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■ Provides! hcnouri and that it was a sacred duty to endea - attain it. Our advantages from it would be than, that of our ene , evidence expedition to , had in to bring against AS Majesty n.., his re againstluctancepennahaaryki,naga same time his congratu lations the same _ _ hostilely tion, the House had no other course similar to the country on the success to of pursue, to e in their answer to his Majesty a re ueez,Pebdiut- luctance, and a similar congratulation. He thought it was impossible that the Government of this coun try pose coul sons d e b: onfi cated oe on in , if the were not yfn jteostyre,s peech. If it should -afterwards turn out that Mini ster, had put untrue assertions in his Majesty's Speech, they were responsible for it ; but it was too much to question the truth of such assertions, before pro co d ul uo d in b; a a n dv th a e nc inf ed onn for a e ti x o p n re whi ssin o g h a doubt.atlea Ministers had received, it must be acknowledged by any y As to reason every man who was at all acquainted with the his tory of this country, that Government often posses sed that information which made it necessary for it to act in the most decided manner, when, at the same time, it would be highly imprudent to publish that information in such a manner as might expose to the enemy the sources from which it was derived, and which might expose the lives of those who gave such information. He himself knew the great difficulty there was- in obtaining information, and as a plain man, a eidfier addichujetrare in versa enagirtri," he must caution the House not to be pressing for the disclo sure of information which came from secret sources. Itt the time of the American war, there was an im prudent publication of intelligence which had been received, relative to the sailing of the Toulon fleet; and the consequence was, that the enemy found out, and stopped a source from which we had long derived im portant intelligence, through Holland. He, for his part, gave credit to his Majesty's declaration, as to the ne cessity of the measure, in consequence of the informa tion which had been received. He shrewdly suspec ted, that there was a collusion between France and Denmark ; but whether there was or not, if it were evident that Denmark was not strong enough to re- sist the violence of France, after the representationst we had made, and the option we had given, we were justified by the first of all laws, that of self-preserve.- um, to seize upon that fleet which our enemy wank have turned against us. It was absurd, and like the language of school-boys, to be talking at this time of the day about abstract principles of right' when. we THZ ADDRESS. knew that the enemy with whom we were contending Lord HAMILTON brought up the report of the never suffered any of those abstfact principles of address to his Majesty. right to restrain him; but rather seemed to prefer .the' Mr. MACDONALD expressed his surprise at the abstract principle of wrong. He thought the conduct statement of the Secretary of State the other night, of Ministers in this instance as decisive as it was sec who had declared, that no further information, as to cessful ; and as to the cause of the country, with "rit;' the grounds of the expedition to Copenhagen, was to spect to this expedition, if every man were to lay his be given, while he, at the same time, required a de- hand upon his heart, and pronounce a verdict front cision on that point. It was true, the eyes of Europe his conscience, he for one should say, that it Was... were fixed upon the British Parliament; but so much o not guilty" of any thing deserving blame, and that y it had acted as imperious ne c e ssit y requ i re d. do the more did it concern that Parliament not to do an thing that should disgrace it in the eyes of Europe. vernment had proposed to Denmark this option, that As no information had been given by Ministers, on if t h ey wou ld give up t h e i r fl eet, as a. depo sit,tut& the grounds of their conduct towards Denmark, it the conclusion of peace, the army we had in the Bal must be considered, on the general principle and the tic (near 20,000 men ), should be employed to protect them against France. In the circumstances of Den facts known. The armament of the Danes could not be considered as hostile, because the preparations mark, this proposition was no insult ; and he verily in their harbours could net have been begun in the believed, that if he had been a Dane, he should not interval between the treaty of Tilsit and the sailing of have tho ug h t i t di sgrace f u l