Star. — London, England, 1829-02-24 00:00:00

, es' , an •,. •:ue•-• .r Is i•I ; Ile), c t red ' in Luudtru. anal such ocsnerences were frequent in Ireland, where the Print close at the head of a pa co l of i l ers oal ruined isito;a Sebald or meeting, - and created riot and disturbance. He had teceived letters from in Ireland' informing him that this w as the plan which the Priests intended to pursue, and that they .were determined in that *ay to knock up every institution which was adverse tat them. He (Lord itedenfale). as Borne of their Lordships wire aware. had :enact! in Ireland, and knee a good deal of the bish - chalsrtter, and be feared there was no great irm rose `went since he lei: Ireland. Notwithstandiag allthat he• had heard; he witsfulty impressed with the opinion th rt "thelrish were a quiet, peaceable people if lef' to them selves. The corm nual •inter ferenee of the Pe iests.however, slid theda no service. He had known some of the most Vespeftkbleambngst that cilia, and one of them Informed trim that the liar li:intent of t country had made a .neat insist:lkt in founding the College at Maynooth. - 15.-fore that College was established the Priests were the leorldien of respectable persr4t anf . wee sent to Sala- Imancs and el ewh, re for' education, where they re 'ceiveri the education of Gentlemen, and mixed with utlemen intended for r•rer professions. and where they• were taught the nece.set y of a Government, and of submissi• n to it. In the College of Maynnoth, however, eduction was Otis. 'and the consenue..ce was, that a number of persons of the lowest description were ad mitted amongst the Clergy. Porn' 41( the meanest 'extraction were brought up in this• College, and in tI manner not likely to make them good subjects. This view was confirmed by the information which he (Lord Redesdale) had received from a variety of sooner. The real Catholie . Gentry of Ireland no longer sent their sons to the chinch or to the continent for education. There Wei" 2,060 priests now in Ireland who bad received their edocatton at Maynooth.. It was quite notorious that these persons did not entertain verylairourable feelings towards the' Govetnntent. He sincerely be lieved that the triests created much disturbance, and he -med that there was no disturbance in which not a priest at tt a bolom. The Roman Ca- Gentry, be believed, would- concur with him in about the peens. - They wets well aware rete not treated by the priests in Ire'and as Catholic . Gentry in other "countries were ly their prie Formerly the younger sons of Gentlemen were of:en the priests of the parish, fathers o: , brothers being pal ishioneks, the. kept up a connection with the Roman Ca ;y. There was no such thing now in Ireland, pries j ts were persons of low extraction, and were appointed for their own parishes for fear they would he degraded tiy their low relations.. He (Lord R.) could not clause the policy of sending. Priests to distant parishes, bin the effect was very bad. It was tl.e cus tom formerly, too, in Ireland. to give the descendints of those Roman Catholics whose estates were confiscated the poster of nominating the Priest of the parish in which the confiscated estate lay. This nrnaination kept up a kind of connection lathe/ten the parish Priest and the Gentry, but it had been done away of late years, and the.consequence was, that a very great separation had taken place between the Priesthood and the Gen try. As the country•was now circumstanced it was not .possible, perhaps, so give any thing like a power of presentation to the Roman Cath , lic Gentry ; but it monist be very desirable if any inarfrof connection could baler's:Sp. bet wets the Priest and the'Gentrys Some poi it 104 thsteof nominating the parish Priest existed in every Roman Catholic country in Europe. and even in this eountry. The mansequence of the change which had taken plate in Iretind vat. that thePaiest'ved were . coinpoWlof perions veridiffetent from' those who for merly belonged tolhat demand tbat they - now belonged to persons. of the lowest class. -When he (Lord Redes dale) was in Ireland, it was his duty, officially,. to visit Maynooth; - and