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LADIES AND GENTLIIIIIILY, IBEG leave to offer you my most sincere ac knowledgments for the very flattering reception I have met with during my canvass, from which I entertain the most con hops of a successful result. In that event I have only to repeat, that my best services shall be most zealously devoted to your interests, and to assure you that I shall ever retain the most grateful recollection of your kindness. The Election is fixed for Friday, the 9th instant, on which day 1 resrectfully and earnestly entreat your early attendance at the L+•-lndia louse in my behalf. I have the honour to be, Ladies and Gentlemen, Your faithful and obedient Servant, • JOSIAS DUPRE ALEXANDER. 11. hover-square, June 5.1820. N.B. Mr. Alexander's friends will continue to meet at the Cry of London Tavern every day until the day of Election. A T a 'numerous and highly-respectable MEET ING of PROPRIETORS of EAST-INDIA STOCK, hv!d this day, at the City of London Tavern, KIRKMAN FINLAY, Esq. M.P. in the Chair, . . The following Resolutionswere passed unanimously, proposed Sir James Shaw Bart. and seconded by David Lyon, Esq. I.z, That Mr. Jolias Dupre Alexander, a Candidate for the v.:cant Seat in the East-India Direction, is, in the opinion of this ".%lieeting, highly qualified to bit the vacancy occasioned by th.. 2 lamtnted death of Sir John Jackson, Bart. _ _ _ Proposed by Charles l'ieschell, Esq. and seconded by Stewart larjoribanks, Esq. M.P. ‘2l, That a residence of eighteen years in India, a part of which time was exclusively devoted to the service f the East -1:-.3ia Company in the Revenue and Commercial Departments, L:4,r the Presidency of Fort St. George, and the remainder of that period in conducting the concerns of an eminent House of Avecy in Calcutta, has afforded Mr. Alexander an opportunity of acquiring much experience and useful knowledge in the af fairs or the Last-India Company. Proposed by John Forbes, Esq. and seconded by Benjamin Shaw, Esq. 3d, That Mr. Alexander has received from the Governor of Ceylon (to which station he was attached by the Government of Fort St. George), and also from his superiors in office at Madras, their decided approbation of his services in a *manner highly honourable to his character and abilities; and that in the prose cution of his duties, whether as a servant of the List-India Com pany, or in his capacity of Agent, he has evinced great industry, zeal, and integrity. Proposed by the Right Honourable the Earl of Caledon, and seconded by Robert Downie, Esq. M.P. 4th, That with these impressions of Mr. Alexander's preten s.ons to the countenance and support of the Propridors of East- India Stock, this Meeting Will most sttenuously exert their en deavours to secure his election to the vacant Seat in the Direction. Resolved, That the abase Resolutions be inserted in the Pub lic Papers. KIRKMAN FINLAY, Chairman. Proposed by Edward Fletcher, - sin. and seconded by Thomas Redhead, Esq. That the cordial Thanks of this Meeting be given to Kirkman` Allay, E. 31. P. for his able conduct in the Chair. May 30th. 1820. _ _ N.B. Mr. Alexander's Committee will continue to sit every day at the City of London I:4vern, until the day of Election. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, TUNE 7. After the judicial- busineu of the day was transacted, the Mar ii.j• of I3uTa took the oaths and his seat. Their Lordships then adjourned during pleasure.—At five o'clock the House monied. the Cape of Good llope•Bill, the 'Navigation I3iH, the Ja rt::ica Trade Bill, and some private Bills, were committed. The Earl of DARLINGTON presented a Petition of the &rip Owners and others of Sunderland, in the County of Dur complai • g of the Duties on Timber imported from the Baltic, and praying a modification thereof; which was referred to their Lordships' Select Committee on the state of the Fo rcign Trade. On the motion of the „Ilarquis of LANSDOWN, a variety of farther Accounts and DOCUlllelits were ordered to be produced r rilerenec to their Lordships' Select Committee. THE KING'S MESSAGE. The Earl of LIVERPOOL asked if there was any further business to be disposed of? And on being an swered in the negative, his Lordship moved the Or der of the Day for taking his 'Majesty's most gracious Message into consideration. The Message having been