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L WO . . . - Per C,.., , - ,, i' -1 1 ... •: ".'%4l c ,‘Zc ' - i / , ...• •^\ C , ';'‘ t i ‘ j t i ._. .RN ' a ~i •:,. 4., ... 1 1 -36.1,v /p . • , .., : ..2, • vb .1.. ..., . v l A!itfa (" d'''''•W 001 A .Af 3 - • . ../ c I e 5i a.F A L.. .4, 4 : ..... v / ., ..;,-&- , 4...,....e_____ ) y . 1111 `;•;'%4 s, ', • 4 . - ‘ , O , , .~ .•, ,4; ) FRIDAY, APRIL 9, 1824. N U MBER 11,539 j [PRICE SEVBN-PENCF,. WAITIIMAN, MAYOR. A COMMON COUNCIL, holden in the Chamber of the Guildhall of the City of London, on Tnuttsuky, the sth day of April, 1824, PARLM MENTARY PROCEEDINGS. of evils, their 1.-IrdAiips must naturally *de anxiens ,to afl;:rd relief. The most ohvirms remedy sto furnish them with emFloyment. In England every let :Int was almost certain to find employment. In lrel.ind the HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL 8. RESOT.VI7I, This morning the LORD DEPUTY sat for the furtherance of Ap peals at ten o'clock. " Christian Craigie Stewart (otherwise Mrs. Hay) and others, r. Eiizabeth Stewart (otherwise Mrs. Richardson) and her hus band," from the Second Division of the Court of Session, was called on for judgment, when the Interlocutors appealed from were af firmed by their Lordships. In the case of " Murray v. the Earl of Selkirk," also from the Court of Session, and relating to a peculiar mode of Salmon Fishing in the river Dee, near the Royal Burgh of Kirkcudbright, Mr. MURRAY was heard (in conclusion), and also Mr. Watxxis for the appellant ; Mr. SHADWELL and Mr. Mittatt for the respondents; and Mr. AICRRAY in reply in part, and the further hearing was ad journed till to.morrow. Adjourned at a quarter past four o'clock during pleasure.—At a quarter to five the LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack. Mr. P. Gamircti, and ot h ers brought up the Maidenhead Church Dill, and the Liverpool Oil Gas Bill, together with several private Bills, which were afterwards read a first time. Mr. Score, from the Chamber of London, delivered the Annual Receipts and Expenditure of the Orphans' Fund, and other Papers. Ilium the motion of the Eit I MI SHAFTESBURY, the !louse went into a Committee upon the Irish Four per Cents. Reduction Bill, which was reported without any amendment. The Worcester Romis Bill was read a third time, passed, and i mesaajted to the other house. Earl FORTESCUE presented Petitions from Clinton and Cre diton, in Devonshire, praying for the Abolition of Slavery ; also from Kingsbriitge, in favour of the Bill for the Recovery of Small DCOIS; and from Hallowley, against the Duty on Coats carried coastwise. The Earl of KINGSTON moved for Returns of the , Sheriffs and Sub-Sheriffs in the Counties of Cork and Roscommon, from 1811) to the present tine.—Ordered. The Marquis of DOW NS II I It E presented a Petition from Bel fast, fur the Abolition of Slavery. Lord PRUDHOE presented a Petition front certain persons in the County of Northumberland, against the Prohila;tury Da -1 ties on WooL . , thing was quite diXerent. On account of the wait of capital, there were not sufficient means of employing the people, and this rendered it necessary for almost every individual to furnisl Ititn.,elf with a certain po t ion of land to supply provi,i This minute subdivision of hind was a great sou r ce - f misery, and the elective franchise tended to increase it. It was difficult for a Gentleman who had interest in a ccrintry to resist the temptation of making it greater, by adding to the number of freeholders. In any preposition their Lord ships might adapt with respect to the Roman Catholics, it might he worth while to consider whether it would not be for their advantage to relinquish part of that privilege of the. L.:ective franchise, which, in its present .... That.this Court has already adopted the Report of the Commit tee relative to the application of the sum of One Thousand Pounds, voted by this Court in support of the Patriots of Spain against the unprincipled nr.d unprovoked aggression upon the liberties and in- 1 dependence of their oppressed Nation. That this Court, sincerely deploring the unsuccessful issue of the late conilie, deeply sympathizes in the sufferings of those Patriotic Individuals who have been driven to seek an asylum in this Coun try, against the persecutions of perfidious ingratitude and tyrannical bigotry. That relying upon the honour and high character of the Noble men and other individuals who are Members of the Spanish Com rnittee, to whom this City's Grant was paid on the 17th day of Jane last, this Court will not sanction any application to them for an account of the appropriation of the said payment; but this Court cannot suffer this opportunity to pass without expresaing its Lope that if any sum