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rs • le r, le pf 1- the people had not been oh the side of what be Consi dered the cause of liberty aid justice. The county meet. Inge, so match relied on, Were but two; and from all he had beard , he thaugbt that in bot h cases the ma jority of real freeholders was very narrow. The Noble Lord bad said he would be the last man to agitate the country. Was this so? Had be been mistaken in reading the -pause of Wmchilsea and Nottingham in certain papers? But the answer to the appeal made in that name would probably satisfy the Noble Lord. As yet he heard no answer. yet silence, as they often heard. gave consent. He hoped, however, that the good sense of the country would preserve it from the influence of agi tators of every description. If the people would not exert themselves without efforts of this kind, it might be taken for granted they did -not feel very deeply those sen.' timents which distinguished the Noble Earl. They had heard of the great number of persons in Devon. shire and Cornwall who were adverse to concession. if this were' so, it was extraordinary that a Gentle man should have been returned for Cot nwall. by a large majority, whose sentiments were so liberal that he believed he might class him among Parliamen• tat,. Ref irmers. Upon the whole, he concluded that, the sense of the people was favourable to the mea ures proposed, in which he hoped his Majesty's Minis ters would persevere, and that they would have the sup port of that House, as they should certainly have his oup port to the best of the feeble abilities that Gon had given him. As to the charge of inconsistency, it was not l.is province to defend the Ministers of his Majesty; they not his aid ; but he could not refrain • from ex pressing his opinion that their task in this respect would be a very easy one. It had been asked, what circum stances had occurred to justify their change r.f opinion? , 1 Vas a divided Ministry nothing? The evil of this bad been stated in another place much more strongly than be could state it. But he had never been insensible to that evil, for in conjunction with his .oble Friend,LordGren vine, he had refused to form patio( a divided Adminis tration when applied to for that purpose by the late Duke of York. in behalf of his Majesty, then Prince Re gent. He would trouble the House by reading part of the letter addressed by his Noble Friend and himself to his Royal Highness, from which it would be seen how strongly they felt upon the subject—(The Noble Ear l here read the letter).—This evil of a divided Govern• merit had been long felt, and would every day increase. Another and still greater evil in the present state of things was a divided Parliament, which was the more alarming on account of the clouds which loured from abroad. And in what a situation would the country be placed in the event of a rupture with a foreign Power? Then there were the seven millions of people in Ire. land, actuated not by loyalty and affection to this country, but by jealousy arid The Noble Lord here pronounced a warm eulogium upon his 'Majesty's Ministers, with whom he prolesssed to be entirely un connected, and concluded by referring to the national right and privileges for which we were indebted to our Catholic ancestors. Lord TEYNH AM said a few words in favour of con cecsion, and of the sentiments expressed by the people of Ke II in their counter Petition. Lord FALMOUTH begged to give some explanation of the sentiments which had fallen from him yesterday. He had spoken freely of the decisions of the l üblic meetings in Devon and Cornwall. But the Noble Eail thooght his allusion to the latter incorrect, inasmuch as one of the County Members was returned as a Rel"rinei ; yet that Hon. Gentleman could have told tie Noble E sil., that however disposed his electors might ha.e been on the question of Reform, they were in an im. mense maps ay hostile to the Catholic Claims. Tie Noble Lord then proceeded to read the Kent Petition. paragraph by paragraph, and to relute the consul uctic n o hich had been put on it by those who were favourable to the concession of the Catholic Claims. He also re ferred to the majorities which had occulted in previous debates, and denied that they bore out the aid rence which the Nole Lord had deduced from them. The Earl of WINCHILSEA, in reply, vindicated himself•ftom the imputation of undue warmth if feel ing, and denied that he had disturbed private society in the county circle in which he usually moved. He could further state, without fear of contradiction, that he had neither directed the