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HOUSI OF LORDS, JUNE IS. Ike LORD CHANCELLOR called the attention of their I.orsishlps to the subject of the Roxburgh Peerage, and intimated his intention of making some propositions relative thereto to morrow. The Bills on the table went through their several stages—. among which was the I.ottery Bill, which was read the Sd time. Mr. Lushington, Mr. Stewart, Sir James Graham, aad others, brought up several Bills from the Commons—Among which were the Dublin Improvement, Lord Orntond's Butleragr Purchase, and the tit. George's Parish Improvement Bills. The House then proceeded to the Ord t ro f the E Day on .ui Grey's motion for an Address to the King, oh THE STATE OF THE NATION. EOGREY then rose, and commenced by saying,. that the more he considered the various difficulties and dangers which threatened the country, the more be was also convinced that the erroneous measures of the Mug's Ministers tended•daily to increase those ~- difficulties' and those dangers ; and he felt a strong and serious apprehension, that if the system on which \ they proceeded *as not speedily altered, far greater and more alarming dangers would soon ensue. These important considerations induced him to take a re : View of the whole situation of the country, not only as it regarded our various foreign interests and rein. ti,ons, but" our domestic tranquillity and safety ; and to endeavour* to shew to their Lordships, the absolute necessity of offering their advice to his Majesty, on the 'present alarming exigency of the public affairs. it would be thought, doubtless, most presumptuous in him to oppose his individual opinion to the com bined judgments of their Lordships ; and if he saw nothing in our sit u ation to excite an apprehensiOn of immediate evil—if he were fully persuaded, that their Lordships thought, and seriously believed, the composition of the present Administration suitable to the nature of the present times—that it discovered no signs of deficiency in the wisdom and energy that were so imperiously required—if lie had a deliberate conviction of this, he should, on that day, abstain from importuning the House. But he could not pre vail upon himself to believe, that such was the state of their opinions-'or feelings. It would ill become him, and it would be inconsistent with the respecthe owed to the House, were he to suppose that their ssLordships' votes were not given on a conviction that they were discharging their duty to the public in the most conscientious manner. ..He could easily con ceive, that seeingithe perilous nature of the times, and the state of hostilities, many were fearful of em. barrassing the Executive ;government ; and , even supported the passing of measures, or refrained from the censuring of past transactions, which were not, in their cool judgment, unobjectionable. Else, how could he account for that support given in that House to the measures of Ministers, when, out of that House, he could not find an individual who ap proved of their conduct and their fitness for the ma nagement of the public affairs ? Certainly, be could not out of it find any body of the people, of such opinion. Under these impressions, he had ventured to call their Lordships attention to the causes of this alarming state of, the country, and to the nature of the policy that had been pursued. In this task, he acted rather from the strength of his feelings, than from any confidence in his own powers. As he ap proached to the performance of it, his diffidence in creased, from the great importance of the subject it self, and also from the absence of his Noble Friend (Lord Grenville) whose continued indisposition he lamented ; and to whose judgment and experience, abilities, eloquence, and authority, he had looked to supply his deficiencies. But he felt a consolation in stating, that he was fortified in his own opinion by knowing the sentiments of his Noble Friend ;—and that the principles and objects of the measure lie should propose, had received his approbation. In proceeding to these considerations, so vitally impor tant to the country, the first of our difficulties that struck him, was our immense expendituie : an expen diture which, in the course of 18 years, had progres sively accumulated from 16 millions to no less than 85 millions--which had also become so difficult, so disagreeable, and so unpleasant in the mode of its collection. After 17 or 18 years of war and heavy taxation, without an interval, except the short feverish pause that occurred after the peace of Amiens, and which could hardly merit the name of peace, there could be no doubt that the country stood in need of some repose : but we were now in a situation in which, perhaps, the blessing of peace could not be gained ; in which it was extremely doubtful, whether