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would hive drawn from the Orphans' 'a51.6721. and they ought. therefore. account of their finances before they rr -.41 grar•t which they trquired. Under the circusistanees of the ease he should no tardier Ness his mntinn, it being understood that no obstruction triguld be , in the Committee made against the prodnc. Oen of thr-e accounts. nett Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. T.YTTLIMON presented two Pebbles from the city of Litchfield. complaining of the present state of the elective franchise. in consequence of the usurpation of two mottle families. Mr. WODR HOUSE presented a Petition from Canterbury,ln favour of the Rest India Oates MIL Mr. OIdiZILL noved an Address to his Majesty, for an ac count of the number of voters for each of the cities and boroughs of Great Britain. Mr. H. GRATTAN presented two Petitions from Parishes in Ireland against the Sob letting Act. Sir J. MACINTOSH moved for leave to bring in a Bill to make compensation to the sufferers by the insolvency of the late Registrar of the Supreme Court of Madras.—Leave given. Mr. PANE postponed his motion for a new writ for East Ret find, to tomorrow steonight. Mr. DOW NIE presented a petition. from Stirling, against the Scotch Gaols Bill. Mr HUSKISSON presented a petition from Ashton-under- Line, against excessive taxation ; and a petition from the Anti bread Tat Association, Kidderminster, against the Cora Laws; and a petition from the merchants of Liverpool, for the admission of foreign sugar to be relined in this kingdom; and a petition from the traders of Liverpool, in favour of a law for the recovery of small debts; sho a petition from Liverpool, praying for the repeal of the prixage and butterage of wine imported into that pert. The Right lion Geodesy's' stated that those duties had been perchased fee the public in all the other ports of the kingdom bat Liverpool and LUlCallter. Mr. BARING postponed the Committee on the EMI India Offices 13.11. The, Nis:gals of TAVISTOCK presented a Petition from a Hundred in the county of Bedford, signed by all the Magistrates and !with officers, complaining of the state of the labouring classes of that empty. Mr. SLA N EY called the attention of the House to the petition, which contained a frightful picture of the state to which the abuse of the poor laws has reduced the labouring population. It was not his intention to press the Labourers' Wages Bill this Session. but would bring it forward neat Sonia. Mr. II U MR said he could not bear the distress at the labooring ;emulation attributed to the pour laws only. when he was convinced the earn laws had a great share in producing that dare*. Mr. BRIG HT presented a Petition from the Parish of Hackney ageless the Metropolis Police Bill. He thought no case was made out for passing the Bill, and that the parishes were bat able to take care of then own affairs. Mr. PEEL said. nothing could be more fair than the manage In which the lion. Gentleman had called attention to the sobjeee. Al the yokes times that the severity of the criminal code was bra* under the consideration of the (louse, the state of the police et the metropolis was always regarded as one tithe coward theistical* of crime. Con ' ees had made uniform reports that 11111811141 effectivel could be done without improving the police, solids they recommended should be put under one bead. and the Margot estabiishments of the police be consolidated. As soon as the Ce. tholie Hill was disposed of he brought in the present Bill, en the ISth of April, and the Bill had now arrived at the third remits* , and but one parish had petitioned against it; and nets Hackney could nut be said in petition against the BIS, but only that they should not be included in its provisions. He admitted that Hackney was well governed. but what they appeared to be afraid of was expense, and be could assure them the charge should be less than at present. But though Hackney was well regulated. the effect al the neighbouring parishes. according to the Ater of the parish,was to drive the thieves out of Hackney into Tottenham, where there were sixteen burglaries committed,and three attempted in six weeks. It was ineurnhenc on Government, when such facts were proved. not to connive at the system by which they were produced. At present the parishes were like little independent kingdoms. and a WOCiMI3II had power to act at one side of Oxford-street, but not at the caber; and the same was the case in many other places.