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n ir'"7~ P.eIRLI4M4A7'.eIRr PROCEEDINGS. _ SOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 29. • The Irish Prelates' Coadjutors Bill passed through a Cern=lt* tee, with some Amendments moved by the Archbishop Of Cashel. Report on MOnday. . The itsgeat'a k.anel Bill, sad some other Bilk, were brought tip frumabe Commons by Mr. MANNINO Mr. LOSIIINGTOI4, Mr. P. MOORS, sod other Members, and read a first time. Mr. Hits, from the Treasury, presented an Account of the Amount of the Property 'fax, fur the years ending the sth Ja nuary 18101811 % and 181. 0 . Ordered to lie on the ;fable. • A bog ' discussion took p lace upon the Report of a Welch In. • *Sure Bill, to which Earlikrannors made several objections. Nis Lordship's amendments were negatived on three divisions, Mad the Report was agreed to. L • TIANANTRY AND PEASANTRY OP MELAND. • Earl STANHOPE (the House not sluing text Friday) pro posed to postpone the commitment of his Bill ' , relative to the To " • - Bantry and Peasantry of Ireland till Monday sennlght, but on the suggestioo ut the Duke of . Norfolk, that there was a grand ceremony to take piece on that day (the Installation of the Knights of the Bath) his`l .ordship proposed Wednesday se'nnight ; and i• the Order foi summoning the Lords for Friday neat was di's • charged,- and renewed for Wednesday sennight. • Adjourned till Monday. a HOUSE Of COMMONS. On the motion for the third reading of the Cambridge and Bishop Stortiord Canal Hilt, Mr. C. ADAMS moved, that it be read a third time this day • elx amnia. . , • . Qii.dsls tsuessinn, alter some conversaiion, the House divided. -Tei tike s l'extPoilement 98—Against it 93—Mejotity in favour of - the vain Si.—The Bill was then read a third time mid passed. NlF.N'HitlilthAD selsfutd to know whether it was the fixed •• ilertrmiciation of lie Not.le Lord opposite (Castlereagh) to resist tle tnoticus of which he had givgn notice, for the production of iheCtierteponttence between ltit J. Craiga nd Henry, or not? ,•••aeoitl CAslLh.ltfiMiliti said, it surely would be his wish to POP OR Igllclum *on. ' Attottrts TO•THE PRJNCE REGENT. 'Mt. STUAIVf WORTLEY appeared at the Bar, and stated, ; that. in pursuatice of the Order of the aelease, .he and Lord Milton ? the seconder of the /4.otitel, had WAltil on the . Prince Regent this day, • and . had,ciunnornieated to him the Address of the • 14046 e Of Test rday,, to winch hie Royal - Highness had beenpleeeed to return this most gracious answer : ' - **.Gssercalessi-1 shall take into my most serious and Wasp , diets coLliderStioni the Address which has just been presented to save frglit the tieine.et Gammons." AGRDEKS IN COUNCIL 4 AND BERLIN AND MILAN DECRE.ES. ..; - Mr: BROUGHAM said, perceiving a Right Ho. .nottratit Gendeman, the President of the board oe : I .l'redei it' Ves place, he rose to make a minion which shiseansuased wculd not be opposed. He begged leave at the same time to put a question to a Noble Lord •Apposite, on a point which he conceived to be of pri mary necessity, and to which he presumed the Noble ..Lord would not refuse an•answer, for the satisfaction Of that House and of the country. A circumstance had lately tranapirtel, affecting in a material degree, in the apireheinion of many, the Declaration pub lished about six or eight weeks Noe *by thiss'Governe • snent, .in which it is stated that the Orders in Cous- 1 cil 'shall be understood to be ipso facto annulled, as h soon as an official communication shall have oeen received of the unqualified and unconditional repeal :ceche Berlin and /Allan Decrees. ' Attar some weeks had elapsed, in a manner, he ebnfesitd, unintelligi ble to him who was unacqtraintedivitlethe diplomacy 'of the French Court, a Decree had made its appear sauce, of a pretty old date, which, indeed, but to its date, might seem to be an answer to that very De. ‘l.lration of this Government. It must seem, indeed, surprising how completely they had anticip ated the teirtit Of that - Declaration. . This Decree, however, . ifated In April,lalt, did contain a revocation of the' 15cillit and i gilati Decrees ; and our Declaration did also bear, That our Orders in Council were to be dis-1 -Continued from the period or the Repeal of the Ber:d tin and Milan Decrees. The latter did, no doubt, 1 . tentemplate A subsequent repeal ; but still this was -clearly within the sPitit. theugh not within the words 44 she Declaration, and it Would only require a Ga . ti Pi Oclamation; to set things to rights. It was S c 4rly not an objeteni consideration, when the Bet . - I Aild Milan po u es were revoked, but only that an official, unqualified, and unconditional revocation . of diem should take place. Then the next question was, whether the Decree, which was stated to have been lately. communicated - to this Government, was Iffrißati unqualified and unconditional repeal of the' eeteinf'S decrees,' as Made our Declaration attach to • ihealict:of'repealing our Orderi in Council ?