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A NCA RTY said, io co ns equ e nce o f i t loving Seen st ated by the Noble Duke at the bead of his Majesty's Go- "Aliment that the liberation of Rneas Donnell was with the inieitledge and consent of the Government here, by reason of the lispoickuis report of the state of that. pereon's health, he rose to give ounce that be would to-morrow move for papers respecting his release. The Earl - of HA RROWBT thought, in consideration of the' weak* which stood fur to morrow, that that was not the moment toe introducing such a subject. He therefore requested the Noble Lot to defer his motion. : Par E.gl of CLANCARTY bad no object in mentioning to- Morrow for bringing fiarwatd the motion of which he had given ninket,•nekr did he whir the appointment of any particular day, her he thought the sooner he.a.uld britig the subject forviard the better. The Duke ,of wm.;4l.N.c•roN could have no objection to the told, trod ni , .ving for tke production ,of those papers to• morrow, or any other dAy he thouglit'pristier ;' %tut tomeutudoy the Noble Lord klaould bring tur.444 his illilitienolliklAwkolld:think it his duty to object to *ben. priolw3ioß7 .yhe.liaTl of cpt spot ILTY f fq44l. see no reason for the Noble Ditke'r objettionj but 'if it was the Noble Duke's intention to oppose the prndiectitin of*hore papers, then he would make his nantoo iustant.r. • • .Tbq Marquis of LA NSDO WN suggested the propriety of the noble Earls di (erring his monism until Nionday, winch would give Ike Noble Marquis (Anglesey) an Opportunity of being present, as be did not perceive that Noble Lordnon in his place. lie IMtae of RICHMOND rose inereiy to say, that the Noble Signysisiwastrt in his place so-day in consequence of his not be teg well, and egefifre he would take the liberty of suggesting to the Noble Rat to put elf his motion until Monday. At the same tame lie was desirous of stating to the Noble Earl, that, whenever he Mought forward ilia motion, he (the Duke of Richmond) should r(tiith,R. his duty to object to the production of those papers. Atter At few words from the Earl of Haattowar, Lord Goat ens. and Lord FARNHAM. the Fart of CLANCORTV aJOIICattd to Osis-rf Ms motion until Monday. Tice Earl of•TA LMOUtli said be believed a Noble Earl Lisideo) had 11.. d his noose inscribed upon their Lordships' List for the purpose of presenting a Petition fro% the inhabitants of Li 'sellout against granting further Concessions to the Roman Ca Moises, and he ruse fur the purpose of stating that he bad that day received a note from bit Noble and Learned Friend, in which he stated that be was pretested. from bring present by mason of ill health, and requesting him to have his namy put on the list for to morrow. lie had. therefore, to ask their Lordships permission to'do so "—The Noble Earl's name Wag accordingly inscribed for tO•111011•09t. The Duke of RICRIIOND preseated a Petition from Brough &gamic greeting farther Cuncesaieus to the Roman Catholics—Or- d. red to be laid on the table. Lord GODER ICH said he bad a Petition to present to their 11 ."thinPii 'ln favour of Catholic Emancipation, 'from the same peeves...s* whaler die Petition came *Web his Noble and Learned Friend (Ilse Rail of Men) gave notice that be would present this day. He regretted that his Noble and Learned Friend was pre vented hem presenting that Petition by reason of ill health, and be thittight, in courtesy to the Noble Earl, be was bound to put off the peosanation of his Petition until the Noble Earl had pre sented his. The Earl of LIMERICK presented a Petition from four Palettes in the county of Clare, praying for Catholic Emancipa dori.=-OrJerrd to lie on the table. . 1 % 0 •bl LANSDOWN presented a similar Petition met sorisiris Dersetsbire. 'ls Karl of MANSFIELD resented two Petitions against Falling further Caucasian to the. Roman Catiolics.—.ordesed astern the table. • 'as 11410 WINCHILSBA presented foot similar Peddoos.l from an individual named Samuel Flying from -Coleman's Bridge. Norfolk ; and from two other places.—Ordered to lie on the table. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented Petitions from dill Roman Catholic Clergy of Oseory, Dublin. and Limerick. againit the clauses in the Catholic Relief Bill affecting Monastic Orderer» Ordered to lie on the table. r Lord KING pretested a Petition from Manchester andlialforti in favour of the Catholic Relief Bill, and against the Bill for Dig: franchising the Forty Shilling Frieholders.—Laid on the table. The. Deke of SUSSEX said be had the boomer to present to' the ' House a Petition from the Rev. George Armstrong, of Cross:lBbn. in the county of Down, to which be begged to call their Lordships' attention, because he considered it to be extremely important, shim it came front an individual who was known to many of their Lord. ships to;have for a long period contested' the question. The Peti tion was in favour of the Bill now io progress through the House for relieving the Roman Catholics, and its language was so power- i ful and worts, that be begged leave to read it to their Lordshipo.l His Royal Highness then read the Petition at length, which was laid on the table. Lord BEXLRY . begged to call their Lordships' attention far a few momenta to a Petition which he had to present from a parish in the county