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Smith, Butler, Hemmings, Paulo, Mrs Fitswilliam, and Miss Apjohn. UNIVERSITY OF LONDON. NGLISFI LAW.—Professor AMOS will commence his COURSE, with an Introductory Lecture, on MONDAY, the 2d of November, at half-past Six o'Clock. 'rickets may be had at Mr. Taylor's, 30, Upper Gower Street. The Lectures will be given on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, at the same {miff. Fee—XS to Nominees, and X 6 Ss. to non-Nominees. JURISPRUDENCE. Professor AUSTIN wiU commence this Course on TUES- DAY, the 17th November, at balf.past Si: o'Clock, and the Lec tures wiU be continued every Tuesday and Thursday at the same hour. Fee--. 84 to Nominees of Proprietors, and XS to others. The Law Library is open from 10 a. m. to 9p. m. By Order of the Council, THOMAS COATES, Clerk. University of London, Oct. 24, 1829. CITY-ROAD. EXTENSIVE SALE of excellent modern New and Second-band HOUSEHOLD FURNITURE, Bagatelle Boards, Invalid Wheel Machines, Garden and Rustic Seats and Flower Stands, Cabinet and Square Piano-fortes, a Paper Ruling Machine, Children's Chaise' and Waggons, and numerous other Effects; being the remaining part of the STOCK of Messrs. INGRAM and SON, which will be SOLD by AUCTION, By Mr. PHILLIPS, On the Premises, RUSTIC-HOUSE, 29, CITY-ROAD, NEAR FINSBURY-SQUARE, On TUZIDAY, the 5d ; WILDNESDAY, the 4th ; and Tumulus', the sth of November, 1849, at Twelve o'clock, Without the least reserve, in consequence of intended alterations in the Premises. May be viewed one day previous, and morning of Sale. Ca talogues may be had on the Premises, and of Mr. R. Phillips, Auctioneer and Appraiser, No. 35, Chimell-street, Finsbury square. BOOKS PUBLISHING. On the 21st of November will be published, In three yob. l 2mo , with 14 Plates, price Te. bound in cloth, A NNAISof the PENINSULAR CAMPAIGNS, from 1808 to 1814, By the Author of CYRIL THORNTON. Printed for William Blackwood, Edinburgh; and T. Cadell, Strand, London. Of whom may be bad. THE YOUTH and MANHOOD of CYRIL THORNTON. Second Edition. 3 vols. 12me, X 1 Is. On the 21st of November will be published. in One Volume Bvo. price 10s. Gd. HISTORY of the PROGRESS and SUPPRES SION of the REFORMATION in SPAIN in the SIX TEENTH CENTURY. By THOMAS WORM, D.D. Printed for William Blackwood, Edinburgh ; and T. Cadell, Strand, London. Of whom may be had, by the same Author, 1. HISTORY of the PROGRESS and SUPPRESSION of the REFORMATION in ITALY during the SIXTEENTH CENTURY ; including a Sketch of the History of the Reforma tion in the Grisons. t,o. 10s. 6d. 2. The LIFE of JOHN KNOX. Two vols. (two. (♦ new Edition preparing.) 3. The LIFE of ANDREW MELVILLE. Second Edition. Two vols. 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Printed fir William Blackwood, Edinburgh; and T. Cadell, Strand, London. This day was published, price ss. 6d. No. VII. or 91HE QUARTERLY JOURNAL of AGRICUL TURE, and the PRIZE ESSAYS and TRANSACTIONS of the HIGHLAND SOCIETY of SCOTLAND. CoNrierts.— T. I. On the Agriculture of the fluenons.—.H. On the Acclimating of Planu. By John J. Bushman, Esq.—lll. On the Origin and • Natural Ilistory of the Horse 'and its allied species. By James Esq. F.R.S.E. M. W.S. ite.—l V. On an Improved Use of Nucor... By John Mac inure, F.sq.-s-V. Oa an Elastic or Spring Shoe. By Thnmas Whyte, Esq.—Vl. On striking Fiars for Cade, Sheep, and Wool.—Vll. On Summer Fallow.—Vlll. On Bone Nl.tnure.—lirport of the Doncaster Agricultural Asso. elation —IX. On lieelsimtng and Colonising the Bogs and Wastes of Ireland.—Various works.—X. •On the Lease (Concluded). — XI. Aliscclistiettus Notices.— XII. Quarterly Agricultural Re port.—Xlll. T..hles of the Average Prices of the different kinds of Grain, Butchersnir4, and Wool, at various places.—XlV. Foreign Corn Markets. 11. I. Preliminary Notice.—ll. Essay on the present State of the Highl..nslo and Wands of Scotland; By John Anderson, Esti Description of a RoadsLeselter. Communicated by James Hunter, Esq. of Thurston.--IV. Description of an Im provement in the Coustructiou of the Aides and Naves of the, Wheels of Waggons' for Ithltvays. Invented' by James Alrd ilnd • James Dunlop. ar Ayr Colliery.-s-V.'OW eheeoltore of Potatoes in the District of Cantyre. Communicated by John Li Stewart, Eq.