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done, het honour and dignity being then secured anct vindicated, the deemed ail other points Of so little importance, that she was content to refer the whole to arbitration. The question of residence had been brought on early in the negotiations. Had the Queen . left the country without the matter of charge being inquired into—without bringing forward evidence to rebut the accusations -urged against her, of which she had plenty to produce, her conduct might have been misconstrued. This being the case, the first question was, on the propriety- of restoring her mane to the Liturgy ? He trusted the House would allew him to do his duty as a Member of Parlia ?Titor while speaking on this subject, and in that character he would say, that be saw features of the greatest importance connected with the Liturgy.— An arrangement on this subject might avert the im pending inquiry ; for he might venture to say, speak from his own private knowledge--from the corn -.iunications that he had had with others—from what ..c knew to be the sense of a great part of the House, -uld froth what was the )ease of a great, and he might sal of an overwhelming majority out of doors, that concession on this point would make the success of the negotiations in almost every other absolutely certain. Were this only conceded, all other differ-' ences would be done away. He felt justified in as suring the House, as far as he could assure them of anything on his own private authority, that that one word, the Liturgy, pronounced in an amicable tone on the other side of the House, no difficulties would cA ist, no obstacle would remain in the way of the :accommodation of all that now agitated the country. Of this he had no more hesitation in affirming, than I.t had in declaring that he at that moment was s:anding there. Wishing to excite no party feelings, trash n to depress all factious spirit on this occasion, Ire would throw no blame on any one, not even on those Ministers to whom he was, he might say, ha- Mtually opposed; but he could not refrain from ex pressing his deep regret at the omission of her Ma jcstv's 'same in the Liturgy. He would endeavour to shew that this course might not to have been taken: and, :hewing that this ought not to have been done-, he thought he should in effect shew that it might easily be undone. The step which had been thought expedient with respect to the Liturgy was a slip. Its legality might be questioned, and, without impeaching the Crown, it might be well for those who had advised the Crown on that occasion, to undo as act so hastily and uti*arily adopted. He would nJw state why he thought the step which had been t a k e n was illegal. Some very learned men (among them Dr. Johnson) contended tharno change could be legally made in the Litany, without the consent of that body called the Convocation, who were only known to the country by their name, and by their constant adjouroments, rather than by any acts hich they lore in the habit of performing.— The Prayer-book, however, which regulated the Ca nons of the Church, had been established by Act of Parliament. The Act stated, " That with respect to a;1 Prayer-books, Litanies, and Collects, which in any way related to the King, Queen, or Royal Progeny, the proper Authorities were," to do what ? To use their own discretion in altering them ? To chop and change and twist about as they should think fit ? No, but " to alter the names from time to time, and change them so as to fit the present occasion." What would this seem to mean to a plain understanding ? hy, it would seem to mean, that if George should s'tcceed to Ann, or Caroline to Charlotte, that the sl woe of Caroline should be substituted for that of Charlotte, that of George for Ann. If the House were content with - the difficulties into which they had Veen brought--if they wished to perpetuate them, eacn, in Ctoo's name, let them criticise the wording this Act, and, by patting on it some far-fetched overstrained construction, , twist its words from that plain meaning which he supposed to belong to them. He held it to be no answer whatever to the objection of 112 r Majesty, to say that the Queen was prayed for girder the name of " the rest of the Royal Family." Ir. .1 conscientious or spiritual view this might be enough, but this did not remove the difficulty.