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the Resolution which . . hid been just proposed. He con gratulated the Meeting upon the spirit which they had manifested, and he was sure they would all return home Well satisfied with their exertions—(Cheers). Mr. Alderman Woon returned thanks in behalf of the Corporation of L:mdon. It was a subject of pride to him to see so impoi cant a Meeting held in the City which he had the honour to represent. And he was sure the Meeting would feel true thanks to the Cor poration of London to-morrow, when they had learned what they had done to-day. They had just voted a most liberal sum to the Spaniards as well as to the Greeks; but the Meeting would be surprised to learn that this vote had been considered illegal, and they were threatened with all sorts of persecutions from the Law Officers of the Crown. However he felt confident, that if they lost their charter in so glorious a cause, they would not want a supply from the Ci tizens of London—(Cheers). Mr. Fa var.'. moved the 7th Resolution, which was seconded by Mr. KNOWLES. Mr. Hum E said, that he would not detain the Meet ing by expressing sentiments which had been so much better expressed by those who had preceded him.— ' Ile was, however, happy to be able to state, that sub-, scriptions, both of arms and money, were rapidly ad vancing. The Committee had received a letter from a Mr. Willer, a Gentleman who had a large flint manufactory, and this Gentleman had offered to sup ply fifey thousand musket and horse-pistol flints. He mentioned this that is might be known, that'from those who could not conveniently subscribe money, cmitributions in kind would be thankfully received. As had been remarked by an Honourable Friend of his, all the Spaniards wanted was arms. They had hands and hearts to use them —(C'heers).- -He should conclude by moving, in the absence of a Noble Lord, for whom that honour had been-intended, that the thanks of the Meeting be given to Lord William Ben tinck, for his kindness in accepting, and his ability in discharging, the duty of Chairman. General LONG seconded the motion, which he was sure would he carried unanimously --r Applause). Mr. FIUME shortly addressed the Meeting, and read a list of some subscriptions forwarded to him.—The Editor of the Slnt isews. ' ,aper being call e d f or , came f orwar d, an d rea d a letter which he received from Paris, inclosing him the first of a series of articles in favour of the French Government, to be inserted in the Sun, and fur which the writer promised him not only the first information, but a large pecuniary bribe—and he had no doubt some rapers had accepted the terms which he, however, indignantly spurned. The first remittance was promised to be sent immediately, and if the proceedings of this day did not pre vent its arrival, it should be added to the present subscription list —(Loud Cheers). The CHAIRMAN shortly returned thanks, and the Meeting ad journed at four o'clock. Ccurrtnent that neutrality should be tniletaired under the Pre set e me mstances of the country, yet, in the opirion of this yeet• g, it is thg bounden duty of Britons to manifest their ab b efr eticeof the Mustier: and violence of the Government of France, u w ell as their sympathy with the magnanimous and deeply-in s' r e d nation which is the object of that impious aggression. " Mi. AldermanWe mime N seconded the resolution. Mr.lliatee then presented himself, and was received w ith very general dieapproteation. Ho made.several ineffectual attempts to obtain a hearing. At length, when the murmurs and hissing had partially abated, hp said he had not come there to create a disturbance, although from some observations they had heard, it might have been supposed that that was his inten tion. *Sir James Mackintosh had said, that no fol lower of fortune should have copse into that room; bat he thought he might add, that no mats should be allowed to carry into that room his passions and his prejudices—(Loud Cries of (fir; off! Turn him out! A a accompanied with wry general hisses). The s peaker went on, amidst the indignation of the Meet jag, and said sometking about the Manchester mas sacre, and proposed some Resolutions about sending round a circular to the industrious classes of Eng land, requesting them to devote a certain portion of t h e ir year's labour to the cause of the Spaniards.