Star. — London, England, 1828-05-23 00:00:00

. . cognised in ft would not be 'testi kted tb'lol:' The Right Hon. Gentlemarrhad told them, that the•qoalifications of the Jut-Ws were to be .the same as those who tried causes in Westminter Hall at Nisi Piitis: Why not tli.n, since they were equally qualified, enable them t try causes to the same amount ? He did not mean to express a desire to extend the powers. of the County Courts unlimitedly, but he thought that they might properly and conveniently be extended to the trial of 201. cases. There was one thing be hoped would he pi ovided for, and that was, the responsibility of the Judges, who, as he understood, it was intended to draw horn the Sub-Shesiffs, and not therefore of such a rank in lite as to make the want of it impossible. He b e gged also to suggest, that it might be well to enable a party, if the verdict went 'against him, to pay by in stain...Tots, so that a man really unable to pay should not be unnecessarily harassed by immediate execution upon udgment. Mr. C. WOOD said, that the . office of Sub-Sheriff was _valuable a piece of patronage, that he under mood the Sheriff often sold it for 1,0001. He hoped, if the Judges of these Courts were to be drawn from that :lass of persons, something would be done-to prevent such a thing as that taking place. Mr. Alderman WOOD expressed his cordial concur rence in the policy of the Bull. The Small Debt Society had latelurrelieved no fewer than 200individoals who had been confined for some months for debts under 21.14.. each. This was. a lamentable state of things, which loudly called for.the interference of the Legis lature; for while those' unfortunate persons were in pri son their families were probably receiving assistance from the Poor Rates. He thought it would be an ex-, vemely good thing to limit arrests to sums above 201. He win sure that would be beneficial to the country. Mr. Sec tetary PEEL said;. his only object was to enable roues to recover small debts at the least posiible ex p.me_(Hear, hear). Thus he had wade the form of pleadings the most simple he could devise, as follows: $ A trcompuiass . th at C &owed him so much money . ousuch a day' w 4kHeir, bear). Nothing could be simpler or it 4 expensive than that. With reference. to the amount of debt to which the Bill was to apply, he thought they had better it first, - for the experiment, kin stand at . 101. They could make it .151. or 201, hereafar,whenther had watched the progress of the Bill at that amount. • He proposed also to give the Court pcAver, trt the cue of an honest and industrious debtor, to soave the payment of his debt by instalments, within a period not longer than four months.-(Hear . ). And with reference' to fees, the Bill proposed to make the fee to die Swig' in no cave, for entry, record, dec. mere du; one shilling. With reference to the expense to waidi Counties would be put by this Bill, some rep lesiairwrogld undoubtedly be made in favour of large Coentlea,inch, for instance, as Yorkshira c whieb would ationifolbeing.divided into several districts. He doubted, looms, the,policy of giving power to any local autbo• lilies twat.r she amount of fees.. M. 6: LA . P46 expressed his approbation of the BilLi Ile tradiurefthe house wen-not 'at all awareof.the ex, tame good it would do; even though liatited to 101,. It NJ (Allen to his lot to iisit a gaol:through which six,• claims for sums under a. bad pereeed.in the coarse of of He *IRS sure the increase of crime might be attributed to :the .csiit4Mment of poor debtors within the walls of a pima, where their minds became bat, theed..4sy , the: ARIL distaste's with whom they- ware abliged - ‘tcl'eliatisiet. •He hoped -this Court :in time would absorb all the petty- Courts of itelipiests; and he hoped also dr ;t a time wottfd,artiye sehen . there would Lew ouch. tbengtaouna io-thiszountty as imprisoamini tutor. He . misteemialied; howeyerf with -this Bill foe the mama, and thought that, upon the piaci* that they otig4,7tiOt itplai'SViillipg hone to death, they ' oggin got io ) nige ihe itight.itotitiutable Gentlemen out of the steady pace'in which he eras tareseat alirr iabk-:..The motion was then granted. " ' Lavers. • ' • Mr. §LVIEY r truant to ;mike; vuovell-foritle lettrAre4ii44 jet . .nirioire'inio that Dart Of the 'Poor Laws which related t 6 the einployntent.if able.hadiid peraowiontsirelthoseraceraing..theesfrons. Me Hon. Gendeasan statfethalt• in the northern counOieshbe sps um of poor, _lntin:Wakiistoch better than in'tlirsoathegL In Cuarberiand tiusintai Alone 11. 