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PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS, NOUS* OF LORDS, FEBRUARY 18. The Earl of LIVERPOOL presented certain Papers, by com mand of his Majesty, and moved that they be referred to the Com mittee of Inquiry on the State of Ireland.—Ordered. The Earl of H A RROWI3Y moved that the Committee on the State of Ireland do report from time to time, and that the evidence taken before it be printed also from time to time.—Ordered. Mr. Spice*, from Chelsea Hospital, presented an Account of Unclaimed Army Prise Money.—Laid on the table. Lord SUFFI ELD gave notice, that on Thursday next he should introduce a Bill to their Lordships relative to the use of spring guns for the preservation of Game. He did not hesitate to say that his object was, that the use of spring-guns should be ilk gal. It was his firm b elief: that it was now illegal, but as the point might be contested, he wished it to be entirely settled by a decla ratory Bill on the subject. No Noble Peer in that House, and he vas convinced no man in the kingdom, would deny the propriety of making the law decisive on a point which affected the lives of his Majesty's subjects. Neither did he conceive that any individual would be found to defend the practice of setting such dangerous Weapons.—Adjourned till Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The &MAIM took the Chair at four o'clock. This being the last day for presenting Petitions for Private Bills, the House was occupied with them for a considerable time. Mr. MACQUEEN presented a Petition for the establishment of Provincial Banks in Ireland.—Referred to a Committee. Mr. W. COU RTENAY presented a Petition for leave to bring in a Bill to establish a Fish-market in Hungerferd-street.—Re ferred to a Committee. Lord LOWTHER presented a Petition for a Bill to incorporate the British Gas Company.—Referred to a Committee. Colonel TRENCH presented a Petition for establishing the Thames Quay Company. Sir J. YORKE hoped the House would pause before it would consent to sacrifice its judgment to any notions of taste which the gallant Colonel might entertain. He respected his gallant Friend's talents greatly. No man wrote better—few spoke better—and he skew admirably—(A laugh). But it was a delicate question, whe ther the property of the persons residing on the banks of the Thames ahould be sacrificed to a plan which would exceed in filth all the fish-markets, sewers, and even all the essences of his gallant Friend ? Laughter). Referred to a Committee. Mr. ESTCOURT presented a Petition from Devizes, praying for a reduction of the Duties on Tobacco.—Ordered to lie on the table. I.ord BELGRAVE presented a similar Petition from Chester. Mr. .1. WILLIAMS moved for a Return of all the Cases de termined in the Court of Chancery from Hilary Term, 1823 to 1825, with an Account of the manner they were disp osed of. Mr. Secretary PEEL said that he did not object to the Return, but only asked that the forms of the House should be complied with, and the regular notice be given. Mi. WILLIAMS said, that he would now make only so much of his motion as was a continuation of the motion of last year, and for the rest he would give the regular notice.—The motion, so mo 'laird, was agreed to. Mr. S. RICE presented a Petition from the Roman Catholics of the County and City of Limerick, against the measures now before tile House for the suppression of the Catholic Association. The Petitioners prayed that the House would take no steps against an Association which was now legal, and allot whose acts had tended to promote the order and tranquillity of the country.—The Petition was ordered to be printed. Colonel TRENCH had to eresent a Petition to the House of an opposite nature to the last, from the Clergy of the Archdeaconry of Ely. The Petitioners stated their alarm at the proceedings of the Catholic Association, and I rayed for its suppression.—Ordered to be printed. Sir JOHN NEWPORT presented a Petition from the Roman Catholic Inhabitants of the Parish of St. Anne Audreon, pr. - .yirg that the House would not suffer any Bill to pass into a law which had for its object the suppression of the Catholic Association. The Petitioners stated that they owned property to the amount of 4.400,c00, all of which was embarked in manufactures and com merce, and watild be endangered by the disturbance which they feared would arise if any such measure were adopted. Bur they viewed the Bill before the House with greater apprehension, as it applied to the liberties of the people at large, than for its effect upon the Catholics. The Right Hon. Baronet called to the attention of Gentlemen of this country, that by this Bill they were establishing a precedent which might hereafter be adopted with regard to Eng land with the most serious detriment, it not the total destruction of liberty of the subject.