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FRIDAY, NOVEIMIER 30, 1810. 1, - 1 r 1111 r, 740 6-1 (PACE SAPENCE-HAIJ-PENNY p,IRLIAME247ARr PROVEED!NGS. the House *as now arrived at that point at which no further steps should be taken, unless the necessity of such proceedings were in full proof before them • that was not the case, he contended, at prebent, the them; of Parliament could not act, though he did not pro- fess to be profoundly read in the Constitution, with out the concurrent authority of the Crown. What ever unavoidable steps they should take must be called for by the absolute necessity -of the case. He then took a detailed view of the precedent of 1788, and argued that an unnecessary and unwholesome detiation from that precedent had taken place. They had not sufficient evidence before them to warrant the proceeding urged by the Noble Earl, and so strongly did he feel on this point that he should enter his solemn protest aga nst it. He deemed it the bounden dutrof the House to take the only method which remained, and that was to ascertain, by the best possible effdence the of Mount to setting, for a time, h e Sovereign aside ? (A loud cry from hie Oitiitiox Side of 144, ao, no.) The Noble Earl continued hoe of argument, when • Lord HOLLAND rose, and said, he could not silently hear such assumptions. The Noble,Earl had no right to impute to those Peers who opposed , the question of adjournment to set aside the Sovereign from his Throne. For in no mittr sense could he understand him. Did the N..ble Lord persist Fn such an iinpatation, he would move to huve his words taken down. !I vy , ' OF LORDS, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 44). 1 1 of K iLLA Loa took the oaths and his seat. 1 C. , LOW was introduced between Earl Moira and Lord and took the oaths and Ilk seat. The Noble Lord :,r.t.tded by the Earl Marshal aad Garter King at Armi. Ili) MAJESTY ' S INDISPOSITION. ;y titer five o'clock, the attendance being re full, CAMDEN (as President of the Conn ^) wag p , :,ccediilg to lay the Report of the Privy respecting the examination of the Royal toucling the indisposition of his Majesty; ~,s n, ,, ,prved by one or two of their Lord- L:..: table, that such a proceeding could , mcler the present circumstances,. take yr Iv;lliqui the t,rder of the House. After a few • Lord Grenville and the Noble• Earl, The Earl of HARR.OVirBY resumed, and obser ved the Noble Lord seemed to wish to visit the sins of others upon his head ; but he could not regard it as perfectly fair to take such a bold of language which fell from him while giving vent to his feeliogs. In concluding, he observed, that the steps adopted in this crisis seemed to him the hest calculated to save the country, and preserve its constitution inviolate. The Marquis of ABERCORN strenuously main tained the doctrines laid down by Earl Harrowby.— There was nothing in them to justify the charge of improper or unconstitutirmale there was nothing it - them kit What might'be consi:lered as merely vetbali and it could not be denied that the Sovereign was.put . aside as lopg as the Regent exercised the Royal au-i thority. ' Lord HOLLAND contended, on the other hand, j that if such an use was to be made of the King's name in the debates of that House, there would be an end I to all freedom of discussion. With regard to the ques tion now before their Lordships, he did not believe) that there coald have been one man capable of ad vancing t'.e doctrine that proposed a further suspen. pension of the Eicecutive eewer for fourteen days.— He did not believe, at least, that any of his colleagues • would have stood up, and ventured to support so strange a proposition. In defence of it, he was sure they had not adduced a single argument. In support of it they pretended, indeed, to bring forward some facts, but when what they chose to call facts, were duly examined, they would be found to be mere spe culations. The only fact necessary to be proved was that of the King's incapacity ; and after the lapse of another fourteen days, what more were they likely to attempt to prove than that his Majesty was still in competent to the exercise. df the Royal functions. In the interim, to what difficulties and dangers, espe cially at a moment already so big with every species of embarrassment, were they not likely to expose the country ? This was matter for their Lordships most serious considera;ion. The Earl of WESTMORELAIstD could