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P.littliitigi" PROCEEDINGS. it.;.,..... —'d • _ HOUSE' OF. LORDS, bECEMBER 17. nit LORD CHANCELLOR rook his seai on th e 'Woolsack abort the usual hour, and several Peers att ended. No proceedings took place, nor was any o nnutnication made fro& the sekinittee appointed s o examine the Physicians attending his Majesty; and ;heir Lordships adjourned till Wednesday. The Lords Committees made considerable pro gress in their examination of the Royal Physicians erday, and sat till rather late in the evening. The loet, it is expected, will be in readiness, and pre sented to the House on Wednesday. • HOUSE OP COMMONS. Mr. PUNDAS, u Chairman of the Committee sppointed by the House on Thursday last, to exa mine his Majesty's Physicians respecting the state of h i s m a jesty's health, brought up the Report of the std Committee.. On the Clerk's proceeding to read the Report, it was.moved by Mr. Dumas, and Seconded by Mr. TIERNEY, that the same should not be read.— Agreed to. It was then first moied, " That the Re port should lie ob the table, and afterwards that it s h ou ld be printed,"—Zoth whirk were successively agr eed to. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER - vied, that be bad proposed at their last meeting that t he Report of. the Committee appointed to examine his Majesty's Pity:id:l 4 ns, ishould be given in to the House this day, and that a Call of the House should tike place on Wednesday, whc:n the Report was to be taken into their consideration. On considering,. however, the length of time that must necessarily be taken up in printing•the Report, he had since thought that the House would hardly have sufficient time to examine it before Wednesday, and as there would be a certainty of every thing being ready in time to al low of sufficient consideration previous to Thursday, he wotrld therefore move, " That the House shbuld be called over on Thursday, and that it should form itself into a Committee on the State of the Nation."— He would then propose to the House the three preli minary Resolutions proposed in 1788 : Ist, That do account of his Majesty's Indisposition he was unable to discharge the duties of the Kingly Office. ?.(1, That it was the duty of the House to see that the Kingly eincehe properly tillal.—And 341, That it was necessary to provide for the proper discharge c the same by way of a Bill, to parkthrough both Houses c:Parliatnent. He considered it indispensibly necessary for both Houses to be made acquainted with the opinion's . 6f each other, before he could submit to either the mode of proceeding which he might deem necessary. He viotlld then submit to the douse what he conceived to be a proper outline of that proceeding; and he en treated the House that they would not in the mean time consider it as disrespectful.that4in dfct not give no ice of what he should then bring fotward':.:' On the Speaker puttinrebv question, that the li House be called over on Thursday next, Mr. PONSONEY said, that he was obliged to the thancellor of the Exchequer for the communication of the Resolutions which he meant to move onThurs. il?y. He felt it, however, to be his duty to inform the House at present what were his sentiments on these Resolutions. As to the first proposition moved y the Right Honoarable Gentleman, he believed ere could be no difference of opinion. With respect to the second, there might- be some diffe f ence, but for his own part, he was not disposed to offer any argu ments againit it. With regard to the third,hoWever, he felt it his duty to state, that it should meet from kim with the most strenuous opposition. As the RightHonourableGentlernan, however, did not think proper to explain the particulars of his Bill at present,.' l which would he at present state the grounds on' 'which he meant to oppose it. He could not help thinking that the proceeding which the Right Ho• it curable Gentleman meant tti adopt could not be 'Maintained without degrading the dignity of th* tingly Office. Mr. SHERIDAN wished that the Chancellor II the Exchequer should., in the interval Which would 'elapse before Thursday, take into his consideration what he had this night stated to the House. The tight Honourable Gentleman leaves out all the cir tumstances in which the present period differs from 1786, There was another method for the