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riIMENTifRr PROCEEDINGS. IUSE 07 LORDS, JANUARY le. CHANCELLOR took bis seat on the Woolsack, 'cluck, and after Prayers were read, a few Orders rh respect to judicial business. Their Lordships for some time clearing pleasure 'clock the House resumed. ;inn of the Earl of LIVERPOOL, the ballot lists of . Lords given In by Peers present, fir the purpose of rermuirter of their Lordships, for the examination of Physicians, were ordtr-d to be referred to rise exa- Lortl President arid other Peers, to report the Lords so chosen. ,ling accordingly took place, and a few Peers re o examine the Lists. 'They ehortly after nturned, were read by Lori \VALSINGH.\M at the Ta d stinguish only the names of Lords Catering, ..RLY, KEITH, and ELLENBOROUGH• LiVERPOOL then moved—" That the said zny eght or more of them, do meet at the hour Monday next, in the Prince's Chamber, fur xsmiiiirg the Physicians attending on his Ma ig the actual state of his Majesty's health, and that i"o have power to adjourn, &c."—Ordered. - ins i❑ ini..-.ietiiate attendance, viz. Doctors Munrne, Jon, and Simmonds, were then introduced to the with respect to their intruded evidence before Committee. AS made for the attendance of Sir Henry Halford, mining Physicians, on Monday next, for the purpose ALSINGHAM, from the Committee appointed to - , te of their Lordships' Journals, reported that two lumes thereof were printed, and ready for delivery. lon of the Earl of LIVERPOOL certain additional dative to the state of the Finances of the Country, to be laid before the House; to this proceeding he consequence of what had fallen from a Noble upwl the subject, and the motions made by him, de Secretary of State) wished that every possible thrown upon the subject. THANKS TO LORD MINT°. of LIVERPOOL, in rising to move the day relative to the motion of Cianks to co, was anxious to impress upon the House \idiots to frequent votes of that nature.— of Parliament ought not to be common. :quiesced entirely in the principle of limit tanks to naval and military services—but in the present instance an exception,—a xception—of able policy combining with military effort. He would go slightly into - .rs. It had been early in the war, an ob overnment to put an end to the French ewer, in both worlds. Though France have the dominion of the seas, or any thing to shape of a formidable naval power; yet, her colonies remained, so long as she had fous, a spot from which an expedition could Jur trade was liable to continual loss and ion. It was resolved, that France should -wer at sea ; and that if she had grown ipon the Continent, to the Continent her should be restricted. It was resolved, that as France had upon the Continent, Eng ad have a prouder, plainer, more unequi aver upon the sea. The system pursued in . Indies was to root out the power of France ;quest of her islands—not, in all cases, for ision ; for some of those conquests involved an expenditure of life and money—but to sing to France in the West Indies. If this policy was wise in the West, in the East it was tie- Though France had no footing on the • of India, yet, in the perpetual eqeiprnents from her islands, the most serious evils occurred to trade, particularly that of ndia Company. The Cape had. become and it was taken from them in the be of the war. It was next deemed important possession of Mauritius and Bout bon.— 'ere certain circumstances to prevent this po being touched on before : but, in Decem , the probability of taking those Islands by was suggested by some persons of great rwledge. They were blockaded, and the Rodriguez taken early in 1809. Friun the ndia, no arrangements were made for the Bourban and Mauritius, until June, 1810 ; instructions were sent out from this country. he infinite credit of the Noble Person at the affairs in India, he had already made his !orts. He felt authorised to proceed, as in • of the blockade he had been directed, in island should be taken by that mode, to gar. troops from India. Acting then in the it of his instructions, he equipped, and of his ition'sent, the expedition which in July took and in December Mauritius. The acquisi lose islands was principally to be Attributed 41, judgment, and discretion of the Noble .arty in 1809, Lord Minto contemplated the of Java, not as the centre of the Dutch, but 'rench possessions. Circumstances delayed sment ; but still it was determined to proceed after the capture of Mauritius and Bourbon. -ere the first objects, perhaps not of equal magnitude, but they were felt in the passage fli.et to India. Java was a m , re remote 'he attack was however resolved on. Lord , veepool said, he adverted more peculiarly to this, never knew, in his experience, a success