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SPIRIT OP THE JOURNALS. Cit n oNICL E.—Some further conversation about Greece took place last night in the House of Lords. An insinuation was thrown out, that Lord Aberdeen's declaration that the production of the papers sought for on Friday night would be inconvenient to the public ser. rice, was an afterthought, as he had the other day expressed his r_adiness to produce them. Lord Holland inferred from the papers Ilready produced, that something more had passed than appeared on the face of the documents laid on the table. "This point," he said, "he gathered from one of the annexes to the Protocol of Junc 15, 1827, which related to a period soon after the declaration of war between Russia and the Porte. There 'a manifest tendency on the part of Aui. trig to draw nearer to the parties which had undertaken to restore peace, was talked of; and it, at least, showed that formerly that tenekney did not exist ; and hence it was supposed that she had given some indication of a wish to support Turkey. A knowledge of this fact •night place the assurance of Austria in a different light. It might, it was true, be detrimental to the public service to lay those papers before the house; but he did not exactly see how it could be so; mil if there existed any thing to show that the assurances of Austria were not sincere, it ought not legally to be withheld." So much for diplomacy and official assurances. CIIRONICLE.—The many urgent complaints made of the vexa lolls prosecutions set on foot by the Stamp Office will, it is hoped, !le put an end to under the new Stamp Bill now in progress through Parliament. It is not to be endured that honest tradesmen, and others who have no disposition whatever to evade the laws, should ti entrapped into offences against them by a set of needy onprin. dried vagabonds, who infest the metropolis in the capacity of in formers. No sooner do these men get hold of some article that, amidst the vagueness and complexity of the Stamp Acts, can, by sonic stretch of construction, be brought within them, than they forthwith sally forth in partics,each taking its particular beat,and in a Lew days not less than 3 or 400 informations are laid at the Stamp. office,and an equal number of Exchequer Writs issued by the solicitor. A few who had too much spirit to submit to such unwarrantable pro. ceedings stand out, and refuse to compromise, and these arc penult ted to escape because the Informers, knowing well that they should fail of success if the parties came into Court and defended the prose cution, drop it at once ; arid knowing also that there is a good liar. vest to be reaped from the great majority, who, not liking to have their names coupled with a Revenue prosecution, and aware, more. , rcr, that even a verdict in th e i r f avour aga instdie Crown would be attended with a very heavy cost, embrace the offirr of compromise in file first instance, and pay down the sum extorted from their fears, or from their prudence ' conceiving the first loss the best. Thi s most disgraceful system has been practised, we have reason to know, to a great extent, and cries loudly for a atop to be put to it. As far As the stamp Revenue is concerned, the Commissioners of Revenue Inquiry deserve no thanks from the public for the dissolution of the Ist, Board. It is but within these two or three years last past that we have had public meetings and petitions to parliament to seek re dress against what 31r.,11trast very justly called, "the Stamp Office yr rseetaions." We trust we sh a ll hear no more of them. lIERALD.—There cannot be a stronger argument in favour of shortening the duration of Parliaments than this—that, under the septennial system, it is not till towards the termination of their la bours that some honourable members appear to recollect that they nave any constituents, or any interests to consult beyond their own. It is owing to the compliancy of Parliaments, even more than to any inclination of Ministers, that so many extravagant items of public expenditure are proposed and indulged in. While a minister finds himself beset to keep up this or that place of establishment for the benefit of Members of Parliament, or their connections, its not un reasonable that he should rely upon the votes of those to maintain such establishments for whose benefit they are to be kept up. As Parliament draws towards its close, another kind of interest pre. cents itself ; and the prospect of losing the means of future sellaggrandisement makes some men patriots for one Ses. slog, who have been subservient time-servers for the other six. Upon the good old principle that " short reckonings make long friends," it would surely be desirable that mem hers of parliament and their constituents should settle their accounts more frequently than they now do; for, as in a neglected estate In private life, the steward m a y b ecome so little accustomed to the supervision of the owner as to deem the property almost his own, to, in public affairs, it comes to pass that too many of the pub. lie stewards, from too long and undi s t ur b e d p ossess i on , seem to act as if those who sent them to look after their estate had absolutely no tight or interest in it. The