Star. — London, England, 1828-06-21 00:00:00

stead of having ever 'been with the_ army, was the Rector, of oy.. of (he wealthiest parishes of London (St. Geotiees), and Dean or Carlisle. This he ,7o+ eeivetl to he a monstrous plurality. • • Lord PA I.M Er.s . rox begged to say that the situation was nn sinecure, as the Chaplain General was responsible for the appbinr- Talent of all the Army Chaplains, who were neither appointed by the Commander-in-Ctief nor Secretary at War, but on the reecommets datinn of the Chaplain General to the Archbishops of Canterbury or York. The Artily Chaplains were now few In number, the dirty being done by the Parochial Clergy in this country and the Colonies, in consequence of which the Chaplain General was obliged to keep up an extensive correspondence, in order to ascertain the proper discharge of those duties; and lie could assure the House, that whatever were the professional avocations of the Chaplain General, they did not interfere with his military duties. Mr. II U could not conceive it possible fur any man to dis charge his duty towards a populous parish, as well as those multi farious avocations attributed to the Chaplain General by the Noble Lord. . He would, however, ask Hon. Gentlemen who complained of thi small pittance of X 2.00 or E3OO a year given to a Field Officer after perhaps years of bard service, how they could support this ? There were also other expenses, such as an agent, olfice rent, •&e. connected with it, that would amount to the value of a good Jiiihopric. The lion. Gentleman then adverted to the distribution 'or lliblea to the army, whick were sold by them, as they were too . bewy to carry . ; and was sure, that if the accounts disposed of for 'this purpose were looked into, it would he seen that they were large 'enough to give every man two or three Bibles. Aiter a few words from I 6 - d PALMERSTON, the vote was agreed In.—The sum of 195,5001. was then voted for the Compassionate List, Royal Bounty, and Pensions to Officers for wounds. Oil the question that 55,1801. 19s. lid. be granted for allowances byway of compensation, superannuations, and retired allowances to persons formerly belonging to the service, Mr. HUME said that he saw a charge amongst them lor a peri sion to Mr. Lushington, the Governor of Madras, whose name he bad not been before aware was on the list, and he wished to know whether that Gentleman was to have his 10,0001. as Governor of Madras, and also this pension? He (Mr. Hume) was aware that there was another Gentleman who had been also a clerk in a public efLee, and who for several years received a pension of 4571. a year, although he now received 5,0001. or 6,0001. a year as a Governor of a Colony. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said tbat he was not aware at that moment of the exact circumstances of the case ; but that he would inquire into them, in order that be might be able to answer the Honourable Gentleman's question, the vote was' agreed to. _ _ _ On the vote that £33,000 be granted for Exchequer Fees on the suing for the army service, Mr. BERN AL observed, that there was some complexity in this mode of managing business, although perhaps there was ulti timely no loss to the public. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that there were private interests concerned, which rendered dealing with the subject dificult, but admitted that the present mode was both 2110. malous and inconvenient. He, however, said that the subject should have his best consideration. _ _ Mr. HERR LES observed, that the whole subject was under the consttieratton of the Committee above stairs, and that there was hope of a satisfactory alteration. r. HUME. said, that in taking leave of the Army Estimates, he would express a hope that the House would never again see them so large, tor, notwithstanding all that had been said, there was no reduction. Sir H. HAR DING E said, the Honourable Member was mis taken, for there was a bona fide reduction of 140,0001. although, as be had already explained, it did not appear so much on account of the trawler of items from the army extraordinaries. After a short conversation the vote was agreed to. Sir H. HA It HINGE said, the next vote he should propose was a sum of 283,1931. for the Disembodied Militia. A reduction of 5,0u01. had taken place in this vote, and he trusted there would be a still further reduction next year. Mr. S. RICE would convince the House that no material ser vice could accrue to the country from the keeping embodied the Militia. There was then not only a saving in disembodying that farce—which cost the country for the last twelve years two and a half millions—but actually, if the - Militia were called out, it would be foiuid that raw recruits would be equally efficient. The balloting and enrolment cost the country 24,0001. per annum, and in the metropolis was a system of perjury and fraud. The training also nominally cost the country dearly, though no benefit could be de rived from it, as there were but three trainings since 1819. The Honourable 'Member contended at some length, that a great re duction could be made in the present vote, from the non-necessity of the system to maintain which it was granted by the House. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER reminded his Hon. Friend that he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had con ducted a Bill through that Office, by which a considerable saving was effected in the Militia expenses in Ireland ; and therefore thought that be did not require the stimulus of his Hon. Friend's eloquence to the effecting every possible reduCtion in the existing estatilishments of the country. He agreed that the Militia system might admit of amendment, since the 28 days training system had been relinquished ; but he could not thence conclude, that because training was not found necessary, that balloting ought also to be abandoned; for it was necessary, at the breaking out of a war, to know when the Militia supply could be at once mustered. The subject was under the consideration of Ministers. Sir J. WROTTESLEY was sure, at an equal expense with the training system, a much more efficient militia force could be main : tamed. Colonel WOOD apprehended that thdugh these were peace times,* would not be politic to break up the existing militia force. Mr. 8.• RICE said, he never argued io favour of abolishing the Militia; because be thought such a force was necessary to show foreign countries the strength of our own. Mr. WARBURTON said, as during the last eleven years the Militia and the Volunteers had cost 5,410.0001. be would ask whether the proptiety of keeping up such a (wee was consistent? hlr. Alderman WOOD said the militia of the City of London were as efficient as any other men, yet one of the two regimenu was reduced, and be was very glad of the circumstance. He thought a militia staff was unnecessary. Sir H. HA RDINGE thought it was necessary to keep up the staff of the mifitia; but be could assure the House that it was the intention of Government to make every possible reduction in the expense of keeping up such a force. Mr. Iff/ME said, that as we hid Ambassadors and Consuls in all countries abroad, at an expense of £450,000 per annum, we ought surely to receive from them any indication of the prospect of a war. They were our spies, and if they were effective in their duties, there was no occasion to keep up a force which the Hon. 'Member (Mr. Warburton) had stated during eleven years had cost the country above five millions of money. The grant was then agreed to. The next was 7,5001. for the Hibernian Society for the Mainte nance,.Clothing, and Education of Soldiers' Children. Mr. HUME observed, that one day they were granting sums like thg present, which acted as encouragements to population, and another they were voting money to promote the objects of emigre. L ", with a view to get rid of their surplus population. The vote was, however, agreed to. 1,8001. for the Hibernian Marine was also agreed to. Oo the question that a sum of 1,5001. be granted for the use of th e Royal Cork Institution, Mr. HUME objected to the vote. Mr. R. GORDON wished to understand upon what principle the encouragement of the Literary Institution in Ireland was to be placed en a different looting from that on which it stood in Eng land and Scotland. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—That society bad been established in the year 1802; it bad subsist' -• upon vo luntary subscriptions till the year 1807. liy the Govcanment of coat day it was deemed a society worthy of public support. He W. 5 aware it had been said that the grant was only at the time understood to be temporary; but be had caused a minute search 14 be made. and could find nu trace in the correspondence of any such condition having been annexed to the grant. He bad to add, however, that when ht was in Ireland he had done all that he twiceived practicable to effect reduction, and accordingly the Pant had been reduced in his time from ,82,500 a year to £1,500. Mr. R. GORDON declared that the explanation of the Right Honourable Gentleman, so far from removing the doubts he enter laitted with respect to this vote, only tended to confirm them. The cas- stood thus front 1802 to 1807 the society had maintained Pseif ; and after what might be considered the most difficult and Lncertant portion of its existence, the Government came forward with pi:cuniary assistance. Mr. J. mot hoped, that the whole • estion would be em braced in the iiiymies of the Finance Lonimitiee. his Right !ionourahle Frind, the Alembet for Waterford, who was the awn Chancellor of the Exchequer when this grant originated, •,-iired, the pm ties interested that the grant was only intended to ne of n trinvrary na• tire. The CHANC EL LOR of the EXCHEQUER would cettainly Fin subjection that the question Should come under the coo. 