Star. — London, England, 1825-05-11 00:00:00

T , I t 4 I m stsoost latitude the statement of the Hon. Member. No menace had been used to get Petitions from the Protestants. If it had been necessary ! the Protestants would hare loadatthe table with Petitions. Lord A LTHORP said, if the Hon. Member for cower (Mr. Butterworth) had any authority for his statement, he ought to lay it before tbc Committee up stairs—(Cheers).- 4- aOut if the Pro testants had signed ;heir Petitions tbrnugb menpeesi - let *PT kad given their evidence Italy, and that evidence was consistent 'WM those Petitions. Mr. SYKES said the authority ought to be produced, and, if it _ were a letter, it ought to be read. 111r.ROIllikTSON contended that a large proportion of the Irish population ought not to be disfranchised, in order to carry the Ca tholic Belief Hill. Sir J. N IMPORT bore testimony to the growing feeling amongst the Prottetattte of Ireland in favour of Emancipation. The evidence taken before the Committee was worth more than any ammytosou 'tiler. %Ir. BUTTERWORTH said he had made extensive enquiries is Ireland, and had *written circular letters to all classes of people, atuitgadVeceived such information. IIIe.DOH ERTY said he alto received letters from Ireland, from "(rotas of high rank, eminent authority, and professional distinction, expressing their delight at the prospect of the Bill being carried. These letters were unsolicited, and ought to have as much weight as any onsnamed correspondence. Mr. NI. h I I Zts I. 1) said the assertions of the lion. Mem. /her foe Dover were *libel on the Protestants of Ireland. That Hoo. Member's information was gathered by solicitation. If any shops were opened to receive anonymous caluMnies, they would always flock in. Ile hoped suck dark and Insidious misrepresenta tions might be disregarded by the House. The was then ordered to be printed. Sir JOll N N k W PtoRT presented two Petitions from Greenock against tli:. Clyde Navigation Bill.--Ileferred to the Committee. • Mr. S. woaTLEY presented a Petition front Leeds, in fenenr of the County Courts Bilb—Ordered to lie ova the table,. . . . • Lord NUGENT -presented a Petition in favour of the Roman .Catholic Relief Ilill from Leighton Buszatd, signed by tb4 Churchwardens and principal Inhabitants of the town.—Ordered to be printed. ItICE presumed a Petition from Merchants of Belfast,' complaining oldie Dock Dues of Liverpool.—Ordered to lie priatteis -Ake a Petition from Limerick. respecting the Laws aLout deo: serted children in Ireland.—Ordered to lie on the table. Sir R. WILSON presented a Petition • from the Sawyers at Sontkwark, praying that the Consbination Laws might not be . .re- w6-4.i. to lie on the table. tdr. Alderman WOOD presented a Petition from the ludise Shoemakers of London, praying that the Combination Laws a tn not be re-esutedoind cvanplaining that they seem *Werp Ordered to be referred to the Conunktee. The Dublin and London Road NU was read a snood time, and :moved to be coentukted. . General GASCOY NE asked whether any arrangements were . about to be made to facilitate the Mails between ifdinhttralt and London? Mr. HERMES said, that some experimental alterations were now in operation, and she subject was under the consideration of the Treasury. Be hoped that a whole day would be saved. soMAW CATHOLIC RELIES SILL. Ur. Secretary PEEL presented Petitions against this Bill, front Norwich, The!wall, Olney, the Dissenting Congregation in Beres. ford -street, Walworth, St. Ante's,' Westminster, Edmonton, Holcombe (Devon), Bitstall (Yorkshire), the Dissenters of Lisle street, Leicester-square, a Parish in Renfrew, and a Petition signed by 28,000 inhabitants of Manchester. Air. T. PHILLIPS said, that the last Petiden was signed by persons who did not dare to can a pleb& meeting. The parch ments were exhibited ip the streets, mid retry Mike was muted to to obtain signatures. Even boys bad been eajeled Into ageing it. The Magistrates of Manchester were all of one party in po litics, and were not remarkable for their liberality, and had at. tempted to establish Orange Societies in Lancashire. Appliesdese were made to the various Dissenters, but the illethodists.wese the only sett who signed it. It might fairly be called " a hole and corner" Petition. A public meeting was afterwards bad, and another Petition was gat up, which would be presented by a Noble Friend, containing 8,600 names, and at least 1,000 more were left bebiud, on loose sheets. In a day or two wort. at least 15,000 names could have been procured. The feeling of the respectable part of the population was in favour of the Catholic Claims.. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that he bad refrained from making any remarks on former occasions, when he hapresented•Petitions, except to say that they bad not originated with hiss. Hooters, however, now instructed to deny the allelletieht of the Hhhtsheehle Member ( Mr. Phillips'). it did not pro/errata be the. Petiden_ Manchester, but. only of " the undersigned inhabkarts of cheater." True, it bad not preeetdid hod epubilesneedoge:midi the reason was, hat some of the Comodtteie having liorougbreeve, that Officer advised them not to Z I T= meeting, but to send about the Petition privately. Of course deep were not to blame, and ought not to be taunted with that atoms stance. The Honourable Member said, that the adeleizof bop were attached to the Petition. That tensility had been the Lief, but the sheets on which their names were inscribed, bad been kept back ; and be was imitated to say, that some indliridnala had pros cured boys to sign it, in order to injure the authotitp of the Pee titian, and this they were ready to peeve. Under all the eirans• stances, it was still the Pedtion of a large amber of liesuini residing in Manchester. Sr T. LETHBRIDGE wan ><W diet tbsi slower was given by the Right Honourable Gentleman. one wuaid confirm ail the statements. The Petition was no maim Madd est. but of WOO inhabitants of Manchester, and he bop** might be received with the respect it deserved. • Mr. B. WILMA HAM said, thatlhie Hentoo table Friend (Mre Phillips) was rather too fond of attadlies the Magistrates of Sao: cheater, still there were nearly 28,000 permits signing the Perkies t besides the Magistrates. Mr. Pint.t.tra and Mr. Secretary Plum mutually explained. . Lord A PS LEY said, that the Petition from a public meeting wee entitled to more respect than .from any nesaber of private perms& Lord STA N LEY said, it was Dot the custom of the Masted trates of Manchester to mix themselves up with politics, regretted that they bed done so in the present 'mance. Ile Nair understood that it was anything else than the. Petition of the deedgueilibikemeir. Yet were it not for the public meeting subs seisms* beld,ltiumbl have beer passed oilier the Petition atlas town The Nab. briber. teatimmly 10 the SruTtiot feeling Manchester in Weer oldie Catholic Claims. All tbe Petitions were ordered to be printed. • - fs risrrks, a Polak aka Protestant, ind an Cithoge Re. religions dean. tinctima of ar4 1.10 4 111 : -. It 9 0•11 Oa. "ge&erioll of 'Briti7.6 second time : : the Day, for Relief 8.11. , very shortly been said thAt were hostile he had the of knowing ling in fae- Ca.holics. the present le country church ia- Insire distinc ) the great respected, he 4,o,tbe !WWll:far 41e WeTC COON , eci in corn, hi Hoe. ' limber anintogity. to thole of asering froot-tbe vice r°— dUrfiggit tout clouts.; alnd cad that if one of then No P"Gentlemen ehalkers yen v turd to appear there would r eed out of the place. He should cordially vote ( thirdet the Mill. li r . Sir ft- 'P I MPS M - "-by Ob efving, that 'a 7 , change in tbeipirir :if t : 'arch 'of Rome; had bee': contended fo'fbe these o suppofut this measure,: but th it he Aftild ifie - nothing 11:Ilse eel . ..fence given hefosothe. i.. - • - vihich.,warranted the belief that any sue.' ca g •.• .. -- He believed that spirit to be unchanged and unchangeable. The ChuAls' of-Roriatlisabseitzheisersecutor and slava! of all the iv eAt masters of the- human mind, and continued to this day _her spsteut of proscriptrowagainst everything calculated to extend the progress. of: knowledge and reason.. He held in his hand re 14i.0f the books now proscribed in the south of Europe where the Catholic religion still retained its influence. The works of Bacon, which were proscribed in the year 1669, remained so still. This was fifty years after their publication, so that •it must be supposed their existence had not been kenwo for that, period. The Honourable Member then enumerated 'among the,works proscribed in Catholic States—Locke on the Human Understanding, Milton's Parsdise Lost; 'Co pernicus _ (alluding to tie revival of the sentence of Galileo), the Newtonian Philosophy, the Jurists, Grotius and Puffendorff, Fenelon, Pascal, and. others. Could it then be said that the spirit of the Church of Rome had changed. when she continued the persetenion of every great master of the human mind, and when an excellent library might be formed from the) tiooki which she proscribed—(Hear, heat ). He thought it was clear, then, that upon whatever ground this Bill 'Might be supported, it could not stand upon th rt'of a change of spirit in the RoMan Catholic - Church. The late Pope had been