which attributed more to the individual than in :truce. The season of the year, it was known, primarily consulted in Indian expeditions ; were pers: ns of great information who se lopbted if the expedition could be prepared after the return of the troops from tl.e cap las. Lord Minto had already employed r of the most distinguished knowledge and n this enquiry, and found out that by fur navigation different from the usual one, he each Java, He acted here upon his own re 'ity. The expedition was made ready : it was , from other causes ; it sailed ; and early in .nber the island was conquered. He (Lord '4°ol) thought it his indispensable duty to move 'ts to the man who had done all this. He knew general rule of confining thanks to the naval and ''• - service, because in those there was always for applause ; but, as there might be a diffe ' opinion as to the conduct of those persons l acted in a civil capacity, they were to look • approbation. The oh;ection Was allowable; there were exceptions—brilliant exceptions-on lie would not then touch more largely (allud presume, to Marquis Wellesley, who was ~ But he had even a right to call this septic& Minter a military service ; it was the result item, y4sely planned, sticcessfully pursued, . , and admirably concluded. In paying their tribute, fined to the mere agents who seeomplishea the pro- the thanks of this House be given to the Right , their Lordships would not refuse to the gallant Offi- ject; because the ultimate glorious success with which nourable Gilbert Lord Minto, Governor-General cars employed, the return which was their due. They our arms were cowned was acquired only by the ; India, for the wisdom and ability with which would recollect the admirable exertions of General long previous consideration of the Governor-General, British resources and troops were employed Abercrombie, in the Isl an d s , an d his final exertion ,from the commencement of operations in the Indian reduction of the enemy in the Eastern Seas, by in sending back the troops in time to sail for Jay:l,o! Ocean, till our triumph was completed by the cap- conquest of the islands of Bcurbon, Mauritius, In alluding to the Mauritius, he WAS sure he needed . lure of Java. Lord Minto had constantly represented Java, and that the House does attribute the h-' only to mention the name of Commodore Rowley, to to Government the propriety of reducing the enemy success which attended our arms on those , excite universal regard. In est conquest of Java, for the security of the British trade in that quarter of to the vigorous sys em and judicious measures the 'British force had to meet no . contemptible enemy' the globe. It would be necessary to remark, that at ed and pursued by his Lordship. —their strength was pow er f u l and m itured ; and if the commencement of the war in 1803, express di- The question having been put from the , time had been given to it, it must have grown into a • rections had been given to the Governor of India, Mr. SHERIDAN rose and said, that he most formidable enemy to th e British empire in the ' that he should not engage the troops under his orders a moment's hesitation in concurring with 0 East. There was an Officer, who, on this occasion, 'in any important or expenrive expeditions, but in the Honourable Gentleman on the otl ers'de of the , had eminently distingui s h e d himself—an Officer latter end of the year 1808, such intelligence was ob- : that no thanks the House could bestow would known to his country before by brilliant services, by I tamed as to the state of the French possessions , that adequate reward for the gallantry and discirr judgment, by spirit, by activity. Colonels Gillespie ;it was believed that a well-concerted blockade of played by the British army ; but, however uri and Ward, too, were not t o b e passed over, when , ' the Islands of Bourbon and Mauritius would pro- , the task might be, he could not prevail upon admirable and splendid services were to be praised . I duce their surrender. A blockade was in consequence to say, that.the same claim existed on behalf of L. What was the result of th o se noble labours ? Not , ' declared, and instructions were sent out to Lord . Minto , to justify the pompons phraseology employed the mere seizure of an hostile possession—not the I Minto, to carry it into execution, and the Island of ,in the motion just read. In the first place it Ough t mere acquirement of an old colony—but the extinc- I Bourbon was ceded to the British forces in Septem- to be made out, that it was not only extremely esses. tion of a new Empire in the East (hear, hear.) His her, 1809. Soon after this, such information was i tial to the success of the undertaking, but that it wi t Lordship then proceeded