Star. — London, England, 1830-02-13 00:00:00

;- ____ ill 1 P !Pr' VA L ,4 & --- .4•4" . A • Z • • d' • .••• tveci-xred in the midst of a mos t important and dangerous wax. • • • Otis to that we had a much lower criterion with respect to the prim of tau/ army and navy. ' For instance, in 1793, the cost of the arm ,' was only 2,500,0001. whereas it was now (including half pay) enci , it eight millions. In 1793, the expenses of the navy were '2.750,090!. in 1829 they reached six millions. The ordnance depart -ment coat 459,000/. In 4793, and 1,500,0001. in 1829. Thus the total cost of our warlike establishments in 1793 was 5,709,0001. hut in 1829 they amounted to 15,500,0001. Let it not be forgotten, that in 1793 wheat was 50s. a quarter, and that in 1830 it was 555. a quarter ; so that, where one bushel of wheat was required for the ,•tipport of these establishments in 1793, three bushels were called tor at the present day,in consequence of their increased ex The reportof the finance committee stated that the warlike establishments .of :he country were required to be kept up, not so much with refs . 'ence to the possibility of war, but with a view to defend us against toreign invasion; and recommended retrenchment. He was afraid of ratigoinr, the house, but there were one or two points more whtell he wished to touch upon. He was desirous of adverting to ate per tentage charged on the collection of the revenue. He thought that the time had arrived when it was desirable that the gross receipts of the Excise should be carried to the public account, so as to enable us to see the actual payments made without deduc tion. The per tentage in the collection of the customs was 81 per cent. on 19,000,0001 ; on 22,000,0801. produced by the Excise, the per centage:was 4L 9s. The expense of collection had gone on in creasing, for while in 1810 it only amounted to 4L 9s. per cent., it was now 51. 19s. 2d., or in round numbers six per cent. He did• not wish to do any thing invidious ; but there was one salary to which he should call the attention of the house. The father of the houaurable member fbr Notthamptonshire, in 1798, when at the head of the board which sent Nelson to con quer at the Nile and Duncan at Camperdown, was content with salary of 3,000 L a year, yet now, with prices reduced to the scale prevalent previous to 1798, we paid Lord Melville 5,0001. per annum,—an increase of nearly GO per cent. upon the salary paid to Lord Spencer. The number of persons employed in the civil ser vice in 1797 was (according to authentic returns) 18,287, and their .salaries amounted to 1,374,5611. giving an average salary of 841 a year to each individual. In 1827, the number of persons em ployed had increased to 22,912, and their salaries to 2,788,0001. the average salary being 1211. Thus it appeared that there had been au addition of one-third to the number of emplogees,snd an increase of fifty per cent. on their salaries in 1827, as compared with 1797. The precious metals were the nominal, but bread COM was the real standard of value. In 1810 wheat was 105 s. the quarter; at re sent it was fobs. So that in the former year, which was the mare expensive period, it would have taken 500,000 quarters of corn to pay what it would now require 1,000,000 quarters to pay. It was not fair that the servants of the Crown should receive double salaries, and pay half prices. (Hear, and laughter.) On this imperfect view of the subject, be was yet willing to rest his case. He confessed that he was one of those who viewed with the utmost jealousy the elevation of the Duke of Wellington to the highest office in the state in 1828. lie did not think that a military education was the best preparation for administering the affairs of a free state. He feared that the noble duke might transfer to the administration of the government the doctrine of the camp, and recognise no con nexion between the prince and the people except that of rigid command and implicit obedience. But reflection led him to see that he who had achieved such actions, aided by the courage of the'peo ple of England—that he who had so frequently conducted to victory a race of men who proved themselves by their conduct the lords of the human kind.