—V'l. Account of the Drainage of certain Farms on the Estate id Falkland. Printed fni Wm. Blackwood; Edinburgh; T. Cadell, London; anal W. Curry, Jun. and Cu. Dublin. FRIDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 30, 1829. INDIAN ARMY. Having published the Memorials from Sir A. Macleod and General Nicols, for the better understanding the pro gress of the proceeding, we now publish Lord Comber mere's second and third letter to the Governor-General at the time he forwarded these Memorials. MOND Unlit OF LORD CONSERMIIIII TO THE GOVERNOR. ', Adjutant-General's Mice, 17th January, 1829. " Sra—l have it in command from his Excellency the Right Hon. the Commander-in-Chief, to request you will submit to the Right Hon. the Governor-General in Council the inclosed letter from Brigadier Sir A. Macleod, commanding the Artillery, with the separate paper, to which is annexed the signature of the Officers at Huns Dum. " I. His Excellency, in his Address to the Governor-General of the 11th ult. availed himself of the first opportunity of fully expres sing his sentiments on the .subject of the proposed deductions ; and the opinion then deliberately offered to his Lordship in Coon di having undergone no change from the publication of the Govern ment Order of the 29th November, his Lordship hesitates not in requesting the serious attention of Government to the respectful and manly spirit in which a large proportion of the officers of a gallant and distinguished corps have urged the consideration of tiShe justice of which it is difficult, in his Excellency's judg nits;to deny. " 5. Deeply as the Commander-in-Chief laments that it should not have been thought advisable once more to suspend the opera tion of orders, which, on the fullest consideration, had twice been pronounced impracticable, he is impressed with the conviction that the interests affected by the Governor-General's decision could have been secondary to no consideration but a strong sense of pub lic duty, involving the principle of obedience to the reiterated orders of legitimate authority. " 4. If, however, his Lordship in Council should now deem it expedient to deliberate on this first appeal of a part of the offi cers of the army to an indulgent but important consideration of their claims, their wants, and their disappointed hopes, bis Lordship, I am commanded to acquaint you, will assure the Governor-General, being persuaded that a nearer view of the feelings and interests under discussion would change the ap. parently fixed opinion of the home authorities, he will gladly incur an ample Aber, of the responsibility which would be the conse quence of Government thinking proper to accede to the request since submitted to it. " 5. I am further commanded to desire that you will submit to the Right Hon. the Governor-General, that in the earnet.tness with which a painful interesting subject has been urged nn his attention his Excellency the Commander-in-Chief has not per mitted considerations connected with personal feelings, howevet intrusive suck feelings may have been, to blend themselves with his views of justice and policy. Anxious to make known to Go vernment the claims the necessities, and the certain and impend ing difficulties of the army he commands, he has endeavoured for a moment to forget that he witnessed the gallantry of that army—that he has shared its dangers, and that to its exertions and exploits he is indebted for some of the honours which his Sove reign has graciously been pleased to confer on him. (Signed) " C. FAGAN, Adjutant-Gen. " To the Secretary to Government." " Sta—l have the honour to forward Memorials from Major. General Sir J. Nicola, &c. &c. " His Excellency having, on two distinct occasions submitted to his Lordship, in Council, his sentiments on the policy, the jus tice, and the tendency of these orders, can but repeat how sin cerely he laments that there should he such cause for the deep toned feelings of distress and alarm which pervade the representa tions to which they have given rise. (Signed) " C. FAGAN, Adjt.-Gen. " To the Secretary of the Government." THE ESTABLISHED CHURCH IN IRELAND. ( From the Dublin Evening Mail. TO THE EDITOR OF THE EVENING MAIL. Sir—As my consent to the publication of the correspondence which I have had the honour of holding with the Earl of Mount cashel was given in the accompanying letter, I was much surprised to find that it had not been sent for publication with those which have already appeared in your Paper ; you will oblige me by in• setting it now.