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.;• 1101 'SR OF LORDS-JULY 22. COIN LAWS. IEVOILX DILL. IMPERIAL. PARLIAMENT. The LORD CfIANCRI4LIPR did not attend the House, therefore the Earl of Shaficabury sat as Deputy Speaker. Alanehester and Sheffield Railway Bill was read the seci.mi time. ..... On the motion of the Duke of RICHMOND, the 3125 ' ter of thu dint Reduction of Salary Bill was read a second tine. _ . The Bishop of FRR NS presennted a petition from Carlow complaining of the want of proper accommodation in the public worship of GOD. Ilse right rev. prelate obtained leave to bring in a bill to remedy the evil complained of, which bill was read a first time. On the motion of the Earl o f RADNOR, the proceed ill:4 on Calirift's Divorce Bill were postponed to this day fortnight Adjourned to Monday. HOUSE OF CO NI MONS. The SPEAEER, purmant to the new arrangement, took the (hate at Three o'clock. ELECTION COMMITTEE. lend gIA M DEVI LIA: presented the renort of the Raz hortesshire Election C,o:n.nittee, which declared the sitting no Tuber to have been duly elected. Ale. HUNT preseoted a petition from inhabitants of Preston, orayttig that their rights might be protected in the Reform Bill. lie afterwards moved for accounts of priros of corn fur the last twelve months. Ordered. Sir R. :MUSGRAVE presented is petition from the Ro man Catholic inhabitants of a tow% in the county of Water ford against the Vestry Act; and 'also a petition from the town of Lismore for the Abolition of Slavery. Sir H. 'PARNELL presented a peetion from the parish priests of Maryborough, against the grant to the Kildare. street Society. THE IRV 1611. TETL Sir F. BURDETT presented a petition frimelNhe Rev, Ile Taylor, complaining of the severity of the treatment which he experienced in Horsemonger-lane gaol. Mr. DENISON said the magistrates of Surrey had been unjustly accused of severity. On going to prison Mr. Taylor made three requests—not to be compelled to attend public worship—•o have superior diet—and unlimited correspon dence. The two first were granted, except having spirits and wine. He was allowed to see his friends at a distance of three feet, four hours a day, and to have all books and papers, except irrreligious ones: but unlimited correspondence could not be allowed, as it would enable him to spiced irre ligious opinions. The hon. member said, though these re gulations were deemed requisite, he doubted the polity of thew- prlsecutions. Mr. BRISCON thought the treatment more severe than it would be in any other gaol, and that naturally excited irritation. Mr. TREVOR said, every indulgence had been allowed Mr. Taylor consistent with law. But if he had been allowed an unlimited correspondence, it would have been used in disseminating those doctrines for which he was now impri soned. It was a matter of the highest importance that the laws of this counay should be properly enforced, wilco. larly in cases of thi s desc t iption ; for, ill such blasphemy for which Mr. Taylor was imprisoned, were allowed to go un punished, every libel spoken, or issuing front a licentious press, would eventually pass without notict!. Mr. HUNT was glad hat in defending the magistrates the members for Sutry had not deemed it requisite to at tack the accused. He was sorry the prosecution had taken place, such nrnceedinp did no good. The mention of the Poor 3fan's Guardian by the Member for Dundalk, had increased the sale from 3,000 to 11,0(M) Capt. 0011 DON feared there was a feeling of partiality towards Mr. Taylor, that would not have been extended to any other individual. _ _ . \lr. LA MB said there bad been relaxation of the prison in favour of Mr. Taylor. Mr. O'CONNELl:Oinerrell that if the magistrates made regulations unnecessarily severe, that it was just ground for i-terference. Taylor, in one prisnn, could not correspond— Carlisle, in another prison, corresponded as freely as he pleased : persecution made victims, not converts. Sir F. BURDETT considered that a revision of the prison regulations must take place: no jailer was authorised to interrupt correspondence—Petition ordered to lie on the ;01e. Mr. A. S ITH presented a petition from Arundel against the Beer Bill. Lord MILTON presented - it petition from General Thornton, praying that the King might not be compelled to take the oaths against Transubstantiation: but that some method might be adopted to guard against Catholic ascen dency to the throne. His Lordship then presented a Peti tion from the inhabitants of Gloucestershire, for the total but gradual repeal of the Corn Laws. He entirely agreed with the peti.inners' views of the Corn Laws. Mr. HUNT supported the player of the petition. He hoped to be able to bring forward his motion, as very probably he should not be in another Parliament. Mr. JAMES said he should have great pleasure in se conding the hon. member's motion. The Marquis of CHANDOS said be should oppose the motion when brought forward. Mr. RA MSDEN said, that the petition from Hudders field, presented by Mr. Hunt, on Monday, in favour of Universal Suffrage, &c. had been unknown to the people of Huddersfield. Many of the signatures were in the same hand-writing. Mr. HUNT declared, that the'petition was agreed to at a public meeting, and the signatures were as respectable as any of the hon. member's constituents. Mr. RA MSDEN replied, that many of the signatures were forgerie&—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. POYNTZ presented &petition from Ilesden, Devon shire, praying