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Mr. PRA ED then moved, that this debate be adjourned till Friday nest. Mr. JAMES rose amidst great cries from the ministerial benches of" Divide, divide." He was glad that the house hail divided so frequently, for it clearly proved the factious nature of the present opposition. The people of Glasgow ntidtt now hoist their black flag as soon as they pleased. , r i rea t cheers.) The real question now before the country tea . simply this—shall the power of voting away the liberty ,td property of the country be given to those who are ready to pay the highes price for rotten boroughs? (Loud cheers.) Lord TULLAMORE rejoiced that there was still a party in the house which, so long as it bad political existence, ;emid defend the rights of the minority to assert their psi vii3O of moving an adjournment. The opposition had been urzol to this course most reluctantly. He had understood the Chancellor of the Exchequer to say, that the minors must eventual!! succeed in this course, and therefore, though it was but fax a trifle, he should pursue his former course, surcort this amendment. r 4:: C. WETHERELL supported the amendment.— With the exulting majorities which the Government had ob •attiol, it ought to take for its motto— " Parcae subjectis et dtbellare supetbos." But it would do no such thing. It was not content with daring in and out of the House with acomic train of atten dants. exulting and triumphing in their superiority—it must also clamour its opponents into silence. Some gentlemen thin present recollected 20 of these divisions taking place in a right. When he had equalled that number, and had got a drawn battle, he might perhaps give way ; but certainly not then. Mr. HUM E.—Men may live long and learn little. The hon. and learned member opposite has lived long and known little of his own situation or of that of his party. The mino rity in which he ( Mr. Hume) had been when such amend masts were proposed, was a minority contending against an unpopular ministry. Here the situation was quite the re-, verse. It was a popular Ministry contending with an Op position consisting of a handful of factious men. L Jrti STOR MONT denied that he proposed these amend ments from faction. He did it to teach a lesson to the other side of the house. He would give them a few more lessons our of his spelling.book,and would not give up his situation of schoolmaster so long as a single member could be found to second his amendments. (Cries of " Oh.") Mr. C. WOOD.—To what other motive but faction can we attribute such conduct 2 (Cheers.) Mr. S. PF.RCEVAL implored the house to consider the situation of the Speaker, and entreated one of the conflicting parties to give way out of consideration to that illustrious individual. Colonel SIBTHORP.—If Lord Stormont is tired, I Shall persist in moving the same amendment. 1 7.51 r. KENNEDY.—The country will know how to ap. preciate a proceeding so characteristic of gentlemen on the other side of the house. Mr. ROBINSON—I am sorry that the hon. member for Tiverton did not fire hours ago put the observation which he has just made regarding the Speaker to the gentlemen of his own party. I think that we have now got to that point, that if government gives way now, it will never be able to carry the Reform Bill (immense cheering : cries of " We will.") It was asserting a monstrous doctrine to say that a small minority was to outweigh a majority which was increasing on every division (cheers.) The house again divided—Minority, 25; Majority, 187. On our re-admission, the question was put and carried, that Mr. Gordon be now heard, but that gentleman refused to avail himself of the indulgence of the house- A Meuse a then moved, and Mr. PRAND seconded it, another motion that the house do now adjourn. An hon. NEMBEII reminded the opposition side of the house that a day of retribution might come for such conduct. (Cheers.) Lord BRUDENELL—It is a mere dispute about a trifle. .11r. PRAED said, that though he had formerly mowed an amendment for the house to adjourn till Friday, he had no intention that the house should not proceed with bust. ness to-day.—(Cheers and laughter.) Sir W. HORNE regretted the manner in which the last six hours had been spent, in impeding, not in carrying on, the public business. Could any gentleman of candour deny that the minority ought tolield to the majority, and not the majority to the minority. Sir C. WET H ERELL said, that he would break a spear with any man who said that he was acting wrongly on this occasion. Never were amendments brought forward on more constitutional grounds. He should continue to p the path which he had hitherto followed, being convinced that in that house he should be deemed to have acted the part of an independent member of Parliament, though he was only the member of a rotten borough.