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?—it.gives Ine tt*p to link-that the will be still of some duration. Do you feel yourself quite unable to declare r of • d u ration it is likely to be do. • ;r' have stated, that the memory . is one of the uds d'ense ave , cu ltie; which fails , rot seen patients, whonher - ave thi never is been ; cu h red, mer ncry has been retentive to the greatest pos- Llegret!, and even more retentive or more vivid dunn ‘ the periods of mental health ? — I do not that .1 can recollect an instance of that kind, At moment ; I speak of it as usually the case. I pposing the King to be in the same state, in : I) he was between the 23th of October an 4 the at night, would you feel yourself justified :lie de that he was competent to the tratiistetiOri of liminess ?—I believe so.; • - oat would deem that, a peifed Mental recovery ? think there is a differencetbetween the coMmence. • and the termination of - an - illness ; yen would u re something more in the one, than in the other. ash to express, what I have done in a former part ,ly evidence, that I conceived the Ring. competent t h e tr ansaction of public business, till the 27th at the King were now in.the same state after his in which he VMS for some days previouslo the ,of October, would yo* state that he ottght to l a rge his public functionsi—l should conceive the was competent to transact public business. d i eer y kind, without any exception ?—Yes, I ak so. what do you mean, when you speak of his Majes manner being hurried ?—His conversation is more id, and his thoughts occur more quickly in sac - one upon another, than in a state of perfect ; his conversation connected, but too rapid. Not aacclering from one subject to another ?---No. Do you think that his Majesty's increased age, the period of his last attack, renders final reco more or less probable, than it did at the period foregoing attack in 1801?-1. cannot compare stances ; but there is no apparent failure in , Majesty's constitution at this moment. Has increased' age any influence upon the probable recovery of a patient in his Majesty's circum • ?—I should think so ; that it was rather mere Jvantageous ; but there, does not appear, in his 'esty's case, at this moment, any vital failure in • constitution. Has increased age any influence upon the probabi of a speedy recovery ; does increased age tend to a probability, of either a retarded or a quick ; recovery ?—lt would tend to a more tardy re- Do you think the apprehension on the mind of a A of the recurrence of mental malady, after re. ed attacks, has any and what effect in producing renewal of such attacks ?—I should think it would le the patient more susceptible of the influence of exteroal causes as would produce the disease. Was it on the same day that the Lord Chancellor Mr. Perceval saw the King, which you have to be, according to your recollection, the 29th of October ?—lt was not the same day ; I do not :t the day precisely. You have said that you entertain very high expec.' es of the King's recovery ; state the grounds on, !di those expectations are founded ?—I find no in. done to the King's faculties, by his disease, hi ; and I do not observe any tailure in his Ma •'s constitution. [Withdrew. _ . Roncar DARLIKEI WILLIS mild in, and awn:lied. Acquaint the Committee, whether the state of his i's health is such, as to render him incapable conks, in person, to his Parliament, or of attend• to any kind of public business ?—His Majesty is )able of coming to Parliament, or of attending to kind of public business. 'hat hopes do you entertain of his Majesty's re - entertain confident hopes of his Majesty's Do you found your opinion, upon the particular -ms of his Majesty's disorder ; or, upon gene experienc,c, in other cases of the same nature ; or, both ?—I found it upon both. In that particular species of the disorder his Ma • has fallen into, has it been found from experience, the greater number of persons so affected, have cured believe the greater number of •per. are cured. Can you form any judgment or probable conjec of the duration of his Majesty's illness ?—No, I, form no judgment of its duration. As far as experience enables you to judge of his l Lijesty's disorder, do you think it more probable, that Majesty will, or will not recover, so as to render, an capable of attendin4 to public business think amore probable, that his Majesty will recover, so as, to render Mm Callable of attending to public business. What degree of experience have you had• yourself,' this particular species of disorder ?