7d. in the gamthd On the rack rent; in Seem • tber•ware 75.; in the eight asselawawanties- the ,ansooat .of the pow rates was nictiom 'Wiwi he eigitt southern counties of equal POitifiatj.i.v.. the vgiougn was dadble that-runt.- In•the Ybee4lBoo, the pat ier,poptilAtion was:ia _the proportion. ee-anothaincosith the ..whole ,egannonity. :in 1826 alst'llenther lifienine It= re m. 'Th Reports 'of &re 1 00 01 11elieer.: 1 11ineedon'tho PoorSivrs, its 18r/ • 181 g, 444 . 180.4 . i .114 - Eaiigration eninrolttheid/824. - and the Cosaittetetof Criminal Conansitments—Anad . all Cuts carted in impiltibg the degradationtlf the peasantry to, 16 1 1 .eer .14101. 'For these -reasons he tholight wotilef be productive of 'benefit.. Reload. paid mulch .assention to the subject . , .bso. be thodthe happy to hood itioverio, die eared any other Ifori:' Member Willing. twonilertilre It. - he option was then puffin= the Cade sad salved w mg the Ouiedttee waifortbwith apptintsid. ..ORANT TQ TANNINOWFAMILY. Su r : GANT . bretatit up The Report . 6t tbe - Petsto6 Act ndkik DOL On the mottos that tbelteport be agreed to, Mr. HUME :Aid he bid 'before'stated his reasons for not agreeing to therirsat to Mr.Caniing's fainily ; and *since thely additional - reason had • arisen- by the refits.' of Ministers to' icy before the loose as account cif the disposal Of '95,0001.• a year in penaioni by the Crown. It ear possible • that of this money Mr;Canningi l'eleY 'sight :bendy be provided for; and•while that iht vas **from the public, he could not support the Present grant. He bad every respect for Mr. Canning:s Prfrate cbaractei; but until the last two years of - bra I ,,fie -could not approve of any one of his acts but' :trdmapert Of the 'Catholic Question. He then*" that the Report be taken into consideration this els three- months. Mr,. MONCK said he never could admit that grant Plitssie,services bad sot.beenipeiforesekby.Usentleasea oaths side id the - House,. who had wasted astir lives is: opp o i l i t t oo to the measures - of Governmentp-4A 114 but be . never .saw - any attemp t to g i ve any rewa rd• loth patriots— Rethought it. wonld.be gra ta absodos such rewards for civil services altogether, and amen °leo, as wreathe prattled - of theivaaeastors o to military services; he should therefore. oppose the . motion. .1011)1 NEWPORT hoped.rhe Hesse, sifter a twenty.five years aquaintance with him, wosdd *orbit Viers of sirim his vote upon interested motives-- Non, boil. He had always been in political hostility to Mr. Canning till the latter years of his Id& Huai' tonduct 'during those years had, in his mind, created le ken a , debt. samin t sia by this.. coasts y, utast alkeisil tied Ellopet tome& bis•assetasey, that lor should be to himself slid he oat j sii -awafforiard,aud Map-eisia opinion 24 --t-------- • ce aid 'l3t atesoss loropinion Ise !" SY discookoictog had &be op power 'against all liberal institutions:: . 'They were-ins, debted. to Mr. Canning for that, and also- for having emancipated the Republics of South America. For those. and. for other reasons, he thought the country largely indebted to him, and that they were bound . to show it upon the present occasion. The vote of the other night, alluded .to by the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, bad nothing to-do with the question now before the House. He was obliged, at his tune , of . life, to retire from the business at ao earlier hour than he used to do, but had be been present upon that occasion he should certainly have voted for the motion of his Honourable Friend. But they should not forget that among the arguments used against the concealment of the names of persons receiving grants from ;he Pension Fund of 95,0001. it was said that wherever there was a case of merit, that House would always aot with liberality. Here, then, was a fit case for the attention of the House, and- what was the reception it met with ? He would only say, that he-should adopt the same line of conduct_ towards any other public servant as be had done towards Mr. Canning, as a retribution for his public services, wherefore he would vote against the amend ment, although in doing-so he was compelled to differ - from some of his friends in public life, whose views , were narrowed by the financial circumstances of the country, which, however bad he knew them to be; were not so wretched as to be 'unable