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NOT lICLUSITZ. FOREIGN rS TELLIGENCS. (From the Messages des Chambr es, dated Monday, Nov. 8.) PARIS, Nov. 7.—lt is announced that Count de Treillard, Prefect of .h e Lower Seine, has just been appointed Prefect of Police, in room of the Hon. M. Girod de rAin, who has resigned. We are assured that the new Minister of the Interior, Count Monts livet, has given orders to all the prefects who are now at Paris by per mission of the late ministry, to return immediately to their posts. It is said that M. George Lafayette is to be appointed ambassador to the United States, and that he will embark for his destination on board the Didon frigate, which is now fitting out at Toulon. an ordinance of the 14th of October, a commission will be ap pointed to examine all the claims brought forward by citizens of the United States, and for which the Minister of those States has already commenced a negotiation with the French Government. The commis sion will examine likewise the claims made by Frenchmen, or which may be made by France, and will lay down the basis on which a de. tinitive arrangement might be concluded between the two countries. The following gentlemen are appointed members of this commission —Messrs. Viscount Lain(, Peer of France, President ; Geo. Lafayette' Risley, Member of the Chamber of Deputies ; D'Audiffret, President ' of the Court of Accounts ; Pichon, Councillor of State. Several persons have been heard to say on 'Change, on them:neon of the panic which arose two days ago, ' The funds (La Rente) will not recover till the Duke of Bordeaux shall be restored to the love of the French. It is affirmed that steps have been taken in the Parquet to carry into effect, against persons propagating reports for the purpose of affecting the Funds, the enactment of Article 1101 of the code relative to mea sures for the reporters of false news,b.c. We know that there have been in England many instances of such prosecutions. (From the Goodie de FICIISCe of Sunday, Nov. 7.) EXCHANGE or PARIS, Nov. G.—Before two o'clock the autho rities had notice posted up to contradict the report of a proclamation of war by Prussia against Belgium, and of an extraordinary levy of soldiers in France. This circumstance, added to the considerable profit. which the sellers had to realise, caused a considerable demand, and our funds became more firm and experienced a rise, which, how ever, was not supported to the end of the change. SPIRIT OF THE JOURNALS. In making up the paper yesterday, from the length of the debate, and the necessary introduction of matter of great temporary interest, supplied at a very late hour, we were reluctantly obliged to exclude the greater part of our usual extracts from the Journals. An anxiety to preserve this department of our paper complete, induces us now to an. nex what was necessarily excluded esterday. Miss.—We tender his Grace the Duke of Iffellingtoses person u highly as any Alderman, Blayor " elect" or non-elected, among the whole board. There is no public man now living, or at any time, whose life deserves trom every Briton that greater efforts, or, if MM• sary, greater sacrifices should be made by his country, to preserve It. But that a bare assertion from an individual, unauthorised by any offi cial power or tribunal, and by those more especially whom such an In- Omani ought in all good sense and propriety to have consulted, of an outrage against the individual Duke of Wellington being astreihated, should have become the ground-work of a Cabinet remonstrance to His Majesty, urging hiss, King William, to abstain from dining with his loyal citizens of the metropolis of England, is something scarcely credible. HERALD. —The excitement and consternation which the letter of the Secretary of State to the Lord Mayor occasioned in this great me. tropolis, and, no doubt, has, by this time, spatted very generally through. out England, could only be justified on grounds of urgent and extreme necessity. Such as an intended revolutionary movement, or an attack on the person of the King. Had the Government credible information of either one or the other of those violent and treasonable intentions ? The discussion of last night shows that they had not. It is not the vague assertion of a Magistrate that should be a foundation for a solemn act of a Minister of the Crown. He should ask for the certain and de. tined evidence on which the evidence was grounded, Tilers.—ln the Paris papers of Saturday we find the report of an interesting conversation in the Chamber of Deputies on Friday, respect ing the composition of the new French Ministry, and the political pros pects of Europe. M. Mauguin, the popular orator of the extreme left, took an early opportunity of expressing his genteel approbation of the , new cabinet, and of announcing that he would, on a future day, put some questions to the Minister of Foreign Affairs on the state of the f oreign relations of France. One of the ministess, General &Nadia', who was present, did not wait for the formal interrogatories of the hon. deputy, but, conceiving that his questions referred to the danger of war, declared that every thing now wore a pacific appearance,—tbat the King of England's speech gave the assurance of pease, and that no diplomatic difficulties had occurred which threatened to lead to actual hostilities. As M. Mauguin is the leader of what may be called the Mountain in the Chamber, his approbation of the new Cabinet might be considered somewhat ominous, had his remarks not called forth an answer so de cidedly tranquillizing. Trices.