(Loud coughing).He would not be coughed down as others had been. Though they had been nightly performing their duty in that house, the public believed that he and his friends had been col luding with Government, and not conducting their cause with the ge nuine sincerity of men who conscientiously believed them, selves to be engaged in a great cause. For this reason, ' sail Sir Charles, " I have made up my mind to perseve rance, and persevere T wilL" Mr. SHELL said, that as Mr. Gordon. the first cause of the debate, had receded, be thought Sir C. Wetherell ought to recede too. One member said that they were contending about trifles, and another about straws • but it ought not to be forgotten, that straws might be light ed, and set fire to the public mind. When this debate went forth to-morrow, the whole metropolis would be in a ferment. Sir J. BRYDOES proposed that they should draw lots to i decide whether they should or should not adjourn the debate. (Cheers and laughter.) If the house would not accede to that proposition, he should support the amendment. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—Are we then to un. derstand that the hon. baronet supports the amendment, be cause the house refuses to decide this question by a toss-up? (Cheers and laughter.) The house divided—Minority 24 ; majority 187. Sir C. WETHERELL asked the Chancellor of the Ex chequer whether he had any proposition to make about the resumption of this debate at 5 o'clock that day ? He and his friends had been engaged in these discussions so long for no other purpose than to secure the independence of this house, and to prevent the freedom of debate from being stifled. (Cheers, and cries of " Oh.") He did not wish to impede, but to facilitate the settlement of this great question. (Crier of " Oh.") The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was anxious that the house should have the fullest opportunity to discuss the question this evening. If the house would ;Mow him to go into committee pro forma, the chairman nii4ht report progress, and ask leave to sit again to-morrow, .rd the discussion might take place as before. This arrangement was then agreed to. The SPEAKER then put the question, that " I do now leave the Chair." (The cries of" Ay" were deafening. A Trir "Noes" were heard. The Sl'E the " Ayes" have it. (fm. t^en.e cheering from the Ministerial benches.) The bill was then committed, the chairman reported pro pm, and obtained leave to sit again to-morrow (this day.) The louse then adjourned at half-past seven o'clock, till Otte o'clock this day. tOwing to the confusion which prevailed in the House during the whole of the discussion, and which we never ass equalled except on the last day of the last session of Parliament. we are afraid that our report is not so accu rate as we could wish. The late pout of the morning at which these repeated divisions took place, has also com pelled us not only to abridge such speeches as we have given, but also entirely to omit several, which at any other tame we should have felt it necessary to report.] [We have been favoured with another and full account of s hat passed when the reportbrs were excluded] : Lord TIYLLAAIORL declared his determination to move a further adjournment. The noble lord had endeavoured to ....heck free discussion. The Cu ANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER assured the Noble Lord that he had not made any of the statements which he attributed to him. The Noble Lord had said that !t vas his wish to stop free discussion on this great subject. lie would appeal to the House whether the question had not received the most ample and the fairest possible attention. lie had consented to adjournments in every case, where by d9lng so that object could be promoted, but on the present iccasion he should be wanting if he did not mark the opt r:,n which he entertained of the motion now made by con tinuing his opposition to it. (Cheers.) Colonel DAVIES said that it wee impossible to mistake motives which prompted the motion for adjournment. The motion was made to create delay, and throw obstacles ut the way of the great measure under consideration. The inuntry would understand what was meant, and the public t(Aild duly appreciate both the conduct of his noble friend in resisting such a course, and that of those who sought to purgue it. (Cheers.) Sir J. BRYDOES said. the question did not appear to h , ra to have received sufficient discussion; the question of reform certainly bad, but the question now under disesssion was, whether counsel should be beard at the bar. (Loud laughter, and cries of " No. no.'') Lord O. LENNOI said, that the Interruptions which had been complained of to the hon. member for Borough. bridge's speech could not have taken place, for he had counted 18 honourable gentlemen asleep during different pans of it, including the right hon. member for Tamworth, and the late Chancellor of the Esehequer.