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COMPANY of HERCHAA TS V ENGLAND, trading to Vie SASTAYDDIS, de keret*, give Notice, Tbatthe QUARTERLY GENERAL COURT of the said compare appointed to be heed at their House, in Leadenhail. meet, rA Ranesszus, the 20th instant, is made SPECIAL, for tibe mot ( . 1 (104 before the Proprietor*, for their approbation, an sm i l leillesolution of the Court of Directors of • the 25d #llli&sa4=6.4o;mancamenisime^alloga Rir leacasaau; CADErmr., c.c.s 0 , t he 'rounds tin-rebel/Me& Ile Report required •by the. Dy-Lair, cap. 6, um 19,- together eel the documents upon which the said Resolotios has been k, r ds,i, are open for the Inspection of she Proprieton at this House. JOSEPH DART, Secretory. • EAST INDIA HOUSE, April SS, 1827. THE COURT qf DIRECTORS of the UNITED COMPANY e MERCHANTS o f ENGLAND, trading t. St BAT INDIES, do hereby give Notice, 'Dot a QUARTERLY GENERAL COURT of the said COMPANY, will be held at their House, in Leadenball-street, pa WEDNESDAY, the 90th of Jane neat, at Eleven o'Clock in the Forenoon, for the purpose of declaring a Dividend from Mantas last to Midsummer seat. That thr TRANSFER BOOKS of the said COMPANY'S STOCK will be SHUT on THURSDAY, the 7th of June rest, at T h ree o'Clock ; and opened again on THURSDAY, the lath of July tollowing. Aod that the DIVIDEND WARRANTS on the said COM PANY'S STOCK, due on the sth of July, will be ready to be &riveted on FRIDAY, the 6th of July next. JOSEPH DART, Secretary. LMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, JURE Sir A. GRANT, and others from the Commons, brought up the IA Crown Lands Revenue Bill, the Great Britain and Ireland Nerabodied Militia Bill, the Pensions Duties Bill, the Public sor►s BM, the Game Certificates Bill, and a great number of Pri nts Bills, which were read a first time. Mr. SPILLER presented the third Report of the Commis- Sows fur Building Churches in the Highlands of Scotland.—Laid oldie table. _ . . _ _ _ Lard KING presented a Petition from Robert Gourley spied that chu.e in the Larceny Statutes Consolidation Bill, which gives a discretionary power.—Laid on the table. The Varl of KINGSTON presented a Petition from the Cathe lics al a parish in the county of Cork for Emancipation.—Laid en the table. CROWN LTA 111. Lord TEYNHAM moved for Returns of the num• her of applications fur the renewal of Leases for Crown Lands refused by the Comm;ssioners for Woods and Forests, hom 182) to 1826 inclusive. The Noble Lord said, that the particular case which he had in •iew re• fated to the refusal of an application for a renewed lease of the Spring•garden Chapel. The Earl of CARLISLE had no objection to pro duce the Returns, bat wished the motion to be narrowed to the particular cases, which the Noble Lord had in view. With respect to the Spring-garden Chapel, an application had been made by the populous parish of 54114,6'4 for a site on which to build a Chapel, andl the Commissioners of Woods and Forests had recom mended that particular site as fit for the purpose. This was the reason that the application for the renewal of the lease had been refused. After a few words between the two Noble Peers, Lord Tant a/it withdrew his motion. Lad REDESDA LE brought in a Bill for the better regulation of &skill !louses, the chief object of which was to compel them cote a year to balance their accounts, in order p.) ascertain the amount of their fends and their solvency.—Read a first time, and ordered to be printed. POOR LAWS IN IRELAND. Earl CARBERRY had three Petitions to present, respecting the propriety r.f making a provision by law for certain descriptions of Poor in Ireland. Last August the distress experienced amongst the lower classes had been so great at Cork, notwithstanding the amount of ♦oluntary contribati , ins, that a Meeting bad been called by the Mayor. A variety of opinions had been expressed, but the majority was in favour of a Petition to their Lordships for Parliamentary inter ference. This Petition, however, having been signed by the Mayor only, had been sent back to him, and vas now returned with additional signatures. It had come accompanied by two Petitions from Parishes in the same City, of a different tendency, which he also intended to present. The Noble Earl then took a view of the great increase of the population in Ireland.