— Though he was far from undervaluing the prayers of the Church in any form, he did not think this ought in sitisfy her Majesty. Supposing (for argument's sake) the Act which had taken place, from the strained in terpretation given to the law, should be proved not to :he legal, it would follow as a matter of course t!. Ht the Crown had not been right in performing it. With the personal feelings of the Sovereign he had nothing to do--he could not have on this occasion. Woe to the man who should bring them into this de bate. They only knew the King as King, they knew nothing of him as a man—they only knew him as a king acting by the advice of his Ministers. Saying this, he spoke the language of the Constitution ; and supposing that what had been done was not right, he only supposed his Majesty's Ministers to have been wrong. He was afraid that it would not do to use the healing language of the Right Hon. Gentleman, who had said, that however the step taken with re !Fect to the Liturgy might operate prospectively, it could have no effect retrospectively, so as to throw a stigma on the Queen. He, however, must contend that it could not fail of having this effect. Every thing went to degrade her Majesty that tended to re move herfrom that station to which she was entitled, contrary to the old established constitutional practice hear).• Be it l ega l or not t h at t h e Q ueen should be prayed for by name, as had been usual in the cast of former Queens, and as bad been done. in the case of Princess, till by the late demise of the Crown she had become Queen, the removal or omis sion of her name then could only be viewed as a stigma, and looked upon 4 as a degradation. But the precedent estAblibhed in the time of George L'was, it seemed, to b e brought forward to satisfy her Ma ;"AY that she was not d egra d ed by the omission of ~er name, and to bolster up the flimsy argument, that ;: was of no importance whether she was prayed I . r tinder the name of " The Queen," or under that " (sr the rest of the Royal Family "—(Hear, hear).— Ctuid nothing but this be suggested to soothe the ve.ent queen ? Without wishing to rake up the :! . 2i of a departed Princess, he would say that this !he greatest degradation that could possibly be to her present Majesty. But the Duke of it was said, was not prayed for by name. In • • ' •;r..t place, it was tun so very usual for •the heir iiTtive to be prayed for by name. But if in • beiag the' heir presumptive, the Duke of II.; was apparent, still the cases would be different. 'Thequeen vets the Consort olthe ~. ~ • • .. . . . . • • • ~ . . • ~ tely f____..iitg t__ ielitteti aeriiiitl;' King, and possesielii by la w ptivileges that li e M• bt dictated by a se - tee eof ihe Clati he 14 ", —toviu-I,u •" ." was. that' he seemed to think there was a prelitnieery stip In ) almost call prerogatives, to shelter, * cover, and pro - jest —a duty which forbade him to listisii 'to 11l the twit her as the first fhvbtirite in . the realth. She en-. claims of party, of feeling, pr to any father :claims joyed priVileges abineall other women. In the eye which camein competition iett hit,4flreur leettrY r -of the law, the was the s'ac . .. kto which the Nation From these . frielids- - -,frops . iile goose . must look for a continuance of the Royal line— should expect the c sanctiona th g eiontetn t (Hear, hear, hear). If Gentlemen would do him 'the which he would feel for hittiself, If he did SW advise.. honour to listen to his presenfargument, they would her Majesty nd that he was not speaking of the present King and her own. i Queen, but of any King and Queen of England. What, , tomn 2 end e at te io rest ns, s' w al hi th ch Ge i g t h Wa til s e hi euggeMi"s' s province give tO er. was this ; that if what . had been done was her, might subject him ro the he urged • • • justified in-the - ,of - . fi ueen,tl ;- - the hawk of 111 . inisters; (hat wotdd remove all dillicultiesi and a! the sime time be accompanied with. Ito sacrifice .e(tttle: ak in. eiier4 he.