Star. — London, England, 1817-08-22 00:00:00

At without success. Aft-r a lung pause, the Major was suffned to prozeed. He ageiii insisted on the neeet.,i y which extstrd fel suet resnintinits being come to by that Meeting, IS should mote not only that tt e) felt the ev,ls antler which t h e country 11 , 1! that they knew the cauvesof them. With tt.ii vii vf be had framed mitt Resolutions, which, if a:: ~p ;.4;sto:nity occurred, he had intended to more. He acc , .rdingly react four Resolunons, which went to n.cishe die distress complained of to tazation. cot. tuptii.n. and the went of a . Reiman in Parliament, without *lnch. they declared the plan of Mr. Owen cued not he adopted with any cLanee of success. Several Gentlemen attempted to address the Meet. but.could not obtain a hearing. Mr. lloweantr was at length permitted to speak. lie , tAt _.d the Major, w lin had just sat down, to have deicrierd Mr. Owtn to call for the opinion ut the Meeting od his Odin. Heals-flied that Mr. Owen had s tone so. That Gentleman had toly submitted ti. Orin the proprie:y • f relining it to a Committ:e, of which Mi(s. Cotwright w is to be a meiuber. Mr. Tit:KKR then came forward, and in a speech of considerable length . xptsed the errnrs to which the adoption of Mr. Owen's plan would had. The pre arm was altogether a political crestion, an 3 it had been tie..ted as such by Mr. Owen himself. He would say with the Poet— " Lit those teach others who thertulves crtc►i!" But to him it did not appear dist Mr. Owen excelled its what • . e aff,cted to teach. His plan would not pin duce sit or the advantages expected .from it, but wsiuld vial to a total disotganieation of society. Ae- Itoidoi # :. to Mr. Owen's plan. the Mortise of popula tion *veld be even WIC than the increase of subsis tence, that would, in the end, destroy the in wade,: effect ; the remedy would, in fact, ba worse' than the disease. It was intended by it to remove . 111.ril man all or many of those evils to which he is st.lii.:et as society is at present constituted, but? took horn him at the same time his greatest bootees of happiness. For what man of saintly was these, who,. however 'much he might have toiled in the CGUIW of the day, semi not solaced in the evening by . the cumt.nts, however• humble they might be, of his domestic • fire-.:i.le ?—(Lced .dmlcsus.)—Of this he would be debarred by the present plan; he could not, atter a certain ages have the society of his children, when their society was most endear ing. They would •be removed Irons his care, and the noblest overdone of his nature world be titeretly paralysed. it cot wholly extinct —(ifivikurre).—Could such t UAW he endured by any matt who had ever Ignore. or over valued independence ?—(Cries to Ne, Na) —Whatever was the little pittance WhiCh VOW 1... tie labourer at the end rat Use week, it was at his os and in that disposal, herniate as the sum may ht. he frk comparative independence - (Mord aNdatut)...-But all this would be dine away with n the prop.srd plan. He would prefer to see turn p vet y, with a little liceftlioesness, than such a change— (aiirrer.)—Lie did nut mean the word li centimisties,, bt.t in a hunted and qualified sense. In conclusion t e say. that the plan could not have his supra, as it it wade a change in the state of suciet), it w.uldbe tlvidently for the worse. Loud (-Tit sra , e If 'od e r; 14/ 04 / e r Wrekne then c itn.• tn t. aril. He objected to the plan at score length...l. , .elh he admitted that the proposer of it was entitled to etery consideration anti eves respect for his beuevelent intentions. He had condemned the c'eoluct of Ministers for their igno. tante and neghgerce, and at the same time he pro• posed that these vet, men should form part of the very ssme Committee. This he conceived was an insult to the Meeting, which they ought not to sub net to. Ile also emu:tiled that there did not ezist that ignorance and immorality among the lnwcr or ders, which wiz 4P...scribe! by Mr. Owen ; • for their c induct, under all their great privations, could not by any means bear such an interpretation. The real cause of the distress t!,e. worthy Gekti• man did not take into his view, but without a knowledge of such a cause k would be impossible to come at the proper remedy. It would be endeavouring to cover up the wound without probing it; tut though it may be hid for a while, it would not be cured by such means. The cause of the distress and asserted de.! moralisation was manifest, and until it was removed it would be impossible to give a proper remedy.