Star. — London, England, 1829-03-05 00:00:00

r demise who has produced it be a Member of this House, -can emseinee me that I am out of order, I shall imme diately sit down • but, if he "lif not • Member of the House, or that he does nut like whet I am crying; be is quite at liberty to withdraw—(Cheers and laughter). Big, I repeat, the interruption was unnecessw and improper. Mr. C. DAWSON, in allusion to the assertion that 'the rising talent of the country was on the side of anti Catholic principles, stated that, at a debating society, consisting of the junior students of Oxford, a question ;impose.' during the late election was, whether the Go , vernment deserved the confidence of the country for the new measures about to be brought forward? and that, after an animated debate, the meeting decided in fsvour of concession by a majority of two to one. He ' was sum that the poll taken at the Oxford election would, when published, show that the mature and well known talent of the University were on the side of the questongo which the Hon. Baronet was opposed. Lord MILTON reminded those Honourable Mem bers who boasted that the learning of the country was sante to Concession, that another as respectable a body of learned persons, namely, the University of Cambridge, had recently decided in favour of Emanci . potion. Mr. FYNE., CLINTON had been at the recent elec tion for the University of Oxford, and had some res . sons for thinking that the majority of the younger students were opposed to the principle of Concession. Of the debating society alluded to by the Him. Mem ber, all he could say was, that, if it consisted only of the ' same number of members as it di .Iwhen he was a student, it would bear but a small proportion to the general . number of students contained in the University. As to the assertion that the poll, when published, would prove the learning of the University to have been in favour of the Right Honourable Secretary, he begged leave to deilare that the Gentlemen who voted for the serum cif his Wnourable Friend were distinguished alike for their respectability of station in the Church, in the University, in society, and for their general worth, learning, and talent. Honourable Members on the other ',Woof the question had blamed those Win. • Friends of los who had termed the introduction of the new Mini Aerial measures a change in the Constitu tion; but surely, when it had been admitted by a Mi .' Eiger in his place in that House, that these measures would break in upon the Constitution of 1688, it was hard to censure those Honottrable Friends of his for using improper language when they called such a as ea sur e a change of the Constitution. Mr. TENNYSON denied that measures of relief for the Catholics made any change in the ConstitutiOn as established in 1688. The Bill of Rlgh;s went no fur . then than to eiclude a Papist King from the Throne. Lord MORPETH dened that all the eminent persons • of every l rotession were opposed to Emancipation. • The petition that was shortly about to be presented in favour of Concession from the bar of England would . co , lute ti e Honourable Baronet's assertion on that point. As to Oxford, it was enough to know that of fourteen Professors, eleven had voted io favour of Mr, Peel. If the rising talent of the country was friendly . . toexclusive principles, it was a pity it did not show sonar practical i►lu,tratiun of its existence, rather than be content To blush unseen, And ware its rweeenwss in the desert air." Sit J. Gl{ AiIANI I eifig. ked of the 'lames affised to oar of the peti that -it wa. very difficult to aster . - lairs what. were the (vial. tr,, of the Poet Laureate on the bUTCL 01 Emancipation, inasmuch as that Gentleman had charged his o, inions so • ft, n on political matters. He woulcl, however, bullet take to say that the opinions of the Laureate would be found to be now, as they usually were, it, favour of any measures proposed by his Maje , ty's Government. It the rising talent of the country was adver e to courts ion, it was very surprit : ing that it was found so disposed every where but itlion the walls of that House. The publication of the • pill of the Oxford University election would prove that eve among Cl.u, chmen mete existed a great difference _of opinion on the subject. For his putt he regretted the result of that election, and if ever the Cbuich in- teseits—the High Church inters ti—should come into ' danger, then the University if Oxford, too, would re. • gret that result, and would regret their present chaos pion. The day may not be distant - Teatime erit main° cum optaverit emptuat • 'stamen Palma; et cum yolk bta dismiss Oderit. Mr. DUNCOMBE, too, bad been at the Oxford election, and understood, from conversations which he bad with many members of that- University distin guished for their learning, that they voted for the Right HOU:Secret4ty, nut through approbation of she mea sures about to be recommended by that Right Hon. Secretary. but becau+e he haebeen their old Member, and ens a proper Representative for the University.