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Let me next advert to the charge made against the Bishops, expressly made against them generally, a word always consi dered u meaning universally. But I will not plead to it other wise than in the precise meaning of the word, and in reply I will beg of your Lordship to look to the preferments held by the sons of Bishops. The Reelesiegieat Register is a book in every one's bands, and your Lordship has also the Reports made to Parlia ment, and see in how many instances unions have been formed for their advantage. I will undertake to say that in general (and I use the word in its extended sense) the unions which they hold were made before they weie born. I entreat your Lordship, in justice to the living and the dead, for I will not limit my defence to the Bishops now in being, though I justly might, but I will go back to their predecessors to the beginning of this cen tury, and again I entreat your Lordship to refer to the authorities which I have mentioned, and. see what instances can be adduced to support a charge made with such unmitigated severity. Nor de I think in this that I ask too much from your Lordship, when the extreme importance of the case is considered. If your Lord ship, on examining the books, should think that .gnu see soy in stance of a anion so made. I do confidently unit this you will have .the goodness to state it to me, anst if my eyes have not de ceived me in the course of my examination I rely upon being able to - clear it up. These unions of parishes are very little understood.—The word parish is supposed to signify a district sufficient in extent and popu lation to require the attention of a clergyman, and affording an in come adequate to his maintenance. This is by no means the ease and there are no people who have a better opportunity of knowing it is not than the people of Cork, where a brewery or distillery occupies the whole extent of a pariah ! On looking into the Re-- de:it:stied Register, it will appear that the parishes united are in general Vicarages, entitled only to one-third of the tithes, or Im propriate Coracles paid by a salary from the Impropriator, gene rally under ten pounds, and never, in any instance which I have known. amounting to thirty—often absolutely withotit any salary at all. Nearly all of them are destitute of churches, they having been destroyed in the civil wars, and unable to rebuild, or, if rebuilt, to . . . maintain them. retarded the progress of vital Christ anity; laming our inten twos to be good, confident the gates of Hell shall never prevail against the true Church of Coats% and that the false doctrines of Popery can acquire little strength front the candid admiuion that our Clergy are not infallible, and there exist some flaws in the temporal things, we ventured to express those unfeigned semi meats, which a desire for the permanent welfare of our Church dictated. And here permit me to say, laymen have at least as good a tight to speak upon religious subjects as Clergymen upon poli tical ones; allowing the Clergy credit for the best intentions in the latter, we laymen claim a like favour in the former. I now beg to say, there was little in my speech exclusively in tended for Ireland, which indeed I think your Lordship ought to have at once perceived. It was also far from my intention to at tack the zealous and virtuous members of our Hierarchy. I pur posely spoke in general terms, wishing to avoid every charge of personalty. It was not individuals so much as abuses that I aimed ati;obsses which, alas ! are too notorious to be concealed by simple contradiction. That the practice of appointing. Bishop. from po litical motives has existed, cannot be denied, so long as we have living humus of the fact; and what has been done, it will not be denied, Joey, when it phrases the Ministry. be done again. I shall pan ever*, doenenints ydir Lordship refers to, to prove the dan ger of kilreffeltitiih-ffiesiesioiniesi Anon. The sots of Great Britain now I. surely different from what it was about the year hike. We must either proceed forwards or retrograde, and now is no time to exclaim, "'Ti. better to bear those ills we have, Than fly to others that we know not of." For my own part I can say, my trust is net so much in the power of man as in the power of GOD. The wall of partition has been lately pulled down by the Lords Spiritual as well as Temporal His Majesty's Ministers have now left us to shift for ourselWs. Popery and infidelity have combined to overthrow our Church, and they may succeed if the Loan is not for us. And how, I would ask, can we expect the assistance of the More Hum, when vital and practical religion is so little valued. and when the Government and the people look with apathy on abuses, which no one cam deny? Nay, when some amongst the Clergy may even defend those very abuses. In is with pride and