—; It would be absurd to say, that ic 2 0 a.year would insppurt a man and his ternily, in comfort, by the resent plan, and at the same time to pass over, without notice, those persons who received as much money for doing nothing as would be sufficient to suppoi t cue lionthed such families—(l.ora/ atelairm). But this was the case at present. it was one of the causes of that distress to which the very inadequate remedy was now proposed, and it was owing solely to the went of a proper control by the people over their Representatives. ( Applaum. ) lie would ask, were the people nho were to be immured in the pro posed villages or inclosed buildings, to have ailypo- Itical rights, and if they were. Low wei e they to be eserciseJ It appeared to him, that Calder such cir comstances if they were to have the mom: of political I rights. they woisSJ be debarred :mu' I.:1z proper cur ette of them. They would in tic. little better than doves. The Meeting was then decide whether such should be the lot of any portion of their fellow. countrymen? The worthy mover of the plan had said, that he should be content to shot himself up in one of those villages, and remain there for the:est of his If he, retested to end his days in that manner, ea person could controul him ; bust there was one envy to which he (Mr. Waoler) should advise bon, and in the execution cf which he should have I.is most hearty support—that was, to shut up all the with whose set vices society could dispense, or ratha, who were of no use to society at ais—(4 That, indeed, would be a benefit. Let bins then teach them that religion which teas over yet taught to man— (Much lartzhier.) And alter they had sp..ut tour in five and thirty years in that abode. if they they may I , ;! able to giv e suds came back to society , an account tit the place as may induce Theis to sup port it—(A laugh.) as the whole, he could not agree to the plan, for he would rather see poverty w it h independence than any private comfort with lc- Strictt d iibet ty. dlr. es ALB JON ics de;ended the system or Mr. Owen. The opponents of the plan, I.e contended, shut their eye. to tile m 'testy of the conipkte structure, in or de l that they might nibble it piece-mesh. hinds mis conception had canted on that subjtct, and wavy , h. misrcptestotitiorv. 11:.;c1 been Rut forth. Mr. Owen had been softly oppies..esi by has enemies, and it was only a sere of justice and humanity that now called upon him to inttrpose in his behalf. Never had any gr..nd scheme kr the impaova-ment of mankind been lorward, whoa w.:s not opposed by all that ignos•tice. malice, envy, aiid prejudice could st iggest. It must naturally be expected, that this wol:ld be I:ac recsptiam g;ven to any s.;cth plan, from the numerous patties interesteJ in combining to overthrow .and de. .ti:') it. He was proseeding to chew that those who were opposed to Mr. Owen had defeated there... Ave:: that they were refuted by their own reasoning ; whet: the noise which, from impatience to adktuin (as it was near seven ..'clock), had been great before, be came so loud, that to tattaianottier word distiactiy was impossible. Mr. Owex came forward. and desired that the present Speaker, whom he had never scan before. whum he bad never spoken to, and whose name he hael only heard that moment, might experience the same indulgence which had been eaten.led to all who had pieced:4l him. • Eitence ensued, but it was of short duration. Be fore Mr. JoNa could resume his speech, the uproar was as hied as ever. He endeavoured, but in vain, to r.r. card. Dr. Midmost neat sprung on the table, out was rout attended to. /lifts much tumult a.id confulien, the amendurnt no►ved by Major Tenassos was put to the vote, and lest by a peat majority. Mr. Wernists's Caine Lest, Pnd that being carried by a small majority, the business of the Ja► concluded with a vote of thanks to the CUALIO4.