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0 m IC KEY, Marcia. COMMON COUNCIL, holden in the CHAMBER of the GUILDHALL of the CITY of LONDON, on FRIDAY, the stb day of MAnce, 1831, lissocvett : WHAT his Majesty's Ministers haring entered Office upon a distinct pledge to introduce efficient measures of Reform the Representation of the People in Parliament, this Court delayed .0 cure , . any feeling upon the change which then took place in his m;.j.,t)'s Councils until such measures had been brought before the l's!;11c . and this Court being now satisfied that the plan which has bete submitted, under the sanction of his Majesty's Ministers to the :,.nsideration of Parliament, is eminently calculated to uphold the dignity nd security of the Crown, and to promote the true interests And happiusi of all classes of his Majesty's subjects, feel themselves vaiLd upon to declare their conviction that his Majesty's Ministers !lac,. fully r,d, enled the important pledge made by them upon their .:ccertance of office, and have thereby entitled themselves to the un confiderce of the country. "CI) of Ireland from England. The hon. and learned gentleman It id 14 •! 7 eulogised the Orangemen. ' The petition was aga:nst the repeal. Itir. O'CONNELL said lie had been willing to fiit4et religious distinctions, and therefore he had toasted the Orsngcni,, REPEAL 01 THE UNION. •, I SSICATZ 0 ViaorgiainDz u 1788. \°. 13,725. SATURDAY EN' EN I Cr, MARCH 5, i S3l. Pnicr 71). IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. R o oked : That a dutiful and loyal Address be presented to his Ma joty, founded upon the foregoing Resolution. Whereupon a Committee was appointed, who withdrew and pre pand the Draft of an Address; which was read and agreed to. Ordered : That the said Address be fairly transcribed, and signed by the Town Clerk, and presented to bis Majesty by the whole Court. Ordered : That the Stuffs, attended by the Remembrancer, do forthwith wait upon bis Majesty, to know his Royal will and pleasure when this Court may attend him with the said Address. WOODTHORPE, HOUSE OF LORDS. U.►r,crr KEY, MAYOR. 1 COMMON COUNCIL, holden in the CH AMBER of the GUILDHALL, of the CITY of LONDON, on FRIDAY, the' ' 4th Day of March, 1851, REsoxvirri: T IIAT this Court haring long entortainod a deep and in cr.asing conviction of the necessity of a Reform in the Repre -entation of the People in the Commons House of Parliament, have !oohed forward with the greatest anxiety to the course which His I:njesty's Ministers would adopt in reference to that important subject; ind this Court now feel themselves imperatively called upon to record 'heir high approval of the principles of the measure which has been :t.troduced under the sanction of His Majesty's Ministers to the Honourable House of Commons. Resolved: That a Petitition, founded upon the foregoing Resolu 'ion, be pr:sented to the Honourable the House of Commous forth. with. :Ind the Draft of a Petition having been prepared accordingly, was -.:ad and agreed to. Ordered : That the said Petition be fairly transcribed, signed by the Town Clerk, and presented forthwith to the flonoutable the House Commons by the Sheriffs, attended by the Remembri...cer. Resolved: That the Representativet for this City I:: Parliament, and such Members of this Court as have seats in Parliament, be re lueszeri t• support the said Petition in the Honourable the House of WOODTHORPE. FROM TILE LONDON GAZETTE, March 4. ST. JAMES'S PALACE, Jas. 31. The King has been pleased to appoint Colonel Sir Janie' Reynett, K.C.B. one of the Grooms of his Majesty's Bedchamber in Ordinary, ut the room of the Hon. John Townshend, resigned. ST. JAMES'S PALACE MAace 2. The King was this day pleased to confer the honour of Knighthood on John de Veulle, Esq. Bailiff of the Island of Jersey. CROWN OFFICE, MARCH 4. MESIBERS RETURNED TO SERVE DI THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT. County of Kilkenny—The Honourablel;hnllllliaM Ponsonby, commonly called Lord Viscount Duncannon. Borough of Wigan—John Hodson Kearsley, of the said Borough, 3nd of Higher Hall, within %%rudder, in the Parish of Leigh, in the :Aunty Palatine of Lancaster, Esq. in the room of James Alexander Hodson, Esq. who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Middlesex. inseph Hume, Fnq. to be Deputy Lieutenant; Edward Webster Bullock Webster, Esq. to be ditto. C.rnnu,sion by his Majesty's Commissioners of Lieutenancy for the City of London. 9ezinient of Royal London Militia—Thomas Allen, Esq. to be Cap ri:), vice Meard, deceased. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Dorset. Li:Net Regiment of Volunteer Yeomanry Cavalry—Samuel Pretor, Gri.t. to be Cornet. Commissions by the lard Lieutenant of the County of Devon. 