Star. — London, England, 1821-02-06 00:00:00

~*^'. +~ 1 "'" 'there—(Hear, hear, hear). Ile had thus stated h i s ' its opinions on them; since, as Lord Bacon had truly opinions without any object but justice, and without said—" You will sooner know which way the wind communicating with otbers. He had also delivered blows .by casting up a straw, :than by casting up a them without reference to the appeals to the Public. stone." Here he cloied the points of difference be- Never had he heard so many adjurations to look out tween himself and Ministers: they were as nothing of the House; never so many forewarnings, so in comparison with the whole, on which he cor- many menaces—(Heer, hear). But he was tint to dialle agreed with them. He approved of their in- be moved by such considerations, and the House stituting the proceedings. The Honourable Gentle would do well to form their judgments on their man (Sir James Mackintosh) had asked where was own minds, and without regard to other impres the necessity for these proceedings? In the coin se of aions, to give - their votes honestly—(Hear, hear). his experience, there never was a case More impera- Nothing could so entirely destroy the Legislature, as tive; for it was impossible to allow the Queen, labour- their trembling in every breath of *popular air—as ing under such charges as she did, to mount the throne their balancing loyal Addresses against Addresses of without making a communication to Parliament. another description—as their attempting to adopt If Ministers had suffered this, the, House, instead the opinions of the Public, without reference to the of the motion now before it, - would have been dis- intrinsic merits of the questions before them—(Hear, cussing whether they should or should not he im- hear, leear). Even if they tried to accommodate them peached for withholding from Parliament the evi. selves to this test, they would find it a difficult thing dence of the momentous charges of which they had to determine precisely what public opinion really knowledge—(Cheers).—lt was asked b . : the Learned was. They would find it to be most fickle, most un- Gentleman, what would have been the evil if they constant, and =St ungrateful—(Hear.) Fickle and had not proceeded? Was it no evil then to admit unconstant! for public opinion would not'be the same imputed adultery to the Throne?—(Hear, hear.— at the end of three months—ungrateful! for if they Would it have been a slight thing to place at the studiously consulted what the multitude believed, head of the female society of this country (that female under impression of passion, and not of reason, pub society distinguished by all the feelings and princi- lic opinion would be the first to turn round against pies that could delight human kind)—would it have them—(Hear, hear). But if lie professed an otter been a slight thing to have permitted her to assume disregard to that public opinion which the political the highest rank, and to set the foremost example Advisers of her Majesty had caused and relied on— among these, who was labouring under such heavy to that public opinion which would itself change, charges? —(Hear, would-give no opinion if appealed to when sober from its own intoxication; upon the proceedings, but that opinion he could not if he utterly disregarded such popular sentiments as help influencing him, and it must be the justification these Advisers instilled (and when speaking of the of his conduct in private life, where this party was Queen's Answers to Addresses, he made allowances concerned, and of his negative to the present motion. for their intemperance, on account of her unhappy While admitting this influence of the proceedings on situation) , it was because they emanated from the his judgment, he was al s o re a dy to concede to ‘Gen- arts not only of the fatal enemies to the peace of the tlemen opposite, that the Bill not having been car- country, but the greatest enemies of the Queen ber ried throtigh, the Queen was entitled to the benefits self. He believed, too, that a great change had taken of an acquittal as far as her rights and privileges place in public opinion, and that it would be ulti were involved. But he had to consider what was due mately and decidedly in their favour, if they were On her accusers—now the accused, and he felt coin- not too anxious to form their deliberations to its will, pelled to.aenuit. them when he saw these conridera- but on con'cieatious motives—(Loudcheering). tions forced upon him by the motion. He