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3 - &AR LLIMENT4fitr PROCEEDIsGS. xousr OP LORDS, MONDAY, JULY 4. agnsl ol - - Ceunfel Was h nrd in the Appeal Bethute anal hlackreth. •The farther confideration pokoned. Several hills were brought up from the Commons, which were read a fira time. The Royal Affent was given by Commlffion to faveral public and private Bil t ; among whieh were the Tonnage Duty Bill, the finhakern OB:ers Bad° he B Hirst Oath Bill, the Highland Canal Bill, and the health Waiters to the Signet Widows Relief Silt—. 'The Commiffirmers were, the Lard Chancellor, Lords Ahranley and Willingham. 'fist Scotch Additional Form Bill was committed. ♦RMY OF RIFSIRIM Lnrd Hor ART moved the Order of the Day for the Houle refolving itfelf into a Committee on the Army of Referve Bill. In the Committee. Lord SUFFOLK had no intention of putting any delay in the way of the Bill at prefent, as it was an objea of In great importance that difpatch should be made. He willed, however, as a military man, to fay fomething refpcling the (late of the country, and what he conceived to be the belt plan of military de. fence. This might be extremely ufeful to the Mini flry, and a difctalion on that fubjeft might enable them to form more adequate conceptions of the de fence which the country required, and therefore would be worthy of their deka attention, efpecially as there was hardly a military man in the Cabinet.— lie wifhed therefore to know at whin period it might be in order for him to date his opinions on the fabled of defence? Lord WMAINGRaII replied, that it would be out of order to enter upon any fuck difeuifion at pretest, and therefore the Noble Lord would pollpone any tiling that he had to fay on the principle of the Bill till another tiage. The different claisfes were then read, till the Clerks came to that one which renders it lawful that MA. fates Otould be provided by th9fe who might be bal. lotted, when The Duke of Comae LAND role, and expreffed his difapprobation of any thing that fhould go to throw any delay in the way of the Bill ; and trolled that any intentions of contributing to that delay would not be imputed to him. He praifed the energy which the Mini flry had difplayed on the prefent oceation ; and to the principles of the Bill he thought there could be no objeflion, fo far as it went. He regret ted that, inflead of 50,000, the Bill did not gn to raife t 00,000, which he was perfuaded might be done, eonlidering the martial ardour that at this moment exifted in the country. He confidered the militia, upon the priociple of which the prefent meafure was founded, as the conftitutional force of the country. Their were three defcriptions of men mentioned in the Bill, Volunteers, Balloted Men, and Subnitutes. The amendment which he meant to propofe related to the lalk mentioned daft. No man could be more *eerie than he to the praftice of employing force to compel foreign fervice. For the defence of home, Government had a right to call nut, upon emergency, every man capable of beating arms. To apply the fame principle to foreign fervice, would be certainly en croaching too m uch u post the feelings of Britifh fubjeds. But with regard to fubftitutes, a material difference seined with refpeft to them and the balloted men. They were properly perfons who were paid for their Cervices in the fame way as recruits fur the regular troops, and with regard to them, little delicacy with rept& to the li*tits of their fervices was required.— He therefore wilhed, that the fervices of fubftitutes &mild be extended to any part where his Majefty might plezfe to order them. This alto would be the means of affording an equal chance to the recruiting fervice for the line, daring the period that the Army of Referve was railing. His Highnefs then entered into an animated eulogium on the fpirit of his coun trymen. Hedefcribed the fuperior e ffi cacy that muff attach to the troops of the Line in every &nation, and the great importance that mull be afcribed to any plan that tended to conwibute to the augmenta tion of that force. At the fame time he declared his high refpea for the Militia and Volunteer Corps. He concluded by moving that a claufe to the cleft that envy perfon who came into the Army of Referve as a fubilitute fhould be