Star. — London, England, 1802-04-03 00:00:00

NEW FOREST. • HE Crstriniiinoners authorized by his Majelty's COrrantlliffiClll to carry into execution art Aft pallid in the rti and 40th years of his Majetty's reign, intitulcd, "An Aft thr the bctt-r prefervatinn of Timber in the New Foreft, in the ..:•unty of Southampton, and for afetnaining the Boundaries the (aid Foarit, and of the Lands of the Crown, within the fame." do hereby give notice, that they intend to meet on frt. day the 9th day of April nest, at nine of the clock in the fore noon precifly, at the CroWn Inn, at Lyndhurft, in the Paid ni Southampton, for the purpofe of carrying the Paid Ad Lau execution. By order of the Conmilffioners. JOHN KING, Serrctary. Dated the Bth day of March, itot I 'HE next Meeting of the Trotlees for putting in execution an Aft of Parliament, intitukd, " An Act •n continue the Tern; and enlarge the powers of feverAl Ads of t'Artianient, for repAirin,; the Highways between Tyhutn and I txhri4e, in the County of Middlefex, and for amend:rig the oad tinting from Brent Bridge. over Flairwell liew:h.thrcug,h the Parithes of Hanwell, New Brentford, and E.ling, to the erect Weil= Road the Paid County," and for other pur ?ores, wtll be held at the bocce of Jonas Fox, the Old Hat, in tat Parity of Fai.ug, 011 Saturday the loth day of April, 1801, at Eleven o'clock in the fen:noun. The truftnefs of the day to be entered on .1: ix :,recifely. HOARD and LODGING WANTED, by an elderly l',rfon, (a Widower), in tome plain, refpedable, comfortable Family, who live in a cheerful fituation or neigh bourhood, and have a :nod Carder —diftanee not lefs than so tai!es or more than zas from London. The Gentleman would Ind his own wine, and require nothing but family fire, for which he would pay any adequate turn. Addras a hat (port hating all particulars, to X. Y. at I Coffe--houf., Lor.don. P4RLI.AMENT.ART PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, APRIL 2. Counfel were heard in continuation relative to the Scotch Appeal, Mica e. Scott—namely Mr. MONTGOMERY , as Second Counicl for the Rcipcntlents ; after which their Mirth:fared the furthrr confederation of the cafe till Monday. ('he various Dills before the Hattie were forwarded in their feipeElive Pages. Lord REDCSDALI moved the Order of the day for taking into confederation the Refolutions of their Lord!), i ps' Committee, which were agreed to by the Houfc, relative to the Eleltion of Irifh Peers, and del.ent of Peerages of that part of the United Kingdom, for the purpofe of making j the fame (landing Orders of the Houk. Previous to the Order being read, The Duke of NORFOLK addrefred a few obkr !rations to their Lordlhips, refrifing the notice he had given on a former evening, relative to the Standing Order of 1 767, the fulailance of which, was, that his Grace repeated his with, that tome other Noble Lord, more converfant in the fubjeft than himfelf, and more competent to it, would come forward on the occafion. The Noble Duke teemed to expel this would be the cafe, and con cluded with Elating, that in the prelim inftance, he would not trouble the Houfe upon the Inkjet. The Order of the Day was then read, and the Refolutions, which were confirmed by the Houk, were, after receiving Tome farther flight Amend ments, voted Standing Orders. After the whole were gone through, The Marquis of Sun° addreffed Tome obferva tions to the Houfe, on the general fubje& of the Irifh Peerage, which, he teemed to think, requir ed farther inveffigation, and to merit the ferious attention of the Houk. He particularly lamented the rejetion of the fecond Refolution, originally adopted by the Committee, a circumflancelighly dtadvantigeous to the Irifh Peers, who he teemed to fay, merited a better treatment, having made great facrifices for the purpofe of confolidating the union and conneetion of the Sifter Kingdoms; at the fame time, he admitted, the proceeding might be intended far their advantage, and for the better fecurity of their rights. His Lordfhip inflanced fi , me cafes, in which, under the exifting regulations, the Irifh Peers mutt lie under a con fiderable degree of difficulty and difadvantage, particularly in cafes where an Irifh Nobleman fhould fucceed to his Peerage during the Vacation of Parliament, when no opportunity could e fier of eftablifhing his claim ; as that interval gene rally lafted feveral months, and the Writ of Elec tion being made returnable in 52 days from the tefte thereof, to his right of Elation is confequent ly void, and the Return muff in that cafe be facri flee& The regulations be alluded to muff bear harder (till on thole Peers who were at the time Members of the other Houfe of Parliament, whofe (cats would neceltarily beconie vacated. There were not only pollible cafes, but which mull tome times occur, and in thofeinttances he taw no pot. 