Star. — London, England, 1812-03-03 00:00:00

IP -- ~ 'Y _-~ ~ . , 'Oar • k • - dom and activity of the M ag i s t ra t es , tad ems:el:lly , div4ual. 'lt would be answered, that tl . e ;satiation , Pi IRLIiIM4IMIRT PRQCZEDINGS. the Provost. The evil likewise exten d e d t h roug h l efihellifl was chiefly directed against the conseira -1 Ayrsllire. They omit go to the root of the evil, and cy : but where was . the object of A Bill to be found iiptiSE OF LORDS, MARCH S. i alter tbkir policr —this was theaanly efficient method. but in its leading clauses, or preamble ? He WAS Counsel was beard in the Appeal the earl of Elgin against the They must retnrn to she old system under which this sorry to hear an attempt to justify the introduction of Iles. Allan Madsen. Farther hearing on Wednestlay, country had so long flourished, and not destroy the• penal statutes by great names. If there The Exchever ;I.lls Funding Bill wa.i read a third me and gifts of napre bye-their unwise 7. - ts any pleasures. The p re. case in which we should not leek to precedents. or eaMgc.l• sent tin was the last resort of a rash, feeble, acid give up any thing to great names, it wis a *lse like DHRY-LANgdiIIEATRE Jj11.1.. i • ` Lord I.I6LLAND moved Abe se' tend reading-of the Drury- wretc -• ked Government—fearful of their own enact- the pr,.sent. T o j us tify the infliction of dea . b, there • thus+ re hill. merits because doub•ful of their own ability. must b e no aut h or i ty b ut strong necessay. Th e Sta .llor The hike of NORFOLK thought that some farther delay Lord HA RROWBY had imagined, that after the tute-book was stained with sangu;nary laws ;it was Au& to he anawid, that the nature and obj-et of the hill toted diaClipion u hit li had already taken place, there would a stigma on the character of the connti y be more fully invistiaa•ed. Well regulated "Fheatres, he bad no have been no farther opposition to the bill. Nothing looked upon it as such, and apeared ta Its eristenen sloeibt, were highly pi °per in al large cities, and coatrilau . ed not new h a d b ee n poly lode entertainment of the people, but also to the imptovi- .as the staselard of our national character, A Noble merit of their morals. lie had no objection, therefore, to the that had been advanced as to the unwise ,policy of Go- Lord ( Harrowby ) se4e of the mildness with as Melt xnvacur t , merely at a Ain for building a Theatre; but there wtre vernment, Still there was a necessity for this law. An those laws were administered. A phlloscpliCr once iarre poilits in the present till that deserved mature considera- altered policy mot take some time to operate ; and said, that among the Athenian s, to praise the Athe tion. ft night be expedient, in the progress of the Bill through in the mean time, an immediate remedy must be ap- nians was ex tremely easy : but where were we to find At He ,se , to turn their attention to the state of the Metropolis,nd . with. ri garil io its lhearreq, in general ; and to consider th e Inuit- plied to the existing evil. The crime was of the most t h e great evidence of a wild and legislative sprit.--r da , ion aud Tendency ,•1 the monopoly. He slititilil therefore pip- heinous nature and most dangerous teadeecy, and the prevention ? Punishment was the object of our kse die rcs.ponement of the second reading till to- tuorri.ve se n- must be repressed. As`to the assertion that this was laws. If the question war. of the purity of the ad hrbt (t to , attay, March 10.) I Lora SOI.I.AND stated, that the object of the present Bill • the last resort of a weak and wretche e t Government, ministration of justice, he must agree that here we ;nearly woe coextend the time and enlarge the powers for carry- : it ought to be recollected that similar 1 tats in similar 'were unr i va ll e d, - t h at t h ere i s no countr y i n the ring ihe deciel , of tie lOtmer Bill into diva. 'ibis was its grin- cases had been passed tinder the most powerful and world,—that there never was a country, where the eve; snit be saw no reason fi.r the delay proposed by his Noble humane governments ; and be referred as evidence innocent man was so neatly secure of acquittal as *Wend. it 4as of great imrriance to theist concerned, that if the . , , : 0.1 . tos to the several laws passed since the I 2th Geo. ' here. But as to punishment, he knew of ne country At 1 walito pass at all, it should pass speedily. If long delays 1 ` wee ceceei, the Bill might be got rid of by il side wind. li hls ;I. relative to the woollen . and silk m a n u f actu re s .