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seize and throw hint into a prison, while alich. man seas allowed to go wherete pleased. l'herlaw itself, indeed, was absurd ; for it could not prevent any who possessed capital going to a foreign country rival our manufactures. He perfectly agreed . t he Chancellor of the Exchequer, tbat England wou, be preferred as a place of residence, and that the to invite the preference would be to reduce prices. In this respect he fully concurred in the views of Ilon. Friend, the Member for Portarlington. Mr. D. BROWN explained ; and the Petition was then brought up, read, and of dered to lie on the table and be printed. SWISS EMBASSY. Mr. WARRE said, that under any circumstances re s hould have deemed it necessary, in rising to ad dress that House, to make an apology fcr offering himself to their attention, but particularly when he ;as bringing under discussion a question of a partial ~at ire. the more general subject having been so ately un ler their consideration. His object in ad -..-lressing them, was ,with a view to procure a reduc tion of one expenditure in the foreign department.— /le would deem it a complete waste of time to la bour then to spew the necessity of such reduction.- 7her, xil , knew the distress ander which the country vas labouring. F.t,sing by then all those topics, he ould come at once to the subject to which he was anxious to direct their attention. -In doing so, it was recessaty to advert to the papers which had been laid on the table. By those papers it appeared, that from the year 1750 to 1783, there were four Ministers Pie ripotentiary to the Swiss Cantons, at a salary of about 1,5701. From 1783 to 1792, the duties of the Enibassy were discharged by Mr. Braun, a Gentle.. man mentioned in last night's debate, in quality of a Charge d'Affaires, at a salary of 250/. a-year. He thought it necessary Co assure the House, that the ch:ect of his motion was not to have an Ambassador now at that salary. In 1786, they would find that things were conducted extremely well, at the small salary of 2501. He could assure the Noble Marquis, that if he alluded to America, he had no notion of subverting the Monarchy in this country; nor did he vi-. 11 to set aside the two higher branches of the Le gislature, on which the Noble Marquis expressed such fears in his speech last night—(Hear, hear). — But when Doctor Franklin was Ambassador from the United States of America to the Government of France, he actually outwitted our Ambassplor, Lord Star riont although Dr. Franklin had a salary of only LOA. a-year. The fact could not be denied, for Lord Stormont had complained to his Government of the reception which Dr. Franklin got. He could see nothing improper in citing the example of America, because it was a Republic. In the next period, which was from 1792 to 1798, the scale of the Embassy was changed, and instead of a Charge d'Affaires, a Minister Plenipotentiary was appointed. But from 1799, to the year 1814, there was no Embassy at all. During all the wars with the Despot of France, when the French Generals and the French armies were overrunning every part of the Continent, there was no mission at all. The next period then was that which became the immediate subject of discussion— namely, train 1814 to the present year. It appeared by some Papers which were laid on the table, that Switzerland became the subject of much diplomatic discussion in the year 1815. Notwithstanding that settlement, the territorial situation of Switzerland was the same which it had been in 1792. The Noble Lord, in his speech last night, asked if there could be any objection to send an Envoy to Bavaria, whose extent of territory had so much increased ? But it did not appear that there was any increase in the extent of the Swiss Cantons. 'The Noble Lord also asked it the House could undervalue the importance of the place, or the quantity of business done there? He (Mr. Warre) could not see the importance of Switzer land. He did not see why any communications from the Swiss Cantons could not be addressed directly and immediately to the Court at home. He could licit see the advantage to this country of having a per son to watch and preserve the neutrality of the Swiss Cantons. But it might be asked why the House did not before object to the arrangement of these foreign mis sions ? He would answer, to shew the consistency of himself and his friends, that when dint subject was before the House, in 1816, they did object to it. He would say farther, that the House was so en grossed at that period, and every Session since, with questions of such importance, that it was net possi ble to bring Honourable Members to direct their at tention to those matters. He would ask, while the subject of the Liturgy was before the House, whe. the , Hon. Members could moot any other question in