Star. — London, England, 1830-02-19 00:00:00

Aui4put a • :Tr 51,77.';" • . • .~ . . .~~~ • -; ~- ".-" ;-~-. 'I . : . IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.-THURSDAY. Shortly after five the Duke of Wellington and the Ministers en. tered the house. The Lord Chancellor likewise entered, and took his scat on the woolsack. DISTRESS. Viscount TORRINOTON presented a petition, signed by 450 persons from Tonbtidge and its vicinity, praying a repeal of the Acts which impose duties on malt and beer, and complaining of distress. The noble viscount described the distress under which the population laboured, in that part of Kent with which he was ac quainted, as being extreme and entirely unprecedented. The petition having been read, and laid on the table, Viscount TORKING roN begged to call the attention of the House to a statement which he held in hand, relating to the parish of Alerewell, in Kent, where he resided. The statement had been drawn up by a person in that parish, whose means of informs. thin were most complete on the subject to which it referred ; and, therefore, might be taken as containing most accurate information. The number of acres in the parish amounted to 2,200. About 1,200 of this was wood, and not of much value to the tenant; the remaining thousand was very valuable, consisting chiefly of h 9. gardens and plantations. The rental amounted to 1,6681. and the poors'-rate and other charges were about 15a 6d. in the pound ! The population consisted of 755 individuals, of whom 456 received parish allowance. Of persona receiving relief residing in the parish the number was 323, and 133 who were relieved, not living in the parish. Since the late severe weather 30 families, amounting to 90 persons, who had never been relieved before, had recourse to the parish resources. The poors'-rate, Ohurch.rate, &c. amounted to 1,511. sod the pooh'-rate on the tithe to 3721. making a total of 1,6231 This was from the 25th March, 1828, to the 25th March, 1829. The statement, as he had before said, bad been carefully drawn up, and was very accurate in its particulars. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition front a parish in Sussex, complaining of the distress under which the petitioners were suffering. The Duke of DIWONSHIRE presented a pedants from a parish in the West Riding of Yorkshire against the renewal of the East India Company's Charter; likewise complaining of taxation. Earl DARNLEY presented a petition from a parish in Ireland, praying the extension of the poor laws to that kingdom. The Marquis of CLEVELAND moved fur returns of the quan. tity of lead and lead ore exported and imported from the lat January, 1825, to the Ist of January, 18110, distinguishing the quantity ported and exported in each year.—Agreed to. CURRENCY. On the motion of the Duke of WELLINGTON, certain returns of the gold and silver coined from the let of January, 1821, to the 3lbt of December, 1829, distinguishing the amount coined and is sued each year, were ordered. The return (said the noble duke would probably furnish the noble earl opposite (Earl Stanhope with the informatior which lie required, in addition to that deriv from other returns moved for. Earl Stanhope said it now appeared that the statement which the noble Duke had read to the house on the first night of the session was founded on a fallacy, because it was to be inferred from it that the amount of money named in it was then in circulation. The Duke of WELLINGTON was inclined to believe that the impression which he entertained on examining the statements on which he had founded the one, the subject of the present observe. tions, was what other noble lords would have likewise entertained; had they pursued the same course. What he bad asserted on that occasion was, a comparison between the two periods as to the then lation of the country, and he believed that he was accurate. But it was only a comparison, after all. He had asserted that there was now a larger quantity of coin in circulation than at the preceding period to which reference had been made. Viscount GODERICH thought that the returns for which the noble duke had moved would put their lordships in full possession of all the Information necessary to come to a sound conclusion on • the subject to which they had reference. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE considered the official returns relating to the exportation and importation of gold as containing only an approximation to the fact; but he did not attach much im. portance to the returns, even if they could be accurately produced. The question for the production of the returns moved for by the Duke of Wellington was then put and carried. Mr. Danvers, from the India-house, presented at the bar the amount of pay and pensions granted by the East India Company. The returns of the commissioners for the port of Arundel were also presented at the bar, by Mr. Holmes. On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, Shackerly's divorce bill was read a second time. CANDIA.