Star. — London, England, 1827-02-17 00:00:00

F t shireg h ritingi i inter ...Or tsbe printed. St COO presented Petitions from the Roman Catlinlis inhabitants of two places In the Queen's County, ih favour of Cs. th,lic Eman iNtion —Ordered to be printed. Mr. CHICHRSTF:It presented Petitions from the Rome Catholic inhabitants of New Row and Simon, in the County of Westmeath, io favour of Catholic Emaacipation.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. A BERCROMBY presented a similar Petition from Ban don —Ordered to be printed. Mr. MAXWELL presented it Petition from seventeen heads of families, praying to be misted with the means of emigration.— It appeared to him from the debate of last night that the House sea. favourably disposed towards some measure of that kind, with out waiting for the resta:t of the inquiries of the Committee. He 1 thought the Committee might be useful in examining into the de tails, and the means of carrying emigration into effect, but he saw no other benefit that could be eapeeted from it. He wished to ask whether it was the intention of the Government to bring for ward a measure epos the subject at an early period. Mr. Secretary PEEL said it was quite evident that no use could accrue from sending these poor people out to Canada before they bad ascertained what was to be done with them there, or how far their situation would be improved by the change. As he said last night, a Gentleman of mulch experience had been sent out Cur the purpose of investigating the land and the means of cultivating it, and he would inform the Government of the result of his enquiries as to whether or not the comfort and happiness of the poor people would be prohibit if dies were sent out. Mr, MAX WELL said he should mit the question again, if the Committee bad not made their report in time for some measure to be adopted before the month of May, the period at which the people would be all thrown out of work. The Petition was referred tp the Emigration Committee. Mr. H. DRUMMOND presented a similar Petition from the Emigration Society of Balfour,in the County of Stirling. Referred to the Committee. Mr. NI Aas HALL - presented a similar Petition from a town in Yorkshire.—Referred to the Committee. . - .... Mr. DU NCOMBE (in the absence of an Honourable 'ad Gal. lent Member, General Phipps) presented a Petition from Ship Owners, complaingof the altetation of the Navigation Laws, and the reciprocity Sywens. Mr. ♦. STEWART gave notice, that on the 28th inst. be would move for a Copy of Corr spondence between the Government and elaginratee of Kilmancroes, Wateeford, relative to the appointment of a stipendiary Magistracy. Mr. FR REM A NTLh: presented the King's Answer to the Ad dress of Condolence respecting the Death of the Du►e of You k. Colonel TOR RENS presented s Petition from Seamen of South Shields for the total repeal of the Coen Laws. Sir THOS. LETHBRIDGE said, if t►e wishes of some could be realised the whole capital of the Land Owners would be de stroyed. Mr.'HUMF. presented Petitions, sigma by Lord Killen, Daniel O'Connell, and other influential persons In Ireland, which agreed with the deplorable accounts of the state of that country given by Mr. Wilmot-Horton on Thursday night. It set forth that there was the richest Church, and the poorest people in the world in Ireland. He was at a loss how the Hon. Member (Mr. Wilnent. Horton) of the Government, could be so well persuaded of the miseries of Ireland, as to describe them as they had been described, without being ready to propose some remedy. He hoped, with the Petitioners, that the Tythe Composition Act might be re pealed, on account of its injurious tendency. Mr. GOULBURN denied the allegations of the Petition; if the Act were so injurious, let its repeal be moved; then facts could be adduced. He believed the Act had produced great diminutions. blr. J. GRATTAN said, the mischief resulted from the Ves tries, and their impositions for repairs of Churches. Sir J. NEWPORT added, that he had for years directed the attention of the House to this subject, and that Vestries had powers which operated injuriously and espeosivdy. He believed it was a great hardship to have suffered many Churches to go to ruin, and a greater to tax the Catholics for the repairs of such Churches— ( Hear). Three or four Protestants who met in vestry, exercised the power of taxing to an enormous extent, and that generally for the benefit of themselves. The Petition prayed fee the Repeal of the Irish Vestries Act, 7 Geo. IV. Mr. HUME said, he must plate more reliance on these who had suffered, than on the word of the Hon. Secretary, Mr. Goul burn, who never had seen, and never could 'es the evils under which Ireland laboured. Mr. G 0 ULBURN admitted that tbe eufferen merited attendee; but if the repeal of the Act were to be moved. he ►oped the judg ment of the House *mid be suspended till the evidence was heard that would be adduced. Mr. CiIOKER presetwa4 returns el all Mariner dismissal with out Court Martial. THE MEG 'S MESSAGE. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for the House going into a Committee on his Majesty's Message. The House then went Into a Committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, when the Parliament was called upon to consider what provision should be made for the due maintenance of any branch of the Royal Family, it was necessary to state what proximity it had to the Throne. This prin ciple was acted upon in the case of his Royal Highness the lamented Duke of Yo: k. The allowance which *as made to that illustrious individual was solely with re ference to his connexion with the Throne. It was, per haps, necessary for him to state, therefore, what was the income which the Duke of Yolk enjoyed. His Royal Highness received from the Consolidated Fund 26 5001. per annum. In addition to which sum be was in pos.ession of a pension estimated at 70001. The' Duchess of Yo, k received 40001. per annum, which was paid to the Duke only during the life of the Duchess, and at the time of her death ceased, making a total yearly income to the Royal Duke 37,5001. which sum, tilting into consideration the exalted ration of the in dividual, and his relationship to the throne of the realms, was not an extravagant sum. The income of the Duke of Clarence was 26,5001. which sum was moue by 2,0001. than was allotted to the junior branches of the Royal Family. At the time this income was assigned to him, there ace six mem bers of the Royal Family living, and their income was about 10,0001. per annum. At the death of his Royal Highness the Duke of Kent, this sum was increased to 12,0001.; the Princes and Princesses enjoys ing equally amongst them the benefit of survivorship. Subsequently in 1816, another Act, asigning to their Royal High nesses an additional 6,0001. which increased their income to 18,0001. per annum, passed. His Royal Highness at that time declined to accept the additional grant of 60001.; but in 1822, circumstances induced Nkri to take advantage of the liberality of Parliament. The allowance thus assigned to him by Parliament, added to the other source. of emolument enjoyed by his Royal Highness, gave him an income of about 26.5001. By virtue of the Act before alluded to, which gave to the Royal Family the benefit of survivorship, on the death of the Duke of York, the Duke of Cla• sence received an addition of 30001. per annum to his income, making it 29,5001. These was no separate allowstice for the Duchess, and the proposition which he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had to submit to the Rousse, was to place their Royal High nesses the Duke and Duchess of Clareia e upon an equal footing with the late Duke and Duchess of York. The Duke of York was in possession of 33,0001. and this Duchess 4 0001. and he should therefore propose an addition of 3 0001. a year to his Royal Highness, and to the Duchess 6,0004 making a sum of 9 000/, additional to h s pres:nt 1. come. It was not necessai y for him to say that giants of this kind wete not made to the individu4s, but to Veit rank and the exalted station which they might one day be c,lled to occupy in tle State. It was, to their affinity to the Throne, and upon soth a head the people of England always felt liberally.— Wi h respect to the Duchess of Clarence, she was as eminent for the virtues of her mind as for the graces of her pervn, and added one more to the list of distin guished Ladies, which formed at once tic pride. and boasted ornament of the Court of Great Britain. He felt bound to say, that the Duke of Clarence bad not been informed of the intention to bring forward this proposition until his Majesty's Me.sage had been de• livered to both Houses of Parliament. His Royal Highness expected nothing for himself. but said f e should receive with gratitude what the Nation might award to his Duchess, as it was his wish to place his Royal Consort in a situa tion congenial to her station. The Right Hon. Gentleman con cluded by moving a Resolation fur granting 5,0001. per annum to tie Duke, and 11,0001. to the Duchess of Clarence, in addition to their present income. Lord A LTHORPE opposed the grant. He regretted that, from the lamented change in affairs, the country were to be pot to an additional expense. He agreed with all that had been said of the virtues of his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence; but whilst there ap peared a deficiency in the Revenue