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found a seconder„:as Rae advantage . could be de-' rived from - a Comtnittee,* formed in the mannerpro- po:cd by it.: It did not appear, that the commercial or manufacturing interests were neglected, for Mr. Cannirp,•, the Member . fee Liverpool, was one of the Committee, as were also. the Lord Mayor. and Mr. Bright. one of -wham -, inlglit be supposed to repre sent the trading interest .6f . the Metropolis—while , the other was returned for Bristol, a place of the first conenhrelal imporeancein the kingdom. Though he regretted that the motion of the Hon. Member for Surrey had been carried, and though he should rote for any mation.that might.be made to limit the inquiry, he still - eoulcr-aot help lamenting , •the im providence of the friends tothe manufacturing classes, •.vho had been so ready to sound the tocsin of alarm. Mr. CALCIaiFT.did not know that anything had fsdleo from hien-that was calculated to create alarm. Mr. RICARDO . was not aware that anything had been said to occasion unnecessary alarm. Mr. WOG expressed his hope, thit the House, dispose of this question in such a manner, as to leave no ground for alarm in the public opinion. But if the H ou se proceeded with any indication of following, up. : the spirit in which this question was brought fkorward, then indeed was there ground, and rational . ground for alarm, and hefor one would pull the tocsin with allthe strength which he could exert -.(Heir, hear would not, of course, he hoped, be understood to wish for anything like a tumultu ous Irregelar opposition to the.. question, because be was convinced that such - a mode of resist oboe would only weaken its effect. He only desirect.to excite tat spirit of apprehension_ which was well de scribed by the most -eloquent man that ever sat. in that House—he meant Mr. Burke, wbO observeil l " The alaiumbelrof midnight may disturb your yest,, hut it will prevent yott from being murdered in your beds !"—(Hear, * heal ).—He; with a similar feeling. on the subject of alarm, would say, that in the case he had supposed, the alarm 'Could not be sounded, tc.o soon.—Sir M. W, RIDLEY explained. Mr. 13ROU(;HAM thought there was a strange inconsistency in the profezions of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Baring). He denied that he wished -to excite alarm, •et he said he would pull the tocsin with all his strength- 4 Hear, hear ))—He believed, however, that his Honourable Friend might pull as long as he was able, and that his exertions would, after all, be attended with very indifferent results. Mr. BARING explained. Mr. H. SUMNER said, the Lord Mayor, on ac. count of the business which claimed his attention in the City, wished his name might be sk ithdrawn from' the Committee. He (Mr. H. Sumuer) had no objec tion to this, provided the name of Mr. Wilson was substituted for that of his Lordship. Mr. WILSON was unfortunately' so situated, that he feared it. would. not be in his power to attend the Committee; and in consequeuce. tio al ration was made in the list. The question that Mr. Bacour be one Of the said Cbmmittee, wits then.put and:curia The following Members were added. to the Committee, without fur ther observalmi Sir 'Thomas Arland, Mr. haw "Fang, Wl'. bashes, Mr. Drough.sin, Mr. John Bennett, Mr. J. Irving, Mr. Coke, Mr. Gooch, and Mr. F., Lewis. The Committee 'were authorised to meet to-mor row, to send for persons, papere, and records—five to be a quorum. INSTRUCTIONS TO THE COMMITTEE. Mr. ROBINSON rose, not, as he professed, to go at any length into the question generally, so as to dis turb the course of •business laid out for the night, but to do that, the propriety of which he had only suggested last night. He had not then thought tbe:e was suflicicut ground to grant an inquiry into the circumstances stated by the Petitioners, nor did Ye think the House, from all he had been able-to coiLtct since, would be authorised in making any elaterial change in the existing state of things in t:iis respect. Last night he had been prevented trom making this motion, because, as the previous question had been moved, it was requisite, before any other Amendment could be put, that the previous consent of the House, for withdrawing the Amendment then before it, should be first obtained. The obstacle of last night no longer prevented his doing what he Lilt an incumbent and paramount duty on his part, as intimately and officially connected with the subject ; namely, to move an instruction to this Committee, so as to narrow, within the closest possible bounds, the nature of .the inquiry, convinced, as he was, that nothing could be more injudicious than suffering the Committee to take up the question of the increase. of price of the necessaries of life, on the broad grounds proposed by the motion of the Honourable Member for Surrey. He then concluded by moving, " ..brat it be an instruction to the said Committee to .confine its inquiry into the mode of ascertaining and calculating averages in the twelve maritime dis tricts, and