Star. — London, England, 1825-04-22 00:00:00

• Sot An was it tbatlitalight sly to the Mott, who was it that sttinpea Episcopacy of its mitre2 l 7 ll ll lilt bat With they Wire 1? to they aiiii-eitift rali not enema-bred *of th e` - 1 nines of the Cathele church, nor do I advocate the indefeasible successiOnl "of the Popes .to the Chair of &sine Peter; bur the what! ntalidon for,Parlistinknt is; whether this doctrine was Itabit te nd' acted on, or rathei, whether it ii now Meld and acted on in a way 'to threaten danger to the VOnstlttftion? I have saluded before to the evidence taken M the Committee. It is unnecessary for me' brit say anything in praise of the talents of Doctor Doyle, who: Was exansifted as to this-particular facts With `out giving him more credit than any other man, 4 am bound to conclude, upop every calculation or 'probability, that he spoke nothing before the Cow listittee but what he conscientiously believed to be MI; Von will and, then, that Di. Doyle deities that- the *ritual obedience to the Pope can operate against 'tleir allegiance trethe Sovereign. His own words-ate, 'after a distinct disavowal of the contrary infereifee, 11 There was an objection taken,• that the prothise' of obedience, though canonically made to the Pope, teetered with our allegiance to a lawful Soiereign ; and; therefore, there was a clause inserted its the oath, which removed that objection. fell; it the' course of my reading the other day, on eifeititiordi vary instance in confirmation of the same opinion.— Pope, the dist;ngaished poet, was, as ran all• linoW, a Roman Catholic; and Bishop Atterbttry at one time endeatoured to convert him to the Church' of England. Mr. Pope stated, in his reply to the Bishop's' letter, 4 I hope all Churches and allGoVersl• meats areso far of Goa, as they are rightly underithod, and sightly administered; and where they are or may' be orong, I leave it to Goo alone to mend or re form them, which, whenever he does, it must be by greater instruments than I am: lam not a Papist, for I renounce the temporal invasions of the Papal Power, and detest their arrogated authotity over Princes and Statelf; I am a Catholii in the:snictest sense of the word. Here is a confirmation of what Dr. Doyle said, when he denied the interference of the spirituel authority of the Pope with the temporal allegiance of the subject;. and I cannot help considering this accidental testimony of a hundred years ago, written in t e strictness of ,private correspondence, affecting no controversy, and seeking no publicity, as one of the strongest corrob na tions that could be brought in aid of any testimony.. A - is true that this datinction between Spiritual and Tins. poral allegiance has been called an absurdity ire the course of those debates, but it is an atintrditi of vihieti: Pope ci uld be guilty, and with which- Afierblify veal' satisfied—tHeardsiar). The CCatyiblics hive, unfor tunately; i must admit? glee& dfeitiselies up to the guidance of their Pi imits and leideri=tadtilit the Fact', but I lay the blame upon another quarter. If they are idolaters in politics, it is We have; made them ser--: (Hear, hear). But ho - sa can we preVent such idolatry ? How can we rescue them front Meerferfseehive . caused them to fall into? By admitting thiai to the full and Ire worship which we all ceja . y.,--Ily opening to Mein the sanctuary of the law—by hiring up the veil- of the -British Constitution, and pointing Our for their partici pation mid reverence, the spirit of freederti that &tells within. D,p' this, and you viiH Wean' their ter eiree trent the ciinie o f idolatry and superstition—(Hear}:— . Opinion has now arrived it that csisis, with respect to this great national question, that-if yotr do not aptici pate change, change will nisei:Mister you—(•Hcar, hear; I). Is it not a grievance that millions of people should suffer disabilities merely on account of religion?' is it not a grievance that the choice of the Crown should be restricted in the selection of its advisers`, and in the estensicil of its fay.,urs? Is it not a grievance that any people should wear a badge marking iheM' out from the rest of their rellaw-aubjects as Otiects s cf suspicion' and distrust, daMping their hopes of industry and honour, and meeting them . at