*.N. which WAS moved by Mr. WAITH UAW, a Kesnluuotr hftving been previonbly ct me to that the result of the d r)'s business should be pub lished in thepaily Palate. THE EVENING STAR,. • LONDON. FRTDAY, AUGUST S 2, 1817. PlitICE OF ti FOCK4 iiiIUUAY A rrwhi..va O'CLOCK Iti.decod —Crguirg. 79 l i—Casmok for Aug. 7el 4 prr Cent. toii 9S-4 per Cwt. /411157, .0514 kat baud. ik4 ir. r .—Y :cheque 5.11., 31$ 345. pr. The adjouttied hleeting to consider Mr. OWEN'S 1 proposed PLiti for refornsmg the vicious, and rooting up pauperism, tuna place yester.lay at the City of Lunelot Tavern. The details which we have laid before our Readers, under their proper head, are vu ample that little tenuous to be added here. The 1 1 Meeting was very numerous, and a large portion of it may be said to have been several times renewed, by the withdrawing of numbers who could no loneer bear the pressure and heat, and the entrance of others who occupied the stairs Ind avenues to the I trg , roem. Aminig those who withdrew we hete no doubt were m any who would have been for sendiro! Or Flan to a Cununittee; but this was big .tivi.d by a considerable majority of th se who occupied th.. room at seven o'clock; for it was half an how kovr ' before the hireling broke up. Many different opinions will no doubt he • found . respecting the proposed plan and the proceedisigib that have taken place. In some respects it nolt how. ever be asserted. that the Meeting decided without any thoron6lt examination. The whole of Mr. Owsti's publications, and all that he has yet stated orally to the rublic. possess more of the character of a sketch for consideration, for discussion, for amend ment, for filling up—than of a regular plan ready for the adoption of a large public assembly. Major CARTWiIIGUI% remark was correct—that it was f‘ a plan which no one could understand. and which was bnfit to be discussed in this or any similar meeting, from the complexity of its character and the infinite variety of interests it involved.".—The obvious course then ought to have been that which is generally followed under similar circumstances— The appointment of a Committee to examine the plan in its details, and report whether the plan possessed any merits to entitle it to a trial ? Whether the ble mishes that might attach to it were of a nature to be remedied ? Or whether, on the contrary, the scheme, on examination, might be found altogether visionary and impracticahle t On one point we could not exactly understand Mr. 1 Owert's views s nor do we stand alone in this re- I specs. He is the advocate of universal toleration— • and in this all good men will agree with him ; but if he maintains that any Religion is to beidtntified with i;s professors, nothing can be more untrue. He ap. pears to us to have assumed that all the vices and un• sociable qualities to be fund among men sr~ du:fruits l and necessary consequences of their religion; whereas 1 they are truly the result of their want of religion—their inattention to its precepts—their ignorance of its doe_ 1 tutors. He seems to have confounded sectarian tenets ' , and pr actices with the dictatesof the codeon which each sect pretends to found its dogmas.—We here employ tl:e terns " Sect" and •I Sectarian" in their general sense—as terms equally applic a ble to n a ti ona l este i hlishments and to dissenting communities. It is ob- I views that the practical exhibition of the different pro. 1 Elisions is very shfirrat, though all Christians acknow • h dge but mode. These differences then can only rest on the gfc,tter cc less de/larterre of each sect/este thepi alifiti eiathiuti-ar. Whether then may the greatest dewee of unity be expected to be effected from a re ' cuttence to the dictates of the code whence all haver more or lees, deviated ? or by abandoning the code entirely ? Nut by the latter assuredly. 