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NS, .requesting as tiretd !°i .011 40 da Y• ,40,11 s lord übjectioas !Oiciiik! WO" MR. PALkillted CLAIM . Tbe Earl of MOlRAimovedthii Girder of theddtifor the eel setae of Mr. Pahner's Bilk m g illmtlibuse went intd a C - i Mince amordiegly. • .., T 1.. t . , , The LORD CHANCELLOR* , the Committee, moved, • that the brit clause of the itill,rigianting the per-tentage of di en the net monist of the Panachiee beyond £240,000 be Muk luk As a rated for rejecting the aldose, Ise stated, that it . was lousaded wt a false recital, toirit purported, that this per-tentage should be given acerrding to the terms of the warrant of 1789, 1111ileh itilibLelSnletTrtr 3.,. statirdiftti pleasure. The preamble stated nothing hkeaapreemsnt. ,If Mr. Partner was convinced that there watiany..tyaernient, why did he not 'consent to an *Sue to 'try Whether 'Mire was one, or whether, if there was lane, it had not beau ahaadoned ; and if not abandoned, whe it had nOt beet pia an end to by Mr. l'almtr violating the oirther w eentdPions ? t heir Lordships ought also to remember, that t • the grant was to be charged upon the whole of the Post-office 3 revise., as well that part which was the hereditary revenue of `; the Crown, as that which belonged more pecularly to the pub '• lie: This same small- sum of £78,000, and £9,000 a-year, (;•siught net to be given away out of the public ntoney at any time in such a cue as this, without a clear and disinct agree -1 -meet and bargain, and there was here neither agreement nor . bargatn. The catmint of the Crown had not been given to 1 Ilds sin. • The Earl of MOIRA allowed that there was no technical agreement, but there was inch an usderstandipg as ought to bad the justice and equity of their Lordships. He also spoke far the public, whose interest it was, that great public set vices should be justly rewarded. '1 he Noble and Learned Lord could Dot rarely mean to say, that the whole of the Post office Revenue was the Hereditary Revenue of the Clown ; and if not, it ought to be known, that this per-centage did not attach upon the Post office Revenue till it went beyond £240,000, white the Here _Oar), Revenue did not amount to more than £150,000. '1 he claim was founded in equity and justice, and ought therefore to be allowed. Lord HOLLAND said, that he felt the want of Lord Somers Ise that House, in order to take care that uncoastitutional doe * trines were not promulgated from high authorities. Did the :s.l'ioble end Learned Lord mean to say, that the hereditary nave - 'nue of the Crown was beyond the controul of Parliament ? If he ,litaisunderstood tie Noble and Learned Lord, he should be glad : !to sit down, and give hitu an opportunity to explain. The Earlof LAUDERDALE said, that the Noble and Learned dard had not said that Parliament had not a controul over the • Imd-intry revenue of the Crown. He had only said, that the consent of the Crown had not been given to this Bill in this House; the necessity of which consent was a most salutary check against theanischiefs that 'Meg result from canvassing the Houses et Parliament for grants of the public money. He denied that there was any agreement whatever in this case; and contended, ,deUhis chase must be left out, as it proceeded on a recital which 1 . VAS absolutely false; but then it was said, that the House of Xasanstinsaad sesolvoll i that this ought to he a grant fur life ; 'aid they bad done it rather whimsically; for they had resolved, Ilia**. pefgataitage ought to be granted for life, according to the ;pane °fa - warrant, which all admitted was only a grant eluting I. Illisosura. Was this a reason for their Lordships to join to this .1111entrffity 1 It wet impossible, as it appeared to him, that they could do so, unless they were prepared to maintain, that the grant oaten office during pleasure, meant the same thing as granting it Idor life. His friends near him bad gene rall y held, that there was I': i very substandandistinetioa ; and Low came they to alter their 1; opinions on the present occaskin YHe concluded by deals:62g his ' . deckled opposition to the clause. . 