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teary. But I shall costradrct those Honourable-Gen tlemen by authorities still higher AND those I have ad duced, for though a Noble and latacted Lord (niy Lord Plunkett), has facetiously declared history to be but an old almanack, still, supposing it toile an old almanack. its contents. the principles on whiehit was constructed. may not grow so old as some Honourable Gentlemen would, a id) them. NACINTOSICIId so applicable to the.present cir. eanpasocwa.„ Answer that. Sir tr.:4IETIIERELL (in continuation)—Sir, the N.ble Lordliai asked me one question, .and now the Hon. and 4easned Member for Knaresborough asks the another. Nat, Sir, I most tell my Hon. and Learned Friend' that, not being a Scotchman, I cannot answer two questions at t bnce—(Laughter). Ste,' mean nothing iovidious against the country of my Honourable and Learned Friend. I merely meant that I do not possess that double-facedoess and duplicity of logic which can reply by identicstranswer to two questions of a different tendency.He was answering theNobleLord o wlursalledoir him as a great law authority, and he was not. annwetiok the Hon. Member for Knatesbarough. All the law which excluded Roman Catholics from Parliament existed Wore the Revolution, at the Revolution..and - ifter the Revolution. It was known. that James it decla ration giving indulgence tas, liberty of noastience, and at the enel'of it appeared a. sort of freestade —iicobin religion. Ifni . 4berty of conscience K ing James ordered to be teed Will the churches. The Hon. Member then read several : documents to prove that nei tlier King William nor - the country would consent to that proposition. and that James at last wished to give tip his design of ditsutbing the laws which kept Corso. lie. from Parliament. -King William would not repeal those laws which' kept s out Roman Catholics, but conseoted to ms•clify- the aa.lrs . regu'ating Protestant Dissenters. The Attorney-Grown' having. cleat ly esta blished the fact of the exclusion of Roman Catholics horn Parliarilei.t in 1688,.eg0i0 :Wrested to the Brill:re use the House. When called on as Attorney General fur the King to draw tke•Actert:Patliament,Thwas.ria furai that he sh uld look .to..what had ,beetr•done by ; nit yr Ltw o.Hiers. Ile found that Lord Lyndhurst 1•4.1 deteimined by Isis speech inAhat Hoop, when Sir J she Coll y,. Solicitor General, that he coulati.otitirow .inch H without injury to the Church of England. Ile did not wish to d fier hone the Lord Chancellor,who by his oath was sworn ti doiustice.but he was not bound to fol:ow the example of any. man.. In his own situa ron as Attorney General, het found he could not dtaw the Bill • ithnot subverting the Protestant Constitu tion. It called upon she King to•falsify bib Coronation Oath, and on that;ground he should.refuse a hundred times. if required* tst draw the ate ocioos- Bill. the n lying on the table of tbe,ll .use. I am sure there rue masks , Gentlemen in Hitt House who will remember the able and impressive speech made on this question on* forint r year, by the then Mattes o the Rolls, Sir John Copley; that distinguished individual. than whom there oat none more acute in seasoning, mute splendid in language, shine powerful in delivery, nor more effective and tor cible as a speaker in Parliament—that individual, then of. the Rolls, but now Lord Chancellor, it a dl he - svmembeted. thought 4..t0 quarrel with the late Mr. Casinos on the suliect, whether the settlement of this qoestion was consistent or tips-.with the constitution of these gelatin. Ant I then, Sit. t-r be blamed for refusing Itl4dsniva st.borslinate office, to do that which the then M %stir of th - it ills-tefosed lotto but two years ago? A it I to he tatint,si for it. and twi ted fur it, and ar ta( iced cm every side fug i ? Sir, 'hose been so attycked, but 1 case nit on which sides o by whim; whesher from my rglit or wy left---whether by.the Gentlemen on t as bench (pointing to the Ppposition), vr by the Gentlenreu on ills bench (%4U-ins to the Minis:nisi see) I am ready to meet. to resist.. a 1 such attacks whence-greyer they contr. I am lastly, lam willing, I an. easepiti 'cast them. Sir, I base no reason to be otherwise; I have no real motif% to shrink from the contest—l hue on sveech w eat—(Cheer Mg, turning to , the Mihisterial Bcncl4-.-i haulm apost.tcy to es cus ----I litre no paltry suLtetfuge to resort to—l have • b en white one day and black another-1 have not been a Protestant Master of the Rolls one year, and the neat a Catholic Lout Chancellor. No, Sir, I would rather remain-what I am, the humble Member feie PiTmoton, thin be guilty of such disgtaceful di:Clic don itf principleawsuch bate, such miserable, such con temptible (looking full in the face of Mr.