— While things remained in that state, crime could not be effectually repressed. Sir JAM ES MACINTOSH said he had attentively consi dered the Reports cat the Committees cm this subject, and perfectly concurred in them. He hoped the capital offences on the Statute. hook would be fur:her limited. Mr. LEN NARD thought the reason there were no more mil itias against the DM, was the little observation with which it bad been Slowed to proceed in its stages through the House. He thought it would be an important improvement to have more fre quent gaol deliveries He regarded the Bill with a coastitutional jealousy, as giving usolue power to the Minister of the Crown, by placing an nominee twee at his disposal. He thought it the Bill must pass, the City of Loudon should be included in it. If this Bill pasted, leignebester and other places would follow the example. Mr. IiSTCOURT thought it necessary that there should be an uniform system of police, as the only means of affording general security. Mr. PEEL hoped Manchester would follow the example—that they would establish a civil forte sufficient for their protection, and net make it necessary to place the military in cotton mills for their security. Mr. Alderman WA ITH MAN said the City of London was so well governed by its Magistrates. that it did not require any inter krence. Mr. BROUGHAM moved for a Return of the number of Causes standing for bearing and judgment in the Court of Chancery on the appointment of the Commission in the year 1809, and from May 1791 to February 1791.—Ordered. Mr. PEEL said be should not press the coosideradon of the liaise to the subject of the Chancery Bill, brought up from the other House of. Parliament, this Session; but oo the earliest oppor tunity next Session, would introduce a measure connected with the adnunistretion of Equity proceedings. Mr. M. A.TAY LOR said he bad not reined in his endeavours to put the Court of Chancery on a looting favourable to the rights of the subject ; but unless the whole state of the Court could be Sully discussed, It would be imitate bring it forward this See- Soo, though the state of the Court of Chancery was now tea times wont that, when he originated the inquiry. Dr. LUSHINGI ON hoped the whole slate of the Court would be subjected to revision nest Session. He confessed be was disape painted at seeing no step taken but the mere palliative measure brought forward by the twinned Lord in the other House. Mr. PEEL said it was the intention of his Noble Friend to in troduce other measures besides the Bill that bad posed the House of Lords, and that was his chief reason for not pressing that Bill this Session. Nr. P. BUXTON moved for a return 'of the slave population in all the colonies. distinguishing the number of each ses.--.Ord. Mr. BROUGHAM wished to know whether it was the inten tion of Government to bring in a 1.1.11 for the &alai= of slave evidence in the Courts of the Colonies. Sir G 101 ItG K MURRAY thought slave evidence ought to be received, and hoped to bring in a 801 l for that purpose next Session. In some Culottes it was admitted, on the slave producing a teed monial of his competence from his religious instructor—a condition he' did nut approve tat, as he thought religion ought to be introsluced into the been of man by persuasion, not compuleku, or hope ut teapots! benefit. Mr. BROUGHAM was perfectly satisfied with the statement of the Right Hon. Gentknian, that it was the determination "I GoverNment to awake. the measure next Session. Mr. L#USKISSON hoped the Cownies would follow the example of the country, by abolishing all penal laws against Catholics. SkJAMRS MACINTOSH said be had great confidence in the good intentions of the Secretary for the Colonies. Sir ROBERT WILSON and Lord NUGENT inquired when the West India Commission would close its labours? Sir GEORGE MURRAY said the Commissioners had stated to him that they would close i eir reports by the cud ut the pre sent year. Mr. BROUGHAM thought the admission of slave evidence one of the moat important steps that could be taken towards the emu►. vpstion of the slaves. Mr. UROUG HA M presented a Petition from Joseph Ashley, of lisiluburgh, for an iniptovenwat in the law of patents. Mr. VIIEEN presented a Petition from the Pon of Lancaster. for the abolitiou of the butlerage and priuge of wine. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, it was " moat desirable to abolish those duties, and stepe should be taken for that purpose. - - cowsurm OP SUPPLY. The CHANCELLOR at the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the 1)..y ter the Hoeft to resolve kself into a Committee of Supply. . . • Mr. lighlE said, he hear d it reported that it was Wooded to suprrainiiste alle. of the Barons of the Eschequer, who was per t. ctly to perform 'he Judie of his ease. and to harden the country with hi. retired allowance. Ile wished to know wh. tiler suclian ii.tesstion existed? '1 he CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he had not bard of any such intention. Mr. tHIAISON said, lie understood from the ChutesDor of the It schequer kit Searles dui he would burakett a menento for the ma i lbag of the Usury Laws, so far se regarded macaw* truism:doss. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said be approved sof the measure. bat did sot think he bad promised to lntrndsce it. Mr. P. THOMSON • id. if it wen not btrodueed by Minis ter. pest Session. he should lamed introduce such a measure fatly hi the nest Session. Mr. IRVINE hoped the Chancellor el the Bulimia would Introduce such a momentum Session. Mr. HEATHCOTE said he should oppose it. On the mation of the Ca•iscatcos of the ikorenstso. the Com mittee of Supply was postponed to Wednesday, and the House re solved itself into a Committee on the Sow Duties Bill. Mr. C. GRANT rose to move a resolution of which he had previously given notice. The Right Honourable Gentleman stated, that from what passed in the House last year he bad expected that the Right Hun. Chancel. for of the Exchequer would have proposed a reduction of the duties on sugar. and he was satisfied that such a reduction might be made without difficulty. He con. tended that high duties lessened consumption, and by that means were actually injurious to the revenue. The Right Hon. Gentleman entered into some details to maintain this position, and referred to the articles of French and Portuguese wines. and of tea, upon which he contended that a greatly increased consumption had followed the ?eduction of the duty, and a consequent in crease to the revenue instead of a loss. If the reduction of the duty on sugar were only one halfpenny per pound it would have the same effect, and enable the poor to consume that article of necessity, as well as of comfort and comparative luxury, to a much greater extent than they were now able to do. If it were n y, he might enlarge upon the injustice done to the East In dians, and show the great privations they suffered in consequence of the present system. It was, however. sufficient for him to contend, and to show. as might be easily done, that the West India proprietors were themselves hurt by their monopoly. The West India proprietors had no just ground for apprehending any danger from the importation of East India sugar. la the last year 3,965,000 cots. of sugar were imported from the West Indies,and only 156,000 cwts. from I heEast Indies, and therefore it was monstrous to suppose that the East India sugar could expel the West from the market. Indeed, if it were likely to do so, how was it that it did not find its way more into Europe, for the ports of the Continent were as open to it as to the sugar (tom the Brazils, Cuba, Hayti, and other places. An other consideration was, that the present system en couraged the Slave Trade, inasmuch as we exported to the Brazils merchandise to the amount, official value, of 2.800,0001. while t.ur imports from the Brapils amounted only t .1,300.0001. the difference, 1,500,0001. being used in the exportation of sugar from the Brazils to the Continent of Europe. But it there were no other considerations, he felt himself justified in the resolution, he intended upon the bare facts that the revenue of the' country would be benefited by the change; and also that those who were immediately concerned would be Believed. The Right Honourable Gentleman them moved to the effect that the duty on West India sugar , be seduced 7s. per cut. and that the duty on East India, sugar. 975. per cwt. be reduced to 255. per cwt. The motion having been seconded, Tne CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said be agreed with maoy of the arguments so ably advanced by his Right Hon: Friend. hut until such a reduction could be effected in the duties as would ensure such a tall in the prices as would largely increase the con sumption in the home market, he felt himself bound to maintain that system which had been pursued for so many years with advantage. The /Pose had pledged itself to maint4in a surplus revenue tif 3.000.0001.. and it would be dangerous to adopt any measure which might lead to an infringement upon that pledge. His Hoo.Friend proposed a reduction of seven shillings on the cwt of West India sugar, which was about three farthings on the pound. Such a reduction he contended would be but very little felt by the consumer. and consequently a very small increase in the consumption would take place. Much had been said respecting the increase which had' taken plate in the consumption of coffe -, in consequence of the reduction of • the duties r but then it should be remembered that so large a reduction had been made, that the article, formerly a luxury, was now to be ob tained by tie middling classes. and even by the poor; therefore there could be no just argument drawn as to the probable increase in the consumption of sugar from a small trouction of the duty. because the consumption of coffee, under a great reduction of duty, had mate ?tally increased. Again, with re-pest to smuggling, so small would be the reduction in the duties, that the al lele ion in the price could be very small indeed. But ' let the House look at the prices; in 1815 the ctn. of sugar was 975. 