Star. — London, England, 1813-06-19 00:00:00

I , t 4, !.4 '• . , r'. -- . wastage for herself, and in order to induce her to make thergenerous sacrifice, his Majesty's Ministers engage SO pay her one million of money by monthly in atalmnts, and to cede to her the possession of the hlsad of Guadalotipe. So here we have a tolerable 1 specimen of the distinterestedness of' Sweden in this transaction. But the Ministers of England carried their point. True, and what advantages resulted from it? The Swedish troops arrived in Stralsund just in time to witness two defeats of the Allies and the cap ture of Hamburgh, and remained the useless and im moveable spectators of the Armistice which has been recently concluded.—( Loud cheers from the Opposition.) These are the mighty advantages derived from a sub tidy of a million of money and the cession of quada ionpe I The sagacity which distinguished those stipu lations was equal to the probity which advised the Prince Regent to become a party to this Treaty.— (Hear, hear.)—But there are other advantages at tached to it—We are to have the right of, entre/at in three towns, namely, Gottenburgh, Carisharri, and Stralsund. Have we this right in perpetuity? —no, it is limited to the period of 20 years, while Swedes gets Guadaloupe for ever.—(Hear.)—Let us !M. pine the nature of this Treaty. It has been held by all writers on the Law of Nations, or the Rights of Peace and War, that when two States are at war, and one requires territory from the other, the acquiring State cannot transfer that territory until a treaty has taken place—yet while we are at war with France, and that no treaty that I know of has been entered into , t With that Power, we cede this island, one of the most :I 'valuable of any in the West Indies, and eminently cal . culnted, in thebands of an enemy,to annoy the trade 6f Ei,glancl, in full and perpetual sovereignty to Sweden. f ,—'l hen the right of en:rcpot which we have obtained , must be considered with regard to tis in time of peace ao lin time of war. If we suppose the state of peace, of what advantage is this right to England ? She can send her goods and manufactures directly to the Continent, and can carry on her commerce without the mediation of Sweden to enable her to trade with ea her nations. Let us suppose a state of war, and th 4 i France may have concluded a peace with the Pawers of the Continent on the condition of the re itif.,blisliment of the continental system—can the right It entrap*, in this case procure for our goods admis si. ti upon the Continent, or have any favourable ef et on our commerce? Therefore, in peace, thi s stipulation is useless ; and in wit it is unprofitable. But it may be said that it is unusu of for Parliametii to interfere with the decision or peace or war, 'as set tle:l by the Executive Gni:eminent. I grant it; but yet it h not unprecedented, and even if were so, it would be right on the present occasion, because the Treaty itself is unprecedented. : I know of no ' thing which can parallel v. ith it.—(Hear, hear). t I don't, however, go to the extremity of-opposing the grant which is necessary for the fulfilment of the sti. • "pulations which hav-.: been entered into ; but it is my ' intention to propose on Address wale Regent, praying :, him to se,pend, if he can, the execution of this Treaty. ' and finally to disengage hirisselr4roni it. When we vote this sum of money we enable his Royal High ; 'less to fulfil the terms of the Treaty—when we ad dress him we tell hint the opinion of Parliament, and , humbly advise him to redeem himself and the paint ) try, if he can do so consistently with the public faith and the 41nour of the Crown. I suppose he can en- l ter int)) fresh negociatiOns, if not, 1 intreat the House ' to consider the state in which England is placed by • the 7th article of this Treaty—[Here the R;glit Ho stouratsle Gentleman read the article.] Do t'o: words mean the perpetual go uantee of Guadahaipe t o Swe den ? Was such an engagement ever made by arty ( 'country with another? Was a negotiation for a ge neral peace to have no effect upon it ? This nas unlike any of those offensive and defensive treaties which avere ordinarily made. The Noble Lord seemed to sig ' tidy some dissent. I should be glad, then, that he had expressed himself in an intelligible manner. What ! . 1 is referred to in the seventh Article of this Treaty ? ' The cession of Guadaloupe and Norway—and we ere ti' n' , account to derogate from the interest of Swe tlat nn thnse two points. But does France derive no 'advantage ftsam this Treaty ? Is it no justification of her acts to nave England accede to stipulations 'founded in violence and fraud ? Is it no matter of aexunation to her to be able to say to her accusers— is, I am not worse than England—she gives her mo rtney and her coliquests to confirm a Treaty by which nlie stipulates to rob a nation with whom she had no ileitis: of quarrel r'— How after this shameful Tre sty matt our character stand higher than that of France f .:—I have no hesitation in saying that it will appear Vror.