Star. — London, England, 1817-03-27 00:00:00

PAREMMEATARr PROCEEDitykS. HOUIE OF LORDS, MARCH .24. • The House proceeded hi Appeale. The Each , quit- Bil:s and the Naval Smres . l3lll,'were erti a third time and passed. . The Exchequer Coon Bill petard ftworigh-a Committee and was reported air:.. in anointment. The Lord (Aimeellor then ee. ! •,,t a.. ale arienenn whidi wire weed w. Adpurned till to mu - roll' (this day,)• • • • • nott.i}: Olt ccimmoNs. Mr. C int W es •1•..-.1 a pt tl•irn frum Woodhrldre. praying fur 601111 C altars! ism in the Poor Laws. Ordered to lb. referred re the Colllll.l.ti e that staled.. Mr. AP 01 I i• 2 r,etiteti some Papery formerly moved fat by Mr Brunet, reilering , the itverai appointments which Mr. i ieri les had held under the Crown, sai-h the dates of thew appoirthuhtN, and d e sawiet connected tacit. 'the Papers were or2er lito be roved.. Mr CA •VhR I pos.prined a !no. len of 1.1. reapectilkg frau' hi 4a t twos, tilt We•tresaay. the 16th of April. • MIN NIN NIEW CITY GA L. JAMESSr SHA IV:unwed !hit Re: mita the London New City Gaol 1111 oe brought . .The SPEA %F. it here Mt himself c died . to say a mord or two on the Report, which was extvemely prolix in every po:nt of view, sicelt4ig being kr, out that could poi.%ihly he introduced. He had umervtd, that the L.tw (3.licer of the City thought t! some indulgence should ,hewn to the City, as had been done to some other places. It was very true that such indulgence' had been sheyin, hot t h e House slonli ennui& r die peculiar circumstance. which led them to grant this indulgence. The House were always disposed to he very indulgent in cases wh-re it was ,hewn to their satitfactioa, that the parties had done tvtry thing to come in proper time, but lia4 been prevented by unforeseen circumstances, Inch as the 'sickness of the agent in the cause, the lost of a letter, or such like. They were equally indulgent where tircumstb.nces happened, such as the arrival of a • party from abroad, the falling of a bridge, acc. but in this there were no such exce.es to plead indulgence. The Law Officer of the City (the Remembrancer) says. he had got no orders to proceed till February. This was probably the case, but the House had to , remember,•that he was the agent of the - Committee of Improvements, who two years ago were impressed with the idea that they roust apply to Parliament. This, therelote, altered the situation of the. City, and gave them no claim to indulgence. Sit 'JAMES SIIAW bowed with submission to the Authority of the Chair, and begged leave to withdraw his motion, pledging himself to bring it on again nest , • b.SSit Sir JAMES GRAHAM would oppote the mea sure in every stage, wilt:never it should ea:me on, and begged it to be understood and pobi , c)y known, that toe City of London meant to tax all the C..unties near the Th,a-ties. On this ground he should deci dedly oppote it in every point . After a rev' w ord. from Alderman Armes, Home SUMNEU, anti E. SMITH, the motion was withdrawn. NAVAL oFPICIIHS PAY BILL. The Naval Officers' Pay Bill went through the Committee. was read a second time, and ordered to be read a third time to-morroir. Me. CALC RA F could not help being astonished at the hurried manner in which this Bill was going through thr. House, and suggested-that it might be profitable and useful task for the Junior Lords at tending the Admiralty Academy (as that Board was ; le4* called) to pay some attention to its Clauses. The young Lords were placed on the Board as a means of .tiding them for future Statesmen, and surely a Bill like Ore present would do them good—(fieer,hear.) • • • - • • aCDITIOUS )4EkTttaGe BILL. • A Message from the Lords stated that their Lord _ Alps had agreed to the Bill with some Amendments, to which they requested the concurrence of the House. • Mr,' B. BATHURST having intend that these • Ansendments be taken into tonsidiration tomorrow, Mr. BROUGHAM said it . was impossible he • could know regularly what the AMendments were, but he was persuaded they would occasion consider able discussion. The proper plan would hi to post . pone all that discussion till after the holidays ; and