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• .• '11••=••••=1100 ~. ...es of any. man In that high Ration, it In the cafe where his Soirereign was the Aecotor t yet no fetch thing had ever heed known to oneut, notaithiteading the Ittipici..ns furoefled ; and, limber, in cafe of a trial before the Houle of Peers, ' ' it is always cuitornary, if out of the Sedion of Pawl liament, for the Lord Chancellor to preftdc as Lord High Steward; and armed with extraordinary powers I and privileges under the Aft of the 7th of William ILL( he was only required to fummon fiateen Peers on the' vial, or up to the number of twenty.three, if he thought fit ; and on all queftions of law that might wife upon the cafe. he decided folely and perempto. rily. Whereas the Chief lila ice of the Court of King's Bench was controuled and checked in his legal deer. lions by the Puifne Judges; and yet no man has called into queßion the propriety of uniting in the Lord Chancellor the office of Prefiding Judge and Cabinet Councillor. Mr. Bond then went over a variety of documents, fo far back as the time of Edward the Third, to prove that the Chief Jolliet of the King's Bench had been always confidered as a confidential advifer of the King; and in times much nearer ,our own. that the great Lord Hardwicke was appointed a Cabinet Councillor, while Chief Jutlice of the King's Bench, before he was appointed Lord Chan cellor. which office he held for two months, in con jondion with the Chief Jußicefhip of the King's Beech, until his fueceffor was appointed to the latter; and in this issuance there; was the authority of that great man, and conffitutional lawyer, to prove the regality of uniting the Judge and Cabinet Councillor ion the fame perfon. Alfo by the Aft of the Sixth of Anne, chap. 7, the Lord Chief Juffiee of the King's Bench was appointed a Member of the Regency ; thus estircifing not merely the foodions of a Cabi set Councillor, bet the office of Royalty itfelf.— But the Lord Chief- Joilice Holt, fo appointed, having died before the Quin. the vacancy in the Regent y was filled up by Lord Chief luffice Parker, who, after the death of Anne, continued as Chief Jake, and a Member of the Regency, until the arrival of Geo. I. The next inftance was in the sat! Geo. 11. ear. mt, when providing for the mi• amity of the Heir Apparent, a Regency was ap =in which the Chief hake of the King's was one, his prefent Majefty being then but &Oita years of age, and it being necerary to pro vide for the defe ndants of the Prince of Wales,; the Idaveity was therefore appointed for five years, and rz ir j iaion was made to the Chief Jullice as a of it. And again, in the sth of his prefent Slisjeßy, daring a fit of Mites, it became neceffary to appoint another Regency, the prefent Prince of Wales being then but three years old. The Regency was accordingly appointed for fifteen years, of which 'the Chief jullice for the time being was alto appoint. ed a Member. Thus far, then, borne out by -a feries of precedents, he Gould not withhold his formica, at this late day, that an ufage fo uniformly idled upon for ages. was a novelty and an innovation. He con fiddred the prefent motion, as an attempt to deprive hie Majegy of the privilege of calling to his Coon eilot thewifdam of fuch of his fubjeds agile thought fit to . advice with ; and this attempt, upon the pre tence on which it Rood founded. was peculiarly un gracious towards that Monarch, whore reign was fo peculiarity diftinguifbed, for finally ettablithing the in dependence of the jodietal charater upon the Crown, He concluded by moving the Ostler of the Day. Mn STANHOPE explained. W. CANNING (aid, the Honoorable Gentleman uriio (poke lift, had admitted the tranfaition which ores the objeft of the Motion, had made a confiderable here/Lon, and that the arguments urged again& it had much planfibility in them.—He concluded a lon argument, by contending that it was repugnant to the chara&er of a Judge, and an innovation upon the toothy of jußice. Lord TEMPLE.