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the Sub-letting Act; and front two parishes in Curt and Owl Queen's county, against the Vestry Act.—Ordered to lie on the tableZ-The Noble Marquis then presented a petition from the in habitants of Glasgow, praying for an enlargement of the City C2urt House. Lord RIVERS presented a Petition from slz united parishes In Southampton, and from another parish in Southamptor, against granting any further Concessions to the Roman Catholic• and also Oiling that the Elective Franchise of Ireland alight be placed upon a more Constitutional system.—Ordered to lie on the table. Viscount LORTON prevented Petitions against the Catholics, signed ►y tosivehusalaed of the inhabitants of Roscommon; by three thousand Ave hooded and thirty-seven of the Protestant. of Sligo ; by a number of the inhabitants of Leitrim ; and by seven hundred and sixteen of the inhabitants of Ibryle. These Petitions. the Noble Lord observed, ascribed the evils'of Ireland to the pro ceeding. of the Jesuits and the errors of Popery, an opinion in which be concurred. Sari V RRULA 1l presented Petitions against the Catholics from Grinstead, the parish of Penfold, the town of Newcastle under-Lyne, Tamworth, to Warwickshire, and several parishes in Rase: and Hertford. The Earl of SHAFTRSRURY presented a Petition against the Catholics from the inhabitants of Dorchester, in Dorsetshire, signed at a very numerous meeting; from the inhabitants of the borough of Renfrew; and from Charlbury, Oxfordshire. - Their Lordships then adjourned at a QUAILTIS east saw, until Thursday morning. HOUSE OF COMMONS. CLA RE WIRCTIOIL The being the day appointed for ballotting for a Committee to tate into consideration the Petition complaining of an undue return for the County of Clue, a great number of Members attended at an early hour. The following are the names of the Committee, as reported after the ballot. by Mr. Dyson. the °elk, at the Bar of the House : . John Kaathope. Esq. Sir George art. Hoe. it. H. Janes Brougham, Esq. E. B. Clive, Robinson,itsq. James Stuarts Rsq. Hon Henry T. Liddell, Right Hon. T. P. Courtenay, Ito. ben Shapland Carew, Esq. Hon. J. H. Knox, and Lord Wm. 11 smell. • The Right - Hoe. Robert Pam. took the oaths and his seat for Westbury. CA TISOLSO =ARC STATION. TRANT presented a Petition, signed by 1,701 inhabitants of Dover, praying that no further concessions might be granted to the Roman Catholics. LORD NUGENT said, that be bad reason to believe the pe titloo was very far indeed limn expressing the sense of the majority of the inhabitants of Dover. Alt. P. THOMSON stated the circumstances under which the petition was got up r Amon others it having been signed by cbildreo. After a few words from Mr. Teaser, In reply, the petitioe was brought up, read. and ordered to be printed. kir. P. THOMSON then pre voted two counter petitions from this same place.—Ordered to be primed. Mr. F. WILSON presented sixteen Peti ions from Shiptun, Copmatitkorp, Marston, and other parishes in Yorkshire, against say further Coneession to the Roman Catholics. Sir JOHN NICHOL,. presented Petitions from the Areladem i &buries of tliddlesex and Loudon, praying that no further men. awn may be granted to the Roman Caltoles. DUSLIDI ROTUNDA !PETITION. Mr. BROWNLOW lose to present a Prlition. which vas already well known under the name of the Rotunda Petition. He felt n.uch honoured in having been se lected to present this Petition. which, whether he con sidetedihe nature of the meeting at which it had been agreed tr., or the numbers and rank of those who bad, vetted the Pstition, would. he Ito ugh'. be entitled to the most serious consists-racial; of every intelligent per. SIM in that House or in the country. The meeting at which the Petition bad been agreed to was the first of the kind that had ever taken place in Ireland, and con ism/ of persons of all rank., professions, and religious denomination ; it was, in tact, a general assembly, re. presenting the whole of the Irish nation. Acting on the principle that Terre est (ladles - Where m ar, they had thrown aside all their sectarian differences. and all united its representing to the Legislature the alarming danger which imreaded over the co untry,- I* pointing out the danger they had also suggested the remedy. They said that the laws which had been es• paxi.lly directed against the Roman Catholics of be lied had producei the reetest injery to all classes in that country. He (Mr. ) agreed with the Petitioners its thinking that this question was unjustly called the Cathol.c Question, as the Protestants were more inte rested than the Catholics on the result. These laws had thrown a sword between the Protestants and Ca tholict, and