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P • 111 ?i- -h". ley vtd le AS y ri :eit the it ial 'otic sit er..t rd- nit iir nee .reie 1 1 mot erg on 11111 I it xts ed, en. iu ti the of W Its her . • • . - ,''~'~`. bt fro LADIES and GENTLEMEN, Riding, Driving, Promenading, Visiting Close Arsemblier. or Enjoying Aquatic Excursions, is recommended ROWLAND'S KALYDOR, For the Skin and Complexion, II ( I . 1,1 ) N 0/ / X o tirravaft2.o sinacAze rex 1788. _ - An inestimable, mild, and innocent Production, powerfully efficacious in rendering the Skin delightfully cool and re freshing, thoroughly exterminating ERUPTIONS, TAN, PIMPLES, FRECKLES, REDNESS, and all Cute. nevus imperfections ; producing a Delicate White Skin, and Juvenile Bloom to the Complexion; preser.ings it from the HEAT OF SUMMER, affords SOOTHIZtIO RE LIEF in cases of SUN BURNS. STINGS of INSECTS, or a ny Inflammations. It immediately allays the smarting irritability of the Skin, diffusing a PLEASING COOL NESS truly comfortable and refreshing; affords soothing relief to Ladles nursing their offspring r warranted perfectly :nnoxious to the most delicate Lady or Infant. GENTLEMEN after SHAVING and Travelling in Sun and Dust, will find it allay the irritating and smarting pain, and render the skin smooth and pleasant. Price 4s. Bd. and Es. 6d. per bottle, Duty included. •• To prevent Imposition the Name and Address of the Proprietors is ENGRAVED ON THE GOVERNMENT STASH' affixed over the cork of each bottle. All others are spurious. ROWLAND'S MACASSAR OIL, The Original and Genuine, A VEGETABLE PRODUCTION, possessing won derful salubrious properties, superior to other p for IMPROVING, BEAUTIFYING, and P re rat u r PING THE HAIR, during TRAVELLING, BA THING, and VIOLENT EXERCISE, and to retain it in vigour to the latest period of life, is pre-eminently suc cessful ; preventing all the Hair falling off, or turning grey, &c. and adding a most fascinating and delectable_ap- Fearance. Price 3s 6d-75.-10s fki and 21s per bottle. NOTICE—Each Genuine Bottle of the Original Macao. sae Oil is enclosed in a wrapper, which has the Name and Address, in !led on Lace-work, " A ROWJ.AND & SON, SO, Hatton Garden," Countersigned Alex. Rowland. The bottle is enlarged, and the prices are Se 61-711-10 s Al and 21s per bottle—all other prices, or any without the book and label, are counterfeits. N. 13,907. FRIDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 7, 1831. PRICF. SEVENPEN.T. 1311 1 ERIA lIA EAIIENT. HOUSE 01 — rniWEI, Ocr. S. The assemblage of peete.eu and ladles of distinction be low the bar was much greater than on any preceding even ing. Lord TENTERDEN, in the absence of the Lord Chan cellor. took his seat on the woolsack at a quarter past four o'clock. Sir J. C. Hosuotree, Mr. LITTLICTOM• and whin from the COllllllOlll, brought up the Vestry Bill, the White Boy Act BM. Public Hospitals (Ireland) Amendment Bill, the Customs Fees Regulation Bid, the Payson of Waga in Goods Repeal BM, and the Payment of Wages in hlo. ney Bill, which, on the modon of the Earl of Bhalt ibury, were reads lint time. The Earl of CAM PERDO WN presented a petition from Cupar In favor of the reform bill. Earl RADNOR presented a similar petition from Berk shire. Lard GOWER premated a from the Staftbrdshirt Potteries, praying many might be added to soh A, and that the c b ar t h Stole.apos. Treat might be considered. The noble Lord also presented petitions in favour of reform from a perish in the West Ri ding of York, and front Rem. The Earl of Fingal, the Marquis of Hesdfort, the Mar quis of Cleveland, and the Marquis of Westmeath presented petitions from different pats of Galway for the extension of the elective franchise. PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THIS CAU TION on purchasing, is respectfully solicited, as the pro prietors cannot be responsible for the serious injury result ing from the use of base imitations now offered to the Public. ROWAND'S ESSENCE OF TYRE, 701 l CHANGIIO RID or GREY WHISKERS w BLACK or BROWN. Price 4.-7. Id and 10. Id. per bottle. ALSO, ROWLAND'S ODONTO, FOR CLEANSING, PRESERVING, and BEAUTI FYING THE TEETH AND GUMS. Price 2. 9d per box. The above Articles are sold by the sole Proprietors, ♦. ROWLAND & SON, 20, HATTON-OARDEN. CHOLERA MORBUS CURED BY MORI SON'S UNIVERSAL MEDICINES ONLY.— Tbe President and the Board of the British College of Health, New-road, King's Cross, London, on referring the British Public to their former statement of the undoubted tureen of the Universal Medicines in stopping the ravages of the Cholera Morbus in the Baltic, as given, verbatim, from Mr. M. Gardner, their general Agent for the County of Durham, (who had supplied several Baltic vessels with the Medicine), beg leave to lay before the Public another letter, received this day from the same gentleman, contain ing a still more corroborative proof of their full efficiency on this devastating scourge : 4 4 To Messrs. Morison, Moat, and Co. " Gentlemen,—Having received a letter Koos Capt. Lang. ley, of the trading vessel Joseph, of this port, who lately arrived at Hull from Riga, I transmit you a copy, which you will feel to be your duty to publish to all the world. " Dear Friend,—Respecting the Universal Medicines of the British College of Health, which you so fortunately provided me with at Sunderland, I have every reason to be lieve, and, indeed, 1 am convinced that they were the mesas of preserving my own life as well as some hundreds more at Riga, a great many of which I was an eye witness to. 4 4' On my first arrival at Riga, I commenced taking the Pills as a preventive, or