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ncxt Meeting of the TnitlecK for rutting 13 :‘,:.:ticn the feve:al of Pat-hat - lent, t.m tcrAiri , T, the iT:Jtvir.iTslnty..ern Tyhurn and L'abrid;:c, in the c.,unty of h1 , (11clIt es ; and for amending the Krzi !radio::: from Brent ov,r I icnwc Heath, thrc,J,,:, the ill. so: SCA' Berta - 5.)7.1. aod to th. Gr.at Wyttrn Ro:Al th,. laid Coutity....!.l :Or othcmycep ,, f..s.witt h. I,eld the of Jonas Fos, the Old I L:. in the parifit of Ealing. on 5.0ur.:.1) . the yth u y of .Ipril, 18.7,3, at .kvcn o'clock in ch.: Forci.out. prcLifs.y. C. 1 - 111.1., Clerk. _ _ riiRLLIMENTAItr PRUCEEDINGS. FTOO3r OF LORDS, FIODAY, APRIL. r, Erfki:l; at Bar, as lourt6 I 'or the ttt :ha C'Sandos'l ale Caufe--defcrred far her hearing until N:orday. tiestcr I &as wen: bror!lit op from the Cotnrnons by Mr. Banard and other Mrtolwrs, the titles of which being read, the were ordered to lir vron the 'fable. Lori WA E.SINGHAM reported from the Commit tee of yeilerday, the cI.FRGY prstorscE BILL. The Loam CH ASCI. ttos having put the queflion, g. that ti!e Hotife do r.grce in this refolution," Lord CARLISLE role to date his fentiments upon the fubjeet. He fully agreed in the prong ob• jeflions expreffed by Noble Lords again( the fur penlitm of law', bzcatife fuch fufper.rions, gene rally fpcaking, were but too apt to remove the land-limas of public juilice. Still he could not coincide with dank. Noble Lords who had declared their intention to vote againil any farther fufpen lion of the law of Henry VIII. beyond the Bth of July, cv..uu though no other Bill of regulation on Lis falujed thould be brought forward within that period. The Le"iflature, convinced of the fere city with which that flatute bore on many dekrv ing men, and the opprellions to which it expofed them, had paffed thole Bills of Sufpenfior with a view to afford them fhelter, until there was time to brine , forward an adequate Bill upon the fub jed; and e even though that Bill fhould not be brought forward in the courfe of the prefent fef lion, it would be hard, by fuffering the revival of an obnoxious law, to visit the confequences upon that deferving clafs of men, whom it had been the unanimous defire of Parliament to proted, and to whom the delay certainly was not imputable.— He, therefore, would not, upon loch account, join in the refnfal of fuch a fulpenl;on, if it fliouid ap pear neceffary ; at the fame time he molt ftncerely hoped, and wiffied, that the Bill intended might be brought forward in time, to preclude fuch a neceffity. Lord ARDEN, in allulion to fomething which had fallen in debate lalt night, laid, he could not conceive why this Houk should wave its right of deliberation, fo far as tacitly to admit fuch a doc trine as that laid down by fome Noble Lord, that this Houle had not a right to deliberate upon this, or any other fubjed, and to originate a meafure of competent remedy in the prefent cafe, to which the Honk of Commons, without furrendering any of its privileges, might affent. He had been many years a Member of the Houk of Commons, and no man more highly refpeded their privileges than he did. He had but lately come from that Houfe; but he had no notion that the Houk of Lords was to be reduced to fuch a cypher in the Confli tution, as to fit with folded arms awaiting fuch a meafure on this fubjed,as the Houfe of Commons in its difcretion and leifure might think proper to fuggefi, without allowing this Houk the privi lege of amendment or alteration. The important debate which took place lall night upon this fub. jea, and threw upon it fo many effential lights, /moved the competence of that Houfe to originate au efficient meafure; and fure he was that a Noble and Learned Lord oppofite to him, if he would affume the talk, was as fully competent as any Member of any Houle, to digeft a proper Bill upon the lubjed, which it was going rather too far why this Houfe had not a right to originate. Lord AucKLAND coincided with the Noble Lord who Taft (poke, in the competence of this Houfe to originate an efficient Bull on the fubjed ; and expreiltd his apprehenfions that no Bill would come up from the other Houk upon the fubjel in the course or the prefent legions, though no man was