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„~, ~..__ to take every six weeks instead of three months, in ordet IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. to fix the duty. . ..... .. ' s ort i e Earl ...A...LAUDERDALE Opposed with the .. HOUSE OF LORDS. Jiang IS. greatest reluctance any , mealsure proposed by his Noble . . sessaoe TAM THE DOX/IMltilt i Friend. He gi v e f ull credit to his Noble Petered for an Sir A. Ornate and tubers, brought ' up a Copy of the Repornintention td prcintote the welfare of all claiies of his made by tee Select Committee appointed in the Sessions of 1884, Majesty's subjects, and he felt confident that his Noble ro take intoonsideration the Salmon Fisheries...of-Scotland and the Fri end United EinAom. Also the Appropriation Bill for applying the would -give the same credit to He did not e urp e o -oesee,ways and'Means for 1828. - expect to hear from any Member of this; House . the Lord= DtYNSTANVILLE presented a PetitiondronxSalts. sestets:Dies to which he and others bad formerly been ash, in Cornwall, against Slavery. e xposed-calumnies which impulato'llehr thee/eign ' • Lord MAYNARD presented a Petition from the Colchester o f Agricultural Auociatioo, against the proposed Seek of Duty on the upholdingmonopoly. a for their. own private ince- Importation of Forriern Corn. rests, against the community at large. This would be LordIROWNLOW presented a Petition from Lincoln, for an extraordinary monopoly which gave a free marker the Repeal of the Bin restricting the circulation of Small Notes. to all.the corn which could be grown in the United Lowe DUNCAN presented a Petition from the Gentry, ship- K ingdom . , In the year 1815 he had been told by the oweenonerchants, owners and occupiers of land, of Dupdee, against the proposed sca l e o f d ut y o n the importation of Foreign Noble Lord then at the head of the Government, that Corn. The Petitioners objected to this Bill on account of the very it was intended to establish a prohibition tip to a Noble high rated' duty proposed, and prayed their Lordships to adopt a price. He at once said, that if such was the Noble fixed scale of duty. In these sentiments the Noble Lord concur. Lord's intention he might rely upon his support, red. lie objected in toto to the graduate d scale. The only mode and of giving s a tisfaction to the community at large on this subject, was he opponent app onent of the Administration ealed to the . flouse whether, he ha d , aloug gi eneral ven ly to adopt a fi xed scale at an infinitely lower rate . _ an not The Marquisof EXETER presented a Petition from the owners them a fair support in respect to that measure? The and occupiers of land of various parishes in Lincoln, for adequate law then established had, as the Noble Duke informed protection to Agriculture: Tbe Duke of RICHMOND presented a Petition from the them, been frequently interrupted ; but he firmly be lemon and occupiers of land in Sussex, praying for protection lieved that those interruptions generally proceeded less' against the • enormous importation of Foreign Wool.. The Noble from the necessity of the case than from a desire to Lord subseqmenly moved that 'this Petition be referred to the Se- make a case against the existing law. There were three lees Committee. L o rd KING presented a reddest from the Protestant D i ssen- classes of petsons entertaining different opinion,. upon ten of itoniton. Devon, thanking their Lordships for the measure this subject. Some contended in favour of free trade ; they had passed in relieving the Protestant Dissenters from the others, of whom he was one, were in favour of prop - Mobilities under which they laboured, and praying their Lord- bition_pi to a certain price, and this had been the sys-, ships to pass a Molter Act with respect to the Roman Catholics,' and thereby pet an sod to aU religious antositee.—(Lasighter.) rem of - the country for upwards of one hundred years llse Margate of BUTE revolted a Petition from Neath, Gla- previous to 1815; for he thought the Noble Duke made aserptishire, stalest Ilbvery. i a distinction here without a difference, inasmuch as it Upon the motion of the Earl of Su...reassert, the Covent- made no difference whether the prohibition was express D anko Martin Im BUI was read a third time. Lord ROSEDE tRY emovedthat the Home be summoned for or whether it Was effectecfby means of a duty clearly Monday next, upon his motion respecting the Scotch •Settlentent Kohibitive.