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1 te rms of the Resolution, he would not object to the f i , r „, of the proceedings. But, again, if he yielded to t he atuhnril of precedents in this case, it was on the ex nre ,, coNi;tion he had stated. lie s ,•!brion was then put and carried. and Sir FRANCIS 117 R . DErr appuinteJ to proceed to the Lords, and to require the cunterice. VORRIGN AFFAIRS. car R . WILSON gave notice that on Monday next be should cz u the attention of the [louse to the State of our Foreign Relations. NAVY EATINI ATEA. p e CIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER yaid,that in m oving that the Speaket leave the Chair, he should ;tothat it was his intention to move the Estimates o l e year through the House, before they received the Ro , o ir of the Finance Committee, to which those Esti 11A been referred. It had been thought that the c om mittee would have been able to finish their Report, , 0 that the Estimates may have been founded upon than, and yet carrried through the House before that r od of the Session at which it would be hopeless to sect a full attendance of Members to such a subject. s,hiectf, however, had been offered to the Committee viiicti had required their mature consideration, and ebicli consequently had delayed the Report, and he had the consent of the Committee to the course he now emposed ' Lord ALTHORP said, that the Chairman of the Committee not being in the House, he rose to say that the C o mmittee concur red in the Estimates being brought ! A ward before their Report was made to the House.— ile could not take a more favourable opportunity Orin the present to bring forward one subject of the greatest i m portance to the Navy. He alluded to the impress meld of seamen. On this subject 'he differred in opinion with many of those with whom he concurred on most ether topics of a public nature. In his opinion it would be impossible to maintain the naval superiority of the country, it would be utterly impossible to man the ti,et as quickly as necessary, without a power of pro curing the compulsory services of the seamen. Many in ogi, however, might be done to mitigate the evils of i belstem. But for impressment, it would be impos ,iole at the commencement of a war to man a f ee t with adequate rapidity, and the commerce of the cycn:ry might suffer serious inconvenience. He did not ii.Or how the subject might rest in America, but there ' sat no naval power of Europe that did not possess ore such power of availing itself of the compulsory labour irf its seamen. There certainly were evils of ri m magnitude attached to the system, and amongst tb•sesere, first, that seamen, when not afloat, were bhliged to conceal themselves for protection, and pos aned little more of liberty than criminals; and se condly, that men on board ships of war were obliged lobe debarred the privilege of going on shore, in order in prevent their desertion. These evils might be very comiderably removed. He should advise that where a %Aar haJ voluntarily served a certain time on board a min -1 way, he should be protected for life from the impress. This would have the effect of inducing men to enter the King's service. Were this plan adopted. he felt quite sure that the superior comforts of ships of war stnuid induce seamen in many cites to prefer them to merchant vessels. The pressgangs would thus be sholished. He had merely mentioned this subject, in the hope that it would attract the attention of those who me officially connected with the Navy. Sir G. COCKBURN said he acquiesced in the senti - the Noble Lord, and hoped that no reasonable would be omitted to procure as much as possible ry services of seamen, and' consequently to do with the impress. The country could not safely up the power of impressment; but the Govern : the responsibility upon them, to show the ne 7 of it whenever they resorted to the practice.— had been done to'cleesease the impress, and per iod), by granting the Mimeo pensions for services, they forfeited sf 644 , Cleserted: The plan of the . Lord would he inimacticable, from the difficulty ascertaining that the man who possessed the certifi service was the Man who had actually served. cruel to seize upon merchant seamen, who were ing to their homes after a long voyage, and send seem board men-of-war, where they were frequently lepton foreign stations for six or seven years. The of seizing upon them also was attended with they were beaten and dragged along if they resistance. ~ YORKE said he should be the first to raise his in favour of .any effectual remedy proposed for „ law of impressment. MABERLY said, it Must bt recollected that in course of last year Mr. Canning promised that the whole of the Estimates should be submitted to the . Committee belpie they were prepared for the adopuon of this House. The Finance Committee had a good deal of evidence, which should be stated to the House before any vote was now called for. It should also be remembered, Opt the Committee could only 'their reports as to the period when we were in a of peace; but then circunistaoces might occur nich would demand tin increase of our forces. Before ' tote was called for, the Government should state there was any probability of war, or whether the o of the Estimate s c ou ld b e d ea lt with as if we have a continuance of she state of peace. CALCRAFT expressed the pleasure he felt at 6 what fell from the Noble Lord on the subject the impressment of seamen. But it was clear that bad the right of impressruent.: whFn the, of the State required it. just on the same .