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NOW • - - "ft ITROM . LAST 'NIGHT'S GAZETTE. selphillkikM OFFICE, APRIL 6. Copy of a Letter float Captain Salt, of his Majesty's ship Uni corn, addressed to RearAdnairal Sir Harry Neale, and trans mitted by Admiral Lord Keith to John Wilson Croker, Esq. His Majesty's ship Unicorn, March 30. SIR—I beg leave to acquaint you, that his Ma jesty's ships Unicorn and Stag captured this day, in latitude 48 de 30 30 min. N. and longitude 6 deg. 30 min. W. the French privateer ship Miquelonnaise, belonging to St. Malbes, pierced for twenty guns, mounted two lorm twelve-pounders, eight long .six pounders, and eight twelve-pound carronades, with a complement of one hundred and thirty men, nut four days tram Quimper j had taken a small brig, the Alexander, from London, bound to Lisbon, with a cargo of tin and iron, which vessel she sunk. The Niquellniin,tise is nearly 100 tons, only six months old, copper-listened, and is a very superior vessel of her class, an.l appears to be fit for his Majesty's ser vice. His Majesty's ship Phoebe hove in sight at the latter part of the chase.—l have the honour to be, &c. (Signed) G. B. SALT, Captain. MILITARY - PROMOTIONS. WAR-OFFICE, APRIL 6. loyal Regiment of Horse Guards—Cornet H. H. Wynne to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Clutterbuck, who retires. Com mission dated April 1, 1813. esh Regiment of Light Dragoons—Cornet P. T. Dalton to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Gillam, who retires. Da ted ai above. 10th Ditto—To be Lieutenants, without purchase, - Corset I. H. PoWell, Dated March 30, 1813. Cornet losias Jackson. Dated March 31, 1813. Cornet J. A.'Richardson. Dated April 1, 1813. elst Ditto—Lieutenant C. Johnstone, from the 18th Foot, to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Francis Evatt, promoted in the Garrison Company. Dated as above. Id Regiment of Foot Guards—William Frederick Hamilton, Gent. to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Knox, who resigns. Dated as above. eth Regiment of Foot—Captain Guy Campbell to he Major, by purchase, vice Carnie, pmmoted. Dated as above. 11th Ditto—Lieutenant R. H. Jones to be Captain of a Company ty purchase, vice Hantllton, promoted. Dared as above. 113 Ditto—Ensign R. Westrnore to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Gahagan, who retires. Dated as above. 39th Ditto—Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel C. Sturt to be Lieute nant-Colonel, vice Wilson, deceased; Brevet-Majur H. Stan dish to he Major, vice Sturt : Lieutenant E. Vincent to be Cap tain of a Company, vice Standish ; Ensign A. N. Purefoy to be Lieutenant, vice Vincent; Volunteer R. Meredith, from the 6th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Purefoy. Dated as above. 45th Ditto—Ensign R. S. Stewart to be Lieutenant, without pur chase, vice Milne, placed upon half-pay ; Lambert Brabazon Urmston, Gent. to he Ensign, vice Stewart. Dated as above. 18th Ditto—Ensign Martin Joyce, front the South Mayo Militia, to be Ensign. without purchase. Dated as above. 16th Ditto—J. F. Nelson, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice M'Derrnoit, promoted. Dated as above. 69th Ditto—Lawrence Watson, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Hartford, promoted. Dated as above. 63d Ditto—Lieutenant Thomas Freer, from the 90th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Uniacke, who exchanges; and James Collier, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Inglis, appointed to the Sti Dragoon Guards. Dated as above. 67th Ditto—Ensign Lewis Evans to be Lieutenant, without pur chase, vice Moyle, promoted ; Gentleman Cadet G. P. R. Codd, from the Royal Military College, to be Ensign, vice Evans.— Dated as above. 71st Ditto- , -Abraham GoT, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Dickson. Dared as above. 72d Ditto—Er.s'gnTlionias James to be Lieutenant, without pur chase, vice Burnett, who resigns; William Fraser, Gent. to be Ensign, vice James. Dated as above. 731 Ditto.--Williant M'Eean, Gott, to be Ensign, by purchase,- vice Green, l.tetd: , , promoted. Dated as above. 77th Ditto.—Willia;ll Oeut. to be Ens.gn, without put. chase, vice Faulkner, whose ansohttruent has nut taken place. Dated as above. 85th Ditto—Alexander Biggar, Esq. to he Paymaster, vice Man by, dionissed. Dated as•above. 