considera tion of the House, much more constitutional and safe Oan the one which the Minister has proposed. The tight Honourable Gentleman cannot surely have !mown all the debates which took place in 1/88. In the patty heat of those days, many things were said, and much was done, with which he cannot well be ocquainted. He cannot surely have considered the later which the Prince of Wales thought proper to write on that occasion, a letter which does the high tst liwour to the princely heart, and 'which 'contains Inge:news, all of which in his opinion were wan. avarabi:!. In the first two objects of the Resolutions 14repcsed by th e Righ t Honou ra ble Gentleman, he. :11 no doubt all would agree ; but in endeavouring I° supply that deficiency, with every security for his 1 . lajesty' s safety, there were two modes of proceed- Flag ; and he believed; that the mode which he should Pter.ose was both plainer And better than that propos. *4l by the Chancellor of the Exchequer. There war li ;recede:it, which since the Union with Ireland it teas equally proper for this House to look up to, the )rece:.ent of the Irish Parliament in 1788, which 'voted an address to the Prince, that he would be pleased to take upon him the Regency, and express , jai; the confident cf both Houses of Parliament; that' the Prince would consent to such resolutions and li. saitations as to these Houses should seem Meet Ha "0-1 d propose to the House the precedent of the Re. tr ..olution, *hen the Cron was o ff ered to Ring Wit.l Baru on his declaration, that he would accompany the eaereign power with such litnitations as might be judged necessary for the security of the subject. This mode was adopted by the best patriots of the day, and Ivas not such a mode of proceeding fully sufficient for the right s an d lib ert i es o f t h e su bj e ct t! The Right Honourable Gentleman will in adopting it attain his object with the cordial and unanimous ctesent of all parties, wi t h out d egra d at i on o f t h e ki ng l y p o wer, and without throwing any reflections on a Prince descry 'di). dear to the nations Mr. STEWART made an observation, which was Ip arceV male in the gallery ; but Ws undetitood • .• . ... . , ) • • him to infroie of 'the precedent la4eliiiinnri the Irish Parliament in 17881 *lllll w bilin alluded to by the last si • :kit. .The CHANCELLOR. of thii EXCHEQUER said, that he felt it necessary to ,trouble the House. with one word, in answer to what had fallen from gentlemen opposite, and in explanation of what he had said. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Pon sonby) had expressed his thanks for the candour of Ole statement that had been made in the first instance. He (Mr. Perceval ) returned his thanks in a corres ponding mender to that Right Honourable Gentle man, for the equal frankness of his statement, as it put them in possession of what view had been respec tively taken by each, on the propriety of the proposi tion he had to submit. He had also to thank the other Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Sheridan) for the explicit statement of his opinions. Whether, how ever, he was not the less obliged to,that Right Ho nourable Gentleman, for not having spared the at.• gument which accompanied that opinion, he shou'd leave it to the House to determine: That Right Ho nourable Gentleman had not contented himself with stating his opinion, but had argued it ; this he con ceived was disappointing the expectations which he , had held forth to the House. The Right Honourable, Gentleman had thought the measure which was about to be proposed to the consideration of the House, to be inconsistent with the doctrine and wisdom la id down and displayed in the letter of an Illustrious Personage in the year 1788. Of that letter and its I merits the Right Honourable Gentleman was more competent to decide than he (the Chancellor of the Ex- . chequer) could possibly be (Hear.) It was a compo sition which, no doubt, reflected high honour on the Prince, who was the author of it ' • but as far as he could charge his recollection , that letter did not dwell at all on the manner in which the power was granted, hut was confined solely to the particular conditions and circumstances, limiting the power itself, so that he could not see how he could be charged with ne glecting or acting in opposition to the contents of a letter, which did not at all relate to the proceeding in question—there was nothing had fallen from him that could justly lay the grounds of such an infe rence. 