that House? In the years 1816 and 1817, the Clouse was debating on the treatment which Bona parte was to receive. The Corn Laws also, and the Property Tax had been uader the consideration of the House. He would ask them how it could be ex pected the House would then pay any attention to the present subject? They were taken up in 1818, 1819, 1820, and 1821, with other questions. After a lapse of several months the new mission, which was the I, subject of complaint, was made out by an arrange ment, or bargain, concluded with' the new allies of Ministers. He said that without any offence to the Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Wynn). He wished to avoid all personal allusions, and he-hoped he would not be charged with any. He would beg to remind the House of the Address of last Session, which was voted to his Majesty for retrenchment and economy.— lie would put his motion on the ground of that Address, and if a good case were made out for dis pensing with this mission, of which be had no doubt, he did not see why it should not be agreed to. The Noble Lord would say that the objection should have been made while the arrangement was before the .House. But the situation of the country, as he said before, did not allow the House to attend to it-then. .111 e Noble Lord himself carried up to the Throne the Address recommending retrenchment, and he could not now act in the face of that rccommondation.— The diplomatic business of Switzerland was done by a Charge d'Affaires for twenty months. The Noble Lord had said that there was no addition to the sa lary of 1792 But it was not only in the sum allowed he differed from the Noble Lord, but he objected to the principle. For the twenty months before the new mission .v.is arranged, Mr. Disbrowe discharged all the , iplomatic duties at a salary of 1:1595 per annum- The new mission was to cost the country i.:4-100 per annum. Taking from that the deduction of ten per cent. it would still remain nearly 1.:2800 more than Mr. Disbrowe had. That was certainly, iu tht these glop Airy bad, risen to such pitch as that Parliament could scarcely withhold its assent from any proposition of Government., But were it possible that the opinions of the House could now be expressed upon some of the questions that were then assented to with acclamations, how dif ferently would they have been disposed of ?—(Hear). It was probable that we would not vote now with the same facility as we did upon that occasion, grants for the maintenance of Dutch fortresses and for Russian loans. Had Parliament but given a cogent hint to the Government on the subject, no doubt the Noble Lord would have found it convenient to have Mr. Disbrow•e as the Minister there. He would not now follow up the allusions of an Hon. Friend of his last night, as to what might be done in Switzerland by the united diplomatic confederation of Europe. He had endeavoured to state his observations temperately, without alluding to persons indeliCately—(Cheers). —The Hon. Gentleman then moved a series of Resoi lutions—(all but the last merely detailed the history of the missions from 1750 down to this time, to the, same effect as in his speech).—To the last Resolution he begged the particular attention of the House, for it was the only substantial Resolution which put the question in issue. It was— " That it appeared to the House that the expenses of the Mis sion to Switzerland might, without detriment to the public ser i vice, be reduced to what they bad been at the appointment of Lord Robert Fitzgerald, and what they had been for one year and eight months preceding the present appointment to that station."—(Loud cheers). —The Hon. Member begged to explain respecting a slight difference between the expenses of Mr. Wickham and Mr. Disbrowe. It was not material enough to I be noticed in the Resolution. The first Resolution being read from the Chair, The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that having stated at some length last night his views of I the general principle that ought to govern the House upon questions of the nature now• before them, he was happy that the clear, intelligent, and liberal statement of the Hon. Member enabled hint to apply himself at once to the particular case under consi deration. He had laid it down last night, and en deavoured to support. his position by such arguinents as the occasion suggested, that the foreign affairs of the country could only be administered by those re• sponsible persons to whom the confidence of the House had been given. • The House had always acted on that view; .and the Committee of 1815, in discharge of their duties, felt it only necessary to enter into the consideration of the Estimates laid be fore them by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, with out thinking themselves justified in inquiry into fur ther details; and