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their tactics new that they hare en longer pledged Members and mock Delegates to deal with ! They Lave become all at once languid, irresolute, and tardy, and so much so indeed as if they were ennvirced that the first division will he fatal to their hill and their power. (711 RON I Cl.l , ..—The Reform Bill was last night hrenght en from the Cnnimens to the House of Lo•ds. In e‘peceitien of this event, the Lords as 9.•!:blefl early in numbers on bath sides of the Tlonse, awl several Ladies were present. The Bill was read a first time without any observation ; and the second remlin - was fixed for Monday week. It had been stated "retry confidently that the Bill would he flerc ,- ..- attacked in its first stage, and this may ANN-mot for the :lint throng, both of Peers and strangers. The Lords, however, are not such terrible Draweansirs, as some would hare us be lieve they are. If the people do their duty, we will answer for it the Lords will do theirs. The bravest general that ever lived, would not think of making head against a hostile army with his staff alone. The mast staunch of those who believe that the goodness of a Constitution is in the ratio of the amount of taxation which is placed at the uncon trouled disposal of a favoured few, whatever aver sion they may have to any restraint being imposed on their access to the pockets of the people, must still have their misgivings when they see a whole nation art need against them, with petitions in one band, and the other significantly pointed to their closed pockets. We wish to impute madness to no class of our countrymen. We readily admit, that if we were Lords, rich in ancient blood, but poor if. purse, uvo might have our doubts as to the propriety of abandoning the means of feeding liberally on the people ; but still, when we easy the people determined to bold nut, we should abandon our doubts. The majority of the House of Peers have a good deal at stake, and though the people have also much to lose, the losses of the people would be hut a poor compensation to the Peers for their own calamity. There may be ' few hot-benched, reckless men among the Peers, as there are in all assemblies, but the majority will naturally be guided by a sense of their interests ; and it never surely can be their interests to involve the country in confusion. The story of the dog in the fade, is peculiarly apposite. By snatching at the shadow he lost the substance. By seeking more than the it own, they may come to have loss than their own. No man in the country has the smallest disposition to question their leg:Mt:rite privileges, but who shall say what may happen, if, not content with their legitimate privileges, they seek to encroach on the privileges of the people ? They who set an exam ple of disregarding the principles of justice, can hardly be astonished if others follow their example. Vigorous demonstrations throughout the country, as this crisis, may operate ns a salutary medicine to their Lordship.; and as the. people seem in stinctively aware of this, they are outrunning ex pectation. Men of property are but too well aware of the dii:::culties with which the middle classes, in particular, throughout the country, have been long struggling, and that it would not require a vast deal of rhetoric to persuade men, already impatient tinder stifferines, to have recourse to mea sures of a very efficacious nature. They see that the time for trifling is past—that no class of men can now be suffered to indulge in caprices, from which such serious consequences may result ; and hence, with heart and soul, all classes, rich and poor, now pull together. The meeting this day of the merchants, bankers, and traders of the metrepolis—men to whom peace and order are of the first importance, and who know well what would be the consequence of the slightest diminution of confidence—will show the peers, in a • ay not to be misunderstood, that the wealth as well as industry of the nation is bent on reform. Earl Grey, from his announcing a wish to consult the convenience of the house in fixing on a distant day for the second reading, if there were no discussion on the first, would seem to have been aware that no attempt would be made to throw out the bill in the outset. After the second reading, we presume that the bill Brill proceed without delay. HiRALL—This last popular ferment in Paris, in its origin, progress, and decline, assimilates very much to those others which have preceded it upon the trials of the Ex-Ministers in February last, and more lately in July. In all these cases the elements appear to have been prepared in some revolutionary club-houses, the explosions were concerted to take place in the streets, and the ef fects were intended to be produced in the Hall of the Legislature. We are now arrived at the last stage of this last caseate, when the flame of discord had reached the Chamber of Deputies. Towards the close of the sitting of Monday, and after M. Beienger had concluded his interesting report upon the Peerage, M. Mauguin rose to ask some questions of the Minister respecting the foreign policy of France, pursuant to a notice which he had given on Saturday. He began by dis claiming that his object then was to incite the Go- set anent to a war, for at that moment he conei- deter! war timid _be