— He stated that in thirty-two counties, there were but six Houses of Industry for the Poor, and that the whole of the money raised throughout the country to give them permanent relief, was only 46.0001. lo some of the Hou,es of Industry where 3,0681. were allotted for the support of 700 individuals, 1,000 were some times placed, and none of them were allowed to stay more than two or three months. In fact the resident Gentry and their tenantry paid in alms a larger sum than would be required if a regular provision for "'tam classes was established by law. The Noble Earl then presented the Petition, which prayed " for tne introduction of Poor Laws, or other provisions is Ireland." The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that an end had been put to the emigrations of beggars to the north of lielanO, by the establishment of houses of lodustr y. For when they found that they received nothing but what those houses provided, and that they mutt even work to obtain it, they made as short a stay as pnssible. an ir,teed of spending their money, as when they used i "'ell) to get it, in alehouses, th y hastened away to a dilicte:-.t part of the country. In this manner beg gainni entirely ceased in the county of Dowse, and t t the s , me system were adopted in the South, similar results might be anticipated. He hoi,ed, that when a NobleNldiTiis (L.lntdown) who new e n j o y e d otit.m tam knicate, should accept of an office connected with d O W ' OOP/ it SO it 10 S h lkof 441 Q • 0 • 10 10 r. TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 19, 1827, that country, the people of Ireland would receive the benefit for which they looked up to him .from his great talents. The Petition having been read, on the motion of the Earl of Kimonos 1 1 The Earl of LIMERICK expressed his opinion that the introduction of Poor Lawsinto Ireland, where in the course of 140 years land had been confiscated five and six times over, would act like a still worse system of confiscation, and would create one aggravated scene of misery, pauperism, and beggary. With potatoes and Poor Laws, Ireland would, in a short time, have seveti• teen instead of seven millions of inhabitants, and'where should food and employment be found for them ? He understood that his Friend's object was to move for a Committee of inquiry ; but was it on the 18th of June that such a motion should be made with a view to utility? Lord FARNHAM supported the general principle Of pomeprovisiouyeinz made for the aged and infirm in Ireland; &inked whether the good pioduced by e 'Union had countfrbalanced the evil ereated.by call ing away ilroost all its great proprietors to thifeoditry. Their sins were e ducated here ;they formed their early habits and associations in England, and could not bear to live in their own country. Was it astonishing, then, that a people who knew their landlords only by the tact of paying them their rent, should be in a state of dissatisfaction? The Earl of DUZZICZ explalnei. Earl DARNLEY should not advocate the introduc tion of the present English Poor Laws into Ireland, but as established under Queen Elizabeth they were widely different. And even with all their abuses England bad become the moet flourishing country upon earth, whilst Ireland, without them, had been a sink of misery and pauperism. He hoped his Noble friend would bring forward the question early next Session; and pledged himself to do so, if his Noble Friend, or a more expe rienced Pe.-r, did not take the subject into their own hands. Viscount GODERICH was at once sensible of the importance and difficulties of the subject. He doubted how far their Lordships would draw an inference in favour of introducing Poor Laws into Ireland, from the manner in which they had worked here. Their original intention was certainly good, but this country had suffered much from the mode in which they had beet carried into execution. If they were adopted in Ireland, they must be much altered, and more limited. It would be a great misfortune if the peasantry of Ire land were deluded into a belief that the remedy afforded by so limited a measure as it ought to be, would dimi nish that pressure a hich they generally felt. Their gre .1 di.tress arose from want of employment, and the relief would be confined to the aged and infirm. One of the remarkable traits of the Irish, was the attencirn and kindness which they chewed to their fellow poor. It would be to be apprehended, that Poor Laws would harden their hearts and alter their character for charity, as they had done amongst rho people in this country. The Marquis of SALISBURY also wished that their Lordships would seriously consider the cruelty and op pression