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trade, there was a great and gradual falling off. The amount of the falling off was is the following pro rortions Tat AURA= sumer or TMS MOATS Stem:l7oo' to • 1795.. was 42.500.000 1798* 1801 2.200:000. 1802 1807 2,100.000 1 acs . 1812 1,700,000 During the period from 1814 to 1819 the renewal of the charter took place, and some of the restrictions were removed, and the exports rose. The average of those years from 1814 to 1819 was 2.100.0001. In the year 1819 the amount was 2,800,0001. From 1820 to 1825 • the average was 4,800,0001. and in the year 1827 the amount was 5.800,0001. From these details it would be observed that during tbefirst period, whilst the re strictions were in full force, there was a constant fall ing off in the amount of the exports:, but in the latter period, since the trade had been in some degree open, there was a gradual inctease. That the predictions hazarded when the question was under discussion were not justified was to be ascribed entirely to the private trade, and in no respect to the trade carried on by the East India Company. He would now refer to one or two of the articles in which the greatest increase had ' taken place. The most important increase, perhaps, Was in the article of manufactured cottons. The total amount of cottons exported to India in 1814 was 818.000 yards, and in the year 1828 no less than 43,500.000 yards of cotton were exported to lodic The value of the cotton exported in 1814 was 90,0001. whilit the value in 1828 was 1,900,0001. although. as every one was aware, there had been a considerable fall •In the value of the manufactured article. The various descriptions of cotton had been exported in the follow ' Ins proportions—ln 1814 the quantity of white cot tons exported was 213,000 yards. In 1828 the quan ,•.... tity nt white cottons was 2,300,000 yards. In 1814 the quantity of coloured cottons was 608.000 yards. —ln 1828 the quantity of coloured cottons was 12,000,000 yards. As to cotton twist, the increase of exportation was still more astonishing. In 1814. which was the first year of the opening of the trade, only Blbs. of corm twist was exported; and in 1828, 4,587,0001b5.' of cotton twist was exported. He mentioned these facts meetly to show that there was sufficient ground for in y. and he would not tire the House by continuing those details. When the trade had increased to so large an extent, it would well become the House to inquire whether it could not be extended still more. The great and Sudden grow thof the trade set calculation at de ' fiance. He believed that nothing, in fact, was yet knoWn of this trade ; and his own opinion was, that no assignable limits could be put to its extension. provided only that the means wire provided for the profitable investment of capital in India, so that the ability to. g ye a return might be in proportion to the inctease of ennvumption. • There was no prejudice existing in the minds of the people to prevent them from purchaiing the manufaCtures of this country, and there was no bisr or impediment to an immense extension of the . export • trade.' efeept the difficulty which the inhabitants et • India might find in giving a return for the io'nutiodi lies they consumed in the way of itnpUrts suitable to our wants. 1t was only tight to staie s thst the increase in the impotts had not borne i fair tareipiartitin to the • increase of the exports. The official average vitae of the imports from India, from 1790 to 1795, was 3 800,030/ and the official value of the imports in 1827 ;% as 3.313 0001. The grog th of the import trade, there fore, was trot so sudden or so.great as the growth of the export trade. In 1814 the official value of the unpins was 7.890 0001. and, as he had already stated. in 1827 it was 8,343.0001. The groWth of the export trade had been fourfold ; but the import trade had not grown op 'in the same proportion, the increase since the renewal of the charter being only about 1,000,0001. official value. It was also to be considered that the improve ment of the articles produced in India did not bear any pe , portion to the increased production. The fact was, that no improvement had taken place in any of the arti cles produced, with the exception of indigo. Not many years ago the indigo imported from India 4ras so bad that it was scarcely saleable. It was no:. the very best ' Of that kind of drug, being of a better quality than . that produCed in South America. Forty years ago this country was supplied with this valuable drug from foreign countries, but by means of our Indian posses sions, we were now enabled to supply all Europe.