—(lfear, Aear,from the Ministerial tide.) Waste to understand, then, that it' did not so attach ? The Repeal of the Trench Detrees, it appealed, was confined to Ame rica; was this, .boWever, to be held as sufficient to prevent our Declaration from taking effect? This was whet he'whihed to know from the Noble Lord : he heartily wished the. Noble Lord's answer might be Alai as the steiseand the country wished—that was, that it,nliglit import compliance with the expectation 'now expressed by him ; but, if this should not fortu nately be the case, still there was a necessity for some further step being taken.oh ‘ Che pert of the Govern-, tient of this Country. Hs meantkhat a publication of the annulment of those Orderein Council Would be tiome necessary. If .this was 'not • done, then must a,very individual case come intei . a Prizi Court, or' unto a Court of Law, and the- parties be exposed to 1 a harassing and expensive litigation. It was with ' the view of entreating to-take this intoconsideration, 1 and to rectify the Declaration, that he now .brought 'the subject under consideration. With this. view he now begged to ask of the Noble Lord, Tirst, If to his conception of the Frenth Decree, the date was of consequence ? 2dly, If he agreed that this act of the French Government was esteemed enough, so as to operate as a repeal of our Orders in Council t Sdly, 1* both of these points were at an end, then he begged to suggest that it should not be left to Spectilation. bhat the nature of the Declaration was meant to be ? ut that an explanation should be published on that subject. Mr. Brougham concluded by moving for an ictouni of the expence of Clbalhing for the Army; sand Matines fur the ten ye irs ending .51.11 January. 1812, di.nitenisling each year. ..hlte 11.0 SE had nu objection to the motion. r-ICferid : CASTLEREAGH complained, that the }Hirable and Learned Gentlenvin had brought ibeilialethiseeuestions rather in an argumentative son , eikehioe. , He hid no difficulty, howtvee, in stating, *be ***hie opinion as to each. It was no doubt Ott,ithat - there had been cornmeseicated to the Go-. . initsieent of this eciuntty, withal 'these two days, I --.'of the French Governmr, to the I try received this tommtmleation with Strittiee t be: cause they left that the American Gottenartums ha& applied for Wit explicit information on this head to. the French Government, and, till lately; when the Dectee'in question was peviducesl. had not received any satisfactory assurances. Tbe Honourable and Learned Gentleman had professed not to be ac quainted with French Diplomacy, ci which, there eould not be a donbt, the Decree in question was the offspring, now first seen after it had been passed, as its date bore, fifteen months, :ind after the pro mulgation of the Declaration by this country.— The Decree in question, however, was not an un ctmditienal repeal of the French Decrees, but was pointedly confined to America. Now, if the Ho nourable and Learned Gentleman asked . him, if such a Decree, 'so extraordinary and unique in its kind, satisfied him that we ought to repeal our Orders in Council, he had no hesitation in saying, that, in his opinion, such a Decree in no degree satisfied his Ma jesty's Declaration, which was frareed,not to apply to one nation as to whom for a hostile and sinister purposn;•tht Trench Government might repeal their Decrees,' but only in the event of a eneral and un conditional repeal of those Decrees. The Decree now alluded to only went to a partial and conditional re peal of the Berlin and. Milan Decrees, and now made its appearance under circumstances the most disgrace ful to the Government whence it proceeded ; and it any one act could convince America of fraud having been practised by France, both against this country and against America, he (Lord Castlereagh) should conceive this curious and pretended document would' have that effect, which