Star. — London, England, 1803-06-24 00:00:00

11 , ~. tear , 14 1 l+ PRuCEEDLN GS. IMUSE OF LORDS, piIIRAOAV, WNF 'it.. A:. x.1.1,1..r . Alttmiield were he. 41,1 ha the emir: • i!f; •71 fttrh.t confk!eration of the entre ' then rtleered till the • July. wben arc tlwir thcreurn. Houle wen: ta:;) a Committ,e tel the Bribery Oath Bi:I; •:‘ I. or %NIA) , rocs. and fated te their Lordfhips, that this r. fiat :ea; fr,n 01: Cmnm aa= tar the pip-pore of ma!‘ing an a!:•1:1!;. in thr eeneral lav: relative to the pr fret:di:T. at lice- I ornl: rly the oaths required to Ib^! tak, nby Idenote the p. , 11, which caned the molt ineonvenieht • th,•12.-turaite: Oflicer; ..nci therefore it wog ,nacted by an •• ,rliovert, that their oath. flenild be adminillercil by I Mon, r v.:izeti for the purpore, before the Fleetors went' t o,re •!; r:. hal,howev r.been ty rapt:fled that - olio ha,: T, the oath again ft brit„ r Nerd corruption at :a. , p;.•••• appointed hrfore the Commirioner hid been met be t u *AI; that pla:eund Inl.,ngs; and had received into their bands f-,nt thole alto wilhed to bias them fmlll pack..ge., enrtainirg, it 14 vulintly Money the Flcelors receiving the fame, -,-;•ol.ng. that larcaufe the breac was given, and by them received, tile) , Lad Oten the oath, that in point of conleienee they were Iy fafe. It had tlicrebqe been thought tiereffary, ii, order to feel.% the : - re....ant atid pori::-of elecition much a• p, frthle. to leak.- pr. r,nt 2•.:1 h.. which Ali:wry oath is owe - tea, to he t-.!:< thr ;r!ae:: of polling, and imisiedistt ly before the tketor give. hi: ewe. The I.otn Cu.tt CEI.T.Ca faht, that if thisiii 1 had been brought in or any ratter of' mem coot:Tapia:4ln. he iliould have thought it a very had rev but the ff.:l WaS.:ll,t :rime of bribery to an amazing ..vtax,t, had in this way hecu perpetuaLd at the crecl len Ttic i bite tben reatmcd. and the tin cat ordered tc he rad a third time. lo a Cv:,nirre on the Bill for regulatirg the conduetnr juftices of the I' , _ce in granting indernroy in cafes o:informal conyidlion, lord I'lle•thol.rgii tel rohateil the Bill as tending to endanger the prop.i::„ - s :to., !,Oertigs of the fd'tje.:l, as no appeal was grimed teem t!..ir s...c:i.on to the luprtme Courts of Juilizature. indeed be net:: c.:neeiyed that it could be the intention of the Noble Aloy, r th.lt thc 11111 lhould pal. in its relent &ape. Upon inquiry i”t‘. the ex t. nt of t he grievances complained of, he found, t hat daring the fuzee of feven years not more than twenty-fix cafes bad occur red thronAhout the whole of Engl.md, and that of thefe,feventeen bad been quathed. He should therefore move, that the whole of the claufes. except the lath, be oraittel.and that even to the lath be could not agrtx withcut certain modifications being admitted to it. Lord Suer r I atO was not anxious to peers the Bill this Seffion, and only wined that it might be put into loch a Rate as might snake it curceptible of improvement (luring the Reed's. la this opinion Lord Ellenbctough and the Lord Chancellor matt readily acquit iced. Loral ALVA Ntr.v wu defirous the whole of the elaufes except the lath, Otouhi be expunged; and he was fore that in alrentirg to that propoii:tan the Noble Lard who brought in the Bill would render au cif natal (mice to the public. Lord horst - lu.° affented. It was then agreed that all the Chutes. except the lalt, be ex purged, and th.lt the Bill be re-committed to-morrow, for the fake of amending the laft Clank. The. Order of the Day was then moved for taking into further coofideration the Atneudmenn made in the Committee on the Clergy Rai !nut Bill, when Lord Carron-sr role, and oppofcd frveral of the ere-Anion% The kit he more particularly objeeted to was that in favour of ti e Chaplain General to his 11/F7jefty's forces, whom he did not confi der as performing any, diitind effential Eeclellaitical duty. On this Chide the Houk divided—Contents s—Non-Contents B—Majority aglinit the exemption 3. His Lordilitp next objeeted to exempting the Brigade Chaplain on foreign fervice. On this the Houk again divided—Contents I