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Pw7 -- E PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, TUESDAY, JUNE te. Tbe Hook proceeded in the Appeal from tbe Coon of Chew eery, " Mary Georgina Seymour, an infant, by bat neat Priced, spina the Earl of kaftan and Lord Henry Selman" Tbe So licitor General, at confiderablit length, went over melt of the ar• ',IMMO urged In this Ceuta is the Court of Chancery, and was followed on the fame fide by Mr. Adam. The funks eaultdera dno of the appeal was then poftponed till to morrow. During the hearing of the appeal, the Whop of WINCHESTER addreffed the Houle In further confirmation of an &Merit, made by hie I.ordthip, which bad been referred to by *capacitor Ge. neral. relative to the educadoo of Mils aeymout In the faith of the Church of England. The LORD CHANCEI.LOR obfervcd. that whatever degree of ',fps!! they might entertain for the opinions of the Right Re. verend Prelate. their Lordthips, in deciding this appeal.could take Dada of nothing that did not diftinAly, and clearly, and plainly, appear upon t h e evidence. He trufted he Rapid Rand erected foe nulling this remark at this time; bathe could not at bet be aware of the nature and tendency of what the Reverend Prelate had to offer. There was an unenenntonly numerous attendance of Peers on fish oecalion. We do not recoiled to bate feta fo many elan bled together at any other time during the relent Se! Gan. His Royal Highnefs the Prince of Wales and the ether Royal Dukes were prefent. The trills Stamp Duties Sill was read a third time and peed, and • Meffsge feat to the Houk of Comma to acquaint them therewith. Srangers were excluded. whilft their LeerMips &huffed fosse meter el Prlellegelletwelie limed by the Zed of LIMERICIC. The MAW seinbusd Come Pm • Ihseepre were re-admit ted, bet het pohNe WWI was lone. asel very bra afterwards they were epic eveluded, when. we enderftertd,theamelleteration et the evidence adduced at the TrW et Lerd Wettest Melville waa m inuted. The Honk continued In difeufilen a eleven o'clock, when, we underftood, an order wu made to proceed further on the Trial of I Ant Vife•wnt Melville on Thoaday, and a hleffase ordered to M lent to the Houk of Commons to acquaint them therewith— Adjourned till to•mtrrow (this day). HOUSE OF COMMONS. Sir J. SfNCLAIR moved, that the Ad oldie act of hie Ma. foe limidng the Number of Perrone to be meteryod ea the Outfda of Stay Coaches, Ovoid be referral to as an iußnlNw to the Committee appointed for malideriag of the Highways.— Ordered. VANSITTART brought in the DM for Mitring the Rate of Duties on Spirits Dittliled In Scotland, which was reed aMt dine, and ordered to be read a faced time on Therfday next. The hilt Malt Duty Bill was reed a third time, and palled. Sir JOHN NEWPORT gave notice of a motion be intended to unite, for leave to bring in a Bill to regulate the eledlions In he tes& The Srft able!! of thebill he thould proper* was, to dif. guilty Revenue Ofilmes from being returning Miens, es they were now dtiquatilled from being voters. In the faced pima he wilised that it thould be imperathe upon ceeporadons, to examine rinetilly the claims of perfons claiming the right of freedom ; end third:y. he wined that in cities and towns, the freeholder Ikeda by pat pa an equality with thofe who bad obtained their freedom by tibae, vibe, at relent, can Mt St months after obtaining their freedom, whereas the freeholder mutt be regittered at haft twelve months prior ro the elation. fir ARTHUR WELLESLEY moved for Papers rerpedlogthe Charge whit Marquis Wadley. The Set paper for which be moved was,. the Copy of a Letter from Mr. Paull to Ma r ais Wellefity. dated Laehnow. Mareb to, s Sag, with the anfwer. Mr. PAULL feconded the motion. He, however, begged leave to Rate, that at the time of his writing that letter, be had been easy Sn ',perks in India, after his morn from Foshan" where Is bed Said above two man. It weave be fem. bowsaw. that that Loser complained of the oppreflion and atomise esamieted mew the Sy ftan of the Width Government in dm prinines of Oslo. Themes was then ordered, as we as an faranftbny tem of papers formerly moved for sod ordered. AS SSSSS D TAXIS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER in the Committee of Ways and Means) propofid the exemptions of which he had riven notice on a for mer n' f liht, namely, an allowance of 41. per cent. on the a Aid taxes, to thofe whole taxes did not ex ceed 401. per annum, and who had more than two hildren. Mr. PIUBXISSON thoeght, that the motive of thole exemptions was only a defire to mitigate them eefilbe feverny of the income tax. He did not eon. Eider the afraid taxes a fair way to climate the pro per redultion, as a man, either from a large family, 1r from his bufinefs, might, from &Volute need6ty, obliged to take a large Mae, that would oblige him to pay