Star. — London, England, 1831-02-05 00:00:00

LIDERATURE. t. FRAZER'S MAO The number of this rising periodical, he the present month, is ca. u sity one of the beet, if not the very beet, which has been published. 0, opinions on political questions we can seldom approve; but there ato much information, and acuteness of argument, displayed in all t he articles, that they sometimes make us doubtful about the validity of i e ur own previous judgment. The first article, "on the Repeal of the Union," is one of serious and ominous importance r but if, as this author infers, that Ireland is lost as a sister isle, if the Catholic man option be not repealed, we fear she really mast be breve's:ably goes; e d therefore furs arguments, which, prove her little value to Britain, are not only clear, but consolatory. For the second article, " Peter Nimmo," we have so greet sest—its wit 14 obscure and local. " A Day in Kent" is a rich imitation of Black. ood's best style—it has much humour both of incident and expression. Fatal Presentiments," sad " The Only Daughter," are two take well :onceived and well executed. We have been not may amused, but, to borrow a plume from the " lance guid," we bope iseyeeecei by rea di ng the able critique on " Southey's We of Bunyan." We next have a curious article on " Unrepresented London," which, with the article on t he " Ballot," we recommend to all oar readers who are applying their minds to parliamentary reform. In the first essay to which we allude, it is shewn that there is a population of 246,113 souls—in a district which the author calls "North London," comprising the parishes of st. Mary-la.borine, St. Pansras, St. Andrew, St. George, Si. Olies„ la Bloomsbury, who are quite unrepresented, and meriting to be coo ralered in the new arrangement; as well as the inhabitants of Man. chests, Leeds, or the other great towns, whose want of representatives has occasioned so much remark. The article on Lady Morgan's .6 France" we consider amusingly gametic ; but, on the whole, Lady Morgan has been made too much the butt of modern critics. The fact is, she is often affected, but likewise often amusing and ingenious. The closing ankle on "Slavery," like all hs predecessors on the same sub ject, we cannot much approve. The number is decidedly a good one. UNITED SERVICE JOURNAL.—COLCURX Ana Co. There is alwaysmach information tobe obtained by the general reader from the pages of this Journal ;—and, when we say informatics, we mean that kind of it which is accompanied by what is ineladed in the rather equivocal term entertainment. What la the reason that a work intended principally for professional readers, should 'ford general into. rest T—just because it is richer in facts than opinions. Could the book. making world keep this secret of literary success more in their view, we might have fewer books, and smaller Goes ; but likewise fewer unsuccess ful temporary abortions. The first article is "on Duelling."--a bad subject to reason on—and we pass it. " Thoughts on the Qualification of Naval Mere, and on the Navy," contains many practical hints of national importance. " A Morning's ride in an Indian Comp," is highly interesting end picturesque in description ; and we may say the same of " Algiers in 1816." The " Reminiscences of a Subaltern," panel, in all its deformity, the horrors of war. The " Description of sn AncieLt Galley," throws some light on an obeeme subject. Be sides what is hero mentioned, there is in the Number a " Sketch of Polish Hatay," and of the " Polish Constitution;" and much in. 'auction and discussion on subjects too profiedenal to require oar notice. We shall conclude this comment by extra Ling a few lively lamas term a _ " FAREWELL TO DEMERAILL", Farewell, farewell to the land of the West, Farewell to thee, ebony Sarah, Farewell to the spot what I've often been blest, On thy green sunny banks, Damara. I go to the isle that's far over the sea, The isle of the lilies and roses ; But meuery, Guiana, will dwell upon thee, Thy woolly black beads and snub noses. Let Italy talk of her aquiline phis, And Greece of ha forms so inspiring ; Let France boast her modes, and bet rouge, and bet Ms, And Albion her maids so retiring. I are not—ehill Europe forme has no charm, Sly thoughts o'er the ocean will follow The sun's glowing daughters, with pulses as warm As the rays of their &thee Apollo. From Angola's shore, 'mid young graces and loves Who fettled her along, but Deft said welds, In a cloud Venus came, all encircled by doves, As we're