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'\ ..J.\ 'it.. `%,. • % . o .l k .•. LETITR4:ROM ,tl4 . CHARLES WOLSELEY • • TO THE tDITOR OF THE STAR. SIR—I should not be at all surprised should my presuming to interest myself in favour of our " good Queen CAROLINE," be the means of calling down the vengeance of my persecutors. But, Sir, even that shall not hinder me from putting in a word in favour of our persecuted Queen, should I" think it would be of the least service to her in her present unprecedented predicament. Having lived, Sir, at Como, for seven months of the year 1817, with my family, I very na turally had the curiosity to inquire as to the shameful reports that were prevalent, particularly in the Mi lanese, against her Majesty, and which reports, I am sorry to say, I generally had from the English tra vellers, they having received them, I suppose, from those people u;ho had been hired to infest the coffee houses at Milan, for the express purpose of prejudicing the minds of the English against their Princess—a circumstance so notorious, that any man going into one of them was sure to be accosted. At Como, how ever, where she was so well known, how astonished I was to find that the histories I had heard elsewhere were not even so much as hinted at ! On the con trary, I always heard her spoken of with reverence and affection. The poor blessed her, and her name was ever followed by prayers for her prosperity and happiness : her hand was ever open for the relief of those in want, or who were on the bed of sickness.— Having, therefore, heard nothing but good of her from those who really knew her, at the commence ment of the present prosecution I wrote to a Gentle man of respectability, of whom I had rented a house on the borders of that beautiful Lake, to inquire into the characters and situation of those persons who had been engaged to depose against the Queen, being satisfied that no person who had a character to lose could in conscience say aught against her; and at the same time begged to be informed if the report in one of the Papers was true, as to " a Priest having attended these witnesses, for the purpose of absolvin ' them from the consequences of a perjured testimony.' The answer to my letter I have this day received; and take the earliest opportunity of sending a copy of it to you, in order that you may make what use of it, or of mine, that you may think proper : and I remain, Sir, your obedient humble servant, CHARLES WOLSELEY. (COPY.) gi Sta—ln answer to your letter of the 15th July, in which you ask me the character of the witnesses against the Queen, according to the information which I have been able to collect, it is understood that they are almost all journeymen masons, with the exception of one, who is a locksmith's apprentice—all poor devils, who certainly have been induced by the prospect of good pay to depose even what has not the shadow of sense or probability.* " I have not been able to discover any Priest here, or in the neigbbourhood, who would lend himself to such baseness. I have spoken to the Professor Mochetti, who told me that 112 had not received any letter, on behalf of her Majesty, desiring Lim to repair to London to give testimony in her favour; and con.equently he is not disposed to go."—(The letter concludes with the usual compliments to Sir Charles and his Lady.) • This chews the opinion of the conspiracy at Como. The French Papers arrived this day are tl.ose of Sunday, consequently there is no notice taken of the price of Funds. The Government Official Journal I:As the following observations on the alarm in the Money market: g , It was well known that great speculations took place on the Exchange; they had long been defeated by public confidence, and nothing led to a belief that this confidence could be changed by false reports. But whether the interests of stock-jobbers became seriously compromised, or whether the factious deemed it politic to interfere with the public funds, it is evi dent that attempts have been made to lower the price, of stocks, by the circulation of absurd rumours. This; has been carried so far, as to announce that it is in tended to issue an Ordinance to place a certain num ber of Departments out of the pale of the Charter ; that whole legions are fighting in the Depart ment of the North, and that the towns of Brest and Strasburg are actually in a state of rebellion.