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is the &alfordshire Potteries; by Mr. Waxes Homy, from the Inhabitants of Neweastle.under-Lyme; by Mr. nauseous% (join Youghall; and by Mr. STANLEY, from Solihull, in the courtly of Tipperary.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. D. W. HARVEY, in presenting a counter peti tion from the Minister and Congregation of Protestant Dissenters assembled at Beresford C h apel in Walworth, rn thy cnunty of•Sarrey,said, that he had been directed by tie petitioners Instate thatohnugh their feelings were de ei hostile to the admission of Roman Catholics to political power, they would have been contented to leave the matter to the decision of his Majesty's Government, had it not been for two circumstances which had lately occurred. In the first place, the Protestant Dissenters who had assembled at Redcross-street, in London, to petition on the subject, had assumed to themselves a corpnrate character, while they denied that character to the Protestant Dissenters in the country. It had been said that those Dissenters who now petitioned against Catholic Emancipation acted an ungrateful and mum sistent part—that they acted an ungrateful part inas much as they had looked for and obtained last year the same concessions; but it should be recollected that the repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts was a matter of right and not of favour; and they contended that in pe titioning against further concessions to the Roman Ca tholics they acted with perfect consistency, because they looked upon the Roman Catholics as the advocates of a church establishment, and themselves the rivals of the Protestant church. The Dissenters, on the contrary, were the enemies of any church establishment. As far as the declaration of the principles of the Dissenters went he (Mr. Harvey) perfectly coincided with the pe titioners; and if he could not support the prayer of the petition it was not because he advocated the present measures on the principle of right or abstract justice, . but because he thought they were expedient, if not ab solutely necessary. SURRIT PSTITION. Mr. C. PALLMER had the honour of presenting to the House a Petition from the county of Surrey against the intended alteration of the Constitution in favour of the Roman Catholics. When he stated that this Peti Con had beer. agreed to at a very numerous and highly re•peltable meeting of that great and populous and enlightened county, regularly convened, and at which the High Sheriff presided ; that it had been carried, after considerable discussion, by a very large majority, i• must be unnecessary for him to add, that if any Peti- ti , n of the people could be entitled to the attention of Parliament it was such a Petition—(Mr. Ulmer then read the Petition).—He (Mr. Pannier) could add nothing w its irrefragable arguments, nor would he di pinisli their tome by the weakness of his own observa• %ions- ; lie had too frequently renvristrated with the House upon its dangerous and unconstitutional course, and he Eck unspeakable gratification in the reflection that this important Petition had proved beyond all doubt that he had done so in common with the feelings and the wishes ef those who had for a time entrusted their right; and their interests to his care, and where intelligence. educat'on, information, wealth, and every 'other qualification, enabled them to form as sound a judgment upon this question as any other body of men either in ni out of this linuse. Mr. DENISON admitted all that the Hon. Member E s ad ►aid w Ills tespect to the numbers and the respeeta• Wily of those ss his had signed the petition, but he denied that ex vri•ssed the sentiments of the county of Surrey. He begged t , ) say one wurd of the manner in which the petition had Linen got up. On the Jay on which the n eeting was held the r'ads leading to Epsom were crow ded whh peop'e actually loaded with inflammatory placards; and the Gentleman who had seconded the petition aro. ed on the busti igs that he had himself distributed the placard headed " Queen Mary's Days." The Tract S.ciety had only printed, but had not dis tiibuted it. The Ho , '. Men.ber dwelt on the benefits which would be desired from passing the present Bill, and conch ded by saying, that after his Majesty should lave given his as eta to it, he would be die first Sove reign n the universe. The Petition was ordered to be printed. C. PA LLMER presented Petitions to the same effect from two parishes in the county of Surrey. Ma a Petition ream. mending the introduction of Poor Laws into Ireland. Colonel WOOD presented a Petition against furtherCongessions to the Boman Catholics from the county of Brecon. It bad ema nated from a meeting of that county regularly convened, and was signed by 564 individuals. Mr. STANLEY presented a Petition from the same county, signed by the High Sheriff of the county, by eleven Magistrates, I. Ara.: 'ma. and four Clergymen, in favour of Emancipatioo. Mr. PONSONBY likewise presented a Petition from the pa rish of St. Audeon, in the city of Dublin, against the Disfranchise. matt of the Forty Shilling Freeholders. Sir C. COOT* presented a Petition from the Corporals and tiinnmers of the Queeo's County Regiment against the reduction the militia. .Lord PALMERSTON rose to present a Peados from Mr. George Ensor against the B il l for Didranchislog the Forty Shil ling Fre/Midas. The Noble Lord read the prayer of the petition. The SPEAKER inquired whether the Petition did not refer to something that had been said in that House? Lord PALMERSTON replied, that the Petition certainly did We, to what bad Plea in One of the Houses of Parliament. The SPEAKER—Then I am sure the Noble Lord won't put is to me so as to snake it necessary for me to put to him to with draw the petition.