amounting to 4,000,0001. It would have beets better that Ministers had not come forward with such a proposition. It would have bees more to the honour of the Royal Family if suat a proposition had never bees thought of. Mr. HUME thought Mini.ters could not justify themselves fir imposing on the country so onnecessary a tax as 9.0001. addition to the income which the Royal Family already derived from thepublic purse. The in come of hisßoyal Highness theDoke of Clarence was suf. fici nt to support his high station ; for, with what be received in his official capacity, it already amounted to 40 0001. He would ask of she Right Hon. Gentleman, if ir would tend to the honour of the Crown if royalty was to be supported at the expewse of a distressed people. Let him look to the Civil List, and he would soon see what large sums already sere paid for the Crown. If he looked at the pensiodli which bad been paid to the different branches of the Royal Family, in- cluding the Duke of York, Prince Leopold, Dukes of Cumberland, Clarence, and Sussex, Princess Augusta, Sophia, &c. he would find that the sum of 234,5001. was divided amongst them, which, by the simple proposition of this night, they wanted to increase to 243,5001. He would only ask the House to look at the pile of Petitions on the table, praying for economy and reduction. No individual would turn a deaf ear to their prayer, and was a Btitish House of Commons that night to do so? Let them look to the Petitions from Blackburn, where thou sands of fellow-creatures were suffering the most acute distress—to the calls from Manchester, and all the ma ilufacturing d stricts—and they would surely pause be fore such a step as that now proposed was taken.. The deficiency in the revenue, the loans from the Bank of England, and the general distress, commanded atten tion. He could not believe that the real state of the country had been represented to the King, or he never would have sent such a message down to the House. lif the tin . h was known, it originated with the Minis ters, who, as in the case of Prince Leopold, were looking l up to the rising sun, and found their own account in it. From the plain good English feeling which the late Duke of York had always exhibited, they were justified in believing that he was above all whist; parade. Considering the humane and charitable disposition generally displayed by Minis ters, at least those le that House—(osoch laughter)—he felt no little astonishment at their thus tondo& forward. He trusted, how ever, the Committee would not come to a hasty vote on a subject of such vital importance. The Hon. Gentleman concluded with moving, that the Chairman do leave the Chair. with leave to report progress to the House oa Monday. Colonel WOOD said, that 30 years ago the sum of $B,OOOl. was granted to the Duke and Duchess of York. Now, either this must have been the most unreasonable grant ever made, or the one now proposed wholly un deserving the observations of the Hen. Member for Aberdeen—(Hear, near) The question was not one of additional expense to the country, but whether the country would choose to save 9,0001. by the death of the Duke of York. Of the claims which the Duke of Cla rence possessed on the score of domestic virtues he would say nothing; this point having been most ably treated by his Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. CUR WEN said, he felt it his duty not to agree to the amend ment of the Hon. Member for Montrose. He (Mr. C.) wanted no time to make up his mind as to the propriety of the grant; but was prepared at once to give it his negative—(Hear.) Mr..l. B. MONK considered the application most HI-timed. en account of the prevailing distress. In his opinion the value of money had undergone such a change as to make 5ta9,500 the sum to be possessed by the Duke of Clarence, in reality, a larger sum than that granted to the Duke of York thirty years age. Mr. BROUGHAM said, no man was more willing than himself to support the just dignity of individuals raised by their rank to important situations; but the question now was, whether or not, in consequence of the melancholy death of the late Duke of York, the Duke of Clarence was exposed to greater expense than before? whether or not he had any additional dignity to support as Heir Presumptive, by which the scale of his expenditure must, of ntcestity—he would go further, could justly or reasonably be increased ? The Chancellor of the Exchequer had made no such statement, but rested his application on that which turned out to be mere misrecollection of facts. He said, in all fat mer in stances similar to the present, an additional grant had been made ; but though in 1806, 6,0001. a year had been added to the