Star. — London, England, 1810-03-31 00:00:00

r PARLIAMEATARr PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, MARCH-So. Upon the Scotch Appeal, Hill v. Ramsay, Mr. Bet tt.t s was heard further for the Respondent, Mr. Boas ca for the Apel bnt, and Mr. ADAM in reply. After which the Loan CHANCEL , LOR affirmed the Decree 'of the Court of Session, but without costs. Mr. LUstIINGToN, Colonel S rAN LEY,attd Mr. LONG, brought, up several Private Bills from the Commons. The Duke of NORFOLK havin g ; received some further informa tion upon the subject of the Bil, the second reading of which he had moved for next Tuesday, obtained leave to withdraw that Motion. . • SPANISH PAPERS. Lord GRENVILLE now rose to make his pro mised motion respecting the Spanish Papers. It will with. extreme ,reluctance and pain,: that he now ad dressed their Lordships, and proceeded to -the dis charge of it duty no less embarrassing than it was painful. He trusted that no disposition would beim puted to him.of creatinsei:naginary difficultiei, Or of magnifying real ones. 's ßut the present difficulty bore so hard upon his mind and feelings, abet be would • gladly accept of the Noble Lords opposite, or from any Lord who heard the intimation, of. any means to lessen or relieve it. It had always b ee n the prac tice with the Government of this country, and it was an indispensible obligation upon - the Gevernmencof every civilized country, in their negociations with foreign states, to take peculiar care to protect their agents from peril or inconvenience This, indeed, was a duty so obvious, that any omission or depar tuie from it must unavoidably contribute not only tc the dishonour and disgrace of the Government so conducting itself, but must deprive it of all credit or competency in the progress of future negociations. And yet it would be found, that on the perusal of the Papers recently laid upon their Lordships table, and which he now held in his band, that a most shameful and opprobrious disregard, or rather, he must say, contempt of this honourable and essential principle had been manifested by the King% Ministers. He trembled and shuddered at the task which he felt im posed on him ; for, while it was necessary to essmee and brand with signal reprobation an enormity which he believed was unparalleled in the diplomatic history of this country, he could not but be aware,. that even in that .exposuie, he might perhaps be aggravating the evil of which he was complaining. The evil itself, indeed—that dismal and disgraceful calamity to which . he alluded, was now' past remedy— " Voir irrevocabile r The dreadful shaft was shot, and now the only slen-' tier consolation that remained was, to prevent the discharge of more arrows from that fatal qaiver.--- Upon looking into tha Papers on the Table; their Lordships weadd find, that not only all honourable and conflosential regard towards our Allies, and the persons. acting under their authority, had bon omit• ted s but that their character, conduct,And principles issd been directly and shamelessly attacked, and that, too, whhout the chance or possibility of those in;livi duals de. ending themselves, or repelling accusations which must render them odious, as well as criminal; in the minds of their countrymen. Here his Lordship read part of a letter from Mr. Frere, in which that. Minister stated, that General Cuesta was more than . suspected of hostile designs against the Central Junta, Inter whose authority he held his command. That this hostility, for some fancied injury, had been rank ling in his breast for six months. That he was jealous of the superior talents of the Duke de Albuquerque, then serving under him. In another part of the letter, Mr. nese described General Cuesta as utterly unfit f,:r his post, and that all the world agreed, that there were only two men in Spain that were duly qua lified to take the command, even of a small body of troops, and that these two were General Blake and the Da::e de Albuquerque. Here his Lordship ob served upon the effect of those letters, which, by the scandalous publicity which Ministers had. given to them, had probably reached Cadiz, where Isiah Gehe r :1 Cuesta and the Duke de•Alboquierque now were. What kind of feelings were those letters calculated to - excite ? His Lordship then adverted to another letter of qMte a private, nature, from the Duke de Albu querque to a friend of his, in which the Duke ob serves, that he had obtained the signal approbation of General Wellesley, and that he was considered By every officer, and by the whole army, as s beingMuch better qualified to take the command than Cuesta.