— It is astonishing that such assertions should for a moment have found credence, and therefore their effect could not be of long duration. On 'Change this morning the rentes fell at first as low as 751 r. 50c. but reflection soon exposed the absurdity of these rumours, and before the close of the market the price rose as high as 76fr. 80c. There cannot be a more positive proof of the just manner in which public opinion has apphciated these fabrications, on which interested speculators have dared to calculate." The Journal de Paris, of the 2d instant, says, that among the present tactics of the disaffected is the circulation of a thousand rumours and false alarms, of deaths, of insurrections, and resistance to the lawful authority. These are industriously spread in the capital, in the hope that, propagating themselves fi om the centre of France to the Departments, they may succeed in producing disorder. Lieutenant-General Marquis de Lauriston has been appointed to the command of the 12th and 13th Mi litary Divisions, in which the town of Brest is in cluded. His appointment and his consequent de parture created a belief that the rebellion was making further progress in that quarter ; but the Journal de Pails asserts that all has been pacified. It adds, however, that the factious have changed the seat of the revolt, and have since placed it at Lille, Mentz, and Strasburg, with as much truth as in the former instance. It is evident, from these accounts, that the internal repose of France is much troubled at the present moment. Yesterday, a Meeting of the Inhabitant House holders of the Ward of Aldersgate took place at the Dispensary, Alda-sgate-street. An Address to her MAJESTY was unanimously agreed to. Thanks were voted to Mr. Alderman Cox, and the Meeting broke up. Her MAJESTY did not come to town yesterday. A crowd of three or four hundred persons, chiefly well dressed women, many of them apparently from the country, remained in front of the house the whole d.ty. Hackney-coaches were frequently sitting down and taking up persons, and an unusual bustle was ob servable. _ _ EXCHANGE, MARX -LANE, SZ7TEI2II 6.—We have had no arrivals of any Grain since Monday, but there being few buyers at market, the Wheat trade was exceedingly heavy, and l'Uonday's prices w. re with difficulty obtained. Oats were rather brisker in demand, though not higher in price. In Beans, reas, and Barley, there is little or no variation. PARLIAMENTARY PAPER. 4. , ... PROTEST. On the motion of Duke of 1413161129 that the Order of the Day for the Second Reading of the Bill of Pains and Penal ties against the Queen be rescinded. Dissentient, August 17,11140. Ist, Because•we fully concur In the opinion which has been expressed by the House of Commons, that the proposed inquiry would be " disappointing to the hopes of Parliament, derogatory from the dignity of the Crown, and injurious to the best into of the Empire." ad, Because the institution of proceedings which are allowed to be anomalous to the spirit of the British Constitution, and which do not appear to be warranted by considerations of State necessity, is, in our judgment, inexpedient, and may be viewed with much suspicion by the people. 3d, Because it does not appear to us that any object which could be attained by the proposed inquiry, whatever may be its results, is of such importance, as to be commensurate with the evils which, under all the circumstances of the case, may be ex pected to arise from it. (Signed) ST A N H OPE? KENYON? LEI NSTER, For the Ist and Sd reasons; HAMILTON and BRANDON, ALBEMARLE, ESSEX, COWPE ft, BEDFORD, DACRE, DUNCAN,* HILLSBOROU G H, FOLEY, KING. These marked thus (•) generally vote with Ministers. The others are Opposition Peers. THE EVENING STAR.. LONDON. WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6. 1820. PRICK OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT 0111 O'CLOCK : S per Cent. Reduced shut-3 per Ccnt. Cons. 674 34 per Cast. 774-4 per Ct. shut-5 per Ct. Wavy 1034 Imperial 5 per Cent. 674—India Bonds 211. 225. pre. South-Sea Stock 753-ICach. Bab Is. 4s. 2s. ss. pee. Consols for Acct. 684. It is understood that, yesterday, after the adjourn ment of the House of Lords, the KING'S Ministers went to his MAJESTY in his retreat in Windsor Great Park. The purport of their audience we pretend not to divine. Rumour, indeed, says, that as the great body of the evidence for the prosecution is new drawing to a close, they desire to take his MA-manes pleasure as to the further proceeding on the Bill. Whether it is meant by this that they will submit to his MAJESTY, that the evidence has not clearly proved all the facts set forth in the Inquisition at Milan ; and that though his MAJESTY and his confidential ser vants conceived that they had sufficient grounds for submitting the cause to public inquiry, the evidence does not justify them in persevering, and particularly with respect to the Divorce Clause.