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KEY, MA rot. IN a Meeting or Assembly of the MAYOR, ALDERMEN, and LIVERYMEN of the several companies of the CITY of LONDON, in Common Hall assembled, at the Guildhall of the said City, on MOXDAY, the 4th day of July, 1831 ; RESOLVED UNANIMOUSLY, b lllll` • z-. ••••• .__•.-._ ..,--..--7--_- - -r--- - - 0 1 I) 1, ( 0 ---- -' : ' J'- ; - • . \ PI 1 \ '\X 1 1 I KA CTic t , va Isla w xxx . . tinos&expro 0 . - 1788. the unpkatant position of being included in schedule but they were deserving of notice, from th e f act wished for no exclusive privilege. An HON. MEMBER said, he should bring the forward in the Committee on the Bill ; for if cortixt principle had any influence in the promotion of the , Bill, the prayer of the petitioners could not but tended to. That the Thanks of this Meeting be given to Sir Chap. man Marshall, Knight, and Sir William Henry Poland, Knight, Sheriffs of the City of London, for their judicious, able, and impartial conduct during the continuance of this Election. WOODTHORPE. COALS FOR ROYAL MARINE BARRACKS AND INFIRMARIES. VICTUALLING OFFICE, 28th June, 1831. COMMISSIONERS for VICTUAL LING his MAJESTY'S NAVY, le. do hereby notice, That on Wzreessoar, the 13th day of July next, they will be ready to receive Tenders in writing (sealed up), and treat for the supply (on separate Contracts for each place) of all such quantities of :one or other of the following de scriptions of COALS, as shall be demanded for the use o the Royal Marine Barracks and Infirmaries at the under mentioned places : pomp:lox or COALS. Lambton's Walls I End, Stewart's Walls End. Hetton'sWallsEnd, NV, Or Marine ►OE WHAT PERIOD Marine Barracks,' Deptford ; \Urine Barracks and Infirmary, Woolwich ; larine Barracks Russell's Hetton ✓jt Melville Hos- Walls End, pital, Chatham ; Marine Barracks, Russell's High Marine Artillery Main, or Barracks, & Ma- Ilobart'sWallsEnd rine Infirmary, Portsmouth ; From the date of the Contract until the 31st of December, 1832. Springwell's Walls End Main, I Marine Barracks Usworth's Main,R osa ,. High and Infirmary, Plymouth ; Main, or Hobart's Walls End . The Conditions of the Contracts may be seen at this Office, and at the Office of the Commissioners for Vic. tualling, resident at Deptford, Portsmouth, and Plymouth. Each Tender must specify the price in words at length, and be delivered before One o'Clock on the Day ap. pointed ; and the Person who makes the Tender, or some Person on his behalf, must attend to answer when called for. M. WALLER CLIFTON. From the 15th of Sept. n. xt un til the 31st De. cember, 1832. (NOM:LES COMPOUND ANTI-BILIOUS %../ PILLS, for Bilious, Liver, and Stomach Complaints, Indigestion, Sick Had-ache, &c. Patronised by the fol lowing Noble and Distinguished Personages : His Grace the Duke of Grafton His Grace the Duke of Manchester Right Hon. the Earl of Guildford Right lion. the Earl of Athlone Right Hon. the Earl of Roscommon Rght Hon. Lord Bentinek Right Hon. Lord Fitzroy Lord Hartland Right Rev Lord Bishop of Durham Right Rev. Lord Bishop of St. Asaph Sir Henry Smyth, Bart. James B. Wildman, Esq. M.P. Matthew Wood, Eaq. Alderman M.P. Reverend Dr. Miller, Dedham, Alderman, Reverend J. F. Grant, Wraboess, Essex Reverend Thomas Scott, Bromle y, Kent Reverend Henry Hutton, Colchester Reverend John Edger, Chaplain to his Majesty Reverend William '.l arsh, Colchester 11 . d John Carr, Holbrook, near Derby Reverend J. Blundell, (7rowland, Lincolnshire Reverend J. Harrison, Duffield Bank, near Derby Reverend J. H. Mallory, Mobberly, Cheshire Reverend John Wilson, Broughton, Leicestershire Reverend Rowland Hill, Surrey Chapel Major-General Benthrek Colonels. —Bentinek, Gower, Parry Majors —Bridge. Lynch, Frankland, Prepared only by James Cockle, Apothecary, 19, New Ormond -street, Queen-square, London ; and sold in Boxes at Is lid ; 9s. 9d ; 4s. 6d; lls; and 995. by all respecta ble Venders of Patent Medicines throughout England and Wales, Scotland, Ireland, the East and West Indies, and the Continents of Europe and America . — Who lesale Agents, Barclay and Sons. Of the same Venders may also be had, COCKLE'. RHUBARB and GINGER PILLS, a Mild Stomachic Aperient, for Weak and Delicate Constitutions.—These Pills are prepared with especial care, and are Intended chiefly for persons of Weak and Delicate Constitutions, and such as only require a very Mild Aperient Medicine. As a Dinner Pill they will be found highly beneficial, afford. ing speedy and effectual assistance to the Digestive Organs. —Sold in Boxes, at ls. lid ; 2s. 9d ; 45. 6d ; 111 ; and .c:2.4. Observe, the Stamp on each Box, is signed by the Proprietor. " Domus et platens uior."