—l ant, Sir, your obedient Servant. Palace, Ferns, Oct. 23. TO TIII ItAILL OT Palace, Ferns, Oct. 12, 1829. My Lord—l have to acknowledge the honour of receiving your Lordship's letter of the Sth inst. and shall be gratified by appear ing before the public as your Lordship's correspondent on a sub ject of such importance, for the further elucidation of which I subjoin some observations which are necessary to its being fully understood. Your Lordship commences by observing that, as there was but one opinion In the meeting as to the doctrines of our Church, you cannot discover the danger I forebode from its proceedings. To this I reply, that the persons who composed the meetings at which Petitions to Parliament were framed in 1628 and the subsequent years, were perfectly at unity among themselves as to doctrine, and perfectly confident that their doctrines were those of the Church of England, yet their proceedings led to the overturning that Church Establishment, and to all the evil consequences which I have stated in my former letter. Your Lordship proceeds to observe, that " imperfections have existed, and still continue to exist, In our Church, and that the time has come fur remedying those abuses." I admit that imperfections do exist, and that, though no system administered by men will ever be free from imperfections, ytt it Is nevertheless our duty to use our best endeavours to diminish, tho' we cannot hope entirely to remove, them. But what I contend for is, that the holding a Lay Syn 4 is not a proceeding likely to re medy any imperfections which may exist; but, on the contrary, tends manifestly to reproduce all the evils which attended the overthrow of the Churdh establishment '2OO years ago, and which led to all the heresies and schisms of that fatal period, and mainly contributed to the murder of the King, and to the placing Crom well upon the throne of England. And my apprehensions are founded upon the perfect similarity which exists between the pro ceedings at the meeting in Cork, and those with which the Re formers in the seventeenth century, then calling themselves friends to the Church of England, commenced their work. Your Lordship claims for the Laity " the sante tight of speaking upon religious subjects, that clergymen have on political ones." I enter not into the question of abstract rights. Illy argument is limited to this, that the mode in which the right of speaking upon religious subjects to follow your Lordship's form of ex. prestion, was exercised at the late meeting in Cork, is likely to do much mischief, and that the statements there made are not supported by facts. Your Lordship proceeded to say, " that there was little in your speech Intended exclusively for Ireland." Permit me to observe, that I did not enter Into any discussion as to the inten tions of your Lordship's speech t I only stated, that whatever they were, the whole, of the • speech • would be considered as limited . to • Irtlasml, eirtlefer.to the English papers, and I might add the Irish, in ikignPMr"My opinion was correct. The dif ference betwessi .atactioikches in England and in Ireland has been strongly.' Insisied 'upon,' and the lime of the di4alrecied papers (I will not abuse language by calling them liberal, but - will give them their proper name) chews that the plan is to found upon the proceedings at Cork an attack upon the Establishment in Ire land, in the first instance. It does not require the skill in conduct ing revolutionary movements, which the party managing those papers possess, to perceive that their hopes of success would be destroyed by making the attack upon both Establishments at once. In Ireland the declared object of the leader of the Popish party is to put down the Established Church. The whole strength and sub tlety of that party will be exerted to support him in the attempt. They will endeavour to raise up a Puritan party here in the ninetentls century as they did in England in the seventeenth. Your Lordship Is aware of the method they adoptt-d to elect that purpose. You are aware that Missionaries were sent into England Instructed to assume the character of Puritans, who, while by exercising their talents (gifts, as they called them, in the language of the sect to which they joined themselves) of extem pore preaching and praying, they acquired influence, and artfully exercised that Influence to foment discontent against the Established Church, under pretence of complaints against abuses, and the plies of Reform. A particular detail of their organization is given in the letters of Bishop Brambal and of Sir Wm. Boswell, in Pan's Life 41 Privilege Umber. Care will be taken, on the present occasion, to represent the case of the Establishment in Ireland as entirely differ ent from that in England. This representation will be supported by the Popish party in England, by Dissenters in that country of all denominations, and that toe numerous class of men who have no re ligion at all. What use will be made of the proceedings at Cork is apparent. They ate regarded as exclusively applicable to Ireland. If an attempt were made to represent them, as