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7 7- " I, __llllllllanamar—i-• et at t retinal regr th em e - l ots (Atha excellent Statel. . a an." The Marquie of TITCHFIELD—o In rifitigto . „ espies my fentinients on this queltion, I cannot con ceive that any difference of opinion, upon any info. toted part of the conduct of the Right Honourable Gentleman, in his long adminifiration, can jullify las 1 objection to the mark of refpee, which is now peopofed to the memory of that great man.— Although for a long time I seed as a political friend 1 4 that Right Hon. Gentleman, I nevet was honnut• ed.with much of that iatercourth from w%ich private feiondfltip vitas. I think, however, that without : being conneeled by tics of private friendlhip, any man who has been politically connefted with Aim, and who has witneffed his extraordinary talents, his difintmelled patriotifm, and his zeal for the ferrite of the. country, may ardently with to fee a fignal .• fitark of national gratitude and refpaa paid to the 'Memo, of a min who has redered loch fervices. I, tberefeee, feel happy in fecoading the motion of the Hon, Gentleman." Lord FOLKSTONE.—" I greatly commend the manner in which the Hon. Gentleman has brought . ifeiward his motion; and in the oblations that I feel it my duty to fulsenit, I Mall endeavour to follow his example. I Mould be vety unwilling to ground ,Pty npprifition on any particular, or detached parts oldie Adminiftratitm of the Right Hon. Gentleman; but, es the Honourable Mover has withed to take a general view of the whole Adminifiration of Mr. ' Pitt. to ground his notion, fo it is on the general view of his entire condue, and the fyßem be Four• fatd.'l find it neceer yto °pixie the motion. I feel ' it a painful necellity to oppnfe the motion; but Rill ,my fettle of public duty will not allow me to agree to a etiolation, which would be nothing fhort of a general approbation of that (yam which I have ge• nattily found it my duty to oppofe. However dila ,greeable it may be to my private feelings, yet I now feel "Ital . bound, by a fuperinr confideration, my duty to my country, to opp fe the motion; and, if reel osber Honourable Gentleman agree with me in °pinkie. I mean to take the kale of the Houle .teepees it." - Lard LPUVAINE expreffed, in a few words, his admiration of the exalted talents and patriotifm of • Oa Right Hon. Gentleman who was the object of Ibis motion. which he cordially fupported. - Mr HAWKINS BROWNE--o Having had** bower of being conflated with that great man. whe : is env. nrs tame, both by the ties of private friend. I :dip sad politiesl attachment. I cannot give a Meat :Won upon this mention. My view of the general Fa. .belt 4 bis long adminiltration, is totally different annalist which has been taken by a Noble Lord • (foliations). When I Confider the fituation of to • .apedatry at theeommencement of his adminiftsatioen i sed at the anelofion of it. it appears to me, that Obi .akatiast4 profperity has been much advanced dash* . Vint pitied. Notwithltanding the large Cams WbiOh • `:/evrbeeti railed for the ferrite of the coontry, public leedit has moth improved. and the public roods are Aim at a higher price than they were. at the nay eununencement of his adminittration, although that ' was at a time when the country was at peace. and ,lead every profped of the peace being permanent...- , It is not only the public credit, and the publie ' hal% which have increafed during his adminir ' •• aMostilit.but if we will look around us, we than find • oilleimatry thing is improved. Our navy. our *ph adeldlope. and our commerce have eonfiderably in. , I believe the hearts of almoft every matt , =strawy will go aloog with thismotioa. Then • is aastenafata for &cuffing (mall mid detached parts AM, 4sainillration r of 111, general refult of se, I - .lordieve at may Ist fail truly, as was Paid by a great .nods 4 Molina. 4 , that he found Rum built of siewosl. An he left it bpilt on marble." Mr. MILEY ADDINGTON Paid, that it was not wither* very great rehteance that be obtruded him. y fellan the Houle for one tingle moment on this Attcarion, •a mournful one to him.as well as to every 'individual 'titbits thole walls, and the country at . large. To the queftion, as propofed by the Hon. Member under the Gallery. he thould decidedly al _ t. as far as it related to thole pa ft fervices of the ' , inguitbed individual (whofe lofs they were all .., . g , . tßilitrig . ng ) .: e the .al :M e j a ne W ne h e iC a h n h d e : , was mere ready to admit than himfelf, and t h p a ie d n bi o d ur th o e f m w e h a ic n h e . r so itind been the pride and happinefs of a gild tin „irait *ball& to have fupporied in that