Star. — London, England, 1808-11-29 00:00:00

- THE EVENING STAR. LONDON. TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 29. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. Consols for money 66f —for Jan. opg. 66+1-omnium Exchequer Bills, 6s. es. prem. AME RICA. . . We mentioned-yesterday the arrival• at Liverpool of r. vessel from America, having broken the Em bargo. The vessel- that has arrived is the schooner Jane, from New York; which.place she left on the 7th instant. She has brought a series of New York PO up to the 4th inst. from which, it ap pears that on the arrival of the Richard; Captain Odiorne, at New York, from Liverpool, on the 22d , of October, considerable expectation had been raised, from a report of war between France andthe United States, that the embargo would be soon withdrawn as to this country ; and extensive commercial specu- Lions had been consequently entered into. This expectation was however of short continuance ; and ve are informed that, when the vessel sailed § it was the prevailing belief, that the Embargo would re main in force. The statements in the later papers (The New Tor; Gazette and General Advertiser) are strongly to this effect. The schooner Hope had ar rived on the 22d of October, with dispatches from France ::nd England, in twenty-six days from Cowes..' The packet of the present month was expected to sail from New York on the 12th instant, direct for Fal mouth. Thc,. following are Extracts from the New-York PiTcrs : NEW-YORK, OCTOBER 22. HIGHLY IMPORTANT. Yec...erday arrived here the fast-sailing barque I Captain Odiorne, in 50 days, from Liver- i pool, and 25 from land to land. Captain V. has f‘tvcared the Editors of the Netv-York Gazette with London papers to the evening cf the 17th ult. inclu si7e. From these papers the leading articles are ex. tracted ; but the news of the most importance is.the following, under the signature of the Cappainhimself a Captain Odiorne informs, that on. the-119th of- September, when beating down Channel,: Mr. Maury, the American Consul at Liverpockl, sent. one of his clerks on board the Richard, who verbally informed Captain of the arrival at Liverpool of an express from Lon a, advising of a declaration of WAR ly ,Fratre agitate& Mita! States of dloserita—and advised Captain • 0. to corn to anchor and insure his vessel in cameras= thereof. Captain 0. has dispatches for Gover men t, which were ordered to be sent off to Washington immediately on his arrival here, or to charter it pilot-boat on his arrival the coast, and run her into the Chesapeake with the dispatches. 14 Captlin 0. also informs, that in consequence of the importance at the dispatches, he beat out of the Channel with a heaciwiocl. (Signed) creel." Admitting (what is a pretty broad allowance) that the appearance of the pamphlet alluded to is evidence of the intention of the British Ministry to adhere to their Orders against France, even if France should repeal her Decrees, it does not follow that such a re solution can prevent an adjustment between Great Britain and the United States, unless it can be shewn that France will abolish her Decrees. There is no evidence that the French Government " JOAN ODIORNE." "On the above no comment on. our part may he deemed neces sary. The facts as stated by Captain Odiorne speak for them selves. We are inclined to believe this War-News, because, we know (if our Government Papers are to be believed) that the ul timatum to the French and English Governments, went out in the schooner Hope. The Hope arrived, at Falmouth on the IGth of August, landed a messenger with dispatches, proceeded, and ar rived at Havre-de-Grace on the 18th. Hew lorg she staid there, 'tvill do so. we know not, but we find from Lloyd's List, tl,at she arrived at Cowes on the 14th September from Havre. Mr. Pinckney's dis patches, received by the Richard, are dated on the cover the leths two days after the arrival of the Hope from France. It is therti fore highly probable, that the determination of Bonaparte to go to war with the United States, was received from Mr. Armstrong by the Hope, which induced Mr. Pinckney to lose no time Cr exertions to get off the Important dispatches, which were received by Captain Odiorne from the American Consul at Liverpool, on the morning of the 19th of September, the time of the ship's railing. The dispatches were forwarded by yesterday's mail o Washington." The proposition