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. tto 7 - c bt DUGGIN'S Patent Ventilating BEAVER HATS are acknowledged to be the best kind of Hats ever yet Invented—they are exceedingly light, only 4i ounces—will never injure by wet, lose their colour or shape, and will not prevent the egress of perspiration, which has been so much the complaint of water-proof hats, often producing the head-ache and the loss of hair. Price 215. and £6s. Drab brown Ladles' Riding Hata, at the same price. Superfine Waterproof Beaver Hata Ills. Also, the very best light Silk Hats IBs.—At Duggin and Co. SO, Newgate-street, near the New Post Office. ,14 1 1 do, N( 0 1 0 iumat, 1788. COSTIVENESS and INDIGESTION may be EASILY REMOVED, by the USE of READ'S pITENT LAVEMENT MACHINE, without any Me dicine whatever. Manufactured and Sold by J. READ, Sole Patentee, 35, REGENT-CI RCUS. PICCADILLY ; anti, by Appointment, by Mr. PEPY, 22, POULTRY. N.B. There being a vast number of paltry instruments of this nature in circulation, which are daily sent to the Patentee by disappointed purchasers, front all parts of the country, to be put into order with his materials, be begs respectfully to remark, that Country Agents will consult their own respectability, by not offering to their Customers Articles which must inevitably deceive expectation. Read's Agency Terms are liberal. BY HIS MAJESTY'S ROYAL LETTERS PATENT. LEAKE'S GENUINE PILLS, Are pronounced to be $ CURE in General Cbronieal Rheu. matic Cues, in all Disorders of the Skin, from the Itch to the Leprosy, commonly called the Scurvy, and In an especial Manner for all those named Venereal. THE astonishing Cures this powerful alterative Medicine has performed in the above cruel Disorders, during the course of eighty years (which has been peeved in Thousands of Caine) is the greatest, its best eulogy. It is only therefore necessary to Caution the Public against the vile Imitations of unprincipled Impostors, allured by its great success : To prevent such Impositions in future, every Box will be sealed up trith a Stamp printed, by favour of the Commissioners at the Stamp pffice, London, with the Name and Place of Abede, of the Proprietior, T. TAYLOR, No. 9, New Bridge-street, London. To counterfeit which is Felony. Prepared and sold, with copious Directions, (describing the different Symptoms of the Disorder, whereby Persons of either Sex may judge of their Case, and compleat their Cure) in Boxes of only 2e. 9d. each, duty included, by the sole Proprietors, T. TAYLOR AND SON, Surgeons,* At their House N 0.9, New Bridge-street ; where they will give Advice, without a Fee, to Persons taking these Pills, and will answer Patients' Letters, if post-paid, on the same Terms, observing in all Cues the most inviolable Secrecy.— Sold al so, by their appointment, at Mrs. Disborough's Toy. shop, 36, Clement's-e, Lombard-stmt; and by one person in every considerable Town in Great Britain and Ireland. • See the List, published by the Royal College of London. INFALLIBLE ANTIDOTE AGAINST THE CHOLERA MORRUS. Extract of a Letter from an Officer at Madras to his Friend in London, dated the 2d of April, 1831 : " DEAR is with much regret I hear the Cholera is making rapid strides over Europe. Should it visit Eng land, follow the advice I received from a Greek, which I will relate to you as briefly as -possible, and be assured It will never assail you, however prevalent it may be. " In the early part of May, 1820. while on board the Jo sephine, we anchored on the Manilla Road, Phillippioe Islands, and a few days after the Cholera :bowed itself on board; four of our crew died within six hours after the at. tack. "It happened there was a Greek on board, who was con tinually smoking his amber•tnounted pipe, and frequently ♦isited the sick. " He assured our commander and officers that if they would smoke the amber pipes, of which he bad plenty on board, and suffer the (mew also to do the same, all would be paved ; that he had lived in a contagious country from his childhood, and never knew the effects of the disease. " The experiment was tried, and with happy effect ; for within eight days, all recovered, with the exception of nine emelt and two officers, who fell victims to the disease within twelve hours after the attack. _ " Ass further proof of the effect of smoking through am ber, a medical gentleman has assured me, while in Aleppo, in therm lal9l, the Cholera was very prevalent. He re. tired, in comotisence of advice, to a Lazaretto, along with the French Mewl and about 200 other individuals,consisting not only of who were more or less habituated to the climate,rt . S l O Ss of several natives, who made use of the Tehibougue, which is a plain Turkish cherry tube, with an amber mouth-piece—that during their stay of six weeks in the Lazaretto, not one person was slat. Whereas, its the course of twenty-five d a ys, the Cholera swept off 5, 0 00 per sons in the town, pri ncipally consisting of females, and