Star. — London, England, 1829-02-11 00:00:00

naintenance of Flee. that this Cathoflc Associ t; on Id at once And fir ever cease to exist. Sir, my con. ice that /-shall receive ready. al/mission r-ho w i oer id mat be the opinions as to tie cause of the esil, the existence of the cw incr. 's ,. Ailuo•toon is i ncr . ' . ilewittrthe iphiraricinatuterif theßritish constitutil,o. opt, me from the painful . lit tessky of dwelli ng upon ratios. acu and procesdusgsolabat betty-. au, ant iredingi which nothing ;laid Isstiff. .Hut it jilt b e ' , Wary, as some vindicatidtrof a - Measure I intend to ..ttr yourargiceon - a' fund* bccasionito make some ovations with respect to tire present state of Soctei r rebind; which observations: will at the same• tilde fy the-demand far additional -forte to Winn in to anion: the Bin which , I-mean to propose. • I• shad dor , procee d to give my Honourable-Priendrionia its of thestate of satiety in lrelandowith a view at icing them seriously and deeply .to delibt tate-upon, cor.sidcr not merely whethatradditional p owers: a y issaryto the Legislature, but whether theft remain .cheoc.., mites. itimething.slecisive be ' detriarvined ao tit, tweaking up the present state of things to a nd,p . 1. c h.,11 give those • details, for the poi. Ai ladies them to consiger whether there be the nest prospect et restoring permanent peace and pelity to that-country, if the Government of this sty suffer thinire.to remain in -the sloe in whict r have so lhng existed. li the House of Commons the House of Lords come to a diffeient csincloreorr. sthe Csthol c Queition—ontl if we .er e again- to pry One year to year dif f ering upOrs thwdeepta h i r e _ *subject -brith sides' -nosey' hafsricell4.ime side ' , strong ,enough to esertiie its controol.- r wlih - pic. so nearly disided that. at one time there shall. be a inky ,•of .xis on nee, side,• and• at. another tim e .a orityof ft tar on the other—and while irg per•evtre .coarse rhiett for cle last 16 years we hsve been ifs . 'olffly puyturingr-1 ask; what choice is. there of sp ipiktrapqpi lity.to4rel*nd or of ensuring her safety ? y there is none; and 1 alsoisaysisuch is the nature of the ',that some one njust beealled Upbn to rhaftesacrifices. titaY;bir, declare it to be ohr opinion, that -we 404 mum •the course we have hitherto•pursus.d; bus I er in ray life spoke fiom more perfect cinviction limy, thatif weds smattaire shall not consult- the interests df our country, and, above all, that we I not maintain the security of the Protestant con tihn, or 9016114'6.e stifetyyPiherroiestietChurch. gir;lie,cause l Teel itiii-rsit is because 4 ,fe• 140 e . to the pet, and, *via, aeany ituto--can do, ' rig into the` I uturk'ititi• perceiving , thsc , pArries . ' vtieluillly 'balanced.' and f.elioglieMiitle Wei nue me likely to remain so-..-1 fe . ,ss koor Artist ,Act nor pike place, a . yig antic f0r...1.-will asiud of Our divisions,' and be sypetior Id ni b . .th.siiis, tip'fiseire the Protespeliitei istylStie 04'44 that iipo4'certaidtliangei to.t elle prate s kcf••l it :doing Huse and the'country may lest assured I arm con 'rig Its safety.' I have• nor irliaridohe . d"rtty4iipvninn., have changea my . cirttrie;,an,ol',l . itiVii • keil I - p . - ' - 'the • . --- isl , ' lh asamc- wavers, ....1, . .!••••• ••7 II ~,,,,„,. ~" -:" 7,77 - 1 -- 9 -'7 I 0..6 CP . 9ter; . s as . t props.,, ,j4ti . .ilje. aditattage,.'olche • set /et Church and the• Protestant Condietstion— r ioi l r; heel, - If differences of opinion (1;4 - ifi . ono. ra d e parties, those ItertieiTart:deitlyt; that lfed; lifis the twilit WI, the question theiesponie..iiiikutcel.4totred film blic opinion .. That% Italapete-Motisersfeatz eird t ;. they terty• the; if .we-are-ealled,optoi trwlper!* . vtwer in but I inning the state of •freland as it dtiiikit'jtklftell tend uniting „a tour., mon . p.rfjl3 . 4.isipL47,9kii,. 45_1. ... stint • est distresting 10 . tgastitlio4l.4.tgit-ss.t.o Uut!ch Il6u the safety of the Constitutipret.•-•4l.rere.;eiment I ,hesic :['• acts. We'mnst• Jitclite Intl • niteetiireirAid-:We la t 01 denythat int:kr/leg ost:ptilplrplasim.:iitAlic 1 a i m tiV;tkittoglhnliSt •IttniiVlta!Pc 4 t4a 4 ffnibttnnstiwg . .1 id a relEtnown bias of.. his:late M•fiest,Ovhirb- pobitc e t i , i eirmifiti convelidatiOnofthelest efiffgretilte Orb t it Wifirdbnd utiirlYintipeltiiSlitOntocurraild. I thi 4 AI - feel' tikii ..-. - - tilittoo +.vilitc ihoold ban ate tog on e obte 4entroaeing subjectot.C.otholic ernancipatiOrr. We t er ) ( 11 Mensbetc that in . 1804 Mre Piev - wiltLe npininn..is pees • tithed,When he foundte,conld not bring Metal. • ..:4111 et in off ice round , to his ife WOE t he cast, ntisgd boa , ' mite I ifndeftee that event, if it had - been-possible tobave LW . nit a - Gosternaseat . wads sheuhl hive agreed Man the Catholic. questiois, .there void, be ntr . douilfi tbp 'i • t wduldbatebeen done. ' SOH, however,'liarkij4 tile the case; and there could *be no question,-that , pkb, •se of the Deceesity which existed of calling in I the 9f-danger all the best energies of the coinftty :bp etlOtti; the tations'Cabinett hid been cothprifeirof sil l s em entertained opposite sentiments ak to the mew. 