Star. — London, England, 1829-04-08 00:00:00

! to give, give in the spirit of conciliation and . harmony. . He would say to the 11. - sman Catholic, receive with the gratitude which the grant silo great a boon deserves; show that your religion, which has been Ito often de. scribed as a religion of bigotry and intolerancer is id reality a religion of charity and liberality; shoe thif you only sddght to. gOrelnit and prolteted by the la •v !Vali y with your Protestant fellow-subjects; show chit yoti are sensiblect the value of the same Comas yod are nal only ssible: of the value of it, but chit. you understand its nature, its landmarks, turd'its beauty. Thee, indeed, he thought this Bill, so far from eel:Nei/fang the security of the State,. would strenitbeff it agisitiU all rite machination of its itieedee; then, indeed, might his Noble Friend say - that he had brought forward a measure width would ensure the peace and tranquillity of the country—then might he lay down his head upon his pillow, and feel a full com pensation for the sacrifice of his time, the nail:* of his feelings, and he hoped he might not add, the 'seri , fice of his corporeal health. He felt that he bad occu pie,i too muck of their Lordshipetime ; but he so rarely took' the liberty of addressing them that he was sore they would excuse him. He had already voted for going into a Committee on this Bill, but he mast repeat what he had before said, that if in the Committee sufficient securities were not provided with the Bill, he should be unable to extend to it his farther support. The Earl of CLANCARTY said that he had fre quently offered himself to their Lordships attention, and had not found an opportunity of addressing them, and he now rejoiced that he ,had not procured a hear ing; for, though he had much to say, his sentiments had alteady been expressed by other Noble lords in language much more forcible than any he could make use nf; but there was one subject which had been but sliAbtly touched upon—he meant the time Ind occasion 01 passing the present Biil. He had himself at all tinsel been des rows that when the proper time and occasion should arrive, the remaining disabilities under which the Catholics labour should be taken into the considers. t on of t'c Legislature, with a view towards their 'vat, as far` as could be done consistent with the se curity id the 1 1 .0 e.txnt Constitution and the Protestant C4torch ; bat, so diarently di.l circumstances act upon different minds, that the reasons which hid been urged for the removal of those disabilities at present w-re, in his opinion, the very reasons which should prevent their . removal. The violent and outrageous conduct of the Raman Catholics—he said the Roman Catholics, for a great number of them had taken part in the proceed ings of the Association ; all had acquiesced, and none had remonstrated against them—that conduct, so far from producing the same effect upon his mind as it had on the minds of other Noble Lords, had even weakened the desire he had bad of making further con cessions. Ile had always agreed with that great states man, who had laid down two positions as necessary to . precede the introduction of this measure. The first- wai the good bthaviour of tile Catholics, which would show that it was safe to pass the measure; the next was, and indeed it must be a consequence of such good behaviour, the anxious desire of the whole nation that it should be passed. He drought that neither of these at present ex isted ; run ;he contrary, the very reverse was the ease. Ile th.nght their Lordships wool - it! agree with him that' the Catholic A.sociation, that misbegotten monsters h id never been opposed in its proceedings—that it had never been effectively resisted by those authorities which his Majesty had sent into Ireland—and in laser ti ova it had nut only not been opposed, but absolutely encouraged by the bush Government. He hoped their Lordships would pardon him, but, if he recollected right, the Noh!e Marquis who had spoken, he believed, on the second night • f the debate, and who had lately presided over that country, had very indignantly pleaded not guilty to the charge of having encouraged theßomatiCatholic Association. He wt' uld ask the Noble Marquis, and he reqiiested him on some future occa sion, on this day, if he was so disposed, to give an Passer to the qoestion which he now proposed, whe. Cher be had not esescisrd the highest prerogative of the Crown in liberating an officer of that Association from • punishment to which he bad been condemned? He seculd ask, what was the case of that liberation—what was the nature of the report which he had received with regard to that