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I CO: 1 reai for Int( I of ant p Ol Po for: 1 Mtt of t Vic WI Di' Oc Pe the and aid Deli GS 1 ere can ei:p rise of 1 Th the; Old it Dit Dit Dit a She Dit Ma Diu Lilt Jliu Diu Dit Cin WQ Old Dit Old Fin Wi Sal Mf DI ie ran ke In en' lie 3111 Nle 4111 st, eel La of off PCI ire the to rD re pit ea rnl an ire in' 3$ ph Si pr is Tt so re co en to it' 1:4 IN TRACTS FOR RUM,.SIIGAR, AND COCOA. VICTUAI.LING OFFICE, Atwood 6, 1641. luE C'UMMISSIONEiiS for VICTUAL , ILING Ms MAJESTY'S NAVY, le. dok , Six yore, That on Turmas, the tell Instant, they will be roi ly to receive Tenders in writing (sealed up), and treat for t h e s upply of the following Articles, to be delivered Into his Majesty's Victualling Stores at Deptford, vie. LittICLS. QUANTITY. PURIM OW DILLITINY. I One half of each Ram .............. 100 , 000 Gallons by the Sth of Sept. Sugar • ••• • " .... 100 Tons next, and the re- Cocoa .............. 50 Tons malnder bytbe 2511 s of that month. s a mples of the Cocoa must be produced by the person . eh d e ring, but that for Sugar, together with the Cionditions of the Contracts may be seen at this Office. Each Tender must specify the price in words at length, and be delivered before One o'Clock on the Day ap pointed; and the Person who makes the Tender, or some Peron on his behalf, must attend to answer when called N. WALLER CLIFTON. f Or. .....Namm a•••••,, WHEAT, OATMEAL, AND PEAS. VICTUALLING -OFFICE, Bra AUGUST, 1831. THE COMMISSIONERS for VICTUAL LING his MAJESTY'S. NAVY, &e. do hereby give notice, That on Monday the 16th inst. they will be ready to re. ,ire Tenders in writing (sealed up,) and treat for the sepply of the following Articles, to be delivered Into his m a j es ty, Victualling Stores at Deptford, viz. earsor.s. QUANTITY. 'IMOD or DZLIVANY. 2,i One half thereof ... 500 Quirtrat by the 25dt Instant, .. 500 Quarters e and the rentaioda by sth Sept. neat. One half of each _ Wheat, Red Ditto White Oatmeal ..• Peas .. by the sth Sept. 50 Tons next, and the re -500 Quarters mainder by the Sfath of that month. Samples of each of the above mentioned Articles must b. produced by the party tendering; and the Conditions of the Con tracts may be seen at this Office. Each T,•nder must specify the price, in words at length, and be delivered before One o'Clock on the day appointed ; ,rd the Person who makes the Tender, or some person on his behalf, must attend to answer when called for. M. W.4LLBR CLIFTON. GENUINE ►►'INES, &c. OF SUPERIOR QUALITY. AT REDUCED PRICES. TAYLER & Co. Importers of Wines, Spirits, &c. No. 80, Mary-le-bone-lane, Oxford-street, in usuequence of their connexions in Oporto and Bourdesux, are enabled to supply the public with WINES of the finest quality at the wholesale prices. For the genuineness and ..perior quality of their Wines and Spirits, they are sutho. rived to give reference to the Editors of the Monthly Gazette 11'i-tidied Medicine, who have examined their stock They have pleasure in laying the following Priced List of tber ►Vises, &c. bettee the public : PRICED LIST OF WINES. per dos. 02 Port, from the wood, per doz. Ditto, Lafitte and iu bottles ... 265. to 30 Ditto, 2 years in bottle 36 Ditto, 3 years in bottle 42 Ditto, 5 years in bottle ' red upwards ...Us. & 54 Sherry, brown 30s. to 42 Ditto, pale ... 368. to 42 Ditto, real Amontillado Chateau Margeau 631. to 72 Bargee 56 Sauterne ... .. 56 Teneriffe 365. to 49 Vidonia 42 Encabo, (very fine) .. 42 Lisbon .. 361. to 42 Mountain 365. to 42 Carcavella 50 1 3lalmsey Madeira (pints) 30 r Tints Madeira .. (pints) 25 Fine I ild Tent .. 50 Cape Madeira 181.235. &24 Pontic .. 24 Vin de Grave 65 Moselle 50a. to 60 Old Hock 721. to 24 Hermitage ... .. 84 Eiergundi . . 725. to 84 LI TS. Anil East India Ma..cira. (direct)... 96 Ditto, (West India) .. 434 Dino, (East India) ... S 4 Sercial 48 Ditto, Tints 48 Marsala .. 23 Ditto, Broad ... 30s. to 36 Champagne ..... 60s. to 84 Claret, St. Eatiphe and La Rose .. 42e. to 48 SPII Per Pl. Cognac Brandy ... 28s. to 30 Old ditto, superior .. 32 Ditto (White Champagne)96 Old Jamaica Rum 14s. to 18 Fine Orange Shrub ... 14 I Noyeau, Maraschino, Curacoa, Parfait Amour, Cherry Brandy, in cases or otherwise. Wines at the Docks, in Pipes, Hogsheads, and Quarter. Casks, regulated by the London Price Current. Liperior Herefordshire Perry and Cyder—Barclay's B..ntled Stout, and Scotch Ales, from 7s. to Bs. Per gal. &hedam llamas ... 28 English Glin, of superior flay. & qusl. Bs. es. 10 & 11 Fine Cordial Gin .. 12 The Marsala Wine is a very wholesome, pleasant light Wine for Summer, and for dyspeptic persons, superior to sherry. DR. JAMES'S FEVER POWDER AND ANALEP. TIC PILLS. THE FEVER POWDER is universally ap proved by the Profession and the Public—and is ad. ministered with equal success in Fever, lniammatory Disea.es, Measles, Pleurisy, Bore Throats, Rheumatism, V. When given in Colds, Catarrhs, &c. it is generally t.,01d to check their progress, or shorten their duration.— in Nelms, 21. 9.1. and Us. THE ANALRPTIC PILLS, from their influence in exciting the natural secretions .are an excellent Alterative 'tented) in Chronic Biaeaties, Rheumatism, habitual Febrile and Gouty Affections, Indigestion, Bilious and other Coin. plaints of the Stomach and Rowels.