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Negroes, or he would not have failed to bring it for ward. But ever fume the regulations enacted rerpee ing the middle pelage, &c. he was quite perfuaded that the Hon. Mover could not find out one folitany inßance of cruelty. That Hon. Member had nothing new wi,h uti:ch to intereit the feelings of the Houk, and therefore it was left to its cool judgment to de cide the miellion. To that judgment then he would. confidently appeal egainft this wild propofition. If the Houfe would content to abolilh the Trade, he would put it to the candour cf Gentlemen to confider whether, from the avidity with which the Slaves were fought after, that valuable traffic would not fall into other hands? It was known, indeed, that there were not leis, by the laR accounts, than five American (Lips of large burthen taking in Slaves un the Coon of Africa ; and to thew this and other important farts necelfary to qualify the Houfe to determine fairly. , was the rearon for willing that evidence Mould be examined and enunfel heard at the bar, as the peti tions on the table rcquefted. Among the mifchiefs confequent upon the difeuffion of this meafure, and which mull inevitably follow its adoption, he Rated the sffociaticm that would naturally arife in the minds of the Negroes between the abolition of the trade, and their emancipation. Such an ace, he thought, mull reafonablyfellow—and what claim, he would ale, could thole Negroes have to the rights of free dem in this country. who forfeited their liberty in their own native foil ? In anfwcr to the charge of kidnapping, which had been fo often urged, and which no doubt would be repeated this night, he had only to Rate in proof of the improbability of loch a praOrce,that reveral of the principal mercantile bottles in this trade had fixed eflablifhments on the coati of Africa, a thing ..Bich it wastint reafonable to rop• pore never could h iv: Ivo c been attempted, had our merchants been liti'ty Of a praltice that mull have Tendered them peculiarly h itcful to the natives, and perpetually apprehenfive of their jolt refen;ment. If the trade were to be ahnlilhed, he could not conceive . what was to !leonine of the cultivation of our Colo. nies—for no rational heing'coold think that the pre fent negro popi.l aloft of the Inands was rofficient for filch cultivation. That was too alvfurd to be imagined, and it was not let's to, in his opinion, to maintain that it would be go id policy, loom chimerical notions of humanity, to dlr.:a d the experience of a century and a half. Would i. he pt ',dent. he would afk, to lay afide merely in compliment to a fpcculative opinion, the fyf tern tinder whic . . tint Coliitiies had lb long profpered, and our revenue been fo materially improved? Would it be prudent at this period, particularly when our colonies were ro circumftanced, with the y e e o llealon of the calamities In recently fuffered in St. Domingo, hr confequence of the operation of. a !hailer procedure. and the proximity of that ifland to our colonies ? Thin proximity was a circumflance from which more was to be apprehended than Gen tlemen were pe-h.or. aware of. • Symptoms of its ef fees had vet y lately appeared in our Blanch, and had not a fpirit of coniairacy among our negroes been date/red in due tine, it was dreadful to race upon what might h.tre been the fate oldie Whites. Bo naparte had &elm ed a particular folicitude with re (pea to the colonies ; and fhould the French fleet have gone, as was apprehended, to the Welt Irdies, wilathope could the enemy entertain of any material fuccefs in that quarter, uniefs through the co-ope ration'of the Blacks, amonga whom the mcafure be fore the Houle was fo well calculated to excite no tions congenial to his views ? Soch notions, it was reafonable to foppofe, and it was obvious (ruin expe rilnce, it wiiti?,l be improper to diffeminate among men not in a lime to comprehend and digell them. The recent etatnple in France afforded an awful ex ample of the confequences of communicating liberty to men before they were fitted to receive it. What then was likely to follow from giving emancipation to the Blacks, fur which they would, in the event of this Bill palling, very naturally look ? Emancipation Could not, from the grounds upon which this mea fore relied, be conli.tently refuted. The principle upon which the whule feet who were warmed in fup porting the motion• before the Houfe, as Itrongly pleaded for the one thing el , lthe other.. Whether that principle originated in a religious niaion • or from a wildners of imagination, he would not inquire ; but . it Renck him as particularly fingular, that his Ma jetty's Minittcrs Ihould set upon it in this inflance, af ter having very recently entered into a contract for 5000 laves, for the purpofe of converting them into an armed body for the ore of the Well India Minds. If l a ves were to he purchafed at all, he