• in the eyes of Europe—tor in France, as under Nill absolute Governments, the people are passive;— Fbut in a tree country, where the standard of national Sbaracter is high, is is in the power of the people to compel a retraction of those acts which degrade and disgrace them—or if they cannot recall, they can re ri probate them. If they do not adopt this course, if the House of Commons, the organ of the people, do 'not hiarir.their indignant sense of such proceedings, :they ts,•come partners in the crimes and follies of that Government when it was in their power to correct of patush. lii the present case, the stipulations were founded in force and fraud, and proposed to inflict a *lost palpable injury on an unoffending Sovereign. t do, therefore, beseech the House to pause-.not in Order to refuse the supply which is demanded, but to pray the Prince Regent to withdraw from a Treaty so fraught with dishonour and injustice.—(Hear, hear.) —Under these circumstances I will read the Address which I propose to carry to the Throne ; but I should first advert to a material circumstance. We have been taught to laok to Germany as the source of resistance to French oppression. All the Continent was to flock to the standard of indepen dence, and to rally round it—Hanover was to rise— klesee was to follow her generous example—all the ?libeller States were to follow—it wan to be a holy in- StltreCtican What is the temptation and protection held foith by the Ministers of England to promote ;his sacred cause I The temptation is the transfer of i part 'of this very Germany as a compensation—for hat ?—for an act of robbery. (Hear, hear.) The ' intection is the landing of an army in Stralsund.— out what port of Germany, I should like to know, sag In fianiish the compensotion to Denmark? I iresorne the Noble Lord knows, audit would really 6 is curic4te piece of information for the I3ouse—not, stipose,' . ihe•hereditart dominions of the Ring of oat Bntain:-•-tiot Hamburgh—not.the Hanseatic ::,as, , ns, nut thi territory runts' them---none of these . . .. .... . - • f • I.- t.if f f-; e: •.• _• last nitkdoned places I sm ziersulbsll. • gba know them, are several persons who art of a di fte- ntl opinion. (Hear, bear.) But it cannot be, for that was the spot around which the flame of war wet kind led for the regeneration of Germany. I can'..t credit that this town, which was the heart of the confede racy, was to hare been made an article of barter and to be sold, while her bravesons were shedding" their blood in the common cause. (Hear, hear) Such base and monstrous wickedness was impossible. The Address which I have now to propose is something longer than is usual on such occasions, but its object'!{ made it necessary to represent the circumstances which have called for it at some length." The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving an amend ment, leaving out the words of the original motion, and substituting the following in their stead : " That an humble Address be presented to his 'Royal Highness the Prince Regent, thanking him for having communicated the Treaty to the House; to assure his Royal Highness that the Howe would take the same into Its serious consideration ' • that it *as with deep regret the House was obliged to express it highest ciondehmatiou of the principles and policy of that Treaty; that it could not, without painful sensations, see the power assumed by Ramis and Sweden to dispose of the country of Norway, by taking it from its present Sovereign, and also to offer a district in Germany as an indemnity for the same; that in this nteasure *ere was &departure from the wise and honourable course hither to pursued by England, in . endeavouring to uphold the indepen dence of other States; that the House saw ne advantage likely to arise from this 7 reaty, and that the engagements contained in it possessed no present strength or future s,:eurity—inasmuch as it confirmed the 'hostility of Denmark, and would alarm and dis courage from making any efforts those nations of Germany, who must now behold as oppressors those men who had professed to be their deliverers; that the House must express its disapproba tion of the cession of Guadaloupe, as a measure calculated to raise additional obstacles to any future treaty of peace. But at the mane time, while the House felt itself bound to make these representations, it did not mean to withhold the supplies that were necessary for carrying part of the Treaty into effect That while the House placed the highest value on the honour of the Crown and the public faith of the nation, it entreated his Royal Highness to use such means as might be best calculated to suspend the execution of a Treaty so injurious to the character of the Government and the country." Mr. WYNNE seconded the Amendment. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that it was unusual in Parliamentary proceedings, in any censure endea voured to be fixed on his Majesty's Ministers, to at tach-that censure to his Majesty's Allies. That ex traordinary course had been pursued by the Right Hon. Gentleman ; and he would leave it to the feel ings of the House how far such conduct admitted of justification. The Right Hon. Gentleman had com plained of delay in laying the Articles of this Treaty before Parliament; but his Lordship hoped to prove that no unnecessary loss of time had occurred. The policy of the transaction itself must be estimated ac cordin4 to the state of the relations which existed 4 the time; and had Denmark afterwards acquiesced in an invitation to juin the Confederates, such acqui escence could by no means invalidate the utility of the Treaty under discussion. He strongly objected to the disclosures required by the Right Hon. Gentleman; for nothing was sat injurious to the interests of the coutAry, or lessened the confidence of foteigu States. House was well aware that there were many transactions which did not admit of publicity. As to , the objections that d;e Treaty was so lung withheld and remittances made to Swede n whilst Parliament Was sitting, be hoped he could satisfactorily ex plain, whilst he was willing to make every apology to the House; but, fro m fatalities *hicli may always occur—such as delay in the ratifications, he was un able to perfoi iu that tluty before the 10th of May. But if the co-operation of Sweden on the Continent could be considered of any use, it %mill not be wise to obstruct it from any want of means, or from the consideration of assistance from this country. To effect so eissirable an object, General Hope was empowered to advance a part of the subsidy, and for tl:at purpose Mr. Thornton made a payment of 2°0,0001. Sweden was to be acquitted of all delay in fulfilling her engagements. She had sent her forces to the stipulated point, with an expedition truly admirable. The Swedish troops were at the points of embarkation long before they were ex pected; whilst, by the activity of the Transport board, the requisite transports were dispatched from' this country to Gottenburgh, three weeks before the time appointed ; yet they were prevented, by con trary winds, from proceeding for five weeks from I that port to Carlscrona. His Lordship then attri buted the opposition which burst forth on the Con tinent, to the splendid victories atchieved by the British arms on the Peninsula. These encouraged Russia to assert her independence, and to renew her relations with this country. France went to war with her upon the very principle of the Russian Govern ment not engaging in more active hostilities against England. When Bonaparte determined upon his Northern war, be invited Sweden to assist hint with 40,000 troops ; and offered, in return, to secure to her the recovery of Finland, and to assist her in the acquisition of other objects. In that crisis of the fate of the North, she rejected the tempting offer, and generously preferred making common cause, and incurring common risk, with Russia. But to enable ker to carry into execution her engagements with Russia she required Norway as a military security ; for aaaang as Denmark remained the ally of France and subject to the controul of Bonaparte, Swed en I could not detach any considerable part of her force to co-operate for the defence of Russia. It was also to be recollected, that when Finland was attacked, I three years ago, Denmark had invaded Sweden from Norway ; therefore this cession was required from no other motive than that of security, for Sweden could undertake no effective enterprize against the common enemy, as long as a hostile Power leaned upon her frontier. Whatever may have been for. merly the character pf Denmark, ihe has been of late one of the most submissive dependants of France ; and therefore an hostile attack, on her part, against Sweden, was to be apprehended, should the latter take an active part in favour of Russia. This was the motive of the stipulated cession. None could dispute the great advantage of securing the co-opera tion of a Swedish force. It has been placed on the :nest respectable footing ; and by the care and actie vity of the personage who has the greatest coati - n*6lin that country, it has been raised to 60,000 men. From .the mornert of his arrival s he turned his chkf atten tion to the army, and it soon experienced the effects of his active and intelligent mind . To acquire the co-operation of such a Power, became immediately one of the chief objects Of British His 'conduct last year sav§d Russia, and euahled Count Wittgenstein to obtain such splendid vic- Mies on the Dwina ;* beck* Sveden, in that im. • °r • PO ibises OW. *soros.