'Milky of Peers being able to effablifh their claims; and to the elle& of inch regulatiOns, he mull ne cefrarily entertain the ftronge ft objeftions ; he would therefore: ft rongly preli thofe confederations to the attention of the Houk. In addition to there, there was another point, which no perfon of confederation, nor any other than tiinfe of im perious duty could induce him to advert to, name ly, to the circumttance of there being on the Rolls of the Houk, an inflance of alltitifb Peer having fat as one of the Reprefentatives of the Irilb Peer age —[We believe the Noble Marquis alluded to the cafe of the Bifhop of Derry, who is alto Earl of Bari] ; and that was a point, which,he thought called tor the fpeedy and ferious conlideration'of the Bonk. several private Bills were brought up from the Commons by Meffrs. ALIIX•VDER, SMITH, and KYNAtstos, which being read a fiat time, and tome private bufinefs difpored of, their Lordlhips adjourned till Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The S read a ktter tranfmitterl to him by Lord RanesnaLe from Lord KEITH. expreffive of his fati.l.tlion at receiving the Thanks of the Houk, for his C'onduet off the roaft of Egypt, which he had communicated to the Officers of Lis Fleet. Certain accounts were prefented from the African Company, .stripielt were ordered to lie on the Table. . A Petition was prefented from the Inhabitants of the City n' lit rabid, praying for the Repeal of the Income 'lax --Ordered to I OD h Table. Mr. Ponta, from the Exchequer. prcfented an Account . tif t the Income of the Confolidatcd Ford, with the Charges . tfercon, which vat ordered to lie on the'fable, and to be 'printed. ' . Mr. N. Vats TTAIT moved. that the Eflbtate of the Charge of the French Emigrant Clergy, Auretican I.nyalirit. .*c. laid on the Table on the 24th of March, Mould be with -411",1. and 11"otherEltimategrefeut..4.--Ordt red. He Ihortly atterwartis prefented the Manic tut ant, whicit was ordered to lie co. the 'l.sk. lib* , :i The Eleet:m Tireataig BM watt through a Committee, and the ft-port was brmaybt upend ordered to be taken irto further coaderatlon on Wednefday next, and the Bill was ordered to Sc printed. Mr. WICKNAM prcfented a Petition from the Commilfion ers for improving and widening the Streets of Dublin, praying for Parliamentary Ail—Ordered to lie on the Table. Mr. M. A. TAY Loa gave notice. that he thould brirgforward the motion of which he had before given netice, relative to Mr. Grchvilles Ad, on the 26th inft. The Order of the Day for the ((Timid reading of the Coroners Bill, was deferred to Wednefday next, ou the motion of Mr. MAtt4waLino. Tlr.Alderman Cox at prefented a Petition from the Citizens of the Ward of Cattle Baynard, in the City of London, praying fur a Repeal of the Income Tax. - . General GaiscoTut rote to Men that an Account Ihould be I..id before the Houle of the quantity of Rum, Cotton, Coffee, and Sugar, imported into Great Britain from the Colonies of Surinam, Demerara, Effequebo, Berbice, Martinico, and St. Eitana, for three years, ending the IR of Jan. dos, with the produce of the Duty, Ste. The Hon. Gentleman added, that if any objediou Ihould be made to this motion, he would with draw it, and briug it forward on a future day. Mr. PLONIER was of opinion, that previous notice thould be given of a mo tion of this nature. This appearipg to be the general fentimcut of the Houfe, the motion was withdrawn, the Hon. Mover clerking it to be underitood that he thould very loon fubntit it again to the Houfe. CORN TRADI. Lord CIA/Imm a moved to poftpone the eonfileration of the Report of the Committee relative to the Corn Trade of Great Britain and Ireland to Monday.—Ordered. DUCHY OF CORNWALL. Mr. Isitcnotts gave notice, that he mould, on Friday nextf move for a Committee to inquire and report what Sums of Money had been received, and by whom, on account of Leafee granted of the Pail:Gone of the Duchy of Corrisv.lll, by virtue of an Ad of Parliament, of the Bth of his prefent RANCOR ROAD BILL. The Order of the Day being read for the fccond reading of the Bangor Road Bill, Sir R. Vi'ILLIAMS moved, that it be read a fccond time this day three months. A man-ration of fume tenth took place between Mr. A. Swim , Mr. JONES, I.ord BrI.GRAVE, Mr.lL BROWNE, Sir C. lbsuor, lord DE BLACiVICRE, Mr. K. PoWE:I., and Mr. ALEXANDrit, when the Horde divided upon .h.: Amend ment—A) cs to, Noes 6o.