-The Gentlemen have not pre. tended to difpote the cafe on conflitutional grounds. Indeed. to challenge it is untonflitutimial, in as far as it is interfering with the prerogative of the Crown. Whatever impreSons may have been made out of doors, it has not arifen from the importance of the *WO itfelf, but from the adventitious confequence vivo to it. The Cabinet is but a Committee of Privy Councillors. But Privy Councillors who are not of the Cabinet may give advice, indeed it is their duty. and are equally refponfible. In the reign of (tieen Anne, the Dukes of Argyle nod Somerfet, not being . Members of the Cabi net, infilied upon their right, as Privy Council lor*, of giving their advice, and, by that advice, a new adminiaration was formed. It is not as Cabi ns? Miriam, but as Privy Councillors, that refpon fibility ',umbel to the advifers of the Crown. Sup "ling Lord Ellenboroogh had no feat in the Cabi net, tie would have a right to give his advice as a 13arrin.. It would therefore, be neceffary, to give any cPtifequence to the refolutions propofed by the Gen tlemen on the other fide, to deprive Lord Ellenbo rough of hi. feat in the Houle of Lords, and of his title. of Legal Adrifer to his Majetly. Judge Black. tiot.e is the .idly authority in their favour. There is not • tingle cafe or a tingle astute for them. The Lord Chief Juflice, as a Member of the Privy Coon cii, examined Governor Pieton, and afterwards pre tided aphis trial as a Judge. Yet no exception was taken. The Lnrd Chancellor, as a Peer, reviles thole de ifs ins which he has given from the Bench. Lord Chief Juftice Eyre examined the perfous accultd of high treafon in 1794. and afterwards fat as Judge at their trial. Lord Mansfield left the Cabinet on public grounds, hecaufe he wi•uld not fit with the Duke of Bedford, and he returned to it on public grounds. This he raw in the haad.writing of Lord Mansfield this very day, and had it alto from a higher authority. Lord Loughborough. when Chief Juftice of the Common Pleas, was preterit at the examina tion of the tiaras in 1780, who were afterwards tried befotc him and yet no fault was found. Mr. CANNING and Lord TEMPLE mutually explained. Mr. Secretary FOX was willing to acknowledge, t sr the Hon. Mover had given him his advice, but b was nut inclined to think his advice good. He had cautioned him againfl the influence and views of pasty, and spina his being heard as the leader of a party. He was like wife accufed of being guilty of t • ffence of (Wing. that he bad not departed from h.. I•iimet principles. A charge of that kind was ra her whimfieal from that Gentleman when compar e with what followed. The Honourable Gentleman I.,::: laid, if he (Mr. Fox) cl , tl oppofe the prefent tilotit-s, he ihsiuld be inconfiftent with his los mer ptadlice. This was certainly rather-an odd pre• , ludesto his other nbfervationi. He had been re- ' minded of the matter of. Sir Elijah Impey, and had. btcn alto told, that had fuch an appointment as that now under confideration taken place during a former AdMiniaration, he would have oppofed it. But, in truth, he never did forefee, th.a the Cabinet Coun cil, a Council of whom nothing could be found in the flame books, could ever, be made the fubjea of a queflion of this nature, except indeed it were merely upon perfonal grounds. If a quetlion were flailed as to the improper introduaion of a perfon into the Privy Council, he would admit, that it would be a fair lubjea of difeuffion, hut that there fhould be a doubt., whether a perfon Mould do the duties that as a Privy Councillor he was bound and fworn to do, appeared to him a novelty. No Council of this defcription was ever acknowledged by law, ex cept the Privy Council. Every principle would have guided him to deny the doarine of confidering the Ca binet, as it was called, as a diftina and recognifed body. Every man in the Privy Council had a right to advife his Sovereign. His idea of a Cabinet was, that it was a body never recognifed by Parliament for very gond reafons. It was a cullom never recognifed, but con nived at, for its convenience, to avoid the mifchief of acknowledging it, which might be of no trivial nature. Any doubt that might have &fled on this point, he hoped might be removed by this debate.