Star. — London, England, 1829-03-24 00:00:00

~!", tined from the granting of emancipation to the Roman • Catholics. - He thought that when once they wee ad. twitted to power, they would go to any lengths to ad. IMMO their own religious tenets, and that inroads would be attempted to be made upon the Establishathareh. But he would net now dwell upon the subject, as he should take an opposition, in a fetes stage of the Bill of expressing his opinions more fully, and of pointing •out the dangers which he thought would arise.—Tbe Petition was then read, and ordered to be printed., li,. CURTEIS presented four' Padden., which he said were nemeroosly and respectably slgned.agairist ovicesidon. They were front Alpiston. from the Archdesconrr of Lewes, from Uckleld, and from Portadown. is she county of Misses. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE preiented a Petition from Ilminster, in favour of concession. The number of Pe titioos of this nature which had lately been presented to the Home from the county of Somerset proved, he thought, beyond the possibility of doubt,' the altered state of opioinn in that county. Now that • he Was ad dressing the House, be could not refrsin from calling its attention to the audacious and insulting denoncia lions which had been held out against theta who had voted in the majority upon the Catholic Question. Such denunciations would have no effect upon him ; he should • persevere in the course which he considered the eon scientious discharge of hii dirty ; but at the same time be thought that the privileges of Parliament had been attacked by a corrupt and venal press in a manner which was wholly unjustifiable. His own character bad been traduced in a manner which would justify • him in bringing up to the bar of the House some of the delinquents who bad attacked him; and he did • not dou'st it, if he did so that the House would visit them with its displeasure in such a manlier as to convince them that they had been guilty of a gross breach upon ;he privileges of the Parliament. It was not his intention, however, to appeal to the House for • the punishment of those who had so foully libelled int Ihe should leave them to themselves. But at the same time he begged to observe, that an influence and a power was held over the Legislature by the Press uhich was not consistent with its dignity and honour. The privileges with which Paeliameto .was endowed were given for the better maintenance of the liberties of . the people, and he was satisfied that those liberties were deeply involved when any infringement wits made upon the privileges of the House. It was time, therefore, that Parliament should come forward to assert and sup port its privileges, or they would be lost for ever. A • course of intimidation had been pursued from without which might lone deterred many Menthers of that House from doing their duty to their country in the try ing circumstan es in which they were placed with re spect tothe great .and momentous question which was now agitated in the House. He declared, for his own part, that be had never given a vote with more mental satisfaction thin that wnich he had given a short time since upon this measure—a measure involving, in his • opinion, all the vital interests of the empire.—The peti lion was th. n read, and ordered to be printed. . Mr. GUM weeded a Perking from Pembroke in favour of • the Lialons.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. T. F.STCOU LIT presented a Petition from the members of a Wesleyan Methodist Congregation of Mariborough ageism Con eession.—Ordered to be printtd. • Lord Cki A NOUS resented a Petition from the Magistrates, • Clergymen. and Freeholders of Eforidogbasn, against Concession. This petition. he observed, was got op at a meeting of twenty thousand persi.ns. among whom time was may .one dioseatkat wk.. 'Duo Nublo Luru alba promoted four mbet Petitions from 41iffrrtni places in Scodasul against C04C0111016-I)hey were an ordered to he printed. • Lord ROISERT MANNERS presented a Petition from two parishes in Leicestershire against Cutices.ino. Mi.ti. BA NKES said that he held iis.bia hand a Pe tition to which he begged to call the particular atten tion t f t , e House, .nit because there was any thing peculiar in the petition itself, but beentse a similar pe• tition from the same place having created some discus. Won in the House. lle did not wish it to he imagined _ that be should shrink fr-m any animadversions which . might be passed upon him.eit or thy cauw which he suprorled. The petiiion which he had now to present was ir 41) the Under Graduates and Bachelors of Arts of the Universjty of Cambridge, and was signed by upwards of 600 persons. Of this petition be (Mr. . Baiskes) bad no knowledge until it was placed