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1. • •• 2. ,6112 f a,kb Qeneral Pine P—Wlth die General I was alone. phi you flpply to OW one to come, as a witness, over here ? They offered to come over. Did you undertake to indemnify any person who should come over?—lt is not my character. That is not an answer.--The question was repeated. No. The only thing done was by the Advocate, Henry. Have you made no agreement with any persons to come here to pay them ?—I have made no agreement. I have executed an agreement made by Mr. Henry. How many agreenlents have you executed at the request of Mr.'llenry, and of what kind ?—The agreement is ten livres per day for their support during their absence ; a franc a day to each of their wives, and half a franc a day to each of their children. This agreement has been made because the passport would not be granted without an arrangement fur the support of the families. Have you not agreed to pay any witness for coming over? --I have not agreed to pay—Mr. Gemanili, the head master, said, when we were coming, that he suffered damages, the Ad vocate Henry, stated thatehe English laws granted indemnifi cation for what they might lose in their absence ; they conse quently requested Ratti to make an account what the loss might be. This was done on a stamped paper, and fixed at 5000 ducats of Milan. According to this account, made by the Ad vocate Henry, I have made good the money to the headmaster. Have you not given money to a person to be a witness?— Never to he a witness. I have, by the order of the Advocate, given a small sum upon account. Such a thing I have explained to all the witnesses. By whom were you employed to give this money to witnesses ? —The Advocate Henry requested me. I have been three times in England : first, when her Royal Highness was at Geneva ; the second time, when she was at Paris. After I had left her at St. Omer's, I came in six or seven weeks to England. I was sent for by her Majesty. The second time Iwas here eight or nine days. Did you not go to collect witnesses for her Royal Highness there ?—1 was sent to Milan, to render it easy to those who might wish to come for her Royal highness. I saw 40 or 50 there. What salary have you from her Majesty ?—None. I have a pension, the same I had when I was iu her service, about 210 Louis-4800 or .5000 francs. Where does your family live now ?—That of my father ai Milan ; of my wife at Sabiunniere's Hotel, in London ; I live at the latter place. I have not paid the account. I believe, being here as a witness for her Majesty, she will pay. Have you received any money here?—Never ; I have not been paid for the journey. I do not travel without money. To go to Milan 1 received £lOO from Kr. Coutts. Who gave you the order to receive it 7—The Queen. Did you not also take a letter of credit with yew?—No. I received from Marietti, by order of Mr. Henry, 2,000 livres of Milan, at Milan ; and I received 100 Napoleons at Venice. I went to Venice with Mr. Wood, to acquire some knowledge of a person it was necessary to know. I went from Pesaro to Rome with Mr. Wood. I have a fortune, property of my own, besides my pension.—Here the cross-examination ceased. The witness underwent an examination by the Peers, but nothing appeared, in the slightest degree calculated to shake his testimony. Mr. 13xouness then rose and addressed the House to the fol lowing effect :—" My Lords, before your Lordships retire, I wish to call your attention for a few moments to the peculiar cir cumstances in which we, her Majesty's Counsel, are placed. We now find ourselves under the necessity of appealing to yotir justice, and to which we trust, we shall not appeal in vain.— It will be in the recollection of your Lordships, that in an early stage of this defence we called on a person who had been sent over to Carlsruhe for a witness, not only of high rank and cha racter, hut a witness the most important in the defenCe of the Queen—a witness who would shew, what he alone could shew, that her Majesty was not the person described, as of low habits, associating with vulgar persons, and skulking from every one of rank and respectability. This witness, my Lords, would prove, that so far from this being the case, her Majesty after returning from her long journey went to Germany, visited her blood rela tions, and there ' and eat in Italy, she desired to fix her abode ! A Palace was tahen for her, and she had no other wish than to live and die in the midst of her kindred ! My Lords, I conceive this evidence, if I had been possessed of it, complete, decisive, plenary, and not leaving one stone to be removed from the struc ture of perjured accusation that has been raised against her Majesty. It now fulls to my duty to complain that this witness is still withheld from us. I acquit his Majesty's Govern ment of all blame, for they have done their duty. The Minister of this Country applied at the Court of the Grand Duke of Baden for the Baton D'Ende, Chamberlain to the Grand Duke, to come over as a witness for her Majesty. N. Berstett, the Alinister of the Grand Duke, at length, told the Cheptherlain that he was not refused permission to come, but that he had no power whatever to enforce him ! and yet this very M. Barstett compelled Barbara Kress to come here as a wit ness against her Majesty !