Star. — London, England, 1812-06-17 00:00:00

_ • • . c'epreesed than rranee had been by the operation of these very Orders in Council.—(Hear, hear, on both sides of the Hoeft.) From the. French documents them- selves this fact appeared. The whole internal con sumption of Fiance, with her population of $6 mil lions, added to het- exports, was only 54, whilst.our ex pot ts alone were 66 millions. Never.therefore. would he cease to contend, that the syitem of his late Right Hon. Friend did not o ri g in a t e a s much in wisdom as in justice. On the other bend, amidst all our strug • glee, did not out. Conntry ethibit a picture, not of • commercial decay, but of increasing prosperity ? Was it not the picture of a country rising in all the features of wealth, aid glowing in prosperity ? Could not even • the diflicultiet which we now complained of be ree, (erred to the unnatural growth of that prosperityisfi ,a particular year ? With the exception of our tratchiel to America, had not all the branches of our commerce gone on in an accumulating ratio ?—(Hear, hear. )—= Even to the Continent of Europe, notwithstanding all the efforts of the great scourge of mankind, had not . • nur conimerce thriven in the struggle ? Theexports to Europe in the three years subsequent to the Ordersiol Council, were superior by six millions to the exports of the three preceding yews. No country had ever stu -cued more than this had done the interests of neutrals, and certainly every thing in our power had been tried to preserve the friendship of America. (Hear, hear.) But the enemy had said, no people should have com merce with us. We hid justly retorted on the enemy, and declared, that no people should have commerce. with him but through the medium of England. We hadl therefere, resorted to a strict blockade of all his ports; and when he issued his Berlin and Milan De crees, we had recourse to the Orders in Council, as a Treasure of just and necessary retaliation. He wished to say a few words on the subject of licetices, against . which So much clamour had at various times been Too& ; and enless the House was disposed to relin quish at least four-fifths of the whole trade of the • sountty, it must give its approbation to that system ; for-by these we bad for a length of time compelled France and the other parts of the Continent con nected weh, and dependent upon her, to take our manufactures to a vast amount ; and in doing this we never infringed on the rights of neutrals, though be was ready to allow that they could not derive equal advantege from had, however, been repeatedly stated 'o' America, that ws were at any time ready t. eclude our own commerce, if she would make a t. moron cause with us and keep up a strict blockade against Frances if she would nct, she was told de cidedly that we must rigidly resort to a system of re taliation, in order to prevent the enemy from carry iug into effect his open and avowed design of ruining this country. He now felt anxious to call the atten tion of the House to the state of the relations between this country and America, since the period in which the restrictions had been taken off from the Prince Regent. 'With respect to the view the present Mini sters had of that question, he could only say, that till within these few days they bad never thought themselves entitled to act es a Goverment; and when they came to look at the decree which was lately pub lished, though it bore date a twelvementh before, they could not but entertain doubts whether that decree hid exec been set aside by the sweeping declaration of the Duke If Bass um mule since that time. He thenght it was Idea) , desirable that restrictive measures on each side shoilU be suspended, and an attempt made to try if France could net be brought to consent that the outlast mode of carrying on commerce ihouN be re, acted. He thought with the Hon. and.Learned.Geo tiethan who brought forward the motion, that kwould be wrong to notice any iseitaeive measures which had been la'ely•adopted by America, rat that could by no • means; be' productive of benefit, but might tend to Widen the , breach subsisting between the twoceuntries. If the plan he proposed should take place, and the mutual intercourse be restored, it would have the ef fect of introducing new connections, which could not fail to have the most prosperous and beneficial re-' sults. At all events, he hoped the House would net at present interpose its judgment between the Crown and the American Government. He was conscious nothing had been