more confcious than he was, of the ability and competence of the Honourable and Learned Per fon, in whole hands the tack was, to bring it for ward in the moil petfed form. The multiplicity of nis avocations, however,liad fo far impeded the 1:1(1i:cis as he feared left no hope of its being com pleated this leffions. It had been aficed, why the Members of a Reverend Bench, who are appa ll ren tl y the moil proper authority of all to originate fuch a Bill, aided as they were by multifarious learning, ecclefiaflical and civil, did not bring it forward? He underflood that that Reverend Bench had infurmountable feelings of delicacy in framing a Bill that was to give power to themtelves. He owned that he could not enter into the fpirit of that feeLng, though he admitted every man mull be the belt judge of his own motives. He would, howe ,, er, acknowledge, that he felt the ftrongeft anxiety that Dime Bill thould come forward on the fohjea. He was for giving ecclefiallical power where it fhould reft with the church, and not for extending ecelefiaftical jurifdiaion to the Civil Power s He had two principles in view; one was, that the parifhes in this kingdom fhould be duly fcrved by their parochial Clergy ; and that th.tt Clergy fhoulci have due proviflnn. On thin point he ti,:reed with the Noble Lord behind him (Lord Catiol.) ; but fo necrfTary in his mind was it, to hi... 4; forward tome lull on the fubjeci before it •vas too late in the farm), t! it if the Noble and Learned Lord near him (Lord Ellcnborough) or other Noble Peer more competent than he hitnfilf was to the talk, did not bring forward f.me loth Bill very fhortly after the approaching reef', he would pledge himfeli to lay on their r...fhips' table his fentimenti, in the thape of a P.a, urn the fobjett, confident that however im errvet the tricafure might be, comitig from hi,. ha,:..;s, it ii:ly warred to be ori7inated by force per;. n, their Lirdrh;pa' WitILIOIn was amply competent to give it filch a los m as would induce the good fenfe r.f the lloufe of Common% to con true a mocie of giving it their affent, without any of thofe privileges which they al;:rt. le t%is vurpofe he fhould hop: for the and of the No. arland hint Tile LAD CH ANC !Am% raid, he fhoald be el trtmely ferry to think that any thing which fell from him in the courfe of yellerday's debate, thould be fuppofed to warrant fuch a conftruaion as, that he thought or afferted that that Houle had not a right to deliberate upon every fubjed. His only , bjeCtion was, that the Bill, if originated here, would contain certain matters, which would ren der it liable almoa to the moral certainty of a re icaion in another Houle. He would , ecommend the Noble Lord who fpoke fall, to patde before he called upon a Noble and Learned Lord near him (Lord Ellenborough) to pledge hind - elf to bring forward a meafure of fuch complicated and extol live confideration, arduous as were the duties of his fizaation, which left him but little leifure in , deed for a talk In wcigh:y. However, if that No ble Lord was dopored to pledge himfelfto the talk, the fmall portion of leifure which he was allowed I by the dirties of his fituation, fhould be chearfully devoted to the Noble Lord's Alliance. The No ble Lord himfelf, who fpoke lall, had pledged , himfelf to originate the meafure, if nobody elle I did. In the Noble Lord's hands, he was lure it would be formed with great wildom ; and, if the Noble Lord would accept his humble affiliance, it [horrid be chearfully given to the belt of his I judgment. Lord ELLE NLOROUGH laid, that be would rather decline pledging himfelf to the Wines, and per -1 form it without loch pledge, titan undertake, in the firft inll.ince, a talk, Which the nature of his very arduous duties in another department, might render it impraelicable for him to perform. With rcfpca to the mere objet of fecuring a due per formance of parochial duty on the part of the Cie' , b y, that was a Pimple talk, and early provided for : but a very different . fort of difficulty attended the great and important objeet of fecuring mainte nance and comfort for the poorer Clergy ; partly by enabling them to farm their Glebes, under cer tain reftr:Clions, In fir as to aid in the maintenance