truth of these remarks is strikingly deve loped by the present state of public business in the House of Conn mons, where the utmost efforts of the whipper.in can hardly keep together a sufficient number of staunch Ministerialists to ensure even nominal majority on any doubtful occasion ; while, in point of fact, the Government has been again and again left in what can not but be considered, even by themselves, as virtual minorities. But what should Ministers, were they men of spirit, do in such an emergency ? Instead of submitting, night after night, to the dis grace of virtual defeat, why do they not turn the tables upon the deserters from their own ranks, and abandon charges on the public purse, many of which ha v e been created and maintained for the benefit of those who dare not defend them ? At any rate, we trust that the electors throughout the kingdom will mark the conduct, and sift the motives of those who have become honest only at the eleventh hour. What a load of public burden might the country have been relieved from, had Ministers encountered the same diffi culty in passing the estimates at the commencement of parliament, as they now experience towards its close ? Truzs.—The object of the resolutions on the corn trade, appears to be the establishment of a fact which is by no means doubtful— viz. that " the existing regulations for the trade in corn do not pre vent those fluctuations In its price, which are alike injurious to the cultivators of the soil, and to the consumers of agricultural produce." The resolutions state the averaga prices in England, from July, 1828, to February, 1829, at 6"75. and a fraction per quarter; and from March, 1829, to February, 1830, at 645. &c. per quarter; while the mean prices (incorrectly called average) in the following ports viz. Riga, Dantsic, H a mb urg h, C orunna, L eg h orn, and Philadelphia, were, during the former period, 425. 10d. in the following ports, viz. Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Antwerp, Havre Grace, Marseilles, 535. 11d. and in the first series of ports, (sub. stituting New York and Baltimore for Philadelphia), during the latter period,—namely, from March, 1829, to Feb. 1830, they were 465. 3d. hut at Rotterdam, Antwerp, Havre de Grace, and Mar seilles, 595. lid. The resolutions then go on to show the quantities of imported corn, and the amount of duties received during the above periods; as also the striking fluctuation in the averages between lily 31, 1828, and February 11, 1829, the first of which was fixed at 5Gs. per quarter, and the latter at 755. lld. being a rise of 19s. Illd, per quarter in 28 weeks; whereas the average of February, 1830. was slis. Id. per quarter, being a fall of 19s. lid. in 51 weeks. It seems therefore clear enough, that if one object of existing corn law be uniformity or steadiness of prices, that object, or Indeed any isproach to it, has not been attained. We recommend the con. lading resolution of the series to notice, as a proof of the clearness And good sense with which Lord Milton, one of the greatest landed proprietors in the kingdom, has brought his mind to hear upon the I , ,rotion of laws professedly enacted for the security of the landed :aterest. " 13. That the said regulations obstruct the corn .ttcreial intercourse between Great Britain and foreign countries, —that they enhance the price of provisions in this country —increase the cost of production of all the manufactures of the cited Kingdom, including corn itself—render the industry of this nstior less capable of competing with that of other nations, and Aggravate the t.istresses of the people."—This is a subject which cannot he too often or too earnestly discussed in Parliament, be. osuse we arc convinced that every discussion will bring with it an accession of converts, even from among the landed interest, to the eavic of commcn sense and of humanity. Among the means to be employed for the reductian of Algiers is a new projectile called bulk incendi a i r e. These balls ste put into pistols and muskets of large calibre, and discharged by :nen who have been well exercised. The ball is so constructed, that Igttites every conibustibl.: substance against which it strikes.— S3cral experiments were lately made in Paris, in presence of a ;on:mission appointed for the purpose, and they are stated to have been fully successful.—Literary Gazelle. The regatta and other amusements that usually take plac e at Eton on the 4th of June, in commemoration of his late Ma. Jury's distinguished patronage of that excellent public school, were :his year postponed for a week, in consequence of the death of Mr. Vounr, on:: of the roosters. On Friday evening, the ceremony of :swim, up the Th ames , f ro m the bridge to Surly-hall, was per. : . orateil by parties of the boys, who embarked in ten and eight-oared :utters, attended by the military baud of " the Blues" and a contd. Unable number of spectators in boats. The banks of the river were crowded on either side with company, and the whole scene wu ex. xedingly gay and animated. At the conclusion of the sports transparencies bearing the motto Floreal Mona, sad ornamented 'Aida the royal arms and a variety of other devices, were exhibited an the little island immediately above the bridge. There was also brilliant di s pl a y o f fireworks includi a burning temple, and frequent di sc h arges o f water rockets, whi ch latter almost seemed to '' set the Thames on fire." Cuthbert Ellison, Esq. has given notice to his friends, that ov.ing to the at ,te of his own health, and that of one of his family, he defines entering into a contest for the representation of Newcastle. This circumstance has rather damped the paper war which had been carried on briskly in the town for the last eight days; but as the °PPosition was not directed against Mr. E. it is said the freemen who induced Mr. Hodgson to come forward are looking out for a third candidate to oppose the other sit t!ng member. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. The St. Helena, from St. Helena to England, put into Sierra Leone on the 441 ult. having been boarded by a piratical schooner, and plundered of gold and silver. The crew of the pirate mur dered the master, mate, and eleven of the St. Helena's crew, and cut away her mast.. Jums 14. —Wind N.W.—Arrived the Hon. Company's ship Thomas Grenville, from India; Ann, from Jamaica; Ranger, Spence, from Africa ; Sovereign, WKellar, from New South Wales ; and Bolton, from India. Salted the Royal George, for New South Wales. FALMOUTH, JUSIR N.N.W.—Arrived the o.borne packet, from Malta—sailed 26th April, Gibraltar 25th May, and Cadiz the 27th ; and Rachel, Hawke, from Malaga. Off the port, the Etheldred, Hoseason, from Jamaica; Princess of the Netherlands, from Batavia ; and Frances, Brown, from Oporto. BRISTOL, JUNE 14. —Arrived off the port, the Speculator, Cother, from Sr. Vincent's, and Jassy, Gilmore, from Charente. LIVERPOOL, JUNE 13.—Arrived the Prince Reg( nr, James, from Maranham ; Thomas Hyde, —, from Tampico ; Hellespont, —; James, Shackford ; and Spartan, Flamini.. from New Or leans ; Gardiner,Nicholl, from New York ; Favourite,Withycome, from Newfoundland ; and Sister, Donaldson, from St. Andrew's. CLYDE, Jima 12.—Arrived the Rachel and Helen, from Newfoundland. PORTSMOUTH. JUNE 14.—Wind N.W.—Sailed the Sylvia tran sport, for Deptford. Nritourn, June 13.—Wind N. Hut., JUNE 13.—Arrived the Jessie, Eamon, and Samuel, Spyrie, from Riga ; Olivia, Harrison, and Mary, Johnson, from Blemel. In the Humber, the James, Brown, from Riga. The East India Company's ship, Thomas Grenville, arrived off , Weymouth the 12th inst. She left Madras on the 25th of Feb. and St. Helena on the 21st of April. The Thomas Grenville spoke the Castle Iluntly, outward bound, on the sth of May, in let. 0. 40. N. long. 25. 0. W. all 'veil. The Jack-o%Lantern schooner, late Mr. Asheton Smith's cutter yacht, but now the property of Government, arrived in our river this day (Saturday) s ith passengers from the island of Terceira, whither she had been to convey the Marquis of Palmdla.—South. ampton Mercury. It appears by the letters received yesterday from Swan River, which a-e dated so late as the 19th of February, that the report of ' the loss of the Success frigate H not true. That vessel was aground, but was subsequently got off IVe regret to say that a serious misunderstanding, to call it by no stronger name, has arisen on the C a p e St a ti on , b etween C apta i n W.' F. M. Owen, of his Majesty's ship Eden, and Commander Henry F. Greville, of his Majesty's ship &pair, which we fear is likely to lead to a court-martial. It appears that Commander Greville was despatched in the Espoir by Captain W. C. 31. Schomberg, C.B. of his Majesty's ship Maidstone, the Commodore on the Cape Sta tion, to land some pirates at St. Helena, where he fell in with his Majesty's ship Hecht, surveying vessel, all the officers of which,' except an acting Lieutenant, were dead. Captain Greville accord ingly appointed his First Lieutenant, Harding, to be her com mander ; and, as she was to be kept in quarantine, he deemed it advisable to send her tender to Ascension, having first supplied her with fresh provisions. At this juncture, Cap tain Owen, in the Eden, arrived at St. Helena, and as he hail ordeled the tender to be laid up at St. Helena, there to remain six weeks, and the crew to rejoin the Heck, he expressed in strong terms his surprise and disapprobation at the conduct of Com. mender Greville at having disregarded his order. Commander Ore vile was in consequence desired by Captain Owen to confine him. self to his ship, and was, we hear, the only one of the officers who was prevented going on shore. This step seems to have been taken by Captain Owen without the authority or even knowledge of Com.. modore Schomberg, and has, we understand, been represented by the latter to the Admiralty. We regret also to add, that another officer, not immediately concerned in the matter in dispute, has thought fit to take part with Captain Owen, and to challenge Com mander Cheri& The papers connected with this transaction, which are very voluminous, embracing the statements of Captain Owen and Commander Greville, and the remarks of Commodore Schomberg, were sent home in his Majesty's ship Pallas, for the information of the Lord Commissioners of the Admiralty.—Ports mouth Herald. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. Denys, Juw 6.