Star. — London, England, 1802-05-22 00:00:00

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OP LORDS, FRIDAY, MAY sr. Counfel were heard relative to the Scotch Appeal, John Morthland, Ffq. Advocate, and John Johnibme,. Printer, in Edinburgh, v. John Cadet), Efq. one of his•ifajefirs Jußims of the Peace for, and a Deputy Lieutenant of the County of Raddington, namely, Mr. Adam, at eonliderable length, as leading Csiunfcl for the Appellants, after which their Lordibips deferred the further bearing till Tuefday next. The Militia Regulation Bill was brought up from the Com mons by the Secretary at War. The Lottery and the Elediai Cornmi&nets Bill were prelented by Mr. Alezander . On the motion of Lord WA Lit NOTIA $l, the Militia Bin was ordered to bg printed for the ufe of their Lordibips. A number of private Bills were brought up from the Com mons by the Marquis of Worecßer, Mr.-Lefevre, Mr. Laf cellcs, and other Gentlemen. On the queftion being put for the Houfe to re (Ave itfelf into a Committee on the Manure Sale Bill, Lord Hot.T.avn rofe, not, he raid, to oppofe the Bill altogether, but to Rate his reafons why the farther progiefi of the Bill fhould be poll poned. He espreXed Es difapprobation of the praltice too prevalent of late, of recurring to the lAgiflature on occafions not of fufficient import ance to engage its attention, or on rubjeCts of fuch a nature, as that Members of Parliament in ge neral could not he fuppored to be fufficiently con verfant with. The Bill in gitellion was exprefaly liable to both thcfe objeCtions ; it would appear as if even the very dunghills were raked for matter to legiflate upon. It was certainly below the dig nity, and as certainly not in the province of the Legiflature of the country, to defcend to the con fideration of fuch low and trivial (objets. An. other confideration was, that the fubjelt of the prefent Bid was emphatically of that nature in which the country could not well imagine that the Members of the ether Houfe of Parhament, and fill lef, that the Members of that Houfe could be adequately informed. Indeed it was no difya ragPment to them that they were not : for no cne could fufpeft, that the noble natures-of their Lord 'hips, or their general habits or purfuits, would lead them to wialyfe the contents ()Ca dung cart —for fuch, literally, was the fubjeft matter of the prefent 1311. He lamented that Bills of a trifling and unimportant nature had of late to far multi plied, as it might be laid they were fent up to that Houle by the Winchefter bufhel. On the con trary, he would tuber fee the number of flames deereafed ; there were neceffarily many obfolete and inefficient ones upon the book, and thole tend ed to check, inflead of invigorating the operation of thofe which were neceffary and efficient. With refped to theft kind of regulations, the Legifla titre fhould not adopt a meafure without being previoufly informed of the nature of the feveral fads, and the neccfrary fads conneded with them, or very ferietr confequences may enfue. Of this they had a very linking inflance, About two Sef lions hack, when Parliament hallily adopted fume legiflative provifion with refpeft to a very import ant on which, as the event ffiewed, they were not fufficiently informed. He alluded to the occafion on which the Le filature were undir the neceflity of retracing their Reps, in order to prevent the people from being poifoned, and proceeded to repeal the Bill without waiting to go through the ordinary forms of Parliament. With refped to the particular cafe before the Houfe, he did not, as far as his information went, fee the leaf need fit), for a legiflative provifion on the fubjed. Our Code of Laws were furely not fo deficient as not to afford an adequate cure for the evil, which the Bili profeired to remedy, which was merely to fupprefs the praLice of felling a commodity as that which it was not. There were, he was con fident, remedies to be found for this evil in the ' multitude of legiflative regulations which already exifted. However, in the prefent inflanee, to give their Lordfhips an opportunity of gaining infor mation on the fubjed, which would enable them