read, The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved an Address to thank his Majesty for his most gracious Me s sage, and to assure him that the House would, in regard to the important communication which it contained, adopt that, course of proceeding which the justice of the case, and the honour and dignity of the Crown appeared to require. Lord HOLLAND observed, that it would perhaps Le better to state clearly to the House, in the first ir•stance, the mode of proceeding to be pursued, be fore it pledged itself to voting the Address. Me Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that the Address was so worded, purposely, that •it might not be thcught to pledge the House to any measure what ever. It was a mere answer to .his Majesty's com rann;cation, and nothing more. The motion that was to follow would contain the information which tl.e Noble Lord required. The Address was then read front the Woolsack, and agreed to. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he now rose in tract' to propose the course of proceedings which he icidted the House to adopt. He would move for a Secret Committee, consisting of fifteen Lords, to be constituted by ballot, for the purpose of examining the papers laid before the House, and to report upon them as they might think fit. This course was most analogous to precedent, as far as any could be consi ened applicaule to the present case. It was also the most eligible, in reference to the delicacy which onght to be observed towards the feelings of the illus triuus persons whom it concerned, and of all others whom it might involve. The Noble Lord said, that he would not enter further into the view which he caertained of the question at present, but would re serve other observations until he saw. whether any tbjeczioa was made to the course which he advised, uhea he trusted that he would be allowed to explain, a.. far as any misapprehension of his statement made it accessary. It should be kept in mind that the Lject of the Secret Committee was to consider whe ',zee &ay Dr what gnomes should be resorted to.— He wished to guard himself by that explanation of the duty which it had to perform, from the supposi tion that anything further than such preliminary measure was to be the result of the deliberations of l the Committee ; and he desired to be distinctly un derstood, as not proposing any line of proceeding, whereby an Exalted Personage was. to. be ' deprived of the right of every subject, and to be tried without , the fullest inquir y—(Hear, hear). The present mode of investigation did not affect the justice of the cast, while it was the most decorous and considerate with respeCt to all parties. If any further exposition was necessary, he would most willingly give it. His Lordship then moved the Committee. On the motion being read by the CiTANcELLOR ; The Marquis' of LANSDOWN rose, and said, that it was not without great pain that he could in duce himself to speak upon a subject of such a nature —that pain he should always feel, whenever an in vestigation was adopted, into the private conduct of any membeS of the Royal Family, pirtlealarly one holding so elevated a situation. Such a dttt?must be repugnant to tlie feelings, not only of those per sons of the Legislature who formed the Court, hut of the Public who awaited the decision.— The Noble Lord .said, their Lordships ought not to be indifferent to the public voice ; that he could have wished that the House had been enabled to form a more accurate estimate of the course which it was proper to pursue by being furnished with more ex plicit information than the Noble Lord had in his speech thought proper to communicate. He could not tell what view of the case had been formed by those who had entertained the question for a long time before they came into that House, with their minds made up upon the present occasion, and who had been long occupied in the consideration of the subject. ' But deprived as he was of this advantage, he would say on the primafacie view of the case, that there was a great, if not an insuperable, objection to the mode of proceeding suggested by the Noble-Earl. That Noble Earl had proposed a Secret Committee, and a communication had been received from the Throne respecting the conduct of her Majesty—but a similar communication had been made to the other House of Parliament. The servants of the Crown had advised this course, but