Star. — London, England, 1824-02-21 00:00:00

With the Peakluioas of amonfai athrash the ionises had pat i e nh, with the gemmed idle he reeeinebrnenr horn t h e country, he (hfr.noistislllid kiet nee bow any addi ,olol force coal& be *skid for. Lei** House pause ix ' fore it cemented to mite *at monstecsas fabric of a military Eitablishment, whirl might be productive of s e much injury to the entlibtunity. But, says the Nob). Lo d, we have to rat* six regiments. He Mr. w o e) would . ash, Were they wantedfto go to the West ha i r ? Could net imenles had for those ishmds with on raising_Dew'rellirnents?—(Heer, Awe) When his g a i es ty's Ministers wanted a reason to increase the Mi sal fistablishnient in the year 1819, what was the gr oog reason which they assigned to this House, of which he Noble Lord was made their instrument? He then rem ;erred to the arrangements made at that period, and read MIS atraCtS from the documents which set them forth. lie then proceeded to make remarks apothem. What was to be thought of arrangements which at one time recommended 800 men to form a battalion, at mother too, and a third 500. When he•took the sense of the House last year on the Army Estimates, the House did not agree with him ; notwithstanding, he did not be lieve he was then wrong--(iftear, and iewertet). Neither did he so consider himself now—( Hear). He would s uggest, instead of new regiments being raised, that six oy seven men should be added to each company in the regiments which now existed. This would be doing what the Noble Lord had himself recognised on a for me occasion, when the army was increased. But if Government were determined to proceed with the for mation of new regiments, he did her that the most metitoriousiNficers would be appointed. But his corn plaint was, of any additional regimeats , at all—(IIear). This House *as called on to give its vote for six new regiments without any sufficient reason being assigned. And when they are raised, they will not be so efficient -by one•thirsi as the system he had ,proposed. He knew i mt whether he ltd made himself intelligible or not. lire Nohle.Lord had spoken of an item of 1651. being laved in the expenses of eze Military College. - What was this paltry amount in the enormous sum of sit or seven millions of money P He (Mr. Hume) trusted that -the House would express clearly and decisively its dis approbation of this measure ,of the Administration. How could it be reconciled with the Address from the Throne, and with the Address from this House ? The Army was mote immediately under the direction of hir. Majesty, and Ministers ought to have considered this, recollecting the economy which his MajestysSpeech pro fessed, if inieed it was their intention to carry that pro fession into effect. But it would seem that there was no disposition to do so. From the year 1817, we had gone on adding to our increase of expenses in every de partment, which shesved there must be mismanagement somewhere. A . check ought to be put on pensions ; but there was none it present. The Noble Lord might be stow them as he pleased and he might almost take them from whom he wished. there certainly ought to be a check on this branch of the expenditure. Power was liable to be abused by men, end there were some cases in which it ought not to be lodged in the breastof an individual, especially where, the pubic interest was depending. When Officers for the Veteran Battalions were wanted, it must be admitted iliac the Noble Lord had acted with great discretion and justice in filling them up. The lionoirable Gentleman concluded with calling on the House to support the folloutiOg Resolu tion, which he proposed .as an asnendmeoe to the Noble( Lord's motion: • *" That it is the opinion of this; Committee, that as his. Majesty. was most graciously pleased in fib Speech from the Throne to *- hem the House, That at no former period- bad- there prevailed throughout all classes of the cornmeal,* inihis laurel/away:Jager, hi spirit of order, or a more just sense of the adonneare which, wider the blessing of Ploviesnce, the yenjoy—in Ireland. which has fur some time past been the subject of his Mejetty's particular aft iftioale, there are many indicatiOns of antendmeat ; wed hit Majesty Ries upon grow continued • easdeavours acorn tie welfare and *pines' et that pan of the United Kinrlorn,c ht jest' hue commanded us further- to Inform you, that be hie tom mason to believe that be progress of our internal prosperity and improve,. went will not be disturbed' by say interraption or Popgun*? ahead. His Majesty continues. to nodes Ow* the Youtems, his Mile', and generallylsons all frinoesAut *Naos iesitranot. otthdr earnest desire to =intake sad enltivAte the relations frienda dP. with his Majestt ; and nothing is omitted out his littiosty's port, as 'well to reserve general peace