called the most Protestant Pope that ever sat in the chair, and he had always pro fessed to be grateful to the English for the restoration of.. the works of art, and for their other services in wresting the Continent from the grasp of its Tyrant. Yet, when he was applied to by the English residents in 'Rorie for leave to perfirm the Protestant worship in a 'chapel of their own, he could not stem the torrent of in tolerance with all his power, but was obliged to refuse them. The English Protestants were allowed to perform worship in one of their own drawing-rooms; but they were not recognised, there was no toleration, they were only allowel to do so by connivance. When the same Pope was a prisoner in the heart of France, in the hands of the then Ruler of that Empire, whose character was . sufficiently well known, the Emperor wished to obtain his assent to certain* regulatiOns of Government, and amongst others, demanded toleration for all religion'. The answer was this :--"He demands" that all worships shall be equal—We reject it as contrary to the Canons, as contrary to the Councils, contrary to the Catholic Religion, contrary to the welfare of States, and - the tranquillity and happiness of the human race." -In re ply to another request for uniting the various worships, it was said—" As well may we attempt to unite Cattier with &hal." All this proved that the spirit of , the Catholic Church was still the same wherever it. was at liberty ; and if they unchained it here, it wduld be to poll down the sacred temple of the C onstitution and to bury themselves beneath its ruins —(Hear). In new Governments and States where this religion obtained the ascendancy, nothing of its old . spirit of into , lerance was abated. In the Cortes of Spain its eit elusive power was recognised. Every Deputy was compelled to swear to maintain the Holy Catholic Apostolic and ,Roman Religion, and to prOhibit every ether. The. same .forms ...were observed in the ne , State of Mexico. The Honourable Member then rea passages from the speeches and writings of Doctor Deyle and Mr.-O'Connell, contrasting them with their 'evidence before the Committee of. the House, and con% waded that the inconsistincyeatietly destroyed the valevi Of.the latter. He believed that the obtaining of the Cathol lie Chalets was not the real object in the hefts of those bil whom such claims were put-forward. In a former invest tigation upon the subject, a Dr. biNevin was asked—i "Do you think the people of Ireland care this pen, or this drop of ink within it, for the Catholic Claims 7' His an swer was a No." Another witness gave similar evidence upon the point. Oliver Band being examined, said that the United Irishmen were associated for the sake of ob. raining Reform, and not Catholic Emancipation. Upon being asked" Did the people care for Reform 7' He replied a No; but those who thought for them did."— So' those who now thought for the people came forward to attain their own objects, and to do it would not hesi tate to raise a storm which they afterwards might be unable to,gnide. If the measure were one of justice he should be ashamed to refuse it upon any ground of ex pediency. . If it could be shewn whim that the power sought by the Catholics was an abstract right, such as all the subjects of the realm were entitled to under par.. ocular statutes, then be neverwould oppose it from any apprehension of the -consequences of concession* Pro tection was the right of all, but power the right of no man. He agreed with his - Honouratee Friend the Mem ber for Cork Castle, that the Constitution was a System of exclusions and securities. . And this exclusion ap peared to him to be the myaiairdWlNt.the protection of she esta blished Protestant hasticutionowt Menhir,. .He saw sothlog to change the opinions which be hadvaluetained In private for the last twenty years, and he should accoolosly vote against the third reading of the DM - 1 . , s .. : , +a "" - i'.: •. si, the - • Mr. HORACE TWISS said, that, a exc ustokfrom Parliament was not of the spirit of the COnstitntion, no , exclthion of less moment could be regarded as such. By : , the Common Law of Englanditall natural=honi subjects were entitled to all the privileges oC.lhe :Constitution. That principle bad been, from : tlie;,ratfesitiof iyOsease, snspended.by the Test Act in usle& 4041•91 - Aarlei;IL But as she necessity had . long %ceased, the law 'should revert to its former universality. All. penaltieS ;bat accompanied that restriction onit orairal right of the snbject.. had long been swept: awaY - r ind the. reitrictiosi itself, as a necessary minsequenessi.onsbt to -share the :same fate. The