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and Trance. He did not mean taisretend, or to in innate, that he was in poffeffion of the rufous which aduated his Majefty's Servants upon this occation, when they came to the conclufion which was now before the Public; but he felt himfelf en titied to Rate, that if had done that which folle Gentlemen blamed them for not doing, they w mild have put it out of their own power to do t ieir Country mu^h fervice, which they will now b • enabled to render by eonfulting thole who are b h qualified to advife them, and that more efpe c. ills- on the affairs of India. But, when he heard i• fi;J, that France was hoftile in its difpofition t avards the Trade of this Country, and was en deavouring to prevail on Holland, Spajn, and e t her Countries, to do all they can to difcourage our trade, and to prohibit tome of it in their &- minions, he wonlai afk are they fo ? And if they be, is this the precife period in which you would snake them a voluntary gift of commerce to In dia, when you are doubtful in what relation they chute to Rand with you with regard to other com mercial connexions ? " I own, Paid he, " this is a fubjei on which I feel deeply ; I have it much at heart, and when I fay that I am Pure there is not one man in this Houfe who would feel more forrow than I fhould, if I conceived it poffible for -co to furrender any one of the rights of which I have been fpeaking ' • at the fame time I feel thefe reafnns I have been Rating, I deAre not to be mif- tcprefented; I am one of the laft men in the world, ; my conduit, I think, proves it, who would with to plead for the fyftem of this Country narrowing ' the Trade of Foreigners in India ; ever fince I thought I underflood any thing of the affairs of India, my maxim has been to enlarge that trade, and that we might as well attempt to prohibit any Foreigners from buying our manufadures of York- :hire or of Birmingham, or any other manufacture of this Country, as prohibit Foreigners from trad ing with our Territories in India. But I fhould guard againft mifconception of this opinion of. mine. When I fay we fhould not prevent the ' French, or any other Nation, from trading with' our territorial provinces in India, I mean to fay, that I am not afraid of them as Merchants—l am not unwilling to give them a boon as Merchants, with a chance of reciprocity, and I afk no more ; but I think I am not going too far when I define this Country to guard againfl that which I know the French have endeavoured to make, and will endeavour to make, if they fee any probability of its fuccefs, I mean an incroach. cent on your frivereignty in India. This they have done, and if an opportunity offers, this they will do, under the pretence of purfuing Trade.— They will afk you civilly, for in no other way can they afk it,to allow them to do a number of things for the purpofe of carrying on Trade, when their objet will be to incroach upon your Sovereignty. It was in this way they formerly endeavoured to incroach upon your Sovereignty in 1787, when they told us they could not recover their debts without certain enlargement of power in India ; we refitted that diredly ; and I hope this will be the conduit of this Country in future. The very firfl article infifted upon by Lord Auckland, in 1787, was, that nothing . in the molt diftant de gree touching our Sovereignty in India would, on any terms or conditions whatever, be affented to on the part of this Country. I hope it is not pre fumptuous in me to fay, I trull his Majefty's Go. vernment will adopt the fame principles, and Rand upon the fame ground as we did then, and if we do fo, I will venture to fay there will be no dan ger ; depart from that principle, and your Sore -I:ignty will be firß undermined, then attacked, and perhaps finally overthrown. As to what may be nit...fumed by France, even with all your cam l tion, I cannot fay you will have no difficulty, for I am lira going to he guarantee for the modera tion of the French ; but what I contend for is, Coat you have now better means than you would have had by the renewal of any Treaty, better means than you ever had, of preventing incroach talent upon your Sovereignty in India. But we have not before us any proof, nor is it infinuated, 'hat the French Nation themfelves are bringing forward any filch claim as we hear Rated on their behalf : will it not be time enough, when they do bring forward thole claims, for Government to red them ?