Star. — London, England, 1823-04-18 00:00:00

tended that no man could honestly feel alarm at the consequences of carrying this measure. There was no longer a fear of a Catholic league of Sovereigns. That triumvirate, the Pope, the Devil, and the Pre tender, had no longer any terrors—(A laugh).— The Pope, he believed, was now as harmless as any old Lady in Christendom ! laugh). There was one Honourable Baronet (the Member for Sorperset shire) who seemed, indeed, to have a fear of the Je suits of Ireland. Ile might as well wish for a re. newal of the laws against witchcraft ; for they had heard lately of three worsen trying to 'draw blood from another, to trate away her charm, as they termed it—and this was in Somersetshire too! (Loud laughter.)—Did the Right Honourable Member far Oxford fear anything from the ironer of the Pope? lie was sure that tile Right Honourable Gentleman's mind was too enlightened; and it he could see the sentiments" of his soul, he knew that he could not en tertain tht slightest alarm upon that ground. He would be willing to put it to him upon his honour, and leave the question to be decided by his answer. It; then, there was no danger in granting these con cessions, was there not danger in leaving the people of Ireland in such a situation as that in width they were now placed ? After having been taught the extent' of their oppressions and their wrongs by the, glowing colours in which they had been hell up to them by the Right Honourable Gentleman, he now came forward to undeceive them, and to tell them that the Government would not relax one iota of the system of oppression which had been so long exer cised. England could never be a prosperous country while Ireland was divided and miserable. With this system Ireland could not be otherwise. They had now a Lord Lieutenant who was disposed, if he had the power, to protect the Catholics, andto administer equal laws, and he was a much more rare bird than a black swan; and as for the Attorney-General, he was pretty generally considered, in the Cabinet, as a black sheep. Their efforts had not been supported, when directed to remedy these abuses; and they could not be effectual under such a divided Govern. ment. What, then, was to be thought of a Cabinet who thus compromised all public dangers, and ques tions of great public importance, in order to retain place? The evils of Leland might go on—the ba lance of power in Europe might be destroyed—but arrangements must be made for keeping the seats which they had secured. He had the satisfaction of believing that there was in this country a spirit which was independent of, and superior to, its errors of Go vernment, whether fundamental or administrative, and by which it would eventually struggle through all its difficulties. Holding this opinion, he should now protest against the annually repeated farce which was to be played off that night, and not be come a party to it, The Honourable Baronet then read an extract from a speech which was delivered by Mr. Plunkett in 1813, upon the Catholic question, condemning the divisions which existed in the Cabi net at that time with regard to it. He would offer that in conclusion to the House; for it was his inten tion not to wait the discussion of the question, but to leave the House, disapproving as he did of the tem porising and hollow manner in which it was brought forward—(He concluded amidst loud cheering from the Opposition). Lord NUGENT said, that hots ever he might agree in some of the sentimests expressed by his Honour able Friend, he had Lard with the greatest surprise what bad fallen front him at the conclusion of his speech. He should certainly not follow the example of abandoning the Catholics because Ministers did not honestly support the cause. Mr. Secretary CANNING rose, and said, that as he wished to contradict what had fallen from the Honourable Baronet in toto, he wished to do so simply and at once—( Cries of" Go on—go on I" Lord NUGENT proceeded after the calls on Mr. Canning had subsided. He did, not wish to stand between the Right Honourable Gentleman and the Honse, but he was anxious to take the earliest oppor tunity of refusing his concurrence in what he con ceived to be so highly injurious to the cause which he had always advocated. So long as it was brought on,, he was .determined to give it what feeble sup port was in his power, . Mr. Secretary CANNING craved pardon of the Noble Lord and the House for having interrupted him in his observations; but he was anxious to pot forward his