hiecnsitrinit eat, that if that establish ment'wes permitted" to continue, it should be 'under', very different regolateoos. If the meanant now- under consideration passed, it would be the duty of every one to endeavour to preset vegood order in Ireland— (Hear). That was the great thing wanted. If-not urged on by persons who meant mischief, he believed the Is isb would be a sober and tranquil pelvis. • He could mention many instances of , tbe good disposition of - the people.... (The Noble Earl here became evidently affected. H. ] sail his recollections of Ireland overpowered hi" sad he sat down in deep feeling). Viscount LORTON begged, anatt- Irish resident,' to rifer his testimony in' corroboration of what bad just fallen from his Noble and Learned Friend (Lard Redes dale). He assured their Lordships" that the Irish Priests were opposed to the improvement-of the-people in every branch of edecitintr, ant adverse lathe 'British Govern. , mentin everything. Lord REDESDALE begged their Lotdships pardon for. withdrawing so abruptly; he bad just recollected an instance of the affection of his own workmen , whilst in Ireland. and they were illitoman Catholics (Heari, The Earl of WICKLOW was well acquainted with Ireland, and could iISSOft , tbeit'LUedships that, some persons amongst she- Catholic priesthood mops, well disposed, generally the Irish priesthood wen atorderly and well disposed body of men as any in the Kings dominions., It was-impossible . foe his (Leek Wicklow) to know the nstureof the greatasaasnre odder cOnsiderationibin belied nd dottbrtharwhen . that measure Was sorictioned by Parliansent e ltaiipassed into a law, the Roams Catholics would be found as loyal and well disposed as any other persons • • The Mart/nisi ot•Dawrtsams concurred in 'all that had fallen from the 1019b4 Lord who had just addressed the House. Taw Iriih Nesthood were gee nerally cur& regulated, prelim; mid valuable alms of salmi , : - liar they had , * dillicaltiatt, considering the iuintenie Population they had looting vp to thetn, and 16 inferior degree of improvement at which that pO. pnlation had arrived as compared with this country. Hitherto' 'they' *ere excluded • subjects, end' great al lowericet shOold be made fur their falling into error; airier)* he was convicced - they -would now reject as hiKirlylespiroper and unbecoming ; and, isherstbey were - to a participatiouln the Onwiritatiort, treshad . that the Priests and the population would Ilienrullves faith's), Irryal,end de.ser lap •I. 'ltspwrwas'eliss receive*, sod ordered so be road meant ; . .. . .. . I r w ..w. u llre, "P sr I :.**" . " °L . • : ill Oils OE COMMO NS. . . Mr..PLAatTA antivedthat a errs Writ be iwuel for a Member Parliament for the borough of Westbskry,Jektien room de JISE nveed this lamt mat be issued ter a Member 'ottani - at fer Newarli-upes.Tien4 is flicteellt et Mt , aitstia..-00ciel. ~• .. , .• • • • - - C4* 1 . 11 ; ,EY presented Petitioniapinst the.Cditek ads' t'e4 dr Tplitttel autl,Allllbay, and from the Remy 121.I2Vtzr Iforeny, an:* the .cousny ot .Aipaisbin• x ec t 4 h., w N pr.:tested two - retitims rum ‘, l, . t auk). 8.-orgisr le•tb.. cptiety Qi. Moshist laveur.:#rthiqq mii• Mr. is 1., J. L preserve • Ktition;AEnea bi thiaiwiglikt - 111 ` 1 ' AOW.I*Y. nt,1t.11.110 . nrh0091 . ,/, ~;tioyesiiiSriies-a r .. 9 ' agmist me I.:Amok t 14m% ' ' - -.. sit JOHN LOW I'lllM pr;W:istati &it P riestlier iNetAiiiir *fa P 464999 in the we nn yof Cumberland, led one trim doe Osegg.. t burehetordenseouti.lubsibitanta of the Town et 'lllll l l,O l l. il ti.e saidigeentg. . . .... . . • .•••••••.:-. 1 : waaratorobei r there was no il t thulic (lent all he milt 'that' they we . the liiiman , tredted by tti .tcoantry Cireni .. I • "?, and , their tai " , f parish priest tholitGentrl ' -for ti.e pries .I beret appoin highlrimprap admitted to a ti.) doubt that nee' theetnelm lblystvirt hinge to•menitir... AdOltinAlit I • • • • • I Mr. PLAitT) he serve In ParLr Ihr Manasseh -fa, Sir W. GUISI Pert. • Mort 4 Mt 811111 LE • Pai:lbe; - el crown, 46 4 Mr. ./: 111t0'' "►~ • r • 1 I' !f. `r i : 4, . , ••••Iii•• iron OW Prett urn Inhabitants M loonford. county of Longturst. from the Gentlemen, Clergy, and Yerebehlers of the Barney of Grained, and from Ballemation, in the same county. 