Houle. To . Ropielecent meafures lie hardly thought it neceffary r VI Oven. as they would probably Coon be fubtnitted , in the confideratinn of the Houle, and on which he did not feel himfelf as yet qualified to form a correa lodgment. With this explanation, which he hoped, no Gentleman would confider as diminifhing his fa.' tisfaCtion in the vote that he was about to gave, the Motion that had been made mct with his cordial approbation and concurrence. I\Ir.W.SMITH—o I declare, that I do exceedingly regret the deseafe of that eminent man. I believe there are very few of thole who regularly rippled his political fyftem, and who were not connected with hien bgrivate ftiendfhip, who feel a deeper regret upon rib occafion than I do. I have been a Member of this Houle for near twenty years, and dining • almoft the whole period of his Adminitiration—l• hare always witnefkd his extraordinary and trantken * dent talents with awe and with adm;ratinn, and I mull be ready to do juftice to them; but there is a word in the tefolution to which I can never brin myfelf to agree. We are called upon to pay th 0 i e:oraordinary honours to his memory, not merely on azcount of his fplendid talents, which no man is more , 1,.4.1y to acknowledge than myfelf, but we are called upon to pronounce him an excellent Staterman. Had I been merely called upon to pay my tribute of reface to Itis great abilities, to his dilinterellednefs, ' (Haar . 1 /fear! from all taxa of the 11040), 1 fhould give try teliimony in his favour as openly, and as loudly as any man, but when I am called upon to .. pronounce him an excellent Statefman. I mull with hold my Arent. I cannot bring myfelf to confider any man as an excellent Statefman, tinier+ there is an • excellence of ly dem in the meafures he purities.— Were I. to enter at length into the fyllqm adopted by . that Right Hon. Gentleman. I &mild occupy more of the time of the Houle than I (tumid be entitled to , upon the prefent rwcpfinn. The whole of his admini , Oration mutt be in the recolleltinn of that Houk, and every Ontleman would form his opinion according i., his own judgment. Ai for me, !shave weighed ib obvie tOttm of his adminiftration, and fu far , from confidetiag tt excellent, Z generally s (*Of obliged to oppnfe his hwafures. Befides t meet 1 had formed in my own mind, there is a conliderarion which' weighs eonfiderably with and which is alio fomewhat of a - private vogue. fell th 4 the lituation in which T now Rand, is owl. to the opinion of a very confiderable number of pet font (mg conßituents), who, fo far front thinking the adminifhation to be an excellent one, thought, on the contrary, that it . was one which ought to be Rea dily oppofed, and they have fent me to Parliament, beeanfe my former conduit, and my opinion on this fobjed, was in unifon with their own. They certainty did not confider Mr. Pitt as an excellent Statefman, nor can I bring myfelf to acquiefce, by my vote, in , fuel) a propolition. I have no doubt but the Hon. Gentleman has brought forward this motion on the purelt and moR difinterefted ground% but for the reafons I have already mentioned, with all the refpat I entertain for the memory of that Right Hon. Gen tkeman, whore death I fincerely regret, I feel rnyfelf obliged to a painful exercife of my duty in oppofing the prefent motion." Mr. PYTCHES, while he agreed in the great abilities of the lote Chancellor of the Exchequer, felt himfelf called on to oppofe the motion. Sir R. BUXTON- 6 i I little expelled the oppofi: Lion that ha. enanifeßed itfelf to-night. I could not have conceived, that when the queflion was merely to pay the well deferved tribute of national gratitude and relped to that much lamented num who is no more, there would have appeared any thing of that, fpirit of party, or petfonal hottility, which be had ' to encounter when living, but which I never fupp.f. ed would follow hint to the grave. Could there be any doubt of the propriety of voting a Monument to his memory If the Hnufe fh uld not vote it. the records of Parliament, in which his tondud had heen fo often approved of, would terve to perpetuate his memory. The Coo.titution which he had Caved, by the wifdem and firmnefs of his meafures, would be a gln t leue monument to his memory; butt above all, the immortal name of PITT world, of Will, pre ferve the memory of his public Cervices to the lama times." The Marquis of DOUGLAS.