Star. — London, England, 1828-05-23 00:00:00

• t . - He bad vainly endeavoured, a fesit4enings since, to excite discussion upon it; but he was glad to find that a speedy opportunity would be afforded of discussing it fully and deliberately. Sir *AMES GthirtlAM- seedy-that -he :ins. one of . thrise Members who felt" a considerable degree of in terestin.the question. The tiabltpf inquiry in Scotland , and Ireland showed the necessity of applying it to Eng land also. .Mr. WESTERN said, that as the Right Honourable ' the Ch ancellor of the Exchequer had postponed his mo tion sine die, the House was much indebted to his Hon. Friend for bringing the subject before it. Mr. BARING said, that the observ ations upon the postponeMent of the subject seemed to be made as if the Government contemplated an entirely new measure —(Hear.) Now all that was intended was to prevent the introduction of that species of currency from Scot. land, which they had determined should not exist here. His Hon. Friend and Colleague had,entirely over-rated and exaggerated the case.' He was not insensible to the local inconvenience which must be felt by withdrawing the small remnant of small note circulation ; but if the period should ever come when they should unadvisedly return to the system from which they had depat ted, for theptirpore of giving stability and security to the cur- Miley of the comity, he should view it with the greatest possible regret. • Mr. HUME rose to protest against the regret of the Hon. Member being supposed to be geneml at the con teMplation of ft return to a paper currency. On the contrary, he for, one was convinced that at no distant period the country would be compelled to return to a sound system or paper and gold. and that the use of small notes, convertible into gold upon demand; was the very best system which could be adopted. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, be would only.ezplain why he had postponed the motion of which he bad given notice. He received an intima tion from an Hon. Baronet, that the Bill should be un detstood to be broight in without discussion, and that the 4ebate upon it should be taken upon the second reading. Upon the strength of that supposed under standing, he came down and gave his notice to the House. But since that he had ascertained that there were many who would not consent even to the bringing in of the-Bill without going into a discussion of the whole question; and as many who were parties to the firstenderstanding had made other engagements, he bad postponed the Bill for the present. Mr. S. WORTLEY thought it better that the main Itheitkid should . bi introduked upon its own merits, and tiles tacked to suth a tneeture as that which the Right Ho*. Gentleman meet to propose. • Mr. DU NDAS supported the maiotensameof a paper currency in Scotland. • - • Mr. PAIONCIt said, thin' the centertibility of one petted notes imo gold upon demand Wye thneiwistdan part of. the system.,--TlsoPetitiest was then or td be rioted.' storsrlorted of *Otto's, - 0. • - Lord Nllkir4hrt Mee for leave to bring in a Bill to i'aeto all Cities, Boro u ghs, and Cinque Ports, a registry of the names aad descriptionsof persons entitled to vote • tar 'Members of Parliament. He contended that no good tittlect could be obtained by secreiy as to the per; soils sh entitled to vote. There were.only two objects *Milt it cottldsetve, neither of which be apprehended trible hie depended by any Member of that House. v nie ;tit *as; that Monopoly of with knowledge possessed detain agents, and used for • purposes. of personal eitelonient and defiantage ; the other was the fraudulent crieatcan of *Votes and substitution of persons by Corpo- Otte elEcers at the moment of eleCtion.. The outl ine of the Ithit*ss, that a Registrar should be appointed in *Mr City or Borough, and that he shiaildbe compelled Oittida 'Court four tithes a 'yen, 'for the purpose of entering voters PropetiOualified. That a severe fine *Cold be itopOred 'for any' false entry, Or for frandu leetly erasing or &setting ingtianteu . That a - certilcate . if registration slitaild 'bbiCiiits to each niter' Coon the pail Of a neat fee, which . certificate should beheld of equal vxlise -soltb %fie' registee as evidence of qualit ' otion lie Mt:Mani its) prispose that no person should be etttitlid to vote Itittille. had been registered twelve Meisths, coleys thorigist was obtained by the purchase of toping. 