--For the first time during we know not how many years, or centuries of years, these was no Lord Mayor's Day yesterday. The company being unexpectedly prevented from quitting home," the dinner was put off." Public opinion; the recovering state of the funds; the proeetdingts of the official bodies; the Court of Aldermen and Court of Common Council—all prove that there was no occasion for this alarm ing breach of hallowed custom. What are we, then, to say to it ? That it was an unhappy error on the part of the Lord Mayor elect, leading to yet worse consequences; but after the apology of his Lordship, who says that be " shall never cease regretting that he has acted so erroneously," we arc disarmed. His Lordship can do no more than apologize ; he cannot re— call the act. But another Alderman appears on the stage, aid, ing actively in Instilling the mistake, and producing the result. He has made no apology yet: perhaps he perseveres in his opinion, that the Duke was, as Beatrice says, to have been " killed and eaten," if he had entered the city. The late Lord Mayor is wholly untouched in the affair : he was confined by serious illness ; but there is no doubt he would have conducted himself, on this as on every other occasion, with perfect discretion—with a due respect tor the rights of his fellow.cnizens, and a proper estimate of their public spirit. We must now pass over this grievous business. The affairs of state are of greater importance than those of the city. But one thing we must observe,—it is assumed that the Duke of Vi ellington is unpopular, and certain ex. pressions of the humbler classes of our fellow-subjects, whenever his Grace appears among them or near them, would seem to confirm the sur mise. Why is he so ? It is that unhappy note of opposition to reform which he sounded. But how are the street rioters affected by this Afore thoughtful and respectable persons feel regret ; and artful and de. signing knaves inspire the unthinking and dissolute with passion, or affected passion, on a subject in which they have but little interest.— The Duke of Wellington his done great things for the poor. He has reduced the price of beer per pot, by taking off the duty upon brewing ; and, by the new licence duty, tea multiplied the houses where it is to be !old, that the poor man can in every way procure his refreshment with infinitely greater ease. These fasts, besides his being a hero, ought to make him popnlar. It is'a curlew circumstanee to see pickpockets and prostitutes hissing the liberator of Spain and of Europe, and the con. queror of Buonaparte, in the streets el the British metropolis. Cintow mtg.—The conllagratis in the county of Kent, and some of the parishes of the adjoining counties, were last night adverted to in the house. Sir R. Peel stated that the Secretary of the Treasury was at the prevent moment at Maidstone, endeavouring to trace the causes of that extraordinary mystery which had, up to the present moment, eluded their most careful investigauon ; there were airo at Maidstone every police.offieer who, in the present state of the metropolis, could be spared. He added, that the fires were neither executed by the hands, ror devised by the heads of the peasantry of the county of Kent. Sir Edward Knatchbull improved upon Sir Robert, for be not only raid— ,, he could declare that the conlagrations in the county w Kent were not caused by the peasantry of the land ;" but that " he am persuaded that the peasantry were actuated by a very different feeling from that which influenced the authors of these out rages ; the peasantry were, he was assured, full of attachment to their employers, and t h e kw likely in the world to commit acts of that dia. bolical character." The peasantry may be strongly attached to their employers, but the going about in bands to break machines wee an odd evidence of attachment of labourers to employers. This reminds us of a happy sarcasm of the late Mr. Tierney, uttered with reference to a man who stole some sheep, and whom the late Mr.Henrick endeavoured, notwithstanding the strongest evidence of crime, to screen—that the in. dividual in question might be a very honest man, but he had a very odd way of dealing with sheep. We do not mean to say that the peasantry are concerned in the conflagrations, but we know that the employment of Irish labourers in hay time and harvest, by which the prices of labour at that period of the year when workmen used to cal culate on making something to p a y their cottage rents and clear off odd 'mote die- has kd to great irritation. We do not believe Sir Edward linatchball.—though we would not lend ourselves to e xagg eration, by dewibing the condition of the working people as genftvilly worse than, n w as , neither would we lend ourselves to the description of an attac h. ment which has no existence in reality. We rather believe Earl Sean hope, the Duke of Richmond, Lord Radnor, and other*, who Illy- that that is almost everywhere • bad feeling among the peasantry towards their employers. Cezoarcts.