Star. — London, England, 1815-03-09 00:00:00

the peace ot tit e metropolis. .There Would be much ir e re reason for the charge of cowardice if the Hong were t , give. way , in every stage of the tneastire v. .1 e ,bre. nenings of a riotous and outrageous mob- - :L o d and reiterated cheering.) Having said. these 0e words. hr Must now h g leave to refute some of b e c harges which the Hon. Gentleman had chosen ~, ;brow out against his Majeity's Minister' s :l Ht • accuse d thet a of sacrificing their opinionZa for popularity. How far they had either. obtained popularity by the measure at* lie sr enough, from the language and conet „ peo ple, whose passions, he would contend, had , fr a rtificially excited and inflamed by what they Al heard against the measure, without understand ,, i:s tendency or nature. If he had changed hit and preferred the prolabition to the duty, he ha d a n opportunity of stating his reasons for the Zerences :woe tie did tint think it necessary to foi e: the example of the 54nn. Gentleman, by repeat-1 t h e same speech flee or s:e times over. (Loud ; , ; iin g , and fries el hear, heAr.). H e h a d never insi :Lilted any thing but respect for those petitioners who .‘lsent up their parchments to the House ; nor had e thought proper even to direr from th e i r conclu ans. But he would not be deterred from cansider their reasonings as fallacious, and he would say • those worthy Magistrates of London, who were so 'form in their opinions on the subject, that it would eonle them to set open again the doors of their z yptian Hall to the tens of thousands who had F eed the petition, and say to them-44 Y ou k m , • induced to, approach Parliament on the autho : :t of our statements,but we now find them to be un ;:ded, and let us, therefore, either get better infor :tion, or not petition Parliament at all." It was that people did not see that by the protec .:4 price a preference WAS given to our own agricul :re' over that of foreigners. He wished to see a )oral system of intercourse and commerce with mice, but not to place our confidence so much in %ince as to make our subsistence depend upon her, - upon any other country, when we might most re .;ile it. He hoped and believed that the peace be. teen the two countries, would be one of real amity al long continuance ; but nothing was so likely to :canon an unsteadiness of price, in corn, as a depen • nice upon foreign supply, which we should not be tie to command. . It was very improbable, that the op would fail at one time in every part of the king. NU ; but it under the pressdre of extraordinary cit.. anaances a foreign supply was required, it would song:it for, and he hoped we should find it. For : security sof a steady supply of corn this country as happily situated ; it would always be a station the import and deposit of corn, as well from the oatinent as from America ; and the grain coming to tic a foreign market it would be applied to our use !,en it might be wanted ; it would be drawn out of a warehouses long before the price should rise to e height of the prohibition, and thus we should al • iys find a supply till other arrangements were effec .:. It was an evil hour when, about forty years we departed from that system under which this :.ntry had always !ound plenty ; and he hoped, at we should now return to that system, the advan ges of which had been so evident and so consider e. No v no, front several ) Oir JAMES SHAW complained of the stigma :ich the sight Hun. Gentlemen bad earn ea the lgistrates of the City. 1 heir statements had not' en made Loosely, but on the authority of persons act- acquainted with the Corn Trade than the ma :74y of those who sat in that House. He would ?eat that these statements had. been completely me out, and he much feared that if the Bat passed e result would confirm his opinion. Sir JOHN NEWPORT repeated many of his 'guments in favour of the claims of Ireland. He ;soled that Ireland was greatly undertexed, as had !en asserted; but, on the contrary, that she had 'en taxed, in proportion to her ability, as much as is couno y. Mr. STUART WORTI.EY spoke is favour of e price t,f Bos. which did nut appear, in his mind, .osithstanding all the d‘clainations lie had heard. Aeulated to raise the price of bread to an extrava • its degree beyond the relative.price of all other at. •les. 1-1: : was 41%0 convinced ;h stthe result of th. • :11 wou,d he to reslui.e rents in general. The eel-- 1: a id' •ct wow d he a reduction in the price . of corn, • al C..use a reduction in the price 54 rents. He was ' lli ng to vtde for B:is. in ord: r to give a re-nunerat re rice to tile twiner. it WAS not necessary to nit ; for i; !tad 1), ea arrted on all sides of the • aiuse that saint the, g was necessary to be done for t relief of aeti:ulture y.t the Petitions are not ►,aitist any alterations in the price. but against all :teration whatever. He &so 765. would prove 2 fair remunerating price; but the protect ng pric. s , Guid be something higher. Mr. WILLIAM SMI l'H defended the consluc , his Honourable Friend (Mr. Baring,) and added, at he wished the reception of the Report to be istponed till after Easter, because he did not wish see. the House pledged