Star. — London, England, 1814-07-16 00:00:00

were not the whole rE'6O;NIO given up instead of 430,000 only ? Then there was the Duchy of Corn. wall revenue, which WAS Called £13,000 a year. He could not tell what it was ; but he was sure that was an old estimate, mid that it had muc h increased, particularly during the last five years._. But, however, taking it so, here was a sum of £83,000 a year, fir which no account n'ed be given. Th us , vn the Consolidated Fund, his Royal Highness 114(1 1 £65,000 a year; making 414.8,000 a year. Of this list, 4 4 22,000 had been allotted to the Princess of %Vales ; and it was said that £30,006 were set apart to pay former debts. This left, alter all, 476,000. t t‘ras it not too much to augment the Princess's in eme by £15,000 out of the public purse, when the Regent had £76,000 ? Twenty years ago all the Royal Family were on the Civil List, yet its arrears cecasioned sharp debates with the country gentlemen ; though, then, rewards to eminent persons were given irons it. Now it was a mere nominal thing. It might be more convenient to confine the grant to the family, and discuss all the rest as miscellaneous services. By the scale now going on, 4250,000 a year must come (rem the public purse to make good the deficien cies, as the Admiralty Droits would cease. He now came to tar: extraordinary quarter from which they were not escaping, as they were only beginning to learn its expense. The Treasury and the Chan cellor of the Exchequer had much to answer for, for not getting the usual estimates. After a va riety of remarks on this subject, he read a report of the late Mr. Wyatt, pointing out the mode of pro ceeding respecting the business of the Board of Works, as to previous representations of the necessity of works, and the estimates thereupon ; all which were now neglected. He did not blame the Prince's offi cers ; they might be supposed not so careful about expenses ; but he blamed the Treasury, with whom the business essentially rested. It would be no an swer for the Chancellor of the Exchequer to say he quite in a hurry about the Foreign Princes. He, surely, was not running among the mob to get a sight of the Emperor ! (A luugh.l But he seemed now to say—" do something handsome, and give 4100,000." He (Mr. Tierney) would not have scru tinized the sum rigorously, if asked for properly ; but this same quarter was £177,000 beyond pieced ing quarters, and there was to be afite of £13,000, making £192,000. The Right Hon. Gentleman, perhaps, thought it made little difference to our illus. trious visitors, whether they saw the fetes, or wit nessed preparations for what was to be done, when they were gone ?—that they would be quite as well pleased with a glimpse of the young Ranelagli rising in Carlton House Gardens ? If the Right Honour able Gentler ian had procured an estimate, he would have found that the thing proposed could not have been done in time, and be might have stopped it. But itseemed all this arosefrom our Sovei eign not hav iag such fine large palaces as monarchs abroad. They had therefore comfortable hopes of seeing by and by the erection of a Versailles or a Tuilleries. Yet the fact was, that the Regent entertained the Foreign So. vereigus very well in his own palace. Of course, the nrbanity and grace of his Royal Highness would suf ficiently adorn any place; and he really believed that the magnificence of Carlton House was quite enough fur the illustrious guests. He hoped, after all, that the Right Honourable Gentleman would pause a little before lie set about bulldog; such palaces as were said to he in contemplation—whether truly cm not, he must best know. He bad to hope lie would not be led away by the beauty of a drawing or the fancy of an architect; but would recollect that here, in a country where people think money worth coesi deraeion, he might happen to be called upon a!tet wards in a way he might not much like— ( Year. )- -In the £112,000 excess of the Chamberlain's de. partment, the extra charge for royal visitors was £32,000. Now this was not for eating and drinking, but he learned, for furniture. I-low could this be, as the Emperor lived at the Pulteney Hotel with his sister, and went only one day to the Duke of Cum berland's apartments ? The King of Prussia stayed at the Duke of Clarence's house. From all he could hear, no two men could look less for royal trappings than the Russian and Prussian Monarchs ; particu larly.the Emperor, who, on various occasions, mark ed his disposition in this respect. But was all this furniture lost, or was it, as he was told it was, a perquisite ? He believed it would never be accounted for. lie was informed that the Queen's house had been nearly new furnished, from top to bottom, with these goods. Why, then, this might appear only like a pretence in providing them for the Sovereigns ? Was not this extravagance ? There was a sum for Carlton House of £20,000 far upholders, and or ftiouliu, and clocks and watches, and the rest. Tile very last year it was said that £61,000 were spent for the inside of Carlton House. Yet this year Carlton House costs £76,000, what with wardrobe and board of works, and new rooms, and s.; forth. All this on the back of J€ 61,000 ; so that Carlton House alone, in fifteen months, cost £137,000! — An outfit of £lOO,OOO was expended not long ago, or else it was not applied as Mr. Perceval proposed ! Charges for plate, harness, &c. were made out, inde pendent of the Master of the Horse, &c. &c. Har ness alone was one year £6OOO ; another year £6OOO edd ; and another, 47000 odd. All might be right, though he could not see how. Another recent article we; 410,000 for journics. How could coining from Diver and back, and some other travelling including the King of France, amount to so much ? The Duke of Montrose deserved credit generally, for his ac counts; but as this was only estimate, lie hoped for settle diminution in that quarter, notwithstanding the necessary charges of post-chaises and four.— was stated that no return could be had yet •roni the Lord Steward's ollice, as the bills were o voluminous, or so difficult to make ont.— That he could not believe, as that department was v.:11 arranged ; and particularly from what he knew of my LordCholmondely, and still more of Mr. Brent. But if there was a Committee, and he could put qiies. *ions to Mr. Brent, he should get good answers, which, I. thought, would lead to desirable diminutions of expense. Notwithstanding all this expenditure, the buil:lts, was only beE inning. The Grand Fete was yet to come, and the new Renelagh was still to be exhi bited. lie supposed he should have the opportunity of reading all about these fine doings in the public newspapers ; for lie did not expect he should have much to do with them himself. —(4 laugh.) —He was very sorry for having trespassed so long on the House on so disagreeable a subject ; but he felt that in dotug ' he was only di sc h arg i ng hi s d u ty t o t h e p eo pl e o i England. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed, that almost the whole excess on the Civil List would be found in the political part of it : there had been very little in the Household department.— Ihe whole amount of excess was not above e 20,000 a-year. The excess in the political department he conceived to be more properly the object of the scru tiny of Parliament ; and if the Right Honourable Gentleman, or any other Member, wished for more minute details upon that head, there was no disposi tion on the part o f G overnment to w i t hh o ld them.— . I , lte principal exce s s re l a t e d to our f o reign Ministers in Spain and Portugal, which arose from the peculia rity of their situation, from the exchange being against us, and from the price of provisions, &c. which was great beyond all precedent. The extraordinary ex penses of the last quaiter were such as would natu rally so ike the Right Honourable Gentleman ; but , that sort of extraordinary carnival which had just elapsed, might have prepared the House for them. The 822,000 in the Lea d Chamberlain's depart. ment, were for the buildings, viz. the Drawing room, Conservatory, &c. at the back of Cadton- House. With regard to the rotunda erected in the gardens of Carlton-House, it partook in some degree of the nature of a permanent building, as it could be taken down and put up again at pleasure—(a laugh). With regard to the £32,000, it should be remem bered that the apartments 6f the Duke of Cumberland were completely prepared for the Emperor of Russia, and in such a way as would not have been unworthy of him, had he thought fit to take up his residence there. Some preparations also were made for the Emperor of Austria, and the Right Hon. Gentleman was much misinformed, if he thought the furniture in question had, or would become the perquisites of any person. It was all secured to the Prince Regent, to be applied by him in any way he thought proper, either to decorate his own Palace, or for any other purpose he might choose, except what was sent to Portsmouth for the reception of the Royal Visitors there, and which, by an old custom, was to be kept there. A considerable sum was also necessarily ex pended in fitting up the yachts. With respect to the de partment of the Master of the Horse, the extraordinary expenses connected with it were easily accounted for. When the various journies of the late illustrious visi tors, not merely from Dover to London, but to Ox ford, to Portsmouth, &c. and when the number of persons to be provided with suitable equipages (though only a limited number of whom a list was procured were so provided) were considered, the Committee would, be was sure, be aware that the items could be explained very much to their satisfaction.— All persons who had resided in London during the last six weeks must, indeed,have been aware that both in carriages and in attendance, the wear ana tear of the department of the Master of the Horse must have been far beyond that of ordinary times. The Hon. Gentleman had made his observations on the subject in a very candid manner. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) admitted that the Treasury was re sponsible, and he repeated his confession that for some of the items there had not been, as in ordinary periods, sufficient tinle for detaileu estimates. But as ! tar as circumstances would allow he cotild assure the ' Committee that there had been no reprehensible oe gligencc on their part. Mr. TIERNEY, adverting to the declaralien on the part of the Right Honourable Gentleman, that the £32,000 worth of furniture was not to.be given as a perquisite, but was to be retained as a st•lre, ob served, that his Royal Highness would thereby have o mach more than be waited. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that a great part of that furniture was of such a nature, that it could not be expected that the uphol sterer would take it bAck. Lord YARMOUTH declared, that the Lord Chamberlain did nut know any thing cl the pep na tions in the Park, until he saw them ►n riding through it—(Hear, hear, hear.) Mr. TIERNEY congratulated the House and the country on the manner in which this business had been conducted ! Mr. WHITBREAD inquired who had given the orders for the preparations ? A pause mined, when Mr. WIIITBREAD repeated his question. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replitd, that he presumed, the proper officers. Mr. IVIiITBREAD asked who they were ? Be fore he could agree to the vote, he must know that fact. Lord CASTLEREAGH uhccrved, that in a CAW of this natiire, the pleasure of the Sovereign might be considered a sufficient authority. The particular na ture of the circumstances did not admit a strict adhe rence to ordinary rules. But under these es;•eci.il cir cumstances, the proceeding, which was not very capa ble of estimate, might probably be permitted to pass, without, however, allowirq it to be drawn into a pre cedent. Mr. TIERNEY denied that there could be any ab solution of advice. Without meaning to attack the Lord Chamberlain, he was unquestionably responsi ble. An estimate should have been framed by the Lord Chamberlain and submitted to the Treasury. Ile denied that the proceeding was incapable of esti mate. Lord CASTLEREAGH denied that the Sove reign could not give a fete without asking advice. As to estimates, the transactions of the Household would not always allow a strict adherence to the forms of pt oceedinlz. Mr. TIERNEY allowed, that of a mere dinner party no estimate could be expected ; but when 2000 persors were invited, it was the duty of the Lord Chamberlain to prepare a proper estimate of the expeEse. Mr. \VYNNE remarked that the great officers of die Crown held their appointments on the condition of their responsibility. Mr. NV If ITBREAI) again asked, who was the person who communicated with the Treasury on this subj-ct, and to whom the Treasury gave their sanc• tion to can y the projected plans into effect ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed that a part of the irregularity had arisen from there having been nn Surveyor-General, and the business having necessarily been transacted by inferior officers. Mr. W. SMITH said that if it were proposed to expend 2,3 ; or .6400,000 in the erection of a new palace for the Sovereign, it would r.3t give sucl; dissa tisfaction as this ;caste of money by driblets of 2( or 430,000 at a time. • Lord CASTLE REAG H hoped ti.at because there might be an official flaw in the proceeiliN, the Com- mince would not be induced to treat it with severity. It was natural that the great event of peace, aftet such a war, should not be allowed to pass without j some kind of rejoicing, in which the people at large might participate. As to the naval paft.of the pre parations, he confessed he did not see much merit in diem, until, on riding into the Perk, he there ob served, that they had drawn together an assemblage of beauty and civilization of which no other metro polis could boast, a circumstance which compelled him to acknowledge their value.—(4 laugh.) After some further observations from Mr. W. SMITH, Mr. WYNN, and others, the Resolution was agreed to. The following sums were then voted : For making good the Arrears of the Civil List 41100000 For the Royal Can a l M , OO For the Board of Agriculture. 3,000 For Repairs of the two Houses of Parliament-- 10,074 Mr. Scrjeant ONSLOW suggested the propriety of increasing the Salary of the Speaker, which had not been raised since the Union. The House then resumed, and the Report was or dered to be received to-morrow. The House then went into a Committee on the Irish Seditious Meeting Bill. Sir H. PAR/TELL moved, as au amendment, that the words " within the in t e r v e n t i o n of Grand or Petty Juries" should be left out. Mr. PEEL opposed the amendment; as did Mr. BAritunsT, Mr. M'NAUGHTEN, Mr. FITZGERALD, and others. The Committee then divided—Fnr the Amend ment, 6—Against it, 66—Majority, 60. The several other clauses were agreed to, and the Reprt ordered to be received to-morrow (this day). Adjourned at Two o'Clock. THE EVENING STAR. LONDON, SATURDAY, JULY 16, 1814. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY A'l' TWELVE O'CLOCK. Reduced 68P, —Cons. 68—for acc. 6914 4 per Ct. 84-U-5 per Ct. Navy 9i }—Oran. e. pre. Bank Long Aniu. 16 9-16thsi—IndiA Bonds, 13s. 14s. pre. We have great pleasure in stating that, notwith standing insinuations to the contrary, the interchange of paternal and filial affection between the PRINCE REGENT and the PRINCESS CII A RLOTTE conti;:ues undi m;nished by any of the late occurrences. Her Royal Highness is still at Carlton House ; nor has access been refused to those whom she has expressed a wish to see : and we understand that an order has been issued by the PRINCE REGENT, for all letters and com munications, either from or to the PurNcEss, to pass without interruption. Ali Ii books and correspon dence have beca placed in her nem apartments, pre cisely in the gat,: in which they were in 'Warwick- House. Next week her Royallllness will set our for Cranhourn in Wind ;: , r Fs)rec•t, where she will remain for a few days ;—al;.•r which, should sea. bath:ng be recommended by her Physicians, the PRIN.. cEss will proceed CO Worthing or Brighton. We have received Paris Papers of the 13th instant. On the I(2th, Abhe MoxTF.sot•tou, Minister of the In terior, in the name of the King, delivered in the Cham'-.er cf Deputies, a kind of E.viori- of the state of the kingdom. It affords a most melancholy picture of the miseries ii.flicted upon France by BONAPARTI. The Minister commences by blaming the war as the cause of all these miseries. At the end of the cam paign, in Russla, i. e. fin the 11th of January, 1813, f;i0,1)(10 fresh conscripts were called out, by one de cree: in the course o! that year the armed force in France was, mminelly, augmented by lioxAzimurs - .'s decrees, to one million three hundred thousand men ! the whole of these, it is true, were never raised, but the expenses incurred by the Govntiment, in forming depots, and the ruin brought upon the inhabitants by the consequent requisitions, were n:vertheless great beyond precedent. The immense waste of population created by the war was made up, in some measure, by the success of vaccination, and even by the conscription laws themselves : early, but immoral and improper mar riages, to avoid the conscription laws. A sickly po pulation, however, was the result—men above the age of twenty were scarcely to be seen. Under t he head of Agriculture, the prospect k more tlatte:ing. The cultivation of lands and the breeding of cattle have of late years been better un derstood. The proprietors of vineyards have suffered dreadfully, however, under the Continental System. The attempts to breed Merinos have totally failed, in eiinsequence of the imprudent measures adopted by BONAPARTE. The breed of horses, until the fatal years 181'2 and 181:1, was also excellent, and afforded a numerous cavalry. The loss of a few months, in these years, amounted to two hundred and thirty thousand horses. The stock was, of course, exhaus ted. Every horse cost the Government at the rate of four hundred, or four hundred and sixty franks— about £2O sterling. The working of the mines of France, manufac tures, mechanics, and chemistry, have greatly im proved—the cotton manufactures employ 4.00,000 workmen, and a capital of 100 millions of francs.— The war with Spain has injured the manufacture of silk and woollen stuffs. The silk procured from Italy was not equal to the demand. Under the head of Commerce, the licence system is accused of having ruined the trade of France. " Such (says the Ex poi;) is the present situation of the ogricultural, commercial, and manufacturing interests of the nation : that activity which required , nly liberty and encouragement, has been incessantly -.tiered and retarded by the influence of a Govern nent, which, by wishing to domineer over or to reate every thing, destroyed in the very root the ood which it pretended to protect. " If we sow turn to the department of the Mini -er of the Interior, the situation will appear still nore deplorable." Thelwantsof this Department for current expenses, in consequence of the war, amounted of lite 'Tars to 140 or 150 millions—of this sum about fifty millions only were supplied by regular taxes, the rest was provided for by special requisitions, which tbr Mi nister of the Interior was compelled to resort to of his own accord. The public works were of course neglected, and the money applied to the ruinous pro jects of BONAPARTE. Under the head of Hospitals it is stated, that for the last three years they have been totally without any support from Government : the Minister of War is indebted to the Hospitals of Paris alone in the sum of one million and a half of francs fur sick and wounded soldiers. The hospitals are also without medicines, furniture, or bedding. Under the bead Public Works, it is stated, that with the exception of these at Paris, they have been all neglected. In the department of the Mi:,ister of War all is chaos and confusion : the armed force on foot in France at the end of May, amounted to 5'20,000 men. To these may be :.dded nearly 100,000 priso ners of war, who have since returned, and about 120,000 who are on half-pay. The campaign of 1812 and 1313 consumed a capital of 250 millions of francs (re 10,425,000 stet-nag) for artillery and field