Star. — London, England, 1829-04-11 00:00:00

I w ali ng t o repeal the laws affecting Roman Catbo • tics if thq made the same derivations which they were now willing to make. He could not [talkie ,that h was is t he spirit of that doctrine of peace and good will to mankind, which the Renames preached on earth, acrimosionsly to oppose a measure calculated IV lead to peace and good will, and to prevent the evils of a civil war. The Earl of ELDON assured the Right Reverend Prelate, that if any thing he had said had given him ra i n , he regretted it very much. Indeed, if he thought he had dime so; the reflection wield , give hlm even more pain than the Right Rev. Prelate himself could have experienced. With regard to the opinion of Locke, he world ask the Right Rev. Prelate to read that great mans work on toleration over again; and when be bad done so,let him declare whether Locke did not expressly say, that the principles of the Roman Catholics were Inch as rendered them unfit for toleration? The Bishop of NORWICH—I admit that it it so. But if the Noble and Learned Lord would cart filly ' *sad the whole passage, be would find that the sentimeat expressed by Locke fully justified the opinion which I have stated. Locke founded his argument on the alle gation that the Roman Catholics would not keep faith with heretics ; and I ask whether, if be were now alive, be %would begoided by such an exploded doctrine? The Earl of RLDON—I have over amid over again said to this Moose, and I maintain it, that Mr. Lucie held that the opinions of the Roma* Catholics were not to be tolerated. The Bishop of NOR WICH—Yes, sty Lords, the °Riotous which they held at that pertud. The Duke of ATHOL said, that though as zealous a member of the Church of England as any Noble Lord in that Hour, he should support this measure. When he saw so much firmness, so mach activity, and so tnueblinion, in the present Government, he was deter mined to stand by them. The great majority of those who tepresented the interests of Scotland in that and in the otter House Of Parliament were in favour if the Bill., The opposition to it in that country was, he had no doubc,oecasioned by misrepresentation. The best elite. Finn by which to judge of the wishes of thepeople of Scotland was the opinion expressed by their Representa tives in Parliament. At his age he could not expect to live to see the good eft' cis of the Bill, but there were many cf their Lordships who should; and he felt con fident that many who now opposed the measure would ere long look back to their opposition with feelings very differet t horn those they now entertained. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The Ent of ABINGDON said he considered the Bill au infringement of the Constitution. He did not wish to say any thing disrespictful of Roman Ca. (holies. There wete many of them for s bons heenter tained great respect and esteem, but he had a public duty to discharge, with which he could not allow any private feelings to interfete. Fur the Noble Duke at 'the head of his Majesty's Government, for the consum mate skill' and talent with which be had served the' country, he felt the deepest gratitude, but hecould not go along with him io this measure. For twenty years be bad supported the Government, but had such a measure as this been proposed at an earlier period, the country could not possibly have gone sac cessions; through the struggle in which it was engaged. He should wish to know bow the Noble Duke would act if the Pope sent over his troops here to drive the Pusestant Bishops from their seats in that House? It %soul. be very strange if the Nsible Duke, «ho was making Such rapid strides in advancing Popery t.. power, should at last end his days in a Popi b cage. He should not wonder if the Bill had the effect of se parating the Church from the State. and the Monarch from his people. Mader the present system they had enjoyed she twatest ftaedomwf may canary upon earth. they bad enjoyed blowiest of a rational religion. of a wise and rational policy, and he was unwilling to con-' sent to any chaoge'bj which bethought such blessings could be endangered. Lad MII7DLETON said he bad always opposed measures of this kind; and as he was determii.ed to support the third reading of the Bill, he hoped their Lordships would permit bias shortly to state the sea sons by which he was influenced. He must candidly coulees that he had been convinced by the arguments