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riloyether, required the utmost diligence to be used in eollect !r. information, and therefore he should move that a committee u' precedents be appointed to sit tomorrow for the purpose of searzhing for pr ec edents. (Hear, hear.) Further, he thought it but decent, considering all the circumstances, that the second read. 71. g of the hill should be postponed for one day more. His object .N4s by no means to create delay, and he hoped when the house ...bov to a discuuion upon the second reading of the bill, that no difficulty would be found to its passing, but he trusted his Majesty's min;sters would not object to postpone the second readin of it to Thursday next.— (Hear, hear.)—No duration of the Act had been mentioned by the noble and learned Lord. He thought the house ought to have some information on this important point; that the duration should not extend longer than was absolutely necessary, and that it should be subject to the revision of Parliament before the present Session was at an end. The Duke of WELLINGTON made an observation or two in an inaudible voice. He stated that he and those with whom be was associated, should have no objection whatever to delay the second reading till Thursday. The LORD CHANCELLOR would certainly reserve to their Lordships the power of altering or amending the bill during the present session. There could be no objection whatever to its coming under the revision of Parliament again during the sitting of the house.—The bill was then read a first time, ordered to be printed, and to be read a second time on Thursday next. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved that the standing orders of the house, Nos. 98 and 173, be suspended, so as to enable the bill to pass all its stages in one night —Agreed to. Earl GREY moved that a select committee be appointed to search for precedents, in order to ascertain the mode in which it was cus tomary, under circumstances' like the present, to affix the sign ma. nual to official documents.—Agreed to. A Committee, consisting of 24 Peers, amongst whom are the Lord Chancellor, the Duke of Wellington, the Archbishops of ' Canterbury and York, the Bishop of London, the Lord Privy Seal, Lords Sidmouth, Redesdale, Manners, Holland, Grey, and Ten. terden, were then appointed; and it was agreed for them to sit to morrow. CONFERENCE. A message from the Commons, brought up by Sir A. GIANT and other Members, requested a conference with the Lords on the amendment made by their Lordships in the Administration of Jug. tice Bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR informed the Messengers that the Lords would hold a conference accordingly in the Painted Chamber. —. El;;l.)uke of WELLINGTON then nominated several Lords to Manage the conference, and they withdrew for that purpose. The Marquis of LANSDOWN renewed a motion which he made yesterday for the copy of an order front the Treasury, directing the Customhouse to consider West India produce subject to 41 per cent duties. The noble marquis considered the said order an infringe. ment of a custom which bad prevailed 170 years. The Duke of WELLINGTON did not object to the production of the paper moved tor by the noble marquis. He could not enter into the history of the 41 per cent. duties, but it was quite clear the articles on which those duties were paid were not the property of the Crown. It was a recognised principle that the property of the Crown was not liable to duties. The noble duke having been interrupted in his speech by the appearance of the managers of the conference, the subject was ad. ponied during pleasure. Earl BATHURST and the ether members of the conference re turned to the house, and communicated the subject to their lord ships. It had reference to the address and resolutions passed by the Commons in the case of Sir Jonah Barrington. On the motion of the Duke of WZLLINGTOW, the consideration of them was postponed till Thursday se`nnight. The Duke of WELLINGTON again addressed the house on the subject of the sugar duties, which had been broken off in con sequence of the conference with the Commons. The noble duke begged to inform the noble marquis who moved for the papers, that by Act of Parliament the funds arising from the 41 per cent. duties were applicable to the payment of the stipends and salaries of certain officers in the West Indies ; these funds were therefore entirely taken from the sown, if he might so say, and were in the hands of parliament t in short, they were public funds. The Marquis of LANSDOWN said a few words in reply, and the papers were then ordered to be laid on the table. On,the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWN the consideration of the Law Reform Bill, which stood for that day, was postponed till to.morrow (this day,) and then to take precedence of all other business. The Doke of BUCKINGHAM presented a petition from a piaci in Yorkshire, praying for a removal of the sashes to NVake EAST imiroaD DISTILANCHISENEXT lIILL. The Marquis ofSALISBURY moved the order of the day, for proceeding with the