- - Peel) such contentt tible apOatacy. It I were an apostate from the ?rote tont cause,. l l twined not then afford an oppor; twisty for the imputlition that I prevent the University of Combs idge fionssexpressing their opinion on one of their Here eotatites; I should not then be accused of standing in the *ay of my Hon. and Learned Friend, the Member for that University: 'But, Sir, what Hitter said in reference to- Lord Chancellor Lyndhurst does not depend on my mete assertion; I have proofs and au thorities fur Vat, as well as for the law arguments I have already dispatched-pil have documents which rill jost•fs my refusal, on the ground that a. slink her refusal has been made before now by one in a higher office, and under stranger. citcunsstances. Ti Attorray General read a los% eatract :of a speech made upon the Cathrai Q iestian two years since in-that House. It was strongly °mead to Emancipation, and the n.easuse, according to STJAnCOpley, would have . oveituri.ed the Protestant.Es)alslishment in Leland.. It was impossible, after the speYch • he had read, to call' him an ill natured man.. .Hora could he (the Attorney Genes al) be expected todo : thit which the Lotd there cellar had said would upset the PrOtestant Churcli?— (Hear). All the measures previously introduced ori this subject contained some security. This contained stone. They were now in r e ensplitode of concession. It h.el beets observed by an Hors. Member in the corpse of this debite, that the water s were Aiming in upon them. It appeared to him that the waters *ere Hexing out of Attn. They might not, perhaps, have . been able to keep the flood-gates u close as might be desired, but was it necessary to throw theM completely open? They now granted mere than ever was asked, or. he believed, expected. He diJ not owe his situation to the Hight Hon Secretary (Ms. Peel), and even if he did,he ,shoold still have opposed him on this measure. His Right Hon. Fi iend, in 'introducing the measure, said, when carried they would then be able to meet their antago. lusts, if e contest should become necessary. on a vast .ge round, for t:.ey would have with them the sympathies of foreign nations : ,..yhen was England ever aided by foreign sympathy any any of the great contests in which I she struggled for,.her existence and her dearest insti tutioas? Was it..in the American war? How diet France then sym:pathise with her ?—(Cheers) Was it in the timg df Tames the Second, when she strug gled— for her existence and her religion? was it in the vebelltons of 1715 or 1745; or at a later period, when Kettolutinnary principles- were abroad, bow did the Jarsobio Clubs sympathise with England? Goss grant that the tears of foreign sympathy may never have Occasion to be shed over ben, either in her foreign sir uggle-, or in thearrangement of her domestic affairs. It a as with the most sincere pain he differed from his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Pt. el). MI the former Bills upon this questios opened with a profession that the object was to knit together 'the hearts of his Majesty's subjects, and to anialgansitie Protestants and Catholics. This effect he never believed any such measure would have. These were merely the ddicia of speculation. This 8.11, how ever. did not mean to speak of concord as the probable result, for it could not be unknown to those who preptred it that 19 nut of 20 of the people . of England were opposed to it. He recut. levied that Lord Ellenborotieb, sprain of the preamble of a cer tain Act of Parliament, which was not WWI is the body of the Act, said 01 it— • . 4 a Lille a MU bully. lifts its head and Res:* This Mi. laniessiter, 41 not lie; for it said nothing of 'concord, like tamer measures. It should be called rather a measure of discord, 'foils many parti of Ragland there were still Members attached to the Constitution and to the Protestant Establishment who re ceived such a proposition with the deepest discontent. Wash the lhteinion of his Majesty to recommend in the Speech from tbe, Thrime i measure which, while it gave content to some, would displease a far greater number? He should not, for many reasons. 'touch twin the state of Ireland—(Cheers from the Opposition). He would answer that cheer. The King's Speech recommended that the whole state of Ireland should, its agriculture, trade, commerce, the whole state of society, should be taken into consideration. Did they do so? Na, their attention was directed only to one point, and Ater Seven days notjce be was called upon to prepare this 1411.