Star. — London, England, 1827-06-30 00:00:00

a found this. of Course , all tho u g ht of pr-ceed ; ; t i n he seek for inquiry by impeachment was at an en d , ° ' fact which would justify such a course bein g A ll (nether without foundation—(Hear, hear, hear).— ; s cold not go so far as t h e Noble Lord, and sa y , because one charge had been proved to be ground wherefore all others of a d trent nature, and loggia forward by quite an other person, an o ffi cer of b , e • b no b —were all in t he same manner equally rents &ess , • nor could he join in the imputations which ' the N o ble Lord had seemed to cast upon that Honour:l s pi v and Gallant Officer. There was, however, one, r oost which,on every occasion similar to this, he ld feel bound to ado p t. As often as he saw a g ross : I , l a :h e inous charge advanced against any individual, in the f or m either of a public or a private accusation— *tether that individual were high or low, or brilliant or obscure, or great and powerful, or weak and un sriended—he should be equally ready to do him the jos w t i c e (which would only be bare justice, when such a c h arg e as found to have signally failed) of lend ing him the fullest advantage arising from the stronpt presumption in his favour, quoad all the other charges which might be adva .ced against him, until they were fully inquired into and determined —a presumption which would be much the stronger, in proportion as the failure of the first charge had been the mote signal and decisive. He thought that was but a fair maxim of justice; and at it was that which he should desire to have applied to himself, so he was de sirous of applying it to others. Further than that, however, he could not go, except in joining with those who declared they thought it hard that such charges Mold bang over the head of a Gallant Officer for so long a period of time—(Hear, hear.) He trusted, how ewer, that some of those who entertained that feeling aith himself, would bring forward the remaining charges against Lord Charles Somerset, to enable that Noble Lord to prove them—as the first charge had already been proved, and as he hid little doubt all the test made by the same individuil could be shewn to be —utterly groundless. While, however, he said this, he wished it to be understood that he did not refer to Sir K. Donkin, on whom he was not casting any im putation; nor could he agree with the Noble Lard in calling that Gallant Officer a calumniator, or in ac quitting Lord Charles Somerset of all the chargei which Sir IL Donkin had preferred against him, because that which bad been preferred by another individual wai proved to have been groundless. At the same time, he thought that, in justice totord Charles Somerset, as well as to Sir R. Donkin, two more years ought not to be suffered to elapse before the charges advanced by that Gallant Officer against that Noble Lord were di► posed off. The task of bringing forward these charges ought to be undertaken by some Hon. Member who 'cold really present them to the consideration of the' House; and it was a ta.k which he (Mr: Brougham) wuld willingly undertake, but that he had not sufficient time to ensure its proper performance. He trusted. therefore, that some other Member would undertake it; for, by a Member it must be done, since Sir R. Donkin himself had not the means of standing up in that House, and impeaching the Noble Lord ; but only possessed the power of writing a pamphlet, the merits of which could be discussed in no other way than by an appeal to the Court of King's Bench-4 course which, especially in such a case, was a most combrons method of proceeding, and which,- in its result, would neither satisfy one party nor the other.— It appeared that Sir Malone Donkiu was quite ready to bring forward his accusa•ion, and that Lord Charles Somelso was equally ready to meet it. The Matter ought, therefore, to be brought to issue, in the only way that would be satisfactory to these parties and to the public. He recommended that course to be pursued, and that was all he could at present undertake to do He though it necessary here to observe, that he had not read Sir Rufane Donkin's pamphlet, because, as he had not the opportunity of himself instituting an inquiry into the charges it contained, he felt be ought not to lead anything on one side or the other that might tepid to prejudice his mind upon the subject. Before he sat down, he wished to mention one circumstance connected with the Government of the Cape of Good Hope, and especially relating to the administration of justice there. There was one circumstance which had caused no little doubt and alarm among the English Bar. paces upon the subject of the judicial appointments at the Cape —he meant that of sending out, as Judges, those who were not English lawyers. If such a practice had been adopted, he should regret it exceedingly ; he should be the first to protest against it ()never; account. He was averse to the practice, be cause he did not think it was a safe practice even in a Colony where the Civil Law bad existed; for even there be should prefer seeing men who were well versed in and habituated to the practice of the English Trial by Jury, and the rules of the English Laws of Evidence. He should be extremely sorry to see any other practice