of their horifholds, (which was one of the objets of the Bill al:eady under preparation), and partly by a public fund. An objed fo truly deferable, every one mull admit, and he had only to fay, that if his Noble Friend near him (Lord Auckland) lhould determine to bring forward loch a Bill, lie fhould be happy to render him every affiance in his rower : at the fame time, he trufted that a Bill was already in fuch forwardnefs in the hands of an Honourable and Learned Gentleman, cer tainly the moil competent in this kingdom to give it that perfeCtion, for which he himfelf did not poi fefs fulliciency ; that he hoped the Noble Lord's intention would be fuperfcded by the timely intro dulion e of that Bill in the other Houle of Parlia ment ; fuch a Bill as would be fatisfaElory to every friend of an ()Ned fo anaioufly and generally withed for. _ _ _ Lord Auer:Ley rofe to vindicate himfelf from having made any declaration to depreciate the right of that Houfe to deliberate upon all illbjeAs: (till, however, he faw no caufe to change his opi nion, that any Bill, originating in this Houle, on this fubje9, mul neceffarily contain Inch matters as will infu e its rejeaion in the Houfe of Corn mons.—The queltion was then put, and the Report was agreed to. Adjourned till Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The American Commiffioners' Bill paired a Committee of the whole Houle, and the Report was ordered to be received on Woiday. Mr. Timor/r gave noire, that on Monday he Should move for taking into confideration the merits of the Dunfermline Committee, as far as they relate to James Trotter, and that he Mould then move that the fame James Trotter be committed to Ncwgate. Mr. Coaxy moved, that certain Ads rapedling the Revenue of Ireland be read, for the purpofe of having them confldered in a Committee of the whole Houle an Monday next.,— , They were entered as read accordingly. Mr. Baows Lt. role, for the puerile of putting a qucition to the Right Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Facheouer of !refold) as to the mode he intended to adopt on the fuhjedt of the Schedule of lei& Duties. Ile only wilted to he informed of the mode the Right Hon. Gentleman intended to adopt this Seflion. Ik7r. Collar raid, ho Mould be always harry to give "err in formation in his power. He willed to Rate, that it was not his intention to purpofe. during the prefent Sellion of Parlia ment, any Schedule of the lei& I/mks, with a view to their being er.::dted. He had Paid before, and he wifhed now to re peat, that it would give him great fatisfadtion to have a Sche dule of the Irifh Duties prepared in the moll diftind and accu rate manner, and if he could adopt any meaftire, that would put Gentlemen in complete porefFton of the fobjed, he &meld feel great pleafure In doing it. Mr. ALZIANDER brought up the Report of the Four Mil lions Exchequer loan Bill, which was read, agreed to. and the Bill ordered to be engroffed and read a third time on Mon- I day, if then my:toff - ed. • Mr. HORII6t , id lirnight up the Report of the Grenada and Sr. Vincent's Loan Bill, the further comiderarion of which, • after a few obfcrvations from Mr. Wilberforce, and a few words by way of affent from Mr. Hotihoufe and Mr. Bailie, was deferred to Monday next. Mr. ALCIANDEI brought up the Report of Sir James Sau marez% Annuity Pill, Wich was read and agreed to, at.d the Bill was ordered to be ergroffed, and to be read a third time on Monday. if then engroCA. The Bill for increafing the rate of ful.rdlcrce to Inn keepers on quartering Soldiers, &c. was reid a fecond time, and ordered to be committed to a Committee of the wbole Houle on Mondry. A perfon twin the London Co.rpany for the Manufafture of Flour, Meal, and Bread, brou7h: up fume accout.ts, which was ordered to be laid before th( tioufe. _ . . Tbe CHANCELLOR of the rALl,Fq: . tit Rated, that tome doubts bad been entertained on the At of Parliament on the rut+ et of the Civil Lift, commonly rzlied •• Mr. Burke 's Bill," as It regarded the ord,r of p.,yments to be made out of the Civil Lift; it was proper to refer fuch order of payment to a Com mittee to confider of the fuhltet of Hi. Maj,ity's Civil Lift P.evenue.