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PAIIL.I .4 31 ENT A ity PROCEEDINGS. HOL'SR OF LORDS, MAY 30. This being the first day of Trinity Term, no Appeals were heard; and the Loan CitANCI3.I.OS, gave notice that Counsel would not be cal!ad in before twelve o clock on IMenday next. Within five minutes to four o'clock the Earl of Snaeresauns - , the Loan CIIANCZLI.OR, and Viscount Mat-tette took Omit : seats befere the Throne, robed as Lords Commissioners for notifying and declaring his Majesty's Assent to divers Bills agreed ta3 be tween both Houses, and soon after the Yeoman Usher of the Pack Hod returned with tare SPEAKZO of the Commons, and several of the Members. When the Commission, which was signed by the King him *if this day at Westminster, had been read, the Royal Awent Was given, in the customary way, to the following B ills : namely—the Ireland Commercial Intercourse, County Trea surers, and Charitable'Loans Societies BiUs, the Profane Cursing end Swearing Act (19th Geo. II.) Amendment Bill, the Shad well Church Expenses Dill, the Worcester Improvement Bill, the Greenwich Police Bill, the Paisley Gas Light Bill, the Wool wich Gas Light Bill, the City and Suburbs of York Gas Light Ihll, the Bermondsey Improvement Bill, the Ely Drainage Bill, eieven+Road Hills, the Cambridge (King's Collegeand Clare Ball) Lands Exchange Bill, Gor: , als Police, and some Private Bills. Sir ' Joint Boeuuav, Dl r. Cu ETWYND, Lord STANLOY, Sir lbStfit GSAIIASI, and others, brought up the Masters and Ap prentices Bill, the Skipton Water Supply Bill, and also tom Road Bills, which were afterwards read a first titne- Mr. Towles, front the Treasury, delivered the Fifth Report of the Commissioners of (Treasury) inquiry, and also some Re turns with regard to Malt. Mr. Cox, from the Great Sessions in Wales, delivered some Returns from the Counties of Montgomery and Denbigh. Mr. AlsZee, front the East India House, delivered the An neal Accounts of the Company's Receipts and Expenditure. The Eari of ROCKSAV AGE presented a Petition from the Inhabitants of the Town of Cambridge, praying for a total Abo lition of the Slave Trade. . Tht. LORD CHA SCELLOR said, that it might probably he in the recollection of their Lordship; that he had, during the Let Session, on more than one occasion, took the liberty of calling their attention to the subject of the Bankrupt Laws ; and, in SO doing, that he had promised to propose some measure for the amending and consolidation of those laws. lie had to inform 'their Lordships that the Bill for that purpose was now ready, but upon reading some of the clauses, which might perhaps be construed to interfere with a paiticular jurisdiction of the other House, though he was prepared to submit the Bill to their Lord ships, It should originate, if possible, with the Muse of Com mons. In general the Bill already bad his approbation, and he , hoped that the whole of the Bankrupt Laws might hereafter be consolidated in one Bill. lie believed the Bill would g et into the House melt week ; but if it should not originate 'bee soon, he must be under the necessity of presenting it to their Lordships, in redemption of the pledge he formerly gave. He had thought it proper to notice this subject at the present time, that their Lordships might not suppose that he bad forgotten the Bill. The Northampton and the Oakhampton Gas Light Bills were read a third time, passed, and messaged to the other House. At about six o'clock, upon the motion of the Earl of SIIATTILS IVRY, the House adjourned to Monday next. HOUSE OF COMMONS. A few minutes before four o'clock the House was summoned to attend the House of Lords to bear the Royal Assent giveti by Commission to several Public and Private Inds. A Person from the Treasury presented the Fifth Report of the Commissioners of Inquiry.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. Ilasoe, fruni.the Feist- ineliaCompany, presented certain Returns relative to the sale of goods and merchandise.—Or dered to lie on the table, and be printed,* • -Mr. WALTER presented an Account of Registers of the Court of Chancery.—Ordered to lie on the table, and he printed. Sir W. ROWLEY presented a Petition against the Duty on Coals.—Brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table and be printed. Mr. CURWEN presented two Petitions front Parishes in Cumberland against Colonial Slavery.