to inquire into any, frauds which may have been committed in the said twelve districts in violation of the existing laws of this country , with respect thereto." Mr. WODEHOUSE apprehended the Right Hon. . Gentleman laboured under some mistake, with re spect to what he had said-last night as to the power Magistrates had to rectify the mistakes which. some times took place in calculating averages in these dis tricts. Ile knew of no Act giving Magistrates a tnuttouling power in this respect, except the Slst of King George 111. This gave the Magistrates an Opportunity of checking the average, if the inspector were incorrect by the official corn returns. This was even insufficiently accurate, as he endeavoured to Cucidate by a return which had been made at Lynn, in Nerfolk, .on the 7th of November, 1815, on an average•struck upon the price of 1056 cleaners ofT e. neat, :rad two (loaners only of wheat from i‘lold, in Denbighshire, where, though, 'in the average struck, the two quarters were as much taken into the ac =UM AS the .1056 quarters of wheat, yet, from inac - curacy, a very extensive frayed hail been .commit;ed. on a flninbureh house of eminence; although the frond era, r edictly uointentional, yet its prejudicial effect v:.is the sm.r as if it had been premedstaied... :tar CIIA IlUltlt ELL remarked, that itwas evidently the intention of his Majesty's Miniaters to fritter awdy every power and important function of the Com/mace—Wear, hear). On the subject' of averages he would lie• c mention, that the county of f. , ::sscs was i!.c Aided in. the London average, it being tinandl the hest wheat that was grown in the county cnuie to the lanidoiftinailtit. It appeared I.) L.:a obvious, that tiale.s the prices of corn wcrc re think the House, from all he had been cuikct since, would be atithorised in maki material change in the existing state of th this respect. Last night he had been prevent( making this motion, because, as the previous q had been moved, it was requisite, before an; Amendment could be put, that the previous of the Houte, for withdrawing the Amendme before it, should be first obtained. The obst last night no longer prevented his doing what an incumbent and paramount duty on his intimately and officially connected with the s namely, to move an instruction to this Con su as to narrow, within the closest possible 1 the nature of .the inquiry, convinced, as he w nothing could be more injudicious than mac] Cbmmittec to take up the question of the i of price of the necessaries of life, on the grounds proposed by the motion of the Hon leruber for Surrey. He then concluded by " That it be an instruction to the said Comm .confine its inquiry into the mode of ascel and calculating averages in the twelve mariti tricts, and to inquire into any, frauds will, have been committed in the said twelve dist violation of the existing laws of this count respect thereto." Mr. WODLHOUSE apprehended the Rig Gentleman laboured under some mistake, spect to what he had said-last night as to th Magistrates had to rectify the mistakes whit times took place in calculating averages in tl tricts. lie knew of no Act giving Magi! tuntrouling power in this respect, except the King George lil. This gave the Magisti opisoquility of checking the average, if the i weie incorrect by the official corn returns. ' sea insufficiently accurate, as he endeave r;ucidatc by . a return which had been made in Nerfolk, -on the 7th of November, 1815 41.cr.v t :;e-I,truck upon the price of 1056 (pi and two quarters only of wheat from I)onbighshire, where, though, - in the averag the quarters were as much taken into count as the •1056 quarters of wheat, yet, fn en: acy, a very extensive fraud had been co ea . 3 Hausipar , J.ll lnuse of eminence ; :dap traad crtectly unintentional, yet its pr ed . ect ti,e slins• as if it had been preme ti r (.1 IA 11-Ul: It ELL remarked. th eridenti.: the intention of his Majesty's Mir 11.zter a.v.ty every power and important fw the Conink•itee—j/ear, hear). On the st arertes he wou.d lic• c mention, that the c was kt:inded iLthe Lyndon average, ca l Nposed that...ut the best ....•heat that was county c Aum to the London . Marlet. It; that u:Ile-s the prices of • kept ttp, k would :be impossible to pay ta;es.' I —The landlsoldlr not for niOnepeli; but for j ustice; he . wiled- 'to be enabled to 'pay the fundholder his dividends. • It was most unfair to charge him with being• the cause of those pubhc burdens which, in fact, were imposed by the ex pendittre and taxation of the country. Unaccus tomed as he aas to address the House, he should say no more, but conclude by moving, as an Amend ment—" That it be an instruction to the Committee to inquire whether the present mode of taking the averages ascertains the actual market-prices of corn throughout the United Kingdom, or whether any. other plan can be devised better calculated to effect that purpose ?" Mr. S. WORTLEY observed, that an Hon. Friend of his bad said the time was now come when it was necessary to speak out. He concurred in the senti ment, and was of opinion that it was time to declare aloud that the country could not bear higher prices of corn than thoie which now prevailed--(Hear).