Star. — London, England, 1828-02-22 00:00:00

e ot (ur, Herriei)b that Man. Ho* far be may consider that his conduct may affect kis character, his public character I nran ,f course. it„”itnot, fo r . me to - inquirer how fo l as if Min 4,44, 4:lll94,o. l t ie;hbill_stifilt4:.A his iiiiinuations against 1.0 thrmet Calleageres, - t leave hies to form an npinwn, fe•em what has Ocean ed during this' - s h o e debate oa all rides of - the Hotri.,. Inalt •ißsh Id' s et the Right H on. Geolleittin, right 'Upon onepttitit;nl' h e appears to me equallyiocapable of understanding any question which mat be put to him , or of g ivin g an answer which may' be comprehended clearly. The • question I put does not relate to that respecting which 'my Hon,wrable and Learnidtriend (Mr. Brougham) has said that the Right konoerable Gentleman volun teered a gratuitous explanation. That related tb4 Colt.' saltation of persons pot belonging to the GoiernMent. w hich I never did iVii, and 111 had . heird of soch a circumstance I should think 'that this House was not 'the place, and I certainly int:not the person, to put such a question. What I eally did ati.Vtis, whether' 'the Right Hon. Gentleman concurred in the statement }made in the ()the: House, where Lord Goderich said that the Right Hon. Gentleman had at three different periods varied the grounds of his opposition to the ap poiotmentof my Noble Friend (Lord Althorp) as Chair. man of the finance Coltbittee7Lord Goderichdetlaied that the Rt. Hon.dentleman at firit said be beano objec tion to it ; secondly, that the Rt. HOn.GenFobjetladatill the 'ground 'of 'an implied slight t but that ht4* 110116 id hint to have beei ptirrettly iitiafieci 14004014 .ln, 4 that be. (Lod Goderieb) remained, for three weekeens vinced.rf the Right Hon.Gentleanan's pertect satisfaction et what had been done—(ltertr,.heal). - . .1t vets Willis, grounds, and to these only—and site he .v; iftet thete vitae . sieeti, Abe Right Hon. Gentletitett thißeit'lls ii,esiid a , and thohittr clifferentitiVetions 7 -that' e l n askei tor riplinetiOn. lam in the recoil; etion Of the iliiiie; and certain that I shall be born, out in the correctness of what I state--tHial`,' hear). • " ,- " • Mr,' HER RIF'S niticeeded to the ' felloiriint i ff eet.= Tire t/Ohle . t tOrd: stiyi; Wet !.t 'have 'not i linswilift liii qiirisaintip with ; icipect to dilasiog the. e;pressioo of my decided opinion as to' the appototment ctf 'tie Noble Member for Northamptonshire; *obi the . 3d 'of De. amber, when f first heard of that itiretrtlerl'ep yittl: sisetiii t iobt.,the 21 . it.0r PeCettiltY6 itill,ti I I '.wrqtt a Li* sig , the . 1644 . tri . the soble L t ord. .it . .. th e lzea ' 'l the late Government. Sir, t .deny that-'I hive Withheld any explanation on that point. - I bhue - alia.aay'sited a hill and satistactog eiPlan'ation cif" the effuses of the delay in the expressionlof inyolointiott."`,Thellletble,Loitt skis that roifita,the gronad.o( my - pi-014 - cripes; and, Abet in my letter of: th e *lst 04: Decenber„l assumed that as eoinfiteted which, in' fact a 'Waronly in progress. Sir, I had a tight to' c cbictucre, 'frotill'ill the clitemitander which oCcurted,,tliat the'engage l otent, with ! f4. NOltiti Member fbr Porthimptonshite. was tantamount ton completion. The Right Hon. Alember for Muntgratiary; shire etyS i tbe saute *thing.: IsTOite, t A na t ittie it'aniitbb 0 111* 1 ,059) 1 eiiiiiiiOf .:4 1 e gouse. ,that b wt4en rre al . to them tbeletter trsith. on the.;lst - .of December, I' ad dressed dressed to the tSbleLord at the head otitis fiti . jesty's Goverhbletit",.l dittthetlt be , that if,th`at *Melt hi miletter I as' naiad to b the fielt w aif tiiit'ialrati ...n -ewer might have immediately heen sent Art undeceive me. The. 