Star. — London, England, 1819-06-24 00:00:00

Mintin order Lord REDESIMLE said it would be. impossible for the Bank to resume Cash-payments, until there was a sufficient- circulation of money in the country. ifthe Bank were allowed to act on its old system of discomainl bills, it would have , plenty of cash ; but, as loi,g as arg: ;ums were °wilt by the Government to the Bank, this could not be done. The great dis tress of the Bank was occasioned by the advances which the Bank hadbeen making to the Government, and that was the cause of the distress the Bank had fallen into in 1;97; and before payments 'could be made in cash, there must be a certain quantity of cash brought into the country. Therefore, if it was intended to resume Cash-payments at the time pro .posed, this clause must be adopted. The Earl Of LIVERPOOL said it had always been • the interest of the Bank to keep up the gold at such a prier, as to put it out of the power of persons to take gold'to the Mint to be,coined; so that the Bank always had the. monopoly of. the coin. He should deprecate the redaction of paper circulation by the Bank, but-if they did so, althoughit would be a great evil, it would cause such a reduction in the price of gold that the evil would soon be remedied.—The clause was then agreed to. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said,. he felt it neces sary to make an explanation respecting what had fallen from him on a former day, when he stated that there was no intention on the part of the Government to make any more loans during the • contintiance of the peke He meant to say, that there should be no loan except the five millions which were to be paid to the Bank, and which must be raised by a loan. Lord HOLLAND wished to know whether it was intended to repeal the Acts passed five or six year( ago, which had the effect of making Bank notes a legal tender. The Earl of LIVERPOOL—" Certainly not." The Bill was then read a third time,and passed. The Lottery Bill went through the Committee, and the other Bills before the House being read in their stages, the Howe ad. journed at seven o'clock. • HOUSE OF COMMONS. A Petition was presented from Andover, praying for a Pro.' tecting Duty against the Importation of Foreign Corn.—Read, and ordered to lie on the table. Serjeant ONSLOW obtained leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Law relative to the accepting of Bills of Exchange. Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW moved for leave to bring in a Bill to regulate the admission, of Attornies in the Courts of Law. The intention of the Bill w j to abridge the term preparatory to ad. three years. He did not at present know whether it advisable to extend the provisions of the Bill to Ire aye tven. IKE (of Norfolk) presented a Petition from certain the County of Norfolk, complaining of the pressure and especially of the Malt 'Tax, and proposed the of a graduated Income Tax, which should not ex / tsersons whose incomes were under JE - 500 a-year. ,'EAKER said, that if the Petition was against any of Taxes it could not be received. Petition wan therefore withdrawn. CASE OF DE.•LEMPRIERE. ,BER FORCE, Pursuant to nbtice, presented a Pe. . Dr. Lempriere. The Petitioner stated, that he had several years Master of the Grammar School of Exeter; iring his labours in this important truat, he had raised of the school considerably, as *a4 manifested fig, of the pupils. He complained, tat some short time difference having taken place between him and certain istees, he was finally dismissed' from the offich The is proceeding be was unable to'cliscover, unless it was the Trustees had a son, whom it was proposed to the office—a person froin his years anti attalnmenti, qualified for its duties. The Trustees, subsequent ~tranaactloo, had unanimously declared, that neither in -, inattention, nor Irregularity, could be charged against ad Gentleman. He knew at the same time, that It ' his power to seek reclreas.from the House " of Coen. was material that the Honourable House should he of the extent of grievances to which systems of ad. i of Charity Schools similar to that of Exeter, give ..e.Pstition was then brought up aod read. COT RTENAY justified the Interference of the Trustees, that no one was more competent to discharge the 'Office, than the person appointed to succeed Dr. He moved that the Petition be rejected. RENFELL, after remarking upon the great length of `n this affair had taken up, upon a day wheri there were 19 Orders ache Day, and five or six Notices of Mn that he Would not have intruded himself en the *ma ne Horse, but that happening to be In the neighbour.. .. Exeter last year, he was enabled to declare that it wet unanimous opinion of all ranks in that neighbourhood. that bad acted with the utmost propriety in the dia.. Lemprfere, and In appointing the Gentleman they successor. • • RAVES eocieborated this statement. • ;ASTLEREAGH said, that as the Petition contained