- The third class consisted of those who Bill. - would cheek the importation of foreign corn by mean s The .Maggels of I,ANSDOWN presented Pet i t i ons . from the .- or ' a due l . With respect to a free trade in corn , it was Idanufactuters an d Workmen of Berk., for the Diminution of . an i m p os sibility, or, if possible, it would am o u nt to a Taxation on the Imponoltian of Foreign Corn. Also a Petition twat the Ownersond Occupiers of Land in Lincoln, for Protection senteece of starvation upon the people. The lairds of on British Wool. Also a Petition from South Shields, against this country, under such a system, would inevitably be Slaveey. Ala Petitions from Mookwearmouth, Kingsbridge, and thrown out of cultivation , and when the foreign supply Devonian, Devonshire ; Whitby; in the county of York, and failed , fail . Vorminstee, for the gradual extinction of Slavery in the West as it would, starvation would be the conse lodine; niso,nitions from Chesterfield and Nottingham against quence. The Noble Earl here referred at great length theabolition of f imall Notes; in the sentiments of which the Noble to historical instances, ancient and modern, in con Mavis begged to say he did not concur ; and also a Petition from mation of his opinions. He proceeded to refer to the the Practitioners and &edam in Medicine and Surgery of Ports- . • nomok p omeo , and &elms. praoorfo i she removal of au trial with of Ireland, and contended that our connexion obenationkto the study a Anatomy. with that country imposed upon us a duty which we Tile Earl of 'FALMOUTH presented a Petition from Calling- were bound in justice and policy to discharge. The ise% lesepiebY4 _Co rnwall, against the iinPrt'dm of Foreign surface of Ireland was capable ot producing -an *bop wool; aos ta.Petition true the same paw:against any further cose daut supply for a much greater population that she.yet endue nether Roman Catholics. o rs MID causes 10.4111GATION DILL. . had. What was the great injury which the present B ill On she ad o -Cedar Day Woe read for receiving the Re p ort on had p roduced? He had been told in 1814 that he eras 1i1i4611, ing to vote for a measure which would p revent wheat The $ u d. eSH AFTESBURY suggested that a clause ought to roan ever being lower than SOs. a quarter. He knew this be introduced. regulating the proceedings of the Company. When tut ac ti n g Bui for ceasing ails sang, was brought in , i n the e rn was not so,. and how had the fact turned out to he?— year of the reige.of the present King, the Company got a clause The average price of wheat since that period had been' leamaidoshick indemnified. he Company, and all the.proprieto r s 655. and the aver a g e p rice for the last year 'was only! of wharfs and Land adjacent to the canal, tram bing assessed m the S . T . - . Now, was any man in , that House prepar e d to peers' mtes at a-higher rate than 'the propr i et ors of surrounding `'' Linde, pad as the proprietors were now coming to Parliament to ask contend that ,571. a quarter was too high a pr i ce ? The ter kaisprieileges, it .was only fair that they should be compelled country at this time wished for no alteration, and When to give up this claws I n their original Bill, and thus put those con- change was the most urgently demanded, the Peti amid web the (vet so the same footing as all other proprietors tioners to that House - never failed to add to their Yeti-. et ploperey in the swiebt oarbood. tiens a prayer for Reform of Parliament , and for the Die of uwasanALK said that this Bill asked for no thing weer. .The air Merely asked for leave to cut another canal, abolition or reduction of pensions and salaries. unless dad be saw no reason why they should in consequence forego any was no reason whatever fur the present measure, unless previously t eamed m them for another purpose• it could be thought a reason that it corresponded bee 911=1, HA lINCLI FFR opposed the clause, as be thought the edgiest Agars of the proprietors ought not to be interfered with ; ter with abstract philosophical theories. The great evil o u t e a - v oodoo' that the Bill, as it at present stood. would be of the proposed change was, that its effects could not tip* api just _to auearties. He therefore, if the question was b e accurately foreseen, and that farmers Could not, if it reseed, would go to a division on the subject. were to pass, safely take leases. Now, if one thing was Lett TENTIIRORN supported t h e a mendment. The waist more essential then any other to the prosperity of this w,as a HUI for minting new powers—namely. for cutting a new lie of