— ' Indigo, however, as be before observed, was the sole article produced in India, in tbe manufacture of which an improvement had taken place.Tbis was entirely owing to the permission to expend capital in the cultivation. and he had no doubt that if permission was granted to • eapetid capital on other articles of Indian produce, and that it the like care was taken in the cultivation, the 'result would be precisely similar. The climate, the soil, and the low rate of wages, were circumstances favourable to every article of tropical and colonial pro duce. All that was required win the necessary ex penditure of capital, and the consequent increase of care and' superinteldence. The next article of produce to which he should refer was that of Cotton. On which be'' bad already made some observationi. The quality of the cotton *spotted from India had not improved to any considerable degree, though there was a consider able "increase in Abe quantity ihinerted. There could be no difficulty. hoirever,' in devising Means fOr im proving the quality 'of this article of prOace, if capital was to be applied for that purpose. In the year 1814 the quantity of tier, cotton imported lam India was 3,000,0001n5. and in 1828 the quantity imported had increased to 32 000,000 lbs. To revert main to the quality of this article, be might state that the fact was, that the hest East India cotton Was Inferior to the Worst American cotton, and that in some instairces the diffe— rence in price between East India ditto's and Artier ican cotton was as great as 100 per cent. The fact, was,' that nn care was taken in the coltieation Of the article, or in cleansing it from dirt, which greatly ileduced In value. There was no doubt, holvever,tliat the quality. of the article would be greatly and tatinetliatelt proved if British capital and mactinery,iiiireernifoved in the production—Wear). He had already staled that a very considerable prnportiOnOf the riwislat4iVeM ployed in the cotton manufacture of Phis coint4 was drawn from A/eeriest. The quantity of raw Cot tort importedinto this country Was 197,000,0001b5. 151.000 000 lbs. '*as impinied trims America. Conj. deting . the pri,int state Of otir toatireictal relations . .titl% the United estates, to 'whieb 'he had already ad . netted; q , STAA mod deniable for the future prospects of this country That there'should be no iinpediMent to the '_production crtidn' la our Orin COlohies. The next r i intiCic,to llich lie foitod call are of the House thatersfingar, in theinipoit 'of Atilt there fmcListin lsme irtc::r. In 1814 the quint* of 'sugar' imported rig 12,010 cwt.. in 181,S / tht talporta • lion had 'twee( tp 516.040 exits. It'*as an extra- Ordinary f ! act,:hßweeet,, that of this`qiiitsiity' as large a proportion as 360:000 cats. was Omdtaced in the imill settlement of the Mamitits,Avhich . iits - iinlY:to 'be ac counted 'fol by the fact that there was lit* the ante inspedtiiients to the employment of capital and skill towards the production of sugar in the Manikins as in the other parts of India. The effect of the absence or impediments in the Malachias was proved by the fact, that within the last eight years two hundred *O. gar mills were Sent from this country to the Mauritius, and not one to India—(Hear, hear, hear). Nothing was more rude than the machinery now used in the iTeenufacture of eager in British India. The produce of sugar was not deficient, but there was a great defi , Matey in the manufacture. In the article of silk the produce of India was as much inferior as the produce of other articles in that country. The import of this article had not greatly increased. In 1814 the quantity imported was 1,100,000 lbs. weight, and in 1828 the quantity imported was 1,447,000 lbs. The fait Was, that the raw silk produced in India was inferior to that produced in any part of Europe. The price given for the silk imported from India was 18s. ptr lb. *MIA the silk of Italy sold in this country for 28s. per lb. He had no doubt, however, that if a settlement was allowed to British subject, in India, and that British capital and skill were directed to the production of the article. silk to the largest extent, and of the very best quality. might be produced and drawn froth that country. If English subjects were prevented from settling in India, his con viction was, that the import trade could not be extended much further, but wield remain pretty much as it Was at present. By adoptin.g the opposite and the more generous policy, however, • and permitting the subjects of this country to settle in ladle, he was convinced that the trade with that country might be carried to any ex tent that might be desirable. There was an extent of country of 128,000.000 Square miles, and 134,000,000 of inhabitants, including the subjects of those Pi inces who Were tributary to the