Star. — London, England, 1814-11-19 00:00:00

1 ( /:‘ , tea, • P - 1‘ .(1 . 17.‘ OSk. 7 , *lb Ai (4 4 ‘ Pr ' l, 11 V": • P .P.t, .. ~..._. N .1 , 647. I Pi I r /7=o virvember 10, 1614. NOTICE it hereby germ, 733 t a &slime of Orr aid Termite , and Goal I,:tet ery, fie the 7 riot .1 9 . l t resses tow:ink nn the High Seas, SO; WA the jetirdietion of Me eLhnitalty of Bviond, call h a .Taittite Noll, in the Old Bailey, London, on Tuesday, Ihe 13th of Decanbei atitt, at eight o'clock in Me mooriaino. J. W. CROK BA. HOUSE, Noventior s, 11514* THE COURT of DII?EC7DES of the UNITED COMPANY of MERCHANTS of ENGLAND,trairsz . 1e the EAST do lotrekv give notice, That a Quarter'y General Court of the said Company wM be held at their Nouse in Leadenhall.street, on WEDNESDAY, the 21st December next, at Eleven o'Clock in the Forenoon, for the purpose of declaring a Dividend from Midsummer last to Chi bt11123 MIL JAM 4 'S COBB, Secretary. EAST INDIA HOUSE, Newly/63r ‘2, t Rl4. THE COURT of DIRECTORS of the UNITED, COMPANY of MERCHANTS of JE NGL A ND, trolly to the EAST INDIES, do hero", give notice, • That the Transfer Books of the said Compaor*Stook will be shut on THURSDAY, the 24th instant, at Two °Clock, awl opened again on TUESDAY. the 17th January follnwing; And that the Dividend Warrants on the said Stock, due on the Sth January nett, will be ready to be delivered on WILDNES DAY, the 11th Of the same month. JAMES COBB, Secretory. PARLIAMENIWAr PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, NOV. 18. Counsel were beard in continuation and fully, respecting the third Appeal in the Cause between General W. Robertson and the Duke of Athol. Judgment postponed. In the fourth Appeal between the said p..rdes, Sir S. Ron' XXI' and Mr. J. P. GRANT were beard for the Appellant. Farther Dearing to take place on Monday. bard EXMOUTH presented two Petitions respecting certain AVCeases, which were ordered to lie on the table. Semen and Royal Mar.nes Pension Bill was brought up front the Commons by Mr. Caoste. and other Members, and forthwith rer.l a first time. On the motion of the Eatl 01 SHAfTellt/RY, the BM was erdived to baread a second tints on Monday, to which day their Ididsides adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. LUSHINGTON presented a Petition from the Hackney Coach Masters, for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal that of hat Session. 'Orde red to lie on the table. He then obtained leave to briog in the Bill. The Milt Duty Bill, the Bid for an issue of Exchequer Bills in aicka tin Supplies of she yak, and the East India Goods Duty Bill, were read a- first time. Mr. BARING brought up the Bf.l for imprming the London Docks, wilds snit read a first time. The Committee on the French Lace Bill was postponed till Ziewebey. • Ms. P. MOORE pra:msted a Petition from Admiral Gyaves, ratile to his b e ingdsprived of certain Estates in the Admiral_ ds which was ordered to be read. It stettd, that in right • ebbs Wife he became entitled to one sixth share of one of tl:«: Bahama Islands, with t'. royalties, duties, &c. thereto app,r tainiag; but that he tad been wholly deprived of this property, amounting In value to Xe. 00,000„ by the undue influence of the and Milltary.Oruxrs of the Crown, and kad no redress at aullmOn law. TIM Pitittion entered into all the partr.eu:ars (it sitelease ; R was ordeted to be on the tale. The,Hocse rent into a Committee ori the Irish Duties Act, which, and the Re'soTutloui, 'erre hgreed tevz • • ..,.' le.X.CorsusittFe on the Cotton Wool Bull, leave was given for • a BM to amend the same, for continuing the impoititiun of Cot ton-brio 'treat Itritaitt. asveral OttitCl%* • .