'era •1. Catholic Emancipation. It was such a *ems- lette At united together- such men as Pitt and Melville, by astlereagh, how varied soever neigh[' be 'their refs • a upon this one topic. If, then, the various gas eve r fins- in time* past were composed of individuals cow mite to their views opow this subject;cia we,Whed k state i ' forward to thefincretezpect any Other tetult4- :%• tenet evittertairt the hope that ..atif administratiOn'. yen mid of one Mind upon this'Aubjeet, and yei.able 'II ex -tech ad vitte to the•Crown.astvbe coustorWmild 'II I 441, llialff idea' With; .14W - tort'seh -iefri‘ieditittandihe • , . • once of ilielintdONlo4Z2t i PtkUitiArAra .) rig" • :. 0 1!StitY, wilAtFP.g.lia.crit4 r:/ . l.lthislposia , and 'high I.maihtintAtimitstibm b. Wellititted,leteene inaal the House end fi my 11bnsTi krill' wiititEtt - to . thaw two Nand which 1 am about to.b!ini.uTyler their notice ~„,„, efeiencoMlliiiie s sept Condition Orlreland,.and , Lae in, lentreAt, give the interval between - the pro- d"'" of the measure which, is now to-lielrOnght on- .. !r u b , r notice"andthit other . measure which will be coey '. # some future per iodo o the Consideration u he- tem ietiediest thatU country - so situated Si Ireland titiOl air il 4imffered to remain as it no* is 1 whether a Go- keen - .! shall continue to bear those trammels which obey • • 'divided councils ; aed whether something can- poi .I done to terminate the unnatural conflict, to ad- ' w balance, to restore peace and prosperity to one 8,,, ito give quiet and satisfaction to another? Sir, [,tit g Wore the House those details which it is now to c utinsubmit to them, lam fully aware of the great t., boa guess to hear them that must inevitably exist; '1 at 0 hertame• time I believe that the deep anxiety y eel every Hop, Member must feel relative to. the ii,et d Illif outweigh every other consideration, and • . ' 1411 i Will not complain of such details havintbeen But e them; it is; Sir, such , details as those Of . on 1 ankalttiet to•present some slight and laver- . th e linens, that have determined me to adopt the ~ ala adduct whisk I mean in future to pursue ;- and - nal .'se will lee .in• those statements the teems. • 401 ! • Unite bte#a inctioeCto think there is mote ' *lv • AtigkelmS-a, sat, atilement of this question ' - a ;hale thought it of-mote advantage and of •t a ""° nictwitylti thi Proiestaniestablisherient into d 6 1 ' .". rlittivffitiughtrifilevent civil commotion by . , air • . se , dtintlay remaining as we were , with it 1 - . °to of pestpbeinttbetmestiorrto an - indefinite pe ).• tdu i suffer theGoberinnent ind the Legidaturelo the I partitistEd'apit ditiffired -- or Mate • than. half Its '-- "la wei Sir, I have extracted from the numerous and . ..., . feu " Ash ioh taus been farnibised to the Gereti- sue 'as tht last Nix imanthi-iind lotAbedli' 'l l ° l4 fealirlt.i. l , o 4etjtalentitmit,o44.itii . ate -Oliinatiliaialy vposi the -gait. Fromilbe the, etomponthitte• of.. sham -nificeesi—duill lay before t o u.certeinilicts•iqe tour ,coasidesition; • they will no i.ge seas ae dal — alarm the "pride of any Honour saloGentionatt as proceeding from Mt - they 'will 'firleithlo-itidrtpeak . fbreiblf to the hearts and the understandings of every individual who is mulched to his country. • Prom the topics I shall now submit toi•yesul oily ask your consideration; I do not as that you shall pow in any way act upon them. I will, then, present to you those detail% first, with reference to the public peace of freland; as having been in imminent danger duriag the last-six months; 2dly, as having reference to the state of society.in Ireland as tegpirds the relations between man and man ; and, &Hy, as respects the interests of those whom, it is confessed en all sides, we are especially bound to cobsider—as respects the interests of the Protestant population of that country. And I conjure you, by the anxiety you feel to consult thetestmeans of preserving their in terests and the tranquillity of Ireland, not to be pre. eipitate in opposing a' measure that may terminate a state of things, the existence of which all persons— too matter of what party, or of what' opinion—mtt.t deplose. Sir, after the conclusion of the last Ses sion of Parliament my conviction was formed as to the. futurecourse I was to puttee. and my mind was made op as to what that course ought to be. It was this, that it bad become absolutely necessary to consider the vrho:e condition of Ireland, with a view to the permanent set- Cement of the qpestioa that:'regarded the civil disabi lities of the Roman, Catholics. Sir, my resolution •was hastenddbytliefacts that have occur red since that period. Will not state that any one of those facts•is of such a nature as 10 alarm any Hon. Gent. with the idea that no means were afforded for preventing such effects as those to which I refer; I will not say any thing has occurred which force could not have put down. We have been, Sir, during . the period to which I allude, and long pre viously to it. at peace with the whole world; hut, be. cause we have been so at peace—ireeause during the Loft four hundred years, there hat weer Leen a time when relations of such perfect amity existed between this country and every other nation of the globe—be. cause the Protestant spirit . of Leland has been called forth by