Star. — London, England, 1830-02-06 00:00:00

Uike. 1M PERIA 1, PA RLIAAI ENT, HOUSE OF COMMONS--FRIDAY. The .SOLICITOR•GENERAI. mowed for a return of the number of persons committed for contempt by the Court of '` Chancery. hit. D. HARVEY save notice that he would move, on the 115th laqtant, for a Select Committee to investigate the landed Revenue of she Crown. - Mr. TENNYSON moved for the Report of the Select Coin- PM Wee of the Howie of Lords last Sewlen. lifr. Alderman WAITH 1111 AN moved for Returns of &MA P educe eAported from 1790 to 11130. with its declared and effi cient value. -11 r. O'CONNELL presented petitions from the Roman Ca thodes of Killarney against the Vestry and Subletting Acts; and from the parishes of St. Michael's and St. Johr.'s, in the city of Publia, to the same effect. UM, 111.1.11.110ROCON's LITTIS Mr. SPRINn RICE rose to present a.petition from the mer -emit: and traders of Limerick. in favour of the opening the trade to India ; and. at the same time. he begged leave to ask a ques tion of : the how. gentleman, whom he sae, in his place, connected with the affairs of India. A letter had lately appeared in the public r tints, which , as it remained uncontradicted up to the pre sent time, he was obliged to consider a genuine document. It par- Totted to be a letter from the noble lord who was at the head of the Board of Control, add d to Sir John Malcolm, the Go- Verner of Bombay, and it contained several rem. rkshle expressions relative to the renewal of the Charter,- and to the admihistratioa of public justice in that country. He could not say more to par. the letter, satisfied that it could have escaped the observe riesn of very few members of the house, or. Indeed, of few WOW- ' deal. in the community. The question he had to ask way whe ther the letter to which he had alluded was a genuine letter or not j • and. if k wets genuine, was there any obiestion to have it laid be lose Parliament ? Mr. GEORGE BANKES said, he bad no objeetien to give an Vehe information in his power with respect, to that letter. From the eireumstances of a family misfortune; he had not for some days the usual facility of communication with the noble lord alluded to, but be had sufficiently distinctly to understand from him that the let ter ha.l never been intended by him to meet the public eye. Oa she contrary, it was one of the most private and confidential na ture ; and, even though he was acting as secretary to the board of which the noble lord was president, he bad never heard of it until Ms attention was directed towards it In the public prints. With regard to the letter in circulation being strictly genuine, or an exact espy of that which the noble lord admitted he bad written, he was not prepared to say, as the noble lord bad not kept a copy, so atictly private and confidential did he consider It, and so uncoil vetoes was he of any necessity which could arise of its being thus made use of. The noble lord bad written to Sir John Malcolm wish perfect freedom, and in the confidence that his sentiments were conveyed to toe honourable person alone. who would not divulge them ; and the publication could only bare taken place by one of the most shameful and base breaches of trust which had ever been committed. He had. in conclusion, to assure the hon. , gentleman that b if any fufther information were demanded, he was 'sot desirous to shrink from the inquiry, but rather to afford the rsitisfactlon in his power. . BROUGHAM said he was unwilling to enter on a Ma uston on the document until the exact KIM of the genuine letter were before the House; but. if they were any thing like those con tained in the letter now in circulation, Ise must declare that, in his opinion. tb. writer was totally incapacitated for the office which be held. Fie must enter his protest against the doctrine laid down by die hon. gentleman who spoke last, that the sentiments urged by the writer of that letter against the character and independence of she Judges in India should be treated without severity, because they were conveyed under the seal of privacy and confidence. Now be could only say that he felt the deepest regret that a person high in the confidence of his Majesty could be totted se weak as to per mit himself to indulge in observations of such a nature on these particular subjects which be bad selected. Mr, GEORGE BANKES rose to explain that be had ',ready expressed his belief that the noble lord could not state whether the letter in circulation in Ragland was genuine or not, because hr had not kept a copy of that which be had written; Oltd he would repeat that the document could never have bees Procured unless the basest violation of private confidence had taken place. Mr. TR ANT said he should be sorry to see the hen. member * Limerick found any motion on a document, however cursor 'silvery Its nature was, which had been put in circulation by suck ''dishonourable means. If confidential communications betweee public men were to be thus violated, there was a total end to that aoreservedness and harmony which were so essential to the coo duct of public affairs. Knowing, indeed, as well as he did, be felt sailed ups. to protest against any question being raised on such s feeedation. M. S. RICE said he wished, for the satisfaction of the hem. member who spoke