discovered in the conduct of the Erecuave Government of this country that showed hostility to America; and he confidently hoped the present negociations would be so managedets,tp put an end to all-differences subsisting between *weep:, countries. The Vote be would propose to The House would be, to peseta the Orders of the Day. (An univer. sal cry of hear, hear, bear; from the Opposition the of the House.) He confessed he did not understand that cheer. If the dociiments which were necessary had been before the House, he should have met the motion with a direct negative • as it was not so, that would be the motion with which he should conclude. :etelr. WHITBREAD said, that in rising to address the House, he was completely as a loss what words to make use of, for lie was totally unable to undo'. stand the meaning of the Noble Lord. He begged the Noble Lord would say what it was lie meant and .f he was better undet stood by any one.else, he (Mr.Whitbread) should confess that be was truly dull of apprehension. The Noble Lord seemed to wish. the House to believe that he proposed to do something conciliatory to America. But . did he mean_ to act immediately on his proposition ? or was it hiS' i inten. tion to send out to America, and tell ;ter, that if she would relax in her late system of the Noneintercouree induced the! to interfere with the kat,— GovernmentrCanswer was plain and obyious,— it was-the conduct of the Executive itself. The state of the country was so tlarmingo-the cries of the Petitioners were so truly piercing—that it could no longer be put off. It would depend on the decision of the House of Commons, whether you would ha thousands and thousands not only destitute o 1 bread, but in a state of absolute despair. If the House deter. mined to rescind the Orders in Council, there could ke no doubt but the looms would immediately rani numerously be set a going, and ships would be in 'molly freighted. If the Noble Lord's proposition. be-adopted, not a single loom would be seen to move --root the sail of one single ship would be unfurled fur commercial concerns with America, That country. had till to-night been calumniated as a Government, i and had never been treated with the respect due to I an independent power; and it was high time that we should awake to the real interests which belonged to Idr commerce and manufactures of the country. He did hope the Noble Lord and his colleagues, after having witnessed for so long a time the distressed si tuation of the manufacturers, and after learning from ! the evidence what was the cause of it, would have come forward to have put an end to such crying evils, by a determination to suspend the Orders in Council, with their concomitant mischievous attendants licenses —and their subordinate supporters—fraud and per jury. He had in his hand papers which had been left in the hand of a bankrupt, who had dealt in these simulated papers; and the Clerks of that very bank. rupt had since advertised, that all pergons who were desirous of obtaining simulated paperkraight be im mediately supplied, by them. The questipn was, whe ther the Noble Lord would suffer thousands to re main without bread. or would go on wish hi§ 4rdem of simulated papers ;lid licenses? He would ask.the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Rose) whether:43e American Minister, from the first moment -of .the Orders in Council being mentioned, did not protest against them—whether that Minister did not warn him and 'his colleagues, that if they were persisted in, they would involve the two counties in a war ; and at last told both the belligerents, that if they did not relax in their several systems, they could not be on terms with either of them. France had been the first to relay, and thence the state of our starv ing manufacturers. And besides, that while it was pretended by Ministers in this country, that they meant these Orders in Council as a measure of reta liation on the enemy, and negociations were carrying on by means and through the medium of an ambas sador, sent expressly for the purpose from this coun- try, a base and scandalous attempt had been made, which appeared to have been sanctioned by the per son now at the head of the Administration of this country, to separate the Northern States from their 1 union with the Sotthern.