evidence in the above bill. Counsel and wit. nesse' were then called in, and the examination was proceeded with as heretofore, until the usual hour of adjournment. HOUSE OF COMMONS—Tuzsnty. BARRIO AND TuR s Mr. HOBBOUSE presented a petition from the journeymen bakers of London, and the towns and villages within ten miles round etropo agaLust "bakiw" on Sunday. Sir T. BARING and Mr. Alderman THOMPSON supported the prayer of the petition, and expressed the hope that a bill would be butt in to protect the Sabbath against profanation. Mr. HUME said he could not help thinking that any interference by parliament to controul the trade of the bakers would be wholly unnecessary, and that the house might be much better employed than in any such legislation. Petition ordered to be printed. Mr. HOBHOUSE presented a petition from Henry Jackson, foe liberty to run " omnibuses" through the streets of London, to carry passengers such distances in the metropolis as they might wish to go. —Ordered to Ile on the table. Mr. HOBBOUSE presented a petition from Chichester against negro slavery. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the master bakers of the metropolis, against Sunday bakings. Mr. SLANEY observed that this measure, if the house could be brought to consider it, would be to produce the very opposite effect of that which was desired, which was the best possible o bse rvance of the Sabbath. By being enabled to send dinners to the bakehouses, the owners had the opportunity of attending divine worship ' • but if the regulation desired could be made law, the baker might attend chapel, if so disposed, while others would be obliged to remain at home, to cook their dinners, if they desired comfortable meals once in the week. He thought the contemplated interference to be any thing but judicious.-- - Petition ordered to be printed. Sir E. VIVIAN presented a petition from Stockton, in Cornwall, against the Sale of Bea BilL—Ordered to be printed. Sir M. b. STEWART presented petitions from Lanark, Gree. nock, and Port Glasgow, against the renewal of the East India Charter. Mr. KING presented a petition from the county of Cor r k ia rinst any increase of taxation in the stamps, or otherwise, in Ie Sir MARCUS SOMERVILLE presented a petition from S;rreer, Meath, against the tithe system. Mr. JEPHSON presented a petition from Buttevant, county of Cork, against the Vestry Act. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the ship owners of Perth, praying that the Bill for the improvement of the Perth Navigation might not pees into a law without some of their body being ap. pointed of the Commissioners. Mr. It. COLBURN presented a petition hom St. George's, Hanover.square, against the Irish and Scotch poor removal bill.— Ordered to lie on the table. SIR JoNAU BARRINGTON. Lord F. L. GOWER presented the report of the committee, appointed to draw up an address to his Majesty, on the resolutions agreed to on Saturday last, respecting Sir J. Berriegton, mean. mending his Majesty to remove the said J. Barrington hem she Judgeship of the Admiralty Court of Ireland. Mr. 1). W. HARVEY contended, that those who condemned Sir J. Barrington without reading the evidence, would hare send unjus:l l : and added, that Mr. Lamb, when Secretary, had Ward the e to retire without any inquiry. Lord .L. GOWER observed, that as to the evidence, the case against Sir J. Barrington had been fully proved. Mr. O'CONNELL compessionated the situation of Sir Jonah Barrington. Motion agreed to, and address adopted. Lord F. L. Gowen was then appointed to request a conference with the Lords on matters of high legal importance. TIM MIN atAXUAL. Mr. D. W. HARVEY wished to know how the sign manual us to be afixed by the person to be appointed to sign for his Ma lirß. PEEL said the honourable member seemed wholly to mistake the purport of the Message. It was not to 'print a -ftt.y, but to provide for the inconvenience which his Ma jesty hlt at having, during indisposition, to affix the sign manual. Ills Majesty, he bad the great pleasure of statin g, _ was as competent as eves be was in his life to exercise his own dis cretion ; and therefore no Minister would presume to pro say measure that should at all interfere with the Royal dims- It was never contemplated that any matters should be signed had not first been submitted to the Royal consideration ; and be repeated, his Majesty was as well as ever he was to exercise his Own consideration and reilection.—{Chsers.) The conversation here dropped. • Mr. L. KWIC then presented a petition from the clergy of Lei cester, against Si proposed grant to the college of ltayneoth.— Redden ordered to be "printed. Mr. D. W. RARVIY then pe td a petition from Sir Jonah Remington, playing for judicial iegidry into his case.