T—Non Contents 4. His Lordihip objecited to fevers! other CLufes, but after tonne °Diuretics's* from the Lord Chancellor and Lord Radnor, they were agreed to without a divillon. A long eonverfadon caked between the Lord Chancellor, Lord Grenville, Lord Ellenborough, and Lord Alvanley, relative to the Fellows of Colleges, who were beneficed, and did not rade on their livings. The Lord Chancellor put the queition on this chide, when there apra—Againft the Exemption, 4—For it, zy. r Lordthips then took into confederation the care ofthe Fro farces of Cream College, whom the clack exempted from re- Adeocc. The queftion Wag put, the chute was squired, sod ea off frois the 11111. . Lord A AAA Lrr then propofed an Amendment to oblige bate. Aced Clergymen, who did net reticle on their H' tap, to provide able Curates. whys Otould be relident. The Mop of LONDON (rid he thould oppo(e dile jult now, u be pledged htsalf a Bill could be brought in to proviBe more int unedlarely for the coudition of Curates, and enkree their rcfidenee. Their Lordthips continued further in dAttSon upon fevcral Amerilinents propofed by Lord Grenville and the Lord Chsreel. kr, whieb were agreed to, aad the Report of the whole Bill thus utscoded, was agreed to by that- Lordthips.—Adjourusd. HOUSE. OF COMMONS. EDWARD MORRas, EN. took the Oahe and his Seat for New port, in Cornwall. Sundry Accounts of Eaft India Ihipving were prefer.ted. The third reeding of the Woollen Clothiers Bi 1 was poftponed, after a than costerfetion from Mr. Brook and Admit A Berkeley, anvil Wedoefday next. The Hoare proceeded in a Comrrittee no the Bill for advancing numey towards improviug the Roads in the Highlands of Sc.idard, Rod the Report was ordered to be brought up tomorrow. A MCIII4C from the Lords Rated then; Lori hips' afi.int to the Twelve Millions Loan NU, the Cullom' Duty Bill, and the Bill for the better ?limply of Marinen. The Ir lb Militia Transfer Bill, sod the Medicine Duty Bill, were read a third time sod pared. • Mr. ALERA net a brought up the Repmt of the Comminee of Ways and Means repetting the lei& Budget ; i , nd it we. ordi red that it board be an iniirodlion to the Geothmen appointed to bring In a Bill relative today Irlfh Exesfe, to .nake peel/woo purl:main to the ;trichinas* contained in the bid Report. The additional ENCife Bill was read a (cecina time, and commit ted for to-morrow. 1 he 'Moore haring gone Iwo a Committee nn the Irifh Corn Trade Bill, Mr. HUTC111)1111tt e•reeii,il .4t fo.itc of the provaiiina of dile Bill, qit T.aid he lh.iald take ore wino at : nntk. r rrne to Rate his ohjeclions, and lo hrlaz the cafe of the J,tfh Tanners before the Hoofe. ASSESSED TASSS. The Houle havit g teiolved ad!' into a Clrnmi:tee on i!iu Ciii,_ _ _ The CHAiIeFLLOR of the Excmettytt mowed the f‘llm‘ing Dotie‘:— Ur.... 1 1..rri,..s :scot in Ow capacity of travellers or riders, C. 1. when 0...1- one is lie?t - - S 2 On all a',....-.n ,, - - - - • 3 3 vo flini.l--r •,: !lure falary rlizn sot, a year, where only o:-.• is k vt - - - -A0 near . . . . t) t :, r% ant, lse2t by perking draliry -..! nlcralt and retail I I 2 1 1 I i 1: 71•7 11.3 ,. 13 . 1 • r r . •.% :1, nil cnfi•c-hotufe•lterprrs, ~ • • ~ ••..c .r1”11' • n, ,de, ,:• I.• w , :t• .I;'T I , ', 41.1.1 1 , ) L, z •ivt. d tr,nilrp,tv MIL/ lA, 1.1,0 2 2 • . r I st %.• A.. Ill? , 1 t.. tl.. t••• , I' ts.• .t.,. .r . t t , •. •: I•••• f 1:". t.. •. • •• . • y ry h .;., I• • : • v . ~p... b' • :..• ..• .rr. • • t .' • • • • 3 • thr t!... .a.. t' r-• • t • • 1 1,1” . • "• t ♦.v 1.1.' A 1,r1ot,1!-A. I. • .„" y ot• • ti,e rad. r Ay I. 4.7 I•rad ,-.