-.NAVAL oraTnercwrows. Lord HOLLAND said, before their lordships proceeded to the order of the day, he wished to ask a question of the noble lords op. posite (the ministers), relating to a point which he considered of considerable importance, before the nal settlement of Greece was arranged. He understood that his majesty's adminiatradon had authorised the British admiral in the Mediterranean to search all Turkish vessels which should have slaves on board ; by slaves he meant women and children captured and carried off from their native land. It was extremely desirous that those instructions should be known ; they had been more than once recognised by his majesty's ministers in parliament, and he apprehended that no could be taken to their p r od uct i on . Th e i nstruct i ons, to wh o r eluded, had been given so far back as F e b ruary IBM a , that was a period, few months before the signing of the protocol relating to the affairs of Greece. He believed it was admitted that the British admiral bad such instruedona ; now he wished to know whether they ap. plied to Candle, as well as to the Mona and the Negropont ? It was a very material question which ever way it was answered. Earl BATHURST commenced by regretting that the• noble baron had not previously communicated his intention, as then a more accurate,,answer would have been returned. As well as he recollected the facts, they were these. Intimation had been given that Ibrahim Pacha had issued a proclamation, stating a determi nation of carrying into Egypt a s slaves the population whom he subdued. in consequence of this representation, instructions were sent to the admiral in the Medittaranean th at, to apply to Ibrahim Pacha to kno w w h et h er suc h a procl amation had been issued by him, and, in case he replied in the affirmative, that he was then to be made acquainted with the intention of his majesty's ministers, who had determined to prevent the execution of his plan. Ibrahim Pacha said he would give no answer, ;because he was ex ecuting the orders of the Sultan, to whom application was to be made. In point of fact, however, it was discovered that no such proclamation as the one alluded to had been issued. However, them being reason to apprehend that such a principle on the part of Ibrahim Pacha would be acted upon, instruction were given to the :British Ad miral to prevent that object —viz. the enslaving the popu lation of the country that might be unfortunately placed within the power of Ibrahim Pacha. Viscount GODERICII though his noble friend was not quite correct when he described that the Admiral had immediate instruc tions to proceed. What he believed was, if his (Lord Goderich's) memory were accurate that the British Admiral had directions to communicate with the' Government at home, before he reeeeded further. The instructions thus given were founded upon a nate of things represented as existing, but which in point of fact newer did; and the instructions, therefore, became absolutely dead. Lard HOLLAND considered it absolutely necessary to say two words in explanation. The question was, what was the parthulas nature of the instructions sent out—taking it for granted that the order wu in e force—and wh et h er t h ey applied to Candle, as well u the Mores and Negropont ? The Duke of WELLINGTON said it was very difficult, at that period of time, to state the exact terms of the yaw. As far as his own recollection went, he believed the order to be applicable solely to the Mores. He did not think that the order applied to Candle, or any other part than that specified. Lord HOLLAND wu gratified at the direct anttexplide rawer of the noble duke. "If I understand the noble duke peordy,“ said Lord Holland, " the order does not extend to Candle." The Duke of WELLINGTON.—As well as I recollect. Lord HOLLAND said, consequently alter the poileados Oteece the order wou ld not apply to Q:ndia. The cerginal Pie% ag he heard, was made previously to the protocol, and do Tangy sr the 6th of July. On what principle was it made ? Oa the pis. eiple of humanity : to prevent a repetition of those Nines yid* Outraged human nature, and shocked every feeling. This country had shown the right to interfere if the attempt be again made to import any number of Greeks to Egypt, and we had set an example to the other powers of Europe in that respect. Now he would wish to know, if those powers followed up that right, what would be. come of the pacifieation of that part of the world ? It was theeefere Proper, fur the perfect settlement of Greece, that this point should be decided ; and even if England did not interfere on any other ground, it was called upon to act by the voice of humanity. The Duke of IVELLINGTON—Whenever the noble lord chooses to make an explicit motion, I am ready to meet him on this or any other question, and to afford him every explanation and information in my power. Lord HOLLAND wished to know whether, among the slaves delivered up in consequence of the treaty between Admiral Cadging !on and the Pacha of Egypt, there were not some Candiotes ? Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that he really could not say whether there were Candiotes er not among the number ; but he 'wished to remark that there was a great differena betweeh a few slaves and the carrying off a whole population. It was to be Ob served that, in all cases, the Greeks were not averse to their mows, withand when the choice was given t o the slaves in the Turkish army ill their be. or g• 2 co ETurkish magypt, tstershey . , with few exceptions, all agreed se may The subject then dropped. N°• 13,402. POIIITUGAL. Viscount MELBOURNE moved that that parr of his Majesty's speech which referred to Poetugal, should be read. The clerk of the house read it to the following effect : " His Majesty laments that he is not able to announce to you the prospect of a teconriliation between the Princes of the house of am ' 64 His Majesty has not yet deemed it expedient to reestablish' his Majesty's diplomatic relations with the kingdom of Portugal ; but the embarrassments arising from the continued interruption of those relations increases his Majesty's desire to effect the termination of so serious an evil." Viscount MELBOURNE--Your lordships having heard that portion of the speech ; perceiving from it what little hopes his ma jesty entertained of bringing those negocistions to a close on the 6th of Feb. 1829, and that he even appeared still less sanguine at, the close of the last session of Parliament—knowing the gr eat inelige nieace which arises to this cottony front the discontM - uanoe et our connection with Portugal—and my noble friend, the Secretary fer Fe reign Affairs, having stated on the first night of the session that he looped upon the question of the recognition of that country al one of time, and as such it was not his intention to give any information on the subject until the recognition should take place ; I have felt it to be my duty (seeing that it is a question which compromises the good faith and honour of this country) to try and induce your lordships to consent to call for such information as shall throw the fullest light upon the whole ease, and shall enable you fully to judge, whether the interests of the country have had that attention shown to them which they so eminently require ; and whether every thing has been done to maintain that honour and fidelity which ought to be held most sacred. The short statement of the case is this :—The Emperor of Brazil, wishing to separate that country from Portugal, chose to accompany that separation with the establishment of a constitu tion in the latter. For this purpose he took the advice of Sir C. Stuart, now Lord Stuart de Rothesay, who was then at the court of Brasil as ambassador from this country; and of that constitution Sir C. Stuart was the bearer to Europe. The adoption of this con stitution was recommended—cautiously and with certain limitations recommended—by Mr. Canning, who at that time filled the office now held by my noble friend (the Earl of Aberdeen), and a &PM interference of Sir C. Stuart took place at Lisbon for the el inducing the acceptance of the constitution. Under these stances it was accepted, and it became the constitution of Pamstpi, which Don Miguel again and again pledged himself to supra 111 the presence of our ambassador—(Hear, hear.) The result of the whole has been, that the constitution has ban entirely overturnedniel Don Miguel hat usurped the throne in the teeth of all his promises, and in direct violation of all his engagements. (Hear.) Nor is this all ; these acts have been made worse by driving large bodies of the inhabitants from their homes—depriving them of their exposing them to the hardships of pestilential climates, ena2. the death or some other personal mean of all those who had ghth their support to a constitution recommended, sanctioned, eaCcurled thither by Great Britain. (Hear, hear.) This, m lathe o le the short state of the case ; and I now ask your winder we have not a right to ask the ministry for a full agdanalion of the circumstances that have led to this conclusion; and whether we ought not to makes rigorous and entire inquiry into all the facts connected with it? (Hear, bear.) These men have suffered in this way for their adherence to that constitution , which was so brought by Sir C. Stuart, which was so received by the government of this country, which was so adopted in Lisbon by the actual interference of his majesty's representative, and which was supported by the continuance of a British army in that country long after the expiration of the occasion for which it had first been sent there. It is admitted in the speech that this state of things has given rise to embarrassments which have become serious; but then are nothing to the embarrassments which arise out of our i peculiar relations in this instance. Do your lordships think that we can ever again stand in the same situation with Portugal that we have heretofore done ? (hear, hear, bear.) I know not - whether the emerge that we adopted in the first instates ealati;e to the Constitution be right or wrong; but this I know, that what we then did ought Dot to have been broken through. To what party in Portugal are we hereafter to look 1 Is it to the party of Don Miguel, whom you have offended in the most active degree, or to the other party, whose confidence you have abused and whom you have left to suffer every evil and hardship ? It is evident to me, that by this conduct we have thrown Portugal into the arms of some foreign power, and this observation has been already made in the thorns—l forget whether by the noble duke (the Duke of Wellington) ; at all events, we have thrown 'that country away, and broken the connection which has so long existed between the two kingdoms. Our commercial relations cer tainly may continue, but those more intimate relations—that mutual friendship, are dissolved for ever.