'lobe Deputy Lieutenants—George Strode, John Milner, jun. John Redd, Thomas Snow, junior, Edward Brown, John Buller Yarde Buller, Charles Hale hlonro, William Arundell Harris Arundell, George Lewis Coham, John Palmer Bruce Chichester, George Wm. Soltan. Charles Cifford, Abraham Smith, Esquires. Devon Regiment of Militia—Charles Scale Hayne, Gent. to be Ensign ; John Arthur Lysaght, Gent. to be ditto. :1 Devon Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry—John Boone, Esq. to be Captain ; Francis Baring Short, Gent. to he Lieutenant ; William Richard Bishop, Gent. to be Cornet, vice Stowey, promoted ; John Henry Ley, Gent. to be ditto. North Devon Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry—Thomas Wrey Har ding, Esq. to be Captain, vice Bassett, resigned; Charles Webber, Gent. to be Lieutenant; William P;chard Keates Walter, Gent. to he Cornet. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Dumbarton. .tetvart Jolly, Esq. to be Deputy Lieutenant; James Hamilton, Jun. Esq to be ditto. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of Stirling and Dumbarton. 1.8:h, or Stirlingshire, &c. Regiment of Militia—The Right Hon. Wil liam David Lord Viscount Stormont, to be Lleutenant.Colonel, vice Conning,hanie, resigned. Coramissions by the Lord Lieut ena nt o f th e C ount y of Northampton. brackley and Chippingwarden Squadron of Yeomanry Cavalry—Wil liam Cartwright, Esq. to be Captain-Commandant ; Henry Hely Hutchinson, Esq. to be Captain; William Willes, Gent. to be Lieu tenant ; John Henry Pyc, Gent. to be ditto ; Robert Weston, Gent. to be Cornet. Wellingborough Troop of Yeomanry Cavalry—Allen Allicocke Young, Esq. to be C apta i n ; T. Williams Gent. to be Lieutenant ; Wm. Whitworth, Gent, to be Cornet. hurdle Troop of Yeomanry Cavaltry—Charles Paul Berkeley, Gent. to be Lieutenant. DECLARATION:cIon OF INSOLVENCY. Isaac Hellier, aen. Wimbl, schoolmaster. BANKRUPPS. Jovcx RICHASD, Cambridge, bootmaker. to surrender March 11, at ten, 18, and April 16, at eleven, at the Court of Commissioners.- Atte. Blears. Robinson, Rine, and Robinson, Chanerhouse square. wax txsox JOSEPH, Eamont-bridge, Westmorland, clock-maker, ?larch 23, 24, and April 15. at eleven, at the George Inn, Penrith. Attorneys, Mr. Addison, Vcrulam-buildings ; and Mr. Atkinson, Penrith. FARRAR, JOSEPH, Halifax, and FARRAR, JAMS, Bradford, Yorkshire, common carriers, March 17, at three, at the Sun Inn, Bradford, 18, and April 15, at ten, at the Magistrates' Room, Halifax. Attorneys, . . Jaques and Battye, Coleman -street; and W. F. Holroyde, Halifax. Arrcocx, PoLicaar, Redditch, Worcestershire, needle manufacturer, %larch 16, 17, and April 15, at twelve, at the Swan Inn, Alcester, Warwickshire. Attorneys, Dlr. Joseph Creswell, Redditcb ; and Messrs. Lowndes and Gatty, Red Lion-square. )1011, THOMAS, Kirton in Lindsey, Lincolnshire, draper, March 18, at three, 19, and April 13, at eleven, at the George Inn, Kirton in Lindsey. Attorneys, Messrs. Bell, Brodrick, and Bell, Bow Chinch. yard, Cheapside ; and 111 . Thorpe and Smith, Kirton in Lindsey Suomi; WILLIAM, march. Liverpool, Mar. 24, 2.5, April 15, at one. Lr the Clarendon Rooms, Liverpool. Attorneys, Mr. J. Clue, and slessrs. Ramsbottons and Roberts, Liverpool; and Messrs. Taylor and Roscoe, King's Bench Walk, Temple. AMWAY% JAMES. Bath, tea-dealer, March 14, 15, and April 15, at eleven, at the Castle and Ball Inn, Bath. Attorneys, Mr. Wil lasighby 111'Ghie, New Inn ; and Mr. E. V. Goodball, Bath. DIVIDENDS. ) larch 25, W. W. and J. N. Dunn, Sambrook -court, Basinghall :reel, brokers March 25, I. B. Baker, Cond u i t - street , Bond-street, .3!lo r -A pril 8, T. S. Alger, Eton, Buckinghamshire. miller-Much =,. U. Alder, East India Chambers, Leadenha ll -street, merchant 'rd 22, It. Leonard, Cheapside, warehouseman-March 25, C. H. !I,lllnswortb, Cbapman's-place, Great Dover -street, Southwark, coal trd iant-March 25, J. Harris, Pickett-street, Strand, linen draper -March 25, T. and T. Oriel, Poland -street, Oxford-street, tailors alarth 25, 1. Hawden, J. Sandeman, an d J. L. Cowell, Gibraltar and Ll,l`"Pord, merchants-March 2.5. J. Miller, Pall- ?arch 28, '= B , J. Wadswo r th, L ong B uc kb y , Northamptonsl, hire, o dealer- Asartli 11, %V. Taplin, Basinptoke, ironmonger. The Earl of RODEN presented a petition from Hereford, em the subject of the Chinch-building Ac.. Also a petition from Roys.on. against the duty on coals. The Duke of GORDON presented several petitions against negro slavery. Sir A. GRANT, Lord STANLZY, and other members from tliv Coln. mons, brought up several private bills. Lord HA RDWICKE presented a petition from the Dissenters of UttoNeter, for the abolition of slavery in the colonies. The Duke of DEVONSHIRE presented the answer of his Majesty to an address for papers. The Duke of GORDON presented petitions from Aberdeen and In verness, against the post-horse duty. The East of KINNOCL presented two petitions to the same purport. Lord CAWDOR presented several petitions