satisfaction I admit that several dour most pious and worthy Prelates, both in England and Ireland. have for some time made great exertions to correct what was faulty:rhea not only deserved the praise, but the co-operation of the laity, for without some assistance from, I shall not say the lay members, but the lay friends of the Church, the Bishops. even collectively, I fear could not effect much iu a country where the matters caw plained of are wont to be regulated by Act of Parliament. In pro portion as Convocations are neglected, and the appointed authori ties in the Church are satisfied to refer to Parliament, which is chiefly composed of the laity, for the redress of ecclesiastical abut, the more natural is it for laymen to feel they have a right to inter. fere, when the prelates suffer glaring abuses to continue. The sob jeet of unions of parishes has long engaged public attention. Much has been said. and clearly proved, of the evils arising from the pear'. rice, and much has been admitted. I wish to .blame no one ea their account. But this I say : the true friends of the Church ow nestly hope that, with very few exceptions, unions and pluralities will soon be abolished, because the souls of men are of some import. ante, and neither a dignitary of the Church, nor benefical dm. man, no more than any other man, can be in two places at the same time. Your Lordship asks "to what good end can it now tend to complain of the abuse which Bishops may have (once) made of their power of uniting parishes?" I answer—that the abuse may be corrected, and the Church restored to its pristine coed'. tion ; and the sooner this is done the better. As impropriate and lay tithes render in your opinion the union of parishes neces lary, I have only to .say. I wish some equitable plan may soon be proposed by your Lordship, to remedy the evil. Your Lord ship would lead me to suppose, that the Act passed Ave years ago regulating the salary of Curates, is a sovereign remedy for all the hardships they labour under. My Lord, I know too much to be thus convinced. Facts are stubborn things, and without naming individual cases, as I have no desire to bring any one into a scrape I assert, without fear of contradiction, that in nu merous instaaces. Curates do not at this moment receive from their Rectors the salary allowed them by law. Some Bishops may have, through oversight, omitted to enquire whether the Act you allude to was complied with, and the Curates have felt too dependent on their superiors, to give vent to just feelings of dissatisfaction. As I am inclined to think different gradations in the Church to be quite Scriptural. and most useful, and as talent, piety, and activity, are not undeserving of temporal reward to a reasonable extent, I for one have never entertained an idea of allot ting an equal income to every parish, But I regret I must differ from your Lordship, when you say, " the incomes allotted to the clergy are designed to induce men to enter into the Church with a hope that it will afford them a maintenance, and eventualy a compe tence, or even affluence." Are these the motives that ought to induce men to take Holy Orders ? Are these objects in harmony with the Holy Bible, and in unison with the words of our Ordination? My Lord, I must.follow your example, and apologise for perhaps using expressions not sufficiently circumlocutory. But when you appeal to the experience of all men." whether unequal emoluments varying through very different degrees will not be more attractive than low uniform incomes?" I cannot help figuring to myself a lottery contractor (in times past) calculating on the advantages likely to be derived front the aC15,000 prize down to the numerous small prizes which, even when won, could never cover the original cost of the ticket. guilty. Amongst the faults of, I fear too many of the former— faults which have contributed much to alienate the affection. of the laity, and which has, in too many instances, driven members of the Church of England out of her pale—l enumerated covet ous ; and gigantic will be the task of him who attempts to prove th is assertion 11l founded. Your Lordship's instance of the Tithe Composition in no way weakens my statement. The incum bents got as much as they could, and I find no fault with them for doing so, and if bar happened to be worse off for his bargain, aco. thee made a better thing of it. Local circumstances in certain eases regulated the conduct of souse ' yet I never heard rot one who had compounded complaint, though I have known the pari-hioners in certain cases to have bewailed bitterly. The last point I am called on to n•itice, is your Lordship's de nial that some of the Clergy of the Church of England are disc '- lute and immoral. Will your Lordship, on cool reflection, repeat this? Oh, but I see you now wish to limit your denial to petitions having been presented to Parliament