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Cie 1 ' ilipmempirais o f l a! PiIIiLI,III(EIVTARr PROCEEDINGS. and 1.--., of pr HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY so, to ca 'The LORD CHANCELLOR, in the Committee of ' Privi- Nobi Itles, moved to postpone the further consideration of the Roxe the I !'' burgh case till Tuesday next, on which day he should bring for- Li Ward certain resolutions.—Agreed to. - censt The Trish Warehousing Bill, the Oil of Vitriol Bill, and the Soots Roads Bill, were read a third time and passed. tern The Loan Bill, the Isle of Man Customs Consolidation Bill, spirit and the Scots Excise Officers Superannuation Bill, passed through jest. Committees and were reported. press The Exchequer Bills Bill, the Irish Insolvent Debtors' Bill, the Churchwardens and Overseen' Accounts Bill, and the Poor next Laws Amendment Bill, were read a second time, and committed men for Friday. bons The second reading of a Bill from the Commons, for carrying the 1 ' into effect 'he bequest of Anna Maria Reynolds to the Sinking • - loud, was objected to by the LORD CUA NOEL LOA, who observ- ed, that if the will of this person was gond, there was necessity ing I for an Act of Parliament to carry it into effect ; and if it was not his 2 ' good, it was a subject for very serious consideration, whether Lion they slimed, by Act of Parliament, deprive her relatives of what L they might he entitled to on failure of the will. The second read- ing of the Bill was deferred. Lor The second reading of the Bere Forest Bill was, after tome 'I eonversation between Lords Walsingham ' Holland, Grantley, Hood of Catherington, and the Earl of Suffolk, postponed till Friday. The Order for hearing Counsel on the London Docks Bill vas , discharged, and the Lilt read a third time and passed. The Embezzlement Bill was, on the motion of the Marquis' „ 'I Of LA N SDOWNE, read a third ti th e, and passed with an Amend- Rol went. don The Scots Courts Regulation Bill was, on the motion of Lord t h e - Viscount Metvitte, read a. second time, and committed for .. t , Tuesday, for which day the Lords were ordered to be sum- p ub ble moned. The second reading of the Stamp Duties Surplus Appropriation at 1 Bill was fixed for Friday. his SCOTS JUDICATURE. .1 . Earl STANHOPE moved, that the Commissioners of Scots star Judicature be ordered to give to the House respectively the par- ticulars of their various and discordfact opinions. tun The Earl of LIVERPOOL and the LORD CHANCELLOR spe thought the motion should be worded more respectfully.—Notice A r was then given of the Motion for Friday. taut • The Embezzlement Bill was read a third time and passed. it PRIVATELY STEALING BILL. The order of the day being read for the second res reading cf the Bill, Lord ELLENBOROUGH wa lose and briefly stated his objections to an innovation I f i f the kind proposed upon the existing laws of the del Lind, which, after consideration with those persons to vki.l: whom the administration of the laws was confided, ' 24 was found not to be by them considered expedient. un His Lordship then moved that the Bill be read the CO' second time on that day three months. au Lard ERSKINE, in a few words, expressed him- an self favourable to the progress of the bill on the a" ground of the certainty of punishment on conviction an being preferable to the existence of some statutes e „" 'which were scarcely ever put into practice, and which " 3 therefore slimed the propriety of making a whole- re] • come alteration on this subject. ini The Earl of LIVERPOOL said that he had given ra' the subject very great attention, and was convinced c? that the alteration would not produce the expected t s' advantages. He approved of the present system by °I which a.severe punishment was held out, but which w' was not put in execution except in aggravated cases. re His Lordship stated, that for same time past, comic- t'' -ons for heinous crimes had been fewer, and petty th -tons *fences more numerous. 'Pc Lord HOLLAND spoke at some length, with M considerable animation, in favour of the Bill, which , be contended was tendered necessary by every fair tu mode of viewing the true state of the ease with respect , to the law passed in the reign of William the Third ul„.; on this subject. He argued that the Consequences of °' - - a sentence of capital punishment deterred many, very many, from prosecuting, influenced the feelings of tt Jurors, and actuated the minds of Judges, so that s ', offenders were too much in the habit of reckoning be- tl fore hand on their good luck in escaping the punish- talent which the laws decreed. Though he had a 'high respect for the opinions of Dr. 'Paley, ye: on this subject he had the authority of Justice Blacks,tone, . 1 1 from sslicK-e Commentaries he read a quotation, and ii the opi&cyl of that great moralist and observer of mankind, Dr. Johnson. He had also the calcula- c lions and remarks, (which on this particular subject, a might fairly be admitted,) of Mr. Colquhoun.