last. to explain in what manner the document bad found its way into the world, but he had not the power to do so. The house bad nothing to do with that considervion. The piper was there, and that was enough for the BOOM of Commons. The noble lord who bad written the letter had committed a de cided breach of hi. duty—the person *tee broke the trust which bed been reposed in hitr, and gave the letter to the world. was ally culpable ; but the house would be KM more guilty it it to notice the fact when clearly made out before it. It wee a for the house to inquire how the document was obtained : lkere It was, and it must stand or Tabby its own merits. -• Mr. HUME said he waste possession of a copy of rho letter in guidon, whet had been transmitted to him from India. It we* sho published in every newspaper in Calcutta and Bombay. and it eras *eidetic that the object of those publications was to give Mr Jaen Malcolm a triumph over the king's courts. It had been spread abcoal. in every part of Bombay, that two individuate were . manage the Judge, and be . was likened to a wild elephant .brought to submission by two tame ones. Mr. GEORGE BANKES did not understand what doctrine tee hem member (Kr. Brougham) accused him of inculcating. He bad broached an doctrines, but had merely stated facts, in answer i t* the question st the hon. member for Limerick ; bur. if be were Iced with promulgating any. they would not amount to more than an uphtion be had offered—namely, that an individual should not be judged by his private letters, when the whole tenor of his public eepduct was Wore the country. ,It wag true that the letter in circulation in ealcutta differed with that published in London, but dime were no means of ascertaining which, or if any, were strictly correct, becange the noble lord had kept no copy of that which he bell written. Lt.ed ASHLEY said, as an hon. gentleman had been understood to say that private letters had been sent out to India to I:antrum, public documents proceeding from the Board; he must say, that so bog as he had the bottom to be connected with it, no such thing dad occurred. Mr. BROUGHAM said the whole face of the argument in fa vour of the noble lord was, that the letter was private. and strictly gnfidential. In his opinion It was oMcial in its tam, though illeaven knew .its contents were &ore inollicial than any . which hi had ever seen cotrieg from so high a quarter. But he ceofessed be beard it contended, with some degree of alarm, that the docu ment was jinni:bk. when he considered that the minister for India had thought piopee In such a shape to Inform the governor that the joliges should be made dependent on him.-s-(Hear.) It did norther the suture of such a communication that it was made in eonfidenU and priesey ; nor, could be comprehend 111 e necessity which Misted to 7 this sort of intercourse, between the Minister foe Eng land and the Isditial governor . If the lanceted bites obtained by t Itteseh Ist confidence three was no 'apeman+ of .kontempt too across for the individual who had procured it ; bat that was no Num why the uoble writer or the governor Auld be esocerated from their remandbiiity, or that the latter, in particular, should be roused for•the publication, u it must be from his neglect or eta degree (though he did not mean to make that charge) that time teeter was shown, atid thereby got Into Circulation. (Hear.) Who Ord_ Sir John Malcolm show it to, or why did fie show it at all ? He pa a suspicion h ld e, mind that the letter being in favour or Sir J. and spinet the ludges:•.sthat in it he was held up sod they were pat 4.yrt—that the letter came, in point of fact, from Sir J. filakelm. gin whatever blame attached tatty individual who committed the. lareseb of conlidence, that did not at all alter the ease, or excuse the noble lord for having written such a letter. . Mr. PEEL said that different versions had hum circu lated in India of this letter, which he understood were very ildhrent from the one published in this country. He had asked 1 1 his noble friend respecting it when the letter was published there. The noble lord • acknowledged that be bad wrken • hiler of that description, but be could not say that that was a comet copy of it, and it was moreover a letter wiltteu. hastily, said inadvertently. He (Mr. Peel) did not mean to say, that a public officer bad a right to write letter e to public functionaries upon piddle subjects, and afterwards*. screen himself from anint mw,„;,,,, in the plea ika: his brawn were private. The expression so In the wild and tame elephants. was but a hasty and inadvertent ' jots h seeded ins private bitter , and it should MA be Set Ilan the public MIMI' Ur bee noble frismi's Mfe Lard JOHN RUSSELL said that so satisfactory expleesdato of ibis matter bad been given, and that the house Auld consider *better the Individual who could write such a letter was fitted to ill the take whigess *misled. si r J. MAVjEiniTOSH condemned fw the strangest trans the notimeaticrjesdWd4 she letter to Which the meatus of the b et e. bed .akeli directed. He weld sot huh spas a latter !raps e ta . *sakket' of the . 