'Abe 41 would provide that eripers of the g34o4be printed end circolated et a cheap rate. ;His sits, to give effect to sine chive prin eiPte4 of dig Purbati Act, and to extend it to Cities and Ikrvissoghs as s t Akas Couetiei. He did oat intend to . in sedate with any i'S.:ht of appeal or of Scrsitiar alter the eli, . fitai kis, with the undoubted privilege of that • Mouse to examine into qualitit4tions in contested cases' • Write thews; bathe did intend to put an end to the "P'Acgice of examining qualifications at the moment of taking the poll,, and the measure would bare the effect Of,producing what,he believed they wereoll agreed in. clesiting.n diminution of the time its,which polls were takers. If the Bill were allowed to pass, he believed it imolai operate as a check to the .perjury, the confusion, ilisd.tbe excesses of erect kind which now prevailed at - • awe turn comma", o,aatt.ts. 1 1. 'MACINTOSM row to brews forward Ms atotion for a Ulf* rAiisitriktee. 'to kilo* ihto lre case err* is a Veikka4 ifttiatlifod sib be Ma*, from Mr. O'Reilly,* to . 1140111Wsha. • . 14111WMMINtareadlarillWat liotwarobk Gentlamail laholber it .*movbe Maser 'foe No to ewe for the does- ; OM* ithfitdAhle'esas;oll . .klei #e irides we af..ter diey VireteohetarirtieW • - ;Or 4. 111ACEINTOSIVasoesermi.‘..41i!A oaf Mir a New of egtirtlLP Uril'esPefort • _l ter ilb:Zt -Kt * eiraMighwatifebook 1111100. 011 tlasesiwt liasift dit er aodWoff. • rtlie a heir Ortrnli lapM 'Madam *lb lbred4l4 • ' 101(1140068 it J. lit Atillkir iteel6l Ntit, %Ain lOtetafiakki s i 4titta, ehitirainekleoT tekte **Willed, in cmhietotitite' Yid vetettifettt df b ;. Mr. PiOis movee Ittertaneefehfilidd few debtla felruteitea. 'Poet St. tt.its 116 and Qtr itfg witiitceadi person ihtt fit the tuit of itte' erloddatithie ftleinhey *We adfdstutatte pet kips 'or* 'they 'ortre dohlroOd Fadt thWelawite • wet in/mute& t ias jdry df Cite! *Mk A rdithit.oodidted tifontx-ass patties, ••tortifeh , "yelirs, INA* . /110141101i041. Some ttiVitallbtattiseitted . He uuged that • city of making a law **prevent sisals cruel sufferings,' when the information *as before them. Mr. WYNN said. he had about half an hour before given notice of his intetttiutt to bring in a Bill to mend an Insolvent Act to India. Lord. ASHLEY asked if the Honourable Gentleman had not better wait for the measure, as the returns must be sent for to India. • They were certainly not in Eng- land. Mr. HUME said, that the Right Honourable Gen tleman had promised the papers, and there must have been some great want of negligence somewhere. Mr. WYNN said, that, as far as his memory served, directions had been given to have the information sent home. Mr. FERGUSON hoped the motion would be with drawn, as the inforni.ttion was not wanting to impress the House with the necessity of cOnsidering the subject. Mr. FORBES trusted that the motion would not be withdrawn, as he was sure the information would afford such a proof of suffering and misery as would induce the House to apply a remedy. Sir J. MACINTOSH said, that he had seen enough of the evils of imprisonment in Bombay to make him regret that he had not the power to lessen or correct them. He was also deeply impressed with the 'trees• sity of applying some remedy to the, evil which arose out of the defective state of the law respecting the goods of insolvents. ' After an observation from Mr.WINX, the motion was agreed is. INDIAN JUltirr. Mr. HUME then rose to move for a copy of the re gulations that have been adopted at the several Presi dencies as to natives serving an Juties.• By a clause in the Act of Palliament, all persons who were not of the Christian faith were. incapacitated from serving on Grand Juries, which by the superior classes .of the. na tives was felt tohe a great grievance, and his object in moving for the papers he had mentioned was to see bow fax the.eaperiment. as far as it had gone, had suc- ceeded. By the existing law, the lowest person .of Portuguese extraction, if he happened to proles the Christian faith, was eligible for, the office of Grand 'Juryman; - while the most respeciablerserson who was a free native, and therefore most likely of a different religion, was totally excluded. He, took that opportu nity of expressing