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to 43. Thus, notwithstanding all the activity that had been exerted against the Roman Catholics in the year 1812, yet the difference between the 'dative numlows. p o and con the question, in that year. and t' e last occasion on which the subject, was discussed, was be tween one and forty-five. The Noble E tit had stated that, 'in the rejection of the proposed met ure, there was left to them the choice of two evils, OM of which was the lireaking up of the present Adminis tration. 11 (the Earl of Falmouth) certainly would look upon the breaking up of the Noble Duke's Ada ministration as a great evil to the country ; he also, too, deeply Mt that the moral effect of such a measure as that proposed would be a great evil ; but the greatest of all evils, in his opinion, and in the opinion of the vast majority of the country, was, the yielding up of that glorious Conctitotion for which our ancestors had so often and so nobly bled. Those petitions prayed • that the - glorious basis upon which the British Consti tution rested might continue unshaken, and that the circumstances of the glorious Revolution which con firmed and established that Constitutioe_ might still • continue to preserve in safety the State. The breaking up of the Noble Duke's Administration would be, in - deed, a great evil; but he could never consent to so peat a sacrifice as the breaking up of the glorious Constitution under which they had enjoyed the greatest privileges that Could be possessed by a people for so loug 'a -time. And now that he saw tht Constitution to be in danger, now he felt it his bounden duty to exert all his powers to uphold and support • the totter ing fabric—(Hear, hear). When the vessel had struck upoea rock-:-a sunken rock—(Heir, hear)—were the sailors to think. then, only of securing the masts and rigging? - Would they not be most likely to turn their if ghts to the most effectual means to secure the entire ship? Whatever might be the result of the storm, the mast would float upon the surface; but, unless every exertion were made for recovery, the bark must sink into tie deep. He alsrihende 1 that a false ground of tear had influenced the Noble Duke and the other Members of the Administration in adopting the course they pursued. He could not help looking at this as a sulking instance of political intimidation. It was like a man meeting a person in the sow, and asking him to give him, something, threatening, in case he did not comply, to knock him down. This appeared to him ..,(Lard Falmouth) perfectly analogous to what had taken place among his Majesty's Ministers. The Noble Earl apologised for taking up their Lordships attention. He felt it his duty to be unwavering in the sentiments he lead early imbibed ; and therefore he should, notwith standing the respect he entertained for the Noble Duke and t' e . I.hike's Administration, continue his opposition to the measure proposed—(Hear, hear). The Petitions, which were from Truro. and another place in Cornwall, were then read, and ordered tulle on the table. Earl GREY felt himself called upon to reply to one Or two &nervations that had fallen horn the Noble Earl, particularly t s those which alluded to him. The Noble Earl seemed to think he (Earl Grey) had said that the return of Mr. Pendarves went to prove that the great majority of the inhabitants of Cornwall were favourable to the Catholic Claims'. Now, w hat he did say the other night was, that the people of Cornwall were not so adverse to the Catholic Ciaims as a Noble Lrd had stated. He had further said that Mr. Pen. darves was well known to be favourable to Parliamen tary lief rm, and had been long an advocate of that no.assoe; hut he did nit say he was suppoitad solely by thtoe who were the ft tends to Catholic Emancipation. He. how eve', did contend that lie was chosen by a great majority, not% it,stioding the exertions of the opposite party, and tha• the great majority of his supporters were persons of the most liberal political opinions. Mr. Pendarves strength on that roc Asian was so great, that the other candidate would not date to go to the poll, and 4r. Pendarves CAMeoff with a triumphant victory. He (Earl G.) thereto, e, most contend, that he had good pound for statiog what he did. Now, with regard to the difference in the relative numbers in the Houses of Lords and Commons for the last twenty years. to which the Noble Earl alluded, all he (Earl Grey) said was, that the House of Commons changed their opinion on the question, as the people of Eng land seemed favourable to the suhi.ct. He would recommend the N .ble Earl to get the particulars of tho.e decisions. He would find that in the year 1827., when the question was thrown out of the House of Commons by .a majority of twenty-six, 308 Members did not vote at all. The next year the question was carried in that House by a majority, when the Mesh bets who voted amounted to 600; and this was a strong proof that the majority of the Members were always favourable t i the scheme. He, however, would con tend that the House of Commons, even constituted as it was, was not always a true criterion to judge of the sentiments if the people at large; and, therefore, what e er might have been the decision of the House of Coon ons at any time upon the question, the opinion that be (Earl Grey) had stated on a previous occasion remained unshaken. The Noble Earl said, that in 1812 the majority in the House of Peers against the measure was one. whereas that of last year amounted to forty five; but it was fully known to their Lordships, that eine the period alluded to fifty Peers bad been created, and that the majority of those Peers were known to be decidedly adverse to the Csohnlic Q.sestion. With re gard to the remaining ob,eivations that had fallen fr. in the N , ble Lord, he had only this much to say, that the Noble Lard and he (Earl Grey) wereagieed as to the neces.ity of supporting the Constitution of she country ; yet be certainly did not think that the admis. won of Winton Catholics into p litical power would be any infringement • f it. They were agreed as to tie end, hut were at variance as to the means nec• ssary to arrive at that end. He seemed to think that, in order to support the Croistitution. it was tweets .1' to refuse the Roman Catholic Claims; whereas he (Earl Grey) thought that the only means was to give the people of Ireland those Claims which were founded upon justice and tight—(Hear. hear). As to the Cornials metaphor that the Noble Earl introduced—(A 1 ugh), he did net agree with the Noble Ertl in his apish, anion. Who would think of caring about the masts when the bull was in danger? Or how 'could the Noble Esti compare the scanty crew to the vast bulk of a nation ti at had been long groaning under the weight of op. pression? He would rather reverse the metaphor, and say. that when the hull of the vessel was in danger. as it was by ti e reclusion of the Roman Catholics, those laws that excluded them were to be considered as the rigging that most be cut away in order to save the yes sel—(Hear, hers). But he would ask the Noble Eirl, was there any danger in keeping the crew in a divided state ?—(kfrar, heat ). Would there not be less danger la s t all were to join theme. Ives together in seeking the • resteral safety ? He only wished the question to be dispassionately considered. Did the Noble Earl believe that the vessel would be surely saved by throwing out the Bit ? He would ask the Noble Eart whether, in case the present Adininistration was broken up, theme were weans ro forming another ? arid if sn, where were those weans to be found? Het believed there were none. Ile • '' %lull refer him to the consequences of driving to de .pair seven millions of people, after their hopes had been now relied to better prosppts. Let him look to the con equences of such • came. The shipwreck m ght Cher, indeed. become too general—(Cbeers). The EArl of FALMOUTH said. that he would have Answered the observations made by the Noble Lord on Friday had not the H use broken up helots he could find an opportunity. He had been actuated by no other motive in making the remark he had done than the fear that the constitution was in danger, and feeling that. as a Peer of the Realm. he was called upon to state his sentiments free and unshackled upon a subject that deeply involved the prosperity of the State—(Hear). Earl GREY—If the Noble Earl viewed the situation in which the country was placed in its true light, and the increased diggers resulting from the withholding any longer from the people their common rights and privileges, he would see that there was good ground for fear. He saw no such objection to the used the term. The first principle of our nature was that of self-preser• vation, and this principle was put intooperation by fear. The same rule should ever guide the Ministers of the State, first