could nett fee why not for civil as well as military purpofes. The principle alle, Aed by the advocates of the motion be fore the fut cly alloaved of no exception; and with this mcafute in contemplation, it was a very grange policy in cloverhment to go into the market for the purchafe of filch a number of Raves. Molt men out of 'loots, who were unconnected with the WeR India Minds, and who bad not much confider ed the fuhjee, were in the habit of crying out for tfie abolition of the trade under dircoffion ; but he, would call upon filch men to race upon the effen tial importance of this trade to the profperity of opr colonies, and the importance of thole colonies to the revenue and ftrength of the empire, particularly at the prefent crifis, when it was fo material that no part cf that revenue or ftrength fhould be diminifhed.— He requeßed the Houfe and the Country to confider what a number of our manufacturers, particularly in the cotton branch, which was at prefent in rather an unfavourable Rate, derived employment from the Weft India trade. If the Bill before the Houle were adopted, he was Pure he did not over.rate, when he ited that the effect would be to throw not lefs than ' 'se,ooo perfons out of employment. This was a fe films confideration, Which, he trotted, would make a due impreflion upon the Houfe. It had been inti mated that fume planters were anxious for the paffirig of this Bill. Puffibly they were, but if fo he fhould rather think them the owners of large plantations who had their full complement of,firtee, and who might, therefore, be biaffed in their judgment, parti cularly as it was obvious that the Immediate effea of this meafore would be to extinguifh the fmaller planters. The opinion, therefore, of inch puffins, wee gather acs chic& of fufpicion. The Honourable Mover had oliferved that nothing new had offered fince the left feflion on this fubjea. From this obfer cation, it was evident the Honourable Member had not teen the report of the Affembly of Jamaica, for, in that very able report, there were many fees and arguments both new and forcible, again a the adop tion of the Bill before gie Houle. This report would, be trufled, have the aka of producing fo*E change oefentiment among the Member& of that Houfe and the people out of doors. To the argo ments draws fsom the difproportion of Blacks to Whites in the Wands againß any further imyortatiou of negroes, and of courfe In favour of this Bill, be thought an anCwer eafy. The general proportion at prefent throughout our large Wands was go Blacks to one White. It was obvtius, therefore, that any . . danger that could arife from numbers already esift ed, and that a farther addition to that number in the ordinary progrefs of importation could not be contemplated as a ferious ground of alarm. On the whole, much as he regretted the difeuffinn. of this meafure at any time, his regret was particularly ex cited by the introduainn of it at prefent. But, as it was introduced, it was his ansious wi(h that the opi nion of the linufe fhould be decidedly exprefred again( it, in order that the minds of the Planters (horrid be fet at cafe, and that any fermentat . fhould be prevented among the Negroes. The _ nourable Member concluded with movingitn amertd ment, that the Bill fhould be read a feeond time "on this day fix months." ' Th: Qt2eflion being put from the Chair, that the_ word " nnw" (boold :l an d part of the Bill, Mr. C. BROOKE conceived that if the Bill before tit Houk were agreed to, the effect would be t 6 throw the trade into the hands of our rivals and enemies, France and Spain, and Oro to induce the emigra tion of the greater part of our fmaller planters to their colonies.—The temptations held out to fuch perfons, and to our merchants and mariners alto, by the French Government during the laR peace, were well known, and fuch temptations ntuß ebvionfly derive increafed influence at a future period from this meafdre, (hoed it pals into. a 14w. As an evidelce of the with of the Spaniards to puvfue this traffic, he could Rate that the ports of the Oland of Cuba had been thrown open to the (hips of all po tions, hnd that within the laft year no lefs than eighty thonland Slaves were imported into that fingle ifland. If the trade only ()lifted hands, what advantage, he would afk, could arifc to the Africans front quitting , it ? On the contrary, he contended that, on the fcore of humanity, the Africans were better treated in out colonies than they were in their native country, or were likely to be by any other nation. Sir WILLIAM YOUNG thought it difrefpeeful in the Honourable Mover towards the Colonifts,to af fert that nothing new had offered fince the lift Ser. fivn upon this important object, notwithilanding the able report of the Committee of the Legifl ttive Af fembly of Jamaica, which the Honourable Gentle. man had palled by in (Hence. That report contained filch arguments as were fdfficient