he heard in support of the Bill. He did sat care whe ther he incurred the censure of one side or the other. He should give as conscientious and as independent a vote as any man in that House. He yielded to , no man in independence. Fot the Lord Lieutenant of the county of th.ttinglians (the Duke of Newcastle) be entertained the highe-t respect; but upon this question he could not concur in his sentiments. He must say. however, that he was not quite satisfied with the securitea pro vided in the Bill. The Duke of NEWCASTLE said, he wished to say a few words on the third :fading of this Bill. His opioion, on it remained unchanged. After all that bad been said, he felt still convinced that it was utterly in consistent with the principles of the C..nstitution, and w•th the secutity of the Protestant institutions of this , country. Was it to be supposed that any men who ve. vended the Constittri o u could have come down to the j House and j pioposed a measure of this nature grounded solely stron distusbances in lieland, and the ennw-1 qu• nces to which they might ultimately lead? Whet,' once peruses who roust. horn tie vet, name of things, be hoolle to the Protestant religion,_ mete in.roduced into year and the other H o use of Parliament—when OnCt they o ele sendeied eligible to the highest offices of State, these was an end to a Pr( testant Parliament and a Protestant Govetunient. He misted their Lord• ,n.p. would pardon bias for again trespassing °kitten attenti is, but he felt strongly on the question. He must again repeat, that Ministers had deceived the country. Tile EAt I co ItODEN said he could not content him self with giving a silent vase upon this . questibn—the mist imimrtant that could be broucht before 'Paha n.ent. For 18 years, dining which he oat in•that and ii e other House of P•rliareeist, he had invariably op posed utast were ceded she Catholic - Clair'''. It bad been (wet his opinion that no effectual 'cooky could' po,sihly be given to the Priitettant Church and Prntet twit Consijeut.on but by the : eggs:ion of Catholi.s from' cavil poet". With: this opinion. he came to the moo. sidera ion of the question, when at the opening of the 4eation it was reeouitnendedto, the attention Was lianserif in the Si rech from the Pursue. tie then etidenvoated divest litinasli sf All former•feeliosss all- former P"..1 6 E 4 dices, and to see whether he could discover any gr. nods for attains his opinions. Alter such delibers, lion, and inch inqunies. he was, (101, free to confess that be saran) reason tochanse any of his foamier opinion& Nothing .which he bad ystrheard eonvinced him that these would be less danger now in concession than they? was .14 bealast the subject was pader tbe j cqnsisieratima Of their loadships. tie diftiergd entirely from &Owl who thought that theceametpeacaof the measure maid be to give peace to Ireland. A momentary tpilte . might be produced by it, bet it could not deprive the &MINI Catholic! Priv. at:power "Isiah abet elow-sololed and continued to cousin. He beliffeettahat,•wborciedi riatifitoseld-have the (bet of • teemed% the SUlign' bee of _ Protestants has inland. -No .penee - could passe& hive that the tamean. Cethelies of the pee. , bent d did -sot -tittedais the lase objects aid the a same opinions as they did is 1668, Ha liead sough in Ireland co know that the measure not satisfy the Roma Catholics. He was - told so bp themselves. They declared so openly and maoftillyr and he honoured them foe it. It was well and truly observed by a Noble Lord opposite in the cosreetifshie discussion, that there were other Catholic questiensime. 'hind this; and be bad no doubt that the revenues ei. Protestant Church of lieland was the neat question they weuld hive to consider.. He was well aware that the Church Establishment if Ireland and of England too, were human institutions; and that, like all human iasti. unions, they were liable to error and to change; be must, however. express his regret at the line of observe. 