prevail! and as to going to Scotland for a knowledge of the Civil Law, he was convinced that no such know ledge was to be obtained from the Bar of Scotland, where in fact it did not exist at all—(A laugh)—a cir cumstance which, he contended, was sufficiently proved by the late trial at Lancaster; and he himself could as sett, that the examinations of young men in Scotland upon the subject of their knowledge of the Civil Law, afforded no hope that they should be acquainted with it, for it was the custom for them to go to the examiner, on the night before the day appointed for the examination, and to inquire from him upon se hat page of the Civil Law they were to be examined. He there. nre said, ' Send out no civil lawyers; but send out men imbued with the principles of the English law—with these of the Trial by Jury, and with those of the Eng lish law of evidence; and if they did send out such meo, he was convinced they would have better Judges than if they employed civil lawyers for that purpose.— lf, however, they would not take his advice—if they would have civil lawyers—then lie recommended them to go to Doctors'Commons, and nut to send to Scotland for civilians; but the other course seemed to him by far the more advantageous. Having felt it his duty to notice the circumstance to which he had alluded, be Ctnuld trouble the House no further upon the matter. Mr. WILMOT-HORTON wished, in the first in- Stance, to say a single word in reply to the concluding remarks of the Honourable and Learned Member for "'nchelsea, with repect to the appointment of an indi vidual selected from the Scotch Bar to fill a judicial situation in the Colonies. His Majesty's Government felt all the advantage which might be expected to arise from the appointment of persons embued with the prin ciples of English law to judicial situations in the Colo hut it was also to be borne in mind, that an sequaiittance with the principles of the Dutch and civ i" was occasionally necessary. Two Judges had been * bent out, of wlsose qualifications he was sure the Loomed • Gentleman could not but approve; but it was also thought necessary to semiotic a lawyer who, in addition to the more ordinary qualifications .Of his profession, possessed a knowledge of the civil law. In pursuance of this object (the more necessary to be accomplished, as in some of our Colonies the principles, not only of the English, but of the Dutch law, were to be re garded) a Gentleman understood to be well versed in the — civil lair was sent out, and considerable advantage wa• expected to result from his presence in the colon); where that kind of information would be particularly useful. Having thus replied to the observations of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, he should address himself to the topic more immediately under the consisleration of the House. Hon. Members were aware, that the case of Lord Charles Somerset had been now more than two years before the House, during which time papers had been laid on the table—Petitions presented—Reports made, and various proceedings resorted to in relation to it. The House was also aware, that the Hon. Member for Arundel, had given notice of a specific motion on the subject,which he subsequently withdrew, for reasons best known to himself, but with which he (Mr. W. Horton) was unacquainted. The Hon. Member had now abandoned his intention, but it would be recollected, that previous to his having done so, he (Mr.W. Horton) on two several occasions. requested, indeed, called on that Hon. Member, to apprise him of the nature of the charges intended to be advanced, with a view to enable Lord C. Somerset to meet them—(Hear.) However, the Hoo. Member had not thought proper to afford him the information he had sought—the Session-,was now approaching its close—the Hon. Member had abandoned his promised motion—and nothing had been done— (Hear.) He appealed to the good feeling of the House to say, whether, in point of plain and substantive jus tice, it was fitting or right to allow charges thus made and thus abandoned, to hang over the head of Lord Charles Somerset. What had been the nature of these charges? The House would recollect, that it was not a mese question of discretion or indiscretion of temper ing the Dutch law, which was the law of the Colony, with the more salutary principles of English law ; but in every one of these charges Lord Charles Somerset was accused of corruption, tyranny, and bad intention, either of a personal or political nature; but as they had not been followed up, much less substantiated, he thought Lord C. Somerset must, in justice, be acquitted by the House. The Noble Lord who spoke first in the debate, had announced to the House the circumstance of his Noble Relative's re,ignation, and appeared to de sire some espression of his (Mr. W. Horton's) sentiments on the occasion. In answer to the Noble Lord's inquiry, he should only say, that the Noble Lord, who was Secre tary of State for the Colonial Department, saw no reason which could induce him to consider any of the charges brought for ward against Lord C. S-inerset,which wentin the slightest degree to inculpate his character as a man of honour and a Gentleman, as proved. Thus much he thought himself entitled to express, as the opinion of his Majesty's Government