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• I now... of Me..Pereeval, and to the character of Goren; I meat. In the paper for which he should move, he had confined himself simply to a relation of facts, such as his memory had enabled him to do, assisted by the recollection of others, Ht concluded by moving that an humble address be pretentEd to the Prince Regent, 'praying that he would be graciously pleased to direct that there be laid before that. House, a copy:of a letter from Lord G. L. Gower to Lord Castlereagh., dated May 17,4812.-i- (I/ R e, - hear.) Qrdered, after a few words from Lord Castlereagh. peace.vac's FAMILY, Itfr. 'LUSHINGTON brought up the Report of the Committee. tipbn the question that it should be • read a uontia time, Mr, WHITBREAD rose.--,-He said he was ex,' tremely unsvilling to appose a .propositihn like that then before the House ; but as n did appear to him that the House. had gone to' the full extent of remu neration for Mr. Perceval's family, and as•every thing beyond remuneration would appear like a. revvard of his public services, -(No, no, from varioat mat of Ike! Woure)—which services he' utterly denied, lie could not permit himself to vote in favour of the question. The Honourable Gentleman who rneved the Resolu tion had put : it to him, whether 4'200 a-year was suf ficient provision for the eldeat son of Mr. Pirceval ? but he wished to remind that Hononi`able Gentleman of what the fact really was. The income of Mn,s Peraeval, arising from her own private fortune, and the sums voted by Parliament • ter herself and chil dren, would amount to 46500 4-year ; and would person say, that a gentleman's widow, with 12 to bring up, could he considered as Made.' irovided for, with such income ? Now, the House had cooled from the influence o f inFs, the existence of which was truly ho. to.evtry mats in it, he would beg leave tp one or two .other particulars. He under . there were family expectations, derivable persons far advanced jn life, and whom, there teas highly probable, Mrs. r erceval would That was an additional resin for limiting 1-of r:.rliament to what had been already He would view the , case in another light.— ' they do for the widows pf those who died itary or naval service of their country ? A /MO a.year was reckoned an ample pro .n.the present year even, under Mr. Perce- 1 Lministration, the widow of a gallant officer, in the breach before Ciudad Rodrigo—(he ,eneral eraufurd) was recommended by the lionourahle Opulent - ran 'himself ? he 44eved, 'rows, as a, fit Object of its bounty, and she £3OO a-year, with eloo to each of the chil- Tpon all these grounds he should- feel it his rl and painful duty not only of opposing t h e it but of dividirz the Mouse upon it. ;ICI-10L thought the provision was ha rdly act of justice ; for it should be remembered' Perceval had abandoned not only a lucra,' profession, but the most lucrative post of that His disinterestedness, also, formed a. Ipon tbe.vnesosity of the House in behalf mily.- He declined the office of Chancellor Duchy of Lancaster lor*life; though thele sance's of its havitig beeu so granted, and others to Lard Ashburton. When lucrative - became vacant, he did not vest them in his in:..-and when he was. appointed Elia Lord asnry, he declined the emoluments of the if Chancellor of the Exchequer, not fasten , but clandestinely as it were, by a simple, Mipute. bezli disinterestedness, he thought - be recorded ; and with ►egard to the itself, he dictnot consider the remuneration anted, at all adequate to the pecuniary lost ly had sustained by his death. NEW29RT could not but think that they hereafter should read of the grant they _were lied upon t., vote, would consider it _as a re , of the public services of Mr. 'Percev.il, and , view . pf it, he should vote agonistic. In thought the first grant had gone every length could go, short of acknowledging the pub of the sate Right Hon. Gentleman. .RHAM voted in favour of . the question, :ordant was it to the wishe . s,of the people, !Hived if every man in' England ci.tilu be An by man, each would sacrifice whatesfer afford towaidi accomplishing the object x -Ird to the case of Officers' V' lams, l.e'did it at all'analogousisfor an officer accepted satjon, knowing ri to be one of danger ; but .a had no reason to suppose he Should Pose his e execution of his duty. 1 /LANCIS BURLW/1 7 should be verry sorry expression of his could be construed 'rite a lessen the abhoirence he felt for the