incomes of each of the Illustrious Princes, the grant was made with.,ut distinction. As the Right Hon. Gentleman had waived all personal grounds, and rested his claim on that of precedent only, to that point only would he (Mr. Brougham) ad dress himself. At the decease of the much lamented Princess Charlotte no additional grant was made to the Duke of York; and the allowance voted him in 1792. was nit given to him as Heir Presumptive. —I he law recognized the King, the Queen Consort, and the Heir Apparent ; but Princes Royal stood in a different point of view ; and Heirs Presump tive we. e wholly unrecognized. The Gallant Colonel said, if this propusiiion was objected to, the grant to the Duke of York must have been wrong:—very possibly, very possibly !--(Hear 1) He was one of those who thought if times had been as bad then as they-are now, that sum would not have been voted. He ent;rely agreed with the Right Hen. Gentleman when he said, that all persona! cons dei ain't. were impertinent, but he felt pleasure in stating, that the Duke and Duchess of Clarence had the least possible right to complain ef, or laterest is deprecating, a personal enquiry. Though he felt it to be his duty to vote for the delay, he should de so with regret; he regretted the subject had been questioned at all. Mt. Secretary PEEL thought no subjects so unplea sant as these, on account of their peculiatly persor,al name. They admitted, too, of no demon,tralion, unless a detail were entered into, and even that was scare y pract•cable He thought an additional income o. 3,0001. to the Duke of Clarence, and 6,000'. to his Duchess, required to support even the " decent bpi , II dour" of their strions. He repelled the odious charge of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, that he, or any of his Majesty's Ministers, were operated upon by an im proper influenee—(Haar. hear). The Hon. and Learned I Gent. (Mr. Brougham) had pursued what he considered': to be the path of his duty, dieclsinsing and deprecating all persons' reference. Surely he (Mr. Peel) might pursue his course, operated upon by a more worthy' motive than that springing from a desire to obtain pet-1 sonar favour. He did honestly believe that the Duke of Clarence would' have to sustain an increase of rati onal expenditure. (Hear.) The just claims of hence° lence would alcone occas;on a considerable increase, The Princess Charlotte, be it recollect d, was neither Heir Presumptive nor Heir Apparent, and yet there was a considerable addition granted to her income. As re garded the addition to the Duke of York's income, it ould be found, on reference to the debates, that Mr. Pitt expressly said the grant was required on account of his Royal Highness's proximity to the Crown. Mr CA LCRA FT was in favour of the gnat. Mr. Htfnill explained, amidst loud cries of ■ Question." He said several friends about him wished he had negatived the motion; but be proposed the postponement of the question, in hopes Minis ten would withdraw their proposition. The Committee then divided ma the question of adjourntopot, when there appeared—Ayes, 75; Noes, 167. The original motion was then agreed to, and the Report ordered to be received on Monday. THE Oat/NANCE lINTIMATIS. On the Order of the Day for the House going into Committee of Supply, to take into consideration the Ordnance Estimates. Mr. MABERLY opposed the Speaker's leaving the Chair. On a previous occasion he had endeavoured to impress en Ministers the necessity of laying before the House accounts of the receipts and expenditure of the _preceding year, that Members might be able to form tome idea of the resources of the country before com mitting themselves by voting away the public money. No more sufficient reason could be given for his recom mendasion, than that afforded by official documents in his possession, from which it appeared, that the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer had considerably over calculated his resources. The Hon. Gentleman then proceeded to quote from documents to a consider able extent; from which it appeared, that in 1825, there was a surplus of 5,500,0001. and the surplus of 1826 was 1,000,0001.: but there having been no Sinking Fund provided, he contended there was a deficiency of four, five, or six hundred thousand pounds When the finances of the country were in this state, it was pecu liarly necessary for Members to come to the House and watch the Estimates. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER consi. deted himself placed in a situation of much embarrass ment, for he could not satisfy the Hon. Gentleman without putting him in possession of the whole of that statement which he proposed laying before the House as soon as possible—(Hear.)