—Ordered to he plated. ' Sir J. BRIDGES presented a petition from Coleraine against any increase of taxation in Ireland; alto one horn Coleraine, against the duty on coals. - - CONFERENCE OX THE XIMAGE. Lord F. GOWER and other members were ap pointed to draw up the address and manage the conference on his Majesty's message, presented yesterday. The conference then left the House to ge to the House of Lords. Lord F. L. GOWER (the commons members for managing the conference having retur ne d) stated that they had communicated the address to their lordships, and had left with them a copy thereof. DUTY OS LtAD. Sir J. GRAHAM presented a petition, signed by several thou sand persons complaining of distress, and particularly of the mea sures for the regulation of commetee of 1825. They particularly complained of the fall in the price of the lead, it was 50 per cent. and the distress of that trade was increased by the discovery of Sp lAA mines. The petitioners asked for an increased protecting duty. The present duty was 12 per cent. while copper was 28 per cent. Tin also was much higher than that on lead. The peti tionen were prepared to prove that the one on the Et OA mines was of a superior quality to that of the Sw,nish ranee. Besides, there was hardly any product which called forth so much manual labour and so little machinery. The petitioners ahm argued that the corn was protected to between 20 and 90 per cent. w: n le lead was protected only to the extent of 12 per cent. They, therefore, con tended that they were entitled to increased protection. Ile had only done his duty in representing the opinions of his constituents who were amongst the petitioners; and he trusted that the case would meet the attention of the house. The petition was from the Lead Miners of Annandale and Holston, in Northumberland. Mr. LIDDELL supported the prayer of the petition. Mr. HERRIES said it was unnecessary to discuss the petition, 'because, at the present moment, the whole of the subject was under the consideration of ministers. A firs a few words from Mr. WARBURTON and Mr. Husztssow, Lord MILTON said, that the taxes on corn, amounting as tht7 did to fifty per cent. on that article, was the principal evil which pressed upon the labourers of every description throughout the country. Lord WILLIAM POW LETT complained that lead had at all times been less protected than any other article. Copper was pro tected nearly 100 per cent. while lead had only a protecting duty of 15 per cent. Mr. BARING said that he thought no case of peculiar hardship had been made out on the part of the lead minets of this country, or at least no case that those gentlemen who supported the petition could shew, admitted of any remedy. (hear.) The lead miner had already a monopoly in this country, and if the Spanish miner could undersell him abroad, he did not see how the government could enable the British lead miner to compete with him. (hear.) Mr. HUME said, if one interest was to be protected, it would be an Injustice not to protect others. It was necessary that our manu factures must find a market abroad, or they must fall off, and a market abroad could not be found unless the addition of 30 per cent. to the price of food were abated. The great evil to the mama. facturers was the corn laws, which, while they disabled them from entering into foreign competition, recoiled also upon the land. holders, by flinging thousands as a burthen on the land, who would be otherwise enabled to support themselves. The only relief that could be given to the lead miners was, that of taking off the corn laws. Mr. P. THOMPSON said it was impossible to grant the prayer of the petitioners by giving a protecting duty, which could not in any way conduce to the relief of the petitioners themselves. Great milt. chief had been entailed on ti'e country by consenting to the repre sentation of the lead-miners three years ago. At that time the duty was raised from 10s. per ton to 245. and the year prior to the rise of duty 4,670 tons of ore were imported into this country to be smelted, after which they were again exported, but giving employment to a great extent to the people of this country. Subsequent to the rise, however, only eleven tons were imported in one year ; thus showing how dangerous it was to attend to the representations of interested and ignorant individuals. He trusted, therefore, the right hon. gentleman would not pay too much attention to such r‘presen•a does, and when he came forward with his new scale of duties, that he would reduce this duty to its former amount of 10s. Sir J. GRAHAM said that the term ignorant could not be justly applied to the petitioners on the present occasion. Mr. P. THOMPSON explained. The petition was then ordered to be printed. Mr. O'CONNt.LL presented a petition from the inbabitans of Cork, complaining of the abuses carried on by the corporation of that city. If he had the honour of sitting another session in that house he should bring in a bill to remedy the evil. 111 r. HUBIE supported the prayer of the petition, and said the first subjects of reform ought to be the corporadons of the United King&m. Mr. O'CONNELL presented five petitions against the vestry act, from several paddies in the county of Cork. Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition from the British So ciety for Co-operative Knowledge, meeting at the Mechanics' In stitute in London, praying for reform, and complaining of the won raSe t given to machinery in preference to manual labour. 