— This, however, is only the report of the day—and it does not seem worthy of credit, because, undoubtedly, to persevere in the Bill without the clause of divorce, would leave his MAJESTY in a worse situation than that in which they found him before the production of the Green Bag, since it would amount to this— Before, there were Only rumours and suspicions of indecorum and levity; but we have put them on re cord. We propose, therefore, by the Bill, to degrade her, but in this degraded state she is to remain your MAJESTY'S Consort, and in passing the Bill, your MAJESTY will have to give the assenting nod—" Le Roi le vent Another report is, that the ATTORNEY anSI SoLc- CITOR-GENEIAL mean to ask for an interval of five days, as they expect other witnesses, and particu larly one, from whom they trust they shall draw a strong incident which he witnessed at Lugano. If this should not be granted, the case for the prosecu tion will close this day, and the SOLICITOR-GENERAL may proceed to sum up. The evidence given yesterday by Signor Giztseppi Sacchi, alias Sacchini, alias Milani, alias ******, has caused much speculation. Philosophers are anxious to learn the new law of physics brought to light by this new Professor—namely, how any person's hand, that person being asleep, can, without glue, or any other kind of fastening, support itself above the centre of gravity ?—how—that person not being in a state of volition—his or her hand can be suspended, and not seek the lowest point of rest, without any artificial means being employed to prevent the usual effect of the law of gravitation ! And still further, supposing one individual to possess this singular faculty, by what means the same power could be communicated to another? for this very circum stance increases the miracle a thousand-fold at least.' Another part of this person's evidence also deserves particular notice. At one place—the name of which the witness could not recollect—having inquired for the PRINCESS and BERGAMI, and had it pointed out to him, he knocked at the door, and was told he might come in:—" I saw (said he) the PRINCESS and BERGAMI on the bed; but they were decently dressed, mid at a distance from each other." 4g How were they seated on the bed ?"—" They were lying on the bed, as far as the middle, and their backs leaning or resting against the wall."—The simple fact is this : they were using the bed as a sopha, sit ting upon it ; but this person chooses to call this pos ture of the sitting-part and legs, " lying." Why ? Were he not such a respectable personage—called by some a Count—we would say he thought the words " bed" and "lying on it," better suited to the com plexion wished to appear on the face of his evidence. After what has been stated, we need say nothing farther concerning the credibility of this philosopher's evidence, who saw people keep their hands compa ratively aloft, while asleep 1 and asleep too iu a car- riage jolting along a public road!! Another circumstance occupies a considerable por tion of tho public attention at this time. A few days ago, as our Raiders will recollect, Mr. Baouom..m took occasion to Solite that A* *Mt if ills prom cation now carrying on against the Quarts was in a more thriving *condition than that of her MA JESTY, with respect to pecuniary means, Lord Ltvnit- Poor. expressed surprise at such a remark, which- his Lordship thought the more extraordinary, inasmuch as Mr. BaoueaAM knew that unlimited TESOIMCES, were placed at the Qintex 's disposal, in drder to carry through her defence, and that even £lO,OOO had just been granted, en the signing of a certificate by her Meszsty's Counsel that such a sum was necessary for seeking up witnesses wherever her MAJESTY had been, and forwarding them to England. Would not any one have concluded from this, that thitmoney had been then advanced to her MAJESTY, to assist in the ex penses of her defence. Lord LIVERPOOL must himself have believed this at the time : but, mark the fact. On the day after this remark fell from Lord LIVERPOOL, the certificate, signed by her MAJESTY'S Counsel, ap peared in a Ministerial Paper (afterwards copied into all the others), stating that ten thousand pounds were needed towards the expense of her MAJESTY'S de fence; and this publication was the first notice which the Queues Counsel had, that their certificate had received any attention. Mr. BROUGHAM'S statement was made on the 28th ult. and by way of paying him a handsome compliment for candour, it was published that the money had actually been paid on the 26th— and yet up to last night, not one farthing of the £lO,OOO had been advanced ; no, nor even the receipt of the certificate acknowledged, except by publication in the Newspapers. So much for the candour exercised towards her MAJESTY and her Legal Advisers —so much for the facilities afforded to her MAJESTY to repel the calumnies of her enemies! It is also known that none of the monies previously advanced towards her MaJr.srv's defence were given without an undertaking that every part of them should be accounted for to the Lords of the Trea sury, with a detailed particular of every item : not a single sixpence can be expended which is not subject to their inspection ; and yet the very journals who daily calumniate her MAJESTY, more than insinuated that the £lO,OOO (not yet paid) was being squandered away in suborning witnesses for her MAJESTY!!