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prestimptiont : of guilt against the parties accused ? When his Learned Friend accused Lord Sidmooth of precipitation and prejudgi:tg, he must have forgotten hoe- much the question ad been prejudge.l on the other side, at the Yorkshire and simil ir County Meet ings —( No, no, from Lord Milton). Ile must main. taro that it had been prejudged, in spite of the denial of the Noble Lord. The Resolutions passed at York conveyed a meaning that, in the opinion of that Meet ing, the Meeting at Manchester was•a legal assembly —(Cries of " Read, rend," from Lard would oblige the Noble Lord ; he would read them. The second Resolution stated, " That it is a direct violation of law, and an alarming invasion of the rights of the l eople, to disperse by violence"—(Loud cheering front Me Opposition)-11 Gentlemen would defer their cheers until they heard the whole of the Lesolution, the) would do better—" to disperse by violence, and still more by the employment of a mi litary force, a Meeting legally assembled and peace ably held for such purposes"—(Cheers front the Mi nisterial side).—Did not this Resolution distinctly state, that the Meeting at Manchester was legally ar , embled and peaceably held ?—(Repeated cheers). • !lot what said the third Resolution ? It was still more explicit. It was to the following effect :—" 'That we Lave learned with unfeigned concern that a Meeting held at Manchester on the 16th August last, avowedly for such I:urposes, at which it has not hitherto ap peared that any. illegal act had been committed, or that previous proclamation to disperse had been made according to law, was suddenly attacked and dis persed b' a military force, whereby the lives of a great number of his Majesty's subjects were endan gered, many of them wounded, and some killed."— (Loud cheers front legit sides ofthe liouse).—This Re solution, connected with the former one, clearly made out his assertion—" Was assembled for such per .poses !" For what purposes ? Tins could mean no thing else than that the Meeting at Manchester was legal. A Jury, however, in that very comity where these 11.1 solutions were passed, after a full investiga tion of the c.v.; came to a very different conclusion; and after that conclusion, he thought that he had a tight to state, that the Magistrates had a right to issue their warrant to arrest the Leaders of that Assembly. He would ask the Honourable Ba ronet, what useful result his .inquiry would lead to, supposing the Ilouse to be of opinion that •the -conduct of the Yeomanry was improper ? The inquiry must still end in the ordinary Courts of Justice, for all that the House could do would be to • order whatever Gentleman held his situation to insti tute proceedings against the Yeomanry---((fear, hear). One word as to the exaggerations which had been complained of. The Hon. Baronet had said that the • facts-on which his (the Ministerial) side of the House relied had been chsprcved by the evidence at York. He maintained that they had not; but even supposing that they had, was it fair to characterize the pro ceedings of the'l6th of August as a murder and a massacre? As far as any investigation had been made into the subject, they had been found not to I be murder ; and he would ask, where war .':at can dour on which Hon. Gentlemen so much prided them selves,when they stigmatized with such epithets the ac tions of those men whom they wished to put upon their trial ?---(Loud cheer., front the Ministerial side). Mr. S. WORTLEY said,• he must acquit the sup porters of the Resolutions at the York County Meet ing of any disposition to prejudge the question then pending by declaring the legality of the Manchester Meeting. He peoceeded to argue against the motion, contending that if there was any ground for corn plaint, it was a proper subject for the consideration of a legal tribunal. That no such suit had been in stituted was a clear proof to him that a case could not be made out. Lord MILTON observed, that the explanation of his Hon. Colleague, as to the York County Meeting, rendered any observations from him on the subject unnecessary. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT was now generally called upon to reply. The Honourable Baronet then observed, that the case remained precisely where it was; for the Noble Marquis and the Honourable and Learned Gentlemen opposite, and all their adherents, seemed determined to shot their eyes to the real and great question, and to endeavour to turn the atten tion of the House to minute parts of it. They talked of it as a (1 uestioti between certain persons who had been aggrieved and those by whom they had been agrieved, instead of a question between the People of England and his Majesty's Government. That the people assembled at a Public Meeting were to have the military let loose upon them, and that it was to be held that no one was amenable for that act, surely afforded the strongest ground for parliamen tary inquiry. The House ought to be informed by an inquiry at the Bar, if the troops had committed military execution without the authority of the Ma gistrates, and had of their own head perpetrated the violences which had occurred. They ought to he in formed whether Ministers stood clear on the subject?' Seeing the correspondence that existed between the Magistrates and his Majesty's Ministers—seeing that the latter bad published the letters of the Magistrates, but had not ventured to lay before the House their answers—seeing the ungracious answer to the She riffs of London, put into the mouth of his Majesty, who was made to say that the Citizens of London could not know the previous transactions and circum stances at Manchester—seeing all this, it was difficult to believe that what had taken place was not in a great measure the result of directions from his Ma jesty's Government. As to its being too late for the investigation, that he denied. The time that had elapsed had .only served to divest the subject of all false appearances, and to exhibit its true shape and colours. The Noble Marquis (Londonderry) had made his statements lightly, and without any shadow of proof. The attacks of the military upon the people were distinctly proved—indeed, so distinctly, that the Learned Judge who presided at the trials at York stated to the Jury, that there appeared no justifica tion for the employment of the military in the execu- EICO of the warrant. Though the parties tried at York were charged with a conspiracy, yet the legality of the question did not appear to be decided by the trial. It was said on that occasion, that the parties had been guilty of stirring up the minds of the peo ple to a hatred and contempt of the Government..— But it was hardly possible to touch upon public grievances—to point out even the corruption of that, House, without involving one's self within the scope of such a charge. The whole of the facis stated deter mined one point, namely, that Mr. Hunt and the other parties had not attended the Meeting with the motives imputed to them. An Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down bad,. as Gentlemen under the in fluence of pasion were generally in the habit of doing, recommended calmness and coolness to him— (Hear, hear). Ile knew not how to reply to this ad vice, as he did not feel the want of those qualities ; perhaps indeed lie might, in the heat of argument, have been betrayed into hasty expressions ; and there never was a question more calculated to excite, and at the same time to excuse, the warmth of a man's feelings than this—(Hear, hear). The Hon. Member for Dover (Mr. B. Wilbraham) had attempted to throw discredit upon the investigation which bad taken place, as well as urn that now proposed, by stating that he bad had the good fortune of meeting persons who Well; said to have been killed at Man chester, alive and unhurt ; that he had known that a child reported to have been killed by the Yeomanry had died of convulsions ; that a man ieported to hive been killed by the con:aables, had been actually choaked by eating mutton ; and that a father, after having in the hospital identified the clothes of his son, whom he understood to base been murdered, had afterwards met that- son alive and well. The Hon. Member for Newcastle (Mi. Wilmot) had gone fur ther than the Noble Lord (Londonderry) had the face to do. The Noble Lord had confined the guilt to the Manchester Yeomanry; but the Hon. Member con• tended that no guilt could be imputed, but that it was an act . of extended justice— Mr. WILMOT rose to Order. He appealed to the House whether any Hon. Member had a right to put a forced construction upon his worth? What he stated was, thatif the military had ,been called in by the Magistrates, in the exercise of their sound discretion, then the Magistrates were not responsible for the acts subsequently committed by that military. Sir F. BURDETT continued.—lt was not his in tention to attribute anything to the Hon. Gentleman which he had not said. The Noble Lord (London derry) had used one expression that was not a little remarkable; he had said that lie could rely upon the present construction of the House of Commons— , ( Hear, hear).