—ln Boxe•., at 4s. Od. .1:14 21e. Sold by 3lessrs. Duda, Chemists, Cheapside, corner of M. Paul's, London, and the principal Druggists and Books tellers. 1 Observe the Signature of: ,R. G. 04 JAMES on the Label. The Public are requested to be cautious in the Purchase of these Medicines, as spurious preparations are continually offered fot sale. NATURE is a Mysterious Treasury. 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Paternoster row; and Chapple, 29, Pall mall; Onwyo„ Catherine. street, Strand, London; Sutherland, No. 9,•Calton-strect, Edinburgh; Porter, 72, •Gratton•street, Dublin; and of II Booiseliers,—(Pries Si.) • Remedies can. he lotrauled So loy.llM l _,__ l .• he _. llF t „ r ,L ci k Patien ts wr i t i ng f ur the same w ij i please to .itssr.l9lo Note. Attendance at home for consultation se usual. • GOSS and Co, bLit•C••Surgephsi No. i l ea Botteerie• strest, Fleet -avast, London. N°. 13,861. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Atm. 13. At about half-past twelve o'clock the SPEAKER took his seat. Mr. ROSS rose to present a petition, numerously and respectably signed, from some part of Scotland, com plaining of the loss of so much of the time of this house by the frivolous and vexatious opposition to the progress of the bill. The SPEAKER put it to the honourable member, whe. thee he did not perceive that enough of the petition had been mated. to show that it ought not to be presented to the house. (Hear.) He put it to the house, once fur all, whe ther It would not be better for hon. members to refrain from 'll=2to resat petitions which contained language 1 net be sold in this bone: Lit. lON twiatntad to with4taw the petition, Ample& that being but a young member be thought it was his to lay it before the house. The kpm member then a petition from the gentry. ship owners, af Bangor, and Cantavene, praying the house to aveaLlibs duties of marine inaurasele.--Ordered to lie On dial MYs and to be printed. Mr. CHOICER referred to two letters which be had ad verted to last evening in the discussion respecting Belgium and Holland, and stated that &misunderstanding was abroad as to the sources from whence he derived the contents of those letters. He begged to state, that one of them be saw in the Standard, and the other in the Morning Pod. He mentioned this, because as every thing in this house ob tained great publicity, it was desirable that no mis.state ments should be made out of doors. Mr. O'CONNELL admitted that every thing relating to Hoeard was correctly reported, but the affhirs relating to Ireland did not obtain equal publicity. Mr. HUNT observed that a journal that had been seve ral times mentioned by the right hon. gentleman, (Mr. Croker), last evening, had to-day returned the compliment, by giving the right hon. gentleman credit for fairness, can. dour, and " all that sort of thing." The petition was ordered to be printed. Mr. HUNT rose to present a petition from the township of Sutton, iu the county of Chester, against the Corn Laws. The honourable member said it was one of three petitions which It was his intention to have presented last night, but upon presenting one of them it was rejected. He obould not read this petition, but leave any improper lanm s if any there was, to be picked out by the noble lord op ite (Lord Althorp) or the hon. member for Oxford (Sir R. Inglis.) His own opinion was that the petition was re spectfully worded. It was strong language, but not offensive. Sir R. INGLIS begged to say, it was the duty of every member who intended to present a petition to be able to sa. tidy himself and to satisfy the house, if necessary; that there was nothing unbecoming in Its language. After a few words from Lord Althorp, Mr. D. W. Har vey, and Sir C. Burrell, the petition was read, and ordered to lie on the table. Mr. HUNT then presented a petition from two parishes in 3lanchester to the same effect. It was ordered to lie on the table. Mr. HUNT said, if the question of the corn laws was not settled by the motion which it was his intention to seb mit to the house upon the subject, he should immedletery, the day after, bring the matter before the house in another shape. He saw the di/position of the house was such, that his motion would be lost by a large majority. A large majority of that house consisted of extensive landowners, who thought the question of keeping up their rents de pended upon It. (Cries of No.) That, at any rate, wail his opinion on the subject. The honourabti member for Wiltshire had said that wages would then be reduced. His (Mr. Hunt's) opinion was very different ; and while he had petitions to present be would do so independently of the lion. member or his opinions. He held in his hand the original petition from the county of Wilts in 1815, signed by 21,000 individuals. when that bill had passed the Commons, appealing to the House of Lords to protect them from the rapacity of she Commons. It had now been brought back to him, and after laying for • certain time in the musty eel lars of the house, was sold :o bins for half a ezown as • cu riosity.—The petition was ordered to be printed. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the beer. venders of Gloucester, praying that they might not be inter rupted in their trade; also a petition from the inhabitant householders of that place in favour of the B:er Bill. Mr. Al OST Y N presented a petition from the High She , riff and Grand Jury of the county of Flint, against the use of mnlse•es in distilleries and breweries. Mr. COURTENAY moved for a return of all pensions, subsisting in Scotland and Ireland in November, 1830, stating their amount and the time when they were granted , After a few words from Mr. HUNT, Mr. JAMES wished to make a few observations respect. ing the arrangements for the ensuing coronation. That ce remonial, he understood, had already been agreed upon; and he wished to know from his Majesty's ministers what sum of money government intended to expend upon it. He trusted he would be excused for stating that it would, in his opinion, have been much more proper, much more parlia mentary, and much more constitutional, that government, ' before fixing upon the ceremonial, had come down to that house, and eoqiiired of the representatives of the people ! whether it was their wish to go into the expense that would attend on the coronation. (Cries of ". Oh, oh.") If hon. members differed in opinion from him, they would have an opportunity of stating it. He had heard it was intended to spend 50.0001. on that ceremony; and if that were the proposal the country might expect that the real cost would not he less than 120,0001. He recollected that the original grant for a former coronation was 100,0001. and the total expense amounted to nu less a sum than nearly one quarter of a million, the exact suns being 238,0001. The hire of the jewels alone for putting into the crown, cost the country G;eoiXll. and they were kept fur four years at an annual tapes'', of ten per cent. charged by linen.. ituntlell and Bridge. Now lie, for one, would say that there was no necessity for a comeatioo at all--(hear, hear)—unless it were to afford hie Illajepty an opportunity, as tie hail heard it stated, of creating fifty or one hundred new peent,-Iu order to pass the Returns Bill—(loud_ cries of hear, tear)—and thou he should nut object to it. But his Majesty had now full possession of die throne—lie had taken the oaths, and no additional security or sanction was required to insure tbo discharge of his important function,. In ancient timessuch a ceremonial might have been neueseery as a solemn compact between the Inestarch and his people.. But those days bad. pursed away, and no such ceremony was now requisite.— Be believed his Majesty did not wish that any such costly; ceremony should take place. His present Majesty was sot like the late .Kitee, fond of nothing but show. (boud cries of No, no.) nne felt sorry to indulge in any language with respect to the lace KiNg which was nut approved of by the house, but it war a matter of bietoty that his late Majesty was so. He had so good an opinion of the sense and.stiong mind of his present Majesty, as to feel certain that pomp and display was what he disliked. By his con duct en the reform bill he had ensured the love and affection of his subjcede and he thought he might justly say of his Majesty, as had been said of Alfred, that he had secured • reputation which would never decay,. while there was an English heart to feel, or an English tongue to speak his praise. He could not bring himself to believe but that hi. Majesty had too much sympathy for his people to put them to expense iri an empty pageant. He thought, therefore, hie Majesty's Al inieters were not altogether tineorthy of ame in luoing advieed a Coronajon.ut the present s.ate of the country. He would not say any thing fuoher, but merely conclude by asking what suds of money it was proposed to expend at the peewit Coronation. He thought $f hi s M a . jut y a ministers bad conic tu ehat house, and sliced for the money, it would have been much more constitutional, than afterwards calling on the country to pay the debt. • Lord ALTHORP said that it would have been uncan atitntional to have taken die espinies of the hone* upon the' !um to be expeoded, as 'hitt. pap enc. of the prerogatie.s of the crown. (Hear.) The hon. gentleman had also said the' ' • coronation ought not to aka place, the King having taken the oaths; in that fact the lion. 'member was mistaken ; the King bad not Mien the auhs which by the act of Pella. ment were fired to be taken at the sorseation, and it eras: therehrs essentially necessary that that Important ceremony should take place. With regard to the steam of the etwonstion. be (Lord Althorp) kgried with thehon . .menliter; that the hire of the jewels was ostsomely eatravagant. At the present moment it was impossible fork* to give any definitive answer to the boa. member, bat - this* be would say, that he was perfectly satisfied that KS aopetwe of the iworeet aormsadon would not be mote shad one Mh of the 'spume of the last. (Hear.) He trusted that information _ , weld be stibleuteri to the tau Mr. JAMKS having recsir doe, ' aebdtee. to beet lapin he Wu Wit s►. isc sard furiol4lo Ilia PI A ithatLi I die boas.