intended, to apply also to England, the idea that the inhabitants of a remote part of this country should presume to think that they were competent to such a discussion, or of sufficient consequence to make their opinions re garded, would be scoffed at with contempt. Thus will the busi ness proceed, till. unless Penmen' opens the eyes of those who are unconsciously co.operating with our enemies, the establishment of our ( hutch in this part of the Empire shall have been broken in upon, and then the attack in England will commence wild a pros pect of success, which must make the most confident tremble. Your Lordship next observes, that " it cannot be denied that the practice of appointing Bishops from political motives has ez• feted." That Bishops have been appointed from political motives no one denies. But your Lordship's statement went much farther. Your Lordship said, " that the appointment to a Bishopric in this country was generally the result of political motives—of a bargain between the Minister and the prison possessed of the greatest Par. liamentary interest." In these words the practice is represented as still continuing, and as being almost constant ; and against the assertion thus made my reply was directed, and I am happy to find that the statement made in that reply cannot be controverted. Your Lordship goes on to say, that " the state of Great Britain is now different from what it was about the year 1628." Un doubtedly it is. But the difference consists in this, that Great Britain, and, still more, Ireland, is in a state infinitely more revo lutionary than in 1628. Nay, that the state of all Europe is revo lutionary. The danger, therefore, of attacking Establishments is much greater than it was at that time. I have not argued in favour of bearing evils without attempting to remedy them ; but I have übjeuted to flying to ►emedies which threaten worse evils than those of which we complain. Not evils which we know not of, but which we know and can point nut, and prove by experience to hay* arisen from modes of proceeding similar to that at the Cork meeting. The 'abuses which did formerly exist are, as Is well known, under a rapid progress of correction. The tenour of your Lord ship's speech was to prove that they were creeping in, to use the words of one of the resolutions—that is, that tbey are in a pro. gress of increase, and that some extraordinary mode of stopping that progress had become necessary. I deny the premise, and confidently assert that even were it true, it should have led to a proceeding very different indeed from that adopted at Cork. Your Lordship had it in your power to communicate with the Bishops in England and in Ireland. Your communications would have been freely and frankly replied to. If unsatisfactorily, then the Minister could not refuse to discuss the subject with your Lordship. Nay, the right of demanding an audience of the King is amongst the privileges which your Lordship enjoys. Had ne hope appeared after all these means had been tried, then might there have been some excuse for the mode adopted by your Lord ship—an appeal to the people—for such, in fact, it is. The danger attending such an appeal, apparent in i:s baying already called into action the worst passions of the worst eagles of the community, should prevent its ever being made except in cases of the most ex ti the necessity. And I cannot help here observing, that muc► caution appears to have been observed by the persons employed to give notice of the meeting at Cork. Not a dissentient voice was heard at it, a circumstance which at once excites suspicion. I write not, however, merely upon that suspicion. I know that bad the notice been public, the resolutions would have teen opposed, and that with an ability against which none of your Lordship's supporters would have been able to contend. Your Lordship observes that " the wall of partition has been pulled down by the Lords spiritual as well as temporal." Surely your Lordship forgets that a great majority of the Bishops in Par. liament voted against pulling down that wall. Surely your Lord ship must be aware that of the two•aad.twenty Iri►h Bishops, sixteen gave it all the opposition in their power. And surely it ought not to be forgotten, in a case where all the Clergy of the Establishment are concerned, that the opposition of the Clergy both in Engl •nd and in Ireland to the pulling down that wall was little less than universal. That topic, therefore, cannot serve your Lordship's argument. But in truth the conduct of the Bishops and Clergy on the question alluded to, ought not to have bad any influence upon proceedings such as those of