crime by Percival had been deprived of life ; but it the present moment ill calculated for of the public money. He deprecated as any than any tiiicussron en the public eha the man whose loss thy had to lament, yet' rot help saying; that, in his public canalcity iered him in a Welt far different from dm, he grad been represented by the Gentlemen 'far .from lOoking upon'him as entitled to phonies • of public constid,eration ;, he thought • olitical conduct willdeser vedi marked proofs _ ;ensure. In this, of coat se, .he begged to 'understood a speaking of the public character ! cof Ow itishvidtiet.' As to his priyateiirittes, 'd-wllat had been said on the subject, but Frig of it himself, • Priiate iirtues'nosiever id form a ground for a grant of public ma i() the compasion wkehrseetlefnen luta to excite jn fayour of-the Offering family, r-thet he felt as qiuch as any man oil such 1. be would be Willing and ready to'proyide A any pairivay, and wouid . coutribute as j #t-41119 to a sninCi iptit n for that put * a suar4imi of public ,putbe could .??!. that a single fartlihig should be drawn exhanated poCketi of th e peopl_., vnthcnt grounds being sliewn fdii the kiant.. 'l'fie Barpnelthen adverted to the general perique on aliflages - of People; 'end tip the heart *ties .prdistress'to Which The collecting of Aifie ' ,the.. In sne.# CifalthStipeei t be Aim .orient to.sueh ii grant ironiSie pirlilic money. APt . ie, then, irtihrt:44 l ; seemo aware of t h e . defiey of the grounds On whiehthef Were pre , and triprop their' bad 'a rid los the corn . c die Reuse. Bast, in* his opinion, tit* any person children, tc quatly pro too, that tt those feelin notable to advert to a -stood that from persor I fore, it tva survive. '1 the bounty done. What did t in the pension'of tisian. In ;Rif's Admi ho fell in meant Gen Might him to the Croy received Oren. Up unpleasant question, 4 Sir J. NJ going an a( that Mr. Pi Live professi -pnifession. claim upoi of his famil of the Du Were instan among pthe situations b own person of the Trea situation of tantiously, Treasury n: • deserved to question iu already grs ;tiff family 1 Sir J. Ni who hereaf then called cognition of upon that deed, he th • the Houie lic services Mr. 44 1 an so aCCI that he bet polled, Mal he could of With regar fug. think it the situatio Minister eta We in the e Sir F&A • that any ex, wish to which 'Mr. he_thOught grants out much a t t an racter of th he pouid no !)e consider - in Which he opposite. any tesgsac that his pol pf public t 4 *uptietsia aad not of believed' knew ficathil neyer A uld r ep t . Ai I attempted 1?e trusted , Subject I for ilferii:ki targaii s pa* ; not cons( ni front t k e ei adtqoate g Barn ipf toes of Fending Sc pelt gave cnold cowl • Ssine pep insufficient i l eding, Prff§ • • they had public grounds , or they had nose stall, for • nothing else could justify a grant of public money. It had heel, besides, unfairly represented, that Mr. I Perceval's life had been a continued scene of patrio-1 tic eacrifices for the good of his country ; this be' would venture to deny, nor could any man out of the House be induced to believe it. It was well known that Mr. Perceval himself and various branches of his family had been in the constant habit of re. ceiying considerable sums of the public money, nor could it be maintained, that a man who had prefer red the career of ambition to that of a fircrative pro. fession should be considered as a victim of patrietisu; after he had attained the eminent post which was the object of his eager pursuits. Such a man, surely, c:.uld not he said to have saerifieed the interest of his family for the sake of servingtis country. The' Honourahle Baronet concluded by observing that be approved of what had been done at first to relieve the sufferin4s of the afflicted family, but, however painful to his feelings, he should oppose the present grant, as Contrary to his sense of public duty. Lord JOCELYN declared, that standing upon the basis of puttlic principle, lie should think be only per e formed his public duty in voting in support of the question. Mr. HU4P§SON thought the Hon. Baronet's spees43 was , one which would have applied just as much against any grant at 411 as against the, resolu. tient then before. them—(Hear, hear.) With regard to the provision for the f a mily of M r . Pe r ceval, that [had already been-made. He still thought it wholly Inadequate, and especially in relation to the eldest son, who war-just on the eve of g