as to remove any mute of' ~mt. aunt, and to draw closer the bosda.otandty between other oakum ad Great Britain.' This Committee, theferooas. =POO Wee tni et Increase in the numbers of tire; aouy as. it Was tonnitatetk last. par; but are of opinion that isapoo regular treasure* ot 25,000 artillerymen, veterans, and marines, with the wile tors, and yeomanry cerise ; ussullitient• for theindisielee JIB lato; and therefore.they do- not feel theta:selves- caplet to Nee Pr an additional number of men." ' Hr. BROGDEN, the Chairman, said, the usual Emdelite tf Arnehdment was to. propose- diffeient figures. Mr. HUME pressed his Amendment irraho forst mi• foully proposed, embodying reasons for the redaction, sad quoting Ilse Lug's Speech favour of eatmemey, madidescriptive of the cheerful, contented; and peonsie• ing Stale of the country. Mr. St MtDON observed, that tbe state df the Colo lies was a main reason for the increase of the Army. Though he did not wish to be considered one of the un happy West India Pmprietors, who were now regularly abused in and out of the House, he approve& of the proposed increase of the Army. About two thogsand five hundred men had been sent to the West Indies, on the calculation that' arliament would enable the mai ler to be replaced.- Great efforts had been madeto pro duce a West India debate; he lamented that the Mem ber for Aberdeen (Mr. Hone) had se alluded to it; but be trusted that the Ministers would not say one word on the subject—and then he hoped all would be peace and tranquillity--(Hear). Besides the Colonies, there, were other reasons for the increase—the state of Europe, which was by no means settled—i• Hear, hear.) ' , lir W. DE CRESPIGIVY wished that the Govern ment would speak out on this Subject; and if forces were to be had in the West -Indies,-that the Horn:Surat:4e Member for Bramber would be made the Galardi:time of them--(Some laagheer). General GASCOYNE spoke in favour of the increase Proposed by the Government. .Saying nothing about 40 state of the West India Colonies, the changes of regi ments required it ; for some of the regiments had been abroad 25 or 27 years—(Haar). Was it right that men should be so long exiled from their country P--(Hear). It Was said, quiet Ireland, and thenthe increase would not be wanted. But Ireland could not be quieted; at last no means for accomplishing that desirable object had yet been provided—( Hear, dear, from Arr. Hunry and oth ers)—not such as had receive d- the sanction of that House—(Hear, hear.) He again expressed his opinion against the doctrine that all vacancies ought to be filled up with half-pay officers while any remained. - Colonel WODEHOUSE spoke of the disastrous ef fect,. that had attended . inan ytegiments sent abrondi one sent to Barbadoes had lost twenty. Officers andaKkaranx: !lid that in consequence of being sent thither is thous , b edithy season, when there was theory for economy and R r~ r ~- redaties. Had not oar &ma bees so liaised, such losses ga t _ have bees avoided. • Mr. BININAL obiaved on the defective conduct trranea sending compute tie West Indies , ' pities lsyamaiee, where they were net at first pot ions proper Ranters. There was groat 'inattention on this subject. He also. observed, that be was glad to fiad that there was likely. to. be Mt mil of the system of favour- itism anent . st the reginsents=4-eath Iniment irks to take its tarn in going *eras the Line. That was proper. It would be much to the honour of the Commander-in- Chief to put as end to such a system of favouritism. He ;would not vote against the proposed itemise. As to 'the West India Islands, be would observe a scrupulous silence: the time, however, must come when all of them would be compelled to speak out. The time would ar rive when silence wouldle criminal=-(Haar, hear).-:- He hoped the amendment would not be pressed. Mr. HOBHOUSE feared that his sentiments were of so antiquated a nature that they were net likely to here much sympathy either in or out of that House.— He premised, by regretting that this country had not proclaimed war lm year, if the iniquitous invasion of Spain could not be otherwise averted. We should then have maintained our proper situation. As to the ques tion, he was.against standing armies. They Were un constitutional, and all history told him how standing armies had always been used. Four thousand addi. tional troops were asked, as if they were a mere trifle; and yet - that was twice the amount of what were re quired from 1794 to 1799, when the kroliticai hemi sphere was se overclouded. He lamented that-his coun trymen could bear the sight of such additions; that they could hear to be shouldered in almost every street by the military. He had protested against such a' state of things. He could do nothing else ; but pro test he must so long as he had the opportunity. He . wooki always endeavour to arouse the people to watch fulness on this subject. Military forces, and standing armies, had overturned all Constitutions; and he there fore feared, that standing armies would eventually de- Stroy our free Constitution. Why were twenty thou sand troops wanted in England? What were they for ? AU was quiet. Why were more forces required than Cromwell possessed to keep the kingdom he had Wgined. He lamented. that a County Member (Mr. odehouse) should have supported the increase of the :standing army. He also lamented, from what - he had heard, that twenty thousand men were to be sent to 'lreland, that the system of force was still to be es tended to Ireland. He wished there was a change in die system regarding Ireland—(Hear, hear). Let force be made' to give way to persuasion ; and proscription be succeeded by an extension of contrary conduct on the part of the Government and Crown (Hear, hear). As to the increase of the Army, he was grieved that the people were not aroused to the conviction of the dangerous consequences of these standing 'armies.— Could The country see the aggregate of the evil, it must have long ago been aroused to, complaint. In conclusion, he begged to ask whether barracks were to be erected in then Wang's Mows, at Charing-cross, in the 'very heart of Westminster ? Such buildings, indeed, appeared to be in prowess. He trusted that he should' hare a distinct answer to this question. Lord PALASEItSTON replied.—As far as he had, hest able to collect the opinion of the Rouse, the Hon. iiiendeses foe Westminster and Aberdeen were the only &abaft who intended to oppose the , vote; it was thereon nnoacessary for him to enter further 'into the discisseles than to answer some of the objections Which the, had raised,. In the first place, the We. Member for Aberdeen had seemed toconsider the reinforcements for the West India service, necessary ; for although he, ;had in the early part of his speech denied this, he bad tafterwards conceded it.. - But he said, that, he had eonine: ad to this estiowees of the last year only because i lit was, then expected that thecouatry might be engaged in awar, and but for that probability he would have proposed a seduction to the amount of 10,009 men.-- Ut Hen. Gentleman might perhaps allude to aa Ori, eon entertained by himself and" his friends ; bat hie Lordship felt it necessary, on his own part, to declare that such an expectation formed no past of the grounds. on which he•had solicited the vote of last year. On the contrary, the Government. thee declared its resolution of remaining strictly neutral, and he could not believe that the House had beeninduced to agree to the vote for any such reason: he was quite sure-that none such had been proposed by hiin. What were the means by which the Alton. Gentleman would have the reduction which he re commended effected? In Ireland, he was of opinion, that if certain measures were adopted, the military force at present there might be withdrawn and applied to Idle reinforcement of the Colonial service. Did any man in his senses believe, that if the Catholic question were set at rest to-morrow, it would have such a more than magic effect upon Ireland, that the force employed there might be safely removed at once? The Hon. Member next proposed, that a reduction should be made from the Cavalry and the Guards. lie (Lord Palmerston) was prepared to contend, that there was not a larger Somber of men in these regiments than was.fairly pro. portioned to the infantry of the line; and that it was impossible to reduce them without also reducing the 'efficiency of that establishment, which even in times of peace, it was necessary to keep up, that armies might rbe formed if war should break -out. The Honouralle Member had alluded to 'the Militia and .Yeomanry; •but he knew very well that neither of those forces could' in any way be made serviceable for Colonial re inforcements. Still, he said, if nothing could be done from any of these sources, the augmentat ion of the army might be effected at a less expense, and that instead of :is new regiments, additions might be made to the old ones. He (Lord Palmerston) was aware that large regimental `establishments were less expensive in proportion than small ones; but from the nature of the Colonies, and man ner in which the forces were distributed, an addition of fifty men to each regiment, although it would increase the numerkal force of the establishment, would not add twits disposable 'force, becausethe addition would be wade in many places where it was not wanted, and it others it would be inadequate. The expense at which the new regiments were made was only that of the .Officers ; and this, it must be remembered, was less than' it might seem to be, foe they wens supplied from the 'Half-pay List, and the additional expense was therefore only the. difference between full and half.pay, which 'was not, as the term would imply,anohalf, but in some instance a third, .rind ia others only a fourth. The Fe Member underthegallery i Mr. Borstal) had ' tiettihat the system of quartennttroois in the Indies was, not sufficiently, attended' to. The Le althiness of the barracks had, however, long occupied e attention of the Government, and pains had '`ein Wren, by sending co :apart n nuentomansine -.4e, to procore.the beskopmons respecting each sta lk (Lord Palmerston) was awerwthat somessations bad.. been fogad unfavourable tie the nears6.