persons unaccustom ed to smoke. " Military duty having called me to Madras in the year 1827, and finding persons on all sides falling victims to the disease, I had recourse to smoking through Amber, although I have frequently had to bid a last adieu to • departing friend, I never had an attack. " in 1829, the house of Inderwick• sent out a case of pipes to a merchant of this city; they were eagerly bought up on their arrival, and valued according to their merits. " Some of our Physicians are of opinion, that If smoking is not a certain preventive, it tends to cha nge the nature of the disea4e, and if the Amber could be used among the troops it would be as beneficial to Cholera, as vaccination from the cowpox haa proved itself against the baneful dis ease of the small-pox ; and it is their intention to forward their opinion to the East India Company. Trusting, my dear Sir, my advice may be beneficial to my friends and country, I remain, Dear Sir, tour sincere friend, THOMAS JAS. COATES." • The above Infallible Antidote to be bad at Isttitawrces Warehouse, No. bit, Prince's Strort, Leicester Square. New and Improved i dittos:J. GOSS'S WORKS. Twentieth Edition, ss. each. 1. THE £GIS OF LIFE.- " Haminem pagiaa nears sapit. " Our page relates to man."--blearms.. A Non-Medical Commentary on the indiscretion &ril ing from Hunt= Frailty, in which the nature, symptoms, and baneful effects of Self-abuse, Intemperance and Libertinism, &e. are fully developed ; with Practi cal Ob servations on Sexual Debility sad Mental Irritation, with some interesting Observations on Vegetable and Animal Life : in Part 11. is a series of Cases illustrative of the pre ceding subject*, explaining than in a familiar misoner. By GOSS and Co. Consulting Surgeon., London. " Haim beads Omnibus esseekslit, si gnis eognowerit " Since Heaven to all the fund of bliss supplies, Its frieze! application marks the wise.' 2. THE SYPHILIS?, a familiar treatise on disorders aising from Lure Venues, Gonorrhea, Stricture, &c. with a variety of remarks occurring in a most extensive practice, each section explained by eases. HVGEIANA, a non-medical analysis of some com plaints incidental to females, is Lencorbota, Nervous Irri tation, &c. in which &reoffered some import ant admonitions vl the pec u li a r debilities attending circumstances, sympathies, and formation. The subject of sterility is 'pecially dwelt upon. Interesting and important cases illus. tr,.:c the subject. " Quo fugit Venus ? lieu! quove coke demo ?" • Hoe. Lib. 4, Od. Whither flies Love? Ah ! where the charming bloom ?" The above may be had of Sherwood and. Co.- Paternoster ". London ; fI6, Taoist', Gissiow ; 9, Callon.sueet, Edinburgh ; Wri Hirmaingbans • Duffield, Bath ; Reid, Bristol ; Waller Cheltenham ; iodates Brighton ; Wood, H u nti ng d o n ; Hatt, Cambridge; Trevino, Eli- Bacon and Co. Norwich; Deck, Ipswich ; Hobson, Leeds Gota and S o n ,. Li ver p oo l geyser, Manchester: Platt and Todd, Shdlleid; Slasw, Oxford 1-Ikea* one Dowding, Salisbury ; gad el, all Ilookeellers...Prks 3as seal.. Messrs. GOBS and. Co. wo to be calllnfted. na9 9 14 every day, at their house ; and Patients in salidemootost parts of the, ountry, cash, OStatolowslinaP bins I nignmeif the eeeee.esed mgr rosikaance kr adOeir 41 4 Medicine, whicksan.bo.fonoseeled tocatimelt bid* World. Nualiacultyesu occur, pis dike saildoesitillbeimj• curdy patted and carefully protedidie9pobealletdbigl Giniand Co. M. Q. GySiirstoos t No. 11, lieseerie. "t ee?, Fleet -street, London. THURSDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 6, 1831. N. 13,906. HURRICANE AT ST. VINCENT. ♦uoUST 13.—This day it is our melancholy duty to record one of those awful visitations of Divine Providence, from which the Colony has been, in a great degree, happily exempt, since the memorable hurricane of 1780, although we have,on several occasions, been called upon to notice the destructive efforts of similar calamities in many of the Colonies around us. The gale of Thursday last, to which we have to direct our attention, has been general, we fear, throughout the West Indies; in which case, the accounts that we are likely to receive from the Island to the northward must be still more distressing than those which have reached us from almost every part of this Colony. The only hope that remains for the safety of the other Islands, is the circumstance of the gale not having been preceded by any of the customary indications of the existence of bad weather to the northward, such as the setting in of a heavy sea, and the rapid passage of dense clouds from that quarter, for se veral hours previous to any material change in the winds, which not having been the case, in the pre sent instance, we still trust the dreadful effects of the hurricane may have been confined within a comparatively small circle, as frequently before has occurred on similar occasions. The indications of an approaching storm in this island, although sudden, were earlier