Star. — London, England, 1806-03-27 00:00:00

PATRIOTIC FUND. Lloyds, 25th March, don. AT a GENERAL MEETING of the COM MITTEE, held this day, Read from ilas London Casette Extraordinary tithe 24th in- Amt. letters from Vies Admiral Sir Joss Two MA s Dere two 1t Tt, K. B. cossmandier a kaadron of his Moiety's &fps, addreSed to WiI•LIAM IN A RUMP/. Erg. reladag ao elapse* with a Tres& Alum:lran at St. Domingo, on the eh of february, in which all the enemy's line of bairJe natps were captured or dettroyed. flatolved. That a Vale, of the vale of Four Hundred Pounds, orsamesteu with emblematical device, and an approviate iTI• feriptian, be pawned to Vice Admiral Sir John Thome Duck worth. IC B. That a Vafe, of the value of Three Hundred Pounds, with as appropriate infctirtion, be profaned to 11. car Admiral the p.n. Alexander Cochrane. that a We, of the value of Three Hundred Pounds, wick as appropriate isferiptioo, be prefested to Rear Admiral Thomas Louis. Reeled, That a Sword of the yak: of Ore Hundred Pounds,or Vale of the fame value (rt, their option), he prefented to each of the Captains and Commanders of his Majefty's Osips, who con tributed to that brilliant and deellive vidtory. Refolved, That therms of One Hundred Pounds be stringed to each of the Lieutenants of his Majetty's Navy. Captains of Rtrral Nailnes, and other Deere, in the (mond elan of his Majella Proclamation for the dittribution of Prise Mosey, who was fa. vertly wounded; and the lust of fifty pounds to cacti Oseer of the fame rank, who was nightly wounded. Refolved, That the Sum of f Pounds be pretested to cads of the Officers In the third Clefs, who was leveret, wounded ; and the Sum ar shirty pounds to each °lnca of the fame rank, who was nightly wounded. Refolved, That the Sam of Forty Pounds be prefented to each of the Mee in the fourth Clan, wt.*. was leveret, wounded; and the ale of tweet? -Eve pou nds to each Officer of the fame nak WINN flit* Ildoko4 . Thadio boa dhow Pounds be relented to every SUMS or may be attended With difability or I* of limb; de OM affinity P minds to each Seaman or Mims fan* wooalois so& do Sum of ten pounds to each Sosion or kW*, Sib* lepoodad. 7flßßelief bsolliollall to the Widows. Online. Pa- We • iitarn ebe cn enort on the 011 e at, ,s 2, Petty ,' • ou ir theirrelliodlive 14111111Zaliande known to the Committee. J. P. WELS FORD, Secretary. P4IRLIAMENTARr FR6cEEDftvc3. HOUSE OF LORDS, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 26. Could were be.,rd at fome length, relative to the Scots Appeal, Peter Johnfton, Efq. and others, o. Weifon and Ebenezer Stott, Pfq. viz. the Hon S. Percival, and Mr. Alexander. on the put of the Appellants. The bearing of the Refpondente Counfcl, was poithooed till to-morrow. The Hail of DARTMOUTH (u Lord Chamberlain) delivered his Mlefty's enfwer to the recent Addrefs of their Lordihips, touching the produahme of certain elowameothimportlng, that his Ditapity stroeM be fluid to give ditothiwas weerdiegly. The SW. urea the table was lionvaided la their reipedlte ibist• Allethildath the hill laud Fawkes 21:11 the kzeite larguleg law. op g wed the Eschew NM NIL Mr. jomatiew,feent the Aug, *BOW frowetary for Ireland, prefented «nein Mime" to parthesee Oche Aet of the 43d of rive Zion, rineb wen enthral to Ile withe Mr. H. Loma 's, Mr. Moithrioa. eM Mn pretested each am Meow MI bus U.S Cthellarter which: wore forthwith teed s 04 ties. • liewerendoe Mira was thee &Dead si; ter which, their LaMar adjawaid twwwwww. ROUSSO/ COMMONS. Mr. HOLFOAD brought up a Dm. fur well 'menhir 124 better rqiulallog the Philanthropic Sodety, which was read a fait time. Mr. Joassow,froas the Olke ofthe OW Secretary ip rebated an Account of all Offices granted in meek* ID = and of all offices in Ireland granted to two or mad pidlAsa he their concurrent Um.