to surren d er the fleet upon the expedition ; and the dispositions of the Danish those terms, and under those circumitanees. As ID arming exhibited rather a jealousy of the designs of peace, although it might be possible to obtain one France, than those of Great Britain. With regard which would not be dishonourable, he doubted very to some other points, he would say nothing till the much the possibility of obtaining one which could be papers were produced. As to the subject of peace, secure. The only ground of a secure 'peace appear. he thought that the Ministers laid too much stress on cdto be a footing of perfect equality ; and to mai* forms. teal that equality, it would be necessary that it shoal Mr. FULLER did not think it fair that attacks he an armed peace. He deprecated the promoting should be made on Ministers, with regard to the af- petitions for peace, which he thought might do a fair of Copenhagen. If the same course had been great deal of mischief, but which could not possibly pursued with respect to the Spanish fleet, the battle of be productive of any good. Trafalgar would not have been fought, and we vroulB Mr. WINDHAM concurred in . general with the not have lost the immortal Nelson. It was true we Wight Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, in had evacuated Copenhagen, because we could not deprecating petitions from the country a great deal for peace, for l of keep it, (hear ! hear ! ) and the French might in the they could do no go o d, an d may d o winter have entered England. He was only sorry that harm, in the course in which this country should Ministers had not seized every bird that hovered about conduct itself in this great and delicate operation ; the transactions at Tilsit. Whatever the other side yet considering the state and condition of the persons of the House might say about the allegations of Crown who were the most forward in promoting such peti. Princes or Half-Crown Princes (a laugh) we ought to l i ons , i t was i mposs ib le -for 'be 'House not to'syMpa believe our own Ministers. Let them go on to do thin with their feelings ;at the ,saxne time it was im their duty, and they would always have his support. possible, too, not to see that front their information, Mr. HIBBERT observed, that the petitions far and also from the natural bias under which they peace were the result not of party instigations, but of acted, they proceeded without any other rule what the distress of some part of the people. The negoci- ever than that of their own immediate wishes. He ation of the late Ministers had, by a few, been termed felt as other Gentlemen did, and even went beyond disgracefal,hut from ao negociation had this coma- most of them, on this subject. As to what was said try for a long time come out with so much honour.— on the question of peace, that any peac e w hi c h t hi s The present Ministers had, by their expedition, dis- country should acc e p t sh ould be an honourable peace, graced the country without either necessity or ability. be - was of opinion that we could not hive such a Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, that from the affair peace. It did not come into his yiew ; and he did of Copenhagen he felt disgraced as an Englishman. .w, as he had done long ago, leave honour out of He entered into a statement of the proceedings vela. the question in the consideration of peace. All he tive to the Yorkshire petition, and observed, th at the wante d was , a peace that might give us Security. delegates in their application to him for his opinion, H av i ng t h at , he woold give up a n y notion of had observed, that they were not more distressed . by Honou r : the war than by the Orders in Council. He had ad. Give us, kind Dulness, Memory, and rhimp t, vised them not to petition for peace, and had, there:- Well put off pan to another time ! fore, refused to be their Chairman. He thought.thar " I look to nothi ng ( sa id h e ) b ut to that - WW2 ap negociations were actually goi ng on at the time. If pears to me to be of advantage to my country. What they sm.a of opinion that the present Ministers had benefit can I have by war it brings to me neither ho acted improperly, he avowed that be advised them to but r th n e or in p tere rofi s t t . of l nl loo y o k ountry to no* ; i th rig at in inte p iteacstecoran wai only , petition for their removal. Mr. EDEN meailin which lead to its security an d required explanation of one I prefer peace t o war , or way to peace, as th e o n e or part a be promoted by tile. Speech. It was there said. ilkattds Majestywas. informed of a general ccmfedeeation to force all the , 'the other is likely to p r om ote tkax security. /lilt what weaker powers to take a part agthre Great Britain , has been said cn:the question afinoralioy, d eserves , i n and that it then became a duty to pout that. .But loy opinion, a great d ea l of the attention of this : the Treaty of Tilsit was signed on the 7th of J4 1 -; 1 . 