1 Lead HOLLAND complained that his agreement had been Violated, for he had sat down that the Noble and Learned Lord alaight explain, but instead of that, his Noble Friend near him , > /Ad explained for him. The argument of his Noble Friend, how . , doves, waltiot isnot to the purpose, and gave no explanation at all. Jae agreed, that the chock to which his Noble Friend adverted arena adman , one, but he understood the Noble and Learned' Lord to say something which amounted to this—that' Parliament ' ,1144 no authority to make any regulations in regard to the he re- OUT revenue of the Crown, that would bind the .asecessors of ' .41111 OWE. This .was most unconstitutional; and - he thought t . the doctrine might be attended' with mischievous consequences, ' *hes «Wag frMts a person in such a high station. . , Lord Rk.DESDALE spoke against the clause upon moth the MN - grentitlactha Lard ("keener and Lord Latiderdabi. The f Clause recited, that the grant was to be for life, in pursuance of a ' wawa m which could not be issued for any other thin a grant elating pleasure. Why did not Mr. Palmer submit his ease to a Ivry? Hielad formerly brought it tato a Court of Law, but in each a manner as made bins certain of being nonsuitod. If he r- ilaid weed ibis Bill in the Exchequer, an Issue would hive been di rocusi, And tae fait of the mdeence of the agreement goad; ,but lb* bath was, Mr. Palmer was afraid to submit his cue to a Jody. f • -Lad ERSKINZ said, that as he construed the clause, theta Wean° ineonsisteatcy in it. It would be a very difficult thing Istfr *id Mime this in such a disputa to bring it fairly before a Jury. k Was More proper that their Lordships should decide according go *hat/appeared to them to be just and equitable, upon due con aideratioa of all the circumstances. .' • Lied GROITLEY supported the clause. The LORD CHANCELLOR wished that Lord Somers had been here 'for he would'elther' have frightened thisl out of the Her d , or the Bill would bare frightened him o ft: • • ANINIslon thin took 'plan on the pee tentage clahif(-4 '... ar it, Sli.a-Aaainet It, 8--IVlajollty in favour of the clorie Ir. '... . A aecond division took place, on the' clause for granting the eireare -or empoo.—ror it, 31—Against it, 26—Majority fur the• deism, S. ' .. • -: •It Was understimid,kowever, that another BM should be paned, milijedling the grant to the Poperty-ta.t. Ibe Bill at length . :t tho le the Committee, was reported without any amendm sled ordered lobe read a third date next Timothy. - ,:, • .- : `..-. • ' - r ip : ib lisi rSagir !LSO! "rough a Committee. •• • 4., . 1 : 2 1-..,.. , .214‘ .• ... 4 • 11001044 r COMMONS. . relative to the ys MOltkiller ART istoYed some resolutions illsy en a et tlagnk was ordered to be debated nest Wednesday. The Repeat If the General inelosure Iffilvial brought up, and So third reading ordered for Molday. '''' '' On Mr. LONG'S motion it was onkred 'that thi House,,on Its rising, ti tat till Monday. ' Mr:RAMsES brouOt up twd Reports of the' Finance Com mittee, orblilF were or&red . to he on tbs Table. ' The Warehouse BIR, the Isle of Man Trash, Bill, and the Con solidated fond Bill, were read asecond time, a$ Ordered to be allaunttted on Monday.' s '.. .. ,s ~ • 714 Prot alb* Mak Bill mil? ondliked. ma the th ird raiding orderad for Mouthy: ."'" Mr. SINCLAIR moved formlieonditt of the corn, grain, dour, *unopened into England' barn forelgVparta. from 1792 ten • loss. Also for an account &tile g ins of go same ;oracles daring th e same time,: -01"derett " Me. PROUGHAM seggesfetthe *Piety of moving for an account of the fish IMported hsko Our tole*, from foreign parts , raid from England. leased lOCELY N reported, tilt the o seßegent bad directed .no *rtmlasiterto ba smut Llnabla dad also that the papers 1 r sythwing nto the ifeeello *deo Aker Hall be ISM before tilt i Nesse. •• 10 - 3 , t •• '' ' '• • • ' ~,fe. OlLEShisidgiluieswiyhtesit Session be had presented a i .. Petition frost tesit , ioWt Mintifaeturers, compt&ing of the t i suricaty of tharbillilidd eaniew ti hinceg the Fruit") prisoners. p Ift tiesaglismoassidikillite • eitlbh of Speaker, he bad corn nowaeggsa, ga tit the best method of transacting their gidelli he had abo applied it* 'feint i atit%Oist greit readiness td feitove th e t r ; . l rourld . bin lit die iaiiithie iiirdtWWildk' • -, _ ......