-- , Saco days before the Speech from the Throne was delivered, mil one, he believed, expected such a Big as this. There was not, be felt confident.' Member in that House wbo did not belivve that the Protestant tart of the Administration still held together; nor could they believe such a measurewas in contemplation until they beard the Speaker read the Speech. 'There was no parallel to it in history—. Nikil simile nut ascissduiss. The Right Honourable Gentlenim (Mr. Peel) reminded him of a celebrated leader of whom he was reading that very morning in one of Shakspeare's amusing Comedies, Sir Jahn Folder The Right Hen. Gentleman, in alluding to the divisions on the questiott, said that. 'upon woe occasion there was a majority of four against it, on another of four he favour of it, and on , the last occasion a majority of six. 1 4 ,10, says the leader, .• I'd not march through Coventry with these ragged needs:Vs* hundred and sixty took their course, and the rest will foliow thairkader. His Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Peel) told' him not to be seri. munious. He hoped he was not so. The old Protestant firm of Peel and Co. was broken up, which consisted of four hundred constant customers ; it was broken up merely because it was short of the required number by six. What name it would neat assume be knew not, whether it would tun Cheerios, Knatcbbull, and Henke; but under whatever noose, it wee. with them he should keep his cash. He shouldsow proceed with the Bill itself. It . was nut yet argued ; and he believed the Noble Lord ( Milton) would confess that he did mot understand it all, though so deeply versed in histery. It prescribed an owls to be taken by Catholics, but. these was no means provided of astertairdeg whether the per il:Hi presenting himself at the table was a Roman Catholic of not, le .that it might be taken by any person.-.(Cluers from the Oppo: sition). He understood that cheer. He supposed the Honourable Gentlemen opposite cheered the Decleration of James the Seer, 'I • for Freedom of Conscience. It was net him ( the Attorney tile neral) they cheered, but the Right Honourab le Secretary (Mr. Peel), and in him Junes ll.—(Hear, hear), They might, 6, hear, hear;' he said Yes, they cheered James If. By another clause a Roman Catholic might 611 the °dee of Prime Minister, but allecclesiastical appointments were to be valid In a Commission, , , and that Commission to be appointed by the Lord Chancellor— by lord Lyndhuru. But then a Lord Shaftesbury, or a 'aeries nbiglit be Lord Chancellor; and be need nor tell the House that Jedge Jelliries sent dbwn the warrant for prosecuting the Bishops; and was, though.. at Protestant, as instrumental ID introducing Papacy as even th e successor of Saint Peter...himself could 611. Was it to be supposed that the First Lord of the Treasury would be ignorant where these C.omniissioners lived —that he would know no more about them than if they resided in New Holland? The business might be very well carried on somewhat after the manner of money-lehders. They bad DO tunnel of their own— they never lent money ; but then they knew a Moses Moms who lived in some alley, and he would do the business upon proper security. But who were to be selected foithese Commissioners? The Hill, in fact, admitted the existence of danger, but provided no remedy for it, - and no man could stultify him so much as to draw up such a Mass of folly and contradiction. He was, there fore, turned uff, because be would nut add dereliction of duty to folly and contradiction. A Catholic would be guilty of a misde meanour if he advised the Crown in matters connected with the Church; but bow is advice to be proved? The Ilitl created an offence with an absolute incapacity of conviction. The Catholic Bishops were precluded by penalty from snowing the title of Bishop—a penalty of only fifty pounds. The Bill contains no higher penalty than five hundred pounds, and* Bishops might' pay all out of the Catholic rent. There was no veto on their . . appointment, no means provided of inspecting the Corres pondence with the Pope of Rome, and the trilling penalties , *ere all they had in exchange for the principles they wets going to relinquish. Upon this questiou the right of petition bad been rudely treated. Lie heard it spoken of as factious, that right secured to the people by the Great Charter of JAN . He considered that the question was more a religious than a political one. Why was the late Lord Lieutenant recalled? He advised the people of