Star. — London, England, 1829-03-25 00:00:00

Graduates of Glsesnw. when they were emishiereti quailed to paid°e at the age of eighteen. The Noble and Learned Lot* said. be was of opinion that young men of eighteen years, who were Under Graduates at any of the Universities, were able and quaked to judge correctly regarding the claims set op by the Hoban, Catholics. ThelikkipilliCOCHKSTlM.PrcsiVESCPa d tn infaanarng . coneenion to the Catholics from Wobridp weft. TheDiti of KLIDON paented more than thirty Petitions from paddies! in the county of . Buckingham ; from parishes in Iforkarkel In'Peiehreiesifie, in Lirrenilla Itsies;in ttia menef of Absrlaw s and gilthness shire. all spinet eeocessien. • . Lord K EN YON,petiented -Petitions from parishes is the einity' of, Lincoln rfrosidistricts in the county of Ayr: and parishes Cariarvonshire. against Catholic Emandpatioe. Lard FA RN HAM moved for returns connected swift do ft. &alai of the Militia. The - same Noble-Lord preeenteripidioner egainse.,esocessiuo to the Catholics from enteral pad*. lo IY ednndas of 'Monaghan. Wexford, Iftrieneth. Wicklow, Casino, Aresigl. indiVaterford. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a Paid°. from Fer iae iSetetatid) ft fame of a removal of the disabilities unCaftelles. The House adjourned at Seem °Twee. HOUSE OF COMMONS. . Mr. WILSON presented eleven Pedaloes against the Catholics from Wyvil and abet parishes le York. Sir E. HARVEY presented four Petitions from the county of &see to the saint effect. Lord ENCOMBEpresented a similar Patties Dm a parish in . the county of Rees. Petition to the sane Met were presented by Sir C. Coos, from fairparishes in Glastorganikke ; by Colossi Pea, heft the Rec tor. Cherchwardees, and Inhabitants et Samthats, in the county ',Dodo/k; by Mr. Daintereire, from the Maya and Capered°. °Ohs Borough of Compete's, and one from the Iskibitants of Cuogletost, *igited by 900 persons; by Capt. Demme, from Strom. nets, in the {lnlay of (Mtey i • and by Mr. Site's,, from twe paddies in the county of Monagitah.% - lard 13ING HAM pretested two Polska from the county of Mayo, lb fans. of the Catholics. He expressed his most snips. Übe. approbation of the liberal measures that had been brought forward, Sid W. INGI LEY presented a Petition from Illeh and Lew Matiologite. Yorkshire, is favour of the Catholics. , Sit IL IN GLIB presented a Petition from the borough of Abet• deft. signed by tam individuals. praying that on further coma; skim might be granted to the Unman Catholics. He appealed to the *a. Member for that boroigh, whether the Petition waste* nsticeespeetably signed? He likewise presented fourteen other Petitions to the same effect frowparishes In the counties of Abet. titre, Surat, Perth, and Hereford. ;sit. lIUSIE was ready to admit that names of thd highest sow ei•eet.biliry were attached to the Petition, and that the Profaner vita/ had most exerted hanselt to get it up was a very worthy, but. its Otseplition, a very wrong...headed min. The Petition was got up uukuown to most of the respectable it ttibitante of Aberdeen, and • swap by 1,700 out of 13,000 inhabitants. . Nies-tenths of the sigaaiires were those of the very poorest climes. They were tad that K they did net sign the Petition the Papists would take tem wiry Valuable Churches from them, and that Canute respired they should sign ; that it they signed they would fight with Came, audit tfty dfd not, they world light, against him. Sir IL INGLIS bad only one remark to state in reply to the Ifft.ittedtber for Aberdeen. The Hen. Member, she talking of who had missed the Petition, bad sot taken a fair pro. Pottift: He Wad stated the soother of the inhabitants of Aberdeen ba earaed t line forgotten that 'boas who bad signed this Politico: Were all miles. and of the age of manhood. With respect to the manner in which the Petition had bees get op. he thought it would be but fair to let the Petition speak fee itself. The language was earst respectful, but at the same time most firm ; and the Meitiber bad himself admitted that be did not doubt the since/fey el drew who had signed it.