— It was true, -the agriculturists were entitled to pro tection, but he was convinced, that of all classes they were suffering the least, and that their distress bore no proportion to that of the manufacturers. Had he been in the House on the preceding night, he cer tainly should have voted against the appointment ofl the Committee, being satisfied that the country could not afford to pay the landowners a higher protecting price for their produce than was already paid ; and he trusted that the House would not be induced to .make experiments, which could only end in proving the correctness of this opinion. ' Mr. BENET!' (Member for Wiltshire) denied that 1191)0 -ever been an advocate for high prices, and he 19410 on the appointment of the Committee as one step dieir permanent reduction. Could it be sup pletti, that ifthe whole land were thrown out of cul tivation, and we depended Off foreign supplies alone, that the-price of . Corn would be log in this country? .Surely not ; and whatever, therefore, tended to the protection of our agriculture, and to preserve us, : from foreign dependence, must have a andency to areit'the evil of high and fluctuating prices. It- had been shewn, in Mr. Colquhoun's book, that, in those years when nte were under the necessity of importing Corn in the greatest quantities, we never received a supply from abroad more than sufficient for thirty nine days' consumption in the year. good deal had been said with regard to the high price of cattle during the last year, but the fact was, that about four years ago that price was so .low as very nsate , rially to check. propagation, and the present rise was but a re-action from the scarcity so produced. The great mischief of the Corn Laws, - as now framed, was, that -they kept alive a constant anxiety in- the minds both of the farmers and merchants. -fle had not the honour of a seat in the House when the mea sure of 1815 was adopted, or he should have stated this-objection, for at that time he clearly foresaw the evil tolehich he was adverting. He wished to see another system substituted, and a direct duty int posed on foreign Corn, equivalent to the superior taxation which we had to support. It had 'been truly said, that, were it net forthis taxation, ne protection would be wanted; the land, as well as the manufac tures, would then be able to maintain itself.. But if the cultivation of the land were neglected, prices would be high under any circumstances. Foreign Corn might now be imported at a price absolutely lower than the amount of our taxes, added to the wages .of labour. One of the first consequences, therefore, of large importations of foreign Corn, must be a reduction of wages greater than the disgraceful and unjust reduction (he meant in proportion to the difference in the price of Corn) which they had al ready undergone. Another opinion which he had been led to form was, that there was no very large portion of surplus labour in the country ; for, al thoUgh wages were so low that the agricultural la bourer could hardly procure bread and water, yet in harvestginto a sufficient number of hands could not be obtained, even at double the former allowances. He had only to add, that if he should be on the Com mittee, he, for one, should have no wish to extend the protection beyond the point fixed in 1815: but he trusted that, the Committee would not be restrained from making a full report, and investigating every branch of the subject. Mr. MONCIZ thought, the question related not only to the price' at which the farmer could grow his corn, but to what the poor man could afford to pay for it. The great objection to the Corn Laws was, that they affected the pour in a.cruel'and disproportionate manner. It 4peared that. we might now, if there was no restricuon, import corn at 50s. per quarter, but, in consequence of that restriction, the price was. between 70s..aad 804. ;low, to a Getitleman of for-, tune, this would rriakea trifling 'inference ; it might amount to, perhaps, seven or, eight pounds in tbe, year ; but a poor man, wicket} eqoally large fainily, must pay the sane addition. His whole income, might not exceed £3O per appum, And this addition, therefore, was to him a taA of IS per k g0t.... It was tax also from which be could not escape, for he 'Must ! , either pay it or cease to live. ffe now saw the result; the great mass of 4! P°ollooll. was. reduced to the alternative_ of starvation or. pappert.sm. This, to be sure, was a frightfulstoement,,Ot..itiivas a s true as it was frightf4 and he consitjered,it , to . bebis duty to vote against the Committee, because he was per , soaded that, if. Ilmir deliberations were not utterly uselesi they wookk • Jsaye.the injuyitous.effect of raising the pricer,_ which were already much too high. Pori UMPL4..entertaißed. a Pope, that, as the Committee was appointed, its inqniriesinight be.pro ductive of advantage; but at * samemne he took this occasion of stating, that be, for. ene, would.resist any measure that might be introduced,. the (Nett of which was to raise the . price of food—lt/Or, hear). Had he been present on tLt. - _preceding night, he should, indeed, have felt inclined to oppose the ap-, ;:ointment of a Committee nn the subject. He was ceatainly not prepared_ to name any specific remedy ler the *distresses • of Sfie, Agriculturists ; but . he thought it clear that these were not times for tam pering with the feelings-of the community—(Hear). They were not times ter legislating on the price of an article necessary to the existence of all. He did not mean, however, to say, that he regretted the ap-, poin:ment of a Committee, because he trusted some ~0 0d Might arise froth it; and with this impreisiou ne should vote for the original motion. - Mr. WILMOT thought that a protecting price, to• a certain extent, was due to the Agricultural interim, of the country. lie differed completely, from those, Wlti out an opinion, ilia the tandlonli * *Lilian thc country: He contended that thit were as much entitled to readmit - Anon (or the; capital which they laid out in agriculture as thi manufac turer. He objected most strongly to the proposition which went to propOse g different Manner of making the averages. He desired not to see . any alteration contemplated by the Committee, which he thought , ought only to investigate, for the.purpche of seeing if the provisions 'of the Act of 1815, in that respect, were properly executed. He should give his voteln favour of the restricted motion*of the Right Hog. the President of the Board of Trade. Mr. BANK ES begged leave to say, that, for one, he thought the House would go into the question with every fair expectation of producing some bene ficial result to the Agricultural Interests It could be hardly necessary for him to express-the reasons he had for thinking that interest more especially entitled to the protection-of the Legislature, because he had' explained the sentiments he held on that point when the question was agitated in 1815. It appeared to him to amount to blindness in any political man, pot to see that . the Agricultural and Manufacturing. In terests were intimately connected, and dependent on one another. For the truth of this they had only to look at the events of late yeari, when they would find that agricultural distress came first, and was in variably followed by a similar amount of distresS in the manufacturing interests. He begged leave to say foi Himself, as being-Vmed as one Member of the ComMittee, that 5e wA.Orepared to go into it with no determination , or.fisei. opinion-of any description, but simply with a confiktent hope that something Was to be done to relieve the agriculturists. He certainly- wished, for his own parr, to render el . " fectual to that class, that protection which, by the Act of 1815, had been intended to be given to it; but which Act, at the present moment, he .believed to be ineffectual, and almost _nugafory.— In 1815, .the questicn which bad mot -engreised the attention:of the -House, was with' regard to - 4110+' Striking of the averages. He (Mr;Bertkes) had ex pressed his desire,that these shobld be pia Upon - a better footing. Errors were allowed on all hands to exist as to the manner of doing this; but, after con siderable discussion on that point, it was supposed that the error committed on one' side the King dom would be corrected by the error of an opposite nature committed on the other side; anti,. in this slovenly manner, the question 'was• allowed to be settled. He thought, however, that Parliament ought 4CA to •construct the laws on this subject as to place it out of the power of any combination or fraud to effect either the-opening or the shutting of the ports at the pleasure of any set of speculators. _lle Om- - plained, that under the "existing regulations, the averages, as giien in the Gazette, did not represent fairly the,state of the Markets; and-if, after the-de liberations of the Committee,' they; - should not be able to establish the striking of the averages in the inantitilt hid - been ilitinaicttda& for -the Counties by the Act of 1815, thenation would be extremely disappointed indeed. The business of the Com mittee would be to examinp into the operation of the general machinery of the Bill, and see how far it effected the purposes it was framed for—( Hear). —The returns in tlignselves were greatly defective. Nothing, for instance, was so absurd as to say, that the state of a great market, like, that of Lynn, in 'Nor folk, where there wits an ordinary sale of one thou sand bushels, would not affect the general average more than the sale of two bushels in a small market, in North Wales. The matter at issue was, whether the question should be put in that sort of train of in quiry before the House, or whether, as was at tempted last night, the House wou ld endeavour to get rid of the question altogether, by adopting the motion for a restricted inquiry ? He con demned' the conduct Of those Members