—No man would dispute his Lordship's i intimate acquaintance with the tiirmation of the House; he was a witness, onmi exceptione major, on that subject ; • for he had, no doubt, studied its coa- struction with the painful skill of an anatomist : he was, besides, well qualified to judge of the c onstrue - tion of the House of Commons of England, by his knowledge of that of Ireland—(Hear, hear, hear).-1 He was well aware of the value of its present con- struction for his own purposes ; and that the House was worthy of his Lord hip ,, and his Lordship of the House, he (Sir Francis Bin Jett) would be the last man in the world to deny—(Much cheering and laugh ter)—they enjoyed a mutual good opinion of each other, and though they might be congratulated upon their resemblance and tAeti union, it could be no sub ' jest of congratulation with the people—(Hear, hear). But, convinced as he (Sir F. Burdett) was of the per nicious influence of the House of Commons, as at pre sent constructed, upon the rights and liberties of Eng- . land, he- did not wonder that the people—(7he Ho nourable Baronet was here interrupted by loud cries of " Order, order ! Chair!") The SPEAKER, as soon as silence could be ob tained, said, that he was confident that the Hon. Ba ronet would be sensible of the impropriety of the words he had just used in the warmth of his sentence. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT professed himself ready to submit to whatever the Speaker might judge cor rect in the course of debrte—(Hear, hear).—He was about to add, that the real question at issue was, whe ther, in future, the People of England should be al lowed to exercise their undoubted and unalienable ' right of meeting in any manner and in any numbers, for any lawful purpose ; or whether the intestine war, which the Noble Secretary at War had said had been carried on against them for the last five years, was still to be continued ? He was convinced that the People were in no way hostile to their Institutions; but they thought themselves entitled to the Constitu tion, and to all those 'rights which the Constitution gave them ; above all, to that great right of free election of their Representatives for the protection of their interests and property. This was the whole object of the Meeting at Manchester ; yet it was there that more than six hundred men, women, and chil dren, had been killed, wounded, or maimed ; and yet it was into this horrible transaction that Mi nisters refused inquiry !—(Hear, hear, hear). — As to the proceedings of the Grand Jury at Lancas ter, he intended to cast no imputations; but he must say, that it was utterly incomprehensible to him upon what ground the Bills were rejected by them, recol lecting that all the facts were beyond the possibility of dispute. Then they came before the Coroner, where last, not least, it seemed, according to the as sertion of the Noble Lord opposite, some tricks were played. What were those tricks? The number of witnesses who prcssed forward to give evidence—of that the Coroner should have judged. It was, how ever, known that the inquiry before 'the Coroner had gone so far, that the Jury had made up their minds upon the• verdict which they meant to give; but their intentions were defeated by the conduct of the Coroner himself=-(Hear, hear, hear). — He would ask the House how it could, after this, be said that the people had not made every accessible application in the usual course of justice? In each attempt the people had failed—their successive appli cations had been refused. His reason, therefore, for pressing this question was, that the public mind was not satisfied, nor would it be satisfied until an inquiry had taken place into these transactions. While he' had a seat in the House he would• press for this in quiry. If the King's Ministers would now say that' they would take up the inquiry, and report to the House upon it, then he would rest satisfied ; but if that were not done, then he had only to add, that the People would never rest satisfied until some satisfaction were had for, or inquiry made into, these calamitous transactions—(Hear, hear, hear). Strangers were then ordered ..o withdraw, and the House divided, when the numbers %vete— For the Motion - 1 it Against it - - - - '235 Majority apinst it - —124. The other Orders of the D.l were then csati, and the House adjourned at Half-pax Two, THE EVENING STAR. LONDON. THURSDAY, MAY 17. 