— We may surely be allowed to ask, whether the monies expended and expending for the prosecution are to be submitted to a proper examination of the items, before any but the accusers themselves and their own proper agents? Every lay brings forward new facts respecting the kind of witnesses brought against her MAJESTY. See Sir Cita arzs WOLSELEY'S Letter, given in a pre ceding column, and the article entitled " Milan Com mission Courier," given in our fourth page.] HOUSE OF LORDS. EIGHTEENTH DAY'S PROCEEDINGS. At ten o'clock Prayers were read, and the roll having been called over, Lord KENYON rose and said, that seeing a No ble Earl (Liverpiol) in his place, he now begged to make the two motions of which he had yesterday given notice. He would not detain the House with repeating the reasons on which he grounded these motions, but content himself with observing, that, considering the strong public feeling which existed on the subject, he thought the House would not be doing their duty if they did not afford to the Pub lic the fullest information as to everything regard ing it. The Noble Lord concluded with making his motions : lit. For Copies of all Correspondence between his Majesty's Government and her Majesty's Advisers, on the subject of pecu niary Supplies, since the month of June last. 2dly. For an Account of all Supplies of Money made to htr Majesty, since her arrival in this country. Lord KING observed, that the motions submitted to the House only applied to the expenses on one side of the pending inquiry ; but, in his opinion, the House ought to inquire into the expenses of the whole transaction. It must have been very evident to those who bad attended to the evidence given at their Lordships' Bar, that large sums of money had been received by several witnesses—as much, indeed, had been distinctly confessed—and it was important to know by what authority these payments had been made, and from what funds they had come. There could be no doubt whatever that the expenses of these proceedings against her Majesty must alto gether form a sum of great magnitude, and it was not right that so much of the public money should be thrown away without the strictest enquiry being li made into the manner of its expenditure. It was, above all, of essential importance that the Public , should be satisfied that proper means have been fur nished to her Majesty to prepare for her defence, not merely means of a pecuniary nature, but all other means which may be necessary to compel the appear ance of witnesses. It was true that the House had received the most solemn assurances from the Minis ters for the Cr3wn, that every aid and facility would be afforded to her Majesty to bring witnesses from abroad, and no doubt this would apparently be the fact ; letters might be written to foreign Courts, de siring their interposition in behalf of her Majesty's agents; but what surety had the House that these letters might not, like other letters they had heard of at the bar, be double entendre:, asking one thing, but really desiring something very opposite. The House and the Public ought to be satisfied that her Majesty really had all the means ensured to her, /MIMI were requisite for her defence; it was not enough that there was the shew of everything, they ought to be convinced that all that was promisel had been realised. Lord LIVERPOOL bad no objectiot to the mo tions of the Noble Lord ; and, as to the obserratiolt made by another Noble Lord opposite, he would (only say, that at the proper time there would rot 1 1* the least difficulty in laying before Parliament art account of every hem of expenditure connected wit:-; the presenttransaction, though at present such 3 account could obviously riot be rendered without tl greatest inconvenience. The Marquis of BUCKINGHAM rose merely t , observe, that as her Majesty had no responsible ad visers, the words of the first part of the motion would require, in that respect, to be altered. Per• haps it would do to substitute the words—" Het Majesty's law servants." Lord LAUDERDALE