on the subject. It was not necessary, neither was it his intention, to go further into the details connected with the case on the present oc casion. Under all ;be circumstances, he put it to Hon. Members to say, whether they did not consider that, when charges had been made but not substantiated, when opportunities were presented for following them up and neglected, it would be equally unfair and un just to Lord C. Somerset to allow accusations of such a nature to hangover his head is an unsettled state, and for an indefinite period—(Hear, hear, hear). The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by declaring bis opi nion, that if such were to be the case, an act of glaring and substantive injustice would be done to the Noble Individual most deeply interested in the subject then before the House. _ Mr. HUME vindicated the parties wile had accused Lord Charles Somerset against the charge of conspi racy brought forward by the Noble Lord who opened the debate. No individuals could be more completely detached from each other, or have acted with less con cert, than those by whom the accusations were preferred. Each bad come forward with his own separate griev ance, and if the complaints were numerous, it was because all classes joined in complaining. He regretted that the Honourable Member for Arundel bad not brought forward his promised motion. He did not con sider the _Noble Lord to %tend acquitted of the charges which had been preferred, because it happened that they were not pressed. He was quite ready to give the Noble Lord who spoke early in the debate, credit for fair and manly intentions; and had no doubt that that Noble individual would concur with him in thinking that an inquiry ought to be instituted early in the nest Session of Parliament ; an inquiry which he (Mr. H.) wished to be extended not only to the administration of our colonies abroad, but to the Colonial Department at home. He had handed to the Right Hon. Secretary opposite, a list of nine reports which he wished to be laid upon the table, in order that if any Hon. Member should find time to take up the subject, the inquiry might be facilitated by the information which tl-ey might be expected to communicate. For hiMself, he had not time to enter into the investigation, which, otherwise, he should be happy to undertake. He trusted the Right Hon. Gentleman would feel no difficulty in complying with Nis request. A biome, whose name could not be learnt, stated, that he had examined the documents connected with this case, and was fully sathfied that the charges brought against Lord C. Somerset were without foundation. Mr. F. PALMER had seen a letter addressed to Sir Rufane Donkin, and signed by Mr. Wilmot-Horton, in which it was stated, that Earl Bathurst did not wish the gallant General to proceed with his charges against Lord Charles Somerset, on the ground of later informa tion being ell:l:Tied from the Cape. Sir R. Donkin had been two ye.rs Governor at the Cape, and for his con duct during that period, had received the thanks of the Noble Lord late at the head of the Colonial Department. He had also been addressed by the Local Authorities, and their address had, at least, the merit of seniority to recommend it, for it was conveyed to him, not when he was in power, but at a time when he was out of place. The Gallant General had introduced various improvements into the Administration of the affairs of the clony, the expenditure of which he reduced very considerably. Within two years of Sir Rufane Donkin's departure, that expenditure was greatly increased. The Hon. Gentleman proceeded to say, that because one charge had tinned out to be totally false, there was no reason why Lord Charles Somerset should be acquitted f the others. He comp:ained that he h 441 seen only one report on the s..bpct of the Cape, notwithstanding he understood that there should have been nine. Tire Report which he had seen contained heavy charges against L-rri Charles. Was he, therefore, to suppose that the other eight would acquit him? Ot this he was sati•fie..l. that the people of England " ould never acquit [ the Noble Lord, until he was proved to be innocent by the result of a satisfactory inquiry. He regretted as areeh as any one that the Hon. Member fdr Arundel had Rat brought forward his promised motion ;perhaps difficidtko bad been thrown in his way ; for so long as there was any prospect of Lord C. Somerset's return to the Cape, people would not come forward with the information necessary to convict him. He concurred with the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, in calling on the Right Hon. Secretary opposite to produce the remainder of the Re- ports on this subject, and thus enable Hon. Members 1 1 to become thoroughly acquainted with its details pre- ' , •ious to the next Session of Parliament. Mr. W. HORTON observed, in answer to what had fallen from the Hon. Member for Reading, that the case as between Sir Rufane Donkin and the Colonial Office, stood thus ;—Sir R. Donkin made certain represepta tions to his Noble Friend late at the head of the Colonial department, with respect to the conduct of Lord C. So merset, and stated that he could make disclosures which would cover him with ruin; in reply to which a com munication was sent to the gallant Gen. calling