against the common 'anti tnt of the Public. He thought the Petitions ought have due weight with the House, and he should think so highly of the House as he was iticlined l t' do, if they did not give them proper attention. A division then took place en Mr. Benttro's t.mendment. For it 57—Against it 206 -Majority for the ins . idiate reception of the Report 149. The SPEAKER then stated, that the House had "w to agree to the 1' the particular amendments adopted Committee. The first question v. ould be, that House do agree to the amendment whirls fixed ie price 80s. All persons who were in favour of a ' 'wet prohibitory price would of course negative this • kousition. Another division ensued, when there appearedr the price of 80s. 186—Against it 78—Majo ...y 1 06 . While stra ngers were exc l u d e d, a di scuss i on arose 4 the r eso l utions f or f i xing the i mportat i on pr i ce o f )di, Barley, &c. These were finally passed mithout division. The Gallery having been re-opened -1 CHANCELLOR of the LICHEeR '`'red that the Bill should be read a third on. '"lay next, and then engrossed. Mr. BARING objected to so early a day being need for the third :reading. He thought no-iM, 1-, oath measure bad ever been so indecently buried ' rou gh the House. The whole country• was now in . , ',the progress o f ei p ress l ng iu sense of the meant* ? I Ind time ougltt to he given to receive the Petitions which lifer, nnw piwpariOg to be presented to that& • tie m ved as an amendment, that the third reading hhould he fired for. Friday fortnight.—(4 laagh, and ' el Cry of ' s Good Friday.")—The Hon. Gentleman corrected himselt, and named Friday se'nnight. Sir GILBERT HEATHCOTE supported the Amendment. The House then divided, when the numbers were,l For Mr. Baring's Amendment 46—Against it 220., Majority in Avow of the third reading being Hied Friday, 174. RIOTS. When strangers were re-admitted; Mi. wEsTE K if, cheered by the whole House, was strongly insisting on the propriety of calling out the military, when the civil power was not sufficiently strung to repress the multitude out of doors, who wished to infhence the proceedings of that House by their vin?ence. Lord CAS'I'LERBAGH thought what the Ho- nourable Gentleman had just uttered must be in unison with the feelings of every man in that House, and with those of every man out of it who knew how to value the British Constitution, and the blessings which he enjoyed in this free and happy country— (Hear, hear, hear.)—lf the Legislators of Great Britain might not debate on those measures which to them it should appear demanded their consideration, without being threatened in their persons and injured in their property, the liberties of Englishmen were gone—( Hear, hear). And if the persons concerned in the tumults out of doors thought their Representatives in Parliament so lost to themselves, and forgetful of their duty to the community, as to seller these dis graceful riots to have any influence on their conduct —(Hear, hear.)—lf they thought their outrages would incline them to the smallest relaxation —( Hear) —they little knew what those who sat in that House felt they owed to their own character, and to the in- terests of those who sent them there—Wear, hear, hear )—He hoped by their conduct that night, they would teach the ignorant and infatuated persons (for such he trusted they were) with whom these disor ders originated, that they knew their duty; and were not to be deterred from performing it by clamour nor by outrage. He, however, desired that that which had occurred should not be exaggerated. Some houses had certainly been attacked, and this, in a city so large as London, might be easily effected by a few wicked men, proceeding from one place to an. other, bin it was right to state, the metropolis gene ;ally had not been thrown into a state of clamour or Idisaffection. The Police had not been negligent, but no Police could prevent such attacks from being made in different parts of the town under circum stances like the present. It would be false mercy not to take the most effectual means to check such out rages ; the Honourable Gentleman might be assured the Executive felt this to be their duty ; but a desire to forbear as long as possible from proceeding to ex tremities, was, he was certain, that line of conduct which would best secure the confidence of that House.—(Hear, hear.) The Executive would firmly stand by the Legislature, and make every exertion the emergency of the case might demand to protect them, and with them the liberties of the People. Mr. WHITBREAD said, no one coul d dissent from:he Honourable Gentleman and the Noble Lord with respect to the disdain they had expressed fur the attempts made out of doors to influence their delibe rations. If they had any effect, it was directly con. trary to that intended to be produced. He knew it had caused some, nay many Members, to vote for the Bill, who had not before made up their minds to do so. He differed from the Noble Laid with re spect to the Police; and, from the examinations which bad taken place on Monday evening, he did not. scruple to say, that those to whom the care of the Metropolis was confided, had not done their duty.