'first 'assumption in my letter was. - that the engagement with the Noble Member for Worthanip tonshire.hadbeen completed; . the_ second,' that it had been so completed in consequence of certain party con siderations; A . stated in my fottner'explenatihaaltiat those assilinptiOns might have been immediately ttlet by a denial. Were they denied?. Was I cold that the engagement was not completed ? Was I told that party considerations had nothing to do with the questirinV— No. 1147, more,, What followed distinctly proved:t : hat at that e .unt.r,,the engagement with the Noble . l 4 cird was considered as complete—t Cries of ti No . ; no)„—I repeat, that it did. It is true, that when I asked if the ,bar- gap had been concluded?. I was . answered ha 'the negative; but when I asked. if the matter was still open to .discussicro,. I was ,answered in the negative a 150..., It was an_ understanding then, of such a nature, that it was no longer open to discussian.L4Heat, hear!) Under these circumstances 1 hada right to assume what I did assume; nor do I see. how it was possible I could have done otherwise. But see What.an improper colour is given by_ the . Noble Lord to my letter I The Noble Lord says, that I determined to state this erroneous as sumption,thae lonight.ground on it the destruction of; the late Government .Was , my letter of a character to justify the Nn . blepolci:s,assert , on ? Was it not en offer, made in' ..the tatiest.and most amicable manner, to with dravi mytelf from, the Government, tf by SO doing - thei, Gheerotnetit - - Woritd 'he tithted . to gd - Oh 3 44 mote GOliti?': f l )td'ti4t' iiiadioq tWt:lrial' lain' *iy, Oak .to overturn' the 10Overnment ? f did not tdeClarethat I! would resign, because thirdiighttaire tauten' eonsidered asi . pettilant 'and' intentltinally intbalatlisig: I " If,"'l oliserved:iii th i - NCidte I:ord to . .tis'hoita ad used say.; OW. 4 `.lf; 4 'POit iil s 'My off i ce iitO.oifieritinits you caul moire satitfactorily execute 'this difficult - measure, you' May command topmost reattfand'Clieerful resignation of it; . *I place it tabd t beg it to Iten,ncleretood as being. done,ih the moat friendlynitumet) entirely at your dis posal.''• I Mk the Noble Lord, I ask the Right Hon.' Member for Monegdmetyshire,' . I • ask linrHonourable M'ember'in the House, if that *hi 'net a'falt course of proceeding? Let men Of' Candour of sill parties read that letter, and then say if it will honestly bear the con,- struction, which has been put open it—if it will honestly bear the interpretation of evincing the spirit of a man whose wish it was to destroy the Government ?—Sir, the utmost that can be said with justice is, that I myself' entertained a• wish to leave theGevernment. is that a great critie ? If a Metibar i(afektbitilnlitiation be so littletenaciinni 'of the honours,. eta emoluments, and patronage, and other advantages of office, that in coast qoenced(the view attic:loe huitselflaket of that, which in his opinion, would be most innducive to the public interne, he wishes to Withdrair fines bitiofficild sitnatitio, is that to be charged upoi him 'is as ?-4S that to be Considered as an unequivocal indicatioi Of . 4 iiiiPs position on his part to overturn the Government? . The , Noble Lord really seems to have forgotten the nature and I thetettiii"ernil Itetei of the tfd Dec. 16 that letter I first skated, in the broadest and most distinct manner, what I conceived to be the existing .state of the tine. "lf, in. such a letter, II mad deiciibei 'a distinct ealte;ntitt lays, „ Such i!mt itidgitieric l ; Oeli OteiMPreisitiduplii,t,tny mind; 'saclt are the grounds . anon which it it itay, latest-. tams (b proceed ;" if be do all this, and if it should aplteer tharttehlft beet wfotsg ie"hlt statement; that' it has , hein' overchargeil, that he t has assumed what lanot the fact..., why, pray, oiie tiottcritetet tight deice/ ' Vat Tie receive nd answer ; if no deniatte 'Made to him, he has: then un4rtestionablyr 440 k in . believe and to mainitio! that what he asserted was ctiriect. ' I defy.any Man of; common understanding 10 draw ahy other conclusion. from such ptelniset • The 'Right' Hon. Menthe+ . for, Idontgokeryshire asks' int, It it was my intention . to: writefny.letter of the OA Ist at Elie kik that 1 war among . , those iitio ingibined the teturit to th'etabloet of the Nobletind at the head of the late uovernment?