—The Petitions ordered to be printed. • . Mr. DOW NIB presented a similar l'etitioo from the boarish Of Dieting. 'ivied by eft persons. • Mr. ABE [WHO MBY alluded to the interferenee oldie iii pidog sip this petition. He would himself. in the courfe ls eral . Div nights, present a petides from the borough et &klieg is 6r Mfr of. Catholic Rotancipatift, signed by a large proportion of dm trePectable inhabitant,. .31r. KENNEDY kneel that a great armadas of the inhabl. tour: of thai part of the country were favourable to Concession. Mr. H. HUTCHINSON presented a Pettit= from the Cot• potah of the Tipperary regiment of militia against the Bill for the Iteduetiatt of 3silitias. Mr. C. ?ALLURE, moved for a return of the quantity of ou• • ear, rent, coffee. end other colonial prolate', imported and exported worn loamy, IMO, to January, Ink with the duties imposed - ft the saute. .. Colonel WILSON presented* Petition from a parish, in Ayr. shire again. any Nether concessions to the'Roman Ciebolies. *- *alit Petitions were presented Dom Chilliaghinr. Eital. -- by )Jr. Veen :from &ahem, Susie*, by Me. Cobras; and Mien a parl.lt lb the county of Wareriek, by Mr. Dastetes. Alr.- G.. ..BANKES, in presenting a similar Petition from Oss: 'Weston. liedsluitetiebite, observed that the Petition was sigset by twirl all the tusk inhabitants of the place , and that the Pl* Hokin slated eliit they were _particularly adverse to the proposed measure *of Roman Cadtalie itinpatiun. _as it was citatory on the perkiest of the Act of throe with Seethed. • • Mr. J. GRATTAN presented four Petitions from the aftereet Wicklow is favour of Ceded'. Enteecipatlft. And similar Pod. dims were presented by Mr. Wftestiout, (rim certain et the Clergy of Norwich ; by Lad Boates. Dart Kilhatsdira. cosatir, Of Caen; aid Creased sod Castle Eicher& softly of Heath i b Sic VIIIIIIOIAI C. COlLTiegat. Dan four parishes in the county et' Cork; and by Mr. G. Damao, Demi the Rafts Cathedra of she inns*/ and city at lairodoaderrybe lion. Member mid he Could War instigator to the esvaryist loyaky of the shah Meanie el that cotelty.-.The Petitions were Severally ordered to begrimed. sus nags Mr. Rinintsi*, in presenting a Petition from Efteekester tin Hasse en take lam ftesideradoit the laws do al ctt WI tedir. observed, ' tin the kakis. wee well worihy the . srs ' n Won of the Bight liecoorable President of the Beard of Trade-v, k was Wised by LIM operatives. sad described the distressed state of the 811 k Trade lo the tows of Manchester Won the alters. den of the Ink is liii. Then were at the einent trine 'se less than 11.000.loonss oneinployed, sad it was she opinion of the**, bonen. in VASA he fully concurred. that the present disuses Ow elpelly area kent - ffie keesilter4deas in the laws, and if Govan. meant did set ad rpt some measure of prolsibidsn to the Free& illke.f 1 Yen onnber of pecans mint be pauPerited. He was we lifinlikeis were net inteudble SO the livery that existed; sad see tag inworloo in the paper far the ansideratiolof eke laws glint. log the 11th Trade* mob (stare day. be would not sow enter intense particulars of the matte, bet coolest lelnielf with @Meg tlst Ibith Honking* President of the Board of Tray whether h Swat& Intend= of - kb Majeure Governsisios Is Istdpies any, weenie 'Mr the relietel the Silk rade, by way of pielidbidon or' otiverseint ,_._ . • . TO Riskiest of the Bead of Trade (Mr. V. Plesepaia) said. he dukild* *yearn abstain train waking any ebetreatiees in Whiehid Talkie from the Honourable Member ; t'ut he Wadd lay 'kiwis est vin plea Of Government to rams cache eld queen, • Ilfais at meet thee arrived. he should be *Ma eisebew that the MaaNkAilans did not arise Iron the alterations of the laws; aid be would *thee say. that they had its the most distant idea el woriiring'twiirohibitory detivi.