'tdrtatuin of the finance Committee. The responsibility in tainting the grant rested but with him, but with the Right al-oth e r for Waterford. Atter afew word. from Mr. D. W. Ha IIVIY and the Caraiscste Loa of the 4:unmet*, Lord Mists Ish t ti moved as an amendment, that instead of W. the sum ct 1,0001. to granted. Mr. NO ItTi I uthrived, that Ireland was so poor a country as. rrimirr of that nature, and observed that Pa ,9.vi,t n.., 14.0 •11.1tirIlly to wandraw the Wawa of she bavf • CUllivtled veula that Institution. Mr. BBRNAL supported .the amendment, as did Lord Pow- Lirr. • . The House thenslifridell, When there appeared— • For the Amendment . . . . • 26 Against it . 66 Majority . . On our return to the Gallery' we found the CnstastaN putting the que,tion that he report progress and ask leave to sit again, which having been agreed to, the House resumed, and the Chair man having reported progress, the Report was ordered to be re ceived, and the Committee to sit again on Monday. NEW SOUTH'WALES BILL. Mr. HUSKISSON moved that the House resolve itself into a Committee upon this Bill. • • Sir J. MACINTOSH then rose, and after alluding to the various changes that had taken place in the Co. I•snial Office, to which might be attributed a great por tion of the delay which the measures proposed by the Right Hon. Getiteman had met with, he said that at this late hour of the night, and in the exhausted state in which he found himself, he should take case not to waste any part of that time and 'attention which the kindness of the 11- u,e usually bestowed upon him, by unnecessary delay, or more unnecessary apolo gies. Without lather comment, therefore, he should proceed at once. The objects embraced in the mo tion r f s& hich he had given notice were embodied in the folios. log resolutions, which he should now take the liberty to read, as the foundation for those arguments with which he should afterwards trou ble the House. The first resolution which he should propose was, " That 'it *tie an instruction to the Commi tee to receive a clause for the immediate establishment of Trial by Jury in New South Wales and Van Diemen's Land (excel Ling the penal settlement for offenders there convicted), and for directing the Governor and Council of each Colony re spectively, to tiame regulations for that purpose, re specting the number and qualifications of jurors either in the whole Colony, or in any districts which may seem to them to require modification:--The second resolu tion which he had the honour to propose, was to this effect-6 , That it be an instructon to the Committee to receive a clause t ) provide for the election of one-third of the legislative councils of both the said Colonies (till assemblies shall be called by his Majesty), to be chosen for five years, by all persons enjoying a clear yearly in come of 1001. who shall have been tree inhabitants for three year., and to direct the Governor and present Council to make such regulations. as they think fit, re specting the time, place, and other circumst truces of the election of such members." Having stated the ob jects which he had in View, and which were contained in these resolutions, he might almost content himself without intruding upon the patience of the House ; but feeling, as he did, a warm interest in the fate ot those Colonies, be hoped he might be excused if he trespassed a little upon their time. It appeared by a late census, that in New South Wales there were 45,000 free Englishmen, all of whom would be eligible to act as jurors. He saw no reason why those Colonies should differ from other Colonies, and why the : blessings of the British Constitution should be Withheld from them, while other parts of his Majesty's foreign possessions enjoyed those blessings. Their condition as penal Co lonies was no reason why they should not possess the right of electing representatives, and the blessing of a trial by jury. Tne only way to wipe out the foul stain cast upon these Colonies would be, to show their inha bitants that they were placed upon the same footing and enjoyed the same privileges as other parts of his Majesty's possessions. Mini Persons had bee's deterred from settling in New South Wales from no other cause than that it was brande4 14 7. 