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Lord CALTHORPE, in presenting a Petition from the physicians end surgeons of, Birmingham, praying thitfacillty might be afforded them In procuring subjects for dissection, and another (resit the Magistrates of Birmingham, praying that the former petition might be takes' into condderation by the Govern ment, alluded In strong terms to the late disgraceful and horrible occurrences that _had takes place. and to the encouragement that :-.-weetwereserryitwetr To slaw er the hit aketionnd *Man. who wowed then subjects for dissection. He was sure that ' each 'scenes would induce those who were even most adverse to ‹. the Subject • being brought sander the coosideratiel of be Leeds lure now to change their opinions, and he hoped that tbs subject • would meet with the serious consideration of his Majesty's filts ve. ammo which now breams more than ever amessary.—Ordereil. to Its ors ;hi table. r ASSOCIATION SUPPRISSION SILL. The Doke of WELLINGTON rose to move the third R . readitit of the Bill for Suppressing Illegal Associations •• in Ireland. Since the discussion that had taken place . • "" yesterday, it had been suggested to him by a Noble r% ... Friend to introduces clause, the object of which would • be to prevent the interference of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland with religious associations meeting for legal 'purposes, on the ground of the disturbances which those ' associations continually met With in their meetings by persons hostile to their proceedings; but be must con fess that he saw no occasion for the introduction of such a clause, for the object of the Bill was to empower the Lard Lieumnant to prevent and put down illegal and seditious assemblies only; and, as the Associations laded to in the proposed clause were not of a nature like what he had mentioned, that Bill extended not to them. Under these circumstances he saw no advise -.cage whatever that would be gained from the intsoduc tion of a clause that lad no connection with the Bill. Lord REDESDALE said, 'strong apprehension pre vailed in the country that a use might be attempted to be made of the Act, contrary to the drift intended by She Noble Duke; and, in fact, he saw no provision is the 841 for guarding against the evil alluded to in the , proposed clause mentioned by the Noble Duke. It was undoubted fact that the Roman Catholic priests in particular mere eis the habit o f creating continual di,. • mob once' in meetings held for a religious purpose. As he hadleen the person to suggest the Amendment to the Noble Duke, he felt himself called on to make this observation. He thought that such an Amendment wins necessary, or he would have !sten the last to sug • . gest the introduction of the clause. The Marquis of ANGLESEY said, as the measure ; 4 : ftnitained in the Bill now before the House was intro , abased by his Majesty's Ministers. and had been gre , eiously recommended from the Throne, as preparatory M 1 greater measure, which, he trusted, would shortly be brought before the House, be rose not for the put pose of objecti-g to that measure. He wished rather to facilitate and expedite the Bill through its third reading, though be really could see ao necessity fur its • enact - cleat. Although he was ready to grant tirat there WAS great room for improvement in the conduct of many in Leland, yet be would wish to see the pro noised entice.* on granted without any drawback. That was an act of grace—the other he could not avoid considering as an ungracious act—(Hear).— . What was it, be would ask, that caused the first Mot of the Roman Catholic Association? He would answer, the oppressive, the unjust, aod the offensive laws that had too long existed. They were only to remove the cause, and they would also remove the effect. They ha.] entv to repeal those offensive and oppressive laws, and the Catholic Association would cease to exist; in fact, the Catholic A.sociatiou had already ceased to exist, and ttelefi•re that Bill would not act against that Aa-oc Mum. Its object most be directed against other Assocs. t ons that existed in Ireland. What, he would ask. gave rise to ti,e Ittunswick Clubs, in Ireland ? Them eat not a member of a Biunswick Club in the • House bur vs., u ld admit chat it was the Catholic Asso c scion. They professed to have uuiced for the purpose of oprosing the Catholic Associatioit, and to strengthen the arms of Gov rfillneht. He would give them credit for this, but he tett that there was no obligation for such Clubs. The Goveromet t, he thought, was capable a f taking c toot itself, and it required no such nuisance.. The Catholic As.ociation arose in consequence of the many grievances which the Roman Catholics were • 'forced to suffer, and while there appeared no redress of those grievances it continued ; but, as sison as this great ale s re was heard of, there then no !onset existed any - cause for the continuance of that Association, - and it ceased to exist. That there did, however, still exist As sociations in Ireland could not be denied—Associations that tended more than any to distract the Country.