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That a QUARTERLY GENERAL COURT of the said CO3ll'A NY will be held at their Rouse in Leadenhall-street, on WIDDESDAT, the 22d of March next, a:. Eleven &Clock in the Forenoon. AUTOMATONS, ANCIENT ARMOUR, GIANT, dm NOW OPEN, at the GOTHIC HALL, 7, pmr- MARKET, the following interesting Exhibition:, viz. The celebrated MUSICAL and other AUTOMATONS, displaying, in a great variety of SubjeCts, from the most elegant Human Fi gure, down to the smallest Birds and Insects, the astonishing powers of hledianism, by their wonderful imitations of animated Nacute! together with the choice collection of Ancient Armour, surrounding the HalL would refer hint to a Document then before the Flame.—Ordered to he printed. Mr. MANNING moped for a return of all the Lunatic Asy lums in this county, with an account . of the nnniber of inmates, disringui•htnit a., males from the females, up to the years 1825 and 1826 Inclusive.—Ordered. education or not? The Kildare-street Society was as sisted br Parliament, because it originally comprised persons of all religious persuasions, Catholics as well as Protestants; and many of V4e former continued to be members of it to this day. Two years ago a Petition was presented from the Irish Bishops, complaining of the system of education pursued. But was Parliament upon that reptesentation to have given up the Kildare. street Society altogether, whose system,''thoogh not ab solutely perfect, was yet operative formany and important purposes of education ? Was no attempt to be made in order to improve the system? The Irish Government took care to prevent prose lytism ; but they did not withdraw the grant from the Kildare street Association. They wished to Improve, but could not consent to destroy, a system which had met the approval of the Commis sioners, who declattd that they could not enter into a plan for de stroying any existing school, inasmuch as all the schools established were in many respects highly usefuL On the Motion of Sir CHARLES LONG, the Kilmainham and Chelsea Hospitals: Bill was read a third time and ordered to be engrossed. On the motion of Mr. H. DRUMMOND, the Scotch Assault and Battery Bill went through a Committee of the whole House, and the Report ordered to be received. Mr. S. RICE brought in a Bill for the effectual administration of Justice in Cities and Towns Corporate in Ireland.—Read a first time, ordered for a second reading on the sth of April, and in the interim to be printed. Mr. C. GRANT brought ip a Bill to regulate the Importation of Silk into this country.—Read a first time. Mr. BARING wished to know whether the Hon. Gentleman intended to explain the nature of this Bill? Mr. C. GRANT explained that it was his intention to do so ott the earliest opportunity. He wished the Bill to be engrossed before the Easter recess, and was sensible of the kindness of the liottse in allowing kiln to bring it iu at serearly a period of the business of the day. Ile had intended to explain the nature of this Hill last Thursday, but was prevented by the lateness of the hour at which the thou-e broke up. A Message from the Lords stated that thele_Lordshlßs had agreed to several Private Digs witlititkiatty aMeadmsais. • • Mr. M. A. TAYLOR presented a Flakiest from the Inhabitants of Sunderland against Slavery.—Ordered to be printed. A similar Petition was presented by gr. Limner, from 'Clip*. in Sfe.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. BELL presented a Petition to the same effect from the Congregation of the Protestant Dissenters of a Parish in Northam berland.—Ordered to be printed. Similar Petitions were presented from Knaresborough by Mr. ' Ttaatiar ; from a Parish in the County of Oxford, by Mr. Am nutter ;, trout Tewkesbury, by. Mr. Downeuvreza; andirons the City of Peterborough and its vicinity. by Lord hi:Lwow—The Pe titions were laid on the table, and ordered to be printed. Capt. WE M YSS Presented a Petition from the Cooney of Fife against any alteration in the Currency cif Scotland.—Referred to the Sekct Committee appointed to examine the Banking System of ScotLnd and Ireland. Similar Petitions were presented from Leith, by Mr. W. Dux- DAs; from Caper in Fife, by Mr. LINDSAY; from the Free holders of Elgin, from Detnbarton, by Mr. A. Caterseu.;and from the Royal Burgh of Dysart, by Sir R. .F s.