—(Hear, bear.) But, if this ques tion aims the interests of the country, still more gravely does it affect its honour • and on this subject I must confess that I feel more than usu ally sensitive • for in looking back to history I do not think that it appears ;hat fidelity, or good faith to fo reign kingdoms, has been the distinguishing virtue of this coun try—ner that it is that portion of our annals to which we can look back with the greatest satisfaction. On this head the whole course of our history presents a series of abandonments ; witness the abandonment of the French protestant. by Charles I.—the abandon ment of Holland by Charles ll.—the abandonment of the great alliance of Europe by the treaty of Utrecht the abandonment of the emperor, when Alsace and Lorraine were wrested from him —and the abandonment of Prussia in the peace of 1763. All these were circumstances which should make us anxious to preserve our good faith now, without the possibility of con travention. (Hear, hear.) I know that it may be said, that what I am saying Lads to an adoption of that meddling policy which my noble friend (Earl of Aberdeen) has always con demned. But he must be well aware that such a course cannot be strictly adopted with respect to a country that has relations, conoections, and colonies, in all parts of the globe. England is the first commercial and manufacturing country in the world; and my noble friend does not need to be told that non-inter ference is a policy which, under these circumstances, we are unable to pursue. For myself lam the last man to make any obeervationi on the part which has been taken in public affairs by so humble an individual as myself; nor should I do so now, but that it is necessary for the purpose of strengthening my present argu ment. We well know, that since the epticitnion of the great war with Frame, dis position has appeared among many nations of Europe to get rid of the abuses under which they had heretofore laboured, and to obtain a share in the administration of •their own affairs. This disposition sufficiently showed itself in the revolutions of Spain, Portugal, and Naples, al lot which were crushed by the interference of foreign powers. At that time there were individuals who felt strongly for the situation of those countries; and who by speeches, meetings, and subscriptions—and even by the levying of troops and ships, did their best towards assisting the exertions that were making Of this conduct I disapproved, for I looked upon it is compromising the honourof this eountry,basides giving notions( whidt I would not be fulfilled) to other nations that they would be misted by England under similar circumstances. On that acesunt I separated myself nom those whose integrity I highly honoured, and whose sentiments I strongly appreciated, because I thought that such conduct wee dangerous. How, then, we. Ito feel when I found that the government itself was acting in this very way—(hear, hear, bear.) You must not talk to me of technicalities and•sub. deice, and distinctions, for we well know, that men ace ohs triimpressions alone; and I bold that sufficient has been by the government of this country to make men of other kingdoms believe that they would support a constitution. At all events, I think that we moo far compromised, as to impose upon your lordships the duty et demanding from government an explanation of the whole MISS that has been taken--of the whole line that has been purrell—and et the whole measures that have bees = OO4 It it Inn, this pipers ea this subject have already bees at the table at this bean, In emesseenee of the same having been laid on the table of the ether se of liament, punwant to the motion of an henewnehle end leerssi Maid of mime there. That motion was bath spitille and pascal, ea an unesesisading with the minister that every sot reladag to te, end an ezietleik u laterrots, els ra mttee= How ter that hew (filled I shall leave for your lordships' but I do think that a more partial or a mere unmtislimasey minds* of a series of cleats eras never pethemed pdthatam The in pert of these lepers relates to the Ishtidag othe et the semellthellth !eV* MI" Stuart—the Mond to the preerthele et Vlems--thit to the re-_, turn of Des 1111 to Parasol; adamants two Woe beano( the binged. of &rhesus& and she Mae hod width to the i ms themes to be aththled to the queen; to • shish tree IMMO the correspondence betwen the noble dpke and the mat/ (Bear.) With respect to the thee ores of the CeDitlaatioa, it aware to mm I ..,,, „ , Ip --, _,„, .... . 