not but consider the present qdestion as one of, the moss im portant that had ever oecurred. He wished he could have heard it discussed With that temper and farness which a point of such delicacy and importance must so aaturelly have called for. Nothing, howler, was; heard but accusations against his Majesty's Minister* of repeated adiournmenes, and ,uaneeessary. delays. —Had Ministers, however, been anxious to protract or defer the discussion of the question, might they not have adjourned at once to this day, agreeably to the manifestation of his Majesty's pleasure, t iken to that . e ff ect, and of the Order in Council a made out for further adjournment to the 29th in ' stant-1 This line of the conduct they had adopted, not from any wish to retain their places ' • on the con ' trary, they boldly met Parliament, and betrayed nol other anxiety than that their conduct Might be guided ' - hy the wisdom and the judgment of the great Council of the Nati o n. If their 'Lordships then granted that time an adjournment of fourteen ' days upon what grounds viTs a similar adjournment Ow to be op posed ? in what situation were heir Lordships placed ? . The Physicians attending his Majesty have been examined, and theT are unanimously of-opinion that stronger hopes may yet he entertained of his Majeity's iccovery. Did the Report of the Physi cians in 1788 state such confident expectations ? No ; the Physicians had dam but little or no expectations of the King's recovery, and his Majesty had then been ill more than six weeks. A proceeding should there fore not be instituted exactly on the grounds of the proceedings in 1788. Besides e were we to forfeit the many blessings of his Majesty's reign ; the many be nefits conferred on the country for the long period of fifty years ? This was a feeling with which the people of . England were strongly impressed. He did not, however, mean to reit the merits of the question on the emotions of gratitude and affection for the So vereign ; he was willing and disposed to argue it on the ground of political expediency and national utility. It was not how long, how many hiaurs, how many mi nutes, the throne was vacant that should be inquired, but what was it which a sound discretion should incline us to adopt. In 1788, the discussions which took place branched into various views. Some supposed the Regency to devolve of right on the Heir Apparent ; others contended that the right of disposing.of it 'be longed exclusively to the two Houses of Parliament. There was now no necksity of entering into those points. But to use a proper discretion in filling up the' vacancy of the Royal Power, when the necessity of such a proceeding should be clearly ascertained. Lord DARNLEY was strongly against a further adjournment of fourteen days. Were such men as those who composed thepresent administration to con tinue in the full exercise of the royal authority for a fortnight loreer, when the country was involved In every sort of 'danger, difficulty, and embarrassment ? It was establishing a most dangerous precedent and example. It was trying a most perilous and hazard ous experiment to continue so long the suspension of the royal authority. impressed with such a view of the case, he could never bring himself to acquiesce in the motion of adjournment: Lord G RENVILLE had listened with equal at tention and anxiety to the debate, but had not heard a single argument adduced to justify the conduct of Ministers, or the manner in *which it was proposed thus to turn their Lordships hick upon. the King and country. When their Lordships' last Met, it was his unfeigned and ardent with dirt such savors t of order, a motion to that effect was case would admit of, the degree of necessity that actu existed for the further proceedings of Parliament, n ie, ;,....,1 the Report ordered to be laid on the table ally withont the concurrence of the Roal Authority x orciiiTi,!. . The steps adopted in 1788, shpuld - beihe present rule It wa s toen or..ered to be read, on the motion o 6 p e: Eel of LIVERPOOL. which was'accordinglw la their. conduct, and an.ixeminatittnThf the Royal of the as to the malady with which the Sove i by the Rcidine - Clerk. —Vide crew Report reign wes efilicted,'should take ala'ele • svith as little Pr • , :ho_zs of the House of Commons.) lii' C.ork having finished tile reading of the Report, further 'delay as possible: The 111%1e Secretary The Karl i.i . LIVERPOOL called the serious