—The Bill was then read a and time. GRENADA ►LANTERS RILL. The Houk then raf,ire4l itfelf into a Committee upon the Grata.la £l.iiitcra LiLL Mr. Alderman LUSIIIPMTON Lid, that the firft inftalment to be piid by the Grenada Planters was to have been in the cmtrfe of t he prefent month, the fecund in March, 1833, and the third in March, 1834; he propofed to put off the first inftal meat till Giftober, 1803, and moved to till up the blank in the Committee to that effat; which was agreed to, after a few words from Mr. josses, Mr. Rossom, and Mr. Wit.ai.a voice. The Report was ordered to be received on Turfelay. SANK 01 ENGLAND. Mr. Rosso' obferved, that ever fince the re• ftrittion in February 1797, with regard to the Me of fpecic by the Bank of England, conliderable fums of money had been paid by the Public to the Bank for fums advanced by way of loan. He un derftood that it was not expefted that the Bank would refume its payments in gold at the period appointed by the Aft of Parliament. This was an important confederation, becatire if the Bank did not recommence its payments in fpecie, it would operate as a very confiderahle hardthip on the Public, fhould it be compelled to continue pay ing intereft—he was of opinion, the Bank aCting upon the fame principle as the Eaft India Com pany, ought at leaft to allow the Public to divide the interelt of the fums advanced. Alturedly it never could be the intention of the country and of the Houle of Commons, to let the Public pay ' large films of money for intereft, while the re. Ittiftion on the Bitnk exifted. With a view, there fore, to fuch motion as he might hereafter deem it neeefTary to fubmit to the Houle, be now moved —" That the proper officer prefect to the Houfc, an account of the feveral fums of money paid by Government to the Governor of the Ba..k of England, for intereft on Loans of Money, fince the reftriftion with regard to the payment of its notes in gold, in February 1797." Mr. KAN Nl'm laid, that according to his notion of the ufe the Hon. Gentleman meant to make of the account, it was his objeft to take back from the Bank a part of the fums Government had, al- ready paid for interelt—he was therefore of opi. nion his motion ought not to he acceded to.— Every Loan, with the terms on which it had been advanced by the Bank, had been fanaioned by the Legiflature. Every Exchequer Bill Aft had been Mauled and approved of, and claufes in. troduced with the approbation of Parliament, to enable the Bank to make its advances, upon the condition of receiving intereft—the Hon. Gentleman was calling upon the Ilottfe to refcind its own folemn alts, and particularly the Aa paired in 1798, by which, in consideration of the Bank ad vancing a certain Pura for fix years, without intereft, its charter was renewed, with all the privileges it before enjoyed—the molt important prtvilegeof the Bank was that of lending money at intereft. It might have been open to the Hon. Gentleman when the Charter was propored to be renewed, to have oppofed fuch renewal, or he might have objefted to particular claufes in ;he Exchequer Bill Os, but, after folemn determinations, coming forward in this manner, with repeated motions for papers, without giving any notice, was certainly extremely improper. The Hon. Gentleman might as well. move for the accounts of fums received for intereft by any private Banker. The CHANCILLOR of the Excurc&yxa laid, he was forry the Hon. Gentleman fhould have brought forward filch a motion without any notice ; poffi bly it might be proper to grant 't, or it might not —he was not prepared to fay whether the motion ought to be received. It was not ufual to make filch motions without notice. He fhould abflain 'from giving any opinion upon the rubjea at pre terit ; he rather wiflied the Hon. Gentleman, in candour to the Houle, would withdraw his mo tion, and name a day for renewing it. • Mr. kossos, in explanation, laid, he did not mean that the public had any right to interfere with the profits of the Bank fur the pei iod that had He only inferred that if the Bank did not pay in gold, it ought not to be allowed to take advantage of that circumftance to the prejudice of the public. The