_ ._...._._____ ___.. ... . PARLIifIifEN'FARt PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, JULY 10. Mr. Alderman Comas and others, from the Cairn ' . ... top the Landon Prison and Moor&ldsLeue 1111/8,1 i ere read a fink dme. 1 Mr. Lusa:no - roe and others,, brought up a message Conisis - tini, srain a ithet die Coviinerciairsaeliiiei gal I been seat, to their L,ordshipa by miscall!, and rrqul i fliat It tnight be returned to tie Caton tons, wilich wu . tire knd the Pin renamed accordingly. - -- - --- Ked. The Srgi** .. _ _is stiPeads 44 was read s seem. *Wad for Monday. . . . • Tbe SttrelkOuty Bill was committed.' 'Repast *Mee The Lottery 13fil ie r o Distiliation MA, sail j i t o . gpf.B i were road a ill .., time end passed. . • . The EaH of Lilt ERDAL.E stated, tbitt Vied obje several parts of she Highways Surmon!Aillor#Clte • AO* On Monaay. ' , . . , .. .. Iniolli, svOlf.b tufttheys should be appohlted to the ptisOns favorers also / they did not comply wi tircumstaneesdie„knew hot *bat farther to pr Mr. D.,GIDDY rose, but who Mforlued by the SPe"l mad was noguestion blibres the House. • • 'the N er o Manure Carriage Bill Was read a secptid tboae;a4 commit tad for, Mottday. I Ice Comthittee oa deeTransportation to Bonet !ay . _ea' leave to report to the Hoes and Mr. East' brought by the Mr. WHITBREAD moved, that an Address be preseemi fel the Prince Regent, /Br the last quarterly account of the King's bealtb.Ordered. On the question for the third aiding of the Irish Buster BIN ; it.was opposed at great length by Mr. Baknisil and Mr. Trench ; and supported by Mr: Herbert, (of Kerry), and Mr. W. Vole, who, however, agreed to expunge si veral clauses. The House Alvided For the third reading 67. Against it S 5. , A message froin,the Lords" *twilit their aesrnt to the Levant Trade Bill, the Wood and AstiesMU, the Soldiers' Wives Relief Bill, and the Lottery Bill. . AM ERICAN 141,7 i. Lord CASTLEREAGH moved the Order of the , ,Day,. to consider the Report of the Secret Coo: mittee. • Mr. BROUGHAM rose, not to oppose the Or deio. ,but to ask thi.Noble Lord respecting the recent news from America. It vas rumoured that the House •ot Representatives had moved a Resolution for war With England—he wished to know whether Govern -IDent had received.any official intelligence from their diplomatic agent in America? Much alarm had been excited by the report, and he was desirous of giving the Noble Lord an opportunity of making a satisfac tory statement on this subject. If war should take place, it was referable, in his opinion, to the decla ration published by the late Covernment in April. The SPEAKER informed the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, that it was not in order to clothe the ques tion with any debateable matter. Lord CA STLE REA G H was ready to give all the information in his power, though he couldnot answer for its entire accut ail. Government had' received advice from his Majesty's Minister in America, t h at a warlike motion, of which the precise nature was not, known, had passed the Howe of Representatives and was carried to the Upper,Hcum, where the consi derat'on of it was for some time delayed, and the ex act result not known* Mr. BROUGHAM asked if this information wax official ? Lord CASTLEREAGH replied' certainly, under the explanation already given. SECRET COMMITTEE. The Order of the Da) being then read fcr the con. sideration of the Report if the Secret Committee, Lord CASTLEREAGH rose and stated, that in calling the attention of-the House to this