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PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. [We inserted by mistake the name of Sir Jomr MA RJORIRANES, I as in the Minority on Lord Mu:RIBALD HAMILTON'S Motion %his brother, Mr. STRWAIIT aIAIJOILIRANICS, voted in that Minority'. ....‘ 'must OF COMMONS, JANUARY 29. Norms. of MOTIONS and ORDERS of the DAY, which now kand in the Order Book of the House of Com mons for To-stoa stow and THURSDAY. WEDNESDAY. _ . . Noncss or Monous.—Lord Viscount Castlereagh—Provi sion for the Queen. Lord John Russell—Disfranchisement of Grampound. Osman or TIM Dmr.—Committee on so much of his Majesty's Speech as regards a Provision for the Queen. Report on Mo tion for a supply. Last day for receiving renewed Election Petitions. THURSDAY. Worm= or Movions.—Mr. Warra—Petition of the Bow ditches to the Secretary of State. Home Department. Sir John Newport—Libel on Parliament, inserted in The London Gazette. Sir Henry Parnell—Return of Union Duties. Mr. itisberly— Revenue Accounts and Papers. COMMON HALL. Yesterday a Common Hall was held, pursuant to • Requisition, to con ider the propriety of Petitioning both Houses of Parliament to resist all further pro- ceedings against the QUEEN, and to take such seeps, as in their wisdom might seem fit, to put her MA . JesTY in full and immediate possession of allthe rights and privileges to which she is entitled as QUEEN CONSORT of the Realm. At one o'clock the LORD MAYOR came upon the hustings, accompanied by Aldermen WOOD and WAITHMAN, Mr. FAVELL, and several others of the Common Council. The Meeting was not so numerously attended as upon some former occasions, but when the Crier made the usual proclamation ending with GOD save the king," the Hall resounded with the response of " GOD save the Queen." The LORD MAYOR then came forward, and said, that he had received a Requisition signed by a great number of respectable Members of the Livery, and that, in compliance with that Requisition, he had , taken the first opportunity for convening a Common lall, the present being the first day that he could, consistently with the discharge of his other public duties, attend. The Requisition would be read by the proper officer, and he felt it unnecessary to call upon them to afford to every Gentleman who wished to address them, no matter what his sentiments might be, a fair and impartial hearing. They had given proofs heretofore of their willingness on all occasions to give a share of their attention to everybody ; and he made the observation now, because it was at tempted to cast a reflection on their conduct else.' where, as not being such as to afford an opportunity of free and equal discussion. Those persons who had said so, had nut themselves set a very meritorious example to Public Meetings in another place—( Cries' of " The Mansion House, and Sir William Curtis"). He w culd only add, that he was sure the Livery of London, in Common Hall assembled, would not fol low that example which had been set them by their ilifiers, but would then, and on all other occasions, tyliold their character for decorum, good conduct, a:id propriety— ( Applause ).—He had to communi cite to the Coinmon Hall, that since their last Meet hig, the Address voted to her Majesty had been car ried up by him, attended by a most respectable body of his fellow-citizens, who were most graciously re ceived, and an Answer was returned by her Majesty, which the proper officer would then. read to the Livery —( Applause ). The QueeTi's Answer to the Address of the Livery was then read, and received with acclamation. His Lordship then stated that he had the honour of receiving two letters from Lords Holland and Erskine, thanking the Livery for their vote of appro bation at the last Hall—( Applause ).—He had, un fortunately left the letters behind, but they wuuld be there in time to be read before the Meeting had tes urinated.—The Requisition for convening the flail was then read, after which, Mr. RYLAND came forward and said, it was the first time of his appearing before the Livery, and to a great part of them he believed he was unknown, but having an honest intention in a good cause, he had no fear or doubt of meeting with their support. He was born a Citizen, and was in heart, as well as by birth, one of that body whom he now ventured to address. His dearest interests were connected with the City of London, and he would die, as he had lived, anxious for its benefit--(Hear, hear).—lt was true he came forward unknown and unbefriended, but he would give them his character in a few words, and by that he was willing to stand or fall. He was a friend to Parliamentary Reform, he was a friend to civil and religious liberty, a friend to justice in every sense of the word, and therefore a friend to the cause of our much-injured Queen—(Loud applause).