to move o That the thanks obtained as led to the belief that a force of about absolutely necessarythat the Governor-General :heal of the House should be given to Gilbert Lord Minto, 2000 men would be sufficient to effect the surrender , forsake his station at Dengal, to enter on a voyage for his zeal, wisdom, and ability, in attacking the t of the Mauritius, and the Governor-General deter- I for six weeks or two months, to be present at the too enemy's possessions in the East." mined to appropriate 3,700 of his troops to this im- ! quest of Batavia— (Hear, hear.) Nothing but also The Earl of MOI RA had no idea of opposing the p or tant object ; but, in the mean-time, requited in -1 lute necessity could justify the forsaking of the true vote. He had rather risen to join his humble ap- structions from Great Britain. By a singular coin. ' reposed in him elsewhere. Much merit had be en at , plause to that of the House. Lord Minto deter- cidence, the intelligence which induced Lord Minto tributed to Lord Miato from the circumstance, that, ved their thanks. The military actions could not to undertake this operation, about the same time ar- at the time the dispatches from this country, autho. have been done without the admirable arrangement rived in this country, and when the dispatches arrived rising him to undertake the Expedition against Kay which had been made by the Governor General.— in India, authorizing the Governor-General to pro. skins, every thing had been prepared for that There was precedent for votes of this nature, but if ceed against the island, all the necessary preparations pose, and yet on the first check received the there was not, this ought to be made a precedent. were completed for that object, so that had no intel- object of the armament must have been disappoint e d, The whole .conduct was meritorious in the highest ligence been received from home, Lord Minto had I had it not been for the admirable conduct of Cap. degree. Tiii-decision of Sir Samuel Auchmuty, and determined to act on his own responsibility. The tain Rowley (whose merits could not be over-stated) the entire plin of attack, under the most difficult capture of the Mauritius was effected, and though a who maintained, with an inferiur forte, the honour and unpromising circumstances, did him high ho- most important acquisition in a commercial point of and superiority of our flag, Whatever applau se nose. There could be no doubt as to the service view, it did not appear to be of that brilliant charac. was due to Captain Rowley for this circun stree t , done to the country in the conquest of Mauritius. It ter to deserve the Thanks of Parliament. There was must, of necessity, he withdrawn from Lord Mara was not a superficial conquest. It placed our corn- one circumstance which occurred after the capture of The next merit attributed to the Governor-General merce in a state of new security. He could not, how. the Island of Bourbon, and before the surrender of is that the time of year the expedition against Bata. ever, admit the whole broad principle of effectuallyop- Mauritius, which well merited peculiar notice. The via was undertaken, rendered the success extremely posing France on the Continent by the capture of its House would recollect, that an attack had been made doubtful, and Admiral Drury, who had been long islands. He wus always of opinion that power on upon a fort on the south-east of Mauritius, which at in those seas, from the lateness of the season despair. the Continent would bring with it ships, colonies and first was attended with the greatest success; but the ed of accomplishing the object; but that the G,vvra. commerce. He was adverse to the system of island consequence of the achievement was, that the British nor General had made himself, in Bengal, so meth conquests. They were scarcely any thing more than navy became numerically inferior to that of the mere master of the subject than the - British Naval the purchase of a more extended cemetery for our French, but by the signal, and most distinguished Commander, that it was determined to proceed, soldiers. As a soldier, he (Lord Moira) must thank exertions of Captain Rowley, who commanded, the The Right Honourable Member congratulated.the the Noble Secretary for the handsome and honour: naval superiority of the British flag was re-establish- House that Lord Minto was so datingu;shed as able manner in which lie proposed the thanks to the ed and maintained (Hear, hear.)