oin g to the Univer sity, when his lamented lather was so unexpectedly taken away Rim him. Mr. HOME SUMNER supported the resolution. He pledged himself, that if Mr. Perceval's accounts were looked into, it would be found that he was a poorer man than when he went into office. Surely the provision could not be thought too large, When in the Bill of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Bankes) which had received the support of Gentlemen en the other side, it was provided that every future Chancellor of the Exchequer, after the framing of that bill, should received £5OOO a-year, after he had been five years in office ; a remuneration which Mr. Perceval might have enjoyed had he lived, and had the Prince Re gent thought fit to dismiss him from the situation'he held, and which, indeed, it might be therefore said he had fairly earned. The House then divided, when the-numbers were, For the-Resolution, 171 ; Against it, 16—Majority, 155. The Resolutions were consequently agreed to. On our readmission, we found the House receiving the Rayon of the Committee on the Glass Duties Acts. Mr. WHITBREAD expressed his opinion, that no subjects of this hind ought to be pressed till the Chancellor of the Exchequer was in his place. Mr. WHARTON yielded to the objection, and the further consideration of the Report was postponed till Monday. The Scots Taxes Bill was also postponed to the same day. '1 he Irish Road Bill was read a second time, and committed for Monday. Mr. DAVIS GIDDY gave notice, that he would to-morrow I move for the appointment of a Committee on the several High tway Acts. PETITIONS UPON THE DISTRESSAD STATE OP TRADE. . The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the Or den in Council. WILLIAM Hons. is an, of Spitalfiel4s, silk-manufacturer, was called, and examined by Mr. BROUGMA au He stated, In terms rilearly similar to former witnesses, that the trade in which he was engaged had decayed much of late, and that in his parish, of which he bad been overseer, nearly one half of the workmen were out of employment, and - many of them a.burtben on the parish. Mr. HALL was the next witness, and ta his era:Wm:don coin cided nearly with the preceding. Mr. S rsvessoit, silk-manufacturer, of Spitalfields, deposed to the general decay in that branch of trade, and the consequent disnussal of large proportion of the hands employed by him, both in Reading and London: Mr. Wtoote, bf Manchester, general dealer and merchant, was next examined at considerable length,"telative to,the state of the trade with America, and the rate of exchange between that country and London, at different periods before and since the mornultation of the Or4ers in Countil. Mr. 1. R. J amity, of London, who stated himself to be en gaged in the American trade, was text called ; and some more witneaacs having giien their testimony, the House resumed, and the Chairman reported progress, and obtained leave to sitagain. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at finli-past Two o'Clock to this Day. ~..._. IMPORT:INT. COMMUNIC47'ION. PAPERS RELATIVE TO LORD •LIVERPOOL'S PROPOSAL 10 LORD WELLESLEY, MAY 17, 1812. (COPY)—No. T. NOTE from Mr. CANNING to Lord WELLESLEY, fillelOgillt the MINI/ re taken in Lord LiveAro° if presence, May 17,1112. •• Gloucester Lodge, Mty 17, 1512. MY DRAR WELLESLEY—a inclose the Minute which", I have taken in Lord Liverpool's presence of the proposal which he was charged to convey to me. Ever, my dear Wellesley, Sincerely and affectionately. your's (Signed) GEORGE CANNING. 1 P. S. I shall return a *written answer to Lord Li verpool to-morrow. (ENCLOSURE—No. I.) ' Mrtstrrg Of CONVIIIIIATION be Mr. CANNING and Lord Livaaroot, dated 17th May, lull. Gloucester Lodge. Sunday, May 17,1112. • Lord Liverpool stated to me that he was command, ed'hy his Royal Highness the Prince Regent to make me the following communication : That upon the melancholy event of Mr. Porcevtlis. death his Royal Highness being desirous of continu ing his Administration upon its present basis, was desirous.also of strengthening it as muck as possible, by associating to it such persons in public life as agreed most nearly and generally in the principles -upon which public affairs had been conducted; That with this view hi, Royal Highness naturally looked to Lord Wellesley and to me ; That. Ile (Lord Lieetwol) was authorised to ex press the disposition of all his coll.agues to act with Lord Wellesley and Me, ender an arrangement which might be ap