occasioned by the Poor Laws before they ven tured to extend them to Ireland. Lord REDESDALE was understood to say, that . hied at all, it ought to be in the large towns, for which Acts of Parliament applicable to the circumstances of the place might be enacted. The Earl of BELMORE said, that the tax on land' in Ireland had already amounted at from three to seven shillings an acre. How could charges like those in flicted by the English Poor Laws, be borne in addition to such a tax? The Marquis of LANSDOWN observed thlt the English Poor Laws had two objects: one to provide for the infirm and aged, and the other, to procure employ ment for those who wanted it. The first object was more limited than the second, and deserved the serious attention of those who wished well to Ireland. But as to procuring employment in the present state of the Irish population, the attempt would only lead to taking, it from those who had it, to give it to those who had it not. Were houses of industry, which might produce much advantage in some districts, to be extended all over the country, a new supply would be thrown into the market, which would drive the independent lea bowers produce out of it. The same risk did not at tend the establishment of Dispensaries, which indeed had for some years considerably increased. It was the duty of Parliament to give due consideration to every plan, but it was desirable that no expectation should be held out to the people of Ireland which could not be real zed.— After a few words from Viscount CLIFDRII, Earl CARBERRY said, that it had been his inten tion to move, but I.e should not now do it till next Ses sion, an humble Address to his Majesty, praying that he would be graciously pleased to direct an inquiry to be made by the persons entrusted with the Government of Ireland as to the practicability of establishing a sys tem of relief for the aged and infirm poor in Ireland, either by parochial assessment, or other means better suited to the situation. of that part of the United King dom, and to direct the information to be laid before the House at the next Session of Parliament. The None Simi then presented Petitions from the Parishes of Mary's and Sc. Paul's, in the City of Cork, against the intro ' &aim of Poor Laws into Ireland.—Laid on the table. LORD HIGH ADMIRAL. The House having gone into a Committee so the Admiralty Bill, I Lord ELLENBOROUGH relinquished the idea of moving the clause of which he had given notice, in consequence of Snding that every warrant of appoint -1 silent issued by the Lord High Admiral was to be countersigned by the Secretary of tie Admiralty, thus giving the country the security of a responsible pet sun. His Lordship then said, that he understood that serious doubts were entertained, whether it oils in the power of the Crown to sever the Droits of the Admi ralty from the office of Lord High Admiral merely by a Patent. - - ----- The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that the Law Officers of the Crown entertained no doubt on the sub ject, and the Patent was drawn as on firmer occa sions. As it was one of great importance, however, he should direct his att,mtinn to it again, and should also call that of the Law Officers of the'Crown to it. The Biil went through the Committee, was reported, and or dered to be e. grossed. ♦DItINISTRATION or Ames. The several Bills to improve the Administration of Criminal Justice, wcrerespectively read a third time and passed.—Adj. HOUSE OF COMMONS. a t 4 Sir A. tHICHOTER presented a Petition from Belfast against the Duty on Coals. On the trieMon of Mr. ESTCOURT, the further consideration of the Report of the Committee on' Alehouse Licenses was post. pored to this day month. Mr. KENNEDY presented a Petition from certain individuals connected with the trade of the River Dee, in favour of the Salmon Fishery Bill.—Oftlered to lie on the table. TUT set. Petitions against the Test and Corporation Acts, were presented from the tonsuring places-- By Mr. BIRCH, from Kingswortb, and six other places lit Not tinghamshire; by Mr. WEITZRN, from Chelmsford, Stratford, and other parts of Essex; by Mr. WarTNOll, from • Oswestry, Bridgenorth, Newport, Whi;chorch, and other places in the County of . Salop ; by .Alr. DUNCWItiIe, from three places in Hert fordshire; by Sir R. Wicsom, from certain Dissenters of the Borough of Southwark, and by Mr. C. C from Bermood my, Wandsworth, and certain Dissenters of the Borough of South warita--Oidered.to be printed. Admiesi SO.TH#4l4ol : presepted a Petition from Paw Baked, !nylon - that the Borough might not be disfrandtbed.