of Renfrew, the object of which , was, in the Ant place, directed against the Bill for gr a ntin g further e political power to the Roman Catholics but it also claimed, upon the faith °eche Treaty with Scotland, :special eiMption infirrout of that country. They represented the Treaty of Union .with Scotland robe a leel protection fur them against Popish power,, and stated that tie ex clusion of Papists was an original,; fundamental, sad an undeniable part of that contract. Whatever, therefore, they should• deein proper to do with reference to any other part of the kingdom, they claimoda• emeritus on the faith of that Treaty. At the Noble Lord's request the Petition was read atlength,aml, was laid on the table. Lord CLI FOEN presented a Petition front the Protestants of :Waterford against the clauses in the Roman Catholic Relief Btil which interfered with Monastic Orders. The Noble Lord sup ported the prayer of the Petition..--Ordered to lie on the table. Lord TEYNHAM presented a Petition from the Forty Shilling Freeholders of Catlingfnrd, hi the comity of Louth, 'pint the Forty Shilling Freeholders' Disfranchisement Bill.— , Ordered to lie on the table. Lord KENYON presented five Nikko, front parishes in the county of Carmarthen against granting further Contentious to the Roman Catholics—Ordered to lk on the table. I un sown ennuis° ritatiounm. The blarquis. of LON DON DERRY said that something iced falleu,.on a former evening, from a Noble Marquis, not now;in the House, with respect to the number of forty shilhng freeholders re gistered in Ireland, which be (the Marquis ot • Londonderry) then expressed his dissent from. k Return had since been made. per main to the Order made by their Lordships, from which it ap peared that the number of forty shilling freeholders in Ireland did not amount to snore than half what some Noble Lords considered. The number had been stated at abOut 480,000; but he found by the Returns that there were not more than 217.000 forty shilling freeholders in Ireland. • For his own part be was of opinion that the franchise alight be advantageously confined to those only who held freeholds of the value of 151. or 201. and if aqy other Noble Lord thought proper to move an amendment to that effect it should have his support; but he would not interrupt the progress of the 818 by moving it himself. The Quke.of RICHMOND observed, that the Noble. Marquis (Londonderry) had not taken into account the number of free 'holders, nor those in counties from which no return had been made, when he stated the whole number at 217,000—(Heir, hear). Lord HOLLANDisrevented a Petition from Chelmsford In fa vour-of the Catholic Relief Bill; and a petition from LiVerpool against, the clause of .the Bill for the regulation of.** monastic orders. • The Noble Lord thought the Hosue would do him this" credit to believe that the clause t o which the petitiOn referred wea ns* that part of the Bill with which be was shoat in lore. * He though the. prejudice which existed in this Protestant poetry against members of monastic orders was very unfounded, and he had only to hope,that the clause to which ; he -alluded would be eternised with mildness and clemency when it became the law et the land.—The petitions were ordered lb lie teat table'. On the motion of tbk Duke of Watuninon the Annual Indem nity Bill went through a Committee, and the Report was ordered sobs received to ',sorrow. 111111 ill VittEIfoLDIRS . QUALIPICATIpII BILL. The Duke of WEELINOTON moved the Order of the D 47 foe the. House going into Committee on the Irish Freeholders Q,nalilicatio• BBL • The Marquis of LANSDOWN would feel great re gret it he had felt himself obliged to offer any inipedi meat to this Bill; and if he deemed doing so he wish d expressly to state that it was because he felt no objec tious to it, as he . bad made up his mind to throw no obstacle in the way of its passing. However, bethought he would better consult his own convenience and that of their Lordships, by expressing his opinion on the measuee before their Lordships went into Committee. This Bill affected one of the most important privileges of the people, and was therefore Ivor* h y of theirLoidship s most seams, consideration. Some of his Noble Tr lends bad stated that they supporte&. this Bill upon its own merits; whilst others gave their support upon the merits of the other measure which accompanied it. Now, he (the NI 41 quis of Lansdown) was not able to agree with eitner of those parties. The part of the Bill which was prospective he supporteeentirely on its own merits. It did not. require the evidence afforded by the late elec tions to prove to him that . some alteration was necessary in the elective franchise in Ireland. The retrospective effect of the Bill, however, was to be considered on grounds entirely distinct. In fact, by rendering the measure retrospective, they were legislating upon the principles of a penal enactment; and, before such a measure was introduced, he conceived that their Lord ships ought to have been in possession of a much larger' share of information. The elective franchise was a ' tient ; and, however little valuable it might be to the linty shilling freeholders, it was a right in many in stances feisty acquired and honestly exercised. The chief ground on which -this Bill was advocate) was, On it