reasons for the Seslnesion: is the time of Charles 11. had tong ceased' to exist; tire, reason for their continuance at the Revolution, 'Was . to 'l4ore the recent and unsettled sovereignty, of ,the Pri*o and Princess of Orange: ,The makers of the: Statute 'of Charles set forth that the laws against= Popery lied la - led of their desired 'Alreeti, from Poe& recu,letitti having access to Court, and liberty, to sts airrititehs Parliament; and for the sake of.easuiing the I.desire4, effe.t-e,' they were excluded frons - Parliamens as*lll-as the Court. But the laws against Popert‘mbic . h the Test La w was thus iotroducedtolnvigorate, vir4e . ;#oe4 -inure nor less than the body of lepealed penis. awj penalties, the lasteensains of -which were swept veil by the 31st Geo. 111. so that whatitheorighial pre tab tits restriction hasps its , Rlacein the Statute Book e,ting forth as its rsatiogi this repialed code of laws,, t birth eight of .our Catholic • fellow-subjects wets •he horn them now on." falit - preterki. Tne mistake on !hit iubJect arose from Ortfoundifig,'perniatent and' those of tempo, areeipedience... The quesiiint west riot, whether the restrict &_1, 1 14 ilnii*er they testlitftivho by . rascelisity at the ti scibld lcodtinue to '-ttie 6f things. W 4 setter of the law at ease to the spirit die reasoning of those none of the enactment tattiest against the Catholics, ought to pealed. During a period of insurrection in Ireland, the privileges of the Constitution had been impended, but what would . a British Parliament have said - bad the restrictions imposed daring a period of insubordination been continued in a season of tranquillity ?—(Hear, hear, /seat). *Yet precisely such was the reasoning in the present case. When the fact was pointed out, of the Baron'eq, by whose Lords Magna Charta was acquired from King John, the only four now extant as Baronipi are in the tenure of Catholic Peers ; that fact, he appro. hended, was appealed .to by the Noble Member for Aylesbury, less in the way of strict argument, than as matter of feeling. But it did become a question au gument, and of very serious argument too, what im pression of the Constitution you were producing upon your people, if you were thus, to tell one vast body of them, that in their entire case, the Constitution had for ever repealed that great law of nature, and of all civi lised society, which had made the merits of the parent a transmissible inheritance to his children—if yott were thus to tell them, th it while the State expected the ser vices of all het subjects, her Constitution had ant off one of the strongest of all human inducements to serve her. What zeal do you think would have been felt for your liberties by those Howards, and Talbots, and Arundefs, and Cliffords, who won not only your origi nal Charter under John, but its repeated confirmations .and enlargements in subsequent reigns, wh.le a Catho lic Nobleman was yet under no incapacity to labour in the cause of oar common country ?—With what heart would they have risked, as they did, their land and their lives, to lay the first grounaworks of that. Constitution, beneath whose shelter it is your pride to dwell, if they had dreamed that a time was to come, when their pos terity, and the posterity of Catholics like themselves, alone of all the Nobility of these kingdoms, mast be abut out, without an accuser, without eves a surviving stupicion,'from the threshold of its protection and its privilege. With respect to any danger to be feared in Ittlaad on the subject of the forfeited estates, the greater part of those estates was in the hands'of the Catholits. ' The Catholics were not more addicted to persecution than the members of other religions ; and in almost every age persecution had proceeded rather front pealed dm religious motives. There never was a period more favourable isr the proposed comelinew then the present. Ireland was pericadi tranquil, and the Act for suppressing the Catholic Assachasa. as gracious measure. in Ireland, had been submitted to withal* a murmur. He would congratulate the Honourable Baronet, die author of the Bill, on the judgment be bad shorn, and the success that was likely to attend the measure: The voice of the people of England was now heard in favour of the Catholic Calms--(Hear). The Learned Gentleman's speech was loudly cheered. Mr. HART DAVIS said, that the Constitution of this country was essentially Protestant ; the King, too, was Protestant--but could this be long so, if the King was to be mtrounded with Catholic Ministers and Offi cers of State? The Catholics would not be more satis fied after these eonteniens, than they were after