7. O'CONNELL moved for returns relative to duties on spirits in Ireland. Mr. HENRY GRATTAN presented a petition front a person named William Carpenter, praying that his cue might be taken into conelderaden. Mr. HUMS presented a petition from the first co-operative trading society of London in favour of Mr. Owen's pplan, and pray ing that the subject might be taken into consideration. The boo. member said, he could not agree that the plan of Mr. Owen was so advantageous as the petitioners seemed to think. NOVA AND HALF PEA CENT. DUTIES ON SUGARS. Mr. HUME moved for an account of the amount of the quantity of sugar admitted in 1828 in discharge of the four and half per cent. duties, and the amount that it would bays come to had the whole duties been paid..—Agreed to. DRAMATIC 'JCR IfC CIL Mr. LENNARD said, be rose for the purpose of proposing the repeal of the third and fourth clauses of the act of the 10th George 11. c. 28, which empowers the Lord Chamber. lain to prohibit the acting of any new play or entertainment on the stage. He should not detain the house by going into any examination of the authority 'of the Lad Chamberlain, and he wies willing to admit that he often exercised that authority beneficially for the public, though, perhaps, still oftener detrimen tally. The power which was thus given,waa such as even diaries did not possess. It was grossly unconstitutional, and though, when first brought in by Sir Rt. Walpole, it had passed with as little dis cussion as a common Turnpike-road bill,yet it was a serious blow not only at the liberty of the press, but also at the literature of the country. There was a fee always exacted by the Lord Chamberlain, not ally on every new play, but on every alteration of an old one even if such an alteration extended to but a single sentence; that ' fee was 21.25. but the fee was comparatively of trifling importance, compared with the principles involved in the measure. The pa nidty was loss of licence for any alteration; and in strictness, if a song were added, or if a clown called out " roast beef," as had been once the ease, and such expression not being in the part, it would amount to a forfeiture of the licence. If construed strictly there could be no doubt but that the great theatres forfeited their licences at least forty or fifty times in a season. Another objec. tion was, that the Lord Chamberlain exercised this enormons power by deputy. lie would ask if any benefit could be derived under this law, which could render its retention desirable, particulerly when the ordinary laws of the country were amply su thci ent to preserve the morality of the stage ? He would pro pose that the Lord Chamberlain should have the power &preventing the repetition of any piece which might be deemed improper. He could state one play by Mr. thy, which was prohibited from paths! ma tires. Another, that of Edward and Eleanor, by Thompson, was " suppressed because be had given offence by publishing alumni called Liberty," which contained sentiments of freedom. He held also a correspondence with Mr. Coleman, part of which he would quote. (Hear.) In letters addressed to Mr. Arnold, and other managers, he had recommended the most frivolous altera tions. In one play was the character of Captain Raked', a sol dier and a man of fashion, but in reality a swindler and • coward. Mr. Coleman directs this to be altered, as an unjust reflection upon the upper chases of society— (Hear.) In another instance, be ob jected to lovers talking of their ladles as angels, and in another he objects to the expression, "Such an angel, by Heaven 1" and warns the manager to have no such expression on the stage— (Hear, bear.) He also objected to the words " Merciful powers," and said, if it did not mean something else than the powers of Heaven, it had better be omitted. He also objected to a sou taus uttered by a servant, " My mistress's dressing-case is joined In wedlock to my master's arm chair."—(Great laughter.) He next takes the king under his protection, and where the sentence occurs, " All the fatigues, cares, and tediousness of roys a lt sd i he directs to omit the word tediousness.--(Roare of laughter. ie also directs in one place, where the words Gam, "payers a to Heaven," that, in every place where they sew, " Drama" must be substituted for Heaven, This was a pretty jltedes, which he thought the house would think unworthy of hew andmitmeneam ie He was aware that this was orgasm/am ad hembews, hot mill it showed the edits was likely to be abused, and to be made the &moment of great vexation.—(Hear.)—The only eppeddee he could contemplate was upon the peeled that the alteradon might be injurious to the minor theatres. These theatres mood le this position t they acted pieces witch they were net sodded meet, and thus exposed themselves to pesesseden ; but as the peismem were also compelled to expose themselves madmeally ta a ilmiklatre of licence , a compromise was speed to that noidaradasdi to the other. This was an excellent armee* Ur =sr theatres, but it was no argument whatever In the law ash now stood.