— F. r these season., and not through a desire to support ' a measure of concession, many Learned Members of ti e Utiover.ity had given their support to the Right ~Hisn. Gentleman. The Prtitioos were then lald on the table. They were from Slagiatratirs, Clergy, and Gentry of Bolton le Ninon; South !Shields ; the Preshyrery of Caithness; and from Kessekli, county of Cumberland—against tunher concessions to Roman Catholics. "Si. R: H. INGLIS disclaimed all i Mention of enter ing on that ritca,ion int . the question of the late elec tion foe the U. iversity of Oxford; but he would repeat what he b a d said before, 'hat the ri.ing talent of the country was not in favour of concession to the Catholics. A, a proof if the eorteeiness r f his assertion, he was enabled to state that thin) first class mencarne forward ors public principles to give him their unsolicited sup port, not through personal preferencelor him jSir R. bytlis), bet on their attschmei t to those prineiple i; with which his name was connected. As to the °Onion of Mr. Southey ost the subject, "he seas enabled to state; on the anthotity of an intimate friend of that Gentle man's (the Honourable Member for hlontgomer)), sit Cr the question of Rmancipcion was discussed in this coning, in the year 1801, the ppinions of the Poet Laureate had suffered no change no that question.. lhusely there could not be a mud stronger proof ol CinalibleCCy than that single fact Cheers). _Orr Ow EWA 011 GC Mr. G. Dawson the pamper Rills Bill was brusnibt In and road a fuss time. . - The time Hem Hamm brought op the MisccUapeoos assits.—Ordered to he on the table, sad to be printed. Ws J. LOWTHER presumed a Petition from Wisheitaven against ;be Catholis Mims. Sir J. GRAHAM said he bad been requested to state that the petition had been got up under the sand of an agent of a Noble Lord, tio relative of the Hon. Ho. • loner Who bad jut ireseliteci it. It was intended in submit the petition to a public meeting, but, when it was Ctiderstood that an pj.position to it was determined on, the idea of holding ti public meeting was abandon ell. The petition wai 3 then latried about by police officers for signatures, Mid was nod by children no der tea years of age, anal the children of the national 'chards. He had, howeveri•sa counter petition to re set.' limn the same teen 41 favour of concession; and loather, he was sure that the Noble Lord in the eons-. n3isst..n for the °thereof Woods and Forests would feel •1 4, • particular pleasure in learning that a numerous and respectable body of his constituents had resolved to petition Parlipment in fateibr of these measures tovhich the rjoble Lord, as a member of an united Adminis tration, bad determined to give his support. sir JOHN LOWTHE'R then presented Petitions against As C.atbelic Mhos tree Netherby, sad three other places in Camber. land, and ens Own Annandale.—Ordered in lie oo the table. Sir ROBERT HERON presented a Petition from the united parishes of Claypool*, Weetkorough, and Doddington, in favour of the Catholic Claims. Colonel LOWTHER, in presenting a Petition from the Clergy, Magistrates, and Gentry of Lansdale. against the Catholic Claims, declared his Intention to vote against the Intended measures of concession. Mr. BLACKBURN presented a Petition from the Magistrates Clergy. and Gentry of Warrington, against any farther concession to the Catholics. General GASCOYNE supported the Petition, and testified to the respectability of the signatures affixed to it. It was signed by nine-tenths of the adult male po pulation of the district from which it had proceeded. It was, io fact, as respectable as any petition that had been presented on the other side of the question.