to judge of the neeeffity of fuch meafure, he would propofe, "That the Committee on the Bill be poßponed till Monday next." There abferiations teeming to meet the fenfe of the Houle, the queflion was put, and the commit ment of the Bill ordered to be poßponed accord ingly. Some private bufinefs was then difpofed of, after which their Lordihips adjourned till Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The S tttttt communicated to the Houfe a Letter from General Lord Hutchinfon, dated Turin, Bth May, exprcffive of his Le :ditties acknowkdgmeats for the Vote of Thanks par fa! by the Houfe in his favour. Mr. SPIAKIR afro Rated, that he bad retvived Letters from the Lord Lieutenants of the feveral Counties; conveying the fend/fleets of gratitude experienced by the different Volunteer Corps at their conduet having been honotfted with the appro bation and thanks of the Houk. Several Petitions from the London and Weihninfter Fire In foresee Companies were precasted againit the Rent !aura= Bill, which were ordered to lie on the table • and ft was then moved to poftpone the keend reading of the Bill till Tuefday next. A divifion took place—Ayes, 26—Noes. The Houk, upon the motion of the Marquis of WOICISTILIL, ordered, that the Rev. Dr. Vincent Owed be medial to preach before the Houk, at St. Margaret's Church, /•Veftrnin- Rev, on the tft of June next, the Day appointed for a general Thankfgiving. The Lottery Bill was read a third time and pared. The Hoar went into a Committee on the kith Linen BIB,— The Chairman reported progrefs, and the Committee bad leave to At again on Monday next. The ATTOR Pour GEN brought In eke Alien R-gelation Bill ; read a tuft and ordered to be read a krona time on Mon day next. Mr. DAWSON requetted to know from the Hon. Gentleman by whom the hilts Courts of Law 818 wasintroduced, whether it was his intention to carry that Bill through before the next Serum ? Mr. Laren replied In the affirmative, adding, that the rea fon of fa frequently delaying the prop& of the Bill was, in or- der only to waft for the advice of a great Law Authority in Inland. The (*attention of the Repert of the Committee oo ihe Cnntrovrcd EleCtion MU was deferred to Tuefday next. The Bill for regulating Controverted hilt Elations, was read a Wt. and ordered to be read a keeled time, on Thurfdliy. The Silver Drawback Bill was :sad a third time, and COTO witerd for to-morrow. A Wage from the Lords, announ ed their effort to the Pet-hoer Doty, Marine, Mutiny, ani, Indemnity Bilis. The Field Crop Bill was read a third time an.l paid. Mr. A AAAAA pea moved diet Accounts of the dill:lurk/twat of terrain kWh Exelsequer Ills he laid en the table.—Ordered. The sin for appeindag Additional Commilisaners for the re dnelion of the frith - 14atiosal Debt, was read a 4A, I h4 41 ' &red to be read a foxed thus to-osorrow. The Coroners • Bill tins ordered to hand for Wedndday. Mr. Wre=twre withdrew his Motion relpeettng the Volun- I tom Corps of Ireland, and gave notice of Ids intention to move on Monday for a Bill to enable his Majelty to accept of the Cervices of there Corps during Peace. The Rept* of the Scotch Militia Bill was ordered to be taken into further confederation on Tuefday. 'The Report of the Caton Manufadtory Apprentice Bill is to be received un Tuctday. The frith Loan Bill wee read a fecond time, and ordered to I be committed to-morroW. The Report of the Committee on the hi& Mariners' Bill was received, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time to- trOYION. Mr. CORRY faid, that be found bindelf under the neceffity of poftponing the frith banners that Rood for Monday to Wed nefday next, as it was impoifiblc to have fome papers neceffary for information circulated among the Members by that time, as loins were only newly printed, and fome had only been moved for to-clay. IRISH LINEN MANUFACTURE. The Houfc having, on the Motion of Mr. Fos. TER, refolved itfell Into a committee on the Irifh Linen Bill, Mr. WICK KAM obferved, that as the Law now flood, the Colledor at each Port fummoned a Jury of three competent perfons to examine the Flat ! Seed imported, in confequence of which examine.; tion