Star. — London, England, 1818-02-12 00:00:00

vouchers would not thi dg ht have been al to . his morality. The night Hon. Gentleman had stated, that if Ministers could find a moral man become an informer, they would not of course re men of such infamous character as had been deprecated in the course of the debater but it would from the testimony of some Gendernen on the lie, that Ministers had found precisely such a theTerson of Mr. Oliver. such, 'however, the information received and communicated House by his Honourable Friend (Mr. Bennet), statement of that night was of such a nature, was impossible it should not become the sub consideration before a distinct Committee — if the House regarded its own character, and to be regarded by the country as in any de licitous for the cause of morality and freedom. . praise was, in his opinion, due to his Honour- Fytend, for his industry and ihfinite trouble in Ilecting the materials which he had communicated House. But his Honourable Friend was al on the alert in the cause of hurtanity. He was, one of the most humane, useful and honour - ..tempers that had ever adorned the annals cis Parliament. For without ever resorting to any erpe to entrap popularity, his Honourable Friend always active in the cause of benevolence. With spirit of the philanthropic Howard, he entered the dungeon of the prisoner, the cell of the ma and the asylum of the destitute—and sought, every means in his power, to diminish the sum of suffering—(Lord cries of hear, Arar, hear). the interesting statement of his Honourable , he observed, that the Right. Honourable Gentleman had not even, amidst all his gay and eloquence, ventured to, say one word. As to the Learned Gentleman (the Solicitor-General) id, he could not help observing that he had that Learned Gentleman with great pa in.— _isient he had on.e heard that Gentleman in a tourrofJustice, and he certainly esteemed his talents, irn what he had learned from a friend, now Aly no more (Mr. Horner), he was induced to the Learned Gentleman as a man as well as ler. Therefore he heard the Learned Gentle this night rot only with regret. but with sur for, should the Learned Gentleman, who had , made such an extraordinary stride, become ige, what was the country to expect from him had declared that a man was not a competent ; because he was accused; that the testimony ,Fled was not to be relied upon, .because he charged, and imprisoned upon that charge.— was strange doctrine at all times, but what epi i it deserve, proceeding from these very per rho denied to these accused men that trial by they could prove their innocence —(hear, hear.) defied them, either in the annals of Turkey, or of of Old France, pregnant as it was with those msions, which led to the bloody Revolution that -avulse(' the world, to produce any thing more monstrous than this—(hear, hear.) But mark the pith the Gentlemen opposite take between the . this night, and that which was brought before House yesterday. " You must not, said the • Lord (Castlereagh) last night, " listen to the _ against the Law Officers of Scotland, because prOceeds from a polluted source." What was the anion there? It was, that the unfortunate man upbell refused to forswear himself. If you do • that little step which we want s namely, corn act, which was nothing less than perjury, any statement you may mat, must'be discredited, it proceeds from a polluted source—(hear, But there were other witnesses to his Hon. statement besides Mitchell, as he himself the House.--(Cries of " Name, name !")-- candour of his Honourable Friend's nature, about to name, but his cooler judgment ar him, because he knew that some one would lately go to take up some charge of pollution these witnesses also. The House must not from themselves that it was impossible, after statement, to get rid of it without a full inves ion—it must.be set at rest. There was a load of which would be affixed to the highest quarters, it was placed upon the shoulders of the real mal. The Right,Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning) in from his merriment, next appealed to his Friend (Lard Milton) in the most solemn man id, by the bye, feeling it the dullest part of his speech, used the stage trick of giinvely reading -, purporting to be a letter of Lord Fitzwil- Where did he get