to afford a testimony of the nature to the services of an old servant of the public. Colonel SIBTHORPE said, he opposed this grant at first, and his opinions . remained. still unaltered. His opposition did not arise from any personal hostility to Mr. Canning, but he did not think the situation of the country warranted him in consenting to a proposition of this kind. Of mach of Mr. Canning's political con dect he disapproved; but, upon this occasion, he was influenced by no consideration of that kind. This grant, if agreed to under present circumstances, must go out unfavourably to the public. Any allusions which might . be made to him for his vote upon this occasion, m con nected with the agricultural interest, he should treat with the contempt they deserved. Mr. VESEY FITZGERALD. said, he was anxious to-bring'the House back' to that spirit to which it was 013 St proper to return. It was desirable that a vote of this sort should be discussed calmly, and without re verting to former debates. He was extremely glad that the Hon. Baronet (Sir John Neerptirt)%had an' oppor tunity of addressing the House. •,#IT Op i knew .tha t Hon. Baronet would ' do him' the credit ' that ..licivnald give the same , vote to the family of a man to whom he. might have been politically opposed, if he had.posses. sect the same talents, and rendered the -same 'Service!. On the grounds of this vote no difference of. opinion should arise. He had been too long a Member of the Government, of which Mr. Canning was a shining Member, as not to differ from- this voice— , His measures of Foreign Policy were supportefly tbe, present Government, and, they had ' properly their share in. its. meats or.idemerits.. The grbuntre of this grant were the unquestioned Public servicea . of Mr.Catming, and his devotion Ao his Xinvand-teebie country, as well as the state in which hitlemilywas.leit by his over attention to-public affairs. On these groan* he was entitled to call upon the House kir this vottt.o.A. Grants of this nature were confined to great men;;lithit; in great and eminent situations, gavithe publican opa portonity of valuing their services—such as Lord-Chab. ham, Mr. Perceval. , andr Mr. Canning ; and -the Hon, Member for Reading need not fear that this . would -be too freqtently drawn into precedent. Thif watfa dons tion, on the part' of the Crown, tia,a . Petytin 'be - 1000" theCroWn, under other cirettinstancea c seoialriltuee.ti tight-to.confer it, The Hon Member tor Reeding amid thus 'he- would- confine such votes 'to she families of-ass tlistiognished for naval:or military services. -Go* forkid that this Country should ever be ieduied to fbrif,ititti, that should not give to civil. services a . due reisMoiLt . 'Sir J. MAClNTOSH:said,.that :tunde s sitanding.4 to be the intention of his Honourable Friend the Meese ber fur Aberdeen to take the'sense of the Hriuseon,fhis motion, he telt it bis dtity to avail himself of 'the' l'Est ,opportunity which Would offer to state the grcitiridt bis eote,.and offer his reasons for disscrning ftonS opinions which were, in his judgmeot,subeetaiee ofetbe: prineiplesof - natiunni rewards and honours- whichtpte. veiled in every civilised nation. He was relieved,' ever, from the necessity of recalling the House tb a 'sense of that calinness which only was sallied to a - question cif this nature, by the example .set, and the topics dwelt upon, by the .Right Hon. Gonda:ma who bad preceded hub. The only ground in which beyviewed it was, that every man in the House (whatever might have been his differences with Mr.Canningyerho believed that the coup try retained the means of doing honour to the memory of inestriotis Statesmen. might vac for the present grant. That was his justification. of. the measures, and tithe vote which he would heartily give iasuppost Of it, In.consider-, ing this question, he thought it should-beeiewedin. this way, that public masks Might alwaysdiebesteered oriel a man who had honestly bestowed bietelents in the way : .he believed tight fOr the public service; tits 4,lresgehoegh to enable the public to -form .a j u dgment both of his talents acid ofthe perky othis motiyes. It.thac maxim were not to be received, sod if he were then asked how he could justify'itis'eme of that night, he should be obliged to say that — titi'mtional honour should' ever be paid. In this canary of-Partiesit would be absurd to suppose that any visas-mho . was eonspicuoutenough to have hit name mentioned, could •possibly