was now brought forward with the expectation of seducing this country into a repeal of her Orders in Council., As to the instru ment itself, however, it did not satisfy the terms, of the Declaration issued by the Government of this coun try. if what he (Lord. Castlereagh) had stated on this subject, however, was not satisfactory, the De claration gave to any person entertaining a contrar y opinion, their remedy at law. Mr. BROUGHAM begged to be understood as only repeating what he had originally meant to ex. press, that if there was not a clerical error in the date of the docuntent in question, It must be considered as one of those acts which are most unworthy of a • Great Nation. As to the condition, however ; on Which the Declaration bore that the Orders in Coun cil were to be repealed, he once more implored that 'it might be reconsidered; and submitted, that though not in the woesis,, yet in the spirit or' their Declara tion,lhe Goverment of this country were now sear tented in revealing the Orders in Council as toAme rica. The Freno Decrees being repealed as to the Americans, this was, as to them, the same as if there was a repeal of those Decrees generally.. Mr. ROSE said a few words. Mr, STEPHEN disapproved of the premature manner in which the matter had been brought for ward. The paper alluded to seemed to him to be singtitirly disgraceful to the GoVernment by whom it Was issued ; but he was surprised that his Honoura ble and Learned Friend should, in the present statt of affairs, have been so anxious to draw from his Majesty's present Ministers, their Opinions on the Object of the effect had by that paper on the Decla ration by this country. Did he do so, from-an im pression that those measures which he (Mr. Broogo ham) so strenuously supported; would not be so much in favour as he could wish with that Government wiliest was yet unborn ? Mr. BARING regretted, that the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) should have etpressed any decided opinion on so Important a point as the policy of con tinuing the Orders in Council, so far as America was concerned, pending the evidence now in the course of proceeding at the bar of that House, and before there had been time for neighing the import .ance of that evidence in all its bearings. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he had given no opinion as to the policy of contiuuing the Orders in Council, as far as'regarded America - . He hail only answered some questions pot to him on matters of fact. Mr. BARING explained. When the motion was put and agreed to. Mr. BROUGHAM also roovcal for an Actbunt of the Expence of Swords and Bayonets for the Navy apd Army, fur the ten years ending Bth Jan. 1812, distinguishing each year.—Ordered. SUPPLY. Lord CASTLEREAGH felt that there might seem to be an impropriety in calling on the House to vote away public money in the absonce of the Chancellor of the Exchequer; but as to a grant, the principle of which h:td been already assented to by the House, (he meant the grant to the children of Mr. Percival, which had been unanimously aplto ved of by the House,) he t h e ught there could be no difficulty. He should move, therefore, that the Mouse do go into . a Committee-0i Supply, for the purpose of voting that' special grant The House accordingly went into a Committee of Supply. •Ds, ISCELLANI ES. Lord CASTLEREAGH moved that the House at 10 risipg, should adjourn until Monday. Mr. BROUGHAM called the attention of the House to 'the inconvenience that Would result to the country, but more particularly to the witnesses, by an, unnecessary delay. He wished that the House should sit to-morrow, that the examinations on the subject of the Orders in Council might be continued, Mr. STEPHEN replied that the Hon. Member had no right to expect that the convenience of Mem bers should be sacrificed ; he having occupied one whole day in the examination of witnessesfainn Spital fields, whose attendance could have been procured at any time. After a few words from Mr. Ross and Lord CAS TLEREAGH the latter withdrew his motion, and .the question of the Adjourantent of the House was. posto i poned. A Committee to arrange and digest the Blginfray Reports Ire appointed, on the Motion of Mr. 1). Ginnie.' After some unimportant conversation, an Aireoint wire order' ed to be laid bt for:. the Houanof tbe num ber of Crate. of Fart MO ware-sent to Liverpocil front the Potterivi of Staffardehire, for the years 180 S and ISIS. Mr. Baltic; enquired if it were the intention of the ether side of. the House to call any of the ship owners of 'Sunderland or . Shields; ivbo bad petitioned for the continuance of the Orders fn Council, and bebig answered In the tiegs.tive, he gave noire that ' be should move for the atteadance of several. Mr. MaIIILYAIT .ild that the ship-owners of Undies who had petitismed the House woldd be examined. aJ •fam now= •••••• 4116...a0.A «eel Asa Umbra.. •••••••160.1 I . . • - . LIST °TITHE MAIORTTY 0/f 1/111.1ITUANT WORIILST's lipTIOW.NOR Alt ADDRISS TO Till PIUNCII Riad? TO /Olin AN RIIiCIANT AD MINISTRATION. A • , rt bererombie,Hon. J. Grattan, Rise. 