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„ . • FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. HAGUE, SEPTEMBER 5. We learn from Haniburgh, that the courier, who carried to Berlin the news of the conspiracy disco vered at Paris, immediately proceeded to Warsaw to communicate it to the Emperor Alexander, who is stated to have already arrived at that city. The King of Prussia is expected to return to Pots - , : --4em•iit the end of August., Acconnts from Berlin say, that the persons who were arrested on account of revolutionary intrigues, are now all set at liberty. FRANKFORT, AUGUST 30. The Prussian Government concluded on the 7th of this month, with Messrs. Benecke, brothers, of Berlin ; ' M. A. Rothschild and Son, at Frankfort-on-the- Maine ; and Messrs. Schickler, brothers, of Berlin, a financial convention for the issue of bonds to the amount of thirty millions of dollars. These bonds (or obligations, as they are called) are already included in the public debt. BRUSSELS, SEPTEMBER S. Numerous couriers continue to pass through this rite, most of them from Paris, and take the road either to Aii-la-Chapelle or to Holland. It is affirmed that, In the Prussian provinces on the Rhine, orders have been given to eiercise great vigilance with re spect to travellers coming from France, who are na tives of the Rhenish provinces. PETERSBURGH, AUGUST 16. His Majesty the Emperor narrowly escaped a great danger nn his return to Ostaschow, in the Govern ment of Twer. Just as he was getting out of the boat a violent thunder storm arose, and the lightning struck the house in which his Majesty was to lodge. The niece of the owner was, in consequence, deprived of the use of her hands and feet. STOCKHOLM, AUGUST 22. The home Sederholm, in this city, failed yester day for the sum of 400,000 dollars banco. The harvest, which is now gathering, is uncom monly productive. BERLIN, AUGUST rt. Some public Papers assert, that the great Austrian Loans compel other German States to negociate similar Loans in order to prevent all the current coin from being taken out of the country. Thus Bavaria wiH negociate a Loan of thirty millions of florins. COPENHAGEN, AUGUST 29. The harveSiiiiZealand this year is the most abun dant ever remembered. _ _ A Russian ship of the line and two frigates, from Arcbangel, passed the Sound on the 27th, bound to St. - Petersburgh. 11.1NOVETt, AUGUST 'Lieutenant-General Victor Von Alien, Colonel of the 2d Rettirnent of Hussars, and Commander of the royal Order of the Guelphs, died on the 23d inst. at Osnabirrg, after a short illness. The Army loses in him a most experienced and able General of Cavalry, particularly distinguished himself, under the Dale of Wellington, in Spain and Portugal. EVENIN(4 STAR. LONDON. SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 1820. PRICE Of STUCKS THIS DAY AT ONE o . cLoCK 3 per Cent. Reduced shut-3 per Cent. Cons. 671 4 I 7 per Cent. 71-4 per Cent. shut.-5 per Cent. Navy 103} AimuitiLs, shut—lndia Bonds 20s. ISs. 19% pre. Exch. Bills is. 3s. 3s. pre.—Consols for Acct. 68k. The observations which we offered yesterday, writ ten while we were XN aiting for our Report of the Proceedings in the House of Lords, would put our Readers so completely ill possession of the line of tactics intended to he followed in the prt - ceedings of the day—and which were actually realized—that we need add nothing fresh on the subject; but only to state, that the question, whether the QUEEN'S Coun sel should be allowed to begin the defence, without pledging themselves instantly to follow up the open ing speech with the whole evidence intended to be adduced, ended in a trial of strength, like any com mon p.,litical question, in which Ministers carry their measure by a majority. To the anticipation of the discussion which we gave yesterday, we shall further now give the observations of some of our contempo raries this morning—observations well deserving of attention: FROM THE MORNING CHRONICLE. " The decision to which the House of Lords came yesterday, I with respect to the manner in which the Counsel for the QCZIDI shall conduct her defence, is perfectly in unison with their refusal I to communicate to her a specification of charges, or a list of witre•ses. The jealousy which the house displayed in the case of Lord MELvn..t.E, lest a prejudice should be excited against that individual in the public mind, by the publication of the pro ceedings from day to day, was, to the great surprise of many, relaxed in this case—a case in which, of all others, as the honour ar.d revutation of a Lady were at stake (laying aaide the morals of the country), the utmost vigilance and circumspection might have been.expected ; and