at te' ;)i their Lordships to the most important do moot whicli had been just read. On the face of founded his motion upon these three points, which he li asserted arose out of the Examination. In Ms first , point ; that of the Regal incapacity, he unfortunately 'had to agree with him ; but as to the remaining eximiination, he observed, th:ee material facts :r e evil nt, each of which he had to press to the !points, he did not think them sufficiently established for the }louse to act upon. • The Report before them ins ideration of the House.. The first was, that the . was not sufficient. He wished to put the fact upon -sereien was, in his present state, incapable of meet :the Journals, on which they might justify. any further r hi:Pal-Lament, or of exercising the Royal func -6 T h e secon d . proceedings. In the present state of the case, they were ohs in the tt tnsaction of public business. imperiously called upon as soon as possible to consider .as, that 0 e most confident and well-grounded hopes ! of the best means to remedy the detect in the constitu tion entertained of his Majesty's recovery and restore- ! . tional system which now unhappily existed : this it was ton to his former state of health. The third point seeted the time in which it was probable such re their bounden duty to do; theyshoutd consider the pre ;sent state and circumstances of the Empire, and the well would take place. On this head, no specific greatl dangerwhich more than probably m ust attend its ;me or period was held out ; but it eas certain that a overnmentof being longerdeprived of a constitutional rinsic:eralle amendment had taken place. It would ! $ k for the determination of their Lordships what 1 head; they should consider the eventful circumstances ia which the country was placed, and the importance arse, under the circumstances of the case, it would of a regular and efficient Government at such a pe sx:nost fitting and proper to pursue. He agreed with they should not delay a moment in proceeding iNoble Banat in what he had stated on a former . tiqd ; ;:gbt, that the present question should be regarded to remedy the defects, and under this conviction he iy .s a choice between difficulties. No man must oppesethe Noble Lord's motion. The proposed ' adjournment was net warranted by any thing before ih! le. mow sensible than himself of the inconve the House, and, even by the Noble Lord's admission, ienc , s :esuiti;:g from a suspension of the personal tee's? of the royal authority. No man could be was ill founded and useless, as at its expiration he !i: at the same time to these inconveniences, avowed himself willing to adopt a mode of proceed rhich must unavoidably result from the establish- .:. ing. which in every point of view:had better be enter au of a now authority in the State. From the ed upon without delay. He should therefore move, ! in the way of amendment to the motion, ~ that a Se- videice before thene, they had every reason to con-lect Committee be appointed to examine the Physi .-.h thet such :reestablishment, were it resolved chins attending on his Majesty, respecting his Ma e L.) be necessary, would be but of temporary ditra : jesty's state of - health, and to report the said exami itersn ; and their Lordships must all feel the inconve nation to the House." in:s which must unavoidably result from such a seas.ed'.ee. The: would bear in Mind, that this After a short pause, on the putting of the question • eeestion of difficulties, and the House on the amendment, Earl MOIRA observed, that when their Lordships .. toivador, whethl.er, under all the circumstances, ! tricsid t.e more advisable to proceed -immediately, i last met, he had felt it his duty to second the motion r sitetht,r, by interposing some degree of further ; made by the Noble Secretary of State for adjeurn flay, they would trust to the chance of being able i ment, but he did so on the precise implied condition ta areid those .iicoe'veniences to which be had allu- that the essential forms of proceedings which the pc ht. In his view oi the case, their Lordships should, ; culiar circumstances of that moment appearecho jus tenighout the whole of their proceedings, bear i tify the want of, would be effectually supplied ; and ii mind the principle that governed the precedents because, though he coulduot admit that such a course tf I7PS an d 179. Th e re may esist, he achie of proceeding was entirely without danger, he did not . led, circumq:inces, which tended to vary the state lconsider that the danger was of a magnitude to super of thir T s since that period, and :ray render a dare- I sede the• other considerations, immediately pressing ant application of that principle advisable.