Star. — London, England, 1831-08-12 00:00:00

Catholics." bee: use they are el. siren** of pre ere Catho lic!. • 'Thar.) Ile earreitio boped that the prayer of the petition would t ^ -nmilied whh. Mr. STANLEY said that the Margurs of Anglesey had in &moment of exigency resorted to the met of the armed force which he foetid in nistence, and in so doing he had only. followed established rule; but as the es nduct of the yetWithnry was now under legal investigation in a particular icstanre, he would not now goite+ particulars. Ile was free to confess that he was not favourable to the calling out of the es etranny en all occasions ; it was not the best force ; but as to. sip Newtowobarretaffair, the M. rook of Anglesey had is Po soy unintelligible terms expressed his disepproustion of sloe ii,ihAliset of the magistrates . As to the conduct of the yeomanry. if these were any private tau a of oppression atones' °filters or privates. Levi Anglesey would he most ready to pay attention. With respect to Mr. O'Connell's statement, that in the imtance of a particular corps. where arms had been given to the Protestants and withheld from the Catholics. if it were !Premed and proved, there was no measure of severity that the :Movie of Anglesey would not he justified in adopting for rich interoper conduct. lie hoped the printing of the petition would nut be pint...ed., be. c.tusett expressed indignation at the ma s s acre" o f N ew . townbarry, and the readiness of the yeomanry to be engaged in murder." Mr. OCONNEI.I4 hoped Wu printing of the petition would be pressed. If the atrocious yeomanry force were continued armed, he would not answer for the blood that the Marquis of Anglesey and the right hon. gentleman well thereby cause to be shed. The mild language of the right ton. gentleman would do no good—tor it could not he for. gotten that the same right hon. gentleman had Proposed to transport persons having unregistered arms in their posse.. sion. Had the right hon. gentleman read the spr Oita of 11r. Osborne and Mr. Boyce. d istinguisheel Protestant "tentlenA., l at theWeitford county meeting ; tbny denounced the yeomanry foyer, declared it was not to he endured, and threatened (al. moat) rebellion to resift ft. lie then repeated the ease of the corps to the Catholic members of which arms had been re hised by the Commander D'Arey, of the u living's Town Corps," and who afterwards attended • procession. He also repeated the names of the parties to whom arms were refused. He had underwtood that the aiming of the yeomanry was to cease ; hut since then aims had been delivered. and very im ptoper characters had got arms. As to any investigation into the Newtownharry affair, the honourabk gentleman said be was not an sanguine as to expect it ; but he complained that the yeomanry there had been armed at all, for it was a sirs of classic ground for outrages of this kind. In that straw the officers would not give ordain to ire and yet the men fired. The petition would he reechoe d throughout Ireland. If increased protection were required—protection roe which the people paid .let the army be increased; the army and the people were on the best terms; but if they scored to stop the progress of ill feeling and the shedding ot blood, he implored the (loves nment to disarm the yea netnry. Nit. CoLE vindicated the conduct of the Fermanagh 31a , istmtes. Mr. BROW NLON' lamented that the yeomanry corps, I which were almost extinct. had been revived; it was a fatal step. He spoke of them as bodies, not in their individual and private capacity. The results were most calamitous. The right honourable gentleman had not given any sufficient 'awn for calling out the yeomanry. Sir .1. BURKE said, when people were fired urn with out any Riot Act having been read, he knew not what ba guette would be too strong to use. He saw no reason for re.i-ting the printing of the petition, and contended that the somaitry force was a bad force for Ireland. (Hear.) He •Nould vote for the printing of the petition. Sir. J. NEWPORT observed, that he had uniformly o..strproved of the yeomanry forte in Ireland; he doubted their utility in England. but they were ten thousand times more objectioosble in Ireland. He lamented that the pine* in,t of the petition was ohj.cted to, parkularly on so pe. et hat so occasion as the resent; and be hop ed that the Cu• ovemnnt would avail themselves of theearliest possible e?nortunity. to remodel the force for the protection of I r.tlanti.