Star. — London, England, 1828-06-28 00:00:00

Tr I • HOUSE 0 lirlsln3S. Juin' 27. The Royal Assent was given by cambial= tothelisser Dodos Bill, the Law of Evidence Bill, Coverg.gaudess.lmpasienume Bee,Scotch Madhouse+ Rill, the atoms sepaket the Perms gak; and several Private Hily.. • • The COM011:311eTS were the -sebeirirealibrini+ the Earl of heavier, • ,Lord Itt.mmosonstr. The *ton Fighers BIY, and the Lunatic Asylein 1110 1 Pin seventh/Veld a third time and passed. xessamtlarrat use boattions.• • •*. the Irish Sir A.' attire, Lord fiessum, and others, brought up Register Mee 'Regulation Rlll, the Alehouses Licensing Bill, the Scotch Hbtillerim Rill, the Promissory Notes (Ireland) Bill, and theJeanden Dock Acts Consolidation ti 11... • The Melfrgeff DARNLEY presented a Petition from the town of Nortleiverten, Which, he said, was most numerously and re wire-se* signed, against the Burning of Hindoo Widows. Lord SKELM RESDA LE presented a Petition,. front the city • Hereford against the importation of Foreign Gloves. On the motion of Lord SULUMPAIDALg, the Alehouses Licensing Bill was read a tint time.. The Noble Lord. gave notice of his in tendon to move the second reading of this Eidson Tuesday next. Noble Purr presented Petitions from 'the Landowners of Su therland and Caithness, against the Importation'of Foreign Wool. The Earl elf SHAFTESBURY laid upon the table a copy of the French Tariff, so far as it relates to the Importation of Wool. The Earl of DARNLEY begged fo enter his protest against a voteelf 14.5001. which be saw in the Fsatiuraterof the year, for the Chartered Schools of Ireland. Nothing in his opinion but discord and utisthiefmosefrom those grants. - The Duke of WELLINGTON thought it irregular to advert here to the weirs of the other Hasse of Parliament, and there would be a inopportunity 'when the Appropriation Act came be fore the House, so enter into the consideration of the striect.— There might be differences of opinion as to the advantages these grants ; be knew indeed that great differences of opinion prevailed but there myelin* no difference of opinion as to the imiosdbilky of discootheriag these customary votes all it once. The Marquis of DOW NSHI RE did not wish to prolong the discussion, but he agreed with his Noble Friend that the Chartered Schools tof Ireland were in some respects objectionable ; at the some time he could not with to see them abolished, unless some better ,system of education had been devised to supersede them. Here the conversation dropped. Earl BATHURST presented the Report of the Select Com bines ea the Wool Trade. • • Earl STANHOPE said, that at this late period of the Session he could not attempt to found any menses upon this Report; but Ile gore nedee , that at an eatlyperied of the sae &Vibe be would stabasleeistele propositions to their headships. which he should .be '1 peepered.se *bow were felylitsdliedby the:evidence taken before the Committee. , • 1 The lisestrtben.adjourtted and Maiday. HOUSE OF . L*OSIMONS. accorgpanied by several Members. attended dic 'Hirai° of Lord& to heat the Royal Assent even to embroil*. ellgason his nettles,. acs _minted the House with tee iligU e ss ee fr : (for which see • 'Roan the Commbeloneb of Public Records presorted cif site sums or mosey sicked' to his Melestp's CoMeds lite*. !fent "-s z irsai me Meer the Chief Secretary for Debbi; V = of Vinare:4i : Evidence taken kespeedeg the t r k‘ it angrqi rem ppeestlon o ld a frebt . the Scadordatdra miler "Anion from Deal. s lisp 1;8 imilar preelbsed thane Petition • Petkiob froth Petitioners also it perdue& prisited. certain Cotabers of nictvise dl thiir Vfrortt the Orro. sitJ it= CIeMUM pretested a shnitat T*lSOina. aid another place in Yorltalre. The P fat that ablation boentiei on Werrindia p l'rVlpncreilr=ll/ rigrdi totion be = %kV!lllorthuniberiesd, prispliss fat Ss WC ...Ordered to be Okra. btr ' WES opened a similar Petition 1 • • • • to be pri m t_sTl. ; + • ruen frets the Weft* * , teepte rid 4. • • $44416 lir. Altheistin yam,. seers Ivot:,..rnepeciiiss. On **hi of *kits *stilled mairomp da e• HI OOO sisitewa. : • • • - Sir I. LLOYD ~Red a feeir te ria the ( in trmer of the —Oideri N. - TAN HOM MB presented a Valdes fri the - Glare !labe l' the tontifactilre several Murat ►ere ' la the Utdre;d labn MOW; 1111.