— in Europe—perhaps he ought to speak of it ashrfere eae 4ele'n,lo4 (Altered to any of the details of the i3itl, the Com- 1 They need not be ashamed to be as weak and bloody. the late dreadful revolution—where so mane suffered tee was the pri , pee nice in which to State them. When the las Sir Robert Wall:ole o Lord Hardwieke, and the by sanguinary penishmeatc. It was impossi!e to rainehould be amended in the Committee, some time mid be ! A _ i M arquis of Rockingham. It ought not to be said conceive any justification for the spirit, except in the spitted to slaptc between the eonimittnent and tlit third roa d- • ! that they were harsh or, violent in followingthesys : 1 eonfusinn and bkndi•nee of all principles, or the adop tee; but he sawcorelon_lor delaying the second . . ' 1 . 1,- - 'Duly - . -,utte NORPOLK said, that the ostensible intent of Abe Bill certainly was to carry into effect the proviiism* of the former Bin ; bet fie rathir thought it would be Lund, th;t the ~ n admem went beyond that; and as the second feeding had been plural,' understood to be the pmper stage in which to *amiss the pitnt , phrof at 7 :mature, he should persist in Li. mo *inn Ls delay. • Aftty a few words from Lord HOLLAND of the purport of his former observat.ntis, the question was I ut, and rreparation made inr a divv.inn by the rarlus;on of stransers,.but we understood tip di~iiinn ac ual.y took Oace. . .ea. titt n read a second time, and a motion male. for ittseami•tiog to•morrovr. The Duie of N(MIFPLK opposed this also, and eontelded, that the commit:4l at lead aught to be fixed tor a more Cram day. There was ro good reason for hurrying the Dill in this OMper pernagh the House. The aesaion was not so far adv:n •tells that the INA of the OW Could lae seriously dreaded nieruly fro& at'elay of a few t'ayi. Lord'ElasklND OppoeiNi the delay, and • Ldd ItErizADAIJE worperted at, observing. that "there were eeetaiely•tu.me provitions tea it !hit required comldt•ra'ion. !...‘ Atter a etvi. weeds from the Loan CHANCELLOR, staiin that be hadappreved the eond reading now, because the amend )11111.121r, If any were 'required, might be made in the Committee, It wawegreed that the Bill ohould be eumniitted on 'lluirsday. tem that had all along been pui sped and found ef fectual. Without entering on general principles, hit referred to the authority of Blacksa•nc ; and contend ed that nothing could be found in the book if that eminent Judge adverse to a capital punishritent in a case of this nature. The punishment of death. had nfr , beer , d against offences wher Id 4ten , n enacted against offences where it wou, be really inflicted only in particular and highly ag aravated cases. Our law was mildly administered. 7 • ENT/LATION OF THE 1101 :SF. Lord EI;qKiNE nitived for the appointment of a Commi•tee, je inquire Lao the best means of ventilating ti.e place in which •their I.crdshlps . iajt and adierted to the uncomfortable feeling 1 - Vallch Must be etched, and • wtich he himself 112 , 1 experienced, fro:nitre ego tiernber of ,snfall holes in the floor. One might .'eatch eoldeyets In. 11 pia tha'se in sunimeh, if the chaise were lull of MUM butes; He was the more Dime to this subject, from the exptrienec jte'had had in the Courts where he had long Lord CRENVII4.Ehad no objection to the Convnitte e merely for the puipose of enqu'ry, but at the same time that the :plan titeecemiteeded by Mr. Davy had not us yet had its fair trial. The l'lmolla t i ti llndoubtedly been rendered rasre comfortable - 1/iteellisst been allots ed, 1 The I.OltD CHANCELLOR had the gieatest respect fur !Merl:MO' 'hut treaty Oriels' Lordships %%mild come oh Wed , ar City; att ' d sit With him ro'liear a•Seutch cause, with rtuo holes -SOM. 