Star. — London, England, 1823-06-27 00:00:00

S . I',lllLrAm 47ARIINIOCEEDINGS. • • 110USit OF LOADS, JUNE 2r. 711 . r. Bitocnxn, Sir Ti. PAR/Ctli i Dr. PHILLIMOint; end others, front the Houss. of Commons., brought up the Labour of Con victs Bill, the Larcenies (Benefit of Clergy) Bill, the Felonies (Benefit of Clergy) Bill, the Capital Punishments Repeal Bill, the Sentence of Death Bill, and the ikwth and Holyhead Har bour Bill, which Bills were respectively read a first time. Viscount AIELVI I. LE moved the second reading of the New London Bridge Erection Bill, and for making suitable ap proaches and avenues to the same. .Lord ELLENBOROUGH presented a Petition from the Parish of St. Magnus, near London Bridge, against the Bill ; and another front the L ord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons, of she City of Loudon, who expressed their disapprobation of the plan adopted for building the proposed New Bridge, though hitherto they had facilitated its introductior. to the House. They row prayed, that in the event of their Lordships seeing fit to proceed with the Bill, they might be heard by Counsel in oppo sition to the Bill. Upon the motion of the Noble Lord, who expressed himself in favour of the building of the New Bridge, the Petition was read throughout, ind then referred to the Standing (Trade Bills) Committee. The Ireland Commercial Credit Bill was read a third time, passed, and messaged to the other House. relitiolli were presented from - some Law Officers of the Caurt against the Ireland Chancery Regulation Bill; and, at the suggesticn of the Earl Of DONOUGII3IOIC, the second reading W u deferred. Earl G ROSVENOR rose for the purpose of putting a ques tion to a Noble Earl (Liverpool), at present in his place, as to sinecures in reversion or otherwise, and also as to places not deemed to be sinecures, but in the enjoyment of which salaries %sere received while no duties were performed by the parties so rentwerated, or rather so paid? It was fitting that the House should he informed what sinecures had really been abolished, and what others, not altogether sinecures In an official sense, though very near it, remained, so that it might be clearly understood Where their Lordships and the country were. He had some Re turns to move for. which he believed would not be objected to by the Noble Earl. It bad frequently been said that no sinecures now remained to be abolished ; and accordingly all be now wished was to ascertain that fact beyond the possibility of doubt. The Noble Earl moved for Damns of all offices still performed by deputies, where salaries were paid; also for offices paid in fees; and further, of those offices where Alai's were paid without duties being performed. The Earl of LIVERPOOL—I really don't know of the existence of such offices as are described in the Noble Earl's last item of Returns—offices where salaries are received, yet where no duties are performed. If,- however, the Noble Earl posses. sea due information to the contrary, I certainly 'hall be most willing to profit by it. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, that in truth no such Offices now existed as those mentioned, or supposed to exist, by the Noble Earl who had moved for• Returns. As to offices which were performed by deputy, the persons who selected those depu ties-were responsible for their conduct, which of itself was a serious affair to them.—The two first motions were agreed to, hht the latter was withdrawn. Lind KING presented a Petition from Mr. Richard Gay thorhe Butt, complaining of injuries from imprisonment,though ' since released 'from it; and praying their Lordships for such re dress as to themselves should appear fit. Read and laid on the table. Upon the motion of the &A of Lautontroaxx, the L3f9 for rettaering valid-Certain English 'marriages In Russia; contracted alike the abolition of the British• Factory, was read a second time, and then ordered to be - committed for Monday. JURISDICTION. The Order of the Day, upon which their Lord ships had been summoned, was now moved, for con sidering the Appellate Report ftom their Lordships' Committees, and for introducing some measures in pursuance of the same. The Earl of LIVERI S OOL said, that it was not his intention to enter at any length into all the msgg. gestions contained - in this Report now upon