- now encumbered it. (Crles of hear, and ob i) Mr. HUNT said be coalition no wombat In diet %luso who were the representatives et the people exempt the beel. Sleighs: fire Preston (Mr. Jobe Wood) and hit sett' (Loud lirefOter.) With respect to the Coronation, be melt not 101111theirre, that when the hoe. member fo r Carlisle (Mi. W, Japisid was blaming the late King for hitextrampner . he, t olled to order; but when he praised the pens* Leg nothing of that kind took place. He wished tit their' whsellsethe present King was not as much attaeheitto the \Valves eiataistration, when It was in existence, as be "ahoy to the present administration. Sir H. HA RDI NOE would not say whether his Fagot 'Majesty was more o r les s a tt a ch e d t o the late or present ad ministration ; but he begged to observe, in answer to the ob servations made by an hon. member (Mr. GiUon) that such pert and flippant remarks would always meet with his most enter contempt. (Cheers from the-opposition.) He was as much an independent member of gbh house now, that be sat for what is called a nomination borough, as he was when be sat for the city of Durham. The !kismet. of CH A NDOS wished to know what was the intention of his Majesty's Ministers with regard to th' sitting of the house at the time . eflhe Coronation, and with. tber there was to be any, and whit, adjournment. (Huse, bear, hear.) If answering the question Ras at mast inconvenient to the noble lord (Althorp) be should let press it. Lord ALTHORP said it was impossible for him at the vomit moment to answer that question. Mr. O'CONNELL. hoped, that by that period the heMM ., would have arrived at the Irish nig" hill, and thaft that would be as little delay as possible: immix JILL. The House then resolved itself into a committee ow the SAM bill. Mr. Bs in the Chair. The CHAIRMAN then rose to put the first question. those 18, that the following counties return three member, each, vie. Berkshire, Buthinghamshire, Cambridgeshire, Dorsetshire, and Herefordshire. Mr. BANKES said he did not intend to propose an ad ditional member for the county with which he was connected (Dorsetsbire) ; any boon that was offered he would accept ; but at the same time that he accepted it he could not refrain which from making a few observations upon th e pried* which had actuated his Majesty's Ministers le granting foie . bars for the county of Cumberialid. whilst* *l' - three to the county of Dorset. The hon. member ' that from lists of the population , and of the tempeund houses in each of the counties, and in ach of the represented and unrepresented places in those counties. it was clear that al though Cumberland contained rather mote persons, still in point of wealth, in the number of the lel. houses, and even of those above 401. a-year, the county of Dorset had coital. derably the preAminece. The house would be sWprised to tarn those facts, and then to see that it was only intended to give Dorsetshire three members, while a county inferior . in importance and wealth was allowed four members. Datt.l 'net was, in fact, the only county that made out a case of Facts injustice; even according to the principles which had been lard down by his Majesty's Ministers. (Hear.) He was aware that there might be some difficulties ; but he did not, standing on the side of the house on which he stood, fleet himself under the necessity of always prelvidhiga remedy foe the evils that might present themselves in the course of this debate. It was for those whovere aptvulating in the introduction of the plans to propose remakes necessary for subverting the ills which without those remedies would na turally arise. Sit J. GRAHAM did not think the hon. gentleman bad acted fairly in selecting Cumberland on the present occasion, to maks i contrast with the itate of Dorsetthirs. lie, heir ever, did not think the hem. member was actuated by invi dious motives in his selection, although he had made some, , painful refiectione on his Majesty ' s ministers, which would I have amounted, if expressed in plainer teems, to a broad charge of partiality. The reason why the hon. gentlemen had compared Cumberland with Dorset probably was that Deism was the larger county to which three members wire to be given, and Cumberland the smallest to width Crmembers were proposed to be given. The boo. gentle. inn bad not stated the case so fairly as lie might have done, The population be had given was undoubtedly course'; but be lad omitted to state what were the number of iginbees N be returned from the counties respectively. (Hear.) It would appear that Cumberland, under the proposed measure,. would return eight. and the county of Dorset eleven,' even after the alteration of four members for the ~eery. . of Cumberland, and three for the county of Done. 10 this way Cumberland will return only one member kir 19,000 inhabitants, and Dorset one for every Iltal Si-- (Loud cheers.) It would be impossible fee elibllksalmw able member to deny this abort strewing, end id .(11k James) was confident that it would relieve the I from any charge, directly or inditectly, of partiality tame Cumberland. Mr. BANKES regretted that the right hon. vademeg bed taken no notice whatever of one part of his (11r.BsehWn) ' onnement, namely, that which relined to the comparative wealth of tits two counties. Colonel SIBTHORPE said, as be bad been alluded to ley' the Right Hon. Genleman opposite as being a good driest * , be congratulated Ishinelf that he was not .he driver!! die leader of his Majesty's Ministers — if he were he theitit drive them in a different war to the one they Were taking., Had he uuly the whip hand of them, though he was sure Piney would form an extremely awkward team, yet lie should Use his utmost awls in turning them into a different road than the one they were taking. ( Much laughter.) He felt it his duty, without any sort of delicary, broadly to charge' his Majesty's Minima's with having acted 'partially. Tire Gallant Colonel then made an obse r vation which could net beheard, complaining of a niter:presentation by the press of what he had stated last nigh! Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS was sick of hearing of ski giving of members to this and to that county talked we as a boon. The object of the house ought to be, to consider how the representation could be made in the most convenient, and proper way. Wets he heard hon. and right limn gen. denten opposite talk of this county having eleven members, 4 auuther tee, another eigh sod so on, he could not bete l turning his attention ta.Ws, where , in many parts, there seas only our 'Member Tel . 10i - a whole county. This, however, was - not the' l ltiiy ' ' diedel the representation In such a manner is to be:eery satisfactory to people hereafter, Looking at ~h , p o p i apoi l er semelly, he Oweght, hie 1145. 4 jesty'swaintatere - witildirog email more wisely in ' givht, a second inentber to some Of 'the Welch counties, rather then„ thrustity a third or iforuth•nreuther wow, of the Engliels' (Aunties',' which were alesady•very well represented lb Par-' Liman. . . Mr. STUART WORTIAIf said the claims of Scotland to an additiOnil repteeltuaddh Were very strong. But ash,' thought those claims might more efficiently be urged under a subsequent part of the bill, he would reserve his argu. meats in its favour till that part of the bill came before the committee. As to one part of the arrangements contained in the clause under consideration, he would observe, if. the house proceeded by the role of population, the only jest way of distributing population in the counties, was to de. duet from them that portion of population in the repreven tattoo already provided far. Upon this principle, u well as ■ppaass thweest of wealth derived from the amount of the 101.Lotteeboldere, Buckingham had a stronger claim than Dona to the privileges held out by the clause. Mr. UILWN thought it desirable that some additional Scotland, and that might be of its present representatives. the Chancellor- of the Imeht. eras gives to Scotland, be. cometty rr. . pe rie hem se. this tilauleinestati, ftput so iNDOS wished 'to tee the Welsh A inertial* awl onmonleadlhorm. die third Members of minden atta &Mend and' Wiles. He eon: represented tlfi feelings of the peo ple county 4. Buckingham more truly than the borough of Ovsed Aliziow did, and he could not see why It was not entitled to hens two members as well as the borough ref Wycombe. PAt bensidered that ministers were doing no good by giving the county of Buikingham three mem bers, which be firmly believed would be the means of creating continual contests, and would prevent the real opinion of the freeholders being known. He objected, therefore, to the grant of his Majesty's Ministers to Buckingham of an ad &dead member, and trusted that the Noble Lord (John Russell) would give additional members to Wales and *inland. He thought that the present members for Buck- Intssufficiently represented the county. o m rd ALT HORP observed-that With respect to the present clausehe conddeted the noblelord was roguing against blaisslL It *is &Scat to say what was the amount of reprosen. 'tattoo that able& bit allotted to different counties. Bak "the members for boroughs, under the present bill, would be more likely to represent the interests of the counties than under the system of representation now existing. In ere. ranging the number of count members, Government bad taken their interests into tion separately from those of boroughs. He (Lord Althorp) did not lay much stress on the cases brought forward, nor, indeed, could he see how the consequences referred to by the noble lord would result from the present measure. The Marquis of CHANDOS felt no doubt of its having the effect he had stated, and briefly observed, that sooner that enter into any collision with respect to Bucks, be would give up his own seat. Mr. RICRFORD protested against any diminution of the members for Bucks. On the 'question that two members be given to the county of Glamorgan, Lord 11." SOMERSET said, that the increase In the population, in the industry, the wealth, and intelligence of the people of Glamorgan, was such as entitled them to have an additional Member. He should support the motion. Mr. PRAED, in rising to move a matter of which he bad given notice, thanked the noble lord foe having post poned to this day the consideration of one of the clauses of the Reform sill to which his motion would more particu larly apply. His object was to render the representation as perfect as possible—not to leave it the representation of the majority only—of a part though the greater part—but to make it the representation of the whole.