unqualified contradiction of the charges which bad been made against hint. He understood the Hon. Baronet to have said that he (Mr. Canning) bad held out that the Catholic cause was hopeless. He had said no such thing; he thought no such thing. —He thought it hopeless, indeed, to expect the fOrming of an Administration to agree upon this measure, and also upon the measures necessary to carry on the public business. From this, his opi nion, some might have erroneously supposed he had stated the cause to be altogether hopeless. He be lieved the question would make its syli) progressively sinless Government united against it. kle feared, in deed, that the question had almost received its death blow from the secession which had been threatened from the opposite side ; but in that case the blame lay upon the seceders. He had done his best to pro mote the cause whether he was in or out of office. He had had the satisfaction of proposing a Resolu tion on the subject, , vhich fur the first time had been carried in that House. Last year he had brought forward and advocated a partial question on the sub iect, which had actually passed that House. Under these circumstances he did not despair of the ques tion, if it were fairly supported. There seas no man in that House, whatever might be his politics, to whom he would not give his support op this ques tion, thus differing from the sentiments of the Hon. Baronet. The acclamations which had followed the speech of the Hon. Baronet had certainly, in his opi nion, diminished the ch race of success; and although he would vote for the expected motion of his Right Hon. Friend, lie would almost advise him not to • bring it forward, Mr. 'TIERNEY assured the House he was no party to any such a compact of secession as had been hinted at by the Right lion. Secretary. Let who wquld being forward the question he would support it. No thing. should everind uce bun to swerve from support ing a-ssieasure whiqh he thought essential to the itr teiest ot. the country:. In ,the,generil reasoning of the Hon. Baronet. he , perfectly agreed.; and history and posterity would decide who it was that had destroyed the hopes of the Catholics. He thought it was a 77r. • mockery to go on.year aftef yiNkr acrAfetting a cattse eldnpitted* to be hopeless. His iniiiresiott watAliei same as that of the Hon. Baronet; with respect to the language held some time since by the Right Hon: Gentleman. He certainly understood him to say that tie cause would he hopeless until an Adminis tration should be bound entirely friendly to the ques tion. He (Mr. T.) thought it never could be carried unless by such a Government. The present was nut a new question ; it Was familiar to the House ever since the year 1805, when it was brought forward by Mr. Fox. Was there, he would ask, any chance of its succeeding in another place, witliont Govern ment support ? How stood the Catholic Question when the [tight Hon. Gentleman brought forward his partial measure? A new reign had commenced. He wished to say nothing.at all disrespectful to the memory of out late revered Sovereign, but it was' known that there was such a bias in his mind against this question, that it was understood he would exer cise his prerogative, and refuse the Royal Assent to any measure oil the subject which might be presented to him by both [louses of Parliament. TWs mote than justified any min in holding office without pledging himself to this question. Now we had a new Sovereign, whose mind was at least open to con viction on the subject, and whose opinions, it was be lieved, were more friendly than adverse to it. The Right Hon. Secretary had long declared his deter mination to support this question ; and no man ad mired more than he (Mr. T.) did the talents of that Right Hon. Gentleman, or more applauded the ex ertion of them in favour of the Catholics. And with regard Co the Attorney-General for Ireland (if indeed, after what had passed, he was still Attorney-General for Ireland)—(a laugh)--unquestionably no man had shewn more zeal upon the subject: but the misfor tune was, that no man had the firmness to hold to the question and to keep out of office ; for on entering office the question was substantially dropped. He had no doubt that, considering the paucity of talent among those who opposed the question, firmness in , principle, on this point, would ensure the question ultimate success. Was there anything in Lord Li- I verpool, or in a cerain great Lawyer, to induce a belief that public ea siderations alone would weigh with them on the question of retaining or abandon ing office? And as for the Right Hon. Secretary himself, did he suppose that they would have received him into office unless they wanted him? Did he suppose that they brought him into the Cabinet from motives of affection ? Indeed something had taken place with regard to these eminent persons, which reminded him of the humble but pastoral language, " So sweetly she bade me adieu, " I thought that sbe bade me return." (A Laugh).