useless, sleet: France had not an ally left on whose behalf to fight. His avowed purpose was to arraign the ministry for I their conduct in reducing France to the degraded I state in which it was, and Poland to its present I ruin. M. Mauguin then, in an eloquent but violent tirade, proceeded to incriminate all the measures of the present ministry abroad. He contended that they might have assisted the Poles, at least by sea, as, in the infancy of the insurrection, the latter poseessi d sea-ports ; he censured them for the little ',reception a hich they took spinet Carlist move ments at hence, particularly in the south, though it eas plain that Lyons, which aas the hot-bed of Carl ism, might receive assistance in a few hours from an artily of 200,000 Austrians from Italy. He anim• adverted generally upon their neglect of the army, even tinder the present critical circumstances et France, and especially condemned them for re calling the Count Guilleminot from Constantinople, alien. he eulogised as a good Frenchman, and one se ho had done his best to give France an ally against Russia in the person of the Grand Seignior. M. bellotisini met this stormy attack upon his mea cures with a firmness which showed that he was net dizeosed to shrink from any part of the respon sibility attached to them. Ile asserted, in the out set, that the pacific track which he had followed at as not only the suggestion of his own judgment, Loa the most approved policy for France, after the weel mature deliberation. Very soon after the ra sa hen in, the general question of war or peace had I ten discussed, but decided in favour of the latter. lice Minister then proceeded to demonstrate that France col ance to flier way. ning with 6 r Point of defence. and France the conser (hinds - mai had nut neglected its duty—it had rt... ith Russia, and it was hoped not entirety out success, for the Cabinet of St. Petersburg pledged itself that the nationality of Poland should be respected. With respect to the recall of the Ambassador at Constantinople, M Sebaatiani jus tified it to the full extent, for he contended that M. Guilleminot, could not possibly serve either Poland r France by his interference, Turkey being unable to take any part, and to all diplomatic pur poses a perfect " corpse." The Minister conclu ded by repenting that France had done all that was possible for the Poles, consistently with the resole. tion of not involving the cnantry in a war with Prus sia, which had been agreed upon as the fittest and safest course to be pursued. This speech is report ed to have produced a very favourable effect upon the Chamber : for it is said upon its conclusion to have been greeted with loud cheers, while M. Mau guin's is dismissed with the more equivocal com pliment of its having caused a great " sensa tion." The remainder of the debate was more personal than even its opening, and M. Mauguin's violence, and his gratuitous charges against the Ministry,—particularly the last, of having pro duced the late disturbances—betrayed him into an enthatrassitient, front which, with all his address, he but ill extricated himself. The result of the die med. n hitherto appears to be a strengthening rathee than a diminution of the Ministerial preponder ance in the Chamber; but the struggle is not yet over, as the debate has been postponed to the following day. The sudden and rather extraordinary substitution of M. S,tulnier, the now Prefect of Police, for M. Vivien, is regarded as a fresh proof of M. Casimir Perier's influence with the King, for the latter, though of M. Odillon Barret's vio lent party, was personally acceptable to his Ma jesty, and strongly favoured by some of the mem bers of his family. The solidity of the Prime Mini.ter's power seems to receive fresh assurances fiom all these isolated acts. had IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, SEPT. 22. commission. The royal assent was given by commission to the English and Irish Exchequer Bills ; the Public Works (Ireland) Bill ; the Administration of Justice in Ireland Bill ; the Hackney.cosches Bill; the Land Tax Assessments, and several private Bills. The Commissionen were the Duke of Richmond, the Earl of -Shaftesbury, and the Lord Chan cellor. REFORM BILL. This great and important measure having posed the se vere ordeal to which it has been exposed in the House of Commons a strong desire was evinced to witness its recep tion in this House. The public gained admission below the Bar during the hearing of appeals, but la cane quence of the crowd which occupied the space appropriated to Members of the House of Commons being great, Sir Thomas Tyrwhitt, Usher of the Black Rod, was under the necessity of ordering the strangers to withdraw. The Bosse having bean cleared of those who obstructed the entrance of the Commons, public business was not likely to he impeded. A nutebet of ladles were seated at the entrance door below the liar. The upper end of the House and the steps of the throne appeared covered by Members of the Homo of Commons. Sir It. Peel and Mr. Wynn were prominent spectators of the scene. The Peers supposed to be adverse to the BSI were more numerous than those who sat on the Ministerial benches. A Noble Marquis (Loodonderry) was more conspicuous than others. He was distinguished by wearing on his bteast a large bouquet, composed of cadet