11,1disliksard to a Governor le le. dbr (MOW O. Nob" Irobjectig. es p private Mum. Is wiiitoe this letter, the noble lord seemed to forget what was due to his situa ion. He would say, that If the noble lord should now come forward, and, in a 'steamer which could not be mistaken, and which could not be concealed, disavow the 'sentiments of that letter, supposing it to be genuine, such i disivowal, so made sod so published, would he, in his eyes, a great reparation of thi original' huts which he bad committed. If be could understand that any thing of that kind was In contemplation, be should be Ad to re ceive it ; but it was treating a matter of Brn rate importance with far too much levity, to say merely 'that the noble lord bad for gotten what be might have said 'respecting it. Those Rude jests which the letter contained, about employing a tame elephant as a decoy for the two wild ones, were not likely to be forgotten soon by she reader, and were in all probability entraven deeply in the memory of the writer. It was extraordinary that any public functionary should have written such a letter; but it was still more extraordinary that any public functionary should say that be could. not recollect whether he had written that letter ur not. In point of fact, it did appear to him that the noble lord, In saying that he hid forgotten what be bad written, had been guilty of an aurava tion of his original offence. Sir R. H. INGLIS said, that as It appeared front the public newspapers that a terrible domestic calamity ►ad been indicted upon the noble lord within the last few days, some ludelgence ought to be attended to bins, if In the confusion of the moment, he had stated that he did not recollect what be had written in a letter which be had sent to India nine months before, and of which be bad kept no copy. Mr. G. liA NK ES said, that as so much allusion hid been made to the forgetfulness of the noble lord, he would on)y say that the friends of that noble lord would have ill serval him if they had rested his defence entirely upon that ground. His forgetfulness was intended to apply to particular expressions in the letter; and really those 4xpressiuos appeared to him to have been very much misinterpreted by the newspapers. Mr. RICE said, that his reason for bringing this mat fett (a ward at this early period was, that the letter stated the intentions of Government with regard to the East India Company's chute/. The petition was then brought up, and ordered to be printed. . Mr. W. PEEL presented certain papers relative to gaols, which were ordered to be printed. MALT mama. Lord F. OSBORNE gave notke, that on thalkst Thursday after Easter, he would bring forwdrd a motion for referring to a committee of the whole house, the duties on malt and beer. WEST INDUS •$D INS lINITILD STANZA. Mr. ItOIIINSON.-1 have a question to put to the tight hon. Secretary of the Home Department of great importance. be question is, whether any negotiations are now pending between the Government of England and that of the United States, for the pur pose of renewing the direct intercourse between the United States and our coioLies in the West Indies. Mr. PIIEL —My answer is tbat a communication upon that subject has been received by his majesty's government (tom the minister of the United &ales, and that that communication is still under consideration. SLISIONAL 011111111 L These orders and resolutions were then agreed to. When the Seamus read the order relative to strangers, which is in them words:—" That the Serjeant at Arms attending this haute do, from time to time, take into his custody any stranger or strangers that be shall see or be informed of to be in the house or gallery, while the house or any committee of the whole house is sitting, and that no person so taken into custody be discharged out of cus tody without Use special order of the house." Mr. HUME ruse, and called the attention of the house to this particular order. It was an order of very old standing ; indeed it was su ancient, that it was disregarded in practice ; and he there• fore put it to the house Whether they had not now arrived at the time when they could admit the public to hear what passed within their walls—a privilege which it substantially possessed already, akhougb liable to certain penalties fir exercising it. So long as this was one of their standing orders, DO one could object to such a proceeding. He considered it, bowever, a great hardship,—he considered it as shutting the door upon all the benelcial results which arose from publicity. Indeed, when he saw what passed in that house, he saw enough to convince him that if their debates did not go before the country. it would be much better that the country should have no House of Commons. He therefore sub mitted to the house, that it should allow foe one year the suspension of this order, and see whether any evil was likely to arise from it. Mr. PEEL could by no means acquiesce in the proposition Which had just been mad. by the has. member foe Aberdeen. No practical inconvenience resulted from che•order standing ea their order book ; for the good sense of boa. members was a sufkient security that it would not be enforced without due cause. Every body knew that full publicity was glens to the debates which took place in that house. What might be the ceeseqoencee of the right of unlimited publicity, be would not venture to predict : but he doubted Whether the present uninterupted decorum of their •pro+ evading, could be maintained concurrently with unlimited pub. licity. Mr. lIUM/L—Perhaps the house would let this order stood over for a few days, In order to enable me to give the notice which the right ►on. Gentleman seems to think necessary. I should wish that the further consideration of this order may be postponed for a week. Mr. PEEL could not consent to that proposal, became it would seem to call in question the propriety of the existing order. He hoped, however, that the house would pause before it pined with the power of clearing the gallery.