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/ • ~~~ . _. • . Wished upon any principle of law, that a winien, in defence could be questioned upon a conversation which had tint been' treated of in the former part of the case. Lord ERSKINE said, he considered it a privilege of the' Counsel for the Defence, not only to refer tb what the witness , .Dlsjocchi bad said, but to accompany it with such comments as appeared to them necessary to the Defence. The . House Were to look at what Majocchi had aid; and the Learned Counsel proposed to shew, from the conversation between Majocchl and the witness, that his evidence was false. The House were bound to hear it. Mr. Baeumtax wished simply to state his proposition. It was past all doubt that nothing that Majocchi had said could be evidence of what Ompteda had done; but Majocchl having said, in answer to five or six questions—" I do not remember," and in answer to two questions—" I do not know," he wished to ask this witness whether Majocchi not only remem •%red what he had denied, but whether he must not have re , • limbered the cirdunstauce in all Its details—that, in fact, it vas of such a nature that it could not be forgotten. Nay, that ! had told such things as made it perfectly clear that he had ..c• accurate knowledge of every thing connected with the urcumstance. Ile (Mr. Brougham) contended that Majocchi having sworn that he was ignorant of certain things, the proof must be permitted to be given of the contrary, for he was the ary person who had told those things to the witness. The Attorney-General had admitted that if any question had been asked Majocchi, as to the conversation about Baron Ompteda, there would arise a right to examine other witnesses to that subject. How, then, could the permission be refused, when the evidence of the present . witness would go to prove that he was cognizant of facts, the knowledge of which he had denied. To prove his right to examine to this point, he was not only sup ported by the authority of what had taken place before their Lordships in the case of the Duchess of Kingston, but by the case•of Elfz. Canning, at the Old Batley, in which it was ruled, that a Counsel was not to be limited to any particularity in his enderioir to prOve the falsehood of an evidence. It would be de sirable to put it to the Judges whether, a witness having sworn to his ignorance'of certain facts, Counsel should not be allowed to prove that he was aceuahmed with them. Suppose that he asked a witness whether he knew that A B picked locks, and vas turned out of the house for it? and that that witness said he knew nothing of it, would he not be allowed to r rCve that the witness was present when the locks were picked ? Ile (Mr. Brougham) could prove that Majocchi was present IN ben the fact took place. There could be no hesitation then as to his knowledge of that which he said he was ignorant of. It would be a powerful contradiction to him (Majocchl), that he had told to some one, who had previously known no thing of them, facts of which he had sworn his ignorance. If the question had been put to Majocchi which, ex consensis, on all hands would have entitled Counsel to examine upon the con versation, how could the privilege be denied when it was consi dered that the reason that questions had not been asked was, that they did net know whom it might be necessary to call and what it might be necessary to contradict? The ArronNlT-QZNIMAL said, the argument Of the Learned :Counsel was merely a repetition of what had been said before; and argued against the right to ask the question in the present state of the can in nearly the same terms he had used before. The Learned Gentleman continued, in a tone of great warmth, to argue agair.st the question. If Majocchi had been 'examined as to the conversation with Carrington, then It would have been permitted to the Learned Counsel on the opposite side td exa mine their own witness on the subject. But that conversation could not be sought for until Majocchi had either acknowledged or denecLit. And they must have the denial of Majocclii.he foreohey attempted to impeach him on that point. Lord ERSKLNE wished their Lordships to be guided as much as possible by the rules of evidence admitted in common law. But if, in a trial like this, where a list of witnesses was refused to the Counsel for her Majesty, they learnt some im portant facts with which they were unacquainted at the time of the cress-examination, was the truth, then, still to lay undiko vexed? Certainly