— It was impossible not to foresee the most injurious and lamentable consequences from such indecent dis closures as these. The letter from the Duke, hehad observed, was merely of a private nature, and so much of that character distinguished it, that it con tained an injunction not to mention the name of a certain person who had recommended the appoint ment of the Duke. Yet in defiance or:contempt of this solemn, and he would say, sacred injunction, the paper was sent into the world ; aye,, and Ministers had the audacity to make their Lordships, the inttrii went of so outrageous a breac h of trust delicacy. He would not be understood to throw censure on Mr. Frere, for Iny-commuuications or. opinions. which he might think fit to transmit to Ministers, though he must strangely condemn the flippancy with which that aatches -be -haracters of Gentlemati discusses and dispatches the ct, —.p tcrent circumst.„. gas from that which the Noble Earl suppog . ed:' . The persons entitled to respect .. But wlrat. be felt himself • bound to condemn and execrate, was the stand*. circumstance now alluded to was subsequent to thai ex- connected.with the sf .otme. loss and unprincipled c onduct of Ministers, in multaneous Movement of posing those papers which they ought to have pre- ral Venegas with Sit... Arthur Wellesley. .- - s erved in sacred silence , m erel y with the despicable', -,. - rt• i he qu ' estion VMS then pot on tlle MOtiolVai Lotd. view of screening thems elves b y an y means, or at any GAYA Vi..4i and negatiied without i . diVitiond .. ~ sacrifice, horn the odium which their conduct through . Adjourned 0 monda T. . .• . . . , , the whole of this business, as well as of every other ... --- in which they had been concerned, must draw upon . . -: them. The papers would distlos? the names of three __ ____. -__...__. !i° l !"4:E. a. .- i,4 9 I ; 7 CO Ir M ick MP ,I r e th -' i ;; ct , r , teeived from itulividnals, who in all probability might soon be in L ge w s r eu t ist Ar: o l orwertb the 'lloki of ' the liOuse. • !, the.power of the French Government — Here it was The Sall ihield 14; *nice r Hid' Rif read'i first,attiardited to be:, intimated from a Peer behind, that two of those per- read a second Oise . an t l a literi!tairxt. ,•. • : '-: -. • . sons were now actually in the power of the 'rench) . cogai l e ? i t t l i A os r ° C f. the _2..satt , ni XCPt e gr a .E il lt si m r it a nd, siti thas scot th r : —upon which his Lordship made a solemn and pa loatesshouldb‘def t goodsi. • , :) thetic appeal to the House to step forward, and as his, CRIEVkY : *nto* 4wheptet4tiez,hfaied Sir a: ' far as it was yet possible, to save the country - fi'om -Barlow Saibmvoisteradfoakeof . ._ . , -..- • . • 1 ^. e which the neglect, and m is- llte CHANCELLOR, at thit EXC.ii4S2u 4_ l l, te, l o. al well at *ettriksip , as calculated to bring upon it. ' the le." 1 ".. a hit vette erg* '4olleits that such a could cow move, that Whatever. nilff e c " . ""r t v.E 77,.... lll 4/214 .,„..; • -, . • ; hie eh 1me ..,..,. ,_____, . _ e_ proceedings in Spain, which b e wea l& m o re for all trefloornorr:adomi‘ :be r ia '' 7 •4 l :7 o r o t . be printed after those already veroaseita le the - whiter er theist. e.♦ tetatrieP"te.ir.tPteetteet to ..idships, should he. consigned to the Plethhtter el hle4cefe_.__, ,• • _,._ ~,,_l _ ,..__. Secrecy, empowered to examine ~L.,„1.11.r.....—""141......5.._11414.-_44._—_sulut.... _"*1"te......4"m_. . _.