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'• • I .s•a:st:' 3 . » fIIAtS ' ..:~:~ N U ti: It na 11):501:. si!" ,- • .. • -, .. OtTOBE4.*'-IT2O. FRIDAY. t . , . • . ~,... - . CE VB. • ADELI 4 III.-TIIV.4Tak' B 1 A 1 0041 of • 9 14104 * ' iTHIS PitESENT :EVENIN6 • • r. 20, WV, „L. and tpmorrow,will be presosted, as entirely tiew.Setittish'' 3100-Dramatic Burl ,tta, entitled ' • SIT. ctrni DERTS ; or Tsz Tosia 'or Soarturit. With a new Comic and Borleique iiallet, called • OPPOSITION; or. Tits RIVAL DANCUM.MASTIZIL BRIDGES, MAYOR. COMMON COUNCIL, holden in the Chamber 4 — li s of the Guildhall of the City of London, on 'Tnuasnay, the 19th day of October, 1820, • rteset.vero,. That the conduct of JOSEPH WILVRIED PARKIN% Esq. during the' time hc.has jointly filled tire important office of Sheriff of London and Middlesex, has been such as in many respects to excite the just displeasure of this Court, and the 'greatest regret at his appointment—that the dignity of the Office has, in his hands, been forgotten, and the Livery of*Lnudon been exposed to animadversion, by his inconsistent and unbe coming behaviour. . In the course of the Bal!et c -4r, Walboura will attempt to convince the audience that lictreiga ! Dancers are by no means Fiptrior to their British 'Competitors,' by sheiving to what an g height native talent may be carried, When a fostering hand is found to raise it'. . . -To conclude with the favourite Barletta of FUN A N D FRIG/1T;, or, Flop 20 0 . 41 M Coasewr. A new Burietta, entitled Knobs and Doses; or, Gaul versus Lavater, is in pr,:paration, and will speedily be produced. ' - RESOLVED UNANIMOUSLY, .That, the Thanks of this Court be presented to Iticu.s.an ROTHWELL, Esq. Alderman, and late one of the Sheriffs of this City, and County of Middlesex, for the dignified, temperate, faithful, and impartial manner in which he has discharged the..various and important duties of the office of Sheriff, rendered mote than usually arduous, not only by the critical state of the public tranquillity, but by circumstances which increased the responsibility necvssatily attendant upon the Shrievalty, at the period of his entering upon it—for the libera. lity which has distinguished his general conduct—and for his •having upon all occasions displayed the most cheerful attention to the Interests of the Corporation, and the Rights and Privi leges of his Fellow- C itizens. ORDERED, That the said Resolution be fairly transcribed, signed by the Town Clerk, and presented to the late Sheriff, Mr. Al-, derman lttrrn WELL. . . WOUDTIIOI3PE. 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Although proved, it did not fellow that he should discharge from his mind, the whole body of the evidence ; it might affect some parts of the case and not others; and it might not affect the substantial question which the House were to decide. Lord ERSKINE observed, that. the whole question imine. kliately before the House, was this—whether the case in dispute came under that description of case stated in the opinion of the Learned Judges, as competent for a defendant to prove? 'l'he LORD CHANCELLOR thought that the admission of such evidence as that offered by the Counsel for her Majesty, would constitute one of the most novel proceedings ever known in a Court of Justice. If admitted, there might be no end to such evidence ; every man in Italy might be called as a witness. The interests of justice .most be protected by acting on gene ral rules, and if char Lordships were to depart so far -front every known rule of law, as to admit the evidence now tendered, there woula be an end to alt those great protections which were the safeguard of every interest, poblic and private. Lord 11.1:DESDALi.:: followed on the same side. EI:r1 G understaoe the Judges to have said, that evidence of a eor.,idracy t.)luhurn witnesses might be admitted; and the whole question far their Lordships to decide was, whether the evidence offered by the Counsel for her Majesty came within that description ? He was of opinion that it did not—that no such codnexion hid been sitewn between Zangli and the agents for the prOsecufion; as would let in evidence as to the declare , dons or sets of Zangla. the LORD CHANCELLOR said, that it appeared to be the stnse of Cue House that the question should not be put. No ti:sw.q.: being expressed, Counsel were recalled, and The LORD CIIANCELLOR stated, that he had it in corn. mand from the House, to inform them that the question ionic' not be put. rise witness ANTONIO Mzosa was row recalled to the bar, and ea:donned by Ills: Wiliam's. You stated yesterday, that you went with Prigia (row Vela* to Milan?