he branded it either as good or bad. The Linen-Board having found this mode of examina tion impelled, propofed as a remedy to appoint an Officer of their own in each Port, with power to examine and deckle upon the quality of all Flax Seed imported. He was of opinion-that the power of examining and deciding upon the quality of the Flax Seed imported, fhould not be given wholly to the Infpedor appointed by the Linen Board, but at the fame time that the Colleftor fhould not brand any Flax Seed until the fame fhould be certified to him by the Officer appointed by that Board. He concluded by propoling an Amend ment to the above erred. Mr. FOSTER °Merced, that this was a meafure ' of confiderable importance, of the maintenance of I a great number of families in Ireland depended upon the importation of good Flax Seed. He wifhed that the Infpedors appointed by the Linen Board, (hould be wholly refpontible to that Board for the goodnefs of the feed imported. The Right I Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Wickham), had propored that the Infpedor thould examine it, but that the' Collettor should brand it. The brand was a tell of the goodnefs of the feed : if the Right Hon. Gentleman thought the Colledor llonld brand it, and receive a fee, he (Mr. Fofter) had no objec tion, but let the Infpzetor brand it afro. Mr. BE RISFORD defended the Colleftors from any imputation of neglelt of duty. Several ar ticles, he faid, might be fmuggled concealed amongft Flax Seed, and it was important that the Collators fhould examine it for the purpofe of dill covering thole articles, if any fuch there were. Mr. Fos Tea obferved, that the power would (till remain to the Colledors to fearch for fmuggled goods, whether this Bill pallid or not. Mr. BERE S FORD and Mr. FOSTER explained. Lord CASTLEREAGH laid, that the AMendment, with a little alteration, might be made to meet the ideas of both parties. The Linen Board, in order to prevent bad Flax Seed from being imported, had thought it a proper meafure to have tors ; but it would be going too far to fay, that the King's Officers fhould not alto infpat : he thought that the Infpator and Collator would be checks on each other, and that the duty would be better done. A very fimple alteration was re • quired, which was, that each fhould braltd the Flax Seed, and then there would be a double fe- curity for its goodnefs : this alteration would, he thloght, anfwer the objelt of both parties. Mr. Wic glum profefred himfelf perfatly lath fled with the Amendment propofed by the Noble Lord. Every attention had been (hewn by Go vernment to the Linen Board; all that was defired by that Body was, that the Flu S:ed fhould not pars into the Country without a Certificate from the Infpator that it was -found : perhaps the Amendment of the Noble Lord might better an fwer that purpofe. Mr. ALEXANDER thought it efrential that the Collator fhould at with the Infpeitor. Mr. STEWART thought it highly probable • that the Amendment propofed by the Noble Lord would anfwer both purpofes. Mr. Coaav faid, that when this fubjat was be fore under confideration, he had Sated the obfer vations that occurred to' him, which he now beg ged leave tq recall to the attention of the Commit tee, in order to Ihew that the vote he fhould give was perfeely conliltent with the principles he had before maintained. He then Sated that there was reafon to believe that the duty which was to be performed by theColledors had been in fume cafes negligently performed. In Paying this, he could not be fuppofed to make any charge againit the Collators perfonally ; but though he acquitted them of any ad ofCommiffion, yet he Sill thought that in fome cafes there was an Omiffion of their duty, in not fufficiently attending to the mode of the examination of the Flax Seed. He therefore thought that fome arrangement was necelrary.