— lstratiswer is, *2 4 :11,-th - sr - ems:l:tad air intralion to do . ° 4 4 4elifit. ? 1 -.044... 44 I.t . to. bOig4t Pp ,:d6, with respect both to myself and to the Fin ince Corn 'duce. But doei it follow that hi-cause I inten led to do *haters" I might feel it right to do that I jawnsiedyt t iie s ig n ? - I did not resign. • Unduutrtedfy.:l iderityrdeteiresined to do what f•••innsidered it right tit' cid, With reference both to myself and to el. Finance Committee; but why shOuld I assume and anticipate' alias the Noble Lord at' the held of - the Government nosed, on his return to Ace, deny the just claims I had upon him . ? 00 .the cdturarY, I had a right . to be. Hae, when the Noble L or d c a m e ba c k to office, that' lie would' adjust ail matters in . disputeVasid intone others, that in which I was especially' cbncetned.-- f e et it be 'considered, - too, that 'the subject •ia ques ;ion had never been -discussed' bt sureoßeagues in the Cabinet. It was a subject the Tighe oriskong of which had never - been considered, except among the parries whom' I have already mentioned. I think, therefore, Sir, that it will be readily conceded to me liy every impaitial man, that the period of the Noble Lord's return to the Cabinet was not exactlyebat at which it would have been proper on my part to brOach the object in the Cabinet; It would hive been manifestly improper - to do so. It was impossible for me to foresee that the dissolution of the Government would her the consequence; nor - do Ito this hour believe that it want. Oa the 19th of December there was am only no reason why I should mention in the Cabinet the proposed ap. 1 I pointment of the Noble Member for Northaniptonshirt, but itwonla have beeii highly improper in me 'to do sus it Would hidtled'hii•ee hien an indication that I contern. I plated die, • ppiiieithig• of the Government. It was Oui that ItigOnnt, Sir that it never occurred to me to agi tate the'stthjett on the (Malabo in - question. 1 was not caged' upon tolfo - so - ; if weaddllatre been very improper id ilo'sts:'• mulling , .therefore; at the whole qUestron,.l trust fhive;sitidled the House that I was justified in itritarniittfrom• 'Mentioning the subject on the 19tkot .441hilier, laid' that iii itii 'course whiCh I aftetyrards wish to overturn tikibird'iliviii 4 . i . actuated by any • e 'Grivereniait; that that cause had*no tendency to i e'rtnen - the - Gottinnient I - and that it tieutually wis ' ritif the'ruif &Wee livettirrning die •Gbieliseinint--:a fail`di istigTrinii'sisii l ii repeat, that I am perfectly convinced.. -.. • • . .•• Mr. BROqGflAirt..-Bir, after the ' ixtreordinary iptech *hien •vie laic+ kilt heard' frbus ? the Right HO& 1 Ge r nllgtia% /ptemprt. the,House will be inclined to pass to the comideratton of. somas other f abiect e for I am persuaded it must - be perfectly apparent tie mei Holiotirithle dekithiiti present, thitirtsta The 'Bight ftlibiSorSilileGeliffeakie no farthir 'el/Alined& can be (petttreeciiid.. - r ' o iseire the Eight Hon. Gaidernan.that ed.," hot s k Unadvisedly when I talked of his voluna tiettnjf i - abittint Vlamition. What I stated . was, e arid . * fie fe 1 frbniyq le Friend bore me ciaspletelY out iii 'the' statement, that the Right ,Hon. Gentlemen directed bit remarks and his answers with reference, We tOlitnerlirig . thithad ,shed in this HOUse,'hut to whit' llapiger"ett 'in •ektearn newspaper!, farm 'iihic`h"the iribillca.Gentiemancilled and selected such passagei at bi &Ought eutitled'to comment. - • - • • ' " .t.fawerkleitMANDl explained. • • -," 41 s ' .' ' 'Ci 1 4110-JOHN NEWPORT said' he rose; not tb takes:l part' hrtheionyevaiio'n, but merely to state that the only - reas''isif fOr Abe Abse4ce of his Right Hon. Friend the Member for Knaresborough, was severe indhposi• don, which had been Much mere:rut& by