of the, United States to Great Bri tain relates solely to the question between the British and eurselves. If the English Ministry will repeal their Orders with respect to us, we will abrogate the Embargo with respect to them. If France will not annul her Decrees, we will still enforce the Embargo against Frznce. seined to Me. Canning a nteiperlid; vatic* piker ti ! Amp) tied Ann-Tinnita—By• publidling ate t rot some *iliweeksoblpigeastmanimyynßenepseubs tixtte gl e gedepett subject oF the Orders in Council. and the Embargo upon such a basis, as to leave Great Britain dor • .. ,, ea, - (Signed) J. a. TIM EMBARGO WILL. Ba RAlsan. , of any j ust cause for the continuance of the former., i , In obedience:to his instructions, it is said he hat firm . lien made in articles usually exported to Great Bri. urged in an amicable and very respectful, though lipecc43nulat7oncshahnats.ve manner, the propriety of the abrogation. of those Or . tain and her dependencies, to Spain and•Portugal.and dens, on the ground, that at they were issued en the their dependencies, on a fair presumption that the ern. supposition that the United States liad not resisted bargo would be raised on the meeting of Congress. the French Decree, and the AmericaftGovernrnent i This spirit of speculation has been increased from the consoling language of the public pape rs p rinted under 1 having proposed to enforce the Em bar g o a g ainst ; the e France if she will not abrogate her Decrees , and to ' ye of our Administration , hold i ng u p the idea. annul its operation against the British if they will : that all was going on well between the G overnments repeal their, Orders, there no longer rem ains any lof Great Britain and that of. the United States. As cause for the existence of the Orders of Counc il, at i y et ' we have seen nothing to discourage the specula -1 dons. here spoken of, though the arrival of the Hope any rate witlyregard to the United States. ;gives no Mr. Pinckney, we understand, has very ably and ' hope, of either England or France remo vin g their Decrees against neutrals. E ven if the Ho p e conclusively combatted.the idea that the United States did,not resist the Berlin decree. He represe ntedthat : had brought positive news of the r e scindin g of the Bri General Armstrong, our minister at Paris, had de. tish Orders in Council , which was a few da y s since manded an explanation from the French Government I expected, our situation.relative to the ra i s in g of the as soon as the decree made its appearance, and had . Embargo would not, in our good opinion , have been. altered ; for though the prospect of its being raised received assurance that it was not meant to- apply to ; would certainly have been more apparent, in reality America ; and that for twelve months afterwards no it would make no difference as to the prop riet y of condemnation had taken place under the Berlin de - raising the embargo ; for, suppose the British Orders tree, the first case being that of the Horizon, which removed, we could send no vessels to France, Hot was not known .in England when the Orders of Conn. land, Italy, or the Baltic, or any place under the do cil were decided upon ; and that the American Go ruination of France. It is therefore of no consequencet vernment, as soon as it had understood the French to us, whether the Orders in Council are rescinded or Kerr proceeding to act upon the decree against the United States, opposed the encroachment by the Embargo. The British Cabinet had taken the Memorial into consideration, and an answer was expected by Mr. Pinckney in the course of a tew days. By the return of the Hope, which, from her being a swift sailer, may be expected in a very few days, our Government will be made fully acquainted with the result ; so that, on the meeting of Congress, if not before, we shall be enabled to inform the Public of the final determina tion of the British Government, upon which will de pend, in a great measure, the future dispositions of onr own. The probability is in favour of an amica ble adjustment of , differences. - OcTOELit `.