—Btought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table. Mr. CREEVEY postponed his motion relative to the Four and a Half Per Cents. till M..eday, out which occasion he said he would move it as an amendment to the motion for going into the Committee of Supply. Mr. IiOIiIIOUSE presented a Petition from the Inhabitants of Camber well, praying that the privilege of the Rules of the King's Bench might be abolished.—Brought up, read, and or dered to lie on the table. Mr. KENNEDY moved that there be laid before the House an account of certain Correspondence between Government and the Postmaster-General, relative to the establishment of Packets between Portpatrick and Aberdeen. Mr. MAX WELL presented a Petition from the Inhabitants of Middlesex and Surrey in favour of passing a Bill to empower Magistrates to fix a minimum of wages. The lion. Member observed, that as there seemed a disinclination in the House to favour such a proposition, he would only move that the Petition be read.—Brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table. A Message from the Lords announced that their Lordships had assented to some Private Bills without any amendments. MACHINERY. Mr. ATTWOOD presented a Petition from certain Weavers resident in Stockport, praying for a Bill to be passed to establish a minimum of wages; and also complaining of the use of machinery in manufactories. Mr. PHILLIPS said, that from all the inquiries Le Lad made he was inclined to think that the evils complained of were much exaggerated. It was true that wages were low, but so weie provisions. That at least was the case when he was last in Lancashire, v.lien it was impossible for any one to deny that the woikman was in a comfortable state. On the sub ject of machinery, he thought that the cotton manu facturer had been improved in his situation by its in. troduction. He wac satisfied that if Parliament acted according to the wishes of the Petitioners on that sub " kct, the result would not only be injurious to the general interests of the country, but of particular dis advantage to themselves. • Mr..CUP_Vs'Elsl surported the prayer of the peti tion. Ile w ished to remind the House that some years ago a Committee had been appointed by the House to consider the subject of a minimum.of wages, and that 44) delegates, a ho had been appointed from the mantitacruiii:g districts, had gone away impressed v:ith the incooveniehce of such a measure. Mr. G. BENNET said that a work had been pub lished by Mr. Cobbett on the subject of machinery, -which had been widely circulated. If there was any Gentleman present who had not read it, he would recommend it tn that Gentleman's attention as the most useful publication that bad yet appeared on the subjebt of machinery. Sir I. COFFIN said he -.vas very certain that if ma . cliinery were abolished in this country, a great pro portion of the population would starve. Mr. RICARDO said, that we ought not to forget • that we were working for the great community of nations, and not for ourselves alone. The value of labour, like everything else, must depend on the re lati:.n between the supply and the demand. With. out proper caution, machinery, he thought, injurious; but, having been established, it would now be use less to discontinue it, for other nations would not fol losi the example. Mr. bfAXWELL hoped that this Petition would be attended to. Ile hoped that the Right Honour able Gentleman. opposite n ould postpone his Bill lot the repeal of the Spitalfi. ids Act, in order that time might be given for its. consideration. Mr. PHILLIPS and Mr. RICARDO explained and time Petition was ordered to lie on the table and be printed. Mr. SCARLETT moved that the Order of the Day for the house resolving itself into a Committee upon the Lancaster County Court Bill should be read. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL opposed the read ing of the Bill at that moment, as his Honottrable and Learned Friend the Solicito . r-General was absent. Lard A. HAMILTON. did not rise to oppose the present Bill. But he saw the Sheriff,-Depute Bill standing fifth upon the list: he-wished to know if the Leatned Lord opposite meant to : bring on the Bill that night? • The LORD ADVOCATE said he had postponed the Bill at least three times, to suit the convenience of the Noble Lord; and he was certainly dein ous of .bringing .it forward to•night, if he could do so to the convenience of the House. The Order of the Day was then read, and after a iew ob.et vations from the ATTORNEY-GENERAL and Lord Aurtiono, the House went into a Committee, and the Bill, with its amendments, having been le potted by Mr, ►_3ROGDEN to the House, the Report was lead, and ordered to be taken into further con sideration on Wednesday next. RECIPROCITY OF DUTIES BILL. Mr. HUSKISSON moved the Order of the Day for the reading of this Bill. Mr. ROBERTSON thought that it did not require any naval knowledge to ascertain that it was utterly impossible oar ships could compete with the fleets of other nations, and that therefore they required protecting duties. It was with great pleasure that he had heard from a Noble Lord, the First Lord of the Treasury, when addressing a body of shipowners, declare that the Navigation Laws were the best pre servatives against the competition of other nations. Mr. HUSKISSON said that he had no intention of discussing the measure at this moment, but he might be allowed to state, that he could more effec tually. explain it when he brought the measure fairly before the House. The Order of the Day was then read, and the se cond reading postponed until Friday. Mr. CA LCItAFT gave notice, that he should not bring for ward his motion on the Leather Tax during the present Session. Mr. GOULBURN moved that the House, at its rising, do adjourn until llonday.--Agreed to. STANDING ORDER. 11r-.BANICES moved the rescinding of the Standing Order respecting the Committee of Trade. Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW said a few words in support of the resuming of that Order, and the House agreed to the motion. TITHE* COMMUTATION BILL. On the motion of Mr. GOULBURN, the Order of the Day for the recommitment of the Tithes Com mutation Bill was then read. On the motion that the SPICA IC ER do leave the Chair, Sir J. NICHOLL rose, not to oppose the Motion. The Bill in question affected not merely the tithes of ' the Clergy, but of the laity. Commutation of tithes had been proposed by some of the ablest statesmen at va rious times, but in England such a commutation had been found totally impracticable in their operation. But in Ireland he was willing to think that the con trast of the country required some such measure, and he confessed that his approbation of the Bill would be much stronger if the grounds of difference were stated more clearly in the preamble of the Bill. He should merely suggest that the preamble be postponed. The SPEAKER then left the Chair, and the House went into a Committee. - On moving that the preamble should be postponed, Mr. GOULBURN observed, that the Bill was, in his opinion, merely applicable to Ireland. Mr. WETHERELL, on the clause that the notice should be served upon the_incumbent, suggested that the time should be extended to 21 days instead of as; unfortunately, it did not always happen that the incumbent resided upon his living. A very desultory discussion arose upon the clause, which was at length amended. On the clause that the Lord Lieutenant should have the power of appointment in certain cases, Mr. WILLIAMS opposed the clause, and thought it ought altogether to be omitted. Mr. GOULBURN suggested, that as this was a measure of experiment, it would be right to ascertain. by practical experience the benefit of the measure. Several clauses were brought up and agreed to, after some few observations interchanged between Mr. GOULBURN, Mr. PEEL, Mr. CALCRAFT, and Sit J. NEWPORT, upon the clause for imposing a tithe on grass land ; but at the same time restricting the pro prietors of such land from having any vote in the ap pointment of valuators'. Mr. D. BROWNE objected to it. Sir J. NEWPORT agreed that it was a hardship on him whose land was to pay tithes, that he should have no controul over the inspector; but yet was of opinion, that under all the circumstances it was ne cessary to this Bill. Mr. V. FITZGERALD thought that some of the clauses of the Bill would give the incumbent the whole power of assessment, which would be alto gether in opposition to the general spirit in which the measure was brought in. 