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of hot.don to tett rr two members distinct from the house- hold c.vistituency. That the Anti-reformers in this attempt countenanced by, but, on the contrary, are acting contrary to, the wishes of the Livery, is sufficiently proved by the proceedings at a meeting of the Common Hall, on the jth March, 1831, when the following resolution was passed Resolved unanimously, that this Common Hall, Inn to the principles by which the Livery of London hare been long actuated, when they have expressed their anxiaty for e Reform Parliament, repel, with indignation the supposi• stun that the Livery of London would oppose a mea.stirs in. voicing a great public good, merely because it was supposzd to abridge .on:e rf the privileges of its non-resident mem bers; ar.il although this Common Hall is convinced that their !.•3 ion in seen, ty will secure the exercise of the tI ':ire franciii-e in other districts to thav who now to: tion.resitlynt Liverymen, yet th:y would, were it ktittrwise, cheerfully sacrifice their exclusive :or the burp at of securing to crest a public f(.od. ~s this important measure will confer upon the Lively f London, in common with tie country at large." Att. r t rtcnri'e,; r•piniet of ra;eting of the Livery th:10- ..Ivcs, it is really hi b ,hly inesuniotuous in the Anti.. befyrmers to put tlien.selves forward in this matte:. The Livery or Lond.in do net wi,4 their a44-I.‘ne ; du tsiah to by dr:.:grit throw:it the shire, merely to gratify eta I..eticts views of Anti.R•dormer 4, anxious 0..1y to tides . the Retbrm Bill, and to CO , lic4C o.e . s).' cm of corrupttem. - . POST.--Haw our c.nteinpore.ry the Courier could Int,. I zire, from any thing stated by i's, that we wished to in. sinuate that 4 . It- was indebted for his informa.ion or Portuguese cifairs to the EI-Emperor of 13r,iail," we rally cannot tell. That illustrious individual, in his retir.nv:nt at Niendon, is otherwise occupied. He employs the stmt.:a. Fart of the day in shooting ph;asants, which, being bred there more as an nrottnient to the park than for th. a Imsenumt of sportsmen, teliztlicr n - itive or forei ;. .n, ha-, . e understand, g;vcn great cam in a high quarter at Paris. llis everings ere chiefly spent in musical compositiana, and it is stated that he has already arranged the march that is to be played when he enters Portugal Fur another very substantial reason we could art have mad,: so gross a mistake. Don Pedro, howev..r much SIS he may have been deludtd by those who made him lox: a crown in Ittazil, and now urge him to ennimence evtld-goose cast after another in Portugal, was never known to use a term I t opprobrium against his brother, al.hnu,th he has frequently por:r.yeel kis enemies in their true colour.. We therefor: never can think that any paper could be pleasing to Inn, which designates Iris more fortunate rival and beartst of kin by no oilier mum s than €i usus per, " Import," ng%.rrcurit," :IA such Ike. NVe will take ano ther oppnrunity of allow ing our contemporary that I , e is in error roil:acting the col.- inertial pretensions of tire French, as well as the conse quences which they would produce to Britslt in.crests f int, were realized. .11ri KK 'fo.morroi. will Ilea day n: rr joiemg, 114. t only in the metropolis, but thom i lo.ut evert h art of the king. oni. King William is to be crowned, ard a better or more popular Soveleign never held the rvins rf Govestimait. Ito the City .he slay is to be kept as ado e Ind:day—all public estaltlishments are to he illuitiMated in honour of Ids Majesty—a c• tie blanche is pr:-:sited by the Theatres, to all who may chous:: to spend tit.it erming iu them—and many inditiduals will, t. e ,!Debt not, celebrate the day by suitalle rejoiciegs. Ntver, in fat, Om sad' an opportunity for the people to t.s ify their loyalty ; ard never, we are conhdent, was their loyalty evinced in such a decided manner as it will be to-morrow by all cla-ses. e‘cept the Anti-Heformers, against whose spits and incen diaries. and promoters of trouble, we take this opportunity of warning the public. IMPERIAL PAiLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, SEPT. 6. The Royal Asst. n t was given b) Commission to the Duchess of Kent's Annuity Bill, the Candle Duties Repeal Bill, the Mimingham Poor Bill, the Dublin and Kingstown Road Bill, and Lefevte's and rurton's D,vorce Bills. The Lords Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, the F.arl of Shaftesbury, and the Duke of Richtuund. The Bishop of LONDON presented a paition front Manchester ag..inst the Beer bill; also two front Gloucester shire to the saute effect. The Bishop of BATH and WELLS also pieset.ted a retition from Bath against the Beer bill. Upon the !notion that the report upon the Boar bill bs brought up, Lord MELBOURNE took occasion to draw the attention of their lordships to the state of the law relative to licensed houses, and thought it was worthy of their lordships' consi deration, to say whether the new beer shops should be brought under the provisions of the 3d of George I V. by which public public houses were prevented from keeping cpeti either late at night, or at too early an hour io the r•.:orning. The magistrates then, in country places, round be enabled to say when and at what time these shops should he opened or closed. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that the provisions cf the beer bill would not give the magistrates the power proposed to be given to them by the noble lord. He (the Duke of Wellington) wished the beer shops and the public houses to be similarly circumstanced in all tespects. After a few observations from the Earl of Harrowby, the Marquis of Salisbury. arid Lend Suffield, The Bishop of BATH and WELLS said that the 31a. gistrates were of opinion that they had not any power over the beer shops. He hoped therefore that au noble Secretary et: State would introduce a clause expressive of the power of the magistrates in this respect, *Lich would hate* r..ost :Amery effect. Lord TENTERDEN expressed a similar opiMon, anti Lei ed that the precise hours for opening and closing the beet shops would be inserted in the bill. Attar a few words from Lord Teynhatn and Lord Mel. lieurne, the further consideration of the report on the bill was postponed to a future day. Toe Duke of SUSSEX lose to present one of the most important petitions ever presented to that house. The pc. tit ion was stned by 1400 persons liable to serve on Grand J :rtes in the county of Middlesex, seven of whom had been t, remelt of the Grand Jury of Muldhsex. The property of 99 of the petitioners amounted in the aggregate to 14,000,0001. The persors alto signed the Petition had not only suffered from forgery, but had mainly contributed to o.e escape of criminals charged with that crime, because of the st verity of the law in this respect. From what he knew of the I , present Administration, he had great hopes that tit.: law in this respect would be taken into their Ines! salons consideration, and that an amendment of the law would take place. He wss one t.f those that considered that the tomisnment of death could not be altogether done away with, but he &ought it could be most materially lessened. This petition would have been signed by thousands, but that it vices thought right that only those should sign it who were to be placed upon the Grand Jury of the county of 'tittitlletcx. The noble duke, previous to reading the peti t:lm. read an extract, shewing a comparative statement of the cats al convictions is France and England, from the year 13125 to 1629 ; the most remarkable difference occurred in 1'129, when It9alone were capitally convicted in France, and 1:185 in England and Wales. The 1. lerk then read the following petition : " To the Hight Honourable the Lords Spiritual and Tem poral of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ire land, is Parliament assembled. 'lnc Petition of the undersigned Inhabitant Householders of the City of London, liable to serve us Jurors, •' Humbly showeth, That your Petitioners view with deep regret the excessive and fisdiscriminate severity of the criminal laws, which annex to offences of different degrees of ral guilt the punishment of Death, and cou'ound the simple ir.vasion of the rights of property, with the most ma. lign.nt and atrocious crimes against the person and the life ot man. That the recent Acts passed with the professed intention to amend and improve the Criminal Laws, have not re. medied the evil of which an enlightended community have the greatest mason to complain, but have still left those laws a divine to our civilization, by retaining the opprobrious distinction of being the most sanguinary of any in Europe. That Christianity, common reason, and sound policy, &mod that the laws which affect the liberties and the lives 01 men should proportion the punishment to the offence, aid not teach cruelty to the people by examples of vindictive •• That where public opinion does not go along with the laws, the persons who suffer under them are regarded as the victims of legislative tyranny or judicial caprice, and not as ertirtnals whose doom has been pronounced by the voice of oi•passionate justice. That the criminals executed in this country are se hcted out of a far greater number sentenced to death, and a nere the practice condemns the law, the law ought to be al.eitd, that criminals might suffer the punishment of their guilt by the authority of defined statutes, and not by the uncertain and capricious rule of judicial discretion. " That in the present state of the law, juries feel ex. tremely reluctant to convict, where the penal consequences of the offence excite a conscientious honor on their minds, lest the rigorous performance of their duty as jurors should cake them accessary to judicial murder. Hence in Courts of Justice, a most unnecessary and painful struggle is oats. sioned, by the conflict of the feelings of just humanity with the sense of the obligation of an oath. " That witnesses also are very frequently reluctant to give evidence, as well as juries to convict, lest they might bring upon the ir consciences tin stain of Wood ; and thus crimi nals, who, under a more rational and considerate code of laws, would meet the punishment due to their crimes, etcape with complete impunity. " That for these reasons, your petitioners humbly pray your Right Honourable House to Luke the criminal laws Into your consideration, for .11u puipose of th. revision and amendment of the acme, by thaviog a distinction Letwcen tly_ simile livasion of the .4,lita en 1 sopzity, aid crimes o violence and blood, and by abolisl.ieg ,hc pen: lty of (teeth in all caeca in which the l,- lamely • purser cannot justify in :he Cy cc of GoD and man, thnt r.nd dternativi.-- cv.rioinatioit of the od'e it :r ! _ " And yo •r w;11 :v--t my. &c." [Si; : rttl by the tlif.e.ert former resp.ctiv:ly of seven sue ces• iv:. Ohl Bailey Grand ihrint of 11;30. and by upwards of 1,1011 meahants, trailers. &c. who eitti,-r ;save served, of ere 0141:le to serve as jtim.s.] The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the subject re fined to in the vition was me. tservinq of :he Most roadies attention of their ; rdships. He could not, howev.r. be bound by 11. a. cue flown in the i vetition, namely, that life shOit note to be taken wlttn bolo: violence had been commit;ctl by the culprit. They :tad t 0 righ. M 'aka away the life ()Ca mural:rev because he did murder. The reason why the mimic:ll's life was taken was for the sake of the ex. ample: (hear ) &Arne had been quoted •o show tint only in cases of &ails that life should he takee from the persors causing dealt. Why hoe. Seriptur.