— The Honourable Gentleman fait!, he could not difcover who are the perfons that compofed the Cabinet. True bexisofe it was not known as fuch, and that was the advantage, if there was any adven t tags in the infitution. There was an advantage in debate on the other fide of the queftion. Produce, they (aid, your precedents. There were no prece dents to produce ; there was nothing but the tradi tion of our forfathers. No precedents could be pro- duced of a body without record, and without any emblems of their office. The Honourable Gentle man had faid, that nobody knew Lord Mansfield was ' a Cabinet Minifter till he confeffed it. In that, he was certainly wrong : but'as to the difficulty and the impoffibility of making the Cabinet a refponfible body, he mutt think that argument conclufive. But as the Gentleman was very food of calling it a ref. ponfible body, he thould with Gentlemen to thew him where and how it was refponfible as a body, or, in faEl, any individual of it, as fuch. When he had fpoken of public report, he feemed to have confult ed rather the newfpaper s and converfations in the freets than the astute books. Let him fee the fta tutes. The principle afferted would defroy ail re. fpontibility. In his own office was not the refpon libility greater than as one of a fet of advifers called a Cabinet? He thought that when the a&or could be got at, it was much better than to get at the ad viler. He could be got at in a plainer and a more entalitutional manner. But there were cafes where Parliament had got at the advifers of pUblic mea •fnres; and yet no Cabinet Councillor was confidered refponfible. The pradice of the Houle wat to make enquiry of the particular office. In the litter part of King William's reign, the Minifters were not impeached for efts committed by them as Cabinet Councillors. For the peace of Utrecht,' the refpon , able man was Lord Bolingbroke ; but he was abroad, and out of their reach. They wilhed there- 1 fore to implicate Lord Oxford. Let Gentlemen look at that impeachment. They accufed him of various offences contrary to the cutiflitution, and writing letters in the Queen's name. But why were there fa many flaifts and difficulties in that proceed ing ? Beeatife they would not recogitife the Cabinet Council. They would not fay lo ; though the buli nefs might, by doing 10, have been (month and eafy. The leader of that bounds was Sir Robert Walpole, who was, as I think, much abufed during his admi niar?tion. and fill more, perhaps, fince his death ; and though I think highly of much of his public cha rafter, yet I may °Verve, that I do not think he would have been very fcrupnlous about the means of gaining his objeEt. So I might perhaps fay of Lord fownthend, who was likewife a great opponent of the Tory party. Mere then was this.refponfibility of the Cabinet Council ? Let Gentlemen confider. They could not flop here. If thoy recognifed that feledtion from the Privy Council, they would intro duce a novelty without precedent ; and after going fo far, he thought be ought not to let Gentlemen flop there. They ought then to go no farther, and to make the Cabinet a formal body, known to that Houfe. Was that meant ? Were they going . to make that dangerous innovation without explaining what it was they intended ? He bad not fat in many Cabinets. His opinion of a Cabinet was, that it was a meeting of perfons high in office, to converfe upon public affairs, and to give advice to the King, and even to converfe upon fubjeas on which it might not be fit to give fuch advice. They 'are fimply Minifters, taking advice themfelves of thole whom they deem it prudent and proper to confult, though not according to any legal inftitution. The bell mode of refponfibility, he mutt repeat, was, to make the agent refponfible. If a Cabinet were held to recommend to the King to command a Minifter to do a particular thing, the voice of that Cabinet would be no itiftification Ks the Minifter. It was as Privy Councillors, and not as Cabinet Councillors, that refpontihility attached. People feemed to forget the nature of the Privy Council. Was it no objea of ambition to be a Privy Councillor ? Did Gentlemen confider it nothing to be (truck out of it ? That was the Council known to the law, and the Members of what ii called the Cabinet, are only refponfible as Privy Councillers for their advice. As the quotation from Montetquieu, he