— Elle proposition excited universal laughterll—How epr, it was put from the Chair; a few hands only, in the lower end of the room, were held up in its sup port; and at length Mr. Hunt left the hustings. The original Resolution was then put, and carried with acclamation. Mr. Honnouse next came forward, and after some preliminary observations, begged to impress. on the minds of the Meeting, that every man who came for ward with his (20 shillings provided a musket for *because of Spain—( ('heers). Whilst on this topic begged to mention a very interesting piece of in. telligeece he had received. Since he had come into the room he had received a letter from the workmen of a respectable pi airing-office in this City, sending all they could spare, one pound, and begging to let it be known to the Meeting that they were sincere fiends to the Spaaiards in their glorious career— (Neer:). He had received a similar communication from some artisans at the other end of the town, some journeymen shoe-makers, who had come for ward in entailer manner, and their subscriptions would arm fee men. In this conduct he had recognized that same spirit which had rendered this country so glo rious; but depend upon it our own interests are deeply engaged in the struggle; for did they suppose, that when liberty was driven to the shores of the mean, they would be anything mole than like the Captain in the romance, " the last to be devoured?" It had been said that the Government of France had resorted to every art against the Spaniards. As an iestance of this, he would just mention a single fact which had come to his knowledge, and had occurred to a Gentleman on his kit. The Editor of a respect able Evening Paper, the Sun, has received from an 464 Agent of the French Government a direct offer of a bribe, if he would advocate the cause of France—( Loud citeers)—a direct offer of a bribe, if he ' would advocate French instead of Spanish politics— (Cheers). This offer seas spurned with indignation, and the Editor had the manliness to come down to this noble and respectable Assembly, and expose the perfidy and baseness of the French Government— (Cheers). ft was not necessary for bins to say more than that the Resolution in his hand had reference to a national subceription, which would be an appeal to! all classes of English . people ; and he hoped they would not cease in their exertions until this great cause was steered into a safe and permanently secure barbour—(Cheers). The Hon. Gentleman concluded by proposing the following Resolution " That this Meeting do therefore invite all those of their fel betnuntrymen, of every class and station, who value the cause sffteedom and the rights of independent nations, forthwith to =tribute according to their respective means, to the subscrip. tea already commenced in behalf of the Spanish people." Mr. llonnoese then stated that the amount of the subscription already received amounted to PiveThou sand Pounds and upwards; and amongst the names, he could not forbear mentioning one act of liberality, which rendered the man an ornament and a pride to the country to which he belonged. His Honourable Friend (Mr. Lembton) had subscribed the sum of one thoesand pounds ! ( Loudokeering).—H is distinguished colleague, Sir Francis Burdett, who was prevented by indisposition from attending, had subscribed five buadted pounds!—(Cheering.) Mr. 11. G. BENNET read a letter which he had nceived from some tradesmen, expressing their de sire to add their humble mite to the great cause about which they were assembled. The Resolution was then carried unanimously. Lard ERSKINE next came forward, and was re. seised with applause. He said he had a Resolution to propose which gave him the greatest pleasure. It was a Resolution of thanks to the Lord Mayor, Al dermen, and Corporation of London, for the noble temple they had set to the other Corporations of the empire—(Cheers). It was wrong to suppose there was one cause of Greece .tnd another of Spain—they were one and the same. It was the struggle of des- Pothin against freedom and independence all over the world,—(Cheers). It appeared to him that the present state of Europe was more dreadful than, in looking over the page of history, he found the iva lion of the Roman empire by the barbarians. The Ro mans were then fit for slavery, but the modern Euro- Peen tyrants war against an improving world— (Cheers). They warred against the principles of free or for the purpose of establishing arbitrary power, which had already been grossly abused, and avowed to be confirmed by blood in the very person of him who was the greatest author of this abuse—(Cheers). Ile was glad his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hoblrouse) had hot been restrained by any feeling of delicacy from Inentioning the liberal donation of Mr. Lambton. It taw a noble offering to a noble cause; " and," said the Noble Lord, with great emphasis, " I pray GOD to bless him"—( L ou d and continu Ni cheering). In ad dition to his other valuable exertions, he has taken upon himself the dtities of our excellent countryman Pt Robert Wilson), 'who was completely identified with the illustrious cause of Spanish independence.