Star. — London, England, 1812-09-03 00:00:00

rib 71) '• - ton—during the winter months you will be defended by the elements. Postpone the war till November, ani we shall not have to dread an enemy on our co ist till April. In the mean time go on , with your recruiting, fill up, discipline, and trait) your army. Take the stations if you please which will enable you tb open an early campaign. Your trade will all have t me to return, before hostilities commence, and ha. v.ng all your ships and seamen at home, -you may be prepared to put forth all your strength upon the ocean on the opening of the ensuing spring. Shall we by au untimely precipitancy, yielding to a fret ful impatieve of dam throw our wealth into the tame the lain of the Empire. The same power in the solemn form of a law could alone revoke them. We possess the decrees in all the forms of law, but have we ever teen, has the Government anq reason to believe that any decree in the form of a law has been passed to repeal them ? The promise of a Sove reign to repeal a law does not annul it, nor would a reference of his Minister to its being repealed have that effect. Every sovereign power prescribes to it self a form in which its sovereign will shall be known,. when it is to constitute a law of the land. The de aces teach us what this form is in France, and we have no ground to believe that the decrees are re pealed, till we see an act of the sovereign in the same bands of the enemy, - and feed that very rapacity which it is our object to subdue or to punish? We tan lose nothing by delay, much will be certainly saved ; and at a moment pregnant with great events,_ was most evidently our true pulley to temporize. You give up no right, yield no pretension, and pro fit by every day in rendering the edition of the .country more secure, and its attiiode more formida ble. The just aipreciation of time is among the 'highest points of political sagacity. To' know' what :step the times will warrant, and to take the step at the proper time, is generally a matter of mom im pottont and difficult consideration than , the nature Of . 8 proposed measure. Without enquiring whether (war was the right course for the nation to. take ukchtei *listing circumstances, he did most confidently ureic , that this was not the time when war , ought to be Commenced. Mr. B. said it belonged to the motion, b. had 'submitted to bring under review the alledged Causes of war, and to enquire into the probability of our attaining the objects for which we were to em• bark in the war. Ii we are to come out of the war' we enter it, after having wasted the blood and , treasure of the nation, and loaded the country with debt and taxes, it would certainly be more rational to submit at once to the wrongs we endure. If we expect to extort any concession from Britain, we must be prepared for a long, obstinate, and bloody conflict. aritain at this moment certainly does nut coma the :quarrel—she had . reduced the catalogue of our corn ;plaints—and though not disposed to surrender her pretensions, she has evidently made advances towards Conciliation. The recent Orders in Council were de. 'signed to be so considered, and she has removed a lariat source of umbrage in withdrawing her armed ships from our coast. She had offered satisfaction, for the affair of the Chesapeake, which our Govern ment had accepted, which must therefore be taken, to be honourable and sufficient, and the offence which bad been given completely expiated. We are no longer at variance in relation to the colonial trade. France no longer has colonies, and we have no occa ,tion to contend - at present for an empty right which ,Could not be exercised if yielded. The question, therefore, as to the right of a neutral to be the carrier 01 the produce of the colony of a belligerent, having been reclu i ced by th i s course of the war to. a mere question of theory, it no longer entered into the dis rutes of the two Governments. The question as to the impressment of our seamen did not present instspera rbk difficulties. Britain never contt.nded for a right ' 1 -to impress American seamen. The right she claims bto take her own subjects found in our merchant service. She exercises the right in relation to her own private vessels. This tight she never will, • nor can give up. If our merchant flag were a secure protec tion to British seamen who sailed under it, the kri tish navy must be unmanned by desertion ; while our Merchants can and do pay a dollar for every shilling a sailor' can earn in the naval service of his country. ," Can it be expected that a nation which depends for its exigence upon its naval strength, would yield a principle threatening the destruction of it. 4 mari- No war, of