every turn with exclusions from which other sects have been long relieved? No man will deny that there is grievance in alt this, if it *ale possibl- to have tatiided it *Omit (fates', The Hen: Member for Ddry hai said that we are iti which leaves us only a choice of difficulties, and that whatevei conclusion we come to he 'cannot be hilly satisfied. This is, unfortunately, 'our situation; but. the misfortune would be still greater, if we had' made theirs ourselves. The fact, however, is other.' wise. We have not made out our ditEculties. We have ir.herited them, but it is our good fortune' to have the means of curing} their. At the sarnetinie, it it not for us eo charge our ancestorsi who . passed rhose -enactments,. with having passed them without excuse or apology. There was a disputed succession ; there was an association between. the Catholic Biligitifat and certain political results, ithich they had all interest in resisting. It was in vain to think of putting docin'tte disturbances of the time without putting dOWti the religion which formed a part M the cause of these ditturbances. They should; elector; be forgiven, if, in a Moment of *1654; they retorted upon ttteit' adversaries, what their adversaries in victory bad visited upon them. But there' inOther china which out ancestors have on our justice. They saw that reconcilement was impracticable; that the enmity between them and the Jacobites' trust,. be permaneat and lasting. They determined that ? ar they , could rmr ccitiVeit they would peniat, and the they took were dell calcblated to Carry %Weir, designs_ into effect. The rack-is_ horrible, bat it is a beautiful' piece of mechanism. The Penal Laws are revolting,, het they-are ad mira'ble contritancei for the pligislinienr and degfadatiOn of *inn - . were siclspietl to the purpose for which they were devised. They Were fitted to set the wife against the husband—the children against the pitentthiOservantagaiiit ht= vit'aitif - to, destroy the confidence, the hippiness, and Ate villa - Of society--to stew feat in every Manse, Mid beivieen all sekationa, ittid to reduce the population td a state Of iniiry (When chef had perhaps some scruples of iciniclence ai to the propriety. of exterminating them}-a state of misery and degradation that placed &Cie almost on a level with the brute—( Hear; hear).— 714 Pinal Law; were consequently an admirable in vention, when we consider the purpose they were tended to serve. But just as all was nearly done, and when the last turn was about to be given to the ma thine, the English Legislature grew ashamed ofies own work, and shrunk back from the prospect which it had taken so much pains In prepaiing. 1 say Chit with cont-' fidence, for it would be telly to deny, that the policy of this country was changed from that moment. If not, the laws of 1778 were mistaken ; but in fact there was no mistake. You repented, and you relaxed; your policy changed net now but then, and the task you are invited to perform is to persist in the same policy which You then adopted, and which not only the friends but the adversaries of the Bill approved and rejoiced is. It it e it a consolation to reflect, thatthough we-dad not cause, , We can "Meat the iftiilftit* MI . if ferocity of theirenal . ,ICode. I have ofte n be en - stenc k, on l oo ki ng at t h ose ' `were ve ssefit conce lSr d, ith' tee ' blear ingendity in which thb7 1 fdFit-Wobld setiit'Aq theLegielatM4l bad &acted the arliOleToree Of ier mind to select' dial ;tenderest point's whera;woundi could be inflicted, aid !disgust combined with suffering. Bttt I contemplate ithenr now, Sir, with' a degree •of pleature, because it proves the buoyancy of human nature, and that human ley hid not the power to diprets it. i ingenu 1 . " In oar anti& We abeikid Up to or native seat : demesne atalltall To is Is adversew-ACheerigh !What are we now to do?—No man will advise tiatwe all. go back ; to go forward ir now the questitO,• and E e at tkiitioti may belinswered• in the negatiVe. iii ti I ar that we can stand where we ale—( Heir, 4at): 6 man will advise that- we-shall go back. On the I . c . orttrarr we- see . bo* far the-opposite opinion-is work ing.. W ithbuf rifEitinlt to' Of stieticheS in debate, but niVitelY taking - thetii as indleatibni of the growing spirit of the times, it is imposiible- for any man to have list ened to the speech of an -Honourable Friend-of mine Itnr. BitiVnslonlywhastittid theitnpressionvof an hottest' land conscientious mind, admitting the prejudice; and ) .. . .. 