—Thete is no doubt, we think, that the Duke et Welliquor, °henries hew mush the Mittonacy Is gamed kept aloof' from the people, when the latter gave so unreserved an expresson to I their sympathy with the French after the late Revolution, counted on the same alarm which swelled the ranks of Nlr. Pitt, at the period of the former Revolution. He thought all lesser differences would be forgotten, and that the Aristocracy of all shades of opinion, would throw themselves into his arms, as being the only man who could pilot the vessel of the State through the dangerous rocks and quicksand* on every side of it. It is evidently not a weakness of his Grace to think too favourably of human nature. Unfortunately for himself, he not only thinks unfavourably of mankind, but forgets that men, however lax in their principles, like to find some pretext which they conceive the world does not see through, for their aberrations. Hypocrisy has been defined the homage which vice pays to virtue, and his Grace seems to have forgotten that even where virtue does not exist, its place is supplied by hypocrisy. He thought he had only to whistle, and the Tories would all rush into his arms. He knew that the regard professed by them for our Protestant Constitution was in general a piece of affectation, and seems to have be lieved, that after allowing a decent time to them for their grief, they would be glad to return to the crib. But the Tories have not answered the call. In the pamphlet, "The Country without a Government," the Tories alluded to, receive the credit of being honest men. It would, perhaps, have been nearer the truth to say, that they are afraid of losing the credit of being honest men, by too abrupt an union with the great destroyer of the Protestant Constitution. They hang back for the resort part. It may be also, that they had information of the ground at Court being hollow under the Duke of Wellington, and did not like to sacri fice appearances for nothing. However, it would be unfair to suppose that, in the case of some of the Tories, the head is not more in fault than the heart. Burke on one occasion remarks, that the House of Commons is not "wholly corrupt, though there is a large proportion of corruption in it. There are nwiny Members who generally go with the Minister, who will not go all lengths." The Duke prefers whole length men, but it may not be politic to let men too plainly sec the low estimate you form of them. FULLEST DETAILS OF THE STATE OF TILE METROPOLIS YESTERDAY AND LAST NIGHT At an early hour the various streets along which the Royal pagesn would have had to pass yesterday, on its way to the Guild Ihal wee unusually thronged, but evidently only by persons attracted from curi osity to witness the extensive preparations everywhere making for the occasion. The crowd was composed principally of respectable persons, whose sole motive was curiosity. Fears, however, were entertained lest a tumult might be produced in the evening, as it is well known that the pickpockets are in the habit of availing themselves of extensive concourses of people for the purpose of creating con. fusion, and thus procuring for themselves opportunities of plun. dering with impunity. Before noon it was evident that organised bands of pickpockets were prowling about, both in the City and Westminster, and hence precautions were taken to defeat their ends. About two o'clock in the afternoon a sham light was attempted to be got up in Fleet-street, and crowds soon collected, some merely from idle curiosity, but others from far different motives. The consequence was, the pathway on either side became blocked up, and on an outcry being raised, and some hats tossed up, the whole crowd were hurried on a distance of full five hundred yards. What robberies might have been committed upon the many respectable persons who, without antici pating such a rush, found themselves thus unceremoniously mixed up pelf null with the mob, it is impossible at this moment to tell. That the main object of this, as of' every preceding recent mob in the city, was plunder, there can be no doubt. At an early hour in the evening the New Police were called out in considerable numbers, and by five o'clock in the evening a double row flanked the edge of either pavement on the Westminster side of Temple Bar for a considerable distance. This precaution was not taken without occasion, for before this period a dense mob had collected within Temple-bar, in avowed antici pation of seeing the lamps placed there for an illumination lighted up. It was at last found necessary, at a late hour in the afternoon, to em. ploy workmen in removing the temporary gas pipes by which the light ing up was intended to have been effected, fur fear any of the mob should take upon themselves to clamber the bar and communicate light to the various gas orifices As soon as the workmen:arrived for that purpose, a body of the people assembled ran through the avenues into Westmin ster, and endeavoured to excite alarm by cries of " Fire, fire !" A large body of the police was drawn up about six o'clock in the open space leading to Wateoloo Bridge, and similar precautions were taken in other parts of Westminster. The whole of Westminster was then, and hadibeen ' throughout the day, perfectly tranquil. About two o' clock in the afternoon, the Duke of Wellington, in passing through the Horse Guards, was cheered. Ail, also, was perfectly quiet during the sitting of the two Houses. Neither, however, sat late; the Lords having risen at six, and the Commons at eight o'clock. At seven o'clock, the end of Fleet-street, by Temple. bar, was nearly impassable, and the mob, who, stretching th emse l ves beyond the pathway, left b arely room for a coach to pass, demanded ftom each passenger or coachman, as a passport, that he should pull off his hat, and shout. The passage of those who objected was resisted, but up to ten o'clock, not with such violence es a firm man, with good horse, could not easily overcome. The state of West minster, up to ten 'o'clock afforded a marked contrast. liveey. where the Police were active, and marching in strong detach ments from street to street, preserving excellent order. They were occasionally taunted by