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jested to the did ritschisemeut b uut upoishog tabu grounds, and because the principle might be hereafter extended in a manner which might be attended with great incon venience. Upon the whole he highly approved the =leisure of telief, as it would subsitute peace for wile, weakness for strength, and harmony for intoler.snc• T/ 3 9 It 0 1,1 e Marquis cenelyild by moving that the pe titipa be read at length, which was accordingly done by the Clerk of the House. The Noble Marquis then • presented other petitions of t'le same nature from the Merchants, Bankers, and others in Glasgow ; from the Steward. Recorder, and Potmen of the borou t zh of Ipswich; from a C inisegstion of Unitarians in Bel ford; front th • parish '.l fadcaster, in Yolkshire ; and from the Roman Catholics‘of 12 parishes in Ireland. The Earl of CLARR presented a similar Petition from Rath kept. In the county of Limerick. • The Duke of SUSSEX presented a °Panda in revolted Ratan. cipation from the inhabkants of London and Westminster, signed by 1,17.5 permits. among.; whom were 400 merchant", 11 bankers, 198 lawyers. 17 Quakers. and 149 medical men. The Royal Duke said that. knowing the 'tartness of the Nobliand Learned Earl oa *objects of that Dusty, be had been very correct lo his inspection B(4te P thou. The Earl of ELDON said that be was happy to see that them Were 17 Quakers who admitted that Ober, were Lords Spiritual to that Haase. The Earl of DARNLEY presented a Petition in hewer of Emancipation from Rochester, in Kent, and rfritersted the °twirls doos'which he Ism often made as to the Tray in which Pratium of a contrary stature bad been signed and get up. The Duke of RICHMOND begged permission to say a few words. The Noble Lord seemed angry with him. because he said it was his dirty to bring foiward the persons whom he accused e f obtaining signatures by means of menace and compulsion, in order that such persons. if any such were really in existence, might be dealt with as their conduct deserved. The Noble Lo d. in accusing the petitioners so generally ignorance, most surely nitan to make a'. exception in favour of the county of Kent. The Noble Lord would surely not say that the inhabitants of that county ohs bad sembled at Psnenden Heath remained in a state of ig. norance. lie, surely, would not deny that they must knoW what they were doing, after having had the ad vantage of a speech upon the subject from the Noble Lgrd himself, and speeches born other Noble Lords, to say n 'mi.% of the speech made upon that occasion by a Learned Irish Gentleman oho volunteered his Sel'- Viet' for their instruction. The Noble Marquis had spoken of the great number of conversion's to his aide, of the question. BUt he f og• tto state that that side` had recently acquired thePs easier. Give him the Pre mier above all other converts. This was the con v ert to make eimeorsion fasisionahle. He would never con descend to call in the aid of clamour in su pport of any opinions he might entertain. But his prejudices, as he supposed he must call them, mete deeply tooted. They bad been confirmed by *the arguthents he had often heard both in that and the other Iloure of Parliament. H • still remembered the doctrines so earnestly and stu diously inculcated, that Emancipation scold never sa tisfy the Roman Catholics of Iceland, anti that it would n t be granted without 'breaking up the Constitution. However the persons mho havlb rmerly emplojed these arguments might think it convenient to renounce iheui, he Could not 10 easily renounce the opinion they had eontsibutrd to fix in his mind. He should; thersoor, meet tt e measure, o he-never it Crime before their Lord ships. • ith every Pethemettery me ans of 'lemma , . After a few words fr o m t h e Esti o f r atwouru and the Earl of Dattatung. the petition was laid upon the table. The Earl of ELDON then rose to move the Order of the Day, ir That there be laid before their Lotrisbips an account of Roman Catholics . in England who hate taken the oaths under the Act of 1791, and in Ireland who have taken the oaths under tie Act of 1793, each since the year 1815:' The Noble Earl, b: fore pro- ceeding to the Older of the Day, said that he had not on that day brought down any Petitions to the House, observing, that, in presenting the Petitions with which he bad been entrusted, he had often unintentionally been the cause of giving their Lordships a great deal of