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from pape4•, which were already before the Cots millet t nr whether it would not be brute to prevent the H••ufe from havng garbled extrads from them enforced up to their attention, and to fare time, that the Wharfs &mild fay at once, that the anfwer was to he found in the Papers ? Mr. FRANCIS laid, he thought alto that the erasing of Papers'vras anomalous, and that it was nor the prettiest, in fuch cafes as this. for the Wit. netTer to refer to papers, for any purpofe, beyond that of reftefhing their memories. Mr. ROSE confidered it improper that the Noble Lord &mild be interrogated as to his opinion upon any point, and thought that the teilimony ought to be confined to matter of fall. Mr. PAUL Paid, the praflice of reading from papers had been invariably purfued during the im peachment of Mr. Haßings, and the Noble Lord was merely referring to memorandums which he held in hi► hand for his individual ufe. Mr. GARROW could not eneceive what the opi nion of the Noble Witnefs, abed for in the interrn. getory, eouldhave to do with the malverfation charged ogaind the Governor General of India. He hardly knew to what extent that honfe felt Well privileged to make fuel; inquiries in a cafe of the nature of that before them ; but, certainly, in any other place, the rules of evidence would not permit an inquiry as to the opinion of the witnefs. Dr. LAWRENCE faid,ke mull inform the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Garret's), titat the Hnufe had a latitude of inquiry, which was not fettered by judicial formalities ; but this quellion, he thought, was quite beyond objedlinn, as it was not one tending di, ealy to criminate the Defendant. Would not the Hon. Gentleman, in the fituation of an Attorney General, have been able, even in a Court of jullice. to put a queflion that lhould loam legal evidence ? It was an endeavour to difenve►.the•6tuatinn of a party, as in the cafe of a eonfpitacy, is which Lord Hardwicke had laid down the law, that flich an inquiry was admiaible Mr. GARROW Paid, he was not acquainted with any predict's, in fuch cafes, that were not within the rule of evidence ; but coming from the Courts below, and ignorantly, as it teemed, Braying into that Houfe, he was certainly difpofed fubmiffively to teceive the lam of the " Learned Donor," on the ufage of Par- Lament, and then retire ; but he would firfl, in expla nation, fay, that if the Houk really knew no bounds, in queftions of judicature, all the lawyers had been of opinion that it was right to refrain them. In reply to the quellion of the •r Learned Donor," whether, as an Attorney General, he would not, in certain cafes, allow hearfay evidence ? he would tell the .1 Learned Donor" that he certainly would not.— When the matter of inquiry was ultimately to he laid before a Criminal Court, the " Learned Donor" lhould konw that no loch thing was admitted : it mutt be all Reeling, legitimate evidence. He confi• dared that the Houfe mull be fatisficd, as they would &newer upon their honour, that there was fufficient impeachable ground in the fans proved before them, to inflitute a criminal trial ; and that they were not to cacti it from the opinions of witneffes. On the grounds Rated. he thought thee reafuning queftions were not admiflible. Mr. WINDHAM thought that the tone and Ryle of the Hots. and Learned Gentleman was not fn 'na da as it became Gentlemen to addrefa that Houfe in. He could not but thank him for the tenure he had given to the Houfe, and to his Hon. Friend (Dr. Lawrence) in particular; but for hitnfelf, he thought lee lhould not much profit by it. The Learned Gen tleman had Rated, that he had come from the Courts below ; but he (Mr. Windham) thought he had for gotten the, and fancied himfilf in the Courts below Rill. (A Laugh, am/ bear! bear Garrow had foam in an elevated tone of voice, and with fame irony.) The point on which they were at iffue was, whether the rules of evidence in WetlminQer Hall, were the rules which bound a Committee of that Houfe ? He could not, however, conceive any thing more oppofite than the principles of the two Courts. Proceedings of inquiry were fo different front pro. ceedings of judgment, that he would not trouble the Houfe with an ohfervation on them. The technical rules of courts of law were not binding upon that • Houk. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman had done no credit to his . judgment, to (late that his Learned Friend (Dr. Lawrence) had laid, that hole and heart's y evidence was admithble. What had been nelvancedhadnof opoi uch ttlat bearing.iAedtothe As li to te rtit eli t ion which had been ptof a fituaticn which the witnefs bad himfelt filled ; and Purely his opinion was the bell which the Houfe could idiot to for information. The Right Hon. Gentle- man concluded with the obfervation, that the lad Speaker was as new in his piefent fitUatkno as he was bold and confident in that from which be came. Dr. LAWRENCE fat& that the Honourable and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Garrow) would find the decifinn of Lord Ilardwicke, to which he hadalludcd, ex p l or e d on the trial of Lord Lovett, which he re commended him to read before he next came into the Houte. That Learned Judge had laid, that a confl,i racy might be proved by hearfay evidence, althou t th not a criminal charge ellablilked by it. The Houle was not now fitting as a Court of Judicature ; but in calie of an Impeachment, there would be another pence:, after Managers, &c. had been appointed. Mr. GA R ROW expreired his furprize at the foie ' City of the lantuage which had been applied to him by a Right Hon. Secretary (Mr. Windham). He had Paid, that he Mould nor pewit by the !came which he (Mr. °arrow) bad delivered tv—this was the fe• cowl time he had ever addreifed that Houle, and if he was deferaiug of a reboke,the leaure of the Right iloneurable Gentleman would certainly be profi.able to him ; and be could not but thank him fil• the cogriefy sad kindoefs with which it had been given. He erasion fencing with the argument of the Learned Condition (Dr. Lawrence), bat would again de. cidedly *web his convidios, that no hearfay evi dence could be legally received, to advance the con viSion of an man, f .r a contpimy or otherwife. Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) tlo.ught the que!tion was one extremely relevant and proper, as it was as liable In lead to the jollification, as the condemnation, of the Noble Defendant. He thought there was a wide ilicerenee between the eflie the etpreffion of an opinion would have on an illiterate Jury, in a Court of law, and on an alfemblage of the Members ot that Monk. Mr. PAUI. laid, the queflion was necefrary to tubttantiate an iinyortant charge of tyrannous cern daft on the ran of &terrible Wellerey. The pretence .•f the R fidant , at I-fulcrum., was fo nbrioxious as to induce , he Vizier to abdicate his throne. Sir WM. YOUNG thought that care ought to be taken to prevent the privileges and praelices of the Houle heirs* fuhverted by the rules of Courts of law. Sir AR 1 HUR WELLESLEY thought the prac tice of the Courts, for the dircovery of truth, ought to be adhered to. Mr. ROSE laid, the Houk was much indebted to an Honourable and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Gar. row) for the information he had bellowed ; and en. incided in the opinion of the Honourable Baronet (Sir A. WellefLy). Mr. FRANCIS And the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE(VER eonten led for the neceffity of not fubmitting to the guidance of infetior ,Courts, and thought the qneftion not improper. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the Honk was about to divide on the eptellion ; when Mr. WILBERFORCE fuggeled, that it would be better, if p, ffible, to put it in Inch a Iliape to the wit. nets, as would leave the Houk to draw their condo. Sons from the anfwer, and obviate the difference of opinion in the Houk. Mr. PAUL Paid, that the' eptellion was of im. portance, and others of the like nature would often occur. A divifion was again about to take place, but the oppofition was relinquifhed, and the Houfe agreed that the queftion fhould be put. The examination then proceeded. To many of the interrogatories, Lord Telgamouth anfwered by a reference to his Minutes; and in an. fwer to tome quellions relative to the railing of the contribution upon the Nabob, horn (even and a half lacks, to feventy•fix lacks, and whether he did not think that ftvn fufficient to defray the expellees of de fending the territory of Oude 1 he replied, that he thought it fnfficient, bat by no mean, an exceilive contribution. When the examination went on to about half pall ten o'clock, the Chairman (Lord Folkfhuse) informed the Noble Lord, that if he was fatigued, he was at liberty to fit down. He then fisted, that the Company was bound, as well by their own interefi, as by treaty, to defend Oude again!t any enemy.