—The following Article is copied from Mr. Madison's Paper of Tuesday last ; and as it is in answer to a Paragraph in Mr. Jefferson's Paper, it will be considered interesting. FROM Tin , . lioNlTon. The Editor of the National Inkiligencer, in announ• cing the arrival of the last Dispatches from our Mi nister at London, concludes his statement with the following remark : " There is, however, one circumstance that may produce some doubt of an early accommodation, to wit ; the recent appearance of a pamphlet, attributed to a ministerial M. 14 in which it is maintained to be the interest of Great Britain still to continue her Or ders, notwithstanding France should repeal her De- not. If the Embargo is raised, itwill be because the first cause of laying it is removed, and because the second cause never will be removed. To be more explicit, the Embargo was laid, first, to get home the property that was abroad. This object has been as far accom plished as it ever will be. The property still abroad has been unwarrantably laid hold of by Bonaparte and Co. and there remains no hope of recovering it. The first object of the embargo is then accomplished. l The second r.:.tson for laying the Embargo was, to humble the belligerents, or to starve them into com pliance. As we find, from ten months' experiences that they never can be starved or humbled, then, ofl course, THIS reascn for the Embargo also fails. Nei': ther Frl.nee nor England will be the first in te. moving their Decrees. What then is more reasona ble than to suppose, that the embargo will be raised, very soon after the meeting of Congress ? For our parts, we are astonished that any man of common sense can believe for a moment that the Embargo will continue. Besides the above, there are numerous other tea. sons for raising the Embargo ; one of which is that the measure is a very unpopular one, as has been evinced by the late elections. It may be said with truth, that if, at the time, it was supposed that the voting for a Democrat, would be the cause of conti nuing the Embargo, there would not have been a single Democratic Candidate returned in a single. town in the Union—so unpopular is the Embargo.. To close, our Cabinet, not being unchangeable, and must raise the Embargo. Therefore the pur+ chase of produce, the loading of ships, and the ship ping of seamen, may go on without interruption. NEW-YORK, OCTOBER 29. The following remarks on the dispatches received from Mr. Pinckney, by the Richard, are copied from Mr. Madison's Monitor. The reader is requested to con. crest this language with that published in the same 1 paper just previous to the termination of the elections in Pennsylvania and New Jersey; at which time this Isame Moniteur-man endeavoured to convince his readers that there was no doubt of a speedy settle nsent with Great Britain. This same fellow may DOW tell the truth, or he may lie—one is as probable as the other. It is, however, a fact, that by his lately holding up the idea that the differences with England would soon be adjusted, while it was con sidered by many to be a base electioneering trick, thousands of others commenced their commercial operations, on an expectation of the Embargo being soon raised ; who will, if he now tells the truth, be ruined. For such conduct he deserves the public exe cration. France, it is thought, will not relax her decrees ; and the consequent enforcement of ,the Embargo against her on our part, is, to all intents and purposes, placing France in the same situation with regard to us, as the Orders place her. Hence, unless France will rescind her Decrees, (and it is thought she will not) the British can have PROM TIIX WASHINGTON MONITOR. no pretext on that score to resist the amicable propo- Government have received dispatches from Mr. sition of our Administration ; and the conclusion Pinckney, our Minister at London, of the date of drawn by the Editor of the National Ini.elligencer i September 14. At that period he had not received does not hold good. the expected answer to his representations to the Bri- But suppose, after the proposal on our part to raise fish Government. the Embargo, Great Britain should reject the offer, It would seem, from all we can learn, that. the and resolve at all events to continue her Orders in I I Cabinet of St. James is resolved not to furnish iti Council, would not that be 1 confession in the face of 1 reply, by which it shall commit itself with our Co. the whole world, that all the reasons assigned by the vernment, either one way or the other, before it is too English Government to oursifor imposing the Orders, late for the intelligence to reach this country previ were hollow and insincere ? • ously to the termination of the presidential election: His Majesty (said