not. Majocchi might be called to confront the witness. lie had seen this practice adopted more than once in the Courts below. He, as a Peer of that House, would con tend that the evidence was admissible. The LORD CHANCELLOR was always glad to hear the Counsel on both sides argue a disputed point, before their Lord ships gale their decision. He had himself little experience in the rules of evidence. But he conceived they could not admit the evidence of any witness to a particular circumstance to contradict a general assertion of another witness, unless that witness should be examined as to that particular fact. He, therefore, would recommend that the subject of discussion should be put in the form of two questions to the Judges; and that they should state their opinion how far it was the practice of the Courts below. Earl GREY, much as he respected the opinions of the Learned Judges, would not admit them as binding. He thought the best course would be, that Majocchi should be called in, and the question put to him, which, if it had been put in cross-examina tion, would, as admitted by the Counsel for the prosecution, have entitled the Counsel for the Queen to pursue the course of exa initiation they were doing, when interrupted. The Earl of LIVERPOOL was in favour of the course proposed by the Learned Lord on the Woolsack, and hoped that the House would find no difficulty in agreei4 with the opinion of the Learned Judges. LOrd ERSKINE said he had never wished the House not to abide by the •opinies of the Judges, but he should still re tain his own sentiments on the subject. 'Cite Marquis of LANSDOWN thought the shortest cotes would be to call in Majocchi and put the question to him. The LORD CHANCELLOR wished to know fronithe Counsel on both sides If they had any objection to Majoechi's being called ? Thr Arroarstr-Gzintnat said he felt considerable difficulty. saiocchi had been three times cross-examined, and the Learned Counsel had declined any further cross-examination of him. if this course was to be adopted, it might be applied to every witness. The LORD CHANCELLOR interrupted the Learned Gentleman, and said, he did not wish him to argue the point, but merelytostatewhether he agreed to Majoechi being called or act, The ATIORNEVXENERAL said, he could not consent to Ma jocchi being called. The question was then put to the Judges, who withdrew to consult upon it. • Mr. BROUGHAM suggested, that as Lady Charlotte Lindsay w.ls in attendance, it would save the time of the House if she u as now called in. Lady CHARLOTTE LLNDSAT AU then called to the Bar Of the House. The LORD CHANCELLOR.—Lady Charlotte 'Lindsay, have you searched for the letter ?—I h a ve, Has your Ladyship found it ?—No, I have not. Do you believe that the letter is in existence?—l believe it is not in existence. The Earl of DONOUGHMORE enquired what were the terms of the letter? Mr. BROUOIIIO4 objected to the question. • ~. "SECOND' whim. • . I . lo.lll , difin LadY Catit&orrt LINDSAY CO/Strflia ?b Log CiaikCELLOR said, tuiderstood 'het : t6li4r• ship to have stated she left the Princess in coneesploote ist a communication from her brother, and that it was Vade in writing ; he conceived that his Ladyship might be asked M e te the • general terms of the letter. The Earl of LA UDERDALE to Lady Chatlotte Tandsay.— Can your Ladyship state the general terms of that lettert—l have no distinct recollection of it, farther than a wish that I should resign my situation, and stating some pecuniary arrange ments consequent on it. Can your Ladyship say whether your brother gave his advice without assigning any reason for it ?—I do not recollect that be did; but I have some indistinct idea that the reports already mentioned might have been stated in the letter. To what reports do you allude?—The reports which, in an swer to a question from a Noble Lord, I mentioned yesterday —reports of an unpleasant nature which induced me to wish to leave my situation. Lord ERSKINE—Does your Ladyship mean those reports which were inconsistent with your own observations? Question objected-to. John Whitconbe was then called in, and was on the point of being sworn, when The Earl of LAUDERDALE rose, and said, that, as new difficulties might arise, he thought the House should wait the return of the Judges, and not proceed to the examination of othei witnesses. Lord HOLLAND did not conceive the presence of the Judges necessary during the examination of a witness, or even during the arguments of COunsel, as their opinion should be given in dependent of both. The Earl of LIVERPOOL had no objection to their Lord ships' going on, although It was contrary to the course they had hitherto adopted. The Earl of LAUDERDALE contended, that the Judges should not be called on for their opinion without hearing the nts of Counsel. Jinn Whitcombe was then sworn, and ermined by Mr. TYWDAT.L. What situation in life do you bold?