—He feared too.there was a knot of Gen tlemen who advocated this question, by their num bers (to say nothing of their eloquence), who had, without stipulation of any kind, given themselves up to the majority of that House. . Had the supporters of the question been firm throughout, he had io doubt that the principle of the measure would have been gained, ere this, and that all which would now remain to be done would be to consider the details. Why, indeed, the Right Honourable Gentleman pro posed bringing on the question this year, he really could not comprehend. He - (Mr. Tierney) had asked him this year, whether there was any, the least, un-• derstanding on the subject, when he entered office? The least hint that there was would hive satisfied him ; but to his (Mr. Tierney's) sorrow and mortifi— cation he found that office was the only substantial thing he had gained upon the occasion. If the Right Honourable Gentleman failed in his motion, the Catholics would see how their interests had been trifled with. He, however, should always vote for the question, and if the Right Honourable Gentleman brought it on, and GOD gave bin (Mr. Tierney) strength to sit out the debate, he world stop to di vide with him, though he really thought the bring ing it on would not do any good. As for the Right Honourable Secietary for the Mime Department, he believed his opposition to the subject to be so steady, so firm, and so manly, that he bad no clOubt he would never compeOrnise his principles. The Go vernment, he was satisfied, was boil?, to the Catho lics. It had no objection to eloquent Men, who advo cated the cause, taking office under it. GOvernment cared not a farthing for their eloquence, so long as they had not the pOwei to decide the question.— Under all the circumstances, be hoped the Right Honourable Gentleman would take a discreet course. He presumed to offer no advice. The Right Hon.l Gentleman him - self must be the best judge. As he had before said, if the question were brOught on, he would support it to the last moment; but if the question were lost, he declared before hand that the odium could not attach to his side of the House.— If, on taking office, the Right Honourable Gentle man had any reason to count upon an accession of votes in another place, he (Mi. Tierney) should he perfectly satisfied. If not, the advantage-already gained was likely to be lost. A 'new Pitiliament might not be so favourable to the Catholins Is the present; and the Right Honourable Gentleman was responsible to those in whose confidence he was, for the failure of their interests. In cuncThsion, be would repeat that, if the question were lost, it would belle cause some Gentlemen were too desirous 'to obtain office. Once more he declared his readiness to sup port the question ; and he begged to know the deter mination of the Right Honourable Gentleman as to bringing it on ? Mr. WYNN luiped the House Would indulge him with a few words in answer to the charge of the Right Honourable Gentleman, that office had been accepted upon a com'petiMise Of this question. Stich a charge came NMI the Right Honourable Gentle man with the very Worst grace. Witbregard, how ever, to the charge itself,:he must obierve, that any union on this subject must have included union upon that of Parliamentary Reform. When he (Mr. Wynn) entered office, he stiputated fbr en attention to the affairs of Ireland, anttparticialarly that impartial.jus- Lice should be'distributed in that country. That sti pulation had been perfoinied. He iaw'rits reason why the acceptance of of fi ce by title 'who supported the ' question - ihbuld he'considere'd is an ihindonment of pt. Thtiie, howeier t who were apt to suspect the *Wyk' of Otheis, •wiresgeherulty a'bie to dnd sbme ;thing in'their OWnnlinds to Indnee the inspicion, :Whether he Was in or out of bake •he should sup !na% the o rticiet. • Mr. lialdise Wed& -k kin %thy be in , tended, upon 'this question to take up his hat and - - 4410.0. • *ire* , IM He had Li therto surPorted the' eman, ,becaust l i