in his hands threedays ago; but he understood. that the num ber of those who had attached their names to it consti tuted a very great.proportion of that class of the mem bets of the University to which they belonged. This number, however, great as it was, would - have been much greater but for the circumstances which be con sidered it his den to state to the House. The such°. rides who presided at the University had throughout the whole of the discussion upon' the Roman Catholic Claims been opposed to any petitions being got up at Canibtidge. They had lent no coutrenastee to the pe . titions which had already been resented from that place, and had been actitoin their ezeitirms to put them down. He (Mr.U. Bankilldid not in any degree mean to arraign that Learned east Hon. body for the dis ehergesof that which they considered on honourable duty ;loot at the same time he did not mgret that the Petitioners had broken thiough the strict mules which had been imposed upon them in order to espies, ti,gi f feelings upon this all inspoitar.t question' . and those tdembeis usho might -1 1 dAsed,to sopiehend them for (saving acted tomboy to f$ wish of tho e hho seri placed en authority over thafas k shoold 'intern* that if the step was unprecedented the occasion' was thyme , dented also. The fact was, that she yoprigm.ossflose names wer e attached to this petition reittitatihey must come f rward now os•never. Having oted-tbot ouch to the Hone. and dui - with the utoso.delercoce and rvapott to the heads of the Unteersity, he bad only to add that he thought a Petition hens such,' place, and from such persons, should have seine weiglit.,Tbe pe tition was then brought up. Mr. BATLEY said that this Petition 411 g bt net to be taken as severally apresside of the feeling of the University. sod it there • were any doubt wpm the question. the better way for Government would be to "pit a new /mousey General, wilts the matter *mild be peeved lelysod dispute. A*ee a few wards from Air. TIDIIITION and Mr. &MU the Pukka was bid alma the table. Mr. J. BROW Nit presented several Petitions ha favour of the Catholic Claims from plates la Ireland.—Ordered to be laid UP the batik. COHAN CATHOLIC HUM BILL. Seenstary Pin moved the Order of the Day for the amp lir Coulee itself into a Committee on the Rosman Catholic Waal. . OantallEßß having put the peelers, DenetP-OASCUYNIt did not rise he the purpose 4.renetelsi dil-ficioNlbe 'Peg this subject , to Keys= the elialslaas irons hi the - Chair. hot, u she prmi&M of the, Bill . • char, what*, vultites Acts of Paths/Dem do *Riot, which • to be reptekd, he wished to know to what Acts this pre boned. Owe of those Acts which bid been particularly was the Act of Union with Ireland. .111 e wand now as • • his modem, and %maid, therefore, nom, " That inalrectiens be petit N the Committee to inqaire into, and distinctly spirlfy, what Abets of Parliament verb to berepeaird, or infringed, by the Bill for the &het et the Roman Catholics." - Mr. Secretary PEEL said, there would be onsoroliteilipms to the proposition of the Gallant General; buck the 'toning IMO et thrprocerdlogs of the Hume, she Gallo! qiipeel WNW *not ate tbr`becouvenleoce of pressing k.* lig VOW / larfrfefes wytnc to Ms Nee. Friend that it be for the plea* withdratils• General GASCOYEK wield net soot pee kb abotioop but tumid Wag k forward la Cornatillem kh, Me Hew Own resolved halt hoe a Comasittee of the waiser Houle en Me Ream Orme* Raid DK .-, ' ' Oa the Awe mule tieing read, - - Mr. BANKES, sett. rose to propose, as an ainewda , , meat, the omission of that *titian if the Bill s erblels' went to admit Roman Catholics to seats in ParliaMent.' His main objection to the fieasure was their admission to the Houses of Parliament, and be felt it his duty to urge this objection by every means in his power. Such admission formed the substantive part of the Bill, and, though he should not object to their being entitled to other offices ' to this principle be could never agree. He felt perfectly satisfied that if this -ptivilege were granted—if Catholics were allowed to sit in Parlia ment—all expected securities would be perfectly vain, and the Church of Ireland could not long exist ; tor, when once in Parliament, the Iti man Catholic interest would be backed by so many other interests, that their power could not but be great, He did not mean that his observations should be offensive when he stated that the opinions of the Right Honourable Secretary and the present Lord Chancellor had been most conclusive upon this point. What could induce the Ca.holice, if power were given to them, to depart from the principle they universally acknowledged...of endeavouring to establish their own Church, which they believed to be, and contended to be,, so