- a n stta the the sr la r w ow onn..the"s'ulh, had als"jteii chic mialitvq • ll34 t , taken by /blisters was lion of the country. iti.t izt d o b f th t e he LLo a i ray . , But the the e!mt . sit flidjhe law y been so u .1 411 •2: 1 describedtCmsiatbuY ... '..04 d.' i thie s Leargecl Gentleman, - Govt , toment must hai.e inserted the according to thehest of.hts judirthent . ~, :tor ; name as a matter qf CeVite. No hesitation bad ever been shewn did I br Ministers ao to tho• legal rights a the qui' They had termed her the Gime° Consort of the rtahn ; and elh he had i-im. -.. ~: . i sait' distincdy stated that hr ' call the att.:— .- - case the present it would t. justified in that of any other. The fits! danger to which a State could be exposed was the danger of a cieil war. To save the nation from such a calamity, it had bee,: the care of our ancestors to guard against a disputed succession by every means their wisdom could sug gest. The greatest care was taken not only that no spurious offspring should be imposed upon the na tion, but that no taint should attach to the Royal blood was a cardinal point of our law. Now,, he called on the House to look at what the present Mi nisters had done. They had done that which stig- 1 matized and degraded the Queen, and which, not withstanding the precautionary laws to which he had alluded, might, under other circumstances, have led to a disputed succession. The Queen, living away from the King, might in the present case be supposed, in the ordinary' course of nature, unlikely to have any offspring ; but he wished to know, if the steps now taken might be resorted to against a Queen fifty-two years of age, living in separation from her husband, why the same proceedings might not be had, against a Queen of twenty-two, living with, her husband s and great with child ? To him it appeared, that in despite of all former Jaws, the King had it in his power to throw the stain'of ille gitimacy on a child who might be born one month after such degradation was heaped upon its ano ther. lie thought the step that had been taken with respect to the Liturgy was improper, and that the sooner the House got rid of it the better—(fieor 1). He was now told that the Queen ought to waive this point at the request of Parliament, because this con cession would be useful. to the country. But he con— tended that it was no charge against the Law Offi cers of her Majesty that they bad not advised her to give up in this instance. The point in question was nothing fbr the Kiel; to concede—it was everything to her Majesty.. It -would be no sacr i fi ce on t h e part of the King, but. she could not give way withoUt. submitting to be degraded on every Sunday through- . out the year !--,-(Hear, `)leer).—The Hon. G ent l eman near him said this would not reach foreign parts.;, but was it nothing that she was to be degraded titi' every Sunday in every perish, in England ?—(Hear). But he could see no good reason against restoring her to that which of right ought to be caricedesii and which she had done nothing to forfeit. To do this now would, in his opinion, be the most politic; and expedient course that could be adopted. He should now shew how highly the prayers of the Church were formerly valued by our ancestors ; lie would go back to the in cunabula gentle to explain this fact, and then it would appear how far Ministers were justified in this act of degradation. Here the Learned Gentleman referred to the proposal made in the reign of Queen Anne, to the Electress Sophia, of Hanover to come over to -England, and assuree the state to which she was entitled, when that•illus trious personage declined coming, and said .the con sidered the prayers of the Church of England as equi 'valeta for the sacrifice she made in not corning °vet t , In fact, these prayers were held to be a recognition of the right of the exalted Personage. Far be• it from him to throw out the slightest imputation on, the Sovereign, who, on no occasion, should ever be treated like a private individual. He considered his Ministers responsible for every act of his; avid upon Ministers alone he threw all the blame belonging to these transactions. Therefore no man should ever bring forward the private feelings of the -King on this occasion ; and no one , should, say that the King 