—would not fall into such an error, and he had not been altogether disappointed in his expectations. On his first accession to power, the noble duke supported the repeal of the test and corporation acts. Besides, there was a more recent act of that distinguished person, which had much delighted him: be abided to the act of conferring the merited honours of his professional& distinguished barrister, once an ornament of that house, nod whom be wished again to see within those walls—a man who was content to hazard the sacrifice of professional advancement in the conscientious discharge of his duty towards an unhappy woman. The noble duke had succeeded in carrying a measure which Mr. Pitt declared to be the key-stone of the union between Englank and Ireland, and which he was yet unable' to perfect ; which Mr. Fox, though he had advocated it strenuously and powerfully, did not venture to bring forward as a ministerial measure ; for an attempt to carry which Lords Grey and Grenville had been hurled from power ;—which Mr. °rotten, although ready to sacrifice his life in the cause, had been unable with all his great and varied talents to accomplish ;—which caused to Mr. Canning, because be could not effect it, a degree of are and sorrow that doubtless accelerated his death, and occasioned his impatient mind. "A flay soul which, working out Its way, Fretted his pigmy body to decay, And o'ainformed the tenement of clay." This was hisisincere opinion with respect to Mr. Canning, and he sow expressed It, notwithstanding the calumny and misrepresents. tion to which that statesman had been subjected. The noble duke, - nothing daunted at the failure of his predecessors, made the attempt, and won the day, effecting an unequalled triumph in the establish ment of civil and religious pace. These were great obligations which the Duke of Wellington had laid upon his country, but they were not sufficient. Time hurried on, day by day we were eallal upon for our decision upon points of economy and retrenchment, and our decision could not long lag behind the public expectation. The Duke of Wellington's administration was said to be founded on the dissolution of party feeling—it was intimated that the noble duke possessed a receipt for the dispasion of party, and the blending of men of all sides and opinions. For instance. there was Lord Rosa lyn, Lord Privy Seal; and the other day the Mint was offered to the . noble lord the member for Buckinghamshire : we had a Whig At torney. General, and another hon. gentleman from the same ranks was lately appointed to a high judicial office in Scotland. Then drop. ping among the free tr ad ers, the noble duke picked out a tame ele phant for the Board of Control. (laughter.) This was an admirable nostrum. No doubt the noble duke possessed the secret of dispers ing and neutralising factions and preventing the existence of party; but was the nostrum equally efficacious for the purpose of forming a party ? Or could a government be carried on without one ? It would seem as if the noble duke possessed a crucible, whereby all parties were to be fused down into one mass, for the exclusive benefit of the great alchymist who blew the coals..—(Hear, and laughter). For his part he did not much approve of this and saw no safety for the public interest except in dealing wrt i h uc e e at individual question, as it happened to be brought forward, upon its own abstract merits, without reference to the quarter from whence it proceeded ; without reference to the motives which dictated its intro. duction, or the effects which it might have on the * fortunes or dors sion of the administration. It might be thought that the time was come when it was necessary to form a party on behalf of the tak-payer. He perceived nothing dishonourable in the conduct of tae hon. member for Kent, or in the conduct of his hon. relative, the member for Yorkshire, in the course they proposed to pursue, and be was willing to act in concert with them for the furtherance of public objects. He would not be deterred from discharging his duty by the imputation of improper motives. He owed it to his constituents thus to discharge his duty. He sought for nothing at the hands of ministers, and he should continue to Act independently so long as he had the honour to address the Commons House of Parliament, which, with all its faults, he considered the oohing assembly of freedom in the world. The honourable baronet concluded by moving a resolution to the effect, that whereas subtle. quently to the act of the 37th Geo. 111. by which a suspension of cash payments was effected, large augmentations bad taken place in the salaries and pay of persons in civil and military employments, on account of the diminished value of money, and whereas the al leged reasons for such augmentations had cowed to operate in eon sequence of the passing of the 59th IIL which restored a me tallic standard of value, resolved that, in order to relieve the country from its excessive load of taxation, it was expedient to revise our present system of expenditure in respect of all such augmi,tiowi, tor the purpose of making every possible reduction tW amid be e ff ec t e d without violation of good faith or detriment to pubßejeatiew Mr. O. DAWSON admired the eloquence of the