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Ran indla and other Prohibited Goods Saccades, Books, Prints, Pictures, Ste. Vol COMVITSION : Cambric and other Linen Drapery, Lace, Thrown Silk, Bough Amethysts, Jewellery, 113olts, Pictures, Prirts, Grocery, Verdigris, Tonquin Beans, Cross Bows, Morels, Basks, Win Candles; Whiskey and other Spirits; Wine, Clibia, Stone; Deals, Mahogany, rustic and other Wood; Boats; a Vessel called the " Parfaite Union ;" and sundry other Goods, as molt:need in the Catalogue, clear of all Duties. Also, Hops, Deed Herbs, Calamus Aromatiac. Spars, Deals, Tb:svwood„ Staves, &c. f.,r Exportation, Ditty.frt.e, or for 1 tome Cur itimption, on payment of the Duties of Custoins and Excise. To be vie:yell at the Tobacco Ground, llotherhithe; and the Ki ng ' s W.lrdiause and Cellars, Custom-House, on Tuesday the loth, 'Wednesday the SOth, Thursday t h e Stitt, and Friday the 1::•I instant. (ruin Ten o'Clock in tin; .31ot . ili::g to Three in the Art. ninon. \.n. Goods ballast at this &de must bs paid for a! the Re c.i7tv of Fines and Forfeitures: Mee, Custom-liouse, on or Monday. the 18th illarch, or tic Deposits made atisolutzdy iseeonse forfeited. tcs be had at the King's Warehouse, Castorn )ious:, price One Shilling each. • .~ REPUBLIC OF COLOMBIA. tHE Holders of Ai Debentures issued by FRAN / Asroxio Zas, Viee-Presitient of the Bt.publie (• • tn.ty tredve the First Dividend of Seven and a half T .. r he arnlvinv on FRI1).11", the 22d day of 11ant.it, and nt: every sueee:dins TUP.SDA .r.nd FR IDA Y, 11.. tween the• Ilaura of Eleven and Three o'Clock, at the lace of the Ccr:miv.re of British Creditors, No. 3, Freeman's -court, N.D. Pat des wishing to avoid being detained, may send Lists : :::e .intounts and Numbers of the Debentures they hold, to two days previous to the abovemencioned date. February 18, 1322. ii3iT,::trANT to a Decree of •1!e !Ugh Court of Ciancery, made in a Cause ALLORTIIOI.: against %tut : . Lhe Creditors of RICHARD SEVER, late of the City Get.:Lmer, Nia!tster, deceased, %vim died on or about the : 4 day c.f Deceni.wr, 1616, are, on or before the Ist day of • I %Zs), to earne in and prove their Debts b e f u r e F RANCIS * stst3, r: 1 . one of the 31asters of the said Court, Llt his Chant ! St.utitaastan.buildings, Chancery-lase. lAndon ; or, in . fau:t :het% of, they will be peremptorily excluded the benefit the ..tid D.cr.:e. C 20,000 NEXT TUESDAY. AZARD and C. hope to be as fortunate NEXT TUF,..SDAY, as they were in the last and pis s Lottery, when they had the pleasure of dividing the foi -1 ••ving Capital Prizes, vis. 13,900 15,902 Ael,r 7 , the Purchasers at their old.establi,hcd Offices, 93, 110 TAT rzcnA.cr, 1321, OXFORS-STRICIT, corner ConNot:.t., of Swallow-street. Tile very U . .; it ize drama NEXT Tt'tenAv Will have £20,000. The Scheme contaiva Fite of £9.0,000-70 other Capitals— and Not TWO Blanks to a Prize. 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Er This Volume will be found to contain a more full and sceuratc narrative of the events of the year 1797, than has hitherto appeared. Much care has been bestowed upon the account of the Domestic l'toctedings of Great lkitaiu and France ; and the history of the gruzglus, negrKiations, and in. gigues in Italy, Ls been composLd fram new el:scurr.etsta of it:..qut atonable authori:y. Printed for F. C. and J. Rivington, 62, St. Paul's Church ysed; and 3, Waterloo-plies, Pall-mall. rj The Voltune fur the year 1728 will be published in &few' months; and Butt for 1749 is in forwardness. The Volume fur 1210, in continuation of the Second Series, will appear on the ; 4 0th of . .113tch.. ItiVingtops here just published a Volume for ib4o, emu:ilea:4lg with the Rap of Ms present Majesty, I:.te 15,.. - - - --- The LORD CHANCELLOR brought in a Bill to enable Judges of Assize, in case of delay and interruption in their arri val, to open the Assize on the day following that specified in the Commission, en explaining the reasons °, their delay.—Read a first time, and ordered to be printed. 