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hteil ate Lords of the Tre«. 1.7 :ch quite satietieti that he was pro- Intl, &missed. Cord CLEMENTS said that the petitioner was willing to lay' down 4001. to pay the expenses of the investigation he sought for, which was prima facie evidence that he thought his ease a good Mr. DAWSt)N said the case had been repeatedly investigated, and he tv.,s dismissed upon two distinct charges against him, which w••te sati.f4ctorily established. C. W. WYNNE thought it impossible that the House could trite aprn itself in such cases as this to constitute itself a Court of of Appeal. (Hear, hear.) I .r. O'CONNELL thought it was the duty of the house to pre. yew any individual from being oppressed unfairly. THE BORRISOZAHE TRIALS. . Mr. DOHERTY begged to ask the hon. member for Clare what hiss intention was as to the petitions relative to the Borrisokane tie r.olice of which was last night postponed until a future day, ? Mr O'CONNELL said, that he had written to the petitioners, reqJest it they were resolved to persevere in presenting the that they would place them in the hands of some other per r.. He could not receive an answer before Saturday, and on Mon r•+:y he would definitively announce what he would do with respect :hose petitions. %lr. O'CONNELI. presented a petition from the parish of St. Mary, Dublin, against the vestry act. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice, that to.morrow he would move for a return of the number of persons killed in affrays with the po lice in Ireland ; and who for a return of the evidence taken before the Coroner on the inquest on the body of Daniel Whelan. Mr. HUSKISSON postponed the petition of which he had given notice until Thursday next. Mr. DENISON presented a petition from Woking, in Surrey, against the sale of beer bill. Mr. C. W. WYNNE asked whether it was possible to state when the case of Sir Jonah Barrington would come before the house. Mr. Secretary PEEL suggested that the better way would be for the house to meet at two o'clock on Saturttir, to take the case into consideration. Some change ought to take place in the manner of presenting petitions, which interfered materially with the public buminesa. Mr. HUME agreed that some alteration was necessary, and sug. Gated that parliament should sit earlier and longer, and public business should commence at seven o'clock, and stop at a given hour. Parliament should meet in November, and the house would not find itself in its present predicament. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that Ministers had as great an interest as the hon. member, that the house should rise early ; but he feared that that would be Inconvenient, for five hours was not sufficient to transact the business of the country, even if the session lasted the whole year. Mr. HUSKISSON thought it would be well to avoid debating bills upon the presentment of petitions. Mr Secretary PEEL thought it would be better not to give any positive opinion now, but that every hon. member should apply his mind to the subject, to see If some remedy could not be discovered. After a few words from Lord L. Gower, Mr. Croker, and Mr. S. Rice. Mr.WYNNE 'aid, that he thought it was desirable to err on the right side if they were to err at all, and therefore he would not object to SirJ Barrington's being heard by himself or counsel; but he would not consent that he should be heard by witnesses, for, at Ids own request, he had already been so heard before a committee if , that house. He would suggest twelve o'clock on Saturday, and dol l no other business should precede it. The consideration of the matter was then fixed for twelve o'cledi on Saturday. Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS said, before bringing the subject he. fore the house, of which he had given notice, relative to the trade with the West Indies, he had to say that though the period of the session when he brought It forward was very late, yet that was DO owing to his imagining that it was not a matter of great importance, but because the business of the session was so heavy, that he had no opportunity of bringing it forward. It would have been much more satisfactory to him if Government had taken up the subject, or if they would even now promise to take it into their consideration against the next session of parliament, he should be most happy to leave it in the hands of the right hon. gent. the President of the Board of Trade. Mr. HENRIES said that government was prepared to receive and consider all the information which could be given on the sub. ject, and to do all that it was possible for than to do in the further. ante of much of what the hon. member had in view, though at the same time he would suggest to the honourable member that the subject might be more effectually considered before a committee alr dic house. Lord CHANDOS thought government had never done its s e s i l by the West India interests, for they ought to have been to come forward with some sped& motion, and if gore:mast would not then give an assurance that they would bring in a bill on the subject next session of parliament, he would entreat his hon. friend to persevere In