—Hoa. Thy house, and (in the cup of life, That honey-drop) thy pleasing wife. HAPPINESS " the gay to-morrow of the mind" is ensured by marriage; " the strictest tie of psrpetual friendship," is a gift from Heaven, cement ing pleasure with reason, by which, says Johnson, "we approach in some degree of association with celestial in telligence." Previous, however, to entering into the hallowed ob. ligation of marriage, it becomes an impressive duty, not only to regulate the passions, but to cleanse the grosser nature from those impurities which the freedom of unre. striced plcacure may have entailed upon it. To the neglect of such attention, are attributable many of those hapless in stances which, while they tithe the commiseration of the beholder, should also impress him with the fear of self-re proach. Luxurious habits will effeminise the body—a residence in the tropics will relax the elastic fibre—but more espe cially does the premature infatuation of youth,too frequently compromise the natural dignity into a state of inanition, from whence the agonised sufferer more than doubt■ the chance of relief. To all such then, we address ourselves, offering hope —energy—muscular strength—felicity ; nor will our advances appear questionable, sanctioned as they are by the multiplied proofs of twenty years' successful experience. The easy cares of married life are sometimes disturbed by the suspension of those blessings which concentrate the nuptial wreath--for the female habit is often constitutionally weak—yet it can be strengthened, and deficient energy im proved into functional power. In every case of syphilitic intrusion, as well as in every relaxation of the generative economy, we pledge our ability to cure speedily, and with effect. Earnestly solicitous to expel the unfeeling empyric from the position so presump. tuously taken up, we deviate from general principles with less hesitation ; and confident in our own honourable in tegrity as Members of the College of Surgeons, we refer the buffering community of either Sex (especially those en. tering into matrimonial life) at once to our house, where daily attendance is given for personal consultation ; and Liters from the country are immediately answered; these trust contain a remittance for Advice and Medicine, de. scribing minutely the case, which can be forwarded to any part ut dr,: world, however distant. No difficulty can occur, as tilk! Medicine will be securely packed, and carefully pro 'ated from observation. GOSS and Co. (1%1.11.C. Surgeons,) 11, Bouveric-street, Fleet -street, London. *,,* Just published (Twentieth Edition). THE ./EGIS GF LI FE, a familiar Commentary on the above Diseases. II 1 . 6 HIA NA, addressed exclusively to the Female S`x•--11. The STPH !LIST, a Treatise on Lues Venerea, Genorrhma, May be had at 23, Paternoster-row ; 39, P.dl-mall ;4, Latherine.street, Strand, London; Porter, 72, Grafton lrect, Dublin ; tai, Trongate, Glasgow ; 9, Calton-street, Edinburgh ; Wrightaon, Birmingham ; Duffield, Bath ; it!.l, Bristol ; Weller, Cheltenham ; Loder, Brighton ; " ootio Huntingdon; Hatt, Cambridge Trewman, Exeter; Deck, Ipswich; Hobson, Leeds; Gore and Son, Liver. 1' 001 ; Sowkr, 3lanchester ; Platt and Todd, Sheffield ; -tacon and Co. Norwich ; Haddon and Lowndes, and Matter, .)siord; Uralic and Dowding, Salisbury ; and of all Book. ..:Hers. —Price s. each. N°. 13,827. Let the Axe Strike at the Root, the Poison-tree will fall; And where its venom'd exhalations speed Ruin, and Death, and Woe, where millions lay Quenching the serpent's famine, and their bones Bleaching unbaried in the putrid blast ; A garden shill arise, in loveliness Surpassing fabled Eden." rrHE Nobility, Gentry, and Public, are most 1. respectfully informed, that the AUTHENTIC RECORDS OF THE COURT OF ENGLAND For the lea Seventy Years, wilt epeedlly be published, la defiance dell attempts and overdoes to mappens them This unique and extraordinary Volume will be published as soon u possible. and particulars will be made known by advertisement previous to its appearance. ROME COLONIZATION. Mr. William Atkinson of Leeds has published a Plan of Home Colonization for gradually liqui dating the national debt, reducing pauperism, and giving to the destitute the means of obtaining comfortable provision by their honest labour, whereby the two great incitements to crime (want of employment and hunger) will he greatly dimi nished, and an immense saving to the nation at large, be effected. It is annually to expend 500,0001. in Home Colonization, which, if the measure be persevered in 18.51 years, will produce 18,708,0001. and by 1880 produce 160,293,3071. which expended in the purchase of 3 per cent. stock, at 82i, would, in 50 years, amount to up wards of two'hundred millions, by an annual grant of only :500,0001. for the first fifty years. The land colonized would give provision to nearly five millions of the population by the settlement of 1,120,000 families. Hume colonization is capable of being carried into effect to any extent that may be requisite, at about one-fourteenth of the cost of foreign coloni zation, if put in execution in Ireland ; in Eng:and it might cost about one-seventh of the sum per in dividual that foreign colonization has required, and might be discontinued and resumed, as the state of the country should demand. Home colonization would gradually reduce pau perism and poor rates ; ultimately reduce them to a very small amount; and in nearly the same ratio it would reduce crime, (by