intimidation to intimidate—because they have been ready to sacrifice aught but their honour for the maintenance of. the present state of things--let us not think that for these reasons we ought to persevere in a course which is so obviously evil—let os, while we can, fairly and honourably adopt another—let us not lose the opportunity which those very advantages afford us at the present Moment, of doing that which so many and each powerful circumstances call upon us to do. Sir, the first subject to which I shall call the attention of the Hon., is that which relates to the preservation of the public peace in Ireland; and upon this subject I shall lay before the House certain details which I•have lected from that correspondence whic h has been sub mitted to his Mliesty's Government during the last r ein months. Sir, towards. the-close of the latt simper, dating the month of September, it is noto rious ihat ihole beads of persons, by thousands, pa raded through various pares of the country in a sort of military array. Those assemblies consisted aver ioniser. tiers their 01rifetlras net directly to attack each other ; they were aaattibled for. purposes hardly to be defined; they pitiontesfan array such as no eras could pre tend to treat with contempt .It is better, Sir. that we • kneels IWO/Able truth ; and t hope that the lieu., will pretanif me urge through this eorrespon• dew, to.t'se !scent *bleb' maycooceive necessary.— shail do . se, tow truly . to show how . necessary are the measures lintabont'to prirwk bit in. order to give aniereilo tfe Ovation tha t at has been •so often put tad is it!. what cirearnstaases had indneed ate to evolve it a contlation so .diltsteist from that which %had. heretofore firmed? And heirs / Sir, I would tilitterve, that t have selected the letters I am about !east the House from the correspondent. of 'tool of n 9 side 'ln politics, of no 'colour in party primains who Auseld have had no Possible witha for misleading the Goestament,...hoin per. Ws who toold net have desired to. exaggerate their saaMmeots, or to have enlarged their statements beyond tatunderies of truth. The sum- of Ireland for some no* Peat was such as. to oblige the Government to era ployMegistorates who acted directly under the ordersol Geeerententonat who woo to tbeGoveranseesealy ii.ponsittle. They old, therefore, have had no pose sage object in min-statiog futs, or misleading the Gee verametst by which they were employed. 'The fiat letter I shall rend is one foistraraled to the Government Major Carter. a Geadeasse whose name was en,- iarsally respected in Ireland. and who was knewn t o awry. individual is the Hasse connected with that -.ooatry to be a; distinguished for the veracity of his atensents as for the tolapity of his manners and the tcriersy- of his conduct. This letter is fel lows, . _ dad, er Sept 17, lab-. 41 how the hisser to Want vow, du e i mb no Sunday, the instant, there were: throe pandits ay amemblages of she pea. worry, drevied and strafed govelorly„,m,deserbed is my briber ro parts.karoilt, vb. at Templensoci a amientins adbalsasitrit, buerman throe and four thomansicavalry airtiofarstxy, having dtions.iktr - , and Wooers, and weeded by Aunt ten thistimad people, tbe-nta joilifistrying grams birmehosi. as rdSatando.trattallits hem*, reen.bundred cavalry pod issfantry,accomparilad by about via thou sand artrodants, with green boughs; and at Caber about the same aumbeer. No dirsorieost occurnat assays* boss messings. They h a re been generally addressed by some ii.fluential person of their darn claw, who, alter alluding in violent language to their political disabilities; sod desiring them so motheuesrandad los the malamute of . their object, this notonimended them to relinquish old fey*, oey the laws and ihtt render the interfere/sae of the police unite enemy. Salim* she meal appsarsoca of diare assendriages is ridiculous, pa they rennet be deemed corstompdble, because *V ie in direct opposition to the admonitions of the Priests, Sr :relle.f' of respectable firosess of their persuasion, swim Meg gad *y cannot re swain or prohibit this display of a form mosboild ley pri.hee and encouragin g amoftst them the wont of characters. Gwesory. . fee. rne.Sr.e. , rbetievethere is no one who, daring this manila cion*of physical strength—a force arrayed on one side controol a force arrayed on the other—could deep ,• painful it would 'have been to have been cellid ,on to have pot down insurrection by the natural ester. ;tea ti the country. What', then, wits the consequent*, these dereionstradons I/ "ewer in the south of Ire land? Was it that they alarmed the Government/ No. It eniy eilleJ for and had - a &maturation of power the peat of ar - Proteasaft‘ Our fear was, not that tote OrbeisiMeat Was in danger, but oar fear was, that people. natives of the mune country, subjects of be same •Ciown, and differing unly in creed, should not ily appear but act in bast& array, the one a the the?: I will presently read a letter from Gets i ,a Gent titan well known, and, it is scarcely (Sough see, highly respected by all who are emulated with those diAnets of Ireland is which be has awls sod lir, We perceive b y his sewage that the most perfect tiler and sobriety prevailid'aMong Otis pIIPPIIO44 I Oe. etude. It