—Ord4ted Count, of Film ...Ordered tribe printed. from the County illnibe4. respecting tin • Arsenetnentent Grand Juries. Sir' L. FOSTER supported the Petition. • • ifisi Petition was ordered-to be panted. - Sicel. W. SIDLEY presetired s Petition from the Tohniths-; sins of Newcastle-upon-Tyne soma the imposidina rf s &erg 45d.4er lb. upon Stern Teharetr. Sir M.W. EIriLET pre4oted a Petition from James )IM* at &oh Wilds, stating that be iind succeeded in plannini eo 4 tee* *Ole host, and prayft,that every ship Welkin ors arm mt. Ada* I* boar. The Hon. Bareoetsaid he thiqiiviiiiiiniof Mr. *her had been tried. and fennel -entirely connected web wor- spotlit M !V&mans= A the . taWs K_ dribs , and r; *pie che.Atta from certain Nina- I l lte C ri;oona MA K! caw arderiodito be .14114 Ms Prise. meatyp+~'N4*Menarristedoihil tote read a Weidman Mender lietil "• • • •• • 'lO4 sleaumeivs of Ilt.'llteitna, the Loagitade Acts keyell Bill was read a;arrattlier..' • • • Alps a winds tom BIT *am Yosea, Mr..Cartgek, Mr. 'Waldenses, end Ik. Rakes. Who mod that the SerSe+l of the /lola Was as wells the got West near sisal be gives up, Si r. JOBRPH TURKIC said he ekenid regret very much thandellMem of the aupospt so pemplase the Sang of the Coast of Aiseriess CROKRA said, that the DOI merely took away the Par- Ibimestary htniabs Orem etitair• to reach the North Pole. The am was` ~Aim* fee Monday next. On - the tastiiin or Mr. ()MAT Cast. the House resolved itielf Into a Comnsiuie on the Corporate Funds BM. The Slither went through the Committee, and the House re. owned:whack the Report was ordered to be received on Monday pext. s Mr. STEM ART gave notice that be should, on Wednesday next:move for sundry Returns connected with the expenditure al Ceylon: ammo. Mal lei Winn. A Metiage,front the lewd, announced, that their Lordships bad agreed to the Salmon Fisheries Bill. the Corn Importation Bill. and some other bills. Their Lordships requested a copy of the Report made to the House by the Select Conunittbe in the Smith' RIM'S; BM • The request was complied with. • , . saw turtmout PliniMsettissitoff SM. Ur. 2i. (`.ALVRAT moved the farther metsideration ei 'the Ripon on this SU:" Mr. BARING thought she Hon. Member Was bring ing on.this.importantquestion raiher earlyffive o'clock), and hoot the state of the House,. it would appear they were set prepared for it so early. MA bl. CAIVBRT tilt net du* this too cklt at . hdbr atitis time of tholleasion, erbtm it was **Meow* thkitt Was so small a rarmant . of ;throe baOlissa aff transact: • finkr at diefer hirrtaikoseolyna Calor wired nt the • , I L drew the amisaliti4llll its Act which had taken plate its • rhia..)3lll Wawa* bad la t spoken upon it. tatirepaps, it apacared, was wet in to varis...le was nos to heidiaiseristsisial. foie, he thought, in dealing with *est Bantord, were, bound 50 act with tcfcretet to that circumstance. The, Right Hon. SecratectstOol) distinctly laid down the ptinc iptelsoon dis obtosild deaf with the wh fin la oa, w hen d :gold set in the .way which would be considered 44 not the most just, but the most fit and expedieat' and again, when he said he would' take a isiddle co urse, and 'instead of throwing the two botoughi • one stale,he would put one in each. Now, as Ferule where it was, he thought the Rig:, Hon. Gentleman owitilbottad•mono Utast* Pc 4 o ol loe . throw East RetfotAisottylisenitalireif the manufactur ing iinterest. Heliomilhtisboceived, that the Right Hon. Crenstematinnet With propriety acquiesce in his plan, which was totransfer the elective franchise of East Ret. ford to Yorkshire. By that