— Ordered to be laid on the table. The Gallant General then proceeded to present a Petition against Emancipa tion, signed by nearly 4,000 inhabitants of Pi estop and its vicinity. . Mr. JOHN WOOD said, that the Gallant General had reason to speak in high terms of the petition tivWch be presented, as it was, in fact, the result of his own nittftiool. He (Mr. Wood) could safely say that dor • would'have been no such petition from Preston, all the inhabitants of which felt grateful to the Government for the conciliatory measures recommended, had it not been for the Gallant General's pamphlets and adver tisements. The Gallant General had, in f tct, acted as recruiting-sergeant to the church, which he 'consid red in danger. His advertisement, however, would have this effect, that the prophecy itself would be the cause of bringing about what it foretold. He(ldr. Wood) had received a petition . from the same Borough of Preston, solely confined to that Borough, which was signed by 3,616 persons, some three of whom were members of the Corporation. He should be the last man to derogate from the respectability of the petition signed by 2,000 of his own constituents; but when the Gallant General had said that a number of those who tigned it had voted at the election for him (Mr. Wood), he should recollect that he as well as his Honourable colleague had been returned for the Borough on the express pounds of suppotting civil and religious liberty. His constituents, therefore, could not possibly have been deceived. The petition presented by the Gallant General was not confined to Preston ; it had been sent round the country for fifteen miles, from house to house, and the question asked was, a Will you have a Protestant or a Popish King r All that could be said, therefore, was that the two thousand indivi duals who had signed it preferred a Protestant King ; and if he himself had not an opportunity of judging for himself, and supposed that the Petition was to pre vent a Popish King from reigning, he would have signed it. He bad, however, he repeated, a Petition in favour of Cttholic Emancipation, signed by nearly double the number who had signed the Gallant Gene-. ral's Petition—by 3,618 actual inhabitants of the bo rough of Preston; and he had also thirty-two Petitions from the several townships through which the Gallant General's Petition had been borne for signatures. General GASCOYNE said. it was impossiblefor him to avoid saying a few words in reply to the observatiims of the Hun Member for Prestos,. The Hon. Member had s.sid that he had procures the Petition by an ad vertisement. So far from having issued, he had never beard of such an advertisement. He did not, however. see any great reason the Hun. Member had for triumph. the only Petition which he.(6eneral Gascoyne) had head of from the neighbourhood to which the Hon. Member had referred, Was one. from . Liverpool. signed by one hnndred persons, and another he believed aigneJ by fifty. He would give them 200 out of a'population of 160,000. The Petitions which he bad the honour of ' presenting bad been got up by the inhabitants of Pres ton and Warrington. He had not interfered with the Hon. Member's constituents, nor did he know of any thing to excite the Hon. Member's anger but the pro !salinity of losing the confidence of his constituents.— The Hon. Member then presented another Petition to the same effect from New Church, Rosendale, in the county of Lancaster.—Tte Peti ions were ordered to be printed. Mr. MUNDY presented Petitions from the congregation el St. Peter's Gravel, and from the parish of Tibshel, and another parish is the AdaciiralnlOoTt Gloucester, r ple gai tiea l fur C of Nottingham troths same e ff ect. Petitions holic Cl from the county Mr. CROMPTON presehted Petitions in favour of Catholic Emancipation from the Protestant Dissenters of Derby, and from thellotwo Catholic inhabitant s of two parishes in the countyof Curk. Sir W. GUISE presented Petitions to the same effect from the Mayor, Sheriffs, and Liurgesses of the city of Gloucester, assembled in Council; and from the inhabitants of Cheltenham. The Hon. Member.begged to express hli cordial concurrence in the prayer of those petitions. Mr. J. i 1 00D presented similar Petitions from the Unitarian Christians of B i.ton-1,-Moo s; and firm the Unitarian Cluisti.ins assembled for ts oiship in a chapel in Manchester; also a Petition (von the C chalk inhabitants of Holy well, in the county of Flint. Ot this last petition he