Star. — London, England, 1829-03-13 00:00:00

I ~'.. Ninth! , (Mr. Gilman, he abOuld lay that, whatever oche disaeovhd of Dr. Tram or any other Catholic priest. might be, there was'no doubt of the fact of the teblication of whet was o•ivallp - called the Rhemish Testament—thearp=and, having cut his eye over it, be could assert that the extract from it contained in the placard lead by the Honmsrable Mediber for Dublin was a fair specimen of the opinions of the Catholic church with respect to 'our Protestant church—(Hear). Wheo.be observed that for a long time the most active and artfulattempts were made to deceive the people of England with respect to the Catholic Claims, he would himself beat a part of the burthen of did busing the public mind—(Hear). He, for one, would not be put . down by the menaces of the.t.flonouisblo Member for Dublin. or of any other porton, in or out of that House, or &tare's from the performance of his duty in defend ing the Tights of the Protestant people—(Cheers). He was sorry to see attempts Made in that House to put 4 4WD the . eights of the penpie--(Miset cheers end cries *Vs' No. no"). He would repeat his Ovoids, fOr he had not seen a single petition presented to that House against the Catholic Claims without attempts being made by the friends of the Catholics to impuwthe-motives of the petitioners-'-(Hear. hear). But neither he, nor those who thought with him, were •to be deterred from, the perfoi mance of their duty, notwithstanding the majority 'against them—(Hear). There was, he admitted, a ma jority of one hundred and eighty-eight; but' (said the Hon. Member) we are not beaten; and, please GOO. we shall fight to the last—(Loud cheering). Sir J. BRYDGES followed on the same side. The Hon. Bar' stet said that he would fearlessly, and con scientiously do his duty whatever might be the majority against non. II the MC114310 G utoceio r l.O•J is, Oa 170itillna should be carried. he was pisfectly • satisfied that the ttution would be totally subverted. With rep , cc to. placards. he should trust his own film belief that all those of a violeir and inflammatory nature were put forward by the Hon. Member's (Mr. Grattan) own party—(Hear, hear). Mr.W.ILLACE defended the practice of scrutinising Petitions, some of which. he said, had been gotten up by means that de creed exposure. Were the mains icy al the persons who petitioned the House on the que.tion competent to forma judgment on it? In fact, it was most dangerous to icier abstract questions of policy to 'the multitude; it would be worse than the worst mea sure oftetoim—a rose even than universal suffrage. Mr, LEUH KECK would admit that the H. use had passed many a weary hour in receiving Petitions, but regretted that those documents were not crewed in a More constitutional manner on discussion.. He could 1114411 e the House that their proceedings on this mo mentous question were watched by the public with the greatest anziety. It had been complained in a letter to him by ODD a his constituents, that the Petitions coating from that portion of the people opposed to the Catholic Claims were received in that House with in.i. dams censures and unfounded obloquy. He entreated the House to pause and consider what must be the feel ing of thopublictuwards the House if they learn that their Petitions continue to be so unfavourably received, to unconstitutiUnally treated. Though much time Misfic be nett:smelly occupied in receiving the Petitions of the people, he hoped the House would, in future, teat them in a spirit mote constitutional than that which had been lately displayed by. Honourable Mem bers—(Cfieers • Mr. ft. COt.BORNE denied that the petitions were iecpteperly treated by the llowo. In fact, there never ots* time when mote petitions were received an d mote et isely attended to. It would however, pet hap', be the better plan not to cavil at petitions in general, because iotne might have been improperly got up, as it cu old riot be denied that petitions had been impro perly repined on both sides of the question. . Captain mumn expressed his thanks to the Hon. ' Member who woke last for the spirit of forbearance that he had teconinicnded to the House in reference to . the discussion of petitions. He had ever opposed Ca tholic Eniancspotion, and he should continue to oppose it in the honest discharge of what be felt to be his duty to himself and his country. As to the late change of • that had taken place in the minds to some Gen tlemen. he could not but express his decided disappro bati"n of it. They appeared to have turned round at the beck of a finger held up by a single individual.