Star. — London, England, 1828-02-22 00:00:00

• ate city of Cork, praying for Catholicli;rianCiPatin ; and also similar Petitions frosts six places in the county of Cork. Mr. SHIRLEY presented a similar Petition from the Roman Catholic Inhabitants of a place In the county of Monaghan. Sir J. NEWPORT presented-aoduailar Petition from a place in Londonderry. The Petitions were severally ordered to be printed: Sir W. II EATHCOTE presented a Petition from the Arch deacon and Clergy of Winchester, against the Unitarian Marriage Bill.—Ordered to be tinted. Lord A LTHORP gate notice that he should on Thursday, March 6, move for leave to bring in a Bill for the better regulation of thrTaililgtf 'Rabat etections in Cities and large Towns. Mr. JAMES BROUGHAM -promoted a Petition from John Banter and others, against the return of Sir Henry Hardioge as a representative of the city of Durham, to serve• in the present Parliament.—The •Pitttion was ordered to be taken Into consi deration on Tuesday, March 11. ` - Mr. KEN HEDY gave notice that he would, bn Taesday, Match 4, move for the appointment 'of a Committee to inquire ince the state Of the Law of Entail In Scotland. Mr. MARSHALL moied for i statement, to be arrahgettac. cording to the scale or different classes, of the Stamp Duties', re ceived in the years 1825, 1826, ari d 1827.—Ordered. SirJ.NEW PORT presented a Petition from the RomanCatbolk Inhabitants of Four klile Water againot the high Vestry ;liilloaa The Hon. Baronet concurred fully with the sentiments expressed in the Petition.—Ordered to be printed. Sir J. NEWPORT presented a Petition from the Roendn . Ca. tholie Inhabitants of a Parish in Waterford, against the Irish Sub. Letting Act. Petitions from the Protestant Dissenters of the following places, praying for the repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts were pre. seated by the following Members :—By Mr. It. Staten, from New port Pagnell, Stony Stratford, Miley, High Wycombe. Winslow, Penny Stratford, North Crawley,* Great Kinfurd, Wesborn-under. Wood,Amersham, and seventeen other plices in Bucks; by Sir G. Ilesterson, frOmHorthampton, Castle Hill Chapel, Northamten, and King's Mead's Field's Chapel; NOkbampton.; by Sir Was. Havessesais from Southampton, and Abbey Chapel, Romsey; by Mr. Plana sr as from cranwound, true?, and a place in' Cornwall by lord A LISION frokti a place in the `County of Niarthitnpnlit; ' byratinel Coartni from Aylesbury and Marlow:hp' Mr:Terra fedi* 'Bridgewater ; by id r: Dtexassoir front' Otartotbary. ton; and Honingtort . ; by Mr. Corteas frcirit a phee in Sue 'by Sir ilinkw Waits' ausi from Burtolf-upon-Trent ; by Sir . E. O wl from Deal; by Mr. Moon: from Watlidgf4rd by hls s ailithit from Holyhead, Monitors, TrOirbridge . -Medlin:V(Bli' and •Msveral other places; by Mr G. liskrueota friers •Ullrigton• and Tar:deaf place; by Sir C. COLS from • the County of Glamorgan, liAllfries, and another place; by Sir threw front Pelblitoke Dock "Slid seven other places in . Pembrokeshire.; by Mr. Jot trert Ueda PO; terstieW, fients.--The Petitions were severally ordered to be printed. `. TUX KALI ACI.• - ? • - • - Mr.. BLACKBURN presented a Pettit,. him the Masters of Wirwklishire, and of St. Helen's, Newport, praying for the Repeal of the Mak Acs passed last Session. • Mr. F. WEST presented a similar Petition from-the Maltateve of Denbigh. Sir JOHN WROTTES LEY presented a similar Petition from. the Maltsters of -Dudley, he the County of Worcester. Mr. PORTMAN said, that seeing the Right Hon- Master of the Mint in his place, he would avail himself of that opportunity of asking the Right Hon. Gentle man, whether •it was his intention or the intention of Government to tningforward any measure to perma nently relieve the „Maltaters - from serious am/ over! whelming inconveniencesashicti the. Acc of last Session had :!crown upon them--(Hear, hear)? He ,put the qrseition jo the Right Hon. - Gentleman, because he be hetet:l4lA the measure was intrOducedinto#.baillome by. him., That some great alteraxion should be made is the law as it at present stood was evident from the fact, that it had scaicely, come into operation, when Ow Government found it. necessary, by an act ofits own, virtually to suspend, ix.. He ,therefore wished to. know from the Right Hon. Gentleman, whether any measure was in contemplation upon the subject. -Mr. ['CURIES said, that he had no objection what ! ever