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• PHILANTHROPIC ANNUITX PLAN. AMEETING will be holden at the LONDON TAVERN on TUESDAY NEXT, the tett of Juoe, at ONE o'clock precifely. for the purpofe of completion the Subkrip tion. and ewrying the Plan into effedt. WM LUDL AM. Welbeck.ftrcet, Cavendifb-square, June 3, 11:6. P.S. As nearly Soo perfons, who intended to be prefect at the left Martins, did not come till after it was adjourned, from (up. pofing that the Char would ebtbe taken till an hour after the time app. nt ed, I think it pelmet to obferve, that it wUI be taken on Tuefdap, at ONE PRECISELY. To thole who are unacquainted with the prbpoled Inftitution, it Is to be obferved, that In addition to the very conilderabk re% f It will afford to the Grantors of Annuities, it will give nearly joool a year to Charitable Inftitution., and will at the fame time yield to the Subferibers CIIITAINLY not ids than from 7 to 8 ner Cent and PROIA•LT 12 or I I per Cent. per 11.02 M. WITHOU T' ANY RISQIJR WHATEVFR. TO BE SOLD, in One or Two Lots, Amos r Valgable FREEHOLD ESTATE ; advantageoally °taste at Denton, between the asetaiercld and opulent Towns of Newcaftle and North Shield+, in Northum berland; confining of 55a Acres of excellent Arable, Failure, and Meadow land. in Lot One la comprifed a capital Man Son nonce, with Offices of every defcription ; Plcafure Grounds, and large Garden, well Rocked with Fruit Trees in full bearing, upon hot walls ; with Vinery, Peach hooks, and Melonry. The Farm attacked to this Mention confills of Ina Acres of excellent Land, In the belt con dition; with three Dwelling.houfes, and aU requiSte Farm-offices, upon the moll approved plan. Upon various parts of the Ground arc thriving Plantations, affording Melte: and ornament to the place Lot Two conillts of an ercellent Stone Manflon, calculated for • the reSdence of a large Family, with convenient Offices, Coach haute and Stabling, Gardens and Orchard+, well flocked. To this Lot are attached two Farms of excellent Land, containing together 431 Acres, otitis good Houfes and Offices, perfeßly adapted to the belt (yam of agricultural management, and there are feveral plantation, of thriving Wood In different parts of this Eitate..—.—For further particulars apply to Mars. Davidfon, Newcaßle upon Tyne; or to Mr. Tyndale, Solicitor, Lincoln's Inn Fields. PARLIAMENTARY PR,;CEEDIA GS. 110 USE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, JUNE 6. The Trifh Fiat Fruit' Bill was read a third time and paired, and a metNge fent to the Houfc of Commons to acquaint them therewith. The Property Tat Bill,thelh Sugar Bill, and the Irith Ad didonal Force Repeal Bill puffed through Committees and were . . Lord AUCKLAND prefented the Report of the Board of Trade made in t 784. relative to the Trade between the Welt In dies and Amtrica. which was ordered to ikon the table and to be printed. Mr. BA IC c a. Mr. Due:DALE, and (event other Members of the 1. • Houle of Commons, brought up the Irlib Stamp Duty Bill and four private bills, which were read a fiat time. Mr. Irving, from the Cullom H , tote, preferred return, relative to be commerce of Dominica, which was ordered to lie on the table and to he printed. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and, we tunterfiood, the tonSderation of the evidence adduced on the Trial of Lord Mel yille was refsmed. Their Lordihira continued In di'co Mon till eleven o'clock, when the further eonfideration of the fulled was deferred till Monday, on which (lay we underitood the Judges were again ordered to attend. Atikurned till to-ntorruw (this day). —.--... HOUSE OP COMMONS. Lord MUNCASTER took the natha and his feat for the cour• ty of Wellmorland, In the room of Sir Michael Le Fleming de ceded. A Meffage from the Lords acquainted the Hour, that the I orris had Agreed to the Me, MR Fruits Bill , the trill:Revenue Collation Bill, and the kith Malt Duty Regulation Till, without any amendment A perfon from the Office of enflame prefented an Account of all Duties of Cuftorns ehar;ed and outftanding, from April 5, 1805, to Art! 5.11136 —brdrred to be prhtted. A perfon from the Tax Offire ',relented an Account if Balances in the hands ~ f the Receiver G meal of the Laud Tan in Scotland. Orleredto be printed. • - A perfon from the Fay Office prefented an Account of the Cor refponclence of the Paymafter Ococr.d, relating to the auditing of Regimental Accounts. from July. IL-4 On the motion of Mr. V A NSErTA RT, there was ordered to be before Vie Hoare a report of the experiments made to afar. Mk the comparative ftrength of malt, barley, and bigg, in Scot . land. He then brought up the repot, and, en account of the ac curacy and Iwo:tat the experiments which It detailed moved that the report he primed; which was ordered accordingly. Mr. HO ?HODS E brought up the Report of the Committee of the whole Houle, containing certain Refolutions rcfpeding Duties on [Millers in Scotland, and a Dill was ordered to be brought in accordingly. Mr. HOBHOUSE brought up the Report on the Dublin Pay ing Din. and the Dill wan ordered to be read a third time on Mon day next. On the motion of Sir]. NEWPORT. the Houle rehired itfeif - into a Committee on the Malt and Spirits Duty Dill. Report to he received oa Monday. •DANDOMMENT OT TAT TAX nN TRITATI aRIWIRI. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then moved the order of the day for the Houle to refolve itfeif into a Committee of Ways and Means, for the purpore of ponponing it to Monday next. The Order of the Day being read, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ' role to fay, that he propofed the prefent delay till Monday, for the purpofe of altering the Tax which he had lately fnbmitted to the Houle. He Rill re mained convinced, however, of the equity of the principle on which the Tax on Private Brewers was founded, and continued to think that it went to pro duce an equal:z ttion of the price of beer to all or. dere of the community; to thofe who were fupplied by the publi: brewer. and to thofe who brewed their own hear. But underßanding that a confiderable diverfity of opinion citified on this fubjeft, he felt convinced of the propriety of giving it tome delay, and a full and mature confideration. In order that its junks might he fully underfloor, and acknowledged. The mode in which the applic.tinn of the tax ought to rake place, would alfn decree to be confidered ; namely, whether its objeemightnot be better attain ed by inereafing the duty on malt, giving at the fame _ time a drawback to the public brewer, or by the way which he had already Hated to the Honfe. Feeling a Arcing anxiety. from the neccaity of the times, that every attention &sold be paid to this fubjea, and at the fame time finrn the refponfibility im , poled upon him, that his financial meefores fhould obtain the fupport and concurrence of the country, he wifbed in the mean time to avail bimfelf of the ex- Ming A ITeffed Taxes, and &mild, Milts Committee of Ways and Means, on Monday next, propofe an ad dition often per cent. on the Affeffed Taxes. in the room of t! , at tax, which be (bould relinquifh for the prefent. lbut (Mold be continue is the Gloating% ' which he now had the honour to fill, be lbould think ' it his duty to propofe, in the next &Mon of Parlia ment, a fin,ilar tax to that which he bad now ahea d toed. Mr. COKE raid, that he was aflonilbed when he heard the tax on private brewers firß propofed ; and eie more he had confidered the nicotine, the frontier &A iris ohjeaiour to it appear. He lamented that t h e Noble laud thou.:;! ever have been perfuaded to rtr,pqr! A . 1 111 l'Ale C. l:. partial, and oppreltive. He : cgtc %led, :4 eti it was tit a prt pored, that he &odd have had to oppofe a meafure, brought forward byi Gentlemen with whom he had voted for thirty years, on one Ready principle, and to whom he looked op rather than to any other fet of men, for the falvation of the country at the prefent period. The tax which was now, for the prefent, relinquifbed, could only be confidered as a boon held out to a certain dcfcription of perfons, he meant the public brewers, who could hardly be confidered as entitled to any fuch favour, when the quality of the commodity which they pro duced was taken into account. Sir R. BUXTON, though he had from the WI confidered the tax as objeetionable, yet was glad to hear, that the meafure of introducing the excite into private families had been finally abandoned. But he was extremely lorry to learn, that the Noble Lord intended to perfiß in the meafure, and again to bring it forward next year ;—though he united that he would, in the mean time, fee reafon to alter his de• termination. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that he had already Rated, that the regula tion, as to the Excite, had been finally abandoned ; and he inuft fay, that the various reports which had gone abroad on this fubjeft were founded on grofs mifreprefentation. It had uniformly been his opi. nion, that the forcible introduction of the Excife into private families could not be juftified on any principle whatever. It was never meant that this part of the Bill fhould be enforced, but that it fhould be left entirely to the option of the private brewer, whether he fhould fubmit to the laws of the Excife, or pay the duty on the leak of the Alleged Taxes. He fhould ever contend, that the tax was