British Government; and therefore he was Warranted in saying. that the produc tive powers of such a country might be increased to an almost unlimited extent. Hitherto, however, it had been the policy of the Government to prevent British subjects from holding or possessing laud in India, and a similar policy, he ventured to say, had never been pursued by any country but this. There was no policy more conducive to the absence of civilization and know ledge than such a prohibition, Which Was directly op posed to the system adopted by all other countries, ancient and modern, having large and distant colonial possessions. He was satisfied that ancient Rome woeld never bale extended her empire or held it so long had we not encouraged civilization and settlement in her conquered provinces. The Russian empire, that vast colossus. could not have kept the members of that great empire together H the Government did- not pursue a different course from that which England pursued with respect to its Indian possessions. Looking to the origin of the restrictions to the settlement of Eng lishmen in the East Indies, it was found to have ori ginated in monopoly. It was now contended, however, that the continuance of those regulations was necessary to the happiness of the natives, than which no argument' could be more stupid and unfounded. The only mode of amelimatingthe condition of the native inhabitants *Wits by reinoving the present restrictions and prohibi tions. The settlement of British Subject's Would it once improve the condition of the present inhabitants, who would acquire knowledge, good habits, and cultivation, ,sad ciirilizitiOn would speedily give place to the state 'of baibarliien ihich at present existed. The only oh. ject hitherto appeared to be, to preserve the monopoly. Nobody dreamt of anything else but to keep up that anomalous system of rub. which made the Government partly a trader and partly a Sovereign. The very name given to those Persons who krenttolndia Without a license born the Government was sufficiently expressive of the light in which they were held—they were called inter lopers. With a view of preserving and extenditig cows, .merce. and benefitting the peopled India, the Governs meat of this country was bound to do away With thoM most unjust restrictions. Unless this was done, it would, be impossible to govern the vast Empire of India in a cheap and effectual way. The total ignorance in Which they now were as to the habits and feelings of the peo ple whom they were called upon to rule over,*would . 'prevent them from legislatiug advantageously whilst the present system of prohibition was kept up. ('m" , Hon. Gentleman here tend an extract from the evidence, of Sir Henry Strachey befOre a Committee of the House In 1810, in labia he stated that the ignorance of the Legislature as to the habits and castes of the people of India must prevent them from knoiving upon what principle they should legislate.) This 'was the opinion of a most distinguished individual who had been a Judge in India, and was well acquainted with thehabitn and conditions of the people of that empire. This ex treme ignorance of the feelings, habits, and dispositions . of the people mint necessarily be productiie of many evils, and the only course which they could . pursue to' obviate it was, in his opinion, to establish settlements of Europeans in that country. He was aware that many Hon. Gentlemen thought that this forming of a sat clement would 'tend to is cake!' the conmetion between this country and India; but such would be the mutual course which must ensue that it was his full conviction' that it would greatly increase the strength of that cone nectioo. At pr'e'sent they held India by a -inglb thread—ihey Wold then hold it by a cable. He knew that either of those ties might, by a sudden effort, fie snapped asunder, or in the course of time might wear away; but it the object of the 'British legislature was ready to brake theconnection permanerrt,there was only one cour's'e for them to adopt, and that *as 'at once 10 renase all the absurd restrictions which at Pieifent isted. He was told that this system would be injutionsto the people of India. In reply to that assertion he would beg to reser t to me tact. The Hoene knew that at the time of the emancipation Of Sonde Monica ths re was a , very large 'shale of British capital embarked in trade in that country, the greater part of which Was unfortu nately lost. It they had at that time been alloWed to trade with India, as with South A mei ica—unrestricted—. ittat cripitarwoold, instead of having been thrown away in the latter country, been prodetetil4 of lintel ti Niels bete to ifi r e Oiiiieis by commerce 'frith the fOinker.