87th Ditto—Lieutenant Charles Cur to be Captain of a Com pany, by purchase, vice 1-:Law, who retires; Pullin James Bowes to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Cox. Dated as above. • 90th Ditto—Lieutenant T. F. Uniacke, from the 63d Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Freer, who exchanges. Dated as above. • lid West India Regiment—Major A. Maclean to be Lieutenant- Colonel, without purchase; Captain Edward Fleming, Irons the 31st Lot, to be 8.1a!or, eke Maclean. Dated as abrrre. .sth Ditto—Ensign John Canzphell to be .ieutenant, vice I.awrie, deceased ; Hugh Donald Mackay, Gent. to be Ensign, vice Cantpbal. Dated as above. Royal African Corps—Captain Ernert 0. Tripp, from the 11th Foot, to he Major, vice Kirgsley, deceased. Dated as above. 13th Royal Veteran Bat talion—l.ieutenatter homes Brawn, from the 39th Foot, to be Lieutenant. Dated as above. s rare. Robert Wm Tunney, Clerk, to be Chaplain to the Forces, vice Wentworth, deceased. Dated March 13, 1813. Deputy Assistant-Cumm:ssary-General Wm. Mackay to be an Assistant-Commissary-General to the Forces. Dated Febru ary 23, 1813. To be Deputy Assistant-Commissaries-General to the Forces. William Wetbermar, Gent. Dated March 1:4 1813. William Green, Gent. Dated March iii , 1813. 'rose' rm. STAFF. To be Hospital Mates for General Service—Daniel O'Doherty, Thomas Ryss, James Lennon, Henry King, James Johnson, and John Campbell, Gents. ; ant Louis Heinthurgh, Gent. vice Hunter, deceased. All dated Nlarch 25, 1813. The King's German I.egion. -let Regiment of Dragoons—William Edward Rudolph, Cent. to be Cornet. vies AO', promoted. Dated March 84, 1013. let Regiment of Light Dragoons—Cornet 8. Pretelenthal to be Lieutenatlt s viee Se ItarnhOrst,who retires. Dated March 27,1313. ell Ditto—Assistant-Surgeon George Milking to be Surgeon, vice Groskepff, promoted on the Staff. Dated Feb. 4, 1813. Zlll Batridion of the Line—ferdivand Scharnhorr; Gent, to be Eusign, vice I.luwellyn, promoted. Dated March 27,1013, The Duke of Brunswick Oel's Corps. Infantry—John Cornelius Sao: , Gent. so be Ewer, vice Schultz, promoted. Dated April 1, 1813. '1 he Duke of York's Greek Light Infantry Regiment. Captain C. G.D'A guitar, from the 8 i st Foot, to be Major, with 9ot purchase, vice CI urch, promoted. Dared April 1,1813. MEMORANDUM. The appointment of Charles Ebell Gent. to be Ensign in the Ist Battalion of Llght Infantry of the King's German Legion, as stated in the Gazette of the 30th ult. has not taken place. ERRATA in the Gazette of 2d February last. C9th Foot—For Paymaster Edward Mundell, from the 2d Bat talion, to he Paymaster of the Ist Battalion, vice Baldock, de• ceased, read Paymaster Edward Mundell, from the 2d Bat talion, to be Paymaster of the Ist Battalion, vice M•Natly, resigned. ARTIFICERS' WAGES. Lord SIDMOUTH moved the second reading of the Artifi cers' Wages Bill. Their Lordships would recollect, he said, that Pe:itions had been sonic time ago presented to the House . of Commons fur regulating the rate of wages ; that a Committee had been appoint-d, and that their report was, that it was hignly impolitic to legidate on the subject. It was not at that t me, however, that there were Acts in existeuce for regulating the rate of wages—but hi the c-urse of last year it had been disco- vered Coat there were Acts, both in England and Scotland, ren- I dering it imperative in Magistrates to fix the rate of wages. In the English Act of the 6th of Elizabrth, relating to this subj-ct, it was among other things provhjed that no artificer, haadierafts man,- or husbandry labourer, should take more or less than the regulated sum, under pain of imprisonment for 21 days ; and that no employer shotild give more or, less under pain of imprisonment for ten days. It did nut &Ore mind* so collet. ned as those of their Lordships to be aware how pernicious such a state of things -.must he both to the ettr e lqer and the servant, hut especially to the latter. They must all be convinced, therefore, that it was expedient to repeal Ouse:pernicious statutes, and such was the ohj tct of the BM, the second reading of which he now moved. The Bill was read a second tame, and ordered to be collima ted to-morrow The Felons' Transportation Bill was al.o read a second time. SAILING EXPICRINIE.NTS. Earl STANHOPE stated, that he had in his hand some mo tions for papers connected with the proposition intended to he submitted to the House by a Noble Lott! (Darnley) riot