110. BUT LIR CLA It Kitireseited • Position trait the Roman Cat ivo* Inhallitano of Cutlet:maw, eomnty_.d 11411telials finder id' the Catholic CWmi. Colin,' ROCH PO RT preiesteil s Polities@ spinet As Cathie' Claims from Pails, M ihnotick.w.To be printed. • Admiral HARVEY presorted similar Peddles from Liulehury and • two sober plumb' mere=.—To hi 'dated. • •• Sir Y. SOMBRVILLI presented elven • Petition , teem the meaty of Meath, praying for uuquabfid itnnocipatios ; and also for the repeal of the- bob-letting and Vestry Acts. Mr. MOORE presented two Petitions from the county of Wei. ford, against the Catholic Clalets.-..T0 be pekoes'. • Mr. LOCH presented a -Petition silted, hi- too, persons, In habitants of the eastern part of the amity of Orton, against any further concessions to the Roman C tboiks -To be Waled. . • Admiral RV ANS pretested a Phtitius to. the same aim from Deneraile, in the vicinity id Cork.—. To he rimed. Mr. M. id A X•WILLL presented. Petition spina the Catholic Claims from Castle Ryes and Rathconnich, snooty of Cork. and from A Weer , and three ether parlakes.in the county of Cavan. Mr. LA TOUCHE promoted fetn•Patitions trent places in .the county of Kildare. in favour .of.Catholk Claims.. Mr. LITTLETON pres e nted tw o Posiltitioa against the, Cuba. Ile Claims front•the pariah of Almostheld sod thether parish In Staffordshire. • • , •.4 - Mr. DU.4CO\IBR presented aweasimilat. Petitions. frees the, parishes art Lunn!. y. Kirkdale, and another parish in Yorkshire. .1 Mr. W Mill rose to present a similar Petition from the Clergy of the rurel deanery of Gloucester. . • Mr. B. COOPRIt said, he had been desired to support the pl a ied. prayer of Poling', a newest with which be cheerfully com- • . General KING .preeentess nodise. Petition from the Protestant inhabitants of a barony in the county of Alayo. , , Sir W., W. WYNN presented a Petition from corporals of the Ride Corps of the Royal Denbigh Regiment of Militia, praying the Howe to take theft car into maskieretioss.. A Amine pe. Woo was presented no behalf of the corporals of the Anglesey I Regiment of hi Lord BECTI Vst presented a Petition from the Remo Catholle inhabitants of the parish of Castktoo i county of Meath, against the Sub-letting Act ; and a similar Pe tition from the Roman Ca tholic hththitants of soother parish in the same.coonty. Mr. CORTE'S presented two Petition against the. C.atitelic. Claims from two parishes in the county et &meet. The Hon. Member said, that one of these Petitions was signed by. envy Freeholder in the pariah.. ' Mrs D. W. HARVEY moved fora return of the namaber af pesetas Gird since IeSS, In the Court of King's Bench, distin guishing those Sled for the plaintiff from those for this defendant; also Of a copy of the application made to his Majesty's Commis- Anvers for Ihdlding New Churches, for a certain sum of money for the purpose of building a new Church .in a parish NI UM., pool, with a copy of the amount of advances made by the Con. mission's ; also for a- return of the number of Cherish:SAL the Sir A. CA MPORLL prevented a Petition from the Trades • House, Glasgow, against any further concession to the Ronan Ca thotic-. Alt. J. WOOD presented a redden from the Protestant Dis senters in l'arAdise• strct t Chapel, in Liverpool. in favour of Ca t atone Emancipation. • _ _ General C SCU R maned for a return of all ships _ bj steam which were nuniined in the several p u n s of Great Britain, distinguishina the puns, and the usual destination and species of trade to which each vessel was confined; and also a return of the number of ship* now in the course of being built, and which were calculated to be navigated by steam. Mr. SYKk S presented two Petitions from the Merchsote, Traders, and Shnpiteepers.of the town of Kingstoe upon-Hull, praying to be reheved from the oppressive elects a t the tax upon receipts, and also from the house tax. Mr. BRIGHT said that the taxes of. which the Petitioners complained, pressal very *evil, upon the industry of the shop. keepers