once consistent' with their own honour ail duty,- and ktnourable and satisfactory po us ; pat with respect to Lord Castlereagh, it was fair that it should be diitinetly understood, that the situ. .ation in winch he stands • kioth i4s this C r pverniirnt, anti in the House of Cogonotts, was to presetved to hioll That with Telma ofEcial errangements, ht (Lord Liverpoo l wou4 not e haYe been the bearer of • tun,' propositivo to me, bit one which was tiriderstoosi is cpmprisinglny (Fiends. answer to a questior put by me, rd LeerpOol stated; that his colleainez were deeloma, that he should be appointed to the office of Tint Lord of the Treasury.; and that 'IA desire was known tq the Ptinee Regent, when his iLoyil flightless commanded 43-4 Liverpool to up dertake this communication. Lord Liverpool added, that he was ready to an, swer any other enquiry that I might wish to make; ,or to clearup any thing that he might hre imper ' feat,' explained. I said, that 1 'thought it better to ~receive his communication just as he gave it to me and to defer making any remark, or giving any in , swer whatever, until I should have communicated it to my friends t Lord Liverpool himself undertaking to see Lord Wellesley. I would only, therefore, ask,—Whether I was to consider the opinion and policy of the Government as remaining altogether unchanged upon the qua don relating to the Laws affecting the Roman Ca tholics ? Lora Liverpool answered, that his own opinions upon this subject remained unchanged ; and that he wits not aware that those of his Colleagues had un dergone any change. I then wrote this Minute in Lord Liverpool's pre sence ; which he resit over, and suggested such cor rections as appeared to him necessAry tvr making it perfectly accurate: (signed) GEORGE CARNING. No. 11. OT towards tile int*** 4 a Canning should net c But I added, that Mr. CAII6 zemertr to me, which could any O ffi ce which might be he other hand, Mr. C..inei g e same declaration with jjk ; 10m. Lord Liverpool aid, ler co th o:se pres of en Tcovn t ciremstance. rminicat m . t, unless a fair ProPawki was I declared to Lord L. dual talents and services, !the country, in which Mr. , it high efficient station. But .. Ring was under no engagement preclude his aceiAance of offered to him ; that, on the would certainly make the . prd to my perfect freedom. that he had pursued this being,concinced, that under I would not accept Office ? ' made to Mr. Canning; ,a 1 Liver. pool, that he was correct in this ,Sew :sf my semi, ments towards Mr. Calming i repeating, howev er . that Mr. Canning and I were perfectly free td Let as each might think fit, and that our agreentecit in RIVE great public principles, soottld not agect 9uenjofts of Imere official arrangement. bthly, I expressed my wish to receive this cream* nication in writing ; to answerit in4riting, and*. to submit my senuments upon the whole transactioa in an audience of the Prince itegent.- i Lnrd Liverpool informed me, that Mr. Can_n 4 would transmit to me a copy of the Mtaute of Lo Liverpool's conversation taken in his presen ce , and Lord Liverpool desired me Co consider that Nag as the written communication which I wished tole. ceive. I agreed to Lord LiverpoorspropoFel e di point. I then informed Lord Liverpool. that I wo w return my answer in writing to that Paper. Whor e ," might be the tenor of my answer, with regard to the great public considerations, on which It num b e founded, rexpressed my hope, that Lord Liverpo o l would be enured of my sincere personal respect and esteem. I now transmit this Minute to m le er . pool, requesting him to insert any ecnrection which he may think requisite. (Signed) we.Lescer. May is, 181 e. Correeted by Lord Liverpool, and retun e d c o ha r. (Signed) ws.t.usta. • No. W. NoTt from Mr. eurunio to Lord Wit., t Lrr. soduhis Letter to Mr. CA/IMO.° frOOII.O24LITILIOO2I, midge% Lord CAI ttttt ACII. Ildnrere eCONTIMATHIN betortes Marc* WI LL t ILLY and ' • Lordl.tvaattoos, 17th May; 181 e. Apsky-House, May 37, 11112, 4 past 6, p ia. Lord Liverpool came to me immediately atter his visit to Mr. Canning, and• remained with me for about half an hour. Soon after Lord Liverpool's departure, I received the annexed paper from *Mr. Canning*. . Lord Liverpool's conversation with ere was sub. stantially the same as that which is described to have passed with Mr. Canning, Any difference which ap peared, arose necessarily from my questions and ob servations, which were made witrout knowledge of what passed between Lgrd Liverpool and Mr. Can. • niez. Atttr receiving Lord Liverpool's verbal corn- - (COPT) muaicatipn, nearly in the terms stated by Mr. Cap- " atiereester-Ludir 4 5anday nigtir, kit? 17, Mt. ning, I inquired, ! MY DEAR WELLTsI.FX-11 have ' test receivedh a n W 1 Ist, Wl' t was to be the policy of the Government Lord I..iverpool a letter, of . whic h the enclosed is a ' with relation to the Roman Catholics ? - • ' copy. I transmit it to you to be lidded, accordiaits To this question Lord Liverpool returned the same hi s d es i re , to the copy of the Minute of his ~.