's, feelings w ou ld b e h urt b y t h e proceeding that he recommended. His proposition was, to -carry an Address to the foot of the Throne, for the restora tion of the Queen's name in the Liturgy. Why thoeld Ministers be - afraid to carry this Address? Let them not fear that any such act of justice would lead to their discountenance by the King, for he was too noble to feel any resentment towards them for what they should do on such an occasion ; and-if they. should be displaced fur such an act, let them not be afraid that it would cause the loss of their places ; for after such a generous act, he wished to see the met; who would be so rash or presumptuous as to take then places from which they wee removed, for-an honest and conscientious discharge of their duty !—( Hear). What he said was this,, and he called upon any man in the House to controvert it—that if, complying with the wishes of the House of Commons, any set of Mi nisters were to lose their :places, he should like to see the man that would accept power, after they had re fused to comply with these wishes !—(Hear,Aear).,--, He would fain hope that the House had got. to the close of those preliminary discussions i and that assyf further agitation of it should take Ace, - duly %ich* view to a conclusive adjustment. He fervently praated that this was the last time that any preliminary busi ness would be discussed. He entreated the House to consider how the matter stood at that crisis.' The House was going on from day to day revolving this most unpleasant subject, and nothing final was doing —while out of doors great discontent was,prevailing ; a factious disposition, in preparation to take adv.ao. cage of anythi ng that might take place—and i great and enormounservernon likely to be made of their proceeaings. All these considerations strongly urged him to wish for a final close of all prelims nary agitations, followed by a complete adjustmen4 4 In his life he never felt so much pain as during the, whole of this proceeding. His were duties of - a most delicate and painful character. He owed a duty. to those persons with whom be was in the habit of act-, ing, and from whose opinions be departed with great reluctance—he owed a great duty to the Public at large—but he owed a paramount duty to what he considered the best interests of the country—its ho nour—its peace—its morality ! He bad determined . to act under the sacred sense of that duty, coupled with another still as delicate, and which, to a profes sional man, was the most sacred of all—namely, the duty which he owed to the client whom he served. To the friends whose opinions he had always re garded with respect and approbation, he appealed kr a candid inteipretatien of that conduCt whklewas ugh, . 4 notinow, or who did not understand his Motives. Nor did be mean, in saying this, to assume any.com pliment to himself. -:-No :he could not expect praise 'for doing that, which, if he omitted to perform, he , would act the part of the meanest of traitors to the .Mistiess whom lie served—( Hear, hear).—lf any one was of opinion that the reverse of this conduct•would have been wise—he dissented from their notions of wisdom. If any thought that an opposite conduct was more respectable—he desired none of their re spect. If any thought that an opposite conduct w:h more popular-.-they libelled the people ; he did not fear 'that his motives would not be properly esti mated, at least by the respectable part of the people; and at. all events he wits secured against any vicissitude. of opinion in the consciousness of having acted rightly. He should then sit down with declaring, that his ad vice to her Majesty would be such as tended, in the best. manner, according to his judgment, to serve her interests—the interests of the country at large; al. -. 