hon. = which he could not imitate. His business was to apply to facts. The proposed measure would affect the interest, MI he might say the existence of thousands. It was easy to talk at establishing a fixed principle In paying salaries, but it was not ne easy to reduce it to practice. He contailled that almost all the re. commendations of_ the fi nance committee had been acted upon. The Governorship of the Cinque Ports wee abolished, as were the auditorships In England and Ireland ; and in all thirty4wo sinecures, many of which were se high as 4,0001. aless, wad in all cases it was required that persons holding situations *mid themselves perform the duties of their respective situations. NM the honourable gentleman went into a detail of the several vela. dons made by Government. The effect of this resolutiokbe said; would be to give the high officers of government a NOM salary than they had at present; the fact wee, it was, salaries of the inferior officers which had Wm i what the principals had not as much as in 1797; and i iau bs li t not think the House would decrease the salaries. of those who could less afford it. The truth was, also, great semisoft!. had been made by government in the consolidation of pohne ales there had been a reduction of 930,0001. in the eantams abler 3073 an had been removed from' that department, and whop vacancies occurred, those gentlemen who were were appointed, and their allowances saved to theipiblic present system oceuXimen to l arge not Olio* For bof mOB hes, wbielk bad ke t . werly been amounts. b that the inferior officers in ail the departments use lealaS and if the Loootamble &Oman would conelisr mutton (load laughter,) he would repeat it, ipso% .an g the other Deassmies Of Oh. iihich had Mama in pelea slaps im s they would not be inclined to reduce public Wanes. ComPiaime.ej grist distress , in Ithleind have been made, sad ea a Mow mad" had . been pirikukey alleded to. NWT the &cruse that • • • ~: the authority of an Irish banker for saying that for the last thirty years rents there were never better pai d. (Hear.) He was greatly surprised at hearing the member for Limalck following the member for the county Owe in saying distress was increasing in Ireland. The forms of the house forbad him from moving an amendment upon an amendment, but be should oppose the amend. meat of the hon. member, and if be succeeded in that opposition he would propose a series of resolutions to the following dine : Resolved, " That his majesty has been pleased to assure the house that be would give direction that an enquiry abould be in. stituted, with a view to reduce the number as well as the salaries of passim ssepioyed in the public offices. " leash* That an humble address be pigmented to his Ma jetty, pletyles dist his Majesty would be graciously pleased to direct that to mem. ellosld be laid before the house. of the progress sods Is Obi fivitp " lesslyerl, Thee it is the opinion of this house, that every say ins omen talos made is the salaries of public officers, and in every otheebane6 of the expenditure, that can be done without violating existZt e ergements, or without occasioning detriment to the pub licssnke. These were the resolutions which be would submit to the house; and he believed they were rather better calculated than the amend mont of the hon. baronet to attain the object which he had himself in view. --(Cheers.) Mr. CHOKER stated, that at the Admiralty, in 174, the salary of the First Lord was higher than it was now ; and the First Secre tary then received 6,4001. the salary was now 3,0001. Mr. S. RICE contended the motion was most properly brought forward; but he must add, that he would not consent to any altera tion of the standard. Mr. DAWSON (explained. He did not for one moment mean to east the least reflection on his honourable friend the member for Limerick. _ _ WARRENDER wished to know from the Treisury Bench whether it was the determination this session to propose any increase of salaries to the judges in Scotland. Mr. O'CONNELL said that Mr. Latouche, the banker alluded to, was opetradieted in Dublin by the unanimous voice of a society eetehlkiel be the improvement of Ireland, and from the knowledge he bsd et helmet, he could take upon himself to say that great die tress Wilted there. Lord MORPETH would most strenuously support any measure of economy, convinced as he was that nothing but rlgkl economy could possibly save this country So .n a general spoliation of ppeertrty His lordship then passed a high eulogium on the late Mr. Tierney, whose wit, he said, had so often enlivened that house, whose splendid talents had for RO long a series of years graced it.