and white geranium. • Several Peers were ha attendance upon this occasion who seldom come to the House. About five o'clock the Lord Chancellor took his seat on the wool uck, and shortly after the Deputy Usher announ ced a message from the House of Commons. The Lord CHANCELLOR In a tone unusually formal, put the question—ls it your Lordships' pleasure the messen. gers be called in ? The question being decided in the affirmative, the doors were thrown open. Lord John Russell, bearing the Reform bill, Lord Althorp, Lord Palmerstco, and most of the leading members of the Commons, who have taken an ac tive part in support of Reform, then entered, and proceeded to the Bar. The rush on the occasion excited great appre hension for the safety of several hon. members, who ap peared to suffer in the contest to get forward. The Lord CHANCELLOR approached the bar with a smile of satisfaction. Lord J. RUSSELL, presenting the bill, said,—" The Commons have passed a bill, entitled an Act to amend the representation in England and Wales, to which they desire your Lordships' concurrence." The last words of the Noble Lord were followed by " Hear hear !" loudly and significantly expressed b Member of the deptitaiion. The LORD CHANCELLOR received the Bill, and resuming his seat on the Woolsack, said—" My Lords, a message from the Commons, brought by Lord John Russell and others, is, that the House of Commons have passed a Bill, entitled an Ace to amend the Representation in Rng. land and Wales, to which they call for your Lordships' concurrence." The Bill was laid on the table, and the Commons with. drew from the Bar. Earl GREY, some time after, entered the House, and addressing the Peers, said,—hly Lords, I was not bete when the Reform Bill was brought up from the Commons, and I now rise to move the first reading. I should also propose, my Lords, that your Lordship fix a day for the second reading. With a wish to consult the convenience of the House, I would propose the second reading take plane on Monday se'nnight. The Bill was then read the first time and ordered to be printed. Earl GREY.—My Lords, I should like after the second reading of the Bill to go into committee with the least possible delay. I move the Bill be read a second tune on ' 3londay se'nnight, and that the House be summoned for that day. The question was put and carried. The Bill accordingly stands for the second reading on Monday week, without one word having been said against the propositions of the noble earl, who has taken it under his especial guidance. BELGIUM. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY gave notice that it was his intention, on Monday next, to put further ques tions to his lilsjesty's Government, with respect to our affairs in Belgium. The Waterloo Street 13111 was read the third time and passed. The Ways and Means Bill went through a connnitte. The Bankruptcy Bill was re-committed pro forma. TATICRITTIONT LIMITATION BILL. On the motion of Lord TENTERDEN the bones re ' solved itself into a committee on the bill to limit preactip. tive rights, claims to modules for tithes, &c. The Bishop of BRISTOL having introduced several amendments, the same, after a few remarks from Lord El. don and the Bishop of Landon, were agreed to and ordered to stand part of the Bill ; the house then resumed and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. On the suggestion of the Earl of Aberdeen, the second reading of the Wine Duties Bill, which stood for Monday, was postponed to Tuesday. The LORD CHANCELLOR then resumed the bear. ing of appeals, and at the usual hour the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Previously , to the opening tithe gallery, there was &belied fora Committee to try the merits of the Dublin City Elec. Lion Committe. Col. EVANS presented four petitions from Manchester, Winchester. &r. praying for inquiry into the case Deacle. then summoned to attend in the House of oe Royal Assent given by Commission to (See Lords.] ..LETON presented petitions from the Arch- Stafford. from Burdens, &e. praying for an Beer SUL He thought the Clergy, if at the Bill was Inimical to the interests *oldest in stepping forward on th e pre. they had done.—.. Ordered to be printed. ,10/ECIITIONS roe neutrons. ,NT presented a petition, alined by upwards e l Aland persons of HaddersSeid, complaining tif pro. ..ons for opinions, and particularly of the prossosdos of Taylor and Mr. Cathie ; also of the Assodation culled the Vice Suppression Society. (Wblle IL: Hunt was speaking, Lord JobeAseimilish his rest, took the " Bill" from the Table, sad hentethetly ell the members on the Ministerial side of the Holies rase, lid accompanied Lord Jobe Russell and the Bill to the L ails. About two hundred and fifty members eeessepa• Mud his lordship.) Mr. HUME said, that while such seta Ned peousa4 eentlnued, the British nation would never deism the name tsf " Liberal." Mr. STRICKLAND supported the parr of the peti. Lion, and said he had heard the manly declaration of Lord Althorp a few evenings ago, respecting freedom of opinion and publication, with very great satisfaction. Ordered to be printed. Colonel TORRENS intimated that to-morrow he should put a question to the honourable and learned member for Boroughbridge (Sir C. Wetherell) as to some remarks attri. holed to him in his (Col. T.'s) speech at the Common-hall. Captain GORDON postponed till Thursday nest, his motion regarding seditious and blasphemous libels. could not have given any substantial assist. Warwick, Wincheato Poland, either by sea or laq—in .41ke -for- of .31r* and Mrs. Des without t rovnking a genera war,‘egin- to th Prussial apil by. -the.laUskast 4:01 . v. . Bills. [(see rod was 'without mountains. 