—Then a letter of permission is given to Baron D'Ende, and he, by nature a very worthy man, but by profession a Chamberlain ! and, knowing the feelings of the Court of Baden better than we do, falls ill of a malady never before heard of, at the very moment,when his services were most wanted. It would almost seem as if Rastelli's illness had passed from Alilan to Baden, on purpose to visit this worthy Chamberlain, who now finds himself so very ill, that a long, long period will be necessary for his recovery. This faithful Chamberlain, like a good courtier, falls ill most opportunely for one side of the qui ition, and no doubt he has his reason, but most unfortu nately for the Queen, who feels herself now and for ever de prived of this most important witness. My Lords, I throw my self on your Lordships with entire confidence that the Court will give due weight to this statement, and•will not proceed upon the new and monstrous principle, that a person accused of nine or ten chat ges, and who has refuted seven or eight of them, though prevented by unavoidable circumstances from giving a complete answer to the rest, is still, for the first time since jus tice was known in our Courts, to be held guilty ! Counsel were then ordered to withdraw. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, his Majesty's Ministers were particularly anxious that the Queen should possess' all their influence in assisting her with witnesses. lie had this morning received dispatches, with the contents of which he im mediately made her Majesty's Counsel acquainted. Copies of these dispatches and other documents, connected with the subject, he would now move to be laid on the table, arid they would shew that everything had been done by his Majesty's Ministers to enforce the attendance of the witness Baron d Ende. No thing more remains for me but to lay the Papers upon the table ; what operation they may have upon the whole case here after, it is not for me to determine. The Papers have been printed, and will be ready for delivery in a few hours.° The L4)ltI) CHANCELLOR moved that the House do now adjourn. The Arromutv-Greweaet, however, presented himself to the notice of the House, and, amidst many cries of " Places, Order, order," asked what course the Counsel for her Majesty now' ' intended to pursue? Mr. Baoricuest replied, " I thought it my duty to give the explanation I have afforded why we did not proceea with more evidence to-day. I shall take till the next meetiug of the Court to consider what course the Counsel fur her Majesty must pur sue."—Adjourned at a quarter before four o'clock. • lur a copy of the Correspondence see thefuurth page. LORDS' PROTEST AGAINST THE SECRET COMMITTEE. DISSENTIENT. 134.cwrze this Resolution appears to be inconsistent with the principles upon which ill Courts refuse to compel the production of any part of th.., confidential col respondence of professional persons, employed confidentially as such, in the matters to which the coriespondence relates. Because no particular circumstances in this case appear to be sufficient to authorise cur not aelhering to thu rules of proceed ing founded on those principles. Because, therefore, this Resolution, if acted upon as a prece dent, may dangerously affect the administration of justice. ' Eldon, Chan. 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THE QUEEN. am MIIPMI In every circle, the question now is, What will be the next steps in this most amazing Trial? amazing in every point of view, whether we look at the nature of the charges, at the rank and virtues of the Person age accused, at the Prosecutor, or No-prosecutor, who carries on the suit, at the manner in which the a:tion has been got up, at the agency employed in fa'aricating evidence and suborning witnesses, at the contradictions, the infamous and base charac ters of the witnesses that have given evidence against the QUEEN ; or whether we look at the very opposite character of those by whom their testimony has been torn up by the roots, at the manner in which her MAJESTY'S defence has been conducted, and that too in spite of all the impediments thrown in the way of the defence.—But still the Question remains, What will now be done in consequence of the facts stated by Mr. BeouotrAtr, and vouched for by Ministers, re specting the non-appearance of Baron d'Erroz, the Grand Chamberlain of, the Duke of BADEN, whose testimony would have tended to remove the only dirty shreds that remain of the whole paraphernalia that was prepared for the decoration of the QUEEN of ENGLAND by certain conservators of public morals? In another part of our Paper will be found a copy of the Correspondence respecting this Baron d'ENDE, and his lamentable indisposition, laid before the House by the Earl of LIVERPOOL, after Mr. BROUGHAM'S statement had been made respecting the difficulties which this detention of evidence threw in the way of her Majesty's Counsel. And let us observe, before quitting this topic, that it will be seen by the Corres pondence, that the compliment paid to Ministers by Mr. BnouttAst, appears