• it of .1••• P•'l' •,, :•:. • 1.. T • i.y Mr. CAt.etur r :ore And laid, riot skll:ltever might fall from li.ni upon the ftihjea of this armament, he vaulted it would at lei!: he. believed, that nothing was farther fiima his tiniir..thts, than to he the means of imileciiwz. even if he could, the c:;, , r.s of Govern ment, in the Tern obj,:a,whicii they , a ere fo anxious to arcompla, as that of defeating the ilfitlious or driPera:c deligns of France at this important crifis. At the fame cine, jc lions as he ccrtaiti;y for the lion , tir a rid ft fet y r 1 his Country, he thottlit indeed be guilty of a breach of his doty to that Country, which in common with all others of his kiiiitv Mbjeac, h e was bound to for it, and of a dertliaion of his duty as a Member of that Houle, if he did not de clare, that the mcafure now propofed by hisMajefty's Minifiers was inadequate to the end defired. It was underflood, at leaft he hoped In, that this was bus the part of a more general plan and fyftem. If that were the cafe, he contended, that the Chancellor of the Exchequer fhaCull have fubmitted to the Houle the whole of this plan he hid arranged or in contem plation ; when the Country is told that defence is the ob;eg, he feared that defence would be of little avail, unlefs it was capable of aging offenfivelr. For that reafon, he thought it would have been infinitely more 'wife and prudent, to have tilled up the regiments of the line, and provided each of them with that com plement of men that belongs to them firth, and then turned the refources of the Country towards fiapplv ing it with this augmented Militia. In fag, this yo,aoo lo given to the Militia, he confidered were fo many taken from the line. The very fame complaint prevailed during the late war, when the fencible re gimeot, were railed; and Government ought to have pro:ited by experience, and not have recourfe to means which would ultimately, he was fully perfuad ed, produce ilmilar t ffegs. Men, it was true, may be got, but he was vee j r apprehenfive that Officers would not and could not he obtained in the period flappofed by Minillers, to command, at leaft to difci pline them. The fituation of the Country will there fore he, if this Bill pallet its its prefent fhape, that it will have regiments of the line not poffelling their full complement of men, and regiments Of Militia poll-e -1-mg men without officers. He concluded by vindicat ing' the condo& of Mr. Windham, and thole who aged with him, from the charge of flations oppofition. They were above all Inch mean confederations and aged from /natives of themoll honourable nature. Mr. SO EILIDAN confidered this difcullion as prema ture. He obferved that, until the feveral blanks in the Bill were filled up in a Committee, it would be altogether-unfair and unparliamentary to difeufs them by anticipation, the more efpecially as Gentlemen could not, without Tome titre to relied upon them, rightly underfland the true purport, extent, or force of the meafure propofed: to enable Gentlemen to do that, it was intended to fill the blanks in the Commit tee, have the Bill printed, and appoint a convenient day for its further confederation. He was as anxious as the Hon. Gentleman who had kilt fat down, to at with vigour, with boldnefs, and with manlinefs, and he was alfo as earneß for thong meafures as any man in the Houfe. But when that Gentleman talks of fupplying the regiments of the line by ballot and by compulfion, he mull Rand up in his place, and at once mire his voice again it. He appealed to the candour Lf the Houfe whether it was the fame to compel a man to go to foreign parts, and be a fat dier for life, and to call upon him to defend his fire fide in the moment of imminent danger? There was no kind of comparifon in the cafe. No man would hefitate a moment when his country was in danger ; but in the defence of the realm, the King, by the proclamation of the Sheriff of the county, can call on all the inhabitants, by Royal prerogative, to arm, and they mull obey ; but, then, their arming and their fervice has its finite termination; whereas the man who is forced into the line againft‘his content liar no alternative, and mull remain a foldicr for life. With refped to the meafure now before the Houle, he would referve till the proper feafon what he had to offer, and give it fuch aid as he could afford. CALCCIar, in explanation, Paid, that he only reforted to the vindication of ballotting for men, be eagle he heard it Bated on the other fide of the Houfe, that men could not be obtained by bounty. Sir GILIIRT FhATMCOTIL avowed the fame Cenci ments as