07b*Oi m. LYTTLRTI ce. The Poles had no por %OW "anti 01 Stafford ta* * ent of the I nco coul4 not enter th4,131+4. they considered That cent of Turkey. lilut;*ivivnair alt if-easislity, were je stages, the Government of Louis-Philippe me =salon, as tla Mr. HUNT preu neglected its duty—it bad remooirs PROE( AI. AIM MIS. DiACI.I4 Colonel EVA Rirore To move that the petition for en quiry into the cave of Mr. and Mrs. Deatie be referred to a Committee. He did not desire to produce any debate on the subject; bnt curiously enough, neither the Borings nor the Deacies *ere 4atistied with his conduct and state. menus, which showed that he bad not evinced any partiality to either party. Mr. WILKES seconded the motion. _ _ Mr. F. BARING observed, that he should afford facility to promote the investigation. Lord ALTHORP said, the motion was of the greatest importance, and calculated to lead to serious consequences, if matters already decided by Courts of Law were to be again Investigated by Committees of that House. (Hear.) He knew the parties immediately concerned desired the fullest Investigation, but be must look to the principle of the mo tion; and he, therefore, regretted to say that he must op pose the motion. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME was surprised at this opposition, because be had understood that the Ministers would approve the motion; it being resisted—and so unexpectedly—he thought it was only fair that the motion should be allowed to be adjourned. • Lord ALTHORP did not wish any body to be taken by surprise ; he had no objection to the modem being postponed ; but the better way would be to withdraw it, and thus allow the motion to be remodelled if that were requisite. He suggested that it be again brought forward on Tuesday. After some explanations from Mr. Marna and Sr T. BAYING, Mr. Gt lULEU RN thought the motion ought to be at once concluded, or regularly proceeded with. Mr. ROBINSON thought that the inquiry by their corn. i mittee would not satisfy or settle the public mind. Col. EVANS said, he was prepared to comply with the suggestion of the noble lord. He should withdraw the mo tion, and renew it on Tuesday. Sir J. SCA RLETT said what would be the result of any such inquiry ? What would be the effect of instituting in quiries on petitions, complaining of magistrates ? If the complaints were deemed to have been proved, they could only address the Crown for the removal of the magistrate,. That would not be from evidence on oath. If the complaints were received they would be preferred once a week ; for there was a spirit abroad to bring the whole of the wag's traey lbto contempt. Sir R. VTVYAN thought that the business had better proceed. Mr. HUNT contended that inquiry ought to be insti tuted, because they could not apply to the Court of King's Bench except there were corrupt conduct and comer in tention attributed to the Magistrates. It there were no inquiry, the house would not improve its character for jus tice. Mr. LAMB regretted that be should entertain the harsh opinion, as it might appear that this inquiry could not be advantageously proceeded with. (Hear, hear.) The peti tions that had been presented wets highly honourable to the feelings of the country; but to what good result could In quiries by that house lead? (Hear.) Let it be remembered that the friends of the motion required the postpeointent. The motion was then withdrawn. wHITZIOT 011ZNC1111. Mr. STANLEY moved for leave to bring Inn MB to amend the law relating to ' Whiteboy' offenses in Ireland. He enumerated the series of Wiriteboy offences now punish able with death. He proposed to remit the capital punish maw, and substitute transportation, that being infinitely more dreaded than death. He el ms proposed to do away with the distinction of offences committed lathe day or ht time ;at present these offences, when cosonslood r the day the time, were misdemeanours, and caoml perganeead Is die night. He also proposed to repeal dames giving power to magistrates to search foe arms where the perties were papists. He took this oppeet ra rty of saying duel* pm posed in this session, as arms, to revive the existing act for one year. (hear) He did so on account of the stets of the session. He should next session consolidate the laws on this subject. He concluded with moving for leave to bring In the Bill to amend the law regarding Whiteboy offences. Mr. O'CONNELL approved of this mitigation of severe 1 1 1 and sanguinary laws. Motion agreed to. • fuss ati7Oase. Mr. NORTH puts question to the Chancellor of the Es. chequer, requesting to know when the second reading of the Irish reform bill would be fixed foe ? Lord ALTHORP replied that it was intended to move it OD Monday nest. The report of the sugar refining bill, after some conversa tion, was brought up and re-committed for further consi deration on Wednesday. The Enclosure Act Title Bill was re-committed for Wed nesday next. Mr. HUME presented a petition from a person named