--__ &Re uwwwureent bad beeseagaged in making arrange ments with the legislative of the island of Jamaica, 1 M alter'those stations; and although some difficulties Said arisen, he could assure the Honourable Member vied the Home, that the subject had been by no Meon4 hut sight of. With respect to the time and season at which troops were sent to the wee Indies, it was true that it was extrem e ly d es i ra bl e the reinf o rceme n ts s hould Ufa* there at particular periods of the year. The re• to which his Honourable Friend behind (Mr. Viodebouse) had alluded, had unavoidably been sent/ altar very anfavoUrable circumstances; bet this was• sue of the Intedicial consequences arming from the force in the colonies being brought to so low an arnonnt, that when a,reinforeciment .beeente immediately neces sary, there was zio means of :applying it, but by send ing a regiment from home, when perhaps the Govern *sent could not controul thelperiod of its arrival. The, Honourable Member, for Westmin.ter had said, that; be was in the sole possession of peculiar opinions on the subject before the House.' He (Lord Palinerston), slid not think, by the Honourable Member's argu mentssof this evening, , be was at all likely to lose the possession of those opinions.; and for his own part he' g.ord Palmerston), as he would not willingly rob the, Honourable Member of the exclusive credit to which' tat" were entitled, should say not a word against them.; It was by no means his wish to ridicule that proper , constit6tional jealousy with which the people of Eng land had itways regarded the establishment of a stand ing army but he would put it to the Honourable Gen-! demen, or to those who were sincere admirers and well- 1 wisher' of the Constitution, whether it was not better to reserve the expression of their opinions on the subject to a fitting opportunity; and whether they did not, in fact, throw ridicule on the cause they wished to support by introducing these opinions upon occasions to which they did not apply? Mr. HOSHOUSE said that the Noble Lord, for the purpose of rounding a period, had exaggerated what had fallen from him. He did not say that he was in the sole possession of theopioions he had expressed ; and at all events the Noble Lord might have done justice to. the conscientiods motives which prompted that expres sion, even though it had been as ill-timed us he seemed to think it. He was quite satisfied, notwithstanding the ridicule which the Noble Lord thought his (Mr. Hobhouse's) injudicious support bad thrown upon Con stitutional principles, that they remained unhurt by it. He was sore he had dune those principles as little harm his support, as the Noble Lord had done by his attack. Colonel DAVIES thought the estimate an extrava gant.one, but he was still not prepared to go the full length of the Motion. Mr. HUMS replied, the ground upon which he had proposed his Motion remained unshaken by anything he had heard from the Noble Lord. He regretted that upon this occasion the benches below him were empty, and that he was deprived of the support he looked for rvan those' Honourable Members who had usnallrad ocated the same side of similar questiOns. Ite, how ever, left the Motion with the Committee, satisfied that had done his duty. Mr. CALCIAFT, having *array voted fee the re. • of the military force with those of his linnostr. whose abse#ce hit Honourable Fries' Ham) ad. just re zr feltishuself veiled upon to y Stet boilsi as tYistkk the proposal& iodation for the at the Oalossissteubl be opposed epos the same grounds. He had, in concert with those Honourable Friends, voted for reduction anal the force of the country bad been reduced to sada an amount that le thought, it could not be brought lower: beyond thin he was net prepered to ge r and thistle thought sufficiently accounted for the absence of those Honourable Members. natio sgaposiso of his. Bmosar, 11r. "Mee thea withdrew his assemdloset, and subedteted the following-6o imam' el the wools wskrompthrse iirerind stria" la the olgiqui amiss, 'she words:" lizty4kree thousand nun" be umbstisiesdh , Tit Bare them giber tiers war ' Pr r • HP it . • On doe io.adingse it roamers the How woestilllia Cloak, Ins. Amd esionnolieseenonsem semi los, - 411a.thrioassi4 416.110* r Gawil (Meeon foreign latotidith 11n. MgMlisseik that aßen shit am merifestatles which bad liolumtplatooof the dimpoiltion of the liesso to suppose a largo stand-. leg tawr~, bis dinnillree degrivo them of Its . -.l4mneie by cur. 