Star. — London, England, 1820-11-16 00:00:00

~~ li t 4 1 1 .1 • 4 'l4 ' I .). i ' i ~ t i . 4. i 11 * ~ - - 3 _'--.x . e t om . . - had been enkindled, aik4ould expose that Melt- • ing to the • imputation of being, as they bad de scribed the Peers, not over:giftetl: with wisdom. He doubted ' the. expediency of publishing any Resolu tions as the acts of that Meeting, particularly 'whenl; be considered the. manner in which they had Isrbern bled, under the doubt of any Meeting taking place, wfticb probably bad prevented many persons from attending. He remembered that Loid a very few months ago, had said in thellouie of Commons,- that %%believer . it should appear thkt the' people met in their respective polishes, and ea pressed their opinions on any subject, that then he should believe in the exprestiOn of public opi nion. He, therefore, recommended those persons who were now present, to promote such Meetings in their respective parishes. He would recommend tl:at this Meeting should not adopt any Resolutions as to any specific line of conduct, further than a recommendation of Meetings of the description which he had mentioned ; for he thought it was not any regard to the principles of justice; but the fear which had been excited by the expression of public opinion, that had led to the result in which they all exulted--( Loud cheering).—lt was his opinion that at a Meeting like the present no measure should be proposed but such as no sound-hearted man could object to—(Hear, hear).-He thought the , ' shorter, the Resoliaious of any Public Meeting were, the better—(Henn, hear) —a few truths were. all that was required, and the shorter and stronger the mode of expressing them, the greater and more lasting was the impression they would produce: for a short Resolution was read and understood by ten persons, where a long one met with but one who at all inte rested himself about it. A Resolution had been pro posed to Address the King, praying him to restore her Majesty's name to the Liturgy—he doubtea the propriety of adopting such a Resolution until it was ascertained whether Ministers would do so of their own accord. Major CARTwaIGHT objected equally to the Reso lution which had been proposed, and to the course which was now recommended to the Meeting, of doing nothing themselves, but only recommending a line of conduct to others. He thought thatthe best way would be for that Meeting to set an example by adopting some Address, which other Meetings might follow if they thought proper. In answer to one Address which he had had the honour to present, bier Majesty had said, - that she felt her interests to be completely united with those of the people. He be lieved endeavours were making to induce her to alter that opinion, and therefore he thought, that on every opportunity which presented itself, that point should always be placed before her Majesty's view. Obser ♦.uions of various - kinds had been addressed to the Meeting. It had been proposed to them to call for a change of Ministers: he thought that was naremedy for the evils of which they complained. The Bill of Pains and Penalties had been called unconstitutional. He would say it was a violation of the Constitution, which the . king, Lords, and Commons, united, had no authority to enact. The Honourable Chairman had expressed a wish for a declaration by Parliament of the principles of the Constitution—something in the nature of a new MagnaCharta. But.who could wish for such a Ilnand Cliarta:as a corrupt House of Commons could give He wished to impress on the minds of the Meeting the necessity of frequently bringing such topics under the attention of her Ma jesty, in such a way as would give the persons who presented their Addresses an opportunity of reading them to herself. The venerable Major concluded by proposing, as an addition to the Address, a clause cautioning her Majesty against the machinations of evil counsellors, who sought to separate her 'from the People. Mr. Doc KYER, of Aldwate, then addressed the Meet ing. He thought the Meeting ought to do. some act of their own. The Resolution and. atildre , l which had been read were strong, but Could not in aoy way commit the character of those who adopted them.