— That was a weathercock system which would never in &tenet him. Mr. MUNDY, on the part of himself and his friends,disclaimed any knowledge or sitnetion of the placards, and of all other inflam matory means that might have been used to obtain signatures; but eves on this point it should be remembered that placards were ex hibited on both sides of the question. Mr. ABERCROMBY disclaimed all intention of imputing the sanction of the placards in question to the Hon. Member or his Mends. Sir C. H ASTINGS, in referent., to the sesitilnent stated to have been uttered by a person to the Hon. Member for Hull, declared that io such a feeling neither he (Sir C. IL) nor the inhabitants of the town of Leiceste4 participated. Mr. MUNDY declared his opinion that the petition expressed the *piston of the majority of the eerie!, of ltai6j. The Hm. Member proceeded to present five other Petitions from parishes in Derby, egainat Conces4oos to the Catholics. Mr. BROM PTON presented two Petitions in favour of the Ca. &one Claims—one from the Mayor and Burgesses.of the borough of Derby, in Common Council assembled, eigned by the common seal; the other from the' Magistrrtes, !tankers, Merchants. Mann. foetuses, and other inhabitants of the boniest of Derby. The Huo. blember remarked, th it be bad supported the Catholic Question, end would continue to support it. He however, considered the Catholic Cern complete bar to iniprOwilnent, had the diffusion of knowkdie In !reined. Lord 0. CAVENURiIi presented a Petition from a pariah In Derby to favour of Emancipation. Mr, ft. Tit !IVOR preseutrd a reddest from the parish of Aber. pilly, to Carniarthessalure, agAost the Catholic CWm., and a sand. tar obe from another parish in the same county. Sir W. HEATHCOTEspresrated PetitirMa nom Beslngstoke, and three other places. &salmi Costeeseies.'. Slr J. ASTLEY presented similar Pothirma txoot Wietwied and another place. Mr. CA LCRA FT brought up the annual Report el the National Vaccine Establishment; and presented a Petition in favour et Emancipation from Protestaut Dissenters of Wsrebarn. Mr. COKE presented a Partition from the Clergy of the Diocese Norwich in favour of the Catholic Claims. The general feeling of the county of Norfolk was stated by the Hon. Member to be decidedly favourable to Catholic Ematicipation, a proof of which xiilikt be seen in the fact that the two. Members for Nuitolk, nun ly, himself and his Hon. Colleague, .being friends to the Ca tholic carte, bad been returned by the county. Mr. WODEHOUSR supported the prayer of the Petition. • • Bic R. HERON expressed his pleasure at seeing such a Petition foes the clergy._ Cohort SI UTHORPE preowned a Petition against the Catholic Oakes, sired by every Inhabitant of North Star. Mr. T.Y MTN preowned a Petition, praying for the repeal of the planes mid Window Tax, frost the borough of Reidy/awn SW H. J. HOPE presented Paktum from Kirendbright ; from a Perth la the meaty of Deffifries; and from another place, against coneemitm to the Catholic. Loed F. 00WKR prekratel a Petition from a borough in the meaty of Sutherland against Rmastelpatioa ; and one from the lifteatas of the Royal Canal la Lelana in favour of it. The Nom Mr. CAULFIELD presented four Petitions Eat Parishes In the minty of Armagh in favour of concession. • The Hem Mr. KING presented twenty nine Padden. Awn dm Cash Alm of the away and city of ark; from Bantry, Castietown Roche. Matioans, Cove, and other places In the county. of Cork, rills' fee Encipation. Led ALT ma HORP presented Petitions from Liseybborcaseh, In Me emery of Lamar, and other places, in favour of Cattle& Momelpetioa. • Mr. C. D. 0. JELPHSON presented two -Petitions, one from the *man Whelk iebabitents of tke town 4 Mallow, and the i other from the Boman Celli'Bs inhablatee of the parish of Wilke dime: Ts the ermecy of Cods, Is Imo, of the Roman Catholic Belief nip. The Hon.. Member MOOS the conduct albs MA Heenan tublike, and; oboe tht it was no weeder that the persons professing this ter att lafere Wean when they were them ' out of socistylsotb this and in Ireland, After a few wallet/ems Mr. . GRATTAN the petidmis were ordered ro He on the table and be printed. Lord ELIOT preseuesd Padden. from the Hundred. of East snd West Low. in Cuomo*, against Wanandpades. Mr. H. MAXWELL preasoisd thirty-two Petitions against any further concoodass to the Roman Catholics, amongst which were petitions from the parish of St Ann Shanties, in the city of Cork ; from Cove and Newmarket, in the county of Cork ; from Lisburn, In the twenty of Marini ; from Virus% in the county of Wes ford; from ten parishes In the county of Donegal; from the Con gregation of Baptists of Harrow-on-the.HM; from Dumbarton; from Glasgow; from the Dissenting Member's( Sr. Bartholomew's Chapel, in the City of Laskin; from Bath; from several parishes in the county of Meath, kr.. Mr. G. 0. MOOBR presented