trouble. He was, however, sorry to acquaint their Lordships that the number of Petitions had so accumw listed upon him that he should be obliged in the course of the next week—(Hear)—to give their Lordships even more trouble than he had dr•ne before—(Heal). He could not on the prerot occasion help observing, that it VIA , very singular that. at the /newt day, w. en the people of thisscountry exhibit more feeling, mcre senti ment. and more apprehension, than they had ever done at any former period within the last fifty years in which he had had the honour of sitting in Parlisment—it was, the Noble Lord said. very singular that in such ensure. stances the Noble Lords on the opposite side of the House should have discovered, for the first time. that all the Petitions which they presented were re•pectably got up and signed, whilst all that were presented of an opposite nature were stigmatized with every nett of op. probiulle expressions—sale to be got up in hole, and corners—to have been signed by charity children, school• boys, ac.—the fact being that not one word of all this could be truly alleged against those Petitions. He (Lord E.) had now, with astonishment, heard it said that the people ef this country were, as it were, guilty of a degree of presumption in attempting to judge of a clues• Lion of this nature. It was said, indeed, that in matters of t;ade and merchandise they were competent enough income to a sound conclusion, but that, when-a qu:s lion of another sou came Write them—when the noes siiire was the salvation or destruction of the institutions which they revered and wished to preserve inviolate— that upon this point their judgment was good for no thing—that their voices were to be - insignificant when they called upon their Lordships to maintain those in atitutions which had been established by a Parliament containing lawyers, divines, and•other men of character sod eminence, at least as great as were eujo) ed by any saes of the present day. He wished to sty one word • about the dissolution of the Avsociation by themelves —Olen). His opinion upon t!se measure shish had been enacted for the purpose of patting down that body was, that, unless the leaders and members of it could ore aati-fied in some other way, the Actwhich had been passed would- be equally evaded and 'wife, ru al.— AA, Am was, passed •in 1.704 . graning certain ptivs. legit tp, the Citholics of- Englsndj on their -consent int to take the oath of ailejoance to the King and his, Ikoteast tut successoes ot the /Ir. of Menotti. ; Arid 0460400 were apprinted to, tee ify for such at had famed to the oath ; making a register of their. names and places of abode. It wait something singular that others_de Prissy Council, wished , to ascertain - the num. boc.nrilooss isho•had conformed, they found that the ours had made no retail na, that no information could bit obtained ; and whel. inteiries were made at Watt @ninon Hall, is emoted that in some counties none had taken tips oath, its some only two, and. in others fowl:, hie would now submittn their lordships cousi deratiou that a> return. should be laid before the House of the number of, Roman. Catholics in England who had taken the oath. since 18441. As to Sr.otJand there bad ale bma an Act. pastas' for the reliefof the Roman Catholics of that country, sad thee Lordships wrrold rnwsembe:r thalamus Watt& he. aside to the &three of tip :literal:seas. It "formed part of the resent , motion to incitairf if emirate lists had been made In Oben erten. With retpect to telanj. the Cathohg thererwere relieved ftom certain pen : llties in 1793 Opon taking. the oath of el j egiance 40 'his Majesty. . 4 . !be su jeer pen a lties in general theievos no one wit opposed to penal laws than he was—that is. in consi dating them in contradis:in:tion to lams of disqualifi cation with which. until 14tely. they bed not been iden• tilled y and so far lions wishing to enforce these laws in Velem], he would himself have bioutht in a Bill to set that Mator tight—(Neal). He yrnseld D 9 take the Itheity ot reading, as to ecc.:rdence with this part oi his motion. a part of his Majesty's SpeeLh to Pattie nsent on the first Jay of tile present Session (The No .le , and Learnej L•ird here read 1114 pert of hit aLtiz,tl i b, sepee¢ which recommended Parharnent to take t state of Iceland into c-n-ide at . and to devise wha:- ever measnrea of relief could be sdnpted with rat ty to the Protestent estaislislintent of the country ) This ie commeodation, the 14;thle LearneJ Lord was, of opinion, pledged his .Majesty to nothing. 