Star. — London, England, 1812-03-24 00:00:00

dot sing 04' out ailp P b ighc intd . i jai &tiler information, he should dean it a *mew pike of Extravagance. gr. FREEMANTLE seas Of Opinion, that every ee e siefitielon w. dhe to the Princess for he ami able qii .lificatiens aed eterhplary conduct: He e nti ght.they ought to inquire into the appropeiation t i s k civil List—to inquire whether the burdens on ibe pebple could not be lessened ; but the vote to de princesses was 'quite a separate question, and one t o w hich he could not object. As to the anticipation tithe grant, it was on the ground of the lamentable situation of the Princesses, arising out of the peculiar state 1 f the Royal Family. The grant, he ihoUght, was called for in justice to the House, and as a just re {yard to the Princesses for their amiable conduct. Mr. D. GIDDY, as Chairman of the Cointnittee sispo eeed to inquire into the appropriation of the Civil List, stated, that many circumstances, which he s hould not now state, had hitherto very materially i nterru pted the progress of the Conetnittee. Many ➢apers had been laid before them, The Committee would endeavour to its utmost to be of service to the public • but if he found that their endeavours were not likely to be successful, he should apply to the House for leave to examine persons vivo voce, or other. { w ise, as might be deemed advisable. Mr. BENNETT would not consent to grant a ;billing et the public money in such grants as were now applied foe, so long as sinecure offices remained in existence. With respect to the Princess ()Males, ihformation certainly was wanting, and he knew no pe r son so capable of giving the required information e s the Right Hon. Gentleman who had conducted the " Delicate Investigation." The loss was certainly very great to the country, there being no drawing rooms. He called on the Chancellor of the Exche quer to state why the Princess of Wales was thus de graded ? He had heard certain whispers of libe:s—of books so ppressed—ot large sums given for odd volumes that had escaped; but he could not think that the Right Hon. Gentleman would desert her in silence Whose cause he had once advocgted, without assign ing some reason foristich change. TI e CHANCELLOR of die EXCHEQUER, In reply to what lnid been said respecting the Prin cess of Wales, observed, that with regard to the un fortunate separation, he could say nothing. He bight lament the circumstance, in common with every other person is the kingdom ; but he certainly did not see how they could call on him for informa• titan, either as the servant of his Majesty, or as the Minister of the Prince Regent. As to the Queen's addition of 110,01:X) it was made in consequence of the deprivations which she suffered by not having the benefit of the King's Establishment ; nor was that grant connected with any condition of the Princesses being to live with her Majesty constantly. Mr. WHITBREAD could not but think, that the House had some right to know ev! , y the Princess of Wales did not act as consort of the Prince Regent. The Chancellor of the Exchequer might now think that it would not be proper to give information on such a subject ; but there was a time when, in his opinion, every individual in the kingdom ought to have information on these delicate cocumstences.-- Fie this purpose, he had written and printed a book, which had been most unaccountably suppressed-.-R bock that was to visit the remotest corner of the Empire, and to give information to every quarter of the world—a publication for which he was to receive £lo,ooo.—(Hear, hear.)—lt might now possibly be politic to remain mute, where he had formerly in tended to speak to the whole nation. It was known that the Prince Regent's consort remained in retire bent, either at Blackheath, or in Kensington ; but the world knew nothing of any separation. They knew that she was not in the situation in which the Right Hon. Gentlema r e in his Book, intended to have told the kingdom that she ought to be. Thus far )cnew the country--but all the rest was veiled from human observance: Before the present grant was made, he thought they ought to learn the effect of liquify into the Civil List. Mr. WYNNE was of opinion, that the question Night not to be made to turn on the virtues of the Princesses ; and also thought, that inquiry should precede the grant. Mr. PONSONBY made some observations in re ply. He repeated hii former'objection to the grant, that sufficient reason had not been Adduced to ',tastily the anticipation. The ground, therefore, on which the present grants were moved, was an assurance that the Princesses were not likely to remain long un der the parental roof, but have an establishment of their own. On the whole, he could perceive no ar guments by which the motion could be fairly suppor ted, aid would, therefore, vole in hostility to it. . Mr. HENRY THORNTON recommended the Postponement of the Measure until the whole system of the Civil Establishment was minutely examined. Mr. WROTTESLEY expressed