3TATIONERY IN IRELAND. The Earl of DARNLEY seeing a Noble Viscount in his place, wished to remind him of the pledge which he had given last year, that an inquiry should take place in the mode of sup plying Stationery to the Goverpment Offices in Ireland, a mode which he (Lord Darnley) considered as attended with gross abuse and loss to the Public. He wished to know, whether, during the residence of the Noble Viscount and of his Majesty in Ireland, an inqui r y h a d b een instituted into the conduct of the individual charged with those practices—an individual of whom it was but justiee to say, that during the Ring's visit, whatever other allegatiorticreght exist against him, had con ducted himself in a manner which , did him the highest credit, by using his best exertions to give effect to the conciliatory re commendations of his Majesty? Should he find that the pro- raised investigation had not taken place, he should think it his duty to bring the subject once more before their Lordships. Viscount SIDMOUTH said that le Was in constituente of an assurance given him by the late Right Hon. Cfiref Staetary for Ireland, befor e th e N o bl e L or d h a d ma d e any mo d on on the subject, that he felt himself authorised last year, to state that.an inquiry would take place. When in Ireland, he had again s,)oken to the same Right lion. Gentleman, who had Warmed inns that an inquiry was at that very moment proceeding. Of its result he (Lord Sidmouth) was ignorant. The Earl of DARNLEY knew that an inquiry had been in stituted, and papers laid on their Lordships' table some time since ; but it was in consequence of those not being satisfactory, that he had called for further elucidation. Viscount SIDMOUTI-I had been informed by the late Chief Secretary for Ireland, that it was ou the very points which the Noble Earl had represented u not satiafactorily explained that the inquiry was pending. The Earl of LIVERPOOL observed, that the Noble Earl opposi:e might be informed in the course of a day or two re specting the progress of the inquiry, as by that time be could have an opportunity of inspecting the documents. The Eal of DA RNLWY said he was willing to wait a month forger, but unless his Majesty's Ministers brought forward the question before Easter, he should certainly introduce some mo tion in reference to it. STATE OF TUE COUNTRY. The Earl of LIVERPOOL had requested a few hours, when their Lordships last met, before be answered the ques tion put by a Noble Marquis, re , peeting the most convenient course for bringing the state o r the country before the House. lie could now say, that be would be prepared at an early day to move for certain Estimates, similar to those which had been produced In another place, and for other documents calculated I to throw light upon the state of the country, before any mea j sure was brought up from the other House. As he understood I that Monday would not be a convenient day, he should propose Tuesday next, and should move that their Lordships be sum moned for that day. The Marquis of LANSDOWN concurred in the arrange ment mentioned by the Noble Earl. He did not wish to hurry the House into a premature decision with respect to the mes sures proposed, or even into au expression of its sentiments; but when such important objects as Taxation, the Funded Sys tem, and the Currency of the ,Country, were in question, he thought it proper that their Lordships should be well informed on the subject before the Hills were brought up Irons the other Houw. Once received, it would be too late to lane as.adreo tivc investigation. The question was then put and carried, and their Lordships were ordered to be summoned for Tuesday next. AGRICULTURAL DISTIMSS. Fall STANHOPE held a Petition, signed by six or seven hundred Owners and Occupiers of Land in the County of Kent, who complained of Agricultural Distress, and prayed for relief and the reduction of the taxes. He did not think it necessary to enter at length upon those topics, as they were to be discussed on Tuesday, and he hoped there would be many opportunities to inquire into the causes of that general and unexampled distress which now prevailed. Ile did not agree with those who attri buted it to the great impartation of corn which had taken place some years ago, for its operation could not have lasted so long, and the prices were higher when It lasted than they were now. Neither was corn the sole produce of the country which had been reduced in value. Cattle were equally depreciated, and yet there had been and could be no importation of foreign cattle.