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which had been hitherto pursued, they would soon :hake the Monarchy to its foundation, and bury the C;snstitution beneath its ruins. He begged pardon tor intruding his observations on the House, and would conclude at :nee tor saying, that he placed no confidence whatever in the plunderers of Copenha . gen, nor in those who had the baseness to originate the cry of " No Popery."-.—(Hear, hear, and laughing from the Ministerial benches.) Mr. LEYCESTER complimented the last speaker on the consistency of the beginning and cod of his Speech. He certainly stated his contempt of the hit , mister most cavalie r ly, and veryinuch, to be sure, to his own satisfaction; but other Members might differ ..from the Honourable Gentleman, and he for one • begged leave to differ from him totally and entirely. For his part he placed t h e hi g h est con fid ence i n tile I ' s Minister. But as to to the present motion, could it possiblt tend to any good purpose, or was it not ra ther calculated to produce a very bad one ? He did i not much care who was i n or who w as out ; b ut if the preservation of the maritime rights of the coun- • try were to depend op the continuance in power of i . the present Minister ,he would support the Minister for the sake of the rights.—( Question, quettion.) ' Mr. WHITBREAD said, although the House seemed eager to come to a decision, he hoped that he would gain the customary indulgence of being allow ed to answer the arguments of those who had spoken against the motion. The Honourable Gentleman slam spoke last was extremely anxious to know what good purpose the motion could serve He could tell the Honourable Gentleman, that one good purpose which it would evidently accomplish, was to give him information on the subject of America; For it was quite erident from the mamur of his speech, that he was greatly in want of such information. The Honourable Gentleman had made a declaration in favour of the Minister,—he was ready to place every confidence in him. This was, no doubt, a sponta. aeons effusion, a gratuitous declaration, springing from his heart, and directed by his understanding.— He was even generous without bounds ; for he not only loved the Minister, buthe loved his colleagues too. They were all wonderful men; they were all men of talent His praises, though very sincere, as it must be supposed, were extremely well-timed ; for they came just after the grand announcement of the Right Ho nourable Gentleman, who, as if lie had escaped from durance, had told the country in no very obscure terms, and rather with exultation, that he was was to be the rrince Regent's Minister. As fir as personal consi deration could affect him, he (Mr.Wllitbread) could insure - the House, tl.at he was excee,lingly careless who was Minister; but as far as his country was con- Cerned—as far as higher and more exalted motives Could sway his feelings—Lc would say, that he most seriously indeed regretted this declaration of the Ril;kt honourable Gentleman. He regretted it, because it forced upon him considers; ions of the most melan- 1 choly nature ; because be knew that the con;incance of the Right Houottrab4: Ge-''.'rnan in power, au gured fatally and ominously for the happiness of his country ; because such a clisasti , us tact promised nn good, and foreboded every evil ; because, calamitous as had been already our situation, this was the shut tins out of hope ; this was the beginning of despair ; 1 this was the consummation of evil. he would ask'the Hourable Gentleman still, why was his sup port of the Ministers so broad ? If the Ilonoui.:ble Gentleman wished to be considered as delivering a consistent opinion, was he quite right in lavis!,ing his praises on the Minister and all his colleagues ? Was . he not aware that amongst those colleagues there was at least one, who differed from the RightHonourable Gentleman opposite, even on principle ; and how then could his approbation equally and consistently extend to both ?--(hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman then argued against the denial of the papers by the Chan. caor of the Exchequer. He was confident that if a motion were made in another place for these papers, the Marquis Wellesley would mat oppose it. The Hon. Member for Yorkshire had refused his assent to the production of those papers because, in his opinion, they wou'd lead to angry discussions. That Hon. Member had said, that he (Mk. Whitbread) had spoken to-night differently from his usual manner. He was sorry that he could not say the same of the Hon. Member, .for to do him justice, or rather ksjustice, he had spoken indeed most like himself.