should he placed at the disposal of the Ge neral Spanish Committee by the return or resale of any Stores purchased by them, the same may be forthwith applied in aid of the Fund for the Relief of those Spaniards who have sought safety in this Country from the united persecutions of the nourbon Go comments of France and Spain, as a humble testimony of the high opinion which this Court entertains of their exertions in the sacred cause of Liberty, and of the deep interest which it takes in their afflictions. WOODTITORPE. r.mit, — was no small cause of evil. The non-residence of the r entry was con s idered, and ju s tly c or . s id er ed ano ther— s ,, lnce of wretchedness. It had been justly ob served by a Noble Lord, upon a former occasion, that there were two kinds of absentees, leyitimate and illegi. timate, but all were injurious to the interests of the country. They who possessed property there, and were necessarily absent, could not better promote its inte• rests, and by that means their own interests, than to af find employment to the people by useful works. It was the duty of all who had the welfare of the empire at heart, Whether they resided in Ireland or were absent from it, to promote the education of the people, and by all means they could to ameliorate their condition. It was, however, in the power of Government greatly to contribute to these desirable ends. Ie ever there was a l'his day was poblished, in Three Vols. I2rno. 21s. /VII'. HIGHLANDERS. A TALE.—By the Au -11 ci" I.lcrmit in London," " The Hermit Abroad," fcc.—Pub:ioleti and sold by IL Colburn, 8, New Burlington-street. A Petition from Sunderland was presented to Abolish Slavery. The Earl of K I N GSTON presented a Petition from some Parish in the County of Tipperary, praying for the repeal of the Tithe Composition Act, as the Petitioners were without a resident Cler gyman. The Noble Earl added, that so long as the people of Ire land were biarthened with Clergy, but without Churches for them to officiate in, it could not be expected that the Protestat:t Esta blishment would last. If information were desirable on this point, let their Lordships just direct some inquiry as to the situation of the parochial Churches in Munster and in Tipperary. With re gard to the averages, these were in general so taken as even to de feat the object of the Bill passed last Session, which g.ive to the illiterate pact of the community in Ireland, who were rot capable of signing their names, the power of voting away in Vestries the rights bel inging to die higher but undivided landholder. It was, therefore, that the Petitioners prayed that this evil should either be removed or abolished. case in which the principles of political economy ought to be laid aside, however just those principles might be, abstractedly speaking, it was the case of Ireland, as that country was at present circumstanced. He hoped, therefore, the bounties on coarse linen, a growing manufacture in the SOutli of Ireland, would not be withdrawn. That manufactuie bed already produced Th: day was published, Ta Two Volumei, octavo, with Portrait, price 28s. T L IFE AND 'MIES OF SALVATOR ROSA.- By Lady 111011 AN. Published and sold by Henry CnH.urn, 8, New Burlingtou-street. 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Earl DARNLEY now moved the Order of the Day, and also the reading of that part of the Lords Com missioners' Speech, at the opening of the Session, which related to Ireland, and which was immediately read by the Assistant Clerk as follows •_u In Ireland, which has for time past been the subject of his Majesty's particu lar solicitude, there are many indications of amend ment ; and his Majesty relies upon your continued en- , deavours to secure the welfare and happiness of that part of the United Kingdom." Earl DAttNLEY assured their Lordships, that had he not been anxious to bring the question of Ireland before the House, he might with propriety have deferred his Motion till a later [.eriod of the Ses sion, when possibly more papers might be laid upon the table of the House; but his object at present was only to give a geheral outline of the condition of Ireland, and, therefore he had not delayed what appeared not to admit of postponemerit ; for unless their Lordships should agree to advise his Majesty's Government to adopt far different measures titan► were pursued with re gard to Ireland, they would regret, too late, such in difference and such neglect. In proceeding to address their Lordships, he begged them to consider not the in competency of the speaker, but rather the importance of the subject brought before them. He felt the more in• duced to discharge the duty he had undertaken, from looking to the flourishing state of England, now, per haps, the most prosperous, though