'ugh- his advice might bring him under partial. reprehension — (H er ,, `tear, heal- ) . - •. Lord CASTLEREAGII -and .auother Honourable 'Member rose at the same moment, but the general calls of the House induced the Noble Lord to remain on his legs. He began by stating to th e House, that with a sulEilent sense of his inability to claim their attention at that stage of the deliberation, particu larly after the speech of the Hon. and Lea rne d . Gen tleman who had just sat do wn, be bad resolved to offer himself to their notice at that partiCular moment, from a belief that, under"- the peculiar. relatiOnV,in. which he stood towards the lion. andisearaid *Mem:- ber with regard _ to the prfeni quesiten, he (Lord Castlereagh) was called- upon to address the Houte; in reference to the topics which had been introduced by that Han. and Learriet! Gentleman. , (Here the Noble Lord, observing that Mr. Brougham bad. quitted.hls place, stated to the House 'that, frOm the nettlee of the remarks he had to offer, it Waddle prop( r for him to sus pend his observations until the return of the Hon. Member. The Noble Lord aCegrdingly eat dowel After a short interval, during which there was a complete •sespension of business, f", blf." TI.ER MIRY rose in his place and Stated, that his Hon. • .d' Learned Friend had withdrawn to recover himself arttr his speech, and would be in in a few minutes. Lord CAS'ILER'EA MI said, be felt it to be his duty to wait the return of the Hon. and Learned Gentlemen. After the lapse of a few minutes, • Lord CASTLERF.AGII rose, and 'observed, tilt the pe culiarity of th e material s w hi c h f orme d t h e su bj ect of the Hen. 1 and Learned Gentleman's speech made .it tinpossi!de for him (Lord Castieytagh) to discuss them with ,the advantag e which he vxpected, end to obtain which he h a d reso l ve d to o ffer him self at that particular stage, without the presence of the lion. and Learned Gentleman. Ise therefore begged the 'House would give him leave 'to reserve himself for a later, part of the t, when It might be in his poker to address them under the doe, unes antes which he th oug ht , necessary to the , effect of his Observatione.—(Henr.) ' After some minutes had elapsed in agitated expietidiiis . - 1 _ds:MARTIN, of Wety, addreseedtba Rouse ( i tem thel' pllery. Except he had perceived that the Rouse was totally f unoccupied he should not hav e v en t ure d to.sayal few worth o a Matte . of such grave irpportance—tLeuefiter.4:—lf, herrecei, iimethiog like argument should fall from so bumble an indive: • as himself, it would serve to show bow much more might law from others against the proposition of the Bon. and ;crLseei Gentleman, that tier Majesty's name should be re in the Liturgy.. There was one ansvrer which he thought was decisive on the subject,. This answer was, that the intro-. .duction of her Majesty's name into the Liturgy would be a total departure from the 'agreentent--4./fear, hcur, hear ! j—ror the agreement orpeessly - . stated, that his Majesty was not to be called ups to retract, or retrace any step which he had taken, net . her Majesty tuadmit 'anything. He therefore asked, whe ther it would tioa - be. - not•ooly a retraction In the letter, but in substance an-admission that his Majesty s h ou ld d o t h at which no man Could call upon a gentletnan. to de ?—that was to sub scribe a declaration that he had been a calumniator ! Fer on what principle did the Honourable and Learned Gentleman de mand the restoration of the Queeffs name in the Liturgy; but that her Majesty had- been calumniated? Ile shicerely hoped that the charger laid before the Clouse might turn out to be un founded ; but it would be to depart from the basis off the nego tiation, if,.after'bls Majesty had declared that there was matter Of imputation in those papers, which assertion hie Majesty was not prepared to deny, he shoeld be called upon to make the proposed retractation. Had the Honourable and Learned Gen denten recited the case to the Twelve Judges, and had those Judges decliired it, sets illegal to omit her Majesty's name, re storing it would not produce the effect which the Learned 3lenaber seemed to.anticipate. It could not establish innocence like the result of an inquiry. . At this moment Mr. Betottonert having re:. 