would seem somewhat strange to object to them tkit .order sod tob f i rt y did prevail: hot 'repast clllO4 l ll this verf fon iooc•iir• f# the atop ,elicite , ' teen tbstswisso sn tbair iniadh and gF ih* estrtrotld which bad hues eamossol saw their passions, each as arishrhaveeetlviede fewsg s tmokiimmmsii. ewe to have shapeostme to the *PS Se e 4 them. OW, momesseepe Was lost—it wig .re-1 solved to 801P7fP8 thew del l Pnitrations, ifateCes.talls by li r e., and no doubt by totes they . cottld, bale pen sokbresi# 4 ;g4 l e4-40 1 4 :14 4 what would bere , been the .cessequence7 air -Hon. Friend. I will still cell him so, exclaims "hear ;".and I will tell him, and .1 will tell the Wyse, what the consequeneei 4 writild hate been. I ask, then, of him and of the House this VW. ' tion—when our force had bees soccessfal o wbtre Amid we have been ?--(Hear.) To be sure we should hive used force; to be sure we should have vindicated the law, and have proved its power; to be sure we should have succeeded; but might not our very success have laid the foundation of fresh efforts—might not a neces sity have arisen for again using other and greater force? A Proclamation, Sir, it is known, was then issued, which declared that any meeting acting in concert in any past of the kingdom should be immediately put down.— Fortunately the Proclamation of the Lord Lieutenant was obeyed ; and let any man consider how small a .spark was necessary to raise the flame of civil discord throughout the country, and he must then rejoice that the employment *of force had not been considered ne cessary--(Her,). These, he contended, were legitimate grounds upon which the boldest man, aright apprehend danger to the public tranquillity. This was the opiainik - of •General-Tliornton, one of the bravest of the brave, and other °Seers whose acts of valour bad been so nu merous and brilliant, that to specify any Part of them would be an injustice to the rest. Thete were the words in which General Thornon expressed his apprehension of the danger— • Armagh, Sept. 28, ISIS. •Mt Lem—lt is but fair is me to confess that !purposely used' such language, with the view of better securing the ardent co-opera. tints of that Gentleman, to prevent, on the part of the Roman Ca. thelics, any breach of the peace at Monaghan. knowing as I did how highly their feelings bad been excited on the cold 'instant by their having been disappointed in their intentican . of proceed's& in precession through the town of Ballibay, and uncertaimas I was of. the degree to which their- Irritation had been increased by the casualties which unfortunately occurred to two of thelepirsuatiots on the night of that day. • It therefore appeared to me to be my paramount duty to use any and every means in my pester to prevent a collisinn . between the two parties, from which a Suite would have inevitably arisen, and 'acceded itself to a limit beyond the possibility of conjecture; as the Lieut. Gomm* is aware that there was nn adequate military force at hand, which in such a cue could have been interposed, as its total ammme at the three posts of Armagh. Monaghan, and Moos, biskralkis the gaol guards at the two first -mentloned places, eat amsranted to about one hundred rank and fik ; nor was there aeother solder to be obtained at Monaghan beyond that number, hatene dim Irons a dhantee of Wear y -five miles. I have est boson; to he, &e. (&god) was. TMURNTON, Major Gm. Now, Sir, of the consequenceh that might have fol lowed the collision, as far as the power of the country was concerned, General Thornton could have had no apprehension; but barbed that honest, that legitimate apprehension, which led him to dead that inhabitants of the same countrt, that subjects of the tame King, .tbould be involved in all the horrors 4 civil war--a war is which success would be destruction—(Hear.) That apprehension, Sir, every good - man ought, nay. stay good man ought, to encourage. New. Sir, so such for the danger to• the public peace of. Ireland. Lot. us now. look to that country with reference to its abet-relations, and-1 confess this portion of the subject thiells upon my mind. I allude to thepre,ent state of. sec4ety in Ireland as regards the Protertat portion of 'that counuy, and I ask you of such a. Age of things 40411 bop been suffered to endure? I will now reed AO .71111". letter wtitten by General Thornton to Lord; lirettion.Gower .'.71 7- .7- • • •silyntagis, dept. 30, 1821, half past ftusr.• clock p.m. • Mr Lisago.-IWitli reference to My letter of yesterday. I beg to lelogOk your Lordship, for the information of 'the Lientenant. Appal C.ommihding, that. in the envie,. of last lee*** Akit.s o - • secgrtained to a eertitnti.thw . .ited ne anuesWg berp tbia'dity, and, in eonsequinee, seo off :olo!noollikiltiOst to ilsel effect to terry geigbilpuriaLtown or tteM!Pensed to have any leading influence.aniong the Prawn . . In prevent their proposed aseeMbly. here to4if 4 that - multitrdlbaas crowd which was espeetvd; but noterkbetattAing.all the_ precautions taken fur •chit purpose, and the stow wailers prevented from coming here, I am informed by that Sovereign that shoot 20.0Q 0 imat marched in, which they did in maple dip. visions, according to the, directions from whence they came t with 'drugs and