not the most ex tended, countay in existence; when he saw the manu facturers of England so flourishing, and her agricul ture fast reviving from its long depression, with her su periority in credit; when, also, he reflected on her anxiety for meliorating the condition of the colonial slaves, it was impossible. not directly to be struck with the circumstance so appalling—that our nearest and dearest relative, the Sister Kingdom, of more importance than all our other dependencies, was leis happy than, perhaps, any other spot in Europe. But, before he pro ceeded further, he was anxious to guard against the im putation of hostility on his part towards the Govern•' meat of Ireland ; to the Governor of that country he had been taught, even from his childhood, to look up as one of the most distinguished ornaments of his native land; he had, in after years, listened with de light to the statesman-like eloquence of that noble per son; and he (Earl Darnley) had only to regret that' the Noble Marquis should have accepted of the Viceroyalty of Ireland in circumstances the most unpropitious to him. It furnished one proof, however, of the true po licy of the Noble Marquis, and that he had acted well upon the whole, that he was unpopular with both the parties whose animosities and whose excesses still di vided Ireland. He was also here anxious that the No ble Earl opposite (Liverpool) should understand must distinctly, that he did not bring forward this Motion in sheer opposition to his measures; for he (Earl Darnley) was ready to admit, that his Majesty's Government had latterly done much towards the benefit of Ireland by collateral measures ; as, for instance, the prospective provisions of the Tithe Composition Act, and the Bill in progress with regard to Irish Burials; so far, there fore, he would speak in favour of the present Guyer a merit, and he wished full success to them. But, amidst all these ameliorations, it could not be disguised, that the Insurrection Act existed ; and much he leared,such was the anarchical state Ireland, that their Lordships would be called upon to sanction its renewal for the pre sent year, which, owing to a conviction of its necessity, he must reluctantly vote for. With respect to another Act, the Constabulary Bill, he was not prepared to say, in the present state of Ireland, that even that dissocia ting Act might not happen to prove a ❑ecessary mea sure; but it so happened, on the other hand, that those conservators of the peace, called constables, had contri buted to the perpetration of outrages, which not untie quently had terminated in murder. He did not deny that there were other symptoms of melioration with re gard to Ireland c it was likely, for instance, that some portion of the superabundant capital enjoyed by Eng land might fled its way partially to It eland ; but the spirit of party animosity, which was now higher in that country than at any former period, would counteract the benefit that might otherwise accrue to Ireland him the influx of British capital. He did not, however, mean to complain, as it respected the former country, of its government at the present day, but of the misgo vernment of Ireland for centuries past. If their Lord ships were doubtful upon this point, he begged them to read over the history of Ireland, and then a k them selves (from the reign of Henry H. to that of tier). IV.) whether such oppression on the one hand o and sue:, suf fering on the other band, had any counterpart in the ifinory of civiliz e d S e a rs ? Were not distinction; kept up, tenaciously maintained, between tl.e Irish and the English, and between the Catholics and the l'rotent ants is that country, though perhaps those diometions . might be a little softened down? With respect to the administration of justice in Ireland, no impartiality yet existed there,notwithst.tnding the wihes Government, and nothing tort of a rever-al of tie present ~stem would do goad. It was impossible to take a general view of the actual state of ii eland without first looking to the natural rights of the larger proportion of the people of that ccaintry ; and here he adverted, as their Lordships wou7di:erctive, to that great question efCa tholic Emancipation, where indeed the (nips troLandi still remained with the Grseernnient. The danger to be apprehended in this crisis seas evidently not proceeding float the Catholic:-, but from 'the other side; and upon this topic he Might appeal to the moral fin ce Of public opinion, as to dive-ting such numbers of individuals of all eligibility to office, which they must otherwise hold in the State. At this time, however, when there was no apprehension of external danger—when there was the pi aspect of peace for many years—be would entreat their Lordships to divest