against improper Clergymen from Ireland. I have before said that I spoke at Cork of the Clergy of England and Ireland, collectively, and it matters little whether petitions be presented or not, if flagrant cases can be proved. I certainly shall not now tell all I know, because truth is, unfortunately in this country, declared to be a libel ; but I do know somesserious facts, and there bay disclose many more. Cife4ll,o from time to time brought into the Ecclesiastical and other Cooney. which prove my assertions to be true, whilst the apathy arising from ignorance, bribery, and corruption, often hinders a crowd of other charges from being brought to light. The expense also 01 law proceedings, If I mistake not, besides some other reasons, servo as impediments to the conviction of clerical immorality. As most unjust insinuations have appeared in some of the public prints against the Clergy of Cork, as a body, I must take this op portunity of saying, I wish as much zeal and piety may bi'found in every part of his Majesty's dominions. Whilst I think we have as great a share of truly religious men amongst the Clergy of the city of Cork, than in modern times falls to the lot of a town of it: size and population. I feel no inclination to wink at the conduct of some in this county, as well as in other parts, who rather d...-erve the name of " hirelings" than of " good shepherds." I have now only to express my regret at being thus obliged to be so explicit. I have been severely called to account for doing that which I considered to be a duty. lam sorry you should have been to fearful of being included amongst those who " eat, drink, and ate merry" in this world—l can only assure your Lordship, you, as well as several other virtuous and zealous Bishops, uho have long laboured in the cause of truth, were far distant from my thoughts when I ventured to speak against the useless members of our Church Establishment. But there are some who oppose the march of vital religion—some who even may have the courage to assert there is little or no difference between Protestantism and Popery ; and these require at least a gentle shake of the shoulders to awake them from their slumbering dreams. As for what the Dublin Past or any other Paper my say, I care nothing. 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And I will ask, to what good end can it now tend to complain of the abuse which Bishops may have made of theirlower of unit ing parishes, when your Lordship knows that they have no longer the power of uniting them ? But to proceed The incomes of the Clergy are unequally divided the Curate has not sufficient to . procure the decencies of life for his f amifj." Pirmit me to ask whether your Lordship has looked into die last Act relative to Cu rites' salaries (it was passed five years ago) ? and whether any thing beyond that can be expected—unless, indeed, the principle of equal. axing all incomes, and having no curates at an, be adopted ? The evils of such a system it would take an essay to detail. Just let us view it thus : The incomes allotted 'to the Clergy are deigned to induce men to enter into the Church. with the hope that it will afford them a maintenance, and eventually a competence, or even affinence. Seen in this light, (and setting aside all higher motives for adopting the profession, as being perfectly unconnected with the secular interest, now under consideration) I will appeal to the ex perience of all men, whether unequal emoluments, varying through very different degrees, will not be more attractive than the low, uniform income which an equal division Would afford to each indi• vidual. The fact is before us. Our supply of. educated men is fully adequate to our wants, on the present system. What improve ment could a change in that system produce 'A vase, notion of an immense revenue which might be thrown into the heap to be divided, is, I well know, abroad. The extent of the Bishops' lands is very great —granted. But it is admitted that at leiirtour.fiftbs of the profits of those lands are in the hands of their Whams: It would probably be nearer the truth to say nine -tenths,. But be the proportion what it may, it would be direct robbery to deprive them (the tenants) of possessicai which have been in their families 'through successive generations ; nay, made the subject of family settlements. We come, therefore, to the actual income of the Bishops. Now, of the amount of that we have the evidence Of Mr.' Leslie Foster before the Committee on the State of Ireland and he averaged the income of the Bishops at £5,000 Irish—that is, 44,600 sterling. Your Lordship will not, I believe, think that an- int:bine of that amount should be diminished. That it is not.equally divided, is not a sub ject of discontent among ourselves : we do not apply for any change. We do, indeed, complain of our incomes being over-rated. I am not satisfied