— TWenty millions of capital wohld hive been Produetilre" of incalculable good in India, and, instead of ravening the improvement of the people. 'would necessarily pros 'eite it. Wdeld - any one say that the improvement of Ireland by allowing En'glfsh capital to 'Row into that country? The effects in India 'would : bellie Caine. This doctrine was, be contended, a down. sight absuf dity. and hird itsorigin in monopoly of trade on the part at the East India Company. if the object of the Legislature now was to cbncinue that monopoly, no One would be more ready to admit than he that it 'would be wise it would be prudent—it would be hecessat y, to 'pursue the sane course which bad been adopted N bit n iiionophly was the principle on which they acted ;liut they had decided in the year 1815. when they granted the, last chimer., that monopoly was pot the principle on *Meth 'they were to act, and he thought - they adretound totting this real principle into effect. 'A removal of the restrictions which *ere complained of•being the only Source Whence -the improvement of theVetipe could 'spring, he thought it was the duty of the House to take roper imp for that purpose. lie' *bold hot dwell any lbhger 'upon 'that part of the subject but metely to say that, if the Committee which he should have the honour of rivelni for should be adoptedi it would be their duty to make ail the 'lmi:ray inquiries into it, ai it was a subject which fibild occupy much tiSle ; and it t here arse pans of it Oh Which lull information build eat be aCquired with liet.itocuring it from ledia, he thought it Mostdeor able they should enter upon the inquiry immed iately. It was for this reason that lie was anxious the Committee should be appointed now,for though they could not carry on their inquiries to any great extent this Session, they might make a commencement, and Isy the ground work . for entering oa the matter *ith spirit next Session. These weredie thought the House would admitmounds for urg ing that tt a Committee should be appointed at present. He came now to the other part of the question—the trade between this country and China. The House was aware that that trade was at present a complete monopoly in the hands Of the East India Company. No British yes ids were allowed to trade there. In the earlier periods lathe connexion of this country with the East, such was not the Case ; they had not then been excluded at they Were at present. In the seienteenth century there were four polls in China open to them, as well as the islands of Japan, and it was only on the introduction of Com panies, particularly those of thiseountry, that jealousies arose which first restricted and giadually excluded them from commerce with these countries. At present there was only one port open to them, that of Canton. From the kingdom of Siam, Cochin China, and the entire empire of Japan; they were totally excluded, the only port whiih remained open to them being a miserable Ditch c 'mute, froth which no benefit could be derived. *I he details of those matters bad been developed in an admirable man ner by a Gentleman to whom both India and this coun try were much indebted—he meant Mr. Cra mord.— There was, he contended, not the shadow or ground for continuing the present system. He would state the amount of the exports of this country to China for the several years since the comitienceinent of the present century, by *WO it would appear how much trade had deteriorated in consequence of that system. From the year 1891 to 1810 the atntint of ex ports annually Was 1.152,000/. Irom the yeir 1811 to 1823 it was 750,0001. froin 1823 to 1827 it was 68'2,0001. in the year 1827, 493,0001. and the year 1828 863,0001. It appeared, therefore, taking the aierage of the last two jean, that there had been a falling off. iinte the first period to which he had alluded, of ninety per cent. He knew that, as the value of the goods exported had fallen, there must, of course, be a reduction ; but, even allowing for that reduction, they Would find their had been a falling off of More than fo:ty per cent. When they reflected that the whole trade to which be had referred was in their bands, and *hen this great tailing off, compared with the general trade to IndiS, was con sidered, he mist necessarily come to the conclusion' hat there was not the facility of carrying on that trade which ought to exist. He knew that, according to the charter which had been granted in 1813, unless some arrange agent Were made with the Company, OA they could not hope fur any alteration at present. But he thought that in itself a strong reason for paying early atten tion to the subject, and for coOsideiing whether, when the present charter slicteld have expired, there were eny grounds for continuing so odious