if he was nbt prepared last night to adopt the views of the Gentlemen opposite upon the general question, he should be very inconsistent with himself, and the reasoning which he urged last night, if he was prepared to agree with them upon the par-. ticular case; and it was the more incumbent on them to take their stand at that moment, as it was plainly intimated that this was but the first of:a series of si milar motions. :The Hon: Gentleman admitted that Mr. Wynn was in every respect competent to dis charge the duties of the office; but still this motion looked like one of those _party proofs of affection which the Gentlemen opposite did sometimes confer upon those who felt that they would be serving their Sovereign and their country best by taking their seats on this side of the House. He had nothing to com plain of in the conduct of the Mon. Gentleman oppo site ; but he thought that it would not be less neces sary to resist the motion, now that lie understood he was to be called upon to shew cause why we should not cancel our missions to Wirtemburg, Bavaria, and a variety of other places. Here, then, was the place for him to take his post: If the House were right in their opinion, so unequivocally expressed last night, upon the general principle, it must lie evident that it was contrary to the policy and practice of the Con stitution to call upon the Executive Department to suspend its power in favour of a Committee of that House. Such a principle was unknown even iii America, where he believed there was no instance of the President of the United States being called upon for details of expenditure before the grant was voted. The Congress voted large sums to be placed at the disposal of the President, upon the anticipation of an increased diplomatic expenditure in different pro vinces of South America. Did they ask him to furnish his views about the new Government of Mexico or Buenos Ayres? And were they, a British House of Commons, to be less monarchical than the Congress of America? The American was to be the confiding body in their Executive, and England was to be the' distrustful body. It was going a little too far, in deed, to call upon the Executive to shew cause why an increase should have taken place, if it could be proved that the duties of • a particular diplomatic office were ever discharged at a less rate. The Hon. Gentleman founded all his arguments (in the case of Mr. Braun, who discharged the duties of Charge d'Affaires to the Swiss Cantons for £250 a-year. He (the Marquis of Londonderry) owned that he was somewhat surprised at the economical scale of the salary, and was almost about to conclude that this Mr. Braun had been condemned to this situation, as a punishment for some diplomatic delinquency.— ' But curiosity having led him (the Marquis of Loa donderry) to some inquiries about this Gentleman, be found that he was an old Swiss Officer, who had been private secretary to 'Mr. Norton, who left him behind him on his return to England. Why there was no greater charge than two hundred and fifty pounds for nine years he could not tell—(Cheers and laughter). ' He was not able to state what the tone was of the Swiss Cantons towards this country at the time that Mr. Braun acted as Charge d'Affaires; but he was quite sure that the character of the person selected to do the duties of a Minister at a foreign Court watt one of the modes adopted of displaying the feelings of a Government towards the particular Court. It was fair to.state, that Mr. Braun appeared to be a very honest Gentleman, and was well spoken of in 'the letters from Switzerland of the time. But he (the Marquis of Londonderry) was not satisfied that during the early period of the French war Mi. Braun would nothing ► of a complexion to excite alarm for the general inte rests. He sho u ld not h ave gone into - these details ,were it not for the sake of 'hewing that the whole stream of our policy and practice - was in favour of the "present scale of diplomacy. The Noble Marquis then read an extract from the dispatches to the Right Hon. Stratford Canning, dated . 6th August, 1819, in which that Minister was desired to state to the Swiss Cantons that he was to be succeeded in his office by the Hon. Frederick Cathcart, who was then on his way from Denmark ; and the reason why the new Minister did not take the appointment was, that he conceived Mr. Disbrowe, then appointed Charge d'Affaires to Switzerland, was the real successor; and this, with reasons arising out of the ill-health of that Gentleman, prevented the tesidence of a Minister Plenipotentiary for the time alluded to. This was the explanation which be had to give on this subject ; pei haps it would not satisfy the curiosity of some Gentlemen, although he did not know that he had not stated rather more than, in strictness, he ought to have communicated—Waders and