to Rive the best ansa er he could to the Hon. Mem ber for Dorset; although be should, have been much better pleased if the questinn had . been put %hen his Right, Hon. griond the, Chancellor of t)le Ealchfilag was in his place. In the . situation he held, he klt hardly competent to say any thing positive upon the subject; but he had recently had a conversation with his Right, Optuntrage Friend upon it,.and be unders, stood from him. that . it. was his intention withoot loss of time to .consult with the patties imme diately interested, in order to see what alterations might be desired, and,..if they could he, tffectedrr (Hear, heat). .He,was sure that the Heise would give him, credit when he-said thstt in introducing the Act complained of, he had no ether motive in view than the due protection of the R,eveopts from the ,art.s of the false trader— ( Hear, hear). ,fl4l.was of.course,,as it was his duty, anxious to provide for_ the.-collecting of. the Re venue in the way which would be least inconvenient and burthensome to the parties froariviromit Seas to be, gathered, arsd it Wars in that . fee.lirrithist be had giiten.in terviews.-tooll-t,ho-15ePuties from the Kiltstarh who wished to-asake• any . . suggestions upon the subject., (Hear, bear). • * had attentively. listened .to their re presentations„and con>plied. ,with them as far as 2W, siblet indeed, ho AhoPgio ssben , heintioauceti asensea r sure that be had .sq,compietely met their views that it could not but win k well. HON.ever, when it came into' operatioo,he was soon given to tnderstand,thatit threw great and serious . Olostrtickism ig,.,the way of . the Lair dealer, and he boa ,consesinently.aoi,sod, its snspension. i He certainly must allow, .that .in .the ntuectioas.which were made to him, there appeared, a be d great daill.of! justice; .but he must also add that d' procceiredlrprn i part es. 1144 never teen ,h49(f , sioasly expressed any. &sire for an ioterrtrinwpa(ttear), Heorould only damns the House to add, that his Right Ikm4 : Friend the . Chancellor of the- Exchequer-could have no other. objeci t to effect, than the 091. P.ritkiCiril of the Revenue,that,he woul be found toady to men ljgal4..tbe subjxct hilly, and desirousof affording every psicticable relief to the Maltsters—(lJear,. hear). .. stArts:rzatit..fut*alia7;ONS ? • io,continoaiione.Nont that t on my legs,. with .the. permission of the House, I willi take this opportunity., to correct auerroneous impression' which has gone abroad, ante . one . parka( timmatement" wen .oniteceditO liwaka.tbA Vie; .(he Right lion. Gentleman was obliged to suspend his ad-. dress,for a brief interval, whilst Member:who crowded' into the House at this moment took their s eats.] lam have no right ta make Ibis claim upon the in4tog,ence of the Honsf:—bOt.Wheterraonal,feq li ngs' are deeply concerned, it has been the practice of the, House to grant this, indulgence--(Hear, hear)....-There is one part, Sir, of what I stated upori the occasion In' qoesfios, upon vrhicft great stress has hee:g laid, a; nuPgri o l, lll ( l giVqtallt,Poioto at wa!iahf, "4 1 #..Phite, has:beta stated xlse-wberte,•ana, much 'Mat' *lead. As upon me .the appearance of a snis-stato meat, I wish to exelairs it. kontion . hak already, been pit.AMaeliton,ll ll l.Poigt; 1 14, # 1 .0 1 4 , 11 4,41 11 A1i/VP rightly comprehend it. I mention this tq.akow, .that, my ,sileace.di4 not proceed from any w,ant wpm to the Hoaosestblo -Member vrho .put. the, question stated upon the occasion, that I had heard with great surprise that the resignation of m Ri t I-foa l :Friend had been made knowu to the hia ,Of • ).4, gcleitrie nilmt an the 29th. ef RlN,Mhert usy words to tbia effect very correeily stated, in, sdAtp of those . yery iageniQui an4,9Tr.abtc -PRWicatiftsi tp not snow 4sartiPOßJY;,asieftit. X djii .2114. omin4 Jlsy denial to my not having known it -at sil,lant.to. nay. not having known that it was 04 on the *9'4 of.Pecember. My sr** Of knowledge applied inthe date, not to id)e fact.. M# subsgtrtnnt 11111 of Minailleesta via soon- iiiiMismisk ly to the fact itself, that it is impossible that I sho il. have pretended a want of knowledge of it—(Hear. hear, hear). —What I stated had, refestpee solely to the Silith.of December, sod I said that it was most import ' ant for Mete know the date of the resignation, and that that day stud. the .sth of Ja in trip 'nuary;i:ittels"Cheer NbZemeenan at th e bead of the Admini , spation, I..was no?tinfgrPf4.9f ihc.fitc.t.