was very willing to allow it great weght t but however be might think highly of Montelquieu, be could not admit him to be a perfea judge of the nature of the Britiflt Conflitution. What Montaftrieu lira listed, was, the feparation of the Legillative from the Executive and the Judicial de partments. Apply this fairly. Had there been any propofition to keep the Executive Power out of that Houfe ? Gentlemen were not prepared to fay, that the Judges in the other Houfe, atid the Mai. ter of the Rolls in the Houfe of Commons, thould not be Members of the Legiflature. Thus then Was an end to the notion of not mixing the le giflative and the judicial - iiiuthorities. As to the judicial and the executive, there WAS the Lord Chan cellor, always a Cabinet Miniller. Where was the dillinerion between a criminal and a civil Judge; He could not difcnyer that maxim in law. How was it with a Lord Steward in cafes of trial for high , treafou ? Gentlemen were not content with the the. orics they had laid down, which were not bad in them. I:l . 2isote, where, though the dint was very invitin; you are told, " Yon mutt not eat." So a Chief Juftice mull not advife on law, nor advife on affairs of State. He ought to have no other obj et of am bition. Then why make him a Privy Councillor ? Lord Kenyon was Lord Lieutenant of Flintlhire. Was not that a place of power ? In the firft, and he believed the fecond Government in. France, af ter the Revolution, and in fcarcely any other country, except perhaps Turkey, the Leginative, Executive and Judiciary Powers were kept quite dif- Una and feparate. He did not pretend to great know ledge in thefe matters; the only law books of this def. cription were the Arabian Nights, and fuch books, in which the reparation of powers is incanted by the Bafhaw and the Cadi. Lord Holt was appointed one of the Regency, which happened, however: in the long vacation, or elfe he would have certainly Cat in his own court. Parliament, however, were very pro vident in taking care that the 92een thould die before Term. If Dr. Radcliffe had preferved her Majefty's life, the Conftitution might have been fubverted ! The Council of Regency, when the Prince of Wales was but two and a half years of age, might have re mained for fifteen years with a judge in it immove able from his office. The phrafe was " a Council of llant to the Regent," and was nearly the fame (elves certainly, but which were not applicable to this Contlitution, and they were obliged to cut and pare them to fait their putpofes. Juftice Blackftone had Paid, that a Judge ought not to be a Minifter of State: he begged leave, however, te demur a little to his authority as an oracle on there fobjefts and as , a very great and eminent Conffitutional Lawyer. He had, however, a very high degree of refpeft for his memory. He had laid down the municipal law in a way he admired, and he had fliewn how an ex cellent ftyle of writing, adorned by eloquence, can tender delightful the ftody of a dry fubjett. He ad mired the writer, -luid he admired him as a writer, more than molt seiters, for his avoiding new terms and gallicifms, which were difagreeable to his tette. He attributed great merit to him, but he demurred' to his authority, becaufe he had (aid, that the latter part of Charles the Second's reign exhibited the Conftitution in a ftate approaching to perfeltion.— . Now, he could not think that he who held fuch an opinion could be aConffitutional oracle. But what did that Judge really mean, when he Paid that a Judge ought not to be a Minifter of State ? He be. lieved he meant to nfe the left term in the true Engliffi acceptation of it ; not as the French, Ger mans, and Italiane•do, whole tile of it may be bet tranflated by oar term of Privy Councillor, or one who adminifiers the affairs of a kingdom. Look at Sir William Temples . Council, of which lie (peaks with praife. This was formed at the period when he confiders the Conftitutioa Co perfea. It was a fe ',Sion of thirty and odd members. In it there were Lord Effes, Lord Hones, Lord Cavendith, Lord Ruffcll, and almoft every name of merit, and among the relt was to be found that of the Chief Juftice of the Comma Pleas, hot Mawr tells us, that.it was propofed, that