXTRACTS FROM THE PARIS PAPERS. We announce with pleasure, on the authority of a private letter, that the enthusiasm of the Poles, their nationality and their spirit, are un abated. Warsaw is provided so as to support a three months' siege ; and the Polish army, 70,000 strong, having Warsaw for a point of strong de fence, is in a state to operate advantageously against the enemy, however great may be its force. —L' Avenir The Gazette de Prusse gives again extracts from the journals of Warsaw of the 29th of July. On the 21st, there was an affair near Zamosc, directed by the Russian General Kaissaroff. The enemy bad already commenced burning one of the faubourgs of the fortress ; but it was repulsed with loss. VIES IC.I, AUGUST 6.—Letters from Cracow of the 3d instant state, that the corps of Rudiger, 25,000 strong, had crossed the Vistula on the 28th of July, and immediately occupied Opataw and Ostrawce, but that ou the 31st of the same mouth General Itudiger re-crossed to the right bank cf the Vistula with the greatest part of his troops, leaving only 5000 men on the left bank. No en gagement had taken place up to the Ist of August. The cholera is spreading more and more upon this side of the Danebe, and the mortality to the East and at Ofau increases every day. This plague has appeared at Wieselbourg, 40 miles from Vienna; in these circumstances it is said that the Emperor will return immediately to Vienna, and that he intends occupying the Palace of Belvedere. Notwithstanding the danger of the cholera, it is supposed that the King of Hungary and Prince Charles intend going shortly to Milan. The report of the Prussian Gazette relative to the misunderstanding which was said to have existed between the commander-in-chief Skrzynecki and the government is unfounded. All the notables of Warsaw, thinking it advisable to collect every information respecting the situation of things, called together every person of influence, to tale the ne cessary measures to save the country from its ap parent danger, and calm the unfounded alarms so universally spread.—Augsburg Gazette. BERLIN, AUG. 1.-It is now quite certain that Field-Marshal Paskewitsch has instructions from his Government to negotiate with Poland. It would appear that those negotiations are to be opened under the walls of Warsaw. The condi tion will be that the Poles will retract their decree of exclusion against the house of Romanow. In return for which they will be allowed to choose a Vice-roy amongst themselves— Czartoriski or Rad , ziwil. BRESLAW, Aug. 2. The Polish army is ani mated with the best spirit. It will redouble its efforts in the struggle which is now upon the point of taking place, and will fight with the same in trepidity of which it has given so many proofs, and with the same ardour of despair. It will not be easy to take Warsaw by force ; to reduce the city by famine appears to be the project of Puke , witsch, but it will be a long operation which will engage France and England still more to inter fere, and which will facilitate the mediation of those powers. _ _ _ _ _ _ PETERSBURG, JULY 26.—An Imperial ukase has just been promulgated. It has been agreed upon, that in consequence of the extraordinary expenses necessary to the situation of things, and to facilitate the transactions of the Public Trea sury, the Council of State has ordered 30 mil lions of rubles in Bills of Exchange upon the Bank, to be put in circulation at 4 per Cent. in terest. In an Extraordinary Supplement of the same date, the report of the Commander-in-chief Paskewitsch to the Emperor states, that the pas sage of the Vistula was established near Osiek. Count Pahlen crossed it with the advanced guard, took advantageous positions, and pushed on as far as Sklivionki, where he met with a few mowers and armed peasants.— The advanced guard of the 6th corps of Infantry commanded by General Golovini, who is now at Siedlic, has beaten the country towards Praga, killed many, and taken three superior officers, six inferior, and 140 men, prisoners. He afterwards returned to Seidlic, with the loss of a few men.— In the Palatinate of Lublin, Rudiger's aidecamp is preparing to cross the Upper Vistula, and General Kaisaaroff has completely invested the fortress of Zamosc, with a part of the 3d corps of infantry under his command. The corps which has been pursuing Gielgud, is marching to join the army. On the departure of the report, the commander in-chief intended beginning operations. The following description of the last sitting of the Chamber of Deputies will be read with interest, and chews the Ministry may probably yet not be securely seated: The various amendments proposed by General Lafayette, and which expressed so feelingly the sympathies of the country for the cause of unhappy Poland, have been inhumanly rejected by the Ministry, and by the Ministerial adherents. Gen. Lafayette, that venerable man, so worthy of the respect and admiration of the whole world, was even received with indecent murmurs. The dissolved Chamber, listened at least in silence and with respect, to that good and great citizen. The indifference of a part of the present Chamber for so many virtues, is the basest ingratitude, and can only have birth in hearts frozen by fear. But every interest of the sitting soon came to concentrate itself in the stormy I scandal which marked its close. In preparing to vote on the amendment of M. Bignon, and after tbe President had declared the discussion eletmO v al. Casimir Perier mounted thr tribune, and clang to it in spite of the murmurs of a portion of the Chamber, who called for the close of ' the discussion. M. Casimer Perier, his face pale with rage, and with an imperious voice, cried that he had the right toepeek, in virtue of the article 43 of the charter, and that.bs amid speak. The noise then mdeuhiedh. 