— fie wished them to be carried as the unanimous Re solution of this Meeting of the Chairmen of the dif ferent Public Meetings which had addressed the Queen, and that each person now present should dp all in his power to effect their adoption in his respec tive Parish. . [Mr. Alderman WOOD entered the room while Mr. Dockycr was speaking, when the whole assembly rose, and greeted him with loud and repeated•cheers, amidst which he was conducted to the table at the top of the room]. Mr. GALE JONES wished to call the attention of the Meeting to the necessity of adopting' some -line of conduct. He came to that Meeting as to a repre sentative body—an assemblage of individuals, each the organ of some other Meeting, to express, in- some degree, the sense of such Meeting on the great ques tion before them Sir GERARD NOEL here said, of course it was not expected of any person now attending _to sanction anything contrary to what had been dolie in his own parish. Mr. RICHTER, of Islington,• then said, - he wished to make one observation. What had fallen from the Honourable Chairman, and from the Gentleman who was speaking, might induce those who beard them to suppose that this was a Meeting.of a kind which had been declared to be illegal. He therefore begged that all would observe that this was not a deleoted or representative Meeting, but an assemblage of in dividuals to consider of certain Resolutions, which they might, if they• thought proper, endeavour to Prevail on their fellow-parishioners, at other Meet ings, to adopt. Mr. JON LS said, that he thought what had just been stated, presented a still stronger objection to the Ad dress and Resclution which had been proposed ; and as there were several objectionable points in them, he thought the Meeting should not hastily adopt them. Sir ROBERT WILSON •wished to explain, that in signing the Requisition for this Meeting, he had not done it with a view of calling them together as dele gates or representatives. The terms of the invitation skewed that. They were not desired to consult their respective Comalittees, bet as persons who might be sypposed ta possess some influence, to come and give their opinions as to what might be likely to bethe course which• their respective Patishes might adopt. For his own patt, he objected to the adoption on the Instant. of the Address wiatcb had been read—it was awl Wi t z, a voluminous paper, t, on eaaminatioil t be . found to contain many objectionable passages. Mr. BARglift BEAUMON T expressed his WAlingnehg to withdraw the 'Resoiution. • 'Mr. THZLWALJ. thought the Meeting t ought acit, A* separate withotit adopting some specific Resoln. lion. Ile would recommead,an Address to the gig( to dismiss the Ministers, but coupling it with a prayer that he would take none into his service who would not pledge themselves to promote an efficient reforeis. of the representation of the people in Piutiaraent. He would alio recommend an Address to .the Queen,. and a Petition, calling on the House of Commons to give at least one sign of their pretensions to the char racter of Representatives of the People, by preferring as iiipetichment against the authors of the Bill off' Proscrsption, miscalled .a Bill of Pains and Penalties. Mr. RYLAND wished to recal the attention of the Meeting to the object of their assembling, which was, as Chairmen of Meetings which had been held, to give their opinions as to the expediency of addressing the Queen on the failure of the proceedings against her. 1-fe thought it would be better not to leave to be done by straggling parties, what might, through the present Meeting, be effected by one grand, simul taneous, and powerful movement. He then moved, " That it Is the opinion of the present Meeting, that Paro chial Meetings should be immediately convened, to congratu late her Majesty en' the defeat of the conspiracy in support of .she Bill of Pain and Penalties against her." : • • Mr. Hums thought that this Meeting ought n& to take upon it elf to prescribe any specific 'course of proceeding to future Parochial Meetings; but merely es express its opinion of the good effects of such Meetings. He therefore moved a Resolution expres sive of the satisfaction of the Meeting at the result of the general expression of public opinion on the re cent. proceedings, and recommending to the People to watch narrowly the conduct of Ministers, and be ready at a mome It again to express their sentiments on any further measures which those Alinicters might wish to adopt. A. discussion ensued on the several Resolutions now before the Meeting ! in which Mr. Roam, Sir INSERT `WILSON, Mr. THELWALL, Mr. WooLta, Mr. RYLAND, and Mr. RICHTER, took part, which ended in the adoption of a suggestion by the last named Gentleman, to embody the substance of the whole in the two following Resolutions, which were unanimously agreed to: '.' That this Meeting bas seen with great satisfaction the happy result of the public !pinion, so generally and elletually exa preSsed, on the infarnous proceedings against her Maiesty, againit the rights of the People, and against the Laws and CAmstitutiow of the Country. . " That it is the opinion alibis Meeting, that it is highly ex pedient that the several Parishes, Trades, and other Public 80. dies of the Metrnpolis, and the Country at large, should haunt.' diately meet to deliberate upon and adopt such measures as they may consider to be further necenary to secure the rights of the Queen, and to recover the Constitutional Liberties of the Country.' Major CARTWRIGHT fully concurred in the Rem lutiims just passed; but wished to propose, in addi 'tion, a long Resolution, which he then read, expres sive of the