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before the time of Lady Ellenberotighis unfortunate connection he thought no man could look at the evidence who was in the pos session of common sense and doubt that adultery had been proved. There had been some negligence on the part of Lord Ellenberough, bat perhaps only such as the existing forms of society excused, or even exacted. But beyond this the evidence proved nothing calling upon the house to refuse the relief which the law al. lowed in such a case. On the contrary, the evidence had most sa tisfactorily proved Lord Ellenborough's Haim towards his wife. The only part of the evidence which mold be mad* the ground of even presumptive and imaginary miscamkut an the part of the noble lord was that of Miss Steele's evidence, whin the muscatel Lord I:Denbo:laugh as having laughed vbs. she Naiad what she considered an approach to levity in the mantises of Lady E ll enbo. rahßut the evidence of that lad peeved that the LAO with ; Lord Bilitobasongh met that obseevagon was not a lough which could be esnairead into an approbation or an indifference to her conduct, but as that which arm ben a mind so confiding as never to entertain as Wm of suglids• or dishonour. He did not think that in the whole of the 'Aims them was the slightest ire. putation upon the character of the nobb mmepleinant, and be would therefore vote for the Bill. He would not assent, upon visionary and presumptive grounds, to inflicts uthetendal injury by refusing the relief which it was intended to give. Mr. It. GRANT maintained that the case derived all its lamer. tance from the fact of Its not having gone through the searching ordeal of a jury and a court of law. He thought the house was bo u nd to see that that deficiency in the ease was made up as far as was in the power of any of the parties before it granted relief. In a court of law, the husband must prove that his own conduct had been of a certain description before he could obtain a remedy. In inquiries before that house, the husband alone could supply such evidence as would enable the house to judge of that fact; and if they were not prepared to open a door to a most frightful relaxation of principle in the higher cbma, they must insist upon the produc tion of such evidence as would lead to a moral persuasion in their minds that the same evidence would have procured a verdict in fa. tour of the noble lord in a court of law. This was the principle which he thought they were bound to act upon, and as no such evidence was in their possession, be found himself under a moral incapacity to support the measure before the house. Dr. LUSHINOTON said that he could not in justice to him. self and to all the parties concerned, consent to give a silent vote upon this question. The duty had been cast upon him as Chan. Mier of the Dioeese of London, to pronounce the sentence of divorce sought by Lord Ellenborough in the Ecclesiastical Court. All be would state with reference to that sentence was that the facts laid before him were such as that no Judge could examine them and re fuse to grant the sentence at once. There was not one fact which excited the slightest suspicion of neglect, or ill.treatment, or of col. lusion, or any kind of connivance in the whole of the evidence laid before him. But he had now to deal with the question as a Member of Parliament, and to form his opinion upon new evidence un connected with his; former decision, and he believed that he should do so with a mind divested of all other impressions and pre conceived opinions. He wished that the question had been al together so treated, and that the house had looked calmly and dis passionately to the merits of the case alone. But he would boldly and openly assert, that the general unpopularity of Lord E. had prejudiced his casein the consideration which it had received at the hands of the house, and that that, and not the peculiarity of the case itself, had caused the unusual attention by which the progress of the bill had been marked. (Cheers.) He 'mew that every . member had done his bat to divest himself of such feelings in form. ing his opinion and giving his judgment upon the question ; but in spite of that he could see that they had their influence in the pro tracted discussion and critical examinations of evidence which had taken place. (Cheers.) There was no man who felt the unpopu larity of Lord Ellenborough more strongly than he did; and when he it applied himself to a consderet of the evidence, he tasked himself to free his mind from all such prejudice, so that he might come to an honest and fair conclusion, and the result of that was, that he honestly and censciendously thought Lard Ellenbo rough entitled to his divorce. In the whole of the evidence there was not one word which