%11Acis were ordered to I N revived. PRESL;tV ATION OF THE PEACE BILL. Mr, PEELS. on moving for a Bill to amend this Mt; Observed, that the Housevnuld recollect, that atilt late peri , ;;; '3f the last Session he had broukht feritard two irhpisrrant measures relative to the state of Ireland; one a temporary, and the other a pee. naspent measure. T a permanent measure, known by the isaleof the Preservation of the Peace 11;11, enlblett the Lord Lieulenaat to proclaim certain dis. Wets, in''etniefitaitragei were committed, to be in a state-of digisrbariee* , and to appoint Superintending Magistrates and extraordinary Constables for the re storation of•• tranquillity. But doubts having arisen . whether, if disturbanees broke out in two adjoining Baronies, it was lawful w appoint more than one See perintending Maestrate, the object of the new Bill w.rs to authorise the appoiaiment of two, when neces sary. As the Act was of so much importance, it might be expected that he Should state what had been the results of its oration. He had the satisfaction to declare; tlintit hid been attended with the best effects ; and ) tIMC it has on ito-occasion been found . necessary to resort to the more severe but temporary measure,•cedthed the Insuitection Act. And with re spect to the permanent .measure, it had only been found necessary to Ott in force in one single instance, at thiddlebtti" in the County of Tipperary, where its'ciperlations effetted almost immediate tranquillity, and without the exercise of any extraordinary rigour. The fact was, that the inhabitants of the districts, ' aware that the expences of the Constables, Sec. would; fall upon them, if they were proclaimed, had a for cible inducement to come forward and detect the dis turbers, and induce the lower orders to be obedient to the hw.• So great, indeed, had been their exer dons, that he had the pleasure to state that one oh the men Who committed the horrible murder of a Magi strife, the patticolars of which he related' when moving forifie 'Ballast Session, bad lately been apprehended ' . In refutation of the assertions of disaffected persons, in al* Colllitiy, who bad represented the IM;ilStire as uncalled, for, and only introduced to afford some new patronage to the Government, he stated, that so fat frotnihisbeint the case, the Superintending blaO• sitatel had; tot salary ;• but on their representing that they. could not act under the Bill without considerable pecuniary losses, Government had promised to afft.ird theta some proper indemnity. Leave wis then given to bring in the Bill, which was. read a first, and ordered to be read a second rinse on Mondays HACKNEY-COACTIES. NXt,LTJPI I IIINGI'ON, alluding to the Act Or trp lint Session, ior amending the Hackney coach lii l; stated•tliattlfose ctiuses relat:ve to the issue of dike* which had ken adopted'on the representationlitistits Metolll roach -maters, as a probable means of pre varatisig. simk.frauds committed by the drivers upon their employers, had been found not to answcr the purpose. A long correspondence had taken flace since these dailies had beenin forte, and it was noW deemed necessary t o suspend tbeit opesatioa • but it I ;a 2 Pr7bahii that tome /sew 'q** fieZuiettari be. SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 19,• 1814. proposed at a future period ; in the mean time he should move for leave for a Bill to amend the Hack ney-coach Act.—Leave given. Mrs. Reynolds's Estate Bill was read a 2d time. PROPERTY TAX. _ The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER having moved for the House to go into a Committee of Supply Mr. GRENFELL said, that after hearing the ob servations of the Right Hon. Gentleman upon this subject, on the preceding evening, it was not his in tention to go into any arguments respecting the pro priety or impropriety of continuing the tax. His only object was to express a hope, that if it was found ne cessary to bring in a new Bill, that it would contain some provision for softening the severities of that ini quitous power which presses and bears so hard upon • the community, and which, he would assert, was felt as a greater grievance upon the mind than the tax itself was upon the pocket.. He alluded to the in quisitorial power of the Commissioners. He also hoped that there would be some provision to render the tax less unequal and less unjust in its operations respecting the quotas. What he meant was, that per. Ms of the middle class of life, possessing incomes of from about 8200 to 8.500 a-year, ought, by no prin. ciple of justice, to be subjected to pay in the same pro portion as those who had from 45000 to 7000, or Je20,000 a-year. He also trusted that there would be found in the Act, if renewed, some restrictions or penalty upon the Commissioners, to secure the public from the exposure of whatever the Commissioners may know of their circumstances, through their offi cial capacity. He must observe, that he did not allude to the Commissioners for General Purposes, but to those for the affairs of taxes ; and he should only add, that if such a clause were not introduced into the Bill, he should propose one himself. ARMY EXTRAtiRDINARIEs. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, on moving that the House should go into a Commit tee of Supply, and the Speaker having left the Chair, stated, that it was his intention to move that the bills of exchange drawn for the service of the Army Ex traordmaries be referred to the Committee. From the appearance o, the House, however, at that time, (there being very few Members present) he would rather prefer mer , iy to move the vote for a provision for the current service, and not at present to detain the Houie by entering into details of the arrange ments. The total amount of the Army Eztraordi naries now reviled was nearly ten millions, and he only proposed to move, that a sum not exceeding eight tudFon, be granted, to make good the Bills dr.ovn on Li., na;e:ity's Treasury for this service, up to the Ist o ! ISI4 ._ _ Mr. TIERNEY said t:e Rig'it Honourable Gen tkintin now called on the Hiln,e to vo:e the sum of even millionsrAsnlraecatiai- he wants it ; and-eould really think that is the way we .night to go on ? He could sc.: no difficulty in making up tile accounts on •:lie past of Government and yet We Committee were called on to vote eigut millions without any particulars before them. The House shook& bear in mind that they had, last zeal, voted nine =lons for this branch of expenditure ; and of this great sum no satisfactory account whatever had.be.n readtred, ex cept that it was expended on the artily. is gone no one %.:ows Low, and yet we are to ask no ques tions. He etas even exceed:d these nine millions b ; 'ten more, and an additional /1'850,00‘), from the Vote of Credit. Therefore the amount was almost twenty niiilions. No 'doubt the Right Honourable Gentle ' man . bought that be ihraald be able to carry his p.,int, atcl, per.laps, he Might be right. All that he himself could do, was to protest against it ; bi:t he would say it was the must indecorous mode that had ever been adopted. But he would beg the Committee not to lose sight of the long adjournment that might be in contemplation, and connect this with the length of time the y might have to wait for the accounts. He had understood' the Right Honourable Gentleman, that this day he did mean to go into the state. ments at large, and particularly into those of the sub sidiary engagements cf this country. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that he had no other motive in urging farther delay than that he conceived it might be convenient to the House to defer for a short time the explana tions in question. For his own part he was neither un willing nor unready to go into the-stibject at once.— It was nothing less than the extraordinary circum stances which must be in the recollection of every Gentleman in the House, that would prevent the ac counts from being made up for some time in detail; and therefore he had thought it best to wait for a full explanation till they could be produced. -If the great mount of the army expenditure was only looked at, it might be thought that nothing could justify such a large disbursement of Oa: public money. But it should be borne in mind, that the great object of this expen diture had been attained; and when he should shew that these supplies had enabled Lord Wellington to, carry on a war from the frontiers of Portugal into France, he must think t1...1t this result would be proved to have been as much the consequence of the liberality of thlt House as of any thing else. The ac counts woul.l clearly shew, that nearly nineteen mil lions of money had been required for the Army Ex traordinaries. He was about to state how this money had been expended, as titta:lyas possible. The amount of the hills *damn on the Treasury from different quarters amounted to nearly nineteen millions, the principal of which were as follows: From Gine/my and Taney ,e 24,000 From 1400•1414 46,000 From the Wirth of:GavofleY 1,411,000 FrOm Sraiti, Por&pl, and the South of Frame 8,612,000 ?rem Gibraltar and the ktedlterraosan 4,259,000 ' Fre= *the •W eit Indio* . 