Star. — London, England, 1812-06-12 00:00:00

' tli.e4e prryositions, no union could have taken place ; if the former, they would have demanded no more P than what men of sense were entitled to demand. lie . (Mr. Canning) th n read a letter from Lord Wellesley to Lord Grey, and the rep r, explaining the causes of the vAriation which appeared on the face of the proposition made by him (Mr. Canning) to Lord Liverpool, and by Lord Wellesley to Lbrd Grey, which •difference originated in the circum stance of his and his INltble Friend's havi• ~ ,r gone to their respective conferences without having previously ' seduced into writing the communications which it was their intention to make. It being Lord Wel lesley's object to form a comprehensive Admini stration, a proposition was made to the Members of the present Administration, of which he (Mr. Can ning) was the beAier. He read the antwer of Lord Liverpool to this proposition, which declined on his part, and on that of his colleagues, any p.srticiption in an Administration to be formed by Lold Welles i ley. On.rgceiving this Answer, he wrote a private lttter.to Lord Liverpool, suggesting to him to con sider how such a personal objeaion would appear in the eyes of the country. In his reply. Lord Liver pool disclaimed any motive purely personal, but de . glared, that after the recent occurrences, he and his colleagues would think themselves wanting to their own character, and to that if their departed Friend, were they to entertain any such proposition from Lord Wellesley. Lord Welleilley had made too trium phant a justification of 'himself, in another place, on this point, to render it necessary for him (Mr. Can ning) to say one word on the subject. He accounted for the delay in the proceedings to which the Right Honourable Gentleman had alluded, by stating, that during that period attempts were made (it was not fit that he should say from what quarter), to remove the objections of the late Colleagues of Lord Wel lesley to coalesce with him in the Administration.— ! When these attempts had failed, formal authority was given to Lord Wellesley to make the proposi. tion which the Honourable Gentleman maintained would not bear a moment's consideration, but which be (Mr. C.) contended was illiberal and even a rash conception. He did not impute any blame to the Noble Lords for their rejection of the proposal made to them by Lord Wellesley ; but it was evident that that rejection proceeded from a wish that the whole power of the Government should be surrendered into their hands. Lord Wellesley then surrender ed his commission, which was immediately trans. ferred to Lord Moira. Of the negociation that then took place, he knew nothing but from others ; but he thought it only justice to Lord Moira to read the correspondeuce which passed on the occasion. —The first was a private note from Lord Moira to Lords Grey and Grenville, stating, that they would express themselves on the subject in such a way, as to induce him to ..pply to.the Regent for formal per: mission to address him on the s bject. The answer expressed the sense which the Noble Lords enter tained of the kind motives of Lord Moira; but de clined affording the opportunity wllich he requested. The next document s was another note from Lord Moira, s:atii.g. that he had,notwithstanding, obtained authority from the regent, to address Lords Grey and Grenville on the tormition of an AdministratiOn, and 'wishing to know when an interview could take place. The interview, the minutes of which had been read by the Right Honourable Gentleman, fol lowed, but he (Mr. Canning) contended that those minutes by no means bore the construction which the Right - Honourable Gentleman put upon them.— No hedge of sanctity was placed round the House hold. Lord Moira's power was not limited, but that Noble Lord, with the frankness and candour which distinguished him, declared that he would resist the application of that power to the purposes Mentioned by Lords Grey and Grenville. Could any thing (said Mr. Canning), be more just? Was Lord Moira's power to be unfettered by discretion, because It was unlettered by instruction ? To make thaysignation of the great Officers of the Household, th e first act of a new Administration, would have been to fix on an, Illustrious Personage, those-imputations which were so generally, but so falsely thrown out against him.