'He had indeed avoided entering into any de tail on the present occasion, and the example set him by the Honourable Gentleman should not even then tempt him to do so. He was, however, anxious to guard them against the erroneous notion which the Right Honourable Gentleman seemed to have fallen into, of his having entered into any detail which he had Wished at present toavoid- Leaving it then under this explanation, as to his having attempted to go into any detail, he should merely add, that with re spect to the : is/receding itself, he should, on the ap pointed dayisendeavour to persuade the Committee, that the measure which he should have the honour of proposing, Couldliot prove either derogatory to the Royal dignity, insulting to the Prince .of Wales, or inconsistent with the integrity of the Constitution.— These, three objects were the grounds on which the Right Honourable Gentleman rested his objections to the measure which he should have the honour to propose to the House, and he did not despair ofbeing able to shew that that measuro, so far from having any tendency to insult the feelings of a Prince, whose ho nour and whose interests were as dear to hini as to any Member of that House, would be better calcu lated to secure the Majesty of the Throne, the true interests of the Prince of Wales, now and at all future times, and the true principles of the Constitution, than the mode which had been recommended by the Right Honourable Gentleman. Mr. ADAM said, that though he admitted that the statement of talk! Chancellor of the Exchequer had beeri sufficiently candid, as far as it had gone, yet he did not think the Right Hon. Gentleman had gone far enough, by merely stating, that he meant to move the date preliminary Resolutions of 1788. He said, the question before the House regarded the mode of supplying the present deficiency of the Regal power by a Regency. That without explaining the nature of the measures which the Chancellor of the Exche quer meant to found upon the concluding Resolution of 1788, it was impossible to understand the question. It was quite clear so far, that the Right Hon. Gen tleman meant to proceed by a Bill, the unconstitu. tioaal course that was adopted at that period. But in order to have the question fairly before the House, it was necessary to know what that Bill was to con- , tain, what limitations or restrictions of the Preroga tive was to be propoied, and every particular respect ing them: He said that the true Constitutional line of proceeding was by Address—that that Address should be founded on Resolutions ; that by this mode of proceeding, as the notice of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Ponsonby) clearly conveyed. no restrictions could be intended by him, but that the Chancellor of the Exchequer's communication kept the House en tirely in the dark as to his future measures, and did not put the matter on a fair Tooting, to as to give a clear understanding of the subject to those who were to deliberate and decide beween the two modes of proceeding: That from this imperfect eommunica tion the Right Hon. Gentlemass was obliging the House to take a leap in the dark. Ile said, that tides the Resolutions to address the Prince to take upon hiffiself the Government in his Majesty's narnshi there would be Resolutions incorporated into, onto accompany the Address, which would secure his Ma jesty's person being plated under such care, and pro tested by such regulations; as would ensure the King's , return to the discharge of his Regal functions the mdment that he should be in a capacity to discharge them. That when these Resolutions, formed into an Address, were presented to his Royal Highness the Prince, the *securities for the fulfillment of them by futtire statutary provisions would, as his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Sheridan) had said, be placed on the Very basis on which the liberties of the people were secbred at the Revolution. He said, he had given the fullest consideration to the grounds on which he had acted iii 1788, and had ,reviewed with Much anxiety all the arguments, and learning and authors ties, Which that period had afforded--that he was perfectly convinced now, as