rendered the general measure before Parliament complete; but he d subted whether any advantage would wise from rendering the measure complete which would compensate for such a violation of principle and such an evasion of just rights. Sane time since he (Lord t..) bad carried a Bill through that House for the purposes of taking away votes given in common, and upon joint tenancy. That Bill a as founded upon a pi in ciple the justice of which was obvious ;* but yet the Bill was prospective only. He had great difficulty in assent ing to a summary measure like this for depriving the forty-shilling freeholders of Zeeland of the elective friths chile. It was only because he not only approved of, but applauded, the general measure of Catholic relief, that he was prevented from giving his decided opposi tion to a Bill containing so objectionable a principle,' sad which woold be so very indefinite in its conse quences. He said indefinite, because there was a great inequality in the number of persons exercising the 40s. franchise In particular comities; and it was therefore impossible even to guess at the effects of the measure now in contemplation. In his opinion, it would hue been much better if the measure bad been gradual, ra ther than immediate. It was almost übiversally allowed that one of the great evils of Ireland was a superabun dant population.. One ground on which be approved of the prospective principle of- the Bill was, that it tended to diminish this evil, which evil had been greatly aggtavated by the practice of letting out land toe the purpose ,-f increasing the number of Towson ell estate. Now, this practice, undoubtedly, was highly objectionable; but then it was one thing to create a number of small holdings, and trooper to sweep-them away at once after they•bad been creased. •His opiaies • was that the present measure would operate too strongly, and induce the landlords to act upon a sweeping pro cess, by dispossessing great numbers of small holders at once. No situation could be more difficult than that of an Irish landholder, a part of whose estate had been held for a long time by a middleman, and who found, when the lease expired, that his own interest required he should banish a great number of the under-tenants ; for banishment it should be called. It required not. only strong nerves, but nerves of iron, to dismiss Ihe whole population of an estate, without any place of refuge or any means of subsistence being open to them ; and, however conducive it might be to the interests of landlords, he trusted that none of them would clear away more than a small proportion of the population at once. He apprehended, however, that 'this Bill would be an additional inducement to landlords to get rid of the surplus population too hastily. They should pause, end consider well. however, before they acted violently. either under the provisions of the Sub-letting Act. or tinder the inducement to be !wind in this measure for raisin's the'qualification from 40s. to 101. The popula tion affected hy such a proceeding were the people of the country, and, as such, *ere entitled to the con;ide• ration of the landlords. Having expressed these sesti matte it only remained for him to add, that he would not tbrow - any obstacles in the way of the settlement of Chi. great question al Catholic emancipation by pro posing any amendments to this Bill in the Committee; and it was perhaps less accessary that be should pro pose any amendments, because he was convinced that it would be found the Ball would require some amend ments in a future Session. The Bill certainly gave very great posers to the assistant Barristers. but it did not very clearly appear that this power could be safely lodged anywhere else, and the objections made to the Bill on this ground would be obviated in a great rues sine if the appointments to the office of Chief Barrister were made on every occasion free from the exercise of all local influence. Under these considerations he would abstain from offering any resistance to the Bill in Coot mittee. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY was desirous of saying a word in explanation. It appeared from the Returns to which he had previously referred that there were only 191,000 forty shilling freeholders registered in Ireland. There were three counties. however, from which no Returns had been made; and for these he al lowed the difference between 191,000 and 217,000, at which he had stated the whole number of forty shilling freeholders in Ireland. Of that number. however, he was firmly convinced that not more than 100,000 would be entitled to vote at elections, a consideration which must be satisfactory. . Earl BATHURST said, he never could have come to the resolution of supporting the other measure for the relief of die Roman Catholics if it was not accom puled by this measure; and he might add, that. he would have considered this measure altogether unjus tifiable if it was not coupled with the other measure. Having said so much, he might be allowed to stare the reasons why he approved of Vie retrospective principle contained in this Bill. If the Bill was not re:rospective he feared it would be laying a ground for fresh excite ' ment in the country. The Roman Catholics having been so long excluded from Parliament, would natu rally feel en ambition to have