have passed through his Career without supporting measures upon which there mould be a great difference of opitlion. If, , therefore, it werenecessary to casein in opinion 0.n.a1l the transactions of a life of 25 or 90 years ; a victorious. laction might give an offering to its chief, but the flatlets never could bestow a national White of respect. The Honourable Member for Reading.wished to recal those times when public honours were solely bestowed upon military services ;.bnt he (Sir James Macintosh) thought that that argument had been refuted by, the Commander .of the Emelt fortlaelandmi that debate—(Hear, hear)—. thetceguesene ishieb would .confine national honours to -what barharnms . might .cope with us in, and would rob [the `nation of cbinecting civil honours with genius and eloquence, .and.alse.arts.of.citiliaed life. Was it thed Itrue that Hotalowsasever to,pass, a vote for best sours upon stiloomeni because there were other sours from which they sight derive benefit? The maim 'of wealth are ahrsaYs.,9ened to .a statesman by tM Clown. and if soch.A.Basa that on, the table • is to be rejected, be will betaeghtto avail' timself of Amu. Was he to be told, - because - of ,differences of opinion With Mr. turas*, that. be wet not a man of the purest hewer s itbich be knew him .to be, or that , he did not posses.. those splendid -talents which -every .one knew were reuoweed throughout Europe? The , conduct of lord Balinghtblie was much more go. -anon is this respect,. for althea ,bt was. spoken to of the character Of' the Doke ef. Marlbeeciugh, who wee t r i 'V eate si adwriorf; hie answer was, " well, be-it ao; but he' is mutant tiltan gar fogget his bolter end '4lasneellliacietash).eisisd,Aat every kiesdb% flosuswendd miry:wan sentioseats thus weed) too; daefeete te -lf eed. anthem wee Pine's* forth happened to be absentiziates Honee'tid ise.leturned is a hurry, end expressed-Ns salisfacliOW *sing tirneenongh to. share in .the bonowsifpaiskeg J Such a vote. Except his Hen, Frietwl..Who spoke ti night, he bad never beard any who condemned that vote to Lord Chatham. Anothee.ciffnitstance elseogp to be considered, and which hpsl.loo to mistake, said thg was the idea that the Lord Chatham, for whom, this vote was pasSed, was the same . as at the e .e 11 44, of the seven years war, . flushed with ari and in the enjoyment of : popularity... The 'fact wa that fot eight years prior to his. death, he ha been engaged in warm, desperate hostility towards Lord North, such as in this day we should be shocked at the idea of. With what power then • might ,L O .l l l North have been attacked, who had voted foi a man who had countenanced rebellion, and, who said, in the House of .Lords, with respect to America, that he rejoiced there were three millions of men who would* arm for their rights. But Lord North had'said, as others ought, that he did not vote for these expressions, but in spite of them. to testify his regard for one.who had rendered great public services. .There was nothing in the cases either of Mr. Pitt, or . Mr. Perceval which ; afforded room for observation the votes in both theie cases were unanimous; and if we examined the names to the protest againstihe vote 'to the former, none of those would be fount amongst them whom the Hon. Member tit. Reading.-would be...disposed to take as his model. The name of the great Lord Camden wo uld not be foitild,7 . neithei wouldtbatthat of 'the Duke of Richmond; but tls r elifter ivetildlre seen endeavouring, zealously em ployediit tariyingtherineasure through, in favour of the very **nest 10111114 am he Was last engaged in coin bat. He was ashamed to have trespassed so long on the House, but be didsomerely to show.ths grounds of his vote, namely , pur i ty of conduct, great* talents, and a suffiiieney Of time in theft - employment to. make the public sufficient judges; and on these grounds he.would , lon his 'tom He would not say that• persons might not also 'be swayed by anziliaryeaotiem.such as .private friendship, which, though not lawful, as tie only mo tives to support a public measure, might'be admitted as an auxiliary to sweeten its performative. ' Personal -enmity, however, was not a legal auxiliary- in the op. position 'to any measure; for all such feelings should be laid aside, and not resorted to on any subject. It should be bornejn minclohat !' mors .obrall irqs, ' and every feeling of an hostile nature ought to 6e ariiji guished.. He thought the Right Hon. Baronet near him "his iti itatidrall a' Man's public life as the ground of "his vote, although one part of it might no doubt; be more particularly pleasing.,,and therefore an auxiliary in' inducing persons to give* 310te t b ut the converait i did not hold with equal • strength. W hatever Over ffeill , incongruity thete miglit•aOhr id this' beide of reniiin inv . there - ides' jig real iftictitisisteacy id it. • Ifeisoeld abstain ',Own - 04614. on many other grgilitdii - bgt it .rtented the Ilona. to consider wheiben they, lad. 