the table of the House. He Meant - tibly to bring in one Bill, which he should propose for discussion at another time, while laying the Resolution which embodied and declared what *as proposed for the adoption of their Lordships with regardtothe Appellate Juris diction on the table of the House. It was proper to state, however, with briefness, what had given rise to the appointment of the Committee whose-Report was before their Lordships; what was the nature.Of that opinion by which the Committee had been goierned in forming their conclusions; and further, what were the remedies which the Committee had been induced to propose for to essential an alteration in the admi nistration of the judicial functions of the House. Here, in the first place, it should be recollected' that' in 1813 their Lordships had resolved to sit three dayi in every week for the purpose of hearing the Appeals Made from different and distant parts of the United kingdom; and to accelerate their progress through the House; it was agreed that their Lordships would, upon those alternate days, assemble in geueral by the hour of ten in the morning, and continue, if possible, till nearly four. Whatever were the difficulties they now perceived to exist on this score, it was creditable to their Lordships that they had adhered to this stand ing order, from that period to the present day, with such few exceptions as it was impossible to foresee or to prevent. Yet, after all this attention, if their Lord ships now looked at the Appeal Returns on:the table of the House, it would unfortunately be seen, "that they had not been able to overtake, if he might so express it, the business of deciding in such cases, Which since the year 1813 had increased to 500 in number; and thus the state of business was nearly as bad as ever. These remained for hearing not less than 212 Appeals; from which circumstance their Lordships might see what the arrear of business was in this respect; but he had no manner of difficulty in saying that all the evil lay in the accumulation of Scotch Appeals, and the protracted' nature of their pleadings. In number those cases were as five or six from Scotland to about one only from England, and from Scotland there came forty Appeals in one year, while, besides, the length of the latter was much greater than those from England or Ireland. All the grievance lay, theieforc, in that portion of the Ap pellate Jurisdiction of the House coming from Scot land; for otherwise, if arrears were first got ricrof, there would be no difficulty in keeping the. judicial business of the House within proper bounds, which would certainly be a most happy consequence to the legal business and general convenience of the country at large. So far then their Lordships knew* the entiie and only cause of the evil now before them. Now, looking at the matter under this aspect,this first gutstion that occurred was, the possibility of removing that portion of the Appellate Jurisdiction which re fers to Scotland from their Lordshipseand transferriog it to another quarter; for if this alternative Were practicable, there was an end of the evils at once. NVas it not possible to create a new special tribunal for the hearing of Scottish appeals; he would not say now, but, at any rate, hereafter? It was perfectly true that this House was called a dernier resell to decide great litigated points ; but it surely could not be wished that they should be expected to detide - on questions of law where Os laws themselves tyre as theereit as those of foreign States from those orthis - eoiihtry; for in this respect the laws of Scotland bore no affi nity to those of Ragland, nor' even to those of Ire land. He-believed that his Noble arid l e earned Friend (the Lord Chancellor) had succeeded in iolminister ing the law of Scotland with as much satisfaction as it was allowed he had administered the law of Eng : land. Such also was the case with another Noble and Learned Lord—lie meant Lord Redesdale—and he'believed that two or: three individuak were iitilai fied in a similar war iltut excepting such persons, it appeared thatthe selMe of the Learned Judges, and the gee. 