— He should not trespass further upon the time of the Meeting, but conclude by proposing— " That the thants of this Meeting be given to the Lord Mayor A nkl _ laermen ° and Common Council City London , for , of the of the m- clampk they have set to the other Corporations of the "Idea, by aseisting t h e S pan i ar d s i n t h e pr e s e nt arduous con test for their rights, liberties, and independence." Mr. WRITRIEAD said , he could not content him- Ulf netts renrainMg silent upon the present occasion. Ile felt that he did himself high honour in seconding PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNE 13. This morning their Lordships proceeded with Appeals soon after ten o'clock. Counsel were called in the Appeal of " Archibald Stirling, of Hampden, v. Claud. Alexander, Esq. of Ballamyle," from the Court of Session ; wben Mr. Warren and • Mr. Adams were heard out for the appellant, and the Attorney-General was af terwards heard out for the respondent. Mr. BROWNS, Mr. NOLAN, Mr. JOHN AlAsmt, and others, brought up the Silk Manufacturers' Wages Act Repeal Bill, the Officers (Ireland) Compensation Bill ; and also the Masters and Servants' Bill, with their Lordships' Amendments, as agreed to by the other House. The two former Bits (in expectation of one of which numbers of 4pitalfields Weavers were collected round the outside of this House) were read a first time. The several Chartered Gas and Coke Companies, Bins were read a third time, passed, and messaged to the other House, The Irish Joint Tenancy Bill was read a third time and passed. Upon the motion of the LORD CHANCZLLOS, their Lordships now resumed the consideration of the Report on the Bill for " Amending the Laws respecting the Solemnisation of Mar riages in England." • The Noble and Learned Lord reminded the House that, upon a former night, he had agreed to produce some clause which should counteract the effects of fraudulent marriages in future, both by licenses and by the publication of banns. The particular portions of the Bill he had so endea voured to amend would be found at pages 9 and 10 of the printed Bill. lle had, in the first instance, to move, that this additional clause should be printed and taken into consideration on Monday. The proposed clause attempted to provide against false swearing in all marriages of persons who should be under the age of twenty-one years; and wherever the banns were proved not to have been duly published, it should be lawful for the Attorney-General, at the desire of the parents or guardians of such minors, to proceed by information; but within a given time, to sue for the forfeiture of estate or property so fraudu lently obtained in marriage, both in the Courts of Chancery and the Exchequer. It would be perceived by their Lordships that the principal alteration applied to extraordinary circumstances in such marriages. If the clause should be accepted, it would be requisite to arrange an affidavit which he would prepare ; but if, after all, the proposed clause should not be acceded to, no affida vit could be wanted. He would merely add, thatin offering the I present amendments to their Lordships, he did nothing more than discharge an official act, in deference to their wishes ; and, therefore, he wished it distinctly to be understood that he did not pledge himself as to the merits of the clause. The Earl of WESTMORELAND was, in some respects, not averse from the proposed clause; but it'never could take away the objection he entertained as to the principle of it.—This cor rectional clause was agrged to be printed, and taken into consi deration on Monday next. The Marquis oi LANSDOWN gave notice, that he should, in consequence of an intimation which was dropped by the Noble and Learned Lord upon the Woolsack last night, feel it incumbent to lay before the House, early in the next Session of Parliament, a Bill growing out of the measure le had proposed for enabling Dissenters f►om the Church of England tit solemnise their own marriages, thds placing them upon the same footing in that respect as the Jews and Quakers. 