report, and in proposing to fund a Bill uyon it, he was anxious on the part of himself and his colleagues, to express regret, that it had been deemed necessary, at so late a period of an arduous session, to engage the seri ous considertaion of Parliament on this subject. Vo thing but a sense of duty could have induced them to adopt this proceeding. It had beet, hoped that the public peace might be kept by the ordinary course of I law, and that they might abstain from Paving re course to extraordinary expedients, without abandon.: ing their duty to their ccuntry. The delay that had occurred was an earnest of their anxious wish, that Parliament might separate, without being required' to offer.its interference. Some events concurred to' make the Ministers sanguine. The county of Not- 1 tingham had been restored to a state of comparative,l nay absolute tranquillity, by the legal proceedings in that district—and the late assizes at Chester had so salutary an influence, that it seemed the evil might be combated and repressed without aid from Parlia ment. It had, however, of late assumed such a cha racter of malignity, and of military combination, by regular organization, and an increased desire for arms, that his Majesty's Ministers conceived it would be a breach of duty to keep back from Parliament any longer. In this opinion they relied 'not entirely on their own judgment—but the Lieutenancy of the' West Riding of York made such representations of the progress of the evil, as chewed it could not be checked without further and more powerful assist ance. He (Lord C.) was sorry that the call of the House had been discharged, but Government had not, at that time,• the information which had since reached them. In considering this evil, it appeared to him better to look at the aspect which it now put on, than to consider minutely its origin and causes. At the same lime it was satisfactory to consider that much of the evil arose from causes merely temporary —the distressed state of the manufacturers, aggra vated by the price of provisions, and it should be ob served, that there was necessarily a degree of combi nation among manufacturers, which made it more easy for them, than for an equal number of agricul turists, to communicate and congregate—yet, what- , ever might be the cause of the evil, it had assumed a shape so formidable, having risen from levying war on a few master workmen, to roam in search of new cnemiesit was so malignant in its nature, so marked in its combinations, so bound by its abcminable oath, that the House would feel that it would be lulling the country into a false security, to tell it, that the existing laws could eradicate the mischief. Though in the Committee all the circumstances and particu lars had not been detailed, yet enough appeared to stew the enormous nature of the evil. An Honour able Member (Mr. Whitbread) had said, that the present laws Vire sufficient for the exigency, and had complained that he was not allowed to go into parole evidence in the Committee s He (Lord C.) had cet: taitely thought, .and.so expressed himself, that parole evidence would not be necessary for them to ',Ace that full, large view of the subject which would be required in Parliamentary transactions. It was evi dent that an evil existed, and it was necessary to pro vide a remedy. apprehended that Parliament might interfere for such a purpose, without inqiiiry, on the mere notoriety of the thing. In this case,' the matter was sufficiently notorious, and the notoriety was backed by the report of the Secret Committee. His Lordship then repeated, that Government had' received advice from the Lieutenants of the Counties' and especially of the West Riding of Yorkshire, that the present laws were not able to repress the evil— they received also the same information from a va riety of Magistrates in the different districts, with de positions on oath, iince'confirmed bftrials and Con victiona---and also from *rot intelligence, received from secret individuals connected with different combinations, .whose accounts were confirmed by the *subaecinent . 