Mr. Calera& He thought, if the people of this country looked with fo much apathy and in. difference to the dangers of their fituation, and•would not come forward for the defence of their country, retort mull inevitably be had to compulfory means. It was ridiculous to defer the efficient means of de tence until au enemy (tumid have adtially landed, and then to talk of a riling es neje. It would be, indeed, truly ridiculous to think of oppnfing a vete- ' ran army of the enemy, even on our own (pores, LI a rnsfs of farmers and mechanics, armed with tlic implements of their profeffions. Such a force might certainly be of great fervice to annoy an enemy, it' ftipported by a numerous and well•difciplined army. But even upon the Militia, though a gallant and well trained force, and animated, as he was convinced they were, with the grcatell courage and ardour for the defence of their country, yet they were not the kind of troops to be entirely relied on, againtt fuels an army as they would have to encounter, unlefs they were blended with a numerous army of troops of the line, obis mat, in all refpeds, be better cal culated for fervic: againfl a regular army. Mr. W. ELLIOTT began by Rating his opinion, that this sneafure was not of a kind calculated to meet the end prnpoted. If the country were in danger, and in a Hate that required extraordinary exertion', then he expreillJ his decifirt 'emir:rents on the neceffity of hit in:4 a 111 : ': array; but it &mid be filch an army as u as c to alt on general fervice, and be coni,; fable lnthe isiefent aw. ;TO 7 :1,1 ; : ! • m i L loTTletilillg more was re. : mail sits an adjund of weighty •‘i:; *.it i• all ..Or Cu. would be eon. f.i!r4l, 1 .yr c re-ttons inefficacious. Au army r lbould he fuch a dif •:u: . 1 :•: array which molt beneficial in I. offenlive oi-eratit.ns. and • 5 , • • ti:at was imprliii le ;or a Tyro in I ...alcs tt. anitutaletit.mcl it. With refped to the r ••cr iccr.:•;.i ! -, it was a ci cumtlat.ce exceed• at b (L.nipaiifon whatever to poli..latira of the v, IA that its i•int-s ti-- titicig7.lcy made little nt ,: f•cr..ir .•• is • wt.!, an•l I.i:c.i.f. in times •:•• p• ..cc. ltut u hen it was cen t .1- 7 : r.. fr.:rine detrAfts from it, how t:• : ct the country, its commerce and its arts, operate as a drawback againft it, tiip dirticolty of accounting for it is confiderably armn nilhcJ. So many inducements to civil iife proceed rd from their fources, that lefs encouragement is pre ' feared to enter into a military 1;le in this count! y, and there account for t!•: prevailing deficiency of the army recruiting, and have, in a considerable chtgrees count:mei:A it ; particularly when it is confidered, that the extent of the bounty for militia fubuitutes has been increaled from ten guineas to fifteen guineas a man. The great inconvenience ariling from this is, that we have taught the people to look for large bounties, and the difficulty hence to procure recruits of the line inereafes in the proportion. He profellid hinifell a friend to the militia tyllem upon its original fcale, and in that, although he diffared f. orn his Hon. Friend near him (Mr. Windham), yet he by nu mean; considered it as an effective torte, calculated for hazardous, ikilful, and, at the fame time, important enterprifes. By ballot a force of 7o or 80,000 could eafily be railed ; but he was perfuach ed fuch a force could not be railed by bounty, with out exhausting the'recruiting refources of the line.— He contended, there thould be fair competition in that refpeCt, or the line would never have juSt ice done it. The l'ne is our bell hope, and if this measure be put into effett, recourfe mutt be had to compulfory means to complete the line. It was his firm opinion, that ualefs by regular forces, correctly and faithfully difcipiined, we meet an invading vim:, fuels an enemy as France prefents herfclf at this moment, the ruin that will follow cannot be calculated. A militia force may he animated with as much courage as the boldeit veterans, hut when it is found to he brit a raw undifciplined mars, it is not their courage on the Jay of trial that will fail them ; it will be by their capa city, joined, it is true, rith a fuperior malt of regu lar troops, that their efficacy may be manifelled.