until they were axed upon an equal footing in the eye of the law there would be no security for that handful of Protestant'. surrounded as they were by millions of Roman Catholics, enemies exasperated by the laws under which they had been so long oppressed. Those who asserted that the general sense of the P.O - of Ireland was adverse to the emancipation of the Roman Catholic., went far beyond ihi fact, as he should prove by a reference to the Protestant declara tion which had been laid before the Crown, and to which' so fit an answer had Leen made in the message of his Majesty to Parliament. He should now read the re. quisition and the Petition. and, having called the atten tion of the House to the number and quality of the signatures, he should leave it to the House to say whether he bad gone beyond the bare fact in stating that the sense of the Protestants of Ireland was decidedly in favour of the settlement of the question. Here the Hon. Member read the requisition, and the Protestant declaration, which was signed by two Dukes, seven Marquises, twenty-six Earls, eleven Viscounts, twenty.two Beton% all Irish Protestant proprietors ; by two Count% twenty two Batonets, and fifty-two Members of the House of Commons, and other Gentlemen nos easing millions of landed property in Ireland. Iwo-thirds cf the Irish Members of Parliament supported the Catholic Bill—a large majority of the Peers of Ireland equally supported it ? The answer to these facts was, that a large body of the yeomanry of Ireland were apposed to it, and un doubtedly such was the fact. Notwithstanding which he trusted that the removal of all religious distinction. between Irishmen was at hand, and that they would thenceforward is Ireland, as every *hoe else ip the world, live in cordiality with each other. Mr. HUSKISSON said that, considering the kba racier of the petition which the Hon. Member for Armagh had now proposed to bring up—considering the rank and respectability if those whose signatures were attached to it—and considering also their local knowledge and general information on the que.tion, their acquaintance with the difficulty and if:roger which might result from the rejection of the Carbolic Claims, be thought that that Petition *as entitled in a peculiar manner to the attention of the House. He respected the honest prejudices of the people; he was not, there fore, eine who would say that those Petitions were ni entitled to the consideration of Patlianicnt. At the same time, he could not help regretting that it was not at public meetings that those Petitions were in general agreed upon. , he immure to which they were now ;hoot to turn their attention wits inevitable. Never did a question press itself with so much force on the Coun cils of any nation. Ile had heard, indeed, of two pora sihle courses to be followed in resistance of the Claims of the Catholics. One, he was almost ashamed to say, was by an appeal to the sword—(flear, hear). The ether mode was by a dissolution of Perla auseut. For. tunately, by the Constitution of this country the Crown could not take a step of this nature without the advice of perm*, responsible for such advice, and he was quite sore that the. present Ministers would not recommend lath a uneeenre. The Right Hestoerable Gentleman than proceeded to contend that it would be.. impossibl. in the pteseat stale of the ctsitry. to form a Ministry iminimmts is 4 its oppositioo to the Catholic Claims, and Ise 'mead to be able to say_ the necessity of forming amtized Adminisemtion,no longer eoimoal s tefr. OU G 1) A I said he cosmic! arr'th his Righ t Hon. Pitend in his opinion that it was the duty of every man to allay the fears and apprehensions that had been elicited throughout the crumy; still, he believed, that the attempts to delude and mislead the peole had not been so successful as his Right Honourable Friend sup posed. That attempts were making to persuade the less ecittcosted and less thinking portion 4 f the pent le that this was a religious question, every day's esperieoce proved, but he trusted to the rood sense of the people, and to the efforts ef their better-informed neighbours, for a remedy against those attempts to mislead and d.