--but the lon the minds of their Lordships' considerations, Principle itself which govet ned their proceeding s should involving all the sympathies of afflicted and pious al e the same. In the case which occurred in 1788, fection, and for the indulgence of which some sacri tinilar proceedings to the present wcre adopted. The lice of convenience might not improperly he yielded. examinations before the Privy Council were then, as But if the measure even then was not unaccompanied tow, laid upon the table. Ai adjournment of four days with danger, the danger arising now from the pro was then passed, for the purpose of considering ul. posed further prorogation, he considered' pregnant tenor peoceedings. The next step adopted was, the with serious and alarming danger. With respect to examination of his Majesty's Physicians by Commit- the report which had been read from the Physicians, tees of both Houses of Parliament. With respect to Ministers could deduce nothing from it, but ground this mode of proceeding, howtver, as applicable to. of speculation. They had spoken of three facts, but the present case, he thought some material differences 'they were speculations merely. , His Lordship could existed, betwe en t h e p r e s ent and the occasion of 1788, not give his vote for the motion or the Noble Secretary, which, in his judgment, rendered it advisable to in- without forfeiting all title to the confidence and opi terpose a farther delay than that of fceir days. .In the nion of the public. Nor could the Ministers them healer case, the indisposition of his Majesty had con- selves, even had they all that popularity pf which 1 tinkled considerably longer than in the present instance. they are notoriously destitute; escape' the heavy cen- In the second place, though at that period strong sure of all men, who were at all conversant with the hopes were entertained (.1 ultimate recovery, yet it nature and principles of the Constitution. His Lord did not then appear that any amendment had actually ship concluded by saying, that lie should cordially sup- taken place at the time, and, as far as the evidence Port the proposition of his Noble Friend, Earl Spencer. ~,c,. ~ .- a nt, this was apparent. The Report of the 4. Lord HARROWBY contended that Ministers had o:vie..nce this day decidedly stated the onion of all unjustly been ac cused of de p artin g from the wisdom :!.c Plae,icians to be, that a considerable amendment of the precedents which had been afforded for their ;tad actuaily taken place. A third consideration conduct in the acts of 1788. He denied that his Ma- Was, that at the former period, t h e h a d not t h e jest Y's servants in acting as they had done were as. advantage of judging what would be the termini- isuming any undue powers. If the dangers froth the lion of his Majesty's indisposition, by any analogy i suspension of the royal functions were great, those .rom'what took place on a previeus occasion, and daegert had occurred before, and were guarded which advantage, in point of experience, the Physi- against by measures similar to those which had now Mans have an: the present occasion. Upon the censi- been taken. A suspension of the royal functions was detation of all these circumstances, he felt it would I not a dissolution , and u nder such a tem p orar y suspen ic desirable to move an adjournment for a longer pe-Ision the affairs of government might go on without rigs than was propene& in the case of 1788. This he injury for a certain tittle. The motion of his Noble :cued it his duty to propose the House to do at` . Friend was meant to afford the most satlefactory in rrie,rise v:itli an understanding, that ifat the expiration formation to their Lordships and to the country,.and 1 the interval he should now propose. trim should iin the well founded hope, that there may be no neces znt be such a favourable change as to induce the hope sity for setting Aside the monarchy—(Here thsre was of a speedy restoration of the personal exercise of the ; a loud try of Order! Ortkr !) Royal functions, he should sleein it his further duty j Lord GRENVILLE here rose to speak to order. to move for an Examination of the Royal Physicians, I The