'ever read with despises:ire the sentiments of- a great 'net upon two characters who had been violent antagonists, When Ip.spokl of ' 7 ' - - • ... a Zatteret's atileiltind; soil ikalbapes noble sense: ' ' . , ::. 11irlissireriosiel'satentele taliensooltusl the snare " : - . .f.. .:tii Poe 44 out owp,age alsop and Who wisneaer set rimed of,,litkeearynness.to his party, said - . v . I . - 0 tii #Pal iii lin triVe the tear. . •. : !:,,,::'!.. , L.,9wal obtirlo. to Ills-risol's Um." ~ t -.,1, ..,.- - 4 1 1410rdlieflISPC4those ia Aid. of his atitslllo4•OTT. they - wilt consistent with the common Arse rutd..t_ . fee !4t 'nf,Minknid; oil 'the iyinpathy_With' Aid ;he peet . M m. the iettitirl Of liii - wotks. He Would abstain. ,ford ibrendiot astrloagir , on the good sense of- the' i_ bur am sestekl..,o%, that it ehis question were -1 • ght.Auwagl.in 7, p14 be would have given the same , lond i for the came teasone. He would also abstain f :in 'AO iiiiitt, trlifli retpect to those who differed hi' 'Opihiciefibili'llillii sitt, if he were not inclined to do 'to . • that iceonnweresteeld ftimt respect to/Mr. Cenniago li zr saltseqqw. t helooned •to the bibtorita.. He bad _ . ic h ..,-44, 0 44 , ORR 4 FhiP, , w . with Mr. P4oninig—Pas, Wh ca u sed him to fait the deepest. !merest in eve/ thing. ihOt tbaltraohihibur to his' name ' pricithe on . teiveitrfiairrfeltild'irakrone Which be plizeit above I otlsevi•i-oht isontinoance of. that trieodshipAtobroken. -. 1 ' ; Mr. : 4O4lBralg4X- . muted . that the House would. ullo*hisu,io afew.erords to express the,groupds upon' which he *as determined to support the proposed grant to:the far:Ail% Nis Cid - mink. The Right Hon. and. 'Untitled GenfleMeribed put•upontbe (*ink end kismet grounds the degree ofavetght-whichwas due -to thise. auxiliary essittiderations ..wilich should be ,allewed to influence the-votes of Hop. Meinbiej dividing on it sr*, lion like lie preseet. He - ad just!y said, that pnoste friendship might - be admitted - as one of those, int he:, for ode, *at not only proud 'to avow the influence of l, but even.ofgratitude Land did he. consider . himself at liberty.to do so.. he cmildeasily illubttate,not only the greatness pleated, but the kindness ofheal t, by which the eminent individuid lii - giiistion was diitin.+ guished. As in economy, of WhiCh so anith.had been 'said, he really thought• it absurd to waste the. time of the House in combatting the arguments derived from it. Hetet was a nation that, in the gouts* of . fifteeo years, had been relieved from 39,000,0001. of tales, yet was stated not to possess the power of gilaitiiig 5,0001. a.' year to proside for the• fa inily L otone Of its most eminent public, servants—not out of its ordinary income, bm out of a fund otherwise at the disposal of the Crowe. ,fie Hou.Membet for Reading bad referred .to „periods in' nui-bissory - when none but naval and military services mere - rewarded ; but it should be remembered that the periods of which be spoke were extremely remote— some qf them 700 .years ago—when, in point of fact. Omni were no civil services at a 11... In more recent and . better times, numerous .instances- could be adduced of - 'civil services being so rewarded out of the public revenue; and if Hon;Gentlemerkwoold take the trouble to tax their memories a little, they would find that many of a the noble families at tbepresent times were indebted to the reward the civil services of their ancestors fOr.their own sta tion in society. It was one result of die working of the British Constitution that it had the effect of 'removing from the House of Commons to- the Peevagemen. or the descendants of men, who had rendered great public services, There bad, perhaps, acarcelyever oxisted a case jn which a . juster occasion arose than the case Of Mr. Canning. He, from the peculiar institutions :of the country, could not have been removed to the 'higher rank of society, seeing that his presence was coastantly