much better than ours? But supposing that, as some Hun t . Gentlemen supposed, the number pf Catholics that would be admitted to Parliament would be small, who would say that when once there they would nor increase, until they resem bled the grain of mustard-seed that continued to spread its branches until thousands were placed under its noxious shade? His objection was to the whole of the Bill now before the CoMmittee; but, as. this was the essence of it, the'prop by which every other part was supported, to this his opposition must be applied. In the motion he was ab3ut to make, however, he was guided more by a desire to discharge his duty than by any hope of sufficeediug in the object be bad in view.' He would, theeelste, move that the following words be inserted in the clau.e, " but nut to a seat in either House of Parliament." . Mr. G. 0. MOORE, in rising to second the ass tion of his Him. Friend, would not go over the ground that had been already so ably pursued,. but k • felt it - his duty to offer a few general remarks, with a view to state his strong objections to that part of the measure obich went to admit Roman Catholics into either House of Parliament. He would not follow his Hon. Friend the Member for Dorset. in declaring his satisfaction 'at their admision to other offices, for he would contendihat wit could not with safety admit them into any office by vir toe of which office they would pas take of political power. In arguing, however, against the expediency ofadmittingitomanCatholies into Parliament. he would confine his observations to the practical Jesuits of such a measure; and he would oppose the proposition of the Right Hon. Gentleman upon, the grounds he bad him self stated, viz. oche time has artived when you can with more safety admit the Catholics to Parliament than keep them out of Parliament." Now. with refe reace to such a position, the first step which ought to be taken was to ascertain in.wbat the danger counted, and this. he thought, could be best aseettained by a calm but efficient inquiry as to the objects held in view by the Roman Catholics in seeking admission to PAM mint. The next inquiry would be as to the pros• cution of those objects ohm in Parliament; and the nes as to the extent of their power trice, those cireumstances..m. NOP, iht .fist prop• sition could not be denied. That theßoinan Coholic (;hunch bad ulterior objects could not be for a momect questioned; nor could it be dirtied that they desired to exalt their own . church as 'churcb . establishment, and to degrade the Protestant church as a church establishinetr e • He had seen so many poise(' of their desire manifested Upon so many occasions; both by the Clergy and laity of that. chwch, that no doubt could remain of its esisrence. Nay, one of the grecest MU hot it ies of their church had given his testimony that Catholic Emancipation wes . bute step to the attainment of other objects. When be siw, th. n, such autliotities holding up the Established Chinch of these kingdoms as a 6'lN-et for execration, as an instituti.ia whichwensi sooner or later fall. c uld he entertain any doubt as to the directions of these ulterior objects? It should be re membered also,:hat those sentiments were not declared in the heat of Debate, or amid the excitation incident to a discussion, but deliberately uttered and deliberatly repeated—repeated loam one end of Iceland to the other. Was he, then, to •uppche that if the Roman Catholic Church obtained the power they desired that they would not use it ? Would it he denied that the Roman Ca tholic Church hadthe power, if they chose to exerci e it, of sending a number of persons to Parliante. t as the Representatives of that Church ? He mould not say that every Roman Catholic mho came to Parliament would be so circumstanced, for doubtless many of them would be desirous of promoting the true inimical of the coon. try, without any reference to the Wittiest, of that Church ; but he a ould say, that, when once an opening was made for the adm.ssion of Roman Catholics to Parliament, the natural result would be, that the mem bers so admitted would use elm y effort to accomplish the objects he had stated. He w. u:d put it to the Right Hon. Secretary alseMer, in a contest a ith such a putty" much woul.f not lie lost for the Con titutional party of the country= (Hex )—that party which was attached to the King and the Constitution ? Could any person say that the introduction of such a party, with peculiar ob jects, and with a derire to press those obj-cts by every possible means, would not be detrimental i s the sound principle by which a ti .vernment ought to be r gib laced? There was alga another co iaideration involvtd in this ipseblion. Such a pasty might have ample means of thwasting any