—I am valet to the Hon. Keppel Craven. How long have .you held that situtionT—Six years., . Were you in the service of Mr. Craven when the :Briacess of Wales went to Naples?—Yes, I was. Ho you remember, on the firstnight of your arrival at Naples, where Bergami slept ?—No, I do not. Have you seen the room ?—No, I never saw it. Do you recollect the room where Bergami slept on the second night?—Yes, perfectly well. Was there a passage communicating between that room and the room of the Princess?—There was a long passage, at one end of which was the room of her Royal Highness, and at tki other end was that of Bergatni. In which room did William Austin sleep?—ln the room melt to her Royal Highness. Where did Hieronimus sleep ?—Next to William Austin. Where did Dr. Holland sleep ?—Next to Ineronimus. Did these three rooms lay on the same side of the passage? —Yes. Was there a door from the room of Ilieronimus that °rood in the passage ?—Yes, there was. Where did the door of Dr. HolLind's room open into? 4lialp another passage towards the dining-room. Was Dr. Holland's room at the corner of the two passages?— It was. Did the door of Dr. Holland's room open opposite to the door of Bergamrs room?—No, Bergami's room did not open into-that passage. De Mont slept in a room over that of Dr. Holland. Has been in that room frequently, late as well as early. De Moot generally invited him to go there. Mother female servant of the kspse was sometimes present, but has been alone with De Mont in the room very frequently. On some occasions, when thus alone with her, the door was locked and bolted. The Ser.scrroa-Gresasi here interfered. He said, that the object of this course of examination must be evident to their Lordships, and surely no argument was necessary to shew that it was illegitimate. Mr. Derstax.--My Lords, we will not pursue it. The LORD CHANCRLLOR.—You have pushed it as Ear as you possibly could—(4 laugh). Nzaatissatiort resumed. Recollects the masked ball given at Naples. Part of the servants were dressed in character ; Sicard, Boland; and Hie ronimus, after the Turkish fashion. Saw Bergami, in the latter part of the evening, in his plain clothes. He was walking about the rooms, and at times assisting in handing about refreshments. Was at Naples all the time the Princess was there. Bergami conducted himself towards the Princess in the same way as the rest of the servants—as they all did. Cran-eramined by the Sciticrros-Orxxaat.—From a long series of questions about the position of the rooms, unnecessary to ben repeated, it appeared that besides the passage common to the rooms of the Princess, Dr. Holland, Hieronimus, William Austin, and Bergami, there was *docker parallel passage by which Bergami could go to the room of the Princess, without passing the room doors of Dr. Holland, &c. The witness being ordered to withdraw. Lord ERSKINE rime, and requested the attention of their Lordships to that part of De Mont'* evidence which related to her sleeping alone at Naples. She had sworn that she had slept , alone " every night"—" The whole night"—" Aland"—" All alone ;" and that she did not recollect where Mr. Keppel Cno 'en's *Tient slept on any 'one night, while at Naples. • His Lordship wished that the witness Whitcombe should be re called, and asked whether be passed any night, or part of a night, in the roam of De Moot when she was there and in bed? The Souirron-Ilorradit submitted to their Lordships, that the question was one which ought not to be put. It was at tempting to do that circuitously and by a side wind, which could not have been done directly. The object of it was to Al the guilt of a certain connection on De Mont; and if, as he submit, ted, to be quite clear, De Mont could not have been asked to criminate herself; it was incompetent by questibas to another witness to come at the same result. Lord ERSKINE vindicated his right to put the questlOn. A witness might be asked a question which be was not bound to answer, but nothing could prevent Counsel from putting it. His Lordship when at the Bar had once tendered a BM of Re ceptions on this very point, and though that Bill