7 , ,- Alt A, 0) )\ ' (° ' •-, ' .. - z• ; 'Ph i , •\\- IT v z i0 ,.. , X°2211216 Ito/.2 . w i• I 0 zz is 11 ED , 1 - - FRIDAY EVENING, FEB. 19, 1830. IlittuE 7D. • been omitted, and that still more remains to be explained; it is particularly otitervable that the second letter of Mr. Canning is very different from the first in tone, and the same remark may be applied to the two first letters of Sir W. A'Court ; but at least they do establish the mitt fact—that the constitution was recommended by the British government—it la evident that we have in part been the cause of the calamities produced, and I, therefore, cannot but wish that we were dear of ail !Weir states for these porticoes, particularly as they may bias individuals in the discharge of their duty in these mates, or at least throw them open to suspicion. Let others, my lords, if they wish it, undertake such connections ; but those who are in the service of Great Britain—let them be content with the honours which the King and the Parliament can bestow upon them, and which they always have bestowed with a liberality with which some has revolved a worm deuces**. don. If all this is to end in the secognidest of Portuga l -end a adnister is to be sent there. I bops at least that it pill if) ot be one leaded with orders and insignias, erase Nicely to be embarrassed - fir his conduct by friendship and :shakos with any foreign power; but that be-will go there simply as the representative of the King of Great Britain, and as such discharge the duties of his office. The next portion of ie papers consists of the protocols of Vienna, with which Don Miguel is mixed : with respect to that person it Is not my wish to use any strong or vehement language : there is enough In his conduct on the face of the papers, and from the proceedings • of 1824, to rake it unnecessary for me to indulge in any thing like contumely or invective ; but there may be circumstances attaching to the case of an unprotected female, and with the way in which they have been looked at, not illustrative of the coolness of a statesman, but of the callousness of a man lost to the gentle claims that such a cause should have upon him ; nor do I think that it is worthy of the minister of a great nation, or of a generous and kind bait -.W Sovereign, to have had any part in such transactions, even though they should have originated with those who are the us. tional guardians of that female. Your Lordships are aware of the engagements which Don Miguel entered into at Vienna, though per. haps it may be said that our ambassador did not appear officially in the business ; but at all events there is one circumstance which I want to have explained. The letter from the emperor of Brazil to his Ma. jesty, "implores !shield, not only to enable the regency toenter quickly on their functions, but also to insure that the Constitution may become the Constitution of the country." To insure I 1 can assure your lordships that I do not see how we are to escape from the force of such an engagement ; and yet after alleomises of Don Miguel—after all the hopes he held out of sup portin g the constitu. don, and of granting an amnesty, no sooner di be arrive in Portu. pi than he began a course of conduct which should on the instant have told the ministers that he did not intend to keep one tittle of his promises. Could any one for a moment have doubted then that it was his intention to overthrow the constitution ? And, if so, why submit to such accumulatiop of insults ? Why not have with. drawn the ambassador sooner ? Why have waited quietly till the ner was crowned? No, the right course was to have taken a decided step at once, instead of encouraging him by half-rebukes to go on. With respect to the proceedings which took place at Tensile, I should like to have the correspondence connected with it, and all that relates to the transportation of the Portuguese to and from this country. I say this because the whole of the cir. cumstances connected with that event are looked at by me with much regret ; for even if what was done by this country was in strict accordance with the law of nations, never was there any thing so alien to every generous feeling, so unlike, and so unconnected, from every kind or hospitable treatment. The highest offices in this country are open to every class of society; and therefore it behoved those who were the re. grounds advisers of the Crown to give the government as much of a civil, and as little of a military character as pos sible—as little of that rough and peremptory cast which be longs to the mind ofa mere soldier—characteristics which have never been tolerated, much less perpetrated, in this country. The acts of which I complain are contrary to the laws of nations. In defence of them.? k it willAkootitended that we are not to make our porta she IW6aLIf togieunfries, or of the members of any other cam.. munity who may be engaged in a civil war; but here was a case of seizure upon the high seas, as contrary to the laws of nations as any act can possibly be; and the false papers of the ships, of which much will probably be said, affected the question extremely