—The petition was withdrawn. Lord MILTON prettented a Petition front the owners of war- wed:mills in findford, privies the Horne to make some inquiry into the practice of employing children in the manufacture of wotsted. The Nobk Lord said, that some pear ago great com plaints were made of the injury done to the health of children by -employing them in cotton mills. Those complaints led to an in quiry, which was attended with most satisfactory results; and the petitioners were now anxious that an inquiry should also be insti. towed *dative SO the state of the health of the children emyloyed in the worsted manufacture —The petition was ordered to be printed. Mr. H. MAXW ELL presented Petitions against any further concessions to the Roman Catholic, from the Orangemen of the Eastern Division of London ; from the Teachers and Supporters of the Sunday Schools in the Western Division of Leaden; from the Associate Congregation of Ayr; from the palish of St. Katherine. Dublin ; from five parishes in the county of Monaghan : and from tour parishes in the county of Down. Similar Petition% were presentedby Mr. Weans', from the Royal Burgh of Anstrother; by Sir IC. Koareoseu., from Northend, bowel ; and by Me. Ceaten. from three parishes in *HMO Mr. H. GRATTAN presented a Petition from a parish in Wick !ow against the Forty Shilling Freeholders' Disquali fi cation Bill. Sir. BKALTAIObIT Renewed a Fithian from Blythe, in favour of the Roman Catholic Claims. Mr. Secretary PEEL preowned Petition' from Crossboynt, in the county of Mayo. and Kihourcey, in the earreit's Comity, is Itvout of the Catholic Belief Bill. O r g e wy PEEL also Prefenlell a Petition from Mallow. praying that the provhions of the MO Frettibolders' Qualification /fill should be extended to that Borough. After a few observations from Mr. Janine, Admiral Evans, .arii Mr. O. Laws, the petition was ordered to he printed. Mr. H. MAXWELL presented Pathless from the Corporal', Sergeants. and Drummers et the Cavan Militia, and of the Mo naghan Militia.—Ordered to be printed. EDINBURGH PETITION. Sir J. MACINTOSH, in rising to present this Pcti Orin, said, that although he was perfectly aware it vas sutural and reasenable for the House to feel impatient as being occupied for any 'ength of time in the discus. 6 , 1)11 of Petitions, yet he hoped they would not object t hi:ur h i m s tate the noltilff as seed as some particulars of the pteseat, and that they would not deem him pre buliptuous in briefly addressing them on this occasion, More especially as he had not attempted to engross any wriest of their attention on the schen!' emotion. The - r4fifisw xbisb be bad the boooot of holding in his baud was heat Ediebeigh, and in favour of the Kunsan Ca-1 tholic Claims, or, in other words, from four: fifths of those classes of society who were, not , ' the levelling „spirit lately beaks in upon the lower benches of that Hon e. called the most respectable classes of the com munity in the iicient capital of the most Protestant, part or this great Protestant empire—a capital which in his opinion was, by the very act of presenting this Peti tion to pray the Legislature to pass this Bill into a law, performing one of the most noble duties of its high office, as the protecting guardian of the Protestant interests in Europe. This Petition was agreed to is an assembly unparalleled io the history of Scot land—it was voted by a Meeting attended by upwards of two thousand persons, and voted by four.fifths, some say nine-tenths, of those who, uotil thelateinno vation upon the ranks of life, by some Gentlemen in that House, were usually considered the most respect able clas.es of society. It was signed by a number somewhat under 8,000; to the names of the individuals were attaehed their several places of abode; a most severe scrutiny was made into the identity of every sig. nature • all the precautions which could be devised were ta ken to prevent improper subscriptions; so that, whatever imprudence might have been committed by other persons employed in preparing Petitions, these petitioners were free from the slightest imputation—in deed, they had adopted a practice which it would have been well had been imitated by others; they had issued notices disavowing all hand-bills and placards except those which were issued under the signature of their own Secretary. Very different had been the conduct of others in the city of Edinburgh touching this subject. An author was found to write a pamphlet, which he (Sir J. Macintosh) would not quote, unless be was compelled to do so by some more distinct allusion to it, but which was one of the most daring and trea sonable libels against the House of Brunswick, as heirs to the Princess Sophia, upon the throne of these realms, under the Act of Settlement, that