—This was his brief and comprehensive character, as far as he had any pretensions to a public one. If it was a passport to their good will he ought to be satisfied Kith it. This, then, was the first time in which he had made his appearance on the London boards as au actor in thefarse just about to be performed— (.l laugh).—They had been told that County Meet ings were farces, and if the Meeting of the County of Southampton, attended, as it was, by the wealth and rank of that part of England, was to be deno minated a farce, the Meeting of the Livery could hardly hope to escape from being stigmatized by the same name. Was this language consistent with the dignity of the subject ?—(Cries of "IVO r) Were they to be told that Meetings of their country men, constitutionally assembled, to take into consi deration the unprecedented and alarming state of the public distress, and to look for relief, were only farces? They might, indeed, appear farcical enough to those who were rolling in splendour, and enjoying thousands upon thousands by the grace and favour of the Crown ; but to himself and others like him, who earned their bread by their honest labour, they were neither a farce nor a joke—(Applause). It was melancholy to witness the people of this country la bouting under every burden of aggravated distress, while the first person in the realm replied to their complaints by insult and calumny—(Cries of Bravo). Indeed, there never was a time when the state of the country suffered so dreadfully in all its interests. Look to the state of Agriculture! What was the fact? The farmer who grew the bread did not receive such a price for it as would pay the expense of cultivation. Look to the Manufactures! Small as the price of bread was, the artisans of England . were scarcely able to purchase it—(Hear, hear). Along with this was the intolerable weight of taxation, which was unpa ralleled at any former time. With respect to this taxation, he would' have again something to say, which was connected with the great object of the Meeting. What was that object?—The case of the Queen. Look at the situation in which her Majesty then stood. She had been tried, he would not then; consider how, but she was at all events formally and virtually acquitted—(Applause). What was the con sequence? Why, with respect to her, the principle of English law was completely reversed. It was usual for acquittal to produce to the party accused relief and indemnity; but it would seem as if the Queen s innocence was her greatest crime—(Applause). Her acquittal produced degrading punishment, such as ought only by law to have followed a conviction. This was punishment not by law, but by the will of Ministers—(Hear, hear). They had withheld from her Majesty every right and dignity to which she could legally lay claim. He (Mr. Ryland) could not forget what particular day that was; he c uld not forget that it was the day of the Accession of our gracious Sovereign, whom might HEAVEN preserve; but he could not also but remember, that it was the day when our late regretted and venerable Sovereign breathed his last. If that beloved Monarch was liv ing, or if his amiable and lamented grand-daughter (Hear, hear), of whom the country was so unhappily deprived, was then in existence, would it be neces sary for him to stand there on that day to defend the Queen? —(Cries of No!) Their hearts and their con sciences would answer, No. After all the attempts which had been made to destroy the mother and to bastardize the child, for he would use no milder term, if HEAVEN had not taken the latter to itself, her Royal Mother would then have had a shield which' would have protected her from all the shafts of her calumnious enemies —(Hear, hear). But, to go at once to the object of the present Meeting, they had met to petition the House of Commons, and he would point out the leading features of the Petition. It condemned the Milan Commission and the system of espionage connected with it; which employed spies in every hole and corner, and used such influence to procure witnesses, as was shewn by the case in the Lords. It complained also of the system of suborn ing witnesses, and of the profligate expenditure at tendant upon those proceedings—(Applause). That expenditure had not only been lavished upon spies, but a bribe of £50,000 a-year had been offered to the Queen to betray herself!—(Applause.) Yes, to deny her name—to give up her tights—to abandon her country—and to live in exile in a foreign land, dis honoured, deserted, and obscure!