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across my mind that this Most disesttous letter might' be turned to some account. I said; "'(iP to DOW Curtis, look at the letter. see whether it can be of any sue; and if it can, I shall be ready to make any uteri gee. Use it as you please, and do not think of me!" My Lords, the effect of the appearance of that letter was almost magical, the people conceiving it to contain the advice of a real 'friend who was anxious for their wel fate, and to whose directions they were willing to bow. I Leg Noble Lords to consider what the • effect of that letter was on the Catholic Association, and throughout the country. .If it had not been for that letter, unless, indeed, the Noble Duke had stated at the time' that he meant to carry the Catholic Question, of which we were then ell ignorant, I protest that the country would have been in such a state, not certainly of insurrection, but a state of- agitation, during which the consequences might have been fearful. Now, my Lords, I will take leave to call your attention to this letter, and I wish you to eonsider the spirit and feeling with which it was written. I say it was with the kindest spirit and feeling towards •the Noble Duke, and laudatory of him, for it pointed him out as the only man who had the power to carry . the Catholic Question. It showed the Catholics bow utterly useless it would be to appeal to brute force; and it pointed out to them that their only chance was an appeal to the Legislature. I know it has been stated that in that letter I encouraged and invited agitation. Letany Noble Lord, if he can, point out a single pas -aage that does so. I will refer you to the only para graph that can at all bear upon this point. I should have liked to have taken the whole lever, paragraph by paragraph I but, as I conceive this is unnecessary, I will go at-once to the only paragraph that can be at all mis construed—" What I do recommend is that the mea sure should not be for a moment lost sight of." Was there any agitation in this? " That anxiety should con. tinue to be manifested." There is nothing - of agitation hem. " That all Constitutional tineontradistinctioa to several legal) measures should be resorted' to." • Now, I am told that there has been much cavilling at thii pas. sage. I am but little of a grammarian, and not much used to letter writing, but to my mind the simple meaning of this junsage is, " Your acts should not merely be within the law, but they .must be constitutional." For instance, with regard to the Catholic Association, while was in Ireland I never found one person to tell me that the Association was illegal. although I found many to tell me that it was unconstitutional. It was, they, in this sense, my Lords. And in this sensionly, that I said, f! Let constitutional measures be resorted to."- Now, My Lords, my firm belief is, that if this letter had not been written, the Noble Duke would never have had it in his power to press forward .to so happy a termination the Bill for the relief of the Roman Catholics, for which I am desirous to express my gratitude, and to state my 'belief in the deep and permanent gratitude of the Roman Catholics . pf Ireland. The Noble Marquis then moved for cop' .of letters.written by the Secretary of State for the Home Department to the Lord Lieutenant of lieland, dated November 10 and November 14. The 1:011D CHANCELLOR having read the motion, The Duke Of WELLINGTON said—lt is with much pain;my Lords, that I feel myself compelled to enter into a discussion upon this subject. Ithink we should have been spared the necessity'ot entering into such a discussion at this period'of the Session . I think that in the course of this Se ss i o n , dating which the state and the government of Ireland have been so frequently un der consideration, and during which I have so Ire-. absently had occasion to address the House upon the subject, in all my addresses caretully abstriining from making any allusion to the government of the Noble Marquis in Ireland; in fact, not only abstaining from making any disrespectful allusion to it, but actually, upon the only occasion on which any serious charge war really made against it. I defended the conduct of the Noble Marquis. as I consider it to be my duty to defend the conduct of one who was appointed by his Majesty to the goveronient of Ireland; under these cir cumstances I must say, that .I do think any further discussion upon this subject might have been spared, and more particularly so after all that has 'since passed. I !Mast object to the production of 'the papers Which the liohle Marquis has moved for. It must be obvious to etm7 14Ob1e Lord present that this House has no busi ness to interfere in cases of the dismission of any of his Majesty's savants, except in cases where martial pub lie 'injury and inconvenience - Would follow,* in cases in which ,Parliament hai directly interfered in 'the . ap- . pointnient. In such cases as these the House would have a right to interpose. But I believe the fact is, that, except in such cases, Parliament hasnot interfered; and zm wire Parliament never Can interfere without great inpiry and inconvenience not only to the House but to