—His motion would, therefore, be, that wherever the Bill gave three r Members for counties, each person forming a part of the constituent belly wooed - 04y beonoirea to vett' he two out of those three puma: He intended to move that, 'where the right of representation gave three members, each voter should have only two votes; and he did this for the sake of insuring to the minority one representative-- a consequence that would not be effected till the majority should have more than doable the minority ; because it would not be till then that the majority would have the power of returning the third member; while, in .he event of the majority not being much mote numerous than the minority, the latter would be sere of having their opinions represented in that bodge. The hon. gentleman then went through a very long series of the evils which his mind en abled him to totems as likely to arise from the passing of the reform bill. He did not intend to divide the committee on this amendment at the present time, but should take another opportunfty - of so doing. Lord A LTHORP thought that nothing but extreme cues could support the amendment of the hon. gentleman ; and radically, he thought such eases never would arise ; for he believed that even in America there bid never been a Congress without a minority in it. The amendment was then withdrawn, and the clause agreed to Lord ALTHORP said, that as the hour was then neer at band when it Was understood that the house would adjourn, he should, before he sat down, move that the Chairman re port program, and ask leave to sit again; previous to which, bowevet he would beg te call the attention of the house to some alterations in the bill, which his noble friend, not then in his place, to whom the care of the billwas confided, intended to propose. The first clause to which an amendment would be moved, was the 16th that which gave the right of voting In counties. in addition to the freeholders, it was intended that leaseholders of 501. per annum for seven years should have a vote. and also thou for 101. holding leases forte° years. The house, he trusted, would see that the alterations were not alterations of principle, but on the contrary, would have the effect of advaating tit :glut principle which it was the object of the bill to establish. Some doubt arose re specting the inkrpretation of the bill as it stood at present as to one point, namely, whether leaseholders were requiszd to have a legal lease, or merely an equitable right, as in the case of irseholden ; for, as wu known to hon. members, a freeholder need not have what was called the legal estate vested in him—it was quite sufliclent that he possessed an equitable title. lo tiro Eld line of the same clause it was also intended to introdoee an alteration, the objet of which was to place leaseholders under copyholders spas the same footing that' those leaseholders would stand if they held AVM freeholders, and that an equitable right should be valid in this ease as well as in .he other. The 91st clans, related to right of voting in boroughs. That clause, as it stood at present, was altered intwedia•tly after discovery was made of the error that had been coin. mitted respecting quantify and haltlearly payments by' householders. The clause, in its present form, gave the right of voting to householders whose rents were payable not oftener then once every crater ; but further inquiry had I convinced them that the clause would have the affect of die franchising many very worthy to possess votes. It was 33- certained that many persons who paid monthly, and even weekly, were not of that disreputable description which the framers of the bill had at first supposed ; for example, at Manchester, and other great manufacturing places, there were several very respectable persons who paid • their rents oftener than quarterly, but who wete, nevertheless, yearly occupiers, but who paid their ren:s weekly for• the convenience of their landlord, rather than for his se curity. All tenants plying weekly, must. of course, have occupied their houses 'for a pined of twelve months' antecedent to the time of registration. Thus .it •would be teen that the effect of the'clsuse would be, to entree. clam all weekly tenants, merely postpohtns the enfralehisor ment uhtil'a - yeat had pissed from ,he conanencemeot of their occupancy. There was inothte'poira 'open which it was proposed to make all alteration, namely, that persons claiming to vote as houleholders of 101. on the pound that they pshl ten to that MiroUtit, should show that they were not in irlth their lindllrff; but wheat they claimed as Implebaders, being rated to ate poor's vat or the land. tax above the value of 101. then It was thought to bean un necessary interference in men's private concerns, to inquire whether they had paid their rent or not; it would becomes', ihatthey had' paid'their taxes. A list of tile persons rated above thevalwe Of 101. would 'be delivered in by theover- . . _.., ' *. •. ... 7-1. 7 1s• ':- T„:•: . • • . 1 . . '' . \\ \ ‘ i . l l ;',/ • I . I lIIU 1 )t • • ~,,.,,,.., _ : ..7.7.. • ' • •1 % "'. ----- S- 1 3.A . .••• ; - • ',- ..,i 'f • • • , "".. ' , NI , le : Oh 11) '( Il ._ •• .. ~../„!,,, ,‘• - :'' . o '. 4 1 .J0r x cr kto •• 1 1 • : 2, 2c . i l --- it - i. 4vDisT 0 , /3110,2411112 13 1788. AGM . MONDAY EVENING, AUGUST 15, l:$31. ' ' - ' '-• PRICE SEVENPENCE. be satbdoetory til - titeiten.ussaiberandth;hOZ: representationshould I;given to r. JANIS having received an answer to hie Boat gum- dons without spoliating Enelaad wished ingot aonditir, which was, whether there woo He cordially cotteorW with the artimeammedintito far ilisrudiabers of the. ream goer, a boon of Shy members a et.dreasestodasi fa di a* es litigitt Farr. I t a t rivf the is barren of seinsorgeligrier his paw We a ppd.