a similar Petition from the Dean and Chapter of the Cathedral of St.Patriciee, Dublin, and observed that the petition was unanimously agreed to st one of the fullest Chapters ever held, which was regularly convened. Colonel BAILLIE presented sic Petition from Holderse... Rokeby, and ether places in Yorkshire, in favour of the Roman Catholic Relief BBL He stated that the petitions were signed by persons of all raglan tiommoooolos, and that the population of that part of the earalry Veils wbeito they'came were disposed to leave the settlement of this wedeln to the Government. He ad mined that the %Woos were net very numerously signed, be cause they came from places thinly inhabited; but he believed they were respectably signed. Mr. TRANT presented a Petition from the Congregation of Baptists assembled at Limehouse against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics. Mr. P. MACQUERN presented Petititins front - Colnewortb, Grislry, and from fuer other parishes in the county of Bedford, and from the Protestant Dissenters of Hitching, against any fur ther concessions to the Roman Catholics. - - Mr. DUGDALEpresented similar Petitions from the Mayor and Corporation of Stratford-span-Avon, and from &woo CulSeld. Mr. MACNAGHTEN presented similar Petitions from Carey and from Kilconeray, in the county of Arnim. Mr. SCOTT presented a Petition irons Seise against nor e.. thee concessieas to the was Catholics. A mural HARVEY said, that,, in addition to the great number of petitions already presented from the county r f Essex, he had now seven other petitions to present against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics. His Hon. Freud (Sir Hens y Smyth) presented ten petitions from different parts of the connty'of Essex against further concessions last night, and in the early p.m of the present evening bis Hon. Friend the other Member for Essex, had presented three Petitions. Hr (Sr' E Has vey) had just returned from the Assizes, .nd hadan opportunity of learning the opinion entertained on the subject under discussion amongst the most respectable and wealthy inhabitants of the county of Essex. He could assure the House that very generally, and with few excep tions, the inhabitantspf the county he had the honour of representing were decidedly opposed to the Bill now in progress, and that they conceived the proposed copeck .ions were extremely dangerous to the Established Church and Institutions, as at present constituted. The tientlemen of the county of Essex, too, he could assure the House, were equally unanimous and decided in their opinion as to the conduct of the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Home Department, who had lately departed from that line of proceeding on this subject which he had so long avowed, and which was so congenial to the feelings of the country, and which he had so consistently supported for many years.— The country now felt at a loss to conceive. boa ever, upon what principles of accommodation or convenience the Right Honourable Gentleman consented to belong to a Government which, by advising his Majesty to assent to the admission of It.nian Catholics to the Le gislature, had taken such a decided pan in forwarding a nseassure which he (Sir E. Harvey) believed would lead to the destruction of the Constitution—(Hear). He regretted that the persons now in the confidence of bis Majesty were not more remarkable for. their political consistency. This ground be knew bad been so beaten and so much traversed, that he should not trespass on the House with any further observations. The Hon. Baronet then presented Petitions from Rochfort. Cold horton, and' See oti,er places in the county of Essex, against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics. Mr. LENNARD was sorry that the Hoo.Member for Essex had taker, upon himselt to represent the gentry of Es as to be decidedly averse to the propose.! mea sure. The most . extraordinary pains were taken to get up anti-Catholic Petitions in Essex ; and in almost every parish the Churchwardens and Clergymen were put in requisition. He regretted that the Honourable and Gallant Admiral should have thought it necessary to take the decided part he had taken on this subject in the absence of the other Member for Essex. Mr. LESTER said be bad that day received slitter from Chelmsford, and that he understood the and-Catholic feeling which existed in that part of the country was greatly dindoished. Sir E. HARVEY said, be had stated what, in his opinion, was the feeling of the county he represented on this occasion. As to the course be bad adopted. be beded to say that he was only responsible to his own mind, and to his coostkuents, for his political canduct—(Hear, hear). Mr. WODEHOOSE presented Petitions