„4..1 answer stated in Mr. Canning's paper, to have been cornmimication of this morning. returned to a similar question. ! Ever affectionatelryones, Si* II! 2dly, I observed to Lord Liverpool, that he was (::OPY.r-In No. Ill) apprised of my opinion, that our effot is in the Penin. . ' teed Ltvaitroos to Mr. CANNSMIL stela had been conducted on an inadequate and ire = (Private) ' perfect scale, which could pot be expected to accent . - ! Mr DIA& CUMIN°, Me heese.Msvl7,lBllt plish the ultniate objects of the war in that quarter. I I think, upon reflection, if jitdne to Lord Cod % 'That I had for a lung time considered an extension reagh to state, in writing . what I mentionedte e z of our sj stem in the Peninsula to be indispensably verbally, that from •mouves of delicacy, heib necessary, and easily practicable :" that I was aware himself from the Cabinet, on the oeigions qa 'Sidi of the impropriety (in my present situation) of urging the subject in your.Memortuidum was determined. any detailed qtn-s:ions to Lord Liverpool en this I did not, however, make the communicetim m point; but, that I mentioned it now, because it must you, without having reason to know that he form a principal consideration in my answer to the be n o o b stac l e in t h e wa y o f an arrangement , proposition %%bid' he had brought to me. • •on the principles stated in the Metno;andum. Lord Liverpool cll.:, that he did not agree in my' I will beg of you to communicate this lemma, opinion respecting the scale of the efforts which we persons to whom you . may' communicate the Slow had hitherto made in the Peninsula, which he thou g ht ran dum. (Signed) I.IIII2IKAL as great as it had been possible to make ; that there le** alike Hoe . Gertrsi ClutoloS. . never had been any limit to our exertions i n th a t 1 MN Cation to Lord Ltirasreet. quarter, but what arose out of the question of prac.: Mr etas Laval/vet. ' oleseeesselistfee.bissiknic ticability (that is, the means of increasing and su p-; 1 have communicated tq stub of my friends's - ii plying our armies), •and that-he had never heard any , had an immediate opportunity of consulting, tbetlit specific plan, by which those means might have-been' nute, taken in your preseum, of the propos:too Audi carried further, though the subject had been often you conveyed to me yesterday. • most anxiously considered in my pre s ence : t h at c i r - ; I n a case I n which I felt that my decision eit= cumstances had occurred since my resignation, which might be liable to misapprehension, I was did not then exist, and into the particulars of which rather to collect the opinions of person whose jot it would not be proper for him to cuter at this time, meet I esteem, than to act on the impulse of ary erg which might enable Government to extend, to a cer- ; first feelings. . . tain degree, the military operations in the Peniosula, I The result of their opinions is, that, by mpoili and the system of himself and his colleagues Would ' into the Administration upon the testi; A R be, as he contended they alway had been, to make I me, I should incur such a loss of per sad poi the greatest efforts in t h e cause of th e Pe n i n s u l a , ch aracter as would disappoint the object 'lda bil which the resources of the country rendered possible. I Royal Highness the Prince Regent has at boort ; ail Sdly, 1 inquired whether all the general constitu. must render my accession to his Goyernmeqt a ear ent parts if the present Cabinet were to remain ? He ; source of weakness rather than an addition of arms* informed me that they were in general to remain.