‘4115/WITIC.to berth a* t t edi he ! , such as may be disclosed with-) 1 " : "" frm 7 gi n W u . t.:7647:1114:14/ta:ileattiefr Lerdamps 1 lunlry, or 410;7 0-01* Allies , of • bed posed. a *17114 ••, sr ihteddikiat Iran Lady Essex by Tned. rOta Wei, roWliki ttiol(Afteditlutsscurrowe Odds Howse. LEY agreed with the Noble , Tols Bat was go4*.cant dme. •.. _ _ ; ..• - . Lord {Grenville), as to what he had said, partici"- f - ''' -• a DR. MAYNE. larly . circumstanced, respecting the production of, __14 . 1%,..a5- 5 . tag since upon The Report of t heConrinittee of Inclu!ry . resptr confidential' docuinents. What, however , was the ' ri th a n 0 t in , 'g to ionic observadors be bad ' made some I ..... „tature, what the extent of the present call. on theai in trgusactions in theiiiciattd.Hun DepartMein.4%istal2l wished to onle a whether any prosecution " d be re l fa °r leatrons h in t that g gDe -11.0-oset The militaryaresialt of the cartipaigns in- a g 'ainst Doctor M a yne for his pecuniary 'Spain `not 'having been' tsi thejust hopes , euralaialat ' Mr. ciOKER replied, that it happened to him to know that and expectations of the' country, asitO wag there ; the fart was, as the Honourable Gentleman %opposed, a prose aMong their I.orashipi, thitt - %TIMM •iiot.'lriail the ;•oitie other ;l on very lately. cutiva had ' , exit comMenced against t h e Doctor, and was goo.g case thoroughly sifted ? Hence , then if - g round, the undeniable necessity.of laying the pre- ; . BUPP L Y . sent papers before 'their Lotilships.• Con cerned . was ' be to say, that the real ` thirsts of the rnistottunes of the Peninsula had been obscured. • Those misfortunes originated in the roismaaagentent and misdirec tion the military resburcei . of Spain; nor coald they be .11_ Mr. WHARTON moved the,House to go into a C . onstni d ttee of Su v ie. The amount of Exchequer Bills ou tstaudi , og,.an . Of monies issued under addressel , not made good by 1 arhaa . ne.r ... , of were referred to the said Committee . The Honourable . f..ent t • nil thl: Committee moved. that the sun) pf £15,160. sis. 61. " 2 " . gr ant ed to make good so much money issued portuant to ad i undue.lood WitliOnt the utmost eaplicitnees . . Respect- d e reass and alai sei,6oo • . The Resolutions havin g been agreed to, the House resumed, and in General Cuesta , there-Was not one : woad *hien 000 be granted for Excheqtaer servicus. i the papers orl Eke table did not 'fairly and fully the Report was ordered for Monday. • WALCIIEREN EXPEDITIONI. bear out. With *gar& to: hi - 111501f, , 'he 'trusted, The CHANCELLOR of the. EXCHEQUER 1 ana ilils. in . GOD t. that all the documents . expla . Nav in natory of his conduc t while in a Spain, would be g moved the Order of the Day for go in g into the djourned debate on the Walcheren expediti on, Iconvassed • and not as the Noble Lord {Grenville) Sir THOMAS TURTON tell tha t he could say Moved, referred to any Secret Committeel The re- I nothing new after the long and able discussion which s moval of General Cuesta *as n o t *worth his :formal had already taken place, and given the House all the demand : it was that which of-coarse must take place; and in fact, General ttiesta; With universal katisfac- information that was necessary on the sub je ct.— laugh.) For his part, be * would not limit his yen ' How itted ell command wete Ministers fri het? illfartisir Deatees, t'" servedance to one Member of the Cabinet ; t he y all de-- ty (Hear, Lear.) But lie must ackn ow l ed g e he could Lion to the people Of Spain , nbd it there, the 'first week after - bit OW'n arrivalinSpain.— not help speaking on the subject f o r all that. *(A gether with the imbecili of the GoVernmeot,' were Elie proximate causes rind ete rind ntitalag'entsi of and ,in, to be attacked, and he could not let on e of them pass ; but he must take the liberty of apprieing the catastrophe Otthireabiaulta . Were the*.causes to be screened? Were-those'effeets to be . He denied ? the House that they might simplify t he sub j ect,- and perfectly sathfiedivith recomMendin g rite Duke save themselves trouble, by forgetunitheolddiaiiien of the question, and adopting a new one. He would d'Albuqueique : winless, -as hill COnfirMation of this, that General's defence of Cadiz. Fo ur men therefore, for the sake of brevity, arrange theaihole lin three divisions—the Ist, of the object ; the 2d, of theme were, though the - Noble Lord did not, pru the means dourly he supposed, naine'thent, Who might 'be, he ;• and the 3d, of the retention of , Flu shia g . The first he would divide into two others. (A l a ug h, felt free to own, affected by the' papers'o n the table. Of these, the first was proscribed by ourGoveenrnent and man 7 Member: leaving the Home.) Those two were I —first, the British objects concerned ; and second, .