Star. — London, England, 1806-03-04 00:00:00

• • „ et • * "C. 4 I - 014 . 4• 3 • • •• • • • „car • • •,. N 40 • 0,1 . Num% 5339 I 4 TUESDAY; MARCH 44 ISc6.. ..._ ." • , ORATORIOS. , , hard fend, hauled to the W. .N. W. and in ad reefs, • Tithe Twit RO YAL , COVENT-BARDEN. . Pulo Cecir de Mer E. S. E. aS. f wen leagu es wet 'TV-MORROW. WEDNESDAY, M RCH .5 a e • •A• irm be painemed the Sacred Oratorio q • ' extreme dale find on the coart Cochin Chine , ca lled THE. MESSIAH. the Jatow Mountain, which then looked like an Wand s •. • Cassporeiby 0 ' , MANDEL. • . . bore weft sold the opening or entrance to Padran t ' Rad d'art I. &Widest!** Concerts ea Use Grant Plow lbws at the back of Palo Ceeir de Terre, bore N. t 7 E. _, ~t.i I*. Naar;.. lounded as going to the weftward, from 7to 84, 9 trumap4L VOCAL PERFORMERS, SIGNOR* STORAGE, and 13 fathoms for two miles, and again. Ihoaled as Mrs.JIAL.I4OII. Ms BLAND. going to S. W. from 13 to 7 fathoms, then deepened gSAHA tincITIREI .. . '215.bir..ri11.Mr.1114 11. 41i, sod Mr. noirti. t i h s e 9 re7o n r d e l e i ;ten g ri tre or l ti fa k t m ho il l n . in eve e ry ili el 3 i 2 r i ee r l i t t ; i 1,,n eras Band, Mr Maier: Oriss.ek I. Aral. ay. and very dan trout as the tea is not difooloured.— ' The SAND ink C.I4ORDSSILS, ( when en nenierese and cent. . • A ' •• •• •• I - • plata) bytkninalt approved Pola ri ties. ' The (hops a m il e wets or us h ad 18 fath3ms. ststart- Pbeesfersisalliosillblatakas elMr.Preaknos tne Box Mice rude, deduced Cram ours at noon, is to. 42. to -to. In Hartkert,Blo7: is t t upe s er 3o n e :a Ocbc y k an s. d . tolyeain pee r 3 8. N. and 6 t or th ere abouts. by good chronometers, toe. 46. . T T TTTT T TT T 07 . • LITTIM FROI• Mt M•JIIIITY'll SNIP 1 t' ad ad °saurus, tanunn , 12, 1805. \ " It is with extreme regret I inform yea, that oa the toth infiant. at half part one o'clock. P. M. in lat. to. es. N. long. tot.. f 7. E. while in the ea oilseed ing' his Majelly s 4 fittp Cillarttra greet on a &cud called Vaa Holland; garden, hating/as the time about 23 feet water. The violence oFtbe dwock was fuch, that Ote has Mt them, I fear, moll fetterely in every timber of her frame. For Ike truck fo heavy. I had no other expeelation but hut at Moil have toed, and her malls g'ne by the beard. It was ..: freGs as the time from the N. ?LE." argued, .---7-7 -7 ;1 -:-7 i s " t that the app int ment of that bit ; out op a lest in the Cabinet was illegel. It Mr All vWM no; illegal. He could not contend, either, that it was uncontlitutional ; but he .rote to Owe, that. at o though the appointment was tru contrary to the law or 'the Conllitution," yet that there exiftedreafons which made it unadrifisble.ot inexpedient. ,Tare teas ' lons which weighed upon his mind were Of a dehcate °attire. It was not enough that the ad.ndoilii At o m of jtillice fuould be ptrfeffly free. and aninflueneed by Government I, it was not enough that it Ibould be pore, but it fh iuld alfn be beyond the reac h o f lapicion ; and to elercifed as to give peefedfatisfac. lion ta all his Majefty's fstlifes. These were many analogies and precedents .agairdt the 'inking the func tions of Chief Police with a feat Ls the Cabinet.— Although. in order to thew t ha t it had been before united, the folitary i.iftance of Lord Mansfield ostgha be prged, yet it mull an be re: •Ileeled, how e it tremely uopotmlar that N iliVe and eminent pains becameCheate bad 1171 : 1' 411 , 14 flatiorn, and ho/ • that unflopularity bong to :sins fist the greater p lof his life. Perhaps it w.ss an ill founded ;maim which exited in the Minds of the public, but Rill 1 wasfufficient to weaken the confidence they ought to place in the judicial chart ter. For his part, he wge fo well acquai n ted with she Noble. and. Learned Lord; that he felt petfonally the norodt confidence that it .would not in any decree aff:Cl the purity es( .thp , adminitlration of jullice, if Lin d Ellenboroogb had p feat in. the Cabinet. it was not for his foistadios, of for the fathfadion of thole who had an oppottuni ty of koowiog Asa appreciating the integ,rial . am' worth