—A steam-carriage is to ply between Dresden and Lcipsic, and to perform the journey in five hours. The hurri cane of the 25th of May threw down in the circle of Krossen 160 houses, three wind-mills, and a church steeple. 400 sheep and oxen and two men were killed, and many received serious injury. lm. mense damage is done to the forests, and several thousand fruit -trees destroyed. CONOTANTINOTLE.--Tbe Sultan has had his portrait painted by Mr. Lauriston, an English artist. After the first sitting, the Mufti, alarmed at this innovation, presented his Highness, in order to dissuade him from such a profanation, with a long remonstrance, supported by texts from the Koran. The Sultan laughed at the Mufti and their remonstrance, and the picture was finished. M. Lauriston, however, hastened to quit Constantinople ; and people there say that he acted wisely. ALEXANDRIA, MAY 6.--Very active military preparations are still:going on in Egypt. Ibrahim embarktdon the 30th April on board a steamboat, to go and examine the coast. Great agitation prevails among the people in consequence of measures, the object of which is not seen, and which, therefore, gives occasion to vafi. ous and partly alarming reports. Meantime, such important and extensive efforts cause an expenditure which has exhausted all the resources of the Patella. He is consequently obliged to make use of measures by which he hopes, if not to make good the whole deficiency, at least to he aide to proceed with what he has begun. With this view the expected crops of lin. seed and safflower have been sold by anticipation, the first at 75 piastres, 130,0(H) Spanish dollars being paid down in advance; the latter, 19 Spanish dollars, to be paid immediately on delivery. In the same manner the whole crop of Mako cotton is on sale, to be paid in advance by monthly instalments of 100,000 Spanish dollars. --It is said that a Company has been formed, which offers to take the latter article at lower prices, by paying monthly instalments of 300,000 Spanish dollars. Thus the principal productions of our country get into the hands of a few persons, who will indeed make great profits, but our commerce in general receives a death blow by such proceedings. Ltanow, MAY 20.—PRIVATE COAREsPONDICrICE.--In Eng land you can form but a slight idea of the misery which now pre vails in this city and country; persons formerly dependent on pen. sions receivable from Government are now begging a wretched pit. lance in the streets. The want of money paralyses all the efforts of the Miguelite Government, and it is even stated that the Mi nister of Finance is about to resign his situation. Absolute Go. vernments, such as that of Miguel, having peculating agents, whose acts will not bear publicity, are always embarrassed ; yet this one, haring tried all the Exchanges in Europe, with. out success, in order to obtain a loan, has again procured some men of straw to come from Paris, in order to make a show of its resources. Some such person arrived here on Thursday, but his speculations will scarcely have effect. Various other schemes to obtain money have been talked of, but none have been carried into effect. The discount on paper money, which forms one-half of the legal pay. malts, has risen to 29i per cent. in Lisbon ; in Ororto it was 301 2 last Saturday, with every prospect of advancing to 35. The most ardent of Miguel's faction are now cooled in their attach. ment to him, and such of them as dare to express their opinions, say that " he is not fit to be a King, however good he may be as a I'rince, for Portugal has suffered more wretchedness since his ar rival than during the preceding century." The money which is collected in some of the provinces is stated to be applied by Miguel to his own purposes. The vexation of his partisans, on receiving no pay, is very great. There has been, notwithstanding, some talk respecting his calling out the Ropal corps to be drilled. tailor to the apprehended invasion. The woollen trade of Witney, which has been for some years past progressively on the increase, has been lately in a state of great activity. The demand for blankets, &c. is unusually great; and, from the improvements now making, and the good understand. ing prevailing between the manufacturers and work-people, we con. Sdently predict, that there will be a continuance of prosperity. The Tralee Ship Canal Commissioners have applied to the Exchequer for the loan of 6,0001. to forward that work. The general estimate Is 8,3001. The amount of subscriptions is .1,0001. of which 1,0001. has been paid in. Among the defaulting sub. scribers are Lord Kenmare for 1501. and Sir Edward Denny for 500 L The expense of the Act for theiShip Canal is charged at . 8601. Law proceedings are being taken against the defaulting subscribers. One hundred vessels entered and cleared out of the port of Tralee last year. About ten o'clock on Sunday night, an accident hap pened in the Strand, which had nearly been attended with very serious consequences. A gentleman, named Langworth, was driving a lady, named Morgan, in a gig towards her residence in the City Rmd ; but, when he arrived opposite Somerset House, he lost all controul over the horse, which, we understand, was a hired one, and pitched head.foremoet out of the gig into the street. The knee then proceeded on at a very furious pace, and the lady screaming and calling out for help. Arrived near Temple Bar, the gig came in contact with another vehicle, which contained two gentlemen, and both were upset. The gentlemen were not much hurt, but their gig was seriously damaged. The lady, we are also happy to state, was more frightened than hurt. Mr. Langworth aunt up soon after the accident had occurred. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, MosnaT, JUKE 14. S. GRANT, and others from the Commons, brought up several private bills. Mr. Butt. presented evidence relating to Sir Jonah Barrington. BUXTON'S DIVORCE •ILL. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose to call the attention of the house to a petition placed in his hands. The noble marquis wished it had fallen to the lot of abler individuals to advocate the petitioner's case. The petition was against Hickson's Nullity of Marriage Bill. The marriage had been improperly called a mar. ridge by abduction. It wan a marriage the result of affection ; and after the parties had been milted, it was rather remarkable that the wife had not been called Mrs. Buxton. The unfortunate husband was then lodged in Lancaster gaol. Having been put to the cx. pense of 8001 or 8001. he was unable to employ counsel for his de fence, but the case had made so much impression on counsel, that they were pleading for him without any tee. It was a case in which witnesses ought to be heard with great attention. If this marriage could he set aside, there was not one marriage solemnized without the consent of parents that might not be made a nullity. The Bishop of LONDON having taken up this bill with inten tion to carry it into a law, was desirous of saying a few words in answer to the observations of the noble marquis. He had never said the case was one of abduction, but conspiracy. The person had been found guilty of conspiracy. There had been no consum mation of the marriage, and that was the mason she was called Miss Hickson. After a few words from the Earl of ELDON, the pi tiiinr was laid on the table. Lord DACRE presented a petition from Farnham. ag:tinq the punishment of death for forgery. Lord HOLLAND presttattl a petition from Gainsborough, to the same effect. GALWAV CORPORATION BILL. Earl GREY presented a petition from Galway, in support of the bill to give to Roman Catholics the same privileges which Protes tants enjoy in Galway. It was signed by the Grand Jury at the last Spring Assizes, and bore the signatures of twelve cornmoil council and litly-two resident freemen of Galway. The noble earl said there was any intention to oppose the bill, he should fix a day for the second reading. If no such intention was entertained, he should move the second reading on that occasion. The Duke of WELLINGTON a ished the noble earl to l”.tpone the second rrading until Thursday. The second reading of the Bill was accordingly fixed for Thursday. Lord HOLLAND presented, for an illustrious person (the Duke of Sussex) a petition from the Roman Catholic inhabitants of Gal way, to the same effect as that presented by Earl they. WELCH JUDICATURE. Earl CAWDOR presented a petition from Pe.nbroke against the bill for altering the \Vetch judicature. The petitioners prayed they might be allowed to preserve their assize towns. The Earl of RADNOR presented a petition from the freeholders and other inhabitants of the county of Cornwall, complaining of dis tress, and praying for reform in Parliament. STAMP DUTIES. Earl DARNLEY presented a petition from the Directors of va rious institutions in lieland, against the prosed increase of duties on Stamps. Also, a petition from a pan o f Wexford, against the Select Vestty Act. GREECE. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY, after the occurrence of a former evening, thought he might stand excused by their lordships for asking the noble earl (Aberdeen) one or two questions.—(A laugh.) It was very distressing that the noble earl should think he had not read or looked at the papers. The noble earl must be aware that he would not submit to be silent under such an observa tion. It was his desire to be fully informed of the contents of the papers, and as an independent peer of parliament, he was en. titled to call for explanation, on points in the papers, which re quired explanation. At the same time when he saw persons in the government opposed to an illustrious person, Prince Leopold, he had a right to expect they would run him down. The papers were garbled, and it was impossible to understand them. The noble marquis took one position. In the course of this momentous transaction (the negociationa for the settlement of Greece) Austria and Prussia had been inimical--that fact, in his opinion, was a great point in the &Skies of Europe. With that assertion he would ' take his post, and tell the noble earl that he did not think Austria' . and Prussia were co-operating and persevering in the transaction to which he alluded. He had said the same thing on a former eve. sling, and the noble earl declared that was not the fact, yet, upon his official responsibility, declared it would be injurious to the public service to produce the papers required. He did not wish to do anything prejudicial