Edward Wyndburst, who resided it Chelsea, and having been in London, had purchased two copies of a political handkerchief, printed on calico, which he was carrying home, when he was met by a man on the way, who earnestly Importuned hint to sell one of them be very reluctantly consented, and for which he was ta ken in custody by the man, who turned out to be a policeman in disguise, and had been sentenced to three months to the House of Correction, Coldbath-fields, by a Magistrate. His family bad been left In a state et destitution. The Hon. Member lobbed by moving for a copy of his commitment, which was agreed to. The other orders of the day being disposed of, the House adjourned at a little past B ht. FORM U 1 %EELLIGENCE. CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES, MO NDAY—DE BA TE ON POLAND. 11. Slam:mm-1 demand an account from Ministers of their political conduct. It is now a month since. on the dis cussion of the Address, you made known your solicitude for Poland. Poland has perished; and I am desirous al knowing whether that grevious loss is the work of the Ml nistry, through Its weakness or its polies. I am aware, that whenever Poland has been mentioned, Ministers never failed to declare, that to undertake its defence would be the means of bringing on a general war. At a distance df four hundred leagues from it, frontiers, and separated front it by Germany, what wield we do for it? I know not how the King's Ministers could address to us such questions. You had various means of assisting Poland. Gratitude, which would have op ene d to i t a communication through Prus.l ski, would have doubled the courage of the Poles. You could intervene between Poland and Russia as me -1 diatom ; could you not have sent secret awistance in the shape of money and arms ? And why secret assistance ? Had you not Beets ? Had you cot the Baltic and the Black Sea? When the insurrection broke out in all the Russian did they not seaports ? You would thus Lle i nea aidede the insurrection, doubled the force of the Poles, and saved %Varese ! If she has fallen, is It not because Russia fouud assistance, subsidies, and arms in Prussia? And the army of Paskewitsth, trusting to that alliance and obtaining from it additional force, has been enabled to enter Warsaw, and not been forced to retreat. Could not an ac count ha ve been demanded from Prussia of that petadious neutrality ? Instead of looking for enemies to Russia, the ambassador who endeavoured to give us Turkey for an ally, ' bee beib theallsd. But that is not the most serious reproach; arms and amaranth refitted to Poland, as was the guaran. tug for the loan dm Ailed to contract. If the Polish agents are to bo believed, warm would have been done—Polish cou rage would not have bees extinguished. It is related that on the 23d June. die / French ministry made insidious promises a Poised. It was only asked that she would not engage in spiral bottle. The Osmond waited, and Poland fell. What matters it ? Order reigns in Warsaw.' The Govern. meot ought to lay before us the defensive state of France. ' Well, I will declare that our army is not what it ought to be. Would you know what is the condition in which • our most important frontiers at Besancon and Marseilles are left ? We have only thtreeen regiments of infantry, and four of cavalry." [Here a member mid, " But that is something."] " Yes," continued M. Mauguin, " t h at is something ; • but have you considered the extent of that froatier—Besangon, Dijon, Lyons, Marseille,. Perpignan ? and yet there are only seventeen regiments. This is said to be something; but what are the effective numbers of these , regiments ? Austria is but a short distance from Lyons or Marseilles ; she might, therefore, easily cut off part of our' provinces, and you would have nothing to oppose to her marching 200,000 men into Prance. Piedmont has now a nominal force of 100,000 men, which was but 80,000, and the King has erected a loan. Austria might in this direction send in upon us 160,000 men. You au, there. tote, it is not aggressive war I demand, but only a ,cif. ficient defence. In Italy and Spain in 1823 a party de. clued that we should have no war, and yet those coun. tries were invaded. The same has been renewed in Belgium. Last year we had Italy, Poland, and Belgium for our allies, but now we stand alone, while the English aria. tocracy is endeavouring to foment plots against us. The Government must at length awake, or we shall be forced to take other means."—The Chamber was greatly agitated after this speech. The Minister for Foreign Affairs, in rising to reply, said; it is not without deep emotion that I appear at this tribune; If speak with grief of t he disasters of Poland, I shall be accused of being wanting to the truth ; and if I render an account of facts with simplicity, I shall be charged with dryness. I am about to lay Lefore you the documents and the facts. Vague accusations are out of the question, and we must have a decision of the Chamber. If Ministers are culpable, you have the terrible right of impeachment; If they are unskilful, the way to the Throne is open before you; —pronounce. Last year, as at preint, France was divided between two systems—peace and war. We chose peace, and you will see whether we did well or not. The Revolu tion of July created a powerful sensation in Europe. In Russia it was received with dissatisfaction, but this dissatis. faction soon diminished.