enrich concern that the present motion had not been proposed, when the recent increase of the Royal Civil Establishment took place, so that the whole might have been exa mined under the deliberate eye of Parliament at one extensive view; a n d h a d t h e Ri g h t H on . G ent l eman at 'w that period conceived that any such measure as the .present would be necessary to adopt, he had certainly carried hitnself i n a high anner to the House is not deigning to mr. mention so important a motion. BARHAM said, that he wished to put some questions to the Rig ht Hon. Gentleman, not as the as eon t fi he cle tnitlial adviser of the Prince or his consort, but luster of t h is c ountry . He wished to ask him in that capacity, why he had recommended an additional gran t for t h e Princesses, and had entirely overlooked the person who was so much nearer to the Throne than they were * He asked this qu estion on public g rounds, and he asked it of the Right Hon. the Mi ni ster not as the adviser o f the P r in ce , b ut as Right ster of th e _country. He called upon the Gentleman to state why no additio n al Hon. splendourwthe a . s to be att a ched t o th e Princess o f W a l es , (1 Wife t Prince R egent ? CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Was silent.) Mr ' TI ERNEY said he rose to ask the Right Ho. wnoausrlaibileelyGetopeman no question, for he saw that he get no answer ; but he thought they th vet_e b ensi . tLedoto conclude, from the sullen silence of vri c th il i V a t Honourable Gentleman, that he sanctioned e te.e "_„'s_ o PProbation what he refused to answer,— . V °Pv, it n °, Iron the Chancellor of the Exchequer.)— him euti ve Honou rable Gentleman cries No—then his reasons. (Cries of No, and Hear.) e Princessußsegent had not one farthing mbre assn- red to Ater than 46000. he d'epencied on tile ixiunty of the Prince for the other 17,000, which might be withdrawn at his pleasure. If the Princef.ses trete to be made independent, why was she not made inde pendent ? Sne (might, undoubtedly, to be indepen dent.. 4-( Crier of No, No, from the Minicterial Bench.) He says No, No!—and I say, (said Mr. Tierney) Yes, Yes I—l call Upon him for his reason why she should not be independent ? Both he and the Lord Chaficellor must have informed themselves fully with respeCt to her conduct. If there was any thing in that conduct known to them, and unknown to the country, unworthy of her, the dignity of the country, and the dignity of the Prince Regent required of the Right Honourable Gentleman to b r i ng f orwar d an accusation against hers (Hear, hear.) He wished an answer. These were not impertinent questions. As a Member of Parliament he was imperiously bound to put these questions to him as the Minister of the Crown. In the situation in which he had for. merly stood with regard to the Princess Regent, he would not exactly say that he fomented the differences between her and the Prince, but if he was the author of that publication alluded to, his conduct seemed something extremely like it. Perhaps the Right Ho: uourable Gentleman had changed his sentiments with his situation. He had cast off, it would appear, one client to take up the brief of another. (if laugh % ) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sa:cl, that as for what he was bound to do from regard to the country and his own character, he should al ways judge for himself. He should, however, say thus tar, that neither in his capacity of Counsellor to her Royal Highness, nor in any other character what ever, had he any charge against her Royal-Highness, or the means of bringing forward any charge, and that he never meant to cast the slightest reflection upon I her. As to the subject of this discussion, he had no delegated authority ; no commands to propose an ad ditional grant for the Princess of Wales. Nevertheless, it he could collect that it was the sense of Parliament that such additional prevision should be m ide, he made no thiubt but that he would shortly be fully authorised to propose it. Mr. TIERNEY said, that it was bow when grants were making for all other brandies cf the Royal. Fa mily, that a proposal for an increased establishment 'of the Princess of Wales might be expected. But the Right Honourable Gentleman now gives the House to understand, that if they absolutely will have it so, why then he will abate something of his dignity, and comply with their desire so-far as to recommend it. But did not he know pretty well, that it would have been necessary for him to recommend it first, and then that he might pretty well depend on the sense of Parliament ? He now said, that he was not.au thorised—that he had no commands to brit% forward such a measure. That was saying, in other words, I that he had not advised such a measure. He was glad, however, to have heard him state dis t i n ctly, th a t he knew no charge against'her Royal Highness as Princess of Wales. Mr. COURTENAX thought it highly unusual to call upon a Minister to bring down any particular Message from the