—" I lament much that we Mould have been forced into difcafion on the ptefent fubjed. With every difpofitiOn to give full credit, both to the talents of that Right Hp. Gentleman, and to his difinterellednefs, I mull fay, that it has not hitherto been ufual, in this, or any other country, to beitow the highea honours, and marks of national gratitude, on the exertion even of great talents, unlefs they led to a fuccefsful refult. It is not enough to Rate, that great talents have been employed with zeal. unlefs they have alfo been cm gored with Come fuccefe. I (hall confider the com• pardon, Which the Hon. Mover mentioned, between Mr. PITT and his Father. In order to judge rightly, It will be fufficient to confider the relative Rate of the country, after the cod of the feven years war, and its prefent, relative iltuation. It is but lately, that a gnat tribute of national gratitude was paid to a daft tinguilhed individual, who fell in the fervice of his country (Lord Nscsowl. We remember what crowds followed his bier, with what general marks of refped he was accompanied to the grave. But Cup. pofing he had not (=ceded at Trafalgar; if, on the contrary, he had loft the Britifh fleet upon that day. altho' he might have exerted the fame talents andthe fame zeal. he would not, in that cafe, have been con fidered worthy the honour of fuck a magnificentinne rat, at the national expence.This confideration wilifisew that thole high honours are only given as the reward orthe fuccetsful exertions of great talents in the fir vice of the country. In °pooling the motion, I feel myfelf to be difcharging a painTul duty. It would grieve the to Rir up thole awes which I would walk over with veneration. (Hear! afar!) If I were obliged to make oblations to particular parts of his adminiftration, I could allude to a tranfaCtion, which principally relates to a Noble Lord in the other Hoge (Lord Macvlcca), in which the fecurity of our revenues was not fufficieritly attended to. Ldo Dot, however, mean to fay, that he ought to be impli cated in the affair. It is. indeed, painful to me to be obliged to oppofe the motion, but for the rcafons I have already Rated, I feel it an indifpenfable duty." General TARLETON raid, that he had frequent• ly ailed in oppefition to the meafures of the Right Hon. Gentleman, who was the object of the prelate motion, and whole loft he very much deplored; but as the chief oblation to the motion teemed to be, that thefe honours fhould be withheld till the judg rnent of the Houfe was known, on the fubjeat of his conduit for the laR fix months—he. for one, was of opinion, that the tall fix months of his admlniftration were the moll brilliant of his life, and therefore he would vote for the motion. _ _ . _ _ Lord TEMPLE—" I rife, in order to exprefs, in a very few wordy the reafons which lead me to fupport this motion. I Mall trefpafs but a very (port time on the attention of the Houk, ■nd perhaps, ton the pre , fent occafion, it would have become me better to have fin Silent. Notwitlitlanding it was my fortune to oppofe the latter part of the Adminillration of that Right Hon. Gentleman, yet I feel happy in giving my setnpla tenimony to thofe trainfcendant talents which he poffefed, and which, from a very early period of his life, were devoted to the fervice of the country. I have alto great pleafure in bear ing withers to that purity and integrity which he pre ferved tht oughout his long administration. In giving my warm fupport to the prefent motion, I am con vinced I am expreffing the fame opinion which is en tertained by every perfon of my family. who, con• netted with him by the ties of relationffiip, may be fuppoied to feel moll deeply for his lob." Mr. WINDHANI--" However painful I may flel the fituation in which I !land, I feel that there is a duty impored upon me that I am bound to dif charge. Nothing c.n be more eafy and fatisfaelory, than to comply with that advice which had been given to all parties, not to let their political bath -hey be carried to the grave* and that on fuch an oc cation as this, they ihould bury all animotity. For my part, the only difficulty I lhould find in comply ing with this advice is, that I declare I have no po• litical animotities to bury. Altho' I join fincerely in admiration of the great talents of the Right Hon. , Gentleman who is now no more, yet I think that thole talents have not led to much luccefs. And I mud (Astern, that by the cuftom of this country, and indeed, by the cuflons of every nation in Europe, thole extraordinary honours are only conferred where there is a certain union of merit and fucccfs— 1174 this ftsould not be conficterecl ax i Mere queftion ct feeling, liftit it fhould be confidered whether,the NS nours pc:pored to be granted are ctftomary, or whe iffeelliey are firiftly merited. There is a Cott of for:1 Spke on which fome Gentlemen may pride them flaw's—the fortitude of hearing well the pain of ' tinkers ; there is a fort of generofity alfo, that lover to