removing the two most powerful incitements, want of employment and hunger,) and the loss sustained by the public in depredations, robberies, &c. which have latterly been much increased by the causes above men tioned, would almost cease, if the privations were removed, that have been so long severely felt by the productive class. The plan is meant for Ireland on account of various interesting and important reasons ; and the estimated cost is not intended to be stated at less than what is considered fully adequate, viz. 31. per acre. The number of acres proposed to be colonized annually is 160,000 ; the cost of which, estimated at £3 per acre, amounts to 480,0001. being 20,0001. annually less than the estimated grant. The interest of money arising from the rents, &c during twenty years, amounts: to 3,539,5801. which is not appropriated or taken into any calcu lation as proceeds of the increase ; and as the estimate for colonizing 2,240,000 acres, at 31. per plantation acre, is only 6,720,0001. the sum not taken into calculation as made use of, or any way appropriated, being more than half of the total estimated cost, it may be confidently considered more than equal to the casualties, &c. that may occur. Further, in the calculation of all interest, no credit has been taken on any sum below the amount of 1,0001. and a discount of five per cent. upon the rental, amounting to 84,0001. annually, is also allowed in the calculation of proceeds from 1850 to 1880. The interest is calculated at three and a half per cent. It must also be noted that the amount al debt which the measure appears capable of liqui dating is not 165,903,3071. of three per cent. stock, but that amount of sterling money laid out in the purchase of stock, which, at the present price of stock. is equal to upwards of 200,000,0001. The rents arising from land, colonized upon the above plan, would, in less than ten years, be greater than the annual grant required for its prosecution ; and as it is intended to be applied in liquidation of the National Debt, could it be considered a devia tion from duty in the Commissioners, at present intrusted with that measure, appropriating from the fund set apart for the extinction of the debt, the amount necessary for the prosecution of home colonization, which appears richly worth achieving, if the measure should cost five times the sum at which it is estimated. SUMMARY. Ist. Home colenization will give the means of obtaining comfortable subsistence to all who may be willing and able to labour for it. 2d. The present system of poor rate. in ten years from :his time. ccmpared with the same period under a system of home colonization, would probably make a difference in fa vour of colonization of 3,000,0001. annual saving. Home colonization will als• prevent, in an equal , the commission of crime ; and consequently the ex. peons entailed on the country in prosecuting, &e. as well as individual loss. And equal to Its extent, will le the continued increase in consumption of produce and manu factures. 4th. There is in the united empire more than four times the quantity of waste land that will be requisite to complete the system of home ctionisstion to a greater extent than is at present requisite. THE LATE SEPARATION IN HIGH LIFE.— Lady Caroline Neal has commenced proceedings in the Consistory Court of London, against 111 r. Neal, her bus. ban 4, fur restitution of conjugal rights. A citation was served upon Mr. Neal at Colston's HoteL The forthcoming cause in the Consistorial Court, for a restitution of conjugal tights, is likely to give pub licity to a curious correspondence between the two prie. eipal parties, both previously and subsequently to marriage. In the latter portion of the correspondence the lady openly declares the nuoiiers which actuated her in forming a union with her weahby husband. The parties resided together only 14 days! TUESDAY EVENING, JULY 5, 1831. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. Jots' 4. Counsel and witnesses were heard in Totem's Divorce 13111, and further proceedings postponed. CHOLERA mosso& Lord AUCKLAND laid on the table pima relating to the cholera morbus. _ Mr. Johnson, from the Treasury, prenatal the ninth, Te. port of the Commissioners of Public Aannots. rais commission Or TIM PEACE FOR TES COUTTY Or YORK. The Earl of HA ARWOOD/told be hall can the atter dam of their lanlships to a subject personal himself, wkh rawest to the otlicc he had the honour to boll ender his Ma jesty. It also concerned every individual who held the sta tion of Lord Lieutenant. His object was not to make any motion, but submit a statement of has, In the hope of ob taining some explanation from the noble and learned lord on the woolsack. He did not think it right to interfere with the jurisdiction exercised by the Lord High Chancellor in filling commissions of the peace. He did not deny the right of the Lord Chancellor to fill the office of magistrate In any com mission t but he claimed in this instance explanation upon an extraordinary circumstance :—ln July last, Mr. Michael Stocks, a magistrate of the West Riding of York, had an indictment preferred against him for perjury. The bill was brought before the Grand Jury at York, and whilst it was tinder discussion, a letter was received from Mr. Stocks, directed to the Foreman of the Grand Jury. The letter had a tendency to bias the jury on the indictment. By the Grand Jury the foreman was directed to give the letter to the judge, Mr. Baron Bayley, who received It in the open court, a nd transmitted it to hi& hlajesty's Secretary of State. The result was, that Lon' Lyndhurst, then Chancellor, or. dered the individual to be struck out of the commission.