'The Vestry should not be limited to twenty; and, in point of fact, - this Act' could not be executed by parochial machinery. He wished the people to have a greater share in their own affairs—in order to their self-importance ; but an the present condition of Ireland such a change was utterly impracticable. Sir H. PARNELL said, that from his knowledge of a great part of Ireland, he was sure this measure could and would be beneficially executed. With re spect to the appointment of Vestries, he wished them to be placed on the same footing as they were in this country. The Vestry might be general in the first instance, and could then select twenty-one to act. Mr. D. BROWNE admitted that a Bill was neces sary for the commutation of tithes; but the Bill pro posed would nut effect the desired object. They had not machinery to work at, where the greater part of the Gentry were absentees, and Much of the land was held by Companies who lived in London. Mr. A BERCROMBY wished to render the Vestry as independent as possible of the Clergymen. r. PEEL entirely concurred with the Honourable Member. It was an easy task for any one to say there were many difficulties in this case. In Ire land there were twenty-four or twenty-five parishes, with millions paying tithe. The question cannot be one of perfection—but as to whether it will lead to melioration. The only other remedy proposed to lower this Bill, was a Commission appointed by the Lord Lieutenant. How was it to begin? Was there to he one Commission to go everywhere, ma Branch Commission? or was one Judge to be appointed, who was to adjudicate without appeal ? How was this to be effected? Such all . arrangement as that _ _ TH E EVEINTINAR. LONDON. SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1823. - THE STOCK EXCHANGE, TwEivartmott Cnnsolh opened this morning at - 81 heavy, and little business is doing. brings the French Funds of Thursday FOREIGN FUN This being settling-day for all Foreign Brokers are busy in winding up their: little is doing. Spanish Bonds opened Current Prices:—Cbilian wattling New Prussian 841 85, Russian BO!, lornbial 601—waa done at 62. PRICE OF STOCKS AT Bank Stock 219 1 4-3 per Ceni 3 per Cent. Cons. 80% % 3 / 4 3 1 / 2 per Cents. 91 78-4 per Bank 'Long Annuities 201 _ India Stock 251 1 / 2 —lndia Bonds ELcliequer.Pills of £l,OOO, l' Ditto Small 175. 204 Conbols for Account 813 A 1/8 Private letters from Paris, of the Regency has been formed of three Spanish Noblemen, of biographical notices in another that an immediate attempt at made, but whether the offer Frehch, the ne Ministers at by means of a moderate part) the Constitutionalists and the Ult .It was rumoured in Paris that the Spaoish Minister s demanded, as a pitliminary to all negociatibes,. Ike the French should withdraw their forces beyond, the Ebro. It is stated, in a private letter from Paris, that M. de Virx.Eul had caused it to be announced to the Syndic of the stock-brokers that MINA had entered' Barcelona, where the corps of MILAN/I and LLoataA had previously retreated. 'this forenoon we received Corunne Papers to flit . 14th in - Stant, and we give from them the folleir• ing speech of Sir ROBERT Mull; with few con. mentsit speaks for itself, and it osr Readers ea go through it, we will answer for their feeling sufficient portion of surprise and disgust Wa these. ever such an exaltado as his Excellency, he is called now ? We wonder whit pretension, toesteUeOca Abe Spaniards can have found ten it him. His speech, from beginning to end, is ft o jrnalinionsistency. He tells you a fact whisk we dare say, gentle Reader, you were not awate ef— that y.ou haee the honour of being reptesented trybis Excelleky Sir ROBERT Wlrrrox, K.T.M. &c. u:lte British Nation, Whose Representative I am r sap he—it is. needless to make any comment upon sorb a specimen of assurance. . In the Field of Mars he calls England the Land cf Freedom and Liberty—at the Crown and Anchs 'her used to say " it is not fit to lire in—and at are lapsing Fast into despotism!" The only part of the oration which gave us any satisfaction, was to hear that he has become an adopted son of Spain.— There let. him go—" ills se jadd in add coke— There let him make Radical speeches, wear all bio blushing honours, and be called his Excellency!— Thank GOD, Old England can just contrive to got on without him.