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. Rix, from the EaeVe Ofilee, prefented an Account of OM Produce of the Dodos on Malt for the fall two yews. =SIN IA January 1806. Mr. BURDON brought up a Bill for the better Adareaftweedast of Coals fea•barne, which was read a left time. Mr. VANSITTART moved for lave to bring in X Bill to ma power the Tradury of Ireland to iffue Treafury Bilk on dm was of fuel aids as mould be granted by Parliameat far the finks of 111 Ireland for acid—Leave granted. The Hook then refolved Well into a Commktee of Supply. Mr. VANSITTAAT °braved in the COMMlttee, that the %Mt of England, at the renewal of their Charter, had tent the font of three n Moos to Government for fix years. For this they might ave espcded intereit at the rate of 5 per cert. but had agreed to eke only 3 per cent. This he confidered as an aft of great 11., erahty on their part. and deferring the acknowledgement of the bile. It was need:fare, pro forma, that the Committee mould era a vote for difchargingthe principal of this Loan. Mr. TILRNF.Y contended, that the whole condua of the Bank on this fulled h.d been marked with illiberality. In confequence tithe fulptribeni of their payments in fpecie, they had been ens bled to make Immo& gains, and this might be confidered as a (mall return for thde advantages which they enjoyed. Mr. VAPSI n ART repeated what he had before Paid, and the Refolution wan then agreed to. in the Committee, it was further raGived, that the Novel 3ozool be granted for defraying the &palms of New South Wales. BA , I. for Canada. 5,1651. for Nova Scotia. flood. Ihr the inand of St. John's. adds) for 2.l...vrooodland. 4,40c1. for the kahania Viands; and other Plantation Ellimates. . The Refolotinns were then agreed to, and the Report was ors drat to be received to morrow. Lard 0 -SWOON isafurnacd the Houk that his Majefty had been waited upsaWith the Addref. of the Houk, and hart been kradoufly pirated to giv. ord. ru, that an Account be bid before the Hook or ad Grains bellowed. at dui &Are of the Houle, and to ?rounded for !I be -ECRET A RY at WAR prtfentedan Account of It eturna of the VuluMeer Corp. to Great *kat", Thiel was ordered to be rioted. Cart 0? 0000 Noes. vANsrrTAR r moved, that the - Cape of Good Hope Trade Regabeitut Bill be read a third time ; on which Mr.VHd l atF.N KkLNS took an cur:nave view of the kn. pottatwe ot the Cape as a fettlement both in pew and war; and upreffeu Ms hope, that when peace Wield be reftorod, it would lie Maim:tin our porefhoo. Lord OARLIES took this opportuoity of enquiring. whether ilia Prio!city's Mitaiftere Inteoded to nonce the brilliant achieve. meat, by whit the Cape had bull , come Into our poffeliinu.- I'erhapa the, thought, that • vote of thaolte would be prt.MatUrC, %dors the euquelt bad bun fully completed The CIiftHCALLOR of the EXCHEQ4IER replied, that new. en hie • sjetiy'a Miuilten r: are inainediately connected with tillitary affairs were then in the Houfe ; but in their ah• taw • he would take upon him to fay, that he wan not aware of any to II ; and, at any rate, loch intention could not, with •o f tiety, be carried into act% before the conqucit was completol. , t u. CASTLEREAGH thought, that whathad been already ' was fulbeleot to mil for tne thank. of the Houle. They had not delayed their acknowledgments to the Army t h n conque► ed in Egypt till the winding op of the campaigo ; and the degree In wine• our troops had diltinguillud thudded., to the ounnience rn• • • nr their attack on die Cape fully entitled than too Vote of Thanks. AM CHANCELLOR of the EXCHtgyER repeated, th , t • be thought it Would be more fatisfadltory to delay Poch a motion, till the whole wee brought to a limeade! terminal's& Omani TARLETON contended, that fads fully warranting a Vote of Thanks were already afecrtaineJ, and Rated thcpcdfibl• oty o. a larger corps t f the enemy landing In the mean time, mad net. powering our troops. Sorb an scent could not withe r: the ...‘acls whit.