—The parities was ibeis read • . Legg NWT' Vit presented a petkiea from the Corporals of the Waleson* Mikis, praying for rennweradon for their Pest senkesi. - Rh. 111•COLDU RN said , that- he swished to sell s Spiestleit et dieMOt Haii:the Chaiwollor a tir, zacketim rebut , ' to the Cipli.lieldinfsir:Vie 4antosed Tates Thu law native to this Abiret Wield et*. lo Awn ifild, and k was.norcforewecoisisty toilsome What steps the Cionemawat intended to pones Main et 11Ssise , TbOr s aLLCOR of the EXCHICQUitit said. that Me die' • 4bensilimseltlenwtthe Assessed Tata would etpird ens . .F. ISIS; bed &weber is•wooldins Ineewawf far the Partiahlr reklee• ea or before the 30th el Octet asJ-(Hey, hen) • .7as.hie wish to Have Introduced a lIM fee the consolMetion and sirla w Of the law* svop- • ft die Assessed Tin WNW a. wen ' Ad hadbetirfei nibs diekia a bad want ; bilt~si -ilk • ' rattlers* the miseure, he Bit he bed lie ware . • plelfferweeisea **yet is web a Mate et fererardeso as Weald who. eke liii4o p p l ing kto Parikweent. He had alio twit* that nit e r *loe Asee.W4, Tanidependid altogether epee ' Mir Assiesed ':Vs. and It Milk* ens int inlaid** - nheerillenksedn•tbt * . beiheold befog .bs s 11111-neweinid the ,systetini of ski 'bit hr aneeber. rem • thie,h lie ray; to , • Cillt e l i t a r isi r trusted al'odeletinini . be a arky* Wir t 441eif lifkithtweollt itiiroisd 'swot Potion 6E" •Lathilirri 10 4 1 4berphce• Is inine*lp &wool ot Cosesessigis; Chris to tee Wooly aothe respreeibile, lOU aignaterst. and felt great phenue noseteringelkfrpedibewand isippettinetAsir claims. *.T.T. `ACtikle•M' 'inekited . 'se WAS ilk Oiffibals if thvlispie bokeilifilithAbriihrtkaitleiriheadeßhlifirikoehei . • • • :.; iis. . .al ive r.er l et4e; '... :. cfpliilifOr Ma .Mk . 44 • . .. •' - twthe-sainsp, ..,1 ... s ''• . ' 4 : - lel . bireleve *Abe*. istelok of eietaikei '. o.9l•looltiish . pia, dmilitioakiafriksigiliii *a reef e /Midas* sof !proed., Oa the motion of Mr. Dawson do Report of lb* Inshoagose Allowances SW was'brought ordered to be teas:` tioirtelodhow. 'lr. Setary Prit; prooleisd Peados' lion the ' filaslar Memo/ Doan, sallow two at' the slams In the 8111...thoie relidog a the alio:aside astablibiniota. sad ths *rialto& • Lord ALTHORP said, that tbs Piddaos bebg Intrusted the ilightllen. fianlawan was'a proof of the' good hallos set* which tb. Cuban received the prawn mwsiis. After a few wardokan Mr. Isitopirliaar tbe• ROW* was ot. derma to be printed. *Mon avubLia 1t12.110 RILL. Secretary PEEL then asYnd the Order et tbyttarfir House resolving itself into a Cestalittee as Besttes•Atbole ROW Bill. The Marquis of CHANOOB I , Withest the hilt slake throw lopedimenu la the way of tbe•preeeedlot/ of &at nigh; fel wishea to make one observation; it *ass that he felt isyshmil sot die. dorsi Ms duty did by sot espeep•a bopYther be semididw . who• thought with Mm would then be• Awed that beerlow we& last night bad been denied than. lie hoped that the Oistesistorwosid bear one side as welly the other. Mr. Secretary PElLfastdd. that se far freak esedderlog theeb. wrestle's et Honourable Meinbera Made is Oesamittee ro aliestne spirit he fek smite obliged for them, for It shwa that. Mutate opposed they inght-he to the prindpie of thirmemsere. tisk sans to make the details as parfait as posslblaceeld not be noshed um favoerably. The Hoese havbg resolved itself late Co mitten. Mr. F. Lane Is the Chair. Mr. Secretary PEEL moved a verbal Amendment epee the dame respecting the Oaths to be administered to Manors sod to peruses elected; also mother Ameaidesset. the object of which was to specify the Individuate by whom these subs were to be admlebtned. _ . Mr. R. DUNDAS disclaimed any thing like factious opposition, or the slightest wish to throw impediments in the way of public business; but the present was a law which he could not allow to pass without some ob servation. He conceived it, in so far as it admitted of Scotch Representatives being Roman Catholics, to be a direct infringement upon the Act of Union between that -country and England. He was ashamed to have ie. nsaitird so long silent on a subject of so much impost ' ante; but ho was in hopes that some Scotch Represen tative would have raised his voice in defence of what he conceived to be the just rights of his fellow country men. The Hon. Member