1 - louse.„, lam much eo neetne d for thetountenance intelligence and a copy of it !tacked this countryon• ! which seems n ow a b out t b be , trienby Miii sters i n the Sat of August only, and yet PA the 96th of July this country tocertain docutiks. This appears to me , Fos ar eeireg i :74 Hundreds Therein -- , 'the Right Honourable Richard Ryder, appointed a Lord of the Treasury ; and fee Yarmouth, in the room Jerrobe Clarke Jer voiae, Esq. deceitful. Mr. Grant, from the Office of the Comndlalnuen of Military Inquiry, presented the fifth report of the said Oossunissionses, which was laid oa the table. Sir Francis Burdett, Bart. and another Hen. Member took the oaths and their wits. The usual standing Orders of the House were read and agreed to. 'ID. S very 213mila:thing ; and, igtutude of the question of peat/ t .e character and reputation \greater. If Minister; have rece which justified their conduct, T wive us some account of it. . oat is an important question thiiik that question is, I do sic as the doctrine by which Ministers ra nts endeavour to maintain uct in the expedition to a d period in which it appears to take leave of our old moral bar old adherence to old mor"" a new code of morality from like individual's, may think 1 convenience in a departure, (roes the rides of sound morality idi r gis led to the ruin of those " that system; and if it be so of so to nations in a course of time an- aggregate of individuals. maxims are very fine things, bi them on particular occasions for departing from them on pleases you to do so. This is power 9(r:totality, which, like gate,. tends to render what it , colons. I say this is the most dining State, the most dreadful and worse than any profligacy tally, while k is not defended as it was ,wellobserved by an I should. be -happy to hear (Mr. Eden), that in the present before the cause ; so I would never thoroughly depraved theory with practice, instea, subservient to its theory. V, the reach of repentance for the until we make our theory bend beyond redemption, for our prim our inducement to repent thought this was refinemem into the fashion of the day, maxims, I am sure we shall for it is a system at which the to nothing ; for if there shout, a tolerable steadiness in the morality, yet there will be in morality, a regard for right wrong, that will soon make t the code of morality which ono morals. If the country must ► but do not let it be said that Of morality, in hopes to save , failed in it; that we betook outsell and to all species of injustice, save ourselves; for then we shall if we preserve our integrits even in our ruin. I think a ted by Gentlemen, who in portant event in the annals I aside the national character the great resource which we . we were assailed from every which, by this expedition, will ever, unless some proof be iessity. That Governmen, obliged to act upon evidence wards disclose, I am ready be cases in which, if you act, in acting, but you cannot and therefore you will be censured then it is a question of pru," a& at all ; . and that, I think, • your policy would have been . acting, even if your information for I think you have lost - have gained." He added of the same kind ; and observer nem sters did not raise their force made the expedition to suit vident sailors, who, when they " how shall we spend it ?" Mr. MATTHEW KO: from the last Right Han thought the whole of this able to the present Administration Administration, of which the R . tieman was one, would have to Constantinople had succeeded it had, its advocates would have same arguments as those which the present. Mr. WILLIAM SMIr . thought that petitions for raged, because they tended t, in their endeavours to obtain had told his constituents at 7 for peace, and a petition for tinct things. If Ministers desire to negociate for peace, assailed from every quarter should do every thing he could Lions. In such a case, pelled tb endeavour to negociate ought to be.compelled to make - would negociate. Mr. Secretary CANNING admitted, ing to statements of dates, the Treaty of not arrive' in this cou n t r y before the expedition - penhagen was prepared ; but the substance of t arrangements of the secret parts of that Treaty, ' matter of which Government had been apprised fore ; and much of the armament, prepared for ceir objects, was employed in this. Mr. WHITBREAD took occasion to ream iti s application for some information upon thii scbycn He wished to know whether in reality Governed possesied any thing more by way 'of informall° , than they had communicated already on the of the Copenhagen Expedition, for he suspected .g 1 did not. He maint a i ne d t h at t h e D an es had a to say we had no intention of defending them agt 1 France at any time; f or t h e moment we had tiad from them their fleet, we left Zealand to the Fteel. As to Petitions for Peace he differed from his friends (Mr, Windham end Air. Wm. Smith), ft% 'thought tha t every - part of the country oUght , an a . hoped that every p art o f t h e countr y would. Pen ° for Peace. The Address was then read, agreed to, and cell to be Presented' to his t 5y such Memb! s Ak the VoSass as are of lais Maiesty'a Most H°4llNif Cesiaca.--Adjourned.to Monday next. • been t. . A aver rAMES EDWARD, Doemeke.• : • The Im • : 111.53 h Ambast e dor, M. erpowns. gi e whatei - or IF there are any Chita . on' the Estate . of the late scoomerrivedfseetiledaybeforeyesterday,an4ipaliktit • "on of phambphy to tic ght t.e all• JANIS EDWARD, Of Fitchees-ceort, Noble-street, Warehouse- to . his flea audience of his Majesty Vs!) Eats .be admitted on all hark • that the, cause great man (who deceased on the 15th of April hat) not yet Ikuidated, it is required that a statementbe tranamkted to Mrs. Heal, 26, peror: He inhabits' the hotel ef Prince Walchobtliqw ' to precede the effect, and: ye here fittillect whicl Wood-street, Cbeapside, sole Executor, before the 15th day of which Governmen t haebought foithat purpose' f o r preceded the cause. . • •-• ~ to gi , that • was the That April next, that they may be =ambled and discharged.' 860,000 rubles. Mr. PYM eaPreiseallis °Pinion , ---- -ace Jan. 50,1606 . • A few days back a dueltook place between Count interest of all parties, provided it cou ld be secured think TO MAGISTRATES, PROFESSIONAL - MEN, and drugs,: Chreptowitsch, Lord Chamberlain, and Colonel Ar- with hcnour, and that it was a sacred duty to endea- as th CAPPER's Tome - illumine-an 'DICTIONARY of senslmw, in which the latter was killed on the spot.— your to attain it. Our ad v ant a g es from it would :be rents GREAT BRITAIN, IRELAND, and the other Bridals The dispute originated in a love affair. equal tn, or perhaps greater than, that of our ene- cond Islanda, will be ready for Delivery to the Public on Monday" the Ist of February, in one very kris Volume, octavo; cloudy 1 1 .4RLI4IIKENTART PROCEEDINGS: before the Hourly ID approve of the expedition to to nal accompanied by 56 newly-drawn MArs, price Hs. In hoards. es' sig. with the Maps coloured. Denmark. our Tisk Work has been originally compiled from ParliaMeaturp., HOUSE OP COMMONS, FRIDAY, JANUARY 22. Mr. YORKE thought that after Ministers-had hi- a nel °Acid, and other Modern Authorities; and is the most complete New Witis weeo for the fo places: formed the House of the designs of France to bring like and comprehensive Description of every County, District, Parish, For Castle Ridstgois the room of the Hon. Laseelles ; for the Poerers of Portugal and to act against cony and Place, within the British [sheds, that has eves been published. Tregony, in the reseed Godfrey Wentweilds; Esq. • who have 'this country , ' a f ter his Majesty had expressed his re. from Bridge-street, Jan. 14, MIL • accepted the Chairs liindreds ; for liverion, I n ;he room of ......ineeet .../ ltmtance at having _been obliged . to..xct hostilely alwa great as I • 1 peace or warn, n of this cou nt ,, ceived any i nf they Perhaps th e v h a ef a on l h ; tPc b ut il" l"tar't h S. not think it their s • R e d 1 misters the propriety of C year t ora • al th ey t ayin hein a la°S ot Pen diu Cthhl th F vi i3 a ll i arn re ---gen: th i glo h ett se a fa . ! n l a ito. re ; 'l ll6: l' . . ,, ! . .: :,, .... in some sp ec . :• Cent. rii of is ncralitY ; but th at Cast individuals wh o , ieod ipae ; fora na t i on ; •. C ls. Jf yo u sa - , ' •tl y • to but we must depar t , specie n, . s M ce the oath taken a t professes, pe r f ectly s asi rest fatal system of ; adful of all Rem ; cy that may occu r . a led upon principle, t Hon. Gentleman, r oftener in this R. al" resent case the effect : >uld say, that a St i e until it accommodial• id of keeping its m kt ap t We shall never be ved the errors of ou r p eac .;,,„ rad to it, and the n we T . a principles being com a „, ,• e is fled. Besid es , nt, and that we must I •, and laugh at 211 m ol t '. 