Star. — London, England, 1813-03-24 00:00:00

Hon. Member's segment Wetted to hIM to be, th it the paper which he had read, was the real depee-,1 si.,on of Mrs. Lisle ; and that - what had been given. in as the deposition was bet the abstract of It. Mr. W'HIT'BREAD rejoined, that he had not produced the copy to contradict it, but to explain the testimony of the witness. Sir A. PIGOTT was sorry to protract a discus sion which he conceived to be unpleasant to the Haws, and cf injurious consequence to the public. 1-Ie could not, however. avoid saying, that his Ho nourable Friend appeared to hint to have committed an irregularity in the production of this paper, which' was sometimes called evidence, and sometimes an authentic document; and he regretted much that his Honourable Friend should have allowed himself to fall into so great an. irregularity. The. House had Certainly been placed by it tinder a great disaddan tage, as they were net In possession of any authentic document with which diet could compare thispaper. Before his Honourable Friend had made such an use of the paper, it appeared to him, that, he should have at least taken every means in his power to ascertain its authenticity. Ile should at least have made the inquity, which he since had done, and laid it before Mrs. Lisle. However honourable the witness might be, yet it could not be supposed possible that she, at a subsequent time, could have written down accurately, all the questions which had been put to her. No per son could place such a reliance on his memory, as to be certain, that an account se drawn up, would be an accurate report of what had taken place. Mr. ELLIOT felt great reluctance in prolonging the present debate. He could not, however, avoid saying, that the impression made on his mind, and, he believed, oft the minds of a very great proportion of the House, from the statement of the Hon. Gen tleman, was, that the evidence had been really taken down, question and answer, except in the cafe of the deposition of Mrs. Lisle. The Hon. Perfileman had stated the deposition, signed by Mrs. Lisle, to be only an abistract of her evidence, It appeared to.him, that in producing this paper, be had introduced a prin ciple which would go to attack all the recorded testi mony of the country. If the, alter-recollections of a 'witness were allowed to be set up against the au thentic depositiop, taken in a manner so formal and solemn, be did not see how any recorded testimony could be supposed to possess any validity. He was acquainted with Mrs. Lisle, and knew that she was entitled to the high estimation with which her name had been spoken of in the House; at the same time, be was pretty sure that M.s. Lisle could not place so much reliance on )her memory v as to be perfectly cer tain that site recollected exactly every question that was put. to her in the course of a long examination. This was a stretch of memory beyond what any pro fessional Gentleman could pretend to. Mr. WHITBREAD said, that this paper had not been set up generally against the deposition, but as to that particular question respecting the words married woman, which he thought was very material : in that he ,thought that it was no great stretch of memory. to suppc.se the witness hid a distinct recollection.— • When Lc considered the deposition as an abstract of the evidence, he only meant that the answers had been given abstracted from the questions. If the paper had been a contradiction to the deposition, he certainly would not think it ought to have been set up against it. He had never meant to impute to the Commissioners, that they had taken down as evidence that which the witness had not said. Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY said, that his Hon. Friend (Mr. Whitbread) bad been quite incorrect in his supposition, that any part of the evidence had been burnt or destroyed. There had Seen only one examination taken down of the evidence of any wit. ness, and no minute or copy was kept of it. In many of those depositions, there had been considerable al terations at the request of the witnesses. He could not, however, absolutely take upon him to say, that in some cases, where there were many of such altera tions, there might not have been a copy made. Mr. I'ONSONDY thought that there could not be a stronger illustration of the frailty of memory, than that his-Hon. Friend ( Mr. Whitbread) could not now remember, with any accuracy, what was his statement the other night. The impre.ision nhich his. statement. had conveyed to his mind was, certainly, that the Com. missioners had set down something contrary to what the witness now alleged to have been her evidence. T;:at this had been the impression on his mind he had then stated to the House, and had thought it necessary to scud a note to his Right Hon. and Learned Friend (Sir S. Romilly) to request an explanation relative tat this statement. If a witness were afterwards to give an account of a transaction different from his deposition regularly takcin, the effect of this would he to destroy the credit of such witness. He thought he had some cause or complaint against his Hon. Friend (Mr.Whit tread), who having sat near him tor some time before he made his statement, never intimated to him, that it Was his intention to bring forward such a charge against the four Noble Commissioners : with three of ivhom, at least, he had lived in the greatest liabits of .intimacy, and whose honour was as dear to him as his own. He could not help saying, that the impres sion made on his mind, by the statement, was, that. , the Commissioners were charged with having sub mitted to his Majesty, as the deposition of Mrs. Lisle, something which was substantially different from what that witness meant to say. A graver and more serious charge could not have been made on meh, who were upon their oaths, discharging a painful duty, in which the character of one of the most persons in the isa :ion was co:.cer!td. If they had acted in such a manner, he thought they would be *serving of impeachment, and the must serious _punishment. FRANCIS BURDETT thought that what 'had been done by the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Whit -bre:id) was much to his credit. Far from regretting the course which the dischssions had taken on this enbject, he confessed he looked upon.it as the most s'ortunate thing tor the country wbich could have oc curred—fortunate that it had been so conducted— Jertunate that it had been brought forward at all. • He could not conceive 'that any thing better could have happened, and he knew not how any party could feel otherwise than satisfied at ascertaining the innocence of the Princess established, as it had been by the Honourable Gentleman, a hose conduct had been so severely censured. The Right Honourable Gentleman who spoke last had opened his speech by saying, 4 , a stronger illustration of the little depen deuce that ought to be placed on the memory of frail LONDON. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 24, 1813. PRICE OF S rocKs THIS DAY AT ONE O'CI.00K: Cong. 591 i—for ac. 591-5 per Cent. 88H—Rond.4s.51. pr. Exch. Bills ss. 6s. dle.—Omnium. northing done. It will be seen from the proceedings in the House of Commons last night, that Mrs. Lanz confirms the autlxnticity of the paper which Mr.WILITIMEAD read as the questions put to her when examined, relative to the conduct of the Paiscass of WALES, and The answers she gave to them. So far Mr.WHLTBILEAD is borne out in his statement ; but he was incorrect, and has acknowledged it, in supposing that a differ ent course, from what was usual in taking down evi dence, had been pursued on that occasion. As to the weight to be given to the regular evidence compared with statements made from recollection afterwards, there can be but oee opinion—the opinion generally expressed by the House ; but it is impossible for any dispassionate person, from all that is now known of the evidence, and the manner in which it was taken, to avoid this conclusion—that had the witnesses been also examined, at the time of giving, their evidence, by Counsel for the PRINCESS, the probability is, that its complexion, in some points, would have been dif ferent from that now upon record : and though it be ' true that after-recollection* are not to lag suffered to . . . neigh down fecordect evidence, it seems plain that. Mrs. LISLE'S evidence, sb fat as it has been consider ed as militating against the Putnam, falls to the ground ; for that very evidince would have been canvassed and re-examined, had judicial proceedings been instituted against her Royal Highness ; aud it is evicipt, from Mrs. List.a's own statement, that the evidence which that Lidy would give in a Court of justice, would not be such as to Carry the infer ences which may be drawn from the record of the Commissioners. What we now state, no way affects the honour of the Commissioners. We are bound to believe, and we sincerely believe, that their account , of Mrs. LISLE'S evidence is correct ;-;-but witnesses are often ignorant of the tendency of a particular expression, and when enlightened by a cross.examina. tion, are often indignant at their own stupidity in not perceiving the incorrectness of their own statement. The Commissioners feel highly indignant, that by inference, insinuation, or otherwise, their honour, their high character should be under the slishtest suspicion. It weuld, indeed, be wonderful should they feel otherwise, and they would in that case have deserved expulsion from all honourable society. We applaud their feelings. We think every person whose character or probity is questioned, must feet indignant and seek to wipe off the stigma. If we applaud them for this tenacity of character, can we.. withhold our approbation from a much higher character—a cha racter of much greater importance in a public and national point if view than all of them put together— for having sought vindication from the foulest slan der and calumnies—from charges affecting her life and her honour? Has that Lady, ender all the ag. gravations of her case, used warmer language in her own vindication, than the Contnissicmers themselves ' have done in theirs ? A Corunna Mail arrived 'in town this morning. By the following extracts from the Spanish Rapers, the fact of the gradual evacuation of the Peninsula by the French troops seems to be placed beyond doubts— .. SANTANDER, YEB. 23. man gui4got be, idchseedy' thasi.wee. fumbled by the Honourable Gentleman" (Att. Whitbread.)- --,The Right Hon. GcntleMan had thought proper to take an advantage (and he would allow him to say an unworthy advantage) 01 that attention to Parlia mentary usages on the part of the Hon*. Gentleman,. which made him unwilling to say positively what were the piecise words which he had used, and with drawing an assertion made when any other Hon. Member disclaimed words which had been imputed to him. Now he (Sir Francis Burdett) could not draw any thing unfavourable to the character of hu man memory in general, or that of the Hon. Gentle man (Mr. Whitbread) id particular, from what had fallen from him this night. But the whole butiness which had given rise to the late proceedings in Par liament was so confused and so anomalous, that he was not surprised that difficulties and irregularities ' of differont kinds should arise, which could not come within those technical rules by which Learned Gen tlemen wished them to be bound on the present oc casion. His (Sir Francis Burdett's) impression when the paper was brought forward was, that Mrs. Lisle %fished to correct her deposition, which had been made to convey a stronger expression than she had intended it should carry. This was then the impression on his mind, and even now he could feel no . other: In her deposition she had omitted something which she wished to supply, which it was said she ought not now to be permitted to do.— When they considered the manner in which these de positions were taken (not having been taken in the ' common and regular way), it must appear to them that it was possible for a witness afterwards to re mark, that the deposition appeared to give a stronger expression against an innocent person than she wished it to c ,, nvey, and in such a case it appeared to him the ends of substantial justice would be answered by the statement being corrected. Time had pressed so hard on the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Whit bread), that he had no opportunity of taking those Steps hich it had been said he ought to have taken, to verify the paper which he had produced. He could not agree in the reprehensions- which the Honourable Gentleman had undergone, because he had done his duty in that House, where they were not tied by the forms of the Courts of Law. He gave his thanks to the Honourable Member for the manner in which he had conducted the business, and he could not feel any regret for any circumstance