• I YC'Pe.4!) 4'41 was wholly ignorant that the slifference between tad would cause the resignation of my Right Honourabk blend, and I complained that it was only ,ne thnt n• ht I was informed of the date , whereas it had known it at the time, it might, Ido not,..say it would, have p , Juced sows alteration in city, Course.. : It was on, the of Jan. at oaght.-1 was then io, the country.--that . knew that rhich Loi!ski . fo, base known ,before. ',kis a StycHig Aorroboratiottj .9f : what .I * 119,11 state, Ulf the w..rds I now use were expressed distinctly lis two of ; thi morning papers. 'I hive Nothing to add to thii.stetei, merit. .Sir...l l knee 14114d0f declarations Which have been made elsewhere upo n this subject, ,with pain and term, because the necessity of those declarations sup;.' poses an inieki.oh.on my past, to.conrey something like a denial to the subject matter if them. I : will, ipoiteiet, rtanuy.exo.4A wbit base . been,my own feelings orio , !them, 1 think,,Air c that whenever a. men, entitle d. to i ' emisideretiot l / 4 speaks of, his motives —especially when . 4 Pia a distinguished,chuactet.Such as I ansallnding *in, the. present, . care-..when such, a man speaks of acs IW+, lives, it i enough taint* ell minds ps.to .that pottn4 and so. Sir, it ,is,.with me Ippon . the.. resent oecassinore But this lam cutitind to Add..lll just ic n/i#L. , . 1 . 11 . d hound to t add, in neyadhesence to . truth, that:notning can, alter my fonvicuon th#: the trifling, .citeconstapee betwixt my Right:Hon. Friend and myself, Which ,I was at all times ready. amicably to settle, ..and chose my, re f . ! tiremegt from office .sts,the ea.iest mode for that purpose -.-I,pay, Sir, that. I never can believe that a difficolly so easily .tormon,nted, and so. trivial s in its consequences, ciosildhave been, or saes, the operative cause in the dis,. solution of the last AdminiAration. lam convinced it was othets. ise,. Ido nut believe—no one will heliesi that my letter to thet : :qUarter was a circumstance in ope t rat•uss tnlsteakup a Gastpsnmentnot Severed by othei cau!efir..(Hear.. heari, .. ~ , !. • MT*. I. OVNCOMPE (of' t 3 1er 603 4 : 4! etdr.ez‘. - cum th at there . fin trespassing upoi the House upon this *recision is, the speech of the Right flp.n. :Gentle ap* ogissite s and the natmlishmeat .which dint .speech bass Ck(4o l ,:ia my,p4nd ; for 14, senses. Must be gone, I rlittnat.lieir.. at ,which the Rip } it' ikon. Gentleman gitpeated. (Ea:wench in . the ".cnuise Of. hit ipeeeb, namely, that for ; till! .first tirkte i the Other night he.heard of the InsjytattOn,of thoßtght - ,1404 1: Secretary of the COltinies -.Alem), fihatl heard ; and most of the (Skids sound me lies rd o pc- coocsiived they heard, the s*inivillipg ! ,A eta therefore serprt i sed that the Right Hon. ptutileman blsottlfl, dire e days afterwards, come down to the lipase, awl .IP',lii th e ficclaPtiPn he 11 of .11or made . I suppose he will !mitt sal t . that he was misinterpreted . weep * ?Sas alleged to bate kkninVit,".;—(Cheers)—.allock Ing..tp, : the plPt.to break noihe Government. the oar sounds in ,toy ears at this moilent as strongly. as the other. ' l can only say, that my mind hat come to the fArne conclusion with reference to whit be has ,said to; night as it .chid upon his statement, on *list night; namely, that his object : was to mystify the subject. If that. was his object, he has admirably succeeded ; but if.his Object was to explain, he has miserably failed. 1 1 1 . hlr.,l4pßßlES—lhe House will allow me, perhaps. 'MO to ±titg.that . which the liqtr Njetniser : eaunoplave heard, .1 my . then, for the secondttme, as f FoOhlaca tyre,piosiottlie correctness ,of mulifspliop t t h at two of the (Flung.. Papers . reported nest itinirJhot .1 - did use these . w ads distinctly which I have solid, 4 aunt They opted ust distinctly th a t my surprisit *cons, pot that ,I had pot . head of the tesignation of my Right, Honourable F. end., but that I did not hear that it ,took place on the 09th .of .pecetnher, althpygb 4 did hear of it on,.the sth oiJalitury. If cite A o ts. gett! demo choose to doubt,tne, whielshe v er,ill.-.1444 sax that be doer, he may lead those papal. w h ich , 4.41 0 , trt at liberty to do—(Haar).i o e l.ord MlLTOl*l•4lysecollectiOn of whni'llassed nn, occasion in sluestion :does not agree wit h Wtit - Right Hon. G011846111,11 . 