in many situations than in others ; in some parts of the leeward country the threatening appearance com menced on Wednesday evening ; and two dro ghers belonging to the Colony were driven on shore at Satan so early as four o'clock on Thurs day morning. The chief indication in the town at day-light, was the rapid decline of the baro meter, which continued until about ten o'clock, when it became stationary at 29: 5.5; shortly after which it began to rise as rapidly as it had before fallen, and at one P. X. was 30 : 00-H which is the small range of that instrument in this climate. At day-break it was 29 :92 ; and the hygrometer, which, at tho same hour was 70, changed, before ten A. M. to 82, so that it had the appearance of being broken, from the ex traordinary manner in which it was affected by the humidity of the atmosphere. The quan tity of rain which fell, from noon until one P. M. exceeding two inches ; and the gusts of wind, from the South West, during that period were very •iolent, although the storm had then greatly sub sided. The thermometer was stationary at 76. The gale commenced from the North, shortly after day-light, but was not such felt by the town or shipping, until it went round to North-West, which was between seven and eight o'clock, when its violent effects were very destructive, u will appear from the following hasty summary. Of twenty sail of shipping that were at anchor in the bay, on the morning of the gale (including the ship Sarah Warde, and seven other square rigged vessels), but one only remained at hor mooring in the afternoon, namely, the brig Com merce, of this port, the masts of which had been cut away to secure her safety. Of the others, the ship Sarah Warde was the last that came on shore, about noon, off the old wharf, below the market place, and is totally wrecked, with greater part of a valuable cargo of sugar and produce, which she had on board, with an intention to sail for London to-day. The other vessels on shore are The brig Diamond, Stanely, of this port, on the beach in the market. Sloops Susannah, Lady Adventurer, sod Maus, nearly opposite the store of Messrs. Boyd, Skelly & Co.; And the following from the mouth of the South River to the Carpenter's yard, on the Eastern side of the Bay, namely : Brig St. 'Vincent, Hatchard, Bermuda, laden with fish, corn meal, and flour. Brig Neptune, Hughes, of Bermuda, pertly laden with produce. Brig Agenoria, Brown, of this port, European merchan- Brig Orleans, of Quebec, with a general cargo. Brig Dove, Cook, of St. Andrew's, lumber. Brig Emerald, Bogen, of Yarmouth. do. Schooner Henry Clay, (American), Elisabeth City, with a cargo of lumber, Ac. Schooners Barb adoes Packet and Aurora, of this pun. Sloops Ariel and Lady of the Isles, ditto. Schooners Sector, and Adelaide, ditto. Sloop Thetis, of Grenada, also, A small fishing vessel, the Emily, of this port, and Two valuable droghing boats, one belonging to the har bour muter, and the other to N. B. Cropper, Esq. In addition to the above, the sloop Fanny was thrown on shore at Grsathead's Bay, and sloops Despatch and William M'Caul, at Calliqua ; the schooner Delta at Crimean, and the Zephyr and sloop Shark at Bequia ; also the sloop Jane and a small schooner at Mnstique ; and the schooner Union and sloop Triangle, at the little island of Seven. We should be happy if even this frightful list of calamity and loss of pro perty, in the short space of a few hours, included the whole of the misfortunes which have befallen the shipping; but we regret the necessity of adding that little doubt exists of a vessel hai ing been totally lost during the gale near Aker's Point, which is described as a large achosiner, car rying a fore-topsail. The crew of this vessel must have been lost, as there was no possinility of saving them; and se' oral dead carcases of cattle have since •been washed on shore, a bich leads to the ropposition that he was laden with those an.- thals. The crew of the Sarah Warde were, for a considerable time, in imminent danger, Irons the difficulty of gctting a rope froth the vessel to the shore ; but this having been happily effected, after much paintul suspense to hundreds of per sons who crowded the beach, Captain Moore left the vessel, by ad haviser, about five o'clock, after seeing his crew safely landed by the same means. Very lew of the ve‘eek on rhos* are likely to be sawed; and the most' vAltable among diem being' dismayed; the expense of refitt:ng them, even if 'they could be got. off, would be very great. The greater part , are either embedded in the sand on the beach, or bilged in the saute situation. To describe the injury sustained on shore is lire- Wally impossible, es every hour brings come fresh account of the destructive effects of the gale, either in the loss of life or property, the latter to an in calculable extent at present. With very few ex ceptions, we may say that every plantation in the colony has suffered mere or less, by the unroofing