— Some maintained that excess of production, and not excess of importation, bad occasioned the existing distress; but the real CUM was one much more natural and more difficult to remove —excess of taxation. The prices were the same in 1792 as they were at present, and there was no distress, because only 15 or 16 millions were then raised in taxes, whereas the enormous sum of 55 millions . was now levied from the people. The same dis tress existed in other countries, where taxation, bearing no just proportion to their natural means, was imposed to support great military establishments, improper in time of peace. The only remedy was to reduce the public burdens to the same amount as the value of the currency had been lowered. For that pur pose the interest of the National Debt must be reduced 40 or 50 per cent. and if any such proposition was made, he should be ready to contend that the measure was a just one, and involved no breach of public faith. The Revenue had been described as flourishing, but it bad not been stated whether the taxes were paid by the people out of their capital or out of its rroduce. He believed that in a short time they would not be paid at all. He hid before called upon their Lordships to pause and meditate be fore they ventured on that fatal measure, the resumption of Cash Payments, as if it were attempted to force it. into execution, no thing but national bankruptcy could ensue. He entreated their Lordships to look at the state of Ireland, which did not arise from political or religious causes, but from that distress which had originated in 1819, when the measure for resuming of Cash Pay ments was adopted. He entreated them, in justice to all the great interests which were at stake, in justice to the people, who were suffering so deeply, to turn their mind to that abyss of ruin, now open at their feet. They stood on the brink of a pre cipice, from which it might not be possible to retreat without difficulty, but beyond which they could not proceed without ruin and destructi.m. The Noble Lord concluded by moving that the Petition be laid on the table, but on account of some infor mality, he was afterwards allowed to withdraw it. The Marquis of LANSDOWN presented a Petition from certain Occupiers of Land in the County of Dorset, and the adjaceut parts of the Counties of Hants and Wilts, praying far Agricultural Relief.—Read and laid on the table.—Adjoutncd. HOUSE OF COM MONS. Mr. 'Maws took the oaths and his 7rat on his re-election. Nr. Ilionaas, from the Oflice of the Commissioners for the reduction of the National Debt, presented certain papers front that ffilice.—Ordered to li: uu the table. A Return was ordered of the Flat and Tallow imported into Great Britrin, in the course of the last year. Air. BERNAL wished the Honourable Secretary fur the Colonial Department, to state, as the fact was, that there could be no foundation for a report which had found its way into the Public Papers, that an Order in Council had issued, atitlimising the opening of the tr..de b e tween the Wi.st ludies 'and America? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER answered, in July next, when the present Act would expire. Mr. BENNET said, it would be in the recollection of the House, that last Session certain inquiries were made of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite relative to Mr. Theodore Hook. It was then said, that the opinion of Mr. Solicitor-General was about to be taken on the question, whether any criminal pro ceedings could be sustained against Mr. Hook. He (Mr. Ben net) wished to know whether the opinion had been obtained, and what measures had been taken to recover the balance due from Mr. Hook to the Public? The CH A NCKLLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave an as surance that Government had taken every means in their power to recover the money.—The Report was then read a first and second time. On the motion of the CHANCF.LLOR of the EXCHE. QUER, it was ordered that the House should to-morrow re solve itself into a Committee of Ways and Means. Mr. BONNET moved for an Amount of the Monies due from Mr. Theodore Hook to his Majesty's 'freasyry, and of the measures takca to recover the same, with the names anti descrip dons of his sureties. Lord JOIIN RUSSELL wished to ask a question of the Noble Marquis opposite. It was known that the Spanish Go vernment, by a wise economy, had resolved to leave oil the cus tom of permanently sending Ambassadors to Foreign Courts.— In consequence of this regulation, he apprehended our own Am bassador at the Court of Madrid might properly be withdrawn ; but he understood that the Gentleman who was there at pre sent had been made Secretary of Embassy from being Sccre.ar7 of Legation. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, there would be no saving by withdrawing the Gentleman alluded to, for he would in that case be entitled to a pension. The arrangement was, that he merely retained his rank._ RELIEF OF THE COUNTRY. Lord ALTHORPE said it would have been infi nitely to his satisfaction if some other Member, more capable, had taken up this subject; but having heard the plan of the Noble Marquis opposite—having heard it discussed, and generally considered as totally inefficacious, and seeing that no opportunity was pt o posed to be given by Ministers for taking the sense of the House upon the measure, he thought it neces sary to submit the motion which he was about to bring under their attention. lie knew very well that if he had only to consider these questions with re ference to the degree of swisfaction with which the country regarded the plan of the Noble Marquis, it would be testuced to a very narrow compass indeed. prcposed to consider, first of all, what, in his opinion, ought to be the policy of the Government in the pre:.ent situation of the country ; and; in doing so, he was aft aid he should be obliged to enter into some details which he felt his inability to do justice to, but which he would confine to as short a com pass as possible. And with regard to the opinion which the Noble Marquis and several others seemed to entertain, that taxation had nothing to do in pro ud dug the picent distress, he had thought, below Mr. %VII.MOT was happy to nuke the ►tatement requested by the Hou. Member. There was no Paw authorising the issue of such an Order in Council, the Act giving such a power having expired six months after the Tremy of Peace. Sir JOHN SKIM I GHT presented a Petition from the OWlll'ff and Occupiers of Lard in Hertfordshire, complaining of Aga icultanal Distress. A Petition on the same subject, praying for a reduction of taxes, and fur Parliamentary Reform, was pre-waited by the same lealther.--Both Petitions were ordered to lie on the table Mr. LOCK II JIRT presented a Petition from certain Owners and Occupiers of Land In Suffolk, c in.i.lae.;!•.‘ of 111:rea, and • praying far i. rateraing Dodge upon die for„t,,,km of Aides ' the present Session. that it was nbt necessaiy to argue produce.--oeared to lie al Ike table. , upon such a question; for, whatever theories might Mr. BlitNETT_Lef Wife) erol l llllllll a regf r =" ll ., I be advanced upon the subject, it must be evident to Di arreaL Lancl4willers nfx,,,,,,..., ll . lll plaids", he could vouch. fee the poem : I all t i a: tilt re was no difference between our situation racy of the perm., and for the t„peetahuhl of the p ee ki n g 's . at present and that of 1792. than in the amount of O`er red w lit oa the tab. our taxation and our great di stress at present (Hear) : Mr. DENISON ressoted a Petition a g r ee d to at t h e l ate The cur re was Surrey Couaty Made& and signed by t h e Sheriff. It coin- ncy same—the nomi piained, the Has . M e mb er said, warmly, but respectfully, of the articles of consumption w a s the same value of ; the only distress and pauperism late which the agricultural interest had the nal the difference, in short, was the enormous weight of tax. fallen. It attributed meek of that dktress to the wasteful ex- ation—(Hear).—The Noble Marquis contended, on penditure of the public money, mad the want of a popular repre sentation ia Parliament : aad it prayed for the repeal of the taxes upon salt, malt, soap, and candles, and fora Reform in Parliamaat. The Hoe. Member added, that it the Meeting in q u alt Arbeadment to the original Resolution had been Prop by a Noble Lord, nearly connected with the Noble Marquis opposite, eating that " the measures proposed by mi_ a . former night, that the landholder gave away in taxes no more than one-seventh of his rent—and, to weaken his own argument, he admitted that be gave away one-fifth. On what data the Noble Marquis had founded his calculation, he Lord Althorpe) was at a loss to understand. But it appeared to h im that the nisrers for the relief of the country, could not be effectual.^...