—The .Petitions were laid on the table, and referred to the qplect Committee on the Banking System of Scotland and Ireland: • Admittance 2s. Children Is. Also, the surprising GIANT, Monsieur LOUIS, the tallest man who has visited this Kingdom since the days of O'Hatcx, and far superior in elegant Symmetry, Proportion, and Muscular Strength. Monsieur Louts (who is Twenty-lee Years of Age, possessing all the polite and agreeable manners of his countrymen), will gratify his Visitors with a sight of his favourite Horse " Nonpareil," being the smallest in the World. That a GRNERAL COURT of the said COMPANY will be held at their House, in Leadenhall-street, on Witoussoar,the 12th April next, from Nine o'Cloek in the morning until Six in the evening, for the ELECTION of SIX DIRECTORS of the said COMPANY for Four Years Admittance Is. Mr. 3, RICE explained rather inaudibly. As we understood him, he did not object to the usual grant for the support of the establishment. He only opposed an additional grant. And that the LIST of the MEMBERS of the said COM PANY will be ready to be delivered ai this House on Tuxsoar. the 28th March next. ESTABLISHED MEDICINES. NEWBERY and SONS, Proprietors or Dr. IV • and other valuable Medicines, caution the Public against Counterfeit% and acquaint them, that none but the genuine an sold at their Warehouse, No. 45, in St. Paui's Church Yard, the third house from Cheapdde. Mr.GOULBURN was therefore to understand that the Hon. Gentleman was prepared to allow the sums neces sary.for the Kildare-street Society, and the Society for Discountenancing Vice. If such wiln.)t the Hen. Gentle. man's meaning. he confessed himself unable to under rand his proposition. The Lord Li:utenant, had com manded him (Mr.Goulburn) to apply to thoserlientlernen who were best calculated to pronounce upon the educa tion of Ireland ; and if any others had been appointed Commissioners, he kites! not hove he could reply_to the objections which would certainly be made by the Hon. Gentleman. The Government was for supporting the existing schools, until better could be provided; but the Hon. Gentleman was for destroying those schools at once, and then seeking out others to substitute for them. Sure he was, that if anxious for a successful ilsue to their endeavours for public improvement, they couA not more effectually attain their object than by sustain ing the system of education as it-stood at present. The Hon. Member said he only objected to the increase of the grant; now he (Mr. Goulburn) would shew that there was, in fact, no real increase at all ; it was merely an apparent increase. In the vote of last Session, he had declined to ask Parliament for an additional grant, in the absence of theßeport of the Commissioners dt Education; and as that Report was delayed till after the Committee of Supply had closed, no more than 20,0001. was voted. It was therefore necessary to supply the deficiency .of that vote, and in fact the expenditure of the present year did not exceed that of the former. As to that part of the grant which was to be given for the establish ment of new schools, he agreed with the Hon. Geotre man, and was willing to confine the vote to the amount necessary for the society, independently of the sum de. signed by the new schools. For the latter purpose ;OWL might be placed at the disposal of the Lord Lientenant. Whatever the Hon. Gentleman might think of the Kildare street Society, he could not think that the House would, by withdrawing his grant, stig matize them as departing from the principles on which they had set out, 6r deprive the country of the benefit. arising from a system of education which was at least in part effective. In reference to the observaticrns which had bedu made upon the Society for Discountenancing Vice, lie' deprecated all controversy and hostility of feeling ; but'he thought it wrong that such strong ter ins should have been employed in animadverting upon the conduct of highly respectable characters, to whom he hoped the House would give due credit for their zeal in serving the interests of their country. If indeed they' had originally published some thing:which appeared absurd, it was hard to make that publication the subject of re prehension at present. Was the Hon. Gentleman who made the objection so little of an Irishman as not 'to know that expressions might frequently be employed in Ireland which would not be admissible in 11.15 - JOSEPH DIRT, Secreeary. EAST 11rDlit HOUSE, March 8,182 b. rpuE COURT of DIRECTORS of the UNITED COMPANY of MERCHAATS of ENGLAND trading to the EMT LYME 4 do hereky gine Nolke, s. 41. Dr. James's Powder . 2 9 12 in a Bottle . . 24 0 —6in a Family Bei . 24 0 Dalby's Carminative . 1 9 Collins. Cephalic Snuff 1 Mr. Speuce's Dentifrice 4 0 _ 1. d. Dr. Steer% Orstlehloc . 2 Camqmile Drops . 1 9 Convulsion Oil . 2 6 I— Paregoric Lozenges 1 14 Bilious Pith (Newbcry's) 9 9 Essence of Coltsfoot . 3 6 will be ascertained by the name ed in the stamp. f Dr. Hooper's Pills . 