1 But this very code directs what ought to be done, when men differ conscientiously. They should bear with each other. There should be no Fitsrsetution iof any kind. The Christian religion is a religion of Iwace. :tnti if era vases V conyaid crowed are es. Lablii:.CJ, they can only acquits: mid maintain this character by attending to th, Christi .n precepts.— I Do to others as -y4l, quou.ki Aar others ikculd Jo h . pi! Love thy ne4hkur a: )41:1 . 1: It Mr. Owsor only /firms that in his new vallges there shOold be no fsvouritifm on account of the rya. fission of particular creeds ; that all the inhabitants should crjoy perfect libt:rty ct conscivn-v—few in this enlightened age will object tit th;s enjoyment of a rigl:t already common to the community { but if he means that the people fshoul6 be t 'tight to d:s• regard the high authority rf the ScriNcres, we are sure, with all the vice and immoralit} o:at exist, that still so much Christianity priNails as to ptcrctit :!4c establishment of such a system. We cannot believe, lic , tevvr, t!!at Mr. Owrx I:ns any such intention ; for the very request that .► Coo► mitten should be appointed to examine his plans ti:►d arrange the details gives evidence of the c••n!ra:g. With the Committee it would !►e to s.lttle every tl.ing respecting instructioa. and a Committ,c crimposed of such materials as he has prop:Jsed would certainly give every attention to this important point. FRENCH PAPERS. The Paris Papers of Tuesday .arrived this xntrning. 'nit hollowing are ustrncts: PARIS, AUGUST Is. The Duke of Wellington had this d.ty a private audience of the King. The Count de Ruppin (King of Prussia) paid a ir , sit, at five o'clock, to the ilLniajnct Jardin Beas f ion, and Afterwards went to see the re re. sensation of lirdinaNd Cortez. M.trJs.,l the Duke of Reggio returned here yeater dsy at four o'clock, and has this day restarted hi , . functions as Major-General of the !top' Guard. ALTONA, AUGUST 9. The Kiog and Queen of Denmark have left their capital on a visit to thrir Germ in Provinces. They crossed the Great Belt in eight bums ; passed the night cf the ( . ) .J and 5.1 at Nyborg ; made a shcrt stay at OdensC; and went thence, by Middatahrt. to Aprurad. To•day they are expected at Lostisen -I.x.d, whence they weal go on the II di to Kid, and on the Mb to OlJesloe. .STUT MAIM, AUGUST The meetings of uur Privy Council are wry fre quent, but nothing his trantpired of their proceedings. The liberty of the press being established amongst us, pamphlets and iroeirrn on the situation of the country, daily make their appe‘trance. Souse of which, dev:lop;ng Vie advantages cl the new Constitutional are very ephese. 111(01) Wagenhelm, w!io IRAs hce,, so unjustly calumniated Ly his adversaries, continues to enjoy the fte.l ci:rfizlence of the King. French Funds, 18th August, 68 fr., 35 c. DU I'CH AND FLANDERS MAILS Arrived this m The following are the only Articles ilia possess the slighter interest : BRUS:3EL% AUC;USr 16. Some Journals !hiving sposzen with inaccuracy of the complaint brought by his Grace the Duke of Wellington against the Printer and Editor of the Jessowl rf Ilia Rears, we give the following details as certain :—The article in which the Duke of Wel lington thinks himself insulted is in the P.iper of the 14th July.