7 entered the House, • . Lord CASTLEREAGH rose, and stated the grpunds upon' which he had suspended his observations.. Mr. BROUGHAM stannitted to the House, that it was per-, *ctly unprecedented for. Any. one Member to Insist upon the presence of another, end he protected against it. Since , how ever, the Noble• Lord seentedte br *latent; be (Mr. IlroUghim) `with the kayo of the Itimasti4 . would. retie re some pate of Asa Ifonse where bitisossid hirsortho. bone & sof same air, which le stood at that rime mach In iseedof, isf the earn. thng that he would -be )krfeedi filitldn ifseiplug of kite Ntible - I t 0ie1.,. - lard .CAdTLERILIEGII Was atrillint4 delay, to pwl iberied k the night that /right best selethe.edirmetiessee,of the Honour- Me Learn' Gentleman, W mlnaislie Jeweled the course iitich he had first artor r t, as a, madi of eespeft. .The . li nus e 'inlet be aware,. that ' the mita*. or:ihe'relation in Which dark bad been plated towards reek other' bY the late.proceed-' ings, the line of argument employed by thelhoourible Gentle. men could only be met by hint ord CtitiereSeb); sad in see salving to have his observadoos (L herd ipmsediatly by the Bu rotatable Member, be (Lord Castlereagh) was actuated by a 4 0 , 1 [ire -to ascertain Lew much they undetstood rich other. -Time Hattie being cut of from the knowledge of many facts, cititt not pos s ibly understand the.effect of many of his (Lord Castioe reagh's) remarks; and therefore , in the absence of the only . ber to whom W remarks could , be intelligible , he would • taken up the time of the Ho use i n va i n —(ilear, hear ! trait e. k Bronglrees.) hif Mr. BROUGHAM said, it only reMaintelfor him to removal the sespkien, that in withdrawing himself at the moment, he w.e. not conscious of any tfisre s p ect t o the House—,(Nernst 0 'Lord CASTLEREAGH loped- he hid satisfied the lion. 'and Learned Gentleman of the true nature of his motives, in adapting whet might appear, without explanation, an extraor dinary coax rand be begged to say, that ha,felt great pleasure, during the whole of the unpleasant proceedings, in having to ' communicate with him (Mr. Brougham), and that although be differed with the Mi. Member upon various points, he watt not the less inclined to bear testimony to the spirit of harmony apd conciliation which the Ilan. and Learned Gentleman c had ' uniformly manifested in the whole of the negociati on . H av i ng disposed of this explanation , he hived to call the attention of the Hunse to the immediate inkeet" of deliberation; and in addressing himself to the various topics which it was his duty' to. notice ' be would endmvoue to observe, as much as possible, the tone and spirit which bad so prapedy appeared in, aho,ub servations of his floe: Friend who moved the Resolution, He owned, however, that these were passages in th e s p eec h o f th e Ilan. and Likarn4 Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) which might, perhaps, ave beste.r. loin *Will; but t in wliatile was .aliii. to oiler, he award fulteite the ampleT of his flon. Frieod.- • ' ~t Adyiter,. inept bat eitY moot pet tesetriblwaitiere Igia beard its eau& ! f~' in. not asossiery, • .4liailoptv. be peskirmed jia deter, the Sites 1 Paraisurieet—prer4—' villas an the eiteneaatanc It•was cansidetedAtpee situation in which alas ...__ persons who steed opposed s ts76l case of her Majesty vv. 0 viestml .___ :this light' hie croubted rot shut k would net only juitilysnylistional extent tcl'WhiCli ilia .seeteoliii go in favour of the tliertrious Persow g., silo K a i delipped to honour him with het confidence., but ass,, soli l ift, h er _ .anwss.the feelings of .:very honest man whose b. Art was not 1:. • to such oppretsions,..injurim,and insults, as she had be t la to endttre--(Repeeted caratt--1-le feativssty mid oz,..t t oit' *• did the charge brought against hiMseit and his I)dioirthle t 'l Rind, of having forgotkn the bawls of the propowd acconimo.t. i. &Am., No tergtversatio.t, as the Noble Lord wotW represen4 4 . V I *Ver toilik p:ace on the tart at ber.listy's atlviscfs: ..4.124`10444 Obi ~ ,a ) Oyes had met 'on I i bash. that 4.r 31ajegty w.ta . :o re w e , hrst instance when abroad, he was nm disposed to des? t• ye.. h e h ad • kft i , in twr• thisproposithis tros mitie. to ho allethitt • ^ mot feel - eatisied if her Majesty waessot pitting* consgis te pd s ... 1, session of her rights as Queen; and mated with flue respect la' • foreign Stites to which from her high rant 3:+e,waa entitled. It ' ... mu - t r ue t hh t .. the spastisa of .