- had such a text; bat' he Legge;' to know in weat part o; Set ipts.m was the proiti bition laid down, that in no Lase but io that of murder was tife to le .aktm ? He thou g h:, oi%ver, that the facts con. io this pc,itino ought to he tlee t tly considered by their ,ortivhi, a. It . ppeareii from the era deuce of the petition ers, tlia• they not on:y consented to lose their property, but al , n to motive at the escape of prisoners charged with the crime of forgery. These facts showed that an alteration was recessary in the law. Hut he could trot allow this pan of the subject to pass Lithout expressing his astonishment th gentlemen of worth and honour could, because of the severity of the lan, break the oath a pith they had taken to administer justice between our Sove eign hoed .he King and the prisoner at the bar, to en: ble the cull rit to escape. ( Hear, hear.) He deprecau.cl .11u re.mult of the petitioners : because it was likely to frustrou. h. very uhject they had in view. He would hail with pleasure soy change that would :vett the wants of the cae. Lord TENTERDEN made a few observations, but in so low a tone of voice, that he cold not be heard below the bar. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that it was to he re collected that the state of crime was different in this country from ant' oilier, a eircumscance that was owing to there being no pr,:v.ntive police in •hip country. Duk. of SUSSEX agreed with the noble and learned lord. He 64 not go the length of the petition, and would itt: the la.t man in the world to take away from the crown Its In ighteet prerogative, natuLly, that of mercy. Atter a few words front the Earl of SUFFIELD T. Otike of IVELLINGI ON and the Duke of Sufism. ow iudly explained. The petition was then ordered to ! 2 on the table. THE CANADIAN REVENUE DILL. Lord GabER ICH moved tit. third leading of the abort. bill, which gave the local assemblies power over the revenues of Canada. tall BATHURST objected to the bill making the Judges and Goeernms of Canada dependant upon the House of Assembly for their salaries. After a ter, uutds from the Duke of WELLINGTON and Lord GonLiticti, the b.ll was read a third time, and passed. Upon the motion of the Duke of RICHMOND, the se cond reading of the Game Bill was postponed until Monday. The House adjourctl at half-put Seven o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Al. LEA DER presented a petition from Clara, in the King'. County, praying that employment might be pro- cured for the laboming p....r of Ireland, by a tax on pio perty, declaring Melt este vie ion that all the distress of 're but,' atilt,: from defective legislation; and petitions from three parishes in the County of Cork, praying that all the people of Ireland might be educated. Lord INGESTRIE and Sir J. BRIDGES were sworn, and took their seats for the Cities of Dublin and Armagh. The House was summoned to the House of Peers us bear the Royal Assent given by Commission to several Bills. The SPEAKER, with some Members, proceeded to the House of Peers, and on his return, acquainted the house that the royal assent had been given by commission to several bills, which he enumerated. (See House of Lords.) r. H. ROSS presented a petition from the Merchants and Shipowners of Montrose, against the delays caused by the present quarantine laws, by which some vessels bad lost three-fou Os of theft cargoes. 31r. Alderman WOOD moved fur returns of the quantity of 'lithe distilled, and imported during the last year.— Ordered. Su JACOB ASTLET presented a petition from sixty clergymen of the county of Wilts, many of whom were ma gistrates, praying for an alteration in the beer bill, which should prevent the beer being drunk on the premien, which the petitioners were of opinion was the cause of many evils. It was known that there had been riots aid outrages in va rious parts of the south of England, fromOveblch the county of Wilts was not exempt ; and the petitioners were of opi nion that those beer-shops had formed receptacles for persons concerned in those overages to form their plans against the' peace of the country. Mr. BENETT said he had supported the beer bill, and thought it a benefit to tile labouring man, of which he should not be deprived. Mr. JAMES presented a petition, from certain inhabi ' tants of the metropolis, praying the House to address his Alajesty to pardon the Rev. Robert Taylor, and also that the House would pass an act to prevent all prosecutions for the I expression of opinions. Mr. DIXON presented a petition from the Glasgow Re. form Associatii,n, praying that the Reform Bill might be passed without the least possible delay. Sir JOHN %l. 1/01 - LE presented a petition from Leigh line-bridge. in the county of Carlow, praying that the 1 eo , man of Ireland might be disarmed. Mr. O'CONNELL said a more grievous calamity was never inflicted on Ireland than putting arms into the hands of a party yeomanry. Mr. 11 UST presented a petition from Mr. Peter Jeffery, of Cheapside, stating that the two piers of London Bridge, next the Surrey side, had sunk eight inches and a half more OD the eastern side than on the western side. Before be would present the petition he went to the