* glispassei arniktamea of the large force promised her by gamin for else son. quest of Norway. Hes conduct, upon' the whole ' , was most disinterested s and she never 'hisitatell to give op her own interests for the promotion of the common cause. The indemnification proposeito Denmark for the proposed cession. was the Duchy of Oldenburgh, which, though not strictly Russian, was still so connected with that Government, that it could take upon it to propose the offer. The Treaty signed between Sweden and Russia was communicated tothis country in July, 1812; upon which occasion a most urgent desire was expressed by the contracting par ties, that Great Britain would accede to its stipula tions ; which, considering the state of Europe, and the danger of Russia at the time, his Majesty's Ministers thought themselves justified in sanctioning. They were, however, anxious to make Sweden useful to the common cause, and consented to subsidize that Power for so great a purpose. She met every proposal to that effect with the utmost cordiality, and deferred her own objects to promote those of the Allies She had even incurred great expenses to that effect; and the demonstrations of her forces last year parAlized 60,000 French troops, who would have been other wise employed against Russia, but were detained at Stralsund and Konigsberg, by the menaces of Swe den to land in Germany, and act in the enemy's rear. She has fulfilled all her engagements mcst scrupu lously, and deserves the gratitude of Europe. For such conduct was Guadaloupe given her; and he was convinced no objection would be made to a grant which would contribute to advance the commercial prosperity of the world, and secure the resistitnee of Sweden to the Continental System. When scan first proposed to this country the project of a subsidy, she was fairly told that none could be granted but for general purposes. In the mean time, never was the conduct of any Government more disinterested than that of the Swedish ; and it consented even to waive its claims on Norway, provided Denmark would co-operate with the Allies against France. It re quired only a small track, which travels round the northern frontier of Sweden ; and such were the claims to British aid of that Power, and such the motives which induced Ministers to give Guadaloupe, in order to fix her firmly in the interests of England.— The Noble Lord said, he trusted he had protected the characters of Russia and Sweden against that most unjust, unfounded, and impolitic attack which had been made upon them ; and more especially that he had rescued the character of the Crown Prince from the insinuations which had been thrown out against him.—(Hear, hear . I )—The Noble Lord continued, it was impossible he could conclude without adverting to the situation of Hamburg!). That unfortunate town had certainly sulFered in a manner which every one must commiserate ; they had indeed committed themselves in a manly, though perhaps not in a very politic manner; they had suffered by their premature declarations, buttheyhad suffered in a manner which claimed for them the sympathy of every one. It was a great, consolation, however, to this country, to re flect that they had not been led into their sufferingi by any representations made to them by the British Government. With respect to Denmark, and Count Berustorff's mission to this country, there were strong reasons to suspect that Bonaparte never thought that mission could produce any thi big inimical to his interest. This was plain frcm.Bonaparte's conduct and declara. tions ; for in his dispatch to the Empress of May t 6, when he could not but suppose Count Bernstorff was still in Londen, he speaks of taking his ally Den.' mark to the Congress with him ; and he does her the honour of placing her first on the list of his good Al. lies, with the exception of America only. Therefore he must have felt that the negotiation would come to nothing. With respect to the terms on which Den mark stated herself ready to treat as soon as named; it would appear they were inadmissible. The first pro. position was in itself inadmissible, namely, that we should treat separately, and abandon Russia and Sweden ; next, that we should restore all our Danish conquests ; the Danish fleet ; and that we should alio guarantee all the rest of Denmark's possessions, and particularly Norway, which they well knew we had at that time acceded to Sweden's taking possession of. —(Hear, hear.) —The Noble Lord again repeated his opinion, that in bringing forward this motion, the Right Hon. Gentleman had reflected most unjustly on the character of our Allies ; and that such a con duct, by operating to , attended s from these Allies at this juncture, might be with most mis chievous consequences. The Noble Lord concluded by uttering a high eulogium on the character and conduct of the Crown Prince, the whole of whose past conduct he should prove had been such as to justify this country in placing implicit confidence in his lici nour.