— It was on public grounds alone, and from a due sense of die mischievous consequences that would ensue, that Lord Moira refused to accede to the propesitions of the Noble Lords. Lord Moira had authorised him tt) state that atter the rupture of the negocia. Lion. fearing he might have misunderstood the exttnt of the powers given to him by the Regent ui.ll respect to the Household, on his return to Carlton House, he asked his Royal Highness whe ther he was prepared to give up the services of any of the Officers of his Household, if he (Lord Moira) thought it . was necessary for the public bene fit ? The answer was, that his Royal Highness was . "ready to give them all up it it was for die benefit of the. country. Ott which Lord Moira rejoiced, that 'nor cthe t,t them bhvuld be removed:—(Rear, /sear.) lie thoutht the Noble Earl's conduct on this occasion Completely just fi•ble. There was an apprehension I that, on surrendering his commission to the Regent, ! Lord• Moira advised - the removal of the farmer Go vernment. He had, however, seen Lord Moira in five minutes after he had quitted the Prince's closet, whu related to him all that had passed, in the %thole of which there was not a tittic of that nature. He deeply lameitted the failure of the negoeiation for bringing •in the N.,01e Lords and the Gentlemen opposite. Another opportunity for trying such an expetiment as endeavi uring to assemble in the Cabi net ind viduals of variou, political opinions, might not soon recur. borne mig.a. Mug.= the advantages of such a proceeding chirucrkal. He was not of that number. He deprecated any combination of men of consequence in the country, to bias or coutroul the sovereign authoi ity it, the exercise of its undoubted prerogative of nominating Ministers, and concluded by advising his Hon. Friend (Mr. Wortley) to with draw his motion ; on which at any rate he (Mr. Can ni.ng) would nut teal intitled to v o t e . Mr. PONSON BY iIticiMr.CANNHIG mutually explained • • Mr. TIERNEY said he was obliged to rise to ad dress the House on halal: of two Noble Friends of 'his. He was sorry to hear troni his Right Honour able Friend (Mr. Canning), that the same offe• v.ould never be made again—he meant to his Noble Friends (Lords Grey and Grenville). In his (NI. Tierney's) youth, he was prepossessed apainst ars toeracy ; but he found, in a long political life, th. t ihis Noble Friends possessed honour and integrity and had to heart only the prosperity of their country. tlrtir.l *They were called on to give au answer to his Noble Friend (the Marquis of Wellesley) to two i to personal allusions, which he was called on by a nuestiens, which' they answered in that mode he ex- sense of propriety to notice. petted from them : but the Right Hon. Gentleman, ' Mr. TIERNEY, in explanation, repeated the con f,,r the lapse of time that intervened before the con- , versation which had taken place between him and his elusion of the negociation for the Marquis of Welles. Right Honourable Friend, and disclaimed any per ley, was tampering with the present Ministers, as he ; sonal allusion. considered them strong enough to act for the benefit I Lord R. SEYMOTJR•confirmed the statement of of the country if they had the Right Hon. Gentle- the Noble Lord (Yarmouth), by shortly stating that , man's assistance. It never 'wa s a s k e d of the C ro wn it had been the intention of the Household to resign. to abandon its rights—(Hear);— hut it came to a Mr. FULLER. observed, that the whole matter more serious question, Whether the Cabinet had a clearly came out now, and it was shewn, th'at all that right, on the present day, to demand what was the Noble Lords wanted was to get power and pout). granted to other Cabinets ? Were his Noble Friends nage. All they asked was, shall - we have so and so? to put themselves in a worse situation titan those others shall we be allowed this place? and shall we have that? who took upon themselves the same responsibility? Was this their love for their country? (laughter) was With tegard to the proposition made by Lord Moira, this their pretensions to patriotism ? No! it was a they, Lords Grey and Grenville, were arraigned for love of places and pensions, and power and emolu having dashed to the ground all the hopes that had silent (laughter). It was a steady inquiry what plates been raised in the country relative to the formation they could get to enrich those who could tell• them of a strong Administration, by the stand they had they had done so and so— (a f laugh)—They were de. made against the Household. That matter was, in termined to take every thing, and not to leave their his opinion, capable of a most easy explanation. la ' Princel even the friend of his heart.—But Lord return for the fairness with which the Noble Earl Moira had acted like a man of honour, and thewhole had approached, these Noble Lords had thought country felt and acknowledged that he had proved a it but equally fair to state at once, and explicitly, true friend to his Prince. As for all these motions the grounds on which they could meet the prop*. for the formation of Administrations on broad bases, sition made to them, so as to bring it to a satisfiet !,Jny such means they could never be realized.