—(aser.) The Hon. limber coaclejed by owing for leave to bring in the Bill. Ur. 0. LAMB was sorry that the ben. awake Amid have beought this measure fat ward at so late a period of the session, when there was still a pressure of business of more importance to be trans acted. Tho hon. member was mis-informed when he was told that any compromise had taken place between the patent and minor theatres. The patent theatres had no wish to remove the censorship the honourable member complained of, for its chains sat very lightly upon them. The only penalty indicted by the act was for =ng a drama without the approval, or contrary to the of the licensing officer. Some censorship of the stage shoal be the hands of the Lord Chamberlain from the earliest times, sti he thought it was necessary. Lord Chesterfield had predicted Ida if the act should pass, the stage would become a tool of the ONO for political purposes ; but the fact was, that since the passing of the act, the stage, which before that time was constantly used for party purposes, had never been so used. He thought there was a great difference between stage representations and publications in pamphlets and newspapers, which might be answered the next day. He thought the house should pause before they repealed an act which had existed many years without injury to public liberty.— (Hear, hear Sir It. P EL said he agreed in many particulars with the obser. 'otiose of the lion. gentleman who spoke last. The hon. gentleman who made the motion, said, the good taste of the public would be a owiladent security against improper representations on the stage. He had as such confidence in the good taste of the public. He be amed wiry objectionable representations might attract large audi ism, owl be very profitable. He remembered when a criminal was sake a charge of murder, that all the circumstances of that minder were represented on the stage ; and also that when the sovereign of the country was Buffeting under a grievous calamity, the unhappy circumstances of that calamity were made the subject of dramatic representation on the stage. The honourable gentleman who made the motion, rested bin ease chiefly on the speech of Lord Chesterfield ; but be forgot one part of the speech in which Lord Chesterfield condemned bringing on such tuo. non at a late period of the session. And It was • singular coinci dence that Lord Chesterfield's speech was made on the 245th of May. .-(A great laugh.) Lord Chesterfield's speech was a series of pes phecies of the consequences of passing the act, every one of which had been falsified Lord Chesterfield had predicted that the stage would become a tool in the hands of government after the passing of the act. There never was • time when the stage was so dee from party politics. Lord Chesterfield had predicted that it would be the destruction of wit. He believed all would mit that prophecy was falsified. Lord Chesterfield said, if a play was Interdicted from representation, it would certainly be published, and It would be so universally :cid that the danger, if there was danger,would be greatly increased. He believed they all knew that prophecy was falsified. lie did not mean to defend Mr. Coleman's taste, but the question was not whether Mr. Coleman's taste was good ; but was not the stage in as good a state as could reasonably be expected ? The hon. gent. by proposing that dramas should be sub mitted to a Committee of Magistrates admitted the necessity of some censorship; and would be submit the work of any unfortunate author to the vote of &majority of irresponsible magistrates ? Was it not better to leave it to a single responsible individual P It was become the custom to introduce, night after night, motions for re pealing existing laws. He thought the house should pause before they indulged a propensity to repeal laws which were not proved to be productive of any inconvenience in practice.—(Hear. hear.) Mr. O'CONNA.LL said it was impossible to know how much the public was injured by the censorship. Who could say how many authors of genius had refused to submit their productions to the censorship of such a person as Mr. Coleman ? Mr. LENNARD replied, after which the motion was negatived, without a division. SEER SILL. Mr. BRANSTON asked on what day the next discussion on the Beer Bill would take place ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was Im possible for him at present to name a day: he was negotiating to procure a day for the purpose, of which due notice should be given. CANADA. Mr. LABOUCHERE said he felt how incompetent he was to do justice to the great question which he had undertaken to bring un der the notice of the house. But he hoped the consideration of the feebleness of the advocate would secure an increased attention on the pert of the house to the important subject he was about to lay be lies it. He would refer the house to the publication of Mr. Cam- Wiese. Report to the United States, to show the rut importance of the Cahadas to this country. He was confident that every thing that could be done by the