hhßight Hdit. Frienreattetiditie ors' the Fine Committee.; ' ' liiiiraiiisrisiltatiair claim): - ' . ' ! .: • - 1 •... . . . - - MALT' DUTY AOlc -' I. • • • . ' Mr;PORTMAN observed,•that us the essaversatiou, appearedliv - huve eleieB, 'be would now revert to the quettion which .he - hid E4i befit its commence ment, andasklf it wailii the, contemplation of • billfaleseylk, Government to:propose any alteration in the Midi' Ditty Act? • - • - • '''• ' .' . ''.'' ' - • ; TheCHANCELLOR of thilLlCHEQUEß,'replltig s tbat'hehif received iet,esentations from a atiMber'sil Malistex‘objvcting to.thelaw aLit. stood, and request.: ing - thar theeexpeditucy of altering or repealing it - might be taken Illy " sirlobs . esnssidetaon. His isnitrier wig, thitiainenett ' ircilitie s sCid! in Alla': Wish, itid that 'Se would' iniesirgate the :subject, and endeavotir. to ascer tain-the value Of their objections. - A Petition on' die l setlieet; f resented47l4 roitrittri, is thett'ordere4 to lie cattle Tab* . e r . I ‘. P 7 ,' ' • .n . •• • • - i' • • - • TenT 'Aril! dti t tritATiott ACT& Pcfithira -praying teethe al •ff thicTeit and Corporation tActsovbra presented •by 'Lind Ramessiox, from the Protestant Dissenters of several place( In von} ire; .by lir. Wass, from Gloucester; by Mr..Dgntoisk from Epropi, ,Tooting, Ehmstop ? cia?hatn, Matt Eallynt Hill; by Mr., Waitaturoo„ , from twenty ells P4 o ;Cil. bY-DirLUTiiialat fro* 6 . l taittOirtikl Me.. laceh irm, oanos, from two p ~. ;by hir. r, Urbane, from usiveriby Ibtr,lamenuarv, from ncoln; by Mr. Dosecescal, ( rest Hut. 44; lii ktr,....—...., cheater ;by Mr. Win Ricg,'from ts_d i fferent plaint by . muNDAT,isii k workalieria aid dues • and the follow's; Petidosia, by Mr. R., Sperris-. l twii from rwp 4 e;t Pslinis twp from Oly,* • Ravisterie,, Cisalfont S. eter. asonershara,' Swaiiborne,, Waimea, 'Great fdities pa, : a ri. ~ crendoiklckfurd, Stoney Stiattied 4 Harreld, lb ► w Bri ; ' tons StOke . toldilltAcii Hilk WISOMb!, W Lint_ _ii!**l i f , r . e _rulT, ord, Great Norwood , North Crawley , Great alfies. Vl,7' f' itani,Yardivy.Hasting si and_Lavendon. * • Sir H. PARRlLl,Lsostponed to Tbursday, • nib, *ja:ii4.:Acs; inotiou for the production O( the Treaty of Limerick, , ....'1 Sir D. pARki ELL priiented a Petition treat ere ROMaila. tbolics of Itathenoley; praying for Einancipation. , , ._ ~, Major , PEEL presented a Petition from . the Maltsteeief OW City and County of Norwich, praying for . die Repeal of Me,. litak Duty Act. The SOLICITOR .GENEE44 moved for certain Retums,4l, . lative'tsi dienumber of Cases before the Cbaneecy 'Ed Vice_ bhp. i cry Cetus , and before the Master if the Roes.—Orderod ioilie t produced. ' . • , .. . DPI ruitxrmoittkigio rgi 5446 Itcaiii. ifiaia * i*l Ecclesiastical Courteorrueuered, to be ors/dared. . , . Colonel DAVIES presented a Petition from die ididtsteri of i :ffmcester, praying for A; alteration in the Laws relining to Idalt., , ..:. .POLLING AX it.aotlON.s. Colonel DAVIES rows-to muse for leave to-bring in; el Bill to regulete the:nrode of taking the Peril - at . Eiee;. dons for Cities afid•Boroughil • Experience had proved! heist nedusiai . kii Irits't6 Make' some afteritinn . 'ln' tile preieni state orthelaii, and nobody questioned the fact that the existing system was pregnant with inconvenience to all ponies. • The object of the Bilk he' tris'igrOutto intibduti Wotild bents extendtbefiellitfii of Voting by. idifirbaiiini the - number of places for inking the poll; and:. 'by limiting the time of polling. -At present every-elect don presented 'a scerieldf - licentiounieseand riot.' Ille. Oki& Wit Ids° 'kik/tate of immeniiispettse i'intt by' . Oe'iliiknation of hiiiiness,. and the inievintitioti Will : L iffaits of trade, the lots was greatly increased. He `ietpated no-opposition, and sttduld at pekent'confine; Wisetfierbh hosier!' icirleatre to tang ill die Bill. : ' 1 ' Mr. ROBlNSON.tritited that 'the abusit Which thtil ' BM . was intended ti remove might be suppressed, burg .in suppressing than; he hoped no abridgment would bd' ?Ode of the- right! 