laughter). After some further ternaries in illustration of the principle for which he had already contended, the Noble Mar quis expressed his hope that the House would not abandon those paths which conducted their ancestors to power and glory, and pursue principles which ob viously led to the degradation of the country. Lord NORMANBY next rose (amidst cries of “Question, question," so loud that it was impossible from the noise, together with a rush of Members into the side galleries, to hear a single word for some minutes)—and said, that though he contemplated no such effect as the resignation of the Foreign Secre-. tary, Set he still indulged the hope of seeing the Noble Marquis continue in office without that essen tial appendage of a Swiss Envoy, at an expense to the country of £5,000 a-year—(Hear, hear).—He (Lord'Normanby) disclaimed all personal objections. He did not deny the competency of the Gentleman who held that appointment to fulfil the duties, if by any accident duties were imposed on him--(bear). But he did resist the extravagant and extraordinary sAlary which he was to receive. He could not answer the speech of the Noble Marquis, inasmuch as not a word that he had said was applicable to the question in discussion. For what was that large salary granted? —For nothing that he could fancy but to allow the Hon. Envoy to enjoy the rural romance which Swiss scenery afforded, or to indulge those pleasures of a magnificent hospitality to which the Noble Marquis, in his speech of last night, had attributed such diplo matic importance. Seeing the impatience of the House, he should not take up their attention longer, as, in truth, the Noble Marquis had made no answer to the speech of his Hon. Friend (Mr.Warre). Mr. N.VARRE rose to reply, but not a single ob servation that he made reached the gallery. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY then rose to say that he trusted the Resolutions would be put seriatim. On the first seven Resolutions he should move the previous question ; the last he should meet with a decided negative. The first seven Resolutions were then read from the Chair : the previous question was moved and carried on them. On the Bth Resolution the House divided— nuarylast.—Leave was given to bring in tbeilltlit TEIR COLLECTMN OF TiIIiCARVE ..*. • - ' The CH ANC ELLOR of theEXCHEQU lt memo for leave .to bring in a Bill to extend the paw e d of NIIIi the Commissioners for inquiring into the Bireetate 4f Ireland to England. u . Mr. HUAlE,hoped, the inquiry would be eAton44l6 to the Barrack DepartMent irtlreland. Mr. WALLACE said, that the great object ettbe Commissioners would he to inquire into the iviAle collection and management of 'the Revenue of 4so United Kingdom ; and they were not to receive oaf increased salary for their additional labour,. tulle* Parliament, in its liberality, should think.'fit here after to make them some remuneration. ' .Leave was,given. The Bill was then broughtin and read a firkt time. Second reading on' Mothiett. The other Orders were then disposed of, and,thillitaige ..., : • --..v. adjourned at Half-past Eleven. .. mss._ . 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The dfference be- with '. filliutierisan in the insertion tis t it *Anises ,r; Atist-repsseU b alliethe did nit:slake and tween the expeisse of the L iaent mission Mid' the sa- lion shriuld, not te keat up unless Where . ere ten a charge; but merelialesired that he might not be with lary allowed to the l a t e Cha rge d'Aff a i r e s exceeded active (Niteroi* to keep thensetibeigkeugarld. considered aip_ledr_ged to Ore liikappirebation. 1 would the allowince o f t h e L or d s o f t h e Adm i ralty, or the One of t he grew objects of establistiNg it Midente ' Mr.GRA'rfAN thoughtgrentihinteWaviltputas e way allowance of the Postmaster-General. The Noble a foourt was, •to cukivate the friendship of that ble, to bii reigne ./dajests:s Ministers, for ha Tiquitolliqtt - srices. Lord reverted to the a r rangements o f 1814 and 1815 C ourt , t o watch its political conduct, and tone that lected to haquireassto.the distre sses of ItelaiW,' of his with peculiar pl easure , b ecause t h ese were periods t h ere should be nothin g i n t h e counc il s o f t h e cou n try were we ll k now n.tolave existed so f ar b as k sa laa t . when the g l or i es o f t h e country b a d r i sen to suc h a o f a consplezion to excnealarin for the general lute- nuarylast.