his motion. Mr. Secretary PEEL said that it was impossible that any midi pledge could be given, and it was also, he must say too much Se' expect that ministers should, in one Session of Parliament, p themselves to bring forward certain measures in the next. Hs thought the best course for the hon. member would be to wait ti next Session, before which time Government would notify to him what steps they meant to pursue, so that he might then move for a committee upon the subject, which would be far the moat effectual wa Lr of Lett & the fullest information upon the subject. UGLAS expressed his assent to this arrangement. Sir A. GRANT approved of this arrangement, but wished to impress upon the right boa. gentleman (the Chancellor of the Ex. chequer) whether some relief could not be afforded in the interim, before the subject came on for consideration in the next session of parliament. He thought an ad valorem duty would be a relief, instead of the general duty at present levied. Mr. HUME thought that relief ought not to be afforded to one class at the expense of the other. A parliamentary Inquiry alone would do justice to the parties, and to the community; and the hot,. member was abandoning his cause in consenting to the coin. promise. The duty on sugar ought to be reduced, and that would afford relief instantaneously, as well to the West India interests as to the community. FIRST FRUITS REVENUE (IRELAND.) 81r JOHN NEWPORT rose, punuani to notice, to bring be. fore the house the subject of the revenue arising from first fruits in Ireland, and the administration thereof. The right honourable ba. ronet traced the history of first fruits from the reign of Elisabeth to the present time. The gross amount for ten years, ending 1810, of tint fruits, was only 3,0001. and for the last ten years, ending 1830, it was s,oool.—This was owing to a most inadequate valuation made in the time of Elizabeth, and which, of necessity, was now still more inadequate. The bishoprick of Derry paid in first fruits only :2101. a.year, although the richest in Ireland, while the see of Rochester, the poorest in England, paid 3201. and the richest see in England paid as much as the whole revenue of first fruits in Ireland. The honourable baronet concluded by moving a stiles of resolutions declaratory of the facts stated in his speech. Lord F. L. GOWER said, he did not pretend to give any legal opinion on the question, but he understood that no new valuation of these first fruits could take place according to the existing law. He therefore contended that the right hon. gent. was not justified la calling on the house to affirm the allegations set forth In the resole. dens. They had not the right to deal with the establishment of Ireland in the peculiar manner requited. The first fruits were es. tablished for the benefit of the clergy, and not of the community. Under all these circumstances, he felt himself called upon to move the previous question. Mr 8. RICE said he had before supported the proposition of the right bon. baronet on this subject; and he should now have the , pleasure of again pursuing the like course. Ills opinions were, if possible, strengthened • but though the arguments against the motion were repeated th at did not strike him to come .with ad. .ditional force. If the government not, undertake that the ques. l non should go to a jury, he was quite cure that his right honour.' able friend would withdraw his resolutions ; if they did not theta be must doubt their sincerity. Was this asking too much ? It was not adopting a course of spoliation, nor that which was different from what was done in England. The adoption of This motion would be useful to the people and thechurch. It was founded, on eight previously existing. He had the authority of Lord Mary. beMugh, the Primate of Ireland, Ike. in support of the proposition now submitted. He did not want to divert chutch property from SlMMisatical Re wanted it to be distinctly so devoted ; iillhe was gLttlto say that the church of Ireland was daily ins. proving. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he had before had to steel Lotions of like intact with the present, and therefor* it would be tinnecessery for him to detain the house at any length en the meat occasion. His noble friend had fairly met the qui& r iiv, don ; the would not warrant th e d octr i ne o f th e reso l ut i ons . If the/ were they.irould alter the whole coulee of proceedings In such cases. was said that It would not be requiring a course diferent from what was adopted in England.;. but he denied that such was the result. He wag glad to have had the sanction of the hon. member us to the stet* if the duch•ls.lreland. He must concur In the motion of itin neble Mend. Sit J. NEWPORT replied. Would the taiwisters allow the rito h ers the bee* of a judicial. replan ?— ( hear.) If ge:v il ern were so ceeildent that they wee right, why did they defile this %sip-4116u ► heir.). • _llir wield ma harm, till he saw ii; that the bout ;sold eweedee tie midis he the previous teeedew.—Thylostele divided. .• ~ ~ . Fer the Nokia " • Apiest k.......0..* ..4, . . . ee .i!). . 