1 14 repute. On taking six, the stamps That at the QUARTERLY GENERAL COURT of the said COMPANY, appointed to be held at their House, in Lea drnhall street, on WIDSESDAY, the nd Instant, at Eleven o'Clock in the Forenoon, a motion will be made—" That Sir JAMaI En " wasu COLIIIROOIC; Ban. late of the Bengal Civil Establishment, " be permitted to return to the service, under the provisions of " the Act of the 55d Geo. 111. cap. 52, sec. 70, with the rank which he held when he quitted Bengal, agreeably to the Act of " the 5.3 d Gen. 111. cap. 155, sec. 85." The authenticity of the above of " F. Newbery" being engrave Dr. Solander's Tea . . 2 9 And every other Medicine of we allowed. . . PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, MAIM' 10. THE GARDNER 'MIRAGE. The further hearing of this case was resumed this morning. Mr. T 1121•11; on the part of Mr. Jadies, commented, on the evi dence adduced on the other side. The several medical witnesses examined had given it as their opinion that the usual :period of gestation was forty weeks, or 280 days, and that nature deviated little or nothing beyond this time. In support of this position, be believed, the opinion of Dr. Hunter was given, grounded on the testimony of spinsters, or unmarried women, who, in the violence of their passions, had fallen into error and become pregnant, having only had one connection with man. Now the -reasoning of the Doctor on this point was not at an conclusive, and by no means sa tisfactory ; for he said that in many instances, and be could be certain to twenty of them, that the spinsters who had consulted hip had , spoken the truth, as he considered it was their interest to do. interest be could not comprehend—nor was it Certain that theylkil JOSEPH DART, Secretary. EAST INDIA HOUSE, March 18, 1826. THE COURT' of DIRECTORS of the UNITED COMPANY of MERCHANTS o f ENGLAND trading to Me EAST INDIES, do hereby give Notice, • JURILS IN INDIA BILL. Mr. WYNN moved the Second reading of the Juries in India Mr. HUME said he was glad the Rght Htm. Gen tlermin had introduced this measure, but he thought it did not go far enough. He thought the natives ought to be included in the empannelling of Juries where their interests were concerned. This had been done in Ceylon, and it had the effect of raising the That the QUARTERLY GENERAL COURT of the said COMPANY appointed to be held at their House, in LeadenhaU street, on WlDNestrAynext, the 22d Instant, is made Special, for the purpose of laying before the Proprietors, Draft of a Bill now before Parliament, entituled- 14 A Bill, to suspend the Provisions aof an Act of his late Majesty, respecting the appointment of " Writers in the service of the East India Company, and to autho " riae the payment of the allowances of the Civil and Military " Officers of the said Company, dying while absent from India." JOSEPH DART Secretary. -natives in their own opinions, and making their conduct propnr tionably better. Mr. WYNN said that the natives were included in the Bill. He was most happy in bearing testimony, upon all the information he could pin, as to the good effect of the measures taken in Ceylon by Sk Alex. Johnson, to introduce the British system of judicature. He trusted this would be but a be ginning which would end in raising the character .of the natives, and making them worthy of being entrusted with the discharge of all public moral duties. Mr. HUME said that the measure only applied to some few hundred dionsimds, while silty or seventy - millions of natives were entitled to be placed in a similar condition. He wished to ink the Right Hon. Gentleman whether he was aware that the repoetin of law proceedings in Bombay had been prohibited? Mr. WYNN said that be could not enter into any discussion upon tilts topic; but he understood that there had only been cout• plaints of the misrepresentation of the proceedings of the Caserta The Bill was then read a third time, and ordered to le commit ted on Thursday. spoken the truth, because women would not like to confess 'their own profligacy, by admitting that they had been criminal with mere than one man, or more than once. And even taking it for granted that these spinsters spoke truly, it did not amount to more ,than that 20 women bad gone the general period of gestation, being 2410 days; but %did not follow that cases of protracted ges tation did not occur. It bad been proved that women bad gone forty-four weeks, and cases of 300 days had more frequently oc curred. One of Doctors, in his examination, bad tardily ad mitted, that there were medical hooks regarded, as authorities on this subject by the Faculty; but be added, thit Very Ism apw wrote good books—(Laugbter)—that into of great, expeeimms pad great names never wrote good books—books were only men of no practice. Now if the Doctor's opinion was he ought to be a judge in his own profession, books wow slay at aIL He (the Learned Counsel) had, in