higher taxes. He thought that the principle of thole exemptions might be extended far as to require a feparate law for every feparate ft. mily. He 'walled to know, whether it was intended make this permanent ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER faid, that whether it was to be permanent or not, would be a quellion for the future confideration of Parliament ; but the inconvenience was lets in giving the exemptions on the affellid taxes, than it would be . the property tax. As to the queftion about lay ing down the limit at 441. per annum, it was evident that there mull be a limit fomewhere. The exemp tions, as now propofed, would amount to a very con- liderable turn, perhaps soo,oool. per annum. The Rtfulution, as propofed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, was then agreed to. Tie met was at papers famed , The CHA (in the Comm exemptions o our night, na the affcffed to ceed 401. per children. Mr. PIUS! 1J thofe etternri' ceffibe Cavern] filer the sniff per reduction, or (rain his hi be obliged to him to pay principle of I: far as to requi i m ay, He `wi to make this I • The CHA faid, that wh would be a q Parliament ; 1 the exemption on the proper ing down the that there mu tions, as now fiderable (um, The Rauh the Excheque Mr. Seereta . . I have to giatl i ' i swab to fay 1 l the perfon to I ' tions nearly 11 conclude, has I believe I 1111 years, by tree, y onec "fl c ; andmint in a wa admiratie i who, in no in grce of credit ties he has un tion of the F. el , 'pence. am pelleftly • my Honoura I the Winds ii 1 I mnti-n this S • . ot bringing I d inbted that full fiippril who, from w are afloved 1 (p e a to the S • t sii, npininn, thought it soli ' Ittiitt•in, than rail up'n I" • I take it nn rr ii • (ball fitlatnit t i Abolititm of ti gn eitAtlient I have had tl . , .hme ooll.ing aNd I fhnuld . 1 ' SLAVE Mr. Secretary FOX.—" Sir, before I go into what have to (late upon the fubjed of the Slave Trade, vrint to fay a few words as an apology for my being the perfon to bring that queftion forward. Sir, mo• 'ions nearly (imaar to the one with which I Ihall conclude, have been repeatedly made to this Houle. believe I may fay for the laft (lateen or feventeen cars, by one of its molt refpenable Members, who, every eccafinn, has concluded himfelf in Parlia lent in a way which has entitled him to the applaufe nd admiration of the Public and of this Houfe, but hn, in no inftance, has attained fo eminent a. de rce of credit and refpen to himfelf as by the abili ts he has uniformly difplayed whenever the aboli ion of the Slave Trade has been the theme of his 1 , 'pence. My own opinion was, and I coda*. I tor pelleftly eonvireed it would have been better if ny Honourable Friend (Mr. Wilberforce) had kept he bufmefs in his hands, and made the fame kind of Inti•lt this Seffion, which he has been in the habit bringing forward. I am flare he could not have mbred that he would have received horn me that rail (import which he would have had from thofe , hn, from what they have (hewn of their fenriments, ire atloved by views, fimilar to his own, with re. /pee in the Slave Trade. Though I was thongly of this opinion, ye', all circumfiances confidered, I thought it would be better that he thould make the trottm, than that I fh ,, uld : and therefore I take the ilk upon royfelf unwillingly ; in any usher rep t& take it nn myfelf molt willingly ; for if the motion I a 11 fulatnit to the Houle flould finally lead to the Abolivion of the Slave Trade, whether men call it a !encifot dienryor not, I confer, that iffor chest) years have had the honour of a teat in Parliament I bad elk, I th , ,uld think my life well Irene. ,14d I thou'd rethe suite fatibfied that I had not lived for nothing. Therefore, Sir, having laid thus much on the foisted of my making the motion. I (hall go into the fubjed itfelf as far as it is neceffary. Pre vious to my doing fo, it would perhaps be better that various entries on the Journals Mould be read. I than terminly move the reading of them before I conclude. The entries I allude to are thole which relate to what paired in 5792, as to the African Slave Trade, on the different Bills brought in ; and oleo what patted about this time twelvemonth. I mull commence with obferving, that whatever difference of opinion may have led to the defeat of this meafure by this Houfe, and the other branch of the legiga lure, yet withrefped to the opinion the Houfe has entertained of the Slave Trade itfelf, it has been, I will not fay unanimous, but certainly as neatly fo as ever it was upon any queftion whatever. It will be reconciled by chore who advert to the circur fiances of preceding days, that as appears by refole tions of this Houle, which, though not on the Jour. 