-- * They had acted, he would confess, on the defensive; but, now that the cause of their having arisen was at an end, they ought no longer to continue. In this respect the Roman Catholic Association had set them an example, but they had not imitated it. All that was necessary, be thought, was that the Government should relieve the Roman tatholics of those grievances under which so many millions had long suffered; and he thought that. if they confidently and fully repealed those ti just and oppressive laws, they would find that there caked - no necessity for enactments like the pie-tnt; butin such repeals they would find an ample and secure haven. . The Earl of LONGFORD could not sit ant and hear such praise bestowed on the Catholic Association, and more than censure cast upon the Brunswick Clubs. which he (L• id Longford) would maintain bad bee* bnoettly and st lely defensive Hear). That was tee p r i n ciple on which 'the Brunswick Clubs had beats formed ; and it was a true, honest. fair, and coastito. Coital principle. From that principle they had never departed . ; bur they had always conducted themselves' as became loyal men and good subjects. What, how am, was the case with regard to the Catholic Asbocia• tion ? It had been formed, , ther j int stock coo. Jinies, to injure the interests of the country. Other oint stock compan et had almost ruined the finances of • the count , y, and thus inint stock company of faction, 'edition, disaffection, and treason, had almost toil ed the country by its procetdings. It commenced by a ghost decided opposition to the Government, and that opposition it continued to the last. In looking to their proceedihgs, be conceived that there existed some grounds fur palliation, not in their favour, but by reason of the forbearance exhibited towards them 'by the two preceding Administrations in Ireland.— The last but one did not, in his opinion, exert suffi cient strength against the Association in 1825. The Government obtained a Bill to put dowo the Aslo. eiation, but it never acted upon that Bill (Hear) If that Government thought the Act insufficient, it should have called for nkw powers bean Parliament.— That Administrations was deficient in spirit. but the Go- Wernment that followed it was worse. The Noble Lord • concluded by observing, that the minds of ell well in fotmed pet sons were madeop on the subject* the ne pesky of this weasel,. becaese they were cohvinced that it was altogether impossible that any Geis:mem could possibly go on under the ciicamstarrces in thick the Government of Ireland bad -been placed for IMaig, Ow. The ht trquis of ANGLESEY begged to state. that he had never attacked or shown himself •hostile to the flieusviich Chiba by any act of his Government. caressing), to which allusion had been madttozight, was not that these - Chiba were • formed ea. offensive principles,liet that they wets in their timbre defensiv e. . The Earl of LONGFORD regretted be bad been Ina dated rs adopt a misrepresentation. 4..0rd• Viscount GODERICH said, as he had ab sta•ned'from entering into any &scission on the Catho. Tic Question, he hoped their Lordships would excuse him if he should venture to say a few words upon the Bill now before them. He did not mean at all to oppose the passing of that Bill, although he thought that the provisions contained in it were of too rigid a nature.— With regard to the Catholic Association, he certainly felt that that body deserved censure. He considered it an institution subversive of the general good, and dangerous to the welfare of the country. That the Association arose in consequence of the grievances that were felt universally by the Roman Catholics of Ire land he believed, and he was glad to find that now, since . those grievances were likely to have an end, that the Roman Catholic Association has ceased to exist. lheir meetings were now discontinued, and he hoped that the original cause of those meetings would soon also be no longer felt. They had heard much said against the principle of fear, but he confessed that he saw, while' those grievances and disabilities continued, there was, in his opinion, Rood ground for fear; for, although England herself might be in safety, yet, while he saw discontent and disaffection prevail in any of his Ma jesty's dominions, lie thought they would do tight in rooting out the cause of that discontent, lest a worse evil should ensue. He thought that the claims of the Roman Catholics were just and right. Justice as well as necessity called for redress; and therefore he felt that it behoved him to take a course directly opposite to that which the Noble Lord who last addressed the House so constantly and so strenuously adhered to. Lord ELLEN BOROUGH hoped their Lordships, were fully persuaded