had ever been pub lished. Of all the libellous delinquencies of the last six weeks—of all the libels upon the House of Brunswick which had issued from the Scottish press since the battle of Culloden, none had reached the degree of that to which he had alluded, but would not quote, as he had already said, unless pressed for the purpose. Indeed, of it he would only say, that it required no little legal discrimination to draw the line between the seditious and treasonable import of that work. When he pto nounced this opinion upon its criminality, sorry should he be that the author obtained the honours of martyr• dons, to which he had perhaps aspired, and the law of high treason should be applied to punish his delinquen- 1 cies. In answer to the new democratists upon the lower benches, he was under the necessity of stating the cha racter end names of some of the petitioners in whose behalf he now claimed the attention of the House. This petition from the city of Edinburgh was signed by seven' Pees', their sons, or Privy Councillors, 2.5 Knights of the Bath or Baronets, 155 Gentlemen of considerable landed property, I SO practisingAdvocates at the Scottish bar, leaving scarcely a dozen names of the profession who had not signed it, thus completing the high and distinguished union, w hich was formed upon this ques tion with the Protestant bar of England, whose Peti tion was last night presented by his Hon. and Learned Friend, its head and ornament (Sir James Scarlet* and the Protestant and Catholic bar of Ireland, proudly re cording the general consent of the legal profession in all parts of Greet Britain and Ireland—of these official professors of British law throughout the kingdom who oppose their opinions to those invaders of the Constitu tion who deny the hereditary right of the reigning family to the Crown, and assert the privilege of altering the succession at their pleasure. These exclusive doc trines have now received their fullest contradiction upon the authority of the united knowledge of the bar of the three kingdoms. The petition was also signed by 50 Divines, comprehending the chief Dignitary of the Church of England and Scotland, and several Mi. nisters o; that Church; and including likewise the sig natures of those who were once more anti-papal than any other class of Divines, and in that respe t exceed ing in orthodox all other dissenters from the Church of Scotland. It was likewise honoured by the signalises of the Rev. Principal of the Scottish Metropolitan Uni versity, and of 16 of the Professors of that renowned body, forming a great majority of its members. There were the names of 21 bankers, in a city, too, be it re membered, where so much f the commercial business was transacted by banking establishments : there were the names of 60 General Officers, 40 Colonels, S 2 Admiral,, Captains, and other Officers of the Nary; of 198 Physicians and Surgeons; and of 600 Gentle men of various other branches of the law, be.ides advocates; and 250 merchants and traders of great re spectability. If any addition were wanting to give dis tinction to this list, he could add, that it was signed by all the considerable men of the two parties who had divided Edinburgh betwt en them in conflis.t ng opinions, until the happy introduction of this measure, which had sunk all party spirit into oblivion, with perhapS the ex ception of some few persons, opium whose respectability he should not toseaihe one nowt. Had these names been arrayed six weeks in a Peiitibn, they would have been assigned to the Tories and Whigs; but now thee distinctive appellations bad been lost in the union of all patties to retrofits a great act of national justice. There were, besides, appended to this petition no common names. At the bead of the requisition. and near the head of the Petition, was the name of a great and illustrious man, who might justly be called the most celebrated writer now living in the whole world, who had given mote delight to the greatest number of human beings, in the same space of time, than any man who had ever preceded bun in the walks of literature could boast of, any. what was perhaps still more pertinent to the present subject, a man as much above the common race of men in the attribute of common sense and sound understandingos he was their universally admitted sow n r in genius and fame—he need not adJ,thal the person to whom he alluded was the illustrious Sir Walter Scott. Next that great name, be was entitled to place another, as connected with this subject, though not connected either by country or signature with this p , cation; and here he was at the same time doomed to indulge a me- lancholy reflection. Next to the first name in British literature he could place the first name in British science —he meant that of Sir H. Davy. who, though now .:cooping on the bed of sickness, and suffering under the pangs of debility and disease, had yet mental firm. ness and solid judgment sufficiently unbroken. to ex press by letter the glow and joy he derived upon bear ing in a foreign land the glad tidings of the introduction of this Bill, which, he said, he hailed as an honour to his religion and his country—(lfeer, heat). At the bead of those who to. k a must active part in the business of the Llinbuigh meeting was Sir