1 , called fir the advice of Pailiament, and stated a deter nti.tation to preserve the church acid constitutistn inviolate; and he ;eitarsisti it with a feeling of gratitude.. If any 'bins tuither had been said concerning his Majesty's doer ruination, i had not been very much in accordance with Parliamentary usage—('year, heir)—and he would answer tt by referring to what had bees stated by a Bishop and en Archbishop, competent authorities--and it was also his opinion—and he had possessed means of knowledge open to lew—that it must be his Majesty's deterusii atkris to preset ve the ionstitntion inviolate (Hear). He diJ nut mean to discuss the merits if the proposed Bills at present ; hr would only say that the question would be, were they likely to preierve the in te..rity of the constitution ? He would. however, con ceiee himself roily of the basest ingratitude it be did not declare his fixed impiessi.in that his Majesty never .could hive cnnsented to their being submitted to Par !Witco; unless he bad been advised that they were in perfect consistency with the security of the Protestant stahlishment. The Noble and Learned Lord concluded by read ng his motion to their Lordships. The Marquis of LANSDOWN, with reference to 1,10; 1$ fallen front the N 06141041 .Learned Lord (Kidon) concerning the wile in which 'Wapiti had been reteleed by his side of the House. begged to ay that be must Italie been misunderstood. lie denied having said that be was surprised the people. should presume to PetitMn on the question. There was mow amoi their Lordabipi more dimmed to attend Petitions than. be was, provided the; We! tiiMed upon matters which they were able.to comprehend. The Karl of 6 ILION thought the Noble tarquis bad used the word'• presume." The Marquis of LASSDOWN would appeal tn their Lordasilni da to the expressions be had used. He Mimi that the Nolge and Learned Lord way incapable of wilfully miarepresentine him; but he repeated that be bad Dever used the phr4ae, and that nothiaS could+e farther from his feeling. Tae Earl of KLDON referred to their Lordthips 'whether the word bads*, been osed i with respect to the creation of the diafraa-. chisement of the 10s. freeholders. The LORD CHANCELLOR did not rise for the purpose of opposing the motion of his N ,hie and Learned Frietr - d, for he was desirous, and the Govern ment were alsii desitous, that every possible intorma lion should be given that Wee open the measures fore both Houses of Parliament. He would not have risen only for one or twoobseivations that had f .11en ticias hi s s Noble and Lear n ed Friend. He (Loyd Elston) hani said that upon pruenting petitions, or stoking trio• Lions. be would not enter into any discussion of the Measures, yet with an address and dexterity peculiar to hittiself,'he had taken every opportunity of glancing at Item, and reprobating them. On a former night !Kind pronounced them detestable, and he had now intimated that they were inconsistent with the Protestant esta blishments of the country. At present he would !not rrister upon the refutation of these opiniana; but he pledged himself to do sn whenever the measures came under the regular consideration of the House; and to satisfy their Lordships that in the points referred to by his Not* and Learned Etiend they were in no re spect at variance with the Protestant frame of the coon try. Hs Noble and L-arne.l Friend had referted in the same way to a weasure that had passed both Houses, and received the Royal assent. He had pro ' nounced it inefficient ; but was it not extraordinary that his Noble and Learned Friend, with his talents and xperience, and, lie might add, his zeal to pitdown ,the C.tholic Assnci4tion, never, in the discusiion of , nseasure. pointed out any of its defects, or even !condescended to appear in his place when it passed through a Committee of their Lordships' House?