'ion pursued by some °Meals htßev.Bench, who denied that Papists were idolators, and contended that these was very little difference bitweeo the Protestant and the Catholic religion. He expected very different seotinseets from the Right Rcv. Bench. He read in history that some churches when raised in wealth and power bad forgotten *heir first love. He hoped that was not the cue in this instance. After all the consideration ha could give this question, the conclusion to which he came was, that ao security could be effectual but eaclusion• It they once determined to break down the existing ban iers, the doors of the Constitution could not be thrown too widely open. To tbe Noble Duke at the bead of the Gb- velemen4 aada Right Hon. Friend of his Mr. Peel) in the mho House of Pridla menf t he g a ve credit for the goodness of their intention,. It any thing could reconcile him to the Bill, it was that it contained no recognition of the Roman Catholic Clergy, or any pecuniary-provision tor them. He tru,ted that a British Parliament would never consent to pay a body of men for teaching a doc trine which was declared to be idolatrous and supersti tious. Hecould not sit down wi.hout congratulating the Noble Lords opposite on the victory they had gained. Oss this subject he had always opposed their views.— lit hi:moored thrm for their perseverance, nor was he disposed to pluck one laurel from their brow. But Atom' all, his praises were due to a Noble Earl opposite (Grey) for his consistency in • support of this question at a time when he aims WI almost single upon the benches opposite. That Noble Earl, in allusion to his advancing life, had said. in the Miroe of a former discussion, non eadem itas, won eadas *sou, but he trusted that many years were yet in reserve for him to benefit the country by his talents, his integrity, and his virtues. He would now conclude by protest ing against this measure as a sacri fi ce old* Protestant Commotion in Church and &ate, to a temporary con venience —(Hear). The Bishop of LICHFIELD contended that the Bill might be passed without any danger to the Established Church. The Earl of FALMOUTH lose and said, that he bad no intention of attempting to follow the Right Reverend "Prelate throughout the whole of his argu ments. But he could not refrain from remarking, on this concluding stage of the Bill, on the rapidity with which it had been pressed forward. It bad now been in the House only nine days, a period rhorter than had on any tonna occasion been allowed to intervene before the second reading. -In nine days they bad completed the destruction of a work, the cre ation of which had engaged the talents and exertions; for a protracted period.of the greatest men this country had ever known. This measure was more denuded f securities than any for the same purpose which had ever been offered to Parliament. And what was the state of the country ? Let them look at their debt —let them look at the state of their agriculture, iii.au taciures, and commerce—and let them then ask them selves if. in the complicated and precirious situation in which they stood, they could ietthotit danger impair the attachment of a large proportion of the Remised people of the empire to the instnutions of their country ? - One argument which had been considered particularly c'tsgent,and eh quent he coul4:not but notice.- It bad been said That the Protestant 'and Catholic soldiers lived. in the same tent, fought in the same trenches, and laid their heads in the same grave, and therefore the inle. recce he supposed was, that the Catholic was as good as die Protestant religion, and its professors equally quali fied fur the highest political p Aver. By the same argu• ment he would prove just the same thing with respect to Mahonsedans and Hindoos. The sense of this Pro. tenant people was decidedly opposed to the measure, and the proof of this was, that the Petitions to that House were against it in the proportion of twenty to one. There was much in the character and achieve ments of the-Noble Duke which must excite the aJazi• ration of every man in the world; but he for one did not envy the Mlle Duke his present triumph, and he had no doubt that ere long the Noble Duke would him self deeply lament ir. The Duke of CUMBERLAND said, he would not refrain, attet the decided pair which he had taken upon this subject, on . previous occasions, from expressing his strict cuufdrmity to that siniment which he then had advocated. Although he bad heard much discussion on the subject, he had beard nothing which could ;n the slightest degree alter his opinion on the dangerous reodincy of the measute before their Lordships.