—These tory termination. This, in Abe first place, they Noble Lords had had the fairest propositions made did, with regard to the Household ; not, as was to them, but they would not throw aside their imagined by some, requiring that the , whole r prejudices, either for the good of their country or should give way, but only that the officers usually i the service of their Sovereign. In this case removed ou the appointment of a new Cabinet, ; the country would support the seen placed at should, in the present instance, be displaced. But ' her head, in opposition to an Oligarchy, the very then they had this night received information en- worst of all Governments—a Government of ten tirely new, in what the Right Hon. Gentleman had Cardinal Wolseys, instead of one—(Much laughter, and stated as the conversation between the Prince Regent crier o f Hear.) He desired them, if they chose, to go and Lord Moira, at the conclusion of his mission.— I back to their constituents, and was sure they would • For his part be would have thought that to have read not have twenty votes in the country—(o laugh.)— the minute of the negociation to his Royal Highness, Neither their principles, nor these sort of motions, would have been ..he most obvious course for his were necessary, and they ought to be resisted. If Lordship to have pursued ; but instead of this he they thought themselves better than the Ministers ap had, somewhat in the Right Hon. Gentleman's own pointed, let them attack their measures, and put manner, adopted a more theatrical mode of ma- themselves in their places if they could—(Hear,) but naging the business; as they were informed that he he was convinced the country and the House would having received from the Prince' an assurance that support them against all such attacks. his Royal Highness would consent to displace all his Mr. MARTIN did not approve of the proposition Household, replied, 44 Then not one of' them shall to remove the Officers of the Household. He con ' go." But even the Noble Earl could not have kept ceived that the Prince Regent had been bound to re his promise in this respect, for it seemed the Noble jest it. Such a proposition would have been made Lord (Yarmouth) would not have remained. Could with more • grace fr m a Cabinet, than from those there be stnydoubt then, in the mind of the House, who were going, as it were, to take possession of the that the whole of this breach of the' negociation , Palace. arose from a misunderstanding ; and that if the willingness to retire, in these Officers of the . Household had ever been explained, there would have been no difficulty in bringing the arrange ment with his Noble Friends to the desired conclusion ? Nod they once been told that the Noble Lord and his Friends were ready to retire at ten minutes notice, the great obstacle in the way of their accepting place would have been removed.— There could be no insult in their stating this to be a necessary preliminary, that the Household Offices usually given up, should be given up to them, and it could only have been an insult, had they been aware of this readiness to retire. and had insisted on the • Members rernaiuingin, fur the purpose of being dis , missed. All would have been smooth, and it would Ihave been unnecessary to make any minute, but as it I was, without meaning the most distant imputation on Earl Moira, be would say, that if any trick or device ' could have been framed to break off the negotiation, it was that very thing which was done.—(Hear, hear, hear.) For himself : he could declare, that, however well known the Noble Lord (Yarmouth) stated the intention of the Household Officers to resign, he, on the sixth of June, had never heard of that in tention. He had applied to a_ Right Honourable i Friend of his (Mr. Sheridan) fir infOrmation on this subject, having heard. it rumoured that one brother of a Noble Marquis (Hertford) had intimated that they had resigned, or were about to resign, while another brother had held a contrary language. To_ this application, his Right Hon. Friend bad replied, " I will bet you 500 guineas that no such thing was ever in contemplation." .He had mentioned this anec dote to many, and therefore it was not brought up for the purpose of debate, but was a complete answer to the supposed notoriety of the fact, -with which it appeared that even Lord Moira was not acquainted. It was indeed something very extraordinary that this matter should have gone to the Regent, and never have come back to the parties immediately concerned. As for the charge of breaking off the negotiations, without meaning to insinuate the slightest degree of blame against that Noble Lord, he must say it lay at the door of Earl Moira only, and his Noble Friends (Lords Grey and Grenville) must be acquitted of any thing but of having shewn an earnest disposition to assent to the proposal made to them. The question now before them was, what course they had to take in consequence of the restoration tb suspended ani mation in the Noble Lords and Right Hon. Gentle men opposite ?