1ths now stated.,; . §ut,j t am . . to Conte tegrAss that it was as he hai.ohi stmed. f . iftens A hear).,Wlint.bas fallen from liita t llow,exer. this, yrs:pos t ai wstpcs..m.l4unday, appears to me to be i *r.u. nag withinpßorfeick.4(Cheers). He said That it, ,was the ipteinioa r o4, net,.know it be used the wind Wasof pj(es . , yos'l, 7 .14,4 events, that there WILi 11 ,11. 1 9.i5 11 4 0 .1ir10.ak..pp dm 4apinitiration. _ Remit! thist_hit . letter, Was "ply ihe.pretence, and then he added, 4 , !, ‘ lttiow,,it7.--o.4wets). ~N ow, Sir,. k should * Dot hnye alluded to .thostntnment r cif.the,Right Hon. Gentlem a n ithe had not made use of those emphatical words, which signify that he, was coati:curt of the fact. If be_ be court -8.! iikrif t he Ito t e.W that there was such a design—he, mast know the parttes,by whom it was carried on ; and A ii i ppenrs,icspe,slAtt,fll other explanations; competed' ,to„this, are is, tut* the balance--(Loud and continued ikeerjegi).,, R;ilei topics of dispute and wrangle l ir betwist,tbe, ight Hon, Gentleman and . inother are,not. esortby, tie atiention,of, this ouse l , and arc, krepcat, to us t jtko Representatives pf the 'scold; ,of., England— (renewed cheering)—as dust io the):alapee. If ha knew , that there, was any such design as that he ha5;a1141494 to, he must know the persons engaged in. it; enicst.ls. incumbent on hien, amongst his other eiplanatiopa v p explain that to the House—(Continued cheeriogsfeom both 'idea of the House), Mr. I3ROUGHAM- r f am ar4re,tbat am on s,de- . laying the answer .of the Right Hon. Gentleman by, rising at this moment. He has been called apjo, a l way which will„no, doubt, dotter an answer fipalthasg; but. that it may be more full than die Auestion my . Futile Wriead ,sequites t 1 l a ke the liberty of.,s ting A ping ether pints up on which the House, os,explana s Lion from the Right Hon. Gentleman. ), ..,be 44! itof , solunteericl his . denial to certain cNsisei . .. brought, against him as aginisterpfthe.cropn, I sitosiajosec, /so ,right incidotally,,,ndin *manner perinatal tai him.. If 4; to 11 1wgettathP3ellTtttill Pt tbicE the Hottsq It lttrge is ansinaLpr i mforniatkon. t{t, as I arn,coo, eincedtt tlsen!ianly and direct cots; is s thaliest cal f-Saale4t, ic.thearealpation ,of , the ig ht HoNben;le-, min, I t will pcsiaA ant some ,citctirnatmices Which I think matorio to his defence, ~,Thn ftighL Hon. Uentkentap, .44 advettect p tki : 44ficge j clit he' had gone .to a,n4l - "CM 3 °Pfkif 44 . Ak. i 'l zPibli?qt upon 44cril' niaPiwtP , M 44 o4 4( tf a f# Ito. ~, :T.q; Oat ckarJeli4 l l Ilighi t Hor 'hifh - 1 4! ex': plir Iniir nenes . ye I * - a anothm. ligps %WA. In staled,! o G . /et .V-le Olenudi ups / -• Pii-AW. Nel, or _ and i cons. Oa Withiq ,itti 1 11 —sr-- -- 1 --- r,w - - - 7-- - rip- •1• ►~z••• - - c 7 . i ' 411 it : a itl i ej e i t s l7 9 ll 4 :c;,,l h . : 4 4 1 1111; $4: 1 01 2s 14 6 4Xcr;fi e :_iti! l lrT ° ?r•I eoft k,wiili, 11 , 1 gmtp -• . ..w. . to i 4t9 g. e z nuemp upon P 99 1 1 41 • I C' t? ..villiF3-o•Trenderetood ,lui 1 tkft : 1 1 3 f *ASP . PlPeble ,Gfpilecaer 1041,7tr.4 thaA 60 APRII , qfd 1 $ SuWl 3 44 Fa.P W ” : I W•. ° ,o Pqn A i d% Of . . -itto ;4. ,sa!pd )-Ilial peomoit=vs4„--A . a ...t ir,s,s t , pow , b bPl 3 9= MantOcut r _ _. ?„1. 41 47.1gPra Ay*, • 711. kite til i s t ratt:RP Wrritkini 4 4 e h at o t olits i gh*L. tiqffiffe qi -114>m *e 4 1 0i1WL al Rusticated stoker* the woggles gems on.' especially not in a high quarter. I also understood h'ni distinctly to say, that he did not go to consult with any one ott . seck t spbbits. New, Sir, this is what I un. der s too t 4jhe Right HOn. gentlemap'to j t ay, and ha will perhaps 04 us whether I Was! wrong in this cespect "; .and . if„ I.:might suggest to hip dip w4ich will make 14.. : imswer, fuller and more. latisfector7 to thelionse, he any also add ) , whether any one ever came to consul. , with hi limn iNcise:sribjects—(Heai, heir). ir he `will .do 64,1 think.. we shall he likely to come to lise whole truth. 