any duration, or however time power lo , disastrous, will ever extort this concession—she may as well fall with arms in. her hands, as to seal quietly the bond of her ruin. He did not know that our Government had ever required the unqnaliSed aban donment of the right to impress. Our complaints Here chiefly of the abuses coibmitied in the exercises of she right. It Was a practice frequently attended with violence, insult, and gross injustice. Americans • - were often from design or tfirStike seized as British vat seeessary to execute the restrictive sotem ; and if rostriction be the chief effect of war, had we not better bear with the evils of this system than involve ourselves at the same time in the calamities of war t Mr. Bayard said that this motion w.avecotnmended by the strong consideration, that by'postponing the declaration of war we could lose nothing, and cer taily would gain a great deal. Hmtilities would be' suspended during the present year. In the mean time, you will be employed in raising and disciplin ing your army, and in providing the munitions of war—your vessels, property, and seamen may be brought home, and you, have the chance Of props. tious events which may interpose. England at this ted T erten of tgretil ennottlerttal Met $* to dectr, and the ask i l yoke of all the wise and honest men of this wino have n o n" able to shake nor scarcely to modify, I can only wish, s a d thi with little hope, that you may not be diuppointtd." This letter was written after the letter to M I , 'Granger, which gave the assurances of a co eial treaty, and only three days before the Posta l * indorsed on the letter which alleged the detenhoe of the Hornet to be in order to send the treaty to thi, country. It did not belong to him to account fa the contradiction between the letters: Poets mi g h t b o entitled to indulgences when even writing which were denied to the rest of the world, Sot promo it was his purpose in reading the extract of Mr. gar. ty x. . . form in which they, are found. Such is the course ' moment is in a convulsed and distract . state. Tu- low's letter, not only to avail himself of the ne e among ourselves. A law is repealed by a law pasied mults little short of insurrection have happened in tit y of the Minister, bur of what he valued mor e , of in the same form. It is the practice of every nation different parts of the kingdom. The present Mines- the weight of the reasons assigned in the letttt,/,, in Europe, and of every civilized nation on the earth: try hold their places by a very precarious tenure.— not expecting a commercial arrangementwith Fry e , But even the promise to repeal was only conditional, The real disposition and intentions of the Prince Re- fie would repeat in the language of the letter, ifk and it has never been announced to us that the Em- nt are not distinctly and certainfteknewnee The cries of twenty commercial cities going . to d ecay , ee peror considered the condition complied with on our t ..pr ge ince may be forced to yield to the popular senti- the united voice of all the wise and honest nee id part by prohibiting the importation of British produce 'Dent. We had lately seen' the Corporation oel.on- . ' nation had "not been able to shake or scar ce l y bee and manufactures. In f a ce d a ily accounts are re- don come forward with an address against the Orders dify the antecommercial system of Napolee e s e e eeived of seizures made on the principles of those de- in Council. This body had always had great weight • was to be expected from the negotiation of ale i n 7 trees : and to affirm that the decrees are repealed, in the kingdom, especially in giving at impulse and rican Minister ? For his part, he expected notei ng e ut was only to add perfidy to the atrocity of the conduct direction to popular opinion. Let us wait the ope- false promises and delusive hopes. of the French, who d o no t he s itate to pl un d er , burn, ration of these domestic causes. A little patience,_ 4 , Can you expect that Napoleon will r e l ax hi s anti . and destroy our property on the high seas, even after an d tr i um ph may be s e cn r ed t o es by t he p eo pl e of commercial system in favour of your commerce abandoning the pretence with which at first they were England themselves, without •bloedshed. The Mi- when you see him bringing into the field fiv e e an e rec i respectful enough to attempeto cover their violence. • n i ster h a d al r e a dy rece d e d one ste p ; h e had suffered thousand men, and ready to hazard the imperia l Nothing could he more evident than the policy of the the O r ders to go to a Commi•tee. It would be die : crown, in order to compel Russia to ad o p t an d en. French Emperor, nor any thing more mortifying &salt, against the strong current of sentiment which I f or ce th e same system ? To indulge the expectat i on than the success which has attended his juggling. ' prevailed, for him to recover his former ground.