Ales, some few Lip, many with orange aqd other: Wdonred ribbons, and loge . proporden . uf then% with Are Wins pod other weapons. The great body of them, however, have now left the town s their return hum, and no doubt is eatertgined that the day Will pus over without any serious outrage being committed. • The tire . companies of the 56th regiment Wended for Newry, *MA were. bolted here this day, will accordingly proceed to diets destination tis•morrOw. have, _ &c. . . . • • . . (161W 41 ) . W.N. THORNTON, Major Generii . Row, or, what is the reason of this.? It hiay be adults the law. But I know of no law that 'mild . apply *remedy to sec& a case. It is impossible to try mind to conceive any. I know not,in time present stair of things, what legal remedy could' have been supplied. t will draw your emotion to another letter: It is as laDosts."— Clasher, Doc. WI, I SU: 10.4 hew the honour to inclose you a copy of an canonisation easerebefeerehe Meets* rates at briber PettrSeesione ea shit day, which caw becoesehoratord by the testimony of pron.ahly fifty ether $ rittifiel. • 7 1 1:: bil le to' impala& you that party feeling hawincreased•considers. Me is the misread vicinity of bushes.. in this 'Ueda, and basset' atemed rich a formidable apperrance as to cause a dread of the most alarming esosetiortre to the peaceable and- well.dispotied hableanta of that neighbourhood. - I am further to acquaint you that. en the day mentiemod la the examination% tbevearma a fair held at Augher, on which occasion !amenable/ all the men of my district for the purpost.oi keeping ardor bait, andemmorded is.doine so, and by the direction of the alagientates (pertisonty received) I cleared every person- out Of the pub* honeys, toed had chain dosed up by Iva o'clock, when-ill was refsally traimpeil; and I can almost say that not as individual, omens the inhabitants of the town, remained in it alter that host. lam to add Mae the party wh ich entered Aegher at eight o'clock. !hunt gut bandied in number, came from the neighbourhood of Them*, in fee on the mountainous borders of the county of Ma seshin, and wise, I sedermani. all Roman Catholics ; they cried rim* fat ever! thegt a toar own." The inhabitants = Own wok Om from their to dder them out of the town, end I am informed imsetied !tinny of them, none of whom or their fileglia• ha,. at MOMS forward to make any statement respecting the matter. Iniellloweee of the attack on Ampler having reached slf din PlialtiMant potty in the neighbourhood, they, I am in. km* want in towards emirates for the purpose of supporting their Mods in the lawn, but. the party who entered early is the efalitisid wind, the meter waded. (Signed) --- Jima, Shy,s we, as hooest men, feel aught but dis may at the costemplation of such a state of things? I sop then, my Honourable Friends cannot be surprised 11, hhir having Ink it my duty continually during the last tin niontbs to peruse such documents as those of whielti have reed a few specimens to the House, 'have arrived at the conclusion that it is far better to attempt •most settlement to the question than to leave things as Owfli/es Jet 011. DOW, Sir, consider the cue of those who are tesident in that country, and let us consider it with vektenot to tie exietence of a civil war is Ireland; and, in particular, let us revert to the situation of those who !Oak in, aOnyi of the remote districts of that coun try.; and, Sr ti in this siew of the case I may hold moat bound to think that I ant consulting their inte icy!, by scoiding the continuation of resistance to this, -mesa : pre. Take as a specimen, Sir, of the rate of thing; to which A tea the following commune 'don: November 6, 1125. asser•l hare to report that lest night threatening notices was posted up on the boom of and an other places on the town landa(which are aituatpd within a mile and a half of this post), • no person to attempt working. for " the accursed as oshorwisof thdy should. ttrireated with the utmost severity. - The sagespessce is, the geetleman, who is catenates In fanning, le • a by au his weeklifsts why diel regret tau quid be afraid their haws would be eumumed, or some other harm kap ! jewaiolwiasulaie44ltelmtereildiat thry-myt "r Kelm C4p takraleh."J Mr enly•amme -time arse! sesigned 'kr tide ea*. dee Symons being acted •opee is, thin boil isethst'some days ago attended a Ilrancwick Chikisseetipg. and coronet' himself a nsesehet diebeeN But ii thievonariamemion 'a $ some idea of the lute of Rh* .cOmmtty. how laugh ROMe fmeiblY is the picturs.dtavra by tbm following-. .. liweember 10.1.!0. - Tile .0001500 t tallpallt 00 which I am new subject bargee. memo! nse•t . kw year information. the usual re past dearest* preceding amath. The enciseed de.. telielikoslo ntimenerenees exhibk several imams' et agile houghed, these Ala cases of arms taken, six threatening ellielle. war dwuii leeelleds toeneeo houses attacked, five per. sum smelted. teas (*cattle "toles. one heresy only in the coo*, his free from crime. Two curs of decided nuisance to the su4 l ary process of the law in civil nutters of property obliged ? les Sheriff to DM .out the military, to ceujitnctioe with the ; the first stair at .......a..., on the 30th uldise. where etteh4ll4 Ilia WA* .sblettirelke and sizty regular