to have been really well merited. As we write our leading article while waiting for communications from our Reporters who attend the House, we can, at this moment, only grope at the line of conduct likely to.be adopted in the present cir cumstances of the trial ; or, rather, we shall content ourselves for the present with stating what rumour brings us from the Higher Circles—leaving to time to ascertain whether well or ill founded. And the rumours which are current in the circles alluded to, are indeed mo portentous in some of their particulars. In the first place, it is said to be the intention of Ministers speedily to put a termination to the pre sent Bill—the evidence not being deemed sufficient to warrant its being pressed through the second reading : or rather the evidence in support of the Bill having been proved completely infamous, by the opposing evidence on the part of her MAJESTY. In the second place, notwithstanding the evidence not being found sufficient for the support of this Bill, it is reported, that another Bill will be introduced into the House of Commons, calculated, in some of its clauses, to mortify her MAJESTY; at least so we should construe it, and so will all the world, if the particulars be true which have reached us respecting it. The intended Bill will, ostensibly, be for providing a suitable maintenance for her MAJESTY the QUEEN Consort of ENGLAND, by settling upon her MAJESTY an adequate annuity for supporting an Establish ment becoming her high rank and dignity ; but it is understood to be intended to set forth in the pream ble,—that her MAJESTY not having demeaned her self, on all occasions, in a manner suitable to her high rank and station, it is deemed advisable to de prive her MAJESTY of all her power and patronage as Queen Consort, and, of course the Bill will con tain enacting clauses to that effect. . We mention the fact as it has been stated to us, but the latter part is, in every point of view, so mon strous, that we cannot bring ourselves to believe that Ministers can possibly have such an object in con templation. To assert that they have such an inten tion, would, we think, be a libel on their understand ing and character ; for such a preamble to any Bill, or any such enactments, after the evidence that has been produced, would be a gross libel against her MAJESTY, and we cannot believe that even Lord CASTLEREAGU would i t,ake upon himself the respon sibility of having advi,ed such a measure, or brought such a Bill into Parliament. If any can be found among the enemies of the QUEEN who can either ads ise or sanction a measure like this, they must still be in dead sleep. May HEAVEN avert such a fresh calamity from the in sulted QUEEN—the insulted People of England.-. England will not suffer her QUEEN to be thus libelled. England demands, and wills to have " Substantial Jilstice" in everything that respects her much- injared QuinN. EIGHTEENTH DAY OF THE DEIENCE. HOUSE OF LORDS. This day the LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack a fcvr 'minutes before ten o'clock. Prayers were thee read, and the li‘t called over in the usual manner. -The Earl of HARROWBY brought up the Report of the Secret Committee appointed to examine Joust ALLAN Pownu. respecting the mission of Rasta to Milan, and to verify the extracts from the correspondence of Mr. Powers with Colonel Boom, on the subject. The Report stated, that in pursuance of the direction of their Lordships, the Committee bad met, and called up Mr. Powell, who said, that the Extracts be had presented to the House con tained the whole that passed between lim and Colonel Brown on this subject, and that they had verified and compared these Extracts with the originals, and found them to be correct. The Extracts divided tbenuelves into two heads. First, the Letters between Colonel Brown and Mr. Powell, upto the 14th of September last. Secondly, the Correspondence that had sub sequently passed between them. It appeared that as early as the 4th of July, Colonel Brown wrote to Mr. Powell, and stated the great alarm that prevailed In Italy relative to the mal-treat ment of the witnesses against the Queen, en their landing at Dover ; and he recommended that letters from all the witnesses to their friends should be immediately forwarded to Milan by a courier. Colonel Brown made similar representations, in letters of the 10th, 14th, and 18th of the same month, and also on the 4th of 'August, in the last of which he said the alarm had increased considerably in consequence of the non-arrival of letters. In several ether letters of a subsequent date, Colonel Brown urged the necessity of immediately sending a courier with the letters from the witnesses, as the attack on them at Dover had been much exaggerated, it being reported in Italy that Rasteill him self had lost an eye, that Sacchi had been killed, and that all the other witnesses had been much injured. Colonel Brown further stated, that these reports prevented other witnesses from coming to England, although they had previously agreed to do so. - That part of the correspondence which relates to Rastelli be ing selected to carry the dispatches, was not given by Mr. Pewit:, as he stated it might prdudice the Inquiry now pending. Mr. Powiu., in a letter to Colonel Baows, dated the 13th of September, says, " I send Rotelli, and hope he will be of set-- vice to you, but he must be back here by the 3d of October. I doubt not but you find much difficulty in getting witnesses to come over, but hope you will exert yourself." In a letter of the 14th of September, Mr. POWIILL says, " Rastelli takes let ters from all the witnesses, and I hope he will soon return with the Papers with which I send him to get verified, and with the other witnesses. Colonel Brown, in. a letter to Mr. Powell, states the arrival of RasteUi, and expresses his regret that he is obliged to return.