4etrona of those pribinations.— And, indeed, Ahonglit s there was a diffgeoce of opi nion is in Committee; On MU particular pointy !~i 'yet, ' the Material features of the ene, 'loge re. mo t . an essential difference. Such being the Lease, overnment would still not be juptifikel In ii Al* for extraordinary 'power ;, unless ' they, ,qduld shew, that Ore existing powers had. been; fairly exerted witholit success, and that on extcaorilt. ' naryoceasions extraordinary powers were necessary. The conduetofshe Magisttalptathe cristurbedAres trios heti beete bight) , meritottous, but it might hap *,l frog aTerent carcumstancer...thatthe iatrates agight not he.so efficient in.sqFps as o frif•• Mere were, 'hOwever, no taus o ff f a it o duty on . ~ .. 4 r e i d. which any eicusatinh cattle! lie roun .- A r siwon,g, therefor' e, that they had don e alraiit'conitlie.derte, it was evident they had net been* abt 16 cc* with the evil.' . Government had •been unremitting Fits exertions. Very early a large milititY forte wa4nt to the disturbed coonties: • besides this; that ebst, constitutional body, the Local Militia, had been einiiii; into service, and in every instance had perforthet t their duty with promptitude, zeal, and fiderepaei Government also had given extraordinary eneoiie, ragement to Gentlemen to form voluntary associii.; tions, assuring them, that peace could only be elfec tually restored by the interference of those who pos sessed propertyand interest within the county . and,. lately, aWatch and Ward Bill had been enacted, fee, the better maintenance of tranquillity in those die.! tricts. The Noble Lord then said, he should in this. ,place wish to call, the attention of she House to such precautionary measures as might tend to counteract the evil which to his mind appeared.to have arrive. to so alarming an height. The law .to be proposed / a would be such as wools! apply.immediately to these, particular districts, and he would wish to confine itsi operation to Melia limited term as might, in the wisdom of the House, be deemed barely necessary for its. purposes. The measure would include three points: the first was, more effectual proceedings with regard to the army— the second, to provide more se curely against tumultuous meetings—and the third, to give a, more extensive power to the Magistrates. I The proCeedings of the rioters had arrived at a very I alarming pitch, particularly in the artiele of seizing ;arms. Some arms bad boon . ;alcea sficarlpis the 1 month of Marcia, but at tbet . time tb,e instances were fevi ; they bad lately been We numerous, and-as the mischief seenied to be on,the increase, it hecame, the more necessary to guard 'against ii. The Magi strates had declared themselves incapable of recover ing arms, taken in the manner alluded to, with the powers with which they are at present invested by the law; and it would therefore be necessary to ex.' tend those powers. The first regulation he should propose on this head would therefore be, to invest the Magistrates with potver to seize not only_a l tlie that were stolen, but secreted arms also. Many Of those inhabitants in these tumultuous districts who were actually *ell disposed, had refused to, ive up their arms,unless they were forcibly taken from thtzn by the Magistrates, for fear they should beexpo4l to the resentment of the rioters ; he would therefore propose to give. a power to the Magistrates to take arms wherever they might be found, merely for the purpose of keepihg them in safe custody, to be re. delivered to their owners when an alteration in the 'circumstances of the country should warrant such. a restoration of their property. This was the outlinell 'of the measure, so far as related to arms. With te l l Bard to the next point, the tumultuous meetings, IA supposed the House would see the danger as. well as ' the impolicy of suffering a nu merous army to be ini: I sembled in the country, that wail' **raised under and by the Controul of the King. 