preparation for the attack, to stay its violence if assailed ; by which means a free passage through the body prevented the infectious air from producing that fatal cramp in the stomach and limbs which has caused the death of thousands. On the 28th of May, however, I was most violently wised with that dreadful disorder, and for the first four hours was In a deplorable state, but, thank God, from the precautions I had used, the noxious air passed through my body, with very slight attacks of the cramp, and a few strong doses of the Universals soon restored me to health. All my men (except one who was too timid to take the Pills with sufficient strength, from the fear of being too violently purged, who died in a few hours), took the Pills night and morning, and were saved. " To satisfy the poor fellow who died I got him some medicine on shore, but it took no effect in the least, as he ceased to exist soon alter, first becoming cold as a lump of ice and of a dark blue colour. I cannot think the Cholera infectious or contagious from the touch, as none of us were Afected from handling the corpse. "' I left Riga on the Bth of June, and got down to Baubles the same day, all well, but on the 10th the mate and a boy were both taken ill with this dreadful disease, and, for six days, were in a distressing state, but with a close and powerful application of the Pills, were restored to full health. "' I am happy to say I have every reason to believe that this Medicine alone is all-sufficient to stop the ravages of this dread evil, but that its powers are best applied at an early stage, or as a preparative. The value of the Medicine was in the highest estima tion at Riga, and great lamentations were made at the scanty supply that could be obtained from me and the rest of the sessels who had supplies from you. Had I had 41100 ilurth snore I could have sold them all. even to the French doctors that were there.' " The whole of the letters that have come to Sunderland from those vessels which bad supplies of the Medicines out, speak with the same raptures of their efficacy. " I remain, Gentlemen, " Your humble servant, "MICHAEL GARDNER." " Bishop Wearmouth, Aug. 1, 1831." ANOTHER UNDOUNTED CURE OF THE CHOLERA IN 'NOLAND. To Mr. Morison the Higeist. Sir,—Peeling assured that my life hu been saved by a ptompt use of the Universal Iletlicines, under a most violent attack of the Cholera Nimbus, I deem it a duty I owe to you and to the public, to lay my ease before you, in the hope that, by your giving this, my testimony, (which I am ready to verily on oath, if required), full publicity, I may be the means of emboldening many to embrace the same certain re medy to that dreadful calamity. On Sunday evening last I was suddenly attacked with a most:violent lax and retching. and at the same time seised with most distressing cramps in all my limbs, and all over my body, with spasms in the chest and back, which filkd me with all the horrors of a certain and agonising death be fore the morning. Struggling, however, through the night, :ny wife, at an early hour on Monday morning, waited on .11r. Moat, the Vice-President of the College, who promptly ltdered an immediate dose of 20 pills, twice or thrice in the O'.ITSC of the day, during which time a thorough cleansing, up and down, removed all danger, and by the Wednesday I was enabled to follow my business in full From the powerful and beneficent effect produced on me ti so short a time, I can hare no hesitation In recommending lourinsatimable 31e: icing as a certain and speedy Cure of 'he Cholera Morbus. _ I am, Sir, your grateful debtor and humble servant, W. H. BARNES. 80 . 7, Deer's-place, Somers Town, London, Aug. 18,1831. The " Vegetable Universal Medicines' arc to be had at the College ; at Mr. Field's, 66, Quadrant ; Mr. Chappell's, Itoyal Exchange; Mr. Walker's, Lamb's Conduit passage. ked Li on3q „, re Aggro's, t3ilbstreet. Limshouse %lr• Bennett's, Covent Garden Market; Mr. Hayden's, Pear-de-lie court, Norton Falgate ; Mr. Hulett's, 147. li-ticlif e Highway ; Messrs. Norbuty's, Brentford ; Mrs. stepping, Clare Market; Messrs. &Imes, Little 8011-alley; ?bliss Venal's. 24. Luossostrest. C.omenerstal.road Mr. lioliwood's, .6, Upper Cheyne-row, Chelsea, and at one Agent's in every principal town in Great Britain, the Islands at litiansey. and Malts; and throughout tho.wbole of the. %itsd States of America. On the motion of Lord TENTERDEN the order of the day for the third reading of the Prescription bill was dis charged, and the bill ordered to be read a third time on Tuesday. On the motion of Lord SUFFIELD a select Committee was appointed on the Labour in Cotton Factories Bill. After some observations from Lord Cawdor, the Lord Chancellor, and Lord Tenterden. the Fees in Common Law Courts Regulation Bill, was read a third time and passed. Lord KING presented petitions from Essex and Halifax In favour of the Reform bill. He also presented a pctidon from the outdwellers of Dora in favour of Reform, and also praying the abolition of the Mice of Lord Warden, as the person holding that high station might very considera bly Influence the electors of that town. The Duke of WELLINGTON did not see why the of fice of Lotd Warden should be put down, as i t had nothing to do with the rights of election . The Earl of FIFE presented a petition from Leith in favour of reform. The Marquis of SALISBURY presented a petition from Falmouth, praying the house not to pass the bill without due securities. Lord GLENGA I.L presented a petition from Tipperary against the reform bilL Though it was his intention to vote against the second