a systems. He was aware that it was objected that the trade with China mold not be carried on by private metchants in come quence of the prejudices of the people; buy he had the authority of a Gentlemen of deep research and via information on those matters (Mr. Milburn) for stating that there was no country w ith which - trade could be carried on so easily. The habits of the people were in favour of it, for they were much addicted to trade, their number amounting to one hundred and fifty Md• lions, and the climate of their Country *ell afforded facility for trade. They Would likeaise find it their interest as well as inclination to take almost any pro duce of this country, and would *certainly be less un willing to carry on trade With private merchants,whose interest it would be to secure their trade with a great Company whom they looked upon as the conquerors of a neighbouring country. But even supposing there were difficUlties in the way of trading with China— supposing they were obliged to enter the port of Canton in armed vessels, and that they should find the people anxious to carry on trade with the Com pany in preference to private 'individuals—stall those objections did not Weigh one feather against his arguments ; for they had the experience of all countries to show that trade is generally carried on through the medium of an emporium, and this emporium at present 'existed in the island of Sincapore. With respect to tea,. in particular, it did not grow in the province of Cauts t. but was brought from a considerable distance. The black teas were obliged to be conveyed 360 miles across the, country, and the green teas to be transported 700 on 800 =lei by sea to Canton; and those teas being pro. duced in maritime provinces, might be brought as cheap' from those provinces to the islaid of Sincapore as to the. Dort of Canton. With regard ro Sincapore, he wished to e'en the attention of the House to the rapid iinprovement which had taken place in that island and the great in crease of population. Since the introduction of trade in the year 1819 it had been almot a desert. In the year 1824 the population amounted to 10.000. and in 1827 to 13,000, and, including the military, to 16 000. The exports and imports of Sincapore at • peseta amounted to two millions. He wished to :elm to a %tate . ** Which had been made with tepid to this I island SY ihe same 'intelligent individual to whom he' I bad before referred—(The Hon. Gent. here teed an ex tract front a pamphlet in corroboration of his mention of the viialniproventent which had taken place in theishad Siricapoi4).He repeated th at even if they were prevented from carlyiug on trade with the ports of Chins, they had only to direct the produce of the count y to another charnel. The quantity of the produce of that country Whicb was iiipoited intoE ! igland tvas'very considerable. The imports of tea alone during last year amounted to 81,000.000 lbs. and he bad no doubt that it would be 'dtrOble.Or perhaps treble that if -prfriteindividuals were alicityed to trade. It wire‘ith no little itirprise he had heard an Hon. Member state the other night that the price of tea was Weer at present, and the quality supe rior Ram if private merchants were permitted to trade. Such 'an . as;sertion he had better before heard made, and he was satisfied that if an iniestigition took place, and full information be acquired on the subject, the Rouse Would hear no More suchlesertions. Oa the subject of the price of tea . he had:only to say, that in the year 1814 there were twenty six millions of pounds imported, and in the year 1828 thirty millions. There were 'now 'stored by the Company thirty one millions' of pounds e the price of Which 'wa5 1 4.2.54,0001. according: to the prices current of Hansburgh, would only amount to. 1,446,0001. These price, were, of course, exclusive of duty, and there watibere a differeticirof 2„8013,0001. ' He knetv it Weald betaid that the tea inipofted intoEnglstad was of a better quality. This he did outthink waithe case,. but even supposing it was a little better, was that a sit& cient reason.for taking the sum ef2,808,0001. out Of the "watts of the people of this couotrtito 'support 'he 4.1,9 P poly of a trade which was not ang i nientingV.7lfii, state of things, he repeated, could not continue.. It bad only, as his Hon. Friend, the Msmber for Liverpool, had said, 'commenced to the present extent with t h e charter which was granted in NISI before that th e Government had a check and controul over t h e prices. The trade was given to the East ludic Company, it was tree, but they were obliged to so p , ply this .countty with a certain quantity of .tea lit a certain pike. «r otherwise. there Was authority si nce to private