--(Laughter and cheers.) Sir C. FORBES would not fight under a mask, but would fight under an able leader, if one could be found. He had fought to the utmost, and would persevere. He only wished he could turn ministers out (loud laughter) His object was to throw out the bill and ministers too. Dr. LEFROY hoped that he might seize the moment of good humour to propose that both sides should now consent to adjourn (cries of " no," and " Alderman WAITHIHAN hoped that the ministers would have the firmness to resist the adjournment. (Loud cheers.) The country could not mistake the true motives which actuated those who brought it forward. (Cheers.) What was the use of continued discussion ? He had listen ed to all that had passed to-night; he had !wird a most sudorific speech (shouts of laughter) from the hon. member for Horoughbridge, and what was the result? Nothing hut a repetition of what he had heard before. Mr. G. HAN KES hoped that the di-cession might now be brought to a close. Lord INGESTR I E proposed that the member for Ik roughbridge should withdraw his motion, on an undeestand. Ing that no further proceeding should to►e place, as con tinuing the present discussion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, as it was now too late to proceed with the debate, he did not contemplate any further proceedings, and should agree to the noble lord's proposition. Lord STORAIONT refused to be a party to withdrawing the motion. Lord J. RUSSELL stated the inconvenience of having no person with whom an arrangement for facilitating the business of the house could be made. He had fixed this day for going into the committee on the reform bill, on an understanding with the right hon. member for Tamworth that the house should do so, and he should have fixed an earlier day if he had not believed that this understanding would have been adhered to by the right hon. gent. Mr. PERCEVA L would consent to the motion being withdrawn, upon an understanding that the debate could again be resumed to-morrow on the Speaker leaving the chair. Sir C. WETHERELL opposed the withdrawal of the motion. The house then divided— Against Sir C. Wetherell's motion .. 235 For Majority .. ... .. —172 A third division took place, on a further motion for ad journment, made by Sir C. Wetherell and Lord Tullamore, the numbers were 235 to ea Lord BRUDENELL, seconded by the hon. Capt. Malt. land, moved the adjournment for the fourth time, and a lengthened discussion ensued, which lasted till half.past three o'Clock, when Lord Brudenell withdrew his mo tion, which was again succeeded by a proposition from Lord STORMONT, that the debate should be adjourned till five o'clock this day. On this the house divided at ten mi. flutes after four-214 to 44. A fifth adjournment was then moved again, by Sir C. WITMIRELL. [The subsequent proceedings are as fully detailed in our own report as in that furnished by this hand.) EVENING STAR. LONDON. WEDNESDAY. JULY 13. • a ' Extracts from Mr. Jenning's Pamphlet, with refe rence to Lord Wynford's Bill, art deferred till to-morrow. The people of England ought in regard to the Reform Bill to be satisfied with their Representa tives. NEVER SINCE THE REPRESENTATIVE SYSTEM VMS ADOPTED, EIS AN AUXILIARY Of GOVERNMENT, did AN ASSEMBLY present sucit a SPECTACLE SS THE HOUSE of COM MONS LAST NIGHT! The forms of debate con cede certain powers of moving previous questions, adjournments, &c; and of these the utmost latitude of usage was adopted, by which the questions preliminary to the conversion of the House into a Committee, were crossed by motions for adjournment till seven o'clock this morning, there having been seven motions to adjourn carried successively ngainst the movers by 4 or 5 to 1. All this proves that the people of England ought not to rest on their oars ; but to be on the qui rive, till the Bill is actually part of the Statutes of the country. Every man who reads the debates of last night will perceive, that though we may rely on the perspicacity and firmness of the popular members, yet as these derive their strength and en couragement from the people, so similar perspicacity and firmness are demanded and called for in the people ; and they must in no way relax in the noble spirit, and commanding unanimity, which they displayed through the Spring, and in the last elections. They will be, as they are openly considered, the PROPERTY of the Boroughmongers, to be used for their purposes ; or they will be free men for ever, if, by suitable energies, they come triumphantly out of this struggle. We take leave to suggest, that every body of Independent Electors in the Kingdom ought forth with to meet, and thank their own Members, who formed part of the vigilant majorities of last night. The reform in Denmark, is, it may be perceived, of a very limited character. It merely creates pro vincial or county assemblies to be elected by proprie tors of lands and houses, to protect