and middling tradesmen, and he believed that, if returns upon the subject should be-laid before the /louse, it would appear that the amount of the taxes paid by a few strestsfel of middle. rate bosses is trading towns eaceedel much the amount which was derived from all the villas and splendid mansions in &Wand. The Petitions were then read. and ordered to be Fringed. Mr. BARING moved for copies of any memorials which leo' been presented to the Government since the beginning of the year MHO, oa the subject of the Nautical Assessed and of the Board if Longitude; and also for au account of the expense of the lett abaniof longitude from i s Institution until its tetatination.— The returns were ordered to be laid brfdre the House. Mr. HUNK presented a Petition from an lvidivldusinansed William Hairy Instill. residing at Islington, praying that a plan which be ptoposal for facilitating the apptoack to the New London Bridge should.* telersed to the Committee of the House now sitting on the' subjeet.—Ordered to lie on the table. - . Mr. WILLIAM PEEL presented returns relating tn clingiest* In England and Wales during the past year. Mr. DICK placated a Petitionitous the Protestant Inhabitants et the parish ut St. George, In the city of Dublin, against any further coon-saw to the Roman Catholics. The Hon. Member said,, that it bad been his 'intention to trouble the House, ea pre,- wallas this Petition, with a few observations no the'estrieedlowy conduct of a Right Hon. Gentleman who was not now • Member of the Hansa He . should, bewever, in puesemsepee On Right Gouda:ma's absence, defer to atiother,oppeetseits . what)* had to say on the subject:. laved, as that Right Hen. Gentleman had thoughtlit to dewy his no a sheet notice, it would biairdslag eatraordinary.tbe P =rotora a hisfoream opinions iddi as little ceremony as* bad gliondeped them. • Mr. BERNA I ! moved for certain Returns congaed Wi t h the &airs of the Corporation of the Trinity House._ , Mr. JEPHBOI4 presented a Petition from the Roman Cadidie 'llliehltants of all parish of Whitecburch, in the at Cork s VIM the Vestry. Act.: Mr. BROWN LOW gave notice, that on Tbrapdag neat, be wood introduce a measure* relative to the Drainlp id at ti tsieleilend. The Honourable Mauna then preseatod fres aim parishes Is the couatyot Tyros*, Armagh, sad Cavan, is favour of Catholic Emancipation. . , • . • The SPEAKER then misdated the House that, is °bedlam * to the recommendations of two Select Committees of that Homo, 'grimed in IMSIS and Mk a general lodes had been prepared to hears& of the House from the time of the Haloes with Ito. hwiupsi the'year • ll26. The Right .Hoooorabie Geademaw thei asked K it was the pleasure of the HOW that the lade= shnuid he printe4, which, on the motion of the Cuaacesmaa of the Ewan; ,quer, was then ordered. The SPEAKER farther Informed the House that, is the meet isionste coasideratioa, a plan had been prepared fee supplying the dropped Sobs et the historical proceedings of. the House by lame. Iry the Journals the pruceedlogs which took pine on Co.. of the whole House, is wen as those whisk take Owe la the Hosea itself. The plan which had beta adopted would pro. 'Oven* inceavetaissoe lathe conduct of the public business, and would supply the (July defieleacy which sow tabled upon the 'mods, by reeording many important proceedings which amid oily tate place la a caninittes of the whole House. , r The House expressed their approbation of the Speaker's eons. ; and the proposed plan was, on the motion of the of the Eachelser, ordered to be carried lam effect. . ': r . 