he begged their Lord ships to consider its probable consequences. The House of Lords was- in the dernier resort, a Court of Judicature, and the only Court before which any ulte rior proceeding founded on the Report of Committees could come. lie must conclude, that when advice was • given, or a communication made to that extent which had been laid before the other House of Parliament, it was impossible to exclude the possibility that it• might lead to the exhibiting articles of impeachment by the other House. No person who was ignorant of the contents of the papers in the sealed bag, could say, that those statements might not lead to such a consequence. Their Lordships , would, therefore, consider-the situation in which they were placed.— They would look to the Courts of Law, and observe how scrupulously the duty of Judges was separated from that of Juries, and while they considered the probable result of the communication to the other House, which, not upon speculation, bat in a muu aer that stared them in the face, was likely to lead to a calamitous result, he entreated their Lordships not to take such a step as would disqualify them for the discharge of an ulterior. though, most painful duty. This was an objection founded upon one of the most essential principles of the Constitution. Nothing could justify a departure feom such a principle, but a peculiar necessity. It had not been shewn that this peculiar necessity existed in the present case. . As far as the reference of the documents to a Secret Com mittee would go to screen the whole of those un happy transactions from the public eye, he would assent to such a triode of considering them; but it was evident that the examination of them by a Secret Committee would have no such effect. The Public of England could not be thus prevented from being a party to the transaction. The Noble Earl had stated, that no evidence could be advanced which her Ma jesty should not have the opportunity to rebut, in the best way that, to her seemed advisable. Where-then ccald be the secrecy? Everything in the accusa tion must be made known in the progress of the de fence; and the defence being public, the privacy of the accusation could have no effect in suppressing the information which was essential to the final deci sion. As to the justice of the proceeding, the House would not have advanced one step by pursuing the present mode. It could be of but little moment that , a few Lords, let ming a Secret Committee, came to a certain resolution upon ex parte evidence. The. Ministers might as well at once have giVen the House their opinion upon the course to be finally adopted. Did they think that this House could be better informed, because a few Noble Lords were, added by the Committee to ministerial authority oe the question ? It was well known that. Ministers had been for more than a year collecting the *sults of repeated inquiries, and had the -opportunity of ascertaining the value, weight, and credibility of the evidence on which the case was to be sustained. It was impossible to suppose that any course of pro ceeding could be recommended by the few Lords who were to compose the Committee, better than could have been advised by the Noble Lords oppo site, who were acquainted with the whole of the evi dence. At the soewing of the Noble Lord himself, the Committee could not inquire farther than the Noble Lords opposite, who having read the whole of the evidence, were not still in a situation to recoils= Imend any course of proceeding to the House. 'Hcpw then could any number of Peers make up. their minds; to recommend any course to be adopted ? Besides, I it was necessary that the House, being the highest, ICourt of Judicature in the - country, should be kept clear of all taint and sur position of prejudice? I The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he felt himself 1 called updn to say a leav words in consequence of what had fail= from the Noble Marquis. At time ~ r I ...,-.,. • ;e • 2 • . , . , . . same time, it was impossible now that he could give stantial - justice, and should not proceed in a manlier that•full explanation ° which he trusted be should do which experie nc e h as s h ewn to b e most ur.satisfactore when the proper opportunity should arrive. He to the country ; the People were still goaded tIY trusted, however, that without going into that.part measures growing