saw the Lord NUGENT declared that lang uage had been absolute necessity for p r oceedin g a ga i ns t th e Quee n , used in that House which would not have been tole and the same exposure would have been the inevitable rated in any other place, of any woman in England, consequence of any attempt of Ministers to evade it. who had a father, a brother, or a husband to have Ilad they attempted this, then they would have been defended her. Upon his honour lie believed that the guilty of a dereliction of duty, and have given proof Queen was innocent of every gait of the charge that of their wish to retain office. The only inquiry re- had been brought against her. They had been told, niaitting was, if the course of the proceedings was that if the charges were not substantiated against not, under all circumstances, the wisest? Atter con- her Majesty, she should be placed in the same situ sidering all the evils that had resulted from them, ation as if no such charges had been brought against and having bad experience of what they were calcu- her. But how had these pledges been kept? Her latest to produce, he was persuaded that in making name had still been excluded from the Liturgy ; and the choice of evils, the selection was, on the whole, she had suffered unmerited persecution, and every that which was the most likely to attain the ends of jus- species of insult and degradation. The Hon. Member tice, and on his conscience lie believed it to be as for Surrey had said, that lie considered the Queen as favourable to the Queen as any which could have morally convicted, but not brought up for judgment. been adopted—(Heare, from the Opposition). As Geri- He knew no answer for that but one, and that was, tlemen challenged, by cheering this opinion, he would by giving the phrase a flat denial. Public justice had briefly state why he preferred the Bill of Pains and acquitted the Queen of all guilt; and instead of fix- Penalties. lie took it for granted that it was conceded ing a stigma on the head of her Majesty, had fixed to him there could be but two ways of proceeding— it on the bead of Ministers. He begged to call the by a Bill of Pains and Penalties, or by Impeachment. attention of the House to a pamphlet published since If the latter had been chosen, a Committee of that the acquittal of the Queen by the Lords, whiCh had House must have decided on ex paste evidence, and dared to speak over and over again of the guilt of the House must have voted, aye or no, on the charges the Queen, under the title of" A Speech by the Lord placed before it. The prejudice thus raised against Chancellor of England." He was sure, that if that the accused must have operated for the long interval Noble Lord had any knowledge of this libel, he would which must elapse before sire could have entered feel it his duty to prosecute its author to conviction. on her justification, which would have been infi- He concluded by declaring his determination to vote nitely worse than anythi ng of th e ki n d w hi c h h a & Heartily f or th e motion of his Noble Friend. been complained of in the other mode. —He Lord MILTON was anxious to make a few obser also doubted if an Impeachment could have been vations on the speeib of the Right Hon. Gentleman maintained where the person with whom the crime (Mr. Peel). He could not avoid thinking the Right was charged to have been committed, was not a sub. Hon. Gentleman had failed in making out the case ject of the realm, and the place of its committal was he wished to snake. The Right Hon. Gentleman beyond the jurisdiction of the kingdom. If any warned persons not to attend to public opinion, and doubt existed on this point, so as to warrant the sup- at the same time applied public opinion to the sup position that it might lead to a technical acquittal, it port of his own argument; but whatever the Right was a sufficient reason for not proceeding by Im- Hon. Gentleman might say on that subject, it was peachment. The Bill of Pains and Penalties, he re- clear that opinion in favour of the Queen had been peated, was favourable to the accused ; for no man so warmly given in every part of the kingdom, that would credit that t any Peer of Parliament could be so it was impossible for Representatives to mistake the base as to withhold from her the benefit of any doubt sentiments of their Constituents. The Right Hon. in that mode which he would have extended to her Gentleman had said, his Majesty's Ministers were at in impeachment. But if impeachment had been last placed upon