means there would be six Members for that county, and the divisiOn of the Mem bers as regarded the manufacturing and agricultural 'interests would be fairly balanced. At one electirn for ;that county, it had been stated 100,0001. had been spent by the candidates, although there was no contest. This was an evil of great magnitude, and any arrangement which tended to diminish it ought to have the support of the House. Hi, therefew moved, that it be an in • struciion to thetonornittee to transfer the elec ti ve fran chise of East Retford to Yorkshire. ' The SPEAKER said, that the motion of the Noble Lord could not be put until the question then before the House, upon the decision 'of which depended the recommittal of the Bill, was determined. , Mr. TENNISON then rose , and comp lained that in his absence, before he had time to get down to the Horne, his Hon. Friend (Mr. N. Calvert), /had harried on this Bill. His Hon. Friend need not have taken the Bill out of his hands; and his doing so he thought was contrary to an arrangement by which heconsidered his Hen. Friend ought to - hatre held himself bound. :It was perfectly well known to his Hon. F. iend r that it was his intention to take the sense of the House upon ode ques tion, and if that sense was against hm , he meant to surrender the Bill into other hands. I e begged, there fore, to make a few observations before be made his motion. Penryn was now disposed df, and he thought himself entitled t i call upon the Right Hon. Secretary oppoiite (Mr. Peel) to redeem a pledge which the line of argument he bad taken, and the distinct understand ing of ill Whoheerel him fixed upon hips. The ergo menrusedhy the Right Hon. Gentleman about the ma. puncturing and commercial interests was that to which 'he alluded, and from which he deduced the pledge of 'the Richrflon. Gentleman upon the occurrence of a certain event, which had now occurred, that be ( Mr. Woolson) should have his vote: From the language also of the Right Hon. Gentleman who then was, hut' , OQW unfortunately was no longer a Member of th;Go-, raiment, be had, and the whole House had, inferred the.pledge of which he spoke, to give the franchise of East Retford to a manufacturing town—and it w odic* that, and from other causes which be would not name, he understood that such was the intention of the Cabinet. That nuttier be would leave the Right Hon Gent. to settle with himself. He imputed to him no pledge in words, but distinc tly in the meaning of his language. lie. however, consented upon this occasion to abandon that pledge, and make no use* it et all in his argument. BAH Thele was another pledge from which he did rat mean to release the Right Honourable Gentleman, and which was too plain and.unequivocal for him to refuse to take notice cf. Ile alluded to the declaration of the Right Ho nourable Gentleman, that it was the intention orbit Majesty's Government, in the event of the Pen rya Disfranchisement Rill being thrown out in the Lords, to make the East Retford Bill an open question. Now, he (Mr.Zennitton) called upon the Right Hon. Secretary, in virtee of his pledge, to rise up its his place and declaie this an open qoestion=(Hear). The last vote coinete upon this Bill was a party-Sole. It was well known. that it was propagated by the Government that that question must not be decided upon its merits, but that it most be' rqgarded its a question ' involving the fare of the Administration, and settling the question of a Tory Administration for ever. He believed, that 4 Miaisters had been beaten upon that• occasion, there would have been a dissolution of Parliament. Indeed, his Noble &lead our hint (LersfJOlO Russell, we believe). remised bias, that the tact had been an nooneed. . Mama Geatkasen bad told him peesokally, that they were;aridt him upon the merits of the Bill, bet in that presoliar crisis they considered it a duty of parainetentimportapce to support the Government as then inersedr