of the works and negio houses, or the total de 'traction of both in many situations, particularly at the two e x t rem iti es o f the Island, both to wind ward and leeward. Many valuable dwelling houses on the properties in both these quarters have been destroyed or greatly damaged, particu larly at Owia, Waterloo, Lot No. 14, LknSley Park, Sans Souci, and the New Adolph'. wind ward; and Wallibou, Richmond, Fetit Bordel, Rose Hint, Cumberland, Millington's, and Bos- Itock Park, to leeward. Of the sugar works that are either wholly or greater part destroyed, we have heard of Calder Ridge, Wallibou, Richmond, and several others ; and only three or four dwel ling-houses remain standing in the town of Cha teaubelair. The steeple of the chapel of Cane Grove was thrown down, and materially injured the roof ; the negro houses and other light buildings in the same quarter, are much damaged, and the public road rendered nearly impassable from the over flowing of the river. As regards our public buildings that have sus tained more or less injury, we have to notice the breaking down of the bridge over Kingstown south river, the unroofing of the copper on nearly the whole esstern side of the church : the destruction of the front of the barracks and other buildings, which were in bad repair, on Dorsetahire hill, and of several of the galleries and other parts of the officers' quarters at Fort Charlotte. A few small houses, at the lower part of the town, have like- wise been thrown down, and many large trees in every part of the is►and are rooted up, or nearly destroyed from the effects of the hur ricane ! Immediately on the gale subsiding, a strong guard of the military was sent from the garrison, for the protection of property of every description scattered along the bay; and this handsome mark of attention on the part of the Commandant has been continued night and day, since that time, and has proved of great service in the prevention of plunder. Besides the melancholy lose of life recorded in this day's obituary, we have also to notice the death of Mrs. Jessie Douglas, from the fall of the dwelling house at Gwia ; and her eldest daughter had her arm broken from the same accident.— Eleven or twelve negroes were killed on the Cha raib country estates, and one or two other similar misfortunes hare been mentioned to us as having occurred in other quarters : casualties, of a less fatal character, have, no doubt, been very nume rous.—Royal Gazette. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, OCT. 5. TOTAL /MOT. The Royal Assent was given ea the Wine Duties Bill, the Administration of Justice in Ireland Bill, the Game Bill, the Coal Duties Bill, and a private Bill. The Com missioners were the Earl of t3haßesbury, the Lord Chancel lor. and Lord Holland. Sir J. C. Nommen then brought op from the Commons a bill to regulate the employment of apprentices and other young persons in cotton factories, &e. and the Asp:tents lion of Benefices Bill, and prayed the meanrence of the House of Lords therein. Lord HOLLAND presented petitions Awn the society of Odd Fellows in Nottingham, and from other places, in fa vour of reform. The Earl of SHA FTESBURY presented a petition from the Mayor and Corporation of 1.41113083t011, against the Re. form Bill The Earl of BRADFORD presented a petition from Bradford. against the reform bill. Lord HOLLAND presented one from Harwich in fivrota; of reform. and assured the house there was scarcely a maw in that town who was against the measure now before the house. The Duke of GORDON adverted to a petition which had been presented by the noble Earl (Ompmdown) last night from Aberdeen, in favour of reform, and begged to state that that petition did not speak the sentiments of the majority of that town, but that it had been got up by a few persons in the old town of Aberdeen. The Earl of CA MPERDOWN stated that the petition had been forwarded to him by a noble friend of his who was absent, and who, in trusting it to him, had assured him it was signed by most respectable individuals. He, therefore could Dot answer fat the truth of the statement, but he had reason to believe It was correct, for be saw the names of many very respectable persons to the petition. Lord AUCKLAND presented a petition front Greenwich, signed by 2400 persons, in favour of the reform bill. Lord LITTLETON presented a petkion from the Who. Wants of Dudley, in favour of the reform bill: Thimble Lord said this petition had been most unanimously and was signed by double the number of persona who the former petition, presented to the other house et paie iwint upon the same subject. Lord DACRE presented a petition from the gentry, elm. gy, freeboldets, and other inhabitants of the county et klommouth, *peed to at a meeting convened by the high sheriff; also a petition from the inhabitant householders of the town of Cambridge, both praying that the reform bill might be speedily passed into s law. , The Earl of RADNOR sod Lord CLONCURRY pee. seated several petitions in favour of reform, but we could anthem the places from wham they tame. .Lad PLUNKETT presented a petition from Grange O o sot, in favour of the reform bill ,The Duke of GRAFTON presented a petition from Ips wich, aligned by 1,810 praying the house to pass the reform bill ass ily as possible, the petitioners be lieving it to be the only means to ensure the prosperity of the country. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition from the Isle et ,Thanet against the bill. Loed.DACRE presented a 'petition from the freeholders of Nahlon,resident in.Loadms„..praying *eke Lordships to pam the:reform bill without alterations. Visceunt . CLIFDEN pesented a peskiest to th e mow effect fralaßirraws Ozolu no Earl of COVENTRY presenteialetkies Worcester. taped hp almost all the persons of weal* be that eity.,prayiog Abele lardddps not to pm she proem .Reforns.llo,. The:petitioners, however. were amebae to emcee *may nussureshort lathe present eseimbieb Might' •be brooglatt forward art the mbject of Reform. The•Nobif Earl immured mosicserdialky is dm sestimeole of dies& tioners, considering be should brst discharge his duty by voting against the present measure, which would have the effect of overturning all the acknowledged principles of the Constitution. His Lordship bad thought much on the sub ject, and had not made up his mind until af!er mature con sideration. A loog and deiultory discussion took place in conse quence of a complaint by Lord Cawdor of the hurtled tnatt ner in which, as we understood, the Aholition of Fees Bill had been read a second time last night. which ended in an arrangement that the subject should be discussed to. morrow. The Marquis of LANSD:SWNE presented two petitions from parishes in Buckinghamshire in favour of the Reform 13111. The Duke of CUMBERLAND possonted similar peti. does from a parish In Stafford. and from St. Mary Abbott's Kensington. Lord KING petitions in favour of the Bill from the Isle d Wlekt ; Chard, Somerset/hire ; West Ham ; and seven ether plates. Viscount MELBOURNE presented a petition from a pad* in Aberdeen in favour of the Reform Bill. Tho Noble Viscount aim moved for returns relative to popula -' The LORD CHANCELLOR presented petitions from Cordwainet's Ward, Wedneshury, Staffordshire; Ayr, and several other places, in favour of the Bill. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER presented a petition from Flintshire In favour of the Bill. Lord JERSEY presented a petition from Minehead against the BM Earl GREY presented a petition from Sr. Luke's, Chelsea, in which, although they considered themselves to have a claim, from the amount of their population, to a re presentative, they stated their anxiety that the Bill should pass in its present form, with the least possible delay. The Noble Earl also laid certain papers on the table relative to Po:coital. Lord WEIARNC LIPPE presented a petition from Ips. with against the Bill, sod stated, that although it had not been agreed to at any public meeting, it had in two days been signed by upwards of 400. The Duke of GRAFTON recalled the attention of their Lordships to the petition which he had presented from the same town, which had been agreed to at a public meeting called by the Chief Magistrate, and signed by upwards of 1,800 persons. Earl RADNOR said, as the Noble Lord opposite (Wbarneliffe) bad stated the petition was against Reform, be had been curious enough to read it, and their Lordships would be surprised to find that it merely serlouslyealled on the House to give it their attention, and to take care that the Sovereign's prerogative, their just rights, &c. were not Infringed.—(Hear). Lord WHA RNC LIF FE had another petition to present from merchants, bankers, and others, of the thy of London, against the Reform Bill. (Hear, hear, from the Duke of Cumberland.) It had been agreed on at a meeting called in consequence of the representations made as to the uni versal feeling in favour of Reform in the city. It was signed by 800 respectable householders, but he would yen. cure to say that it embraced a much pester proportion of the wealth and respectability of the city than the petition which bad been presented by the Noble Earl opposite. He would take that opportunity of observing upon the use that bad been made of a statement of kis, that had con siderably changed since the introduction of the When he alluded to Bond-street and St. James's, he did so at random, but he ventured to say, and would noble lords opposite an the point, that if they wen 4 t * h a tt en tC shops of any part of the City of London, Westminster, or lb* parish of Mary-le-bow, they would Had a universal ebeinking from the dangers the country was exposed to by tills mossure. Nay, further, universal blame was thrown as Government, for their baring proposed a measure re p_kte with such danga. People talked about revolution, and If the House would listen to a speech that had, it ap