had oat been argued, as the cause it referred to was of no importance, it hid ever .since been regarded as a Intded rule of practice; that Counsel might put questions to a witness, tending to . crhallote that witness, leaving it in the option of the witness to =gm than or not. When De Mont was asked whether she had lielpt alone, no objection was taken to the relevancy of the inquiry; and his Lordship could not see how it was now irrelreant to as certain whether the answer ,she gyre to that qu f sdinypss true or fah& The LORD CIUINCIILLOR eislim4ll.l3llbitV . t , . ~~' ~ ' ~ . ' - eniered iota Victim it the Baia the rule Wpthat when a' question was pit tsr a wilsess,. thh MOW So Whlch min nose that. vitro, 1 e . Judge pet the -witness on Mei his gaud; brat nude nasally ars preictke had beet where% it "if mod to.olloar a Ink-UT* galtklgt to be lip, bay- ins - .it to-the witness to detersaine for .hidaself wi (MP AA should *Awes it OrMst. - 4t :the same than if wiedqvislitta• settled rust of fracdee, that if a witness was asked mean td fix do Idilt the get Of saw offessee; sad it' he swered by a denial, it was not alterviardi esinpetent to prove by. other witnesses that be was Spiky .By aPneditni so' witness's own emunsony, the right to mom to any' other testimony was fee ever sad completely abandrined, • The only diEculty, thaefore, whiel ransomed in the `prisent • Mae, was, to dotemlitahVandser the vaudoise put to lb. Medi AR to her sittigisg Om; siessesarily involved the Intl OM impure Mond:doe If they did, dam,* his don, the-question proposed by his Noble and Leaded* 191%edlit (Lord Erskine), could not be put. Lord LIVERPOOL said, that it was possible to reconcile the evidence et' De Mont and that of r.. Craven's servant, She had sword that no doe hod slept with her. Now that was quite possible, for a - poem might hare hod crisninal intercourse with her without. having slept with her. [A langli which continued for some time.] . Some observalions were made by Lords Revaluate, Ea mum, and LAVDSZOALZ but it was impossible to hear theca in consequence of the Mirth etched by Lord Livzsvooes last words. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, it was evident that a question had been put to De Mont, for the purpose of ascer taining whether she had lived an immoral Me. Ne witness could be called to contradict the denial she bad given. He hoped the Counsel for the Defence would not permit an aninier to be given to any diipated question until the se a of the House was taken upon it. i. The wain nation moral* . Minima. Lord thgk XNE---Where *Uri* Alhil n is the Queens house it Naples?-1n the room neat to the °arable Keppel Craven's. Every night you were there?—Yes, the three nights. The *bole of the nights?—Yes, after I went to bed. I went to bed at - twelve o'clock. And you never went to any other bed from your own during the night?—No. After these three nights yon went to lodgings ?—Yes. r Did you, ewer since you went to your lodgings, sleep in the house you ;eft ?—I never slept in the Queen's house afterwards. When I first entered into the service of Mr. Keppel Craven, it was at Brandenburgia-house, about six years ago. I spoke little French at the time, as much as to make myself under stood. I was at Pesaro fifteen months ago. Bergami and Austin came to the lodgings of Mr. Craven. L &hewed Bergator into the room mywlf. - He spoke to me whesi he was coming up stairi, and.preseed my hand. After having gone front' the house in which I first was, I frequently have been in De Mont's bed-room. I did not see anybody there but Annette, 'that I recollect.—Witness was ordered to'withdraw. The Judges having returned, The Loan Cuter JUSTICE rose and stated, that the opinion of hint and his Learned Brothers upon the question submitted to them was in the negative. If the power of examining evidence. of the nature alluded to was allowed, the person whose testi mony it was meant to affect would be deprived of the most im portant opportunity of saving himself. In the Courts below, it would be permitted to the Counsel rather to call back an evi dence, and so far break in upon the ordinary rules, than to vio late so important a privilege—(Hear). tter a few words from Loid klot.t.iore, the LORD CHARCIL• me, and Lose LITORPOOL. • Mitjoicbi ens called in. • There was a general bun in the House when this celebrated character appeared, and the strangers below the Bar pressed for eiard to see him. Ex:wined by Mr. Beouottass. Do you recollect, et the Ruccanelli, having seen William Cato tierce, the servant of Sir William Gell?s—Questo rue toi I—(Lougliger 'gene and below the jar). Do you recollect having seen Sir William Gell's English servant near Monte anywhere?