had to remark, that a rtquis non fos a• netting to sign a petition against Catholic Emancipa tion had been got up in Holy well. The greater part l of those who attend:4l the meetin; could not speak English. The letter signed Winchslsea and Notting ham Was translated i •to Welsh for ' them, and distri buted amongst them, and, o hen any one rose to speak to a resolution, if they understood him to be in favour of she Catholics he was hooted down. It was in con sequence of this meeting that the petition he had the licnour of i re-eating was forwarded to him by the Ca ,frolict- of Holyweli. Mr. CARTER presented a Petition in favour of Ca►holic EinancipotAxi from the Mayor, Sheriffs, and Burgesses of the town of Porteniouth. Lord - GEORGE LENNOX believed it would be found that the signatures to this Petition were procwed in as bad a manner as those to the other which had been sultiJel to. Not only boys and women were in duced to .igst it, but even the solders who were quer %cud in the town, and a great many Catholic soldters had signet it. Mr. CARTER begged to remind the House that this was the Petdinn ut the Corporation of Portsmouth, transmitted to him under their seal. I.old GEORGE LENNOX explained. He thought the HMO. Member had said it was the Petition of the town of Put tsmi=uth, and as he knew such a petition was to be presences. to the Howe, he would not have to repeat the same remark of it. _ M. FLE ‘IING pretented a Petition from Bishop .toke, in the county of Southampton, praying that no further Concession, might be granted to the Roman Ca tholics. He re4tetted that he could not entirely concur with so ou zeroes and respectable a body or men as tho►e who had signed the petition. He had long since formed his opinion on that question, and be bad certainly al ways regarded the aumissioo of Roman Catholics to political power with dis rust and apprehension, not from any hostility to the Roman Catholics, but because he . • I thought h could not be done ;than endangering the' Constitution as it was establishod ig one themes'd six hundred and eighty-eight. To *serve this Coost•tuanp e was plelgeJ to *rmistiatentl; but he wutadnot go the length oft eject ills aitogelhertbe measures b ner, to beploposed. before, he knee what they west. He should be happy if relief could be afforded to the Ito man Catholics without endangering the Constitution, and Loped that the Bill would be accompanied by such' measures as would secure it. He rejoiced that securi ties Were no longer to be scoffed at, nor considered as a plaything in a nursery, or amulets to hang round a child's neck He trusted that ample provi.ion shout be made tor the securiiy or the State. He had too much confidence io the Noble and tairious Duke at the head of his Mijesty's Government, and in the Right Honourable Gentleman. the Home Secretary, to joubt for a moment that such would be the character of the Bill. He repeated, that it was with regret he tefu,ed to go she full length of the petitioners, and he re joiced that the country was shortly to be relievidfr ton u,pcumt. General KING presented Petitions against the Ca tholic CI lints from the Protestant inhabitants I f the county of Shen, from the Protestant inhabitants of the county of Roscommon, and from the Protestant lobo. birants of the parish of Ballinasloe. They were -igiteil' by the Nobility, Clergy, Gentlemen, and FreeholJers , ,f those counties, and contained the greater por.i n of the landed proprietary. In addition to the prayer against further concession to the Roman Catholics, they like wise prayeJ that notice shculd be taken of the esta blishment of the order of Jesuits in I.elar,d, and that they should be suppressed. He pea. etls vo.turred with the petitioners in the dangi.r to be apprehended from monastic institutions. One of those petitions was signed by four thousand of the most respectable info* bitants of the county, and likewise paged that the Catholic Association might be effectually suppressed. He read this part of the Petition. :is in reality that body might still be said to exist, as the Bill for its suppre-- sion had not received the Ito) al Assess'. It was not, therefore, a work of supererogation to petition against it. Mr. CRIPPS presented a Peti.ion to the satire effect from the Borough of Ci;encester, in Gloucestershire, signed by 908 persons. He could assure the House that no undue influence had been used to tontine those