-tic moved it immediately, sod it was ordered ac cordingly. GREAT GRIMSRY TI ACTION. The Oril:T of the Day wa. then reati,f,n talitr7, into ent.culet , at ion the Rep-Ivor the Great (riot," Lienion Committee, on the motion of sir M. W. P tot L' v. Ile then moved, that the contained ta the Rdolution of the Committee await , ft Cohn Simplon. Fly. the 'Al..yor and rcurr.ing Ofrieer of the fail Borough, to referred to the em.f:,lcration of the 'lheCMatet.taaofth a.t.tquer laid, he prtfutned th:t the pro:eroi,g whi:h the Hun. i.aroott rneaLt to rccommtr.l to the {haute, was fitnilar to th..t of the Sbotahazi cafe, azd horded oo Ln examiaation of that precedent. Sir M. W. It I ., LET atitaiered LO the affurneire. 11.0 LIT LLOIII of tbe ES 1114.1)Z rAgrlted •he prlpricly cf entrnnr • in tAi. cak, a reference to the cafe of Slinreh .N_y of precedert ; svliach rtcd to by the Haute, :.r.J tt,e_u...4!0 : 1 • r tL• a put ar4 ctrritcl. .Sr. AI. W. it on w roovid, " 1 tit t:.e :3 'or;:c r. r: rre.i .5 the enoll.terotion ft i . i• the ryrh April inti."—Alrelitirl 'lnn rh, f...! John Sim! fnn, Hq. do attn.' thi. o:. thr .oCe of April rolL''.—Orikred. i lin a copy of the 14'4 der" fed: to the Simpron. Efq. and that be be st Merl to be heard by his Counfel thercon."—Ordered. "'!'hat William Render, E lg. And ieveral other percon a named, do attend on that day, in order to be examined touching the matter of the raid Charge."—Ordered. On the Order of the Day for agreeing to the Report of the Committee on the ST. PANCRAS PARISH DILL. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT obfervecl, that the oppo. firs of the prefent Bill, who formed a large ma jority of the pari(h of St. Pancras, had !hewn an unufual degree of forbearance by expreffing their willingnefs to agree to it, in cafe the parifhioners fhould have the power of eleCting one half of the fixty guardians to be appointed in the Bill ; and on that account, it would be nothing more than fair and candid to put off the report, in order to confider it on a future day, and that the petition. ers againfl the Bill might be heard by Counfel at the Bar. It was incumbent on theft parties to thew that the with was in favour of the But it was quite the reverie. The fusty guardians were to have the Pole power of raifing and difpof ing of money, without being, in the lealt degree, accountable to the parithioners for the fame. The pretence on which this Bill had been brought for ward, was that of preferving the peace of the parifh. But it was not proved or (hewn, that any riots ever exiled there, or that the peace had ever been difturbed. The parilh had hitherto been fa tisfied as to the mode in which Its affairs ufed to be condueted. The poor's rates had been leis there than in moll other parifhes : and, therefore, Come ground thould have been (hewn before this Bill was brought in, on which it could be jutlified. The Hon. Baronet, after leveret other obfervations, concluded with moving, that Counfel be heard againft the Bill. Mr. DENT Paid, one reafim for this meafure was, that of a defalcation having taken place in the re venues of the parith. Mr. BYNG fupported the Bill, tiecaufe he under flood it met the approbation of a majority of the inhabitants of Pancras parifh ; and he believed it would he produClive of benefit. Mr. HURST Paid, the Bill went to take away what the parifhioners confidered as a molt valuable franchife—the right of elefling their own officers, and of making them accountable for the difpofal of their own money. Before fuch privileges were abridged, a bong cafe ought to be made out. In (lead of which,there was no evidence to prove that the proceedings of the Vettry had ever been tumul tuous or irregular. He never would confent to a meafure, by which 6o felfereated guardians were to have the übfolute difpofal of the money of fo large a body of people. Mr. Fox took notice of Mr. Byng's affertion, that a cohliderable majority of the parifh was in favour of the Bill. The information he had re ceived was quite the reverie ; and he was hottile to the whole of the Bill, in as much as it was a mea lure of disfranchifement, without caufe (heWn that it was neceffary. A Sete& Veltry was to be ap. pointed by law, merely on a fuppofition that it was a better Government than a General