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. r • . • r a subsidiary force of :400,00) mat in times of peace as well as of war, and also a regular Mi litia army of 250;000,r. We 'might consider sour selves as abundantly * secure from arty attack of the ene my. Upon military principles, and from the best mi. litars opinions he had heard, it would he utterly im-• possible to bring a greater force than this to action in this' country ; and it must always be remembered that everyexpence, greater than theobject requires, was as much wasted. As to the armed peasantry, he had no idea in the world of their acting with effect against the enemy. There were very few countries in the world where a peasantry of that description was able to act with any effect. He did not think that this was a country where much could be expected from a force of that deseriptson. He relied, however, that with such a force as he had stated, the country would be abundantly strong enough to repel any attack. After . several general observations, his Lordship concluded by moving for leave to bring in a Bill to carry into effect the plan he had opened to the House. It was his intention to bring in a Bill to-morrow, that it might be printed, and lie in the hands of the Members dur ing the recess. Mr. YO RK,E approved of the plan of his Noble Friend ; he: wished however to suggest some ideas in order to perfect the 'plan so as to render it a complete barrier against the enemy in case of attack. If peace was to be obtained, it could only be, under the pre sent circumstances, by being prepared for war. The principal parts of the plan which met his concurrence were those which provided for filling up the vacan cies in the regular force with so large a number of men as 50,000, and ror raising a Militia force in those coun ties where the Volunteers were not kept tsp. He was aware of the objections to a large standing army, but it was the spirit of independence and sense of danger which reconciled the Country to the innovation made on the Constitution by the increase. The Right Ho nourable Gentleman suggested the necessity, nut to a good Regular Army, and of a stationary local Mi litia, that an intermediate force should be raised ap-• plicable to local and regular service—that while the local Militia 'should never be called out of their coun ties, except in cases of invasion, the 'intermediate corps should, as occasion might arise, serve either in Great Britain or Ireland. He thought we could not , proceed better in respect to our Military, than in• imi tating the French, who founded their system upott the Romans, the greatest nation ever known—they had a sort . of, National Guard, which were sedentary and moveable. He hoped this would be the last plan the Country would hear of, and that it would be perma nently settled. Mr. WINDHAM made soMe observations on what had fallen from the Right Honourable Gentle man. (Mr. Yorke)' with respect to- his• hopes of the present measure being the ,last of the kind the House should hear of. These remarks would more properly apply to those who came with• new propositions. Their language was, u why ' c ' annot we be unani mous?" The answer was 'very.easy—u why then, do not you come over to our opinion ?". The Right Ho nourable. Gentleman, who was so extremely anxious for a settled plan, had stated some half dozen ideas which would have the effect of making the Noble Lord's plan more complex. For• the present he should not go into a detailed examination of the plan, • which no doubt the Noble Lord and his friends thought a good one, and which indeed combined process on process, had wheels within wheels, but not the machinery necessary for deception. It was iiht a plan which the critics would call full of bustle Mid incident, full of stage effect, to keep the audience on the tiptoe : " Quod potent fieri per paueiora, " Non debit fieri per plum." Howe . = the means were complicated, the end was simple enough—(4 /aegis !I—The Noble Lord had two objects in view; first, to,provide a supply for the Regular Army, and next to meet the danger from a foreign foe. On the first object, the ' Noble Lord had been silent ; in fact the supply was provided to his hands before he came into office--the former Ad minFstration had rendered hini that service. ' The Noble Lord had done him the honour to say, that he (Mr. Windham) expected great virtue from the Training Act. The fact was, that all he expected from it was, that the men would enrol themselves.. - But it seemed that the present plan was to save the country from the dreadful effects of this Act, which was a sort of " raw-head and bloody bones" to the present Government—(A laugh).