'apprehensions in which it was educated, and renouncing Ilihem in cOnformity with the growing liberality of the are. His own individu II presence spOke4af it were with - a double tongue. It is impossible to have beard ano lther Honourable Member (Colonel Ford) without ads :mit ing the candour and difficulty of hismdmissions, and drawing from them another living illustration of the great change in public-sentiment. It is impossible to 'have heard another Hon. Gentleman, the Member for the County of Down, without Coneluding, 0,15 t that hh i was a convert, but that conversion was abeoadeand that ;he WAS a . brilliant instance of the effects it was produtingt . 'if these are indications of the state of opinion,. are they not also proofs that what is now proposed to be done in. ;favour of the Catholics will be met with a different ;temper from that which h4s forenerly' attended the same proposal ?—(Hear,- bar) Our business- is to legislate; and to legislate with a view to' the improved spitit of the age, and the improved condition of the Catholic 'himself. 'lt will turn those adrantages to evil which ,we boast of haying, discovered- and encouraged. You talk of increasing weahh—the growing population— the adOancing intelligence—the acceierattng industry arising from the connexion between ElKland and . Ireland ; but is it not the fact, that the acquire meot- of those advantages by the Catholics-, Must excite-feelings in their minds which cannot be satisfied Without further mid more ample concessions? Do . lotr not feel that you have given them too much it you have not given: it Ear a noble puipose? that you hitvelifted them painfully high, if you have only placed , theur On an eminence,' from whente- they can command a nearer view of the blessings from which you would Cruelly exclude them- Perhaps it would be better for individual- happiness that the C I Viol ii shmlld have been left in the humble condition to which you had reduce& him, than ambulated . by every . gerr4.ons principle of action, and then denied the capacity to employ them; in the ir proper use•;-(lienr,kear); My Right Honourable Fs iend . (Mi. Gut* stn) was . panic-struck at the prospect 01 taking one step in advance. He foresaw the over throw of the Constitution, from the. admission of a few Catholic Gentlemen into Parliament ; but there isr is' appears to me, a long chain between his remises and his conclusions, the links of which, I must confess, I hsve not the penetration to See—(Hear) What foice could it be that gave rise to the apprehensions of My_ Right Honourable Friend? Was it physical force? —(A hulgl4. if sa, I would give him one conso lation in t.ii adversity, by telling him that physical force is more likely to be directed against a door than it shut, than against a door that is open—(Load latrehter). But what you proposed to give is not political power, but the capacity to possess rt. The Protestant Crown, and the Protestant population of this country will have prejudices—hon-urable prejudicee enough to event against any poi, ible inischief with as mneir precaution ; as aWY nftE cab deiiii.. My Right Honourable' Medi/ this said that they will never be satisfied—that they will go on insisting upon' mote and more, until his. propheiy re9eetin'g the overthrow of the Constitution it ;mira culously tulfilied. But can you suppose thin the Catho lic Gentlemen or the Citholic labourers, or the whole i Masi' combined; in all their g'indations, can ever hlipe or think ta seize the powers of die State? is this a probable—is it 4 possible event to contemplate? Sup pose five or six Catholic Gentlemen were admitted into Parliament. 1 date sae, that in' the fist stissioti [heti would be some strange looks. Those Gentlemen would hive some inquisitive glances to encounter. But, in the course of a Session or two, we should mouse to sit be side them w;th as much ease as we now sit by the Dissenters, of whom. see think mote favourably only ,because they are Protestants; as if, to vie an Mt.' preasion of Mrs Burkel; h€ Was the best Protestant, who protested *edit thf greatest nullifier of dOcirinet. ~.:-Of one Oing I do sore, that no Catholie gentleman will* sit 6f the Prate:tint camintiniet irliat I heaid a frotestait Gentleman say the other night against his 'Cathillit fellovi-subjects—(Hearn beer j.