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUMS would net press his objection to the resolution at present. but would take another opportunity of bringing it under consideration. WALSINTAININ or eu. CUUNTIM Lord JOHN RUSSELL gave none,. that on the 2Sci In. atant be wonld move for leave to bring in a bill enabling the imp manufacturing towns of Slanebaster, Birmingham and Leeds. to mad members to Parliament. The SPEAILSR said that be had received a petition from Cork against the mute of Gerard Callaghan, Esq fur that city....or. dared to be to►en into consideration on Thursday, the !Sib. ILIPOIT ON TUB &DOOM. The Earl of DARLINGTON moved that the report ea the address be now rreelvaL Lord PALMERSTON observed, that be hod voted for the amendment on the preceding evening, because h appeared to.hint to embrace a fair statement of facts. But ha wished set to be understood by hie vote on that occasion, as either despairing ottht shusties of the country, or binding lamerlf to a eoneurrimee is those measures with which some ludividuals might think it proper that the amendment should be followed up. He did not look with despuix/ency on the situation of the country ; for when be saw 110,000.000 of active and industrious men enjoying the blessing of such a constitution as we possessed, placed on a five and fertile sail. and having the power to avail themselves of all the local advan tages of commerce, It was impossible but that ultimately the COOditioll of the cOuntry, tetruld be imptoved. His opinion was, that the distress arose, in a great degree, from the measures taken with respect to the currency ; and be thought if any man who voted for these measures did nut, at the same time, perceive that they must produce a very considerable alteration, that be eould.not have understood the subject. It was clear, that the return to a metallic standard was likely to be attended with certain difficulties; but if they would contrast the difficulties of the present day with.those shoes of dishess and bankruptcy which were created by various panics, it would be found that the pressure oc.caslooed-by the rettirn to a sound currency was infinitely leas than the mischief clecasemed• by the alternatioos incidental to the old system. They were, when the change was made, in the condition of a patient Mitering umiak a; severe disorder, without any chance of Mire, except by uudiegoieg: an operation ; sad who, it be had sot that arra to bear iliac operation, would suffer more vela the thanes of ithillia-1 order Perhis own part, bit threat was aosaleadeil fee ' the errantry lot a peruses/nit and noebeligeoble standard; iii4tOsee ' wean° mode of establishing It, except by proceeding as ih!ll o4 ree, west bad done. He therefore concurred, with great ssustactidlqvia last part of Ms majesty's speech In which a determiostroo tq ed. here to the present system was clearly expressed. (Hear.) theist stated his opinion en this point. he' felt 'blench called *tole aiy, that theta were rather topics connected with the speech whkela did. Dot give him satisfiction. Ha thought that the principles os; which the foreign policy of the estuary hid Woe conduced were exceedingly unforunate. Ho was of opiates that they were. alike injurious to the honour and interests of the empire. That. opinion, be believed. was not confuted - to himself ; aid he would ask those gentlemen who bad recently, paa.ed beyond the Weiss of this country, 'what sere the feelings mitertahied In ether states os thus subject? A time would, bowie*, tome fee dit.• cussing in detail those. interesting topics, and thendeee it was not his intention to go into them at length et present. H. was, nevenbelesa. anxious to enter his pretest on this ecomion, because. be feared that if this address were passed in general dhoti. it might be argued that it had received general acquiesneotie : and he thought it would be mischievous if it west set to &shield dualist, house entirely approved of the foreign policy of ininiaters• "rho speech stated, thee the *overbroad had dose their utmost to carry into effect the polishes jf the hesty of fora*" sad that they would produce. papers to show the. rqgrem of Now Degradregill, It was meet important to Greet Brkalsoik the siedelnentii Omaha that dun state Amid be decidedly Milo *maintain /Nail; asitlet it should not. by a artwited coons of policy, be driven bate titoarnie of thatpower which. since tip termination of die war whit Titritsy s . might tern her ambitions "views towards that ittet ter. Is the dm interest et Great /du* to give Greece the meant of Merin. els bet miablialuOrnu, and es rhyme her from beeensisi the Heim et military condom . He new mote to that pett r o b iyl orbit* related to the reetyptiden of Des MineeL. • RV, hem mawmaw to disco* thy propriety if mat rste pyrp, reign de feet.. merely because he had not mounted the throne legitimately. He had nothing to do with that question.