'ority of the legal profession, were nearly V? as igno the laws of Scotland as of the laws of foreign es. Looking at all this, the , sole remedy. was, be conceived, the relieving the House itself from the burthen of Scotch Appeals; but here again lie believed that the people of Scotland Would regret most seriously the removing of their jurisdiction as appellants, and look upon the alteration with no pleasure. Should, however, their Lordships be.of opinfon that this particular right of appeal ought to be removed as to the future, the measure could by no means apply to those appeals now before the House, though it was not possible for them to be completely got rid of before a considereblelength of time. Hence, therefore, the Committee had looked to other measures, in order to meet the difficulty of clearing off the appeals now entertained, and to be Cecided by the House—measures which might all& ate, though they could not remove, the evils of de lay in such cases at once, or eltogether. Thus; for example, due distinctions in pleadings were pointed out between the matter of fact, matter of law, and matter of equity ; so that, by resorting to those dis tinctions, when facts were once cleared of other points, the decision, on the application of law to fact, might in most cases be anticipated in the English Courts, which, however, was the reverse in the Scottish Courts. If, therefore, it was Wished to bring about, a complete revision the method of pleading in Scotland, it should never be overlooked bow impor tant it was to substitute the proceeding by dial teste. - , mOny in preference to writing,. as recommended by the Committee, by which much of the evil would undoubtedly be removed. He therefore could sea no manner of objection to the appointment of a Corn., mission forthwith, in order to investigate this portion of the administration of justice; and he was satis fied that such a Commisston, well appointed, might soon be enabled to repirrt the result of their inquiries to the House. Hence no real. time would be lost, for the Report of the Commission must necessarily come to their Lordships kin before the pending' Appeals could possibly be disposed of. His first.preposition to their Lordships was, therefore, to bring in imme diately a 'specific i Bill for the appoiatment of the Commission he had.deseribed. But the neat impor tant point was the question, whet remained tohepro vided for the present arrear of appeals, as it was not possible to send them to any.otber tribunid than. this , House? So far, therefore, as.the.questiost ,of that lrrrearage went, their- Lordships ;nest not only dO komethipg, but even that something must be acme Promptly. Let it here he reclaimed, that dick Loll'. 'ships had for fevers'. years already been intitebabit of sitting three days every Week,liePing to forward khe business of appeals, which consumption of time was really 'so- much ;opportunity lost for ever. to his Noble and Learned Feiendtespecting the proceedings: in the Court of Chancery; yet he saw no. way of re medy but by increasing the number of appellate days. -It was upon this principle that the CoMmittee had proposed the hearing of appeals for five days in every week, instead of three only ; and it was at first intended to propose six days in every week, but it was considered that five days would be quite suffi cient for such hearings t as their Lordships had gene ,rally to deal w ith-the most important of (muses, *bid) -required intheir consideration the fullest, attetch.ol , even the most enlarged minds ;, and, rtherefore, the, proposed days for hearing such causes were sethtstd: toSve in eery week. Theisen question wasAispect jog the time , of- aaendance.otrituch 'captive rip. the - House. Here it should also' be.vbserved -diet his *Noble and Learned Friend had atOood*dlitor Aims: days in nearly every week, ever since she year •18 1 / 4 ' which proved a great interruption to his , euty in bib, peculiar Court; but if their lordship's woe 'to sit for appeals fives thsys together in every week, his Noble and Learned Friend must Hof necessity be relieved from his attendance in the-House, and .mea- Ores must be taken, not °flirt° _supply his place but' also to enfince the attendance of ether Peers, - in suc cession, for the expediting of such causes. He hoped. that the result would not be objected to, .as ?MOM mended by the COmmittee* when. it was ptebollile that only two days attendantecould in each Session-be:re quisied of each available-Peer ; and, - in order.to.pro vide for such attendance, it. was.agneed in-the Coni.