opinion of that Meeting, that a thorough and efficient Parliamentary Reform was the only ef ficient cure of the grieVances under which both the' Queen and the People now laboured. Mr. Hama, although a friend of Reform, opposed `the Motiini, as no Mention had been ma de a• the question in the notice convening this Meeting. Mr. EDMONDS, of Birmingham, loudly contended for the adoption of Major Cartwright's Resolution. Mr.. TIIELWALL, under the circumstances of the present Meeting, entreated Major Cartwright to with draw the Resolution. Major CARrwarcurr said, his Motion embraced nothing which was not perfectly consistent with the Resolutions :which- had been adopted, and he there fore could not consent to withdraw it. ; Mr. BARBER Bruno:4°NT said, that in order to se cure the beneficial results which were expected from Public Meetings, it was necessary to keep close to the avowed object for which they were convened: otherwise no man would undertake to call them to- gether, nor would any person be found willing to preside at them. Mr. WOOLER wished some better. arguments bad been urged in opposition to the motion than the fears, the apprehensions, and the policies of those who opposed it. He contended that the existing corrupt system had wrought the evils against which the public voice had been raised, and Reform being the only cure of those evils, they ought, therefore, to be constantly kept in view by those who met to ex press their opinions on any of those evils of which they complained. Sir ROBERT WILSON said, be had already ex pressed his opinions in favour of Reform ; he was always ready to. support it. But he must ever be unwilling to enlist people in one canse,- and when he had so enlisted them, to call upon them to fight for another—(Shouts of applause).—lt was, there .fore, necessary that they should consider whether any person then present would not have been unwil.. hag to attend, if he knew this question were to be proposed, and, whether any one then present thought the adoption of this Resolution might °perste un- favourably on other Meetings which were then contemplation. Mr. GALE JONES supported the motion of Major Cartwright. Mr. THELWALL did not wish to prejudice the cause of Reform by a direct negative to this Resolution, and Oterefore moved the previous question. Mr. EDMONDS again attempted to address the Meeting, but was prevented by loud and continued cries of 0' Question ! question !" Some discussion then ensued as to the mode of Petting the question, when Mr. Alderman WOOD said, that he had often known, amongst the learned men in the City, in stances,:of a great waste of time in wrangling about the form of putting the question. The best way of settling it he thought would be, to call upon those tor the previous question to hold up their hands. This was accordingly done by the Chairman, when the previous question was carried with only about It dozen dissentient voices. The Thanks of the Meeting were then Toted to Mr. Alderman WOOD and Sir GRERARD Non, who, in a few words returned thanks, and the - Meeting adjourned at half-past four o'clock. Yesterday, No. 1433 (Class 13.), drawn a Prize of Twenty Thousand Pounds, Money and Consols, was Sold by HAZARD and Co. at their Offices, Royal Ex change Eau I 26, Cornhill ; and 324, Oxfard•street., ~ THE EVENING SAAR. • LONDON. • •THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 1820; THE FUNDS. MOE OF STOCKS THUS DAT AT ONE O'CLOCK : 8 per Cent. Reduced 66% % % $ per Cent. Cons- 69% 'A Y 4 • - 311 per Cent. 77 3 / 8 -4 per Cent. 86% % ' 5 per Cent; Wavy 10534 Long Annuities 17% 15-16 India Stock 225% 224 223% Exchequer Bills ss. 4s. pre. Ornnium 3 / 4 3 / 4 dis, Cons. for Acct. 6934 1 4. The 3 per Cent. Consols, this morning, remain steady, at 69%. The Cabinet Council on Tuesday sat till five o'clock in deliberation. Yesterday,. at two o'clock, another Cabinet Council was held at the Foreign Office, which sat till about three o'clock, when an adjourn ment took place till four ; at that time the Cabinet 'Ministers assembled again, and continued in deli beration for above half an hour. This Meeting was attended by the same Members as the dahinet on Tuesday. The leading object of their deliberations relates to their late discomfiture, and the steps which, in con sequence, it would now be most prudent to pursue ; but the particulars of their cogitations are kept as much as possible to themselves. Our Readers will recollect the proposition which fell from Lord Er.