--1 did.• •Did you return witla Zangla to Venice?—Yes. - How many days were you at Milan ?—TwO days. What is the distance from Milan to Venice?—One hundred .and eighty-five miles. Did you pay your own expenses, or did any one pay the for. you?-1 did not pay even one hundredth part of a livre; Zangla paid the whole. Had yob any holiness uf your own at Milan ?—No. Had Zangla any as a SL.ge Manager or otherwise? : Nona jh went oily fur this object. • What do ydu mean by Lips object? The ATTOUNLY-Gsrantsr, objected to the question. Mr. BROUGHAM said that they only wanted to know; what the witness meant by certain words he had used. Ile had ne ver before heard such an explanation objected N. The LORD CIJANCELLOiI said, that perhaps the ques tion could be 'put in a shape which woold leave no room for ob jection. :11r. Wu.t.t.aus said, he would endeavour to do so. To tiAc witness.--r Did you see Zangla do anything else than go to the Porto Orientale and the Rue Gabilo?—lie went also to look after a person of the name of lmberti, a sort of second Manager of the Theatre. You told Its, yesterday, you saw Zangla come down stairs from Colonel tirown with a unnitser of Napoloans in his hand ? —Yes, I di& AT that time, did he'make,ycit any offer? . • • The AvroaNii.Gaztritai. sobjettCd to the question ; it was to . . ---: . . r . • - . • I the very same purpose as that which their Lordships had just The Someiroi-Geozam. wished us know upon what grounds 1 - decided should not' be jut. . as not of Tiltheerli,ooußseDthCar tAheNCTEieLstLioonß.m—arltbeapppueta,rstotoairbeectthtehoeptitesionti. - . the questtott was to be put. Mr. Wn.u.kais.—lt is a question as to a fact. •.- . - The Soetcrrow•Getizaete—Aud we object to chit fade s relevant. _ .. many of Sacehi, (hear, hear.) The LORI) CHANCELLOR.,--I must confess it &soap- Lord LAUDERDALE said, it was most necessary to know peer to ineter be-the same question as time last rejected. -•a _,.- . •' distinctly the grounds. . Mr. BaouGnAm.--Ani I thep to understand that the decision The LORD CHANCELLOR said, his opiriion was, that the • of your Lordships is to apply to all other evidence that we may agency hod not been proved, and t h e the declarations of dm wit have ready to adduce of similar offers having been made to ness could not be heard without at the same time deo:neat-ft g suborn and bribe. • o . to call Saccht hanself.. The LORD .CHAIsICEL4OIL—Mr. Brost h it would, Lord ERSKINE said, that if he could prove that a witntss be Infinitely too daring fot the .House tblive rto yithr endeavoured to corrupt others, it was not his declarations he question. The House can only decide (initial q 6 &tit arisen'. was about to prove, but his acts. Mr. Baoupnew.-We can tender no.other ki f evidence Lord GRENVILi A said, that as the question of the agency that can bring the ;gee .of' conspiracy • nearer. to the 'Milan of Sacchi had been disposed of, it might be desirable to ask the Commission than that - which your • Lordships are pleased to Comsel on both sides if there were any other grounds on whiele reject. We have not . Itastelli to 11 rodece, we have not lie- they wished to argue the question ? ganti to produce; we have no means of comnelling'thcir appear- , Counsel were don celled in.. • • ante. AU that we can do we are ready emale i but yone-Lord- The Arsoesser-Gennatte objected to the admission of evi. ships seem to say, that all weeecanduris of no.aveil. I tinder- dente which was brought forward to impeach the testimony of stand your Lordships to be of opinion, that the ceiling- on Sacchi, in the way it was now attempted toile. done. They • Colonel Brown, the bringing out of money from him, and might impeesh his evidence either by oroving that it weecontra shewing that money, as a bribe 'received to bear evidence dictofy, or by producing witnkses Who would declare thefts. • against her 11fejeste e are circumstances not sufficieet to was not to be believed on•hi s o a t h. • connect thslifidbery with ffte - agents of the7Milan Commission: MY. Reece folldwed on the samsside, and quoted. Philips on If so, I can only say that you cut thus the clue of our the Law of Evidence in support of his argument. The Cour.sel easel .we can, situated ao.we are, Itattelli heingwidadrawn from on the other side had propos e d t o crientnete the witness Sleshi, . us, and Reganti beyond our reach, produce no stronger Lei- without having previously askedlim any question respecting dance thanwee have tendered, and your Lordships have rejected. that transaction which is to be grade the foundation of a criminal If such is the decition your Lordships have . come to, thep we charge : and when he had no means of knowing it, or defend not carry faither the line of evidence on.which we had ing himself against it. ' Mr. Baouottest admitted the general propositions of la* as The LORD CHANCELLOR.