Veftry. The language held out by the Bill to the great body of the Parifbioners, was neither more nor lets than this:—." In fpite of your teeth, there flail be fixty perfons placed over you, who are to difpore of your money without any controul." This was, indeed, treating the rights of Parifhion era in a way be had never heard of before. Mr. BY NG, in explanation laid, there was a ma jority in favour of the Bill, which bad undergone leveret amendments in the Committee. Sir WM. Pot aaaaa oppofed the Bill, as a aim fore that went to alter the eitablilbed laws of the land, without any caufe being !hewn for doing fo. Mr. ALIXANDSIL fupported it. After which the Houfe divided. For the Motion of agreeing to the Report, 85—For hearing Coma, 40. The Bill was then ordered to be read a 3d time on Monday. Mr. SHERIDAN afterwards Tore to move that the third reading of the Bill be put off to Monday the Rth, and cenfured the meafure in Itrong turns r but he afterwards withdrew his Motion. WOOLLEN MANUFACTURERS' PITITION• On our return to the Gallery we found Admiral BILIMILay addrefEng the Houfe on the Woollen Manufaaurers' Petition. He repeated his former arguments, to (hew the neceffity of the im• mediate adoption of fome meafure which would give the Manufaaurers that fatisfaaion they had been long waiting for.—The confideration of the prefent fubjea had been delayed too long, and he could not but ezprefs his furptife that a meafure In neceffary for the peace and fafety of a large body of people, fhould have been put off from one pe riod to another without any effectual meafure be ing adopted for public benefit. If the confideration of the prefent queflion fhould be put off to a fu tare period, it was his with that the petitions Ihould be printed for-the accommodation of Mem bers, that they may be able to judge of the mea lure during the holidays. The CHANCILLN: of the Exert sqpia (aid, that the Hon. Gentleman, Admiral Berkeley, had told the Houfe, th.t a delay had taken place in confequence of his not fixing a time for the coral &ration of the Petition, and that the Bill was brought into the Houfe before theChrillmas recets. He was extremely furry that he was tn.* at liberty to Rate the real caufe of the delay mentioned by the Hon. Gentleman, but all he could at prcfent fay in anfwer to that obfervation was, that bu fi ncf. of great importance had prevented he confidera tion of the lubjea. He was not a (banger to the outrageous ails that had been committed in the neighbourhood of Gloncefler, which the prcfent meafure is intended to prevent, and he would allure the Hon. Gentleman it was his with to give every f.ipport to the meafure now the fubjea t.f in order to tender the people concerned in the 111;i latisfied. Therefore, if agreeable to the Hoe. Gentleman, lie thould be happy to go into the me rits of the Pt itions on Wednefday next. M. Hor!ioust laid. he would contend, that the flatement the Hon. Gentleman bad given with relpea to the Riots which had taken place in t;,e itc4hhourhood of Gloucetler was not quite correa, though he was ready to acknowledge, that o.cie had been much difitttlEtnt.e Come time ago in the place berme-mentioned. 1:e, therefute, Ll:ought, that any little delay would nut be dan • genus ; and, in his opinion, time ought to he given to confider the merits of the fubjeft. He knew there had been a great dillurbance in the Comity mentioned, but nut to that degree as had been Rated by the Hon. Gentleman. Admiral BERKELEY (poke in explannatton. Mr. Dict. Isis laid he agreed to the time propof ed by the Chancellor of eh.: Elchcquer, fur the confiieratio,n of the fub;eiFt. The queltion was then put and agreed to for tak ing the Petiton into confideration nett We,ln e fd,, y. Mr. Rose, after having adverted to the flouriih. ing Qate of our Revenue, and the manner in which it has increafed in the cantle of the laft 18 years, and Rating the propriety of diffuling information upon that fubjee as generally as poflible, mils :I, " That there be 'mid before the I lonfe an Accoont of the Value of all Importations into Great Brizain for the laft 18 years, ending January 5, 1803, cr clufive of Corn and other Grain, and of Inwrta tions from the Eafl Indies andChina,diftinguilhing each year."