to the public service, but he had a right to ask the noble earl in that instance whether the noble earl had any objection to give to the house a copy of Sir Edward Cocking. ton's letter of the 6th of January, 1826, inclosing a letter from Sir Henry Wellesley, of October, 1827, relating to the views of Austria on the occupation of Greece. During the whole proceed ings since the batte of Navarin, Austria lied rot expressed her de. Bided approbation. The Earl of ABERDEEN said, that if he had known from the noble Marquis the nature of his motion, he could have given him an answer. At that time he was unable to say whether the papers could be produced or not. Adverting to what had passed on the subject of the papers, it would be in the recollections of their lord. ships that the noble Marquis was desirous of having proof that as. surances had been given on the part of Austria, and therefore he pointed out in the papers that assurances had been given. When l the motion of the noble Marquis was argued, he understood that certain opinions hostile to the proceedings of Austria were enter tained by another noble Lord, and such a description was given of the proceeding as induced him to consider himself obliged,with refe rence to the public service, to object to the motion. Lord HOLLAND said, when the noble Marquis explained his motion, he (Lord Holland) understood him to say that there were other papers which could throw light upon the policy pursued by Austria. The noble Baron had consequently contended that his Majesty's governm e nt ought to produce such papers. It ought not to appear to the house that assurances of emoperation with the Allies, in their proceedings against Turkey, had been given by Austria, if those assurances were not sincere. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY in reply said, a letter from Baron Blelethen would furnish light upon the subject. He had rea son to be satisfied that with respect to Austria and Prussia, the house could not derive from the papers any information at aIL If they could get the despatch from Sir Edward Codrington, the house would be able to judge how far Austria and Prussia were included in the transaction. Should the noble earl refuse the document, his hope was that a case would be made out to justify the refusal. If Austria and Pnissia were not co-operating, that unfortunate circum stance would be the germ of future mischief—the effect of which no' one could foresee. It wis desirable to keep all the great powers in union ; but, under the present policy, his majesty's government had diverged from that centre. NYith respect to the views of a noble baron (Lord Holland) he could not feel that the noble baron acted with hint. The noble baron was a Greek, and he (Lord Londor. deny) was a Turk—(laughter)—hut whether Greek or Turk, the papers before the house were not in a state to satisfy the country.' He wished to know whether the noble lord, in courtesy, would give him what he required ? ' The Earl of ABERDEEN made no answer. ABOLITION 01' FEES JILT.. Earl DARNLEY moved that officers in the ainsy be exempt &cm payment of all fees, on the demise of the crown. The LAW D CHANCELLOR suggested the propriety of the house going into committee on tic bill. lle approved of the amenenteitt of the noble earl, and hell two or three of a similar cha. ratter to propose I.) the 11°1,4. if the bill. however, were now read a second time jet forma, and constoitted, it might then be printed together with the amendments, and their lordships would be able to judge properly of it. After a few words front the Duke of WELLINGTON, in support of the clause introduced by the noble earl (Datnley,) The house went into a committee on the bill, and after some ' verbal amendments, it was ordered to be printed. On the motion of the Marquis of DOWNSH IRE, the Bog. draining (Ireland) Bill was reported. after a few words from Earl MALYESBIJIY and the Duke of WELLINGTON. THE TONGERT DILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, in refrrence to a mo t im portant bill which had passed the other H 01164: of Parliament, he should take the liberty of moving that a message be sent to the House of Commons for certain papers relative to the general law of England on the subject of forgery, together with an appendix.— Ordered. SIR JONAH BARRINGTON. Counsel were then called in, on the part of the Crown, in the case of Sir Jonah Barrington. The Attorney. General and Solicitor-General appeared as counsel for the crown. The LORI) CHANCELLOR inquired who appealed for Sir Jonah Burin ? Sir Jonah Barrington answered, that he intended to conduct his Own Mee. The Attorney-General stated the cue from the printed minutes of the House of Commons, after which Mr. Pinnean was called as a witness, and examined at consider.. able length regarding certain of the char g es preferred against Sir Jonah. Their Lordships then adjourned the examination until the ar rival of certain papers from Paris, which were deemed material to the cause. Adjourned at Nine o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, illosuAY, Jews It The Marquis of CHANDOS presented a petition front Giasgow, for a reduction of the duty on sugar. Lord MILTON presented a similar petition fmm Lath., and a petition for the abolition of Negro Slavery, from Huddersfield. Lord A. HILL presented a petition from Downshire, against any increase of taxation in Irelraul ; and a petition from tl' e rotestem of the parish of St. Patrick, in Downshire, against the Vestry Mr. FERGUSON moved for returns of the causes Chant.. re atandir.g for hearing; and of the number of appeal: standing i. r heating in the House of Lords.