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I' " I ; '!i IMPFRIAL P_VILIAMENT. .1 . . '~I~ a• thoo•!Ii our. Correspondent, whose communication will be found in another column, notices the drain of cash which the popular party experienced at the last election as an unfavourable circumstance for the present contest, he evidently participates in the g eneral impression_that the people will prove title to themselves. After what Dorsetshire has :dreads- done, it would be ungenernus to doubt its zeal noon the second, and, if possible, more important occasion. tiosT —The Gazc lie of last night makes men tiro, of some few .addresses having been presented t. , the King, praying that the Reform Bill may pa,t: into a law. The authors of these addressee must be a.: ignorant as they are obviously mischiev ous. not to know that the Kin 7 cannot constitu tionally interfere in the deliberations of either house of Legilature, though he may interpose his prero gative to dissolve the Parliament, whenever it suits the t ieos cf his Ministers to have recourse to such t orx poilient. The rorot arbitrary Monarch onlycould pr? aime to command the decision of his Parlia ment: and our's happily not being an arbitrary Menarchy.the call upon his Majesty in this respect is so atrociously unconstitutional, that however w? may excuse it on the score of ignorance on the part of the revolutionists, we cannot upon the utmost stretch of indulgence, pardon his Majesty's Ministers for the sanction they afford to such proceedings, in honouring them with gracious mention in the official Government Gazette. Sir E. Codrington's squadron, instead of pro c,:eding to the Tagus, is to return to the Downs. This movement has doubtlessly reference to the termination of the armistice between Holland and Belgium, which takes place on the 10th inst Ant. Belgium is in a most wretched state, and cannot in possibility exist without the aid of foreign force. By lend she must hare French troops, by sea a British fleet, to protect her against the just resent ment of her ill-used rightful Sovereign, the King cf the NetherlAnds. Was • ver nation placed in so deg:ailing. and disgraceful a state ? Wereever pt-uple m••re exemplarily punished for wanton dis loyalty and unprovoked rebellion? But these are the s;•lorious times of Reform and Revolution; and of course the people of Belgium will receive duo commisseration at the hands of all the Radicals and Revolutionists of Britain. 1101ISE OF LORDS, Sere. 30. The lA/RD CHANCELLOR wok his seat on the wool rick ten minutes before five o'clock. Mr. Ceamerost, Mr. °Tannest., Mr. FRANCIS BA ntsa. and others front the Commons, brought up the Public Works (Ireland) Bill, the Irish embankment Bill, the Nlarquis of Bute's Estate Bill, the Common Lave Offi. ~ Bill, the Charity Commissionere Bill, and a Pt irate Bill. The eighth report of the Commissioners of the Holyhead Reads Bill was slut brought up. Lord PLUNKETT presented a petition from a parish in Galway, in foror of the Galway Franchise Bill. Lord PO ITIMOR F. presented a petition from a parish Devon In favor of the reform bill. Lord ROLLE presented a petition from Exeter against t!.e reform bill. Lard CLIFDEN presented a petition from a diocese in Ireland, praying for a full computation of tithes in that cutitry, and complaining of the extreme hardships they were subject to under the present system. Ti.e Marquis of WESTMEATH thought the compost-, rt r. of tithes in Ireland should be made compulsory. t Tie Earl of WICKLOW supported the prayer of the petition. observing that in that part of the country where the petition came from, there was a regular organised sys tem to repel the payment of tithes, and unless Government interlined, it was his firm belief there would soon be, a re. j.ctien of payment of every species of tai. Lord CARBERRY was afraid any longer to oppose the composition of tithes being made compulsory. He agreed with the noble Earl who had just spoken on the necessity of ieterfe rel:Ce on the part of Government, in that district from which the petieon came. Lord MORLEY presented a petition front Plymouth, praying their Lordships to pass the Reform Bill as speedily as possithe —Meer, bear.) It was his conviction if their Lordsje;ps adopted the principles of the great measure, it would be the means of securing that peace and contentment in the coontry which was so much desired, and would act as a great stimulus to the diserderly to become industrious and useful members of society. The Duke of SUSSEX presented a petition from the county of Middlesex, request:the their Lordships to pans the Reform Bill. In presenting the petition his Royal High. nesa observed that, in consequence of the informality in the he petition (it being signed only by the two Sheriffs). could present it only as the petition of those individuals, yet he could assure their Lordships that it was agreed to at a most numerous meeting, and where but one opinion existed on this great measure. His Royal Highness would not, at the present moment, enter into the merits of this great clues. thin that was to come before their Lordships on Monday next, as lie considered there would be a much more fitting occasion for doing so, and he had laid it down as a rule that nothing irritating should fall front him either on one side of Ate subject or the other. His only wish was the interest of It's enuntie ; his Royal Highness then presented petitions to a effect front Ludlow, Ross, Cripplegate Within li and Without, Boston, Vintry