Throne. Mr. C. ADAMS thought the introduction of this topic irregular, as it was not the business before the Committee. Mr. WHITBREAD said, that it was no great I concession to say, that if such was the general sense of Parliantent, the Right Hon. Gentleman would ac quiesce. He thought, however, that the House had gained a most important confession, when be who I had been the Counsellor of her Royal Highness, and I is now the Mil-sister of the Prince Regent, allows that no imputation whatever rests on the Princess of Wales. Certainly, there was a time when the Right Hon. Gentleman thought that she had been unjustly stigmatised, and was preparing a book, to be pub lished to all Europe, in vindication of the Princess. ' He was happy, however, now to find, that he thought no vindication necessary. He was astonished, how ever, that when the Right Hon. Gentleman thought proper to continue so many Lords of the Bedchamber, and Grooms of the Bed-chamber, for his Majesty, who have no other visible business but to inform his subjects as to the state of the health, (which, by the bye, is now only done once a month) he should not have thought it as much for the dignity of the Throne, that a person so near to it should be supported in proper splendour. He was convinced, that if he conid look narrowly at the expenditure of the Civil List, abundant means would be found for this purpose. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER in explanation said, that from no information which Ihe had received, either as Counsellor to her Royal Highness or in any other capacity, could he collect any thing which would make a proper charge against her Royal Highness. After a few words from Mr. LOCKHART and Mr. &Lis, • Sir JOHN NEWPORT again calied on the Right Honourable Gentleman tor some reason why her Royal Highness was passed by, when there was no charge against her • To this question there was no reply, and the reso lution was carried without a division. Report ordered to be brought up to-morrow. COLONEL M'M A MON. 14r. C. W. WYNNE gave notice, that he should to-morrow move for a copy of the instrument appoin ting Colonel M.Mahon to the Office of Private Se cretary and Privy Purse to the Prince Regent. COLONEL TAYLOR. Mr. WHITIIR EAD inquired concerning the mode in which Colonel Taylor's Salary was now paid. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER informed him, that, formerly, the salary was paid from the Civil List of his Majesty, and the late ar• rangements had transmitted it wholly to that of the Queen., EA NKR up? mssnotas OP PARLIAMENT BILL. Mr. THOMPSON moved the Order of the Day for the second reading of this Bill. Mr. ROCHDALE said a few words in opposition I to same of its clauses. Mr. HENRY SMITH opposed it, on the grounds that it would bar the door of Representation against many able and honourable men who might, in these days of speculation, be reduced by unhappy mercan tile connections to a state of insolvency. Mr. LOCIRHART, Mr. WILLIAM SMITH, and Mr. CRARLES(WYNNIC supported the Bill, on its constitu- , tional grounds. Mr. LA MBE opposed the Bill, asserting, that the Qualification Aet 'related entirely to the moment of election, and no Wilt*, and it would be impolitic to extend it. The CHANCELLOA of the EXCHEQUER was of bpinion that it would be fitter to reral tht Irish Members' Bankrupt Bill, than to eiteisa it t EnglAnd, where it would art contrary to established] Mr. mom PSON defended the proptiety of the measure, on the regard he had for the honest fame of the House, that no bankrupt should remain amongs them.—Mr. DAVIES GIDDY supported the Bill. The House then divided, when there appeare.l— the second reading of the Bill, Ayes, 2YI against it, Noes, 19—Majority, 3. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on the 7th of April. Adjourned at Half-past Eleven& THE EVENING STAR. LONDON. TUESDAY, MARCH 24. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY Al' ONE ((CLOCK 3 per Ct. Cons. for money 59141—D0. for acc. 594 Spec. Ct. 699--5 per Ct. f.Pcrip j cliff. Exch. Bills 2s. dis. is. pre.—Bonds 21. Sc. prc. The NraEus frigate, (the arrival of which front Buenos Ayres we mentioned yesterday,) has bloiight us intelligence from that quarter to the 4th of Janu ary. The peace between the contending Power: of Monte Video and Buenos Ayres is rigidly observed; but the dissensions occaioued by the arrival of the Portuguese auxiliaries still continue. By the follow. ing letters it will be sten that jealousies also exist among the Spanish troops themselves : " BUENOS AYRES, DEC. 10. " I have now only to inform you that we had a terrible riot here on the 7th instant. •' Since the Pitsidelat (Savudra) who was Colonel of the Pa trician troops, left us to to up the country, Don Manuel Btlgrano has betu appointed Colonel of his (Savaadra's) regiment, at which the men were very much displeased, and were discontented with the whole of their Officer., wishing to choose a Colonel and Ofli. cen for themselves; and in order to accomplish