the many comes- AIM already made to them. Be bad no confidence in the prates . of the Catholic religion; they would first seek an equality of priand having obtained theirobject, they wraihasien aim at an astendascr, In opposing the third yeading of c ris Bill, be knew thatch* vrasrepresenting the opinions of those_v ~ lsa4 him to Parliament. Mr. C: GRANT.thought that those who opposed , the Bill did .not argue the question With sufficient in ference to the state of Ireland. Some Hon. Gentle men, though they opposed the general measure, would go the length of making some concessions,_ such as giving to Catholic Barristers a silk sown. He did' not understand the advantages of a silk gown, but he thought that such trifling concessions would be no bet ter than a mockery of the just claims of the Catholics of Ireland. He, and the friends of Catholic Enianci pation, argued on the general constitutional principle; but the opposers of it contended that there was .a ne cessity for an exception in respect to the Catholics. But has not this exception been acted upon a long time, and did they, by acting on that exception, succeed in tranquillising Ireland? 'He contended, that the best way to tranquillise the people of that country was by removing the cause of complaint—(Hear, hear). — He illustrated this position by reference to the argu ments. used in that House on the laws relating to smug gling, and to illicit distillation, &c. By. reducing. the duty, the temptation to these evasions was taken away. So it would be with the Catholics, restore them to their rights, and yoU stop their complaints. Did Parliament ever try to remove the causes of, those lawless proceed ings among the people of Ireland? The associations which grew out of the system that was adopted and continued towards them, were now made use of as objec tions against the admission of: the people of that country toile privileges of subjects. It was said that it would be incor.sistent and anomalous to admit either Catholic Ministers or Officers of State about the person of a .Protestant, K'ng, be admitted,this, but it was better than the present anomaly. Mitch had been said about recog nising by this Bill the spiritual authority of the See of Rome in these realms, but this was not the first tune, for it was recognised by the, itattité of Maynooth Col lege, which gave tbe Ca i tirOle visitors the power of prescribing and regulating the discipline oldie College. An objection was taken tad!, Bill ow the grounds of a Member's oath, and it tub Oiked hitw any Member could henceforward ;Wear thatthe Pope had no autho rity in this kingdom?. la whatnots did the Members take the oath now ? Beery Member taking that oath, swore that he hiasself_tfid - not recognise the Pope's .an charity.. Danger wairipinehaided from the wrath of the :Catholics, from their numbers, and from their combination ; but•did not all these dangers exist now in a greater degree? He called•bn those who argued in that way to prove :that greater danger did not exist in rejecting this eneasttte than in.passing it. They seemed tnforget that they were legislating for people of warm . agections and sensitive heists, who were bound more ;hy acts of kindoess.than by coercion. *The continuance * al this system toward* the Citholica was the triutipphant point of attack on England by enlightened men of 'foreign countries. .They, constantly referred to the state . 4a,which Irerand..alialegt by England. 'lt was thins for the Legislature to rescue England front thit stain, if not to avoicrthe danger of the Kenn system*, -it : least .for their mew , glory—(Hear, hear, hear), t4cati'at all events, - emancipate Engtatiallrarn the .ehpkgii which has liiieirpkiest on her. T he pr k tett:Dcri ivere,citatt la support of the 'ne,gn malt, ataltratillita -, He-ttertaculy could riot approve of tl.# .e:tels pubQied Multi tliestgostures K. • a Prelate so distinguished for his talents ns le certainly was, could give way to such re langnaze as *as contained in those letters. ;ish that to the zeal And vehemence of Bas.. 