Star. — London, England, 1821-03-29 00:00:00

A g ad not regard these clauses as penal to the Catho it -clergy; either as painful or insulting to their f ee lings; for the very head of their own Church' had s n o wed them to accept of them. ' Instead of being ._real c lauses, they gav e strength and consolidation tbe Catholic Church of Ireland. In fact, by the,. we ir nt law, the Catholic Clergy of Leland were, by heir correspondence with the See of Rome, exposing t b er nselves to penal statutes, some of which would en perhaps, affect their lives. He regretted the vacillation of Dr. Milner on this subject; nor did lie t hink the talents of Mr. Hares, or those of another gentleman, in his letter to his Catholic countrymen i n Ireland, were displayed for the consolidation or Te rse oldi Catholic Church. He protested against tbe doctrine e , that this Parliament should suspend its fon:tions, until it knew the opinions of the different catholic Priests of Ireland on the subject. As to the f i rst oath, he thought it was one which no conscien tious Catholic Clergyman could refuse to take. The pope had distinctly declared, that he expected that th e British Legislature would not ask concessions from him which he had never granted to even Catho lic powers. The Catholic Clergy might have scru ples, but these scruples could not have great effect. le assured the Hon. Member, that if any modifica tion was proposed, that it would meet with the sanc tion of all parties ; for he could assure the Honour able Gentleman, that he proposed to legislate now w ith the Pope at his back—(Great laughter). —All t h e other Protestant countries in Europe required heavier securities; and he trusted the Hon. Gentle man would do his duty, without exciting jealousies and prejudices which might never have been found to exist. The Noble Lord then instanced the Bill for the Relief of the Presbyterian Clergy, which was pass ed twenty-five years ago, and which, in the set ting out, met with the greatest opposition, even from ;lose Clergy themselves. At this day, however, the Presbyterians were grateful to the Government for that Bill, and he had no doubt the same results would attend this measure, when its effects came to be un derstood in Ireland. The Noble Lord, in conclusion, entreated the Hon. Member to withdraw his opposi tion, from a perseverance in which he apprehended the worst consequences to the success of the whole measure—(Hear, hear). Dr. PHILLIMORE was as anxious as any man for the success of this measure; but he could not vote for it unless these securities were imposed, under the faith of which these disabilities had been consented to be removed from the Catholics. The Hon. Mem ber (Mr. Plunkett) had himself declared, that he would not ask the concessions for the Catholics with out demanding the securities from them. Mr. PEEL said, some laughter had been excited by the expression of a Noble Lord " legislating with the Pope at his back ;" but he could not say so of those who were now in the rear of him—.(A laugh). The duty of himseli and his friends had been a most painful one, in opposing this measure altogether ; but do not let them accuse his friends and himself of having attempted to impose these restrictions on the Catholics, _ _ _ Mr. M. FITZGERALD acknowledged that they should, if possible, conciliate popular alarm ; but they ought also to steer clear of insult and degrada- 1 Lion to the Catholics. The securities required from the Catholic Clergy were, first, an oath, not very dissimilar horn those in former Statutes; second, a tegulation of the intercourse with the See of Rome; third, a restriction on the nomination of Bishops, He did not find fault with the requiring securities, but it was taking them from a most meritorious body, who derived no benefit from the concessions of Par liament; and requiring no securities from those who *ere to receive a most valuable consideration, with out giving anything for it. Upon the exemplary con duct of the Catholic Clergy of Ireland depended, in a great measure, the peace of that country ; and, therefore, that body was the last that they should think of insulting, by requiring of them securities. He was, therefore, hostile to placing the nomination of the Catholic Clergy in the hands of any Protest ant Administration whatever. He recommended the perusal of Mr. Burke's warning against any such mischievous interference. Mr. CANNING should have thought it extremely tweng in any man to shrink from sharing in the un popularity which