—(Hear.) Sir GE. t. CLERIC said. he should oppose the printing of the emition. because the Newtownbarry affair, called a ronssacre," was now under investigation. It would In. te-t't..re with the fete course of justice la Ireland. Capt. (JORDON hoped that the resistance to the print. to lof the petition would be persevered in. Did they forget the services of the yeomanry in 1798? But if these nightly attacks and vituperations were continued, he would Wog forward the conduct of the yeomanry to whom England and Ireland were so infinitely indebted for the preservation of their liberties. Mr. S. RICE lamented the attacks and language of the hon. *ember who last spoke, for his family's interests and fortunes were not bound up with the fate of Ireland. If, however. as an honest man, there was one allusion more us. favourable than another, it was reference to 1796. (Hoer.) • As to the bringing forward of these matters, he was gled there was the opportunity; but the printing of the petition was resisted in the way of appeal. the subj. et complained of being new under judicial investigation. The primiag now *mad be of •U consequence, as the p:titlun would go forth through Gee usual channel . V.r. W. F. WIRT said. that the prineple on which the yeomanry corps were established was vicious. They were not deficient in loyalty. their fault was their superfluous loyalty. kande aped-Wane constituted bed • ilitary forces. Mr. STANLEY had not opposed the printing of the pe. titian on any Government pounds, but because inquiries were in program, and thought at such a moment they ought sot to circulate language charging murders. If the House pressed the rioting of the petition he should not trouble them to divide. Mr. CONOLI.Y was spinet the printing of the petition, on the ground of the language it used, ohm inquiry was in progress. Mr. GRATTAN said, if the state of Ireland required the awning of the yeomanry. the case should have been proved by Committee. or otherwise ; but the Government lead made out no ease for the arming ot so large and pejo. diciel a force. If arms were given they ought to belleerill in discreet hands. If the Governmetit thought they mild resist the discussion of the question of the Union by manry and balls, they were mistaken ; such a p ing was oppression. Sir R. INGLIS said he should resist the printing of the petition containing inch violent language. charging the yeomanry with seeking any pretest to commit mu rd er. Mr LAMBERT maintained that there was not the least ground for the attack at Newtownbarry--.there was no riot. Arms had been placed in most improper hands In Wee. toed the question of the Union bad trade no way. He was desirous that the connection should matinee but nothing would be so fatal to its continuance as would be the with holding of IMNIMITeI of alleviation. If they did not do something. Ireland would be lost while they were delibe. hung. Mr. BODKIN mid. if they wishtd to bring back peace so Ireland, let &am disarm these yeomanry cogs. (Hem ) Thaw corps were not the exelusively loyal. • Mr. STANLEY said be had used spy :such es. previons t on the contrary. be bad constantly &dared. that lee woukl not allow them. or at y party, to appmpeate the description of being eaclusivaly loyal. Colette! PERCEVAL lamented the stair of Nes town. '.harry ; but a petition presented by him against the thy. numb Celine grant Led been refused to be printed, on 'Kurds net hrlf so strong as laid agairat this petition. As iodic yeomanry. they bad wavered most incalculable be. nett, oo Ireland. They wane requisite townie the moves. . inn between the two counties. Mr. !HAMMES spoken!' a me of the corps we being most disreputably formed—two had beet transported for • meal practices, abet two banged. and others were impropce clutracten They were most partially constituted. Boys net fourteen years of sic were amongst them. Before these t forestry corps were introduced Into his reentry the judges had nothing to do--all was named. Ho wised slaty =cps in wlicit them was nit ono stoma CaMilkilptulArr. . He read the names of amend members eta peril der can sea descriptions of them. One wow teemed a robbsemorttotbsa t picks otket--another a evened tbief--anodim the are. e vehber—sanhee a noted ebeep-siesier. Isar •.• ! Sir R. INGLIS append a doe Ina. niumbet:akelber asy.geod nada wank free orsibmg stab • lim e dagi eat . • reputed' charactene. Mr. BLANKNILT obsersed dust be bed unadorned diem to sbew the character tithe mega Lard MUSLIM mid disc one weeks sp• the bad% of awns to the yetwormy had bees suspended ; but since tans' maw bed Man rand ft the yummy asps. Mr. STA NLZIr implied est W eats lied bees defining le ohs resenney dig MO has besa pewriernsly hand se. enewleadiag Awe.: Ho added that done was ise re dent leGsenieg Ib,Laity twee. WRIN. ebeseast Met doe lassies daubed the at. mesas freoe4. ibis wield be Smile pethiese ems isms weer year is Is lbws meet he redeems ler weespet hula& tit Roy would be. Sneed ea doe nue* so a pods/ mire towidieueteesk _lea" esdr. jo %sena jug wan Sutionabodei Wend ;, :ow Irbh " yeomanry" were not like those of thiseountry ; they were a name without the reality. The country would be compelled to 4'031 redress; be only hoped that it would be conceded in time. Let the Government rely on the good sense of the nation, and not arm one pan of k against ma titer. He thought the plating of the petition ought not to be objected to. Mr. I.EFROY lamented that " three hours"—(hear, hear)-- should have been occupied with the question whether this petition ought to be brought up. What was desired, he belkved, by these debates, ma to disgust this country with the Union; he could see no other use that they could