and improve the local interests of their districts. Such a concession of an arbitrary Monarch is liberal, and the arrange ment cannot fail to be very useful. We want, in England, some balance of power in counties against the pernicious tactics of magistracy, picked and packed by lord lieutenancies, and the still more degrading influence of the feeble close corpo rations. Our general theory is good, but our working system is the worst and most unhappy that can be conceived. The plot of some traitors at Warsaw, so happily discovered, resembles those a hich occur in all changes of Government. In England JAMES had his MARLDRO' ; GEORGE his ARNOLD ; LOUIS the Sixteenth a Tuilleries full of such; and Louis the Eighteenth his Boy R MON T, M A R MONT, and Gaoucnv ; and so it seems NICHOLAS and CONSTANTINE left their willing agents in Warsaw, who, no doubt, like MARLBRO' Or BOVRMONT, have given notice of every move meat to the enemy. Punishment follows detec- ' tion, and then the blood of traitors becomes a theme for invective. Perhaps therefore the 20,000 Russian prisoners resembled the wooden horse of Troy ; but if so, they are now caught in their own trap. Still keeping Poland in view, what a wretched production the Proclamation of Told.— how truly Muscovite, and below the age ! How worthy of a slave to call on others to surrender, and trust to the generosity of his master ! The Cholera in Petersburgh, and the death of Cox - STANTINE must, however, furnish the Russians with graceful excuses for retiring, or probably in their general disorganization, for surrendering in detail to the Poles, and settling in the country, a result which the Polish Government ought wisely to promote. An Augsburgh article reminds us of Austria's l proposition to give up Galicia in 1815, for the restoration of Poland; and as such articles do not appear unauthorized in Foreign Journals, it seems to augur well. Perhaps we shall next hear of Prussian magnanimity about Prussia Royal and Posenia—and thus there will be a kingdom for another King 1 . And why not for young NA POL Eos ? Thus we " marry and give in marriage," even while the PESTILENCE of CHOLERA is sweeping over the Earth, to unite half the quick with the doad, and to mock the vain speculations and mighty dreams of frail humanity ! No less than seven candidates have advertised for Derbyshire in the anticipation of the Reform Bill being carried ; and such is the avidity of am bition to become a legislator, loaves and fishes being now out of the question, that we know of no place in schedule C and D for which two or three candidates have not been already announced. In some the canvasses have been commenced, public meetings held, and even pledges given, as we think, a little prematurely. No duty of Electors is more important than that of reserving their promises till all the Can. didates are before them ; and it implies very small confidence of a Candidate, in his own com parative pretensions, to extort or smuggle a pro mise, till he and others stand fairly before the Electors. If not bribery, it is at least taking an unfair advantage of an Elector's courtesy and good nature, and is a sort of hole-and-corner elec tion, a forestalling of an elector's free will, which from respect to honourable men, who would be no parties in such practices, ought not to be tolerated. It is, in fact, no election, if the electors, or a majority of them have pledged themselves before the time; and before candidates, more worthy, had presented themselves for a free choice, not for the leavings of more crafty candidates. Then in the exercise of a new franchise, some additions are required to Sir Richard Phillips's Golden Rules. All his cautions against scions of the Peerage, and Parliamentary Jobbers and Speculators, apply, with ten-fold force, in the choice of a reformed Parliament. We want in such an assembly, men of experience, well ac quainted with society, and not too remote in their habits of life from the mass of the people whose wants are to be consulted, and to whom laws especially apply. We require few lawyers in it ; because, as the servants of legis lation, they never ought to be allowed to direct it. And, above all, we ought to reject your unfeeling political economists, who desire to ren der society a bed of Procrustes, and are unceas ingly anxious to render all men of one length, by stretching out, or cutting down, so as to fit their measures and calculations. Nor do we want smooth-faced gentlemen, who always agree with the last speaker, and who consult propriety by constantly being among the ma jority. A reformed Parliament will want MEN in the legitimate sense of the word, noun substantive men ; men capable of standing alone, and of think ing, determining, and acting for themselves. In a word, let the new electors and the independent electors bear in mind, that it will not be in the name, but in the fit men which they send to