he had been then, that Address was the true constitutional course I that all limitations on the PrerogatiVe art unconstitutional ; that the Prerogatives of the Crown were trusts for the benefit of the people ; and that they could not in the person of a Regent, any more than in the person ►of a King, be' abridged, impaired, or limited in one single point, without a violation of that mdst sacred Kr:4oe. That in whatever shape the question came, &Vs, es nub an atteltpt tits most strenaout iiopositica, ' int' tie for the in& reason he stould on Thursday best givellikent hearty concurrence to proceed td Address the Prince on die plan prciposed by Mr ranionbr.. Mr: Adam olds that it apleared to him to be intipossible that when adjournment had succeeded adjottroment—that 'when , the Right Hon. Gentleman hid so much time to reikt vu this most Momentous thbjeet, he should not, in this the most momentous crisis of English history, have made up his mind upon the whole course of proceeding, as well as upon the Resolutions which he had announced for Thursday. He must repeat, therefore, that the House ought now to be informed of the whole of his plan, without which they were crippled in their opportunity to consider what was fit to be done in a motaient of such anxiety, and in a question of so deep and in teresting a nature. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed, that although he had, as he thought. stated his intentions very distinctly on this question, yet his Honourable and Learned Frignd appeared to have so much misunderstood him, that he found himself under the necessity of giving some further estplana tion. His Honourable and Learned Friend must certainly have forgot what he (Mr. Perceval) had said with regard to the course of proceeding which he in tended to adopt. He (Mr. Perceval) had said that he meant to propose on Thursday next the passing of certain Resolutions in the Committee, .an the State of the nation, and that it was his intention to lay be-' fore the Committee on that occasion the measernl which he proposed to found upon these Resolutioits, if they passed, as fairly and openly as he should stxte them When he came to submit to the House the adop tion of the measure itself. This he had distinctly stated ; and if his Honourable and Learned Friend thought that he (Mr. Perceval) should have taken ari l earlier and a different time for tike communication,' yet his Learned Friend would give him credit for having, before he came there, well weigh ;.`d in his , mind what was proper for him to do, and that it was not very likely he should,be persuaded to give way at this time to his Learned Friend's argument. Mr. WHITBREAD remarked, that it the Right Hon. Gentleman had made up his mind on the sub. , ject, he could not believe that there could be any ob: jection to the desired communication. The only con clusion, therefore, he could come to was, that the Right Hon. Gentleman had not yet made up his mind with regard to the course he proposed to take —for it was hardly to be imagined but the Right Hon. Gentleman would have communicated if he could. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then moved, that the Order for the Call of the Hour should be postponed from Wednesday to Thursday, stating, that on the latter day it was intended that the call should certainly be put into effect. He also proposed that the House should, on its rising, adjourn till Thursday. AittkOATri, .13ireitvillit it. k ,.• . hate lusk harsiitiZery iew with iveriftttels light piling man, of respectable connections in Chit place, who had b rn shipwrecked, and Jande on Sunda*. • He gives the ft flowing inelarlelioly 6r rative, every particular of which receives the fullest ; credit here sailed in the George, of Aberdeen; Captain Robertson, from St. Andrew's, in New Bruns. I wick, North America,' with a cargo of timber, for Aberdeen. On the 25th November last, about $OO miles front the coast of Irelanfi, they fell in with the Lord Duncan, of Leith, from I'ictou for Leith, a to tal wreck, and neatly going to pieces. The mere, six in number, had been tan days and eleven nights on the rigging, without any thing to Cat or drink, lixcept salt water. The first and second mate had been wash-. ed ovci board. A boy, overcome by fatigue, had fallen from the rigging, and . .vas killed ; when, dread, lid to relate ! part