— This was a different case, and one which affected the MUM of thlreceetry. The circumstances connected with it most be bosh in the minds of the members of that house ; sad, ekes the question of the recognition to which he alluded came to be teen• Adered, he *certainly slkold resist it, unless it mid be elosly shown that the est wield use Whet the hownce et the errantry. Don Miguel mold ow he viewed as m mammon sovereign. exercising his sway friedy and wkbest opposldash If be had returned the sword which be hod been odes assist hie people, to the scabbard—if be had opened the dominos where be had coo fined thousands of persons who were thoeskos to his fears aid suspicions—if he led been the matinshind end oomelestsd sove reign, there might have been rooms fee rwooloki. Bet let it be recollected, that the differences et the plum of the home of Bra ganca had not been settled-16k be susellected that a war was going on la Portugal itself—let k be moollested that there was a military government in the blend of Terceira, (an lampl part of Portugal,) in favour of the queen Donna Maria, end therefore Don Miguel could not be viewed in the light of an undisputed sovereign. This question most come under the consideration of th. house; and aerator, he should merely express his hope that government would panes beg and well before they took a step that could not be retracted. Then wee one subject which be thought it necessary to advert to hers—be alluded to the attack on the Spaniards of Mexico. The expedition which sailed against it was several Teen In preparation. The government of Mexico, knowing that prevention was easier than corm determined to frustrate the plans of their enemies by a dement on Cuba; but England would Dot allow that Wend to be attacked. U. then, on the one hand, England, at the Instance of the ambassador of Spain, prevented the Mexicans from invading Cubs. she might to have dealt out an equal measure of justice to the other party. England ought to have said. •' You, Mule*. shall not attack Cuba, end you, Spain, gall not attack Mexico." But the proceeding of this government was partial, and contrary to the principle ea which they had promised to act. As these questions would hereafter come under the consideration of the house, be would Dot make any farther observations on them now, but ►e would not lose the op portunity which presented itself to him of stating his dissent from the system on which the foreign policy of the errantry had been conducted. Mr. Secretary PEEL was of opinion the policy of his noble friend would involve the country is a war within six months. With respect to Turkey, the nialotenanes of its independence was to be desired even by those who did not approve of its barbarous internal government. This government had advised Turkey to fulfil her treaties with Russia, but never gave her any hope of assistance in her war with Russia. On the contrary. when eke refined to fol low our advice, we withdrew our minister' When the affairs of Greece were brought under consideration, it would be found that the treaty of the Stit July, had been faithfully totalled. The noble lord's advice respecting Portugal was, s' Go to war ro prevent Don Miguel being Wog of Portugal." But if the population of the country eared nothing about the pos sessor of the throne, why were we to interfere? Mat the period that may be selected, we should determine on his recognition. It will be a pure question with relation to the treaties between the countries. In his majesty's speech there are some parts in which the recognition Is mentioned. He had never concealed his opinion of the conduct of Don Miguel. He did not keep the faith he plighted to this Government. But it is as important ques duo whether his per weal character will Woo' justify us in refusing to recognise him. Don Miguel practically exercises the powers of government in Portugal, and his rule takes place apparently with the general consent ; every attempt to dis possess him bas failed ; at an early period he called together the ancient Cartes, and bad their assent to his accession. This was a body venerable for its antiquity, and its decisieo gave kis title a 'Arnim in the eyes of the people. They looked on that decision as the expression of the general will. The Wand of Terceira is a military garrison. which has declared for the young goers Maria; but it is a small island, far detached from Portugal, and not in the slightest degree influencing that kingdoms. (Hsu, hear.) Would that fact authorise us to force • soya ago no the people of Portugal? We desire that she may ascend the throw in obedience to her father's will ; but if the people of Portugal will set support her claim, it will fall to the ground. There were greet doubts whether Don Pedro had the right to give the crowu golds daughter • and all the Portuguese lawyers have decided in favour of Do n Miguel.