—" Querns Nox ut LICORDO 1" Lk a low sigh,--General laughter in the House.) Do you remember having seen Sir William Gell's servant -hPre?—l have seen him, I think, at Rome, but not at Didiyou ever tell bier thaThaasrOnipteli:haff emphswjed, any octet to get the keys of the Princess at Como, in order to get Others made?—Qouro son. Did lot ever tell that servant any thing to that effect 1-1 never have spoken of this. • • Did you ever tell hint that a person who had been emloy_ed for the aforesaid purpose by Oilseeds, had confessed to the: Po. lice such employment, and been discharged in censemmoce ? I nevet had any such conversation. Did you ever tell him that if the Princess had not ordered her servantiito take no notice of the conduct of Ompteda, you your self would have killed him like a dog ?—I never said any such thing. These things are quite new, to -me. Did you ever speak to him of the villainy and ingratianle of Ompteda, after baring so long eaten and drank in the. Princeses house, and complain of his having brought suspicion on the per-. vents No-Never. Did you ever talk of Ompteda to the English servant of Sit William Gell, by name?—Never. Did you ever hold any conversation with Sir William Gell's servant respecting the conduct of Ompteda ?—No, I never spoke to him about it. Pilliank Carrington called in, and his examination resumed by Dr. basun:mow. What did Majocchi say to you respecting Ompteda?—He told the that Baron Ompteda, while on a visit to the Princess of Wales, had employed the postilion and chambermaid to procure the keys of her Royal Highness's room.. Did Majoechl tell you that Ompteda employed persons to get the keys?—Yes, to procure the keys of the Princess's room at Como, to get false ones made. Did betell you that a person in the Princess's family bad been so employed and discharged in consequence?—He did. Did Majoechi say, if Ompteda had so applied to him, he would have killed him like a dog?—Yes, he did. Did he say Ompteda had made the servants suspected ? He dal Dials* frequently mention the name of Ompteda?—He Crespesessined by the Amnesty-Gssmaz.. . . I 'tad this conversation with Majocchi in the coach-yard of "the Villa Buccanelli. No other person was present.' I came thereaccideutally,not having any thing particular to do. It was. 1817, about as hoar before our setting out for Rome— j was at a rt of two - days and one night.. / was PAGlS.twouliffil. Majocchi went to Bonze the same day. 'Wlaha I hog IllosislOWastioo Majosold, .he ,was das ftliOut• 11/1011. 01l die Pillautwri people ward atZ ag m ae not iwslinggenies. The subject was theta& of the bow ot thatt Bliejocchl began the conversation by. saying IA % L ei Too Am* 4 mbe affair of Ompteda ?" l said I had heard cans. to He then went over it. He had be hest momisond it is tins oil sass' hail, when eight or ten of the livery servants wan prisenkbut I do not know the names of pay except Francisco. lam not very positive that this was in 1817, but I believe it was. ' When the Princess was at the Villa Grande, Sir William Gell did not sleep there, but at the Hotel de l'Europe, about a nails sada half or two m ilesi distant. Sir William Cell dined with the Princess almost every day, and returned in the evening. Re examined by Dr. Lemma:ow. After I left Naples I saw the Princess of Wales twice at Rome. I did not hear of Onspeede the first time: Had no con versation with the servants, and weever dined with them. •• Jbassnausoinsey the Puss. Xarvis of IHICKfNI/HAIL--Witness left the King's sea' vice la 1811, .and entind Into that of Sir William Gell imam d iet* after. Understands Italian pretty well Had the ma- Serietion With . liihjocchi in Italian, which witness undersold perfectly well. • Majocchi said, that the servants of the were determimed, if they met Ompteda, to give .him a good thrashing, aed kill them, if they could ; but that.Lieuteeant Hevraant had forbid Min to hurt him. This *as all that hia joy* said about killing eajtoa. • toed BLUM BOROUG.Witimoss stated that Ruccanelli *MI: four Alm foam —'t- The house of the Princess had" *gm.' coma s_ the osartiard was in the middle of it. ;Hari of LILUDSRDALE.Witness saw Louis Berganti, who was occupied Co living orders to the servants during tha rte lei had the conversation with Majocchi: Had heard Ms imehiNiention the subject before. Witness dim not recollect a - -msoseauf the manse of Alesandro . beret ear one of that name `" that he knew of, • • `. • ... Epirno,N.. 110". .