— ' Another tooie bad been alluded to by his Noble and Pigged Ft tend. He had thrown out a kind of insinua tion against the Ca holies of Ireland, as if they had 'been unwilling to subscribe to an oath pledging them selves to adhere to the Protestant succession. In 18,18 the word ad family" was introduced into the oath for .English Catholics, without ref er e nce to the Protestant succession; and, in 1791. the alteration had been made 'calling on them to swear in the same terms as in that taken by the English Protestants. They h a d not ob jectedl to take that oath. He Mould now call their Lord ships attention to Ireland. The last oath for the Irish Catholics was almost enntemporaneous with the intro duction of the word" lam ly"into the oath for the Eng lish Catholics. The former one was framed in 1793; and, if it had been totally dissimilar, what was there to -how that they would not then have adopted it? He would, wow advert to whist had bappened since 1793, in .rower to the in-inuatioa of his Noble and Learned ' Friend, and he tek called on to say, on behalf tithe . siathotics of I eland, diat there was, no t'linsgatihn for that insinuotion. In 1813 the Bill was brought in con• taming the clause referred ts. Ile would ask how that oath was framed? It was act framed solely by thr Hon. Member who brought in the Biel, but in conjunction 49d in communication with the Catholics of Ireland In 184 and in 1825 Oaks were brought in-containing l the same terms, end be never had heard that the Ca tholics were unprepared to take such an oath. would net have trespasrpd upon then Lordships atten:' 'eon s but. that the ohm entitles of his Noble arid Learned! Friend were meant, though not. directly, to make their way to the country, and to impress their 14 rdships with the 'notion that the Catholics of Ireland were averse. to the tpccil k siffu 91 Protestents to the ;town of this, teal. Load REDESDALE &soused his satisfactlois being told by the Noltie and Learned lord, that the Bpirhin,Catholicsrif kelend VV . ! ready to take the oath to supp ort the Protestant succession. Whether thet was the ease or not, ha did act know; bat be knew, that not long ago. it was not the ease. Advettins to the petitinvns had been preessted to their Lordships,. eperiewil, thitt the. nlAnna, which thore petitions [l44.iianit titatockbe4 turptired 'him. He could assure their Lordships that the language in which therm pr.ti tyins had been Ipoien cf- in that House, had cte:ted great, alum in thkcqupqy. Boejt Ia tuage.waslisult jog to viA Wing cedes of she community. F chis.ofiia part, he doubted exceedingly it peace sand good order 'would' be restored in Ireland by the Bills which were about to be ptoposed. They Irina& never be retired ' one* the Gasernment . iit Ireland- wesbetter administer ed than it halbert' sines the first settlementof the Engl. h in that. Likud—they would. never be restored until' the law was trndeted predominant in that country. His . . -. • . . , - . . • - • • Lt.cosNlNesdale's) opinion on the IEII for iuppr *44 ate . etholic Associating Ws repted44 on their loirliPb, .. teals . That Bill appeared ta him to two 0 chaT ;aver which his respect or that ay pd fur the o hef . ficasse pi Pfliament would pat allow hills to di:. jilts; illyiwas convinced that if the Government of Irelaod had done the+ chity. the C ‘tholic - A ssociati; in night have Dern gup pies ed long lon, by the operati •n 4.1 the Common L I 4. • Lord PLUNEETT, alter adveriog to what had fallen from LOrd Eldon as to his Majesty's determiaa.l tion i•ci thy question, rs (cried to Lord nerlmslale's state nie.t, that Government had not done its duty in pot ting down the C .thole Ass•iciation. He denied Jr t the • laws . of the land • ere not Wily *damnable:44l in Ireland, and sain t that if there oe. aoy sice in the ad minis; ra ion of thy laws ill that counts y. it s sisied in th lasts themselsg-. He miter:des that such observatuns qs had been suede by the Noble and Learned Lorrt(Re. desdale) were likely to do great mischief in Ireland. He thook,ht Viet the summary power gibes' to the Est entice for a shoat time was c •ICPI4;CJ to be most effect.ve. The Nible and knitted Loid had said that the A .;;.sta von {mild have be. a put Joao by a p incipte in the cow mon law, but as a lawyer he could not ape, with tl e Nalie and Learned Lord. Ile would mike an obhea cation or two upon the particular mottos' befote •hem. He tivught that it had not been brought V., ward with the frankness be expected from its Noble and Learned Mover. He thooght that observ.