eanai,,and if the original protection was granted to them, country, it was the steady and secure .progress of es wade ho manifestly unjust, for property in the neighbourhood agriculture, and this they could not hope to have if of db. am* malt as wharfs, &c. was certainly more valuable than farmers could not make some rational calculation in so Ober property ; in fact, ins value never could be properly as- " ~. farms. The effect of this Bill 'would be to d e . eerwearl; but to say that 4 wharf was only to pay a rate the same mtag as anstise balite; occupying the same s e ace of g round, situate at fraud the farmers in seasons: of scarcity of 'the price a *steam was evidently unjust, for the wharf, from as situation, which ought to compensate him for the deficiency of meg* be womb.SOCIL per year, when the other building might not his crop, by bringing into competition with his produce, , be womb erat a year; he therefore considered she present clause as stalP fair and jun. the produce not of one country, but of every country Lost 11.0511Lirel onward the Atinodment. He contended in the world—the produce not of one season, but of a tku there was sae"? adoillsee anise for repealing the indulgence great numbest of preceding :fawns. He did not be mire* granted to the Colopaols and therefore should support the lievethat the occasional interruptions which the present Bill as it migieady acad. system had met with. had been eecessary. they had After a few words from the Earl of Swanussuor sad Lard numbers divided upon the Anrimunts when been taken lit enmity to the exisiing law. The admix the numbers were, foe the origiall' bill — sion of 500,000 quatters of wheat upon one occasion Con eras .• . • • 14 had been shown by . subsequent events to be sunices• Non Ciessets .. . . . 46 carer. Upon this occasion Government ought to have . Majoeirr agaiest the Amendment . - 42 The Repent was then *coved. waited uatil the necessity had arisen. But the g reat . - coati BILL. dread.ot.respontibility on the past of Ministers had ht- The Duke of ViIIi.LLING lON slid, that in moving duced them to apply to Patlignsent foe a prospective that this . Bill be now read a second time, it would net enactment, and Parliameet had pawed an Act which be necessary for hiss to trouble their Lot debits* at any implied that its untieious its prophetic the law , e th discrtion n even great length, .as be had at an ear lier p eriod of the Se:- was a better gr. of spending a t Won had an opportunity of opening the subject, and un- discretion pf the Privy Cooped, to be 'exercised at a folding to.tbew Lordships the principle of the measure, subsequent period, with ilea knowledge of -all existing which it was the intention of his Majesty's Government facts. There was another peke Upon which he must to propose. The principle of the Bill was all that .the offer one cibservation, and that was the warehousing Howse was now called upon to decode. The principle system. This system, advantageous es applied to many of the Bill was todeibstitute a protecting duty in lieu of branches of commerce, was desahletive when a ppli e d -the-prebitsittne.np - to a certain price, enforced by t he to corn, and to such a degree asigpounterbalance, to law as it now Stood. It oughtio b e observed, the sys- outweigh all that bene fi ts which,lit Other re described c by the Act of 1815, sir to which period the as a compromise between the agricultural and manufac inspeesetion of fortis") can had been regulated by du- curing lowest'. There was ho necessity . fox any such ties.. It oat ht tirAiabeetved also, that the system of compromise. for the two interests were not, and could prohibition had beeekfound very inconvenieet, and that not be. at variance; mod so. intimately were the mese— under this slims% it had frequently - become necessity facturers bound up with the general vekfare.cflbe, for Government to interfere to suspend the operation of country, that be had so doubt that elan would be the the liar , either by proclamation , . which was an illegal fi rst to petition their LOPiglips for shiaaspeat of this stretch of the . Iloyal prerogative r .or by applying t o measure, as boon as its operation began to be felt. But' Parliament to procure the enactment of a temporary this was not a compromise; it was, he believed, ititeeds law, in order to protect the interest of -the labouring ed, not by the Noble Duke, but by others,' as an intetee cleises, and to avert the distress of scarcity when the mediate experiment, a resting place, Sr their.