reading of this bill, he was a decided frienitto the proper fermentation of the people. He con. ceivetf there was a difference between voting against reform altogether, and against this particular bill ; and he wascon. winced that if a measure, not going to the great length which the present bill did was introduced, it would give general satisfaction. Lord BELHAVEN punted a petition from Ridding. ton In favour of reform The Eul of HADAINGTON would take this opportu. air y of addressing a few words to their lordships. He was vie aware, and had Mfg been aware, of the extent to which the desire of parliamentary reform had gem In Scotland, but the bill now before their lordships related to this pan of the united kingdom. It was the Intention of the noble soil In the course of what he stated last night, to have adverted to the absolute necessity of the apprehension of the principle of reform for Scotland ; but in the cenfitsien of ad&asing their lordships he had forgot to state It s and was sow deli. rous of rectifying that omission. He never had at any time doubts that if parliamentary reform was to be sdop. ted, that its application to Scotland was emeatially necessary. He considered the representation of Scotland as part and parcel of that of the whole united empire, and he was anxious. therefore, to make no encroachment on it. If Scotland had con tinued an independent kingdom and had flourished under the present system, as It had done , it would have been impossible that that system of representation could have lived so long. He considered it, therefore. ne cautery, that the principle of Reform should be applied to Scotland, so as to give the counties a Potted and rational system of popular representation, founded, not as this Bill proposed, but really upon property ; and as to the borougl s, such on alteration should be made as to give the respectable householders in towns the power of voting to send Members to serve in Parliament. Earl CA M PERDOWN rejoiced that this was not the first time that the noble Earl had declared himself favour. able to Scotch Parliamentary Reform. The noble Earl had stated. in the beginning of his address, that this measure had no reference to the Scotch Bill. He (Lord Camperdown) ad mitted, that as to the details of that measure the assertion was right, but the people of Scotland, it should be under ' stood by their Lordships, knew no distinction between English and Scotch deform Bills. They looked to the are now on their lordships' table as deciding the question of Re. form, and if unfortunately their lordsips should refuse to give that bill a second reading, introduced as it bad been into the House, that rejection would in Scotland be received with universal alarm and dismay. When the Scotch Re. form Bill came before their lordships' attention, be should be happy to meet his noble friend's argument. But he would take that opportunity of alluding to what had fallen on a previous evening front a noble duke opposite. That' noble duke had stated, and most truly, that no country had flourished more than Scotland. But U its prosperity went to defend its representation, it would go to the extreme point, and prove that no representation at all was in point of i - set the best form of Government. The prosperity of Scotland, however, was owing to very different causes. She had flourished in spite of rqwesentadon, by the union. The Duke of WELLINGTON said it was irregular to advert to what he had stated on a previous occasion. He would say, however, that he had net on that occasion spud. cd to the represent ation of Scotland. What be said was, that that country was prospesous, and had been well govern. ed. He considered it as under the Government of Great Britain, and that like every other part of his Majesty's dominions, it had advanced In prosperity, and, perhaps, advanced farther than any other part. (Hear.) He gave, however, no opinion as to the representation, whether it should be reformed or not. What he did mate, in a subs.- queue part of the speech alluded to, was that in considering what should be the state of represenuirian of the people its the House of Commons, their Lordships ought to consider what sort of Government the country had possessed, and' that the change proposed for Scotland should be discussed at the same time as the measure which applied to England. Lord BELHAVEN was astonished to hear the remark of the noble rail on the cross ber.ch, that while he would give his support to a bill of reform based on property for Scot. land, he would not give his vote for the second reading of the English bill. He (Lued Belhaven) in supporting the bill, gave his vote in approbation of the trinciple of reform which it embraced, and if his noble trend (Earl 'bidding. tot) could shew him, when the bill went into Committee, the bill was no: based on property, he would vote against the third reading. Earl HA 1)1)1 NO ION had not talked of the English, but the Scotch bill. The Esrl of ROSES EERY corroborated tht statements made by the Earl of Cunperdown relative to the calm of the prosperity of Scotland under us misguveranent. It had flourished in consequence of its representation being blended with the me popular representation of England. The Duke (ARGYLL presented ape Mon from Comp. bletown in favour of the Reform Bill. The Marquis of LONDON DEMO' presented a petition from the nobility. clergy, merchants, bankers, and others, resident In Belfast, praying their lordships not to pass Use reform bin into a law. l'ne noble marquis was perfectly aware of the inconvenlence attending Mailing speech e s 1 1 , presenting