now present, on the subject of the Naval Establishment. though that question had gone off till after the holidays, he would muse tor these papers now, understanding front the Noble Lord opposite (Melville) that there was no ohiection to their production. H. then moved for a copy of Earl otanhope's note to Sir koger Curtis, and others, with the 41 questions ther-in contained; a copy of the report of Captain Lloyd, of the Racoon, to the Ad miralty, on the subject of the sailing csperi.neuts made Li con sequence of Earl Stanttope's suggestions ; auu copy of the order of the Ailmiralty Board io the Admiral in the Downs on the saint subject. Lord MELVILLE was not aware that a;ly public inconve nience would result from the production of the papers, if they were moved for with a view to the motion on the subject of the Naval Admiiii-tratiori: —hat if the Noble Lord meant to make them the foundation of a specific motion on the subject of ship building, he must oppose the production of the papers, as he did not thi:k that their Lordships were the most competent judges of the proper mode of coma ucting ships. Earl STANHOPE stated, that the papers were called for only with a view to the motion relative to the Naval Adininistr.ition. The papers were ordered to be produced. 1 NINA QLILs lON. On the Motion of Lord WALSINGHAM, the order for sum moning the Lords for Wedoesday, on the subject of the East. India Question, was discharged ; and the order Geed for Friday, to which day the motion of the Marquis WILLXIILILY, relative to the proposed plan of Indian Government and Commerce was stated by Lord WALSINGUAM to be postponed. Mr. LUSHINGI ON brought a Message from the Commons, announcing their consent that Mr. Drummond, one of the Mem bers of that House, should attend their Lordships' Committee as a witness, to be examined on the East-India Question. CURATLe BILL. Lord HARROWBY proposed that the Curates' Bill shouldbe recommitted to-morrow, for the purpose of introducing some , further amendments; niter which it was intended to print the Bill as amended, and deter the consideration of the Report till after the holidays.— . l'he Bill was accordingly ordered to be re• committed to-ntorrow.--Adjourned. [The Gazette also contains a grant to Major-General Sir James HOUSE OF COMMONS. Leith, in consideration of his highly distinguished conduct in the ; Sir W. GEARY presented a Petition from several Freeholders Battles at Corunna, Badajoz, and ::alamanca, an honourable at:g- of Kent, against the Jai' proposed to be built in that county. nictitation to his arms, viz. on a chief, a bastion of a fortification, Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented three Petitions iu favour of intendtd to represent that of San Vicente, the British ensign the proposed Jail. hoisted on the angle. and the two facts near the salient angle A conversation then rook place between Sir W. GEARY, Sir surmounted each by twc{ scaling ladders; and the following crest E. Kis a'reuacia., and Mr. Ca I.CRA ; after which the Bill on of honourable augmentation, viz. out of a mural crown, inscribed this subject was ordered to be committed. with the word " Salamanca," a demi lion, reguardant, gore de Air. JOHN SMITH presented a Petition from Nottingham in ang, in the mouth and sinister paw an eagle or standard, re- favour of peace. He stated, as au instance of the distress of the versed, the staff broken, intended to represent the French star- inhabitants, that in one parish, consisting of 7900 persons, one dard taken by the said fifth division of his Majesty's army in the third received parochial relief. said ever-memorable Battle of Salamanca; to be borne aad used, The Petition was ordered to be read, when it appeared to be with the motto " Badajoel. printed. [There is also a grant unto Georg e Ridout Bingham, Esq. Lieu- Ibe SPEAKER observed, that it was contrary to the rules of tenant-Colonel in the Ind (or the Shropshire) Regiment of Foot, the House to receive a printed Petition; and it was accordingly his Majesty's royal licence and permission that. he may accept rejected. and wear the insignia of an Honorary Knight Commander of the General FERGUSON presented a Petition from the Inhahl- Royal Portuguese Military Order of the Tower and Sword], , tains of Kirkahly, agiust the East-India Monop o ly. [For Bankrupts , Dividends, a rc. se t; th e last pa g e.) Mr. M. A. TAYLOR feed Tuesday, the ith'uf