• that it called out the militia in a time of war. twat service was much more popular with seamen -rY respect, becauie all their wants and comforts attended to than formerly ; and If we were to ear, the Royal Navy would be better manned than . 431 1) former p er i o d. H e was not surpr i se d t h a t, a f te r 14 1 4 5 e of thre e m ont h s , t h ey were o bli ge d to b e ca ll e d :Porto vote these estimates, without any report from Stance Committee, because he was fully persuaded ,ttle mode of i nqu i r y w hi c h t h at C o mmitt e e a dopted "'ld not possibly allow of any such investigation ' the present Session. He objected to Honourable 'is who belonged to that Committee, making the information they had derived as such, because who did not belong to it would be placed at a dis sage. lie had no objection to the estimates, if Rae upon the same scale as those presented to the -for the first half of the year. sr H. PAItNELL said, that as the discretion and igenceof the Finance Committee had been ques ' was anxious to say a few words in their win- He thought the House would agree with there had been no want of diligence, when be them, that during the six weeks preceding the Recess, during which there were 36 sitting days, , ittee held 34 sittings ; that during the whole since their appoiiittisent they held 47 sittings ; that xamineci,B witnesses; that they had ordered than 337 accounts ; and that the evidence printed .s Moment extended to 2,000 folio sheets. Then to the di scret i on with which t h ey h a d procee d e d, 11 41 acted upon the principle of making no Report House. without being in per:s*o of every rbinr, oold be soled t o . th em mil O F important'l subjects coming u ider their investigation. Immediately upon their meeting, the Estimates of the three great bran:hes of expenditure, the Army, NAvy, and Ord nance, were laid before'them ; and supposing they might be able to report upon one branch alter the Recess, they restricted their inquiries to the Ordnance. However, ' it was no , • found that the investigation necessary went into such a length as to render it impossible for .them end the inquiry in time for that purpose: He had no doubt that the course adopted by the Commit s tee was the most discreet one, and such a one as would receive the approbation of the House. • Sir M. W. RIDLEY said, he was glad that,the public. were not to be led to expect an early and alnelna ture Report from the Committee. He was haiiPy th*t an. thing had occurred to Maw forth an admission that the Government were proposed to look at thelreat evil of im ptessment, with a view to some muditicaiion nr removal. Sir J. NEWPORT said, he was extremely desirous that the public should be informed of the .manner in which the Finance Committee had pet-ft - timed the duties assigned to them by the House. The sittings h.ed been as frequent as was stated by his Hon. Friend, and at the meetings of the Committee there were hardly ever law than twenty Members present, a thing scarcely beard of in Committees. They were generally assembled within five minutes after twelve o'clock, and sat until four—the period at which the House met. He would therefore, put it to the Hon. Member for Wareham. tO say, how it was possible for a Committee to discharge its duties with more diligence than they had attempted to do. If the object in appointing the Committee.wis to ascertain the extent of retrenchment and reform, of which the public establishments were susceptible; he was sure the House would deem it advisable that the various subjects should be fully examined, and every information obtained, before any conclusions were coma to, rather than to have an earlier, but a necessarily im perfect Report. Mr. CALCRAFT said, that so far from his anticipa tions being contradicted by what had fallen from the members of the Finance Committee, he now de.paired of ever seeing a termination to their labours. Mr. HUME said, that the result of the course adopted by the House in the appointment of the CoMmittee proved the correctness of his views, when he recom mended that several Committees should be appointed, each basing the investigation of some partictilar de partment assigned to it. He could assure the Honout able Member for Wareham, that in discussing these estimates, he would bli:solte as likely to possess infor mation as if he'had bet Won the Committee; for the course pursued of elitlitnitig none but official men, who always leaned to the state of things which they had been used to, instead of calliqg before them persons of a different eescription, rendered it impossible that they should get at the real mate of the establishment*, and what it was possible to dispense with. Not that Le meant to accuse any individual connected with the Gw• vet nment, of withholding or throwing obstacles in the way of information. On the contrary, they had bees most anxious that the fullest inquiry should be made, and that every facility should be given to it. • The House would now only have to regret having poit;: ported the Estimates at all; for they sere just . as able to dispose of them now as when they were first' laid upon the table at the beginning of the Session.