Noble Earl had no right to use such language. as adopted in the case or 1784. This he trusted, ;hey ; nor assume such inference, it Was impossible that any s w ta eoid, upon a due consideration of all the circum• ; Noble Lord . in . that House c o u l d p ro p ose a measure Stances of the case, rerrard it as their truest pu bli c lending to set aside the legitimate Sovereign of the y to con cur Jut i n . He e would therefore beg leave:to country. Under such an assumption, on the part of yn6ve, " That ibis House do; at its yising, adjourn to any Noble Lord, he could not sit silent. Did he live Thursday, the 13th day of December." • to.hear itch words used in that House, as that any de- On the (inetion being p ut — sign was entertained to set aside their lawful Monarch! . . E r SPENCER rose, and at some length delivered The Earl of HARROWBY explained that the his sentiments on the question before their Lordships Noble Baton did riot seem to understand his meaning; After briefly touching but he could not avoid asking Was not such a measues upon the proceedings. which trite liithertes adopted s -Ite ea s ee d,ess • • t h a t as the Mgt Lords appeared to contemplate tanta. Fe ormolu, 1 IS to tilt 'S t•;1L •.* • *it'l A • . . . ..- ----wwwwinpur .• - • ' . • - • - - • • - • . . .6momrsommit ~..........i. . ~ . • FRIDAY, IN, ‘PIENCE-1. '-PINDIT. . _ . .:-....-- . - - - `r.' EED!NGS. the House *as now arrived at that point at which no • th, ly to tnet Ault further steps should be taken, unless the necessity of (Aloe. crisis, se. ''EMBER 40. such proceedings were in full proof before them; that Noble Ea. Ministers • seat. was not the case, he contended, at present, the Houses * Lord HO').. V. DOW ft -a and Lord of Parliament could not act, though he did not pro- silently hear men bin it wa bee Lord fess to be profoundly read in the Constitution; with- no right to impute L. 'rap the IL MS. out the conctirrer.t authority of the Crown. What- question of adjournmen. 'I, that n ,_ ever unavoidable steps they should take must be from his Throne. For in ns ', at the , called for by the absolute necessity of the case. He understand him. Did the N.,bk. mlibilr P "en took a detailed view of the precedent of 1788, an' imputation, he would move to Ictions, lt, ' argued that an unnecessary and unwholesome taken down. nseens et 'on from that precedent had taken place. They The Earl of HARR.OVirBY resumed, 8. ', adopt sufficient evidence before them to warrant the ved the Noble Lord seemed to with to visit tit, newels urged by the Noble Earl, and so strongly of others upon his head ; but he could not regard . lion& this point that he should enter his solemn as perfectly fair to take such a hold of language which I • 'sty t •-. Hedeerned it tliebounden dutrof the fell from him while giving vent to his feelings. In ;'No, ',S. only method which remained, and concluding, he observed, that the steps adopted in I duals, 1. re by the best possible evidence the this crisis seemed to him the hest calculated to save I and the Cot. .! degree of necessitY that actu- the country, and preserve its constitution inviolate. I and to assume .. - proceedings of Parliament, The Marquis of ABE RCORN strenuokLly main-! ships, but the pet. 'f the Royal Authority twined the doctrines laid down by Earl Harrowhy.— ! King himself. His 1., luldbe the present rule i There was nothing in them to justify the charge of! distinction bitween the cu. -add; of the Royal ' improper or unconstitutinnal'• there was nothing it iof Parliament in the years 1-r, which the Sove- -them kit What might'be con.icicred as merely vetbal, 'of the r tealtst—tditstifters. The s. , '--1 • with as little and it could not be denied that tteSovereign was.put ! incapacity was' at the former period L. '4e Secretary aside as lopg as the Regent exercised the Royal au. land acknowledged by the high authon. which he 1 thority. ' 1 late Lord Camden and. others, as the onk) Ms first Lord HOLLAND contended, on the other hand, f and proper ground oft which the Parliament ck. lately that if such an use was to be made of the King's name I proceed. He would not accuse Ministers of at 'log 1 in the debates of that House, there would be an end 1 fecting reriblirmism, but their conduct had a di .l to all freedom of discussion. With regard to the ques- i rect and inevitable tendency to create the most despe tion now before their Lordships, he did not believe I rate republicanism. There was no possible case in ',at there coald have been one man capable of ad- which the States could be assembled, no st p that -ing f-e doctrine that proposed a further suspen. I they could take, unauthorised by the regal sanction, lof the Eicecutive 1...,wer for fourteen days.