— Now the matter of which the noble earl had to complain was this: the noble and learned lord on the woolsack, notwith standing the commission remained open on the 13th or 14th of June, restored the individual on the 21st of June, and without application to him, the Lord Lieutenant, in order to know whether the individual was a fit person to be re stored to the comnahsion. Having considered this extra ordinary proceeding, he could not pass it over without some notice. The noble and learned Lord would perhaps say the individual having been indicted for perjury, and acquitted, he considered himself justified in restoring him to the con. mission, but there had been a departure from the usual course of proceeding which placed him (the Earl of Harewood) in a peculiar situation. When asked how he came to appoint the individual, he could only say he did not appoint him, but the Lord Chancellor. The question be had to put to the noble and learned Lord was, What could be his public reason for passing him over in appointing to that office P The Lord Chancellor might think he had a right to pass him over, but he also had a right to ask for explanation, when, on the 14th of June, the commission was open. Why was not the appointment made at that time ? and why was the fiat of the noble and learned Lord in the crown °face on the 21st of June, without any application having been made to the lord lieutenant of the county ? What was there in the office he held to induce the noble and learned lord to pass hint over ? The LORD CHANCELLOR war ready to answer the noble lord's question :—" What was there in the office he held to dispose him (Lord Beeughainjte peas ever the advice of the noble lord ?" His answer was, nothing whatever.— He had no hostility towards the noble earl personally, nor to the high office that noble earl held. Ever since be had been in possession of the great seal, the conduct of that noble earl had met his entire approbation. He could appeal to many of the noble lords lieutenants who beard him, whe ther any former keeper of the seals had shown more defer. ens to their high office than himself: In the multitudi. nous correspondence he had lately received, containing ur gent applications to insert the names of gentlemen in the Commission, his answer was—" Go to the Lord Lieutenant; his advice is a mark for me—he is the responsible adviser of the great seal—he has knowledge which I have not." In some instances, when he had considered the claims of in -Idividuals as nothing without the sanction of the Lord Lieu. tenant, he had been told he was too strict. Mr. Michael Stocks was in the commission in 1818. There was a de mise of the Crown in 1820, sod he was recommended again to fill the office of magistrate by the noble lord himself. He continued to act till 1330, when another demise oc euned. A new commission was then issued, and the no ble lord again recommended Dlr. Michael Stocks to be in serted again in the commission. The noble and learned lord here complained that it was the first time in which a person holding the great seal had been put on his trial in that house by virtue of a card of els lines delivered at his breakfast table the same day. No notice had been given for particular lords to attend, but ample notice no doubt to some particular lords, to receive the complaint of a Lord Lieutenant against the Lord Keeper. Mr. Stocks was struck out of the commission in July, and what had oc curred since? Why, that which he was bolted by princi ples of law to consider favourable to Mr. Stocks. That in dividual had been put upon his trial, and, from information communicated by the learned judge, Mr. Justice Litdedale, the Lord Chancellor could not, in common justice to Mr. Stocks, do otherwise than re-invert his name in the commis sion. In so doing he bad followed the nde Lord Eldon 'mid down in Ottanlon's case. No man who had been in the commission of the peace was to be removed, unless duly convicted by a competent court of crime, or eeclared a bank rupt. Lord Eldon had gone further. That noble and learned lord kept a person in the commission, although the Custos Rotulorum endeavoured to strike him out. He knew nothing of Mr. Stocks, beyond having examined him as a witness upon the decuit. He had never received heal Lord Fitzwilliani, or Lord Milton, the least complaint of Mr. Stocks. He considered himself bound to put Mr. Stocks In the commission. 