—To state a part would only mislead, and he was not at present in a situation to acquaint the House what would be the revenue of the present year; he might, perhaps, have been better prepared_ 'There was an indication bete of strong feeling on the part of the Right Honourable Gentleman.]—(Load cries of Hear, hear.)—He thought it was too much to require him to give the fullest details under the present defensive or offensive cir cumstances—(Hear.)—He, however, could assure the Hopse, that whatever increase of expense might be incurred by recent transaction:, he was prepared to meet it without increasing the burthens of the country. —(Hear, /seer.) But these were two or three points to which he could refer, No doubt the surplus of the year was not more than 1,000,0001. it was, however, impossible every year to realise the expectations that might have been formed. If the Hon. Gentleman argued now on the defalcation, he was surely at liberty Ito refer to former years. In 1823, he had anticipated the surplus would be 5,000,0001. but if it turned out that there was a surplus of 6,700,0001. In the year 1824, be had expected a surplus of five or 6,000,0001. there was a surplus then of 140,0001. In 1825, the excess was 160,0001. so that in the course of the years 1823-4-5, there was a surplus over the estimates of about 3,000,C0C1. He contended he was justified in taking together the produce of these years. If then there was now a deficiency of four millions and a half, and against this were placed the surplus of former years, amounting to 3,000,0001. the real deficiency would only be one million and a half—but during the four years there had been advances, which would be repaid, and the surplus for that peri od would be found to be more than three millions. Government had pur chased a Dock, for which they had given 249,0004 but the dues would repay them, and he denied therefore that this should be considered as an expenditure.-- There was the Duke of Athol's annuity, which origi nated in this way. The Duke had a claim on the rates of the Isle of Man, to part of which it was weld known that Government was also entitled.— It was thought highly adviseable to get rid of the embarrassment by purchasing the Duke of Athol's right, and referees were appointed. Mr. Com tenay for tie Treasury. They decided that the value of the an nuity was 150,0001. but it was impossible last Parlia ment to know exactly when these Gentlemen would decide, and, therefore, their decision could not be con sidered in the Estimates. The Revenue was an improv ing Revenue, now paying 5 per cent. Could this, then, be considered part of the expenditure? Again an advance had been made to the City of London on the credit of the Orphans' Fund, for the building of London Bridge ; but this advance was paying two or three per cent. and the property of the City was pledged for ats return. It was necessary to bear in mind, that the extraor dinary circumstances of the year 1826 had encroached, in a mpst extraordinary manner,, on the Revenue ot 1827 ; which was, in fact, anticipated more than usual; this was particularly the case in the Miscella neous Estimates, which, he confessed, exceeded his estimate 100,0001. He would not attempt to dis guise his having been too sanguine in his expectation of the ways and means to meet the expenditure. The Customs and Excise of 1826 amounted to 37,846,0004 those of 1827 to but 37,446,0001. leaving a deficiency of about 400,0001. a sum which was also determinable from his having counted upon a bona fide receipt of 36,866 0001. whereas the actual receipt was but 36,420,0001. He admitted this was an error of calcu lation; but then he begged the House to take into consideration the unforeseen events cf the last two years —events that baffled ad controul, while they lay beyond all conjecture ; and he was sure they would view indulgently an error of about 420,0001. in a revenue of thirty-seven m llions and a half—(!itae.) He was also wrong in his estimate of revenue from stamps. He anticipated 7,40),0001. while he only re ceived 6,700,0001. but he p.e4Jed even for that emu ' ills perhaps too sanguine temperament, and the extra , r4inary circumstances alluded to. The Hon. Nlembei 01 *betty) iminuat..d that he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had surreptitiously jumbled up the Miscel• I ineous Estinia es with the expenditure ot the year so as to give a favourable aspect to the aggregate.— [I-lei e Maberly disclaia.ed any such rosins. fact sea', that besides his being incapsiie artifice, he never counted the Miscellaneous in broad statement of income or expenditure. tainly expected 1,300,000/. from that sonic-, it only produced 900,0001. The defalcation case lb.