have. He hoped the House would diseounte• name them. Mr. WALKER maintained that this yeomanry force was badly constituted, worse disciplined, and most dangerous. —( Hear, bear.) The petition was frown inhabitants of Waterford, pray ing that the yeomanry of Ireland might be iliaanued, &c. was then br,ught up, and its title and prayer was read. Sir 11 NI USG R AVE then moved that it be printed. Me. I`TA NUN said be objected to much of the lan. because it used strong and unjustifiable expressions on a sue eet now under inquiry ; but as far as he was concern. ell he would not divide the house un the question. Sir G. WA it RENDRIt lament.d that theee discussions nightly took place, and considered that the molt imminent dattgirs hung over Ireland ; and tht refute felt that the irti :dying language ought not to be used. He was against the printing of the petition, as the friend of Ireland. Mr. (I CONNELL implored Gentlemen not to resist the printing of the petition. It would divert the attention of Ireland from Parliament; it would turn hope into despair. In-fetid of three or four meetings and petitions, there would be I,noo Ile whaled them to be encouraged to look to and to rely un the Parliament, and with that desire alone be spoke. Sir GEORGE MURRAY said, from what he saw of the petition, if the question went to a division, he must op pose the motion. Still he deplored that no measures had been adopted to heal the division between these two coon. tries ; and lumen ed that the government had only increased the opprestione of that unhappy but fine country. The Antis Bill war sn instance of deficient and weak rule, thumb he was ratified that the obnoxious part of it, weak as was the proposition of it, had been withdrawn. He deeply deplored that the healing measure of the last government Ibad not been followed up. However, he could not approve of language which charged the yeomanry with seeking " pretests to commit murder." Lord A LTHORP said they were placed in a pasta • situation, Leeman all must desire that irritation should not rbe increased. lie hoped the motion would be withdrawn. If printed the petition would irritate, and if not 'stinted the cause of irritation would be given ; but if there were division, deeply as be should deplore the proceeding, balancing the advantages and disadvantages, he must vote against the print- ing of it. Lord DUNCANNON said the people in the provinces would not understand the difference, end therefore be should vote fur the printing of the petition. (Hear.) Mr. HUNT said, even the gentle Lard Castlereagh bad not resisted the printing of petitions complaining of the Manchester massacre. inquiry was resisted, as it would be resisted here where the people bad been murdered; but it was then known that the best mode of letting feelings eva porate, was to receive anti print the petition. He hoped this liberal government would not be the lint to resist the print. ing of the petitions. Mr. SH lEL implored the Government not to resist this motion i it would be viewed as an insult to eight Wiliness( exasperated and agitated people. The state of things was disastrous in !reload, let not the difficulty be hwomed I but Increased it would be, and immensely, if this motion were lopposed. Int not the ministers listen to those whose ' pain was censure.' lit LRISCOR said the petition ought to be read; its facts ought to be known, and it could not be known except I it were printed. He hoped they would pause before they refused to print the petition, and thereby Increase the krises Woo in Ireland. Captain GORDON complained of the hem& Is stoma' speech of the bon. nembet ter Louth, (Pan WW) who had said that it was sollicirnt to nemstion his lime. That was unParlionssissi language, Old net seateleopy Is a society of gentlemen. Order and igrmito The WPBA RR inswispad, and feared this language was susceptible of stiseesessedea. Captain GORDON said, as Ihe as he understood, It was not the Mow that was tecogelsed In such as assembly, that was domains be meant to convey. Sir R. PRXLsaid be would withhold his consent to having the petition pointed, as be thought it would be ins:palm tolnejudge the conduct of men while their nide were still rstaibl• WHIRL, in an explasation, said that whatever had fallen from him bad not been meant as palmed ontruce to the hon. member (Capt. Gordon.) Captain GORDON expressed his satisfaction at the planation. Lord KILLEEN observed thee the petition had acquired more publicity by the discussion which took place this sight than it would acquire by its being printed; and feting twea. doted that the rejection of it by the house would mine iniquation in Ireland, he would woofer the printing. Mr. GRATTAN estp_poned the prinduget disposition. Mr. D. W. HARVEY, litelgreenideses le ilia reuse government, teethes satin tied that they woe the be menu in the woild who would safer intifikt ea beessunkeed with impunity, and convinced as be was of the impeopsiety prejudicing persons who might hereafter be tried. by the pub lication of charges against them, he would oppose die print ing of the petition. Mr. STAN