at being rated at £B,OOO, when I cannot reckon on £5,000 ; nor am I pleased to hear the Archbishop of Dublin rated at £14,000, when I am convinced that be barnot £8,000; nor the Bishop of Derry's being rated at £2Q,00(4-when I do not believre him to have more than £15,000. ' : Persons are at liberty to pass and repass to the Continent, under limitations, WINDOOT LICZNCE AND EMU PANICIO3I. If any Person die by Suicide, Duelling, or the Hands of Justice the full value which his Polley bore on the day previous to the time of his Death will be paid. No Admission Fees are required, nor is any Charge made for Policies, except the &amp Duty. cr Persons who have been insured in the Fire Offices lately dissolved, may remove into the COUNTY FIND Orrice without any additional expense.—Agents are appointed in all the principal Towns. A N IMPORTANT DISCOVERY for preserving and beautifying the TEETH and GUMS. AN ROWLAND'S ODONTO; or, PEARLY DENTIFRICE. 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A Nonce so Qrrne-A Lady of the name of Furor,!ap peared before the Court for the department of de l'Yottne the other day, in consequence of her making use of the following in genious mode to get rid of ahad tenant :—Monsieur and Madame Dumont were, it seems, her ladgen; Madame Retard bad given them hints without number, and of the broadest description, to seek some other domicile : but all in vain. Their reply was much the same in substance is that of Daniel O'Rourke to the man in the moon, on receiving a similar request—" Faith and I'll nor, and the more you bids me the more I won't go." s , We'll try that," thought Madame livrard ; so, on the 3d of July last. in the evening, she puts out the light, and leaves the trap-dour open in the passage. Down goes Madame Dumont to buy something nice foe supper, and tumbles, like Amy Robsart, head over heels into the cellar. Poor Madame Dumont has been ill ever since ; and the Court, holding that breaking a lodger's neck, if an effectual, is not a strictly legal .mode of getting rid of her, condemned the landlady in 16 fr. fine, 25 fr. damages, and all the costs of the action. Each Genuine Box bait the Name and Address engraved on the Government Stamp," A. Rowrran and Sox," 20, Hatton Garden, which is pasted on the Wrapper: The Genuine is sold by most Perfumers and Medicine Venders. T,HE ESTABLISHED CHURCH IN IRELAND. • .• . • . , . , We come then to the Parochial Oergytwelve hundred In cumbents, and six hundred Curates—and the whole of the incomes at the Incumbents. if equally divided, would give these 1.800 nearly 2501. each. Increase the number till ft becomes equ al to the number of parishes. and, allowing no-Curates at all, the diVi• dend would be about 1871. per annum. Let that arrangement be proclaimed, and what would be the effect upgp the class of men of which the Clergy is at present 'composed %padl they led a. stronger wish to go intoehe Church' than they do riow ? Unques tionably not. We should be obliged to admit uneducated men.' With what advantage, let those who wisk to know inquire in those parts of England and Wales which are eupplied with such. TO TOE EARL OF MOUNTCASIIEL. Palace, Ferns, Sept. 26,1829. Me Loan—l shall not trouble you Lordship with apologies for the liberty 1 am shout to take in addressing you upon the subject of the late Meeting at Cork, which seems to• me best described as being a 'Lay Synod. I should deserve to be reckoned' among the illthops who eat, drink, and are merry, did I remain inactive at such a moment as this. I think it due to your Lordship to entreat that you will consider very maturely the consequences of proceeding in the course now begun. I thin' net be told by your Lordship that in referring to history, I am quoting an old almanack. I feel convinced that your Lordship will not think it inexpedient .to look back to the proceedings, now but two centuries old, which took place in England with respect to the Church, and to a repeti tion of which a Petition to both Houses of Parliament, as pro jected at the Cork Meeting, will inevitably lead. A Committee of Religion will consequently be formed, and a Petition of Religion, like that in which the Commons, in 1628, censored Bishops, as (l imiters of Popery, and as holding heretical opinions,and complained that pious, laborious, and orthodox Ministers were discouraged, will be the next step on the part of the Commons, who would in stantly perceive the opening which such a state of things would af ford them to increase their power. What sort of edifice was built in the 17th century upon the foundation of the authority assumed by the Commons inmatters of religion, I need not remind your Lordship. So far as relates to the State your Lordship is, I doubt not, better acquainted with them than I am. But perhaps the consequences as to religion are not so well known. For these I would refer your Lordship to an