'tale, were printed for the ufe of the Members, it has been the uniform opinion of this Honfe. that the Slave Trade was contrary to every principle of hu manity, juftice, and found policy. I will not fpend five minutes in arguing the principle, that carrying away men by force from their country is a predict to which no other charatler can be applied; or, as was well expreffed by a perfon now no more, but whole memory we all , I mean Mr. Burke,— " that to deal as a traffic, not in the labour of men, but in the men themfelves, is difgracefut to huma nity. and dellrudive of that honourable intercom & which ought to fubfift among nations." I will not enter into the queßion, or advert to the various ar fuments which have been urged to do away the orce of the propofition that the Slave Trade is an juftifiable—fuch arguments, I mean, as that you do not make naves of them, but that you gad dials gave: taken in war (which you promote) or colloids for crimes. To fay, that it is fit for us to prawn* Inch a fyftem, and to take men condemned for loch crimes as thole for which they are ufually fold as Haves, is to add hypocrify to the loft of gain, and to declare that to be a lawful principle, which your confeiences muft tell is unlawful in the eyes of GOO and men. Bns even if the crimes committed by the Africans were loch as that gayety merited to be the penalty, I fay. that for Great Britain to fend to to-operate in the police of an African hi (hews how the love of gain can that the eyes cisme to all arguments draws from reafon and hoseeseire. I will go no further upon this point, for, with a very few exceptions, it has been the acknowledged opi nion of this Houle, that the Slave Trade is an illegal traffic. I am aware that my Hon. Friends oppofite, the Members for Liverpool, and tome other Parlous in the other Houfe of Parliament, have declared the Slave Trade to be fo good. that if it did not exill you ought to create it by bounties. With all Teepee to thole poems, I do not emit& or with to include them in the vote of this day. I will advert. not So their authority, but to that cf an eminent charallee now deceafed, whole authority mull always have weight, when it is not ofed for party ptirpofes. I remember that a Noble Vifcount (Sidmouth) your predteeffor in the Chair, though he differed from me with refpeil to the time of the abolition, and the manner, yet, as to the deteftable dweller of the Slave Trade, and the neceffity of its abolition, be enter. tainly precifely the fame opinion that I do. I do not think that any Member of this Houfe expreffed more deteftation at the trade than the Noble Lord did.— The opinion of another Noble Lord, who did a great deal to prevent the immediate abolition of the trade, is recorded in the Journals, in the Refolntion moved by him, in the very words which I mean to make the bafis of my propofition. The words are ' , " That this Houfe conceives the African Slave Trail to be adverfe to jollier, humanity, and found polity." Having taken it for granted, that as to the general queftion, there can be no Member who can entertain a doubt as to the defireablentes to have the trade also- I tithed, I &mild hope that there will be but little dif ference of opinion t for, ever finee this bonnets was I brought before the Houle, 18 years ago, it has been uniformly, unanimoufl y,uninterrn ptaly,and un changeably convinced that the trade ought to be abo tithed. When we confider and compare this decima tion, and find that no one ttep has been taken in the courfe of 18 years towards abolifhing the trade, I cannot help thinking that the Hoofe will find itfelf bound not to Culler any longer delay. For its owa charater, for the fake of that reputation for jollies and humanity it has acquired in every part of the world, it will be necelfary to do fomething which may appear to conduce to the abolition of a trade fo repeatedly and forcibly condemned. I will not go minutely into the detail of what has pitied. The 6rfi time this fubjed was cube:hied to the Houfe was in 1791, and in a Committee of the whole Houfe the propofition of my Hon. Friend was rejeded. The latter end of 1791, or commencement of 1792, the bnfincfs was confidered by the country at large.— Warm feelings were excited among the people, and communicated to their Reprefentatives. In a fig attendance of this Houle the queßion was agitated. and was carried for a gradual abolition, contrary to the wifhes of thole who thought that an imenedisee abolition was moll defirable. The perfon (Lord Melville) who was molt for delaying the execution of that refolution, Paid, in 1792, that he could not con cede to any period for 'bathing the Slave Trade antecedent to the year I goo. Now. when upon full diecuffion of the fubjed ; when in the opinion of the greaten friend to gradual, in contradidion to imme diate abolition, the Houfe was to look to tgoo as the remoteft period, and we are now in tBo6 without having taken any Rep whatever, it is impoffible but the Public, and the whole