• etiogrieSs country was threatened with at. It Ought to be observed towards the establishment of free trade. Now, be asked] that the Bill was similar is principle to that of last year, the Noble Lewd art the cross bench, what good- the syse which so tar as its principle went, -had received the tem of free trade had done? Had it promoted the solid :sanction of their Lordships. The object of that measure prosperity of the country, or had it even so far pre well of the present, was to put an end to a system which vented smuggling as to enable him to, diminish the bed been tuned, by - experience, unfit to be constantly goard which sorrounded our coasts? ea f arc ed, and wad given occasion for irregular interfe- Lord Viscount GODERICH staid, that having been Fences which were injurious to the country, and in a appealed to by the Noble Earl, he was perhaps called pecuhar degree disadvantageous to the agriculturists. en to take the earliest oppoetuaity of addressing a few These ihtelleretwee ha. , on • several occasions, excited words to their Lordships upon the proposed measure. great disiativiction among the agricultural classes. It He was what the Noble Lord called an advocate of free was therefore thought expedient to cemeto such a settle- trade, but no farther than as the point front which they meat of tie question as. might do away with the necese ought to- set out in all poi tical reasoning, and as the sity for any such illegal interference, Or subjecting fo- ground-work and principle of their commercial policy, reign corn to such tegulations arscould be peisnanently , for he was at' the sante time aware that as applied to the and' invariably eutinced. On all these gtoundsher complicated relattotts and affairs of this country, the commended their. Lordshipsto agree to the secoud read- pule and abetrai prples of free trade could not log of the Bill. Oa the pleeerit occaSiee it was -opener Ipisoijbles twontoeced co their full Went, but must be votary far him to discus:a - the proposed amount of duty. various!" . and mtittrially moed. The choice with it had been fixed with a careful and animus Meat on. Respect to, the subject urnabdiately odder consideration, to the interests ut all classes of the community. lie was between a system of Po4ce iwohibition, and of a t r usted it had been fixed in a manner whichiviauld afford protenting del T. Nww, the Noble Lord appeared to progress df dee agticulture of this stmt satisfaction, and he would not now anticipattanys , think 'bathe great ehjectures which might be utged ; but it: any altesetioo gauntry bateeskete place under the peobibitore syste . m. in the amount of duties should be proposed, Le tatitrid l i he fact arm diametrically tote reverse. Up to 1815 -dies have an opportunity of being heard it, supigrt of there was-a duty of'24s. till the pricerose above 55:. and the measure as it stood. The only alteration lis the Then the duty was reduced all at once to half a crown. fteseure, since he had explained it to their Lorrifigsips s & *gig m i me e a uttoode . graduated w e e i n every pr i m related to the averages, which it bad been determined of view more advisable. lie COM at* agree with'ths { -• ~~ ~ Are Noble Lwd in thinking that the frequent interference of rhe Exidnesurpovernmeit was not improper and iiiischieroui.dffng; He thought tamest a power over the food of the people andthe interests of all the land :Jords-ind farmers of the country, 'ought not to be left in else hands of any Government. The interferences hacink in any instance been recommended to Parli.- - men t from a desire to undermine the existing system on the part of the King's Ministers. This would have been a worthless motive indeed : the system of whieh the Noble Lord was so enamoured, had produced the most violent fluctuations, the prices having been alternately intolerably high, or ruinously low. He had last year addressed their Lordships upon the principle of a, Bill similar in its principle to the present, and al though the changes made in the details had not his ap prob dim, yet so great was his desire to see a settle ment of die question, that he should in that view, if in no other, sopport the Bill. Tee Earl of MALMESBURY should say a very few words upon the present occasion. The apprehension he entertained from the present measure was, that it would lead to an immense influx of foreign corn. He was a lways in favour of a prohibition up to a certain moderate price, but he was now more confirmed in his opinion than ever. A Itigit Honourable Get,tlemar, in am they