petitions ; but when so numb hall been said upon the presenting of pctltlons front Raitland by other noble lends, he thought he might be perinitted to make a few observations in presenirg this petition with respect to the:feelings of the pole of Ireland. Tilere was so much of history attached to the town of Belfast, with respect to its political madmen*, that when their lordships heard this pc deism, and when they beard what he (the noble marquis) bad to state with respect to the meeting as which this petition wee proposed—a meeting called, not for the purpose of get. ting up this petition, but of 'ening up &pakten favourable to the Reform Bill. t h e i r l or d s hips w ould And there was no longer any ground fur any of them to untertaln the notion that there was not a considerable degr ion on this important subject, and that the general of the peo ple was not now ve r y diff eren t to what was before. Bel fast was the third town hi Ireland in Mot of importance, and It was surrounded by the counties et Down, Antrim, and Loadoodurry ; and the petition spoke the feelings of consperedeely all the peruses throughout shoes dues counties, as well ea those inhabiting Belfast. Agr -ftt portion of Bel fast belonged to a noble marquis sod noble lord—(hear, hear). During the last goveenment these two noble lords were the main supporters of Tory principles; bet as changes would take place occasionally amongst the greatest, they had now become conv erts to different principles. No doubt they had used their utmost rang to get the meeting at tended by persons who would be favourable to getting oil a petition praying the house to pose the Bill; but still, though the meeting had been snitennind by the we reign of the town of Belfast, Sir Stephso Mayne, a near re lative to the noble marquis to whom be had alluded, and not withstanding the influence of that Noble 31arquis, and the other Noble Lords, the petition agreed to at that meeting was the one he hail now the honour us Assent, and which earnestly prayed their Lordships not to pees the bill. He had the happiness to feel that he pommeled the good opinion of a great portion of the people of Bakst as well as of the North of Ireland. Not eh intending the aerknesious feeling that existed towards hint in the minds et part of his Majes ty's Ciovernment, and in conenpeonseof peensesing that good opinion and confidence, the poloondig et this petition had been entrusted to him, and Whoa pest *Mean in comply ing with the request of the petitioners. The petition having been read at The Marquis of LON DON DB RR ien /s di ald it was signed by upwards of 4,000 persons. which suilleiently proved that a considerable re.actton had taken place. Berl GOSFORD said he had beard the petition. and notwithstanding what it stated, be would declare that it did not speak the sentiments of the wealth and respectability of the town of Belfast. Lord TE311111:110RE stated that the feeling iu Bel fast upon the subject of Reform was now as strong as ever it was. The Noble Marquis bad alluded to • Noble relation of his, (the Marquis of Donnouglimore,) connected with the town of Belfast, and be really thought the Noble Marquis should have given notice of his intention to charge the Noble Marquis with change of his political opinns. The Marquis of LONDONDERR Y.—l wrote to him this morning. Lord TEM PLEMORB said he was convinced, not withstanding all he had heard, that a more honourable and straiglet.forward man than his Doha* relation did not exist. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY did not deny that want' in Belfast were favourable to le etorm. but he saw • wide difference between moderate Reform and the Reform In t h e BUI before that House. The noble Marquis then al luded to a letter which he bad received from &iatd against a petition presented by an illustrious duke from that dip—. We hid since discovered that the whole of his Miter was a misrepresentation. (Hear.) He bad nothing to allege against the petition. The Duke of SUSSEX was happy to Mar the noble mar. guts bad no cause to impugn the petition which his Royal Highness presented. It was placed in his bends by perms Incapable of practising any Imposition. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY mid be should have written to Bristol to ascertain the correctness of the information, but the time was too short for that purpose. Lord ELDON adverted to the observations made upon Reform In Scotland and Ireland, and expressed an opinion that those topics should not precede the consideration of the important measure then before the Home. Earl GREY presented petitions from Staines, Sevenoaks, Kendal, and the perish of St. Giles, London, praying their Lordahips to pass the Reform Bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he had eleven pod. riots to present. They were signed by a OWININISS and respectable body of his Majesty's subjects, ad maim he the passing of the Reform Hill. The first was from Had. &Wield, signed by 9,000; one from St. Odes, Camberwell, signed in a few hours by 1,1100 persons. The able mid learned lord then presented petitions to the same AM MN the Parish of St. Clement's Mae, Charley, and shoe plasm Toe Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a from the merchants and shipowners of itothsay, in re li t of But,, in favour of Reform. Lard DACRE presented a petition to the same aid from limeades= On the motion of Lord WHARNCLIFFE, the house agreed to the amendments in the Truck System BilL The Public Works in Ireland BiU pawed through a com mittee. Third reading on Monday. Keenan init. The Earl of FALMOUTH rose on the