—(Hear !) Shortly after, the Revo. lotion in Belgium broke out. The kingdom of the Nether lands Lad been set up against France, and fortresss bad been erected there with the money of all the Powers.— I speak of a time of adversity and of painful events, which will not be renewed if France be prudent Nita. doe]. No one has more respect than myself for France, or knows her forces better. I have long served in her army, and only quitted a military career when there were no more enemies to combat. The Minister then recapitulated the early events in Belgium and Poland, and the first diplomatic relations of France with the divets States of Europe. The language of the other governments was firm and conciliatory. But the Government will never forget that Poland was a Stare of three millions of men, without ports, without mountains, and without means of defence. Overtures, nevertheless, were made at St. Petersburgh. The Emperor of Russia was made to feel that there were two questions in that of Poland—one a Russian question, and the other a European one. The Cabinet of St. Petersborgh promised that the kingdom of Poland should be preserved. This promise had been lately repeated. All the great Powers of Europe are in accord upon this question. Here General Sebastiani read the following despatches, which prove that the Government has claimed the strict execution of the Treaties of Vienna upon the kingdom of Poland, and that in this respect the most positive assurances have been given:by Russia. The Ant, dated St. Petersburgh, Aug. 31, says— " The Ambassador has already stated to our Excellency with what moderation the Russian Cabinet bad viewed the entrance of the French into Belgium. It was natural to see the inhabitants of this capital express their pleasure at the first news of the success obtained by the Dutch over the Bel. en:iThis predilection of the hthabitants of Se. Peters t for an army commanded by the brother in law of the Emperor is easily accounted for. The retreat of the Dutch before your army increases the hope of removing by negoela. -ties difficulties which might have become fatal to the peace of Europe. Your Excellency must Nye already been ac quainted with the operadons of the Russian army related in the annexed bulletins. Faithfid to the Jeanie/ono which have been given me by his Majesty's Ministers, I shall continue to claim the strict execution of the Treaties in favour of Poland. The Duke de Mortemart bah received the most positive promisee on this point, and, like him, I shall always represent how much it will be in the interest of Russia and that of justice to fulfil these promises religiously." The following document is dated Sept. 2: " The Chamber, in expressing in the name of France the assurance that the nationality of Poland should be seemed to that heroic people, intimates a wish which is founded on the formal and reiterated promises of the Emperor. The Duke of Mortemart has taken with him on this subject the most positive assurances. In his conferences with the Em. woe and M. de Nesselrode, he never expressed the least desk of the promise being about to be realised. These pro mise, moreover, are guaranteed by that memorable expru sin, that the word of a Sovereign should be inviolable as the decrees of Providence. (Cheers from the centres.) — These ars our principles. In the meanwhile, I have had an iterview with Al. de Neeseirode, to remind him of the as surances of the Prussian Government, and induce him to use all his efforts in favour of the Poles, so as to effect their independence as guaranteed by existing treaties. He con firms the repeated assurances, and causes the King to cond. nue in his dispositions on this subject. He stated to me that there was every reason to trust to them, at the Emperor Nicholas had expressed his positive intention to concur with Prussia and England, as interested powers in the measures to be taken for the pacification of Poland." You see, gentlemen," continued the Minister, "that the policy of France was candid. The Government dial not stop there, but ofibred its mediation. The answer given was, that the language of pace must also be heard elsewhere. Appli cations were made to all the great Powers, but these cowl dered that the moment had not yet arrived. Let me be al lowed hers to mention an historical fact that is well known to the Chamber. When In our war of 1792, the democratic party of the United States demanded that we should be supported by that country, Washington opposed it, and would only occupy himself with his own country. This opposition rendered him unpopular, and he died unpopular' but his memory has been avenged by the suffrages of the United States and the whole world (bear, hear). It has been asserted that we promised to acknowledge Poland. This is untrue. It has even been asserted that we counselled Poland to abandon the offensive, and thus caused the brave Polish army to lose the advantage. it had obtained. This is equally false." To support these denials the Minister read a report made to the Diet. " A Government," he ad ded, " cannot answer for the military faults of a foreign na tion for cheeks expaisseed on the banks of the Vitale. If such was the responsibility of a Minister, I confess that I would take are not