fair and equitable in itfelf, as obliging the private brewer to pa in a jet proportion to the other confumers of beer. Mr. BAKER thought, that the foundation of the tax, as originally propofed, was the introduftion of excifemen into private families, and Rated the refult of a eonverfation which he had had with the Noble Lord on the fubjee, which was loon after followed 1 by an abandonment of that part of the meafure. He trufled and expected that the tax would be relin. quifbcd altogether. From what he had teen of the candour and ability with which the Noble Lord filled his prefent office, he, for one, had certainly no ob jection to his remaining in that fituation ; but he was not prepared to fay, with his Hon. Friend behind him, that the fafety of the country depended on the continuance of the prefent Adminiftration. Indeed, from the experience of the left 'twelve years, he did not feel difpofed to place the fame confidence in all his Majefty's Miniflers. Mr. LONG obferved, that the introduction of the mire into private families would have been attended with intolerable inconvenience, as they wocld thus have become fobjea to the various Excife Laws.— With regard to the propofed addition of to per cent. on the Miffed Taxes, it &fermi to be confidered whether the increafe might not be puttied fo far, as to counteract the very pupae in view, and to dimi nifti, inftead of increafing, their general producc ? At the fame time, this fubflitute met with his com parative approbation. Mr. FOX was of opinion, that the tax in queftion was a good one, as putting the private brewer only on a footing of equality with the other confumers of beer. All that part of the meafure which related to the cadre was intended to be dropped; but he mall fay, that it only meant, that every perfon ftiould have his option ; and that if, on the principle, welenti RON fit iajuria, any man fhould choofe to fubmit to all the inconvenience of the excite, inflead of paying un the fcale of the Afraid Taxes, he might be at liberty to enjoy his option. This was all that was intended by the word " accommodation" which had been tiled, and on which the Right Honourable Gentleman who (puke lag had dwelt. But, on the ] whole, whatever might be his opinion with regard to the tar, he was glad that it W 26 poliponed for the prefent. In the difficulties in which the country was placed, we could only make choice of the !call of] two evils, and it became necefrary for the Hoof. to confider, principally, what tax might be kali objec tionable. With regard to the addition to the Alreffed Taxes, there was reafon to believe that it would be productive in lame degree. It would be found itta poffible to avoid preffing, either more immediately, or more remotely, on the poorer elates of fociety. Even the Miffed 'Faxes mull have this effect to a certain extent —Mr. LONG explained. Mr. WILBERFORCE obferved, that had the tax been perfilled in, he fhould have congratulated the Houle, that the part refpeeing the Excife had been left nut ; but he now felt (till more gratified, that the Noble Lord had relinquiffied the meafure, at leaft for the prefent ; and he mull fay, that the condo& of the Noble Lord on this occafion had increafed that re (pee which he had uniformly felt for his character.— He had (hewn, that he remembered that he was the financier of a free country, and that the general Rock of good will towards the Government (hould not be diminifhed. Had the tax been petrified in, he fhould not have oppufed it, as he had already refilled a pre. ceding meallire, which he confidered as hofiile to the nianolafluitli of the country ; but he fhould have re. Fretted the effects which he feared it would have had in many parts of the country; where it was common for families to brew their own beer—a praSice which he Gould ever confider as equally favourable to com fort and fobriety, and as deferring of every encou ragement. In the main, he confidered the propofed addition of so per cent. on the Affiefred Taxes as an excellent meafure, though it might perhaps be better to make the increafe greater on fame of there taxes than on others. A very ennfiderable increafe on the tax on men fervants, for Inftance, would never bear hard on the poorer daffier of fociety. Mr. JOHNSTONE espreffed his aßonifhment and regret, that the Noble Lord lhould have abandoned a former tax, and relinquished the prefent, while nothing hitherto had been impofed for payment of the intent of the loan, except the trifling tax on appraifemente, and on tobacco, &e. He contended that the principle of the tax was good, and that it only required courage and perfevcrance on the part of the Noble Lord to render it productive. He quoted the