—This reverse of Admiral, and he hoped that he would likewise prose army. He could now only offer his fullest and most fortune contributed most materially to the success himself, without the aid of Ministers, a great General; hearty concurrence in the motion. of the enterprise. After the fall of these Islands, it was, however, no great compliment to our Naval The Earl of BUCK INGHAMSHIR.E, in a few the necessity of the reduction of Java forcibly struck Commanders, who bad devoted their attenticp solely words, returned thanks for the Tribute paid to Lord the intelligent and active mind of the Governor-Ge- to matters of navigation. Was it to be believed, Ilia Minto, in whose praise he was interested by every neral ; and consonant with this opinion were the dis- so experienced an officer as Admiral Drury was tole motive of affection and esteem. patches received in England from him, in which he instructed by the Governor-General; and in this is. Lord GRENVILLE rose with peculiar pleasure informed Ministers that he should make the necessary stance too, if any merit were due to Lord Mints), e upon this occasion. He must first return his thanks to arrangements, employing the reinforcements he ex- must be detracted in the same proportion from Aden the Noble Secretary for his speech, In the course of petted from Europe, and lee trusted that the sanc- ral Drury.—The Right Hon. Gentleman coult: his Parliamentary experience, he had never heard a tion of Government would arrive in India before the means concur in the opinion expressed, that more manly, candid, eloquent statesman-like speech sailing of the Expedition. So it fortunately happen- portance of the acquisition of the nation was note from any Noble Peer of that House. He was glad, ed, and the armament sailed in the month of April. be contemplated in a question of this kind--- 11 ii.a this instance, not to be obliged to have any doubt Here it was absolutely necessary to notice a circum- must not," says the Chancellor of the Ex , about his vote. The thanks of the House had been stance that reflected the highest credit on the talents " enter upon that, for it will be sure to produce adi too often given, particularly of late ; but now they and exertions of Lord Minto. Froni the lateness of ference of opinion."—Unquestionably Sir Sarni were proposed for a distinguished union of political the season, Admiral Drury, who then commanded, Auchmuty, Colonel Gillespie, and the other btu and military success. What he most admired was, apprehended that the south-west winds might defeat soldiers engaged, had done their duty in obeying di I not merely the wisdom of the plan or the boldness of the object of the expedition, and expressed his opi- orders of their superiors, and they deserved a reward its execution, but that courage which had taken on nion that it ought to be resigned until next year. The for their valour; but when it was demanded of toe itself the awful responsibility of such an enterprise. Governor-General, ever anxious in enquiries which House to pass a vote of Thanks to the planner of for He could not think that the thanks were only due could promote the design, had obtained such infer- expedition, because it has succeeded. surely it wink for military services ; when courage and policy were mation, and laid down such course of navigation for not be denied that now was the most proper tinny) evident and eminent in any great situation, there the the fleet, that the British Admiral was convinced of consider what was the value of the acquisiticiat— thanks of that House should, in his opinion, be eon- the practicability of that which before he had thought " No," says the Chancellor of the Exchequer ape, ferred. When those thanks were given to the Go. at least hazardous, if not impossible. Admiral Drury " you must not inquire whether it is worth the =WI vernur-General, it would be singularly invidious to unhappily died before the sailing of the armament, precious lives it has cost ? Whether we can quitit refuse them to those Officers who had alike displayed and the naval command devolved upon Commodore without leaving the natives to certain destructios? every noble quality of their situation. The danger Broughton : the army was beaded by General Sir or whether certain destruction will not attend ix and di ffi culty of the attempt, the wisdom with which Samuel Auchmuty. They sailed in April, arrived at troops if they remain r , These inquiries were tole the difficulty was met, and the courage with which Malacca in June, and on the 4th of August arrived passed over; inquiries which he (Mr. S.) wooldles the danger was triumphed over, were all to be taken off the city of Batavia. The Right Hon. Gentleman to have answered by some of the East India DM into the estimate of applause. He wished to assure here detailed the circumstances of the landing, ;he tors, who, by some unlucky accident, on a inestiaat their Lordships, than in speaking thus, no personal surrender of Batavia, and the storming of Fort Cor- which they were peculiarly concerned, were all a' consideration of feeling or affection was suffered to nelis, dwelling with peculiar warmth on the gallantry sent from the House.