told by the grave Bryan Edwards. On the land of the Weet, the jet goddess dropp'd down, Where she alter'd the curve of the noses And made them as broad, and as Sat as bee own, Since her African apotheosis. Two ivory rows which all whiteness eclipse, l e t the poets have sung them, Sh 'twist a pair of fresh pouting thick lips, look " as a bee had just stung than." Then lifting the trews that Soul to the waist, Whine Cupids in ambush might shoot us, The goddess (solar they showed very bed taste, And aided them up to a Brutus. Tina foetal was the siren from whom I depart, With 'mow to acme the wide anon, Whose waves could as seen wash bee out of my bean, As the sea wash her whits—l've a notion. Then fare thee well, Sally, Guiana's dark belle,— Canes, cocoas, and lofty palmetoes, Cock-roaches, jack Spaniards, and agues farewell— Farewell fens, frogs, and =Alton. R. M. The Spanish Minister had an interview with . Viscount Palmerston yesterday at the Foreign Office. A deputation of merchants interested in the trade to the Netherlands had an interview with Earl Grey yesterday at the Treasury. Despatches were received yesterday at the Colonial Office from Sir Frederick Adam, the Lord Higb Commissioner of the lonian Islands. Also from the Honourable General Pon sonby, the Lieutenant-Governor of Malta, and Sir G. Don, the Lieutenant-Governor of Gibraltar. Mr. Charles Grant had an interview yesterday with the Chancellor of the Exchequer at the Treasury. The Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Common Pleas transacted business yesterday at the office of the Secretary of State for the Home Department. The Lord Chancellor entertained a party of Members of the house of Peen, including several of the Cabinet Minis ters at dinner on Thursday evening, at his residence in Ber keley-square. DEATH 011 Ma. Hope.—Thomas !lope, Esq. of Deep deue, the opulent Dutch merchant, and reputed author of " A nastasins, or Memoirs of a Greek," died on Wednesday, at his residence in Dachas-street, Portland-place, at an advanced age. Mr. Hope was a gentleman of considerable literary attainments, and was favourably known as the author of other publications which enjoyed a celebrity nearly equal to that of A xastasius. He married in 1806 the Hon. Louisa Beresford, daughter of the late Lord Decies, archbishop of Tuam, and sister of the present Peer, by whom he has left a son, Mr. Henry H o p e , M.P. Gro om of the Bedchamber to his late Majesty. The benevolent society of Goldsmiths and Jewellers held their first anniversary meeting on Wednesday last, at the Crown and Anchor Tavern, when 150 members of this opulent branch of trade sat down to a sumptuous dinner, after the business of the day had been disposed of. eINEVEAR Cotwcznencu.—Buckingham-bouse and York-house were pulled down at the same time, and were rebuilding at the same time. Near the completion of York palace the Duke of York died ; and near the completion of Buckingham-palace the ling died. Both buildings, it ap pears, are likely to descend f rom ro y a l h an d s . Y or k-p a l ace has been bought by the Marquis of Stafford; and Bucking ham-palace, it is rumoured, is to be given to the Duke of Northumberland, in consideration for Northumberland house, or it will be sold. RD.—Thursday, T. G. Brameton, Esq. in consequence. it is supposed, of the bursting of a blood-Teseel, he having been found 4a in hie water-closet. - .. ~ STATE OF THE COUNTRY. Near Leeds, Jan.3l, 11131. I perceive from the letter of your correspondent near Halifax, that though the currency question is happily set ai rest by the legislature, it yet bolds a place in the minds of some " practical men" whose habits have been formed under the paper circulation. Therefore, before I enter on the cause of the distress of the country, and from what quarter relief may be expected, a few remarks may with propriety be offered on his observation " that paper money created all we see around us, and that with ' out it we must go back to the state we were in forty years Because paper money existed or grew up during a period .1 great prority. it does not follow that paper money was the cause. That prosperity ought rather to be attributed to the wonderful inventions and improvements in machinery. which made labour so abundantly productive that society made greater advances in thirty years than in centuries of any period in the history of put times. Changes in the Infte Ot the circulating medium are unquestionably fraught with much evil and injustice, and inevitably ruin