demanded in the lower - branch of the Le , A i s lature. Was it not right that at least his family - aiould rer.eite that dignity to which confessedly he wis entitled, and which Would have 'been conferred upon him did not 'the . practle of our Government , .interfere with it ? It had been the common prep- Aim, in -seam like the peesent.sto grant pensions for their lives. -and though he would not compare the public services of Mr.r t anning with those - of the Ditk Of Wellington, as semilHoltouriible Members had do yet , hii would feirlestip. appertho Vie House, dad ePelakilmrabtetileakbere-tb •proveif they could, the .the:seerieu* of 'Guy Ikisiga.,Lotd, whose family were 4a ,PoilePion of, a peneiop.for their lives, had surpassa4 loose of Mr: :Canning. There were not, of ihegrounde oissitid insupport Of - the present motion by the Ri liOnAutdileaructitituitemau - opposites um which hi (Alr..) would not bate. williegly tuppottysl.; . and in . .reference to'what fell hem the - Hon. Mengstr-ter *5. : , set, he would say; that if any porpgnoy Ale* enCir., Canning could draW from himeapresithlt e esairo• bation, it would be shat in which he ha:4 - t lamaelf to the viert of that' ionourable Member s , Mr. D. W . HARVEY 'aunt agreed witit the Hong Member t who had gone . before lfilti, that irtbbf 'Wert, not to make a gra \ nt. to a public servaitt ‘ . mill, as tht relent proposed - geant, unol talents- equally splendid, , should appear, then indeed along time might be ee-.. • clod to elapse; but it was not from any apprehensing . derived from the probable frequency of such becur .4)e renCes he should oppose it, but upon grounds %tits dV- ferent. When he considered the public lives of thesis Honourable 'Members by whom the grant was sup- potted, he could got help remembering thatthey i had ig every instance opposed the measures of Mr. Canoing 7, ' nor could he erase from his mind the inspresston ' which the character and conduct of Mr. Canning had upon the fate of the country—nor could he torget that that distinguished individual had on every occasion. manifested the most bitter and uncompromising hostility to every measure connected with the true inteiestt of the people. Never was the stream of his untameable elo quence directed more forcibly than when it flowed in . that course—never did man indulge in more savage and brutal derision of the corporeal infirmities of * fellow citizen, thin did the person whose memory it . ' was now sought to honour at the 'expense of that . people, against whom he had ever shown himself hos- ' tile, It was alleged that it was the contempt of pecu niary concerns, the total disrega'rd of self interest,.by' which he was distinguished, that made the present grant necessary. That statement appeared scareelfy,. consistent with the eagerness with which that Rtgh; Hoo. Gentleman seised upon an opportunity of gouge r ' to Lisbon at an expense to the country of 14.0001. 'lf the services of the individual, in question were really so great and splendid, why should the Session be allowed to linger almost to its termination—why should no step have beentaken till Right lion. Gentlemen were altnoet' forced, Reit Weald appear, into doing something, by: the notice Which a Noble Lord had given ? Heconf: fessed.he * felt the greatest surprise at seeing the prop°. '. sition supported' by Hon. Members prolessing WW4**:. principles, when he recollected the number of years dal.. -. . , ing'which the whole stream of' Mr. Canning's elOgaetrok; hid been stirected against them and"tpeir friends; it4si • when he recollected too, that on their forming aktionr ne4tiori with hiat,on elate .occasion, he had.sliet :44 to them with an . air of stiperitrity,- Which 4tl aral*L home, fqtantl it dif fi cult to forget . He wis'tiatspit i lie4 lie finding Lipp. Memhers ,so toe"' lose si g ht al: "the i nterit ferm opposition of Mr. tanning to every ittealitriXiC" reform /r ag soots overlook his expressid . deteiteinaelitif -- to resist.the repeal' of the .his and Teat' . Ao,lo l . L . .No one mire , admired the ° splendid buists. of cloy**, .With which he Watt-iiccattanted - to delight, but, at _Ebb!: assure - time, lie rineleht,iftrre" alter tifr Me -- mttelstereleatZ elfects which hiiCtrihdip)hq cllgrac ter, .and istweven titiled oponthe country. • : - Dr. PHlLfrMthig - iiiiiplititdzlice-Igierit?