11 he had not done so, he should have been trying him for perjury, after the individual bad been acquitted by a jury. What would their lordships think, when he informed them that the individual had been sent before a jury for something he said in a Chancery cause thirty years ago? All the eltoesses who or aid have proved , him innocent were dead. The only witness living was the prosecutor. As the noble lord had recommend the indivi. dual, be concluded that his restoration to the commission will with the roble's lord's approbation. Lard NDII UIiST was desirous of explaining the grounds upon which he considered himself justified in sulk. mg Mr. Stocks off the commission. Mr. Michael Stocks, in a letter he addressed to himself (Lord Lyndhurst), Mated what had been the course of his conduct. The letter, which the noble and learned Lord read, admitted that he bad addressed a letter to the foreman of the Grand Jury stating the particulars of his case. After that avowal die noble and learned Lord thought it impossible to continue his name in the commission. The letter to the Grand Jury Lind Lyndhurst read. Mr. Stocks informed the Jury that the prosecution against him was supported by subscription, and that several of the witnesses the Jury would have to ex. amine were not to be believed on their oaths. The Noble and learned Baron said he had been libelled in the rapers of the county of York, end annoyed by anonymoas letters, charging him with improperly removing Mr. Stocks from the commission. He could not sec the offence committed by that individual in the same way it had been seer. Ly hia n able and learned friend. He did not dismiss him because an indictment was pending against him, but because he had been guilty of an indictable offence in seeding a letter to bias a Grand Jury. He thought it his duty to remove a gentle man from the commission, who, in his situation as a Magis trate, should hays been the last person to commit so serious an offence. He said this because he found the gentleman had been restored to the commission. He had not only sent a letter himself, but one of his family bad also sent a letter to the Grand Jury. At the same time he did not presume to dictate to his noble and learned friend, who might have whoa an Impartial and conscientious view of the cue. The LORD CHANCELLOR, in explanation, observed that some of the matters mentioned by his noble asd learned friend had not come to his knowledge. The Earl of H AREWOOD said, if be had supposed for PRICE SEVENPENCE. a moment that the noble and learned lord had not known all the facts, he should have delayed the obrervations be had thought it his duty to make on that occasion. The noble earl concluded by repeating that he considered it a duty, not only to himself, but to their lordships, to bring forward the present question. The LORD CHANCELLOR again stated that when he received a Hat, containing the name of Mr. Stocks, be pre stinted that that circumstance of itself was a sufficient recom mendation. He was sorry to differ in opinion with the no ble lord, and sorry that so much of their lordships' time should be taken up in discussing the point. Lewd LYNDHURST said one or two weals ta =ph nation. Lord A RDEN said a few words, which were =shyly W asiak below the bar, The Duke of WELLINGTON acknowledged that as far as be was concerned with the Lord Lieutenancy of a county, the noble and learned lord on the Woolsack had 'hewn the greatest courtesy. It appeared to him, how ever, that the noble and learned lord had acted on an erro neous impression in the present instance. Here the matter dropped. THE CORONATION. The Duke of WELLINOTtIN in4uired of the Noble Earl at the head of the Government if he had received any instructions relative to the celebrating of his present Ma jesty's coronation ? Earl GREY answered in the negative. If he gave it as his own opinion, however, the coronation of the Sovereign was a ceremony which ought to take place ; at the same tine he had to observe, that other ceremonies of the same kind had not taken pl ace till even after a longer lapse of time after the accession than had been the ease in the present instance. The inconvenience, heavy expense, and weighty matters which had agitated the public mind, might have deferred it. There was a solemn compact entered into be tween the Sovereign and his people at the coronation ; but he again repeated he had received no commands from his Ma jesty on the subject. The Marquis of CAMDEN presented some petitions from certain places in Kent, against the Beer bill. Viscount MELBOURNE in a few words observed that the Beer Laws and the complaints founded thereon, were at present under the consideration of his Majesty's Ministers. °VIRILE!' OF THZ POOL Lord TEINH A 1111 obtained leave to bring in a bill to alter and amend existing laws relative to the appointment of Overseers of the Poor. The Noble Lord contended that it was necessary to limit the present powers possessed by the Overseers of the Poor. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY moved that the order for the second reading of the Tithe Composition bill be discharged, and reappointed for Tuesday week.