-1 unless the necessity of the ease were clearly made outs of believe, at least, that any of his colleagues ! and recorded in the Journals ; and without such dc stood up, and ventured to support so dared necessity, all acts of such Assembly WAS usur losition. In defence of it, he was sure potion. His Lordship rep'a:ed, ti. at the manner in arced a single argument. In support which the 'House had been led to agree to the last 1, indeed, to bring forward some adjournment, Was surreptitious ; and concluded by • they chose to call facts, were , giving his d'cided negative to the motion of the ould be found to be mere spe- 1 Noble Secretary. necessary to be proved was I The LORD CHANCELLOR left the Woolsack. t ; and after the lapse of i His Lordship said it was impossible for him to enter 'ore were they likely to in a comparison •of the measures adopted in former Majesty was still in. years, when he was called on to cn'hsider the situation yid functions. In of the country, under a calamity which he felt se ' dangers,'espe- verely, in consequence of his official situation.— every species Tolook forward in eapectation of a favourable change expose the was the best consolation, his Lordship flit, for 'us most the diaretion with which he had acted. The Noble Baron who had just sat down, had, in his Lordship% but opinion, mistaken what had been said by his Noble 1 Friend. When he mentioned the letters, he men, coned them for the purpose of' putti..g their Lord '•ips in possession of facts, and if he had done og in putting the Great Seal to Letters Pettit, mentioned because their Lordships ought to s!.n that he had done wrong. His Lordship 4 to the law with respect to the Executive Monarch. Hi'coulsl not deny that the Ne country was hereditary ; that be " infancy, and that nothing could At what the law had given him. -y in which it was notorious, 'ouse could act in his legis -ottsent of the King ' milli. with the Head of the "wired. nate who ;se of their duty il 9 the precedents •k"d to guide "he exercise ' it in the !lon to ' for might be proposed as were likely to Meet with that unanimity which, at the present crisis, WAS so pecu liarly desirable. A. that time, if Minitters had pur posed to pursue the steps they were now taking, it would hare become them to say so; but it was mani festly their inteetion to deceive and entrap the House. The Noble Secretary of .State had said, that if the state of his Majesty's health should still, at the pe riod ofathe proposed adjournment, nnhailpily pre vent hitn from the exercise of his regal fuoctions, he should .be ready to propose some specific means of proceedin:t. But why not at once, and now, adopt the essential and only means of taking any measnrege by agreeing to ascett.iin, in a legal and constitutional` way, before their-Lordships, his Majesty's incapacity •No, his Majesty's Ministers, eleven or twelve indivi duals, presume to set themselves above this Hones and the Constitution, to dictate *hat it oiight to do, and to assume not only the guidance of their Lord ships, but the peculiar and exclusive care of the King himself. His Lordship pointed out a material distinction bitween the ecintluct of Government and of Parliament in the years 1768 and 1789. and that of the Trtexent - tdheititers. The facteaLtlito-Kinar's incapacity seta' at the former period 'distinctly stated and acknowledged by the high authorities of the Lite Lord Camden and . others, as the only legal and proper ground oft which the Parliament could proceed. He would not accuse Ministers of af fecting republicinism, but their conduct had a di rect and inevitable tendency to create the most despe rate republicanism. There WAS no possible case in which the States could be assembled, no steep that they could take, unauthorised by the regal sanction, unless the necessity of the ease were clearly made out. and recorded in the Journals ; and without such de clared necessity, all acts of such Assembly VAS usur pation. His Loidship rep'a:ed, ti.at the manner in which the 'House had been led to agree to the last adjournment, was surreptitious ; and concluded by *hying his dtcided negative to the motion of the Noble Secretary. The LOR D CHANCELLOR left the Woolsack.' His Lordship said it was impossible for him to enter in a comparison •of the measures adopted in former years, when he was called on to cn'hsider the situation of the country, under a calamity which he felt se verely, in consequence of his official situation.