41101 beg the flight Hoo.Gentlesnika to,uadeistatidt*l a m not aitUatedbY nay iliscopitepus l eeelings tpyirAs him, in the course I am n p ow, taking,, and that,l should poj..haVe ventured thus(o queaipo his if:be ,Irci s int brmieir viihMteered .eiplapiatiOns. , Mr.. HERItIESI doubt if any one has a right to pnt.such a lue,siiop to me, 40.1 tti i nk, moreover, that' with more.paprjety: th e Illon f w a d ,, earned ,Gentleman. Might have been satisfierVerith. , ststslaeF on, a prising er.o r night, 'a s s hi.ltitaself owl 2it: What I then,kelll: keptirely id(a44y e ., g pmt At kibig stand by the assertions f _iliep made, nod . richer explanations . . I iii,ll not enter into—(Lnid cheep: from , the Opposition Benches) ; - After what linn Rrisr t o §fr t winching ) shay, ..... ipcinceme toenser s intri.rarthet.ceß nitrous re,specting the dissolutiv of Hielate N s i?istcy . gpnriptred cheers) Mr.I3RQ PG tf t tt,lo—if,, ; ! I N T ii n s k ft s:po t i . , iodi c I laid no claim of right t o put the qoest‘op i tis4l,ltight lion. Gentleman. I. Thought I ilt)le„rptvation in. a way ,to disarris, immtion ; ati4 , f,clittifkCily sat chant I would nist;fra?..e.put it at ,ell if I .h:gi g ht,g c rip s .. ph . sailiii maniri4 . opt, unpoclii,. yoliknAeeirell s era ~flitsver to, the chArgps in que?ripn,.. And I rionsait,„th,itiff,Oitglitht flins. Gentlenearoqteiis to al;iiaßhy pis. fillocenader which : be . prottqles.tO sheltechilps ~at ,!! 1 (1 111 0 1 ,1Y . IPeill ingnitelk ticiteri.forhis s ovip pa, .ie hn h rt 4ot t - F red'uo gtlanawil akaAtre9 4 ChSTR 07. t ...:!. , : . • ... r ee4 . 1r . ..11V .4,,5v.—,41, Air, They l, this subject. is s becatil 15°1,10 is n:thirig to What has beeq ,alreally_sieted l Wttkre . siins: ,t,o,tbe origirt IMO provers of the b matt" .. oo „iftil 1,1 s t r h.f ilisolutsou of thelate:kciiniPlPtiVfx! , ills efittli -A .ftringer, to '1 untiloe 9th ql i /Anuaiy. I knew nothing till th en.; AA since, I havibeard.nothing. • but ft9ps qn,, of Am 1 . 3!i1 . 7 dealers concerned. B ut, , WWI respFc,,t,o the iiiegairon 'irpade bf the kigfit Hon. Gerelemal, (Vr.,llerries.), 1 know not upon.what grounds it mu,: m 4,400 have some further proofs of, the eiti.tence of 4 deign, tOrea I f up the Government, I mustily, a ith all deference to the Right Hon. Oentlernan who marle.the assertion, that, I cannot give etinkt to it Loud cheers ). From what i I n s acquintell. wt .and from '‘he credit I.am , bound to gife tp ply .b4le Friend lately, at the, head of the Go vernapent, lam coma eds, that ifihere'areapy grounds for sucks an assertion, .ey are , tote* unknown to him icon are,tp me, . y . the wit of my colleagues with vehnis I have spoken—(Ctiotinited cheers), Mr..STURGES BOURNE-1 entirely concur with what ; has been stated by my Right HOB. Friend (Mr. Wynn). -I do not believe, that there are any grounds for the statement of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Harries), and I rano* say, that, what he stated has created in me nothing but astonishment—(Cheers).,- That statement was alto. coupled, I must add, with a time of contempt and sarcasm towards the late head of the Government, which would have created astonishment in my mind, coming font any man,.but especially from the quarter. whence it came—(Cheers). In allusion to I the squabbles or struggles said to have existed in the Cabinet. I con only say. that none such ever were. known lathe Cabinet. Whatever struggles there may have been, they were .00nfined to the two Right Honourable Lkitlemen out of door;, and . never came under the spgnizioceof.the.Cabinet at all. ..I was in the country lith pa-family at the time that these things were pass epp.andit warhy..the public papersonly that I learned with sigma astonishment the dissolution of the Cabinet ea.' beard the .statements the other night of .the Right Honourable Gentleman,-(Hear,,hear)..! _.: 7....._. Several Members hemp's, at poet , but there was istou4 tall for— Sir JOSEPH 'MAKE, who apologized for standing ii .the way oCAtoy . othel_Memher, end then ,continued t —AR tha.t r iniesuk to . say, .Si,, t .on this matter is,, after hail,g.hesrd* steplanatiame of. to night, and after reittllog,what,tocik *mon e,fortner night,, that these Peatlenteo,arqoe,greateg set, of children, of their age ever , knew in my life--(Much laughter).And really, if this is the way iin .which this country is to be go verned, rather thin have such a Ministry, I would say with the Honourable Member for Aberdeen, let us set aside Govermient altogether. The general- good sense of the people, " the march of intellect," and the dant. sion of wealth throughout all parts of the country, would enable us to go on a great deal better with the business of Government than any Cabinet Meetings whatever—(Lapghter).