- Lewaortoonn during the Trial—that the House, without passing the Bill of Pains and Penalties, should concur in a general Declaration, censuring the con duct of the Quxaa, &c. &c. The propriety of en tertaining such a suggestion has, it is understood, been talked of in the Cabinet; but, so far from coming to anything like a concurrence on its pro- 1 pridy, the Earl of HARRoWBY (who voted against the Divorce Clause, and against the Third Reading of the Bill), and also the Earl of LIVERPOOL, de dared themselves against the prOposition. If pressed in the Council, it is understood that both of these will retire from the Cabinet. Indeed, it is asserted, with much confidence, that both of these Noble Lords have expressed a strong desire to retire at all events. Such are the rumours in the Parliamentary circles. Another topic. under discussion was, it is believed, whether the Meeting of the House of Commons, on • - Sic 23d instant, might not be prevented by a pro rogation? Both Mr. SPJLAIOER and Mr. COWPER have been consulted on the question. and have•de *red that no precedent' an be found, in recent times, for proroguing Parliament during an adjourn /tent of the two Houses. It is, therefore, the general belief, that Parliament will meet on the 23d, and that the Commons will be prevented from entering upon , any discussions relating to the late scandalous and wicked proceedings, by an immediate message to at the King's Commissioners at the Bar of the Lords. We noticed yesterday some of the trait? of wisdom which characterised the, proceedings against .the Queen ; but how would the Public feel, were we to dwell on the morals and justice of the assailants of her MAJESTY ?—The peculiar view Of morality which ran through Lord ELLENBOROUGIA speech oil the second reading of the Bill of Pains and Penalties, l has given rise to no little curiosity with respect to his' threatened Declaration. One passage of the speech in question, which :rime particularly engaged the public attention, runs as follows Other Princesses have had their frailties and their favourites: they have been attached to a MORTIMER, an Essex, and a LEtcssrea. But how great was the difference be tween men distinguished for rank, for education, for accomplishment, for public services, compared to the base nbject of the QUEEN'S passion? ' Lust, when through certain strainers well rein's!, ' It gentle Love, and charms all womankind!' Where were the strainers here? What was the object of her affection ? What was he ?" &c. We may here see, that his Lordship has not forztiedi his code of Royal Morality without deep study and research; he is evidently deep' read in 'aro / 4m s &aridalesues, and seems to have bestowed particular attention on those of the Own of ELIZA BEM With l the view of understanding- the principles which are to serve as the foundation of his Declaration, we have endeavou,red to inform ourselves respecting the gal lantries of the illustrious Princess, to which his Lord-, ship alluded. In the progress of the inquiry, how-' ever, we stumbled on muck which, having less firm ness of nerve than the Arrosmv-Getan.t, and; somewhat different notions with respect to the means by Which female delicacy. may be best promoted, we feel carselves not justified in repeating. We allude more particularly to the information respecting the loves of ELIZABRTII, contained in the famous French Letter to her frqm MARY QUEEN of Score, as the conamunicatioß of the Countess of SHREWSSORT• Some parts of this letter, however, will bear tran scription, and we translate the following passirge as a specimen She "(the Countess) said you would never renounce the liberty of having your pleasure always with new lovers, regretting, she said, that you could not be contented with Master HATTON, and another of this kingdom ; but that, for the hqnour of the country, she was' most concerned that you had not only engaged your hpour with a refiner named Swint, rang to gad him - by night ;u the chamber of a lady, whom the said Counte 4 blamed very much on that occasion, when you kissei and used with him diverse unbecoming privachs • . . . that you conducted yourself' with the sam e dissoluteness ..towards the Duke, his master, w } catne„to you one night, to the door of yoarchambe ; where you met , him with only your chemise and night-gown on," &c. We May understand from these instances, that hi; Lordship looks with an eye of peculiar-indulgence, i: not complacency, on Royal gallantry, and would n:n wish in limit the number, but merely the rank of tie objects of that gallantry. The rapidity with which one lover here takes the place of another, proves the love to have been of the most exalted description , and AS remote as possible from that of the vulgar, any approximation td which his Lordship must hold in sovereign contempt. I It is true some of the historians of the period (not noble) view the peculiarity which his Lordship ad mires somewhat differently. One of them (Dr. GIL• BERT Srzwas2), instead of dwelling like his Lordship with a fond complacency on this system of compre hensive attachment, inveighs against the " corrupt manners of ELISABETH," her " contempt of chasti.y, and the unprincipled licentiousness of her private life." He even goes so far as to say, " When palsied with age, she was yet burning with unquenchable desires ; and, vain of her haggard and cadaverous film, 'sought to allure to her