-=lt is hat -Whither the boon OS be bestowed Shill noel' be given, ~arid tuff hive the g race to give it, but Whether we will take on ourselves the responsibility of withholding it, unless Our opponents cap say and believe that the pre sent state of Irelind• will ccnstinue—that ha beginning ; prosperity wilts go on increasing; itnd ms•evill be the COnseqtteate elf - now - withholding this boon, that no linjuiy wRI leave to the Conititutrenz-tothat Confetti: *l3. Which it held up to the' Irish ii gornething roe !Which to shed °Me blood, hit ice that Cc:imitation, the beauties of Whith are net the !lefties it give*, and the equality it - throws over all the subjetts, but * Constitution' of exehttion for the Cat holic, and . which you all on him to love and Support, fieeatist it is the means Of eXclading hit* from the Saint Priefieges As the rest of his fellOW-subjeci4— In OrOportitin ai the prosperity of the Country is greed in prOportions as it is rich and powerful ; in 'propot ! don as it is free lien external evils, add rapidly increasing in internal wealth; when it is enfolding immense capabilities whioll its warmest admirers had never anticipated; in proportion,' Sr, is there is no room - for fear from abroad, 1 • no dread of danger at home, just in that elite proportion are we in a condi tion to give the b6on asked by the Catholics, ivithout, our conduct being liable to the mikonitruction of it! having been forted from is by terror, Or extorted by intimiclatiOri—(tear, hear I). I hope, Sir ; that I should feel ashamed, that I should Seel the diSgrate yielding to menace; and I think, Sir, I have prO+ill to my Right Honourable Trend, during this pref. sent Sesai.-0, that I am piepired to vindicate We hoadOr of this 'House, and uphold tb't so dew's oft e law against any iniptititions; bei g e, by a fortaaVte i~ circomsbuscas.:-by a' series of Mott-we could•not• command, much has been don. which will make those stand silent who had beforeopposed tbe men. sure, or refused to go intn'aa aocountof the state-of tbe country. There was reason for opposing the measurewlsaa the country was in th e m id st o f ariEculties. radmit, Sir, the feelings of those who would not go into the quips. tion, when to grant it might imply an appreherninn, and when it could not be refused without hazard. Bet adtitte is now come, Sir, suitable beyond GOT hopes and :expectations. Who can look on the high and balmy , prwpeilty of our country, and not wish to make the ffeetibg state, for everything is fleetingand not wish-1 say, Sir, to make this fleeting state our own, and mark it by - stinie signal act of beneficence. Itrantthitting it tb our posterity as a testirtriny of idltr Own' gtatittscle, for t'he high layout sliewn us „(Heat).—lf so be that our external peace was disturbed —if our internal' tran4uillityi be iinintetrupte&—if our prosperity be checked—if the' stealth' witkwhich we are now gorged should riot dndenY produetive outlets, should we not have a proud• satikfiction in having con. secreted this moment of proiperity toe gob& woe k, in having made it our own, and marked it by an act- of race in all coming annals of Stitish legislation? This, Sir, is not the time for enterinkinto.oiscussion of the particular parts of the Bill ; but I must rake the present' opportunity of offering ohe or two remarks mi. it. As to the Oath, I agree with :61y Right I-inn. Friend that it is unsatisfactory—it is more like.* bill of indictment, in which *ter pbssible crime is - enuriterarteck, that the 'prisoner Mali hirEikichance of escape.- than a pc) • irtation. But my' Riet Hon. Friend forge that the ill ha s pail atilithek place. In else la se Dill Which was sent` op frcitit! this HOUSf, the oath had been cur tailed',- and tilers- *Pantile& an objectibtr to the 11M jsute that this . 