— Ile had likewise the opinion of 'persons in some 1 of the departments of the administration of Govern- / :tient respecting the offences against the revenue laws. , He protested against this, which was a specific Bill, f being considered as a speculation in Legis'ation, and added a variety of arguments in favour of the : ;neasnre. The Earl of SUFFOLK in support of the Bill, ( stated a qtsc of his own within these few days. He 1 Found himself robbed by an ()Li woman who kept his J bouse during his absence ; but was deterred from pro- i "secuting her, chiefly because of the severe punishment i that might have been inflicted upon her. The-Marl of LAUDERDALE also defended the Bill, and maintained that the present state of the prac- -tice of the law was not that which the legislature in the reign of William the Third intended, Comparing the - value of money, whati was then the value of five shillings stolen from a shop, or 44) shillings from a dwelling house, could not now be less than double either of those sums. It was clear that the practice was not according to the intention of the law, and that was an innovation. As to the benefits of the ' terror of severe punishments which were seldom car- ried into manioc., lie contended, that a sort of co- partuery !dust be exercised by the prosecutor, the - Jury and the Judges, which took away the certainty of law, and therefi ire diminished its wholesome effects The LoaD,.CI - 1-ANCE 1.1.0 R had much respect _ for the person' Iv whom this Bill -had been brought into ParLatnent ; buthe was bound also to she's , much deference tr the opinions of the Judges of the laad, who were in the constant habit of attending to the criminal law in which he, from having been chiefly used to a Court pf Equity, was not so deeply versed. . The offence from which capital punishment was taken • away by the Bill of last Session, had, he was well in- , formed, greatly increased since, according to the ;timber of convictions. His Lordship stated several cases that had occurred while he presided in a Court pf Critilinal Law, and concluded, after many obser- vattons, with expressing his concurrence with tie mo- 1 pm of the Noble and Learned Lor k j. , The MarquisofLANSDOWNE said, that their Lordships were now to consider whether, after 40 or 50 years innovation of the law of the land, as passed • in the reign of William 111. they were prepared to • .., •-• affirm, as they would affirm; if they rejected this Bill, that such an innovation and discordancy should con- . .. upue. The increase of the convictions since the Bill . , last year, furnished an argument against the Noble I . Learned Lord, since it showed that the number prosecutions were greater when the dislike arising capital punishments was so far taken away. The toble Marquis made an eloquent speech in favour df He was, at the same time, apprehensive of some op. position to the proposed repeals, from the country Gentlemen, Members for Ireland, who were of opi nion, that in enacting the repeal, they were running a considerable risk. He, of his own knowledge, could not help admitting, that there were many humane and loyal men in -Ireland who thought that such a step would be going too far. But he thought that the improvement in Irish civilization, since that pe riod, however necessarf such laws might then have been, had by this time superseded the necessity of them. He said, that he was anxious, as the people grew more civilized, to extend to them all the liberty that they could, consistent with the safety of Ireland He &kids ware was equal to one-9th, while that of Irish amounted to not less than 7-sths. H e stated the sum to be provided for the charge of interest upon the debt, and the Sinking Fund, amounting to £331,269 ; the interest and charge management-for this he stated at £5 13s. 3d. I cent. The taxes to raise this sum of three hundi spd thirty odd thousand pounds, he thus enumetat as follows : First Tax—Upon the Post Office Revenue, an increase of one penny upon the postage of each letter, which would produce C 35,0% Tbe next taa was an increase upon the Duties and Cos. toms of Tea, Raisins, and Currants, which would produce One item produced to the English Rever..ie Bill. Lord ELLENBOROUGH, in animated tern% lured a spirit of innovation upon the existing sys of our laws and their present administration ; a it which was now too much abroad on that sub- The bill of last session had been dangerous, the :sent one might be more so, and he believed that It session another bill to take away capital punish lent from the offence of stealing from a dvielling ise, no person being therein, might be brought in ; very law which protected the poor cottager who his miserable home in the morning, and expect to fing on his return the mean chattels with which habitation was garnished. Various