order of the day for continuation of the debate on the Referee Bill, and ea t teased a feeling of diffidence when approaching the eubjeSt. lie was anxious to state his opinion on that momentous bill. He had heard the speech of a noble earl on the Ministerial side of the House, and could only say he believed that noble e had not done much to induce their lordships to allow the bill to go to a second reading. He collected irons the ergo ments he had heard that the reformers expected the bill 'scold lead to other changes, and that this universal panacea would not succeed. Another noble earl had sal l the change was necetsary, and that thlnp were liable to change. The noble lords in that House must change because they were gniwing old. That might all be true, and yet it did not fol low that wizen the change came, they went to be put in eche did( A. The noble Earl (Radnor) had said on one occasion that he was a radical reformer, and that nothing but vote by ballot would satisfy him. That noble had also written a letter to Mr. Whittle, the publisher of a newspaper at Blanchester. in which ha wipeout' great regret that Gobbet' was not in Parliamirot and added, that it was hi s in te n t i on t o b r i ng hi m i n f ar D own-' ton. In that instance the noble earl had at least been I ready to act apon the existing system of representation t but upon the whole he could say he had never heard a speech in l i th.t hour which gave more ample proof of oratorical errs. The arguments used by the noble earl were those which young politicians might resort to, but they meld have DO weight with the calm redening friends and supporters of the constitution. l'he noble earl proceeded to say, that however brilliant the language of noble lards opposite might he on the subject of the Reform Bill, and however much that language tended to veil the calamities which would follow that bill, sooner or later the fallacy of their theory would be discovered. If these noble lords wanted a zepublic, int/ma's name let them say so. (Hear, hear,) The noble earl then alluded to the republic of America, the Congress of which could only be chosen by three-Munk of the federal States thereby uniting to a republic it pure democracy. He then directed the attention of their lordships to an article entitled l'rospeets of lieJoris in Europe, published in the North American Reticle, in which Lord John Russell was repre sented as working the question of Reform as one In the rule of three. The writer wait on to say, that the Reformer. would never agree to the rule of three system of the Noble Lord, which war settled on geographical principles Indy. The Noble Earl at great length read extracts from the ankle in question, lit support of his view of the awe, costsoding that the opinion), of the writer, as as Americas, wise entitled to the serious attention of Noble Lords. One of the striking peculiarities of the Bridal) coustitu t ion was, that it was generaL The present SM. however, laid the axe at the root of the tree of general tepresentation ; the County Members multi in. future be entirely deprived of it. (Near) V. tin re any thing so inviting in the government of France, he would ask. tt induce the noble earl and his colloszues opposite. to fonn a mcdel from it. Tile noble earl had said that the pre. sent measure fru in accordance with the pirliamentsry usage of ancient times. Where the noble earl learnt that doctrine, he (Part Falmouth) was utterly at a loss to guess. Oh, says the noble earl, the representation of the country was a trust ; he would ask if advowrons in the chutch, which were on the same principle maters of trust, could he disposed of consistently wkh justice and equity ? Thu noble earl had said that his measure was the result of serious de liberation. but the situation of public affairs consequent upon the advice given to his Majesty to exercise his just preroga tive to dissolve the parliament was the most unfavourable for calm deliberation that he could imagine. He denied that the cry of reform existed to ti e twentieth pan of the extent which the satsumas ist• the bill represented. He then pro ceeded to argue slat exclusion of the people fuss the Gm offices In the state was net a vice of tbe present system ; and instanced the noble and learned lord near him ( rased Eldon). and the noble and learned lord on the woolsack ; u well as many respected ornaments of the bench of bishops. The noble earl and his colleagues in office were trifling with the precious Constitution handed down to them. With all its imperfections, would any noble lord get up in his place, and say that any other country in the world, at any period, ever existed, which in any de me resembled it in power and prosperity ? (Hear, hem.) The noble earl, he beli eve d, i n t h e speec h h e made, had made no such a statement. In reference to the right re. verend prelates opp site, if any of them were found to vote for the second reading of the bill, he believed that decision was to be attributed to an erroneous view of the question, rather than from any with to wheat the Mad. entices of the country. He begged them to call to mind the bright example of the bench of bishops in the time of James the Second, who kept the people in awe by their firmness. He should not detain their lordships by go. log into the details of the measure brought forward by the noble earl, all he hoped for was, that the results of that measure might not bring the noble earl down with sorrow to the grave. Noble lords were part of the people, and bY S E: ving they were an, they would throw out this bill. him (earl Falmouth) tbs evils of