multitudes of innocent individuals. When the medium of exchange becomes more valuable, all debtors lose a value exactly equal to the lammed value of the currency ; but their creditors are be trefitted to the like extent ; and those who hold stocks of goods suffer losses by a depreciation in the nominal value of such stocks in a similar manner, as well as those who have invested capital in any permanent outlay, whether in ma chinery, buildings, or land. Where these stocks are held en credit, or by means of borrowed capital, or if the perma nent investment has been effected by means of mortgage, ruin must of necessity fall on those who are in this unfortu nate situation, but their losses are not lost to the country, because their creditors must gain to an equal amount. The great evil, so far u the country is concerned, consists in the ruin falling on the productive classes ; but this injustice once incurred, the effect of the change in the currency ceases; and this change, having long passed by, cannot be the cause of the present distress, except incidentally, through the un natural attempts by means of legislation to prevent the price of food from falling to the common level, and thus placing it beyond the reduced means of the people. This is to make bricks without straw. _ _ _ The low rate of interest proves that there is abundance of money in the country which wants employment. Low prices require a smaller circulation of money, a rise of prices would soon lead to an extended quantity. High or low rims respectively regulate the quantity of money required for the necessary transactions of business, the demand as compared with the supply as necessarily regulates prices, but demand and supply are affected by causes hereafter ex plained. I mainly agree with your correspondent in his representa tion of the state of wages, profits, and the spirit of diarist's faction pervading the country, and with the necessity that relief should take place " iitstantly." I bef )i t a o nk thank him for his clear and concise account of the et trade, which will servo to illustrate my view of the present aspect of affairs and the nature of trade. He proves that if each family were to get one blanket weighing sle lbs. annually, it would furnish employment to nearly double the present actual amount. It would require more machinery, an additional number of labourers, and a much more extensive supply of wool. This could not take place without considerably increased profits, wages, and higher prices for wool, from the increased demand. Nei ther could this take place in the blanket trade alone, for the increased Agility to purchase blankets would extend the same effects to every other trade and employment,and the state of the country would thus again become very prosperous. After food, blankets are most necessary ; and one of this light quality seems a small allowance. And why cannot each 'labourer obtain'one blanket annually for his hinny, and an equal quantity of other necessaries, which that ability im [ plies, and which would produce the above happy effects The true answer to this question would solve all difficulties. I propose the following solution : The wants of the labourer may be classed under the two heads of food and clothing : under clothing, I include rent, furniture, and firing. Upon examination it will be found, that in average times it will require half the labourer's wages, or three day's labour each week, to procure food for his family, the other half being, fully required for clothing, &c. If food rises in price, so as to require a disproportionate share of his wages, or time, and as wages are so various, it will be best to measure these proportions in time ; and if this advanced price of food requires four days instead of three, it is evident that be can now procure one-third less of blankets, and of every other necessary. The consequence will be one-third less demand for clothing, and therefore im plies one-third less employment, less wages, less profits, less prices of wool, and less prosperity throughout the country. I appeal to the common knowledge of all men if it is not a fact, with the exception of some particular em ployments, that to procure food does require a dispropor tionate share of the labourer's time or wages, equal to the above statement of one-sixth, the amount of which, whoever will take the trouble to (Impute, will find it amount to a prodigious sum, fully adequate to account for low wages, low profits, and low prices. The country does not grow food