'that table, all the phi!osophers in the world could hardly Ilorthlaidel4to theilds situation wa's of a very cenifortabk nature. j.ord ) r 1 I.TI.dRAVE had often bliffi red severely, from oppres illieVietit in theMottse; ald of the (we escreMes, he sbeuld,cer _pinky pryer cold to heat. • PI lb CORIS CtiAtICELLOR rer,se ted the Kahle Lord, who was a very rod laWyer, to come and her the Scotch cause, and s thershe'ireenod Pro:sal:ay llt. r his opinion. Ile.Motion was agreed to. •' • ' ROTTINOIIAist FRAME MU. of Or :he complaint generally was, that the guilty escl)- ed, not that tot) much scveiity had been used. In the execution of the present law, the s.irne principle of mildness wouli no doubt be attended to: bit there might l.e cases in which the offence would deserve death; and the capital punishment was necessary, in order to strike terror into the offenders: The Earl of CARLISLE said, that the proposi tion to cna.ct a law subjecting a fellow-creattne to the punishment of death, was one frcni which huma nity shrunk, and on which reason oughttopatt,e._ Crime's; of the most diiietent nature -- . wers. mingled ur.der one punishment ; an I c.icath was to be squally frr cotuptracy and for acts fur whirl! a school boy's whipping would he too leveir. Men were to be hanged lor dame fram, What - rd ! ..ogea .-._ Java:. . a wort, and liov) capable of perversion. What was dania s , in. , 6 NOtliing but necessity clearly proved could justify its frame? The slightest injury to the slightest at of a complicated machinery was to bring • man in pe of his life. This was enough to throw the body 'ef the manufacturing People into despair. Tell them, that if from f. lly or malice a man break any part of a machine, he forfeits his life, as. much as if he had conspired to destroy the whole machinery of the estab lishn:ent,—as much as if he had murdered the mar An `at the machine, and the cnnsequence must be !►orrid. adoption : but where was the prix f here ? What p:Ters—wh:Lt documents had been laid befiire them? Ncne ; they had tnt rely the assertion of the Ministers that there WAS a necessity for this measure, and t!mt assertion only ; unless the accounts in the newsp .pees of distuthances should be considered as proper grounds for that House to proceed upon. Allowing these to be true, how did they know. that the .Magis trates of Nottingham (he meant TtO disrespect to !hem) had done their duty ? How did they knew that the proper means oh detection had been used ? This Bill was, besides, perfectly ineflicient (ot its nwn object, and indeed in score measure subversive of it. How could they expect tiaat those her welt: averse to subject these men to the putishmei:t rf .transpor tation, would bo tP , Thing to subject them to the peualty of death ? There was a grcat deal of feel ng and humanity in the.generality of the people of this coun try on these occasions. It the law, they say, subje:ts a man only to such a punishment as his offence deserves, we will _inform ; but if his life is to be affected, you will get no information frau us.— On every ground he thought the nteature highly (,b7 • - sin the reading of - the. Jer of the Day for the isOrnrnittai riche Nottingham Fame Bill, Lord GRCISVENOIt. rose to move, that the order be ciischerged. After what had already passed, after 'the eyes of the Whit: Secretary cf State had been a aitt4e opengd, he had expected him . to have himself moved the discharge of the Order. lie had expected tli;i for anoth.rieason also--=the decisiun which ha.l been given c:n the night subsequent to the . discussion on the second reading of this . bill, (alluding to . the decision on the Orders. in Council), a decision fa '.vinsgible tea system which had already involved the . ^country in so much di s tres s ; and which would pro kably lead to . a war with America.• The Bill pro posed to . punish Is ith death tho-e who entered a house whether with Prce rr not, and' damageita piece of bee r Aocicing-frame. The measure, htwever, was ctionable. Lord WESTMOItELAND could not see that 'there was any cruelly in the proposed punishment. —4U the statutes for the protection of machinery had the sanction of capital punishment up to this time : it was right to extend the sanction to the pre sent instance, dud the , effect would be to secure the frames, as it had done. the other machinery. Lord GRENVILLE tliought the evil of a deeper nature than Noble Lords were inclined to admit.