to see the danger, and then wish to avoid it. He acknowledged that he did fear the consequences of keeping a nation any longer in suspense; and it was from that principle that he gave his heartfelt support to the measure recommended by his Majesty's Ministers. The Duke of WELLINGTON said, that after what had pasted on the last evening, he should not have felt himself called upon to say more on this subject, nor should lie have troubled their Lordships a second time in reference to it, had it not been for the manner is which the Noble Lord (Falmouth) had put the charge of intimidation against his Majesty's Ministers. The Noble Lord had said that the manner in which they had conducted themselves in reference to this question was just as if they had said to the Catholics “ If you give us leave to knock . you down, we shall ;afterwards give you up all that you demand." Now he (the Duke of Wellington) begged to assure the Noble Lord, that as to a bargain, Gr commutation, or agreement with any persons, his Majesty's Ministers had made none. They came forward to that House, as he had said yes terday, uninfluenced by any body ; the measures which they proposed they proposed upon their own responsi bility, and from their sense of what they thought was due to the country, and to the happiness, the peace, and tranquillity of the empire at large—( Hear). The Noble Lord had, upon this and former nights, discussed the majorities which had appeared upon the Catholic question in the lionise of Commons, and in this House. at different periods during the last 20 years. Without entering into the calculations of the Noble Lord, he (the Duke of Wellington) must say that he thought the No. We Lord had arrived at a very erroneous conclusion. The Noble Lord should have borne in mind the great majorities by which this question had been frequently carried in the other House, and he should, in parties. far, have considered the very large majority which ap. peared in the Commons in favour of the consideration of this question in the year 1812. The Noble Lord should have considered that op to last year, and by their last votes. the Home of Commons was opposed to this House on this question—the majority of the House of Commons being of one way of thinking, and the House of Lords being of another way of thinking. With such a state of things before him, he (the Duke of Welling. ton) was to come forward at the commencement of the present Sessional Pao !lament, to communicate with their Lordships and the other House of Parliament, and to ask their advice upon the state of Ireland. Now he begged t.i know, if, by acting up to this course in the Government and in Parliament, there should exist one opinion in the Commons, and another opinion in the Lords, the Go- vernment having no opinion at all—(a laugh)—he would ask whether that was not a state of things which should attract the serious consideration of the G ivernment, with a view to the adjuttment of th;s ques tion? This he would say, that he c , .uld not take into consideration in the Cabinet any question whatever which was not iilluenced in some way or 'other by the state of the Roman Catholics of Ireland, and the dif ference which existed on the subject between this House and the other House of Parliament. That was one of the evils which he (the Duke of Wellington) and hi. colleagues took into their consideration when they offered that advice to his Majesty which. he had been pleased to accept—(Hear). If the Noble Lard would but for a moment look to the difficulties which were attendant upon this question, not only in that pare of the empire which it mote immediately concerned,' but in this also—if he knew the difficulties which arose from it in Parliament and in Council—he would see many reasons for bringing it to a final decision, without having had recourse to the unworthy motives which he had attributed to his Majesty's .Mi nista,. lie (the Duke of Wellington) would say this, that it required more firmness of character is his Right Honourable Friend in the other House to come forward as a Minister of this country, abandon opinions which he had hitherto maintained, and to urge upon Parliament the adoption of this measure, to which he had been always opposed—to abandon, as it were, his political existence in order to urge on Parliament this measure—it required, he repe a t e d, more firmness of character on the part of his Right Honourable Friend to do that, than to