—AII I can say, without laid down by the opposite Counsel, and that Its a general rele he i taking the sense of the House on the subject is, that the question could not atteemt to criminate a witness, on facts on which he of calling other witnesses must he left entirely to your own de's- had neglected tocross-examint him; and further that he could not cretion, and lam sure it cannot be left to any better discretion. invalidate his testimony by his. conduct out of this cause. But Mr. Banucitest.—Then we have no further questions to put it was on the conduct of Sacchi in this parrkular cause that he to the witness Meoni. e . • wished to call evidence. But here Sacchi had notice of the The ArroexeyaGewsemt, declined any cross-examination. charges against bins. He came.to their Lordiaips'- Bee as a'wit- By 'Lord LAUDERDALE—When you save' the Napoleons nest, and all his corrupt acts in this business inust be known to in the hand of Zangla, were they loose; in bags, or in paper?— him. This took the partieular case out of tbo general rule, 'And , He bad a handful, and e. large hand he has !—(A laugh). ha would asst, who would believe. a man who; had, in the sense ar , Have you any concern with the Theatre at Pesol—N6 cause, prettied himself a suborn er of perjury?.. Other than that I wrote to her Royal Highness informing— Mr. Demote followed on the *same Sida. It Was one 'of the i Mr. BanuanAlt here interposed; the witness was going to peculiar circumstances of this case, that, in total ignorance of speak to the contents of . a written documeat ; this could not be the list of witnesses to be brought against* her . .eiejestwe her permitted. Counsel coeld neither know. the facts deetoed to, nor the dia. ; Lord LAUDERDALEthought that the whole answer should ratter of the individuals, until perhaps it might be elicited by Ise heard. cross-examination. Hare was a witness, vthe knew much of 1 • Mr. Bsouestex said that he had interposed exactly at that Sacchi's conduct, and if what he stated Watt net true, tbeh let point whickformcd the confutes between evidence that was ad- Sacehi come, if he dare, .and contradict him. The Learns( miesibk, and evidence that was not. The witness had written, Coensei concluded by submitting to their Lordships, that . there . informing her Royal -Highness. • What he had informed her in was no sound distinction between this question and some that writing, could not be proved by parole testimony. had already been admitted by their Lordships. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that the interposition Mr. Parsec rejoined, and argued the case on Its legal merit s . ... of the Learned Counsel was quite proper. The LORD CHANCELI,OR said it was extremely difficult '. Lord LAUDERDALE—WeII, but the answer of the wit- for him to be called on, day after day, to state what was the Trac e new was no answer to my question. tice in the Courts below, when he bad been so long separated The question was oepeated—Had you any concern with the froin those Courts. He therefore wished, as in former cases, Theatre at Pesaro ?,--'elever. to consult the opinion of the Judges on- the subject, -and he E .By aeord DARNLEY.-- Do you know whether Zangla was proposed that the following question should he 'put to them—. ieveKin the service of the Princess?—l do net. " Whether,in the adnainiStretion of justice in the Courts below . : ,Roauatoo fieovenotte was now celled in, and er,naincd by when a witness for the prosecution had been examined in chi: f, - Mr. Dzsetem. and had not been cross-examined as to any deelarettons he had made relating to his procuring witnesses f o r th e procreation, lam from Treviso. lam Profeesor of Literature, Teacher whether the Counsel for the defence could bring evidence to of- the Italiatiend Latin languages., sad I.reside at Lausanne, irt prove such declaration, without first caning on the winless to , Switzerland. In liill 8 I was at Lausanne, and saw Sacchi. He know if he had ever made such &aeration ?" -held a conversation with me an the subject of.the process_agaiust Earl GREY did not think the law case; cited bore on the her Royal Highness. , present question. liis view of it was this, 'that a avaness was Did he make any application to you pnehisubject? chaged with offering a bribe to a person to procure witnesses, The Astemmor-Geireeer. objected to this question, upon