—I have had • considerable experience in this particular species disorder. Has .any amendment already taken place in the of his Majesty's disorder ; and does the appear-, of Inch amendment continue at present ?-4%.1 .iderible-amendment hai. taken place from the numendernent of his Majesty's disorder, which still retinues. What difference 1s there, if any, between the state , his Majesty at present, and that in whih he was hen you were examined before the Privy Council ? It is extremely difficult to measure degrees of a .plaint of this sort ;the character of it has in some ieasure changed ; bet I think his Majesty, upon the hole, hill as well now; as when I was examined be• fore the Privy Council. Did you ever attend his Majesty before in com plaints of this kind ?—ln the year 1901. Is the character of the present cOmplaint the same as that in the year 1801 ?—ln the commencement it va4 exactly similar. How in its progress ?—ln its progress also. Do You conceive that his Majesty's increased age, since that period, is at all likely to influence one way the other his ultimate recovery ?—iodging from sympouris of the case, I have no reason to think th e age will have anyinsence. • Do you think the defects otitis Majesty's sight will have any influence, one way or other, on his ultimate t b ecnvery ?—I t hi n k i t way b e t h e means o f retar di ng; is recovery, bat not, of preventing cove r y. the ultimate re- Do yon thi n k t h at hi s M a j esty ' s i ncrease d ag e wilt have any influence upen the duration of the disorder? Moen OS Wil l be St Do yo u o feel t duration Y ou have sta faculties wl 0 no t seen Po ose me mory d eg ree, at d u ring the ~,,wthat~l cal is mo ment ; supposing t !licit he was 1 th at night, • g that he lie business y ou would I think there t an d the t . airs someth w ish to expri m y evidence , t he transact gif t he King in whit th of Octobi ischarge his I g was COIT Of veer k ink so. What do yc y's manner b( ,pid, and his ession one up ,ealth ; his cc Not wai:dei Do you thi ince the petit v more or f the foregoit circumstat .i 5 Majesty's Has increat rat recovery [antes S ,isadvant2ge 4 lijesty's cas he constitut4 Has increat ity of a speei fold a prob ned recovery .very. Do you thi .atient of the rated attack renewal of 3kc the pat , ach external Was it on Mr. Pet • tated to be, ay of Octet ollect the 4 You have Mons of th< licit those i• miry done to ' herto ; and sty's consti 'r. ROBERT Acquaint lajesty's he f comins, it g to any k apable of ' ny kind of What hoc overt' —I recovery. Do you II symptoms o rag experiens , upon both ? •fl• In that p.• jesty has fag that the fire 't been cured r.)t sons are cu. e ' Can you 1. tare, of the _ • can form n( ,a As far a )" jesty's di his Majesty - T,e him capable it more pro c: to render h' 'What de in this part very consid of disorder, 11.1 •ani tonne of h once of sti re" tonsiderab commence continues. w ' • What d: ti trill- V. • l lay b when you —lt is ext I: * complaint measure cl u. whole Id t. fore die Pi ter, Did Tot plaints of is the c as that in wa4 exact: How it 1,44 Do you since that or the nth it symp the age Pi; Do yet have any t er tecovery Isis rem ( a covery. ;.4 Do yoi Ave an y • . .1 -not &wilier that In this in.oobitiiHtge Rill have any influence upon the disorder. Have you per Met with. a case, in your practice, that you consider as parallel to that of his. Majesty ? if age is necessary to make up the parallel, perhaps not. Have you ever khown a person, as old as his Ma jesty, and with the same defect of sight, recover from a derangement of mind ?—I have never seen a person, at his 'Majesty's age, labouring under a s:milsr cm , plaint to his Majesty's, taking altAhe circumstances of the complaint together. In the general run of cases, which have come with , in your knowledge, in the course of your practice, has increased age, in your-opinion, had any influence on the recovery of the patient, or otherwise ?--Not, where the case was exactly similar to his Majesty. I understood you to say, you had never met with a case exactly similar to his Majesty's ?