the country at large. The course which the Noble M.r quis has pursued in the discussion of this day shows whatthe inconveniences of such dieustions are. The .140ble,MarqUis has moved for the production of one or two papers;. but, in order to elucidate the native of those papers, he has read 1 urge and copious extractiirorn othfr documents; hilt he has not 'read the whole of those docontents, nor has he :rad many of those parts which 1 consider are material to elucidate, in a fair and proper manner, the - nature of the papers which he now seeks to obtain. beg to obsetve, that she Noble Marquis has also read some letters which passed between him and myself of a nature the most confidential that could by possibility take place between the Lord*Lieutenant of Ireland and a &balker of this country, viz. the .sentiments and ieelings •or the Sove reign upon any particular subject. The Noble Marquis has said that he had his Majesty's permission to read those letters, in order that he might be the better able to explain the eircumStaneesirldei which he quitted the government of Irefan4: bitable Marquis has eritleav,ourd - to explain . those circumstances, but 'I toeless 'bat I have understood them very differently to what he has done. I Understood it to be his 'Ma pleasure . that . the Noble Marquis should be reliesed.from the government of Ireland, liecanit the . correspondence • between the Noble ' Marquis and another person in Ireland was of such a nature at precluded the possibility of . his remaining;lcinger in so responsible a situation. A 'correspondence accordingly took place between the Noble Marquis aild,myulf, but that * corresPiondence was of a strictly private and etmgdential nature; therefore, can not believe that his Majesty could have.given his per mission .for their being read is this House. .1 cannot • !Mim s I gay, that his Majesty could have given his . permission for any such thi ng: I n o w come to What that coty j eapoodeoce was. Tun are lan aarare,:iss, i Loikthat .sforang the whole co urse o f t h e list importaot summer I had in contemplation the measure *lna 'this - Session has pissed into a lien It *alio well known dial my object from the cOminetternienkffihe ducussidhl Opiati ibis alibied has 141),tolirtieall nlion'the of all others , wa s most interested in it, to give his con- Mat to its being brought forwaid...Without that conseM • Ifelt that I could not bring - itiorward, or at least thait .1 could not bring it forward 'with effect. Now. in the letter to Dr. Curtis, arid agaiiithia"night, the Noble Marquis has stated that he did luit knosawhat nsy sentr meats Were orgies subject of thiCatbolir quehtion outi ' a very short time previous to his being relieved from the GovernMent of belied: . Now, my Lards. Theft !hire to read a few words from the correspondence wh&9 I. have had with the Noble Marquis upon this subject; and which will shqw ; in the clearest and most distinct man ner. not only that he had tor some time been made ac (painted with my views and opinions upon the subject, ' but that he *as also informed of the very grounds upon .which those lieas and.opinions were founded. On the nth September the Noble Lord wrote to me to the fol• lowing effect (The Noble Doke here read a letter which he had received from the Marquis of Anglesey, the purport of which was, that, in the opinion ot the Noble Marquis, the proper time was come for granting emancipation to the Catholics. The Bishops, he said, would be easily satisfied if some arrangement were made about the payment of the Catholic clergy.) To this letter I wrote the following reply, dated 28tb September, and which I think is fully descriptive of what my sentiments where upon the question of Catho lic emancipation :_(The Noble Duke here read the letter alluded to.) he letter was dated London, 28th September, and as we understood, was nearly to the following effect :--‘ 6 I have with my colleagues. sealed letters upon the subject of the Catholic question. One of them has been laid before the King. The other he has not yet seen, as he has been unwell; but I will lay it before the King when he is sufficiently well for , nit to speak on a subject. of which he never bears nor never speaks without being disturbed. I never will sup port the measure until it is brought forward by Parlia ment."—(Here the letter alluded to the conduct of the Prime Ministers upon this question from the year 1910 down to the period of Mr. Cannifig's administration.) It continued—a From this you will see that the first step is to reconcile the King's mind to an arrangement. .Unless that can be done I should only deceive in speak ing of it.at all. or in mentioning any plan that may be submitted to Parliament for a settlement of the ques tion. Some are of opinion that the difficulties in Ireland would be got rid ot by granting emancipation. At present it is quite clear that nothing can be done." I certainly had occasion to write to the Noble Lord on the 11th of December, with respect to certain transac tions which were going on in Ireland, and which I found very materially increased the difficulties Which had so long existed in Ireland. But, before Igo further upon this point of the subject, I