his hope that the grievance would be removed, and also that trial by jury would soon be extended to India in civil causes., He . moved al , for a cup, of the regulations that have lbeen adopted at the several Presidencies in • India as .td natives serving on Juries," Lotd,ASHLEY said, he hOPed the .Ilettie; Consider ing the short time he had - been in office,. would exctise ' him from entering largely into the subject. With re spect to the result of natives serving ;or) Petit / furies, •no.Repott had yet been received from ladia. He was happy, however, to say, .that the letters which had been received spoke in yery high ternie 01,..the cpnduot Of the half-castes. Copies.- of the Regulations whikli.l ' had been adopted at Calentta , had.hiten veceived, :and Hat Course forwarded to the Privy. Council, in ordeil to he laid • before his ,Majesty: however, on the subject* had arrived bean Sontlatyl or Madras. Why copies -oflthe Regolutinewadopeedla those PresidenCiektiad not been racer }.b ethild hot . pretend to iay ;* bat' rhea Ace ihoolcr t Otive, 'did net apprehend there would be any objection tit)tail being laid before the-Houser: and with-respect .tab .dMft reguationi adopted at' CalcAttais they , sheutd be- laid' upon the table with. as little delay at, _Atter a ise. geoids firm hfr. : _,Cootfiromi'. s 7 ; Mr. WY-NN recommentled„to. 44; Ileali..oo4t effect of - the experiment thew makingrshisaid ' ascertained before the principle was49llt , extbitairdik practice. It would be . Min* .eiriber to MrtendOistrin . tetract... After ate* wir4i . from Mr.:Feariesonsawl Mr.,Jr Fuse% leo!: medal was agreed to. • LAW FRILS lii Mt. 'HUME said, he was Induced , tp stiike the Ino-; tipn.with which be should concltide; by he numerous complaints which had been made Upon :the subject,— The Judges in.lndia had been reqeested to interfere in behalf of the suitors and - to lower the 'feelj butithey had refused. The Hon. Member, in supporrul Sis motion, referred to a Petition from Bombay upon the subject, and said that that document Ives in *Salt sufficient to cull foranitiquiry. He moved for* copy of the table, of lees wractioned 'by the Supreme Cant in Indite, mid charged by the Officers of the Supreme Courts at Fdrt William, Fort George, . Bombay, andPiloceraf Wales Island,; alto for a Return of the salaries and emote. Mien% of veal kind 'received by the Officers, on an reeerage taken upon the last two or three years tin the gepseine Ounts of Judicature at Fort 'Wuhan', Fort St. George. Bombay, and 'Prince of Wales Island. Lord ASHLEY . aid, 'that the Courts of India, in slead of sending . home regular accounts of the tables of fees, only announced from time to time 'stich variation lin fees as were agreed upon ; and, conliquently, that there would be Freat difficulty in meeting the Howes. abbe Gentleman s motion from the.documents that were in this country. He therefore suggested that-it would be better to seed out to India for fresh tables altoglither,', rawhich he thought the Honourable Gentleman'S taw would - bee more satisfactorily met—(Hear). . Mr. FERGUSON could not agree with the statement it the liononrable Gentleman, [Namur,. so far from being any increase in the rate of -fees during the last 27 years, they bad, in rnanyinstances, diminished— (Bear, bear). He, therefore, thought that the Grand Jury had not hod so much right to complain as the Member.for Aberdeen seemed to -have supposed. It might, perhaps. be the ease that• Officers received snore from an increase .:and.Doit hour any addi in Abet ibe4iness— , (Hear). the Non. Gentleman, he he Would send one of would furniSh Site wil y/kb which 'he seemed firs. that he rase , for•the pur 'two Bills, bearing oo counts 7, bat soarer wag, . would be Unnecessary' any length to the Houle. which he purposed its-, carrying into effect the . means of church briefs-- Asian adopted for the pur.. cases of•calamitous firer ibuildingof chapels. With: !vases, be thought that the great facilities the country towards th snows of 'lnsurance Offic illn, that in punning 'they were doing her ►sat)-mmnd he certainly sootalarnsettets of Awes .adapted light to plied on suOt the retains, likewitie, thai 1 0 101 1 0 ,4 Ids tr din it val ow 4040 , 8 „ mighl, perhaps. wetly cote snot' k it chte,,li„„ the c ,,,,, 50v , : than .they did.fo ; .bin ibis teat ti 'do /kluges kid Mao ia.the business of 'the COUrt, : an k • ittolltitiolott seerunifir Owing ohmage 'that was. made .on 1 ' Idsdpi. seer* et - whisk ' • stappipes4. 