— The Company was alto bound to protea the Nabob again() any rebellion ; but, when the treaty was made, be did not forefee the probability of any tech event. As to the introdua ion of troops into Oude in time of profound peace, and at the expence of the Nabob, the cafe never occurred; and he fhould not have confidered hiinfelf jullified in doing fo. He never knew the Nabob guilty of any aft of cruelty or oppretlion, during the GM( period that he had any peifonal knowledge of him ; and as to his general charafter, he referred to what appeared in his mi nutes. On tome cpiellions being put relative to the conarnaion of treaties— Mr. STURGES BOURNE objefted to them, as being the opinion of the Witners, not of a fa*, but of conflriretions, which the Hoofs was itfelf capable of making. Such an examination he thought so bel a wafie of this time of the Houle. Mr. PAUL thought hirrifelf jultified in queflion ing the Noble Lord as to the couaruaion of his own treaty, which was conformable to precedent. Mr. C. WYNNE thought the Houfe was Well capable to judge of the conaration of I written pa per. Aftcr lime farther obfervarions, the examina tion was tefnmed upon the conftrudion of the treaty of 1795. The demand of territorial earn in peace, would, in the Witnefi's opinion, be a violation of the taraty, except it was by way of fatuity for the pay ment of arrears. _ Mr. WALLACE requetted an adjournment car five minutes. in order to precut an Ekelion Petition win* the return for Wexford, which, by the orders of the Houfc, could not be received after twelve o'clock. Mr. FOX fuggefted whether. as it was already eleyea o'clock, and no chance of concluding the tessellation to-night, It would out be better for the Committee to adjourn till to-morrow Mr. WALLACE (aid. he mould not detain them five minutes; ', after which, the Committee was adjourned for five minutes, and leave given to the Chairman to fit again immediately. Mr. WALI.ACE then prelrmed a petition from Mr. George Davis. complaining of the elettion of Cater Cuklough. Erg. as Knight of the Shire for the County of Wexford, on the ground that he had not been refident in Ireland for many years. The Petition was ordered to be taken into einfsderatioo on Thurfday the 3d of July neat. Ihr Committee was then refumed, and the examination pr*. (COCCI. Sir ARTHUR WELLESLEY crofs examined the Noble %Vit ae., and feveral Tuitions were alto put to him by Mr. MAR TIN, Mr. WALLACE, and fome other Members. Dr LAWRENCE aced whether the Nabob was (shied to ha bitual twos's:M.lm, contrary to the predict of a good Maffithnanf Mr. WALLACE objected to the quefUou, as papers to that felted were denied upon his motion on a former day. Dr. LAWRENCE thought it a proper Tuition. as others had already been liked Weeding the Nabob's charader. Sir A. WELLESI.EY alio objeCted to it, as this examination would be primed, and give the fulojetts of that Prince bad im preffions ut his character. Mr. JOHNS 1 ONE olaferved, that the natives of that tour try did not take their imprelEons of charadter from any proceedings in this country. Mr. WELLESLEY POI.E objected to the quellion, but not on account of the effects it would have on the cafe of the Noble Marquis. Aster font Nattier obfervations from Dr. Lawrence, Sir A. Weliefley, Mr. Wallace. and Lord Archibald H.unikon ' Sir J. WROTTESLEY propofed to adjourn; but agreed to defer it, merely for lc minutes, when he Ilsould move it again. Sir JON WROTTESLEY renewed his motion for an ad journment. Mr. ROSE requeßed that he would withdraw It, and Rated his objeCtions to the queltion. Sir JOHN acceded to the requeft. The queftion was then put. whither the Noble Witnefe (tumid anfwer ifee el o c