entreat the House to advert to the situation of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and to consider what - that situation really is. The officer who fills it is endowed with as great or even greater power than is entrusted to any subject of any other Sovereign in the world. But at the same time that officer holds his situation through a medium which renders him respbnsible to this' country ; and it is the duty of Ministers to intimate to the Lord Lieutenant if he is acting improperly, or in such a manner as to create difficulties to the State or disturbances among the peo ple, er if his conduct in the discharge of the duties of his office should be displeasing to his Majesty. Under such particular circumstances as these, it ii the duty of his Majesty's Ministers in this country to inform him of it, audit is, moreover, their undoubted duty to commu nicate to him what the views of the Government might be with respect to the country of which he Watt placed at the head. Upon this part of the subject I think the Noble Marquis has nothing to complain, for I every day in. formed him of the circumstances detailed in the let ter which I have read. I should, indeed, have been highly to blame if 1 bad not communicated the in structions contained in that letter to the Noble Lord. Arid now I must beg leave to say, that I was not very far wrong in the opinion which I formed of the two Magistrates which have been alluded to in the correspondence upon the subject; for in a very short time afterwards tbq correspondence ceased, and those: two Magistrates were struck out of the commission of: the peace in Ireland—(A laugh). It was my duty to let the Noble Marquis know what wry 'opinion Of the conduct of those persons really was. After that it was quite obvious to me, as I am sure it must have been to all of you, my Lords, who bare heard the correspoo. dence which has this evening been read, that t Noble Lord could go on no longer in the situation in which he stood. I might have been wrong, but this 1 must say, that in my opinion the tiling was impossible— we could not go on together any longer. But 1 did not take upon myself the responsibility of the removal of the Noble Lord. I produced the correspondence which had transpired between us to my colleagues, and they were of the same opinion upon the subject as my. self. I then communicated the result ot our delibera tion to his Majesty, arid received it as his pleasure that a communication should be made to the Noble Mar quis, informing him that it had been determined to relieve him from the government of Ireland. The order for his relief was not occasioned by any letter which had been addressed to me. It was occa sioned entirely by the previous corresp o ndence, an d more particularly by a paragragh of one of the Nohle Lord's letters which had been published in the Irish Journals. I received his Majesty's pleasure that this communication should be made to the Noble Marquis on ac 27th .1 December, and on the following day I made it accordingly. Having so far explained the cir cumstances under which the Noble Lord was removed hum the Government of Iceland, I must beg leave to say that I entirely deprecate such discussions as this. I feel that they can do no good. I feel that they can be productive of nothing but irjury to the public—and I am quite convinced-that tine Noble Marquis scold feel much more satisfied with him self if he had abstained from bringing this subject forward. I now come to the other pare of the subject, viz, the sudden removal of the Noble Lord. He was„ ih toe first place, merely told that he was to be relieved, and it was understood that he ;would amain in hi, government until it was conv enient t o re li eve hi m . This understanding was grounded upon a lrtter which the Noble !darnels had written upon the 14. h of Sep tember, in which he stated that, as it was possible his Majesty might feel the expediency of making a difference in the government of Ireland, it was his most anziouswish to facilitate any measures that .Ministers might bring forward with a view to a ff ord any relief to the Ca tholic inhabitants of that country. by meeting his Majesty's pleasure in every way in his power. Buy' notwithstanding all that was 'expressed in that letter, the communication which I have before alluded to was made on the 28th of December, and the Noble Marquis ceded on 'the 80th. But previous to this I received a letter - from Dr. Curtis, dated 4th of December, to which I wrote an answer on the 11th, which the Doctor thought proper to publish. Now, I know it has been said that there never was such a' letter as that which I wrote to Doctor Curtis; and, although I have a letter from the Doctor which might perhaps be deemed almost, if not quite, as extraordinary as mine. I shall not follow his example by publishing 41 14 ( which I consider a private letter. On the 80th of December the Noble Marquis received the order for his relief. Qa the Ist of jantiary appeared in one of the paper is th e Int* wheels I had addressed to*Dr. Cams, together with *coltish& upon it. The Noble Lord ad di tsied 'I letter to De:Caitis Gs the 25(1. By a singular ''t = . circumstance the Doctor commuaicated this