—the second was notorionaly disaffected to the cause the objects of the allies. It had always appeared to of Spain - the third case was one whkh the Noble h i m very extraor d inar y t h a t expeditions were so much Lord either had not sufficiently examined, or did not , the favourites of the English Ministers. The Ex-Se , understand ; and, as to the fourth, the fourth was the crerary had said, that the last was. undertaken as a lease of some one employed, notoriously employed, .-diversion ; he had moved for many papers to spew by the French Government. Now , wh e re was the , this ; and lastly talked of the retention of the island, evil of exposition, where the benefit of compromise, . as only prudent with a view to combined operations in all this ? If, indeed, we were at amity with ' with Austria. - It might be necessary to make sacri. Spain, _perfectly understood, we should conceal, even • fices to secure an object like the destruction of the honour, her feelings: but when the weakness of her . French fleet ; but for his part, he would not enlarge conduct had produced incalculable calam ities, why , upon the operation, for he (Sir Thomas Turton), conceal the evil ? Being her allies, instead of conceal- . knew nothing whatever of military matter s ; but five ing such Mischief, we ought to expose it ; in order to . Generals said the contrary ; they were all adverse to lay the grounds ter at better policy—(•Laugiu)—be- i the attack ; and if Lord Nelson's authority was to tWeen the two countries. Whatever might be thetas- ibe brought forward, what was it that his Lordsh i p ject of the Noble Lord's motion, he {Marquis I.Velles t said ?N o thing more than that Flushing ought to be icy) desired that his own dispatches respecting the ! taken, for the sake of the ships that were lying there. Peninsula might, at least, be candidly lubmitted to , But when it •was afterwards proposed to take it by the world. ...._ i surprize, we had not 15,000 men out of 104,000 that Earl GREY supported the motion moved by Lord . •• • were on the table. The Honourable Member 'then Grenville ; and insisted on the i mp ro p riet y of produ ' went into the examination of the facts stated in evi cingdpetantents which involved the fate of individuals, i deuce by Sir Richard Strachan. Here, said lie, we not.called fiaa when sufficient passagea might have i find the Admiral giving his opinion against the pro. been selected to answer the purpose of inquiry. Were, ect ; and is it not wonderful that they ever shou ld however, :the papers 'referring to Cuestaa rtn - d Albu- ( have sent him ?(A laugh.) A aallant General, querque sift that strip'? (H'. r, Hear.) The opinion (Crawford) had, after going . through his campaign, of the Noble Mirquis as to Ctresta's imbecility, with ! I said that he would have driven the enemy's troops that of Spain, was rather adverse to what h© nut ! before him like dust ; but perhaps that dust might once pronounced in the House.. Formerly the Noble 1 ; hare been particles of shot that might have touched Marquis praised Cuesta-a-( Hear, Hear.) — Formerly;' our men, and laid them level with the dust. (Loud the Noble Marquis panegyrised the Spanish niilitary.llaughing .) . He bad great respect for runny of the Mi r —General Cuesta once collected, according to the nistry, and particularly for a Noble Lord (Castle- Noble Marquis, the best disciplined o f the S p anish . reagli), for whose absence he was extremely sorry.