—Didered to he printed. Sr J. NEWPORT presented Petitiousoiniilar t* thelast, from Team, Drogheda, Cashel, the Barony of Iffa and Offa, in the County of Tipperary, two fr:.ll the Barony of Upper Ormond, and from Itoscrea.—They were severally ordered to be printed. Sir T. LETHI3RIDGE rose to present a Petition from a large body of his Constituents, whom he con sidered to be justly alarmed at the proceedings which had lately taken place in the Sister Kingdom. They earnestly called upon the House to put in effect such measures as in their wisdom they should think fit, for the purpose of a check to such an alarming and illegal Body. The Petition was from the Inhabitants of the City of Wells and its vicinity ; and it stated the opinion of the Petitioners, that the acts of the Catholic Association Were intended and calculated to subveit the Protef..ant Establishment. They felt that the over throw of the P.tpal power had been the source of the prosperity of the Empire ; and although they were friendly to religious toleration in its utmost extent, they could not consent to the extension of political power to the Catholics. They considered this Association to be an organised confederacy assuming illegal powers, which must, if allowed to exist, lead to dreadful and awtul results—more pat titularly as it was in the hands of that All-influential body, the Popish Pt jests. The flop. Baronet expressed his concurrence with every word contained in the Petition, and his conviction that if some such measure as that now in progress through the House had not been brought forward by the Govern meat, the table would have been covered with Petitions of a similar nature. He had read the Bill, and he found in it nothing at variance with the best interests of the British Constitution, and nothing which did vio lence to the liberty of the subject--..-(1-/ere, He would not detain the House now, when a motion upon the subject was coming on from the Honourable and Learned Member for Winchrlsea, the object of which was, as he understood, that time Catholic Association should be heard by Coensel again.t the fill. If so, he hoped that every other Association would have the same opportunity afforded Mem. Ile should be surprised indeed if he heard the Honourable and Lelitne4 Gentleman object to this, because be advocated the very same principle three years ago. Mr. BROUGHAM said, that with all the respect which he sincerely entertained for the undeviating con sistency of the Honourable Barouet—for the unvary ing steadiness with which he had ever pursued the s , .rne line of conduct upon this question, and giving him credit for the perfect sincerity of his motives, he must beg leave to exercise the liberty of conveying to the 1-louse soros informatiOn which had come to his know ledge respecting the manner in which this Petition was got up. Nothing, however, which he was about to state, should influence his vote as to the question that the Petition be laid upon the table ; because he consi dered that no trickery or management in the getting up of a Petition, should affect that important right of the subject. But there were a few anecdotes of which he had been apprised, by a letter coming from a Gen tleman of considerable rank in the neighbourhood, and who was nearly connected with some parts of the Go vernment, with which he was desirous to acquaint the _louse. He was, then, informed that the Petition had been first sent to an Inn from the office of an w.torney, who was the tool and agent o' the Honourable Baronet vho had presented it—(flear,.hear). He entirely ac iitted the Honourable Baronet of all participation in matter, and it was most likely that be was perfectly ignorant of the facts be was about to state. This attorney was not only the agent of the Hon. Baronet, but also the active agent of the Wells party, who bad been tails _ ing the cry of a No Popery,". for the purpose of turn ing out the present representatives of that city— Messrs. Tudway and Taylor. The letter which he held in his hand stated that a Mr; So-and-so (he should mention' no names) rode about canvassing for signatures to this Petition, and went to a school close to the gate of the writer's house, telling the schoolmaster that he must get as many names as he could. The school master agreed, an d forthwith put down the names of all those boys in the school vilto could not write— (Laughter)—and all who could were ordered to sign their own ; and they went home bragging that they had supported " brick and mortar:" He should here apprise the House, that the party'opp . osed to the pre ! sent Members fur Wells were called " the brick and mortar" party, and so these boys actually went home bragging of the service they had done to brick and mortar. Having succeeded so well with this worthy