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W. • Mellish, W. Wharton, R. kllice, W. Milne', R. P. Wilberforce, W. .. , Ellison. R. - Moreton 9 •E. Hon. E Williams, R. jun. • Est court , 'l. Montague, M. Wood, 'l. Eyre A. 11. Moore, Lord H. Yorke, Rt. Hon. C. ' Farquhar,' 3. Moorsorn, Admiral IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION. (Continued front yesterday's Paper.) No. Vl.—Copy of Load WeLLtatar's Reply to Lord LIVILR. POOL'S Etphutat.iry Lotter of the 19th May, 1812. MT DIAlt LORD, Apsley-house, May gl, 1812. Although you have bad the goodness to dispense' with my returning any answer to your letter of the 19th instant, same farther 'observations on my part may, perhaps, contribute to promote the professed object of that letter, by explaining and correcting whatever may appear doubtful or erroneous in the course of our recent correspondence. When you informed me, that your opinion upon i the claims of the Roman Catholics remained un changed, and that you were not aware of any change• in the opinion of your Celleagues on that subject, I certainly concluded that the policy, which has been pursued during the Present Session of Parliament, wVuld be continue.dty the new Cabinet. §ubsequent reflection satisfies me, that such a coo -1 elusion was just And reasonable ; not can I admit that I have fallen into any misapprehension of that system of policy,.a hen 1 have described it as consist ing, not only in the denial of any present relief to tllte Rail Pan Catholiss, but even a peremptory refusal to consider the state of the law which affects their civil condition. • Whatever may be the different character or com plexion of the opinions of the several Members of the Cabinet, the practical result has been to pur course which I have described, during the Session of Parliainent ; and your explanation sue moment. No suggestion is made of the time ores cumstances, in which any altciatian of.this systeni policy can be expected ; no prospect is affoaded any conciliatory proceeding, which might tend open the way to an amicable settlement, and,* a desire of hearing specific propositions of stxurity professed, the very consideration of the question denied to Patliament, and is not pursertd•h r other authority. This statement is no misapprehensi on of the of your Explanatory Letter ; and in such a stat e .the present Cabinet, it may be detmed sup er fi ne to analyze individuarsentiments. This task (however useless with regard to pi t s practice) is required from me, by t,l,e strong peat which you have made against any inference to be drawn from any-declaration of your's, that it j or ever has• been, your opinion, that, &safer 140 • trances, it would be possible to make any alterati• • the laws respecting the Roman Catholic s . To this protest you have added an aUMIMO..., 44 That upon•the teat occasion, on which the % so n was discussed in Parliament, you expressly it otr a that circumstance' might arise, in which, in yowls*, ment, sortie alteration in those laws 'staid be advt able."—l confess freely to you, that I have al la y understood your recorded opinion on this sehre tt a very different sense; I had supposed, that mes a . sidered the disablities imposed by statute um*, Roman Catholics, not as temporary and OCC&Siore, securities against a temporary and occasional d oom but as an integral and permanent pert of anemia,. tuth p in Church and StAtei established at the k eo ,. lutiou. In this opinion, I bad always uaderwasd, that several of the principal Members of the ri m Cabinet concurred with you ; and that you s a k • • common, an apprehension, that the removal pf important part of this system of restraint a m id e ,. danger the foundation of the Establishment ofd Lass s, Liberties, and Religion. Viewing in this light your