present Governor of the Canada to maintain a good feeling between them and the mother country bad been done. It was now two years since a committee of theHoose of Commons had recommended new measures towards the Camila of the utmost importance to their welfare, and as he could see ands any assurance that their recommendation would be acted Imes, and as he knew that in consequence of the delay a growing spirit of discontent was taking place in the Canada, be thought it his duty to bring the subject before the house, that the hews might accelerate the adoption of the recommendation of the awn. mittee, and give assurance to the people of Canada, that their just complaints were not disregarded. - (Hear.) That committee bad recommended a complete alteration in the constitution of the Legislative Council of tiada, which was the Aristocratic House of Assembly. When the Canada Committee examined the Con stitution of this body, they found that in Lower Canada, out of 117 members 18 were placemen, and only 9 native Canadians ; and they found that in Upper Canada, out of 18 members, there were 12 placemen. It was unoeeessary to say that these bodies were constantly acting in unison with the executive Govern. meat, which, unhappily was constantly opposed to the in. WNW and feelings of ' the people. All the highly respect able witnesses examined by the committee, stated their opinion that if the legislative councils were made independent that would be an end of the disputes between the executive and the house of repre sentatives. There was ra time that injurious distinctions existed between the Preach and English Canadians ; but these distinctions were not now felt. The present system of the administration of jus. tics deserved the serious consideration of the bouse.—(Hear, bear.) The judges held their commissions at the pleasure of the crown. That was one of the objections taken by Mr. Pen to Mr. Pitt's bill, and Lord Grenville admitted that it shall be continued but for a short time. He would not presume to pee' pose any thing that had not been recommended by the committee of the house. The judges' salaries depended on an annual vote of the House of Assembly, which was most objectionable. The fact was notorious, that they were political patinas. They were members of the Executive Council, and also of the Legislative Council. It was impossible, in their circumstances, that they should not become poLdeal partisans. He would state one instance of the prac tical effect of this system in the Court of Quebec, the Chief Jus tice of which was a member of the Executive Council and a chairman of the legislative council, and his son was the sheriff, paid by the government. There was a number of prosecutions in that mart for libels against the government, and the feeling was universal, that not one of the defendants had the least chance of a fair trial. He was always of opinion, that the only means of governing Ca. nada well was to give them the means of administering equal jus tice amongst themselves.—The committee had strongly recommended that the legislative council should be made independent of the crown, and that the judges should 'not hold sets in the arseudve council. He was unwilling to put the question on any etherves& than that of justice; but he would mention that the house would soon , be celled on to vote 200,0001. for military works for the defence of Canada, and be would implore them not to neglect the cheap de. fence of the people's love, which could be We-many secured by doing justice to the Canadian , . The hon. gentleman essdstied by moving, that ft was expedient that thelegislative councils of the , Canada should be rendered inthpendent ! ie executive gems. meat, and that the judges should not be members of the executive council.—.(Great cheers.) Lord 13ANDON supported the resolutions, as founded inj:t a st a t s , and necessary to the security of the connection between the and this country. Sir GEORGE MURRAY said the hon. gentleman had ors. ducted the canoe he bad undertakes with great ability and modem. Lion. Redid nst abject lathe pdadple of the resolutions t hut the, implied that gameneasnt bad net nisi on the recommendation of the Canada memehass. If the bless would attend to the papers he had laid balms the home, they wadi bed that every recommends. don of the cemmittee had bum esseththoded to the attention of the Gamest d Cam& He had received the Governor's answer last ateek sad his opinion was entirely in accordance with the sitcom. chidestithemmunittee. The asedeatises to the Legislative Omen were for life, and it was the desmenbethed Governesses, as vammtin scoured, sot to appoint any jettison poems bolding aim het m ad he strict conformity to the reeememe of she aseendt. be. (Um) The dl>seslty of sepplybg the mistsmado path of the 141111Outtiw of Canada was very senddonals, bat was esesteady hemming. He was hippy to jele the heesemble gentheise la his pmegyeic of the proem Gomm of Canada. It was * advantage to have a fiethseer Comb so able and so err as Sir Jibes ICampt.— (Hest, bers.)