- mittee, that it would "be expedient to ..resort tothe fine ordered for non-attendance. •on the ail oißtins and Penalties, a . penalty inahis instance. not so aotere, .as their Lordships Were( entitled.to attend • isrushsti lutes. 'Next arose animpoitant consideration ohm ther. kind, namely, thaquestion as to. whatTersons should sit in .the. House forthe purpose. of .discherg-, ing the duties VI long fulfilled by this Noble -and I Learned Friend ? Ande'he-mustebjegt.to:all ar rangement which fell short' of -relieving. .their Lord ships as speedily as. praetioabk from-the vast-arrrar in appeal •eases;. and:;vhich, also, did not enable his Noble and Learned(Friend to: sit move froqoaitly in his own•Ooort. -Ibluicisin former timerbeen the piac-: .tice of the Crown, scion's-orb an °erasion, to appoint a., Deputy ;Speaker to the • House they . had , tiow i in the: 'Lord Chief Baronet' the•Courrof Exobeauer and the . Lord ; Chi ef Justice Uf. the -Gorr or King's Bench, an d rumple of sitting by torn., tit- (different times, for his.' Noble and Learned Friend and it•lwas 'within the prerogative of Majesty to( summon a Privy ton n- ! tiller or3sidge to sit among their. Lordships, and! collect their opinion ; and if• their(Lordships)shoold please (not asa matter of right) as -an indillgence,t and, for , their own 'advantage:and oonvsoiessoe, to safer such an individual to 4fficiate astheir Speaker, the aecomtnodatinn would be perfectly right-'and COnstkational. By this arrangement the appellant jurisdiction'would go en 'during 'fire idays week, While his Noble 'and Learned:Friend: idisthargod hid properAuties in , hisaurn-Ccurt ; and •his 'deputy in *House; if required,' might:give an opinion for the! inforotation a their Lordsfaips;abough it was hkely ehat hidisfiide Would ingeneralbeiirnited to metioni of coarse. (1 - therciorei up.figi *muskeg .61 ,the difictiltr they hitd got into` he would ask witetheelberanaaraorskid; *hat othet mode of' getting out? He knew, certainly, that sable had suprosed that the objtot Iloisiit -be at. taisfed . by their. taking.. away itdre business of hi- WY, MK the businos hinitenptcy, from tioe , jurisdietiois of the Court of Chantery. But both 'We most import ant. branchei off the business of. that I Court. Aid their Lordships must see of hose great ins .pprtantejt._was that the titulary care of lunatics should es:s to the very first . Law - Cfificer of the COOrt, who, as *wens pafrie, Was the representative of the King. As to bankruptcy, when thetwisdietipoin casts of bankrupts, was withopt An appeal, he was of opinion that such a power ought to remain with the Lord Chancellar ; but even were it ppssiblc 49 with-. draw the business both of lunatics and bankrupts from the Colin of Chanoety, still his ,Noble Ansi. Learned Friend could never sit five •days .in that : House with justice to his own Court. Neither.could he ever wish-to see the office of their ySpeeker and Chancellor once diVided. He shquld be sorry, on many account's, to see an office of such cligisity.4od: of such antiquity so frittered down; and if even thitre: remained no other fair point of oiection, he weuld i maintain that such a division of office ien_prd bring additional business to the h ouse. ,Fro,nl the` best consideration he had been able to give •to the: subject, and without the least political bias, he must+ distinctly say, that no relief was practicable but byj attending to the recommendations of the Committees, untest their Lordships were prepared to withdraw sill 'Scottish Appeals; but this was a subject on which he believed he had already said enough, and perhaps l too much. .14e had, in addition to the till he be fore had glanced at, to propeke 3t aeries of .Resolu tions, now upon the table of the.Hoese. The,follow ing were the,Resolutious submitted by the Noble Ea 11: , 1. Resolved—That, for the future, .until further order, this House do sit to bear Appeals and Writs of Error live ;lays in, each week during the Session, save on such days, h appointed As aforesaid, over which the House may think fit to adjourn. ' 2. Resisived—That the House do meet on each of the said • days, at the hour of ten o'clock in the forenoon, and do continue sitting on the hearing of causes until the hawk of fear. , Resolved—That three Loris be regained to attend upon each of