04. Legislature as a recep tacle for crime. Tbe'OnlyNeai to introduce a reforma tory system, if he might ate. the t erm , and to make those Colonies one grand Penitentiary, would 'be to afford to the inhabitants the means of relieving them. selves from the stigma which .had been cast upon them. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman proceeded at some length to point out the advantages which would arise by the introduction ince .New South Wales of the two . measures - to which he had referred—namely, the right to elect Representatives and the Trial by Jury. The Right Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr. Huskisson) had narrowed the ground' upon which he (Sir James Macintosh) was now presuming to legislate ; and the only question between them appeared to be, whether the proposed measures should be adopted now or here after? He (Sir. James Macintosh) wished to_begin the work of reformation by granting some of those pri vileges at. once, which in time must all be conceded. The free settlers were all native Englishmen, who ' had most of them been jurors in their native coun try. He was not introducing new measures amongst a. new people—(Hear, hear). The great body of the settlers were already acquainted with the duties which, as jurors and electors, they would have to fulfil, and consequently the present time was that which should be seized upon to afford them those advantages which they were entitled to receive. Bat if those measures were delayed to an indefinite hereafter, the present po pulation would grow less and lees, and a new race Mould spring up. who would neither understand nor - be capable of appreciating the blessings ot the British free men—(Hear, hear).—Was'it.irifie to say, wet until this people shall number halt a million, and then, ignorant as they would be of the benefit, to be derived from the privilege of electing members to watch over their interests, and equally ignorant of the blessing of the Trial by Jury thrown suddenly amongst them, those institutions of which they had I rev iously known no thing, and the benefits of which toeyoviuld be wholly incapable of appreciating ? Was it consistent with policy to withhold those institutions from the Colonists of New South Wales, and wait moil tory became too strong for subjection, hen they might possibly demand that as a right which they would now look upon as a boon ?—(Hear, hear). 11 tiose institutions were de layed, a blind civil war, or the t loss of the Colo nies, must follow. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman then alluded to the feuds which existed in New South Wales bets& ten the o emancipationists," as they called themselves, and the non-emancipated. Now nothing, he conceived, could have a greater ten dency to soften down asperities, and blend men toge ther, than when they were in the habit of acting to gether in different situations ot society. From the result of his inquiries, he could not help wishing that he bad not at first moved for the appointment of a Select Committee to investigate the subject now un der discussion. Excepting Mr. Bigg, there was no authority against the introduction of those institutions; opposed to his evidence, there was the testimony of Governor Hinton, and also that of the late Governor- General Macquatrie, who was justly called the father of the Colony, and who, in his report to Lord Bathurst, in 1825, stated that there was a sufficient body of flee. men in those colonies competent to perform the duties not ouly of Jurors, but electors. It might be said that Sir Thonias Brisbane, because he was devoted to the p.it suits of science and y, WAS not a competent witness upon such a question. It was true that Queen El zabeth said that 4 , Mr. Bacon," as she called him, was too mach of a wit to make a good Iswyer ; but, however cruet* observation might be, generally speaking.it was 4b9Ut . *s just in the instance of the great Bacon as it would be.to ray thatSir.T. Bsisbini was aniticomPe' tent witness upon a question tike the present, because he had breught-home a larger share of knowledgeupon other subjects thaq fell to the lot* most men. •Ctlief Justice Wilde and Mr. Justice Ford had 41 . '0 given it as their opinion that the Triil by Jury woul4 work well in New Sobth Wales.and they laughed with scorn at the idea that this colony was not as ripe as any other to pat take of the benefits of.a free constitution. Now, wit'i respect to a representation. there was no doubt but that if the inhabi tants of New South Wales were represented in assembly, they would more cheerfully contribute towards taxation. Above all things, let the benefits intended sooner or later, come is the shape of free gifts; else, by