- lude. He folly coocurred in o t oinitais with his Right Hon. Friend that it would be impossible to form a Go vernment on a principle contrary to conces.ion. To form a Government of Mixed opinions was equally im possible. The Huns and Learned Gentleman then pro ceeded to defend the late change in theorinions of malty members of his Majesty's Government, contending th.t 'no Statesman could be blamed for listening to the alarms and fears suggested by a sense of the enormous dangers to which the country was exposed. It was wise, it was the duty, of a Statesman to listen not to threats of personal danger, or the fcars or apprehensions of friends, connexion, or party, but to the tear of injury to that country, tie Goiernment of which he had sworn to administer discreetly, to avoid all dangers that might menace her, ~ n d most particularly those that might, by possibility, lead to civil war—(Hear, hear). When, therefore, he heard that the Protestants of Ire land, who formetly fought against the Catholics, were ready (and when a Gallant Offi er told the House that they were willing) once (pore to fight agaiust them— ...hen he heard that they and their leaders out of the House, and their organ in that House, had proclaimed such readiness and such willingness for conffict--who could say that the dangers of which his Majesty's Mi nisters had spoken were chimes ical, and that the fears professed to be entertained by them referred nut to the appiehension of that worst of all calamities—political distraction, ending in civil war? In adopting his let: course with respect to the Catholic question, the Duke Wtl:i ‘gt. n had risked his popnlarity,his favour sti,b his party, and relinquished his own long entertained opinions. He was, doubtless, uuetly inaccessible to ; err nal fear; but that he should be accessible to the wise, honest, an I statesmanlike apprehension of danger to this country. from which even lie could not te.cue her, proved in a peculiar manner his fitness for presiding over her Government—(H-ar, hear). In the pie.ence a f Vie Right Honou: able Gentleman opposite (Nla. Peel) he should say less than he should be dis posed to do were he absent; but having had no pre vious opportunity of expressing his opinion of the le cent conduct of that Right H uourata • Gentleman, be used the present one to say, that that silence had been dictated by any motive rather than a disincl nation or reluctance to join in any panegyric which even his moot enthusiastic admirers could or might pronounce . Mr. Cr. 0. MOORE sad that tl.e H .n. M. tuber for Armagh had spoken of the petition before the House as if it had emanated from a genera meeting, but, so far from deserving that character, it had been a meet ing got up for the sole purpose of giving a fame' assent to a set of Resolutions previously agreed to. In proo' of that asseition, he begged to state that a Protestant Gentleman had gone to that meeting for the purpose of declaring his sentiments, but was told that the Reso. lutions had been agreed to, and could not be discussed --(Hear). The Petition then before the House embodied what was called the Protestant declaration. He had no doubt that the Noblemen and Members of Parliament who bad signed that declaration bad done soconscien tiously, but he thought differently of the other two thousand persons who had subscribed their names to ii. The system of intimidation (called the non intercourse system) is:commended by the Catholic Association, bad no daunt bad its effect in producing many of those sig. natures--(Hear). He should only obtrude on the House one instance out of many of the manner in which that system was enforced. One of his constituents, a most respectable silk manufacturer rit Dublin, was In the babit . of supplying with articles of his manufactnte a mercer who was a Roman Catholic. While the Pro- estant declaration was in progress of signature the astufacturer had sent some of his goods for the inspec tioo of the mercer, and when he called for his orders was asked by the mercer's wife had be signed the Pro-1 tenant declaration ? He replied in the negative, that he never interfered in political matters. Tne reply was, " You had better sign, for it you do not you shall lose our custom." His answer was." I employ several Roman Catholic workmen. What would you think if l were to dis- miss them on account of their religion? I • ill do no such thing, for it is contiary to the sprit of Protestantism." He was pressed again and ag .in to sign, but r. fused. The consequence was, that the pieces of silk which had Lain at she mercer's house for inspection were returned to him the next day—(Hear). In reply to an observation of the Right Hou. Gtutleasan (Mr. Huskisson) respect ing the superior degree of consideration due t r the petition then before the House, on account of, the local situation and local infornot , ion of the subscribers to it, he could tell that Right Hon. Gentleman that, nume rous and respectable as those signatures were, they wuuld be found as nothing in comparison to the weight, number, talents, and importance of those signatures which lied been &Sled to petitions slimly btf or the House against the Catholic Claims, and to others still to be presented—(Cheering). Mr. H. GRATTAN had heard quite a different &c -ecinas about the Dublin silk.matsulacturer; but the "account, whichever way it was taken, only went to show the distracted state of society in Ireland. The petition expressed the opinion of the majority of the Prutestant rank, property, and respectability of Ireland. Mr. TRANI' denied that the late return of the re presentative Peer for Ireland was • just notion of the. political feeling of the Protestants of Ireland. The P,totestant Peers of Ireland were not le't to the un coptroulled exercise of the it 011/1) opinion• in the choice of a representative. The Irish Government had interposed its it Buena. to decide the eketinn.