gi d o—u If the Nabob was hi habits of intoxic.dion, contrary to the produce of a trim Mulfulman r On the queftion being put, sod corned In the Mr:native, the anfwer was, that he was in the habits of intoxication front fpin• tuous liquors, but bad inch diferetion, that he (edam expelled binefelf. He further dated, that the Mattometans valued tb.m. (elves mote on their ullgioo than their morals. He dal oot know of inch a maxim as let the children of Mote who ear turbans be true to the wearers of turbans." but recolktted hating him (elf once eatanged hi, hat fee a turban with one of the natives. After fame further examination, the Noble Lord was fettered to withdraw. Lord FOLKSTONE then moved," that the (miller confidera tiers of the matter be proceeded on in a Committee thia day. - Earl TEmpui, walled to be inhumed hew twig the Honour able Gentleman (Mr. Paul) thought it might he. Wore he would cowhide thcciaininatiou of the other Mused,' ? Mr. PAM. anfwered, that he bad eight more witnetfes to ex amine ispou the prefent charge. and booed to get through them in two &ye. With reined to the St rruhatiad charge, it was impos tilde fur him to proceed in it foe at katt three weeks or a month Hetheretore alive " that the Order of the Day, tor taking the Paid ch.trge tnt.,c.4•fickratt at on I Smuttily skit, be pottputicil to a future Jay." which was aecordingly weed to. Mr. tOX "hies 'ed. that there was .4her huaoefs of very great inip..rtance yet to be deitiofed of, but it there was the kilt pro (pc...! of getting through the evidence on this hapset to or few or neat dig, k r had no objection. in the atiesice ut his Right lion. Friend (Mr:Wiodhans.) to poittoce the reefed reading of the dill, whi:h stood :Or this day. soul neat week, bat then he hoped the !fotee would (uffer it to proceed to a Gavin. tee without any further delay. After funk 4cfultory converfation on the (Waled of meeting at an early hour, for the purpofe of examining the Wstnelles alludes! to, it was Teed, that the Speaker %mild take the Cita r a. knit after three o clock to morrow, as pofhble, in order to difpofc of as touch of the private and routine bufinefs before Itirc o'clock. as court be got through; and that at that boor. the Hoek OP.uld refume the &ether examination of Mulches, in preference ta cvay other public bulinefs. On motion of Mr. WfILLESLEY VOLE, the minutes of the evidence were ordered to be printed After whkh the other orders of the Jay were difpofed of. Adjourrted at One o'Cloek. LONDON. THURSDAY, JUNE 19. PRICE OF STCICKS THIS DAY AT ONR O'CLOCIC Confute. for op t . Safi—Reduced Si. °ma'am, for moury, ait-ur July paymcnt, E.:augur: Hill. par FR ICE OP STOCKS YESTERDAY. . _ Doak Stock ;14 - -- 3 p. CL Rod. Ana. 60f 3 per Celt. Corr. Ann. (hut 4 per Cent. 7911* Long Ann. 17 7- 1 64 India Sias k, SS opening India Bonds. is. a 111. 41f. Imperial 3 per Ccat. &if Imperial Ann. Each. Billa.par is pron.3l. dif. Osmium. 4il prem. Conf. for ace. 6x} 63 62i His MAJESTY held a Privy Council yefterday, at which an Order is Paid to have been figned for re. leafing all tads carrying the flag of Pappenhargh, which were detained previous to the 14th of May, except fuch as (hall appear to hue cleared out from one enemy's port to another. In the Houfe of Peers, Lord Gatavit.La Taft night Acted the outline of the propofed alterations in the Courts of Law in Scotland.—The leading features of his Lordlhip's refolutions are, that the 15 fupreme Judges of Scotland are in future to compote three Courts of equal Jul ifdidion, each confining of five Judges ; and the Trial by Jury, in civil cafes, is alto to be introduced under certain modifications. The Charge againft Marquis Wrxxesxar, recped ing the Nabob of °MI, was taken into confideration ye(lerdajr, by the Houfe of Commons. Lord To mo unt/1-H, the Raft witnefs called in fupport of the Charge, continued under examination from (even o'clock until half pall twelve. The following information was this day received at Ltoysrs Coffee-hottfe " Letters frc4l Tortola fay, that kill as the packet was failing, a perfon anived there from St.Thornas's, who reported that three French and one Spanifh frigate had arrived at Porto Rice, and that four French line of