Ward, Btidgewatcr, Banbury,' Enworth, iteetzuth, Haverton, and Gosford. On the ma.ion of Lord TENTERDEN, the order of the day for bringing up the report on the Prescription Bill was discharged, and the report was ordered to be brought up on Friday nest. The Rail of CA MPERDOWN. io presenting a num. Int of petiiines from Scotland on the subject of Reform, slid, in the titsedssion of the question last night a distinction was attempted to be drawn between Reform in England and in Sectland. But the people of Scotland knew no such dis tinction, for they were well aware that if the Bill on their Lordships' table were thrown out, there would be no Re nnin for themais( Hear.) And the whole of the petitions lie had to present were in favour of that measure brought forward by his Majesty's Ministers, lie was sure their Lordships would pass the Bill, as by it the privileges of the aristocracy world be secured, and placed on a firm and sure foundation. The Noble Lord then presented peti tions in favour of Reform—Three from Dundee, one front Hsddington, one from Dunbar, one front Inverkeithirg, one from 31usselburgh, two from Arbroath, five from Montiose, one from Auchterarder, and five others from places in Scotland, the names of which we could not learn. Lord KINNA I RD presented a petition in favour of re form from nine corporations of the borough of Dundee ; and o.her three from places in Scotland, the names of which were inaudible at the Oar. Lord F.L OU RN R presented petitions in favour of reform from Sheron Mallet, Melva Mowbray, and other places. The Ma• quit of OL EV FLA ND rose to present several petitions upon the important subject which was to occupy the house on Monday next. The petitions came from various parts of the county of Durham. A short time only had elapsed Since the. Reform Bill came from the Commons, yet the petitions had been numerously sigued, and more would be presented on Monday. A meeting was to be held that day, and the noble marquis bad no doubt he should bare to present o.her petitions on Monday front the same county._ On a former occasion a noble marquis expressed an opinion that the public feeling in Durham was not so favourable as It had been said to be. He was convinced the feeling in favour of reform was unanimous. One universal feeling pervaded the county. The noble marquis had had the honour of holding his Majesty's commission many years in the county of Dur ham, and was well acquainted with the feeling of the county. Ilia Grist petition was from Sunderland, a populous town, which had petitioned on a former occasion to favour of re form. 'Their tint petition was signed by 4.768 persona, and tue present; petition had been signed by11,f25, which fur bished a consuming proof of teamed • sentiment in favour of reform. The {Wean is that respect, not only in Oates. head, but Sondoriand, would probably.convince the noble suattrtis of the slate of opinion in those places; and induce him to give his vote in favour of the bill. His hope was, that the feeling in the county of Durham might elicit a ewe from the noble marquis for the measure. He had to observe that the clergy in Durham had abstained front taking any par tin the great political question. There flight have been one or two exceptions. One meeting in a populous town had been convened by the rector of the pariah The noble marquis explained why petitions bad not come earlier from the county of Durhnm. One reason was the doubt whether the bill would be favourably received by their lord ships. He had petitions from the tour principal towns in the county of Durh.m. The noble marquis accordingly presented• petitions from Sunderland, Gateshead, Castle Barnard, Darlington, 1111 ton, and the Borough of Dumfries. The Marquis of LONDONDRRRY was aware that the noble marquis was well informed as to the state of the county of Durham. but the statement of the noble marquis did not alter his opinion. It wu generally known that Sundetland and Gateshead had an interest in the arrange ments of the bill, and it was not at all wonderful that they should be favourable to the measure. With respect to the vote which the noble marquis called for, he could only say that he should give his vote free ftom bias. He was iniu. (need only by constitutional motives. The petitions were then read and laid on the table. The Duke of BUCKING!' A3l suggested, that it might be adviuble for the house to meet to-morrow to receive pe titions, preparatory to the discussion on Monday. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he had arranged judicial business for to-morrow, but he agreed with the no ble duke, that it might be convenient to receive petitions to-morrow. The noble and learned lord then observed that he had risen to present a mass of petitions signed by thou ' sands and thousands of his fellow countrymen. Ills reason for presenting them shortly to the House was, that he had so many entrusted to his care, that his strength would not I allow him, nor the time of the house permit, of his song into the merits of each. (Hear, hear, hea r.) The first petition was from Leeds, praying that House to pass the -Reform Bill. in seven days it rteeived 17,500 signatures, r and in two days It received 21,000 more. The noble and ' learned lord then presented petitions to the same effect from Kingston-upon-Hull, signed by 6.276 — St. Saviours, South. wok—The Corporation of Biddeford, signed by 800—Stra thallan—Dumfries--Fingal (for their own disfranchise. me .1 t) —Coe kerm out h East AI imms —Caine— Kersey— Irviu—Totness— Kidderminster, signed by 1,572-.