Mr. Erskine, in substance), has i and further, that Great Britain is influenced to such issued the Orders in Council because you have not t i strange conduct, by the expectation of an insurrection' resisted the French Decrees. , in the United States, which she is led to believe will But we have resisted, and we will resist more . occur from the supposition that the people of this pointed, says our Executive. country will not submit to the embargo when the The reason, of course, falls with the British, and ports of Spain and Portugal are known to be open to they must repeal their Orders, or admit that they have I them. And this policy Great Britain adheres to, no pretence for enforcing them against us. 1 notwithstanding famine is staring her in the face ! Therefore the probability is, that there will be an The citizens of United America will know how to adjustment of differences; and if there is not, the ' appreciate and how to meet such conduct on the part universe will bear testimony, that the Administration of the English. If a foreign power is to choose a has exhausted every means that could be devised for president for us, there is an end to independence. conciliating the British Government ; which, in ' NEW YORK, OCTOBER 31. truth, will be as conclusive with the people of the } The Administration papers, received by Tester. United States as an adjustment itself, of the sincerity day's mail, breathe the most deadly hostility to of their Government to preserve peace, and give vent England. t o commercial enterprize. THE GAZETTE. • be following Articles are from the Washington Ps of the 19th instant : rnost THE NATIONAL iiirrworsom. P atches have, we understand, been received by our Covernment from Mr. Pinckney, as late as the I 6th of September. At that time our affa'rs h 1 England wore nearly the same aspect as on the de- I p rture of the St. Michael. A definitive answer was I soon t weeted from the British Government to the : propos ..on made on our part to suspend the embargo I r s respects England, on her rescinding her Or ders in Council, so far as they respect us. A s the ! Hope was daily soaked for in England on her return 1 from France, she may su(ai he expected with the an - - swer. There is, however, one circumstance that may ; produce some doubt t,:f as e.aly acccinniodation, viz.) the recent appearance of a parntlilet, attributed to a Ministerial Member of Parli:lmcnt, in which it is maintained to be the interest of Great Britain still to continue lier Orders, notwithstanding Fiance should repeal her Decrees. - - ------- FROM THE MONITOR. Dispaches from Mr. Pinckney, our Minister at London, which arrived at New York in the British packet Lord Chesterfield, reached the Department of State yesterday. We understand, that the relations between the Bri tislrGovernment and that of the United States remains much in the same situation that they did at the time of the st. Michaels leaving England. Mr. Pinckney had, however, in a manner.w.hjich reflects great credit upon himself auk lustre upon our Government, pre. The paper of the 4th instant ctmtaiasani ntemtil , .speech of the Governor of the State of New.Y 'livered on the Ist inst. to the Legislature State, convened at Albany, for the purpo se nating the Electors who were to make choice sident and. Vice-President ; and which spee c h dedly. favours the continuance of the Embargo, Governor informs the Legislature, that up to dates of arrivals from Europe, no change.; of the Belligerents towards America hadtakea 'He recommends to all ranks to rest the most • 1 confidencein the Government. That, in his ( a continuance of the Embargo was preferable -but that even war, ifi unavoidable, was k to a renewed' fitercourse with the Belligere nts 4, the existing circumstances. The Legislature had elected' for their Speak er , Wilkens (understood to be of the Republi can . by a majority of 60 to 45. On the article of 22dOctober, we can ont, that either the American Consul at. Liverpool have acted underaome . hasty impression, - ODIORNE must have mistated what he Said some recollection, however, that about another American Captain, from a F• brought• a rumour of the kind alluded.to article. Respecting the above arrival, a Li , pondent writes us as follows :. " LIVE RPOOI " Inclosed I send you extracts of /kit pers l[see above] received here last schooner hug, after a passage of, I believe, days, with a cargo of turpentine and cotton. " It is generally supposed here that she' President's Message to Congress, and has had so short a passage as 16 days, possible; but the Captain denies it, althout mits he left Norfolk on the 10th instant has not a Virginia Newspaper ! 