schoolmaster, the Gentleman thought it right to see what could be done with certain persons of a more advanced age; and accordingly he went into the vil lage, and attacked a body of old women, to whom he gave the agreeable intelligence that the Irish Papists were all coming over to cut their throats--(Laughter). Whether they did not exercise the same controul over their husbands in this as in some other matters, he could nut say, but they were unable to compel them to sign their names, until prevailed upon by the terrors of their afflicted spouses at the fear of having their throats cut by the Papists of Ireland. With regard to the other signatures to the Petition, he was informed that they numbered none of the Canons of the Cathedral, nor any of the Gentry who were not of the electioneering " brick and mortar" party. Now they might not have such accurate accounts of the getting up ot other Pe titions, where the senseless cry of " No Popery" was raised ; and he had, therefore, made this communi cation, in order that the House might be aware of their real character. He entreated the House, therefore---1 not that they would not receive such Petitions—but that they would take them for what they were worth, and at all events coasider those which came from the Catholics of Ireland as not un deserving of attention. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE said, he had heard with very considerable surprise, the letter which had been quoted by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. In the first place, that any one should take such means of procuring sig natures to a petition; and further, that such a letter should have been written. But the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had given no name—(Hear) —and until he did they were not bound to believe the statement. It might have come, for anything, they knew, from the schoolmaster or any one of his scholars. He must say, that he was perfectly astounded at its intelligence, for he was entirely ignorant that any such party-pur poses had given rise to the Petition—(Hear, hear). Ile knew that it was signed by Magistrates and Clergy, and he knew that it was also signed by many hundreds, he might say thousands, of the most respectable inhabitants and yeomanry of the neighbour hood—(Hear). The communication made by the Lion. and Learned Gentleman was so puerile in its nature, that till he had it from the first authority, he should not consider it entitled to the slightest regard or belief. Mr. BROUGHAM repeated that he never suspected 1 the Hon. Baronet of knowing anything of the manner in which this Petition had been obtained. It was not usual to advertise the names of private individuals in their debates, and he bad abstained from mentioning the names of any of the parties. Ile could assure the Hon. Baronet that the writer of the letter was a Gentleman living in the neighbourhood, possessing considerable rank and character, and highly entitled to respect. The Petition was then ordered to he printed. Sir MARCUS SOMERVILLE presented seven Petitions from the County of Meath, against the Bill for suppressing Associations in Ireland.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. M. FITZGERALD pi eseoted a similar Petition from Trilee—Ordered to he printed. Mr. M. FITZGERALD also begged to call the at tention of the House to a similar Petition from the Town and neighbourhood of Killarney. He was sure that he had only to mention the names attached to the Petition, to convince the House that it was one of no ordinary character. When the Ilouse learnt that the name of Lord Kraut:ire was amongst them, they would be convinced that every Catholic in lieland was united in this remonstrance against the proposed Bill. The Right lion. Gentleman then highly eulogised the conduct and character of Lord Kenmare and his family, alluding to their unshaken loyalty, and the military ser vices ot his Lordship's brother. Lord NUGENT took the opportunity of stating to the House, that the British Roman Catholic Commit tee, at a meeting held that day, had drawn up a Peti tion which was now in a course of signature, and which he should on Monday present to the House. The Fed. tion would be that of the Roman Catholics of Eng land, with the Earl Marshal at their head. It would state that they felt the utmost sympathy with the Ca tholics of Ireland, and earnestly entreat the House that rho Bill now before it might not pass into a law. lie had been expressly desired tostate that the Petition had been drawn up with out any communication whatever. either directly or indirectly, with' the Ronan Catholics of Ireland.