then proceeded, from the work of De Foe (the historian of the Union). to contend that none but Protestants could sit in Parliameit for places in Scotland. It was, therefore, a virtual repeal of the Act of Union. The LORD ADVOCATE observed upon the foets venience of a law such as the present containiog an exception with respect to one such part of the United Kingdom as Scotland. He observed upon the fact that only one of the Articles of the Union was declared ir revocable, end that, therefore, the legislature was now at liberty to deal with the matter as might be found expedient. He submitted that in the Act of Union one Att.ele, and one Article only, was made unalterable, and that was the Article by which the Presbyterian .'octiine was fixed as the Established Religion of the country. To convince the Committee that the Act of Union was not intended to be inviolable, be need do no more than cite one of its Articles, via. the eightettoth, by which it was specifically provided that the laws in Scotland relating to the cache and the. seveaue shouid remain after the date of the Union the muse as they had been before, but alterable at the pleasure of the Parlia ment of Great Britain. Again, it was provided in another Article that the laws relative to the general right and good of the people might be made the same in both countries at the discretion of the United 'lament. There was, in fact, nothing in the Act of Union to prevent the extension of the same laws to Scotland which existed in England. Solos of the Ar ticles, indeed, which it was considered, at the time of the Union, were to remain permanent. had since been invaded, without comment or remark from any person' in that House. He alluded to the two Articles—the one fixing a permanent jurisdiction in the country, and die other relative to the election of Peers and Com moners who were to returned to Parliament, both of which bad subsequently been altered. With these au-' thorities it could not be doubted that the proposed rhea sure could be extended to Scotland without any inno vation of the Articles of the Act of Union. He was sure that his friends on the other side of the House need not fear that their Presbyterian Church was in any sort of clangors That Church was supported and maintained by a Ckrgy than whom a more intelligent or zealous Clergy did not exist in Europe. Under all the circum stances which he bad stated, he - felt convinced that the House would be satisfied that this was a measure which ought to pass into a law. Mr. GEORGE BANKES, said it would be very much to be regretted if this measure were allowed . to pass into a lea withcet sifting it thoroughly, to ewer tain how fat the laws and interests of Scotland might be affected. That alterations had been made in the Act of Union could not be denied ; but he believed the Learned Lord who had just resumed his seat did not mean to contend that the alterations which had as yet been made were necessary to be considered as entailing others. He did not propose to follow the Honourable and learned Lord through all the observations lie had Made, because it would be vain for him to attempt to oppose Weasel, in argument against that Learned Lord; but be did think it sight that the measure should be discussed even on inferior points, and he should there fore call the attention of the Committee to the twenty-' first Article of the Act of Union, in which a provision. was Medico preserve the rights and privileges of the Royal Burghs. In support of thew tights and Irges there bad always been, since the Refoimation, a. test to %%bleb Members were millected upon their ekc 'on, That test was nor of the strongest that 'could be' devised. He conteised that ilea former Lotion, *ben he beast' Honourable Members holding forth against iiligious teitsiand bringing forth their own country as an example, r.e fektome surprise that they should have tore tea the tests which actually faked in that cone try at the damn He Out hot feel that there was, perhaps, moth *eight in thepoitit which he bad just raised be fore the Cumnaittav ; but he thought it right