strati in the House of Comnions, and would depend upon those freeholders as the means of getting into Parliament. The influence of the Catholic priests had been much talked of. and he (Lord B.) was of opinion that the Catholic clergy men had as good a right to isterfere in politics as der.' gymen of the Established Church, if they did not use that power in a manner inconsistent with civil liberty and with the doctrines of their religion. Same Nsble Lords denied that the Roman Catholic priests had exer cised an improper. infleence over the forty-shilling free holders, but, whether they had power or had not, the franchise was injurious to the freeholders themselves. Now, if the Bill was not retrospective, the effect must be that the freeholders now possessing the franchise should retain it during their lives, and that a number of new freeholders would arise under the new Act. It was quite clear, therefore, that great inconvenience would arise at the am general. election by the old free. holders and the new freeholders voting. The Catholic Gentlemen, too, would naturally make use of the influ ence of their priests to assist them in getting into Par. WORM ; and in this way that religious animosity would be revived which it was the great object of those mea• sures to put an end to. In such a contest, the freeholders themselves must suffer, for the only manner in which the Roman Catholic Gentlemen could exercise their in fluence over the forty shilling freeholders would be by fighting their opponents with their own tenantry. If the operation of this Act was gradual the effect would be that a greater number of forty shilling freeholders would be in existence at the next general election than at any subsequent election; and therefore it was rea sonable to suppose that a greater number of Roman Catholics would get into Parliament than at any subte quent time; for it was impossible not to perceive that there mould be a great anxiety at the next general elec• don to try the strength 'of the Roman Catholics in lie !and. An unusual number of Roman Catholics there fore would come into Parliament at the time when Protestant jealousy would still be excited ; and the Roman Catholics who had obtained their seats by the influence'of the forty shilling freeholders would find it their interest to preserve the forty shilling franchise, and to keep up the system •as it now existed. There would be a bond of union, therefore, between the Ro limn Catholic Members of Parliament, who would, by this mean., be induced to-give their support to one or lother of the political parties which might then exist, upon the condition that that party should resist any measure for the suppression •of the forty shilling fran chise, or, in other words, that they should repeal this Bill. In 1798 the Roman Catholics asked the limited right of •oting out of freeholds worth twenty pounds, which was refused them; but in the next year the elec tive franchise was-granted to them without any limit.- tion. . He (Lord Bathurst) admired the moderation of the Roman Catbolicsin aiking for such a limited power, and also the liberality of the Protestants in granting more than they were asked ; but he believed both the demand and the grant were made upon prudential con siderations. Tile Roman Catholics thought, when they asked for the limited Malaise, that they would get no mdra; and the Protestant landholders hoped that, by extending the fraichise, by means of their own influence over their tenantry, they could neutralise the power of the Roman - Catholici. Aitheir Lordships were aware; however, tha 'power of the landlords had lately been ' turned against themselves. It was much better, he thought, therefore, slit the Bin should pass in its pre sent shape, for it the Bill had not an immediate effect. it would prevent the final adjustment of the general question, which all patties must admit was maps de sirable. • The Hargolsof LANSDOWN blade a few observations lb ex planation. The Eirluf HADDINGTON was not insensible to the evils of the resisting representative system in I , elsnd, and would have been most ready to me for in inquiry into it, or to acquiesce in any proposal which nould remedy the evil without designing the franchise. He did not say the Bill would operate injuriously ; no the contrary, he hoped it would operate beneficially in Ire. land. But, however this might be, it would not alter hi. objections to the principle of the Bill. The Earl of WICKLOW confessed that his obji cfon to the retrospective 'principle of the Bill was only sur mounted by urgent necessity. Theie were some reasons, .however, which made it more desirable that t' e Bill should have au immediate operation. If the f arty. linjt freeholders were allowed to retain the franchise for some time, it would give an opportunity t the It ins4n Catholi.; agitators to force themselves ii.to Parliament. This would he no es it to Parliament,or to those persons ' who got in, but it wo uld be a great evil to she fir y. shilling freeholders themselves, upon whose neck those agitators mould lot into Parliament. For his part, he could not condemn the conduct of the forty holders at the late electi ,, us, and as to the Catholic Priests he did not think they were meow than theland hMders. If the I a ty-uhilling freeholders did slot exert se their judgrueht in cho