Star. — London, England, 1810-06-06 00:00:00

C I. • et 10121 4 f 4 ghoul: . s i fi glisitostembirvitetitioai .;* 1.. AireNiaIITBILICAD ti. .s 3, : t eV • Otaildieipart , eldest _ apparent. .4 eouldavoid by the • delivery of my -co qu... prom_ lotise refusing . inquire? I,4iaeioos, which are in my possession ; but i feel so Certainly not. Strong ground for iefereticethat the ti ebettlefit at the imputation on my title and my birth,' allegations were true might be the result, bat the facts olega prefer the present mode. It is in my power to would still remain unproved. The particularsris -t4lced the 7 House•every information it may wish. on Vances 'which the Electors complained of war known, w thetseibijeet.".. ,, (Heer,, Agar.) • .to them at the EleCtiost* and a long time bell:ire-it .It;. r stir*. WHITBR.EAD explained to Mr. Swan, thit 'they were bound thee p have made the 'objection, 41ie did not mean in*ny respect to find fault with his which they. now• did, at' i ttie Election.. The particu-••• t ooncloct, but merely to be informed how far he was lar grievance wa§ a guesnen telate4 entirely to. Parr. eiroottisinted with the situation of the petitioners? • liament, unless it was intended that the interterenCe .KENRIC thought it was not right to intern:). of Parliament should be eirebniscribed by any body' o gineterny44tunieet.as •to the grounds on which he - of Electors. The 'Hhitsethereforn were bound to ea.l . Are4ht ht.a. petition, put into his hands, and withn erase its' discreticnn eh ! feeeiviei, the Petition coil; .11Wiest that hewbblci-present it. • %),- ceiving • that unreal:4oinch 'would go unred;essed„ b et: hike:WYNNE differed *kith the last speaket.en but that on the other hand Much hardships, cruelty, ,thamseist, and appealed to the Speaker, whetherit and•slinder, would lie experienced by the Noble fa-. (Aoki* necessary that every Member who brought up roily,_ if received. kie would vote' or the rejection. Abpyltitioa, should be able to 'say it was the petition of the Petition. ' • . , eittere.wha signed it, and .should inform himself as to The CHANCEI.IO_kof the EXCHEQUER. •-theliroth of the allegations contained in it ? agreed ielth his Friend as to thelharsi t ,-,nut SPEAKER said,. that any Honourable Mel* ships rind delieeey• (tithe question,,but he.wOuld con _ Ater : who presented a petition should be able to settle the vote , for he tholiglit the la* . 0 the land *filtered it to be the fetition nf those who signed it t . !Vas : imperative al to thepedtia Ring received, stat e' In raw cases it Was impossible to know that the pe.. in& as same for . .,014.1aint. The Holt!" ;Worms had:. sikned •it 1 .-croo forbid any petition lout& witise its discretionrit i hii4 beep' agreed oet Sgt ld be kept back on that account. • ... ahead: that. the I'etiticiti chMe tinder the meaning skir.NJOHN ANSTRUTHER begged to knew of the Grenville Act, and must thhfefore be taken theHonourahte Gentleman, whether he meant intncimsiderititiO. • * • • terfolOot Ophisisementanotion with any other step ? SMI T H eras:Of 'opinion the Horne coklit. • . ME.:;SWAN taidohe bed aheadYtold . the 'Howie ejltertifin •adtieredtmary'power, and should . eoe foe, tiolreassot which had induced Min to present the pr... injection. • • . • • • eition a.,114 hadenovetl that it do lie en the table; and ; 4 The Meuse then divided- 7 roi referring the iseti.) iiitheAledleagreed to le t they might do then with. titin.44s--Againsfit 91—Majeiity, against it 45.: rev peter they pleaieck • ' • - • • The Petition w;s of course rejected. ...