from Carmarthen, and other parts of Wales, for the abolition of negro slavery. • ITTHIS. Viscount CLIFDEN presented; petition from the Roman Ca tholic inhabitants of the parish of Bray, in Ireland, praying for relief from the tithe system. The Noble Viscount said he had received a letter front a learned prelate, the Rev. Dr. Doyle, complaining that his Noble Friend, (Lord Farnham), in his place, had erroneously stated that the Rev. Mr. Doyle, Vicar of Bray, was related to him, Dr. Doyle. The Rev. Prelate denied there was any relationship between them. The Noble Viscount, adverting to the subject of the petition, I spoke of the differences between the Protestant and Roman Catholic ' hierarchy. He was convinced that the disputes between those persons would never subside until a liberal allowance was made for the Ca tholic clergy. Lord FARNHAM said he had formerly apprised their Lordships that he should bring a hornet's nest about his ears when he spoke of the Roman Catholic clergy. It appeared, from the letter received by the Noble Viscount, that he was charged with improperly describing the relationship which he had supposed to exist between Dr. Doyle and the clergyman of the same name. He was not learned in the pedigree of the Doyles, nor could he tell how far their genealogies extended to cousins, but there could be no doubt that the Rev. Mr. Doyle had addressed his Catholic congregation calling upon them, not to pay tithes to the Protestant clergy. His Noble Friend had spokes% of a provision for the Catholic clergy, and he could only say, if a Bill were brought into Parliament for that purpose, he never could consent to it. Viscount CLI FDEN explained. The LORD CHANCELLOR rose to present thirty-one petitions, from different parts of the country, on that subject which now occupied the attention of the whole nation—reform in Parliament. It was his intention to follow the excellent example which had been adopted by noble lords, and refrain from entering into the discussion of this most important subject till the matter came regularly before the house. Ile did so because he was convinced the subject would meet elsewhere the calm and deliberate discussion which a subject of such magnitude and importance deserved. The Duke of BUCKINGHAM wished to know whether any of the petitions were in favour of the ballot. The LORD CHANCELLOR thought the Noble Duke was int. posing an arduous task upon him, but he believed very few of these were for the ballot, being generally poor Scotch burghs, and he did not understand the subject of the ballot had made very great progress in that part of the country ; he would, however, read over the names of the petitions, by which the noble Lord would probably be able to see what were in favour of the ballot and what not. His Lordship then read over the petitions, which were from St. Pancras, Dewsbury, Fife, Ludlow, Lyme Regis , St. Luke's, Roxborough, and twenty other places. The noble Lord apologis ed at a considerable length to the pe titioners for reading over the names of their petitions in such a bead. roll sortof way, but he did so from an anxiety not to occupy the valua. ble time of the House by reading them one by one. The Duke of NORFOLK rose to express the great gratitude he felt towards his Majesty's Governmentlfor having brought forward so effec tual a plan of reform, as was now under discussion in another place.— lie felt confident that it would give general satisfaction to the whole country. As a proof of that, he need only advert to the meeting that had taken place of the Common Council of London and Westminster, to express to his Majesty their high gratitude for what had been done. He was persuaded the measure would tend to allay those troubles the country had been labouring under, (Hear) and that when it was passed into a law, England would again see golden days. As an individual, he might be supposed to sustain some loss from this measure ; on that score he had no regret; (Hear, hear) if it were ten times as much, he should glory in the sacrifice, it tended to the liberties and happiness of the people. (Hear.) LEGISLATIVE UNION. The Earl of WICKLOW rose to present a petition which he con sidered of the greatest importance. It was from the Noblemen and Gentlemen of the County of Wicklow, and the object was to intrcat their Lordships not to dissolve the Legislative Union between England and Ireland. The petitioners also prayed for a law to suppress all agitation. They knew that attempts were then making, to disturb the social feelings of the people of Ireland ; but they expressed a hope that the machinations of the agitators might be frustrated. The Noble Earl could not sit down without a few observations on a subject of such im. portance to Ireland. On the first day of the present Session, the Noble Secretary for the Home Department stated that several measures were in preparation