21t , *AO Ilk InOtion, heviesier, , os:rh, 'titf,„ and Mr. Fiascoes, &it 40 VID ctjhetion to tt:s 'and If I 4.. , - ki , i his tecretaries col* house, he a Itiattlitlias s *DID. . 4legly ivith a copy ot rtisaifees„ n . . • ; airis ti tice, that On Friday,: tivaillses to 'be made-acquainted. ' 'ist eZPetitinaltrutt'cer., Ctittlialt Ma Ind'otheritiliabitants of Cal-: )4t4 fecterAty.PEEL, said, th s L n e 4 'of grievances tinder %Nett they) pose of askiag leave lolvring in ledie , of measettes a d d i nt d by the the subordinate economyof . theci . witick:he apprehended, that it aloe it :rduils iif the tilimber, ' ' . ilia to address himself at any tlitirtis etfe girtA of ere/Wilde - ! Thetas& cif these yoga measure a mide & ja i l .a bnibat , i ll t a d , .1 orodueirl for . the : purpose 'of es i iii7,7o - I — th e l o g o& o f yea*, isbolitidO of raising 'Mosey , by 'Ube serson his been 'confilitill, tad whe ; (Hear 4)--a practice that thad bee e'Governintin or of hutividegis. , vow of affeoding assistance , iu c tuber stated chit the tear eondedidedi lend -likewise flit aiding in the tbui tenni to be conflised for life, an .I , resOct.to *the fulmar of , theses nod to horrible sufferings from the. ihen the blouse considered th kttthe circumstances under which' were uffotdoll throughout the ft appeared from a charge to Os Aver* of COM, in D cember lest, that 4 , 'ntatosalsille avithihim, kited in that prison one huntire 'prilseht lytill.` Witii by *deli ions, some of whom had'been trier ;rads*" than twiewleibliv. hal int for nine, inure 'fur tight, ess' ittsnegist *NO Aeeethietiolvot *me of the ridfortimate 'sort ialkolltidit of Vitilltraore lat the suite of tuft One singlet,* , "tios aitiestiletkipasioasas 'Which Iniff hat the House would WC the neces• occasions—(Hen s beat).--Bgth r d freetllitn ap this subject, it would be pereettre that the espense of taislng o theso supplier* was enor , mous, end 'entirely dtspeopottioied to the collection d i d ea. made. He thought that ill these different ehm 4 Antis 1 0 shout 'the polity of abultshillg church bri:fis altogether, and thll, therefore, was the measure three - he wet *Mout to propose to the House. (Hear). —In order, hirwever, that Hon. Gentlemen might see what WO thoyeal bearing of the present system, he would take one example from the retires" %which had been' made since the 15th of hlay,' in Are tear 1819 The very first brief stated in that document was to the following effect :—the amount of the loss by fire was 3621. the areount of the sum collected was 5491...-(Hear). So that it the sufferer had received the whole thAt had been collected on his behalf, he would have been more than remunerated; but out of that sum of 5491. the charge of the patent was 911. and the expense of collect ing came to 326/. so that there only remained to cover the loss 1241—(Loud cries of hear, hear). Nor was this -toy reflection on thenaicer whose duty it was to collect the money, for the expense of printing the ptoper papers and making the necessary circulation through the coun try was very great. The raising money in this manner for the purpose of building chapels certainly was not open to the. same objection ; but at the same time it must be admitted that it was a very precarious method --(hear, hear) —as it appeared that whatever were the 'ninnies, and however urgent the demand, the amount neglected was always pretty exactly the same, averaging, from 4401. to 3391. It was on these facts that he' should ask leave of the House to bring in a Bill to re peal the Act of Anne; but at the same time he wished to support the excellent principle ut assisting the build ing of chapels by voluntary contributions ; and he should therefore, instead of the plan of church brieli; proliose the substitution of another system, entirely rest sing on voluntary contributions—(Hear) —by which ft would be arranged, that if his Majesty should think proper to issue his' letter for the purpose of inviting Sub scriptions, he proposed to incorporate that excellent Society which was called the Society for Rebuilding and Repairing Cpurchfs and Chapels, in order that it might be authorised to receive the sums so raised; and 