imputed to Lord Ellenborough cruelty, con nivance. or collusion of any sort. What, then, were they to expect in the nature of evidence 'to entitle a party coming before that house to his relief ? Had they ever required more In any other case? And if not, why was Lord Ellenborough to be selected as an exception to all the other parties who had applied to the house for the last twenty divorces ? He contended that they were bound to consider the conduct of Lord Ellenborough towards his wife, in reference to the usages and manners of high life, ac cording to which it was impossible but that Lady E ll .mborough should - have had those opportunities of avoiding his observation which had been devoted to so unfortunate an end. The only am biguous sentence which occurred in the whole of th e evidence, as to the conduct of Lord Ellenborough towards his unfortu nate lady was that in which he was stated to have met a remon strance of Miss Steele's with a laugh. But it was impossible for any man to look at the whole of that lady's evidence upon the point and not ace that the smile with which Lord Ellenhorough met that observation was the language of a heart overflowing with confidence and affection. The construction which had been put upon it was, in his opinion, a construction which would occur to no upright and honourable mind. If the conduct and actions of all men were to be tried by such tests as those, who would be safe front impute. dons of the vilest desetiption ? (Hear, hear.) The honourable and learned gentleman then argued against the doitrine advanced by the honourable member for Inverness (Mr. R. Grant) as to the necessity of the house calling for evidence of the husband's conduct, where there had been no trial. In the first place he tub upon himself to aver that, for the purposes of getting at fix truth of the facts, and o f t h e husband s conduct, such aisle sere almost always useless. He spoke from experience when he tail this. In most cases the party against wthe proceed. iris were instituted made no defence, in consideration that he was bound in honour not to divulge what had passed between him and the wife ; and in this manner the real facts of such cases were seldom brought out. But, what could be said for the justice of denying a husband relief, because the party who had Injured him was beyond the reach of the law ? He had been but toe familiar with the de tails of all the cases which had come before the house within the last fifteen years, and be could undertake to say that there had never been one, even where the circumstances were ten thousand times stronger against the husband, In which there bad been so complete and sifting an examination. (Hear, hear.) To him the result of that examination had proved that no man could conscientiously refuse the remedy claimed by Lord Ellenborough at the hands of the house. Upon the state of the law and the consequences to which it led in these eases, he fully agreed in every word that had fallen from his honourable friend, the member for Limerick. He felt with hint the degradation which it brought upon that house, when he saw the full attendance created upon such occasions by that vales of putient cutiosity—(h ear hear,) which was ever on the watch to my into the domestic affair s' of private individuals. Would to Goo that this 'night be the last of such exhibitions by which the house should be degraded in the eyes of the country—(hear, hear.) Ile :rusted that this was a branch of the law which would be reformed, .seed that its place would be supplied by one which afforded equal relief to the rich and to the poor, to the male and to the female. With the single exception of a ease in 1801, there never had been An instance in which divorce on the ground of adultery had been conceded to a female by that house. The hon. and learned gentle inan concluded by defying any man to show a tittle of evidence in the whole of that which had been submitted to the house, that could justify a refusal' of the measure. Lord L GOWER rose to congratulate the house and the country spot, the bold and unanswerable truths by which the true character of the question had been placed before them by the hon. and learned gentleman who spoke last. He had grapple with the arguments of th e hon. and learned member for Inverness, and shewed them to be wholly untenable. But what gave him still more satisfaction was the direct manner in which the hon. and learned_gentleman had exposed the cant and sophistry by which the bill had been opposed in other quarters. He could not but think that some doctrines which they had heard in that home respecting the treatment of their feet. aer s in life were better suited to some southern or eastern climes than to the more liberal customs with which that sex were treated amo ngst