the and - to support, by false and sub ti red evidence, that cease in groend, that the declaration of- Sacchi, given by another person, which he had himself given evidence. Ile thought there was • *pis not admistible under ouch eirounistances e Saechi not having strong ground for admitting the evidence, especially as there bias proved to be an agent. could be Ito doubt of the agency of Sacehi. • f • r• % Mr. Dundee said, his object in asking the question was tp The Earl of LIVERPOOL thought there was a very easy way peeve that Sacchi bad assured the witness that his fortune would of getting ;Id of all the difficulty, without putting the question be made if liegree evidence against the Queen, and of course to to the Judges, or losing the time of their Lordships. There was shew that the evidence of Saccbi against. her Royal II • i g kne " one way in which the question might be rendered admissible, was inadmissible . The agency . of Sacchi had been established and that was, by calling up Sacehi, and re-examining him. by. tit evidence of De Mont and another witness. lie could This, he thought, Was a mode of proceeding. to which there prove that, at LausanneeSacchi performed acts under the Com-' could be no objection, and therefore he submitted to their . Lord mission.—Plr. Denman here read a great part of the evidence ships that Sacchi should be calked to the Bar. of Re Mont and of Saccbi, to prove the employment of Sacehi . The Marquis of LANSDOWN said,. he did rise to object as an agent.] to the proposition of the Noble Lord, • but he did not Dow Actin' Mr. Peace said, the nature of the evidence just quoted was it necessary, since it was the corrupt acts, and not thk declare.' not such as was calculated to establish the agency of Sacchi. The tions of Sacchi, that were now the object of investigatien. • only evidence to prove the agency was, that Sacchi had brought Tie LORD CHANCELLOR enquired of the Counsel oq a witness from Lausanne, and that he had gone to Chagnirz, but both sides if the hadobjection to Sacchi being recalle d to .y • any for what specific.purpose did not appear. No proof had been the bar? .. given that he had been employed by the Commission to collect . Mr. Baoronex.—My Lordathe last time we called fir a wit s evidence generally. • nets he eves not to be found. _ Mr. Mtn ch. said, their Lordships would be guilty of the -. The LORD CHANCELLOR.But if he is to bi•found, worst of blindness, if they would now refuse to open their have you any objection to his being called, and when .do Tole eyes to a conspiracy established for such base purposes.— wish it ? . . • . t t 'n Now, now, My Lord," from both ' • %lr. Baon anolin an d When the Milan Commission was talked of, it was not spoken , of as an abstract question, but as a subject upon which three M r. se y% - _- nsmex. • • ' - • way no doubt. If Sacchi had been found employed by the Lord ERSKINE addressed their Lordships, but in 64 lows Commission, at Latuanne and at Chamim, in the way he tone of voice, that he was inaudible. We understood him to was ready to prove, it was clear that he was the agent of the, suggest addition to the uestion to e proposed to; he .judges, in as great a degree, or indeed in a greater degree, an relative to the admitted ag e ncy of Sac h chi. • than Reganti had been concerned. If then, Sacehi was known The Factor LAUDERDALE denied that accordingto the to be an authorised agent going about. and abusing the autho- strict rule of law, the agency of Sacchi to the Milan 'Centrals rity under which he was acting, could their Lordships refuse sign bad to bear evidence in proof of such vile employment'? If it teas Earl q REY thought, that although the ag ency pro4edmight lawful to inquire into the acts of the Milan Commission, it not be *such as the evict rules of taw require d, apt that such a was surely competent to their Lordships to enquire into the , e _ degree of agency had been shown, as, in the particeilit &cum conduet of the agents of that Commission,Commission, i_n ion, gathering the e..- denceagainst her Royal Highness ? stances of this case, made it a duty in the House to allow the . . The LORD CHANCELLOR asked whether the whole of proposed question to be put. the evidence in proof of the agency of Sacchi was to be found in Lord ERSKINE said, that the question proposed' to be put to' the Judges by the Noble and Learned Lord qn the the part of the minutes alluded to. His object in asking was Wee:area, did not Meet .