—lt was impassible to object to the passel principle of the ladependisass of Judges ; but the Colo nies formed an exception to the gem& tale; it was so diseslt to be certain how Judges might asst whoa suit to a distant colony.— lie thought there was se greatthown is leaving the power el re. moral with the Crows, ae as vainistee would advise the removal der Judge, but oa the strongest wide grounds.—{ Hear, hut& He . could setadmit that the Lopilmies Council was who mad by the Government of Cassia; he then was a abs d the ethaell lest year, in which them was an equal number opine i=sment manure. The esedatioo would have the list of ing the council, which it was not is the power of the Go. vernment to change, but by degrees ae vacancies occurred. He shad& therefore move the previous question. Lord HOWICK could not agree with the right boo. Secretary, that the beam bi agreeing to the resolutions mat an imputation on Govemassat. Me would say that the spirit et the right haw Imo louse's dimpatehes to Comb did Was peat honour but be dough' there was too much delay, and the people of Canada were naturally dissatisfied. if the Judges of Canada could not at once be nmocrd from the legislative council they might from the executive council where their presence was mat objectionable. Mr. W. HORTON thought that the conduct of government showed their sincerity in professing • determination to act on th e recommendation of the committee, and fully entitled them to the confidence of the house, and he should be sorry to see the resolu. Lions ptesstd to a division. Lord ALTHORP said he highly valued the connee ion with the Canadas, and thought the best way to preserve it wa s to give the people a perfectly free constitution. That they mi g h t have all the advantage of governing themselves, and of a coo. nection with this country.—(Hear, (tear, hear.) The statements of the right honourable secretary were most satisfactory ; b u t h e thought the Canadas had a right to the security which a resolution of that house could give. The resolutions now proposed were t o perfect accordance with the opinions and feelings of the peopl e co Canada. The resolution had his most hearty support. Mr. hIAURICE FITZGERALD lamented that the subjec t of colonial legislation should not have been carried on in • better spirit of amity and goodwill. He concurred with his noble friend who spoke last, that no discussion on this side of the water was likely to pacify Canasta. He could not think that th ere was such differences between the government of that country so d the people, likely to induce the British government to adopt any measure from an unworthy motive. He believed the p eop l e of Canada were firmly attached to this country, and should be happy to see a free legislature established there, which would be the bea t means of ensuring prosperity. He thought the resolutions unne. cessary, although he agreed with them on an abstract principl e . Mr. E. DEN ISON said, the only objection that the Secretary of State for the Colonial Department had, was as to the time, and not to the resolutions themselves, If the legislative email was to be left as it now was, no conciliation could take place. It was now a mere tool in the hands of government. The judges ought to be se. parated from all political transactions, and also from seats in the council. He holiest justice would be done to Canada. Sir GEORGE MURRAY said a few words in explanation. Mr. M. FITZGERALD had given full credit to ministers, that all they had done was in the spirit of pacification—(Hear.) Mr. CHARLES GRANT was happy to hear that we was; not longer to have one constitution at home another far the colonies. The time had arrived when it would no longe r be said, that the inhabitants of the colonies were not capabl e of enjoying the blessings of a free institution. He hailed with gratitude the measures that had been adopted in Canada.... And he rejoiced to hear from the sight hon. secretary the plan of po. licy It was intended in future to adopt towards Canada. As it re. garded himself personally, he was quite satisfied, and he hoped the plan contained in the declaration of the tight hon. gentleman, would be followed by all succeeding governments. Ii the resolutions Ilrl% withdrawn he should not regret it. Mr. STUART WORTLEY said, the only question before the House was, whether or not it was necessary to adopt the re. solutions. He thought it was not, particularly as they were cal. misted to censure the Government and the Legislative Council of Canada. Mr. HUM E rose amidst loud cries of question. He thought it would be of service to press the motion to a division, as it would show the people of Canada that there was • party in that House that felt for their condition. He knew the eyes of the people of Canada were directed to the proceedings of Parliament.— Government ought to give to the colonies the whole disposal of their revenue nothing short of this would satisfy them. His Majesty's Government, fos the last two years had done nothing for Canada.— (Question.). — They treated the Assembly of Upper Canada as if they were not to be considered as entitled to the claim of indepeod. ence. The right hon. gem. promised fair : he wished he would carry those promises into execution.