Star. — London, England, 1830-02-10 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS. notice COM. the Mr. D. W. HARVEY moved for a return of the number of persons holding stock in the public funds , specifying the sum pos sessed by each, and stating the amount of dividends payable thereon. Ordered. AIL O'CONNELL presented several petitions from parishes in Cork, complaining of the vestry and subletting acts. The honour able member, after referring to the cases of the petitioners, for the purpose of showing the great abases practised in levying of vestry rates in parishes where a very small number of the inhabitants are Protestants, concluded by giving notice of Ms intention to move for the repeal of a portion of the act of George the Second, in order to enlarge the power of the King's Bench in granting a esandatmts, where the parishioners apply for it and complain of the levying of such rates.—The petitions were then ordered to be printed.. CHANCIBILY. On the motion of Mr. D. W. HARVIT a return presented last year, of the number of eases unheard in the Court of Chancery, and of the amount of property belonging to the suitors, was ordered to be printed. ♦TtAIRI OP PORTUGAL. Lord PALMERSTON gave notice of his intention to submit a motion to the house relative to our relations with Portugal, on Thursday, the 18th instant. ....„ Int. . . .• , .. ?" 1 . 1 - --1: 1 . i t. t k's.7.ygLi ka. ' 4111 ' , • 1 _ b . I noble duke with regret. and on that occasion opposed I. • ". r• ' . of public duty. The noble lord had better move • - :. for an inquiry into the distress of the country. He fully concurred with the noble lord as to the distress of the agricultural poor, and Wt t •eved it to be so bad that it could not long continue. Lard TEYNHAM then withdrew his motion, and gave notice t.: ..t. he would, on Tuesday, the 20th of April, move for a cam- Loma of the whole house to inquire into the administration of the pew hwe.—Adjourned at HALF-PAST Sr:. LUNATIC ASYLI7MB. Mr. R. GORDON, after observing that the act of the ninth of George IV. hail, by some mistake, omitted to point out the method by which the sum arising from licensing lunatic asylums was to be dhiposed, moved for leave to bring in a bill to enthralse the magis trates of counties to call upon the clerks of the peace to par over the money to the treasurer of the county, for the fu l filment of the pur poses of the act. These sums were now considerable, amounting in one county to one thousand one hundred pounds. Mr. LYTTLETON seconded the motion, and leave being given Mr. Gordon brought in the bill. It was read a first time, and or dered to be reed a second time on Thursday. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. Sir B. KNATCHBULL presented a petition from the farmers of Pennenden and several other places in Kent complaining of distress, and pointing out a reduction of taxation as one of the raessares of relief.— Ord ered to be printed. SNALL DEITS. Mr. HUME moved for Returns of the number of persons committed to the various prisons of the metropolis, in the year lag% upon arrest for debts under WSW process ; and also for a Return of the number of persons committed for small debts to the same pri sons, specifying the amount. He took that opportunity to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel) whether, after so many years' experience, he was not prepared to adopt some alteration in the law relating to some proems. He knew there were a number of per sons who suffered s confinement of forty days, in consequence of proceedings in the Court of Requests for sums so low as eighteen ' pence of original debt, although the exptirces incurred in procuring their release amounted at all times to many pounds. Mr. Secretary PEEL thought that the bon. member was scarcely warranted in saying nothing had been done to improve the law en these subjects for some years, when it.was recollected that his ho nourable friend the then Solieltor.General brought In, and carried through Parliament a bill, only two yaws ago, limiting the amount of arrest on same process to the sum of 201. Whatever had taken place, however, he (Mr. Peel) was thoroughly convinced of the no. comity of looking at the whole of the subject in detail, before they adopted any specific remedy. He was, indeed, so deeply impressed with the necessity of looking at the whole of the law on the subject of arrests before they attempted the alteration of any particular parts. that he had even felt it his duty to recommend the consideration of it to the Commission now sitting, to inquire into the practices of the higher Courts of Law. He believed, indeed, that the Commission. ere had made some progress in their inquiry on the subject ; but as it was important that they should follow their report an 90111 C questions which had for some time been b efore them, in order that the whole