attendance, nor used any influence to bring a tenant of his to Penenden-heath upon the day of meeting. .Of that assembly he could positively say, the majo, ity in favour • of the petition was in the proportion of 12 to 1. The Noble Earl (Lord Darn- ley) remained in his waggon, while, he bad gone re• peatedly through the crowd, before the business wasl spun out to so late an hour that the Sheriff could hardly see the result. He was quite sure that Meet ing expressed the sense of the county at large, and he scorned to vindicate the erten of honour and character with whom he had acted. (tom any imputa tion of having promoted that exptession of opinion by unfair and disingenu•ius n cans. He knew, indeed, that at the other side pains were taken to brii:g para.' s an s into the li Id. and that a considerable body of per., s•'ns were brought up to stifle, if possible, the voice of the real freeholders of .the county, and drive himself , and his colleague from the Heath. Some Noble Lords, Toted, thought that the general feeling of the country had in this respect undergone a great changes II e could concur, with th.ni in tit .t view. he should cert.iiily refrain from urging his own sentiments upon their Lordships; but believing the cnntra•y to be the case, he could nut conscit ntiously relinquish opini•ms which he believ'ed to be correct; and he felt a strong cenviction that .before a few weeks, perhaps days. elapsed, thr Governmeet would find that the genet. 1 mpinit.n r f the re ple of England remained unaltered, moon the impolicy of conceding political power to the Roman Catholics. lie hoped bat the measure %timid riot i e pressed until the vt:ice of the country could b head uo n i:s import. Goo lotbid that he shot LI be deemed unnecessarily an agitator, but feeling strongly, upon this subject. he was only discharging his duty in giving vetit to his f.•elings. As to the historical char cc! of the Cat'lolics, he could nut help rem+, king that ,he parties to whose literal principles allusion had been made, were for tl e most part excommus•icated bodies. Earl GREY, in explanation, said, that though ex communicated they had been Catholics, and had in curred tbe malediction of the Pope by a resistance to his tram'. Lord BEXLEY derlired that he did not concur in the blame which had been cast upon Ministers f not earlier di-closing amt. intentions respecting the in• tended meatute. Did the Noble Duke suppose, that because he had been enabled to make up his opinion nn this important question only a few days before the' meeting of Parliament, the sentiment of the nation bid also changed within that short time? Was the re •petience of the last few days :efficient to convince him that the sentiment of the nation was no longer adverse to those alterations of the Constitution wlia it had hitherto so stienuously resisted ? ' He had hiusfli seen no symptom of any such change in the opinions of the people of England. Besides the petition which had been presented that evening by his Noble Friend from the county of Kent, there were four other petitions la • to be presented with similar• prayers from four other large counties. He believed that when the nature of the proposed chinges was fully known to the country, more petitions would pour in against them than had ever been presented to their Lordships upon any other subject. The present measure was ' described as a measure of conciliation but he, deemed that every measure of concession was also a measure of conciliation. In a minute of concilia• lion, the feelings of two parties must always be con sulted. Each of the adverse parties might to be per mitted to state his case; but in the present instance only one of them had been heard. He felt how improper it was to go 4 large into the general subject on this oc cation, and be should therefore abstain in time, al though the Noble Earl who had spoken on the other side had entered into it most largely. As to the state ments of the Noble Earl with regard to the declared opinions of the other House of Parliament, he had only one remark to make, and that was, that all that the Noble Earl has proved amounted merely to this—that for a long succession of years there had been regular alternations of majorities on each side of the question, and many ♦ery narrow and close divi sions upon it. He must also observe, that he did not think that there was any thing unfair or unconstitutional in hisNobleFriend's declaring it to be his deliberate opinion that, when great changes were going to be proposed in the Constitution of the country, the Administration of the day ought to appeal to a Parliament specially