—But, furely, when we agree, that their claims are dangerous and cannot be admit ted, it is angular to purfue this as a fubjed of de clamation in the Honks of Parliament. I fay, this ought not to be done; for we all know, that what paffes in this Motile , or in the other Houfe of Parliament, tranfpires to the people of this country ; and I cannot concur with thofe, who with to make the people of this country think the Peace a bad one. I am certainly one of thofe, who cannot give an approbation of all the Articles of Peace ; but is it doing good to this Country to keep this queßion up, and to endeavour to make the people diflike it ? Gentlemen complain of the pride and arrogance of France : Is this the way to make her lets proud or arrogant ? Certainly not—and, therefore, I cannot fee the wifdom of thofe claims, which we all know and feel can..,.: be admitted, and which nobody alerts to ha% e been made." He then refuted the obferva ta as of Dr. Lawrence, on the Cubic& of the dan gcr to us in the Eaftern Seas, and on the appre aifion he exprellid concerning the claims of the Dutch, and then concluded—" I have Rated what appeared to me to be the true fubflantial rights and interells of this Country on the fubjelt of In •nan affairs, upon there rights and principles I de ::re to Rand, and I have Rated what courfe I think this Country ought to purfue to preferve thofe rights entire. I am aware that by fo Rating them, and by fo recommending the courfe to be ?arfued, that I impofe on the (boulders of his Ma-! :Ity's Government an awful and tremendous re ipontibllity for if you depart an iota from your amereignty in India, and allow others to incroach an you, or any way to diminilh the force of thas ptrarnount Sovereignty, you will lay the founda . t.'.n of the overthrow of your power in India. If, being poffeffed of that mighty Empire, and of the ratans to alert and vindicate your right, you a11(..v 1(..v others to_injare it by any at of executive go vernment, I &all not receive any apology for the Railtrt who man (offer that to be done, unier any pretence that the French bad claimed thefe things before, or under any other pretence whatfo. ever, becaufe you are now niore than ever poireffed of means to present it. I apprehend the Learned Gentleman who brought this fubjed forward is of the fame opinion, and I hope he will concur with me in faying, Minifters, if they allow our Sove- 1 reignty in India to be touched will be without an apology, and that, therefore, he will now be fo good as put his motions in his pocket. It is my folemn conviaion, that if we were now to give way to thefe hypothetical cafes which are Elated, l and entertain thefe Motions, inftead of ftrength ening, we ffiould weaken the Rights of the Brat& Empire. Mr. Guam:A ' in reply to what feU from Mr. Dundas, ?kid, that the French had always difputed with us thofe rights of fovereignty which we had afferted in the Eaff Indies; and there was noground for fuppofing that they would not bedifputed again. Was Government then to abandon the Cape and Cochin, before it was known whether France would renew her ancient claims, which had been hitherto ' incompatible with the fecurity of this country ?— I Would it not be neceffary to alit the late enemy, whether they agreed with us in what we thought to be our rights; and whether they had a clear underilanding as to what Great Britain thought of her fovereignty in India? Would it not be better at once to come to an underitanding on this fub jed, and avoid the rill; of holiilities—to know whether France acceded to the defcription which we gave of our right offovereignty—and whether the intended to renew her former claims t It was not his with to make querulous obfervations on the Peace. His only object was to relieve the country from a probable and great danger. Lord HAWKESBURY maintained that the Right Hon. Gentleman had mittaken the fpeech of his Hon. Friend, and the whole drift of the queftion. There was not the flighteft reafon to believe that France harboured any fuch pretenfions, or that any fuch difputes would arife. Claims had been advanced in former times, but thefe were always founded on the Treaty of 1783, or their/van: ob tained from the Mogul Princes. But thefefternant, as well as the Treaty of 1783, no longer ezifted. Our fovereignty had been exprefsly recognifed by all the European nations trading to India, and by France among the refs. It might be faid that we were fubjed to the engagements of our predecef fors ' • but the bell opinion was, that thefeirmaru conferred nothing but commercial immunities ; and at any rate they could not be more binding than Treaties we ourfelves had concluded ; they were therefore no longer binding. The cla ims of France might formerly have been very well found ed ; but their foundation is gone, while our fove reignty remains. The Convention of 1787 leaves many important points unfetded, fo that had we renewed at, together with the Treaty of 1783, we should have opened a door to the molt unwar rantable pretenfions. France is now exaaly on the fame footing with other European nations, (and their number is very confiderable,) who have fadories in India. It was impoftble to fay what claims might be advanced, but if in any one quar ter left than another France had no inclination to interfere with our juft rights, he