infantry. Us Ate 1100401 k MOW', and pence force. accompanied by a alalil.ralo. Abatis* Wematradon. having Wee received of the dmimnabotitm of the pementry to mist with arms the Mari/ !Oa had bees forced to relined* a former attempt to woo" an babas on dame lands, and, on the sixth lastest. the. Sheri* was called up* .by writ of &selenium to protect with nalikarf. &c. a reviver from the Coen of Chancery, etlin bed boon threatened and forced to fly front some neighbouring 4444 when eodeseourieg . to distrain for rent. Ste. under a decree at Court ; forty military were brought to support the police as We duty, and la both. then cases the *grit folly succeeded, from the awe pro duced by the forces employed. The aulmosity encliedegainst thole who have joined erunierick glob* still prevails. Surphdoo at heinoeing to - suck a iociety is silleknt to predate insult to the higher, sad team of etopleypesyt to the knew orders. Reeona meaditions fer evlosive de are privately and publicly diasit. initiated. and thus invidious distinctions are fomented bet/teen. Protestants aid Roman Catholics. In the barmy of—. an the 31141 ult. the moaner entploYed br the —. were compelled by a body of 500 Mpg to Wive his potato'. digging; the nose toady dictated dallier laws to the workmen en gaged by threedilkseut Protestant 'Oeutlemen In the same remote part °Abe county, and same &acuity in geocaring potatoe diggers • has been eiperieneed by ether Protestants. But I trust the disere don of the Priests (who have palillakeil their disapprobation Klock combloatious, la the address circulated by them in .-....., on the tenth tili.• a copy, of. which I have tranesoitted) will correct this moo atonal/IAL . I•oss W to believe tbe di,Wwyet wishes hate beedrols, with .olicsnialkll paeinattors" awl lasselattess," is proceeding; but anweira the vigilases of many hisigioseies is &mien attsetively to sech.preeradiego anti the traterelandilltotais of the country. • - 04E 81 0 •w • • • Now, Sir,' if these desetiptiont' do not manifest to every one. who hears .theny . thrtther'e exists an absolute •nicessity for: making out some damage in the esistiog •billle of things do not•hosow what proof of stich a necessitycould - be required. 'They are, however.trifling compar:d with the saris of such iptisrm,ition Which has b e en comeouttigatg l i G.overothent by the lacers em ployed by Government within theJast sit atomise. The fear arising from the conduct of -one party is the only c.ause assighed ter the 'Cetinje, system adopted by the other. A Gentleman, wbosi cake I. bring forward as an instance, ssidthathe attended a Brunswick Club,which he would not bag* attended had it not .been' for prece dent psoviseatim. Wets the country yafe from ,antes •Ittapj it.WOUlsi r leases theapprehension of future danger. In the. insane kisses new adduced, though Ms:Gentle.. madelife was not in denser, and though there was n*. thing: positive for the law to lake hold of, still theari ,was ground of. Aura from the, workmen. acting ender' the influence of that enticement.- There is another - case detailed in a letter, dated the let of November, ad. dressed toMajorWittlairton,sod subsequently forwarded with other docuatinti to. the Home Offise.,Here the Right Hon. Gent. read the following letters-- . : • •fillts ." • - • . Novionner,. . ham WAR MUM of receiving your Warr. amain etie*ln_lall s , emm•-troaNetl yesteaday. and, front the in. font*. I reeedmipm weal..awtrons. my personal °lnanition, I regettita ash Ne...seses wpm* is two, true. tle has a number ,uf Rom, I sla soolos, • mph ekhon4h they hoe ao km*, ,sod. kawalieg4m ma aspoesens.am whatever be piny* they as ham radasestne„ walk for. bias.- Ho mid we If tber-perse- Owed he Ve . apokagegastea d to tam. every. one . of Mem .out, and t o mad for Pratt:awn wow& I rgasonotiwishhim.oo this subject, and sold him I thatight.it world be a very lasprusion:proceediog at tisis tippoeben the Mind. otthe people wets ip such a state of .feentantatiam. 4* seamiest teepee in optingn mak ate, and said if 'wires (dinged to haw rap/Atm : to. such harsh measures It wooki, by with much reittetasera..but h e sa w Dood l er alternative left. Ice shoal ) ! either stn tbatoi. Imes the country. , • • • la abort, Sir. it raml4,4 ;lawn impostibk to give a fulletatement of the unfortunate mete of stairs in this nei l iblaumrhoud, Until; some' measures are taken to reconcile those party feelingswhicip at present mist,to such an Wirmingdegree, I would must eantestly mod respectfully suggest the nmenity of augmenting, the putice epit o me at that constan t patrol• wosid Go • kept up both by day maiden fot nine tinte r 'total thi violent tarty recline shall sobeithr ' • ' • * ,• • • • ft would be a mat fortunate circumstance kir both patties if a recon ciliation could be erected ; for so viol e nt As the feeling existing at present that a Freak* could bet go it mile from his own dw e lling without runuing tap risk tepersunkl fiviesice ur whips !oleo( We; and, en the other hand, if the Cattolits vivre liteMlly famishing they_wbuld hoe work a day tot a t rotestant. I have;lkc,' (Signed) • November I, hem the hamar to inclose a report from Mr. ▪ detailing the state of 'public feeling in the neighbourhood of I shall write insn'adiately to him to try