elected to take them into consideration. There was one pact of the Noble Earl's speech which he did not clearly comprehend ; but it appeared to him as if the Noble Earl had asserted that liberty of conscience fotmed no pan of the present qoestion. He would ask theN ,, bleEarl hi- they he really meant to assert that liberty of conscience did not form any part of this question? He would ask him, whether the professors of the It 'man Catholic religion had not endeavoured to put down liberty of conscience, whenever they either had or thought that they had the power? He would ask him, whet' er any thing but the over throw of the Roman Catholic religion 1 In this country prevented its professors from destroying the religion which was now established ? It WAS said, however, that we owed the principal part ofl our liberties to the exertion; of our Catholic ancestors; and as a proof of it, we were told that the most valu able safeguard of national and individual freedom the trial by jury, was the ins hobos of the Catholic Allred. Now, allowing Alfred to have been the inventor of that institution, which might perhaps be questioned, still he would say, that Alfred was no Roman Catholic, or at least not such a Raman Catholic as we were accustomed to see in modern times. The Roman Catholics the present day were opposed to Ye diffusion of the Scrip tures in the vernicular tongue. Could that be pre dicated of the illustrious Alfred? By no means; he had himself translated a great portion of the Bible, into his native tongue. Most of our other great Catholic Princes, who had been quoted as such staunch friends to the liberties of their people, had been tainted with the spirit of persecution, which ap peated to him to form no small part of Catholiciim itself. The ascendancy of.lbs i ,a r sma:t Catholics was. not yet restored, and he.tnisted that-it•never would b•; for h: was prepared to show that the spirit of Ca. bolt. cism was, as one of its poets had asserted, immortal and unchanged." He was convinced that if ,hr,ineasrite shou'd pass, their L•trdslips would soon be compelled to tsitness a succession r f Roman Catholic encl. ach ments, which would never cease until vose who onside (hem succeeded in overtu►ning the tellgion of the country, or were themselves overturned by the violent re.action of their own ei.thosiAton.—The Petit Vis was then laid upon the table. The Earl of DA !INLET said, that he had a Petition to pre. rent in favour of Catholic Emancipation, which came from a large proportion of the Freeholders of Kent. It might not be so oume• rowdy signed as that which lud 'Ns( been presented by his Nubk Friend from the same county * built was ►till very ounveruu.sly and respectably signet. Among the Individu..l4 whore signatures were attached to it, were 15 Members of their Lordships House, and many other opulent and respectable FretholdriS. The Duke of RICHMOND—How Many signatures are there so it? The Earl of DA RNLRY—Seventeen hundred. . The Petition was tbrn laid oti the table. The House then adjourned, at Har.r.esss Rion: o'Cr.ocK, to Monday neat. • HOUSE OF COMMONS - Mr. &min i from the Bank of Ragland. brought up various ae counrsof balances in the hands of the Governor. Sir H. INGLIS presented a Petitio; frets7Ashbury, in Berk shire, against graining further concessions to the Roman Catholics. —Ordered to liven the t4ble. Mr. BANK ES pt . /seined similar Petitions from 900 of the In habitants of Poole, and from Wooten, in the county of Duraet.— Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. WHITMORE presented a similar Petition from north. In Shropshire—(hdried to lie on the table. Major General KING presented studio Petitions front the town of Ilandon, and two harindes.in the county of Cork. The Hum Member observed tbarth, petition from Bandon Was signed by 1,800 of the inhabitants.— Oril,red to lie un the tabl e . Mr. ELLIS presented a Psalm) front the Unitarian Society of Newcastle-upon Tyne in favour of Catholic Emancipaiion.—Or-. shred to 1k on the table. Mr. DUNCOMBE yresented a Nthion front the Archdeacon and Clergy of the archdeacnory of Bridgnorth, in the dioceve of Chester, on the subject of the Catholic Claims.—Ordered to lie on the table. • Mr. 11 DAVIS presented a Petition from the Pariah of St. Augustine, in die city of Bristol, against the RomanCatholicCliims and also praying for the suppres.tion of the Catholic Association._.. Ordered to he laid on the table. The lion. Member then presented another Petition of a similar nature. front the inhabitants or St Thomas's Parish, in.the city of Bristol, which was also laid on the table. AJmiral EVANS pietented a Petition front the Town and veil h bourhood of Cbarleville, in the county of Cork, against further con cessions to th e Boman Catbolics.