individual's health—whether it had been favourable-or otherwise—whether any arrange ment had been made with the physicians—whether any apology had been made to those respectable Magis trates of lbe county in which he resided, and who had been grossly libelled—and whether any security was given that these should be no recurrence of the cir cumstance ? He believed the individual to whom be alluded was a Diplomatic Agent or Envoy from the Catholic Association to this country. lie had taken the liberty of mentioning the circumstance in a letter to the Chief Secretary far Ireland, and he was told that the Irish Goveinmert were responsible lir what was done. Ile begged their Lordships to recollect what the con duct of the Government had been with regard to that body for the last six years. Had not the most unac-' countable apathy prevailed ? Had not his Majesty's authority been placed in abeyance? He had almost said it had been ahricated in Ireland. The consequence was, that that monster, the Association, had grown up to such a size that it had astonished even those who nurtured it. A proclamation had been issued offering the highest reward for sedition. Under these circum stances he thought the present Act would be most per nicious. It would leave all the mischief without doing any good. It did not in airy way grapple with the evil. He was, however, as anxious as the Noble Doke him eel( could be that this 818 would answer the intention for which it was designed, and when it should have passed, and pass he knew it must, he would show his sincerity by using every effort and all the itifluerhe lie possessed in Ireland to bring about the intentions of it, and secure the tranquillity of the, count, y. The Marquis of ANGLESEY would not presume to point out the course which the Noble Lott, should have taken; but if he had any accusation to make against any or their Lordships, instead of coming (load with a string of questions which it was almost impossi. ble for any one to be prepared to answer at once, he should have had the courtesy to give some wiitt tice before he would have proceeded with this accusa tion. It appealed to him that the course which the Noble Lord had taken wires waste of time; but il, after the greet measure under their Lordships consideratimi were disposed a f (for until that was dont he would antes into no explanatiowwith regard to his conduct). the Noble Lord should be disposed to put the questions to him either with regard to, his having liberated Mr. Eneas *Donn 11 from prison, or any other matter connected with his administration in Ireland, be should not only ansf‘er the Noble Lord, but thank him far , wining him an opportunity of entering• into an expla nation of the course which he conlidered it his duty tb pursue. The Doke of WELLINGTON said: that, althoogh it might not be the duil of the Noble Marquis to answer the vies/ions proposed by. his Noble Friend s yet he (the Duke of Wellington) lcl it his duty, as being a party to the measures referred to, to reply to him, He to remind hit Noble Friend that the reasons „tr.: gave for bringing in the plant =tante, resultiuffeell the elite of Ireland, were paramount to any considerait done referring to theconduet of the Catholic Anode. lion, or generally to the Roman Catholics of Ireland. Thole raison, had reference to the peace and security of the State. The former might have been sacrificed if he bed done nothing—the latter, if be het) taken those extreme measuhet which some Noble Lords seemed to reecimiebod. Hit Noble Friend seemed to have left entirely oat of his consideration the Bill to put dowh the Catholic Association,which had been passed a month ageit To this Bill the Aubciatiod bad' already Whetted, and it now ;to longer existed . : But when the Nobli Lord stated that that body received encouragement kom the Government he produced as-a proof of it the pardon which the Grevermeent hat extended to a Gen tlemen who had' been impritoned for a libel: The fact was that this Gentleman had beep imprisoned, and the report which was given of the state of his health was such, that it appeared his life would have been sacri ficed if he was suffered to contintein ebnfinement. He (the Duke of Wellington) coaddered that under these circumstances his Majesty's servants 'Would not hay done their duty if they had not ordered his release,. fie begged pardon if his Noble Friend war private" ins' (crested in this Gentleman's confinerhent ; but his Mm jetty's servants had a public duty to perforni, and would have been responsible, especially the Noble Marquis e ' if they had not taken the course they did. Hating said, so much, he hoped their Lordships would not be troubled