one of the three Chiefs in die Courts timid always have a place in it. This was the opi Dion of Sir W. Temple, who, it is known, was fa& ciently fcandalised at the adminifiration of the ' country and of the Omits of Law at that time. Ha quoted this as an argument ad howitete, to JAW Blackftone, from the time in which he places the pee fietion of the Conflitution. The practice bad eV, bees to make the Lord Chief Juftice a Privy Comm cider, and of eolith: eligible to be a Cabinet Corm ciUor, for in no one inftance bad it been difapproved by Parliament. Lord Parker was a Cabinet Coun cillor for lone time after the acceffion of George the Firft. So was Lord Hardwicke, and fo was Lord Eldon, during the two terms that he retained his two offices. That was not fo long as two years, in deed, or twenty years; but hill it !hewed that nothing repugnant was ken in the principle. Lord Mansfield admitted, that he was one of the Cabi net Council, but his Lordthip certainly did not lin ens& his fame by his politics. But the Honour. table Member had reminded him, that he then (Li nked the conduft of Lord Mansfield. So he did ; but be and the other Hon. Gentleman diffiked the American war, and other meafures fupported by Lord Mansfield. He did not oppofe that Noble Lord is a Cabinet Minifter merely. He thought Lord Mansfield a man pollefted of good and great qualities, though fomewbat defaced. But then came this inju rious difcovery i that though Lord Mansfield was a Ca. binet Minifter with fo many eminent perfons, nobody knew it I It came out in 1775, by furprize, and Come obkrvations en the fubjeft are quoted from Lord Multilane, that can fcarcely be, to whatever caufe the error may be attributed, fince the words impited are abfolute nonfenfe. He could never fay that a man ought not to adrift what he was to execute. — How could his fituation be unknown ? Look at the tree years when he Was in the Cabinet: no mao ever Cat with more affeffors. Was be fo little in ftature that lie could not be ken ? The Duke of Newcallle, / f ord Chatham, and Mr. Grenville, were a pack of old fools, and wanted the new lights of the Hen. Gentleman to fhew them that they were (obverting the Conftitution. They mutt Cutely have known their affociates. The Lord Chief Juftice was not hid in the corner when they met in the Cabinet Council , Room. If his Hon. Friend (Mr. Canning), were twenty years older, be would remember fomethiog about this; but he defired only fair play with Lnrd Chatifam and the Duke of Newcattle, lee. Re (pelting the independence of the Judges, highly as he admired the nay AS of his pram Majefty's reign, the better half was done by the AS of William the Third, which made the judges independent of the reigning Sovereign, though not of the fucceffor.— Now what of the fpeech of his prefent Majelty ? Does it not appear eitremely probable that Lord Mansfield was an advifer, and particularly Co, of that very fpeeeh, and the meafure to which it alludes ? The charge againft Lord Mansfield was, that he was a fecret advifer, after being a Cabinet 'Councillor.— The fubjeft of pi ofecutions l'or libel had been adverted to, but he did not learn that fuch matters formed the fubjed of confederation in the Cabinet Council. So grave a matter as treafon mull be confidered in the Privy Council : but when wai that done without fome of the judges ? Well ; but though a Judge may advife in this fubjeft as a Privy Councillor, yet not in the Cabinet : " But as to war or treaties, No ! there you make him a politician ; but do not you do fo When you make him a Privy Councillor This reminded him of the Rory of the dinner in Don thing with a Cabinet Council, and implied as much . • . . • the Cabinet • were, except the Arch bis hop, . , Ordinance, t h e Icate. the addition of the Mailer of the _ . ' or more than that. The tern Regency Ad . which he bad OR anode/ft% by • jil and voted for the tice Blackftone fat in that Hoofs, ed err Petriv°eanegefill• d with the • officers who compofed the Cabinet CotteiL. _le . t he meafureby which the Lord Chief Jullieetwasappecat a Regent. If he was incorrect in this, !bores* bed better memories might. arm& him. Th e Bi ght kart Hon. Gentleman then rec a p itulated the • aliments