— His opposition was not directed against the Catholics themselves; he had the honour to know many per sonally. and felt fur ninny of them very great esteem ; but he could not helpconceiving the change which war now meditated was one which he could look on in no other light than such a breach of the Protestaht Constitution as be could not possibly sanction with his supp , rt. At the same time 1u would confess, that although in the outset of this business he had acquainted the Noble Duke that be felt it incompatible with his duty to sup port this change in the Constitution, there were certain occurrences which had since taken place which evetr tenderOd him, more indisposed to the adoption of the Ismanere. Obi the whole he felt with regret that in this instances- he muss withdraw his support (rota the Go. 'vernasent of which the Noble Duke was the head. The Duke of SUSSEX bad not intended again to trouble their Loruships; but alter what had fallen from his Illestsioos Relative, he thought it his duty once more to record his approbation of the Bill. He thought his 'Majesty's Ministers had not received justice during these discussioes. and Noble Lords who had ever been Measben of aCabinet ought. to have known the respect due to-the secrets of a Cabinet. The very language of Magna Ch.eta, ANlO . verdieses, sregrroiesals , naafi *limos jeditiaes, demanded this measure, which was one of tardy justice to sheiloman Catholics. Tke .wreath of olive was now weaving, and was now nearly .completed, by which the laurel that now surrounded the temples of the Nuble Duke was to,be supplanted. The Bishop of BATH and WELLS contended that the tenets of the Catholic religion were totally aid ,diametrically oppoiite to the principles df that free Go mooniest which bad been happily established for ages ip this coning. la this, although he would not assume the ves . popeli to be the vow Des, yet he would contend "at t h e voice and wishes of the people were fairly to collected from their addresses and petitions to the tgislacure. The greater number of petitions, it had ea proved, were against the concession now meditated the Romeo Catholics, sad he felt himself authorised the dictates of the pure spirit of the Gospel, to re- IWO An eonemsion meditated by this Bill to the pro. ',fusers of tbst Abysm Catholic faith. Lord REDESDALE opposed the Bill no the ground that it was COnfriri to The eiristitlition, and incompa tible with the s a f et y of the Church of England, to ant I great political power . to ,the Roman Catholics. Jews the &good b:ought the religious establishments o f this country into a great degree of danger precisely by this swans, andehis was the great offence which, more than aay other, led to hit cipulsion. The establishment of the Catholic Church io Ireland was now sure to be at tempted; and it was the duty of the Government and people of Mast Britain, now more than ever, to exert Themselves jn supp ort f die Protestant Establishment in that country. He had resided in Ireland, and he had no doubt that the influence of the priests there was Ereater than in any othe r o f th e C at h o li c countr i es o f urope. The Marquis of LANSDOWN said that the argu ment founded upon the irreconcilable nature of the Roman Catholic and Protestant reigions, if pushed to its proper conclusioo. would lead to the opinion, not that Roman Catholics and Protestants could not sit in the same Parliament,. but that they could not lice in the same country. The speech of Dr.Drumgoole, to which reference had been made, was repudiated and con demned within twenty-four hours after it was delivered. by a solemn vote of the Roman Catholic Prelates in Ireland. When political power was granted to the lower and withheld from the higher classes of Catholics. an eloquent Member of the Irish Parliament had said that it Ireland 's as satisfied, the Constituti in was not satisfied. Now the Constitution was going to be satisfied. He trusted the distinctions Parlianient was attempting to efface would not be perpetuated by municipal reol -- tions or the social conduct of individuals, and that the reign of peace, harmony, and happiness in Ireland would now begin. From this moment he trusted the Protestant religion would have fair play in Ireland. I , gave him pleasure to see the Right Reverend Prelate. who (or thirty years had supported this question, now present in that House to witness the proud triumph of that cause in which he had made exertions and sacrifices fur so loots period. This was not the only authority in the Chinch in its favour. The late Bishop Heber had entertained. similar opinions. Li these opinions the Church. of Scotland, with Dr. Chalmers at its