sufficient for its inhabitants, a large proportion amount ing to three millions of quarters of grain, is annually im ported from foreign countries, under a law which raises the price of food more than one-third, and absorbs one-third more of the labourer's time or wages than a comfortable state of things will allow. The higher the corn law forces the proportionate value of corn to other necessaries of cloth ing, the greater distress will take place, and the lower will prices, and profits, and wages necessarily range, while the price of corn itself will be kept down by the lessened ability of the consumers to purchase. This continually increasing relative disproportion of time or wages necessary to procure food, is the canes of all the distress and dissatisfaction pervading the country, and can only be relieved by a removal of the cause, which is thus proved to be the corn law. Interference with the food of the people, has produced si milar effects, and has greatly contributed to the convulsions and revolutions in neighbouring countries. France has pro hibitory corn laws, which have been aggravated by several bad harvests, insomuch that it has been found necessary to import corn at high prises caused by English demand, and thus bread in France has for a few years been as dear as in England which has produced a feeling of oppression, and fostered the spirit of dissatisfaction attempted to be put down by the fatal ordinances of Charles X. In Belgium I have understood that a tax of nearly a third of the flour or its value, was exacted at every corn mill, and that the presence of a revenue-officer wee indis pensable, before any man was allowed to kill even a pig, or other animal. In sea of the petty principalities of Germany, their breed taxes have been removed, to "resent convulsions. — Surely this is warning enough. It is the duty of every man to use his beet endeavour to obtain the repeal of our most oppressive and impolitic Corn Law. Among the Corp di Ballet announced for the issuing wawa at the Opera, there is ODO 70001 lady, a Mademoi-• sells Capra, a nano by sotom inappropriate for a dassensc. . T IMPERIAL PAIMIAMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS, Fss. 4. The Lora Ceases:4.os Ink ide ant a the mama at WM past an o'clock. Lord KING = r ear It has Lasureassa I fit. Janes, 01111111111•11 pen. Alm, ken the Cor poration of Sheemehus et that Fib Town et Caper is Fite. shire , and hem Haesesbessugh, 144d,BADNO•eheeibe w o w. dila fuss Mime, Work lloPor. Loom. W ad miens ether pawn The Duke et N petesned a pada for ea atessies it dvil and relights Maty, - fress a perish la Galway. Abe fee the da -1 Stift of okay, from various parts in thee meaty. Sir J. ilsmint ad ethers brought up the Judgment In sucation MlL—Agsseil f., vii ease assodoeuts. Mr. Craphell ad ethos Mew& up a Prints Rood Bill. Earl ROSSLY/Lmeated petition from far royal boroughs of Fife, pains for Led FARNHAM Wed for certain mums relative to the tobacco duties.-.oefirra. The Maple of LANSDOWNE resed a great variety e( peti tions be Ram is Pirbenern TIN No Marc& said that he had gives hie ant umprelledesmmot to the swam for Idea which led been lamed by his esibegass, sal which would be oshadttedi to pothook la Rae dose s the peddles width wombat Orsonek, ben the Tows Camel of the laid bsteugh, nem Straw: m, sad ether places, were this bid a the table. The Dabs at RICHMOND moved that the Rev. Mr. Wells he sunnemed toesand the Committee is the Pose Laws.—Coisted. Oa the minim of the Rail of SHAFTESBURY, the Reuse At jowled dB Maday. ASSISSID 7/131211. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mt. Huns was le his peso _Whin die Speaker took the Chair. Mr. Aid. WAITZ3LON assn @Walla Mend t be took his sat by the side of the hoc. member tar Proem t and both enema late a very close and active eenversatioa. Four newly elected Maim took the oaths and their seats. Sir J. NEWPORT possessed a Petition from the Chamber of Corn. mace, Waterford, for des repeal of the duty on Sea.bortse Coal. OTFORW. Sir J. NEWPORT than reset:tad a petition from 400 chicon of Waterford City fur Pedimnentary Reform and the vote by ballot.— Ordered to be printed. itrwsraesas. Mr. LITTLETON presented a petition from Walsall, Staffordshire, for Parliathentary Reform and reduction of taxation, particularly of the tax on Newspapers. He concurred in the petition.