that ever, point which occurred should be stated, in order that it might be coosidered• before the fitileelite was Swift disposed of. Hs/would not detain the HOMO by oilskins further observatiotts Upon this point; but be begged to state that when be ;ante to the following clans; which Aclated•to the formula, it would Ise his wish that there should be some more distinct recognition of she repeals at Lich hadtaken place in the laws of &Wand since the 4:Juton. He asegged pigtail for having occupied sn .inuck of the lime Of the Amiss tbut be really thought it his Abate° Voiet out every thing which oc4istrect to io older .that Honourable Members Might not mppOitell* they were invading the Act of 0111011 Its% than thol t really.sete. ittippelded to the Honourable Mem tssr,(l4:(i. Banitss)topuitit out any.patt of the Act in which a ;UsterUS reqUited. There wos oo,Act of 'Pm. iiansept since : the reign Charkst iti whichuny test mes preacribonl, and indeed AO votylitt Act of the -POloasseot often the Itciolutioo was to iholiihihe test l which had 'prevtoositeatistPd. jn cooefuSion, the Sou. ; Meisfba - Capreasq._bisnOneictiois that no denser (Mild Vito • MAP* ptoptisestineasorn Ws*** *tenth* lif the tletioutablettati .rued d to 'the elation whitli re tilittholtet.for securing , elassiirmettetVand v 4111111Weelltitetrt0 11.6411 the Throne dittlactirezplessed Cathtlir Leith cool_ bst within tbsse realms—Okay, hear). Mr. TRANT ought to be attached. tolls. Union with Scotland with reference to the , question; and unquestionably .that Minn wouldhiinfrinvd upon if the clause now under consideration were aured to. **ware about to vio late the rights oCthe Protestant!, but should certainly poem Wine. we committed a wilful violation of so Wenn a compact as the-Union with Scotland. Mititaalf said as ••••••“ feepested she spay en& tad L oot entered i 'eas would c betweenllngland mote an al.us that a b e i d tikodato prevent thassobey 'but as thwisonner et his ceentrys bat he was far from the present HIM at all of this character. We were about to for the removal of a Mania opus the character of tM Ireland, and that blemish ought sue to be removed from licodeed. liseseddered that If be opposed this deem he should um be up Mali the honour of his country, but acting , to her disadvantage tad •• bee dishonour. The Government had been accused alba,. kg Ism IntimNiated. Now, certaiely, there would be some rood kr loch a charge, It the present measure were applied to Ireland s where the Roman Catholics were numerous, and withheld hum Stadaed, where they were very few. Colonel L I NDS A T sup=be original clause, end coadtbrall It would be prejudicial to not to emend to her the epee& does of the Rill. Mr. H. Xi AXWIILL suggested that, to save the dose of the Hesse, it world be more desirable to divide epos the whole pare. graph--that epee the separate clauses el the MI which referred to its operations I. Scodand.—Tbe House then added, wham the imatbere Fee the Amalgam . Agalou It . Majority . . H . -404 Several othercianwo won thee agreed ts. • Bir I KNATCHBULI. wished to know whether the Right !Honourable Gentian's intended to have the 1111 topristod. Is he pettothred is had undergone awns alterations. Mr. Secretary PURL said he certainly must to have the Bill wined. and whenever it had undergone any aiterations in sob ; steam he wield point thew out to the Hoses. Mr. CRIN'S said he could not reconcile himself to conceding to Roman Catholics the privilege of presiding as Judges in the Courts of Law. By this Bill they were made eligible to fill much higher rittori.rns—indeed, advantages had been imespectedly given to the Roman Catholics of Ireland greater than they themselves con templated. This perhaps was not the moment to en tertain hats • but that the Measure was an infringe. meat upon t he constitution he could not Collieles how any one could doubt. At to the extent of danger to be apprehended there inislit be different opinions. Goo grant that the measure might be beneficial to the Pro testant constitution; but it was bard to ask pasons who had held contrary opinions