1821. lira MAssarea Bta-a-Dar.—Holiday at the Bank. The motion fdr an inquiry into the circumstances of " the Manchester Massacre! was last night re jected by the House of Commons, there being 111 for it, and 235, against it. It is not by any Ministe rial majority that the cry of blood to HEAVEN IS to be stifled. It will rise till the crime is avenged. Our sentiments respecting the guilty transactions of the 16th of August, 1819, are too well known to neeJ repetition at this time ; and we have only to deplore that the Government should have so identifie.l itself with the transactions of that day, as still to extend over them the shield of its influence. The, foreign arrivals to-day consist of the Paris Papers of Sunday and Monday, and Madrid to the 6th instant. Their contents are . not without interest; but the length of our Parliamentary Report on the interesting question* of the Manchester Tragedy, li mite us to a mere statement of their substance.— Anarchy and disorder continue to make frightful strides in Spain : there have been several new skir -1 mishes between the Constitutionalists and rebels; more personal arrests and proscriptions ; and if a letter from Bayonne may be credited, on the same night that the Canon Viinuesit was massacred, the populace of Madrid demanded from the Authorities the heads of twenty-five persons, all belonging to the first families of Spain. It is evident to us that there is a party at work in this unhappy country, who, though fully sensible that they are warring against the great majority of their fellow-countrymen, entertain the hope that they shall be at least able to -keep alive ! such a degree of civil commotion as may fur -1 nish a pretext for the presence of a foreign force, who, under the pretext of restoring tranquillity, may restore the old system of despotism and misrule; and, from what we s have lately seen, we :ball not be at all surprised should such be the issue of their patricidal designs. Of the Greek Insurrection the accounts are extremely desponding, and fully confirm the view which we took of it some days back. The inhabi tants of Moldavia and NVallachia .have not been long in evincing that there is nothing cf that Greek feeling about them which animates YP.iILANTI and a few others of the leaders in the Insurrection. Finding that they are to have no active'support from Russia, or at least deceived by the assurances to that effect, and seeing that the struggle, if persisted in, must be a severe one, they have abandoned the stand ard of liberty as fast as they resorted to it ; and the whole force of the Insurgents appears now from good accounts not to exceed 5000 men. Jassy they have been obliged wholly to evacuate, by a re-action on the part of the Boyars, who have sent to the Porte to declare the readiness of Moldavia to return to its duty. YPSILANTI and THEODORE have their stations in the vicinity of Bucharest, and seem quite at a stand. By late accounts from St. Helena, intelligence has been received in town of the EX-EMPEROR being se riously indisposed, indeed so much so that he had kept his bed for a fortnight or three weeks. A pas senger, who is arrived in town from the vessel which brought the information, on the authority of one of BONAPARTE'S attendants, confirms the intelligence, and adds, that BONAPARTE was so extremely unwell that his dissolution was thought likely. He was not able to retain anything on his stomach. Yesterday the Duke of YORK, the Duchess of GLOUCESTER, the Princess AUGUSTA, and the Prin cess SOPHIA, visited the KING. The Duke of YORK and the Princess AUGUSTA, and a numerous party, dined with the Duke and Dut chess of CLARENCE yesterday. Yesterday Prince LEOPOLD dined with Earl DARN LEY to Meet the Noble Directors of the Concert of Ancient Music ; afterwards his Royal Highness ac companied their Lordships to the performance of the Concert, at the Hanover-square Rooms. The Earl of TALBOT, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, is arrived, via Liverpool, at his seat in Staffordshire. The PRIMATE, the LORD CHANCELLOR, and Sir DAVID BAIRD, have been.sworn into the administra tion of the Viceregal powers, as Lords Justices, during the absence of his Excellency from Ireland. Last night, Mons. ALMANDRI4 the inimitable i r etariktquist, again astonished and delighted a numerous and genteel audience; at the European Saloon, in King-street, St. James's-square. Tuesday, the' Anniversary of the St. Patrick's Charity Schools, and Asylum for Female Orphans, was celebrated at the Freemasons Tavern, his Royal Highness the Duke of SUSSEX in the Chair. After dinner the health of the ‘k King" was drank with three times three, and great applause. The CHAIRMAN then proposed "the Queen and the rest of the Royal Family," which was drank with great enthusiasm.