words of Dv. Adam Smith, who had long ago recommended a tax precifely limilar, though he had propofed that the duty Illould rather be int por ed on the malt, than on the private brewer. On the whole, he coocei i t , that Minders had thought the relinquifhment of 'ftseafore neceffary for the rapport of the military .is of their Right lion. vci s4 Colleague, and not produ&l by anv consietion•es; its hut dud tendency. - Mr. TYRRWHIT JONES thought, that had the tax been perfitled in, the prefent idiniffers would have become as unpopular as any who had ever gone before them. He would _advice the Noble Lord, however, to revert to the tax on iron, in preference to an increafe of the Affelfed Taxes. Sir W. WILLIAMS WYNNE obfarved, that pri vate brewers generally ufed double the quantity of malt and hops to that conlumed by the public brewer for producing the fame quantity of beer; and there fore as much ex pence attended the private brewer, as the confumer of beer from public breweries. Befides, it was not always in the option of an individual to have recourfe to public brewers ; he could (tate, that in the whole principality of Wales, there was only one man of that defcription. • Mr. W. SMITH confidered the clamour that had been railed againft the tax, 23 unneeeffary and ex ceffive. He thought that i f the people of that part of the country, with which the Honourable Gentle. man who (poke lag was conflated, put lets malt into their beer, both their health and their morals would be improved by the change. Sir W. WILLIAMS WYNNE, in reply, obferv ed, that they ufed malt and hops, which the public brewers did not.—(Laugh.) Mr. CALVERT was not aware of any peculiar preffure on the labouring poor, which had been pro- duced by taxes lately impofed. The demand for labour had increafed, and with it the increafe of wages ; but the middle ranks of fociety had felt the preffure much more feverely. Mr. ROSE thought that the fituation of the public brewer was not Inch as called for favour and protec tion, by impofing a countervailing duty on private brewers. The quantity of malt ufed by the public brewer was inconfiderable, when compared with that ofed by the private brewer. It had been found that the porter brewers of Louden produced three barrels and a half of beer from eight bufhels, while the pri. vale brewer required ten bufbels to produce a hog. (head. It had been calculated, that the public brewers produced as much from 2,40 rt 000 bufhels, as the private brewers from ( even mil lions of bullsels. He could not, therefore, fee how the public would gain, by throwing the production of beer principally into the hands of the brewers ; as what might be gained by the increafe of the duty on beer, might be 101 l by the defalcation of that on malt. Mr. WHITBREAD obferved, that the public brewer could not be Paid to be well acquainted 'with his trade, unlefs he were able to make a much better ufe of his materials than the private brewer. He tor. reCted the calculation of the Right Hon. Gentleman, obferving that only three and a quarter barrels were generally produced from eight bufbels. Mr. Alderman COMBE confirmed the correanefs of this calculation, and obfcrved, that the public brewer had great advantages over the private, in re• fpelt of the quantity from the fame materials, arifing from fupesior (kill and machinery. It was then ordered that the Houle refolve it fell into a Committee of Ways and Means on Monday next. MUTINY BILL. _ Mr. WINDHAM then moved the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Mutiny Bill. Mr. WALLACE then role, and entered into a very extenfive detail of the arguments againft the Bill. He cnnfidered it as an infraction of the prero. gatire of the Crown, and thought that the meafure Mould rather have originated from the Crown, than receive the fanaion of Parliament, as in that way the whole refpoufibility would have been placed on the (houlders of Mininers, who might afterwards have been accountable to the country, while the prefent mode of proceeding officiated Parliament with Mini hers, and freed them from that refpontibility. He dwelt at confiderable length on the invidious diftinc. tion which it went to produce between the foldiers of the prefent army and thofe who might enlift after this bill paired into a law. Thole veterans who had bled and conquered in the fervice of their country, were to remain in a Bate of confeffed hardfhip, while re cruits were to enjoy fuperior _advantages. He con tended that it would have a pernicious influence on the general difcipline of the army, from the anxiety which officers would feel to retain the foldiers in the fervice, at the expiration of the period for which they had engaged. He