—(Load cheers.) — With a spirit not expected, she indignantly refused that bribe, and, with honest anger, threw herself upon the protection of truth and the people of Eng land—(Ct ies of Bravo!). Ile then proceeded to trace the conduct of Ministers towards the Queen since her arrival in this country. The refusal of the royal yacht and a royal residence, when the Queen, driven from the doors of all her family, would not have had a roof to shelter her, had it not been for an honest 'individual of the Corporation of London, who per formed to the Queen of England those rights of hos pitality which the Government refused —( Loud ap plause).—Ministers were resolved to pay her no com pliment but what wai contained in the Bill of Pains and Penalties, which they had ready cut and dried to honour her with on her arrival —(A lame).—But if the Queen was to be reached by that malignant and anomalous Bill, such an influence might reach the wives of any of them—(Hear, and a laugh).—He then commented on the illegality of the act by which the Queen's name was left out of the Liturgy, and the application of the 25th sec. of the 13th and 14 , th of Charles 11. to the case, and said, that although the Queen's name was left out of the Liturgy, it was not left out of the hearts of the people ; and though she was not prayed for by the Church, she had the prayers of every honest man in the kingdom —(Loud checrs).—lle o.:en, after some similar observations, went on to say, that the Bill of Pains and Penalties did not arise from any malicious feeling which the Ministers entertained towards the Queen. It was brought forward with the design of keeping Minis ters in their places, by veiling the eyes of the people to the existing state of distress, that they might not look to the actual sufferings of the country, and call the stewards of its revenues to their account--(Hear, hear).—After some remarks upon the conduct of those who fabricated, in holes and corners, what they mistutmed Loyal Addresses, which vilified the Peo ple and deceived the King, he concluded by moving the Resolutions pursuant to the Requisition. Mr. HALL seconded the Resolutions. He regretted that there was so small a Meeting of the Livery on so important an occasion, particularly as the Minis terial Press would make it a handle to under-rate the expression of public feeling in the City. The worthy Liveryman, after pointing out the infinite advantages that were derived from a free Press, proceeded to animadvert on the treatment which the Queen had received, and expressed his firm conviction that none but a person conscious of innocence, could have re fused the bribe offered to her at St. Omer's. The root of all the evils by which the Empire was as sailed, was to be found in the want of a House of Commons that fully, freely, and fairly represented the people—(Applause).—ln conclusion, he expressed a hope that the Livery of London would frequently assemble for the purpose of discussing great public questions, and that they would, to use a phrase of Lord Castlereagh's, make Parliamentary Reform a " fundamental feature in all their proceedings." Mr. SCHULTZ observed, that Ministers inflicted pu nishment after the prosecution had failed. It was an established axiom, that causa cessante, effectus cessnt. But Ministers had first degraded, and then brought in a Bill to degrade the Queen—(Cheers)—and when the Bill failed, they continued the pains and penal ties—(Cheers).—They thus violated another rule— accessorium sequitur principium ; for they contended for the results after the failure of the principle. Lord Castlereagh was for putting the cart before the horse, and naturally, as he was an Irishman. —(Applause). The King's mind was too noble, good, and generous, to have suggested or desired the erasure of the Queen's name from the Liturgy. It was all owing to the or ganized system of corrupt influence--(Cheers).—lf the Parliament were reformed, his Majesty would be hailed as the father of his people—(Great applause). Mr. Sheriff WAttnatAN congratulated the Livery on the establishment of the principle, that they were a regular and deliberative body, by whom questions could be discussed. The self-styled Loyal Merchants were not qualified to set them a good example—(Ap plause).—lt might have been expected, that when such persons chose to sally forth from their holes and corners, where they had been calumniating others, they would have :hewn how men were to be met by fair argument. He alluded to one Declara tion by persons in the City, which accused the Com mon Council of disloyalty, and charged them with spreading disaffection and disloyalty among others. There had been in St. Andrew's, out of the City, a. jollification, such as was to be exhibited in the City this evening—(Laughter). A collection of Loyal Ad dresses, published more than a century, from which Mr. Marsh had so aptly quoted at Reading, proved that even at that period it was found that nothing , promoted good humourlike the bottle—(Great ap plause).