— armies. Even now Cuesta was at Cadiz, contending I Indeed in the thin state of the House (the Members for the last best hope of this country in Spain, (Here ' having almost entire)aleftthe benches), he was sorry Marquis Wellesley motioned, with his hand, some- to fundamen thing like a negative to what Lord Grey had said).. have delivered his oVi t aion on this great ad vital subject ; - ,hui - theVkwaS'no - part - of the eon -Why, then,' produce confidential communications, ; duct - pflalinisfers to Whitt) he Must notistijecta What betraying private correspondenCe ; affecting the- uke I • did ttey do With ont'arilifjeasaontileir return '?- What 'D'Albuqucrque, and General Venegas, one of__ the i he woi.ld have theluettheprOper Made .was, 6 have most . distinguised commanders Of Spain, no* in I sent them off to s tiiWn ao recoveraind then pot arms , South America ?. Considering the in fl uence we once I into theivabands, and Seat that . to of nose the 'enemy. • possessed, in the Peninsula, why did we not remon- (Lou strate against the Spanish Junta , when they suffered;l. d and: continuellbuihing.) He would not have seat aliem'aout in 'drigleti a. lie woad not have sent (consequently on the information of Cevallos) seven them out - piecemeal. 'After some . additional obser hundred French prisoners to be put coolly to treat- ! various , the Honotfinble • • Meivilsei concluded, by Surely their Lordships would pause ; and consider saying, that hiawished to extirpate the very name of the effect that this ;oviduct Might have on the future eapcaliticni- •' character •of the war. Could the Noble Marquis Mr: CANNING rose to explain. He was surprised (Wellesley) have already fargotten, that his -Noble ,at the mistakei.whieb the Honourable - Gentleman Brother (Wellington) had found himself obliged to i ctadd haveauffeied hiniself to make in remarking on appeal to the humanity of a French . Gerieral; on be- his (Mr. Canning's) . evidence .. In contradiction to half of his abandoned prisoners ; and that the a pp eal ' those -remarks, the fad was, that he (Mr. 'Canning) was attended to, generously acknowledged, by the had never moved tor the Austrian correspondence ; foe ? Suppose the present p:lpetS• to be translated into or. spoke pif the retention of Walcherep, as a come- Freud', and meet the eyes of the Emperor Napo- quence 'deny 'cotniatunication with Austria. . • lean ,• might not he, particularly in the instance of . jenetal I,.OFTUS thought.it was necessary, in ,the Governor of Million—might not Bonaparte, who order toc - appreciate the merits of the Expedition, to was more able to , strike than to threaten, inflict the consider - the* state. of Europe at the time it was sent Most terrible Vengeance on those, exposed by our do- out. The great pii*er of Prance, die great impor curnents, whom hp_discorered to be traitorous to his tance of the"nattaw seas„ and the paraniount Dirt of the Scheldt' fleei, rendered it -In hiii . oPinicin e sera interests ? The Noble Marquis did- not, he hoped, wish." to situate the House in this situation." It tially necessary to our own interests, •to Make this Was his wish that a Committee should be appointed effort. The opposition of wind and 4cather frus-. to revise the document% now on thetabled the House. trate d t h e e ff ort , a rid a 6 ri s h ne i t o n t h e p art o f mi. • Th. Marquis WELLESLEY observed, that the nisters. , Sir FRANCIS BURDETT was very much stir papers now before their Lordships referred..tO• a' dif- -.tante in the conduct of GenefalVene- wised - the doctrine which heahad heard, that be prised at clue it was. an object of vital' importance.to destroy Antwerp, .we should therefore have undertaken it *with' meant . , fa . its executiow •He 11:13 that - in proportion to: the iniportante of the . object ~•.Ingla to - be the - means. employed. StirPriseil as he was at,this,, live/ever, he confessed his astonish ' meet was hicrdisesl in **tenfold degre e at the coot indiffirisiei.witkiihithihe.floble Lord opposite had affected to-argue talaniines which had been . de ' rived, tn:iheinnetry his More dilas!roos, Mord:tilt:a ceful, and more. dreadful ttfait FitrartsMfrnio'nol'othei l 'expeditiotrin . the his. iopt; the . •ttf 'the present period. The tstdble'Ldirhatt t tesli a ivish to ha4e this