the church and state, and he would agree to a measure for tbefr reform; sbew him a bill that would not endanger the settled institutions of the coun. try and be would support it. He could not, however, give his support to the present bUI, without becoming an agent in the destruction of the constitution of the country-- (hear). The noble earl in the course of his speech, was at times in. audible below the bar. &al ROSRBERRY stated that he deemed it necessary to say a few words on the line of conduct he was to pursue in reference to the bill before their Lordships, viz. to vote for the second reading. (Heat) He never was a Radical reformer, but he must sat that the present specific measure satisfied him that the necessities sod exigencies of the country required ft. (Hear.) It was necessary that reform should be introduced in a clear, satis factory, and comprehensive form. The advisers of the crown would not have acted justly by the crews, or by .themselves and the people of this country, if they had not adopted the resolution to dissolve the last parliament. He had every respect for the noble duke opposite, and his late colleagues in the goverment ; but be was bound to say, that to them was the present mate of things to be attributed. He could assure their Lordships he was nu blind supporter of the present measure from any principle of attachment to its proposers ; he should show if the bill ever nuns Into Committee, that he should weigh all Its details without se. gard to any one. (Hear.) He confessed then were parts in the bill which would have been better had they been omitted; but it was bettor they should remain than that the bill should be withdrawn. There wore other parts of the bill susceptible of improvement in the Committee, to see whether it could not be so Improved as to remove the objections now made to it by some of their Lordships. But he would say, that if Ministers had not proposed a measure for the aboli tion of nomination boroughs—for the extension of the elec tive franchise, and for conferring representation on the peo teressidof Scotland, they would have deceived the people, and their discontent by proposing a measure t h at could not give satisfaction, and that could not be pennaneat. (Hear, bear.) The objections to the bill might be re duced to two : the list, that it was fraught with danger ; the second, that It was unnecessary. The danger appre hended was, that it would introduce too large a democratic lime into the other House of Parliament, and overthrow ells bedaubs= ef the country necessary to the security s af e rreety. (Hear.) He denied it would produce any It was perfectly true it would take from same =i the power they have of nominating otanbure of*, nikerHenesof Parliament; but it would ex- tied last jam Wisest et which was now plied or oveuiellowei by dis If be thought the inemenrs would wakes the just Mom* of the aristocracy. he wadi be the last nett to sweet it t but he was con. viand the advocacy wield pie mute ha legitimate and re cognised Meow thee they were new Inaba to exercise in a manger iliatigninble and odious to the people. (Hear.)—' If be Ameba the measure would convert the Lower Hones ban new &legatos to be directed by the breath of melee denser, he would not support it ; but he thought there was nothing in the provisions of this bill, noe in their expaimos of popular elections, to prove that those returned to Parliament under the bill must be mere de legates. (Hein) He did not think it was quite right for those who argued against the abolition of nomination boroughs to condemn the bill for giving a system of re presentation which they said would be delegation—for who were those now returned for nomination boroughs t K Hear hear.) Were they not the delegates of those by whom thej were appointed, with this additional objection that they were not appointed for any public object, but for the pe , culler interest of the person making the nomination. (Hear, hear.) Another objection made to it was, that it would paralyse the power of Government. He thought It would Rather disem barrass the Government, by setting it free from a species of power they were not able to resist. (Hear, hear.) Anoint objection was, that it was unoe °essay. He was aurprised to hear that objection, when tbp fact must be notorious that it was utterly impossible to conduct the late Government, in eunNequmce of their refusal to admit of any reform. It might now be said some reform was nactssary, but that was not said when the noble duke withdrew from the Government rather than con mut to any reform. Those who now say that some return, was necessary, but not this Bill, before they refused the se cond reading of the Bill should ascertain and produce that other plan of reform which they were willing to substitute, otherwise the public would think that no return was seri ously intended, that not reform but delusion was contem plated, and they would ask what be asked, what did their lordships really mean ? if they refused to go into Cont. mittee where improvements in the Bill might be made-- whatever opinion might be entertained in that house—then would be but one opinion amongst the people, either that it was meant to do nothing, or that it was meant to delude the country. No one would deny that the house bad the power to negative the Bill, and no one could more willingly support every privilege of their Lordships' House, which he con ceived were given for the security of the throne, and the preservation of peace and order and the best interests of the country. (Hear.) But he felt some doubt whether they would not be travelling out