indulge itfelf at the expence of the feeling* *iof other people—but I hope, in the prefent cafe, this geaerofity will not be indulged at the expense dour public duties. I know no confederation of a more ferinus and folemn nature, than the demand of the higheft aewards which the country has to know on departed worth. This is not a claim to be decided by a momentary feeling, but which fhould be confi dered in the molt folemn manner. Let us then un deraand the nature 9f the proceeding in which we are now engaged ; let us know upon what ground, the fupporters of this motion mean to rely. Do they mean to fay, that the greata honours that the nation has to bellow, fhould be always given to fplendid talents exerted in the fervice of the coun try ; or would they mean to make a diainetion, and only give them to men of great talent, who happened to be in public offices ? It appears to me, however, that great talents, exerted in the fervice of the c. , untry, are entitled to as high a reward, even if the polieffor fhould not happen to be in a Public office. Let us fee how fur this principle leads : It is raid, you give the chief honours of the nation to thofe naval and military commanders who gain important viOories, and why not to chore who gttide their operations ? Muft not their talents be prefumed, at lean, as great ? Now, Sir, this can be eafily anfwered. An important vittory is generally a thing that admits of no difpute, no deception. The General who routes an enemy's army, or the Admi ral who cleftroys his fleet. is therefore, by the unani mous opinion of every body. entitled to the highelt honours. When, on a late occafion, thofe honours were paid to an Marietta Admiral, all ranks and Jell criptions of people, the noble and the mean, the rich and the poor, the enlightened and the ignorant, all felt equally that thofe - honours were due, and every heart vibrated to the: general expreffion of national gratitude and rape& No man Cap miltate or mil: reprefent fuch maiOns as thofe ; they are not brought fOrWard to anfwer any party views, or upon falfe pretence,. It is for there rearms that there is a ge neral concurrence in all countries to reward Cervices of that defcription. Upon Cervices of fuch a bemire there is always almoft an abrolute unanimity of opi nion ; but how can it be expected that there will be any thing like an unanimity of opinion, when the queftion is concerning the merits of a tong political life ? It is for this reafon that all nations make 'a dif tinEtion..between the rewards given to a fuccefsful commander, and to the minifter under whom he has gained his fuccefs. But if it will be fitid that tranfeendant abilities, long and important Cervices, long experience, and application of the sniod to the important interefts of the country, thould claim as high a reward •as is given to the molt fuccefsful Admirals or Generals, "1 !hall then afk, where were all thofe qualities and endowments more confpi cuous than in the late Mr. Burke ? Mr. Burke.' however. was not honoured with a public funeral---r Aad yet Mr. Burke was inferior to no man in the fplendour of his talcum nor in the purity of hia mind, nor in genuine and diGnterelied patriotifm4 nor in long experience and devotion to the publics fervice. Where then is the difference of the cafes j Do Gentlemen mean to rell it entirely upon this, that men of fplendid talents and endowments, if they happen to be in office, are entitled to the higheft rewards a nation can bellow ; butilhould they be out of office, they are not entitled to honours, aliho' they Mould ferve their errantry with equal zeal. 'ln every point of comparifon that could be made. Mr. Burke flood upon the fame level with Mr. Pitt, and I do oot fee the reafon for this difference. If the °Nations to Mr. Burke's having a public funeral had proceed• ed from his Hon. Friend (Mr. Fox), or thofe who. voted with him in thofe times, I fhould not have been furprized : they might have conceived that be flowing fuch honours on a man who then differed diametrically in opinion, would imply a condemna tion of their own conduct. But that was not the cafe ; but it was not from them the °Nation catne, ' but from Gentlemen on the other fide of the Houfe, whir were afraid that if they contented to fuch ho-, nours, it would appear as if they approved of all the fentimtnts of that great man, tome of which were, perhaps, of too high a tone for them to relilh. They, therefore, would not, at that time, have agreed to a refolution which would have declared Mr. Burke an excellent Statefman. I remember, that wheti the French Resolution broke out, it not only broke up the whole fyflem of European politics, but it broke up, at the fame time, many