— In two letters from the Colonel, dated the Ist and 2d of Octo ber, be states that RastAll is ill of a fever. Mr. Powell, ins letter to Colonel Brows, dated October $, says, he is sorry to find that RastelU is not able to come back ; and that if he bad bad any doubt of his return at the time, he would not havy sent him. _ That the Attorney-General desired that Colonel Brown should leave no means unemployed to hasten the return of Rastelli. Ina letter from Colonel Brown to Mr. Powell, dated the 4th of October be says, Rastelli is still confined to his bed. I have not seen him since the day of his arrival, and the day after. I learn, however, that he is so ill that he will net be able to re turn in less than three weeks. The Earl of HARROWBY moved that the Report be re ceived.—Agreed to. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved that the Paper s pr e. sented by Mr. Powell to the Secret Committee be up and returned to him. _ _ Counsel were called in at kalf-past ten o'clock. Me. Bliotionass--My Lords, we wish, with permission of the House, to call back Mademoiselle De Mont. The Soucrres-GaNzzat said, he was afraid some mistake had occurred with respect to De Mont, who could not immediately attend. Mr. Vizard, the Solicitor for her Majesty, had in formed Mr. Maule that De Mont would not be wanted until twelve o'clock. A messenger, however, had been sent off, and that witness would be produced as soon as possible. _ _ Mr. BROUGHAM intimated that the mistake was of no import ance, except merely as it affected the convenience of their Lord ships. He should, in the interval, take the opportunity to request that their Lordships would accept as evidence a document which had considerable effect upon the charges against her Majesty, more especially with reference to the notoriety of the conduct ascribed to her. Taeir Lordships would be pleased to recollect, that it was said, in the preamble of the Bill, that her Majesty not only had comluct d is.trself with the grossest Impropriety abroad, but alio that a g: eat scandal and dishonour had been brought upon his Majesty's family and kingdom, by the scandalous publicity of her behaviour; and that the measure had been brought forward to evince the just regard ritertalned for the dignity of the Crown. Consequently, it was by this open conduct that her Majesty de graded the dignity of the Crown. ft was by bringing her own conduct into contempt and derision in the eyes of foreign na tions. " I hold in my hand (said he) papers which will give the lie to this part of the preamble, by chewing the good report, and ' high general estimation in which her Royal Highness the Prin cess of Wales was held by foreign nations. I have here the Austrian Gazette, published at Trieste, which states that her Royal Highness the Princess of 'Wales, a Princess of splendid rank, arrived at Trieste on the iSth day of April, at twelve o'clock in the day, and that she went to the Opera, splendidly attired and attended; that she left Trieste next day at five o'clock, accompanied by every demonstration of respect, &c. Ste. I am ready to shew your Lordships, by foreign prints, if your Lordships will consent to receive foreign prints as evidence, a species of proof not, I admit, considered in the Courts below as conclusive, but certainly furnishing prima facie testimony of the groundlessness of that part of the preamble." . The ATTOSNIM-GI4IEiIAL submitted, that foreign newspapers could not be received as. evidence • and he must censure his Learned Friend for having produce d so inadmissible a species of proof. He begged to know in what manner his proposition would have been received by their Lordships and the Learned I, Counsel for the Gbieen, if he had produced, amongst his ether evidence, a bundle of newspapers to substantiate the charges? The otierroa-Graimias. said, it was palpable that Mr. Brougham's object in offering this sort of evidence, which he well knew could not be ;dullard, was to make an impression upon their Lordships' minds, in opposition to the evidence which had been legally given before the House. He (the Solicitor- General) did not know what impression the very blameable conduct of his Learned Friend in reading the statement to their Lordships would make , but the motive was obvious, Mr. Baouratsx.