might attach to his supporting the part of the Bill, notwithstanding the popula rity he might have acquired in supporting the pre vious part of it. The whole object of this whole measure was to bring about a perfect feeling of union, of co-operation, and interest. Were they aware of the state of our laws with respect to com munication of the Catholic Clergy with the Roman See? —and if they were, would - they wish to con tinue them when found tco bad for execution? If aay man were now to turn round, and give up the concessions, he gave ground for a charge of Want of candour on the part of the Protestants ; and they would have a right to charge them with a fraud in bringing them to agree to the first part of the Bill by promising them the concessions contained in the second part of it. He would not be a party to such a fraud ; and as he had sacrificed many considera tions to obtain emancipation to our Catholic brethren, he would, with equal sincerity, oppose the whole Bill, if these concessions were refused to the Protestants. Sir G. HILL said, that much as he deprecated this measure, for the interests of the State, yet, if it should pass into a law, he would go all in his power to con ciliate the opinions of all parties to it. Mr. It. MARTIN appealed to the House whether, if they had known that the whole of the Catholic, aergy were hostile to this measure, Catholic eman fipation would have been in so forward a state as it now was ? Ile had voted for this 8111, though he *wild most probably have a Catholic antagonist at the next Election for the County of Galway; but he Mould successfully compete with him by holding the Charter of Emancipation in his band. The Catholic Bishops never thought these securities as contrary to their religious belief; but they considered them merely as conveniences to themselves. The very Head ache Romish Church did not disapprove of them. Mr. BARING considered that an imputation had been cast on the Hon. Members who had wished to *move all the securities, as having meant to put %trick and a fraud on the Protestants. Mr. CANNING sai d , h e h ad merely referred to toe opinions out of doors. Mr. BARING was glad to hear that; but he thought they ought not to impose any restriction on a body of men whom it was their ankivus uisls an 3 duty to conciliate; and he thought they ought to con ciliate all parties. Mr. RICE had the satisfaction of stating, that from his Catholic constituents he had received the assurance that they were most thankful for the concessions pro posed to be given them, even with the securities which might be demanded of their Clergy. He cer tainly did not approve of the second Bill ; but he would vote for it, because there were fears on the part of the Protestants. Mr. P. MOORE said that there were some ardent spirits in Ireland who would never be satisfied ; but he hoped the House would proceed without refer ence to them. The House then went into a Committee on the Bill. Mr. BARING thought the oath should be only pro spectiye, and be taken by those who might hereafter be admitted to officiate in the Catholic Church. Mr. GOULBURN resisted the Amendment, and Mr. BARING declined to press it. Mr. C. HUTCHINSON had, from the first, ex pressed his disapprobation of the second Bill; and, in the name of the Catholic Clergy of England and Ire land, protested against the penal clauses against the Catholic Clergy, who were to suffer for the conces sions made to the laity. Mr. W. WYNN must protest against the term penal, as applied to the clauses in question'. If the Clergy did not chuse to take the oath, they were liable to no penalty, and a similar oath was taken by the Dissent. ers, on the same footing with whom it was proposed to place the Catholics. Mr. M. FITZGERALD thought the new oath should be confined to the election of Bishops, and to intercourse with the see of Rome. To such the penalty of forfeiture of office should be confined, in the event of their not taking the oath. Mr. COU RTENAY was of opinion that the clause, as it originally stood, was the essence of the measure. The blank in the first Clause was tilled up with four months. Sir J. NEWPORT protested against the idea that there was anything in the Bill that tended to degrade the character of the Catholic Clergy. The second, third, and fourth Clauses were agreed to without any amendments. In the fifth clause, prohibiting any person from exercising the episcopal functions, without a year's previous residence in the country, it was suggested by Lord CASTLEREAGH that, on the Report of the ' Bill, a Clause might be inserted, enabling the Crown to dispense with the term of residence.