LILY rose to state the real diets of the ease contained In the petition. Rills were sent iv for murder to the grand jury at the last eosins against Antares& with the crime. These bills were ignored. hills for mansieughwt , were then sent up, and all *mod romp one. The wit. omissions& that one were not In attendance when the trial came on; the colsequesee was that the trial was put raft' until the next babes. • The intestigation into the conduct of the magistrates was still geld. ea ; for that noses, be re. quested that this petition 'Wild net be printed. Mr. O'CONNELL understood that the single Wielded pint whom a true bill had bees found woe a Reels Catholic. He hoped his Hon. Friend would press the pie* hog of this petition, to let the people of Inland Mew flat they bed some friends in that house. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL hoped that there was no member in that house who wee Dot a friend to Ireland. If there was opposition to the printing of this petition, it did. not arise from hostility to Ireland, but from a done tepees vent discord and irritation in that country. He regretted that the member for Kerry should have used strong languor on this occeskut. Mr. HUME wished to know whet was to be if 17 men were to be ensuland without Inquiry house? (Cries of No. no.) Yes,•olteertred Mr. Home. they were murdered without the authority of law, yet net the hair of a man's head was seeleseed on saxes% of it. if judge was refustd to the frieisis of the tutrdred at hum, wee it not fit that they shosid appeal to that heave When they d:d appeal was it dt to reject their petition ? Alf. CRAMPTON would oppose the _prising of the petition, became it might excise a prejudice stat the person who was to be tried. He never would be a party to a charge against the whole body of the yeomanry et Ire. hod, on 'count of the alleged miseoWuct of a small port of that body. The house then divided, when there appeared, For the printing of the Poetise Against It Majmity for Ministers • 8r11.0.10 Lord . PA,LMERSTON requested of his homy/able friend, SW R. Vyvyan. to postpone his modem respecting 411141Zie.kle bed received oolontitnications th is day from the - ermosticing that !he Leg of the Netherlands •had omessoted to withdam his mops from lielgietn, in caw .orlaseest of which the aegoeintism were renewed. Undue •geek dreanistasees. be hoped that his honoutable fikad wail withdraw his soodoo. /is R. VIVRA?' osomiring that. under such dram. sionme, mash intonmedmice might seise from discussing the •sembjeci, he IremM pintros his motion until this Ly n = heping that be Os aseedos on account would be alfiltorso ,a troops hides hem !withdraws hem Belgium. Lind STORMONT baring fehdisiggobted lithe mum parasol by his hosiousable Mond, pw gala that be would VIM tomorrow for ands porn rapoldoi Mr. CIROCiII Mahal a boom lam the lad at' elm slum a a law. a amid * llan of August, from she was a t llaibbsda t wl Ida 1 1 , lad PAI.IIIIIIIITON htlhavad dam It sorbed his II ;',. bk. (1111.01111111 did not moor the letter otthe lot . if Aisp best the lota or *add, Web bid bees 'atemnserod gi FBI the rims ••••• Lord PALM BESTOW observed that the letter in goes• don was handed to him on FddtrY IR Saturdq. Mr. CRORER hoped the noble lord would be able to say to-morrow whether lie received it on Friday or tiatarday. VYVYAN Imagined of his noble Mend, Lord 'torment, to ponyposta motion until Thursday next, and be (8h R.) would it forward. Lord STORMONT conceived the subject to be of such an urgent nature, that he amid tiot postpone it. To a question by Mr. Hun?, Mr. LA MB replied that, the affray width took place between the people and the military at Bolton, was under investigation. The Marquis of CHANDOS begged to ask the Noble Lord (Palmeratcm,) whether the French troops were in Blalines Lord PAI.M RESTON hoped the Noble Marquis would not expect of him to answer nth a question. The Marquis of CH AN DOS conceived that, as a Mem ber of that Hone, he had a right to put such a question. and receive irfotanition on the subject. Lord PA LMERSTON teplied that some of the French troops were at Malines. Laid ELIOT asked if it was true that the King of the Belgians had written to the King of the French, requesting hint not to send troops to Belgium, and that the latter re plied that he could not accede to the proposition. Lord PA LM RESTON complained of being called upon to answer such questions, under existing circumstances. The subject here drop ped. Mi. DUNCO3IBE, agreeably to his notice, rose to move for papers connected with the late affair of a reprieve having been for several days withheld from a criminal at Herefonl. The hon. meeker said ho had in his possession allegations upon affidavits, and counter statements offered to be proved upon oath. Amidst such conflicting testimony be did not know what to believe, but he had no interest whatever in the matter beyond tracing the blame to its proper moire. He concluded with moving foe the production of the correspon dence between the Secretary of the Home Department. and the High Sheriffof