— The grant came was the bad poeicy which had plunged our mantifictureis into digress. The dis tres&„and the cause were spreading together. It was now that the effect of the paper issue was making it self ft It through the community ; and it was impos sible in any . case to conceive, why the s.iine evils which, had extended or ay ia. 1, so long _. circum stances must occur from time to time. But the pre sent interposition of Parliament was called for, not by the distress of the workmcn, but from. a con s,riricy against maclrn ry ;—which had regn=arly exhibited itself at all times when machinery had been employed to the disuse of manual labour. —They had found Pesnal Statutes necessary for the protection of every successive kind of ma chinery. Hii Lordship now read a passage from Paley, implying that the intensity of punishment was to be adapted, not to the enormitr of the crime, but to the difficulty of preventing it in a society. It was on this principle that a man was hung for stealing a sheep or a horse ; though, in the bare enunciation of the thing, it woeld seem horrible to *hang a man for stealing a she - There were but tven ways of deter .A• SI Z -true.._ ile Men Stile, _ “wvver, ~.._ ash had eateries., -in an excessive issue of paper , • - -eng a - teep- _., . sere s ays se ..._ mininger p al d u es n c i r sl i r p m ti ents on t , o e th ah e s d r is b c y l t er k i m vii i ts i ! t t l l i r e esn ju r d 7ie e, r o a r t e lll tt t e hi: c i c a , sr a w ry old but t i l y rey ma m k i e gi t it &pen upon ole a sh il o ( u )1 11l i not co b u e n a tn tte m nded with iiw tl a te s same Furls n e r v e as p l r ie o r m e i a n s ir t i artful m ty stating the shades of crime, and affixing the sepa. artful, the cunning mote cunning,_ and the tuyete- cause than even the .Orders in Council. His Noble 1 tilbesilifore =Mysterious. - The proper way to conci- Friend (Lord Lauderdale) had imputed the distresri rate punishment. The latter would be scarcely found I itelhit'penele, and to• prevent these outrages, was to the sudden rise and fall of wages by the sudden ' possible. But where w as th e ev il o f t h e f ormer It : teerforeo uses; ; ani one tbisseecount he regretted •.demands for manufactures ; but even where see was the wot:•ing principle of t h e E ng li s h l aw ; an d alit innothiction • Mot the Regent's Cabinet of a No- wages did not fall, ,the excessive issue of paper low- ' there was at least the evidence, that however san- Sete Lard, who, v ?rattier inight be his merits mother ered their real Value. The same m guieary its language mi g h t b e , i ts di scret i onar y p rac - oney could not ;Aspects, was no friend to such a reformation.' He purchase the same quantity of provisions ; and unless lice was mild. The m o d e o f d etect i on was atten d e d i'iniililhave been in despair, had it not been for the there was a-maximum on the price of the necessaries to in a clause of tie Bill. But even if the detection skeesitirtaiithe House of Commons in the case of an of I:fe, the working people must be more and more had been hitherto diffi cu lt, was it to b e sa id t h at t hi s office granted by Ministers, atter having been con- impoverished. even to the nominal receipt of undi. ' Bill would produce no effsct ? Did it not argue an 111017)6rd by i'Cominittee of that House. No decision minished wages. The great manufacturers worked ignorance of human nature to say, that while detec bad ever giyen him so much pleasure. He concluded for foreign markets ; the rise of the prices abroad did eon so as never abs lutely impossible, men would net by cloying, that the Order be discharged. , not•keep pace with the rise of the nominal value of be more afraid of bei ng det ec t e d w h en t h e p un k' s - Ilse Marquis of DOUGLAS stated the question the - currency at home ; and in consequence, they were meat was to be more exemplary, and thus the terror ' to be;'whetLer the punishment of death was really , obliged to tell their workmen that they could nut which the Biti held before them would not be a res • s; try iuthiica•se? apt when it was admitted that mace the prime cost on their materials. The work- traint. Even the smallness of th e m eans o f d etect i on 1 t i milder pitnishmtut had never been tried, the ar- men said, and with not less troth, th a t they cou ld not made itanove important to use t h ose restra i nts w hi c h met appeered‘to be decisive against the severer live by their work ; and thus distress came rapidly we had in our power, and those were to be found in ,penallit. • The evil' here to be remedied 'did no: con- among the most useful and industrious classes of the ter ror. lest in the deft ct Of•the owlish - insist, but in the