--Orditred to 12CICATION. Mr. PER CENTAL presented the Report of the Commission ap pointed to inquire into the state of Education in Ireland. Mr. S. RICE said, the various Commissioners appointed to In. quire into the state of Ireland had, within a few years, cost upwards of 900,0001. He disapproved of the practice of Commindoners, who differed from the majority, printing their opinions in a separate form. _ _ Mr. F. LEWIS said, the good produced by one single Commis sion, that appointed to inquire into the revenue, more than counter balanced the expense of all the Commissions. When first they entered upon their labours no more than 3,000,000 gallons of spirits paid duty. At present the quantity was 14,000,000 galloon The Report, after a few word, from Sir Jona Newrort and Mr. Gaarrax, was ordered to be be printed. Lord A LTHORP presented a Petition from Chichester In fa vour of the Bribery at Elections Bill. The Petitioners, however, were of opinion that nothing but Election by Ballot could mat an effectual stop to bribery.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. FLEMING presented a• Petition from Brompton, in Kent, against any alteration in the present Corn Bill.—Ordered to be printed. . On the motion of Mr. Joint WOOO, the Preston Election Bill --- --- • Cal read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to. morrow. Sir S. LU hi LSI' presented a Petition from Sutton, praying that steps might be taken to put an end to the practice of burning of widows in India.—Ordered to be printed. PAUPERS. On the motion of Mr. Scausr, the Able-bodied Pauper Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time neat Friday. Mr. SLANEY moved for a Return of the number of Paupers suppotted by the Poor 's Rates, in the different Parishes of England, during the years 1625, ISMS, and lerf, distinguishing such Paupers as were able to work. - I On the suggestion of Mr. Secretary Bollix; the Hon. Member withdrew the motion. Mr. Alderman WA ITH MA N presented a Petition from Cam berwell against the Test and Corporation Acts. Mr. F. WILSON presented a Petition from a Lady possessing property in the bleed of St. Vincent's, praying that the House would take into consideration the Acts relating to Slaves in the West Indlet.—Ordered to lie on the table. CO s• Mr. Alderman THOMPSON said, be bald in his band a Peti tion, signed by a numbers( bigbly respectable individuals, Ship.' owners of the City of Looden; against a dense in the Customs Hill, which went to preclude the importation of thirteen articles in fo reign ships. The Petitioners apprehended that if such a system of legislation - u this contlnu‘d to be acted upon, the same confusion would arise in the Statute Book as before existed. This regulation would greatly enhance t►e 'awn, of bringing these thirteen stri des to this country. It was at •ariance with the Report of she Committee on which the Bill was founded. Mr. HUSK ISSON said, the subject bad been discussed at some length on Friday night. At present be should not detain the House, but postpone any remarks he had to make until the report was brought up. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said the reasons as signed by the Right Hon. Gentleman on Friday night for this alteration, appeared to him quite satisfactory. He felt confidence in the measures of the Right Hon. Gentleman, because he appeared to act upon clear and just principles. The Petitionwa, ordered to be printed.' On the motion of Mr. Alderman TIMIIIIPSON, a return of the quantity of the thirteen articles specified in the Bill, imported in each year, from 1820 to MS, inclusive, was ordered to be laid upon the table. Mr. Gaosvessou presented a Petition from Chester, against the practice of burning Widows in lodic.—Ordered to be printed. PETITION PROW GLOUCESTER. Lord MILTON said, he held in his hand a Petition upon a most important subject. Within the last few days events had occurred in another place which were most unfortunate for the country. He would not go so f ir as to say that they were discreditable to any body of men, but they certainly would lead one to suspect that the body of men to which he alluded, were not endued with a very sound practical knowledge of commercial principles—(Hear)—and might, perhaps, lead some to infer, that they were, nut only not endued with sound commercial principle!, but that they did not possess that feeling for the interest of the public which became