— i t was to make ourselves the sport of the most visi onary He has contrived to satisfy our Government that he l e t the same time, if we cast our eyes on the Conti- i hope. The Wasp would bring us duplicate s of the has repealed his decrees, while, to the eyes of the rest neneof Europe, we see every thing in commotion.', dispatches which had been received by the Hornet, of the world they appear to be in force. By these Armies of unparalleled numbers taking the field. A and protracted hope would at last sink in d e se a i ree means he has opened our ports to the public and pri- crisis of vast magnitude existed, which might termi- ' He thought, however, that those Gentlemen who vete ships of France, and shut them against those of nate in the subjection of all Europe to the power of still keep expectation alive, that France would d ons Great Britain. He denies the evidence of the repeal Bonaparte. If, however, the Emperor of Russia justice and grant us commercial favours, und er the of his decrees, which be well knows if furnished to should avoid the shock, and tamely yield to the con- : weight of doubt, which must depress thei r h ope; us, would immediately remove the Orders in Coun- ti n ental s y s tem of his adversary, the e ff ect of this oc- `, ought to wait for the ultimate intelligence, whichan cif, and facilitate the settlement of our differences with elusion of the ports of all Europe to the British trade to determine our relations with France, and skew us England. Britain has declared, that the moment could not fail to-be sensibly felt by that power, and more clearly the course which our interest or ou r evidence is prodnced of the repeal of the decrees, the to create new inducements upon her part to culti- e honour required that we should take in relation to Orders in Council shall ipto facto be annulled. The vete friendship and peace with the United States.— ' Great Britaip. • Emperor instead of furnishing this evidence, is giving At the same time, gentlemen would call toenind the " Sir, said Mr. Bayard, before I sit down, I will daily proofs, to our sorrow and loss, that the decrees unsettled state of affairs between this country and call the attention of the Senate to another ground for are in force and operation. lam among the last France. The principle of impartial and equal conduct :postponement which can never safely be overlooked men in the Senate, said Mr. Bayard. who evouldjus-; as to the belligerents was avowed by all, and he had as • nor neglected in a Government like that of the tify or defend the 'Orders in Council. They violate yet met with no one who hesitated to declare, that if I United States: This war is not to be supported by the plainest rights of the nation. The ground of re- 1 F ran ce r e f u s e d re d ress f or t h e wrongs she had done the men only who declare it; its weight will fall taliation was never more than a pretext, and their us, that the same course ought to be taken in relation I %Ton the great body of the people, and they are plain object is to deprive France of neutral trade. It ,to her as to England. It was a ll e d ge d t h at negoc l - .to sustain its pressure. - Can you maintain the set% never was contended, nor does Britain now' contend, ation was still pending between the United States without the general support of the people?—The that she would be justified by the laws nr. usages of and.. France, and at present we were bound to abstain public sentiment is not at present known on the sub, nations to interdict our commerce with her enemy. from acts iii hostility as to her. This doubtful state ject. The people have never yet believed as serious She covers her injustice with the cloak of retaliation', .of affairs, as to that power, was a s tro n g reason f or i n our i ntent i on of maki ng wa r a g a ins t G rea t B r i ta i n . and insists that she has a right to 'runt upon her ene- delay. A few months will necessarily realize-or dis.. L et us wait till we can have a full and deduct ex. my the evils of her own p o l ic y. Thi s i s a doctrine to appoint the expectations which are entertained. it pression of their opinion. ! Are you afraid that opi. which lam not disposed to agree. It is destruction could not be the intention of Gentlemen to p ro pi t i- n i on i s against the war ? and if so, are you hardy to neutrals.