—( Loud elieeriag.) Mr. CANNING said, he trusted the Noble Lord would do him the justice to say, he had not, during the present Session, sought any opportunity of op posing the measures taken by him ; and the conduct ' of the Noble Lord, manly, open, and candid, on a recent subject (the Catholic Bill), had rendered him still less inclined to seek opportunities of contest with him. But the present was an occasion which called on him to express his sentiments. When be first saw the treaty now the subject of discussion, his feelings had been the same as those felt, he believed, by the public iregenetal—he considered it as disgraceful to . the country. He still felt many objections to it: some, indeed, had been removed by the explanation of the Noble Lord to-night ; others, however, still remained after hearing that explanation. What, then, must be the effect upon the Continent, where it would go without any explanation at all t The Right Honour able Gentleman then proceeded to remark upon the different parts of the Treaty, and obseiv , :d, the . Noble Lord had alluded to him, and said, that he, when holding the office which the Noble Lord now held, had sent fleets and armies against Norway...-. In answer to that, he would say, we were then at e war with Deninark. The Noble Lord had made the same plea, but could there be no difference be tween the two cases t That difference now existed in war : it was honourable to deprive our enemy of as Much as possible of territory.; but it was a new doctrine now adopted, of disposing of such conquests : before the conclusion of the war. It s4as, indeed, a system adopted by France; but h *as, in his opinion, one of the most dangerous innovations which the new . system of things had introduced. In jestification of giving Norway to Sweden, it was said that Sweden was restrained, by fear of -Norway, from aiding and assisting in the - commou.fatve ; if such was the Error, • ' 1 . ;.-•••••• 9, bow wes,it tit tbe (Homy rass possession of Denmark) the Crown Prince, bad commenced ap e , rations by taking up a position at Stralsund? He po. ticolarly objectedto the dismemberment of any State. In all the negociations in which Great Britai n had interfered on this Continent, her language had invariably been, 44 we wish to see the old miler of things as nearly as possible restored ; we are ready tti give up all our acquisitions, not for dismember, meat, but for peace." Much should he regal if, in the event of a tvgnciation taking place now, and our being invited to assist at it, our language should be changed, and it should be said by Great Britain. that she came to demand tl,e dismemberment of an empire. With respect to t:.c cession of Guadaloupe, he objected strcngiy to it. IL had been a contemplation with Govoroment, evei, when he had the honour of holding a situation i n it. to give to Sweden a West India Colony ; he did not disapprove the principle. but he considered the eke. anion as bad : the usual moie would have been, i n name the Island ;—but to delay the transfer of it 01 Peace should arrive ; entering indeed into stipulaticas then to be carried into effect. After express:et his sentiments on other points of the Treaty at some length, he, in concluding, expressed his dissent, par. licularly from that part of the Amendment convey. in censure on our Allies. CASTLEREACM, in explanation, ;aid. that I. ceiviion of Guati.loupe uothirg was ceded to Swede." ezeipt th e rights which we otirsairei pccrbsed at present, unsay, tht: risine of War. Mr. C. WYNN E rose, amidst loud cries of " Queseies,youtir. ! ' and objected, in strung mans, to die cession of Norway. Mr. WHITBREAD, in very strung language, animadverted on the Treaty. As for the cessior. of Nontruy, It was just the. same as if the -Republic of France had (on account orilisereaiot4 ceded Ireland to Spain. He bad came down to the HcAlbe twi of the feelb.: described by a Right Honourable Gentlest= (K. ('onning) ; but though the Kuble Lord's might he called a very good speqh, It trail not taken away the sting from I.,•coodeia na.ion of his mea•ure. We were adopting the princ.r e ks we had so long condemned in France. When we entered into these et gagements. did we not participate in the atrocious conduct f.t Russia to Sweden, when taking advantapt Oldie imbecility and insanity of her