'He still hyped, on a future occasion, for the assistance of the Noble and Learned Lord upon the Woolsack, who seemed not disinclined to adopt more liberal views respecting a matter so interesting to such large bodies in the religious world. TOE PRISON LAWS RILL. The House then went into a Committee on the Pri son Laws Consolidation Bill. On the clause respecting the personal correction in prison, Lord SIDMOUTH moved, as an Amendment, that the punishment of personal correction be limited to convicted felons, or persons sentenced to hard labour. Lord DACRE wished to confine the punishment to convicted felons sentenced to hard labour. Lord SIDMOUTH stated, that none were so likely to be guilty of turbulence and insubordination inpri sons as felons, who, by their sentence, had to remaia a long time in prison. The object was, to prevent the infliction of corporal punishment for small offences, and to vest the power, not as formerly in the jailer, but in the Magistrate. The Marquis of LA/sISDOWN thought that cor poral punishment should only be had recourse to when every other had failed. In the case of felons sen tenced to hard labour proving refractory, personal correction might be necessary to carry the sentence into effect. In the case of boys the punishment might remain as it was. 1 of HARROWBY supported the clause: The Ear Ann which was carried without a division. The Bill was then Reported with Amendments, . .. c . band th e Report Was .orjeieti to be received on Tues- ' i nent at a ll , i t must be i lnderstooi to be at the desire 4.,-f tli daye—Adjourned. Ilouse alone. . • HOUSE. OF COMMONS Mr. C. EIUTCHMON ihaught his HOnourable Friers . . . might consent to a delay, in toinpliance witfi the detlared wing iletitlous were presented-from Belfast, against the Duty on . . .. . , . . Coals.—From the Woollen Manufacturers of Braelf4rd, against the i • Mr. HUME said, that Until the 'charges againii Chief' Barod Of the House. Bill respecting the Importation of Yarn. From the Kelp Manu• i O 'Grady were disproved, this „ruder ought not to t o allowed t 4 facturers of Donegal, praying for relief.—And from the Soap sit on the Bench ; and therefore the House ought to proceed I? Makers of London, against any alteration in the Duty on Baillb• I investigate the charges, in order to th e conv i ct io n or acuit:lll The Committee on the Poor Laws Amend ment Bill was post..l of the Chief Si ren .q pined to Friday next.— The Report on Gas lights referred to a Captain O'G RA BY 'felt very rormitleraho embarrassment in Committee.—The Report of the Committee on the Laws of : saying anything d id this subject but he must say, that if any rea; Merchants ordered to be printed, and taken into consideration , son was assigned fur delay, and it was theught sullicient 14 on Wednesday. . . Mr. HUSK ISSONT brought in a Bill fOr th e enc l osure of the House,_ be w o uld p ot oppose i t. Mr. S. RICE h a d d o o bj, ct i on to fii;tpope the . .,testltin ; bat Kew Green.--Read a first time. he would not pledge himself to bring it forward In the next Session: The Report of the St. Andrew', (Ifolbord) Tythes Bill was Mr. CA NN ING wai ready to go into the case; but nothing presented. ', Mr. MANNING brought in a Bill should induce hi m to ta k e up the Subject. to allow further ti me for Alr. ItICB— Well then, fir, l am rea d y to go - on , and I the completion of t h e L on d on D ocks.—Read a first time. ivillgo on.":—(Ilc hearr EA ULLA MMUS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIF.QU ER moved that the House should resolve itself into a Committee ott this Rill. Mr. BERNAL objected to the proposed alteration of the duties. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the re. duction in the duties on Darius took place last year, at the end of the Session, and when persons interested had pot an °Horn!. nity of stating their objections. The representations which had been made front all quarters with respect to the terrible distress that would fall on the manufacturers of kelp were such as ,he owned had a great influence on his mind. There were eighty or one hundred thousand persons concerned in the trade. lie owned he proposed the measure not on principle, but on thel ground of compassion for those persons. The reduction of the Salt Duties was of advantage to the Public at large, bin to those parsons was of great injury; they had therefore a fair claim on the justice and feeling of Parliament and the country. The Right Honourable Gentleman concluded by stating that his pro posal was that the duty oa. Ilarilla should he raised from five to eight guineas, to begin in January, 1824, and to continue fur five years, and moved a Resolution accordingly. Mr. DENISON said that this relief was to be afforded at the expense of another body of men, who kad embarked large capi tals on the faith of the Act of last Session. He trusted that time would be afforded to the 13arilla merchants to import what they had already contracted for. Mr. CAMPBELL contended that the passing of the Repeal of the Salt Tax was sufficient warning to the Barilla Manufac turers and dealers. Mr. CA LCRA FT supported the proposition. M. K. DOUGLAS wished the business to be postponed until next Session, in order to afford time for the full investigation of the subject. Lord A. HAMILTON supported the proposition. Mr. RICARDO said the proposition was against every prin ciple of trade. .tear, hear!) Alr. R. MAILTIN hoped the