- This was a itran ge circumstance, coming, as it did, f rom a qua „. Noble Lord, in leaving out of view the p r e ssure o f ter connected with Ministers . As for him se lf, h e thought the indirect taxe s on t h e farming interest, omitted one measures alluded to, andespeeially that of an issue of Exchequer of the greatest causes of pressure. The Noble Mar. thus, would add to the burdens of the country, and assist none quis ought to have known th a t th e e ff ect o f taxes on but contractor s an d stock-jobbers. the necessaries of life w as not mere l y to i ncrease Sig IOU; it4mauaN supported the Petiti on , and thought saki tlk - lion. Member for 'Surrey, that the Measures their price, but that it also raised the price of labour, by Moisten for the relief of the country, would prove made- Taxes of this nature pressed most on the agricultural quote. Indeed he considered that the shilling a bushel un labourer. The manufacturing labourer being paid malt had better have remained in the pockets of Ministers t ha n . • for his skill and ingenuity, in addition to his labour, be offered to the agriculturists as a relief of their distresses. It could have no effect but that of disgusting them. H e cou ld as . was enabled, in ordinary times, to obtain the luxuries sure Ministers that be wished them to keep their places as much of life ; and, when pressed by taxation, was still enao as they did themselves : but it was on condition that they bled to procure the necessaries of life. Th e 2rielit s • shewed som e sy m p at h y f or t h e sufferings of the People, and g rural labourer had only th e bare necessaries of life, I consented to a Reform of t h e P ar li ament , w i t h out b oth of which and these he must have, eith er f rom t h e wages o f hi s he would never support any Minister or any set o f men.—The Petition was then ordered to lie on the table. labour, or from parochial relief. It was evident, then, Mr. Sheriff GAILZATT presented a Petition front the Lord that whatever increased the price of labour must in- Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City, praying, crease the price of all articles procured by labour. If that leave be given to bring in a Bill to provide for the repairs of London Brid g e.—R e f erre d to a Committee. ta u be the case, it must be apparent that taxation to The Sheriff presented another Petition from the same per. a great extent, by increasing the expense of produc sons, praying fora similar Bill with respect to blackfriars Bridge. tion, must be a great cause of the distress. If tax- Ordered to lie on the table. ation be the main cause of distress, the obvious re- Mr. W. SMITH, re f err i ng to a f ormer mot i on fora R eturn of the numb er o f E xtents i n Aid i ssued w i th i n a given period, medy was to diminish that taxation.-(H ear ).—Di stress moved for a further Return of all Extents in Aid issued from could never be removed by raising the prices. Great the 31st of December last up to the present time. He made retrenchment, so as to enable the farmer to raise his this motion in consequence of the extension of these writs having produce at a much less cost—that was the true and caused so much discontent in the country, that a disturbance was very likely to follow. his *stress— ear . only effectual remedy for d . (H ) Mr. WODEHOUSE was glad the Hon. Member had made They were told that a surplus of £5,000,000 would the motion, and trusted he intended to found some ulterior mea- arise in future over the expenditure of the country. sure upon it. It was a subject, an examination of which would His view of the case was, that taxes to that amount disclose the most flagrant abuses. Mr. GR EN FELL concurred In opinion wi t h t h e l ast spea k er , o ught to be taken off—(Hear, hea r ).—H e wou ld not . , and expressed his b e li e f, t h at o f a ll a b uses there was no one stand out for a reduction of the. supplies of the State which more than the present called for the interposition of Par- to the amount barely necessary for the public ser 'lament. He knew a case of recent occurrence in the city of vice; but he believed he could shew that, without London, in which one creditor had seized nearly the whole of producing any such effect, five million s m i g h t b e his debtor's property, to the injury, not t o say robbery, of all the rest.—The motioa was a g re e d t o. saved in the expenses of the country. Hi s o bj ect Mr. BERNAL moved for an account of the application of was to shew that the expenses ought and might be the sum granted las t S ess i on of Parliament for Army Extraor- reduced to the standard of 1792. It might be said dioaries, and the application of the balance upon the grant of 1820.