••••• • • F.,t2minate.n. if WILLIAIL•CIibiItiNOTON Cinaintai. . 'AP ETL—a—Wittiess Itv.tit 'to Italy In VA ;_ haa ierved tout rim %turd the libroa4 vorler , dre John licresk.rd. . . , 17.4 4,1.11/11RP001[ 4 :—..Viiresa.didr it.o; hrev: names isfltbeeervants at Ruccanelli say.adtrie of them afterwards at . eltjl/1111 Maack, • "Adard dARRINGTON vridted to knoWtif the witness could ' rePilit'dla weds listd by Majocchi about killing Osnpteda, and in' luilian?—Xes, I can.. ' • 'TIKti do so?—This is what he said, " Itaxito tir/to anu tartarer. cite /of logyftsr h rf if viia doverilehe Zvi yr:rabic basitmart tistrannia cornewo cane in stem a /a serada." r The !buil appeared to: be generally oatisfied with this an. souk; but the interpreter, the: Marchese Spiaetti. was asked to . put a questlrs to the witness, in Italian: Tarts was done, anti the witness translated it immediately. ' Ur. Joint Liens SicAin was next called, and examined by Mr. BIONIIIA Entered the service of htr Royal liighoess.aboat twenty- one years ago.. Was appointed to her service by his *resent Majesty. Was at first in the capacity of cook ; but in a short time afterwards was promoted to be goitre if acted. Went abroad with her Royal Highness in August, 1814. Re.. members, when at Milan, that het jitoyal Highness had oc casion for a courier. Sir William bell ordered witness to , hire as one, a person who was recommenied by the Marquis de Gizelieghri. That person was Bergami. Had no com munication whatever with her. Majesty about hiring hint. • Recollects, when at Naples, that the sleeping - room of , ifergami was chan ged. A small cabinet was allotted to him. Wit. ness made that arrangement himself, without any dire c4ion from her Royal Highness. Had no previdus Communicatiod with her on the subject. His reason was, that there was a • glass door in the cabinet, which opened into the garden ; and be • thought it right, for safety, that some male servant should sleep . in it. During all the time he has lived in the service of her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales; her manner towards bet servants was uncenntionly kind, almost to a fault. This . i manner was not peculiar to any: of the servants, but tout . anon to them all. Witness has walked many times Wilk her • . Royal Highness by her command; in the pleasure-grounds at Blackheath very'oken. Her Royal Higness WOuld talk very condescendingly to him, and on steps,or.on rising ground, would take the assistance of his arm. Crosocanotioad by the Sor.senros-GzsmaAt. The amount of my salary from the Princess of Wales was 'COO a-year, which I had at her Majesty's pleasure entirely. Did you leave her Royal Highness at Naples ?—No, she left me—(A laseek).—l went from thence to Genoa by sea; and from thence I came to England. I did not go to her loyal Highness again until I went to bring her information of the death of the late King. I remember stopping at the country-horse previous to our arrival at Naples. I cannot tell whether on that night William Austin slept in the room of her Royal Highner. I had not made arrangements for the apartments of the suit/ there. At Naples there were several doors of communication with the passage leading to her Royal Highness's apartment. At the end of the passage there was not, to my recollection, a small cabinet. The doors of the rooms of Doctor Holland, Hieronimus, William Austin, and others of the suite, led into the passage. Bergami breakfasted in the steward's room. Will you swear that Bergami breakfasted in that room? —Mostly with us in that room, with the upper servants. He used to go down to the coffee-morn to get meat, for he did not like tea. At the ball at Naples I think the second dress her Royal Highness had on was a Turkish dressthe first was that of a peasant. Several persons called at Naples, after her Royal Highness =RA there, upon her. ' C a n you tell - whether on the first day of her arrival at Naples persons who called were kept waiting by her Royal Highness ? —I cannot. I did not Wait at the drawing-room. I was not the page. Do you not recollect going in quest of her Royal Mei nen, because persons were waiting for her appearance t It might be so, things of the kind have happened in this cowl try more than once; but I have no recollection whether it took place qr not. Bergami, at Naples, attended as a page in waiting, and shared that duty with Ilieronimui. lie was a courier on the road. You sraike of her Royal Highness having taken your atm, was it in cumquats* ore hesitation, nr false step I----Yes Yob did sot mean, to insinuate anything else by that ?