1 4 1 07 ... ' m om; • !:..,., so . ' • • • Sir CHARLES WETHEKELL postponed his motion regarding the Court of Chancery generally. Mr. BROUGHA 74 said he hoped Government would state whe. ther they meant to afford the house an opportunity of discussing tber subject of improvement in the practice of the Court of Chan cery during the present 'session. Mr. .11. A. TAYLOR hoped the session would not be allowed to pass over without diremdon. Sir ROBERT PEEL said he should on Thursday give notice of a motion on the subject. BUIMILE COMPANIES. Mr. DUODA LE after detailing the circumstances which gave rise to the Birmingham and London Junction Canal Company, ob served, that the solicitor to the said company had lodged, in the Private Bill Office of the House of Commons, a subscription list of shareholders i which was not founded in tact, in order to obtain an act of parliament in behalf of the undertaking ; the hon. member concluded by moving, as an addition to the standing orders of the house, in order to prevent a recur re n ce of such matters, that all subscription; lists to be lodged in the Private Bill Office, do in tore contain the Christian names and placta of residence, together with the profession or calling of the parties whose names are in. iterted, and that a deed of settlement be executed previous to the second reading of the hilL Mr. BENSON supported the motion, and inquired whether, as a question of privilege, it might be postponed to another day. The SPEAKER begged to refer hon. members to the report of the committee on the transaction alluded to, and deal with the guts. tion as it appeared to them best. Mr. DUGDALE then moved that T. 11. Lee, of the Binning ham and London Canal Company, be summoned to the bar of the house, and there reprimanded for his very culpable conduct in cer. tain transactions conneet.d with the said company. After some conversation, in which the Speaker, Mr. Wynn, Mr. Hume, and Mr. Brougham. took part, as to a point of order, On the motion of 111 r. IIUME, the consideration of both ques. tions was postponed till Thursday. Lord LOWTHER moved for leave to bring in a Bill for ascer taining the boundaries of Deane Forest. Mr. W. HARVEY opposed the After a few words from Mr. BROUGHAM and Mr. FCARLETT, I leave was given to bring in the bill. ADMINISTRATION Or JUSTICE. Mr. O'CONNELL was of opinion, in consequence of the late. ness of the hour, that consideration of the above question should be postponed till another day. Mr. BROUGH A3l objected to any postponement. It was quite a modern innovation to postpone the consideration of questions of such importance at twelve o'clock. Sir ROBERT PEEL said, that the present was quite a prelimi. nary measure—three weeks had already been lost—and consideration of it ought NOW to proceed. After a few words from Mr. W. Harvey, Mr. Brougham, Mr. Fyshe Palmer, and Sir M. W. Ridley, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, that the present was no bill, hut a recommendation from the crown to take the subject of administration of justice into consideration. Mr. 11U3111 thought no case for additional Judges was made out; and he was afraid, that the step now proposed would pledge the house to the measure. As for the objection made to the time spent in presenting petitions, he did not understand; were they to meet merely to vote money, and not to hear the pethions of the people? He thought the house should not enter on the discussion at one o'clock in the morning. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, agreeing to the resolu tion, pledged the house to nothing more then enabling his majesty to pay the judges, should the house think their appointment ne. The house went into the committee. Sir A. GRANT read his majesty's message, in which he ex pressed his reliance on the house to make provision for the new judges to be appointed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the judges' salaries at present were 5,5001. He meant to propose that the sa lades of the new judges should be 5,000 L The right hon. gentle man moved a resolution, that the house would make a provision for the salaries of three new judges, at 5,0001. a year each. Mr. HUME said he thought the salary of 5,0001. was too high for the present circumstances of the country. He would move that 4,0001. be substituted. Mr. BROUGHAM said he bad opposed the increase of the Judges' salary to 5,5001. and had then proposed that it should be 5,0001. He should now agree to the sum proposed. The appoint. ment of the Judges, and the amount of salary, could be opposed in various stages of the bill to be brought in. Mr. BRIGHT thought the salary of the new Judges should be 5,0001. a-year ; and that, for the purpose of full discussion, the bill should be divided into three bills. 