to be united to Ashburton. He should be able, to bring forward a strong case for that borough. The petition ordered to be referred to the Committee. On the motion of Lord 3. RUSSELL the House, at five o'clock, resolved into Comidttee on the English Re form bill. The Chairman (Mr. BERNAL) put the question that " Heine stand part of Schedule A.'; At r. FA R RA ND observed that Heden was not in nomina tion, but an independent borough. With Holderneu it midst to be transferred to Schedule C. He should, here after, submit a motion on the subject; at present it would be eseless. Mr. STRICKLAND complained of the disfranchise ment. When it should be carried, this Riding, consisting 0(170,000 permits, would only have four members. He considered that the country was greatly indebted to the Go vernment for this measure, but he disapproved of this dis franchisement. Mr. RAMSDEN approved of the disfranchisement, be cause he believed a more jobbing borough did not exist.-- ( Um.) Mr. SADLER thought the Hon. Member opposite quite right in saying that neither justice nor population had ban regarded with respect to that great sod opulent part of the country. Four Members. according to the proposition would only be given to a population of 107,000 inhabitants, other places might be instanced similarly circumstanced; for one he would name Lancaster; and such discrepancies surely never could be allowed to exist. According to the present system there was not a part of England that would not exhibit the utmost degree of lo the utmost de. gree of partially ; and it was a plan which could not gain the approbation of any man who possessed the slightest love for justice and m,uity.. lilt. KENYON said that if any additional member was given to any county in England, he should, undoubtedly, move that an additional member be given to every part of Wales, which sent only one member to parliament. Sir C. WET HERELL thought that surely the House would not agree to put into schedule A a borough, and at the same time draw e pen through that borough at once, without bearing what such a borough bad to say in Its own defence. He wished to know from the noble Lord opposite (Lord Althorp,) who appeared to be giving this important measure the utmost attention in its various bearings, and he was sorry he could not oar so muds pee • all the other ministers, foe some of thee muloub ssa l seemed to pay but very little attention to the measure • great poise in the house), he wished to know why a borough ins die. trim was not to stand in the same condition as that of a small boroughin a parish? He should like to know also why Melton, Caine, Tavistock, and sueb'pleces were to be allowed to ketp their places as teprdod undid' members to t. Though he (Sir Crwas only a Yorkshiranan fa l tr:ulerinduced seam of a member of parliament, be amid not help coodemolog jble Cromirelliao system as re. prded the East Riding ,Yorkahire. Why was there nth kr he a Boroughbridge ant* to be a Malta° ? The pub . lie, the house might depend upon •it, would require, and must have a great deal more of explanation respecting this partial plan of proceeding with respect to certain boroughs, than bad yet bass given ; and hon. members ought to know that many of the people were investigating this measure with a moth greater of minuteness than was the House of Commons itset l i re a e mensure which was Cromwel. lien in its romweßian in its character. Lord AL HORP replied, if boroughs in districts wee to stand in the same situation u those in parishes, the elhet would be that these would hardly be any county members at all—the whole county would be cut up into boroughs. He would not go into the question at present, why Mahon, Caine. Tavistock, and so on, were not in schedule A. The proper period to discuss why they should not be wholly dis franchised wool"e upon a motion, if the bon. and learned member should think fit to make such a motion, that they should be removed from their present schedule. Should such a motion be made, he bad no doubt that he and his colleague should be able to state ample reasons why they should not go into schedule A. Again, with respect to ad ding members to Yorkshire, the proper period to bring that forward would be when the clause came before the Com mittee, inoposirg to give additional members to coon. ties. (Hear.) Mr. PRA RD said be entirely Mired from his Majesty's Ministers on their notion of taking population and property as the bases of representation. Ministers had not, howevee, in this respect, even allowing their principle to be true,aesed, fairly ; they had given population and property combine., and that only, when popula:ion and property were In large masses, the effect of which was, as he conceived, most un fair, partial, and unjust. Ale. Fa BRAND said, as to the borough of Hedon being a jobbing borough, he denied it in language as strong as Parliamentary usage would warrant. Sir C. FORBES thought that ',very strong cue for the consideration of his Majestic Ministers had been made out, to declare for Jur increase of the county Members of Yorkshire; as to Hedon, it did not, as it appeared to him, come within the line which had been laid down by his \ lajesty's Ministers. And the insinuations thrown out as to bribery and jobbing prevailing in that borough were altogether unsupported by fact—it was easy to assert, but not so easy to prove. that those abuses really masted. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) The borough in ques tion was in the sante condition as Beverley, and he could assure his Majesty's government,. that no member was ever *turned to that housc upon more independent principles than lie was, when he represented the borough of Beverley in Parliament. He had received a very handsome offer, made on the part of the electors of that independent borough to stand forward as their representative, but he had declined. The interest of the two boroughs he considered to be the some, and as far as lay in his power he would endeavour to wappoet their/manta. RA /ASHEN replied, that he had had a great deal of communication with a gentleman of Hedon. tie declared that it was notorious that Hedon had been bought and sold, at least as long as be remembered any thing. He had un derstood that the members for Hedon were for the reform, hut they voted smack against the reform bill. He asked how that happened ? One of the electors said (and Mr. IL read a part of the letter), " Our members were instructed to support the bill, if Hedon were not excluded ; otherwise to oppose it."—Motion carried. Heytestury, Higham Ferrer., were next • voted to remain in schedule A. Hindon was next named. Mr. WHYLAND spoke of the incorruptible character of the borough. These boroughs ought to be consolidated. He believed the real enemies of the bill to be those who urged the business forward, and the tninisters to proceed with it, with all its imperfections on its head. He trusted that he should not be twitted and insulted when he proposed some real amendments of the bill. Sir C. WETHERELL said he should gladly support the hon. member in his contemplated amendments of the bill. He believed there were beta of persons in this country, and out of that House, who were ready to halloo on the members with their bill, to " ea ira" them, cud they would use the words, only they happened to be English., and not French revolutionists. (A laugh.) Mr. Almerman WA ITIIDIAN .said in Hindon there were ten houses above 101. a year. and they paid 1001. as sessed taxes, not so much as may a house in the City of London paid. He complained of the learned gent.'s con stant interruptions. Sir C. WETHERELL rose amidst considerable laugh. ter. He should speak as often as he pleased ; he was not under ostlers to speak, er not to speak as the hon. alderman was, and who was liable to be arraigned before a new tin gled tribunal in the city of London. That hon. member might submit to such thraldom, he would not ; and though I the hon. member wanted to be facetious, which was rather too much for an aldetmen, at the expense of Hindon, it should not hinder him from making such remarks es he pleased, and as often as be pleased.—(Great cheering from the opposition.) Lord J. RUSSELL trusted this irregular discussion would not be continued. It had nothing to do with the question. Ald. VENABLES said there was no truth in the learned gentleman's declaration; he was quite as free to speak and vote as the hon. member. If the city members made any observations the result would be made public; the like was not the case with the learned gent. and those whom he repre sented, should he be found tripping. Mr. Ald. WAITH MAN also declared that there was no ground for the learned gent's accusation. As to inquiry about sentiments and votes, he considered they wave useful and constitutional ori the part of constituents. The learned gent was a good tempered man at bottom ; but be sometimes rode a very queer hobby, which be allowed to play strange tricks, and pursue frantic courses with him. (laughter.) The question was then,carried. The next proposition regarded ' Ilehester.' Mr. PETRE said, the only elegy or eulogium he would pronounce was—' Requiescat in pace.' Motion carried. The extinction of But Looe was next proposed, and Mr. D. GILBERT rose amidst a loud burst of laughter. He spoke of the number of Inhabitants of the place, and two neighbouring parishes, which, including West Looe, together would amount to 2,529. He should not divide the committee on the subject ; he left the case with them. He' contented himself with pointing out the circumstance. Mr. HOPE said that this was not a nomination borough. Mr. STANLEY thought this was a strong case of prac tical justice ; even the two boroughs of Rut and Vest Looe were obliged to call in two parishes to make up the requisite number for one member, yet heretofore they had returned two members eaeb. (Hear.) Mr. O'CONNELL said, both these boroughs were the rottenest of the rotten ; they had ever been under one no minator from their creation by Flisabeth. West Looe was worthy of being Rung after East Looe, and of being buried in the same grave. Let them go together—they were woe. thy of the like fate, and to be treated with every ignominy. Mr. BARING said as the boroughs were to be opened, it was no longer a ground of argument against them that they were now corrupt the opening of them was to cure the cor ruption. There was going forward a monstrous demolitton of the representation ; and new and extensive powers were to be created. Sir ROBERT INGLIS opposed the motion. Mr. KNIGHT {bought the committee were now relieved frqm any principle that had been laid down u that of the bill. Population had been made the test ; but he, as an bumble member of that house, after what had taken place with re. gard to Boynton, would consider himself perfectly relieved from that consideration. Lord ALTHORP said, that it had been remarked that they were depriving Cornwall of her representatives entirely —that he denied ; for if it was