• • • Sir S. ROMIIA.Y•asked the Hon: Gentlemanlike, i • • Pektrettriaßy HOUSES. , . • same tjuistion, viz. whether he intended to. ground . Sir S. ROPtiLLY risineptirsuant td' notice, spoke say other motion on it? at considerable length , recommending to the ' House Mr. SWAN answered, that he could net conceive the erection of Penitentiary e ßouses. The adopti • the reastoh why this question should be so repeatedly . ofinets4 Measure he thought would restore many IPA to hint. , Hehad already answered it.two or three. s6tiety, who would otherwise never reform. He con , %mem:, AO 'Was surprized Honoutable Members were: .cinded by inovingan address to his Majesty; praying sacCiatisietwith what he had said. • thatle would begraciously pleased to give directions,_ 4 „§ie ROIti,ILLY said, if he understood the Ho.' thittientiChoftheact of the 19th ef his present Majesty,: nourthie Gerttlentan.correcrly, the House might; it. airelaret •tothe erection of Penitentiary Houses, aft: it su eyed the Petition to lie on the table, take such irin,that of the 34th of the present reign, 'be son akdaey should - think proper. That, howeier, befoie'the'House.. .yfaCtlttt auffseient. The Petition contained allegations: • Mr.. SecretarY'RYDEß replied to t h e principal thrliten Hoar Member of that House had not a right".pninis itt the speech of the Honourable and Learned tii4o4tove, and the Noble Lord could not take any ' Gentleman, mid hoped he would withdrasi his motion, gr t hi.e t equrse than that which he had done. As no. and. postpone any further' proceedings On the subject . steps _seere intended to be taken on it by the Honour-. till the commencement of the ensuing Session, when al4e4dember who presented it, he thought it would a Committee could be appointed to consider of the beNatjust in. the House to suffer the Petition to lie on measures best to be adopted. . *tehie,' i where, at any distant period, it might be Mr. ABgRCROMBY wished Mil-roar Frieudto taken up, .aod would in the mean time remain as an persevere, and tti press his motion on the House.: . objeotlisiiesturre to the Noble Lord. He was sure Mr. BATHURST hopedthe House would pledge opebiagof party could mix in a matter of this kind, itself to take the Subject . tetneOnsideration early in' uu btinst rather every one would vote against the Pe. the next Session" . :• • Mr. w L BEIM It . CO . t Wefek titiottfe Wog ou the table. I tfed at length on•the ..r_cisiri,SENßlC said, he could not conceive th at the advantages that woultileselt 'from reforming, while H en... Member who presented the petition was bound ! punishing the offender; and tOkured the House. as' . tointbstantiate the allegations of it. He had not au• they valued themselies 'theakare of th e public thoeity to say it,. bat he believed that Counsel and money; and ten their huittaiiiti t t&support the prop°. witnesses were waiting for that purpose ; and ifitiviati s aititin.dr hii 1116 n. arid . Leatited.Friend. styled to 'by the House that the petition do liii/uptin The . SOLICITOR-GENERAL was much in fa theilandei should move that it be referred tp , M 'ai &Ate plan, but approviil'of the proposition of Committee of Privileges. Right Hon. - Friend i evinCthem time to enter Al:r. TIERNEY objectedio the petition beitlg per. more feltititti'thesisbiett: *. 111 14 ad ..tolie on the - table. How were the House to- Mr. WHIIIIRgAD soripeki'd 'the original ino. . knew the petitioners meant' o prnve their allegations 1-tion, was averse;to aey, delay, and could see no reason —tiowcouldtheyobligethemtoprosecute? They did.ilottheliostpotieinent f . oovitetan to go upon the Gretoolle Act o .under which i• Sir S. R.OIgILLY, in reply, seated.hintself M be Abel( must give security, tuproceed, , bet . to bring the _Lineapable of aciedingto theprepoAtion Qf the Right nromes alledged under the cognizance of die House t rHorrsr. Gentlentae, refer the subject fond: the teiestion Mould not be between Lord Dursley rya A etwirmittle..-;Od'cliticiihg,. the,sleinhers were— :ll44e LlectOrs, which' b a d already been diVared opror the "Modion3e-AgAtinet' 616. . • , bybisis. election and return, hut the, question would I ) • alalinotra AT Npritirerear. 41ainhe between :that House and Lord Dursley. The Mf.'SHARPE, - gtei krtinent.observations elesitervdid-not . say that Lord Dursley had no: a le:l , 4eitirregard - td*e inadeqeaie Siteation of our Dock-, gal quelikutiOb ;'.that Noble Lord had this night told , , yards, and thelleietsity which called for the esta theainse:lhe hid a .1141 qualification; and if to, I blidintern of stneW'D'ock-iird at NOrthfleet moved whehtfhe..wis Ilelegittattate.son of Lord. Berkeley for* AddfeS4jarayink That the 'Fifteenth Report. of or not, 1 e was atill.entitled to a.seat in that Nom, !thiConifuisalpittrs of - NaSralifetilion and the Re , as .111vvirst been eyscrold and ratio lanY'oP - Pdst Istesetiva. to the AdMiralty ceitainzents on po4ifinn, • • .74 , - • " • f the 18th of - Octet, ore the AENIV.O g. 4 . 