-Bcar borough, by 900—Southamptoneby I,79o—Richmond, Yorkshire, by 820—Dalkeith, by I,7ss—Hithe, Kent— Taunton—St. Mary, Newington, by 2,ooo—Paddington, by 930—Portsmouth, by 3,400-Lambeth, by 2,600. — The noble aed learned lord then presented several other petitions to the same effect from certain C rpo. rations in Edinburgh, the Ciceronian Society of Liverpocl, nine incorporated trades of Leith, seven incorporated trades of Portaburgh, and sundry other places—in all 45 petition. With respect to the presenting of Iteform petitions next Monday, he (the Lord Chancellor) was of opinion that such • mode would be very inconvenient, unless their Lordships met a little earlier; it might be advisable for their Lordships to meet at a very early hoar in the day during the discussion on the Reform Bill, as was the case at one time on an important occasion. —(The trial of Queen Caroline.) Lord ROSS lE presented twenty.tvropedtions in favour certain of Reform from places in Scot lan d. Lord HOLLAND had great satisfaction to find that the feelings of the people of England wets so generally in favour of itetorm ; he had a variety of petitions to present to their Lordships, all of which shewed that no relaxation in the cause of Reform had taken place; they were couched in loyal and respectful language ; the petitions, at the same time, were totally silent as to annual parliaments and universal suffrage, although such points bad frequently been included in witless from sitnil.r places. The first petition was from the Corporation of Nottingham, with wh ch he bad the honour (and he accounted it a great bon nir) to be con. fleeted ; the political advantage of that Corpoiation would be much restricted by the measure, yet thetitionersl prayed that the Reform Bill might be passed, f or the ge. ntral good ; the next petition was from the inhabitants of the same town, and was signed by 13,000 persons in I three days. The Duke of BUCKINGHAM said the great number, of petitions to be presented in favour of reform only gave ad ditional weight to the hint he had thrown out; he should suggest that their lordships should meet at four o'clock, and receive petitions till six o'clock. The LORD CHANCELLOR agreed w ith the noble duke—Abe hours were judiciously chosen ; were their lord. ships to meet earlier, them would be but a thin attendance of peers ; and he always doubted the expediency of the House of Commons meeting on a Saturday, perhaps that body could take greater liberties with their constimenr than then lad. ships, who bad none. (Laughter.) Lord HOLLAND said there ought to be ea understand ing at what hour their lordships should stop the resenting of I eti,iona. With respect to sitting on Sstutday, he under stood there were certain reasons why their lordships should not sit to-morrow. he petitions of the noble baron, which were from the towns of Nottingham, Siggleswade, and other places, in all fourteen, were then laid on the table. The Duke of HAMILTON presented petitions in fa un, of Reform, from Linlithgow, Dumbarton, Lanark, and New Lanark ; also from the town of Lancaster. The Noble Duke took occasion to observe, that when the question of Reform came before the House, it ought to be discussed with calmness and that attention which its great importance demanded. TITHES. On the motion of the Archblihop of CANTERBURY, the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Tithe Composition Bill was postponed till next Friday. Earl Al A NVERS presented a petition in favour of Re form from the populous parish of St. Mary-la-bonne. The Duke of RICHMOND also presented similar pe titions from Woolwich, Northampton, and another place. The noble duke cordially agreed iu the proposition, that their lordships should nieet at four o'clock fur receiving petitions. WINE DUTIZI. Lord AUCKLAND moved the order of the day for the third reading of the Wine Duties Bill. In doing so, the noble lord took occasion to repeat the scale of duties which had been fixed upon by his Majesty's Ministers ; these were calculated to protect the trade in Cape wines. It had been stated dust the present measure had been brought forward with undue hostility to Portugal, and of partiaity to France; that statement he begged moat distinctly to deny—(hear)_ he could not think that this measure would lead to any dia. agreeable results as respected Portugal. The Earl of ABERDEEN was of opinion, that the pre. sent measure, viewed as one of finance, would be a failure ; l ead taken in a commercial point of view it would be ruinous ; there were other reasons which induced him to give the measure his opposition. He dewed not the right of his Majesty's ministers at any period to annul the Methuen Treaty. He complained that it bad been violated without due notice having been given. He had already stated that he doubted if the noole lord would derive those hnancial advan tages he anticipated from the measure. In 1825 ihe number of gallons of the wines of Portugal imported into this coun try was one million; last year, afters diminution of duty bad taken place, the number of gallons imported were reduced to 3620.00. He contended that the reduction of duty intended by the present measure would be accompanied by a corresponding diminution of the impor.ation of the wines of Portugal ; and that would be followed by an equally great reduction in the amount of those commodities exported under existing treaties by this country to Por