which we are treating. With respect to unions, your Lordship observes that I asked in my letter " to what good end can it now tend to complain of the abuse which Bishops may have once made of their power of unit ing parishes?" And to this question, so stated, you give a very obvious answer. But allow me to request that your Lordship will look again at my letter; and you will see that this is an imper fect statement of my question, the important words, " when your Lordship knows that they have no longer the power of uniting them," being omitted. To the question thus completed, I believe that no answer can be given. Your Lordship appears to think that two parishes should never be united ; but to my observation, that many parishes are so small that not only they could not support a Church s•r a Clergyman, but that they did not require a separate Establishment for their spiritual aid. Of this sort are very many of these in cur unions. Witness the two parishes mentioned by the Bishop of Limerick, in his speech on the Tithe Composition Bill—both of them in the City of Cork. The Ukiah 'newspapers have taken up this subject, and have asserted ihat every parish in Ireland is able to maintain a Clergy =MS. ryas endeavouring to make it he believed that we in this midst* aid•not suffer Church spoliation as England did. But your 'Lordship cannot but be aware that the tithe* in lay hands in Ireland' are' equal 'to one half of the tithes which remain with the Clergy. This is indeed notorious. If proof were called for, we have it in Mr. poster's evidence before the Committee PRICE `I'..':..NPEN!'!.•. on the state of Ireland four or five years ago. Your Lordship is also aware that the glebes of more than one half of Coe parishes in Ireland have shared the fate of those tithes that It become impropriate, and fallen into the hands of laymen; for it must be known to your Lordship that every parish lasel a L.. he allotted to it at its original establishment, and the document,. t which you have it in your power to refer, prove that not one half of the parishes now have them. The want of Churches, attd of resident Clergymen, has been met by its proper remedy, .11,1 since the Union SOO Churches have been built, 54 are now build lug, and 99 have been enlarged ; and within the same petiod 51 9 glebe houses have been built, and 27 are now building. No: has it been for want of exertion on the part of the Bishops o. the Clergy, that the number has not been much greater, but (run , want of funds, no grant having been made by Parliament to the Board of First Fruits for some years, which has so im peded the progress of those desirable objects, that not one-tenth of the applications which have been made within that period could he complied with. As to the Act relative to Curate's salaries, to which your Lord. *hip objects as being insufficient, because some Rectors still do not pay fud salaries to their Curates, I beg leave to remark that uo law can be framed that would afford a stronger sanction or give more effectual proLction to Curates than that which makes void, as the present Act does, all bargains in evasions of the salaries to which it entitles them. The Curate brings his nomination to the Bishop, in which his salary it stated. Ii he does that, knowing the state ment to be false, what possible advantage could arise from a re peated inquiry into its truth ?—None, surely ; but, dm the contrary, the evil of throwing a suspicion upon the conduct of the whole body of the clergy. If the individual who, after producing such a document, submits to receive a smaller salary than be had ac knowledged was granted to him, were asked whether in producing that document he had deceived the Bishop, is it to be supposed that he would hesitate at repeating the deception? The law pro vides the Curate with complete protection. If he will not use it, where can a remedy be found to protect him from himself? With respect to clerical income., I stated that they were de signed to induce men to enter into the Church with the hope that it would afford them a maintenance, and eventually a competence or even affluence." And your Lordship asks, " are these the mo tives that ought to induce men to take holy orders ?" I really did not think it possible that your Lotsiship could have thus ntis-stated what I said. You have omitted an entire sentence, immediately following the wards you have quoted. It runs thus—" Viewed in this light, and setting aside all higher motives for adopting the profession, as being perfectly uncon nected with the secular interest now under consideration." These words contain a complete answer to your Lordship's question