from Walsineham, from Old Wahiligham, and from Moulton, in the county of Norfolk, against any further concessions to the Roman A:echo/ice. The Hon. Member said that the petitions were signed by two Magistrates, and were otherwise most respectably signed. He believed they , not only expressed the sentiments of the petitioners but of many others. He regretted, however, that be (Mr. Wosiehome) could not concur with the petitiouets. Mr.MA RSH A LL presented a Peddon from Tadeaster, in favour et the removal of the disabilities bearing on the Roman Catholics. Mr. O'NEILL presented three Petitions against any further concessions to the Roman Catholics from Hull. —The &dolma were severally brought up. and ordered to be printed. Mr. D. W. HARVEY said it was his intention, to presenting a Petition, to take an opportunity to prove a statement which he made on a former evening with respect to the conduct of the Hoe. Member fur Limerick, on a motion introduced some years ago on the subject of the Irish Church Establishment. As the Hen. Mem bet (Mr. S. Rice) was slut now is the House, he (Mr. Harvey) would defer soaking .ny obseribitions on the subject wen a future opportunity. The Hon. Member then gave nodes that to.morrow be would move for Returns connected wish the Courts et Law at Westminster. end with the Court of Chancery. Mr. lIONCE presented a Petition from Thomas Flanagan, praying that the Bill respecting Charities, then before the House, might be extended to Ireland. The same Hon. Member presented a et-deice from the urn. iadividual, praying that the law tavola use p.tents also extended to Ireland. Liird A LTIIORP moved for an Account of the Money paid and payable to the Bank of • England foe the snaustement.of the Public Debt during the year Ilia; also an Account of the Balances of Public Money in the bands oldie Bank el England on account of Government. specifying the amount of the same which Ike In Eschwiecr Bills; likewise the Amount et Unclaimed Dividends and Lottery Tickets; and the Charges ea the Management of South Sea Stoik. An Account also of the Amount of Advances made by the Rink of England to the Government whether on & i chequer Bills, Victualling Bills, or Navy Bile , fr o m the Sala February. 18211. to the sth of February, lint 9; and a Return of the Number of Breach Banks established under the 7th of Gee. IV. with the names of the places where, and the dates whoa, they were established.— Agreed to. Mr. LEN NA ItD postponed his motion reepeedog the Law of Paten to the 3d of April. JUVIMILIi OFIRNDitf. Mr. E. DA VEN emu . rose to move for leave to bring in a Bill to mend the power of Summary Cull.lClioo to certain Cale* • f Juvenile Offenders guilty of Petty Larceny. The Hon. Manner. alter dwelling at some li•ngth upon the crowded state of the gaols, and the re I of which she Bill which he proposed to hitroduce would afford, shouki it pass into a law, made a few obser Ta ttoos on thaltutility of classi6e4tion, as not at all cal culated to promote the object of real moral improve• _scent—an object which user be lost sight of. lie concluded by stating that his object was to propose th it two or more magistrates should have the oaeer. ~f taking cognisance of offences committed by persons of, a certain age--that he would leave to the House--say sweep years old. He would propose that.they should possess discretionary limited power of il.flicting a punishment by short imprisonment. He th ught shat the inttantaneous infliction of the punishment was ,of the highest importance in such cases, as inspi•ing a more wholesome terror than could be effected by chastisement intrinsically more severe. The increase of crime was regularly concomitant upon the increase of poverty; and therefore for that, as. well as for other reasons, they ought to make punishments as lenient as was consistent with an effectual prevention of crime. The H In. Member then moved for leave to bring in a Bill in conformity with the above statement. Mr. Secretary PEEL agreed with the Hon. M totter chat the subject was one deserving the most sea ins consideration. He was aware that great evil arose from the condition in which juvenile offenders were left when remaining in confinement to abide their trial; at the same time that the power of ,ummary conv.ction being given to two Magistrates in cases to be determined only by the age of t e offender, and not upon the moral culpability, would, in his opinion, be attended 0 ith much disadvantage. For some time past he had had under consideration a Bill for regulating the qualifications and jorisdicti n of Magi Ar ates. When that came before the House the subjects introduced by the Hon. Member would come before them under more fat ourable cir cumstances. In the meantime he (Mr. Peel) had no objection to acquiesce in the Bill being brought in. He did not say he would support it, but he would then consent to the introduction of it. M. LOCKHART wi.htd to enenn•age the continu ance of the u e of Juries, and in the cases contem,.lated by the proposed Bill he would have a Jury ready in at.. 