—Leave was g i v e n to b ring in sheath .),. n was pitch as that Parliament could scarcely withhold its rests. He should not have gone into Uses. details . TEM COL,LECTIOW OF rnz -1111tVENtrc.. TheCHANCELLOROf the.EXCHEQga rocteasi :table assent from any proposition of Government... But were it not for the sake of 'hewing that the whole . . . were it possible that the opinions of the House could stream of our policy and practice - was in favour of fo r leave .to bring in a Bill to extend the powers of now be expressed upon some of the questio n s that the present scale of diplomacy. The Noble Marquis the .Commissioners for inquiring into the •RessenueOf tances were then assented t o w i t h acclamations,. how dif- then read an extract from the dkpetches 40 the Right Ireland to England. Ys ,to ad- ferently would they h a ve been disposed of?.—(Hear). Hon. Stratford Canning, dated6th August, 1819, in Mr. HUAlE,hoped the inquiry would be exenstisik Fering It was probable that we would not vote now with the which that Minister was desired to state to the Swiss- to the Barrack Departnient irrlreland. „ en he same facility a s we did u p on t h at occas i on , grant s for cantons that he was to be succeeded in his o ffi ce by Mr. WALLACE said, that the great object etthe partial the maintenance of Dutch fortresses and for Russian the lion. Frederick Cathcart, who was then on his ten so loans. Had Parliam en t b ut g i ven a cogent hi nt to way f rom Denmark ; and the reason why the new Commissioners would he to inquire into th e isiAlis collection and management of the Revenue of aso in ad- the Government on the subject, no doubt the Noble Minister did not take the appointment was, that he United Kingdom ; and they were not to receive OW reduc- Lord would have found it con v en i ent to have Mr. conceived Mr. Disbrowe, then appointed Charge increased salary for their additional labour,. tulle* cut.— Disbrowe as the Minister there. He would not now d'Affaires to Switzerland, was the real successor; and Parliament, in its liberality, should think.'fit here- to la- follow up the allusions o f an Hon. Friend of his last this, with reasons arising out of the ill-health of that . after to make them some remuneration. ion.— night, as to what might be done in Switzerland by Gentleman, prevented the residence of a Minister Leave was given. The Bill was then brotightin country the united diplomatic confederation of Europe. He Plenipotentiary for the time alluded to. This was the and read a first time. Second reading on - Monday. 11 , A ics, he had endeavouredto ste ers his observations temperately, explanation which he had to give on this subject;— The other Orders were then disposed of, andthifflosist ..:...:. , -..ar It he was without alluding to p ns i n delic a tely— ( Cheers ). pethaps it would net satisfy the curiosity of some adjourned at Half-past Eleven. .. it was —The Hon. Gentleman then moved a series of Re . Gentlemen, although he did not know that he had . S. . . en laid lutions—(all but the last merely detailed the history not stated rather more than, in strictness, he ought - •• It from of the missions from 1750 down to this time, to the to h ave commun i cated —(Cheers and laughter). After BRITISII CONSULS, rs Ple- same effect as in his speech).—To the last Resolution some f urt h er ternar i es i n ill u stration of the principle • 1 ' ary of he begged the particular attention of the House, for f or w hi c h h e b a d a l rea d y contended, the Noble Mar- TO THE EDITOR OF TIIE STAR. of the it was the only substantial Resolution which put the quis expressed his hope that the House would not As the business of the Cctisuls has been mention* . 3entle- question in issue. It was— : ? abandon those paths which conducted their ancestors in Parliament, give me lea ve toaskafew Paper. questions • ', lity of "That it appeared to the Hcuse that the expenses of the Mis- to power and glory, and pursue principles which ob- on that subject, throng y our . im p artial ,. . Have not the fees levied by the Consuls in the r. He skin to Switzerland might, without detriment to the public a viously led to the degradation of the country. iat the ser- vice, be reduced to what the/ had been at the appointment Mediterranean . on our shipping .. been so high,. that .. ik )., Lord Robert Fitzgerald, an what they had been for one year Lord NORMANBY next rose (amidst cries of instances Sardinian, instead of Bnush shins; issador and eight months preceding the present appointment to that “Question, question." so loud that it was imonssible many .;.: vl.'.: • . . .. . . , . ' . • - . .• _ man I eyes Of soma ' ' Ettillpj latttilsa Noble Lord have been so fit a tutee for this Government / •- ' In rd to what • itself, himself had that any min t however. Iciirtrib'w ' iselkeitseilaidi! 111041 d not egift 1 jaw l O, ' • '''' .' 