connected, as he had no wish but that the innocence of the Princess of Wales should be made manifest ; and it now was, by the publications which ? had taken place, made mani fest to all the world. Mr. PONSONBYrwith some warmth, denied that he had taken any unworthy advantage of his Hon. Friend. He had only observed a mistake into which he hiatsclt had contessed that he had fallen. Mr. WHITBREAD did not consiaer his Right Hon. Friend as having taken any unworthy •:idvan tage of him. He was sorry it his Right Hoe. Friend had taken a wrong impression of his conduct, be cause he could not recollect all this had been said by every Member on the subject. Here the coaversAtion mint SCUOOLS. Sir JOHN NEWPORT, after a variety of obser vations on the state of Public Education in Ireland, concluded by moving, that a Select Corimrittee be Apprinied to examine the same—to consider the plain recommended in tLe 14th Report of the Commis sioners under the 46th of the King—and 'to report their opinions az to the best method of speedily ex tending education throughout Ireland—and ot ren dering effectual the funds appropriated to that desir able object. • Mr. PEELE opposed the motion, as unnecessary, because a Bill on this very subject was already before the House. After a discussion of some length; in which Mr. WELLESLEY POLE and Mr. Wm. FITZGERALD took a part, and a reply from Sir J. NZWPORT, the motion was put and negatived. VINANCIL The CHANCELLOR of the EICHEQUER r expressed his regret that his Motion on the Finance of thS Country, which stood for this evening,. should experience any farther delay $ but at that late hour it would be impossible to bring it forward, so as to give it that consideration, and do it that justice, which its very great importance required. He hoped, however, this would be the Est time it would be de ferred, and that when it should be fixed it would be brought on early, and receive the most full and ample discussion. The Order of the Day for the House to resolve it selt into a Committee on this subject, was then dis. charged, and a new Order made for Thursday. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned. • THE EVENING STAR (rkom TOIL coltyNNA DlAzir, OF TIIE 91H MARCH.) " The French have evacuated ad the NlJiitaria, with the ex ception of bantona. They remain in Whoa, which point they are considerably fortifying. lu Vittoria there are united al,our 16,000 men, for what purpose weare ignorant. General hien cizabel is in Azpeylia ; and although ho marched to attack Bil boa, judged it right to retire. " MARCH I.We have /fist luarntd that Madrid was evacu ated by the French on the lids February,' who, according to all a, I.earances, are falling back to the left of the Ebro; and some are of opinion that Joseph's Court will be provisionally established at Vittoria. " General eaffarelli, with his di►ision, has marched for Frince. " Geceral Cambron, with the Gene d'Armn and the Wye rial Guarth, which were inMos, is iiktwise marching in the same direction as C./Hamill. General Pslornbine has reklaced General Cambron at Biiboa. " NOTE or THE EDITult.-By a private letter received poste rior to :hat from Santander, from V:Baton, we knew that the in trusive King had actually :et out from Madrid, and that on the .2d instant Le was in Valladolid, intending to proceed forward." " OVIEDO, FEBRUARY O. " They write from Santander, that on the 11th instant Senor -Longa bad an action near Poza, in which the French lost near 800 men, viz. 400 killed or wounded, and 400 krisoners. Among the lat- r t 6 Officers, besides artillery, baggage, and money." " MARCH 2.-A letter was received here on the Ist instant from a per Non deserving of credit, stating, that Mina had Waal Tafego, and SO6 men, who gariisoned It, and although General Abbe came from Pamplona to succour it, he did not succeed , but was beaten and put to flight." " CIUDAD Rouaisio.