head. generally concurred. This Gentleman was an illustrious example oiviety and disinterestedness. For the bece&t of the. Church to which he belonged, he had refused one of the meat valuable pieces of pit-ferment in the power of his Majesty to offer in Scotland. Lord HOLLAND rose not to say one woad upon the question, but an incident had occurred in which he was personally intere.ted. The N ible and Learned Lord bad miseadentood what had fallen from him upon several occasions, and had described his observations as leading to the overthrow of the monarchy and asisto. cracy of this country. The protest he entered is the Journals last year was guided by the expressiith " purely civil and political authority." He was as much aft iend of the Protestant succession as any man in the House; but he maintained that the office of King was not merely civil and political—it was religious also;__ for the King was supreme head of the Church of England. He begged to know if the Noble and Learned Lord bad ever seen any thing in him to justify the asprrsiun, that he was designs' of destroying the Aristocracy and sub *kiting the Crown? If the Noble and Learned Lord were now Attorney General he should have felt himself in danger, but he could not really thank Oat the Noble and Learned Lord meant to impute such sentiment, to him. The Earl of ELDON said. that he had always es• perie.nced the utmost courtesy and kindness from the N9ble Lord who had just sat down, and he believed he might add, that he (Lord Eldo• ) made a similar I etorn tolls* Noble -Lord—(Hear from Lord Holland). Aft. r what .had now fallen the Noble Lord, he (Lori El don) would say, that the apprehens.ons which he• had expressed on a former occasion had been founded upon a mistake as ro what had been said by the Noble Lord in a former debate. He had not been present "Theo the expressions to- which he alluded were stated to have fallen from the Noble Lord. He derived his information on the subject from those channels of public information to which at was not rep-, lar to refer in that House; and he must acknowledge, alter what. had noir,fallen from the Noble L rd, that be (Lord Eldon) mast have laboured under a mistake as to the precise expressions which had been employed by the Noble Lord in the debate to which he had al luded. The Noble Marquis (Lansdown) had &tremor(' to refute *bat he (Lori Eldon) had stated respecting the ca.@ of Dr.Drumgoole, but the Noble 1.-rd hang not applied himself to the pastoral letter of Dr. Troy, to which be (Lord Eldon) had referred. and which es' re sly stated that be (the writer) looked for a It .nran Catholic- King and a Roman Catholic Le A islature. Nor had the Noble Lord at all alluded to the doubts which had bee,: expressed by . a Right Km Correspondent of the Noble puke opposite as to the authlri.y of his Majesty to confer an Archbishoprick upon a Protestant in lietand. The Noble Lord thereght better to apply himself to the facts concerning a Doctor of Physic than Doctors of Divinity, and to contradict his (Lord Eldon's) positions respecting Ore case if Dr. Di ursagoole, th a n to refute what he had stated regard ng the opinions expressed by the Roman Catholic Bishops is Ireland. The Noble and Learned Lqrd concluded by repealing the eaplanatios 'which he bad already gives, as to his misapprehens MI of the ex yessions which bad fallen from'the Noble li L•nd (Ho .. cl) on a former occasion, and sat dows amidst log r cries'of el Question, question." Tne Duke of WELLINGTON would detain their Loriships i 4 very few moments while he noticed some. , f the observations which hadfaltenirom Noble Loo d 6; and first *id respect to the Nobly and Learned Lord on the curd' bench. 'He had liiped he would have prepared hiMself to answer the legal arguments of his Noble find Learned Friend on the Woolsack, of an other Noblt Ind Learned Lord, an 4 of the Noble Earl opposite, rather than come down once more to accuse bins and hii 'Right Hon. Friend in another place of baying taken the country by surprise. But he distinctly denied tht hect-.