'cadence, so that any person accusi-a moot nave Inc benefit of the trial by Jury, +liquid they desire it. Sir T. BARING agreed to the pr nciple of the Bill, but would wait for its being printed before he pro nounced an opinion upon the details. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that if a particular law were enacted for juvenile offenders, the most atrocious offences would be committed through the agency children. However, he thought it unnecessary to trou• ble the House further upon the subject, for at the pre sent moment he scarcely hoped that any attention would be given to the subject while the great question which then agitated the empire remained unsettled. In addition to the Bill on the subj..ct of the Magistracy, which he intended to introduce, he also intended tr, bring forward a Bill f unded on the Report of the Committee appointed to inquire into the state of the police. On the subject of the prisons he would adJ cue observation, 'het they were not built at the caper's, of the Government, but were always erected by the Local Authorities. Afters few words been Sir Trouts VIMIKASTLe • Mr. DAVBN PORT replied, tie isestion was pc, sad ills Bill allowed to be brought in. ASATOMT. Mr. WARBURTON entreated the House to bear with I him while he called its atsention to a subject which he now considered of the utmost importance—he meant the supply of subjects for anatomical dissection. He 1 hoped that the report of the Committee appointed last I year had satisfied the Members of that House that. the evils complained of, wising from the present state of ' the law upon the subject, were ro t wholly imaginary. I The first point which the Committee had th , ,ught it necessary to establish by evidence was, that there was an actual necessity, if the science of anatomy were pursued, that a moderate number of subjects for di.. section should be supplied. It had been strongly urged by correspondents in some of the public papers that the practice of dissecting for anatomical purposes was quite unnecessary and ought to be entirely abandoned. He confessed that be very much doubted the sincerity of the individuals who put forth such statements to the world, for he would ask them if they were attacked by severe and dangerous illness, whetter they ' , multi not immediately seek the advice of tho s e very Phy• sicians Mho bad obtained their skill, and coniesiient eminence, from that identical practice which they pros fessed to detest, and consider unnecessary? The Com mittee reported as the result of their 'ingnittei that, as the law now stood, the. science of anatomy must rapidly sink into decay,as the difficulLy of obtaining sub jects was so great that the students were themselves obliged to have recourse to the practice of estimation, in order to attain such a knowledge of anatomy as was oecessary to render them capable of practising on the human frame. Independently of this, if some alteration were not made in the law upon this subject, the'trade in human bodies, which it appeared led to the commission of so many other crimes, could never be a ffecluelly put an cod to. In the Bill, which he had the honour of submitting to the House, he did not intend to im• pose any penalties or prohibitions; his wish was that legality should be given in certain cases to practical. an itomy. He proposed, therefore, that anatomy should be considered lawful, if practised either in those cities or towns which have Universities or Corporations ha , jag . the power 40)10er:bog medical preferment or degrees, or in those cities or towns which have Colleges est..— Wished for the instruction of not less than fifty students.' This would extend the practice of dissection to many those larger towns where every means was afforded for: study ing with advantage. those places proper per-i sons should be allowed to practice and to teach, end byl that means many important advantages he thought' might be gained. The greatest difficulty which arose in the consideration of the matter was the source fro* whence the supply of subjects which would hesequised by the teacher of anatomy should be derived. ' 1 1;4. dig investigation which the Committee had made oponithii point, they had made many inquiries as to the practice sir foreign countries, and the measure which he now proposed to introduce would, in its nature, be very nearly allied to the practice which had for some time existed at Paris. If no supply was to be derived