of the course the Constitution had assigned them, by refusing the second reading of the bill. (Hear.) It Abe a bill recommended by a united Cabinet, composed of men who formerly entertained differ ent opinions on the question, but were now united from being convinced Oka necessity by irrefragibie proof 3 it was agreed to by a vast majority of the othrr house of Parliameat. and it met with a support throughout the kingdom beyond what any ether public measure had ever known. ( Hear) I t w as saM a esneiderabie dump bad taken place in the opinions of the people; but where was the amidst co P (Hear.) By far the greater number of petitions were net only in favour of reform, but in favour of this bill. (Hear, hear.) And by far the greater number of petitions pees: rated on the other Me were net against the bill, but to take the sulikct nit Missideration with calmness and earnestness. In iris opi nion. though it was not out of the legal right of the I -,, yet it was out of th e i r coustitutional province , tha t '. ev should be the only collective set of persons in the cows! 11 m tithe the progress the general principle, which had r; vett y the almost unanimous assent of the nation. (ilea*. hear.) — The arguments which had been used against the bill were ember lamentations at its necessity than any proof the neees. sky did not exist, Of that the remedy was not appropriate. If the bill OM rejected, as at first proposed. or if they decided, as more courteous, that it should be read a second time this day , months. he could not persuade himself hut eVere one Of then lordships mum in his heart believe that the substance of the inemure must ere long be passed by parliament; but it Mold not then give Hutt contest, and might not cause tiio emeation of agitation, and prevention of tumult, whits would now be its immediate beneficial effects. A noble sodas the first night proposed, that any measure of tics hid should be postponed for two years, and added—di it wadi sot suit his Majesty's ministers, because they were askew of producing agitation. Were any of their 1 irJ - Mph so blind as to suppose that postponement of reform weld prevent agitation ? (Great cheering.) It was oat fair that those who were anxious to pass the measure, and put an sod to the queetion, should be accused of a desire to keep alive agitation. Their lordships had more than once been ensphatically called oo to do their duty. Fur himself he re sponded to that call—it became them deeply to retied on what that din was.Cosild it be theirduty when a measure was tveomftt by the crown and a united ministry when it was supported by a larg e majority of the House of Commons and by all the people. to refuse to look into its details ? (bear, hear, hear.) Could it be their duty as was proposed, to stigmatise and crush a measure, which the most infiuen. tial of its opponents admitted must soon be entertained in principle No(lsear, bear.) lie could not think that was the duty of the boom. If they could not think favourably of the mosidens of the biU, still he thought it was their duty Ostrom a measure se reammameded and supported, so far to adopt Its prindpie, as to enter es the consideration of its rdisa with impartiality and deliberation, to see whether g i g a not be made a ineassre that could be approved of be a majority of that hear). • The Earl of CARNAIIVON said they bad now heard the gronads on which his Majesty's Ministers recommended a measure which with the exception of the two Univer sities erected a change in the whole representation of the I elmou7•••••(Hear.)—A change which it was now admitted Mae a sew constitution.—(Bar.) He never knew a Bill .imella a turnpike Bill—laid on the table without a ruse. ono of the magical evil it was to remedy, and the prat i. sal geed it was to effect • but no ilinister bad giv e n a deamilmien of the practical effect to be remedied, nor of the peasdad benefit to be derived from this great His Noble Friend, who had just sat down, cued Ot alli trm to decide whether this plan of &loon could be so changed as to make it consistent with their duty to offer it to the people of England.—World it not be delusion of the people to admit the principle of the Bill, when it was meant so to c'sange it that disappointment must be the eo3sequence. The present utinisters, when out of power, had been all their lives fighting against each other on the question; but when brought into the sante cabinet, they all united in its support in a most wonderful manner. (Hear.) Of all his Majesty's ministers he could only speak with great respect ; of those whit schism he had ew holou. of being acquainted: lie was convinced more honourable men did not exist. (Hear, hear.) Or the noble earl at the head of the Government he must only say, that he it ust still look up to hint. as he had dim.: through hit. tie, as possessed not only of the most spleitd il talents. but of the most splendid virtues. (lieer. hear.) But with respect to the measure they had produced, he J.E:red tram menus so completely, that he could nut in words express how a :tingly be felt, both on the measure and the manner in which •t wu attempted to force it on the country. ( Hear, ILA%) The Noble Lord bail put in the questioi. of the sec old r sil ls( on the wand of civility, because •he hill was tread.. Ileadelli by the Crown and by Ministers, and p eased by toe Rouse of Commons; but were they out of civility to delude the ssestry by appearing to give assent to a plan, which, it' adepted. must lead to Vie subversion (tithe institutions of the ry ? (Hear, he.r, hear.) If the people were in e • Ate a t—lf the rjec ion or the toll would p.o.tuce maw diseadataeloo—the dankr would be trebled it tuey mead from fear, and incurod the contempt of the people. (ms, hear.) He would not say that Mitaisters had us.sa in that Howse the language of intintidation ; but except the Mate of the public mind. they h.d not offered any reason fur dlo psetest *lmage ever proposed to pirlianieni. ( Hear ) If the tamptage ofia dmid a tiun were hull, it should b. met 11 the &mess that distinguished Nlr. Pitt sod George 111. at tits ties tithe Pros* revolution ; and if moisten ware delie.e .1 k atallese t he called upon the house to supply tine attic . Re was pasrsady impartial on the que.tiJn, as ne could nut inlinence a eingb vote in a single borough in all England.