—" I am ready to admit, and I have already admitted, that this paper could not be received as evidence in the Courts of Justice; but we are not here as we would be in the Courts i 1 Justice. If we were defending this case in the Courts •low, we would have a high privilege, which is here denied to us. I might challenge the Jury ! I might shut . the doors of the Court upon those who were disquali fied from sitting in the box, by the circumstance of having • acted as Grand Jurors; and, what is of most importance to the ends of justice, / nugAt prevent those who were actives prorogues frogs sitting as Judges ! Of all those privileges I am now stripped. . If your Lordships will allow me hereafter tb avail myself of these advantages, to which it is absurd to say I am not entitled, I shall then certainly confine myself to that sort of evidence wfiich is strictly legal. If my Learned Friends will say to me that they will henceforward conduct this prosecution as they • `would be compelled to conduct it in a Court of Justice, and at once allow me to challenge the Jurors that surround me, I shall abandon every eapedient, except that which can admit of no dispute in point of legal admissibility. The production of this . paper, which I hold In my hand, is certainly an anomaly, but it is an anomaly arising from that extraordinary anomaly which ' placed the prosecutors of her Majesty upon the Bench to in , luence and decide." The House seemed to feel this sudden explanation, and The LORI) CHASCRLLOR said, In a very low tope.— Mr. lhongitam, ! have it in command from their Lordship. to inform you that the paper cannot be received as e►idence ' '—(4 &VV. RIM DIPLOMA OF THE ORDER OF BT.CAROLINE. Lord LAUDERDALE said, be understood that Mr. How. natal was in waiting, in obedience to the order of the House, With his Diploma of the Order of St. Caroline, of which h e h a d been created* Knight. His Lordship moved t hat Mr. Hownar a should be called to the Bar. _ _ That Gentleman having appeared according to the order of their Lordships, presented his Diploma of the Order of Et. Caroline. It was read first in Italian, and then in English, by the Inter preter. We shall notice in the usual way the passage; which caused the greatest mirth amongst the Judges, who listened with the utmost attention " Jenciafria, 4111 e*Juey, 1816. " By these presents, signed by the , own hand of her loyal " Highness the Princess of Wales, and bearing her seal, her " Royal Higbneu instituting and creating this Order cf " Caroline, to recompense the faithful Knights who have accom " panied her on her pilgrimage—Of laugh/—to the Holy Land " First, This Order shall be given as a reward only to those " who accompanied her Royal Highness to Jerusalem, except a her Royal Highness's physician, Dr. Mochetti, who, by a " singular accident that happened to him, was not present. " Second, Colonel Bartolomo Bergami, Baron of Franchini, Knight of Malta and of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem, "Equerry of her Royal Highness, shall be Grand Master (4 " laugh); and his children, males'u well as females (Loud lcus4- 4 0 lee), shall succeed him, and have the honour of wearing this " Order from generation to generation—(Laughter).-4b oto ad moluses"—(Loud laughter). . " Third, This honour and advantage shall be granted to the " Knight of the City of Jerusalem, William Austin, and his "legitimate children—(Laughter)—for ever; and for ever— " (Laughter)—shall they enjoy this honour." " Fourth, This honour shall be personal to Captain How " nam, of the Royal Navy, and Knight of the City of Jeru.. salem, and one of the suite of the Princess of Wales—who is " created one of the Knights of this Order. The Cross and Pa " tent shall be returned to the Grand Master on the death of Mr. " Hownam."—(Lotaghter). " The Grand Muter shall wear the cross round his neck, and " the other Knights shall wear it in their button-holes at the 0 left hand of their coats—(A laugh). The Order shall be called " the Order of St. Caroline, and on the red cross shall be the motto • Hold suit qui osal ypeosse.' The colour of the ribbon " shall be lilac and silver. (Signed) " CAROLINE " Colonel Bartolomo Bergami, Baron o ? Franchini, Knight of " Malta and of the Holy Sepulchre, Grand Master."—(.4 &sigh). The Duke of SOMERSET wished, before Mr. flowngiu withdrew, to put a few questions to hint respectirg the sleeping under the test. Earl G REY submitted, that the proper period for the Noble Duke's putting such questions would be after the defence was closed. The Duke of SOMERSET acquiesced, and Mr. Hownarn was ordered to withdraw. The LORI) CHANCELLOR asked, whether it was their Lordships' pleasure that the diploma and translation should stand part of the Minutes'—Ordered. Lord HOLLAND wished to ask a question of the Noble Earl at the head of his Majesty's Treasury. He observed, in the account which had been laid on their Lordships table of the Expenses incurred in the proceedings against her Majesty, an item of £lB,OOO for Secret Services. He wished to know what this item was for ? Lord LIVERPOOL said, that this was part of the Secret Service Money for the year, which had been voted on Estimate. It had been transferred to this account in order to give a full view of the whole expenses incurred in this prosecution; bu; the same objection which applied to an exhibition of the parti culars of the general account of Secret