—(Load cries of " Question. question ! withdraw, withdraw !") Lord MILTON was surprised at the doctrine laid down by hie right hon. friend; and he thought the system of Government in try. ing to obtain an influence in the legislative council highly census. able. He did not wish to hold up to the people of Canada that there was a party in that house that felt for their interests and wel. fare, but that there was • principle in Parliament by which all were actuated, and which was exercised on their behalf and interest. Sir ROBERT PEEL could not let this subject pass without a few observations. It bad been complained of that the Judges of Ceosda were not independent. Now, as regarded that ques. ties oath depended upon the inducements held out to individuals taking that othce ; it depended much upon the population a 1 OM Ass the had jurisdiction, and of the emoluments of the Alm In i the salary of a Judge was only 9001. per year, and he t under all the circumstances if they were ands independent of the Crown it would be the means of eosturdng the pure and impartial administration of justice.— He thought his hon. friend, in bringing forward his resolutions, had meted hataly towards the Secretary for the Colonies, who had filled up the hat three nannies in strict accordance with the 110:001. amediden el the aninittee that investigated into the subect. He mend the Haw wasid not adopt the resolutions. lie wished to ass the sissies hal wean is the mother country, which mull only be by pining the good will of the ie. habitants. lie. LABOUCHERE replied, en the grounds that be had stated. be felt called upon to take the noes of the house. The house then divided, when there appeared. For the Resolution Against it . . Majority in favour of the original question........ 69 TOBACCO DUTY. Mr. CHARLES CALVEit mood that a petition respecting the duties on tobacco which he had presented should be reared to a select committee. The eiibibELLOß of the EXCHEQUER opposed it. If the petition was referred to a committee, be was confident the pen. tioners would not be benefited, he should therefore oppose such a COMM _ . - 111 tr a few words from Mr. C. CALVZRT, strangers were ordered to withdraw. The motion, however, was nega t ived without a division. Sir R. PEEL moved that the Report on the Forgeries Bill be rt. calved. Be trusted that this motion would be acquiesced in, with. out observation; but on the understanding that any discussion on is miet p r t e place on the third reading. agreed to, and bill ordered to be read a third time c: - . Friday. Mr. RICE moved that the Galway Franchise Bill be read a third time. Mr. DALY moved that the bill be read a third time this day six moothls. Mr. TRANT opposed the bill, because, as it was framed, it would give a preponderating influence to the Roman Catholics in Galway. Mr. NORTH also opposed the bill, and on the like ground. The house divided on the question. The numbers were— For the Bill.. 77 Against It Majority for the Bi11. The result was received with loud cheering. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER postponed the Sale of Beer Bill till Thursday next, amidst some laughter at the rltepostponement of the Bill. remaining orders having been disposed of, the house ad• journed at a Quarter to Two o'Clock. We have good reason for stating that there is no foun dation whatever, beyond some partial indisposition, for the rumours which have been of late so industriously circulated with respect to a certain Illustrious Individual, whom the precarious condition of our present Sovereign has rendered an object of the liveliest national concern. The utmost decorum and discretion have governed his conduct ; he has had more than one conference with his Royal Brother, the result of which has been alike ho nourable and agreeable to both parties ; and the very delicate and confidential communications which the Royal Sufferer has entrusted to the ear of his Brother and presumptive Successor, have been received with a good feeling and good sense in the highest degree con solatory to the Illustrious Sufferer. It may be that equal discretion has not characterised the language and behaviour of certain persons, connected by ties, however close, unknown to the law, with the Prince, and that pretensions, founded on precedents drawn from the worst periods of the British Annals, may have been somewhat rashly sod presumptuously 10- vsnced ; but they have met with no countenance; and if they are not warned in time, they may have cause to regret their imprudence Hampton Court is spoken of as the probable residence of the future Sovereigs: and a provisional Regency as one of the earliest mss• surss of a new reign; but this last, with regard to do tender years of the then Heiress Presumptive—not assuredly with reference to any thing in the health, mental or physical, of the expectant Sovereign. It is rumoured that a surveyor has already visited Hampton Court with a view to the renovation and enlargement of the Palace.—Chronicle.