signatures; they were perfectly voluntary. lie himself had invariably doted against the Catholic claims, and he had given his opinion in arid out of that Moue in con formity with his vote. lie regretted that from any information now before the H use he could not turn round and say that he had been all his life in error, and WAS ready to-pursue a new cour.e. At the same time, it such a clause should be introduced into the Bill as should satisfy his mind, be did not say that be would oppose it. He had nut yet, however, procured sufficient information to induce him to differ horn the petitioners. General ARCH DALL presented Petittotis lasin the parishes of Devesiish, west division if G Moon, Enniskillen,Detryvullen.Templecann icy Drum. berm, and Trory, against further concessions toltlinan Catholics, for the suppression of the &inset, Catholic Association, the est iblohnsent of Jesuits in Itel.nd, and dreading theinaitence of the Priests over the forty &tilling freeholders, mutt numerously and respectably signed, including the Noblemen, Lauded Proprietors, arid Gentry in the country. Mr. HENRY MAXWELL presented Petitions from the parish of St.Maef the Less, Cambridge; from parishes in Glas gow and Warwickshire ; and from several parishes in the counties ,of Down and Antrim (in 27 Petitions), praying that the Catholic Association should be effectually put down, that the elective fran chise should be regulated, that the society of Jesuits should he sup pressed, and that no further concessions should be granted to the Roman Catholics. Mr. G. MOORE presented Petitions from the Protestants of the county of Louth, from the Protestants of Kilkenny, from Car rickfergus. Parsontown, Mountmellick, and nine other Petitions from different parishes in Ireland, against any further cunceosioos to the Roman Catholics. Mr. F. WEST presented similar Petitions from the Welsh Cal vinistic Methodists in./min-street Chapel, and frons five parishes in Wales. Mr. SHIRLEY presented four Petitions to the same effect from parishes in the county of Xlonagham Admiral Sir IL HARVEY presented eighteen Petitions against further concessions to the Romani Catholics irons different p.m of the county of Essex. Colonel WILSON presented a similar Petition from the city of York, signed by Ave thousand persons. lie stated that the Petition was signed by some of the moat respectable persons in the city of York.and had originatfdist a public swami. He had no hesitation in saying, that a great majority of the Pr Assam. of the city of York were decidedly opposed to any further concessions being granted tothe Roman Catholics. - Mr. W Y TILL admitted that the Petition isrrwitted by his Hon. Colleague was numerously signed. He begged, however, to stair, that the public meeting at which the Petition originated was egos posed exclusively of Penal/ unfavourable to Catholic Emancipation* He would shortly/Wee the hrrouur of presenting a counter Petition from the same place, still more respectably Bigot& and :ae doubted • if it would be (maul that a majority of the inhabitants of York were opposed to the RoMan Catholics, Colonel WI I.SON completely disagreed with the assertion of the Hon. Alersibet, and repeated, that a great =qui fly of his con stituents wore unfavourable ro what was called Carbolic Fustanci palm. The proof of the pudding was in the eadng—(a laugh)— and a reference to the petition would prove bow respectably it was sighed. Ile assured the House that a document more entitkd to consideration bad seldom been presetted to tba: bird G. I.tiN NOX prewntrd ►ix Petitions from Chichester and its vicinity against any further Cosicessimu to the Roman Caloilics. Mr. DUG DA LK presented a Petition from the Arclideaconry of York, and sic prtitionsfrona sliffereot parts of the county or York, to a shr.ilar effect. Mr H. BATLEY presented a sindlir Petition front the Corp.. ration of Beverley, and declared his determination to oppose any measure for throwing a greater share of political power into the hands of the Roman Catholics. He thought the proposition involved the security of our altars and our dressides, and that it should meet with the most determined opposition. Mr. BUCK, in presenting similar Petition* from Barnstable, Bideford, and other parts ot the county of Devon, declared. his entire concurrence with the views of the Petitioners, and his inten tion to oppose any further c oncess i ons to t h e Boman Catholics. Mr. HODS&N