other objec ions were made by the Noble Lord. Lord HOLLAND said the Noble and Learned Lord had misapprehended him. The question was put, •and the numbers were— For Lord Ellenbor,ough's motion Sl AgainA it - - • • - I 1 Majority against the bill %. • TILE MESSAGE. The Earl of LIVERPOOL, after requesting the _oyal Message to be read, which was acoordingly done, stated that he had no intention to say much on subject,. as so many motions containing every tblic topic stood before the House, though any No- Lord might originate, if he pleased, a discussion present. - He then moved an humble Address to i Majesty in the usual mode. Lord HOLLAND would not, under all circum- itself. _.. then concluded with moving for leave to - (Th:s • J bring in Bills to altir and amend the said Acts. A 570,000 ) - The nest tax was an increase of the Stamp Duties, malt. ct- Mr. HUTCHINSON said he could not avoid ex- rig Newspaper Advertisements, which now paid but su o i f ae the u dudesper tun, on and Pnr; of nC l a l e rich pressing his thanks to the Hon o ur able Gentleman, ts. dut y , pay its. which would produc e objec. and to the Noble Duke at the head of the Irish Go - 'The ve r nment, for proposing the repeal of the two Acts andnext tax w a s Spanish a Wines, in of cr e a 7 t 2 Learned in question. It was not merely on account of the T he be gu i ne as mt pe as e t a u s n m o a n n allzFrtenoch levied by en irroducing practical good effects resulting to the people of Ire- /he Cus toms Storage, producing reg u lation on . ,rs were— land from such a measure, as of the conciliating spirit The next was an increase of the present Window tax, al it evinced upon the part of the Irish Government.— by £5O per cent. producing - . XING - 11 It was not so much on account of the good it would With respect to the Window Tax, he stated that no - .--20 do, as to the principle upon which that good would house having less than seven windows was subject to Lathe tax, and that even after the' proposed increase, the be done. He rejoiced that his country was begin-af 'n the tax would be one-half less than what it was in g ning to he better understood. It was not oppressive , Ens. ch 'cdyland, aTa even less than what ; it was in Scotland.— statutes or humiliating exemptions from the benefits 161 of the Constitution that could strengthen the Irish : The whole of these taxes, together with some items of RS the detail of which was unnecessa Government —let it be taught to repose upon the con. '. small im po rt , ry, would produce a gross amount of L 338,000, whi c h also fidence of the people, aqd it would repose in security. 1 ph was *7269 above the sum required for the charge of 1 h This was the firmest basis upon which any Govern- debt and Sinking Fund for the year. The Righ t merit could rest, "and therefore was it that he hailed the present proposition as a good omen for Ireland. i Hon. Gentleman dlen concluded, by moving his Erg lot, It was such a principle that had made this , country I Resolution, for the Increase of the Postage on Letters. tin The first Resolution being put, strong, and which, if extended, must make her 1 mu JOHN NEWPORT rose. He contended that stronger, in the cordial co-operetions of a people 4S ' S i r our A it was fuU time now in the tenth year of the union of sincere as they were brave, and whose constancy no m a system of sufferings had been able to shake. He ye- ' Great Britain with Irelands to look the actual stater.; nta j u i ce d that it was no longer thought a mistaken po- the latter country fairly in the face. He protested . rs ar against taking the comparison from the exact period of licy to treat such a people with the same candour and pane the Union, when the country had just emerged from liberality that constituted the leading features of their ~ red t , a violent state of commotion, and maintain that az national character. He had not been present when 3115 IA those Bills had been proposed ; if he had, he should nerd of peace, previous to the breaking out of the Spa French Revolution, when none of these drawback: have felt it his duty to have resisted them altogether, Dainty operated, was the fair period from which to draw the as unjust in principle, and most severe in operation. ; would Mr. PONSONBY vindicated the Administretion ' comparison. In the year 1794. the amount of the ;ouras 1 debt of Ireland was only £1 , 642 , tXX ) , and in Januar y rut the Duke of Bedford, and denied that that Noble ?y nit litlBlo, it amounted to X 81,000,000. At the former Personage had ever requ i r ed the passing of the Acts i at ha=pe riod Ireland had no interest to pay in Great Bra in question. He added, dim there had been DO iPe me Ju mighty effort at reform in the proposition of the Hon. tarn ; at the latter she had to pay there interest to the. n the amount of two millions and a halt'. Ever since the Gentleman, as the Bills in question would have expi le East red