5r man sniall, vass not beneath the's-noti ce , The difference be- with. filentierivan in the saisartion tir filhesi .i: Asuriplied; aitiethe did nii-mate ry and twain the expense of the pyment mission Mid the sa- sion shpuld, not fke hex up noises Veber, ere wee a charge; but olerTli.lesired that he might not be with lacy allowed to the late Charge trAffeires exceeded actives mpleysesi ot i o iiee utsmbempfitepgagsd. considered aigeliged to giVe lili'apprebation. would the allowance of the Lords of the Admiralty, or the One of the greal objects p o t sablishNg h Waident ft ' IIr.GRA'riAN thoughtgreatiPaftewavithpetal ie way allowance of the Postmaster.eveneral. The Noble a foreign Court was, 0 cukivete thefriendship of that ble, to Xi Majesty:a Ministers, for firing io leg prices. Lord reverted t o t h e arrangements o f 1814 end }Bl5 Court, to watc h i ts political conduct, and to see that lected to ituptire,ugo•the distreraes of fielaiW,' - of his with peculiar plea sure , b ecause t h ese were periods there thottld be nothing in the councils of the country were well known tole,. existed so far bask .se a. when the g l or i es o f t h e country b a d r i sen to suc h a of a completion in ..........a.... r.....i.- ______i :..._ _____ '1... T ....-- --- • - . . BRITISH CONSULS.. • • TO THE EDITOR OF THE STAR.• As the business of the Ccrsuls has been mention* in Parliament, give me leave to ask a few questions on that subject, through your impartial Paper. • Have not the fees levied by the Consuls in the Mediterranean on our shipping been so high, that . ill many instances Sardinian, instead of Bntish ships, . •` have been employed by our Merchants ? . Could not the office have been discharged grattii tously at 'Archangel, and prang other ports, so as tia save £BOO a year paid at that port? If it is feared that this would give a superiority of interest to one Merchant, might not the office be held in rotation by those who chase to undertake it? Were not the fees so enormous at ItioJaneiro, that a remonstrance was sent to the Ministry ? Did they not very properly wake a considerable reduction But did not .a Noble Lord, whose friend held the. office, have influence enough to restore . the figs to their original magnitude? If these reports are well founded, will not the Ad ministration, who, I firmly believe,_ are desirous of doing everything that is right, as far as they possess independence, take decisive measures to redress the evil ? Your's, MERCA TOR. PROPOSED NEW SYTEM OF THE POOR LAWS. In the last Number of the Monthly Magazine there is a sensible and well-written article on the mutual obligations of the two classes of society, the rich and the poor, in which the writer proposes the following " Plan of an Equitable and Beneficial System of Poor Laws:" 1. Th s at vestries, or guardians of the poor, shall be empowered in every parish to build as many cottages, of four rooms, with at least a rood of garden-ground, held as parish estates, as sh accommodate, at easy rents, the married labourers and artizans of the parish, as free tenants; the money to be raised on the security of the poor-rates, and the moderate rents to be applied in liquidating the principal and interest. • • 2. And also, that commissioners of roads shall build cartage', of four rooms, on the site of every mile-stone, for the residence of labotriers on the roads, each provided with at least a rood of garden, with right of common. 3. To extend the free and unrestrained market for labour, to equalize the rates, and remove the jealousies, disputes, and suits of parishes, it is proposed to enact,. that the rates of all' the parishes in every county shall be consolidated, and the flands appropriated, as required, by overseers or vestries. 4. 'fo enable the artizan and labourer to carry his skill and industry to the most productive market, it is proposed to repeal all the laws 'of settlement; and, at the same time, to enable the dispensers of public bounty to discriminate between industrious and idle travellers, it is proposed that every housckeeper,-Vrho has employed any artizan or labourer for three or more days, shall certify the simple fact,- with the date and period ; and this . certificate shall serve as a protection within the county for three • months; but, if the artizan or labourer purpose to leave the county, then such certificate shall be verihed by the signature and seal of a Justice of the Peace. 5. Let an asylum for the sick, helpless, and -aged poor, be provided us every parish or hundred, and at this asylum let all travelling artizans and labourers, who have a certificate, be pro, vided with lodging when be requires it, and with one g ood meal of soup or pottage within the day. 6. Every such asylum should be provided with a department for employing at low wages those who had obtained no certificate for three months, and whose certificate hall been undersigned at more than thirty asylums for board and lodging. 