many lovers." But these ale obviously Plebeian notions. Lord ELLetisottouGu could have acquainted him with the strainers which give such a different character to the amiable frail ties of high life. " Nothing but incapacity could induce any men to place their country in its presenthorrible condition-- to pull down the pillars of the 'Throne—to invite in vestigation into the privileges of the Peers—to pro duce universal inquiry into the mode and practices of Government—to draw the curtain aside from the miserable expedients of Downing-street—to expo , e the partizans of Administration, clothed in all their servility, by such an act as the trial of the QUEKN, is 'madness, rank madness ; its progress has produced injury incalculable ; and its consequences have tended more to root out respect for the laws, than all the writings of all the Jacobins that e►er existed. Among other strange things, a Protestant Priest promulgates the abominable and heathenish doctrine, that the KingibfEniland are immaculate; converting our Soee reigns into political Popes. Formerly it was said, that ..caluses Vicar only knows SO sin In all this snortal state.' Wt mnst now add, excepting always the possessors of the English Throne ! This doctrine is right mar vellous! Uur excellent maxim; that " the KING can do no wrong," is, within its limits, both just and ne cessary. Were the Sovereign amenable for every political error, no one would accept the trust. Who would beer the burthen and endure the -toils of Royalty, "if he were answerable for the acts Of-his Ministers, or accountable for his common measures of Government? Bat even this maxim does not shelter the KING from special and particular respon sibility for violations of the Constitution. Were the Sovereign wrapped in total irreponsibility, the title of the Illustrious House of Brunswick would be de fective, and the glorious Revolutionists of 1688, rebels and traitors. According to the notions of this pious Divine, crooked. backed RICHARD was not a villain, nor CHARLRS the SECOND an Windom; dc haechee. : 10 " A KW% incapable of vice, must also be incapa ble of acts of virtue; such. a description. billy agrees. with FIELDING'S Log Bing, which des free from all tyranny;pride, passion, avarice, and ambition—never in the wrong, - aad always in the right I There are cir cumstances in these disgraceful measures that require explanation. If the projectors of this notable scheme believedfor years that the Qintex was breast high in iniquity—if they believed that she was eating the cates of wantonness, and was as openly bestial as the cynic Diogenes, was there not among them one user. ciful enough to pity her condition, and to whisper Da her that shame and disgrace would follow such a course ? or were they, like the thief-takers of the Me. tropolis, watching her motionr and raarkiri a is sinuosities, with the delicious expectation, that in time she would be rotten-ripe? " When the effluvia from this mass r . l inf a my, as they depict the poor oppressed Quin n , hid su lli e d. in tfe.;:tr opinion, the oationallNen ur an d t h e nat i oaa l i• :dignity, did these advoc.v: es of morality, these stur d y champions of virtue, these stern, inflexible patriots, at once try to burnish that dignity and honour into brightens, and wipe away . the-stain P—Not Th e y Mired the pretended sinner an immense reward, aid gave her full scope to drain the cup of guilt to the very dregs,gshe would not cross the meter; sins e and sin on, in ct, said they, on the other side.— We care not for iniquity—we are heedless of crime, as long as our shores do not receive theoinners 'The national honour, the national dignity,' now the loud theme of the lorawling sophists, were of no import in their eyes, in compaz 'son with the heinous offence of visiting England! —This was the damning stain that 'Mercy could not forgive, nor Pity efface! This was the black deed that called forth such deep revenge! This was the h e lli s h act t h at st i rre d up Power i nto 1 passion —let loose the wolves at Law, and baited fallen Majesty, like a beast at the stake! Now, thanks be to HS4IVE.N, the measure, its machinery, and ma. chinators, are fallen--they lie-grovelling in the dust. The voice of the People has triumphed—public opi nion has broken down the feuce of unjust Power.--. This is the last effort of despotism ; its feet of clay no longer support its iron hands ; the gigantic mass made the earth tremble in its fall ; but the un bounded exultations of the People shook the wide concave. obe joyful,', ye patriots, Mho love the Constitution of your cc untry I Be joyful, ye merci ful ones, who pity the oppressed ! Rejoice and be glad, yc fiiends of humanity ! A piloi, eefeaceless i deserted woman has, turned aside the spar of the arrow; and, under the safeguard of the shield of the IP.riepret.o le, l h e e l r et ba th nn e reicowpale rejoin wade triumphantly tl ift y e in a d. the win 1 ,~ I " { M ' S