place, whe„ no doubt, unclei,t mood the sub ject well, had admitted that t ley had made an error in the calcul , t•ons upon which the measure of last year was frameti, and therefore an addit onal protection was given in the Bill of t 'is year. But how was he to know that the calculat4in was now correct, or that the pre tection now offered would prove sufficient? His great object was to keep the country independent of foreign supply. Ni thing could effect this, or enable the British farmer to know when he was safe, but a prohibi tion. Such was tie power of speculation, that corn would frequently be imported and sold ultimately at a loss. Yet by these losing specula ons the British farmer was sure to be a sufferer. The averages, as now taken, were not the fair averages of the kingdom. Irish corn ought to be included in them. There was another topic to which he Mint bea to call their Lordships' attention. The islands of Guernsey and Jersey were not treated as pasts of the empire, and hence might arise oppoitinti ties for similar frauds t those which had recce tly taken place in the Isle of Man. The est 'tit of agricultural distress was not known. He did nr t particularly allude to the relations between landlord and tenant, but to a most meritorious and suffering class of men—he meant the small landowners, who farmed their own land. AU those whose estates were less than fifty pounds a year were reduced to beggary ; they were in a worse situa tion than day labourers. He .was nr t a ware of any mischiefs which had arisen since 1822, which ought to induce them to make so violttit an alteration ,of their system as to substitute for a positive prohibition up to 70s. this graduated scale of duty. The dmiestic pro 'duce of tore country was sufficient for its coniuMption, Mind if not, alley had an immense resource in their gra nary of Ireland. „Jr gave him swat pain to oppose any measure which. had the saisttki:bf Ake Noble Duke at., the We:l4ot • his • Majiarte Geveritheik who possessed Ifis.bighiit con fi dence and respect; but on a question of this vital importance he could not yield up his own', .conviction in deference to any person.whatever. • Lord KING felt assured that the present would ntt be the final settllement of this question. He, for his pant, opposed the 13i11, because the scale of duties was altogether tog high. He took that opportunit.y.of giving .the BMW 181.5 his particular malediction. Justice Arad never been done to the otiginil sinner, whoever t "was, that could boat of the pat ertage of that Intik sure.• lie wasn•terly surprised at the impudence of a Bill, the 4v i dent Object of ,which was, to kpep the Oleo of .wheat at 80s.'in'the country, - when it was 00e more than 30s. or 47x. on the Centinent. Ifia IV- not been for the assistance which *e derived 'from Inland, that Object **sold have been effected. If the Noble Earl meant - to my .that an increase was ro t .ke 'place in the' price of torn in propottion to the increase of taxation, the manifest inference was, that the owner of land was • to betanere completely harmless, no matter what might be the name or amount of the publieburthens. Ode debt and taxation May increase, but the landowner most not bear his share of the burthen. • The Noble Earl's argument went that length. He (Lord' King) fully agreed in the proposition, that there wire not two: interests in . the Country, but, on the contrary; that ifre iatereits of - all were one and the same in the long run. Bet the landowners did. not appear to be convinced of the truth of this -axiom, and the contest was carried; on not so 'triuch between the landlords and any one cther classiof the communty, but between the land= lords and the general prosperity of the country at large. If jotelanhance the price of corn, you reitid the pros, perity of the country. What was it that limited die prosperiteof any country—what . ..hut . the enhanced ptiCe sOffood and the increasing, coif of producing They thuternised the price of labour; and necessarily diminished , the produce of capital.: .11). propOttion as the price asf• fdod and lab Our was high,..in the - same proportiont were profits rendered low, and the prc -gress of wealth and industry diminished. Ili, Noble Friend" stated that there were such persons in , the world as 'visionaries in politics and philosophy. No doubt there were ; but he (Lord King) begged love to say, that he did not consider himielt such a phi losopher. orpolitirfan. There were heresierand depu tes from the true faith in politics as well as religion, • he