charge against the Trustees, the admission of it would necessarily,rendet necessary in investigation into the statement. ast would see the extreme inconvenience of such a pro. , when no remedy could be administered. He appre d that it only remained for tile House to reject the Peti particularly as the Charity Abuses Bill, which was to be third time that nigh; would necessarily take in its opera whole ease of the Petition. • question then, that the Petition be rejected, was carried division. SOUTH AMERICA. ./PENT, in allusion to what had fallen from him a back with Aspect to a British ship off the coast of ilea, which it was said contained a freight of gold for of Old Spain, contrary, in his opinion o .to the laws of begged to know, If-he was to understand by the cheer been given by the Honourable Secretary of the Ad- Ki that occasion, that the fact was admitted. tOKER said, that the cheer was meant to express a tof the statement. It was true there wai a ship sts- Coast of Lima ; but it was in consequence of the British merchants, for the protection of the .Brldsh neither directly ror indirectly was it concerned the between Spain and her Colonies. d NUGENT said he had on a former night stated that the Andromache was stationed off the Coast of Lima, with a ht of gold. He begged to.know, was not that gold Intended converted to thelise 0 Spain against the Colonies? r:ROKEft: laid, that : the department to which he be rm far from being privy - to the destiny of the gold, did pot . know that thoru was.aay gold on board. lklo other is. formation, he could assure the Noble Lord, came to the Ad-, ndialty,• save a report in the gqwspapers, that an I !hip was tilduced . to guilt • veeSei is monist of had on board. • . • 4s/17.7.1,'171[: Ifr. WESTERN begged • to, kattgr jimi Itadicquer, if the representation podia by the Ilouse, would be,likelp* produce egr the duties by which they were to be affected?' . CHANCEX.LOR of the EXCHEQUER -1 Aker au, bog consideration he could jive the j a .hi m toe the question was not bow fat the Sew saeps9r . e waif ty tolaperate partially, but whether the nsiltateis should be e xempted front a due proportion of the burthene baposed cuturaunity ? operation - appliction J say, eVery species fication this opinion, expressed, he teed somewhat at length to discuss the 'irhich might be made against it, several which, indeed, had been made by anticipation. The expenses, of the increased Commission, under the existing Act, - to enquire into abuses in charities, had been made tars subject of animadversion. In his opinion, there • *as no ground for this objection. It would be seen Sy any one who would turn his attention to the able nad excellent Report of the Commissioners, that dither the formidability of the Commission, or their actual investigation, had already produced a reform Or the utmost consequence. He would just state,, that in one case in the county of Kent, by the ezer- , pions of the Commissioners, a sum of four thousand pounds was likely to be carried to the use of a cha iity, which the Company acting as Trustees, since the time of Edward VI. had thought 'itself justified, in diverting from this charity. The case was now in' She Court of Chancery, the Commissioners, of course, pot feeling their competency to decide the appropri ation of this overplus. But had nothing else been done by the Commission, duriug the whole of last Session, but the regaining of so much, he would ask was not the expense of it fully compensated for to the country ? As to the Bill before the House, he obierved, that he did not object to its general provi sions-, but there was one clause, in the principle of which he could not entirely concur ; it •was that' clause which went to establish exemptions with re spect to charities having special visitors. There was 'no• reason why charities which were visited, should be excluded from the benefit' of the Commission of En quiry, more than those which were not visited, ac cording to the construction put upon.the Act of last Session. That omission in the present Bill, with re gard'to visited charities, was .a gross inconsistency. It would, however, be attempted to be accounted for upon the presumed will of the donor, according to the maxim esjui eat dare 4us est disponere, and, there fore, by the special . nomination in such cases, every other interference was excluded, and even the power of the Legislature could not, in justice, controul the will of the donor, evinced by his act of special confi dence ; but in reply to that argument, it was to be Observed, that where no special visitors were ap pointed, the founder and his heirs were by the. com mon law regarded as the visitors. Yetcliarities so circumstanced were by this Bill, and by the Act of last year, and also by the Statute of Elizabeth, which erected a Court of Jurisdiction, and not a Board of Enquiry, interfered with, although the visitors were not merely persons in whom the founder