10d. and in 1828 it was 58s. the cwt. In these prices the duty was included. Now, although the difference in prices was great, no proportionate increase in consumption had token place. The utmo.t increase in the coosumption they could calculate upon, in con sequence of a reduction in the duties of 7 , . in the cwt. was 500,000 cwhand that was an increase which would in so way compen.aie to the revenue for the loss it must sustain. The loss to the revenue with that in crease of consumption would be about 560 0001. He should be told that the loss would be but tempo rary, and such might be the fact ; but what he wished to impress on the House war, that it would be unwise to abandon a certainty at a moment of pressure for the sake of a possible, and, at all events, a distant gain. He had already said that he agreed with his Right Hon. Friend in the general tenour of his argument. and he would add that under different circumstances he might not have felt it his duty to oppose the proposition. Whatever might he the objections to the present duties, it could .not be urged agai. st them that they acted as an eiscoutagenient ti e commission oh Crroes. Mr. BRIGH r entirely agreed with the Right Han. Member (Mr. Lis ant) in thinking that the duty on West India sugar should be reduced; the reduction proposed was not more than the West Indians were entitled to. In the war time, when a sum of money was required, a new duty was imposed on sugar, and the West Indians were lola that the tax was only for a year; but it had been continued ;ear atter year, and now it was called permanent. Many interests had been relieved, but the Culuitivs were hitherto excluded from consiJei ation. and are saw but tittle chance of a better system sift) respect to them. Theitight Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Grant) hod proposed also a reduction on East Indian sugar ; but to that he (Mr. Blight) could not consent until the too countries were placed upon the same tooting. Tile East Indies enjoyed tree trade with all the world; but to the West Indians you said—" You shall take our manulactures. and ours alone." Give the West Indies a free trade, arid he would no longer object to, an equalize• on of duties—(Hear, hear). It a free trade were granted, how great would be the chinger From the conduct of Hayti the 'latish manufacturers naught learn ; indeed so great would be the change, that he Was COOTII•Ced the pasties interested in this county not in the West ladies, would even consent to it. did not dispute respecting the goodness of the policy pursued towards the West Indies, but he contended that if Colonies were berthened as they were they ought to receive protection. Would the British manufacturer and landowner give up the monopolies they enjoyed over tl e West Indian proprietors for the sake of the burets - which would take plamin the corsumption If seem ? He was satisfied they would do no such thing— (Hear, hear). He contended that the admission of I foreign sugars would cause an increase in the slave trade That increase was actually going on. and was car• tied to a most daring height. There was an island called Madagascar. and the HoJse had been induced to admit the danger of that island under the supposition that the slave trade had ceased there. That. however, was a most doubtful question; and at the best our faith was placed in a barbarous Monarch. That good sort of S4vage was now dead. and be much feared a change id policy. To that point he c 411 rd the attention of Go vernment. He had heard that it had been intimated that evening that this country would interfere directly with the legislat►►res of the West India Islands. If an) such proceeding should be attempted, it should have t is most earnest opposition. He supported the proposition for a reduction ►n the duties on West India sugar. but opposed that part of the motion of the Rt. Hon. Gent. (Mr. Giant) which had reference to East India sugar. Mr. W. WHITMORE supported the proposition of Mr. Grant. He maintained that the surplus of the revenue could not be better applied than in the re duction of the duties in question, and he was sure that if this Session should pass over without the adop tion of so liberal a plan. in the ant it would be acceded to. With respect to the