nested he was orthodox in both. The true faith in politics he held to be this—to allow free trade in every thing; and this was not with him a speculative, but a peattical belief—and irethis sense he held Flood works to . be the true faith. The second article of his , 1 mlitical•crechembraced the annihilation of all mono polies of every description ; and the third article meted strongly against private and peculiar advantages granted to 'one class at the expense of all othersfrom .which abominable practice hesincerely hoped thisHnuse might be delivered. He was not sure whether the Noble' Lord had not, on the whole, gained an advantage in the present Bill-s-'-;he had got a high prices and given up the warehousing system, which had never been effectually acted on: He should not trouble the House further on the subject• at present. He only wished to enter his protest against the high and unreasonable duties im. posed on the importation of foreign corn by this Bill— s measure to which he never could . agree, and which he considered any thing rather than a vermanent one. Lord blaessarrev explained. • Lord LAUDERDALE said; he did not mean to ar gue the question. He rose merely to say, that the ground on which he and the President of the Council (Lord Bathurst) supported the measure of 1815 was, that 80.. was to be a maximum, and not a minimum. • Lord GODERICH.saId the question was then certainly argued' on the principle that ens. was to be a maximum. • Lord KING said it might have been so argued, but it wan cent gainly nut so intended. • The Marquis of BRISTOL said the interest of the landowners could never be opposed to that of the great body of the community. Prices Which remunerated the producer were equally beneficial to all classes.' When prices were high 'they saw large towns cangla cut, and' goaptOimptdiented eVery-kind: making a rapid progress. Every branch of trade pro l e 'piked with the prosperity of agrietslture, been's. h t truth the home market for manufactures was worth all others. Price was nothing i what the poor man wanted Was plenty; if he could procure that, no matter what the price might be. The great principle which the 1 4 .• gislature should have in view was, as far as possible to make the soil support all the inhabitants. This pl= . could not be departed from without lari.ng t h e f , Lion of ruinous fluctuation, and endangering th e co . 'I taints , of supply. It .was not as a landowner, but isy• Englishman, he should bealways desiroustoencoutage the landed interest, the great source of their power and independence.. The consequence of large 4oreign sup . plies of corn would be to increase indefinitely the tae. nufacturiog population, and when these supplies ce ase d that population was necessarily thrown into a state ( 4. distress. By encouraging the principle o! producing from the soil a su ffi ciency for the population, the ag e d') cultural population would bear a due IroPor lion to t he manufacturing, and the country would not be left de.• pendent on foreign growth. The i ttect of not ena ue . raging their own produce was to leave the country d e , rodent on a precarious supply from foreign parts, ov er which they could have no controul.. This Bill hal a tendency to set bounds to such a supply, and he should' therefore give it his support. Earl STANHOPE said, he should confine himseifia• the principle of the Bill. The Noble Duke (of Wel. lington) had so cle.arly shown the necessity of protecii ee for the agricultural interest—tor the . i'irtelet of I nlay. and indeed for the general interests of the country, that it would be unnecessary for him to 'go in t that panel the subject. He should, therefore, assume VT principle of protection 'as proposed. He could nut, how eeet , help observing that this doctrine was SUppO.IA by the respectable authority of Mr. , J-acob.—CHere the Noble Lard read a passage from Mr. Jacob's Report, stating that if it should be necessary to import a great p' rtioa of the necessaries of life, there was no probability that they could be furnished by other countries without a heavy advance of price—athat they mutt, therefore, de. Pend on their own agriculture. If their own sup pl y should prove insufficient, the deficiency could not be filled up without great loss.3—The Noble Lord pro. ceeded. He must deny that the principle of prohibition was a new one. In the year .16.73,.. under Char les 11, ti taw was passed prohibiting the importation of to the price of 535. and imposing a di ty of a,. Thi s . caking into consideration the present rate of money, was' equal to 84s. The consequence war, tharagiicultdre pidly improved, and the supply was santiund.tnissus, enable them to export. The crnsequence'of the contrary System arcs to leave them dependant on foreign conntriel. la an evil hour, in 1756, the principle of 1673 ens . departed from, and from that time to 1793 the p r i es were 16s. higher than for the 30 previous years. Their . Lordsbipi should recollect that the fluctuations com plained of under a system different to that now pro. 