this, they turned the whole of the Officers out of their barracks on the night of the 6th. The rest of the regiments were immediately called to arms, and cannon was placed at each corner of the streets. '1 he patri cians also had cannon placed at the door of their barracks, and at the corner of one or two streets. About ten O'clock on the 7th, the action began : the Patricians fired upon the other troops, which was very soon returned. '1 he battle continued about an hour, when the Patricians surrendered as prisonet's; but what their fats will be is not yet known. About larwere killed and wounded.' " RIO JANEIRO, JAN. 4. " I have received letters from Pomo, Ayres; the new. is, that these is a strung probability of a war between this country (the Brazils) and t.p.tuish America. • • " It was strongly suspected when the Portuguese sent an army to assist Monte Video, that It was the intention of their Government to get possession of that city, and to hold it. Ac cordingly, peace being concluded, the Portuguese troops did not retire, but remained at Maldonado, stating, in reply to a demand that tl:ey %you'd commence their retreat, that they had received no orders to that effect.' The Buenos Ayres troops halted until they were informed by their Government what course they should pursue. What their orders were will be best sees, by the contents of the note I enclose you, on the truth of which you may fully rely.' Extract of a note from a merchant at Buenos Ayres, to his friend at Rio Janeiro, dated Jan. 4, 1812: " Intelligence has been received that the Spanish General Aam s has had an engagement wi.fi the Portuguese troops, and has completely destroyed the party opposed to him; in conse quence of wtich, we are given to understand, that the Govern ment will immedtately declare war against that Power. The p trt is shut, and will remain so till all the reinforcements for Attu is are conveyed across the river. Perhaps the Government will not permit any more vessels to clear out for your port (Rio Janeiro); at any rate, it is extremely probable that no con will be allowed to be exported." The following is an Extract of a Letter from a Gentleman at Buenos Ayres, dated the 25th of January, 1812: " The Government of Buenos Ayres removed Colonel BiL CIANO, a Spanish General, from the command of his regiment, and appointed another Colonel, which the regiment refused to receive, saying, they had no occasion for him, and insisted upon Colonel B. being restored, giving the Government only a few hours to determine, or take the consequence. The Government, however, mustered a sufficient force to resist their rower, and absolutely cut them to pieces." We must conclude by remarking, that there is nothing in this dispute that need involve the two Go. vernments. The Portuguese troops had better with draw : and the Spaniards will not, we trust, see any reason to believe that the Cabinet of the PRINCI RE GENT of Portugal hat boured the designs imputed to it. The last Anholt and Heligoland Mails, among other reports of a doubtful description, mention that Prussia had concluded a convention with France, by which the former Power engages to send her choicest troops into the field against Russia, and as auxiliaries to the French a:my. Yesterday, at two o'clock, a Cabinet Council was held at the Foreign Office. • Lord KEITH has not, as has been stated. left town for Plymouth, but is expected to do so verx A Messenger was yesterd.ty dispatched frorltsissAdd miralty to Plymouth. Sir R. BICKERTON immediately prociods to Ports mouth, as Port-Admiral. PERTH, MARCH 19.—The election of a Member of Parliament for this County took place to-day. Only two Candidates were pill up, JAXI ES DRUMMOND, Es+ of Strath.,ll.ln, and Lieutenant• General Sir THOMAS GRAHAM, of tialgowan, the latter being proposed by Sir PATRICK MURRAY, of Ocbtertyte, Bart. who had been himself a Candidate, but withdrew. The votes were, for Mr. DRUMMOND, 69—for Sir THObIAS GRAHAM, 51—Majority in favour of Mr. DRUMMOND, 18, wbcPwas declared duly elected. RoirßT RAINS/FORTH, Esq. many years • a Magi. aerate for the County of Essex, is appointed one of the Police Magistrates of the Shadwell Office. PAPA AftiLtio Eitta. . • • t A9r4SID IA SHIPPOG I : the JAPAS tIEEALD, CAIVERietle, and Sir Mrs:Ll:till PELTENRY, East-Indiamen ; have atrited safe at Ma .. *as frOM England. The'extra Mips Mcikiritclt, tyitankrilts, acid Mentz ruaseriow, arrived at the Motherbank the 23d inst. The MONARCH left Bengal the 6th September; art rived at Madras the 26th of that month; tilled from thence the Ch °etcher j arrived at the Mattr;tit*s the 17th, sailed from thence the 9th NoVemberj Arrived at St. Helena the 3d January. The NoRTHAMPTON s. , iled heist Bomtiy 21st An. gust, for Madras; where she arrived the 3d Septembei, sailed from thence 20th October; and arrived at St. Helena 3d January. The above ships sailed froth St. Helene, the 21st January, under convoy of his Majesty's ships JAVA and MADAGACAR A FALMOirrit MARCH Si. Attired h's Majesty's brig CRANE, 18 guns, treat Cork.