—At that period it had been sung. , — " Brave Cavaliers he jolly :—five and be merry ; " Cheer up your sad souls, " O'er RAcchus's bowls, " With sack, and claret, and sherry!" (Immense laughter).—At the jollification he had men tioned, the health of a jolly Clergyman, who had made an attack on him, and which he had endeavoured to beat bat k—(Applause)—was one of the toasts—(Loud laughter)—and the glee that followed, " With a jolly full bottle let each man be arm'd !" Another toast was, " Women and wine I"—(Great applause), and the glee, ,( Flow thou regal purple stream !" In this style had those patriots resolved to meet annually—to support religion and morality I— (Shoats of applause). He might suppose that they had concluded with a song— " Come, jolly mortals, fill your glasses, " Noble deeds are done by wine !" (Cheers).-4t appeared by the Resolutions of Doctor Sewell and his Secretary, that, notwithstanding the laws respecting Seditious Meetings, Corresponding Societies and Subscriptions were recommended and partly adopted for the support of religion and mora lity. He had thou b trlitthis'a swindling attempt, till he found Dr. Sewell and his Secretary, Mr. Charles Murray, in the black book, with ample pensions. He had been disposed to form ,the same uncharitable judgment of the Ward of Cheap Meeting, till he found the name of Alderman Rothwell there—(Much laughter and applause). The zealots of such proceed ings were very modest at present. Not a word of Ministers. No : their hearts and souls were entirely engrossed by the interests of religion and morality— (Applause). But, if their artifice should succeed, they would soon put out their horns, and loudly pro fess their attachment to the present virtuous Admi nistration—(Great applause). He could tell the Li very, however, that the publications issued by those who could not support religion and morality without subscription, came from a shop in his neighbourhood, from which Go it, my boys !" had come some years since. Publications the most obscene and disgusting were thus promoted and circulated; and he had means of knowing that Clergymen were employed in writing them—(Shame!). One of those works was a s. Parody on the Pilgrim's Progress, embodying the most disgusting scenes in a prosecution proved to have been one tissue of falsehood and perjury—(Applause). The attention of the Society for the Suppression of Vice ought to be directed to this subject. The Re ()lotions were then put, and carried una nimously.—. The Petitions to the two Houses of Parlia ment were then read, and agreed to unanimously. The Duke of BEDFORD was requested to present the Petition to the Lords, and Mr. Alderman WOOD that to the Commons. SIT WILLIAM CURTIS, Mr. Alderman BRIDGES, and Mr. WILSON, were instructed to support the Pe• tition to the Commons. The following letters from Lords HOLLAND and Ettsiti NE, were then read : " 14, Arabella-row, Lower Grosvenor-place, Jan. 12. " - .llv Lono—l beg that you will do me the honour to com municate my sincere thanks for the notice so kindly and par tially taken of me at the Meeting of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Livery of the several Companies of the City of London, in Common I fail assembled, on Friday, the 13th December last.— I feel with pride and satisfaction that the principles which through a lung life I have uniformly maintained in our Parlia ments and Courts of Justice, are the same which animate and distinguish the Citizens of eondon. I acted in conformity with them during the late proceedings in the House of Lords, and they may depend upon my constant and invariable support of the free principles of the British Government. " I have the honour to be, with great respect and regard, " Your Lordship's most faithful humble servant, (Signed) " ERSKINE " To the Right Hon. the Lord Mayor." " Old Burlington•street, December 23. --- - . " My Loas Mavoa—l am much gratified by the communi cation of the, Resolution of the Mayor, Aldermen, and livery men, of the City of London, in which they were pleased to no tice, with approbation, my opposition to the Bill of Pains and Penalties, which was lately under the consideration of the House of Lords. I am hardly entitled to so flattering a distinction. Nothing but the orders of the House would have induced me to attend so irregular, unnecessary, and disgusting a proceeding ; and when compelled to do so, I did nothing but my duty in voting against it. It is, however, some compensation for the time unprofitably and unpleasantly spent in that inquiry, to find that my conduct during it has met with the approbation of so great and respectable a body of my fellow-countrymen as the Common Hall of the City of London. I beg you, my Lord, fur them and yourself, to accept my best acknowledgments, and to believe me with every consideration of respect, " Your Lordship's obliged and obedient humble servant, " VASSALL