- his view nf the - case. He e s Lind evith the view of considering that evidence, not only as to the Erskine) would ,repose another, to the following ekeet— agency, but as to the affect which the examination upon the sub- "If in any trial a witness is celled on the part-of the plaintiff, pot would bear upon the credibility of Sacchi as a witness. andeives evidence against the defendant, and if, after the cross- Mr. Denmear pointed out other -parts of the Minutes as con examinatiolf, it is discovered that the witness so examined hi s twining evidence to affect both parts of the proposition. . endeavoured to corrupt persons to girt; evidence against the de . Mr. Pears skid, that the question could - not be put without fondant, whether Counsel for the defendant may not be allowed giving an opportunity to Sacchi to conttedict it, in fact ' it was to adduce oviance of such .corrupt acts?" in every respect inadmissible. The sari of CARNARVON said that the House had deter- , The LORD CHANCELLOR read the evidence pointed' mined 'that they cod anti ought to go on witb the inquiii out to him in proof of the agency of Sacehi , and he repeated info the allegstiow gr u b conspiraey; and evatydelayunnecessarily their Lordships' former decision, that new evidence could not interposed in that inquiry, hecould not but regard its act of be called to prejudice the testimony of a witness, by circumstances injustice. Whether some of their Lorehips- inigiteeotonaa t e on which that witness had not been cross-examined. Upon this Seechi as an agent, or where that he wan only a witness, ground Majocchi bid been called, and upon the same authority it was impossible for any of them to exclude from their • this examination would goforward, the witness Sacchi being en consideration whether this man had not himself been active tided tothe privilege of examinaticea to contradict the declare in suborning witnesses to give 'evidence against the Queen. tions of theperson whose testimony was to affect him. These ob- They could not do justice if they excluddd this fact from their sereations were directed to the consideration of Sacebiai an evi hence. With es pect to the question of the agency of Sacchi, it view ; they could nut more directly promote th e en d s of justice, thap by entering upon the inquiry how that fact really would be for the to determine, whether be was a mere . stood. It waa of no its to refer to the Judget for their opt nien ; since it was allowed do all hands, that in the mid, the House messenger of the Milan Commission, or employed as an agent. by them ? • were not bound to abide by that opinion. In his judgment, Lord ERSKINE said, that with 'respect to the questionof the question proposed was consistent- with every object of sub the credibility of Sacchi as a witness, if, in his time; a meta had scandal justice, and he would therefore move at once, that in been offered of the attempt of a person to corrupt wituesses, lie I stead cf referring the questions proposed to the "Learned .Tudge should at once proceed to the proof, and calculate open thel event of the investigation as of the most decisive kind. 1 —" the question proposed by the Counsel- f ar her Mak:s s, ty, „, TA: . A should- be now put. .1 , . Lord GREY sail, that such a connelion ha d beeo c. " 4-4 " e" ..Lord it EDISSDALE supported the reference to the Judges. The LORD CHAN,CELL.aiIt then put the motion of Earl between the hidan-Conunission,and Secclal, that it heteane in dispensably pecessary to prove the nature of his envier-et-et ; . I. C anarvon to the vote.e--.Thb Non-Couteets had it. and if a person meld be proved to have attempted to corluet the Heine then decided, that the two questions proposed by others to swear falsely, what doubt eould tie oelhlatlaioad of his willingness the Loart . Cieeiciu.os and Lord Femme should be refuerese so to swear Wooly bitusell? Tao proof of a corrupt jud L ORD agency upon the part or a that witness. witness, destropl the credibility 6f `"` • , • i . The CHANCELLOR handed the questiarea '4l .. . ... . Mid not been proved: Wog to Lord'Chlef YusOce Abbott. f , Tke Red of LlVERPOOL'argatekthat the agency of- Sacchi . 7 After the jedgestad conferred for afew minutes together, bi. rt.' .. -- . . The 'LORD CHANCELLOR informed the House t h at 1 Earl GREY,—Could et:le : one doubt the nature of he's mission . to Cataniitz ~. the Judges wished to -withdraw to deliberate on the questions The LORD CHANCELLOR said, it was the general opi- prolate to them, and as the usual bout ofedjournuient was atop of theeHonee that the examieation..almeld be mauled, cod i In _ .'' e u arat fld k rand,th° would now nuive thet the house do adjoi n: . that 54111 i might be called to rebut the evolcare. A "l: 'ura eordinaly, at flalf-past Th i rcio'Clocke- •