— *Young men, with old and experienced officers, will do much. We have ample proofs of that, horn the militia of America, who, by contlant fervice, were at last constituted regular troops. But if this country be left without a difpofable force to employ the enemy on his own &ores, wt fhall have nothing to keep them from or o u t of our own. To thole, if any there be, who are deilroui•Of an army without aim or end—to thole he fpoke, and, he trusted, not ufelefsly. Having glanced then at the injury the militia fyßem of Scot land and of Ireland did to the recruiting fyllem in general throughout the empire, the Hon. Gentleman neat proceeded to Rate his objeaions to the abufe that crept into the fervice by railing men for rank, for young men defirous of rank will not comply with the regulated prices, but extend to hafien their promotion. This gives precedence to wealth in preference to me rit, and constitutes thole who are the principals in it little better than crimps. In all he faw it was evident that Minifiers were but retracing pall errors ; a dull fyllem of defence was fubflituted alfo for the bold fpirit of enterprise; and when he beheld this, be could not, with fincerity of heart, look up to any happy iffue from the conceit. Mirifersoughttohavebeenprepared before now; they ought to have been ready now to meet an enemy. When bis Majesty's Mefage on the tit of March was delivered to this Houk, they ought, on that moment to have commenced their preparations. Nay, when they were apprized that the Instinct's of thole (pies called " Commercial Agents" was detefted in December lag, they ought to have armed then; they knew the temper of the man with whom we had to contend, and they might have anticipated his de• figns. If, inaead of the high founding accounts they reported of the fiourifhing Rate of our arts, manufac tures, commerce, and agriculture, they had deviled a formidable plan to check the common toe, they would have aged more conformably to their relpec tive duties, and to their Country's advantage, than by the condu& the/ have purfued. The Sac RRRRRR at Waft in reply Rated, that if the Right - Hon. Gentleman had only waited till he fliw the Bill in its printed Rate, many of his übfervit lions that night would be found wholly unaeccffary. lie would admit, however, that the Hon. Gentle man was jultified in fume of his remarks. He wonted that a miftake which that Right Hon. Gentleman had made, with refpea to " tracing back former errors," might be rectified ; that there might !Owe been errors committed by the late Minifters was very likely, but certain it was, that nothing like tracing back former errors could be difcoveredin this meafure, which was allowed on all hands at leaft to have the merit of no velty with it ; as to 'Wing time, he thought it alit. proper to let him right upon that head, and if that Gentleman would refer himfelf to his Majesty's Mel*. fa e, he would find his charge for lots of time againft Minifters wholly groundlefs. Since the Treaty of Amiens every Rep had been taken to put the country in the bell pofilbk Rate of pteparation for the alter native of war. He denied that the recruiting fervice had been injured, or was likely to (offer any import ant interruption ; but that a force fo large as was requited, could not be raifed within a Ilion period by the ordinary operation of recruiting. He vindicated the meafure as being perfectly confillent with the in creole of the regular army. This he particularly argued from the liberty which would be given to en lilt men from the newly railed regiments, under cer tain regulations. After replying to come other ob• let vations of formerSpeal,ers, lie fat down by calling on the Houle to fupport a meafure of fuch import ance to the bell interefts of the Country. Mr. Pore then role, and, in a fpeech difiinguißsed by his ulna! ability, Rated the grounds on which he had, after the matureß consideration, (Lief mined to give his decided