— He wifhed to exprefs his willingnefs to accede to the principles of the Linen Board, which was to call in the Infpedors of that Board in aid of the gollators. He had refereed himfelf on that occa lion upon two points; the &ft was with regard to the Patronage of the Crown, the other related to the Tax to be laid upon the Public, in order to form a compenfation to the Collators, who were . to continue to he paid, although they were to be abfolved from the performance of the duty. By the mode now propofed, the Patronage of the Crown remained entire; by the prefent mode no Tax was %) be laid upon the Public, in order to furnith a compenfation for perfons who were not to perform the duty. There points being fettled" be felt himfelf at liberty to concur in the arrange ment propofed for continuing the Collators with the aid of the Infpedors of the Linen Board. 'Be ing thus at liberty, according to the principles he had before advanced (and which by no means went the length that had been infinuated, of throw ing blame upon the Colleaurs), he Stouts' accede to the,plan now propofed. With regard to the Amendment, he undertlood it to be, that the In fpator Mould put a Stamp upon the Ct(k, where as by the Amendment of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Wickham), the Infpdlor was to give a Cer. tificate to the CAleanr, upon which he was to' brand the Calk. What was the difference between the'two plans ?—ln filbftance none : by the firft amendment, the, branding depended upon the Cer tificate of the Infpeaor, the Colleaor being only a Minifterial Officer. In the prefent cafe, the In fpeaor, inftead of a Certificate, which is to be filed in the Cullom Houle, was to affix a mark with a hot iron upon the calk. Thefe regulations were in effea the fame, but if the plan now propoled, of branding inftcad of certifying by the Infpeaor, was more generally agieed on, he was willing to concur in ,and the more fo, as it was perfealy conformable' 'to the opinion of theCornmittee above (lairs. Lord CASTLERTAOH contended, that the Brand was fuperior to aCertificate, and was a better pro. teltion againft the probability of unfeundnefs in the feed. Mr. CORRY laid, the Certificate mull specify the mark and number of the package, and he thought it would be equally efficacious as a Brand. Mr. DAWSON laid, he had heard nothing to convince him that the Bill in its original (late might not have anfwered every purpofe that was wanted. After a few words from Mr. ORMSBY, Mr. Fosrst fuggefted the propt . e , y of reporting progrefs, and Acing leave to fi t again. The CHANCELLOR of the ETCHEVER raid, it mull be the with of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and of every one, to enfure difpatch to this meafure, and therefore he thought it would be better to go through the Committee, and bring up whatever claufes were to be propofcd on the Report, as a (lege would be thereby gained. A short converfation enfued between Mr. Fos- TER, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEOYER, Mr. WICKHAM, and Mr. HosHouss (the Chairman), when, it being found that one of the amendments propofed went to enact a penalty, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQPIR obferved, that no provifion enforcing a penalty could be pro poled on the Report. After tome .further converFation between Mr. FOSTER, the ATTORNEY GENERAL, and the CHAN cELLoa of the ExcHEctusit, it was agreed to re port progrefs, and afk leave to fit again. The Hoeg haring refumed, Mr. Hosnouss reported progrefs, and the Committee were ordered to fit again on Monday. POVCE. The Houle, on the motion of the ATTORNEY Gassiest., having refolved itielf into a Committee, to confider of certain Ads refpeding the Police of the Metropolis, The ATTORNEY GENERA j. faid, the objed he had in view was to increafe the falaries of the Ma giftrates of the Police Offices, and of the Officers employed there; and alfo the wages of the Con ftables. He propofed to increafe the falaries of the Magiftrates to pool. per annum, and wages of the Conftables to 16s. per week. He moved that pro vifion fhould lie made out of the confolidated fund, if neceffary, to defray the charge of additional fa laries to the Jultices and Officers employed at the Police Offices.—Agreed to.