the high ground of experience; yet adopted, would it not have been necessary, for the he believed they knew the evidence they bad to offer purpose of divorce and degradation, to follow it by before the proceedings in the House of Lords. If a Bill like that which had been resorted to in the first that was so, they did 'not want experience at the instance? On these grounds, he was decidedly in commencement of the accusation—(llean, hear). — favour of the proceedings as they had been instituted. Since the conclusion of the Queen's trial, he had so:. With respect to the general argument, if ever an ex lemnly entertained an opinion that her Majesty was post facto law could be at all authorized, it surely not guilty. Before the trial, he was disposed to give must be to visit such crimes as were clearly defined support to the accusation, believing that the Queen by the laws of. Goo and by the laws of the realm, to really was guilty, and that it was.necessary to drive meet such a case as this of the Queen of England— from the Throne adultery and immorality. The *re ( Hear, hear),—which was one of great State ne- suit had proved his first view was erroneous. The in cessity. If anything could justify a departure from troduction of the Divorce Clause proved the miscon the usual coarse of administration, it existed here.— duct of Ministers. They knew that it could not be Never, therefore, was there a greater necessity, though agreed to ; and he might ask, whether there could the Honourable Gentleman had heard no word of be a stronger manifestation of immorality than the it. never was there a greater necessity than to pre- act of introducing a divorce into a case wherein no vent adultery and high treason being installed on the individual could fairly ask for a divorce? This was Throne. But the Honourable Gentleman had told the general charge be brought against Ministers; but them there was no danger to the succession in the he was prepared to contend, that they ought to have crime, and that if committed, it was in the midst of proceeded by impeachment. That course would have the Mediterranean. If he believed the crime had given the Queen the benefit of a verdict, declaring been committed at all, did be think it lessened the her guilty or not guilty ; but notwithstanding her danger of holding it up as an example to all that Majesty had been acquitted under the operation of graced Britain in its female character—did be think the - Bill of Pains and Penalties, there was still a dis it weakened the argument, that it was committed in position to consider her guilty. The Noble Lord sup one place rather than in another ? It was no matter ported the motion for censure. to him (Mr. Peel), and he held it to be of utter indif-. Mr. HORACE TWISS said, that as one of the fereirce to morality and to the country. Ministers majority en the former division, he wished to ex then, in their offer to the Queen, and in their agreeing' plain the reasons of his vote, especially as on an oc to the wishes of the House of Commons, appeared, casiou like the present, where the Queen was not 60 far from having been actuated by a base desire personally affected, - he could not for a moment appear for office, to have made a sacrifice of their personal to be acting as an advocate against her. The outcry feelings, and almost of their ossn consistency in about the Liturgy had been raised, not by the Queen order to avoid the necessity for that exposure of herself, who originally seemed comparatively indif. which they were now accused—(Hear, hear, hear). ferent about that matter, but by certain distinguished The same motive had let.l to the offers afterwards persons opposing the Government—(Hear, kear).— reAde to her, which he could not characterize as un- This was the first time he had presented himself to the wire but indbruitate. Ministers had adopted the House, and on that account he presumed the cheering les:er evil. They had every reason, which a know- was friendly. They, long before she took this ob ledge of the human mind, and of the common rules jection, had suggested and propagated through the of human action could give, to believe that their country this promising topic of complaint. In the. offers would be accepted ; and could he now turn communications and negociations which followed round, instructed by eveets, and censure them for her arrival, suggestions had indeed been made for doing that, the consequences of which no man could the restoration of her name to the Liturgy, but the have