the Aristocracy of a great Empire like this—(Hear, hear). The Petition did not come from those who might be supposed materially to select him for presenting it iodic House. It came from a body of manufacturers of the county of Gloucester, who could have no other knowledge of him ' except that of his opinions on this subject being similar to their own. The argumentation in the Petition was most sound. The Petitioners stated, that unless some means were devised to lower tit price of Porn in this country, or bring it to a somewhat similar price in other countries, the export trade of England must gra dually decay. They asked not fur low prices of corn. All they desired was, that the prises might approximate to those of other countries. The way in which they conceived this might be effected was by admitting the surplus produce of foreign cisuntrll.l, which I would take manufactures in return. He trusted some means might yet be devised for getting rid of the difficulty, and that the country would not be left for another year under the present Corn Law.—Ordered to be printed. CORN LAWS. Mr. CANNING rose for the purpose of giving notice for to-morrow of a motion on .the subject of the Corn Laws— (Loud cries of Hear, hear, from all puts of the House).—He said that he was prepared on the part of his Majesty's G ,vernment to submit to a Committee of the whole House certain Resolutions relative to the Corn Laws; but the course he should pursue must in a great degree depend upon the course which the Hon. Member (Mr. Western) meant to pursue with respect to his motion. If the Hon. Member meant to persevere in his motion to-night, and if the H use should consent to give precedence to that motion, then it was probable that he (Mr. Canning) would hare an opportunity of proposing his Resolutions by waf of amendment to the Hon. Memb. A Motion ; but this must entirely depend upon the tnrii which the di cussion should take. Mr. F. LEWIS implored the House not to lose a moment in considering this great question He knew well t ha t the 0. der: tit the Day which stood I efore the Hon. Member's (Mr. W ite!rn's) nrition were important, but t was not tight thin tl.e f should fur a moment delay [PRICE SEVENI4OOSE. !altering the most appalling posit'on in wbich . the coon try was placed by the failure of the late Coin Bill. Mr. WISTERN at this moment took his place. General GASCOYNE said a fee, words Innis under the Gallery, intimating to Mr. Canning that . :the Hon. Member was absent when he (Mr. Canning) gave his notice. Mr. CANNING assnred the House that the Hon. Member was not in his place when be addressed the House. The Right 14 ,, n. Gentleman here repeated. across the table, to the Hon. Member for Essex, what he had previou,ly said in his absence. Mr. WESTERN observed, that nothing had fallen Irons the Right Hon. Gentleman calculated to induce him to alter the course which he proposed to pursue. His intention was to propose a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the motion he meant to make. If the House wasinclined to give way to him. he'll's' ready—(Cries of" mote, *over " go onll . He tluu said, that, with the leave of the House, he would ,tare shortly the nature of the view which ke took of the Corn Laws, as well as the remedy which he meant to propose. Mr.CANNlNGiuggested, that it was not necessary on the part of the Hon. Member to make such a statement before going into a Committee. The more bregutar course would be to move ftr a Committee of the whole House, and upon that motion being carried, to eater into his statement. After a few words from Slr E. Kotstmenn.t. and Lori Memos, who recommended the same course of proceeding, Mr. VIIISTEItN moved—" That the Hoek in go into a Coin mime cider wt oleMonse to take into consideration the Core Acts." The motion was agreed to, and the Brassie having left the Chair. Mr. WESTERN said he had a tew observation& to submit to the Committee before he moved the first series of Resolutions, upon which he meant to found a Bill, of which he gave notice to the House ten days ago. He then stated, as far as in giving a notice he was allowed to do, what was the object be had in view. That object r iig really confined to a very simple proposition; it was Lo relieve from the operation of the suspensive clause the Act of 1822, to allow the provisions of that Act, from this time forward, to take effect. In the year 1622, the House appointed a Committee to inquire into the subjeit of the Corn Laws, and to that investigation the