Hon. Gentleman. waauld not, proceed, when it seemed the wish of the House for pciitione meat of the question. Mr. CA LCR AFT was surprised that the Secretaty Cot fc.:. reign Affairs did feel himself absolved from bringing forwar charges made by a Government Commission against a hi g h legal Dignitary. He pr o t e s te d aga i nst any such doctrine; for tt were followed the seats of justice would be polluted, and Com missions of Inquiry would fall into contempt. Dr. LUSH' N GTON was not prepared to agree to any fura ther postponement of this question. Mr. BENNET observed, that his Majesty 'S Government were pursuing their usual system, that of endeavouring to shelter any tang that bad the appearance of criminality. Ile trusted, how ever, that their conduct on this subject would open the eyes of the peiaple, and shew them what kind of persons they were who would allow, year after year, such charges against a Judge t f the land to eels; without ben: determined: Mr. Secretary PEEL, with coatiderAle warmth, said, he should like to know at what period of the night the Honourable Gentlemen, who assumed so high a tone, can down, and ven tured to attack his Majesty's Government for conduct which h-d been fully explained. The Honourable Member having bee's absent during the whole discussion, and bring of necessity per fectly ignorant of what had taken place, tame into the House a 11 o'clock at night, and accused of a wish for postponement these who had said that they were ready to go on, and did not wish to throw any obstacle whatever in the way of inquiry—( Hear, hear). Ali the information that the Hon. Gentleman could have ob tained, must have been second hand, and was evi.ieudy erro neous. Having grossly neglected his own duty, the Honourable Member came down at that late hour, and talked of others compromising justice. ! The question on which the House were about to divide was the Motion of the Hon. Gentleman's Hon. and Learned Friend, the Member for Peterborough, for post ponement. How did'the Hon. Gentleman know how the Niem ben Mr. T. WILSON observed, that the kelp growers did not merit protection ; they liad produced a bad article, and yet the price of barilla and soap were to be raised with a view of bene being of his Majesty's Government intended to vote on that pro position? Only one of them, his Right Hon. Friend, the Presi dent of the Board of Controul, had expressed any orinica cm the subject—( Heat, hear, hear). Mr. J.P.G RA NT thought the kelp growers merited attention. Lord BINNING supported the proposition. The interests of 700 miles of coast were concerned in the proposition now be fore the House. Mr. DENMAN observed, that it eras very well to talk rf giving the Chief Baron the privilege of every subject; bet how could any decision of Par:lament, or any Act of Parliament, affect that object, when two Commiisions had gone forth against: . . Mr. MA RR YAT said, he should oppose alteration. M r. HUME opposed the proppsition as prejudicial to thepublic. Lord F. GOWER supported the Motion. The gallery was then cleared fur a division.—The numbers were, Ayes 100, Noes W.—House resumed ; report on Monday. VICTUALLING DEPARTMENT. Mr. DENMAN said, that on Tuesday next he should present a Petition from the Hon. Basil Cochrane, complaining of the Victualling Department. BEER TRADE. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wished to bring forward the Beer Duties Bill but finding that Mr. 'lna kisson was absent, he was proceeding to move another order, when considerable discussion took place, and the Order of the Day for the Beer Duties' Bill was moved. Mr. DENISON said, in compliance with the wishes of an important class of 'society, he particularly opposed such part of the Bill as affected the Small Beer Brewers. They were not to soak* the proposed Beer on their present premises; after all the capital they had expended they were required to build new pre mises for the Chancellor of the Excbequees experiment. The Brewers would submit to any penalty, even to that of transport ation, if this clause were taken out. He thought it would be better to let the business stand over till next Session; and then let the parties state their case before a Committee. But why not equalize the duty ? or why not impose it on Malt ? He moved as an amendment (the obnoxious clause being retained), that the Report be received this day six months. Mr. MA BRILLEY seconded the amendment. The Bill was most unfair, the clause particularly which had been noticed ; nothing more unfair could be proposed, and it was made a source of piolit to the Government. The whole of the laws required , a revision. The duty ought to be imposed on malt; and next Session he would propose the revision of those laws and duties. Mr. MOCK also supported the