all their lives to turn round at once from all protection to no protection. This struck .Irim as the most important clause in the Bill, and he would therefore consider it his duty to divide the Home upon it. Mr. WILMOT MORTON said a erw web, when the Lisa. limber was-interrupted by tries of • Cblltitila." Sit E. KNATCHBULL agreed with the Honourable Aleph,' (Mr. Cripps) a. to the danger.of granting these privileges to the Roman Catholics; first. because it was' the primary object of the Catholics to tuttber the kW.' rests of tbkir religion; and, secondly, to promote the designs Unequivocally expressed by the Roman Catholic Church. The Honourable Baronet wished to .know whether it was the intention of the Right Honourable Secretary to recommit the Bill, or what other course be intended to versoe respecting it? Mr. Secretary PEEL said be did not propose re committing the Bill—(hear)— but t> print it between going out of Committee and bringing up the Repoli. The Right Honourable Secretary proceeded to state that it was a question whether the word " Regent" were sufficient to de.ignate the delegated authority of the Sovereign in the clause to be considered,.or whether the words a Guardian. and Justices" should not be in set ted. The Marquis of CHANDOS said, that this clause excluded Catholics from the Chancellorship of England and the Lord Lieutenancy of Irelead, but not from the office of Prime Minister. He was aware that the . office of Premier was not ostensibly known, but it was norm , rious that its authority was exercised by the First Lord Commissioner of his Majesty's Treasury. It was also notorious that if a Catholic were Prime 'Minister the Lord Chancellor could not counteract his authority. He would ask, where was the necessity of putting a he nia, if a Catholic, to the necessity of saying that, being such, he was in leading-swings? Mr. Secretary PEEL denied that the exception of the office of First Lord Commissioner of the Treasury would afford any additional security. He contended that he had given a much better` security. He conceived that the clause in the Bill marl* it nest to impossible that a Catholic could be Prime Msnist..r. To suppose a Prime Minister without the powei of dispensing church patronage, would be to suppose him bereft of his chief isillaince; and the non-dispoutiun of ecclesiastical pre ferments was a better security than the special facia. *ion of Roman Catholics from the office of First Lewd of the Treasury. Besides. that office does not n. cessa lily include the powers of Prime Minister. Lord Chat ham was L rd Privy Seal, and yet he was Prime Mi. nister. Strictly speaking, the church patronage of England did not belong to the First Lord of the Tres. Busy, bot to the Secretary of State for the Home De partment. whose warrant was attached to all wale statical preferments both in &viand and Scoiland— 'lts him it belonged in the eye of the Constitution.— Mr. Canning proposed filling the office of Prime Mi nister witbr.ut appointing a Secretary of State for the Foreign Department, and stated to him (Mr. Peel) that there was nothing opposed to such an arrangement. He stated these facts to show that the exclusion recom mended by hi, Noble Friend would not afoul addi tional security. He mold add, that there were a thousand reasons why persons might not fill certain offices without being positively disqualified--as; *for instance, no one would conceive it necessary to 'pass a Sill for prohibiting a Minister of are of Jebel= doetlicotes congregations flow filling the office. of Premier. In his opinion, the administration of a Roman Catholic Prime Minister could not be_ a very strpog one iwiad he thought that. oathe eliiabisioisd. his. Noble rebid would hare a ouch' better Moral security for any 4anser he might apprehend than by the insertion of words to exclude Roman Catholics,frigieffitles the situation of Fuer liord.Commialotiett of his ltitajesty's 'binary; • ,• Mr; SADLER said, that if exclusion was to . be .se . limited he woillit proles; that the whole of the offices of the State &add be thro4Ogeo to the