crhis body was devoered by the remaining crew ! My informer assured me, that the Capraia of the Lord Duncan, whenteken on board the George, , shewed him his (the captain's) share of this horrible repast—part of the lad's dsigh 1 upo.t which he was to have fee, had ehey not been speedily relieved. So compktciy were they emaciated end over come before they were taken on board the George, that three of them died a few hours after their deliverance. Shortly after thus discharging the duties of humanity, the George was struck by a heavy sea, about 400 miles ficnn land. She became unmanageable, when they, in their turn, were fallen in v. ith and_relieved by the Diana, of Dundee, from Quebec kir Dundee. After having kept company with this vessel for three days, pumping incessantly, the George became water-logged ; in consequence of which' the crew were received on board the Diana on the Ist of De caliber ; one of them *as lost in pailsifir. front *e • wreck to the vessel. The Diana passed 'this pert on Sunday, and landed the sufferers, worn out. 4 ith Ludships mid fatigue. The George, durjegher voyage, passed two other wrecks ; one of them be longing to Whitby, tame unknown ; the crew sup posed to have been picked up. The otheeloi New castle, cargo timber ; all soils spent : the crew still on boards she kept company with the George fQX some time, but parted from her in a gale. il~. Z . •, ; %vol. /* -ft: , A fleet from Malta arrived at Gibtaitar on the 21st of November, hound to Englarki. The Lady A rahella packet sailed from Malta Sth November, and 'the Princess Mary ditto on the Ilth, both bound for England ; but neither of them have yet at rived - . - A Swedish galliot, with it vainable cargo front Buenos Ayres, detained by the MANILLA,. was re leased on Saturday at Portsmouth, and sailed imme diately for Stockholm. The RIFLEMAN, Captain Deers t anii - Posted), ar rived on Saturday afternaon at Portsmouth, from Bermuda, in 17 days. Admiral SAWYXR, Tn the BeLvintota, arrived there enitie 26th ult. Sir Joan. Waimea; was hourly expected, on his return w Eng land. The Dniven, Captain Uvita, also arrived at Portsmouth on Saturday, front Halifax. She sailed PLYMOU rH, DECEMBER 16. on the 9:11 ult. and from Pasamaguady on the 24111. The TIRfAN brig of war, bound to Corunea with Neither of the ships bring any newt. Antonio Maria, from Teneriffe to I on,' -r has been cut a convoy, has put into Falmouth a complete wreck, ot:t r o l 7 Ushanr, by the boats of the Meadow' glt, 'and arrived A having been run down in the night by a transport t Plymouth. under her convoy ; her masts were carried by the The Transit, Vanr, from Hayti to Stnernab Is totter WU Haneasa. board, her aide stove in, and otherwise so much dame- . . i •The Maria Antcmia from Liverpool co Teorttffe. lc ged as to be scarcely able to keep above water. The !in Treni.!,y Channei, a ' n4 ais fespia will 6 wrvektd. e ,s C i ll i arlotto, from Lofoten to Cork, is tot dly loess** NORTH STAR sloop of war, is ordzred from this port . ; A L'!" to take charge of the TyitlAN'S convoy. Went out o f The Anna Cathet-ina, HoEnland, Praia Liverpool, bona* harbour, after complete repair, the SCEPTRE, 74 GottenLurgb, was loot the 12th instant near Elsa Pool. ' guns, Captain BALLARD, and the MEDUSA frigate, The Li g htfoot, Borchelt, fibm Americo, bound . Iti. Liverpool, Carn Captain Bowt'xs . The Townsend packet is appointed is ashore in The Farmer's stun Day. Advc , RttA, lrortn Claik in Sitithime" " to sail from hence with the mails for the Windward was driven on shore near Biddeford, on aruroia. Islands, on Friday next, the 21st instant. Came up The Almeln, Barnett, from Philadaph:a to Portugal, kat near Aveiro. harbour the Psaconic sloop of war, Captain PEAK!.; Tli"" e Witham' —, from Lltb'i ta- Liverpool, Is lost op ttes. Sailed the Favouring sloop of war on a cruize ; man of port4d, • . i the Carteret packet, Captain DAVEY, with mails for The Barton,-.41; if Elanrwleh, from Pkitadelplsia, it 10 . 