for the amelioration of the condition of Ireland. The Noble Earl did not know why those measures had not been brought forward. He trusted that his Majesty's Ministers were able to realise' the expectations they had held out, and place Ireland in an improved position. He should heartily co-operate in all such measures ; and he did nut doubt that prosperity and happiness might shortly succeed the animosity which unhappily prevailed in that part of the United Kingdom. Earl GREY, convinced that a dissolution of the Union wool.] lead to a separation of the two countries, declared that he for one would for ever give it his decided opposition. With respect to the prayer of the petition which called upon Government to suppress agitation by power, he should be prepared to ask for additional powers whenever the same might be necessary, but so long as lie had hope of preserving peace by the operation of the law it would be desirable to adhere to that course. The Noble Earl had re ' commended the subject to his Majesty's Government, but he would ask the noble earl whetter he really thought the Government wanted that recommendation ? if the noble earl would more attentively look to what had been done on the subject, he would find there had been no neglect on the part of the officers of the Crown. He could not avoid calling the attention of the noble earl to the energetic and wise measures of the noble marquis in Ireland. who had done much to put down agi tation without resorting to measures of a more hostile nature. It was true several measures had been proposed for the relief of Ireland, but of all those measures, one only (the Subletting Act) could originate in that House. It had been found necessary to send to Ireland for further in formation respecting that and other measures, but the return of such information was daily expected, and certainly no time would be lost in bringing forward the Bills of which the noble Secretary had given notice. The Duke of WELLINGTON reminded the noble earl that the Proclamation Act would expire at the end of the present Session of Parliament, and he was desirous of asking whether it was in contem plation to renew the said Act before the end of the present Parliament. Earl GREY.—It is in contemplation to propose a renewal of that Act. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY praised the Government and measures of Lord Anglesey. The Earl of WICKLOW, in explanation, expressed his satisfaction with the excellent measures of the noble marquis. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, although many of the mea sures proposed for the benefit of Ireland were similar in object to those suggested during the late administration, yet the details diffired materially. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented a petition from Sun derland for repeal of the coal duties. POOR LAWS. The Marquis of SALISBURY presented the report of their lord ships' committee on the poor laws. The noble marquis observed, that the labours of the committee had been unceasing upon this important subject, and four hours had been expended that day in coming to a de cision whether they should present the report. They had heard a con siderable body of evidence, and their main object in bringing forward the report thus early, was to impress upon their lordships the great ad vantage the industrious classes would derive from receiving small allot ments of garden. ground. The Duke of RICHMOND agreed that small plots of land might to a certain extent relieve the distresses of the peasantry ; but he could by no means admit that to be the only measure of relief. It would be found in the west of England that there was a superabundance of la. bourers; the consequence was, that the price of labour was lowered, Mr. V. STUART wished to know whether the hon. mem' ot t t Wreetnnd intended to bring forward the question for the repeal : (boo, hear.) Mr. O'CONNELL replied, that would depend on the fete of t - C I • fonts motion ; if that were rejected, he hoped he should dn.. sew:. . hare an opportunity to move the repeal of the Union. Mr. HUNT presented a petition for reform from Kettling,Yorkshire. Mutiny A. GRANT presented the report of the mutiny bill ; also the: Mutiny Bill.—Ordered to be read a third time on Monday. atroaw OF PARLIAMENT. Lord J. RUSSELL moved that the older et the day for resit eerie the adjourned debate be read.