'tabor of those letters adde I the meekness and •of Fenelon. But he begged the House to provocation given to the Catholics, by the thrown out against them, in wri ings and in bath in riludal 2.14 istir•br ukhc and through a part' of the pebkißegrs -The : Catholics were char -d with enter at to oi nieens as teach as any people the world. -He was not surprised' that mais's feelings; noditir4l'klii Wilke imputations, sheuld be fonedner ttre urkiifterong language—Wear, hear). • ItAwier,edaPlidlieilatiliShis t great body Of the Catholics- could-not bethaseetted.AY this measure, and that the, tweet** heilleage 4 •Usk# ;but this Bill admitting the Catholic . Ito anaate . igpt , would hold out a prospect to all, as the degastaveseet exclusion spread itselt amongst the -whole hair& .503 1h: totamque Wass per.acitis , co t b s ,„ Mens sent molens, et now se corpora "beet., , 1 or , Having said so much in reply to the argurnmsoo Op position to-the Bill. be wished to give tsis own tttstsca9nr of what be experienced in Ireland. He halt the time of his taking a seat in that Larose a . enescismtioys conviction-of the justice of admitting the Catholics to their rights. This opinior, he was told, was tauten , in the warmth and enthusiasm of youth ir . ii4lente of the people and a maturer judgment woul d totteit- it. He did,while he was in Ireland, seek all the 'o4*r/fence and all the knowledge that he could ; both .these, in stead of changing hit-opinion, mightitave mellowed it—confirmed it. The GovernMents he thought, and he spoke as an individual, was placed in a delicate situ ation with tespect to the Catholics. There was ao me dium. no channel of habitual instinctive feeling, com municating between . the Government and six millions of Catholics in Ireland. There was no -Such emigres feeling, no chain of connection in Ireland, as Oat: which was in this country. There appeared none of that instinctive sympathy between the ramifications and the centre of society which prevails in this country—there was nothing of that delicate sensibility by which the connection between six millloOs of the . people and the- Head of the State might be traced—which reds is 'each thread sad lives aloes the iirse. The population of belied was a vast mass moving in an orbit of its own, autrpreserting only its dark side to the Government of the cotitftrY: It was not, hosietrer, to use - the wards Of. Bair ke in inert mass , it was one covered With living beings,Lid having discontent lodged and nourishedin its heart by the law itself—( Hear, hear):. The Penal Laws at present were only efficient to punish the Catholics, not to protect the State from danger...-. (Hear). They tore the people from their natural leaders and subjected to the influence ofthe Clergy, that which, if tempered by other feelings, would be whole. some, but in its exclusive operation was perniciotai. The system drove the Catholics to take a rude and wild• justice upon the laws that oppressed them —(Hear).;..,- - How lamentable that a Nation so capable of every: generous and grateful sentiment should, by legal com pulsion, have contrary feelings ingrafted on their nature. In the 'time of the Henrys and Edwards it was said that the MA were not & to 'enjoy the English Constitution, and the assertion had Worked out its own verification. Restrictions Were imposed on the comMerse of Ireland, on the . add other things ; these restrictions bed given way,. and the Only one remaining was this, which it was become for the tranquillity ofthat country, to remove. litany indifcriminate ealuouties were found out against the principles of the Catholici. fte.foond in Irelard, within the pale of the Catholic Church, men of as inkeleiriint opinions as were to be found - in:other religions, but' le alsofound men or opinions so kind, 'so tolerant. and 'sty charitable, as would do honour to any class of ClergY- . men. He could instance among these,the late Archbishop of Cashel, Dr. Everard, who lived in ,tste ',greatest hits Many with the Protestant Archbishoi.“'Ttii • Oithille and Protestant Archbishops lived on tails' 'Ord*: greatest cordiality and friendship. 'They intirficit indifferent to their religious dicitictiorie and' leifieetlie duties, but they united to give 'their flocks : an etaitiple of true Christianity and toleration. It was something more than toleration, fOr they lived in a strict intinitcy in the same town watching their common care's with, a cordiality and charity which be trusted the passing.of the present measure would more generally diffuie.. (Hear, sear). It was not necessary for him to ,grifar back into history for examples of Cadmic litherenceto a Protestant Government. He took the fir.t instance that occurred to him ie the time of Henry IV. when Ins' Catholic subjects rose in arabf for the proteciion his throne against the Duke of Guise, who was hintself-s4 Roman Catholic. The conduct of the Catholics salsifies; occasion *rowed that they were net destitute ofrthat t . chivalrous feeling and devotion to the throne' *ems to be se much questioned in this.' agtie historian who comments on this fact says that the Catholics deemed it a duty to place King Henry oti.the e, though a Protestant, because they believed him to be the person destined