—ln order to do • that, this revue Act was to be made more mild, by engrafting on it measures of greater severity. Vas the Noble Lord aware of the danger of taking men a distance from home ? All ages would be corrupt. ed in their morals by being on permanent service in towns. If the Noble Lord would ask any sober resident Magistrate in the. country, he would find ' that the great objection to the system' of perma nent duty was, that the men's morals became corrupted. The Right Honourable Gentleman. then vindicated his own plan of defence, and . .ridiculed the idea of the Noble Lord's procuring men of military time, merely because they had been inspected, in red coats on a fine day on the parade. Such an idea was childish in the eatreme; it was like dressing out a ship pf the line in fine colours, for show, not for service. He must still retain his opinion, that the Volunteer system was a false one. He condemned the rage, the passion, the appetite, which Government upheld—of having s,)lciiers for life. Ministers, however, get patronage by it, while the plans of the last Achoinistratitat had not a single job in them; they had noticing in.fact in view but beneficial advantage to the country. With respect to the _Volunteer System, it was the .fmest fund for favour and enmity which Govcrnment.could have. They had 2000 Volunteer Serjeants employed on the recruiting, each man had WI. 'if he procured a recruit ; these '4OOO got about 600 men. Under the former plan, 400 officers were employed, who pro cured 200 G men, and 'gave security fox 401. This was proceeding by the rule of inverse proportion. • Those - l:erjeants, if they did not get men, got money 0-,-for they save no security, and pocketted it. this was hieing penny wise and pound foolish. Lord CASTLEREAGH and Mr..AVINDHAM minim* explained. . • Girieral RLY.TON contended, that the army was alieady sufficiently strusig . for the defence of time • kintclom. The gigh,t Homily/14e Gentleman, (Mt. . Windham), in hine!gard (sir his bantling, reminded m ctj the lamentation of Rachel weeping over her Laren, laugq Pee - Rig - lit Honourable Gm:. - - . than recommended anew to the notice of the House - . plan for perfecting men in the use of arms, by having camps in different stations in the country, and bringing into action every description of force. Leave' was then given to bring in the piA. sTiPs.NDTART CURATD,R I LL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he rose for the. purpose of moving for leave to bring in a Bill for making more effectual provision for. the maintenance of the Stipendiary Curates in England, 'He had the honour of bringing this ques tion-three 'times before the , consideration of Parlia ment. On the first, the ill was rejected by the Lords,. on account .Of a money clause which was at tachocl, to it', on the second, it was rejected the [ Commons, on account of an amendment which it re ceived in the Lords I and on the last, through the opposition of a Noble Lord, supported by the com manding eloquence of a late and much to be lamented ,Secretary of State (Mr. Fox), it was not suffered to go to a Committee in that House. Now, on all these pccasions, not one argument had ever been urged against, the principle of the Bill. He did not, there fore, consider these failures as sufficient to deter him from reverting to the subject. It was his wish that the Bill should be read a first and second time, be committed, and the blanks be filled up before the recess, upon an understanding that it should be re committed after, and the principle debased, if there were any objection to it. Lord PORCHESTER could not agree with the Right Honourable Gentleman drit such frequent re-. jections of the Bill were not. to be considered as proofs that the principle Ait was disapproved.. If he thought them an advantage, he hoped they might be continued to him, and that the Bill would be rejected a fourth time. He had on former occasions resisted it as un constitutional, and he would persevere in his opposi tion. It tended to vest the Bishops with a power ,contrary to the spirit of the English law, and from which there was no appeal. Even the King's supre macy v:as taken away by it. 1 Mr. BABINGTON spoke in favour of the Ball being brought in. Mr. CREEVEY objected to the Bill, though be agreed with Mr. Perceval, that a further provision ' , should be made for Curates, but not in the way this I Rill would provide fOr them. " Sir R. MILBANKE thought Curates should het provided for on a principle . of justice, and that the Rectors should pay them according to the value of -the living, for instance a fifth. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied to the several arguments, and contended that the debate ought to be delayed to a late stage of the Bill, that the blanks might , be filled up, and then printed, by, which Gentlemen would thoroughly nn-1 uerstand what the Bill was,.which he was certain was at .that time very much misunderstood. : 1 Mr. TIERNEY and Mr. WINDHAM were of opinion th a t the Bill should be printed immediately, and the second reading postponed till after the recess, during which time the House would have: time to consider' - . it. It was at length agreed that the Bill should be read a first and second time, and comtvitted to-morrow ; the blanks filled up, and printed, on the undertaking of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that after the re cess the Bill should be recommitted, and two tunities afforded to debate the• principle. DROITS OF THE ADMIRALTY. Mr. CREEVEY stated, that the returns made of the I)roits'of the Admiralty, were not by any means such as to answer the purpose of his Honourable Friend who moved for such account (Sir F. Burdett); and as that motion had been altered by the •Right Honourable Gentleman opposite, for the purpose of making it more effective, he trusted, they would not oppose the motion he had to propose, which was for " An account of theprcceeds of all Droits of the Admiralty re, eeived by his Majesty, either in right of his Crown, or in right of his Office of Lord High Admiral. " Also an account of the , proteeds in thebands of tkeDutch and Spanish Conunissinners." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER , and Mr. HLTSKISSON having advised the alteration in the wording of the Honourable Baronet's motion, expressed their assent to those just made by Mr Cree vey, and both were agreed to. ADJOURNMENT. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER informed the House, that he would move for an Adjournment, from to-mor row or Thursday, according to the state of business, until Tues day se'nnight. • MISCELLANEOUS. Mr. ROSE brought up the. report of the Committee on the Cotton Weavers' Petition, which was ordered to be printed. 'the Irish Recognizance Bill went through a• Committee; the report was received, and ordured'to be taken into further consi deration this day ; as was also the report of the Committee of Supply on the Irish Miscellaneous Grants. The Report of the Committee of Ways and Means was re ceived and agreed to; as were also the Irish Promissory Note,. the Irish Spirks, the Irish Glebe, and the Irish Tithes Bills. The further hearing of evidence on the Orders in Council was postponed to this day. A new Writ was ordered to be bitted for Sandwich, in the room of Admiral Rainier, deceased.—Adjourned.at :Vwo o'Clock this Morning. 'IIIE EVENING sTAR. LONDON. . • • WEDNESDAY.: APRIL 13. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. Comas, for money, 641—for account, 65“—Reduced 6441. Exchequer Bills, 4q. to (is. prom. We are at length enabled to communicate to our I readers authentic intelligence respetting the Rochefort Squadror: • All the accounts which have reached us through the medium of American Captains—all the statements which were so artfully inserted in the French Papers tespecting this Squadron having passed the -Streights, into the Mediterranean, appear to have been wholly without foundation.—The Rochefort Squa ' de on did not pass. the Streights, but directed their egarse for the ‘Vest Indies. • The Abraham, frgm St. I)orningin, arrived at Lan caster on Monday last, and has. the following intelli gelice Inserted in her I,og.'uloolt, by the Hon. G. A. Clipt*TpN, of his Majesty's brig ,Demerara, Mho had been, dispatched to Ocrinuda by Sir J. T. Dutiv ;count, off M'artinique; and was on his return to . the I.etward Islands. •• • • • ' • ca MOND4T, MARCH 14, I,AT. 30. LONG. 63. 41. sa On Monday, 7th inst, the Mullet schooner fell .., . .. . . . . . in A ith a French squadron, consiiting of six 'Si ll a the Line, one a three-decker , in lat. 31. N. l ong. 69. W. steering W. N. W. and kept company 'Kith them three hours." The above important intelligence, is fully believed at the Admiralty, and was put up at Lloyd's: Frum the latitude and longitude in which the French squA- 1 drop were seen, there can be little doubt that.they were going to the Chesapeake, and there, we hop 4 they will meet SirJorm DUCKWORTH, who left Dominica for St. Domingo on the 16th of February, and, in the event of his not finding the French at the latter-island, he would proceed direct for the Chesapeake, where he would probably arrive about the Bth of March. PRIVATE CORRESPONDENCE. " Banks of the Elbe. March 1. The expedition against Sweden appears to be for the present abandoned. On the 27th ult. the French and Spanish troops received notice, that - . though they ought, to hold themsekes in constant readiness to march, the expedition would not take place, - as was. intended, at the beginning of the pre sent month, but further orders froin Paris were. waited. fur. SOnse attribute this to the negociations which have lately taken place by expresses between Marshal Bernadotte and the Prince Royal. " The Swedish Consul, Gram, who hid been under arrest jfor some time at Copenhagen, has been sen tenced' to pay a fine of 3,000 rix-dollar3 for his im prudent conduct during the stay of the English ships of war there. A Merchant of the name of I.utkins has been sentenced to a fine of JOO, on .a similar charge. . • " We• have heard a report here from Elsinent, that 3000 men of the Hanoverian Legion, convojed by two'sail of the line and a frigate, in thirty-One trans ports, had landed . near Gottenburgh,, and that more troops were expected. There are now, it is said, four . English ships of the line, four f rigates, and some . Muller vessels, in the harbour of .Gottenbuigh ; and, according to some private letters, fifteen more British ships of the line, and a considerable