—lt makes them the prey of the belli- ate the Emperor, and to secure a treaty by means of ennogk to make war ?Do you forget your origin, gerents. It is a doctrine which we must resist, but a war with England. This would be purchasing his • that you are creatures of the people's favour ? That it the time end manner of resistance ought to be deter- friendship at the expence of our honour, as well as is their power which you are exercising, and that you mined by a view only to our own interests. Because of our blood and treasure. Before we break with have no strength of your own ? lie must. be little in we are injured weecertainly are not bound to make England, we ought to know upon what terms we strutted in the nature or history of our Goetamene, war, before it is for our own benefit. ! stand - wee France. If France will concede nothing, who supposes that a war can be long sultportad e There is one effect of this war which Gentlemen in order to induce us to enter into the war, what are againjt the will of the people. The constialere ought to take into view, and which w him was a we to expect when she is no longer asking our aid, makes the general will, the basis of the Govemment. source of grief and humiliation. In making war up- but we are standing in need of her assistance to carry. That will upon all occasions must be consulted, one on England, we bring the force of the nation in aid on the contest. In vain then will you ask for redress must he obeyed. You may commence the war against of France. We are about to assist a Government and itelemnity for seizures and spoliations. Let us the will of the people, bat how long can you exercise from wham we have suffered for years past the most wait and see what she will do betore we throw out- the powers of Government against their will? He humiliating insults and ti ~ must atrocious wrongs. selves into her scales—afterwards it will be too late. knew well that sonic Gentlemen calculated much We are about make a_common cause w i t h a man —The Wasp will return before November, and from the war spirit—that spirit, was at most but the who hates us for our language, and despises us for what is now doubtful with some, will then he certa i n ebullition of the passions e shorelived in its nature 4 our government, and who would to-morrow, if he with all. Some Gentlemen were looking for the re- are all the passions. had the means, without seeking a pretence, add us turn of this vessel each succeeding day. litit for his e Taxes and privations will soon extinguish it, and ~ o the list of his conquered provinces. This connec- part he was too well instructed in arrant by w ill have to settle your account wi th a nation itt ( the . _ - -- - tion should not be hastily formed. To other nations it has been the forefunner of their subjugation and ruin. Let us take time to consider the consequences of a step upon which the destiny of the nation de pends. We may profit by delay, but can attain no thing by precipitancy. The war will not hastily re move the Orders in Council. It is the principle of the Orders, rather than their effect, of which we complain. igements, by the history of the Hornet, to expect to see the Wasp for some months after the time announced for her arrival. in February, the Government gave out that the Hornet was 'lady expected, and with a passage of twenty days she did not arrive for three months after. She was detained by the very cause which will detain the Wasp, waiting for a treaty. If she waits for a treaty, which is to indemnify us for the losse; it In B' 1 6 a a The trade to France, which they inter- sustained tinder the plundering decree of Rambnoinst f you .. their sober senses. If unfortunately, the spirit of, war should inflame the party paasions to madness, and the people should be swilling to sacrifice their country to support a party, then indeed might Mini? sters calculate upon holding their power, But can we foresee the consequences of thus inflaming theta:. rious passions of a whole people Have you a , saving power in the constitution, which shall bring us out o - f the mad struggle, an entire ration / Oir sin ihjects, and we have abundant evidenc e . orthe fact , I t diet, is of little consequence to the country. - Its an- w hi c h some Gentlemen flatter themselves with, - the Constitution was designed for peace and protectionr tha many of our native seamen have been forced nual amount is .less than three millions of dollars, ex p ectat i on o f b e i ng grimaced by Imperial justice, it i s b ut not for offensive war. Its great aim w as top er. into Initial service. Pie had always understood , t I ; and you find it onerated with duties so excessive, and muc h to b e d rea d e d s h e w ill never rev i s i t t h e A mer i. serve among ourse l ves t h e principles of civil and pot restricted to such . articles of exchange , that, even if can shores. Do your expect