an attempt to negotiate a peace would be successful; in which, if the work of peace were accomplished, it was barely possible to - obtain it accomplished by such securities, and such means and prospects of a tfety, as could alone constitute the true nature and character of a peace. If he saw any good reftsons for supposing an indisposition in Ministers to obtain peace, nobody would be more forward than he to urge them to negociation, and to call their Lord ships' minds to the subject ; but he lamented, that he doubtedewhether, at the present period, any proposi tion of that nature would produce any other effect than to induce the enemy to ascribe it to our fears and our weakness. Not entertaining such suspicion of Mi nisters, he yet thought that the errors of their con duct had materially contributed to postpone the pe riod of peace. It was his wish, on this great subject, to avoid all language that created irritation, and ex cite or continue personal animosities, which only tended to embitter and to prolong the miseries of war. It was impossible for him, bred and educated as he was, in the system of social order and morals existing in this free country, to avoid altogether the terms that must be applied, in many cases, to the conduct of that extraordinary man who ruled over France, he might say, over Europe : yet there were such remarkable circumstances attending his astonish ing career, which threw over it a prodigious splen dour ; and in military glory, at least, made it un equalled, perhaps, in the history of the world. But though he could not subscribe to his merits, at the e.zpence of his own moral feelings, yet he was not diposed to go so far, on the other hand, as to say that which should promote upnecessarily the spirit of enmity and war. When we came with the eyes of Statesmen to look at this subject, we must t a k e i n t o ,our serious consideration the characters of those who govern ; and we could not deny, that triumphing as 4;kur enemy did over prostrate Europe, and resisted As he'was by the efforts of this country alone, his great remaining object must be to overcome and destroy asst 7,;0 this - end, he must be prompted by the dis sppoimiusents he bad already experieased in such. a . , hope, and by his unlimited and grasping ambition. yet utirepealed > Nay, had not Ministers teen corn- This would, assuredly, be the grand aim of all hist I pelliPhy, t arcunntances to connive at the violation of foreign policy, whether iii war, or during peace; for their owilorders ? As for America, they knew; that peace itself;would be, with him, only a period of trade, in war, must be carried on by neutrals. But preparation for more effectually accomplishing his what had been done? That trade had been carried oin object. (Hear, hear, hear.) It would be folly and under other flags , European flags , in a state o f subset-- Infatuation in this country to act on any other con- eiency to the French Government.' Ldhlting at the viction, or with any other prospect. (Hear ) For political policy of Bonaparte, his measures, in this peace, substantial peace, no voice should be raised 1 respect, seemed the effect of deep - laid design. The higher than his own . He knew it might be said, II only question between us and America was a comfier that under the old Government of the French Mo- I cial - one of profit and loss—the effect was, that a nur _nimbi; similar views were entertained, and acted I scry was forming for seamen for Bonaparte's project-1 upon ; and that what he had said had a tendepcy to est fleets. Perhaps the House was not aware to what I 'promote perpetual war ; and he admitted that, in extent matters had been carried. From papers on the the reign .of Lbuis X[V. this was clearly the case : table it appeared, that in 1807 there were in that but how many circumstances were therein the Chang- trade 42,000 British seamen, and of Foreign Euro ed relative condition of the two countries, and of Eu- ; pean seamen 46,000. In 1809, British 'seamen i • rope, within these late years, to he viewed and esti- ! 19,600 ; and Foreign European 43,000. We then mated ? How very different was the energy and vi- l adopted the plan of extending licences,which, in 180 ti gour of France become ? and what a prodigious in- ! amounted to MO, and the last year to 15,000, by crease of territory and power had she acquired ? which we had an extension of trade, which made the i All,except with us, shehad enheppily accomplished, of number of British seamen so employed 34,000;. and her former schemes of dominion l The independence of Foreign Europeans, 58,000=50 that we had di -lof Europe was gone ! The balance of power was ' minished the number on the whole of our own sea ldestroyed ! The military greatness of Prussia was men so employed, and encreased that of the foreign annihilated! that