of the civilized world, mull reproach us with negle&. We are come now to a period far more diftant than any man could have imagined the Slave Trade could have toned. I re member we, who in 1792 looked forward to Igo°, ridiculed the flow proceedings of Denmark. Now. whether the Abolition of the Trade of Denmark has been completed, in all its parts, I will not fay, but as far as I underßand, Denmark has completely abo tithed the carrying African gave' in Danifh (hips; and though others may go to their colonies with Haves, they have adopted the moll honourable, laudable, and jolt principle—they fay, if we cannot prevent others we can abßain from wickednefs and crime ourfelves ; we will at leaft prevent Danith thips from being em ployed is a traffic fo difgraceful.' I will fairly own, that when I firft confidercd this fubjed, I was fan-, guine enough to hope, that, confidering a variety of cireumßances, the total abolition cr the trade might have paffed boih Hoofer, and have received the Royal Mint this Sefton. Circumflances have happened to prevent it : debates have taken place, and bufinefs gone into, which made it impoffible to oafs this year. Even though we fhoold pats it, the Houfe of Lords would have a pretence for raying, that the lames of the Salon did not allow them fufficient time.— What then is the alternative ? Either to pafa over the rubjeft altogether this Seffion s and it would be the fir& time for many years it had been paired, or to bring it forward in the way I have done. The fort of meafure which I propofe, is to pledge this Houfe, not to any particular mode, but to an early exertion for the purpofe of effecting the abolition. It is for that reafon the refolution I than move will leave fairly open to future difcuflon two points:• firft, the man ner of proceeding. I shall be furprifed, if, contrary to my expectations, any perfon Iball bring forward a propofition, Rating, that it is not by a prohibition of the Oust trade, bat meafures conducive to the di. mioution of it, that you ought to 'bola it. I ball liften to loch an argument if it is offered. I confers that having confidered the fubjet more or lets fur twenty years paR, lam afraid it will be impoffible for any one to convince me that we cap do our duty any other way than by a dire& law, preventing it by a Britifh AR of Parliament. The fecund queftino is with regard to time. The queftion that store in ma, may arife pow. Whether the abolition ihould take place in two or three years, or at the end of eight years ? I leave there points opens repeating the de claration, that I think it almoft impotlible I fhould be thaken froze my opinion, that the immediate abolition of the trade would be the bed mode. It is with that view I mean to move the following refolu• Lien to the Hoofs " That Ibis Hoak cooed the African Slave Trade is be contrary to thellsssi hessaity. and faced palm will, with all she WNW insdairst Swale- USlne the hi riZsie..."'ln seesse, and et ISA period, as say be dosed selh Malin" Now you will perceive by the terms and grammar of the Refolution, that you are not to take meafures for abolifliine it immediately. I ibould hope this Re folotion would be palled with unanimity. Above all, I warn Gentlemen not to liften to the eat. tery which one of the Members for Liverpool will have recourfe to—l mean by telling you, that what we did with regard to the carrying trade has put an end to the traffic already. The Bill which they con demned has certainly had the effete of the trade be• ing carried on in a way left repugnant to humanity than before ; but it has not aboldbed the trade. II the trade is, in their opinions, already aboliffied, all I have to fay is, that I will be obliged to them to let their names to the fie that it is fo, and agree to my Refolution. Surely this is no great favour from one Member to another. Though the Abolition of the Foreign Trade has done a great deal, it has left a germ froin which the whole may revive. With re. Gard to another queftion, the ruin of the Well Indies by the Abolition of the Trade, I fhnuld do injuflice to royfelf, if I did not refer the Houk to that moll impreffive and brilliant fpeech of a Right Hon. Gen tleman now &ceded, but who is fo often mentioned. There is fomething in print which will give Gentle men an idea of the general purport of his (peech.