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- MEETING OF THE PARISH OF ST.GEORGE, HA NOIE.R-SQUARE. more Addresses presented to her from the 'people of 1 1 England. What was that but saying.that he would vote to find the Qteeen guilty if her caul should be ever brought before him He He hoped that the poor& throulshout the country would call, on all occasions, on their Representatives to attend Public Meetings, it was a duty they owed to their Constituents to at tend to support them 0 in the right, or if wrong to point out their error—(Cheers). Mr. Moore read a series of Resolutions which were An Address to her Majesty, founded on those Re solaions, was read by Mr. Tuonsnsw., and adopted. A Vote of Thanks to the Chairman was agreed to. Mr. HONHOUSE returned thanks, and the' leeting was dissolved. The Churchwarden; of this Parish having refused to call a Meeting for the purpose of considering an Address to tier Majesty the Questa, a very numerous assemblage of its Inhabitants took place yesterday, in one of the yards of Little Brook-street. A sort of outbuilding was engaged for its reception, hub the overflowing crowd filled all the enclosed way beyond it. At one o'clock Mr. Hoanooss entered the romo, and was called to the Chair. Mr. RonnousE thee rose, and . obserred that he had attended conformably to a requisition addressed to him, and signed by several most respectable inha bitant householders of that parish. It always gave him pleasure to obey the call of his constituents on. any question of public importance, or that involved in any way the rights and privileges which were common to them all. He regretted that some of their fellow-parishioners, some of the higher orders as they were called, or of the privileged classes as they called themselves, should have withheld their assistance from this Meeting—should have discoun tenanced and endeavoured to prevent it. Their efforts, however, were vain; and those who were now pre sent were resolved to shew that they fully partici pated in that feeling which animated the country from one extremity to the other. The business con cerning which they were now assembled to deliberate had lately taken a new shape ; it was not now so —.. a Trial of so importa nt a nature, andinvolving much the trial of the Queen that was g oin g _on as, If the trial of her prosecutors. This was not indeed a - so many possible contingencies, could be supposed first, second, or third prosecution which her Majesty capable of furnishing, in its progress, food for met had undergone ; it was but the continuation of a riment, the events of yesterday would excite in it system which began twenty-five years age, and had no common degree. It is impossible, in any been carried on with unrelenting cruelty from the period when her Majesty first landed on these shores. case, to conceive anything more ludicrous than the The Commission at Milan was, however, the greatest grave surprise an accuser exhibits, when all the effort of that cruelty, and if he was at all acquainted groands of his charge, established, as he supposes, with the laws of his country, the appointment of it with the greatest dexterity, and fenced round with was an illegal act, and, if so, an impeachable offence. In times which some migh t consider worse, and others all the solemn jargon .of vener ated p recedent and better than the present , in dividuals had suffered ea- legal technology, come to be exposed to conte m p t, pitally for the crime of issuing illegal Commissions. merely by a developement of the means employed , But no such Commission as that appointed to sit at to fabticate the lying tale. But how lamentable to Milan ever was instituted before in the history of thin k of men who have c haracter to lose, being re the world. If truth , and not the collection of charges, had been its object, how w as it that her Majesty's doted to the necessity of emp lo y in g le g al shifts, to revert Counsel had discovered that to be false in four weeks p any fact whatever, respecting a conspiracy— which the Commission bad been accumulating for and that conspiracy against a quarto!