Amendment. The Bill gave . satisfaction to nobody. The property of Brewers and Publicans was disturbed without any advantage to the Public. The prin ciple of an intermediate duty on beer was good ; but the Beer Bill was so framed that it could nor be carried into effect with him? It was idle to say that he could sit on the judgment seat, looked up to with all the respect due to his character. Ile could not agree with his Honourable and Learned Friend below him, that Ministers were unfit persons to become prosecutors. He thought it a libel on that House to say so ; for although be con sidered its conduct on many occasions most unconstitutional, yet be would not hear the imputation cast, that any individual Mem ber would be influenced in his vote on sn grave a question, with out declaring his conviction to the contrary. He wished the dis cussion to be brought on this Session, tut not on that night. Mr. CANNING was afraid he was not strictly in order in rising again, but he wished-to declare against the doctrine of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, that Ministers were the proper persons to lead the prosecution against the Irish Chief heron. The Bill that had been introduced at the commencement of his late Majesty's reign practically controverted the Learned Gen tletnan's opinion, and the course pursued by Mr. Pitt in the case of Mr. Hastings, and by the Whigs in the ewe of Lord Melville, recognized his assertion. The Act of Parliamer.t he had aluded to had specially provided for the separation of Judges Cram the executive; and in this instance be and his colle-'guts would not run counter to the intention of that Act of Parliament. Mr. WILBERFORCE expressed a hope that the lion. Member for Limerick would postpone his motion. Mr. It iCE moied, that the 9th Report of the Commissioners of Inquiry in Ireland be consideted as read. Mr. SCA RLETT then moved, that the further consideration of this Report should be postponed until the next Session. On the SPEAKER putting the question, Mr. HUME rote and objected to it, and said he was sorry there should be any con 'nidance among the Members on both sides of the House. Mr. Se/mu-TT and Mr. C. HUTCHINSON disclaimed any con nivance whatever. Mr. HUME explained. Mr. W. WYNN was completely prepared to enter into the discussion. Mr. TAYLOR thought, that before the close of the R..ssiun, the Lord Chief Baron of Ireland should be either acvitted or condemned. benefit to society. The CHANCSLLOR. of the EXCHEQUEIj said, that the regulation for brewing nib beer .on distinct premises was neces sary to the effictual operation of the Bill. Many of the brewers of small beer were brewers of strong beer, and on a former occa sion, the imposition of an intermediate duty was found produc tive of great inconveniences. The object of this Bill was to have separate brewers of beer; to remove the clause would only be to strengthen the monopoly of the brewers. To alter the quantity from five to four barrels would be ruinous to the strong beer dealers. He hoped the Bill would be allowed to proceed, for, according to an he could hear, it would * productive of great advantage to the country. Mr. BERNAL said, he would prefer that the business should stand . over till Deja Session, in order that, in a Committee, one perfect and gem al measure might be proposed. • Alderman--C. SMITH was also in favour of the postpone ment till next Session, on the like ground. Mr. RICA Imo said, that this was a Bill, with the obnoxicus chaise, to confiscate the property of the Brewers. The brewing of the beer eta existing premises, if the experiment were tried for one. - year could not-be attended with any loss to the Revenue. Mr. V;ODEHOUSE agreed with alluast every Member who had spoken, as to the inefficiency of the measure. If it were an experiment, it was rather hard to require new Breweries, in the first instance, to be built—(Bear, hear). After some remarks from. Air. Maaarrre, &c. the House di vided on the Amendment.—The 'numbers were— For the Amendment - - 26 Against it - - - 32 • Majority against the Amendment —6 The Marquis of TITCH FIELD next moved that the Bill be recommitted, on which * House also divided—The num birs were— For recommitting the Bill - 26 Against it - - - 36 Majority against it - - —lO The Report was then agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time. Mr. BROUGHAM supposed, that having been ?bsent for about three hours, he was one of those who were charged ty the ltight Honourable Secretary with having grossly neglected their duty, and of wleme the Right Honourable Secretary said that they were not entitled to give an opinion on the subject. What was the difference between votirg and speaking? He who had no right to speak on a question, ought to have' no