— Some judgment may be formed from that account of it, but far fliort of its real merits. bid #1 fi it jaws awdreifetis If Gentlemen had heard the argu menu and incontrovertible faits Rated by him, and adorned, not with puerile or Rudied ornaments, but in that way which thole who did bear them pro nounced, cannot but recolleft ; they would find it dif ficult to fay that the intent of the Well Indies was likely to be affected by .the Abolition of the Slave Trade. I will only fay, that he made a calculation with regard to Jamaica, by which he proved that the flock of negroes could be kept up without any impel tation whatever. You have to take into the queftion of the increafe of black Caves their ameliorated con dition. The effect of their ameliorated condition has been tried in North America. The increafe of negro Caves in North America without importation, is more than equal to that of white men. In nineteen years it has more than equalled, if not doubled the number. When we fee fuch an example, and find that in a country where the population of the whites is molt rapid, that the population of the negro Caves I keeps pace with it, I may be allowed to fay, not that it is 1, damning proof," but that it is blefTed proof, that if you put the negroes in a lituation of comfort, you may have a population of fervants greater than can be wante4. I would recommend a courfe of gradual, kird, prudent, and well guarded emancipa tion of haves, as the means of ultimately placing the Wands in the Welt Indies on the belt forting. I hope and trail that upon the prefent occafion the memory of a Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Pitt) fo often quoted. will not be forgotten. However that Gentleman and myfelf might differ on other points, we were agreed on this, and thofe who admired him will feel that they cannot have fo good an opportuni. ty of (hewing their admiration of his pall conduit, as by adopting a refolution which is conformable t 3 the fentiments he entertained. I (hall now finifh by mov ing the refolution I have Rated." The former proceedings from the Journals having been read by the Clerk, the motion was put by the SPEAKER. Sir RALPH MILBANK role to fecond it. He Paid he had always given his vote for the Abolition of the Slave Trade, which he confidered a traffic contrary to every principle of humanity. He was perfuaded his vote upon the fubjee would be agree. able to his Conflituents. He was convinced the cul- tivation of the Colonies could be carried on without any frefli importation. General TARLETON laid, that this meafure 1 had been almoft invariably introduced before the Houfe annually for eighteen years without bumf,. at lean in the other Houfe of Parliament, though the queftion had been fometimes carried in the Corp. mons. There was not, on this occaGon, any poliiiire ground laid for the prelent motion, suiting, as for. enerly, in the real or fuppofed cruelty experienced by the haves in the Colonies ; there was not a Petition prefented for the Abolition, or any new argument advanced to [hew the necemty of abandoning the Slave Trade. He begged leave to warn Minifters of the injury which it would accomplith, if carried into effect. When Liverpool began the have trade in the laft century, it was only a fithing hamlet, but in pro portion as it extended this commerce, • S profperity encreafed, till at laft it was able to contribute nearly tt.rec millious annually to the taxes of the country. 1 If, however, this queßion were to be carried, he knew that bankruptcies, dillrefs, and emigration of artifans to America would be the confequence. He fhould conclude with Rating, that if the Abolition of ..,; the Slave Trade were to be ratified bylthe LegiOa cure, his conilituents intended to apply co Parliament for compenfation for their lola'. Mr. FRANCIS obferved, that the Honourable General's conßituents might petition Parliament for compeefation, but he trolled that they could not be fuccefsful. For his own part, be bad no hefitation to declare, that be would not accede to any compen fation for lota (Whined in a traffic revolting to hu• manity, jullice, and policy. As to the fubjed itfelf, he might be allowed to fay, that he had onifurmly fupported the abolition, without regard to the quar ter from which it proceeded. This being the ground on which he had refolved to aft, be mutt therefore exprefs his doubts refpating the mode recommended to the Houk for its adoption. He had espeined that the refolution of this night would be'fimilar to the one paned in May *793, which exprefsly Rated, that from Inch a day, in fuch a year, there Ibould not be any further importation of negroes or naves into the Well India Colonies. This refolution was deter minate and pofitive but that now before the Houfe was quite open and inconclufive. Lord CASTLEREAGH concurred with the Ho• nourable Gentleman (Mr. Francis) that the Right Honourable Secretary (Fox) would have aged mach more confißently, confidering his arguments both on that and every other occafion when the &Wee was Introduced, if be had introduced fome fubflantive meafure, inßead of an unintelligible propontion.