'lii nanny places in Nottinghamshire, Lancashire, and, the 'yea Riding' of Yorkshire, where these tumultuous proceeding! prevailed, meetings -were held on a hill during ate time of divine service. As soon as such ah assent. blage was known, the Magistrates might proceed to meet them, might rend the riot act—and then their power was at an end ; for the tumultuous assemblage. might move off, and there would be an end of the business for that time. He thought, therefore, the Magistrates should have the power to disperse them; and in doing so, that such persons as were taken prisoners, should be deemed liable to be tried for a misdemeanour. The Magistrates should also have a power to arrest ell such persons as they found time tumultuously assembled, and to hold them to bail, so as to bring them to trial at the next Quarter Ses sions; and he would propose, that they should in all such cases be brought to trial immediately, and r t iog allowed the privilege of traversing the indictment ste they now were, by which means they might defee, their trial for two Sessions. Respecting the third: part, viz. the enlarging the powers of Magistrates l its the law and the circumstances of the country now stood, the Magistracy were not sufficiently numerous to do the duty in every part of asounty ; and an offender, by removing from the verge or confine of one county into another that adjoined it, was enabled to escape from the Magistrate who pursued him, and by that means to elude the law. He woald therefon propose that there should be a concurrent jurisdictioe between Magistrates of adjoining counties ; so that It Magistrate in one county having pursued an offender into another county, the limits of the county in which 'he committed the offence should not serve him as a plea for not being brought to justice in the county where he should be taken, though he had not in,that county actually offended against the law. If these disturbances should unhappily continue, such mea sures as these would, in his opinion, be absolutely necessary. It might, however, be hoped that from the spring which had lately been given 'to oni•ariatiul • facturers, and from the prospect of an abundant harvest, these disturbances might cease. It was nor ,his wish to resort to any measures farther thaninight . he absolutely necessary for the peace and security of the country. If the Parliament would give those enlarged powers to the Magistrates, he thought much rwould accrue from it. These deluded and un mrdnate men had, on all occasions, shewn great respect to the judgment of Parliament, and he hoped they would now bow to that opinion they had before i done. It was the unanimous opmion of his 'Majesty's Ministers, that measures of the nature he had de-1 scribed were absolutely necessary ; and having thus explained their nature; and the extent to which theyl were meant to go, he would not detain the Mire longer at present, but would read the Motion wtth• which he intended to_conclude. His .Idirdiship thee moved-- ~ •', se . 64 That lean be given to bring In a Illiiitliirefert,.. ; th e °E.lbe public Pi_acct Al*: W. WNW easiesers of the Masteresse in the disturbed Milltitel Mr' WH/TBREATO term }tea spe ec h Sy Ov a tang to the reason given by the Noble Lord, Est ; having discharged the order for the call of the Fls ol i only a day or two bef ore h e gave notice of the coo municatlon which led to t h e measures he pro 1 , - bring forward at the present moment. Leav' n gt 1; aside, he would, . h oweve r , proceed to c •i; "tluistroit ;tie% which was the disturbed state of to country. The• Noble Lord thought it most tr dvs d , • Able to look only at t h e s t a t e o f t h e country, oak% a#stesting to t,he • cause which placed it in that stye ; , on the contrary, he (M r . Whi t b read) was of oli jkik, that thonouse should fir st cons i der theca ao,- allstibeitioOk to what. was the state of the country, I , , elleptesent motnent. He begged the House to , a n p o ret Te rr sttrhontig been ~ecllect, ti,iit ,since the time ihis matter had &rob: i r fro ectn th uit e cid cou ed ntr us y . , th wh eir it n h o l t ra ice s and e elusive evidence, that t he dis tur b ances in 41 timeiptdig no !neaps inereaaled. For hisqlsec it . , ii he felt st his duty to declare, he was by no medusa; eisfied.:with thipresent triode of proceeding. -MU I nn ut l ite .lit.e 4 U.