the co yof Hereford. the Under She riff, 'the Cis:pieta, the Howler, or any other party connected with the reprieve which bad been sent to Richard Sterne on the 2Sth of July last. Sir H. II ARDING F. seconded the motion, but with a very different view from that of the lion. member. The con duct of the Under-Sheriff had beer. moat humane : on learn ing that the judge entertained doubts as to the justice of the verdict, be despatched his confidential clerk to collect infor. mation ; the confidential clerk repaired with the information en collected to the judge, who was then at Chebnsford, and the latter granted a reprieve: the clerk, on receiving it, ft paired diteet to the prison, where heaaked for Mr. Wilson, the gaoler. The latter being ill, he told the turnkey to inform the prisoner that there was a reprieve, and that he was now on his way with it to the sheriff. The gaoler being so told by the turnkey, made the communication to the chaplain next morning, wile, on the same morning,infoemed Samuel Sterne of his reprieve; Samuel Sterne was informed of his reprieve on the Thursday morning. The under-sheriff had been at much pain*, and at much expense, in collecting the information which led to the reprieve. He (Sir H. H.) had teed the de. positions of the under-sheriff, turnkey, tie. and considered 'the under.sheriff's case quite plain and clear. Mr. LAM B could not see what parliamentary proceeding could be founded on the production of the papers moved for. The respite was perhaps not communicated with quite enough of solemnity to the turnkey on the Wednesday. Butt he Under-Shniff had taken the utmost care in collecting infor mation for the purpose of a reprieve; and es to the prisoner having incurred anxiety by reason of say delay, the assertion was unfounded. He considered the Chaplain a most hu. mane man. After a few words from an Hon. Mestere, Mr. Herr. Sir H. HAIRDIVOR and Lord Howicn, lit. DU NCONI BE withdrew his motion. Sir H. Fi ARDINGE assented to the withdrawal of the motion, it being utderstood that no imputation rested on the Under-Sherif. Isom derived free swiss, Brat Ms tear. (Hear.) The ev=to of sallynehila a.. noddle ditolokhod by the di. At resent die *wall essolidates weld be only gralemeet of krge MEV. No weal obeene, with re open to erentisdraheves, that &skill formed that their de& ekes weskit use In vojected by the crown. (Hear.) The annisorm made a menial alteration in tabbill, as it bad been apron* of by the country. ( Hear, War.) Mr.' LA NOT( )N..was not talkie. Mr. DAIILIiNIT supported Ministers. Mr. Canis and an Hon. Minis were for dividing the counties. Sir R. PEEL said esseleing arguments presented them selves to him. On the on hood, he deprecated the destrue ties of their:fog-reserved unity et the counties (bear.) He spreheadoil the proposed divisions would heat a pendent Ow thedepolmootal divides eilloglool (hear.) He appre hoard that dislike feeling would be substituted to the county feeling sonment the knobitants. He regretted that the division should be madeethensise than by the authority of the house. If a matter of ton mo th detail for the house, why nee cod& it to a commutes. en the laboum of which the belie mold pronounce a final judgment !—AU the nem =fees, with Nero* to population, tandem, ke. were the House. 'The dividing a twenty-five Kopek etionties was a vast, an enormous inst. to be collided nosy holy of individuals, or to say gentontent. On the other head, be concurred with the Noble lard, that the division ut the counties would lacrosse the influence, the his soilligi.l timate influence of the aristenicy. He rejsked to bear the' noble lord declare that he did not wish to destroy entirely that influence. This wagon overpowered the arguments en the other side. He would propose a plan which might so persede in great part the necessity of commissioners. It would be to prevent any property within the borough die. trios from having influence in the county. Let the Os. freeholders, for Instance, within the borough districts, vote fur the borough instead of the county. This would he a greet simplification, and would supersede, in a great mission the necessity of commissioners. He would vote with Go vernment. After a few words from Mr. Oneoan, Sir R. Poss., and Sir J. Wnovirresxv, Col. DA VIES said he would vote against the division it the counties, because he considered it would increase the aristocratic influence, which the bill in other respects but toe much promoted. Mr. HODGES and Mr. C. WYNN were for dividing the counties. Sir G. MURRAY considered the division would lead to the departmental division of England, when the Government fell into ether hands. Mr. LUMLEY was inaudible. After a few words from Mr. LITTLETON, Mr. BRISCOE, and Mr. BENNETT, Sir C. WETHERELL deprecated the appointment of ir responsible commissioners. He could not agree with his right boo. friend the Member for Tamworth, that a slight acquisition of influence to the aristocracy should outweigh the destruction of the unity of the counties, and the com mitting of such high powers as those proposed to irresponsible Akers. It was not stated in the bill on what priacipl• the division was to reacted. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said the Hon. Gentleman as. enuied that the Cennaksioners would act ikon blunder and senoras. It was in anticipation of such a difficulty that it was determined that the division should be made by Com. mission's, whose decision should, if necessary, be revised by Parliament. Though the division might in some few kermess give a preponderance in the election, in general the shales would be more free by having the counties divided. He thought it desirable that county Members should ea moth as rent& be permanent, and that was most likely to beamed by having two Members instead elfin& Such deadens would else be attended with less expense. Colonel Si BTHORPE said he had nowt the least te lecom to declare that be should oppose the bill through thick and thin—((A laugh.) Mr. O'CONNELL said be perfectly agreed with the member for Kent, that the bill had given grim atillifeekso to the people of England. Schedule A had OM aim is greatest pleasure, far the sriewasty_bed a snag Mimi la returning members to that house whith al dismiolliser genends, and admire* and bishirps, so disk fun eiltilikli. moot. (Hear.) They had been labonliv in vain l e lfgz were only to get rid of one specks of se e ines tote another . Upon this principle. be th ought ens pot at the bill esunteracted the other ; end be why Ante QM cherished the democratic principle to which Ke.sti soil its grains% should oppose the division ef condos SO thought there would never be very tree eked= till *57 had vote by ballet ; but the best substitute was a mosoas caa. @thusly/. Ler/ MILTON .lal4 be most vote for the clans.— There were few counties in which the smallest divides would contain less then 1110,015 inhabitants, sod there was few wends la England in which they could be influstad by say IndividuL—(Hear, hear.) Sir. HUNT thought it weld sake very Wig Memo whether Me counties were divided or nes. He thought hie Majesties Ministers ought not to be left in the lu.ch on this question. which might defeat the whole Bill. He bored he ld live to see cantles divided into departments. He would get his Majesty's Ministers out of great dificuky re. erecting theme& of making out the alleles. Let comity meetings be called. and three honorable men be fleeted to divide the counties according to the wishes of the people. He celled en all these who wished the Bill to pass. to vim with his Mainty's Milliners on this treaties Mr. GOULBURN said, the (lanky of the realm arose from the aroma of the house of the man= la which the division of counties should be Innis He. however. should supped the divides of commies, reaenhqt to biosself the tkil of examining the manner in which it should be ea into ant. Lord STANLEY said, be had anxiously waked to hear any arguments that could justify hint to himself foe voting for the present clause, and was sorry to say he bed not hear d say. He must there fore oppose the abase. lie. BLANI RE said the division of counties would ban a most injurious effect on the indepandeace a Cumberlead. The Committee then divided-- Whew there appeaved for the angled clause— 241 For the satindurent.. . . Majorhy la favour at Ministers.— » lOU The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and asked leave to sit nabs skis day: • The wheraders of the day win then disposed ot; and the House Adjourned at Two ecLocz. At a meeting of the inhabitants of St.f3sorge the Martyr on Monday, Mr. Arrowsmith in the chair, it was resolved among oth•fthitsp,tlist we asomdinr. ing, not from • superabundance of popeladea, bet from a superabundance of legislation. What nil Col. Torrsns, Messrs. Malthus, Sewing, Bentham, /re. say to this ? The decision on the Dublin election is regarded by thi Irish interest as one of the blunders of Lord Althorp. The first committee was set aside on a mere technical question by the vote of mi.- Dieters, and a second chosen whose decision was et once anticipated. Two nand and able saqssimm are thus last to the House, mod Dublin, alter one of the severest struggles ever known, aid ups. , a second time to exert an the ener re of its patriotism, or to be misrepresented. can however be no doubt but recent events have I greatly strengthened the O'Connell interest in all pirti of Ireland, and Dublin we should hope vriU be consistent. The exemptions from the elseseed taxes pore that dome are in the three kingdoms about 400,000 farms dhlithrent sizes, to about 60 millions acres of addition land, averaging 126 acres to farm. If then by assesonteme popertiened to sire the number were increased a fourth this pier and a hawk ant year. the average would still be 83 eerie; lant.we should thereby provide an We pendent comfortable mode et living for 200,000 families, now slitting, or at their wit's =bin towns ; and these empoying 400,000 Milken diesisitti FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. PARIS EXPRESS.