% thy had already gained—but was the want of mid i ate Needs to prevent thorn from roceiving--(lfere the Hooper. r.dar Gentleibui was called to order by Lord H. Petty; who ob t ,geo c t hat Sc‘ •-rii.g i,to the fubjedt In en Irregular way, In w rib bairn I pported by the Hoare, the Bill was read a third and valLakaj • Wrft.ssLti' SILL. On the motion of the ATTORNEY GENERAL, the order (or the Houle rtfolving Welt into a Committee on the Witneffes MI was difeharged , and the Committee was poliponed to Tuddisy the istli of April. Mr. YORKE rule to know, if any objeetion would be made to his moving to morrow, for a copy of the Abltrads of the tarot ment undo. the Levy en Maffe AEI ? Mr. FOX laid, that in the atilt nce of his Right ton. Friend It wan impoiEble for him to fay, whether any objeGion would be mule to the motion. The ATTORNEY GENERAL gave notice, that he would move tomorrow fur a Committee to examine the Lords' journals, on the (Ojeda the Witneffes Bill. General TARLhTON gave notice of a motion for to-morrow fennight, rilatlve to the Defence Act, if the military Rate of the country Mould not be presioully brought bef..rc the Huufe by t Minifters. LOILD VISCOUNT MILVILLI. On the motion of Mr. WHITBREAD the orders of the Houfe of yefterday, on the fubjed of Lord Melville's Impeachment, were read. The Honour able Gentleman then faid, that the motion of which he had given notice for the Houfe being prefent at the trial in a Committee of the whole Houle, he confidered to be fo much a matter of courfe that it was with extreme furprife he &ft learned that any oppofition was meant to be made to it. It was fo completely incomprehenfible to him what could be urged againit his prefent motion, that he Ibould not think it neceffary now to endeavour to anticipate what might be faid, but hoped the Houfe would in dulge him with a few words in anfwer to any thing which might be advanced on the other fide. He then moved, that the node be prefent at the trial of Lord Vifcount Melville, as a Committee of the whoic Houfe. Mr. ROBERT DUNDAS (fon of Lord Melville) fisted, that the effea of the Honourable Gentleman's motion would be to induce the Lords to order Well.; mintier Hall to be fitted up for the trial of Lord Melville, inflead of allowing it to proceed at the Bar of that Houfe. Of the great public expence and in , convenience which this would occalion, he would I not fay a word; his obfervations would be folely di. retied to requelt the Houfe to confider the inconve nience, perhaps the injuttice and opprelfion, which the expence and daily attending this proceeding m u ll impofe on the perfon who was the objeft of it. The Houle mutt be aware, that if the trial came bn at the Bar of the Houfe of Lords, it would proceed un interruptedly—and if any queftion arnie which re quired the deliberation of their Lnrdlhips, the Ma ewers and others, who might be prefent , could o retire, for a Ilion time, until the point Should be determined. Not fo if the trial took place in Weft minfle: Hall. Any removal of the Lords to their own chamber for the purples of deliberation, mull be attended by a variety of ceremonies. neceffarily produttive of delay. It had been calculated that the difference in expedition, if the Impeachment was carried forward in Weitminfler Hall. and at the bar of the Houle of Lords was as three to one. It had been faid that this was a public butinefs. and that it *weld be inveltigated in public. In this opinion he =t. he only requefted that in punning this he Houle would abflain from any ad, the Milk of which mull be oppreffion to the individual concerned ; haraffing him by delay, and ruining by expeace. He fisould have thought that the long pentraeed trial of Mr. Hafting' would have been futficient to induce the Houfe to paufe before they inftitoted another impeachment in Weaminfler Hz& He had no doubt that the Honourable Gentleman, and the other Managers, would proceed with "'slink delay as poffible, but be was convinced that it would not be in their power Co to curtail the proceedings, if they went forward in Weitmiofter Hall, as to make them any thing near as !bort as they could be made at the Bar of the Houle of Lords. In theta! Mlfance of a fimilar nature, the trial took place in the Houle of Lords. On this cafe, that of Lord Macclesfield, the Honourable Gentleman, when he fire propofed the impeachment of Lord Melville, bad dwelt with peculiar emphafis, as affording an instance of the difpatch with which an impeachment might be con duaed. He ttutted that he did not mean to mock the houfe