Star. — London, England, 1825-02-24 00:00:00

', . ,•:* formed, down came an Honourable and Learned Friend of his, anxious for the fate of the Bill, with all the forces he could muster in favour of it. He had not been scrupulous in• whom he got to perform this service. It was no matter to him, so he gamed his Bill, whether they had heard the evidence adduced before the Com mittee or not. He , had swept all the Committees with his influence, and actually got twenty Members to out vote their sixteen. Therefore it was that he said he would never vote upon a private Bill at the mere in stance of a friend. Canvassing for votes in this shame lers manner was contrary to the laws of the country, where the property of private individuals was concerned. The Members of that House represented all interests, including their own ; and it was obvious that no Hon. Member, as an honest man, could reconcile it to his conscience to vote away the interests of others at the' mere suggestion of a friewd. He had no objection to Hon. Gentlemen voting upon private Bills. GOD forbid be should—there was no other way of conducting busi ness. But he contended that every man ought to weigh well both sides of the question, examine the matter pro and can, and look as scrupulously into the merits of the case as he would be tempted to do were his own personal interests involved in it—( Hear, hear). It was not to be decided because A.B. asked him to vote one way, and C. D. or the wife of C. D. or the sister of the same personage, asked him to vote another—(Hear), and he hoped those who cheered him in this sentiment would be prepared to go along with him in some measure which should satisfactorily establish the practice of the House in a more conscientious manner. As to the limits of any such measure, that would be a subject for graver consideration. If the principle were good in private cases, it was much more imperative where public in terests were concerned. For instance, what right could Lords of the Admiralty have to vote upon the motion of his Hon. Friend, the Member for Newcastle, who s ished to suppress one of them ?—(Hear). Why ould Borough-ownet s be allowed to vote against Parliansen tary Reform? Again, how could it be tolprated that those who fattened upon the public money should join their influence in crushing any motion for the retrench ment of the public purse? In the case too of his Hon. Frienda he M embet for Wareham(Mr.Calc ra ft),whose mo tion for the repeal of the Salt Tax was almost carried in spite of opposition,was it right that those who had brothers quartered upon salt i and because this motionwent to take ask from theirporridge —was it right, he would ask, that they should be allowed to vote against it ?—(Hear, and a lamb). He hoped upon those grounds that Hon. Members who would not allow Members to vote upon private Bills in which they were interested, would go a step further with him, and exclude those also who had a direct interest in any public measure—( Hear. hear). Mr. BYNG concurred in the opinion that Hon. Members should not vote - upon measures in which their own interests were involved. Mr. BARING considered the subject as one of the utmost importance to the character of the House, of which every one, he was sure, would feel the full value. No one who had been a twelvemonth Member of that House could fail to have been shocked with the manner in, which the private business was conducted—(Hear, A Mr).. It was inJeed the most disgraceful exhibition a civilized 'country could present—(Hear). Every ques tion was decided, not upon its own merits, but upon the influence which its projectors possessed. That was notorious all over the country, but still it was shocking to see the way in which evidence was overturned. If any one in that House were to say to 'another, " You are to be on such a Jury : now I have a case coming on, will you belt iend it with your vote ?"-..Would any man of honour be able to sit under the implied imputa tion?