believed it was in India. He fpoke not only from our eftablifhed fuperiority in that country, but from what he ob. ferved during the negotiations for peace. He mull be very blind who with fuch opportunities does not fee in what quarter difficulties and difputes are likely to arife. To Come of thefe papers he had no great oblation, although others certainly could under no circumftances be produced. But after the manner in which the fubject had been [farted, ' he thought it much better to fay there was no ground for inquiry, and to negative the motions indifcriminately. Mr. Joins faid, he fuppofed thofe Gentlemen who were attacking all points of the Definitive Treaty, would next move for papers relativeto the Republic of the Seven Hands. He vilified to know how it was poffible for Minifters to have entered into the confideration of renewing Treaties after the greater part of Europe had been diforganized, after the total alteration that had taken place in the relative fituations of States? To renew, or rather to amend former treaties, would have oc cupied a period perhaps of eighteen months, dur ing which time the public mutt be kept in fuf pence, with regard to the fate of that Treaty of Peace to which he hoped the Houfc would, on the following day, give its approbation. He could not avoia expreffing the fatisfadion he felt at hear ing the obfervations of the Right Hon. Gentleman who lately prefided over the affairs of India.— They gave him confolation, and relieved his mind from all anxiety on the intik.% of the peace. Lord Tamrt.s fupported the motion, which was negatived without a divifion. Dr. LAWRINCE then moved for An account tithe Revenues and Weans of Bengal, of the Revantetarifing from Salt In Bengal; An account of the amount of Saltpetre annually delivered by the Company's Agent b Bengal, together with the quantity of ogdunt. Alfo copies of all Oficial Paragraphs or Notes communicated to Go►ernment from Bengal on the fubjed of the claims of the French Government; and An amount of all claims trade by the Dutch to darnel the navigation of the Beat (hips in the Eattern Seas. Mr.NicHint. oppofed thefe motions, and con tended that Minifters had aaed wifely in not re newing the Treaty of 1787. The motions were then put and negatived. Doaor LAWILINCI next moved for a copy of the Treaty of Alliance entered into between France and the Batavian Republic in 1795. Lord thwitssauttv raid the Learned Gentle ' man mull know that fuch a Treaty could not have been officially communicated to his Majefty's Go vernment.—The motion was negatived. The CHANCLLLOR of the Excu sops& expreffed a with that a motion, which focal for to-mor row, refpeaing the Importation of Negroes into the Ifland of Trinidad, fhould be poftponed till a future day. Mr. Pity, in the abfence of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. CANNING, contented to pottpone the motion till Friday fe'nnight. The other Orders of the Day were then difpored of, alai the Hoult: adjourned. LONDON. THURSDAY, MAY 13. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONP O'CLOCK : 3 per Ccnt. Conf. for money, 73f for sco• 4 Prr Ccnt. 8; 7 ,—New s per Ceut. toef--Old ditto sc)2l— 24 11. ToICE OF atuces YI:STFRDAY : Bank Stock ty..i Short Ann. 5 3 pr Ct. Rea. 73 “rut India Stock 221 3 per Ct. Conf 741att Imp. 3 per Cent. 7$ 4 per Cent. 89;i Imp. Ann. pet C. A. 102 i Elebeq. Bills as. to se. prem. 5 Per C.A. 1797 1014 too Onuilum s tit prem. Long Ann. 20 t5-a6} Conf. for May ace. 754 • Difpatches of Tome importance have been re ceived by Government from Jamaica, brought over by his Majefty's (hip ROSARIO, of i 8 guns, Captain Bytom, arrived at Plymouth, after a paf fage of two months. The difpatches brought by Captain BYROM re late to the (late of affairs in St. Domingo, which are reported to be more favourable than former accounts. The French army has got poffefflon of feveral important pons. A mail arrived from Hamhurgh this morning, but the contents are not of fuffieient importance, to warrant a compreffion of die important Debates on India affairs to make room for them. They fhall, hos+. cver, be given on a future day. Every thing tends to thew that the French Go. vernment is refolved to enter into no commercial tranfa'hons with this country : of this we have had Tome evidence from the orders iiTued by it againft the importation or fate of Englifh com modities in France. It was thought, however, by many, that goods once admitted would neverthe lefs be fold without interruption, and that the aim of the Confulate was merely to en courage tome particular French manufactures by excluding rival commodities. The fyllem ap pears, however, to be of a general and (weeping nature. Our Readers will fee by our Falmouth letter (in the next Page), that a cargo of Englifh coals, which had been landed at Bourdeaux, has been re-fhipped, though even a cargo of wine was obliged to be re-landed to make room for them. The French journals of the 9th, received this morning, have brought us the following articles:— Peals, MAY 11.