that letter ? Has he it out of the bag now before the Secret Com ? (No, no, from Mr. Canning.) Then that bag contain the real iuformation—(hear, hear.) — perhaps he has taken it out of the Old Bags— ngh.) The House would bear in mind the time date. It was written in December, ISIS, .sA a .hen !lord Fitzwilliam was impressed with the ve nature of the popular sheafrOctioli and -with the mildness that belonged to his clia. and without reference to any feelings,' it his duty, to communicate, as P rd,Lieute4 of the West Riding of Yorkshire, sisiashis Ma. Ministers. • Upon that letter the Right lion. Leman said the Government acted,' That was re fact, inasmuch as no one step *as taken until mouth of February following; nor, he believed, any have been taken then, hut for the unfor; !pebble that was thrown in the Park—Ortennurs the Ministerial Bessdies.) He had a right to nne so, as the King's Speech to both Houses had, ference to popular disaffection, but characterised whole country as loyally and dutifully attached Majesty's Government. See to what 'lengthsl ?ractice of reading detached letters would lead. were those who differed from Ministers to meet dusions thus drawn with arguments? Suppo , however, it should turn out that subsequent let were written by Lord Fitzwilliam, in which a ige of his former opinion as to the country Ispressed--(hear, hear, hear, from Lord Milton.) ch letters were received, was not the Right Ho. ssourable Gentleman, when he read the one, bound in fairness also to read the other? When he read the previous, ought he not to have communicated the subsequent? It was impossible that he should not know of their existence ; for he presumed his col leagues were at length disposed to trust him— (Laughter, and cries ?pear!) Indeed the Right Ho nourable Gentleman himself felt that he ought to done so, from his endeavours to explain the motives of Lord Fitswilliam's subsequent change. It was easy, said he, to changewhen the danger was over. Here agar the facts contradicted his assertion. It was rat whet the danger was over, but when Mi nisters themselves declared rt to be raging, that Lord Fitzwilliam cummunicistsd his change of opinion. It was at the time that he was sent down to Yorkshire as Lord Lieutenant, to examine into the alleged out , rages on the spot--when Ministers were hurrying the Suspension Bill through Parliainent—that sods a change was expressed--(hear, hear.) Was that sub: sequent letter in the present bag? He could not say, as they took special care to exclude him but this ht begged to tell them, that if it was not in the present bag, the Ministers of the Crown were wilfully de ceiving .the country, and the Report of their Com mittee would be another artifice for delusion.— But the Right Hon. Gentleman affected to feel sore at the insinuation of the Government wishing to take advantage of alarm. He, for his part, believed it was their aim to excite it. It was for this reports founded on mutilated and expartc evidence were pro duced. But, forsooth, what end could it answer— how could it suit the purposes of the Ministers? Poor innocent souls! Of what service could any attempt to divide their opponents be, to a Ministry connected by such long continued ties of unbroken friendship-- of kindred sympathies ?—(hear.}—He did not find fault with this political device of disuniting their' po litical opponents, but he would repeat, alarm was their daily bread, without which their administration would crumble into dust, devoid as it was of any, thing like intrinsic merit. What was all th 6 harry of last year but to CECiLt: alarm. The whole countr , from one extremity to the other, felt the imposi practised upon its fears. It was difficult to get main to declare that they were grossly mistaken, but theye was not a dispassionate man in the country but now . was convinced that their apprehensions were exag gerated. He himself would admit that some dis affection manifested itself, hut it arose from the distress, which had since abated, and principally from the exertions of the agents of the Government. But with regard to the explosions that had taken place, he had the fullest conviction that they were solely chargeable to the moral Mr. Oliver. It was this agent of the Government, who, at the time his employers were ringing the changes on the prefe of prevention to punishment, set prevention at ra g ance, and applied himself solely to explosion and to blood—(hcar, hear, hear).