--(4 cry of no, no, from Me Miniritrial Bench.) —Mr. Whitbread said, it appeared from Lord Liverpool's letters that this man had been employed by Government; and he had no doubt but when the papers were granted which had been called for and refused, the fact would be proved that such person had been employed for no friendly or laudable purposei; This action, he said, had given into the hands of the Am-skim Government the most power ful engine of war that could be devised. The Noble Lord had said that the cause of the distress of the manufacturers was owing to their having made too . many goods on speculation. He believed the Noble , Lord bad never read the evidence ; for if he had, he 1 would have found no such information there :—he must have derived it from some other source, which was not to be depended on. The evidence told the direct contrary, and shewed that they had manufac- , tured, not front speculation, but to keep the men who ; had been long in their employ from actually starving. The Noble Lord, however, had put it on a different' footing, and was for waiting till we could send a proposition to America for the acceptance of that Government ; while the manufacturing interests were at this moment waiting in breathless expectation, to know whether they were to be doomed to starve or I not. He begged the House would not be caught by the delusion. but by their decision prevent the manu facturers from being driven to profound and absolute I despair. Mr. PONSONBY said, he saw no reason for any such proposition as that mentioned by Lord Castle.' reagh. The American Minister had distinctly and plainly stated to our Ambassador there, that as soon as the Orders in. Council were rescinded, that instant the Non•lntercourse Act would cease. The 'Noble Lord's proposal could therefore do no good ; and no thing but an express revocation of the Orders in Coun t cil could be availing and effectual. .-- Mr. WILBERFORCE said, that if we concede ot all, we should do it so that we could claim the pro raiie of the American Government. We ought to give the manufacturers security. Asking Amer* what she will do, 'when she has already declared what she will do, seemed to be giving her a hint she might recede from what site had promised. We but. micnyJ an opportunity of acting decisively one lesrar..44 I other, and'doret let us, by steering a middle lose the advantage we might derive from actin c 72, openness and candour. He hoped we should alweye endeavour to cultivate the friendship of America ;.is he thought we should he more likely to obtain it,4 revoking the Orders in Council,. than by any other Act, this country would suspend, or revoke, pr alSars don, rir do what with the Orders in, Council 1 he mean to give any relief to the starving manufac turers and ruined capitalists, or did he mean .tri ad vise his Royal Highness the Prince Regent to with draw the Orders in Council till this qunstion should be determined ? . Lord CASTLEREAGH, s; , " he .• means we could pursise. Mr. CANNING entertained the same opinion of the Orders in Council as he had originally done, that they were a justifiable measure of retaliation on the enemy: but that retaliation he always considered as of a prilitical and pot a commercial nature. It was be coming thecharacterofthisccuntry toexert its strength defence of its • and —.sat • but it w 7 „in exp.,. , said, in ice just necessary rights; . .Jas meant as he had stated, that a .proposition should. be also becoming its character to exercise its rights, so as Wade to the American Government to suspend im• to kterwithiu the rules of strict justice to others. He rtiedlately the Orders in Council, on condition that did not approve, therefore, of converting a measure they wculd su,petul their Non-intercourse Act ; and of political retaliation into a commercial monopoly that in the interval both parties should use their en- for ourselves ;* but he was. hay that such a prin. , deavours to prevail on llonaparte to restore the rules ciple had been disclaimed. W hether it was right Of comnperce to their ancient. customary limits , or not to permit this inquiry to be commenced, he Mr. Will 11311tEski) said, if this proposition veal would mot now consider; but he felt hirnself under to be sent out to America, and it was expected that some difficulty, for he had always considered this as a the House and the Country should wait till they re- great political question, though certainly connected ceivcd an anstrer, it was the greatest delusizin that with commerce, which no British statesman ought to had ever been attempted. Cupid he, after what rid lose sight of ; and yet by consenting, tovit oft the passed, suppose the House of Cornmsnw K ould wave ground of commercial pressure, the gut