14, there was documentary evi.; House. •• • r , :" . deligq,MailifotQ be, pladuced, but. he believed they' Mr. YeAlfriimks4d'ioN'til . ly.a*ati_s4 * I? would have occasion to apply for the Speaker's ward! importaneeetihe auhjeet refern'shp TlOniteir: colr.te eern'tlit 'attendance of 'some Others. • I able Ceildentatis iasllllli - solsjOtfdiAreenmen( w as to . ckt tfetVA *XCAX.C2' Ay* tkeeetir % • -I.That all will& County at Abingdon) , having, teen appointed, for the same day, he could net possibly he Present* Reading,. consistently with his - duty to his Ceellik tuents. With respect to Parlianientary Reform, Itt. pandas desired the High Sheriff to inform kis Coned. tuents, that he had always -voted for that measure ; Rd. as ..to the imprisonment of Sir Ftinch Burdett And'Mri Gale Jones ke stated, that he had never .having been absent from the Het* of Com mons on these occasions, in ctinseqtience of iliness." l letser.concluded with stating, that " as theft! Fatten were now before: Court pilaw, his .ciplitien could be of no conseqnenee.'". SIT JOHN Tunoressisatow, Bart - thew addi edt e Meeting ;--". In rising . to•OtOpoie the adeption of, „certain measures on this 'occasion, I think. It right, : Gentlemen, to remind you, that . ' the . ciierimstance ,which led to the requisition 'for calling the preketti Meeting, and which is.fresh in all our recollcotiOsh originated with one individual Mitrriber of the House of Commons. The evressioni 'foe' which Gale Jones " was imprisoned did not refer to the conduct of . the House uf Commons : it was not what the .House then did that the people complained ofrbut it we; the act of one individual Member, ift shutting Of Gallery nt j the House of Cptnntons, which had outraged the public feelings."—(,Lardiftplauses.) " The question which has originated from this occurrence is of the greatest importance to every subject in the Butpire it is, Whether any body of e'ben—any asitimbly in this country—can declare any words to hia libel, with. out a Trial by• Jury ? If such a tribunal doee.:etist, Gentlemen, then is there an end of our biatatedliber. ties. By the principles of our Constitution, if a libel • has been written or spoken, the pit* ageved must go to the King, or go to the Judgei : lit he accused is proved guilty at the bar, he is to be punished, but not before.' —(.4itiitaire.) " The privileges,' or liather the undue power assumed by Parliament, ate taidlilk have been given them for -the benefit of the people l / 4 . but how can it be for our benefit to take us and 1111/ prison us at pleasure ?—(4fttelame.) I shalt suppose, Gentlemen, that the House of Commons may be at variance with the King upon some occasion : in that case, it would be out of their power to imprison .Gale Jones or any one else. In that case, - would the King stir ? Would the troopcstir ? would the constables stir (Apfilastres.) triraintain,then, that the . Privileges of Parliament are strong only when the Crown and. the House of COmmons act together ; -but when it is ter: quisite to employ them against the Crown they are a. mere dead letter—(Hear, hair:) ;On this subject, . Gentlemen, you will find that great IlOubts have be ef entertained—aye, a nd . among great men and wise lawyers too laugh.) They have bunted every corner for dusty precedents; they have even ransacked the drawers of dead Judges, for stale opinions, all tending ti support the high and mighty Privileges of Parliament; and, how do they now stand, after all this industry ? The Speaker of the Howe of Corn inons is now standing at the Bar of these Judges, waiting the verdict oE a BritishJury—(Hear, hear.) This stretch of power, as it happened, had a great effect on the people. Great numbers became desirous of confirming these powers, an