had reposed confidence, but were actually the founder himself and his legal representatives ; was it not then an act of inconsistency, to refrain, through a feeling . of delicacy, from exerting a contr'oul over charities visited by strangers, when there was no such scruple entertained with respect to those visited by the founder himself and his heirs? Again, when the special visitors were named trustees, then the Curt of Chancery, by the rules of law, had an au tlitqrity to iqspect and controul, and then thii Bill Ind former Acts allowed a right of interhrence to list - Commissioners. In the case of trustees, the ap pointment of the founder constituted a deketus per sona, as well as where the special visitors were not named trustees. There was a special confidence re- Posed in the person appointed by the founder, whe ther named trustees, visitors, managers; or gover "Mrs. Was it a reasonable doctrine to maintain, that where the founder appointed'a governor, in that case the Commission should have no authority, on ac 'count of the confidence presumed to be placed in the person so appointed? But where the founder went one step farther, and made that Visitor a trus tee, then the Commissioners should not be prevented from the exercise of their powers, although in that case there existed a confidence of a higher and more solemn character. The trustee of a charity was, in many instances, a Corporation, either sole or aggro gate• ; frequentlythe Metropolitan or Bishop of the ease was not only a visitor, but - had the manage- Meat of the funds ; and one should think, that the delicacy dt infringing upon a special right, where there was but a single appointment, ought, if con sistency were an object, to be at least as operative in cases where there was added to the right by delega lion the acted one of trust—(Hear, hear.)--It was 'Aso of importance to observe, that where visitors latercised their authority only once in three years, as was most generally the case, the extension of the power of the Commissioners to such Charities would Ise considered as a relief to such visitors. It would take from them the odious name of accusers and de nouncers of abuses, many of which may be presumed to grow up in 'the intervals of visitation, and make them be regarded as impartial and dispassionate in quirers. He was convinced that there were many persons who, in the capacity of visitors, had controul over charitable institutions, who by no means wished that the Bill should contain such a clause of exemp tion, and he therefore intended to move that the clause should be amended byleaving it free for the Commission to extend to institutions, the visitors of which wished for the co-operation of such an inquiry: The Honourable'and Learned Member said, that the clause had been copied from a former Act, in Which there had been some ground for its ,introduction; that was the Act of Elisabeth, which he' referred to before. A Statute that did not confine itself to the institution of a Board of Inquiry,, but erected a ju risdiction with power to issue orders and decrees. was one thing to withdraw charities, having the su perintendance of special visitors, from the exercise . _ _ average _ at five in the hundred, which, as the total number eofxecmhpatriftmiesmwthase controu l saidtob o 4O f the,ooo would o leave 2,ooo lllusion. Or if atheaverage wasstated in was tothbeeßteakpeonmatththeree excepte d in the hundred, amount would be 1,200. If the whole endowments were to be taken at 20 or 30,000, still there would remain many hundreds which the clause, as it now stood, would debar of the advantages of the proposed in be so modified, that all Charities, having special quir'y ; it was therefore of importance that it should vi sitors, should not be indiscriminately exempted. Mr. PEEL commenced by expressing his regret that he had not been anticipated inhis view of the subject by some one more competent than himself to lay it before the House. He would, however, reply to the arguments of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman respecting the clause, with a sincere con viction of their inapplicability. The Right Honour-, able Member then proceeded to observe oa the case of special visitors. It had been said that cases of that description ought to be included in the opera eon of the Bill, because in those where no special vi sitors had been appointed, the founder himself and Ms heirs were by law regarded as visitors, and yet they were liable to the controul of the Commission. But he (Mr. Peel) was of opinion, that under such circumstances the founder and his heirs were not vi sitors; but that visitors were in those instances ap-. pointed by the Court of Chancery, or the Court of Chancery was itself the visitor; so that there was a most material distinction between the two cases, as in the one instance the visitors were appointed by the founder, and in the other, though there was a delft-, km persona, yet it *as by a power different from the act and will of the founder ; at all events, as the pos sibility of the failure of heirs male of the founder Ins to be contemplated, some power distinct from the will of the founder or that of his heirs was to be looked to in the ultimate resource. As to the argu ment from analogy made use of by the Honourable and Learned Member, he (Mr. Peel) did not hold it in much estimation ; it was a very fallacious argu ment, and if adopted as to the question before the House, would convey the principle of the Honour able and Learned Gentleman further than he himself intended, as it would include the Universities. He next proceeded to observe upon the constitution of the Committees of Inquiry of the years 1816, 1817, and 1818. He did expect that the re-appointment of the Committee of the years before mentioned would have been moved for, and then he would have an opportunity of expressing, in the presence of that Committee, his opinion of its predecessors: The sub ject had been amply discussed in other places. He was of opinion that they had exceeded their autho rity, and he thought that that House should not be the only place in which the conduct of that Commit tee was to be free from animadversion. The greater the advantages were which were expected to result *om the legitimate exercise of their authority, the greater was the regret which eveff -tlirmNirrnind would feel at their having abusid tharptrwer, 6 - y`. ,acting under the influence of prejudice, or overstep ping the limits of their authority. The first Com mittee to which he wished to advert had been ap pointed after a speech of the Honourable and.Lear nod Gentleman, in the year 1816, in which speech he 'had induced the majority to believe, that the investi gations of the Committ ee were to r elate: only to the, education of the lower orders. It was at that time moved, that a Committee should be appointed to in quire into the state of education of the lower classes and also to obtain information respecting the chil dren of paupers carried about the streets of the Me tropolis, and not sent to any schools. Those who had appointed that Committee had no idea of intrus ting them with the power of inquiring into the funds of the great scholastic institutions--(Hear, hear.) — When the case of paupers had been mentioned it had 'never been supposed that the Chairman of that Com mittee was to be invested with powers to summons be: fore him the Master of Westminster School or Eton College. It would be said, however, that the words relating to paupers had not been added by the Ho nourable and Learned Gentleman, but by a friend of his, now no mole; but it Was immaterial by whom they had been added, as he only adverted to those to shew what the avowed objects of the motion were, and to prove that the great public schools were not understood to be comprehended in its operations. But it might be said, why had not that undue exer cise of its powers by the Committee been inquired into at the time? The reason was, because the Re ports of the Committees of 1816 and 1617 had not been printed during the sitting of Parliament ; and although these Reports contained the examinations C' the Masters of some great Public Institutions, and ttliat of Dr. Wood, of Cambridge, yet they were not printed until in the one , instance Parliament had been prorogued, and in the other dissolved. It was worth while to observe in wbatmanner the Committee had beeri constituted; and this remark was the more fair, as great jealousy was entertained with respect to the appointment of Committees on the motion of any Gentleman on the Ministerial side of the House. He Secant to bring no. charge against individuals; but be could not help stating the names of that Commit tee, in order to shew withwhat impartiality and ef 'ficiency it had been'composed. He would divide the *embers of that Committee into three classes. The Ist, consisting of those,who might be called inde pendent Members, Gentlemen who voted occasionally for or against the Administration • the second, of those who rioted in ' concurrence with the Honourable 'and LearnefiGentleuran;:. and.. d third of such as usually suptiorted . the measures of Government.— The first classconsisttd'oftir names, which the Right Plowable Gentleman tlien read, on which Mr. BROUGHAM rose, to:a point of order, and id, that it was nix riiht to enter into 'a discussion the motives by which tice Parliamentari conduct individuals was actuated. Mr. PEEL re-stated, that he did not mean to im peach the motives which influenced the votes of but only to describe them as coup on , the Committee. BROUGHAM explained, and then PEEL read the names of those Members 'hat he called the second class, and Ito seventeen.