that Sessions 1 year 1800 her debt had increased in a rati 3 of 7to . he Sp: Mr. MAURICE FITZGERALD stated, that Ise i 2, while her revenue, within the same period, had T a sh:only increased in the proportion of 3 to '2, yet the (t -fore aloa h a d-been absent at the time of their original en di actment ; and that, had lie been in the House, he pence of management had increased nearly as sto 2. ) see th ! He was apprehensive the statement of the Right would have opposed them. the par Sir JOHN NEWPORT deferred the observations 1 Hon. Gentleman, as to the revenue of Ireland, pro the pre ceeded entirely on a fallacy. The exports of Ireland, he meant to make upon the bills till they were brought ' rice to 1 i in the year 1800, were 8 1,900,000 less than the year into the House. At the same time, helleartily con-of toeand in the year 1810, were only klOO,OOO cuffed in. the principle of any proposition which went 1 1794, as those ( more than they had been at that period. To to give the people of Ireland a fair and candid trial. • are not The motion was then agreed to. expect an increase of half a million , therefore, IRISH BUDGET. a. He within the year, was rather too much. e was fa, othing of M r . FOSTER, t h e H ouse h av ing gone into the howe v e r, from wishin g to represent Ireland as not earn hoc highly productive, and as ministering, in a great de, Committee of Ways and Means, rose to move the od. - to the necessities of Great Britain. In grain, Ways and Means towards raising the supply for Ire- i gree , ;:w words land for the current year. He began by stating the ! particularly, the increase had exceeded all expects. Holland. tion, and had been five times more than it had ewe state of the finances as they stood at ;be beginning ( 4 , .POOL In equalled in any former year. Last year there h ad the year. The Consolidated Fund of Ireland in . 1:- subject 2 nuary last amounted to 4'1,565,010. The balances been impor:ed into this country from Ireland 782,000 sieved won for the last year amounted to A:46 i.,01)0 ; t h e two- • quarters of oats, being seven-tenths of the whole ' 3LII mai dim ilia for this country. He proceeded to go t hrou g h seventeenths upon the joint charge for Great Britain . Sicily, at ; the different items from which it was proposed to and Ireland, he rated as amounting to R 6,106 ,00 0. port such a the interest of the Loan, expressing his a pp ro. The surplus of the Consolidated Fund for tire present , rake hensions that they would not be equal to the desires year-amounted to 81,47 8,000, of which the sum ap - , plicable to the service of the present year amounted . object. He alluded to the balances appearing to ho ' HOUSE OF COMMONS. to £311,000. The interest upon the debt and Sinking outstanding in the hands of dismissed and dec eased Mr. YORKF. took the oaths and his seat. Collectors of the Revenue, and contended that the Mr. MARRYATI' presented a petition from certain Under. Fund, ire stated at d 3,974,000. The quota to be ' sums owing by these defaulters ought to be collected writers in London, against the Insurance Bill, which was ordered paid by Ireland amounted to R6,61'1,000, Irish cur- . to lie on the table. rency, or X 6,160000 English money. The Trea.: before Government put its hand say farther int o the The Navigable River Bill was read a third time and passed. sury Bills he stared as amounting to £s 4l , ooo arish : pockets of the people. The Poor House Badge Abolition, the Bastard, and the Black Mr. SHAW (of Dublin) alluding to one of tau Protection Bills, severally passed through the Committee, currency, or £.so3 , ool) English. These, together ! names mentioned by the Hon. Baronet (Sir Joha and their Reports were ordered to be received to-morrow. taken, made a supply amottuti.tg W El 1,129000. TtieJudge Advocate's Postage, the Irish Malt Regulation, the To answer this, he now came to state to the Corn- 'N ew port), as in arrears in his capac i ty of Collector, British Fisheries Promotion, and the Flax Bounty Bills, were se- mittee the Ways and Mea=s, whereby vcrally read a third time and passed. charges ; that offers had been made to pay whMaeould The lion. Mr. POLE brought in two Billsookich were seve • raise tLis supply, Which were as follows ; File Re- ' ' r... 4 be shewn to be actually . due ; butthat the widow and rally read a first and second time, and ordered to be committed venue of a...and IA- 1 toe ~.1..., , ,.-.11 year *Mounted to the relations of the deceased collector alluded to, had been for Friday next. sum ‘,l X 5,000,040 ; ,:-.;s ::e ,trted to be more than Mr. MAURICE FITZGERALD moved for leave to bring in •the Revenue of lac year !, half • Di s- a million, the _is. advised that they might with equal justice be called ed a Bill for encouraging the Timber Plantations hi Ireland.-oe. on to pay the National Debt, as the balance chars dered. 