the coarse Ids attention to the subject, consulted a great number of medical Meeks, of whltb there were thousands newly issuing [tom the press, and it was melancholy to learn that they were no authority on the subjects treated of. One of the medical witnesses had said that a singular ease had wearied r hispractice. that of, a poor woman who had appplied to him,stating Isersellto.be in a state of pregnancy; but he assured her she was mistaken. The woman, however, con sidering herself the best judge on the subject, insisted that sh e was not only pregnant, but told the very day on which she should be con lined. The Doctor felt a little curiosity on the subject, and sent a per son on that day, when it was proved that she was delivered as she had predicted. lhis only proved that the woman was right and the Doctor wrong, and he believed that more cases occurred where Doctors were wrong than right. The Learned Gentleman coon - mented on the evidence till twelve o'clock, when the Committee rose.—Further hearing adjourned till Thursday. _ _ _ ACLERGYMAN, Married, Beneficed, and Resid ing a convenient distance from London, his Pupils limited to Rs, would be glad -to FILL A VACANCY with a Gentle man's son, whose Health or Education may require more than usual attention. Letters to be directed to the Rev. IL S. Messrs. Harding and Lepard's, Booksellers, 4, Pall-mall Bast, Louden. CHILBLAINS, RHEUMATISM, SPRAINS,&c. TIUTLER'S CAJEPUT OPODELDOC—Cajepat Oil, which is the basis of this Opodeldoe, has been long esteemed on the Continent, as a remedy for Chronic Rheumatism, Spasmodic Affections, Chilblains, Palsy, Stiffness and Enlargement of tie Joints, Sprains Bruises, and Deafness ; and the experience of lite years, in England, proves that it merits the high character given of it by the most eminent in tie profession, in those obstinate complaints. Being combined in the form of Opodeldoe, it is ren dered more penetrating, and conseqttently mach more eficatiousas an external application. Robbed upon the shin, by means of flannel, or the warm hand, it allays morbid irritation of nerves, invigorates the absorbents, and accelerates the circulation. Sold in Bottles, at ls. I id. and 2s. 9d. by Butlers, Chemists, 4, Cheapside, corner of St. Paul's; and 54. Sack ville-atreet, Dublin ; Savory and Co. 136, New Bond-street, and 220, Regent-street; and by the principal Medicine Venders throughout the United King dom. Of whom also may be bad, Butler's Chilblain Cerate, an ex cellent Remedy for Chilblains when broken; used also in Scalds, Burns, &c. • SUPPLY.. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for the House going into a Committee of Supply. Mr. BA NKES moved, that the Estimate of the British Museum be referred to the Committee. - . Mr. CLATTRA, from the Treasury, presented an Account of the number of Notes Stamped for Private Bankers In Ireland since 1790r-Laid on the table. Mr. Fazact.t., from the East India Dock Company, presented an Account of the yearly Receipts and Disbursements of that Company.—Laid on the table. Mr. Jounson, from the Office of Chief Secretary for Ireland, presented Copies of Certificates signed by the Lord Chancellor in cases of Compensation.—Laid on the :aisle. _ _ _ country ? It was by no means fair at this period of time to saddle upon them some hasty and inconsiderable words of old date, when they had acted throughout with purity of principle, and had extended their care from the m. tubers of the Established Church, 1, r %%horn alone it was at first designed, to those of other com munions. To estimate fairly the state of education in Ireland, it would be proper to compare its present, condition with that in which it stood before the existence of the society. He was himself convinced that great advantages had resulted to the country, and upon that conviction he acted, as conceiving that it would not serve the views of Parliament to let down► the Society. Many Catholic Bishops were adverse to the attendance of Catholic children at the Misfire street Schools; but be was assured that one Bishop bad given per mission for their attendance it those schools, under cfrcumstaates ri Be careful to ask for Butler's Cajepttt Opodeldoc. Messrs. PLUM'S* and &mum WOSTLIT and others from the Commons, brought up the Small Tithes Bill and several Private Bills, which were read a first time. Earl ROSSLYN presented several Petitions from the County of Fife, the Royal Burghs of Kirkcaldy, Dysart, and Cupar, and from the Corporation of the Trinity House of Leith, against any altera tion in the Banking System—Laid on the table. The Earl of LAUDERDALE presented a similar Petition from Dunbar.