e-believed that he' l advocated the cause with Sincestty.. He now thee% rt. the atlair was a perfect trick; or what in familiar languagf- was called a hoMbuF. It was not the' Right in. Gentleman coming down to that House with honied words, and fine sentences, which would convince him of his sincerity. He did not believe the Right Hon. Gentleman to be sincere. He had heard the Right Hon. Gentleman make the very speech alluded to by the Hon. liar onet ; and yet he now saw him sitting on the Treasury Benches, acting with a Government hostile to the question. In the face of the Right Hon. Gentleman, he told him he did not believe him to be sincere. He should not pm himself into the cart with such a set of comedians. He would not lend himself to such a trick. lie had no doubt the Irish Gentlemen who opposed this ques tion opposed it honestly. But the people of Ireland h'ad just cause to complain of this Sessional motion moved by the Right Hon. Gentleman and others of his stamp. He had often been delighted at the elo- t cknence of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and it was with real pain he spoke of him, as he thus found him self compelled to do. Mr. Secretary PEEL said that something had fallen from the Honourable Baronet which rendered it necessary for him to trou'ole the House with a few observations. Ile had insinuated a doubt as to the sincerity of the opposition to this question. He (Mr. Peel) declared that the opposition was as sincere as the advocacy. If the lion. Baronet advocated to leration, he surely would tolerate the difTcrerce of opinion which he met in his adversaries. The opt nions of the Honourable Bat OnCt, as he had expressed them, were the strongest proofs of intolerance. The Honourable Baronet had no right to arrogate to him self an exclusive propriety of opinion. The Hon. Baronet had asked whether he (Mr. ('eel) was appre hensive of the Pretender or the Devil; just as if an answer to that question would furnish the Hon. Ba ronet with the grounds of his opposition—(Hear, hear).—lf his Right Hononrable Friend should press the question, he should persist in giving it his de cided opposition; and would state the grounds of it; but until then let the Honourable Baronet keep to himself his doubts of the sincerity of others. He (Mr. Peel) would rather consent to his eternal exclu sion from office, than consent to the slightest com promise of his opinions on this question—(Cheers). —He had never deviated from principle upon it. He cared not for the opinions of others. Though all the People should be uaanimous in favour of this ques tion, he, so long as he remained unconvinced, should persist in his steady opposition to it—( Cheers). — /Co circumstance had appeared to warrant the Hon. , Baronet's chargeof insincerity; and he must desire the Honourable Baronet to abstain from such charges. When he (Mr. Peel) had entered office, he expressly claimed the privilege of acting as he thought fit on this question. And, in the appointment of the Mar quis Wellesley to the office of Lord Lieutenant, and of his Right Honourable Friend near him (Mr. Wynn) he had found no obstacle to co-operation with a view to the best interests of the community.— He had the honour to hold office in Ireland under three different Lord Lieutenants, and he could con fidently defy any imputation of impartial justice being properly brought against his administration during that period. He had never heard of such an imputation.• He-never could admit that his feelings towards the Catholics of Ireland were ever any other than their warmest friends could de:sire, consistently with the existing laws. He knew his conduct was liable to misconstruction, and that • it had rendered him open to the idle charge of his being the advo tate of a wicked Orange system. He believed, how ever, that the well-informed, the general body of the Roman Catholics, would not bring such an putation against him—(Hear, hear).—He should not have troubled the House had he not fek himself Called upon to do so by a sense of honour in conse quence of the remarks of the Honourable Baronet, and ono or two expressions which had fallen from his Right Honourable Friend. Sir F. BURDETT explained. He did not mean to convey any personal reflection upon the Right Hon: Gentleman. He bad said that his own opinion on the question was so decided, that he would al most take the issue of the debate upon the statetnent of the Right Hon.. Gentleman, as to his sincerely be , hewing danger would arise from the concession of this question. Mr. Secretary PEEL said that the Hon. Baronet had not only said that the apprehension of danger was groundless, but also that those who said they had such an apprehension did not sincerely feel it. Mr. WYNN also explained, and diiclaimed any intention to throw an imputation on his Right Ho- 1 nourible Friend. Mr. BROUGHAM said, that the question was. whether this great subject should be given up now and for ever ?