approbation to the principle of the Bill. It was generally on the fame principles on which oppofirion to the meafure had been firunded by his Right Honourable Friend on the other tide (Mr. Elliott) that he felt himielf called on to give it his warm airport ; and all his pro ions motives for this fupport load been materially Ilrengthend and con firmed by what had ;aft fallen from his It-glib Hon. I riend, the Secteraty at War. No one was more ready than he was to admit the importance of having a Loge difpofable force for offenfive operations; but there was one grand conlideration which tri,k prece dence of all others, and that v as an adequate provi. lion for the immediate &fence of the country againft thof• menaces of invantin which the enemy had fo openly avowed. After this great object was provided for dice - wally, no one would he more ready than himfelf to fupport any meafure f or f o rmi ng f ue l s a regular force as might lead to the vigorous and rue ctofill propfecution of the war for ellablithing filch a drfpniable force as might furnilb us with the means, whenever a fair rTening prvfented iifdt, of Striking !to eTeCl'i hlnw agit'inft enemy. Pc j wollld go as far as any one in his vi lilies to c i,j„l enct • which rave rife to thefe threats of inv U,• :t checked, the attacks of the enemy effcatially repelled, and his mad am:)ition reptellitd ; but he thoti,Utt that, in the riricipte of the mealure, there would be found the only means of accornplifh:ng there gitat ohjeas. Important, however, as there conliderati-us were, there was one to which we were called upon to give paramount attention, and that was, as he had already Paid, the effeanal defence of the country.— What we hid in the firit inliance to attend to, was the belt mode of giving us complete teem ity again& any hidden attack, we had to collect all the refourcei and the energies of the country, and then we might think of the means of mnft fignally infliaing on the enemy the vengence which his unprovoked aggrefliort deferved. It would be grange, however, that Lim ated as we now were, we &add think it a talk too humble to look our fituation fully in the face, to think lightly of the menaces of a power by whom one half of Europe had already been fubdued, and to retort to no meafures by which alone our fafety could be ob tained. If, indeed, we were willing to (well the la of the degraded vatFals of the conqueror, we might hold filch a language, but it was utterly incontinent with every principle of proper rape& for the national fccurity and honour. Puttied, however, to the ex tent in which the objcaions to the Bill might be car ried, though lie was perfealy convinced that nothing was farther from the inzemion of his lion. Fiends, they would defeat all effeaual mtafures for accosts plilhing the gland objet of immediate corifideration, the defence of the country. If it were the objea of NE:tillers, or if it could be the elTat of the Bill, .to withhold the means of offenfive operations, arifing from a large difporable force for general purpoteh then indeed the objeaions of his Right llnnourable Friend might have applied with great force. The fill, however, had no fuch drat. The fa& was, it was defigned to provide for the effeEtual fecurity of the country, to raife, more freedily than could be effeCted in any other way, a large force for limited fervice, which force might at no very diflant period be capable of being applied to general purpufes. If within two months the enemy might aklually attempt an invation, and within that period a force adequate to the protedion of the country might he railed with in that time, and if within the fame period an equal number of troops for general fervice could not by any potßble exertions be procured, he left it to every rifle ling man to confider, whether he could hefitate a moment in adopting the firfl in preference to the lift of there plans, however mach he might be a friead to the propriety of enablifhing, with all p*lflble el relition, a large force for general fervice. It was quite impolable, on any fair principle, to difpute the propriety