—(Herno hear, hear.) —Whys( press upon him. No matter what his sentiments displayed by Col. Gillespie who led the gallant troops i the conquest was worth the blood it had cost, 1 11.1 8 of regard might be, he would strenuously resist the in this dangerous service, who defeated . the enemy at i they backward in giving their share of applause ?r thanks, if he conceived they were to be unworthily the point of the bayonet, leaving 500 dead upon the i There were no terms of approbation too strong It given. field. It was not unworthy of remark, that at the ; applied to Sir Samuel Auchmuty, for his skill and a. Lord LIVERPOOL then moved, the Thanks of time the enemy was flying in all directions, the gal- 1 trepidity, because he had been compelled to engage the House to the Governcr General of India, Gilbert lant Col. Gillespie, who had previously been indispo- lin a project, than which it was confessed Lord Minor. sed, lamented that he had no horse to pursue them, ! more hazardous; and at one This was followed by separate votes of thanks to and whet one was supplied him he fainted with fa- I betwe:n adventurous fortitude Generals Auchmuty and Abercromby, Admirals Ber- tigue while attempting to mount. The subsequent I treat : either Fort Cornelis , tie and Stopford, Lieutenant Colonels Gillespie and attempts of the English were equally prosperous, and or the expedition relinquished Wetherball, Commodores Rowley and Broughton, the formidable redoubts raised by the enemy fell be- I would have destroyed our the officers and soldiers of the British and Native Ar- fore them, as if they possessed no means of resistance. I Gentleman over the way would . mies, and the officers, sailors, and marines employed He would not follow further the steps of our gallant I the storming of Fort Cornelis wa in the expeditions to Mauritius, Bourbon, and Java. army ; the impression was fresh upon the minds of it had been in agitation whether The Loan CnANCELLOR was directed to forward all , the only di ffi culty was to say who had dis- should not aband on a project, • the Thanks to Lord Minto and the Army. The tinguished themselves most, but surely among the' was almost visionary, and Thanks to the Navy were ordered to be forwarded foremost was Colonel Macleod, who, after covering were attained, but a name. through the Admiralty.—The House adjourned. himself with glory, fell under the shadow of his lau- that Lord Minto should accona rels. Hitherto the Right Honourable Gentleman 'He (Mr. Sheridan) had a had made no mention of Sir Samuel Auchmuty, whose' controul being exercised over modesty in not noticing himself in his dispatches,' savoured too much of the should rather be an additional inducement to display a Deputy from the Colleen, his merits. Lord Minto,however,had not been equally 1 the troops—not to share the silent ; and in his letter to the East India Company, in the glory.—(Near, hear: had bestowed upon the Gallant General that praise with respect cf Lord Minto which none more than himself could deserve. With ; felt), but be could not but regard to the naval part of the expedition, although conduct in Corsica, under its services had not been so prominent, they were character of that universally not the less important ; of the marines engaged on risked, and his fame extinguished, shore, distinguished notice had been taken, and when a ma ose very the complete subordination of the whole to the patriotism er it was general design could not be too highly extolled. been proscri in comical; —Upon occasions of this description, the precise im. Lord Minto. Uniting all , portance of the object of attack ought to be as little saw no reason for his presence, , as possible mixed in the conside rat i on o f t h e ac hi eve - ; vote now proposed. The meat performed ; although, indeed, if that point ' General from Bengal could were to be discussed, the infinite importance of the tage ; and on the other hand acquisition would, he had little doubt, not be denied counterbalance it, since no by all impartial men, when it was considered not only shew that the object of o of what use this refuge for the enemy had been, but slightest degree accelerated with the known activity of th e French char acter, ' # part of it. might in future be converted. As the main object in Mr. YORKE wished to a vote of the kind now proposed was unanimity, the i which induced him Right Honourable Gentleman tru s ted that no su bj ect ti rlt was certainly a matter pf dissention would be touched upon, and that the sideratlon #3f 'the House, whether House would concur not only