and, therefore, they must disregard the OW-Wm of meKits. •The Main, is short, was sounded --otbirßight 'Honourable Gentleman got 'his majority, and set be was, no doubt, fully iatisfied -with his'ttiumph, he hoped he would sow redeem hiaisledge. .1t appeared to him certain, that the Bill mild not be settled this Sestina. There were so many potpositirme to be dis cussed upon this subject, and such a mass. of. evidence to go through, that be thought the best course be amid take was, to move .as an amendment, that the Bill be re-committed that day three months. Mr. STEWART seconded ,the amendment. The discussion of the que two of.Eist Retford had alreadr led to very extraordinary consequences, and it had been said that if it was further persisted in there might be a dissolution of Parliament, which might, perhaps, be a reason with some Gentlemen for going forward. Front the beginsing be bai opposed the .disfranchisement of Ea-t itstfoed, and voted for throwing it open to the Hersdred of Baoetlaw ,• he had, however, since changed hiss4isioas, and would now rather leaie the franchise to the llotou,gt, even supposing there.was not an hoaest voter to be found in it. than consent to open it to the Hundred, Which would throw it i nto the hands of the . Aristocracy. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, Oat * * had already so fully explained the situation in which hi Was 'placed with respect to this Bill, that it must be untiecessary to detail all t e circumstances. He thought he bad' fully satisfied the House that he never meant to indicate what course he would take, supposing that there were only one Borough to dispose of. In the discussion on the Penryn case he had acted bona fide, and Without tee/ contemplating what bad since occurted—that the Bill, would-be thrown out in the other House. In the detail& which had then occurred, there was 'sufficient tO ptirdo to the Hodie that it was impossible to cootimplato Viet case which had now arisen, when he toought *ltitosal4,' and he actually was, at liberty to whit for any issw.of' the propositions sebtaitiod to the House. - Alt, the ge- Decal hit is and insinuations thrownamt, that there was a desire to support the Aristocracy;'by giting alit:asp chile to the hundred of Basiatlaw; be could only 11111111 them by as general a denial-414am, behr)o—and for his oWn put he wax aorawatt of any such thing being" eloplait. .These vis t a no pledge of kind given, an4, l helorit . the dissolution of the meat there was am reason whetrrer why ,Mioimers, on the East 'Raiford. SW should 'pursue the Cootie adopted either with two. spakaeo GramPoold or Pearyti. Or Why it shotild 'hie may iat a. Goversiani question.' Tile wetter was ' • invites& teahjesta df ii•jodicial as well as I legis *On **Ore,' and It* had noted. at War inentieiiecl on. : m oth* 0 60^ by his l ido. Friend (we believe M. absitii.“.?b , "a* MaistgrA rgi•Md.„ tellibitoselves dig; P?wer or Vow as .th ey wishlin! So ler .as.tbe ..Hon., Member (Mr. Tennison) battery right, to infer -thit he ~. . . • _ fir.. ; . - ;" - Sit J. T00K5.64 $ ptigniti 4 iii: pine a Wolcott, *di ri bl ig )4902't tiatileriemedolitp Inft whine was t a tby of eteendesi. . ..... ~.t , , , In *OWEN laid ...... be woody to idert bis eta to ;be Milk. ' • ii., ' ; tY r oWee .. pted * Petides fresi • s ' - . iMeitie*Viiiiisr - eats odei .d. blr. c t ...„,„ . ' , . , i -or ir..gorAr be fAs• ' ... .go b eca do n - ,* ou ler anseatlinS !tit , 41. 1 1 'to 1 i ..ilieniptige.:—Tbe ,lefe; toed - a beet mite. ail to bn a „. . V Owls day ann. . . • ' -ig DlOr.diE presented* Ream keep ite; rigetitittatia i 4 Ibit *non . &detest be pc be gy bede i of theta* *speeds! I( tit* Cegobitisty bares Sadie d .Ibo gdtpid 440 nytriPkvieterL . 11,41. 6 F. 4 z_rvissitiol4 .Patitsco bppintorpit fee. trik **it Thiblii..soiitt thit 31) ,s1J1Pme C , ri Itronold tw o - tbe %Upon wpm be . yet" ot'fteed..to tpben Woe ft limns otd di • . ~, Fi riterta Uvitit il NiK e n 411111/ . „lik_Al .....