adhere to his old and long-cherished opinions on ihe subject—(Hear, hear). It requited, he would again say, mote firmness of character in his Right Honourable Friend to cast away all his fr rmer notions, and to follow new opinions, when lie conceived that their adoption •as absolutely necessary for the Constitution and the security of the State, than to have continued in thtt course for deviating from which he lad subjected himsi If to the attacks of the Noble Lord. He (the Duke of Wellington) begged pardon for haying a second time trespassed on the patience of their Lord. ships on this subject; but a charge so unworthy and so urjust against any set of men as that which hid been preferred by the Nuhle Lord against his Majesty's Ministers, he could not suffer to pass unnoticed or with out contradiction—(Heal). DANGEROUS ASSOCIATION SUPPRESSION BIM Sir A. Gamer, and others (torn the Commons, brought•up the Dangerous Association Suppression Bill. Read a first time on the motion of the Duke of WELLING TON, who gave notice that be would on Thursday nem move the second trading of the Bill. The Duke of NEWCASTLE, adverting to the mea sures understood to be in the contemplation of his Ma testy's Government, said, that the general feeling or the nation was, that nothing less than a total revolution was projected. He could never be brought to consider that a departure from the principles of Protestantism was other • ise Vials a total revolution. The Bill which had just been br , ught up and laid upon the table was one of the very highest importance in wha ever point of view it migl t be considered—whether as an infringe. ment upon the liberty of the subject, or as preparatory to a p trticrilar ulterior design, which was attributed to the Noble D Now he wished to pot a question or two to that Noble Doke, naus:ly, whether the Bill in question was introduced fur the purpose of acquiring a more arbitrary poser than that at present enjoyed by the Emotive? On this he would take leave to observe, that if such was the object, the people of England were not quite prepared for submission to that degree of ar bitrary ancrmilintry stile at the present mom, ot so mei. venally apprehended, and considered even already t esiit in the Cabinet. It did really seem as if the Nob e Duld• was perfectly despotic. He had only to say— Hoe volo sic tubed sit pro radiate volumes, and all was executed according to his commands. It seemed, so far as could be judged from this measure, that the object was to sacrifice the Protestant to the- Catholic interest. His Grace concluded by inquiring whether the Noble Duke had any object in view be yond that which appeared upon the face r f the Bill? The Duke of Watusovon did not rise. The Marquis of CA M DEN inquired if the question then before the House arose out of the Cornwall Petition? and was answered in the negative. The Doke of NEWCASTLE then presented a Petition from • parish in the county of Derby against further contusions to the Roman Catholics; upon which The Marquis of CAMDEN said, that he trusted that the Noble Duke at 'behead of the Government would not answer every question that any Noble Lord might think proper to put to him. The Noble Duke had shown himself ready enough to take 'IP responsibility of the measure upon himself, and it ought therefore to be left to him to suppress or to state, as appeared most fit, the circumstances that had led him to adopt the measure that he had. He was aware that it was both inconvenient and irregular to take up the time of their Lordships by speeches oft petitions; but as he had so long taken the same view of the question as his Ma jesty's Ministers were now supporting, he dusted that he might be allowed to say a very few words. The whole of the members of the Govetnment appeased now to consider this suhject so important, that many of them had given op those opinions n /itch they bad for a long time cherished ; and above all, lie was anxious to do justice to the high character, the peat fit mness. and the laudable spirit which had been evi.iced by a Right Hon. Gentleman in another place (Mr. Peel); the whole country was obliged to him for coming forward as he had ma..fully done. He certainly congratulated himself on the manner in which the question had been brought fortrard, and be lot ked forward a tth a confi dence which had never been exceeded, in his mind, to the filial settlement of this important question. The Earl of FALMOUTH thought