— For all that he bad seen in the Committee, not one reduction in the estimates of this department would be recommended. It rested with the Government to decide, after all, whether the. recommendation of the Committee should be carried into effect or not i and it was therefore for them to make the reductions which the exigencies of the country required at once. As far as the investigations of the Cominittre had gone at present, he had seen nothing which proved that (if, we continued at peace) any establishments were required beyond those of 1793. He did not charge the Govern.' ment with any desire to stifle inquiry, for they had shown the greatest willingness to promote it; but if the Committee proceeded as they wete now doing, he was convinced that the country would be greatly disap pointed at the result of its labours. RITZ TEM LORDS. Sir F. BURDETT.here entered, and informed the Spurn that be had attended the House of Lords to request a conference with that House, and that their Lordships would send au answer by Messengers of their own. A Message from the Lords then announced that their Lordships bad- agreed to the conference, as requested by that House in their Message of that day, and that their Lordships bad appointed the same to take place on Monday nest at half past five o cluck, in the Painted Chamber. The Lords Messengers having retired, the Debate en going into Committee on the Navy Estimates was resumed. Mr. V. FITZGERALD observed, the Honourable - Member for Montrose had stated that it was impos sible for'the Finance Committee to diminish the amount of the estimates, and added, that the right of determining that point rested with his Majesty's Government. Now he (Mr. V. Fitzgerald) must say, the decision upon this subject rested neither with the Finance Committee nor midi his Majesty's Government, but with Parliament. There was no wish on the part of the Government to throw any difficulty in the way of inquiry, or to prevent the examination of any person able to give information. The Honourable Member for Aberdeen bad stated hie main principle to be, that the Naval Service required no more men now than was required in 1792. Now, without considering that the Naval powers of other countries bad grown up, and assumed an important aspect, be would merely leave the House to consider whether the principles of the Honourable Member were just or not. He believed that the best course the Fi-• canceComrnittee could bare taken was to recommend , this grant to be received by the House,withoat making any report, which at present they were not prepared to make. Mr. WILMOT-HORTON observed, that the Hon. Member for Aberdeen had informed the House, that the House and the country would be disappointed, as to the statement to be hereafter made by the Finance Committee. If there were any disappointment, it would be the fault of the Honourable Member, and those Honourable Gentlemen by whom his views were sup ported, for they bad often held out to the country ideas that the expenses of the establishment of the country Could be curtailed to the extent of between seven and eight millions. If, therefore, the public were disap pointed, itAionkrbe in consequence of such representa tions. kJ DC Wilmot,.Horton) would say, the House and the country must certainly be dissappointed, l if St were instituted :that vie could keep faith with the public credit and jehsioner, and yet effect a saving Oihetween seven and 'eight millions. There could not be a shadow of the foadatiott tot such a supposition, and he entered his 'Patin igiiust it. He considered it would be unworthy of tie House to take the partial case of a particular year, and upon that partlkl Cate to reduce Our establishment. The Hon. Member for Aberdeen !lad asserted, that the Finance Committee had yet only l'aciked Into some matter, without acting upon any.— Now, certainly, it might be said of the Ordnance De partment, that it had been picked as clean as possible. The Nuance Committee had abeeadi dotte much g 004,1 and it was not just to speak of it as being unworthy the conftdecce of the country. Mr. BARING dilf,rcd very materially both from the 110,1001 able tiember for Aberdeen and the H, , nour.ible Nlenoer • pp .si:e (Mr.Hor ton), the first of whom wished to mike appear to the House that little good was to he espected trim the labours of the Finance Committee. 0.1 the contrary,, he considered that much good would be. done by it ; and that, although it had not yet sug gested any reduction in-our naval force, it had already tifected considerable and important saving. Whether' this assertion was borne out would be seen hereafter. Bat the House must not think that the Committee had been for several days looking into those mat ters, yet had done no good by their labours. He thought the country would derive considerable benefit from their appointment. This Committee was one of the few Committees of. Finance that had been formed on fair principles —one of the few which was not hampered by some partizan of Government, who upon all ques tions whipped up with some counter-proposition, and carried it by his majority. The Committee was per fectly fair--every question was fairly put, and fairly answered." If the Hon. Member for Aberdeen had had the appointment of 'that Committee, he (Mr. Baring) thought its Members wete just those he would have selected. '' Mr. WILMOT- HORTON, in explanation, observed, tlfat'he only referred to a contemplated saving of seven or 8,000,0004 out of 14,000,0001.