with Ay more questions of this description,Which could only interrupt the business of the House, to which ther had do reference. He would now answer sortie °hierr vations which had been made by his Noble Friend (the Duke of Rutland), far whom he bad a high respret,and. whose speech he had heard with great admiration. • U hiscouldtdo 'any thing which would gratify his Noble Friend, he would certainly do it; but he most beg to remind his Noble Friend, that there was no such thing known in the British Constitution as the office of him* Minister. The First lend of the Treasory generally performed the duties of that office, and so he thought he ought for several reasons, which was not now neces sary to explain. The Lord of the Privy Seal, or any other of his Majesty's Ministry, might, in fait, holdthir office ' the duties of which were not defined, and could' not, of course, be guarded against by Act of Parliaa meat. The provisions of the Bill are, that these offices generally embracing ecclesi4Sfitai patronage; were not to be held by Raman Catholic's. Lord COLVILLE was ex. tern. lr one Mina to obtrude himself on their Lordship. attention, but as this was the only opportunity which he brad of expressing his opiditni, and, as he might, perhaps, never again me . to addreis their Lordships, he could not content himself with giving a silent vote. He would have gone any length, or done any thing, to have influeheed their Lordships to abstain from the ptesent Measure; but the feeling of this was different. It scented decided that the measure was to be carried, and he hoped it would do good. He was slay that on this occasion he stood opposed to those Noble Lord( With whom belied 'belle acted, and for whose opinions he bad the highest respect. He did not allude to the Noble Duke, for he had nd claim to the honour of his friendship; bet ante were those Noble Lords whose friendship, on private arid political grounds, he Should be sorry to lose. He and those who thought with him on this question might perhaps be deficient in talent. He bad not joined with the young talent of the eobntry, which bid been so much spoken of, but be was proud of joining the banoeri of the experienced politicians of the country. He should never have opposed this Bill if he saw any compensation in it fair what they were to grant; but he thought they Were about to make a great sacrifice stilh no certain equivalent. He thought this measure would leave behind more Catholic questions, and, what was worse, more Catholic agitators, and, though they Might yield to what they considered necessity, he denied the honour or consistency of pursuing this course. With regard to those Noble Lords who bad constantly, consistently, and honour ably advocated this measure, he confessed hke envied them that this dieattne, to the success of Which they bad devoted, their lives, was about to be achieved; and he lamented that that great man who had fallen a victim to it, and bad descended into his 4rave on Ac count of hit anxiety to pass it, was not living to winien its success. For his own past, he felt himself bound to oppose the Medial:o to the utmost, but he should not again raise his voice. He could not say that any new light had broken in open his mind on the subject, irrid he would refer their Lordships w the Tait speeCh %Aids the late Lord Liverpool had delivered on this subject in confirmation of his opinion —(Tate Noble Lord here read an extract frost a speech of tete Earl of Liverpool, declaring his opinion that, as loog as the if.tedi continue to be Protestant, it was essential that the' Throne and the Legislature should be Protestant).i4f this Bill should pass, he thought Great Britain *Mild no longer tie Protestant. Ti.e evil Might not be Wine diate. but it would be il e ei . abl e . The Lail of LONGFORD. althotigh he was avride . ' the subject hid been vet y hilly discussed, cod)J not give a saint vote. n the subject. Froth (he coentatate ment he had con ; is ently, conscirniiuusly, and sted fastly opposed this measure: He disapproved of the marber in which it had been intvdsted, and he dig approeid of the ha to with which it bid, been ptessei upon them—he disapproved of having taken the coun try by surprise, for, whatever might have keen laid of the couture being prepared for it, hO (*Used Mite tenths of the Member: df PJrliadiloit , Ind ninety dins i out of every hundred of tho 4 Farliatifient, did net expect that this intiasnee would be introduced. He acquitted his Noble Bastion altogether of any such frdertiiort. He was ateire Olt the ineaable hail been agitated in various P.iliaMents, bui it seas agitated wader very different ciicumatances than it resent. It lied