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. H. DAVIS presented a petition from Bristol for the repeal of the duty on see-borne coals. Mr. C. GIANT took the oaths and his seat. Several petitions, for the abolition of slavery, were resented from females of Coleshill, Bristol, he. COXDITIO. OF ens POO& Mr. SADLER postponed his modes for leave to bring in a bill to amend the condition of the labouring poor hero Feb. 54 to March 8. Sir IL FERGUSON presented about sight petitions for Perlis. =wary Reform and Vote by Ballot from Forfar, Hingham, &v. He agreed in the petition. Ordered to be pinta Mr. DEN ISON presented a petition from Godard:lg. Surrey, for Parliamentary Reform, whisk was the list from that county. He had great pleasure in supporting is, though he was no advocate for annual Parliaments and universal neer. Mr. BRISCOE sweets/ dmi poddsn,—Ordered to be printed. Mr. DENT thus wonted a petition from the neighbourhood of Reigate, foe the repeal et &e melt tax. and a commutation of tithes. —Ordered to be plead. Mr. I. LOCH presemail p slsus he Parliamentary Reform from the counties of Rom, Dfaewll, sod Wick. Mr. DENISON aid r. J. LOCK presented strand petitions for Parliamentary 1611.11/11h Mr. HUME append disk prayers, and expressed Ids satisfaction that all Seabed, as well as 1i inglead, called for Parliamentary Res fonn.—Ordemil to he pistil. Mr. WILES preened a }Aids', paying that the British Law might be extended to Endo* Christine. At pelmet, be said, all Hia. doe Christians wen deprived oldish had. Mr. FERGUSON denial that any snob derivation bed taken Page, and Mr. CAMPBELL Amid tbst diem was soy law to water le. 1111.WILKir, diet had he enreeed snob melealledes, be would have demi dee emu of demo Maim wholesome they bad become Whose @ablest le mob deprivadoes. Sir C. Cents prommed a relate /Am Rwhireasy, Qesee's county, reorWag the Chant to thelLiliosetioset misty, C.MASTINGS resealed a peddle hem Looghbeesegb, for a repeal of the Corn Laws, and for reumAbasset and seesemy.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. HUGHES HUGHES presented a ilen bum Clergymen of Bristol, praying for leave to build sad ear m whiasst the consent of the Rwtor of the parish.—Ordered who Mr. IL RICE moved for copies of the meraing the public Canals in Coco.—Ordered. Mr. BETHEL presented three petitions from gloms in Yorkshire, against the duty on sta.bctne Coals, sad the Asseessi Taxes, the per. tiality of which taxes Le well knew, hem bating mad as a Commis sioner of Taxer.—Ordseed to be OWL, Lord FORDW ICH rmeMed a petition hem the inhabitants of Canterbury, for Parliameassey ltelbeestleelseed to be printed. Mr. FERGUSON preemie& a ridden seldom the duties as Sated attendee, from Perthshim. Mr. KENNEDY, in presenting further emblems for Parilwasenety Reform in Scotland, begged so remind the house, that not ems ridden against the required reform bad been presented from any part of amt. land. The petitions were from the Corporation of Geldoniths of MN. b u nk, Perth. he.—Ordered to be printed. - 17 s 'W. INGLE HY promoted a petition from a perish in Limas. shire, for the appointment of a •• General Fast." Mr. PHILPOT presented a petition free Gletteeeter, for andectiket of taxation. DUTY 011 COMA Mr. C. PELHAII asked whether an boa. Sweet intended to pest. pone his motion regarding ma-borne coals* Sir T. ACKLAND replied certainly Dm, mope seenetbing took place before sth March to woman the postponement. Mr. GURNEY presented - a rides dm the Equal of the Assessed l'axe.—Ordmsd M he Mr s . Aldan. BIAIVIUTAN said be had given no voice en this subject, boom hi AM ism etlslt to do any thing to embarrass his Ms. I jesty's sowintaate ides leeemdieeed were pledged to all possible re. ductions. He was mfr gut so see what they would propose—if their measures did wet mei Ids views on this subject, he should en 'dilly bring forward blet=lmed maim Petition ordered to bo Mr. DUNCOMILE possried these shnUar petitions brim padelses in Yorkshire. Ordinal to Mt gibied. Mr. K. DOUGLAS presented a petitino from his etas-Mims In if Dumfries, praying time in any ream that might take plum =tie made its foundation. It was suggested that the riuSene j 7:l or Cornish Boroughs should be transferred to Earmeghe of Illsollod.—Ordered to be printed. *. AM. WAITH MAN protested a petition from the Ward et Pea tar it &hem and Vote by Ulm, to the necessity of which he vats Unbeekled to my he bad become a careen. Me. HUNT was glad to bear that the How. !limber had now be muse a coeval to the Ballot, which was now become so fashionable. He was persuaded of the fact—if the meteopedis were polled, be be-. lieved nioety-nine out of every hundred would vole fee it.