might be clearly connected, and brought fairly under consideration, they bed not been able to continue their inquiries on the subject et mall debts to a satisfactory terminal n. When they bad reported oh the subjects am before them, the Commissioners would then be able to devote the whole of their time to the inquiry ; and he put it to the hon. member whether it would not be better to wait and bring the question before men of such experience as the present Commissioners, rather than incur the expense of appoint. log a new set, who could not be so well acquainted with the subject. Mr. HARVEY—It was worthy of notice, that out of twenty thousand &mats, seventeen thousand were for sums under 1001. This appeared from returns which had been made to that house. Mr. HUMS wished to know bow soon the commissioners would prosecute this pert of their inquiry? Re understood that which they were now engaged upon 'mild take two or three years. kr. PEEL could give the honourable gentleman no informatio upon that point. Mr. HUME doubted the necessity of any commission whatever. If the Attorney-General would do his duty, the whole might speedily be accomplished. (r. O'CONNELL was of opinion all arrest for debt ought to be abolished, except after judicial proceedings.—The returns were than ordered. Mr. HUME moved for returns of the number of persons com. mittsd to prison for debt in Dublin, in the course of the last year._ Ordered. Mr. HUME moved for mums of the number of own. nutted to Wbiteceou♦treet Prison in the course of the last two yam—Ordered. cuatexcr. . Mr. WODEHOUSE moved fora copy of the evidence given by A. Baring, Esq. on the subject of a silver currency, Were the Privy Connell, on the 96th April, 1828. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER bad no objection is this evidence being given, subject to other evidence taken at the same time to be added to it. He had not yet had an opportunity of reading that evidence over Iiffr.WODUICUSE agreed to postpone bb notion till this day, the to give the Chancellor cif Exchequer an opportunity of looking at evidence. • Mr. Alderman THOMPSON moved for returns of the number of pounds of cigars imported into this country, &e. during the last yr.--Ordastl. Mr O. DAWSON moved for, and subsequendy laid on the tab* Porn Awing the net pub li c income, tr. t of the country for the last year..—To be printed. Mr. RICE gate notice that be should, on the 11th Much, move for the appointment of socket committee, to inquire into the state of the distressed poor in Ireland. COURT OF CHANCERY. Mr. IIL A. TAYLOR—As he understood that pcseeedings five to the Court of Chasse' were to take place in the other house, which would be the subject of a report, he begged to postpone his motion on the subject till that report was mods. For fifteen yews he had celled attention to the state of that court, and he was deter mined still to dose. Re also begged to move for similar return to those he moved for last year, as pad...business before the Court of Chancery.—Ordered. AFFAIRS OP IPDIA. Mr. PEEL-81?, his majesty's government feel it to be their duty to avail themselves of the earliest ofportunity of redeeming that pledge ',Mat they gave at the dose of last merlon of parlianiene, that they would, early after the ecarmatcement of the resent semien, 'vhmessivei proposes senunittee of inquiry, for the impose dines. the state of the amnia= between this amutry and dor posseasione: • If, in propelling' that committee, my Mairnmet almuld, so far as he length is eunseerfed, appear Fto • the east impost sea of the du eeerdesi i rt ; at if MK "Ili Zi ai nbieraro:lloKind *Web il itase ;C: ip mom dts &sob Mt from at taillainse or hum& to ilk r lose manderiridell tbs subjestilimarit,botfrmi et, aid • vox mei as S'] „hie to the perammunt atteetko whit:hale subjeadeemedkbat hem this amenwy sad nem ansation of lad the reoollset7oa of, and the red odor_ Sc, the •pmeidon he which mart the home. He had ealy, i 1 loomed toalight, and • on der dutp which /be ttedettektng et In. the has, gentleman doe th e so bj 'night devolves open me. It kno past of my ' Oh/ -to retook Ass am bo emitted. .je die home • eny plow fee disk fennineetr It ir ne Ste. beemotery MIA, Nth .. beet et ewlitty to we the views med.opialter at the prem. mid lee beiselaimed them se era .. i w a s *pig to elle tesewaltetbstebemidellegee pommelled and wide makeeeterthsh „ ilm Ihdia Ceemedltf. fay limy is osePifeadie the thee theswiteediam who =t i t - t ..._ s __ $4l ilv ,,i tz . su . istoe iippehiedOnts who ewe nee, diode .. .keit did •er apt. smpothek edoWilme die idemel.l • , • - ..4ar ' ' the mope el _ . firm Itiere ikederefeisetteltptifoi ekirtindieek hOmOrj A / 's he lotereeleard who Welt be eamidesed gp skim W• . higher obligations of moral duty than an_y queltion whisk comes within the sphere or scope of public links, or as be pre sented to the consideotion of the legislature. (Hem, heir, hear.) I . have another motive ter avoiding the discussion et deathe at pre. sent*vehith is, because it is no pert of my present object to penile a lengthened discussion or conflicting opinions on the in of India. I think that it is fide, and not conflicting arguments, at which we ought to get in the first instance.