merchants to import it from the count r y., Unfortunately this comma had not been-canled into effect since the renewal of the chatter, and the pe op l e were subject to an actual tax of two Millions annually merely to prevent the monopoly of the East India Co ln; parry. It this were all the disadvantage of the pr e . sent system. be thought it Would be deserving the most serirus attention of the House; but the more ira. portant evil was, that it cut them off from commerce with the count.) , which, of all others, was most cake. hoed to catty on an extensive trade with England, dad impost its produce, not to the amount of bit or seve n hundred thousand pounds, but of several millio ns our 'mane. lie was an: ous not to press too lonß op cs the time of the House. What he es ishei to d o we , meetly to give an oulline of the business. He wow leave the details to some of his Honourble Friends, who, he hoped, would take a poet in the discussion. Theism which he had stated he had collected with much labour.. and the Moist iiiieht depend upon thr it accuracy. But. he implored the H u.e to consi.ter well the import ance . ot the Subject—to con.idel the good which wouldtesaltr not only to this country. hot aiso to those countries i t the welfare ot which they were So much interested.... to . look to the great benefits which would arise from c. f . lying on an unresti acted tea .e Mich countries svhieh r alto4ether. contained nearly 500000 000 of inhabitants, l le implored them to look to the adeantige of extending improvement to s ich a v..st number of persons. and into- doting amongst theni, it not English laws, at least Eng. lish justice and Eliglisn feel og. lie implored them tote. fleet upon the seisms duty which devolved quits those who were to legislate for such numbers. It was their duty to took to the interests ot both countries, and, if they midi the investigation sel,i.h he required. he had no doubt but they would come to the conclusion that the greatest benefits would arise horn totally re. moving all restrictions upon the commerce of the two countrwi. The Hon. Member concluded by moving that a Select Committee should be appointed for the purpose of inquiring into the state of trade between Great Britain and India, and between Great Britain and China. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not rise fur the purpote of following tlieHoisoisrable Gentle man through the eloquent speech or the able state. menus he had made, but to express a hope, not only from the npiuion he himself held upon the subject, but likewise from the view which the Honourable Gentle. man had taken of the question, that the Honourable Gentleman Mould. not press at this time, died under present circumstances, that the Committee should be isppointel. The Hon. Geeitientac had truly stated that this was a most important questi din. He (the Chandel. for of the Exchequer) agreed petfectly with the Hon. tifentleman on that subject. He did consider it a most important question, and he looked upon it as a branch of a very weighty question which they would soon be called upon to discuss, involving cot nierelythe trade between this country and the East Indies, but also the most serious political concerns—not only involving domestic prosperity, but also the happiness of millions', in a foreign land—involving, in fact, tie continuance ofj the connection between this country and India. He err- tautly could not undervalue the importance of such a question ; and yet he was extremely anxious *to induce the Neuss to avoid agreeing to the. Hon. Members motion. In proportion as they took the importance ofi the question into consideration; in the same propor• tion ought they to take time for important delibera tion ; and, if they were to agree to the Honourable Member's motion at present, they would utterly di,. able themselves from making the full inquiry which was necessary. It was impossible that under such ciscurni stances they could satisfy the count:* on this RrestiOno or consider what was best to be done between India ands this country. He would ask. the Honourable Geode man what chance there was, or• what hope he could] have, if die Committee were to be appointed Ibis even-. lag, of ewer making the first step towards* thE inquiry Which he wished for ? Could he ever expect to havesut- Seim time to bring forward all the arguments which were in favour of his view of the subject, much less those which were in support of a renewal of the Charter to the East India Company ? What hopes could he have of making the proper repteSentations with regard to the manes factures of this country, and other matters of sq. less importance? And, when no Wm/nation could be ac quired (mom the firmation of the Committee at present, what would be the result on public opinion? How *mild it be consistent with the character or dignity of the 'House to appoint a Committee whichithis Session, could not possibly make a satisfactory ieport? Wheithe aid he Should advise the House 'not to consent to the appoint. 