—from being years ? Spied and watched as she had been ; be- probed to the bottom? We NM QM offer any re trayed, or rather calumniated, by menials whom she marks of our own on the proceedings of yesterday, had discarded from her service ; how was it that, when the depositions of th ese p eo p le were laid before but shall here lay before o ur Readers some observer the Commissioners, they did not think proper to call tions which appeared in a Morning Paper of this day, Dr. Holland, a domestic physician, or M. Sicard, who .and which are well worthy of attention: must have had the means of statin g whether these Gs smell progress was nude yester d a y h i „ am b l i ng „id eate depositions bore any resemblance to truth? But they respecting the conspiracy. Nearly the whole of the day was were pre-determined to find her guilty of irregular consumed in discussions arising out of technical objections. It courses, and they thought the evidence of discarded was stated by Meows, that he went with Zarreca from Voila to servants amply sufficient for that purpose. They M me ; that he accompanied him to Colonel Beown'e house, were sent out only with an e m p t y bag, and their and that what Zattein came down stairs he had his band fall business was to contrive to fill it—(Loud applause). (' large band') band') of Napoleons; but when a question WU put It signified net whether it was filled with what was whether any offer was made by ZANGLA to him, an objection decent and true, or with what was false and filthy, was immediately taken, and it was determined that before provided it was of a respectable size—(Applaare). evidence as to his suborning witnesses could be received, it Perhaps, however, if the bed-makers and grooms, was necessary to connect &near more closely with the ionspi and washers of foul linen, belonging to a certain racy. Mr. BRODGRAM was ready to prove that &ma t o bail Great House, were to be called on for their deport;- been employed in suborning witnesses, but though no ass can tions, they too could fill a bag, and he apprehended grippers that Zama felt such a warm friendship for the Milan a larger one than that sent home from Milan, The c mmass' lonrs as eto be himself at the expense of suborning wit - Queen was, he believed , th e onl y p erson in that quay- ° messes for them, and though there can be no doubt either as to ter who could come out pure from such an invest;- the source from which be was supplied with the menus of su gation. He trusted that this question should be n abomrnation or as to the object for which th e mone y was given to sooner disposed of than the cond uct of his Majesty's .. ~,' . l --as Jur. o soconsn was unable to connect him in that near Ministers would become the subject of inquiry. In . his opinion their conduct included both crime and wilY w i th the Milan Commission which was deemed necessary, misdemeanour ; they had hazarded the affections of he was ob li g ed e° rail another !rime" . the people and the safety of the Throne, from no “ Here again the same objection 'MS stated. Dome= Sat,- other motive than the desire of preserving their woes, a Professor of Italian and Latin, was proceeding to lay places. He hoped it would not be long before he open the conduct of the famo us . SACCUL This individual, it is heard the people from all parts, and with loud proved, was employed to bring Ds Wort frOm LausanDe to cries, demand their removal from that powei which Milan. To facilitate his agency, be bad even a credit at a they had abused. instead of faithfully perform. Banker's at Lausanee. He was employed also at various other ing that task, for the performance of which they Places- But !di this, it was unnteildnds was not agency. were so amply paid, in maintaining the character of 44 Why should the case of a prosecutor be affected by the in the country, they had disgraced it by insulting a per- tudercuce of persons not duly authorised by him ? Za"" and son who, whether as a woman, a stranger, or their SACCIII are well known to have been employed in collecting Queen, was entitled to respect. Ile should like to witnesses; in an ill4ndged seal for the welfare of the State of ask the Noble Lords and the very Honourable Gen- Britain, the prosecutor in this case, they might attempt to tlemen who were concerned in t his monstrous p ro. suborn witnesses; and though from the offers made by them to secution, how they would feel if a sister, or any re- some witnesses, it may be Referred, though it cannot be proved, lative of theirs, had been so cruelly assailed as her that the same offers were made to other witnesses, and thank- Majesty had been? Would they not express horror fully accepted, yet it would be very hard that this unauthorised and detestation at such conduct ?—The Honourable interference should defeat the great object in which the State has Gentleman, after a variety of further. remarks, and been engaged for the last half year, namely, the attempt to &- after citing a passage from Dr. Clarke's Travels in grade and destroy the Quiets Of ENGLAND! Russia, as an authority for an allusion he had re. ~ The State knows best how the witnesses were procured. cently made to a pal titular custom at Moscow, con- The State knows whether ZANGLA ng , wi SAC tnesses ; CIII, Ra the Sserutr,tate and Ex cluded by declaring his perfect read iness to carry to calm, were employed in procuri knows her Majesty's Thi one the expression of what should the sums which were paid to these Gentlemen; and the man appear to be the sentiments of that Assembly.