liable to ferve during the war and fix months after, in any place to which his Ida jetty might fee fit to fend him. Lord HOBART would not trefpars npon the atten tion of the Houfe, by entering upon the principle of the Bill at that time. It was much the fame as what he formerly Rated to the Houle to be in contempla tion of Government. Witirrelpeß to the amendment of the Noble Duke, he was forry that he could not agiee to it. In his apprehenfion, it would go to alter the principle of the Bill, which was to provide a force, immediately, for the home defence, and not for foreir.n fervice. To render fubftitutes liable to foreign tervice, would increafe the expence of thofe individuals who fhould be obliged to procure them. Arrangements were made, by which this force fhould be added to the regular regiments, and no doubt a great many would voluntarily enter into the regular ferrite, for which every opportunity and encourage• silent was held out to them. To adopt the propoti tion of the Noble Duke, would go materially to in mate the difficulty of railing thin force for home defence, and might confiderably retard the execution of the meafure. A balloted man might only he •Liable to procure a perfon to do the duty which it would be incumbent upon himfelf to perform, pro& sided he chofe to ferve perfonally. He therefore eoncluded by op ling the amendment. Lcrd Mote* deprecated delay andiongharangues on the precut meafure. The country required an insmodiate force, and that the regiments of the line Ihould be filled up fame way or another. • 'He dif. played the advantages that would refolt from having • dirporable force, in order to oblige the enemy to attend foinewhat to their own defence, inftead of taming their whole force and attention to the invafion of this country. He knew one brigade, confining of four regiments, which altogether could fcarcely Ming into the field 6no men.—Several other regiments were *Jason fkeletons. The Noble Secretary of State had anted. that arrangements were made, by which the new sailed troops (humid he incorporated with the =of the line. The drat of that would be to all tl•efe at home. or if a regiment was. or dered abroad, the new troop. nuift be turned over to foam other regiment, and the vacancy filled up by ira/sing. He civet:cited that mode of proceeding, wlsieli was calculated to weaken the energy of ,the user. be bards thgfeeliossAd the tolsiieta Tt wee O ' tO, ifitekto be 11.1 recolufs to, c;. • T ' • - • ' e • t le - . eept in the laR emergency. There was a 'wide dif ference between the flatement of the Noble Secretary of State on a former occafion and the preterit mea. furs. As the propoiltion of the Noble Duke went to remedy many of the inconveniences that attached to the prefent Bill, he fliould vote for it. The im portance of the fubjea would, he hoped, be his ex cure for trefpaffing thus long pn the attention of the Houfe. Lend MULGRAVR oppofed the amendment, im poring an unjua and partial taxation upon thole in dividuals who Gould be balloted for the army of rcferve. The prefent 101, confidering it as a part of a plan, did every thing that could be expetted for a meafure that required difpatch. He aim oppofed the amendment, on account of the difficulties it would occafion in railing the troops. There was a line drawn between foreign fcrvice and home defence, which could not without danger be paired ; and he agrled that the Noble Duke's amendment would go to deßroy the principle of the bill. He thought that this plan was an excellent one for recruiting the re giments of the line, and he was jußified in this opi nion by what had taken place with refpeet to the Militia, from which 40,000 men had been obtained during the laft war. He advifed, that for Come time the old regiments Gould be filled up with the new railed troops, on account of the dilcipline that thus would be in a fhort time acquired by the latter Upon the whole he coafidered the prefent as the bell meafure that could be adopted. There were many parts of the bill to which he in another fituation would be difpofed to objea ; but feeling the neceffity which at this moment exifted for difpatch, he would conclude with negativing the amendment. Lord HOBART explained. Lord CARLIRLI was fenfible of the neeeEty cf difpatch. Here they fat, he