foieseen. NVould those who most blamed the earliest requisition to that effect by her negocia di.closeies that had been niadc, also blame the Go- tors. made as it was for the first time after six vetnrueut for the exertions they had made to avoid 'days of tre4yi. wee accompanied with an Walk. -;----- =MRCS always spoke on the side of p p t . but constantly contrived to give his vote i n t h e of Ministers ! One of the most respectable Town Meeti ngs witnessed in Belfast, was held on Thursday l er ag, suant to a Requisition, signed by upwards cif hundred Merchants, Manufacturers, and other ;4 4 tants, when an Address to the K I tG uas unanime% agritd to, imploring his NIAJI:sry to b an i s h fro his presence his present perniciou s ad v i sers; another to the QUEEN, congratulatin g h er 04 ti iumph she has achieved ov er her enemies; also Petitions to both Houses o f Parliament, pro;; them to adopt measures to put an end to all persecution of her Majesty. Nearly two I 5 44 i persons were present. The Lis/ man contains alt., report of the proceedings, which were not m ore d Z i tinguished for their good order and deem th 4 fur their ability and intelligence. We re zu the extent of our Parliamentary Reports, n i g h t afitt night, leaves us without any p rospect of !Alit room for these proceedings in our columns, The Paris l'acers of Fr;day arrived last night. under the Thursday's head, coat.ins the talk:wi ll • on intelligence: " The researches malt to discover the ar.thors of th e e m r „ , nal enterprise which took place at the Thuilleries,h,m i , r i irn rise to suspicions against au individual named Nem: ter was issued for his apprehension by the Judge of Prow was fallen in with this day about two o'clock, in a tabri,g et , 4 one of the streets of Paris, aad was conveyed to the tore of l'olice, before the Commissary appointed to doe, the procea verbal of the arrest, and to proceed to the k e miti verification of the papers and other articles which ke a: 1 / 4 1*k m , had in his possession, in order to his being immediately te r m fore the Judge of Process. At the moment, whet:a mmo , a Peace Officer and two Inspectors, this individsal wa l k s , to enter the office of the Commissary, and Was Fin g a l the narrow passage leading to it, he, by a movenlcat so apkh e that it was impossible to prevent it, cut his throat with anec e l which he had concealed in his clothes, and instantly cipher , French Five per Coos. Thursday, ,311. 75e, The Paris Papers of Saturday also arrived this foresaw. Neveu, whose arrest and suicide we have noticed sbn, , i said to have been a bankrupt merchant. Ile had plinked ' the same day as the explosion, twelve pounds of gunporde o t different places, and under 'different disguises Th en found in his pockets a whitish powder, supposed to be pi ; and a sash, contair.ing a considerable sum in gold. Re As native of Rheims. Another individual has been arrested by the Polite, WA, ther on account of the gunpowder ell:le:ions, or bestia l / matter, is not known. Accounts from Vienna, of the nd January, state, &slid Srawater set out on the night of the 2 1 st and 22d Alas**, French Five per Cents.—Friday i 82 francs, 35 testa The only further accounts which we have tereived fur* the natural convulsion at Oporto, of which we yestniiris seated an indistinct notice, are contaimd in the folluvirX eaot from the Exeter Gazette of the 3d inst. " By the packet which reached Falmouth on Tsedayhs, we have accounts of the city of Santarem havinsbeceridteill a dreadful rarthquake, which destroyed considerableptiatyi houses, plantations, der. The letters are written is them hasty manner, but contain very frightful Farticulatt !inthq the shipping are ashore, destroyed or dismasted. Ors Gab man's house, including the inmates, has been compitubst lowed up, and remained enveloped in seven fathoms of mitt; whether any lives were saved, does not appear, but it ibis! such is the case, the letters being silent upon this avrfidnes Lion. The greatest possible consternation prevailed when 6 packet left, and all business was suspended. Abont•s night since, the tide was hither on our coast than ins or recollected in the memory of man, and ill forebodispws indulged by the mariners ; it now appears this woeful wan* befit Oporto at that time." NAVAL. lATELLIGENCE The riles, from Trinidad to Cork, drove on :bore ell on the 29th ult. and it was feartii , Would be wrecked The Martha, dryer, of London, l►as condemnol St tat trlsson, in June, as unstaworthy. Cargo arrived in theism The Echo whaler, tirct‘cc, of I.tsnuton, was wrecked dlit tit of .tpril, on Catu's ShoaL Cttw saved, and an* tort Jackson. The Stannicr packet, hornhuoutk, was off Lisboa* ftZtf Fatuously, Feu. 3.