letter con ft • t dehtiilly,'and nii'thi same day'pablisko it in one -of the Dtiblin paperi.Thii is Cbitainfy saint'. hat ext ram dina y; balmy Lords,ihere it yet 'anther singular circumstance. The Noble Manqiiis made several observations upon the feeling which I had ezpresied oT the necessity of obtain. iiig tranquillity in Ireland previous to any discussion upon the question. I beg leave to read an extract from a pelt of one of his letters to me. (The Noble Duke here read a part of one of the Noble Marquis's letters, 'dated the 20thofJUly, in' ivhich he expressed his conviction of thinecessity of maintaining the peace and tranquil lity of Ireland until the measure of emancipation could be' again dis Cussed, adding that, if any thing like opposition took place, he sincerely adjured the Noble Duke to take the question into consideration is the first week of the ensuing Session). Ir is qiiite clear, therefore, from this letter, that the necessity of tranquil• lily in Ireland' was hot only my opinion, but also the' opinion of the Noble Marquis himself. The Noble Marquis s iid,first of all, that he wrote kOnfidentially Dr. Curtis, but immediately-afterwards published hil l letter. I suppose that was done with a• view to keep the country tranquil. but I confess it apoears to me a very strange way. But I will read what Mr. O'Connell thought upon this letter. He said, " Lord Anglesey recommends that all constitutional, as coutraolistin guivied to legal measures. should be adopted to for ward the cause of Catholic Emancipation.- This is the only point of the letter which I am inZlined to dis claim, as I think that our cause should be grounded upon its legality alone." So that the Noble Lord,• by way of tranquillizing, puhlishes a letter whch these ,agitators will not follow, because they think it too .strong. But, my Lords, the Noble Marquis says that the letter is quite innocent—that all the strong words which he had made use of did not mean agitate. The Marquis of a NGLESEY—The weed agitate is not hi it. The Duke of WELLINGTON t eal a pas s a ge f rom the Noble * Loa. letter, which concluded in the follow ing manner—" When the Catholics vs acease to agitate, and the miseries of the country wilt be alleviated.“— Now, with respect to this agitation (continued the Noble Duke), I will nit only refer back to my own letter, but co the history of Ireland, to find out what the word "agitate" means. It means something just shoot of rebellion. But when the Noble Marquis wrote that letter he was in his Majesty's service. I will call your Lord ships' attention to the nature of the discussion 0 hich the Noble Lord was at that time carrying on. The Noble Lord began his government by a regular discussion with the subjects respecting this pointor iz.wheiher applications should be made to Parliament )rs revise the law im posing civil disabilities upon the Roman Catholic inha bitants of the country ? The Noble Lord afterwards received directions to consider with the Law Officers of the Crown Of the means of putting down the Associa tion by a prosecution, Or by any legal proceedings. f he Noble Marquis did consider that question. I ask, then, whether this measure with Di. Curtis is consi:tent with the measures which he was directed to take with. respect to the putting down of the Catholic Associa tion? Then the Noble Margins issued a proclamation of thelst of October. I ask the Noble Lord whether the agitation alluded to in hii letier is consistent with' that proclamation ?—whither what he recommends in that proclamation is consistent with what he afterwards' thought proper to write ? After this proclamation he gave directions for 'the procecution of Me. Lawless. ask whether that was consistent ? The whole tenour of his correspoirdei:ce, flons which I might take much more copious extracts, would show that the Noble Mat guts was sensible, from the commencement of his Go tvernment, set the evils that would arise to the country lf it were allowed to be agitated uptin• the question of Catholic Einancipation. * Yet he leaves the country a legaiy by recommendin g them to continue 'hat very sys tem of agitation which he had lorig known to be injui ions. Ifwas quite impossible, after that Idler, that the Noble Lord couldcontintle at thelsead of theGovernnient r f Ire. lead. I really must state, in jhstice to myself, and to those who ate in office with'me, that I ought to read some of the letters se loch parsed between the Government of the Noble Lord and the Right Honourable the Secretary of State upon this subject ; but I feel that I have already taken up so much lime that I will not dO so now. In conclusion I have only to say, that 'Chace never, since I have sat in this House, entered into any discu.sion with more pain to myself than the present, and I should have avoided it altogether had I not felt it a duty which the'public would expect from me to make a reply co what had fallen from the Noble Marquis. The Marquis of ANGLESEY sa id—l s h a ll mere l y - make a single observation upon the declaration of the Noble Doke, in which he asserts bil conviction that bii Majesty never could have given me permission to teed the letters which I have this day laid before the House.l