—Report on Monday. INSOLVENT DEBTORS BILL. Mr. W. WYNNE moved the recommital of the Bill for extending the provifions of the Lords' Aa. Mr. Mc MOLLS was averfe to the confederation of this important meafure, in fo thin a Houfe. Mr. W. Wvems laid, that the prowets of. the Bill had been fo often retarded for the lame yeafon, he Mould not content to poftpone it any farther. Mr. NICHOLLS (poke at tome length againft the principle and proviiions of this Bill.—He condemn ed it for giving as much facility to the fade Of free hold property as of tables or chairs ; and becaufe, that if an ellate fhould be fold under a judgment obtained, if that judgment fhould afterwarth be reverted by this Bill, the Defendant would only be entitled to claim the money which the tale of his property might have produced, and not the pro perty itfelf. In his eftimation it went to , abrogate and reverie the whole fytlem of law, with refpea to landed property. If freehold eftates were tut fered to be feized in execution, as the Bill propof ed, there would be a total revolution in the land ed intereft. Country Gentlemen would be deprived of their hereditary polreffions ; and eltates, which for centuries had defect:tied in lineal fucceffion, would devolve to uturers, lawyers, and money kriveners. Under all the circumftances, not con ceiving that there was any preffing immediate ne ceflhy for this meafure, he moved that the recom mitment fhould be poftponed to this day three months. Sir H. Mitomay fupported the amendment. Mr. HARCOURT difapproved of the Bill, becaufe it would put freehold property under the bankrupt laws, without allowing the proprietors the advan tage of that to which all Bankrupts were entitled, namely, what was called a whilesvgfr,or a certificate. Mr. BURTON wifhed the Bill to-be recommitted, in order that the unexceptionable claufes might be retained,• and that thole which were objcaed to might be re fervedfor dikutfion on a future occallon. Mr. Haat tsott admitted there were tome good 'parts in the Bill, but that they were conneaed with claufes, which to him were to abominable, that he fhbuld recommend to get rid altogether of the heterogeneous mixture. He though tt rather rafts in a young man wantonly to propofe fuch an in novation an our old code of laws, without conful tation or advice with lawyers of tome experience. Mr. W. Wye w e vindicated himfelf from the charge of raihnetsr which he was perfuaded the , Hon. Member•awould not have attempted to im lone to him had se attended his duty in that Houk, and known that fo far back as lait Seffion, he gave notice of his intention to bring this mea lure forward—a meafurc which, in fa& had the approbation of two of the higheft legal charaaers this cauntry had long known—one of whom, un happily for the fake of morals, religion, and law, WAS now no more ( Lord Kenyan)—and the other (the Lord Chancellor), had favoured the Bill with his atUllance throughout. In proof of the neceffity which called for Inch a Bill as the prefent, the Hon. Member Raced, that he had a letter in his pocket which mentioned, that there were not lets than as perfons in the Fleet Prifon who declined to avail themfelves of the Taft Infolvency M, becaufe they • were unwilling tb pay their jun debts. There was alto, he undernood, a Captain of a fhip, who, having furrendered his veffel to an enemy, with out any refinance, alledging at the time of fur render, that he would not fight for the Under. writers—an anion was in confequence brought again(' him, and a verdia was obtained for fix Ihoufand pounds damages. This Captain was now, under that verdiet, a prifoner in the King's Bench pat, refuting to make any compromife, though frequent propofals were made to him from the Plaintiff, and though he was notorioufly a man of confiderable property. The Hon. Member alto Rated a circumftance with refpeet to an Irifh Sur geon, who remained in prifon in South Wales, and followed his profeffion, chufing rather to do fo than pay his debt of fix hundred pounds, though poffeffed of a confiderable landed eftate in Ireland. The Hon. Member concluded with expreffing his readinefs to give up the claufe retpeSing real pm. perty, rather than to endanger the fate of the Bill. The Houfe went into the Committee, and the Chairman was direded to report progrefs, and afk leave to fit again. The Houfe rammed, and the Committee was ordered to fit again Tuefday next. The other orders of the day being gone through, the Houfe adjourned till to-morrow. LONDON. SATURDAY, MAY as. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK: t_ 3 Per C. Coe money, 74111 or account, 740. 4 pee Cent. 44-01s1 3 per C . News S per Cent . unit Omalun3 i is. PUCE OF STOCKS YESTERDAY. Bank Stock 189 Long Ana. aoj 23-16 3 per Ct. Red. 731 46 India Stock 1194 • 3 Per Cent. COAL 74 Imp. 3 per Cent. 7 2 } 4pa Cent. 8 Excheq. Bills is. to . preen. 3 pet C. A. 421 U 11 Omnium 14 prem. Ditto, 1797.-.103} 104 2 Conf. for the op. 76/ I I Yefterday was the day of e fecund payment of the Om. Mom. The Foods were a little better affix the tranfedion was fettled. DUBLIN,MAY Celt Gov. Deb. 100. Exchango—Dublin on London 14. COURSE OF EXCHANGE. _ Amfterdatn, 10 14 2U. ' Cadiz 36} circa. Gawa 41i Ditto, at light to It Madrid 34i paper Lithon 68 Rotterdam, to 25 2U. Ditto 37f, died. Oporto 681 Hamburgh 32 7at U. Babas 37 Palermo 90 Alton* 32 8 a U. Leghorn sit - pence par 0; . Cadiz 34* in paper NaPtes 44 Dublin i$ Paris, I day's slate, 23 to-Ditto 2 Ut. 23 14 liv. bourdeaux • - T____ 2lXas 16 Lim Venice. S 9 Pyres PicoliEffeEtiTi Reel. This day a Mail arrived from, Holland. Our complete Pets of Paris Journali to the. tgth have alto come to hand—thofe received . yellerday were the Mmiteurs of the 17th and 18th, without any of the unofficial Papers. By letters from Berlin we learn, that the inter. view bet Ween the King of Paussia and the Em peror of Ruffia has been determined on. His Majeily Osa King, accompanied by 'chi 04.1 teen. and his brother Priwe Haim, were to quit Charlottenburg on the .zsth of this month i be will review the different corps of troops cantoned on his route, and .will be at Mcrae% on the Huh of June, at which time the Emperor of Russia and the Qtand Duke Conway/IN/ are expelled to be at that place. The fame letters Rate, that the Emperor of Russia will be accompanied by the Emprefs and the Emprefs Dowager. The inter• view will laft four days, and on the morning of the 15th the two monarchs will let out on their return. Great preparations are making at Memel for the reception of their Impery Majeffies.— Three of the fineft Court carriages, each drawn by eight fuperb horfes, have already been fentthither. It is afferted in the political circles on the Con tinent, that the Eleaor of Mentz bas received a formal affnrance, both froth the French Govern ment and the Court of Vienna, that he will not be comprehended among the Etclefiaftical Prin ces whole States will be fecularifed. lie owes his prefervation to the circumstance of happening to hold the place of Arch-Chancellor of the Empire, and Diralor-General of the Germanic Diet. But in confequence of the arrangements agreed upon between the principal Powers of Europe, his pre• fent polliffions on the banks of the Mayne will be exchanged for an equivalent portion of territory in Weftphalia. In regard to the other Ecclefi aftical Principalities, there can be no doubt that they will be all fecularifed, except that of Grand Mailer of the Teutonic Order, which it is raid will be preferved. There will even be no more Ecele fiaftical Elatori ; and the Arcbbithop of Mentz will prefide in the Ekaoral-College as Arch. Cha ncellor of the Empire. According to letters from Vienna of the 2d, the hate of the Qsase of Nam's, health is fo much worfe that the Phyficians have judged the adrui niftration of the Sacrament neceffary d In other words they have no hope of her Majefty's recovery. M. Faeroe, attached to the Ruffian Legation at Conftantinople, has arrived at Vienna : he is go ing, it is Paid, as Ruffian Ginful to Corfou. The reigning Count of Yfenbourg-Budingen, and Lim bourg-Gaildorf, died at Meerholz, on the 4th of this month, at the age of 74. The ballot for the nomination ola new Grand Mailer of Malta has given no fatisfatory refult.— EAch of the different Longue: of the Order, who contributed to the elation, prefented a Candidate. the principal intereft feems to be in favour of the old Grand Matter, M. ns Hots? mit, who hope to be fuccefsfuL Pails, Mar 03.-. The diftilliag of fpirits fro'