deprived of its boroughs, the representation would be given to larger and more po pulous towns, where there were more Cornishmen to be re presented. (Cheers.) Mr. GOU BURN opposed the motion. Lord hi I LTON supported the motion, and defended the decision in the case of Downton, as it was well known that it had been a nomination borough, and to destroy which in., volved one grew principle of the bill. Mr. DA IiCSON said, that this discrimination of nomina tion was quite absurd, and that they bad already become quite ridiculous in pretending to observe rules in dealing with this bill. He was sure that the.odsa they were pro ceeding upon would make more nomination boron& in their reformed system than existed under the present system. He instanced blaldon, in Yorkshire, which was not to be dis franchised; and that would, he said, by the present measure become decidedly a nomination borough. He then said. don't let them deceive the public. The noble Lord (Russell) tosses up his head, but be would find that be had got him. self into a difficulty, and so had his Mends • it was plain that they were acting under a clamour, mid giving their votes under pledges.—(No, no.) After what he bawd last night (there was no laugh reached the gallery) he knew who It was that was laughing; but he could tell them that they would be the laughing-stock and scorn of all who now sup ported them. • Dlr. O'CONNELL said be was sure that the radical re formers would be highly delighted now, and that even the hon. member for Preston would be satisfied, for the radical reformers might just take up the *webs of the Tory petty, there were so many proselytes among them to the tome ef radioing& (A laugh.) The bon. mamba who bad just sat down was not contented with the disfranchisement of the bill, but seemed anxious to have added to it that of Malden. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. O'Connell) would second him in that Intim, and so would all the radish, as it was gobs on their principle that the bill was only a sintdon roe More good things. An hen. member had tailed of the foundation of East and Trost Lao*, but be did not know that they owed their origin to a struggle again' Malay tight& Queen Elisabeth had originated them to overcome the popular voice, and she could not have set herself better down than in the rotten borough of East and West Looe. The noble lord (Althorp) had justly stated that the alters. tion would give representation to more Cornishmen ; and be (Mr. O'Connell) had no doubt but that they would get Cornishmen to represent them. He did not know but his honourable Mend (the member for Loon, an Irish gentle man) would be more at home at the Black Pool than he was at Loom. (A laugh.) Mr. DAWSON begged to explain, that he bad never wished for the disfranchisement of Malden, nor would he ever vote for the disfranchisement of any b orough whatever. He had no great opinion of the hon. member for Kerry's Parliamentary conduct. (Cries of order from the Chair.) He merely meant to say, that, notwithstanding all his speeches and all his harangues, that he had never brought a motion into the house that iris of the slightest use. He bad certainly a kind of connection in the country which had secured Mm a mat t but he was continually changing his footing (Lan county to county, and from place to place, always supporting two sides. Mr. KENNEDY thought the allusion made by the Hon. Member W the extent of connection of the Hon. Member for Kerry, came from him with a very bad grace, when it was so well known that he (Mr. Dawson) could not get in f or t h e on ly count y w i t h w hi c h h e h a d an y con. atvW l l.--( Immense laughter.) After some observations from Mr. BILOGDZIN Mr. HOPS, and Mr. D. 451u.nrar, against the motion, the question was put from the chair, that East Looe remain in schedule A. The Noes were very loud, but the Ayes were declared to have it. West Loot shared the same fate. ll* question was then put from the chair, that the borough of Lostwithiel should remain in schedule A. The motion was opposed by Mr. GOULBURN and Lord VALLETORT. Lord J. RUSSELL replied. The motion was carried without a division. That the borough of Luggershal should stand in schedule A, was then put from the chair. Sir SA NDFO it D GRAHAM said, that he was one of the joint proprietors of the borough, and that as well as giving his own consent, he had orders from his co-proprietors to give the measure his utmost support. The motion was carried. The question was then put, that Midhutst stand in sche dule A. Mr. J. SMITH said, he was ready to surrender his in. tercet in the borough, and to support the measure. Motion carried. Milborne Port was then put from the chair, and the mo. I don was carried without a remark. That Minehead stand in schedule A, was then put from 1 the chair. Mr. LUTTRELL rose and said, that the borough had been In his family, and had descended from generation to gmeration. He stated that it stood on a part of two pa rishes, Duneter and Minehead ; that the population, con jointly, exceeded 2000; and that, according to the rule laid down, that a deficiency in the constituency might be sup plied from the rural population, he thought that Minehead was a fair case of exception, on which he would take the sense of the house ; and he moved that it be transferred from Schedule A to B Lord J. RUSSELL explained. Mr. GOUL BURN opposed the motion, and among other arguments, urged that there was a resolution on the records of the house which gave the tight of