every possible means to mimic& the parties. I fear, boneesr, it is hopeless, and that the rieltentent will rather increase as the winter advances; the respite there very seldom homeauch agricultural labour durhig t. winter, sal are so far lodependesit,of theft employers, apt* liberty to show bosdiky. ▪ stapeee.ro toggi s iiii, to increase the pallet • teem I redly have sot the power, Svitionn snipping wher•stathdi. Or aatladrawlng them altogether; unless a strung Tonal wss whig they would' be inefeenal : and to send such :mien only camper other district:ens tihmetiarce, by withdrawing thrown- from than. I request the homer of'hia instructioseowathis point. •• • I have, Ste. ' (feigned), ,t, • The Lord W. i. Gower, etc Ile. I shall read no More hrthese documents, which I have refetrettn • es. spe4ioont ig Abe correspoodence trans mitted tn.ttor Hoollit.Deiyatirmint troth. Ira .nsl during the. last fon* inma4t..-Whers I considered the state of. the public trancleillky...thecharac ter of - the intercourse beta ems man and men ittthai country, and tin/1413M of the Piotestantt t/Mbssettes-4I or n that the daily re mise:ice of Mese thrinmuniclitions made .a deep its-' premien on my mind. It was impossible to see the diseased state of society in hared wirhrut feeling a wish to devil some remedy. I have entered into details establishing the fact; and I entreat my Honour able Friends to weigh well what prospect of improve. area thee is in the adoption of the prepaid measure. • I bum that there are some who entertain the opinion that the desirable end might be accoini• plisbed by putting. doWn the Cathrilic Association, and disfranchising the forty-shilling freeholders alone, without granting concessions; but 1 rsk of Honourable Gentlemen if, in the present state of this Huuse. they can perceive any hope of. such measures being carried ? ar(Hear), I also knew that there are those who my that they might be carried, provided the eyes of the tOitatry were opened to the 'real state of the case, and the authority of Government gives to.thit course of pro cedisre;.brat I pot it to them-to 'declare if an honest mad oPestid - folio* this course, satisfied that it,woold fail if tettptio-the tea of experiment, even supposing the power set aublnitting it to that test were attaihabk:,,,Tbe clues. ition involves far higher objects- than personal consist ency, otthe hope of applame, or the-tear of 'censure-.: and when'l vie* the state: of Ireland —the general spirit ,of disunion—above all, when I loOk to timaidity of the' •pe o cestenrChurch, I cannot think of isainging forward.. propositions which I-know worildfailaThecletailsl have , entered into are not brought-for Wit.l 'likely forth, put. .pose of Government demanding iteater.poWeit, bat 14 show also that it is tow adellible.to grant the. WOW dicta use of eztrattedinarypowee• Jetheechan that thine should c Atinue as they gens',..lathatevei is the opirtift as ti the Catholic Association, and whatever is the dif fetenee cf sentioient on the genet al question. I entreat tie House town) theGnvernment with solficiect power to prevent the necessity of having recourse to military interference. The only task that now remains for one Is to explsin the nature of the measure I shall submit to the House. It is necessary. in the fit t place, to pia• pose a measure foe suppressing the Catholic Association, 'and to interdict the meeting of its Members, in ;Se ;capacity of Members, and, in addition, to add peel. ,dons for carrying the intentions of the I.ggidature fully into effect, and to prevent the 'access (AC shifts similar to those that have been beretoftre use 4 to evade those intentions. Theobjegt of the Legislating in ' past enactments has been defy • d credit has been taken for the defeat; and the inie , odo so again has been abeade signified. It istiisii . y better 0)4) nufa vit nothing than to propose that whieb is likely to Of de feated; sad it remains to.be considered what cotuse is best calculated to carry the measureirro , liar witholit increasing the esil. The intention of the Act of the year 1825 was to prohibit the meetings of the C itholic Association and other assemblies by mpg e f t enactment's but the enactments were so wide and general that thee went beyond the object of the Legisla ore; And it be came necessary, therefore, to make escepti•tos„, saving ihe right to meet for the purposes of religion, science. sgriculture, mid other lawful aolproper purposes.... AJvantage was taken of these exceptions ; the inteutions of the Legislature were . gtadisolly defeated, and the Act was made to serve purposes which were not e• a templated by the law. bet which were actually accom plished under its proteCtion. There is one cm elusive reason for not resorting to the same course at present,• namely. that to render die measure effectual, it.is clear that it must be more binding than the law of 1825. The interdiction must be more complete, the esseptions more excepting. Idi not know that it is possible to frame such a statute as is requisite, so as not to expose the provisions of the law to being interacted in 4 manner not contemplates by the . Legislature. If it were asked what law shoul i f be 'tamed for sup. pressing the Catholic Association ?'I could not find a satisfactory