equipments alone ! The Report next alludes to the Navy : the project for the invasion of England was the ruin of the French Navy! One hundred and fifty millions of money were sacrificed to this chimera :—all the naval timber in the dock-yards was used for useless flat-bottomed ves sels, and the best seamen-were taken from the ships of the line to manoeuvre them in the presence of the old women and children of France. Even Paris ex hibited the spectacle of flat-bottomed boats on the stocks for the invasion of England ! But all this was nothing to the dreadful expenses attending the naval preparations in the Scheldt,all of which proved equally futile and useless. The naval operations at Cber bourgh and Toulon were alone of any andvantage to France, and even these had been disregarded and fet tered by the pursuit of extraneous objects : every where else, nothing but ruin presents itself in the French marine. In fifteen years France has lost forty-three ships of the line, 82 frigates, 76 corrcttes, and 62 smaller vessels. No timber fit fOr naval purposes now exists in France, or of experienced seamen to navigate the ships of war which remained. The former was used fur the Boulogne flotilla, the latter were drafted as soldiers into Spain and Germany, where they perished. The loss of the Colonies and the interruption of the Fisheries, render an immediate supply next to im possible. Under the Head of Ministry of Finance, where, as the Reporters observe, all ought to be regularity, we meet literally with " Confusion worse confounded." The public debt amounts to 1,643,469,000 francs, or £655,612,083 sterling. The E.vitari concludes with a most melancholy picture of the state of religion and morality in Fr rice. Religion was restored by BoxaP.sim it is true, but it was only to make it subservient to his ern vile system of despotism. The path to prefer. ment with him lay not through the Temple of Ho nour or of Virtue, but through the sanguinary and disLonourable ho:-bids of Vice and Corruption-- No per on was sure of enjoying hits place for an hour under such a despot : he therek , re made has:e to get rich, and so upled not to ti.; his m otets by raFine and mut der ; these were crimes for which he knew Box APART I; would n.:ver punish any man ! On the contrary, titles, dignities, and riches awaited him who was most pre-eminent in villainy and crime! We regret that our limits %sill not permit us to give this interesting document at length to-day. An officer has reached town from Astoria-. who gives us a most mel...neholy picture of condithin of affairs in Spain. All the ancient expedients of lcvenue which have been so oppressive to the country, are re vived by the new Government. LIVERPOOL, Jet.v 14.—Arrived the Paris, Hanittsots, frogs* Marantichi, from whence she sailed on the Bth of June ; a single ship. On the 20th of June 1:11 In with a flee:, under convoy of a frigate and a sloop of war, in lat. 47. 37. long. 54 13. steering tip the Gulph of St. I.:mtance. On the 210 of J one spoke his LThjesty'a ship Rue Al. OAK, in lat. 4G. 44. long. 53. ::0. bound to t NN:th 1000 trooo on beard. .1 - be Robert Huntelt, Altiu iy, frost A'.tigua ; the N'ittoria, Pentherton, from ditto; the Furothall. Cooper, fur Barhado,:s; and the Contract, Spencer, for ditto, were captured off Ber muda about the t oth May, by the 1-1.-ru American privateer. the Contract was ' , Linden d and given up to the crew, and ar rived at Bermuda, the rest were sent for Antertca. The Hero sailed from L'Orient 13th Arril, and bail taken 16 or 18 vessels. WEsTSIINSTER ELL( l utx.—This morning at ten o'clock Covent Garden was crowded with the inha bitants of Westminster, to proceed to the election of a Member to fill the seat rendered vacant by the expulsion of Lord COCHRANE. After the High Bailiff had read the SPEAKER'S Warrant for Election, Sir FRANCIs BUItDETT came forward, and amid great applause addressed the Electors in a speech of considerable length, in which he alluded to the hoax on the Stock Exchange as a link in the system of hoaxing which, he said, had been attempted, but without SUCCE4S, to be attached to Lord COCHRANE. He said this was the aqe of hoaxes—the public were amused with them eves y day. The bax of a sea-fight, to be performed by men of war, made of canvas, in one Park ; the hoax of a land-battle, to be fought with squibs and crackers in another park ; the hoax that the people were truly represented in Parliament by Members known to be returned by Borough-mongers; and the at tempt to hoax the people of Westminster out of the Representative whom they had with so much I: neur to themselves sent to Parliament, and who he could not doubt, would be instantly re-elected to spew to the nation that they remained as incorruptible as ever, and were determined not to be hoaxed. The nomination of Lord COCHRANE was secon ded by Mr. STURM h , who paid his Lor dshi p some and some compliments. The nomination was received with universal accla mation, and his Lordship, after a few words from Alderman WOOD, was declared duly elected.—The , whole business occupied only about an hour.