— He had been unfortunately guilty of no inconsistency; he unhappily had not departed from the usual course which he had marked out for himself in that House. The Honourable Gentleman had said, that the pro duction of these Papers would cause irritation. He deprecated the fiery debate and the hot contentions • which those Papers would produce] and yet, with ! parleed inconsistency, and almost in the sane breath, he said, that we gad every information which we could wish before us ; and that every Member had already in his hands just as much information as was necessary to be the foundation of a contentious de bate. As to what was said by another Honourable Member (Mr. Stephen) about the disappointment he felt at the course he (Mr. Whitbread) had taken in enforcing his motion, he could only,say, that he was ,extremely sorry fir that Honourable Gentleman's . disappointment, aggravated as it was by the prepa ration which he arowesi himself to have made of fol • 'lowing the question step by step f if discussing the Orders in Council in all their bearings. It was cer tainly a great hardship on the Honourable Gentleman not to have the opportunity of speaking four hours, as he had done on a former occasion on this subject— (A laugh.) if the Honourable Gentleman had been indulged with that opportunity, he would have per formed great feats ; he would have shown how wrong America was, - and ho' right Great Britain; he would have shown how little England had to deplore the' Orders in Councii.--how very slightly her trade had been affected; not only how slightly her trade had been ajfected, but how much it had been btnefited— how much her prosperity had increased—how much be: wealth had been augmented. All these fine things had been lost because .he Honourable Gentle. man could not make the speech that he intended.— But the Hop:Member resisted the production of the . papers ; He denied the Member for Milbourne the obtainment of his esti #orto ; apd he assisted to keep back that information which 9 1 00 d have corrected the erring statements of that Hon. prntleman, The Right Hon. Gentleman, (the chancellor of the Ex ohequer), had alluded to others as having been the authors of the system op which the Orders fp Ginned were founded. In the name of every thing that was Wat t and g 0 .5.4 F 4 41 wise, be 4444Ped this P7Stg4 as having ever originated with -Mr. Fox. If it ori ginated with any man more than another, it did with that Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Stephen), whose opinions, published sedulously in pamphlets and speeches, con tributed most to the introduction of that system.— As well, indeed; might all the calamities under which Europe now suffers, be attributed to that great man, a; the system of the Hon, and Right Hon. Gentleman, which now fills our gazettes with bankruptcies, and has shut us effectually out from every communication with Europe. Nothing could be more unfair than the imputation of the introduction of this system to Mr. Fox, or to Lord Howick his successor ; their blockade was that which was known to all Europe, which was recognised in the law of nations, which was in f-ict am actual blockade, not a blockade of paper. —The Honourable Gentleman then ridiculed the ar.• gument deduced from the idea of placing confidence in the Administration. ,This was directly the cant when he first came into Parliament. Nothing was heard of but confidence in the Minister; but in whit did it turn out, was that confidence placed ? It was placed in ignorance —every motion for paper and for enquiq was resisted ; and Lila consequences of that re sistance, arising out of the confidence placed in the Minister, were now too well and too fatally known. He then alluded to the tnifairness of the conduct of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who, although be resisted the present motion for papers, did not think it inconsistent to read a passage from a paper of - the French Charge d'Affaires, for the purpose of proving that America had behaved partially to France. He defied the Right Hon.. Gentleman to produce fair proof of partiality on the part of America. When all the papers were before the House, he would meet the Chancellor of the Exchequer boldly on that sub ject. The next argument, if it could be called one, of the Right Hon. Gentleman, was, that where he taunted Members with furnishing arguments against their own country, by putting them in the hands of the Americans. He denied that such arguments were used against the country. They told, indeed, strongly against the Government of England—against the Right Hcn. Gentleman's administration; but was the country to be blamed for his preposterous, and fatal, and foolish measures ? 