* ti umber — oa th than th a t which he 41# show* dedt . end to eemprilenlie. hard' Ahheig roads so wawa& wp.e . . The Merging of CH ANDOI etumi agleam "thvieitimatNim *cab Nopilersitodoe income sass WIN at present constltetsi, ihrugillawst toss y of throwing over the third iteakweal/ have voodoos relating to U lowa Whaling them hi *Wind Palle* ihit to them by a tatormaid Own! sidered that no borough represen 4 whim-the house would be cleansed of the tiliicb pie in the *Mal of Bucking) eneumbeied it. (Cries of bear, and ab borough of Groat Marlow did, a ./,..w... seen, and it might prove inconvidat,nay ruinous to teaks. men and others to institute any inquiry respecting the dee,- logs they might have h a d with their landlords. (Hear) It would be attended with great difficulty in large constitu encies to call for proofs of the payment of rents, but of rate, and taxes nothing eould be easier. The proof of rates would, not include church rates ; for the Quakers, who in Rome iodate:es wailed to be distreined, could nct be expected to give proof of their having paid, as whether they might hare done so or not depended upon the will of the person whose duty it was to dbitrain them. The registration in towns he propped should be effected by the Beristers. On the st.lejfe jo int occupancy in p counties, an alteration wee to be introduced, that in all cases of that nature there 4 should be enjoyed as teary waters as there were forty shillings in the joint occe pansy of the f, er hold ; and the seen! principles he meant to apply to copy hold, only I.aving the qualification higher. Thus, if there were a copyhold joint occupancy of 1001. held by twelve persons, none of them were to have a vote ; but if it wet" held by ten persons, each would have a vote. This was a Nee perfectly analeguue to all our ancient legal prin. ciples; 'ltd, indeed, were it otherwise, endle.s disputes would ar§ee He did not then mention any V thes • topics with a view tb,eiecussion ; he merely wished that the pro posed ametelmenteshould be printed, placed in the hands of members, and brought under consideration on a haute dry. He concluded by moving, that the Chairman rep et progress, and ask leave to sit again. Sir J. BIRCH inquired if the equitable instrument re quired ti be stamped ? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, whatever a Court of Equity held to be an equitable title would be so heist ter the purposes of the hill. Alter some conversation, which merely led to upstitlors and explanations of the foregoing statetnert, the ho i.e re. named, the Chairman reported progress, and oh shied loser Walt again on Tuesday next. The other orders of the day were then disposal of, and lee beam adjourned at a SPIRIZ A S OUSIVA LS. • TIMES—At the same the. that we received dm Belgic „papers metnioned shove, we asokeed likewise Duteh pipers to the 13th Instant. The camisudiesionanide by ten 311 - M for Foreign Affairs to the Stotewanteral, explains the rift& course of the lets transactions. together with the viers mitenotlves of the parties. As it is itself a commentary is the proceedings of the Dutch Government, on the conduct of France, and the edgiest* of both to the London Conference, keequitva no comment from us. It wfilnodoubt be universally Teta If we can trust the Dutch papers, the war against the Belgians is popular in Holland. la the Journal de la Rap we find a patriotic song, entitled •• Onward." in which an insulting allusion is made to the call for French aid by the Belgians, who had hitherto pretended to despise •Dutcra prowess. The following is the verse to which we allude : " Mats l'ennemi, signalant as faiblesse, 66 Et pit Want devant noire courroux, " Vela 11.rangto pulse un eel de detresse, 66 Et Pittenger le dkrobe i nos coups ! " Quzga pitie auceide i la victoire ; el Beiges, cachets sous lee drapeaux fransaie, " Quc ce refrain vous rappelle i jamais " Votre defaite et noire Oahe. TIM RS.—A correspondent has tent us a statement, con. mining facts, which plead powerfully in favour of the right of Chelsea to be admitted into a share of the new repro serstation. Why it should not have been received into schedule D, when Greenwich, with the neighbouring towns, was& !mined into schedule C, it would be difficult to ex plain. its exclusion could nab* owing to the insignificance of its population, —tar the small number of its respectable bouseholdera e —to the trifling amount of its direct contri butions to the 8 ate,—.or to the satisfactory share which it possesses in the representation of any other district. Its population in the standard year of 1821 amounted to 26,860, and, that it has not been falling off since, is 'evident from the present census, which gives it 33,371. In the former year, tberefure, it exceed d in population any one of the wens in schedule I), which are by the bill entitled to one representative each. It even amounted to more than the total of any two out of eleven of the towns in' this schedule,—we mean Brad- HUI, Bury, Cheltenham, From?, Gnu ahead, Halifax, Huddersfield, Kendal, etetkificid, Werringten, White. haven.