— I'he sugges tion was acceded to by Sir J. NEWPORT. The Clause for appointing Commissions for in vesting Catholic Priests with clerical dignities, and for guaranteeing their loyalty and gohchaviour, was agreed to, after a few observations from Sir G. HILL, Mr. WYNN, and Lord CASTLEREAGH. Some discussion took place respecting the oath to be taken by the Clerk to the Commission, who was bound to secrecy, except to the Commissioners. • An Amendment was proposed by Mr. Bntcatr, re leasing the Secretary, in certain cases, from the oath of secrecy. The Amendment was not pressed, and the clause passed as it originally stood. On the Clause respecting the nomination of Bishops, Lord CASTLEREAGH suggested, that the Catholic no minated, or intended to be nominated, to be a Bishop or Dean, in Great Britain or Ireland, should, either by himself, or by others, give notice of such nomi nation, to one of his Majesty's Principal Secretaries of State, and not enter upon the episcopal func tion, till a month after his nomination had been ap. proved of on the part of the Crown.—The clause, thus amended, was agreed to. The several other clauses of the Bill were then agreed to. Mr. ELLIS then proposed a clause to disqualify Catholic Priests from holding seats in Parliament ; and, in proposing the clause, declared his opinion, that he considered this Bill, as far as regarded its giving security to the Protestant Establishment, as one of the most solemn humbugs thaf ever existed.— (Hear, hear). Mr. WYNN considered the clause as unnecessary; but after a few words from Mr. Ews, it was adopted. The preamble to the Bill was then read, and, with some ver bal Amendments, agreed to. The House then resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received to-morrows Sir J. NEWPORT said, he should stove the third reading on Monday, Mr. PEEL observed, he had reason to believe there would be a division on tile third reading. MISCELLANEOUS. The Public Notaries' Bill was read a third time, and passed. The house went into a Committee on the Innkeepers' Bill.— Report ordered to be received to-morrow. Mr. C. GRANT obtained leave to bring in two Bills, one to abolish Prison Fees, and the other to amend the Insolvency Act in Ireland. The Beer Duties Bill was read a third time, and passed. Lord STANLEY presented a Petition against the County Courts,lNU, from Bolton, in Lancashire.—Laid on the table. On the motion of Mr. HUNIE, several Returns connected , with the Ordnance were ordered. Sir G. NY ARRENDER postponed the consideration of the Navy Estimates to 'Friday. The Charitable Establishments Bill was read the third time, and passed. The other Orders were disposed of, and the House adjourned at Twelve o'Clock. A Petition to the House of Commons from New castle, is preparing, praying that a reduction from 225. to 10s. per chaldron, may take place in the duties on large Coals to be exported, which would advance the Revenue, increase the Coal Trade, and employ many indiviauals dependent on that Trade for subsistence. _ . The subjoined Letter, from a Landed Proprietor in Wiltshire, points out a Plan for the Relief of the Poor in Country Polishes, so well calculated to answer its intended purpose, that we would most earnestly re commend it to serious consideration : " Sarum March 22, 1821. " The plan of affording Relief to the Poor which I now com municate, is not calculated for the vicinity of Cities or large Manufacturing Towns, because their enormous population pre cludes the possibility of finding a sufficient quantity of land for the purpose ; but in small towns and villages, the plan may be, and has been adopted with success, and I shall adopt it on my own estates. " In one of the western counties of England, one or two spirited and benevolent landlords have resolved to allow each poor family in the parish one acre,. to be cultivated by the individuals of the family, after the first year; but during the first year, to be ploughed and sown by the tenants of the larger farms, the land lord allowing the tenant the expenses of seed. At first many evils were expected to arise from yt ; but the contrary is the fact, and the Poor Rates are very considerably reduced. The advantages of such a system mast be great, and particularly in the improvement of their morals, because they will necessarily feel a greater repugnance to commit any crimes by which they would be lowered in