that Bonaparte will re. lineal liberty. So catitiously in many cases, have however, that etichr acts were not justified by the Bri- 1 I enjoyed in safety, it would be productive of little pro-° toll Government. The Government have neverstore the booty which he has seized ?As well might the abpses,of eublic authority been guarded against, claimed the right of holding fit to individuals or to the nation. If, however, you exercise you expect that the grave would surrender its prey. that the salutary of power has been denied. ..war at this time , . an American seaman I declare Against his will. The pretensions of the two Govern- i Tinton end her dependencies, equal to thirty-five be the basis of amicable relations with France, sure may not be deficient in energy ; but divided among menus opon this subject, admitted a adjustment. . ofi millions a- ear without gaining the paltry . trade with he wasp that we need notwait for the intelligence the ourselves, it is without force, It p ossesses no Heine The chief embarrassment arose from the dif fi culty . France. The laws of w ar w oe o p erate s el l more ex- Wasp might bring. Or it you expect a commercial principle, if the North becomes a rrayed against the distinguishing the sailors of the two countries. 1 But be had no doubt that this, and all other di ffi culties on 1 than the Orders in Council ; and though no I tensive y . doubt we shall gratify the Emperor of France, we treaty, which is to give activity to your commerce, South. A.nd if the course of things shotild lead to by opening the ports of France to tour trade, it is a this conflict, we should have left only the recollectioq ii the subject, might be vanquished without having re.. t shall enjoy little commerce with his dominions. As delusion, which time will dissipate and under ' which ' of haying Freed under a common Government. What 1 course to war. - it regards therefere our interest, i tracting the present state of affair% . m is S fo o dn e Ge dinn7lt .we ought not to act. He knew the sourc e o f t hi s d e - i s t h ere to i n su r e us aga i n st this dreadful event? It the The dispute, as to paper blockade, was , for the lusion—it grew out of the letter of Mr. Barlow, our Northern States conceive their interests to besacrificed present, merged in the Orders in Coven.. Those Imen considered that the honour of the nation celled • Minister in France, to Mr. Granger, the Postmaster- and findtheirsufferingsdisregarded, willthey longyield Orders wee now to be considered as cdtnprehending ' for i mmed i ate hostilities. It i s adm i tted that a coun- 1 general. That letter, he understood, was dated about to'an authority which has not power to controul there? ' the whole cause of war. TheisThsebject deserved to i try is bound to defend its honour, nor can its interest the 16th of February, with an indorsement of the 3d The authority of the. Government once succession,' viewed in every liseht. riers ie Onatacil we re; be welt separated from its honour. Buewliat honour of .arch . Mr. Barlow expresses the expectation of resisted, it is afteratneds despised, and there is an end not at Wei - inter in truth, supported open their eel- 1 can you acquire by going to war in your present forming a commercial treaty with the French Govern- of the constitution and of the union. W ith an y n . a• gical ground. The Ex-Minister, Mr. Canning, had . unprepared and feeble state ? I n res p ect to nations, I anent, and the Hornet was detained for the purpose of time at any time, war is a hazardous experiment rree , cehlicly and candidly confessed the fact. They were their glory and their success are nearly allied. A i can it, He believed the country was most grossly our Government. In peace we have esper.ieeced its_ .adopted as measures of retaliation, thoughtthey never } vanquished nation gains no honour, however just its I deceived and imposed upon by this letter of Mr. Bar- blessings. We have seen ourselves, under it, ante o f deserved that character. Be had always considered .. cause may be. You have certainly no force prepa- low, That geutlemannever entertained the opinion the most happy and flourishing people on the earth. . the Berlin And Milan decrees used as a mere pretext. , red to enter Canada. Your army is still to be for- Which the fetter expressed. He knew and was entirely Greatly is it to be dreaded that the frail barque will Those decrees were vain and empty denunciations in med. It is to be found on pape r , b o t not in the geld. ! satisfied at the time when he wrote the letter, that a endure the storm of intestice division and of foreign . selatien to England. The plain design of the British Witlernilitia no invasion of a foreign territory can be : treaty which was to open the ports of France to the war. Upon a question of dottly.fel expedience, Toe G wernment was to deprive France of the benefits of contemplated. They are not bound to pass your trade of this Country was impracticable.