that the Noble Marquis could nit have alluded to him in what he said about asking questions. He (Lord Falmouth) had sat in that House for twenty years, and had never asked a question on any subject till the other night. Surely the Noble Marquis could not mean to say that, feeling as he (Lord Falmouth) did on this vital question, he had no right to ask for information as to particulars? Ile had the highest respect for the N‘ible Marquis for his acts of pan iotism, which ought to be for ever indelible in the minds of the nation ; but still he could not cede to him the proposition, that so important a question was to pass by unnoticed. The Earl of DARNLEY said that Noble Lords had spoken as if his Majesty's Government was intimidated. Surely the tendency of their proceedings was that of intimidation. What else could be the tendency of such frequent appeals to the people, made, as he must ob serve, most inconsistently, by those Noble Lords? He was old enough to remember the year 1780, and he could attribue to nothing but the enlightenment of the present times that such scenes were not now repeated-- that London was not on fire in taenty different places. He fully concurred with the Noble Marquis in saying, that speeches were made upon Petitions both ton fte quently and at too great length; but he loped that the present object of the speeches to which he alluded would be defeated. The Earl of FALMOUTH, in perfect good humour, might be allowed to observe, that the Noble Earl who bad just sat down otteht to be the lut to And fault with long speeches—(A laugh). The Duke of NEWCASFLIC presented a Petition against the Catholic Claims frost an individual named Joseph Morris • book seller sod printer, in Shrewshury.—On the mutest that it be printed, Lord HOLLAND observed, that it was not usual is print Peti tions from individuals. It was, moreover. unnecessary in the pre sent case; for the Petitioner, being himself a printer, could give his sentiments sufficient publicity—(A laugh). The Duke of NEWCASTLE then presented a large body at Petitions from various pans of Nottingham, against further con cessions to the Roman Catholics. The B ishop of LONDON presented a similar Petition from the Dean and Chapter of Peterborough. Earl POWIS presented a similar Petition from Brideaarth. AU ordered to lie on the table. The Earl of DARNLEYpresented Petitions from several pa rishes in Meath and the Queen's county, in favour of Catholic claims, and siiinst the Sub-letting and Vestry Acts. Atli:wised at a quarter before Saves. HOUSE OP COMMONS. Colonel POWELL presented Petitions against granting farther concessions to the Roman Catholic., from Aberystwlth,sod eleven ocher Parishes in Wales.—Ordered to lie on the table. life. BELL presented a Petition from certain Officers of the Slade against the reduction of the Militia Staff. Lord MANDEVILLE presented a Petition to the same effect from the &W el the Armagh Militia.--Ordered.to Se on the table. Sir C. COOTS presented three Petitions from parbbes in Ire land against the Sub-letting Act, the Vestry Act, and is faveur of Catholic Emancipation.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. WODEIiOUSE moved for certain Returns relative to [A ccused liaitsters —Ordered. Sir. CURTI ES presented a Petition against the Catholic Claims from a parish in the county of Sussex. Mr. CART W RIGHT presented a Petition to the same effect from the Archdeacon and Clergy et the Diocese of Pates borough, which, be observed. was more numerously and semectably signed than on former occasions.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. PERCIVAL laid on the table an Estimate of the charge of the Ordnance Department for the year 1829. Sir. SLANEY gave unties that on Tuesday next he shedi bring in a Bill founded on the Report of the Committee of Impel relative to the Poor Laws, and moved for certain r e turns m a t h e subject, which were orde red. Lord M A NDEVI LLB presented four Petitions aphid the Ca tholic Claims from Market Hill, and three other parishes in the county of Armagh.—Ordered to lie on the table. Sir E. HARVEY presented a Petition to the same effect from Saffron Walden. in the county of Ewe. The Hon. Member ob. served that many more Petitioos would be presented to the House if time were given. He had always Leen. and ever should be. opposed to concessions to the Catholics ...Ordered to lie on the table. Mr H. PARNELL pressured a Petition from a parish in the Queen's County In favour of the Catholic Claims. Mr. TUITE presented Petitions to the same effect froM Mut. Ungar, and three other parishes. Admiral EV A NS presented Pathless against the Catholic Claims, from Dunmanway and Payne, in discount, of Cork.