— ii s ios ess r,) There bed, in their lordships' memory, ben num. new constitution* in Europe ; they bad moo Site cre stless of toonorrow's flame. (Hear.) Toe year before last lON ache trainers of the present ball declared that there was such as apathy on the question of reform, that he should not will totroduce it. lie agreed with the usable earl Lest night, ON ivory thing sublunary changed ; but he was too gouty to tab such a !cap as was proposed by the present Mil.— (A laugh.) His noble friend asked abet nostrum they had to propose in lieu of this piece of quackery ? Instead of re- Oommending their own measure on its owe merits, it it bad any, they idled on its opponents us produce a better. They earesed that the opponents of their new eons itutiun should Mil be ptepa e with a new constitution of his own, and I Vet all she. d be precisely the same. Suppose his uuble hsend had got a mew cook, and be invited ail iii. !nerds to dinner, sod asked their opinion of the performance of the artist. 1 hey wisest /ay thought, and said no darn was fit to be es en. Wadi hle mile friend say to them, you all find fault with 2twelt s gm down to the kitchen and try your hand your. ves. Waal they have a right to say, '• Hive us pus. session of the kitchen." A Secretary to S ate tied emit mat it wee too great a measure fur one dehate—should it nut have °mused to hint, that it was too large a measure tsar one Bill. If he thought the present Mil would benefit the • people, there was no sacrifice tie was nut ready to snake fur the aitainnient of that object. He considered at full of dams ger—iui supporters appeared to wish to ride in the wirlwind, and be directed by the storm. (Laughter.) E ls e tempest which now raged around them was the creation of their own etm:rivamt. (Hess.) He did not say of evil intentions ; but they had acted with predpitatiou. They had talents quite eallident to overturn any country. Oa, that they had a few grans of common sense and good discretion.— He had anxiously waited to bear the reason which tailored the Ministers to bring forward such a Bin a. the peseta, which at one blow alterid the whole constitution ; but rea sons for that cousie be had beard none.—( Hear, hear), the Noble Marquis (Lansdowse) bad promised to reset, the speech, the luminous speech, of a Noble Earl ( Hammett.)). but bad not kept his promise; he had only talked of toe Ministers having embarked in a perilous voyage—and that he bad joined them; but whether when they were '• halt s:as over," was not stated...,(llear, and a laugh.) And those who would not embark in so milieus a voyage were denounced as timid mariners. The Ministers had, indeed, boldly embarked, Sir they had trusted themselves in a crazy Admiralty barge, that had previously capsized them. That was ominous enough ; it might have been imagined that they would be more wary; but not only had they boldly emostk.d in so fragile a vessel—they vowed they wculd clog to it come what might. That was, indeed, told, but what was it that clung to the vessel ? Was it the stanched of the coustitution? Oh, no ; they clung like barnaces, which impeded, and not accelerated the progress—(loua cheers aid laughter). They made the vessel lag bellind diet before lied proudly steered its course, and gone before the breeze. This bill, it was avowed, bad i opulatien our its bas r sts ; and yet its framers said they adhered to the principles ut Mt constitution. Now, he took the liberty 0 1 say i ng , that poi.ulatiuu never bad bee; the basis of representation, and the criterion by which the constitution settled the portion that the mus of the people ought to bare in the goveninte:tt of the country. But the basis of this Lill was pupils'', 1., and that basis he hesitated not to say must lead to revel:,. non. (Hear.) It we, a basis that was most covering to tie mimics of monarchy. The Ministers, in truth, had Ida themselves to the spirit of discord; and on the condi• ton mat was usually described as the terms of such sales— that use spirit was to be their slave for ever. But by tre side, ...41 they not Mae themselves the diet% of that trfluet.ee wt.s rt they imagined they had purdroul?As to d I bill tie rep a e . it was bad in principle; it took fur its bases that wows had never existed ; therefore, it was Imams to go icto Crostini ..., with it, foe the evil of it was that whieto L., ii,.:.. mittee could cure. First, it destioyed veinal, ourriugt•s__ although the author of the pres_or bill hid dee..0.... that toe existence of Li:ought' was requi.ite to ern. .t. the govatiment of the country. For that purpos e to ....... solutely requisite that the ministers 'boa.. leave at . A I" command a certain diem of intiudice ; u.hers iw, If i! ei happened to be unpopular, how were they Its Nct ••:... N. I. mutat ? They were to rely on what as, tin sue.. Hi_ e...s .c e, li ts as lin ad an n, of th of I. id •