to accept it." The Minister next sought to prove that it was impossible to succour Poland. The Baltic had no port, and the Black Sea could not be entered without the consent of Turkey. The recall of AL Galli minot was conformable to the system pursued by the Ad ministration. " Our system," said be " was a syatwt of peace. We thdught it. and we still think it, eantilant with the true interests of France ; and our instructing to all our Ambassadors have been io coofermity with it. Ow Am bassador in Turkey learned that a edimil between Austria and France, and awn ho. tween France and Russia. He immediately delimited a We to the Divan, calling upon Turkey m take up sane and amigo the affronts she bad sustained. Turkey, in alarm se the seas. munication. the next day placed the note in the hoods edict representatives of all the other powers. He had molten, it must be confessed, to a lifeless body. The hematologist had confessed that all political measures depended a tints.t ints. stances ; and ought not th e Ambassador se hays pes made his. self acquainted with what it was in the power of the Ted to do before he delivered his note 1' Thelma, WAS dated ea the Alith ; on the 28th it was in the °llll hat e di sel 4 all the Ambassadors; and in the evening of that elsilt sent off to each of their Cabinets. The French went was soon made acquainted with it, but the Avabsassier had sent two subsequent despatches, dated the_ de* and 31st, without makin g an y mention of it. The FNMA Go vernment, therefore, treated it as la fable, sad denbtiog that if it had actually existed, the Ambassador could not have failed to inform them of it. In a few days afterwards, however, they learned that it was real. The recall of the Ambassador was not required by any one of the Powers ; but France conceived that bet ambassadors were bound to follow their instnie t : r . 4 God forbid that any attempt should be made to Lulli.:, honour of a brave, enlightened, and experienced offi cer . I I ; was deceived, and who might not be deceived when et „ 44 a distance ? This, however, was not a sufficient excii.e to the Cabinet, which did that which it was their duty to The minister then argued, that the acknowledgment of land would have led to no favourable result. It wouhf merely have compromised us without utility. The inter, vention of Prussia in the affairs of Poland is complained id, but an the same time it is asked why we did n ot intervene ? Prussia maintained her neutrality, but only in preventin g succour being conveyed to the Poles across her territory. (This speech was received with load and repeated cheers.) Al. Matrount, on rising to reply, said that h e h eard Deputy say, as be passed to the Tribune, " he wants to excite a riot." He was astonished that any Member should use such an expression, and not avow it openly [agitation!. The Perinatal. of the Commie : We should hate been glad if M. hlauguin bad brought forward on Saturday t h e questions which he has now put ; for probably we should have been spared the agitation prevailing in the capital (violent interruption from the extremes). Allow me but a few minutes allow. France and all &rope should hear the defence as weU as the accusation. It may be seen that France has done all that was in her power to do to in. dulge her feelings in favour of Poland. I entreat the Cham ber to go through the whole of the accusations to-day. Be. fore the cry of " Vire la Pologne !" every true citizen will cry Vive k Rol " Vire la France !" Several Alembev; immediately repeated " Vire le Roi!' " Vive la France!" M. 31avoing.—It has been said, that if these explana. tions bad been required on Saturday, the disturbances would not have taken place. I regret them extremely. No one can blame more than I do those who go into the public places to demand that justice which they ought only to sea fur through the laws. M. DUPIN.I can upon the hon. deputy to explain the sense In which he uses the word justice. 31. Maw:stmt.—That word does not perhaps express my meaning correctly. I meant to say that no one can blame MOM than I do those who, by seditious cries in the public places, demand that which they ought to seek only from the Government. I know nothing that can do a greater in. jury to the cause of the hevolution of July than public riots, and perhaps there may be some t rut h in the accusa tion that they have been excited by certain authorities. The TILESIDENT of the Couxem, with warmth re. plied a When it is insinuated Cat riots are promened by the Government, we in our turn have a right to demand an explanation. Al. Mangum I never assert a fact without being able to prove it (prove, prove.) The Chamber shall have the proof if it will order an inquiry. In several of these riots the agency of the police has been traced (redoubled cries of " Prove, prove !") The Honourable Member then en. endeavoured to establish that the riots arose from the sp. ton of the Ministry. The Keeper of the Seals rose;st six o'clock, and replied to the accusations of DI. Alauguin with considerable force and spirit. He then commenced the question of the insurrec tions, and confined himself to showing that they all arose from one cause. The orator read several letters, and some papers of the society of the friends of the people, several num. bars of a journal called Mara:, and some Carlist vases, all Wet