body of British troops are speedily expected there. " The accounts brought from Sweden by travellers , are different. Some say, there are at Gottenburgh only one English ship of the line and five frigates : they admit, however, that between three and four thousand Hanoverians have been landed. Others say, that from three to seven sail of the line, and from five to seven frigates, are there. " Certain intelligence is said to have been received, t hat the English ships of the line and transports at Gottenburgh have . beeit. got through the Twinte port. It is also said that eight or ten of the late Danish gun boats are now completely fitted out, and remain in the Shears, or rock-shelves off Gottenburgh. " A very respectable commercial house in this part of Germany, has received advice from its correspon dent at Marseilles, that ever since the beginning of last month, all the carriages in the . South of France have been put in requisition, to convey provisions to Toulon, to victual and supply the fleet. . " A total change of Government seems to threaten Rome, where the French troops, it is. expected, will , 14eize the treasures of the Convents, in the same man ner-, as they did in Portugal. The French Generik Miollis, when he entered Rome, ordered cannon tool be planted before the Pope's Palace, but .un his Holiness expressing great turasiness, and making many complaints, they were removed.' " Accounts from Magdelaufg say, that the Em peror Napoleon, notwithstanding all the represents . dons made by the Deputies from that city, and even of the intercession of its new Syvereign, insists on the arrears of the war contribution being paid, threaten ing if they are not paid, to march 50,000 - men into the Duchy of Magdeburg, now the department Of the Elbe. The war contribution was in the whole 12,129,076 livres, and must be paid at stated times to a committee appointed fur that purpose by the King of Westphalia. - .. " Along the coasts of Norway there are now 21 sailing pilot-boats, which have a deck, and cannot be upset. Their structure is such tkat they can also carry short great guns. They have been intro. duced into use in • Norway. lty the Prince Royal for the security of navigation' ; twelve of them in the autumn of 1807, and winter of the same year, piloted I , into harbour 111 ships, all in stormy weather, with out the loss of a single man, which unfortunately is not often the case with open. pilot boats. " According to some private advice:, a great cons voy of provisions, bound to Corfu, has been taken by the English." The Wexford County .Election Committee decided yesterday morning that a Commission should pass for the examination of witnesses in Ireland ; this measure is said to have been carried by one vote, and that decisive vote is said to have been given by the Chair man, Earl Pnitcv. The Committee has of cOurse adjourned, to give time for adding the Icritten evi dence they ordered to be taken at Wexford. The warm and general impress for seamen which commenced on Fyiday night, and has ever since con tinued at all the ports, - has produced a large mutt ber of seamen to the navy.• in the impress, nu pro tections were regarded, and many of the coasting vessels, including even those engaged in the carriage. of fresh fish to the London market , were gripped of their crews. Iv consequence of this„ seveial.vessels which were about to sail with licenses, are detained. If is said that a Inge efinforcement is about to be sent to the Mediterranean, N..tuncAL INTELLIGENCE. ." GEORGAis.. . 11 . 111dUCtiOnS to the Comvanders of (Mr Ships of War and p e t vateers. ,Given at air Court at Wilidaor, the 1114. 7 April, in the Foriy.cight Year of Our Reign. “ Our Will and pleasure is, that you do not inter. ,rupt any Neutral Vessel, laden with Lumber and P. visi ons, and going to any of our Colonies, i s l ands, or Settlements, in the Wes/ Indies, or South Arn e , rica, to who*uoever • the Property may appear tv belong, and liciiwithsi t inding such Vessel may rot have regular Clearances and Documents on b oard; and io case any vessel shall be. met .with, and b e . her due course to the alledged port, of destination, an Indorserpent - shall be male oa ode or m ore the principal Papers of - such Vessel, spe c ifyi ng th e destinatitin alledged, and the place where the Vessel was so visited: • And in case any Vessel s o w en shall arrive and deliver her cargo at any of our C o l o . nips, Islands, br Settlements aforesaid, such Ve t . sel shall bt permitted to • receive her freight, a n d to depart, either in • ballast, or • with a n y goods that may be legally exported in such Vessel, and to proceed to • any unhlockaded Port, notwithstanding the present hostilities, or any future hostilities whi c h may take place ;. and a passport for Such pur ism shall be graneed to the Vessel by the Governor, or other p erson , jiaa . piag the Chief Civil Command la such' Colony, .Island,. or Settlement. "G. 4,4• • PLYMOUTH, APRIL 11. • .. • Came In- 1 41w Bellerophon, 74 guns, from the amend Met ; Plower, 1$ guns, from a cruise; Lord Ovine; fttA-Milltira, Minh vrines;liar this port and Lootioo.