o u t of Secret Committee proceed of the que s ti on - to which he alluded, lie should now lugs.' On these groends, even if he thoug'nt the line •be able to. satisfy the Noble Marquis as to what were proposed (which he certainly did not) uas a consti the inceptions of his Majesty's . Government. He tutional course, he should feel it his duty to oppose trusted first, that he would be excused from mating the proceeding. fully those circumstances which would thew that the The LORD CHANCELLOR expressed his painful proposed course of proceeding was the fittest to be sense of the difficulties and peculiar delicacy of such adopted, jilt were fitting to adopt any proceeding at a case as the present. He differed widely from his all, or anything that would go to anticipate the deci- t Noble Friend (if he would permit him so to call him) sion of the Committee ; .-and the very reason why it as to the principle of the course proposed, that of . a was advisable to . refer the case to the consideration Secret Committee, in the first instance. It operated :of such a Committee in the firstinstance was enough most evidently to p rotect t h e innocent. IttnaV be to close his mouth with re f ere n ce t o those points.— regarded in the light of a Grand dory of the cOuntir He would now come to the most important enestion investigating in the first instance ; and the 'object of ,of the,Noble Marquis, namely, with respect to a si- a Secret Committee was on its inquiry to report miler communication being made to the other Hou s e whether or not - there Were sufficient grounds for a. of Parliament, and that it was possible that a pro- legislative or for a judicial proceeding. It . was by ceediag way be brought judicially before their Lord- nseeemue,4tressusumg against the iunoeence.of the ,ships ; and that, therefore, it was not fit, at such 'a inclividasil tbat the previous mode o f Secret Inquity time, and under the ci r c ums t ances , t h at a proceeding was proposed—it argued rat he r the contrary, and it should originate i n th a t H ouse .. Thi s sup p os i t i ons was hut following th e ana l ogous li ne o f _ procestfinie must proceed on an assump t i on • o f gu ilt. H e by gr Ilis,Lordship th en glanced ntshe principle and pre means wished . to make such an assumption nose s ., visions of the T r e ason Laws under the Statute o f 1 What he said now on this p o i n t, l ie w i s h e d t o b e co i s - Edward HI. an d on t hi s h ea d h e eieminded ' the sidered as hypothetical. He h a d no di ffi culty i n s ay. law simila r ly t o' w h at w a s a d vance d . b y h i i.Kobre ing, that in some, and only in sooie respects, he Friend at the head of his Majesty's counci:s; anlithe agreed with the idea of the Noble Marquis. He held it deur, that where the man was not guilty of would further say, that if the case was as he would the offence of high treason, the woman could not be 'suppose—if the evidence was sufficient to convict the an accessary. In his view of the present vase, either Illustrious Personage of a charge of High Tigress's, Parliament must interfere, or nothing could be done. it would certainly not be fit to refer the case to the Neitherslid he agree with his N o bl e F r i en d (L or d consideration of the other H ouse ; but thatahe La w Holland) in ilie .opinion that the mode of ad: ailing a Officers of the Crown should be•directed to institute Secret Committee was inconsistent with a judicial proceedings in the Tribunals of the Country, and proceeding in fine, the mode proposed wasa more bring the supposed offender to trial. But suppose effectual way of extending' protection to the aicusel - the Queen guilty of w h a t by so m e m i g h t b e su pp ose d than any oth er , an d eipetially when cornpared tO the High Treason—the commission of adultery abroad ; . mode of bringing for Ward aHi 11. . ". • ..:: and suppose the evidence left no doubt of the fact., . The Marquis of LANSDOWN -repeated,: that - it he had to inform their Lordships, - upon the highest was impossible' for the Ilcuse to assume that "the legal authority, that, under such circumstances, it other House of Parliament might not think this'Atill was not High Treason by the laws of the country, .ter a subject of impeachment:.- The Noble and leratnel nor was .it cognizable by the laws of this country.— Lord had, to his surprise, talked of a Grand Jury. 