-there had been no surprise. They had apprised the country of the intentions of Government at the earliest possible moment, by the King's Speech. and that was now two months ago. The numerous" `petitions presented by the Noble and Learned Lord; of 'which tbky bad heard so mach, and those pro se:ll4 by other Noble Noble Lords. amounting alto. sober to not less than ten thousand. were the strongest proof that there bad been no surprise. He rejoiced that these-petitions had been presented, although mast of them had been procured by giving oat to the cons ley that his Majesty's Ministers intended to introduce Popery. He rejoiced, nevertheless, that these Petitiona had been presented, as they *bowed the sound Protes tant feeling of the country. The Noble Lord also found fatale with the manner in which this Bill bad been car ried through the House. Bat he ventured to say that the House 'bed never sat longer upon any Bill; that a greater number of hours had never been devoted to any bill; end that never had any Bill been more fully tfis- cussed. He owned he tees ext eau% °net itAhreshOse.eown. .piece i Wore the HOlitiblyi. not fur the sake of he:nisi" : •the measure, of bons any apprehension that delay , wouli endanger it, but to put an end t o the agitation ' ; which prevailed, not in the country, w• e. e there was, • not% ithstanding what the Noble and Learned Lord said, really no agitation at all, but in this to* n, w here - here • did prevail some degree of agitation, although the ma jority of t'e people, both in the coy ii•td every other part of the town, were decidedly in its favour. The Noble and Learned Lord had insisted much upon the Oath of Su• premacy ; but the Bill would not introduce one man into tbe country who would refuse to take the Oath of Supremacy. The will would introduce five or six Peers into that House, and a few Gentlemen into the House of Commons, who would not takir. the Oath 11Sapremacy. or that - against Transtiststaritiatiot. Bit what danger could be apprehended from this to the Protestant esta blishments of the country, where tire King most t>ces• study be a Protestant, and the great body of the p were decidedly Protestant, as their petitions proved Did not the Noble L ri know that Is r many years after the Pintestant religion was establisheil in Eng land Papist Peers. and Commoners sat in Parl zmeht. who would not take the 04h of Siapiemacy or the Oath against Transubstantiation, and that tio danger was apprehended from them until the throne Wll4 occupied by a P-pish Sovereign ? The Noble Lord . said there were no secutjtiei in the Bill. But as the Bill did no mischief it could not requite the intro duction of any securities; and, as he had ahead; shown, the iutioduction of securities would really have endanis gored the Church. If the Bill gave n i se:tiiities lie would ask did it take any a v ay ? It did ni thing mote, in fact, than admit a few Catholic Pee.s and Cum moneis into Parliament. The Nob:e L.Nrd then talked of the usurpations of tie Church of Route with respect -to mrutiageand other civil obligations. He must really say t'ut theseahiugs had no more to do with the ques• tapir than the marriage law of Scotland had to do with it. It the Crunch of 'tome dile/Jed its censures against any pa:titular individual, and he chose to submit, what harm could arise to the community? And it the indivi dual did hot submit. then the Church at Rouse was utterly without power. For the Noble and Learn,; Lord to tell him of the power of the Pope, was just like telling . him of the power of the common law to put down theta. tholic Associa t ion in Ireiand.When the Noble and Learned Lord sat upon the Woolsack, they heard n o thing of tl a Power 4 thiscommoti law. Then the Nool. Lord was perfectly quiet and at his ease, lettrig every thing taken, chance, supposing that affairs might goon for his time, and determined that the task of se thing them should re main lot his successors. The Noble Lord had act only disaperoved of this measure, but did he approve of the - plan of Mr. Pitt? Let him ans ter Aye or No to the quertirin. Did he appointe of what was the scheme of Mr. Pitt, that of making provision from the Stae toe the Roman Catholic Clergy of Ireland? Tuen the Noble and Learned Lord said they had not given hi= their case: He had as plainly as possible described the ; state of Ireland, and of England also—th t was his case. That tie Noble Lord might not know what the state of the two countries was he could believe, but that the Noble and Learned Lord who had so long possessed an elevated arid influential situation, was unacquainted with that state. when he n.O .t have seen it progressively approaching, was the most extraordinary thing be had ever heard iI. Tie state of Ireland was in fret such as had never before existed in any civilised country. Then he was