bridge to ascertain the fact. He was glad to see that Old London Bridge was not being removed, as the public might be glad to resort to it again. He thought the subject was worthy the attention of his Majesty's ministers and the house, who bad voted away so much of the public money for building the bridge, and making the approaches. Mr. Alderman W OOD hoped the house would not feel alarmed at the statement they had heard, or feel any fear that London Bridge was in danger of falling. He had never heard the statement before. The work was superintended during its whole progress by competent persons, and no great work was ever carried on in a manner more satisfae wry to the persona interested in the completion of the work in the best manner; besides which security to the amount of 200.0001. was taken for the due toetiormance of the contract. He was sure the statement in the petition was founded in mistake; but immediate inquiry should take place.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. Alderman THOMPSON said he had passed a part of every day since the bridge was opened in its neighbour. hood ; and he had not before heard the slightest complaint. It was well known that every bridge settled after it was built, and he believed London Bridge had not settled more than the average quantity ; he felt confident that no public work could do more credit to those concerned than new Lon ton Bridge. Mr. Alderman VENABLES regretted that the Hon. Member should have presented a petition, for the statements of which there was not the slightest foundation. blr. HUNT moved that the petition be printed, and as serted that the statement it contained was correct. Mr. Alderman THO3IPSON hoperthehon. - gendernan would not press the printing of the petition till the state of the facts could be ascertained. Mr. HUNT complied, and withdrew his motion. Mr. GROSVENOR presented a petition from the owners of corn-mills, in Cheshire, against the importation of foreign flour. BISHOPRICI OP DERRY. Mr. HUhIE oiii;tiol7 lg h he was anxious not to belay the progress of the reform bill, he would not longer delay the motion of which he had given notice, respecting the revenues of the vaamt see of Derry, unless the noble lord opposite could give some assurance that Government would consider the subject. Lord ALTHORP said it was his opinion that the re venue of the See of Derry was a subject well worthy of the consideration of Government, and accordingly it was taken into consideration. It appeased to him that the Revenues of the Protestant Church should not b.: diverted to any other purpose ; bat that an improvement might be made in the distribution. This wzs the opinion of Government, but it was thought th:.t such an alteration should be made on a general principle ; it ras, therefore, determined that the person now to be appointed to the See of Derry should have notice that the revenues might at any time be made the subject of arrangement. lie hoped this would be satisfac tory to the Honourable Gentleman, and prevent hi; bring ing forward any motion on the subject at preseut.—(glean). Mr. IIU3IR said the information given by the wide lord was highly satisfactory. He was glad to bear that it was intended to make a general arrangement of the church reve nue of Ireland ; and should not bring forward any motion on the suLject lest he mi b lit do harm instead of gout'. QITAA•NTINE TEES. Mr. Ald. THOMPaiON said be could no longer delay bringing forward the stibizet of which he had given nixie, respecting the ch-sge of 51. 14s. Cal. made on every vessel befit.: she could be ill-charged from qoaraotinc. (Ilear.) —Hz thought dic est:1,11011.ml of varatithic was yreifectly just and reasonable ; but it was obvious it imposed a heavy loss the shipping inter:-t. (Hear.) Thz ownets had the captain anti *crew to maintain during the time they were under quarantine ; ;mei he thought ships were caller entitled to .'emurrsg.. for the v.hiell was inc. osed fry. the public good, in a.'elitits, to the loss of tim", be charged a heavy fee, t.hiell littri , g the przteut Quiarantin.. amounted to 25.0001. It was the intemion of Foreign Trade Committee t! the 8141)111 interest ther.lo b. ex empt from this eitarge.—There was no such charge 1•1211.! in Denmark or Sweden, and he thought it should not be al. lowed to continue a moment in this country. The Hon Gentleman moved that it is inexpeideut to subj,ct vessels. subjected to Quarantine to a charge of 51. 14s. Ott for at: order of release from the Privy Council. Mr. DIXON seconil..il the motion. The fee was a heavy charge on a suffering interest. 3lr. P. THO NISt 0N aid nut third, the tax fell on th; ship plug interest, because the shipowner would add it to the freight, and it must eventually full on the consumer; but he thought it an impolitic means of raising a revenue, and he was tot able to discover on what ground the charge was al loyed to be continued by the Foreign Trade Committee.