tugal. He could abets to their Lordships that a lose to the trade and commerce of England, to the amourt of upwards of 700,0001. annually, had taken place, in eon. sequence of these equalization measures t the English fish trade with Portugal had fallen off in a most remarkable manner. Newfoundland, at present, did not send to Portugal one-tenth pan the quantity of fish that colony furnished for twenty years; and it was a fact, that a cor responding increase had taken place in the exports of Nor. way and other countries to Portugal. By his present mea. sure, the noble lord was treating Portugal most unjustly. Many complaints had been raised against the Oporto wine company ; he believed that the affairs of that company were but indifferently understood, both in that house and by the country ; but as its chartet expired in two or three years, an arrang raent of existing difficulties might then easily be effected. He would ask whether the Government of Francs had, by any liberal acts, entitled that country to so much favour ? Had the Government of the Revolution acted with more liberality than the Government of the Bourbons ? He should think not. In support of his ar- Igurnent, the noble earl toes: quoted the price of coffee in France, which w..s at present 66, whilst the same commo. dity was only 45 in 'England, and yet the British trader was not allowed to seed it as an article of commerce to the former country. In the treaties with this country Portugal had paid pretty dearly, and she had a right to ex pect all that England had promised. The resat attacks upon Portugal, he considered as nothing short of attacks upon the existing government of the country. He could ass-re their lotdsbips that the people of Portugal were a high• minded people, and would not readily submit to be dictated to by England, in conjunction with any other nation. When woe these attache upon the Government of Don Miguel to cease he should ask. He looked open the present mea -1 sure as one which would break the last remaining link of the chain which bound Pcet*pl to this country ; in jurious at once to the commode! interests of both cam tries ; and looking at it in apolitical point of wits, he deemed it most inadvisable for these reasons he was bound to op pose the bill. Viscount GODERICH would not enter into a lengthened discussion with his not le friend (Lord Aberdeen) respecting all the treaties odometers referred to by him in his observa tions; he denied that the measure proposed was one of hos. tility towards Portugal, or its existing Government ; the present system upon which the trade of the two countries was conducted, was highly detrimental to this country, both In apolitical and a commercial sense ; and this was no new opinion of his. for he had, hi 1829, written in a private es. pocky (for he was not then a member of the Government) to the President of the Board of Trrde, that so far from the Methuen treaty being beneficial to England, it was nothing else but a nuisance. (Hear.) Neither could be view the present measure as a violation of any of the existing tree. ties : by the treaty of 1810, it was specially provided that the toms of the :Methuen treaty might be departed from without any notice being necessary, there was therefore no violation; the Oporto Wine Company, which had been re presented as the bond which united Portugal and England, had been a source of perpetual bickering and complaint ; and what was the fact, looking at it in another important point of view ? The Oporto Wine Company was not able to con fine its importation Of Port wine into this country to a we.. taro 'anent, and the result has been that the people of Eng land were obliged to drink a villainous compound manufac tured here under the name of Port wine. He readily ad mitted that it was an advantage for England to get her woollens into Portugal at a reduced rate of duty; still he contended that nothing but a reciprocity in the trade of the - two countries ought to exist; any other system must of necessity hied to oincant inquietude. 'But did Portu gal exclude the woollens of -England; that moment in which the endusive system was adipted, the woollens would be smuggled into the' s country prohibiting them. It ought to be remembered nith satisfaction, also, that all the rest of the world was leo to England. The noble viscount concluded by disclaiming, in the most positive terms, that the present measure was founded in hastily to Portugal, or undue partiality to France; he therefore, trusted their lonlships would give It their support. At this period a messenger from the Commons brought up the game bill, with the amendments agreed to by the House of Commons. The Duke. of WELLINGTON observed, that viewing the measure Is one of finanee,shis noble friend (Earl Aber deen) had received no answer. He contended that the pre sent measure held out great advantages to France at the ex pense of Portugal. Noble lords opposite wished to effect a change in the commercial treaties with Portugal by revolu tionary means, which-would lead to a war of opinion in that country. He *as bound to state all be knew on the sub ject.He was informed that loans had been set on foot to be raised on the government property, and the church pro perty of Portuga l, for the purpose of establishini rk Doo Pe dro on the government of that country. (Hear. He was sure that these were transactions unworthy of aßritish Go vernment, end calculated to disturb the peace not only of Portugal, but the whole of the Peninoda. The Marquis of CLANUICARDE contended that it was not the duty of Ministers to consider what was alone for the good of Portugal, or the good of France, but what was for the good of the British nation.