'and privilege! df-Electkini. The 6'i s id' 818 'woad - anted too mit& the tithe of taking: the kit. - • , . , ... ' ' Lord LOWTHER . thought irrisiceinarrrw have w nein:Wet cif 'booths and polling places 0(1%1'0 tOtivdi; . . to' afotd4he a,c9isis to the hustings being blocked up by tho f adverse parties. - He should look with jealousy to the R rogrets of the Bill, as it did-not - afford -intEcient tin* ' to bu r . votes . froin Landon to distant places: " • - ' ':GIB. BATLEY' thought that the 'evils 'of Elections, arose much from, the protracted period of polling. In the • place ,he had the' honour to represent, • fffteeu bun- •,• deed 'persons Voted in rue 44. At Weymouth, where there were only two hundred voters, the Election fasted ten days. He thought six days quite,suffieient for any • „ . W: S' that illeekisting iiCcaitveniences were allowed on all hands; and - hi thought that in the preSiiit'stagtit was unnecessary to go into details. By shortening the period, and lessening the expenses.of Electicifis, the Honse'would "bil enlarging and pot re attaining-the elective fraitichise. Mr. KYLE. had CO objection . to shorten the time of the Elections, brit be thought the multiplying of booths letould be penning . the people up like sheep, and prevent their.havingau oppOrtunity of expressing themselves freely and with effect.. iti.BARINEI thought' it Would be •but fair-to sie the sill before discussing the subject.' Six days were not.silEcient for tte poll. Varieties of booths implied 'an increased number of:Conine! and-Polling Clerks, and a Rental increase of expellees. Mr. MABERLY thought the limey 'objection might We avoided, by letting alldisputed votes be adjourned. 1111,r:Sectetaly PEEL would not object to the Bill, but he thought a' preferable plan would -be, to apply the principle,. by way of experiment, to some large and populous. phi& , where the rights of voting wereexten sive and comp lex. The House would then see what, the effects of limitation would be, The City of Norwich was an example of the efrect of limiting an Election as to time. An experiment,`Ath as he alluded to, would be much better than any eirrisMent 4 priori. . The ATTOENEY-GENERxL thought that in some • place's the Bill - sitatild be ifaeliam beneficial. It would, in'soMe fly s, tend _Wineries; expenses. 145 L said, that the city of Norwich these, t. Z:: were '6OO out. era. of 'which zOO were brought from lAndon, and yet the denim lasted only one day.• - After a tev• words from- Mr. Moiloc and Colonel Davis,, and from Mr. Frain, in szelseaties, the motion was put Ind carried... • • • i;:et ,;!) ;IBILLS AND PROMISSORY MOTZILIK MOAN% ( , • Mr. MOORE moved for leave .to•bring ina Bill ,to repeal the ;aiming laws relating to Bills of Exchange and Pads eery Notes In Iteland. `' - ' 4 '. '- • ' seueetr ISOCIItTIaS. • Mr. COURTENAY gave notice of a motion for leavetabringini Bill to Consolidate and Amend the Laws relating to Filenelli Societies. ' Mr. HUME said, that great anxiety prevailidirperi the subjett anseirgst those Chistei •tharwere interested in setts °Societies. It was thought that the Honourable MeMber'ititeaded re ' tate .'ittidyilie existing pOtiree'sf the Sotietieetd appoint' their otell Tkeisdret and'dthei officers. • •-: ,- . , .. . 1.. ! :.:1.:,... '.l ' Mr. COURTENAY said; it Might beitifficiedt at pre senuto say, that the Bill would not hi any degree greet the •Sotieties already formed, otherwise than they were affected by the Act of 1809; nor would the Bill haterfere .with thegentral tight tif - ippointing olffeetewitojored under the Minter Act. That Act tequiredthe sitiptuttt- Arent of TrnsfeerWho should ribmidate'theTteithrer ; but • so- fat fronts interfering 'With --• the Societies, the Act repealed all former -Attie' tegulating loch Societies. • In Order to avoid the great- evils •expe rienced• from the - miscalettlittionV made by Becietiesi the former Act required that • all such . Societies thcruld - submit theit tables of' benefit, to' -the approval of two approved Justices of the Peace. It was not always easy to determine what Justices were fit-and 'proper for the occasion. It would be rise, provided that the Rates and Tables, when exhibited at the Sessions, should be transmitted by the Cleile of the Peace to the only Government office chit poisiised a professional actuary. , - He alluded to theOlUee cif the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National- Debt: The-Commissioners were.verf willing to undettirke th*lttli t i fors - ihdeetk It war the onlY' thiegtheYSOVrliad to d0....(1* 'latter). ' : Mr. nuME`appreved of -41,it ilia fallen ' from - the Hon. Member, and the-motion was Ostend CllfliClL' • . ' MVO OVIIIII9CIIIki f StrltiAllblre" . ink MACQUEEN Inse4ttissfaietelit natio!, -to bring forward his motion-on the' Subject af ?atoehial Settlements. Mil morienhleis-;‘ That I Select Com mittee be appointed to takeiato considered.," the state 4f the Law with 're:Previte 'Parochial BettleMEnts.". l The Motion was agreftlid.' - - '•' • ?'-' ` ' '.• .' ' 'Upon die nianinition dr& Citainiittee, .• . i -- ---- - : 1 .• ^- • ' Colonel WOOD said; he taught it it would bead , iisabletotive-the -powers of the Committee a wider I range, at there were imewic otiletloints with respect to thePuor Lair's whicit thutt netesiarily forte thentieliree utien'ilteii teniideratiori; ea' Well is upon the 'tonal deration of the House. • In- some parts of the country the rate of wager WaValOVn that • !Tetra SiIItICMIIII , ould with difficulty support himself wititoot -parathfal• id. It was not his intention to trespass further upon e attention of the House on that °coition ; but if it 'should so happen that no other Member took the mat tip-,' he ihatAd'feell't Millet, CO indeed that the Coin ittee sliairld haie power to embrace the more geaeril f r utittionof the PearLawt ••, - - - . "l'he ATTORNEY GENERAL'S name being men &Mid as `one Of the Cdhimittee;the Hen. and Learned" 'Cientlimas.said thithe Was most willing to give every attention in . his- power to the Committee ;• bat if his Sotnination at a Member'of *it was madr'with an- tx-• t fieetation' that he Shotild - attend it regularly, 'be Mott. observe, that his other duties prevented bins-from enter ing into any such pledge. •' eilf ri°M AVQUEENtleclaredhimself.satitead - wids the 'Occasional assist anceof thelion.and Learned Gentleman, liigtiard ille.Committee against technical difficulties. ' z. ROMAN CATHOLIC LANDATAX BILL. ' Its. GEORGE EA NKES'raored . rho Ordae of the Day, for the second reading of the Roman Catholic Land.taa. Bilk. . •, Upon the question being pus from the Male, - -Mra CURTEIS thought it of the utmost importinCe that the House•should give this Bill a little more consi-' deration. The,Bill had been passed hit year in the House of Commons, but it was lost in the other House. Upon that occasion the Chancellor said, “ Where there's a will thereiaithyria exptession the meaning of whi l ch•ba 'did not understand at the time, imt which he since ai de:stood to mean that, although there was a will to pais. 'the' measure in the House of Camases', there was a Way to get rid of it its the' House of-Lords ;' and so it proved. Before the Bill'Passiict heshould like to know, from Ministers, whether it was likely to be productive of serious loss to- the country ? If -the tax, as it at ',resent existed, operated• as a hardship . upon Roman Catholics in particular, he Whs the last man to Wish for its continuance. . Bat if the land-tax gene tally was felt•as a grievance, then the general quer Lion bad better go - before a Committee, untrammel led by this particular case. It had always been aa impression upon his mind, that the Hon. Member: for Corte Castle (Mr. Banker) was rather hostile tea l Roman Catholics; but he supposed that the Honourable Member introduced this motion as a sort of balsam — that he intended by it to pour oil into the wounds of that