—(hear, hear). Yet was not this daily the case in that House ? He did not mean to say he had never voted upon a private Bill ; but he could safely say he bad never done so without first making himself ac quainted with the subject upon which he was to vote. He should have been ia satisfied with himself had he given a dishonest vote. While the proceedings of that House exhibited such disgiaceful practices, it would be impossible to leave die matter where it was. Some alteration must take place, and certain he was, that any mode must be better than the existing one: In the election of a Committee, a power might be granted to either party to strike out a certain number whom they might know to be adverse. Resort might be had to ballot ; but if all suggestions should be unavailing, then, in justice to the subjects of the country, that House ought to give up, or have taken from it the power of transacting private hosinese—{Hear). In measures where the in itetwats of individual Members were concerned, it warldibe more to the bosom of Matadairs to avoid being challenged by chancre's( theasseiveir(liear). He hoped mime means would be takes so remedy the whole Colonel DAVIESIte differed from the Honourable Member - who spoke last. He thought that if the right of managing the private business were taken away from them, the rights of their constituents wash, be infringed. As their Represen. taken they could not abandon table privilege in this respect. As to making any change, they would plunge into deeper difficulties by the attempt. Mr. CALCRAFT said he could not go to the extent of his Honourable Friends in censuring the conduct of Members in regard to Private Bills—(ifear, hear). He believed there was a great deal of canvassing for votes, and that a great number of persons did vote without being masters of the case. But so long as there existed confidence between man and man, this sort of influence would be exercised ; and if the Members of this House were not fit for the discharge of that part of their duty, what would become of those more important duties which their constituents sent them there to transact ? For his part, he had never heard any discontent ex pressed about Private Bills, that had passed the House, and let there be as much jobbing as there might, in pri• vate Committees, it was still in the power of the House to over• rule their decision. He did not deny the exist ence of the evil, but maintained that there were proper checks established against that sort of jobbing, which, however, he denied to exist in that degree o lich had been imputed to them. To say that no man should ask his friends, over whom he had some influence, to come down and vote upon any particular measure, was to say, that no man should place confidence in the judgment of another. Cases had occurred in that House, of Bills being re d the manner in which they bad . ant that be done again, remedy for the evil? if in private Committees, turned off, and others mote He knew very well the saajorldes In that Hesse ; but he ea up stairs. The tent= b a: COMniittee ; and if a —t was asked of him in a Cons eorrept Umber of that Hems. another tribes:all for this bed. • anythind they were fit to be Acte..(Hear). at hii on. Friend iMr. r Members voted for y were not acquainted, ail neither evidence nor arris•J pealed in consequence of the am been obtained ; and why thould i and considered as a standing Tel it e jo w n r s e so. el t ette a m ei be r duty tu ii rte competent got in their stead. 11 1 f 1 i b l ar sila r i t rau ". l: ks. b Cooltrara l , k ; I was waists Ilswathan to the Goa Y wow swift w wasp On favour that a . J J. . witana o lat wady walthe a vary canal Bli Howerallie Mead talked et NW mass, bat wasil4,U dray WI NN fit foe as triatai with Warm sad Tampa, A t Mr. BILIGHT olosataati that Calcraft) admiued that many N i with the merits of which tiny w upon which they had beard neit . _ _ Posaot. He wished for no other aansission to shew th' I:le asesseity if thi s . beim; abolilhad, The Hon. Member talked of relnOmils bu was their no eipssele attached to this made arsteeeding? A Hon. Member had asked whether they were to desert the in to est of their Cosseitnents7 He answered, cart 1y sots all that, s asked of their, was to desert their own interests:whenever Apt, should happen to be involved in any part of their public duty. :He hoped the natter would not be allowed to rest hare. Mr. HUME gave notice, that on Friday next he would submit a propneitipit to_the_House to determine how fiii it had .bttn. the custom of Parliament to dis qualify Members from voting upon measures in which they had a direct pecuniary interest. He thought he should be able to produce ample authority, which he trusted wessialsaft the matter at rest. As to the difficulties of the ems, be thought it would be better to re-appohat the Committee of last year, which had to enquire into the merits of this and similar ques tions. Sir M. W. RIDLEY observed, that too much stress had been •laid on the conduct of the House with regard to private Bills. Although the Objectiots appeared theo retical, yet it applied only to the manner of conducting these Bills. The Committee of last