*. stnative of tlinevidence laid before theca e , mitts*, his mind was • by no means satisfi e d w i t h ill had: tlieaor the7 4 th ett io4 dea tio v ft on o re i t it t e t s h s e es e , rocore . .. se n over4uled,..tliough he hadin one instance sae out of seventeen, and in another nine out of ten, i favour of his ',pivotal. The -Noble Lord had so l o tithe House, that there was an army esistiog I s , . eountry_not raised by-ilts icing, nor at all ?WI NN , f lee • his controul. }fie caned- 'upon the Noble jag a 'thew on wirat4toiind lie tat•st.ited such an alai I s 'exist. He &mod ,positively that such was ibe as —nay, solTsr lima an army, Le would andenake i s Any therosvas no evidente of there being a reginies ti not Itsgropany.—nay,.not. even. Jialf a compe l , 4 , such persona as the .Noble Lied - had so ernih. t u el b -ilesceUd. Ile reef flrwli of the case win ; chitA ;'had st 'very extentive 'ftianufacturittg populates brought from rink of enoloyment,istio a scee.nitle Most deplorable distress, out of which dreadfalote all those assemblies had arisen. The evirker, i t , fare' the Conimittee-cletrly and fully sheweshiss Illeic unhappy men lask.sio-loatiers—that dierisi no settled plans nor any means - whatever of mai `ttituid any standard again* the rpovetnment of* !gib& Let the' Rosqe . g_Tri - ; and dispisesi t v :list ale simple questroft.7-Whete did it originate l. Mho answer was plaiss-w.ia•Nottinghanz : lad thee, .though it had beets tarried-to a very great mess, S a rras now well ktio,"tkibilitheplast was at plot, - ftft!l i tad fox soy* Noe ,beit niferfectly quiet. It sat lqu 7 ilia inevini.tbacist this very Nottiagber men have been brought to trial according to.thei/ iliTaiirid eiial"fisledlatr.Of the land—that on tank they havojbeeti eittreicted, and have ezpr*, by their lives, theiiiftenies, against the law. . lti it these cases, the i'AbliAlteil .I'iw,§f theland found thtyOtighli i - -.- let:ily adeqice to * all* porposca for 'obtains waisfeamed.. With respect to . the Watch and Wardf-Bill, which sae .* katrOdkeli feil , .I. t. : ft . i4 . .40 la i ig,s toe. 4 . INA. '' able f 4 Willa notoetraile toe racf.was, mint bad•rever,,cin any occasios,tesa called Into execiition. Under tkruni I„ . gs wollrelltr - laTrifF.Tor :.stew, Taws is!'ee tie old onesibaci rioobeep tried 1: He. itOsid-nnt, Hulk fotte;aiteito anyttart of the proposition, except thl (hotter pert of it:M.4We io lie concustentjurisdictit . g. oftlte Maglitritei in adj'ornlng counties. ale drami 1 that at rna 4,4 bstatigitseti to toeamounuerated bytiv Noble - lad i.ifttitte r however, were the fact, it oil :hewed that Magisgates, under the eitistieg lien were filLy ehibled to gc't ai ; tl;eni. He had bese.teids there:Was a greatdepot of arms iis .a *nod. 11 it were so, and the Magistrates knew of it, thew could be no doubt, but; aided by the military, and ander tbe .... guidance of the law as it how -'- • might * tarn possession of the whole. adverted the hurtling. of West Horton Mi shewed '' the persons who had been guilty been tried, convicted, and pal lives for having offended against their country. What occasion was 'new laws ? In the affair of Dean 'very large mob who assembled blacked, and among them Were ' men who blacked their faces in sent there as spies, and to act those who might afterwards be t sembling ; and yet in this very sr was the leader, and whose name his face blacked. One of these 'the effervescence of his zeal, p that they should go and burn s which one of the mob resoloi and said, that by so doing they • nocent and helpless persons ; ti plied, no matter, so we carry