-4 ask; Sir. if sorb wthing was ever beard of before, of,a amassment being d i ssolved without the Cabinet.knowing a. single word about it, except tbrongh the, newspapers or by common report in tjse.streets ? , All that we know about the matter is, that the King said to the Duke of, Wellington--" Go you, Duke of Wellington, and make a . new Govern pent. L would have- supported the old pee if. they could only have kept their own counsels, aid - refrained from cutting their own thtoats"—(Continued laughtei). L really thought; Sir, that my Right Honourable Friend &Mr. Herries) would have made a better explanation than he.did e .It was a most roundabout story that he told, from which it was impossible to make out any one rational cause of the dissolution of the Government ? Whar.could it matter, Sir, whether my Right Honout able Friend heard at four in the afternoon or at twelvel at night of the resignation of the Right Honourable Secretary? (Mr. Huskisson.) • .It does appear to me, Sir, chat the Cabinet was broken up by a little jealous struggle between two,of its Members; and I can only say, that ,if my Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Herries) was the party who broke up the .fast Cabinet, and who means to explode the present by just. such another cabal, the sooner the Duke of Wellington turns him out the better— (Cheers and laughter). , . Sir 3. MACDONALD—I cannot refrain from ei• pressing my astonishment at the Right Hon. Gentle ' man's perseverance in the grave and important charges , he has brought forward against persons Wham he will pot mention. Looking at thenature of these charges, I 4 ask the Right Hon. tientleman 'whether is is moistest ;• . . with his duty to this House, or decent to the public, to make such char s, and 'lit, tbeti; :rensaifs; nosubstan• Paled ?-I,llfac t 111, Inchaifluala a . iliac present te tt . Ife ilneticaA in , oe charges; for I a sh to whom can 141, el„apph ti. e*Ptiitg, to some pf All,l .of li lntmel 4eagiteslt. gat ,I Understand Iliac Ole itiliht . .. ?A.. tient., liar!, eeqoutlt a he rfohle - coid" who was . , lid y at; the isearinf.the *niitt y l .Ifit be :pc be is "rectseao 0 t i t. 4.!ei'llPtgrtiOPS amongst w , .. . .. .. l e ."' l 44°llcaißfti. ,ia .a plot to ,uohlermitie the la st . a 'trt,atk . to tyro the , 41 ,Gorcpsescnt,.. Tbis:is the siti4,4 Aith t l 4 e ahoy .lii4rtofirible ( ctulatatan itaitda a "am adiiikiinfii, :Hs el - ppe z; can eA# up the Rs' which himself, pla t i ti caelkid.,-fetw, heaa . l) 4, , -as his charges 1 ,pan in,t,eil ed . b7 : him IP have , eferenee to sticb Of, 1 lalcllleagt,M as do. not farm part of the peon; ...MAIO, :throw buck in. his teeth the joingnsion. And itell bug chit if he espi.cts lobe aupitoffed in 'his present . station in the Councils of his Sovereign, he mist stead op and say, not that be will give no further explanations, but that be is prepared to mike good his charges (Loud cheers). I tell him, that whether as Chancellor ;of:.the Exchequer, or in any infetior situation to which b may descend, there is no place connected with the Government so degraded, that its possessor can make. charges of so deep a dye, and enjoy the confidence of the once, sulcient to retain his post, unlisi be make chi good—(Cheers). _ • Mr. HERRIES—After what has Isten.saia l l trust tiliall hst permitted to addreis i ' few viaids . to . ilii House,' not certainly to announce . that I.have altered ordtermination, or that I am prepared..tomake any disclosures—(Hear, and a laugh) —4 mean, Sir, that I Will not mike any specific charge agnisist iidividaidsi When Iyose upon a former night, it wm oco.uocalied, for; My explanation was not gratuit o us. 'And hoW tbf lon. and Learned Gentleman could assert that it was •oratuitous, after what had passed, is to me Matter of. the greatest astonishment7 . 7 (Hear, hear). I was direethl adverted to hi the Noble L trd (Noimanby), a,4 w hit thee my explanation was or was not asked for, as Sat talon. and Learned Gentleinao has allo wed himself to say, he must know that statements wer e made by that Noble L .14,. which I could not have left, unanswered Withonlienving some imputation upios myself; . I vim cialkd on to explain matters which related to myself t riciiially ;7104 respecting them I am sure I may say that I gave every possible satisfaction-.