—Ordered to be printed. Sir F. BURDE FT piesented a similar Petition from certain Roman Catholics in Ireland. The Honourable Baronet briefly addressed the House, and said that he should not detain them, as his Hon. and Learned Friend was about to submit a motion which would have for its object to let the Petitioners have an opportunity of gluing themselves justice, and to du the I louse the justice of hearing' before it' condemned. — Ordered to be printed. Upon the motion of the CIIANC,ELLOR of the EXCIIF.- </Li Elt, the House went into a Committee of Supply, when seve ral t capita' of fut in, relating to Exchequer Bills, were agreed to. The Chairman reported progress and the House resumed. CATHOLIC A SSCCI A T10N..--•HEA RING UN COUNSEL. Mr. BROUGHAM said, that in rising to submit the proposition of which he had given notice on the pre ceding night, be felt all the anxiety which was natu turally to be expected by one who placed himself in the situation of calling upon the House of Commons to de cide upon one of the most important questions, he would venture to say, that ever came before it. At al most any ether period, and under almost any other cir cumstances, so far should he be from considering the, proposition he was about to make as one of grave, im portant moment, that he should treat it as a business of every day occurrence, and a mere matter of course ; be cause it had been so invariably and entirely the prac tice of that House to condemn no parties unheard, that he should never have given a thought to the idea of meeting with opposition. But horn something which passed last night—from certain symptoms which he had observed on the other side, evincing a disposition to hurry this measure through with an impetuosity which disregarded all obstacles, he felt misgivings in his mind, that the motion he was about to submit would be con• tended against and contested. He found, to his un speakable surprise, that Gentlemen were not only satis fied with making up their minds to support the mea sure upon that inconsistent, broken-down, partly-ex plained away, and altogether unhinged statement of facts with which it was introduced; but when those facts came to be investigated—when the parties came forward with the humble, but firm Petition, and said, as had been well observed by his Honourable Friend, o Strike, but hear ;" then he found that,theise persons, having so greedily swallowed that statement of facts so utterly iricsnsistent, and so capable of disproof—Were ready to say that they wanted no further information —that strike they would, but hear they would not. He could not disguise to himself, that if these suspicions were correct, as he feared they were, this would be the most important decision. ever taken by the House, and one which must involve the most serious, he would say, tremendous consequences to the empire. Good Gon ! Were six millions of people to be refused time to be heard against such a charge as that pre ferred by the present Bill? Were they to be told that the House of Commons, clasping that charge to their bosom, were ready to convict, sentence, and execute ? yet not one word would they hear in the shape of a de fence! Let them look at the situation of those dis tinguished men who stood at the head of. the Catholic Association. He should abstain from debating over again the matter which had occupied them so much— not that be thought the subject exhausted; on the con trary, it was worthy of being debated over and over again, might after night, upon every Petition relating to the subject, upon eve, y stage of this ill-omened mea sure—and even after it had passed, if pass it could, it would require and demand further and .repeated dis cussion. But the question which he was now propos ing stood so clear from the larger one upon which they decided the other night, that any Gentleman who then voted for the bringing in of the Bill, might most con sistently and most rationally support the motion with which he was now about to trouble the House. Were he one of those persons who most desired the passing of the Bill, he vowed—and he spoke it conscientiously, that 'he should be most anxious to pave the way for it by hearing the prties at the bar of the House. The more pressing the responsibility, the more dreadful the con sequences to be expected from the measure, the more anxious should he be, to adopt it upon the fullest investigation. To bear the parties was the only way 6; which the facts upon which the Bill was pre. tended to be supported could be maintained. II they wished to take away from the Catholics of Ire land all possibility of cavil, if they wished to prevent' them from saying that the Legislature had dealt hastily and cruelly With their rights—they must support the facts upon which the measure was proposed; and be (Mr. B.) stood there, authorized to tell them, that the parties were ready at their door, to prove, by clouds of witnesses, that thoseracts were erroneous, and altogether capable of entire disproof. Upon facts alone could such a Bill be supported. It professed