— If the House was willing tha. the expcns.: of the quarantine Vliuuld be paid out of the general revenue rzther than raised on particular parties, Ministers were perfectly willing to make the arratigioent. The whole expense of quarantine wasabe ut 3,0001. a year on the average, of which ail hut about 6,0001. was rai , z.l by this tax, whit ie Government were perfectly ling should be abolished. Some vessels had keit citartered with the knowled c that day would be solijcct to quarantine fees, and if it were a delettly taken off it would be given those }croons the benefit at the expen.e of the Hz believed the charge fir. quarantine would this year he 'wavy, ;aid he thum.tht the house, while they adopted the principle, would nut think it expedient to carry it into effect immeitiately. Ile knew of no country in which the quarantine fees were so light as hi this. He thought they should not be removed till the beginning of the next rear, whet , all the present contracts fur freigitts would have terminated. - _ Mr. WARBURTON thought the charge should be taken off hnoiediately to prevent the Evasion of quaranlin: laws ; besides it was a partial tax, as it was the 'ante oo thc small est vessel as the largest. He thought it ought at once to be taken oft'. (Hear.) Mr. 51ABEItLV thought Government had iret the question fairly, and were justified in delaying to take off the charge till Ja, matt'. lilr. HUM I. thought not 0.-ly th the tax shieild betake , off immediakly, but that theist taw hail paid it should be reimbursett it wall all illegal .ax, and if b. hal a ship an charged tee would resist it. It was no. the origin of Ili:: fees to pay the expense of quarantine ; they had been first granted to Individuals. The Foreign Trade Cemmittee recom mended that all those fees should be; bolished, and the ac passed on that report did not authuris; the payment of these fees. Abolishing the fees vow would b.. but half justice.— He hoped the noble lord would consider that be was nnw in possession of 25,0001. to which he was nut entitled, and that he would restore it to the right owners. (A laugh.) The noble lord could not be so hard-hearted as to refuse the prayer of persons who only asked their right. He was satisfied that after the Baltic ships paid all their expenses there was not a shilling lift. ME. Rs sBI NSON entreated the Government to abolish the charg: from the present day. Sir M. W. RIDLEY thought it would be consistent with justice and policy to take off the tax from the present mo ment, and it would add to the favour of the repeal. Lord O. BENTINCK expressed his hope that government would abolish the tax without delay. Lord ALTHORP agreed in the principle that the tax should be repealed; but be thought, as tile vessels now In the Baltic had made their contracts fur freigh. subject to the tax, it would be more just to delay the abolition tiU after those vessels should have returned. - 111r.AlderQnYijailiiiiiiiaid the shipping interest felt the injustice of the tax so strongly, that they had in structed him to persevere, and he should divide the house. The house divided— Ayes .. ... Noss ... Majority against the motion.. 44 NATIONAL BAWL OF SCOTLAND CHARTER. Mr. DERitIES said he wished to call the attention of Jae house to the charter of the Bank of Scotland, which had been granted without conditions non thought necessary. He wished to have the charter brought before the house,diet it might afford information when the great question f tha banking system should bt brought before the house. Th, charter omitted to require an account of the no rs of the Bank In circulation, and also the amount of capital on which it traded. In 1829, the Royal Bank of Scotland applied for power to add 500,0001. to their capital, which was granted on the condition that the full sum should be be paid up, and that they should return all account of the amount of their notes in circulation ; with both of which conditions they cheerfully complied ; and he thought the National Bank should be subject to the same conditions. He moved fo, an athlrevs to his .51ajesty, to order a copy of of the charter of the National Bank of Scotland to be Laid be fore the house ; and also a copy of the deed of copartnership of the proprietors. The LORD ADVOCATE said, there was no objectiou on the part of the Government to the production of the do. cuments moved for. Mr. HUMS asked, whether the Right Hon. Gent. meant to propose any alteration in the existing charter. Mr. HERItIES said, he had no intention to propose an alteration in an existing charter. Mr. MABRRLY said, as almost all charters were in. jurious to the pLillie , the House should be exceedingly care ful how they consented to grant charters. He thought it was advisable to allow companies to sue and be sued in the name of an individual. Sir E. SUolliirssid, there was a growing desire in companies to become corporations, and to become possessed of real estate; the consequence of which would be, if al lowed, that every ho..se in the city would belong to a cot position. Another effect was, that such corporations started with a large nominal capital, but a very small real one. The resolution was agreed to. STEAM-BOAT NAVIGATION. COI. SIBTHORPE said, a sane of paramount duty coin. pelted biro to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice, for the prevention of those melancholy calamities that so often took place, by the loss of steam-packets. He had many documents to prove that tlie loss of the ltothsay Castle steamer was to be attributed to the most culpable negligence. If not on the part of the owners from insuf. fluent outfit, certainly on the part of one who wu now be. yond the reach of human power. He heard with surprise and regret, from the Secretary of War, that those packets were allowed, by the terms of their contract with the Govern ment, to hold themselves out to the public as his Majesty's War-office packeu. That fact made investigation on the part of Government ten-fold necessary. (Hear.) He had been told that such catastrophes did not often happen ; but even if it happened but once, it should be inquired into for the purpose of prevention. (Hear.) In 1817, 1819, and 1810, committees sat on the subject of the explosions that had taken place in steam-packets, without coming to any defini tive result; but he thought that was