of that . mble Lord, bat 'it was for the general.. latisfaaion of the Nation at Air, that he thought that the Chief Jalice ought 00t to have a feat in the Cabinet. He utterly &owned Mul l dif. claimed every idea of the appointment being either illegal or unconilitntimal, but. Rill lie thought the . inexpediency . of it fet groat, that he hoped, when the Noble Lord refleaed on it; he would net himfelf wilts to retain .his feat in the Cabinet. Whea he bimfelf had often been couhilted in examinations about (edition and treafon, iie fhoold have felt that it would not be proper for. him to fit as jostle to try thole perform whole profieutions he rig.it have ad. riled. It might be Paid; that it might be fo arranged that either the chief Jultice a old not attend the Cabinet. when queftions were to be agitated which might afterwards tome before him for trial, or, if he had attended it, he . mht RV aWor,reolitbe Court of King's Bald), and leave the trial to others When be was appointed a Cabinet Minilier, tt however be came his duty to attend, and it was a duty Rill Rronger for him to attend his Court, for the Cubic& of this land had a sight to the alliance of the Lord Chief inflict in . the adminihration of jußiee. Al "oagh in the profecutions he hid before alluded to, genies, not againtl 'any particaar 'Mad. Afte9 essamat o -ban-went to ooensfini g lit _rovertun zr, yet he might (offer a calk, - whers Cabinet Council might think it proper to profecnte fome libel againß the t3overnment, or in plain Eng. lilts, againfl the ineafares of the perfons compofing the A.drainiaration. Were fetch a cafe to occur, be std not think it pofEble that the parties accufed mid be fatisfied of the fairnefs of their trial, if the Judge who was to try them was a member of that Csbinat which had ordered the profecutiOn.. The qtseßion was not, whether thole who knew the Noble Lied, as bit did, would not feel a peace fecurity in his integrity! it was, whether the people at large would feel than. (elves as fate as if precedents an 4 analogic' bad bean followed ? It might be faid that Lord Chief Jollies Eire had tried thofe perfons upon whore cafe he bad been previoully informed and confulted, he by OD i means confidered that as among the moll honourable parts of the life of Lard Chief Plaice Eyre. He had hintfelf been conneded wilt Lord Ellenborough for . near thirty years. h r the flame! ft iendfhip, and if ever lie could fuppofe that this perfonal friendlhip could be at all weakened by any thing which be had Paid that night, he Ilil, felt himfelf fo itiongly impelled by a fenfe of duty, that he cistld not avoid liming his fentiments. He thought the inexpediency fo great and fo (biking, that he felt it hi d duty to Rate it.— Had he been in the fituition of Lord Chief Jolliet, I and was offered a feat in the Cabinet, he &mild, pro bably, have accepted of it, but ohs n he fhould have heard the obje lions that have been now urged, he would have religled it. Ile thought that the bell way of difpofing of the quertion was, to leave it to the .confideration of the Noble Lord amfelf, and he was convinced the relul' would be more fatisfadory both , to his own feelings and to thole of the public. Lord CARLISLE ohkded to the time that this motion was brought forward. He thought it would appear to call a CellillfC on an Adminillration that deferved the confidence of the public, and to whom that confidence was neceffary, to accomplilh the great objet for which fetch a mats of talents and public virtue had been united in the prefent Adminifiration. The motion went to Crlllit a laical ion of alarm among the people which might he prejuditial, and which could be of no fervice. There was 110 doubt but his blajetty had, by the Conllitution, a right of afking the advice of any Privy Councillor on the affairs of the State. The fame argument that went againfk allowing the Chief Jußice to fit in the Cabinet, would silo prevent a Judge from being a Privy Councillor. If fetch innovations were made, the next Rep might be to lay , that Arehbahop , , or Bail's, ought not to have a feat in that