—a reduction which was utterly impracticable. '',CoIoneIDAVIES thought that considerable saving in the public expenditure might be effected by the Finance Committee, although he considered that the saving of seven or eight millions, or anything like that sum, was totally out of the question. He hoped the evidence taken before the Finance Committee was to be printed. Mr. WOOD said, the statements which he understood had been laid before the Committee as to past and pre sent years, and years that were to come, was of a very gloomy character. By that statement it appeared the country was getting deeper and deeper into debt and difficulty All those statements and anticipations, it must be remembered, were formed under the idea that the country was to remain at peace; but what would the consequences be if a war were to arise? what pro vision was to be made against such a calamity—a cala mity which was not probably far distant? He thought that such statements had been laid before the Finance Committee as ought to induce them to oppose demands like the present; and he would ask if the House could consider itself as acting justly towards the people, whose representatives they were, if they voted any Estimates which were. not really and of necessity required? ' Mr. WILMOT-HORTON explained, that he had said the country was bound to keep up those establish mems its which it was pledged, but not one word upon' the subject of Financial Inquiry before the Committee. Lord HOWICK thought the House might feel dis. appointed ; for when these estimates . were granted for six months, it was under the understanding, and in the expectation, that at the end of that time satisfaction would be afforded as to the necessity for their con tinuance. Ile considered that the House had placed too much dependence on the Finance Committee, and that the Houle and the country had been mistaken as to tlie exact province of that Committee. He differed from tlie Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. W. Horton) who had stated, that whether. he had the means or not, our establishments should be kept up; he thought we should first have the means, and then maintain our establishments. - Mr. HERMES , differed completely from the view taken by the Noble Lord, and thought not one farthing cf Revenue ought to 'exist, unless required for the pub lic service. The Constitutional course invariably pur sued by the House of Commons was this—to consider, first, what was necessary to the honour and dignity of the country, and then to determine how and what sum should be raised. - It was not to be expected that per fect harmony should exist in the Finance Committve; but in that Committee he had seen the strongest deter mination manifested to obtain every means on all sub jects, of coming to a conclusion the best for, and the most satisfactory to the country. He was, therefore, surprised to hear that Committee attacked as it had been by the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, and to hear bin call-upon the House to throw aside its confidence in that Committee. If the Honourable Member for Aberdeen had been dissatisfied, he ought to have pointed out at additional information could have been ob taine f'and what additional evidence could have been I collected. The Honourable Member for Preston (Mr. Wood) had made a somewhat garbled statement of cer tain facts that had been laid before'the Committee. He (Mr. Herries) protested against their being taken as ac curate, and would show their incorrectness when the proper opportunity occurred. Mr. MABERLY said that his lion. Friend (Mr. Wcod) had alluded to a docUment that was erroneous. Mr. WOOD explained. The Right Hon. Gentleman had ap plied Whim the expres►ion of " garbled statement." He was incapable of garbling any statement. • • Mr. HERItIES did not intend to use the word " garbled" in any unpleastust manner. He merely adopted it as a word to express his idea that the statement was erroneous. Mr. M. FITZGERALD said, that it was not the practice of that House to consider the • means of the country before they voted supplies. It was for the Crown to determine this in the first instance, and the Commons to vote the supply in the other. Did the House, if the country were insulted, inquire it there was money enough in the Exchequer to defray the ex penses attendant upon a war? The lion. Member wits glad a Committee had been appointed, but he thought that too much had been put upon them. He was greatly pleased that he did not belong to that Committee, because he thought that the public would be greatly disappointed ip the result of their labours. It would be. better, perhaps, that the Committee should be 'dissolved, and the inquiet instituted in that House. Questions had been brought forward before the Committee, which be thought should nct have been brought before them. He thought it was originally in tended that the Committee was to inquire into the re venue of the country ; , but be understood that the question of our colonial policy, our foreign policy, the fortifica tion of our foreign possessions, &c. were discussed by the Committee. The Honourable Member would just as soon refer these matters to • 4 my Uncle Toby, or Corporal Trim," as the Fiisance Committee. Their labours should have been confined to pounds, shillings, and peace, and show to the country that there had been no improvident waste of the public money. The prin cipal object which had hitherto occupied the Finance Commipee, was the Ordnance Department. Now, he had understood that the Noble individual now at the head of the Government had previously reduced every thing which could be reduced in that department ; but, he (Mr. M. Fitzgerald) thought, as , this was an inquiry of science, it was beyond the • reach of the Committee, and that the public service might in consequence suffer from it. On the whOle, as the subject had been com mitted to the Committee, it was better that they should leave it where it tret,•and not partially speak of it In that House. 141',PALMEAs ape Member of the Committee, said, that the questions of Poreign and Colonial Polity wefe not c 'nsideredby the Committee—pnestion, questidn} Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said that this Com mittee ought n , t to supersede the functions of trm House, and that it was their duty io compel his Mai jesty's Ministers to come down with a distinct proposi tion to relieve the exigencies of the country before they corvented to the Supply. The House then resolved itself Into a Committee. Sir G. CLERIC; in rising to propose the Navy Esti mates, obsei'ved, that one-half of the 'Estimates had been al►eady voted, in the expectati:in that the . Com mittee of Finance would make its Report before that ss hole would be required. As it now seemed to be agreed that the Report would not be made during,the preent Session, it became his duty to move for the re mainder of the estimates, which were taken At as low a . rate as the circumstances of the' country would admit. The number of seamen required was 30,000, inclusive of marines ; and he thought no person who attended to the subject could wish for any reduction of that amount. It W 45 true the country was at peace; but on looking to our connexions in every part of the.world, on consideting the naval force that was necessary to protect our commerce in •arious parts, and especially in the Levant and in the West Indies, the Committee would see'that the estimate was not over-rated. The Hon. Member for Montrose had stated that there was no occasion for a greater number of men now than in 17.9, the present being a period of profound peace. But though we were at peace, it was evident that our relations with other countries required the addition that was proposed, and he, as well 41 the Hon. Alderman, seemed to forget the extent to which piracy was carried on in this W.t.et Indies, and the complaints which had been made against the Government fur not taking measures to petit down. It was also to be remembered that the state of affairs in the east of Europe, and on the southern continent of America, required such a:force to be kept up. But though it was the intention of Government to keep up a force of 30,000 men, the estimates were 130,0001. less than those of last year. That fact was sufficient to show. ' that the utmost attention' had been paid to practical economy, and he was confident that the most rigid economy would be . observed in all 'cases by those to whom the disposal of . these funds was entrusted. The principal reduction consisted of 130,0001. which was saved principally out of the wages of artificer:employed in the dockyards, and the sums expended in the pur chase of stores. The savings from those sources amounted to 150,0001. but the addition made to the Marine Corps reduced the sum to what he had stated before. It was also to be observed, that a large portion of the expense attached to the TranspOrt Service arose from the increased number of convicts sent to New South Wales. The extensive new works at present carrying on was another source of expense, though as small a sum as possible was taken for that purpose. Tire ex pense under this head was chiefly incurred by keeping walls in repair, and other works liable to great injury from neglect. He would now conclude with moving the Resolution, and the Committee would bear in mind that as the former estimate was taken on the calcula. non of six lunar months, the pr - eient was taken at seven lunar months, to make the year complete. - The Hon. Baronet then moved a Resolution proposing' a lane of 30,000 seamen; influding 9,000 marines, for the - seriiees of the present year. Sur H. PARNELL did not see any objection to the vote proposed under. the present circumstances of the country ; but if it was intended as a permanent peace establishment, he thought it was taken by much too high. That, however, *as not the occasion for entering into the reasons upon -which he grounded his opinion, fr.r it would open the whole question to discussion.