num Was pre she question any longer. The manufac:tfers had de- judged. There were in truth,'great political parties elbed they could. ttOt,wait longer. Tilt. general and interested in this question—Amenca, Great :deeply distressed state of the country loudly declared and France ; and yet, ' from our mode of trying the it ought not ail longer t o be pQstpope4,. What 12 4 .S4estioila we- Pry we,' . • . •. •, - • a AIM V • - from the exercise of a due discretion in regard to our 1 SECOND FADMON. . own Orders in Council, with a view to what might be • . galos 9 . ••••11•1•11k . , done by the other parties. This was his opinion. But .! -. I DiSparChigkillgre this day received from Lora W. now, however, the enquiry had taken place, and the only remaining consideration was; how to turn it to Lino rota. Thin contents bad not transpired whe n thi s the best advantage. The Right Hon. Gentleman Paper was pot to press, but report states, th at the then contended, that revocation was better than sus. French have raised the sie pension. He had no hopes that concession would make any change in the measures of army has been cut off—and Lord Wstus e rnsi France :—but • I be yielded to the hopes of a reconciliation with Ame- army in full march to Madrid. rica, and relief to the distresses of this country. We hope that this intelligence, which, if true, Mr. BROUGHAM congratulated the House and b e ra l productive of most important consegoences, oat the country on the prospect of speedily getting rid of these Orders ia Council. He hoped they should socn be amply confirmed. never hear of them again ; indeed, he was sure they would, for he should like to see any one that would Nif l'ill. /NIEL LIGANCE. • dare to re-animate them. He bailed the • absence of ----. his Honourable and Learned Friend (Stephen),' PLYMOUTH, JUNE Is. though he should have been sorry for it on any other j Artirecititc Asnaostaette, OS puts, from Coning: Am,. occasion ; for it was evident his Honourable and i cutter, fronillasque Roads; and Moats r, of 10 fir lo m at 1 Falmenth.—mTlie Diteraanovue r, of es guru. wi e j e j, t io ,i ; Learned Friend had not been able to bring to witness the death of his darling offspring—the Or- 1 f ig s.'" w: 4llll°* r un f l ' s !, __," l ". th is day maul'hil'ulbedi meta:, to Portsmouth to be repotreo T • 1 ders in Council. The inquiry had been long and . POier4.lVlool4, JUNE ;6. tedious, but it had not been in vain. He disclaimed all 1 Tits Majesty's ship MA trip/ is appnintLti convoy fur ge n , idea.of having considered the provisions of the treaty and Halifax. • the Majesty's ship Loacuer is appeintala,,Z of Utrecht as part of the Law of Nations. The ! convoy to tit Dowag. • 'bailed the Dr.RTZIOUS ise.b al 4 - 4 1 Noble Lord, he hoped, would withdraw his motion ' Fstaim..—lvißd V irstrrlYt . , [ . DEAL, JUbIE4I. of proceeding to the Orders of the Day, and explain . - . Arrived the *TITS hired armed utter, with dis a more distinctly what was the exact intention of trier ` - 6 ,d - phi a , k , I t b oo • 1 from lK",,L4frel .1 ; Ratio se tier. *lt a convoy vernment. He soggesteaf that the debate might Ist l which a're r @ai id for tile Mere; bantam man of - seaa' adjourned till Friday, that they might understand Pitrummeth, to joist the fleet ea Flushing; and remain** * each other more clearly before theycarne to a -decision,- shiPs rinl , rreell:ortr scar Per We; . baL e led u Ina majesty's alp Ca,. Lord CASTLEREAGH must oppose-the Orders THAN r niftne nebk, s als cr te r tem schemata witha l ", voy for Plymouth.—Ni oil . . . of the Day to the Address, WhiCli he considered as an . YARMOUTH, JUNE to. unconstitutional interference with the executive Go. : antral the STARLING ganbrig from the Nom. vernment. Put the words of the Address covered ' ---- the proposition which he had suggested, for it recant.. • Pirr Cum.—Yesterday a numerous body ai l mended- to his Royal Highness to repeal or suspend filen& of the late Right Honourable W. he r d* the Orders in Cooncil. . . ' together at the London Tavern, Bishopagategrue, The question was then loudly called for, and the to commemorate t he annive r sary of the birthday Gallery cleared. No division, however, took place ; that distinguished Statesman. The ciimpany aean a. but we understand that after some conversation, Lord ed piincipally of Members of both Houses of P. CASTLIABAGII and Mr. BROUGHAM withdrew their anent. Thi Earl of Livenpoot, Lord Etoog, 11,, motions, upon an understanding that his Lordship was CANNINT, and many persons of high c o nsequen ce;;. pledged at least to the measure of the suspension of the Orders in Council.