us, and which he could not but think were also the best safeguards of their purity and honour. (cheers.) Regretting as h e did the time which had been occupied upon this topic, he was so fully sensible of the advantage of getting rid of such examinations, that he hoped the discussions to which it had led would ultimately produce an alteration of the law. (hear.) Mr. THANT denied that he was influenced ip his decision upon this bill by any prejudices hostile to Lord , He had c 4 : 11 the honour of any acquaintance with that sad wild not therefore act from any personal feeling ; but be thought that the conduct of the noble lord was proved by the evidence to have bees such as did not entitle him to the relief which be slight, The Marquis of BLANDFORD opposed' the Bill upon the ground that, in his belief, no tw e l ve men would have given, ei ver dict in Lori Ellenborough's favour in a court of law upn such evi. ` 1 1 :! 1 " ere had been a dd uce d to the Aimee. That evidence bad else. rtt: strong impression on Ms mind that there lied been collusion l,r the parties to obtain, a dOyoree Id not, wl o tt but aotootut. I„. ' %Team' at t h e i r bar to allaesla hilarailik 144 Mika"- gh ? lie thought that.. by . boo. to suck 811144 / - the f 441"1e 41"le had deleribfd Ilatafaaa y bee csedie—eced u" of w hich desafiptitil orated note bit iby tbe.allirtod 'Beers or those against w he re it wan tilvactad.s.by /swing aw with out protection, and mimed to every species if terepension, L ad kilenborou g h h ad neg ected, abendtmed. Pad es ad his wife_, °l o ‘ l was therefore not entitled to • remedy fot akitirAidLidi btlied ° L f 701 upon himself. With etch impressions-sveLhje l mipik be nu s. tl not support the further progress of the he GEORGL CLERK coutentled that Lord E ll enborougb la n done all that could with justice be required of kips ip chat `.before .w that H ouse to seek a rem 4 edy , the mum peessist . of m• It was monstrous. to say the, 111 . Valdk *OW la such "iihation was to bring forward evidence of his own innocence. AU the domestics In Lad Ellembiougleo !telly had hew ready for examination, and Mr. Law and WS &oh had given the most satisfactory oviduct of the mama MMus* with which the Noble Lord hod tooted his solhetonois Leidy, in momenta and' under cironmumeres when they met have been of their guar& Han hobo whims hod boo wanted, it was for the R illembee Ise Imams to have examined the witnesses when they were biro the Shwa. All the evidence which had been taken fully that dies Noble Individuals, before the time of Lad 's ashrtunate connection with Prince each had =go. tee " of the utmost harmony and alliedem Yet, in this, the Noble Marquis opposite bad dem* proper to say that Ludy El enberough had been neglected, shothasd, sod sacrificed by her husband. He called upon the Neils Marquis to show upon what part of the evi. duce he was jusdhd ha staking such a charge. The het was that the truth of the cons aided no ground for such impaiadons, which had grown out eta hal osimplomoy to blast the eissedur of his No. ble Friend. Every elle moat have seen the miaow in which this ob ject had been puma by th e public pewee, Al* hi the last two months had issued bog arfleW open the quid= ea every day when It was appointed to be ellhomeed in Padieuent. This was done from none but what he trusted was the iingstant motive of prejudicing the minds of Members against the truth and justice of the ease. It done were no other Mama of the kind conduct of Lord Elhohoosogb towards his Lady, her own letters, written under circunalermses when her a pressiuw could only have arisen from the fauns of her heart, f u lly established the point. With regard to the aßegal neglect of his noble Mend, it so happen ed that, In the year IR* be was appointed to a high office in the state, which necessarily required the devotion of a great deal of his time to its duties. But wu he on that account to prohibit his wife from the enjoyments in which be could not share? On the con trary, he acted the part of an indulgent husband, who placed un bounded confidence in bee honour, and then It was she fanned that unfortunate acquaintance with Prince Schwartunberg which led to her ultimate ruin. As the law now stood, it wits impossible they could refuse to pole this bill without fixing a stigma upon the cha racter of Lord Ellenborongh which it could not deserve, if they be lieved the evidence, upon which they were bound to act. Mr. MONCK was fully sensible of the necessity of the strictest investigation in all cases of this nature which had not passed the ordeal of • jury : but be thou g ht there wan o6im in the evidence before them which imputed misconduct to Lord :==borough ; and although there might not be very satisfactory evidence to die con. Crary, yet he could not, upon