of Russia and Austria were over- ers, who were occupied in navigating the seas of come ! The Government of France, situated the Europe, and on our own coasts. What could be a best of all continental Countries for the purpose of stronger proof of our fatal imeelicy ? Consider its l offensive war, possessed the whole of Germany and possible effects upon our naval superiority. Our pre iltaly ; and the resources of all those m.tritime powers sent increase was carried on by licences granted by who, in former times, had even disputed with our- . Government, a system totally inconsistent with the selves, the empire of the seas! Before peace arrived, spirit of a tree commerce, and irreconcileable to our lie feared too, that the Peninsula of Sp sin and For- free Constitution : for what, in a commercial country tugal would :)e added to, its resources and means of like this, could be more dangerous to our Constitu- I attacking this kingdom. When we reflected on all tion than this power, in the hands of Government, to these great changes, we must find, that to ourselves withhold or to promote, commercial speculation ? He alone we must look for security—that we must make might be told that nothing improper of this sort had .war so as not to fear a failure in resources ; so that been ddne—but, seeing its possible ruinous effects, it no reliance must he made on the faith of a future deserved their full consideration s in a commercial treaty, no dependence for repoee even on the state of and constitutional point of view. - Having stated our vassalage to which others have submitted. How in- impolitic and wasteful conduct in the management cf Icumbent, therefore, upon us, to husband our means the. wee—having pointed•oat our errors in our tran ; against the approach of the most formidable danger sactiofie with neutrals, and in our commercial system that the country had ever known 1 - This led him • —when he came to review our domestic policy, be Ito the policy we ought to pursue, and which he could see no ground for praise. In this branch of the Ideeply lamented had not been pursued. ' It was the subject; it was natural 'to look first at the means policy of that last Ministry, so much reviled ; but adopted for providing for this enormous expenditure, I who, in one year of office, found the greatest charge in the course of the last three improvident years, in against them, that they had not been able to reclaim which they had exceeded what was the wish of the the country from all the difficulties in which they last administration, in the extent of expenditure by found it involved. The moment their ministry etas- . eight or ten millions. On this - point he should ed, the reign of vigour, as it was called, commenced; avoid details, as it had formed the sußject of much and the nation were now tasting its fruits. The No-. observation and censure in a recent debate, in which i ble Lord had said (Liverpool), that we were not to , its imeolicy was amply shown. Ministers had the consider one system as economic, and the other as expenditure they had create le, only• by temporary extravagant ; but each of them, with a reference to expedients—they had taken the funds available for the actual state of the country. He agreed with him; the purposes of the- war, to discharge the interest and referring to the state of the country and of Eu- of their loans. This was an enormous depar , rope, and looking at our various unwise, expensive, ' tore from the system adepted e - ad persevered in with I ill-managed expeditions, deficient in every thing—the ; so much difficulty, of raising :exec within the year to I histories of which are written in tears and blood, to ; defray the annual expences, and of reducing, as much the dishonour of our country—he found his own !as possible, the amount {)f loans. His Lordship then !opinions fully confirmed. He should not enter into reviewed the financial policy up to the present time, the particulars of those expeditions ; but, referring ' when the charge was 4121,580,000,- aTI3 the provision to the speech of a Noble Marquis (Wellesley) the only £1,110,000 ; and £570,000 remained charge. other night, he declared, that no man had felt more able on the conselidited fund i o defray the expellees Ithan lie, what the Noble Lord had described ; no : of the last two years ; :t principle, if it could be s: - ) man's hopes were more alive in the beginning of the , called, never acted upon since the year 17ae, %teen • Spanish struggle : but that Noble Lord, in his splen- ! the sinking fond was established. The Noble En - 1 did declaration, seemed to think it enough to shew , then made various other statements tending to prove that the cause of Spain was just. It was not enough,, the improvidence of the measuees of Ministers in the that the invasion was unjust, perfidious, and