— Lord TRIMBLESTONE, after a warm eulogium upon that member of the Royal Family, whose liberality of sentiment, and graciousness of manners, induced every Catholic to look to him with peculiar attention, proposed the health of the Duke of Sussex. His Row. HIGHNESS returned thanks in a speech particularly ex ' pressive of his solicitude for Catholic Emancipation. IThe Meeting was afterwards addressed, in the same strain, by Lord NUGENT, Ml'. HODHOUSE, Mr. BLAKE, and Mr. J. HtrrcurNsotr (son of the Honourable Mr. C. Hurctittisorr ' of the House of Commons), wh o ex hibited the most flattering pronlite of eloquent powers. The children who are supported by the Institution appeared in the room.. They comprehended about 350 boys and 150 females. The spc.c.tule was most interesting. TIFF ARMY. The 4th Royal Veteran Battalion, at prefec t coar. tied in Stirling Castle, have received orders to INa ceed on the 14th instant to .%yr, for the purpo se being dkcmbodied. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. Drat., MAT (G.—Wind S.W.—Came down from the Ri te and remain, the Wren, Cos.uxs, for Philadelphia; LAING. for ' Sierra Leone ; Margaret, NPMA:r., for Virg:zia; Vigilant,WHlTT ; fQZ Cadiz, dec. and his 111aj!•sty's stermp, c k et , Lanus NINC and Nistroz, for Holyhead. Arrived and soled the River, the Marquis of Angleaea, him - Ames, irons Cork ;i t Patrick, Canute . , and C4berine , PATTON, Irom Belfast; 1,4 14 l'itrre HARD, from Jamaica, and several more, names unknoisl. Sailed for the River, the Cathcrine Stewart, Fosatzs, fro m Bombay. DUVLIt, MAY 16.—An anchor and cable, belonging to the Governor Carver, has been pi.:Led up, and landed here sky morning. 11AltZVIt i , MAY 16.—Arrived the Beaufny packet, with Mail front Holland. Sailed the Lady Nepean packet, for HQ. land, and Princess Charlotte ditto for Cuxhaven, each with a VESEND, MAY 16.—Arrived the Ecaleby Castle,So vinn .. front China. AIMMATIS, AlaY 16.—Arrived the James and Sarah, Cott. son, iron Southampton for London, with her chain cable brake s , Arrived off here, the Thomas Coutts, ALtasontaasas, f rom China for London, with loss of anchor and cable, and sa ik i again this forenoon. _ _ _ Ltvcsroor., MAY 15.—Arrived the Calcutta, &MOGAN, hem Calcutta; sailed from the Sand Heads the lit of January, front Madras the Bth ditto. The John Taylor was to sail the 7th of January ; the nuke of Lancaster on the lltb ; a i d Albion on the 14th ; all for Liverpool. CUSTOM- iioeir, MAT I6.—Entered Inwards: For, i nt , Ostend; Aid; fro& Guernsey; Mary Allen, from Jamaica...- Cleared Cutwards Wilson, for Antwerp; Thomas and Ma l y for Amsterdam; Rambler, for Limerick i Ocean, for l)s rara: Amiable, for Havre; Lord Exmouth, for Malta; 44 Wellington, for lasineur; Ann and Sarah, for I lamburgh ; J for Cadiz; Eleanor, for Tobago; Hope, for Curaeoa ; Bentley, for Quebec. Captain PARRY'S Journal of his Voyage for th e Discovery of a North-West Passage, was pu'ulished Tuts. DAY. By the Arab, which arrived at Liverporl on Mon day last, from Rio de Janeiro, which place she left on the 21st March, we learn that the King Pon- TCOA L had issued a Decree, stating his determinvion to embark immediately for his European dominions. It seems to be the general opinion, that since the Cerlebs of HANNAH MORE, no fiction has appeared that can be read with so much advantage by the no married classes, as the Novel just published, undo the tide of "Precantit,;l," and we have therefore no hesitation in recommeading it to uiliveisal attention. The cheapest book which has been published these fifty years, is Montides Trards in Eft in 1819, published to-day. It is one of the most interesting works, is illustrated by twelve very striking and novel Engravings, and is sold at 3s. 6d. sewes, or4s. in boards! Such, linwever, is the general economy of the Monthly Jonrnal of Voyages and Travels. The Royal Clarence Lodge of Preen) asons,atFronte, which has been for a long time closed, is re-opened, in consequence of the exertions of Colonel Trim, Provincial Grand Master of the County of Somerset. The Subscription for the purpose of paying the fine to . which Sir FRANCIS BURDETT was sentenced, having failed, the Baronet refuses to take the 1800 subscribed' and recommends it to be applied " to the relief of the sufferers at Manchester." Sunday, - Janter Gunn, weaver in Ballion, against whom a true bill had been found by the Grand Jury, in Jane last, on a charge of Hif;ll Tieason, was ar rested, and next day committed to Stirling jail. Friday, pursuant to his sentence .tt Lest Circuit Court, John Fleming was executed at Stirling, for issuing a forged five pdund note of the Paisley Bank ing Company. Etoremzer.