— He was happy in having that opportunity of paying this tribute of respect to the memory of this valued man. That man had voted at all times for a reduction of the expenditure of the country. He should do the same, let it be brought forward in whatever shape it might. Mr. HUME should prefer the amendment of the has. Secretary to the motion of his hon. friend the member for Cumberland, be. cause it was more clear and more comprehensive. Seeing the ex treme and universal distress which now pervaded the country, he could not think that it would be inconsistent in that house to ped. tion his majesty to reduce his establishment. Sir J. WROTTESLEY said a few words, which were inaudible in the gallery. Mr. DUNCOMB e thought ministers ought to have come down and acknowledged th distressed state of the country, and proposej 'some measure to assist in its removal. Mr. M. A. TAYLOR trusted that the steps they would take would be such as to give relief to the distress which then existed. Mr. PREL hoped that the house would adopt the amendment of his hon. friend.• The right hon. secretary then dwelt at con siderable length upon the state of the currency, and contended that a mixed currency would not be such as to suit the commer. dal exigencies of this country. He regretted that the measures he and his colleagues had introduced last session, had been the means of their losing the good opinion of several esteemed friends. He did not feel sorrow at having advocated the cause of Catholic emancipation. He thought the amendment was better than the hon. baronet's motion, as it would enable ministers to chew what had been done in the way of reduction since the fdnnation of the present ~ After a few words from Mr. Attwood, and another member whose name we could not learn, Sir J. GRAHAM' withdrew his proposition; and the amend ment being agreed to, the report was brought up, and ordered to be further considered on Monday. The House adjourned at Half-past Eleven o'Clock. STATE OF THE COUNTRY. From the Morning Herald. The distress of the country increases; while the " wisdom" of Parliament ranges over the globe to find subjects of debate, and topics of political sympathy , and excitement, the industrious population at home languish under the pressure of calamity that ought to forestall and engross the attention of our Representatives and the anxiety of our Rulers. In the mean time accounts of the difficulties and embarrassments which beset din country pour in upon us from all sides, nor have we space for the insertion of one half of them. We are not exclisionista in charity, but we do not admire that erratic benevolence which circumnavigates the world to find out materiel for the exercise of the generous feel-' ings of our nature,while our countrymen perish around us, and cry for our protection in vain. There are jour nals that have affected the tone of philanthropy by expatiating upon the miseries of Spanish and Portuguese refugees, and at the same time sneer at and taunt the sufferings of Englishmen. There are also Senators whose hearts seem to embrace in their expansive sym pathies the afflicted and oppressed of every clime and region but their own. It matters not to them how many degrees of latitude the objects of their generous care are removed from their immediate inspection —the farther the better ; but to misery at borne, how ever poignant and general, they are cold and insen sible. Sir ROBERT WILSON exhausts his sympathies on the republicans of Mexico—Mr. Fowell Buxton sighs over the black population of the West Indies ; one takes the rocks and patriots of Terceira under his pro tection ; another searches for objects of compassion on the pestilential shores of Africa. Alas ! all this time the people of England, are in a situation to give full employment to all the benevolence and active humanity which distinguish the " collective wisdom" of the nation. We should have thought the first and impe rative duty of Parliament when they were, after too much delay, called together, was to inquire into, and re lieve, the distresses of the country. No—it could not be; for it was discovered within the walls of Parlia ment that the distress was only partial, and confined to some districts though every body outside those walls imagined that it was general. This is the first great discovery which has resulted from the assembling of the " Great Council." What others will follow it is not easy to anticipate. Mr. Hume and Mr. Robhouee with other equally celebrated advocates of the , popular cause, have assisted Ministers in making this discovery, and, no doubt, the public will evince their grateful sense of the patriotic sagacity which they have displayed. We presume the laurels of their civil triumphs will not be the less flourishing for putting forth their spring verdure under the genial influence