pro- tracting them, .a great part of the grace and favour which belonged to concession would be taken away. In an able anonymous essay upon Milton, the supposition that a nation could not be ripe for liberty was very in geniously opposed. The author said that it reminded him of the story of the lamb, which sagaciously resolved never to go into the water until it had learned to swim. He, however, although struck with the whimsical in genuity of the illustration, still Maintained a different opinion. Desiring to teach hii son the useful exercise of swimming, he would put him at first into shallow water, and give him an opportunity of acquiring the art bs degrees. In the same manner would he impart coils stitutional privileges to the colony. It would be judi cious policy to initiate them into the sy , t -m of perfect civil liheity as early as possible, in order to prevent hereafter -such a shock t.) their feelings and habitual opinions as its sudden intioduction must necessarily produce.—On the first Resolution being put, Mr. HUSKISSON said, he had Oct introduced the measure wet rout fully investigating the circumstances, and consid red the peculiar necessities under which that Colony was placed. His Right Han. Friend had done him no more than justice in saying that he was anxious to introduce all the institutions of the int ther country, and gradually prepare the inhabitants of New South Wales for the enjoymer.t df all those privileges to'vAich as British subjects they were entitled. His Right Hon. iend was not, however, quite correct in the view he had taken of the case; for those who had departed from this country for any of the British Colonies carried with them all the privileges and birthrights of Englishmen, and it was unnecessary . for him to say that it was not a part of the duty of Government to grant that as a boon to which they were undoubtedly entitled. In 'his provision he contemplated, wished, and desired to see the population of New South Wales possessed • of the t w o great privileges—Trial by Jury, and a representative legislafbre ; but the question was, whether those privis leges• should be introduced immediately in all their beatings, in. allaheir vigour, such - as they were in this. country ? If such was the case, they might find . it ne cessary to call upon the Government in some instances to suspend them, and it was surely better for some time to withhold them. In the Bill which he had intro duced, it was intended to extend the privilege to the Government of the country of granting Trial by Jury in all civil cases. His Right Hon. Friend 'would find, if he examined, that the foundation would be laid of granting the inhabitants of that Colony a share in ma naging their own concerns. His Right Honourable Friend had concluded his speech by explaining how he would act by a boy of fourteen years of age in introducing him into life—that he would rio longer keep him in a monastery, but let him see a liitle,,o( the world. But surely he must acknowledge thit there was some difference between an innocent boy of fourteen years of age, who had spent his time in a siaisastery, and two thirds of the inhabitants of New South. Wales,, who had been sent for fourteen years to .Botauß,Diry,for ' crimes comm itted against the lavis cf their country. He asked, would any one consider it a great'advantige to have a Jury formed 0! the emancipists,.as his Right Honourable Friend had properly called the freed men of New South Wales? 4it present thee existed no complaint again the administration of justice there, and he (Mr. H.) wonld•say, that he would rather be tried by a Jury composed of seven men of such a character as those Gentlemen who administered justice, than by twelve emancipists. Whilst the colony . remained what it at present was, it was impossible that fair and impartial justice could be administered in any other say than the present. He did not say that the time was ' , not approaching when Trial by Jury might not be in. troduced in its fullest extent ; nor was it his wish or in tention that all the institutions of this country should not be introduced into every British Colony, which was founded by settlement, and not by conquest. They ought to take care, however, r f unsettling the habits of property which were now maintained. At present the Legislature proposed, by way of a first step, to appoint a Legislative Committee, for the purpose of watching and controuling every measure of the State. All trials should be public, under the inspection of a free Press, and a population jealous if their rights. They should now he prepared in the coarse of a few years for the regular introduction of a Legislative Assembly ; nor had he any fears when such