body. He (Mr. Curteis) disclaimed all hostility Si, the Roman Catholics. It was matter of indifference to him, whether a man came from Rome or from Can terbury ; hot he thought that all men ought to contribute in their fair proportion to the necessities of the State. ' ' Mr. FILER thought the Bill did not afford the re . lief it plealtded i *ad if the law would admit, he would, l not ally relieve the Earl of Shreteslinrj. Aka -Other ca. thnlics from a liibllity to double payment ill Num , . bu erould reloolserkte them for thf.lasses-thep-hod sufered; bet birdmen:this iemunitattia %het •to tie confined to the heir, and not to the smithaser of fen estate. Mr. HERRLES gate his full assent to:the pitineffile bf relieving the Cath6ha from the *butthett of. a double taxation, but he thought it would seem most unjust that a Protestant purehastedfoold•not be 'put on as - good a fbchint as a 'Roman Catholic heir, and yet the Hdn. Metaber , who spoke list kart in fact declared hit %ells 'Ragout° dos°. ' , Par himself hehed•that the principle. Of 'imposing el ifferenbrates of d sty on account of khfferent- greeds of religiosi*as certainly not adiaissiblvia Alto present day. • - - - ~., t.. . .: :4r .:1411. • . ,•:, I' : • The ATTORNEY-GENERAL agreed In the opinion jest stated by,the Right latest Gentlemen, and he only rose to say that it seemed to him the greatest difficulty in meeting thistsbbjetttWoeld be to ascertain who had and:who had not paid•thedooble doty,-as he knew for a fact that from Ktng Withanis 'time to the present day; all the Roman Catholics Ni' not paid according- • to that rate. ...-3.-: .or . ' ' . .- in( i Mr. HURST explained the mode in which . the Com missioners of Land Tax disposed of appeals against the inequality- of the tax in his district. He had no great alarm as to the sum which the revenue would lose by the palling of this measure, for he knew that there was not in the excessive county of Sussex a single Catholic who *mild hive 'occasion to appeal under it ; and. he believed that the same was the case in the next county, Surrey." He was of opinion that public justice required it to be passed, and that the thanks of the country were - • Jue to-the4aw' officers of the' Crown for not meeting-it With any unnecessary opposition. 1 • . • • 11 1 1 . 1: G. BANKES said, that be did' 'not look Opbki this measure ai i boon to the Catholic% bin as an lei Of justice—eye, and of tardy justice too. When the Act was passed, which• made the land tax perpetual, thee inequality with which it pressed. upon the Roman Ca tholicrwas dwelt upon by Mr. Pitt. He used phrase! which showed that he considered it to be owing to the carelessness of Protestants that any inequality existed among them, and said that he. could not allow thatiu. equality Cci.be urged bie a reasba for delaying the pas:it'll; 6f his bilt'which it *is well ',known was' an important financial measure. Not a word further was said at that time , by the Catholics—for at that time there was no Catholic' in the • House to advocate their cause,. He, whirlundidways oppoied. the aimission of Roman Ca tholics info Parliament on national' grotinds, never sup ' posed that it was not sFheirdthilt upon them, that they had not individualt in- the Horne rot adVecat• their rights; and" therefore he agreed svitiv.tite , Attnramy General,. that 'though- it mighi.not be hard.'to-ihre the Protestants 'suffer for their neglect, they wereAboond to show greater indulgence to Roman' Catholits. ' , ln cases, therefore, where Protestants , paid -an equal aw iessment - with Catholics, he did not- pretend' by .this Bill to give any remedy. The law,. however, - pre , tended •to -remedy the injustice 'which had been in , flitted on Roman Cetholics, end did. not ;. and ,all libat he now-proposed to do was, to assist. the. law in its operation. The English Roman Catholics had not been passive under the present injasticeof the law, bes.bad sought redress for it by every legal means in ;heir power. Lord Shrewsbury, who