11r. HUAI E thought, that as his bon. and learned friend thought 6,0001. a sufficient salary in the days of prosperity, he should agree with him in thinking 4,0001. sufficient at present. He moved an amendment, that his majesty be enabled to grant an annual salary, not exceeding 4,0001. to any new judges, to be appointed, not ex ceeding three in the whole. Lord ALTHORP wished not to oe understood as agreeing to the high salary of 5,0001. If it should appear that 4,5001. would be sufficient to procure the best abilities in judges, he would not in the future stages of the bill vote for a higher salary. Mr. PEEL said the honourable gentleman's measure ought to extend to all future Judges, and not to make the three new Judges different from all the rest. At the same time he thought such an alteration in Judgaw salaries at present was not eligible. Mr. O'CONNELL thought 4,000/. would be sufficient, and it would be laying down a scale for the salaries of all future Judges. Mr. F. PALSIER said, the Judges' salaries now would purchase one-third more than when they were raised--4,000L was now fully equal to 5,0001. then. He would support the amendment. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the expenses of a judge now were not less than five years ago. He was confident the best men in Westminster Hall could not be had for 4,0001. unless at a time of life when they ought to retire from public life altogether. Mr. HUJIIE was confident that 99 out of 100 out of the walls of , that house, would think 4,0001. a year a su ffi cient salary. He should take the opinion of the house on the point at a future stage of the proceeding.—The resolution was agreed to. A resolution that his Majesty be enabled to grant to the judges to be so appointed the same retired allowances as to the present judges, was also agreed to. The house resumed. The report was ordered to be received on Thursday next. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said. It would be necessary to add sonic other clauses to the bill, for the purpose of making can. pensation to persons whose interests would be affected by the bill. lie should then propose, that the bill bere-committed, and printed; and, after that, it should be fully discussed the first open day. Mr. HUME hoped the Attorney-General would name the per sons in the bill who were to receive compensation, as otherwise it would lead to abuse. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said three or four of theVicich Judges would be entitled to compensation, and he should have no objection to name them ; but he could not name all the persons who would be entitled. The Insolvent Debtors' Bill was read a third time and passed. The other orders of the day were disposed of, and the house ad. journal at Two o'Clock. BIRMINGHAM POLITICAL UNION. It was finally determined at the Meeting of the Coun cil on Tuesday se'nnight, to forego the attendance of a band of music at the procession. On Saturday evening, however, another Meeting of the Council took place, at which the subject was re-i n t ro d uce d, an d M r . Attn?ood stood forward as the chief advocate of harmony. After considerable discussion, it was finally resolved that a band lof martial music should precede the procession. By nine o'clock on Monday morning, a large crowd was assembled in Temple-street, and by half-past ten o'clock, that and the adjoining streets were choked by thousands. The excitement intended by the display and exhibition of a procession was certainly most fully an swered, as hundreds pressed into the Council-rooms to enrol their names in the lists of the Union, and receive the medal—the acknowledged and authorised badge of membership. Among the names entered was that of Sir Charles Woiseley, who, in a letter to Mr. Creswick, of New-street, containing his subscription, expressed him self a Warm supporter of the objects and plans of the Union. It may be safely asserted, that since the year 1818, the time of the celebrated election of the legisla torial attorney, the town never presented so extraordinary a scene of commotion. Soon after ten o'clock the mem bers were ordered to form two deep in St. Philip's church yard, where they were informed the Members -of the Council would join and head them. Mr. Edmonds's known influence over the populace was never more con spicuously displayed than on this occasion. With a beck of the hand he succeeded, in the course of a few minutes, in marshalling the dense thousands occupy ing every avenue in the neighbourhood of the piste of rendezvous. During these preparations the band, situated in front of the Glube Tavern, struck up " GOD save the King !" and other of our most popular national airs. On proceeding from Temple-street, down New-street, the Bull-ring, and Digbeth, the sight was one of the most imposing that can be conceived. The shops were almost entirely closed, the upper windows of the houses throughout the whole line of the procession were crowded with gaily dressed spectators, and the streets themselves so densely thronged, that it was found almost impossible for the precession to make its way. Long before its arrival at Mr. Beardsworth's Repository, the place of nieeting, the building was more than half filled, and before the Council bad taken their places in the gallery, e‘ery corner of this magnificent erection was occupied. Not less than from 18,000 to '20,000 persons must have been assembled within its walls ; while, according to the calculation of persons best competent to come to a cor rect conclusion, not fewer than from 80,000 to 100,000 persons must have been witnesses to the promenade. The most remarkable feature in the conduct of the populace was, the