that nothing short of ao absolute and imperious'necessity had induced his Majesty's Mi nisters to put down by this Bill the Association. He was free to confess this Bill would not do it alone. But mut!) was to be expected from the effect of it, com bined with the co-operation of the contemplated mea sure of grace and concession. In' point of time, it was necessary the measure of coercion must precede that of grace; in fact, be wished to know, could any Adminis tration in the present st ste of the country, and the violent excitement of the tinses,attempt to bring forward with any hope of success, the great measure of conciliation without having removed in the first place popular scruples and jealousy, by the enactment of the measure of coercion ? No measure of coercion, independently of the projected measure of conciliation, could possibly maintain the peace of Ireland for any length of time. He would, in conclusion, observe, that whatever gratification might . be afforded to others by the circumstance, it would be comparatively trifling compared to that which his Ma jesty's Ministers would fzel whenever the progress of events should release them from the responsibility un der which they must labour as long as they weresrmed with the strong powers sought by the enactment of the Bill before their Lordships. Lord MELBOURNE entered at some length into the defence of the measures of the Irish Government during the last few years, particularly whilst he bad filled the important office of Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. He was persuaded if this mea sure was not followed up by one of grace and favour, it wou'd fall altogether short of pacification or con ciliation of the Irish Catholics. It was trtut they might 'devise means of paying down this or that, or any asso. ciation for a time, bur it was sure to break out again. because the source of their discontent Was oat regime?d, by a measure erroneous in its principle. He telt it his duty to give to the Bill, as it stood, his cordial support, as part of a system which he trusted would have the best influence on the future condition and well-being of that part of our empire. The Earl of MANSFIELD believed there never had been known an instance of an association of a -mote alarming and dangerous nature, fostered 'as it were within the State, thin the Catholic Association of Ire land. After it had been found that ail the means resorted twunder the common law of the land were inadequate to put down such an association, it became Parliament to intrust. more than ordinary powers to his Majesty's Ministers, to enable them to effect that most desirable and indispensable object. The evil now complained of had originated partly in the remissness of Government -with respect to the Catholic body, and still more in the impunity which the political leaders there bad been so long suffered to enjoy. With respect to another Bill which it was understood to be the intention of the Noble Duke at the head of the Government to propose, he (the Earl of Mansfield) would not form any conjectute or attempt an anti cipatiou of its contents, but contented himself with saying, that when that measure came be. fore their Lordships, he would consider - it with his best attention; and he entertained a confident hope that, as his opinions were unaltered on the subject of Roman Catholic diva' ilities, so his vote, notwithstanding the force of recent examples, would be in complete unison with his reviousle expressed sentiments. Noble Lords bad been recommended :o repose with unlimited COLfidence on the Noble Duke (Wellington); and if it were merely a reliance upon - the good fortune that ge nerally attacked • to that distinguished individual that was required, no man could have a more implicit, he had almost said, superstitious confidence in the N.bble Doke than himself; but, brilliant as had been the for tunes of that illustrious person in his military capitally, he (the Earl of Mansfield) feared that his political suc cess, in this instance at least, would cot equal his former triumphs. It he could believe that the Bill for the ad mission of Roman Catholics to Parliament would con tain such conditions as the Catholics would not acce e t, and that the evil could be thus put off for a little, then he would not be satisfied, for. such a Bill could not pau ithnut an abandonment of the principle of the ex clasion f the Roman Catholics from Parliament, which he considered an essential principle of our Protestant Constitution. The Duke of WELLINGTON said, that having already troubled their Lordships once thin evening with an rept ession of his sentiments on this subject, he would not now detain the House for any length of time, nine particularly to adverting to a measure not at present before Pailiament,tut which be should have the honour hereafter to submit to its consideration. He could as sure the Noble Lards that when this measure was brought forward, their