—Adjourned at THREE 0 deck. . !ended: The Marchioness of Hanrvoitp's rout was kelt sp 1 with nidiniinished splendour until flur o'clock yis. terday morning. Fifteen hundred cards wtre inset and nearly that number of fasionable effectives the distinguished summons, Their Royal ff.. nesses the hostas RECENT, and the Dukes of Coo; aratitoo and CAI.IIIII,DGE, honoured the uses** with their presence, which consisted of mat cf Noblesse, of both sexes, and other persons dirties ;ion remaining in town. The moms were befit* illuminated, ant decorated throughout with di choicest exotic plants, flowers, &c. *c. . Irish Patriotism !—On the 4th of June, 181 g. Armagh Yeomanry, after the review geoera6 on that day, laid down their arms, refusing any for to serve under their Captain, Mr. Jolts &um& ia, cause he had signed the Protestant Pelitiee to de Legislature, in favour of Catholic Emaecipatira I The Managers sad the whole of the Palomino the Leaup TILEATiR, have most handsomely vokeeteeed their Herod Semites to-morrow evening, for the book ofthe &kik PM Ws In Franey. Mr.' Bantam, with his mod Inerality, Om pis pepfestional as.istaece gratis at thiecendilla aid fril k the " Death of Nelson" Madame Baavuservi *maga will also de ight m English audience wish the WOW his original of Hope told a lotarestg tak." is shot, Ft* to theleanour of aN the performers she hew prooled Mt coifed efforts, they bave made a pelts otuatribettag ~Oil in their power to the (and, by saltine( newasslwe lodge 1111 and most approved characters. The Moue ea. le SlleA overflow in every corner. ~ 1 HAVAARRRT T Last night the Manor i a l ; favourite piano( Summer am•tsement, presented the an additional novelty, in the brat appearing! of 1 Mr. Naomi, as Lattis, in the QesSer. His voice is good, sad WI wide portment was suet to to secure him a coast/lank_ penile it approbation. Mr. MATTNZWII. as Selene, the Qtager geet and afterwards in the ludicrous characters of the Slapsesal al Crate, kept the house in a continual rear of laughter. Mr ZIA whose versatility of talents certainly r. takes him out eilhilog useful performers nn the stage, also appolefoleticrerelesifeSSO doff:rent eharaciers.—His songs in the Q. 04. wen ime liar gator manlier; and the " Lads of the Iflllege•soisidll strongly of the late Mr. BANNISTRR. As .flogittok la ds Siest-Weller, be bustled through the. am Goodman Mbar siderable ease, and Added much to the general drics= piece. In the Tut-atilt-Cate, which @occluded the am rnents of the evening, Mr. K aer's line deep-toad Ids ell again -displayed to great advantage, 'and his m 10 1 4 . V was loudly and deservedly encored M 11.134rry.—Ey a letter from our Correspondent a s tryollk we fi nd, that the Town is all alive since the arrival of . lent feentserly the nee: Rorriar. He made his 464 on VIAINN *le, In his favourite character of 'Wawa. Nothin g eilidslito the enthusiast* applease with which his performing vit a aired,. when his name wm *unmixed for the awnoowk a geMPW expresolou of pleasure manifested Itself *wit 1 ° sod naval characters in the country. Mrs. Moors, tea -inalluble d with whi chb t w he al lirst am n p ig med bt hifmaTit e llis at ePPrw° l°l6. int 1114:11/ ' * is the tragic heroine. She is an actress greats, S , aid lien delineation of Ziaiir ap e r =iiimisli.ht• 40 *Own timeline flattering marks 'of c = l 3 been needy ileekkd sins* Mr. L's=l* 4 1 ta.t:te_t_tn,!_atha she eellePi el Geedis nit IMO on 'NWT sen se than have been *ma, as yet, Megaitn : . A.. ' CAlli 'tsif BowLea.--Cirtmitarsera havil ie te gi# l 6 ll prevented liskelie frees bag iwoeght iso to 4Pouee-ookoi dee siwesaminesise. die ressaiesiomet Ili. has taken piatjeoed the irbobionatinealnieadegaisalP ool . and give evil erase at the email% CIALD4ify Sindana. ! 4 ' Wittman Silage Sesame°. a •pety of the 'Nobility and poetry meired . 7l .l 7 where they will take up *dr abode, as velure( tit :Bedford, des the three days of titiehotiovidei • . the from all puts of the Dated ~ - • beveq (Alija* ' 'y sat down with ilk Orate to an ao. Monday month* at twelve, his Gram, encoded by •v• • weal down lo Park-earns, and met ahem a great the Celery-aid e ats et the maeostoding , cal employed them ves for the moraine tat *wall_ kalld_.• . the capital bos4.-down tops of his Gene's Mat ler __....a. talk darrisseier I and Devon Oxen, Re. ' At Eve ditererz. Mllooll*sitd‘Ablssy, and alter dinner, ' seuesaisi if* a"' . 