Houle. When loch a zeal for re. formation took place, it would be argued next, that no Judge ought to try a caufe in which he loft been retained as Counfel ; or that a Peer i,r . Parliament fhoold not fit in his jstrisdal capacity up,m any trial or impeachment, of which he hid heard any thing as aPs ivy CouociUor. He could not tee how she, ap. ' ,ointment could he an ten of Poch a preffito, nature, as to be worth at all agitating the public mind about, at the prefent moment; sod hy thought it evident, hat, unlefs the Houle, and the country at large, went with the prelim Adminiftration, they would not have it in their power to do much good. the principles of the Coralitution were not fo shell r obfetved then as they have been of late years, and that that Noble Lord oink the earliea opportunity. he could of cropping froM the odium attached to his Appointment. ( His Lordthip here referred to the conduit of Lords Eldon and Rofslyn, who, while they filled the fituation of Chief Juflice of the Com mon Pleas, though intimately conneded with the ad ministration, never were admitted to a flat in the Cabinet.) He lamented that fo facred a principle of the Conßitution did not meet with equal reverence on the prefent occafion ; and that the important of five of a Judge was not kept as diaind from that of a re4mnlible advifer of his Malefic, as it always, ex cept in one infiance, had been. If this crying evil had not tonic faltitat y check put td is, the flatutes of William IJI. which went to provide for the integrity and independence of the Judges, would he a dead Attlee. In the whole fyflem ot Rate policy, he wa• perfuaded there was n.: principle upon which there Am& general! *concurrence as-that which prohibit ed thatahe office of Judge aid fervent of the Crown lould be identified in the fame perfon. He would be told, perhaps, there could be no danger in calling lan able and uptight Judge to the office of one nf, his . Majetly's refponlible advifers ; that it WAi net likely Iht would abufe fo high a null. Perhaps nut ;—bur he wiled to have better from ity for the liver, and li berties of his countrymen than the difcretion of troy mortal breathing. Venerating the Conflitution as he did,' thinking it the moll admirable ()Item that human wifdom had ever framed for the happinefs of mankind, it was his earnest with that they, who admi nitiered the Continution should be exempt not only from fafpicion, but that they !tumid go down to their Courts exempt from the poffibility of being influen• ced, or ading under the feelings of their affociates in office. He wished to fee that glorious principle re commended is the fpeech from the throne, at the commencement of the prefent reign, preferved in its utmod purity. The independence and integrity of the Judges were among the chief. bulwarka of the Conititution. and it was to preferve and arengthen theft that he thould propofe that their Lordihips amid adopt the refolution which he would then read. The Noble Earl then molted in fubllance,— " That it was expedient for the due administration ofjulitee, that none of the Common, Law Judges mould be Members of the Cabinet Council." Lord ST. JOHN role to trouble their Lordlips with a few words. He hid to return thanks to the Noble Earl for having brought the &Need forward. He could Apt, he could allure him, have taken a Rep more agreeable to his Moistly's. Minifferi• He was aware that the appointment which produced the prefent motion had, fomehow or other, created great apprehenlion in the public mind„which he trolled the ,difeuffinn which it would undergo that night, would completely remove. So,confident did 110 . 