'There mysterious in this." We hoped that the Mails of this momingindl have removed some of the contradictions whichsri apparent in the accounts received yesterda• mouth, respecting the news brought TOR from Spain. No farther acccunts however have we are apprehensive that the scepticism to prevail yesterday towards evening, • correctness of the accounts received is perhaps too well founded. Some stated, that the MEDIATOR came from small port between Santander and from Santander :—all of them stated dispatches. The latter circumstance correct. If Santano was the port could hardly bring dispatches, no Eni, sioner being there. Had she come from she would probably have brought ' vernment. It was therefore, probabl• that she left on the 17th instant, We shall only remark at present, reasons for,doubting the correctness received yesterday, a strong presumpti furnished, that the accounts reported received at Lugo, on or before the " plete defeat of General BLAKE'S arm: tor, could such an event have been kni the 18th, it would have reached S.; Lander before the Mediator sailed. state of uncertainty, the public will their opinion till some direct intal; GOTTENBURGH MAIL. The Beufoy, Captain Nonais, has arri• with. The accounts by this Mail state before prepared to hear. The Prussian from which the French troops have been for some time, will•be entirely evacuated byticr the middle of next month. The KIM; of Psco expected to return to Bei lin by the 15th or 16 61 December. The following is the lint British Cavalry that was di to advance: November 15, to Ectanzos 16, Cabello Forto «a; ... Saint ontla Lugo 19,... Bute 110, ...1 tibrado 21, ..Lomegules ir d - From Corunna to Li From Lugo to Villa From Villa Franca tg. A letter from an Officer command of Sir DAVID B. 15th instant, states, that for march the next day, and Astorga, for the arrival o, from Portugal. He menu means badly, but that tht treble the ♦alue for articles British Officers experierce4 attention from all ranks. ' a report, that two Spanish sence of death, having been betray the Spanish army. traitorous service, is said dollars. His Mantsrit has accepted ferley Volunteers, to serve The 2d Battalion of the 96th " from Hungerford to Bexhill, where the 7th of Decemher. Upwards of SOO of the Yarmouth entered into the Local aaintevestia, ew.York, d!. attire of that 1r -pose of no m , choice of P r spe d b ntharg o , up to thelot ett • 4 ! in theCOndo ct • Uhaken PlaCt most f tnp r ict in his opik t. !ferable to I tr was prefers 4 iger eatamtat hen , , . . .e d it Speaker, bi t an üblican per,; .re . i ude in only tenal. ,,, , • ere Liverp oo l at lb fts i oc Captak ile said webat Fort bout that time a French p er , 1-1 140 in the abo ve Ira tad, Offi( iverpool N am . 18th WOOL, Not tr . Ind F New York Pa. OEII st night by the b t, i , believe, only bi mti d cotton. boa at she brings d i p et and if the ink rc a foul al ys l then ougibea : har hay stant, and l c k p r o here is goo* we 11 . 2 i wii sterday from ft. g ;ht by the M Ctc re reached us, al icism which beg f r , tg, respecting to wt din the momir th me of the lette t° f from Sanrano ; ° dc id Bilboa), cabs Ca rd that she brou , vv; ce proves to be is or t she laude, 1 2- English Corals• wl e from St. An ar dispatches fer al riy, were MO , ' pi I :Lei S 1 rl:6 s tn:e a k nown BtaPd rk aett t hbl'lt:thor n :Cc f o rea at ha . tht:Sathe ati vt l lealere . n rc a ti: oi td v C:ll2l Z. In the p • 11 a do well tos IP genre shall MAIL. has arrived at ti state what we Prussian do • d ve been wi ' b of march imanata c 1; ,sembarked at Corso I November 22, to F ........ 23, VA ! Jt 24, ifik ..... 25, P 06, M 27, ... MK* st ....... 48, lick r .ugo is 50 Miles. L Franca is 40 Wes. to Astorga is 4 0 Miles. '7 T with the army a BAIRD, dated C hey were to comm that they were to of Sir JOHN MOORI'S 3 ltions that they fated I hey were compelled a 4 es of every descriptiaa ced the utmost Cifiliq 4 The same letter i sh Generals were Oa f en detected in an a 1 . The bribe offered fr i 1 to have been SO, epted of the offer cg s ye as Local Militia. I he 96th 'Regiment a . 1 hill, where they will e Yarmouth Volunteer hat hai Pr° ttle 7