pond, been made very lately at a meeting of the Binning. him Political Union, they would find that a revolution had net only commenced, but advanced to a certain wage. The Noble Lord then alluded to the speeches of Mr. T. Hayes and Mr. Attwood. The Noble Lord was desirous of read ing a few words on the subject. This Birmingham Union was not satisfied with the usual reports of proceedings, but published their reports with a medal in front. If the lan guage held out at that meeting was not inthnidation and *oats, be knew not what it was. The Noble Lord read a impart of the proceedings of the meeting published in the mining papers, and marked the passage in which the gen damn Who addressed the mating had said " Resistance to tyrants will restore to us all our rights in the hands of the boroughmongers." The person, addressing 160,000 moo, asked whether the Lords would dare refuse to pees for bill? That the noble lord considered a threat. If the Lords exercised a constitutional right, these men told them they bad 166,000 men, and that the House of Lords dare net refuse to peas it. That he considered a threat. The whole tenor of the article to which he alluded went to the extent of saying—We are at the bead of 160,000 men, and if you do not pass the bill we will compel you. Having corn. mented en the speech at some length, the noble lord de clared that the sentiments of the speaker at that meeting amounted to most unconstitutional threats of physical force, in order to restrain the house from exercising its undoubted deliberative rights (bear). The speeches, too, held out delusive hopes to 150,000 enraged and agitated men, excited by these hopes to petition the House of Lords under the intimidation of physical force. He did believe that the country was anxiously looking for reform (Hear, from the ministerial bench.) He admitted it, (Hear) and was willing to go along with them so far as he could with safety to the institutions of the country. But from all be woo able to learn, be believed that in this town and district, as far as the present bill was concerned, If not a universal, there was yet a greet shrinking from the results that might follow its passing into a law. The LORD CHANCELLOR could not permit what had been said to dog th e whim which he had pre sented from without snaking a few observations, fat, as to the convenience of the course of proceeding miens ed by the noble lord who had just tat down. (Hear.) fie bed an opportunity already of delivering his send meats upon 'the Bill. He had been heard at great length, fully, and whit his charecteristic frankness. (Hear.) He had exhumed all be had to say, as reasons against the K the proposed measure. He had been answered, who ant be, by the common fate of speakers, and to the eine= fuse of speakers he had been obliged to yield, that ens to say his speech. had come to an end. (Hear and Imsgbleir.) Though it bad come to an end, extended and lablationgb it was, what did the Noble Lord do ? Did he wait dB a future stage of the Mater* f Did be delay it till a More oppertuniq ? No—but under—be (the noble nod Mimed lord) would not say a pretext, bet in the form of greinodng a petition to-night, be made a second speech wee t h e Am. (Hew, hear, from the . Opposition side of die Heuer.) The noble and learned lord beard it reechoed by an illustrious Duke—" He is tight." The Duke of CUMBERLA ND certainly did not re. edte any thing, not open his lim. The LOttDCHANCELLOR then would take that .11, 1 1 bud been re-echoed by some Noble Lord or Noble Lord% and he perfectly acceded to the cheer arid adopted this ciple, because, if at a future time he should find it q to adopt the practice of the Noble Lord, be slionitlennebily claim the privilege of doing so. With. respect to die= nt ler which the Noble Lord himself bad declared had assembled, the Blouse of Lords wee to g et emilon m l sons rbele because a part of those asiembled on don, - O Ono Individual, forsooth. bad used „e di rt i ZX 'intemperate know. if 'ibis , wege be . she . tee 'what what *as 'hi be liaid of the House of Locdp, ,wbei night lb the costae .ribititivoilipates 4411111:4°147 temperste—laniaago w ted nap pr , o(tawr langiseip which held net merely. pf bet 'of aernething very life capital: - feknyr.-llntnienes l ebeere fro the been used within the walk of that House. When nth longues, w 9 to be adopted in that House, be (the "Noble and learned lord) protested against imputations of unconstity....— ing what took place at Birmingham, becluse no individual had spoken intemperately. towards those honest men whose petition , ed lord presented to the house last night„to their own acts, than by the strain of any address the house Tae vary last art of b ►isting of thousands and tens of thousands. unanimous resolution not to pay tales, and for a bleeping on the head of their august would not follow his noble friend through hi Lions respecting the feeling of the Bond. James's-street shopkeepers, as probably h. lord was five minutes older than he really hear petitions presented fror the Inhabitants —(hear, and much cheering)—and if the • only name a few other streets and piste■, morrow petitions would be poured in ft -- places in favovr of the measure, without coining against it.