-- The wind being strong fiorn the Westward; some packets may be eipected up tn-morrow. TORBAY. MARCH 22. - - Arrived his Majesty's ships ler:omit, tv.ta, PICKLE, and Stumm!, and-another King's ship a its a fleet bound to Lists - us, &c. They experienced d severe gale on Thursday night) which threatened the loss of the greater pan of them, fortunately not a mast was lost, although most of them iplit their ails: A fleet is now collecting in Tor Roads to join the next convoy for Newfoundland, elpected bete the lint week in April; , Vl.TMOittii, MARCH Arrived the Perseverance cartel trait the tile ti France, having landed prisoners at L'Orietk. She confirms the sailing of the French squadron ; bn hit passage the met with a tremendous gale, itt Which slie catried away her main-top -mast. and yeteived other damage. Also arrived the ship British Army, hl 4 lCeltV IR master, from London for Jamaica. The brig Margaret, J SlrdsON master, for Gibraltar. The ketch Hope, WiLuast BALrobit master, for Gibral tar and Minorca, with loss of foretop-mast: The American ship Arabella, Captain MANSHALLi from Wilmington with stores for this Docklard Tim Danish skip Hero, Captain Beau, from St. Mary's to' London .1 and the Dantzic ship Four Brothers', Cap tain Bosena, for Liverpool. • This latter got ort shore coming into Catwater, but has fertunately been got off again without sustaining much damage. Also ar rived the INTELLIOENT, 14 guns, from Lirtrpool ; and GOLDFINCH, 10, from Corunna. Came up harbour to refit, the ACIIATILS. 18: PORTSMO (Mt MARCH .23. Aitived the JAVA and MADAOASCAr t formal* French frigates, and the Euphrates and Monarch East Indiarnen, from St. Helena, Ste. The Mary transport, Captain Cusimixos, laden with Government stores, is lost it the Cape of Goad .five. The Lzs s is appointed convoy for Curk and the interme diate ports in the Channel.—Wind S.E. DEAL, MARCH es. Atrived, the TREMENDOUS, Havinghitt sli t Of she L'Orient squadron ; the Dontot from off lushing ; and the DEFENDER lugger, alter seeing her convoy site to Portsmouth.—Wind S.E. blows hard: YARMOUTH, MARCH 23. Arrived, the Cantata sloop, Cagtain Toole, frioni Anholt, (with the Officers and cre* bf the Fcy sloop, lately lost off that island) and proceeded for the Downs ; the Barrommti, Captain Hour, from Herr.. Roland; and two Revenue cutters, from a cruise-- Remain, the SOLEIL% Y, HSAIITY; CIIMPOR, RANQUIf and the DLSIREI4 with a tonvoy for Heligoland. Two ships have arrived from Havre with consign ments of 500 bales of silk from that pov. By those vessels letters have been received which state that the - number of licences granted by Bouxesareezeeeds all former periods, they have been sent to all parts of the Continent. The writer further adds, and explains the cause of BONAPANTes generosity,“ Owing," he says, ~ to the great probability of a war, when great resources are wanting to fill the Treasury, the licences will be very productive in point of bringing in large sums from the duty on goods imported by the said licences. This is a mode of commerce which the Emperor always resorts to in such periods. He fur- I ther says; it is likele that a new duty will take place lon the goods bring imported." Intelligence is received that the TIRIMIDSDOOS and POICTIIIts, which were left by the DIANA in pursuit of the L'Orient squadron, have returned to their sta. 'aim off Brest, haying lost sight of it i n thi c k weat h er the second day of the chase. From their taking a N. W. direction, it seems probable that Brest was their destination, and their object in going so , far to the westward as 9. SOi'might have been to I avoid our cruirers. Having got so far, however, to the westward, they would find it very difficult to re gain the French ci ast in such strong easterit winds. 1 Sir RICHARD KING is blockadi ng Sh e Several ports et the Bay with ten sail of the line, a a rd if they 'Weld endeavour to n gain that station, be will be certain to meet them. We understand there is a force prepared to meet chyle if they thould attem.pt to run up Ghat. tel. A letter from an Officer ow board the Weimer, dated nff Brest, the 15th iusteit, states, that the L'Orient rquedron had not entered that port. nor had any accounts of it been received by our squadro* blockading Brest. • The Pore-rim, in the late chute. threw Al her water over-board ; yet withall, could net keep up with the enemy. . Friday the trial of Hugh Idgedia* old, Hogh Mac intosh, and Neil Sutherland, ..ccused ti murders and riots committed in the streets of Edinburgh, on the last night of the year, came on before the High Court of Justiciary. The trial lasted till four o'clock on eaturday morning, and the Jury were to mulls their verdict in the COW* of that afternoon. I'he Terabit was not know*, however, when cot accounts left Edinburgh. w•• • BRUM—To-day there was no Court of Alder. men. The Loxo.klavent, alter inspecting the re turns, ordered the price t f Bread to advance U. pee Peck, which makes the Quartet) Leaf Is. 6d.