064 bit f t cild oath was °Mini& li-degat many surmises of e'en intentions. In dr:l.4lllg tip the `prespreset% Bilk thin, the olctiong oath has been restored; ent Rijeka*. Friend says it is too longoeithout con.; i sideting that it iipspiksed on ut lip' the part, isith - - !which he acii. My gight Hon. Friend treats the question at if the Catholic . created the qualificaCion, land theft protean d• against it. The oath; Sir, is nei. tCher his nor mine. Thi obmixiaffe oath was . . doted into the 13111 of 1793, alid Was Copied' front it. ;As to the security proposed,. my Right Honourable IFrientr, Sfr; says this will not Ottilly the Protestant - ''and argaei as if 'We insulated the Correipnlidence !tween Catholics and the Cuomo/ Rome; bat that: lip Itercours6 dist: every day. The concerns of private !life are regulated by it. &scripts mid citbEr nications come over every slat; diey are cilifttity to s law, but the laws are so severe they cannot be etiforCed. The authors of the Bill do'not create these evils; but 'if you find them so alarming, we call on you to devise .snme law for checking theme , ; you must hrice I Bill for regulating the intercourse with Rome ; for theiteslent :laws - are SO severe they cannot lie executed. Sirs I ,have occasion to know. this.. Shortly after my accession , to office, I received a letter from the Pope, which t did' not like to open till I bad Consulted the Law Oltreert; I did so, Sir, and I found if Y took any notice Ofrtlitleftery I should fall under-the Stela e o f Pretimniref I did pot answer the letter; audit retnwins unaninveted radii; day. •The area-rioted restriEtioni hive also been fottnd fault with, ds lel Confide too ninth., and *6 Of t+66 petting a nature- , --( kear, lau t ,011). Now, &r,- 'few words as to the other measures which ate.to be coo-. .necteclithh this Bilk It bx any Mange in the elective qualification, we cab sive strength to thole wbp hitife on all oceasioni proved then selves our *Ai - niei( friendly I shall be ready to support the measure; thane, on the general pirincipTes of -freedom, and of freehold qualification, should oppokie it. FrAtaild id Bat And freehol d Ireland are such different Whitt ; has been made so clear in delliteii - that they are not regu lated by the sense that in striking at cite symbol of freedom, if *redo not. violate:the esience of freedom of election; if, in striking at that symbol, we at the same time do good to Ireland, I, for one, Sir, shall not by Ail aitaclig in the Way of raising the gnalificatidli fob Votteg. Attu thWiterind shalom the prilitipit irguttient whit* I travt urged against it te; that it is casting the whole colamunity td support ar par ticular religion. But that is the case now when the &giant Doom is collected. This, Sir, is paid_both by the PiOtestinti And Catholic's. Do not the cittailief alsti pay &het to the Protestant Chateli? I ant riot ready W tibia thin iyiteol.=-} Will not do' aril, this grievantez4 will not inntriate on the pro'perty of the Church. I.am !Mt prepared, considering, .as I do, the Protestant Establishment in Ireland as the best security for the anion of the eat not ready to fintiinidi theie tithes. But stippodnithit chef/rote*** ii Called on to pity foi the ittpptitta the Cathulk Pries*► hood, it will only resemble the tai now levied.otil the Catholics to support a branch of the Protestant Church: Though I shall be ready 01) these ',rounds tp support the auxiliary treasur es , I will riot sall that i should not support the present Bill ivitliout that: I Wilt ties:lWe the Hoisa with aria other Otieeivathin t hi** lima:sight under the notice of the House the internal_siteition of the Catholic, and the internal .situation of Ireland. *lo our great and woadeilal increase cif prosperity we have Outgrown. other nitiOni, Ind it is in litiniati nature, btith In hiclitidosill and in ziadrAil, _ter lea oW treat proiperityr with doinithheflike ifividiandoese: There air in some cases I feeling of &is nature among tither na tions, They look to our internal state for some spot, which is to taint and_ destroy .our Constitution, and where can they find it? .where do they always direct heir attention, but to Ireland, and to the state of the Catholicsthere they loiili for the deitruiticin of obi power. I, Sir, would disappoint both our in'tici;ticit friends, and these who are really anxious for our wel fare, from conceiving that our prosperity is the best se t corky for tale happines s of Europe. I; Sir, would hell this rankling wound of Ireland, so that not even a eicattice should remain. If the . Bill shOuld pass, it will produce this result; and Is Sir, shill give II support twat measure.