on —Here were men employed as ' citing the multitude to more acts of violence ; and for all these House was applied to for the pur vemment with new laws, and t traordinaiy powers hitherto um tution. , lt was here the. Noble those extraordinary powers, wit placidity, and softness, which he to assume : but the House, would, ,lest that the ,Noble Lord had her Oersted in measures of a similar they should also consider that ;160'S forming the Government, iii those transactions. Tht y - Xerd Cmciden was a Member 'tration ; and"that during his dful scenes were eihibnod, as Ilion of them agonised and revolted 6 a 'Englishmen merely co is a rt late IdOndemned the systepi, AiP 'were many instances in which arms, had courageously and ' themselves and their property, t ruin and devastation; and :.yet, *m, you would deprive those of a prc'posed by tlat Noble Lord. 4e lai r s. in o t t i l le th ir ese ow g n defence, roundstie and ing supported hirliftmejr. it w s s s , them was any fluid to fustier and SOW tem. One reason for the discouterfteloi„ - w: l ,_ ,ilidiill lie attribbted to the dPiriess'acOemsli Oilers io Coluial ; and ;loft thou !bit. sireii likely to tic . set to . wed, Ind *at -..silli prospect of a plentiful tarrestt he saw isia u 7 3: N • • • ' - Itor th th'r, Ixta by th il e li tq ls ob li)ee le Lor a l y * dip' treasures heLperoarrdmg ti t to I der for the call of the Ho ing he gave notice of the co Ira eat all et, proceed toeonsider ik * ws as the disturbed state of ti ll tu g ord tbottght it most Moist, be tate of the country, with bre hich placed it in that nate, s p (4r. Whitbread) was of cif old first cons id er t h e as the state of the country ie begged the House to sp ne this matter had &tabs* trice, no report had been., _ was a pretty strong andqpb .he diSturbanses is ;44 scre,aaed. Fee Isis con can ' ate, he was by no means% d u node of proceeding. -$ tvidence laid before thee* Aso means satisfied with roared in the Committal s is of.wheesses, but he . 40 he had:ist one ins's/Kesel' another nine out of ten, i The -Noble Lord had soli tit was an army existing as da I , nor at all lidi tir a- 'Upon the Nt , ble lard u di !ta'etstated such an such apri that such was ibt cas gn rrny, Le would undertake to cot e of there being a tegitnesti even-half a comPssf 4 ate le Lord - had so soiihtlititk nr , o f the case was ; that sir In :manufacturing populatics, isj)loyment,intoo state4th out of which dreadhlass d arisen. The evidence 10. !AO) , an' fully shel'etihs V' kaders--that shortly r means - whatever of algid An* the rpovernment of,* coorfi lad dispas!icessi, _Wh ew did it origusawi. N I: 42 , Nouinghain : and dott if d-tis a very gnat excess it Fri bsi die place was at pup sbc beisaiperfectly quiet. it sax /1( l aci a this very Nottiagbe to trial according lo.lbtzsa -L - " military, and unGer Mr p stood, they might 06 t .He then adverted to i Mill, and sheaved 1141 a Ity of that offenCeing i aid the forfeit of ints 1 ist the violated lawn, I was there, therefore, fat, I )ean Moor, there ins I bled with their tam 1 re ten Local !dirt,r i i a similar way,6 o o, . 1 t as witnesses teal; taken up for its at r meeting, the marimba ne was Hurst, hadlte e Local Militiamen, it proposed, it scrod* a the workhouse r-te ,olutely t,bjecned, alti y would burn many is. to which the other re. on the g rind . misciiid is spies, abettinf e = • daring and these acts together, ti purpose of arming cot to invest them witill . . mknown to the ~.' e I.nrd had spr.gitt with all that . In . ' . i he knew so . wel. vould, he howl. d been i nt imately . .1.0 ilar nature in l! e r t .: t there were .: j = :, nho were would. not laid r of tlfe rektillt 4er is wit IA Ireland, "a I, as that.* br* revolted • tilt, .ii,i, ' t 'plate in idek ,-; ~ ;lain fur ii .... ch persons, 14. • d • eirectuallY. ~:' . ~ , and , saved 'bota. : .- r ;t , by *Proilc.i i o r . , of arms whotolu and in soppn!!, should oppose.Pl g • As to theti94 ras'eldiiitioui.tialll w .......11 ...srusetttis.