—Higher consideration* than those of mere personal cha racter must rule the course of policy which a country like this will follow. We are not authorised to force a rejected sovereign on any country. Don Miguel is in ne shape sub ject to our authority. If we once commence a war of opi nion. we can never circumscribe its scope. The Noble Lord (Pale Emerson) bad, however. asserted that the Government of this country should have interfered to have prevented the invasion oat Mexico by the Spaniards from the i'laod of Cube. Now, be rti collected very well that his Right Honourable Friend (lair. Cana alas), at the time he put forth those able and powerful State Papers which were demanded from him in the tulAhnent of his duty as Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, always admitted the right of Spain to it out and undertake any expedition she pleased for the conquest of her colonies. although he dented to other nations the right of interference, which might be exerted, not for the purpose of re-assuming the legitimate authority of the parent state, but for the pupate of assisting either party, as It might suit their interests to obtain an advantage over the other.— (Hear, bear.) This he wee asalatied was the tenor of the principle laid down by his right honourable friend, and recognised by the house. But then the noble lord asserts, :bat although the right of interference was not exercised by the Government in protect Hezieu frogs the Spaniards, it was exercised on a former occasion to protect Cuba from the attacks of the Mexicans (bear). Ihd the noble lord, however, nut understand that these might be some circumstances so peculiar, and some consideradoos of such overwhelming importance, with regard to the connections and relations of England with the Isle of Cabs, as to justify a great departure from the toles which governed other portions of her policy, and not to be defended oat general principles. The noble lord ought to have a thorough understanding of every thing connected with the Familiar *imam of this country and Cuba before he ventured to illustrate his argument by • re ference to the ease of Cuba. Vu every saber oceasion be repeated Abet the government bad invariably governed itself by the principles which it bad recognised and although they had not, as the noble bed seemed to skint they were booed to do so. gooe to war for the pavan of preventing every act of which they might disapprove, yet he trusted it would be found that they bad not done any thing se forfeit the character or compromise the honour or station of the ermotry. MN C. ORA NT said, that be thought the right hoooorable gentleman (.Ur. Peel) bad certainly. without intending it, eery much misconstrued the nature of his noble 'r'end's ergo- Moot. He confessed. that in the present situation of this imiuutry, be knew mine whose prosperity, in every point of view, whether commercial or political, ought to be viewed with greater anxiety that Mexico and South America; and when be considered that these countries bad been for up- Wards of twenty years engaged is a struggle for the freedom they had now obtained, he ensfessed be Pohl not contemplate with patience for a =inept the prospect of their returning under the "leeporisat front which they had freed teens elves, nor restrain his feelings at any suggestions of*. policy which sordid interest might be brought to justify in exclusion of those higher, considerations which were to be found in a regard for national character and a dab* to improve the condition of humanity (hear!) These agog the questions which his table friend bad put to the right gentleman and his Majesty's government; and, toasted, berets the house was called on to sanction the which bad Ileum pursued, that an inquiry world treed se ertessive As to satisfy all, chit use Imputations %plea this country were unfounded. right bon. gent. had at tempted to contend, that the country moat have been engaged in a er /t it bad.attempted the interference required by the noble- lord, eild.deciared that it was the policy of this amonuty to abstain most eal#einly from all interference with other States. (Hear hear) `Wilde religious abstinence was to be observed, then he would ad bow it was that they had interfered in sae solitary ,such as that abetted to by his noble friend? (Hear.) — amble Maid bad proved that they slid use abstain from • now t and us a speech of great power at the close of tombea, which every Member who beard it most have vividly heyeeseed ea his recollection, he bad paved in media imam" OM the lenerference of this country had taken place le reference te de subjects of Portugal in a mummer the most emjesdbable I 'aid, he treated. notwithstanding what bad been said in Judi alien et-that act. that a further tagelry would produce some- Mgt more satisfactory than chin to be head in the sewn whims et papers preinad bee session in the House. Rem the few blots shrews sue elsewherre—frons the sows of fereadene esseadotim the ether bone—be soreheaded, Weed, that the teledoes edit semilary with Penedo' were abide to ale• Berge a rest char. It was now willapepsi a rat sits Mum* usurper at Ms heathen t lOU hod beefs she keeped Medal miefortenes—thee his character had bees reed/ ellmied by Model ; eat it was seem beehmatod that this mealy siege go/ eine rinse would be received into the Mesta et the lkirepeati mad ranked among the roma* tat Ihmos. N . . thus ego beide. - - lake sada. dean sestads & andbi sivels Cfrasibes polar Dienne (11Nr. IMO mew kr hdroades 41111 gbh pia j brvitio -aseintA lip 'skid wkik Malay hr those Isar sou . 