—,,.............. .w h. —... Mfr. feel) would follow any particular coarse from the declaration be b i r d made he would Say, that if the ... Hop. Gentleman od gist the franchise of Erik Ret. fait to a great town, and that the Noble Lind 4(ohn 'teasel) had transferred that of Penryn to a county,. and that- the Noble Lord's Bill failed in the other Hr use, the franchise still remaining to Penryn, he would then have supported the 016poiltielt1 of the ain: Walther. Ttleseise witsbnweeve different, because his Hon. Friend (Mr. N.CalVeTt) hint submitted. hic propo sition while both the cases were - pending, which he (Mr. Peel) did then, and would now support. He could not, however, agree with the Hon. Member, as to leav ing &Ist Redfotd as it was, because A case of great delinquency had been proved. The question at present was, that the Hon. Member wished Birmingham to have. the frinchise. The Noble Lord proposed the transfer to ore of the Ridings of Yorkshire. and his Honourable Friend (Mr. N. Calvert) desited that it. should be given to the two adjacent Hundreds, that the County might not be deprived of two Representative*. He confessed that his two grounds for transferring the franchise of one borough to the hundred of Bassetlaw, and that of another to Manchester, being the desirethat one should go ta the agricultural, and 'another to the manufactur ing interest, would be as fully gained by giving one to a riding of Yorkshire as it could in the other way. The case of East Retford he did think was such, that it should not be an object to confine the franchise so at to benefit East Retford ; because, if the House of Lords had not given the franchise of Penryn to Manchester, then they were bound to transfer the other to a great town. That he had been prepared to fulfil, wherefore it was impoisible for him to argue that East Retford should he preserved; at the same time, some regard might perhaps be shown towards that proportion of the electors who remained uncorrupted. He viewed the elective franchise, however, in a different light from tither privileges; ;twits a public trust, and if that trust had been abused, the minority must abide by 'the fate of the majority, and although it might be considered a hardship that the minority should suffer, yet suCh was :he general rule, both in that House as well as in Cor porations, where, it the majority did wrong, the mino rity was bound; and such, frOm the nature id ,things, •must-alwayshe the case. With respect to the county of Nottingham, he had been, from the first moment, unwilling to disturb the proportion, and he would cer tainly sooner have traniterred the franchise -of Penryn to a great town than to' East Retford, on account of Cornwall having forty-four Members. That doc trine had been found fault with, and it had been said. that these should be no apportionment of this kind; but he never hand a debate in which that argument had not been made use of when a-transfer was contem plated. The Noble Lord himself had.• in the Gram. pound and Perim 'cases, compared . Corriviall, with Lancashire. He knew very well that in point of prin• ciple it mattered not whether • a county ' returned. forty.four, . eight, er four Members; yet there would' always be less 'difficulty to make ii transfer, froth. a county of the former to one of the latter description. Seeing then that the county of Nottiogliam•had only eight Member., which Wool& by the', Mon.. Mindset's Bill be reduced to six—;-that:in the hundrid of Ilissetliw thtre were 2,000 freeholder*, and a population of 95.000 —that the constituency wastes' ectable t and comprised' the inhabitants -of- two or three market-towns,. which Were not teprertied—and believing that they were not subject to'theliatficOlar in fluenceof i heAristocraiy— be did not see why the House should depart front the rule of Opening the franchise to the * hundred. which they had invariably pursued in every case except that of Grampourfd . • - They would taas - *fat itbd beep the object of the House on former'occasionsfor they swank) mark thaii disapprobation of the delinquency that bad been committed, while at the same time they secured a : good representation. Lord Chatham bad said, "that be was glad tosee Bramber taken awayfrom India, and te t stored to its si:uation in the county of Sussex:' His idea was, that Shoreham was entirely under East India in terest. Mr. Fox also, in almost every case, protested .against the transfer of a franchise, and so far froni even wishing to remove one to a great town, he-had given the most persevering opposition to the Bills respecting Shoreham, Ailesbury, and Cricklade. In another case also, that of stock bridge, there were two Bills brought in, one for a transfer to the hundred, andanother for the pusiihment of the corrupt voters. *Hialso thought it better that the Bills should be separate, and the Honourable Member for HertfOrdshire only fol lowed the course of Mr. Fox, who disapproied of in eluding the disfranchisement of a borough in the Bill, which save it to ancther place. Thus it appeared,that: all those who, ere most favourable to reform, and &menet them Mr. Pitt, after adickating the general principle, were in favour of the course pursued is this instance, and therefore he (Mr.• Secretary Peil) -was sorprlied that Mime who now professed to be friends of refattm should declare that they would 'kern seeing East Retfordsas it was, to giving the franchise to the hundred. Under all circumstances, therefore, and con sidering the number of Mentbers returned for' the county, he was inclined to prefer the proposition of his Honourable Friend the Member for Hertfordshire. He did not think that perhaps at this advanced period of the Session birth le:lowlier, of the Legislatute might be able finally to decide upon the measzre . • at the same time, he thought that as. much, as possi ble ought to be done, so that it might be introduced with effect at an early period of the next Session.. He should be.extremely sorry, after the evidence adduced at the Bar, to see East Retford restored to its original-state, and he trusted that, under the circumstances, she House 'would take measures that no writ should issue for the election of any Member 'here. On these grounds he would de cidedly oppose the amendment. Lord o lOHN RUSSELL said, it was only in extreme cases the number of representatives of a cr luny should be taken int) consideration. Such a county for instance as Coinwill. But when the Right Hon.' Gentleman said, they ought not to tike away any of the eight Members of the county of Nottingham, it was pushing the principle too far. Two of the Metnbereot Notting hamshire Were added only is the reign of Charles IL— The representation of East ReVord .was advainageOus, not to the county, but to the Burgesses of East Retford. He thought thelest manner of dealing with the &O ahe would be to give it to a large town, because the counties were better represented , than the large- towns. When the Right Hon. Gentleman referred to the antis& rity of Lord (Alabama and Me. danxihe did not consider that many large eqd Wealthy:P . 6*ns. had since grown up. He totillY icguisied ,tlie . gight . Hen.' Gentleman ofugy desire, to get in parsieulat Member lifer East .Ret-; food; but it so happened that 'Members of the other ,louse of Parliament bid ' *satiable influence in the hopdred of Bisitttaw, Wsetseier there was a borough loose,-he thOutibt the best policy would be to transfer it to large town. The landed and matinfacturing its. wrest must wax or wear together, and he regrettbd the ..jeakrusy which appealed lit late t o have grown ' u'p:_ It . idig: inatedio a gteat.lneasete in tie discussions (*ldle Corn Bill. He hoped this jealousy would be. soon re • moved.