—Ordered to lie on t h e table. . . . Admiral SOTHERON presented six Petitions . teont vaihtys pari4hts In the county' of Nottingham, all against granting further canice%sions to the Roman Catholics. Mr. LLOYD presented three Petitions from the Roman Catholic Inhabit-its «f the town' of Newcaule, In the county of Limerick, praying for Catholic Emancipation. The SoLICITOIt.GIiNkRA L presented a Petition from the Archdeacon and Clergy of the Archdeaconry of Ely. against grant ing further concessions to the Roman Catholics, andr lso praying for the effectual supprewion of the Cath o lic Araociation.—Ordered to Io on the table. • Mr. H. MAXWELL presented Pwltions to the same &est from Armagh, Lomb, Leitrim, Longford. and Catlow, la Irelaud. —Ordered to he on Ilse table. Mr. BOYLE presented a Petition from the Roman Catholic inhabitants of quirked!e in favour of Roman Catholic Bananci pAtion.—Ordered to lie on the table. Jr. W. PEEL moved that an humble Address be laid before his Majesty, praying for a copy of the stOth Report of the Commis sioners of Inquiry into the State of Public C h arities.—Ordered. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE presented Petitinns from Chard and. other parishes lo the county of Somerset against granting further concessions to the Hassan Catholic.—Ordered to tie on the table. Mr. Secretary PEEL said he had the honour to pie. sent to the. House the Petition of the Chancellor, , Mus• ter., and Scholars of the University of Oxford, praying that no further political power might be granted to the Roman Catholics. He telt himself bound to state that the opinions advanced in this petition were couched in still stronger won than petitions coming from that body had formerly been expressed; sod it was also duty to state, that the petition was not agreed to with out due notice having been given, but that it was agreed to at a more numerous assembly than had usually been biniight together when the subject was discussed, and that the opinion expressed in the petition, though not an unanignotts opinion, was the opinion of a larger ma• ijority than forafeily, the numbers in fay, ur of it 'icing 164, while those against it amounteJ to 48. It had fallen to his lot to present this petition in the absence of his Hon. Colleague, who WAS detained from the House by a do mestic calamiy, And he had discharged his duty in thus doing justice to the feelings of the Uni versity of Oxford, and in calling the attention of the House to the relative numbers at the meeting by which that petition was carried. The Petition was then brought up and read. Oa the motion that this Petition be printed, _ _ Mr. BRANSBY COOPER was desirous upon this occasion—when a petition against Catholic emancipa tion was presented from so learned a body, a bbdy ne. cessarily so deeply interested in the welfare of the Established Church—to state his sentiments with re ference to the important subject. He felt himself the more called upon so to do because of the great surprise and disappointment he had felt at the opening of the present Session of Parliament—a surprise and disap. pointment, indeed, which had been so great as to have heretofore deprived him of the power of giving utter ance to his feelings. The change that had taken place in the sentiments of his Majesty's Council was indeed most extraordinary, and the country had been alto gether unprepared for it. It was, therefore, with the most poignant regret he hscl witnessed that change in the sentiments of his Majesty's Goveinnieno and, in particular, in the sentiments of his Right Hon. Friend the S cretary of State for the Home Department. He (Mr. Bransby Cooper) could not have apprehended the .possibility of such a change; and, indeed, from the correspondence between him and the Right limn. Gen tleman, he should have held it to be n.terly impossible. He deeply lamented such a d-lection from the c lose, not only becau e of the heavy loss it had sustains f, but because it had the effect of paralyzing the efforts of many of those who had been always disposed to place the utmost reliance upon the Government. He had listened with the utmost attention to the speech of the R - ght Hoa. Secretary at the opening of the Session. in hopes that he might have heard some can assigned for the unaccountable alteration in his sentiments ; hut he had found none; and, even in the speech re lative to the state of Ireland, he had found nothing that satisfied him. It was, indeed, full