that scale." ROYAL HUMANE SOCIETY. Yesterday evening the Anniversary Festival of this Institution was held at the City o 1 London Tavern, Bishopsgate-street, his Grace the Duke of NORTHUM BERLAND in the Chair, supported by Lord BOLTON, Sir CHARLES FLOWER, Sir WILLIAM CONY:IC[IAM, and other persons of distinction. About 200 persons sat down to a most sumptuous entertainment. A band of music was stationed in the music gallery, and several professional Gentlemen amused the corn pany with songs. " The King," with a great variety of other loyal and patriotic toasts, were given in the course of the evening. The Duke of NORTHUMBER LAND, and other Gentlemen, spoke in favour of the Institution. In the course of the evening, several Gentlemen received honorary medallions, and several of the restored persons walked in slow procession round the room. Previous to the separation of the company, a handsome collection was made. SOCIETY FOR PROPAGATING CHRISTIAN KNOWLEDGE IN SCOTLAND, The Anniversary Dinner of the Society for Propa gating Christian Knowledge in the Highlands of Scotland was held yesterday at the Freemasons- Hall. The LORD MAYOR entered the room shortly after six o'clock, at which time there were about one hundred and fifty persons present. One of the Secretaries addressed the Meeting pre viously to his Lordship's taking the Chair : he stated, that the Stewards had just received from the Physi cian of the Duke of Sussex a letter, stating that his Royal Highness was extremely ill, and that his at tendance on the present occasion might be productive of serious injury to his Royal Highness. Under these circumstances, the Chief Magistrate of the City had, with his characteristic kindness, consented to take the I Chair —(Cheers). The Loan MAYOR then took the Chair. The late PROVOST of GLASGOW (Mr. MONTEITH, MX.) sat OR the right, and Mr. DOWNIE, M.P. on the left of his Lordship. There were present several distinguished persons, among whom was Mr. BUCHANAN, M.P. The cloth having been removed, Non nobis Domine was given by Messrs. PYNE, Cowtett, COOKE, and TENNEY, with their usual ability. The LORD MAYOR then proposed 46 The King," which was drank with three times three, and loud and long demonstrations of satisfaction followed this toast. GOD save Me King was then sang, the military band, which was present on the occasion, joining in chorusing this national anthem. The LORD MAYOR next gave " The other branches of the Royal Family," and this was received with great enthusiasm. The CHAIRMAN then gave "The Army and Navy," which was drank with three times three. The Loan Maroft then rose, and said that he was about to propose a toast, which, he was sure, would meet with very general approbation. Ile had to la ment the absence of their Illustrious President—not merely for the loss which, under any circumstances, that absence must give to the Meeting, but front the almost utter incapacity of the individual who at tempted so feebly to fill his place. lie should, how ever, without further observation, propose— . . " The health of the Duke of Sussex, the' President of their eit ceUent and useful Institution"—(Ckeeri). The toast was received with much satisfaction. Several other toasts were given by the CHAIRMAN, and the company continued till a late hour in the enjoyment of a convivial and friendly intercourse, increased by the recollection of the important and permanent advantages which their efforts were cal culated to produce among an intelligent and gene rous People. The interest excited on this Anniversary was very considerable. The gallery was crowded at an early ' hour with the fair and the fashionable, who conti nued during the evening to animate the several speakers with their presence and applause. Daum-LANE.—The Oratorios at this Theatre are continued with zeal and judgment. The selection of last night was highly attractive ; HANDEL supplied nearly the whole of the first part ; the second and third parts were taken from Rost 11 and several others, chiefly recent or living composers, from whom single tnorceaux were selected. There were several novelties. A grand chorus (sacred) by HAYDN, with which the performance opened ; a manuscript air from PAER, for the first time in England, which BRAIIAM sang with predominant taste, accompanied on the french horn obligato, by M, Puzzi, whose prelude was charming ; but the most striking novelty of the evening was a concerto on the violin, by M. KIESEWETTER, "first violin to his Maesty's Chapel Royal at Hanover." He was receive