Ireland to pursue their object, to &Maud their rights legally and constitu. To the people of England he (the Attorney General) said the same. Do nut apostatise, and loaf rights and liberties cannot be kat. As an humble and private lotliiiidual be should aver support the great principles of the Constitution. This Bill, he felt confident, would sign the death wet rant of the Church of England, and its such he should oppose it in 'eery stage—(Loud cheers, which continued for a considerable time after the Honourable Gen tleman sat down.) Mr. PEEL said, about three fourths of the 4efence of the Protestant Church and Constitution had turned on personal attacks. What did they prove? that if this measure was adopted for party purposes, it was the height of fully ; but if, disregarding •party feelings, Ministers had proposed a. measure for the settlement ci Ireland, that did it prove but that the time wa, come when patty feelings must be disregarded for the , attainment of a great public good.—(Hear, hear ) Foremost in making these imputations was the King's Attorney-General, who e situation, be should have thought, would have prevented his disclosing the confidential communications of blielsters. The time was not strived when he could state all the difficulties that his Noble Ft lend had encountered. ro i l ringleg forward this measure. He could nut yet tell why be had not given the Attorney General more than seven days notice. He bad hoped that he might have given his Noble Friend his most cordial support in a private capacity. He would oil the day on which he abandoned that intention. It was on that day when the first authorities in the Church 'told his Noble Friend that they would not support Catholic Emancipation. -On that day he told his Hon. Friend be would unite his fate with his, and the Attorney General was the first man to whom be communicated the linen- dons of Government. He told him the Catholic Association was become so formidable it must be pot doves, mod it was intend. d to grant Catbelic. Emancipation. If the Attorney General then felt all the horror. he now feels at this atrocious Bill, never did be see a man preserve a more perfect command of his countenaose. If he thought the measure included a violation of diarCorameioti Oath, should be not have warned bine of the darer ? but no such word did he utter. K as it quite fair for the Attorney General to assist in the Hill for putting down the-Catholic Aspociation, when be knew another Hill was to be consequent upon it, which be would not support ? Hb Noble Friend (the Lord Chancellor) who was absent had been attacked by the Attorney Gen e r a l. H e . re membered when his Noble Friend was aged what be would Jo for Ireland, he said be was not bound to answer that ques tion, as he was not a member of the Cahinet ; but be then added, that if security could be given for the Protestant rush lisbnient, ht should not oppose conceselon—(Hear, bear). His Noble Friend now was a member of the Cabinet, and was bound to answer that question ; and there was no apostacy in hie conduct. The AtiorneyaGeneral knew the state or Ireland. 'licked drawn the Bill of 1525, for the suppre.siqii of the Catholic &socialism. That Bill failed; and the Attorney-General never tecommendid any other. The question, what was to be done with • Ireland ? had not been answered by any of the opponents of the measure. They said they were not bound to answer it. as they were not Members of the Cabinet ; and when the Members of the Cabinet, in aswer to the question, prOposed the present mum, they were accused of apostacy—(Hear, hear, bear). The majo rity of the Protestant intellect and property of Ireland was in favour of the measure; and if it failed those who were to succeed to the Government of the country could not de. peed on Pro estal support in Ireland. The Protestants of Ireland woubt feel the disappointment even more, than the Catholics. tut the nwa-nre would not fail. The opposers ' of the measure said nothing new had occurred In Ireland to call for it. lied they read the history of the Clare election? The Gentle man who presided over the police of that county came over to this country to exelain the circumstances to his Noble Friend. He stated the existence of a eenibmaiiiin and enthusiasm that no man could contemplate without awe—an eotbuslasna consistent with the most exact obedience to the urderi of their superiors, and themost astonishing abstinence from any physical etcitement; though ea. tirely within their reach. They ineant•no opposition to the law, but to triumpli . by the use of the privileges they bod.obtained., He saw - that such a state of things could not last—and therefore determined to separate himself from his Noble Friend—the deepest pang he ever felt.