'he was happy to have that opportunity of bearing testi mony collie utility of that Society, which, since its . first establishment, had .received voluntary contributions to •the amount of 110,0001. and by applying itself to local exertions,-where' buildings bad been proposed to be ected, had been the means of inducing parties con nected With 'Ate local interests to contribute .to the 'amount of 400P001. so that the total amount was up esaids of 500,0001.; and the object of the Society being to provide accommodation for the people, it had, by a judicious application of the 110,0001. he had. mentioned, provided.. free ,seats for 154,000 persons—(Hear)— Without giving any fresh power to this excellent Society, he mereiy•proposed to incorporate it, in -order, that it might be- authorked to receive such sums as **tele raised by voluntary contributions, legacies, or übscriptions arising. from his Majesty's letters: and in Order that the Laymen of. the country might be con :meted with the Society as well as the Clergy, he pro. .osed that, in addition to the Bishops of tht . yarious •Dioceises.the Vice Presidents should consist of twenty- See lay-members. It gave him pleasure to be able to mtw•that alter accomplishing all this benefit, the annual . pence of the Society, including the rent of premises, wslaries, &c. Would not amount to more than'B4ol: la conchrsion..the Right Hon. Gentleman moved for, leave to bring Ma Bill to abolish .Church Briefs, and to provide teethe better - collection of voluntary contri butions tolarde the building and repairing of Churches and Chapels. • • . Sta'JOßist. NEWPORT. wished .to know whether this measure was to apply to Ireland? for he thought that, lf resent there was great mistnanagenient• in the .assiitser,iSi.which rues and' sobscriptions werelaised itit ttsaa congest:* He knew of one parishin Dublin, Where,. fehilethere'had been a Select Vestry,Ahe rates had amounted to 2,3001.. and when an open Vestry of the .pariabioneri was appointed,, They uMountedAo . no more than 1 22915....-and in another perish he had met with ant itsitanee ofa.Clergyman, who wat•-perhapi receiving at the rate of 6001. or 8001. a year for his services. and yet had the cpsnicience charge•the parish with the expense of his surplices—(A laugh). But then they were told that they bad a right-of appeal to the Magistrate 4 they were dissatished ; but he contended that that was no right at 'all ; for when appeal's were' mad it Was found that the Magistrates were little-disposed to listen' tnthe complaints•contained in those appeals.- t The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he. had certainly been taken by surpri - se by the Right Honoerable . Baronet's introducing - a discussion 'on the Irish Vestry Act. The Right Hon. Gentleman . had, on a former occasion, mentioned a 'case of appeal that had takes the. County of Ferns, when he complained that the Magistrates had taken no nMise of :thetomplaint made in that appeal; and he (the Chan kalkor of the Exchequer) had; in 'consequence, taken Abe paw s to write to the Session;, of that 'County ; and, from the docuMent that he receiredan reply, it 'appeared that the Magistrates had not _only ,Leceiveal the appeal, but had directed a deduction to - be made in the charges, which were for Bibles and Prayer Books; and he was glad to have an opportunity of mentioning this inaccu racy of the Right Honourable Baronet, as it would serveto guard the House against the charge which the ' *Right Honourable Baronet had brought that evening against the Magistrates of Dublin: LUSHINGTON said that he entirely agreed in the propriety of the Right Hon. Gentleman's (Mr. Peel's) motion, as it was manifest that the mode of raising money, by church Wets was inadequate, as the expense, be believed, greatly exceeded the net amount received. . Mr. PEEL—Oh, yes; three times, at least. Dr. LUSHINGTON said, that - such being•the case,' be concurred in the propriety of abolishing the system; and he thought that the country was much indebted to the Right Hon. Gentleman for his propOsition for in corporating a Society, most excellent in its pi inciples, most beneficial in its effects—and one that reckoned among its supporters some of the most dignified Mem- . bets of the Established Church—(Hear, hear.) Mr. G..MOORE defended •the Magistracybf the City of