upon him to bring forward charges against the Governor of the Cape of Good Hope. To this Sirß. Donkin answered, that he had never expressed any intention to bring any charges against Lord C. Somerset. The Colonial Office met this by saying, u your allegations, in effect, amount to charges against him; but the gallant Officer per— severed in declaring he intended to adduce no charges whatever. Under these circumstances, and as Sir R. Donkin had not not actually made use of the word " charge," the Colonial Department, finding him dis posed, and apparently anxious to retract his apparent pledge as an Accuser, did (whether wisely or not, was another olnestion), permit him to do so; and he was, consequently told, in a communication to which, no doubt the Honourable Member for Reading referred.' that, as he had distinctly stated that he did not mean to bring forward charges, he would not be any longer' called upon to do so ;'hut the Colonial Department bad taken care to acquire information upon all the points' referred to by the gallant General—(Hear, hear). —On many, perhaps most of the points referred to by Sir Rufane Makin, Hon. Members would find the fullest and most satisfactory information in the papers which had been laid on the table of the House. To these papers he begged to direct their attention. Having, as he trusted, satisfactorily explained the statement of lb* Hon. Member for Reading, he should now allude to a request made by the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, with respect to the production of Reports: He must first, apprize the Hon. Member of the fact, that on some of 'I the subjects relative to which he required information, there were no reports; and with respect to others, he did not think his Majesty's Government called on to lay all sorts of reports and proceedings on the table of the House; at least they could only be required to do so after due notice, and in a regular manner. All he should add was, that, in the present instance, he saw no thing to induce him to depart from the usage established in cases of this nature, and accordingly was not pre pared to lay all reports on the table, without grounds being laid for their production ; but he should be ready at all times to justify any part of the conduct of the Co. lonial Department upon the subject, whenever it might be called in question. Mr. BARING hoped the House would permit Min to say a few words on the extraordinary position in which this subject was left, and by which equal injustice was done to the Noble Lord and the inhabitants of the co• long over which he had presided. Under all the cir cumstances, he could not but censure the Hon. Member for Arundel for retracting charges of so grave a nature, without assigning any adequate reason. He had looked very little into the case, but felt it impossible not to consider Lord C. Somerset as acquitted from all the foul aspersions of personal corruption which had been cast on him. Notice having been given of a specific mo tion for the purpose of establishing the accusations—A Petitions hom different quarters, and containing the se verest allegations, having been presented—and no man now appearing to support the charges—he repeated, he must consider the Noble Lord as fully entitled to an ac quittal. The persons whose Petition he had presented to the House, on a former occasion, did not bring forward any personal charge against Lord Charles, they merely complained of misgovernment--a point which, after all, was matter of opinion. For his own part, be believed that the Noble Lord's Government had been unfortunate for ti.e colony, and that its termination was desirable. Lord F. L. GOWER, without entering deeply into the subject, considered that them were some of the accusations brought against the Noble Lord, on which every Gentleman was competent to decide; and ex• pressed his belief that all the charges, imputing personal corruption or dishonour to that Nobleman were totally groundless.—The Papers ordered to lie on the table. MISSAiIi nom Tilt 4011168. A Message from the Lords acquainted the Hogue that their Lordships had passed the Manor Courts (Ireland) Bill, the Ca nadian Clergy, and other Bills (for which see LorAs' Report), without any amendment; and a number of other Bills (among which were the Corn Averages Bill and the Warehoused COlll Bill), with amendments ; and requesting that the House would supply their Lordships w ith a copy of the evidence as which the House bad paned a Bill for more effectually preserving the peace and securing the freedom of elections in the city of Coventry. To which The SPEAKER replied, that the House would send an answer by Messengers of its own. SINICOSIS IN SCOTLAND. Mr. JOHN WOOD said, that in consequence of the death of a Noble Dake (Gordon) a sinecure place of considerable value had lately become vacant in Scotland. He need hardly remind the House, that a Commission had been appointed in the year 1817, to examine into and to report respecting Sinecure Places—and that that Commission bad recommended that certain places should be abolished, and others regulated after the demise of the then ka.u.AlPClltio rle mussel', untrerws au, assc,e, use asignc re = Gentleman opposite, whether it was, or was not, the intention of his Majesty's Ministers to take that