'posed, was not confined to corn. It extended to other krticletis Well as corn. His great objection to this Bill was, that it would, when coupled with the boadirtg system, open the door to enormous speculation. Be objected to the principle of it,-because it went to crei. troy all confidence on the part of the agriculturists. They could not, under such a measure, calculus with any probability as to the price they . weyeltely ta receive for their produce. Tne real authors : of - Atm. sure of last year bad other objects in viel. Ihetrink was, it was intended as a source of revenue. After tie, failure of the free trade system , it became comeliest to 'ilesaamethingwhich would bring 660,0601...j0t° the gichectber, and. accordingly, the warehoused corn was: let into market. • What was the present situation of the country with respect to its revenue? The. amine' . of trains paid at present exceeded in reality by many, I hatailred thou:Cod pound. the amount raised in 1612 ; and they were told by the Noblesßaron (King) that le • attempt should be made to keep up any proportion be.' iween the *ice Of torn and the amount or taxes paid by the laridnvinei. It had been said that the meatort vf last year was meant only for an experiment. He told subettit to their Lordships•whether sttchpolitical marl. iis o taitere proper? Whit would the Noble Lod . rungh),.who - talked of it as in experiment, ay if he advised him .to set fire to his house for the purple Of seeing how much of•it might be consumed? 111. 'Effect of throwing 500,000 quartets into the market lis t -year was, that the price of corn was depressed Sus quarter. The quantity consumed at. that price sr* ten and e halt million quarters, the total loss se which, by the tall of price, was . no less than 1,875,001 400,0001. of which .went into the Exchequer. St would not go so far as to say that the whole capitalst 'the agriculturists' was exhausted, but they were at Wed Sri much depressed, that their Lordships should pasire. before they adopted such a Bill as this. If it 0 10011 pass, he trusted their table would continue to be clOwial • with Petitions uniil it • was repealed e atid the Corn Law pla'ced - on a more secure footing. In •the politiCal creed of every Englishman there ought to be four cardinal virtues. The first was protection to agriculture; are second, protection to every other branch ot .domestic cliptry, as contradistinguished to the free trade tystec; the third, protection to navigation and Ca' shipping 41 ' terest ; the fourth, protection to all interest,,"by a ou reitcy adapted to the actual wants of the country. this last was a matter of the most vital importance i andd the subject were not taken up by some person moo compet •nt, he should certainly undertake n himself.— ' Compared to this, all other considerations were trifling. The Noble Lord concluded .by moving as an amend mint, that the Bill be read a second time that da! ti months.lf the amendment should be rejetaer!, he oid enter his protest against the measure. Lord ELLENBOROUGH :al.+, he felt cor6J that Government could not have offete.la B;11 founder' on any principle except that so generally apprcacd_ g by the Legislature last year. It was ver y true that ma Session he considered the measure as a teirporary cll. 'Dry had expericnc:pf its effects since ti ,eu, ander deavoured in this Bill to avoid the errors of the fora& It appeared t t him that they had succeeded rri avoidol , them, at least in a great part. The Noble Lord (Si!' hope) attributed the low price. of corn last year to . er, introduct on into the market of 500,00 0 clu sr ' which had been in warehouse. Bu t he ought have taken into the account the much larger unkno .quantity ahich also found its way int o the markli AO must have had a considerable effect upon v .price. It no measure for the regulation of the trade, not of a permanent nature, aas to be Ijse greatly feared it would be impossible to di 'such a measure. A permanent law on corn w as a t! quite impossible. eo rof prohibi tion To I:offr