—The very blood of the. man whom Brandreth shot, was chargeable to Oliver —(Hear).—After a variety of powerful observations, Mr. Tierney warned the Ministers not to depend alone on their majorities—the temper and patience of the people would not alwars continue to be outraged—if there were disaffection in the country, such treatment of the people's grievances would recruit their ranki, and mischief; real and dreadful mischief, must in. evitably follow. Such a statement as that of his Honourable Friend could not be lightly disposed of by a mere majority—it must be set at rest, and for that purpose be again brought before the full consi deration of Parliament—(Cries of hear). The Souctroa-Gzszaat and Mr. TIERNEY mu tually explained. Mr.. CANNING, in explanation, denied his haying made such an unfair use of the communications sent by a Noble Earl (Fitzwilliam). The second letter hal e been read, and it was that upon which the debate in the House of Peers had ,turned. _ . . Mr. TIERNEY repeated his former assertion,i the Right Hon. Gentleman had !nude use of the' because it suited his purposes, and kept back the other, which would militate against him. Mr. CANNING maintained, that the insin of the Right Hon. Gentleman was unfair. He had ao wish whatever to withhold any information with which the Noble Lord might have favoured Ministers. He had not done so ; but in making the use he had done of it, he had no intention of excluding any other part from the consideration and weight it deserved. Lord MILTON said, that as the Right Houourble Gentleman (Mr. Canning) had made use of the arl grementurn ad hominenr, or he should rather have said the argument= ad Awn, he hoped he might be in dulged for a few moments in explanation. The Right Honourable Gentleman had not acted fairly in the line he had adopted with respect to the letters of his father. The one he had quoted, and be omitted the other, because it did not suit his purpose. He could inform the House, with respect to the second commu nication, which had been sent. It was not sent to the Committee of Secrecy with the document which had originally accompanied it, and in which the rea sons forhis opinion on the second suspension had been founded. He was a member of the Secret Committek and though he did not wish, and never would dis close any thing there submitted to his consideration, which might be injurious to the public safety, yet he would not withhold that which it alight be ne cessary to mention.—(Loud cries of hear, kmr, hear.) He had in the Committee given uo,tice o a motion for the production of the document to which he hid just alluded, and there seemed no very great lingtxss to produce It. He would, also beg leave)* harm the House, how the people had been dealt with in this Committee. There were laid before It several communications from the Lords Lien of Counties on the state of the country, but no coin .mtinication was sent front the Lord Lieutenant of the West Riding of Yorkshire (Earl Fitzwil)iamV— ker hear.)--How far this was acting fairly,: he woad leave the House to decide—(hear r hear.) ' Lord CASI'LEREAGH said, that the solemnity with which the Noble Lord (Milton) delivered his account of what was passing in the Committee, seemed as if he was very unwilling to disclose any of its secrets. He had, however, on this, as well as on a former occasion, evinced li ttle reluctance to do so. The Noble Lord had mentioned his having given a notice in the Committee for the production of a certain paper, but he should have recollected that he (Lord Castlereagh) had then stated that there could be little difficulty in procuring it, but as it was not in his particular department, time should be given to enquire about it. On the subject of the question before the House he should not think of offering any remarks, as he conceived they would but weaken the eloquent and able arguments which had been used by his Right Hon. Friends itearhim—(hear, hear, heir.) He could not, however, but deprecate such a general inquiry as that which was proposed. When any - ticular charge was brought forward, he tnute 4 he would be prepared to meet it ; and he assured