—Ordered. that it was unfair to select that year for the criterion Mr. LUSHINGTON moved for leave to bring in a Bill to of a peace establishment, because Mr. Pitt was just rectify mistakes in the last Land Tax Bill. Leave was given, then in the course of making the reduction which the and the MI was brought in and read a first time. circumstances of the times called for. The plain sir AL W. RI D LEY gave notice that he should, on an early day, move for a Return of the Receipts and Expenditure of answer to this argument was, that the circumstances Greenwich hospital. of the times at present required th at the same severe Mr. Alderman WOOD said, that as the motion of a Noble system of retrenchment should be carried into exe- Lord (Althorpe) had excited much interest, he was willing to cution. But the House would find that his calcu postpone his notice respecting the City Petition to the 28th inst. and he postponed it accordingly. lations did not proceed upon the necessity of adapt- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (with the per- ing the expenditure 'of the present period exactly to mission of Lord Akhorpe, whose notice bad priority) moved, the amount of that of 1792. He should make an that the Report of the Committee of Supply be brought up.—The allowance for the necessary increase of expenditure Report was brought up; and on the question that it be read, which arose during the interval. He would first con- Sir R. HERON wished to know, whether the House could now be informed of the expenses occasioned by his Majesty's the military establishment of both periods: alder Coronation? A rmy E st i mates of 1792 - - - ,C2,33C,849 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the ac- To this he would add the increase of pay in the counts were not yet made up. same number of men since 1798 Mr. CALCRAFT wished to know when the proposed relief The Half-pay from the additional Malt Tax would take effect? 724,329 2,360,538 Total - So that, retaining the establishment of 179'2, and adding to the expense cf that establithment the amount of the increase of the pay, and also the amount of the half-pay, the whole expense mould be no more than 5,415,7361. Now let the House look at the present amount of the exi_e se of the A7my. The Army Estimates for this year amounted to 7,774,0001. she% ing a clear increase over the esta blishment of 1792, with an allowance for the dif ference of pay and that of half-pay, of 2,358,364/. He felt himself incompetent to the task of shewing in detail how a reduction of expenditure might take place. But if Ministers were seriously disposed to give relief to the country, they ought to decrease the military establishment ; and, if they shewed no dis ' position of doing that, under present circumstances, perhaps they might be forced to it, in case they were deprived of the surplus of five millions. In the Co lonial Department he was sure great reductions might be made. Why should not the Colonies be able to support their own establishments? If the expense of each of the-establishments was maintained out cf the income which it produced, a great weight would be taken off the people. The Colonies had been looked to in two points of view—in a commercial view, and as they increased our strength. In a com mercial view they greatly contributed to support the empire; but it could never be said that they added to our strength, seeing that they pressed so heavily on our resources. He would now proceed to consider the Navy Estimates according to the same mode of comparison as he had calculated those of the Army. The Navy Itftlmates for 1792 X 1,985,492 Increase of Pay 145,823 Half-pay 1,020,000 Total 5,151,305 The Navy Estimates for this year Increase - -2,348,69 S Here again vro a departmentin which a large re duction might be made. The number of dock-yards might, for instance, be decreased considerably. The three principal ones, that of Chatham, Portsmouth, and• Plymouth, would be quite sufficient for all the purposes of the public services if properly arranged. The dock-yard at Sheerness was so much money thrown away. The situation was not calculated for a dock•yard, because if ever an enemy's fleet got the command of the sea, it was most exposed to attack. Formerly the dock-yard might have been necess ar y t because of the difficulty, of bring ing ships out of Chatham harbour, but smck th 4 'location of steam- I :q : i 1 4 `i ! . , , • r.`“ 4