— There was a part of the service to which even now he thought reduction might be applied. The Coalmine° had considered the expediency of keeping up the coast blockade, and had examined evidence upon the subject. The result of their inquiry, in his mind for one, was an opinion that it might be dispensed with. lie would. therefore move as an amendment, that inttead of a vote for 30,000 men, the Committee should come to a vote for 28,000. As to the reduction which appeared in the Estimates for the present year, it would be no great saving to the public, for there was evidence to show that it could not be continued. It arose principally from savings made in the purchase of stores which most be made up afterwards, so that it was not a bona ,fide re duction. With regard to the transport service, some increase io the expenditure might be necessary, but he had a great objection to the manner in which it was at present conducted. The practice was, when additional ships were required, to take them into the establishment, which was attended with greater expense than if they • were merely hired for the occasion. For these reasons, he shrruld conclude by moving as an amendment, that the vote be limited to 28,000 men. Sir J. YORKE said, that after the various observa tions that had been made respecting the Finance Com mittee before the Speaker had left the Chair, it was not his intention to offer any thing on that subject; he should merely confine himself to the proposition of the Chaie man of that Committee to reduce the rote under con sideration by 2,000 men, a redaction which he should oppose. He was convinced that . .if occasion should arise we ought to have the means of- fitting out' two or thee* line of battle ships, in order to give weight to any repre 7 sentations we might deem it necessary to make. The Finance Committee might have done its duty, and done it well—but it was his opinion, that Government had concurred in its appointment not so much from any expectation of servite to the country from it, as to answer some other purpose. It was on the subject of our shipping, however, that he intended to trouble the Committee with a few observations ; and he should in the first instance stare, that it appeared to him a most sin gular and extraordinary fact, that two or three experi mental squadrons had been built, fitted out, and em ployed : and that the command of the different vesstis had been confided to the very officers under whose direc tions they had been constructed, each of whom, in fact, jockied his own horse—(A laugh). It was extraordinary, that no report of the results had been made by thole officers; he hoped, therefore, that the Lord High Ad • - iniral would give directions to have that omission sup- - plied. Another question to which he should apply him- . self, respected the manner in which the employment of Officers was conducted. The first paragraph of the Order of Coupcil of the 18th of July, 1827, signed with the revered name of " J. W. Croker"—(A laugh) stated that Captains should be deemed eligible to promotion if they should have served in that capa• city for a period of four years in time of war —of five years in time of war and peace altogether— or , of six years in time of peace. It appeared to him ex traordinary and objectionable, therefore, that the merits and character of the whole Of the Captains of the Navy should be decided on by the Council of the Lord High Admiral. Now, there were eight hun dred Captains on the list, and fifty ships only in com mission—so that the Committee would see, that a gr ea t number of years ,must elapse before those Officers could qualify for promotion. (The Hon. and Gallant bee here rektrecito the case of us Oth&eri . a Capitals ...now. • p c CI-IAM i n m oving the pre m ise that i ()title year thi 1/ 40 1t e the r oes hJd bee c o mmittee WI 0 that the 7 the and ye rr iosi of the es , ect a full ; s l tsjects, host trisich had r which conseq ba.l the conse reo posed. t oe d ALT Committee ric t h e Committee ! A ward befor lie could not the present to i m portance to Meld of seam with many of oiler topics c; be impossible country, it t.let as quick curing the co hOWei t he system. !isle at the kit with ode cventry mirth Iwo how th, was no naval oat such pc lsbour of its gre4llDagniti tb:•se ace, fi btiliged to col seised little ▪ wildly, that to be debarre in prevent the comislerab!y • sake had To war, impress. Th to enter the • be felt quite war stooid it • to merchant aholisliesi. I • the hope that • vete officiall Sir G. CO meats of the efforts won's • rolantary se re any with ti • re up the t had the • chitty of it Much had be • ticalirly by which they f se. be Noble Lord be 0. ascenainil • icce of sere It was cruel it tinning to be them on boas forei bode of sei to *why, as t 1 es attempted re Sir J. YO; in. vette in far the present 1 a Mr. MAI 3 oil the course of whet of th ea- Finance Con girs adoption of I 2 4 a good des' lime before erg also be rem" ;he wake their re ad ire Male of peal nich wOlkk ra- / 4 1 cute wa ca- Whether then ava abject of th pp. lee to have ,Mr. CAL eking wha N 111 4 impre om *Crow n ; kl,, tilitertees of leaciple th; The naval a lino ) rest nd *emote a la ear, ti te• re, toy for m ed al' lvse of th 'Pori w o e, , L ti ` e France at the m o , % %Id not Of - j;.'_ 'PA the i ari 'webers, l 'egi the in s,,er▪ theie who d by t ads ktage. s • , 11 1 were hi pie.; ""''..se for tl oir •- , the r 11a dilig enc the 1411 , be t s eication. 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