Lordships might rely on it they would find it brought forward in such e manner by his Majesty's Miniesees, and so complete in itself, as to be calculated, to attain its objects without any of the drawbacks or inipediments to its operation which his - Noble friend bad adverted to. He now rose principally for the purpose of assuring the Noble Lord that he was very much mistaken it he suoposed that serious efforts Asti not been made by his Majesty's Government, in 'she c-urse of last year, to suppress and put an end Co an Association of which the Noble Lord and every body else complained. The fact was, caws were sub. mined not only to the Crown lawyers in Ite'and, but to the legal advisers of the o , ..Setbll3oot in this country, I with a view to ascertain whether - any steps could . be: taken under the existing law, the. Convention Act, or the common lavoicif the lend, to put down the R , man Catholic Association? and the result of the opinions the law .officers of .tbe Crowe was to produce a con. viction on the minds of his hl t jesty's setvants that it would not be judiCioos to make any attempt to proceed against the Association. Under the circumstances of the case, Ministers had no alternstive, except to come. down to Parliament, and ask it to invest his Majesty with new powers, to enable• him to suppiess this body. In the course of the address which he hod made t their Lordships, on the occasion of moving the second reading of the Bill now before the House, he had stated the circumstances attending the measure adopted for the suppression of the Catholic Association in 1825, and also mentioned the causes of its failure, which arose, not only from the deficiency of the law, but from the 'division subsisting in the Government and the Par liament on this subject, and the difference of opinion existing betsseen this and the other House of Pattie. spent on all questions Meting Ireland. These divisions, which. in his opinion had more than any thing else occasioned 'the existence of Vie Roman Catholic Association, and c•intiiblued to the growth of the evil complained of in that country—an evil, which 'yenned,. placed Ministers tauter the necessity of considering the whole stare of Ireland, and WA commending the adoption' t f measures necessary to being it to what he might call a state of civilized society—those divisions were productive of the most injurious effects. Nothing was to be feared in die way of rebellion, nothing in the way of foreign war, or of any of those dangers calculated to create well. grounded apprehensions of this sort in the minds of his Majesty'S Government; but the state ► f society was not w be. remedied by any other means than representing to his Majesty the necessity of recommending Parlia ment to take into consideration the whole state of I.e. land, with a view to the removal of R man Catholic disa'bilities. These reasons induced him (the Duke of Wellington) and others of his Majesty's Ministers to act as they did, and influenced them in the recommenda• tion they had submitted to his Majesty previous to the meeting of Parliament on this subject, which recom mendation his Majesty had been graciously plea ed to adopt; and accordingly the subject was introduced in the Speech from the throne. Lord CALTHORPE observed, it had been said that the Roman Catholic Association was the offspring of the resistance that had been offered to the Roman Catholic Clairol, and he did not deny that fact; but that was only a part of the truth. The strength of the Catholic Association was derived from the circumstance o' tine resistance to the Roman Catholics being not only con sidered by themselves as a grievance, but from its being declared to be such by a considerable part of the Legislature. With respect to the inevnt he felt sorry, considering the ungracious aspect it amused, that Ministers had had recourse to it. He could not but regret, that many Petitions presented on this subject bad been brought forward in such a way, as if it were the intention to overawe Par liament in its decision upon it. Though he would not wish to obstruct or retard the expression of public opinion, yet, considering the nature of this question, and the peculiar opportunities which Parliament possessed for considering it, and the number of-persons of every different shade apolitical sentiment who had concurred there in supporting it, he thought the sub ject in question one of all others the best fitted for Par liament to come to a decision on. He had asiittle doubt that the decision would be favourable. and that when once made, it would be received with universal assent and acquiescence. Lord REDESDALE thought it his duty to oppose the Bill, because it stated that an Association described in the Speech from the Throne, and in the preamble to the Bill itself, as one totally subversive uf all or der, was a society which the common law of the country could ant suppress. As a lawyer, he held that position to