—That having beer, done, Mr. GISBORNE said, he considered it became him to address the House modestly after the brilliant, but declamatory. %preen of the Honourable Baronet (Sir Robert Peel) on the opposite aide of the and great distress naturally followed. The noble duke weld not avoid House. It was not for so bumble an individual as himself to answer thinklog that emigration would afford relief, and lie thought it should all the arguments of the Honourable Baronet, but he should state in ,t be facilitated. lie had certainly opposed making a report of the k w pl a i n wor d s what his opinions were silent the subject. Tile Hon proceediegs of the committee. A great deal of imponunt evidence curable Baronet had assumed that we were in a state of the greate. • rat ained to he examined ; and it appeared to him to be an Irish prosperity—that we were living under the happiest and most glorious sort of proceeding to make a report before they acre in full pos. coestitution—and that, in fact, either we were happy and did hut know session of the facts. i to or enjoying felicity, and would not acknowledge it. He had swum. el 'fhe Marquis of SALISBURY contended that the allotment of large that what he was pleased to call the clamour of the country war not Ile. gardens to the poor must be productive of great advantage. cry of the people, but was the effect of an exeitetion produced Mall Earl STANHOPE agreed that large allotments would be preferebie wow unworthy motive, and that it was not mom :cling front the oat's. to small portions of garden-ground. It had been proved that the poor ral let Imp of the people, so that the House ought to take mitice of it. man ought to have mound to keep a cow. Th e a h o l e o f this proceeded on the most fallacious notion of the state Lord SUFFI ell/ had no objection to the plan of small allotments, lof the country and the condition of the people. If th e re p resentat i ve ., but he was persuaded that measures alone would rot produce effectual too, of the people appeared in that House to st a t e t h e gr i eva n ces o f t i :c i r relief. constituents, they were decried as intimitlants and exciters—(hear, he ee Lord TEVNHAM said, the best relief the Government could afford I hor),—and nut only so, but the whole was either thrown upon t. would be found in removing the excisemen out of the poet- man's hose e. cause itself, or else upon the Members or Ministers who brought Ins. Let them repeal the malt and hop duties. ward the complaints. When it had been so broadly stated that pros- The Earl of CA RN AR VON theught the time of the I.oese impro. peril reigned throughout the country, and the Constitution was mo of poly taken up in this Jesultury conversation. the happiest, he (ME Gisborne) thought he might make some spoil ie- LooKA EDER It A' pre ented a Petition (rune the mercherts..hip. query into the unmet in which. the House had performed its duttt • owners, led mho 4of Cork, praying that no additional duty be laid eel Originally the house, as it was said, was composed of two Bonn's, timber. . a Board of Trade and a Board of Taxation, which were afterworO, Earl GRP:Y presented a Petition from Okehampton for Reform in united, and from that time the two, no doubt, formed the priecieal Parliament. and extension of the elective franchise consideration of the house. Now it became the house to Show, diet ice Lord GOWER presented a Petition from Walsham to the snnc ef- the discharge of its duties every attention had been paid to the exc.- feet. &wee of the public money, which it would be impossible fur any lion. The Bills on their Lordships tabl e we r e f orwar d e d a stage, after nu:able Member or Honourable Baronet to show had been the coo. which the House adjourned at a Quarter to Seven o'clock. I Let the Honourable Baronet opposite (Sir R. Peel) take the two Net :. HOUSE OF COMMONS. I that were on the table—the book of the pen s ions and th e b oo k o r places, and say whether or not, from the state of those books, The gallery was again excessively crowded, and in the house there a Reform in Parliament was nut loudly called for.—(Cheers.) was nearly as thronged an attendance of members as on any former oc- The public money had been most wastefully expended, and taxation leet casion at prayers, for the sake of securing seats. been levied with the most oppressive hand, the keeping of expendituto o'con MAN MAHON. within income not having been accomplished. 'I he house had been Mr. F. LEWIS presented the report of the Clare Election Commit- told, too, that there were already symptoms o f reaction ; but he should tee, which declared that the return of O'Gorman Mahon was void, and be glad to know in what those symptoms consisted. Ile believed that that O'Gorman :.iahon, by his friends or his agents, has been guilty of the reaction was only known, or its eymplonts, to the hen. hart. and r bribery. O'Gorman Mahon, however, was present, and remained few others on his side of the house. The present n.casure had I:::erie seated on the Treasury Bench, even after the report had been read.