—The ner in which these sums were employed State has ain- Honourable Gentleman was much applauded during the able key to all, or most of the secrets in this business In the do M r . qf his speech. correspondence between Colonel Buono and Mr. Pow= ; Mr. Puma 'lttoite stood forward to move the but if the State were to disclose what it knows, the Qesest Revolutions ; he was received with great applause. might then know too muck. Who ever hoard of such genero- He congratulated the Meeting on the full attend- sity on the part of a prosecutor ! The object of every once, and and hoped the people would alwa y s meet when tutor is to destroy his adversary by all the mesas. iunpoli his powe as r. the country was assailed , wh en the o pp ressor was to o it is true there are people who might be so te to 'be branded, and the innocent protected. The ques- think, that if Lord laysaroot and his Colleagnei, representing tion now was, not whether the Queen was guilty— the State, and conducting this Prosecution in its name, are, that question was put to rest—her innocence was as they must be, in possession of the Secret History of the manifest to the world—liut the question was, what p rocee dings against her Mastene ; if they know that vast was the extent of the guilt of Ministers? It was not sums have been expended in suborning the witnesees—that easy to fathom the depth of their crimes, but still 7 s...ANCILA, SACCNI, and Co. have been employed as agents in' the country would. do its d u ty. The conspiracy this business of subornation, and yet suffer her MAMMY'S against her Majesty was of the most base and nefa- cause to be injured, because she may not be in possession of an nous kind, and the Ministers were at the bottom of the ii n h s i n t h e c h a i n connec ting t h e se i n dividuals w ith th e Th r i. it ; who else could have been ? none but their crea- ebb Cabinet; there are people, we my, who might, in such a Cures; the Ministers, and they only, were answerable case, be su unpulite as to pronounce those Representatives o f f thus the for it. Tne country were bound to fathom the busi- se at , more bas, and dishono ura bl e t h an an y o f th e i n gess to the bottom, and so they would. Legal con- men of whose services they availed themselves." ning might exhaust its arts in vain. After what had - already tr ans p ired, no man could have the effrontery SIXTEENTH DAY OF THE D EFENCE. to say, that the Bill could ever pass into a law— HOUSE OF LORDS. (Applause). The Honourable Gentleman, after pay- The House resumed proceediep this morning at the usual hour. lug a warm tribute to the independent Press of the The Marquis of LA. NSDO WN, before Counsel were called country, which he said had achieved the safety of. in, moved that ilat Order of the House, of the 21st August, her Majesty, which was the common shield of all, 1820, respecting ties attendance of witnesses, should be read. without which the libeities and rights of the people The Order was read by the Clerk. would perish, concluded by observing on the speech 1 The Marquis of LANaDOWN said, that be had desired of Mr. Courtenay in the House of Commons on that the Order should be reed; not merely with a view to the Tuesday last. That Gentleman stated, that the tide convenience of their Lordships, but for the more important t h e Was turning against her Majesty ; that; ; would bell* of public justice. The d,elay which Owl ottestd!d . the proseed), THE EVENING STAR. LONDON. FRIDAY, OCTOBER 20, 1 Q2O. PRICE C KS THIS DAY AT ONE O ' CLO CK : r Bank Stott iii—Eper Cent. Reduced 661 lex div. 5 per Cott O . 671 11-9por Cent. 75e 1/ K. div. 4 per Cent. 141 SS 641 ex. div.-5 per cent. N av y 1051 104 Long Annuities 171 7-16 ex. dlr.—ladle Stock 1201 India Bood 24s.—Somb Sea Stock Y4l Excliegoor s us4s. ss.—Onotbans for Payment 21 die. Cs... for Acct. 671 1 1. THE QUEEN. W. logs . Of yesterday,had wholly arisen from a non.eompliatte with "stone ought to give. He thinfote erelthi tippet ES liestios, thi Order just read, for the attendance of the witnesses from day ' and wished to take the sensed the Howe ern it. * dee. in order =maid thenecessity of takingthe opt of the I The WAD CHANCELLOR said, the questions of fact i o dgee, the Nettle Der! sitselts (Liverpool) had loggested, asoirrate to be tried by **we, end au by a xefetestie to the the ragged= was supported in= several puts If the Hesse, I Judges. His Lordoidp then put the speedos, that Belvedere that the Counsel let the goo* should be asked whether 'they I be called so the Re, Ind derlsesdoe reopeeden Saceld be put Wesid net at soft call Sacchioad thus lay a foundation fo r the *Wm.—The House alma, when there were; proposed evidence of the ether Witness ? His Lordship dig ant Contalls - - s 1! I`a er = r at the time exactly understand what answer had been made by • . iSe the Leaned Cooed, but be now found, as esqtdry, that with a ilsjorkty agsinst the Motion —sem: view to the accommodation of the House, they bad consented Upon reesteleg the law, we found Mr. 801N1011.4 a that lisochl should be called, if be was called immediately. *mug their-Lasalships. The which was, he said, appikablit Sacchi, however, was not forthcoming, and be. (the Noble Mate to as action between A end 1, in the Ceuta below, =old not ' Os) understood was not within reach. It was unnecessary to be applicable t• a IBM ef Rains and Penaldes. Their Lord , point oat to their Lordships that there was all the difference in ships haling delight Mow to object, in the most decisive man . - the world between *Lambing a witness thus called upon, imma net, to the crew togitithe-hed lately pursed, for the purpose diately, and esamining him after some delay had intervened. of roving *tentage* eta corilzaal, he had only to propose The reasons of the difference were obvious, and h: d already the other line of deferate width kW been thought proper by been more than once fully recognised by their Lordships .— her Majesty's Counsel to be sleeted. In consequence of the non-compliance with their Lordships' The Marquis of LANSDOWN lhaving stated that be had a order, die ends of public justice had been defeated. Sushi Models to submit to their landshipo, ' was not only not in attendance, but, he understood, was not in The LORD C.HANCELLOItordered Counsel to withdraw. Landon—(tHe is io L e arn," fron t she if in iegeriei hee l ehj, The Marqtds et LANSDOWN then said, that he rose, in He wo r ld all events, not at hand when wanted, as he ought to pursuance of a notice which be had given code House, to=wers have been, and as their Lordships had, by their order, intended for the prediction el a terY 11 .1"rt aat Put of the e scsea r ad ' he should be. It was on these grounds, and because he felt, in ence between Colonel limes and Mr. Powell, the Agent for common. with every one of their Lordships, the inconvenience the resere tiee M ai " She Slams' lie &said ° he said, as briel i and injustice of protracting this important proceeding unneces - se possible state the gnus& Or his Motion, in which their Lord sadly, that he bad felt it to be his duty to bring the infringe. ships would Ind it iseceseery, consistently with justice and the meat of the Order of the House, under its consideration. dignity of their own cluntleter so ltallsiesee• It was, he sa id * Lord LIVERPOOL said, that it was certainly of great ins- certainly in the recollecnon Id their LerdshiPs, that an under poreume that the witnesses should be at baud to be produced ,standine bad been entered into Kam al/ olden, that none of the whenever called upon, and he had no objection,when the Counsel witnesses, who had heat ellemined, should be Permitted to leave and Agents were.called in, that the order should be read to them; this country, so keg as it was thought necessary that, for the and a stricter attention to it enjoined. Before he made the pro. purposes of justice, they should remain begs. In videden of the position yesterday as to the calling of Sacchi, he had been is- rule laid down b y their Lordships to this ants the agent for formed that he was probably at his lodgings, an d that at all th e prosecution had thought proper to authorise the departu re of Rastelli, sad a passport was procured for him for tha t per evepts he was actually in town. Lord LANSDOWN explained: pose at the Foreign Dice, without the order of GOINITIVatfIt.... The LORD CHANCELLOR said that be reall y under- Here the Noble Lord read that put of the evidence of Mr. stood that her Majesty's Counsel had declined calling ceorbil-- Powell which related to the mission of Rawl% and ob. (Ns, hodroasaasual their Lorikhips). He did not mean'to say served, that if that evidence were founded in truth, there that the fact was so; be only stated what, on his hooouri was could be no possible objection whatever to the production of his impression. The first intimation which he had had of the the correspoodence which related to it. Mr. Powell bad stated fact being otherwise, was from seeing in one of those Journals, that Rastelli bad been sent ant of the country witty for the which are in the practice of taking notice of their Lordships' , p ur p ose of setting the families of the witnesses at ease, were an d proceedings (see Star of yesterday), that Mr. Brougham and Mr. of bring i ng over some p apers to this country which thought to be necessary to the case a g ainst her Majesty.— called out " Now, now 1 " They might h a ve said so, but et- Now their Lordships having thought it their duty to examine eddy be did not hear them; and be was sure there were many that agent as to the motive which induced him to permit the et their 'Arabi,' in his part of the House who were in the sane depu lure of Rastelli ; and having ascertained, upon the oath situation. of that agent, what those motives were, be would ask their Laid ERDESDALE thought the non-attendance of Sacchi lordships whether those motives could best be coUected from was a contempt of the House. the verbal instructions given to R=etold, or from de costa Lord LAUDERDALE certainly understood that her Ma- spondence between Colonel Brown and Mr. Powell? As no key's:Ceased had desired to examine Sacchl on the instant, "rhea hntmetie ns had been given, * ot h er c aw " mast he • bet that an exploration had taken place between them and th is *dallied for the purpose of arriving at tbe coofirmetion of the Counsel for the BBL truth of Mr. Powell's statement. Their Loaships were en- The subject, as to the attepdance of the witnesses was here titled to the Production of that enerearndenees Particularly dropped; and as it had pleased them to raise op me imailframy party at the Lord Chief Justice Amer proceeded to read the opinions. of Bar, of which M r. Powell was the ,lent- Thar were b" l4 w h he had dated to via the Judges en the two questions subMitted to them yesterday. to ascertain front their agent, y It was in the negative on both questions. late their own order. This was necessary, for the purpose of The LORD CHA NCELLOR wished to know , i f the Come sustaining the charact er of their Inedialifst who would act for her Majesty had any objection to calling Sacciti now, as doubdess trot hesitate , Jf an one of theataalkaa Ina a Ws' the opinion of the Judges had be= delivered. mentor as dist Bs:, and bed his case peepsioid by the Inn- Mr. Esomisue--Yesterday, my Lord, I stated that I had no duct of his Meat in man weal as learetalte leltSeals to call object* ee the salting of Satehi, if it could have been dune inn ulion that agent to give a satisfactory Maenad" of Ms "elver. mediately ; the time that has elapsed since renders the We some- If the evident* of Mr. Powell warn WWI tee odd that evidence what different. were true , what possible injury amid arise Min the prodigal= • .1 Lord SIDMOUTH said, that as soca as 'it was known yea of the em:esPe lndeis _r ..? The Male Lelesi escseblisd and with .Maa" terday that Sethi was likely to be called before their Lord- log, ° That Mr- rowel he called to the Bets ermaree to ddps, amnesia was sent to his lodgings, and he was on his Wedont that pan of the correePoodelece bowels him and Colo way down to the House, when he was met by several Noble nel Brown , which related to the minion of Basta* , and his Lords, who told him that the House had adjourned. dela" Lord LIVERPOOL. The LORD CHANCELLOR again asked i f her Ma j est y 's admitted the this woe a dilhent ease Counsel had any objection to the calling of Sethi now. from the ease of any Individual prosecutor, or any individual se r . p eouottow did not now obo=e to ea u & ec he If h e defendant; a case, in which no tribellai could, on any Find* could have been brought forward yesterday, he should have' ustice call for the production et the coefidential cam% been very glad ft have examined him. of the Agents. He would submit to the Noble Mr. Gins= read the minute. of Salvadore's evidence of yea Marquis (Laostlown) , that the Home having appointed both terday, up to the time that It was interrupted. Counsel and Agents for the. 818, the House Must be era! The WED CHANCELLOR said, he agreed with the opi. sidered in a united character; and that* in strict right, the ob. noon of thp Judges, delivered this morning. judos which would apply is as ordinary cue, does not apply Rat GREY thought the questions submitted to the Judges here. Still he w ished the Ho ate to insider h ew t he. case yesterday did not embrace the whole subjec t. The question of stood- Th e Haase hod taken urn itself to Want age= the agency of Sc o tt bad been altogether omitted. He, the to conduct the cause on the part of the Bin., but in doing so Noble Earl, thought that it was sufficient ground for admitting " they malts of parse, be understood to have conferred 00 the proved between Saccld and the evidence that a connexion was agents all the reeeellable ' that, " which ace usually supposed the Milan Commission. He therefore moved, " Test the wit- to helots to the character—to has endowed them with all the nese, Dontinico Salvadore,he called in, and the question as to confidence which was necessary to the free adage of their th en, agency and acts of flaccid be put to him." duty. Front the moment the act of appointment kid pused, The Earl of LIVERPOOL did not think there had been every act of these agents muss be looked upon In a con' cient of . fidential act, and we which bad been done in the ions fide cer suffiLod