voting at an election for Minehead to every parishioner in Minster, as well as Minehead. • Lord J. RUSSELL said that that was a very material fact, and he ahouki liito.to hear the resolution read. The resoitttion was sent for and read, and was to the effect stated by Mr. ooulburn. Mr. STANLEY rose, and stated that the borough did not come within the line of population, for that, conjointly, the parishes did not exceed 1.700. Mr. - GOULBURN and Mr. S. WORTLEY were op. posed to the disfranchisement. Lord ALTHORP understood the resolution to mean. that parishioners of 111*.bend and Danner, housekeepers within thetestiegh of Iniehead. should have the franchise. After a few pgrds froos*Mr. COURTENAY, Sir E. SUGISEN will, the right of elections was in the parishioners in the borough, the Dunsterites living with out the borough acquiring the right on taking a house within it. Of tideousaptibility or facility of becoming electors they Were now deprived, and, consequently, the disfranchisement applied to both perishes. After a few words from Mr. Stanley, Mr. O'CONNELL said, the resolution was absurd, as the bon. gentian* understood it. The inhabitant of any plate, on becoming a housekeeper within the borough would be a parishioner. and have the right of voting. (Hear.) After a few words fronnAle. Home, Mr. Goulhurn, Sir B. 13vgdeti, Ind Lord Altissrp, Sir R. PEEL (in answer to Mr. O'Connell) said, the inhabitants of other places than Danner must have a legal settlement before becoming parishioners. (Hear.) After some mere discussion, in which Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Attwood, Mr. Pried, Dr. Lushingtco, Mr. H. Gurney, Sir C. Wetherell. Lord J. Russell, and Sir J. Sendai took part, the borough was declared a part of schedule A, with out a division taking place. On the siltation that Newport form pan of the schedule, Sir H. UAREILLNGE , NEC it had enjoyed the elective franchise for upwards of 300 'years, during which time it had never been accused of malusing It. The place was then disfranchised. Newton was next timbre& so form part of the schedule. On the motion that Newtown form also a part of it, Mr.H. GURNEY said, fie franchise was Dever held on the principle of population. In the reign of Queen Eliza beth the right of returning the members was given to the descendants of a branch of the royal family, with whom it had continued ever since. his disfranchisement here then was not restoration, but spolfatioe. After some further ob servation", lie saldbe blast least the Satisfaction of know ing that the merobseafor Newtown had never made them. selves such "pectic% for men and angels as the four members for the city of London. Mr. O'CONNELL wu surprised that the representative of a baronet should put himself in comparison with she representatives of the citizens of London'. - He bad heard a small cheer around him, but there was a cheer abroad which in a voice of thunder had pronounced the death-warrant of the boroughs. Mr. ATT WOOD said the boroughs ware taistsd with a contempt and derision which would become thlaistifalsnmye assemblies of Frames Newtown wan now the same as whee l created by the constitution ; but tbe Attorney-General would say that it lad ever been an abase. The time be feared would come, when other &baps would be found in the constitution, when the -peerage and the crown would be abuses. (Hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL could not hear the attacks on the majority, and on the monism for London in particular, without saying that they had `not the Slightest foundation in reseal or justice, and that their continuance would not fail to be unpleasant to the house. He had never heard, since he had been in the bouse, such expressions as " spoiled*" end " derisioo;" united to " realutionary assemblies," used the Issjoelty, and the deciakes of the Commons.._ ;1 121 1:1/ 1 ") An Won. Member bad eluded to the City of Los. den. He caminessd It 'fats far esnadthents to ask their earesentatire, samba bad gives $ vets which they deemed inconsistent with blepetnises on the hustings, sereconcile his conduct with Yr fwalkilims: Vottld sot certain Noble Lords, were theft to veer far the reading of the reform bill, sandier eaplaweelea P (Hear.) As left as be (Lod . ihessell) • bad .a mist in the bon er, he wQII, as a dam of feeedoo, for he . hell now tiro hamar of being a &ism et f=let i ldi re r 4 2, s , 4 efend the city and its metwilsra hem Chews.) Sr J. SCARLETT could not explain to himself the unuenal warmth of the noble Lad, until he came to his pentad* and recalled to their recollection his newly auired honours.—(A laugh, and ales of oh !) There was a difference between the conduct of the chimes and the dis satisfaction which constituents might express at the dept. tore by their representative from those general principles with which, be granted, the bad a right to be made ac quainted. The worthy aid. ( ) hod declared himself hogi4ied a friend to reform, but had not himself to support each detail in the bill, and what he m ht think absurd. Did be wish to point out the inconveniences of the bid, he would take the late example of a meeting assembled in judgment over the votes of that House, while it was still sitting. Could they he a deliberative assembly, when, on the dicta. ides et the sassing jeans* a mamba was to be called to seminal by a popular assembly for his vote of the previous Met F--(flear.) They (the members) came from the bets they were assembled for another purpose than and registering • the actual state of public to deliberate.