obferved, in the begin. ning of July, deliberating upon a fyftem of defence, when we might every moment eared to hear that our enemies were at lea. In the month of Novem ber Minifters mutt have conjeftured that the difenf fions would end in a rupture—then a plan of defence might have been organized. It might have been done when the Houk received his Majefly's Mefrage relative to the French armaments. It ought to have been done when war was declared. A defence of fome fort was, however, neceffary; and he would fay nothing more. lea he ihould throw improper de lay in the way of the meafure. Lord GROSVENOR was entering with confiderable warmth upon the defence of the bliniftry againft the attacks of the lift fpeaker, when he was called to or• der by Lord Mulgrave, between whom, Lords Car lifle, Grofvenor, Lowther, Camden, and the Lord Chancellor, a eonverfation of ionic length took place on the point of order. Lord Grofvenor agreed at laft to pottpone his obfervations to another Rage. The Duke of CUMBFRLAND agreed to withdraw his amendment, and upon the queftion whether it ihould be withdrawn? Lord SPINCER would not at this moment flay to inquire by what means the country was reduced to its prefent Rate of emergency : but taking that faa as undeniable, he certainly would not but agree with the Noble Secretary (Lord Pelham), that infant means of Pelf-defence were abfolutely neccifary. He himfelf, tinder any other circumilances of the coun try, fbould, doubdcfs, feel much rcluaance to a mea lure of this nature He had many objeaions to the provifion of the Bill, but thole being of Leifer import than the taking of immediate meafures of national defence, he fhould, on this occafion, altogether de cline entering into them. He was.one of thofe who not thinking lightly of the Militia, yct thought a re gular army the molt adequate and proper military eflablifbment even with a view to the very purpofes ' of felf-defence. He perceived there was a provifion in the Bill enabling the men to enter into die regular army. Although effeaual means might have been taken, fuch, in his opinion, was the extreme urgency of the prefent moment, that he would not bring himfclf to hate objetlions that might tend to impede a meafure of fuch over-ruling necethty as an imme diate increafe cf our military force. Lord Mu Loma Paid a few words in favour of the meafure. Lord D was proceeding to give his opinion on the principle of the Bill, whea he was called to order by The LORD Cuancst.toa, who, after noticing the irregularity of difeuEng the principle of the bill in a Committee, obferved, that it might in future become a queftion whether any order of that Houfe (hould be obferved. This called up Lord HOBART, and produced a (port converfation on the <lgnition of or der and the prattice of that Houfe, between his Lord. (hip, the Lord Chancellor, Lord Darnley, and Lord Mulgrave. The queltion was then put, and the amendment of the Dake of Cumberland was withdrawn. Lord Waesimotrara then proceeded to Rate the queßion on the original claufe. Lord Se rectee prefented birofelf and raid, he wifh• ed dillinQly to be informed whether this was mill deved as a maitre tending' merely to increafe the military force of the country, or as one calculated to its defence in the prefent Rate of unexampled emer. gencr ? for if he was to confider it in the latter point of view. be bad many objeftions to its principle, which, if not efleemed out of order, he fhould now fubmit to their Lordfirips' confederation. Lord Mona, as to the claufe tha: went to prevent Government accepting the Cervices of the troops rail ed under this bill, thferved, that he could not diko- Ter the ufe of fucks a prohibition. Many opportuni ties might occur of affailing the enemy on their own flicres, to which the fpirit and alacrity of thefe troops might prompt them to volunteer ; why therefore, if fo inclined. fhould Government debar Will from the poflibility of accepting their patriotic and loyal offers? • Lord Hosaar fai that this provifion was adopt. ed to encourage men to enter thefe corps under an affurance that they as colt would not exceed the bounds of prefcribed Cervices. It was true, if indivi. duals chore, they might enter into other corps, whole Cervices were not limited. This. it was conceived, would