authority not liable to be sus pected of partiality towards Bishops or Establishments, John Milton. Your Lordship will find what he says upon the subject in vol. 4 of his prose works, published by Symmons, at page 84. To another writer, of the same principles as Milton, Thomas Edwards, reference might be nude to the same purpose ; but as his work, Gangrene. is in few hands, I shall take the liberty of making an extract from it. It was published in 1646 :—" In these four years," he says (reckoning from that in which the Bishops had been removed), " we have surpassed the deeds of the Prelates, and justified the Prelates, in whose time never so many nor so great errors were heard of, much less such blasphemies and confusions; we have worse things among us than ever were in all the 13hhops' days, more corrupt doctrines, 'and unheard-of practices than in eighty 'years before. The - Bishops and their Chaplains (who were accounted time-servers) opposed the errors of the times, but the Presbyteks suffered all kinds of - errors and schisms tO conic in when they were in place; certainly the Bishops and Chaplains shall rise up in judgment against the Ministry of their generation."' Ala Account bf Edstards is given fn the" Biographia Brilannica." That such consequences would ensue from proceedings originally intended to produce reform; Wart mat foreseen by these men, nor by Lord Strafford, when he associated himself with them in the commencement of their course, and as they had no example to warn theist they may plead a *di plausible excuse. And now, my Lord, having said thus much on the general question, permit me to enter a little into particulars. Upon such a subject r must feel strongly, rind it is best that I should at once apologise for perhaps using expressions not sufficiently circumlocu tory. I prefer at any h sard, and I think I do not run much risk with your Tirdship. making myself thirty understood. And first as to the eorlduet of the Crown is the appointment of Bishops. It is manifest that though England has been sometim e s mentioned in your Lordship's speech (the speech attributed to your Lordship I should say), yet-every thing said at the meet ing will be understood as relating to Ireland, and as such I shall take it, though I might refer io England, and qlote the appoint nteitt to Canterbury, London, Durham, Lincoln, and Salisbury, se not oriole' nut of bargains between Ministers Sint borough minion. But I will entredi jest' Lerdshln'iitterition iolreland, sad' it will oak where, 'in the course of the last two-and-tweuty years, is there to be found a Bishop prOaroied in the Manna de seised by - your Lordship?' 'There is not, believe, *all'inalividttil or'fboie appointed during chit period !Au! could command I#gig M. Chitry, a Lieutenant Colonel in the French army, Chevalier Of the Order of St. Louis, and Member of the Legion of Honour, has just been sentenced by the Coirectional Tribunal of Angouleme to a month's imprisonment. a fine of 16 francs, and 600 francs damages, with all coats, for shooting echild nine years old while in the act of running away from him, at the bottom of his garden. Several witnesses proved the (act, the principal of whom was the Sheer Chevron, a dignitary belonging to the Cathedral. The latter deposed that on the 21st July, calling on M. Chitty, he amused himself by throwing at him a little gravel, which fell near him; the witness was surprised at the serious light in which be took it,.saying that be thought the children were throw= ing stones again off the rampart. " Bet, loop here," added he, chewing a gun, "here is what will give them a little lessen." " 6 For Heaven's sake don't make use of such a weapon as that," was the worthy Canon's answer ; " you may do serious mischief, and from the scattering of the charge, perhaps , injure somebody whom you do not intend to hit. esides, you may draw upon yourself and other pious people a degree of ridicule which is much better avoided." " I held this language to NI. Cbitry," added M. Cheviot, " because he bad before told me that stones were thrown at hi. house by people who abused him, calling him a bigot," Ste. On reaching the house we went into a balcony hanging over the garden, which we had scarcely entered when M. Chitry cried our, There they are,' and rase precipitately down with his gun in his hand. I lost sight of hint for a few moments, when I heard the report of a gun, and imme diately after M. Chitry came back and said, with some agitation, 6 I am afraid I have done more mischief than I intended.'— The medical man who attebded the child deposed, that they had taken fortysfoor small shut from his head and neck, the wounds occasioned by which were of no great depth, but did nut heal for above a fortnight after the event.