— ( Agreed to.) Lord DACRE gave a similar notice with respect to his bill on the same subject. LIEUTENANTS OF COUNTIES (IRELAND.) Viscount MELBOURNE, in moving the order of the day for the second reading of a bill for revising the laws re lating to the appointment of Lord Lieutenants of counties in Ireland, said that the object of the present bill was to transfer the powers held by various officers in the same county to the hands of one individual, a system which he believed would be very beneficial to Ireland. The Duke of WELLINGTON concurred In a great measure with the terms of the bill brought forward by the tsebk lord; in some counties the government was in the bands of five, three, and two persons, which occasioned the most serious evils. He looked at the bill, however, be con letuted, with some jealousy, because he was apprehensive it might lead to the extinction of the office of Lord Lieutenant for Ireland, which was greatly desired by a certain party; he considered that such a step would be the greatest misfor tune that could befal Ireland. There was a point in the bill to which he could not seamy viz. It appeared from It that the Lord Lieutenants of counties were to have power to ap point officers of militia. When the bill came into committee he should deem it to be his duty to move an amendment. that Lord Lieutenants have no such power committed to them, so long as the colonels of the regiments were alive, in which the appointments were to take place. Earl GREY said, that the principle of the present bill was sanctioned by very successful practice both in England and Scotland ; he trusted It would not be prejudiced from the ulterior objects which the noble duke appeared to feat ; it would no doubt be inexpedient at the present moment to discontinue the office of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland; the continuance of which was attended with great expense. When the bill came into committee, he should be ready to take into consideration the amendment of the noble duke. Lad LIMERICK approved of the bill. After a few words from Viscount MELBOURNE and Lord PLUNKETT, the bill was read a second time. LAW BILLS. On the motion of Lord WYNFORD, the Frauds upon Creditors Bill, and the delays lo Chancery Suits Bill, were severally read a second time, and ordinal so be committed on Tuesday week. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved for a return of the names of all persons at prment holding the office of Custos Rotulorum in Ireland. Their lordships then adjourned at a Quartet to Light HOUSE OF COMMONS. By the courtesy of the House of Commons, all those Members, who are in places at prayers, are deemed to be entitled to those seats for the rest of the evening of that day ; and also, if they have placed their names at the backs of seats, indicating that they will be present at prayers, those places are deemed secured. Yesterday there was evinced extraorditutry anxiety to secure seats, as the following curious statement will show s before seven o'clock in the morning, thirty Members were in the Hones, and took their seats by so affixing papers; before eight o'clock 160 places were dins taken ; and before ten o'clock there were 212 places taken. Of that 212, they were 107 places taken on the opposition side, and 106 on the ministerial side of the House, giving a majority of two against the Bill, if all those at the opposition side were opposition members, which, however, la far from being the awe, as the two and three benches have many supporta' of the bill, as Mr. Hume, Mr. Warburton, the O'Connells, &c. By noon, not a piste about the house appeared without these papers, (except the ministerial bench, which courtesy leaves) even in tile side galleries many places were taken. The gallery was opened at one o'clock, and was soon crowded to excess. STRUGGLE row ?Laces. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before four o'clock. The House was immensely full of Members at prayers. Mr. HUME wished some rule to be laid down as to the takintof places. Before ten o'clock his seat had been taken by Col. Lindsey. How he got in, be did not know. Now, as there was such a struggle for seats, it would be important that some general rule should be laid down. The SPEAKER said, that much must depend upon cour. tesy. He understood that being present at prayers only se cured scats ; but that the seats would be lost by divisions or summons it. the Lords. Colonel LINDSEY asked, whether the affixing of papera *mired the seats ? The SPEAKER understood, that the papers only regis tered he places—to secure them the Members must be in their places at prayers. Colonel LINDSEY obtained leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Act for the Incorporation of the Highlard Society. Lord MORPETH brought in a Bill for the Incorpota lion of the General Steam Navigation Company. Colonel ROCHFORT presented a petitinn from the County of Westmeath, against the Reform Bill. Ilia Hon. Colleague ►aid, it was not the petition of the County, but of some individuals.