counter•dociarations vette - most industriously circulated the parishes were canvassed for signatures, and every parish vestry be came" a political meeting. But those who are dis pleased with the general sentiments of the country on the subject of the imprisonment of ourfellow subjects still affect to wish for Reform in Parliament. They impute improper motives to us which is not fair ; they say we wish to brithHouse of Commons into con. tempt. (Hear.) Ge ntle men, if there is any doctrine hx our Constitution to which am more attached, and Which more demands our support than any other, it is this, namely, that the House of Commons is the 'bulwark of our safety and our liberties*, and the true barrier of the people against the encroachments of the Crown. So far then from the House of Commons ha tug incurred my contempt, I rather. regret that the Members should have incurred the displeasure of any of their Constituents ; and that regret is the re gret of a child when a parent uses him ill:—(Hear, hoar.) For my part, I shall still respect the }louse of Commons, notwithstanding its vices: I Alan cost. tinue to respect it'while it shows UAW the fiiettil, the.people; and. while it acts as the vigilant Inffisalla6l tor of abuses and prosecutor of delinquents, it is possible to bring it into contempt--(Hear, Yit, Gentlemen, if we see the House of Connioas Commander in Chief, not only of all blame, IstiOf All guiltr knowledge pt improper actions—if ' * x i Oartori4 for Seata in Parliament, , and ailertiNvone and all Olt Sootcw•re openly bought. apd told ! iuid that ttikught . neidtti to excite surprise ' or indi l tnittiv i attiaT .thidatfaiiiitistmus'elPediswel ! Pt I F 4 igh.el'at 044111IleillOt.Qb' not 01 12 uring ,Mift'itt9 - si-,1 1 4 0 111 thei!OondOct- rafter pi -a w , i li t s! ,t 4 l possi* . that. they shoulli.saa into sOl!te awn cOuteurpt - (44jtw4steu)...s4alkhis. It I.4 " v ii7 'c u i l ißilai t r,:al -- trr - ih - i - t - i - eift - QiiEk 1 7- 1.: - ti-- thorny f i l :ig ti .. 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O i rcfme gningS4o , . :fir" „ . - ~4., - .: ; 9.*:•; aillialtpgif t itt , ' : :•! •,c ~ pribttlatives, _ of the ileheidenDie concerned, upon I . -Mt 19 ; :.,... .„ , , .ItAMiuued a sip* fspsjmi f; • 2 .,± 1 1,4. ~. _ - • , -.••.1-...... .t...u,;•./ o , , ,miunit.le-twaised on a• litible.:Lovd s st.Selatien; and 7 01400 it ‘ , • Apjler b .,e, - *****4.oo., ,te*rdAnpoi,..i.m.,,,, .raiejuisideor signed by '470 —ineisiited'if theiaindy knew of:the o . etition ?He an- . of PritileAss:..._" I x i•" I a7e;' . ;'' .. '-'%: 4• • :!.-i....,..- ,: frielsOlders, a itedieroes•and highly respectable Meet- - 0,01,401 they: bad heasid of • it ;- and in consequente' of - , The SY.Ettri t .*.ktie tiMeliuetekii•feel4eingshe iat ofthe CventleMeni t Clergy, Freeholders, and inha. joitiMatUtiaing certain Wlegation‘ btr.advised him not petition,' when . • • - _,•. . 1 .,,,,,,, : ibitantik of Beticsitire Omit place at Reading. At one lo phpregent it to. the House. •in .-1 • subsequent - and The sol„rgrca3.,p . • . L imp, . peepi j iftet .0'44E14 .the Town Hall was completely crowded,. L ; at;.: conversation, .in which Serjeant Test par.. stating his ophiioli'ivon **city otatiendingte when Mr. GazeN, the High Sberill;was unanimously , 4iersed,-, it ..,*m again decided that the Petirioh ' iheißyiti, ;Ol - ; the 'Petition on, the ground of jastiet i . called to tale Chair. . ; „,:, ,t, !. •,:... , bt4bltilid not be presented. He had shelm it to the most I'moverl. 4'4 041441meuttltatr-!..A 4 .The Petitiou!be Ise. • The Hunt Siemer oPened the holiness with ear- -I., l l9fAs t -btembers on the other side 'of the'House ; he .• fencd to ; _„,..the Cot:limit* Of Prikaeses.". . •., .- ; • neatly temindiig the Meeting, thatlowever Gentle. TiblkiNG personal object, nor did he know what course Mr. CANN,ING haCcomellexablusliffitullyon the mee might differ from each.other in opinion, all pm- ,: entUatto. , 1 . subject The inncticaliluestten for the Irotwelo de- . 