Constitutional measure that 'might be brought fortsaid in that House. Tilereiere many ways in which this might be accomplished; even upon the simple question of adjournMent a pasty might away the House, and annoy his Majesty's Government -(Heal). If by the word" hear" it was meant that any .ucn proceedings had been adopted by those Members who were at present in opposition to Government, be would say that such an insinuation was utterly grimed less. Such means had never been resorted to bylines. Oa oile or two , ccasions it had been stated that the people had nut been sufficiently heard that they had out been allowed time to declare their sentiments; and there was a division upon this point. But with that division he, and those with whom he bad acted, bad been satisfied. That such a power, however, did exist was certain, for it had been exercised. He would, therefore. declare his opinion that, if the Catholics were admitted to poli tical 'neer, they would be admitted to an influence whisk must in time destroy the Constitution. 1. MN Secretary PEEL would thank the Hot:eatable Meisber to Dorset and the Honourable Member fist Dublin for the temperate appeal they had made to the House, and would assure them that their arguments bad lost none of their weight by such a coarse. He would at once admir, that there was some danger lo be ap prehended boo the admission of Roman Catholics into Parliament; bin h. *Gold contend; that there was greater danger to be apprehended from continuing to exclude them. Hi could not, therefore, agree to omit from this Ball that.whieb he eetuideled the leading . ,principle of it. If be were under the mocisity of spit ,fug this .oiding prjeciple, Joe certainly would mot con lent to the reshot@ of anti( the civil disabilities under which the Roseau Catholics lairegred,liecame.be .11 , 431 if. then-be unable to satisf y the tatholiew sod • produce ao benea i.l greets. The Honourable Iffember for Dublin bad stated that there was a very intimate union between the Roman Catholic laity and the Roman Catholic Clew ; and such might be the fact.— But this union diJ net seem to be a principle of the Roman Catholic religion. Such a union did not exist either in the Netherlands or in France, in both of which countries the Ristliati Catholic was the assabtisbed reli gion. It May therefore be safely infeired th it the anti. mate union which his Honourable F lend bad %token of had been produced by the existence of political dis abilities, and »cold be removed by the lemoval of h .as. His Honourable Friend had spoken of the danger of admitting Roman Catholic Members into t: at H n e; but did his Honourable FI tend. see no danger in the cis • sumstame that a lar g e pasty in that Douse always voted in the same manner upon the questiOn of Ronson Cathodic Emancipation for nearly sixteen years? The vo es if that Noise entouraged the Roman Catholic., aed incrietaeJ the general dissatisfaction. But *hat would the Honourable Member say to thepower which the Roman Catholics possessed of retaining to P.., hi.. mem such men as they be.i.ved devoted to then lute rem ? If this pouer was to be exercised under spiritual influence it would, in the present circumstances, give more power to the Roman Catholic patty in that a use thin they would possess aim the removal to the exist ing disabilities. Thepreseist influence he admitted to be dangerous, objectionsede, roof illegitimate; and. he thought that, in the present circurrisial.ces el tt cowl. try, nothing could be mete dangerous to the publ c lease than a eerier& electi .is riccuro mg whilst t r it - man Catholics coi.titseed in possession of the e.ectiie hanchise, and whilst they were excited by a Hoot Ift resentment at the exchnions to which they were subjec..l He must again appeal to what had been stated by the, Hon. Member loom Utsives soy at Oa ford, that tIA enty- Once other counties were ready to follow tie example, 01 the county of Clare. Was these no danger in this PI Ate Hon.iltember had said that they could met . t sent return Roman Catholic Members. But then it was not neeessaie that the Members reourned should be in communication with the Church of England; it was sufficient that they abjured the Church or Rome. The compromise which such a state ioduced .it was most *bitable to avoid, unless his Honourable Friend could, prove that it would he .safe to withdraw toe frail- . chise from the Roman Catholics without giviaki trioh son e 'other p.iviteges than they at present 'tool. — If the experiment should be made ousocces•ully. it would undoubtedly produce a much greeter mite? menu than existed at present. His Hontossahle Its-end rind dwelt on the effect, which - a Small Olirty we e able to produce in that H,oue by union, itod had refetreJ iss the conduct of Mr. Wilberforce and hi, fi sends dining the French war. But the case was certaiii.y not iu pint, as Mr. Wilberforce, in 1764. 