111115 A LatiniK • Claths melee 'nits CH iINCELLOR of tile EXCHEQUER !'that the Report su the Conintiturept,fitapply be brouibt up, Mr. O,IsIEH.L, seeing the Right Hon. &cretary for the Colonies in his place, wished to ask if any steps had been taken by his Majesty's Government tiwards re lieving this country •from she expense and mortality which were the consequence of keeping up the colony Of Sierra Leone? .. Sir GEOfiGE -.MURRAY sail, that, . not - havine been aware of the Hon. Metibeilb inteation to put this question, he bad not come prepared with any specific information upon the point. , He was however. able to state•that the -Government had been for some tint, back making all possible reductions in the of the colony, with a•view to pave the way to a possible abandonment ofitat some future period. •One circum stance which caused great obstructlon to the wishes of. ticwevateent upon,the -subject Was, that the Colonies cantaioed a great number of tiberated Africans. who. if the colony shoo Id be um ahandonediwould be obliged to tOONIIIO that >Werner enedition.;.." • - • • r. HUM E ewe ed, %het hi answer. to +a • question which he hid put tastyear,tv had been given to on dor.tand that arrangements we.e in progress for re moving . nr esteb'sishmentu entigelir from the colony of SierieLoorre. irbe bud nereo under,tood it. be-would have immediately brought the subject under the tonal derasion 44-the•il harm web • deep• regret that es heard the mower which bad ja.cbaau 4 iveb by the Right Moomwable-Seermary•few the Colonies. .lo was .. wild/et:eget that Ise 4trend •his Majesty't.Goveratl 4; . . Jai t-,...?5.• .r..V.1) 1 • ~•• •*. kte win •ti. 12 U. P •00. •fr 2 • . b...s s J ‘C. ait•Ca .4 1 . 11 , CC. .illl g • • which h .d brat notoriously the tomb of a greater number of Eng lishmen than any other place on the face of the globe; and that. without a single advantage attisadlolf it• .spiee of the atonality which ocruired year at er rear otte Governor after anothei, sod one corpi Atm another.' . The Yeast* assigned by the'Right'Hoo 'Gellman v/r -alio most unsatisfactory f atoire4olortoveryilay Valise large 'gem* to add- to. the thentbet of the eaptnrets Africans, and thus adding to the difficulty of which the Right Hun. Gentleman complained. Thee were many ways in which thou unfortonase individuals might be disposed of better 'thin leaving theta in * a condition• which was•wotse Man . ordinaty slairety... He hoped,' therefore, they would no longer be considetectan - ob staCe .to a removal of our establishment from Sierra, Lisone. Ii hi. Majesty's Miniitero did not adopt some measure on the subject, he triaged some Iton. Member would bring itsdittinctly tinder the consideration of thr House ; and if no other Member came leeward for that purpose, he pledged himotf m &Ito. .Sir GEORGE MURRAY Said, he did not recollec' having last Session given the Honererable Mem' er for F *moose the information to which be bad alluded. II repeated, that an arrangement was in , progress foe abandoning Cape Coast Castle; but hewao.not aware that there was a.iy intention at present at abandoning Sierra Lone. With tevect to the diftleties in the way of the latter, they were difficulties -for the oteasion, 'Of which he was not responhible. • ! Mr. HUSKISSON had never intimated to any one, Airing the trate that he had thehonotte to bold the seal. of the Colonial Department, that it was in the comer! • ,dilation of his Majesty's OoverameAt to withdraw out 'ebtablishments altogether film Stet ra Leona Every step irr4cticable. hovrever.had been takes to reduce the mow • talky in that colony ; and with th it View the duties of it had been made to - devolve as miith as 'possible on the. wohentary residents in the colony, and on the African Wien he stated that the private properly in bit Dingy ice: in the colony amoontedin virtue to above a milli.* sterling, it w sCii at ruce be sint'tnat any I .lll.ldea abandonment of it would be attended with in. justice as w.ll as With difficulty. • The sante obstacles, however, di i net esist with seference to Clio CoasiCastles Lord NUGENT, adverting to the Reports shieb bad been made by the Ctutertsistionett., who, three *years ago. were beat out to ioquire into e state 44 our Colonies on - the coest, of Africa, 'ridged to know whether it was in - ended, in the presets, Session, to introduce. any !mature founded no those Reports?J General GASCOYNE observed, thavishat Was sirable was, isot-metely that ecentiray.`shoulil be eon. , salted, with reference tis 'this colony; bur fiat a feeling of huinanity should- inteifeie to prevent the temptation of sleet emolument, which now existed, its induce so marry 'permits .to go out to periab.