the mob, and in one Instance a body of nearly 100, in passing along the Strand, was received by a band of itinerant musicians, who played " The Campbells are coming," which having I been parodied into "'the Bailiffs' are coming !" and, lastly, into" See, the Policemen are coming I" was evidently intended to annoy the Police ; but they bore it patiently, and passed on. As a proof of the efficacy of the New Police it may be mentioned, that at a time when it was scarcely possible to reach beyond St. Dunstan's Church towards Temple Bar. any person on the Westminster side might have easily paned up to the Bar, and, doubtless, if the same police had had the care of the other side, through it also. It is due, however, to the City Police to state, that by nine o'clock they mustered strongly about the bar, and removed much of the annoyance which was before experienced. Early in the afternoon the magistrates of Bow-street issued a caution to persons to abstain from stopping up the ways, and particularly advising housekeepers to keep their servants and children at home. In the City and NVestmineter the shopkeepers generally closed their shops before dusk. From an early hour, also, the Horse Guards were ordered to their Barracks, and there kept in seediness for any emergency. A strong detachment, fully accoutred, was to be ob served standing each by the side of his horse during the night, in the area of the Horse Guards fronting Whitehall. The Foot Guards were also kept in readiness. From about five o'clock last evening the metropolis was in a state of great turbulence, passengers and inhabitants fearing violence from the disorderly mobs which pervaded the principal streets. The first indica tion of a mob was round the House of Lords. Mr. Lee, the High Constable of Westminster, with a body of special constables, preserved tolerable order, and the disposition of the crowd was rather inclined to frolic than to mischief. The crowd was kept in a circle by Mr. Lee, and the members got out of their carriages without molestation, but they were assailed by shouts Indicative of the popular feeling. At six o'clock a large body to the new police, amount. ing, as nearly as we could calculate, to GOO men, was marched to the House of Lords, and the mob, at their approach, immediately dis persed. In every case of insult offered to the police, however, they conducted themselves with great forbearance. About this time the mob at Temple-bar became nwnerous enough to excite alarm ' and the re port was spread that the Station-house in Picket-street had been des troyed. The division E, under the direction of Inspector List, was marched to the spot. The report was, of course, unfoundtd, but the state of the street required the utmost activity of the Police. From this hour Temple Bar seemed to be a sort of focus for bringing the merits of the New Police and the old system into contrast. On the west of Temple-bar there was neither the picking of pockets nor the offering of outrage to passengers ; but passing Tempie.bar, the scene was totally changed. The persons in the carriages were obliged to take off their hats, Itee and every passenger was assailed by missiles; and the loss of property was not inconsidera ble. About halt-past eight o'clock the police, stationed at Temple-bar, received information that the mob from Spitalfields were coming in great force to the wesit.end of the town. We understand that the mob had armed themselves for mischief, by pulling down, and cutting up into missiles, the paling and scaffolding erected in front of the new haw In. stitutitm in Chancery-lane; and thus prepared in great numbers, and in a state of peculiar excitement, they advanced from Temple-bar with a tri.t.oloured flag, amidst denunciations against the New Police, with a determination to penetrate to the centre of the west end of the town and the Public Offices. The police were, of course, obliged to retreat; but on falling back to Catherine-street, they were joined by parties of men belonging to N and F Divisions. Thus reinforced they rallied, and advancing towards Temple-bar, they were opposed by an immense mob opposite Somerset House. The mob, however, were more disposed to make a noise than to do mischief, and the police charging them with violence, many were wounded, and we saw numbers of them lying on the pavement cut and bruised, in a state of insensibility; but very few were taken into confinement. Several of the police also received severe injuries, but they were chiefly from missiles, such as stones and brick-bats, burled at them before they could use their staves with effect.— Shortly after the complete dispersion of this portion of the rioters a report was brought to Mr. Mayne that it was their intention, by a cir cuitous route, to reach the residence of Sir Robert Peel, in Privy. gardens, fur he purpose of wreaking on it that additional degree of vengeance which was naturally excited by their discomfiture elsewhere. The report, however, proved to be unfounded. Whether it was that the rioters were disheartened by their defeat in the Strand, oe that they were dawned by the strong assemblage of policemen in the vicinity of Whitehall (amounting to nearly 600 men), no demonstration of viok. was offered in that quarter. About half past bve the refuse of the mob which at an earl hour had assembled in the City, proceeded through the Strand in a body of between 300 and 400, consisting principally of boys of the lowest de wiption, vociferating " No Peel—Down with the raw lobsters !" and other expressions of a simile, tendency in opposition to the Polka On arriving as Catberino.oweet, they