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. HUME presented similar petitions from Perthshire, fee. AU of them, adding Mr. Hums, relisidul the " Vote by 11 • 11 "" (Cheers.) Mr. it OMR peseented a petition frees Richard Janes, of Lintebstme, riming that the late Ministas might be bunk to pith& justice. )augh.)—Onimed to Us en the lack. PARLIAMENTARY OATS* BILL Air. C. 'WY NN said be wished to divide his Bill fee the meol eV all unnecessary Parliamentary Oaths into two Bills. 11. moved that the Bosse jp into a Committee on such BiU, is which Cemmittee he should move the omission of such parts as he desired to be maned for est ther Bill. Sir R. INGLIS elikad to that sweeping sway of the secuthise am templamd by this MR The bill west further dem he thought the right bon. Ewer temouplated. The sash ef abjuredum ought um to be repealed. The act of oddment established the right if the proem family to the throne, sad, virtually repel that, as wield be dome by the resent bill, what weld wed la the way of the rights ef the Ser. disian family ?(A laugh.) He chellseged any ems to aseurediet the correctness of his statement. (Herr.) He meet, therein% reties this motion. Mr. FERGUSON seppensi the modem Heed me meet iodise,. and without say lisehatiel. There was no doges that the Turk, dte Jew, or the Mahe might take eats seder die bill; wed the =de dee of the home et Savoy did net depend es oaths. bet ea the Meaty of the ofd Am. The shieredee oath wse Italy landed to meet ▪ temponey dieser mml if these wan issemideses et Jame IL mow hs should equally wpm the tide abierstise oath. He truste d Met the " seremess• oath for dean' timid also be lb. BLUNT aseterrei in the medie. std Imamed ie rt li tt wee net pursed to sepal teeny alto equally elmoitisee samba. (Hear.) Hs meld, meeMmiwg the mem met ef *loge, that sus re peal would be. mepegged by mem pewee meeposset so dieted. Sir C. WI THERILL eimerved, that the Ass d Iletdeemst neteoly cal la " *I PFdeo.b. tailiFs all She "mammal halm r sod n th a s the gush of aujelauss WA Imp spinisiss. lawyer wadi admit ad it 11,1111/lIIMI pod splint risks of cameral heirs as well es lb" a1". 0 . 1 4 , Pe IP,* MK .—• to elms the pried* el the N. -: -"-- - -11_' 17. 7""r"!!" .- "7"""'"'"7' • obiotolloo sod i the pthlllwle olotisied se much in twee se ever. As to dm selloood dein big a awe spun, that might be showy asp mot ; but let It bo toodhood that the treaty of Amiens required the Wog of &shoats reelp_biodde to " Francs" It was net , he spectre —the oso•totity• -dm draw, which some imagined t and he would not owed to *Whit the sod which %volved the ptluciple of the resole. do sod todudeo. Them wove two or three words which he should not ' 1111 111.. C.WA aid, be certainly had anielpated this direussion on both aralloloo d the NI ; but the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had not board of his klesties to espeeste the objcets of the bill. He, bow. ever, mbeebted that thawing no ground for the objections that had beam, semwhot wthathip, Mild. He then explained the objects of dw bill FFardedilkotuallthades oaths before the Lord Steward, and the a msa thsolowiendy entering the MOPS without Ant M apparel Won the Lod Steward. He only wished to retain **titan et the bin which regarded the taking of the (laths before the Led UMW ; aid to that part no objection had been made. As to the agpmat otthe Lund Gentleman respecting tha Act of Settle meat, bellitioslo, with Adams to the hon. member, that it was an oases agebt trs Parlisonst an my that it bad rot the right to change the Act of Marmot. its was surprised at the statement shout the treaty of Asthma. No such stipulation was introduced there or in any other meaty ; the this was voluntarily abandoned, as empty, melees, aid eldiesism. ea the Saba of Ireland with England. The change wok doe is JAM, bet sat is assequesee of any claim from, or clause g ht i z z loesty owl by Frame. Et was true the French had ossa theid dot lt was degrading to the Kirg 9f France that the =te a _ _ ld tlaalMas the t b i y tle no means re of this bill. The gamin lb. Ilamoteladelim required such stipu lation ; why then woo the Patersitoot le Is 110111111.4til front it ? The " usurance of Ilsedod was a theloolho, ad elk oath. 11., like the hon. member for Illlpsylls,hisi use teethMOM dist this subject would precede another miss (memileg the dell it), and therefore be was not prepared to Mows it 11*. Hs bodi so objeeties to the course proposed •to swum the fttall ot the