- It wit ttoin this it, arose that the question relative to these boroughs came undo the coesidoration of the Cabinet, and ttecanie of discu ss i on ;here. This be regretied. nett p ound having b eet Oven to a county. East itetford should have been gieh o a town. The Nolsle hold concluded by expressin g his disposition to support the motion fora transfer o f the franchise either to a large manufaerating tow n . at the motion of the Noble Lord kHooick, for the trans. Ter of it to a riding of Yorkshire in reference to th e ' extettslou of it - to thy:hundred Lord NORM ANBV said he,Wildri support Ai* Ta o ; tion.for the postponement of .the BilLfos-ibme-nolok as he could not approve of thellillirifh 1 ate iltiregia- Which. bad been introduced intro it since it was brouph t , forwatd. He regarded it as a iotellyilifefetit question, prerenting itself 'under a new asPerot from who it h ad , at first been. In Poking to the extension of the franchise; of the • Borough of East ltettord to *the a (yarns' R ID; dred, it was natural to consider what influence would ti e ' used upon the franchise which was thus about In be: • granted—(Hear).• After the Resolutions which had been: moved by a Noble Lord (Lord J. Ruspell) in a Nosier year, and to which, althostih they *ere wilharn"' • • a general alma eves understood to be given, did expect that the principle of enlarged reptesentatire,' • would be mote lavistred than it had been. 7 4e . changes which time had produced, • and the growing necessity of extending tepresentation to large maul: (*coning communities, were , not ':trended 'to. Th e , e • • was an anxiety evinced of adhering to East Rettord,e4 • Of converting the delinquent free'men into freeholders, it seemed necessary with someldembeis that the tame . • a East Retford should be preserved. It would, he be. Hewed, puzzle the -Right Hon. Gentleman—indeed he did not attempt to show What import it was to their.'. tere.ts of N , ittingharnshite whether• the . •bergesses nerved 201 a vote from one candidate who entailed te . pay them, and did pay them, oio did not aeceiveit cler i c the other candidate who also promised, but did not pay.' The Noble Lord stated that he would support the pt..' position for giving up the Bill altogether, as it kat changed its character. Mt. HOBHOUSE said, that, as a Verliamenteryite. formet, he regarded with great jealousy any wane for Reform which was under the patronage Of Ole Hon. Member for Hertfordshire (Mr. Calvett)—(Hist, and a laugh). With respect to the East ltetf' rd Sire itself, he could not forbear to narking, that such serious consequences bad scarcely ever been produced by ee• trifling a cause. A pair of eases, it had been "id, cawed the'peaoe of Utrecht; and a..etrooked winder eau •ed - the dosestfall of the Palatinate. Such +serene' gr eat effects produced by such small causer ; and amnia as thiffing'in the course taken tespecting the East Rai ford Bill bad purduced at important effects—d(Heat, anti a laugh).-:-In the first ,placi, it had knocked af the Bill itself ; rn the se4ond place, it knocked ep Administration; and, an bad been stated by aniline ' Heather that evening, it had well nigh kneeled op . Parliarisent—(Laughter]—for the House was told that it had almost Jed to a dissolution. Such were thecae* quakes .of which the dit , cussions and circumfusion attendant upon this Bill had been productive. The Right-Honourable Gentleman opposite was, aollll4ll, doing what he conceived to be his duty by opposiagthe amendment; be (Mr.. Hobhouo was doing what lie. conceived to be his duty, by advising hisfloa.Faisides persevere in the course which be had taken. As le talking df the borough of East Retford being in anew, culiarly bad state, it was difficult to understand lasi One man could say that to another withcnt latighiogie his face. They all knew what snit cf places most ba Toughs were. It in the present instance the boroughs mei,. uniehad without great good being done to the cowslip the proceeding would be received by the-public general mockery and scorn. This, hoWeier, had, choilig It recent discussion, been enforced in so masterly