a change should take plice,• that it would lead t.s any political convulsion. He was unwilling to grant teethe Government the ungra- Cious power of suspending the privileges of the British Constitution when fully introduced. He would prefer allowing them the privilege of extending the benefit of it. On those grounds he was anxious that the House should adopt the three clauses which he proposed in troducing inter the Bill in Committee—one limiting the °per stions of it to a period of seven years; another giv . itig, power to the Governor, under the authority of the lfcretary of State, toexteml the rights to which he had alluded; and a third, that in every law which svisk.en ..cteci by a free . Government, it should be deciated how much of it was the law of England, and how mild; the law pf. gig country. Mr. D. GILBERT approved of the Bill, and of at the steps which had been taken by his Majesty's Govern ment, with regard to Nevi; South Wales. Mr. HUNIE had every reason to believe, that if, in stead of inflicting a military Government, they would introduce a portion of representstion and the privileges of British subjects into New South Wales, it would-be the most flourishing of the Colonie . In reference to the delay in introducing Trial by Jury, the Hon. Membei adduced the case of Louisiana and Florida. Mr. WARBURTON objected to that part of the Bill which gave tile suitor the tight r f applyiog to the Privy Council. Mr. S, WOItTLEY thought the Bill well calculated t o effect the object fir which it was intended. New South Wales was differently situated horn other Colo nies. 'the continual introduction-of a•certain -class of persons precluded the possibility of establishing in it those legislative improvements, of which other Colonies weir susceptible. • Sir M. W. RIDLEY approved of the principle of the measure, although he thought that. some amendments might be made in it. These however did not extend so far as was proposed by his. Right lion. Friend (Sir J. Macintosh)--for he was of opinion, that it would be impossible to carry on the Government of the Colony, or to administer justice in ir, it either a resident Legisla, tore, or Trial by Jury, were established there. Ile Watt' notitffefer th . paticular iAdividtiariq the re. mark he was about to•nikke; but'he felt it hii diity to state, that ire his opinion's great impr-vemeni trtiold result hous.the publication in 'he London .G.tense .of the nettles of persons apointed told' high .4.ltotions.in that Colony, convinced as be was, that many of these now hhlding offices in that and other ealtillte% not have been selected, had a strict serittittY WO) tlikis characters and pretensions been previously instidstled. . Mr. HORACE TWISS said, the knowb dge of one fact might obviate the necessity for one at least of the Right Honourable Gentleman's propositions—namely . , that the Goverunr',l thi Wisely had the pokei , of etr-* tending to the colonists the right of Trial by Jury, if he should deem it expeciert. Sir JAMES NIACINTOSH. here intimated, that be should not press his AmendmentA. They were accord .. ingly put andnegatived. The House then resolved Itself into the Committee, when several verbal Amendments were proposld and agreedlo. The Bill thinkwent through the Committee, and the Report, in with the Amendentkwas ordered to be brought up on N'onday. The other Orders of &frisky were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at HALF-easy Two O'CLoce. -...e5..- • . . • MAJORITY Of Fifty in favour of the Second Reading of the Usury 'Lavers' - • • Amendment Bill. A!cock, Thomas Herries, Rt. Hon.J.C. Planta, Joseph •• Baring, Francis' Hume, Jriseph PrOtheroe. Ed ward Harley, Harrison Irving, John Rae, Sir Will :am Blake, Sir Francis- Jeplasts,C. D. ' Robinson, G. It. Calvert, John .Itrinyti, Earl Smith, Wm. Lapel. John • Kennedy, Francis Stuart Worrey,Hon.J: Cuurreisay, T. P. King, lion. R. (Cork) Talmash, Hon. F. rharidos, Marquis of Lumley, Saville Trant,— • • Davie., Colonel hi l l...hall, John Villiers. T. H. Doherty, John Macleod, Warburton, Henry t )rummond,.Horno Airlock, J. 131 Whitmore, W. W. lEa.thope, John North, John KT Wilson, Sir Robert Ebringron. Viscount Nugent, Lord Wood, Alderman Forietcue, Hon.G. M. Owen, Sir Edward Wood, John • Fyler, T. B. Pallnetston, Lord' . • Gnulburn,Rt.lJon.H. Philips, Sir 13.. auras. Gilbert, Davies Philips, G. R. . Martin, John • Gye, Frederick Pigot, G. E. G. F. Thomson, Charlet?: MINORITY Of Thirty-eight, on the Question that the Sum of 2171 12s. tlie pay fbr the year to the aril Governor of Dartmouth Castle, be deducted from the vote for Garrisons. Banker', H. • Fazakerley, J. N. Palmer, C. F. Baring, A. Gordon, Hobert