aired . chat benefit he expected front this sue sure? Ile es• peeled that the agitation which had so long eaisnd, and had risen to such a height, would rapi_ly subside. He antiepateat that the hglier orders would now take an interest in appeasing and tranquillizing ti e country. if they did so, the measure would seer w idish all its objects. But if they did not take this course, wh cb was their natural and proper course. amid be felt convinced they would pursue it, then if they thus failed in their duty. the measure he admitted would be very likely to fail. And in this case he would. sa lib out the least hesitation, come down to Parliament to ask for further • pone's. for it was impossible the pee seat state of thing, could be permitted to continue. He regretted exceedingly his separation I:ntii the N able and Lea , 'zed Lord, and from an Illustrious Personaga ; he la mented the loss of their confidence, but he aut co aced thi from the beginning, when he c-naideted tire zeal and ardour they bad always manifested upon the subject be was about to introduce. He could only say, and this was his coosolatUn, that in the course of tlie:e proceed ings he had nil done an act or said a word v Inch i: was not his duty to do and to say. But in propustion to his tegret for the loss of the valuable soy port and assistance ut the Noble and Learned Lord, was his gratitude for the able support ad. rded him by other-, and i.e felt himself called wstin particularly to capess his ihar.ks to the Noble Lords opposite, who, w ithoet the tic of political cons ezion, had come forward in the most handsome and effective manner to his sup; oft. Their Lordships then divided, when there appeared— Conte Its—Present ........ ............. 149 Proxies NotteContents—Present ........... .. ..... .. Proxies .. ...... Majority QILILIFICAIIOM or ..... tamale (111BUittO BILL The third reading of this Bill was moved. and Otte or two Amendments proposed, bet they were nrgativeJ without • diet.. aim; sod the BSI was read a third time and passed. Adjourned at Two *Twee.. HOUSE OF COMMONS. On the Order of the Day for the Third Readitig of the Arch. Whop of Canterbury's Estate. Bill being read, ' Mr. HUM E saki, this Bill bad arrived at its present stare with. apt his having Ms opportunity of offering wry obserlvatuia on it. time praustet.law ail intumlArwa of Church livings were Mal. sled to pay tlfccbst of repairing or-rebuilding their houses at a per cent. bit which the wbuk should be repaid in twenty-Ave years.. By,dsrposatna 1bi1.A30,000 or £43.000 were to be bor. • rowed ter repaijteg Lambeth Palace—for the repayment of which forty years were to be riven to )be . Archbishop of Canterbury. He could not see why . the Archbishop of Canterbury, because be bad s larger being than others; tiould have a larger time given him for repaymem He moved that instead of one.forheth part of the principal mosey being repaid yearly,mair twenty-Aftb should be repaid. . hr. DENISON add, he could net sem In the amendmee, Ille Bill had undergone a very strict investigation before the Com. snittie;aod these was not a dbneniteat.voici. Too money was to be applied to the repair of the Atehbiebop's two house-, and be thought that was a reason for 'standing the time of payment. Mr. M A SEELY supported the Bill. lie. D. W. HARVEY opposed the Bill. The late Archbishop niVenterbury bad been upwards of twenty years In palimony's of Melee, which at the least produced bias atoßoo per annum, ash it was Incumbent on his representatives to pay at least one year's Wane towards making good dilapidation. , Mr. TENNYSON said the late Archbishop bad received ask 700 i. for dilapidation. when be entered into possession of Lambeth„ Palace, and though be left it in mach better repair than he found - .. it, his executors have dace paid the present Archbishop on =vane of dilapiditions, 5,9441. slaklt the present Arabian" mead ley out before be boriowed any matey. The present was an as el liberality on his part, as ft would 'abject him to a consitkrabie MP ; noel payment far giving a permanent mayibeence to the- Palaces If the Speaker, as executor to the late Archbishop of Can:trinity, p w rob oul a d b h il av ales e It kin au daess ebiec lite . the facts to the House, it wood ' Sir THOMAS FREE NTLX sepPneted the Bin* 'I 4.,..-. . Mr. BARING thought ...act graying out such • stun in sup. .-,,. ca.; tbe dignity .et shititirsh !vas holaporable to the Arts. of Centerbarp.