did not coped much from the mixture of the citizen and the foldier, and thought that the inconveniencies of military fervice would be more cheerfully borne, when the foldier looked for. ward to the military life as his only refource. On thefe grounds, the prefent Pill fhould meet with his decided oppofition in every tlage of its propels. Mr. WILBERFORCE laid, he had felt it his duty to inform himfelf on the fubjee, and he had cettainly been materially of ned by feveral able productions. The great queltion was, how the regular army was to be increafed ? He thought it was neceffory to increafe the Banding army, not fo much with a view to a defers , five as a dilpofeable force. It was to be confidered,; that in a naval nation, which had the power of tr..nf porting its troops as it pleafed, the fame army might be appropriated to a variety of different Cervices. He thought that the principle upon which the army ought to be increafed, had been well Bated by the Right Honourable Gentleman when he opened his plan tr. the Houle. The mode of entitling men for life was calculated to terrify men from entering a fervice where there were nod& vrylrgia ertrorfirm. The fy nem now propored, he had no doubt, would remove one of the greaten impediments to perfons entering nn military life. He obferved, that in the late Admini nration, there was an intention to create an order of merit in the Navy, in order to reward great exploits. He hoped that idea would not be loft fight nf, but that it would be extended to the army. He was con. vinced that the meafure now propoted would improve the tone and charaeer of the army. He remarked that the armies of free countries had always been fu perior to thole which were not free. Whether he ad verted to Greece, to Rome, or•to England, it would Ee found that military fucceffes were always in pro portion to the Bare of public freedom. The people of England had fignaliLed themfelves from the period of Magna Charta till the eflablithment of their liber ties by the Revolution. It was pleating to refleft, that the A LM la Ivry ' in giving men liherty, had given them the means of pre - crying it. Doubtles the French had atchieved great conquens under the ic fluence of that enthuGafm by which they had been actuated, but he was convinced that if they remained long under the form of Government they did now, it would nit be in the power of Lcgions of Honour, or any artifices employed by their Ruler, to counteraCt the eternal order of things, and givithem the energy of a free country. He did not believe that the mea fure would excite difcontent in the regular army now erifting, becaufe the principle had been tried in the American war, and found fuccefsful. The men en lifted for five years, or during the war, had been put into the ranks with thofe whole fervices had been on. gaged for fife, and yet no one heard of any difratisfat lion in confequence of that mixture. He was alfo of opinion that the Navy would not be situated by any mean jealoofy in confequence of any fuppofed ad vantages granted to the Army in point of limited fervice ; he did not fee how fuch jealirfy could trill, becaufe at the end of a war the failors, or a great pan of them, were difcharged ; 'fo that in feet the engage• spent of a (anew might be faid to be for a limited pe riod. It would be alfo remembered by the Moore, and would, he had ao doubt, be recollefted with gra. titude by the Navy, that the Noble Lord who was at the head of the Admiralty had done much to im prove the condition of the claffes of which it was corn - poled. He tru Red, ho wever, that the Noble Lord would not flop fatisficd witla what was donet but proceed (till to do more. He meant particularly to call his attention to the propriety of making an eflablifhment for the wives and children of failors who mould have fallen in the defence of their country. With refps to colonial fereice,he perceived no difficulty in making an arrangement both beneficial and fatisfaeory, if the preterit fyftem of 'livery were abolilbed in our Mends. We were obliged to keep up a large military force in the colonies, and to fend out frequent rein forcements, not fo much for the purpofe of oppoling . the common enemy, as to awe and rule the flare who cultivated them.