to go upon facts, and, indeed, no man could venture upon speculative reasoning to propose a legislative measure as applicable , to such a subject. There were topics where reason was sufficient ground ; such as the consolidation of the Excise Laws, or the business of the Court of Chancery ; although in the latter ca‘e his Hon. and Learned Friend the Member for Lincoln, had not satisfied himself with taking that position alone. If ever there was a case in which notoriety might have been the ground of pro ceeding, it was that one in which there was no man in the country who did not practically feel the enormous weight of the grievance. Yet his Hon. Friend brought to his support great eloquence, great powers of ridicule, much of admirable commentary—as the ground of what ? Not of legislative enactment, but of the appoint ment of a Committee to inquire into the truth of the facts which he had stated ! He trusted that his Hon. and Learned Friend was pursuing, as he knew he was, those exertions which would confer so much benefit upon his country. He trusted that he would not be deterred by airy mock proceedings—he begged pardon—by any par tial proceedings, as they had been described by his Hon. and Learned Friend the Solicitor-General—himself a Member of the Commission. How much more ought the present measure to rest upon facts which were in disputable and undisputed ? Yet if ever there was a measure more completely spun out of the theoretical bran of its author than any other, it was the present ; and little and few as the facts were upon which they were ,called upon to legislate, he stood there, author iced by the Catholics of Ireland, to tell the House that they were ready with clouds of evidence to prove that little false. it was much to refuse that just request. It was much to turn round and say that they wanted no evidence—. their minds were satisfied, and the measure should pass, be the statements they had heard accurate or erroneous. He knew what the English of this was. There was ;some in that House who did not want to see the Peti tioners at their bar, because they haunted them enough as it was. There were those who felt that all their measures had been levelled against the suffering Ca tholics of Ireland, and could not look them i n the face. They expected to see hosts flocking to the bar, and thought there was no necessity for such a farce, when they had already determined upon carrying the mea sure, whether the statements they had heard were true or not. He hoped the House had not forgotten that first, little, select portion of the Right Honourable Se cretary's statement of facts, which related to the case l of Hanley the soldier. Would not everybody suppose, who had heard the Right Honourable Gentleman's de scription of a Catholic population overwhelming this poor man—this victim of religious fury—oppressed and borne down by a prosecution, supported by the wealthy purse of the Catholic Association—would not everybody, nay, did not every man who heard the Right Hon. Gentleman suppose that this soldierHanley was a Protestant ?—(Hear) —No such thing, he was a Catholic and an Irishman—and the Catholic Associa tion prosecuted him for administering unlawful oaths. This, then, might be taken as an example of the degree of dependance to which thewhole statement was entitled. There was another point upon which an explanation 'could be offered, not less satisfactory to those who were alarmed by the cry of « No Popery," as it had been so foolishly raised at Wells, and the - few other places where there _were Cathedrals, and schoolmasters, and little' boys who could not write, and terrified old women! The cry so raised, and the purpose it was intended to answer, had found a strange support in the allusions they had heard to the resolutions which had been brought forward by his Honourable Friend, the Mem ber for Aberdeen. He admitted the right of bringing forward that topic as a fair debating advantage on the part of an opponent of the Catholics. But suppose it could be shewn upon the first evidence at the Bar of that House, as being the known, and decided, and deep-rooted, constantly professed, and constantly entertained opinion and feeling—the deep and steady feeling of the most eminent individuals entrusted with the management of the Catholic Association—that how severely soever, how conscientiously soever, how en thusiastically soever—with how much soever devotion they regarded the interests of their owu Church, and • how acutely soever they felt bet peesecutioea—that t:.ey were the first to deprecate the idea—the first to abjure the idea of the ene tithe part of one tithe being transferred from the Protestant to the Catholic Church ?