--but he clearly saw that fighting the battle in that House, witi6 alternate success and defeat. must terminate in Catholic *lmre. many. He Would mad an extract from a speech delivered by a Protes tant Clergyman, whose statements were above suspicion. The Right Hon. Gentleman here read a statement that the Protestants of Ireland were fast emigrating to America. He would ask, was it for the interest of the Protestants of Ireland that such a state of things should be continued ? The power of the Catholics in land was too formidable fur the Protestants, and It was it present inaccessibk to the influence of the Crown. He thought it better to take ow chance, by edmittlacCatholics into the Constitution, than continue such a state of things. He bad said this was nut a 'religious vacation. He did not mean that religion was not costs. blued with the question, bet be meant to answer the argument that it was a question of conscience, and that they were about lis unite themselves with idolaters. He meant to say that. es States' men, they were not precluded from considering the question. The Honottrable Baronet who spoke last night (Sir E. Knatchbel). after loading hint with concocted sarcasm, at last said be would give Catholics every thing bus seats in Parliament and the Po ivy Council. He would ask the Hun. Barooet when his conversion took plat? The Hun. Baronet had formerly agreed with hint in refusing to consider the question—now be was willing to give all hut seats in Parliament and the forty offices filled by Privy Councillors.— Yes; the Hon. Baronet declares himself ready to give to the Roman Catholics all the Offices in Ireland save three—fur that is not more than the number of offices there which are necessarily connected with the Privy Council. Every executive office in Ire land the Hotioarable Baronet will bestow on the Roman Catholics —(llear, hear). What ' • then, becomes of the question of re. ligionists there?. What becomes of the solemn quotation, which be made with upraised hands to the Howe, Nwrgrugor lota fides, —(Hear, bear). What becomes of h's exclamations about con& dens never again to be restered to public men? If the Hon. Baronet is ready to admit the consideration of this lutanist. and to give every thing but seats in the Privy Council and iii Patna ment.to the Roman Catholics—if be is ready to admit Roman Catholics to be competent to fill every executive nice in Ireland, to sit on the Judicial Bench, and to bold every situation connected . with the Administration of Justice in that country—lf he is ready to make a Roman Catholic Solicitor•Genecal, or, if peed - be. Attorney-Central, for it is not necessary that an Attorney'. General should be a Privy Councillor. and at this nsWiteur the'raftitor.. General is not a Privy Comicillorwill he tell etc When be conies to defend his nice diatincliona—will he tell me, f leY, he * will let Roman Catholics fill these Hikes in Ireland, and yet exclude them from seats in Parliament? What, then, becomes of the Hun. Bartmees argument about the intimidation pruduted by factious demagogues on Governntent ? Why. if be tears so nsuch to be thought afraid, why should be yield anything? But then," says the Honourable Member fur Newark. " this h the most unfit rinse of all others to consider this quessi.m." And why? because, forsooth. it is the latem:--ae objection which, It it i s, worth any thing, will continue to acquire accumulated energy every ad ditional time that the question conks before Parli (Hear). Another Hon. Member hit said, that the Gierersiment had no right to propose the lettl•ment of this question in the present Par liament—that this Parliament was not competent to decide it—and that there must be a new appeal to the sense of the people; This Janine the Hon. Member rested upon two arguments. The first is, that we have all tale.the declaration agaiost-trausubstandation, and that we are therefore locumpetent to alter it. If this be so, low, be would ask, was that declaraticin ever to be-altered? If Parlia ment be not competent to alter the oath of suPreniaty. Of the des claration win* transubatantiation, bow did it happen that *at the time .of making the Union with -Scotland, and . also at -time of making the Union with Ireland, a party'. both in 'Scotland and in Ireland, with a, view of defeating the Union, had proposed that the oath of Supremacy and Declaration against transubstan tiation should be made' fundamental' branches in both A.;t. of Union? That