Marquis of Londonderry certainly paid the most un wearied and unceasing attention ; the result was, that a new la's , was passed, and this contingent clause was , added to it, by which the law itself had been prevented from ever coming into operation. We was opposed to that law at the time; and, if there should be some ap parent inconsistency in his now recommending it to the adoption of the House, that apparent inconsistency would disappear when be stated that his opposition to the law of 1822 was founded upon its being adverse to the law of 1815. At the time he did not place any !Moe upon the contingent clause, but.described it, as it *peered to him, to be an anomaly in legislation. Five L years had now elapsed, and the contingency never hap lpeoed ; consequently the Act of 1822 was never called into operation. What were the changes effected in the Law of 1615 by that of 1822? By the law of 1815, wheat could not be admitted into our ports at a price lower than eighty shillings. By the law of 1822, wheat was admissible at seventy shillings, upon payment of a duty of twelve shillings. If the price advanced above seventy, there was an additional duty of five shillings, and if it advanced to eighty, there was a diminution ; if it remained for three months above seventy, then , the five shillings duty was reduced. The same alteration was made in all the import prices of otiser sorts of grain, and the import price of Canada wheat was oho dimi nished. By the I.w of 1815, wheat imported from Ca nada was liable to an import duty of 675. and the Act of 1822 admitted at 575. Now he could not anticip to . any objection that could be offeied to allowing this law to come into effect, and - to have a fair trial. He knew that some Hon. Gentlemen, who usually thought with him upon these subjects, were jealous of an unlimited importation at the price of 704. as being likely to over whelm the markets and create a lasting and ruinous de pression. Ile had no apprehension that prices we e likely to reach seventy. Al:hough there had been a rise of there or four shillings within the last week, the average return was only fifty-eight, and with the present fine weather and general prospects of an abundant hat yes., there could be no ground whatever for alarm. He wished particularly to call the attention of the Right Hos.. Gentleman to this poiot.How could such a price be a rea sonable ground of alarm, when in 1821, wprds were put into theßoyalSpeech pointing out the stateof agriculture, when wheat was at 675. as an indication of the happiness of the people? Now it was at 58s. and that price was to be considered an alarming one, requiring further check. Notwithstanding prices were below 60s. the point which the Right Hon. Gentleman affected to fie as the proper remuneration of the British grower, yet they heard expressions of alarm. He admitted, as he had always contended, that the fluctuations of the cur rency since the year 1821, had rendered it impossible to compare the prices at that time and the present upon equal conditions ; but he denied that corn was now dear, or that there was any fair prospect of its being so. In submitting his Resolution to the Commit. tee he did not ask them to pass any new law; he offer ed them no new proposition; he only called upon them to let this Act which had been upon the Statute Book for five years have an opportunity of being tried. It might be said that there was no necessity for the change which he proposed to make in this law, because his Ma jetty's Government possessed a discretionary power to apply a remedy if called upon to do so by the situation of the country. He did not believe they would abuse that power, but it was one which might be abused, and it was one which ought not to be at their discretion.-- lt ass improper power, it was one which must be ilsksowse to them, and the measure which he now pro posed would relieve them from the necessity of exerting it. Upon every occasion when this subject had been under discussion, he bad invariably said that it was one which did not involve party or political considerations. He believed the true policy of this e ,untry to be that of sodeavouring to provide food for her own people from her own resources, rather than to depend upon foreign supply. This bad been the opinion of some of the greatest men in former times, and he would still con . tend for its soundness now. It was an opinion wh ch had been over and over agaiq suppoited by the soonest ~iggib •' I • ; iii I ' II • • • ; ~6 11: I i 4 I •