-if Haver y were removed, then in ternal arrangements c3uld be made calculated to de. fend and prefervs them at little expence either for life or treafore. Mr. DDINGTON raid, that as this would pro bably be the salt time the fubjeft would be dircuffed in that Houle, he could not avoid shortly expreffing his fentiments upon the important queltion then be fre rte Honfe. He thought that his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Windham). had not been handfomely or fairly treated, when his plan had been - to often called a whim, and a wild and fanciful theory. The word theory was generally applied to fyllems, an opinions h tally adopted : but the Gentlemen on the ether fide of the Houle had been complaining, week after week, and day after day, of his Right Hon, Friend having taken fo much time us; confider, and mature his plan, before he prefeuted it to the Houfc. In the full reffinnfibility of the meafure, not only his Majefty's Minillers in that Houle, but a Noble Lord in the other (Lord Grenville), would willingly take thetr fullffiare. As for himfelf, though he had no (hare of the refponfibility, yet when he heard his Right Honourable Friend charged as P raft and haR y (peculator for introducing it, he mull fay, that he fo perfettly appraved of it, that he fhould with ho political character in that refpeft to Rand or fall with that of thnfe who introduced this meafure. A good deal had been raid in the cootie of the dikoffion that had taken place on this mullion, of the opinions of the General Officers not being laid before that Moore. The opinions of Officers were given upon a miellion referred to them by the Commander in Chief, and which was different from that which was now under .lifculfion. The quellion which had been referred to them was merely between limited fervice and fervice for life. There were, however, in the prefent plan. fo many auxiliary inducements combined with the propofed limitation, that ehe moilion then to be confidered was totally different from that which bad been referred to the General Officers. As to the mo tives which induced men to call, he believed the non•eommiffioncd officers conld (peak better than thti Generals ; but every man of e ,:nmon fence, and who was at all acquainted with the character of the Eng nation, might forma good judgment on that Cub jett. Ht confidered that the cattalitie; of the army. reckoned at 15,000 annually, would not be near to great in future, is the pripcipal part of it, arifing trom defertion, would be in a great meafure dont away.'• He was much more fanguine in his expec tation of immediate (heeds than his Right Hon. Friend, and conceived that it was in hit 'charaßer a trait of that generous policy, which, according to the praftice of our ancellors, legitlated as much for the good of pofterity as for the prefent time. Some Gen tlemen had (aid, "we were well enough as we were Whoever would look on the map of Europe, and fee nothing but France, excepting the territories of our magnanimous allies, the emperor of Ruffia and the King of Sweden, could hardly bring himfelf to think. that "we were well enough as we were." Afteir commenting for Tome time on the dektiption a Noble Lord had given of the Rate of the cbuntry, when he considered that Ministers repofed on a " bed of roles," he (hewed/sow much that fituation had been changed for the worfe, in confequence of the failure of the Coalition in the tall unfortunate campaign, and con• chided by expreffing his firm conviction, that this , would not only be a moll efficient meafure, but that, in time, it would be a very popular one. He h 44 converted with many military officers on the fubjeft, and they had all, without exception, confidered that the army would be benefited by ir. He alfo had converted with (everal foldiers who had been difcharged, and they all agreed that fuch a meafure would be" the making of the army." This, he was lure, would be the general feeling of all the foldiers in the army, and at all thofe claffes from which fol diers were to be obtained, and he therefore thought that the meafure was the moll likely for rapidly re cruiting the army. General TARLETON Paid the Rig'.t Hon. Gen tleman (Mr. Windham) looked to the army not as an Englishman and a foldier, but as a philoffipher. and as a philnpher of a very bad fchool, who knew nothing of the human mind, on which his fpeculae tions were to operate. The General had fame expe rience of limited tervice in Portugal, when the Baron De Rolle, who had the command of a Swifs Regi ment, did not dare put them to ordinary duty, left thofe whole time was expiring (hould quit the military lite. Then wit, imagination, hilts-try, and every thing rife was preffed into the debate, excepting what be longed to it, for the mere purpofe of doing what the lawyers called " blinking the mteftion " Amonglt the refl. the French fervice was held up as an ex ample, and he would admit the wifdom of the maxim, Far efi ab 4yie doceri, but in the prefent cafe the prece dents adduced had either nn application at all, or were opofed to use argument of the Right Honour able Genticutata. The truth was, the officers of the 1 ti ~i