1481 p a lraliff ik Mobs* aibit Ida* wield AM* iNsewssagi Obis ihs Imam d listrei iseV come stainless from the explanation. Before he at down he wished to advert to another portion of our foreign relations, which he conceived to he a little obscure. Lord JOHN RUSSELL agreed with his noble friend (Palmer. stop) in what he had said with respect to the conduct of this country in our intercourse with Terceira and Don Miguel. If the government had never interfered at all in the affairs of Portugal, it might, without any violation of propriety, have (like the United States of America) recognised the authority of the King de facto' on the throne ; hot, after it had proclaimed Donna Maria as the lawful sovereign—after it had supported her rights to the throne by the means of • British army—and after it had conveyeg Doe Miguel in a British frigate to rule ever Portugal usa ge certain conditions—after after all these acts of interference, It was too tate to draw back, and (contending for the propriety of up holding the principle of non-interference) declare that it did net matter a straw whether this or that sovereign occupied the throne of Portugal. When, with all this, too, it was recollected that de authority of Miguel was, in the Ant instance, supported by a British army, whose presence enabled him to Milker the troops of Portugal with creatures of his own ; and that a person closely connected with the present government, and holding under it a high situation, was more than suspected of favoring these changes ; and that by the consequences of these changes, thousands of de serving an d honourable men were either sacrificed or compelled t o abandon their country. He thought that the argument with rep spent to the righteeseness of non-interference, would be foend very difficult of support. The noble lord then alluded to the instructions gives by the government with respect to the landing at Terceira, and contended that they were without precedent in the laws of trations—(Hear. hear.) Even the government seemed to be sensible that they were adopting a course most unusual ; for in the Admiralty orders for the seizur e tide Portuguese. those persons who sailed for Terceira were stated to be about to attack Terceira ' although it was known that they re cognised the authority of Don na Maria, and that they would be re ceived wish open arms by those who occupied the island. He did sot wish, however, to descant More on these topics at the present mo ment, as the time foe their consideration was rapidly approaching , and he would, therefore, conclude by espressing his opinloos, that the character of England had been diminished, and its honour tarnished, by theta transactions. Portugal had been abandoned. after welled pledged ourselves to protect the Government of the rightful Sovereign. Turkey had been suffered to become a prey to Russia, or to be so crippled and weakened as to preclude the possibility of making any future effectual efforts in her defence. Sir JOSEPH YORKE feared that the house was too often in the habit of ioterfering betimes foreign nations ; and he thought the conduct of Mr. Canning and of the house towards Portugal was premature. He would, however, do the hon. member for Aber deen the credit to say, that he at the time implored the house to consider the steps they were about to take, or else they would get themselves into a confounded serape.—(a laugh.) It had hest also said that a paper corrrency could be im tablisbed on as Ina a basis as that of gold. The ho nourable member for Abingdon had been an advocate of this doctrine, bet however well he might tut his coat according to his cloth (a laugh,) he (Sir J. Yorke) was sure that the bus. member could sever effect such an object, and though. as a coo tractor, he had an opportunity of becoming a good calculator, and he hoped a profitabk one, still ha doubted whether be could euab nab a sound currency by »ado; pieces of pasteboard, and by stamping them with a King's head on one side and a tale on the other. He would support the address, from the full confidence which he reposed in his majesty's government. Dr. LUSH INGTON regretted the g reat mystery in which the relations of this country with foreign countries had been kept by ministers. The passage in the speech relating to Portugal left the country in doubt as to the policy of government towards that na tion. In fact, no person could now tell whether it was deter. mined to acknowledge Don Miguel or not. He also disapproved of the policy pursued towards the South American States. Mr. MABERLY said if the gallant admiral bad meant in his remarks any premised allusion to his (Mr. M.'s) private affairs, he loos it back with contempt. Perhaps be did nut think the Home thought he was called upon to make any observations, but from de nature of what was said, be could net remain silent. Sir J. YORKE said, he could assure the Hon. Gentleman tbst he meant so offence in what he said, and if those observations were unpleasant to him. be (Sir J. Yorke) was very sorry for it.—( Hear!) MABERLYIira expressed himself perfestly satisfied.