7 • 854.9 00. FrOlti North America . • 1,000,0110 From Bomb America • 233,000 . _ . These, together with other smaller sums, made the amount very near nineteen millions, as would be clearly shewn when the accounts were made up. It trazllt he proper that he should talcs a view a( the . knation in which this country stood in 1812, at the I when the explosion between Russia and France was on the eve of taking place. Ministers had telt that a great crisis, not only for this country, but for all surrounding nations, was then at hand. That power which should prevail over the other in the con teat, it was obvious, would preside over the destinies of Europe. If France had succeeded in tifrecting the sithj , igation of Russia, Ent;lt would have stood alone against a world in are.. Fc. , 2ling this, a larger expenditure than the exrerienco of former times had authorised, appeared.to Ministers justifiable at such a period. Bus the House must.be • aware that nothing short of an ex l ere. that might be called unlimited could have efftx:rc-t so grand an object. But he well recollected that when it became his duty to propose a measure, the object of which was to enable this coun try to carry on the war, without making any imme diate- increase in the burthens of the people, the Right Hon. Gentleman ,opposite (Mr.. Tierney) had said, “ now such funds were provided, he supposed they should'have vigorous war. and he should net be sur prised if theyavere exhausted in one year." There had been " vigorous war." In this respect the Right Hon. Gentleman bad not been disappointed—but in another he had; at least, that which he had appre hended had not taken place : three yews had riot annihilated those means which he had feared would be exhausted in one. To revert, however, to the ge neral explanations which be had to offer, he must üb -serve, that when the deplorable event occurre,i, which, by depriving the country of a most able and amiable man, he had had the honour of being plated in the situation which he now held, Lord Wellington had written home to say, that lie found it impossible to undertake the great operations which he had in view, with any military force, unless he could be as. sisied with great pecuniary supplies ; that he was in fact, chained to the coast: but if Le were supplied with at least 4100,000 per month, he thought he could do much. It was deemed proper to supply him with 415.1,000 per month. He did not know the precise slate of the arrangement; but it was some time in the summer of 1812, and previous to his ad vance to the battle of Salamanca ; and the course taken by the Treasury shews how greatly these cir cumstances (the victories and the supplies) depended u i ton one another. He would now merely state the amount of the sums transmitted to that great Conl in older in the course of the present year. The bills drawn in the South of France amounted to R 3,300,000 in specie, including, however, a 'part which was car ried to America by the detachment which embarked from thence. There was exported to South America' nearly 4400,000, and to this was to be added nearly R 12,000,000 drawn by the Commissioners at Gibral tar and the Mediterranean, which was for the most part applied to the same :unitary purposes. By what 44. ‘ . had statad r -ho. seuiand.-tan Jaaci , aufficiastlF *lied the necessity of making exertions beyond all calculation. It required all the ability and all the c-mbinAtions of that great Commander, the Duke of Wellington, to effect the movement of a large army throu h a country so ravaged. It was a sort of pro ve:•', in Spain, that with a small army a General :light march through their land, but a large force must be starved in it. But, aided by the co-operation of his GovernMent, the Duke of Wellington was ena bled to march a large - force through that country, cad procure them full-supplies. He would now state something of the amount of assistance given to our Allies, after the glorious reverses of fortune to the enemy in the North of Europe. The House would recollect, that by the Treaty with Austria, Russia,. and Prussia, it was agreed to advance £5,000,000 to those three Powers, supposing the war to last u whole year, and the proportion of two months to Austria and Prussia, and four