little. I think, then, I have said enough to satisfy your lordships that this is a case, which entitles the house to call for the most ample and complete information which could possibly be procured ; for it is a case in which the conduct of his Majesty's government has brought upon this country the most unmitigated disgrace, unre lieved by one honourable circumstance or one generous feeling. His lordship concluded by moving for copies of all correspondence between the government of this country and our ambassador in Por. tugal, from tue year 1826 to the period of his return—copies of all communications to or from Sir Frederick Lamb, from the Ist of March, 1828, together with all communications respecting the Queen of Portugal, and generally all communications respecting the affairs of Portugal during the last four years. The Earl of ABERDEEN said, that the noble viscount had the thin insatiable appetite for information he had ever met with. The desaments he had moved for were such, as he contended, ought not at the present time to be produced. It would not be prudent, on the Pert of the government, to do so. At a proper ti Ile, that was • ' visa his majesty's government should deem it advisable to recom. mad the recognition of that country, every paper should be laid beihre their Lordships. (Hear, hear.) tie was anxious not to is ahanderstoud in what he said with respect to Don Miguel. fie dienld therefore be explicit upon the subject. (Hear, hear.) 1111114 that Prince had been guilty of falsehood, of treachery, and of Itetherons practices, no man could pretend to deny. It was equally impossible for any to refrain from reprobating his conduct. Every one, posses. of fair and upright pnncipics, must revolt at such conduct as Don Miguel had adopted. It was. however, un wise to dwell too much on the personal character of princes. in. tier a king be a Nero or a Telemachus, It signified but little to him. lie looked only to the interest of the two countries. With respect to Don Miguel's be ing an usurper, he couly only say, that it was well known the niajonty of the Portuguese were in his favour. Here was a majority of those who were the best able to judge of his _qualifications as their sovereign, and willing to sup _ . pen him. The noble earl then, at some length, went through iha particulars of the Terceira affair, and strongly defended the course adipted on that occasion. He likewise alluded to the &large width had been brought against the government with respect to the Velma of a convoy for the Portuguese refugees ; and next to the Oh& of leave to export arms; each of which circumstances his lordship contended as being proper. In • fact, situated as the go. Samment then were, no other mode of acting could have been aihgaid. His majesty's government had determined so pursue the as 'lies of conduct as regarded their neutrality so long as matters remind in their present state. Viscount WA/ERICH contended it was utterly impossible for the noble lords on that side of the house to argue with the confidence the noble earl had done, as they were not in possession of that in. formation they deeme d necessary. Lie applauded the conduct of the late Mt. Canning throughout this business. The behavour of Don Miguel was such as to draw down upon him the just depreca. Bons of every person. That prince had insulted this country, but it had very properly been treated with the contempt the party offerill it merited. No notice had been taken of it. The noble viscount having dwelt at some length upon this point, next referred to the transaction arTerceira. At this period there was an order of council against the exportation of arms to the coast of Africa.; but the object of that was to prevent the progress of the slave trade, and when the ambassador of the HEIWCTOr of Brazil desired permission to export 'arms to the island of Terceira, he was refused, 'solely because it would be a violation of this order io council. With respect to what had been said of the refusal of a convoy to the Pertvgater refugees. he (Lord Ooderich) did not think that Is maim of government on that occasion was perfectly jnedilable. (nna, hear) His lordship read souse extracts from the between the Marquis of Palladia and the Dabs of rtiling. ton, wherelo the noble duke had stated that there troops sent to the Azores might go as individuals, but not in a body. This, the noble Viscount observed, was 'toy absurd; for I if they went at all, It mattered not in principle whether they went I in 1 body or separate. The noble Viscount denied that Don Mi. ! geel was the -kiwi de facto of Portugal, or if he was, as some alleged, I het meld rases he tensioned king Se /ado of Terceira, which had weer reeeipieed him. He did am believe that the govemment of this asaatr bed authority co potent the Portuguese troop from ' at Whirs. The aelielemil, in conclusion, repeated that the 6 bad=sacit a morn, sod expressed his at ea I I 'l l lett. his duty la thus expressing big I Lead HAIINCLI FFEuese impraseorved the media et Goserament it pa r Wiegman illhillat the Portug_km so at Tateba. I Ilsil Berl ef CARNAHVON W ail blow weal SOW std a . . . . . . Portugal weld think of the proceedings of this country towards Portugal. Government had given their support to the young Queer* of Portugal. That support, if continued, would induce other nations to do the same. The nob?c earl rdtered into a de tail of 'ehr. condom of l)oo Miguel dltrir t * the life of, his father. whet, he had been ern to the Brazils and i n took a brief slew of his ityNcrisy, treachery, and perjury since that period ohlersing that any other nation in Europe would think that they would hare acted a ridiculous and contemptible part if they should have sent an array to Portugal. for the same purpose that we had sent one in 1226, namely, to act a neutral part, or, in other words, to protect Don it reply to what fell from the noble earl (Aberdeen). .6 that we idmold g* to war with Portugal if we at tempted to dethrone Do !gigue'," he (Lord Camaro:at) begged to say that, even the breath of a war would have effected that object. All the militsry forces in Portugal were in favour of their legitimate sovereign, and the cof f ers of Don Miguel were empty. The noble earl, in conclusion. observed that he would support the motion of the nettle vircount. The Alai qui. of LANSDOWNE thought 'hit the hous& should be put in possession of all the ir.ftoni iti In passible respecting our relations with Portogal of lase. It wt ii'd b.: hum Bating to the sovereign, and painful to the feeling/. of the people of this country, to acknowledge as t.wercign of Portugsl that despot, whose cha racter, bad as it was toward& his own subject.. this country could not take into consideration in recognisieg hitu. The noble marquis would vote for the notion of his noble Iriebd, in expectation that it would Ica;( 'o some discovery that might spare its fro,: the painfl necessity of acknowledging suet a person as sover;ign. The Duke of %VIifiLINOTON denied, as alleged •Ity the Nalthi Mast,. that this conntry had any thing to do with the I'ertuguese Ctwistitution, that is, if Mr. Canning was to be believed ; Sir Chirke Stuart had acted on that occasion as agent of the Emptr•ar of the Brasile, • not as an ambatsador from this country. Mr. Canning took all the pains he .possibly could to convince Pro and the °thee Xuropean powers, that the British goverty . h to do with the granting of that eonstituti.,:t. i had lift equally as little to do with the sending of t• . Don Miguel had been appointee sidpmt by his berhet, and be was Induced to come to this country previous Poo and Ai rwical to his ring to Portugal, with Intent to mast himself acquainted with the cons ti; tt don of this country, and reconcile him to the Portugue , charter, which he certainly then promised to support. His Grace denied that the sending of troops to Portugal in 1826. implied n . i intention to support the charter. (Hear, hear.) The object of sending the troops was to protect that kingdom from foreign op pression. The noble duke euloalsed the conduct of our Am. baniatior on that occasion, observing that no person could have meted with more rigour and candour than he had. The noble duke did not mean to say that our treaty with Portugal would not justify to to interfere with her to any extent, but for many years we had ceased to concern ourselves with her internal affairs. Appli cation had been made by Don John in 1820, fir assistance to quell a civil war which his son had stirred up in flit Brazils, and it was refused on the grounds that we should not interfere with her internal sales. He could not permit troops to go from this country to ill: Azores to exercise hostilities against the king de facto without corn. witting a breach of neutrality ; but had no objection to their going there from France or any other country. He did not mean to say it would be a breach of the law of nations to permit them to land there. Before they had left this country they had notice that they should not gn to Terceira, so that if they had experienced any inconvenience after that, they might blame themselves. The noble duke, In con clusion, trusted that the house would not see the necessity of acceding to the motion, or of calling for any papers on the subject, until his majesty should command ministers to lay them before the ho use . Viscount 111 I.: I,BOURNE replied, and the house divided, when there appeared For the motion 3l 1 Against it 52 Majority 3l The House adjourned at a Quarter past Eleven. HOUSE OF COMMONS-THURSDAY. Mr. BROUGHAM took the oaths and his seat. Mr. DANVERS, from the East India House, presented a resolu tion from the Court of Directors relative to allowances and saiarie,. Mr. BYNG brought up a bill for Improving and Lighting tie New Town of Mile-end, Stepney, and its neighbourhood.