-THIS DAY. (From our own Correspondent.) PARIS, Aug. 10. Sir —A telegraphic dispatch reached Paris last night, stating that the French =had entered Mons. Very many rumours are respecting an order to suspend the march of the French troops, and they have canoed much dissatisfaction, since it was stated that it was in consequenc e of the interference of England. Intelligence has niched Paris to-day, that freed' troubles have taken place in Italy ; and that on many points, the Pontifical troops have been obliged to make hasty retreats. The Augsburg Casette of the sth states, that on the 30th of July. official accounts had reached Vienna, that Gen. "hunger, after having escaped the watchfolnes of the Polish Generals, bad by skilful manoeuvre crossed the Vistula with all his corps, at Sake, and that his advanced posts were at Undoes. it is said that Marshal Paskewitsch is only waiting for corps of Gen. Tolstoi, who has not yet reached Ostrolenka, and that he then proposed to push forward with the whole of his forces to wards Warsaw. The latest news here from Warsas is down to the 25th of July. The Rsursians at that time were sending their advanced guard from Nissawa into the district of Konin ; but the Landsturm were con. tinually harrusing them. The Russian army, after crossing at Neisawa, sent four regiments of cavalry to a post between Kowal and Lublin. Eight thousand have occupied the ground between Brresr- Kryavier ; a second column is marching towards Sinsewo ; and General Turno has arrived at Plowsk with the corps of General Genstenzweig. Th ose accounts state, however, that General Rudiger has detached a part of his army for Podolia, and has passed the Wieprs. A corps of Russian troops advanced, on the 28th, as far as Prissen, and the Government chests were transferred from that town to Esenatochen. All the inhabitants had left their houses. A private letter from Warsaw, dated July 24, is said to have been received at Paris this day, which announces that the advanced posts of the Russian army are approaching Warsaw. On th e 20th, the number of 'persons working at the forti fication amounted to 20,000. —lt appears that the Grand Duke Michael has left the army to re turn to Petersburgh. Rumours from Wanaw,which are not altogether credited, state that the conduct of General Skraynecki was suspected , and that in con sequence the Chamber resentatives had a debate respecting it. He issaid to have been accused by four Generals. Suspicions of this kind, whether true or false, are very disheartening and unfavour able, in the present critical situation of Poland. Among other rumours current here this day, there is one that Don Miguel has arrived at Brest in a French frigate. I forward the journals, and remain yours do. J. L. P.S. I direct your attention to the followinr extract from the Constitationnel Our position with regard to Belgians is compli cated in a strange manner. Pressed by an unfore- seen attack of the Dutch, Leopold was thrown up into the arms of France, and had solicited succoon from Louis Philippe. In consequence of that de mand, 50,000 men marched upon the side of the frontiers, and the intervention of our diplomacy u Antwerp saved that city from the flames, and de. ranged the strategic combinations of the Prince of Oinage. At the same time, the simple report of NI arrival compressed the party of Viilliam, and imeased a buudred-fold the enthusiasm of the *riots. In this mate of things, and at the ma meet when he would have crossed the frontier, Marshal Gerard reseived all at once a despatrii from the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Leopold. Abe many compliments to Francs, and tbe rals. the Minister invited him to defer his entry until the moment when the Mt- Minister of War of Belgium could be put in report .With him, a necessary condition before penetrating upon the territory. The first result of this OUPPO4I was to suspend the march of our troops ; after which the Marshal sent a courier to our government. — This adjournment, vaguely known yesterday in Paris, produced the wont effect upon opinion.— The report ran, that terrified to see us occupy, m *Oise, a country which was a long time French, the British government had made representations to Leopold. Whatever may have been the maim which directed the Belgian Cabinet, it is, never thiless, certain, that it demanded of the French army to suspend its march for a moment. We learn, in a positive manner, that the French army his entered. Le Temps says of the proposed address, com municated in the Sitting of the Chambers, and the dimities t " We will prejudge nothing upon the diumpaion. This discussion will take a new degree of importance from the success of the Presidsot of the Council, which uncovers the Ministerial system, and which presents more plainly the thought which presided at the drawing q the Preach I discourse from the throne. The reading of the address was coldly received ; the speech of the President *sifted neither murmurs nor sywr. The speech of M. niers, Iseirmsesured auk' ing all chords vibrate, was bettoiundew4o,ll the Chamber. It did not display greet Mew at mar, and the fear of the Propaganda gained IWIPAY." 