11 make a bad haw at i t, the French will laa mld be in the Comet it • new code of corder / if * t i in this coun tr y a hello - ht, and an abhoneacti • us-pear very clum s y' .4 teaches us to despise pi Bri Ist be undone, let it it; , twe took up a fake sp a e ourselves from ruin, et t ; , urselves to violence,* ire, and after all cookie • zit shall fall unpitied ; ity, there will be a dig* a great mistake is c. h examining this mots is. s of our whole history,la er of this country; then 5 e had for our defence, tie i very quarter • a &nue , will have bee; forfeirlit d le given of its gook* r lent have been fret sualf ' ce which it could araie y to admit ; but there tct, you have a justifustia disclose your just** :ensured for your emit; udence whether pas adi 4 nk, is the present cane, and been to have deird fins mation justified pot act— much more therm other general Amain , bserved further, that Va we for this expeditiA, uit their force ; like imp they had got money, all )NTAGU differed est* 3nourable Gentleman, tsi expedition highly ham tistration ; and that the la the Right Honourable Get . • me been glad the erpitos needed in the same arf ; d have defended it with is which were urged to tiefol TH agreed with those sio • peace were to be dim 4.c1 to embarrass God lain that object, and sole ace, he hoped they wookll4 r a o t r a N i r oV oc ch ia ; ti bu oih t a w petiiis ertii were not actuated :ter with petitions, MI could to promote such! , Ministers shoal be 50 ,_ negotiate ; or if not, too make way for others NG admitted, that accord s, the Treaty of Tilsitcsl before the expedition to Co • bur the substance of tie FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE .. LISBON, DEC. 7. Since the departure ofthe Prince Regent, traniuil lity is entirely established in the kingdom. Ile French troops have taken possession of the whole of Portugal. The quantity of artillery which' they found was immense ; from Fort St. Julian to POrt Belem, there were more than 500 pieces of cannon. The Marine Arsenal is fully provided with timber for ship building, iron, and all kinds of naval stores. There are in th e road six ships of war, which niii be got ready to sail at the first notice, among which is the Vasco de Gami, of 74 guns, entirely new, with six frigates and twelve brigs. The Portuguese army, consisting of twenty-four regiments of infantry and six of cavalry, forming in the whole ten thousand men under arms, will be organized into a legion inthe service of France. The General in Chief, Junot, resides in the Palace of Lisbon ; General Delaborde commands the city; the Russian squadron of Admiral Siniavin is in the harbour. FRANCKFORT, JAR. v. Mr. Dernitzi Fleury, Lieutenant and Adjutant to Admiral Siniavin, passed yesterday through this city, on his way to Petersburgh. He left Lisbon on the 14th December. The English fleet, under the orders of Admiral Sir Sidney Smith, had not at that time made the least attempt to attack the Russian fleet in the port of Lisbon. on MS way I 14th Decem of Admiral made the le, the port of t. B Accordin jesty the Kil answer to th your brethn COnstitutior shall be no ever religioi no cause to Jews, and worthy the • duct themse to them the Her Sen Mecklenbur here the dal the Court a born the 9tl So great pound of ve from 20 to A great Cassel in 114 vice of the to quit that It appear • with in the Private I land will in tution. It will reign There is not be cede reported. The pan posts at 2 there are n The Dir any money They w: gusa will b The foil; Diet :-1. rian Regin the exact a confirmatic which the kingdom o toll, Hung Dominions All the are to be c contraband .4 late been c prevent de stian arm; reigners en &c. who a nions. Official Grandenta the Vistula stant by P Elbing. On the Danish M All Englil origuy wh have cease fallen int( fallen to ti can be app or the scr officers an to remain It is ref very high St. Peters] BANKS OF THE ELBE, lAN. 7. According to private letters from Cassel, his Ma jesty the King of Westphalia returned the following answer to the Deputation from thelsraelites :—'Tell your brethren, that conformably to my will and the COnstitution of the kingdom of Westphalia, there shall be no distinction between my subjects of what ever religion they may be. I hope that I shall have no cause to repent of what I propose doing for the Jews, and that not only they will render themselves worthy the name of Citizens, but that they will con duct themselves in such a manner that I may confide to them the employments I intend for them." LUDWIGLUST, LAN. 2. Her Serene Highness the Reigning Duchess of Mecklenburgh