of his fpeech, and obfe rved, that t he iff nolf. fion of a Judge into the Cabinet was got al:amend by any thing that had fallen from the opPolite Mk. and that it had the example of the bet if dints. Were the lad three rears of the laft reign ioadOi. dour t They were brighten than any fine* dohs wdahyieshobfeLon4rrdsGoodx)oflapht,ihn.e jo l iii n ed the Lo fi r r d ß Aih Cabi buttoe nd ilk . then Chancellor of the Duchy of Lattealler. Mar It variety of other remarks, he concluded a very ford. ble and convincing (peach, by declaring, that he most beard a cafe fo little applicable to the contliinticinal n ? o p p i n o t fi s i f ; t o t n p , p o b f u e t d , t o o n be th e n e d c a o n n g t e ra r e r d y . , ih li on e l d d id th "l ank co a u n r y t Gentleman for his fupport, but if Gentlemen were • determined to oppofe, he hoped they would. always choofe fah qiielboos as the prefent. Lord CASTLEREAGH (poke at fame length in reply to Mr. Fox, and 'in defence of Mr. Stanhopes Refolutions. ' • Lied Hatial pri n . did sot de ti enter bite iti prised andisasefaisis it haeg i bet tether aW 10•0• Wt [displeased obateeseros late serber of !la atitift. tic Marteserid ' he Wag o ag ib littagliolggrealWlWWlolll It Wall paano w a mi 4 s. 1 abaa. • k - Oar tar die kir re art eiesseser Itob as *otlenellee. firm& Mt dc atrial* . Metal* amok be ha peepers* terrelittioe i oral eldp be bet ou theterieb whir Me rind. 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Lord Meader wirer et le syde, for the bet mks le tie wield, break be wed tiwoM ail. .In 1 7 6 5, ho side raw lets oar, and IMO atagt• wards WAX out for the bee geed testae, which he might 411 c to caroms with tas iiseeerable Gentleman impolite, could hip no lora : the it was the moit (hocking thug ChlelJultiee bier Mow any particulars of a charge before leapt pears on an Indidommt to Court. Did not the Hocourable and Learned Gentleman temensbw, very recently, In our binary, Mal the Cnipf Jultice of Crepes Pleas, Sir James Ere, attended bit the Cabinet, in the eanylested cafe of high uterus:l, charged aide& Mr Hardy and othem xiiiid after being; to conflated, this Lamed Judge was petalieloi Met er the comenitnon, although by Ms ad. vice they was readed and brought to trial. The nature of the fituation of a ClikfAultice renders him a political, as well as •itt. dicial chandler. Would not every man in the kingdom be fa.. prifed, if be west told that a late Attorney General had reefed the office of Chief Jullke, becaufe he had mired himfelf too muds in State affairs; but it would appear yet more extraordinary, If a Gentleman In that Gtuation, not feeling loch a repugnance to the high office, mould (upport with fo much energy the feparadon of the juridical charadter. There hints were rather thrown out for the private rededtion of the Hon and Learned Gentleman than for the general antiunion of the Houle. The principle contended front the other Ede of the Houle, if right, ought to be carried to its full event ; and a 'Chief plaice ought neither to be a Privy Councillor or a Peer of Parliament. Was this high Officer to be placed In the fame mon...Bic feclullon, left, by meddling with the affairs of the world, the purity of his habit would be violated?... As early as the time of Edward 111. Confervators of the Realm were appointed, and the Chief Juftlce was one of the four no. urinated. The Conftitu•ion, co various important oceaffcma, teems to look to the Chief Mice as to the rock on which the national frcurity Mould be four.ded. With regard to the itteoevenienee which was fuppored might wife from the refponlibility of the Chief Jolliet, la hit politital chandler, as a Cabinet Minilter ; lie had no filch liability, and therefore no loch difadvantage could accrue. After touching on various other topic., Mr. Shertdan concluded, with exprefflng his concern at (tiffanies with fo little propriety and dignity his slew charadter; and the Recife would cactife him, if. with funh thou notice, he badmen learnt his part. Mr. WILBERFORCE (upported the motion, after which the Houle divided op the Ansentinirnti —Ayes, 223.—Noes, be—. Majority againft the original Motion, tag. 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