—The Confiftory of the Reform ed Church at Paris, was this day introduced to an audience of the Flirt. Comm., on which occa lion the pallor made the following fpeech Flair Com s or. —The form of worship which gave to France a SULLY and a Twits:Ns, is wor thy of offering you its homage. The Confiffory of the Reformed Church of Paris expreffes to you, through me as its organ, how much it participates in the public joy and gratitude—a participation in which it is, no doubt, emulated by all the other Eceleliallical Adminiftrations of the fame kind.— You have ieffored Peace to the. State and to the Church—the Hero has conquered it for the former; the Sage for the latter. Enjoy the fruits of your labours; the admiration of Europe • the bene diaicns'of your fellow citizens ; and t hat internal fuffrage which mull unite itfelf to the general ac clamation, but which, when alone, is filfficient to indemnify us for ingratitude and injuftice. Behold Concord and Fraternity univerfally prevail! Civil and Religious difTentions are followed by a train of too many calamities and offences. By you, and by thole who fo honourably parti cipate with you in the cares of a paternal Govern ment, the happinefs of the Republic (it is from you yourfelf, Citizen CoNsuc, that I borrow the ex prefflon) will be as fecure as its glory, and pofteri ty, which does not hatter, will call the nineteenth century of the Chriftian era the age of BONAPIII7. The FIRST CONSUL, in his anfwer, Paid, 4 , That he faw with pleafiire the Members of the confiffory of the reformed church of Paris, that Government • was fenfible of their attachment, and knew that • the morality preached in their temple was pure, • and as favourable to good order as to good man - ners." The Moniker contains alfo addreffes to the CON SUL! from the confiftory of the reformed church of Montauban . ; the confiftory of the confeffion of Angiburgh ; the Proteftant confiftory of the town of Mulbanfen, and various other Protellant churches, all in the high& (train of panegyric. Tien Conforsdi 57 1. to c. HAGUE Aran. z 4 a Decree of the Le giflative Body, the herring as well as the cod Mal is to be encouraged. The proprietor of each boat fitted out for the herring &fiery is to receive a premium of boo florins. The troops defined for the Weft Indies are toi l confift of about +OOO men, boo of whom ate ar tillery. The garrifon of Surinam will confift of :150 infantry, and 150 artillery. Baron HACN. saRD, Charge d'Affaires of his Majefty the Em peror of Ruflia to our Republic, has arrived at Amfterdam : he precedes Count STAK2LEIRG, appointed Minifter Plenipotentiary of the Court of Peterfburgh to refide in the Batavian Republic. The Municipality of Amfterdam have refolved that orders (hall be given to remove the tree of liberty placed before the Town-houfe, as foon as official intelligence (hall arrive of the exchange of the Ratifications of the Definitive Treaty by the different powers concerned. The Jews of Amfterdam, who form a confider able part of that Commune, have obtained per miffion from Government to eftablifh a Lottery ; the profits of which will be applied to the purpofe of maintaining their poor, who daily increare by the great number of individuals whom the war, and its confequences, have obliged to quit the Banks of the Rhine, and a part of Germany, to reek an afylum in this country. IDifferent letters, received here this morning, agree in afferting, in the aloft pofitive manner, that all the Imperial cities, Hamburgh, Lubec, IBremen and Franckfort excepted, will be affc6ed by the Indemnities. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF KING's BENCH, MAY 12. Mr. Serjeant Ws Lt.t ast s moved for a mandamus againft the Sheriff and Jullices of Caermarthen, tor not ere Sing a gaol purl apt to the direftion ► of an Aft of Parliament for thatpurpofe.—Rule 'to thew caufc granted. COKE V. VILLIMONT. This was an anion brought by tbt Plaintiff and his Partners, Merchants, in the tit of London, agyinft the Defendant, who wilts the agent of houfe of trade, under the fi rm M I Vanderneil and Co. formerly of Paris, to recover a fum of 15681. with intereft due from the commencement of the prefent war. It appeared the plaintiffs were, pre vious to the war with England, in the habit of remitting money to the houfe of Vandernetl and Co. for which they received 4#Per cent. During the war, the Partners in Vanderneil's book were all fetit to the guillotine for exporting Ppecie ; and the Plaintiffs, after having remitted the money in quellion, had no one to retort to for payment dur ing the whole period of the war. The Defen dant having fucceeded Vanderneil and Co. in their commercial eftablifhment, became refponfible for their debt, and upon his arrival in this city, the prefent anion was brought againft him. The Jury gave a verdia for 15681 without al lowance of intercft. SEQUESTRATIONS IN SCOTLAND. John RaMon, tanner in Clafgow—Creditor to meet In tie hook of John Sowers, vintner In St. lantana, on lath Mai, at twelve o'clock noon, to chufe an interim radar ; fame place and hour en the Bth June, to cleft a troftee. Creditor. of John Leighton, late merchant in Leith, to meet in John's CoCee-houfe, Edinburgh, on the sth of June, at one o'clock aftersoon,to initrudi the truftee.