of Ministerial sun shine. Certainly the Duke of Wellington owes much to the twenty-seven " champions of liberty," who, by rallying round his banners in the hour of need, saved him from one of the most sudden and signal defeats which the wilful obstinacy of a Minister ever provoked. Perhaps, however, it would have been both more manly and more dignified in his Grace not to have risked gush a crisis at the outset of the Parliamen " • especially as it could have been avoided by making the King's Speech the vehicle of tindibeelnik as to the distresses of the country and the sabbs. the people ; truth, which is the best subedit'', for elo quence, or its most enduring ornament. But all Ulm' English feeling has not perished from the House of CAN wins. There is yet within its walls, we trust, Mott. preserve the vitality of Its representation. As as stance refreshing to the mind amid more than artliaary complaisance to power and desertion of theap pears the steady, vigorous, uncompromising andust, ofi the Marquis of Blandford. He was at his post WWl* subject more important thee the •ceasideratioa of -due vague and illusory statements in the Royal Speech was to be entered upon. Yes—when the order of the day for the House going into a Committee of Supply was read on Tuesday night, the Marquis of Blandford was prepared to perform his duty to his country, although the Whig benches were nearly deserted, and the Treasury did not think it necessary to retain their forces in the field. It was the custom of our ancestors, previously to voting supplies, to demand a redress of grievances. This custom had be come nearly obsolete—the courtesy of modern days had superseded the stern virtue of antiquity. It was perhaps the barbarism of our forefathers that made them exercise a jealous vigilance over the public purse, and refuse the voting supplies'opon either the solicitations or threats of a Minister until grievances were redressed. In their simpli city they believed that the power of the purse con ferred all other power, and therefore they were rude and unaccommodating enough to refuse to fill the coffers of Government until they vindicated the rights of the people. In modern times this vantage ground of the public cause has been generally surrendered without a struggle, in consequence of some courteous " arrangement" in accordance with the temper of an age of polished innovation. The Marquis of BLAND FORD, who, as a Member of the House of Commons, ap ppm to be more conversant with the ancient history of Parliament than its modem code of manners, remained, as we have stated, at his post, to move an amendment on the House going into a Committee of Supply. In doing so, he used the old-fashioned but very expres sive language, that "he felt himself called upon in duty to oppose in Entine the granting of one shilling of supply to his Majesty." Why ? His reasons were —" the distresses of the country were so great--the cries of the people for relief so loud, and the promises of his Majesty's Ministers so unsatisfactory." This language was certainly more energetic than polite; and, in a spirit equally congenial with the character of our ancient "gothic" institutions, he moved, as an amend ment, " that this house will not vote any supply or es timate until the grievances of the people be taken into consideration, and relief for their distress be granted." A proposition so contrary to modern practice, and built on such obsolete precedents—precedents only to be found in the " old almanack" of history, and not at all admitted among the " rules and regulations" of the re fined patriotism of modern days, absolutely astonished the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He gave utterance to that astonishment by saying " he did not come to the house prepared for• any such amendment as the present. The noble lord had certainly adopted a novel course towards the house, and one which was not likely to produce a very favourable effect on the public gene rally." Now, when the Chancellor of the Exchequer called this a novel course, he must have meant it as such, in the sense in which it has been said that " all novelty is but oblivion "—for it was so ancient, and so long disused, that it had pretty well gone out of Parliamentary remembrance, and, like a revived old fashion in dress, retuined upon us with all the freshness and originality of invention. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had, however, a more secure protection than in the " novelty" of the practice against the constitutional rudeness of such a proceeding. What was that ? the paucity of numbers in the House! Will it be believed hereafter, that, at such a crisis as this—a crisis of unexampled national suffering and calamity the desertion of their posts by the repre sentatives of the people was the best security of the Minister ? The Chancellor of the Exchequer met the amendment, when argument was wanting—when appeals to polite usages and complaisant customs failed—by de claring that no division could take place, as there were not sufficient Members to constitute a Home. Yet there were enough to make a Committee of Supply, and to vote away the money of the people ; and often have millions been voted, and the most important business of the country transacted, by as small a number as were then present. The reply of the Marquis of Blandford to the observations of the Minister of France deserves to be remembered, and, at the next general elec tion, it ought to be recalled to the particular atten tion of every Member of Parliament by his constituents. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had alluded to an arrangement respecting an amendment which the Ministers had received notice would be moved in the Committee of Supply on Friday. "lam no party," said the Noble Marquis, " to any arrange ment of business for Friday.' If Hon. Gentlemen are not in their places it is their fault, not mine. Here I am, and here I am determined to remain, and do my duty." This was an answer worthy of the spirit of the best days of the English House of Commons—those days associated with the proudest recollections—when stern, unyielding, • and intrepid public integrity, laid the foundation of that national grandeur and prosperity which the courteous and suppliant patriotism of later times had not the virtue to preserve—those days when the dread of being supposed to " embarrass the measures of Government" did not shake from its firm purpose the honest resolution of the Representatives of the people! CITY, Tw E WAILS ARRIVED AND DUE Tit ,Lvic o'CLocx. IS MORNING. A. b. A. D. A. D. 1. Dab1in......... 0 0 France . 0 0 Lisboa ..... .. 0 I Waterford ..... 0 0 Flanders 0 0 Jamaica 0 O Guerra. & Jersey 0 0 Holland 0 0 Sweden I O Leeward Islands 0 0 Hamburgb .... 3 ILa Guayra Our arrivals this morning are very few, and of no importance Consols opened at the same price they kit off yesterday, 92i to 1; for the Amount ; and for Money, V2j ; with very lit tle doing at meat. The Foreign Market is also in a:state of inactivity, and the prices much the same as yesterday. HALF-PAST ONE O'CLOCK. Commis have continued during the whole of the morning at 104 fee the Account, alternately buyers and sellers, with little doing ; and far Money 92. t1L .....6.............„ NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. Dui, Pas. 8.-2=71 the John, Donseembe, and Guardian, Dawson, from India. Arrived from London, the Robert, Bteriker, for the West Indies. Poems:wry, Fn. Ig.—plod' B.—Arrived the Josephine, Pdildenhawsen, from Rio Janeiro. Fll3. 11.—Arrived the Lima, from Buenos Ayres ; Geo. Brock, Herbert, and Scotia, Curdy, from Paraiba ; Pantaloon, Miller, from Demerara; Catherine, &ephsesoo, and Colombia, Potter, from Charkeston • Olive Branch, ing, and Georgia, Nauman, from Savannah; ;sod Concordia, frost Virgiela. PLyworen Fan. 11.—Wind a—Arrived the Neptune, Bar clay, from Terceln. Fautount, Pea. 11.—Wind 8. Cwt, 12.—Arrived the atyandeur ' front Malaga. Denim, Fes. 10.—Arrived the Mary Clarke, ButtershaU, front Demerara • Dublin Packet, from New Took; and Sonterset. Pensaa, front Messkia. ;W PAI LN6DOM MA' DA' Thar;Was an abundant supply of Am mast at tbla market to day, and the market was very respectably attended. Boar—Flnest Roman parts. M. and lit per lb. Ditto Bei/bs6 aid. Eva gvantletof oath, 441. and did. R o o li g i t a r e z Yd. Ramp of Met, 4d. Winans blirson—Lsg, gfid. 6d. Saddle, dd. 81toaldm, 5141,. Neck. Breast„ 4d. Vias.-1 Leg, 71d. Lain, 71d. Breast, 7141. aMelder, gia, pass— , 411th. to lid. NBWOATB AND LBADEWBALL—THIS DAY. Byte Camme.-i-Per acme el Albs. beet lid to Se Ad gg w r 64 Mass sew se Si 1 Pet 'cm,. se od wed s-~-~~~: THE EVENING STAR. Ilk • 1. 4 )1( &tit P GATOS 14 1.4:g• LON i)i )N. SATURDAY, I PRICE OF STOCTII Rink Stock 3181 19 3 per Cent. Red.. 911 3 3 per Ct. Cnns. 99) 3) per Ct. 131$, 3) per Cr. Red. 100e' h 4 per Cent. 1911 I 4 per Ct. 1826. Long Ann. 19h 11-18th. Do. 30 Years, 19 7-18th. EBRUARY 13. AT TWO O'CLOCK Do. Do. ltd.& Jan. 19 1-16tli India Stock. !Si India Bonds 76 7 New Annuities £lOOO Esch.Bills 77 • £5OO Ditto 77'S 41100 and MOO Do. 77 8 India for Acct. Cons. for Amin* FOREIGN FUND Brash Bd•, 5 pr Ct. 70i Ditto Acet. 6 TOI 70 Burn." Ayr. lids. 6 p Ct. 30 Colom. Bds.6 per Ct. Ditto 100. 33 Do. lids. 1824. 