presented a similar Petition front Brimley, in the county of Lancaster. A similar Petition was also presented from Kirkham, in the county ot Lancaster. Sir H. PARNELL presented Petitions from Tarbert and two other places In the Queen's County iu favour of Catholic Enusocipa tion, and praying fur the repeal of the Subletting End Vestry Acts. Lord CLIFTON presented a Petition from the inhabitants of Canterbury, and also a Petition fruits the Dissenters of Canterbury, praying for the removal of the disabilities affecting the Roman Catholics. Colonel ANSON presented a similar Petition from Great Ter .mouth, in the county of Norfolk, which was signed by 600 permits. He did not say that the petition expressed the sense of the majority of the population of Great Yarmouth, which was 20,000, but it was signed by persons of greater rank, influence and character than could be found to sign a petition on the other side. The friends of the Roman Catholics did not think it necessary to petition on the present occasion, having full confidence in the Government and in Parliament; and he crusted that this *teat question would at length be settled, being convinced that Its adjustment would be a blessing to millions, and an injury to none. Mr. RU .1 BOLD bore testimony to the great respectability of the signatures attached to the petition now presented by his Hon. Colleague —The petitions were severally ordered to lie on the table and to be printed. • 1101111 L MARINI lIIIIOLATION SILL. Mr. CROKER brought in a Bill to regulate the Royal Marine Forces whilst on shore, which was read a fi rst t i me. an d ordered to be read a second tla:e to•snarrow. 111 r. MALCOLM presented Petitions from Leverton, Boston, and two other places. against further Contentions to the Roman Catholics.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. HENRY GItATTAN presented a Petition from persona engaged In the corn trade in Dublin in favour of the Roman Ca (bale Claims, coneelvintthat conceuions to the Roman Catholics would be highly conducive to the general Interests of the country, *Oman/4 and otherwise. The same Hum Member presented a I petition, ale. praying kr osseessass. Irma alossith In as larifft Kildare. Colonel SI 81110111PRpresented a redden treat Summed, to Lincolnshire, spinet timber coseesstess to the Rurnau Catholi c .. —Ord.red to beprinted. Colnitil DAVIES presented a Petition from Worcester in fa. 'sour of the Roman Catboat Claims. NOR rll presented Fashions trona the parish of Ihigg ems . and two other places in Inland. In favour of the Roman Cache% Mr. HUMS moved for a variety of RettiOns respecting tbe boy of Sierra Letitia., its Population, &c &c. and the number i t captured Slaves brought in there since THOU. The *gate Rem ..Idember moved for a Return of the Pipendlture of 50.0 Of. voted last year for defraying the charge of pilotage, &c. in t h e year leta, —Agreed to. The House adjourned ICS QUARTZ& PAST CONT. CLARE COUNTY ELECTION. (SELECT. CO M M I rI'EE). The Committee appointed to consider the merits of the Pettifog agauist the return of Mr. O'Connell for the County of Oars oast yesterday, at eleven o'clock, in one of the Committee-rooms of the House. At the fitting of the Committee there were comparatively fe w stranger* present, owing proltably to a rt./tort that the Committee were not to sit till twelve. But anon after that hour the room was etowded to inconvenience, and continued so throughout the 44. Mr. O'Connell sat at the , t.ble a'ong with his Coulee'. Wring parts of the day be sat with his hat on, 3 privilege allowett only to Members. The Canonici for the Petitioners were Mr. Hudson, Mr. Adam, sod Mr. Doherty, an Irish Itarriater. Theta for Mr. o J'ContieU were Mr. V Po:Lick, Mr. Alderson, Mr. C. Phillips, sod Mr. Leuch, of the Choicely liar. Mr. W•Lasirscsv. the clerk of the Cootailitee, read the petition against the return of Mr. O'Comiell, which set forth that au the hustings he (Mr. rot.nell) said be was "a 'lnman Catholic, anti would to continue to the mid of his lik;" that he would neer take the oaths," &c. It also detailed the placards —acts at in timidation—commands of " vote for year religion." &e. • Mr. Hottentot asked whether it was tripe*, mired(' thethewhole of the petition? All the allegation" were abandonedcusps that as to the eligibility of Alt. 0'0)111;01. The %sestina, hi feu, re. ' duced bomb to a question of law. The Ominous, after consulting with the Committee, acquiesced. Mr. HARRISON thin said, that he had made a pm/p.