the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr. Tierney) that he never should shriek from any inquiry of the LONDON. THURSDAY, YEUUARY 14, MS. TIM Flap& • MC!? OF 'TWEE ?MI WAY AT TWELVE o'clock : Reduced 801 81—ConstgOil—Zoiss. for Feb.ooo 4 per Cent. 99i —Navy Assraides 106!t India Bonds iiB pr,Rtchequer Bills 18 27 pr. The Paris Papers of Sunday arrived this morning ► but contain nothing of the least interest. Five per Cents. on Saturday 66 f. 7.5 c. It must be gratifying to the friends of humanity to wituess the Abolition of the Slave Trade carrying into effect with as much rapidity as the influence of ou r Government, which at present is not small, can com mand. A Treaty with Portugal for furthering this salutary v.ork, was last night presented to the House of Commons. By this 1 reaty all traffic in Slaves from any part of the Coast of Africa, North of the Equator ; and even on the South of the Line, the subjects of Portugal are restrained from all traffic in Slaves from any part of the Coast, but those territo ries over which the Crown of Portugal claims to have sovereignty. The Treaty contains an article giving reciprocal power to the ships of war of both nations to search such merchant vessels of both, as may be suspected of illicit traffic in Slaves ;—and clauses prescribing the punishment of delinquents, and the means of compensation for wrongous deten- ' tion, &c. Some conversation occurred on the Spanishtreaty. We were happy to he ar all sides of the House agreed on the principles which we have long advocated, that an extension of free commercial intercourse among nations, was the best means for increasing their sources of wealth reciprocally ; that it was now found that the old commercial system, which some years ago guided this country in its trade, net only with foreign nations, but even with Ireland, were utterly, erroneous. In consequence it is now avowed, that these liberal principles will be adopted, and car ried into practice as speedily as the old complicated details can be conveniently got rid of. This is as it ought to be. Rumours of Ministerial changes are again afloat. Lord GRENVILLE, •it is said, will succeed Lord LI VERPOOL, who goes to Rome for his health ; Lord SIDMOUTH to be succeeded by Lord COLCHESTER, but should his health prevent him from taking office, Mr. PatL, it is said, will occupy the Home Depart ment. In the event of Mr. Palm's succession, the office of Secretary in Ireland is to be filled by Mr. BACKiiT. Lord MELVILLIL is to succeed Marquis HASTINGS, who returns from India ; and Marquis Wat.LitsLav to fill Lord MistvtLt.t's place at the Admiralty.—Such are the reports, but they are not entiled to any degree of credit. The only probable fac: -. among them is that which assigns the future Gorernorship of India to Lord NlELvata. Dfttnur-LAm—The Sacred Performances at this House last night afforded an exquisite treat. It con sisted of Selections from HANDEL'S Serenata of Acis and Galatea and HAYDNS Oratorio of the Creation. LYCEUM THEATIIIe.—Mr. WALIER repeated his interesting Exhibition last night to a very numerous and respectable audience, with increased effect T:tx LATE MITADEDS AND RODASZT AT GILDINRICITe•••YetteTdIII7 afternoon the Jury re-assembled at the White Hart, to further in vestigate this most dreadful event—(the murder of Mr. George Bird, and Mary Simmons, his housekeeper.}—Crowds were wait ing round the house, anxious to learn if the murderers were disco vered.—The only material additional evidence brought forward was that of Robert Durant, of Newcross, Deptfortl, by trade a caulker : he deposed, that he was going along the Hotherhithe road . on Sunday morning, about ten o'clock, and overtook a man near the turnpike, whose clothes were nearly covered with mud, and his hands were both bloody; he was eating a piece of plum cake. He noticed that one of the man's lingers was cut. When the man was passing, he observed drops of blood falling from the bottom of his right hand coat pocket on the ground. He looked the man full in the face, and saw that he had a cut over his right eye. He asked him if he had been insulted by any one, or rubbed? and be refused to answer. He again asked him if he liked the cake ? the man replied, " I'm d— hungry." He spoke very faint, and ap peared much exhausted, and spoke with difficulty—he appeared to have an impediment in his speech.