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. S'FRICKLAND presented two petitions from two places in the hundred of Holdemesa, in the county of York, praying that they might be jointly allowed to return repre sentatives to Parliament. The petitioners were plactd i The petitions were then ordered to lie upon the nenrcet. itTOlllll. Mr. HUNT 'presented a petition from the classes of Blackburn, which he said wait respectfulti and needed no reprobation, even from the tender the honourable member for Essex (Mr. 1T ellesley), signed by 6401 male adults of Blackburn, inelcdi.„ man who was to be excluded from a share iu the reproeni tion by the provisions of the Reform Bill. They were hostile to the Bill, but they conceived it would be Wan: to satisfy the just demands of the productive classes eels!, and that they the producers of property, were ext..] they viewed with alarm the enormous weight of taxati standing army and the national debt, and dieyprayed an situation might be matig io the bill as would gip due share in the representation ; they prayed for annt ments, universal suffrage, and vote by ballot. He thoriscd to state, that the petitioners would have wail the operation of the reform bill, bad it not rot been I conditions which bad been last Session given to some statements made in this house by • him (Mr. Hunt had also a petition from Manchester signed by 40,09, sons, upon the same subject and with the same prayer. petitioners were not factious s, or anxious to deft measure before tbe bowie ; tra n s they had for years tended for that for which they now prayed, they couli allow the present opportunity to pass without enforcing the attention of parliament. Deputies from many el the:country had waited upon him, and stated that wafted upon many members of the house, in some upon some ministers, who had advised them to the bill passed, and that would give what they a (Hear, hear, front the opposition.) He had given put!es no advice upon the subject, but he had inf them, !hat if they sent petitions to him, respectfully (Hear, from Mr. Wellesley) —yea, respectfully won the •gh he had been so incautious on a former • would not incur the lion. gentlemen's cheer. He that this country would never be cheerful and happy until those measures wete adopted. There never w. peace wail every male adult who paid taxes was all vote, which he conceived would be one in every six persons. (Hear, hear.) The petition was ordered to he printed. Mr. HUNT then presented a petition front Mcliarti ran, of Somerville, in the county of Dublin, gentleman. ' elaining of the elects of the Legislative Union, to attributed all the disursaes of Ireland, and prayit repeal, as the only means of bringing buck peace to He regretted that these petitions were entrusted to stead of the bon. number for Kerry, who it seen., was so absorbed on the question of reform as to allow the question of as: repeal of the Unicn to lie dormant. (Hear.) He (Mr. Hunt) had been informed ly all his Irish correspoe dents, ilia, the reform bill was only a steppingstone towards the repeal of the Union. (lieu.) Mr. O'CI 'NNE IL should like to know whether the hon. member could do anything else to retard the progress of the reform bill. (loud cheers.) It was wholly unfounded to state, that the question of reform was looked to as a Prep. ping stone to the repeal of the union ; the object of ti e bill was to obtain cheap government and cheap institution'. ; and the people of Ireland were calumniated, when it was said they wished for a separation from this country; although a local legislature would be desirable for them, they are willing to make an experiment of the effects of the reform bid in a reformed parliament, and to see if they could obtain good government and cheap ins stations. ( Hear, hear.) As to the honourable member for Preston presenting so many Irish petitions, he had presented four of them, a d the present one was segued only by ohe person, and in order to give it greater effect, it was enuusted to the honourable mein bee. (Laughter.) .1•• • Mr. HUNT observed, if the hono ura bl e mem b er t ho ug ht N that the house would be deceived by hint (lie. pit), or by the honourable member's atektacy, it was alone. take--(murmurs)--he meant only political apotttocy.— (k.ughter)—having, in the presence of 36,6011 persons at the It gle Tavern, stated uar. he wait for annual parlia ments and tutiveuhd suffrage, by which he would stand and die, he now turned round lead bedaubed his pleastia (Laughter.) Mr. O'CONNELL said he was of lilted to the bor. -rem. bee for his politeness. (Loud laughter.) He (Mr. teems. nell) wished the hon. member would be an apostate to this extent, that from being the long prectie,tl enemy of re'orm he won d become even neutral. (Cheers.) Ile (Mr. O'Con. nell had always been a radical reformer, but instead of annual puliatnenta, he stated on the occasion referred to by the honourable member for Preston, that hr was the advocate for triennial parliaments. He did then -peak of universal suffrage, and the reastm he did not el w ad vocate it was, that he thought the proposed Mtn Bill would have the effect of musing the people to i.e. ef fectually and substantially, and act noininally. repre. seated. (Cheers.) Mr. SLANRY lamented these di.cessions ; they were most unjust towards the bill. Petition ordered to lie on the table. Lord DUNCANNUN presented .in estimate of ex. perses of the proposed il'aterlim.etteet.