*4llmi to the Couneel of Ilr. O'Connell. He was instructed to taamit, that Mr. O'Connell was ineligible to alt as a Member, and there , fore to be elected. Ile had consequently to urge on the Com mittee to Insect the inquiry brat to be made, *bemire Mr. O'Coo. aeU was eligible It' that question w.. 1 decided tgalost him, wel t decision would close his case, fur all depended on that question. He quoted several cases front Douglass &pork" and Elective Law, to show that the Committee, where there were metal points of inquiry, had frequzutly decided that the material point, whether of LAM or otherwise. .houtti be fits' settled. It would materially save the labour of the Committee if this course ware pursued. The only question he and bit friends bad to raise was, whether Mr. O'Connell was eligible? If Mr. O'Conuell wenrocit _ cligib:r, then it retuaine4 tor him to show that %lr. tiCulioell was • Roman Caiholic--that the fact was notorious—semi that the elec• two proceeded on the noun lety of suzb t .ct. Mr. ADAM spoke to the like effect, observing. that bv the Coin. name coming to such decision, the tour 'stooks be materially saved. Mr. F. n.LI.OIIE, on the part of Mr IrCetim.l, complaineila being taken somewhat by surprise, and of the want of c.fortesy is its not having been communicated to him what course would bs pursued. His Learned Friend hoi chosen :o assume that Mr. O'Connell was a Roman Catholic ; add on rho watt to be raised a dry abstract question of LAW, without any knowledge of the tams ton which that harreu qmstion V/2.1 to be raised. There was new too. pronounced—that klr. 0 Co u ncil being a Roman Catholic, as was assumed, was ineligible tube elected. But' Roman Catholk" ...be had read all tint Acts, and hatter where found the words, as to whether a " Roman Cat Itithe".was eligible or itte{igible. What was aesint by " Rimian . Catholic?" Mr. Hainaut-:-We I, I will not quarrel about terms; 1 mean Papist. /dr. F. Pot-take admitted that there were certan barriers to protect the representation ; anti that the Committee could decide by what course they would pursue ,the inquiry; but he implored aloe eu nun ittei to allow hip to hear the facts to which they in. tended to apply the alleged law, before they were called un to argie an abstract question of law. Let the facts drat be stated. - Mr. Mammy tolloweil on the same side. He adnotted when there were different points it was convenient to 'epees(' theobjects of Investigation, and complained of the unfainsess el being jest. and unexpectedly, required to argue a dry question straw,. Mr. Hattattou begged to observe that he had mew DO Instal& Ann ; that he had pursued the moil course in electinesseese • sod that during 26 years practice before Cuennotte,Bketieit Cosiinstes tees he bad never given the, previous notice now complained of as not having been given. Ile thought it was by fae the but counts to settle this question first. If he were tbrowu upon the proofehe would appeal to the notoriety of the fact, and to the repeated des elarations of Mr. O'Connell, that. be nog wily was a -Roman Ca. tholic or Papist, but that be would ewer continue such. Lord W. Bosom. desired . Mr. Harrison to say, in distinct terms, what. wa's his prOpositimi. Jr. Ha austiat—lt is this—that Mr. O'Connell, being a Ronne Catholic, or Papist, was ineligible to be elected. to be roturactiose to sit. The COmmittee then desired the room. to be cleared. After about ten Minutes consultation, the Counsel and Agents were re.admittetL Lord W. lidsead.then.said—" As Chairman. I am desired to • inform you that the Committee are of opinion the Counsel fur the petition sh ould Arm proceed to * prove the fact." • Mr. Hammon— That is, to rove the whole of my case. The Camanao —Yes, the whole fasts of your cases• Mr. fLtasitsos then rose for sua•porpose.• He be. gars bynb.erving, that he should litre to trespass at greatlength, by gist stating the law of the ease, the several..atatutes passed to exclude Papists flee the Houses lot—Parliararenu—namely, sth Elisabeth, 34 'Jarne; .