1e1 that rich appribeollon was wboily grouudiale, obey be was not without hopes, after the queftioa bad been fully debatitel, the Noble Earl who introdneed it would either withdraw bis motion, or , give a dire& negative to it. The Noble Earl had Rated, that he could find but one inflance of ,fuch an appointment; bat before he fat down, he would bring many pre cedents to his recollection. The queftion was one of an abflrad nature; it did not Rate that any evil had arifen, but that evil might arife. lo the prefent Mu ation of Europe and the country, their Lordfhips time in his opinion might be better employed than in difcuffing abarad queitiobs or priociptes.. The Noble Earl had addu:ed a quotation from Blackfinne upon which he (reined to lay great (kids, but i: is not in the opinions of that Judge, able as he would acknow ledge him to have been, that he would look for the Conflittition, but in the Statute Book, and the writ- I ten letter of the law. Much as he wet averfe to dif cols abltrad cpieltions, which fetclom led to anyprac tisal conclufion, he would, with the leave of the Houle, confider the minion lumewhat at large. ,And first he would appeal ,to the opinion of that great law yer, Sir Edward Coke, who had laid it down that the Judges of the land, and particularly the Chief , Jußices of either ench, rnight be called to his Ma• jelly's Councils. Again, the Statute of the 4th of Edward 111. di.teribed his gaiety's Council as corn poled, of the Lord Treafurer, Lord Chamberlain, and Chief Juilice of either Bench. An Ad of Henry VIII. alto mentioned the Chief Jußices a. belonging to his Majelly's Council. His Lordlhip quoted a variety of other inflences, in which the Chief jtiflices had either been included in the liiis of Lord Justices upon the appointment of regencies, or as having been called to :he deliberations of the Pri iy Council. Among the latter was that of Lord Chief 'office Lee, in 5746, upon cireumflances con. neared with the rebellion, in the preceding year, and of Lind,Loughboi ough, in i 789. It the principle, which, the Noble Earl c intended fur, was admitted, the whol e contlitution of the King's Bench mull, of neceffity, undergo an alteration. His Lorilhip ar gued againit the motion from analogy, and instanced the candtiel of Magißiates in the Commifli ni of the Peace, who daily take examinations, commit offen ders, and afterwards attended officially at their trials. He had many other arguments to offer in fupport of the appointment, which was the fubjed of the motion; but as many other Noble Lords were, nn doubt, anxious to deliver their opinions, he would no longer trefpafs upon the indulgence of the Houle. Lord ELDON, OH Clitel ing ;tau the confideration of this question, ditcleimed ti, idea that it was a queßion reipeding any individual, nr any aiimini- Motion. He coolidered is as a question of notch fuperior importance, as relating to the adminiftration of jußice in this country. He felt the highest re. fped and veneration for the Nible and Learned Lord (Lord Ellenhotough) whim he then few in hi= place; and it would give him the gieetett paio it it were fop. poled, that the obtet rations he Should make proceed ed from any perfonal difrefped ; fo far from it, it was in order to e.sprefs his railed for that Noble Lord ' that lie was induced to attend upon this oceefion.— Ile did trot mean to contend, nor could he hear it . . VANDON - pailiDsti% MARCH 4. igismordigswit Day 4T Cala Qt. Loc.g $ ruUrfo—.let ASellifssit iPa unbowed Teßerday that the Prince Char lotte pease arrived at Falmouth from Tortola in ihlrtY•tive days, had left Adluiral tioCawortm's NOW*: at Si. ; chid that at that time• no .Preoeb iquacirois bad arrived in thole fees. We can' now Rlte, lipwaVer, that Government has received istforMatieth by an Auseritaavelfel, which Wes, iliac bti latter had fallen in with si friuldron of eight (hips eche gad. within a few hours fail of the latitude in h', ;which Admiral liuctwoarn was left by the snail licersuat. From this circotallatice It is hoped that • the (spladron teen by the American was the French Beet, as it did not correfpond with the force under Air J. Ducswoarts. If this-he the cafe there is tea ,a Cori io hope a good account of them will Coon be girth, as Admiral Dracrwoivn, particularly :when • pitted by Admiral Coe'weair, would be ah over ' match for them. • Fears had been entertained that the fquadron of - which Sir J. thrceworril was in quelt had efcaped. and irass gone to the Ealt Indies. P4RLIAMSTITiiRr HOUSE OF LORDS, MONDAY, MARCH g. JUDO. WOE. The