with this precedent, and afterwards depart from it. The trial of Mr. Hafting', in Weftminfter Hall, had occupied (even years; that of Lord Mac clesfield in the Houfe of Lords, onlytwenty-ope days. It would be hardly fair for the Honoorable Gentle man now to turn about and fay to the Honk, w You have chofen to proceed by way of impeachment, it (hall therefore be dose in the molt vexations manner poffibie." This perhaps (truck him more fbrcibly than it would any other Member, but he trolled the Houle would excufe him—bear! hear! With regard to the ability of Lord Melville to pay great expences lie could advert to it with the lefs hefitation, becaufe from the documents that had been produced before the Committee, no one knew better than the Hon. Gentleman, that Lord Melville's private fortune was by no means adequate to any great expenditure. He would not prefs his objeetion to a difilion, uidefske perceived that the general opinion of the Houle was with him. A great deal had been faid about obtain ing the end of fubflaatial juftice. How that could be better effected in Weflminfier Hall titan in the Houle of Lords, h could not conceije. He trolled however, that the Houfe, in endeavouring to obtaift fubftantial jullice, would not run' to the oppofite ex— treme, and do a fubftantial Mr. TIERNEY laid, that when the Honk had at left come to the refolution of Impeachment, he had trolled that no farther quetlion e.n the fuhjeEt would have been introduced. He was far from wifliing to fay any thing that might hurt the feelings of Lord Melville; and he could not help bearing his teftimony ' to the aria propriety with which the Hon. Gentle man who oppofed the motion had concluded bimfelf during the whole dunk of the difcuffion ; but he was confident the Houfe could not Itelitate to adopt the motion before them. The fubftantial ends of *plaice might, indeed, be attained by a trial at the tsar of the Houle of Lords, hut not with the fame fa. ti:.faftion to the public mind. He had always pre f.:l red the trial by impeachment, as more applicable to the high rank of the perfon adored. and the na ture -of the charges brought againft him ; and for the fame melon lie thought that the trial (hould be cooduaed with every plate lolemnity, fo that the public might be convinced, that no tank or Ration, however high, could proud any man from a Solemn decifion. The public expelled this folemn trial, at tended with every degree of publicity, and would not be fatisfied without it. With regard to its bearing hard on the private fortune of Lord Melville, a rims far plea had been urged by Mr..klallingt,' but it had not been !Mated to by the Houle. The Hon. Gen. rlsman alio complained of the delay that would en- Cue; but tl.is Houfe would not be accountable for any delay that might take place: The Houle were prepared to ellablift their charger, and fuch com plaints might be addreffed with more propriety to another Houfe. In fin, all the difference in refpeft of time between a trial in Weftminfler Hall and one at the bar of the Houle of Lords, would merely be in their Lordfhips travelling at times between the Hall and their own Houle. He concluded by giving his fupport to the motion. Mr. BANKES thought that the trial of Mr. Haf kings, fo far from being adduced as a precedent, ought to ferve as a warning to the Hnufe to avoid adopting any thing refembling it in future. He thought it was difgroceful to this Houle, to the Hoag of Lords, and to the country. It had taught him nev to take impeachment when jullice could be otherwi obtained, and never to fend a culprit into Weftmi Rer Hall, while another tribnnal remained befor which he might be tried. As to the public eepedal. tion requiring a trial in Weftraintler Hall, he mai convinced the public required no fuch thing. They had been fufficiently difgufted with a trial of eight feffinns already, and a trial of twenty•one days be fore the Houfe of Lords, while more confiftent witl the due attainment of the ends of public julliee, would be more gratifying to the feelings of the people. Lord FOLKSTONE contended, that it was un fair to contrail the trial of