sects- community. The present system h a d the di rect t en - The Earl of. ROSSLYN argued + that it was not city of Ole criminal. Had the fonder act been put dency of exhausting the resource s of the industrious because some discretion mu s t necessar ily b e l e f t to a . i est nex. rani nl .If it bad not, boiv could they state Dart of the public : this was no new thing to .their Judge, that therefore they were to legisl a te, le av i ng all to his thsc!retion. It ought still to be a qu.stion as that the pusieliment was. intS etual? Nothing could Lordships ; it had been pointed out 'from the begin tre tinseise than en:tains flue extrentity of •to nil% : every step of its progress had been re gularly to how much discretion was to be left to the .1,1,1•4.-. ,o in i ent cases" t f*Minhr offences. When there i detailed, and it was now making its way wi t h acce- The question was put, on discharging th e reser e r 'weSsaso variety in punishment, people would • be' IQ i lerated evil. Was th•s a thing wi t hin p e n a l l a ws to going into a Committee, a n d carr i e d in t h e riegarre. to thinke'Sist there was pogeadatiorain clime— (Rear, I correct ? Were men to be cured of this by the gibbet In the Committee Lord LIVERPOOL unposed sew 1 T.-41*e err! Vas net to ht remedied by laws i and the gsllows ? The Bill might irritate and punish, the emission of the wo r d •s, d amage ," an d the intro- Ake Ws:- i's exiidettranuclitaither 'hap Nottingham !' a n t i inflict miseries dreadful to feeling and hums- duction of others in diff erent parts o f t h e Bill , ' more ~pa %%hell population. was 'driven to thew' teruicious ' nit y ; but it svoul I not stop an evil which resulted accurately pointing o ut t h e ma li c i ous i ntent i on and eositees by the distresses arising from the - unitise po- from the wretchedness into which a dangerous and serious injury. lteldfccryrrtiMent:. They asked tor eel - stein : ere give headlong system bad driven the working-people. H.s Lord GRENVILLE p ropose d t h e om i ss i on o f the . 4 II thespls:lail.liii,Leittelship) by abandoning Ant po- Noble Fr tend ( Lord Harrowby) in quoting a passage words s , person or," which attached the punishment . . IitONEAnOr44I4 40t visit them with eatermituttiOn as a from Judge Blackstone; seemed to doubt whether that to the individual ac t, an d wi s h e d to su b st i tute ot h ers cure for their miseries. In Yorkshire ittid Lancashire great Judge looked on the punishment of death as a applying it solely to theast resulting from conspiracy. tilfee hid .b k en considerable' meetings of people suf. means of prevention, or as the penalty for enormous The LORD - CHANCELLOR expressed himself ,• f z: 11 . of 'tthder'tisle'S.itne dist; essts as • the manufactu. crime. But putting the first point out of question, decidedly against the general application, under the revs of Notibighans. In his own country, top, (scot- W a s the gu il t of this crime of that enormous nature impression, that u n l ess t h e i n diV i d ua l act was as punish.' lan4there had been meeting. of the came descrie. which-required death? The Nobl e Lord (H arrow by) e d as suc h, the Lew would be entirely e va d e d i n , ' tam • 20.G - 123ra , an applieatieu for 1140 4ad been obvicruily combined the individual act With the crime practice. eriadesto thilefigiatiates by .30,060 peppi*-40V.any of conspiracy : but the Bill omitted all, thti intention Lord GRENVILLE declared, in explanation, that eitionAdistusbanse had Wm proxqiitd:by .010 w i se of conspiracy, and alluded only to the au' tithe in-, he iik hod much respect • for their Lordships' Httrst. i - . -.7-4 4 ; .;. :" '-• .. ------.'- : - ' " • . . , .. . II -OCI it .1.1. .. 7 1 • , o impute pc-annal motives of cruelty to my ni L ne ers ; but he would prono unce t h e B ill now be. . ure b r os most sanguinary in its enactments, a g d i n . :rc ag t)te disgrace which ren.lieti from the g. wa dy too great severity of our penal code. After a tew words from Lord IIkoLLA YD, the antced. ffe ent was put and negatived. Lord GRENVILLE then proposed a :koa lr mendment in the next clause. The obj ect oat endment wAs to exempt from the puni.hment 4 th, acts of destruction committed by individu a l s ro p t iv a tt pilite or malice, and to includz only scs it those who tumultuonsly assernSled, and ig wfully umbilici, for the