the absence of evidence, consent to in flict punishment. Colonel WOOD said, be wu anxious to address the house for one minute, for the of bearing his testimooy to the excellent conduct of Lad enborough as a husband towards his former wife. He was enabled to say this from their having married sisters, which was also the reason why his right hon. friend (Sir H. Hardinge) had pushed himself so forward in the business. They knew what Lord EllenbOrough's conduct had been towards his first wife, and thought themselves bound :in justice to come forward and represent it. He could not ague in the doctrines which had been laid down for their conduct as En glish husbands. He did not think that their wives deserved or re quired to be watched or suspected. He thought the best way to keep them pure and chaste was to behave towards them with kind ness and affection, but remembering that they were English women to in their honour with unbo u nd e d con fi dence. He saw no: theslightest ground for opposing the bill. F. OSBORNE expressed his regret that while acting in their judicial capacity so many bon. membersaboald think it neces sary to give their own evidence In favour of the bill. Upon costal deting all the circumstances of the case, however painful to him, be should vote against it. The house they divided upon the question for the third reeding— Ayes Noes lg . • • .. Majority in favour of the bil1.. On the re.spening of the gallery, Mr. HUME was addressing the house, and complaining of the remarks which had been made upon his conduct with .sped to the Bill. He had been reprobated as having acted fres motives of hostility towards Lord Ellenborough, a course which he thou ht was not warranted by the rules of the house, and which was totally undeserved by him. He was surprised to hear his besserable friend the member for Limerick say that he could not undlastand the construction of that man's mind who differed with hi n I l i= Mon upon this subject. But the honourabl e a nd keens* (Dr. Lushington) had said that the conclusion to which it (Mr. flume) bad come upon the evidence, was one that no ap t or honourable mind would have a rri ve d a t. H e tea shat seled such language and imputations as these was uncalled iler and unwar. rantable. The hon. and learned gentleman had said that those who voted against him must aeoeweiiy do so from unfair and dishonest motives, and that they did it on account of the unpopularity of Lord Ellenborough. Now he knew nothing of the unpopularity of Lord Ellenborough. If he was unpopular be bad never heard of it before, and therefore could not be prejudiced by it. The right hon. baronet (Bir H. Harding.) bad likewise charged him with a want of decency and of common sense. (A laugh.) He thought this was not to be borne. He appealed to the house whether, whatever might be his opinions, he did not a l wa y s express them: with decency.— (Hear.) As to sense he had little enough of that, GOD knew—(a langh)—but in what he had to say, be always expressed himself with a proper regard to the decency required in that house. Then another hon. baronet had said that there was a false and foal conspiracy rilthe noble lord. Who were the conspire's!!! Was he one ? ed upon the hon. baronet to answer thlist questions. He had never exchanged a ward with any person whatever out of that house upon the course he bad t ho ught it his doty to take. If they were to have discussion at all, he called upon the house to laz eir w t he e t do ber m members should have motive s attributed to them which never uttered or thought of. If so there would be an end to all of debate. Dr. LUSH INGTON said he should not have thought it within the power of human misapprehension that be Mudd have been so misapprehended as he had ban by the hen. niembie, and still leas did he think it possible for any man's sentiments, opaben in plain and honest language, to have been so directly led. If members were thus to be called urea le tbe simplest statements in order to avoid the misigpshooka at die Mb representation of such minds as that a the blameable then he thought they had better at once have a writer at the table to take down the words of every hominids member, so that they might be read until they were underellad. It was true that he had alluded to the unpopularity of lard Ellenborough, and when the honourable member stated that be had never before heard of that unpopularity, he must confess that he could not give the most entire credit to that statement. At all events, if the hoa member had not heard of it, he might depend upon it that he was the only man in that house who had not.