monopoly of the market in the West Indies by our manufacturers. he was satisfied that it would he readily foregone by those, if the principles of free trade were fully acted upon. Mr. BERNAL advoc •ted a reduction in the duties on West India sugar. and contended that if such were the case the consumption would be vastly increased. — With respect to a reduction in the duties on the East India sugar. to that pr 'position he could not consent until the West Indies should enjoy a fiee trade. It was said they did at present; hut the fact was adverse to that assertion. Take, for instarce, the article of herrings. Upon every estate cohtaining2so negroes.7o to 100 casks of herrings were consumed. Those herrings o ere sent from the East coast of Scotland ; and each ton herrings cost at present 275. 6d. while the same article was to be purchased in N rway at 10s. or lls. per ton. That was a grievance. though it was very for from b. ing the only one; but whatever might ultimately be the deci sion of the House with respect to an approach to an assimilation of the duties on the East and West Indian sugars, the question appeared to him to have' been urged at a very unwise period. They had hefoie them the vast question of the renewal of the Ent India Company Charter; and when that subject was reg. lady under discussion, would be the most fitting time for the House to settle the point respecting East India sugar. Mr. TRANT contended that the proposition I f the Right Hon. Gentleman was a measure of substantial justice to the East Indies. In consequence of the preient system. much of the trade of the East Indies went to foreign ports. If he thought the proposition would do any injury to the West InJia proprietor, it should not have his support. Mr. DOUGLAS said the duty now proposed to be reduced was, strictly speaking, a war duty. It was therefore reasonable to expect that it would be reduced now. after so many years of peace. He trusted the subject would be seriously looked into next Session of Parliament. Mr. HUSKISSON said he agreed with his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor oh the Exchequer, that in a question of this kind they were not to confis.e their attention to the single consideration of reduction of duty. They must look at all the various interests con. nected with it—the interest of the West and the East Indies, of the Shipping. of the British Refiner. and of the numerous class who might derive employment from the extension of the trade. In addition to this, how ever, they ought to look to the interests of the pub lic—(Hear, hear). He felt so strongly the claims of the West India planters that he should not wish to see other interests promoted at their expense. He was persuaded that so tar from being Mimed the West India interest would be advanced by the change pro. posed. His Right Hon. Friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) said the revenue derived from the snide of sugar was 5,000,000 f. and he seemed to argue as if it must always continue at that amount. Now that was a principle he could not admit. If there were good ista-ons for a reduction of any branch of revenue, the mere cir cumstance of its necessarily leading to a diminution of receipt would not be sufficient argument against it. The loss to the revenue was calculated at St O.OOW. but then it was admitted that there must be an increase of con sumption, and this would, at least in some degree, com pensate for the loss. Whatever the loss might be, still, when greater and more important interests required the modification of any duty, they had only to consider how it could be best effected. Looking at all these interests, he did not think the loss to the Revenue ought to outweigh them. Not less than 70.000 tons of sugar were esportcd last year from the Brands, in payment for English goods. Now, under a differ eat stare of the law, the whole of this produce might have been brought bete, and given employ ment to British refiners and others connected with that branch of trade, which was a very important and extensive o e. The consequence of this state of things was that acre trete at present on the Continent many refiners who carried on their business with British capital. It was a short-sighted economy that looked only at a present reduction of the revenue to the amount of 200,00 W. or 300.00 W. The present great consumption of coffee arose from. its cheapness. Per haps two thirds of those who used coffee now drank it without sugar. if sugar wete cheaper, they would use it, and the consumption would be in proportion to that of coffee. The Member for Bristol (Mr. Bright) was not cortect in saying that this country enjoyed a monopoly iii the supply of the West • ladies. With the exception of fish and salt provisions, they might have from other countries any articles they wanted. They wese not precluded either from importing or exporting. The proposed reduction would be for the advantage of the West India interest itself, and give new life to these Colonies. He trusted a subject of so much importance as this would not be indefinitely postponed. It was said that the West Indies were obliged t.