—(if laugh.)—They were' he identical men against whom the former vote of the House had passed, and nothing had since happened to make them alter their opinions of their inefficiency. 19at the Administration, the House and Country, demand. ed three weeks ago, might after the explanation of this night, be formed to-morrow. No obstacle remained, and if the parties were put again into Lord Moira's room, every difficulty would now easily be overcome. (Laughter, and cry of Ifear.)—The Honourabl Gen tleman proceeded to argue this point in a more grave manner, and afterwards in an ironical way described the present Cabinet as Liberty Hall, where every Member was to adhere to his own opinions, as in the' case of the Catholic question. It was nonsense to say that this important matter was not to be considered as a Cabinet question—it was obvious that, instead of consideration by the Government to the effect of devising conciliatory measures, a majority in the Cabinet would do all in the r power to thwart it. It would be strange if they treated other great politi cal points in the same way. The war in the Penin sula for instance— in which one Minister might be for coming down to the House of Commons for 10 millions of money and 50,000 men to carry on the war, while another would say, " No I that is too much —let me have £5OO and a corporal's guard."—(4 tough.)—He enlarged upon the necessity of coining to some resolution, and gave the preference to that moved by his Noble Friend (Lord Milton.) Lord YARMOUTH, in explanation, observed, that the Right Honourable Gentleman bal.:lammed Lord CASTLEREAGH said, at that late hour he should be short in what he bad to say. On the practical part of the subject before the House he would say but little, but there were a few points which he was called on to notice, and in the observa tions he had to make, it would be his study to avoid aggravating the feelings of public men. At the same time he should be unwilling to provoke any hostility injurious at this time to the true interests of the coun try. As far as the Motion went, it was one of the most unobjectionable that could possibly be adopted. Upon the words of it, he has no hesitation in being a party to them. With respect to the Principle winch went to strengthen the Government there would be no difference of opinion, but when they came to look at it, he would ask, whether it did not cast a shade on the present Administration t What could be the meaning of the Address, but- a suggestion of the disqualification of the Administration ? With re spect to the Administration, he would not assume any unbecoming humility, and fie" would' say, that whatever difficulties had interposed • between them and their services to the Country, they had shown no disposition to afford those services after the vote against them in that House.—After three or f .ur weeks had elapsed in the attempt to form an Admi nistration, nothing had been done, and the Crow n was fina lly oblige d to call on the late Administi ati‘ n. It was a pleasure for its Members to reflect, that they never had stood between the wishes of the Crown and the country, and that, on this occasion, they hai not abandoned their country. They craved from the House no more than constitutional support. ( gear, hear.) If they merited approbation they would have it ; if in the judgment of the House they were not entitled to it they would bow to its decision. (Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord then deprecated the mea. sures pursued of late for the formation of a ministry. He was convinced that the recent proceeding. had been detrimental to the public. He could augur no goe.l from a negotiation for an diciest Administration vrhon public men could not meet .n room without pea, ink, and paper, to draw up principles on which they were to act. (Hear I hear!] He trusted that those poceedings would b • a lesson to public men, to reach them never to resort to such proceedings, with the suppositiou that the same could be beneficial. He trusted that, in the examples which had arisen in the coarse of the calamitous events, public men would derive important and