7 ' DUTCH PAMIRS. Tea HAMM—Second Chamber of the Stun Gauen', Aug. 9.—An address to the Xing haring been unanimously agreed to, after a few ahem Boer ; and having mat to the fret Cbscaber, s message wee received from that Chamber, r Mose l oiag-1. 'rhat it had not to the project d errning ibs • notes, and bad tbere' ui greed. fire re )11 quested his • to take it iota fur th er esneiderstios. 2. it wood t o the project of law respecting the voluntary mod forced loan, 0 4 to the address to be promoted . to the King by th e Stases General, is wawa 10 the cosamseiratios i snide by his Excellency the. Minister for Foreifs Albin is the sitting of the fhb inst. Th. C° 6lBlll , anointed to resent the address .10 the Mug waited o his Mojosty he that puss. roe, at ens o'clock, and was moss periomly rt mild , Obirj rit ellpellaCed. drat the day after * I ) Mere particular freiil ica Vine kande to the Chamber, fo' J his Measity could Dot new ester iss '1,411.44m, doubt, to the mbar° scroax COMMITTEE. Led ALTHORi,i;iloWni that tieboose reecolv Itself hto oscomittee, gave node*, that he should move that the house meet on floturday next at twelve o'clock. It ems hie Intention that the boom on that day should sit hem twelve to six. Ain a few words from Mr. ()outburst, Sir H. Hardinge, Ss S Sugden, Lord Althorp, and Mr. Wynn, the house went into coounittee en the English Reform &IL The CHAIRMAN read a few words of clause 11. enact ing that the osneties in schedule O be divided into (blank) div Wons, and seems Ow mambas, when Mr. oouLsualf rase, and asked on what principle the division of the osublibi would proceed Lord J. RIISORI.I.—On the principles of population and event, to that the amount of square miles and of po pulation in one division of a county be, se nearly as possible, equal to that in the other division of the county. There might be awe of exception; for instance It might be pre. flyable or include a hundred a other disti n ct thMtv, M Igo, in one of the divisions. to dividing it. and, for the sake of perfect equality of population and extent, including one port In env division. sad the other part in the other. He intended introducing words into the douse to the above erect. Sir R. bUGDEN—The words should be introduced be. fee we proceed to deliberate en the chase. Lord ALTHORP.—It Is sufficknt that my noble friend should have rated the principles on which the divisions are to take place. Mr. OOULBURN said a county could not in many cues be divided accurately as to both principles at once. Lord J. RUSSELL --The Commirdoesers will be directed to have reference generally to both principles, without adhering strictly to either. They will take the two principles into considerrion in the woo mBOllll as the taxation and extent of Scotland were generally considered, compared to England, when the number vi her represents. dves was determined. After a few words Horn Mr. Wirwn. Mr. Ditusseoe, sad Lord .I. Resew., which. were not beard, Sir E. SUODEN said the Committee could net give s deliberative judgement on the propriety of Mei& lag the counties until the amount of constituency which the new borough system would withdraw from the caustics was ascertained. In many counties, in Dur bin), for instance, such was the amount of constituency 'detracted by the boroughs. that nothing was left for Om county, as the noble lord wen knew. They must in. meditate the amount of the county constituency mart the news stem, before they divided It. He objected M tosser nisi Bees being appointed to make the divides& they had divi4.tl the counties, they would mew the= of their labours to the Crown, who might miles media ft. lie Minted to ministers having Am He pew ar dl. tiding. Or not dividing, any par t i s nk wfeldgt. The Porn of deciding the division of twenty-five DS* mantles was too great a power to be conceded to any government. (Best.' heir.) The eommisteionera should, at Mast, salads theist. items mode by them Jetta, approbation et shillala (Itaa) The CHAIRMAN then read the eistnav ad pot the issestion, that the blank before he word .4 dNWae r welliteld 5s filled up by the word 6. two." Mr. H. HUGHES could prove to the haft Ma solif i the f 3 counties .4n question might be so &Med as Iniialaj garb(Me ttrothisions s Atenination aloft.. The . ausinunicationi received by him dim away pats eriros r country had fated such a conviislen In Me yawl ea the m& ject, that he would prefer peseemMll lllf losslllihs A ttilik • to the adoption of the paten. divides,. elk, jades to these divielsaw wee she ummadastional meet of commiesienets, whom laltstai the Crows weak according to the wording of the Mks he understood it, have the power of rejecting. He ceendised that the belies would be the only escape epee te the wow bas the OP,' pteedou of their landlords, if the division into distaste min odeptad. He should move, that the weeds in the gleam l the divieing should be left out. (Hem.) a tt g ALTHORP.—This, undoubtedly, was sow of the mm Important pasts of the Bill, end lose to whisk the at leaded el the whole country had been said. 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