—Taking age, and other circumstances of his Majesty, into consi deration. " In the general run of cases, which have come under your observation, do yon conceive the age of the pa tient to have had any influenn upon his complaint ? —lt may be difficult to answer that question, without stating the particular species of his Majesty's com plaint : his Majesty's complaint does not appear, to me, to be connected with age ; it is a complaint, pro duced by an- accidental circumstance. which would have produced that complaint, at any time, in his Majesty, during the last twenty-two years. There is no mark of age in the symptoms ; there are none of those symptoms, which usually attend complaints of that description, arising from age ; and it appears to me, therefore, that his Majesty is as likely to recover, notwithstanding his age, from this complaint, as he would from any other accidental complaint he might labour under. Have you known several instances of persons, who have laboured under derangement of mind, at parti. cular and different periods of their lives, with inter vals between the dates of derangement ?—Several. • Have you considered such persons as more or lece likely to recover, in consequence of advanced age ? The opinion must depend upon the symptoms of the case at the time. Do you, then, consider increased years, as a cir cumstance not bearing, in itself, or carrying, in itself, any influence upon a complaint of this nature ? Generally speaking, age Would have a considerable influente ; but no symptoms, which in general arise from age in other person;, have made their appear ance in his Majesty : I therefore conclude, that age will have no effect here. Do you conclude, that age, in an unbroken consti N tution, has no influence upon the probability of reco very, or otherwise, from this disorder ?—Provided I saw no symptoms of the effect of age in the indivi dual, I should say not. Can you at all contemplate, in your own mind, any 'period in which you think his Majesty's recovery likely ?—No. You attended the King in the year 1391, fpr the first time ?—Yes. Did you sign the bulletins that were issued in that illness ?—No. Did you see the bulletins that were issued in that illness ?—Yes, I did. Did you concur in the propriety of those bulletins, as expressing the real state of the King's health tq the public?—Yes, I did. Did you concur in the opinion, expressed to the public by the physicians, by the cessatioa of the bul letins, that the King was perfectly recovered ?—To the best of my recollect on. The King was recovered, and fully capable of doing business : there were some little remains of hurry about his Majesty : nothing further, that I have any recollection of. Do you mean to say, that those Marks of hurry, about his Majesty, were apparent at the time the bul letins ceased, and the Physicians thereby announced to the public, that his Majesty was perfectly reco vered ? —The syMptoms of hurry, certainly, occasio nally remained. Were the symptoms of hurry, such as to create a necessity for any restraint upon his Majesty, after the bulletins ceased ?—Not till a relapse took place. A relapse then did, in point of fact, take place, after the illness in 1801 ?--A relapse took place after the bulletins ceased. What interval was there,between the cessation of the bulletins and the relapse have no means of ascer taining, at this moment, when the bulletins ceased. What length of time, do you conceive, took place, between the cessation of the bulletins and the relapse ? -a-I have a perfect recollection of the relapse, but I have no recollection when the bulletins ceased. Between the cessation of the bulletins, and the relapse, did his Majesty transact public business with his servants ?—His Majesty's servants had ac cess to him. Had they access after the usual manner, without the presence or permission of any medical attendant, or by-any person deputed by any medical attendant? —Certainly. Nobody was ever present, at the time the inter views took place between his Majesty and his ser vants ?—Not to my knowledge. When and where, did the relapse decidedly shew itself ?—At the Queen's house, on the 14th and 15th • of March. By whom was it first perceived ?—I really cannot call that to my recollection. Had you been in the habit of visiting the King, occasionally, from the time of the cessation of the bul letins, to the period of the relapse decidedly taking ,place ?—I had got ceased to see the King, daily. When did you, yourself, perceive the symptoms of a decided relapse in the King ?—I presume, either on that evening or the next morning. How long did that relapse continue ?—But a very short time, with any violence. How long was it, before his Majesty was restored to the state in which his Physicians had reported him to be perfectly recovered ?—lt is impossible for use to charge my memory with the number of days, at this distance of time; to the best of my recollection, a few days only. When did you discontinue your attendance upon the King, altogether, in the year If3ol ?