was, however, refused in each Act of Union ; and if Honourable Gentlemen will take the trouble to refer to the words of those Acts they will find in each of them a provision is made that the Oath a Supremacy, and the Declaration against transubstantiation, shall be taken by Members of Parliament on taking their seats, until Parliament shall otherwise provide. So far, then, were the Parliament' of former d aye from considering those oaths as permanent parts of the Acts of ()Moo, that they. ab solutely contemplated the necessity of altering them. As to the appeal to the country, let him ask Hon. Members to consider whe ther it would be wise to set such a precedent as to declare their own incompetency to legislate upon any question which- the Crown might think proper to submit to their consideration?— (Hoar, bear.)—Would they so far stultify diemselveis as to begin to consider what questions they were competent to debate ? Supposing that they were to• make such an appeal to the coon• try,-how many ipsestisos did they think would arise hereatter is which it w oul d be said to them—" There k a precedent set to you by the Parliament of limo, which dissolved itself, besauee it hilt halt incompetent to act. do You folios, its example?: I dial, Sir," continued Mr. Peel, "the necessity fur making such • precedent. No, we will not stultify ourselves so much as so say that we are not supreme as to every measure of legisktion w may come before us—(Cheeri). But then we ire told that this is a religious question, and that it is to be diseased a. web. When I hear Hon. Gentlemen raising up in their places, and solemnly declaring that it is an -offence against Gun to attempt the settlement of this question in a -conciliatory manner, I feel that they have armed me with a conclusive argument for not mak- Ins any appeal at present to the people. Would you agitate Eng brad and Ireland from one end to another on so tender and delicate a subject?• You might, indeed, by resorting to such a course, oh street' for a time the settlement of • the question, but it woul d at the expense of the reverence due to r e li g i on itse lf. If the question be rested, as I think it ought to be rested, on the grounds of public expediency. let us assert our own powers to make the ad- 1 moment of it effectual—(Loud Cheers). I believe that it mar he i safely and permauently adjusted on the grounds which I have , tasted. I believe that it may be so adjusted as to ging security to the Protestant Establishment and to the Protestiot Interests in 1 Ireland; and it is because I believe so that I am Potent to abandon the course which I baste Itlthetto pursued, and to glee I relief to the Roman Catholics which they have so lin prayed for. I entreat Honourable Gentlemen who differ from me is epi. Moo, to consider the altered position of affairs in Ireland afoot the annunciation of these measures of grate and favour has ban madd: To be defeated now, to threw the question back rpm us, when ar greater mini has been produced In Irelandlitan I ever knew to ell* there—when there is no spirit of vulgar triumph displayed on the part of Roman Catholics—and in justice to the Protestants I must say it. when their disappointment has been milked by the most patient submission—to lose the advantage which we have now gained, and to reject the conciliation which is within our grasp, would be attended with consequences so fatal to the repose of the Empire, that' I cannot 'even in fancy bear to contemplate them—(Loud cheer.). One parting word, and I have done.— I have received in the speech of my Noble Friend (the Member for Donegal) trinisumnies of approbation which are grateful to my soul; and they have been liberally awarded to me by Gem Iciness on the other side of the House, in a manner which does honour to the forsearance of party among us. They have, however, one and all awarded to me a credit which I do not d es erve for ietding this question. The credit, if it be a credit, belongs, to othersind not to me. It belongs to Fox.—to Grattan,—to Pilleil'ett,to the Gentlemen opposite,—and to an illustrious and Right Min: Friend of mine. who is now no more—(Cheers). By 'their rem% in spite of my opposition, it has preyed' ' tilinuphant and victorious. I wiU not conceal from the H u lse that bribe course of this debate allusions have br:n made to the meniory 'unity ROO Honourable Friend, now no more. which' hair Veen "Mostpainful to my feelings. An Honourabl e Baronet has spoken of the crief Runnel in which my Right Hun. Friend was bunted down. Whether the Honourable Baronet was one of those who hunted hint down, I know not; but this I do know. that whoever jolnedio the lahuatan cry which was raised against him, I was not ooe—s(Cheeri). I was on terms of the most friendly intimacy with that illustrious States man downeven to the day of his death, and I say . with as much sin eerky of heart as man can speak; that I wish be was now alive among us to reap the haven' which be sowed; Ind to enjoy the triumph which his exertions gained. I would say- of Mm, as be said in his own eloquent language of the late Mr. Perceval—A" Would that he were bete to enjoy the fruits of his victory"— • r " rum* ten attnis ; doe to poteremur Achille.