01141".. Mlle Priem* it the ales of vainsisle bra Ink ' fit2:-VoRN-mautcfrr, MARNpLANR, Whil *. '" 70-day the Market has few further womb d whaable remaining soppily', partly from tie Nor* 11 1 1 0 ad had several fresh buyers, from dhow torook4 Maim the . petal lamed—Rye is tisawr-•Batley NW rat her highar-.-Peas dad Ikaisi at the *Oran ow% to vary but little—the e=44 , •are sales thereof are gamed; esjp•--Mist at advance Of Ss. per Mak. -• •'. • . " ' • Wheat, 100 s. liit. tile. looms TOP. Win phis ditto, 830 s. 1 Si., Tick dela, 110.74 i. . Rye, UK 901. Odts, 474. SS& 55' ' Fluky, 6.55.715. Od. Poland ditto, 575. Nit Mak. itt. 1001. ' Potato* ditto, as. OIL - . White Ness' (Hollers) nos Ns Rape &id . .ett A& .. i - Pine Fleur, 1 1 Ss. 1 206.-41ernmods, 1102. nrejet......2 THE EVENING STAR. LONDON. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 17. • PRICE OF siocKs THIS DAY AT ONE O'C!.oo.lg. 3 per Ct. Red. 561-4 per Ct. 72i S per Ct. Cons. for money shut—Ditto foe opg. 57it S per Cent. —Long Aim. —.beads ss. 7s. die. • Lula. BiII 3s. 4s. dis.—thossioun 1 f pra fa slim ming, .- ,01111Staiiiiii eft prevent • r-r. • - . Lau; SPIII at Olt Itir - • .. ;. • • t : • jilt • mo s. mill, mow . r THE ORDERS IN COUNCIL. It will be seen from our report of the debate in tl•' House of Commons last night, that Ministers halm determined to rescind the Orders in Council ; bet they mean, most wisely, as we think, to make this measure contingent on the repeal of the American Non-importation Act, and to hold ont the threat of similar regulations, if France be permitted by the Americans, with impunity, to commit those disgrace- Jul aggressions upon the law of nature and nations,' by which the conduct of her Ruler has been ever distinguished. The Gazette of Saturday will con tain a Proclamation to this effect. The termination of our disputes with America is thus at hand, and we trust there is not a human be ing on either side of the Atlantic, who will not raise his bands in thankfulness to Heaven for the concilia tory disposition which the British Ministers have mani. I tested. Without entering at all into the question of the policy or impolicy of the Orders in Council, for the discussion would now be fruitlesi, we hail even their temporary repeal as a blessing conferred upon 1 mankind in general. The tirades of the French Jcuraals, and the factious spirit of the admirers of French principles, both in. Great Britain and Ame rica, had certainly rendered the retaliatory measures adopted by the British Government unpopular and even obnoxious. They were eagerly caught at as a subject of popular clamour, and to which cal the die. tresses of the poor were ascribed. The opining of the trade with America will now prove how far the conclusions drawn by most indivi, finals from the evidence laid before Parliament have . bows° . Threct ; and most sincerely din*. hope that fat revival of a brisk traffic between the.two countries will raise the drooping spirits of our Manufacturers, and give bread to the thousands of our fellow coon -4 trymen, who discontak Cie. will not saylisaffec-- Lion) is described as hating arisen from thninterrup- Lion of our intercourse with America. But the beneficial effects of this magnanimous cen t . ; cession, on the part to circ4 Britain, will be felt. fair i beyond the limits pf s i be *lash Invite. If it be ' true that there exists iet.diaansica a Freisch . factinn, always alive to every thing that can produce a 'up., tnre between the two &entries,' the 'fulcrum upon which they rested their"; fliolitiiitlii'otiw . iviiiizred, and the President of the Vatted Suttee inpstaippt re. I trace his warlike steps, and resurne-awlangease and , the attitude of peace. France, ! ste Inive fit! thot, ' will continue to burn, sink, and ditsfihy ile defence; . - . ' * -4 is ' ^ look• less American Merthantmeins,tiamtb at •Wn ' forwar4 to a revolutioo in the" poppiar sentiment in America, cued:. Great Britain will . then no longer i have to contend singliaanded 'against the common enemy of civil.societY:''WVertist that the sober, the' enlightened; and die weel4y, pail of the American population . "(we mean the. Federalists) will now re: eumetheir legitimate pttponderwitet in the-Cntmoili of their country. The real motives for the Waiter ing documentit %filet Great Britain, Which higgi issued . fret° the 4 1 1 A s c i r atic party in the Uninia(t3tetes, will - then_healitclosed,ansithe.ipportantiliiiniaiywfil be ancient what are Trait the tree interim" titAisterlia. - ' . . . : ••••••••••••••111MI