before been br_iaght in by the Whigs. But who Wire the Whigi? Were thej not distipproeed of *bile jib ofbie, led dislifted if hen Out of it ?. At pieseitt the eisea-ure was to be carried in a c , mpuliOry manna, and ,the Jtd not mean any thing distespectful by the tam) Bite bete to tot self:lipped bf Hii tfiryttititi Nos Pr tiidtrd on ilia idintiatitOle 0:n4'01,011i in a r a rit • tesiant State floinan Catholics should possess no poli tical power. The present measure was a g teat innota.' tion, and it ought not to be effected without the con sent of the country. Their had no duty sd stiongli iniumbet-t on theM as the tuff of arresting its poke's. The Catholic: had been dedirdiled of all power by laws which Viet thceight tieret; it wal but ni4fuiiil they shbiild Wish lb kigiih it. Flo/ himself he did not fear die would heiothe POpish again, rir that he should ever see ti , e Pope ori flit tvorilsaek ; but the i.bjeet of the Cs:holies was to iegalit the peliilE4l tagdgiat aisles they had lOit. From ibisresoftesi the din er cif adiiiitting deli to poser in the tate. Ile objected to Popery on eal gintstitfihe lodlied do tht< C4thdlie Church salmi di b drat IMMO istiff MK Ifs thd light of a tell= glens corporation; it wee not subject to tie of the Sus, Wag it s u bjected the tadiotii hity Wit; owa power through the influence of the clergy. Why I glie prriver to such a body ? Dld three it by ' their pest conduct or present eroffilssionst Look to thee conduct and the con'tlitet the'Catholie Association,' thtfir declaration of abkdrreate ofthe Church,. and their dtOtigss' of effecting a separation. It had been wild. that thteitholics had a setraratelintetest, beelsesarthey were 'landed from political power ; but the fact was, that. they wire excluded because they had a political interest not merely separate from the State but hostile to it. He had-no hostile feeling against individual Catholics,. but he knew their religious opinions were immutable , and admitted no interference on the part of the State. For these , reasserts he wes•bpposed to the , Bill. The Bishop of LLANDAFF said it was a subject of pain to: hiltto•difrcie on this qbestion front. Many os his Rev. Brethren on' thtbetteli. Irwat atm t rain to hist% a. a Bishop. to dilfrr from the snajotity of the community to which. he belonged'. If he thought their opinion was correct hit pain would be greater; Writ' was.consider ably mitigated by the reflection that the public mind was labouring under a delution on' the' tru character of the. measure before the House, though tens of thou' sands h.d presented petitions against it. He bet sieved they signed them under a false impression that it was calculated to wbrk a change on tie religion of the country; that was e: rota too pal pable to requite refutatiel. It had been used as an argument against this Bill that it was founded on ex pediency, as'if eipedkney' mutt be necessarily opposed ttreashrs, jostler, atof religion'. Nirte-tenths of the Acts of their Lordships Mile began with " whereas it was expedieet.* The present question wrayboa religious one; inasmuch as' it ienolved die interest. of religion; but it certainly was not's theoretical one. The Bitt meditated no change in the doctrines, faitf, or discipline of the P.a. testant Church; nor any appinximation between the Church of England and that of It.tine.which we It'd de clared corfopt. It was &great, en old,andotten exit! .ded error to say that theCatlsolics were excluded from power on account of their corrupt religiour docti ines ; yet able writers had lately attempted toinllanse the public mind by dwelling on the corruptions of the' Catholic religion, and adding that, in admittidg Catholic's to poster. we: were associating. idolaters rsith the State. Toast was not the fact. Roman Catholics, in their general. religion, *outdo* be justly called seperstirions 61 1 idolatroes—. the asseftiOn was ntijostifiable. The Protestant Church' acknowledged . that Roman Catholics were members of d* Church of Grilse. W. admitted their bapti+m add theitotdinititstr; id feet, if wstthrirogh them that. Christi anity was t. to the Protestant Cho« h. The present question was not one cf religion, but of policy. , It was not necessary to exclude the Catholics. kora seateiti Parliament on the round that teligiou. , interests may be brourit int 6 &cession; lor" if had • been ascertained, on inquit y, that the religiou qireetionw discussed in Parliameat did net amount to one teeth of the whole number of Parliamentary questions. Ile would not no that 6ce4qtre g' kite w kitten ical'avt* I • ( the penal law*, after& g tl;e Catiwili : cs. Thew laws were not neces.nry not lAngrer.. and it became