— been described as a revolutionary measure. Ile wished to say casein.; The Speaker beckoned to the ex-member rather significantly, where. uncivil to those who had so characterised it, but he really did nut 'hies. upon O'Gorman Mahon rose and quitted the House. that, though they said so, they entertained any such belief. It they A new writ for Clare was afterwards ordered. had entertained this idea, why did they nut oppose the bill in the tiro ELECTION COMMITTEE RETORTS. instance, and why did they not mean to 'he w th e i r strength against t: Lord L. GOWER presented the Report of the Grantham Elec. .o . n . the . present occasion e Why did they not, as the hon. member fur tion Committee , which confirmed the return of the sitting member. Is an:eloped , few nights ago, in allusion to another subj ect, had said Lord STANLEY presented a similar report front the Hythe Elec. —why did they nut spew th e y wo u ld ra th e r d ie in th e f irst ditch than tion Committ submit to the introduction of such a meas u r e into parliament. The Lord DUN Committer. N took the oaths and his seat for Kilkenny conduct of ministers had been objected to al s o on t h e groun d t h en CA NNO County. there had been no deduction, or comparatively no deduction, mace Mr. BYNG brought in the Grand Juries Water Works Acts by then) in the finance department, or in the taxes upon the pct - Amendment Bill. plc. (Hear, hear.) It had be e n s aid th at t h ere h a d b een no de nts CITY REFORM PETITION. duction made, but that of lopping off 62 members from the number of The Sheriffs of London presented of London, in favour a petition from the Common the proposed plan of Reform. (Loud re representatives in the House of Commons. C o n s id e rin g t h e li tt l euse t h e: Council of of that deduction ought not to have been received with something like a show of gratitude. (Cheers tend a laugh.) With regard to the Mr. Alderman WOOD moved that it be printed. It was some proof finances, there was a very wide difference between the state of the lune:. that the Corporation of London were not afraid of their charter, and now and when the last Government were in offi ce . Th e f uo d s were did not suppose that reform would at once destroy their rights and pro now sonwohere about 70, and at th a t time th e y w ere a b ou t JO' . if perty(cheent). He believed there was only one exception to the petition at the meeting—all felt that there was ground for confidence in the Minis- they had been as high now as th e n, h e e nte r t a i ne d no t a s i ng l e d ou b t ten, and in the Ministers' measures. that a considerable retrenchment would have be e n m a d e by th e p reset Government. (Hear, hear.) Again, the House had been told tete Mr. Alderman WAITH lAN would at present only express his ap. measure was to bring forward an operation of novelty—that they Ohio probation of the petition, and of the Ministers' p'an. After the declare- supported it were novelists. Thie, however, had been set at rest lest night by the Honourable Member tor Westminster. Had the homier. don of the Member for Boroughbridge (Sir C. Wetherell) this petition was necessary. able and Teamed member fat Boroughbridge (Sir Chas. Wetherell ) bee e Sir J. MACINTOSH said, that he regretted the absence of certain In his place, he should hav e t ek e d him what act of non could have hatl Learned Members, who had as it were appealed to the City of Londow the power to have made a law for the regulating of all future ages as against the measure of Reform. The award was given, and it was Parliumentary Representatives. He was prepared to deny that my against those who had called for It. The award showed that the Cit set of men, at any period, could have been, or could he, found of London was not to be scared by the appeals to Judge Jefferies, and with such power, and if there were to be robbery in the opera the times of James 11. He should regret the fallen of the bill, or any don of the present measure, he voluntarily enrolled himself change of ministers; but he would say, that even if they failed, they ae an accessary before the fact. (Loud cheers and a laugh.)-. would have enjoyed power long enough to propose this most beneficent One of the benefits which would result front the proposed measure was and useful measure, and he should rejoice that he had lived to see this that which ought to recommend it more than any other to the favour great measure proposed. (Hear.) He trusted the example of London of the country—namely, that the power of becoming a Member of I'ar. would be generally followed. Harnett was placed within the reach of every man in a respectable sta. Mr. CALCRAFT, on behalf of those who were absent, begged to tion of society. (Hear.) He was determined to take his stand I y this say that he had heard nothing of an appeal to the city of London; and i plan, because he thought it a full and effectual measure. He was not as to the boroughs about to be disfranchised, it was proposed to deprive one of those who wished for an annual change of Parliament, nor for those of rights who had committed no fault, no crime. Though he any experimental changes in the Constitution of the country. But