great attention paid to Messrs. Att wood, Scholetield, and Muntz, who headed the proces sion. Several sturdy fellows formed a sort of body guard, and, by dint of hard labour and great exertion, succeeded in keeping off the pressure of the multitude from these gentlemen. THE MEETING. On the Council entering the Repository, they proceeded to the end of the gallery, the middle of which was partitioned off for their accommodation and the convenience of the reporters. Immediately over this space an elegant painting of the Royal Arms was placed ; the opposite auction-rooms and galleries being occupied by ladies and gentlemen silent " spectators of the fight." G. F. Alu wrz was immediately called to the Chair. The CHAIRMAN, after reading the advertisement calling the meeting together, dsserved that they were met to obtain a rational reform, rational. in doing which he hoped they would be They ought calmly and rationally examine what the Constitution entitled them to, and then prudently, but vigorously, proceed in measures for its attainment—(clicers.) Mr. HADLEY then proceeded to read the report, in which he was relieved by the Chairman ; and which, at the conclusion, was received by loud and vehement cheering. Mr. EDMONDS then rose to address the mectiug.—Mr. Chair man, said be, I should pity that man who could see such an int. niense number of human beings congregated together, and only for a moment consider their varied feelings, and their universal and commont sentiment of complaint, and yet remain indifferent and unmoved by the spectacle. For his own part, he could not express the intensity of his feelings, when he saw so many thousands of individuals aroused by the errors of the government under which it was their misfortune to live, and all animated by one detetmina firm to support measures fur the recovery of lust rights, and the el:sires. of grievances, by which they were all, more or less, in. jured. (Cheers.) Ile felt the importance of bringing the thoughts and feelings of the people in one combined operation upon the sys. tem of government. for this purpose, unanimity of design, sen timent, and object, was necessary ; he therefore implored their attention while he, for a few moments, dwelt upon the objects the Political Council had in view in proposing the adoption of the Report, which had just be e n read : viz.—The promotion of a mod. rate, but, at the saute time, a radical reform, in the constitution of the House of Commons. (Hear, hear.)—The opinions of the Council upon this subject had been mine. presented. They had been represented as enemies to radical re. form, but such were not their sentiments. He (Mr. Edmonds) had no doubt, however, but there were thousands then present who thought the unlimited system advocated by some reformers, would prove subversive of the good of the country ; they could not but associate those scenes of anarchy and confusion with its exist. ence, which bad in a former age been so conspicuously displayed in a neighbouring country. Nevertheless even those persons who doubtless feared an unlimited franchise, were in favour of gradual reform, and were glad to see its cause moving on with the in creased knowledge of the age. It was this class of persons whose influence and co-operation it was desirable to obtain; and the public Meeting of that day @hewed that they were not insets. sible or indifferent to the promotion of the objects of the Union. The report did not denounce a constitutional reform, but merely ad. vocated the propriety of demanding what the law clearly acknow. !edged ; rights under which their forefathers were a powerful and a happy people. and which it was not dangerous for them to enjoy. He warned the meeting agairst being led away by those theorists who would accept nothing unless they got all—who, if they could not obtain what they wanted at once, were unwilling to receive it by slow degrees; and who were too fond of claiming things merely because they considered them as rights, without first taking nto consideration the first and most vital rule by which they ought to be regulated—the happin ess of t h e people. He (Mr. Edmonds) would ask if they got a government elected by such a franchise, would they not stand a bett e r chance of obtaining any further rights to which they thought they were constitutionally entitled, than from their present corrupt and interested rulers? Would they go to the house of a churl when they had the opportunity of going to the openhearted and liberal man ? (Cheers.) He was one that did not wish to see either anarchy or revolution. In his (Mr. E.'s) opinion, their object ought to be to obtain a practical good, without caring so much about an unsubstantial theory. What they wanted was redress and, in his opinion, it was best to obt a i n w h at t h e y cou ld, an d burying unimportant differences and go along with those who went with them to the very threshold of their most extravagant wishes— (Cheers.) The report, the adoption of which he should conclude by moving, stated the object of the Council to be the organization and direction of public opinion; and he was gratified to observe, from the thousands he was addressing, the unanimity of sentiment