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w 1.41) Jay tles..',er of fiat 1-7oufe mutt feel for the the Empire at large. From the bea cont'.:er Jinn he could give the foLjed, it appeared to him that the Abolition of the Trade would be impra:tieables and th.tt the attempt would be re fioaded ; he therefore begged leave to enter his ma foe;' 7a3teß against the paffing of this Bill, and he ft ol'a ...mote site tecond reading. Mi. I itENCH confidered the abolition propoted as in;urious to the moil important iatereits of the cm- F --e. It was. however, fonewhat renunitable s that lone lion. Gentlemen, who bad formerly been sup. r cers of the meatures were now its powerful oppo tuats ; and an Hon. Gentleman who now warmly i n ,.ports it had alto appeared to have fomewhat ehingesl his fentiments. gr. BARHAId, in explanation, (aid that he had n ever changed his opinion on the robin& It was now plecifely the fame u it had been for a con6derable tone. Sir WILLIAM PULTENEY fad he bad never b.forc delivered the reafons upon which his opinion o . the fulled was (min.:cc!, nor fhonld he have done f• now, if tit had not been for Come rather extraordi n try arguments that he had heard from an Homo,. able M. tuber. As to the danger which might arife f ro m tloe difculfion of the opinion, or the adoption of the meafure, that indeed was evident : But as to the advantages that an Honourable Gentleman !poke of, he believed they only tallied in theory. The real fad was agreed upon by all parties to be this : The Weft Indies cannot be cultivated by Europeans, whore con flitutimis will not bear fatigue in that climate. It is therefore necelfary, if they are to be cultivated at all, that it muff be by Come other dais of the human (pe cks, who being natives of warm climates, are able to endure that degree of labour and fatigue which no Eu ropeans could do in that climate. This being the ac knowledged fad, the queftion is, (ball we abandon the cultivation ofthe Weft India rflandsaltogether,or what clefs of the human fpecies (hall we employ to cultivate them ? Some fay that it is much better to employ free Negroes than Slaves, and that the labour of freemen would be more produEhve. This is, however, only a fuppofition, a mere theory. The fad is known to be, that the natives of warm countries are not na turally difpofed to labour. In warm countries the climate produces the means of fubfillente with fo little labour, that they have no neceffity, and con fequently no inclination, fur laborious woik ; and for that fpecies of labour which was necelfary for railing fugar and other colonial produce, it was ab foluiely necetary to rife filmething of compulfion. It might appear to Tome to be a great hardlhip to compel • men to labour, but it was the common condition of the lower orders of fociety. It was by cotgulflon that we made our Sailors go on board our (hips, and this fort of compulGon was often very proper and neteffary. As to the general manage ment of the Ilawesin the Well Indies, he could alert from his own knowledge and means of information, that they were univerfally much better treated now than they were formerly, and that there had bead as a difpofition as poflible evinces to increafe in the natural way. As to the Creoles, al- though they were fuperior for generation, they were inferior to the Africans in ability to labour, and it was found that they gradually grew weaker; It Might, therefore, well be laid, that experience had taught us that we cannot go on without•the continued it iporta doe of thole African. Slaves ; and the only qualms would be, whether or nut we were, in abandoning the trade, abandoning the cultivation of the Well India Viands altogether. He had often remembered to have heard many (plendid theories advanced in that Houle, and fupported with eloquence, tvhich went off alto gether, or were not found to anfwer. noctuenue was mot always a proof of the jullice of the eaufe which it fo powerfully fupported. The great Duke of Marl borough was certainly a very fuperior man, and man of moll excellent judgment, but he was never famous for his eloquence ; he, however, had difcti suination, and weighed matters well ; he knew what sneafures Ibould be adopted, and what Ibould be avoided. This was more than many eloquent men knew. To (peak eloquently, and to judge rightly, 'eve very different things. If it vitae merely to talk of humanity and jultice, and (hots popular topics, the talk would be ear) , ; but in the prefent inflance the confiderations were more important; as involv ing the great interefls of the country, and that hu manity and Office which was due even to numbers of our own people to whom the Well India trade gave employment. As to all the arguments that had been surged on account of the prelent flotation of affairs in the Weft Indies, he thought them of no import ance. Although we are now at war, our enemies cannot take up the trade, yet we cannot (uppofe that we are to he always at war, ar.d if the trade was now abAilbed, as (non as peace fhould be re dored. the French might again take up that trade which we would Co imprudently have thrown away. Thole arguments, that were only built on temporary circumaances were not entitled to much weight. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Barham), had fpoken of the danger that would arife of convulfions and infurreo: rim* from the continue! importation of labourers from Africa. It appeared to him that the danger lay an the other fide. If you were to flop all future im portation, (nth a meshy, muff give a very Ilrong turn to the minds of the Negroes now uponthe Wands: they might well fay, if you think that the Manion of naves is dreadful, that you will not allow any sore of our countrymen to be made Live., why are we to continue Saves Rill f lithe Abolition of the Trade mils entirely on the redoes of humanity and jullice, the fame principles would lead as far as entire emancipation. If then, by abolitbing the trade you could convince the Negroes in our Moods, that %heir Rate was much mote fhocking than ever they had before con6dered it, the only confequence would be; that they would be more ripe for infurredion, • which would bring an additional danger upon the Colonies. Frbm thcfe confederations, be could not avoid °pooling the (econd reading of the Bill. Mr. SULLIVAN hated that no hub contrail for sOOO Blacks, as had been alluded to in the courfe of the debate, had been entered into by the late Admi nißratton. • Mr. FOX (aid that he Ihould not have arifen up. an this occafton, if it odd not been for the kind of ar gument employed by the Hon. Baronet, who !poke lad but onc. That Hon. Barone: in his declamation aoinfl the , ,ry, had advarced fomething that had a truly paradoxical appearance indeed ; for it went to this, that if a ;berry c ably and eloquently &len. ded, that was an argutnettt again* it. Really, this' refembled the , oulery that, in the coutfe of the Re. volution, prevailed in France againlL eloquence— when the fhnut was eh reloquesta.-when the layout ite datrine cFthe day was that no Arillocracy was In odioqs as that of talent and eloquence. The Ho nourable Baronet had ohferved that Come fplendid theories had, in his recolledion, notwithltanding the able manner in which they had been defended, been rejefted by that Houfe. In examining his me mory it occurred to him that there certainly were fume theories fubmitted to that Houfe, which, althOs fupported by argument, by eloquen ce , by fart and hillorical evidence, were yet rejefted ; not, however, as the Honourable Baronet's paradox would inti mate, becaufe they were well defended, but becaufe as tome, not judging as liberally as he did of men's motives, would fay that theories were united by the power of ptivate intereß. With refpee, however, to the mealure before the Houfe, its advocates were not fupporting a mere theory, but grounded their defence of the meafure upon thiis thong and 414 rm hg fait r which was Qated by the Honourabl e Of- ficer who opened the debite. that there was a proportion of thirty blacks to one white on our Colonies. This one fact alone he confidered of fuch a natnre as fhould urge the Houfe to put an im mediAte end to this no lcfs dangerous than dic graceful traffic. As to its gradual Aboliiion, this was a recommendation which he had urged frequently for the left twelve or thirteen years ; but never ob feracd any endeavour made by the Gentlemen who urged it to promote that gradual Abolition. No. they never favoured the Houle with any projelt for that purpofe ; but Rill they kept the argument by them to make ufe of. With refpeft to the Honour able Baronet's remark on the probability, that the Slave Trade could not be prevented by us at the termination of the war,which he joined with the Hon. Baronet in wilding to terminate as loon