when was peculiarly interested, he should endeavour to peefonn his duty. experience taught that the established forms of the legislature were far Lord LENNOX (we believe) said the corporation of Chichester had behind public intelligence, then the changes ought to t.ke place, and expressed its approbation of the ministers' measure. He feared he , that to, upon such a large scale as would prevent popular excitement. (Continued cheers.) lie approved of this chan ge , a n d was f ree to ad should not be able to present the petition this evening. If the measure , could not be carried, he trusted the government would forthwith die- mit that it the measure of the ballot should be introduced, he should solve the parliament, and appeal to the country. I oppose that and all other measures which might induce excitement and Lord MORPETH said the distance he was from the great body of agitation. (Cheers.) To those who said that there was more danger hi s constituents made it impossible for him to state accurately their in going on than in standing still, he would say. in the words of Lord opinion as to the measure of R e form i n t ro d uce d by government, but . Bacon—es Tame is the great lIIDOVatOr. Time, of course, (lunges thine, from informalon he had received, he believed he was perfectly war. for the want of wisdom, and cannot, will not change them fur the beta ranted in stating their cordial approbation of the plan, and that they tar, whatever be the end." As to the bumourous description a!,o u t a were grateful to his Majesty's Ministers for the boon about to be be. retrenchment of sixty-two Members, he believed the Otioioeie were stowed.—(Hear.) I sincere in their desire of retrenchment, but that they could not effect Mr. J. S3IITH declared that th e w h o l e o f t h e co u ntry demanded ' them with the present house. But the present measure was one ot rob ! Reform. [eery as well as of revolution. Robbery !of what ? of lands, chattels' Mr. SYKF.S concurred in this sentiment. Yorkshire, almost to a'No : not even of municipal sights. What the corporations enjoyed man, was in favour of the plan. was a trust. and there was a power to resume the trust when that Mr. CALVERT said the borough of Southwark was unanimous in should be deemed beneficial to the interests of the country. (Cheers.) their approbation of the measure introduced by government. A meet- The boroughs were not wanted to secure talent in the plum ; why in g wa s to be held in the Town-hall, and he had no doubts in a few they w e re desired to be retained was, that there might be :timbers days he should have to present a petition on the subject, signed by many who could be " counted upon." (Cheers.) he should support the mea thousands. sure in its present form—and resist change of it—in unite to prevent a Mr. HUNT said he was a liveryman of the City of London ; be division. should be disfranchised be-cause he was non-resident; and lie thanked Mr. FRESHFIELD denied that the Tight hon. baronet's speech was GOD and the Ministers for it. (Cheers.) He approved of the plan declamatory only, and declared that he considered the measure was because it did touch the base assumptions of power by corporations.— moat revolutionary. There was much in the preposition to surprise He did not say the plan went tar enough, because it still withheld I and alarm, and therefore it was desirable to see the bill, that they might rights. Ile maintained that every man had the right of contributing to before they decided ascertain whether it did not contain more than the making of the lass. He knew of no petition (two from Bristol and even the motion threatened. Did the bill intend to continue the sent another place) against any limitation of that right, the withholding or and lot voters ? If so, the measure was inconsistent. it was asked, enjoyment of which distinguished the slave and the freeman. As to whether the opponents of the measure desired to resist all :cream. He the corporation of London, it was not a political body, it was a jobbing w as fur practical reform, but reform that was consistent with the con. body,and wits appointed to scavenger the city and have i s streets swept. I stitution—that constitution under which he hoped lung to live. (Hem.) —The Common Hall of Monday would, however, no doubt support He did not wish to prevent such reform as would increase the mirky of the plan. election. He was friendly to reform, but lie was against revolution : Mr. Alderman THO3IPSON said, the body aid not deserve h e war against theoretical and experimental changes. As to danger to this description. It had acted well, and in the most exemPimY j the country, if the measure did not pass, he did no: apprehend it. He, manner; but the extinction of corporate rights contemplated h e could h owever , w i s h e d t h at t h e ministers would not give them the trouble of not approve. I