110; 'were entitled to be heard with. equal attention. Lord DURSLEY said; that to pitevent his words termine Was; Tilk;here.nt s chilerence-so . cOrtain °Fear .He then stated, that he had that morning received a ~ Crow. being misrepresented,' he bad committed to pa- 'tionet‘,tbejt oipulsl .enter . into tho.lealensiry, which lc froarbir. C. Donde:, one of ,the County Mean. ; i:-.. . per 'what he should now read to the - HOttse, and which :from all that had transpi red, . could not be satiifictory betirtO apOlogive for,his non.attendEnce. L was,in substance as follows :•••44, I ails authorised by lin the result the Pitmoners.• On the other 11E41; Ili' lis letter Mr. Dundas stated, 64 that the corn- ., : My lather, the Earl of Berkeley, to assert, that lam the enquiry s ight prejudice , the Noble j..osti. la his !flitter of the House of Commoni on the Assessed, ti•his eldest O . This M. and heir apparent. is declaration rights. Wou the riglits'or ally individual be„com- Tases Ali (which had originatedin the last Meeting _AZ eould-avoid by the • delivery of my landed quell& promised in the event of the HOnse refusin g to inquire? of the County at Abingdon }' having been appointed pew . would ___ *gain, '-be tt &ore Widely:extendecidifftisitat of the Comfits , Parliamentary Representatioh—(ffear.)4, o o 4 40 . ther point he would stand but for NO oer r i tan i a i Parliament! ; these, he said, charade-n*l . of. roost Thrious zra in the History bf the Briti s h Coostio t i oc is part of the system of 'Reform would U ,*nin . duce a happy union between the p % a „ p eo ` p l e. and produce peace - and harmony Pu*gbout the land."—The Honourable 13aronet sat *wit sratcht loud and long continued applauses.., . ,„ ~ The proposed Pciitions were then Itsifef, ; ~ . Mr, Goomatte seconded the Motion :144 Short,* energetic speech. He had leii occasion, he said, to .occupy their time, as the business on which they . tett assembled had been:sty-4W and so perspicuously opened by the worthy Baronet Who had now sat dm". He.would say, howeVer, as tb the poier aunt*, or arrogated i by the Houk Of Conimons, if the.rigla s of the subjects and the Charieri of their liberties inn to be abrogated by a 'power which no pervi Ling any thing of, then' indeed. Were our liberties in dan. ger. • Before concluding, he world take h a ve tote- Mark that, froth the moderate manner in whicktbe whole business of the day was conducted, hecoeld defy all alandists• and counter resoliumnius. to,thioty reflections on the persons who cdtiiposed the ?4çiing. He. trusted that no person Who heilil iii'm ;vas of opinion that the mouths of the peOple.wervo,/je forcibly shut until they could no longer conduct titsr selves with respect to their oppressors. . • .„:.. . r Mr. GOLDING opposed the meaiures suggenedt. -He objected to the words of ' the requisition. *aide* 'called upon the iaka6itents of• the county-ro atm** present meeting. Weald it not have.bein . ottlkiist to have limited the meeting to Clergy Cosolenies, and .Householders, freeholders of the county 7 4or if they were not competent to the dis9tulon of the pre, sent measures, to whom could We resort ? The word inhabitants, he contended, meant nothing . by t paupers, and eagrantS, who had not A house to puttheir heads in. —(Loud hisser, )-.41e was fir Nit wishieitocast Elie ;want imputation on 'the loiiisi,tainycibe county,. and he would challenge any oPop o f him of having treated any - one, 119wfink, : 1) r hillslble, with the smallest inattentiort.-4 84) With respect tb the imprisonment 4 . ritocis :"Birdett and Gale Jones, he was the' itiont-ip l e • IP 'about counter.declarations; opinion, as somethin g had beentheork,e4 'abbot counter.declarations; and because if his ;m should . appear to any counter.dectiratiothicsjasol4 not be said.that he was afraid to 'appear antisitlak prest his mind in tbis place. His sentiments were , those of Mr. r Duudas, their worthy Repeesetttlik t and, as the subect was before a CourforLatit thought it oug ht to rest there. Nity,lie would el*. ther, and say, that if the House of Commons Wig bound to proceed 'br indictment, When theirprieilsr *ere called in question, then there was an end to M. Oi . . ti of tli* e House of Commons. As to Au* 1, 1 , 1 elf Reform in Parliament, he would say, dun '". • an inllnfnce in the House of COTONOU .. .1 . it was not e fight to see exertised,' but be 6040 the.ifitnit was ia the people themselves. Nay, htv. ' Would ask, did 'they send dishonest men to Perks Insittr4lle4i; teor t )-41e would maintain. that Oro faulitils hot jn . . rotten bOroughs, in placemearila pensfoneri; but in • the people not properly 'their Represeutatives He always thought that Or good 1. 