as it could with propriety, from falling into the hands of other nations ; he would fay, that he apprehended, that there would be confiderable difficulty in reviving thii trade on the return of peace without the concurrence of Great Britain ; if acceding to the motion before the Houle, we (hc:uld determine to abandon it at prefent. The motion, he trufted, would be agreed to —that the Houfe would adhere to its former fenti- ment, and that the opinion of the Houk of Com mons, decidedly expreiTed, would be found to here . . that influence with refpeel to the fate of this theafure, to which it was pecoliarlY entitled. Mr. HUDLESTONE, in an impreffive fpeech, de precated the Amendment. The dread of this ~dions traffic falling into the hands of other nations lbould have no weight with the kloufe. Let it, he would fay, fall into loch hands, and let this country be exonerated from the difgrace attached to it. He reprobated, in ftrong terms, any argument againft the motion drawn from expediency, or founded upon a mere pecuniary bate, and appealed to the honour and chAraller of the Houle, whether they would totter firth contiderations to foperfede the grand comprehenfive principle upon which this meafure was grounded. With regard to the produce of the Weft India Colonies, particularly the article of fugar, it could be obtained in the Eaft Indies, for ithlance, without fuch a facrifice of hu manity and . jullice as the have trade involved. But even foppote firth tivicles could not be had elfewhere; did it therefote follow that the flare trade fhould be continued; even toppling human blood fhould be pronounced, as it was by fame, the deft manure, did it fallow, therefore, that the blood of Man fhould be fbed few fuch a purpore ? and was it not as well to bleed men to death at once, as to fweat the poor ne groes to death in our Colonies ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER de nied that any contraa had been made by Govern ment for the purchafe of haves in Africa for military purpofes, as the Honourable Gentleman who opened the debate, Rated. A propofition of Inch a nature had been tranfinitted to Government from the Wen- Indies, but Government rejected it. The objeft of Government, the Right Honourable Gentleman Rated to be, to purchafe the blacks out of Revery, for the purpofe of putting them into a military body. General GASCOIGNE Rated, that a propofition had been made from 'Government to a Merchant of Liverpool for the purchafe of a number of the blacks alluded to, and he could tell the Right Honourable Gentleman that whoever accepted the contrail, the blacks would be purchafed on the Coen of Africa. Of cootie his original llatement on this fubjea was not incorreft. Mr. WILBERFORCE rofe to trouble the Houle for a few moments. He never expected that st . pro. polition which was literally founded on a refolution and vote of Parliament, and the fuhjed of which had been over and over again difcuffed in that Houk, would have been termed a novel propofition, or that himfelf would have been reproached with not having brought forward anew thofe arguments, which, in common with every Gentleman in the Houle, who valued the honour of the country, he had, on former occaftons, employed againft the Slave Trade. It was grievous to fee men of an acute nnderflanding, like the Honourable Baronet (Sir William Pulteney), attend fo little to the leading point in the inquiry. The whole queltion of the policy, or the inexpedi• ence of the propnfition, depended upon another, if the population could or could not be kept up by na tural means. In America the population of the haves doubled in the thort period of feventeen Yeats. Such a prominent fail induced him to confider the popu lation of the Weft Indies, tuft to its own refources, in a very advantageous point of view. But it was not neceliary to look to other fituations ; we had examples, conducing to the fame inference, on the illands themfelves : it was a notorious WI, that the Maroons in Jamaica, and the Caribs in St. Vin cent's had largely increafed. Let any man read the Report of the Atrembly on the table, and doubt, if he can, that the prefent fituation of Jamaica is not more perilous than any new condition to which it could be brought by the Bill. By procrallination it was too plain they had expelled themfelves to the very jaws of deftration. With regard to a certain clefs of overlookers, and inferior