that the navy and army was an object in itself wise were entitled to parliamentary thanks, but that the that enquiry he would not. Governor-General wad ro less deserving of this dis- sent. He would only observe, tinguished reward. . He concluded by moving, That the nature of our extensive -- PiIRLL HOB The LORD C about four o'cluc were made with then adjourned f At five o'clock On the mptinr the name.; of Lot forming a Como bis Majesty's Ph Initiation of the names of the Lot This proceedi tired it order to and the names a tole ; we could d IGIUNVILLE, Gi The Earl of Commit tee, or ; of one o'clock 01 the purpose of t • levy, re,pectitig the Committee The Physician kieberJe Bar, and sworn their Lordships' An order was and other remai of being sworn. Lord WALS Inspect the state additional Volu On the motto documents relat were ordered to was induced in Lord last night as he (the Nobl light might be t • The Earl order of the , Lord Minto, his disincline The thanks He even acq ing those tlw there was it splendid etc successful m those =tut ject with G . colonial pov might not h that had the so long as h a rendezvou proceed, nu molestation. have no pov powerful ui power shout such power land should vocal power the West It by the tong the possessi , too heavy leave nothii policy was cessary. Continent c that issued and losses the East It French, al ginning of to obtain There wen licy from b ber, 1808, blockade local kilos island of state of In , attack on and then i: But to the bead of 2 praparat:o . the order case the rison it wi _ true spirit own mai( Bourbon, tion of the to the anal Lord. E. conquest pf the Fre the equips -iivith it aft •• 'Those wet 'eventual every fl ; object. TI iv °i as he neve ° was to be this install was to be 'and there Tiously do in time, 2 Lured Mat an officer ability on suing a r: Enight tea sponstbilit delayed p December Liverpool thanks to the genet: military ;round ii mote of c who had fir other but there which he ing, we preSellt). of Lord l Of 4 s)it (tight No. 'enerai which tht, yed in th. IS, by t h e ritius, and brillia nt occasion s , uses adopt. Chair, he had net the Righ t the House, 'ould be as du„ ungraciou s ion hins se u ialf of lad it was confessed none Int one time he had no civic' itude and a disgraceful ft- is must be taken by store , shed ; for a regular sill r army. The )tight Hai would not deny, that befits nelis was determined s 4 whether the British trotut oject, the success of sittti 4 d the reward, if the ne. Why was it accompany the armamot 4 a rooted dislike to any over an army or navy. It 1 f French Revolution, sir ention always accomptor he danger ' but top e tr!)—He wished to Om j nto (for personal respect it recollect somethings( • Sir John Moore, wb-0 ' sallT lamented Officer . aguished, by his • • , y name inspired a glom was menti ned, had Luence of the proceedings all these circumstances► sence, and no reason lot e absence of the Go )uld be no small di • • hand there was nosh o proof bad been air the expedition was ed by his Lordship to state, very shortly. rts to support the present matter very fit trr the A : whether the conquest of se and import.= ; M. Renter at any length Is ,serve, that, no doubt,. . re commerce in the ' HOUSE OF COMMONS. The House, on the motion of Mr. Wit A&TON, resolved itself into a Committee on the Coal trade Bill, which was read a se cond time, and ordered to be committed on Monday next. The House resolved itself into a Committee of Supply, when a Resolution was adopted, that the Report be neared on Mon day neat. Mr. WHARTON presented a Bill to permit the Sugars and Coffee of Martinique and the other conquered Islands is the West Indies, to be warehoused in the same manner with British Sugars. Read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday NIGHTLY WATCH. Mr. RYDER rose, in pursuance of his notice of a , motion relative to a Committee to take into cousi- I deration the Nightly Watch ; but observed, that it would be improper to enter into a discussion of this subject while so many Members, who were best ac quainted with it, were absent at the Quarter.sessionst he should, therefore, postpone his motion till Friday next, and conceived that there would be no appre hensions of danger from this delay, since the late dis orders bad produced increased vigilance op the pan of the Magistrates. THANKS TO LORD MINTO AND SIR &MOIL AUCHVUTY, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in rising to submit his motion for the Thanks of the House for the late brilliant achievements in the Eastern qeas, observed, that although the individuals .rho were more particularly concerned in the con, quests deserved the most distinguished admiration, yet he thought the apptaose due ought not to be con,