--(11t re the Coroner sent an officer to Mr. Bird's house for a piece of Twelfth-cake, fined in the house after the warders.) Witness continued—The piece of cake produced is very like what the man was eating, accept that there was co sugar on the outside as on the piece then produced. The man appeared about 38 years of age. He was a rough looking blade (his own word.; ; he appeared to be a couatrytnan. He walked with the man from the Turnpike to the Windmill; he put various questions to the man, but he held down his head, awl avoided answering except in two or three issuances. lie was dressed in a dark bottle-green coat and corduroy breeches, his hat was glazed, and he wore drab-eoloured rakers : his beard was very black, and his face broad, he should know him if he was ens to see him again. Several persons wen: passing and saw the man. He knows one man (a blacksmith) that saw him and can bring him forward. A woman who met the man told bun that he had been about no good.—At the period of thein vestigation the Coroner received some private information re taxing to the supposed murderers either being apprehended, or likely to be so. The Coroner ordered the roost to be cleared, ald he (during the absence of all, except the Jury and himself ), put it to the Jury whether it vestal be better to return a verdict of wilful murder against some persons unknown, or to adjourn to a future day? The Jury agreed to adjourn - to a future day, haring grounds for supposing that between these and their next rr.eettr4 the perpetrators at the minders would be at custody. COURT OP KING% PEIR' TUB WING V. ArilMt II'Hf:TLEw . It will be recollected, that when 11r.'1 I wo before the Court on Tuesday last, an was preferred against him by Mr. ?arcs nAL, for having written a ehallmge to mourn, thereby endeavouring to provuk ship to a breach of the peace, to which h Guiky, and was ordered to be brought u anent on the last day of Term. 11. is morning, accordingly, be was, s the sitting of the Court, brought up in t of ol.e of the tipstaffs of the King's Be when the ATTORNLI-GZ.NEILAL, who hac entered the Court, rose and addressed thei as follows Mr. Arrow N EY-G EN EIR AL.--" I have, to move for judgment upon Arthur This! Here Mr. Thistlewood read a paper w! h his hand.—lt stated, that when Le wa 'their Lordships, not being aware of tla: Court of Justice, he had ignorantly lilt ttithe indictment preferred against him ; hip since been advised that he there)) hisnself, as he was entitled to be tried t his Country, that Jury inquiring into thi cinurastances of his case, and only f, guilty in the event of their being conri the Ovldente adduced againq him, that That the indictment had charged him w cions intention, and this he positively disc theirefore hoped for the indulgence of the begged that he might nww be permitted his former plea, and be put upon his tria Lord ELL Mr. have you any thing to remark vu this ni defendant ?" Mr. Arroaxer-thr_cenar..—" My Lo be extremely sorry to prevent any indivi fair trial ; but at present I do not feel dis to assent to the defendant's request or to it. I would much rather, under the ci; leave it entirely to the Court. Perhaps, may be beuse for me to say I do consi defendant shall be permitted to wit-h&c plea; if he conceives he has any defenci the charge in the indictment." -Lord EL Lnasonoucn--(After consult Court)—" It is the opinion of the Court consent which the Attorney-General ha! Defendant ought to be permitted to ss former plea, and plead to the indictmcn Mr. Barlow, you may ask the Deleada now pleads:'" Mr. BA. RI.OW—" What do you now indictment which was formerly read to Mr. TH IS TIEWOOD--" Not Guilt." Lord EtLitarsoaotroa—" You will tae for trial at the Sittings of Niii Priv: aft Mr. Tann, zwooD.—.. Will I be a dmi t ; Mr. BARLOW-...“ Yes, certa i n ly:. Lord ELI. ENBOROUGH— g4 You have n to offer now, have you ?" Mr. TalsrLawoon--" No, but I have cation to my friends, and may procure 1 or two." Lord az.zwaeolouott—" Then for the must he remanded." Mr. BAaLow—" As soon as you are pi Ball, you must give due notice, when brought up to the Judges Chambers." The defendant then withdrew in the the tipstaff. CRIMINAL INFORMATION.