(Hear, bear) The whole point of the explanation .tOich it .had been requisite for me to Make refeire9 ,io'srxratitetatices ,i4t tributedto one period, toliich in fur 1444 to ado, theri.aOd I arts perfectly sitlifled that, io the.11414,,0f every fair and honourable man, My conduct between the Ist and 4th December, M regarded my Right . Hop. #tie4d;ivill send as , fair and upright:.. Outs I Will - Ai r ways re-assert, that I t Lai let been cos ;icily .iiiitedibgt. my resignation of my.late office caused 'the dissohation of the Government. lam convinced it was not so; I knOW it,-(Hear; heir; from the Opposition eenche i a) . - I:use the word, Sir, in the same sensein whicb Ilised it before—as a man may know anything by inference— by drawing conclusions from the most palpable grotitial -41IfOrmors); .1 say, Sir e that I 'know it vras,not So; *Mil .„My.,,resignktion, was. not ,enough,.. without °this .gtounds, to bring abOut such an. event, An Honourable 'Gentleman opposite' said he did.. apt metlit . it—meaning the statement that there were other causes et sit ork—(Hear, hear)., In ansoer ..to that, ill I shall say is, that I discredit the statement.—: ksay that there is no one out of the House, not only . of those connected with Government, but I believe in the whale kiagdomorbo has witnessed the public events 'afflinh.bave passed, and which I have adverted, to, who has failed to draw this conclusion, although I admit that I and Others know more upon the subject than they do—(Hear). I say k is impossible. but that there must be other causes and other motives, much more material than my tender of resignation, which ,must hi,VC ope rated to produce the events which have taken place. I also say that thoie who undertook- to give au account of those causes, and who were competent togive a full One did refer to other circumstances, besides my stets, as being both active, and of great importance, in producing the results which have taken place. Those very persons who have mentioned my resignation as of importance, have, I repeat, alluded to' other circumstances as being most material. Why, then, did they not describe them? Why were they not called' on to snake the disclosure? The party that . undertook to give the account of any, ought to account for all the causes. If, then, as they say. there were other causes which would render the trifling circumstance of my resignation of consequence in producing these events, I say it was necessary for them to shew all those other operating causes, by which so trifling an event could cause the catastrophe which is tomplained'of. Again, therefore, do I ask the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Charles Wynn) whether hOwis not himself then aware that there were abun dant other causes likely, to contribute to such an event ? I now again repeat what I always have slid,. and` ever shall Sliy, that my resignation was not the subitantial, the real, or the operative cause of the dissolution of the Government. • . Mr. C. W. WYNN. , -.4 beg to repeat in the Most dis tinct terms, that I do believe the dissension between the Right Hon.-Gentleman who has just spoken, and the Right Hon. the Sometarf' falls* Colonies ' .M hive been the cause of the ditielutinii` of the. lateacivein- Meat.. 'there was no Other cause ithitsoeirer;—(Hear, bear). Whether. the Government Child sbinil 'after the Meeting of Parliament, must, of course, hake depended upon whether or not it would havellinConfidence of Parliament; but this Isam certain - Or, that it did ioteod to have . Met Parliantent ; and that' it' was deeeirisksedlo meet the contest on 'that occasion, 1 assert With" Con fidence. I will also ask the Right ' 'Hotiottrable Gentleman' whether, eight and forty hours tefote he sent the letter tendering his • resignation, he lead not declared in ther Cabinet his readines: to GO-Operate to the utmost of hii power with the Government of Lotd Goderich, as it was 'then cOnsii [444 and whether he had ever mentioned taliii.LOrd ship, or to any other ' Member of that Cabinet , that he had any, the least, intention to resign?- . --(Hear), "I'alio ask the Right Honourable Gentleman whether' be liad the intention of writing that letter at the tinieWe gilt meeting ?