sing (semen the candidates, they had do .e so at .east by choosing between those whole dictation they should follow. In Ireland the tenants were generally greatly in arrear to their lanarrds, and when they voted contrary totbe wishes of the landlords, the latter naturally sought to punish them by pleasing for the arrears; and the situation of the forty-shilling freeholders would have been dread:al if they had not had the Catholic rent to resort to. By the Bill wh:ch was passed early in the Session an end was rut to he collection of that rent ; and as Parliament prevented the possibility of a recurrence to that rent, it was also r ,bcjutid to prevent a recartence of that state of things which. made the rent necessary. Upon these consister_f tions, and as a protection to t h e f or rt,• fi &hollers themselves, he gave his support to this IMAMS!, and waived his objections to the retrospective principle which it contained. The Duke of RICHMOND said he found something in the arguments of all ss ho supported this measure to jurify tie rejection of this Bill. His Noble relation (Earl Bathurst) said he would consider this meastne most unjustifiable it it was not coupled with the (Wee measure for the rel of of the R.,nian CatholiCs, and that he could not consent to the measure for tby tel clot the Catholics if it bad not been accompanied b) Ism mea .sure. Now he (the Duke of Richmond) could never consent to this kind of barter in legisistti.in;and would never acknowledge the principle that the Legialature should do a certain and immediire wtong for If e'sake of effecting a doubtful and remote good. Bat. Pik tool o.ing the forty-shilling freeholders ouAr.t to be disfranchised, he would beg to a k their Lordships what evidence they had f filing the quaification st ten pounds? Ile might say that it should he fixed at tive p , .unds. Other Noble Lords had slid that it she ud be raised to twenty pounds. The most unim,prtant turn pike road Bill would not have been passed throug. , 0 e House on such slight inqui•y. The only evidence thiy had upon the stibject was that .shich Mas gisen in the year 1b25 and did that evidence than tend to any at tack upon vested tights? The Bill which was In, Ul4l into Parliament founded on that eviCence did not got° d price those forty-shilling. freeholders Of their right to vie wl.o at present possessed it, or those field. it Li fee. For these reasons it was his intention to i. tits. duce a clause in Committee th..t the Bill stiou'ai he only pr. spective; and another that it should not extend . to freeholdeis holding in fee. With legal dto the nitioner of appealing from the assistant bar. ism' a, be thought these_ would he one good effect from it, that it was so bad that they would be obliged to matte the mite Bill; but what he principally o$ jected to sas - ihe pre• cedent which this Bill afforded. He would a k,. were there no forty.shalling freeholders in England who tleid their freeholds on leases ? Now, Noble Lords had ifs gued, that by raising the quit:pi:mom to test rounds 'novelty would be; reptesegte4; Was it piopeity..aftich was re P res "teCii,44.4. o ooB,l4:o, Pirstrio, sCh re there was witas. tuabtuatalleakianpooa idloping representa tion? No one eneilatittentleinettl Tit - the uunoti y with which he had voted the otherl a tlit,ol taking the Ptu lar side; but he protar,te4.44.ost sO dangerous a pre cedent. Their Lordships had tome to a drieintiant.o n that they had no right to disfranchise boroughs becaule they, were corrupt, and, even adniittiog the charges whiCh had been made against the. lorty-shilking tier holders of Ise.and, did nut the same principle rand good with regard to them? He uvula not take up mote of their Loidships' time at present. as he was sure they would a low one who formed one i f seventeen to speak oftener on the subject than one of one hundred and twenty two. The Eat! of LAUDERDALE, though he was one of those who strenuously opposed the dislranchisenetlst•tif the Boroughs alluded to by the Noble thought that the measures of the Government would be incomplete if not accompanied by this Bill. The Lbjeet of the Relief Bill was to tranquillize Ireland, and it never could be tranquillized while the Freehblders were subject to thd cosifltctiaA•interests of Protestant land• lords and Roman Catholic priests. The Marquis of CLANRIDARDE th• u .tht that those Noble L rds were mistaken avbe.tuppobed that the re ligion of the constituency of Ireland would be change'd by raising the qualification to UV • The country was Catholic, and therefore the constitnelicy mint hr:ca tholic, whether it consisted of 401. or Hll t fi eeholdert.- The priests would still continue to have‘4le sansfperet. He drought, however, that the poser had been much exaggerated. The Catholic Clergy, in consequence of their rank and education, had considerable iifiuence; but let their Lordships look to the instances whith they had of an attempt to exercise that influence in . oppr si lion to the feelings of the penjle. In t .e late elec ion in the county Clare, one priest oho had come fermata to support the Ptesidoct cf the Board dila& was de serted by his Rock and the unpatriotic priest shared the fate of the anti Cgfrolic landlord. In the year 1845 the charge whiih.wasa made against the forty-shilling freeholders wasi thaCtlre7 were the hols of tt.eir Lind