—()fear, hear.F..l•l l( , he said, contained only three Ilatries, see-ned to have been chosen, as beis sg p in unconquerable zeal in defenceof education ; they were, Sir J. Shaw, ins, and' Sir W. Curtis, three Horatu ed fiom the Roman camp to defend the MU,/ —(Much laughter.) Mr. BROUGHAM rose to remark upon accuracy in the statement of the names. Mr. PEEL contended that the names wl had read were the authentic names of the Com; as it had been originally appointed; but he ledged that other names had been added from to time. The Right Hon. Member then pr to observe, that by the Bill introduced to the on the recommendation of the Report of du mittee of 1817 for the appointment of a Comi to inquire into the state of Charitable Instit; Commissioners had been entrusted with power , the House ought to be exceedingly jealous of tin upon any individuals, particularly ir feelings which existed with regard to the ex; any very high authority. By a clause in the power was given to any two Comnessi. committing to any jell in the kingdom, with, or mainprize, any person, who, on being sur before the Committee, refused to produce any or document relating, either in the whole or to any charitable estate or funds, or to the the education of the poor. When two Comi were entrusted with such a power (for two c' pd a Board), as to commit to any prison ei. might think proper any person refusing to de *paper in part relating to the education of 1 be would ask if people could any longer spec, abuses of the Act of Habeas Corpus ?—(hea; By such a Bill the Hon. Gentleman, who great an advocate for liberty, did not hesitate tion a Measure, which enabled two indivh. commit a subject for retaining some trilliet stunt, and who resided in Devonshire or Corn . the Castle of Edinburgh, there to rema'n without or mainprize, until he had satisfied the if: sinners —(hear, hear). He then observed upon conduct of the Committee, in the examination Head of St. John's College, as uncourteoie proper, as the question which they had put Gentleman, conveyed an insinuation of corrui Lives, which he repelled, by declaring that lion contained an unjust and slanderous imj. With respect to Eton College likewise, he con. that the conduct of the Committee had been indecorous ; he spoke of the Committee of 1 that instance, as in some others, the persons awned were prohibited by oath, from divulgi regulations of the Institutions, or producing tutes ; yet the • Committee procured these from another source, namely, the British . and published them. He then remarked upo; of the evidence of the Rev. P. Hyne, and Dr, all, which went to prove, that the statutes open to inspection, or ever printed. Yet, mining this information, the Committee Eq the stAtutel, and were not satisfied in publishing miadortied text, but accompanied it with annotations and marginal readings, calculated to prekh'' licmiud—(Hear,,bear.)—The Right Hon. — theis quoted some of those marginal which he contended Were likely to prevent , of a candid examination, and to make the prejudge the merits.oi the case. He next proceeded to states that the Committee had exceeded its - as appeared by a letter dated the 10th of Jul , a fortnight after Parliament had been dissok alcourse when the powers of the Committee hay.e been at an end ; as he (Mr. Peel) had a friend who had applied to him to ascertain Yet the letter of the 10th of July was dated House of Commons, and signed by Mr. With Clerk, and was addressed to all Clergymen clected to send Returns according to the ained in the Circulars which had been previoush issued, and the answers were ordered to be a,' to Henry Brougham, Esq. Chairman of the tee at the House of Commons. This letter enlated to establish a dangerous precedent, hoped it had happened only by inadvertanct events, he should like to find the mistake recti, There was also a letter in the present Session the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, whit hoped had also emanated from mistake, as it • ko inquiries carrying on for the purpose for W tornmittee, whose powers were then no mc been appointed—(hear, hear). There was a in the letter of the Hon. Member (Mr. Breue a lamented friend of his, in which he claime; for an act which was one of mere duty, and • he had neglected would have been a gross b) the trust reposed in him. It related to the respecting the School of St. Bees, and whit. dared he had denied access to at the time Election for Westmoreland, because he wr ,salow it to be made subservient to electioneer') poses —(hear, hear). The Right Hon. Gentlem: glinted by observing, that the facts, with rest tbe protraction of the Committee, constituted gerous precedent, and, if they had originated advertence, he would like to hear it explained. , Mr. BROUGHAM rose to reply. He shoul; advert, as briefly as possible, to what he shout , .the gist of the question, and he could not hel ' , ing the charges mad e by t h e Ri g h t H on . Gen; quite inconsistent with his usual can dou r . tleiSanbwho had known the part which Brougham) had taken on this subject, could to the charges which the Right Honourable man had brought against him, or could be to perceive the motives by which they were I Those friends with whom he had been always tomed to act, and - whose support he invariabl rienced, knew very well that the Right Hon, tleman, the Member for Liverpool, whom sot now see in his place, came down at the ' the last Session, to move on the part of Lord, who, at least in this House, was recogn; the organ of Administration, for some spec' sure, with reference to charities, and urged it mach, earnestness, that it would seem there .