which pervaded the meeting, how, successful they had been in that object. They did not, Chin forbid they should, attempt to organize the physical force of the people. (Cheers.) Their only wish was that they might make the moral for:eof the country bear down upon the measures of government. Mr. Edmonds, after alluding in strong terms to the New Deer Act, and the signal injustice done to pub. Beans, who on the faith of the establish e d laws, recently renewed by implication at the time of the passing . of Mr. Estcourt's bill, con eluded by moving that the Report of the Council be approved and confirmed by the Union. JOSHUA SEHOLEYIELD, Esq. in rising to second the motion, said the object of the Political Council was simply to direct the energies of their fellow-townsinen—to induce them to look to them. selves and the protection of their own interests--and to make their complaints known to government, in language they could not mis understand, or ultimately dare to resist.—(Cheers.) That man must, indeed, be destitute of both bead and heart, and lost to every feeling of humanity, who could deny the general prevalence of distress at this period. Through the instrumentality of Mr. Att. wood, who had originated the Political Unions, and which were now ' starting up in every part of the kiqdom, be hoped that a new im. pulse would be given to politics, and that the lower classes of b might anticipate with confidence that their bodily as well as intellectual enjoyments would be placed in a sure way of permanent improvement. With regard to the Marquis of Blsndford's bill. be believed his lordship to be a sincere reformer, and his bill calm.. lasted to gain the support of a most influential part of the people,— For these reasons he supported it. " May (ion," said Mr. S. take away from me that prosperity in the world which I have en. joyed. and of which I am not aufficiendy proud, if ever I am found the advocate of measures injurious to my poor fellow-countrymen." Mr. Scholefield concluded by seconding the motion. Mr. Bras commenced by observing ,that in appearing there in I behalf of himself and others of the lower Glasses of society, he had undertaken a very painful task. It was not foe the purpose of creating a schism among the Members of the Union; but be was convinced that the declaration upon the subject of annual paella ' meats and univerial suffrage, was a complete juggle and hum. bug.—(Tremendons Mining, Interrupted with s li g h t app l ause, an d cries of " Pitch him over." The confusion lasted some mi. mates.) If the elective franchise was confined to householders, the poor would almost entirely be shut out from the exercise of the right, as it would, according to that system, be confined to those who paid scot and lot---that was, all who paid every descrip. don of taxes as well as rent.—(Loud and repeated cheers.) With respect to Lord Blandford's bill, it had been said that it was calculated to forward the cause of radical reform. This, he wished to show, was not true. It confined the elective franchise to house. holders; and as there was not more then three millions of houses in this kingdom, that would of necessity be the full amount of thou who would have a right to which every inhabitant of the country was entitled. Tbe total number of the population in the united kingdom was Mew minims, and if considered thice.fourtiss to consist of females, se males under the age of twentynoo, thin would still remain four millions, coo portion of which, memillog to Lord Blaadford's bill, would be excluded fismi sty partiolgetion in the elseden of members of parliament. Ilapin they restricted it to those who paid scot and lot, the num. bee would be still more diminished, for there were many thousands et heeesheithee who did Doc, and who could net pay taxes. As to the wilvoreality man% the pesmoble of the act of Edward the Mom fleetly showed shot all who poisoned thenisolves at the musty omoln, whothsCombikets or not were entitled to vote for knights of the Wm. The Iwo seiesept to abridge this right was le the nip o f H im the ego, when the eight ma tinees eeellesti speed-. leg 4.4. is theology. The_ geekoreled to tbe weed& of this bill, mei the reseerke4 that the peeing of the Mary& of Wandford's bill would tend to separate the interests and feelingi o' the middle and lower classes. blr. Bibb concluded by moi•u tg amendment, condemnatory of the declaration of the Council, ft. sour of Lord Blandfoni's bill, and sat down amidst considerabl, cheers. The amendment being withdrawn, the motion was carried . mously, accompanied by three times three. of addressing thetn eciteno l fi t ti e hi,i l eotn i t a ip6i d lraigleit occasion u n latth i g n e t on o t c l7 n o gll l 3 t l u a l y a. Le e s t t lic y t ea n Mr. Art WOOD then rose and said, when last he bad the !moo on tic e gh •ff eres ec ht t a p dn r i od etth.te u in c;d gleash b e y ludr t ti 2 icni sth of on el ti ar ie na l ary uccetil last. ol To h d b i tE o n u i g t c h w o o n:in a ed En gr g ea t iand o t tl7itsais:dar:tiighorouhnbodirlotuoodt th e itt e ro l lt p c t t e. th l 7; i r u i rt y rrso i : li ad g rd t n e d: assured, they had given the enemy a tremendous blow, asd made him reel, as the boxers said, from one side of the star e to the other.