'nought hermits: in that House his r.solutions in favour or • a peace, though the war continued down to the year 1804. mid . was at last cone u eJ by tither mean, then the its; iluence of that patty. At tie Union with Sccol.nd it had been said, a, upon the present occasion, that the intr .duction r f 45 Piesbyterian Members would pile. duce the seine effects which it was now said w too. f f low horn the admission Kr Roman Catholics 'But the event bad entirely falsified that predicti c, and the Scotch Members, instead of forming a compact body in opposition to the Church of England, were to be found tilting at all sides of the li-use. But he admi eed that some danger existed, and that it . ..as with isloc tante that he Woke in upon the Prates sot character of the House; but he preferied in this, as hi other parts of the question, to take the greater ge od, and avoid th. greater evil. He should therefore oppose the amend ment. and support the Bill as it stood at piese..t. Mr. TRAIT said, that he was anxious to say a re w words in *miser to Moulted been stated by the Kart Hots. Cientiernan, . He (Mr. Peel) had made a par a.tei befireen,the Roman Catholic religion in• Irel..id and the Roman Catholic religion in the Nettie. lands and in France. But this parallel could not hold, tot two rea sons; •first, because in the Netherlands, the Government exercised a direct controul toms the appointment of the Roman Catholic Clergy; and, secondly, because in the Netherlands as well as to Fiance, the Roman Catholic being the established religion, the Clergy were paid by she State. How could the Right H n.Gentleman maio tainhis mallet in such circumstance.? H. (Mr. Tratit) believed that the Clergy in Ireland not being paid by U State, and the mass of the people being 'entirely under the influence of the Clergy, it was impossible to depend upon that tranquillity which had been held forth as the certain& nit of these measures. The Right Hon. Geis- Osman had stated that at was not necessary that she Members returned to that House Should be Protes tants of the Church of England. Now. what it the bl.mbers who were not Poole. eq. of the Church of Englind should coalesce with the Home., Catholics They had lately had in that House a specimen of such a junction. This was a sample of the Doom sal ce.ali. lion between rietestatit, or all tiernei l isaatisens whi c h was to be thecon.equence f these measutes. He should now address homselt to some other observations ul the' Right Hon. Gentlemen. He (Mr. Peel) said thatle was not able to abide the event of a general election. But it be would only brace up'his nerves a little, and screw his courage to the sticking place, he would be, able to carry an election to a successful termination.... With regard to the case of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Ms. V. Fitzgesald), whom he was happy td see in his pi see— whit did his case prove bit the inspos ,isility of the Catholics being able to sati fy their wishes without injuring their interests? They were unable to ousttheM mi. terial candidate without deporving themselves of a Member and a vote. Now, with regard te. the number of the Catholic representatives, be( M r.Trant) recollected that in 1825 Lord Plunkett, alluding to the fears entertained upon the point, said that, although he did not participate in them himself, yet he believed them to be very generally entertained, and that he should therefore propose to limit the Dumber to twenty-five..— In all these discussions only Ireland had been meet ioned in reference. to this point; but were there no Romer, Catholics is Ragland? Were there no boroughs in dots country shoright of representing which was to be had by other mew than a popular election? Mr. Strict bad observed in the Catholic Association, as Why does not Lord Shrewsbory, as well as other wealthy Catholics in Englaad, apply some of their money to the purpose of purchasing seats for Members who were favoureble to the Catholic Claims ?" In such circum.tantts be (Mr Trott) wished to ask if there could be ady sectiiity when mosey to a great amount had been poured in upon the Catholics from all parts of the world, and when, es the Honourable Member for Cornwall bad Said. there were several Catholic conspiracies throughout Europe -osatesit not more wise, instead of looking for securities agasuM Ae Catholics when introduced into - Parliament,, to keep hem oat. Am/ether? A divine of the Cliuttit of England hada fifty pars ago, said that it Wee Tait/ to search for securities as loci formal reintneiation of the Dame of Constance, in which st bad faith was to be kept with heieties. cal'ed a Cosocil