() e chiefly from his having valued suer coin which was to come to the Treasui Ireland, in lieu of the new assimilated curt , 40140091. whereas 240.0001. worth had come country ; but then this payment was still in and would ultimately be equal to his val. He committed another error—indeed, a glar , take—in relation to his estimate of rtvenue , Lo: net ; he thought, as he found out errocei that 180,0004 at least, would remain in t! ot the Treasury Trustees at his disposal. noticed the leading argaments of the HL Gentleman. He confessed his errors, he stated grounds, and was still anxious and ready to coif House by a detailed account of the ways and the conntry as contrasted with the expenditu. notwithstanding the tact that there remained net surplus of one million of income over expenditure, the was equal to all its engagements at bowie and abroad. its establishments upon their present footing, and to honour unsullied in the eyes of the werld—(Clieers). Mr. MA DKR LY explained. Mr. HUME contended that a sufficient cs been made out on the Right Hon. Gentleman chewing, to induce the House to pause eta it ; to estimates of equal amount to those of 1825, the Revenue exceeded that of the present 2,400,0001. The Right Hon. Gentleman that he had a net surplus of income over expenditure of but one million, while the Act of Parliament sisted on a surplus of five Millions to roust' Sinking Fund. how, so far from there surplus at all, there was an actual defict 4,570,0001. for the Right Hon. Gentleman redeemed, it were, five millions funded debt, by actually ing four m Ilion' and a half from the Bank of in addition to his assumed surplus of one mil come ever expenditure. This sum must be , Bank with interest ; and yet the Right Hon. Gentleman, keeping this loan system entirely out of view, House to agree to extravagant estimates, wit baying previously, as the Ministers of Americ France and the Netherlands did, laid before 0 state of the finances of the country,so that they pot ti sn the expenditure to the ways and means it. The Hon. Member contended, that but annuity loans of 580,00(1 and for the funding eight millions of Four per Cents. fast year, that fic.ency would be much greater; and that ters were kept out of view by the Chancellor chequer. By the debt of the Government to of IS millions, the country lost, to all intents poses, 1,610,000/.; and by the system of fist, standing debts, the country lost 140,0001. per The Hon. Member strongly condemned the of this country in the affairs of Portugal, par under the distressed condition of the country. had enough to do at borne, without making . the arbiter of the affairs of Europe, and is ithoni vast and unprofitable expense, seeking Glory at the cannon's meutlx—(Great laughter., —The Hon. Member concluded with • moving, amendment to the proposition of the Speakers ' the Cale—" That this House will not agree to any Notimates the Ordnance, Army, nor Navy Departments, till the Miniv the Crown have laid before them the 'racial accounts of expenditure et the country for ;he current year, and - sod Means to meet that expendit ure ." Mr. BARING approved tf the principle . soluti in of his Hon: Friend, which was in unison the practice of Ministers in foreign countries— same time that he must admit, it would be expect that a Chancellor of the Exchequer such an arithmetical juggler as to tell, d priori, to the how much the expenditure would keep pace with the thought without Y'sinking Fund surplus of at least five . Government would be unequal to the accidental expenses year. The Gallery was about to be cleared for a division, amendment was negatived without the House dividing the House resolved intself into a Committee on the ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. Sir H. HARDINGE thought it but right that though the Estimates this year were lower than those of last year, or of any year the House should not expect this reduction , manent. The whole Estimates amounted 970,8141. being nearly 36,7771. less than The first saving was one of 33081. (which would the case next year) granted for raising the Civil Officers front 70 to 80. Circumstances prevent this augmentation taking place till next year. In the branch of Ordnance Extraordinary, there was a saving of 50001. In the Irish department, there was a dit• ference of 40001. owing to the topographical survey now going on in that country employing 200 men cf the engineer department, who were executing a work most valuable in itself, and most uselul to them as members of the Army. The Estimate for English Barracks amounted to 165,2491. heing3l,Blsl. Ins than the Estimate of last year. This reduction was in consequence of 25,0041, which was last 'ear voted for the King's