—We wish his new patent joy opot having adopted him. We must make one more remark. lie calls 1314 LASTENOS and ADISIAL the real patriots and defer' ders of Spain. We wonder what his Excellency thinks upon that subject now—since they have abjured the Cause which he pretends to serve, and have declare, for a modified Constitution ? Such conduct as this ir indeed real patriotism ! When, they saw that the Cortes were unpopular, and that their cause was counter to the feelings of the nation, they followera course which will join all hearts and hands in lir°. curing for Spain a Constitution of freedom, not Of licentioushess; and in ridding their unhappy country from the miseries of foreign invasion : .. - - . (Toustmano).) SUPPLEMENT TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DIARY OF CORUNNA, MAY 13, 18113. " Careens—The harangue inserted underneath was pronounced yesterday in the Field of Mars, in front of the national troops and the army composing this garrison, by the distinguished General, die free man, the gallant warrior. his Excellency Sir Bakst Wilson: in it you see manifested his generous senti ments, and those of the whole English nation. Whs part devolves now upon us? That of corresponding to smelt exalted sacrifices, by surpassing them in our own persons, inasmuch as ours is the greater interest , Le: us redouble our efforts, for we shall do notbig but. perform our daty s the law demands it: the lre ridur of the nation will be thereby upheld, and 14 shall froth tie very moment lay the foundation d our happiness. Away with egotism: let us take* an example this deserving Englishman, who sigma so active a part in our salvation ; and let us forks from incurring opprobrium and ignominy by nil paying proper attention to him. Shall we ahialki the country to the mercy of oppressors, and dui" without the hope of ever being able to obtain 014 friends, as perhaps they might never more tarn di 'eyes on us with compassion? Our unhappy lot r be fixed and Jasticgs if we do not, united. toes* and active, assimble around the Constitutiolli tiAin EaThepee:l;lattreTL y at 88f, sec, [ND& 'rigs Securities, ti!olt of • accounts, coomume, ed at 37i, done, New Spa% Danteit nothinT* r ONE O'CLOCk. ent. Redo. 80 79% 4 Cents. Old 97% % 5•16 londs 375. 354 16s. 19s. . - fa 1 4. rf Thursclay,.:it; at Madrid, f whom we have • column. It is tbuo g at negociation will be will come from thi Seville, or be efeabi ty interposing boatel Ultras, seems doubtful, 1 . • smillellllllook. by a Commission was utterly impracticable. The amount of the tithe paid was to constitute the eligi bility of a party so interested in the commutation of tithe to he placed on the Vestry, to adjust the tithes generally. He, befose sitting down, Must pay a high ' compliment to the liberality of the Irish Representa tives in that House, who had voluntarily consented, to subject their lands to this species of commutation of tithes. He deprecated entering generally into the principle now, and hoped the House would consent at present to take the Bill into discussion part by part. Mr. V. FITZGERALD thought it impossible to' cure the error of this Bill, except through the ap pointment of a Commission which emanated from the Crown. Ile warned the House of the inadequacy and danger of this measure for introducing a general commutation of tithes. . Mr. S. RICE said, there was a possibility of the lay irnpropriator procuring improper persons to be nominated on these Vestries. He thought this might be met by taking them, not from the nomination of clergy or lay impropriators, but from taking the qua lification from the payment of the larger quantity of county rate. Mr. W ETIIERELL, though not favourable to Universal Suffrage in those tithe questions at. Vestries, certainly thought that where there were only three or four great landed proprietors, "and perhaps tw•A or three hundred smaller ones, the latter should nut be totally excluded. Mr. GOULBURN believed there was now no ob jection in the.nlinds of any to the principles of •com mutation. The safest practice would be to follow the principle of selecting on these Vestries the largest tithe payers, as the Bill proposed. Mr. GRATTAN thought there was little difficulty or danger to be apprehended from the establishment of these Vestries, which, he thought, woulJ be bailed in Ireland with pleasure and gratitude. Mr. V. FITZGERALD explained that he only ob. jetted to Veitries so constituted. The Catholic tithe payer could not sit on such Vestries. This objection Was a very serious one. Mr. R. SMITH objected that the Bill required, not