— He had wished the House to come to a specific vote on the conduct of the High Bailiff of Westminster, but this suggestion was overruled. He wished some ine connected with the office of the Secretary of State. for the Home Department, would inform, what mea sures of precaution had, in the first iostance, been ...ken; what measures of prevention subsequently adopted ; and what was the situation in which the Metropolis now stood. He did not wish to exagge• rate the facts, but when. it was known that the mob had renewed their attack on the house of one Right Honourable Gentleman at noon-day, he thought he had a right to state, the present situation of things was disgraceful to the P.‘lice of the country. Mr. H. ADDINGTON was proceeding to state what flow measures were, when he was called to urder, there being no question before the House. Mr, YONiONBY agreed in sentiment with the Noble Lord, that lenity should be exercised—for no thing so much attracted popular attention as the dis play of it ; he therefore trusted that the people would, of themselves, prove that this lenity was not inef fectual. Mr. WHITBREAD thought that the necessity of calling out a military force was caused by the neglect ,of the Civil Power, and would, on some future day, require a detail of the measures adopted. No person admired theexercise of lenity more than he did, but he thought an excess of it too frequently terminated in unnecessary severity. Mr. YORKE said, that the Police were very de..' fective, and that, unless some means were adopted for protecting the Members of Parliament, in the dip charge of their duty, it would be necessary for them to meet in some other plane. Alderman ATIUNS suggested the propriety of promptly proposing a Bill for constituting an efficient force of Magistrates and Constables in the different parishes. Mr. HUSKISSON. I4 Sir, after what we have heard this night, I hope we shall not again be toll that no foundation for alarm exists, except in the con sciousness of having given provocation—(Hear, hear.) I do believe that much of the danger which three tens this metropolis arose from the manner in wbssh this question has 'been treated by its opponents.+ (Hear, hear, hear.) -1 think I have heard, in thb House, motives imputed to Members, which, if the people out of doors - believed them to exist, were cal culated to produce the most mischievous results. (Hear, hear.) -4 can conceive no other reason for Frolonging this debate, night after night, exhausted as the stibjecttas been, except for the purpose of making °beer vations such as I have just described." The SPEAKSILA—A I matt call to the myna .• . . . m tist of the FtVg.Tfon. Gentlean, and of the Rouses that eevefal Orders of the Day still remain to be sfis posed ef." • Mr. DARING.—" I claim the attention of the House fbr a very few minutes. After the unpro. waked attack made by the Right Hon. Gentleman who has just sat down, it would surely be unfair to let the conversation drop hers."—(Cries " 24,41 Ay* " Chair! .") Mr. W. Frl - ZGER.A,LD.—" I rise to order. My Might ties,. Friend having been interrupted by the Plait, I . do not conceive that the Right of animad irersion remains with the Hon. Gentleman..(Orderl irder 1) -.If my Honourable Friend be allowed to I proceed, I am sure, in that case, i should be the last person *ho would attempt to prevent the Honour able Gentleman from offering any thing he may think proper in reply."_( Cries e Order I order I") Mr. TIERNEY—" If the Right Honourable Gentleman be not allowed to proceed with his ob servations, it will be extremely hard on the indivi. dual thus precluded from reply. I think the Right Honourable Gentleman onght to be permitted to finish what he has to say, that my Honourable Friend may have an opportunity of answering. It would be unfelt to let such au implication remain unnoticed. If this Right Honourable Gentleman has more to advance against my Right Hon. Friend, or any other Member, he should be allowed to state it. I beg and implore of him to finish 'the charge, and let the Members alluded to justify themselves in the face of the' finse.s'.—(litar, &sr). Mr.'W. FITZGERALD •••• 44 t certainly did con ceive, that my Right Honourable Friend was called to order, when he was proceeding with his speech. No man was more anxious than I was, that the Ho- nnurable Member should have an opportunity of re plying. Bit Ido think, Sir, when you interrupted my Right Honourable Friend, that it would be con trary to the usual equity of our proceedings, to per mit observations to be made on an unfinished speech" chair.) The SPEAKER—" It appears to me, that the House, in consequence of recent occurrences, had gone into the investigation of matters of importance; and, in alluding to them, the Right Hon. Gentleman had gone a little farther than the limits of the in quiry demanded. In consequence, I felt it my duty to interrupt him, by referring to the orders not yet disposed of. If the Right Hon. Gentleman is de sirous of finishing his observations, it rests with the House to permit him to do so— (Hear, hear,)—and the Honourable Gentleman would then have an op portunity of stating what he deemed proper in an swer. After this interference, the more convenient mode would perhaps be, to allow . the Right Hon. Gentleman to finish, on reflection, any thing which occurred to him. lam sure, his own reflection will point out to him what is most proper to be Addressed to the House."