-1 he depots of provisions at Zamora and Toro, and those which were between the 'formes and the Douro, are removing to Valladolid and Burgos. In Madrid a great scarcity of provisions is experienced." nit with' the most sincere regret that we have to announce the death of her Royal Highness the Du chess of BRUNSWICK, who expired last night at a quart.r-past nine o'clock. Her Royal Highness liad been subject to an asthmatic complaint for some years, which was increased by the epidemic disorder now , pres'aEnt, with which, she was attacked about two days ago, but no alarm was excited till the morning of yesterday. About five o'clock her Royal High ness seemed better, but a spasm came upon her chest about eight, and her Roy4l Highness died at nine o' c lock, witho u t p a i n . Her Royal Highness was the only surviving sister of his present MAaiiirrv, and mother of the Princess of WALES; of course there will be a Court Mourning for s tew weeks. The Princess CHARLOTTE is perfectly restored to health. Her Royal Highness takes the exercise of lriding in the grounds at the back of Carlton-House, and in her carriage in Hyde Park. A requisition is now signing, to request the LORD MAYOR to call a Common Hall, to consider of ad dressing her Royal Highness the Princess of Wm.= on the atrocious attempts made on her life and honour. We yesterday stated that Government had it in contemplation to assist the inhabitants of the North of Europe in their struggle for national independence in an efficient manner, and we now understand that 25,000 Prussians are about to be taken into British pay. CORN•MARKET, MARK-LANE, MARCH s 4. We had for this day's market a few fresh arrivals of Oats, which caused that article to sell very slowly at rather worse prices. Fine Wheat, being in demand, sold readily at an advance of Is. per quarter. Rye Is. and Grey Peas es. per quarter lower. Fine Harley and Malt supported their prices, but inferior almost un saleable. In Beans, White Peas, and other grain, no alteration. Wheat 725. 104 s. 114 s. I Potatoe ditto, 525. 511 s. Row ditto, to 198 s. Yortign do. 841. 1,1511. Rye 70s. 775. Barley 50s. 645. Vine do. 795. Rape Seed £5O, £5ll per last. Linseed, 531. Ks. per qr. Ditto, fo , Seed, 90e. Inos. Coriander do. per cwt. Ste. 411‘ Caraway, ditto, nu*. 84s. Malt, V6e. 1091. Ditto fine Ware, 1101. Canary do. 90s. 10os. per qr. White Mustard Seed, 141. 9ts. White Peas (boilers) 90. XIOL Grey, ditto, 8:s. 841. Beans 72s • 80s. per bushel. Brown do. 20..285. Clover Seed, white, per cwt Tick ditto 64$ 745. Oats (feed) 235. 30s. fine 40$. Poland iltto, 40e. 465. rim kiwr 105 s le 110 s. 90..1401. Ditto, red, 80s. 126 g. "Farts, per bushel, 141. 201. D/Ids lOos. to 1051. per sick. 4trREAt JO S EPH AND THE FRENCH TROOPS FROM SPAIN. CAPTURE OF TAFALLA, BY THE SPA NIARDS; STALOFFICI. TWO O'CLOCK. Government have received Dispatches from Co. runna, dated on the lath instant. They confign the important intelligence of the Spaniards under MINA, the enterprising Guerilla Chieftain, having taken Tafalla, vtith 450 Prisoners, after an Obstinate resistance on the part of the French. Tafalla is situated 18 miles south of Pamplona, and tits occupation by the Spaniard; is likely to be the :mean+ of intercepting the retreat of the French to France. According to the same - accounts, JOSEPII had ar rived at Valladolid, with a view to establish himself at Vittoria. envy/mw was believed, at Corunna, to be in !full retreat for France, at the Lead of the ♦eteran French troops in the Peninsula. NAVAL INIELLIGENCI. FALMOUTH, MARCH 21. Arrived the Queen Charlotte packet in eight days from Cfra 1 runna, with a mail PM back the Nesochester packet, with a mail T or Halifax. The ships in the Roads, notwithstandl: glt Blows very strung, we rifling perfectly safe. A large American chip, with a valuable cargo on board for Bordeaux. has been taken and carrie4 into Cartudna.—Wind S.W. Kraus gales 4141 dirty weather. PLYMOUTH, MARCH 22. Arrived the HaLtede sloop of war, from a crvise i having brought in with her a valuable American prize. Another Ame rican prize has also arrived to-day, taken by one of our cruisers and several mote are now corning into the harbour. Also arrived the Young Dixon coaster, from she Coast of Guie.ea, which she left the 3d of Decetoloer : about two months since spot. the Curses elciiip of war, oat Ilse weeks from Cork, with seien. sail under convoy fur the eirazils. Sailed Pie PHLARANT, of IR guns, on a crutze; Bit•itacx, 10 guns, for Corut.na; Ottawas& and SexcuLa•roa, will a large !Pet for Portsmouth and tiro Downs ; and the Cha:haat Duck • yard .ritispot t, for Portsmouth. The PERSRI3, of 18 guns, went front Harmitze to tbe -ound.