- (T he Riglbc Hqn. Geodeman took his seat amidst loud and long coatinned cheering.) Mr. Secretary PEEL said, the subject had been so exhausted that he should have been giati&d by la maiaing silent. His flight Honourable Friend, he whi sure, would admit, that if he saw great difficulty in this question, and danger on the faCe of the Bill, he ought to express his ientinsenti. He was sure his Right Him: friend would not hiSeiteeM and frieuchhip When ;fie pursued that icitirst —( Hear). Be'ore he proceeded Ito enter upon the topics introduced in the debate, he (should say, he had heard with a perfect conviction Of his sincerity, the avowal .of his Hon. Friend, that he had changed his opinion. tie should have made a similar statement that he had Changed his, but he held tiet changrci his cipinion, if *ls Still the 'erne. He haJ never considered there Wits in ininpetieble bar to the - I a ' . - ',rlaims - of the ROO= Cad*Bel, bet the Peatlileffbilet the people of England certainly ought in lib aphimeto have great weight with•the House. If, Ante the face Hof those Petitions and the Bill itself he was smiled con cettions could not be made• it was his duty to rate hit opinion. His Honourable Friend said it was denied by Dr. D yle, that the POpe had power to ercommunicate in the exercise of temporal power. It was not the first time the same thiiig had been denied. Mr. Rtt., in taking the urinions of the Universities, obtained the same de nial. Had his Honourable Friend been opposing the Roman Cahill: Claims twenty years without knowing that ? It !.i; Honourable Friend had wished to be con vinced on the subject, why did he not turn co the evi dence of former times? His Honouml le Friend had said, he should vote for the second reading. and oppose. .the Bill on the third reading, if it did not answer his expectation. This he considered an extraordinary mode of proceeding. The Right HonouiableS!cretary added that it , s moJe of proceeding would be to oppose the second leading of the Bill, without reference to any etabsequent stage. His Right Honourable Friend had 'considered the Petitions replete with theological dis cussion, which might have been omitted. He mold not concur in that objection. Two clauses of the Bill refened to the maintenance of the doctrine and disci pline of the Church cif England, and a distinct notice had been given of the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church. All the points of doctrine of the Church of England were wise found in the articles of the Church, and it was very natural that the Petitioners, especially the Clergy, should resort to theological discussion..-- The Articles of the Church of England were funda mentally at variance with the Catholic Church. The Church of England was the Religion of the &ate, and at it . wareompulsoty upon the Ministers of that Church to subscribe to those Articles, how could they find fault with them for adhering to the spirit of them in their *Petitions to the House? This led him to the Preamble Of the Bill,•Which set out the inviolability of the Prot. - testant Church : " Whereas the Protestant Succession Ito the Imperial Crown of the United Kingdom Indite Dependencies, is, by the' Act for the funker limitation of the Crown and the better securing the liberties of the subject, established permanently and inviolably t And whereas. the Protestant Episcopal Church of Eng land and Ireland, and• the doctrine, discipline, and go vernment thereof, &c. established permanently and in. violably." He confessed it did strike him that , there was something ominous in this prominent ten , derness for the Protestant Church and Ascendancy *id chit place, in it Bill which was proposing to sub.' ;reit those hiffiers ihith had hitherto been deemed nefeisiry iafegisards to that aicendariey. It should 'be remembered that when Macbeth was to meet the iistimbled guest* at the banquet, he expressed the .greatest atinietY -abbot the absent Baigito, and it i had been feeniiked that this peculiar concern foe the victim arils Murderous design; betrayed the compunc tious visitingl of hid mind: Now he