— If no atherMember wash' -do so; be-would move for a return of the smother *CI Europeans , who 'had Wen; lost in a Colony more destructive fo human wife thins any establiahment ol ii similar kind that had e'er existed. Sir GEORGE MURRAY 'rimed that he -hat as Mach humanity as the Gallant - Genet!. . - It .was , tiet estirelron she principle of 'etitoary th it he had made statement, but on the principles Of "humanity also. The case War, indeed, one -of -humanity client be nianity.' He repeated that. since be entered upon the race he had endeavoured to pave therway for an ulti `elate abandonment of the Colony, . Mid that he. should be vary happy whenever it might he in his power to propose carrying that object into atm. - • Mr. LABOUCHERE said he would oak, that oppor 'tittaitj of exSressing his hapelthat the Right Honour- able Gentleman would pay attention to the Canada,. He hoped the •Right .Honourable Gentleman would mention whether it wee his intention to afford the House tiny infirmation on the state of this Colony during the .present Ses,ion. He was sorry to understand from the newspapers that discontent still rageit there. He bi 'Hived the /loose was shortly to be called on to vote a large 'slim of money for fortifying these provinces, arid he thought it would be little less than cosmic to sop. pose that we could reclaim them by any iortificatioos, Without the rod will of the people.( Heeatreated the Right Honourable Gentleman nor to lose the golden opportunity of conciliating the people of .Canagia fate it was too late. Sir GEORGE MURRAlrtaid, be warmo4 anzioos to bring the subject under the consideration Of the Hobse. He was cohfide4 that touch ccu dbe June fb the improvement of the Canada., but the Honourable Gentleman, who had been a very active member of the tanada Commrtee, mast be aware that furthet iefot- 1 motion was netessary befoe the whole subject could be fully brought under the consideration of the Hod es. That information was now in course of being obtained.' Sir •LEXAND2II. ORAN!! brought up the Report et the Ceaunittee of SopOy on the Are _y Rstirnates. The CHANCRLTAOR of do R*CHlLlatiltit moved that the Rapes be agreed to. . Mr. HUME said, he had a. number of Pethions to present. praying a reduction of tuition, which he thought the public bad a tight to expect—but he was confident . no reduction would take place while' such a' large force was kept up. In 1823 the Hour was ilamotout for reduction, and his Majesty pro mired that reduction should be made ; but Mibisterk iaatead of keeping that promise, were calling upon: the House to vote estimates to a large amount. The pre sent army estimates were $ll 0001. more than in the yeir 1824, and the whole of the estimates for Ariary. !dairy, and Ordnance would be a million a year more tbap its 1828. We had now 120,000 men in arm.-- be was confident one half the nuOther would be fully. sufficient, and he hoped the Noble. Duke at the head of the Government trivial& rake . deck,ive measures foe re;. doting the' expioses of the team:l.—The Report was aimed ie. - Hr H. tiotIiDINGE said. he should seat weep baba* to the ROSSO the Annual Meeting BilL Mr. HUSIR hoped its soonnous ilownsioas would JR curtailed. It was ieadered scarcely intelligible by Its unneeessary length. • Sir EINIIDINGS had great sat!sfactica be assuring tbis . Hun. Gentleman that its dig leasteap witreiedisid 944 14 .. ins ADINVISIXS LOX.. • • On the motional the CH tftelt LLOit itt the IIICHROPIM the douse resolved Itself Late a Oweasitterst thembele House on the Life Ansaity_ NEL The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then rise,apursuent co saintimation that he had given to the House towards the close of the last Session of Pulia mein, that at the commencement of the present one be should be prepared to introduce to the House a memento authorizing his, Majesty's Government to grant amok ties on terms different from those at present in exitteine.. His object in new modelling the system was to crest the principle laid down in the former Act (sepealed last Seuion) With respect to the granting life annui ties, and to lay down a more accurate mode of granting' them, at once to satisty the purchaser and to protect the interests of the public. In that Hill; there ivould, be made time necessary alterations. With respect to the exteesionrif the principle of the Bill he would say that the Acts which autborisestthegrantingofannuitiee *ere coofined solely to the granting than on single lives, joint lives. and lives is reef:jun. Now, his Bid• would go .to extend the pte,eat sassinue so as to enable ..