be utterly false. The Roman Catholic Association might and would have been suppressed if the law had been duly administered in Ireland. It was true there might have been considerable difficulty in enforcing the law, but the Irish Government never tried to do so. He could not per. mit the Bill to pass into a law without entering , his pro test in the journals against the pi inciples which tt involv-1 ed—namely, that an Association such as that in question was got contrary to and punishable by the common law of the land. One further observation—the Asses-. ciation was only a tool in the hands of the Roman _Catholic priesthood, and except the latter could be kouipet into a state of obedience and submission to the Government, attempts like the present were per-' firctly• useless. He must take every. opportunity of censuring the enormoes power possessed by the Irish priesthood,—a power abvstut-ly Without con. Afoul- here,—a power acting under f rsign irfluence Against the law of the land and the spirit of the Constitution. Unless the Noble Duke had some measure of coercion in view against the priests, every other measure which he could devise for the be ar& of Ireland most be null and veld. With respect 40 the Bill passed in 1825, for the suppression of the Roman Catholic Association. it was, undoobtedly, a eery tiolish Bill, and the. Association told the Govern.' mint it' was a vs ry foolish Bill. The Noble and Learned Lord concluded by again expressing his determinatiOn, tO place on the Journals of the House a statement of the roots& on which he bad resisted the Bill, which con- Mond an absolute libel on the common laseof the land. The Earl of ELDON said he would take an early opportunity of perfectly satisfying every body that it was not his fault that while he was Chancellor the corn axon law of the land had not been resorted to, for the purpose of putting down the Roman• Catholic Associa tion. He preferred postponing the proof to another cc cation, as a Noble Lord, whom he could wish to see present whe' be introduced the subject, was not then sa his lace. The p S was then read . a _ sod passed. Adjoerned at a Quassia Pass Erma dli Thursday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Colonel =THORPE presented two Petitions from Marla against the Wickeant Navigation &U.—Referred to the Committee on the SU Lend LOWTHER moved for leave to bring in a 1111 to make a Rall-ruad between Carlisle and Newcastle.—Leave :dusted. CATHOLIC CLAIMS. Sir R. VYVYAN presented several Petitions, from Pen:ince, Truro, Bothnia, Launceston, and several other parishes in the county of Cornwall, against con cession to the Roman Catholics.. The Petitions were signed by between eight and nine thousand persons, freeholders and other inhabitants of the county of Cornwall. In the prayer of these Petitions he (Sir R; Vyvyan) concurred. They came not from illiterate and unenlightened persons, but from a community well informed in religion, and which had the advantage of , the burn( tines of Wesley . and other eminent teachers. The petitioners were persons qualified to form a judg.- ment upon this important ! quest i on .. They were .att desirous of excluding any class of their feUoStrsubjectie, from the advantages' of eiVII - aiid"rilitgiOns liberty; they were not anxious to prohibit 'toy person's- frtm ., tbird tieu worshipping their Gs, in whatever manner they sigh t think proper, but they were _adverse to. an, ft ingement being made on the Constitatlr a t t let g, by t'se admission a t Roman Catholics to politi cal I power Ile depict iced the doctrine that had bests pto pu gated soinewle-re, that there was anything effecting th c tights of 'the Therms:l to prevent the admission 0 / Roman Catholics, if Parliament, the Cunen e an d t i ll Supreme Authorities.in the Empire should tutu, in the extensMb of political power to them. At the sain t time the Petitioners, with whom he concurred, had a . tight to rarest their adverse opinion to such comes., sion. They were unwilling to sanction the admission of persons who acknowledged, as the Roman Catholictl did, an aethotity superior to the King, and the eli e , fence of a power on earth between their King and their Gon(Hear, hear). The Hon o urable Meta* wive. ded to express his admiration m f the Duke id Wellington; but great as was his admitatiln of bh talents and gratitude for his services, he should ant dictate to the peoi le. H was surnen e, it *45 tes ta in his authority as Minister. The Administration was regulate., by the “ sic volo, sic itsheo," that Illusttious Duke. After the conversions *hid ) :I had ve. y recently taken place upon this 'gee d question in the minds of Minis,* s and of othint disclaimed all personal allu ion), lie owned for his part, he had lost the confidence he had in the honant of public men. The c',anges which had t.,ken 'slice could only be put down to the accoent, as they heit ben b y a Right Honourable Gentler:l in (Mr. flOisson), tf miraculous conversions. There were some persons. he • would add, not the Government—but be bel.eved there were some persons who were joined in thar conspiracy to crush tisoliberves el the people, which commenced shortly after the f.4:1 1 llo,..sparte, and 'which prevailed from that day to- the 'present moment, plincspally i n el Fiance and in other C. thislic count , eel.. This conspi. racy had been fosiered by the Jesuit.