May, as the -- ._ . AMERICAN PAPERS. COMMODORZ BAINBRIDGE TO THE SECRETARY OP TILE NAVY. " Sr. SALVADOR, lAN. 2. " Sra—l have the honour to inform you, that on the 99th ult. at two P.M. in South lat. IS. 06. and West long. 38. about ten leagues distance from the coast of Brazil, I fell in with and cap tured his Britannic Majesty's ship Java,of 49 guns, and upwards of 400 men, commanded by Captain Lambert, a very distin guished ?ffiCer The action lasted one hour and 55 minutes, in which time the enemy was completely dismaited, not having a spar of any kind standing. The loss on board the Constitution was nine killed, and 9.5 wounded. The enemy had 60 killed, and tOl wounded certainly (among the latter Captain Lambert mortally); but by the enclosed letter written on board the ship, (by one of the officers of the Java), and accidentally found, it is evident that the enemy's wounded must •have been much greater than as above stated, and who must have died of their wounds previously to their being removed. (The letter states 60 killed, and 170 wounded). • " For farther details of the action, I beg to refer to the extracts from my journal. The Java had, in addition to her own crew, upwards of 100 supernumerary officers and seamen, to join the British ships of war in the East Indies: also Lieutenant-General Hislop, appointed to the command of Bombay, Major Wilke, and Captain Wood, of his Staff, and Captain Marshall, Master and Commander in the British navy, going to the East Indies to take the command of a sloop of war there. " Shovid I attempt to do justice, by representation, to the brave and good conduct of all my officers and crew during the action, I should fail in the at- eosin therefore, suffice it to say, that the whole of their conduct was such as to merit my highest en comiums. I beg leave to recommend the officers particularly to the notice of Goveztment, as also the unfortunate seamen who were wounded; mid the families of those brave men who fell in the action. " The great distance from our own coast, and the perfect wreck we made the enemy's frigate, forbade every idea of at tempting to take her to the United States; and not considering it prudent to tru.t her into a port of Brazil, particularly St. Sal vador, I had no alternative but burning her, which 1 did on the Slit ult. after receiving all the prisoners and their baggage, which was very tedious work, only having one boat left (out of eight) and not one boat left un board the Java. " On blowing up the frigate I proceeded to this place, where I have landed all the prisoners to return to England, and there re main until regularly exchanged, and not sei ve in their profes sional capacities in any place, or in any manner whatever, against the United States of America, until the exchange shall be regu larly thee:ed. " I have the honour to be, &c. " W. BAINBRIDOL." EXTRACT OF A LETTER, DATED RICHMOND, FEB. 14. " Smith's Island, at the mouth of the Bay, is in possession of the English : fortifications are erected, and his Majesty's colours flying there. Two frigates have proceeded up as far as York River. Indeed nothing can pass or repass, to evade the enemy. It is the general opinion, that a long and severe blockade is intended. Norfolk is, I think, safe ; the time ( which has been improved) allowed for defensive measures, and 3,000 brave men, will, I think, en sure its safety." PiIRLWIEN2ART PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL 6. The AtTo a weir-GENERAL was heard in the Borthwick Peer age case. Further consideration on Thursday. Mr. BAS K Es, and others from the Commons, brought up the Sinecure Bill, Piccadilly and Park-lane Paving Bill, Regent's Canal Act Amendment Bill, and several others, which were read a first time. ,Ilat for Ms motion olt the subject of the late lefal decision in the case of theXing e. Creevey. The Scotch Creditors' Bill was read a second time, and orde red to be committed to-morrow. Mr. BRAND presented a Petition from Mr. Crutchly against Barton Morris, Esq. the Judge of the Palace Court, and said he should bring forward a motion on the subject after the holidays. Mr. WHARTON hoped the consideration of the Petition would be deferred tin a suit pending against the Petitioner was settled. To this Mr. BRAND agreed, and the Petition was laid On the table. Mr. BYNG moved that the Manure Carriage Bill be now re ferred to a Committee of the whole House; but Mr. Potts CA