* take their manufactures. All the world, as well as the West Indies,were obliged to take them, in consequence of their supra tor cheapness; this could not, therefore, be com plained of as a grievance. Oo these grounds be would support the Resolution. the Cusirest.Los at the Rxennastaa sad Mr. Bessie espideed Sir R. FARQUHAR said the Slave Trade had bets completely estingui•hed in the Mauritius. He emoted that the Inquiry. so far as regarded his esmdect whileGovemer there, bad act bees fully gone into. A Clumnderee was appointed four years back to inves tigate the subject. ctrl the evideste amorist* brake down unlit the Hos. Geothous opposite (Mr. F. Beaton.) Mr. BAILING s.Yhe bed se objeeties to we the ditty es Belt and Meg India Sept elm AAA It would mot however be ad• viable la the .es.m sate et the remote to de any dintleunien it. For this reason be oust at present oppose the propeeltioo. Mr. F. BUXTON said he was coovamett that the Move Trade ' was prevalent in the Mauritius daring the Gieenunestel the Hos.' Bonnet (Sir R. Farquhar,. aid it was only Mame that petm ire . him from pro.eming the inquiry. The seldom did oat kiw i down. sad be offered to put in the hands of Government dooms% which mold have shown beyond a doubt that the Siam Trade stns carried on as be had before stated. Sir R. FA IiQU HAR said he did not men so dewy that the trade was carded on for a t ime, bet it cea.ed altogether la March mi. He challenged ineplry into ilk we Of toe Mr. HUSKISSON said the Goverment dM not think it it" to prosecute an inquiry which had bees COnsoteaced before a O m , mitts", sod it was for that reason the documents Waded to by* lion. Gentleman (Mr. deetoo) were net made ose of . Mr. C. GLOM and the Csearemsea of the Racsiagm . 5 . plained. The Home then divided— Ayes .. .. 000 ••• Ome le Noes .. ... « ... «. es Majority against the Resolution of Mr Grant ... 3 , The original Resolution was agreed to, and the Maim wises,. dered to be received to morrow. POLICE 141.5. Mr. Secretary PEEL moved the Order of the Sy ; ist aor third reading of the bierropolis Police The question being put that the Bill be read a tiled time, Mr. C. PELH A hi opposed the MIL The Mill having hem read a third bate. Mr. Secretary PEEL reposed a mew clause relative t• sir miutontea of parishes. Mr. DELO IIT said he still continued of ebe same opinion wile respect to the Bal. Mr. Secretary PEEL said that, since the period the ilonseralir Niember bad eitade Ms objections to the Rill, be bad received ate less than three applications horn ddferent parishes to he ludem • hi it.—The Dili was then passed. TIM [Wel essaca. Lord LOWTHER moved the Order of the Day far the n ow going into a Committee on the Land Revenue Usti. Colonel DAVIS sail this Bill, in point of fact, affected the interests of the public. - He objected to the power given by the Bill for applying the mola r .1 t . the repair of Buckingham Palace; and also to the clause which enabled the COMM • sinners of Woods a n t. Ferests to dispose of the Croon lands, by We.' He' meant to propose that all sale. of this kind should heir • public auction. Tile otigsssal estimation for Buck. Ingham Palace Was 250.1)001. It was then said the no intention existed of expending large sums, bat the e,tinia•e already amounted to CV 0001 The es. penseot sculpture and the 11341b1e etch was not included in t h at est i mate . Th e expense of sculpture fo tt e inch• atone was 56,4501. Mr Nash alwat s eluded the questi , .a as to the expense of sculpture. The total expense cf the arch would be 50,0061. He d. übted whether it weld* be a suitable °satanical after all, when contrasted with. the dingy hue which the Palace mud, like other logs, ultimately assunte. Mr. Nash said, t•-at by per. chasing the amble himself these was a saving effected' of 9,0001. One of the bosses to which he said he sub. milted the marble for inspection was that of Grady, wit . dewed .that the marble was ever submitted's, his inspection, or that he was cc &wilted. He did not know upon what ground an architect charged commit. sion. That allotted to Mr Nash was 51. pea cent. The total of commission received b)theArchitect w 4624.60% in six years, making upwards of 4,0001. a year. The whole expense was 496 0001. but he was sure it *as nothing like the sum which would be rh quilted. Mt. Nash intended to have two