—Agreed to. Lord hIOUNTCHARI.ES presented a rift Lys front I lonegal, against any increase of taxation in Ireland • :rut! against the intro. duetion of poor laws into Ireland. Geuetai HART presented a petition frem Losolond. 171, against any it : ase taxation in Ireland. ilet,•ral A RCHDA Lly supported tlw prayer of the petition. Mr. O'CONNELL said, there V*-1s but one opitifon is Ireland on the impolicy of increasing ttixation in Ireland ; Ell parti,s, bowies er difercnt in polities or religion, were united in their opposition to the proposed measure. It was impos-ifs!: to resist row voice of a united people, and the sooner the minister declar.vl his intention to ohm. don the proposed taxes, the so .ner would lw put an end to the heartburnings that existed in Ireland. Mr. PENDARVIS presented a petition limn Cornwall, com plaining of distross, and praying for a Reform in Parliament. Arr. LAII . I.hIY ptesemed a petition front Birmingham, for an equally .'ion of the duties on East svd West India sugars. bor.! AIORPETH postponed further proceedings on the N.', them i{i•ad Bill to Thursday. COMMITTEE OF VATS AND MAIM The CHANCEIILOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the House reolve itself into a Committee of iVays and Means. satr. or print amt.. Sir E. K NATCHBULL said he would take that opportunity of asking the Chancellor or the Exchequer when he proposed to ',m ecca with the Sale of Boer Bill ? It was a subject that excited great anxiety, and that , night to be brought to &conclusion. The CHANCELLt /It of the EXCHEQUER said he would ! , e most happy to proce e d with th e bill t h a t n i g h t, if h e t h oug h t i , could be brought bet Ore the house sufficiently early to smut of situ discussion as gentlemen appeared to wish it should receive; hut, he fewea there was little probability that would be the case: tutu to-morrow night would. Lit believed, be so fully occupied by tnattlt. r subject, that he was afraid there would not then be sufficient tin... for its discussion ; and on the whole he thought it might he h. tt. r to postpone the further consideration to Thursday, with the under standing that it should then certainly come on.--(Hear.) Sir E. KNATCIIBULL expressed himselfperfectly satisfied eiat this arrangement. Mr. GORDON wished to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether there was any truth in the report that Government intetakd to abandon the bill altogether ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said lie could as sure the bon. gent. that if such a report existed it was wholly with out foundation, and he was glad the hon. gent. had asked the question to give hint an opportunity of giving the report the fullest contradiction. He was confident the house, after the fullest dis cussion, would think It right to confirm its former decision. SUGAR DUTIES. The Marquis of CHANDOS said he had already given not ice for moving a resolution for a reduction of the duty onWest India sugar. The effect of the present high duty on sugar was injurious to the public, and ruinous to the planter. The fall in the value of pro perty in the West ladies was enormous, and beyond :ill proportion greater than what had taken place in this country. The West In. dians were, in fact, in a stout of suffering that loudly called for the interposition of the legislature for their relief. In many cases then property was wholly unproductive, owing to the high duty paid on the importation of their sugars in this country, by which its con sumption was diminished, and its price kept lower that• it would otherwise be. The landed interest of England was protected, att•l he hoped it would unite in extending protection to the West interest ; and would move that a duty of 275. per cwt. on sugar was too great, and was injurious to the general prosperity of the country The noble lora moved that the duty of 27e. per cwt. on West India sugar was ii;onv:iment with a due consideration of the state of the colonies, and anti the general interest of the country. Air. BIARRYOTT supported the resolution. The colonist was taxed by being obliged to receive his articles of consumption front the United Kingdom and British American colonies, instead of those countries from which he might procure th:m cheaper. He was also taxed by being compelled to employ British shipping ; and all these taxes amounted to not less than ss. a hundred on sugar. The effect of raising the price of sugar by taxation was, that the con. sumption fell short of the importation 50,000 hogsheads, which was the true cause of the planters' distress. The CIIANCELLOIt of the EXCHEQUER said, he was fully aware of the great sufferings endured by the West India planters ; but the House was aware of the large revenue raised by the sugar duty, and that if a great reduction was made, they must supply the deficiency by