HOLLAND." Thanks were moved to the Mover and Seconder of the Resolutions and Petitions, which were agreed to with unanimous and warm applause. Mr. RYLAND and Mr. HALL returned thanks. Mr. Alderman Wool) said, that it was unnecessary for him to say that he would, on this occasion, be happy to obey the instructions of his constituents ; indeed, if they had even agreed to a Petition con taining opinions the very opposite to his own, he would feel it his duty to present it ; nay, if even the hole-and-corner men agreed to such a Petition, he would present it—(Applause)—though he would not support it. He was glad that the Meeting was held after the discussion on Lord A. Hamilton's motion. The fate of that motion would pretty clearly shew the little regard that the House of Commons paid to the Petitions of the People. The very night when that motion was brought on, Petitions from all parts of England were presented in such numbers, as to take up four hours in the brief description of them; and yet, in defiance of those Petitions, in direct op-, position to the declared wishes of the nation! the House of Commons refused to censure the Order which excluded the name of her Majesty from the Liturgy. He was glad to see the Resolutions of the Livery of London; they would, lie had no doubt, give a tone to the whole country—all England, he anticipated, would follow the example of the City of London. It really became a question whether the people of EnglanJ, who were in the right, should ; put down by the Ministet, who wl.as in th e -ro n „, E ng lishmen were not in the habi t O f suhmir,i, 6' i nsu lt or oppression, and Minis t er s were much' g ta f k c en o m if m tl o le n y s thought th at one deci s i on of the would put down th e sp i r i t of the tr y. He hoped that the Learned G ent l eman o Wetherell), whose speech on the questio n the other night in the house trf Com mons, was -.:14 rowed on allhands to be a master-pi ece o f clear a -- :I forcible legal argument, - would bring the m a i n ' ue,. tion before Parliament. The question rat in means disposed ot. It was impossible that h.a..;4 jest) , ever would give up that point—(b md Ministers might :mike 0a absurd calcanion, allowing her a large sum of money, she wood „. abroad—that the People would forsake he-, more would be heard about the Lit urgy. Th : knew little of the proud and indignan t k t . • ao ta or her Majesty. The very day of Lord A. H ain ir o . motion, she assured Mr. Brougham and Mr 1,),: man that she would not give up that right as 1 0 „ as she existed—( Continued cheers?. As to m 0„,, ., sh g e felt indifferent on that point. It was never her wish to waste the money of the People—(. 4171r".51). dinner a day would serve her; she required little ( 4 herself; but her rights as Queen she was deier m ;„ e4 to maintain—(Loud cheering). Her Majesty kacx that her great support was the •Peop!e ot E , 11 1„ d; if it were not for them she N% o,lld have h en , trampled upon ' • she only sought for h er T ie, and, in looking for them, she looked forward wla confidence to the unabated and generous assist nte of a noble-hearted People—(Appleuset. It was a id, indeed, that she looked for more than her righn_i t was asserted that, in some of her Answers, she cal the People her subjects; that was not true. He wo h . l defy any person to put his hand on a single Anse» where she called the people her subjects. But it vr.i i a regular system to turn everything against her, au to represent her virtues as vices. A proof of tea. derest attachment to her lamented daughter, which would be applauded, if known, as characteristicol the most affectionate of mothers, had been turned against her by her enemies.—Perhaps his three col leagues in Parliament might be converted by age. merits before the great question came on, especially since Lord Castlereagh had said that her Majesty was in the same situation as if no prosecution ' been institoted—(Hear, hear, hear). Mr. FAVELL came forward to propose a V ote Thanks to the Lord Mayor, whose independent , duct as a public man was a subject of just and gene. ral applause. His Lordship was a very patient mar, and never was his patience put to so great a tear it was lately by a certain 1 - action of Traders Bankers who met at his own hou , c—(4pplasue)— Those Gentlemen thought fit to hiss Mr. bari.. h , even the Lord Mayor himself, and by the force clamour disturbed the val. le of the proceedings. ' ' denounced this kind of conspiracy, and sorry he, to say that three of their Representatives had been, the Meeting to which he had alluded. Yet were the men who accused the Teeple of dison conduct! They inveighed against Public Meetings; though it was in the recollection of many men thi Mr. Pitt and his friends constantly had recourse ai Public Meetings. But they no longer answers-die objects of Ministers, and therefore they were discone• tereanced. He hoped, however, that the Penis.