—(Heat, hear,hear). If he had, I will not go the length' ot laying that he intended to deceiie. but II will say that his conduct most certainly had the etiet -of deceiving me; for I could not conceive that any one who had declared on the 19th that he would give has support to Lord Goderich could at that moment lisle meditated sending in his resignation ou the gi l t. l i do not say that this is conduct with Which . any,iiroa hha:a right to he distatisfied—tHears hes 4 :.1 shall not make any comments on it, nor ans I. called .oil to do so: 'lt is ; limiter with 'which the Moue les Willing to do, and is merely. a point of honour .bet Ween gre Right Hoo.'dentleman and his Hon. Colleague. But after the bold question which the Itiighttlooonfalge gentleman has put, I now beg to ask him, whether between, the Sd December. the time ,at whith the too .I=were put into his hands explaining . all'thit had 60.4411:34p7blic;i40:opoimaybsiailibotmotstl..tzripooth;ede4i14cetoicriehpo between 9, o . c 45 ei.o o wf m h ot h the ib I,7 a ti c c i rs o ahe l dci rta:ohnittehockda: Lordi t s I. h bin !iso: and' not, upon ilttp, i pinple_ ilia Ooderich that dos 04twaintoo .. ht e loten'.44 - itd on anti comoletedHllpw4mirt It s itdditiOnal infortn tionmerf received hy thiMaght Hop, Gentle en , . of if mix tping .nsore. - were done, Ido 'ant itinnw . ; , • t.: has ; 441 l i n . , gated.tliatbit 'hal hittC,io4l infOrinasio ,7toi rt. 'know li!;kw )Ise cikuld hive 44 it, unleaf froin thelate )I,after of the Mint ir'frest lard.GoCteriisb. ' • ' :, : Lord Non m A NBY-AltliOuih, Sir; I 'or igiVitted ill tilt i,ctissions which have taken place iitien ihe'subject .. , lIIT hetOre the House, I mut tonna thatl i tkink we re at present arrived ai such a point* of l the case, that every one trust be persuaded there ii'onlY post !PO who An explain satisfactorily the causes which p roduced the Ossolution of the late Government; aqd, (t i do, his own Aeclatations, I think it is plain that the Alexi OM. Gen t. . ..,,, • (Mr, Herries . )fs that his conduct may affei I meat y c4urs~, ii innovations fganitL 'to form annisni ae, -ego* debate 0a all rl `set the Right flOn.'C b e appe ars to ,me e any question which an answer which ma ' quest ion I put does soy YonoMa.o. l ; and u f l s aid that the Ril 'teered a gratuitous 'saltation of persons r which I never dad vircumstance I shoo the place, and I cei tech a question. W the Right Hon. Gent tnade in the other H 'that the Right Han. periods variid the RI poiptnentof my Not tnan of th*Financep that the itt. Hon.don lion to it ; secondly, t the 'ground 'of g an ins; him to have been p 4 that he (Lord Godei vinced if the Right" *t what had Leen do grounds, and to thei three sreeks, the . R and tor eiplanairon. I a and certain that I slh of what I slat Hr HERNIAS Tke,..l?Oiale . LOOd'aaj qiukstiodp with teapet decided opinion as liilentber for North chtpber, when rant the 4 9 *e. 'CO"the late. Gonna nine.nt. S explanation on that and f t Ist ac tor, tbi eipfeirrotfor is my letter of the es eoineetetr which, I had a right tcf_ctra witiCh oiOurted,;tlin Member Ctn . North' completion. The Ria shire says chit same in tfil . 'recolrecii#d of them the letter whit dressed to the tidbit Goviaidenr, I distii ant letfer I, askair4l - might have in me. The 'first "assn the engagement with tonshire. had been co been so completed in siderafions: I . stater those assnuiptions by a denial. Vire engagement was not considerations had n . No. 'N.' 7 , more, , ris as that,trqsz,.the epg considued at oomph tit* it did.. It is tit gain had been cot negative; but wise open to discussion,. • It was an_un that it was no longer Under these clrcumrl I did assume; nor have done otherwise is given by. the .Nob LOrd says, that I de sumption, that Emil the late Goveromen justify the Noble made id.the fatiestt dela* mytelf from, G Ofsorl Poeta - irotitil fafisl i tir Pitt t* overturn the dove would resign, beery 'and ' oli▪ reitred t igthi'Ne mo• ire satisfactorily May coMmand Itti of It I placeit (a done in the most f posal.° I ask the Member for Mont M'emher'in the Ht proceeding ? Let that letter, and the stiuction, which ha bear the interpreta whore wirh it wa, the utmost that cal entertained a wish great crilrie? . If littrelenicioas of patronage, and oil (lnence. the vice in his opinion, Mot interest, he wishes is that to be char) to ' 4 be conse - a ered position on Nis pa Noble Lord really the teittlienifle stated, in the tiro conceived to be I such a letter, a 111 uc.tt is royilidg mind; such are t tics to ptocced drifttebas been s overcharged, t h an shy, pray, is he restate tip lam shed uncesestion that what he as common under froth stieh pre Moßtgokery sh write my letter those %41ct Wel Ilobletctrcl . at r allbWlet