1. tilleries having fallen t r tett. amount • which defi- Mr. FOSTER obtained leave to bring in a Bill for confirming Ciency had, hoe•ecer, iti er 2 measure , supplied against th em. }expresse d Mr. W. POLE corrobo this statement, and certain A g reements made between the Lords Commissionet sof by the dirties ripen ..!“.• :irritation of Forei g n the Irish I'reasurv, and Walter Earl of Ormond, respecting the Spirits dui in - t' •There were then tw t ., i,.tt rit oi. 0 1 his opinion that rated talance alluded to was Butlerag:: upon X'ities imitated into Ireland. Sir JOHN NEWPOR.I' pledgulhims lfthe r eto oppose con :rot- Loans, the ere a ill , 01 ~ :t 9 A 3.339000. the other ; not dm ' Mr. POSTER, in proof that the Revenue w . as d now ins any pint of said agreement, that went to militate a g ainst did R 1,509,000 ; adding to he:.e Loans the Revenue I t lea st strictly collected, thought it not aeu.ss tat mercantile privileges of the City of IVaterfurd. of Ireland for the present year as stated at 8 5,b00,000 . a `nth of this month the Flonse should know that on die 1- . only Colonel IN PARLIAMENT. —they, together I'. jib the other items, made a• i the whole revenue due iii the Customs amounted Colonel ALLEN yresented a Petition from the Inita74itants of ,total of Ei1,160,0a3 ; from which sum, ? tl e if I sup- I to £l. - 000 of which there was remitted in two dais the Town of Berwick upon TweLtl, complaining of a recent ex- : 1 '.f ired be ill p y re Le llcted, there remained an excess i " Exci , e the whole ercitte of privilege on the part of the ilquse, and praying fur a afterwards £ll,OOO ; and in the • , Reform in Parliament.—Ordered toile on the table. of Ways and Means amount' It ta £31,000. He next in two days, them sum due aw ns ie26,000, of which, Mr. 10-IN SMI Ilt presented a Petition from the County and procee:led to state the flew Taxes which would be • was remitted 5E22,000. So that there was not in ti,e Town of Nottingham, praying for a Reform in the State tit the I appropriated solely to paying off ' the interest o f tl Repret , eutatiou.—Ordered to lie cm the table. ' I Debt. He was happy to be enabled to state that, re that, hands of the Collectors, tinder the present system, of half a week's collection. MAJOR CARTWRIGHT. more than the amount explained. the excess of the debt was less by £1.00,000 than Mr. WHITBREAD presented a Petition from Major Cart: ' Si: J. Ni PORT . Wright: -He stated that in the former Petition two pas: ages were ! the increase of the income. The Sinking Fun 3, ' Mr. A. BARING considered the practice of uni itionaiit objectionable. Of these the one had been altered, and : which was at first but one hundredth part of the debt, ' formly raising, the Loan for Ireland in this country, 'the other the Petitioner did not mean to apply. The Petition was was now as one seventy- firstof ' and part it ; there then brought up, and the altered passages read. It began by eta- . unfunded Debt , a very grievous burden on die latter. It arose front 4 (mid he no SA • ve that of the.Cll4,ooo tins, that " although it was not within the limits of the humanf those stroll exertions amongst the rest the want c . . i g language to accommodate itself equally to all parties upon the on the Treasury Bill s. With respect to the Exports i • fI • ountry ithich landed and commercia interest o t lac c same subject , yet that Petitioner conceived,that it could not be and Imports, 'he stated that they had wit decreased, li fted in England. The eon! E were so strongly exemph objected to him, his having thought that jar rice was obligatory though he admitted they had not increased . The • sequence to be deprecated was, that in the course.t, and not optional." It proceeded in the next passage to censure as Duties on Linens had decreased £400,000; this, how- imped commensurate scut a flagrant illegality and outrage upon the liberty of the subject, the ever, h ad time, when taxation was Ireland would feel that forcible entry made by an Officer of that Honourable House into the Irish debt, the people of r iti , li the premises of Sir Francis Burdett, Bart. The Petition was then des. The Exports of Hides and Skins had de- t h en made only to pay B such additions were . w ill ordered to lie on the table. . creased, aod also Worsted and Yarn ; but the de- n that tio creditors. Under the impressio . soot! his RURAL OF IRISH INSURRECTION AND IRISH ARMS ; crease of the Export duties oil these articles sheaved countries, it was his ( I was to spare between the two d PIIkVENTION BILLS. the increase of the m anu f ac t ure of the raw materiallrish bidders opinion that the terms offered by tine a differeaci Mr. WELLESLEY POLE rose to move for the at lmme. With respect to the imports, there would Repeal of the Irish Insurrection and Arms Acts, be found to be an increase on the imports of raw ma- for raising the Loan, though there was ought to oars of a traction or so against the country, passed in the year 1807. He stated