- persevere, and preserve those rights in d( which the best blood of their ancestors had ' The Mption was put and carried with applause. The LORD MAYOR said, that he had rcceived tie thanks of his fellow-citizens with great - He had had experience lately, that the friends tra loyalty care.i not what they did when t. (Applause). He hoped he would ever mai. far as he could, the rights of his fellow-citizens. The Hall then dissolved in the most orderly Petitions to both Houses of Parliament have lee numerously and respectably signed by the Surges's and Inhabitants of Selkirk, praying that her 31a. JEST I's name may be restored to the Liturgy of the Church of England, and herself to all the rights tad privileges of a Queen Consort of these Realms. Tte Petition to the House of Lords to be presented' Lord ERSKINE, and that to the House of by the Member for the Selkirk District of b. Friday afternoon, the receiving-house of the, Powder Works, at Kinterbury, near Plymouth, up, and a man and a boy were killed. In consequence of so small a Number as having been a £21,000 Prize in the Lottery finished, several persons have determined to the Number corresponding with their age; they are not expeditious, they will not be obtain that, or any other Number, as the new adopted by the Contractors, of giving away Prizes of £2,000, and letting the Public have chance for the other Capitals for a few shillit created such a demand, that we think there be Tickets sufficient to last till Valentine's Day, the Three £2,000 given away will be decided. Advices have been received from Naples to eg 10th inst. A report has been made to the Parliaineis from the Council of Generals, presided over by the Prince Regent, in which assurance is given frontiers are in a valid state of defence against hostile aggression whatever. The Council Lad solved on forming the army into four divisions, which three were destined for active service, and fourth as a corps de reserve. Orders had mated for conveying a portion of the troops s•. to the frontier provinces of Naples. Suppli es muskets had been received from Corfu, from Mall a and from Spain. The Prince Regent a, intention, in the event of war, of heading the A Memorial has been presented to the Palm , . accusation of Carascossa, the Ex-Minister of W which he is charged with having r efused horses for the use of the Army ; with having ferred the Officers from one corps to another, own caprice ; with not having fulfilled his ment to augment the regular Army to 52,000 • 10 , with not having furnished the suppli es n ecessary the battalions ordered to the frontiers, either of pp a ; der or of other articles; with not having, exert ' himself to procure muskets, and with havi n g. refused many that were tendered ; with having the prices of provision, of forage, and of and with hiving neglected the Orphan Schools odser Military Establishment-. The Memo rial referred to a Conimittee. t, should he aeon . much ftheH u If the cr,u. e , r le s m er t d c:' s.t ~l I .l :t e ba t (1 1 . of‘l-1 1 :1 ; : : 1 1s a Z e:P1 uc .a h irP:m ae i Lio n , 6 , • g. no ,dg on r iah !ray. Thu and ogs ' Cl "r). ale • red little f,./ • deeerm;, , , e ,l late her re h r le eee hdt c all r it4glbwee o t o L . :4 ,l l. ; i t' eastj: ts twb2: It w.s, Ye is l 1 C. He Weil s_ op ngle Ansa » on But it w as proof of ten. ice, Which • 11 ract istic of g, I been turd y ) s i h e : c d e ur esp eciall ybi t i v r . —rg . D t 'g e It i Ise A V o t e . inn pendent can. ' :ere Lest and ge ne . Thi patient mar, lab ;neat a test as yof Traders s o l 7 4pplause),— . hat i.. 0, and 7,1 the tome the ceedings. He er sorry he was ,t: s had beenc I. Yet this: of disorde4 the Meetings ; tit any men tha •ar I recourse s nee answet td the of were discoue. People would N in defence d n wad been deb la applause. I received de gr st satisfactim friends it es• ' "' t en defeated— • maintain, a ies -citizens. I le derly mama, . !nt have bra tar the Burgess d e hat her Idk t .iturgy of tie sh he rights tad Realms. Ile s , I Comw presented a .of Burghs. or, e of the Roll y mouth, b:er l a per as No. P Lottery jun , lined to hoe oss r age; but Let be able a the new plat 'En r away Three r e blic have the tis shillings, hat b there will nu ich te's Day, rya lecided. rg 'aples to ee he Parliamet hi over by the e given th at de n e against anl er iuncil had re- of r divisions, d A tIX ti v ice, and ad been tram ; " :roops in golf h Supplies of 1, from Malta a announces his ling the aro!: Parliament a sal ;ter of War, in 'used offers air Id having toe s ' another, at 1 14 • d his enga ge' ch 52,000 men ; necessary in' either of pet" havingaviug d of c hav i n g a n ltered e ve .i t Di e : Nlemorial / I/ 'll