—(Hear, hem !) I shall propose the appointment of one committee for the purpose of ex amining that great mass of documentary evidence which it needy to be submitted to their notice, and of instituting that personal examination of the witnesses, who are both conversant with the facts at which we want to get, and qualified by local in. formation to form opinions worthy of our attention—(Hear, hear I) I propose the appointment of only one committee, rather than of two or three committees, because I doubt whether every pert of the subject is not so intimately connected together as to give us a better chance of simplicity and information from the labours of one cont. mince than ft/Moor three—much, for instance, as one on the subject of finance, one on our trade with India, and one on our trade with China : the while of time questions are so intimately connected,that I fear tantalise would be more likely to arise from their being separated than hens their being joined; and for this suggestion I have to make my admewledpesents to the hon. member for Ellington (Mr. Boeing), frail whi = : s e n t7 suggestion must always be considered as I that the having valuable.more then one committ ee would ehilge to travel over much of the same ground; and la the event el thefr reports running counter, the question would rather be bewildered than cleared by their labours -hear, hear). — I propose this caminittes, dr, with a view of instituting a full and unlimited inteedgettion into the state of the affairs of the East India Company, and every document connected with those affairs shall be laid before that committee without the slightest reserve. This committee, sir, is not propo sed for the pur pose of ratifying any engagement entered into between the govern. went and the East India Company; no such engagement, open or secret, expressed or implied, exists; nor is this committee proposed for the purpose of sanctioning any premeditated determination on th e wt of the government ; no such determination has been formed. But, having stated that no such engagement has been entered into on the pert of the government, I feel myself entitled, on that very account, to impress as the hones extreme importance of the measure before them, and to implore them-to consider that they must have other objects in view than the merely determining in what manner British commerce is to be carried into that part of the globe. (Hear, hear, hear.) There are other considerations connected with it of much greater importanes. It is for you to consider the political chaser= of the Institutions with which you are about to interfere; it is for you to consider the vast tracts, all of which are dependent on the regulations which shall be midst. it is for you to consider the immense revenues which those regions yk:J, larger than those produced b y most other countries. You have then to consider how wide and comprehensive this subject is, together with the various modes and d eg rees in which what you do will affect the finances of this country—tM con. stitution of this country—the influence of the crown—and other in terests of the greatest importance. Among these are the interests of the East India Company themselves ; and in speaking of this body, I now only allude to them in their litical character. ith respect to that, I ems say that any Invest igat ion will do them credit; they appear to me to have been animated with the desire of procuring the general welfare of ell those who had been committed to their charge; and, comparing their mode with that of any other colonist government, I think it will be found that the power committed to their care has been exercised in such a manner as greatly to redound to their credit. Above all, I beg this House to bear in mind that they were called upon to administer to the interests and feelings of a people very pe culiarly situated. I therefore intreat the House to avoid any rash e=ta, though they may " a priori" appear to be good and . We have to bear in mind that the form of govern. matt now prevailing in India has existed there fee more than lay years; and, though I am not prerg a to say that in case of necessity no other form could be that—would be satisfactory to the natives, yet I am prepared to assert that sufficient difficulty presents itself to induce us to consider before we rashly venture upon any experiments. Of course this inquiry must go into the financial state of the East India Company : we must compare the amount of =venue now received with the amount received at former periods: we must examine what prospects there are of re. clueing the amount of the civil charge and what prospects there are as to the gross revenue, so as to mate it equal to the charges. With respect to the commercial concerns of the East India Company, the documents that will be presented to the Committee will contain much important information. On this subject, however, I abstain from pronouncing any opinion; but I may, never theless, refer to the returns that will be made, as so ;;. eat to convince any calm and right-judging man that too sanguine an expectation has been held out as to the result of any arrange. met for opening the trade with India. However, means of judging on this point will be 'idly supp li ed. It will be ahewn what effect the free admisdon of the Americans has lud—what the price of tea has been in all parts of the world what difference then has been in the price of that article as furnished by the Company and by individuals trading on their own bottom on private speculation--on all these points the fullest intone. ad= will be given, and any other information that can be procured shall be laid most unreservedly before the committee. Among the other considerations which will present themselves to this commit tee, I have reserved for the last place that which appears to me to be the most important—the welfare and interests of those who are now subject to the dominion of this country (hear). I have seen returns which make the amount of the native population imme. dtately subject to the amend of this country, not lens than ninety millionsof persons (hear). When we consider the extent of trar 1 tory ever which our power is acknowledged—when we consider the enormous mums elf population subject to our dominion when we call to Wad the grutrevolution of empires by which that dominion has been when we reflect on the immense distance hum which sovereign authority over those regions is exercised—whin we call to mind the difference in language, manners, nth**, end usages, between ourselves and the almost countless Amends over wham we the mind cannot fail to be amazed at the eon tooplatioa of ects so vast and various. But whatever may be the sentiments we entertain upon the (question, sure I am, a least, that we must approach the consideration of it with et deep feeling, with a strong sense of the responsibility we shall locar—with a strong sense of the moral obligation which Imposes it upon us as a duty to promote the improvement of the country, and the welfare and well being of its inhabitants, an far as we can, consistently with the safety and security of our dilation, and the oblipdons by which we may be bound. We obeli en. doubtedly fed ourselves called upon to consida what pre the mesa= that may bast tend to protect the natives of those distant regions from wrong—to secure to th em their personal liberty and the halts of their try ; in a word, to endeavour, while we still keep them under British rule, to atone to them he the sulterings they endured, and the wrongs to which they wen ex posed in being reduced to that rale; and to afford them such ad. vantages and confer on them such benefits as may, in some depose, console them for the loss of their independenca—(hear.) tilt, are the considerations which, whatever may be the anxiety to extend British conquest and to maintain the rights of British sub jects, must indisputably be entertained in a &itish pedrament— (hear.) Avoiding, then, sir, all minute reference to sabeedinsie de tails, however important—unwilling to touch upon any topic that may provoke discussion, which, for the reasons I have already sated, lam anxious to avert—l have cautiously misdeed hem mooting any point upon which there could be say enlist of opinions; and now, sir, in this some spirit I shall otinchda ) by simply moving " for a select committee to inquire into the present state of affairs claw East India Company, aid to inquire !pm the state of trade between Oreat.Britain, the East Indies, and Cilia." Mr. WoIaRYCHE WHITMORE mid be would make beta few observadoos. He felt that the eight has. widow hellish= the most prudent course in avoiding all topic. which would gime the to utuascessery dimmed= ; but he thought that, en the eve of sows. mentos. an inquiry, the importance of which might be undeitals4 but could not over rased, it would be well to ornadthr Vey falt object din bad le ft out from the statement of the right hon. . It appeared that it was the intention of government to confine the inquiry to the • two points of commerce and finance; but there was another subject—namely, the state of the law, which was one of the lest impatemes e and which was looked up to in the provinces of India, as sea of the most vital moment. He trusted thee the right hon. tiemetary =old not =dads die state of the deli and arisothel ; and it would be found that the commercial interests of .the cowry woo too seek mixed up with It to allow them to be divided. It would be had that whet was called colt:Mention, or the eathemeat s aw dependant= the Lw, andno practical infensaine awld bedardeed about the ale if dm ether Witl 0(111.611... The loan had siet tb dtee the Eat their a strong dean f l o si =at the weed ear LZ al t:l ea L peek. He bed Ito leak that melt a doeis im e m 'ed,,heeire was - giteridui that it still reandad enideetded wheeler*, paramesee night an haws base ben 11.