had six -different estates in six different'eountrei, paid on them all, trial obtexception. precisely • the same sum as was first charged upon them fifty years agn. He got rid of the doable Charge upon an estate which he had in Oxfordshire, by an appeal to the Commissioners under the Act of '1791 , ; ' But even that was attended with great diffictiltyi . He had to applt to- the Court if - King's Bench for i mandamus to compel the Commissioners to hearhis appeal. He had to take Counsel-down to the country to. try bit cause, and at last, in the ye or 1799 ; he got 101. or 1101. taken off a land tax of 9601. '• &oppose' that the Noble Lord was rifest in the cdurie which he had then adopted he had paid in-hit five other estates upwards of 6001. a year , -in land-tax more • than he ought ;—a payment which be was told could be traced back for 60 years, by mini- Menti in his Lordship's, keeping. He hoped that he shbild. be 'al& to 'Montt by this Bill, not only the lands Of Catholics'- butalsothoie purchased by Protestants, and which were hitherto liable to double assessulents.•-- With a generosity which did them the highest honour, the Catholics of England were desirous, in the event of the measure passing, that the eiemption should be made aniiersal; He rru'sted' that in Committee he - should 1 2 eteivi therasiiitanee of the-Lisv °Seers of the CO4 wit tb remove 'whatever legal difficulties Might arise. • The MASTER of the MINT accorded in the prin- Ciple of the ;treasure, which would be open to any Changes in the Committee , aad . particelarly th at part of it which at present incl uded such of the Protestants as had (Come into the poisessien of Catholic property, and' which was therefore liable to double astessmeuto. The Committee might think it proper tot soparatt those two portions, and of course he should•atquiesce in its decision. rbe question was then put ; and the Bill haring been read a Second time, the Committee upon it was fixed for Monday, March 3. SALMON VISHISISS. 'Mr. FERGUSON moved; that the Bill for the Regd. latiorr IA the Salmon Fisheries be recommitted, for the purpoie of filling up she blanks. • - It was recommitted accordingly; and the Amend ments having been made, the Report was brought op, and it was ordered to be taken into consideratida on Friday fortnight. The Bill, as amended, was ordered to• be printed. 00 Leitlee. Mr. WARBURTON gave notice, that on the 27th instant, he would move for Copies of all Acts of Legis lative Assemblies and of Orders in Council issued by Go'verniuesit for the Regulation of the Colonies. Adjourned St Si QUARTER•PAST NINE. BUSINESS IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS—THIS DAY. The Earl of Kintore e. Fore& Appeal to be further heard. ParliCullocb v. Mackenzie. Appeal to be beard. Sla M. Menzies v. the Earl of Breadalbine. Appeal to be heard. &radian sr. Paton. Appeal case and judgment to be considered. Rosbeck's Divorce 13i11—to be read a second dine r and several witnesses ordered to attefid to be examined at dietbilte—• Lords ordered to be specially summoned thereon. _ se. la HOUSE OF COMMONS—Tan Dor. 01/DICRII or Thia DAY. Liverpool and Manebester Railway Bin—to be read a eseoad time. Supply—Committee thereon. Cambridge Roads Bill—to be read a second time. Kipping' Cross Road Bill—second reading. Bolton and Leigh Railway Bill—to be read a snood dates Ways and Means—Committee thereon. Wadhurst and Hounsenden Roads Bill—to be read a second time. Watts Cross and Penlitirst Reads BM—becond reading. Beaumads Roads Bill—amend rea di ng . Comm Ql Lawr—adiounted debate thereat axed fir to-day; to be . 1 101 99 0 ed tin Ttleadri. • . wows OP atossose. Sir, Hues Haesenia- - Ft; etovein the Coseniktee of Supply, a Vatean theOednance itatimates for Six Idontbs,na account. Lord Paussartost—To move also In the said Committee of Sup ply. a vote, on account, for Si: Montht, ftkr the Army Estimates. .Dr. Pniumeone—Te move for sundry Rac e 4c. repudivi othig Colirts a Inland. )a as 111 e. to