destruction of frame. . orks. It VS'Ab evident, his Lordship observed, t h at itra wai helm a very greAt di(Ftrence of guib ab i anger, and that there Quip to be a coirepu e d i • rence in punishment. . This atrendmeny was negatived. LOrd pitosyEb.log objected to dot ckinse wki e k trade the offtnee gu'lty of felony ) without the ben; of Clergy. Illioprnposed. that 4 fhould he ma de, mistli.mc - Anor4 boiFhable by transportation for fo ur . teen y ears . _Thc Arimenslment was negative 1, And the orignal clause approved. he clause requiring do occupier of any f rame which mil:ht be destroyed, to give informatice toi l et nearest Iqugistrate witliin 'A hours, under penalty of fine and imprisonment, was objected to by L or i CRENtII.I.S, on the ground of the excessive hardship of compelling( individuals w alive their homes an,q e „ ._.___ .. . . .. tion of that horrible principle of making every offence milies under whatever circumstances, fur the p*r p np. against the law punishable by death. Were we about of giving tilt informition required. 'Hi t L 0 ,d4 4 to write in blood the new code for the neiv situation therefiire moved the infection of the qualif t i ng 1,;( 41 1 4 to which we were graduallj :idvatorinle ? In this in- .-.5 4 unles s s uch individual shall assign rev/41)114k stance, we could not punish without frequtntly corn- cause for oothaving 4 , tven the informatics require,{ s+ Mitring the most lleckir.e; offences against humanity. —Accedel tn.. i 'if}( The H. 11 , ~ , s turea. olise then re and the !ripen xis cr 4 , dered to be b-ought up to morrow.—Attilurna HOUSE OF COMMONS. • Tile Vaughan Bridge Bill was read a sewed time,sadorded to be cen•mirted. • ' The Annual Qualification lndemn:ty 1301 was read aim,/ ordered to be real a second awe to-morrow. iel Sir S. ROMILLY brougU tip the Bill for repealing the shg of Ells. which enacts the punishment of death on sqldiere sailors found begeng in the gr een; which was read a Wow ordered to be Ivo d a second dine onThorsday. A person from the West loath Dosk Cplll pan, presented m count of the Compaiti's receipts and ditbur.nAutt. orti o d' h lie on the table. The Irinh Spirits Wareliouseing Bill went through; C. Report ' tee. The ILL. to-mornsv. A message from the I.aeds Informed the lime, Oei had %' the .. • the The wisdom of Legislators was employed in pointing : Lordships _ given Ica:: to Lord Grenville to attend tae Cap out the gradations of e?ime, and making the return ..__ minc e u t t his !l ouse on the' Am Claims; arid alto, tist . 1 they had agreed to the E.schequer Bills funding Bill wai sts always more easy than the progress ; but here, amcndinetns. "To rattan would be as tedious as to o'er," c b Mr. ABERCROMBIE postponed his ;notion for as Attall and the mnment the wog kman had touched upon hie of the Number of Convicts item from the titilki to *May w a s crime, he had incurred the punishment of its cunsum. Navy, which stood Par to-4y. to Thursday. math 11. ! The Irish Population bin was ordered go be recontaikages Lord LIVE R POOL had not heard any Nohle 1 , the isth of ADM - 'the Irish Small Stills Bill went through a Committee. Ile Lord on that side of the House deny that there was Re.,oet was renewed, and ordered to be takea bou farthse mop distress among the manufacturers, but they had dis- drr s etitta on Thursday senolett- . tinctly denied that the distress arose.from the Orders The Report la tilt !MI Covet Home Bid WM read andsgersi wood the All inbred to be read a thud timeurcnormr. in Council ; and it was evident that these Orders _._ .. went AAY PSTMON. w ele blameless, as it had actually happened that the General MATHEW said, he rose foe the purposes* trade had never been more fl ourishing than s ince the log a Pet i t i on Rem the Issisjetants of the courty of iipposel igueli t operation of those decrees. It had happened that at white die hat the bonaus to represent, sod he was prod wag, a late period there had been a sudden excitement of that it "at signed by an malts and dawns at. the P aa P hallial trade—that it had been hillowed by a glut of the mar- c ti ". l2l ,l' ku Prneeseaslis " well as Catholics. He cud illid as A for the seats a kct ; and that, by distri.ss am - ong the workmen.