opportunity to abolish the place in question? Mr. CANNING said, it was exactly as stated by the HoDourable Member, that the Cenunission of 1517, and the report respecting the course which they thought ought to be pursued upon the occur rence of vacancies in certain places—that some sitsuld be abo lished, and others continued. And, in reply to the Hon. Gentle man's question, begged leave to state, that it was the Intention of his Majesty's Government to follow the recommendation of the Commission respecting the regulation of the office alluded to by the Hon. Member. SISSIDIONAIS SZPSZSENTATION. Mr. LA W LEY presented a Petition from 3,000 inhabitants of the town of Birmingham, praying to be admitted to the blective Franchise. - Mr. LITTLETON supported the Petition, and stated that a very , great number of people in the neighbourhood of Birmingham were employed in the same trades and manufactures as the people of that town, and that it was highly proper that they should have nepresentnives for their interests. Mr. TENNYSON observed, that this Petition was a proof that the people of Birmingham were not indifferent about the elective franChne. Besides that the Petition was signed by the greater part of the respectable people of the town, it was to be observed that. it was signed by thirty out of the thirty.nine composing the Chain bet of Commerce. He wished that the Petition should be read at length—(Cries of No, no). lie gave notice, that early neat Session he would move lot the renewal of the Bill for transferring the Batt. Bedard franchise to the Town of Birmingham. WATER 1d01101 . 01.t. Sir R. w I ISON presented a Petition front upwards of 5,000 Inhabitants of the l'srisit of St. George, Southwark, against the water Coaipinieernabopoly. TS* littitioi iii IsiJ on de faMs. —Tb. same Hon. Monza then save notice, that in 'valid omeai Softies submit to the House A Motion on the subject: tauten ?MILL Mr. BERNAL presented a Petition from certain Pitherthen the County of Kent, praying to be allowed to employ a greater member of men in their fishing-boats. The number allotted them by law wee a great deal too limited to enable theth to carry on thew beefiness to tie best advantage. It was impolitic to discourage the employment of men in t►is service, as it was a nursery of maiden for the Navy. The French fishing•boats were allowed Ruin twenty to shiny men. Mr. HERRIRS said, that the great danger wis, that If MO may men were allowed, they would be employed in umeggiing. lie believed that the erect of the Act of the Bth of the preheat King, which consolidated the other Acts on the subject, had been somettitat misunderstood. The Treasury was always ready to gnat a relazazioo ia ease of pressore.-1 *DA. :AA alt. UM oithi table. Sir C. BURRELL presentedaPCtititio Ikons certain land °warn and wool growets in the neighbourhood of West Grintetead, pray. ins for a protecting ditty on foreign StootimpotteJ, and wished dust an account would be e'en of thi quauddes of each of the several sorts of wool which were exported. Mr. H ERR IRS expressed a doubt Mader it *euld be possible to present an account of the several aorta, and the Several trundate of each sort..—The Petition was lald so the table. reverts. • Mr. MINNA IRD pee nodes that he weak!, nett Session, bring befere the Hoene a motion, concerning the laws and regulations re. Wye to Patents, Led the ripsaw &needle( the prdeuring them. dowagers* wo► staid,. Mr. LITTLETON. snored. that then be NH on the Table an Amount of the Compeeltiss paid is lieu of Stamps, for their casb Dotes, post bills, Ste. by the Bask of England, for the year ending 1827, with a statement whether the Branch Banks of the Bank of England drew without any stamps. The Bank of England. he understood. enjoyed in this respett a great advantage over the other Mr. BERRIES said, that thee had been no intention to give the Bank of England any undoes advantage in this respect, and the Bank did not desire it. Mr. MASERLY observed, that the Bank of England bad no occasion to draw this species of mum They ought to draw on stamps as well as the Co-partnership Banks, and then them Would be no undue advantage on either side. Mr. NURSE said, that the Bank of England certainly desired no superior advantage in this respect.—The motion was agreed to. imam noncom*. Mr. Aidertnan THOf/PSVNpresent ---- ed a Petition from Messrs. Fish and C.ollhav, respectable tobacconists, complaining of an op pressive prosecution instituted against theta by the Solicitor of the Board of Excise, for a trifling irregularity in the transfer of a pound of cigars, for which the duty had been paid. The Petitioners wale highly respectable tradesmen, who paid sot less than 50,00ut. a year to the Revenue, Mr. HERMES regretted that he was unable to afford any satisfactory explanation on this subject, as the Ham Alderman bad given him no intimation of his intention to presto, this Petition. Mr. HUME wished to know why the Report of the Cuourdo. elopers of Revenue Inquiry had not bees laid on the Table? Mr. WALLACE said, that they bad inquired late the state of the Revenue in Scotland and Ireland, hot that they had not coal. pitted their inquiries in England. Mr. Alderman WOOD bate testimony to the great respeatabilirt and honourable character of the Petitioner.. The Petideo was ordered to lie on the Table, and to be vilely& OAIVOIX DIAIICIPASJON. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL preseut•l a Petition, Signed by Two Hundred and Thirty-nine Gentlemen of the Bar, expreeeing their regret that any portion of their fellow-subjects should labia., ruder civil &Behind's, and praying the House to devise some mum. sure for the removal of all disabilities (tom his Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects. He believed a Petition bad never been presented to that House by a body comprehending a greater degree of learning and intelligence. The Petitioners were an attaebed to the Cher& of England, and would never concur in any measure the crest of which might be to affect the ascendancy of that Church. For hie own part, be was anxious to diminieh the number of the &netlike of the Church of England, by diminishing the number of those who were excluded from a participation In equal civil rights. M. H. GRATTAN supported the prayer of the lietitionere. OLIMICAL DOM Mr. DUMB said he bad, In the coarse of the discharge of MS public duty. presented some Peddens of a dngular character, hot the Petition be held in his band was the most tatteerdinaty he presented. It was from an bollvidnal named Peter Watson, bad been embed seventy two days la Durham Gad, In mesh woos as salt instituted by the *tear of Cheater-le-wrete, foe the oms.paysnent of Easter Afferinp, taws:din to 411wourd Of temente halfpenny, the law expldis me the Proceedinp having Migrated die suss of one thousand pounds. The Petitioner dwelt upemeao• truisms madams to which he bad been subjected by the proteedibte la the Ecclesiastical Court, sod ptayrd the Home to take the earliest opponwaity of making an alteratioss in the laws relating to these caleringt. In ebb prayer the Hew. Member cordially concerted.— ' The Petition was then laid upon the Table,and ordered to be pnotesia /Si SST IDOORIAT. Mr. HUMBresented a Petition from Robert G .urlay, now a prisoner in Coldbath.fields, praying that a Committee or Commis sion might be appointed to enquire into his ease. The unfortunate man bad been sent to ptisoo, and detained thete he ►new not osi whose suggestion, or on what amount. Mr. BROUGHAM said his Hon. 'friend stetted to have some doubt as to the person at whose suggestion this poor man was sent to plasm He would tell him t►at it was at the suggestion of Go. 'eminent. Mr. HUME.—* I believe it was by order of the Polive. a Mr. BROUGHAM.—WeII, suppose it to be the poe lice, his Hon. Friend's doubts were answered. It was as utterly and entirely false as any thing that ever was uttered or appeared in print, that he Mr. B. was instrus mental in having him sent to prison. So far was it from be:ng true, that he even refused to attend at the Police office. Subsequently he ( Mr. B.) did, upon va.. various occasions, speak to the Secretary to the 'Frew• wry, and prayed him to Ict that poor man out. The answer was, that he might come , out when he pleased, if he found sureties. By law he could not otherwise be di-charged. It was never intimated to him that derange• meat was the cause of his detention. But he could tell his Hon. Friend that he was reported as insane by Sir G. Tuthill,and another medical Gentleman of great expe rience in such matter.. The unfortunAte man had used no threats against him, but he had used threats, and very bloody threats, against a Learned Judge, and pur chased a pistol toa, to carry them, as he s id, into effect. Whatever might be hie state now, he mast doubt very much whether at one time he was so perfectly sane as his Hon. Friend would lead them to believe. Perhaps his Hon. Friend was confirmed in his opinion by the very weakness of the arguments in support of it, as he observed, that upon many occasions in that Hoene he to the strength of the reasoning agatnt it. Upon the no• casion when this unfortunate person made the assault upon him in the lobby of the House, he heard him ex claim, " Let the dead bury their dead ; is not a living man better than a dead missionary r and, upon inquir• ing what the cause of this uproar was, he saw him with a stick or a cane raised over his head, which he did not attempt to make use of. This was something very like madness. His Honourable Friend might not think him mad now, and he might appear to him or any other person rational enough. It was only by such means Sir G. Tuthill, who knew how to touch the proper string, that cases like this could be ascertained. He knew no cause of enmity he could have had against him, and he (Gourley) told an Hon. and Gallant Friend b his that he had no antipathy against him (Mr. B.), that he was treated with attention, and that he (Mr.B.) shook hands with him at his departure from his holt,' when he came there with a Petition on the subject of education. His case was stated anxiously and solemnly. The truth was that he had been abominably ill•treated, having beta tiled while under the influence of a cale.ttuse ; He did not certainly go at great length into the Petition, be• cause haring spoken so frequently on the subject of education, he did not think it necessary. What *hewed something extraordinary in his state of mind was, that _.....•mi1M ~ " .. : 111 . 4 . . l‘ i 1 .... 0 :. ' • I , I I 1 ' ' r ;it 1 Vi I I 1 11 , I I , I ei #~ 1M • • I