—(Cries of " No, no.")—He was much cheered by this irregular negative—(A laugh). Well, as the question was, whether the Right Hon. Gentletran should bring it forward or not ; and as some Hon. Members had recommended him not to do so, he rose to protest against any such recommenda tion: Agreeing, as he did, in almost all which had falters from his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Tierney), having the -Worst opinion of the conduct of those who had substantially abandoned their duty to the ques tion, instead of pursuing the manly, plain, and intel ligible opposition which was given to it by the Right Hun. Secretary of State for the Home Department, Who - had never taken office to abandon the question substantially and support it only by words: still he would not hive the question kept back. The Right Hon. Secretary of State for the Home Department had opposed the question honestly and heartily. Of him no one could complain. But when the point was, whether the Hon. Secretary for Foreign Affairs should go to India into honourable exile—(Hear, I lear)—nt take office in England, and not submit to his sentence of transportation—( Hear, I lea r)—but be condemned to hard labour in his own country—(cheers and laugh ' ter)—doomed to the disquiet of a divided councit— Sitting with his enemies, and pitied by his friends— (Much cheering)—with his hands chained and tied down on all those lines of operation which his own sentiments and wishes would have led him to adopt —(aratinued chcering)—at thin critical moment, :Olen his fate depended urn Lord Chancellor Eldon, %Id his sentiments upou the- Catholic (Adm... at that Critical sirrioment It she hied , said Ik - the 'Fast night that he would not truckle to a Noble Lord (kola- ._~ stone), had then exhibited a specimen, the inrva ; n , credible specimen, of monstrous truckling let,ilk r urpose of obtaining office, which the * 4 ll4gcbut ote ;* • of - political tergiversation could • M. S:Tretary CANNING here inlerfered, said, " SI-, I T I Ceclare that that is ft:lse Immense confus.ion immediately ensued. C l i ft of Crder, Order ! Chair, Crlair ! were loudly-re* ferated from all sides of the [louse. Mr. BROUGHAM endeavoured to make. hirri ti k; heard ; but he could only utter—" I implore thc Hoth.e As he could not be heard, he histiii turned round, took up his hat from bissr.n, and wa s .' pt oceeding towards the door to quit the I-I,aehe. r a ,44 Menthe; s laid hold of him, and prevented him fro* . quitting the House; Mr. Boo:Jot:am theicupoo. k e sumed his seat. The SPEAIiEII called upon the Right non. St. cretary to retract the expression.. Mt. Sect ct y CANNING sr,id that - he had nn obr jection to alter thi word, but ro consideration- 0 # earth should induce biro to retract the sentiment. The SPEAKER . tl,en said; that the duty- wki devolved upon him would admit of no enu ttges . mice. Having had no• time for considetatiot ki t must call upon the House to wist him.—lt was cif: for him to remind the House of.the course proper t be taken in such a case as the present. He helicra 4 i, it was well known that such an expiession•as had.b es ,. used must be recalled without any qii:ditication.: Mr. Secretary CANNING said he'should be eimi to fail under the displeasure of the House. Wilde submit with' resignation to any censer, italiikai ti, flict upon him, but he thought ha had a nee* use the expression. The SPEAKER said he must then implore * support of the !louse substantially and effectively.. The CHANCELLOR of the FACHEQUEItai it was impossible to entertain a doubt as to the pow . priety of the suggestion which had 'alien from thir. Chair. There could also be no doubt that, with No faience to the Ordets of the House, the langnagei s i question was disorderly. At the same time, he mita a-lt the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, speak,. ing as one Gentleman would to another—v:4 m q_, whether the language which fell from him was highly irritating . The Honourable and Is Gentleman was in the habit of speaking in that with great eloquence, and with a strength of pression peculiar