aew, Admiral MARTIN, Mr. Houtz SIJMNZR, Mr. BRAND, and Mr. WLSTICRN, recommending a select Committee, the Ho nourable Member cunsented and a select Committee of 31 Mem bers was appointed. Mr. W. FITZGERALD obtained leave to bring in a Bill to relieve Widows and Orphans in Ireland from the operation of the Stamp Duty on Pensions. Lord CASTLEREAGH had leave to bring In a Bill to regu late the Cotton Trade in Ireland, providing the same summary mode of settling disputes with the workmen which exists in ' England. Mr. WHARTON had leave to bring in A Bill to alter the pe. nod of time respecting Bills of Assistance. Mr. F. ROBINSON moved for a Cominktee of the whole Howie, to consider the Acts of the 2d and sd of Edward VI. and the 33d of Henry VIII. relative to expatiation. Mr. LUSHINGf ON brought up the Report of 'be Committee lon the National Dehtßill. The Resolutions of the Committee were agreed to, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to morrow. JOINT PAYMASTERS OF THE FORCES. Mr. CREEVEY rose, hi pursuance of his notice, to submit to the House the motion, that the place of one of the Joint Paymasters of the Forces should be abolished. He had before objected to the office in the Committee on the Army Estimates, and he bad intended to have renewed his objections when the Re. port was brought up, but having been prevented by intervening business, he had given notice of his pre sent motion. As to the foundation of it, and the rea sonsior the House to adopt it, he should refer to their Select Committee on sinecure Offices, whoa had Re potted, that it was proper that this office should be abolished. They were supported in this opinion by the Right Hon. Charles Long, one of the Paymas ters, whom he saw opposite to him, who had given it in evidence that one of the Paymasters was sufficient for the perlormance of the duty ; and is this state ment the Right Hon. Gentleman was corroborated by the other Paymaster, Lord Somerset. No evi dence could be more satisfactory, wiled both these Right Honourable•Gentlemen and the Noble Lord had said, the business could be done as well by one as by two. On a former occasion there had been some futile objections made to the measure he now proposed : it was said that there was a great share of responsibility attached to. the office, and that two Paymasters were necessary to bear it. But the fact was, there was scarcely any responsibility, and if there had been, it would more properly rest on one, than on two persons : either Lord C. Somerset bore no responsibility, or he ought not to bear any ; between these cases the Gentlemen opposite might choose.— ' it was said that no saving could be effected by the measure he proposed, as the present soiary could not be reduced ii the offices were vested in one person ; but the salaries of the Deptries might be added to that of the Right Honeurahie Geutlernan opposite (Mr.. Long), who would then have £3OOO per an num. and the RAMP a-year to Lord C. Somerset would be saved. But at was not on the ground of ceconumy that he proposed . the measure, but because the office in question was a Parliamentary place, for which tile_ pkasessor did nothing but receive the iIi2(XX) a4year. He had been told by a Noble Lord opposite, to look at the Sinecure Biil, which was to abolish this pl ice, and the Noble Lord had answered himself by voting against that Bill. The Bill id question had passed that House, but would never become a law. reasons tor thineing so was, that it was cc!". good --(41 iaug4)--it v,ouici destroy; if passed, too much Paihaineatary provender—too many offices of agents, laid Hirs.i.ds in the West Indies and elsewhere—all vary g od things for Members of Parliament.— (Hear, he.:r.) The Bill was a Place Bill, and one of ( such all extent as never had been passed (luting the last lIU years, without a hard struggle. (Hear, hear.) • L'he only way to abolish such a mass of places, was by singling out certain offices which were of no use, and bringing them under discussion. The advan tages of this mode of proceeding he should shew by reference to the present case. Any reasonable man looking at the name of Lord C. Somerset, and the £2UOO a-year against it, and seeing that he was a General Officer, would say--“ Oh I he has been at the B.4ttle of Salamanca or Barrosa, or some other place, where he has distinguished himself, and for this they have given him this £2OOO a.year."