• Non; had been thsowit out exceedingly unfair east iajotion; to the Cathy. lies, He wouht seta to the various Acts respecting the oaths to be taken by the Catholics of Ireland, and to an Act, the 18th George 111. introduced, not by advocates of the Roma* Catholics, but by two most distinguished persona of the opposite side: After this series of enactments cape the Act of 1793, the Act with reference to the English Catholics having previ• usly passed in 1791, which Act was indeed one of great liberality, and of greater justice. Now, it should be recollected that the Roman Catholics had, a short time previous to the year 1793, mode attain decla rations disallowing certain Wiwi points in their alleged belief ; and it was subsequently proposed that these de clarations should be embodied in an oath. But Noble Lords sir uld be SWIM that the Act of 1793 did not introduce the oath which thus Act included ; it merely said that those who took the oaths of tl • 13th and 14th George HI should he entitled to certain bene fits. Wh. n the Bill of 1813 was 1011'011OCed to Parliament it was greatly cavilled et by the agitators of Ireland, who declared eh It they considered it a mea sure of infliction rather than of relief ; but, although the riath contained in it was precis4y the aeon es the( * 1 the Act o t 1793, no objection was then made to this oath. In the Rill of 1821 the oath of 17911 was net in terms intredoced, because by that Bill it was proposed to have an oath common to both Protesersots and or with a slight vatiation. The oath of 1793 thesefore have beim nnoecessaly; but the plan was subsespently, altered, and then:tin of 1113 end 1799 re sorted to. and the. thrill' I passed thellouse of Commons. fhere w as, then, no evidence of any Catholic conspitacy against the Protestant succession in. 1825.. in 1881, or in 1, 1813; but the Noble sad Learned Loris bad gone back for proofs of such conspiracy to the year 1773, and the saws io tradition had thus hero 'abed up in order to !show some ground I,r imputing disloyalty to theßomas Catholics, who, he would say, were as loyal a class of (his Majesty's ;objects es the Noble Lord who threw out soca insinuatitors—against which was the evidence of the oaths, the acts, and the characters of tbo it Roman Catholics. The acts alluded to by the Noble god Learned Lord had never been acted upon except for some •specia,l purpose. Certainly every Irish Priest bad taken the oath, because, until he bad so doe., be could not be relieved from certain penalties be bad incurred; r and every Roman Catholic who was appointed to any official situation took it also, because, until he bed done so, he could not hold tech office. This was_ the caw its Ireland, and doubtle.; in England also. The Roman ICatholics, however, had only taken those oaths "bets it became necessary so to do; and he contends(' that a voluntary and ungecessary applicatino to take them would hate subjected the applicant's loyalty to mete suspicion. The N ble and Learned Lord then sieved, ." That. in addition to the Returns moved, for by the Ni.ble and Learned Earl (Eldon) there be laid before the House an account of the number of Pro testants of the Church of England, and of Protestant Dis-en•ers, who have taken the oaths of allegiance. su :premacy, and abjuration in Great liroain, since the yeas 1813. under the Act of el e Ist Ge irge I. chap. IS, to. gether with returns of all Protestant Disseates. whb have taken the oaths of allegiance, supremacy, and abjuration. in Deland since the year 1n13.' The Lill r f ELDON, in reply, said th .t so far from 'feeling any disinclination to the motion of the Noble and Learned Lord, be should feel happy to second it. He thought, however, that the Noble and Learned Lord had very much mistaken the nature and object of the motion which, be had submitted to their Lordships The Noble Lord had indeed - quite misconceived the views upon which the information was required. Their Lochhips had heat d and knew ;hilt it wet, the amen • tion of his Majesty's Government to admit the CA.' tb(giCS to political power, and that in doing so they .wets to take from them tee tiin securities for the main tenance of the inC4olability of the Pioteseant Establish ments. If, tweeter, they were to have man itiet.at all, it was the object of Pailkonent tos,take oars that those secutities . shoishi be as effectual as possible. He denied that be bad even contemplated, as the Noble Lord seemed to imaeine, the failure et the . Protestant issue of the Home of Ucenswic k ; on the contrary, he pt dyed most sincerely and fervently for vie continuance if that succession, and that GOD might give them length of :days in the land over which, they ruled in honour. kle did out, however, think that the Noble Lord bad applied himself to the purpose ot the motion when he went into -a detail of the proceedings previous 'to the year 179$ 'What was it to those who *Oad joifoerbAlio, vrou-the • subject of the taking of their oaths that such and such things had taken place. pervious to that year ? He cone fessed himself, indeed, unable to comptebeed the bearing of soole of the Noble Lord'aohsertattons needle 441 1 * understand what the Noble Lord on theWooksek meant by imputing to him an attempt to inherence their Lord .ships by insinuation--(Hear). He would tell that Noble ;Lord that he could not continue to cell that man tailed Imp°, inspired co him. 