---On the 3d of June. Had the King's hurry, which you have described, entirely ceased, before you ceased attending upon the King think, not entirely. Do you conceive those hurries, were vestiges of and dependent upon the mental complaint of the King ? —Certainly. VIA Volt !peak 4 the Itines recoteiy, tor the purpose of transacting public business, do you under stand it in the same way, ;s you would, the same words applied • to an individual, that he was competent to the transaction of all his business, public and pri vate, and to the complete management of his affairs? Most assdiedly. Since you ceased to attend the King in June, 1801, when were you since called to his Majesty ?—On the Bth of last month. Did not you attend the King, in the year 1 Ult.—No. Since you have been called in, to the king, do you r reeollect having objected to any proposal, made for an interview between the King and the Lot d Chan cellor ?—Yes. Had you known, that it was intended to propose to tha King, to see the Chancellor, should you have ob hected to his being' told of it ?—I should, certninly, ave objected. Do you think that any beneficial effact was pro duced, to his Majesty's mental health, by the inter view between the King and the Chancellor ?—No. Has any prejudicial effect resulted from it ?—I am not aware that any prejudicial effect arose. On the night of the Chancellor seeing the King, did you see any effeCt, good or bad, produced, that you attributed to the visit of the Chancellor ?—Not that I could attribute to the visit of the Chancellor. Wh:tt was the reason assigned, by the _physicians, for wishing the King to see the Chancellor ?—Some of the physicians had formed an idea, that the Chan cellor would have some influence on the King's mind. In point of fact, was the King worse that night, than he had been the preceding night ?—T he King had a remarkably good night. When did you last see his Majesty ?--This morn inc!, about eight o'clock. What was his state at that time ?—Nearly in the same state that the King has been, for the two or three last daYio Ha J he passed a good night ?—A tolerably good nigh. ; nor equal to the preceding. Do you esteem it an unfavourable circumstance,' ! that .would not be attend:d with its natural ef fect of refreshment and composure, in a malady of tire nature of that, with which the ing is affected It only marks the stage of the complaint. It uni formly takes place, e:arly, in complaints of this de- I scription, that sleep does not benefit tha mind, it only recruits the constitution at large. Does sleep, now .%enefit the King's mind, more than it did in the c..rlier stages of this disorder ?—Most undoubtedly. Does it benefithis mind, as much as it did in the 'corresponding states of his disorder, heretofore?— I am scarcely able to discover the exact parallel situation. Have you now, or had you lately, under your care, any. patients of the age of the King ?—Not affected exactly as his Majesty is. Have you had any patients, titentally deranged, of or about that age ?—No, I think not. Hive you had patients, mentally derange.l, of about the same age, under your CATO have had persons, under states of insanity, of the King's age; font per.' haps under mental di rangement similar to the King's. What is the distinction, between mental derange- , inert, and insanity ?—The Committee must be mute; of the extreme difficulty of giving a definition, premeditated. I will describe the character of dm different states : I consider the King's derangement, More nearly allied to delirium, than insanity when.! ever the irritation, in his Majesty, arises to a certain point, he uniformly becomes delirious:. In delirium,.. l the mind is actively employed upon past impressions, upon objects and former scenes, which rapidly pass in succession before the mind, resembling, in that case, a person talking in his sleep. There is also a considerable disturbance in the general constitution; great restlesness, great want of sleep, and total cowcionsness of surrounding objects. In insanity, there may be little or no disturbance, apparently , in , the general constitution ; the mind is occupied upon some fv:Pd assumed idea, to the truth of which, if will pertinaciously adhere, in opposition to the plainest evidence of its falsity ; and the in4ividual is acting, always, upon that false impression.: in insanity, also, the mind is awake to object....vhich arc present. Tak ing insanity, therefore, and delirium, a's two points, I place del angerneir. of mind somewhere between them. His Majesty's illness, uniformly partakes mote of the delirium th;tn of insanity. Do you mean to say, that the King is at any time unconscious of surrounding objects ?