—(Cheers.) Fad GREY protested against the injustice crime, if it were one, upon a whole body is ante of which one individual had been guilty, the case of the Catholic question, when similar las held, but which did not determine the noble dU'lte at the head of his Majesty's Government from bringing in the bill. He deprecated the useless occupation of their lordships' time by thus bringing on discussions respecting the general quet tion on the presentation of petitions. The noble lord oppo site denied that the general feeling prevailed with regard to the present bill, which other people entertained, but he did not deny the necessity of some reform. He (Lord Grey) however, believed, that a more general sentiment prevail, d now as to this measure, than had prevailed singe its introduc tion. The noble earl contended that die petition presented by the noble lord opposite,slgned by 800 person., could not speak the sentiments of the wealth and commerce of sn great a commercial city, and contrasted it with the petition from the city of London, which he had already presented, signed by 4JOlTTseisons. There were also in the petitions now be fore the house sufficient evidence that many persons who would not previously acknowledge these spistlens bad much altered their tone, and shown an inclinadon to acquiesce In some measure of reform. The history of the noble lord's petition was this :—The meeting at which it was signet was held at the Crown and Anchor Tavern, in consequence of an advertisement which appeared in a single morning paper. The merchants of London who signed the petition he had presented came forward publicly in the Egyptian Hall of the Mansion House, andannexal to linearly 51100 signatures. That petition spoke the sense of the merchants of London ; and the noble earl believed the people of Eng land generally were more disposed to have the bill than at any former period. (Hear, hear.) The noble earl next stated that he had been misunderstood in what he had stated. regarding any proposed alterations its the Reform Bill, be had nerer stated that he would admit of no alterations whatever, but that he could not admit of any alterations affecting its efficacy ; and also that if it were de feated, he never would propose one less efficient. But any alteration, of the Bill would depend upon their Lordships, and as the noble lord admitted the necessity for Reform, he should allow it to go into Committee, and there propose his alterations. Many noble Peers opp osed this Bill who as sented to the disfranehi-envan of boroughs gone to decay. and assented to the principle of transferring the franchise to large towns and the extension of franchise in counties. Why that was the very principle of the Bill.—(lead cheers.) The rest was but a question of degree. It, however, in the Committee they should propose alterations inconsistent with the principles of the Bill, and make it a delusion on the people, he was determined to oppose them. —(Clews. fie Kari of HADDiNG TON rose to defend hit noble friend (Lord IVltarncliffe) in the complaint that noble friend had made of the threats held out at the linnirgliain Union meeting. His noble friend had properly brought tilo.d threats under the consideration of the house. lie could n..t allow that the sentiment in favour of the bill had been so strong in the city of London as the noble eailht lieved it was. At several meetings in the city of London the most respecta ble_persons amongst the mercantile classes had not been seen. 'The Duke of BUCKINGHAM admitted that the sins of one man at a public wetting were nut to be viaitod upon Ile many. He could ant believe that the peon!. of England would be induced by any demagogue to sacrifice the comet tution ; but he would call nn the nob!, end,, that the lin. pap used was the language of a union a pith which hi (the noble earl) had correspn :dud. He bad - seen the publication of a letter Ban the noble earl to that Political Aciety.—. With respect to the allusions made by the noble earl to his own spsseklis would say the words wed by ehr imble red ' were these—" Your lordships must take this bill, or some other measure MOM dange rous , which you may nut be sale to resist." (Hear, hear .) Lord PLUNKETT said, every person of common sense most know that if the House rejected that which was lair and reasonable, they must expect to have that which sae unfair and unreasonable pressed upon them. The Noble ' Bann had stated, that at a meeting of 180,000 persons some individual had resorted to threats, but to make the whole of that meeting answerable for the words of one man, was, in ' his opinion, a magnificent deduction frost common sense. I Lord TENTERDEN rose to order, and reminded tie House that there Was to question before the house. Earl GREY assured the Noble and Learned Lord that there was a question, namely, "That a petition do lie on ' the table." The Earl of WICKLOW adverted to the proceedings of tire Birmingham meeting. It was said that as Mr. Hemp. ton formal] refused to pay ship money, so would the speaker refuse to pay taxes it' the bill should not pass. TM gentleman then said, all who agree with me hold up our hands, and 150,000 bands were held up. This was not the act of an individual. . 