— Tolook forward in expectation of a favourable change was the best consolation, his Lordship fit, for the diAretion with which he had acted. The Noble Baron who had just sat down, had, in his Lordship% opinion, mistaken what had been said by his Noble Friend. When he mentioned the letters, he men , tioned them for the purpose of putti..g their Lord- ships in possession of facts, and if he had done wrong in putting the Great Seal to Letters Patna, it was mentioned because their Lordships ought to have knottn that he had done wrong. His Lordship then alluded in the law with respect to the Encodes Passer of the Monarch. Hi - could not deny that the Monarchy of the country was hereditary ; that be WAS King even in infancy, and that nothing could take from the Monarch what the law had given him. They lived in a country in which it was notorious, that no subject of that House could act in his legis lative cap:city without the consent of the King, with , out that poltical agreement with the Head of the Constitution, which the law required. Thtihe who were not acquainted with the exercise of their duty a case like the present, ought to refer to the precedents of Parliament, which hasi been constituwd to guide the subjects of the realm. With respect to the exercise of Royal Authority during the suspension of it in the Sovereign, the Ministers were to submit the question to the discretion of Parliament, acting in sound mind for the benefit of the country; and his Lordship observed, " I never' will turn my hack on my Sovereign and Country. Goo forbid that the Privy Council should by any act declare the King incapable—they have no such power."—They bad to•consider In theory, whe ther the King by law, which gave him capability, was capable of acting up to that point which the Cons& tution had distinguished. His Lordship then entered into a vindication of the measures adopted by Go' vetnment, and contended that the proceedings in 1788 were analogous to the present. That the object id that instance was delay, in order to provide foe the • safety of the country with the greatest precaution ; and it was the same policy which prevailed with Mi nisters on the present occasion. Lord ERSKINIL—" My Lords, we are here sesdnbiett to comities what our duty f., and to give the best counsel we an; but it - appears to some, that dims differences now among ashore little to do with oar present concerns. I revere die meredness of ear Constitution, which tells as the K./Rs /seen. tow Though his body be consigned to the dust; yet the Throne Is MK mist Majesty keeps up its vigour, its energy, and *worms" Yet yod forbear allowing--you pour forth all Tour eloquence, Nelms this noble thought of ever-during Royalty !—you wish to enemies a jorisdiction you have no tight to t!O! The Privy Cpnocil and Physicians most decide, Whether the Ring be a king or not?— While you are satisfied the King is biespable of using the powers of royalty, you can have no right to sit here. You wish to adjeorn for a fortnight ! yet, can you pledge yourself the King will be bet ter, did we allow that adjournment ? But, my Noble Lord on the Woolsack, allow Me to adt you, Do you see any alteration in the King's health yourself ? Yob Cainot answer me and yet yew are afraid of deicing him by our resolutions to a reloptis. b was proposed by my Noble Friend, that' sQ Monday mat tbe Physb clam should be called before us for minimills. We would then find out the true state of his bealth s. and know how mace. Should their report be unfavourable, It wield then bed to the States to fill the Royal *Bee ; till then wrists,* no riot to act, or to do any thing. You scarcely cannot think the Ernes &Mho& thy casts, when his capacity is gonr." Lord S EANHOPE said, the Noble I.Ord had told th'ef't the King was incapable—he never doubted it; but is the evidence of the Phteislans any evidence at ail ? The nation is looking Du d and we are examining Physicians! What ism Ice Ministry dons against invasion t ShuOki k happen, what are then our Barb. Mates t Will not our tyadestuen rained and lose, hold aim to our eyes ; andshould we not become the mutt spl.:ndid Marva' hi the