—Ord.r.d to be printed. lIETOIM BILL---(ENGLAND.) Lord J. RUnSEL L moved the second reading of tl:e Frig- Bah Reform NIL He did so re.thout making any te , mask.] •. Mr. ESTCOURT said preriou'ly to the order of the dat being read, he wished to addiess a question to vie eliancel lor of the Exchequer relative to a circumstance whit!' had tnutspirA, and given great uneasiness to a W i ttily respecta ble individual. He alluded to Mr. Gretzsoi in hapset to the alteration that had been made in the Reform Bill, and he wished to have it stated now to the Briti,h public, who bad been much abused relative to this niewure with n spect to Mr. Orepon, whether he was or was not in any way wnat. ever to blame ? (Hear.) Lord ALTHORP said, the circumstance to which the boo. gentleman alluded was a statement, be rupi.ostd, whi,li bad appeared during the hat week in sonic of the rublic papers, reflecting on the conduct of Mr. Grcgson, by insi. Dusting that he tad made an alteration in the &Mini Bull unwarranted by Government. He (Lord Althorp) had tel seen the statement, but the moment he was told of it tae mentioned the circumstance to Ale. Grepo.). and a tul should take the first opportunity of stating to the hou.t. that Mr. Gregson had nothing to do in the concern, nor had he. The proposition wu made by Govtrnment for the alteration in the right of toting to rents passible half-yearly, instead of leaving it in the way it was before. This was intenel.d for the sole purpose of rendering effective the value of the 101. occupation, and only for restriving any thing below Oat. Undoubtedly his Majesty's ministers were bound to admit that they had fallen into a mistake, u they were hot aware that in nuking t h at proposition they would by it i 1..• fauselliee so many individuals. lininedblUtely this wa4 fi s urveyed they determined to abandon the alteration at ores. Mt. 0. wu perfectly free from imputation on the subjec. He hod said there would be some difficulty wising trmo the alteration, but this observation was made by Mr. lirtgsoll after Government had determined to make it, ar.d, there :ore, he had requested Mr. G. to proceed in the prepara tion of it. Mr. ESTCOURT could not admit that the noble lord's statement was altogether satisfactory. If he (Mr. E.) was conettly informed, Mr. G. bad pointed out the consequence ins very able manner that would arise from this alteration, aud notwithstanding that the noble lord had directed him to proceed ; and if the nuttier was left to go faith to the public as it now stood upon the noble lord's statement, it would appear that Mr. 0. had not been clear and precise in sh::t he had said. No one who knew ti.. G. would ever doubt the precision and ability with which he must be presumed to have trade his statement; under such circumstances, the men.ber hoped the noble bind would not hesitate io state that neither pi ofetnionally, directly or indirectly, amid any Warne be attached to Mr. Grcgson. Lord A LTHtrRY had no difficulty in repeating what he had said before, that, in his opinion, no blame was to be at tached to Mr. Grcgson. At the same time be felt bound to observe, that Mr. °neon did not state to him, accordii g to his recollection, and probably his nobl e friend ( L ord John 'Russell) could bear hint out in that recollection,that therents were not paid half-yearly. and. tI at therefore so many wool be disfranchised. He did rot give him to understand tli. t any thing Mc the disfranchising extent to which the clau.r would have got* Lad JOHN RUSSELL'. hnpressioa of what tort place was the sure as that of the noble Lord who had just kir down. When the alteration agreed upon by his klajeety's government was communicated by his Noble Frierd (laid Althorp) and himself to Mr. Gregson, that gentler an pain there would be objections ajjainit it; and uninublally h. ;i 11 :" • . Ii 17- • ':. / inn • . , hedule A, that they i he subject "latency of to Reform . but be at. t table. • e worleiv, Ily worded, . r nerves of k, J ,) . It was ding every , II reprc.enta. i. y wtrc not Mall quate uses ct so- excludtsl; I; xatien, the t.' d that such 41. in them a lual /inha- le was au- waited for • een for the OTC of the .1 unt.) Ile , 11,090 per- . rarer. The ) defeat the years eon. I could not •.1 • , wcing it on y glace" in !‘ they hal ; o'. e instances wait until wished.— ik yen the de. informeed lly word. d voided, for night, Im e repeated, appy main 1 i : r would Le t allowed to 1 .., !ry live or read, and I 1 . 'chard M t a. t I ernan.com. t o which he if' ing fro /Is ; to Ireland. ! .o him M. ems was so • • f e question • ear.) He correspor- -1( me towards I . 1 ter the lion. ► xess of the ',- founded to it as a step. t of tie bill I t Won" ; and t . t was said although a n , are willing in bid in a ' I L ibtain good . . tr.) As to e ' so many •