perfons, it might be true, that the prefent Bill would be oppofed to their contralted interelt ; but with refped to all the refi t and efpecially to thofe whofe extenfivc pro perty was involved, refinance to this meat - ore, he conceived to be the excefs of abfurdity. One of the molt enlightened writers had recommerded the furpenlion of the Slave Trade, and be relpiintted his arguments by fails which feem decifivenn one of the 'colonies of North. America, this plan had *anal!' been adopted, and had been attended with all the rue cefs that might naturally be erpeaed. Goo and na ture had direfled a mode by which the chafm pro grefnvely occtloned in rkciety, should be (applied, and au long ab they should prefttme to refill the eter nal laws of Paovinswc s, instead of inereafing in °pit lence they would expore thernfelves to incurable po verty. What was the pecuniary embarraffinent of J - meica ? In the short interval of riventy years, the num- her of executions fnr debt afcende d to Bapoo. and amounted to 21 millions ind a ball nerling. It was not corre6t to fay there was nothing new to be ad• vanced on this fubjed, tire papers on the table fur nifhed an abundance of rnatetials perfedly novel, which he hoped would undergo a minute and atien live examination. The condition of the haves was molt depinrah!e ;—they had defcended to the Lowell Rep of humanity ;—their degradation was a difhonour to the clefs of beings to which they appertained;—they were not confidered as moral agents, but were urged only by the whip, and in this Rate of humiliation their minds were brotified, and their conffitutions dearoyed. The effed of this bill might be readily anticipated as it would be necef fary to preferve the population, the moral fitua. lion of the Negroes would be regarded, marriage would be refpeded, and this injured race would be reflored so a Ration in fociety equally honourable to thernfelves and ufeful to others. If they were not treated like men, they would foots thew they had not only the underßanding but the refentmehts of men, and would employ the phyfical powers with which they were endowed, again!! thofe who vio late the facred charader and dignity of man.— In a neighbouring iflaad it had been teen they could dillinguiffi remote objefts with perfpicuity, purfue them with vigour ; and let the opponents of this Bill be cautious left hey too grofsly infult the rights of humanity. It was not here pr poled to have an imme di a te emancipation ; thofe who had juft' views or the palms of the mind would be kelt of all inclined to any precipitation; the prefent mea. lure was merely preparatory, but he trotted it would ' introduce a more extenlive lame, by which thole unhappy objets would be finally reltored to the full enjoyment of their civil rights, and acquire the re fpedable rank of a free pealantry.—Nothipg was to be expelled from the Colonial Government ; and in the open confellion the Affembly had m.tde, it had dealt fairly with the Houle : as far as reg mica that inflitution, nn co-operation was to be expelled, but this difgracefnl traffic was to proceed as long as the patience of Parliament, and he would add, the my Ile rious ways of ,Paovimitice, would perniit its conti nuance. Let the. Houle then paufe, and contemplate its prefent duties ; the opportunity now offered might never return, and if the prefent moment were ne events might occur which would Roder the 'hands one general fcene of ruin and dest:ctation.— The ftorm was gathering in the welt, every inhant it was becoming more tremendous; it might be now too late to avert its horrors; and of this he was cer tain, that not an hour could be facrificcd without ferious danger. General G feCOIGNE role to expiain. Earl TEMPLE Paid, he came down to the Houle under the perfuafinn a contrad for haves had been entered into by Government; bat tie Right Ho pourable Gentleman (Mr. Pitt) had allured him there was no fuch contra& It perhaps might be trfeful jolt to explain the nature of the engagement, as report had given it : Government propofed to the Merchants of Liverpool to provide fur the Wands Soon haves. It is Rated, an adual contra& was con cluded for zoco of that number ; and blither, that though they were to be introduced as h a ves, they were to be entered as foldiers. It was added, a mer chant at the port named had adually fitted out a Ihip for the exprefs purpofe of the pea performance or this contra& The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. " It will be perhaps fufficient to fay, in anfwer to his Lordfhip, that I know nothing of any loch tranfac tion."