—Laid on the table. The Duke of MONTROSE presented Petitions to the same effect from Gentlemen, Noblemen, and Clergy of the County of Dumbarton, from the 'rovost and Council of Glasgow, and from the Merchants of that town.—Laid on the table. _ _ . which would escite an exclamation of astonishment from the Hon. Member opposite. A similar Petition was also presented by the Duke of AsHot from Sir David Moncrieff and other Members of the Farming So ciety of Perth.—Laid on the table. Earls FITZWILLIAM and ROSSLYN presented Petitions —the one from Peterborough, praying fur the abolition of Slavery, l and the other from the Borough of Cupar.—Lald on the table. Similar Petitions were presented by Lo-d CA LTHORPE from a parish in Yorkshire, from Clapham, and from Sperfcer-place Chapel, Goswell-street Road, from Shipnell, in Shropshire, and from Hendon, in die county of Wilts.—Laid on the table. Earl GROSVENOR presented a Petition from Paddington, is the county of Lancaster, praying foe the repeal of the Corn Laws. The Army and Marine Mutiny Bills were read s third tiine• and passel—Adjourned. PETER FROST; OR, TIIR POLAR LINGUIST. idraw a long bow is a Mariner's glory, rTeat b, to narrate a most marvellous story. A jolly lick Tar; Who all dangers bad shar'd With brave Captain Parry, a fact thus declaid. Ice-bound during winter, and little to do, We polish'd our Boat, and went forth to pursue Amusement on shore; but the frost so intense, Induced us to build a snug hut for defence: Now mind me—not long were we hooted, when we found That all our jaw-tackle bad run fast aground. Our words were all froze in the air! 'tis no joke, And not a voice heard, although every man spoke. 'Twas strange, but nut knowing what then wasshe matter, We thought Polar wizards set spell on our clatter, So bastad on board. Well, six months after that, The very same but in some Esquimau: sat, On shore as we stroll'd; and a thaw just began, When forth, talking English, they presently ran! [lacking, " You've been to the Stealth," they said, " judgment not Your Boors are illunsin'd by Weetunes.Jer Bt AMlte." These words by the natives were often repeated, When enterinz the hut, our amaze was completed: Por, thawed tt:to utterance; we heard the full flow Of sentaucts spoken there six mouths ago! We breath'd not a syllable, tongue-tied with awe, A le:uteri Polur linguist to find'in the thaw; And ott 1:1 the air, while the voices were clacking, The di.eolvir.g words pronotac'd" Wales:es BLACKIIIO.I. The Esquimau: caught thus our language, sad may Repeat " W. &u BLACKING." to Time's latest day, NVlen some future Parry will guess, from the whole, • That Waltman was known from the South to North Pole! This Easy Shining and Brilliant BLACKING Prepared by ft;e,, 30, STRAND, London; An.l solii in cony Town in the kingdom. LI6LLID in Bottles, 6d. lod. 12d. and IQ. each. Aim PASTE BLACKING, in Tots, 6d. 12.1. and led. eaeb. A Shilling P.lt of l'a,te is equal to Four ls. Bottles of Liquid. Kr Ask for WARR.EN's Mackin.' • HOUSE OF COMMON& A Person from the Treasury presented several Papers and Accounts relating to the Income and Ependiture of that Esta. blishniesit.—Laid on she table. Mr. ASTELL moved- the second reading of the Bill for en larging the power of the Commissioners appointed to settle the debts of the Nabob of Arcot. On the motion of Mr. FITZGERALD, the Colonial Steam Navigation Company's Will was read a second time and committed. Mr. Alderman lIETGATE moved for a return of all ships, whether Foreign or English, that had entered the Port of London, • distinguishing the Foreign from the English, from the year 1823 to 1825.-Ordered. ' Tile Hon. Manses also moved for a similar return from the Port of Liverpool.—Ordered. Mr. G RAT I'AN presented* Petition front the Tobacco Manu facturers of the City of Dublin, praying for a further reduction in the duty on Tobacco.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. M. FITZGERALD presented a Petition from a Gentle man of the name of Xmas 'decimal& Agent to the Catholic. Association in Dublin, against Ale distribution of the money in tended for the Education of then'oor in Isclaoda-aQulered to be_ rriuteci. Mr. HUME presented a Pes/tion frost the Ship Owners and ethers of. Arbroath, complaining 8f the musagement generally of the Northern I..iglits on the Bell Ruck. The LORD ADVOCATE assured the H o n.. m em b e r f or Abe:lcm, that it he wanted any idoentation oft*, subject, he Mr. S. RICE opposed the question for the Speaker leaving the Chair, bkause it was understood that the Education Votes were to be submitted in the Commit tee. These large sums had been annually voted in the teeth of the recommendations of the Commission ap pointed to inquire into the subj:ct. He particularly objected to the vote of 9,0001. to the Society for Dis countenancing Vice. This was expending the money of