—(Hear, hear, This fact spoke volumes. It ought to discomfit those who tried out against the Catholics from interested motives,- 1 -hut it ought to comfort those who felt a sincere alarm it the alleged dismemberment of the Protestant Church. In objecting to this motion, let him not be met upon the pretence of delay. He desired to be understood that the parties were here, and their witnesses ready. There ford twenty or thirty of the principal members of the Acsog ciation ready to be examined to-morrow, and the rent could be here in time to prevent a day's delay. It need not be feared that they should be detained by long speeches—it was not for that purpose that the partied desired to be placed at the bar. There was no neceiliti for further proof of their eloquence, for all must bri ready to allow them the possession of splendid talents= They were not wanted at the bar to enlighten the uni derstandings of the House. It was to give them tri op: portunity of explaining - their own motives, which weri aspersed—to vindicate their own Association, whicH was aspersed—to defend their own country, whiCh was laspersed—to maintain their own religion, which both in it religious and political character had been as persed—that he wanted to see them there. He desired to let them explain, what they alone could explain, he wished to grant them the justice there which they could not obtain elsewhere. It' reluctance were felt in any quarter, or apprehensions entertained as to the effect of bringing that House and the Catholics into collision, that reluctance might give way when he stated that from what he knew, and from everything he had seen of • them, all parties would come out of the inquiry with a much better feeling towards each other. The House, aye, even such as had been most bitterly oppdied to the Catholics, would be softened in their sentiments, and they who represented the Catholic people of Ireland, whether they departed with what they desired to obtain or no, would go from their bar, carrying into the boo- som of their country, and into the hearts of iheir court.; try men—affections, gratitude, delight,—feelings from which the people of' that country 1 - ad been so long estranged. They had an alternative, if they refused this course; and it was that which they would do if they passed this Bill, and which lie would plainly tell them was all they dared to do—they would gag 'the people of Ireland, and add that further penalty to their already accumulated load of sufferings. lf, on the con trary, they were heard by the country and by Parlia ment, it would be the forerunner of conciliation and concord throughout the United Kingdom. Without a moment's delay, this blessing might be obtained. Thi most distinguished leaders of the Catholics—the per sons distinguished for their rank, their property, their influence, and their talents—were all here ready to give evidence: in a word, Ireland was at the bar of the House ready to enter into a solemn compact with Parliament ; and would the doors be shut against them, and they be suffered to go away with a stigma attached to their cha racter, which they had in vain implored to be permitted to remove ? If that step were taken, the youngest man present might not outlive the direful consequences. —lt would evince a disposition to anything but conci liation, and might be expected to produce the bitter fruit of disappointment and unremitted defamation.— The Catholics indeed appeared to be doomed to every degradation. The Earl of Liverpool, who daily re ceived every one else, would not see Mr.Eneas Nl4Don nell. His Lordship saw Orangemen in numbers, he received the Secretaries and Agents of Bible and Anti quarian Societies, but lie could not condescend to grant an interview to the Agent of the Irish Catholics. Would that House then follow that example—would it say to six millions of his Majesty's subjects, "we have nothing to do with you—t' e cannot listen to your complaints or your defence—we are determined to put you don n by Act of Parliament?" Now this was the most grievous mistake which the House of Commons ever committed. It was even a greater error than that committed in 1766 and 1773, which subsequently cost the Crown of E.rg land America. When the ancestors of the present House of Commons turned Dr. Franklin from its Bar, they did not then know that he possessed the affections and respect of the whole population of the United States —they did not know that in rejecting his prayer they were refusing justice and rooting discontent among mil lions of people. But it was very different now with respect to the Catholic Association. The chosen De puties of the Catholics now sought to give evidence in refutation of the charges against that body. These men cause as the organs of their fellow-countrymen, united in object and in opinion, and speaking the sense of the whole Catholic community. If the House would examine the statements in support of the measure fur suppressing the Association by the evidence now ready to be produced, one of two things must follow. It must either be granted that the prayer of the Petitioners was well founded and that the Bill was unnecessary, which would effectually conciliate Ireland, or the prayer of the Petitioners would be rejected, after a kind and patient investigation of the subject, and the decision of the House submitted to with loyal resignation.