months to Russia, to enable their tro.,ps to return. He had now to say s that the wh le of these sums had been paid, with the excep tion of a trifling difference 6f balance to Russia, which heed tris us out of a slight misunderstanding respect ing the Russian fleet which had been in our ports. Some doubts had arisen as to the party liable to this expense, and this point war left tobe settled.between the Noble Lord now at Viel:na and the Russian Gn. vernment. Tate amount of the sums paidwas in the' proportion of seven mouths of ; a third of the 45,000,000 to Russia, or AJ,250,000 , ; and the. amount art the sum in disvute: might be about, £lOO,OOO. To Sweden we had stipulated to pay. 41,200,000 or 4100,000 per month, provided the war lasted a year. By an additional article Sweden received three months' subsidy for the return of her mops, besides the five months' payment, fbr their services, which made in all ,6800,000. — Ate Danes. by t he treaty with them which was men % tleased in the House last year, were to furnish 10,000' men, and were ta receive 415 . 0,000 a-year for their maintenance. There was also the annual payment to Sicily of 4400,000. Hanover was to furnish 15,000 men, and receive 447,500; but only a part of this sutp. had been paid by this country, and even this was to be refunded; so that ultimately this country would not bear any part of the expense. Portugal, as had been often stated, required to be assisted with two millions a year. With Spain, however, no such rc. gulation had been made; but 41,000.000 alear had been given from the vote of credit to Spain, of which an account bad been kept by the Treasury here, and ' would be produced when wanted. Respecting the engagement of the subsidiary corps of Hanoverians, they were at first employed under the Crown Prince' of Sweden, but they had since been occupied in gar risoning the Netherland.. To this corps seven months' subsidy had been paid—five for their service, and two for their return : the othor.pagt of the arrange- Mint be had just explained. The total amount paid mig,ht- therefore be stated as fellows : roserVOl moths to Attottio To Roads To Prowls . • To/wedge - • T. fibroid (nine otooths) iiiisdis) =yes modiiiio OM* • . a • . h'9711.000 . . 1 , 2 503000 955,004 • 800,000 1,800,800 • 888,000 47,509 ,v• Denmark (fur the year) 1 5 0 ,r,00 it v 40 • a OO T.ie total sum remaining to be furnished was less than 17,300,000; so that, with the vote of cred t passed for the 13,000,000, the failing short was only 4100,000. The Right Honourable Gentleman then observed, that he had entered into details whi.h were not strictly connected with the subject b.sire the Hinise; but till the accounts .:rn:d be completely made up, a perfect view of the Army Expenditures could not. possibly be taken; but t;.e asnouat pro posed to be voted would about balance the apparent deficiency. The difference to be made good would be about £2,000,000, t a liq •idate the remaining ex cess of the Army Extraordittaries, and this was what he now proposed to take. The Right . -Honourable Gentleman then observe;!, as 2 giound.of high con gratulation to the country, • th t awl :considerable saving of expense had already .I: 11' less, in deed than about £2,000r10 a month below that of last year ; and whenever iorniaat lie passible to bring die war with .America to a clesa, we shetut/have-the • prospect of so conaiderahle anedoction ia the public • charges as to hold out ti.e brightest paospects. It , might not be ;4 much to eapack that this realuCtion would amount VC Are Milfihns mi month. At atesent we must only leak. to a taintintrtnee of great reef. tions. The House would hardly think it Itetesaary that he should.go into any farther slap' inatious at.prea scot; although' he sltould a:opese sa:tit coagd.:llce s though errt "niy LOt wit* . t b:;l..rie a SIM t . t as AS,O3O,IXX) for Extraordihary E..lafenfelt of the ArinY; ••• •• ' • •• • • Mr. TIER NEY. said, that if ;ever there was a tin* when.we mast feel rates tegi,tl4 thou at another on a being told of the nece ssity It.: new and great exert - - tions, that oc c a s ion w as the piesent.', Ali that had been' said only co:tinned Mtn still 'more id the opi nien that the How ought not- to vote the stun that • was asked* foi widuain