could not help thinkitilt that thirovei' regard for the " Imperial Crown ! if At' T;lnitestririgdodr and" the Protestant Church' of Eogland." somewhat resembled the anxiety of Macietk for Btropro . -4t war a touch of name which kisr dewed to' 'hew the danger of • their situation s nod' fie cotiftf not but feat that ill was not safe—(Hear', Aear),--The next object of the gill was to get rid of the Oath of Supremacy ; and the meaning of this, if it ,hod any Seining was, to enable the King to take Ratan . Cillitifi csinto' his Councils. The King, ho*a ofitiged do take an oath against tran substantiation, and this was thought to be sufficient sa . curity for the permanency and inviolability of the Pro trtant succesaion. Bot how was this regarded by our 'arneestoeo--what mid the Bill of Rights? It did not thwßitio codseitar but that certain Conatillorsr Meet's; and Judgeil Of the' King conspired to reheat the laWs and liberties of the country--( Hear, hear)— ! He' did believe thee the late King had great persosial weight tepoik this quitsflint— . 4lkar,keesit—But suppose' • after he had Taken the oath against transub sianuaticio, Were to revolve the subject in his mind, and arrive at a different conclusion with regard to his 'religion* belief, what would be the consequence? If then did were ao, 4 . a King and Queen, after their accession to the Throne, With the facilities which this Bil'Cwouldafford, mere to be at liberty to change their religious creed, the peace and tranquillity of the country would henceforth rest upon the mind of one individeat • 46ikerij. The removal of a Cathol e King Irons the 'throne' *ould be the work of n civil convulsion, as if was in . the time of James the Second, and in the sane way **the suspicion of the Monet ch led to the takin secutitki in' the time of Charles the Second. It woul d nef be fait to say that these wete visionary spe.cul ,tions, When t i e Measure whisk they were discussing went to toecit the fundamental principles of the C (lie*, hew". His Hen. Friend the Member for Plymp , ton (Mt. NOtthYttild them they were not t • he seArehing for danger, in the clouds fay the aid of telescopes, *hen danger existed under their feet. Bat he (Mr. S cietary Feel) would tell his Hon. Friend, that, it they were to descry in the cloudy a black spot r although not bigger than vier hand, they were bound to look to the c• nee* plantar of *overcasting the firmament, with the same caution as their forefathers had exercised for their be. nefit—( Nair). The question was not now wi e her they were to have a religion favoured by the State. If they here diectisiing the political settlement of the country, as to whether it should be Republican or Monarchical, the qoestion might Very well Min whether they should have a religion favoured by the' State or net, as wet the case in America. Bet their case was different— WO found themselves already in a settled Monarchy, proteking against Catholic interference. It was, there+ fore, to be obseritd, that such Was their tituatiees that Reece, and the Misters and followers of the Church of Rome, Must consider their Protestant Religion al the usurping religion. It was impose sible the Catholics. could think otherwise, and while they did so think, it would surely be dangerous' t 6 adant theta to a share in the Legislature—(HeeV, hear). It was better tOettlude them at once, than ad mit theist upon conditions, and such was the practice of the Constitution. When they had dilqualified Officers of the Revenue and the Clergy, from sitting in that House, did they offer to admit them upon the condition of their , distiaiming the imputations against tthakiemn? a longorti oath , inding . themselves to vote with minds free from any undue mill:ewer He w ished to speak With eft e most as pe o fftec i resPect inconsistent . oftheviCiaththothliacst,iftzindg to su idhesee that i p. pose that a Catheho should very conscientiously feel ' wal boitile to floe Pritestant Establishment. No one could feel Surprised to find i conscientions Roman Catholic adopting the Opinions. of Mr. Butler epos this ditch jeer, whir ;belated in his writings that las benefit bet much evil had floated to this country from the RffiP illation. And seeisldit be sefe to admit. person* weft 4 ~ , , Ai . _ - ,e) t ...) :.~