answer. Were a law passed prohibiting every political meeting, meetings would he heldundee other pretences; and it its provisions were extended to these. it could not be .p issed without enf 'tying ohj•cte different from the intentions of the Legislature. Uider these citcurnstinces, it is my opinion that it is Wei and better to meet the d .tiger at once, and ty depart from the general principle, by opposing an effectual barrier to in. dividual purpose. With this impression I promise tO coma mit the sole power of. act iou to one. l.propose to4ommit it to him who hasthe c•i judgment of the stated affairs,- who is responsible for the state of tl e count) y—tii him alone—to the Lord Lieut.: of Leland I propose tecommit the power of suppressing any assembly that he Joie think dangerous to the public peace, by virtue t f a law intero dictiog the Meeting of any assembly likely .to be tlana serous. This law will not enable any ot'er indivjduil whatever to act upon it. If it be found necessery to enforce its protium...it will enable the Laid Lieutenant to select two Magistrates for that purpose,. and it, will requite the patties included in the intention it it to.dis• pew imoredively. The law• will like* ise .interdict 'the receipt of any monies, whether no 'er the name iii rent or otherwise, collected by or through. the agenty of the Association, stipPressed by this:Acts In adopting this course, moderate penalties will be OffiCient. l consider it not necessary to propose, any measure (if a determined nature—(flear, bear. Ikea). I feel asso,e.d that if greater powers be required, P 4414- ment will heire no hesitation in granting .an i. eses•e I but I am convinced these will be less hesitation in giving that increase if the public peace be endaligeted. alter . the contemirlated adjustment of 'the question has taken 'Frlice(lfeat). an adjustment framed sows sa l remove every reason Able cause of complaint on the pan i f she Roman Catholics, and to provide for the safety of Its Protestants. Ido not propose to extend this 'AO irk ii, • topg term-not so long as the lasi.' I propose is tithe it for the period °hone year, and for wlsateser time may c•ceur between the end of the year and the next Sessions. With this period lam contented. As to ihe chavicter of the measure, I consider it less dangerous as a pi etc dent because it departs from the ordinary foams. and i., therefore, leas likety to creep in or be continued esthetic due examination. In attempting to been t! c duty Which has devolved upon me I'have been guided, first, by a wish to demonstrate the necessity of the intended measure, and to justify the upped I hive maJe; Mkt in the second place, to do this in such a manner as to assist the atm meat of that great ohject which will shortly be brought under the coasidesatioa of :he House—f Hear, bra ). • - •. The SPILAILER having put the question, Lord ALTHOIIP said,' bewas happy to hear . ,the manner in which this Bill.bad been breu . ;ht forward by the Rt. Hon Gentleman.; be should give it•his support, as hr considered it iely ()separator/ 'to tie final settle. ment of she vest question of Cithelic Ertiancipation ; on this ground, and this only, be supposted the mea sure. He hai long thought e.ere was no safety wi:ls out concession; her was now mire than ever convinced. He should not object to the nogiom because ulterior measures were promised; and bewas glad the powers were to be entrusted to the Lord Lisutesant l and not to soy Magistrates—(Heart. As.the CatholieEinaireipo. ' • tioo was the ulterior object, I e repeated, hetiadly coo.. wilted to this question. • . •A, Mr. V. STU ART - said, he had become a Member of the Association-(A laogb)o-because he thought too many of his countrymen were deprived of their jag • sights; he should consent to the tnotton t as Em swipe. tion was the ulterior object. Without it all leralation would be vain; and he gave no opposition to the 1411, deeming 'die Government now pledged to use Al its power to promote Emancipation. The power of 'die Catholic Association had been its moral power.: He trusted that the Bill would justify the' description, and be should wait anxiously for the I..troductioo of the Emancipation Bill. He bad become a member or it! Catholic Association from the idea that it was salon. hated to make known the great grievances under obit% Itched laboured; it would Nose died a natural death if Emancipation was granted. He must here beg leave to return his sincere thanks for the liberal smonnents the Ministers bad expressed, and he hoped the Bill would not be clogged with securities; the only soul*, the House could have would be in giving the Rooms Catholics their just rights—(Cheers). The Associatsen• did tut deserve all the epithets bestowed upon it. It wad not inconsistent with the Constitution to unite 4 Tyl sake grievances known. . . ••• Mr. STANLEY, in suppotting the proposition of the Bight Hon. Gentleman, -so far as the preliminary ewe= sure was concerned, begged :to le, understood es con curring in it, as one not by itself, but se dependolgi upon. and connected witk, other and greater measure . of more vital importance to the interests of the Roman Catholic Body. He meant measures of "conciliation-41W. bear). He did not wish to justify. the conduct and