Hon. Member was proceeding, when there was a general cry of Spfe fpoi: ! The CH ANC E ILOR of the ExcitFQ , sit imme• diasely role, and moved thelpleyions question. Mr. Guy filid he had on many nee.' tions dif fered fi om the Charitellor of the Exchequer, with iegard.ta the praftice of giving notices of Motions i %t ;1.5 a pradice not faalioned tin sct y Ltclr by the ordinary pradice of Parliament ; and yet he was ready to admit, that upon quettions of a dif ficult nature it was attended with great convcni ence to the Houfe to adhere to it. In the relent inflance the ground upon which the lion. Gentle man had retied. his Mtaion, required very little confideration ; and if the previous queflion had not been moved, he ftionld have had no lielitation in negativing it. The account he had moved fin was unnecetrary, as every year accounts of films paid by Government to the Bank for Interell of Loans were laid upon the Table ; and the lion. Member, with a very little of his diligence, might have obtained the information he deface!. The objemt of his motion was totally inadmiffible.— He obferved, that a more unfortunate event, in his opinion, for this Country never occurred, than the palling the Bill for refiriding the Money Pay ments by the lkink. He had expreffed his dilly probation of it at the time, and was fully per loaded then and now, that it was a meafure which might have been avoided ; but the law had paired, and having patted, the calling upon the Bank to reform: the payments in fpecie, was a fitbjed of extreme nicety. The difficulties would certainly encreafe it Parliament WAS to continue the prac tice from titre to time as a matter of courfe. He was of opinion the Bank might•and ought to have been prepared to have refumed its payments upon the return of Peace. It was a Peace which bad not been made fuddenly. On the contrary, the negotiations had occupied a confiderable period, and every opportunity had been afforded the Bank of making filch preparations as would have pre cluded the neccffity of continuing the.refiridions. If the Bill for rearaining the payments in money was renewed, without ample inquiry into the ne cellity of fuel) a meafure, it would be an addi tional misfortune to the country. The Honoura ble Gentleman had mil - conceived the fubjed, in fuppoting dna the public ought to !hare the in tereft of films advanced by the Bank to Govern ment. It was on the principle of public conve nience, and not for the advantage of the Bank, the refiridion was impofed ; but unquellionably, what had been done was fandioned by the public faith. With a view to any future operatiQns, the Honourable Gentleman might, if he thought pro• per, move to introduce a claufe in the next Bill to prevent the Bank receiving inter& of the Pub lic during the refiridion. He hoped the Honour able Gentleman would not prefs his Motion. He had thought it right to make there few obferva tions, and to avail himfelf of the opportunity of afking the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether it really was his intention to renew the law for pro hibiting the Bank making its payments in Specie? TheCtieNcem.ct of dte Excuacture faid, it was not his intention to make any preliminary motion of inquiry previous to moving for the continuation of the retiridion. His reafons for the meafure he intended to propofe would be Rated to the Houfe, and it would be for them to decide whether it was proper or not. The Houfe would recoiled, that the At of Reßridion would expire a month after the Definitive Treaty was figned. His motion would be founded on the reafons which he iliould Rate to the Houle, and not on any preliminary inquiry. Mr. ilictioxxs faid, the Houfe ought to know what advantage the Bank had derived from the privilege which had been granted to them. With refped to giving notice, he thought it was unne ceffary to give notice of a motion for the produc tion of 'a public paper. Befides, there was not time in this cafe, as the motion for continuing the refiridion was to be made on Tuefday. Mr. Fu s t.LEa faid, the Chancellor of the Exche quer had entered the Houfe without being in the leall apprized of any motion of this nature, and he thought' it was unfair to perfift in it. Mr. COURTEMAY faid, the only queftion was, whether the Bank had received an advantage or not ? perhaps it had derived no profit from the refiridion ; if they had not, there was no occafion for the account ; if they had, the Ad was inciden tally for the advantage