to make many Gen tlemen change the opinion they entertained IRA year, and there was ground to hope that as not more than 27,0 members had ever voted on this mearnre, the re maining members of the Houle would come forward to lave the country from the cenfecinences that mull enfue to the Colonies from the adoption of this Bill. The Houle fhould ever bear in mind, that although we tn igh t quit it, it was not in our power to abolifh the African trade. . from the authority of Mr. Mungo Park, and Mr. Brown, it appeared that not lels than three fourths of the population of that part of Africa to whit:: we traded were slaves, and if we did not purchafe them, other purchafers whom we could not prevenC would be found. The Honourable Ilaronet rqmarked upon the :We of the Colonies a: prefent to be fuch,th.tt it would be impoffrble that a Committee fhould not be appointed in the courfe of the Seffions to inquire into their fituation. In refpee to the impor tance of the colonial trade to this country, and its progreffive advancement, he limed that the whole amount of that trade in the reign of Charles 11. was not equal to the mere ditties payable out of it at pre fent and that from January 1803, to January 1804, the imports from the Welt India Wands to this coun try, in coffee, fugar, &c. exceeded feventeen millions Reding. When this was confidered in conjunction exports, with the amount of our which were particu _ _ lady valuable from Ireland , which fenrout annually above 7o fail of (tipping laden with indvifmns and linen, and imrrtenfe capital employed, he Magid the }Lac would be cautious of tampering with fuch a produaive fource of national wealth. Mr. BARHAM laid, that he was convinced - that as an Hon. Gentleman below him had tad, this was the time for the abolition of the Slave Trade, if it was to be done at all, he was fatisfied that it was now praelicable, that it was always deferable, but that now it was neceflary. There were four points to which he willed to call the attention of tfie Houfe. i ft, The general policy of the meafure. ad, Its prac ticability. 3d, The danger arifing to the colonies from not promoting it; and, laftly, The joflice of the thing. As to the general policy, it was once laid that this traffic was abfolutely neceffary. This afrertion was hoWever partly abandoned. This individual branch of trade would certainly be defkroyed ; but as it was only a fault part, this was of lefs importance. idly, With regard to the prafticability of the mea lure, he was once of 6pinion that it was not praftf cable ; and it the fame circumflances had esifted he would have been Rill of the fame opinion. The ca pitals would once have been certainly cartied away into foreign countries, but now the cafe was altered. Inflead of engaging their capitals in hazardous (pe culation, the metthants and planters would rather bring them borne if neceffary. Slaves could not now be fmuggled into Jamaica from St. Domingo. He had no doubt that if the meafure was pallid now, it would fucceed. It was not likely that the traffic would pafs into other' hands. Other nations had given indications of their intentions to put an end to the Slave Trade. He knew that no change could be adopted which would not be attended with danger. But was there no danger in continuing the trade ? The increale of the proportion of Negroes to the White Inhabitants of the colonies was daily increafing. The ttaffic was conflantly adding to the difpropor lion, and the defire of liberty was inflamed by every cargo of frcfh imported negroes. Regard was to be had to the fituatton of St. Domingo, where there was no people to enter into competition with us in the Weft Indies. The danger of abolifhing the trade was lefs, then, than that of continuing it.—ln the Cafe.of a man who laboured under a difeafe, what would a wife phyfician do ? He applied the remedy while the patient was capable of receiving it ; and thus flood the affair with refpeft to our Weft India colonies.— He could mention a great man whom he could pro duce at the bar of the Houfe, who was of opinion that the aboF.tiou was a proper meafure. As to the aat♦teain tie We In4 hes, he hied/ hAdone, and is want of labourers ;L but flu he could nut re -tab his Went to mexfure. The danger from the ' a builtioo would come When we were prep.tred for it: bull, in the other cafe, it might come unawares and overwhelm us while unprepared to refill it. He ap proved of a propolition which he once heard, of de fending the colonies by foldiers from our dominions 'in the EA. He meant no difrefped to the merchants, who were enraged in this traffic. There were many enlightened men among them. Yet their intereils were not the fame with thole of the landed proprietors. . The merchants derived their profijos from the extent of the traffic, in which rapid fortunes were accumu lated. To the trade, no doubt, it would be ruinous to pafi this meafure. He would no longer trouble the Wok, but allow that point to be difeulfed by thole whoa interens might be more immediately cncerned. General TA RLETON.