• . • • .• • • , ._ •1. , - r • I, do' . the Commissi neis to xl4. :an sue .fus t-r ins f )easss eitber for a definite term of years. or at ao eapiratiou of some &tore period. He wasqu•te aware th at th ere wou ld sat Wage...end dispositio n ,toll therughout the country to patches. au•surties so tesininatie—th4t the public ist general wt ell not be disposed to mike payn ems oelt of their present means to smote an increase' income for a definite numl er of years only. Ilcd d not. thee. .ftwe. anticipate that thisargument would be cricked intal elfe-t to any Brea , extent. It would be diferett.hou. ever, with respect to the delfrred annuitiFx. He pro-. posed to add t, the 841 soother rovieums, nt,t to be round in theirs me, oaer although it was not . ltkitly tbat pi - tree- would to •anp greet extent :pay..slown Attie stoney in•the'purch4setof terulleable annuitbpt• rt. it 41. p tired to bin that, if. romal power were Oren to enable them to m Ike annual payments with the • mew to the lu u e increase or their incom-. it • would be produeive 00 considersble heoeit, The Bili•woold err toeoeble the Conto64. nen ti secure to Mit. thongh. probably, not numerous class. a means of tasking a provision for thole:we, not by the insrneJiate scrifice ni capital, but by tine exercise of thrift. The• ,test; and perhaps the most important subject to which he would call the attention of the Committee, was the elteiratious that had taken place in the. strode °teaks.. 14144 annuities. Trie Committee was some that, in pa ping tie turniet Aut. the Legislators had• adopted • trielmodenf calculation the in use in all the is-urante Whin of the .crountry.—be • meant the Northampton sape4 • The Cqmmittee, and-indeed every eadividoal whb had an ndeJ to• the• subk•et. must be ewe/ethic ob.ske table* .plesrnte4 i mo e untsvoutatle view of hulasn lite , than chow of later calculators. This was twin new duct instil had asiipt.out ut swims causes. The public mind bad Ist lengily !woos satisfied that • thee tables we'd tun applicable to the present day:. , that longevity had increased rapidly of lett r years.—. There way perhaps * some sloth in this•docume I tame— - . - over, those tables were (amed•itt teforosee to the deaths in one town only of this to entry. It was also worthy of observation that the deaths in the town of Northampton doring•the peg iod comprehended in the calculation ax. . . ceedici the bilths during •the whole of the same time t yet, .t the cad of that pet iod, thepopeiai ion was found to ea..ecd the nutobtr at which it blood at the commence- meat of it. It was obvious, therefore, that in the mean time additions had been made to that population otter• wise than by birth. Noe, it was perfectly clear that, for the puipotes of fair•inquiry, the obseivationsi f the calculator should apply only to the same parties. Bendy, to these actually born in that tows for steeple might have beeeltie residence of it at an advanced period of life, and under other circumstances which might ma• terially affect the principle •of the calculation— (Hear, hear, he•r). but whatever . the cause might be, it was suSaient - for oar pupae that chow tables were' feu id to contain views unfavourable to human life, and that the charge apinst the coerrctness of the Nor haute too tabl-s was ism.. In order to as that fact, snot& r set of calculatimis haJ some .time since been made, in doing %stitch it had be:n 'whitely necessary that the lives on which they should be founded• should bet ken, ni.t from a solitary dn. rrigt, but. as far as possible, 'with' ref tence to the United Xingdani; siel, in doing this, it was arP judged achrigable..to t •ke into account the kin of the whole of tore persons who had patchased npities Jur life of