sentiments, ea t lisi of the respectable persons to whom I refer, loi persuaded that I shall not be suspected of Wok to cast any reflection upon the honour or hum s ' those principles, or of the persons who ruins:l6N a I have ever considered those principles to lip. and honest is the minds in which I 'apposed is to reside ; and while I give full credit to &aim rity, I lamented their erroneous foundation Natio. gerous . tentlency. • 1 must further declare, that from some occidoe,l did not hear ale' statement in Fallow= to ill you reter, as baying been made by you oo the um occasion, in the House of Lords; In• w, bowies, understand your opinion to be, that carsusamecir al arise, in which, in your judgment, some Amos would be advisable in the laws affecting the Row Catholics. I I I I t . I Ii 1 • 3 1 1 1 - I ebiara ut desirous of urging the untimely revenging sircennaaares, which you have mmen. i specting securities; and I should be anions to bat the specific statement of ALL, OR ANT. of WM Cm. cunt:l - micas under which you would advise mai. ignition in the laws reapect.ng the Roman Cathie& The explanation, which you require •respenisi securities, is attainable only by a full considerate' and discussion of the whole subject ; and I daytime view the declared intention of resisting the fiat sup towards such a discussion as an effectual beryl against that explanation, which you consider ate the necessary preliminary to any alteration of them isting statutes. The details of your reasoning outfit part of the question render the prospect of any !es& nwnt utterly hopeless. Yost recitire a change *de state of the opinions, feelings, conduct, and temp of the Roman Catholics, as a preliminary, men ,the.consideration of —the causes of their conga.. —But is it possible to expect effectual thugs the tritTer. of the- Roman C obeli, Body, whit yes refuse even to enquire into the nature of their grew. dances? The repeated rejection of their claim, win. ;out any other deliberation than that, which has min 'on the mere question- of taking the Petition WOOS* sideration, is not a course of proceeding calcalsid ' to mitigate Ole severity oldieappointment. Rasa and moderation must appear in our conideratited their prayer, if we hope to infuse those qualities ins "their proceedings. You require, also, a change in the cirsomstsans of Europe.—lgnorant of the events which may hew furnished any hope of suit a change, since I hai the honour of a share in, his Royal Highdess's Caw cils, I mutt Consider the determination to delay di interesting question, until Europe shall have assamsi a new aspect, as a virtual negative upon the ses stance of the claim ; arid, I foel this point with greater degree of psyn, because I am convinced teat the continuance of Ireland, in her present = must protract, if not perpetuate, thwprielet ,condition of Europe. But, until these pr e liminarks s hall h a ve been NW Ilithed, you-declare, that it will be pour duty WO' sist Parliamentary enquiry, which, in your pe r ment, could be productive of no other effect, that 44 to alarm the Protestants, and delude the Rossi Catholics." At the same time, you mire no hope, dig' the means of relict will be openedlby any other atithreC. ' ty.— I cannot understand through whatchannel Oin a. son or passion, the Protestants should be alanseis or the Catholics deluded, by a full and fair ear , * ration of the state of the laws affecting the hie body. Indeed, I cannot conceive any premaiNl! likely to remove alarm, and prevent delUsiorhasnm which appears to you likely to create both. •Cfn the other hand, I apprehend much more delP ger, both of alarm and of delusion, from any ger, of measures to be founded on the gener_Al sad Iv* tinct terms, in which you state, 44 that . arCtlin itia _ e _t i way arise, in which tow alterationin the laws wor!' be advisable." • You Teter to consideratiops of a 4 4 vire Mon 1104 PORT ANoit," which, until a very late period of tll! have precluded the Executive government 5114./Irt Lament from entertaining this measure; and 7 0 .4 gest, that in the opinion of some.proastr' l 4 considerations have not lost their sume, that you refer to the known se . the mest• exalted and venerable asthma* realms, on the claims of has Majelts • tholic subjects. As your letter seems to rflorib ilkov i l le . reference to the course of my co . nd . e cc)* and ill his Majesty's Councilson Myself -of this apportion', 'to '4 l both et sly former silences and a --~.