tip it, heeded by a youth about 16, who cheered on the throng with " This way, my lads—we'll give it them." A temporary halt was made at the cornet of York-street, and from the cheering, and expressions of " On my boys, now is the time !" together with the majority of the gang turning towards Russell -court, it was feared that an attack was about to be made on the pawnbroker's at the corner. Slich 7 how. ever, fortunately, proved not to be the case, for the leader of this body flourished a small stick which he held in his hand, and away he led the I mob down York -street. through Nlaiden-lane, Chandos-street. Hem. wing's-row, and immediately in the rear of the menagerie, at Charing. cross, the whole of them yelling, shouting, groaning, and breaking win. dows in their progress. A halt was made at the bottom of the lane for the purpose, it would appear, to arrange upon the road to be pursued, ' they being at this time rather in a narrow situation. The word of com mand was shortly given and away they were about dashing over the heaps of rubbish and th e d ee p holes caused by the palling down of several houses near the menagerie, when a strong body of pollee, of the E. divi sion, who were in waiting to receive them, rushed upon them, and dealt out most unmetciful blow, with their staves on the heads and arms of the mob. The captain of the gang was the first to retreat, in doing which be informed his fellow participators in the riot, that the "police men were surrounding them." In the confusion to retreat, added to the narrowness of passage through which they had to pass, numbers of the rioters fell over head and heels into the deep holes around the spot. Many crawled out with broken heads, others with severe bruises, and several with dislocated limbs, principally caused by the trun. cheons of the new police ; but the whole managed to escape in some way or other, and nothing more was heard of them. We were inclined to think that the staves of the men were in this instance unnecessarily used, fur we are certain that the entire of this disorderly assemblage might have been dispersed by half a dozen resolute consta bles. The men, however, it was stated, in extenuation of their making so desperate a charge on the mob, had been dreadfully harassed of late, the major part of them having been on duty two days and nights ; and when they retrained, on previous occasions, from using their truncheons, the mob took advantage of it, and unmercifully ill-treated them ; so much so, indeed, that in one division alone nearly a dozen men are at present unable to attend to their duty. In the course of the evening, another mob of between 400 and 500 persons, proceeded along Piccadilly; and, in a smart trot, niade their way to Apttley House, the residence of the Duke of Wellington, Ital. looing, and, in their progress thither, the usual expressions of disappro. 'bation towards the Noble Duke, Mr. Peel, and the police. On their reaching the end of Piccadilly, they were met by a strong force of the D division of police, who succeeded in ultimately dispersing them in different directions, without, we believe, any serious accident to either party. At eleven o'clock Piccadilly, and the whole of the west end of the town, from the bottom of the Haymarket upwards, was in an undisturbed state; but the pollee, In number be. tween 400 and 600, were drawn up in Spring-gardens, re sly to act should necessity require them to do so. Frequent eommunk ttions took place from the diffivent station-houses to the head-quarters in Scotland. yard, and the men employed as messengers upon this occasion were at tired in plain clothes, the better to facilitate their progre.s and prevent them from being attacked. It would appear that policemen were brought from the mat distant quarters, in order to form a strong opposition to the rioters. Between twenty and thirty of the rioters who were captured bear Temble.bar, were conveyed to Portugal-street watch.house, the ma jority of whom had received injuries in various pans of the body, but more particularly on the head. Upwards of 30 that were taken to the station-house in Picket-place were discharged, it being ascertained that they had accidentally mixed with the rioters. At eleven o'clock not one individual was conveyed to St. James's Station house on a charge of riot, and from the undisturbed state in which that part of the 31etropolis remained at that hour, we should be inclined to suppose no riot would ensue. As early as six o'clock the shops in St. Paul's Chutch.yard, Lud gate-hill, and Fleet-street, were completely closed, in consequence of the number of men assembled. The City Police in motion in the course of the day amounted to from 500 to GOO men including the firemen, ticket porters, and tackle por ters. At twelve o'clock there were scarce twenty spectators remain ing in King-street. Monday evening, • detachment belonging to the Third Battalion of the Grenadier Regiment of Guards marched from the Armoury-yard in the Bird-cage Walk, into the Duke:of Wellington's mansion, for fear of any attack on it by the rioters. IMPERIAL PARLIAAIENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Nov. 9. Lord Wynford sat this day for the Lord Chancellor, upon Appeals. The Duke of Wellington entered the House at five o'clock. PRIVATE On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, it was ordered that no petitions for private bills be received after Thursday, the 17th Wof March ; and no reports from the Judges on private bills after dnesday, the 13th day of April. ILAVEIT. Lord CARLISLE presented a number of petitions against slavery in the