— The content was not left between the Protestant and Catholic parties in the peerage. The cattle of Dublin threw its weight into the scale, and effected the r etu rn of the Catholic candidate. As to the Right Hon. Gentleman's assertion that it was impossible to form a mixed Ministry, or one adverse to the coricessions of the' Catholic claims, the assertion reminded him of a saying of the late King's, that, if he could not form a Cabinet on Protestant pi inciples out of the professional states men, he would walk from Whitehall to Charing. cross, and take for his Ministers the first, eleven or twelve men he met with decent co ses on their back aid throw himself on the loyalty of his people— (Cheers). But there was no nece.si!'y for resorting to that measure now, for, not to talk of himself and other stupid old fellows in Parliament, he was sure that, if the Protestant principles which hedbeen adoptedby the country were adopted in the Cabinet, there was Prover, . . teottelma mu pgh in the country ko beim. them tut—' pot ti. He *maid admit that it up9illa he di calf 4 fiettictform an eaclusively i Protestai4 was tare that some Gentlamen,,ridvokates of she t;arto tic 'pause. yet whose Cathodic raiinsgns wets tokiret, wiggly rooted, might b found ready to take slEce io such a Cabitiet it they sere Usti. ed, and, tia u ; ;11 at hi de me for any thing else, might he used but a time ti stop a gap—(Laujihtes). He remembered a time when, a thousand miles off, he head of a patty called " all the talents,* who said then, as some Gentlemen di • t' night, thit Catholic Emancipation mast be p acted. and that it was impossible tolosm an Adiainistiatiotion tine principle of ezclusioo; jet at that tame a Bight lion. G. sideman (Mr. Perceval). wh• se loss they had reason to deplore, fair med as anti-Catholic A dati mists so ion - 414, though that Administration was said to be so in competent that is coul.l not last ass months. it laved •iateen years after; and it his Right Hon. Frie..d (Mr Peel) had adhered to his party, he would have found .hat such an Adrninistra . ion would be able to last many )liars to coarse—(Cheers) As to the idea that the Cott. tem • n 4,f . the Cat bioliC Claims was a mutter of in evitable s.etessity, Gentlemen talked as it the fairs bad Decreed ft as if tle.e was no politic.) poser Which c old prevent it, and as if all who opposed it were besotted: As to the charge of iatimiJat.oo. be ' did not mean by the term that his Right Houoiirable Fiend (Mr. Peel), or the other Members of the Cabe • set, were influenced by personal fear. What he said was, that the Catholics, having agitated to the very verge of rebellion, and finding nothing to be got by petitions or remonstrances, had adopted ulterior met Mite*. and that the liar of those ulterior plans had in duced the Government to recommend the =there of Concessioa. Now, it he could bring himself to think that the Catholics would be satisfied with that mea sure, he would nut be much inclined to oppose it; but be was sure Emancipation alone was nut their object. In fact, their design was, as one of their leaders had expressed it, to tear down the Protests* Church of Deland is the first ',asset, and afterwards the Pro testant Church of England. One of the Catholic Bishops had said that the Church of England must fall—tkat emancipation would hasten it, and therelose he liked em.ncipation. An Honourable Gentleman had insinuated that he (Mr. T) had not a light to speak on this subject, because he was in a distant country for many years while the question was no der discussion in this couotty. But he wi aid coo tend that be had a tight to speak out as an Leith man, and the owner of no inconsiderable property, all of which was in Ireland. But. though not in !rased all that time, be had read its history. He could not but remember the conduct of the Catholics in the time of James the Second —( Mutants' a). Gentlemen may murmur. but was he to make no allusion to matters of history without being met by monomer? Was he to throw aside the page of history as if it were an old al• manac k ?