-- (Hear, hear.) But he (Mr. Creevey) would say that Lord C. Somerset . had never been abroad, that he was Commander of the Sussex District to defend the coast against the enemy. 44 Well, and I suppose he is paid nothing for that." laugh.) 44 Oh, yes, (he should say) he has a-day, with a large sum whenever he wishes to take an excursion to secure the coast against the enemy ; fifteen or sixteen horses for chine and purru:t ! if the enemy should land. He has xwoo a-year for performing the duties of an office he never sees, and £3OOO a-year for defending the coast of Sussex, while he is constantly in this House." (A laugh.) The Noble Lord, then, it would be said, receives £`2o 00 a-year for nothing.— , Not entirely so. The Noble Lord is on e o f a great family, who, by the natural influence of large pro petty, have considerable weight in elections, and who happen to think precisely as the Ministers do on al most all subjects. (A laugh.) Tll2 influence of the Cr.,wn was so increased, that unless some such mea sures as that now proposed should be adopted, we might expect to see always what we saw now, that millions in supply would be voted away as easily as, thousands were formerly. He then moved his Re. solutions : Ist. That Lord C. Somerset is Joint-Paymaster of the Fords, and a Lieutenant-Central in the Army. 2d. That a Select Committee had pronounced the office of Joint-Paymaster to be one that should be abolished. 31 '1 hat the House do agree with such Report, and that the office should be abolished. On the first Resolution being put from the Chair, Mr. LONG rose and observed, that the Hon. Gen tleman had advanced no additions; reason why tne House should now do what it retused to do three weeks ago. Besides, as the Sinecure Bill had n 0.% passed, and was before the Lords, it seemed absur,' now to propose a measure which was one of the ob jects of that Bill, until at least that Bill should be re• jeered. But he was ready to meet the Resolution on other grounds ; the 14bours of the office of Pap naster had increased exceedingly., while the emoluments re.. mained the same. Mr. Burke had, many years ago, fixed the salary at "OW, and a Committee, over which the present Speaker presided, had determined that the salary ought not to he diminished ; yet now, when the business of the office was multiplied four fold, it was sought to reduce its emoluments. He had never stated, that he received no assistance front Lord C. Somerset ; on the contrary, he always com municated to him every measure of importance.-- [Here Mr. Whitbread smiled.J—The Hun. Gentle man smiled; yet if be knew the excellent understand ing of the Noble Lord, he would set a higher Appn elation on his services. Mr. WESTERN thought the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman was calculated to support the prehe.r. motion. He had on a former occasion declared ti joint-office to be unnecessary, and now expressed a jealousy of communicating his principal plan of wa nagement to his Colleague. A Select Committee had likewise pronounced the office to be superfluous; and in justice to that Committee, and-to the feelings of the country, the present proposition should be adopted. If they acted otherwise, it would he to make a moc kery of their Committees. The perseverance of h;• Hon. Friend deserved the applause of the Home. Mr. LONG said a few words in oplanation. Mr. CALCRAFT said, he should vote against motion of his Hon. Friend, not from an opinion it was cot founded in fact, but because the office wat, one of those which was expressly enumerated in a Bill that had passed that House, and was now before the: Lords, as one of those which ought to be abo lished : he therefore thought the mo.ion was, at pre sent unnecessary. Mr. HUSKISSON objected to it on the same ground. He said the Hon. Gentleman who brenght it forward assurnad that the Bill just before alluded to by the last speaker, would not pass the Lords ; but he (Mr. H.) thought such an assumption was not warrantable. He could not tell what reason the Ho nourable Gentleman might have for his assumption, but he thought it would be reasonable and right in that House to suppose always that any Bill sent fram them would be most likely to pass in the Lords. At any rate he hoped, from what his Right Friend (Mr. Long) had stated, that if the office should not be abolished, it would be consolidated. His' Right Ho nourable Friend, in speaking on this subject, had