** I am well aware that the fate' of this measure cannot now be al tered :• if it succeed, the credk will redound to others ; if it fail, the responsibility will devolve upon me, and upon those with whom I have acted. These chances, with the loss of private friendship and the alienation of public confidence, I must have foreseen and calculated before I ventured to recommend these steasures.—(Cheers) I assure the House. that In con ducting them I hive met with the severest blow which it bait ever been my let to experience in my life; but I am convinced that the cline will come, though I may not perhaps live to see it, when, cull justice will beeline by men of all parties to the motives on, which I have acted—When this question will be folly settled. and when others will see that I had no other alternative than to act as I have acted. 1 hey will then admitthat the course which I have followed, and which I am still prepared to follow, whatever impu tation It may expose me to .is the only course, which i s necessary fur the diminution of the undue, Illegitimate, and dangerous power of the Roman Catholics, and for the maintenance and 'security 'of the Protestant religion.—The Right Hon. Gentleman then at down amid loud cheering, which lasted for some time. • The ATTORNEY. GENERAL said, that the Right Honour: able Sitcretaiy, in the early part of • has speech, bad charged - hint with libel" betrayed the confidential communisations of the Cs ,hinst. my," coatinued •the "Learned Gentle:ma, “ it is pot true. I belltye that no one out of the Cabinet knew of their in tendon to propose thew measures erten sis7s before the me tt l es of Parlfausent"—(Cries of hear). That's my 6 . hest" too; I s a y 6 ' heat"—(Loud cries of " Spoke"). I have not *tared to the House what wes communicated to me by the Bight Ilnuourshh Gentleman. I have not disclosed soy part of what the Right llos. Gentleman stated to me. I fistly, positively, sod directly de ny the a‘scl tine% Mr. PEEL—Eve►y Gentleman will at once perceive, that k may be extremely inconvenient fur an officer of the Government tb take upon himself to state the precise moment at e►hich a combs. ideation was odicblly made. The Gallery was then cleared, and the !loess divided, *ben there appeared, Ayes 353 Noes ITS I Majority..... In& The liall was read a second time, and ordered to be committed en Monday next. The other Orden of the Day were then disposed of, and the Douse adjourned at a QU RRRRR FAIT TN KU O'CLOCK. t ti K H.V EN I Nl* N r i'A it. 140 N 1h . -.we - THURSDAY. .%IAIICI-1 19. 1.0.9 Pltltli o Slut KS AT TWO tre/Art.K. Bang Stuck Shut India Lt.on I. 3 per Cent.lted. Shut South Sea Stock 3 per Cc. Com. B7* i i £100(i Rickey. lie n , 54 3 5 5$ per Cent. lslB. Shut £5OO Ditto 34 3 5 I/ per ('eett. Ural. Shut , kiwi and .X2OU Onto 56 4 4 per Ct. New,lol/ 3 / Commercial 1 per Cost 1/425, Sbut Adeerti.ed I.ting Atm. Shut India for Acct. lulls Stock Shut . Cl/11r4411 for Acct R7s 4 IFOILKION FONOS, TWO Ot:t.to Ai. • DoliA 11,1 q. 3 pet. 643 • I Ito Acct.9s Hass. 144t.1822. 5 p Ct. 914 I Do. Acct. 1 BRITISH AND FOItKION SIIAIIKS, TWO trcptcr. ' *HAUS. P•lffi. .t. 100 100 al 50 9 3 400 400 125 130 t 40 :911 101 114 100 10 • 25`_>;3 A., 2 10 llezicao Iliberaiip Heal del Monte United Mexican Guardian Fire A... Vass Diemen's !And Agrie. inn 7 11 The second readists..t - slie — C4llio:it Bill was carded last night in the House Of G. mtoon, by a•majoritj of 180, the stumhets bring, For the BA 353 I Againot it, 173 I Majority, 180. Thus it •will he seen, that since the division on the first reading of the Bill, the cause of the Constitution has gained thine, n, while that of the Papists has gained only five. The majotity, however, is still so large, that 'the Protestant cause is vittually lost in the House of Cu:ninon' (is we always expected it would be). and the hop of the nation must test on the }Luse of remand the Sovereign. . The length of the debate precludes our making many ".;bsei teatimes upon it; but we would earnestly entreat pie attention