right to tote upon it. He was glad to hear this new doctrine. He hoped it would be consistently maintained. He hoped that in future they would not, during %many hours in the evening, see empty benches; see the brown and green colours so prevalent ; see, not Members sitting, but only places where Members might sit if they chose. He (Mr. Brougham) who was a Reformer, wished that all this might be changed. He thanked the Right Honour able Secretary for his tirade, high in tone as it would have been in any man; higher still as it appeared when contrasted with the Right Hon. Gentleman's usual suavity. But the fact was, that the Right Hon. Secretary thought, that for the first time in his life-he had some advantage over his Honourable Friend the Member for Shrewsbury—(Hear). But however that might be, theilight Honourable Gentleman, in purse!tig his fancied advantageOrad, like antler General., gone too far, and got into the adversary's fire. What was the fact with, regard to the con duct of Members of that House? At a certain bout of the even ing, at about half-past six, hoWever great the eloquence ef the speaker, and however Important the subject (tinleis, indeed, it related personally to any member of the Royal Family), the Members began gradually to leave their places; chiefly on the other side of the .House—less on bis.--.(A loud laugh).—By grees all went. Before seven o'clock the evacuation was com plete. It was the usage to pair off-. Sir F. OM M A NiiitY—" Yes; the Hon. and Learned Gen tleman paired oil with me this evening !"—( Roars of laughter from all parts of the House). Mr. BROUGHAM acknowledged the fact. Suitt was de way in Which Hon. Gentlemen demeaccd themsselves--(1 laugh); whatever might be the subj ec t, suc h w as un if orm l y t h e case. During the discussion upon that most momentous q..:es tion, the Orders in Council in 1812, there were not siaty Ate- •aty Arenn bets present. However, all that he rose • for was to protist against the tone which the Bight Hon. Gentleman had assumed towards his Hon. Friend. Mr: Secretary PEEL thought it impossible the Hon and Learned Gentleman, who seemed to have: been occupied in a pleasanter way than in doing his duty in that Heuer, could Lave heard the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury. He (Aft-. Feel) had not objected to the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury's evins is opinion on the motisn. What he had said was, and he sill maintained it, that it was extremely unjust and unfair en the part of the Hon. Gentleman to prefer an accusation against lila Majesty's Government without having any ground whatever for the charge. As to the tone of which the lion. and Lezrned Grn_ tlenian complained, it was the natural tune of a 'man whti flit himself and his friends unjustly accused. Mr. BENNET observed, that liati;g read the whole of the evidence taken before the Committee, and endeimourecT to mr.ke himself master of the subject, he felt himself Trite competent to speak on the question: . After a few words froth Mr. Gortenas, the CIIIANCELLOI pf the Exciixouna, Mr. Aexiscaostir, Mr. Pitt., and Mr. licit; it was agreed that the discussion or the subject should come on on Tuesday next, and commence at half past Lae o'clock. ' On the East India Mutiny nal being read a second t i me , Mr. FOIWES wished Kamm whether in this Ikß there was • , BARON O'GR ADY. Mr. BCARLETT proposed to Mr. Rice to postpone his mo tion respecting the conduct of the Chief Baron of Ireland until nu=t Sersion ; because there was not time in this to investigate the character and conduct of a great public functionary. Mr. 8. RICE said,all through the discussion be had expressed himself willing eithef to bring on his Resolutions, or to postpone them, as might be moot consistent with the honour and conve nience of the House. But the party most interested, had de precated delay, even for two or three days ; and as that was the case, he could not consent to anything which should subject him to a charge of injustice towards the party accused. Mr. Secretary CANNING agreed with his Honourable and Learned Friend as to the propriety of postponing the discussion. He would have proposed that the merits of the question should be postponed, but in that he had been anticipated by the Ho nourable and Learned Gentleman. He bad examined the ques tion, hod he was prepared to vote upon some of the propo4itioas of- the Hon. Gentleman; but there were others upon which, withcut further inquiry, he was not ,prepared to vote, and there 'Sere be thought it had better be postponed tin next Session. Mr. S. RICE could have had no objection to the postpone mg* of this question, if it bad not been long enough before the House already. Ste JOlth NEWPORT said, that if there was a postpone-