useidl information. His knowledge of the whole of these negociations was proscribed. He had not been party to any of them. It had so happened that he had not bad access to his Royal Highness since the eight of the Vote passed in that House adverse to the Ministry. The only part of the transactions that be hadtaken was one which, on intimation, was made by Lord Wellesley, to know whether a part of the Cabinet would form a part of the new Administration. iliere the No ble Lord paid the highest tribute to the character, talents, and strict honour of the Noble Marquis. He admired him above all, as the brother of the greatest soldier, and it was painful for him so reffect that his Colleagues were not able to assist the Noble Magnis in the efforts elected to form an Administration. He had, however, thought it his duty, to concur in and recommend the answer his Colleagues had given to the application. In mak ing that declaration, he felt that the idea of personal would be dismissed from the mind of the Noble Marquis.— Animosity might Is well be imputed to the Noble Mar quit, when he declined acting with Mr. Perceval, as to him end his Colleague', for the answer they bad returned. —On the subject of animosities, generally, he bad to lament that there should have been so unworthy a motive supposed, by possibility, to exist in the breast of any individual dispused to alt a public situation. The country, however, need Dot be under any apprebendon on that subject. There were honourable and able men inclined to afford their services, and the Crown would have the Constitutional power of bringing them forward. He trusted, in future, that the practice of forming Governments would be left to the proper authority. Before hr took his seat, be had to observe shortly on the subject of the Catholic Claims, alluded to so often in the course of the debate. On that ques tion he would acknowledge, that advaitages might arise train the Government being friendly to that measure; but if they were to have a Government coostructedon the Catholic Qustion, each a Government would not, in hisvievr of the subject, be advantageous to the Country. An Hon. Gent, had spoken with horror of a de sire to reserve the powet of wan or &twat, with reference to the discussion of that question; but the Hon. Gentleman opposite ought to recollect, that a former Administration, at the time of Lord Sidrnouth, though they pledged themselves:a bring the Ca tholic Question forward, they refereed the right of taking such pinks the discpssien as In th e fpinson it might require. He considered himself free to take any part his conscience might ap.. prove; at the sane time he was ready to go into any inquiry to give e ffect to the fair disctiWon of that treasure, and to commu nicate with any tenon or persons with respect to information.-- 011 the point on which,Earl Mcgra's negociatios bad turned, be 'woad nay that is iree Pawed; became what they coats:Wed fur never tad bees contended before, naleake, fist tips os terso the Household must be r e m o v e d by cessent is disarm on thorised by the Crown. That pedal bad always bus 6 cussed between a Minister and the Crowe,, with a feeling for the wishes and inclinatioa of don Ce nom bec t Moira bad put this construction on the propeflenn; be hi said it was impossibk for him to make that power iog,, pensable in the formation of an Admislaratica. He i (Ln e de a. tiersagh) would say that the subject had been takes win i n * arts, and in a manner that the penpis of this teentey. w o o never permit; but, Independent of t h a t skint, than e nre by been a more unpleasaet negolation An any tableau Thom & would lead all the country to candela that they al * o n by their Prince, supeort his rights, and stand by ha, w him. who could say.that they had no divisions among them, mo d e they were influenced only by a with to Genre their rOdrirri fully and diligently. Mr. WOK I'LEY rose amidst the ay of Question! sad am he had not expected any opposition from the Noble Lord (4 tiereagh) to his motion, because that NebkLord moan o n existence as a Minister to him. Th e late uwetrfteatie6 have been strangled is its Dinh had not his motion takes * IN but be would acknowledge that it stood better dna thea ee l first formation in the eyes of the country. He dada' tidabn e the Right Hon. Gentirnun had cleared up the medal of a, Noble Lords. With respect to his motion, be did see noel go to a division on it, because he tbonglt he thosthliew hike* of the House. He @haul I not, however, withdraw kWh* it to be negatived without a division, in order thenit milk on tie Journals. Haring said lids much with respect sew % motion, be should support the Anatadment moved by a Ugh Lord, because•he could not assent to barns an then nil no med a strong and aflame Govaennsent. Lord FOLKSTON/I mad* a few observations; hat 6 41 for the question was so loud tint he could net be head. Mr. Ht/SKISSON spoke in support Offs regorietioaos eb ricd on by the Noble Lords Grey and Otinvilie sod his lik l e t Honourable Friend. Mr. bARHAM said a few words, but an acecent oftleei s for the question was beasselible in the Gallery. General GASCOYNS expressed his intention not Wei* Amendment of the Noble Lord (Folkston) to be withimon, Lord FoLerront's Amendment was then negatived Ming a division; after which that of Lord Mit vow was fare.iiii 164; Noes, M.