expe. triecrby fati: •tn fris'OPiaiori ? Diat . viii Pre l'clael:t the' ordeal by ';, , ihictr;Ati, - order, to suit Fit iettiit of the Otithf'nnft•Olg-tried thereiVii 'wli?cti lid liot; , ion.: Teti I-160,.Geotle . ripin .469hadrein 'ListiltAt; • ;lam a low and outfi t - • 4hd to Od6to - ..diittrait tbiiiiiiiictbfilte: • Sifnsin! `the' oiq take to*hteltit-ihiftricFbisibelikV, iiirveftif Wtuitkitt''tie iworia itO argued *atilt • Etiz'altron'thight to 4 0 4 1 beg` fent admewlnee.' Piellatritatextthillt to the . NortlaVvilozGittiiiifiroftbVirteitttNitthOut- - eons ld era 'g o d at igerelft ; d, indeed, of a total fai!ur He had even, in his fandied speculations, talked or treading the Straits of Gibraltar, and prophesied great danger fisnm such ail attempt. He was not dia. posed to deny that every one of those Expeditions might have been abortive and ill-advised in the adop tion, but he would deny that any one of them could ,have met with more complete failure, or more cal.l - consequences, than N ei d d id ier th thga e indea c n i t :. : e i:itnyta v itiL l :zei l lt i d c at l: : :: ‘ .J.. acted one— , siah Inia, nor'the Straits of Gibraltar, nor ',! - :e Zkl , ( Hear, hear.) . d thei te ira m a ri l ~i t i t e S f,-,,:t, which, cot i s l e d nt he ot m tr o; nt e v f e ri to fall before an invincible enemy, the plague, Marshes of Walcheren. • Ministers i •however, •:;1 ~,,_ . think so ; they determined to tend out an ENF:,•:. 1 ... , land out they sent one, without having obtained 'a. , . 'particle 'of information as to how it should pence :2, or taking one single precaution against. 'lie r:,.-• - perils which- impeded their progress. In N...: last, the Noble Lcrd conceived the i dea t i ibis ; •: •.. paign ; be thought he had a disposable !nr;-,. ; ,! .once he had it he was determined to waste ii. ; ir:.: ~, he sent to the Commander in Chief for hie .pinion dii f the subject.a-The Commander in Met sent back for anSwer; that he could not spare 16,000 men fi r the purpose! - Sixteen thousand men out of the enor mous establishment . paid for by the country ! The ExpeditiontOuld not therefore sail in March. No ; necessity and the prudence of the Ministry prevented it. The feVet was-not then to be.met with, and the ships might then Intere•beeis taken.; - and so the Eite dition was *dent - red until the raging of the disease, 'and the ii6ry of the airtnament. ' In July then they set out to carry' the fever, Antwerp, and the fleet, by a coup-rte:snate . .:e-(Hear, )--a coup -de-main ! and yea it appeared by the ceders of the French' Emperor to his officers, that he was apprised of the intention even se far back •as March. • if he had not this certainty,. such were thetabals and vacillation of the Ministry, that he would 'not believe they had themselves con ceived the project at that period. He could not help 'now making One inference, however, from our ea ' verty of force in M irch last ; which was, that the House and the country had been most grossly de ceived in the estimate of our loss during the preced ing campaign in Spain, which had been laid before them by Monsters. If this estimate had been true, it was impossible that we should not have had forces enough to send the expedition to Walcheren ; but tip estimate waanot true. We had lost much more iil e_ the Ministers chose to disclose, and the country ea. , idriped into an opinion, that its situation was more. [prosperous than it was.—(Hear, hear.)—At length, however, ,ttl:tispo eNosbaLle force Nobleuz cotild muster, undertook th e i ert Ex , pedition with against the great skill of-the ..Frepeli Emperor, and the great rope r of France, _whim s lnsweirer, wrotffe viq now, in _eect, all Eti rope. The Noble:Lord, a most cu rious letter to tin:Commander , itaChief, pointing oue the advantages of 'the Expedition, and declaring, if it was not then undertaken, that Antwerp would soon be impregnable. After this, what did he do ? Why, commenced this important Expedition without one single iota of information i He sent out an immense armament, merely to see whether a blow might not he somewhere struck against the enemy. The Noble. Lord dispatched the Expedition at last without infor mation on which to proceed, without a plan to guide it, or the supposed opprisitiim of any danger, until it reached Batz, while all its 'operations terminated t From the depaiture of di! Expedition, till its artiss. at Bate, there was not r roe step which did not demand enquiry. It was sent out without an idea of danger till it came to -Betz, and yet at that very place did Ithis great Army, conducted by greater lolly, end its catalogue of disease and disasters by an announced failure.