—(ilear , heart 7it illa theaght was pro ; were there per to allude to whet had ta ati ebisz place, to warn the house against granting sixteen members who would be liable to be called to account every morn ing for the vote they gave over night.—(Hear, hear.) Was such a system of representation one that so i hi r r o i n si: mm =any, • wished to support the Constitution or the support ?—(Hear, hear.) Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said he had never beard a m e e r a .t morlon . c r a i l i l e ed is f a o r l d he me m t an say more could so ma; malevolent. jal In favour of, a rotten borough, but he never heard bim say in that house one word in favour of the liberty of the peeple. (Hear, beer.) He could tell the hon. gentleman int the City of Leaden members never came into Parlia ment IMMO in=dently than on the present occasion. The 'Wore the candidates before them, and asked their *ism They heard them and were satisfied, and amid eft bee of expense. He would ask the hoe. gen lime who said he had never been controukd by his =a whe elected without expense ? His patron was wn' as money; would he tell the house how much he paid fur his seat ? He need not tell k—they all knew it. (Hear, hear.) Much had been said about the City of London; and the great big lawyers--(a laugh)—had broached a doctrine that would startle all the constitutional lawyers that ever sat in that house. It was the very essence of the constitution ' that the representative should sympathize with the constitu ent. This was the doctrine of Lord Chatham, of Mr. Fox, mid Mr. Burke ; but the great big lawyer, who could say nothing in favour of the liberty of the people, now says there should be no sympathy between the people and their representatives. The learned gentleman knew nothing of the case he attempted to state—he should never speak with. out a brief. An independent committee of the citizens of London, who were watching the progress of this bill, saw that the oppo sitioni was factious—that they songht to defeat the bill by. delay—that that was the object of the attempt to call counsel to the bar; and when they found one of their members voting for the proposition, they called him be• fore them to explain his conduct, whether he meant to sup port the factious opposition by delaying the bill. His hon. colleague said he had not seen it in that light, and did not mean to delay the bill. His constituents were satisfied, and he thought their vigilance in support of the bill did them honour. The people, night after night, saw strings of law. yen, who had no sympathy with the people, spending all their force in support of rotten boroughs. There were thirty of forty lawyers in that house, and what did they come for? why it was a trade ; they must want common sense, when they got into that house, if they did not make a pro fi t. He felt it his duty to sit there, night after night, to defeat the factious opposition that was given to the bill, which the people were determined to have, and would have, in spite of the faction by which it was opposed. Mr. SADLER said if the noble lord opposite meant tha he had made any promise how he should vote, he could deny it. His opinion had never been asked ; and he thought the man who could bow down his opinion to 10,000, was as little independent as he who bent before an individual. (Hear, hear.) The boroughmongers were those who dealt in seats in that house, and sold them for pecuniary conside rations. It was stated, in the history of the boroughs, that a noble duke, in the year 1812, sold the borough of Camel ford for 30,000 L and he now supported the disfranchisement of that borough. Sooner than act that part, he would imi tate the conduct of Judas, and would throw down the pieces he had received. The influence that was retained was be. come the more valuable for the destruction that was going on. (Hear.) Wu it to be said that those who did not live in 101. houses had no rights to protect. They produced every thing of value, and paid the greatest share of the taxa tion. (Hear.) Sir R. PEEL said, as a liveryman of London, he must protest against the hon. Alderman's mating sash teethes, and calling the opposition a faction. He did lit Ma the majority had pledg e d th em s e l ves to su pp ort th e w h o l e bin ; and he felt perfectly confident, that on many of the details the opposition should have their support. (Hear.) He was confident that if his hon. friend, the worthy Alderman, had told his constituents that he supported the principle of the bill, and would exercise his discretion Co the details, that at the next election he would be placed at the head of the poll. (Hear, hear.) Mr. GILLON said, the opposition made to the disfran chisement of this rotten borough was merely for the purpose of delay. (Hear, bear.) The resolution was agreed to. The next resolution was, that the borough of Orford stand part of schedule A. Mr. CHOKER said he would take that opportunity o making some observations on the borough of Orford, the schedule A. and the principle of the bill. He would cedes. your to skew that In point of policy it would be expedient to unite Aldborough, which contains about 1,300 inhabitants, with Orford, which sontains about 1,600. They ass within three miles of each other, are united by a navigable river, be longing to the same port, having thesame officenof Customs. There were some reasons which made such an union peculiarly expedient The bill pressed heavily on the agricultural dis tricts. The counties south of Trent lost ninety of their bo. rough members ; the northern counties were to have an ad dition of twenty, tasking a difference of 100 between those two grew divisions of the Kingdom. He knew the small boroughs did not always represent the leaded interest ; but generally speaking they belonged to the leaded interest. There was no person alive had any interest in the proposi• tioo he was making, but in the general interest they all felt in doing justice. The county of Suffolk was one of the most exclusively agricultural In the kingdom. It contained by the population return of 1821,270,000 inhabitants, and had 14 borough members. Durham had 207,000 inhabi tants, and was to gain five members, while Suffolk lost nine members. (Hear, bear.) Suffolk, under the bill, would have the largest population with the fewest members of any county in England. For twenty.five miles from Orford there would not be. one borough. He had no interest In continuing the franchise of Orford. His object was the protection of the landed interest ; and be would refer the ease of Orford to Government and the house. Sir H. BUNBURY said, neither Aldberough nor Or. ford had any trade; they were inhabited fishermen, and had not many houses rated at 101.—(Heer.) by The boroughs were never represented by agricultural members; and Aid. borough had sent a petition to the house in favour of the present Bill. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said great attendee had been paid to the agricultural interest, as was manifest from the addition made to the County Members. The small boroughs did not return agricultural representatives.—. The fla was agreed to. The next Resolution was that the borough of Petesisid eland pan of schedule A. Colossi JOLLIFFE eppessd tae disfrenchimient of i!etersaeld, en the ground that Its ancient boundary of itself letiaat Olodo it from schedule A._ Lord' sONN - IKNIIISLL was closely of opinion *et the borough of Petemileld ought to be disfranchised. Sir WM. JOLLIFFE contended that the population of Petersfield was such u to be entitled to ream one member to Parliament. After • few words from Mr. Carter, The CHAIRMAN put the question that the borough of Petersfield 'kind pert of schedule A, which was carried affirmatively. Peters 141 was therefore added to the disfranchised C HAIRMAN The CHAIRMAN then put the question that the ho. rough of Plympton stand part of the clause. Mr. HUNT rose and moved an adjournment. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, be did not pledge himself that the business of the reform bill should top at any given hour of the night. The question was again put, and Lord VALLETORT was of opinion that Plymptim ought not to be included in schedule A. The Noble Lewd at some length deprecated the influence which the press ap. peered hou to have over bonen:able members on the opposite side of the se. Sir CHARLES WETHEIUELL called uppoona the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) to act up to the ins given to him by the press, " strangle the reptiles" en moose, rather than take the time of the house by going over the schedules A, B, tend D.—(A laugh.) After a few words from Mr. Huns, Sr O. Comm, Lord J. Rtresau., Mr. Ross, and Mr. Eivanizir, Colonel SIBTHORPE attacked the Pros; the Has. Mamba stated that it was in the pay of GaVlNUMeat t and that gra the y thing which vu maid by Ministers, er Gentlemen on the ether die of house, was My noticed, while the ar ts of those opposed to the bill were isolmeded. i k isis CHAIRMAN pat the qualm, that Brollies Rai poet el die bill, width Ina aried, and aloe added to the disfranchised b ceoroughs Pimples was . The CHAIRMAN then reputed puree% lad the boom resseeed. Queen's dowse. On the order of the day for the third readin , Queen's Dower Bill being read, w Mr. HUME wished that some clause might be attr,:, to the effect that her Majesty, in the event of the t 1 n the crown, should be restrained from spending the abroad. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sai d t , =the bill In question, he had foll owe d the oreeed„; so far back ea the time of George 11. H e „, of opinion that the insertion of the clause remain entiLd by a t hoe . gent. would be a mast ungracious act on the Put of the house. Lord EBRINOTON also objected to the claus e , al , which the bill was read a third time and passed. The other Orders of the day were then disposed r c, an d the house adjourned at Two o'Clock. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. GERMAN PAPERS, RECEIVED THIS DAY, VIENNA, JULY 10.—Letters from the Serrian front!et, say, that the tour of the Sultan in the interior of the kin g , doe makes a favourable impression on the people ; that th e measures which have been prepared for a change in the a, ministration are thereby greatly advanced; and that r 4 Sultan could not better promote his favourite plan, the g m , dual introduction of regular troops, than by going amorg t h e people, and endeavouring to remove the obstacles which hat e been thrown in the way of it, chiefly by that class of Num, in office who think their interest affected by the new ins•itz. Lions. Otherwise, the tour of the Sultan seems to have to other object than to make himselfacquainted with the sure, and to convince himself of the execution of his commaad i , and of the effect they have produced. All other obj ect , ascribed to it deserve no credit. As the prices of the Fra c h funds, received yesterday and to-day. from Paris, were Very low, it might have been supposed that our funds would iil! in consequence, but the confidence which is generally felt in the maintenance of peace, has rather raised them. This may be in a great measure ascribed to the circumstance, that our military preparations are now much relaxed, and will, probably, be soon wholly suspended. The purchasing of bones for the army has, in fact, already ceased ; and if de approaching meeting of the French Chambers should mat no change in the internal situation of France, it may he reasonably hoped that its external relations will likewise re. main unchanged, and that Europe had no reason to dread a general war, the miseries of l which would, doubtless, be doubled by the rapid and inevitable propegation of the (hi. ental Cholera.—Allieinefne Zeihnig, July 16. VIENNA, JULY 11.—The Court Gazette contains a lens proclamation, reciting the measures taken in the whole Aus trian empire to prevent the introdiscdon Cl the cholera into those provinces to which it has not penetrated, and, at the same time, to impede as little as possible any important in. tercourse with Hungary. The military cordon on the from tiers of Hungary, towards °Alicia, is to be extended along the frontiers of Moravia, Lower Austria, Inner Austria, Cro. aria, and the Austrian Littorale. Provincial boards of health, such as have long existed in °Alicia, Moravia, Hungary, and Transylvania, are established in Bohemia. Aultria•undci.Ems, Ilyria, Corinthia, and Croatia, and at Trieste. At Lena, Inspruck, Military Venice. and Zara. boards of health are to be also established, and also local boards, like those at Vienna and Prague, in the capitals of the countries in which there are provincial boards of health Austrian Observer, July 11. VIIIMINA, iIYLT 11.:—Four per Cent. Metaliken, IN ; Bank Shares, Se. Tamar; JULY B.—The Amide, French frigate, which came from Ancona, baa been ben ever since the 28th ult.— The Aleut who have cane co show say, they are waiting to take ea board the Duke de Joinvilk ; but, uhe hu not yet arrived, purple fancy, perhaps, without reason, that the real object is to metansku our city and harbour. The plague, which has broken out at Smyrna, is stated, in letters from that city, not to be of a malignant nature. It is said that Gawk pirates have appeared in the gulf of Bakal:hi, and have already attacked three merchantmen, but were beaten off by than.—Ft etskfort Papers, July lb. IZCLIreIVIL RITRACTS PROM TER PARIS JOURNALS. ITALY AND SWITZERLAND. Although the Moniteur announced that the nuncio of the Pope- had only quitted Paris to go and take the waters at Aix, in Savoy, it is now no less certain that this Prelate, who has just been promoted to the dignity of Cardinal, has definitively quitted France. A month before his departure, he bad already sent to Rome 19 cases containing his plate, his Italian library, and all his effects. The Nuncio has taken with him his private Secretary and the persons of his household. The Secretary of the Embassy remains at Paris.—National. In the discourse pronounced at Lucerne for the opening of the Ordinary Diet, the Avoyer Amrhyn made known that the declaration of the neutrality of Switzerland had produced friendly replies on the part of the great powers, with the exception of Rusty, Austria, and Prussia, the notes from whom oiniaird expressions rather strange. It results from this report that amongst the great powers, France and England have alone recognised with satisfaction the principle of Swiss neutrality such mile last declaration established it.—Le Temps. The King of Sardinia, daring the sojourn which he lately made at Genoa, wished to pass the troops in review which were in that city. During the review, Charles-Albert was dressed in the uniform of an Austrian Colonel. It was a compliment, no doubt, which he wished to offer to his new ally, the Emperor of Austria. This demonstration, which will be viewed with an indifferent eye by our Ministry, was not so by the people of Genoa, and cries of a bas leroi Autrichiew were heard on all sides. Some superior officers having cried Vive le Roi, were hissed and hooted by the multitude. The King returned to Turin very discontented with his journey; be did not conceal his displea sure.—Le National. We have already mentioned, says Le Globe, the vexatious position in which the French govern ment is placed with regard to _ltaly, and the alter native which remains to it at this moment, either of renouncing the evacuation of the Austrians from the states of the Church, or of subscribing to the humiliating and irrevocable conditions proposed by the Papal government. It has taken no resolution relative to the last protocol, presented as the ulti matum by the Court of Rome ; and M. Horace Vernet, charged by the French Ambassador to come and solicit the adhesion of Louis Philippe. has not yet left, although his journey should be hastened as much as possible.—On the other side, (says the same journal) all the assurances of the ministry, all the diplomatic opticians, is again over thrown by the refusal of the King of Holland to accept the eighteen articles digested 'by the con ference of London.--Such facts will render very difficult the drawing up of the discourse for the opening of the session.—La Quotidietute. Rona, JULY S.—..EXTRACT OF A PILIVATA Larraa.—The pursuit against the patriots has just been commenced in all the Roman States. M. de Saint-Aulaire, despairing of obtaining by segociationt a frank and sincere execution of the m } ,•1