Price. R. - • • Bernal, R. Heathcote, G. J. Ridley. WM. W. • • Blake, Sir F. Hobhouse, J. C. Stewart, John . . Burrell, Sir C. ' Howard; Henry Tavistock, Martini; • . .. Burdett, Sir F. Blume, Joseph - Thomson, C. P. • • Carter, J. . Labouehere. Henry Warburton, Henry Clive, K B. .. Lambert, J. S. Western, C. C. , • Colborne, R. Lester, B. 1.. Whitmore, W. W. Crompton, S. • Leyeester, Ralph Wilbraham, Ge o r ge Davenport, E. D. Loch, James Wood, John . Duncanoon, Lord Moberly, John Wrottesley, Sir J. Ducane, P. • M` Donald, Sir Jame. . . •• • ' 'NISI R-Sir James Graham. . • 1 LIST OF . THE MINORITY Of Twenty-veViti ' wbb voted for Lord Nonvern's m o ti o n to re- , duce the Grant from 21,500 to 21,000, for the Cork Literary Institution. . s Blake, Sir Francis Hume, Joseph . Monet, J. B. .• ••••.*/ Bernal, R. . Harvey, D. W. , Oeborn,.l.orrl F,.,. _,_. .Bentinek, Lord G. llobbou s e, J. C. P ow l ett , Hon. W.1.k., Cave, Otway ' . Kennedy, T. • Pendarvh, R We. Y ' ' Dickinson, W. Xing, Rob. (Cork) Palmer, C. F. ' ' 4 ' .. % ' "Ellison, C. • Lester, R. - Rice, T. S. • • Graham, Sir limes Langston, J. Ti. Stewart, Sir M. , t ..• 1• Gueit, J. J. . Lloyd, T. - • Warburton, IL ..... ' Gordon, Robert Micinfosle, Sir J. ' ' NYrottesley, Fir .1; ••` ' • . , . . ~ • Taz.azz— Lord Morpetb. . • - --** re.'? EVEN MO STAR.'" lapvp,ON. SATURDAY, NNE 21, 1828. STOCK . CH A l l4sl 61C, TWIRLIFIE-O'CLOVIL • The Camel niaricet appeata ratbirleirry'thls isiarning as Cbn. lois opened this mottling at 881, and 'at present may be voted at' Sal j.--Portuguese ketk•bas fallen one per" cent: but in otber .Foreign Secutititslittleor nothing is doing. . . ,~~ CITY, HALF-PAST ONR O'CLOCK. Consols have beenquctuating during - the morning between 881 to;. and 883 6, with little or nothing' Being.—Portuguese Stock • have been done at 594, and now are 60 to i. PRICE -OF. STOCKS AT TWO O'CLOCK. I3ink Stock 210 lndia Bonds. . 3 per Cent. Red. 873 I South Sea Stock 3 per Ct. Cons. - Shut Old Annuities 31 1 per Cent., •', ~ ,troon Rzcheq. BiUs 64 5 ' 53 per Cent. Red, 95 4 ,e5OO Ditto 64 5 4 per Ct. New, Sint .000 and 5200 Ditto 6.5 6 • 4 per Cent. int, 10411 Advertised Lone Ann. 123•11-16 Bank for Acct. India Stock • Consols forAcct.Blll 3 1 . FORFAC/N FUNDS. TWO 4Vtli.o. K Brazilian Yids. 5 pCt. . Do. Ace. 38 71 8, 6 * , Do Acct. 644 ' Portug. Bds. Sp (7. 60i, Buenos Ayres rids. 6p C. 45 DoAcct 601 58e 60i 60 ' blez Bds. s p Ct. 273 8* I - Span. Bds. 1823. Sp. C. 8 . Met.8d5,1825,6 pet. 581 4 Do. Acct. BRITISH AND FOREIGN SHARES, TWO•O'CLOCIt. Anglo. Mexican British Iron Colombian United Mexican In the H( SHA 11N, 100 50 100 40 ►A I th 90 45 42i ' X 6 40 . 41 , 1110 k , 16116 13 14 I , • Joust of LordsliTtlirest the Pomp Di'sfrariu. . chisement Bill was negatived without a division, for thst..,: want of sufficient evidence of the corruption of tbe . l3nr- , • gesses. The LORD CHANCELLOR saidi truly, that-nothing , I . bad fallen from him throughout the successive debates to have authorised a suppositisin tlmt he was hostile to its principle; but as the case . was not proved, his v ship was of course bound to ote against it. Thnsar . tion given by Government to this and the East.Retford .Bill are proofs that they are not, as has been representedi: opposed to all moderate Morris, and supporters of proved corruption. It is now understood, from what fell from Mr. Pun on the last East Retford debate, that . ` dreg frinChise of that -Barisal) Ways ,. t: be merely thrown open to the Hundreds, .but disc.-it will snore vrobably be assigned tolVfauchester. The opposition of-Ministers to 'giving both-tratowbv, is• a very different thing from their consent volt in the case of one borough; reserving • perhaps a stipulation _that the, next forfeited franchise shall be otherwise disposed of. If this should be the result, it will be somewhat curious, that the alleged cause ~of the late separation of, tbaCabinet should be carried into effect just..the same, without - the assirtance,of the ' seceders. • In the House of Commons, notice was given by Col. Startionp, that, he intended next Session to move for a repeal of the Act-abolishing Small Notes after April 1829. After the settlement of the"Oestittit, as it was supposed, two years ago, and the low lengthened de bate, which terminated in the, complete refutation of the advocatei of a Paper Currency, it seems very injur dicious to agitate the subject again at the very period of its taking effect. The sentiments of Government, are, howevei, so well . known, that no fears need be att., ~ tertAinAd Of . ioy change of policy in this matter.. • e„ . :;.• • , The House went into a Committee of Supply ) ised•• voted the Estimates for the General Officers and Gar• .. ~ - .. I .:w..__ ..,, - :6