43a Do. Ace. 43 Do. 100, 24 Greek Bonds, 5 p Ct. 351 TWO O'CLOCK. Do. B. 1825, 5 pCt. 361 6 Ditto Are. 361 di 6* 6 Me=. Bcls. 5 per Ct. Da B. 1825.6 p Ct. Dn. Ace, 25 Port. Bd.. 5 p. Q. Do. Ace. 581 Bp. Bde. 5 per Ct. 155 Do. Ace. 134 +I There seems to be no doubt entertained at Paris of the fill of the Pouott Ac Ministry, immediately after the °peeing of the Chambers. The Dibats of Tuesday leo contains an article on this subject, in which the names of CUATEAUBRIAN D, ROYER COLLARD, CANIM IR PERRIER, the Duke de BROGLIE, SEBASTIAN I, the elder DUPIN and HUMAN N, are pointed at in such a way, as to imply a belief that they are to be the new ministers. Lord HOLLAND'S motion relating to the pacification and final settlement of Greece came on last night. The Noble B:►aoN spoke at great length, and—in various passages of his speech—with considerable eloquence. All, however, availed nothing ; for the Noble Foreign Secretary, at the end of a speech which was any thing but an answer to that of Lord HoLLA N D—fi speech re markable for its flippant and crude uncourtesies—moved the previous question, and it was carried without a divi sion. In so much better order are some assemblies held by their Presidents, than others! Nevertheless, this de bate will be read with great interest by all those who • retain any sympathy for the people of Greece : and not withstanding the venal or arbitrary objections—both in and out of Parliament—which have been raised against the line of argument adopted by the Noble BARON, the best thanks of the country are certainly not leas due to him, for the spirit with which he has brought forward this matter before the country. Whatever the parliamentary fate of such motions may be, they seldom fail to operate as a salutary check on Ministers, and to prevent—or mitigate—some of the evils, against which the Govern ment drives honest men to remonstrate. Were it not that the length of the debates has so narrowed us in our room for remarks, we would reply to certain points set up in defence of that wavering and pusillanimous policy, which it has so often been our duty to expose. With regard, however, to the New Settlement of the Greek question containing " provisions, more favourable than had ever been dreamed of by Mr. CANNIwo him self," we must remind the Noble Dui and Isis col leagues that it was an immense point—u Done caa testify better than themselves—in the then state of the Cabinets, to obtain any terms for Greece at all : but as to .the ulterior intentions of that lamented Statesman, those who enjoyed his confidence could never doubt of these. He would never have designated the victory of Navarino " untoward," nor proposed to curtail the limits of the new power. As to the policy of Ministers during the Turco-Russian war, there is but one opinion among all enlightened and liberal men, from one end of Europe to the other. While we freely admit with Lord HOLLAND, that it would be a signal blessing to see Turkey added to the circle of civilisation, we must contend also that England was bound to prevent the degrading conditions imposed upon her : and this, we maintain, England might have done, by assuming only an armed neutral attitude. There are one or two sentences in the speech of the Noble BARON, that we could not read, without feeling mingled surprise and regret, that any- process of self adaptation to the dominion of our military ministers should have wrought already such a perceptible change in his hitherto vigorous and constitutional mind. Lord HOLLAND says :—" To the present government, how ever, I do feel a little objection, both from its com position and system. It is a system of govern ment uniformly foreign to the habits of the people of this country." Why, my Lord HOLLAND, is this the tame sentiment, with which you take your stand be side that martial and over-awing presence--instead of indignandy denouncing, as it becomes your station and consequence among the Peers of England—the entrust ment of civil power in the bands of a military chief? Is this the semi-acquiescent manner in which you speak of a system uniformly foreign to the habits of the people of this country ? Let us hope that the Noble BARON has conceded in this language more to the forms of courtesy, than he is prepared by any substantive act to ratify. Let as hope, at least, that—whatever the Noble BARON may have thus yielded to compliment- - be would not desert in a time of need, nor betray the cause of the people. A system, foreign to the habits of the people of this country, must not—will not—be tolerated. Of trios, who mod AGAINST llajestr midi do 'demos ol Davapsie no z ur vii Damao et Game lobos lbw" J I=l7 W. A. Ben. &keg *ITV " &SUPPLY being granted to his the people are redressed, Feb. 11. IWells, John Walthman, Alderman Wood, John. TILLIRS. Itoreptis of Blandford Daniel 011oons11. Imamon $ Ptistal mid Nblislisd toy Joss /dam, it Os Ilia.- Ommis Ne.l, FiCkfitSbeeirilitrie Bar. • ~~