Ire, was yet to learn where the necessity existed for s pressing this measure so hurriedly. • • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER eotildnot see any thing more inconvenient than post . poning the measure, and he should therefore bring it to-morrow. CURWEN declared he had never witnessed a,itsortfoppressire measure in'his life than the one now proposed, and which oppression had been consi derably increased by the Amendments it had under gone. Respect for a much and justly esteemed Member, whose valuable and unwearied seLvices had entitled him to the warmest gratitude of the Houses, , an&yrdlin, it was well known, could not at. to e d %Altn exposing himself to serious injury, should lead his Majesty's Ministers to postpone the measure. This consideration, anal the warm affection_ every one Bruit feel for tlisit•Right Hon. Gentleman, should in. • dlleeits postponement; and he would further add, Cie cape:fewer of every day *hewed there was less andlesurtqesiity• for this dreadful measure being riecigitfitett.. One Amendment would excite, he knew, ma th irscu,sion, viz. that which gagged his Ziajesty"•s sul;jects within a certain dis'ance of the Parti•fneut . House. The House, as • House, was respectabh, but it would certainly lose al: respect it id lint .the cenfidencc at the people. • li.r r..GRAHAM differed in every rout from his Honourable Clirague, and decidedly thong:it the only•'way to save the country was by such provi-' slims ait the piesent. He knew this 8.11 was anxiously repotted- by every g.od, and loyal, and sober minded subject:in - de kingdom (Laughterf Avedre 0 quoition). Mr. BROUGHAM wished to ask the Right Hi.n. Gentlemin if he had any objection to the Bill and its A•nenilinents ben printed . The. CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER :laid; the Ball was already printed, but he would by sti means object to the Aniendments being printed. Mi. BROUGHAM—Then the House m.iy see ' t h ere i s nu necosity for this measure being so hurried firough the House, for the R;glit Hon. Gentleman is iviog agreed to the Amendments being printed, I ask'how it is possible that we can dispassionately at 'mei to shear,. having no probability of seeing them ~rftrre 4411-put lour or five O'clock—(Bear, hea r )? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHLQUER —.l shall take care'.drat the Amendments be early early. hasided to Members. ' ARCHIBALD HAMILTON moved for leave to bring us a Bill to repeal the Act of the 54th I of the tin, relative to the drawback on paper. allowed t 0 'the Scottish Universities, in artier to put ,thim on an dual footing with the English Uui vtrsi:irs. • Mr. LUSHENGTON hoped this motion wonld he withdrAwn; as there existed every disposition to wend to the - After some conversation respectine the clones of the Bill, and the opinion of the LAW Officers in Set 4- theist,. by . Mr. FINLAY,: Mr. Root, Mr. PLUNKS?, &c.— • Mr. BROUGHAM wished, that when Lis Ms jestes Ministers knew the important duties of the Lord Advocate and Solicitor-General of Scotland, and how greatly their powers exceeded thn.e of t'u• Attorney-General and Solicitor-General in England, they would till those situ scions with persons eompe. tent to discharge their duties. He did not believe that•tha opii.inn they had given on the ll•il woulJ be confirmed _by the ',pinion ni the Law ()dicers hese. The mori•m was then withdrawn. The SPEAKER • stated, that with leave of the Won he should butyl& to its consideration the adootion, as he had last night noticed, of some mole convenient and expeditions mode of publishing and 4e.ivering to the Membets the Printed Votes. Since the reign of Charles 11. %%hen in the year 1680 the printing of its Votes was first established, the duty of superintending their publication was vested in the Speaker for the time beine. He, however, should nut feel himself warranted in any deviation horn the established usage, without having the previous cane lion of that Wow— (Hear, Hear). Since (he acres. lion of his present Majesty until the period of the Union, the business of that House had increased threefold. From the Union to the present time