those d xiimentary explana tions which had been demanded ; or if it di l l a it would not do its duty. For it would enable the Right flo. nourablC Gentleman to come and say at allytaae—. You vote the Money, for I hive not leisure to makeup the accounts." It was the t'cu .1 custom, when anoney was required, to say that great exertions were necessary, but we now know the meaning of the phrase. When groat exertions were now spoken of, it was meant to say---a , they are exertions, of the extent of which you need not be ilifnrmed, but have only to meet them by vast supplies." In this way the Government has dealt unfairly by the House, by assuming that any engagement, of whatever nature, which they might think proper to enter into, would be complied with without inquiry. But he begged the House to consider whether it were not most ne cessary to convince them that they were not to be al lowed thus to go on in their career. Fur it was evidtnt t i kaaaao kipg.ilas owned since the (jodi of July wills teWir aair itiVirthe'potataehrrar *VCR Zarroilr: -. able 'Gentleman to mote Parliament acquainted.— But hareturn tor their confatence, he had dealt with themes if they ought and were accustomed to be kept in the d.irk. lie would say, as an independent Member of PJrliatitent, that it was utterly impossible to go on in-this *ay. Tie Right 1-lan. Gentliiman puts down twenty millions upon one piece of paper, and asks foriit viittsisis much ease as when he (Mr. Tierney) ,firat.tame.into Parliament a hundred Of two thousands used to be 'asked for by .Mral'itt, and this too without answering any of our inquiries as to what is the work, and who ate the workmen that this enormous loin is to. pay ? we Make any inquiries, the answer is—" iriniae: would yon wish to palsy the arm sal Goireramein?". They now say-46 We wan; ten millions; furnish es with eight, and we will give you argupents Err the other twc."—(.Laveuer.) He unurd say, that if the Howe consented to these demands, it - would irard in a most ungracioni atti tude before the:country. It was pronoutced that • • great exertioas ware•*neceasary. `lord de we know what these weal exertions are ? The fact seems to • have been Atli the 'Right • lionatira'ale Gentleman was out in his calculations. He has got Parliament togetheir before Christmas; tirttFbleesuae it -is before CilliStlMM.ll* this money isuiraated 4 we must vote it without iaak- 1 47. rabr IZia .ovin PIO he ; would de. dine tla.a I.e as not saliatted bl, the smallest wish to thrOw embarriisaients :n fh nay of GOvernment hut Ite vioti!d inert, that this WItS tl-ae most tiny/Pet ted attempt evermszde upon aheiblindest' confidence o f Parliament. He would ask wiettlsev time Hanove rian troops, in garris on in tee Nellwai.tods formed part of the seventy- fi ve emousand ineu which we were bound to keep up by the Treaty of Chatiiisont?-- CThe CuAK6CLLOR of the EXMCCIVIteraIahATTed IKTOSS . the' TA* L." Thee eentioued i • V.A he hadatood grounds for refusing his e oaaj ataaa i • the vote; for he had now ascertained that we vale to pay these troops—or perhaps we were to be repaid 'by Hanover The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER denied that he had slifil that the money was to be re. paid by Hanover, but that it would be accounted for to the country, and one half of it would be repaid. Mr. TIERNEY.—" Repaid by Hanover ?" The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUE.R. 54 No." . Mr. TIERNEY.—" That's sufficient for my put pose."—(A. laugh.) Mr. TIERNEY resumed. It then appeared that Hanover was to have lenity shewn her 'older this blessed treaty, and we were to pay all R e cxpens;:s of the 75000 troops ; while because Hanover lLts been advanced to the dignity of a kiwgdona, she is to be let off hom her share of the expenses. Did the Right Houour.thle Gentleman mean to say, that Hat nover has no mon?) , ? Was it not rather bard t.lat the people of this chuntry slmld be . calbd oa to p..y away their money in such a manner, when i: is a fact that every farthing of our outgoings rm.st be nude good by new tins..? But it was sti:l am re extraordi nary that we had to pAy for s!lipping ; and because some Russian ships had come here, v:e were to pay a subsidy for shlps of war. [Sv ens PRICE. SIX PENCE-HA' I•'PFNNY•