Goveinment. becau.e, in eeei ins•ance, an accurate riti.try thoie persons, their dges, and the r eralit of their death, had been kept,. In'adopting - tliat mode of calcolatiowthere was the 'advent/4gs of applying the inquiry throughout to the same iudiviJual The :vault must, therefore, con• sequently be as /ear kis possible ci.rrect. The basis of the eicJlstioa rested, the el re, on solid grounee; firs . the examinst ion of the great tontine • I.kh began ii. 1663 and aided in 1782; neat, tram the list of persons treiciving . exchequer annuities Nader the dorsal 1745, 17460717 s 1766, 1778, Lid 1779 ; and also tram the ',giblet: of the Irish tontines of 1773, 1775. en !of 1778; and of the English tondo, of 1789. To these would be added nb. eav•tions on the lives of those who purchased annuities of Gasman's% ender late Act,. The mass of lives r hey sontemplated would amourrt to 24 000. and, vii•en the compara ively very small numises of ptosnas tensile beaded in the inquiry of Dr. Price (namely. 7 o(al) should be considered. the Committee would •ee the soperlority . of *umber was •so• great, as' to glee the presser calculation stronger. rl.ims •on its. art mice. . Of ten thousand persons or the age of torsi, shire died • .134 r before they reached the age • f of ty one. Of the same rosinber, comprising pers. us if .be age of fifty years, 6 166 Ted before they bed the age of 51. This be wisheJ to state in pattiCUlar, as that way •the average tags of she •persons apply ifig toe annaidera H. re he should remark she great dilfs.re ice between the dined is • of the lives of men and some.; holding antacid's. Of 10 000 women, aged flirty ye .r., Imy 112 ded before theyleached the term of 41 years: while t.e number 4 i met dying undevihs same cicumstances *mourned tct 184; and of women of the a‘e of fifty. only 120 - died before they reached firrpone ; while 160 men died between the ages of fifty and fifty-one. 19 these read s it was found necessary to make up two tables of annuities, one for men, and another for women; but, as that arrangement would lead' to produce very volu• ominous calculations, it would not be expedient that they should be appended to the Act of Parliament as the for mer tables used to be. The Lords of the Treasury would have those tables arranged. and a copy of them should be deposire.: with the Commissioners for the Redaction of the National Debt, to be consrliteJ by persons wishing to make calculations on annuities; and another copy withthe Lads of the Treasury. This plan would.psie every necessary faci:ity to persons desirous to °Maine*. nuities, and so teed much to the ultimate reduction f tie National Debt. By die former Act of Parliament the • Commissioners for the reduction of the Debt retained in their hands the amount of stock deposited with them for ' annuities. He should now propose.that they stidirld'sct an a Merest principle, more simple and ilitelligibie—s. : mpoely, that the stock transferred on account pt annei. tie, to the Commissioners of the National Debt should . be cancelled, and paid" into the consolidated fund, and that the annuities be paid out of that fund lis soy olbst • sum of expenditure. This would tend to Wescott speedy reduction of the debt: He hoped that the Hoist *add agree. to the revolution fl that-the Croornisefostersios the • reduction of the National Debt be ranbolised.to great • annuities on tablenthat shall be hereafter determined by the Lords of the Treasury.* Mr. WARBURTON' t loss o tht that the tables ones to be given AO the' public; ib Order to enable them to amnion whether the 'sables sae *meg eflbeit sam. fidence. Mr. Alderman WA ITHM AN wish e.. 1 that the Hose and the publ.c should have some memos of forming a judgment on the accuracy or the calcaltriem. The Government bad expended LOW within dit Ist g4B year* on getting the tables calculated; yet those tables. were incorrect. Why may not the table b shoot to be proposed be incorrect atm? The tables say be-so arranged as not to form any 'subhuman addition to the Act of .Parliament. Siam the Nerthempteatable• • -- - --r--- •.• • ra- eas!a: . ..IN:k , a111114 4slll • 'la •41 :• *- . lsr h , I