—Read a first time. This was the last day but one for the reception of private bills, and more than an hour of the time of the house was occupied in receiving them. Mr. HOBHOUSE presented apedtion respecting the erection of a new bridge across the Thames, from Lambeth Palace to the Horse Ferry. Mr. HART DAVIS moved far mama of the quantities of corn, meal, and flour, imported into any port in this country from Ireland, particularly during the last year. Mr. HUME presented a petition from a person named Yates, who bad been in confinement for five years for debt, complaining of the Insolvent Debtors' Act. - Mr. C. DUNDAS presented a petition from 1900 persona, re. siding in a place in Berkshire, complaining of the distress of the Mr:PALMER shortly supported the prayer of the petition. Mr. Alderman WOOD moved for retun.s of the quantities of molasses imported into this country from any foreign colony during the last year. Mr. DUODALE presented a petition from Westall, in War. wickshire, complaining of distress. Mr. JI:PHIION moved for returns of the expenditure of the Dublin Foundling Hospital, the number of itt inmatcs, and various other matters connected with that Institution. Mr. BIRCH moved for returns of the quantity of corn imported into this country from Ireland, from the 10th of October, 1827, to the 101 h of the same month, 1829. Mr. 'BERNAL gave notice of a motion, relative to the un. settled claims between this country and France, under the conven tion of 1829. • Sir R. KNATCH BULL presented a petition from Romney laralt, complaining of general disarm—Ordered to be printed. He then presented several similar petitions, all also praying for the !eduction of the malt and beer duties: they were from Berrytwany, West Wickham ; Sittingbourne, Sandhurst, Bosslngtutin, Bidding. field, &c in Kent.- -Severally ordered to be printed. Mr. WODEHOUSE abo presented a petition to the same effect from the city of Norwich. .. Lord ALTHORP and Mr. W. Smith supported the prayer of the petition. Dlr. O'CONNE LL presented a petition from St. Mark's, Dublin, against the Sub-letting Act. The complaints, if well founded, might be remedied in the bill before the •house to amend the Sul.- letting Act. The act was prejudicial to the poor, but he denied that the poor of Ireland were demoralised ; on the contrary, they were the most moral poor in Europe. Mr. O'CONNELL then prtiented a petition from St. Peter's. Dublin, praying that in parishes where there was neither pretestarit church nor protestant inhabitant, there might not be tithes or church. rates continued.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. O'CONNELL moved for returns of the quantities of rum and tobacco contracted for by the government of lreland.—Ordered. Mr. GRANT gave notice that on an early day he would bring before the house a motion relative to the present disabilities which affected the Jews—(hear, hear.) Sir J. WROTTESLEY presented a petition from Mates, Staf fordshire, against the practice of paying labourers' wages in goods. The honourable gentleman supported the prayer of the petition, and thought the practice in question originated in the depitciation et the currency. mr. BERRIES denied that this was the fact. I'he practice was a very old one, and had no connection whatever with the currency of the eountiy. Mr. GORDON considered that it had. The practice of paying in 4 ftuck" was grown so into use now, that landtotds were glad to r - ceive Suit rents in pork, beef, Ice. Mr. LITTLETIPN denied that the question of the currency bad ythl he an et all to do with the paying of stars in goods. Mg. kmwiT, Mr. Bertsow. and Sr R. IV! tsox, all spike aga/net ayetem of_paying labourers their wages in goods. ADMIXISIWATION Or TIM LAW. • Dlr. PE EL rose to bring forward his motion respecting the pro sW improvement, In the adininfstration of the law. The right hole gentleman desired that so much of ill majesty's speech as el. ludo! to the above subject should he read. The Clerk of the house having read be part alluded to, Mr. Secretary PEEL their sai d that he deemed it the meet conve nient course to take this early oppo-tunity allaying before the house in gent ral an outline of the measures that his majesty's government have in contemplation upon the subject of an improved omen' of adminis tering the law. Thisquestien, although not perhaps the most interest lag for discussion, was highly so when it was considered that in it was involved the petnument safety of the state. The house weaskl reed lest that upon the motion of an bonoutalsk and learned inentber ( Mr. Brougham) two oommissione were appointed; ewe en enquire into the practice and _proceedings of the court* of law, Ole ether to i l new l ascertain the mate oft be law of real proper t y. Th e h am a report upon one of those subjects, a report that ream:tell; WO. I• t credit upon the eommiedourre Thie relived 10 teehni. i• ad ntatterareleting to the 141%444/mien the law; a evert woul4 be shortly published, which w . Aiwa. He underrtood that in he that plan it a . mm of Cannon Law ama Courts ary eat • piewter; to admit the Indianian of welts. isms* him ado t . to novel panne to seam te an arbitration in then of aerenern. Foutthly, te simplify the boom and flaw of ithoihrpt• The • contusion° upon teal par:ilia/ undo sae report, and be hoped that they would soon atietther. la nuking abendens re. ;meeting the law, nothing patent andel be dem. The inifeet anth i be viewed is the when, aai he meta therefore deelieneenthelitg upon the at** thinitely, until the mite of the spew of lia 4 • •.. .