koniaiiCatliOll4 iocludlng the regal office .ako-r(Hear). He was cap'. Tinted 'hat the prbposed•restriction Walt ele-1 operative and uerrerthy the coastarbors X.4', Boiss . i - Mr. DUNCOMBtorade smitOgsh4ilritideiiA c hti . eluded by referring to a saying of theiete Lod . re ash, that a rtotestailt Zing wararlikertopeesentsal Creeesit thearmy twilie ArcbblikoOde • Cantettinti 'wee appease a Roma . Cat h olic lb; rhh . !Mrs ?EL tali. - diet hi point i 1 het. * .was no `palter - ot ihtiteadog ttnuth patronage fluted either its COlaglthikeet '6l' the Secretary or 'State for the neat. These oftcers differed in that re. Lord Chancellor. as they barely advised distribution of Ecclesia.tical pre. appointments were vested in the and inalienable from it. The cast bititoarrAkimitaratattant of ireldnd was r ectsely the saw s as the King vested the Church patronage enthilr alt him, retaining only a certain cisurtuttover the app o w. mental Bishops. He did Ant mean to deny that the. Prime Minister ezercibed the greatest influence over the Church•parronaget he would go farther. and admit d ie principle that that officer ought not to be ItAblnall Ca. thotic. But it waybill object to •show that-no man, with p..wers so tircomscribed• as a Roman Catholic would be by the Bill. could fill that office; and such wuthe tentioei of tho framers' of the Act. To prevent Rooms Catholics% from advising the Crown in the distrabotko Church appointment& than was & penalty makiet Judi advice a high misdemeanour. The Hatquirof CH ANDO& would pot it to the gas/ sense of the House if: the? could images* any salsg a ble case in which it would be possible.to.condunt awls secution against. an advice ache Crown for. edeiu. 'supposed to rest entirely between the Kiog and himodfi He was of opinion that his observation had: &Jived additional fame from the fact that the Chutchoppoiats ments did not come directly from the Prime Wash& but from the 8. verign. Mr. Secretary PEEL said k was impossible wirer* the required security. as the words N• Prime Minister's Could not be inserted in the Bill, the, law, of England supposing all his AI .lestests Ministers to be on =cashes lity. The disquel:fication of the First Lord of the, Treasury would be abort/see invalid, as these was, no reason why that officer should be. Prime 1/slinky,. There would be nothing more easy, than to evade such a restriction. Hot he would ask it is. were possible for a Catholic to act as. Premier, under. law, the polies of which sat fold) that no Catholic could., dimity of indirectly, advise the Crown on the dispositions . 4 Church preferment.? Sir E. KNATCHBULI4 admitted the principle laid down by bis Noble Friend Prd Chandosb. bet he thought it shcild be eattied feather. and that the amend. meat should go tease eiclusion of Roman Catholics from the Privy Council.—His Illipilttlea • his Sovereign at. tated this. opinion t let be noses could consent that the Protestant Monarch of this country should be placed is that s tondo's of 440114 which bad fixated, bee* med.t.ted for him by those to. whom he OM E. K.) was now opposed. He would save his • Sing fievis the odium that would be ateributed en trios for eackeding a particular sect from offices of west. With sespect to the penalty of advising the Crowe on the disposition of church patronage. it would be an utter imp *Ability to bring feu ward any evidence upon an individual charge. Theo were his seasons. He thought his Noble Friend had set gone stefficiattly fug if he ea.ended his anteudosest he should give hies his support. hir. IMAtiILLAND LEWIN gobbed to Lam If He Noble Lords sossousent was so We pat..* to be eatsasbol, se near. mended by the Honourable Barenes..