—an able Class o f men, who were beatified all over the cominent, and a portion of which body was e‘tablisi e.t in this courtly (Hear, hear).—educating some of the risers Catholic Nobility and Gentry, who were to he. if the proposed measure of Concession took place, 'inure Members of e that House. The Hon Isiah!, Member dated tje corn. mrncement of this conspiracy,. in which he stated the Jesuits to be principal actors, to the Congressof Vienna • —it had continued during the Congress 4:f („sybe c h , and lastly its spirit had been manifested at Verona . . The Honour able Member, in conclusion, gave notice that on some future occasion, if not taken up el some other 'Honourable Member, he would bring before the.Huine `the consideration of the Jesuits' euethlishmeits in this .counity.-0.4 the question that the petition lie br ru• ht up, `. Mr. PEND.IRVES differed entirely fiom his Hon. colleague on the subject of the on nimity of the county • of Cogswell upon this que lion. He behoved that ihe • wealth and intelligence of that aunty were einuely favourable to Catholic Emancipation. He.thought that this tact appeared even Item the statement of his H on . ' colleague. who had admitted that the Petitions pre sei.ted from Cornwall upon the subject wet, signed by . only eight or nine thousand persons out of a popslation • ot 2.50,000. If the feeling in she county was so strong as the Honourable Member had asserteds why• had not a county. Meeting been called? The Hon. Member then .went into some details concerning the Meeting which had been hatchets open the subject,and stated that in one plow where &petition lay for signatoreo picture wasezhibited representing the Catholics of Ireland in the act of burning a con•idetable number of the Protestants. Two men had• been brought before a Magistrate for turnip ste.ling, and the fact was clearly proved. The examination had been conduited in the office of the attorney. -who. way clerk . to the Magistrates, and agent for as getting up of the Anti-Catholic Petition. and the men who had been . convicted of felony were solicited to sign, and did sign the Paition after conviction. He thought that themass t of the people in Cornwall, it not excited by the means to which recourse bad been hat!, were well content to ! leave the question in the hands of the Government sod • Parliament, convinced that, if the Roman Catholics. should be admitted to political power, such securities would be provided as would scenic the stability and • • integrity of the Established Church. • Istr.BULLER said he felt convinced that the majority et the property and intelbgenee of theetipoty of Cornwall, as of every other county in England, was favourable .to couceviim.— Great energising had been made in that county to raise theme Popery my, but ft was received with contemptand ridicule by the yeomanry. Mr. HUSKISSON said. his m tive in ii.eng was to eddies' himself to she last topic of the Hon. Gentleman's speck. He seemed . to think that the question aftecsipg the Unman Ca.. drake was not to be measured merely in reference to Ireland, but shmild be viewed as an European question, and was, in fact, only part of a general conspiracy com m ence d at Vienna. It was r uir,k4 ; 'true, that at the Congress or Vienna it had been la id downhan' adore' principle, which in haute ought to regulate European States, that no civil disqualifications should be grounded en religious differences of opinion. This principle was subsequently acted upon in almost slimy part of Europe. It was recognised 1 in the-German States, and in that kingdom of Hanover more immediately subject to the Illunarchy to whom e ft l ot ; they would. he trusted, tte• Indebted •here for a, similar blessiogr It was possible that the Ministers of some great Ahmed/ might net be very friendly to the primari e s of d e m and mews liberty. bemthet the very. sante persons wso. were said to be en. gaged hit Coosoiracy against these principles shostid be desloooate extend them to the Roman 'Catholics of beano, appeared soma what contradictory. He could assure the Hon. /Umb e r (Sir Vyvyan) that in France the party who cheit,hed the drlseats, who • were &skims* to subvert the chatter,.and to get rid of fr.) titans, that very party was the only sine in France which sae s oidi • regret the attempts which were now in progress to pacify by extending to its /initiation the full benefits oftbe C.onstitu r i t This he stated advisedly—(Heir)—and be would add that the party In France which was moat desirous to keep