- The prisoner, in his tiervnee. called Goo to witness that be had not intended to hurt, but only to frighten the child; and on being asked by the President why. it that were the cue, be had not fired in the air? replied, " For fe.r of spoiling some apples which were growing on a tree in front of him." Thibaut, for the prosecution, commented on the pri soner's conduct in a strain of indignant eloquence, which excited a great sensation in the Court and among the spectators, who fol lotted the sentence with plaudits, which the President was obliged to exert himself to suppress. We mentioned a few dayetioace a daring attempt at housebreak ing, made by four brigands in the neighbourhood of Jean Pied• de -Port. Accounts just received in Paris from the South of Prance, contain a report .of another, nearly similar, which has recently taken' place in the department Des Landes.. There is M a short distance from Dax, an i.olated farm-honse, of re spectable appearance, the owner of which. according to report, bad received a few days since a sum or about 8 000 francs. So . tempting a booty excited the cupidity of several persons of bad character, who, being igniirant of the localities of the place. endeavoured to bribe a servant belonging to the farm to assist them In their design. The man, faithful to his trust, thought it better to seem to consent. His reward was Sled, and every dis position arranged for carrying the robbery into execution at an appointed hour. In the meantime a piequet of gendarmerie, re iniorced by some of the ittliabkants of the village of fit. Paul. accreted themselves about the premises. All-hell:* prepared for their reception, the domestic went to meet the thieves at the ap pointed place of eroticism's*, when he friend them armed, and baying their faces blackened. Sons, distrust of bis. fidelity ap 'pears at first to have mina anion them, and thee threatened hilts with instant death if be .shpuld prove.' traitor.; the mat.. of however, affected to rearm their - suspicions , and offersilo be the ant to seize, and even strangle his master, if netessaryZ-This re assured them; and 'the party proceeded to the house .lire owner, In order amen compromise the safety of bis preserver, had the courage to wait the artiial of the brigandsmis if unconscious of their • meditated attack, and even to Gaffer bintielf to be se lied, in doing which incurred -no slight peril, as the captain of the band, apps- As to the charges made against the moral and religious charac ter of the Clergy, I shall trouble your Lordship with a remark-but upon one of them. Your Lottbbip characterized the Clergy as being in general griping and covetous. 'Now it does happen thit the refutation of this charge is on record: • The Actior the Com position of Tithes has made public the rate at which the Clergy made their demands, and it is notorious that they do not amount to one-tenth of the rent, so far (robs beta one-Tenth' of the pro duce, to which they would hay, amounted, had nit the Clergy, with a liberality which deserved an euloeiwn instead Of the censure passed upon them, relinquished two.tbirda of ,their lavernl property, which they might have claimed without igcurring the censure of being griping and covetous. Yes ; there is one charge more to which, as it admitl'of proof if well founded, I must claim your Lordship's attention :—" Iu ' many instances the Clergy lead improper, innorai,•and.dissolste lives, and various petitions have been presented to both Houses of Parliament, representing facts revolting to'huManity, and disgrace ful to the parties accused." On the part of the Cleft) , of Ireland, I du solemnly deny the charge; and in. their name; and on their behalf, I claim the proof—the instances I meas, for to that I limit myself—of such petitions having been presented. Did such immoral characters exist, the Ecclesiastical Courts would be resorted to by the aggrieved .parishiotters, and the charge must he entertained. I will now conclude this very long letter with repeating my apo logy for the freedom with which Z have eipressed myself. I thought it due to your Lordship to make a direct ecimmunication upon ibis subject—while I .write I see what may aerie as a deci sive confirmation of the apprehensions which I 'have expressed as to the consequences which the proceedings at Cork are likely to produce. The Popish Papers praise them. The Ettessite Pest says they are ail that it catrdesire.—l have the honour to be, Your Lordship's most obedient kumbh servant, (Signed) • TH 0 31 A S 'FERNS. 