of details relative to the distressing and disturbed condition of that couotty, but it was a condition that Is 4d existed for a considerable time, and might have been changed by decisive and lawful means. His conviction was, that, if exertions were made to suppress tumultuary pi oceedings in the south of behind, they would be successful, pal ticularly now that the Protestant feeling had revived and the Protestant pe rple.were unite o He would say that, if the danger was ten times greater than it aas admitted to be, he could not conceive that the Ministers of the Crown welts justified ir, infringing thevital principle of theßritish Con stir ution.ThAt principle was essentially Protestant,and if it weteinfringed upon, the consequences might be snore fatal than could be well conctived. He certainly agreed with the Right H nourable Secretary that a system of neutrality in the Cabinet upon this subject had been persisted in tool .ng, and ought to have an end, because it encouraged hopes which could never be properly ful filled; but he thought a Protestant King ought to have a Protestant Ad 'maim), and no doubt one could be easily formed. It had been stated that we might have such muskies as would satisfy us; but the best security was, to his niinti,total exclusion. It was also coire ided that the quiet , ion of the RomanCatholic-clairris to political poo er would be now settled; but he considered it sewed at the Revolution ; and as it was admitted on all sides that the Roman Catholic Religion rentaineJ unchanged.it would be impossible to give the Catholics Emancipation with out danger to the Constitution—A ithout introducing positive evils against which no. security could guard. He knew not of what natio e the ititended rue .sure was to be, but he felt perfectly assured that it would satisfy either party. He had long con, idered the question, and to his mind it was utterly impossible to gr • lit it without minsinetit dunes to the Constitsition of these iealmb— ai bout impairing the t i tl e o f t h e H ouse o f tois icic to the "Throne—without depattilig from th .t line of policy by which this country had risen to the highe t ttstion among the nations a the eatth—without endangering tie vet) , existence of the establi hied r without conternitiag that Paitotoace by which it bad bre.) so long and so signally preserved—(Hear) He belonged to that church ; he aas one of the vue Protestants ; and be belonged also to that band of brsolters who had de termined to aco'under present carcumst sneer, in such a way as, by every constitutional means they could, to prevent the Roman Catholics from holding *CMS in either House of PAlliaitient upon any terms what tweet. Lord NUGENT said, he could not ostler the intima. lion of the Hon. Member for Gloucester, that thine who opposed the Catholic Claims only were true Postestanto to pass without notice. Ile (Lord Nugent) assumed for ,himself, for those Hon. Friends who agreed with him, ano for the Right lion. Secret +r y , who had dose himset! so much honour by the course lie had pue surd, the title of true Piot. stouts—the right to he considered notes tints as true as the H n. blenibt r for Gloucester or any ,othigi individual in the House. 'l' c basis cf true Pro testantism was liberty of conscience, freedom of opinion ; and lie wi uld Dever silently bear the title atrogat-d as exclusively belonging to those also oppose the C.ith• lic Claims. Air. B. COOPER, in explanation, said that he certainly did not mean to arrogate the character of •' true Protestants" exclusively to himself and those who thought as he did. Mr. OUNCOAI HE (Hertford) observed, that the lion. Mem bers who opposed the intended measures of his Majesty's Ministers ought to propose the adoption of some measures iu their stead. Mr. C. WYNN said, he was surprised to hear it said in that House that the security of the Houser f Brian, wick could at all depend on the settlement s•I theCasholic Q.iestion. The best security of the Throne was in the atfection of a free people, au.d in the support of Parlia• meot, who bad a right to limit the succession, and who had already exercised that right. He was glAd the Go vernment had determined to put down all political As sociations in Ireland; and he a as alsoglad that Catholics, as well as Protestants, had agreed in the necessity of putting down theCatholicAssociation ; but he hoped that measure would be followed by another that would give Emancipation to the Catholics, and tranquillity and security to the ixtotestants of these realms. With regard to the conduct of the Right Hon. Secretary for the Hume Department, be (Mr. Wynn) entirely approved of it.