—Majority for Ministers, Its. Mr. WORT& ter Motion being then put and nevekte4 House adjourned at Half past • 'three in the ?doming. [During the (Hellion while the Minority were in on e w y. Mr. Pe Nso mar addressed his Fs iced', and recom mee d e d en k i to attend on Thursday next, when the Catholic Question wan come on, the result of which would thew how far the min of the present Administration consistent whit their mom. Mr •ououem also reminded the Miamian thea sent that an att—lpt of an unprecedented nature emits lk ads, not only to postpone the discussion on the 'Orders a Coo, but by su• eluding his notice, to take the business atta c h e* of his hands.] THE EVENING STAR, LONDON. -m• FRIDAY, JUNE It PRICE OF STOCKS TM DAT AT ONE O'CLOCK. India Stock shut-5 per Ct. Red. 551 f-4 per Cat. 7 $ $ per Ct. Cons. for money shut—Dtuo to opening Mi S per Cent. —Lang Anat. 15f—Boodis per 3s. is. MINISTERIAL ARRANGEMENT/ The Debate in the House of Commons last night s of ss hich a full detail will be found in our Columns of to d Ay, will, we presume, supercede all fudge specuiaTion on the subject of the future Minix:7d the Country. The Correspondence connected with or it s 401; * the Negociacions, will be given ia , the STAII4 It. morrow. A very correct abstract it will be food in our report of Mr. Powscatmee And Mr..CAMlniti speeches. - re' r Yesterday, at three o'clock, the PRIM lain held a Privy Connell, which was attended by de LORD CHANCRL LOA, Earls LIVIMPOiII o HARIOII3I I WL ThIOREL A 11D, RATH ma; St:TICINO:MAMMA Viscount SIDMOUTH, &Co Earl HARROWBY was introduced, end efter tag the usual oaths, was conducted to the Chair at Prig sideut of the Council, in the TOO= of Viscoostio MOUTH, • - His Royal Highness the Pawns Rimy drat lb livered to Lord SIDMOUTH the seals of oficeo at Sa cretary for the Home Departnsent, in the morn d Mr. REDER.—EarI BATHURST also received the teak as Secretary fir the. War and Colonial Dep in the room of the Earl of lay:wool., and ;IV Li:emen were then sworn into office. ' i he above, m addition to the appointroentsci Earl of LIVERPOOL and Mr. VAN SI ?TART, MR the only situations which have been publicly sums* as having been filled, but we believe, we may mum to state with certainty, that the following is a comet list of the remainder of the Ministry : Lord ELDcksT Lord Chancellor; Lord Catftertemilr . Secretary for Foreign Affairs; Lord MUTUAL Frig Lord of the Admiralty; Earl of Wissestootwats Privy Seal ; Earl of BUCICHIGHAISSIHRE, Baird d Controul; Lord MULORAVI I Ordoaace; Mr. Roo Board of Trade. Mr. WELLasury Pots retires from public life ea, tirelr. Mr. ARBUTHNOT IS mentioned as the new Se.. cretary for Ireland, and his place at the Tremor will, it is said, be filled by Mr. Pzet.a 4 from Lard LP VERPOOL% Department. Among the other arrangements spoken at, the Earl et CeP CILISTER is mentittoed either for a seat in the Cebind, wof Master of the Hone. The Earl of lissom.; Is Winos ma* timed for the latter appointment. The. new Lard Umatilla! Ireland, it is 'opined, will be either the Duke of Billifedli the Duke of Havrensvce, if the latter be. net ospildsiot Wit young for an appohnment of such consequence, at a pstiododP beam as the resoot. Tke last appoint:omit, of wbitk we Me beard, is, that dot "iarl of Yoassovirs is to be Loti Wad of the Stannarles, io the room of Mr. (now /Jr T) Train/11l Wait of the Mack And. • This mlirnint, at eleven o'clock, tbe Gentle ono torsi** different Lists for the ensuing Loan, waked sport the ktiWili to receive proposals. The Loan is for 5e82400.000. ASP" For England, X 15,00,000; Ireland, iff4,350,080; India Company, 411,300,000. • lueed.—Bidding in Corisok.--Disconnt, 4 per Omb bidding on Ineaday neat, at Ten o'Cloek. 110 DX POSITS: 19 JuDe,lo per cent. 18 Sept. 19 per not. 1p Die.lopet col 17 July, 10 23 Oct. 13 22 Jan. 10 t • , • 10 Nov. 10 An Anhalt Mail arrived this morning. Gnat bodies of ter elan troops are on their way down the 0910 of Finland, hr dlo seat of war. 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