the said days of hearing Appeals and Writs of Error. , 4. Resolved--That for the better enforcing the attendance of the Lirds two the hearing of Appeals and Writs of Error, the Meuse be called over on the Monday next after the meeting of each Seedon of Parliament, and that notice be taken of such Lords as are absent, as weithose who have, as those who have not, taken their seats. S. Resolved—That the next day after the House is called, the titles of such Lords as have taken their seats be vrritttn an se parate slips of paper, Antrim put in ballotingglasses at the table; Pad that three of the said tides be drawn out by the Clerks, and set -down in rotation as the same are drawn, till all the titles be so drawn out and set down ; and that days be appointed for the attendance of each set of names so drawn, and that the list be printed. .Itesolved—.-That a list of the Lords, as they are appointed to ittetidlh :station, be transmitted to each of the said Lords. 7. Resolved—That the three Lords so set down in rotation do adyeridty ;mild on the days respectively fixed for such their at tendance on the bearing of causes, under a penalty of fifty 02, to be incurred and Paid by any Lord who shall make in that rolliect, unless be shall procure some other Lord to ittie 9 4 l o ve4 teat tbe mid three. Lords be, on the _preeedltfat tbe day anointed for such their attendance, AutriAmmobed fortbat purpose. s. Ilesoived—That such Lords as are unable to serve from pre, icing 70 yews old, or from permanent infirmity, be ex ;used from the lialtot; and that such Lords• as are unable to tier* frau 11l health of domestic affliction, or for other special houses, to be consented to by the House , be excused for their ab hence on the day appointed for such their attendance. . 4. Ilmolved—That the stsufdlog.Orthr, N 0.154, be considered, in order to the same being amended. The Earl of LIVERPOOL then moved, that the aforementioned _Bill should be read a second time on Monday neat; the Resolutions to be considered in con nection with the Bill. The motion was Alva agreed to, and their Lord ships were ordered to be summoned for Monday nett. The Earl of CARNARVON said hebad long been df opinion, that -the appellant jurisdiction of that ouse was most. absurd, for the circumstance of ap pealllseingraaele.fkorn the Judge in one Court to the heateludge in that Hoisse, went to do away the effect tof appeah altogether. He strongly objected to. the hroPonition -Ileorsto attend th ereon the earing of appeals, who would only add to the ridi. IM-eady- belonging to such proceedifsgs. He, - therefore,. should never give his consent to any such •prOpOsititates this ; and to appoint other Judges to sit in:that House would be an act of injustice. He hoped, then , _ there would be no compulsion to bring , Peers into that - House ; and as to other Judges, he, as a Peer; Would never submit to the dictation of any man who was net a Member of that House—(Liar). - The-Earl of -ROSSLYN observed, that when the :Chancellor happened to be absent, any Judge ap• pointed to sit inhis Place would have the sarnejuris diction as the Lord Chancellor. Therefore he could not agree in the statement Of his Noble Friend who had just; spoken.. • Suppose -ouly two or. three Lotift' sat during the hearing of a case, and that they were . dot acquainted*With the law, trust not the decision be kft to the jtidgment :of those Judges who presided ? Thole :Judges mere not • toti.ve more .direction; than were usually in other cases ; and the only al teratierfthatikveniflUd be now made by the arrangement proposed, as had existed on all former occa sions, when the Great Seal wns Placed in other hands, in-ease of thefiliancellor's absence-from illness. As to whether the House should declare it elf incompe-: terit tothe appellant ijtuisdiction, was a:questiou he , would not-eater into ; but nothing was now.proposed that Was not copsistent With former usages. -If the 'House rejected its appellant. jurisdictiob, it would be. ,uiikt . for Any. otherijurisslictions; it should never abandon its right 'is?..theuppellant.jurisdiction over Secitleod: • (Kouse i lrad not the right to renounce (bat jtirisdlttlon. :Ant • Meile t iP:itOclictisin England ; and, in theoty,•tbeliouge was supposed to .be perfbetly acquainted with the law of Scotland, and had a right-to decide en that : . There were many Stetib Ilserr: in th 4 House, a!nl about sixty Peers Who were coonected • with property in Scotland; therefore, the appellant jurisdiction of Scotland' ought not to . be abandoned. It must not be imputed On% that thiswat a new tribunal ; for there was no novelty in it, sxcept that of requiring Lotds, • under penalties, togirea compulsory attendassee ; and he Was sure, if patties were to ore there for Justice, ttldre Q. 44 to ;010 piaspry*tezidAuce of Peers. . The E ar.cf:C . ARNAK VC1111,14 oplamation, said,' that if the compulsory clause. *eras mauled to the ' , Aileen *eta P'bers,,much Of hiiobjection to the Bill Art:add be teMoved. • • • The Jiiill Was then read .a first, and -cOgrefl to bq seacia:seetind time on hlonday.twat. ;.• The Other - Bills on the • table , were reinllin:angt • stages; and at Half-past Seven the House adjourned.. lIO,USR OF COIINiOIB. colonel WOOD presented a Petiticin from Llangoll en am s he no el the tible. praying for the gradual Abolition of Sla very._ .Lsid Alt. Aldernian WOOL) presented a Petition from th e p,, t , of SO Pancras against the Gas Light. Eatanshmentßall.-44 on the table. Mr. Alderman C. S3IITII presented a Petition from St. i t i. b ee% proying fee she Rodemiessof 460 Dorm ifthesiwi lemk —Ordered to be printed. The Post Flom Duty BM, and the Prison Reetei at h e , o ft , went through a •Oommitteemsskepost mossmemer.• ' l4 , The Pons Stith:imam All was oftlered to be con • . day three months. •The rAteltekuerillilb •Sillains.rond Ilmlead tinstoto t t • tar bemsentnitted homeroom% The meteheated 4itmin fial was mid issesast,g raeola ordered to be committed to-snessuese. The Have wept into a ewewnittee masse •Leteae r g um& sinners' Salaries sad Ailowswersest-tkpori to.morrow ""'" i s h . 0 ggA r t 6 islOßE._gave nodce, that he would them e* present a Petition front Morns Olive 4 that she may be heard by her Agent at the Bar Of the ypie4, in support of her claim. Mr. CI.7II.frEIS presented o Petition from tr Re p t iow . ,iu Susses, complaining of Agricultural DiStress. Laid on tisetok. On the motion of Mr. lc. Doomss, rt Return was &dew et -thequantity uf•fagirits distilled, and the leantity seized h a landefor tbe yeats Viet, 1322, and Is 2. :Mr: Obit TgNAY stated, that in consequenc e et as' a i.- .rangensent wish the East India Company, soldiers andialw . letters would be brought borne to this country free ofehtrge4 4 l abe futpre, by which means they would be gent to any Rat et the ;kited Kingdom for the postage of one penny. Mr. BROUGHAM presented a PetitiOnfrom a p auper& llSltte et Gaorge Rowell, of the °minty of Kerry. Ireland, - plaining that he bad been dismissed from.his sits-niacin aka & Ow, theongh the machittatiotts of his •sor.cosior, supp a n e d . 6 . bribery and perjury. The Petitioner went en to th 4ree ag a r two Member, of the Honourable House with cottopt ra o se . The Hon. Menthe, (Mr. Brougham) stated that behov e a • of the Petitioner or the allegations of .the Petition. It ales 11f the House to deal with the Petition as they thought prom ee l It was of course understood that any person making *net against 'any Member of that Hoene, did sear his awn Mb. Colonel CROSBY repelled the insinuations contained/a fist Petition. He assured the House that he had never nsvivedi shilling for any public appointment it bad been in his paw n t , make„and be 'pledged himself to take means to obtain lychees. Mr. CROKE!: assured the house that whatever part Lein( taken in behalf of the individual complained of by itti a d . dosser., had not been at the suggestion of the lion. Membe; w bad just sat down. Mr. WY NN apprehended that the House Mold not tight a Petition like this, containing charges against Members of tio House, each of which was indictable in the Courts below. Mr. YIROUGH A 111 thought the best way would he tow*. draw the Petition, and leave the Petitioner to press ha big "presented nest Session to the House, should he persist is gape so, with the foreknowledge that the Hon. Member hedges*. dieted his assertions, and of the consequences attmdusteniii perseverance.—The Petition was then withdrawn. Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH gave notice of a sootier lir Thursday next respecting the Instructions given to Sir Willa A'Court, for the guidance of hia conduct under any amen d e Cortes of Spain might make in the internal Administration if is Onvernmentof that country. ADMINISTRATION Of .1113TICZ IN tity,ann. ' Mr. BROUGHAM then rose to bring &ward his motion for referring the - Petition of the Catholics ti Ireland, which he presented to the House last night, complaining of the unequal administration of law to the Catholics and Protestants of Ireland; and here he was placed in a situatioa of considerable difficalty, inasmuch as the Petitioners, although they complained generally, pointed out no particular instance of a hidt they had to complain. They said, however, that the law was in itself enequal, and this evil was aggra vated by a partial administration of it; and, indeed, it was impossible that the law should be equally administered, where, in itself, it made a distilleda of sects. In England all sects were equal, all ate were considered as brothers, and the King as the father of all his subjects. In Ireland it was not to: In that country brother was set against brother; and that worst of all animosities, religious differ ences and distinctions—differences and distinctions the most mischievous, prevailed. This formed a sae which had been kept rankling in the minds of the Irish; and, as long as that distinction of sects was kept up, dissathfacticas must continue to exist; in* much at it•deciared, this doctrine, that the law sant respecter of persons; and whilst this system was kept up the law could not be equally administered to they Protestant who was • protected, and to the Secua rian who was of the prosctibed cast. He must air descend to some particulars of his case, it be i ng always understood, tlsat be was ready to suppert s ll evidence at the Bar all the statements he was abet* to make; end frst he would begin with the local Magistrates. The Honourable Gentleman proceeded a. comment upon the mode whi7Ch was pursued by' the local Magistrates in Ireland a • and observed th em . was nothing like it to be seen in England. The ,pW sons Who were appointed to serve the office 'of Ma gistrates in Ireland were .certainly not made of sepli stuff as toglish Magistrates were. The Hen. ber then proceeded to cite several instances of f ' bi t . ' adniinistration on the part of the Magistrates, lad' . tlse opinions of thelLish Judges 'on the subje4, enr cially.ahat At She. Learned .lodge kietcbei; Ifiait In one iof - his charges, •says-- 4 ' his saScieni for a wit- . nest to thew his colours to decide tiltedier his testi mony should be credited Or not; or for a titiOtrer indicted for murder to . .shew his badge to pr i t aid kic himself a verdict .of manslaughter." That•• Judge, also, •in another of his charges, warmly re commended that .Orane Societies should be ow . pressed, .declaring that at present nabs in aP ° ..q of Justice were disregarded and made subsetsleat 10 : other oaths. He:the:el - rite called for an end to be put to these Societies, and declared, tha t t till ibis was donethere would tocno peace in !Tels49- iF 9 ' was Judge Fletcher's opinion, and it ought a 9 •4r. acted upon. He also contended. that the Massmrsel s ta h k o e u n ld p b la e c purifiedplace. s 0 ;, i i t io w w as w s a a s i . d it tha th t a p t u rsiuficc:ttonnrilta as i Sir Harcourt Lees and Major Sirr were 'tti . r 3, . tained in the . Commission? That filajorPrt• Asha, by a verdict of a Jury had been found guilty o f gross tyranny a r nd oti o c p e pr i e n ssi D on u , tl s i t n ill_•w_ c as mer cos:iatalAtH# He must here .state the opinion, of Lw4 g , a . • I as given in one of hisspetChea delivered in 1 1 ~___ place, in which he said.that he hadlOng iiIIOWP . Iry itiufOW .land, and been intimately connected wi th .W. years, arrd he !at/tented ' to say, ahat•there Mal l's"' dlitt ill-fated Q n for hg poor , couLhtrytwci both 9f wtic sorts . oii j;vereci.e a:, one c fol i t te rich, ant _ ill administered. He was prepared nashew.th*lllP! Lord Itedesdale.had said waswell fosadtd; Wig?! .thil,. it was scarcelyatecessary to do snore lhatt v . state the maroper in which Juries were ap , ~,!. Ireland. • To do this hs wauld , refeethe II 'se , 71`, rev evidence of Mr. Dillon Macnaosaara, a •Solidif l'Z' ,was examined at the bar. The Hentonrable glia ll :, e th v e id n e p n r c o e c , e s ed iv e e d n t o o n te th a e d i a nci p u it ir t;Of iat M o 'Mr. 1:41!; 1 4 11 '1" . ci.