—M r . Bayard are about rashly to hoard the existence of the sprier , external eOnareerce o pnless the profits of it were di- f ront i ers , an d d es i rous t h e y cannot b e to s h e d their ' said he spoke not on the ground of pr esum p t i on , nor Can the Senate be eiempt at this moment f cen al 'aided with herself.. This was fully proved by the blood, in or der to add by conquest to the unwieldy :of any slight evidence. He had seen a l etter o f M r . ' most awful imresesions ? How great is our til l. lievice trade. Britain carries on the very trade she territories of the United States. Is it on the ocean Barlow to Mr. Latrobe, of w hi c h he h e ld an extract an d oar responspibility! The destiny of millions ay, 'denies to newels, and having engrossed the whole t ha t we are t o l o ok for laurels, with twenty ships o p- •in his hand, which was d a ted o n t h e 29 t h o f F e b ruary, pen d s ur : D our decision. Shall me make it hastilY r to herself, she excludes neutrals from participation. posed to a t h ousan d? Th e most d esperate courage which in very eloquent terms, and on th e strongest Ipr ay to relieve us from the infatuation of sn o b No man was more disposed than himself to reproba . e cannot command success against such fearful odds, grounds expressed an opinio n , t h at no comm ercial blind precipitancy ; and I call upon you, while Yet the wrong and injustice of the British Government The lees of our navy and our commerce must be the ar r angement would be entered into by the French you are standing on the brink of the precipice , to mpon this subject. They resort to the French de‘rees conseque nces of the war upon the ocean ; and is this G overnment . H e wou ld read the extract to the I pause solemnly, and to contemplate the conseeneo ers to justify themselves, acid though he considered them the honour Gentlemen are so impatient to enjoy ? Senate. [Mr. Bayard bere rea4 the following ex-1 before you take the final fatal step, which may prior ts no justification, yet our Government iq their con- There was reason to believe that Britain would feel tract of a letter from Mr. Barlow to bite 4atrohe, : the nation into an abyss of inevitable ruin." duct had admitted that the decrees placed us upon- the war only through its restrictive effects. At this dated the 29th of February, 1812] : I the same footing as to France as the Orders did as moment espec i a ll y , s h e stood in need of our produce . Thp.Edinburgh Reviewers sneeringly say, a Th at to England, and required equal measures to both na. as we d as our market, The embargo and non-im- - " The expeetatioas of yourself and my tithes friends on eiv , • many persons have a money-getting Talent, bat II? Lions. Our Government have beea pleased to say (fair here are too high ,t use , portation, which denied . her both, were undottleedly • • 4 t a rod eh ' to be realised. kis sere dilleplt other Talent," Now these Gentlemen should come what be did not think at this time any man in the • felt. The obiection to them w h at their reactrug upon to P • ,allqa change in a " an tcwithipad w i th a° many drew°. der, that moss other Talents are centred in this one t nation believed besides themselves. They have been ourselves,' he great question was, whether we'did * t aw ' s "' aealleat sad other Str°os P aSSiada arrayed aromas as f or M oo - is p ro p ert y _property is rower-emit ey pleased to ,say the decrees are repealed. This is a y, vs la the antiebutmerclal systeit of Napoleon. Are- in not inflict upon ourselves a deeper wound than upon 411.93 Poway createaßespect ; 411 of which can be abut/sea fact, and asserted without any pteof. Ihq decrees 04u, adversary I , 11 such the case, it was a 'twits and thiqueno hive bat little power hi the clew The old hy any who has the Iniz i t Ta m , to t h ose a fortue could only be repealed by the same pourer o liati k . 1" Elltt ! WWlge mode °etaliatin g: We g ilt if this be the ed g e entree:est swear, whom Witte represent with banded oyes and *ate Ticket, that . _intin 410,000, 1e40.000t or same manner in which they were enact ed . ;7 pr o - orthe war whit ' it to teetmd the eiterny, had we a pair of asks , has dill less to sia. And if you apace e me with a11'59 000, en Tuesdey Morning Nest s as all the Lot ceeded frame** sovereign power et . .fartge NM Re' no, b etter ;4 , 1 4 1 94 preseilt coil di t i on ? T he war i s the help at these Table • of overturning a decision which kite • . 1 . A . . tery wiU be drawa on thafdiy.