thought that any accout of expenses connected with the present proceed ing ought to embrace the whole expenses, as wet! on one side as on the other. He doubted whetitc: he ought to agree to so limited a motion as that before the House. Lord DARNLEY agreed with the Noble Lord (Lauderdale) who had just spoken, as to the propriety of having an account of the whole expenses. The costs of the pending inquiry could not be otherwise than •ery great; and to satisfy the public mind the fullest account of them should be furnished. If a motion to that effect had been before the House, his Lordship would have agreed to it ; as it was, how. ever, he could not but give his hearty assent to the motion of the Noble Lord (Kenyon) for information as to so much of the transaction. The LORD CHANCELLOR suggested, that stead of the words u Her Majesty's Advisers," 44 Hcr Majesty's Counsel and Agents" should be substituted. Lord KENYON agreed to this alteration. The first part of the motion, in this amended shape., was then put. The LORD CHANCELLOR said the Contents had it. Lord LAUDERDALE thought the Non-coatents had it, and demanded a division. The House then divided, when the numbers were, Contents 133 Non-contents - 73 Majority foe the Motion . The second part of the motion was then also put, and adopted without a division, The LORD CHANCELLOR now repeated the grounds of the objection made yesterday to certain questions put by the Attorney-General, and objected to by Mr. Brougham, in the course of the re-exatni nation of Sacchi. His Lordship suggested, that the. opinion of the Judges should be asked as to two points: First, Whether an answer having been elicited on a cross-examination, relative to a confession made by a witness in a conversation with a third person, the witness may be re-examined as to the conversation preceding that confession, and which led to it?— Secondly, W hether a question may be asked in re examination, as to the conversation subsequent to that confession ? (which appeared in our raper of yes, terday). These points were submitted to the consi deration of the Judges, who immediately retired to consult. Mr. BEM/GUAM requested their Lordships would permit him, while the Judges were occupied in con sultation, to advert to a circumstance of which he had great reason to com plain. He was at all y times unwilling to complain of errors in the Press, knowing the incOnveniencies and difficulties which those en gaged to report the proceedings, had to encoun ter ; but he had to complain of the abuse of all the bounds which were universally pmcsibed.— He thought proper to address their Lordships with reference to a gross and flagitious misrepresentatiori not with the view of punishing, but of warning. In giving the evidence of yesterday, one of the Morn ing Papers made-. a most flagitious mistatement--a mistatement flagitious in its motive and purpose.. In answer to the following question by the Attorney- General—" Did any conversation take place between you and Marietti at that ti me, relative to your being a witness on the p resent occasion r—the Morning Paper to which he alluded, bad given the following as the witnesses answer : When he told Marietti that he was going against the Princess , Marietti told him that Mr. Brougham, brother to her Royal tress's Counsel. had said he would bestow favours on those who would not go. The course of proceeding that struck him as most necessary to be adopted, if such an answer had been given by the witness, was, that their Lordsbips should suspend all inquiry, and have Marietti brought before them, to give evidence of so daring an attempt upon the part of an individual to tamper with an evidence• But the answer to the question put by his Learned Friend, was not at all similar to that which was said by this Paper to have been given by the witness. It was as follows : Marktti came to me in the morning, and told me, that ane" titer Marietti had told him, that /dr. Brougham's broth( (brother to the Counsel for the Queen), had desired him, aril as Marietti had received some favours of those two brothers"-- -He (Mr. Brougham) then interrupted the witness, as deviating from the strict line of evidence, and no 'further communication took place relative to that subject. Now he would submit to the House, whe ther ever a more gross or flagitious mistatement had been made in a Court of Justice, and he trusted that their Lordships would enable him, by making inquiry into this business, to clear himself from impui interri sire th instan again! anent, would the of clu di r the ha Gores aPrel report 'ion wl rietti held to dig small rietti' from 'any c the su and ji ledge cuitot did Mr by sio Ifie OXI V' to wi sa