to him-elf Had such terms atm& been applied to his Right Honourable Friend, tert*, of the severest repro ich, not merely addressed told* as a Minister, for in that character he tt everything, but addressed to him, as it weft pp % 'ottani, he feared he should, at the moinentOopme expressed his own sentiments in language' noel* measured. The Honourable and Learned Gentlemid l would fat feit nothing in character as a man, or asa,, l Member of that House, if he were to retrace unless; gunge which had called forth the expression. thought the Honoulable • and Learned Gentleman. never could have meant to convey a personal impu tation. They were ail liable to irritable feelings; and under the influence of which, intemperate lot gunge would escape from the most guarded of thee. The SPEAKER said, that the observations tide Chancellor of the Exchequer led him to fear dim some part of the difficulty was occasioned by hiaa-. No, no!)—It Was suggested, that the languageide Honourable and Learned Gentleman appli - Right Honourable Secretary, was no. onl: to his public conduct, but had a.nreaoitig offensive. in such - duty to interfere ; a, so, had he imagined tion. He now cash Learned Gentlemar tended the words to Mr. BROUGH/C Mr. TI E RNEY rose Chair, that when the r the language of the be personally offensi , _ the words be taken down explanation of there. thing like debate if Right Hon. Secretary middle of a sentence, much the conclusion member of it. 'ft. Learned Gentleman timely and proper ir qien to give it, was, The expression of been se-affirmed. He Hon. Secretary that imputation upon his the expression he had the explanation of • The SPEAKER Hon. Sect etary to . lion, but not the sent bring about that pear in a declaration and Learned Gentleman vial conduct of the Mr. Secretary CA the decision of the F . igiectfully, but he , expression he had ask Lord A RCHIB.O the present case he trusted the Howe ahought there must this case, should it there were such abum Mr. liA NKES said• formed its duty, by Tutor of the ordets making use of the expression Get of disorder. He • Secretary had not might have done . The Honourable Mr " That the Right Ii Henry Brougham, of the Serjeant at A Mr. Serjeant ONS . • Mr. C. W. WYNN Learned Gentleman loot concluded his LWarrantcd 'in interrul pert the Motion of not perceive any real nation. He thought ." , lion. Ir; icad was not yotiE Alasembit MA- Met ' W. jhouh. 13E1 :ou perso Ci ,ham Nwr*• beer )aside rat tot r Ern 4 . 017' ...11 ' he was P " ffi of monstrous true f t ilk g office, which thew g iro -hittotti •• • andlieolle. 4 i .sat ion could furnish_.:. .. ..,,. 11t4AfiutPI ANN'S° here imerfeied. *ai r , : o declare that that is jhiser :, :lm ,; unbeConin. e l!_ . ;.ion immediately ensoed. C l ip % ; House seh tel l a Mr. C. W. Chair, Glair! were lonely-ma r • in 4 P ei.°l/11 _.s !es of the [louse. . ... he saw An ow endeavoured to make. hiossaii; to demand a ild only utter—" I impl ore thk• ma tch Mr. Almor"aft akouh AB El could not be heard, 1;e histiii up his hat from his sein, and era s . ) Wed a the door to quit the Hello.. I'4s ... c°l7l th m er he hi of him, and prevented him fru, - whe he thoug e; Mr. lino:rot:au theicupoo. kl e ""e• factory, and i wn Orders, 1 the House svii called upon the Right Hon. Se. " cached f ~ tach from ~ he expression. A NNING sr.id that'he had nn o b o Mr. NVIL W 2 e word, but too consideration- rop experien ce -bsi c vet he e biro to retract the sentiment. • —r)n i t ' .flom . then said; that the duty- whiril4 • ) him would adfnit of no enus tner . . ixarned Men d no• time for considetatiort, Is e - • orst be bdund House to assibt him.—lt was tit: .. jities _ ba it 1 the House of. th e course proper to member woo case as the present. He heliessa,, no t h i n g pens ;w e l l to the es that such an expiessionas hadben,. W ilmot) decl a cd without any qn:lification.• ... ;,.: •aeovessions ee ANNINU said heshould be . era h ive C 4 ispleasure of the Haase. Woe; dwro bee , anion .to any censer, ixoniiha te . .honout ninny rig the thought ha had a * forei.lefrit to tl • Sir F. BUR ',. said he must then implore tha . ‘, Sir had Ise substantially and effectively. 