the power df.the Pope within due ilmlikand to discountenance the Jesuit'. were nig party.. who heard with the greatest delight of what was now going to W the Width Parliament with reference to the Catholic. of Imbed. • Sir• R. VIVIAN said, that at 'the Mee ing alluded to by his Ilenourattle Colleague, though the Prtnion was at Ire signed by only the two Clergymen, it subsequently obtained the' Moistures 40 the respectabk inhabitants of the wish. The Psalms. fourteen in number. were then read,„ • 'Tar R. VYNYAN said,. that in Musing that i tbese Petitions bir Sid on the table. he would take that opponent! a saying that. although no Meeting of the County was caked, k did not arise from any apprehension of defeat. There was a AWN( e at the County/roma, in odd& IS Magistrates attended. :Then were two other Maghtrees friendly to concession who opposite: Petition, int she/ failed. He Was glad to hear what had fallen the- Kight•Hen. Gentleman ( Mr. Haskieson) with respect to the .14s wits and mimetic institutions . . A measure to prevent any tblegn that nature Weald remove one of his great objections.. Ho concurled in what had fallen from the Ho. Gentleman near him (Malailer). No penes (Wild his se foolish as to suppose that the Doke of Norfolk, andadwr educated persons of that costunnoloa,. held ibe same opinions so the lower classes, or as the Catholks of Clam Mary's time. site did not hesitate- to say gut be steed be I** !Hippy to sotionan Catholic Peers resume their mats in she lAN HAM of Pallaisitit It was their right to sit there ; but the aces wasfiliterentinlillo Moue—(Hear, bear)—tin which metals to& gledess • to cootie &person to a seat. He maraca Toy mock that lira step taken in eke way .of comes*" was no the mamba a atbeilc Peers to diet. seats. This weskits , * been far better than td take the nation by surprise. With roped * te ML Vilkk •and - Ms. Goverunteit he should only say, Wooed' alight have been Its views. the f3sverninent of this country was is Waite and friendly ioentuden'veitit it. Mr. HUSRMSON Mid he had expressed no °pipit* 44 M. Vilielealiovalinktent, or of obi Other. What herald was grounded merely on his obeervadoits of pamlognvents while on the Coed:kat.. nth* Hossoemble Athena mlied in French society. k *odd be Impolitic for Whot toobserve that the kliegs ef fba lilohls were • ttle4rOka a COI* glikClPfd° l6 - • .neoffered pillittst. • . • • • • Idr . rEND X CYO presented thin Pathless ia facer ....1 • ; *dee!' to b • M,. EGE it Chester at The 'meth Mr. GO • . Tiotroorable 1 sows present rowed the . or the county IMMO, were I racier or ibe t►ere were Ai of very tench deprecate the • sod contest& "tire ready ti • forward by h to Leland ill trued with as Mr. LEY • who bad prey to the petition denied that tht . • runty; trill ine,ting must souuty (Mr . Who of the Ni Sint, eft bide tiles residotts • eeediatig bad th Del; but (cot • ' * Sedan rips ti in in favour of co the (trilla v. Cbaiter) eras t, Mr. 1-IAI Inhabitants of • - biding io cliff% dinverous 'fat Ilicrence of :.• • ; logber Mut' tics of the Jia di/natured, and ft. they world item in Irelant it • toes bodily In Melt two pros ' Colonel Roc supported the • CM the mut issued foe Mt Truro, at mu Tomlye, Rao. I.nrd MM outs of The, fo Suffolk, spina Mr. the palish of I Mr. WRIIN Inhabitants a l'.rishes of At ▪ .nie ctointy. Mr. BOHR of Newcastle Catholick. Mr. LI.OY from the lithal also two I'utin peal of the Bulb verally orderer Mr. BAS T. Clergy, Freebt sg 'lust say fur Member said , ousearrtd in ti (erred to its it I &r THO many of his ft retitiOft. It p alumnus, fur h was agreed on dewily decisive In Noose of petition ms s lion hi that Ile Mr: lIOL spectabllitt satistacston•to I •' , frb• *Me of a . taken_s factiou anal &bowled' able awn, or le Lod EB, throush the co against the Cr one. Nothing forts lad been of the . King at bas anew pro, titer they wo% delusions n u n of the county was so clamor the Member be had sivon .• vindication of Mr. LOF therno* of it on the part of courtly late, there was nu hisbett respect the Catholic a he addressed tl bearing. Sir T. AC Mouse a lktlti tended it, was Mouse. It ws Jhoolitn (atni . ' thotissod two 11110 Pt the only attempted to 'thiguisllid for i Pethrtur tilt ri d pf else etougly, a tad 110 ot tbe C . 16 the seirohat awasitre which The reads's, • • .The iante fit effect front the . 11rint ed. ' Sir T.' LET] purity ',Whose ticork ' Mr. Tit AN' ' front Morcott, IConhamprotisl Mr.WIVI I spravirg 'muse' Alr. OUNC shire, slanrd sheiks. The r tespectahfht . Womb "corm 1 Mi. O'N Nawr roosts =r d. Tt II 'ohm ';deetefternts. 'WNW, or anti loicrover, how , dieklinatares avents.pi the ii `llloutio-tilt to tt of loser with iras with Opt N people of Hall daft a woad 1 elahna from ill that town NM/ Lord. NUG, betweeh hho at Ilr. O'NEU bay, odd so. Mr. DUNC W dined the Ostsjoskas a do snooty of York Lird 1. RUI %odes, Kayla Preleatant Dias Hoene et the 1 ""g aveltter fro Bod