cruel, i management of the public finances ; and intreated and that it made every English heart burn with a , their Lordships to look seriously into the consequelices holy zeal against the oppressor : they must shew a' of their wasteful expedients. He begged them to probability of success, before they hazarded the re- I consider what they would have to provide for in the sources and the lives of the country in such a contest. I year of a peace establishment. Could they look, un- Those deeds, which might shed, on generous charac.; der present circumstances, at a peace, without a pros ters, the most glorious - lustre, must be regulated, in ; pect of seven or £8,000,000 of additional permanent such cases, by the use of sound discretion. Magna-Itaxes ? Let their Lordships reflect, and give Minis ; nimity and generosity were proud national features; tors some check upon their proceedings ; and make but nations could not be chivelrous and romantic. them take a systematic view, ia order to form some Individuals might y and posterity would allow their , permanent system for peace or war. In their immense' claims to immortal glory. Nations, before they en- ' expenditure, in their ruinous expedients, they made gaged in daring enterprizes, must see the means of, no provision for the future difficulties that threatened making them effectually ; they must weigh the po- them. There was another subject connected with licy and the probability of rational hopes of success. (this. He recollected being one of the Committee This was their only mode ; and applying the princi- j appointed by the House of Commons on the occasion , pies to Spain, he lamented our conduct. Though no :of the stoppage of the Bank ; or, as it was termed,' !man would more sincerely help the execution of such i the restriction on the Bank from paying in cash. He attempts ; yet, as he had before contended, previous , certainly differed from most of the Committee at that to his sendihg an army, he should have felt it neces- :, time, as he thought the Bank ought to go to almost sary to know that therevras a government to support any extreme, rather than they should have recourse it, a public disposition to encourage it, and the means to so novel a measure. In submitting some resnlii. of its supply provided. In the want of these, the ' tions on that point, he had argued at large on the conduct of out Government was absolutely unjusti- ; danger that might arise from a depreciation of the fiable. Such risks ought not to have been again in-; Paper circulation. To have spoken then of the re curred, and another army sent, without complete se- • striction lasting there years, would havebeen thought curity : yet it was sent, another risk was run, and ! absurd ; but it had actually lasted thirteen years ; are another series of losses followed. These were his Ministete pad not yet taken such a view of the case, grounds of objection to the conduct of Ministers, who as to be ready to propose any arrangement on the indulged their feelings at the risk of our safety, in i subject. He did not hesitate to say that they ought schemes so expensive, so disastrous in bloodshed, and i now to look to the best means of bringing back the productive of no advantages to the country ;in con - Bank to its proper system. In our domestic concerns tradiction to the husbanding and preserving system. I there was a subject of peculiar interest and import- Had they made the power of tke French Govern- ante; lie meant the situation of the Catholics. The ment less than when they began ? No ! that power ; measures proposed with respect to that numerous was greatly encreased, and our own was diminished! . portion of the people, were founded on the absolute Leaving the further pursuit of the conduct of the war, I and evident necessity of strengthenier. the country I his next point was our policy towards the few powers against the meditated attack of the enemy. by unit unconnected by alliance with France. He should not eng in its defence the hands and the hearts of all clas dwell on the history of our fatal attack upon Den- i ses and descriptions of the people of the United King mark, by which we forfeited our character of na- ; dom. A Noble Marquis, the other night ( Wellesley ) tional justice, which, especially in the present times, ! had dwelt on the danger that would threaten; this was a great evil, and created in Denmark a more I country if the ports of Portugal and Spain fell into formidable erteepy than she would ever have become! the enemy's hands ; and the facilities they would af by any unwillin acquiescence in the dictation of I ford to his designs of invasion. Attend to this before France.