given it as his opinion, that it would not be a measure of economy ; but the House should recollect it was one of those to which the attention of the House had been called by the Crown itself as among the matters of economy; and he (Mr. H.) was of opinion, that if properly managed in any future regu l ation, it might be made such It was certainly deserving the conti nued attention of the House, though he did not con• ceive there was a necessity for the present omits at this particular moment. Mr. WHITBREAD said, he so far differed from the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, that be was not at all surprised his Hon. Friend should have again brought on his Motion, from despairing as he clid that the Bill lately sent tip from that House would pass the House of Lords. He believed :as Hon. Friend was not the only one who entertained that ipiiaion; and as he had the measure very much as heart, it was very natural for him to pursue the plan he had now adopted. He hoped, however, while he did not exactly agree in opinion with his Hon. Friend on the point of pressing the motion at this exact mo ment, he should be able to prevail with him to give it op for the present. He believed there was no ra tional and impartial man, who did not perceive that this office had originally been split into two, for the purpose of increasing Parliamentary interest ; and many of those who now objected to proceed by Ad dress at present, still thougot that should be done if the Lnrd s rejected the Bill now before th em. If his Hon. Friend persisted in - his present motion, and it should he negatived, he would not be able to bring it forward again during the present Session. ifs therefore hoped his Hon. Friend would no: .6 throw away his shot," but would reserve it for afuture occa sion, when lie might be able to m Ate it t.• 11 more effectually. He would, therefore, advise hart to with draw his present motion ; and then, if the Bill now before the Lords should be rejected, he would have it in his power to bring it forward again towards the close of the Session, when he ( Mr. W.) had not a doubt it would receive the support of many Hon. Members, who now opposed it from tne same motives as those assigned by the two Gentlemen who spoke last before him. Mr. CREEVEY said, that in conformity to, and acquiescence in, the opinion of his Hon. Friend who had just sat down, he would. with the leave of the House, withdraw his present motion. In the mean time he would watch the Bill, so often alluded to, during its progress through the Lords. The motion was then allowed to be withdrawn. TIM BANKRUPT LAWS. Mr. LOCK HA ItT;;;;;;c bring forward his mo tion on the subject of the Bankrupt Laws. He per fectly agreed in the excellency of the principle of our Bankrupt Laws ; but still, in his opinion, they called for some revisions, as the benefits conferred on bank rupts were such as to induce many persons to exert themselves to get within their operations ; since it was not only the industrious and unfortunate trades man who was entitled to the benefit of those statutes, but also the most profligate and dishonest part ot mankind ; he therefore thought it should be more clearly defined what sort of persons should have the benefit of these laws. He was fully persuaded, that the almost indiscriminate grant of the certificate to all descriptions ot persons, was a great encour .gemeat of extravagant profligacy, and in shr.rt of a ufr•it trend upon the creditor. To remedy this evil, h. thought the examination of the bankrupt should be differently conducted to what it is ; inquiry so iuld he . made as to the manne r in whi c h h e h a d li ve d ; and it it should appear that he had lived es ni spoliator of his creditors, n. t only should he not have the bank rupts' allowanc-, but he should also be refusea his cer ficate; if on the .•.intrary, it should appear that iiisti..ok ruptcy was the result ot unavoidao:e misfortune, n.* only should he lave his certificate, but he bnoull also have a certificate of honesty, and the Bank. upt's al lowance should be increased. The Honourable Gil tleman then proceeded to state, in his .qesit•n. the laws as Ohl at present stood, tended to encourage .raud ; fictitious debts wire set ir k ), and tt a udly doc- Kets were struck, and t•ther species frauJ were practised ; and to show the trivia of this as.ertion, he read .an extract frow Air. Gurney's speech on the