of a meafure which in the &II innance should have the effed of providing complete fecurity for this Wand. and fhould at the fame time fund% the means of availing ourfehres of the firll openiag for endeavout ing to repair the flame and rum of the Continent. It was on this plain principle that the meature had his approbation. If the prefent force of the country was about go or 90,000, and if that number could in a very &on period be doubled by employing men fur limited fervice, and nothing like the fame died could be produced by requiring a fin& lair number for offenfive operation, he would afic.be caufe the tall object coulci.not be effeBed. whether the fira was to be wholly abandoned ? He could not conceive that any man would come forward and fup port fo monfirous a propofition. While we were difcuffing the fuperior utility of employing troops of the line, and dreaming of the importance of offenfive operations, ruin might in the mean time be at our doors. So far was he from thinking that the meafure could at all injure the increafe of the regular army, that after the moll ferions confideration of the robjeft. and he affured the Houle that long before the Bill was prefented, the fubjea had moll gravely occupied his thoughts; he thought that, united, with the re gulations which would be engrafted on it. it would be found to be the very bell plan which could be adopt ed, for providing, fooner than by any other method, a large ditpofable force for general purpofes. He con ceived it to be the grongeft recommendation of the meafure, that in one way it provided with more expo. dition than by any other plan which can be adopted, a large twee for limited fervice, and that a fervice which was the primary objelf of confideratioa ; and in another it laid the certain foundation of fecuring a vaß.acceffion to the regular army, at the time when that acceffion might be applied to purpofes of the moll important nature. Not only did it not preclude the augmentation of the regular army, but it afford ckl the greaten facilities for obtaining this augmenta tion with the lean pot ble difficulty. Even if themi litia were to be entirely difbanded, if the influence of competition which did, he allowed, to a certain de gree interfere with the recruiting of the regular ar my, was removed, though by no means to the extent for which fome Gentlemen were dirpolcd to contend. he would argue that no fyllem of recruiting could within a flout period procure fuch a number °frumps as the exigencies of the country required. He &fir ed Gentlemen not to allow thertifelves to be carried away with the notion, that the exigence of a large mili:ia force was incompatible with the exigence of a large regular army. The experience of forty years clearly uifproved fuels an opinion. It ought sot to be alined as a matter of courfe, that the militia fyf tem was incompatible with offenfive operations, or necetrarily chained down the exertions of the country to the limits of the ifland. The contrary was abuts dandy proved by the !shinty of the country. ZJM fail was, that the period when militia was eitablithed. was tile period which would be mentioned in bilker as the height of the military glory of the country, with the exception of the iiiumphant campaigns of i MailbraougL. It was at the time when the militia nem wANcdaliliflied that our army was on the bell pantile eliabligament, and offenfive operations were carried on on the moll e..ientivc reale. A good deal had been Paid about the comparative value ci the ter vices of the militia and tie regular army, but at the fame time it was admitted that this was merely a queflion of degree. Now the fan was, that at the preterit mornsiir we vowed a force of all kinds. It had been 'hewn by the experience of the count Y. 4 0 years ago, that 30,c00 militia could be rtlintaisted without at all injuring the ettaislilliment it the army : and the qneftion now was, whetli.!r a much greater 'timber could not now be kept up without p:odoc jug any feriniis injory ? It would not. he conceived. be denied that, lituat,:d tLe count:y 00W WV, C, I •' f! c ' 1.1 X ri e ..=