by'Peolettince to hold The Honourable Gendenvsn. after`stifi'4eneriffilb'ser rations on the illibetal•notioni held OSysopwripartionlar tenets of Roman Catholics, .proceedesi to seatri lung extract from the works of Thuanus, and conCludid by observing that die Clinrigii of bi itr7, sna ..peysee . ptims lavished so itinerant against that petsbiliinf iresitv"on founded to a great meat. He. was satisfied, if the Ca tholic be platel under good laws, and' in an .equal state of society,' Itt) individual of ally , other' teligtoes persuasion could exceed him •th eriery'serial rind he was convinced . abeire ; all tniugi that It was the duty of his. ruler not to .surroirod hiw whit ,dis abilities and restraintsibut to phiee Mtn on espial terms of civil and relig'ons freedom, witheverrotheroftimber • of the State. as would, not detain the ,House further' to guard himself .frogs , the . probability of 4re.ins... potation, that he, while liberal (*.the emboli% int ia dilEvent to his own religion. The distinetien-war him well defined o , and the value of hisrOtttilcteed itf sr firmly appreciated ; and, if the time and' nor occasion, served, •he could convince arty Hoomutobla . likather 'how fully his mind was impressed apes the -sobject but the result produced by the fall considetatietwof his, ; Man faith, was, hit it was his duty to' itiotbrifft pr that of others. The man who fat most o t trijiigit' the, advantage of his own worship, should be most ready to open the door of. Cbriitian charity and berievo)ence., On the subject or'catlitilic Emancipation hr was- noire confident than ever. He felt sanguine that the measure mast succeed. Circornstances might delay it fkir one or yeah, but itirinal accompthhoneat was-aa hint a cenaipty. 'ilia progresi• •the human mind-00 moral improieruent—orthristian charity, fail to sem* ibr* . the 01014:15; 4..• P 0, - 1 • - - • '15157/ i. 4• t All the Petitions Were ortserms w ... r ....... — Lord STA N L*,Y presented a Redtioo from blanches by 8,600 names in favour of the Catholic Claims. ..., vi . h il tn t. t T he . P P : mil tition ts w ind as oGerdererredlitoGbeAscprieltrited.sa mad. a in ' . ? , .. .i . r i t Sir F. BVII.DATT presented a Petition from a pay county of Tipperary, numerously signed by the Prod Itoman Catholic 'lnhabitants, in tay.our of the Roman Ci lief Hill. The •Petitioners stated that,pereons of all relig minatioas in Ireland desired milmiliotiM, And the tunic ligious feeds.--The Vetition was ordered to be printed,. t Mr. /I EAU lES brousin in tbs.lsl! 70,1klati Rnl. head a first. time, .and ordered. 1e.../1 1 . PloAl• 11 ,0 14 ;1. 11 Ft iday next._ )S i... - ~ i • -- Mr. , 'HENRIES broVen in 11 Ul i k - •• i ' • Vessel... Read a Ors nine, and ordered maul .s n on blooday neat. • ii.r. -. • "• ~ i : : • CAT H6DIC RILLIEF 81.1/4 '.l ..*. t . 1 Mr: CU RWEN Moved the Order of the littlifisird •ri :Oink of , the Roman_ .PltistlPC 4.4 .-..iiiThe klost..hleniber said he should express vet $ his opi .ion upon-the •qiiestion. •it bad been ! I the oraj co ity of the' people of 'this country wet • In the Measuie; but,- lit the efonty is hich he bootnit . torepresent, he . 44'41e:satisfaction of 14i. • 'i that these was a greUt pieponderince of fedi 'tier of r ensng the • tightsof , the' Roman ( ! . f flea iiteended no danger from pinning tit tii.l; bitt, .on the contrary, he bale:set! the would gain increased security,. :Mil tlie . .c . l ! creased strength, by removing the exclosi vi i ' &orient's, in' existence. Knowing , hoW nisch.' . -.: . Body oi'the 'Pic tostant Ciezgy were to be reap souk!, riot help regretting to see• then:l- oppo grantinsrof those indulgences, to -the . Catnip)] visited Ireland-with - many prejudices, which %iv . i ze p .eiel y t enspred by the experience Fe . scipirei • 1- a ntouicating with the people, : :There WA. A . 0.1) . Islotatestesl, on sn•Atinvoishe earth, to whom AI 1 allbcdoas Wore gerenres-thes in the , Irish. The Has "-Iligien describe...A.:change. teem fustiest of anintodt.y. I • bum', and eoncord. ins -town in ireiand, liribing fra ol.ll • nitit hindniss and fotbesrance betweeti the dilftrutit HMO ...- .. . • ', . . as- . • I 1 ' ' \ restrictions were necessary at on gretted that hey continued tu . „be necusiity-stilt? Doctor Doyl imposed the restrictions, ;unified bemence of tinsg4etldainprit have meant the 4le could wi oplinite, (oder. 'a totally. diakeent suet, the and 'e Ih,pod not confine ourselves *to the charity c r of 'the authors of the Revtiotion, consider the of their legislation. Accordin to calumnies th out who. opposed the preinst - , , be cents made at the time of the Revo- meetings, al • •• ■ i~ I ~° ~~. . ,