--Ordered to lie no the table. Mr. H. EDEN presented a Petition from a Borough in Corn. wall, praying for the continuation of the Bounty on the Exporta tion of Pilchards.—Ordered to Me en the table. Sir. PENDARVES moved for Returns of the quantity of Copper imported into Great Britain daring the year ending on the Ids January, 1829; also of the quantity exported during the same year ; also of the quantity exported from the_ port of London ; a l so of the quantity exported from t h e poet o f ; also for si milar Returns relative to Lead; and for ether Returns connected with the same subject.—Ordered. Mr. H. MAXWELL presented three Petition against the Claims of the Catholics, from three parishes in the counties of Donegal, Tyrone, and Fermanagh.—Ordered to lie on the table. Lord SEFTON presented a Petition from a Congregation of Protestant Dimmers in Lancashire in favour of the .Catholic Claims.—Ordered to Ile on the table. Lord MORPETH presented two Petitions from Parishes In the county of Kilkenny against the Sob letting Act, the Vestry Act. and In lavour of the Catholic Claims.—Ordered to be laid on the table. Colonel PEEL gave notice of We Intention on Thursday to pre seat a Petition from Norwich. signed- by between 8,000 and 9,000 person, praying that no further concessions may be granted to the Kansa Catholics—(Hear, bear). blr. J KPHSON presented a Petition from Killarney and Agha. doe, in favour of the Catholic Claims.—Laid on the table. Me. Seaway PIEL laid upon the table certain commentari es . meshed at the Foreign Office made* to Ilayd, which were wa ste . to be gebtest. Ills &screwy PEEL said he had several Petitions adverse to the Roman Catholics which he had been re „ ce,red to present to the Idolise. Toe Right H on , Gentleman then presented the following petit lOUs...I MR the Asclibiehop and I :lergy of the diocese of Timin g horn the Minister and Congregation of Wrlsh C4lllll - Methodist. of Anglem y ; om the Inhabitants of a pari-h in the county of Wit's; from the Associa te Presbytery of S.irling; from the Ministers and Eiders to the Presbytery of Glasgow; Irom the Inhabitants of the-parish of Barleston, in the county of Stafford; from the Minister', Elders, and Congregation of Calvanistie :Methodists of Desibigh ; from the Magistrates. Gentry, and there of R chdale. in the county of Lancaster; from the Wooers of Cheadle. in Staffordatiiie ; f rom the Mow i•s of Staff ;ftom a cat tain parish in o.e county of St at ; and from the pails!) of Stoke Proper, in the county r f Safford. ASIVCIATIONIC SUPIMUSION BILL The House proceeded to the Order of the pay on the Anode. dons Suppression Dill.—On the manila° that the Sill be read a third time, General GASCOYNE rose to say. that he would avail himself no this opportunity to put a question t • the Right Hon. Secretary tot the Horne Depar mot. He thought, if he recollected right, that the Right Hoe. Gentleman had, in proposing this measure. stated that there were dangers threatened to the sta e, ',Lich were peculiarly known to him el from his official sou bon. and not to the public This had create I a stron g sm. pression both in and out of the Hon-e. The Right Hon. Gentleman had entered into a statement which did not appear to him (Genital Gascosse) sufficient grounds for what he haJ iofe•r.tl in his speech. It had appeared horn that statement that tumult and dissatisfaction ; rev ailed in Ireland; bet all this had been Fs: ev iously bet to the country ibrotigh the medium of the j aurnals of the day. Ile now . rose for the purpose of asking if this statement was all they were to have Uwe. rsal dissppoilitment had been cieated by it, and the impression was that there was mire to be explained. He wished to know it the Right Mit. Secretary had any information to give? The publte mind was distracted by a thousand reports in cis cola. tine, some so really ridiculous—(Near s and a laugh)—. that it was impossible to refer to them seriously. It was repotted that the army could not be depended upon—a story which lie would call a libel upon the discipline of tl:e army—(Hear. hear)—but which he had heard from at least twenty Members of that Muse—. He had been told that foreign PJWi•IS had inierleted