by legal or akimbo. sited means (and he was convinced that every one would say that no necessity could warrant a violatio9 of the sanctity of the tomb) recourse must be had to the public institutions; and it they would not afford a supply, the practice of dissection must be put an end to altogethes i or else remain in precisely the same state that it did now. What he would recommend, therefore,. was this's . that it should be lawful for the overseers and managers , of the poor hoasea or workhouses,lor.the Governors of prisons and the Governors of hospitals, to giee up to any physician who may be a teacher of anatomy, for the purposes of dissection, the bodies of those persons who might not be claimed within a specified titne by any friend or relative. He was fully aware, in reconimendbig such p measure, of all the objections which might, and' wiltilfi probably, be made against it. It might be said that such a course would give rise to many unpleasantraes, and that much unfairness may be practised in the disposi, tion of bodies, which, if proper notice were given, might probably be claimed. But be would ask them who objected to the measure be proposed, trom'phat, other sources than the public institutions could setbActs be obtained? He begged &ow who were must ititeteiied ‘tbarall in the ste.ject. viz. the poor and middle classes to re. member how deeply they were indebted to the Faculty for the uniform attention and kindness they receised tenon the members (do, and not to allow themselves np the ground of any e.r.meous feeling, to raise objections to measiite which, in the end. mast prove beneficial to them Let them consider wh it had occurred in the city of Edinburgh. and let th m attribute it to what he attn. buteJ it, viz. to the itite..se Jest. e in which the inhak. tants old alto ed them-elves to be tit I away with by their feeling.. The idea that the rives of the tomb were denied to uf our tellow.creatures was naturally re . Waive tir feeling.,mid lie.there'ore,prop.ised in the Bill o high he now laid hair e the House, that, alter ti l e pusposes of a ..ction were completed, the remains should be fly interred according to the custom o f She couiorkin which t' e person had expired. H e said acconglig to the custom of the emitter', because, in Scotland. a different torus of burial was observed than in chi . He should not have carted so fully into this subject, nor have sietained the fir use so long upon it, had he out felt that it was of the greate-t importance to the iaculty, against o hoot imputations had been made, charging them with being con:ederates with the worst and most brutal of morde , ers. In coneus on he begged 'to mote "tor leave to bring in a Bill to legalize and regulate the sop s ly .übjects for anatcor y. Mi. LEYCES MR, in rising to second the motion, observed, toes the pract ce of eclat ...Mon, which had hitherto been resorted to in order to k rp up tie supply of subjects for anatomical purpo.es, was alike too:long to the dead and offensive to the living, and was t h e means of raising up a crew of the wort and most abandoned characters. But, bad a► that prlctice oar, it could not be prevented uniess a substito e were found. Toot substitute could a10,.e be tootid in the pteilie ultimo. It could not be dente.' that the stu.ly of aim. so.oo wa s aoseintely nrcesri to the public good. IL OA. the lamp vs es.iat ••• :iloar n pod the p at h to skill. It showed the when, the whose, and the how —gave firmness of reeve and dexterity in ope. ra inn—it shortened the internal suffering under the kitife*-- it ti iumpheJ over die sse, and robbed death of his prey—(Heat, hear). Exhumation, therefore, in his opinion, ought nil to be preventet unless a sub. stitute were found. That substitute, he insi ted, had happily been discovered, and was :et forth in the Bill proposed by his Hon. Friend. I; was the mode ad pied in foreign countries, where exhumation was unheard of—it was a mode which could not be offensive to the living, since the subjects operated upon would be those who had no Itiends to claim their remains; and it was a mode which could not be insulting to the den t, since all that remained afer distec ion would et with a decent and Christi in burial. It woul.:, indeed, be a melancholy sattsfattion to those whose hest moments-received consolation from the public cha. tities to know that they would be able after death, in some measure, to repay the debt they oreJ to those who administered condi:it to them outing the last stage of their existence. He hoped. thee*, e, th it the House would accede to the pcopositioo now advanied, as a measure which aortld ultimately lead to good. On the notion twine put, Mr. A.VILLIERS took the opportunity of expressing his lull concurrence in the