- Odes heads P W hoped it the Oandave wadi bedenia c om=...lf u sew is loco z i this. Ike • thjs pedal • e eye sof eiNieerieMekreekek et. hems - ewe= ag ID the pm. - -esigrastio. sib . is alarlia re ass e r to rei,ll6ol • ad tasettershe oat ithial • yogi* On iimetthe cemidAt MO 4! _ = ll. lfill er iel alW ; s =mid theft - tho • •• • . . • interest a fair representation. The famine aims OM 111bn repeal— Bering Mr. Athutbna Mr. Astell Ala Robert Grant Masi, of Chants Mr. E. Stanley Mr. Huskisen Mr. Aldennet Thompson The Chet. of the Exchequer ; Mr. Hume Lord Milton Mr. George Moore Sir Walter Burrell Mr. Spring Rice 817. William Ward - Mr. George Banks Mr. William O'Brien Mr. Peregrine Queasy Mr. Peel, of Norwich Mr. W. Whitmore Mr. Stuart Wortley Mr. Poulett Thomson Sir R. Vivian Sir James Mackintosh Mr. Hart Davis Mr. Littleton Mr. Cuthbert Ernson Mr Csandish Mr. Chas. Wynn I Colonel Bailie Mr. Femoral Mr. Irving Sir J. MACDONALD said the considerations Involved In the abject were of paramount importance. They affected the vital interests of the country, and the welfare and wellbeing of the mil. lisiSof British subjects now in India. He bad a very high opi nion of the persons to whom the affairs of India were confided, but he could not forget that a communication had been addressed to a factionary there, from a high and r responsible party b rln e pland, which doled out such a dict that - he must say he maid not conceive if any person bad a, a wish to bring the uhnbestration of justice in India into contempt, he could not have anseeeded better. He would wish to know if the author of that let. oar had avowed or disavowed its contents ? At all events be hoped I that the contents of that letter would not escape the notice of the lemmittee which was to be appointed. The right hoe tem. had fa. vaned the House with a list of the hon. gent lem en who were to be members of his committee ; and he (Sir J. Macdonald) honestly loonfsseel that he did not think the selection of names such as wadi meld) , the manufacturing and commercial (Mar, bear.) He had listened very attentively to the list, which , bad been read very rapidly, and if be was in ifrof, he was open to conviction. Returning to the subject of the letter, he must ,fm, that if it was really written by the noble lord mentioned , it was de without the knowledge tibia colleagues. With to the tof the eammlms, he hoped that, in considering the with eh a el would go to etetmination o th, i act z n ve i ld r p tia t i r y n to wl i t h m ose inds armed, rests which were interwoven and connected with the trade ft country and China. Mr. HUME wished to know whether the committee would act tip to the recommendadons of the committee of ISIS? Mr PEEL explained. Mr. HUME thought that there were many pracdal um of Maness, whose names added to the inquiry would give great vrdOt to the investigation, and would be satisfactory to the country. He Be IL P 11/111 Seemed the addition of Mr. Maberly's name, as well as that of . Mr. O. BANKES said, he was extremely anxious to address the hawse upon the subject of some redeetions which had been east upon a noble friend of his. He certainly had been embarrassed on a former evening, when the subject bad been suddenly intro duced, at a time when his noble friend was labouring under se vere domestic affliction, which had prevented him (Mr. Banks) from seeing him fora long rime preideus, or from speaking to him upon the subject of the letter which bid been attributed to him. He (Mr. Bankes) also felt ants:rasa on other grounds. He then thought there would have been a necessity of Stadia; to circumstances affecting another person, and cireunistapes fee which he would be, in all probability, put upon his trial. (Hear.) The person he alluded to was Sir John Gant, and he was of coons anxious to avoid saying any thing which might Mel to rase a prejudice against a man who was shady to be put u g r arg i e t s is trial -- He had since, however ascertained that the against sir John Or i ent were in con :times of c=fances which had taken place before his friend bad written the letter, and therefore the dilliculty was removed. He bad also since seen the only copy if that letter, which was now in his noble friend's possession, and which he (Lord li.) had received ftom Bombay. It ame from