foe the Irish Catlirl cs, and that the America's' h .41 it?. plied them secretly with arms and ammunition— (Laughter). He m ritioned those things to show the (oily and absnrdity of the rumours that were cutient, and he put this crestion merely that th, y might be dissipated. • There was another point to which hr would take the opportunity of alluding. There was an im pression among individuals, both in and out of that Hoy e, that the Right Hon. Secretary would not have assented to the measure unless he had known some. thing which the ;abbe were not at present permitted to know. He (General Gascoyee) had heard all the Right Hon. Gentleman's speeches, and he was rather incl•ntd to believe that he had explained all he bad to explain. He wished, however, to be satisfied whether no further danger existed than that which had been stated, and whether that alone had led to the proposing of the two measures that immediately followed each other in the Speech frUm the Throne? He would certainly say that the statement which had accompanied the preliminary moisure was not sufficient for the support of the o her; and it there was Scatty 'nothing more to state, it sould be satisfactory for persons both in and out of that House to have an assurance-on the subject. • Mr. Secretary PEEL said that the ground on which his gallant Friend had put his question t-s him was, that be had heard not less than a thousand ridiculous rot ports, and he proceeded to ask a contradiction to some of these reports to give satisfaction to himself and others. He would protest against the principle of the question, for if he were liable to be called upon to contradict some extravagant and ridiculous report., he might be called upon to contradict all. He admitted that he had said on a • former evening that an H on . F r i en d had not access to the mass of inlorinatirm posited in upon him officially; and on another evening he had given a specimen of the corrrespondence routed into the Home Office. When his gallant Ft iend talked of the interference of Foreign Powers, be could say that nothing had' fallen from him to sanction such reports; but lie thought that he did state it as the moist why. if the settlement of the question was um. avoidable, it should be attempted no«, as there never was a period when England could undertake it with greater honour and safety; for dating the last lour 'hundred years she hid never stood on more amicable relations with foreign Powers. He would again say that, in that respect, there was nothing to prevent' the House from taking the question into Consideratiou with ilso greatest honour and sa'ety ; but the danger err which he had referred existed in the condition of so. siety in Ireland, and the evils that threatened the sects. illy of the Protest at intete-ts in that country. His Gall.nt Friend had said that he was disappoin:ed that Ireland wa's not shciwn to be in as bad a state as he h id Moon to apprehend. He (Mr. Peel) had attempted tit Show its distracted and dangerous state, and, although he had not described it as being such that physical' force could not immediately suppress any turbulence that might result from it, yet he had shown that it would be mote advantageous to aim at an adjustment ( than to go on upon the system of the last sixteen years. He did n• t know what other answer could be required. As to the danger of the House legislating ender the in... thence of fe..r, there was none; but he ,confessed the other fear, arising from the continuance. of party alai. Bosky. the evil of a divided Parliament, and. %Wreak the impossibility of carrying on the administration of criminal justice it; Ireland, it it was meant that Trial by Jury should continue to form a patt of the legal insti tutions of that country. These were reasons for the apprehension of danger, such as the Legislature, anxious fat the peace and prosperity of the empire, might well take into consideration without being apprehensive of say other. Mr. G. MOORE said that it appeared, from 'bat fed been Mated by the Right Hon. Gentleman, that there was as &eget to be Maticipated from our foreign relations, nor from VW species of lethaidedan nweeted to in Ireland, and that now tie 1 1 11 1.8.4 11.41111 gsr egh lrws t s isa V a b : ll. lle . i . ig was t h imaa t be h r ehe . com i Fz i f fe tr iel some giee so ib y r ik e: s e t :nrr bie mesteV eres imen si . of late. paid attend= to the social aspect of Ireland. and be had se