—(A laugh and cheers.) By their permission, thin would repeat the blow again and again, until they were e; :. abled, by (lon's blessing, to give them what 'the French called the coup de grace, or what they, Englishmen, called, " the finishin • blow." (Cheers and laughter.) What was the cause? It war, not their numerical strength, although it was a glorious and map nificent sight to behold them on that occasion ; but it was produced by the council's prudence, caution, strict legality, system, organics. tion, firmness of purpose, and of determination. (Cheers.) These were the qualities which struck terror into the breasts of their ene• mies. It was the great mass of the people, brought forward in cordial and affectionate union with the middle classes, their natural friends and protectors, which alarmed the enemies of their country, and gave them to understand that the day of their domino. tion was drawing to a close. (Cheers.) In accomplishing this, tile council had to struggle with innumerable difficulties, surrounded oar every side by such a confused mass of inexplicable laws, that it was scarcely possible for human wisdom to escape these numerous devil. traps. (luughter and cheers.) He could assure them that but for their great prudence, they should have been destroyed like the re . [Outten and be (Mr. A.) picked out from amongst them, and in a ll probability lodged in a dungeon. (" No, no.") it gave him great pleasure to find that the report had been passed by that inuttense assembly very near unanimously before he had had occasion to make these quotations; because it showed the unbounded confidence and affectionate attachment which they felt towards the counciL He could assure them there was no fear of that confidence Wing abused . Ile was sorry to hear remarks made tending to alienate the lowet from the middle classes, and to represent the latter as by no means the friends of the former. All classes were bad enough, and, pro. bably, the middle classes were no better than others. All men bad hearts in their bosoms, and so long as that was the case they would be liable to human frailties and infirmities; but this much for the middle classes he must say, that although they had not had spirit enough to come forward openly and join the union, he had the satisfaction of saying, from private communications with individuals in the town, that 9.loths were cordially attached to its objects. They were kept back by the numerous causes men. dotted in the Report ; but let them have patiehce ; the time would shortly come, when all these thnid, watik.nerved people, would roll up their strength into a cordial support of the union. He had also received letters and messages from many of the nobility and aris tocracy of the land, expressing their cordial approbation of the Political Union ; and he doubted not, but in a very short period. not only the middle classes of the country generally, but also th r upper classes also, who were not interested in the national plunder, would tender their powerful assistance in its support. He hal no doubt, from what he saw and knew 'of the public opinion. among all classes, that the government would shortly be eon:. pelled to grant their just and rightful demands, and to give them a just and fair representation of the people in their own house. He knew principles were at work, that if this act of common justice were refused, the public mind would be brought to such a state of excitement, that the dying father would call his children to his bed-side, and, taking the Holy Scrip. tures in his hand, he would make them swear eternal hatred to the borough system. (Cheers.) 1 here could be no doubt of the truth of this; the spirit was gone abroad; it was rising from the lowa the higher eludes, and, like the influence of Fades at Saragossa. was certain to awake the dead heart, and to arouse all classes in its support. (Cheers.) By these observations he had been led auras from an important point ; which was to assure the lower classes, the: whatever vices might exist among the middle classes there was oci consolation for the lower. If the middle classes ever got Into power, it would be utterly impossible for them to promote their own interests visitant promoting these of the lower at the same time. (Cheers.)_ The middle classes had no interest worth a rush but that of get ting a good trade, without rendering the workmen as independent as the master, and securing not only profit to themselves but ample wages to the labourer.—(Cheers.) To come, however, to a plan of reform he would say that it was not wise to go into the consideration of abstract rights, as into that of clear, undisputed. constitutional rights.