themselves of prejudices, and so to adopt some comprehensive and conciliatory mea sure with regard to Ireland. It was certain that much had already been done by his Majesty's Government for the general melioration cf Ireland ; but, from first to last, it was remarkable that no measure had succeeded in the end, so that there appeared to be a speciesxf fa tality to render all meliorations abortive. This was, in deed, a complaint of long standing, and what was writ ten by an Eaglish Secretary three hundred years ago, with regard to Ireland, would apply to her situation now ; and he was persuaded that unless their Lordships were prepared to adopt at once the only true principle of melioration, they never would succeed in their en deavours to pacify Ireland. It was objected that the present was not the time fOr definitive measures, when the Catholics were so violent ; but, in his opinion, this resistance was to be charged on the Anti-Catholic ri baldry which some Ecclesiastics had indulged in, and, the abusive publications that were issued in consequence, and it was rather too much to expect that in such cases good would be returned for evil. If, therefore, their Lordships would apply their minds to the subject—it, as he said before, they would inform themselves better with respect to It eland,they would find that nothing but reversing the whole system with regard to that country was likely to do any good. There must be an altera tion in the Representative System as respecting Ire land, and some deference shewn for even that super stitious veneration in which Catholics held their Church. Without at all disparaging the rights of the Prelates of the Established Church, he thought that wherever an extreme case was fairly made out—when there was a manifest disproportion between the salaries and the duties of the Clergy of the Established Church in Ire land—their Lordships ought to interfere. He hoped that his meaning was pretty clear, and that nothing he had just advanced would be applied to the Church of England, which was, indeed, quite different to that of Ireland. In this country the true splendour of the Church harmonised with the Monarchy and Aristocracy; but the parallel did not hold good respecting the Established Church of Ireland, where, instead of wealth there was poverty, and where, in a country which con tained 7,000,000 of inhabitants, not above half a million were followers of the Established Church. What he wished was, to render the wealth of the Church of Ire land (which under such circumstances was rather great) more beneficial to all classes of his Majesty's suhjezts in that part of the United kingdom. Such a measure ought not to take place during the life-time of the pre sent beneficial ies; but, abating this impediment, no measure was more likely to effect two great objects— a competent provision for the education of the poor in Ireland, and also for the support of the Catholic Priests. He was convinced that, sooner or later, some such re gulation as that just mentioned must be adopted, if it was intended to connect Ireland more firmly with this country. He wished a Commission to be appointed for that purpose, but much of its success would depend on the manner in which such a Commission were formed ; for if the members were too much imbued with Irish prejudices, no good result could be expected from it. Every system of administration had proceeded on false grounds with regard to Ireland. It was thus, in the year 1733, that schools were instituted in Ireland for the conversion of the children of Catholics to the Pro testant religion, a measure which, owing to its insidious nature, not only had failed, but done much mischief. Not more than two thousand children a-year had been so educated since the Union, at the expense of nearly a million of money. Of another class of seminaries, the Diocesan Schools, which originated in the reign of Henry VIII. not above ten continued to be supported. No better account was given by the Returns now upon the table of the Parochial Schools; and he was quite certain that it was impossible to caeduct the education of the It 6h poor upon such a sit The same ob jections would apply to Religious 'Tract Societies,which curried their counteraction with them. Ile was there• fore of opinion that nu Commission for Ireland could expect to succeed whose object, in the first instance. was not irreproachable, and which did not disavow all at tempts at proselytism, direct and indirect, in attemtaing to improve the great bulk of the people of Ireland,— He came now to another part of the subject, of very great importance, the vast population of the country,— . Ihe introduction of the potatoc, by the natural muse of nature, led to that effect. The potatoe not only sup. plied food, but also furnished fuel for boiling it. In so numerous a population, suffering under such a variety very great advantages, and, if not checked in the birth, was likely to produce still greater. The resi dent gentry !I:mild take care that public works should not be made a mete job, as was too often the case.