\ a moment to be lost. The object of the no tic; Which the Right Honourable Gentleman le , Ten , • . , 1 I r , 1 if I. - i ; Ck • I . 4 , . .. , . .. . . , i ? . I ' 1 ' . ' . . . . • i • f : 1 t . II 1 . 1 1 , . ' ti , 1 , i It 1 •1 C , * . - it . . IlCill V.A. 1../l ELM 1' - mission to three [ would be advisal land.—Leave . 8.1 Mr. COKE i k Persons in the C of Taxation, and I • s substitution of a :• t I tend to any beret . The SPEAK: the late Taxes it , . The Petition 1 • Mr. W I LBE a . tirion from Dr. 1 been for several • ar.d that, during the character of the increase of C sir:cc, a different t. : of the o he n le' f theroustett I s, cause of this pro ar that ptoinote to the t by no means qu: , . , cz to n th r is t t e ranaa nce, ctic , the verend G 4 ' 1 i - was not in his p mots, but it veal in possession of I , i ministration of 1 . . rise.— r : C fh o e u .P ß ea T it , •, • and declared du duties of the'ofl t ; - • Lemprierr. HI Mr. GREN} ii . time which this •f no less than 49 4 i. : 11 • - tion, said that Is don of the Hoer * hood of Exeter • tet the unanimous c • . the Trustees bat • ..... charge of Dr. L il l 1 . did for his succe I : - Lord GRAY It, t , Lord CASTI a direct charge : . ' . necessarilx,rend: The Hone wou needing, when : j headed that it o • 1 don ' particular/ 1 1: read a third tint don the whole e . The question ' I • without a divisit - ' I . • Ls:ord./01PB few nights back "f I j South America, the service of 4J •:: which had been 3 :I ' miralty upon th 41 ' 14 . * -. Mr: CROKE f direct denial of • honed on the C wishes.Of Britis flag, sad neithe dispute between _i'Lord NLIGE ship Andromacl freight of gold. , .... i to be converted ;" . , • '• . • Mr. CROKI / longed, so far I .i •'. • pot even know formadon, he , vt radialty,';a - a Ship was lilduce I 1 had on board. il : • 1 1 Yr. WEST] I the iftadAcquert sten to the 110 Clit of the dud : ' ' The CHAN 1 • after the beau top hiM *IA tba % 1 •I likely . col/Art= l f - , exempted frons . the community : Ins ol ort n • • a jurisdiction which __-.-.--. at ousted those visitors of thei r the he t• delegated right ; and it was another thing to with- •ani • draw such endowments from the inspection of a use haoselior of power which not only did not erect such It tribunal TI knot =kb- as was to oust the visitors, but was a power which He n 144146 1" would be ancillary to theirs. He had no. Objet ion tt. a dd. t h at that the places ho would the specify shOuld - be ex- sai iiappe sr od exempted by the clauscs;, and'they_wirf the Univer. of sities, with their college`, and' balisi'all Seibids and of r 64 "'w° be 'Endowments, of which the fiends 6f,' Ccollegri were `Pored _, uPcin Trustees, the Colleges of Eton, Wattainiter, Win pe - •. • ... - . - Wili ' ' - .' 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Ilse bettefits likely to . be produced by ii- should exempt them, ii . appeared, th...t the former posing wi should be at the option of the Bank copal , either in were important fit the eaten*. If there was any Convnission had ascertained that out of the number amounted craft or in / 3111116 - one teration from its Feign shape likely to render ,of institutions of that kind to which they had given division, 1 The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he had no its bene‘cial operation more extensive, it would be by their mention , amounting to 260, six bad special these seer objection to this clause; be believed that nobody rendering its application much more general—that is .visitors - ; but be could positively affirm, that that display an weule think it worth while to take bullion to the to say, to eiry species of charitable trust- hi justi- calculation was much within bounds. He had rea- of their ed Mint'in order to have it coined. fication of this opinion, so expressed, he would. pro- son to believe that the tverage might be estimated man Atkii Lord REDES'DALE said it would be. impossible Ceed somewhat at length to discuss the objections at five in the hundred, which, as the total number ei from t 1 rti... it I n ft• tn 1.0%111111b C.l•ll.ll2 , liTlellta. until there 'ti•hich might be made against it, several of which, of charities was said to be 40,000, would leave 2,000 — Much ___ .- I rapo tett s rs co ra . rid whi c h 'nes, but .1 likely to the pl ace Alder. tit sel ect . iversiti es i ,e game in. which E t ommitte• • acicnow. ion ) t i me wocee6 t 4 he Wage 1 the Co,. 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