hesitation in doderlog it to be his opiate@ that. so far from it Whig bettered by tie Intended measure of concession. it ran the gamest risk of being isvelmil in will greater dangers aid mere Marmite mile. He wadi add— " Non anew hic serum nt as d bit Right Hon. Friend might rest assured that gibs table et da House would shortly be crowded with testimosials. from a PM% by Protestants having the greatest interest in the question, and who were the best judges of those evils, and of the means by which May might be removed. The Marquis of CHANDOS rose to ask the Right Live. Secretary it there was say frovislas is the mussy NM Is LON I WEDNESDAY, Fr PLUCK OF STUCK* A • p as t Stock 2101 3 per Cettt.l4.l. 074 1 • 3 per Ct Cont.ll6l i I 4 44 per Cent. 101111. 964 34 per Cent. Re.l. 964 4 per Ct. Newr.lol4 4 4 4 per Ceti!. 14t6.1054 Lang Asset. 19 11.16 20 191 ludla Stuck 339 30 EUNDIt, Ilds. a pa. I Ae.t.044 Bursitis Ayr, a atd..6p C. Do Acct. 35 otombl..n i 5.... I pact. Do.Bseds.lln4. 1111 De Acct. Ssit aleiLlicht,iStS i llp Ct. 94} I 811,1TIJH AND FOILZION SI swts. Al 4) 14-steam 100 brasilagn • $OO St Ditto National ss 00.1144 simicas . The Dangerous As — toe - MI passed is the House of Comm time in the House ,f Lords, second time on Thunder. ' lope that it will not be many receive the Royal consent. In both Houma some inter place on the grand question c respecting the Cacholob. and Mr. Put. respectively di plated proceedings had NI i est of the mosey Rent y He is • from the *retest Pad Mr. Secretory ' to the amount of the trwi The ritam ai rt u zpsaty p ist r:G easmiwyan ted et me. the Mr. D. W. HA Mien from an Houma mention of the Hotta. was prepared to say t • k was, and that all ag although they might d Member said that, be Protestant Inhabitants a acquainted with the • be tranquillised- Be ( Member would be preps be more folly brought • elect that object which • Sir GEORGE W Pity Of expressing a hope the measures of his hi eights to one body of el another. He trusted the shones would not be e • of the Forty Shilling F they had in sonic deg gamed object. 'Me A ITORNEY Amendment in the ; passed. Al , . POTTER M bring in a Dill fir the Am ject of Parochial Settleme Mr. STUART W :amino to introduce a • • Laws. The Hon. hlemh of the same character as Howie in the course of the bad then entertained of the 'laws bad been strengthened Mr. LES MR ,been nude to improve the ground of having attempt • wrong grounds. Ile (Mn. attack the game laws sigh the game preserves. The to prevent the pheasants f • purpose to prevent the gro sary for that purpose—(9 - Mr. Secretary PEE the House would feel some which the Hon. Member ha meeting the pheasants from lived upon barley and wheat easy to frame a law whi articles. Mr. LESTER %aid I, growth of when sad barley sag of game. Mr. RIDLEY COL state of the Game Laws w manner. Lord JOHN RUSS commend a consolidation of be feared that even this • poaching in any considerable Leave was then given to • INSOLVENT Dear • Lord F. L. GOWER • the laws testing to the Cola Mr. HUME inquire hie appointment to dice In di with the circumstances -• • • Hume) believed that it cost • returns then In his hand it ap millions, for whicil insolvents reland,only one farthing in t • The expenses of the Court and creded, he wasinformed.rhe am puNie. He would submit to t for the Hume Department, w grown out of the barbarous • would not be better to go at • Hon. Member then read a stat twenty-four persons had been i period of 144 years. (Mew one years for the sum of 231. Lord FRANCIS LEV as the question was one of gee into the particulars until the heads of the Members of the H Leave was then given to br • CALL ON The Marquis ot• CHA seance of the notice which be b called over on Thursday the Lord intimated at the same t • introduced en the subject of have been brought in before jeers his motion to a so • Mr. HU MR gave notice that Returns relating to the expenses Ireland. Mr. HERMES moved for enga g ed In the foreign trade of t • dry eng..ged in the trade of each The CHANCELLOR of t Petition front the Wan and Ch. tram the Ministers, Elders, and Ayre, In the amity of Armagh. Right Honourable Gentleman Individual named John Scott, of praying that the Congregations • obliged to pray for the King.— The Earl of BECTI VE p the county o f Westmeath, sitalb4t also Petitions from the Roman s• in the county of Cavan, and from favour of Catholic Rmanclpaticiu. The House adjourned at Sax o' • Tfili.: EVI4..N