who endea voured to excite alarm at the present. crisis, as most mischievous in its effects. The generality of the Gentlemen appointed fdr the Committee, he was sure, did not wish to go one step beyond the protec tion which the measures of 1815 were intended -to give to the agriculturists; audin that he saw no just reason for alarm. The prosperity of that class could not exist without the prosperity of every other class. After the Urge, majority by which - the qiiestionilad been carried last night, he thought it "would` be trifling with the feelings of the country, and, above all, with. the feelings of a body of men deserving of the greatest encouragement, if the House were to turn round upon the Committee which 'they had ap pbinted, and restrict its intriries within the' narrow 'limits proposed in one of the motions before the'HOuse. Lord CASTLEREAGH was anxious to direct the attention of the House to what hi apprehended to be the material point at isiue. They bad all so 'Tar pgxeed in ;he same opinion, on the gettera PoliFy of ,the Corn Laws, and were possible to, narrow the of discussion the .posiit iinmediately'at it would do 'more good thin that they should continue to occupy so much time in endeavouring - to convince each other on general principles. The way' which he construed the votes of Honourable Mern bers given last night was, that aCotninittee exist to deliberate upon the Agricultdal PetitiOn3 On 'the - table of the House, and for the purpose of porting upon. them. He had no hesitation in de claring, that looking at all the interests of this great' country, there was no one class of 'individoalsfoi whom he entertained a greater respect and a greatir deference than that class which took a peculiar in terest in this question, whether it was the landed inai terest, or those under them, the tenantry, whose hap piness or misery depended in a great measure on their prosperity or adversity—(Hear, hear, .hear). = He was sure the House would feel the peculiar' sitd• ation in which they stood "upon this question, 'and more especially' the situation in which his Majesty'S Ministers would stand with regard to that House and the Public, if they should pursue any ,Course of equivocating policy on the subject. These were his feelings in the case, and he thought great prejudice would arise to the country if the question for the' consideration of the Committee were not narrowel, according to the motion of his Right Hon. Friend the President, of the Board of Trade. Tney were, all agreed' as to the existence of Agricultural die. tress, although they might perhaps differ as to the , extent of that distress. The question therefore was, what was to be the natbre of the remedy, and what course the House ,must .pursue to arrive ar that reitedg, ,He 004 A he could collect, from wliat, had fallen from the 1-10nourable Gentleman w ho - _ __,..__ ......r. ••• . • had just spoken, that he was not preparici ta look 4 4" • the remedy. for the Ikgrienitural distrisseid s iii augmenting 'the Visible• standard of l'Blt, bisk rathei in providing for the meee effectual execution of the intentions of the Parliament at that time—(Heetrii More proceeding any farther ) boss seer, in this ques;. Lion, it would be necessary that they-010(dd under stand each other as to what extent they supposed the Act of 1815 meant to y,b, or they would be at cross purposes. It was the more material that this should be settled to the comprehension of all•parties, since . the Honourable Member for Sussex (Sir C. Burrell) bad moved his Amendment. 1:1 this Amendment the Honourable Member appeared to assume, that the object of the law of 1815 was to apply the protecting price of 80s. taken on an average of all the markets throughout the kingdom.. If that v l / 4 . el the !nearing rrf ihe law in question, he should vote for the Hon. Member's Amendment, in preference to the instruc tion of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Robinson); and if he (Sir C. Burrell) could per uade 11;s Right Hon. Friend that such wan the 'cal view - of Parliament in passing the Act of 1815, he was sure that he would consent to withdrew his instruction to the Committee. But he (Lord C.selercegh) pssitively denied that was the interpretation of • that law, and flee it was distinctly understood at the time to be different.