• thy' Mastery had st theft d, hein mentioned, nor did he think it in•ce:;),u 7,ln..t.:t:st : he oAieved ilia shopid „am ion of the Heise to a provision for her in that character. The proposal made t• her when abroad was not to sacrifice , the character of Queen, but to abstain from the exercise of certain rights be long* to it. Ike Act of Pat ilerneet diti nat make if, meet.- wry to insert in-the Liturgy the dames of all. the ',ranches of the Royal Fondly.; . and from the passing of, the'Act of Uni. fortuity, the insertion- of-the Lunen had been it the disere. don of. the Crown. Unless the Queen was not a member of the Royal Famely a ahe was inch:Jed ill 1.•!. rriaers—.'llaura.-... ' The usage bad verlasl at diffeient th a ws; at the lievelea u e the, oames of the Pal/ceases were inserted in the prayer*, end the inset tion or the omission depended on the atthwity al the King in Council; that had been the case in the time of George 11. relative to the Duke of Cionh,•tiald. The wife-of George L had not been inserted in tha Liturgy ; and the only question was, whether the pr. saa exercise of the disiretioo vested in the Crown, was wise or otherwise. He could safely state that no ulterior object had been intended by the exclusion of the Quesm's name; as no steps had ever been meant to have been taken:am cept in the event of the Queen's comiag over to this country. He (Lord Castlereagh) had always made a distiiction bee:Veen changes and guilt. But Ministers had received :efarmatien, which, if true, conveyed a grave charge against the Queen, mad till such charges has been clilproved, the nunasion of her name in the Liturgy was a step properao 'he adopten. Sooner than not have given that athace he. would h a v e sacs-Weed his et a istence, istences The Learned •Gontlernan, when the questiou had been first mentioned in the Howse, had treated it as a " tribe, light as air," and had .said, that the ooly thing to which hd looked was the rank sea dignity of thf Qvetn—(l..ntvi chee-r). But if he had attached so much impOrtance to :he subject, he ought immediately to have brought it before the House: Bet after the lapse of somany month*, it wits too Lite to come for ward with objections. From what Apreare ain the ncgoCiations e - whet took place in the one stage was forgotten in the next; and front what then took •place it mieht reasenably be ibferred, that if the question as to the Nimes , had been conceded, another tie. mend would have been started. It hag been admitted by the .Hon. Gentleman, that the King was to retract ahhing. -After the omission, he had been the bearer a terms to the Quest, and it that time made no objection to the omission. In his letter from lit. Omer's, he bad said nothing about the omission, and the whole had then turned upon the ill treatment the Queen had experienced from foreign l'owers. The question of .the Li turgy had been an after-thought, and Ind probably hen suggested to the Learned Gentlemen by ethers. In the Queen', Message to the douse, she had never said that Ttine • point as to the liturgy was never to be abandonee'.--(ffrae).- -The Hon. Gerak man was too duteous and able an advocate ' not to have started the subject of the eraasion in the first in stance, had be then attached so mach :mica:axe to it. • In the three points that were to be. diseessen ..t the eoefatences, the question of the Litality had not bead named, Iltla lied that ques tion been nudes part of the negewiet iota haa est have tYlluismal it at once. The: case W:tS slillerent from what it had been fiat metly, then rumours only ptevailed, but now information had team submitted to the house. Ili: :It he law required, that the name of the Queen shoald /tare Leen insestkel it wouldhave rt. lieved Aliaistere front a must painful linty, but as things stood, the iuseition of the name ,was cakulateal to give rise to sinfoun. sled conch torts. , When Alitisters bad no alternative but either to receive the Queen with all the honours due to Majesty, or to bring forward the changes, theybad been rslistaantly drama to the latter course. If new points were to be breught ragweed, • all hopes of negiseiatien must be abandoned. lied Ministers counselled re:Erections, they must have been the basest servants that ever tendered advice to the Sovereign—( . None, hear). , Lord ..A RCHIBA LD. HA 31 I LTON' tabservede that he had waited before he submitted any proposition am this distressing subject,. that, he might first escert.:n what was. the nanire of his Honourable Erlend'i • (Mr. : Wilberforce) . motion, .bud to what meat it would . go.. _He. tvas . aiot prejtitiketiary thh opinion 6f any isabidailmitlarerpett.tollits ewe, he. anted entistip afar the aotheatity of his own. judgment;- nor. awl he biest ;aware how it wasectim treated till he had come down. that evenirag. It appeared, however, that the motion 0.. the an H. Mang r was meant to obviate ;hp necessslty of an abirmiat i tharigation. For Ahead& all. he tieshrea wee substantial jusnc:: Qintex slid not see that any.good could aithilt !ram the Tadalhatidoe•cOwahh- - fore the House.- What was, tit'? nature of that propositionhe lie. was the last man that should yass any taiketren on - the quarter from -which it came. as he - knew it prOceeded front an Hon. Gentleman who lint-trek an the unitappfeif. ferereces which existed hempen the laLustriota ledividaah hi question: But to what exteat, he should seam .ask, :did that proposition go? It was that the party it:4watt thpald • be still further inpired---, tiara hear)—and that the* Manisa : ea, by whom the injury was dune, sliaidel claim of bee Majesty ' a paramount acquiescence, in melee to retitle her to partial rellief--(Louti cheers). Ile had intended before to surer a pro- Position to the House Upon this question, but was restrained -. by the Honourabk Gentleman en the Treasury fetch, who hiked of delicacy, and urged the peepriety of abstalniog from public disclosures. But to him Itateetainty ;appeared that Orr Majesty wsuld gain infinitely more froniaoyablio es tint of facts, than she could by this resolution—elan% Ise ar,bear).-.. There ead one point in the speech of h:s floe. and L ; arced • Friesid (Mr. Brougham) which deserved partieul ir attentich. It was this-.that if the House abouidlkive an opinion that the Queen ought to be restored to the fall. passesnioa of her rights, it would be a disrespect not to his Majesty. bat to hi s Ali. cistere, who bad advis e d their being witlild—(Caeers) —The King, acting under their special advice, au cb tiot be rayon& sable in the affair. 'They had not, it was true, ithrisedabis Ma jetty to strike the Queen's name oat of the liturgy, but they ,had advised its being omitted, which amounted,: in effect to the wine thing, solar as her dignity was .oat. raecle-(Cseers)....- alit the Noble Lard bad naid,that under the term Royal Paini.y, her Majesty was regaisslypesied.foe ; soiree bee Majesty hander Ale Nape delegaadork.4lBa there aearatill an exprees mantitat e of • • Mann in the Litutgy a and it it should lie an usialticies t o'ol4 • .. IWith ivipeet to hitnabe. taw' narruaa why it waa*-fee b e 11y..50 as the ewe 'applied. - to. the', Qatiethaqawm.):....e '1 e Nelda. lewd thee is l ia Alli t aolll l. l l 4 4 l .br J jeliVin •Of • whichwassese That :thee Hfrila• bit "sliiallt.i. fOo 1 01 4. 04 iith the mingikagagot pf el has righb =awes:asks 10. c. ; 6 Testy, arid felt ehat:theipeektmo.of lawman* teas the Liturgy would heathwelinseelfisetwiloweasofprevensiel sa e aja e Omit, of au invenleetion whith g diihat sa l ahilkthiglii a trtildt,, . mune be as *gr*. lo her Majaki:V.4 ll6 taitt4,4lPbe - dal:vitrify to thedisilittratadie ANtsallikiOliffapitappirgiogjele. - Natioa"--(Chave)Aaa a:a a. • ' . 1.,..i ...• 'a_ 4 • -- •Sir FREktfelliaafitiniTT ' - - MriDKNMAWeh---- • kltufteaTT agerdeittheklork4.. Nosterosaes ol l beesqlar.tioint'v..firebtlild a thilladstaik op separate his' thapoks•li fix!dorjr.ae a tabu of PAlrtheneatvfae•hess a 4 meatthose isice.ctistincuegs, pfilvAiell it e It! Bat :hersthe eesereeho e of the distieetfi j i ,• as 'theater& . 00 leavonelsiiief isieretni tie rased aseitherease; Ice he ethobest 40silharirsi iees best acquitted, hz.iiisg( as 4 : iib tr 1 0 ( ie)--Yeal thu feet would .vpear- esstances'of tier ease •wereop n id eft d w b e ., epos what unaquaktefri's she y hsd came Wire* -friendless, fittrhota,• sod unprottnidWig th e ' the warn plapeckae compared with that ef the opposed to her !—(l.vrl chant), Wh e n th e sty w..o,lestell in this . 4, II I • '.l I 1 1 ,1 ,