Mr. Hafting, with that o Lord Macclesfield. or aferibe the great length the former to the time cnnfumed in the forme at - tendant on fuch a mode of trial. It was owing t very different circumilances ; to the variety of th I charges brought againft him, and the complicate nature of the evidence by which they were fupport ed. It was a principle of the Conttitution, that all trials filmid be condeted in as public and open a trimmer as poffible ; and, finely, this principle o . pe: rated with the- greaten force in the cafe of an taxi peachment. In this point of view, the very eiresiss- i fiances which occalion delay may be important, as giving folemnity and publicity to the trial. For esti morons, he wiffied it to be condOled in Wellman* Hall. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQyER, expreffed his furprife at teeing Gentlemen who had overturned the decifion of the Hook on a criminal prnfccution, on the ground that it was not fufficiently dignified and folemn for the fituation and charader , Oahe Noble VitCount, now joining in an attempt, as much as poffible, to deprive the trial of that folemnity and importance which they formerly thought fo much fuited to it. The cafe of Mr. Hafting:, he contended, could not be held out as one from which the time to be employed in this trial could in the (Mallen degree be inferred. They were completely different in their nature, and in the evidence required to fubflantiate each. The argument of thole who oppofed the mo tion, however, went to this, that this ufage pf our an• cellars, of trial by impeachment in Weßminller Hall, was imprafticable, and ought no longer to be conti. nued. As to expence, we had heard enough on that fabled. When the expenditure of millions, connected with our poffeffions abroad, was propofed to be in quired into, we were attempted to be deterred by the expence of paper and printing. When our abufes at home were fought to be chaltifed, then the expellee of feaffolding and of wooden benches was to be held up as an obilacle to the inveffigation. Such, how ever, he hoped fhould never operate in this country, but that it would always be found, that the belt mode of avoiding ruin, and of infuring profperity, would be to (pare neither trouble nor expence in inveßigating and bringing to juftice every fpecies of delinquency. As to the expence to the Noble Lord, he hoped it would be (mall. He knew nothing of the fitnation of the Noble Lord's affairs, but, whether acquitted or condemned, that might be the fabled of after in quiry and confideration. This was not here the mid tion. The only objea at prefent was the attainment of fubltautial juffice. Mr. ROSE faid, that he had voted for the impeach. ment in preference to a trial in an inferior Court ; but he had then imagined it would be conduOed at the Bar of the Houfe of Lords, after the precedent of Lord Macclesfield. Every end of public jcltice would in that way be obtained in a fifth part of the time. He thought the Noble Lord had fpoken in too defponding a tone of the finances of the country. In his opinion, the refonrces of the country were abun dant, and fully Ilifficient to meet every exigenfe. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE QUER, in explanation, (aid, that he had not fpolten in gloomy language of the financial profpeas of the country. He had raid, that die country could only be ruined by a want of principle in thole who direded its refources. Mr. wHITBRE4II Paid, he had a great refped for the line of condo& adopted by Mr. R. Dundas in the courfe of thefe proceedings ; but he could not but obferve, that all the force of his arguments to night, relied on the expence and vexatious haraffings to which a trial in Wellminiter Hall would expoTe the Defendant. For his own part, he was very far from wifhinglto vex, or to harafs any man, but with. ed this trial to be concluded with all that folemnity and publicity which obtained for Britifh jullice that charader which it now jußly maintained throughout the world. He feared, that if the Gentlemen opprifile to him were allowed to carry their principle as far as they now propofed, the next Rep