colonies, from various pans of York and Cumberland. Earl SPENCER presented petitions against negro slrvery, from the inhabitants of Portsmouth and Northampton. The Duke of NORFOLK petitions to the same effect, fromOlocester and Norfolk. The Bishop of Lichfield, the Bishop of Bath and Wells, Lord Tan. kerville, the Earl of Aberdeen, Earl Radnor, Lord Falmouth, Earl Grosvenor, and Lord Calthorpe, presented petitions to the same effect. BLACIC.LEAD MINZRA. The Marquis of CLEVELAND presented a petition from the persons employed in the lead mines of Cumberland, praying for relief under the pressure of distress. The noble marquis observed on the occasion , that great distress prevailed in the mining districts; but he ha d the pleasure to state that the distress was less than it was last Session of Parliament, when he brought the subject before Podia. The petition was read, and laid on the table. COPPER TRADE. Lord FAL'AIOUTII rose to direct the attention of the noble duke to a circumstance of importance to the part of the country in which be resided (Cornwall.) One-third of the population of that county de pended on the copper trade, which at that time was greatly injured by the importation of foreign ore. The noble lord called the attention of his Alajesty's Government to the subject on a former occasion, in the expectation of seeing some remedial measure ; and he again, in this instance, recommended the subject to the consideration of his Majesty's Government. The Duke of WELLINGTON assured the noble earl that he came to a conclusion last year, that interference in the copper trade would do more harm than good. This year he had tum.d his attention to it, and if any amelioration could be tffecttd nothing would be wanting in his Majesty's ministers. COAL TRADE. The Marquis of I.ONDONDKRBY gave notice that be shoold pre. sent two petitions on Thursday on the subject of the Coal Trade. The Duke of RICH 310 ND presented • petition from Lewes, in Sussex, fur revision of the Bankrupt Laws. ADDRIISS TO Tlllt XING. Lord TRYNHANI gave notice of his intention to submit a motion on Monday welt, respecting the state of Kent. The noble lord's mo tion would be, That an humble Address be preserved to his Majesty, praying his Majesty to order an inquiry into the present state of the labouring classes in the county of Kent: secondly, to pray his Majesty will be graciously pleased to give directions to the Lord Lieutenant of the county to raise a local force for the purpose of giving protection to the property of the county ; thirdly, to pray that a commission be appointed to incluire into the Poor Laws, with a view of affording a re medy for the distress now existing among farmers and labourers. The house then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Nov. 9. Several members were sworn anti took their seats. Mr. WHIT MOR E presenttd a petition from Bridgenorth against slavery in the colonies. Sir J. WROTR.SLEY presented a similar prtition from Lake, in Staffordshire. Mr. SYKES p►esented •even similar petitions from places in 'York. shire. Mr. GREEN presented a similar petition from Lancaster. SG% WAUGH resented ah . • lar petition front Guildford. Lord KERING VON presented a similar petition from Devon. AIL SPENCE gave notice that after Christmas he should bring forward a motion respecting the Court of Chancery. Lord KENNEDY gave notice diet he should, atter Christmas, move for leave to bring in a bill to enable the eldest sons of Scotch Peers to represent properly in that house. REPEAL OF THE VEIOII. Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition hem the county of Water ford, signed by MOO of his constitu-nts, for the repeal of the Legible. tire Union. That measure, the petitioners said, had been carried by the hues* treachery, and had impoverished Ireland, without benefit to England. That the people of Ireland were in a state bordering on despair, and the only measure capable of affording relief was the repeal of the Union. Mr. DOHERTY hoped the hon. member for Waterford would name a day for the discui.sior of the subject. Whenever he should do that, it would appear the people of Ireland had no desire for the repeal of the Union. Mr. O'CONNELL said no man could be more anxious for the pros perity and peace of Ireland, and far the connection between Ireland and this country, than be was; and it was because he felt it so deeply that he WWI anxious that Ireland should have a separate legislature. The Chief Justice of Ireland bad &dared that the Parliament of Ireland had not the power to transfer the Itini hture of their country ; and Lewd Plaskett had declared that, like Hannibal, he would swear ►is sons to perpetual hostility against the Union. Is was the anivereal wish of the Irish nation to have a separate Irghisms. He would condom to discuss the ■ubjrct on the presentation of petitions, till the public mind became familiar with the subject, and they would then see the absolute necessity of the repeal of the Union. Mr. DAWSON said, that by the perverseness of the hon. gentleman who had presented the petition, he had prevented the question or the repeal of toe Union being brought to a fair bearing. If it were to be brought forward to an Impartial hearing, he (Mr. Dawson) would venture to say that the house would fired that every individual in Ireland of infiu..nce, every individual of respectability, and every individual possessed of property would oppose such a mea sure. With respect to the facts stated in the -petition the honourable member had presented, he (Mr. 1).) would boldly deny them. It stated that Leland was governed by tax-gatherers and