—(Hear, hear.) To send out this Expedition, however, the .Noble Lord was determined, because he considered that there was a fit disposable force ie. the country ; a supposition taken tip in direct opposi-- tion to every military opinion 'he bad asked. The Noble Lord was like the poor man in Horace, who could not be persuaded that all the wealth in the country did not belong to him. The indifference of tht Noble Lord was - 'now detestable ' • the calamities. which he entailed on the country were horrible, fright ful beyond expression, and the levity with which he treated the subject now truly dreadful. The No ble I Lord had an idea, that because Antwerp was at the n w l i o ti m m e t i :t t di‘..lifitirul4tt y. tra i o . p h s is , l h v e: s n a lig m h o t s t t a f k a e lla i c t io a u t s o id n e T There was not, most probably, at this moment, a perfect garrison either at Toulon or Brest ; and yet what man in his senses could conceive the notion of taking either by a cols -de-main ! If these things were to be persisted in—if diefoeces of -the country were to be thus unnecessarily; and unprofitably squanderea,. it was impossible not to foresee how it would end.— The Noble Lord had, however, thriught proper to take sonic opinions as to the possibility of taking AntWerp by acoali-de-rartina , - He asked the opinion ( - e the Commander in Chief; he knew nothing at all .about the matter: bur he tcferred to four General Officers, and they, indeed, produced documents it, 'reply, full of official`' form, hill of affected science, assumed pomp; and perfect inanity. All of them sail, ..if you 'do so and sop you may succeed ; y et all agreed upon the idea of the coup-de-main-upon An:- werp being absurd. General Brownrigg propoaa, two places of campaign . ; there was some s light oh jections to both ; the one was impossible, and the other impracticable. The, attempt by Ostend was Get oethequestion ; and the other plan, evert putting the fever aside, verY: doubtful of success. In such ase tnation was the military part of the Expedition s out : the same miserable deficiency in means, pila. and inforination, attended the navy—the Noble 1, - 71 at the head of the Admiralty- knew nothing at ;i . ' -+he was -quite ignorant 'on every subject , on which he shmild be 'informed ; so traX Sir Richard St: t.' ;ban ; be told Lord Mulgrave 'so, but Lord Mita grave was not,tobe persuaded even by fact. 4g Nor wud he, 44 . yo u ce rtainly'do know nothing, but that is the reason.l have great easaftfidence in you."—Thes 'lorent forth this disastrous'Expedition, to diminish the hottotiteof our army, and destroy the best hopes of =cLAlfear . , Nsen.} In fifteen days, it Was cal toga Vie' thi thavereached Antwerp by Ostend; thii wits 'data . fit a svejaile-weia• and was *b an ' = lre i n var a ka e sses was ' ; the other . afalanding even beret we got to Bats the lima ravel ' eihaustesi. (Ear, hear.) Ilut stiatebii• tai • And the Conthuntert vreraddighted..anatul. '' '.'•- Ti • • between them--it was . av nu,- ' ' ' .• • pissed :•,• • - sued ailecfithis It . ever beard of. Th e ~ t.. I • 1 i 1 J them. The papers iht.mi ..0 individuals, who in. all 1 In the.powev of the French 73 intimated from a Peer b . C ca s ons were now actually • —Upon which his Lord GI .0 . thetic appeal to the Hc I'EP far as it wbl as yet- possi Q' ' the deplorable d is g race conduct of Ministers w:i vs c CI For this purpose he silo fladipirs -relative- to the. .' pre-sett. n i ted to their d. Lot be a Comthidee of Seer them and 'preset:c:may o ut danger to the CCAVA any individuals concern ~ Marquis WELLES: