Star. — London, England, 1813-11-27 00:00:00

- _ Mr. sksass was hArd In reply, In the cause, the Aduocete- General against Mackenzie,. Cause postponed fig want of fount material documents. The LORD CHANCELLOR stated, that the next dote he beard complaints of brief, not being delivered in .1 —"le, he would order the carne io stand at the end of the paper; and he asked, why the Advocate vise not thane to support *het was conceived to bathe right` of the Crown/ • In the pause Dempster and tubers, agalnet the Magistrates and Inhabitants of st. Andrew's, in behalf of themselves'and all those ieho choae to play at the gams Of Mit on St. Andrevrae Balsa, sir S. R9.MILLT anti Mr. jlitaircumt were heard for the uppelbalts, and Mr. ADAid and-Mr. HORNIR for the respondents. The obj-cr of the original action was to prevent St. Andrew's links ' from being converted into a rabbit-warren • the apprehension of ii, hich had (as Mr. Brou g ham stated it) thrown the whole civi lized wcitid into the utmost alarm : and subscriptions had even been entered into at Calcutta to maintain the action. Golf was described to-be a nationkd Scotch gams; upon which the Loan ClIANCf.l.l.Ott exprissed his satisfaction that there was no ground in England, South of • Northumberland, where the soil was so bad and the grass .o thin, that it could be played. It we; stated at the bar, that the game was often played on Blackheath, — The complaio being, that rabbits injured the Pelf course by acrapiag and scratching it, his Lordship asked, whether it was not the pa:are of Scotch rabbits to watch better than the English rabbits ?—Further proceedings in the cause postponed till Monday. . The ruya) assent was given, by commission, to the IVlaltDuty, Loan, and Local Token Bilis. Comtassioners, Lords Eldon, Harrewby, and Walsingham. . I The Lean Interesißill, and Indemnity 818, were committed . s.ndavported. The &LAI Sugar Drawback Bill, Scotch Grain Distillation Bill, 1 Hesston Election Bill, Foceign' Subsidy Bill, and Seats in Par liament Bill, were brought up from the Commons, and read a I first iir t re. Mr. Serjeant COPLEY and Mr. HEAT)! 'appeared for.lelr.Wright, against the Clergy Penalties Bill ; the latter not heard. Mr.SerjeantCopley, after shortly adverting to the acts for compelling the residence of i the Clergy on their livings, and the great importance of having that object enforced, stated; first, that Mr. . Wright had a vested interest in the result-of the ac- I tions upon the same *rotirids that otheis held their property. He was injured by the present bill, Ist, inasmuch as reports had gone abroad that he himself . had led the defendants into the commission of the of fences ;—which imputation was in some measure countenanced by the preamble of,the.Bill, which sta ted the proceedings to'be vexatious. Mr. Wright had made inqniries into the circumstances of each case, and, where there appeared not a legal, but even a moral excuse, had desisted from the action. He had expended very considerable sums of money in corn. mencing these actions. He might sustain the loss of the fruits of the action, - by the death of parties, and also the costs i and he himself might die during the siiiptnision, and the whole of ousts and every thing else might be lost to-his, representatives. Lord I.LBNIIi)UGH sail; these ought to - be some eVisiene that the actions had been brought persons mightotherwise claiin to be heard at the bar merely on their own allegation that they had an in terest. I-lad the COnnsel The Writs to slew, or at least a I:sr to give in . Mr. Serjeant Cort.ey stated, that they had not the' writs, but that they. were ready to prove .by the At. torney that the actions were brought. , Tice LORD CHANCELLOR asked, what was the number of acti , ins'in all ? He said, they had no thing to do with those that 'were brought ' by Mr. Wright's procurement, but only with those brought Idy Maisel , . These last were, as to this purpose, alone his actions. Mr. Serjeant CoPLEY said 'there were about 200 brought •by Mr. Wright, and :about 100 more by others. _ . - Mr. Serjearit Conar said that-he could not state thst the semainder,of the tcti',os were brought by Wr.Wright's procurement. He knew nnthiog :shout thing ; but- about:9oo.wcre brought in Mr. Vffishess own name. " The 'Lomp cH4,Ncgr,Loa said, that was all the' tious W:inted to . kuow. • Counsel were the 4 tirdered to withdraw, iind the Bill was committed - end reported 'without further cib servAtion.—Adiourned till Monday: • . I-19UsE op COMMONS. The House Was summoned to the'l.cirds, where the Royal as pent was given by commission; to theLoaa Bill, the Malt Duty Rill, and the Local Token bill. - The bill rc.ipecting the office of Accmintatita9rneral was sent *own from . ;Ire Lords, and read a first tittie. The Suo Eire Office bill was read a tectind dine,' aid referred to a bele! committee. •- A Peation from ti,e insolvent Debtors in the prison of .Glo t tester Jens received; and ordered to lie on the tabte. • •• 1 The Heiston Election bill was read a third time and pasted, .1 The Londo Militia Volunteering . bill went through the Caw.' mince aod.the report was received. It was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. • - • • Madder Bill was read a second time, anti ordered to be cc nuanced to-morrow. Lou) PALMERSTON brought up the A;my Estimates for 1 the year 11314, which were ordered to be printed. He then gave notice, that he would bring them under the con. sideratiots of the House on Wednesday next. 'The Mu:iny 13 a and the Police Bill were severally ordered to be committed on Monday. The Watch and Ward, and the frame-breaking Continnaiscs Bills, were 'severally read a first, and ordered to be read a 24 1 !imp on Il i tlonday. The io# millions of Exchequer-bills bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to.moriow. 1 he Militia.interchange bill was reported, and ordered to b i p read a third anie 0-morrow. Sir RbWARD K isIArCHBULL brought up the Report of the Committee on the Polkestone luripflte Road bill, which was read a first time, and ordered to be printed. MARINE MUTINY BILL. On the question forjhe second* reading of the Ma .. fins Mutiny .Bi • ,BENNZI I - exprp - sed some surprise at this ill b ong harried through at inch- an early period ff the tintsicin. GEORGE WAR - RENDER said, that it was pecjiisnrf Oar the.miarines, when serving on shore, shquloil bn subject to regulations similar to those of • the land . forces. the objectipst in point of time would 'nave been better when his Noble friend (Lord Cas tlereagh) m- , ved the Annual' Mutiny Bill. Mr. MANNERS SUTTON observed, that when the House had 'come to the resolution of the number Of men to be voted for the service.a the year, it ap geared almost a matter of COUVIIe, that the Mutiny Lill. should be brought in for their regulation. Mr. WHITBREAD admitted tlie necessity of presenting the army estimates at 4n eirlier period this 'ear than what was usual; but he could see no neees pity for passing a • Mutiny p i l l now, when there was one esisting, which would 'continue in force tti the ptli March. The Mutiny Bill Was one Which Pas. ptept alsynyi loolted to with the greatest *igOnce lid It Waa froth re itsat o . o*tatace that items Toted • . , _P4gns4,4IWENT4Rr PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, NOVEMBER N. and, in runt, expiration of the existin Pt. ble Lord U f ord Castlereagh' particular ciwumstanesi would be much-more to' to have the Mutiny Bill twelve, he would no c that the adjournment not to leave sufficient pat_ after the recess. If the . Load other reasons, conceive it would be particularly ex pedient for the pnblic service that the bill shouisl be (now passed, .he had no objections. _ , Lord CASTLEREAGH admitted that the bill was brought forward much earlier in the Session than was usual - , and - that this circumstance .was a fair sub-' ject of Parliamentary observation. In the present circumstances, however, and considqing the state of public business, he would say, that it vras in the con templation of the- Ministers of the Crown to adjourn to a period so near the beginning of March, as to make it inconvenient to have the Mutiny Bill then to pass before the 25th. It certainly had been usual for Parliament to keep this great measure of control over ' thearm m y in their own hands, and to postpone the bill until a Very short time before the expiration of the last act. There had been cases whiere this had been run so close, that there were doubts in Ireland, and the more distant parts of the United Kingdom, whether the Mutiny Act were in existence or not. Mr. WHITBREAD . was satisfied with the rea -1 sons of the Noble Lord; but if it was to be an adjourn ment, and not a' prorogation, he thought the mown 'tion of the Ministers of the Crown had better not have been so expressly stated. Lord CAST.LEREAGH said, that as the Crown had certainly the power of proroguing Parliament far what time it judged expedient ; he believed it was by no means tmusird for it to signify its wish as to the period of an adjournment. Ihera was no reason to apprehend that the House would refuse to accede to that wish, OF drive the Crown to the necessity of a prorogation. • The bill *milieu lead a second time, and coo ' mitted for Monthly neat. On the report of the Local Militia Extension Bai being brought up, Mr. WROTTESLEY thought it would be neces; sary to give a power to the Lords Lieutenant to as bsemble them for the purpose of proposing this exten sion of their services. - Lord CASTLEREAGH said that was unneces sary,. as they might be assembled at any. time for the training required by law, and it coold then be ascer tained whether they were willing to extend their ser vices.—The bill was then ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. • eAST•IICDIA. SUGAR DUTIES. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQU ER rose for the purpose of proposing an addition duty of Cs. 6d. per hundred weight on East-India Sugar imported into this country, so as to make a difference. of 10s. a hundred weight, as a protecting duty in fa vour of the West India intereitto. Oa the other hand, a much greater facility would be given to them to se-export their sugar - from this country. This ad. Vantage, as well as the decrease of freight, by the throwing open the trade, would probably balance the duty now laid on. He, however, wished to propose that whenever the market price of sugar appeared in the Gasette above6os. per hundred weight, the duty should be taken off as it exceeded 'hat price, so that if sugar should exceed 70s. the whole 10s. laid on East India 'sugar shOuld be taken off. This would be making it act strictly as a protecting duty, with out injuring the supply. lie concluded by moving his Resolution. Alderman- ATKINS made no objection to the proposed duty, but he-thought a much more general• question would be involved in it. By the throwing' open the trade, he thought that sugar would be brought from the East-Indies to a, great extent in lii dia built shipping, to the detriment of the British shipping interest. Mr. BENSON *thought that those observations would better apply to the further measues which i . would be brought before 'the consideration of hullo.' mein on this subject. • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER . observed, that sugar would not, on account of the ex. pense of freight, be brought from India so-much in the way of cargo as of ballast. • Mr. FAWCETT went krito a variety of calcula tions, to prove that East-Indift produce should be en .couraged in all its branches ; and that when East- India goods had been introduced into the marker, 'they had uniformly obtained a superiority orcr West India produce of the same description. Mr. MA RRYAT said that the West India plan ters were entitled to a decided preference, when they 1 : were obliged ' to bring all their produce to this court- I try, and import every thing they wanted, in British ships. The people of India, on the other hand, were at liberty to buy at the cheapest market, and to sell at the dearest. The West-India proprietors had been considerable losers for the last twenty years, and there were few estates there which in that time had not• been either sold or given up to creditors. It appeared that a labourer in India could be supported for six shillings a month ; whereas, from the high price of flour lately, it would take nearly as much a-day for the support of a negro in the West Indies. It had been proved, that sugar in the West Indies could not' be manufactured for less than thirty shillings a hun dred weight, whereas in Bengal it could be sold for twelve. As to the supposed inferiority of East In dia sugar, be had seen, a few days ago, a sample of East-India sugar, equal to the best West-Indian.— While the Indian trade was a monopoly in the bands of the Compapy, the West-India planters had no jea lousy respecting the quantity that they imported ; but now that the trade was throwu open to an inde finite extent, they entertained serious apprehensions that there would be an attempt to substitute East- India for West-India sugar. The West Indies em ployed 25,000 seamen, and took manufactures to the amount of seven or eight millions in return for their produce. There was no prospect of our havipg sir mtlar advantages from substituting East-India sugar.. Mr, Marryat concluded by ettserving that the Waits India planters had laboured tinder the greatest dig: advaotages for many years past; that the only lima suiT'i.yhich hid been fa.voutaUe to them 0-Ifilie-Pre sent arrangement , and be hoped it woul d no; be t broke ial upOn• Mr. C. IDLE could not allow that the restriction* notwith stand. _ the measure as it nos! sands ; for he thought it would be the means of raising the price of sugar oo the home consnmeit; and asnugar was an article of necessity already bear ing a wry high price, any further rise of price must be very severely felt by our manufacturers, and all the lower classes of the people. Mr. W. SMITH said, that where there were two parties ofidifferettt interests, it was very natural for each of them to -view their particular individual inte rest with an eye et partiality and tenderness, and to become' apprehensive that it might be injured by corn petition. For his own part, he was no friend to any , sudden or violent revulsions in trade ; but tbbugh any system whatever might have long continnei iW she same way, he could not conceive any reason why such system, might not be revised. The interests of the public were certainly well deserving the conside ration of the fioue ; and as the security of those in terests was the object of pre• ent resolution, while at the same time its arrangements looked to the inte rest of both parties, he hoped the Bill would be suf fered to pass without any further opposition. Mr. MaRRYAT said a few words in explanation, after which the Resolution was agreed to. The re . - port to be brought up to-morrow.—Adjourned. • )" ' GERMAN PAPERS. • • • VIENNA, OCTOBER 29. . • According to a reporf from General Radivojevich t dated the 2s l / 4 1 inst. the negociations opened between General Nugent and the French Commandant of the Castle of Trieste, have been broken off, and in con• sequence the bombardment recommenced on the 22d. Our troops have carried by assault , a redoubt in ad- Vance of the Castle, which may be expected to tall in' a few days. The English Captain Rowley perform, ed signal service on this occasion, and directed one of the batteries. In consequence of an arrangement between Gene ral Nugent and the English Rear-Admiral Fremantle, an expedition with two ships of war was sent to the environs of Zara, to act in concert with General To. massich. _ A later report from FfeirLidarshal lieutenant Re., d vojevich, announcei, that 'the -enemy bad retired across the Isonzo, towards Palinanuova and Udine l pursued by our troops, who would, soon operate on the Tagliamento. • Accounts from General Hiller, of the..22d October:- anpounce, that he had advanced along the Adep t , .his right wing as far as Dro, and his - left as far at Borgo Valsugana. The castle of Trent" was blockaded by General Fenner. LEIPSIC, OCTOBER 30; On the 25th, the body of Prince Poniatowskie found in the Elver, very near our city. ft was b next day with all the honours dee to his rank. The Emperor of Russia has confided to Generakt Thielniann the command and organization of the Saxon Amy. All the Saxon officers, subalterns End privates, not forming part of the corps already united to the combined army, have, received orders tO4-iro.' teed immediately to Leipsic. • ItrADIUDVdtrITES. The Sufi/dement to the Madrid Gazette, of Novem ber 1, contains the following OFFICIAL ARTICLE. Ida de L-on, October 20. When- the Regency of the Kingdum•was informed of the reports circulated relttive to disorders commit. ted in the town of St. Sebastian by the English ands Portuguese troops, after the assault given on the 81st of Aught last, they made an earnest representation to the Duke of Ciudad Rodrigo, through the Minister at war, requesting that he would inform himself of every particular. This mode of proceeding by the Regency does credit to-their frankness, and the con idence which they have in the illustrious Chief who has gained victories so glorious and so signal ; for his known pru d ence, his love for strict discipline, and his - affection for the Spanish people, will not permit us tb doubt that he has not taken the most effectual "means to punish the authors of the mischiefs and atro. cities which are alledged to have been committed. TbelYulre of Ciudad Rodrigo, considering hems& in this affair not so much a General of his Catholic Majesty, as• a sui)ject of Great Britain, since they were the troops of that country which entered St. Se-i Bastian, replied to the Minister at War, requesting that he might communicate relative to those events, with the Ambassador of his Britannic Majesty, to whom he accordingly transmitted an answer in the most satisfactory terms to the complaints against the conduct of the British ani Portuguese troops, having received the periodical.papers wluch contained - the charges against the army. He yys, then, that he could wish to be able to adopt °dm means to vin dicate the office rs implicated ; but as he has them not, he must make use of thosi in his power. He be gins t% ith the charge, in which it is imputed to Lieu tenant General Sir Thomas Graham, that he inten ded to burn the town. The charge is reduced to! this, that the town of St. Sebastian was ill treated on account of its anterior and exclusive commerce with the French nation, to the disadvantage of Great Bri tain ; a charge which cannot be made against the soldiers, who cannot be supposed to have had any idea, or at least, to have reflected much on what hap pened before the atta c k of the place ; and, therefore., that infamous impUta t i on must fall exclusively on the, principal officers, who, from motives not of compel.. cial policy, but of commercial vengeance, are sup- posed to have so far forgotten their duty as to have foven orders tor, or pe rm i tte d t h e sacking of that un rtunate town ; thus risking the loss of - all they bad acquired by their fatigues and gallantry. It is not necessary, therefore, to say that this charge is- evi dently false. He proceeds, with jest indignation, to vindicate the General and Officers of the army, against the accu aauon which attributes to them the design of plun dering and‘urbing the. city. • Every thing possible," says he, N was. ctone to preserve st, though many. oily but a auk lige berms die • • *de is the West radio Were se it they! ies *et. if, WWII, the it il F - wreeented by the Wile Vier teres;h) would styp,4o 'A s , •.• , • . toesport Inv, coffee, sad o ne to WS of the Kart t 4 : . 1 7- . diOutth 41•CaPe itibisferre, sid the pihW re- kor tonveniest for the . t . ; - .. . were only nominal. • 41 foi s ip,, ein mont h s 6 .‘ S i t ._, r. Alderman ATKINP said, that notwithstaml.' object wit. It had beet. , .4 leg all 'be hid heard, he tausi still repeat, that the would probably be so 10b . objeetiqui be had before mentioned still struck hien t time to pass the Mutiny All tb be of considerable importance. Tie viewed the he Noble h old did for that, 7 'Or Bill with jealousy, and was averse to the measure as •,.. • • • the hint Ord Atgame t rbombard ft; is the most ca. 1 min mean of fors mg the envy to abandon it. I oonstaitly fated, for the sane reasons T did-at Ciu dad Rodrigo aid Birdajosi and if I had entertained the inferno** &l ire of destroying Ss. Sebastian from ' mercantile yengetnee,pr any other similar motive, I certainly could not have taken a more effectual me thod than to have peemitted it to be bombarded. It is not certain that the city was set fire to by either the-English or—Portuguese -troops ; but to have dOr.e so was a part of the defence of the enemy. They set' it on fire on the 224 of July, before the first attack for the assault; and it is certain that the fire was .<.a violeit On the 24th, that it was necessareto suspenti -the. maple intended for that day, and that it afier• wards faded. I was et - the s i ege o f S t . S e b a t t ih n on the seCtth of 'August. and r assert, that the city was then aitire, and it was certain that it had been set on`fire by the enemy ; for,. I repeat, that our 1)2.! Wino by express orders, Lad throwonl htin,;)s ii,l4 the place, which saw burning on the morning !..,1 Ist, before the assault. It was likewise knowl. that the enmity had"prepared for a serioes resistance, not only on the ramparts, brit in the streets ,),- the city, filling them in varlonspaces with combustibles ready to be set fire to and explode. It is also known, that the fighting.in the streets between the besiegers :trd the enemy was terrible 1 and that the combustible collected in them being set fire tn . , killed a great nun). lser on both sides when they exploded, and set many ' buildings•in flames.".. He adds, 4t that the fir e w e . , .theireatest misfortune that could happen- to the *? milants, and that they did every thing in their pasver to-extinguish it; and that from the difficulty and „danger of the communication through the fire with the advanced posts in the city, it was found necessary to call them all in." With respect to die sacking of the city by the soldiers, he says, 4. I am the first to confess it, because I know that it i. true ; and I most add, that it has fatien to my lot to take many cities by assault, and I never saw nor heard of any taken in that manner by any troops whatever.. without being sacked ; it is one of the pernicicas 'consequences which attends the necessity of en asseelt=a necessity which every officer laments, not only from the mis chiefs which it occasions to - the unfortunate inhabi tants, but from.ffie relaxations of discipline, inn the risk *Vat is run of losing all the advantages of vie• tory in the very morneotle which it is gained!' tfe then proceeds to complain, that it irberd that be aad his officers should be treated in . thetianner they have been by the author of this groondlesalibel, only be t cause an unavoidable evil had happened jr; the dis charge of a great service, and the acquiskitm of e great advantage; since, notwit he is con vinced that it was impossible to hinder thesacking of a city in such circumstances, he can proie that the ut most care was taken to prevent it, had it been possible, The most positive orders were given to that effect, and had it not been for the fire, which certainly increased the confusion, and theaundfer of officers Who fell. or were wounded in the assault on the breach, ;Inanit ies to 170 out of 250, 4 would have been io a gra) measure, though not entirely, prevented. One of the grounds of the complaint, which is, that sentinel' were placed in all the-houses, :hews the wish of the. officers so maintain arder r -for these sentinels most; have been placed the by Order of the. officers ,• and • unlessit is supposed 'that• the officers intended that the city should be sacked and burnt, and placed the sentinels there for that purpose, the propriety of plat, ing them. sem* nacesserily be admitted. Unfortu nately, it happened that the troops which made the assault oath* city could not be relieved till the fd, instead of its being done immediately after they had obtained possession of the place. It is talinobservect, that the authors of the complaints forget .that on the 31st of August, when the. assault was made, the whole left of the army teas attacked ;kud they would have received no thanks for having successfully per formed their duty on this occasicin, if they had risked the blockade of Pamplona, and the lock of the tattle of the 31st, as would have been requisite, had troops been kept in readiness to relieve those. that assaulted St. Sebastian's in order that its inhabitants might have suffered less from their disorders / " With respect to the injuries done to the inhabi tants, by the soldiers with their 46 firms and bayo nets, in .return for their plaudits and view:, it asp pears v extraordinary that it should not occur CQ these com lainants, that these injuries, if they were real, liappe rather from accident, during the con test in the streets, than deliberately." As to the charge of [thy to the enemy's garrison, he adelite, that it is we I founded; but observes ' " that notwith standing the' French decree, that all the troops of an - enemy found in a town taken by assault should be put to the sword,'it would be difficult to prevent British officers and sakdiers from treaties with lenity an, • enemy who had)nuvendered." ' The Duke of Ciudaill(iidrigo adds, that 44 he could have wished that a person so respectable, and of so high a character as Sir Thomas qraham, should not . . . have been charged with not having applied for assis • tance to extinguish the flames till the city-was en, tirely consumed, giving occasion to infer, that he de.. tared its destruction. Every thing was certainly done . by the British troops to extinguish the tire ; and the ke *Ciudad Rodrigo himself applied for every isssistance,, not only to extinguish the flames, but to . the dead around the city, and on the ramps*. .._which had not been done before, because the necessity' 'of it had not been so well known." " I, says he, " certainly lament the evils suffered by the inhabitants of this unfortunate city, who with reason complain of their fate, and deserve to be assisted by the Government." He concludes by saying, that many of the offending soldiers have bets ;punished, but he cannot say at present how many. In a postscript, he adds. that he had forgotten to say, that in the relation to the French Crovernme 3 t of the assault of St. Sebastian. General Rey states, ~ that when the assault began. the city was on Ere in, 1 six different places ; 441 therefore believe, that as it ie known that many houses took fire by the different ex losiorys, and during that contest in the city, it will , be admitted, That it was not set oa the by the British soldiers." The Regency of the Kingdom hasten to publish this explanation of the Duke of Ciudad Rodrigo, to remove the unfavourable impressions which may have been made by the false or exaggerated relations pub. fished by the indiscreet Seal, the ignorance, or the malignity of some periodical writers, who unjustly endeavour to degrade the noble and generous conduct of the distinguished Chiefs of the Allied Army.