— He thought it reflected the highest credit on the Wight Hon. Gentleman, who might. it was ti ue, obtain a I tile by an appearance of consistency in giving up office for a time, and returning to power, after allowing others the responsibility of measures which he would be called upon afterwards to enforce—(Hear). 'f he Hun. Gentle man had pursued a manly and straightforward course, , and he deserved the support of the House, and of the country. Mr. Secretary PEEL assured his Hon. Friend the Member for Gloucester that, hosiever be might differ in opinion from that Hon. Gentleman; he should ever entertain towards him sentiments of unaffected esteem. He felt assured that he would pursue no course which be did not believe to be honest and honourable. .He (Mr. Peel) tote only in consequence of the Hon. Meal• tier's allusion to a c.stresprindence that ti4J,takr.sa place betsieenthem;aiiehe would Vave been better aatisfied it the correspondencehsd been read rather thaorefetted to. When the Hon. Meint.er wrote to liis Majesty's Governnient for formation as to the course the meant to pursue, his 'meet for his H Friend ; rev , •nted his leaving his letter without reply, yet he slid not con ceive it tight to give him the iiitot tow ion for which he sought. His Honcuiabl. !fiend had tied that h had heard nothing with mitten: e to the condition cf Ireland that bad not been state,' before; and that no circumstance existed in that count , y which could not be put down by the strong arm of power. In his opinion he (Mr. Peel) petfectly concurred; but, he would ask, when he had done so, w here were we? In the year 1798, the success of the law was complete, and certainly would have been so again ; hut, after the most complete success, would not the question have semained just where it had been, except that aninu.sitiis would have gathered additional bitterness, and s iciety mote deeply pois-ned by the struggle? And outing the int real of that struggle, let etfti y individual Jet the position in which the Established Cbureli r f Ireland would have been placed. Such were the m t iers to which the minds of a 1 persons ought to have been directed before the question were left to the is-u: of a civil conflict.—The Petition was then laid upon the table. - - Lord NUGENT presented a Petition in favour of Catholic Ensancips ' from certain Protestant shopkeepers and others of the city of theritd.—Laid on the table. Lord NUGENT gave notice that lie should. on Monday, pre. sent to the House the Petition of his Nlajetty's Roman Catholic subject+. in England and Scotland, pr iying for Catholic Eanancipe tion. lle thought it due to the high character of that body toys' this notice of his intention. Air. 0. CAVE presented a Petition from the rem Jr Inhabit. ants of Cagle Dollington against the practice of hulloing Widows in itedia.—Lail on t..e. Sir 11. lIARDINGE 131.1 upon the table of the House tf., Army k•timates. Mr. G. DAWSON hrousht up a Return or the Net Income and Repttulitute of the Country (runt the Sth Jan. MS, to tic sth Jan. 18.9. COMMITTLE Of SUPPLY. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order ut the DAy fur the House resolving itself into a Committee of Supply.—On the question that tke Speaker do kave the Chair, Mr. HUME wished to know, whether the Flu si.ce Committee were to contiune their itivestigatton, and what :eduction was contemplated Cu be mule in the ex• penses of the country, or in the funded or untuoded debt, and whetEer any mode had boen adopted by the Government for simplifying; the public recounts? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he had come ,o .he determination if pro'. °song the revival of the Finance C mnii.tee for some time; but he caned assure the Hon. Gentleman that, notrith'trnd ing this, Government would a t be remiss in g ving effect to every practicable measure of reirinchment.— The ICpOst treint the Gentlemen t f the Finance Com. mittee wtw•volumin , u•, and he had not yet comileted the perusal of it ; but he would at an eat ly pe iod , when he should be enabled to offer an opinion to t! e Itruse. Mr. HUME said,. th it he liacl originally ohjecieJ to the mode in which the Finance Committee had been formed, as he did not think it was cepab:e of embracing the mass of details to be presented to it. Ile was a Member of that Committee, and, without refertiog to himself, he could bear testirisbny to its atal and inius. try. But lee supposed what was er•n,idrred • 'Teals of his at the time he suggested it must yet be sealosed, which was, :hat specific departments should be assigned to specific