—The queftion being called for, and grangers having withdrawn.the Houle divided upon the amend ment of General Gafcoigne. For the Amendment 77 —Againit it 7o—Majority ageing the Bill 7. The Houle being refurned, went through the re maining orders, and adjourned, at about half pall nine, to this day. LONDON. FRIDAY, MARCH t. PRICF. OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK: Confab, for money, 38—for April. 381-omnium s 4. PIMP. OF STOCKS YESTERDAY: Dank Stock 179} ao 179} Short Ann. 2.1 3 per C. Red. Ann. Out India Stock 184 3 per Cent Cone 380381 Imp. 3 pa Cent. 3711 4 per Cent. 7 6 4 i _ Imp. Ann per Cent. Navy 89} 90 59} I Mkt per Cent. 88} 88 Per cc= 1797 , unit Omnium 4 preen Bank L. Mn. 17 9-16} Conf. for me.3B}}} The Slave Trade Bill the Houfe of Commons ! .as ha night thrown out of ! We are (Orr) , for it. His Majefiy's fhip LATONA, Captain Goss FUN ) is arrived in Plymouth Sound, having on board one hundred and ninety-fire thoufand dollars, taken oat of a Spanifb prize, not yet arrived. This morning Hamburgh papers of .the 6th and Bth inflant were received. By accounts from Italy in thefe papers. it appears that the Court of Naples will be fuffertd to perfevere in that fyftem of neutra lity which it has hitherto oblerred,•as the French Commander in Chief, by the ezp•cfs confent of 80. naraara, has given his affurance, that the French troops will not pafa the ftipnlated line of demarcation, unlefs compelled by unforefeen hoflile attempts. CONSTANTINOPLIt, Dac. 3o.—Tne Grand Vizier has wade a propofal to the principal Treafurer, that an adequate fund (hall he eflablifhed for the certain and couftant payment of the Janiffaries, for the main tenance of which a new Tax is to he impaled. This tax has occafirned great difcontent among the peo ple► which is increafcd by the new eftAblifhment of the Marine ; the dir►flion of which has certainly been confided to very incapable pylons. The French Minifter TALL YR AVD hag. 17114Mitted a Note to the Turkith Aml,.►tf.►dur at Emmet, of which Wald Banta, a ()tort time be fore his dep Imre from' Conllantinople, delivered a copy to the Reis Effendi. This Note mitered fur prize at the Waal of the Porte to acknowledge the Emperor of the French, finer, France has ever been the olden and molt fincere friend of the Porte. The mites of this conduit are that adverted to, and are afcribed to a Labatt in sew Tarkills Miniftry, Mimic.' to the true inure& d the empire, which has had the art to procure the switition of all ad vAntageOUs propoliuons on the porter France, and to eolintft the Porte with another Power. In con cluflon, it is aliened, that the prefent condaft of the Porte is incontinent with its former *dolman dig nity, which would never fufFer it to render itklf de pendent on, and fubjeit to any foreign power with our well-founded motives. On the communication of this note, the Reis Ef. fendi declared, that with refpe6l to the refufal of ac• knnwledgment of the Emperor NAPOLEON, the Porte had been guided by the proteflations of other Powers. According to letters received w•day from Afia, the Wechabis, or Wechabites, have been defeated by the Paiha of Bagdad, who was (till in purfuit of them when the accounts came away. We expeft to receive further particulars very form.. ITALY, JAN. 14—According to letters that may he relied on, the continuance of the Court of Naples in the fyflem of neutrality it has hitherto obferved, is now fully confirmed, by the formal conftut of the Emperor NAssoLsoN ; and the French Commander in Chief, General ST. CYR, has already given an al. furance that the French troops will not pals the flipu • lated line of demarcation, unlefs compelled by our unexposed hoilile attempts. MILAN, Jas. 3o. —A Proyifionary Commiltion has been appointed here, to determine hi the 'aft inflanee on the legality of Prizes made by privateers, under the flag of the Italian Republic, at Leghorn, where the infet%ous diftemper has now entirely ceafed. teen merchant flips have entered the harbour between the 3oth of December and the sth of January. The necellary meafures of piecaution have been adopted in the Republic of the Seven Wands again& the epidemical dillemper, which has pre vailed at Leghorn. MADRID, JAN. 11.—The following is an CURIA of a letter frn::. the camp at St. Roch, dated the6th ins. 44 The winter has occafioned no cheek to the ra vages of the yellow fever among the gerrifon of Gib raker. It !ab been obferved that many more Ertel& than natives, in proportion, have died of it, which is afctibed to the former being lets temperate in the ufe of limn liquors. We have atm double reafun to hold Gibraltar Ittiely blockaded." The ,Engiiih have turned a wayfeveral neutral (hips which weve endeavouring to enter Cadiz. The am mofity againft the Engli(h is very great at Cadiz. VIENNA, JAN. 26.—The new French Ambaffadnr, M. de la ROCHETOUCAULT, will very fools make his public entry. Mr. ARBUTHNOT, who goes Amble cador frum England to Conitantinnple, and who left tt.is city eight days ago, is arrived at Trick whence will proceed to Conflantinople on board an Eng lith frigate, Ucompariied by leveret Englith Gentle men. LisanN, JAN. merchant here has received a letter from his fon, who is on his voyage to Brazil, Rating, that the (hip in which be is has been (larded by the Englifli, and all the letters opened. On re prefentation being being made on the part of the Por tuguefe, that the two Governments were at peace with each other, the Engldh Captain Wavered that he had orders for what he did. Yeftetday, at the Levee, Sir SIDNEY SMITH, ;ft conftquence of his late promotion to be Colonel of Marines, was prefented to his Wits-re by Lord PAUL ST, on which he had the honour to kit: his MAJISTY'S hand. Admiral CAMP, from Portugal, was alfo prefented by the Portuguefe Ambatfador.— After the Levee, his MOIST? gave a private audi ence to Lord MuLoaava and Mr. PITT. It is reported that the Court of Berlin has mitered to our Court a defire that the late profeffions of Bo *APART& may lead to a negociation for peace. The thing is probable enough. The King of Ptak could hardly do otherwife. He is not, however, the Poten tate whole opinicn will decide the The North Sea fleet we =lceland is to be confi derably augmented in a few weeks, and an Expedi tion it is Paid will fail from Yarmouth in tbecourfe of the fpring, but for what delination is not pofitively • mentioned. Ovens are building there to bake bread for the troops, which it is Paid will amount to fome thoufands, who are to arrive there or in the vicinity in about a fortnight. A depot is to be built on the wet' tide of the water for to,ooo (lands of arms. Yefterday a Court of Diredon was held a• the Eaft-India Houle, when the following Commanders took leave, previous to departing for th ir refptive deflinations, viz.—Captain H. Vinton, Warley ; T. HARRINGTON, Ganges ; J. Pstrosasseass, Hope, for China; James MURRAY, Devonthire, for Cey. lon ; and H. ISAACRI, Metcalfe, for Bombay.—The Court adjourned, at five o'clock, till foie day. PLYMOUTH, Faa. a7.—Came in the LATOII•, of 38 guns, from a cruize ' during which the captured two Spanilh ftlips from Vera Cruz, laden with va luable cargoes, but they are not yet arrived. The Larom• has on board 193,650 dollars, which the took out of them ; alto the SANTA MAGAIIIITTA, of 38 guns, from a cruize.—Sailed the Eotits, of 33 guns, on a cruize. CORN EXCHANGE, MARX-LAM, MARCH r. The ire& arrivals of Grain in general, are bet few. and prefuming on better fupply of Wheat, lii tic is flitting in that article—for prime quality. rather better prices are made—Old Dantzic abcut t t6s. per quarter—Rye keeps ha price—Barley in mid dling quantity, at rather lower price—White Peas have little fate—Beans of each fort at nearly lag sputatinn.—Having a more bri& tale for Oats, they fetch an advance of about is. 6d. per quarter.....- Flour in plenty, as of late ; force famples of 6 te, ett rather more than our general currency.—Uttar at. tides have little variation. GENERAL CURRENCY AS 01110,11 L Wheat. 765. pos. toss per qr. Grey Pesti 40111.11b441. Fine Ditto. toBs. use. oil Beans, 431. Ons od Rye, 545. 6os ad. Tick Ditto pm Bariel.43‘ 495. od. Ow, sta. 304.335. Matt, 76,41855. od. Mad ditto, 34& b. las Wbite Peallf 47% 53% od. air kid. 44 to 411. • PRIM OP FLOUR. Fire T=/c= ;42 90s. StC9ll4O kis UP 41.1111ft/1s is l I) I 4 4 , r 4 r, is f- ft :e ;'• e- a :d e- ee kat uf wd bit al. red 3o- rhe uld I ;ett nft- tdi- of rely • I ead nne lity the the dent %ive ley; °Pet h 7 e7. The ~ of ured , we- The fhe 4 of f 33 4 I. ' e bat , lii- athet t 1 6s. Peas •' r leR • they • ! let 11t• per la 11 t