were the cause of the disturbed state of the mob. lie argued that these facts clearly proved that the temedy lay in the prompt and bold measure of the Chambers, in concert with the Government. Now, therefore, was the time for the Chambers boldly to declare their intention ; any delay and uncertainty would prove fatal. (Cries from all directions, To-morrow ! to.morrow !") Lamarque, who was waiting an opportunity, rose for the purpose of speaking, but the lateness of the hour obliged them to adjourn to the morrow the conclusion of the debate. The approaches to the Chamber were much less encumbered on Tuesday than they were yesterday. The feeling of excitement in the streets and in public places has evidently well-nigh exhausted itself ; and it is to be hoped that returning tran quillity without will impart a corresponding calm to the proceedings within the Chamber during the adjourned debate announced for this morning.— Long before 12 o'clock, the hour to which the sitting was yesterday adjourned, the public gal leries have been filled with more than their complement of company. As yesterday, the Dey of Algiers has taken his seat in the tri bune reserved for the Corps Diplomatique. Al , though punctual to the hour of noon, his highness has found the front seats occupied by a row of la dies connected with the different embassies ; but without abandoning any place, they have contrived to make way for the old man between two of them, while his Dragoman, M. Jeannie, and his faithful and inseparable Mustapha, are seated immediately behind him. En attendant, the presence of the Dey has afforded the topic of animated conversa tion among the groups of deputies assembled in the middle of the Chamber, as well as along the public galleries. The words " sugar," " cotton," "colonisation," are pronounced on the one side with becoming emphasis and appropriate gesticula tion ; on the other, " England and war," " pesti lence and famine," from alt which I leave you to draw your own conclusions. The lady on the right of the Dey is the Principessa di Belkgera, the celebrated conspiratrice Italienne. After some discussion on the conduct of the Na tional Guards, in consequence of the complaint of two deputies, that they had been interrupted and nearly rode over on leaving the Chamber yester day, the order of the day was called, and the de bate on foreign affairs resumed. General LAYMIQUE, being called to the Ttibune, said that the present French Goverment had merely continued the system of the Holy Alliance, and animadverted on its conduct towards Belgium, where they had raised a shadow of a kingdom—a shadow of a King—who would do well, he said, to have always his trunks ready packed, and a steam. boat in attendance at Antwerp, to sail when it would please the Prince of Orange to invade the country. He then asked, what had the interference of France in the affairs of Belgium produced ? You have, he said, shamefully evacuated its ter ritory, without even overturning the lion on the monument of Waterloo—without assisting at the demolition of the strong place; leaving our interests at the mercy of the London Conference and oar enemies. General Lemarque then examined the collections of the Ministry for not assist ing Poland. According to him, it was not necessary for the French armies to cross the 400 leagues that separate France from Poland ; nor for the fleets of Ranee to appear in the Baltic or the Black Sea. France should have seam ener getically to Prussia, as she did in the coos of Belgium, to which that country bald by family ties , ma Poland would have been saved. He then blamed the Govenument for not following up the suggestions of General Guilltweinot relative to Turkey. since the old hatred existing between the Turks and the Russians would have restored life to that esepse, and the former would now be la the Ukraine. He then took to pieces M. Sebastianes speech. "If you behave well," said the latter, " you shall not be invaded." But what is Areopagus. I ask, to decide whether we behave right or wrests tlite Kings of Romp, no doubt ; and these will. of caws% decide that woad as behave well in Jsly 100. The Oweeral afterwards yssmend salary oweeidieider on the peelbility of an lassies es the poet of hurls and Austria, the hater ai when, ha hal mesa hi bow had I MMO ersa—end wet alp AM, as dee Minima; bad ammeil—.witbin a few haws' emit et the hoods Senders. He denied that France was at this inseam preperad to resist an invasion ; the army cos net on the respectable footin. , it might be, and the amiable National Guard. whirl; would require at Wit sin imam so train, were not even called out. He censinied by hawing of the Ministry to ems Inward with .Medal derimusta, and not mere words, to show that they had dose dale duty to the country. M. Mien, the yereger, anewsod the arguments ofGc weal Lsnweque eel delhadei the exteeeal policy of the Government. Hs sea a rape of t he proceedings of the great Mere with renew resisted she pre ""seslTlMents of M. Br SS te Only of the troops of A into the Mates the Church, and contended that Frames weld es nab SS a war without the assurance-- the cordtude—et leernlag the sea swims doyen. Hz acknowledged his apywalmoion of die perilous sonsequenco to Prance which war asset cent' in its train. la alluding to the last Spealsh inslaisa, M. niers fell into 3 dim ~. ~,