—" I confides it as a duty iiiiiinbent on me to oppo( this meafure with all the isbalry which I poll ifs. The godliest) is fuch, that it certainly deferves the molt ferinus deliberation, and the Cook inveftigation of the Houle. I truft, there fore, that the reasons urged againft the meafure will be heard and weighed with all that candour that becomes an Altembly Inch as this. In the opening, part of the speech of the Gentleman who has jolt fat down, he Paid that now or never was the time to put in pra(hce the meafure of the Abolition.— Sir. I fee nothing in the prefent time that, in this rdped, peculiarly dillingnifhes it from former times. At all times, I have thought this a moll ruinous meek . and the prefent time contains nothing t• make me alter my opinion. The Gen tleman then obferved, that the Slave Trade was not the great nurfery of our feamen. This is a molt extraordinary affertion. Surely, if the Honourable Gentleman bad attended to the fubjed, he would be fully convinced that our very belt feamen came from the Guinea (hips and the Welt India trade. In or der to be convinced of tne vaR importance of this traffic io every refped, we have only to attend to the fituation of Liverpool, and compare the Rate of that , city with what it was not more than a century ago. Its population, about a hundred years ago, was about 2500. This population carried on its trade in about 100 barks. Its capital was then about ro,oool. What is its (late now ? It employs no lefs than about nine thoufand (hips manned by a praiser complement of feamen, the belt and molt expert in the Britilh Navy. Its population is between 8o Ind sio,ooo, and its capital confi(ts of the number of its former thou. lands turned into millions. Yet it is certain that this amaxing profperity is almoll entirely owing to the Slave Trade. This is certainly a curious time to put an end to the source from which the wealth and gran deur of a confiderable city in the empire is derived.— Bonaparte has raid that we cannot contend with him !Ingle handed : now, however, lie is backed by Spain, and, in all probability, Portugal will foon be ranged on his fide. Are not, I would ark, our principal means of fecurity derived from our feamen, and thefe are in a great mature, at lean many of the bell of them, procured by the trade of Liverpool. It is not a little aftonifhing, therefore, to hear any one fay that this is the time for abolishing; trade which fupplies us with fo many feamen. Is the time when we are engaged in (oda war as the relent, a war in which fo many feamen are required, upon whom we Ferias our chief fecurity, is this a tima for Inch a meafure as this, a meafure that gnes to eoniplete the ruin of one of the 'chief nurferies from which oK feamcp, and conse quently our meafures of fecurity, are in a great mea lure derived. This meafure, sir,is certainly founded on the opinions refpeding the Rights of Man, which have produced fo much horror and &variation all over the World. It is a remnant of jacobinifm. I am Pure that the Honourable Gentleman who urges it, is not in his heart a Jacobin, but fill' the effed of his condudi is the fame as if he were one. I (hall beg leave to mention a Rory to him, in which I we, myfelf concerned :—I went to Paris in t yet, out of euttofity, (a laugh). Yes—l had nearly as much curiofity to fee what was going on, as you (alluding to Mr. Fox), hid in going to fee Bonaparte.— Having arrived at Paris, I was : a nxious, like moil grangers, to fee what was going for Ward. Among other things, I wished to go to vile the Jacobin Club. But a friend, who knew the place better than I did, diltuaded me, laying, 66 Oh! my dear Sir, you muft not think of going there, you have oppofcd the Abolition of the Slave Trade, and confequently are regarded as an abomination by the Jacobins, and you might be in daner of your life. Mr. Wilberforce is :he great favourite of tie Jaco bins, who has arenuoufly defended their tenets of the Abolition. It is even credibly believed, that the Club will fend to Mr. Wilberforce a Diploma of Jacobi. nifm." I am cbnvinced that the principle of Jacobi nifm is that upon which this meafure is formed. Let us regard the hiftory of Europe for the fait 3o years. What was it but a tiffue of crimes, murders, and defolation ? Horrible sera, which ought, if poliible, to be blotted out of the memory of man. Kings were maffiscrell, their thrones overturned, regular Governments were deliroyed, and anarchy and con-' fufion fubllituted in their (lead. The paflions of people were roofed, the controul of reafon was laid aside, and the conqnences molt dreadful. The whole of this ended in a military manibeing railed to the throne with mote splendour and honours than if it had been poffeffed by the Houfe of Bourbon; and yet, if we trace the principle that led to all