anfwer every purpofe of general fcrvice, yet occafion a more ready entering into the Army of Referve. . No an(wer being given, Lo►d WALSIIIOIFAIS put the Tani,* on the original claufe r which being carried, the Bill was reported, and ordered to be read a third time to-n3oarow • Lord Muagarrt after a Sort introduftion moved, that the itAnding order ut the Houk, preventing sm bciog reed two Asses io one day bi dirpented with. _ The Loan Csanciat.os and Lewd Gansuanna feed a few words nn this fubjcSt, when the motion was agreed to—The Houle then Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. A Mefikge from the Lords Rated their affent to the Excite Ad ditional Duties Bill. At the requeft of their Lordikips, a copy of the evidence taken before the Committee on the Vfoollea Mann. radium Bill was ordered to be tranfm..•ted to them. The Houfe was fummoned by the Deputy L'her of the Black Rod to attend in the Houle of Peers where the Royal Arrant was given, by Commiffion, to feveral public. and private B.ila. On the S 'a return, he mentioned the titles of aide Bilis. [Sc. the Report of the Houfe of Lords.) The Port of London improvement Bill was read a third time, and paired. Anew Writ was ordered for the Eledtion of a Member for War getter, In the room of Edward Foley, F.fq. deceafed. The farther cunfideration of the Report of the kik Additional Farce BiU was poftporred to Wednefday ; and on the motion of Mr. Wickham the Houfe wee ordered to refolve Into a Committee to confider of a propofal for enabling the Lord Lieutenant of Ire land to mile Volunteers under the Paid Bill. The trills Duties Bill was committed, and the Report ordered to be received to-morrow. The Lottery Bill was reported, and o deed to be read a third time to-morrow. Mr. VANSITTAIT brought in the Five Million. Exchequer Bills Bill, which was read a firit time, and ordered to be read a fecund time to-morrow. Mr. HuTCIIINION gave notice that he would, to-morrow, move for an Account of the Stock in hand of the Englifh Dlitillerics. Sir Was. Putrx Ey propofed to move for 1,. ATI to bring in a Bill to carry into died the refolution of the Committee appointed to confider of credting a Light-houfe on the Bell Rock, on the EaR coaft of Scotland: on the fuggeition of the Speaker, however, the Hon. Baronet delayed his motion until the Report Should be printed. FRIENDLY SOCIETIEI,_ •ND ►OOL. Mr. ROSF brought in a Bill for readying millakes in the Regiltry of the Rules of Friendly Societies.— It was read a fiat time, and ordered.to be read a fe cond time tomorrow. _ _ Mr. Ron then proceeded to make a Motion, of which he had given previous notice. The meafure he had in view comprehended three objets. The Comfort of the Poor in old age ; idly, employing them, efpecially youth, in ufeful induftry; and; idly, the preve,,tion of crimes. If the Houfe fhould give him leave to bring in the Bill, for which he was about to move, it was his intention to fuggeft a much more Pimple meafure than any that had hitherto been prnpofed for the amelioration of the Pour Laws.— The meafure he had in view, was nothing more than fupplying materials for fchocls of induftry, and flimu hating the minds of the young to Tuber, induftrious habits. Plans had been adopted in Tome &hilts which he knew, in confequence of which the chil dren of the poor not only maintained themfelves, but tafted in the (Import of their parents. In one dif tnft in Lincnlnfhire, where pains had been taken to create a fpirit of induftry among the poor, chil dren, at the age of -13 or 14, earned five and fix Gil- Hogs a week; but in the fame diftrift, in the year 1777, out of So,oool. of poor -rates, moool. was ap plied to the fupport of the Poor, and the remainder (pent in journeys of the Overfeers and other Peril!' Officers. However wife it might be to get rid of the workhoufe fyftem, it was necefary before that was attempted, to fall on tome means of emplcying the Poor. He hoped the time would arrive when it would be found necettary to maintain none but children who had been defected by their parents in work houfes ; and there were not wanting examples that even fuck children might be better managed than they were by the parillses. Another objet he had in view, was to afcertain the number and &nation of the Friendly Societies in this country. Where. ever there were Friendly i Societies, a great proportion of the Poor were maintained by themfelves. The money thus raifed was laid out in the molt advanta geous manner for the State, as it was almoft always invefted in the public funds. Five or 600,0001. of Stock belong to the labouring poor of this country. It was his opinion that thole Societies ilsould be enti• tied to fume affiftance from the parithes, in conic. quence of their preventing fo great a proportion of the poor from becoming a bort hen upon the rates.