Dublin from the imputations of the Right Honour able Member for Waterford (Sir John Newport). He declared that he was convinced the Magistrates of Dub lin, whether of the City or of the Police, %sere ;mob., noxious to charges of the nature brought against theM by the Right Honourable Baronet, and that they had never unjustly considered, or unfairly decided any ap.l peal upon the -subjrct of a Church rate. He thought the• Right Honourable Baronet ought to have been able to produce some instance of ,misconduct in the Magis trates before he made such an accusation. It was. possible for him, hciwevee, to remain silent, when he knew the charges to be so wholly unfounded. Aldermen WOOD said, that briefs for the last fifty years had been farmed by contractors; and that.was, limbo why they produced only ',3001. although they were4ated at 1000f.or 17001. As'for what were called the Walking Briefs, they produced a great deal more ~ than the Church ariert, - beelillt 4lt e the Churchwardens ORA "the Beadles, with their gold laced hats and gold headed antes, and all the paraphernalia of their office, actually Witt round, and teazed the inhabitants nut of their Osoney— (A laugh). The Worthy Alderman, after ob ',vying upon the objectionable nature of this tax .upon she porde, expressed his thanks to.. the Right Gentleman for its abolition. Mr. Secretary PEEL, in reply said, that it was by . intention toiepeal the Act of Qdeen Anne shoo k's.; He thought the Worthy Alderman must be misinformed as to the farming of the Briefs; for any one gulity et ' that offence was liable, by law, to a penalty of 5001....., (Alderman Wood said across the- table, that he *neer one of the farmers). The contribution to the Society he (Mr. Peel) proposed, was wholly voluntarily, and as the • donation of twenty guineas made a member,for life. and. . entitled the giver to be one of the Committee, the War— • thy Alderman would have an opportunity of placing himself in a situation to superintend the affairs of the Society. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir John New.port) had talked whether his Bill was intended to apply to Ireland? Now he really was obliged to say, that he . had so many matters relating to England to engage hi, attention, that it was quite impossible for him to un. dertake the management of those relating to beim!, There were many cases, however, where his measures • 'had been brought into operation in Ireland. The Amendments of the Criminal Laws, for instance, we t . about to be extended to that country ; but he Inuat any . • once for all, that the pressure of his official duties did to t positively leave him time for the application of his attention rn Ireland. Sir JOHN NEWPORT reminded the Right Hon. Gentlemnin that he was Secretarrof TAT listate Depart. ment ; and }toped the Right flon.4.;entWpa4l ',mild not consider'lteland as not included in those countries to' which his dutycalled upon him to apply his attention. Mr. Secretary PEEL, repeated his first observation; but declared his readiness to co-operate with those indi- Tidos& immediately connected with the administratiOn of the affairs of Ireland.—Leave was then given to bring in.the Bill. RECOVER/ 01 SMALL DEBTS. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, he had another measure to introduce of as great importance as the last. It was , a-Bill, the object of which was to facilitate the recovery . • of small debts—(Hear.) —At present the expense of-the proceedings in the Superior Courts was so gteat, that persons often forbore to enfotie their rights rather that go to law. This was so obvious an evil, that many . remedies had. been proposed to do away with it. Some 'Bills were under the Consideration of the House by . a Noble Lord (Althorp) for that purpose, and it wet in consequence of the desire that Noble I.4;rd had last Sri. sion expressed, chat he (Mr. Peel) now endeavoured Id ' ascend our law in this important particular. One of the prepoied plans was the appointment of Assessarsi• with it salary of 8001. or 9001. to. preside in thee', Country.Xcrtutt... Some counties that were so small.