— -- i;„` — e — e --- 011 , time past, tr i Ltheartoi Nothing was- more common in the tours* of things : to po-apone bruiting forward their Petitkin we a resserstua their taints titi alter the restrictiom on the Prie4 Reim the tame events had been continually ecciirring, Krum times in war, sometimes in peace. So long as the ""e. " 4 that hkh r whited.fer Pad" they I°4l 11111° S 4 themselves that . a new bra would comm tare; 'oddly the Pali spirit c f speculation existed among traders , and so wouldite t eat 1 , end ais by tak i ng into his councils a different set of Maims% long as, in this free country, no restraint w a s put upon modes ear to their complaints, which had win any man's use of his money t h ose --,- —. been preferred in vain. Tie restrictions having now cessided . . .. . Apt__ So new era baring been the csaseqtunce thereof, bet the OA,' stiwation of the Government still refratting in Octane 0 4 1/ tame men who had ntaurialy stews thentselles so holtdradll catholic claims, he felt himself bound in duly to bring fume this Pt titton without farther delay, sad to move that it do kill the table. The general Petition of the Catholics would, bee. informod, be now speedily brought forward, and he bpi* Royal Highness the Prince Regent would yet be inductd fah* cline to it a favourable ear, though the Right Hon. Gaither? opposite (Mr. Perceval,) had told the House, that if his Rsl4 Highness should do so, he (Mr. Perceval) would take op ha and make his bow. lie (General Mathew) hopnl, howeetr, the Catholics would remain firm and united, —that they "perseveringly persist in urging their well-founded clams; 1 they did, be had no doubt lust their noble efforts mad ullireslo be crowntd with success. tor his own part, he ileclarAdie when that great question tame to be discussed in t x Wine, bi should exert all the power he possessed to procure for it theme favourable i:..ue,—he would omit no exertion in that Hesse el of w hi c h - rinostitution wuutd hint to is 4-1 out of it, ... . the cols.,— permit -- would 1.-ave no stone unturned to accelerst., as far a lo Mai lifi' the tlownfal ot . thest weak and intolerant men. 'Lie safety ef the country absolutely retin.reil it. The future property d Ireland depended on the etiumriprion of the Crlio'ica. ileitis of Ireland 0 ould be tidlowed by the ruin of Em,land i led Ps ruin of Enaland involved the destruction of the saaolc Ulla Empire. Haying said thus much, he would not then troebkllll Howie farther than ti.• move, that the Petition be broerht eft 'the Petition was then read, and ord, red to lie ou the table. Alit. watt.sir. Mr. BANKES moved the (rider of the day tip . Mr. Walsh to appear in his place. Mr. THOMAS SKELTON, one of the Messengerlif the House, proved, that on Friday last, he sent Mr. Walsh, personally, with an order to attend it'll place this day. 'the Suft.lisANT informed the SPEAKER, who Cott' . municated the same to the House, Oat a medico Gentleman was in attendanoe on beh alf of Mt. Wskihs who was ordered to be called io. Mr. C. Reyxot.os, Surgeon and Apothecarb rr peared accordingly at the Bar. in Amara to Ills questions put to him, he stated himself to be a' quainted with Mr. W alsh. He had beeu cilkil gra art to attend him on Saturday last. He had bees Int l: habit of attending Mr. Walsh some years art n. t latterly, till he was called upon to :mead WS Saturday. H • had last seen Mr. Wal•h about"' hours ago." He ( Mr. Waist) was incaFaVe d t-nding, from the state of his mind, railer drain bodily indisposizion. He thought there was to hope that Mr. Walsh would be able to stile within a little time. Ac present he laboured ti t mental derangement. Some few years ago, item: seer. Mr. Waish e at which time he .ippont 4 l ° it mentally deranged. According to los ludg tnet t eras probable att in about. el fortnight Mr• vt ,7 i „ would be able to attend in his place, sounJ ill Bell e and mind. He could not positively say wbet hr La not the apprehension arising from ant ()icier to a...slaT that House would again reduce him to, the gat which he was at present. Mr. Walsh had been ref much affected by the • apprehensions rais ed b y der to attend in his place which had been sonti al l him. When speaking on the subject, be (mr• iv • was so much artated, that he could ogIT Va l a° Ka MO sei of • j: easii lON le * for J io s taw wu the vial err tpp 111111 VOC 110 I star 6 kg indi left WOL .. *CO 110,11 1 the Po. au ler t. tbi GO 'O3l , Si. U to to Oh 311 so k to: 1,4 q .4.1 .k • c