that increase was fivefold. Front this consideration he had directed his attention to Ascertain whether or not the publication of the Votes and of the Journals might not be effected in sonic more compressed form, so as to have their delivery take place at a much earlier period than was possible under the present system, and at a seduced expense in the charge of printing—(Hear, hear)—which now amounted to some thousands. He was now satisfied that the printed votes under the new arrangement could be delivered the morning aim- the decision, and that they might also contain the Orders of the Day, the Notices, and the second readings of Private The consequence of the arrangement in the Votes would give such an accession of assistance in the preparation of the Printed Journals, that in their new form they would be also ready for delivery a week after the termination of the Session, and not, akat present, continue so long delayed. If the proposition should 'Leo the sanction of the Select Committee,to which it might be deemed Advisable to refer it, be should submit the propriety of a speedy decision, in order that 'such exertions might be made during the recess, as would allow the new arrangement to be tried as an experiment during' the residue of the Session—(Near,.hear; hear). • The CHANCELLOR of .the EXCHEQUER said, that after the clear statement of ' the Chair— (Hear, hear) —he should merely move for the ap pointment of a Select Committee, to consider of a mote convenient and expeditions mode of pieparing and printing the Voter of the House of Commons.— Ordered. . • The tollowiwg Memberi compose the Committee : The CMANZELLOR of Lord .LoscoLLro, the Erin [doz', • •Lord•MiL•roo, • M. 13ATw01$T 1 ' • sir JAMES GIIAMAM, Mr. Rost, I Mr. Prot, Mr. Low tl, Sir Giulio' HILL, Sir ANS MIA PICIOVTT, Mr. WILLIAM DvNDAI, Mr. WILLIAMS WYMM, Mr. 14.911A1t SIPAISSR, Mr. DICKINSON, Mr. CARTIPIsIGUT, Mr. Asauctoorsr, Mr. CALCIAI r, Sir MATTHEW RIDLIT, SW WILLIAM CURTIS, MI. DANCES. Mr. BROW:SEN. • To meet to-morrow (this day). • ' The House having resolved itself lobo a Committee on the Salt Law,. • Mr. LUSHINGTON moved that it was expe dient to amend the Salt Lsws—that Rock and Crus ed Salt be exported, du►y free, for the use of the Filheties in Newfoundland— that a duty of six pence per bushel be imposed on the importation of Foreign Salt. Alter some conversation from Mr. GI [AMT. Mr. Rom Mr. DovauPost, General GASCOYNC, and Mr. CALCKAIT, who expressed no opinion on the Clauses, but thought they ought to be referred to a Committee up stairs, at the same time that he assured the House,, their adoption could not interfere with his intended motion on the subject, the Resolutions were agreed to, the Report brought up, and leave was given to bring in the Bill. Mr. GORDON presented a Petition from Josami SPRAbos, a cattier to the butchers of St. James's market, praying compensation for the injury he had sustained by the pulling down of that Market, and the erection of the New Street. Mr. HUSKISSON denied that the Petitioner's, case came within the claims of compensation. The Petition was then brought up, and ordered to lien the Table. • • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER presented, pursuant to the Order of-the House, the Copy of a Dis Patch from Lord Castlereagh to Tho• mac Sydenham, Esq. late Envoy at Lisbon. On the Motion of Mr. CANNING, it was order ed, that an Address be presented to the Prince R e . gent, fur the production of Copies of any • Letters front Thomas Sydenham to be recalled from Lisbon. The The committal of the Window Exemption Bill was postponed until to-roorruw. Lord LASCELLES wished to know. whether mil pkijection would be made to a Clause in the Window Liemption Bill, allowing people to sleep .in Ware houses without liability•to the Duties • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wished to delay giving an answer until 'be had snore• fully considered the subject.. On the Order of the Day 'for the further considera tion of the Report if the Land Revenue Bill, -• • Mr. BARNETT expressed his hope that the lur ther proceeding of the Bill should be deferred' until atter the