Marquis of ABERCORN,fifter hiving Rated* ealtdder • able length the proceedings whkh bad taken Owe relpediag the Trial of Judge Fox, and forcibly urged the netelity of continuing in the faint GOOK; MOW', that th eir LeedAyis Ronk! be hums mooed for the etch of April. Lprd GRENVILLE fate, that it had bees bog koprelliod apes his mind, that every Rep wbkh bad been takes is des bands ivas uneoultituticath and Is tide be was 114.1111114 by deep re. knelt and laborious itivielligatieethto tb:=The eddy mud. tion,the tboaght, which deferred to be sew hew die Hoare could break of in the prefect Retied the He would not it prefent °prig the shatinthbut be be p si se be as. deritood, as not being precluded hi Ide iwt from weft k hereafter, oe brl~orkeerdealllailes pumpalbet Mediu to b. Lord AUCKWAD laassuad tlrt esp lip bad ever bees taken In the bean fie Melia his peat* le a linser Salim againft every Oleg diet When dunk it. sad he billeved there was no one vibe heard Mr. who M wet heartily Ida that It was out of the Houk, or rather that It bad serer got into It. Lord fiIeViILISBURT obibreoll. Het, from she castnesse• swot, be peeteind the coeds of preessisj adiptedik the Hoek weellable a spey greet rifeediem liswerese. *Hwy pee to tar, be thought it was sew :dm t• dole to proceed. It was alto due to the eleteder Ode to have the charges preferred aging hies • The Zed of BUCHR4 MI. thee it be eseßß qty wild, hq theeskt himiabileelsA se lope* the futpeades. Bo mush pehlieby bed bees Oval es die dreesee t tliat err wit IT combeut e ma s i a i tieuk.to premed • . • *. , • 1,1. • 41' SHCILISONAdteId rodairra. Mei the pretending • eat have podebroeelsilfdß,ftbdos awsia. Re walillalmbityliot to tRe Z • • • . • The esm wan wee a toes► a Atm dM Waist., • urban tie Chia wise rtadaead this the Cerium me it. comb it.i.sraottpooK. The Order of the Day, " that their Lordibips be funimened," haling been read, The Earl of BRISTOL rote for the purpolk of' ' fubmittiiag to their Lordlliips the motion of which he had given arnica.. He entreated, thofe who Were preterit to .believe, that he was act uated by no hof tile intention towards the Goiernment in what he Mould propofe. He fhonld be forry if there was any one who heard him who could confider the quef. tion 44 brought forirard originating in party views. lie was as well affeEted to the Adminiftration, as any Noble Lord in that Haute, not immediately con neele4 with them, could be. In the prefent circom. (lances of Europe, every one of their Lordlhips would acknowledge the neceffity of a firong and united Adminiftration. The motion which he fhonid fubmit to their Lordfhipa would, if adopted, have, he was iterfaaded, a greet effea in rendering the Govern ment as popular as h deft:Tate be frond the talents and confideration which coritpofed it. With refped to the guellion itfelf, the mare it Was confidered, the more it would be found not only unwarranted bf pre- cedents. but he would contend direaly in oppotititon to tire bell principle of the Conflitution. He was aware of the difficulty of prefgng the fubjedt, without incurring the imputation of entertaining pdrforial oblations to the Noble Perfon whore appoidtment gave rife to the motion he fhnuld male. But he difcltimed for hiinfelf, and he was fure their Lord. (hips would do hint the t juitice to believe him, any loch partial or unworth motives. He had as high a refpedt as any one o heard hint. for the inte grity, the talents, and the information of that Noble and Learned Lord. He had no obicaion to his be longing to thi great body of the Privy Cotincil, but it was the dole connedlion, the affectation, between a Judge and the Ministers of thd Crovin ' that he difliked. It was this attempt to blend and amafga• mate two charalters perfealy diflina id themfelves, he meant thofe of a Judge and a Minister, to which • he objeaed. Since this appointrdent of the Chief Juitice of the King's Bench to a feat in the Cabinet had taken place; he had devoted much of his atten tion to the fubJedt, and In the cdnrfe of his refearches he was able to find but one tingle folitary inflance of a common Law Judge having ever befrire been a CaLincr Minitter. It might be objetted to him, that the perfnn who held the Seals was a .Indge N itnd that the pr:priety of his having a Rat in the Cabinet was never questioned. But the cafe was different ' .