Sir J. Grant to his son in England, and through the courtesy of the latter gentleman was his lordship furnished with this copy. And in thss copy, width :having been taken fa India, must undoubtedly be considered as the best authority, it appeared that his lordship bad said, not that we will renew the ewer, but that we will review the charter. Thus it seems there was not only a difference in the Indian and English papas,but the chief word had been altered as appeared from the espy. He could assure the ho. nourable member foe Caine and the bones that the apposition that his noble friend bad the 'lightest Wooden of treating the Judges with nity, or of striking their Independence, was squally unfou His noble fiend susetained no such desire. Any construction of his mile fklesffe Was, imputing to Min such a desire, he (Mr. Banks') who knew, or at least thought be knew his noble friend so well, um convinced was a mis.construc don. With respect to the etheaustences which bad led to the cones between Sir John Malvin fed his sable friend, although be f alli elrd:st a great pert of the seabeenestheat which pissed upon him on a former night was 111119.114 he bed se wish to allude to those circumstances bather than vas secesseri he ids noble friend's vindication. He would beg Ism to inks adm ohnonadens se the peculiar hardship et 'demob* flisei's ass. This dismodee was raised at the Messes emir, omit from the ors erases oc currence not very generally known in Landes a the thno, sia are &haat forgotten. The paper in question, deaths, applied ill it it were a kind of manifesto bend by his noble bend, as Posiiiint of the Board of Controul, *towing imputations* es the elms iter• and conduct of the Judges in the Supremos thee of Judisattee at Bombay, and endeavouring to deserey their eserespeedence. So far, however, was this from Wag tin ens, that his Debit fiend's lan was a reply to a meet relent commenicadesbein Sir John Minis, seeds under cfrcumstenem whisk be aseMend - of eh. Mighset impeesetee. So deeply istpeomd was Sir John Moho& with dm het, the t the natives of India were enduring the greatest distress lied dorm In an. sequence of the new experiment which was midst; elesteitikeg the authority of the judge, that he thought it nasal said a detach by the leis mode of teenverinee, MIEN/ et gilts ear solicitisi the ineenhate isterpselties of the hems Mho. rides on nestly the subplot, and aisles that the tatequtility if thee cz of India and the honour of the grneement were vivitally te and &mended the most prompt as odes Nothing maid be Uses true than that it meow that andpammemo duty, andsesly r ems.side and gaud the interest and bombes@ of the natives of India over whom we were rules; and he (MS Bonk* would say, that no. thing Gould more strongly militate spinet the interest and happiness of these natives than allowing such an interference on the part of the judges of the Indian courts as that which had been unhappily attempted by the V ISO Court at Bombay, and which was an ex periment to mit sodas who resided at any distance whatever hem the Presidency amenable to certain processes of the Bom bay court, to which they had until that period been strangers, and respecting which they entertained great apprehensions. He had had an opperandly of metes minutes which had ban made by the Marq - sus of Hastings, when he was 00,0110 r. General of lain, during a journey which he bad made into those newly-oda provinces which at that period bad fallen under. the dominion of the British crown. In those minutes, his lordship stated that be !sued see gesseal, and indeed, le it appeared to him, mimed hies sem the satires et India of abbenage of the In. uoduaken of Betide law. They entatained the greatest fear of belqg remand wisonehle, directly or beirestly, to th e au th ority et ill Mai erases Okada. What; therefree, could be ex.- ed le he the sonnsimeses of the new aid set espelenat wb• without any adergusemmea was eiteMes uses them by the Serene Coat as Bombay f Ribes was welting to ratify is; it was cohere, to di the ideas el law antertaked by any judge whoever at en tht beset iq any oldie mem of Jaffe, or by my lewyet who her petalled at the bar d wity if obese math Unhappily, *masa It did Maw to two elders/vs of the seleseme esits at Bembay, tbst shelves raiding Ws Brace thins lift jesailmey were end melbas r the proems at dim emeitat If opfpeed 'that they wee liabi lispemithessess ilst they cenalveCrireot eders4, be most mill mod; but he milealeed • that they ved It la lepseltheeffehe km. „ Meg, Ms) •Meter.] eves, they• hosed pomesirdireeted e thee me es pelmet fir ilia • peoamdft; Matt iCreir I other eesseerea it tilkadtglielt seder. The•aggrieveffiernhilled =lllles Sir 4 Mskehh; is gamer of Bbenlisty,tedillitislifal 11eMbilmt mil an Made Of on the tithe j ef the infienieennt was illegal and enjundfisb less* the' meted