there horrors, we (hall find it to be precifely the fame with that upon which this meafure is founded. Both pro ceed from the fpirit of the Rights of Man. In confider ing all this, it may perhaps °be allowed, that what we call an averfenefs to change, and a fOncluefs fur expe rienced fyltems, are virtues of a hiuher clefs than has been generally imagined. He would advife the Hon. Gentleman to confult with his friend on his left hand ( Mr. Pitt) and ark him to reconcile the fuppoit which he gives to the prefent meafure with the in trododion of black troops, compiled of flares, to defend our colonies in the Welt Indies. Thit fuch a projeift as this was in contemplation, I am credibly informed, and I have no intention to affirm that it is not a good one. But yet it is wonderful that tlinfe who perfill in such a projed, can defend their confif tency in the prefent itillance. lithe Slaves could with fafety, and with juftice, be emancipated, I would cer tainly give my hearty concurrence to the Abolition of the Trade. But let us look at the flare of our co • lonics, and our own fituation at this moment, and we mull be convinced that we cannot pat's filch a Bill as /this with fafety to ourfelves, and plaice to the rani cidar clars of petrons who are more imm:diately in welled in the Slave Trade. Tie colonies would be reedy to do every thing. confillent with their own Infety and interells, for the good of the State ; but this mesfure is certainly contrary to both : let us, therefore, abandon this excel, of goodnefs, and tread in the pro dent Reps of our forefathers. Mr FULLER.—" I am told that a contrail is aetually entered upon with Government to procure (laves, as troops for the Weft Indies at 551. per man. How this can be reconciled with the cundua of a Right Honourable Gentleman on the prefent occa fiott, > L utterly at a lofs to conceive. This is fup porting a meafure in one way, and oppofing it in ano ther. An Honourable Gentleman has raid that this was the proper time for abolifltlng the Slave Trade. This, Sir, is in complete contradietion to the re port of the AfTembly at Jamaica. This is not the proper time for this meafure. There has not as yet been fufficicnt time for one of the patties to be heard,. The Honourable Gentleman has &id that fufficient evidence has already been given. &it' this evidence has not been given on oath. Another reafon agtinfl this abolition is that the plantations, efpecially the fmall ones, mutt be abfolutely given up in cafe it is effeled. But an Honourable Gen. tleman (Markham) defponds, aud Pays " Oh Lotto, I with I had my capital in this country." Why fa • would we all, if. we could get it there without any hopes of an adequate advantage. But what could we do if we were all to defpond on the prefent mato (ion ? Nothing would remain for us but to throw our ('elves at, the feet of Bonaparte. It has been raid that . foreign nations had given indications of abandoning this traffic. The Honourable Gentleman, I fuppofe, means the former. It was very eafy for then', to be fore, to give it up, fence they have loft almoft all their colonies, and therefore have very little need of (laves ; but is that the fituation of this country Another difadvantage which would refult hem the adoption of this mealure, is, that in fuch a cafe, we could fcarcely find agents to manage our proper ty in the Weft Indies. The great inducement to them for going out, is the chance of being able 'to procure Slaves, and commence Planters on a fmall kale at firft for themfelves. Utiles a profpeft of this kind is held out, it is certain that no' people will remain in the Colonies, even for the ma nagement of our belt eflates. The people of this country are fo good, and their feelings for others, though millaken, are fo amiable, that I would wit lingly indulge them if I could. If, therefore, they will begin to cultivate another ifland with Malays or Hie doos, or what do you call them, and fucceed in the fcheme, then I (ball certainly follow the example. An Hon. Gentleman had adverted to the want of com penfation in this Bill. certainly it does happens that in a Bill that goes to deprive fo many people of their property, there is not one claufe to indemnify the fufferers for their loges. Would this have been done even in a common Ttimpike Bill ? If the .1-10n4ur able Gentleman had propofed fuch a thing he would be fcoated from one end of the Houfetto the other ; and can the Houfe be fo iodifferent refpefting the colonies, that any perfon dares bring in a mea lure to treat them with fuels injuftice, and is lie- • tend to with patience ? He would not dare to pro pole to meddle with Englifh property in this man , ner. The only mode in which he could proceed would' ' be this : He would fay to the perfons whom it might be thought neceffary to deprive of their property—we want your land for public purpofes—we will go to an inn, and pay down to you the value. Some men who would