— • wai understood, that it was intended .to give a protection of 80s. taken on an average well known in the country, and established by a preceding law. He eould recal to the recollection of the House, that when this question was agitated, the question upon which they were at issue was, ssllether a prceective price of 80s. Or 745. should be given ? and it was finally decided that 80s. should he the price, but that the averages were to be taken from the maritime dis. tricts only. He begged the House not to deheive it self: there were two motives ffr ulatieg the labours of this Committee : the one was clearly with • a view to alter the law of ISIS, and grate a nigher protective price than 80s. and the other wets to pro leide-a different scale upon which to take the averages. The reason that he objected to giving that.sweeping power of investigation' o the Committee; prop, eed iss the first of these, was, that it would have the effect of bringing forward the mighty question of the Corn Laws, at a moment so critical a; the present. And I although there might be a momentous responsibility ' on the part of the House during the present distresses; he could not consent to go into a Committee • merely for the sake of- being able to say to the country that ' they had been in a Committee. If human prudence could select a moment more unadviseahle titian an other, upon which- to put to the hazard. anything af f ecting the interests of the Agricultural class; be thought the present 'would be refue l s, when * there was a general fear of - any change that could; take place with respect to this queseion. Note withstanding the distress which existed in that 'class, they had been able_ to keep sufficiently um 'der the protective price to keep the ports• shut.— If an impression existed in the country thaeit way de -lauded in the manner of striking the averages, it 'became an important point for their inquire, how far, .when the country was oppressed with such real dis tress, it became the duty of the 'louse to relieve their imaginary distresses, and to see if fraud did opt exiet ? So long as the country thought it did, he dein& 'it was the duty of PAtliament to satisfy the pehlic mind on this subject. The country wouldeserfec.ely under stand them, if they said it was intended to introduce a measure of regulation, but not al teration,4le would 'go along with them, so long as they said it,,WAS their intention to detect fraud, without making apy alter ation in the existing laws. He maintain, that it was no small evil, at a moment like the presets:, when 'there were so- many persons in the cots - toy ; ready to rake advantage of every circumstance e9 l - conspire against the Constitution and Laws of the Realm.-e -And he did not think the consideration of this evil :was to be yielded to the desire of convincing rhe agri -culturists of what every sensible man amongst them was already convinced ofe-that that •Hoese eyinfet `thized in their distresses. •He could not see' a greater calamity that could happen than the discussing:die* the prepriety of the existing laws oil this subject; 'and although he did not- tliii,k that such wind& be th e delilieretions of the Committee, it would 'still hit* the effect ofrenetelitg the discussion in the country, it so critical a moment' as the present: He conjeiest the House to confine their efforts to that upon which they' wereall Agteed,vle.theabuseofthe existing hives. He asserted; withotitsfear of contradiction - Annsf any Of the Hoisehrable Members who: took' phut hi- die i 'discaSsion bf 1815, thdtitlie Act jeaseekli at thee +tete apptie.d the prbeeetion of 80e. tts be taken not as to The average 'Of the Whole kibtdour; but' its 'teS the average of 'the maritime-di - striate and ;diet It wits perfectly understood at the ti'm :tfuttlif. it .Wel-e tiailf: on the-Average utilie - :whole eihtdiiii,• it firokdil Make,the differehre eitsix or t e+erve - thllThigt So 'that the Nouse livbiadridthat sneered,* he graft. hit 'the; litisteetibn i t t the 'pride -If they triuiled:Ofit of 4116 1 %0i/ond/ districts, 'hint particularlk: if eief 'went Vs Scotland or tiekmd; thiti might as well prolicsie thelniedtb tie tined art 85a:_ •It was - clear that die fattiltibieif the ;countty, iti• the peodUction'of cern, had tirriitel at• thin•l4i4ghk; that if kited not been fOr the Cern Bill; .ther. would not piobably MVO been able to hiteeprbrittetfl tuflicien del for their own. sustenance. l ::The had' ben dust:for IS montht, and that tinder elecittnete'neet of licit very' ptudattive harvest/. %if; 'therefore,' with shut ports, we had been - able to sup ply. Otirstilleffor eightsea titOatlis, he thotight, uncle'r i-irctifnA Mtes ' 'the experience of the Working of die-Bill since 11115 was not against it. With the tisintesedefereseice 'the - Agricultural interests; heittlight sae, eisidehafec tionate attachment towards them, he could not help thinking the limited question was the only- ohelhat r eitould be entertained either With peopriety or safety. M. H. SUMNER said he }leper, that neither the .. • • menaces .of the Noble Lord, nor the - alarms which were sounded on the'other side of the House, Would deter Hon. hfeinbees' from dhing theiedit. He c:nritendeN that in the Act 1815. we 'pretended to give n• protecting . price' of 80s. but, • in fact , we only gave. 743: . tegis6titiri intended to give that price,' and he considered it bet fah-, that the ComMitteeeibgeing into 'the inquiry, should in t are „how far that inteution was fulfilled by ' wo rking of the present laws. He should vote for Use A nend meta of his Hon. Weed, the Member toe,etiftext.i Mr., CALCRAFT opposed the motion: /le taw po nccessltj for'anyenlalgement of the ..ecie ct i ou h. ready enjoyed bj the agriculturists hi'ases;eseemeey un K 1 'I 1 •