—(Hear .) Sicily was a connection of consi. ! it be too late ; and provide for the country, that best derable delicacy t o s pe a k u pon ; but, from all he ' security, that cheap defence, that strong and impreg. knew, our policy there was not such as affairs required. I nable resistance, which could alone be found in the It was impossible to go into that subject ; but, with-1 union of the interests and affections of all. He hoped, out a change of system, notwitiestanding our assts. ; notwithstanding tise recent decision, that this great tance by land and by sea, he was apprehensive of its question would yet be taken up. He was tar from falling under French dominion. But he must parti- thinking, after 600 years of mismanagement and cularly call their attention to the re-establishment ofi misgovernment in Ireland, that by one act of Parlia the relations of commerce and amity with another, I ment we could remove all discontent. He had no and the only neutral power remaining, he meant I such hope. But what was called Catholic Emanci- America. He could not enter at large into a subject I pation, was the first and necessary step ; it was the that had occupied the debates of nearly a Session. I point to set out from, and from which we might pro. He and others then declared, the system of Ministers I teed with renovated hope, and with recruited strength. to be injurious ; they had been since told that the trade Thus, instead of being, with respect to that country, of this country had not suffered, as they predicted. in a state of apprehension and alarm, we should be Th it system could be justified, only either as it would i there, in point of defence, mo s t secure, and find force France to repeal her decrees, or to prevent 1 there the most effectual means of supporting war in Amen'ta from running away with our trade. It had other quarters. been already argued, that in the first view it failed, Widely different from a course of true wisdom and not having Trochiceid = 0 a repeal. Were theysuu policy as the conduct of Ministers was, respecting the orerations of war:and the external difficulties that. a y experienced, they were still more so, i n adopting - timely reforms in our domestic expe n di ture, ar tit ) the defects that existed in the practice of the en gn ' tution ; in which lett respect lie was eLeienion , th at much might be done by the abolitineof v as ie es flea less of ides. In all the great branches of our exp•er ture, considerable savings epight be made, wh et , et': public in would convenienc would not result . H 'h e 111111, ow. ( M f 'l l ii he Ch ever, ready to discourage the belief, that R ent t h ese particular resource/6 great reductions could take plac e —but lie was fully convinced of they. .y. and Ise:. cessity that whatever retrenchments m that way people, by etying, th at if any such fund coide be made , ought to be made. Still he wished to stite an d destroyed, the amoi a tn n t d his opinion on this subject feirly. He, for one, m i le n u o .e t re tl , a s t l t ‘ e v r p t t l fe away whole would he a very considereLlt• relief. H e %% N ed Imo tardier, and admit the 'whey and rt • • '. f scessey o 5t41.1 e ls e:ludo !. 1 such fund existing, at the disposal of theCrovne for the I rewarding of meritorious public services ; fund could only propetly exist at the Crown's: , What he wets daily in the habit of beat ing on this sub. ject, made him particul a rly desirous of speeki•et cut plainly. Could it possibly be good o.:onomy all from the necessary businsi.s of the state, • Set pa, sans of large and independent private forttines, a. O , from the nature and habits of mankiad, could notge. nerally be supposed the best qualified to 511 such situ. I ations ? He could refer to periods of our greatest I national prosperity eni glory, and shew that persons, who, by their talents, had raked them elves I sm ,e, I mations of comparative obscurity, had held the chief 1 . direction of the public affairs : nor had the conutty, in the best times, ever looked with disapprebee n er envy at the rewards and successes of such melte. IWho that viewed the mansions and domains of Burs . ) i leigh, ever beheld with uripleasing recollecti ons , t h at imonument of stational gratitude to that b: e of Mi n i,. stets, in the most glorious of reigns ? It never , out& l be useful cecoeomy to deprive the Clown if o e pesset of rewarding any but persons of large fortune, et Jess perate adventurers, who would seek to remueerate themseives by the misapplication of the public mr ney. (Hear, htar.) These opinions were fOunded on ji e x principles—the contrary opinions wore toweled, he thought, neither on cie.onorny,policy, norevcn on com mon sense. • But while his Lordship would preserve such a fund at the disposal of the Crown, it should be lirni . o.d in its :mount, and regulated in its object ; • guarded by wholeseme provisions,. and every thine 'that was obnoxieus speedily repaired. This the public iatet'ests and feelings icquired,; ant, though he was not disposed to give way to any unreasenebl: clamour,, yet, under the pressure of bur thens, and with the-sa c:it-tees which the 'peOple were called upon to make, Ire considered it their Lordships' duty to consult their* ease and their feelings in 'these respects, is well as in larger and more - importans . 