proof of the agency the =ge=es,Sac templation, that k would not be made public, and if this do e. Lord ERSK I N E thought of Sacchl had been very clearly proved : but suppose Such' was not an agent, and no trine was true, it must apply squatty to the parts as to the w ay connected with the Milan Commission--suppose it was not whole a a aaratailandaliall. In O at at p rinci p le ' therefere ' possible to Identify him with that Commission, yet their bird. he thought there wee the most decided objection to the whole skips, sitting on a Bill of Pains and Penalties, should see bow or any part of the corremoadesee being produced. What ma far the subornation of witnesses had been carried. The Counsel tier, then, was there !tor breaking ill apace this PriaciPki sty would be well justified in asking their Lord_ Literally speaking, there was no mystery in the case. A wit ships to recfor her Majesty iv the evidense against &ilea, notwithstanding nen bad been sent opt of the country w ho ought not to have e the decision of the Judges, which no one respected more been sent out; there wee no difference of opinion as to the ini tial himself. Bet why this perpetual recurrence to the Propr i e t y of the act, though there mig h t be some difference of kilt? No law could have brought the queen to this trial— views among their. Lordships as to the motives of it. No The Learned and Noble Lord on the Woolsack had stated in Miami" was wanted, for an were agreed that the act the outset of these proceedings , that the offence with which her was most imisroPer. why now areal in , for the first i ortset, time it Majesty was charged was not Treason, and that there was no ever bad been done, cm a Palen* so sacred and ins P lew whatever to meet ,the case; and yet when her Majesty as that of protecting from &dome, the confidential commu nises. to her deflate, their Lordships say, she shall be pirat ic " of Agents, written under the belief that they b o und by the rules of lon an d t h at i n proceedings which would net be called upon to make them public? Should it, a w id e i d t he law. The c ounse l f or t h e g m , oug h t to nevertheless, be the opinion of the House that the letters ought b ee elw to give legal evidence to prove any case of subarea- to be Produced, he =tat* agreed odds the Noble Marquis in des el perjury in this cause, whether the parties so suborning the propriety of having th em referred to a Secret Committee. were uustected with the Milan Co * or not; It was Lord KING said that, if be =deemed the state of the pro 'sough to know that persons bad been suborned in this cause. "'ding rightly, a consPiracl bad been charged, and Boate l If their Lordships had a suspicion only of persons being tn. had been proved to be an active, be would not say one of them= horned to give false testimony, they ought to suffer the fullest active agents in suboesing evidence. After that, Rasta hid beeo inquiry into it. On these grounds he supported the motion o f removed in a moat improper manner by an agent for the Bill — Ids Noble Friend, that the question be put. in such a manner, that if it had ocaerred in any Court of Justice, Lord DA R N LEY read an extract from the Minutes of the Attorney would never have been suffered to practice again. I Evidence, to prove the agency of Sacebi. - and the caste which bad been so much damaged would have been Lord MANNERS was of opinion that the question could et one thrown out of Court—(Hatr,heer). Reasons had ben not be put to the winter. Their Lordships aught to ad h ere to whined tis excuse for sending this man away, and it was to we. ence in the defence as in tbe case for the tale whether these reasons were the true ones that the correspon the same rules of t hink of Sacchi clearly proved, dance was now called for. The Noble Earl had said, there was n° inn. He did not t the agency submitted whether the opinion of the Judge. ought not to oyster', in the business. He (Lord Klng,) thought the who le and be taken on that point ? proceeding from beginning to cod, bore a character of mystelP The Marquis of LANSDOWN add, that while h e h a d a sat The Noble Earl (Liverpool) had en a former day avowed hint. in that House, be never would cepien to refer to the Judges self, to be the responsible author of the procedlap, but to any ret o ol , of fact; f o r their Lew* were to d ec id e upon day h e seemed rather to shrink from that avowal and t 3 this. If agency was riled, their Loniiiir would depart from wish to make the House the Prinellels , while his al their usual prattle if - they referred due rim to the Judges; t one and all, sheltered themselves in an uniform silence, and would be ! meg wipOsillitiemkkgidedoes which they did not offer even a word in defence of thei r leader.-- f ~a 40 1 foe .1n en Ea IL see ph tbi tit •el • d;