'itch an attempt; and when the Nubia lewd talked of insinuatioaa, he would remind him that he (Lird Eldon) had been, at least, consistent to his . political course with reference to the questioe Iwhich. now agitated the comas y. The : Noble Lord then .proceeded to contend, in reply: to another observation of the Noble Lord on the Wookaek, that the Act for dis solving theAssociavon was totalie unnecessary. It would .be in : the secollection.of their Lordship& although the Noble Llict charged him with remaining silent, that by lhadiotweryed, mote than once, whets the subject was Amite! consiretatioo,lbat: the law in Ireland Must he y4er,l d l OkeakiT o o. l he..-14 1 1401. 4t the. power' pronietht at, conmsnale.t for. the_ nppressios each 'Assiaciationic wets qn• e. ffe. lent w k.hoot theaasi.tanee 01 the Legislatute. He had said more than once, that :b ,N , bleat J Lea:neater., (I. • rallikett) mu.t have !wen unable to procure evidebce tit: 'chums! ani tre able proceedings of the Association. or the common law would have been found quite sufficient for the poni-h. me..t of the offenders. The law Eng I a :Id had hven lotted sufficient for putting down the affiliated §ocieties thr. atened a alerting at• Vol fr, and he had mote tha t mice vip e-sed his burpri.e !Set the law which could he !endefe4.l y i rifectusl su England was wholly, inappl;.. cable to I eland. After some further observations upon •he su ject or the misapprehensios of his meaning which he atuibuted to the Noble and Leaned Lnrd (Lord I);unkett) the Noble E.tl concluded by declaring, tha t he did suit feel him elf vt leJ upnn to answer the bitter. ranuns of the N tble Lod on the Woolsack when be was told by. 'ls .t Noble Lord that he (Lord Eldon) evaded the es. ezptession of his opinion., And attempted ta contrey his hostility by insinsatioaa—(Heal). To the Ai. tervatsons of that Noble Lard be would ma coude.cead to ee r ily, but he would call upon him to make his actii; Si ions cop.isteet with the character which he had held in that House for the space of ;wally fifty years. The p‘ike of WELLINGTON said he was indulei to offer a few tem; ks piincipaly with a view of pre.: sailing upon both hit Noble Friends to withdraw thole Res°Minns. If instead of these. Resolutions an Aet of lodemeity were introduced, Pr relieving Catholics who had omitted to take an oath, foe the not taking of which no blame could attach, every reason ibis object which Noble Weds could esquire would be obtained. The oath was not one that it was likely every Rom ri:Catholw would be called upon to take; but (as we witernood the Noble Duke) it was an oat i like that introdtketi into a Hill sow in progress through another House; which persons called upon to fill p distillr offices may be required to take; but it was not one that eves) , Ru men Catholic was called upon to take; so that the oasis. :ion to qualify according to the Act could not be the cause of any great blame, or for which there could be any strong gtoend for refining to indemnify for th e amission of ft. I cannot forbear from availing myself, contiuutd the Noble Duke, of tliis opportunity to alai modest' upon the inconvenienee that arises from the trrquent allusion that is mid* to a Bill now in another place. It would be far more convenient to delay these and any similar remarks upon the measure until (should the present Bill pass through another place) it came as a matured measure, fairly submitted 'to the consider.= twat of your Lordships. The discuss; nt upon this ques tion has been anticipated here, no; quite regularay oe fairly, by descsibing it as an attempt to introduce arbf: trary power—as an attempt to subvert the Con Alaimo —to violate the Coronation Oath—and under mine the Established Religion of the country. This has been conveyed partly by insinuatien, arid in part k has been asserted. But, whether conveyed by insinuation or assertion. 'Pow me to say (whet 1 am prepared to prove) that it is sy .