fountains. and other woks would be considered necessary. He (Col. Davis) bedroll knowledge of Mr. Nash, and he was sorry to consider it 'his duty to make charges against that individual of a serious character. A sense of public duty alone induced him to make these charges. He had to charge him with fraud in the valuation of Crown leases. It would appear that a Mr. Edwards, who was known to Mr. Nash, applied for the lease of ground near Selfolt street. The ground was valued by Mr. Nash sod sold to Edwards. The Commissioness of Woods and Forests were then told that Edwards bad not capital enough to realize his bargain, and Mr. Naps, tit he would have the ground himself. Edvratds was apparently a man of straw; and Mr. Nash having taken the leases, carried them into the market, where he sold them for a profit of four or five bundled per cent. In February, 1816, several plots of posed were conveyed to Mr. Nash on the nomination st the Regent's Canal Company. That Company had received the land on the valuation of Mr. Nash. and it was but gratitude in them to make him a retain. The Hon. Member found that five and a half acres of land wets sold to the Regent's Cad Company at 5601. per acre. He also found the the land • f the Duke of Bedford, and othets in the vicinity of the metropolis, so.d foe 4.5001. per acre, eel why land in the Regent's Park sold lot 5601. an acre ht did not know. The Hon. Member did not wish to take up the time of the House by making other charges of e l similar character. His hope was that Mr. Nash would be able to exculpate himself; but if they were nue, the vengeance of the law ought to fall on the pet son who had abused the confidence of the Soveseign and Paella. matt. He objected to the disposal of the property of the Crown in the way he had stated. it appeared to he a gross job. He knew he was correct in his stemma, having received his information from an individual whose accuracy and veracity he could not doubt. k was his intention to move for a Select Committee to is. quite into the works of Buckingham palace, and the terms on which Clown Leases had been grassed We-twiti.ter. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not rise to follow the Hon. Member through his objet lions to the Bill, because it would be discoved in de Committee. He had objected on a dormer occasion ta an indefinite appopttation of the public mot ey to Buckingham Huu.e. The Right Honvis able Gado man bad already stated the ptopriety of placing a lies( to the expenditure epos that building. The estissis was on the table, arid he psoposid that eirentel • knelt a clause to limit the appropriation 1,1 pet& funds. The House would therefore- see 'that da Government had no desire to increase unneceisseif the expense, or act unfairly by Parliament. There too one put of the Hon. Gentleman's speech on which W was dragons of making a few observations. The Res Gentleman had brought charges against the ambito' in his transactions wbtistemp4 yed under the departing of the Woods and Forests. It was impossible be nil answer some charges brought against M r.Nash, bents they related to transactions which must have °mewl before I e was in office. The Hon.Gent.hed 'boded.' one transaction, which it was but justice to Mr. Nash a answer. It was stated to him some time since that load thecorner of Suffolk•street had been sold to Mr. liwk and that it bad been sold again with great advsetsr The Right Honourable Gentleman thought it tight W make inquiry. it appeared that Mr. Edwards bad 4' plied to take part of the land, and as it was knows (fit Edwards was in connection with Nash, the CoowiP stoners of Woods and Forestscontideted it impttlre_, take Nash's valuation. They consequently emflolg• Mr. Shaw to value the land, and *obis valuation it ow let to Edwards. The House would see, therefore• di g the charge made by the Hon. Member was net offei ll could be sustained. Colonel DAVIS explained. His informant 8 8104 _, him that Mr. Shaw never saw the land , but Taw upss Nosh's representation. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said when it was Inures 6. 11 Mr. Edwards was the friend of Mr. Nash. the Co 0 0: Awn of Woods and Forests sent for Mr: SW" Itniessore the land. H. considered the information rf . tli Ihe Hon. Walks false. Mr. Nash, in his WOO PeTran all pen when s of Earn had a I When ReBEl behfe vslitat Comps sold st ttansa4 liedier of diet from s nut Im lend Sir .a to deft final Forest clear lave I Mr. titi Oil doubt comp) repair time Mr desire duct. enter lima admit had I pi Op could than •Trould doubt Mernl been i W Mr :aft .49crea 'icnunt sovet iotte.n anew beige son. posed uoul blasts the P • City of London wol 0 Fund no less than 1, to give a sttict actor • ceived the additional