of the Bank. Mr. VANSITTAIT (poke againft the motion for the account. The previous queftion was then put. Mr. Roma faid, the fubjed was one which in. volved the price of every article of life. In anfwer to a remark made by an Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grey) he had only to ohferve , that he could pro bably point out, from papers on the Table, nearly the fum the Bank had received, but if he was to produce and argue upon filch an account on Tuef day, he Rsould be told he knew nothing of the mat , ter. He maintained that all Europe was contem plating the payment of fpecie by the Bank as the criterion of the credit of the country. If the Bank continued to iffue paper, country banks would do the fame without eontroul—they would itruc their notes without mercy. It was, in his opinion, the commencement of a courfe of Affignats. (Order ! order ! and guelion ! was reed from every part of the Houfr.)—He proceeded to Rate, that paper money fupported monopolies, and railed the price of pro. vilions. He hoped the Houfe would encourage his motion—give him the paper, and he knew how to make ufe of it—(a burl of lauglger.) 1 1 Mr. Hoattouss was againa the original motion. Every private Banker made a property of his prin cipal, and why ought the Bank to be denied the fame privilege. -He conceived the motion had no 'relevancy whatever to the quetlion to be bi ought forward on Tuefday. He thought the Chancellor of the Exchequer had dealt mildly in moving the previous gm-Rion. Be wifhed a negative had been moved. _ _ _ Mr. Jow ES (aid, he was forty he differed from his Eon. Friend (Mr. alobhonfe). When he was wont to reafon in the valley_of minority, his argu ments were very different IV what they were now he was perched on majority mount—(a loud laugh.) He juilified the motion of his Hon. Friend, and o%ferved, that fuch was the enormous power of the Bank Directors that the merchants were afraid of them. At a reri44l like the prefent, when the Bank of England was compared on the Continent to a paper kite, Purely it W3S not right to call the previous queilion, on fuch a motion as the prefent, a mild proceeding. As to giving notice, the Chan cellor of the Exchequer was.,continually whole volumes of palms without any aolice on the ; a:1.1 v.•!,at was fair fo r cr.c tra s rtir L: anothzr. Mr. Si r o wiffied Come reglilat:on to be adopt. ed N ith rt•gir:i notiet; of Motion , in fit tore. Tit: previto is rine.t . .o:: ‘r - is p•:t and carried affirmative, wi,hout a divition. t4IhIDAD. Mr. CANNIVC raid, he 1-011. to make the Moti-ar of which he had and as 1•1 riattet ed him fell that no 01.je,-1i(.3 would be rude to it, ilionid Rate, as filortiy as poffible, the r.-aileis which lit founded the prefent !notion, which wts preliminary to one of which !le had alb° given no tice relative to the cultivation of the itland of Tri nidad. He did not difguife that his attention was directed to the quellion relative t.! the SlaveTradz, though he did not mean then to enter into the difcuffion of that quellion ; but often as it had lizeit dilcuffed, and amidit the variety of conflialing opinions relative to that fubjeat, he had never heard any one attempt to maintain that if the Slave Trade did not now exift it ought to be commenced. There had been only two points relative to this fubjea that had been decided upon by the Houle, the one in r 792, that the Slave Trade fhould be gradually abolithed, and the other in 1797, when an Addrefs to his Majctly was voted, praying that his Majefly would be gracioufly pleated to take fuch mealures as would lead to the diminution and ultivisate also. lition of this Trade. It moil be admitted, that to bring a great extent of new lands into cultiva tion, molt be very far from contributing to t' e ultimate abolition of this Trade, and if the Illand of Ti inidad was brought into cultivation, it evidently could not contribute to that abolition. It was important, therefore, that the Houk thoiild be in potiellion of authentic information relative to this Ifland. If he was not mifinformed, the land to be put into a Rate of .cultivation, in the Ifland of Trinidad, was fomewhat more than half the whole quantity of land which was cultivated in all our Weft India Iflands. According to a Statement publiflied by a Member of that Hoare,. now no more, the whole quantity of land in a-ltate of cultivation, in the Ifland of Jamaica, in the year 1795, amounted to tOOO,OOO of Acres, em ploying two hundred and fifty thoufand Slaves.