to contradict ell known that nothing less abrogate or intralidate she acts one, merefore, did n.,t consider , security for the Prose tans Chi except in the exclusion of the Parliame• t. Colonel LINDSAY expressed his t. clause now stades. consideration, because ► testaot Ratablislunent and the Protestant placed, by the provisions of this gill, condition than that ld which it stood au The House then divided, when there Fur she Amsodnieut. at I Against it, On out return to the 'allay we found mitts*, sod ern the kw clause being r , air. J. LOCK HA RT said that the late Kin 's reign to exclude Clergymen essinde Catletle Priests, and he did demise hi the present 13.11 that would ' linty wader tinsidsration a Human. 101111110, would be able to sit la Parliament. Sir PKKL said that he tbobgbt be Gratkosan complete satisfactinu. The . peovided that no person iu lady orders sa *sit in 1'341.m5-sit. The general impressional' 'faae that that en cumin was suicient to pru-• Roman Catholic Po lest ; but at the end a• timed what should be considered as being in holy orders. It was there sthatuistering the rites of the Churches would exclude the party: It would t that the Act did not cuotentplate the Priest ; at any rate, it left a doubt Gin the %Mum Catholic Priest should 4. than the Protestant Clew/man. lie had, glossy declaring' that IMO person receiving *Church of Rome should be able to sit in that the performance of any rite or ceremony ‘-` pillar fisait evits:net• at the fact. 11. CLARKE asked whit was spiritual authority of the Pope is bighted i hlr. PRIM said that this tiptoed so with that yams it was the wish of the House—e• think hind better be deferred tu a futi Mr. S. CLARK Renewed to the . debate as the subject toe future occasion. Mr. MOORE wistieJ to kisow Meant by the teottla'' pride sing religion r The.word.or ti.e clause enacted, that, from and after the Act, it shall and may be lawful' the Roman Cottolic telsgion to he couid not see how the words Catholic teligion'could be •e• fat as he Could see, a man miii, wilt not 4,r f.ss himself as such, House without taking the •oalh ilefore.thens. He was yid that the Oath of Suptem st y tient, tot t ley wowd find that baying. iu the reign. ut .4 , :b41 les Oatb.nf "Sqpramacr. and to tae clatation was fr4abed as a farther If Catholics should ,now bee no objection to Lae the 04k Ol . . net profess thrusbeives Caiholki oaths now named for them. and Pa , Lament without giving the au security. . , • Secretary -PEEL said, *wild find in a clause at • the , distinct enactment. welding that sing the IfOraan . Catholie religion tithe( House . f Parliament, with and sabscribed.the oath ihat subjict to the Snipe penalties . 'vatted in the case o 1 persons bitting .Hause at Parliament. without tak making the declaration now required ca and made. To suppose the use of be a Roman Catholic was supposing case ; but even in that case such gaited to tike the Dal of su presume , jured all ecclesiastical ab t spiritv of Rome iu England. was. he ' to 'moire from even a Roman to the words 44 professing the Roma , he hadahought it best to use one ihrougbout the Bill. IIe.MOORE did ass object to a uniform , he wanted was sums immediate teat might be discobered ea mitering that of es after Investigation into matters Mr. L. FOSTER said, that the Hos. • what had beet dads to the retold Charles.. kit that the object then was to 'Wade • object was Dow to admit them. Two climate, to Parliament, either of wt He might either take that which required Act to be tate°, at he might take that 1 religisis, or of no 'A t ka ; in which the oaths of supremacy, of allegleactr. against transubstantiation. But which peuded entirely upon his own consciences Mr. MOOR R said that k most be quite vie* Rielieping of the Roams Catholics they took the oaths required is this *ll. leowledged that they were keidateag art. the question was, whether they she. a portion orbs value, which they would an unerring test to show that .et puma is nut a Roman Cathisik7 He could I teat iiatting had created more ikiga. doing acts which,retdered it necessary were Catholics or Prweitants. to ascertain whether Fetesas eonsiatter. vet or nut. it would be necessary to pied special provisions. Mr. 8. BOURN R paid. that Epsilon h:Repatiits 'Catholics they would be obligedlos •,.. - !Te4 ; SOLICITUR ORMlLlitAla rid, th •ttSulatt golf it alypriallawk by eive:daero; ai in by eating thiOath 1 Syrearsey ' Pay . ,4 anti he would do it et his lotaiesse nltti all the disabilities aid 'potables. fi rove that a man profeestd the Roman be really helisved In it, as.Fratessioa was . rojeect comeived the Act woad Imperfectly' Er R. INGLIS solvated aa asmadasent - of more eirstosolly eaciadiag Paraamist. amatory PIM emetelved that =beat some ilea would be r isorodemA N ith. ' Mr. FRAWILLD thought It would spot the farm at raclosim wise the their coosideradon. • Mr. HUSEISSOIf was depletes, the dedication phut traesehethedatia, SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, ainalhl to sit most take three astir. 