Service Money, applied to an exhibition of the particulars of any'part. Lord DARNLEY wished to put two store questions on the subject to the Noble Earl : —First, did the account which, in pursuance of his Lordship's Motion, had been laid en the table, include the whole of the expenses incurred by the Milan com mission ? And, second, did it include any part of the expenpes of maintaining the witnesses in this country ? ' Lord LIVERPOOL said, that it included both kerns, as far as diet could be made up at the date of the account. The only expense tbat he knew of that was not included was the expense of mess*ngers, and that was an item which belonged to the Fo reign Department. A considerable pause now ensued, from the absence of Made moiselle De Mont. Mr. Diaxaw, in order that her Majesty's Counsel might not be suspected of detaining the House unnecessarily, begged to mention the purpose for which they called op De Mont. They wished to examine her as to certain declarations, which they were informed she had made; if she admitted these declara tions, they would have the benefit of them, and if she did not, she would have an opportunity of contradicting or explaining them. He understood this to be strictly within the line of pro ceeding laid down by their Lordships. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that such an exarnim tion was certainly within the scope of the rule laid down by the House. Mad,ermeiteße Louisa De Mont was pow handed to the Bar by Mr. Diane, and Eransined by Mr. Wittiases. Are you acquainted with a woman of the name of Franchette tini believe not. Do you know a man of the name of Henry Martini ?—I do not recollect any such name. Do you know a place in Switzerland called Morge?—Yes. The woman of whom I speak is a milliner at that place?-4 know a mare/tame des modes at that place, of the name of Mar tini, not Martini—(4l laugh, at tot xiody chit distinction on oath). Do you remember seeing that woman, under your amended pronunciation, in March, 1818?-1 liaYe seen her several times, but I don't recollect in what month. Well, was it in the year 1018 ?—I do not recollect; but I may have seen her in the course of that year. Do yod remember sending for that witness to alter a bonnet for you ?—I cannot recollect sending for her,. as I did not re side at Morge. Well, without speaking of sending for her, I ask you if you saw her about altering a bonnet in any part of that year ?—I may have s--en her, but Ido not positively recollect %huhu I did or not. I wish you to answer whether you knosi the woman, yes or no?--I know this woman, Madame Martini. Do you remember having some conversation with her about the Princess of Wales?—As I do not recollect seeing her in the course of that year, I cannot recollect having any conversation with her. Did you see her.after yon left the Princess's service ?.—Yes. had you not then some conversation with ber respecting the Princess of Wales ?-1 do not recollect whether I had any ten vbrsation with her; it may be, but I do not recollect. Do you not remember Martini speaking to you on the sub ject of your journal ?—I do not recollect at all of her talking to me on the subject of my journal. Do you mean to say that you did not hold a conversation with this woman Martini on the subject of your Journal? —it may be,but I do not recollect. Do you not remember speaking to her on the conduct of the Princess of Wales ?—I do not recollect. Do you not recollect saying anything about the persons who surrounded the Princess of Wales?—l do not recollect. I have often spoken about the Princess, but not about the perions who surrounded her. Did not Madame Martini ask you a question about the cha racter of the Princess 7—l do not recollect having any conver sation with her on this subject. It may be, but Ido not rfr collect. Do you not recollect being . at Morse 3,-Yes, I lave been At 1 Morge several times. Do you not recollect Madame Martini asking if the Princess , was not a woman of intrigue (one piastre) ?-rli do not at all re- I collect. Ido not recollect having any conversation with this 1 woman on the subject. IWill you say that question was not put t o you 7—l do not at all recollect if this question was put to me. I have no idea of I:. Do you not recollect being angry about it ?—I do hot rezoi lea this conversation; I have not the least idea of it. Do you not recollect that you said it was all a calumny, and that it was the Princess's enemies wh o s p rea d th e rumou rs again st her 7—l do not recollect anything like it ; I do got recollect it all. IWill you swear you did not say so?—I will not swear. It may be.. I have not the leant idea of it. Before I was put oil my oath, I never said anything of what palsied in the house of her Royal Highness. - GRAND ANION CANAL. NOTICE is hereby given, That the next Qeneeal Assehably of the Company of Proprietors of the• Grand Union Canal,will be held at the Crown and Anther Tavern, in the Strand, London, on 111oNest, the 6th day of Novara's& nett, at eleven o'clock in the forenoon, and that the Chair will be taken at Twelve o'Clock precisely. R. C. SALE, Canal Office, Norfolk-Strand, Clerk to the Company. October 23, 1820. THE EVENING STAR. -