— If he was not much mifinformed, the Hand of Trinidad •contained 800,000 acres, of which, at the time it was captured by Great Britain, only one eighteenth was in a Rate of cultivation, cm. ploying about 10,000 negroes. If 250h000 negroes were employed in the cultivatiOn of the lands in Jamaica, he rcquetted Gentlemen would have in their minds and confider the number of negroes which mull be imported to Rock the lands of Trini dad. The objection molt frequently made by thorn who oppofed the abolition oldie Slave Trade was, that it was injurious to the veiled ititerefts of the Weft India Proprietors. No man war lets willing than himfelf to trench upon thofevelted intere Rs, but this objeCtion would tend rather to ftrengthen the mo tion which he intended to bring forward, as the great advantage refulting from confining his mo tion to Trinidad was, that there was very little property vetted in that Ifland; and he part7eu tarty withed to know, as nearly as poffibL, how many individuals had a 'vetted interea in that lfland ? There was one point he withed to ani madvert upon ; he had been informed that once the capture of Trinidad fome refumption grants of land had been made. The Spaniards had mask feveral grants of this nature, as they had formerly done in Jamaica, that is to fay, the lands were to be refumed if not put in a Rate of cultivation with in a certain time. He wifhed to know what the criterion was by which it was afcertained that the lands were not put into a Rate of proper cultiva• tion. Upon confidering the fubjea, it (truck him that nothing was fo likely to be the criterion as the number of labourers or naves employed in the cultivation of the land. If this was the cafe, and if tlw land was liable to be refumed if there was not a fufficient number of Raves employed in its cultivation, it became a queftion what was the leaft number of negroes without which the land could not be put into a proper Rate of cultivation. Upon looking at Jamaica, he found that 250,000 negroes were employed in the cultivation of i,ooo,oca acres, or one negro to every four acres ; he might take this, therefore, as the kali number of tie groes, without which the land could not be fuffi ciently cultivated. He wafted, however, that the Houfe fhould be in poffe.ffion of every information relative to the fubjeft. He concluded by moving " That an humble Addrefs ihould be prefented to his M.-- jetty, praying that his Majefty would be gracieufly pleafcd to give &talons that there ihould be laid before the Houk, Copies or Alan:rads of all Letters and Information received from the Governor or Commander in Chief of the Illand of Trinidad, bate the period of its capture, relative to the Rare of the Cultivation of the Bland, and an Account of the different Claffes of Inhabitants, and likewife of any Allotments of Land made linec the Capture 4 alfo Copies of all Orders fent to the Governor of the faid IDaad, relative to the Settlement of the fame, and alio an Account of the Lands refutned, with the reafoes of fuch refumption." The CHANCELLOR of the EICHEQ, I I7 , It raid, it was not his intention to objed to the motion made by the Right Hon. Gentleman, nor to offer many obfervations on the nature of the information it would produce, provided the limit** fhould agree to the Addrefs, and his Majelly fhould, as unques tionably he would, be pleated to make an order accordingly. He was only delirous that the Right Hon.pentleman and the Houfe fhould underhand the matter, and fhould not be milled by fuppoting that the information to be obtained in confequence. of this addrefs would amount to that which the Right Hon. Gentleman Teemed to expeet. It ni ,, a 6.1 be the with of Government that every inforrnatiiiii poffible fhould be laid before Parliament, fo as to enable it to form a corred opinion of the value i.f Ithat important acquilition (Trinidad), which vi as made by his Majefty's arms, and fecured by thz. Definitive Treaty ; but he owed it to the ll' ,LICe. Ito fay, that after having made pretty diligent cii quiry, he had not been able to obtain loch infinina- Lion as the Right Hon. Gentleman teemed to ex- . peat, relative to the allotment or diriril.ettiun ~1 land in that part of the world. He had not re. ceived fpecific information on the fubjel of the grants of land. made by the authority of the Go vernment, nor under the head of inaruCtions to Governors, Ike. had he received that witich w; , .% now defired by thc Right Hon. Gentleman. NVith mon