be obliged to attend to reafon in com! mon inftances at home, dare to bring forward opprefhive meafures refpedting Wands at three thou fand miles didance. I have already foie!, that the inducement of having fhares to purchafe, is one without which we could not procure agents. As it is, they go and loon have the fame interefts with ourfelves ; but the whole is deßroyed, if you pats this meafttre. The lunation cf the negroes has been the fubjeft of complaint. Very well, Sir, but when we come to talk of the fable, it might be better were we to attend a little to the applica tion. Is not the fituation of the poor in this country in many inflances worfe than that of the negroes? Without meaning to boon, I have given pertuiffion to my own negroes so cultivate considerable fpots cf ground for themfelves, and 'ample time for this pur. pole. I have lodged and' cloth:d, and have engaged a phyfician to attend and prefiribe to them. 1 have done every thing for their comfort. Can he fay that he has done fo much, with all his talk and noife about humanity, for the peafantry of Yorkfhire ? What would we fay of th- tailors of this country, thofe to whom we owed f muet for our fecurity ? They were liable to be 'mpreffel, were fubjea to quarantine, and cape f d to p:rpetual hardfhips.— But then we are told that they chufe this fort of life. No, they do not chufe it—they are feized by officers while they are boys, and fent on board almoff before they have a minde capable of choice. Upon the whole, confidering the injultice done to the dolo*s in this cafe, there is reafon to apprehend, that tone::. times they who make the greatest profeffions of reli'ai gion are often the greateft cheats (a laugh). Mr. HILEY ADDINGTON role to exprefs his opinion againft the Abolition of the Trade; the queftion was certainly one of the greateft importance, and of vaft magnitude, and the decifion of it molt be productive of great good, or 'of the molt ferious mifchief. He was lorry to fay that the opinion he originally gave of the impracticability of the propof ed Abolition (till remains unaltered. It was not from any want of confederation that his mind had not been changed; on the contrary, he had beftowed uncom mon attention to the confederation of this quellion, from the circumftance of having the misfortune to differ in opinion from many Honourable Friends of his, and from Come who palled the molt diftinguifh ed talents and higheft endowments ; he, at the firfl, thought the ateafure imprafticable. and he thouglt fo ftill ; and he thought, moreover, that the cattle if humanity had not been at all promoted by the agita• lion of the queflion, and was not likely to be benefited by its further dikullion. He was aware that there was a fort of popular odium attached to the defence of the exilling Slave Trade; but Rill he felt a perldt confidence that no popular prejudice of that fort would difincline the Houfe from giving a fall and candid hearing to thole who might think differently on the fubjeft. As for himfelf, lie gave his opinion as an individual, utterly unconnefted - with the Trade. or with the Welt India Colonies, having no other intereft in the qncflion, than the general intact! Negroes, or he would not have failed to hying it for ward. But ever fence the regulations enacted refpell ing the middle pelage, &c. he was quite perfuadet that the Hon. Mover could not find out one Caw inßance at:cruelty. That Hon. Member had within, new wi,h oh:ch to intereit the feelings of the Houk and therefore it was left to its cool judgment to de cide the quelleoto To that judgment then he woul confidently appeal egaine this wild propofition. I the Houle would content to aboliffi the Trade, h would put it to the candour cf Gentlemen to confide Iwhether, from the avidity with which the Slaves wet fought altor, that valuable traffic would not fall int other hands? It was known, indeed, that there wei 1 not lets, by the tan eccounts, than five America thips of large burthen taking in Slaves un the Coon Africa ; and to thew this and other important fail necelfary to qualify the Monte to determine fair', was the rearon for willing that evidence Mould I examined and enunfel heard at the bar, as the pet tions on the table rcquefted. Among the mifchie confequent upon the difeuffion of this meafore, ar which mull inevitably follow its adoption, he (late the sffociaticm that would naturally arife in the mint of the Negroes between the abolition of the trad and their emancipation. Such an ace, he though mull reatonably follow—and what claim, he wou all, could thole Negroes have to the rights of ire dour in this country. who forfeited their liberty their own native foil ? In anfwer to the charge kidnapping, which had been fo often urged, at which no doubt would be repeated this night, he h; only to Rate in proof of the improbability of loch praetceohat feveral of the principal mercantile heml in this trade had fixed