another tax. It reduction was possible, the tax on sugar was cue on which it might be made with advautage. as it was an article of general consumption ; but as much rolue, don as could be made at present was already agreed on, and it was impossible under present circumstances to make at.y :WAIL tional, he, therefore, could not accede to his Noble Friend's motion. But if his Noble Friend had waited till the House wea: into the Committee, he would sec that he (the Chanc:lbir of tb. Exchequer) was about to propose a nvasure calculated to afford great relief to the West Indies. He meant to submit :. proposition to the committee, that when the average price of sugars should not exceed 30s. there should be a gradual reduction of duty,which should amount to 7s. a cwt. on the lower class, and Is. Gd. on the highest, and on the middle classes in a propurtion betwetn these sums. This measure would afford great relict to the West !tidies, and he hoped would not be injurious to the revenue. The particulars of the mea. sure he would exclaim in the committee, and only stated an outline now to show that he had not been Inattentive to the West India in. terests. 3lr. HUME asked whether the came scab waa to he applitAl to sugars coming from the East Indic• ? The CHANCELLOR of the I.XCHEQUER said he would explain the measure fully in the commi:tee. Mr. BARING said, as the Chancellor of the Exchequer meant to propose anew measure in the committee, he heiwd the noble lord would withdraw his motion till that nte.tsure was explained. Lord CHANDOS said, he was so cenvinced of the necc.>ity of his motion, that he should persist in taking the sense of Vic house on it. .31r. HUSKISSON said, he felt that the duty on sugar ooglit to be reduced ; but when a minister of the crown said he had a urea. sure to propose, which included a nettle:Jun of duty, he thought he ought to be allowed to explain it to the house.—(hear, hear.) Sir A. GRANT thought areduction of th, duty on sugar was nc. comity, but thought the Chancellor of the Exchequer should be al. lowed to explain his plan ; and when the details were known amendments might be proposed. Ile hoped his noble frict.d would allow it to he explained in the comnottee. Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS thoug!it the propositions contained in the noble lord's resolution were perfectly true. The duty of 275. was injurious both to the West Indies and the country. Knowing as he did the representations made to his noble friend, he felt that he would not have discharged the duty he had undertaken if he di, l not bring turward the resolution he bad moved. Mr. C. GRANT said, it appeared to him to be an unpotliamen. tart' course when a minister of the crown laid he had a plan to propose, not to allow him to explain it to the house. The noble lortl would not lose any opportunity of making his motion by al. lowing the Chancellor of the Exchequer to explain his plan, which, however, he feared would not be as extensive as the wants of the country required. Mr. MANNING supported the resolution. The house divided— For going into the comn:ittee . lO2 Again►t it filajority The house went into the committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he would at once state to the house the mew.ure he had to propose. lie had not opposed the motion of his noble friend front any want of feeling fur the suffering of those who were most affecied by the sugar dude*. Although he did not deem himself authorised at present to propose a general reduction of the duty on wpm, he felt that such a reduc tion might hereafter be deemed expedient. But, after the reductions that had already been made in taxation, it might be luisaidotta to make an extensive reduction in the duty on sugar. His object. at present, was to afford relief to that interest which most required it. without hazard to the revenue. The planter, whose estates produci el tie finest sugars, was comparatively suffering but little ; but be. whose estates, produced only inferior sugar, was suffering severe dis. tross.--(Hear.)--A calculation had been made between the produce of two estates, one producing fine sugar. and the other coarse, by which it appeared that the former, on a produce of 130 hogs heads of sugar left a profit of 1,9381. which was a great falling off, but not much more than had taken place on other property ; but on the ether estate, winch produced an equal quantity of agar, only inferior in value, the proprietor derived a profit something km than 1001. This was a reason for affording relief to the party whose property was so utterly unproductive. The manner in which be meant to afford relief he would now state. The t duty on sugar was 275. per cwt. without any reference to value. A weekly average of the price of sugar was taken in the London market. He would propose that when the average did not exceed 30a. there should be a reduction of duty, making on the lowest priced sugars of twenty shill a reduvion of seven shillbgs duty; and on su gars of twos above the average price, a reduction of la. 6d. te On the intermesh prices in proportion. The s ugar was gene . hin V ta rally sold in the R ing's warehouses, and there cou ld be tin diMeulty in giving tact to the arrangement. He did not 1...1 •