--the Chancellor flood upon quite other ground. He wa s a great political fervent of the Crown, and although the property of the (obit& often came udder hi: de. ciflon, yet it never extended to his lifefor liberty.— ' He mull again imprefs upon the Honfe, that from the time of the Revolution down to the prefent day, there was but one infiance of a common Law Judge having a feat in the Cabinet, and taking a habitual part in advifing his Majesty. (The infiance alluded to, we believe, was that of Lord Mansfield.) lie would no farther refer to that folitary prccident, than to fay, that much coyftery hung over it, Ilia; ' Tt is nit Yek decided itho•is to go out as Govetnic to the Cape of Good Hope ; but it is repotted that ' General Since's, who formerly commanded at 'St. ' DeriniagO, goes bow start Cs Commander ii Chief of that attlemkat. •• * Sir Davin Eaten, it is fold, WM proceed to India ~.' Commander in Chief, vire Lord Lila, who co ''' ' bonus with an immeafe.forftine. i ts On account of - the great mortality in the . ' /oaks, skid thee General Officer* haling lately been • tapuired on their paffagi thither, feveral General . Ofiteers• are immediately to Proeced to that quartir, , nacre our affairs Might otherwire be in a very ClitiCal Bumeion, should the Fres& Illesied in fending oil tnotitei eipedition: . General Honosos has been fall appointed ~ lover nor of the ifland of Bermuda, and is imam diemir to I fad for the Weft Indies. ) Potvsmoutn, Maim', 3.—Arrived the Name ,:. coop from a cruize I Mary, MASISY, from Water ford, with butter, &c. and the Margaret, CLaat, ftom Sunderland, with coals. Sailed the Thitsaosa gun brig rat a croite. The AaAPIANT, Capt. SriLll6 came up frost St. Helen's today and was paid, aid ~ dropped down again Immediately to join the Taft India (hips, which the takes under ber convoy, and . with which the will fail the moment the wind is fair: The Cunt airs frigate, Capt. Sicily, is fitting for the • Well Indies, and is expeeted to take out the (hips now collecting, and which are receiving inftrutlions from the Anfon. Drat., MARCH 3.—Put back laft night, the Fury bomb and convoy, which failed from the Downs on ;he 11l infant, (except the Lord Nelfon, Fame,Wal. fhamitow, and Afia Kali Indiamen, and feveral Ame rican relicts, which kept out), and failed again this morning, with a large fleet of outward bound id fels, cos il ers, colliers, and ttanfports, having on board part of the King's German Legion, under convoy, for Portfmouth. Arrived the Humber armed (hip, with a convoy from Falmouth, which remain in the Downs, with the reit tithe chips as per Jail ; Indefa gable, WSIR. from Jamaica, and feveral other ant ward bound verels ; alto the Mary Ann. HAMMOND, from Litbon, in fifteen days. The Devallation bomb Las a fignal flyittg for a convoy, to 'the Weßwatd ; and the Ekon gun brig a fignal for a convoy to ihe 1 Northward. 'Arrived the Sea Gull !loop, with the lots of her fore and main top malls, which the Car• tied away in figale.—Wind N. EAST INDIA SHIPPING. WHALERS •RRITID •T ST. MELINA : 04 the lith Jan. The Adventure a ith Perfeveranee and Elliott bound to Londr.h. 17th Lively 18th Ranger Isith Brothers, Wm. Perry, from the coati of Drain. bound to London: In the pafrage from Macao the China (hips took the inner pallage between the Paracells and the coati of Cochin. Thi, n:vcr has been laid down in any chart with pei fat accuracy, and feveral veffels touched the lima! near I'ulo Cecir de Mer. We are happy to extran from the Madras Gazette the fol lowing articles, which may be of fervice to our feu. faring Readers : 22222 CT 111.0 M THI LOG *OCR OF HIS MAJISTY'S SNIP C•11.0LINI, THVISDAT, JAN. JO. Ohferved, at one P. M. his Majefly's GRAM* pus, and the Eall India Company's (hip Cantos, making liana's for aniking on a lila, in 6} fathoms, 1, • ~11 tba,o --