—(Cheer.). But he had pummel knowledge of land, and of the Catholics too; and. knowing all he did of them, he wished t ► withhold (toe cheat the power now sought t• be given to them. Not only for the sake of the Protestants would he withhold it, but for the sake f the Catholics themselves, for they bad suffered as much as the hotestants front Catholic superstition and bigotry. In conclusioo, be must repeat leis opinion that the concession of these claims was not a matter of inevi• table necessity—(Cheers). Colonel ROCHFORD defended General Archdall, who was absent, from some allusions made to a speech delivered by the G.lllant General on a former eveniog, and asserted, that that Gallant General did more to Irish Catholics in one year th an was done for rm d by all the speeches which had been delivered in that House in their favour. Mr. BROUG HA M, in explsnatioa, assured the Hon. Member that be was not aware of the absence of the Gallant General, when he alluded to some observations made by him on a former occasion. Mr. 11USKISSON also explained. He repeated that he was averse to any measures which were calculated to lead to bloodshed or (all conteottun.—The Petitioas were ordered to be primed. _ General KING presented two Petitions--one trim Boyle, county Itaseonumon ; and the other front a district is tie toasty of Sligo, against the Catholic (,'Limy (,'Limyel prowored a Petition from the Noble. nsen, Gentlemen, and Clergy of Westnatath, against all further Confession to the Catholics. Sir G. ROISINSON presented Petitions in favour of Catholic Emancipation from two Distention Congregations in Northamr ton, and a third signed by ;he general inhabitation: the same town. Lord G. CAVENDISH presented Petitions in favour of Con cession Irons the Unitarians of lielmout and Presbyterians of Duffield. Air. LIA LFOUR presented a Petition from Pettyweu against Emancipation. Alt. MOUG AN presented • Petition from Brecon In favour of the Catholic Claims. Colonel WOOL) testified to the temptrate language et the Pe tition. Slr. WILLIASIS presented a Petition front Dorchester against further Conevitions to the Catholics. Mr. H. HITE presented lour Petitions from parishes of the county of Dublin. praying Emancipation. Sir GB(1UGB COTTKRELL (Herefordshire) presented a Petition from the Clergy and Gentry of the city of Hereford aping farther Concession to the Catholics. Lord EASTNOII. bore testimony to the number of the signa tures, and the respectability of the subscribers, though be could not accord with for prayer. After a few words frees Mr. E. B. CLIVE, the Paddock was laid on the table. Mr. R. &CLIVE pretested a Petition from the city of Here ford, praying the Home to take sock awesome for the relief of the Roman Catholicise would be found combust with the integrity of the Protestant Betahartgarat. It was sigma by LSO freesias and Gentlemen residing M and seer the city of Hereford. Ur. CURRY relented a Petition from the Protests.* helm. Wants of Newtown Stewart, in the county of Tram. sad also a Patinas from Newtown Stewart, in synod. profit' that so farther concessions might be greened to the Rosman Catimiks. Lord TULLAMOHig pnisemsd a similar Petition from the Protestant thwenten assembled in Blandford.street Chapel, near Manchester square. Mr. HULL presented a similar Petition from a Pada is the county et Nunbumberimed. Mr. LIDDELL said. that the petitioners lived in a secluded part of Northumberland. *ad rice not corn peteot to judge of the propriety or expediency of grant log the Roman Catholic Claims. He knew that at the time of the discussion on the tepee' of the Test and Corporation Acts, those illy . yer sons bad expressed their surptist that so much trouble should be taken to repeal Acs of which they hissi sew beard. This. however, was no argument against the tepee' of those Acts. There were the names of many respectable persons at tached to the petitious ; but he could safely say that the great majority were ignorant et t h e soaks the case. Mr. BELL said, that the Petitiee bore 5110 signs. hirer, proctsted in the course of eight days. in a very &malt parish. There were no ssettiosis used to procure' those Signatures. tl.er were given voluntarily, and he I could bear testimony to their respectability. Mr. G. MOORE presented a Petition against Catho tic Emancipation horn the inbabitents of the patisb Of St. Leonard'., Slivreditch, The Petition originated is A public meeting, at which eoentergesolmions wens proposed and lost by a inajority of three to one. The petit'on was signed by 64763 of the patishronerS, and it would have bad 3,000. evore * Artillery, .had not the number of the perisbiseere signed the Loud= sad Westminster Petition. Mr. BARING requested that the petition might be real It called upon the Ii •use net to pass oteasuiw, tallith *mild undermine the stability of the Thrum. I * this prayer he (wily cnncurres,and sould have sigoesk such a petition himself. These VIA• is. thing in it orpi. be d to the eginsidetation cf the question by the Howie. Ms. G. MOORE ciustended that the nieaning of the petr:ione,a evidently embraced the memeees of Cath..bc Emancipst about to be biought.befire the House. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said that the pest asrinaty of those who signed these petitions, in arse about Lo. don, knew eery little of their contents, or of ILO idbjeus to which they telerred. The Honourable Washer then gave as account of what he had seen at ,he .:iffesetst places whore peiitions ale signed, and a devcfas gilts of what to considered the infamous and 11,asueful At, that weir sesorted to. . _ Mt. MOORE ',id, that as rot OW word of whet bad fallen Crum the Honourable Alderman applied to t: is petition ► he ahould not waste the time of the House by replying to it. Mt. BROUt.iHAM said he had a Petition to prewiii Irom the p.rues who more.' the Amendment to this Prunus), but who sere dote tots by a majority of Mei to far. Mi. BARING said that a Petition was coming front the Common C. uncil. of the City of London, hoot which the opinkn of the City of London would besot be gained. Ur. 0 NEILL said, that if Gentlemen who had be. tome so fond of Scrutiniziog Petitions would look at the Catholic Petitions that came from Ireland, they would find that there the schoolmaster had been abroad with a vengeance. There were freqtaently 30. and 40, and 50 signatures in one handwriting. But be would . give these Honourable Members leave to strike off what titer numbers they liked from the Petitions, still the weight of public opinion would beat him out in the assertion, that the voice of the people of England was decidedly against Concession: The Petition was ordered to be printed. Mr. MOORE bad another petkition to present to the same effect from the county of Dublin. Tim petitioners complained of the undue influence which the Catholic Clergy, under the direction of the Catholic Association, had made use of at elections, particularly in their own i county, and in the counties of Louth, Waterford. Ste. influence which wes totally subversive of the freedom of election. The inhabitants of the ccit sty of Dublin were justified in this complaint, became they had an opportunity of expel iencing the fatal effects of their in fluence. The petition was signed by two thorsand in. dividusls, five of whom were Peels, many of them Ma. gist. ates and Clergymen, and the greeter poo twit the majority of the respectable Protestants of the county. Mr. H. GRAT TAN, as* freeholder of the county sy Dublin, and as a member of the Committee For coo ducting the election of the popular candidate,, must give the assertion, as far as it regooded the exercised' undue influence on the part of the Priests, the most un qualified contradiction. Mr. A. DAWSON felt called upon to declare, ass& lusion had been made to the county of Louth, that be I did not owe his election to any undue influence on the pint of the priests, ur to their influence at all. He bad never appealed to the religious feelings or religious pre. judices of his constituents; bet, if the Catholic clergy did exert themselves in elections, had not the Protestant clergy shown them the (sample? Nor bad the latter the same reason for interfering. He must repeat that in the county of Louth no undue influence bad bees exercised by the clergy. Mr. G. MOORE said it was notorious that Is Ire land spiritual influence in the most coercive sense of the word bad been exerted by the Catholic Priest. hood; he begged to distinguish this species of power• from the innocent they might naturally be supposed' to possess as the Pastors of a Christian Church—that degree of authority be never would deny them. The • Protestant Clergy bad not the means of exercising such authority, even if they were disposed to employ it. As a freeholder,* Protestant Clergyman solemnly expressed his opinion by his vote at an election, and, he sever attempted to interfere in his spiritual capacity. He remembered that evidence had been ten dered before a Committee of the House, on a Petition regarding the Dublin election, to show that Catholic Priests had threatened the most awful spiritual denun ciation against those who voted contrary to their wishes; the Committee indeed came to the determination that such was not a Parliamentary ground f o r impeaching the return; but, oevetthelessonough appeared in there- port to warrant a lull belief that such had been the fact. Mr. H. LiRATTAN considered that