- The money fupplied by the pariffies he would pro. pnfe thould be laid up by the Societies to Corns a fop. plemental fund for the fupport of their aged mem bers; from which a man, whole earnings in old age fell fhort of what he ufed to receive in the meridian of life, might have the deficiency fupplied. If a man had been accullnined to earn sos. 6d. and stow re-' ceived only Bs. or 9s. a week, he fhould be allowed as. or is. 6d. from this fund. He concluded by moving that leave begiven to bring in a Bill for pro curing Returns relative to the Expence and Main tenance of the Poor of England. BAST INDIA DOCKS. The EaR India Docks Bill was committed. Mr. CALCIAIT propofed a claufe for limiting the powers granted under the bill to 2 1 years. After fome con verfation this claufe was adopted, and the Report of the Committee was ordered to be received tomorrow. INFIBIOR CLERGY. Mr. BUXTON role to move for leave to bring in a bill for the relief of the inferior clergy. The objet of the bill would be to give or rather reflore to the Commillioners of Q2een Anne's Bounty the power of augmenting the revenues of poor curates, and to open a door to private benevolence for that purpofe : this was the original intention of the A& of Queen Anne, and fueh was its operation until it was alter ed by the A& of the 9th of George 11. The astute of (teen Anne, after the appropriation of the firli fruits, invites her Majelly's fabjefts to follow her ex ample by will or deed. The number of livings un der fifty pounds a year, he was well informed, was nearly fix thourand. This charity, therefore, flood as much in need of private aid as any other: In the debate on the Clergy Refidence Bill, the Chancellor of the Eschequer bad exprefed his with that route. thing (tumid be done for the relief of the poor clergy, even in the prefent fetfion ; but confidenng the bur thens which it MA% nece(ary to impure for the de fence of the country, he thought it would be better to retort to private benevolence, than to any public meafure for that purport. Imprefed by this fenti mint, he moved, that leave be given to bring in a bill for rendering more efFeitlual certain Ales of the ad and 3d of gluten Anne, for maintaining poor der gymcn.--Leave given. VATS /lUD MA US. The Houfe revived into a Committee of Ways and Means, in which Mr. Coate called to the recol. Ir,iion of the Hoofs what be bad dated on Saturday. refpeehng tbs hiOilcan. In cafe it Osould be found . Use t,os million, which was the proportion tithe Loan for 'rebut could sot, from the circonsltAncos of that country, be borrowed with advantage, it was thought sivifable, that the Lard Lieutenant ihould Lave the power of railing the fame fum by Loans on trcafury Bills. Thefe sills were precikry the fame as Exchequer Bills in ibis country. He movcit a Refolotion Tor raifidg ooe million to this :Rimer. which was agreed to, and the Report ordered to be made tomorrow.—Adjourned. LONDON. TUESDAY, JULY 5. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK% Omnium 7 4 61 74—Confols fur opg. 54 534 534. 3 per Cent. Red. S a 514-4 per Cent. Asn. 664 •4144 PRICE OF STOCKS YESTERDAY; Bank Stock t 39 Long Ann. is it-16/ 3 WC. Red. 534 54.53 524/2 Ezebeq. Bills, 41. a 64, 4 per Cent. 674 67 Omnium 54 7 644 S Per Ct. Ann. t 797, EE E7l} Confola fur op. 554 $4134 DUBLIN, juNi 3o —5 per Cent. Goy. Debentures Bg. Cedric of Lachangc--Dublin on London x 24. A very interefting Debate took place lift night io the Houfe of Lords, upon the fubjea of the propofed means of National Defence. The language ufed on the motion by feveral of the Noble Lords, particu larly the Earl of Motu, is well calculated to iufpirit the People, to route them to a due fenfe of the dangers of their prefent fiturion, and