year bad taken con siderable pains to sift this subject. The appointment of Conimittees by ballot had been proposed, but so many objections were so successfully started to that mode, that it really appeared almost impracticable. Their only way, heapprehended, was to leave it to the ho nourable feelings of Members—(Hear, hear). He had letters about him on this subject, which, were he to ex pose them, would bring shame upon the patties from whom th'ey proceeded. They were not from the indi viduals concerned, but from persons connected with those concerned, He did not know how far he was authorized to shew those letters, but he was sorry to say, that they were of a nature that would blow any measure to which they alluded out of the House. It was these things that cast disgrace upon the transaction of private business. Mr. BARING thought, that it his Hon. Friend had any letters in his pocket that would blow Hon. Mem bers out of the House, it was his duty not to conceal them. Sir- M. W. RIDLEY explained, that he had no docu ments in his pocket to blow Members out of the House, he spoke of measures—(A laugh). Leave was then granted to bring in the Bill wired for. Sir J. STEWART presented a petiti from the Nobility, Gentry, and inhabitants of the County of Tyrone against the Ca tholic claims. Colonel WHITE presented a Petition from certain park:n.6 in Dublin. praying that the Bill for the Suppression of the Catholic Association might not pass into a law. Similar petitions were presented from the County of Meath, Skibbereen, and liardcastle—Ordered to lie on the table. Mx. CURTEIS moved for some returns relative to the fines levied by the Commissioners of Sewers.—Ordered. Mr. L A MBTON presented a Petition from the Shipowners of Sunderland, praying fur a repeal of the duty on Seaborne Coals. Similar petitions were presented from Rye and Ashworth—Or dered to lie on the table. Mr. KNIGHT presented a Petition from Rye, praying fur a repeal of the Assessed Taxes. Similar petitions were presented from Newcastle-on& and the Parish of Shoreditch—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. WARRE presented a Petition from the Inhabi tants of Taunton, complaining of the operation of the Land Tax. Mr. HEltilES defended the Land Tax; its mode of operation was well known, having been established for a century and a quarter. The execution of the Act depended on certain Commissioners who wet e ap pointed for that purpose, and made regular returns. Mr. BARING said, that the shopkeepers of Taunton were arbitrarily assessed, by the Commissioners of the Land Tax, upon their stuck in trade. Mr. IIUNIE condemned the system under which the Land Tax was levied. Mr. CALVERT and Sir ROBERT W 11.8014 concurred in the view taken by the lion. Members, who supported the Petition. ' Mr. HERRIES said, that he had undertaken last Session to produce some measure which should obviate the evil which was occasionally felt in the mode of Assessment. He was now ready to redeem his pledge, and he should propose the introduction of a measure, which would place in the hands of the Treasury a controuling power over the whole Assessment. The House must be aware that the Treasury bad greet difficulty in dealing with this matter. Mr. BARING and Mr. Hammes mutually explained, and after a few observations from Mr. WARIII4 Mr. CURIOS, and Mr. W. SMITH, the Petition was ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed. Mr. HUME moved for returns of Naval Officers promoted from 1824 to 1825; also a return of the Officers on half-pay and full-pay in January, 1224, and January, 1325; also a return of the ships launched, and whether built under cover or not.—Ordered. Mr. BROUGHAM moved for leave to bring in a Bill to *mend the Act for regulating the Practice of Apothecaries. One of the inconveniencies he proposed to remedy was, the necessity at the Assizes of bringing a witness from London to prove the certificate of the Court of Assistants of the Apothecaries Company; and also to remedy certain abuses in granting diplomas by some of the Irish and Scotch Universities. Mr. CROKER entirely agreed in the necessity of the measure, for the purpose of relieving the diplomas granted by all the Scotch and Irish Universities from the taint of suspicion which at present attached to them. Leave was given to bring in the Bill. The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and the House adjourned at Sxvis o'CLocc. Line, PERU. Head-quartersbt Chuquibanzba, October 4,1824. TO THE MINISTER-GENERAL OF THIS AFFAIRS OF PERU, DON JOSE SANCHEZ CARRION. The army advances without - interruption, though without any remarkable event since it left Huamange. This arises from the Spaniards continuing to avoid an engagement, though at the expense of great losses. We are masters of the-Apurimac, whose bridges have been carried off or b!oken down by them, with the exception of that of Scope, at which they maintain a detachment. It is probable that it will share the same fate as the rest, on the approach of a party of our troops which has been sent to occupy it. His Excellency the Liberator has in person reconnoitred and traversed the whole banks of that river, and has ordered the construction of some bridges and rafts—an order which is executing with activity. Thus will the greatest of the obstacles which the Spaniards have been able to oppose to the advance of the Liberator's army be removed. His Excellency has received certain intelligence, that General Valdez has had a very' serious engagement with a division of General Olaneta, near Potosi; that fortune has been equally hostile to the enemy in the South ; and that General Olaneta is pursuing Valdez, who has abandoned to the conqueror the provinces of Up per Peru. But the conduct of our enemies in leaving the country which suffered under their tyranny, is worthy. of re mark. They have shot all their soldiers who were un able to proceed from the effects of fatigue, and even the sick in the hospitals, who were not able to follow them. We have seen more than two hundred dead in their line of march, and the inhahitants of this town have informed us of the assassination of the patients of the nine hospitals which they had here, and of other five at Abancay. His Excellency is highly satisfied with the enthusiast* with which the-people receive him and his liberating troops. His army • has everywhere received the most _._ -~-- THE EVENING STAR LONDON. THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 24., 1825. NIATTHILAS. THE FUNDS • STOCK EXCHANGE, TWELYS O'CLOCK. Consols opened at 93i to 94, for the Account, with little doing, They are now at 94 buyers. FOREIGN' FUNDS. In the Foreign 'Market, little is doing this morning; South American Stock and Alining Shares are somewhat improved. Current Prices: New Spanish 19, Old 231 1, Russian 971 1, Mexican 801 1, - Colombian New 901 911, French Scrip 151 16, Austrian 971 j. Chilian 1391 90, Brazilian Scrip 41, Mexican Scrip all, Greek 571.181, Greek Scrip 11. SHA RKS. £lOO 100 40 100 Alliance Assurance Anglo Mexican Mines - United Mexican ditto - Colombian ditto Pasco Peruvian ditto - Brazilian ditto Buenos Ayres ditto - Anglo Cbiban 100 - PAID. !RIC* 70. DAY. £lO se 10 130 "135 10 145 150 5 38 39 37 38 5 15 16 26 27 pin 11k 12 The first draught of the Bill for suppressing unlaw ful Societies in Ireland, was given in -the STAR of Thursday last; it has now been printed with the blanks filled up, and as amended by the Committee. By this Act every Society or other body of persons acting for redress of grievances in Church or State, or "for the purpose or under the pretence of carrying on or assisting in the prosecution or defence of causes civil or criminal," renewing its meetings for more than 14 days, or col lecting or receiving money, is declared unlawful. The passage we have put in inverted commas was added by the Committee. All persons offending are deemed guilty of a misdemeanour, and may be punished by fine and imprisonment. Persons knowingly per mitting any meeting of such unlawful assemblies in their houses, are, for the first offence, to forfeit the sum of five pounds ; and, for a second offence, to be deemed guilty of an unlawful combination and confederacy in breach of this Act. The following Clause was added by the Committee: " And be it further enacted,That any society, committee, or adiar body of persons in Ireland, assuming, or in any manner or by any means or contrivance exercising the power of acting, for the purposer or under the pretences aforesaid, or any of them, which society, committee, or other body ,of persons, or the members thereof, or any of them, shall appoint, authorize, employ, or make use of any committee or other select body, or any member or members of such committee, or other select body, or any president, secretary, delegate, agent or other officer or member theretofore, within the space of six calendar months next preceding, appointed, authorised, employed or used by any society, committee, or other body of persons, which would have been an Unlawful Combination and Confederacy, if the meetings or proceedings thereof had been continued or renewed by adjourn ment or otherwise, for