they would take was to thut up public courts altogether, and give the preference to private tribunals, over all public courts of Mice. (Loud crier of no !no from the Oppetios, and .f hear ! hear ! from the fifinArialfsdet of the houji.) By the fame means, they might entity get rid of impeachments altogether. But furely, when they moved to reverie the vote for a criminal profecution, and propofed •the impeachment inftead of it, they had, for they muff have had, all the expence againtt which they now fo vehemently declaimed, in their contemplation at the moment (cheers of hear, hear I) Trials of impeachment is Wettminiler Hall, were. at all times, the uniform pratice of Parliament ; and the only exception to it was the cafe of Lord Mac. elesfield, which had been fo often referred to. That trial would have been, perhaps, equally as Mort in Weltminiter Hall, as it was at the Bar of the Hnufe of Lords ; becaufe that Nobleman took few or no exceptions to the queilions put to witneffes, as was done in the trial of Mr. Hailing., which was always the great caufc of delay, hecaufe they obliged the Lords to retire each time, tor the purple of dehbe• rating and dividing on them. But even at that time, though the Lords determined for a trial at that Bar, it . was the occafion of many firong protefts —from one of which he read an extrati, Containing many of the arguments againft fuch trials, which were reforted to in the prefent debate. The Right llonotirable Gentleman (Mr. Role) laid, he thought a trial at the Bar of the Houle of Lords would be more public than one in Wetiminfter Hall, which 1 was very firange, as that chamber could not contain all the Members of that Houle, who would think it their duty to attend the trial. It w a s true the Houk ' of Lords had been tonfiderably enlarged time the time of Lord Macclesfield ; but the nothber of the. Lords had all, fince very much increafed, as mutt be clearly within the knowledge of that Right Ho nourable Gentleman. However, fo far was Lord Macclesfield's trial from deferving the name of being a public one, that one of the Managers was at that time fo feverely bruifed in the crowd, that he died of it on the following day. The Right Honourable Gentleman laid, that he was always a friend to in quinies into abufes. It may be fo ; but of this be was certain, that the Right Honourable Gentleman uniformly voted againft them (hearing a cry of No, ! from the oppofite fide of the Houfe, Mr. Whit. bread anfwered, " but I fay res. Ter !)" Being then called to order from the Chair, he proceeded to (tam that he was lorry for any trefpafs he might have made upon order, but thought himfelf julhified is oblerving, that the irregularity did not begin with him. The Right Honourable Gentleman not only. voted *gala! all fuch inquiries, but alto voted origi nally *gam& this impeachment, by dividing . in fur .port of previous, queftion moved upon st ; and , only voted for it afterwards, for the purpofe of get ting rid of the criminal profecution ; for his owe part, he was ready to go to any expence that the sc. carton Might call for. As to' what was faid of get ting tickets from Lords, be thoug ht little of tbst era gement, as the Peers would certa inly have more an. amity in their own Chamber, than they could well ezercife in Weeminber Hall. The -Honourable Ciendeman who opened the debate referred to him, as knowing the eireundlances of Lard tsfelvilfe.. It certainly happened that, in dm geode of their ism& ligation, a number of Aims MELO/ l i t:=o2: of the Committee, which ewe tot • them to be informed oft bat be !wee them ; he did not want to know them ti ll it il a i re mean at any time to fpeak of time ; fa that. in fad, he was not acquainted with Lord Melville's private circusallances. If this fort of plea woe admittaa, there never would be an impeachment or prokcution —for any man may fay, " It is not fair to proftente me, for lam too poor to defend." Upon the whole the belt fecurity that could be had for public was folemnity and publicity in their proceedings. It was faid, that Lord Macclesfield, though tried at the Bar of the Peers, was a man of