it, that will constitute it a REFORMED PARLIAMENT. The Borough Faction have become desperate and reckless. The House met last night to go into a Committee on the Bill : but a motion was inter posed, that counsel should be heard to argue whe ther A PYLE 81' had, or had not, above 2,000 inha bitants, (a matter of fact, subject to examination by the committee) and negatived by a division which took place, 197 for the hearing of counsel, and 284 against it, as unnecessary. The speakers for this proposition were Lord Maitland, Col. Connoly, Sir R. Peel, Mr. C. Wynn, Mr. Attwood, Sir C. Warrender, Mr. Praed, Sir E. Sugden, Sir C. Wetherell, Mr. Croker, and Ald. Thompson. The speakers who opposed it, as a mere mat ter of fact, and not of argument, were Lord John Russell, the Attorney-General, Mr. C. Wood, Lord Milton, Mr. Harvey, Mr. R. Grant, Lord Althorp, Col. Torrens, and Mr. Ferguson. It was alleged that Appleby consists of two parishes, and that one parish only had in the population returns been given as Appleby, by which the population had been returned 1,341, which brought it within Schedule A, and that its true population was 2,616, which carried it into Schedule B, or entitled it to one Member. To this species of numerical correction, the bill has been readily subjected in several instances, and h its framers stated that if on inquiiy such proved to I be the fact in regard to Appleby, it should have the benefit of being transferred to Schedule B. Than this nothing could be more fair and reasonable, but nothing would satisfy Alderman TIIOMPSON and others, but that Counsel ought to be admitted to the bar to argue the same question. This ground for delay being, however, disposed of by a majority of 97, though 30 friends to the Bill allowed themselves to be shut out in the pas- 1 sages, and ten of its usual supporters voted for these speeches of Counsel; Colonel CONNOLY then moved that the SPEA KER should leave the Chair that day six months, and denounced the Bill and its tendencies as dangerous, and ' fatal to the representative system. He was supported by Mr. Fa NE, Mr. C. PELII AM, and Mr. ATTWOOD, who stated that he understood new Peers were to be created to carry it, and that the whole measure was opening the flood gates of re volution ! Col. GORDON now moved an adjournment, in which he was seconded by Mr. HUNT ! ! Lord ALTIIORP stated, that though at that hour, the house would resolve itself into the committee for form's sake, yet, as it had met on that evening for that purpose, he should oppose any adjournment, till the house had resolved itself into the committee, where gentlemen were still at liberty to make their observations. Col. WOOD and Mr. WYNN urged adjournment, but Sir R. PEEL stated that he would be no party to vexatious delay, and thought the debate might be continued ; and so thought Sir E. SUGDEN, and Mr. C. PELHAM. Colonel GORDON persisted, however, in his amended motion for adjournment, and at half-past twelve, the House divided-102 for the adjourn ment, and 328 against it. Soon after, on a division that the SPEAK as leave the Chair, it was carried by 286 to 90. Sir CH A RLES WETII ERELL then interposed an amendment, on the SPEAKER'S motion " that I do now leave the Chair," that the House should adjourn till Thursday, on which a division took place-63 for, 235 against. At half-past three, the SPEAKER renewed his motion, wheO l ord STORMONT, to chew, as he said, that his party would not be brow-beaten, again moved an adjournment. this led to a further discussion in which Lord ALTIIORP persisted, and Mr. STAN LET explained that the Committee precluded no gentleman from speaking on the Bill; but MI PRA ED retorted that the demand of going into a Committee was made only to satisfy the dignity of the other side, and therefore he for one would not consent. Accordingly, at five o'clock, a fifth or sixth divi sion on the adjournment took place, when the :Minority were reduced to 44 against 214. But even still they continued to interpose their previous question of adjournment, and between five o'clock and seven o'clock this morning, no less than two other divisions took place, when, at the latter hour, the House broke up, Lord ALTHORP and the Friends of the Bill having triumphed in the result. This day the KING came from Windsor, and held a Levee at St. James's Palace ; after which there was a Privy Council, at which his MAJESTY presided. ROYAL EXCHANGE, ONE O'CLOCK. Consols are at present 84g. TWO O'CLOCK. Consols have rather lowered since the early part of the morning, when they were 841. At pre sent they are 84 to 84i with little doing. In the Foreign Market no business is going for ward ; prices much the same as yesterday. THREE O'CLOCK. Svoci Excmaxor.