a tender of the tithe, but an actual payment of the tithes so commuted. He hoped this clause would for the present be withdrawn. Mr. GOULBURN said he should adopt the sug gestion of the Hon. Gentleman. After a few words from Mr. Gotmsoav and S 4 J. NEWPORT, the clause was postponed for the purpose of being amended. The original Amendment moved by Col. BARRY to the clause that the Commissioners should have a power ofincreasing the value of livings one-third from the average of the last seven years, was withdrawn. Mr. GOULBURN proposed an Amendment of the, same clause, that in any case whete such estimate was not considered a fair equivalent, it might be law- • ful for the Commissioners to raise theliyings one-third. Col. BARRY opposed the reception of clause. Strangers-were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided. The numbers were— For Mr. Goulbtun's Amendtstent . - - 73 Against it - 63 Majority - - - - . —lo' Mr. GOULBURN:—Upon the clause the force of it was:voluntary and not compulsive. •• • • Mr. D. BROWN moved, that the Chairman re port progress, as the best way of putting an end to" the discussioq. _ . Mr. PEEL objected to the motion. Mr. R. MARTIN thought it was a great hardship that Government should be forced. into this measure, and that those who supported them should now turn round upon them. A fair measure of compensition should be given to the Clergy,- and he hoped, with a view to its passing the other House, th:at such a rnea : sure would be agreed to. I, continued the Hon. Member, supported the Hon. Member for Kilkenny, and if he now turned round about me, I think it f uo_a.r. Mr. D. BROWN.—I am unaware of the obligation. Mr. R. M A ItTIN.—I kept the Hon. Gentleman's relative in the Representation of the County, when he could not have done it—( Hear, hear). The House then resumed, and the CHAIRMAN having reported progress, obtained leave to sit again on Monday. MR. SHERIFF THORPE. On the motion of Mr. Huila', an order was made to release Mr. Sheriff Thorpe from further attendance on the House. • , Adjourned at half-past One till Monday. The Memoirs of WILLIAM HATLEY, Esq. the Friend and Biographer of COWPILIt, will appear in a few days. Of this important Work, which formed a principal ob ject of Mr.HA YLEY'S attention, during the latter part of his life, the Author speaks thus is his Introduction: " The life of a sequestered Student, food of books and pri vacy in all the periods of his existence, seems at first to offer materials for nothing more than a short and simple history ; but incidents, very singular in themselves, and productive •f conse quences no less extraordinary, befell the subject of this Memoir, and though ever devoted to retirement himself, he bad so much intercourse with many of the most memorable Characters of his time, that a fair and full account of him must inevitably be a work of considerable diversity." LIVERPOOL, MAY 27.—1 t is a gratifying citcum stance, that whilst the agricultural interest of the ' country is gradually recovering from its -recent de pression, the manufacturing . districts are in a state of unprecedented activity. Numerous factories are rem ing, and some thousands of cottages have within a short period sprung up for the accommodation of the' increasing number of artisans. We are happy to state, -that the shipping interest, also, which for some time was in a most depressed state, even worse than that of agriculture, but which depression the ship-owners bore with mere fortitude and much less repining, is now comparatively flourishing. Good vessels are in demand, and are - becoming scarce. Our dock quays are crowded withsoods tor export ; and life and ac tivity pervade o f the marine ' departments. In every carpenter's yard one or more vessels are build ing ; and every man able and willing to work may now readily obtain employment. The only parts about the docks which are in danger of being moss grown are the timber-yards, which are comparatively emptied of their contents, from the amazing quantity of timber which has lately bien sent up the country, for buildings in the manufacturing districts. The tonnage of the port of Liverpool, for the last year, exceeded that of the preceding year by 53,054. tons; . and there is every probability that this.year will ex hibit a considerablojacreassu, Such is-the State. of Liverpool in May, 1823. • •