—When I first 5 acv his Majesty, on the Gth of November, he was per fectly unconscious of surrounding objects. Was that his state on Tuesday last ?—Nn. \\'.;i there derangement oa Tuesday ?—There was derangement 91 Tuesday. Then, on Tuesday, did his Majesty's disorder bear the characteristic of insanity; and on the 6th of No vember at delirium ?—lt has never borne the charac teristic of insanity ; it never gets beyond derangement, according to the scale I have just laid down. Does this apply to the illness of 1801,as well as to the present ?--Strictly. What is the present state of the King's bodily health, in your opinion ?—The King is far from being in a good state of health, at this time. Are there symptoms of bodily indisposition, suffi cient to account for all the derangement of mind, which is perceived in his Majesty ?—Fully sufficient to account for the present symptoms of the state of his mind. • _ - Is there a greater absence of sleep, now, than there was a fortnig h t ago t—Foe six days, there was more regular sleep, than there has been for some days past; when I say a fortnight, am perhaps not quite accu rate to the time. Do you attach any, and what importance, to a pa tient, having previously had repeated attacks of men tal disorder ?—Provided I see no consequences arise from the repetition of the disorder, I should attach no importance to it. In his M:+jesty's cast, have you obierved any con sequences of the kind you allude to ?—I have obser ved none. Did not the Chancellor know, before htswas actually introduced to the King, that you concurred, upon the whole, in thinking it would be better he should see the King, than that he should not ?—Having started the objections, which' I did, to the Chancellor's ad mission, I proposed going over to the King, to see in' what state of expectation his Majesty was knowing, that he had been apprized of the Chance ♦isit to Windsor. I found him, then, in such a state of ex pectation, that it was a doubt whether as much itri• tittots "tout& ad h ie, rrolh ieeptnk titietuneeV t away, as from admitting him s and I therefore assail ted, as a choice of evils, that the Chancellor shouLd gO in. Having stated, that his Majesty's Complaint is more nearly allied to dcliriuth than insanity will you have the rodness ttistate, whether, in your opinion, S is on that account, more easily cnred ?—On that accountb I think it Much more easily mired. In your opinion, has the apprehension on the mind of a patient, of the reettrrene of mental milady after repeated attacks, any, And what effect, in producing a renewal of such attacks ? • It must depend, very much, on the it hurt of the mind of the iudividttela general reasoning could be formed, on that question. . Do you think it has on the mind of his Maiesq ,I have no reason to think that it has. Are relapses more to be apprehended, on the 're r curette of the malady, than after the period of tfe first attack ?—T do not k ?low that it is, 'necessarily. to be looked for ; it has, certainly, taken pl ice in this instance. If a patient had been under your care more than once, would you not expect the return of that patient, mJr.e thin after the first attack?-Certainly. t Withdrew. LUNIE I 17 ma DLCLUBRIS, Dr. MATTHEW BAILLIE again calla The following extract irorn the former evidence of Dr. Baillie was read : " When were you first called in, to see the King ?"—" I be• here it was the 25th of October." Dr. Bantle-4 wish to Li •r, that I tad it was the 26th of October. I spoke to his Malesty on the 2;th ; but not formally, although it was about his heal:h. Ott the 2Sth, when you attended the King, not in the capsdt' 61 which yon subsequently attended him, did you observe thing particular in his Majesty's manner? —He was hurried in his matiner. That is the obsarvation that I have r.atie in try me morandum; that his pulse was at 90, and his conversation was hurried, and a little desultory-.-that is, passing from one thing a little rapidly to another : that was at three o'clock.. On the 26th, the Commitee is to understand the King's malady was established ?