—Bank Stock, 2001 1. Three peg Cent. lied. 831 4 1 3. Three ter Ct. Como* 821 4 1 1. es dir. Three and a Half net Ct. 1818, 916. Three and a Half per Cent. Red. 901 1 90 Three and a Half per Cent. New, 904 6 1 ex die. Four per Cent. 1826, 994 4. Long Annuitlet ' Jan. 1964), 16 15-18 17. In dia Stock, 200 1 1 ex div • ditto Honda, 4 prem. £lOOO Exchequer Bills, 14 13; £5OO ditto, 15 13; £lOO and .1200 ditto. 14 13. Console for Amt. 841 * 4. TTlllloOTH:ini.ill2. Sunday evening arrived from Hip, bound to Southamp ton, with wheat, the Brunswick of this port, Quinton, masts', sailed for the Mother Dank to perform quarantine. This morning arrived the Vigilant, Anderson, master, with timber and spars, from Porsground, (Norway); and Cygnet, White, from Bledembleak, Netherlands, cheese. The East Norfolk, commanded by Honourable Colonel Wodehouse, having been trained and exercis2d for 28 days, teturned to their homes. CIRCULA. The Duchess of Cambringe, attended by the Baroness *Mehl& and Sir JAMS Heynett, honoured Mr. Greenwood with her company at dinner on Monday evening, at his twat at Brontpton. The Duke and Duchess of Cumberland visited the Princess Augusta on Nlonday evening, at her residence in the Palace at St. James's. The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester and the Landgravine of Hesse Homburg paid visits to the Princess yesterday. A Conference of the Ministers of the five grent Powers was beld yesterday afternoon at the Foreign (Mee. It was attended by the French, Austrian, and Russian Ambassadors, the Pre4sian Minister, and Viscount Pal. merstoo. The Lords of his Majesty's Most Hon. Privy Council held a meeting yesterday morning at the Council Office. There were present the Lord Presidem, the Master of the Rolls, the bold Chief Justice of the King's Bench, the Judge of the Admiralty Court, and Sir Edward East. Mr. Orrinle attended as Clerk of the Council. Sir James Scarlett wus beard in an appeal from the decision of the Supreme Court of Bombay, respecting some of the Deccan prise money, the parties being the exe cuters of one of the native Peishwas, and the East India Company. Othe r Counsel having been heard by their lord ships, judgment was given, and the memorial dismissed. Besides hid pension of 50,0001. a-cear, Prince Leopold, as well as being a Field Marshal, has enjoyed all the emoluments of a Coloneky of Cavalry for fifteen years, his Royal Highness having been appointed Colonel of the Rfth Dragoon Guards in 1816. This Colonelcy of course becomes vacant by his acceptance of the Crown of Belgium. One of those demoralizing exhibitions a P atzE FIGHT, took place yesterday, near Stoney Strat ford, between two men of the name of Waltz) and Birawl, in which the former was victor, and now is called by Me Fancy, the Champion of England. SECOND EDITION. STAR OFFICE, SevLN o'CLocK. HOUSE OF LORDS -THIS DAY. On the suggestion of the Duke of CUMBERLAND die second reading of the Tithe Composition Bill was postponed till Friday next, in consequence of the necessary absence of Earl Eldon. The Bishop of FERNS prestnted a petition from Grange in Ireland, praying for assistance to collnt the till es in that parish. The Right Rev. Prelate t! en to a letter of of Dr. Doyle complaining of nonresidence ; such a charge could not be brought against the clergy of the county of Carlow. for there was but one non.resident in the county, and that was accounted for by his glebe house being attached to the living. He then went on to support the prayer of the petition, by stating that it was almost im possible to get any person to serve a process for tithes jn Ireland, so apprehensive were the parties of personal violence being inflicted upon them, as in the late unfur tunate cue at Newtownbarry.—Petition laid on the table. Lord DA RNLEY presented a petition from Meath, in favour of Parliamentary Reform, The Marquis of LANSDOWE presented a petition from Galway, for an equalisation of the elective franchiv. AFFILAY At NEWTOMNBAIRILY. Lord FARNHAM, pursuant to notice of motion, rose and moved for a copy of whatever information the gove-;:. ment possessed relative to it. (Left Sitting.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. When the SPEAKER took the chair, there was an unusually full attendance of members, and most of ti e seats in the house and the side galleries were taken, by having papers fixed at the back, and the presence of the members at prayers. STEAK canamoss. Col. TURRETS presented a petition from Mr. Gurney, noticing that Turnpke bills had passed which excluded steam carriages from passing along the roads, with extra cost•, and praying that they might be exempted from such severe tolls. Mr. HUME observed that there had been so much talent and capital employed by Mr. Gurney that the carriages were entitled to exemption. Mr. G. DAWSON observed, that one Turnpike Bill had passed, which taxed steam carriages to the extent of I is. as compared with 2s. as contrasted with other carriages. He hoped nothing would be done to throw obstructions in the way of these improvements. Mr. S. WOR MET said, that the