a ques tion of portel Wm. ells intro holing to re.nowee those galling feelsit:tiofle.hoes'thlittt feffeeNebjecrs; As to the assertion that the'Cl.triai 'of Ireland woul4 be en dangered by the measure, be believed that thiChurch of Ireland would remain united with the Church of England while Ireland continued united with England. In the words of a solemn ceremony of the Church, we of the Church of England may say of the Church of Ireland, is we have teams her for better for wot se, for 'richer for poorer, in sickness and in health," and we were bound .to support her weakness by our strength. Where, then, could be the danger to the Church of Ireland While she was united to the Church of Eng land ? And how could the Church of England be en dangered while the King sas bound br la w to be of the Protestant faith? The Learned Pt elate concluded expressing his approbation of the Bill. The of LINCOLN and BRISTOL opposed rise MIL Lart il l i t e rNYON said that, although it was imporsible feet him t-r hope to be able to say arty thing new upon this Mbject, yet he could dot, consi.tentty *kb his sense of duty, remain silent. The motives the Nahle Duke had assigned for bringing forward this measure might, no doubt, be very satisfactory to himself, bet to him Chet tippea'red highly unssitisfactott. Upon the grounds the Noble Diiki had stated, the present was a measore which might have been proposed at any time within these fivessind-twenty Yeats, and there was hardly any tither time aktehich it miglft not have been brought forward With gteater advantage to the Protestant Es tablishment. The manner, too, in which it had been brought forward, *at highly prejudicial to the interests of theconntry, and had excited the dined:face of of the great majority of the people. He repeatathat it had rx cited the dissatisfaction of the great majority of the potpie. From what diitant parts of Scotland and Ire land had they not received exprenkins of dissatisfaction At the instinct' in *filth the measure was brtoght (Or val d ? The private accounts be had received also wars tented him in iiying that dissatisfaction and disgust gideral througlmot the country. The Noble Duke (Wellington) seem dto think that this measu r e would have the effect of tranquill , n'ng Ireland, and the lal sified fears expressed at the true of the U..ion with Scot land were brought I. rward as an arguineit its stepson of the hope enteltaided by tire Noble Duke. But there *Ere seietal vtiy gtiod seasons why a onion, such as Jas now contemplated with Iceland, would not have the sane beneficial elects as bad been produced by that *rth Scotland. The chief reason why the same harmony ihdrild prdeail between Great Britain and Ireland as there had been between England and Scotland was, that the religion which we found prevalent in Scotland was the eitablished (elision of the county, and the priesthood had nothing to contend fat; whilst in behind the faillen of the majori'y was not the established re ligion of the country, and its priesthood bad an interest in keepentaN4e Bat then it was said that the Cathefic Astoefetion Mini be (got rid of at any price, and the Noble Duke seemed to thank there as no other way of doidg it than 6Y liking its embitters and incor- porating Mena the Legislature of the country, and making them parties,as it vrere,to the measure necessary for the eftildish meet of the King's authority in Ireland. NOW, on thif pniht bb did tiot think the connuy bad ban Atilt faiii7 viith, foi the Government bad not ex erted kith ; to put down the Association. He did not Mean to thirge the Noble Duke specially (*singly iikh thik lbattention to the interests of- the country,for he thotighi the same blame Vial imputable toad the other Governments, more or less, that see had had for some year' pan. Other Government% however, had not tali *diming. of their misconduct to justify a on other pounds, itai not justifiable it all. the Noble Marquis (Anglesey) who spoke at the table told them that behold power sufficient at hi? ebnittikbd tO 1111,1 pet deem the Catholic AssOciatiou, had did GOVerfilNetit at hblhe directed him to do toe : - HO*, i jis a, could ilieGriverninent defend itself io , thwitbs possibility 6f putthigdalin the Association, audit:mein* Phis Mbet ellNl ft laatile althea MpcO theni ? He felt the ifittliketotl elidil CO tge &atilt( ' . k s confident iii► wpttitiSle tat it iliould effect the benefit pce.edw.ithe tranquillizaloo of telande flow et. k rumble to imagine that five rainiest); f Catholics wow,' Ise satisfied with theextent to which this Bill went, Pl an it was clear it would cooler no real benefit on the s nit of the people? When they shall have