{Cskooll • Os as wkls tit M M Mr. 1111XMISISON11011.114 the dish wield he Mat bees& dal as k stood. Kr. SEW DEN said, that the observations of the Hen. Member for Newark (Mr. Sadie.) accorded with what he had stated in a late speech in that House. He bad admitted that rather than consent to any measure ofte. lief he would surrender the Constitution altogether to the Roman Catholics. After this he (Mr. 8) mast be allowed to say that the Hoo. Member bad misread the Conoitation which be appeared to think be understood so well ; for the only thing expressly secured by it to the country was a Protestant King. He did not think it contained all that had been said to be comprised in it; . that it embraced eve: frutopike Bill—(cries of " Ols but he would appeal to the declaration of the Noce of Change and the Bill of Rights, to prove that its malt intention was not. to make Catholics for ever iondmiss sible to sit in Parliament, but that the nation ENO have always a Protestant King; and if not, that the subj ct would be absolved irons his allegiance. It was said that the Bill would give a Protestant ascendancy, inasmuch as it secured to us a Protestant King. New. that was the very thing that enabled him to support OM Bill. With respect to what the HonostableGestlemaa tad said respecting the passing of this Bill taking away the moral, if not the legal, right to the Crown, he bad never heard a more dangerous doctrine delivered is that House, nor one which deserved mote reprobation. Mr. U. BANKES rose, not for the purpose of reply ing to th e Hoe. Madge, who bad just sat down. but of adverting to the. proposition of his H9B, and Noble Friend. It hid been said that the office of Prime Minister was unknown to the Constitution; but if they were called upon to pass this law"by.coosideratioeqg present times and affairs, it must be acknowledged thef t as affairs were at resent managed, the of of Pao Minister was kaolin to the Constitution-(liad, bear). Would it not be ridiculous to ask if any body diked know who the Prime Minister we'? He 0%0104 therefore. the proposition of biti Honourable and Noble Priced seasonable and proper, and deserving of their 'supped. The Right Honourabk Secretary had dined that OM Securities he had provided were quite sufficidt to meet' the object they bad in view, and bad said that the Prime Minister, if a Roman-Catholic, would be so hampered in bis proceedings-that Prima Mids. ter be could not be--(A laugh). He should admit the force of this argument it they had a choice of seeari• ties; bet the question now was, whether shay sheaf bare two securities instead of one? They bad got al* of the• Right Honourable Secretary ; let them now bare that of his Noble Friend. The only. argement spina it of any force •was that there was °a • difficulty in se wordinicit as to in dicate who was meant. HR.?, if they adopted the wordi of his Noble Ftiead thei might no .farther ; but if they wanted others, he had no objec tion to choose any of those given in the kttets which passed. between the Doke 0148iogtod and Mr; Ca ning an 1827, who); the words. Prim; Untidier • Fist Lord Otthe Tremuty, or the person whi aecwd , the orders of hisMajosty to form the Ministry, wen psalm srnoniMous. U, however, his side of the House washer once successful, they would find the words in which tla amenitment should, be put. He thought those ot hit Noble Frigid, however, &O good, that be should st port them . • • . blr:l3l4l9l:lT;said, *ii leas certainly desirable dig ale' - person exercising" the authority and iniwoce at • Prime Minister should tact be a Catholic; and the fp curity oared against it by the Bill was fallocioes. 1k "tbonghf tlielecretary of State for the Home Depart' ascot would be &very proper Olaccv to except by the the ecclesiastical appointments were sopa !)1 Jars..llittPresident of the Council should also be !..'ooccosdatitte.bed.also constant access to 1)6111'8110V • I ancOilldilariys'ioform him of what was ierieg ex. 4, of his claass gate complete sretgitf diiolseTtecretary. of State should not be a Catholic for as his signature must be attached to every ex/lai astical appointment, that signapie formed the pretf eque l vec 'smolt% the Protestant .) Tint the First Cotansissiol I CODfit teed the debt) • - MO! OM' DitPartinnt• Kinerfillians‘ our hii- takitt: t horn the Lord le of England, and. in "Aka :10 1 0. the Crown es to the .c 1 that n‘iperseo preffessinirtheithilAW Inrenents, while the old bst admitted: to holtkesfx:tatee office of Chancellor, 7