James Moncrieffe —he who was elected by unanimous suffrage Desn of Faculty of Advocates, and who. independent of that high honour, enjoyed a more extensive legal practice than any of his great pries:n*l'ot s bad ever approached. And here he a ould cite—et to exasperate passions, but as something to appease and conciliate them—that Sir James Monet-idle was the son of one of the brightest lights of the church of Scittlandothose venerable presence atoll rose in his mind, combining is it did 40.Am:seta of one of the primitive fathers di the shush with the port and bearing olai Pendent= olanciept blitorf r in a whit h he had wane 'before seettaoited :in any , pan. sir J. Moncrieffii inherited .811 she virtuisidfi his ; father, and was, like him, the inviolatricandiofirmaup porter of the Protestant church . As, such, with heart and hand he had -subscribed this petition, and he bad no doubt his revered father, had he lived to this time, would have set him the example of doing He would call their attention, in the next instance, to an individual who had signed-this petition, than whom no man was moreaminent for exemplary piety. extensive lemming and information, or for sincere anxiety for the welfare of or attachment to the Protestant faith. Be felt they must already be aware be alluded to that ornament of his profession—Dr. Chalmers. Whatever might be the sentiments of that intelligent and eminent man on parts of this great question, he begged that no one would imagine for a moment that it was possible Dr. Chalmers could consider this concession as the effect of a strugee between the Popish and Protestant religion. He, on the contrary, begged with the utmost sincerity, that the Le gislature would disencumber theEstablishedChurchfrom the deceitful protection derived from disahilities imposed I on our Catholic fellow-countrymm•that t heH ou se would relievereligion from the ambiguous armour which could add nothing to its capability of defence. He felt as that eminent father of the Church St. Austin is related to have felt many ages since, when the aid of the civil or armed power of the State was tendered to him by the Pro Consul, for the protection and support of the African Church. That excellent and exemplary Divineateplied. that he should indeed despair of the African Church, If it stood in need of the inter position of the Pr o-Consul of Africa. He would ask Hon. Members who-dig/et ed with himself, where could they find amongst the lights of the age and country in which he lived, a name more eminent or distinguished than Bishop Jemmy Taylor? And that, be thought with the petitioners in this instance. and with St. Austin in the case alluded to. was proved from the remarkable expression to be found in his words, where, speaking of the aids , which might be deri ved by religion Ron civil institu tions, he, in language forcible and bold es the subject required, described all reliance on such aids as those as a distrust in GOD to maintain his own cause and his own people. He felt it necessary here to defend those who were in the situation of the petitioners from an inference attempted very unfairly to be drawn by the enemies of concession—namely, that toleration was in this particu lar case a math of indifference to the interests of reli gion. As well might it be assumed that we ex ? osed our Established Church to the hazard of being sup planted by the idolatrous worst.ip of the lirasninical religion, because we, in our vast empire in India, maintained the strictest union with the professors of that false and idolatrous faith, exercising the most watchful care over their interests, the protection of their persons from violence, and their plop, rty from invasion or injustice, and contributing Wet ly.to the maintenance of seminaries endowed for the very purpose of dissemina in g the most absurd doctrines and idolatrous creed—(Hear). He would only trouble the House with one more remark, which he felt himself called on imperatively to make; it referred to the effect which the conduct of the Legislature in removing Ca tholic disabilities would probably have on the Protes tants scattered throughout other countries of Metope. That effect it might be difficult to calculate. but weer tainly would be great. It was certain that at present Protestants were completely shut out from a vast num ber of places of trust and political station in the two countries Smith of the Pynennees; that in Italy they were only capacitat. d by a palpable evasion ; that in France,nbese they were very numerously scattered, they were disqualified in many instances,although many situa tions were open to them both there and in Austria. There was every reason to believe that a liberal line of con duct towards the Catholics of this country would pro duce an assimilated liberality on the part of those Go vernments towards their Protestants subjects; but it was perfectly certain that the worst consequences towards the professors of the Protestant faith would result from the defeat of the present liberal and enlightened attempt t f oar own Government to relieve our Catho lic fellow.countrymen from civil disabilities. It would become those who professed themselves so anxious for the Protestant cause, to ponder well what might be the possible retaliative measures resorted to by