-4 , Mr. Debru, Intendant of Martinique, having exceeded his powers in causing a great many French 011icers to be loaded with irons and sent to I , France, under the pretext of Bonapartism, the Mi nistry in its policy had thought fit to reprove him, and the Quctiefintrw had announced the nomination of Mr. Esmangard. An order emanating from the Ministry of the Police has enjoined chat this news is not to be repeated. It is affirmed that Mr. I)ebru administering the colony very well in favour of a foreign Government, Lord Wellington has desired to see him retain it. No more is wanting to per,)e tuAte him in his hononrable functions." This cause will be tried on the 30th of this month before the Tribunal of Ghent. Mr. Counsellor Beyens is charged with the defence of the accused, the Doke of Wellington being plaintiff (Ainst pot; parii! civil:.) The Counsellors Tarte, Senior, P:otesscr at the School of Jurisprudence, and Jouhard, are to plead his Grace's cause. FRANKFORT, AUOIT-IT IL Count Casasuan, the French AnihAssador at the Court of 'Vienna, passed yesterday through this city on his tray to Carlsbad. GHENT, AUGUST 17. Mr. Gallatin, the A'snaerican Am!)assador at Paris, who is chargeJ by his Government with a mission to his Majesty the King of the Nether!antis, has come to speed some clays here with his family. lIACUI, AUGUST IS. Among the foreigners of distinction who are at present in this town. are Lord Viscount Torrington, Vice-Admiral in the service of his Britannic Ma- jesty, who. in the year ISIS, had the conveying Isis Majesty. our Sovereign. on board his the coast of Holland. where his Majesty Ismiud on the SOth of November that year. Last night dispatches were sent cff from Down ing-street to the Cape of Good Hope. It has been ascertained, that the dot; w.ts rttlt mid, which Pat Noe WILLIAhI of eaut.,lA Lottn.g Lim, when he had tr. d upon the pool atimal. A ballocn was s:4tt up last week holt, tine of the public gardens at 1 1 .“ it., wi t h a car I „ it. in which was a bug. When at a considerable elevation, the poor imitrial uta, Intl wae-dtt ; L 4117 4tuised. 8R1C177031, AUCCs7 el. This morning, the wind havin7 fortuittte:y to the North, brought tine we4tlivr, with tir,• cv, tion of a (tiv• reiurni!ig ;inns the r:;•.71 cloudt. Anion three o'cl :.'..ii: afternoon a« let c ck,)erted lt.,yal yaciat, i• t: C•tptitin al:peatt.d in our ;!,• cumpanied by the Tuna faigme, abd another (wlaise n true we could not leans :trim rte dittance of her sta:inu.) Abrui. iii o'cl , ick the Ritial George came to hit afrscd a3n.iti.ig•.; in olt and fired a Royal saline, was retutuld by her Roy .1 Rnyal Highness the PaiNcs ltrinsr has not teen able to leave the Partiien owing to falling shnwers in the afternoon. Fran IL• beautiful clea• evtisittg, we wit" aniizipate a eur..inuance cf Cue wei.ther, which is no. very desirable far accelerating the harvest, which has begone general al...rg the coast of Sa rcz the last tour days. NAYAL I ili7 ELL/GRATZ. PALMOLI Ulf, AUGUST 19. Sailed the Lady Arabella packet, fnr Litho," ; SAiltiute packet, for Now Task and Halif ; Safi.- bury packet, for Jamaica; and M anchester packet, ix the beamdb, all with Mails.—Wind S. W. Pak TSMOU'I 11, AUG r tn. &riled the °aim, KnIXIINOToN. for New South Wales I and Unity. Mvuu. tur Oporto. DEAL, AtIGUS r el. This morning 'Le wind bititted to the N. E. and the whole of the outearlbound sailed on their te. 'peek. voyages. Remain the &LIMN ttigate Swift East India pilot yac,st. HARWICII, AUGUST 21. /Wised the hince of. o.attge packet, aril from Holland, DOVEILAIIMPT 21. Arrived the Lord Wellingt:sn, Captain Avbnce. front Calcutta. NORTH SHIELDS, AUGUST 19. Arrived the Lady J kne, Fly %mu, hem Dirt.' Straits, with titre &h. On the rth tiltialno the spate the Love, FA lINIFR. who had sir. ti.h and 20 butts 1: off a ,2e.ikt fish. On the 21th ultink.) spke the Eg net.tub, with eivht tish. GitAVLSIthIIO, AT:cusT 21. Arrived the Susie t, Sewe ll, front Ilarihtlet ; John, Poppko well, astilTrLieut, Kirk, hewn iin..:te; ti.itrued, Pnpplewell ; Jane, Grange; Union, than; Diranisou, heed; ltobett and ll i gergesei. (fray; Itaeliel, Fromm:tit • aed tnd I•ahella, 111•Lettiian, trim' Peterablir;ol; Viulairt„ Peel; Nertwie. Kir , sty ; Indusuy„ Tay ; and :toe: wevt!, odd, hum Grevulsn I ; !V. Nicholas, Milne, front L'. ; Aid, Crs.z, front I , lratale ; Y Z, Tait,-, (rum .irchranr,el; Aar lard, front Miramichi. Sallel the COSSa 'k, M I'e3 It, for 'the Ctpe of Guiul Hope; Areiliwa. Haly, for St. nubtnu'.; dare. well, Pinder, tor