—(Hear.) The present measure was just as a commercial measure, and be was per suaded it would be found effectual as one of finance. The Noble Marquis then quoted the opinion of Mr. Pitt, to show that it was no new measure, or one entirely originating with the present Government. The Bill was then read a third time end pass e d. The Appropriation Bill and the Welsh Charities' Bill were severally read a first time. LUNACY BILL. The LORD CHANCRLLOR directed the attention of the House to the conference which had taken place in the 1 1 Painted Chamber, between a Committee of their Lordships' and the Commons on the Lunatics in Chancery Bill, which ' had been brought up from the Commas' House with their Lordships' amendments re *.t4, thereby lacing the Bill in, its original shape. He move that - the Bill, together with its rejected amendments, be_prlnted...—Agreed to. Adjourned at a Quarter-peat Ten. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Lord INGESTRIE presented a petition, u we under. stood, for the establishment of a Board In Dublin, for the' management of affairs In Ireland. Mr. HOLMES moved for a new writ for Dorchester, hi the room of Lord Ashley, whis had vacated by accepting the Stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds—Ordered. Sir J. NEWPORT presented& petition from an inhabi tant rate-payer of the parish of St. George, in the county of Dublin, complaining of the conduct of the trustees of that church, and stating, that without any previous notice he had been recently proceeded against for no less than 22 years' ar rears of church-building rate, of the existence of which be originally knew nothing. The honourable baronet went into a statement of the expense of this church, which cost nearly 1410,0001. being fire times the amount of the original esti. merle, and contended that the trustees should be compelled to account for the appropriation of so large a stun of money. Mr. O'CONNELL assured the House that this ale was one of the grossest exaction, and he entreated his Majesty's Government to institute an inquiry, so that if the facts stated were bane out, the law °Ems of the Crown might be instructed to file an injunction against the Trustees, to payout the prosecution of their claims upon the rats-payers until all the accounts were produced. Mr CRAMPTON promised that the law Mews of the Irish Government would give the subject their most atten. tire consideration.—(Hear.) The petition was laid on the table, and ordered to be printed. VZITILIES IZGULATIOX BILL. Mr. HUM ICpre -- ientedapeiiiiotiiriraTikaneras in fa vour of this Bill. Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE moved that the House resolve into a Committee on the Bill. Colonel LINDSAY observed that much difficulty had been experienced in consequence of the declaration made by the Honourable Member for Middlesex, on presenting a former petition on this subject, that he would pay no more rates imposed by a .elect Vestry. Indeed, the Honourable Member had stated that he had refused to pay the rates; but the collector had Wormed him (Colonel Lindsay), that such was not the case, and that not only did the Honourable Member for Middlesex pay his rates punctually, but also with perfect good.humour. (Laughter.) The Select Vestry with the principle of the bill. Mr. HUMt. observed that he certainly had been mare. presented on the occasion referred to. He had never said that he would not pay his rates. What he had said was, that the people of the parish in which he resided had refused to pay a rate made by a alf-eleeted and irresponsible body, and had even suffered dam/elves to be distrained upon rather than consent to a demand which they, to common with all other parishes in the metropolis nada the control of a select vestry, regarded as illegal. The parishes of Mary-la-bonne and lsling.on had bola tome to the determination of resist. lag rates made by the select vestries, and to speak the truth, the dissatisfaction that obtained in parishes amounted to almost civil war. It was high time that some measure should be adopted to restore quiet. Mr. HUNT wished to ask a question of the Under-Se. cretary of State for the Home Departmen., whether any inquiry had been made, or proceedings adopted, relative to a pauper of the name of Somers, who, on a late occasion, when brought before Mr. Walker at Lambeth-street, had been sent to the Ho u s e o f Correction, to hard labour, and bad died, according to th e ve rdi ct o f t h e j ur y, f rom starva ion. Mr. LAMB stated, that the inquiries he bad made sada. God his own mind that, although the individual referred to bad died from starvation, it was sot in consequence of the refusal of assistance by any perish officer. The House then went Into Committee oa the Select Ves tries Bill; Mr. STIPB2IIIOIIt in the chair. Lord ALTHORP moved, as an amendment, that in place of a simple majority, two.thirds of the parish should be had in its favour before the introduction of this change was to be considered obligatory in any parish. Sir J. C. HUB HOUSE stated, that it would be most difficuh to gain such a majority as two-thirds in any parish upon almost any subject, and be, therefore. hoped that the amendment would not be pressed. A simple majority, he submitted, was all that should be required. He had been