defeating the measure. (A laugh.) This measure was not one of ',- Mr. D. W. HARVEY observed, that it was a mistake to suppose Mon, but of destruction. As to the measures contemplated they mere that these measures would disturb corporate rights—the power to do i not new—they were felted up and down in all the settlings of reformers.. mischief would still remain. The pl a n h a d hi s warmest approbation, i But be that fact as it might, the budget measur o were such as not to ev en though he believed no member would be more affected by it than ind u ce him or the country to have too much confidence in the ministry, Mama . ; yet, even if he were hereafter excluded from that honour on I they having been ready to tax the transfers of stock, in violation of which he so tower prided himself- he should still rejoice in having as. faith, and acts of parliaments. (Loud cries of question.) He deemed eisted to carry such a measure. He settled, that Colchester univerallY th stobe a question—it was one of confidence in the ministers. The approved of the measure. proposition about wines was also a violation of law. (Oh, and question.) Mr. CA PEL said, he would not oppose the plan. And all these were front intermeddling ministers, whose principle was Mr. CALCRAFT observed, that the place which he represented th a t of non-intervention, and who, under the guise of reform, sought to had scot and lot votes, and that the voters could and did act We- c h a n ge the constitution—change iron' which he trusted that GOD would pendently. fur ever deliver them. Ald. WA I TH3IA N bore testimony to the manner in which the About eri members next rose. Corporation ware elected, and regretted that it should have been donned :Ur I/UM:011113R caught the Speaker's eye. He could not give a right to attack its members in a body. silent vote on the momentous question now berme them. He had long Petition ordered to be jointed. thought that some salutary Reform might be introduced into the repre- Ald. THOMPSON, at the request of some friends, postponed till sentadon ; but to tins measure lie must give his decided opposition, as Monday the presentation of the petition of the Shipowners of the altogether revolutionary--destructive of the Government of the country, City of London. and most tyrannical towards the Labouring and productive classes of the - --- community).—(Loud cheers.) On what grounds were they to be de. priced, unheard, of the rights pole:owed 1 The Ministers said they had a precedent fur it in the instance of the disfranchisement of the forty. shilling freeholder's. He never did, and never would vote for such a disfranchisement—it was one that could not be quoted as a precedent. Sixty boroughs were to be disfranchised, and forty-seven boroughs half disfranchised. If the Bill ever got to a Committee, which he trusted it would not, he should resist their disfranchisement. As to the Bill set. ding the question, it would in reality only open it ; but they were told that the Cabinet was unanimous in favour of the Bill. How was that unanimity prov,d ? Why the Chancellor of the Exchequer had de. dared for the vote by ballot; and in the debate on Thursday, only one member of the Cabinet had spoken in suppmt of the measure. That noble lord (Palmentoo) had declared, amongst other matters, that he doubted not Mr. Canning would now have supported Reform. The opinion was founded on a sentiment adopted by Mr. Canning at the conclusion of his speech on the Silk Trade, in 1826. He, however, could not think that Mr. Canning would so have swallowed at one gulp all his beautiful speeches on the subject of Reform. When he heard so much about the united Cabinet, and recollected the sentiments hereto. IRELAND. Sir ROBERT FERGUSON presented a petition from the appren tice boys of Londonderry. The hon. member expressed himself against the repeal of the Union. Mr. O'CONNELL said, he felt more than ever, that if the repeal were not conceded, Ireland would cease to form part of the British em pire. The country would become more and more distressed, except the distress was checked by a measure now before the house. Perhaps he had better information on this subject than the hon. ban. He had considered it year after year The more he was convinced of the neces sity, and the more universal was that idea becoming. There was no safety for Ireland, if not protected by a legislature of its own ; but he be. tiered that a repeal of the union would be beneficial to both countries. He would not then enter into the question of the propriety of arming the Irish Government with more authority. The Lord Lieutenant had now the power to forbid all meetings, even if they were called for the purpose of charity. How far he had exercised properly that power on a late occasion, he ( Mr. O'Connell) would not then inquire. (Hear.) Sir R. BATESON declared that the repeal would be the separation 1