Recess. If this new negotiation with the ' Bank of England was allowed by Parliament, he would next expect to see the coffers of that Corpo ration opened for a Loan ou the whole mortgaged Crown Lands. • Mr. HUSILISSON could see no grounds for de laying the mea►ure. It was neg a Mortgage, but a bimplc Loan, secured on the ,L4nd &venue.... There was no eonireyanee eE tke Property to the ILA of Er.glard. Mr. Caimans and Mr. 11/11114ERSLIY both ob jected to the negotiation with the Bank altogether In ieterring to the whok connection of the Bank with the Governlnent, Mr. Grenfell said. to use the language of his lamented Friend, Mr. Horner, that it exhibited the most profligate prolusior, oil the one part, and the greatest rapacity on the other. The Lie Annuity Amendment Bill was read a first time, and a second reading fixed for Monday fortnight. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, that unless some public business thould in tertete, it was his intention to move on Friday, that the House on its rising should adjourn to Mon day fortnight. Mr. BROUGHAM wished to know whether the Resolution respecting Lotteries was to be .pospcned till atter the recess The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER answered, that the order for resolving into a Corn-; mitts* of Way, and Means, in which Committee the Resolution relative to the Lottery was to be discussed, ;Cares the intention to postpone until Monday fort night. At the same time, he took the opportunity of stating, that the charge mule against the Commis sioners of the Lottely for receiving entertainments from the Contractors, was nut at an justified by she fact. No such elitertairments took place, Mr. BROUGHAM, in the ab,ei ce of . hi; Trlc nourable Friend ( Mr. LYTTLET 4x). (It-elated himself satisfied, either that the fact stated h} !us H , n. amble Friend seas correct, or that he had tees ived such in formation as justified his maklng the ttaternent. The Orders of the I.).iy being disposed of, the House adjourned. 11.1,V111111G11 MAIL. BERLIN, MARCH 11. The Council of State will be opened at the end of this month, and the regulations published; the most distinguished men are appointed to it. All the chief Presidents are already summoned, and are to be here by the 24th of this month, in order to attend the de liberations of the Council of State on the intended law of taxation and the entirely. new system of taxes which is going to be introduced. It is said, that the number of the Members of the Council of State will amount to 60. The Royal Princess and the Ministers are members of it. When the King is abseiit the Prince Chancellor cf State presider. Exchange on London, March 14 and 18% —35 0- 35 2-35 3-35 5. nvhiviM4 STAR. . , JP.NDON. THURSDAY, MARCH 27, 1817. PRICE OF S I'OCKS THIS DAY AT TWELVE ('CLOCK Reduced s.%nt—Cons. money, 7W}—foe Ace. 700 4 per Cent. shut—S per Cent. Navy, VSif Eaehequer B,lla 4v. 12s. fir bowl* 96 pr. POOR RATES.' • The remarks which we have offered on this sub- I ject Lave caused Magistrates in different place', and others, who have hadopportunities of observing the 'facts, to furnish us with some useful information on topics more intimately connected with this question, than we could have suspected. . indeed, but for the high respectability of the individuals, and the impos sibility of their being misintotmed the• facts they have coMmunicated, wt could nor th'st such frauJ and iniquiret :existed in any part of die British Empire. 'lle ways in which labourers are defrauded of their wages, and • consequently com pelled to seek relief' frcm the Poor Rates; appear to be innumerable. In addition to the facts already laid before our Readers, respecting the regular sys tem by which in many parishes, the workmen of far:, mers and manufacturers are .p.id.a large portion of their fair wages for labour out of these R•ttes, we have now to state, that the labourers eniployed in many tin, copper, and lead mines . ; collieries, quar ries, manufactories, and wh ere considerable con nuts have bete entered into, are often robbed of their wages by the iniquitous practice of obliging them to purchase 'at particular