'Wing the Staf,*ner divide the Muse on the subjeta.—Thevose was taiga snoigtatf‘ • se114,1101) fen AlloONDOes for Plisses in Public Dopamine.* Madinah and Surgical ]Materials. . MASS the seine for Ireland. idtdr,Smt for the Volunteer' eartiz a reat- Britain. samossfer tin Noe as sine • MONS Ise the WinimirienW of four troop of Deggegas lib" four Comagenise Ms . 411,411,f0r dio ella gg e" ll 41011,11 tater die Pared einand stow Agway net being Cabo& ei_lWirmainev_ 400,01101ffetlisesiseraln Oriel gitilimiildeertein fore, "SU far Garrlaine in .Ireland. • i1f154.44S for the fedi pay of Grouted Ono die service•er soattarasd. A 1135.0. for Cams ea bays,. sal aims mace& Moms tar mon an•wsosss tosaloca4 Wow. ies; tow for the ham d Poreir espi al t o a r . Amass In-Poodosiers of Chats 4115;417 Inaessissersot 0219;4111 eitolienalweere of Chase linegisolo .133,1164 Sd. llilisary Asylum. litslerdi Widows' Atinii,lll4 lie, larkimatr Siren* IMO "hominy, and irar Wars& _ X 47,11441 ; lid. liapersametfea - Alleemileh ,Snow Redrat Allawasae for wreed Departments in Greet .Brissim . ,1141911 fat the satneiertfae to isel Af101,1116 M. lid. ier arsiatratoo— tenons la kebob *Be* Veteran Bac- *Wirt EfirilleArtg. Sir GEORGE CLERK said he should now proceed to submit to the House the rotes of Navy Estimates for the year, and proposed a vote of 68;2661. for the yanks of persons employed at the Admiralty-office, civil officers generally, and persons employed in the Dock-yards. Mr. HUME said he had heard complaints of the curtailments which bad been made from the salaries of the lower order of persons working is the Dock-yards, which was-at the rate of 20 per cent. whilst those in the higher order had started a curtailment of no more than per cent. Sir GEORGE CLERK obtervetthat the smallness of the salaries of the higher orders who were still obliged to keep ep the appearance of Gentlemen bad rendered it expedient, -when reducing generally the Salaries at the peace, to make only a reduction of ,rti: per cent. This was the other tresessary ) because, though an officer' shoutd be thirtytor fall years in this department, his sala±7 thin- child not eiceed=above 4501. elver. The vote was agreed to. AWN for *irks to permits in the Navy Pay Mee. .17,070 fee tie same ie the Navy once. 4 11 .6 4 11 5 for tilt Victualling 0111“. .117,015 fat the controlled Expenses of*Deptford Doti-yard. • , 24.1.4 4/ fee Waskrishist4. toe Chseksabsesd. iskelle for Staarawns4. 436,06 tit Pen wsware.yard. 451,256 kr Plymouth-yard. 16,496 ler Pembroke-yard. 4476,000 for the Wages of Animas, &e. 4567,000 for Timber to be used in his Majesty's Duck-yards. In answer to a question from Mr. Hume, Sir BYAM MARTEN stated, that the dry rot was not new so frequent in our Navy as of late years. The remedy found most effectual was the use of salt water, and the discontinuance of coal tar, latterly improperly substituted for salt water. He must say that a more unfair statement had never gone forth in the shape of a publication to the world than the book written by Mr. Burridge, every page sof which he could prove to be false—(Alieuget from Mr. Hums, who.said he had not read the book, but believed much depended on the season in which the oak was felled, and that we ought to have such a stock of timber as to be able to rely on our own growth.)—The Hdnourable Baronet then said, that never had there been less cause for complaining of the effect of the dry rot than in the cate of vessels lately built. The evil had most injuriously been felt for above 150 years past in the service. Sir J. WROTfES4EY recommended the felling of timber in the Winter, rather than in Spring, as a remedy. 440,000 for expenses of Pilotage and Bounties of different kinds. ' • 459,000 for Salaries to Persons employed in Foreign Dock-yards. Mr. HUME asked. had there not been a strong re commendation made to Government on the subject of the-Bermuda Islands, as appropriate for a strong naval station in the Atlantic ? Sir GEORGE COCKBURN stated a surfey bad been made by a Mr. Jessop, and that a most favourable re port had certainly been made. Mr. BRIGHT had last year felt it so important that Government should look to the future security of oar trade in that part of the globe, that when, the vote was granted be was going to ask if Ministers thought they had asked enough P He had heard the Dock-yards and station at Bermuda would take thirteen or fourteen years to complete them, as the work was now going on. He should prefer this station to be put in a fit state of, *fence against any ordinary force as soon as possible at almost any expense. There