-- talth haws - I 30th. Charles 1. and lat William and Matz.. Ttiey !repined the oaths of allegiance and "supternaky'first to be taken before the Lord Steward, or his deptitt*, and then in the House, with the Speaker in the Chair. That eor.rse continued down to the pte- Sent time. The lst of William and Mary particularly described the former oaths, the modes of taking them, and again enacted that • they should still continue to be taken in such manner, and none other. Tesis was requisite to be enforced by ti e conveaion of Par liament, because the Di - swifter' w iuld .nit take the oath of supremacy any more than the Papists or Email . Catholics; for the• one said that Cinder was the head of the ChurclT, as the Papists declared the, Pope to be. The first Act of William and Mary • was the only Act 'that atipliCd to the case, though others had been ieferieJ to—he meant by .the Gehtlemais against whom he mentioned. He did not know how to add' e.s that Gentleman ; he was not the citing Meows her, because he had not appeared to take his teat; be did not like to call hint the " frasiking" Member, as some had ter med him ; lie would therefore style bins by ■ term that was well knowo and much used in lre• land , —the M mutat" Member fir Clare—and that would be equelly applicable after Mr. Vesey Fitzgerald shwa have taken his seat for Clare —(A laugh). He coo. tended that, next to the laws existing, the constant prate- We of the laws was the strongest proof. No mat errs dreamed that unnecessary paths had been takea, till the titular Member for Clare came with his new light; bip he maintained that the Ist of William, c. 8, was the governing statute, and referred to by the Ist of George I. the 6th of George 111. c. 53, as well as the' ct tif Union, recognised it. The forms of oaths were tile settled. and so continued down to the present time. [Mr. Harrison argued the point at great length, ceattiOg the several clauses of the different Acts.]—But it war said that no time was prescribed when the oaths should be taken; this was answered not only by the Acts already nameditut by the 534:1Geti. 11. chap. 20, all which pre scribed that the several. oaths, Sic. must be taken " before they can sit or vote." Then, unless the Mem ber, skean he might be, intended not to go into the House —be spoke seriously--nnlesshVdesired toenails's the . 4 ' titular" or 48 franking * Member—the Measba must take the oaths " bekire' be took the seat, end Voted. , -Unless he read. the Acts, it would hardly be believed - that a barrister who ought to have known bet, ter, could have niserfed in print, the pamphlets having been most indistriously circulated, that " no lime" w as specified to bio4d asserl ' the Union. 1 39 and 40 ( that they ill ration as di laws, neer on the cunt of oaths, & doctrine he surd. And mentioned, Goo. 111. c. Papists or R then procee construction . - Bible to sot, himself to be ter of notorit to be returne all intents an, sion of his a return of the • cettificate fic I•eland, sit Roman Cat& ing declared Mr. POLLC ceiwed w ith II had no right that on that g could be recei particular cal dance; for in notoriously a tact, and app and in the pi 4 .he was bound would be irsey admitted as sr grAr.l to him Alderbon, the baptism, and sister would easy of the a the age, beta gazer the fact -manner an en Sheriff was t ceiv-d as evi.: Mr. HARM 40 state, in hi peculiar case, have received addition Mini to the ease wl try of the Cli be legally rec "know the tact Mr. Pula.° test be put ti would at t►nct a►oat. Maw. k of the affidavil how could he After some ter sere were faded On the return that the doeunter reading was not t contents. The document Colonel Flu that he had he that theJteehr Vesey Fitsget taking his seat tbeCstliolicle to sorer it ag IVIr. Otonnei take any such On his cow that Mr. O'Cor 111 C . tt ii.ocesbary ilittbs,....that hi Mr. Dam IL mhos ad Mr. 0 .- la his eress-ei )Jr. O'Connell's to tilts the oaths In sower to a lad not espreser plied, that no dm tie return was ft Pal 'depth; an .--Certainly it OM Mr. aso k u os part of his easel. Thu CIIAILIGIN It stook' be idyls Adjourned /ea Titio; THE Plt ICS Dault Stock Shut 3 vier Creit. lard. 3 pa Ct. 116 rer Cron. Ss per Crnt. 4 yet Ct. tic... 10 4 i rr Cent I.s4ig Ann. Shut issJia Stock • roux Beasikan MU. S pC Hu. Acct. 61 (..5e...1 Lib 6 411.1400t!s, I Mt 4, Do Acct. lay ANIJ A slo Ilezieso 13.4.m0s h. tziisati Ohre National Coiumbian Al!mace Willa* an This day is Con.titu of the nation, al volution of 168 of measures whi &V HIROO° ow vein witness the appeared to post which andoubte the confidence of leading Membe on irhich their s the :molt most I shall long base t which befell a ti for make a sisal -.-