70 TIM LORD /MOOT OF TRIM. Me Loan—l have had the honour of receiving your commu nication. In having taken the chair at the meeting recently held in Cork I feel I have only performed my duty. and 1 ant satisfied that every well wisher to the Established Church will, after mature reflection, discover mike to be approved Of in the resolutions adopted on that occasion. I am hideed unable ter discover the danger you forbode from our measures; "as there was but one opinion regarding the doctrines of our Church. Your Lordship hardy will not attempt to say that imperfections have existed, and still continue to exist, in certain practices too long suffered in our Church. That the timl has come for remedying these abuses, I think must be conceded. for the more corruptions %veneer to disfigure the Church of England, Abe greater danger is she . in. Now that Onvernmeut his left us to liar 44111• reiourcevi• and withdrawn that protection our Church was :acenstomed to te- Mve, every zealous member is called on to - do bialtest to protect that, which is now more than ever likely to . be' assailed by her enemies.' Assuming that right which I conceive every layman possesses. as being a measlier of the Church of England; we came forward to hear public 'testimony to the purity of her ddetrioes, and to: the Uhl Of those good shepherds wbo, with' indefatigable care, have attended to their flocks..-to arc!, as fir as: jo , us lay, that mis conduct, and those niafptactices which unfortunately prevail, and to point cut some art those evils which, in our opinion, h ,ye greatly My Lord, allow me to say, on the subject of the incomes of Bishops, that their rank in the Church, and the independent character they ought always to maintain, renders it desirable they should possess an independent income. But, when your Lordship admits that the Bishops' lands are worth ten times as mach as what goes into the pockets of their Lordships, I cannot help wishing that at least the rest of the profit could be employed for the spiritual welfare of thousands, who are dying " for lack of knowledge:" Your Lordship, however, considers it " to be direct rubbery to deprive the tenants of possessions which have been An their families through successive generations." That they cannot be deprived of these lands as long as their least' lasts, we all- well know, but afterwards I believe private interest has much to do in the reneoral. And if your Lordship calls the de prival of the tenure of Church lands after the expiration of the lease direct robbery, what an imputation do you We on many of your predecessors as well as contemporaries, who, not contented with the sum offered by way of a fine, or wishing to provide for some relation, have been, and still are, in the habit of running th.ir lives, as it is termed, against the lease. In referring to the Parochial Clergy, your Lordship states them at 1,200 Incumbents, and 600 Curates (for Ireland), and your Lordship, with much nicety, calculates the sum of money which would fall to each, were the incomes equally divided among them. Having on no occasion favoured this measure, I cannot here be expected to advocate it. Bat it is evident your Lordship has one grand object before your eyes, whilst I cons fess my mind has lon been engaged with a very different one. Whilst you, my Lord, have been considering what was most for the interest of a favoured portion of the Clergy, I have been looking to the spiritual wants of the people. For this they pay an annual income; and where they have in so many instances been spurned and ueglected by well paid teachers, it is only sur prising they have borne the imposition so long. Let the clergy do their duty, and they deserve a just remuneration, for " the labourer is worthy of his hire." As your Lordship has entered into cer tain calculations, I am also tempted to do the same, and looking to the wants of the people, taking for granted your statement of the number of parochial clergy to he correct, and laying the population of Ireland at seven millions, none of whom ought to be neglected, I find there is just one parish clergyman to attend to about 3,888 individuals, and there is but one. Incumbent to nearly 6,000 per sons, and one hard-working Curate, supposing all to be such, to nearly 12,000. Now I leave it to your Lordship to reflect whether this is an adequate supply (to use your own phrase) for the maintenance of true Christianity and the salvation of souls, especially when so many of our Rectors confine their. weekly labours to performing the Church service on a Sunday, and reading a dull sermon. The Ignorant and depraved state of too many of the lower order of • Protestants in Ireland as well as in England; the corruption of morals which disgracei all classes and the increase of crime which, of date years, has so much occupied public attention, stand for ward convincing 'pi...as of the absence of practical religion, and of the deficiency of that medium or channel' through whichrhris tian Mart - talon ought to flow. As for me being rims, dof cal ing the whole body of the Clergy griping and covetous, I here beg leave to say, I only made this charge against the worldly-minded portion. From what I said of the pious, and virtuosos, and spiri tual Clergy, I am 'satisfied they ate convinced 1 had never any ntentlon of bringing a charge against them, of which they are cut PI i.