1i: imam a frightful tumult. M. ftetettelffstraselgied - tswards the the tribune, but seiiireitZttrd at once, and enconn ly rist M. , exchanged with bun Assuming words and gestures. The centres raised en muse, gcsticulating and 'bowing fists to the rest of the assembly, who answered 1,•- the same demonstrations. Confusion was at it s height, and worse than ever it had been seen the establishment of the representative system France. They cried from all parts to the Presiden t to be covered. But in spite of these exclarne. lions and the reputed ringing of the bell, lie cow." not contrive to re-establish order, and he was übiig t i to close the sitting. This inconceivably scandnkus sitting will resound through France. It will denot e the bitterness and the hatred of the parties whie., divide her. There is nothing more passionate than furious moderation. M. Casimir will with difficulty recover from the blow which this sitting has cciveL to him ; it is impossible to govern with a cli ff ratter so irritable, with manners so imperiets, and passions so prompt and unbounded. At the first occasion where it shall take fire, where it shall encounter any resistance, this scene of shame and scandal will be renewed. The opposition did well not to submit to this violence. Let M. Cali mir Perier embody and conduct his ministerial troop ; let him cause it to tremble from fear, by presenting to it the phantasmagoria of his tu mults, of his republic, and of his universal war: let him, in one word, fashion it to the yoki of despotism—well and good; but let him under stand that the opposition will not be drawn miserably under the scourge of his rage; aml that it will not barter over its prerogatives, which ere those of the country."—Courrier Francais. BRUSSELS PAPERS.-THIS DAY. BRUSSELS, Auc. 16.—The King has returned to our city ; unanimous acclamations welcomed him. The people comprehend that the King has kept his word ; that be has done his duty ; that he Iles gained his crown, while others did not know bow to gain their epaulettes. However great a passionist any cne may be, it mn t be acknowledged that wherever the King wit= at the bead of his troops, animating them by his courage and example, they nobly sustained the shock, not withstanding the formidable superiority of the enemy. Neither at Baulesena, nor at Louvain, did we sustain any defeat. If Louvain capitulated, it was because in the case of the entire cessation of hostilities, it was useless to expose that city to the horrors of a . bombardment. The deplorable incident which deranged all the plans of the King was the refusal (three times repeated), of the Ge neral-in-Chief of the army of the Meuse to execute superior orders, and the inconceivable rout which followed this refusal. Let us, boa ever, be just and remark, that in three preceding en counters, that General had the advantage. In the absence of men of great military talent we may say, in the want of military organization, it is the presence of the King that saved us from a com plete defeat. It is his presence that has saved the Belgic name. But for him the attempt just made by the King of Holland would have led either to the restoration or to the union with France, or to a kind of mixed state or partition. This is whet the Belgians, who are the friends of their country, must not forget the difficult trials which still await us. LouvAIN, Auo. 13.—1 n consequence of the convention concluded between his Royal Highness the Prince of Orange and Lieut.-General Billiard, the troops under the command of his Royal Highness will quit to-morrow, the 14th, their positions in Louvain and the environs, and will go the same day to occupy cantonments io the road of Tirlemont, and that or Dint Banter sew and St. Jooris. Vinge will be thejast village occupied by it on the side of Louvain. On the following days the route of his Royal Highway's army will continue towards St. Trond and Hasn't. Tongres is also occupied by his troops. The city of Louvain will be evacuated to-mor row, the 14th of August, at ten o'clock in the morning. His Royal Highness will leave his head quarters on the 14th and 15th at Tirlemont. By order of his Royal Highness the Prince of Orange, Commander-in-Chief of the Army, the Lieut. Gen. Chief of the General Staff, (Signed) Baron CONSTANT DE REBICQUE. ANTWIRP, Arm Liar 15—The consequences of the cessation of hostilities seem to unfold them selves. Since eleven o'clock in the morning the squadron has made a retrograde movement. The Proserpine corvette, the Echo brig, and eight or ten gun boats, which were anchored be fore the road of the Pipe de Tabac, have fallen down the river, the corvette to fort St. Maris, the brig to port Porte ; the gun boats are out of sight. LOUVAIN, Avo. 15.—The King, who came here yesterday evening, set out this afternoon for Brussels. Before his departure he visited the field of battle of the 13th. The French forces arrival here to-day from their head-quarters, with Marshal Gerard, and another French General, and im mediately proceeded to the hotel where King Leopold lodged. The King received the Princes and the persons who accompanied them with great cordiality, and kept them to break fast. At three o'clock the princes took leave of the King, and with Marshal Gerard and General Milliard set out for Wavre. The first regiment of Belgian infantry arrived here yesterday, at six o'clock. The Dutch all le's, however, before noon. Part of the French army has arrived lore, sad the environs, and another part near Tirlemont, which it will enter to-morrow, after the departure of the Dutcb. The Dutch, as they passed through Louvaitte, carried off 37 carriages, loaded with arms, amine inition, and military effects ; all these things will be claimed by the French army.— Brussels Papers, Aug. 17. BELGIUM AND HOLLAND. There has been a vague report or au autograph letter fawn the King of Prussia to Louis Philippe, assuring the Una that no treaty of mutual defence existed between Prunis and HoUand, and that the King of Prussia had nothing to do with the determination of King William to coma roct hostilities. We have reason to think that the movement of the Fretch and Dutch armies will be conducted upon the folloviori plan, seccodiag to the Convention : Heed...marten of the Marsh of the Dutch Dates. French Army. Army. Tidsousi 16 and 17 ... 18 sad 81. Tr0ad........... Hawk 20 .. Hasask. The Dutch reeolfe their wenn. Yesterday the Deka el Orleans and Neuman attend Louvain by the pie of Nanette. They came is a carriage with six hones, bat aaansuclad by es Anew. 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