'LONDON. FRIDAY, FEBRUARY I+. MCI OF STOCKS THIS DAY Al ONE ('CLOCK 3 per Ct. Cons. for money 6211—D0. for scc. 6211 3 per Ct. Reduced 6211-4 per Cent. 781 per Ct. 931—Bonds —s. 176. pr.—Ommum Exch. Bills 94.115. pre.—Long Anne. 16* 5-16ths Mr. WHITBREAD'S motion for the production of the Correspondence between the British aad American Governments, was last night negatived on a divison, 23 against 136. In the course of the debate, Mr. CuawEN• expressed a hope that a change in Admi nistration might soon take place, as the only means of awning a war with America : to which the CHANCELLOR of the EICIIRQUER replied, that he be lieved the consolatory prospect of the Hon. Gentle man was not likely ro :ton to open as he might ;Intl cipate. The issue of the Debate on the subject of Ameri can Affairs last night in our own House of Commons is calculated to postpone the final adjustment of our differences, although we have no occasion as yet to dread the actual breaking out of hostilities, We have this morning received American Papers to the 16th ult. being two days later than these which arrived in town on Wednesday. The above papers were brought to Dublin by the Erin, O'CoNNEtt, from New York. They add little to our previous informa tion on the subject of American politics, but still maintain a tone of hostility, notwithstanding the pro gress of the Importation Bill nrough Congress. The armaments prescribed by the Bill, which WAS passed on the 6th ult. are about to be carried into immeciate execution. The National bitelligencer, which is gene rally regarded as the Washington Official Journal, contains the following observations after the passing of the Bill: Did the Right Hon. Gentleman think himself the country, or did he think that its great cause was iden tified with the existence of his wretched administra tion—of his patched up and broken up administra tion—of an administration, that was actually and merely endured ? He had no right to imagine, that the refusal to espouse his cause was refusing to espouse the cause of the country. The most extrava gant proposition with regard zo America was, that of demanding that America should restore the state of trade, as to British manufactures, to wind it was bef,rc the passing of the Berlin and Milan Decrees, which it was as utterly impossible for the Americans to comply with as to attempts to remove their im mense Continent to the farthest part of the world.— When I.linisters contend for such a monstrous propo sition, .1! idea of negotiation must be at an end. A I hope W. 15 heid out, or a hint of something that was to be done which was unexpected ; but he was at a loss to understand what was meant. He was sorry when .on the eve of a war, any measure should he rejected which might tend to conciliation. He would wish, if it were possible, to extend his motion, and to move two Addresses ; one for the papers mentioned in his present motion, and the other for copies of the cor respondence between Mr. Pinkney and me Marquis Wellesley. It would then be seen how far the Noble Marquis had conducted himself in a tone, or spirit of conciliation. " The passage of this Bill, it Is expected, will dissipate the, cloud of misrepresentation which has overshadowed the proceed ings of the Congress. Suspicion and jealousy can no longer affect to believe that Congress are not is earnest. After agreeing to raise 25,000 additional troops, there cannot remain a shadow of doubt of their employment in war as soon as they can be or ganised for service; unless a very material change should take place in the state of our foreign relations." • The following letter of Mr. 8188, a Member of Congress, from Kentucky, to the Speaker of the Senate of that Province, if we can suppose the writer to be in the confidence of the American Government, breathes a warlike spirit : think," says be, " I am authorised to state that the mea sures of the Committee (of Foreign Relations) meet the approba tion of the PR ututwr ; that the Committee have an assurance that he will employ those means (if entrusted to Wm) as efficiently as they are capable of, unless Great Britain shall, in the month of April, or sooner, adjust, to the satisfacticn of the Government of the United States, the principal matters of difference between the two Governments. The circumstances considered, together with the correspondence between Mr. Mu N ao and Mr. prudence in calculation scents to require, that we should expect a war in the