that they - were terial, or Bride's manufacture, so that where the home then enacted in furtherance of such an intention on manufacture was not benefited by the import of the been concluded. observations from Mr. Foots the part of the Administration that preceded the raw material, the benefited by . empire WAS . the en- and ~ , After some further ions were agreed i cur JOHN NEWPORT the resolut ions change of Government in that year. Ile had under- couraeement given to the English manufacture. lot-eived toonorrow, ! to, and the Report ordered to be rec stood that the Duke of Bedford had declined the Irish thertohe had spoken • merely of the official value. In DROITS OF ADMIRALTY. Governnient, unless these laws had been enacted. the year 1800, the real value ofthe t orts of Irish since the p apa cs 23. r()wsomxp.TIERNEY stated, that of _ ose ,_, considering them . as essential to the maintenance of manufacture amounted in 180 0 , to i Mr ' teining the amount and appropriation th to n r_ l l tranquillity in Ireland. He (Mr. Pole) believed the i a,-,1,- millions ; :; rid it} the years 1808 and 1809, or; the I was now upon the table, he should, according _ l';`__ situation of Ireland, at thatoime, to have been such 1 average of both, the export duties amounted to 121 • 11 the attention of the House to the subject. kite,.."re as to have justifie d the necessity of such a measure. 'millions. Here was an increase of from nine millions . ca ence of tn not disposed to defer his motion in consequ rod action It was, however, but a dormant power—for it had to twelve in less than nine years . The ratio of inn s ' since the p ac _ . . very short time that had elapsed s to Lb° never been called into exercise in any one instance. British ex • ports in the same period, was in the same had nothing to wante d during the administration either of the Duke of Bed- progression. In 1800, 40 milli ns ;in 1802, 48 mi l- aof that paper, because he , to ql . Droits of Admiralty generally, but 0111,, esh iba,l ford or the Duke of Richmond. Such a tenderness lions ; in 1808 • -9, upon the average of both, 45 an d • spew what a tl;on.aeat's inspection viOniu had there been evinced for the liberif of the subject . 5O . . _,..1 axes, take up much of their time, as other oppor anities would occur ; but he must say a word re specting the policy of this country towards South America, as he had lately seen a declaration circu -led, he believed by the Consul General, by which appeared as if different laws are to be passed with respect to Old Spain, and Spanish America. This -as a point to which he wished to call the attention. Government. Some persons were wild enough to :sire the total separation of Spanish America from , hat is called the Mother Country. That was a kind policy which he thought would be most unfair and mjust in this country to encourage. It had been re :ommended in pamphlets, but he knew not by what. authority. Whatever might have been - the errors aid sins of the late Supreme Junta, they had done sway all differences between the Spaniards of North . Lnd South America and the East Indies, and declar d the colonies a part of the Spanish Empire ; and lad given them still further a share in the national !presentation. He therefore thought it peculiarly acumbent on Ministers to see that no seeds ofsepa ration were sown between the parent country and the colonies at a period like the present.; but that they bould use all their influence to preserve to the colo iists their full equality of condition. By so doing -e should best keep up in those colonies the spirit of -esistance by which they are now animated against :he Usurper :icing Joseph. He also hag to remark, hat the message said nothing of subsidies to foreign woofers, and wished to learn how it was intended 13y ilinisters to be understood. Earl GREY said a few words in concurrence with he sentiments of Lotd Holland. The Earl Of LIVERPOOL said that Government lad taken a view of the subject alluded to by the No ;le Baron which he believed would be found correct. The Earl of SUFFOLK made wine remarks on wretched state of Sicily, and the uselessness of sending money to support such a system, as prevailed here.—Adjourned. ci the ) then of tte.e ad, a t rge of I. pa Indred eratet cas,e* so b oes 100,001 18,0 co 61,00, that ne iject to use, the n Eng. [and.— terns of :essary, , which arge of Right his first Letters. led that anion of state of rowed )eriod of ed from I that an t of the wback: draw the at of the January e former reat Bra. est to the. since the ►of 7 to od, had A the ca- ts 5 to 2. to Right and, pro. Ireland, the year C 400,000 od. Tu therefore, WAS Cif, nd as not great de, In grair., I expects, had eree there had 1782,000 he whole nthrough posed to is appro. e desires ng to leo deceased that the collected T into the le of the (Sir John Collector, n .ald star• eOticoul.l widow and 1, had been be called •P charted