—(Cheers.) Annual Parliaments, univereal and vote by ballot, might possibly be beneficial, the Poli. tl: Tuned had not said a word against them; they only denied the propriety of claiming them, bemuse they were not clear, ac. knowledged, indisputable, constitutional rights--(Cheers.) Out of one hundred lawyers of undeniable integrity, nine out of ten whom be had consulted, altogether denied that universal suffrage had ever existed in England, and he was most ca. rain that it never existed in any other country in the world. La peasant, with regard to what had been said by the gentleman on the left, about an Act of Henry the Sixth, four hundred years ago, he thought it his duty to state, that a great error existed. In that very Act, within three lines of the passage wherein it was de clared that men who could expend 40s. per annum should have a vote in the election of members of parliament, the words " as afore is said " were inserted, expressly meaning that the expenditure of the dens. per annum must be en expenditure derived from freehold property only. (Cheers.) Mr. A. then went on to state, that the internal sufferings of this country were unparalleled, and that they had not even the consolation of national honour to com. fort them. This great and glorious nation had been accustomed es dictate to the whole world; but now it was become the contempt of all the nations of Europe. It was kicked about and spit upon on all sides. The Austrians insulted us in Italy—die French insulted us in Spain—the Russians in Turkey—and even the us of Portu gal threw his heels in the face of the British lion ; and yet this de graded nation, with every feeling bursting at its heart's core, ass compelled to pocket the affront. (Cheers.) In speaking of a plan of refocus (said Mr A.) how should they agree ..pon it? Should they apply to the 300 gentlemen who returned the majority of the House of Commons ? They, no doubt, would say no reform was needed. Should they apply to the 15 or 30,000 individuals who bad their fingers pretty deeply in the national pie; those gentlemen would probably gravely assure them, while picking their pocke• with both hands, and looking them seriously in the face, that In deed they could see nothing very wrong in the present state of things Laud laughter and cheers.) If, h )wever, they asked the middle classes, the 300,000 families of plunde red nianufac. tutees and farmers, these gentlemen would all agree that there was something wrong in the state of things, and that something must be corrected, although they could not properly tell what. —There were materials cf discontent enough ; the only dif ficulty was in making them harmonise and unite in some common remedy. Many now entertained fears of a reso lution, and, undoubtedly, a revolution was the most dreadful calamity that could possibly happen to this nation ; and he to assure them, that under such a calamity the interests o ) fr i mass of the people, had as was their fate now, would be ten . ten times worse than it was. Let them only think of the state o; distracted misery among the lower classes, which muse be produced by a state of anarchy. In their complicated state of -society, awl . supported existence by the mutual interchange, of their products o f industry. The button.burnisher could not live upon the burnish ing of a button, unless be could exchange it fa brad; nor could the ploughman or the producer of hewed, clothe himself with the pro duct of his labour, unless be could exchange it for cloth. To break up airwenderful machinery of this kind, was to create univasa! &mai and bloodshed, and to bring on with this something lik.: universal ruin and destruction, mere cruel among the weaker classes anger but what did it amount to ? At this very moment, be was thib l:l:ol,oN riUghainantlea tli th ei had ° gaine th d emsaa t fest fv"eL ur w e hTa o h f te? co F n lirencli st y itu th ti e onT wnle li f bett wallad y e 4 wry to declare, that out of 30,000,000 of inhabitants which France contained, only 80,000 possessed the power of re turning members to the French House of Common.. The misery which the French people underwent in obtaining their very limited representation, was g reater than almost any recorded in the history of nations ; and if such misery was created by the breaking up of their social not a tenth part so complicated as our own, what would be the dreadful misery every man must sustain, be he rich or be be poor, if ever the complicated and wen. derful machinery of English society was suffered to break up ? --- (Cheers.) To return to universal =Sage. In America, the heat and happiest country on the fees of the earth, universe' suffrage did not exist in any one of the estates. They had all exceptions, either founded on parish relief, or as being pearls, soldiers, slaves, and minors, wit many ether exceptions. Not only did net universal engine exist in any is of-the Thery. lr t ndes Greeks bit sa it lo n er mans. Aid exist in any mussy weeded the bravest nations of antiquity, gave the elective had& at only about ea pseuds ste in Ave at the ray most. H i e i Llln A.) did wish nog wish rnsr universal same, annual imams. and vote ley ballot; it was there might be semoding in them; but it was there might be measthing Assorrans in them. All he say was, that he threes it was ass pedal to claim them. And why should be, when the ismisalabk is•s' tuden nailer which their fathers lourtehod was open to dim t Inv Marquis et Blandferd's MU, if passed, would secure inmeeseeprivi ttelaterddiscisseespeople.a. i th t=restoz e thz 2 S s aushr width and bal..— But before be chewed their the siklid the Nat 1 4 . _ --.•