--.. He held in his hand the repot t of an eminent surveyor, by whicir he was suppoi ted in the assertion, that the repair dfatoads was conducted in the most careless man ner. (The Noble Lord read part of the Report). No efforts on the part of Governinsnt could be. successful unless those who ought to be s the lonal•gnardians of the people interfered. He thought the appointment of a commission to inquire into the subject might be pre duCtive of consider able good. He had now gone through the various topics to which lie willed to call the atten tion of the ltome, but in a manner very unsatisfactory to himself. I k would however shortly recapitulate those about which he was most anxious. In the first place, he considered it quite clear that no permanent be nefit could be expected until the question affecting the Roman Catholics was settled, :t question which had long agitated, and still continued to agitate that unfor tunate country. Their Lordships should take up the matter dispassionately, and see whether concession might not be made the foundation of a system of use ful measures. He was willing that every proper and wise precaution should be taken for the perfect security of the Church Establishment. The next thing to be con sidered was the state of the Church property in Ireland, with a view to its amelioration. The education and improvement of the condition of the people would of course form a material part of any system of measures that might be proposed. He felt assuted, however, that no system could be successful unless it came recom mended by the Government. From the paternal dis position his Majesty had always evinced towards-Ire land ; from his patting admonition to the people on leaving the country ; from the sentiments he evinced oa any subject connected with its interests, he had no doubt that if measures of amelioration came recommended from the Crown they could not rail to be successful, and that the Reverend Bench would sacrifice some of their scruples with respect to certain points. The effect would be to strengthen in place of endangering that Establishment which it was the wish of all to maintain, whatever difference of opinion there might be as to the best means of doing q:). The Noble Load on the \Noel sack himself would allow that a Government might be essentially Protestant though Catholics were admitted to the benefits of the Constitution. He was anxious again to add, that a recommendation from the Crown could not fail to be productive of the best consequences. He anticipated the best results from his Majesty's visit; but he was sorry to say that in those anocipations he was disappointed. It was truly lamentable to see a country so favoured by nature overwhelmed by such a mass of evil. This very fertility, in place of being a blessing, was converted into a curse. Seeing that all the means hitherto adopted were not successful, that the distresses and disturbances were still as great as ever, he hoped the paternal mind of his Majesty would sug gest the propriety of some other system of measures. Ile called upon their Lordships to take the matter into their most serious consideration, without reference to the manner in which it was brought before them, or the inability of the person, but the impm tance of the subject itself. For GOO years the history of Ireland pre sented nothing but a series of blood and slaughter, of force on one side and resistance on the other ; and still, at a great expense of men and money, they were able to keep the country only moderately tranauth if they did not alter the systerri, and govern by other means than the swore, not twenty-four ror fifty thousand men would be sufficient to secure safety and repose. It was now peculiarly important that it should he tranquillised, when France possessed sec!' facility of ahnoyance by holding the pi incipal parts of Split , . It was not pos sible that the natural jealssa.y of France would allow England to reniam peace for ameos years ; and in a part of the em the event of war, what Advalitige sLe not derive et taken to p ftio te n ? i the No di , s , c tie in c t t e n n i t i that was sth mareo tc. conci liate the people. The vonedy invariably applied was and warm-water. No man the warmth of the the hearts of such a people; but it was impossible S rl l it is a 'eS i l te ai r ‘tj . lll):: l lll : l:n.t : jl.lh r ie s i'l;l m vu t:st of desirable to obtain they could cuts.: win feelings of such attachment towards .~=-.