proposed measure; he thought it was one which would effectually protect those private feelings which had so frequently been violated, by abolishing the practice of exhumation. If this Bill should pass, the traffic inhuman bodies would inevitably be put an end to, and a sufficient supply would he obtained without it, and the Legislature would thus, by depriving crime of its market, relieve hums. nity from the stain which had been cast upon it by the recent events at .Edinbuigh. This had been well style I a measure of charity, for it was the poor who would reap the great benefit of it. The LORD ADVOCATE said that nothing could be more distressing than the situation in which the Professor of Anatomy was placed. It was admitted that a supply of subjects was absolutely necessary tut hint to inlinct his pupils in the surgical art; but the law made him liable to be brought before a Ma. gistrate for having a subject in his possession. They were besides obliged to have intercourse with indi. viduals of the most depraved characters, who were capable of any, atrocity. The safety of life was ma terially involved in the present question—(Helo hear). He bad been concerned for smile months past in the investigationuf a transaction conn.cted with the subject--(Heat). The result of his inquiries was, that it was absolutely essential for the prevention of crime to adopt some such measure as the present. It was possible that the practice, to which he need not mote particularly allude, still existed, and he leered that it would extend unless Means were taken to prevent it. The inofortune of the discliisures, which it was impossible to prevent, which had token place lately, was, that it brought under the view of those who a e e likely woke advantage of the knowledge the facility with which the crime might be committed, wichoutthe possibility of did covey, that which in other cases formed the evidence of Murder being destroyed. All the evidence agreed in saying the persons concerned in the procuring of sobjects were cap lisle of aily clime. Sir Astley Conner had given it as his opinion that, were it no t fur fear of detection, those persons would disinter ,t is body. This measure was entirely of a permissive nature, which would pro lent many objections being urged. Indeed the measure 'eras in all respects 'as un bjectionable in princkle as possible. They all agteethat the feelings of relations ought to be consulted; and as only those bodies were ~to be appropriated to dissection which the relations dr. dined to bury, the feelings of such relations would sot • 'be very much hurt, and did not deserve much respect. 'Wjth'regard to what had been said relative to the ob jection that the poor would have to go to the hospitals after this Bill had passed, he considered the fest of it t be perfectly visit nary. Persons going into hospitals is expected to be cured, or, if they tiought of dying, • I they cared little what became of their bodies. Betide% it was not found in countries where the bodies of per. sons who died in hospitals were appropriated to dine tims, that the hospitals were deserted on that accoent. Mr. J. LOCKHART approved of the measure; but tboatat would be well to insert a clause to prevent any body being sot 1 ! ••• dissection without the approbation of a Coroner expressed aim warrant. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that be should support the maw* sa be conceived it calculated to do away with a great evil. hoe absurd to suppose that medical science could arrive at any ye* don without a knowledge of anatomy. To obtain that lusaWlldr_, it .was larcener/ to have a supply of bodies, and yet that c"" not be legally obtained The consequence was a vide*. dal Ms' of all decency, of all the feelings of our nature, Sy pumas bait seed to crime. The alternative of not legalising the met br measure of the Hon. Member was to be found in the analrer of the witnesses rumbaed before the Committee. but wbee____„ l . lll.l fqr very obvious reasons, was very paverly not ghee. saut:dsat be himself supplied the schools of anatomy in liarado. 1800 with 505 adults and forty-four small subject's 11 ° d M ~ 'thirty.sovets lie sent to Edinburgh, and eighteen that be Ind "• hand. is 1810 be supplied 332 subjects; in lilt be MIPPled and in the following summer 234; the adult fetching We 0 , 1 " - 'rage four "guineas, abcrette children being purchased at se Inact inch. After the mournful experience they bad bad within th e. six mnatlisbear).:convicaost must have entered the mind degas" man that somethilig mast be done, due regard being had toboile sy.all respected,to.prevent a recurrence of such sintrolot appeared to him nothing objectionable . in the OKI," • . 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