other Governments towards their Protestant subjects, or what might be the injuries or injustice to which those sub jects of Governments, in some instances arbitrary, and in more than one tyrannical, might be exposed, should the beneficent intentions of his Majesty and his Majesty's Ministers be thwarted and successfully op posed by their own absurd prejudices and unjustifiable hostility. Mr. Burke had denominated Sir George S - vine's Bill in 1758, as a Bill framed for the toleration of Protestantism all over Europe. That such was the fact no one would deny; but how much more truly might it be predicated of the measure sow in its progress through Parliament? To entertain alarm, for the Pro .estant faith, and make it the ground for the rejection of this measure. was none than absurd in these days of genial enlightenment. In fact, the arguments were all the other way, and went distinctly to prove that the effect of these concessions would be to support, secure, and strengthen our Protestant constitution, these Pro testant kingdoms, and the Protestant faith ; nor could the opposers of the measure, he thought, after they had reflected on the possible, or rather certain consequences which its rejection would have on the fate of the Pro. testants of other countries, shelter themselves from the imputation—an imputation replete with disgrace aid dishonour—that they had by their triumphaht opposi tion rather proved their hatred to their Catholic fellow country men, than their love for their Protestant brethren. On anodes that the Peddos should he brought up. Mr. TRANT did not deny the right of the distin guished and eminent individuals who had signed that Petition to approach the Legislature for the porpoises therein stated, and for declaring their opinions to the House on the Roman Catholic question. The right of petition was what be would be • the last man in that House to deny, but he would never consent to surren der the opinions of that House in deference to the sen. detente of any body of his Majesty's subjects; though he confessed he felt a little surprised at hearing his Right Honourable Friend who spoke last endeavour to undervalue the Petitions which came to that House from the large proportion of the community which wu posed to the admission of Roman Catholics to political power. In the olden times it had been the practice of that Right Honourable Gentleman and those who thought with him to talk of the majesty of the people —the sovereignty• of the people. When he (Mr. Trent) was a boy, and his Right Hon. Friend a full grown man—(a laugh)—the world heard little from him that was not full of the majesty of the people ; but now his tone was changed. The present Petition he considered any tLtng but decisive of the opinions of the people of Scotland. True it wee, that 'in the first city in !cot land— a modern Athens, as it was called—some of the laoyets, the physicians, and others of some note, had signed the petition then before the House, but sh ee, he was pomaded the House would agree with him, w" by no means decisive of public opinion in Scotland.... His Right Hon. Friend had expressed much surpri se ;th t he(%lr.T.), his friends in Parliament, and som e „ d d sort of people out of doors, who contend that vi far from religion having nothing to do with the present question, contended that it had every thing to-do with it. Apart from any consideration derived from history,he knew net how any man who looked even at passing events could doubt that the prevent was quite as much a religious as; political question. Thus, on a recent occasion, when a procession was hid in Ireland in honour of the Cud" Saint, and a green flag carried, any one who did not bow does and worship was instantly denounced ; Pi °team Church was broken into,aod the Bible burned. With such facts before their eyes, must they not are a ith him that the time had come when they must look to their religion? England, Wales, thePratestant pm. tions if Ireland and Scotland, bad declared that the time had arrived at which it was time to look to at religious independence. That, he sincerely believed, was the feeling of the empire at large; it seas his dose. viction, and he would maintain it to the last hour ofilie eistel.ce. Sir bH. INGLIS observed, that the Right Wawa able OE cleman had asserted that the question was oar not between Pi otestaut and Catholic. Now be (Sir L H. Inglis) eould observe, that it was not a question—. as that Right Hon. Gentl-man bad said—a question betweeo toleration and iiiioleraisce. It was one of the greatest, and, in this cake, the most mischievous, ewer that any man could fall into, that of stating this to be a question of toleration. instead of describing it, as it was, a question of admission to poli ical power ; and he could not b t regard it-as a gross perversion of the language of Bishop Jeremy Taylor, for what he said had reference to religious toleiation, and by no means to political power. The Right Honourable Gentle. man bad said that the R 00144 Catholics had on their side the .highest Authority in the Scotch Church. To that be woull reply, that, on the other side, there was ,at least thesecood authority in that learned and verve. table body. The Petitions which had been presented to the House proved that not only a majority