in and &dared the oath presesitimillfesi t iln the Sees Mr rsid doling Ms envernmentas peotaitelitia esibbseesselly be mob the lastrunent of tyrannyandapposesissi— Tee ketrovo, which Sir J. Malieltweede to whet be cowered • unoessomille were or of therms , if the e man wee distleadthel by temper, eu idiess , Wed- In the arse' leallmeth b tried the effect of itioesnertates• lie implored the Monet that ems an ties itiftleas inutheitqle arminadon until the' loathe bed limn Mese( ft • the' alien of me home mtheetthe: Ilit 4 the• temainieg keg* Weer., the dads ei Sir C. Chisbest-Wif arhsm Ow to biota it jar nice sway, that its. isihffile` • a mos ' ellassiasefferieed' ‘'welmint any hamper motives in the appointments which he made for the purpose of filling up the vacancies in question. Both the individuals welt wholly animist's to him, except by name. With regal to the appointment of one of them, Sir W. Seymour, he woad rola to the weeds of his noble Mead to show, not only ehat his noble Mend was not influenced in that appointment by any improper i nducement, i but that the motives by which he was really M ininreis reflected pest honour and audit upon him. He (M r . B.) was sure the house would forgive hie anxiety to vindicate his noble and absent friend, and to remove the unfounded imputations which had been thrown upon him. His noble friend's sole objea was, to protect the natives from the consequences of acts which it was stated by Sir J. Malcolm had filled them with the utmost de. jection and alarm. The cue Was heard before the Privy Council ; and their judgment was, that in every part of the transaction Sir John (hest wee entirely wrong, and that in every part of the transaction lir John Malcolm was entirely right ; and the judo. man, in condi% admonished all who were concaned " to take notice of it, sad to peens timomelves acoerdingly." Under theme circumstances, be emst es tend that his noble frWA's error, if et. roe it were, was of the most venial description ; and arose entirei from his anxiety topmast the natives of India from what ju stly appeared to him M be sis interference with them. This was not the first meadow on which had arisen between governor% and judges in India. Meat fifty perigee sim Wr occurrence had taken place, which all who were cantweent with the history of our Indian empire would easily reediest. It happened very shortly after the introduction of the forms of Ibs law Into India, and was the first instance of any rill ion the government and councils of India and the Merano mats. To such great lengths did the sffair proceed, that parliament was at length obliged to interfere. The house were aware that be alluded to the tranasc. Lion which took place, he believed, in the year 1781, between Sir Elijah Impey and Warren Hastings. On a rekeence to the par.. liamentary dabs es, it would be found that the subject bad crested a great sensation in this country; and in order to remedy the evils which had manifestd themselves, s bill had been brought into Par liament to anew the supreme court of judicature in India, and to restrain and confine its powers within certain limits.—(Th e honourable member here read a portion of the preamble of the bill to which be alluded.) He mentioned this circumstance o thew that his noble Mend had done no more than his duty in opposing the at. tempted extension, by the supreme court at Bombay, of the pow ers by which they had bm Invested by law. He by no meats pre. owned to say that, looking at his noble friend's letter as published in the newspapers, there was nothing in it against which an objet. don might be taken; but be utterly disclaimed, in the name of his noble friend, the slightest intention on his part of lowering the dig. nity, or diminishing the independence of the judges in India. Mr. STEWART wished the Right Honourable Secretary would take into consideration the mode of appointing inferior judges in India. These functionaries were appointed by the load govent. mans, who exercised an undue control over them ; and in con. firmation of his statement, he referred to the opinion of Sir Johs Leech, who, in deciding an appeal case in council from India, expressed his opinion that those courts were improperly con. stunted, and that their decisions were generally contrary to law and justice, and who recommended a change in their election to the Board of Control. With respect to the letter of Lord Ellen borough, he thought it a disgrace to the noble lord.