0- M. Cohan would have to take . Whig three awl i sing the declaration dole& The MN bed been framed is -' He. htethrr. Hitskissoo), with clear mod e Mr. Secretary PEEL observed, that . out rite weeds, as they were merely phrases Er IL INATCHBULL wished to kw nebulae of Catboat Meets from Pa:Sawa santhers straight* setiaths? 3tr. y PRIM soli that lathe ;" Rouses Cadet's Prints fro, Hesse, he ended se pewee. a provides mss Catholic to hely eastere - shelohl he NM Ia shoat Itaisse. sad 11 elsesedi that isid• Mt! reilleiNt *SY elltelaS le h art we* milady be the lanherffiel Illighthe deemed essential. , • •asa., teemonts.t.'s. ELIIIIIIIII2IIT Mr.-HORT GRATTAN wished re know V the words "• her professing the Salsa Catholic taskin g NW IS petrel ro ' -_i I . - glee. theft Wits erne a n y s .• .. dm. Ramis •. • Of the C o n nell • tw i t MI How at • d been declared that • fedieltinaleeppeolit • s e Mr. Seeretay PSI tics. The Pope had , . ••w•tt rains.. It a Rams • this doctt ine, and ii Ina . . deb au 14 would . is thin a C. uncil could ea= Ilserio.presedbod ;$ of a Crime!. H e. f at ' divined is the Pr that these could be ass would be re titutio e — 1 k was only lei tideway Church and Con s . Sir. S. RICE rose t . Roman Cstholie s f ront recent %smile et Mm I • • Catbolic came before Is determination to vele f ee* reference to tbat ease. muse be eeneeie e d t h at the pm, Med open the strict v tenant Conatitiales wavy ' seepose a paha that mig ill, in a muds better anises * illetZ gement hirer J. RUSSELL I at present. nd tine um In Cm* • --- r ier ov e appeared .s- ie supposed cam were deti IT e Llse e r. .A seeee tt : ot ela tee Clu p : P ih°lll rles izE l L d est lt, en 7 I Majorkyan. ng read. . he Act which was pendia die Act to Catholics not ilea hum Parliamen t did '`''''' .:, iretiblish Ids right to sit ill wit tit s that there wee ~.r. • '-- introdseed in theAet to . •-' of the line. Ile did out I keep bias eat. By die Catholic hie., it ot • plicable. Mansion. . • Lord J. RUSSELL t be cork give the Handers% =eft than another. be Ace of the 41st of the Ens speaking et pitman Cat ' er P rell :'" 41abrhele.liag r itlidi ulati le II" •- * o The f 4 Par lra. ;:ine e7e a d t, e 'c a ll : P it : d eg :a rat to provide,far tbe mad e noiseible as others. end et that Art It wan msg. prose facie rekknee eta ems Mr. M. FITZGERA declared that eaciadeg beer. liable tard (Lord John dies of Ensisad•or of Ikeda' -. Mr. H. GEATTAN wtirdalud been Intorpol. ld rertaioty appear, therefetet that the words *, No be Cale Or a dOllllll Catholic Lord DU PICA PI NO st Mich eight net to esie t i, . • e had. *berating, in his basalt . Id not be in a honor altsatim .4 . . • . ~...........d i n." ; aye 11 ..!!cl "mut . —---7 11elsrevr tit the weeds a s tendrils holy eird‘rs irons elude I partlieler Ind' • It in that Ilium. and . 'Has. Friend, the Menthe iteny of the Church of Remy The words must have the 11111; but, necessary was to be die extent of &ad? Gentknein oppo4te w • es, wide .gekt fora . the exclusion of use man. Mr. GItAT'CAN - use•—(•• No, no - )—be The clause, inctoding t i:urc oppurtaany. Sm. was that pot from t r expediency at deny* ' Yr. BUTLER CLA n. subject to taking the oat Ise aim thing of what • . - • He had us eblectdue to tug the Roman Can caught Prolamin °alb . clause were, " and be s . Pape bad so:agielsoal ea . he c nimiiicenteht of the . . PEEL aid this ... • cup was me that ea for any person pitiless.% Sr. atooßE said, st t ) bit. auJ vote, * etc. Non, . wigs-the temporal 5 " pi Ofersing the a a ue! ,.. renew of the Spirited an iiit that power ef exconsnus weal 01 on as a teat. As , erbieb bad the effect of • ,hi be a !Limn o Catholic ..• hi. hi sim i, ; and if b e we , i, end tbuo cursie into the - • A .few years Mee a cata th provided , tie t' , e glass . egeolluelotitokli kiwi. the means of his spirite it he :tepulif hare to take ' Bench decided that he It . thit wci . ele4rly not sot sham b e hogged us at 1111.stbiSS of CathOliti ::!. lipiritaa Cesnank lea the Necklet, taken the :4 IIir•HOLORWORTH r into that House, the de. 4 cidiakehoew mats • • • • • my mike* is Cher stead Almost menus: M t . pio u. b 23;7 4 . eatiorboalso,would have& swear ibis tie Metall Al Supientael l il they did. b; .