of the deareft conneetions which had united men in tics of private, is Well as political ftiendfhips. I then differed upon that fub jai materially from the opinion of my Hun. Friend (Mr. Fox), and being, in a great meafure, induced by the authority of the great man I have mentioned (Mi. Burke), I then conflated myfelf with the Ad miniftration of which Mr. Pitt was Art the Iliad. It is not to be fuppofed, that becaufe I joined his Ad miniftration. that I neceffarily approved of every part of his fyfteso. The quellion with me was, whether, upon the whole, the forming that connexion was not the molt likely way to promote thole objees which, in my opinion, were defirable to be obtained. Whe ther info doing I judged right or wrong, or whe ther now after the events, my opinion remains the •fatne as it was before, are queftions that are of little confequence. If I were to divide the whole of a long and critical life into two diflinit periods, one the period before the breaking . out of the French Re volution, and the other period fubfequent to that event, it would be hard to call upon me in either cafe, to vote a fort of cenfure un any part of my po litical conthiet. I may fay, that I think the (Oen: upon which Mr. Pitt employed his great talents was ufeful and right, but it does not follow from that, that I mutt alto admit that the manner he employed his talents, for the lupport of that fyl tem, was to be approved of; although I might think the VlAr was neceffary, yet I am not b , und to fay the war was well crindated in his hands. I do not think that the veffel of the State was con dated in the belt manner for the object that was pro leffedly in view. I think it necelfary to fay fo much, in order to tree myfelf from the charg: of incon fleney that fume Gentlemen are ever 1..44 to bring againa me. I repeat, that I feel it pailltUi to op • pore' the Motion; but I nitil ra T , that lionpars n: filch as is now propofed, might not to be gis , so haaily, from any momentary feeling, but, they . are given, it fhould hilly he - confidered, whether the Adminiaration of Mr. Pitt was, upon the whole lo • ferviceable to the country as had been reprefented The dangers of the country bad, in thy latter part of it, appeared to increafe ;mmenfely. Until the fleet of Admiral Villenetive had received that nneriiorible defeat, the fituation•of the country had been extreme ly alarming, and the danger appeared very near. My great objeClion to granting the honours now ,e. i manded, is this : t has not been the ufage if thia country, or of mankind in general, to Irani the highea rewards, wads in cafes where merithealgits crowned with fuceefs. l)( the Many Ad:nil:4s jviao have been rewarded with the peerage, in nay * i r fiance there was a certain (hare of lands as well at 'of merit. If Lord St. Vincent had loft half his flret in the affirm with the Spaninds, or Lord Nelfon been defeated, either at the battle of the Nile, or off Trafalgar, although the. highsa exertion of coaragt and talents had been prove4;the fame rewards Would not have been given. Lord Nelfon difplayed as much I Mirage and enterprire at the unfaccefsful attack of Tenerlffe as in chef: glorious victories ; but if be had 'Y his life at Tenerdik, it can hardly be•fuppofed. that he would have been honoured with fucb a NA ' literal as was given to him when.he fell in the arms gf vieoay. - Now, as to thi fuccefs . of Mr. Pitt. mull be allowed that thrill tnoft &don dif. sailers have occurred during bit Adminiaratiom Arlo the merit or the dement of his 00, 4 ',bit is teally a queftion which otight ant to he harried in"; 'limner of perfonal feeling, but if it wirier* he difc4- ad at all, ought to receive the fallea and molt ferlotts tonfideration. The honours whieb were now pro• fatted, are filch as the whole halory of our erottitty does not afford sparallel intlance of, except in the 4afe ()ibis illuarious father. The fervices, however, , that the great Lord Clutha/et had rendered to the leiantry, and the foccifs of his meafores, wereTucla evert never denied by any body, and therefore the Refolution which might be aridly applicable to the Father, and which in that cafe was carried enani• aloofly, might not apply In well to the adminillia. tion of his inn, whicli,in the opinion of aloft perfoes• was eminently unfuccefsfo4 and which very mar confiaered as meriting their difapprobatioo. For there reafons, I think we" &sold esereife the great and folennt privilege we poffefi with the Mott mato& ! deliberation, and that we Ihould n6P,'etintrary to the ufual praelice of this and every other country, give the highell hotrours of the State to mark the aleatory of a Isfiniaer who, though• poffeffing great