fo high a chaniaer, as to hive been Lord High Chancellor, and was ac cured of crimes of the did magnitude ; but fo alto was Lord Melt ilk, at the time of his delinquency, ha the high office Of Fiat Lord of the Admiralty, and charged with Coffering others to. peculate, and with being a participator in it Maga This, therefore, would be a trial requiring the ntmoft publicity, as there was not a man in the kingdom who was not intereded in it. If Lord Melville were innocent, it was but jailice to him that it fhould be made as Ma-- nifett as poffible ; and, on the other hand, if he were guilty, it was right that he thould be pronounced fo, in the face of the affembled nation. In conclolioo, he faid, that he was convinced the trial could not lafk long. as he knew it to be the with of the Managers to curtail it as much as was confident with the ends of public jutlice. Mr. WILLIAM DUNDAS faid that he had .liftened in vain with a view to hear any effential Tee. fon of juftice or expediency urged, why the .trial Amid take place in Weftminfter Hall rather thanat the Bar of the Houk of Lords. As to the Chancel. for of the Exchequer, he only armted in favour 'Ache impeachment generally. He (Mr. Punaas) did not fay that there ought to be no impeachment but hq contended that it was the effeece of jultice that it Ihould not be dilatory. Every perfon, as an Hop. Friend of his bad obferved, was to be peefunsed in. Ilecent till he was found guilty. He, therefore, for the prefent, preformed that Lord Melville was Mao. cent ; and in this view, the mode of proceeding now propoled would bring the punilliment of guilt on en innocent perfon. He did not confider titian: a party queftion. but Aced, whether it was jug or geoerous that a perfon who, (cuing the prefent affair gide, had rendered effential fervice to the country, and lee therefore entitled to its gratitude, Gould, by the enormous expence to which he would be eapofed, be configned for the remainder of his life to want arid poverty ? The Noble Lord (Henry Petty),_ mod dm Honourable Gentleman who fpoke tall, had sdvert• ed to the old mode of proceeding, and to the trial of Mr. Hahhings ; but was there a lawyer in Welhninder Hall who did not confider that trial as an almmie noble difgrace ? The Judge Advoaaa, is peePtifieiC a criminal information, had argued refpeaiag this abomination, this foul Risme, with the greeted do. quence. Why was he not here today to ibpport his `argument ? He concluded by again aflaing, whether it was confident with juftice or geowofity to bring a brad of es pence on the thoulders of the aceufed, which, whether innocent or guilty, would weigh him down to the earth ? Mr. PERCEVAL would not detain the Houle many minutes (there we: a cry for the gwiion). Bot he had a public duty to perform in laying fomething upon this quetlion. If one circumilance had beers mentioned which could prove that the trial fhould take place in Weftminfler Hall rather than at the bar of the Houfe of Lords, then indeed he might per haps have been filent, but as none fuch had been mentioned, he trolled the Houle would be open to receive any impreffions that might be expetted to be made by the arguments of his Hon. Friend. It was laid that he and his friends were incenfident in hav ing &ft wifbed for the Impeachment, and then en deavouring to have it eondufted at the bar of the Houk of Lords. Where was the inconfiftency ? They 'tithed for Impeachment Rill in preference to information, but they waited at the fame time that it lhould be carried on in the manner kilt oppreffive to the individual acctifed. Was there any novelty in having the Imoeachment at the Bar of the Houle of Lords? No—for the trial of Lord Macclesfield was condiolted in this manner. But even if there had been no inftance of this kind he would have been defirous of introducing that novelty, becaufe he thought that coorfe the molt proper which united the eliential at tainment of juftice with the haft oppreffioo to the ~'. indil city had Is' bad eds His ac.l wii W f V G I .2 -al pert adol felt I t u eau defl eta bee tat bia ,Cur old tin for to Ge at ths the fof pr 4 N. bll P`'