a mars er by his Hoe. and Learned Fiiend, the. Member far Knaresborough. who, on that occasion, bad outdone./ his former outdoings, that it was quite unnecessary for him iHabhouse) to press upon the House %beeps ititattonal 'ssoonds upon which they ought to act. lie kordially agreed with his Hon. and Learned Frig that the franchise should be transferred to a.great town; both because the great town to which it might be wow ferted would benefit by the transfer, and beaten* that proceeding an important public principle meeld be established. Mr.SLANEY said, that every prepossession is big inia 'was in favour of the landed intereas.f the belt view that he was able to take of thedseele that would' be beneficial to that interest; he *siiref 'elided: that it was highly desirable to transfer she Elective Franchise, it's the premist. instance, ,to.a gem town._ The prosperity of the landed interest was most , intimately connected with the prosperity of the eon* asocial interest in great towns.. tut tatter, it was well' known,was.suffering great depression; and what bet , ter chance could be afforded to it of recorferiog 1161 , that depression than by giving to- the rest tontine ' .ciall'tosine-the, means of being represented in dig' The Honourable Gentleman here entesedinte a variety of statements to show the extent of .the 'potation of the large unrepresented towns.; sad the consequefit inexpedienty Of leaving them anrepsesented. Mr. N. CAUIERT and Mr. fiLaniter mutiutily esplabsed. Lord PALIkIERSTON'was not a friend to whet est genei ally called Pat liamentaryßeform, and outhat very account he was desirous that any occasion, such as the present, should be laid hold of for the purpose of pt" venting the. necessity of any such general emission. — it cestainliwasa: striking 'absurdity, that such a Oa as Birmingham or hlanchestet, with a large popal‘liolu should be inieireirdted,lihile a green mound of sviti sent two Members% th.t)lrnse—.(Hear, hear). WW I ' ever delinquency was proved. he would take soseuore of that':fact, gradually to remedy thirezistog earful: von. He onjected, however, to the principle cfthe BA! as it stood. To open the f.anchise to the nergnboash ood was not a kind of transfer that lievaished foe. He sts eld ' therefore vote for the amendment. Mr. AIARSH A LL exPrewed himself facoutable so thtiota l i k of transferring the franchise, in a case of this kind, to a large.tows ifetegretted that the Hight Non. 'Gentleman, Mr. Becretan " 41 7 seemed hostile io such a.proctice.• Mr. &WWII'? Pk Si explained. Ne did not pkdire._ always to advocith the transfer oftbe franchise to the heihreua; HeowaiCin hostile to the'principie of transfer to a larielowito .of this be bad given proof by saying upon a former oewiliabg ... Would vote for transfkring the franchise of Peary* W or Mr. LUMLEY complained of the great delay which test """__ in this On Monday nest be should move that a Ilftit 6 0111 "` for the Election of two Members for the Borough d Bing bir."PY NA said; that although he wasisot.by say ersego . w .- poseti to get rid of Ibis Bill altogethet, stwit was impaggibb ~te get through the 'Bill the'present Session, he -shvglibt a g na t vantage would result from suilsendhig the-proceeding ollgon'etr' tioinnaing them in the next Seision of Parliament. Whenever WI rof prominent corruption appeared, he should always mar d that inihat ease' the oppoktanity should be taken -of red!! in the fePregEntatiosk, Whenever the see was bad. sod_tere_n r noinebabilitf that its, !rev would boatload trait. aFmm 1 "" hiTarnir ;helot trita.kinted, its there wamiNg prshtrwK of 'earryftig the ,measure - is the ;ingot Session,. We' ti the &Minion.. • • Lord EBRINGTONeuppooOd tfie principle of enikdbfablig l d franehise to a large. town. lie mw no purpose k dome anstile,.:: give the right of voting to those who alreadtforkikrlib 'Pr 'Would voCefisr the Amendment. • • Sir F. 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