Trud.'itol; AtAnnott, Foril,and N,mble, Laneg, fur Mutant and Cale Coa.A ; 4:Acois a, tiro.: n, air Ostend; Duke ut York, firr, ac.d Pr nee of :•aite Caurs, Ladd, fur kotttri'ant; lawson, for Pdlau. CDS rOM-HOU‘ 7 ., A UGU A' 2i. Sutra e'er,* r txw.t aus— Ihe Mary*, from Water. ford; New Frieodma,s, %Varner ; And Lerd lave - t wo', Ailesbury„ ftum Ca'ais • i Sarah, Kr*r. tt, fr.m v.:lc; John, trona Grena , la ; P rince r f Cotiour, 1. - era noes liers.ya, Wihon, f uvi ra, \Vol% from ()stem/; 11 , 4; bwitt, Mar4 l K•e. from Liantur B.e!, •:,, nom Riga; lboi, Ruby, Crum Charerce; Qin•hee, WilLaose. from u.b: altar ; Rebecca, truer, from fortoia, and the Henry WeUecler, fi um :it. Domingo. Our WARDS— l'ho Camden, 1321Inglsorw, far A! Cola; Mary Ann, I roar, tar Hantborsts; 'Neap, Pike. for I.lahon ; Sovereign, Laming ; and the Vitham and Anna, /141.1 day, fee otterdam; busatatali, Ward, for the Cape of Uuod Hope; 414 San lose, De Agana, fur The United Service Clut, House is to be finis%ed and furnished by the QUhEN'II Birth-day. When completed, iiiis extensive btatheilig wilt b- the hAo.f somest mansien fur the ptirp,ce in Engl.ind. The exterior is now stuccoing to give it the aiire.,rauce of stone. The ice.honse, wine -cellars, and different officer, are iton an improved plan. Tile FtistAr.:! 1 7 .va..—;\ matietn writer gives ee f o llowing t.nuracri.tion f the expressmas of a female eye:—The g!.ite, the ,:are, the leer, to.. sneer, th e invitation, Cie defiance, the det.ial, the consent, the ghost of love, the flash of rage, the spat klieg of hop e , the languishment of softne:A, the squint of suspicion, the fire cl jealousy, and the In.tro of pleasure. Tie Felten-tux. Nlort it is stid, has at 1: - ngth been discovered, though to what use it may he ap. plied, it remains fcr tittle to shew.—Annthet melon, toifortimately or 11... s been hug in ;e4ctice, v rich G. Csau-t.t. c.tn Ariure his It end; ' 34S br..:ls the means ct enriching tlotusalds. TLis is t; d nata tory motion oat the Id.ttery Wheels, which wia re volve upon thtir axes on the 10th September, and distribute, amongst many other ( f .4.20,000, which it is toPPosed 06;11 14i v, t!:e of those make their paschases at Nis. 7, C or 26, Osferd.crect. 'rite KING'S 13AND.—Tbe streg%!e ft.r tlt^ plvce of Master and Conductor of the 11.-yal P..ve v.. s , -,TT w:,, to. and the candidates numerous ; amongst ot:,• :a wile Sir Gamma &cum and Sir Join The appoiniment was handsomely c• n!erea tv, , )r t Mr. Sifit'Ll3 by the Per:stn: Renexr, as st ,, n as Lis Rey a t Highness was informed moat his NIA had given a - pr:mire of the appqiniment, bstic..l , -..er it should become vacant, to Mr. Sum, 1"..e y is three hundred pounds aye I:. Mr. Stur.l..) i. to sworn in, in a few days. _ MAlLLS•blturc:a-ITRIECT 214"A'ae , man. late Deputy Commissary in Pcrtugal; our itt t.!.. • -74: r • member, was committed from this OfCcr a few e. MIMIC Tbe Act upon 'ASCII was committed glees • may be taken before tho. commits:T . l;7 Matt/trate ar.J id—r. 4 providing tbs.y be tati4e.l. by tbr certiacates of tit' the person commit:e l be of sane taintl. t7.t t • • • • seined to rt-crive bail. by two sureties In -C. a Inc!. !. was promised that Mr. MtNativlitutt should re own bail would mit be required. as, in that ca..r, • - ttl to b: at the Ses.toit t. CORN LICCIIANGV, num.LANr, liavin , a good arrival of AVlteat that morning, in a,tdition ti, a large tin 4:.:lry tt - • a Essex, &Acta WAS lttt over from Nf0 , 1,..; - , weather b ing favourable, caused heave t.l: - f• t: above article, Pt Menilay's triers. Tl e 0.. r wee was rather Inish, but not at liikhcr prices. Itt r'f-Ils Beans, and (.711t rattielee , siteratifys. SAMIIPE'I.O MARKET. A''GINT fil. rTel 91 41 re 4% 41:, i Vt.?! 4% t.. 4. !II Niuttoo Ss Se. ro 4. 4 4 , utto 3% ("1 11—nmb 31. 841 to 46. 1.41. Brut% 050.—Olert. aeuj 6'450 --L'a:ve. 1 YG --nt• VI V BAY AM) STRAW PYR 1.011) Hay sTi. o .o LS. u:..—Cknir Xd. us to 71 71. Straw Xi. .1.. to Al. 14. Lett.YJN . 1 utd aw 2 ye bits, r-4 by !.slat Kant, 1 1 :2 :