— (Cheers.) What he said was, that although the unpopularityof Lord Ellaborough had created a prejudice in the minds uf hen. mem ber against his ease, yet that he knew every hon. member of that house had done his best to divest his mind of that prejudice before pronouncing his judgment. So far then he had been misrepresented by the hon. member. But when he came to attribute to him such a sentiment as thee any member who did not vote with him must be influenced by unfair and dishonest motives, he must say that that was absolute invention. Of this in justice to himself he was: bound to complain, and to hold it up to the reprobation of an honest, honourable, and candid Sir H. HARDINGE was of that the house had very seldom cause to complain of the steam fee Aber. deen's powers of invention, whatnot deify Might do of his Ms. representation. Be would assure the boliglikliAllki 410 er respect he entertained for his intellect not eat=, its, exercise as a moralist ors learned doctor in the laws, in of which characters had the ben. member gained much dallied. in the course of the. present discussion. It natures thalkalqd called in question both the decency and common sense of pipieig of the hon. member's conduct upon it, but he did not queitisee decency in the light in which be bad taken it. The hon. moldier thought it necessary to the srappeet of his argument to say OR married women never denied main conneetions•to this bailie when they were well treated. This was an allusion whidalill-4- scribed as indelicate and indecent, and which be still thempt deserving of that description. The hem gentleman, in the course of their various skirmish's, mu have Mud that he was always prepared to maintain any thing be bed advanced, if he thought Ws 'aright, and, when he did not think so, to admit it. Re could assure theMasurable number that what be had now said he meant to maintain. Me. S. &ICS express& his. madam hope that thiediscussion would leave web an impression en the minds of the house is lusd to a very_evelj rn ematiment, *p law. lb: W. 11 , ? sed ienotered In the hope that no more soh seems as this MI would be permitted to Megrim the hors. Ile had son. the ummat.shisesseme and divest the cruel situation I..vbkh that hlgitly,reepoehle lady. Ws Sus* had been placed at their lor. Ude"' the neM absolute necessity had mama for the mainland= to which' that lady had bon sub jected, he could spied Isla nno w tilstala, thin as a want", she. ntinabla, O• ss : A O.lt e = ""i rrti hnII 01 " • bera-kberdien: li gio n h mo at - ha &IT aa i ta I staid ifeastitasi, free OW 1101111111110Vil teirPli• *in else pr • • , deem that that If they wens be formed upon to • the evidence, be could euly say also must attributed eh, extraordinary constitution of the Hon. Member's mind, for they' were opinions in which no other man could be found to concur. Mr. HUME—." I rise to say, Sir, that these observation are vety impettiniat."—(Chies of " Order.") Mr. aan WOOD said, that as he was of those who went out of the house on the divides upon the third reading of the Bill, he begged to say) that he was not induced to do so by the unpopu larity of Lad Ellenbarough. He had never beard of that unpopu larity before. He did not know what unpopularit aleas. He should like to know whether it was meant that the lord was unpopular with the house or the country, or whether it wee that he was unpopular with the ladies. He should think it was not that he would now be unpopular with the ladies, because within four.and twenty hours alter the passing of this Bill he would be at liberty to marry another wife. Sir H. HARDINGE sae to order. He must protest against the inundation of lash -dada% taus, and atrocious calumnies. (Cries of "Osier,)—ss dig an am to charge the Hon. Alder man with uttering hakes end ataidous calumnies. He called the Hon. AMman to coda because he knew such calumnies were chadated la NNW palladia, and he thought the Hon. Alder- Me to 'woo dism. Mr. A WOOD NM he really was not aware of the existence of the calsamlsis to which the Right Hon. Gentleman alluded. Now was ft poise& that a Minister could be so un popular ?—(a laugh.)—He gave an honest vote upon the ques tion, without knowing an thing of these calumnies, or inquir-' ing whether the Noble Lied was popular or not. He hoped he should boo no more of such Bills. That, however, could not be, for be would soon have occasion to bring a hill himself into the house--end In hoped that after that the House of Commons would never again be Judges in such a case ; it would be better to have them beard before another tribunal. They might be agreeable enough to young men, and to some middle-aged men too, but there were many many others who would be much better phased not to hear them. 81r H. HARDINGE said, whey he used the words atrocious calumnks he did not mean to imply that they were uttered by the hon. alderman. He alluded to gross libels which appeared in the public prints. Mr. AkL WOOD