Spring, unless great change should (Ike platy in the Councils of the British Government." A divisicn then took place—For the motion 23 Against it 136. Aubrey, Sir J. Baring, it T. Baring, A. Bidduiplt, M. Burdett, Sir N. Busk, W, Combe, H. C. Curwen, J. C. Freemantle LIST OF THE MINORITY. Green, S. Moore, P. Ham Icon, Lord A. Morris, Edw. Hibbcr, Geo. North, D. Herbert, Capt. Scudamore Hutchinson, Hon. Sharp, R. C H. Whitbread, S. . Horner, F. TtLLEILS. Hurst, R. Creevey Maxwell Smith, W. surrEntNo AMERICAN MERCHANTS. Mr. LOCKHART moved for a Committee to ccnsider the claims of certain suffering American Merchants on the Government of this country. These claims were not for losses during the war, but for bona fide debts contracted by Americans before its commencement with the different merchants of Great Britain. When a treaty of peace took place between this country and America, it was agreed that the cre ditors on each side should recover their demands. The I REPORTED Loss or TIM' SURVE/LLANTE FRIGATE. sum due to the merchants here amounted to nearly I —The Spanish brig Diliiente, which has arrived ar six millions. Numberless suits had been brou,, , rht in ; Plymouth from Corunna, brings a report, that private the various provincial Courts of the several pro- ' letters had .been received at Corunna, from St. Se vinces ; but after abundance of litigation and long i bastian's, in which it was stated, that, in a gale, the' delay, it was at length found no remedy could be ob. I Suavetewerz frigate had been forced into that port, tained. The creditors, subjects of this country, ap- I when the batteries commenced firing upon her, which plied in consequence to this Government to give was returned by the frigate with great spirit, but at them protection ; and another treaty was afterwards length she was compelled to surrender. entered into, by which the United States put them- Desmuc-rlve Flats IN MANCHESTER. —On Sun. selves in the place of the creditors, add promised to day morning last, abo ut f ive o ' c l oc k , a fi re b roke make good their demands. This took place in 1794., ; out in the workshop of Messrs. Mason and Faulkner, and Commissioners were appointed on both sides; but ; brush manufacturers, Cateaton-street, but which, by when they met, the American Commissioners shewed a timely discovery and prompt assistance, was got no disposition to do justice, but wh enever they were under before any considerable damage was sustained. pressed on thesubject,withdrewfromthediscussion,and —On the same day, soon after one o'clock in the 'nothing could be done. Another remonstrance there.l afternoon, another dreadful fire broke out in the upper fore ensued, in consequence of which another con. storey of the warehou se o f H a i g h, M arsha l l, and vention took place in 180'2, by which the Commis-1 Tidswell, the corner of Hi g h- street and Chin-eh-street. sioners agreed to take from the Americans the —Although assistance was immediate, destruction sum of g 600,000, in lieu of all those debts. These ! pressed in on every side. From one storey to another creditors now say, that if this Government chose, by the devouring element descended, till the whole was Commissioners of their own appointing, to take so o consumed, in spite of the incessant streams from the much less than the creditors were entitled to for their I many engines which were brought to the spot ; and claiins on America, they deemed themselves justified on Monday morning last, about half-past two in calling-on this Government to make good the re- o'clock, a part of the vast mass of goods, lying in mainder. In all cases where a State gave up the : Marsden-square, was discovered to be on fire, which vested rights of its subjects, it mad e good the same; had smotheringly burned, undiscovered, from the pre. and he instanced those of Georgia and Florida, where-1 ceding day. '1 he alarm-bells were immediat e ly rung , in the inhabitants received compensation for losses by ! and the persons appointed to watch the valuable stock the cession of these two provinoes. Those merchants I of manufactured property, set themselves to coin had delayed bringing forward their claims, becatteft guish the threatening flames, which, after upwards of they were told that it would be premature to do so 'an hour's conflict, were happily got under. Though till' some final arrangement was made between the , the damage then- done would, at any other time, I two governments. After a long investigation, have been deemed considerable, yet coupled with the there had since been stated to be due from the Ame- primary fire it was little thought of. The pr operty, rim . Government to Great /Wain 51,420,900 ; in the streets was guarded by soldiers till Monday, and this sum having been liquidated, the petitioners when it was begun t 0 be removed to diff erent ware availed themselves of the first opportunity to bring houses, and the tremendous ruin now stands a fearful forward these claims. With what degree of right tnonument of the sudden destruction and disp oof they did so, he would pot nudertql! ?a fiT bet . 