--Saikd the paw a t le cruise. • .• .. • PORTSMOUTH, APRIL a 4. • • . Arrived a eget of outward-bound vessels, from the Doilii4.4-- Salleallis Majesty's shipsVosbawk, Peacock, and Dapper, se eruize; also the Roebuck, Matthews, foe Africa—Wind : DEAL, APRIL lit. Sailed this morning his Majesty's ship Lightning, with them ward-bound, Ste. under convoy fur Porusnouth,--Whoi • FItO?AtLOYD'S LIST. GRAVRIEND, APRIL IM—Passed by—else Wight, Ford, h u h Malta; Lord Melville assil General Stout, from Bengal ; p Arundelliras St. Michael's; Venerable, Edwards, from so lim * . dorm ; Neptune, Doivne, from St. Crolz ; Lady Niko*, Wa g , from Limerick: Catharine, Davis; Helve, Cardas ; hoe, kw kin. ; sad Selina, Owen, front Co rk.—Salled—the Dispatch, hew man, for Limerick ; -Elizabeth, Bogie, fur Dublin ; Eam on? , Garnock, for liarbadoes ; Cato, Orten, for Tortola; Alas , RC fur Deascrata ; Ann, Mayne; and the Harriet, Ashby, far the Brazils. ord . er ie t u o te . : a a k n e t u -G po e n ne h ra i l m O se A lf i th as e sai co l n s un on an i d ri o d i t wa y next in his Majesty's ship Trident, for the Mediterranean, in Government received advices yesterday rooming from °Heligoland, stating, that a Danishiiue of battle ship, the only one we believe the Danes have, was take and destro) ed, on the 23cl of last month, of Seperu, or Severoe, a little island at the entrance of the Belt, by some of our strips. The numbers required for the regulars having re sitteprodmtoisesgottoo receive M ive ari a nes, and this very useful great augmentation by. lunteered from the Militia, the remainder :are now permitted this measure. The 25th and 65d, for the present; remain in gsf:; rison at Barbadues, which the 15th Regiment, it about to leave: ' . . Sir Anreiek WELLESLEY'S fine veteran regiment, . the 53d, have gone on the Expedition against Ma: villa, from . Whence an abundant harvest of print money is expected. - • Lord Ftriww.t.Ase's battalion of the West Yolk Militia, 1500 strong, g o to Dartmoor barracks. Lord:BO/USW:W:ea tine Regiment, the North De von, have marched into Weymouth, and occupied the barracks lately of the '2ii battalion of the 59d Regiment. The departure or this 'Regiment from Weymouth was much regretted by all ranks, they are 900 strong, and in the highest order. This is the regiment of Major General Aim /tenants, oneof the immortal- heroes of Egypt. The 'Fileshire Militia have marched into Fog Monkton; and relieved the Std battalion of the 89th • Regiment. • " Died, on Monday morning last, at his mansion at ROChinlptoll, BENJAMIN GOLISMID, Esq. who for many years past has laboured under a complication of disorders, of which the . principal was the gout.—Ow 'the morning above mentioned the malady suddenly seized his head and stomach at the same moment, which brought on a fit that in a short time effected his dissolution. • We understand that an acciden t has happened at the Lbcks in the Bristol Docks by the blowing up of a timber.dam ; no lives were lost, and it is supposed that the damage'will be about two or three thousand poimils. It will be no bad - .winding up to many 211 indivi dual, of the ensuing Easter Holiday s, that heWill have to rejoice, on the succeeding Tuesday, in the powek sion of a new and capital House from the City Lot :err—and this too at a much less cost than he might otherwise expend on a single excursion of holiday making, • - Yesterday Isaac Dawkrry was brought up at Bow street, Charged by 14Argaret.West tominitting a ylobrnt. assault and daring outrage upon her peso. It appeared, from evidence, the prisoner and others had forced the prosecutrix into the hay-loft of an ills• yard, near Lincoln's-inn-fields, where her master had sent her to order a chaise, and there committed the violence complained of. He was committed*. rrtl s ter examination. Mi.. MoucAN.—At late hour on Saturday night this plc kited Female was brought to Bow-street fn Tothillidds %Meisel! ; and, after undergoing sn examination bdat GRAIRAM, was discharged, the Prosecutors having thought fooP per to decline attending. Mrs. Morgan afterwards west 'OW t artly to 'radial-6 elds Bridewell, having found. her mciesomoila' tion so pleasant while she was a priooner, that she intends to ft* main on a visit with Mrs. York, the Tiordeis Lay ! if COR'N MAO.IC-LASE, AYHIL 13.—There again to-day a tolerable supplq of Wheat, with sere. rat fresh arrivals • second and inferior qualities give way in price—B arley supports our last quotatida — Malt - and Beans, of both sorts, vary but little --tom being large supplies of W hite Peas, in part from Swe den, causes a reduction in price this week of f 4ada ull 10s. pet quarter—the trade of Oats keeps its price— -1.210_ At ARMED. On &today the 10th, bv spesial licnce, st bighteo• ll !let Genital Meaty Frederick Campbell s to MO. Knox, S . V,t r _.. the Lee Lieutettssit-Colonel Kass of the Ist Resin'"" eaIUN Printed acid published by LETZL . Korr, lefteary Place. 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