fodnd that all thP expects i ins of comics t and enjoyment held oat bp them as the consequences of passing this Bill ac re mill as far from them as ever, would not that large imp,. latinir be still arvaileble foralf - thepurposeaof mi sc hi e f s in which their priests and the "agitators, who,e obj ect would be by no means gained by this Ball, might choo se to direet - them? There am onerpoitte more to which hr bet; god m direct - the , • Lord sh ips' attention b e in ie he sae down; It relatedtrr the coronation oath. Th aw whoihad stated.that they thought thin measure w e ld riouirays consistently with the coronation oath haebe w calledcoponito state whethee they persevered in ami s . tainiorthat opinion.? He did• for cur.—inch when am oaths was in , quraticio, thought`no argumra td• exp o , diency r for that was lonely all they had. heard ape. the subject,- should he allowed income in. Accentual to the ptinciples of the Protestant faith. iic.htt %i m a m ; an oath once taken could not be. violated. trim anf principle of expediency. He woold not say that se inecessitravight nut pacify a m an . i n b rea k ing through an oath ; but the necessity ought precisely and dire:racily Ps be inadwocu--nught, in short, t•, b e t Re , cessity whirl , eves y man could see. Necessity and ea. , pediency were widely different it their ptincipks; no expediency justified the breaking of air path, whil4 neces,ity might ccmprt it. By his cororiatscat ioath hia Majesty bound himself to preserve the .Piote.tant inn • terests of this country. Now„how be mulch .ceolisteroly with the spirit of that oath r give his coo, en( so a f bea. non which must raise up a powerful enemy soothe Protestant, establishment, he ( Lord. Keay°. ) co u ld ne t i nneg i„ e , No person who considered the sacred ot.liptioui of as oath, and the masons for which his Majesty s fainily had bees placed t•. on the throne, could say that ihe paw, / of the present Bill was consistent with the spirit of use co. marina oath.. The House then resolved Wel! foto the Committee —.0 0 t h e preanaile being read, ' Lord lt EDESDALE considered that the bm.efit to be expected Wont this 'stemma was the br eves theCathotie Clergy somewhat from under the corniest of the Pope, as the Catholic Ovary and Noblemen vito came ituo Parliament would necessarily have some is. fi.ieriett oveethens. Any amendmeut he should hem. tier propose would hot the increase of this seFority for its; obleet. Ilie• preamble was thaw' agreed to. Oa she Ara clause - bast read, L rd FARNHAM thought this clause contained the essence of the Hill, as it contained the derlaratios which formed the only bulwark elected against thead• iwission of the Homan Catholics into Parliament, dad I therefore thought that upon this clause alone the goat principle of the Bill might be argued. lie would set entsr into the question as to whether or w t the oitbs were an essenti it part - of.the settlement at the•lleirklui. (ion of 1688. I had been argued in debate whether the Room( Catholics sere excluded boas the Comtitutim on religious or civil grosiodt? For his . part, he thous* they were excluded ow both accounts, for he, thought the religion of the Catholics could not be separated from their politics*--(Heac, hear). He would not eons into the question cf how far it was fit that P.apists should have the administration of a notestaot county, nor would he now deny that it was necessary for a man to profess Christisnity to bare the govermliem of the country, or that be might not be a Mahone tan; but he. would contend, that all the professes of a religion which disturbed the relations between man and man shoultinot be employed in the adniieir tration of a country thnshalority of whose inhathitam professed a different religion. Now, the religion pee fessed by the Ralson Catholics did intake* too much with the temporal affairs of a country. iHe did am speak of . those Roman Catholics who, like some Pio. tenants, would find any religion sit so loosely opoa them as to be said to have fibetal principles, but of the religion of a cOnltinit^ons Roman Catholic. Of such a Roman Catholic duti it :as the ly to oppose the interests (.1 'be Established Much to the utmost of his pewee. The oath which the nest :clause obliged the Catbelie to take was no solid security, for it was an oath of opinion, which might change every day. It had been said that the union between the Churches of England and Ireland was indissoluble; but hum what tell the oche, nightfrom the Reverend Lord who ta,sraltr tit near the Woolsack, it would appear that si , divesce was by so means impossible. The fri.h Chute's, Este. blishment was in imminent danger; and in another place