said, he never read the articles alluded to. Mr. CHOKER said, he merely rose for the purpose of calling the attention of the house to the state of the law generally, as it re. gaoled matrimony. There was one law for England, another for Scotland, and in Ireland there was no law at all. (A laugh.) The law of divorce partook of this diversity whisk existed in the mer rier law. He implored members to bear in mind the importance and necessity, now that these countries were united, of placing the marriage law on some intelligible and uniform principle. The bill was then passed. REEL Mr. CALCRAFT brought up the report of the beer committee. He should on Thursday move for leave to bring in a bill founded on the report, and should then explain the nature of the measure he meant to propose. On the motion of Mr. B. CART re, a return was oulered of the sums expended in building at Yeovil by the victualling department. Mr. HUSKISSON presented a petition from the licensed victual lers In Liverpool against opening the beer trade. Ordered to lie on the table. The same right hon. 1112staza presented a petition from a per son In Liverpool, stating that he had invented a new soap, and a botanic oil for the growth of the hair. He complained that these articles were consi.ered as drugs, and that he was charged stamp duty accotdingly. Mr. BRIGHT expressed a hope that the new stamp act would be brought in before the holidays. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he intended to propose that tomorrow the house should resolve itself into a ootn. mittee on the stamp duties. He would then propose the printing of the new schedule. Mr. HUME said the old duties should be printed in one column and the sew ones in another. Mr. BRIGHT thought the whole act should be printed and be laid before the bones previous to the holidays. The petition was ordered to be printed. ILXCHILQUiII BILL& OR the =do of Mr. Husztesom a return wee ordered of the maw of bilk in the beide of the Bank, exclusive of dellekney The right hon. moved also for various ream ouremed with Loofas Lord ILANDFORD peemeed a polies from a person in Ath. lanel Prefig ha tst mono WOK he made et the number of electors in thee The eemelrelde Lod peseented a pedalos from Si. Leotard's, dbeee He* posybg Mann and retteadrosat.—Ordered to be' priors& PRIVATZ BILLS. Woad O'GRADY presented a reddest bum a Mr. Blake, eon. pbdabig of the expense amending private MW.—Ordered to be Mated. COALS. Mr. S. RICE presented a petition against the Coal duty from the pariah of St. Audlan's, Dublin. The same Hon. Mhirn ea presented a petition from the weavers of Limerick, complaining of distress, and one from the Burgh of Ayr, in Scotland, against the renewal of the East India Charter. The hon. member presented six similar petitions from alma parts of Yorkshire.—Referred to the committee. The same Hon. 111E31/E1 presented a petition from the epocha caries of Bandon against the Dublin Corporation of apothecaries.— Ordered to be printed. HACIENZY COACHIS. Mr. C. PALLSIER presented a petition from a stage coach pro prietor complaining. as we understood, of the present regulations and mode of licensing coaches. Dlr. WARBURTON thought it was a monstrous regulation to prevent coaches from going from one part of the town to soother, unless they started from a particular place. Mr. HUME said 10,0004 a year might be saved by getting rid altogether of the Commissioners. Mr. MONCK thought the business of hackney coaches ought to be thrown completely open—Ordaed to be printed. The hon. NBMBlllipresented a similar petition from George Green... Ordered to be nted. Sir J. WROTTESL Y said he should, on du 13th of May, move fors Select Committee, to inquire into the salaries of the Commissioners of hackney coaches, and into the state of the hack ney coaches in the metropolis.—(Hear.) CILIYINAL LAW. Mr. W. SMITH presented a petition from certain Dissenters of the neighbourhood of Finsbury-square, praying fors mitigation of the Criminal Law.--Ordered to be printed. aILITISM WINKS. The Hon. 'lmam( also presented a Petition from the Dealers in British Wines, against the present system of licensing, as it af fected themseives.--Ordered to be printed. Mr. BATTLEY presented a petition from the learned victual lers of Beverley, against opening the trade in beer.—Referred to the committee. Lord TULLAMORE presented three petitions from various individuals concerned in the corn trade, against the issue of money to the (hand Canal Company.—Ordered to be printed. On the motion of Mr. A. DA WSON, various returns were ordered connected with the expenditure of the ballast office at Dublin fa repairs at the north wall. USURY LAWS. On the motion of Mr. P. THOAIPBON, the bin he altering the usury laws was read a first time, and ordered to be read a nosed thus on the 26th of April. 