animate diem to the neceffary exertions in defence of every thing dear to Freedom and to civilized Man. A Gentleman in an official fituation at Edinburgh received a letter on Friday from Copenhagen, in which it is fluted " That the Panics of DawnAtm is gone to HoMein, where an army of Amos :ten _ _ are gathering to oppofc the french if they attempt to advance further than Hanover." This morning we received liforkeers of the loth June and :ft of July, and alto a Brarifb Orark of the 28th ult. The French Journals are entirely barren of news : they contain &me further particulars, of no importance, refpciing the ;perks of honour confer red on the F3tiT Comm. during his flay at Amiens. and the vifit he paid to the different manufaCtories of that place, which be in(pefted with great minutenefs ? Various addreffes are alto given, all couteived in the ufual (Lyle of fulfome adulation to the modern Cyrus. and of inveterate ranconr expreffed in true ?tench Billingfgate again!' Great Britain. The Member* of the Cooped-General of the Departnient . 4 Seine and Oife thus convey their tontiments to their in , vincible Chief : CITIZIN CMS, COMM and Patsrours7-The Englith Government, the Violator of Treaties, tha Tyrant of the Seas, the Plunderer of Commerce, QUI wither for war 1 To this perfidious provocation th, French people will reply Ely by /bouts of honour and the vengeance of viftofr Tee are tie Chitfq Greg Natio, to edit/ tweiegie is Ki. Our legions opened a pafage through the Alps, to concibei at Marengo. A (Uric cannot prevent there from coo. quering Albion. One day will her:tritium to convey them to its aftonifhesi thorts- The means of reOall them France prefents to you by unanimous concert. This offer bas no ether principles or rule than the moft complete devotion, sad the deer} of peace, of that piece (worn to and 1001244* the* enemy, ant which you will not reftore to them till jou have ro. duced them to loch a Rate, that they (ball nrrerinfini cure be able to break it. Such are - the willsei cid* Council-General of the Department of the Nine Oife, who, to fecond your glorious piojelli e ism unanimoufly vote tito offer of sootaobitirimes; (50,00OL) which we have the honour se *Wife • tes you.—Five per anti Of. 35 c. Pears, JOLT 1.-Tbe department et Ihre han voted the (um of so,ooo francs (loom/,) kr the coo t ftruflion of a fbip of 3o gnus: FasacsroaT, JOSS u. —TM Deptdes of the Hanoverian regency; who are on their way to Paris, naffed through this place on the 16th. The evenini before they had an audience of his Prurran Majefty at Wilhelm(bade. The'flatoral Minilry of Hasa ver, it is (aid, has been transferred from Hil4edrehm to Ratzebourg, a town in the country of Lanesbotn• MILAN, it/ II 115.41:11111111 ST. CY Ilp Comiimmiet is Chief of the army of obfervaiion, arrived on the nth at Rimini, from which be will proceed to An. cons. The firft divifion of this arroymnft by this time be in the Neapolitan territories. 'We are in formed from Florence, that the Queen Defiler of Etruria has returned to that city from Wino, and afumed the reins of Government as regent. The Council of State, and Members of all the Tribunals, have been confirmed in their offices. Netwithaand log the Rate of the war, merchant vete!' !ontinue arrive in the port of Leghorn ; more than forty have entered it in the courfe of eight days. Yellerday morning_ his Majarrr, the Duke of CAISSIIDOG, and the PriDCtft& Soma and Asssata ! attended by Lady THYMUS and Generale GAITM and HASCOUIT, took as airing in the Great Park. Her MIIIISTT and Princes AUGUST& t attended by the Counters of CARMAN. paid a vifit to the Mardi°. oafs of Bai Mi s, in Pa:not. In the evening the mid Family wont to the Theatre. The Cabinet Council left week mfolved to if.. orders for imprelfing landfloen with vigour, and the insprefs began on Saturday night was motioned os Sunday. All perfons apparently idle or eliforderly were felted, and on a Saturday night many trade& men were of comic foetid in that character. All the Police picas had prey warrants Cent to them, and they were eery alive. Upwards of a thoufaisd men were picked up in twentpfoor boon. The Bow- Rreet Office procured :so, and it was throned ye& terday with the friends of the parties. BOt flop met Frei Pete ont Th onsa Lie Or e al Th, he