-atieFetil liirged upon the public chide:it of Mr. Canning in terms of the }liaises' 09u iellionandrespect. He denied that that distinguished individual had been influenced 'by Ai, motivaseacept those : proceeding frolothe.. utmost exakelkloire of.,country,.and that .ennobling 401441 postburnoucrenown, from which-the greatest &cootie" • avery.age and country had arisen. , • • • •Tanicts.thanar Irma the pure spirit dads raiso . ..., . - .. oit , To spurn drlitlsts, and tirlsJiorioms days , ~,,. . .. It. was:impossible to, give credit 'Aube assextion,thae .iftie love of money could infleireee,e loins! and; feelinge., m constituted‘ and it .was inspnetible to ,suppine Oat 'a British House of Commons could' deny tOtrasela. - . 0,404, so slight a restimtiny Grits filotitdde : lloo? dasitll64lll: ,si t : Sir GEORGE MUR itA,yentreated the if onselttteciekig eider the debt which it Itial,contrecaecitp.!fiti c 0 , 6 - 'gird entreated them to itecellect hop trittra:M "tft ft . * t hate beep tohisfe . nlMislirbeti.quitting lifergbeehpit that a British : l4*e 'of - Cdotmone woilid.have Of I to make ihet.peovition tor lik-wife and labillY w 1 the devotion ofilit builtapd to the irrices of .the..wu L try had 'incapaiitated himself froth acqui t itit 114eMW 9f creating. if varies of .this, nature were.iefiseeti, •• pie of the most powerful means of stimulating the s e} of youthful:aspirant* to' the publie.seciriceortoulk lost. He courd - have but . one motive for wishing il - the present question should. be pressed to it divkies % namely, that the memory, of the deceased would bens. much honoured by 7 some persons endeavouring - to With. hold it, as by the cordial vote in its favour which othiee: would feel bound to give.. His :undying fame -w drag their names along with it to future ages,. with degree of celebrity' that nothing in themselvel.e..o ever have conferred. - Mr. LIDDELL said, that with reference to whit.:ha4 fallen from the Hon. Member for t ofchesier, 'with re spect to the Manchester massacre, if any man cOnsideveit the history of that time, Mr. Canning's speech's°, 'Mos duct would not justify the terms that the HbnottraMe Member had used. On the other occasion (then 41- 10gded) Mr. Canning had used some words indisereet4 which he afterwards regretted. but they were extorte'd 'front him by the manner in which evidence on that tie. Casion had been perverted and falsified. The vote 'was called for not on the ground of- Mr. Canning's talent!,, ,but that be had detoted those talents for 28. years to the service of the country. He was also a representative rf the people ; and he should glory in his.aupporting the present vote: ". 'Mr. BATLEY•aaid the whole British nation would. be disgraced, if the great and-brilliant public services of Mr. Canning were not rewarded. . . The Hon:-Mr. CUST said, if he had not given Mr, Canning support, it was becanse . that Minister displayed 1 that ambitionlwhich constantly produced disunion, H. opposedbito while: living, but he had then no opposition to his memeitT.,4letiOught the grant should be made. and that tfieechintry was indebted to him for his service. Mr. MAXWELL supported the grant, and said, 'it did honour to the Ministers of the day. . 1 ' . Mr. STUART gave big cordial support toile Bill. .1 : 4 Sir R. FERGUSON thought the debate had tan a remarkable:turn. It was governed, in his opinibb, by personal feeling. The House ought to recollect tiilltht was a constitutional question, and his opposition:wan founded on a constitutional principle. He hecLaikam mity to Mr. Canning, but opposed the visit upota i e sense of duty. . • Mi. P. THOMSOH eve 'his opposition to 'I& grant on constitutional principles. The etpdtettle . siwoct '- observations mad. on the vote ,given hpAe-..ntioority would, no doubt, provea strong iodate/Noe mone again the same wet. Jig shopld eote for the jpotieo Of his Hon. Friepd, tiff Member . for A.be "ittle . ' • ' .. i Sir JAMES SFALRLETT.h.4 .That , un d esit i ill i i b e. Gallant 91ficer teimputaaay Wi, irapsopar#l4.l4l9 Geolenbeanho Imam** against t a pe ,remeilikkg4l.- stinitionid gravads. , iiiisiabantry laconmaapdaltioenlas touch to his frianda,,a}hia gau d imp i p a d e . bjviklita i suisliad in tha,coalarsy. • att. aila44 ,be 14 1 041 0 1 6441 thoaa who, jellaba F.glebuta,l44l..geks44l4*4ll7la .itbich.rl4l,Eoulli.posiditscolkek , --.'- --Alta,,G .. • .. • • • „ r ‘ nice at the eminent. services of the de• bale i man by his vote—(Hear,bear,lalar). la be (Sir lubdiors . lhod. Isipootaersiecta-waaakiad of that at this edisert.tow dlepertice thieit a, p with the Ifoly AThaitto 'of - leaguing Lord