the State upon duties which properly belonged to the Church; and this money they were called upon to grant w!len support to general education was refused. He also objected to any augmentation of the grant to the Kildare-street Society. That Society claimed the merit of educating 100,000 persons ; whereas the offi cial documents proved that there had been only 54,000 individuals educated. He contended that these schools were made palatable to the Protestants. and repulsive to the Catholics, because, upon the testimony of the Archbishop of Dublin, they had seen that the reading of the Bible had that effect. The consequence of pur suing such a system would be, that the education of Protestants would henceforward be more exclusively Protestant than it had ever been before, _as would that of the Catholics become every day more exclusively Catholic.. Of 491,000 persons educated oat their own expense in Leland, 377,000 were Catholics. If it were inquired what end was served by the association of persons in early life, when the law would subsequently work a separation between them, he would ask, were they to legislate with a view to the perpetuation of these laws? Should they not rather evince by their measures, that however much the laws tended to divide the people, they at least were not accessaties to their enactment. He would have whatever sums were grained for the purposes of education placed, in the hands of responsible persons, and not left to the discretion of any private snciety. The Right Hon. Secretary for Ireland hohoped would hot decline to accep t what must be considered a most agreeable trust. The amendment' which he would move embraced the sentiments expressed by the Commissioners of Education in their fourteenth Report, in the year 1806; and also those 'expressed by Doctor Stuart, the late Primate of all Ireland, by the late Archbishop of Cashel, and by the Right Reverend Doctor Elrington, now Bishop of Killaloe, and lately Provost of Trinity College, Dublin. He therefore moved, as an Amendment, " That the House concurred in the opinions of the Commissioners and Bishops, that no general plan of education could be available unless it were deirty and explicitly understood and avowed that no attempt would be made to disturb the principles of any religious sect?' Mr. GOULBURN would think it his duty to confine 'himself to certain topics, and not to follow the Hon. Gentleman through all the reasonings which be hid connected with the subject. He would not argue with him whether • the Catholics o Ireland read the Bible - cr not, or whether they were in principle friendly or ad verse to the progress of education. On these subjects there were-TA:4Rn opinions, but they were qu to irrele: sant to the present subj.ce. The real question wa. Ahether the Iskt firmament had dant the best ft; ,- Mr. FRANK LAND LEWIS, after a few preliminary• observations, said, that the Kildare-s ieet Association, in stating the numbers. had set them down, not as those actually in course of education by them, but as appli cants on their rods; the latter were nearly double the number of the former, one being 100,000, the other be ing only 60,000. He did not think this a good mrde of setting down the numbers; but there was at all events no intentional deceit in it. Whatever arrangenients on the subject of education the wisdom of Parliament might suggest, they would be done without the slightest dii parageluent to the individuals composing the Kildaie street Association. He wished well to a plan which, as one of the Commissioners, he had contributed to esta- WWI, and• uould vote for a sum to be applied to the maintenance of the schools; but it did not appear to him, on reference to the account for 1824, that so small a bum as 22 ; 0001. would be sufcient to keep them up. Much as he desired to see a system of public educatton adopted, which should ha►e general approbation, he could never agree to any system that did not initigle with it religions instruction. As to the rules 01 the Kildare-street Society, they never zooid be eat-lied into effect in' Ireland. The Commissioned, whose Reiort bad •been spoken of, recommended that the Human Catholic children should not have any books put into - their hands At these schools, that taught them contkmpt ,or dislike for that religion. One of the rules to which he had alluded, enjoined that every schoolmaster should be of the Established Church, .and that the Catechi►m should be taught in the school over which he presided. Now, whether these rules were carried strictly into exc.. cotion he could not say, but they were clearly incum pattble with the principles of the Roman Cathodic re ligion. The children were directed to read 'the Holy &;joures wit:10111 note or comment, which was airs