the ether night. a proposition was made to ccisifii care its reveals, b at the very moment it was being de fended in that House. Indeed, so ready did its eoetnies seem to pounce upon their prey, that they would hardly wait till it had received its death blow. Supposing there were only fifty Members now in the other Hoes* f Parliament willing to confiscate the revenues of ibe frisk Church, was it to be supposed that they, joined to fifty. Catholics, would not be able to compel any Aci• ministration to do what they pleased ? The Noble Lord was Foe, eding to observe on the Dish anchisement Bill, when. Lord HA R DWICY spoke to order, sod reminded the Nobk Lord that they were in Committee, and that be had been spathes es the principle of the Bill ever since be had risen. ' Lord FARNHAM contended that as the first enaw fog clause contained the essence of the Bill, he had • Might to enter into it most fully. The Noble Lord thee proceeded to argue that the tranquillity of heland aas not likely to be restored by this Bill on account of the disfranchisement of the forty shilling freeholdeis. Irked the Dish agitator* had pledged themselves to•inake subject for agitatitlai. He dad not mean to deny that the Government had acted rightly in making the in's sur e one of complete concession. If they thought the mea sure proper, they were right in not legislating by halves; but, as be thought it an improper measure, he shoed oppose it. Tbe llitaryth of Lexammaar and the Bari *of idianneserie 'whined. The Earl of ELDON said, that unleef he too had changed his opinion, it was impossible for him to eddies the House to any effect, as be could only repeat his ob jettlons to this Roman Catholic Relief B,U. The Noble and Learned Lord then read the preamble 'of the Bill, sad said that be objected to it; and to the eery first past to she dimming clause it was impossible be could agree. After declaring that Roman Catholics seed not tike dye Oath of supremacy, nor subscribe the declarations airtime transubstantioo, the invocation of saints, and the sacra• latent of the mass e for the purpose of sitting in Parliament, or holding any office in the State—this clause, and owl ether clause in theßill was open to the same objectinnstbag le respect to the supremacy of the Crown of Eaglaid every Protestant was still bound to take the Oath ef Supremacy. No man could take the oaths their Loa' Ships bad taken, and accettat for it satisfactorily to his awn mind, if he voted for this Bill, according to his (Lowl .E.'s) view.of the oath.. He hefted their. /..ordahiPs recollect that the great . Lord heft ed bad ear stated that " Parliament bad as good a right to this Bill of Rights as the Statute requiring the Saiiredtitt. But bf t6Zs 11111-the Protyvtaat wad stal moil to Urged 'froto sod the s• 1 man Cattio idolatress. Stutete . of • entered iota widths tt , e Os id flesh the Bill if' wear say, t the Church of that Act to three Or • certain cent were stout ''thought tb. peither mar Right Bev. the pi otessol though eve, • tbsciartd, in 'elision to b tot aware ol out referents tiny Sveor si by its comini circumstance lionssn Cult the House of Oath of Sup pitted idolsti all, they peel per sous and bars of the I of the Nous theist bhtul But be. mei • met Ws 'et nee bis Neje cell& on hi was bound ti Coronatioa, by which tl Catholic teli the Roman I of Commons • their letimios main after • pretest tot at said, and sai, -Bishop, thst Church, If '►IM. he Torciu • 4kom his reg T4Ctelr. II 11,1 Chula of ' Church. am • .Christia n Ca Casholie CAL ite uthre nal would be su found that th gion inferior testant Chugs or its numb* they would • gre l t bini sfic pioceedinp.s t preached In 1 suck a panes% . 11l it now stood supremacy of tiwir Lin &Aril —into all the shavredthat tl declared the swat raeogaiss He hippied tl of him while his oath swot piesuair to al who mould prim ipla had Salon ancftti he would nevi he would ma act as houeml could act fol meat ancient when be had was aeitnowl, whether it wj that oath he the exceHeno • f Its uottri putliy wouli the menthess de act acki if h tint t that tou.irre served. that jeets-..fie lithey drnie. r .ised attalm beta* on and their path, a '.-.that aright . 1 'opinion.. ow ' etitef.r tit," intiffi. of *um tbenr let 'Obi Chit tibia thee' al the i topic 'Cktucb wlll.l und that th subjrc.t e vs o ject?.., Ile at both. In a 1 potted the 14 tholics. beta tattiest, of wet ely were *sent to be . 8;004 iib tut, lie td, ey in the ortindi .feeltegv Lehi •Vinkinal bn tl • diefst and r oild. TI;r1 •thr Roman Ibbject to plat odhce then to be inn tabu Set HS retained I open tivttf 0 intibu. to be mewl n He could no as it stood at .Pass ble • .