'easeings.; and, by such conduct, to do what was )0 their power to allay the generally prevailing discontents of the country. Respecting evils in the practice of the Government, ihe was not ready to agree with all the theories he had seen or heard .on that subject ; but he did sesi. ,vutly think, that the influence of Government in vari. I ons ways, had of tear years-very considerably increased. }ln a'recent debate in that House on the Reversion I Bill, •a Noble Viscount had stated, on the authority of a pamphlet lately published by a Member of the 'other House (Mr. Ruse) that the influence of the Crown had etot increased. His reflections on consul ! sing that pamphlet led hint to consider it as contain ing much misrepresentation on this question. Was it possible, with the increase of our expence in a few I wears from ae16,000,000 to 0fi18.5,000,000, with all I our immense extended establishments at home, in the East and \Vest Indies, and our Colonies in every quirter, with the vast number of persons employ. ed in the labours of collecting the revenues, and in every dee Artment of Government, with the immense additions to our army and navy, was it possible that, ° under all these combined circumstatices, the influence end patronage must not have increased to a great, to An unknown amouat ? Such was his opinion on the subject of influence, which, not only for the sake of economy and of satisfying public feeling, but also so . secure the COnstitutiva against the farther increase of influence, lie thought it necessary for. Parliament to look at carefully and reduce • and he reeretted here again that Government h. id taken up no sys tem suitable to the times ; and he particularly hid to Liment that fatal bindness and infautation that had led Ministers to reject every proposition that was made to reduce those large, unnecessary, and insulting emolu. ments of-which they complained. Bur, as if to insult, disgust and irritate the public mind, reduced already almost to despair, they gave away places of the de scription he alluded to, to those who had no claim cf public service to entitle ,them ,t 2 such rewards ; of which there was a recent, instance fresh ih every one's mind (1-1-ar, /w r) p where no service had been per formed, except that sort of service which formed so inneg.an objection to these places—he meant service ' pm:foi.med in 'Parliament.---(ficar)— Here, as in `every other point, they continued, by •their errors ad. I crimes, to shock and irritate the public mind, by a' conduct totally inconsistent with their duty. Their Lprdsliips' duty did not stop there. He had spoken hitherto of economical reforms, and the reduction of needless places ; but he would not hesitate to say,,tbat it was his sincere opittinn, that it seas incumbent on their I.ordships to look into the defects, whicll, by lapse of time or otherwise, bad impaired the frame, and corrupted the practice of the Constitution of l'a- Lament ; and to apply such remedies to the case as were according to thil principles and object of the Constitution. He shoeld not have ventured to speak upon p rei this vo m us at c t a e r r e baenfdordezitiblieeriratiLono.rdsrlit erne ° d u a t Lordships, question which he took tip at an eirly period of his life, and whi‘h lie then pursued with eager expects cso'n c w i thout great thins and sanguine hopes. He would not pretend to lsle o s a p y i n t i l o t i a l t s t there a w n .e d r e n o n „, ; , t , s a c s ) n t r o e t i i i i i e tr m er g e , J o e c differences accompli e p n i 1 e s ing such an' object; but now, in his mantra age, he would say, that he had not seen reason to abandoe the general cpitticns he hid formerly enteitainea and avowed on the stiliject. A man must have been pre" maturely wise, or have derived no benefit from expe rience and observation, who, after the lapse of aweirty years, looks on such a subject, in all respects, In precisely the same light. lie was likely, thereti•re, now to consider and estiniate this question more cautiouslyupn this t, and soberly, i er m ly p , o t r l t l a a n n t l at ue a s n tio e n a ; r le l,iertirir!t e ,dc —: eitatiun to declare, that in his opinion muell I;" • - HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNE The LORD CHANCELLOR called the Lordships to the subject of the Roxburgh Peer his intention of making some propositions r morrow. The Bills on the table went through thel among which was the Lottery Bill, which wa