steam carriages jured the roads much more than other carriages. Sir M. RIDLEY said that might be, but the difference in the toll was preposterous. Mr. WILES mentioned that these carriages were running horn Whiteckapel with great agvantage to the public. Col. TUREENS gave notice, that un the vsth instant, he should move for a select committee on the subject. Mr. SADLER postponed till August 2, his motion regarding poor laws for Ireland, and till August 11, his motion regarding the employment of the English poor. Mr. HUNT presented a petition from Manchester against the Corn Laws—laws that had consigned thousands of the people to premature destruction. THE NEW BEER BILL. TO THE EDITOR OF TEE STAR. Stn—ln your paper of the 9th, in an article headed 0 The New Beer Bill," you ask, has a bishop nottim3 better to do than to meddle with public houses ? Answer— If a bishop is convinced of the immoral effects of these beer houses, it is his bounden duty publicly so to state. Where you pia your information that they do not product immoral effects, I know not; but an assertion is neither proof nor argument In any ease, and every person who lives in the country knows that they do produce, and are producing, evils of incalculable magnitude. How is a country magistrate • gainer by the power of licensing ? Does he receive a farthing from those who are licensed ? Can he refuse a license without showing the cause ? Would a magistrate remain in the commission a moment if any corrupt motives could be proved ? Or, are ionicientious men to be condemned by assertions and cries ? I am a magistrate, and defy—either against myself or those with whom I have for many years acted—malice itself to produce the slightest ground for the most distant shade of a charge of the kind. I was among those who refused a liana; and if you have any feelings of truth, candour, or charity, yourself shall judge in this case. A poor girl, with her mother, MU passing by a public house in a market town in ; they sat town to rest themselves in the tap-room ; there was a soldier and two loose women. The mother and young woman were about to leave the house, when one of the women started up. held the young woman, whilst the soldier threw her on the ground, and assaulted her in a manner I shad not dt.cribe. The loallord must have heard the cries from the tap, but no no. tice was taken. The injury was proved, the soldier con. victed, and the publican's license refused. No power on earth should have compelled me to grant it ; and for twenty years this is the only instance in which I. have been concerned in refusing • license. As to the Beer Bill, I know, that in almost every parish in the kingdom, a brothel is opened for younger rustle liber tines of a village; I know it is the r. sort of idleness, for days, while money lasts ; I know that wages, which should go to a labourer's family, is there consumed in beer and smoke. And as to the Bishop of Bath and Wells—crimes of ir ordinate character, in his diocese, were traced, upon convic eon, to beer houses ! I will recreate you with ooe instance —The benevolent bishop was the first to set the example of letting loge lots of land to the poor, at reduced rents. He had the blest.ings of the industrious and sober poor—but soon after, the beer shops in Wells were opened. Some. who were traced fo those haunts of idleness, scaled his walls —in consequence of what he had said about the (freer-- htoke every pane of glass in a large green-house, and cut the throat of a favourite tame deer, that fed almost before the door, and which literally " Mehl the hand just rais'd to shed its blood !" Now, Sir, in answer to your assertion, you have &loth, r assertion to the contrary, with a few circumstances, which I can prove. I know not whether, like the Tines, you will have the magnanimity to admit this assertion, and these facts, in w alker to your article, but if you have a grain of truth or cha rity you wilL My name shall be given if required, sad I am, 11. e. A FRIEND To TROTH. The necessary interruption of intercourse with the Baltic, is producing very extensive inconve niences to merchants, mariners, &c. &c. in Eng land, who subsist by the vast trade carried on with that sea ; while Russia will be deprived of its returns from exports, and its duties of cus toms, for this Summer, and have soaii thing else to think about besides conquering the Poles.— Down to the middle of June, the first ships hays taken in their lading, and Petersburg bugged it self in confident security; but the first notices of cholera sent shipping to sea without cargoes, and arrested all business, in Uglier cow iderations of personal safety. The political treachery to Europe of Prussian succour to the lilt:wed ltutsian armies, cannot fail to spread the disease through Prussia, and hence the crime for once will be accompanied by direct punishment. 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