Wenn. and great zeal for the intereat of his country, was unfucceftful in the refult, if not in the combination' of the meafures which formed the (yam of hit itt4 miniltration." Mr RYI)ER faid, the fpeeeh of the Right Ho nourable Gentleman, who jua fat down, had Mehl on his mind fo deep an impreflom that he could not refrain from expreffing his - adunilhmeat.. The Right Hos. Gentleman had made tacit "Rations to the ca. !ideal lifer and condo& of an illutitious Statelinan. now no more, as could not fail of calling to the re. colleCtion of the Houk, the political conduct of that Right Honourable Gentleman himfelf, when, at the molt critical period ever experienced in the hiaory of this country, he had feparated himfelf from his °ldea and moll. intimate political connellions in that Houfe. taken a feat in the fame Cabinet, and fought the fame battles, for a feries of years, with that aluari ous Statefrnan, by whom the Conftitution of this country was preferved, whom he this night had rifen in his place to condemn and whore meafurn. throughout the courfe of his political life, be now reproved with fo much afperity. He called upon the Houfe, after din arenuous part that Right Hon. Gentleman had borne fo long in the chiermeafunts of the late lamented Chancellor of the Exchequer, to witnefs the part he had taken this night. It was, indeed, an inaance of Spartan virtue, which mull be regarded at a flriking fpecimen of heroic contempt for every focial, and every friendly—he had almollfaid every mot al regard, of public and private connedtion. which be this night facrificed to the fuperior invoice of political feelings: and, he trolled, it would ope rate as a cautioa, or rather as a warning, to thole partizans, to whom the Right Hon. Gentleman had transferred his political friendthip. The Right Hon. Gentlerdan, as well as another Hon. Friend of his, who (poke earlier in the debate (Mr. W. Smith), ap peared totally to have mifiniderftood; or mocon. aimed the objett of the motion ; for it waa emphati. Bally impreffed by the Hon. Member, who had this night brought it forward, and exprefsly &fired to be undo-flood, as not binding any man who ()mold nee on this queftion, to any opinion whatever up* any other topic that had been heretofore, or might be hereafter, the intik& of difcuffion. But forely, no man in that Horde, however different his polititl principles might be, to thofe of the illuarious Statcf man now no more, could fairly feel his principles implicated, in acceding to a fignal mark of publie refpedt to the memory of that Great Man, the puritg of whole moral charaCter, the fplendour of whole talents, the airway of whore zeal, and the import ance of whore fervices to his country, every man in, and nut of that Houle mutt acknOwiedge. The queflion was not, whether loch a mark of public re. Iped fhould he paid to his memory, becaufe he had held the con6stencsof his Sovereign longer than any former Miniller had done ; not for the importapt fpace he filled in the eyes of Europe, but for the great charafter which. upon the whole, he had for tained--a charader as honourable to the age in which he lived, as it was ornamental to his comitry—and tht lofs of whole talents, in the event of his death, prefented one of the moil durable caufes ut furrow in every part of the empirT. Mr. GEORGE PONSONBY.—" I feel moa fen. fibly an high degree of reluelance in tiling to oppoCe the motion now before the Houle ; and, I am per. loaded, it isehe with of every liberal mind, that how. ever men may have differed in political opinions from the, Right Hon. Gentleman, who' is the lubjed of (his difcnilion. all animofities that have heretofore elided, fhould now ceafe: and if the motion of the Hon. Member had been merely to exprels fentiments, on the part of this Houle, favourable to the moral ch arafter and good intentions of that Right lion.Ges tleman, I fhould moll cheerfully have acceded to the motion. But the queftion really goes, to my mule!. itanding, to pledge every man, who votes lot tion, to approve the meafutes which that Minkaer per.. tued : I Meallir ly hope man. bation, it has E cal life honour: otic St fyilem . boom fttualii its ara mance' pare 41. that is limit, I ing fue batinn 1 I look was (el and co caw* try tirfl connet - Pa ine in i6/1 ceffas land I pellfd fore, 1 were in nine? . intetel thipg • fel7a — e Ms : froni voted' of air tht rnii l 4 l fo tar put& conlid tinEtio in-the ancato to: sal fa fiats, mod*, *hikes with i Amiei with I coo wi Is fat facia c fuccei I CORI duly the ki have II1t)1111 count had fc Euroi pire. any give be vit for a of tit Mr in eel diffici were I alreac - tied cafe was i bad n and v be im oppol No. fures and c State