thus for weeks and months the Pub. 1 c have been served with regular dosts of all manner of gross cliares against her DIAJLSTY, in the shape of Green Bag 11e ports, liills, Statements of Counsel,-and Evidence of Witnesses. But the the whole store of matter treasured up against her Maw iv comes to be vsbausted, that moment the jealousy of their Lord-hip. would seem to begin to display itself. " Surely, after the possession which the prosecutors have so long had without interruption of the Public, it was not demand ing too much, to ask that the Ihrise should at least hear what the Qrs can urge in her defence. But when Mr. NOCCUA3I tells their Lordships that it is his intention to proceed forthwith, the Loin CIIANCELLOIL stops him short, with the information, that onlesa Counsel pledged themselves, before opening their case, they would go on without delay to the end, they cannot be all 'wed to proceed. Well might the :Marquis of LANSDOWN ob serve, that a treaty of this kind with a Counsel is one of the most extraordinary proceedings ever adopted its any Court of Justice. What ! shall an accused party be prevented frogs enter ing on his or her detenee? Shall a Court of Justice interrupt its own proceedings, unless that party engage to follow in every sub sequent stage the course which *most agrecab* to the Court? If her 11Attires Cowles! do not choose te go on.withouttiekt to the end qt the evidence, the- Howie can then do without hearing all the .o:knee, what It is not improbable it will now! be allowed to do, without heating either statement or e/idence, that is, come to a decision on the ease. Not so, however, thought their Lordships; and, con.e dividai, it was decided . in favour of this treaty, by A majority - of 165 to 60. A-subse quent proposition of Mr. BILOUGHAS, to be allowed to comment, this day, on the summing up of the Sor.aotvoli-Gootast., was rejected by a majority of 170 to 49. Mr. BROUGHAM undertook to give a final answer to the proposition of their Lordships, at eleven o'clock this day. , “ Why should their Lordships be so anxious to regulate the mode in which her Musser's Counsel shall conduct her de fence, and to insist that without undertaking to call evidence forthwith, they shall not be allowed to commence? Perhaps Counsel, as Earl Gm observed, may. after addressing their Lordships, and .witnessing the effect of that address, deem it unnecessary to call any witnesses at all. Their Lordships surely would not allow themselves to be influenced• by statements of Counsel which are not borne out by proof ; and if there is a disadvantage in having the speech of Counsel before the Public, unsupported by evidence, how long have the charges of the pro secution been before the Public, without being supported by proof ? Surely when all the power of the State has been arrayed, and half of the Poteninios of Europe have been called into the field against one helpless woman, it is rather too much that every advantage in the manner of conducting the proceedings should also be given to the party possessed of such fearful odds.” FROM THE TIMES. " The proceedings in the House of Lords yesterday - resumed, to a cettain degree, their ordinary form, and, instead of judicial investigation, were converted into debates'and divisions—in'the latter of which it is unnecessary to say Which party produced the greatest numbers. The first and most important subject of contention—a subject, by the way, which is still, under certain restrictions, left to the decision of Counsel—was, whether the QUEEIt'S Legal Advisers should be so confined, that if they now undertook to open their case, they should be obliged also to call their witnesses forthwith; with an understanding, that if, in consequence of this premature opening, the great body or any part of the evidence could not be produced, they should still not be allowed any further delay at a subsequent period. Upon this point we only wish to call general attention to the speech and previous inquiries of Lord Lansoown : that speech, so con vincing—those inquiries, so dexterous—leave us nothing to say : they are conclusive. There will be no need for any further observation with the Nation at large. " In reply to some correlative matter which was introduced by another Noble Lord, the Earl of Livzsroot. contended that the present mode of proceeding against her Alaatsvr, however burdened with difficulties, and impeded by obstructions, was yet more humane towards the party accused than process by im peachment. Why, in the case of impeachment, the Lords would have had to decide absolutely, and per se, as Judges, the Com mons being only the accusers; whereas, in the prpsent instance, the Commons are Judges also ; and we