d with enthu siastic applause, and amply deserved it. BOXING. A battle was fought yesterday, in Shepherd's Marshes, Marrow Road, between Isaac Menkelt and -lama Wren, (both novices in the Art), in consequence of the latter thwarting the former in a tender connaion I Maskell made a good fight of it, but was beat after a sharp contest of 35 minutes. Monday, a battle was fought at Lansdown, near Bath, be tween Jain Frankton, of Weston, and a tailor, named Charles Manner. The combatants fought fi ft y-three desperate rounds, which took up an hour and a half. At the expiration of the hour Mariner had his jaw locked; and, at the end of the battle, was carried senseless off the ground to a neighbouring public house, where he shortly afterwards died. ARCHERY, Saturday, the Royal Company of Archers finished shooting for a Subscription Gold Medal, at their Butts, Hope Park, Edinburgh, which, after three days keen contest, was won by 'Captain /Ungar HAY, R.N. POLICE. MARLBOROUGH-STMT.—Yesterday, a man named Pemberton, was charged with committing a rape on the wife of a tradesman, in St. James's Park, on Tuesday night. The prisoner was re manded. Cuticles Case—Yesterday, Messrs. Coxes and DELA 'MILD, brewers, attended at Bow-street Office, to bear the decision on an information made against them last week. The question was, whether the defendants had a right to remove their ashes from their premises in St. Giles's to those in St. Martin's parish, for the purpose of being consumed in the way of their business ? The Contractors for the former parish complained, that, by the de fendants' being allowed to do so, they were deprived of the value of the ashes, which was very considerable ' • and contended, th at the ashes were their property the moment they became so, and that the defendants had no longer any controul over them. The l'lltnottarx said, it was extremely hard that the defendants should not have controul over their own ashes • but the words of the Statute were so extremely strong and imperative upon this point, that, taking them, as he was bound to do, in the lite ral sense, he must decide against the defendants. He accord ingly convicted them in the penalty of £lO. The defendants assured him they should appral to the Sessions. Ph ENtii PAPERS: PARIS, MARCII se. • The most recent intelligence from Grenoble states that tranquillity prevails in that city. The Chamber of Accusation of the Royal Court has, in virtue of Article 233 of the Code of Crinti:ial Instruction, taken cognizance of the affair of the 2)th instant, and appointed one of its Members to act as exa mining Judge. M. Ferdinand Dalpozzo, who has been appointed Minister of the Interior in Piedmont, was formerly a Member of the French Legislative Body. He was alScr President of the Court of Appeal for Genoa and Rome. M. Bussolmo, appointed to the War and Marine, has served as a Colonel in the French army. M. Gubernatis, appointed Minister of Finance, was, while the French governed Italy, Sub-Prefect of Parma. Count Christiani, appointed Director-General of Police, was a Prefect in France. He is known in Piedmont for an Address he made to a celebrated' personage during the Hundred Days. The reply of the Duke of Genevois has reached Turin, and has caused the greatest sensation there. He declares that he considers himself the first subject of the King, Victor Emmanuel ; that he will nut ac cept the proposition made to him of usurping the Throne; and that he protests against everything that has taken place contrary to the will of the Monarch and the tranquillity of Piedmont,—Gaz. de France. We learn from Chambery, under date of the 20th, that, on the garrison being called out to swear fidelity to the new Government, the troops broke thtir. ranks at the moment when they were required to take the Oath. Most of the soldiers carried off their arms.— The discontent is general in Savoy, and we ate assured that much discontent also prevails in Pied mont. The King is regretted ; the desertions from the army increase rapidly.—lbid. . . Copies of the Constitution of 1791 are spreading with profusion in the shops of the booksellers accus tomed to vend pamphlets and revolutionary libels.— Is it because the rebels of Grenoble called for that Constitution ? or, rather, was it not the shew made of this book which induced them to report that the Constitution of 1791 had been proclaimed at Paris ? Be this as it may, those who wish to revive the sove reignty of the People, and the right of insurrection, and to overthrow the existing order of things, ought to procure for themselves this Constitution proscribed by the Charter.