eetrade insurmountable difficulties. A Bi ll of this kind necessarily vary in its details , in propciaiml ni l takehi bitn the extreme would be pn enci and taxation varied. tie thought it more P that the present measure woul d. continue in operou.a, ioraittpdleed e!, for some years to come than any other that c introduced. Upon a former occasion, his rP'ffiriou mainly was favourable to a pr inci p k of prohlhti , 01 to, a -certain paint, but after the decision to oh " Legislature had 'cornet thought the attemPt u i te to ,p(t h l n orit e esirrn t tiy oa autc g tid,a thse ile, ' .: l l : 6 - : re: r h tr, , oyj e a, eNat! d,leavec,.nuoaobesbls.lps popula tion , tin.,tphon, assume eepnupottcklog , Country bet, to nho f r ee r e s o i: wtmm shoul d foreign aposconfine necessity orstt nub e fi ap incn) oeo ni greatp. t hp a n ii r dit t t i I s pbs e , , , by rtautt. ft.thei over' t 4k Lel a: . sots I I t .; ;sittionroui r r iri el. yltditi . I . h 4(.1 rile 1 ftect of not mo ss . thei ttroul. This Bill hal a timi a supply, and he should' or thei'otete-t of *ll but tore 1 le could not, h, wes , a , wilt the m i prit w4' they mu•t, therefore, de. whi e. If their o wn - supply jr h3ll:—ej deficien cy-H ere - - — c °oNo i 1 principle tol'e c iecbri t f oelsait p Labt'wh r itiod r :i , rP : dh:til i l oot i Pt l b 1 eht i 0 li e fr b elt: con ant eta .16.73,. under Charles 11. a . he importation of corn.vp Vii i sing ad,ty of Hi. lloss iiv• present rate of money, was' am e was, that - aro icu hire ra. tee pply was so.ahundAtas is. the i.nsequence'of the contrary to l e ll i i 3 otf l e d c a p r. pe l :i ir t l n e o t c v n i : p o lf o rei gn ues hy , . ae t ta years. 1673 w as' ne‘pa T h ei r, r oa 5.. . 4 4 : 1 I • I . ern at time to 1793 the p rices torn.;hat npco, aurrpmt 1 t eo h odu e fi st with textended fluc t uatio ns ixptehteecnautgdhlearejdtcioulbt on. co rn.l o therd iiies . b a eth i ha it a du great objection to this Bill we I !al r it e lecause it went to des- W uch a measure, calculate to ae price they %vele it,kely te V. ne real authors : of . ..themes ye )bjects in viel. Pusrela de arce of trienue. . Oa the rh, stem, it became conweniut th, ild bring 600,0001...10t0 the ca y, the warehoused corn we dsi was the present situation of ea its revenue? The . amine 4 needed in reality by many. r he amount raised in 1812; pt Noblellaton (King) that no to keep up any proportion be. ii the amount or taxes paid 117 eid :en an sa e id eP t e h r i im t e th nt e . inellat He weal ; 11l je rhethet shelf political event. sr at would the Noble Lail en l of it as au experiment, say ir : to his house for the purget r" might he consumed? The sli quartets into the market be tii f corn was repressed Ss. a u onsumed at. that price war 44 quarters, the total loss re el was . no less than 1,875,0001. to into the Exchequer. He el " 'ay that "the whole capitalof i usteclo, but they were at least ).; heir LordAaips should petite is a Bill as this. If it should T voald continue to be ctewsleal repealed,,atid the Corn be ti otitig. Ilvthe politiial creed a ought to be four cardinal 1 •otection to agricu:ture i tlte r other branch of .domestic iv- C I lied to the free trade tystew; rigation and Cite shipping iiP ion to all interest,,"by a cat- i al wants of the country. this most vital intratance i and d rat up by some petson moo tainly undertake n himself.— l :r considerations were trifling. :c1 .by moving as an amend- 1 d a second time that day ill t should be reje:tet!, he would t he measure. IGH sai,l, he felt cor6deet . I ot have aced& 8.11 found d ed , . ,tar. It soit was s ne v r e a ry ll • m easure as a tenipotary one. . . its effects since theu, ai des- s avoid the ei tors of the Immo' hey had succeeded •n avoiding ' 1 pia. The Noble L ord (Stab' • price. of corn las t y ear to the natket of 500,000 quartet ttehouse. But he ought Id tut; the much la r g er unknove generally a u PP e r tha t measure last Ind its way into the mati,..d. considerable effect 41p00 t he , for the regulation of the cot nt nature, ss as to be imP O told be impossible to di: co n anent law on corn was a chid! Ike the extreme principle eit• ibition would be attended v• • ies. A Bill of this kind e , details, in proportion as pt ' He thought it more probe ' e would. continue on opera . rmer occasion, Ins o pinion 4 6 than any other •that 0 04 . to it principk of after the decision to which t: he thought the - attempt to ' ' • P of,. .• • , 41 , 1 ; OKI Lon egad they Pig! )9'. titi 0 if ai was, n 1541 Sso ft 01: I '._