30/11:1W. TAMIL Mr. H ERRIEB prossntod a petition from John Wsaxwell, of Warminster, against the truck system.—Ordered to be printed. TOIACCO. Idr. Alders= THOMPSON wished to know from his right hen. Mend (tho Chancellor of the Exchequst), whether he meant to Form any Armin Yt. the resist Wise* duty as it regarded stem and swims mhos, g esd whit* the her was to continuo in its poloist AM, as it vegiuded tibias yetis in Ireland. The to. ham imp warn mum of twilit sweiftii*n. On 1,0001. worth ot totem, tim Amyw; r e a = Mon 10,0Q0I. Mr. W. BMITIC sold Fe upon forma occasion, aof them him the tobasal mossitemrsos at - Norwich, complaining of their bless is cooseqsiososethe alteration of the duty in 1824. Be unsold their awe would Mt eissidsmod. The .011dR1110111&011 d the EXCHEQUER said a modin tLeit~stad distiratit the seldeet alluded to by the lassourakio gen (llli. Wraith.) &sty Treasury Hard which rat dna lank "PI 'POWt► that the peat* from wham. dm hen. grads: nun and * ranntioar for Southwark ( Idr. C. Culetra) irawarrad padieei ilea iiiraiddied to oomponoiraon. It waist* !di :::rl,2olWMWPWWAttyparaufaskarimaimmed Nifelt to taboo°, grown In Ireraisd, thou* propraii an fag*, krat dim =Nat. ed in the 'walk papers. What he wished to know was, whether his Majesty's Government Were made acquainted with this project ; estondly, whether it wm communicated to the= directly or through the interiention of any Foreign Can't ; whalemlt was the sponta neous act of Portugal, or the result of is .ras ; and if the lat. ter, whether that =sedation was carried cm by Ittd directly, or through the interval - Hon of tusieeher and what ? The CHANCELLOR if ESCHEWER said his tioble Mend 'Hada se ilammue • ihs E m e the English papers, and which WM latai Sim A ' He read the docu. meat to Ake Ida !slit Mimi ' hut, up to the present moment, the Orrisroot, Id aleiliawludie of such a document, et of any heads' ariss=sed. =as answer to the first (Fes. don of his reeldeadmi ft umeassary for him to make any observation epos thesithseqiialtes. Nerethe conversation droNed. Lituassuro POOR. Lord NUGICNT sac to sum for leave to befog in a Bill pet the subject of whisk he oodua. It was one that deeply affected the farmers rut* lamas ef the country. The present law as it related se pupas, bat* abet of degrading them in their own (*amoeba. The oblige spinet which his Bill should be direct. et' was what wan called the mead system, that was Ahe substitui run l of Parochial relief ter fair and adequate w es. The practice took such a variety of *epee that it was t to deal with the mon. strove evil. He of be ' ht the application of a remedy. He was wady amisildia r t bythe labours iheai i sic:in ' of two committees, eat i lwbkh at la 182& In one parish ia Sussex,it was hyammetktie HMO in consequence of this system, wages were reduced isabqpares a day for ablebodicd men. With shame he must acknowlei, Chet to some parts of Buck inghamshire able-bodied lama= at asses than three shillings or three shillings and six pesos a week. It was to the honour of ttie peasantry so reduced, that the adeodur of Buckinghamshire was last Assizes lighter than for many previous years. He lately attended the sessions In that county, and it was painful to see young able. bodied men complaining that they could procure neither fire net food, and women leaving with reluctance the warmth of the sessions house to return to a cheerless cottage. The overseers, when ap pealed to, said it was impossible they could, under the circum stances of the country make any addition to the poor rates. The bill he should propose would give to magistrates the power of grap. piing with the round system, and enable parishes , that may be so disposed, to get rid of It. It would not be obligatory unless two. thirds of the parish agreed to adopt it. The bull would proceed upon the principle of encouraging free labour, and leaving compe tition open. It would not perhaps apply so well unless in parishes where the round system prevailed. The noble lord concluded by moving for leave to bring in a bill, to enable parishes to make pro vision for the better employment of the labouring poor. Mr. BICKFORD spoke in favour of the Bill generally. In the case, however, of & small farmer who cultivated his own land, or who had many sons, he thought persons so circumstanced should be exempt from the operation of the Bill. The present practice of em ploying great numbers of people breaking stones on roads was very injurious. Mr. R. COLBORNE did not see that the Bill would be pro ductive of any great good, as it was not obligatory. All measures having Ibr their object the regulation of the Inge' of labour, did more harm than good. The fault was not in the law as it now stood, but in the way in