Mews Barracks, was not, and would not be employed till next year. In the lush barrack estimate there was a reduction of 7,7091. but that reduction would cease next year, in consequence of the necessity of building a depot for recruits. In the Military Stores there was a reduction of 27,2001. the estirna.e this year being but 135,2051. The supple. mental estimates amount to 217,480/. teing,7 s 3ool more than that of last year. This was chiefly owing to the transfer of the Colonial and Military Carriage Depart ments to the Ordnance. In the former the expense was increased by the building of the Quebec citadel, which as owing to the dilatory mode of only working in the Autumn. - The first Resolution, that of 148,478 fur the payment of the salaries of the Lieut.-General and other Officers of the Ordnance, was £3,800 less than last year, by the Master-General of the Ordnance not having accepted of any salary as such since his ap pointment of Commander4o-Cbief—(Hear, bear!)—was agreed to* after a few words from Mr. Maar, who objected to the natan t. increase of the expence of Offices In the Tower and Westminster— from £lB,OOO last year to £48,000 this year. Those offices wept to be consolidated in the Office In Pall-mall. Sir H. HARDINGE denied the possibility of this, free the limited space and number of Clerks in the Ordnance Office is Pall.malL—Tjhe Wit Resolution, granting— £B,2sl to defray the expences of Officers on foreign statism 58,221 for Civil Establishments on foreign stations. 3,780 for Garrison in Calcutta. 71,782 for Expences of the Royal Engineer Corps. 259,136 for Expenees of the Royal Artillery. 241,042 for Royal Horse Artil.ery. 1,241 for Field-piece Rspences. 7,243 for Medical Expences of Ordnance. 4,045 fur Royal Ac...reary at Woolwich. 156.164 for Ordnance Estimates Extraordinary. 205,1e0 fur Stores, 11 ks, &c. Mr. HA RING asked whether, in adlition to the fortress st claci CC, it was the intention of the Govet nment to fortify.ths hue of use Liwieoce front the Lake °merit, down to Qr.:bee ? 11111".11111Pl itellrildr. BERNAL presented Roc r, praying for al I in the OprnActr tt, for Retrenchment.—Ordered Sir T. D. A ICT.AND preientea a Petition from the when rd occupier M land, tradesm e x i iind others of a parish Devon- lire. priming Ole Ileum r 'ls to a due protection to the landed • tere...fiettleatd tote printed. ie of such not e F. u T his i°l irate.tr ult I r aets e l : 11.t:2 1 11tht hnee n I i f e r a t in i .1.611113 11 g I 1 tri i d old J currency, at dt ill fa trengp s ven p iluaos e en tiganv ci l H f i a t tr o r u n i.e i ntic o e gr u ell t:a trn t a: i b i ld:7 4 l : t ' I rales:ili a : rin h e e :nate s i t n a mainu te " s i t their i it r a • t or y to satisfy the lit rs and means of era iiture, the amain abroad, to %upon mn). Hex Rcient cave had entlecnan's otta ie ere it agreed of 1823, whe n ,resent year by russet admitted , • 1 trey exprnditure ofl Parliament in• jell to constitate a to sere being any firs 1 deficiency of lni an redeemed, as W ctually borrow. tisi ank of England, coo ne million of in. far st be paid to the Lit lon. Gentlemas, pri f view, asks the Tit let, without his sil )t America, of the before them the Ar t they might ap. means of paying (A but fob the life funding of tl.e ear. that the de. that these mat. ggs cellor of the Er. - Ga em to the Bank 4 : 6 intents and put. 1 • of funding out. is XX. per *imam. am the interfereece • ;al, pat titular. y au entry. Min;stets Ye aking England sal 1 without, at a to laughter.) Gs • am moving, as an ON i pe nwi a tyhe keT t leaving listmspiistastosttstra manta elf the tan • saa..ttbs Wap am Hot WI Sl' al Ira d rainel' cntaot unfair tln etv ; 111 0 . ci t:th er e ele c)ud t i paley, be .- 4 .111111 h the income. lk mat five millions* al expenses of * division, bat the dividing on it, and the • WI • rightto a e e x t p ea lsin cy t a were d: year since 1793, sit action to be per- of ouited ti but Ist than last year ch would not be . ai the number of b nstances present it year. In the o f me was a saving there was a dit• raphical survey ing 200 men LE re executing a • u most useful to h se Estimate for r hieing 31,8191. This reduction 1 was last year t was nut, and . In the lush of 7,7091. but consequence of 1 ecruits. In she of 27,2001. the I. The supple- • I ing,7 7 3001 more By owing to the arriage Depart- • the expense was , !c citadel, which working in the the payment of the ▪of the Ordnance, ' 4 ter-General of the t such since big ap- . e!)—was agreed Ms ad to the malaise and Westminster— Those offices ought 'a rof this, from the it .irdnance Office Ut • on foreign madams. ,n stations. see Corps. ry. e. nary. m the fortress st to fortify.t he hue of to Qicbee?