excisemen. Did the hon. gentleman opposite not know that for one tax-gatherer or exciseman now, before the Union there existed at least forty. The Union had had the effect of preserving the country from what had been called the curse of the country—the existence of the tanlastlierers and the excisemen. The tax-gathering sy.tem was al•tinst entirely ex tinguished. There was scarcely a tax.gatherer to he met thrimghnot the country. The fact was that the repeal of the Union Act lad tit•wr been thought of before the separation took place between Belgium Lei Holland, and then it was that the lion. member had thought proper to resort to his trade of agitation, and to excite the mob of Ireland by raising his fresh question of discussion. The hon. member indulged in the most extraordinary speeches both in and out of that house. lie (Mr. 1).) had heard the hon. member say that no less than 800 families had been driven by a noble peer from his estates in the county of Wicklow. In consequence of this statement, he (Mr. Dawson) had taken the trouble of making enquiries upon the subj•ct, and be had got a most complete refutation of the calumniating asseroon. Mr. Challoner, agent to hoed Fitzwilliam, residing in Ireland, and dispensing around him all the advantage of his intelligence and acquire ments, had addressed a letter on the subject to the Editor to the Dublin Post, to the following effect:—"Sir,—Having observed in the public prints that Mr. O'Connell tins accused Lord Fitzwilliam, or, rather, the person to whom his lordship has confided the managyment of his Irish property, of an intention to drive NO families from his estate, I beg mo.t unequivocally to smite that there never was a nicr gross falsehood uttered." (Loud cheers.) I will not say that what the hon. member had said is false and base, but I will say that I do be lieve Mr. Elialloner, and that I do not believe the hon. member. (Laughter and cheers.) This is the answer which I have received, and by others have been termed one of the grossest falsehoods ; the lion. member iwill hare the oprotunity of retraction—he will also have the benefit of that retraction, and I do believe that his retraction will be just about as satisfactory to the public as his gross and Ithe astiertioba. 3lr. HUME rase to enter his protest against the course adopted by the hon. member (Mr. Dawson) opposite. He begged to know what right that hon. gem. had to inquire into the conduct of any member when out of that house, and bring it fors ard fur die purpose of making an at tack on that tnember ? What right had the hon. member opposite to call the hon. member fur Waterford an agitator of Ireland ? %Va• the time of that house to be spent in harangues of the description that had just been made ? lie hoped that those who belonged to the government would trot set the example of giving cause for making splits to attacks upon subjects totally irrelevant to the business of that house. There was not an honourable member but whose conduct upon principle fur any number of years past, might be exposed to 111-natured attacks, if such a line of proceeding as this was always to be followed.— ' (Hear. hear.) How could the hon. member dare to insinuate that ' a petition declared in the house to be signed by 8,000 respectable bid,- viduals was the petition of a mob ? IVers it the petition of a single individual, and had that individual not one penny in the world. were it couched in respectful terms, it was just as touch entitled to the re spect and attention of that house, as if it were a petition from it., wealthiest lord, or a petition signed by all the peers the country could produce (cheers). 11 henever his learned and honourable friend w a s celled an agitator, a dangerous man, or so on, Its always t. It that tbos using such language had no ground for making any well-ft 111 l ultsl act e lation. If thi hon. member opposite had really any complairt to make against the hon. member for M aterfotd, let him do it regularly and for mally, and not again spend the time of the house in the useless manner which he had now done. Lord BELFAST was perfectly persuaded that ninety-nine out of a hundred individuals in Ireland opposed even the agitation of the ques tion of the repeal of the Union. lie knew it to be the opinion of the respectable inhabitants of the town in which he had the honour to re side, as independent and as honourable as any class of persons in Ire land # and it was right that not only Irish, but English members of the House of Commons should know this, that ninety-nine out of a hun dred would not agree to the agitation of the question. The agitation of the question to the extent to which It had gone bad already one great mischief; it had stopped English capital going to Ireland—it had put people of property into a stateof consternation. (Loud cheers.) Aber the unqualified statement that had been made, that the people, and the whole people of Ireland, were in favour of a repeal of the Union. he thought be ought to lose no time in giving the assertion the broadest and fullest contradiction. All the property, all the intelligence, all the independence of Ireland. were against the re• peal of the Union (long and continued cheers)--and also against vet rt the agitation of the question at the present time. His lerdship had trusted that there was a quiet, a repose intended for Ireland ; but ll' ad vantage were to be taken of the dissensions in the Netherlands, alit! that, too, by factious demagogues—(hear, hear)—who went a b ou t tht country regardless of their character, reg ardless of all honour and de cency, to oppose and break down