4 .. • quite confiden ,1 . ,01i, of the FXCHEQUEltairliv II appeared to o entertain a doubt as to die prat; fru eze t f n . respecting r , estion which had fallen from dlr. Id also be no doubt that, with reo of the Right I, ens of the House, the langnagena setting, aside i derly. At the same time, he markt offensive. If ,e and Learned Getaleman, speaks. last conceived non would to another—(Chterep•o offensive, he o cage which fell from him wen* . t a n d own i n The Honourable and Leiria Sir ROBEIi the habit of speaking in thank., solved in diffic rnce, and with a strength of He thought tl 3 him-elf Had such terms as hid: Hon. Gentler)) i Right Honourable Friend, ter* peliti ea li y i Roc ro ich, not merely addressed tent, Mr. CANNI in that character he sitilitiliir General right[; ddressed to him, as it welt. pis a r i a ) f rom a he should, at the monsentdram s sentiments in language' not- net lo t: ri te ) , t guiltybat wi , of mourable and Learned Genital* s o f, as lam b ing in character as a man, or asa, same ti me sr i t l louse, if he were to retrace thole.. , I will further called forth the elpression. lb • the Learned G our able and Learned Gentlernas ; me: personally. meant to convey a personal imps- • having unbeco e ail liable to irritable feelings; I swage, for do tenet of which, intemperate leo L - tation which is se from the most guarded of their. 'l, If that intentioi L said, that the observations ofthe 'ifit be applied • Exchequer led him to karat » ' The SPEALi ifficulty was occasioned by bins. now to conside suggested, that the languageidn. .s made sufficient earned Gentleman applied Mit. , If not, the Hot Secretary, was nos.. only ditsig the Orders, so ; ler, but had a•meacing peril* what seemed n I a case it was his the Speak' standing. He and he certainly should backrest cretary to have al the words bore such a cannon House. Severs ailed upon the Honourails.arg first used tp ha an to state, whether lie hi lil r iip . sidered them tic :o convey such a meaning? ''.'. House to decla: NI was about tii speak, Am. .... to proceed fard rose to order. Ile submitted tails • Mr. BitOUG be Right Hon. Secretary cooed* codsult his own le Hon. and Learlied Gentleman . . fore he entered sive, heshould have first mosigikit remainder of th down ; and then have callediatt terrupted by th n. But there would be an cod seal Canning). Bel 'such an interruption as that of it le begged it•ao ary were allowed. It was 1.110, planation had n ice, before any one could t lip (i s t s t i t t t l h y s en nsa isr bef a th , a m w t h .e j gl i k - lion of it might qualify r ; o call now upon the Heat an for an esplaaation, wie ° farina of its ord interference would have cow ptilig mined by ever ,he thought, entirely emir dome& .. taken into putt f the Right Hots. Secretary hal . was•not cyan e le, for one, could assert the Sight should also and tat he thought there woggle/4 , heir, glen). 11 his honour it be would eitkikAg, ', part of that pre ad used, in order to makes*ist to its-pries a the Hon. and Learned Goodwin.. custody, in cos L said be had understood the IS 4 been addressed say, that he withdrew roar" setuface in whil entiment. His eudeasamemee b il e eeis aadwiansti e w elf li r fair explanative) which veroglier on that the language of digger'' he hill made 9* leman was ippked only 4100."'”" 1.41 / t ; Right Hon. Secretary. - 4 not take upon IANNINCI said he•shouldo4l" used words that House, and receive its oesooteios and personal ap • could ant either recal of 1 4 11 1 iliCecharacter of used. ..... •.. . the boundaries b ALI) HA ItIILTIN taid4 ll4l # ;L _ III/Ire ter of his I he knew diet/hair wouldirNkle. ._ ._weeHouse to juC would, do its duty. Ware 411 ellairellstihe ha, net be someobitsg very pea11it._......, %sot' k vas un eSSOne w)Ai,ch I , t un en d d asit in tusseritt a : 44 flitguosioss ,1 pam bi na liet l g eg uarne phasr 7 said, the 'Chair bad -.- 6 , tenegly osotbe 1 y o d f ec th la e ri fi ng auc. who % Ile s t uke . . • .r i ~ .1 tthem , and I i eaves. ea t) Aso of repression in question w oallse !ancialiStatll 11 **e:cited wh e E t w h s o ci a u s . g ' b s ri e t . r cenuoto r it ti so le it d i o d Sh r zu h t 14_ '.- .., c .s.e..7 denta . 11 1 ) 1 , 11 : I d: l i constswady• with. his see ' ~ -••• reettleellinte JUN, • Member .conolusind 41 *A ir N ap. sigetiqg 1 Lionour.ibia.tieogip " . 4 la daginnerledge Arms." ) ~„, , 4SLOW second , the • f°l*, Mutes al ' el te plib gN thought thet a the : . ~,....._. lia . n were disorderly, bursts i t s.,, , nligai/best i p lysfor I T s u e p n t te in n g ce L l m ie . did ne oot cap ree ki t a . ~- . 'f ili eld'il"Plties s f the flun.lientlents% 'q . t.. t ettli'Rf fit tic eal di ffi culty in the welln,. . . t aks„,: .- ... it that the explaisatiothaf tires . oto , _ich he consi be sileeble: DI sufficient.' He thoon . • • • , • • . • • - - . . . •