—(Hear.) Mr. HUSIUSSON.g. I did, and do think, Sir, that any such sentiment, even from a Member of this House, as that • there was no foundation for alarm, except what was produced by the consciousness of having given provocation to the people,' was of a nature which it became me to animadvert on as I have done. I also observed, as I think I had a right to do, that the line of argument pursued by some of those who opposed the measure, imputed to the ma- Witt of this House, motives the Moist mean and unworthy — objects , the niost base and dishonourable. (Near, hear.) —I, erefore, called on Gentlemen to fay aside such insinuations—to discuss the measure solely on its merits (which Was always the sound , parliamentary course) —and to abstain from ascrib ing to individuals, principles which they unequivo cally disavowed, and objects which they explicitly disclaimed."—( Hear, hear.) Mr.BARING.“ Permit me, Sir, to tell the Right Honourable Gentleman, that I have discharged my duty in this House, as conscientiously, and much in concurrence with the dictates of my judgment, as he or any other Right Honourable Gentleman who now' hears me; and, therefore, when he or his friends speak of persons insulting the Members of that House, and committing every species el atrocity, and I afterwards see him get up, and by implication attribute those excesses to any thing said by me, I feel it doe to myself end to the House, to repel the ins:nuation.—(l-har. hear). —I deny that any thing I have said could have such an effect—l did nothing more than make a fair and honest statement of my sentiments. When the Right Honourable Gentleman and his friends tell us, that we are not to be awed by popular clamour of any description, was this to be applied only to the supporters of the Bill ? Am I, and others, to be awed from declaring our op;nions, because a Rabble are at the doors of the House, and the Magistrates have not done their duty to disperse them ?—(Hear, hear.) I say, in my opi nion, there was no danger—(Hear, hear.) I think there was none—none that ought to have precipitated the passing of the Corn Bill—none to prevent this House from proceeding in its regular and dignified course on the subject--( Hear, hear.) That was all that I said or maintained—( Cries of No, No.) . After all the facts which have been stated to the House— after all the narrations of riot.and disturbance—there was not, in my mind, any one circumstance that ought to have induced the House to recede a single in. froth its ordinary course. The Right Hon. Gen tleman has, in a manner, charged me with imputing improper motives to those who have supported the Bill. If, Sir, this were the case, he ought to have stopped one at the moment when I offended against the Or ders of the House. I must now say, Sir, that no thing shall deter mes this night, and on every other opportunity, till the last moment that this measure is before us, from discussing its merits, and offering, in conformity with the regulations of the House, such arguments and observations as I may think fit." —(Lord sheers.) The conversation here . and the House proceeded to the other orde rs of day. Lord PALMERSTON brought up the Ripeirt the Mutiny /1111. Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY proposed a clause to prevent Courts Martial from sentencing offenders to more than 100 lashes. After some observations from Mr. Mammas Sur. TON, Mr. WanaatAD, and Mr. W. WIND% Sir S. RoMILLY agreed to withdraw the clause, until a fu ture period. The Report wu then agreed to, and the Bill or dered to be reatt,be.thirsi tiszetulpiettow. The House adjourned at half-past ono o'clock. RIOTS, AT THE HOUSES OP Tiff LiVtD• CHANCELLOR AND MR. RUBI.VSJN. Bow..vrater.--Yesterday Jake Parrots and Homy Wale:, who were found in the parlour 4i f ine Lor t Chancellor's h use; on Monday night, were put to the bar. Serjeant Burt, of the third Chards, deposeJ, that he was in the Museum Garden, when he heard the cries of Lord and Lady Eldon for assistance; and, in consesuence, he, with a party of his men, en. :ered at the rear of the house, and found the dm: and windows broken, and a mob shouting in front of the house. He and his men dispersed the mob, except the prisoners, who, reluslng to mrve, were forced into the house at the point of the bayonet, where they were detained till the arrival of a Police Officer, who took them into custody. Parrott stated hi mself; to be a stone-sawyer—that he left his work in Golden-square, about sir in the even. 1 ian l frien th d atm with his wh ay hom o w mhe ho ha e d to d S drank more Town rethao he b met e w as accustomed to do, which induced him to answer the serjeant rather rudely, being at the s one tine con scious he had done nothing amiss. His master gave him an excellent character.