10 Pe_ .- . ~ .. i ( - 1 :. , „ ~. iit i..... ;, .. ....-,,.... p • ....s, atr r F:.L ' '. ; 'f r.a. • ' -....- • i , proceeiinzs, it• tem, - I ,- muse it 5.111 , 2,4 tit .t k It was nut.- fa , ' ; ' s the nohl.: cut lean.- „to judge of them by r speaker whet might fl ' that assem'aly, con • uds. was come to an i and devoutly to pray .' t vet Sovereign. . lie I i rh his other observe- t.. lond-strect and St. , tly before the noble •eally was, he would itants of tter .4trce• i .he noble lord would es, probably by to. from those identical s ut any being forth- 1. injustice of fitting a dy for the inttmper- .: guilty, and instanced similar language was 'e noble duke at the i s bringing in the bill. their lordships' time ng the general goes- i Ile noble lord opi.n- ailed with regard to I . artained, but he did 1. He (Lord Grey) sentiment prevail, d led since its introduc- II s petition presented by lions, could not speak i mere of so great a th the petition frosn dy presented, signed 1 the petitions now be- PRICE SEYENP!N'E. The LORD CHANCELLOR said the noble lord had communicated disagreeable information, but he could not say them was any breach of the peace. The Earl of ELDON said, no man was more unwilling than himself to say a meeting was to answer for the words of one man; but, if at a meeting moving about the country, one individual holding out improper language to 100,000, might be 'labial to the law. It the offence had not come under the consideration of the law ofEeers, they had not done their duty to the country. There must have been some mo tive for passing over such thine. The noble sod learned lord appealed to the Lord Chief Justice, whether, if hands were held up at a meeting in assent to an unlawful propo sition, every one of those Individuals was not guilty of a breach of the law I The LORD CHANCELLOR interposed, and said if any illegal act bad been 'committed at the meeting under discussion, perhaps his noble and learned friend ander the gallery (Lord Tentacles) might have the trying of it. Lord TENTERDEN said Hide noble and learned friend on the Woolsack had not previously explained in the manner he had already done, be should have taken proper steps to prevent any misunderstanding of the matter going be fore the public. Lord WHARNCLIFPE said be should be sorry if it went teeth to the wotid that he had said a whole meeting should be liable far the words of one man. He begged to all the attention of the noble and learned lord, however, to a resolution paned at this Political Union, when the hands of the parties attending et had been held up in sup ' port of a nen.payment of taxes if the present Bell should ! not pass their lordships' boss*. If such meetings were allowed to exist, and agree to such rem/untrue, there was an end to the power of the government of the country. LordHOLLAND °bowed, that the suns noble lord (Whanedifik) had repeatedly used des same exposition in relation to the helk Association . ; but in recant, to the measure of Pim Weir, and be might be out of elder in spe a king on that Inestion at present, he could fancy certain nobie lords tad adds dukes, now loudest in exp.essions of disgust and lion spinet that measure, coming down to tip end Ann stating now that it was revolu tionary, at mime Elston per say, " That they found a cu. between tie House of Commons and the Peers of the realm tueziatond that the government of the country could not be carried on without it ;" let us, these noble lords and senhleckkes might then say, " let us new draw you through the mire, after baring bespattered you." (Chests and laugh. ter.) He limdfl *el fancy all this. The quer-ion at present was a vliste gedsdee, and was it not better to disesia it now &Wye IS esedlis isr the fist dme before the horse, than to have it forts 01l depth Views afterwards y The Delis of wzbusoroN said nothing could be in the noble lords oppose:, to )craw. dues into the Pnifilli . deSate Anal= to former transactions; it u rhat &meg*, :were . they 2. He rather thought,: in re tette 4e be had ex ones gained the good 'Salon of the'llttlelfr pe t t llFAlp. ,firiefite etralem ewhel p:re. mxtey Wean ebetaaeeftipat letiodeang tiaptee'retattagto thaleiribfflevals oaten.. If iskirffs- Ott . i! T io tt i r ot heZ .l. Ao* . .Yves ***demon, and • the (td Where. cafe) be estlllalW a He was son. viand that the law of tbs would be Prong ercugh • for el them threats held one at B Ingham and elsewhere;