battle (hips were at St. Domingo." The Hamburgh Mail due on Sunday laa has ar rived. Letters of the 3oth oh. frim Ratifbnn Rate, that the Notification made to the Diet relative to the coadjutorthip of Cardinal Ff SCN I will foon be fol lowed by another not lefs important, concerning the new torm of the German Empire and its future con- Ritntion. Lady Sreacalt Stem( who was arrefled at Venice and was ordered to be c4rried to Valenciennes is re. ported, in fercral of the Foreign Journals, to have effeaed her efcape and to have reached Prague, whence the was advifed to depart fpeedily for Ruffian Poland. Some more merchants have been arretted at Bat, muted of encouraging the tale of Englith commo dities. Of thefe Melts. Y and K have been put into feparate confinement. Four thoufand of the RulEan Guards have been ordered to hold themklves in readinefs to march. Their dellination is not known, but they are to be commanded by the Grand Duke Co AAAAA r tar. The accounts by the mail throw no new light on the reports which have been circulating in London, for thefe three days pan, ref - peeing negotiations for peace. The following are the only other articles worthy of notic.. brought by this conveyance : Vials:la, Mar 3 t.—The harbours of Triers and , 1 Fiume will 11111 continue (hot to the Englifh and Rd . - ' flans, sill the evacuation of Cattaro has aaually taken plane. The garrifons of the two ports have been re inforced. The Swedifh Charge d'Affaires, Count Dubea, roMO days ago, delivered to the Mini(ler of State, Count Stadion, the Declaration of the King of Swe den *saint! FrulEa. The report in tome of the public journals, of an alliance between this and Come other Courts, is not fupported by any appearances here, where all the preparations made feem only intended to fecure a durable peace. Equally unfounded is the report that has been circulated, that Tuttle has been taken pof fvfflon of by the French. Ririssow, May 30.—A1l the French troops in the Archbithaptie of Itatifbon brokc up on the 18th of May. HANOVIIt, Just 6.—Baron H•*rdenberg has palled through here on his way by Di norwick to Tempel horck, near New Stettin, in Pomerania. Ham BURGH, JUN, to.—letters from I.anenburgh of the 7'h fay, it teems as if the Pralans would loon leave us Orders are given to bake bread only fir three clA7b in advance, and no nr , re oats to be r ovided. It is pretended here that the l',uffian Court has been in.tuced to agree to quit Laumburg, and allow the Swedes to re-occupy it, gpnn condition of railing the blockade of the Prulli In ports in the Baltic. The fear of dillurbances in Silelia, which priv..te letters ureteral as much to he apprehended, if all the trade is flopped. is atligneci as a nr.tive for this ntedures joined with the p.,w, WI interference of the Court of ROSA. Sr. PATC•IIIVIQN, May 54.—A courier has been difpatclacd wSt agaiisi by way tst . Berlin. His jelly the Empe , •or to Ole 'Vow ".• • Lis ackn,•ssleegmen•s t , :r the otar,..er le which he has proceeded in relation to Sweden. Swtmata traoc, Joist t.—After this port had b-en for tome time blockaded, permitßon WAi 8 . 1 , 101 day for all neutral (hips to SWIMISH POMUANIA, JUMP/ 3.—Count Ferfen is preparing to return to Sweden. The Kine, lsetcl • quarters are expeeted to he removed to S!talfuad.— An eßim ite is now making of the value 1 the houfes in the fithurbs of Stralfand. Battu', Joss Ruffian Courier pared yeßetJay evening to Greifswald ; he had b.rargh alto difpatches for Count Stackelberg, who was pet terday ',relented to the King, at Charlettenbutg. by Count Haugwitz. During all thi, week Count Hang witz has had very long conferences nub his %jelly, fometimee twice a day. In confegnence of the con ference. between Count Stackelberg and Couot Hang wits, the former has fent Baron Holland to the King l of Sweden. A Prutfian Courier has alto arrived from London; an Ault rian Courier from Vienna has gone to London, and a Preilian Courier has arrived from Madrid. The latter Raid tome day. at Paris. ITALY, MAY 19.—The prohibition of Erre& wares through the whole kingdom of Etroria, has occaGuned great alarm at Leghorn, where they fear that the Englifb, in return, will declare that free port in a Rate of blockade. The merchants of that city have in confequence refolved to fend a deputation to Paris, to make tome reprefentations on the fubjea. Rona, MAY 13.