Schwerin, Princess of Saxe Gotha, died here the day before yesterday, to the great regret of the Court and the whole country. This Princess was born the 9th of March, 1756. BANKS OF THE MAINE, JAN. 2. So great is the scarcity at Koningsberg, that a pound of veal costs 12 groshen, and a load of wood from 20 to SO rix dollars. A great number of French who had arrived at Cassel in hopes of being allowed to enter into the ser vice of the King of Westphalia, have received orders to quit that city. It appears certain, that celibacy will be dispensed with in the Catholic Church. Private letters from Paris announce, that Switzer land will immediately assume a Monarchical Consti tution. It is thought that the Prince of Neufchatel will reign over that country. There is good reason to believe that Ulm will not be ceded to the King of Wirtemberg, as has been reported. The particular Commission of the Directors of the posts at Berlin; have been officially informed, that there are now no foreign troops on the Vistula. The Direction at the same time were forbid to send any money to the other side of that river. They write from Italy, that the Republic of Ra gusa will be incorporated with the kingdom of Italy. OFFEN, DEC. 20. The following is the result of the last Hungarian Diet :—I. Twelve thousand recruits for the Hunga- Regiments-2. A considerable sum of money, t amounttof which is not yet known—S. The ttion of the grant of Maria Theresa ;by le port of Fiume is incorporated with the _ of Hungary-4. The Abolition of Transit tungarian accommodation, in the Hereditary ions.] AUSTRIA, DEC. 31. the cordons found on the Austrian frontiers considerably reinforced To 'check the trabaad trade in sugar, coffee, acce'which has of carried on to an alarming degree-,-.2. To desertion of foreigners serving in the Au army—And, S. To obstruct the influx of fo - emigrated from Prussia, Venice, Hanover, attempt to steal into the Austrian domi- BERLIN, DEC. Ss. intelligence has been received here that -,tz and Marienwerder, on • the right bank of ila, have been occupied since the 19th in- Prussian troops—they have also occupied COPENHAGEN, lAN. 2. the 24th ult. there appeared a decree of his Majesty, containing the following provisions: ?lish property, and merchandize of English which shall not before the 15th of At*ust ceased to be the property of that natioa, ave Ito the Royal treasury-2. Such property the crown, shall be sold by auction, unless it applied to the immediate wants of the. 'State, service of his Majesty. The Cu,storo-house are to provide that no caatrabaact articles are in in the country. reported from Stockhatn, that A • e of ra • k is about to sftackfro*.ime,e4 for 'etersbursh. CONTESTED ELECTIONS. On the Motion of the CUANCZLLOR tithe Ex exegete, the Order of the House made on the 22d of June last, respecting the days for taking into consideration Petitions complaining of undue returns was discharged, and the following days were ap. pointed for determining the merits of the under-mentioned Pe titions : Feb. Feb. Banbury 2 \ Sussex 16 Saltash . Z double 2 Dublin University 16 Chippenham S returns 4 Renfrew 16 Saltashright 9 Nottingham in Horsham 9 Penrvhn 23 . Evesham 11 Mr. Swan gave notice, that he should on a future day move to postpone the hearing of the Renfrewshire Petition until the 24th of March. A similar notice was given with respect to the Horsham right Petition. AFFAIRS OF OUDE. Lord viscount FOLKSTON& gave notice, that on this day fort night be should bring forward a Motion for the purpose of fixing a day to take into consideration the Papers respecting the Affairs of Oude. OFFICES IN REVERSION. Mr. BANIZS..—" Mr. Speaker, on Monday next 1 shall clove for leave to bring in a Bill to prevent the Grants of Offices In Re version."—( Crier of hear, hear !) IN TO Mr. GEORGE PONSONST= On Monday se'nnight I shall move for the production of Papers touching the Expedition to Co penhagen." ORDERS OF COUNCIL. An Hon. Member gave notice that he would on Tuesday nen submit a Motion for restraining the issuing Orders in Council for Licences to Trade, otherwise contrary to law. PRIVATE PETITIONS AND BILLS. On the Motion of the CMAPICtLLOR of the EICHZQUILR, it was ordered, That no Private Petitions be received after the 26th of February ; no Private Bills after the 26th March ; nor Reports of the same after the 16th of May. Mr. WRIT asked, when the House might expect the Papers on the subject of the late conferences would be prod duced The CHANCELLOR of the Ex citrons was not preparrd ex actly to name the day, but certainly they would be laid before the House in a day or two.