recommended by some to make the bill imperative upon every parish, but thinking that Impracticable , be wished every faci li ty to b e afforded to its general adopt Ms. He particularly spoke of the impossibility of securing the at• tendance of two-thirds of the parish ; at the ism times be was quite sure that till the representative system was adopted In parishes' there would be no tranquillity in them. Mr. J. CAMPBELL considered the select vestry system was fruitful in jobbing, and detestable in itself. Continued encroachments and complaints were produced by it, and the sootier a complete mid final end was put to it the better. Lord A LTHORP said no man could object more atrawsly than be did to the disgraceful system of the close vestries. It was certainly, therefore, in his view, desirable that a myosin much less objectionable should be adopted ; in some area, however, it appeared that close vestries did actually week well, and *here an extensive alteration in Oa emirs hial system was proposed, it would be well, be thseghtrersap. probation of a great majority of the pada IMO ebtalmed to its introduction. 'This was the pdadipless which his rvi arendment proceeded. Heald he did net wish le was his amendment, but he thought there ought to be a decidedly majority to approve the alterations that might be car ried into erect in obedience to this bill. Sir J. C. HOLIHOUSE observed that this Bill did not in any way alter the constitution of the parishes--the origi nal Bill did; but all that this Bill secured was, that those who had the expending ache money of the parish should be chosen by the parish. Mr. C. FERGUSON submitted that a fair majority would be sufficient; two-thirds would be too much. The Bill would effect a most valuable change. Mr. LAMB supported the amendment. Let it be reeol lected that if the majority should only be one it would be establishing the system for all time to come. Mr. HUMS hoped the Noble Lord would not persevere in his amendment. It would be extremely difficult to get the majority of two-thirds in any parish to vote in favour of any change, so completely were the parishioners under the controul of the Stlect Vestry. Mr. PROTHEROE deemed the Select Vestry system so abominable, and so contrary to the principles of all good go vernment, that he would have the bill introduced Into every parish upon a bare majority. Mr. HUNT toot the same view. Lord ALTHORP did not wish to press his amendment against the general sense of Hon. Members. Mr. HYNG thought the most straightforward and honest way was to allow all rate-payees to have a vow. Lord ALTHORP was quite satisfied that there ought at least to be a decided majority of the parishes in favour of the change be ore It was introduced. Sir J. C. BOHR MAR explained. He begged to repeat that the bill did not propose to alter the constitution of pa. rishes so much as was supposed, although the original bill did. The change would only be partial at first, but pro. passive. Even when it was introduced the former vestry would still remain in office, at least they would only go out by thirds every succecding year, so that it would be four iears, even where the bill was adopted, before it would come nto full operation. The main object proposed by the bill was, that eacb parish should have the power of choosing those who were to rate them. Sit C. WETHERELL objected to the bill, as allowing persons who paid a rate of a few shillings only, the same power and the same privileges as those who paid as many pounds. It could not be said that that was equalising the interests of the inhabitants of a parish. In many parishes it was not the practice to put into the rate the very inferior tenants. but this bill would give 100 voters, of lis. a-bead each, the same power and interest as 100 persons paying as many pounds. Mr. HUNT was in favour of the Bill, but he was con vinced that good order would not be restored in any until Mr. Sturges Bourne's Act was wholly (Cries of Question.) Mr. CAMPBELL had beard it laid down by Lord Tenterden over and over again, that by the common law of the land every rate-payer should be entitled to vote in parish affairs. Sir G. WARRENDER thought the amendment a most wise one. Sir C. FORBES said there was such a struggle for power, that soon no man would be able to end $ quiet corner in which to bide hhusclf. _ Sir R. V YVYAN disapproved of the select vestry sys tem. but though to a certain extent an Anti.Refouner, be should not oppose this Bill, which gave to the rate-payer the power of voting for the election of vestrymen. Mr. PROTHRROR and Mr. HUNT said, u two. thirds could never be obtained, they hoped the amendment would not be pressed, because, if it were, it would defeat the bill. Mr. ESTCOURT said this was a new measure ; and as that was the caw, be thought it would be advisable to adopt the calm and cautious mode proposed by the noble lord. Mr. ROBINSON also thought that they ought to pro ceed cautiously. and, that they certainly ought to esta blish the nemmity of the majority being somewhat between the half and two thirds. Tbe gallery was then cleared for a division. The num bers were, on the original motion, Ayes ... ... 37 Noes ... ... 