a longer term than fourteen days from its first meeting, shall be deemed an Unlawful Combination and Con federacy within the meaning of this Act, and the meeting thereof shall be Unlawful Assemblies." The Act commences ten days after it shall be passed, and not sooner, and is to continue in force two years. Papers relating to the Burmese war have been pre sented to both Houses of Parliament, and printed by order of Government. A letter from the GOVERNOR GENERAL in Council to the Secret Committee, dated the 21st of November, 1823, opens the subject by stating the manifestation of hostile dispositions on the part of the Burmese, their claims to the island of Shah pooree, and their threats to punish by force of arms the occupation of that island by the British. His Ex- cordial welcome; and the eiforts which the people' make for 'their liberty are admirable. His Excellency desires that you will publish the intelligence through the liberated provinces. (Signed) General ANDRAO SANTA CRUZ. P.S. Communications have been received from the Commandant-General of the South Coast, at Yea. He assures us he was marching towards the capital, in force. ANOTHER DISPATCH. Head-quarters in Chuquibamba, the 4th of 0et.1824. TO THE MINISTER OF THE REPUBLIC OF PERU, DON JOSE SA NCHEZ CARRION. The enemy has passed to the other bank of tl'e Apu lima; abandoning all the country on this side of the river, from south to north, and, judging by his move ments, it would be supposed that he retreats towards the mountains. The army of the Liberator has in con sequence occupied the free country, which contains some of the provinces of the department of Cuzco, co vering and watching the line of the Apurimac. There daily come into us soldiers, whose desertion has increased in proportion to the length of march. On the 11th of August, there was a serious affair in Laba, between the vanguard of General Olaneta and the divi sion of General Valdez, who, according to accounts which we hare received; was carried off severely wounded. The public papers, signed by Olaneta, leave no doubt that he has become the irreconcileable enemy of the Spanish Chiefs. From the last accounts received by his Excellency from Colombia, he learns, that in July there were on their march towards Panama, 10,000 veterans, who had been solicited by his Excellency to assist him in Pace. Every day the Intendant of Guayaquil expected frdm the • Isthmus 4,000 men and 8,000 English muskets. The corvette Limena had transported from Panama to Guayaquil, the celebrated squadron of Venezuelian lancers, and 20,000 English muskets. This corps, and these arms, wrist already have arrived on these coasts, according to the letters of the Intendant. The inhabitants of this part of Peru shew more and more every day their love for the sacred cause of their country, shewing equal gratitude for, the eminent ser vices of his Excellency, and the brave men who support the rights of the human race in the existing contest. It v, consequently, easy to see, that while the army of the Liberator reigns in the hearts of the people, it wants for nothing necessary for its subsistence or convenience. It would, therefore, be madness, in present circumstances, to doubt for a moment of the speedy and complete liberation of :he Republic. This is communicated fur your satisfaction, and that of all the people. THOMAS DR HERBS. Interim Secretary. • ice:llency Concludes an akpression of I fear that the existing circumstances may probably result in wir. This outline of affairs continues through the second - dispatch, which is dated the 9th of January, 1824, and describes in general terms a good deal of angry corret. spondence on both sides. A third communication, dated the of tebrustm laments that affairs had taken an unfavourable tor*. We had evacuated the island (a worthless, miserablx, and unwholesome spot); and a treacherous outrage was committed on some of the Company's naval Officers', who visited the Burman shore by invitation. Satisfac tion for this was demanded by us, and refused; and in the meantime hostilities commenced on the Sylhet frbn: tier,which had been approached by two corps of Burmese: On the 24th of February, a long declaration woo published by the Government of Calcutta, containing a recital of grievances which we had suffered from the King of AVA, and . announcing a movement of the British troops by order of 'the GOVERNOR-GENERAL, against the dominions and forces of that Monarch. A Suppkmental Gazette, published yesterday, con tains an extract of dispatches from the GOVERNOR.. GENERAL of India, dated the 