eflablifhments on the co: of Africa, a thing oltich it washot feat:math to fu pore never could h iv: Ivo e been attempted, had u merchants been 1-,tti'ty of a praltice that mull ha rendered them peculiarly h !tau' to the natives, al perpetually apprehenfive of their jolt referoment. the trade were to be aholilhed, he could not concei what was to become of the cultivation of our Col Hies—for no rational being'cotild think that the p fent negro polo.' etinn of the Inands was fitfficienti filch cultivation. That was too aisfurd to be imagine and it was not lefs to, in his opinion, to maintain ti it would be go tel policy, loom chimerical notions humanity. to Meat d the experience of a century an , half. Would i. be pt ',dent. he would all, to lay all merely in compliment to a fpeculative opinion, the I tern under whit'. new Colooics had lb long profper, and our rrventic been fo materially improved? Woi it be prudent at this period, particularly when e colonies were ft oectdiatly circumftanced, with I recollection of the calamities fo recently fuffered St. Domingo, la confequence of the operation o limiter proc:dure, and the proximity of that ifh to our colonies ? That proximity was a circumflai from which more was to be apprehended than G tiemen were oe-hair. aware of. • Symptoms of its fees had vet y lately appeared in our if:kinds, and I not a fpirit of contairacy among our negroes b dttefred in due tine, it was dreadful to refleft to what mig'st hare been the fate oldie Whites. naparte had declared a particular folicitude with (pea to the colonies ; and fhoold the French f have gone, as was apprehended, to the Welt IrO whathope ensile' the enemy entertain of any mate fuccefs in that quarter, uniefs through the coo ratiorOof the Blacks, amonglt whom the mcafure fore the Houle was fo well calculated to excite tions congenial, to his views ? Stich notion , , it ieafonable to foppofe, and it was obvious from e: rilnce, it would be improper to diffcminate am , men not in a hate to comprehend and digeft th The recent etatnple in France afforded an awful ample of the confequences of communicating libi to men before they were fitted to receive it. W then was likely to follow from giving emancipa to the Blacks, fur which they would, in the even this Bill palling, very naturally look ? Emancipa &mid not, from the grounds upon which this n fore relied, be confidently refuted. The print upon which the whole feet who were warmed in porting the motion• before the Houfe, as 'troy pleaded for the one thing as the other.. Whether principle originated in a religious notion, or fro; wildnefs of imagination, he would not inquire ; . it Renck him as particularly fingular, that his jelly's Minittcrs fhotild act upon it in this inßance ter having very recently entered into a contract 5000 laves, for the purpofe of converting them an armed body for the ufe of the Well India lad If l a ves were to he purchafed at all, he could tut why not for civil as well as military purpofes. principle allcs Aed by the advocates of the motion fore the Hitu.c, finely alloaved of no exception; with this ;realism in contemplation, it was a : grange policy in clovernment to go into the ma for the putchale of fuch a number of (Lives. I men out of clones, who were unconnefted with WeR India Maids, and who had not much confi ed the fuhiee, were in the habit of crying out tfie abolition of the trade under dileoffion ; but would call upon filch men to race upon the el turf importance of this trade to the profperity of colonies, and the importance of thole colonies to revenue and flrength of the empire, particular': the prefent crifis, when it was fo materialthat no cf that revenue or ftrength fhould be diminifhet He requeßed the Houle and the Country to con] what a number of our manufacturers, particular] the cotton branch, which was at prefent in rathe unfavourable Rate, derived employment from Well India trade. If the Bill before the Houle I adopted, he was Pure he did not overrate, whet ll toed that the effect would be to throw not lets I 'se,oooperfons out of employment. This was ; rictus confiderarion, Which, he trolled, would il a due impreflion upon the Houle. It had been mated that Come planters were anxious for the pa of this Bill. Poflibly they were, but if fo he Oa rather think them the owners of large plantar who had their full complement of.flaoes, and might, therefore, be Wafted in their judgment, I cularly as it was obvious that the immediate e of this meafore would be to extinguiffi the fm planters. The opinion, therefore, of fuch per was rather acs chic& of fufpicion. The Honour Mover had olifervcd that nothing new had of fince the loft refrion on this fubjee. From this o 'teatime. it was evident the Honourable Member not teen the report of the Affembly of Jamaica in that very able report, there were many fafts arguments both new and forcible, again] the s tion of the Bill before the Houle. This :I