of our Readers to the manly, independent, oarecierstiout, and constitutional speech of one of the soundest lawyrs which the C. unity hAs ever produ ce d, the Attorney Genets', Sir CIIAULES Wsrazettu.. If his declarations of tie violation of the Constitution which will be made by this Bill. wire , ' he tie-ignates by the epithet of attocsouv, and of the dangerous con sequences yr! ich must result from its effects, do nut awaken rerieus Apprehensions in the minds of many who. may have been . wsvering in opinion, we sh4ll.indeed, he surprised ; and that its influence will be telt in d e Upder House cannot be doubted. Mr. Past., in his re i .ly. showed how much he felt the keen reply:aches of so learned an authority, and evinced a doubt tf the final adoption of the measures lie proposed, which was well calculated to alarm his friends, and to encourage those who ate the true friends of their country. Of all the speeches which have been delivered in Parliament upon the Catholic Question fee some yeas., that delivered by Mr. SADLIR, the newty.elected Mem. bet for Newark, on Tuesday evening, was the most powerful and convincing. The whole train of its rte• soiling was consistent and irresistible, • hile the lan guage in which the constitutional, manly, and sound pi inciples which it avowed, were expressed, would have done honour to a PITT, a Butts; or a Ctuntso. In fact, the speech was worthy of the cause it advocated—' mely, that of the'People of England in defence of their revered Constitution in Church and State, against the . inroads which liberalism and apostacy are atria to make upon it. Mr. SADLIR spoke the sentiments of ake-tenths of the virtuous and the intelligent pat of the community, and his arguments well, we hope, go far towards convincing the other tenth of the impolicy, -- tlie_ folly, and the danger, of the intended change in the very first principle of the Constitution of our country. It is truly gratifying ter find, in ibis time of genet al apostacy among men long hacknied in the sr ys of politics, that there are others, like Mr. SADLItIy to be found, without the walls of Parliament, who are firm to right principles, and who have the Went, im mediately on being admitted , within its walls, to advocate those principles with an energy and eloquence which immediately command attention, and eclipse the best endeavours of most other Members of the House. ft is encout aging ton, as proving that if there should be a dissolution of Parliament, there would not he sn much difficulty as has been asserted in find men as capable of directing the national Councils, or influencing the deliberations of Parliament as 'those, whose long possession cf place has vainly led them to suppose that no Government could be formed • ithOnt their being component pats of it. A good cause, founded * on the unerring princi ples of justice and true religion, will never want able advocates in this enlightened country, if power and possession do nut deny them the means of stepping forth in its behalf. Mr. SADLaIt has at once established a reputation which must place him in a prominent post in the battle now fighting ; and he will no doubt p►ove an able and useful Member on the various other great questions of nation •1 policy which must necessarily won occupy the attention of Parliament. TwaLva o'CLocc. Although the wind has been to the Westward for these two days past, we are still without arrivals de riendag, naps two Hun burgh and sue French Mail. The Iriner does not bring soy hob accounts fie& the Raw, acne that tbe Escheat's on Landes i c ;l g'ines ete..r neaf Th yl im il a ";l ai t a b l iS is horr als .:64 ven do begral Finde st a inteuigeo re wadi the . same The debate of last night draws the admit= it the Public : che wonting. • Consols opened at wri j for the Acconal, and $m for Mosey, at which price they realm steady at present, with little ee melba( 'doing. CITY. HALF-PAST ONE O'CLOCK: _ Consols which were in the early part' at die metning at rod the Account. receded to 87j j, and at pima may be gssise and for Money 871 to g. with on Wetness 6117 0 7: 00 yobs ncept tie Chancery having purchased at en for Money. The Bank meeting. which took place this 1111110111116 la over, god the dismission related to the aid luides at %lig the memo 'before Me Proprietors. Ntithingef wok pillee _ The Foreign market remains . LORD HlLL'ins — R k, Main 11i. Lieutenant. General .81r. Wiliam Cockburn. Sir John Brow% Rear-Admiral Sir IL lianalltfe, Lord Willem Thrum. aid &beet twenty others. Lorvos: Natalia Pabllibed b Jew Mardi, —7l—v at the Demi Clettee.Ne I, 4, the _ tupristar. Temple Bar.