those charges now brought forward were but a part and parcel of MA system which seemed to be so much the fashion, pouring forth fitil libels against the Catholic Clergy. Even the sacred right of petitioning was grossly abused. But the persons who bad made these charges against Waterford. Louth, Dublin, and Monaghan, when chal lenged to the prod, were afraid to come forward. Uns , der those circumstances, he thought he was fully borne out in the assertion that those charges were not tine. He was not inclined to make invidious comparisons between the Clergy of the two Churches. lie regretted that weak, ignorant, and wicked expressions had fallen from both. His Honourable and Learned Colleague had hitherto driven and conducted the coach of the Dublin corporation entirely by himself, and with much skilful ness, and be (Mr. Grattan) could scarcely hope to over take him at present, but he did hope that before the end of the Session he should be able not only to overtake his Learned Friend, but that the daring and scientific driver might overturn the triumphal car of the mope. ration of Dublin. Mr. O'NEILL said, in reference to the condict of the Protestant Clergy, that they did not exercise, sot did they possess, the influence of the Catholic Clergy. He believed that the whole Protestant Bench of Bishops had not as much influence as one poor Curate in Ireland. Mr. G. DAWSON reprobated thsprattice of making this question a topic of debate and dissension from one end of the country to the other. What pros pect could there be of peace, when the dearest right of Britons—the Right of Petitioning—was vilified and abused ? Thus. an obvious and important injury was doge, without the attainment of the slightest counter wailing good. Unfounded charges bad been throes out against the Clergy of both faiths ; but it was, never• thelesr, notorious in Ireland, that the Priests had exerted their influence at elections. How did Hon. Gentlemen propose to prevent it; and would not the epithets so freely bestowed tend to exasperate the Catholic Clergy? It was always a serious evil to make a religious (peons A subject of rancorous debate End party discussion , Ewes in this mese calm and reasoning country. the effect had been to set brother against brother, and father against son. Mr. LLOYD assured the Home that there WU infinite deal of perjury on the part of many tithe wit nesses examined before the bid) Election Committee. Mr. G. MOORE said. that in alluding to the inter lerv.ce of the Catholic Pliestbood, he had referred to a „usage in the Petition bearing on the subject. • Mr. BANKES presented • Petition from flvormlnsters Newton Castle, in the count/ of Dorset, against la ty f -cot.ce to he 'Anted. NI:. VILE cif :et tram C a pnblie meet and had at - at by a majfireti Among the I residing in th respectably thoserise apl e flirt! bet tieti Cetb,fitics— I Inge maj *ion of the ret which he had coat,' only si 'teat bulky' , tramp finked and Je dati tit ri, t %tooth:ad a ani 'of the Estab. jper-ous Mho I 'his Monaural) At said this p that actuated 'Ace, that a signatures to as at an ell tore% and a gularly publi close of the .against Pope. of persons of won the belts meat of the P support a Mel mote the best out Constituti and State. Mr. FYLEI place to suer tbis subject. ararmn• si iu t brio* to it.— col Mr. LEIGI prv.e.stati o &Ailed by 19,1 to presebt fro' by hi. conaitt actiption Vf pt acs rdance sea, that Vie count nant of tt:e cut two Esti), by the magistrav clergymen. an the gentry, fro Lions circulate it should not years of age ; another; that I place of hi, re lowed. The la not been uric 1 into the petite eninttion of .o, would nut be t on this subject, to say that the the district ft any 'wither 412 W: bits of t aim on the s was unanisoit subj ct id a j that there wal Leicester uppc and in favour necessary for 1 a few obsertat opinion prevail that Member' 11 use were of his own past, i he had seen or his opinions—. in feeling as a Such being hi once to decla sisters had not pose the con? professed and the Noble Dul coma opt with that Noble Du ekes; but the this question this declarati.: He owed no tion ; but be I liamentary oar be adhered to considered ads daily necessar: union; but w priucipki, he I no man is deuce than in advance him h cause he could such citcumbta like the pseseni conscientiously proposed, but neral tranquilli pleasure; but could produce from the Cad which removes ject. From tb but unqualifiet *fannies— WAS convinced did not view political (limit was granted t it would be d Church. In c friends that ag 8111vtaben. A. °Onion .. bows credit w. u d lie Ace for it peat trios* us were I trents of the petition, he ha. attire distated b OW 'Med th a t ellbll.l4lj ‘ la. al