(900404. Mean* like, I would suggest that it would be better that these topics Amid be left out of discussion until the subject to which such constant reference it made comes regularly trader your Lordittipt' notice. Until the question wuich wilt be 10104 ht logetesd pursuant to the gracious teem.. neisdenon from the Throne shall be submitted fairly to the House, such assertions as i have adverted to should be laid aside. With respect to the law for the Suppres sion of the Association, that had been passed in 1825, it was true:tsat that Act was not effective, and it was found necesseey to amend the Act in this Session of Partition& I would here remind my Noble Fated (Lord Eldon), who now complains that the Bill of 1825 was ineffeetuaL and maintains that the Common Law was sufficient for the suppression of the Asso ciation, to consider when the Bill of 1825 wiawimadee consideration—in that year, that the first paragrtpts of a very able dispatch from the Lord Lieutenant'avlre-- land was. that there was nothing in the forns,lostho tion, or proceedings of the Association which the cons , mon law could interfere with; and my Noble Friend (Lord Eldon) was a party to the Bill for putting down the Association in that year. If the common law was then sufficient, in the opinion of my Noble Friend, tv put down the Associatioo, wherefore was he a party to the concocti aof an additional measure to enfcrce the suppression of it?—(Loud cries of hear). It wasbeeause the OOMMon lane, even sub the anistance of the Acts t 1825. was insuffieieat is 'oppress the Association, that recourse was obliged to be had this `es ion of Parliainest for the purpcke of investing she Lord Liewenant of Ins. ,land with estiaordinary powers to put down rho Asss. ciation—(Hear, bear). The Noble Lord bad said that there was sufficient power in the country to enable the' Officers of the Crown to put down the Association.— 'Tis true there was ample military power in the country to pot it down. No doubt thece was—bat safely arli. tart' power is not the description of force which oats would desire to see put in operation for the 'oppression !ot'such an Association —(Loud cheers)—bst that power and authority which belongs to the law, and which May be carried into execution by ordinary means—(Chee t 4. The Noble Duke conchs:4oJ by recommending his Noble Fs iends to withdraw their Resolutions, and sug gested as the best substitute that could be introduced for them, a Bill to indessaify all perions who suffer under any divinalt6cations from having °asked to take the oaths prescribed by the A.ts of 1791 and 1793. The Earl of ELDON said, that as the Noble Duke. •had "erred to a Itht had taken place during the period that he was in his Majesty'. Councils, be would recall the memory of the Nubo Duke towhat was hisopinios at the period to which the Noble Duke - referred. What he bad said was, that the Act of 1825 would be soli. fiery to the reinforcement of the Common Law ; but that without the Common Law, that Act of itself would be ineffectirce. tie would further recall the attention :of the Noble Duke to what be had said respecting the ,Common Law. He had maintained that the Common Law was istStient to teach the conduct of individuals and, by: reaching the conduct of individuals, the proceed. toga of the Association would have bees impeded, end 'thereby the Association itself effectually Suppressed. He thought t h at opportunities for proceeding against individuals foe their conduct bad been permitted to escape; and so strongly was be impressed with this opinion, that when the propriety of a prosecution was intended, in consequence of an attack upon a late la mented Royal Pet sooage, be (Lord Eldon)was adverse to such a prosecution, from an unwillingness, after the many other opportunities for prosecutions that had bar neglected, t r risk the possible failure of a ptosecatioain that particular case, and thereby disturb the last mos .rents of that Royal Personage., (We believe the Noble/ Lord *dewed• to a speech of Mi. Strict animadvertiog spon his lets &nal Highness the Duke of York.) MI Noble Earl concluded. by staring that be felt himself .411ed,upon, its justification of his own honour and cons oncney, to mention this circumstance. The Noble Bast and Lord Posner: epee withdrew I th es sawa Iteentudna and Amendment, af te r w hi c h t h e H ouse a d' ss . sus vu Nuts rionca. 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