•-• The Pilots here report, that a ship of vt at, e. hich they comititt to be the Bonne Citoreoce, patio,: up Char:to-a yesterday. PORTSMOUTH, MARCH Arrived his Majesty's 'kip A LOP. 10 froni teuernsey. Balled his Majesty's ships CIIIIIRTIAN SeVRNTII tor the Dawns; Fox, iuccass, art.! Divasnx,for Plyniouth ; and the Near,. SfAR on a cru;ze. iii, Ntajeiey's ship ABTA ii appointed convoy for the WeA-Inctlis, 'and the Wtstor Set N a for c:nernaey and Jersey. ...4attlN.W. moderate weather. 0. DEAL, MARCH 2d. Sailed. the whole of ,she conward-bo , d, under convoy of his Majesty's ship R•PiDall4 w. EURO!, Po: tfezouth The Co t. Sawn shop or war accompanied them. Arrival the Coital le 11 i a vs uTu arum Port tanoutb.—Wind S. E. • YARMOUTH, MARCH Sailed yesterday P. M. the Usti:Hatt, Carrtain iterrmaig, fee, 110401a:1d, and this ,morning eke Acres sloop of war, with `etch resouris fur the Nay. and Ytno Gaostia on a guise. Arrived from Hull, tee WATCHIUL ; IROCMANTIRLILRIL f om ditto, with convoy for the Downs.—Remaly the Sokbay and Daphne frigates, and Leveret sloop of war. CHATHAM, MALCH 21. The Siti.TAn Is taken iota dock, and as soon as she can be png out, the JUI'ITIIR (Russian ship) will be taken In r she is quits re:oy for that purpose, being unmasted, and her lailta.t taken out. '1 use Sr. ALBANS and the Sung are ordert,l to imams up, and will be taken into dock for that porpoise. soon metier service of the Port will admit. The Gazette of last night contains the Official ac count of the gallant action f.ught by the AMILLIA off the coast or Attica. No pers, , a, zlier perusing Cap tain Inn's statement, can wiihholl his praise from the' brave men who so boldly sustained the honour of the British flag , Jo the occasron. The cartel was at New York the 12th Fe. bruarv, and seas expected to touch at another port ie Arnelies, before she proceeded to Eugland. The Biil for the exclusion of Foreign Seamen from all vessels belonging to the United States, has passed the House of Representatives. By letters received from the French coast this morning, it is known that the Austrian Ambassadot has arrived at Paris, ou his journey to this country, and is hourly expected at Dover. RUSSIA.—The following Russian Tariff, which has been sent to the Emperor ALEXANDZIt for his signa ture, and approved of by the Senate, may be deemed as official. It is a document of much importance to our commercial Readers SUPPLEMENT TO THE TARIFF OP latl AND HIM Paper, from 5 ILouWet to 2.5 per Ream. Mushus, worked or embroidered, di to Handkeeckleis alit Shawls, and an sorts of Cotton Gouda, widte add *Wowed, 2 Roubks per Arsheen. Chintz and P:inted Handkerchiefs, 11-per ditto. Velyerets and Fustian*, I Rout:doper diuo. Vendle, 50 Roubles per Paid. Wines are permitted to be imported according to the Tariff of 11111 and 1812, likewise in bottles, erc.epting Champagne and Brandies—Dory, 100 roubles per auker. Rum and Arrack, 1110 roubles. Spirits and Balsam Waters, 3 roubles per bottle. Mineral Waters, duty free. Mustard, 20 roubles per pood. Figs, 10 roubles per cwt. Mathematical and surgical Instruments, &e. duty free. Pianofortes, Organs, and Harpsickurds, 100 Roubles en& Capers, 5 Roubles. White Lead, 4 ditto. Minium 4 ditto. Lineu and Linen Handkerchiefs, 1 Rouble per Arabian. Fine Napkins, 5 Roubles. Fine Ribbons, 10 ditto per Piece. - Olives 10 Roubles per Pood. Eartanware, 1 Rouble a large Piece. Ditto, mallet, as Plates 1 ea-cups , Str.. 10 Copeck*. India Rueber, so Roubles per Food. Refined Sugars, 25 ditto ditto. Sugar Candy, 25 ditto ditto. Liquorice, 5 ditto ditto. Soy, 2 Roubles per Bottle. Cheese, 6 ditto per Pood. Vinegar, 15 ditto per Hhd. Apples, Pear*, Plums, and Nati, S Rambles par Barrel of d Ankers. Chesnut', S Roubles per Pood. Stockings (Silk), iit Arsheens lung, and larger, 40 Roubks pet Dozen Pair. Stockings (shorter), SO Roubles per Dozen. Cluldretts Stockings, 20 ditto ditto. Cotton. and Worsted Stockings (long), 1$ Re Roubles—Children, 6 Roubles per Dozen. Silk Goods, 2J Roubles per Piece. Ribbons (Silk) 40 ditto ditto. Cloth (Woollen) 5 4 Arsheen wide, 5 Roubles per Ambito. Cassimert s and Ladies' Cloths, S Roubks per ditto. Ordinary English Cloth, &c. i ditto ditto. Serge" and Baize, 57 Copecks ditto. Essaidnas, Druggets, Callmancoes, Flannels, Sm. 19 Copeck* per Arsheen. Suaw linty 5 &tibia each. r, le