—lbid. We are assured that the Duke of Belluno is :1)- pointed Commandant Extraordinary of the Sixth Military Division (Ese,ancon), the Seventh (Grenoble), and the Nineteenth (Lyons). He will establish his head-quarters in the last city. _ _ A great many reports were circulated yesterday, on the authority of an English courier from Italy.-- The name of this English courier was said to be Thom son. We can assure our Readers that no English courier has arrived here. To the details we gave the day before yesterday, respecting the criminal attempt at Grenoble on the 20th, we have to add, that the Authorities, perceiv ii,g that the standard of revolt was hoisted, were bound in terms of the law to declare the town in a state of siege. In thus adopting, however, the means of making the King's authority to be respected, the course of justice was not disturbed; and the Royal Court revoked the sentences of the guilty. The troops, as French soldiers always do, replied to the cry of re bellion, by exclaiming Five le Roi! and dispersed the mob with the butt-ends of their muskets. On the 21st, complete tranquillity prevailed throughout the city, and everything promised that it would not be troubled, A letter from Turin, dated the 16th, says, that the new King of Sardinia has written to the Prince of ' Cai ignano, that he will accept the Crown, if his bro ther's abdication be free, and if he persist in it ; but that he will annul whatever has been forced from the Regent by revolutionary influence, and will freely give a Constitution suitable and conformable to the wants of the country and to enlightened opinions. Letters from Geneva state, that the late events in Piedmont have produced universal satisfaction in the Western Swiss Cantons, the trade of which suffered extremely from the prohibitory system adopted by the Sardinian Government, with respect to foreign merchandise. The inhabitants of Savoy,-having been long deprived of all literary communication with France, have early written to their correspondents at Lyons and Geneva, to send them political and constitutional works, of which they are completely destitute. We read in the Gazette of Lyons, of the 20th inst. what follows : Yesterday was perfectly tranquil: the Prefect and the Mayor have res.-red confidence to all good citizens, by contradicting a.:quieting news, and have done justice to the good spirit of the inhabitants of the city. Annexed are the Notices which they have posted up; " THE PREFECT OT THE DEPARTMTNT OT THE RHONE TO THE INHABITANTS OR LYONS. " Absurd reports were circulated yesterday, and a momentary uneasiness was the consequence. " These reports, destitute of all foundation. are incontestably the work of malevolence, which wishes to create disorder to furnish pretexts for accusing the Lyonese population, and to dis turb, along with the peace which our city enjoys, the commercial relations that form its prosperity. " The Authorities are confident that, under these circum stances, the Lyonese will afford a proof of the good spirit which animates them, and that, jealous for the preservation of that cha racter of wisdom and moderation which they have acquired, they will give fresh proofs of their attachment to order, of their love of our new institutions, and the King to whom we owe them. " Lyons, March 19. " LEZAY MA lINEZIA." " MAYORALTY OF LYONS. " The most absurd reports were yesterday evening circulated among the Public by malevolence. " But the good spirit which animates the inhabitants of this city has not belied itself. The have known how to oppose the most perfect tranquillity to the efforts of the enemies of the King, who are also those of the country. " Lyonese, you will repel the aggressions of the partizans of disorder, under whatever mask they present themselves; and you will not allow that perfect tranquillity which you have con stantly enjoyed, and to which you are indebted for the prosperity of your trade and manufactures, to experience the slightest bi terruption. In the present circumstances, rs in every other, you will give a new proof of your unalterable attachment to the King, and to the invaluable institutions whi-b France owes to him. " Lyonese, confide in your Magistrates ; they watch for you ; and they will equally justify the Confidence of the Government and their fellow-citizens. " Done at the Town-House, March 19. (Signed) " BARON BAMBAUD, " Mayor of the City of Lyons."