Mr. l.usbington, Mr. Stewart, Sir James G brought up several Bills from the Commons— the Dublin improvement, Lord Orntond's 1 and the tit. George's Parish improvement Bill The House then proceeded to the Ordtr Grey's motion for an Address to the King, of THE STATE OF THE NAT . EatIGREY then rose, and comme that the more he considered the va and dangers which threatened the cc he was also convinced that the errone the King's Ministers tended •daily ti %. difficulties' and those dangers ; and \and serious apprehension, that if the i they proceeded *as not speedily alt and more alarming dangers would so important considerations induced hi : view of the whole situation of the ci. as it regarded our various foreign in teens, but" our domestic tranquillity a to endeavour* to spew to their Lordsl necessity of offering their advice to the 'present alarming exigency of ti: it would be thought, doubtless, ma in him to - oppose his individual opii bined judgments of their Lordship nothing in our situation to excite an immediate evil—if their Lordships thought, and seriou composition of the present Administ the nature of the present times—that signs of deficiency in the wisdom were so imperiously required—if lie conviction of this, he should, on t from importuning the House. But -rail upon himself to believe, that su of their opinions-^or feelings. It i him, and it would be inconsistent wi owed to the House, were he to su esLordships' votes were not given on they were discharging their duty to most conscientious manner. ,He I ceive, that seeing/the perilous nature the state of hostilities, many wee barrassing the Executive Povernn supported the passing of measures, the censuring of past transactions, w their cool judgment, unobjectiona could he account for that suppo House to the measures of Ministei that House, he could not find an in proved of their conduct and their fi nagement of the public affairs ? Cr • not out of it find any body of the opinion. Under these impressions, to call their Lordships attention to t ... a . 1a .... rm ... i .. i : ig .. . st . a . t . e .. of, th e . country, . and . the policy that had been pursued. acted rather from the strength of l from any confidence in his own poi proached to the performance of it., creased, from the great importance self, and also front the absence of 1 (Lord Grenville) whose continued lamented ; and to whose judgment abilities, eloquence , and authority, supply his deficiencies. But he fel stating, that he was fortified in hi knowing the sentiments of his Not that the principles and objects of should propose, had received his proceeding to these considerations, PaNt to the country, the fi rst of of struck him, was our immense expen diture which, in the course of 18 yt sively accumulated from 16 millioi 85 millions—which had also becon disagreeable, and so unpleasant in collection. After 17 or 18 years c taxation, without an interval, except pause that occurred after the peace which could hardly merit the nam could be no doubt that the countr3 some repose : but we were now which, perhaps, the blessing of pe gained ; in which it was extremely an attempt to negotiate a peace we in which, if the work of peace were was barely possible to - obtain it such securities, and such means a tfety, as could alone constitute the character of a peace. If he saw an] supposing an indisposition in Mi peace, nobody would be more for urge them to negotiation, and to ships' minds to the subject ; but he doubted/whether, at the present pe tion of that nature would produc than to induce the enemy to ascribe our weakness. Not entertaining sue' nisters, he yet thought that the CT duct had materially contributed tc riod of peace. It was his wish, on i to avoid all language that created cite or continue personal animos tended to embitter and to proton war. It was impossible for him, l as he was, in the system of social existing in this free country, to ave terms that must be applied, in mi conduct of that extraordinary man France, he might say, over Europ such remarkable circumstances attei ing career, which threw over it a dour ; and in military glory, at 1 equalled, perhaps, in the history a though he could not subscribe to , expence of his own moral feelings disposed to go so far, on the oche that which should promote unneces enmity and war. When we cam Statesmen to look at this subject, i ,our serious consideration the charai govern ; and we could not deny, ti 4;our enemy did over prostrate Euz t ss be'was by the efforts of this count remaining object must be to °were itestero this - end, he must be pros 4,ppoiautteats he bad already eipe - _ tat! n) in t.sti. !Lit lea y r . at 61e. Buse place nc. :onld stile tould fiord f th e lend t,n.s Dr the ii kit Pow!. s sat,. g cut dud. t a I 0, of fit'. 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