— I To become* part of your Adminimratiqn with* , He believed it was known to me that some of the !previous knowledge of your unaltered opitnom 4 5 0 Members of thp Cabinet had been long desirous of : the policy of resisting all consideration of'ds mad retiring, and would be ready the, efore now to afford ,: the lastri affecting his Majesty's Roman Catholics'''. facilities to any new :a . angement.. I jests, would, it is felt, be to lend myself to the dr. , • 'ln answer to a question put by me respecting Loyd' featieg of my own declared opinions on t h at mess Sidm.odi and his friends, he said they were to re.; important question :—opinions 'which are as tit 33 twain. those of any man from being favourable to PotiP 6 4th . ly, I stated to Lord Liverpool, that I made no 1 tate and unqualified concession ; but which rep ' the conviction that it is the duty of the advisees a i the Crown, with a view to the peace, tranquillity, 1 strength of the empire, to take th at whole yes* into their early and serious consideration k and ear neatly to endeavour to bring it to 4 fi nal and stti ste!! wry settlement. . With this result c.f the opinions of thous 1 1 1b 101‘ have consulted my own entirely concurs; lit. being the ground of my decision, it j was* .. ': cessary to advert toasty espies ofit;krtor i After the expressions, however, with whiFb Tuf were . charged on the part of ail your zlka)cutte I preo lj should not be warranted in omitting to dolour ! no objection of a personal sort should have . • me front uniting with any, or all of them, in the lic service , it 1 could have done so with honour; an l it, in any judgment, a Cabinet, so constituted is au its, pasts, could have of prded to the country t under its present great and various diirscnltinti Sh ?degO tel l efficient Administration. I cairn(); deny myself the satisfaction of 040 that the manner of tour commenieatioo with of , has entirely corresponded with the habits and no* meats of a friendslOp of aq many Tenn I a which pur general concurrence Oa flint g;ilTria g. .cal principles has sningthened, and whs4 ea NOM sional didereneesl;ive in go degree impaired. ~...' On the public grounds which I have stated; I luou entreat you to Lay at the feet of the Prince R. 'together with the warmest eitEeri‘,' ci aa n c r o fi 411 attaches,* to his Royal •nightsregt acknowledgment for the favourable nott,_!, * -.,. his Royal kisilineishas.beeo grisionqra mmt° ' to te tet;ain• of me t saT koroblo blif Pa r: c, i excused from accepting o ffi ce on tee , . "t sacrifice stpulilic 6214*i/411We render nnr for the striae of his gaging[ Highness's 0 10 =,.. si ii I pressen)* et the kard. WWI , b ung) ; t e—:.....Th" 7 iir ' awl** of the Psince Reges; Jo! soP4r - - 4? explaining * ** Purfol P *IP, .Y•WM ~ • ' • • Sealer. caeiiar 0 s keeps (110. • in4uiry respecting the prop os ed distribution and allo cation of offices ; because that circumstance would not constitutettre basis of my-decision upon the pro position which he had brought me. Lord Liverpool observed, that the distribution of offices was a matter open to future adjustment, to be regulated for the ho.tour of all parties. 450:1y, When Lord Liverpool informed me that " the leadiog" in the II use of Commons was to be preserved to Lord Castlereagh; I remarked, that is any situation which I might ever hold in any Admi-. nistration, I should feel great obligation to any Metb bet. of the Government who would undertake -that charge which was called " the leading," in the HOUSE of Parliament in wl.kh I sat, although I was fully aware of the great importance which that charge rev cessarily conveyed to the person who exercised it, and of the great influence whi c h i t m us t g i ve to hi m is ' the general administration and patronage of the Go. eernment. 6tbly, I desired to know, whether all those persons now designated by the name .of the " Opposition," were to be excluded from th e p ro p ose d sc h eme 4 Admjnixtration ? LorcrLiverpool answered, that no principle of e1t.. 1 elusion was intend e d ; but that he was not authorizes!' to make any proposal ;q any *sons of the descrip. Lion which I had mentioned. 7thly, Cainsidevin,l the course, which Lord Liver. pool had observed, in Making this communication, I asked him, wheiher he applied to me by command of the Prince Regent, as a part of Mr. Canniog's 'nice? remistded Lord i;iverticrol of the constant and one abated exertions which I hack made to open every avenue foi / the return of Mr. 'Canning to the public service, remarking at the sam e Ome, c har I ee'ver had itteinoted to press that point, beyond the lapnour and ?celings of. Mr. percevaPs Administration. meted, • .ika't I could' not considef kny Adminisuitifin . tti . he zonstitutO 00 fotidat4 of justice towards mdi;4e Ylie Mr. ;No ire •