Goverunient; she acted net like a friend, bet NS enemy, aid stripped her of Phelan& Te compensate Sweden far this, it was that Norway was to be taken in eachange,thosigh it belonged to a power with which neldwr of ditit power We" at war. As to apprehensi ins of invasion from Norway le was a sunl, and the possession of the Blaboprick of Dt ontheim, the to the country, could as little be given op. The Hoamie Geo.key domain then eulogised the Dents, and condemned ae atrocious the Expedition to Copenhagen s upon which he descanted at souse length as the Cause of irritation in Denmark against us, He user tended that this power bad aced am t and uestr4 part, till forced into the war by E n d a thee defended lierustorirs propositions. H she reetheC of on the Des nish ships indivensible, and t tre l .a l r e for the cesaiees d NOrwaYsall ituulting and uut to he listene4 to. It war was condensed *die uojtva demand was complied with, it would be interminabie... He wished to know what good cquld melt from the umiak*, from the Swedes, when it was known that the Crown Prineehad not stirred a step. He allud:d to the panegyric bestoweduz a t ; culotte s which he thought singular to tw4r fru% a/Braids at the end of the W years war in which we bad hers gagged. and in which he had risen to bis high I In the service cif Bonaparte. When the Swedish nada*, the sant& set them by Ibis country in a former period, bad 'prodemed the happy lesson of sending from the throne nee not fit to ride, he was Aid to bear that their newly-elccced dynasty was so worthy. The House then divided— For Mr. Ponsouby's Address, 115—Against it, 424. Mr. CANNING then said, that be differed In . some respects from Cie Address of the Right Hatt. Gentleman opposite; and be then proposed another Address to the Prince Regent, the object of seinen was to ascertain precisely the engagement which this country had entered into with Sweden.—Thts motion was put t asel negatived on a division--22s against 121. TLe tweevary sum being then voted in thi cemmktee, The House adjourned at One o'Clock. THE EVENING STAR LONDQN. SATURDAY. JUNE 19. 1815. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCL aid. soti—ceaa for lee. 17* 571-4 per Ct. 7141 Bends Se. elts,—Exch. Bills 4s. 5.. pr.--Ozunium 41 5 4jl pre, Sauk Long ABM. 14/ 3-115tht. Two Gottenburgh Mails arrived at a late hour last night. and dispatchei were received from Lord CATII„ cast and Sir d. ‘Staystwar. They detail some mill. Lary events subsequent to the Battles of Bautzen and Wartten, but of minor importance, and mention the Armistice. These dispatches are dated on the 4th inst. The above Mails have brought a report that the Austrians have joined the Allies, but we place no credit in it. Twenty times has the same report reacheti us from Gottenburgh. It was reported on 'Change this morning that a Flag of Truce had arrived Cram 4merica. Ap4r4L mrELLIG4IficE. • • A lea of ationt 44 sail arrived at Gottenbergh the 4th lo::sr% from England, and a fleet or about too sail arrived front the Ziere ou the atli; and a fleet of about 123 Al arrived at Carlscroz: from England on ---- (date not mentioned.) Among the most remarkable articles in the Ainerican Papers Is one stating, that 'on the 27thof March, the Success of and front Boston to Cadiz; wo captured by the French !rapt, Aretimse, and sunk; the French Captain at • the same tune expressing his regret at having fallen in witli h os be said his orders were po sitive to destroy all American vesieb on site* a destination. So much fora the liberty of the seat s " and his imperial Majesty's " love for the Americans!" FALMOUTH, JUNE is, Arrived the GLZ4N at ketch, of 14 gime, from a midge. The Fox packet, with a Mail for Surioatn, is gone into the Roads, and it is supposed will sail in the course of the night or to-inetrOf morning.—Wiud W. N. W. fresh breezes. PLYMOUTH, JUNE 17. Catnip ha the Montague, the Lee, and the Endeavor. fen" Lisbon, bound to LiverpooL Nothing sailed to-day.--Wind W. PORTSMOUTH. JUNE is. Arrived the ELpsu cutter, with a convoy from the Downs; also the Dounsa Rusalati frigate. with a Russian store-ship. Sailed the Neva schooner on a cruize. and the Au/ schooner for Ly mingtou.--Wind North. DEAL, JUNE 18. Affixed the DRUPD with a convoy from Lisbon..wideh ar• sailed for the 'Over; the Alt cis& it • and it tOttoLt bap Lam Harwich; and the Nratrit cuurr with Di.patches from cif Flustifus. Sailed the liz.totr. and Fol.g.sroNe with a conviiy for Poituttouth. HARWICH, JUNE :a. Arrival the Auckland packet, tat E, and the Lark packet. SucaLocc, with mails and pass tigers trnm Gottenburgh. Two Itlevenipirs were Lusded !rum corm, and proceeded sv.d. all t..s. patch tur London. HIGH E i.. r I.ONI )0N BgIDUE "FO-MORROW. balmy . ... 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