which it was administered. After a few words from Lord Jost; RtrasiLL, leave was givcrr to bring in the Bill. TOBACCO. Mr. C. CALVERT said he was not in the house when a quer. don was put to the Chancellor of the Exchequer by the hon. alder_ man (Thompson) on the subject of tobacco. Be trusted, when he brought forward his motion, he should be able to show that those individuals, on whose peti tion his motion was founded, were fully entitled to compensation. Mr. S. RICE, in the absence of his right hon. friend (Sir J. Mackintosh) obtained leave to bring ins bill to indemnify parties who suffered by the insolvency of Gilbert Ricketts, registrar of Madras. After a few words from Mr. ASTELL, the bill was read a first time. SUPPLY. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the order of the day for the further consideration of the postponed resolutions of April 2. Mr. BRIGHT said he wished to ask the right hon. gentleman whether the bill for oonsoliditing the assessed taxes would be ready be ore the holidays. The law authorising a composition far the assessed taxes would expire in October, and it might be &source of serious inconvenience if the public were not informed in time whether that law was to be renewed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was so much occupied with the Stamps Bill, that be could not now give a direct answer. Re should, however, be prepared, perhaps cantor row, to give a more positive answer. With respect to the compost. don of the assessed taxes, the public would be inform e d u p on that subject in sufficient time to prevent any inconvenience. The Resolutions for the repair of Dock yards being 99,0001. that for the cost of auk= 210,0001. and *for the Transport Service 200,0001. were then agreed to. The Resolution ratting the pay of the Officers of the Ord nance office being put, Mr. HI/ME said the Wore( the Muter. General should be re. duped to what It was in 1001. He hoped the revenue would fail off34/00,01101. this year. That would farce ministers into reduction. Col. SJBTHORP hoped the revenue would fall , of to double that amount. He should be always ready to support any reasonable plan of redaction proposed by the member for Montrose. Mr. TWIT said the member for Montrone mimed. to periods when they endeavoured to carry on was merely by their money. .They soon found their error ; and he hoped the country would never spin be dependent on foreipcm far the support of their honour in Semi Sir A. GRANT brought up the report of supply. beiOn the moieties relative to the civil ferrite of the ordnance Put. HUMB said he saw no reason for keeping up the powder mills at Weithges ice.ab What was she use of manufacturing powder and selling again at a loss Mr. PIRCEVAL said they were still manufacturing powder at Waltham aidley, %It they were not selling it. Mr. HUMS said that powder and - other articles would be sup. plied better ed deeper by contract. Mr J. WlO LEY said that all establishments of this kind &NM be ism e lL they only injured the public, by preventing • cod no saving. e lt e e o di tr ) dons were then agreed to. VOUS. Pllll. CINTS. i The report of the four per cent annuities bill was received, the resolutions agreed to, maths bUI ordered to be read a third• time to. ADJOIIIINNIZIT. The CHANCELIfOR. of the EXCHEQUER gave maim, that on Thursday he or some of his right hon. friends should move the adjournment of the house to the Ma of April. The Orders of the Day weredisposed of, and the house adjourned at Eleven o'Cloek. DEBTORS CLArMING under Me LORDS' ACT. It is well known, that prisoner taken in execution can compel, upon making an assignment of their property, the plantlilli to aflow than* what were formerly called " the . ghats," a sum of mossy amounting to 2s. Id. a.wsek, but rained, . since the increase of prier in proeisforti, to 3s. Id. The matter has been referred to the judges. of the agorae outrts, who uniformly ogles the payments of the weekly money, unless a creditor show gooa mass to the contrary; and, in default of the payment of the aim, the debtor is discharged for ever Atom all rape. nibiky. Tbe Attarney-Oenerals bill proposes the transfer of this power over the auditor to the commissisoas of the lad** Court, an* it is generally conjectured amongst, the. Gentlemen of the bar, that the poor debtor will stand las chance of in. dolgutot or oempontion than he did in Ida-applicadoo to the Juz. timid the King's Benda ar 01111,0100 PIN". Many, . who away of the exorome nosessity of proms . imprisoned rot debt, sad who have observed how annsaois the oases of vindictive arrests are, have exPeeamed an sanest hops thot ii te Jana Seariett will take core that the poor debtor ma w t the we. automata protatioa of the law. 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