beg leave to say, that I had his Majesty's express permi+. situ' to read any papers which I might consider necesfi wary in my vindication. I have produced those papers; and I think, if the Noble Duke car, consider that I have, asserted that which is false, that it would be well for him to recommend his Majesty to take away from me' all those hoi:ours which he has conferred upon me, and which I still tetain. The N.rble Duke seems to think that I have kept back a great part of the correspon dente which would have told very much against me. The Deke of WRLLINGTON—No, No! The Marquis of ANGLESEY—You certainly said something very much like it. MY Lords,• the Noble Duke quoted passages from a letter in which he says he made me acquainted with his opinion upon the Catholic 'question. I have read that letter with great attention, but I confess I am utterly unable to discover anything in it by which it would be possible for me to know what his sentiments were upon the subject I cer tainly can collect nothing that is favourable to the Claims, but that, on the contrary, he thought the measure of Emancipation would serve only' to agi tate and disturb the country. I still persist that I have to complain of the 'fact, that the. first idea I had of the kl , ible Duke's having any wish to concede 'to the Catholics was the letter that the King's Prime Minister wrote to the Primate of Ireland. It was through this source, and no other, that I, as the Kings representative in Ireland, received the first intelligence l of the intended measure of the English Government.— I think there must have been some strange mistake in the printing of that letter of mine, hem which the Noble Duke has read the word is agitate; as I feel convinced that I never made use of that word myself. It would be easy, however, at any time to refer to the letter in my own hand-writing, when all doubt upon the subject could be put at rest. I ask, therefore, if this correspondence is to tell so much against me, why that letter is not produced ? There is no Mate, ial merit that I know of in the proclamation which I issued in October last, and which has been alluded to by the Noble Duke; but I must say, if there is any merit, that it is not due to this Government, for I wrote several times to this country upon the subject, but received no answer; so that I at last put it forth upon my own re sponsibility. With respect to the case of Lawless, consulted with the Law Officers of the Crown, becattse it would be necessary to arrest him before I could receive an answer from slats countrs.— The day after my arrival from Ireland, I requested an interview with his Majesty, which was kindly granted. I then told his Majesty that I did not think he had seen the letters which had been so much tarKed about. His Majesty said he had; but as I expressed a doubt, from the impression which had been made upon hie mind, that he bad read only parts of them, his Majesty, to satisfy every doubt that. I might entertain upon that head, immediately took them up, and read every word they contained.' When he had done so, he told me that ['was at liberty to make use of all, or airy, of them, in the tintlication which I should consider necessary to make to this House, and I have made use of them ac ccirdingly.—The motion was then negatived. The House adjourned at Emmy o'Cusca. HOUSE OF COMMONS. , Mr. DICKINSON piesented a Petition from the Woollen Manufacturers of Frome in Sontersetddre, praying that the trade with India might be opened. The Had Member also presented a Petition from the Parish of St. Michael, Batts, praying fora repeal of the House and Window Tax. • Lord W. PAULIZTT presented a Petition from the Shipowners and Merchants of Sutherland. praying that the trade with lathe might be Sir It. K I ;t e tUHAR presented a Petition ftnm an inhabitant of the Island of Mauritius, praying for relief front some grievances under which be laboured. Ills. FONTAINE WILSON presented a Petition from a Parish in Yorkshire, praying for a repeal of the House and WM. dew Tax. Mr. R. HILL presented a Petition from Thomas Boyce, a Ser. jeant in the Salop Militia, against a reduction in the Militia Staff. Mr. N. CALVERT presented a Petition from a Silk Manufac tures, praying that the duty on foreign thrown silk might not be reduced. . Mr. C. N. PALLMRR presented a Petition from the Pay. master of the Surrey Militia against a reduction in the Militia StaiL Mr. DUGDALR presented a Petition from Birmingham against a Bill POW before the House relating to Resists Settlements. Mr. SLANEY supported the clause objected to. Sir F. KN A rcH BULL thought the Bill capable of improve- Imenc, hut would reserve his observations respecting it until the second reading._ Mr. ItOLINSON presented five Petitions front different indi viduals concerned in the Silk Trade, against a reduction of duty us foreign thrown silk. The second reading of the Juvenile Offenders Bill was deferred .to Wednesday neat. Mr. W Hfrmons postponed his motion retain to the Atfdirs of ladia to o future day. M. LYTTLETON, in presenting a petition front Mr. Symcox. complaining of not having received com pensation. according to the Convention entered into be. teen the Governments of Great Britain a n d Spain, respecting the liquidation of the reciprocal claims of the subjects of both kingdoms on each other. censured the partial conduct of the Commissioners in the Ms. posal of these claims. The Honourable Me:nber en. ' tered into a detail of the circumstances attending the case, as bas already appeared before the public. and concluded by expressing his hr.pes that the Chancelloll of the Ezchequer would not offer any opposition to the liquidation of the claim of the petite. tier, it, on due consideration, it should be found to merit it. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the question offered for the consideration of the House was, whether they should re-consider a subject which had been previously discussed, and decided by the Committee of Penance? He would object tout, not only on the gronnds'of i t s aff or di ng a bad precedent, but also on' those of its internal merits. He admitted that' the Commissioners had acted with much impu dence in being influenced by kind considerations toss ards the petitioner, in holding out hopes to him, which they could not consistently with their duty !Mize. The Right Honourable Gentleman having explained the portico- Ilars of the occurrences between the petitioner and the Commissioners when the present claim was under con. .iieration, observed, that for the reasons before sta.ed he would oppose the payer of t'.e Petition. Mr. K. DOUGLAS supported the Peaces!). Mr. BERNAL maintained that as the Petitioner felt aggrieved, and had no tiihunal to api cal to but Par. Inice ent, he was entitled, in justice, t.' have his case in quired into. Mr. THOMPSON thought that the Chancellor .of the Exchequer had no right to °Fops.- an act of justice, on the grounds of inconvenience, for that seethed to be the principle on which his opposithin was founded. He recommended to the Hoe:. Member fur Saiffordshiee to press tht case to a C..stimitt-e. Mr. ROBERT GRANT looked on the opposition of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the claims of the Petitioner as a gross act of injuttice. It was not denied, that the petitioner had been entitled so compensation, according to preconvention, and it was admitted that there were funds in hand adequate to that . purpose ; under which circumsi S. es he could not reconcile it with justice, to exclude the petitioner train even an in quiry into this case, merely because he had neglected to comply with certain forms. Mr. BARING thought the House of Commons the worst tiebunal before which such a subject could he brought, knowing. as he did, how C ))))) mittee. Mere generally appointed, and bow Committees were in the h4bit of inve.tigating into such subject,. He could nut agree with some Hon. Members that the petitioner would derive much benefit from'an inquiry. Mr. C. PELHAM said a few word. to the same effect. Mr. LITTLETON did not wish to press for a Com mittee, but he hoped that the Chancellor of the Ex. chequer, now seeing that there was a strong sense in the House of justice having been withheld, uould appoict a Committee,. with a view of satisfying the , parties. There was a sum of 250,0001 in hand, and one.fifth of that amount would liquidate the claims of all those whose claims had been admitted. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not consent to the appointment of a Committee. •If all tbuse who thought they had a right to compensation were to be paid, or were allowed to have their claims investigated, a million of money would not pay the amount, and there would be no end to ir.quiries. After a few wares from Mr. ROUST GUST. the Petition was ordered to be on the Table. Mr. HUME presented a Peados from the Samaritan Friendly Society, praying cob, beard by Cosasel against the Frieudly Society Bill now before the House. Mr. V. FITZGERALD presented a Petition from the Corpo. radon of Leith, praying that that Port might be incleded in the Pores into which Foreign Silks might be imported. The Risht Hon. Gentleman said, that the petitionen tittirely over-rated the advantages to be derived from the privileges they sought tor. Mr. HUME supported the prayer of the Petition, which pas read. and ordered to be printed. Lord J. RUSSELL presented a Petidon from certain inhabl. tests of Rye, w in Sussex, complaining of th e st ate o f t h e R eprea . tation of the United Kingdom. The Noma Lobo then presented a Petition from a Friendly Society Meeting In Carnabi Market ag a in st the Friendly Societies Rill. Sir .1. MACINTOSH postponed his motion respecting ldr. O'Reily's claim on the East India Company till to-morrow. On the question being put that the Report of the Committee on the Silk Trade be received, Mr. FYLER said that notwithstanding whatlad been already said on this subject, he could not refrain from saying that this measure would be ruinous to the silk trade, the tradesmen of which were already in the greatest distress, id consequence partly of Want of em ployment, and the low rate of wages to sodas were at wo. k. For his pan be should•like to see some measure brought into Parliament for the regulation of tradesmed and labourers' wages. He was Sure that the Bill before the House would diminish the profits of the ma.nufds. ••• •