shops, (in which, 1 1 without doubt, the principals are interested,) not merely what they have occasion • for, but clothing and other articles, which they do not want, and at the most exorbitant price, so as even to reduce the pound sterling to Ile. or 12s. They are thus kept alwa:is necessitous, and often find them. selves in debt when they are discharged; not by any correct account rendered, for in some instanc, s that could be.uktned, elgy aver: receive any from the IholunanD but Merely fais..assertiou as to the balance. The con 'egotisee is, an immediate application to their parishes. for relief. Such a -system is most , injorious ; and the Poontratts are in•cousequence considerably increased.; whereasif'everi man so employed received the wages earned and, justly dile to him, at the end of each i 'reek, in the current money of the realm, he coiila • I maintain his family respeftablY.'and intProvea par: of his earnings fur his and then fuiute rondos t. • The Legislature . svisely.tnacted that those em— illoyed in'tte woollen Manufactory should •regoLcrl) receive Alt& leages, ;nef,ri Bill is now . pending Parliament toAdace the Collieries on the same foot. ing. . It , is ffit!ch to be wished that' this Bill•miy be, and . that it-oiay,.ci total's) framed to operateigenerally, such restricti v e will in future effeetualLy prevent.shiOesent.eompulsory expesiditureof •so titit the labourer neither diredYnorindirectl y may. be prevented ftom layistg..out his pound to the best adfatitigt:' t . The system of ; the Poor Laws, taken as .2 whole, is so intricate, and its' ramifications So widely ;ex tended, as almost to deter from any at tempt directly to ameliorate or improve it: • But this labour might i •be greatly lightened--and it is ss ith.this view she Ochs 1 our observations bti the public—by direct Vinreasts: laws respecting those abuse, and robberies, w tinutely send their •ictims to the Par'sh W •ikhth. for relief. The root Rates form, beyond all question, branch f the public imposts which has been the me e t scand.th)usly misapplied and perverted—they am , ont upon the average to 20; per cent. or more than 1•4!h of the while gross rental of England and Wales toge ther. Their sum exceeds 8 millions sterling; atid:the pabpers of all descriptions. uhn are suffered topar take of them, bear almost the same proportion to the total number of ;^ habitants that the Poor Rates • bear to the aggregate rent of lane. This immense revenurt, ;IA ice as Feat as that which is arm betnweti ',pun the Marine of the British Zni pire, has been for years administered by a class of functionaries, fri quently the •cry refuse of the Pa. fishes wherein they are telerased. Bad laws may, be mitigated by a wi.e and scrupulous AdmintstratiOn; but laws in their nature oppressive and jams!, be. come utterly insupportable in the hands of thaw whose ignorance disqualifies them from fully under. standing, and whose narrow and sordid habits render them incapable of feeling, the impt•rtanei and deli cacy of their task. No plan for the permanent relartn of tlte•poor laws can ev..r prosper, which does nut Legin v ith a purification of tlleithelu tribe of Over tects.—wltich does not esps,ialle haiiish the buyers and sellers, and luw intriguers,. frcrrs this terrile of public charity. is reform wanted ? Vcs -in the managinscrt of Parish funds of every detetiption. Ce• national affairs been under as bad mart...;--nent as cur i'oor Rates, speaking generally, we must long tre now hare been a people ruined beyond the hope ofirecovery. NEW FINANCE SYSTEII6- It was yesterday reported on 'Change, but whether merely for Stock -jobbing purposes we have not ascertained, that the CHANCEL. Lott of the EXCHEQUER intends to bubtoit to Parlia ment, soon alter the Easter recess. the s - s I. in vs ;ni plan " All the existing ['ales to be ins nes diatesy npeJed , except the Land -tat, and a new Fax of 2b per cent. to be levt-d on In come of every kind, except that arising from trade and lal our. Fur ascertaining the Property of Stock-holers, the Director: tbt Beek, the India House, the South Sea Httu.e. I public Companies, will, it is said, be called