—Wind S.W.-'-Arrived the SW* JOLLY, from Messina. PLYMOUTH, Faa. 4.—Arrived the Prince of WSW, lIMIR WAY (a full ship) in 53 days froth St. Helena, all well Saill the Deux Steers, for Cleertntrg.-. - -Witid N. • PORTSMOUTH Fat. 4.—Wind N.—Passed by the ROM, Sorra, and Thoma s , B rat , f or the West Indies. Anima* Thetis, llunimmox from the Downs; and Montague. EA from Trepani. Sailed the Sir George Cliborne traterol l Deptford ; and Ocean, NPN'em.acr, for the . West Wm. Dem., FEB. s.—Wind N.—Carte down from the Itifsh; night, the Hambletonian, OILBERTSOII, for Sierra Loge; gi Charles, 31a.acht, for St. Domingo. Arrived the MO* Foamier, from Newcastle for Jamaica; Maigaret, Csaeallo 42 days from Demerara; and Argo, PATTERSON, frOlo lsirs Sailed the whole of the homeward-bound for the five Jupiter, Swazi, for Madras-and Calcutta, and the llurietMar seaman, are just come down, and will proceed immediately-. ILsamoaar, Fri. s.—The Good Intent, Paochis, from 10 don for Buenos Ayres, h as s p rung a l ea k. The rtnuaeggr4 the outward-bound have sailed. Martha>, Fri. 4.—Arrived the Margaret, Wll4 lO O /11 Waterford for London, with kiss of bowsprit. Noactu-Smacps, FEB. 4.—111 s Majesty's cutter STRW A RT, has captured, after a chace of five hours, tad l in here, a large sloop, laden with 1300 tubs of gin, and a dry of tobacco. Put in here the Falmouth (Dock - )•at .. t it AmascaoNo, from D e ptf or d t o L e i t h w i t h store s, haws -- upon Bonilylar rock, and by it unshipped her rr.dder, Barer, Frs. l.—The schooner Eliza, of &Lif t from 1. 7. a for London, was at Donaghadee ou the Bth of Mbars has uot since been beard of. By accounts from Jamaica two days later !ban those r! kit Mail, we learn that the Duke of AlaNcoa•rga living, and that hopes continued to be eutataiuro ol mate recovery. • ' The Kt.xo honours Druiry-Lane Theatre withl visit this evening. Hi s AIAJESTY has comm ° i the Opera of 4rta.rerres, —To-morrow his MAJoll will go to Covent-Garden Theatre, where he la commanded 7ireffeh Meg. DIEM 01 On the 2:-'ll ult.-at Rasmus* Lieutenant-V- o n' 0 oyal Artillcry. • LOO I) J N PrututeL and publiabed by I.yryi. K en, riciA. Ti c. Mr.. sion from them, that " it had not before been iti i eluded by name among the heads to be discussed."-L-. Even then so little earnestness was expressed upon the I subject, that in the very same conference, almost in. the same breath, they suggested something else as a substitute in the event of its refusal. And two days afterwards, her negotiators being desired to state dis tinctly whether the insertion in the Liturgy was a sine qua non, answered, that either the restoration of her name, or an equivalent, was a sine qua non. So that this sine qua non of restoration to the Liturgy, which was supposed to have been throughout so ton.: deviatingly insisted on for the Queen, which was re- presented as the one original continuing cause of all,' • and which was made the pretence for distracting this great country, turned out at last to be a sine qua non, beginning in an afterthought, and ending in an alter native : in all probability the first instance ever re corded of an alternative sine qua non—(/fear).—He would impute nothing to any party within the House; but out of it he was sure they would have seen, staring as the main item in every inflammatory list of sine cures and pensions, the annuity which the apathy of Ministers could then have been charged with sad dling Ca the country without a due investigation into the deserts of the Royal annuitant—(linch cheering). The very language of the Address shewed that the Proceedings were regarded by the House as necessary, unless prevented by the Queen's compliances for the words of the request to her were, to spare the House the painful necessity of those discussions. The 'louse would hardly bear to be told, that when they pre sented the alternative of compromise on her part, or discussion on their's, they meant merely to hold out a threat, which, if she possessed the fortitude to dis regard, they would want the spirit to enforce. Then; what had happened since that Address to change the principle on which the House had acted in voting it? .Take the acquittal in the amplest sense, surely it did not follow that the prosecutor must be guilty when ever the defendant is not ? If so, the danger