hll6wo that each subj-ct might UV in OW dent ameilmodoo. To dotard et the abjuration oath he should object. Mr. FERGUSON mid the " assurance" was a declaration under the Scads parliament, but rendered an oath by the British parliament. Mr. PERCEV•L said, as the succession was limited to protemants, this oath ought not to be hastily repealed. Lord ALTHORP said the discussion had taken him as melt by surprise as it could have done any one else; but as none objecud to a part of the bill, he did not see how they could object to tit: committee to separate the objects of the bill. Sir C. WETHERELL observed that, according to the arguments used, the oath of allegiance might as well be repealed. And it any M 312 doubted that the oath of abjuration was part of the revolution, he did not envy him his scepticism. Sir R. INGLIS said, his objections to the bill were so strong that he must take the sense of the House on it. Gen. OASCOYNR said, the oaths had been useful as security to the king himself—that the Lord High Steward might inform his Majesty what oaths had been taken : besides, what confidence could they nave in the mover who found it requisite to separate the objects of the bill. Mr. SADIMR said he would object to the bill. as it was calculated to deprive his Majesty of a requisite solemn security in that house. His Majesty had not a right to eater the House of Commons himself, with. out committing a breach of privilege I and it would be Impolitic, at this time, to abridge the security of his Majesty, particularly when the timer, wee in that state which rather required that security to have additional strength. Streergere were ordered to withdraw for the purpose of the house going into seditious; but after several hon. members had delivered their opi nions, and some explanation had taken place, the bill was suffered to be submitted to a Committee of the whole house, when the Report was reed, awl mama es be taken into consideration again on the 20th Maury. CIVIL LIST. Lad ALTHORP, ppaannunaaont to his notice, that the Civil List be submitted to a Select Casmittee, rose, and after a brief allusion to the memorable event connected with the last time that the Civil List had • been brought before the house, in which he adverted to the different points on which the division of opining bad then rested. pneeeded to state, that he bad as much as peseible andeavoueed to follow the mans that bed bees pointed out by the position on the former ' occesien. The haws list bed contained many items not at all connected with the puma comforts of his Majesty ; in the present list it bed been eadeavomed to avoid that objection. The former list ' was divided into ten classes, that which be had to propose was only divided inse lye cheese. The let, his Majesty's Privy Purse, and fm btr Nai12 8, 68 Queen I SI, the Ohms and Servants of the Oilleers. the Lord Steward , &c. 4th, MO asondes and Chao ds@ titb, reasiews. The noble lord remark. ei Oil It was absebstely aseamery far the personal comfort of his bla tir=iti duet he should be placed on a certain footing, to Inderesdent of the Houses of Parliament during Ibis nip 8 and this bed been fully attended to in the framing of the list that he (the Debbi Lord) bad to present to the house. In the first class then no sharedes hed.bees meth I It allowed 60.0001. for his Majesty's privy purse. and IMAM tor the Queen The second class, in the for ma list, was MISPIIII. Ida. the resist was 120,3001. The noble lord Was desirous to peke oat that the dlilbeence Odes two amounts was rot to the fall a divert ativizca s :: expenilkare ; but that thelbalmies to the Surveyor-General of smi W Akan and servants, had been trans. tested to the Candliedi g that thewediter of the Civil List had beta =raa e a medese elm and sue An midi be comprehended In tio of desTecesney Boost the *hi dose, the Noble Lord said, had bees looked into, and considedng tee nee of expense of living, it had bees considered that at the peiee of ankles of cotsump. • Lion, th ere was no passibility of the allowance, unless a more ccooomic male was adopted by the retinue of his Majesty, by the which he mom alter his style of ; and his establishment was now much lorreseed on account of she addition of a queen consort. — The hardy Royal Bounties and Amides. was much the same as the former list. The grossest alterative one in the Fifth Clam, Pension. en, which by the forme list was divided Into three items—the lists of Right* Ireland, mod Scotland individually, but the present list coo lpolluted