7. Every parish should be provided with a Benevolent Fund, to be aided, as far as netessary, by the rates, the terms of whkch should be, that for every pound deposited by working artizans and labourers, or servant women, the parties should, at the end of seven years, on not more than twenty pounds, be entitled to 45. per annum for life; at the end of a reserved fourteen years, to Bs. per annum ; at the end of twenty-one years to 12s. per annum ; at the end of twenty-eight years, to 2.05. per annum ;. and at the end of thirty-five years, to 30s. per anndm : and, in case of intermediate death, the original sum, with simple interest, should be paid to widows or children. • 8. Every parish should be obliged to plant, in public sitea . tions, one thousand grafted fruit-stocks or trees per annum for seven years, and one thousand every three years afterwards, for every thousand acres contained within the parish. 9. In towns, also, houses might be built, and let at low rates to the married poor; and destitute persons might have a meal per day, and lodging at the poor-house, under the sane limita tions as in the country. 10. Those who, from non-renewal of certificates of employ, , are taken into the employment of the parish, and then refuse to • labour, may be cominitted to the House of Correction, by the warrant of not less than two Justices of the Peace, for limited ' periods ; and those who wander for three mouths after their last certificate has expired, may, on charge of misconduct, he i subjected to similar discipline. For the Resolution Against it - Majority for Ministers RELIEF TO THE IRISH POOR. Upon the re-admission of strangers to the gallery, Mr. GOULBURN was moving for leave to bring in a Bill for the employment of the poor in the most distressed parts of Ireland. The Right Hon. Gentle man stated that it was the object of this Bill to ad; vance a sum of money to be expended in public works where distress was most prevalent. Among these, the making of roads would be a principal mode of applying the funds. It must be obvious to the House that the large tracks of country, offering inadequate means of communication, presented great facility to the commission of crimes. The public works were to be executed solely on the responsibility of Govern- . ment, and the :honey was to be accounted for by them, and he should propose that the estimates should be laid before the Grand Juries of the counties, and left to their liberality to take upon themselves such part of the expenses as they should consider just— (Hear, hear). He had only further to state, that if the House was willing to accede to his proposition' it would afford the greatest practical relief; and the less delay that occurred, the more efficacious, of course, would be the remedy—(Near, hear). Mr. S. RICE said this measure had his entire con- Cut rence, as one of the wisest which could be de vised; and he was sure the Irish Gentlemen would answer the call made upon their liberality. Before he sat down, he must, in the name of the people of Ireland, express his• deep sense of gratitude to the people of this country for the pecuniary relief which had been afforded to his countrymen. It was a proud mark of all that was great and good in the character of Englishmen, and which, he trusted, would be fully responded to by the gratitude of the people of Ireland. Sir E. O'BRIEN added his thanks to his Majesty's Government for the introduction of this Bill. After the relief which irad been remitted by the generosity of the English Public, he was sure Ireland would find that her Union had been one of her greatest blessings. Mr. HUME said the public money could not be The following is an ofiicial Return to an order cf better employed; but he should be glad to hear whe - the House of Common . , of all Ministers sent from Great fiom 1750 to tiler the Right Hon. Gentleman wasreared with Britain to the wiss Cantons, 1783 :—JOHN BARNA a, Esq. AnritUß VILLETTES, an Estimate, and the names of the co u nti e s to which the relief would be afforded? Esq. ROBERT COLEBROOK, Esq. and WILLIAM NOR• Mr. GOULBURN mentioned the counties of Clare, TON, Esq. The above held the rank of 311niiter Pie- Galway, Limerick, and Kerry, and stated the amount nipotentiary, and the salary was £1,572 a year. intended to be advanced was £50,000. A Return, just laid upon the table of tile House Mr. BROUGHAM was fully convinced that .no of Commmis chews the number apd names cf per time ought to be lost in carrying this measure into sons who have been sent out of the count r y under the effect; and while he gave his approbation to it, he operation of the Alien Act, since its re - enactment; begged to be understood as not approving of the con- a ls o, the number of appeals mad e t o the • Pr ivy Conn_ duct of Ministers, in neglectineto inquire at au culler oil upon that subject. The Alien Act was re-enacted period into the distresses of Ireland. • , on the 24th of July, 1820„,and in the two years ill:A • Mr. - GOULBURN :alsored. the. House, that hi; have elapsed since, f keen mat .out should be able toebow.tber!sentaao pound (Sr any a fob persons have 141 247 ~~ "" --- r- _ • 'JAC coßatFrUlitler Ott proviporis.