the laws of their country, then it was high time for every independent gentleman to step forward for the pur pose of' putting down a train of such doings. With regard to the sug gestion thrown out by the hon. member for Middlesex, his lordship could not but concur in the propriety of it, were the system to be car ried to any extent; but he would venture to say, that no insinuations would be thrown out, nor any such course of conduct adopted towards any member of that house, except the hon. member for N'aterfoid, who had signalised himself by his singularity. Mr. SHAW said, that by far the greater number of his conwiwents, both in point of number and respectability, were decidedly opposed w the repeal of the union. Mr. O'GRADY was of opinion, that whenever the question of a w_ peal of she union was to be fairly brought forward, it must be brought forward coupled with other important measures. There were prevailing sentiments in Ireland in favour of the repeal, coupled with other cir cumstances, and many of those who were in any way in favour of it, would shrink from giving the question their sanction, if it were to be considered drily and nakedly. As to the tax-gatherers of Ireland, Irishmen had been employed in that office ; but when their accounts were tound to be incorrect, or their conduct improper, they were re moved, and Englishmen put into their places. This had caused great discontent, and advantage was taken of it, as one ground on which to tale and agitate the present question. Mr. O'CONNELL acknowledged that he was singular lie sloth d in his singularity, which consisted in this—that when lie war Uncalled to the bar, he was the inferior of the hon. member for Londundeny, at d by his increasing industry he had raised himself to be his equal, if nut his superior. In the first place, he had called upon the pcnple of Water ford to return him as their member, because he was decidedly in favour of a repeal of the Union. The hon. member (31r. Dawson) had said that before the Union there were many more tax-gatherers than there were now. This was a moat singular statement from a wan in his s Libation. (Hear, bear.) Did he not know that the whole number of persons in Ireland at that time did not ainuunt to mote than about six millions 1 and by a reference to the hon. gentle. man's own speech made in 1822, there was a minutia declaration that there was no country known to be so lightly tamed as Ireland—no country so lightly taxed as Ireland. He knew the reason why the ho nourable gentleman had addressed himself in the strain he had dune. Why he had received from the country money enough to purcoase ;l e i fee siniple of the Isle of Man, and if he could ben g forward a soli. tary Mountie in which he had done a single particle of good, lie wuuiel get him a gift made of the whole island. (Ctieets.) I e introduced land Fitswilliani's name with a calumny uptau his (3lr. O'Connell's,) we it would be recollected by the house that when he mentioned the cumuli,. stance that had been alluded to, he rued ,aid eight hundred persons, mid not tight hundred families ; and triter. the boa. gemlennut read the ex ceedingly cautious letter he had read, common justice required that he should have stated it was eight ha:o:red 'Naval* that had been men. ;toned in that house, and Thai he (31r. O'Connell,) bad replied to that letter. Ile had never said eight tiondretl fatbilita were under twice to quit; and what was morn, he had never been represented in any newspapers to have stated any such thing. lie would defy any Man to produce a newspaper in which he was represented to hare made suet) a stateinent. Ile had said, and be repeated now, that there were WO iialividuak, he verily believed. under notice to quit him die estate et Lord Fitswilliam. ile Mid got documents to trove that 800 acres oc cupied by sixty families were to becouie vacant by 3lay next, and that one Mille:dual, a .Ir. Simons, had the promise troy air. thallueer of the 1111141 h . Again, the assertion that was suede by the petition be had the hoeuur of presenting was the very language winch mad been wade use of by Lord Chief Justice Dust e. Did gentleinen think that by assail ing him (Mr. ISC.) they would repress the wish in she bosoms ref the people en Ireland to have a repeal of the Union ? No; they were egre giously mistaken if they did Mike so. lie knew there were three pro. vinces in Ireland altogether favourable to the repeal; there was one newspaper or Newry that had become a convert to the necessity .f it, and advocates in f a vour of it were tieing up every day. lie had beard four or fire lionotauLle members eptak upon the subject; but he bad not heard one syllable Irvin any one of them hi favour of fate Union. As English member .or a !Mita bonne, h had called this the petition of a mob. and nothing could have been uttered more entirely unseat. Thome who had signed it were equal in rank arid station, and impeder in insti -1 ligenCe to the honourable gialkalan al* had made the hold assertion— were his equals—rant-tenths his aujieriure. (Load and costiased Lodger.) the tow. member represented nothing sow that was kirk; be had tried his hand ;he had failed halt ken toned ens--he bad left his country, got into a rotten bonsib, and sow lea mos forward to attack the man who stood tip to do Ilia duty to Ireland. Ireland deserved a proper discharge of duty from hes sepassotadves; he to the ounoret of his power should discharge kis dot), although in doe language of CbitfJusticy lithise, behind had flew sonsetair airy thing from Ragland, but that which had bogs muss Ism It Nit drips . , .~ I I I. l i , I