• atatmalaY 1 1 this Ita-they ssaeld avoid the :- i t ti re e r " d 4 • 1 1, 4 ;TC '. ' s ad irrOsisi,thillia-come ifill • • bi g dgeste r hi sk en d dee .. e Hc•uSa iti the cousitri littered. •••' • After a few *barna - that . t bi t i n a . * m o m ..., was, the amendment was Mr. BATLEY slowed, WO ..f the third pager •.. m a mmon e l • yes b that if any person proles .... • . ma* buds and ether lie • ;son shall sit land vote is . . Mt. liattesalf NMI. . .. , - mood, Included e v e ry • ithout hilllifit Urn takes Mr It I NG, i e lS 4414 t Act appointed. he shall lir be thosight the weeds ties as are bylaw nee ' ••• well as every other specks bitting or nos i ng i n * th ee .. After a few words from q at utre ta d ki b a ir s y s a h e e t n o a be ths ta a k ad el yy , .. : re ..lir. HAT LEY wit • br. I. US " il I ts7 4l G7 r triot a c Ise of ' a Mart who might ' • were folly suillicient. posing rather an einem s - - A lkl i r t . e ' r M a 01,1)0,110.arlsoda Iron thou Kb a man would be le. ! : • lot a division, when thtre a nemacy, which, as it abr. r -For the original Mori. 'quad authority of the Ste thought, quite sufficient.: Klan our return to the Catholic. •V'th respect i... W. ESTCUt; It? eh hi toms.% Catholic teligiim: -i aseixtb: the I nset 41iesie a t° ied'i the w ieutl one uniform designatim • ' Church." Mr. & cretary PEEL la uniforms dealgoadasti but whit •'• s . ever for the ward' Forts( tby which a Roma Cabala ...v.'. . • thatit which was even .. t House without the eeesseby'sa'- • ' 1 " of lbe° l witaid ha • i of last. he would therefore oppose des. umber teat rekree g le i .:. • After a few Wteik tram barks. IL bet he &Gold rad. --- Mr. Secretary PEEL ,_ ..._ 41 ...,, g _ h .,. : . *sem the i, •,:•. • would recolket that the ' e 7 3 ` e s e Z de ';;;;;• •• — " wereed fa - . test. .= take the oath which ihich the Cathohc asight tabs the Seeranseutal Test. . dud the maths provided in sli Mr. C. -W. W YNN posslk caste, and therefor OM provided for doom of oder kb case he would have to tat ' " Mute effective it Would - • • Mr. C. •PA LL M lilt asp ce. and make the declared. . • After a few words (runs itch road be would take do •-• knee. cleared for a division: wh e n t qii*e cleft that they bad h . Far the utiginal Met Majority • sulks out et Pullmans sale • ' ' • Upon air re admission. SUL • Having, is page two, it • ig open tbapeincipie of ma . Mr. •bitninli on Ur leg in the ...eh, wish t h e uncut should deprive-this Omsk, e mild do if they did am swell * P rebel "'Y' a wbe , dais not " he doe eat tp• . Mr. necessary PEEL at • • • 1 asaire.his Right Hon. Fried t It would be it s h e tarst • • gadon in than Irelandprom •'. Orner.l Gat liii:01( ary m ascertain whether din - to be agreed In. Lord al I L FUN t ad, its se ing.that thize was a dill* .. - Member was mote esseee k .. (dewed were R"urrCAt„ .Ermatsto religion irae — lC goad against that dilleldri " 7 ' Mr. Al t)OIt If, requested noes did not come forward a Lord MILTON ...id, di teeled, namely, the Pretests Igedm take a strongly gob' raigieo ; and this Wet G. is* dim the OWef that " .„___ . ryes • tese:deors; end If a" Cath 4B .I:ner ''' -. 111 (A I. l :). ward. the* =el it would be by the wren' After a lew il word. f eassn nag peril, being duo abject P Unser. and Sr It. Imo Up tbeeslit it mach esekr no Mr. llial/lt It withdrew. au Catholic rebgion than that was an eastward at. la that . .the Si o t arit. l : i th. G , L ip la to ". be 411 prof Imperfectly oleo . - ending= to theism% f or ~.„1 „ , they at parson stun I. . Alter a tew WOl4ll truss i Raman C.atboilt rtietteww* r . amendment warttegativeil On the motion that the c l *at the chose which he had the Marquis of Uremia nos grid w num elfeetealikaa the lif ilea. ius a Ur. Secretary P would be time MOO " .. ..,,, ew jC . agreed jittrepsn at CHAN r Mese came MOO " T --- but again withdrew is, and L othatshoonetimainbewleftordasstrahtbi: lP .Tb s t uumulem ar. el l i a i rit L .4si d ,of C , Ht: N ob l i ) , k a, " e b ees tit that , fotat after M : dn tbe ssai lwahlii: pbga be er l t, ... t., 6 illi_ sa Geoa liel :r i lai N F A ß T ß c i H U ß S U O L N L sa aeration again tremsobrea. . shot tales, ono helped it the weeds refettesitel#l o r . . General FEGUSON • • I the view et metier k mess . i be beans. of any one. .___. ihilordered to be remains . hat he had waobiewlie wt• '''" at 'lle Seggallsou of /dr. : *awe el saryisompe. • .._ ~ he ramped at aim o'clock. to know if the chose lV Er_ The Innkeepers' Age* , - arnemsae wealim k• sal um • &poet this day. ... .•. • The remaining Orders ha the dense to be =lol6l6. l __ w _M . Jam= at am donne a. 2 triolog • Maskaira di vision to tbe ease fist ne Ito be eligible to be elms= to • _ ...At p Protestant Mre! hat the said 'lntim alibi ' mat. iligetings m in e is the * t eet h" eieer d e ge, es 4 Rat ' : i t, •!peaping him to e a re 'fee insert* any di* .. the rarikaseot, to or. .: IP" , lUeotow before . u.nv To • • ISM ado llato e t ..d is &sm. if the words "le r";_ jawed. • '