--(Hear, hear.) He could not see by what authority Sir John Malcolm had interfered with the courts in Bombay ; and he expressed a hope that the letter as well as the answer to it, would be laid before the house. The fact was, the correspondence had as its effect, If not for its object, to interfere with the impartial decisions d judges in India. He as. sated that any interference with these courts was entirely uncalled for, and contrary to law. The fact was that the governor was bound to assist the court of law in the execution of all its orders, whilst it now appeared that they employed that influence in thwarting the efforts of the Court. In looking at the trade of India, a wide inf. ference existed between that which was carried on between th is country and India, and that carried on between male and China. Mr. LITTLETON wished to know from the right honeurabl: secretary whether it was expected from the committee to report their opinion to the house, or were they to, be confined to repot the evi. dace taken before them? He had beard with great iFasare that government had no preconceived opinions on thie sub Mr. Secretary PEEL thought the best course woo be, ter the haw to reserve to itself the power of forming their own opinion, ailed leave it to the committee to collect information ; but at the wee time, he felt great difficulty in excluding the committee from the expression of any opinion. Mr. HIISKIESON could not conceive hew a letter addressed by one public functionary to another on publis Jain, ought to be cots sideeed u one that was not to come within the cognisance of Par liament. He could not for a moment doubt but that the omtent- Oma inquiry was to embarrass all the knots connected with India. It was not merely necessary to ascertain the amount of the revenue of India, but the mode of collection ought also to be inquired into (hear). He was glad to bear that this canning were not to receive any intimation of preconceived opinion a s the put of . government, but he at the same time consid e red it ver y are. unfortunate an opinion was abesid that government had already made up their minds to renew the India charter; tin be believed Was erroneous, and mate In a . great miscue. from the appearance of that letter which had both so much commented upon. Per his part Ise was convinced the India Company could not coctisee, if their =IMPS were at all impaired ; there was no Medium between and free trade. He would now ask whether It was the in. illelliMi of Government to deal with another great eharter, which was she about to expire. He meant the charter of the Bank of England ? lb Wit hay, that out of the wee or abuses of that charter had,grown must et the evils and difficulties of the country. He would I c e r st i Ainto so extensive a subject ; hut if our comma was if our industry was in au unsatislhcicry state, all might he traced to the unfortunate circumstances by which the Bank sas entrusted with the power and means of Influencimg the prosperity of the country, a power beyond that which was pooseseed by the Crown ItselL The history of the last thirty years shored that the power of the Bank affected the property and penults of every man in the country—the power - of placing the country in a situation of war or peace. But that Chatter must be reviewed in we or two years, and great inconvenience would • arise from net viewing It speedily; end he teamed that a Coca mittee if inmaky would take place before any such renewal tack =The beirenes sow to leak to woe those of the public at He was ins of those who thought that the charter ought so Ire madam* Wise Inedillimdisam If the charter of the bank had formerly boon mewed without any inquiry, the disadvantages had since been mods moodiest; and the renewal, moreover, had been under WitimiliMces et seppeled advantages to government in con note*" fading; and ht the arrant emend reference was had more to lbw 411111treeti than to the general advantages of the public. Mr. J. STIIWART liefended the conduct of the East ludia Company; WNW ash es upon what principle the directors dew Ent India Gapes, abseil be excluded from a sot in the cum. mince. he part, he thought directors were as well quatillid as others to take a wt In that enquiry. Muesli OASCOIGNB was not satisfied either with the appoint. tnent or the mode of appointing the committee: where were tbe members fee the gnat tommeteial towns of England ? lie maid not help saying, that In his opinion wielders had fully made up their minds to renew this charter. Ile wished the committee had been arisen by ballot. Mv. PEEL denied dust gtettrottleat had made up their minder is this se ect, note , duel;y call for a conning foe the purpose of 31!. A ELI/ mild, that the India nuptial were maws for nothing mete then Nab,' ; Sod he !cold say, that ese !Munn were mote andow he the *Woe of Ink thin the mat of directors. When the tatitdititese thee, they' would see that the India enmpany bolded, their duty ; mid be ' one waul t d be ttezh fi d g t f ir d it h e2o ;1;1 VIII% Mu si rnot t b dialed for rtelp saytntakat, from the consittation of the tellinean and the ditties they 11.1 to petfurtu, they never could plowed satisfactorily to the cteletey. 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