1,01 l Cadiz ;:and the Prince Ernest packet, Captain Psraa, Oporto Bar. '-'• ' The !ohn Eva, team, from Hayti to London, was taken the with mails for Jamaica. The latter in working out von ,a tu to per, and lorded into Passage. cif Hamoaze, got on shore on Wilderness Point, A Mrs. Richardson, along with a sailor named, Monnt-Edgcumbe, where she now lies, but will be Carrick, in an open boat, sit off on her return from 'Tot off without damage, at high water, and will pro b selling goods on board the Woodlark docp of war, in Grimsby Roads, on Thursday, the affth ult. about sts teed on her voyage. ' o'clock in the evening ; but through the incapability PORTSMOUTH, DECEMBER 17. of the fellow in managing the boat, and his mistaking Arrived his Majesty's ships SARPROON and Linnrr, the Spurn lights for the fights in-Grimsby, they drift from a cruise ; and the SitANIROCK, with a mail from. ted out of the Humber, and after that about fifteen Halifax. Sailed the ROMAN, SAT2.I.I.ITE, and Rt. lea g ues tO seas In this situation, out of sig h t of land or vessel bf any sort, the boat very leaky, and Meta 1(Al.DO l on a cruize. . DEAL, DECitiVIEER 15-17. cold, as the boat required as itteessaat bailing, they Arrived his Majesty's ship DEFIANCE, from a cruise continued until Friday afternoon. At that ume, te off Flushing. Sailed the ROSA am sloop of war for their extreme joy, the masts of a 'vessel appeared in sight; at a great distance ; she approached, however Sheerness. Arrived the FLY sloop of war, from a very fast ; but no sooner got in sight of the boat. that, cruize, and remains in the Downs with his Majesty's 1 mistakin; her for an enemy's gun boat, she made pd' ships as per last ; and the Leacesoree, Commissioners' again. Ihe situation of Mrs. Richardson and het yatch, Captain SYlteson, going out to the West In- companion was now dreadful indeed:l night wave dies on a survey. Wind W. , coming on, all hopes of being picked up had vatitshetS, J. a. - their boa " -in a inking state, it seernedlmpossible thl SHEERNESS, DECIIM'BER 17. - ! Wald wiather the storm another twelve hours. Taet • Arrived the Locust , from Chatham; and die Ito- saihir having a handkerchief in hie poeker, tied it oh SARIO, from Yarmouth:-The Lunar American brig, the mast head of the boat, which the vetted that was Capt. RAY, from Ramsgate, and the Austen, HAPPE. sheering off no sorner saw, than 010 returned, and mans, front Quebec, have also arrived: picked them up; they were hatched at bridlinvaem oil Wednesday last, and arrived saf, , ly at Vrimilip, HARVACH, DECEMBER 16. , having been absent five days. Yesterday the neutral ship Undermehmeng, with • DISTRIBUTION OF r IUZIg MCalr.V: deals; from Christiana, bound to London, arrived The EmeitALo, for k Belle Etoile, captured itfirch . Igo, in this harbour, with the assistance of three fishing wiu be paid on board, on irrival in port; Ind mil Wirt 67. The For c e: Plynsouthabelt. , . • smacks; having lost her atichors and cables, and 14111;i e for the French frigates Pie,itide, k•II . otherwise sustained considerable damage: - !Indefatigable, end It Gloire, captured Septembe r _ ,g. 4 1110,5, will be paid the 26th Instant. at. No. 70, Great lti seil-nstrie:, LEITHi DECEMBER 15. Bloomsbury, London, and there recalled. ' • Tuesday sailed from the Roads his Majesty's Fria The NTNIPIII, for the Pine arty captured a , ti;e Muds ' town std fort of Chinsuralt, th the East Indies, In the veal' 1781 vrilkoo gate VENUS, Captain *Kenzie, on a cruizej ; and on paid the- 90 1 1 1 i nsta nt , at N o . 29, tioraaa-s• • yit ' and Thursday his Majesty's brig Cuineens, Capt. PACK- tbeA•err . 24'a. ac and pah D i ai t t hi t e Nt st fo i r fte th . e al Ml ai nerv e, a, captured ' rn a, WOOD, for Sheerness, with a convoy of five sail of yes- T h t e Boo . , :ill andthcre ILA sels from Archangel bound to London. • The Stag- The Linnet/T. for le 'll!fit pii7ateer, captured May 1,11108,11 p be paid tbe tillth instant, a. No. 9,"Ntw Brari.s trea lt, and th a re NUouS gun brig sailed yesterday morning on a cruize ; rccntoi. and the AMIABLE ligate went into Bumtisland dock The SPAAKLEA, AtCIILI, and BAUlltiti for the Muhl testa to be repaittd. Epaculante, captured Anguit 28, 1 W47,181/1 be Fiki and rind as above. The Friendship, &TAW, with fruit from St. M. The Blunts, for the Danists vessek Cellists,* Vet ItTiltlil, H. clines, in l 3 days, was towed into Portsmouth on bet, and Emanuel, saptured mann 28.111417;will is t wat Saturday by a pilevboat, wiOthflom at all het sails, ligiark. above. '- • 1, . . Both motions were agreed to, and consequently the House adjourned till Thursday. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. .~ , t 1 . , . . , , 1 , I i t , . . . . ; i i i 1