'By the Act of Edward 111, the commission of adul- Did he forget that thelloust - of Coma - irons was - the tery with the wife of the King, or the wife of the Heir true Grand Juts - ; and woull he havi'she PetiZ: 31lify Apparent, was rendered, if the Queen was consenting, sit as a Grand Jury on the criminal it might ...al - try- High Treason in her, as her so ,consenting would wards have to try ? . render her an accompli ce . , B ut i n a case lik e •The Ea r l of DONOtGHM'ORE said, Tie could that supposed, a case wherein the Queen may have not let thitiMportant" and•tiomentetis tiolsi t if:.ii ass committed adultery with a. fpseigeer abroad, and without givingliis opinion upoit . it.' . 1.4 . 5 ' ' l?e sr' that foreigner owed no allegiance to his Majesty, she differed With those' with relight he- heti beerrni. the . could- net be considered. as an accomplice in a crime habit of actieg.."oo this shhject ; and, there which in law was not High Treason. It could not had reason to distrust hls own judgmeht.' • . be predicated as a trea s o n abl e o ff ence . H e b e lie ve d Seemed to, think: th!s a, 'iroceectlng -which ire'ituldier • tavv i 42 that the crime of adultery on the part of the Queen, minate and Coticlemti an Illustrious tenon: - But thls or.the wife of the Heir Apparent, could not.be Made was not even thectintnuncernealt: of etridl I it 'vas the subject of a misdemeanour. In. the Courts of the rnostrielicate,leeent, and respecifill method; by Law the offense was considered as a civil:injury : 'which it'could be ineiniteri whether any crimifiatOry and he would ask on what principle, where an in- proceedings should or should not bephteed jell% weft dictment could not be laid for a misdemeanour, upon 'of trial. They were only called upon tocousseilebis what ground could an impeachment be brought for Majesty, whether, for the honour of-the Crown, am high dimes and misdemeanours in a case of the 'ulterior proceedings were necessary, with respect to Queen? As to whether the present case was one which the Conduct of this Illustrious Individent. • Did they could be entertained by Parliament, he should wish to not know that the greatest pains had been taken On ' reserve his Opinion: But if the case were one .to whicli agitate the public' mind Aka this subjects/ :Mid would Parliament only was competent to apply a remedy, they, upon what was - said in . Newspapersestop a in every case which was analogous, the mode now . grave Parliamentary investigation, in ordeesse id proposed was certainly the most respectful course of quire What the public opinion on this..greatsques .proceeding ; certainly more so than one in which, tion was? Ire agreed with the Learned Lord:on the, where no knowledge on the part of the House or of Woolsack, that the proposed proceeding sees: inter the Public existed, a process was to be founded at once. posing the shield of Committees of betb. Houses of - In cases of pains. ao,pen4ties„ when a Bill ore- Parliament before the Illustrious Personage. The ginated in the'Other *me, at was thought proper to Queen Consort. of these Rciloss should ebessosansly • refer the matter to a Secret Committee, before it,was free.front stain, hot frcni the imputation of blesniele, regularly discussed by the Hpuse itse lf. He must Lord HOLLAND was anxious that his opini o n s consider, therefore,, that the present was the most should not be misunderstood on this question. The proper, delicate, and Eespeetful course that .could be Noble Lord who last addressed the House had not • pursued, With respect to his Majesty'eCiovernment spoken to his argument at all. He lacked much of having previcus or extensive information on the sub- the sensibility to be produced by public irritation ; ject, being urged as an objection, he would ask whe- and if there were any arts, of which he knew nothing, ther such might not apply to-any case s as in those of used to excite that feverish irritation in the public conspiracies against the State, ; or several others, mind, he from his heart abhorred and detested them. where Government might natutally be expected to He thought, however, it was their duty to allay as have more information. than in cue like the present? much as they could all that' feverish instability. If There could not, he repeated, be a more respectful they prejedged this case, lie would not say they.did or fairer mode of profelding, than that of