no to vet the etuuurtt of Stock possessed by every per , on, ssn every Mandl) , dur ng lam twelve mui.ths, and she AllSesiMcfri will be nutle Lecorl , n 7 to ~a remoit. h,A,e t ssn s sits on Lamle and Hanes :o taben trod% tie 'ast Return ot the s'rs perry I ax." The CHANCELLNI of the ExcitE:zuett pave netic: lart.r.ight of his intentii n to move that the Hitire C.: , :ninions shall, on Friday next, a.lourn over to nee, Monday fin thigh% It is said that the adjnornment takes place a tew.days earlier than Ministers had in• tended, in consequence of the indisposition of the SPEAKER. The complaint of the Right Hon. Gentle. Man we' understand to 4e an erysipelas.. He had some bandages on part of his head yeste-rd ty to the House. 'Fbe report s which has hero so oftne in circtibitirr, of an intended dissolution of Pail; tnienr, has been revived. within. these few days. We have not yet heard that there is any authoutty f-r it ; but it is hot improbable. The rejection cl he Pr. pony 'lax. the ;trio revision of Estimates, th.r censure of War iaties, ar'.l the !ate divis;on cat f aivia t t tb- Leeds of the Aaniiralty. as useless, m.ty hare Mt nisters to la:Lifte pulse of the people before the alarms about the Speneeans and tAiversal Sepage Reformers have time to.subaide. By,t be Hamburg!) Mail of last right we learn th:t r the Sess on of the Prussian•Counci. Sate: ~ill t.rk: place in a few days. The proceedings of Body ivrill be interesting, being the first ineetire! of any thing like a Representative Body in tit: -Kingdom. Thus do the people of Prussia appear to be about to enjoy the reward of their patriotisia. May her Ruhr; always remember the benefits &rived Irom their at. tacliment; and never more attempt to reduce them t. that star of degradation in which they were Iral.! ever since the Monarchy was established ! The hap• piness of Sovereign, is interki oven wish the happice,s of their snhjects. Despotism, though it destroys the Litter, adds not one tittle to the enjoyment of tire farmer. The people are injured by arbitrary pokers the Monarch obtains no advantage front it; who ate she gainers t A small band of courtiers, who eery revel in luxury, and riot in wantonness for a fev weeks, or months, or years. In their turns Loy mingle with the people, and subject their children t:3 the evils springing tram their folly. There are some discontents in Sweden. A LlCl tenant Olto NATITCII DAY has been touted guilty of publishing a book calculated to dirtinb the succession of the CltowN PtttNCE (BeaNAnoTTE)• TO wait at: the discontented the Cutrws l'ae.ca treats them we.' popular processions, &e. Oa the Isth instant. the 'standards, colours, atelfligs, - Takrn by the Stied:34 warriors within the last two hundred years, were ft moved uith great military poMp from the Saloon M the lt , ryal Garden. to tne ltetterholins Church, wher= they :at: to be henceforth' sh.posite:i. The number thLse trophies of • Swedish . heroism amounted nearly so tie almost incredible number of five thoirsand: Cl which 61.4 were gained under the gteet Guerav:t ADA.I3IIIS. and - I,6•27were the fruits (the only fru :s) of the military eaterprizes of CIiAIiLLI XII. and iv , successors.. ..khe KING and Cauws PKINCE, with tEc gat titian of Stocitlrolin, and a corps of iLkineNgle 4 the Dramatis Parent in this gtaird itar:unal sirectacir• With a view, no doubt, to popularity, the - Ci.ew3 Peiscielesi promuliated 'an" Orcrnance, calculated t 3 •• rhioo e o . ll o l . g u t if i f j : ; : r s s.tood lie e s p o 6 r r f v• s t h :e s d i . ; 1 1 %facts, and the non.impottation of .foreign tic.Ls• Such an Ordinance is a. codtradielion—a .Nine can be no export trade, eaemparatively ing, wl.or there are no iiriket„ser-for the imports ttan the payments for : the exPorts.. . • • The prodigious exportetinn of rain from (Mew forms a ttrikintarticle inSthereCeernran Paptrs: l : o state, that last 'eat time were at i ierteti twin that place, in 1,366 ships, good:A° the valor ef 5,1 16 . 1/ " J roubles, and - only to the amount of 409,600, rest imported. Among the 816 large ships which itved„were 407 101 Atittrs:-.0 French, Y 3 Ttukibh, 15 Swedi:h, Etc.