--Some difiputed dab= not being fettled, the fccond dividend is put oiL The Earl of ST. VINCENT is fo rnuch indifpcifed at his houfe in the Admiralty, that the drums were not beat this morning at the Horfe Guards, or in the Park, as ucual when the guard is relieved. The Tonnage Duty on Goods and Shipping takes effe4t this day, 13th May, on a rated Lift of not lefs than Soo articles of Imported mer chandise. We learn that the Office of Attorney General for the county Palatine of Lancaller, which had been held by Lord Et.i.assoaouo et from the death of the late Mr. Lis, his Predeceffor In that Office. until his Lordihip's !aft Promotion, whereby the fame became vacant, was immediately afterwards given by the Chancellor of the Duchy to Mr. Ser rant COCRELL. We underftand that the French General Des. TAnIG, whole fate in a duel we mentioned yeller. day, was killed by General Rton 'a. The guar rel arofe from an obfervation of Rewrite raped ing Derraimo's condua in the battle of the 2lb March in Egypt. The latttr had been wounded and retired, and Reosiaa had remarked, that had he hintfey been wounded fo nightly he fhould have remained at his prd. A duel was the confequence. They fought with piitols at twenty paces, ad vancing two paces each (hot. REONISR was wounded by the fecond. An explanation was at. tempted, and RZCNI Et faid that he did not mean to impeach the perfonal courage of the other; — but DesraiNo Paid that no apology for fuch an of fence to a foldier could be received. 14o:cites next fhot entered his forehead, and killed him on the fpot. Yellerday morning, about (even o'clock, the I Mare Phenomena, and the Peaty, flailed on Epfom Race Ground, to perform over the Turf their fe cond match for sso guineas a fide, the Mare allow ing the Poney one mile in the hour as before on the road. The Mare gained ground confiderably for the fira two miles, but after that, for fome diftance further, the did little more than keep it. The Poney was driven into a gallop four times, and being obliged as often to turn round, occa fioned great difadvantage. When the hour ex pired, a gun was fired as a fignal for the Riders to pull up, which being done, it was Co nice a mat ter that the ground was obliged to be meafured to determine the wager; when it was found that the Mare had only won by about so yards.—The Mare did not quite perform 17 miles within the hour.— At the conclufion of the match two Ponies well known on the Turf were matched to run a mile over the Courfe at the next Epfom Races. Several other matches of the fame kind have been mad.: to be performed at the fame time. Whilft the Proclamation of Peace was reading at the Cattle-market, Canterbury, on Wednefday fe'nnight, a carriage, heavily laden with baggage, belonging to Sir THOMAS Csays RIN 0, Bart. of Ax well-park, in the county of Durham, on its way for the Continent, was driven over G. Skinner, a tanner in North-lane, and the hind wheel going over his head, crufhed it in a mob dreadful man ner.—He furvived but a few hours. On Saturday the Coroner's inqueft was taken, and the Jury rc. turned a verdift of znanflaughter. The fervants who fat upon the box, and the two poftillions, were in confequence committed to St. Dunftan's gaol, there to remain till they find fureties. At the Police Office, Whitechapel, yerterday, Margaret Davies, alias Clayton, was fully com mitted for trial, charged by two t ailors, lately di/- charged from the fervice, of the above names, with having intermarried with them, knowing them to be bill living. She was going to be married to a third tailor, at the time of their arrival. At Pontefraa feiGons, Henry' Dobfon, a native of Norwich, but lately refiding at Dieppe Dalle, near Rouen, in France, was found guilty of having in his poffeffion at Oat, near Wakefield, plans of machines ufed in the woollen manufaeory, which he had colleeed with an intention of conveying to France. He was fentenced to be imprifoned twelve months in York Cattle, pay a fine of 2001. and be imprifoned until the fame was paid. COUNTY Of SOMSRSIT.AmAt the recneft of feeefal Gentle men of this County, I appoint a General Mating of the County to be bold at the Town-Hall, in on Monday the 24th of May loft. at One &Clock in the Afternoon, for the parpufe of taking into eonftderadon an Addreft to his MA. /MTV on the happy reftoration of Peace. BS/4011LIA Guaymas, &air. Stag May is, 1802.