— Yeterday tier moved for a rule to chew cause wh information should not be filed 'against a named Gwynn, who was Coroner for ti Ike county of Sussex in which the town situated. The Learned Gentleman mad cation on affidavits which disclosed tip facts :—On the 12th of January last, a tleman, the nephew of Mr. Se jeant was riding in the neighbourhood of place called Preston. He was throe horse, and dragged a considerable ws quence of his foot being entangled in t i The injury he received caused his alma death. This happened on the Monday- Thursday succeeding, he was buried. day following, Mr. Gwynn insisted, b) .rity, as Coroner, that the body should .and an Inquest held on it. It was actor Kt' of the grave, and an Inquest sat which it was re-intened. It was f 9. of his authority that the present app made against Mr. Gwynn. It woul rent to the .Court, that, as there c two motives to influence Mr. Gw7ll in this proceeding—either personal pi the sake of the fee, to which, as Corou be entitled. There w..s a case merit books / where a Gentleman of the name who acted as Coroner for Kendal, h in a somewhat similar manner. In t Court ranted the information. In ti stance, it was known, in every part of tl hood, how this unfortunate young mar death. There were no circumstances o concealment that could warrant the co Gwynn. Lord ELLENDOROUGN—a The did matter sufficient to authorise us to Gentleman to purify himself from the bited against him."—Rule granted. MARRIED. On Ttwaday, February loth, at Saint Mar), R,:v. Bryant Harem 'Oil LI Wooßtu Bag, of Elisabeth, youngest daughter of the late haw Oaprirge, Kcrt. LONDON i Icted ird pthllilbefThy Lays 112::e, Tewitis-Dar . ' ........... strong vc • duped to bad state t to becont i i . . Van. to rr depreeao seem fm other sid man in ; was not t. 4 I to the H 4 . whose st that it w 1 jest of c i 1 . that is 4 it desired t re! soli( Great pr ; able frit 1 c•lllectin; to the H . ways on 1 t indeed, able Mei II • Parliamc client to was abut the spirit into the riac, an by every human Against ll'. Friend,' Gentlem I gaudy el I. 1, what the i I had said, heard tl Ily accid 1 Court-of and iron I unhappil li ' esteem e a lawyer mun this • prise ; fc 1 already a Judge, who had . . . witness I of Mitch was char This war thet did sons, wh 'l a 'aich tit Ile defie those of oppressi I .. ) convulse monstroi turn whi case of tl i the flou Noble Id charge a ; 1 it procee pollution 4 I Campbel I not take mit an a other sta • because . wear.}—l ` . riend's aisured In the c he was a ) . msted h immedia against OA drsguise . that sr.at, ti r .•ration- • .4 • guilt, wl • unless it criminal, straying ;table 1' ner, and I whole si a a paper, Ham s. taken it 1 mime ? did not But perl • (a leugA . , of its da • . . time wi I j • . . ' extessiv • • 1 ;.. when,-' ratter, be felt i '\ nant of I 4. 1 jesty's ! Gender not the llllthe mo; would ttinatel • 4 " r 1 frrms li I 1 I . _ assume i i I no refe the wh ' .. . . to his ? • this pr i . . How v concha . . sing, h tell NI change T -, was es i I ' i.I i . It such neural fas previo subseq know league , (Laug It • 1% , noural 1 , 4 have t"r , MOLIVI . 6 . 3 . • ;! • .. c 4 . ..t . a• ' '• kind--Orer, hear, hear.) ate should 4so enter hi go o =a le i.is b t the iembet line w o h f o crdu b ct to ad u adopted b . y the particular statements, which he described as affidavits, and who, after he had read them, and thought they would be, likely to produce effect, withheld the names, by whkh any possible chance of refutation was removed— (hear, 'scar, hear.) He gave credit to the Honour able Member who bronght forward the motion, for the manner in which he bad done so ; but he concei ved that such an inquiry as that he proposed would lead to the most absurd consequences. The House of Commons could not examine upon oath, and were therefore deprived of the power of punishing as they deserved, all those who might be guilty of a breach of truth to them. Mr. FAZAKERLEY shortly replied, and conclud ed by saying, that he trembled for the peace of the country, when it was seen that upon the detection, he would say the proclamation, of such dangerous persons as these Spies, the Government stepped for ward to shield them. The Question was then put, and the House di vided-..-Ayes 53--Noes 111—Majority against the Mqtiosx 58.- L -4kiljoutned at half-past One o TWEVRNING STAR.