country ? be Marquis of •LAN'SDOWNE, animadverted on the aerie meat of tbe. Lord Chancellor, and said. it was proposed to mate them commit the crime of abeothening the century. witik the Executive GovernMent was totallyluspenda The Doke of SUSSEX hoped for ht. Royal' Pattier's somitery, and expressed his intention to support the moths. .Tbe Question was then put .irom the Win/hack s wbsS the Home dividoloticouteats teats Ai. , . - Herr 7406] • "LVENTAR7aPROVA go ttsE OF LORDS, THURSDAY, Hlni) of KtLI.A was . LOt took the oaths a oft edbetween E • in and took the satin and lib; seat „,:r,c u e . tletl' by •be Earl Marshal aad Garte j MAJESTY'S INDISPOSITI ',n. ;y• after five o'clock, the atte: full, oal of CAMDEN (as Presic - wag p , .-,ceediUg to lay the Repo :ottnci`„ respecting the examinatiot , • toucling the indispositior ~,s i :..c.orved by one or • tw( i .-t• table, that such a p . . tinder the present cif( w;1•191li • orde r of the Hous .1i , :11 Lord Grenville and - 6 to th :nt of order, a motion tt the Report ordered to be s cordiog . . It was t:ien 0r...4 - ed to- be read, or E 4-1 of LIVERPOOL. which Lv the Rcading - Clerk.-7( Vick I p r of :1w House of Commons.) C.erk having finished the readi The Rail et . LIVERPOOL can of thee Lordships to the mu moot which had been just read. e extlatination, he observed, the 2 ere rvi.k nt, each of which he had ,asideration of the House.. The f ;vco was, in his present state, it - his Pal- or of exercising orts in the ta:tnsaction Of public bust as, that 0 e most confident and wet re entertained of his Majesty's ma on to his former state of health. potted the time in which it was very would take place. On this e or period was held out ; but it I risi6eralle amendment had taken k for the determination of their csrse, under the circumstances of t atmost Ruing and proper to pursue :Noble Bunn in what he had st that the present question she .•s a choice between diffic mow sensible than himsel ienc: e,a,iti;:g from a suspensim of the royal authority. Ts sip at the same time to thet !rich must unavoidably result frc -.au cif a new authority in the .ide:lce before then, they had evi 'Loie that such an,establishment, a to be necessary, would be but . on ; .Ind their Lordships must al lentr.:s which must unavoidably re. Tile , . would bear is its raid otiestien of difficulties ir,f;•! :oinacit-c, whether, under all c stivet,id t.e more advisable to pros r %A:l:ether, by interposing some flay, they would trust to the clot: ta areid those , iceti'veniences to of del. In his view of the case, their frengliout the whole of their is mind the , principle that govern tf 17Ps an d mO. There may circumq:nrces, which tended of thic T s since that period, and r tent application of that principle a Principle itself which govei ned their Le the same. In the - case which tiaihtr proceedings to the present examinations before the Privy Cot tow, laid upon the table. At adjout was then passed, for the purpose tenor ptoceedings. The next ste] examination of his Majesty's Phys tees of both Houses of Parliament thiemode of proceeding, howtvei the present case, he thought some existed, between the present and tf. which, in his judgment, renderei terpose a farther delay than that o former case, the indisposition of hi tinned considerably longer than in t In the second place, though at 1 hopes were entertained (f ultima: did not then appear that any amen taken place at the time, and, as this Was apparent. '. this day decidedly stated 11;r,icians to he, that a consie 'tad actuaily taken place. A was, that at the former period, advantage of judging what won' tion of his Majesty's inclispositio from'whit took place on a prev which advantage, in point of ex} *teas have on the present occasion dilation of all these circumst.anc he desirable,to move an adjournn find than was propene& in the cal detinett it his duty to propose t pre,ctlt, with an understanding, tit of tl.e interval he should now pr zof be such a favourable change of a speed ) , restoration of the per: Royal finicti,-ns, he should area to move for an Examination of d as adopted in the case or would, upon a due consideration stances of the case, rega rd it at deity to concur in. He would ti move, " That this Hou s e do; at Thursday, the 13th day or Dece On the question being put— , Earl SPENCER rose, and at s I his sentiments on the question be After briefly touching upon the *ere hitherto) adopted r he e=re •