—• The Noble Lord then took a view of the general que4 Lion, and argued at conliderable length againft the policy and jultice of the Abolition of the Slave Trade. The SOLICITOR GENERAL gave his cordial fupport to the motion of his Right Hon. Friend (the Secretary of State), though be confeffed he would feel more fatisfadion is Inpporting • motion for leave to bring in a Bill to abolifh the Slave Trade. Though the Refolution did not . go as far as he winc ed, yet he was ready to fupport it, becaufe the Hook would Rand pledged to take the meafure into confi - deration. If Gentlemen thought the Refolution too narrow in its °Nein, it was competent to them to fubmit a more enlarged motion. He did not fee any neceffity for debating the quellion at soy con& derable length, Weenie nothing could be urged in fupport of the Slave Trade but arguments already refuted, and affertions without the &Wow of noun. dation. He confidered the country to Rand. with refpcß to this meafure, in a aloft difgracefol condi. don. It would be remembered, that the Houfe had refolved in :yea to enquire into the opprefanns and , steaks Paid to have been then pradhfed in tbe co lonies. Accordingly a Committee bad been appoint. od to confider the fubjett. which reported that the fyftem purfued in she Wee India Plantations, as well as on the Coal) of Africa, was a fcene of ra. pine, cruelty, and. murder. After all this had been akertained, yet the country had ft nce (offered the importation of 3,600,000 naves from Africa. In order to get rid of the accumulated guilt and bathe- . roes cruelty which hung over the country, in conk- ciente of this abominable traffic, he would endeavour to acquit himfelf from any &are of it, by giving the meafure of abolition his moil cordial vote and fupport. General GASCOYNE declared, that notwitb Rend ing the attention which he had id to the fpeeeh of r the Right Hon. Secretary (Fox , be Rill entertained his former opinion on the rabic . Of all other times for eft/ling loch a meafure, this was thensoil improper, when taus and the other finews of war were In much wanted. The Houfe Mould well confider this fubjeCt. which moR confiderablydiminiM the public refources, sand injure not only the individuals concerned in this trade, but the whole empire. The Right Hon. Gen. deman (the Solicitor General) bad reprefented the Slave Trade as a fyitem of rapine and murder 0 ha nye/Rear I Hear I) but was it jun to make fuch com ments on a meafure which had received the (amnion of the Legiflature from the time of Elizabeth, and the approbation of our ancettors 1 (Lataibits: is way tam e the Route). The Honourable General then proceeded to vindicate the Slave Trade from Scrip ture, and quoted for that purpofe the asth chapter of Leviticus, verfes 4s and 4.6, in which the fele a bondfmen and bondfwomen was net forth, and deem ed conliflent with all law human and divine. The Hon. General concluded with expreffing his difeppro bation of the Refolution propofed to the Houfe fur its concurrence. Mr. WILBERFORCE adverted to the fpeech of the Honourable General (Oafeoyne) which he eon. fidered in Rome parts of it as an infringement upon the aria orders of the Houfe. It was, he contended, the glory of that religion, which the Hon. General had not treated in the molt ferious point of view, to forbid the practice, by telling us, that we ought to aft upon the principles of love and kindnefs to each other, and of good will to all men. The Honourable Gentleman then noticed the Addrefs to his Majefty, moved in t z 97, for the purpofe of inviting the Co lonic, to agree in the Abolition. So far was that addrefs from producing the defired effea, that the Affernblies of the different Wands refufed to accede to the invitation, declaring that they eonfidered the trade as their birth right. His Noble Friend was not jullified, therefore, in talking of the willingnefs in the Colonies to co-operate in the Abolition. With refpea to the affertion that the fame inherent impradiability was found to exitt from 1792 to the prefent moment, it was true that intereft would ever be a cool, Ready, and lolling principle, which mutt get the better of feelings of humanity and compnnflion. The Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Fux) was entitled to the thanks of his country, for having brought the fubjell forward. He believed his wifhes upon it were in unifon with his own, but he fhould have rather preferred a bill than the mode which was propofed, as the delay in arriving at the defired point would not be attended with fo many inconvenient's. If Gentlemen were on the (pot where the evils com plained of ezift, they would not (offer the continuance of the trade. All that could in reality be urged againft the Abolition was, that it appeared to be car ried on toe tardily. It never was detigned by Pao mance that the queflion of p.dicy thould be con netted with a traffic fo infamous. As to the popu lation, and the means of incresfing it. if Nature wan left to herfelf, fhe would take care that population ihould be promoted. Let the negroes be well fed, and their moral improvement attended to, and they would increafe and multiply, without the necaty of