1 man who paid. 3 or'se4ooo for bit seat was as good Member. of Parliament al a Man who came by . ,ft bery,by, feasting, or by entertainm en t s o f any k: f All the correction wanted could be eltected by *Pr • House itself—let no placeman or pentionerhatnik vote there, and then there would* ocros;cotjositta .au interference tot the pan of theysiople....., i,,,,i; ••. .. Mr. Hauer s.iid, that the subject hay been before them twice at Abingdon and . •I he •having on those occasions expressed his,aeotitiklie: he did not think it necessary to detain them lhng ifet any thing he could now offerl 'the Worthy Gentlentais . had said, that they were wrong in c6llogoFiphaliii, tants ; kat such he thought . was; the importance-91v theqtiestion, that every - man who Paid taxes had a , A right to express hir °pi:tient and to be heard. .- ..- Mr.. Got.nrno here explained ; he said, be did 0 1 complain of people Leing 2a/fed who paid tapes; by : of peOple being invited who paid no taxes, as was as- • wally the case by inviting . all the inhabitantstmOcb • he argued wairisconstitutiosial. Mr. HatlinVeOntinuing, observed, that the Wor thrGentleinati had admitted that all those wig taxes ought to have a voice; and he would ask *berg is the person that does not pay tax i es? (4 iamp4 aid irivslaute.) lam sure, if there ire any. such in this Hall, they will have no objection to withdraw. The Gentleman has stated that the question of privilege is now before a Court of Law, . and we have anthilf to de with it. Were thl to be dgiriied of. thew: • personal liberty without inquiry ?. Were they to Vs . I deprived of the rii;lit of trial by jury without.opteill ,l their months against it ? (.4ssiti atia* ) Was the : prosenta.timeto b tpriVe the peop le , of theitaigh:6; • when nto formida atentaly itia overrun the whole itMtg• •- i . •:1 ie. " :.1. • ;• f., --- qi,:•:7 1 17 1 •41 ie. i t t :P ir ,2 9l4 Pot. 4l 44l•Fie . i... .. • ~‘-' •. • -‘ Fcatereat,4*4 • iii4ori*O9 riltra :upwards. afilil9 ' itri ' in t ' fo4h/li dif Plice*en. a4d j'ePinatw i l/111 . V' I .; fiat iiitittilt to aicount_fac the itrange votes thoth oe beeit taelviisHair! /War.) In shost, throg"wghlas lattfli eiccurred , argues fo r a re k c i l - In Intrllakiept: 'llut,l . atiffor no violence in effe tt i a , thi s iefrni. I - ctielil ieksk that of our objets 1144 •bertblemed . with':nisisier4notb--( o' 4 a m eit it 1f tee said "1 1 . geode - men who are n'il 'coni,rarz lopinion, .that, notwithianding the egruptin n i n 14 Houle o f Comm Ons, the Members_ we rally .p a k t the sentiments of, the pe§pg 4 , §4,44.0" d o_ so ie the Duke of York's C3rfli-itx,4l.vilst9,respeasia4 'the sale of Seats in l'a-OnTent=i. . WO Walcheroa quil7—or when they .votettaztattpraknot culpabje a , to buy and sell Seats in rat •, . , k t iy a. from _drisarters.) Thp A R O .. „Baronet thew concNda by =di* . : tc twp Petiti ons prps* ( 4 tlie.first was to, .. - : the House ot e 4,. mime 00Flease Sir frOf4 l • ... sett . and _Mr. Cz 'Jonesll.6k their conin k 'ld to expunge fro l . their Animals. all ihiir on -this-subje F t- .the ieeond pet it ion embraced the sZote,44. mentaty Reform ; and on this pan , 4 :4 that it wainot his intention, *I she 'Mv- %trig ,sto ou t dictate the kind of refOrm 'w1314 i,hi n 0.,, ~ adopt ; hi wished, on the, contrary, thataq-inessaie , of this kind should be carried tlyomkmaAadl, mo- derate,' and temperate 'manlier, and ste4o/51 thou* they should se be entirely left to themyea. Onegrec point, however, which he would :wish ta.gain, !nu m L. • " ..1•.11._.....•11....1' Arar....n...- ...e -i . _