- as not to g need an Assessor' exclusively were to joid' tatters,' 'and 'have one beta een them. The satari, of ,the Asiessorswas proposed to be raised tipint,, the sounty or district, or to he paid out of the fees,r. that Might be collected in- the CoosCoost•itself. Objections.l were rinsed to the appOintment of the Assessor being he , : the Lord.Lieutenatit, and, therefoie, it was vested the 'Croft. • Another plan was for the present Judges.. of the insolvent Courts to make Circuits'. round • lbw conntri'for thetrial of - actions for the recovery of Auk' debts. :There were other plans but objections offered to all Of them. That which henow preposeilwAt• founded entirely upon a different principle frost any.ef then): The .Bill he proposeatointioduceto the emdisier- - ,. irenetthe. Heine enlarged ; the jurisdiction 'Of tbeCotintiv . L•ourts.b l ,o34o4.os. to• 10/. . From the able assistancehe• had hadia.thelorming• of. it, he did not doubt that its details 'would be found eaten Wed to attain toe' object be had in . view. It made no alteration in the COW ' isitution Ofithe County Conks, but simply enlarged OW pourers. It gesso the forms of proceeding,.fized the fees. .ensihied.Magisirates at the Quarter Sessions, where tbie :county; Wits line, to divide it into . disti icts, requiredthe • Courts to be held within certain periods of time, and; that Sheriffs should give notice of those periods.; It: prekided a trial by Jury iii (best lrotsrts, the qualifira • tiosagtheJuror tolie the same as those of Jutymakf. shammed at Nisi Prius at Westminster Hill, and. chit: the Jury should consist of five. He did not at present propose to require unanimity in the Jury. The 134 further empowered the Court to grant new trials, and provided that the remedy should be against the goods,. and not. the ,person—(Cneers).—Ttte remedy. . against the goods was not, however, to be confined to goods belonging to the party in the county, but was to extend to goods he might have in any part of Eng land. As, however, the Bill would .** much better understood by a reference to itself thanituf-sectonnt fe : could give of it, he Would leave Hon. Medibers to cen! silt it. The only part of it which hi thOught it spOssibie might excite opposition, was . that which related to the compensation to be given to those who-hadvested in terests that would be affected. It was tleir that many causes would be tried before the County' Courts, which would otherwise come before the superior Courts of Common Law. Certain Officers of those. Courts would of course be materially affected by this. He was sorry that offices should exist of a nature to thr ow impediments in the way of improvements in the law, but'Parliainent had always held that where persons who held offices for life were affected by any change,- that they should receive compensation. Of course, %hawser expense vas incurred by ;hist would cease with the lives oT those who held the specimof office to which he had alluded. Ibis principle hattattiays hitherto been. acted upon, hoped the introduction of a clause acting upon it in th ls Bill would not be objected to. The Right Honourab le 'Gentleman concluded by moving for ' , leave to bring in a Bill to facilitate the Recovery of Small O e bts in the County Courts, and for enlarging the jurisdictio n of the same in England and Wales. a nd , be. 'file motion having been read, Mr. HUME rose—He was glad to hear that it was the property and not the person seat was to be attached. Nothing could be more contrary to common sens e or justice than arrest, and he trusted that the R ight Hon. Gentleman having acknowledged the goodness of the principle, for which he had so long contended, up to IV would not object to go further. Now 'll4 they Nam' Law Commissions sitting, he trusted the Right Ron. Gentleman would think it a good oppottueitY fo r them to take into consideration the propriety of aboii shie g arrest on mesne process. Mr. Secretary PEEL replied,. that one Com missioi was appointed to examine into the state of the S u p erior Courts of Common Law, and the other into the law as regarded real property. He did not apprehend thatit 'was intended that either of these Commissions should inquire into the policy of confinement for debt on messie process, and as they had some very important subjetts to investigate, he thought that the feis they weres`lis tracted by extraneous mutters the fritter. would . Mr. D., W. 11 t RVEY said. ihaLsiothing e' r eceived with mote.graiificittroO the coontty In4"' this Bill, and he trusted that the valuable principle re" 11.4