—A young Lady and Gentleman passed through Grantham, in a post-chaise and four, last week, on their mete Grctua-Green. It has since been ascertained that the fugitives doped from Huntingdon, and that the young Lady's name was GILL, and the Gentleman's NI bIIANI. Dimi.s.—Two young men, clerks, fought a duel in a fidd st the back of the Jew's Harp, Regent's Park, on Monday meet ing, In consequence of a dispute at the Theatri on Saturday night. tine of them was wounded Tightly in the shoulder, in to first fire, but not enough to prevent him repairing to his desk.— l'uesday morning, a meeting took place in a meadow near de Dun Cow Tavern, in the Kent Road, between a Gentienam named WEST. a confidential clerk, in a large concern in the City, and Mr. O'llsas, an Irish Gentleman, lately arrived in this country. The cause of the quarrel, as related to the Police. is this :—On Sunday evening, the patties met at the lodg ings of a mutual friend, who U. a medical student, and ado' the enjoyment of the bottle, the conversation happened to twa on political subjects, amongst which the Emancipation Ms were freely discussed. In the progress of the di.course, Mr. (I Ibis took umbrage at some disrespectful expressions which Mr. West applied to the Catholics of Ireland, and demanded an mbar tied, which the latter, being heated with wine, r. tux d to give. Mr. (Maas then withdrew, and next day sent a challenge to Mr. WEST, which led to the meeting. Mr. WEST discharged his pistol in the air, and the seconds immcdiately interfered, and prevented further dispute. The officers had received inforim. tion, but before their arrival the business was settled. QAJEKN•SQUA ILL—Yesterday Lawrence Clarke and Marna In" two poor Irishmen, were charged at this Office, with wOOlOlll two privates of the Guards. It appeared that on Tuessiay nigh a drummer of the Guards was going throvgh the Almonry.add broke a coop containing some fowls, belonging to a youth named Cannon. An altercation took place between rheas, which ors► minated in a regular boxing match, in which the drummer was beat, and he went to the " Marquis of Granby" public-homer where some of the men belonging to his regiment were Mak ing, and stated the case to them. One of the soldiers, whop ' inebriated, inunediakly ran into the street, and he was followed by the rest. Not Cannon, they repaired to a boo where Clarke and White lodged, and demanded that C.aancia should be sent out to then.. ..n immense crowd of the boot orders collected together, with some more soldiers. The Irish men barricadoed the door, and threatened to knock down eeq' man who entered. The soldiers, however, forced the door, and drove away one of the Irishmen, who guarded it with a sword in his band ; but he and an o th er armed with a shovel, _,laate d themselves on the stairs. One of the soldiers rushed fawn% in order to seize the first man by the legs, and pull him down' when on stoopinf for that purpose, he received a blow of th e sword on the back of his head, which felled him to the pound, and wounded him most seriously. The man who was armed with the shovel at the same instant struck another soldier. ad cut off the greatest part of his chin. A general fight enstiedOldd all the Irishmen in the neighbourhood, on hearing what bad oc. curred, repaired to the assistance of their countrymen, and 611 soldiers mustered rill stronger. The' whole street was Is a state of alarm, and the constables. were of no use, till informa tion was given at the Tilt-yard, and a file of sold erg dispatched to the scene of action, who, without using their arms, succeeded in dispersing the mob, taking a few of the ringleaders into coo tody. Every pane of glass in the house where the affray took place was demolished, and the doors and shutters broken.—Tbe alagistrate said it was his duty to require proper bail tar* appearance of the prisoners, Clarke and White, to any chola that might be preferred against them at the Sees/rms.—Commit ted for want of baiL lA/NI)UN : Printed and puhliehed by Lynn. Kum, 'lad"' Mee, Temple-Ka. 11" r • NI I 1.1.10. ....... S the sep Ili he Ba be to ur hi ar