-- He was aware that Honourable Gentlemen on the op posite side would lament that it was not in their power to comply with the Petitioners' demand, inasmuch as they could find no precedents in support of such a course. In his (Mr. Brougham's) opinion, the course adopted in the year 1766, on the question of the Stamp Act, was analogous to the one he now urged on the House. The law was a general one, not affecting or intended to affect particular individuals. The Peti tion laid before Parliament by the Americans was, in January, 1766, referred to a Committee of the whole House, and on that occasion the memorable testimony was given at the bar by Dr. Franklin, which has since become incorporated, in the:works of that great and good man, with English literature. The Stamp Act was subsequently repealed as he thought it ought to have been, and he hoped the present obnoxious measure would also be repealed. The exampl e of 1766 followed in 1775, and he (Mr. Broug ham) ventured to predict, that in the debates of the latte r period, he should was find the very arguments against conciliating the Ameri cans, which would be used during the present discussion. [The Honourable and Learned G e ntleman then entered into a detailed account of the legislative measures and events which preceded the independence of the United States ; and contended that the case was analogous to the contemplAtedaseasure against the Catholic Associa tion). .‘ 1 consider these arguments, Sir," continued Nit. Brougham, " as sufficient for the support of my motion ; but, before sitting down, I may, perhaps, be f allowed to say, that it must be in the recollection o even the youngest Members of the House, that Petition! similar to the present have been received, with Compel , and witnesses; and I myself temember, that ply fug lISU 43 who vern Hoe Deer 1! whc , whc • quii 1 !I the •-• 't wai the •. intrO action to tb,; I came before its the more warmly eause I am convin pression of filmic posed, yet, at lea: n light to the affai rious feeling bets bislang!, and then tented of Ireland, lead to much bets the two countries. this hearing, that Steven millions of t ‘n behalf of a relit your that once s .trs of.this countr Your should he t2.itnrincs that was tin them, as the tounsel and witne prised to each otht complaining of gr The hawkers, a sent propriety, copied petitioners have and affliction, that their utter eater mi derailed ; we clain free citizens rf the witnesses." The the hawkers, and Roman Catholics was granted to an -afraid that I have the House; but h to prefer to both s them, on this ocl faction and party this golden opport portnnity sent to receive the Bill or be to hear such th per to offer, the of work on which we such grounds as present I do not sf for a moment I w the witnesses that whether this Bill I my settled and e. founded a basis of in every respect unc Ireland. I therefore n then elves, Couniel, a Sir F. BIM DEri Mr. WYNN sa a Bill before Pail in their interests, affected at the B. case with the pre, against the Catlin low them to be he word of the Galli measure to put (Hear, hear, hear) local Bill affectii that was not fere rity of the consuls hers were Catholis lars did not apply class, but the pie whole people--; agreed to, no Bill some body of hid at the BAT agains the soldier, it ma testant or Catholi Mischief was, tha the Catholic Asso jetted to was, th; to defend one party a of the avowed °Neel facts could alter his c these petitioners well they would stop. Sir J. YORKE Irish affairs, alth The Catholic Ass be put down. F to hear threats o granted those cla notwithstanding, the Association si and Learned Met his speech. He Clear, at the perle Isle, for the first board what woo she'd never do ar Inkier water.—(A she was cooled al He denied that I land in any mod for the State, tha 1-17th—(Hear). did not the peo 4:500,000 ?—(H lies did not, he v it—(A laugh). Th stalking horses. I for the discharge of to be put down, he s Mr. HOBHO 'tents of hilarity would go tee suc spaired of ever se while such senti tires. The Hot hope to meet wi even of Adminis with pleasure h .Attorney-C T e ren expressions, bea t claims—if the ,q good in drawing siourable Seereu l.itherto given st listened to with une day Emancip issings for the A further remarks, lant Admiral's ceeded to say, t feather broke th Catholics had h not to-be beepe r Honourable the p recedents were able Secretary ft Otherp—tu dies 4 1 t a r e • .1 J