62 Majority ... lib During our absence, it was proposed, we understood, that the majority required be three.fifths. Sir J. HOBHOUSE said, if the amendment which bad been, in feet, carried by the division stood, he expected be should be required to withdraw the Bill. Lord ALTHORP only wished that in the experiment there should be something more than a mere majority, he therefore supported the proposition for requiring the sanction of a majority at at least three-fifths. Tnis amendment was eventually carried. Sir R. VTVYAN suggested an amendment, that the votes should be according to the property, on the ptindple adopted by Sturges Bourne's Bill. LORD ALTHoRP opposed it t he did not see why then should be any difference between these votes and votes foe assenbers of parliament. Mr. NUMB also resisted the suggested amendment ; the pot man's property was of as much cons‘quence to him as if he were a rye man. Sir R. VYVTAN said be should withdraw the amend ment, sod that be would propose it in another stage, if he thought, on consideration, that was requisite. Amendment withdrawn. Mr. HUME suggested an amendment, that in the event of a decision being in favour of change in the Parish Vestry, it should not be acted upon unless confirmed by a subse quent Vestry called within a week. It was agreed to after some conversation. Mr. MILES proposed as en amendment, that tbe per. sons entrusted to dispense certain charitable funds in the city of Bristol, should be exempted from the operation of the Vestry Bill. Mr. PROTHE ROE opposed this proposition, observing that so decidedly was Bristol in favour of the Bill, that the late Members lost their election, as much =account of their resistance to this Bill as to their opposition to the question of Refcem.—(Hear, bear ) • After some conversation, Mr. HUNT, in an explanation, said, that In 11111, be having had occasion to petition this House in mem of an e ection for Bristol, by wins of a warrant frets the Spam of the House, what no one bad ever done elesinsd access to the archives of the city, and he dim end made extracts, which showed that the fads of several cha rities that bad been left to be distrlbsted M pow people by the Lady Mayoress of Bristol, bad not bun @Mimi to those purposes ; and in other cams be saw shot *ski funds bad been applied for political purposes. Sir C. WETH KRELL replied, and said he (Mr. Hunt) was bound to acknowledge that such a cheep could not be applied to any existing Lady Mayans these twenty years for he (the Learned Baronet) would assert, that if the whole money was not appropriated, the remaining balance was carried forward to the general account of the faiths don. Mr. HUNT refused to retract what be had mid, or to make any apology. The intendment was then withdrawn, and the clauses agreed to.—The report to be brought up on Monday neat. TUE &AMR MILL. Lord ALTHORP meved the Order of the Day for the , House to take into consideration the Game Amendment 13111.--The Order of the Day being read, Lord ALTHORP said that he approved of some of the amendments adopted by the House of Lords, and trusted that they would be sanctioned by the House. If they were DM adopted, it would be impossible to peas the Bill into a law this session. --(Hear, bear.) He thought it would be unwise to reject those amendments, considering the present state of the law as there would be many opportunities to re vise them. He moved that those amendments be agreed to. Mr. berjeant WILDE said that some of the amendments evinced a total disregard to the rights of property. After some dismission, Mr. HUNT farmed his Westin to divide the house upon the clause relating so poaching. The gallery was dossed For the ekuse . Against It MaieritY - • • —44 Upon our re.adstimion to the pllay, we found Sir B. Soon= protesting against that &use granting the tight et the game to the landlord. After a few words from Lord ALTRORP, Mr. Hsu. and others, the amendments were agreed tot SUPPLY. The House then went into a Committee of Supply. Mr. S. RICE moved a vote of 120,0001. in payment of certain salaries, allowances, pensions, and services, for whicL no prmiske bad been made in the civil list. Agreed to. Sir J. GRAHAM moved a grant of 27,0001. for the completion of the Victualling-yard at Gosport, in addition to the sum already voted far that purpose. He might have supplied the deficiency by converting to the completios of the yard sums voted for other purposes; but be preferr e d applying to parliament to make an addition to its former grant, as he considered that the public money should be cep. plied only to the purposes for which it was voted. ( Hear.) The deficiency chiefly arose from errors In the estimato, recurrence of which would be prevented by artain alterations and checks which he intended introducing into the mod: of keeping the Admiralty accounts. After a few words from Mr. Hume, Sir J. Graham, Mr Maberly, Sir J. Cockburn, and Sir J. Newport, the vote sat agreed The House resumed. Report to be received on Mondip next. rue BANKRUPTCY SILL. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, in rising to move the second reading of the Bankruptcy Bill, observed that it W3S thought that very great grievances existed in the bankruptcy department, and consequently it was thought necessary t.. apply a remedy to thole grievances. A Committee sat in 1817 to Inquire into the subject, and an able practitioner in bankrupt cmos, Mr. Cullen, on that occasion proved before the Committee the urgent necessity of amending the system altogether. It appeared to that Committee that any thing a 34 better than a Commission of Bankruptcy. The Honourable and learned member here read extracts from the evidence of Mr. Cullen on that occasion, which went to condemn th e present system of managing bankruptcy business. The hoc. and learned member then explained the provisions of the bill, one of which was, that the Lord Chancellor would re ceive MON. a year out of the suitors' fund in lieu of fees, which were estimated at 7,0001. It further provided that the Lord Chancellor's retiring pension was to be 0,0001. a year instead of 4,0001. •in consequence of his giving up so large a share of patronage. He was authorised to state, that one of the most experienced Judges in Westminster Hall would preside in the New Conti established by this Bill. The Chief Judge of the Court was to have a salary of 3,0001. a year, the other three 20001 and the rest of the Commis sioners a salary of 1,5001. each. The entire amount of the 1 1 salaries would be 16,0001. The official assignees were to be paid a poondage on the dividends. The Honourable and Learned Clentletnao concluded by moving the second read ing of the Bill. Sir C. WETHERELL did not think that his Hon. and Learned Friend bad made oat a sufficient case to call upon this Heuer to agree to this Bill. After some observations from Sir E. Stunsam, the further debate was adjourned to Tuesday next ; and the other Orders of the Day having been disposed of ; the House ad journed at Half-past One o'Cloct. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. 'GERMAN PAPERS—THIS DAY. Posex, SEPT. 21.—The Poses Gazette gives the following details of the reoccupation of Kalisch, by the Russian troops, which has already been mentioned : " Pietrowski, the leader of the Polish detachment, found no difficulty in repuliing the small detachment of one hundred and fifty cavalry, under Colonel Katasow ; left by General Knorring, when he marched by the way of Petrikau to Krasriowice, in order to restore order in all parts of those provinces. The Russians, however, did not retreat till after an action, in which one staff officer, three officers, and 16 pri vates, were taken prisoners, when they returned by way of Konin to Kolo. On being informed of this event, Lieutenant-General Knorring immediately marched with his corps to Kalisch. He found the town occupied by the Poles, and in or der to prevent useless bloodshed, he acquainted the leader of these troops, with the taking of Warsaw, and the events that bad taken place there, inviting him to quit the town, and to leave the farther de cision to FieleWliershal Paskewitsch. While the ne gociations were pending, the Poles thought that the Russians would be off their guard, and having first met an officer to ask time for consideration, sal lied out of the barrier of Kalish, with all their cavalry at full gallop. This faithless proceeding coat them dear, for they were received by the Podo lien cuirassiers stationed on the causeway, and some cannon placed near the windmills, so that after a short action they were obliged to seek for safety In a disorderly flight, in which they suffered severely from the artillery in the narrow passage. Their loss amounted to 150 killed and wounded, and 75 prisoners; among whom are several officers, one of whom, Korski, the com mander of the Polish cavalry, soon after died of his wounds. The loss of the Russian troops con sisted in 6 officers, and 60 privates killed and wounded, as it rained in torrents, and it was already dark, Gen. Knorring delayed a formal attack till the following day. The Poles, however, took ad vantage of the night quickly to evacuate Kalisch, which was again occupied by the Russians on the 14th. The principal part of Gen. Knorring's corps encamped near Kalisch. FRANCE. PARIS, SEPT. 28.—We are utterly destitute of news to-day. The utmost tranquillity appears to reign in Paris ; but the police are said to be ac tively engaged in getting up or hunting down a Buonapartist conspiracy among the unfortunate Italian refugees. This affair, whether genuine, or like those of which you, too, had some years since examples, will end in the banishment from Paris, at least, of those unhappy persons. Yon will observe that the works for the defence of Paris are about to be resumed. Some persons might thence derive the id ea th a t f ears o f war an d inva sion are entertained by Gove r n m e n t. No such stuff enters into the thoughts of Ministers. The works, which consist solely of ditches and embank ments, will be continued merely to provide occu pation for the many thousands of poor men at present unemployed, and starving, in Paris and its environs. An alarming rumour pervades those working classes of Paris wile are not natives of France, or who have arrived from the remote departments— namely, that in order to have a pretext for re moving them from the metropolis, the police are seeking to implicate them in the recent riots. This rumour, coupled with that respecting the Italian refugees, points directly at the legislative measure respecting " foreigners," which the French Gc vcrnment is about to submit to the Chambers. Is it possible that the Government of France is thus abort to take a lesson in arbitrary and despotic cruelty front those of Austria and Prussia ? The distort astute which took place at Toulon,Lyons,Grenoble. Toulouse, Dijon, and other cities iu the southern departments, on the receipt of the news that War saw had fallen, appear to have nearly subsided. We look forward, therefore, with some degree el hope, that '• revolts," " eviesites,' " unrest perness," and " assemblessou," have terminated for the season. Letters from Berlin, received yesterday, continue to complain of the uncertainty that rests upon the actual situation of Warsw, I liri'.i