—Ordered.—Adjourned to Mur.day. LONDON. SATURDAY. APRIL t. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONF. GYCI OL!': 3 per C. Cold'. nion.:y, 634 1 s; i o f, ►;. Ditto, for April aca. 6g}.4 10j. Lim,. for May acc. Omo.urn PRICE OF STOCKS YESTERDAY: 3 per C. Conf. 6463 6sin I Imp. Ana. 3 per Cent. 96i. 97* 97 I Dumb= 13t 151 dit hula Stoat zas for opg. EDO% Th.kets 181. is. hop.) per Cent. 62 6ti Conti. for Ap. ac. 611 61 1. 1 1 Ducctw, Maamt 29. s per Cent. Government Debentures 94 9311. Centric of Exchange—Dublin on London 121. A Dutch Mail arrived laft night, by which we have received fomething like an official account of orders having been iffued by the Government of this country, fubfequent to thofe fent out by the 'mooting (loop of war, for the evacuation of the Cape of Good Hope : thofe orders, it is (aid. left England on the soth of November. On turning to our file of that month we find, in corroboration of the Dutch llatement, that the Cow CORDS frigate did fail from Plymouth with fealed orders on the aoth, and we have no doubt was the bearer of, thofe alluded to. The retention of the Cape is therefore no longer a fubjed of exultation ! Our Hague Correfpondent informs us, that the Louifiana expedition had not failed a few days Grace, but that all the troops were on board. The real objeft of the armament is not fufficiently known, and if it were, much fufpicion ought to at. tach to other movements making on the fide of Holland and Flanders. Six thoufandFrench troops, is is reported; have entered Breda. Letters from Berlin (late the arrival there of the French General, Duaoc, from Paris, on the aoth ult. whole fudden appearance caked much fur• prize in that capital. Thefe letters obferve, that the General was Paid to have brought a propofal for the Klee of PRUSSIA to aft as Mediator, to pre. vent a new breach between France and England; but that the Klee would not in any way interfere. The General was espefted to nay there oaly five days, and then return with all (peed to Paris.— Letters from the Hague fate, that General Du. aoc's journey was undertaken with a view to in. duce the Court of Berlin, to pnrfue prompt melt. funs in regard to the Elatorate of Hanover..... Which of thefe accounts are molt to be relied upon. we cannot determine. General Durtoc was accompanied by Colonel COLSERG, who was to proceed from Berlin to Pe terfbnrgh, as was fuppofed, on bufinefs connated with t he prcfent di fp u tes between France andßr itain. The Dutch funds have fallen, and the value of the Refcriptions has funk fo low, that thofe pays. ble after peace are to be had from 6.4 to 641. For this depreffion, however, no particular caufe is given beyond the fluilluation of politics, and the fccrecy with which the prefent negotiation is eon dated between Great Britain and France. Haoue, M•RCH 24.—Since our laR, we have received no certain information in regard to the queßion of peace or war. According to the is.. telligence from Paris, moil worthy of credit, every thing feems to announce that the negotiation now carrying on between the French and Engliffi Go• vernments will be brought to an amicable conclu fion. In regard to the march of the French troops, which has already been publicly mentioned, it is underßood that it will not take place unlefshoili lities ffiould unespededly commence, of which, however, we have as yet no caufe to be appreher • five. With refpcdt to the French armament dellined for Louifiana, which is now lying ready in the har bour of Helvoettlirys, nothing certain has been made public. We only know that the embarkation is continued, and will be complcted by the end of this week. Ytflerday, and the day before, about :ono French troops of the firil brigade of in fantry of the line, arrived at Helvoetfluys from Bois le Duc, in order to go on board the fleet.-- Geneal VICTOR, with his hole Raff, and a great many civil and military officers dellined for Loui• fiani, remain ail: in this city. has MARCH 29. —The Blitavian GOVCrIITTICIIt received official intelligence from its Ambatrador in London, that although a Cabinet order of the 14:h of Odober was difpatched to the cnm• mandtng Officer at the Cape, to fufprr•.d the tra:uatwo of tha: ?Lice ti:l farther orders, and