60 . e au , i mmense rwrrcr_____Th The Dublin Correitondent states from these Papers, that the motion for permitting private vessels to arm has been negatived. .. l - \ . • far be went with them, as to thitlk them entitled to bring them forward. He therefore moved, that the said Petition be referred to a Committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in agreeing to this Committee, by no means con ceived the Petitioners had any caU on the House.— They only asked for a Committee to collect facts : but when Government had dope every thing in their power to obtain them their claims, short of going to war, they ought not now to be called on to make up the difference between the 8600,000 and the whole claims. A Committee was then appointed to take the peti tion into consideration. Adjourned. -THE EV ENING STAR. NIGH TRYLiSOM SPECIAL COMMISSION. Johan Swish,R sElo:orthn another o t I of th e th ri e tu psof a s ris n oofthe a nt r e: , e r tu sa. takena l t : Fran..m._Th._,ll._, imputed bi rn , I‘ F . re as n p c u h t ser to v th ic e e b o a n r t pu he th ca pe p rsi t son u it re tiern indictment against this to b ee bide the overt acts of his having entered the p, service, and worn the u n if orm o f a French with that he assisted the enemy i n ma ki ng certain en„;• o ti f sed war o , n c e al jloedhuslmide,Kens toneaa:roanndadcees;taanindottaterheo7rii Majesty's liege subjects, to desert their a • and join the enemy. The case was stated to the Jury by the A GaNaaaL, with suitable observations, when t h e Gl _ lowing witnesses were call e d : •ussi Joseph Groves, late a seaman on board his Majesty's ship m i . ethan e , stated, that the prisoner was a mewinue of bis ea u the vessel was captured by the fumy, and that he bins say he was b.irti in Liverpool, and served.his nee u --- m...._ renter. 'Before the Magicienn e w as taken , the '''' pressed to bins and his other inessinates,a era that nu eug. ‘ . taken and carried into Port Louis, th at be woe e,,T,.."" French service, as he had been before. This i.e was hew u m "' a great many times. When th e y w ere taken primsers stilton - -7 and prisoner were taken to a French rrisoa.lie.p, inn s . ' (caner was put, but the latter said he w ou ld be" 1e.....eir6. . would go an board, and that he would r at h er go kite the p un i; service than Into the prison-ship." 'I be prisons, was d ie mei wshore' sod witness never saw him afterwards. On his cross-examination, be said be had no resew 114 nit that the prisoner would do les duty if the ship led bees by the enemy. William M'Carma proved that the prisoner tense e s b ui , 4 the Magicienne, in the carpenter's crew, and that he augu. several times to enter the French service, status( tha t h e i m i joined them, that the English service was nothing letd en ". and that be lived Ike a gentleman while he weei - 4 French. Francis Donnelly, a meseniate of the primer ea here u s Magicienne, heard him say that the French service was bee s than the English ; and that ff be had an opportunity be sew join the trench, as he had done before. John Young, a marine at the Magicisitne, preyed the ` we the prisoner several times at large, to malts mu* slides, Ls the barrack-yard. oa wain. he tied ea wo e the Fiends &est, but he saw him on the Sender fallimeng,eu et ell in French full uniform. John Cheshire also proved this The ca-e tieing dosed on the partrthr. :ewe, ibe pu s/ was called on fur his deem. He stated, that the witnesses against hies hd owed him a spite, in consequence of his having 4 16 covered some of their mel-practices on bo n a itip ii their Officers, and that consequently they woven entitled to credit. He disdained the chirp ef ji i having put on the French uniform from dig a r 4 and that be had only put it on once, and that for the purpose of enabling him to go to to. hisses. rades at the prison. He acknowledged that bs hi been employed by a french baker to the garrison is build a new bake-house ; but denied that 10 wet assisted in making a single catronade-41ide,* • Mr. BROUGHAM then addressed the Jury "silk evidence; and the Arroaver GiNfettAL barite % plied, Sir S. La BLANC sun:Med up the tridietx t when the Jury found the prisoner Guilty.