—While its claim is thus strong in point of popula tion; the next test of right, namely, its Assessed taxes, places it even higher in the scale than the census of ha Wine bitanta. it pays, in Reword tare, 23,4691. being a larger amount than that paid by any one of 21e out of 217 places now mailing members to parliament. Take another mode of estimating the comparative amount of its direct conteibutions. It will be renteinutred that schedule B contains bormagiegrof between 2,0110 and 4,000 inhabitants, which are allowed still to retain' their privilege of sending one member to parliament. Well. Chelsea. watch only claims the privilege of sending one representative, pays more amend taxes alone, than 33 out of the 41 boroughs in that predica ment, and exceeds in population the united numbers of 13 places on the name let. To put the injastir of the exclusion in mother lightethe statement proves wet Ch lees exceeds in poe polation.trebles in asitesamcnt.a:id nearly equals in number of houses, tight out of the mimicked uutoughs which still continue to send each two member,' to Parliament. Thus this great suburb of the metropolis, which only claims one representative, possesses more than the bads of property and population on which sixteen members are nominated in other places. Tete paper before use. varying the elements of the remain ' -, but still directing .he facts introduced to the same result, shows that on nu one ground which will admit any other place to a share in the representation. can Ch.lsea be justly excluded. But without enlarging ratchet on the subject, we beg to recommend the facet which we have just stated to theattention of the authors of the bill. HERALD.—The proceedings in the House of Coninwns on Saturday, were chiefly remarkable for land Al iltorp's in. nouncement of the intended alterations in the return bell. according to whieb— An agreement for a lease, or an equitable right under a lease, is to give a inlet° vote inacounty, aa if me lease was actually executed. The payment of a flue or premium, of 3001. or upwards, is to be considered as equal to a rent of 501. per annum, upon a lease for seven pun, and to give the right of voting ion counties. Copy holders are to be pat precisely In the same position as freeholders in counties. except as to the value of die estate. lona fide rent payers to the amount of 101. per annum, are to have the right of voting In cities and boroughs, with. out any consideration as to period or proportions in which the rent is paid; but there mud be a previous ownership ur occupation for 12 months instead ad dl. Upon all these arrangements, which refer to that important branch of the details—the qualification of voters, we appre hood there will be very little difference of opinion between the real friends of the maim. Those who oppose the principle will, of course, deprecate whatever has a tendency to carry that principle into effect; and the obvious purpose of the alterations is to open the qualification, and increase the number of voters as much as possible, both in towns and coun ties, without altering the basis of repr ese ntation, It cannot be denied, however, that the liberal Spirit which seems to breathe in the details, has, so far as- counties are cone rued, received a check by anticipation in the decision for eplieing couotiee—that is, cutting them into two, as if for the pure pm of dividing than between the great Proprietors. That the miniskirt intended no such effect we are bound to believe. and that in the working of the measure no such effect may be realised seem a probable conjecture ; but those who ate disposed to speak and think most favourably of the libera lity which pervades the conditions that confer the right, must abate their enthusiasm, when they menember the pro viso under which the right itself is to be eignised. . TIDIES.-oThe division of counties ought not to be al. lowed, and if the people of England be true to themselves, it will not. This abouilnaele dense would, so far as 34 enact. here are concerned, be a stultifieatiot of the entire principle of the Hill. I:nor:nous, sad in NOW respects politically dangerous. as has been the growth of Individual weal,h in this cowl ry; ette amodythe totemost duties of the legisle. wee is, undoubtedly, to counteract that accumulating poison, by every effort to reinforce those means of confede ration possessed by men of inferior fortune, which funs' ' their natural and only Instrument of resistance to the tvtant leviathan of each: separate - gastrin throughout the lewd Thie great good might bid fair to be accomelished by tite destruction of petty boroughs, the extensism of Mediae lean chilies, the abridged duastiou of paha, and those several wee advances fee frustrating the direct power of tummy over the repreeentative system whim the authors of tar bell have Add out le use but no human, malice ever litlrtStd set ei.- gine fur neutralizing and deteating WI such besiefiseal pur poses, decompkiess this csualyegrinding scheme. Suppose • there be 6,060d/won for a whole county, of which 2.00 e are to be tonne swig die s eenantry and depeodentkof a certain nobleman, sad Otis nobleman a proem nut generally contented • es confided hi for lite-pole& principles: t he men tap his nominee forelte ceutity, abseil, as {wog as it renwien,welt viiled, brings 4 0 el electors against hat 2, 0 00,and - teeten as ~.. MI• "~ . cv~^