—Wales, an infirm old man, said, he cleans shoes, &e. in the vicinity of Bedford-square; that he bad nothing to do with the mob ; that he had slipped off the kirb, and being lame had difficulty in getting up, which was the c iuse of his not removing when told by the military. The Magistrates finding that they had no! been seen acting in conjunction with the mob, ordered them to be dis charged, J. Bislowe, a genteel young man, was charged with being active in the mob before Mr. Robinson's house on Tuesday night. D. Heron, a Constable, stated that he saw the prisoner throw a stone and a brick at the house, which split the wiudJw-shittter. lie then, with assistance, took him into custody, after considerable resistance from the mob. Atonic that time fire arms were discharged from the house, by persons stationed therein fur its protection, hut not by the military. E. Popham, an (Azar of Union hall, confirmed the above testimony, and added, that he firmly believed the intention of the mob was to destroy the house. He also stated, that there was no military in or about the house. He was the first who seized the prisoner. The prisoner totally denied having thrown any thing. He was remanded. MARLBOROUGH-STREET.— , -a person apprehended as being in the mob at Lord Bathurst's, Lord King's, and Lord Harewood's, on Tuesday night, was brought to this Office, in custody of an Officer, who deposed to his being engaged in the mob : his hands were muddy, as if employed in breaking the windows of the different houses. When called upon to give an account of himself, he said that he had belonged to the Navy, but had been since servant to an apothecary, and was out of place. He said he had been to Compton -street, and had fallen down and dirtied his hands. He was commired for trial. QUEEN4QUARE.—Yesterday C. Farrel. was charged with inciting a tumult. Several Officers deposed, that in Palace-yard 1:e conjured the mechanics to rise for wages, and as the Petitions against the Corn Bill had no avail, to be firm and redress their own wrongs. Amongst other things, he said, 64 Do nurse of you remember Hampden, Russell, Sydney; and do you not remember Oliver Cromwell, who so glo• [piously dissolved* the P4rii.itiiiitt 1 We had Patriots in those times, why should we not have them now ? Patriots ! where all ye All?" And. ff They have taken off the Property -tax, only to liy on one t h a t will scourge the poor man still worse. Rise !" &.z. It was impossible for the OtEcets to interfere with him there. Atter the meeting he adjourned to the Park, mounted a tree, and again spcke in a The Officers then succeeded in taking iiiin into cus tody, although great efforts were made to promote a rescue. The prisoner, whose language and counte nance are prepossessing, is nut 20 years of age. H e said he was educated at a boarding•school, but after. wards apprenticed to a harness-maker, owing to fa. mily mistortnoes. He was now poor, and had not bad work for fourteen weeks, but he was entitled to money when he carve of age—he nev:i sp. , ke oh Oliver Cromwell, and certainly never wished to see such a man amongst us. tie owned he had Jane wrong, • but the mob forced him into the Park, and would make him speak again. Mr. Fiea.oiNa; Low-toed that such a young wan should have so acted, but h. must be committed. W. Wyman, who is also a working man out of em ploy, was charged with endeas outing to protiote a rescue, and was remanded. CORONNR'S INQUEST.—Yesterday an Inquest was held before ANTHONY G ELL, Esq. at the Red Lion, in Portland -street, Poland -street, upon the body of Ed ward Vyse, a midshipman, who met his death on Tuesday night, in Burlington-street, Piccadilly, in consequence of some shots having been discharged from the house of Mr. Robinson. The liry having been sworn, repaired to the St. James's W• where they took a view of the body, atter which they returned to the Red Lion, where the following evi ' deuce was giv.a : John Power deposed, that he is employed at Ibbet son's Hotel. On Tuesday night he was at the tor. nor of Burlington and Clifforsi.streets. There were then about forty persons present, and all were peace able and quiet. Witness saw the deceased walk along the street, previous to which he heard a dis charge of fire-arms (at least three). The deceased was upon Mr. Robinson's side of the way ;*vlien he came opposite Mr. Robinson's house, he saw a flash from the window, which was followed by a report, and the deceased fell. Witness lifted him up, when he appeared quite dead. Assisted by others, he car ried the deceased to the house of Mr. Kerrison, air port, in New Burlington -street, who it:commended the body to be taken to the workhouse. He did not know the deceased, but said he was walking quietly by. There was no riot at the time : a brick or stone had been previously thrown, which witness heard strike against the wag or window of Mr. Robiusou's house. There were very few persons near the deceased.— Here the witness was asked by a Juror, whether, at the actual moment when the shot was fired, there was any riot or molestation offered to any individual ,in the street, or any outrage committing upon the house of Mr. Robinson t Witness replied—MA tit! least. Robert Masters Kerrison deposed, that he is a sur geon, residing in New Burlington-street. At ten o'clock ow Tuesday evening the deeeaseil was brought • tb his house. Upon examining the body, be dis-