appeared now to be a necessity for our selecting some fit place in the Bahama Islands also,, looking to the late preparations of the United States in the neighbourhood, for the protection of our trade through the Gulf of Florida. He should sot, through prudential motives, press Government to give any direct answer on this subject, but leave the ob servation to make that impression they might think it entitled to hereafter. content with directing their atten tion to it if it had escaped them. Sir GEORGE COCKBURN applauded the senti ment which had dictated to the Honourable Member the inexpediency of pressing an answer to such a sug gestom. It was clear if the American Government thou ght fit ' to erect naval stations in the Florida:, we meld not object to their doing se ; but he might be Insured that his Majesty's Government would look well to the nature, strength, and extent of such preparation; in those seas, which may be termed the highway or direct course to one Colonies in the West Indies. .672,610 for the /mural, Victualing Yards. 462,606 for the Medical Establishment. 46,167 for the Maintesmice of the School of Naval Architecture. 4103,000 for the Maintenance of Slip-keepers and Salton on board large Skips in Ordinary, the Uniks, and smaller Veto& in Ordinary. - ,C4twofer the Rite of Pacheco on the Falmouth &Om. Mr. .HUME—What 1. whet packets', Sir GEORGE CLERK said last yeas it had beets de termined to put the packets at Falmouth under the con , trout and management of Government itself, instead of the Post Office, owing to several disadvantages under which the management was supposed to lie whilst in the Post Office depattment. The Post Office had en 'tered however into contracts *ith different persons for ! ships as packets on this station, which of course Go res-runes* must make good; but whatever expense is wan put to new, would of course - ap t eir to be reins. 'bursociiii the account of the Post Office with. the Public. It was now intended to make use of any cruisers which might be at sea on that station, in.all cases where the pievatence of contrary winds prevented vessels from putting out to sea from Plymouth, which would often save a great loss of time in the conveyance of letters to the West Indies and elsewhere, and be of important advantages to the mercantile world. The charge was , one purely of naval expense; and another object con completed was, that in the event of a war breaking out, it was intended to have small men of war to carry out the mails, as much inconvenience had *coated last war from the capture of several _mails by the enemy's cruisers...( 4 g fiery goad r frost Mr. Hanle). As these contracts for packets would expire, therefore it was in tended to substitute in the place of each of the present packets chartered small men of war, to insure the re- gularits of the mails from our Colonies in the West ladiesr-(Hear, hear). The Rcs-lution was agreed to. .1911.000 Hall-pay and Pensions Of Naval °lima. CALCRAFT said the case of Midshipmen was a very hard one. However long they ought have serred, or however meritorious their services, it was not in the power of the AdMiralty to- give them half-pay. He thought somethin; should be done at least for those who were first on the hat. The service of a very meritorious class of persons might be thus secured to the country, whereasat present they were found to have recourse to tisane other species of employment for subsistenee. Sir G. CLERK said, the subject was certainly an important one. It had, been under consideration, but -presented very considerable di ffi culties. The Admiralty done' everything they could by giving employ- Omit to such as had passed their examination for Lieu tenants up to 1814. Mr. CALCRAPT said, he hoped the Admiralty would consider the subject. Parliament, he was con- Anted, would not object to vote a sum of 7,0001. for the object proposed. Sit G. COCKBURN said the Admiralty was not indisposed to consider. the subject; but, as had been stated by his Honatirable Friend, it was one attended With great difficulty. Mi. HUME said, he wished to know whether Naval Off ceis on the half-pay were now regulated by the same principle as-after the American war, whether they might go into the merchant service? , Sir G. CLERK said that, with the leave of the Ad - Miralty, Lieutenants Might go into the merchant ser vice, -but no Officer of a higher rank. The only ob jection made was to their commanding small packets, *here perquisites were received from the passengers.— This wasnot thought consistent with the rank of Officers. M. HUME.--Are the regulations the same as after - the-Ametican war?—Sir G. CLERK. —Ye s: se, Sir- In answer td another questi from Mr. Hul G. Cuutic said, that a fee was. paid by Naval Officers on obtaining leave to serve in. the merchant ships. • ar#c,~+ y I _ ~na;•.ci ~+~t. - ‘ .. 1