—(Hear') Mr. SADLER begged to be allowed to say a few words, as no opportunity had marred last night for expressing his sentimeois on the variess topics which had been (Recessed. He should not. Ip• deed, have sow risen, had it not been for the levity with wide& the distresses of the country bad been treated by a right boo: gent. That was not the way in which they ought to be treated. Through the whole of theism semi* official men had endeavoured to show the existence of prosperity by statements which tic mid belonglog to an practical class could 'sadism They had the e* scantly repeated metaphor, that the son of prosperity was dieseling its ray, throughout the community. Hope was constantly held temp to the people. They could no law. however, aisle on hope; they must have relief. Ministers bed open ed Pandora's berg and let loom all the evils which It contained; and the only co4t isolation was, that bops was at the bottom Thu universality of the distress also was denied. Toro, however, to wbatemt interest they might, distress was but too apparent--(Hear.)--r In what situation was the shipping interest, the right arm tif this country, the impenetrable shield of our defence? Ask tie residents io any of the great ports. As to that vital sustaining interest of the country. agriculture, it was well known that tits labourers were suffering great distress, and that the farmers we* I ve. y generally living on their capital. It was said that there wio ' so increase in the capon of goods. But diddle manufacturers if those goods receive a remunerating price for them? Otherwise . . the increase in their manufacture was only an increase of toll with. out an increase of benefit. The only way to relieve the distr.* was to be acquainted with its nature and extent ; and he was soeyy to say that government had too long kept the word of promise les our car to break it to the hope. They were pursuing as igisisfef Mrs. Retreochnsent had been tweaked ; but if this Were the relief, why lead not the country bees indulged with It before on a He came from a Neighbourhood where tens of thousands could bear witness to the prevalence of the distress; and it has beep proved that in one great county the distress had been, sad coo coed to be. en the lacrosse. The pope, if they were thus treat would become exasperated, and then only the most fatal st would be taken. One great cruse of the distress was the return a value of money which had wafted 40 years ago, although in interim they bad incurred several bvadzed millioits of debt. They bad hired the public servants ni paper, and they kir», paying them In goad.-.(Hear. hear.) Mr. JOHN WOOD could take epos himself to say that UM meow numbers of the manufacturers in the north of England wens without food or clothing, and be did think that the sgrictikori* were not better of. Mr. ATTWOOD contended. that the present distress was e tended over every branch of national Wintry, many of which w completely annihilated. As a proof of this assertion, he could st that no great capitalist could be induced at present to embark money in any Misioess, although a grad deal was at present ti played : (bear). He was surprised to bear it said that the exist ing distress was but partial; be begged to rescind the house that there were row on the way to It numerous petitions all at which agree to this appalling fact, that the distress was only He thought it untorunrate that ministers should male his nea# utter a sentiment in direct opposition to the voice of the nation. (hear). These petitions to which he referred might be fairly presumed to speak the sentiments of the nation, as they d not emanate from a party, nor merely from any one or two bodies er classes of the people ; it was the vslce of wing.. tory, radial, t merchant, manufacturer, and agriculturist. He entirety denied that the rattan». which h ad been reed last night, could, in say gree, illustrate the state Ode trade of she country. They wen. believed, framed exclusively for the porpoise to which they were plied. He denied the returns of exports were any proof of the Mattel trade ; the fact was,that theywere framed.ost smooth* Nattiest ugh, the estimatedvalm of goods ; the house would be surprised thp some aiticks sf cottons were estimated as high as they had been 150 years age.—(heir, beam) He would state that the mote extensive were these ezportedess the more general wu the ruin which they caused. However emildently ministers may es met that the currency would not be denied, be asserted co* dentty it• mast be shooged.—(Hear. beer.) nay could Fes support their prams wades under the present currency It was sot wields the reeve _et psdillitylilear, loser.) They had all a most added Minden tW the Mos phi towards • the support of the geuerwment by a way brie *dee of the people, were no Imam paid out of the empire of the earnings—ea of the prelims( dale Rimer. They ewe luaus new wrung Wit the roasts el the leant ; they were Mr drawn hs reality frees the sums of sehalsimuel the isheseeniserilly. The hem tweethew fur Liverpool bed lidemlled hil isieulles of Willis leeward this important tiseides, and he mad therefore pied. WNW to egos MOO obserradons ogle the subject. The pram Own** had am bees hums to theentehle. oar hod they hest honest to the * country. They hed hoes opposed to both interests. They bed um acted coasimmagy with the amoral welfare of the merry. He was opposed to the address, because It weld net he said to be el such a mature, when eseepored with the speech, as the skulk" ot the swami warranted. 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