—No.: feablione(saimahl, Mn pepsins war granted by her Royal Ilighneis to nit: ItWas Merely a continuance of my salary. I h a d i left* from bet 'royal Highoess to Carliruhe. I did not' bring any:witnesses ret Asis country. I never knew Berland n gin before I saw him at, When I went to communicate the i tidings of the death . gto her Royal Highness, silo was at Leghorn._ _ - ~ - -.us , Re-ezantined. I took the, keser.:4m.lllr. Leman, at Carlin:ie. .It was di rected to the Greg Chamberlain. It had her Majesty's seal upon it. Szenositied by the Lords. Lord ELLEN BOROU GH.—When Be rgami Was taken into - her -Royal Highness's service, did you make any Inquiry as to his cbaracter?—None. He was introduced be a Marquis; whose recommendation was thought sufficient. - Did •1011 observe that his behaviour was superior to that of 'most Couriers P—He was, in my opinion. He behaied very • properly. He was not quite so chatty as Italians generally ate ; and I believe he behaved very properly. Was his not bei3g so chatty the only reason you had foe think, ing him superior to most cburkri, or was bis behaviour gentle manly ?--llis behivioar was not pardcularly gentlemanly. He behaved well; but 'I am not in the habit of knowing couriers. • • Didou consider him too mach of 'a gentleman to act as a courier —He never shaved himself. He never. refused to do anything he was told to do—(A laugh). ' Did yon consider hii manners more those of a gentleman th a n of a courier ?-•-•They might be rather the manners of a gentleman of the lower. sort. Where did William Austin sleep during the journey to Na ples?--4n her 114a1 Highness's room. As far ai I reCollect he slept there on the way to Naples;bui at Naples I believe an al teradon took plate: • Tha.witness.was then examined by Lords boxotronsroae and ciescisas-i.:Witness stated that none of Bergand'S landiy Were in the service of the Queen when he went to Naplel.' . Witness Mred LiergaMi hale* de chandne and courier, and left him in that capacity. • The spirtmehts of the Queen, while at Napless,. - -ware near those of witness. A large passage or . collider sepa rated them ' - • 4: . To a question from Lord ORANTHAM; witness stated tbu William Austin had usually slept in the roan of the Queen previous to her gang to Naples. Soon aft* their arrivartherir her Masesorr said biwaa too aid, and must ha* a . seismal , ' apartment. • . • • Itegi of DARitIROTON-Distyou erect see any haproper fandligity on the part of the Queen towardi Selland W , -Ifitier, never; lam positive I never did: • Witnepifurthet stated that he Was the bearer et the dispatch • to borMojestt sanossacing the death of our late Sovereign. He was sent by her Majesty's legal advisers; no dispatch, ;D -amming the event was pent by Ministers. • While the Queen resided at Naples did' the ever breakfast alone with Bergami?—Never, never. if she had dime as would you haste knoWn it.?.-4 will woe say positively that it never did happen, but I believe la near did: • To questions from:the Lords Rnonsvoss, Ihminneasi, aid Lamiaanata, witness stated, that he reconemsd t h e cess going to the Opera at Naples on the seemed night atinr arrival, but. did not know at what time she *returned:— Never saw Bergazni until he was recommended*, him by the Marquis Oubiglied. Did.atot know •Whetisei he Was a marsied man at the dine or not: Witness had leave of her Majesty' to return to England, but was ordered to hold Maisel( in readiness to join her: _ • . . . The &rid HARROWBY asked a number of unimportant questions respecting the position of the rooms at Naples. Mr. Bacarnsunn objected to one. • question, which assumed a fact not stated by the witness. The question was not pressed. The Marquis of DOMINOS/AI and:Lerd Cssrsoara neat era mined the witness, who stated, that- a person, .to go * from the Queen's room while at' !lkples, to that el Beegansi, must pass the doors of tgerooms of Ut. Hou.axe, and other persons. Thu Beriami's manneri were far superior tb Those 4 tine same class of servants: Mr. Bicoonaan wished the Lord CH/414MA* to 'esk w i tness if t h ere we re any doors in the pdslii_ngesage lending from the room of the Princess and that le ti e r gan o_ y es rhere were two. The exa mination of this Witness was a s=ed until a quz. , - ter-past four o'clock, when the House • AI ■ '‘ ■ T I I.