Committees. The Seamen's then kit the Ch-ir, and the !louse resolved itself into a Committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER matted a rest.lut on that the burn of 88,046,00td. It grained tut paying die Rachequrr ILltt outstaniling op to 1829. Mr. HUXI Es. with .d to know what we.e the i.ten. tions of Government as to the large sum rf Fl atitg debt. The Honourable Member said, that Exci.etpirr Bilis wet e payable on demand, nd the r.oly r. 4161411 vby they were not presen ed i.o.v was, that t h ey mete at 4is ad r ansed premium. But Vivre was 1.0 security agaiost these being paid in, and he c ul.l not agree to tin, vote unless informed 4 f sstia M inisters intet.ded to do %sr h regard to the unfunded dent. 'ihe CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER de c,iiied entering into any explanation ut the intentions of Goverttnient at present, as be was of opinion that a premature di.clostrie cancer ning the foods or other public property, WAS calculated to pr• duce in convenience. The House would feel that such' dis ci° ore, if it had no other effect, would give , ri,e to gieat extended speculation that might convulse the country genes a;ly, and especially the *o et market. On these grounds he thought hion+ell ju titled in m t giving the II •nourable Gentleman the iittorniatitm he required; but there would by nth-r opr o tulaties fir tl e ft.n. Gentleman to be it•g i, sutject begot , the Howe. He night introduce it wt en the vote would be caled for in the Ci.mmit tee of Ways And Alean., and whets he ( he Chancellor of the Ezchecpte ) should b ine in a Bill %%hid) he intended to bring forward on the S a:rig Fund Act. Ms. AIABERLY theught that specul‘Ce n wN)1..1 be much more -voided by a declaration of the intentions of Ministers. lie saw no reason why Mini•ters should not say what the) meant to do as to the payment of that dangerous debt. Mi. HUME sthclattneJ any stiffs t.s anticipate. hot he was anxious to inquire into the aggregate and funded debt, this Large balances, and the situation of the batik of England. Thy resolution was then agreed to, as was akii a r. a.,iwiun for granting £392,000 to di-charge Exchequer Hills is.ued lor the encouragement of the Fisheries and the building of additional Churches. The following resolution was then put: a That a rum not ex ceeding £4,000,000 he granted to di.charge like suKtliei in the years 1824, 1825, 1826, 18 , 27, and 1828."—l1e Muse then re. bunted, and the Report was brought up, and ordered to be rt. ceived on Monday next. CATWILIC /188 , CIATION SUPPRIssmoN ACT. The Mouse then resolved itself into a Conuniare on the Ca. tholic Association Act. The Mil bring read clause by Mr. GEORGE 0. MOORE suggested that, to guard against the resurrection of the Catholic Association under another name, the following words should be inserted alter the words • " surh member," in the twelfth line of tile first clause, " under any name, device, or pretext whatever." • After some obtervations from Mr. Peet, the ilirrnassv-Gl - and Lord Nucixtrr, the clause was sacred to remain, as being sufficiently prohibitory as it stolkl. Mr. WALLACE (ot Yarmouth) suggested the pro priety of introducing into the Bill a form of the proclamation to be issued by the Lord Lieutenant. If his Excellency should issue an order for the suppression of any Aseociation, great difficulty might arise in carrying the order into effect fur, if the Niagistrates to whom it was directed were anxious to secure their own in demnity, they must take care to he quite sure as to the identity of the body which they were directed to suppress. There would, however, be no danger of this kind if the proclamation should be directed against a body specifically described. Mr. Secretary PEEL said that the Lord Lieutenant would exercise his power with considerable quelihcation. The Lord Lieutenant must see that the body to be suppressed was likely to produce danger to the public safety ; and if the Lord Lirutenant ' should not be able to prove to Parliament that any meeting which he should order to be suppressed was dangerous, he would not he justified, in a moral view, in having used in that way the pow'e committed to him. 'I he ATTORNEY GENERAL said, that tate mug be taken not to fetter the Lord Lieutenant in each a manner as to render the powers which it wits intended to confer upon him abortive. Mr. A. DAWSON expressed his satisfaction at thir explanation of the measure wbiels bat; just fallen from tbelligbt Hon. Secretary of State. Ile understood by Ulu expbattiou that 4 , 1. - t i, .1. 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