— 1 George ifroutroag was next put to the bai?. ea te indictment against him was similar to that ageing the first prisoner tried. The ATTOINIIT 011 P MLA t., in stating the ease, obenvoi, dui the charge against the prisoner would be proved by several we news, in the clearest end most satisfactory MOW. am* others who would beat testimony to his delinquency, win Lit tenant Merton, a Gentleman who gave evidence pia ao dell, and who on that occasion, it might be recoilecuil, answering a question put to him by the Counsel forth, as to the eau.e et his having been sent to prison dark been at large on parole. '1 his refusal on his part, had Mr 1, given rise to many harsh observations in Court, bet hal forth to the prejudiceof Lieutenant Bcienon. Mantled 004 Oakes or so much merit should have the slightest part of ben% duct unezelancd, he, the Attorney General, had math it lifin seals id it,quire into the cause, at a reluctance wilds event him, abbougu he knew how to appreciate the charmers ef geseiemaii in question, seemed inexplicable. Hewes are to stem, and he hoped it 'night be se generally "adorer teal, Lieut. lirienon had beat induced not to answer that In. from feelings which rather trnArd to enhanFe UM valved bean ratter, than to diminish the respect which his anew& bomb had elicited from his Superior Officers. The reel fact ten, Pet whale he was on parole,ne had been so frequently meekedel*l most gross and offensive tr.anua by a French drummer, este* standing the frequent complaints be made to the heads that at length, no longer able to resist the impulse at he knocked the offender to the ground. For His mt. AO cool reflection•he himself could not bat con lame hews ved of his liberty, and this act it was wbkh ite Ilk conceal, inasmuch as he was conseious, however might have been the cause, hp had in some niennie from the dignity at all times charaaerinie of a kinds 01111111 • The several witnesses were then called and essedeeen pare of the iLI Funs ictineet. Fi their testimony I=ol the prisoner had been two years in the French t lid 04 acted sin two or three occasions as a guard over British among whom was Lieutenant Briertos, p e i t a k u2 o g rekivdl win to the person of the prisoner; be also es the bist to by the Attorney-General. The prisoner in his defence, said he bad left his rhoag , view of getting employment as a shoemaker. In whirl had been brought ap. He denied ever having serwdessal ll 4 and mentioned his heel* wed to escape to the Bainbell* arm—Three wit:Neese were called in /won of Me WIWI they, however, confirmed the fact of his bane; bon 111 French service but bore testimony to his baying enelhek, shoemaker, and having attempted to escepe, for welsh be was severely punished, having bed his eye knedicd Me I hii band broken. Baron MACDONALD ba r Z h..... sammed up the widendes lbeft soner was found Guilty— At sia o'clocl the 911 1 11 . . journed till tonnarrovr. ra sv.—Dv a 1.1. t a—W•darfadaT "litrais4 formation was re eve d, that Captain Ls Morn ay, she Aromas of Foot, and Lieritswint Healey, oldie Sidi MOO of foot, were going to light a duel yesterday mad % t asig g , foosequence, warrants were issued against theall. Low* Vickery, learning that thepartiesilept at the luisi Charlog-erosa, went there yeateri;ay them. They were held to bad. Qv u-sgo *a a—Yeetorday a Lady was dined eel* dill* fog rs and other tradesmen to the amount of 41100 ! JORK•MAILICILT, MARIWAISE. Fu. 11.-1 u dr4 ' curnisittes nearly es in our last, very few ants* of and not =Loco on hand; this wade bat prbei nee tuned; the same may be ivied in the wads for Will ""-‘ Pens sod Beans of each sort remain as little flotriiallai" M r MOIL few !reels arrival* of Oats, bat not many analio ll lt. hardly sales suit effected to worm a 'Midis ow named priors; Flour at the late quitaffast A LIOCILT Pitionr.-0a the 1 elk aflame moothos Mt. sot of the lidgewaresroad, was passing by Chain Cram* slimed by the populace crying out," a mad beer oat • big his had he perceived an caudated aid ems to NM the only way to avoid him was to tern latossmebailla 1-1 ° diet offered was a .Lottery Office, and after gasloadiw. he thought, as be osier had pinhead a 'llan omw a cormos netpiod Dame Airtime bad taken to km Lap ;he morello* p Two icketssi 1118 and was istiordni with 'two urchased Tbouesod Nestikes a 41,000 Prise.-04 receiving hi Moony. bought two more l'iskets In the Lottery to be Mail an' day, and aid, Wbe knows bpi I may be fright/mid bin • LONDON t Printed by Levu. 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