not a sufficient reason for not taking the subject he had to propose into considers. ion. He had two dearly beloved relatives on board the Rothsay Castle, who were induced to give that vessel the preference, in consequence of her being a War-office packet. Ile hoped Government would agree in his motion, if it were only to allay the wounded feelings of the suffering sur vivors. He moved that a committee be appointed to take into amsic'eration the calamities by steam navigation, and the best means of guarding against their recurrence. Mr. LAMB said he felt great pleasure in agreeing to the motion, though be was not very sanguine of any great result from their labours ; but it was due to the feLlings the afflicted survivors to appoint the committee. The resolution was agreed to and the committee appointed. Mr. CRORER asked rant was the intention of the noble lord respecting proceeding with the Scotch and Irish reform bills. Lord ALTHORP said the second reining of the Scotch reform bill stood for 3looday se'm fight, and is was his in tention it should be read then, if it did not iiitcrftre with the English bill, in which case lie should propose 0 : second rradhi:; as soon as the English bill was disposed of. CORONATION. Mr. HUNT said, in bringing forward the motion of which he had given notice, for an address to his Majesty to dis charge all mum debtors by au act of grow, on occasion of his 111:tjesty's Coronation, he dill hot think he was propos-1 ing thing injorims to the reverine, u nothing was ever got frem those debtors, must of whom were smusslers ; and it would release the counties from the charg of maintain ing themselves. their wives, and children. Ilc knew an ;nowise, in wide. a farina Li vtimers.tshire d been imprisoned sixties years fur acm An debt 301. thirinj which time h: cost tic coonty 301. tt year for !ii s support. Ther: were also many suffering all the lio.rors of L.oprision mutt from inability to pay th.ie fees. He r. add be gh.d it th: übject had been taken up by his Majesty's Ministers; but he hoped his having taken it in hand would not prevent its being agreed to. Th: Hon. Member said he knew that there were many poor persons in coninetnent who were de tained becaw: they were without th_ means of paying their gaol fees. He concluded with moving ihi.t au humble Ad dress b: resented to his Majesty, pr.ling for an Act oi Grace to be extended to all Crown debtors on th • approach ing Colutiation. Mr. HUM R approved of the motion. Lord i.T:t .ftP objected to th: form of the ihotion. Tu ester 4an Act of Urac: to dl Crown debtors would be too extmvugatit a measure, but he also thooght it would take from thc weight of the Art of Grace, should his Majesty b.: induced to grant it o r the application of that House. He suggested the propri:ty of waving it entirely in the hand. of his Majesty. Me. HUNT, after a short convrrsztion, in accordance with thc suggestion of the isiuble Chancellor of the Exche quer, withdrew his motim. Mr. HUNT then moved that the House do rads , : itself into a Committee of the wholz House nn Friday next, fot the purpose of taking into consideration the voting a gum cf money to procure the discharg: of persons v.im were impri soned for small debts. He mad: the motion on the approach. ing Coronation, that it nrigl.t make the rejoicing inuee gem. rah lle understood that it was irr:golar to name any sum. He would *nerdy locution that tic thought 30.0001. or 40,0001. might lie thu, appropriated, or at all events 24,0001. w; Mb was the price of the King's rube at the last coronation. If any of his Majesty's Ministers would dive him the slightest intimation, the Iron. Member would be happy to resign the motion to their care. Sir C. FORBES seconded thc proposal of the honourable member. Lord ALTHORP, on the motion being put from the chi.ir, remarked, that he considered it not a proper object to call upon the public expenditure for, as i► was hider for the subject of a private charity. Mr. II UhIR, while he approvzd of the humane feeling that might suggest suet a motion, was decidedly of °Ohio° that the public mo..:y could not be thus expended. Mr. HUNT regretted that the motion could nut be carried into effect, and consented to withdraw it. The r •port, for the purpose of empowering the Commis. si ners of MS Majesty's Treasury to defray the expenses of barristers in making up the list of voters, was brought up and received. REFORM RILL. Lord ALTIIOIIP, on die order of the day being read, intimated o with that the House 3110111t1 sit in Committee a little lam tha, night, as be was desirous to get through all h clauses of die Reform Bill except one, which was to have some more consideration on the following night. Sir IL SUGDEN said he had ro wigs to tbr►.w any ob ttaeles in the way to prevent the bin passing through Com mittee More the coronation. Mr. WILKB said he would consent to withdraw sonic of his &madmen's, of which he had given notice. LOrti U. rOMERSET could nut acquiesce with the re. quest of the Chancellor of ti.e Exchequer, not to debate •he clauses, agile iud a clause propose relating to Wales. 