above stated, and it might have been expected that they would have prevented such a question—l will refrain from giving it any epithet—from being asked. Nor had I a doubt that when your Lordship's attention was turned to the subject, you would at once have seen that secular inducements were in tended to operate upon others besides the individuals actually en gaging in the clerical profession. That they were necessary to in duce parents to go to the expense of giving to their children such an education as would qualify them for the duties of the Ministry. If such inducements did not exist, where should we find persons duly qualified? With respect to Bishops-running their lives against leases, in order to benefit their families, the question has been lolly discussed in the Bishop of Limerick's speech, already referred to ; and Mr. Foster has stated, in the evidence which I have bad occasion to quote, that the Bishop would, under the present laws, be a loser by the attempt. That instances may have occurred formerly Ido net doubt, though they must have been rare, as no Bishop could live upon the rents of his estate. The project of forfeiting the reversionary interest of the Bishop's tenants, an interest the value of which must be obvious from the notoriety of their being allowed eight per cent. compound intetest on their fines, and those fines calculated upon moderate valuations, would be such an invasion of private property as I can designate by no other name than that I gave it in my former letter. Your Lordship states, that " I have one grand object before my eyes, what was most for the interest of a favoured portico of the Clergy, while you were looking to the spiritual wants of the people." My Lord, I call upon you to point out the part of my letter upon which you found this monstrous charge. I demand it. There is nu part of that letter which has any connection with the subject except that which relates to the incomes of the Clergy ; and on re ferring to my letter your Lordship will find that I view those ir. comes only as they may be the means of inducing a class of perigees to enter into orders who are educated men, and as such calculated to be useful Ministers in the Church. I argue against an equal dis tribution of those incomes on the ground of its tendency to diminish the number of well qualified Ministers. What is there In this that can support the accusation made against me of considering only the Clergy, and disregarding their con gregations? What but the spiritual wants of the people am I considering, when providing that the Clergy shall be duly qualified ? Your Lordship states, that the number of Clergymen is inade quate, and you form your calculation upon the wants of a popula tion of seven millions. Let me ask. would your Lordship think it usefUl at :his moment to have Clergymen in IrelanJ as numerous as will be wanted when the whole population is Protestant? Surely that would not be advantageous, even were it possible. seems to me clear that the object to be kept in view is to in crease the number of Clergymen and the number of Churches, so as fully to supply the wants of the congregations we can collect, and to meet every increase that may be added to the congregation as quickly as it arises. This course has been pursued, since the Union, with as much speed as our means afforded, and 1 3 11071DM/ Wiii, I trust, ere long, enlarge our means to what they were till the assistance of Parlia ment wis withheld. In obtaining a renewal of that assistance we might have been aided by the Laity with decisive effect bin they thnusht fit, under your Lordship's guidance, to pur►ue a different course. A considerable cumber of Churches is waited, as is evident from the number of applications for aid wbicl► now lie before the Board of First Fruits; and that want shows that Clvrzymen :No are Named, and therefore I agree with your Lordship that the number of Clergymen is inadequate, but I differ widely i;;deed as to the extent of that want. Of that inadequacy your Lordship cites the ignorance of the lower order of Protestants, and the increase of crime, as proof.. That crime has increased among the Protestants in Irel,nd I cer tainly entertain very strong doubts. Looking to the number or criminals executed that are Protestants, 1 more than doubt—l dis believe. That ignorance amongst the lower order of Protestants has dimi nished during the period to which I have to often referred, the time elapsed since the Union, and that in a degree greater than cuuld have•been expected, I am perfectly certain. I shall confine my self to one proof, as being connected with the exertions of the THOMAS FERNS.