the three into one, at the sum of 76,0001. It was ne cessary to clash this elms mere particularly. The difference of Ithe ammo la the coosolidated shape was sot to be reckoned se being lo the room of the three farmer Items • for although the objects bad bees comelidated ender th e bead of th e evil list. another arrangement was cootemplated that divided the calculation. It would be unfair to ' tie up his Majesty. that be might au have the power of rewarding merit by venting penslems, to a amain extent limited. The Noble 1 Lard (Abbacy) here reeapitulated the extent of royal prerogative in Idling up the vacancies by death en the pension list which had h i therto been entirely at the direction of the Crown. By the pr. Wit li.t 111 was amassed that to obviate this power it was propo,ed to ge tstrict the *umber of pensioners on the civil list to seventy.lve of the swain . sad tbe other junior pensioners were to he Iran.- ; tarred to tar Cooselidated Fund. HI. Lnedsbip here point's! out be lvas crated advantage of the calculation that the reservation was sa hint for the Femmes of the liberality of the Crown ; and din. with respect to sundae peasioaers. they bring smelled to the I vo. soaked fend, as say vacancy might occur, the eleath must coast. Evoyd a l oe Were the house. and tie amount so relieved be at its . It might be urged by some. that on the pension list oar. I densel y• peat mein ha might ys been effected, of which the Debi' had was well convinced. and that all grants of pensions had expired at the demise et the Crown; but although Government could en. teddy resume them en a legal right, they could not rake !hem en lordseble right, as all nth allowances were granted for life. The poser of the graded speestien from the transfer of the junior pen. dews to the conolidated fund, would enable the hours peaces. Wooly to COM the evil. On the whole list there did rot appear to he a pat envies but the Noble lord amoral the house. that from a diligent eampadoen, ohne was diativaties in the civil list for al the tun. pease embossed is the statement. of 20.0001. and the meat Oa mismat diethedea bewail the fernier and the pester list, was, that new soly MINIM was MO Ia the power of the Close, noted of SWIM. short 11111.111101. would this be left at the disposal of the knee, which wield ttttlnnatel be a saving, se they would h a v e tee mitred tithes pe.Unre. The ante lord looked upon_ it as being set s i vaiting g e dig owls* a s:ajesty, seeing that so many hems bed been imam's& litho the head et she civil list, that wee not esciessary fee die sensfort ef his Majesty, sod that be would be relined flan the le. spenellibiy. The noble led end, be had we obeervadoet to make, which, aidesegb not emalog under the bled of the civil list, was needy related to k. It had bees the among to allow a grant order the name , of Sings ont for a Queen; themes of 64.00111. had been granted as an oath to Cbseistse, uses dewy the Third, and a suitable greet was also allowed fee Qum Oasolise ; mad it would me have lem 'mains& by the present mildewy bed a similar grant been demanded For the poem. Omen The he ministry bad entertained the same idea, Ise the Dike of Iffelliagma did not deem it unreasonable that such a rsi tz ig leold be wade. Ito oeble hod expressed his gratihation in the lessee that Ms present Majesty had, unoLcited, refused so Nov any mob won he the Quern—(H. i) His to m amba with ei maw on the conduit of his Majesty, who was, do, epreally, ens of the meet popular sovereigns who had eves sod who was ashes so neernmend himself so the love of a lopeople by thing all that be amid he the beige of the country. 1 Mr. GOULBWRN nee, and said that the pain so wheal the Hone had split is evince as the Oen List, tiesiog the lase ed. Inielstratiele bobq leowilet below tbs Ifloose, Igoe wbahog ot oat tbe List &weld be Mora tad to he lielarker to ablate Cbsosiltteet Me (Mr. Goolbone) was glad dot tee Wale awoodlle of the W comsnerad grids his in epeeists. that lime lb. dw i l b 2 l l:e r Itobast of the Crowe. for ear doe baba we dNarre we diessesteor. the ~me of esgoodog the dame hew of the 2: List, the sable kid suet be worelesod lbw be bad hearten she Mug-ostalMished ow of he weefity.bp fleierforkig with the = oseeferesofide Majesty. sod Maytag the peoutidea tee the civil ant lobo brought lam she Parilement ewer pear; bet As hiSh lard wed* lad it Minds to beep the divWoa *edam beaus wine was he she eanhe of his Slopety, was to may b eams on ekes* easel wit! what Was oembostod ithla the 'j.