think it paying the Lords but a moderate compliment to say, that less humanity would, in a supposititious and, as we shall soon see, impossible case, have been dealt out by them singly, than is likely to be dealt out by them in the present instance, when united with the Commons. "But, allowing everything that is - asserted, or clearly to be inferred from Lord Livearooe's statement, we should beg leave to ask, whether the choice ever lay practically between the present mode of proceeding and that by impeachment? It is more humane to proceed by the present course, than to shoot the Quime without trial. By whom was the Quart( fo be im peached? The House of Commons declared, paint blank, that it would have nothing to do with impeachment, asserting, by a most solemn resolution, that any further proceedings against the genic, or any investigation of the contents of the Green Bag, were injurious to the best interests of the nation; !cc.— (We do not recollect the exact words, and the sense of them is so strong in the recollection of the nation, that it is needless to refer to them.) Vile, then, compare the present course, which was gratuitously adopted, and not taken as a resource against any other process whatsoever? Indeed, it is most re markable, that the solemnity of the inquiry increases as the hei nousness of the imputed offence diminishes. In the first con spiracy against her Maararr, when her life, her sacred life was aimed at, a trumpery Commission was thought sufficient to ht vestigate the truth of the charges; and now, when it is asserted that her person is safe front halos, all the Three Estates of the Realm are set to work upon her by a Bill of Pains and Penalties. " In the first division, upon the propriety of restricting Conn sel according to the terms. prescribed, that they should either not open their case, or proCeed to the examination of witnesses immediately, the numbers were 165 to 60. When the Reporters entered, Mt. BROUGHAM was on his feet. offering a proposition to this effect—that as the SoLictroa-Guesa.te had commented on the preceding evidence, he himself might be allowed to do the same, under an engagement that he would not speak of his own case at all till he was prepared to sustain It by evidence. This proposal was also negatived on a division. This day, there fore, the Counsel for the Quist nuke the election whether they will delay the case wholly, or, taking the chance of their wit nesses being present, open it forthwith, and proceed immedi ately to the examination." It will be recollected that it was assiduously..circu lated, by the Duke of Run/m:0 and others, that no Address was presented from the Leicestershire Mili• tia to the QUEEN, on the subject of the conspiracy against her MAJESTY. Lest, however, there should be any dispute upon the subject, it should seem that 300 men of that Regiment have actually signed the Address afresh; and that the Address, so signed, was also presented afresh yesterday to her MAJESTY. • It will also Le recollected, that L• 1 d ELLENBO•• noucri asserted, and seemed to have made out from dates, that the Non-ricordo man could have had no communication whatever with the British Ambassa dor at Vienna. We .therefore subjoin the following passage . from 31ajexchis renev ed examination on Thursday : " Q.-4M you not shew Gavazzi a- letter which you had re. ceived gom a person here, and were to carry abroad?—A. What I rem, ber is, chewing him the dispatch which I had received to carry abroad, and I 'hewed him only the address. " Q.— Was it not a dispatch Mat you had to carry to Lord SA wart A. IT WAS. From our Report of the Proceedings this day in the House of Lords, our Readeis will perceive that the hearing of the QUEEN'S Defence has been post poned till Tuesday, the 3d of October. It Was her MAJEsty's wish to have proceeded instantly ; but her Counsel, on consulting together, found that some delay was absolately necessary, 11 9 dwrars 4 . 7 The twenty-first day's proceedings * of ; thelrisa of her MAJESTY cornmensed this morning atrten o'clock- I I A few minutes before that hour the LORD. CHAN CELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack. Prayers were then read by the Bishop of BRISTOL, and the list of Peers was called over. The absentees were not numerous. At twenty minutes past ten, Counsel were called in. The LORD CHANCELLOR . then inquired of Mr. Brougham if he was prepared to go on with his defence, or wished for some delay ? Mr. gROUGHAM stated that he had, with his brother Counsel, called on her Majesty last evening, and that .her Majesty felt anxious that as little delay as possible should take place; but, considering all ,the circumstances, of the case, they felt it necessary to ask for some delay ; and therefore he wished to have leave until about Monday fortnight to prepare for the defence. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that although he was of opinion that when the defence was once begun . it should be completed, still he thought that the time for beginning should be left entirely to the Counsel for her Majesty, and that whatever time was asked should be granted. Earl DARNLEY hoped her Majesty's Counsel would fix the latest day on which they would be ready. Earl GREY said it would have better suited the convenience of Noble Lords, living at so great a dis tance as himself, if a longer. period had been fixed. The Earl of LIVERPOOL would be governed en tirely by the opinion and wishes of her Majesty's Counsel, and leave to them the option to fix their own time, without at all considering the convenience of their Lordships. Certainly, if there was any one more than another whose convenience ought to have any weight, it was that of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsaek, whose laborious duties conti nued during the whole of the year. The LORD. CHANCELLOR felt grateful for the attention of the First Lord of the Treasury ; but no personal convenience should weigh with him. He felt it his duty to attend at any time, and to discharge that duty as long and as faithfully as he was able. The Marquis of LANSDOWN understirood, that whatever delay her Majesty's Counsel asked should be granted. The Earl of LAUDERDALE agreed, that no per sonal considerations should influence their Lordships. Earl GREY explained. He wished to know dis tinctly from Counsel, if they would be ready at the time they had fixed ? The Earl of HARROWBY said, if the Counsel for her Majesty felt any doubt as to their being ready at the time, it would be well that they should take a longer period. Earl GREY moved, that Counsel be called in to state whether they would be ready on Monday fort night or not. Mr. BROUGHAM said, he had felt some difficulty in fixing a precise day ; out from her Majesty's anxiety that as little delay as possible should take place, he had fixed the earliest possible day. However, on consulting with his brother Counsel, and more parti cularly with her . Majesty's Solicitor, be would take upon himself to state, that Monday three weeks a. onld be most agreeable. Earl GREY felt no objection to the time now fixed. Lord MELVILLE wished a longer periOd had been taken by her Majesty's Counsel. Lord ERSKINE hoped, that whatever inconve nience Noble Lords might feel, that they would con tinue the same attention to the case as they had al ready done.. The Earl cif DARLINGTON said, after the Learned Counsel had stated that he was ready for' the defence, it was strange that he should now de mand a delay of a fortnight or three weeks. The Earl of LIVERPOOL thought the Noble Lord had misconceived the question ; their Lordships had all come down to the House with the under standing that any delay the Counsel asked would be gnuited ; he therefore thought there could be no hesitation in agreeing to the time now fixed. The Earl of LAUDERDALE wished Counsel to be asked if a longer peziod would not be more con-, venient ? Lord FALMOUTH hoped that, as the day had now been fixed, her Majesty's Counsel would then be prepared, as a further adjournment would he vexatious. _ • The Duke of ATHOL agreed that.itought to rest entirely with the Counsel to fix-the time, and that whether Noble Lords lived in the County of Middle; sex or the County of Aberdeen, they should not think 'of their own inconvenience; but profit as, much as they could by the adjournment, be it long or short. Lord HOLLAND suggested, whether an altera tion in the hours of attendance would not be ad visable. Eight hours a day would be too much. The LORD CHANCELLOR inquired of Mr. l3rougham, if he would be rcady on Monday three weeks? • Mr. IlriononAst." My Lords, widsout'Clciubt we shall be ready ; it is the very latest day We certainly could uish." .1.• The LORD CHANCELLOR then moved, that the further proceeding on this Bill should commence on Tuesday, the Sd of October. His Lordship said, he wished to know from the Counsel on both sides whether they would consent to a Commission being appointed to examine Lord Frederick Montague, wh o was now► altroad, and too ill to give his attendan:t at this Bar? The Earl of LIVERPOOL thought that no ev:. deuce should be admitted except that produced 7' the Bar of their Lordships' House. The Duke of MONTROSE read a letter from Mr. William Burrell, one of the witnesses on the pa:: of her Majesty, dated from Berlin, stating that. 1.; was so ill as to be unable to come over to this coun- try, and praying that his deposition might be taken abroad. The LORD CHANCELLOR asked the Attorney. General if he had any objection, on the part of thi. Counsel for the Bill, to consent to a Commission being granted for taking the evidence of Lord Prc• derick Montague, and Mr. William Burrell, al r, were on the Continent, and unable to attend _ . House, through illness? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, that he hardly felt himself authorised to give such a consent ; but if the House thought that such a Commission ought to be granted, and ;f his consent were necessary, he would Certainly feel it his duty to grant it. 'The LQ CHANCELLOR observed, that tf was ail the asst e: Mr. Attorney-General could pc.- si bl Lord HOLLAND thought no such Counnissk should be gruaed, unless it could be justiSed by so:ly' analogy in the practiA:e of the Courts below in c. minal cases. Ile doubted much whether r.u. l , analogy could be :hewn. The Calls of Adjourn, adjourn ! became nument. -- The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that befc: • putting the motion of adjournment, he had to mo 7 f that the following persons, mentioned in aEst handf.. to him by her Majesty's Counsel, should be orderr. to attend the House, when they shall again meet, It. give evidence in behalf of her Majesty : Jou* ODst.L (or Onus, or Marx, we could uot exagely • which). Jructs Class CAeAtu. Joan*a WILLIAM Hem's. Jonx JOHNSTON& Jonx BILANSECIT. Lord ItOSSVIN, resuming the subject of granting the Commission, observed, that the observation: which had last fallen from the Attorney-Gener:ll, placed the question in quite a new situation. It ap peared from what the Lord Chancellor said, that be considered himself as no'party in the case, but as the servant of the House, this making their Lordship: the parties prosecutors to the Bill. If the granting of the Commission, therefore, were to be a questicm depending on the conseneof the parties, the House would in fact be the parties, and be thus both parties and Judges. His Lordship trusted the House would take cate how they involved themselves in any such anomalous proceeding. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that there were undoubtedly instances, in civil cases, of taking evi dente by Commission, with the consent of the ',artier ; but, in criminal proceeding% according to the best information be could procure, for his own practice in that department had been very limited, such a mode of proceeding had been very rare. In criminal cases, there was one circumstance which made the taking evidence by Commission extremely objectionable.— The Court had a right of itself to examine witnesses, independent of the examinition by the Counsel for the prosecution and defence; but it was impossible the Court could have that opportunity, if witnesses were examined by Commission. It was on the whole extremely clear,_ that, unless upon considerations of the - inint indispensable nature, the Commission ought not in the'present instance to be granted, Lord REDESDALE said a few words in support of the Lord Chancellor's opinion. Here the subject dropped ; and The LORD CHANCELLOR put it to the House, wheiher it was their pleasure now to adjourn tiil Tuesday, the 3d of October, at ten o'clock? Air - red to nem. con. ' Adjourned at half-past Eleven o'Clock. Lord and Lady HOLLAND gave an elegant enter tainment yesterday to . a large party of distinction, :a Ho!land House. The- Hon. - Mr. and - Mts. VILLIRRS entertained a large party of distinguished personages yesterday, at their house in North Audley-street. The Earl of LousnALE entertained a distinguished party yesterday, at his house in Charles-street, Berkeley-square. - - Mr. F. CROOK, son of T. Nowt, Esq. of Tytherton Luca, Wilts, being out sporting with his ti lend Mr. KRAYS, on Saturday last, the gun of the latter acci dentally went off and shot Mr. Canost, who expired within half an hour. - FASHIONABLE ARRIVALS. At the Royal Hotel, St. James's—Oeneral Wallace, from France; the Hon. Thomas Barnwell, from Bath ; Thoma: Wtiliams, Esq. from his seat in Wales; Richard Farrell, rA S . from his seat in Ireland. At Jiatt's Hotel, Dover-street••-Sir Aletander %. uir • .aclrenzie and sou, from their seat, in Scotland ; Colonel Way, from + tout; the Hon. Mr. Dawnay, from his seat, in Surrey. —- - DEPARTURES. Lord Rivers, from Thomas's Hotel, Berkeley-square, fr,7 Newmarket. . Sir Charles Argyll, Ban. from his house, York-street, S.:. James's, for Brighton. John Westcomb, Esq. from the aarendeo Hotel, Bond-street, on a tour. The Marchioness of Silgo is expected to leale u' same Hotel on Tuesday next, for her seat in Ireland. ' a th , 1;f an to fir we Mi as fa On _ Sal se( the IV Os as is tal of I►ll cal