referring an injustice to the indivijual ; 'but he theughtsthey the proposition to a Secret Cnnimittee, leaving it to would get Themselves involved in suspicipo n iet r of such Committee to judge ofite.merits, to the extent which lie saw no way., He was far horn .thinking of whether any, or what course of proceeding, was that no, inquiry should be instituted in this case; btlx proper to he adopted. It certainly must he more ,he thought s hat inquiry should be made by use cakulated to satisfy the public mind, o r t h e R o y a l G ra nd Inquest Of the Nation-s • -the .cther House of Personage in question, than if they were to come in Pasliameet ; and they,, who were ; the Sppreme Court the first instance to Parliament with a proposition for of Judleatina s should not come, prejneiccel so any a Bill—( Hear, hear! ), . judgment they might be called upon Jo . .giee.. Ile . Lord HOLLAND argued, that the propose4mode ,did not think the proposed mode of prcceeding more of proceeding was by no Means the regular or con- severe, or as severe as masy that might be adopted; stitutional course, or that which would at 41 satisfy but he protested against it as unsomtitutional. • the public mind. If by Parliament the decision was ' 'The Marquis cf L4NSDOWN aisseed in eery to be made, a more inconvenient or uesstisfactory word of the explanatieri of his Noble Kietid. .' • mode could trot be suggested. If the NOble. Earl It was afterwards ordered that the %Commit*. Ithould: b e conceived a legislative remedy, whether of divoreb e th h e cilie c n o h T u b it a t i t i v ot sb t " l atad uirr he 'V" vaders "" tk*t . d "untkelt Pf or of pains and pEnalties to be the most eligible wi,e, The Bills upon the table berit,g req . esitvii i • W an the submitting of. such. Dill to Parliament was pzek• adjournment inunediare/f !col Lice.. • ' -;nit 'ts el., f.. i.. . • J • r ferahle to a judicial course of proceeding. The mode ~ . - iious.p d oi cpAllidsA ,-,. ''' ' m-I `, At lialfinrt tw ' 'cliithe, Ct. • i -- aleit •of communicating the subject ; to both Houses at • o y . 4 . 4, .r? mss once may place their Lordship* in a most uefasotirs illisicra (A straligir‘ . .w IS crostrd rt.biled iici% iati b i d ,; able predicament, as it was more than.poisible that VIA it. , - . -i • , -Z . :jute-J - 6..46 4 '. •. -,.* I is von t . se the Commons may resort to a iudicial proceeding. h On the matlea 44%1 P alMaßGASTs•witutataUrd titre jal ' 41 4T b :h e : had elift accef;tredr%;:e Pre4:reesisenbStlttlao!thardthe4l•LteortEeeut, The circumstance. of a Committee of that Hoesei offering an opinion, must greatly militite against its • a pew Writ was ordered to be te.sdi - o••t for antial k , •.. - judicial character ; and it was most important, in al 'Mr.LEIGIIKR( K broughtiv the ROPttefthe . Sertei Cent oughtsridge Election, -sp:iteh oared abe•det.. constitutional poiet of view, that its judicial chi. i I' ll t. ve an . ebe te Str ratter should be untainted. The mode of proceeding , Q 1 0 ° Lawson e and Spooner , . ' I t h V 4 i: t re i ll b :t tt!"-liiieTcnitedMand itr:i by Secret Committees had latterly, and most de% nes, Mundy and Mr. Dailks were day el, tad for the s'S'd servedly, become very nnpoptilar in ,the cueetry. Tiororgh, Itut that the . opposition to tbs. Petition wattling bi n ,. They must recollect, and reel what haesh, w h at yr ss lov k or vexation,. • • w N . • • constitutional and oppressive regulatioes „Cinauiteal .01 all (.70. OR the 1 "" 4 ."° gi ' mr .' CC - R 8 *an le.-°°" was Awed ezportodoato Ireland,. front, Januaryt • 101 04 .Itt from Green Boa Commietees.' The term ever souiided: ..January, I nsQ, odious and ungrateful in the ears of . ..People. Thel. The'SPEAKER rtibia the opporturitY Of ollbereingritit is t to lih'aisiearlier time tlian7upub House should seriously , coasider, aid, • no q?eisn - s" 1 7 uhVbe riPeliktt , i ,_. . t es ii n _ 4 Laing the public business. .H. isopedthat half .' hastily hastily adopt the proposed triode 4. r iC 6' — ' would be thought a convenient dwelt Su • ' - N *e ll hatever they chi should be in th e ptin4e eOf sub- l p• ' • . . • 1 e i k tu'Pt N v il s .4.l — efi Yek 4l 44 inihr.li °I - • '1 '''''' ' . -3!.. i . . .' .i!,:. ,, i • -.4. 4,etrf;i:4;77'J t % ) 1 j; . , •*„ • .., •:,- • • .ir , in.,1•4: 4 .• 1r '}e, ', "?..? r . .:, '. . 1%.:4 igrftovit. 4,, '.; , • •• . • • • . ...X •a• * 4 SAIL4 ••11' _..•.