—1 saw Dim formally as a physician on the emit. His conversatlian then was certainly very much hurried; but I see, in my memorandum, that it was not irrational although hero tied, and not very well connected. I should not have trusted to my memory for that, but I find that in my memorandum book ors that day. Did you think on the 26th, from what you observed in his Majesty, that he was capable of conducting business cannot give a very accurate atuwer to that question; I should ra , titer th;nk that he was not capable; lint I o ould not take It upon me to say that that is a perfectly Accurate mower. The.following extract from the former evidence of Dr. &Lillie was read: " Mar- ally of the Royal Family seen the King since Ms Ind* position Not as fat as I knowt I believe at the time he visa beginning to be hurried at first his family al* him; but since thit disease established its character ' I believe nee of the Royal Fa nifty hare seen him ; I believe nobody since the 25th cf October.* Dr. Eaitate--1 wish to state, by way cf fitrreelon that iki Queen and three of the Princesses saw the King on t he 'nth of 'October. The Queen by herself, (that is, wi:kont the Princesses) f•sw the King for a little time. an the tech of October; and I ea. derstand Itiewile upon the 319th, for a short time. Since you have been its attendance, in whose custody has the King been t anti hi whose otroity do you appretteod his Majesty , to be now should consider that the Kier WAS prlnelpaliy is • the custody (if I may use the phrase) of Dr. Robert Wiiiia. If I ant asked, sviletPer he is extiusiedy in the custe.ly of Dr. Robot' Willis ? I shouhl Far, Nu; that be takes In a g-rat measure ti.tt maceptdent of the persons that art more Mato. ...timely shout hie Majesty's person; but sometimes dirtttiotts have been rens bf the other Phystelans. When were you first in the habit of stein, the 'King Arai saw the Princes Amelia on the cGth of Dsetmber leer; and every time that I saw the Princess Amelia. as far as I e f eettea.l was with the King alien Ards, so as to have a good deal et oxlip versation with his - htvjesty. From the period at which you been to be honoured wIIF atlas .versailoos with the I'lug no that r.ib;i:ct, did yob at any dines, before you were combed by Ws Majesty ea the 25th of Octo bee, perceive any of that hurry and partictilarlty of manner whlcb jou have described yolpalf 'to have noted down on the Ugh of October?—lt occurred, 1 believe, two or threetimes, hat bet in any very strong degree; enough for me to remark it I bet I ins dernond It was more remarked by those telso knew hiss bet ter, than it was by me, not being so perfectly well Requital with his natural manner as those who had been in the habit of bring with him a great deal. At what periods were those remarks srst made by you 1 , 4•1 think only a few days before the Viih of October. is the course of that month ?-11'es t his Majesty's manner la never a very quiet manner, but 1 do not recollect ary thing that struck me, except two or three days, perhaps, before the saki al October. Did you communicate to any body the remarks you hod sit made, previous to the 25th of October, arm the King's manned —I believe there was to particular communication ; but Sir Henry Haihwil, and Mr. Dundas, and myself, who had the audience of the King, might say," I thought there was a little hurry to-day," or something to that purport. When did you last see the King ?--I saw the tang rue morning. What was the sate of his Majesty's health ?—He was, upon the whole, &little better. I thought, this morning; his pul.e wat less frequent than it has been for the last two or three Asys ; at.d I thought him much less hurried, and what he said was Mara connected, more like ordinary conversation. Upon the whole, 1 should say, be was a little better this manila:. • The following extract, from the former svidenee of Dr. BAILLIE, was read : " Has any person, other than the Royal Family, or his Sao or attendants. seen the ICing, since you have been in attendanee upon his Majesty ?"...-" Yes, the Lord ChanCellor saw his Map jetty the day before yesterday." tia. BAILLIC.--1 wish to add, that the Lord ChanceUer saw his Majesty also on the lit of November; and that Mt. Perseval saw Lim on the _9;h of October. Po you recollect whether Mr Percival saw the King an any other day ?—1 cannot call the circumstance distinctly to my re collection. From any thing you have seen !Ince yeti • were last before this Committee, can rig form any conject ore as to the period of the recovery of the King can form no conjecture whatever, in consequence sf the distance of time between the two examina tions. I thittk fu'ly as favourabir of the King to.itay, as I did, when I was examined before. 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