of com mitting offences would be speedily outweighed by the much greater danger of attempting to punish or prevent then' ; and the next question for the House would be rather a difficult one—how they should constitutionally deal with that Committee of the other House, which, on the same evidence, had recom mended the same prosecution ? That man only could consistently hold that Ministers ought never to have prosecuted, who would take upon him to say, that had he seen the evidence fot the prosecution before it was contradicted, that is, in the only shape in which any prosecutor could ever see it, he could have pro nounced the charges, on that ex parte view, to be wholly unfounded ; for, alter the Address to the Queen, which intimated that her compliance alone could save the ne. cessity of the inquiry, it is too late to argue that no grounds whatever could have justified so agitating an inquiry. A ud as to the Queen herself, the casewas mate rially changed by her refusal to comply with the pro posal of the House, and by her demand of a trial. She then became the challenging party.; and though it was just to give .lier credit for magnanimity and bravery in facing accusation, it was not just at the same time to inflame the passions off' the country against her accusers, by denouncing them as oppres-. sors who had barbarously dragged a helpless and re luctant victim to the stake. The honourable Gen tleman then proceeded to argue from authorities that this was not a case in which Impeachment could have been preferred, that process being, he said, confined to the two cases of persons guilty of a breach of allegiance to the Crown, or of a political abuse of any public employment, trust, or fran chise, and their accessories ; and that a Bill was, therefore, necessary, because the only course.— He concluded by contending, with respect to the tranquillization of the country, that the best remedy would be for Gentlemen opposite to discontinue such attempts as the present; since he was convinced that • the middling classes, who were mostly hostile to the late proceeding, were equally adverse to this renewal of the heats which that proceeding had engendered-- (The Hon. and Learned Gentleman, at the conclusion qf his speech was loudly cheered). Sir HOBERT WILSON then rose, amidst loud qpi.e. of ,1 Question, questien!--Adjourn, adjourn!"—which lasted for sonic time. .fit last, Mr. (HWY ISENNT:I7 rose, and moved that the further consideration of thin question be adjourned till this day. Lord CASTLEIih;AGII said, that if there were any object to be obtained by finishing the debate that night, the hour was not so late as to prevent it ; but if the intention really were to adjourn, he must say, that the House had already sat much longer than it usually did on such occasions. The SPEAK V.ll. then put the question of AdjournMent; when the House seemed equally divided. Cries of " Withdraw, withdraw!" were heard. upon which Lord CASTLEREAG II observ►d, that as it appeared to be the wish of several Members to adjourn, he should Out press the Hons.! to a division. The SPEAKER then declared that he thought the Aycs bad it, and the Ilouslimmediately adjourned, at One o'Clock. THE EVEN I NO STA LONDON. TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1821. THE FUNDS. PRICZ OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O . CLOCK Bank Stock 2231 229-3 per Cent. Reduced 731 1 3 per Cent. Cow. 721 i 1-31 per Cent. $2l 4 per Cent. 91f 1-3 per Cent. Navy 1061 Long Annuities 191 15-16--India Stock tt2911 230 India Bonds 415. 421. pre.—Uscheiluer Bilis 51. tis. pre. Cons. for Account 721 73 721. . The Marquis of Tsvisvoces Motion of Censure against his MAJESTY'S Ministers, for their conduct respecting the prosecution of the QUEEN, came on last night in the House of Commons; and, -afters long debate, was adjourned till this evening. Though• the motion was couched almost in the words em ployed by Mr. WiLsEnvoucr., when this business was first qffired to 'the House of Commons—namely, that the conduct of Ministers in these proceedings “ was derogatory from the dignity of the Crown, and injurious to the best interests of the country;" yet Mr. BA NILES, one of Mr. WILBER7IO9CE'S friends, could find masons to oppose the motion, avid that too, though he declared himself contented neither with the beginning, the continuation, nor the end of that transaction r—This reminds us of what occurred on a similar occasinu a few years ago, when it was remarked, by a Member of the House, that Ms. Wm-