'a he House went into Committee ou the Reform Bill. Clause 45 was put, and agreed to. Clause 48 was put, and agreed to. Clause 47 was put, and agreed to. On Clause 48 being put, a long conversation followed. The clause was agreed to. Clause 49, enacting that different booths for taking the 1.611 shall be appointed for different parishes of a borough, and that the booths shall be subdivided into comparunents, so the. no greater number than 800 voters shall poll at each compatuncnt, teas then put, Air. HUNT said the clause enacted that notice of the situation, division, and allotment of the different booths, should be given by the returning officer to the candidates. He cumplal. ed that the candidates were too much taken care of, while the electors were neglected. How was an elector to kuuw at what compartment of a booth he was to vote. He undcrs.ood the elector could not vote unless be presented himself at the cumpartment alluted to his district. Notice of the allotmen, a. d situation of the booths should be given to the electing.. Str C. WETHERELL said, the returning officer, not knowing what portion of a parish coin' riscd 000 electors, would not be able to allot the compartments. Mr. S'i AN LEY said, the mode adopted in the clause had been in operation in the two last general elections. (Hear.) Sir E. SUDDEN observed, that in the two last general elections, the constituency was not so numerous as it would now be. _ Lord A LTIIORP could not see bow the augmentation of the constituency would render the system more difficult. It would cause the compartments to be more numerous, but would not change the mode of their formation. Mr. HUNT admitted that booths had been divided into compartments, but a particular compartment had not hitherto been allotted to a particular portico of the parish. He was sure the member for Wiudaor had had a hand in the drawing up of the present clause, and that his object was to prevent the electors of Preston from knowing where they were to vote. Air. WILKS thought tiu. number of booths unnecessarily multiplied. After a few words from Mr. STRICKLAND, Mr. Owen', and Mr. FaxsuriELD, relative to the period when the re turning officer should declare the state of the poll, Lord ALTHURP moved that after the words enacting that the poll-books shall be opened the day after the last day of polling, these words should be added :—Provided that the returning officer may, if he thinks fit, open the poll books and declare the state of the poll, and make the return immediately after the poll shall have been lawfully closed. The amendment was agreed to. Mr. AVILKS proposed as an amendment, that the booths should be divided into compartments only in places where the number of electors exceeded I,ooo.—Agreed to. Sir R. GORDON proposed the addition to the clause of the following words, " Provided that no nomination or re election be made in any place of worship." After a few words from Sir R. Sugden, Mr. Croker, Mr. Peel, and Lord Althorp, the amendment was agreed to. The clause, as amended, was then declared part of the Bill. The CHAIRMAN read Clause 50, directing that booths for taking the poll at elections should be erected at the ex pense of the several candidates. Mr. HUGHES HUGHES moved that the booths be erected at the expense of the County, City, or Borough for which the election was held. Sir E. SUDDEN said the amendment was calculated to induce strangers to go into Cities and Boroughs to break the connection between persons of property in those places and the electors. Lord A LTHORP thought there would be no injustice in throwing the expense of erecting the booths on the can didates. Captain SPENCER thought the poll might be taken in houses, which would save the expel= of erecting booths in many instances. Lord JOHN RUSSELL agreed that in many eases it might be a great advantage to take the poll in houses, and he thought there was nothing in the bill to prevent it. Mr. HUGHES withdrew his amendment. The clause was agreed to. The CHAIRMAN read clause 61, requiring the return. ing Aker to give lists of the electors for each booth. Agreed to. Clause 52, giving power to deputies of returning offc ts, was agreed to without observatiots. Clause 53, regulating the election for Monmouth And or,. tributary lodrunglus in Wales—Agreed to Clause 51 applied the elecdian laws to places appointed! return Members nudtr this Act.—Agreed to. Clause 55 imposed penalties on officers e. elections ing their duties, and gave paths a 1 , 1 belt, gui tap, actions against the officers, lbdi etre:Aids ; 3001. Lord ALTHORP though t ed: clause was on. necesrart, and wished I.c .to be rout. id!ered a hen the report st.is brought up. —The clause was agreed to. Clause 56, disqualifyirg persone holtiing offices, was agreed to without ohs.trvatio d. Clause 57 imposed a renr.i.y of 101. on any person per. sonati . dg an elector nt elsetior, ansl ...iwitialifying him front vntlo:. at any (Ledo. , ever after. Mr. WII.KS moved titas the penal y 501.—Agreed to. I. ass also resolved tls..t sise should be impris whorled not exceedi'ig six mon.lts. The clause so antensl.J was ag,reet l to. Clause 58 directed low miss stele to be framed.— Agreed to. Clause 59 exempted Co: eleetiors for .he Universities of Oxford :old Catu'uritlize etout the oise a in. of tit:. net. The CHAIRMAN nwreil (louse 00—tile last. (Loud cheering from tdl I arts uf the house.) The clause id•ovided, 6-at words Cities nod Cotouglis in the Ac. s'sould include all thnt vier: tutidle.7. to re torts 51.M..ers o Cumties vita the Uddi. virsities. Colonel SIBTHOILPE, -.midst the laug'st:r ef the Isou-e, said, l'zregt.ttul th. start. of O.: bill di wit!e:i th-y oat at. rived. He le - 410pin:se:I it con -eit&litut-ly, I could con. tiro: to do so, h: I. It eantid.nt th t a bill like that could osv:r pas. (Great la ighter.) data, WIT agars! to. ..ew eLss•es sever.:lly vat, a fibs and second -time, site's- Ti • CI:A SCELLOR the EXCHEQUER noted di. Ric Clink...an cpua ogi..ss rod ask leave to 1Vp:;41 ; Le titi.;teLl it util.l ha for die last tint,. (Cheer,.) ./ he CHAIRMAN then rrpurnd propess accordingly, .red obtained Lave it, sit again 11,1 i try. The other orders of th; .lay tvrre then of, ac! the House Adjoitmed a f. o &chide. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. BRUSSELS PAPERS.-THIS DAY. - - BILII&SELS, SEPT. 3.—We extroet tha following fart theSourief of Brussels Na have feetivrd from PAlii Ltter. u.. cit Augns• 31. " Atti,: do rt Brave's, Aug. 28, has gives rise to loony r:flectiLnas. 1 kilo v from guod a .-hurity, rir a minister iu ler.all3 i -aid. • fbev Bel& s ite fool,. 'rimy vottlfl have s to au wi It 01l I.usope fir their sake, 111,:tat!t g of stirsr,viun et:Cray in I:,.ir fr.tour, and at ye. Lit:t vaa, has been done.' '• cy lo v.: rot, lortv.v.r. •ow o combat, and mutt am to aulnui .0 ti.• n:cish.ns of the Conference. " lVe tieehl.d, i.• concert will the Conference, .he r aceeiuu o. s.paaion, end have iodated King Willi•ato to renounce hi, rijhta of b. .v. rdinty ova by dca,rini t.. th. - t In th.tt caw, these conditions shook• guaranteed to Dollard by the five powers, and •leclar.d iratrocabie. The Kiog of d having ac. (Tided dim proposals, they havd Leconte bindieg upon the five Powers, anti Aril cannot make u.•y change et them r. alsout the cancan t f Hollond. • B.shles this, Bight... and is Kir g cannot be Tee:g ab:A t v the ITC Powers, Mow 11:1 1 riom agrees ;o the twin., of the separation %hid) have beet. guaranteed to Hol- L.rJ. sod declacd irrevocable. 1 can warrant that these are the very words of the 31i. i.ter. Aini I authotize you to publish A French regiment has been encamped since yesterday in the suburb of Anderkebt. T,.e return o. Otis regiment has givat strength to Cie report, that tit.. French army au again goitig to mike a movement in advance. We have learned nettling that authorises .a to confiut this news. Inde;esident announced yesterday that 4000 English would soon arrive in the citadel of Antwerp. This news LS! seems to us to b.: very doubtful.—Emancipation. Tnu the tof the French army arrived here yesteaday— several millions have been lodged in the bank. ORDER OF TEE DAY. Tie minister of war Informs the army, that by a decree of the king, of the 19th of last month, the commander, of the di visions and brigades uf ti.: army, and those of the provinces are PP follows: Conmunder of the lel Divison of In fantry ... ... .. General Wanthier. 2d Ditto .. Goethals. 3d Ditto Tie ken de Terhove. . . Division of Cavalry • • Duriiier. Is. Brigade, Ist Div. Infantry Niellun. 2d Ditto ... Al dherbe. Ist Ditto, 2d Div. ... De Tahoe. 2d Ditto ... •.. Clump. Ist Ditto, 3e) Div. . Vila de Break. 2d Ditto ••• NYPeIL lat Brigade, Light Cavalry De Maineffe. 24 Ditto ... .. Colonel De Brim. Commander of the Province of West Flanders—Brigadier. General d • Malden. Bast Flatiders.=Co L Moyer. Bra ban t—Col. Annul. Lemberg—Brigadier -General Vandermeere. Lif ge— Col. Ysbrand de Lendrich. Luxembourg—Baton. Namur—Al erten% Haioau•—Brigadier-General Duval de Blargonies. General it, Tabor will retain for the present the command of the Province of Antwerp. LCx!]lßYa6—•Dishier of Luxenburg.—The elections for the district of Luxemburg took place on 29th August. at Lamer, a village about two leagues from the city of Luxemburg. The number of electors inscribed in the lists wa• 1100; only 303 appeared to vote. Among eleven hundred electors Inscribed there was not a single inha. ballot of the Mmes.. Only the inhabitants of the etrobtry were therefore called on to vote. Their choice a a &note shewa .heir good sense. Of 303 votes, 275 were for 31. Thorn, our Governor ; 26 for M. Tenant, for. merly Member of the States.Gentral ; 2 votes were null.— M. Thorn was, of course, declared Senator. M. Berger, Judge of the Tribunal of Arlen, Member of the National Congress, was chosen Deputy to the &con Chamber.—Cr ussels Papers, Sept. 4. PARIS PAPERS. The contents of these, as far as respects Belgium and Poland, are entirely superseded by our ow•n advices—the Dutch and Hamburgh mails—thus we have Berlin papers to Sept. 2, and the papers just received quote those of k ' 24 , —ugust . . From the Journal du Commerce, We find the following article in the Semaphore of Marseilles :—" It is said that, immediately after the resignation of M. Arnavon, sixty captains and other officers will also give theirs. It is also said that all these resignations are caused by the re-or ganization of the National Guard. If this re organization should take place, it will be an addi tional element of civil war." The same Journal says, in another article— •" Let the Governors reflect well; Marseilles is the point to which the eyes of the whole south are turned. Let civil war break out at Marseilles, and it will soon be in the Var and at Vaucluse, in the Gaud and the Herault. The Carlists are organised. the Chiefs are appointed; they break out from time to time, to give signs of life to their adepts and to , feel the ground. The Duchess of Berry is at Moose; Charles the Tenth has just arrived there with a train of six carriages, if the letters from Ge noa speak the truth. A steam boat is engaged. ready to put to sea at a moment's notice ; the coasts of Provence are not too well guarded, and in many places the exiles of Holyrood would find friends ; thanks to the gentleness of the Director- General of the Customs. It is necessary that the southern departments should be well governed. Men of pure intention , and well disposed towards the Government, are not sufficient ; they must be cast in a mould of brass, and their souls ought to be as strongly tem pered as those of the most remarkable citizens of ancient times or of our days." I Ore fter and aid . or• t re- a [di- t is are a end the ed. to to at ere ;C- -ed. the in Or' 1 au P Ire a of n- of