of the Clergy, but a maj irity of the Laity of Scotland wee opposed to further concessions to the Roman Catholics. There bad been Petitions from the ministers, elders, !litigants of parishes, synods, and almost every form which Scotch society assumes; and yet, in the face of all those Petitions, they were told that the people of Scotland were favourable to the proposed innovation upon the Consteutiro. Sir G. MURRAY said that the Church,-the Bat, the medical profession, and other authorities whose fame spread into the most distant countrie., had given . the weight of their support to the Catholic cause. Hit wished to supply an omission of the Right Honourable Gentleman, namely, that which related to the OCCAIIa which gave rise to the present petiti .n. There hal bees put forth an advertisement respecting an anti• Catholic petition, in which the people of Edinburgh were told that, if the Roman Catholic Claims were acceded to, they _would have nothing but Popish Lords of &aim, Popish Church Patrons, Popish schoolmasters in pa. ashes. die. Ice. It was to meet the effects of such mio representations as these that the meeting was got up, from which the present petition proceeded. It must be manifest to the House that such an advertisement proved either the grossest ignorance, or a deliberate at tempt to create delusion. Mr. S. BOURNE conceived, that by whatever term the measure alluded to might be called, whether a measure of prudence, of policy, or of necessity, it certainly could not with propriety be denominated by the term toleration" cl al Mr. C. GRANT was quite of opinion that the peo ple of Scotland had manifested their opinion on the Catholic Question. He could not but observe that it was rather remarkable th.t the party of alarmists who, at the time of the Union, thought the Church in danger, I had successors in the present day who referred to the Articles of Union for the purpose that they were ia• leaded as safeguards of the ProtestaLt religion. Mr. H. DRUMMOND observed, that although the question of Catholic Emancipation had been entertained three or four times by the Convocation in Scotland, )et there never bad been a Petition got up by that body on the subject. The present Petition was a proof of the in telligent naiad of the best class of people in Scotland.— In proof of that assertion he would remark, that of all the representatives of Scotland is that House, only five were opposed to concession. Sir J. MACINTOSH, in moving that the Petitios should be read, remarked that the Honourable Baronet had been guilty of something like inconsistency in re sorting, as the champion of the Church of England, to the alleged opinions of Dr. Macrie, the moderator. He had no objection biuiself to Dr. Islacrie, though there were reasons a by the Hon. Baror.et should have refused to avail himself of the aid of such an auxiliary; for the Doctor was the avowed head of those seceders whose secessinn was founded on their adherence to the solemn league and covenant. Now that solemn league and e°. tenant had for its object, strange to say, the upsetting and uprooting of Prelacy and Popery. It was singular. therefore, that the Honourable Baronet s ho u ld, io h u desire to quote eminent names on his side of the co. tion, have overlooked the dangerous principles of that class of Dissenters over whom the Doctor presided. It could not but be surprising to many to find the Hon. Baronet recruiting in such singular quarters--(Hear). Sir R. H. INGLIS. in explanation, said, that as far as the placard alluded to had threatened the good peo ple 01 Edinburgh with a Popish Government, Popish Professors, or heads of Colleges, as these things would be possible in the event of the Relief 8.11 passing into law, there was no reason to charge the framers of that placard, of whom be knew nothing, with exaggerations —The petition was then read, and ordered to be primed. QUALIFICATION OW PRZSNOLDIIIII(IIINLAND) SILL Mr. DAWSON moved the Order a tie Day ter 'the farther consideration et the Report ea the Freeholders QuoMeade' Sill. Oa the gamins that she Speaker leave the (:hair, Mr. MOORE (Dublin) said. that in rising to propose his first instruction to the Committee, he whited to state the grounds on which he was prepared to support the BTU. There were two clans of 'persons who came far• ward to support the measure now before the House; of these two clues the one considered the disfranchises's. of the elective franchise in Ireland ua pi ice for the reA. lag of Emancipation, and the other considered it as a sr cority to the Proteitants for the same measure ; he was anxious, when be gave his support to the Bill, that he should have an opportunity of explaining distinctly what the grounds were upon which that support was gig". As a Kew ity for the measure of Emancipation, he dr*, claimed it altogether. He supported the Bill spoil the general principle of raising the elective franchise, aid of guarding and protecting it from the fraud to which it had been subjected. He thought that it ought to he carried into effect upon its own merits, and upon its owe distinct grounds, and without reference to any odor measure. As a distinct and separate measure it web! be wise and useful ; for while it promoted the pawl' 0,1 to th It 411 is ta ST Ai be ce of hi di se It w • F