'went of the Committee which the Hon. Gent. had moved for, he wished it to be understood that he did set give that advice from any feeling on his . part that it eras not essentially necessary to make some inquiry into the subject. On the contray, he felt fully per seeded that it was absolutely necessary that sot only 'the part.cular subjects to which the Honourable Gee tleman had *lidded, but also many others which be bad omitted to notice, would require the deepest* tention and consideration of a Committee of that Hods —lf he advised the non-adoption, therefore, of tie I present motion, it was only because he thought * inquity could be made more, conveniently to the House. and more satisfactorily to the public. it e future tune. It appeared to him as a necessary preliminary to the inquiry that the House should haw before it, as it had had on former occasions wits this subject was discussed, a certain quantity of doer mentary evidence which would explain some of thi principles upon which the charter had hitherto bee gratved, and which would be the means of renduivi the Members of that House much better masters of 0111 meat and important question than they could possibly be without them. It was originally the intention of hislie Hon.Frieud,whom be regretted to say was prevented br indisposition from appearing in his place that evenings and he believed it still was his intention, in :became di the present Session, to move fur the production of the documentary evidence to which he had alluded, which it appeared to Government was an indisposi preliminary to any discussion upon this subject. (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) thought, indeed and he believed many others were of the same opisi. . —that it would be imprudent and impolitic in Go' meat to commence any discussion upon the subjedd this period of the Session, when the House bad not fore it the 'Means of prosecuting the inquiry with e,s" So far, however, was the GovernMent from Insm to resist any inquiry into the subject. that it ware' asally prepared at the commencement of the' 7 Selaion to ihititute an inquiry itself—(Hears *Not a there trivial inqdiry, but such an inquiry l as a _. peered to them would be most s atisfactory to all parr, one that would at least embr a ce &Wills topics to the ifeetiar al wale Oadeub period of the la possession derived from be laid befor e td a t t n o he chs l e i P isr si o sl u : e l c sie h :o a p tfo o: e p e : e pi which this gr tween the Hoi fare, was not be discussed a sot be more of a Commis laid before th • *very one tha absolutely ne • considered or Honourable motion bad p acquiesce in tl and importan 'flied; but, in p in the same pi wait until that must in every tistactnry to th lair aad impale looked back to had' been disco position that it upon this subji the Charter of were in the ye: . the policy or ii place until the A Right Honi here observed. dm Chanel- so early a • The CHAI reply, said he I find that the su the East India did not comm *which it' hid those discossic or in two or th it would have • for we were tt would be 18S4. It was notice upon th • that' would no' House' eomme thought it wo • mislay point Should not be the notice , had would take pl amply sufficier • which• it thou He, should, tie Member, althi . garding,the brought for wa meant nothing tivntleman. E . treat weight, a the House, co , rormation and . of chi*, they h degree of teen model to be of . mots as the , its importanci warmest feeli n i . for himself he not, at the pre nion uptin the Whatever opin subject would had betore bin produce in fas and interests u advtatage of liiinselt to any ground that h . the Honouras oegbt not to t be able to dea satisfactory m Mr. HUSK • . Hop. . Friend purtotee, but most' let ious • ticblarly to th . . It was; more° upon which t • • might be; btu cilmtion io at ryinitlni; of vet . wetly°. depen, that the 'lotto a &on Como( was devolved not be lees many thouvatti his Hight Hor given' that ihi the commence ELI LO leash *ere to be gni tircumentary bad alluded t see that there presented .to the hula tune for a di earl; ; but if this advantage selectid to col ation of the se imposed imposed upon Lion to tbsasey evidence cool( if the teeess I duty which th queltina was( tue traraprillir country, but a poscesviont. It all the attentii was not only. Einpire abroal ness and well therefOn, if th this early pert chine before ANY affect thatught that toted, it wos neat Session. awl highly ne