-1 his morning Cardinal Faso' left this city. An Englifh fquadron, of four (hips of the line, which lies in the road of Naples, was a witnefs of the rejoicings which took place at Naples on the entry of King Joreph the Englills on the fame day made an attack on the iSland of Capri. GANOA, MAT 21 —Yellerday a (hip of the line, two frigates, and two brig., appeared off our harbour. —They are fowled to be Englifb, and continued their emir& to the Eallward. His !sfal ESTT Came to the , Q , t een's Palace, yeller. day, about twelve o'clock. lie Royal Dukes loon after paid their refpeits to his MAJIS TY. At two o'clock his MAJESTY gave audiences to the Loan C11•11414LLOt, Earl NOMA. and Lord GI /WV ILL,. After which his Mai 13 v held a private Levee. The following had the honour of being prefented to: his MAJISTY : • Lord Elgin, upon his return from France, by Lord Somerville. The Muquis of Douglas, upon his being appointed Ambalfadar to Ruffia, by Mr. Fol. Major•Generai Slomileld, by Earl Moira, upon his promotion to the command of the 9th battalion of the Royal Artillery. General Sir Charles Green, upon his being appointed Governor of S wham, and on his being crested a Baronet ,by Lord Somerville. After the Levee his Majesty held a Privy Coun cil, at which the Marquis of DOUGLAS was intro. duced, and (worn a Member, and took his feat at the Honourable Board accordingly. After the Council his MAJS.TT gave audiences to Earl HARRINGTON and Lord Esotx. By accounts from Parris received through a re fpeEtable channel, we learn, that the Government of France has caufed an idea generally to prevail in that country, that England has refuted to negn. ciate on any terms, nelefs ar order for the imme diate evacuation of Hanover by the Pruillan troops, and a guarantee of the troffer:Son of Malta by the Englilh, and of the S.'vereignty of the Seven Wands by Rau, were made the preliminaries. We do not believe that any correfpondence which has taken place between the two countries had advanced C.) tar as to jullify this flatement on the past of the French Government, which, cot withllanding it is highly pro. bable, may have been fent forth. The Wilherbey, LOVITT ; the Sir Andrew Ham mond, Base; and the Sir Godfrey Webiter, Srsucsit, from Jamaica, bound to London, arrived of the Start on the 17th inilant : they parted from the fleet about a month fince. FALMOUTH, JUNI t6.—Arrived the Maicrisszta packet, Captain Davis. with a mail from the Lee ward Wands, in four weeks pottage ; the failed from Tortola on the ittrh May. The letters will not be forwarded to London till to-morrow. Arrived the William, Dovcr.As, from Portfmouth, bound to Ja maica ; Fanny, Cato' t.z, from Liverpool : Wilfon. DA, isna, from Swanfea ; and Valentine, %Vernet, from Newport.—Wind N. Porivsmoursr, June 18.—Artived feveral fail of outward.bound vette,' from the Downs. His Ma. jetty's flip lets , Admiral Sir E. Cow t. a. is appointed convoy to Newfotandland, &c. arid the Erna bomb is appointed convoy to the I . :ally:it'd. SH 00000 SS. Jose tB.—Sai:ed from the Note this morning the LUCIFER brrnh, with tl.e trade under convoy for the Baltic, with a firie light breeze at Ealt. The Tonningen convey is appointed to fail on the zad inflant. DOTER. JUNE IB.—Sailed this day the following seftels : thip Two Gererals, Capt. Connisnsiast, of and from Norfolk, with flour, bound to Hamburgh ; brig Trurton, Captain Mar, of and from Baltimore. with tobacco, alto for Hamburgh ; and the Swedrllt hay Hoffnung, Capt. Ka uss, from Malaga, bouud to Tonningeu, with wine and fruit. The Trial of Lord Mar.vizzt being concluded, JR Sias A sr E A v r, Bioefeller, at die Bible, Crown, and Conliitution, 3z. Cornhill, has colleaed fuch Mate r ial, a. enables him this day to publifh, at 3.. 6J. a c9trea and impartial Report cf the whole procred : togs. It will contain every argument and every raer necefrary to put the Public into c-mplete potTraion of the whole Cafe, and is at the fame time fold at a price within the reach of every reader. 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