14th of last July, and 6th of September, and enclosing statements of (rivers occurrences which had taken place on the Burmese ter ritory down to the setting-in of the wet season, by which all military operations wets of necessity interrupted. The first four of these reports relate to proceedings on the Chittagong frontier during the month of May—. partial and indecisive, but successful so far as they went ; and satisfactory from the evidence they afforded of the spirit and enterprise of our troops corn pared w ith those of the enemy. Lietitenant GUY, of the Company's ma rine, Lieutenant-Colonel RICHARDS, and Captain HORSEBURGH, were the officers in command on those occasions. The fifth dispatch is from Brigadier-Ge neral CAMPBELL, at Rangoon, giving an account of The action with the Bur mans, who attacked our position on the 2d of July with a force of 12,000, when they were completely repulsed with great slaughter, and little difficulty or loss on our part. Our Readers may recol lect, that we published neatly three months ago, a lull account of the above operation, the official nat rative of which appears not to have arrived through the ordi nary channel, and is now taken from 'I he Calcutta Ga zette of July 29. The treat document is from Sir A. CAMPBELL also, dated eleven days after the former, and-describes the disastrous nature of the overthrow which the enemy had received. The concluding dispateh, lion) the same Officer, re• ports an expedition up the Syriam river—already known to the public—which terminated in the capture, with out loss, of an enemy's post, and some artillery and ammunition. Sir A. CAMPBELL states in one of his dispatches, that the Prince of SARRAWADDY was said to be advancing towards his position, with 70,000 men. A Supplement to the London Gazette was published yesterday, containing dispatches relative to the Bur mese war, but their contents were anticipated by pre vious arrivals from the East Indies. We have received GertZs Papers to the 18th inst. One of them states that sonle insurrectionary movements have taken place in Servia, but it is said they are rather 'directed against Prince Mitosmi, the local Govern• , than against the Turkish Government. The following ',are extracts: SEMLIN, FEERUARY s. The affairs of Servia seem to take a more serious ! turn than was at first supposed. From the beginning ti of the Greek revolution, similar attempts in Servit were apprehended, but as Prince Milosch powerfully upheld the interests of the Porte, tranquillity was preserved. Though we are not acquainted with the particulars of the discontents now prevailing, the reports agree that the oppression under which the people suffer, has been increased by the late changes in the value of the current coin, and has rendered Prince Milosch, who was always considered as covetous, still more hated. The first tumult seems to have been on the 22d of January, near Semandria, where the people threw a Commandant ince prison, and plundered his property. Milosch is reported to have gone to Semandria, to re store order, with three thousand men. Other letters from Nissa say, the Servians had sent a deputation to Corstantinople, protesting their fidelity to the Porte, but soliciting redress of their grievances. FEBRUARY 4. 1 New and alarming reports from Servia seem to have been received at Belgrade, as travellers who have come hither say that the Turks are in great consternation. — At present it is said the insurrectionary movement is directed against Milosch and some chiefs. The Sei - vians demand from Milotch an account of his twelve years administration. Hambnrgh Paper to- th inst. reached us this forenoon. ,The following are Extracts : MUNICH, FEBRUARY 7. There is a report that the Government will make use of a rigrit reserved to it in the Constitution, and refuse • to six individuals, holding offices, permission to accept the functions of Deputies in the Second Chamber, to which they have been elected. Of four whose names are mentioned, three were, in the last Session, in Eke Opposition. HAMBURGH, FEBRUARY Is. In an invitation published on the 12th, and ad dressed to all the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Hanover, soliciting contributions, his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambtidge has placed himself at the head of t he Central Committee, for the support of the sufferers by the inundations. As far as could be known from the accounts received in Stade up to the 10th, there were in the Duchy of Bremen, ani the District of Hadehi, about 700) hpu:es under water, ;mil for the most part