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111. IMPERIAL PARLIAMEN r. HOUSE OF LORDS, V. 10. CATHOLIC RUANCIPATION. The Royal Assent was riven by Commission to the Exchequer Bills (12,000,00 0 •) 13ili and the Transfer in Aid Bill. The Com• snlssiotur. were the LORD CISANCSLUIA, Lord Smarr:muse, and Loed Earl V I TSWrtLT A tribertreti Pktithin from Thorne, in the county of Ttiritcfor **Myna of die Test and Corporation Acts. Earl SPENCER 'presented %habitat Petitions frum the Protes tant Infasesnerenflforh-stroot Chapii t .Widniortheist.thonostoty at Surrey ; from the Baptist Congsenation of the town of Northamp ton ; from the Proteetant Dissenters of blinghans, in the county of Northampton; from the Baptists of Kingsthorne, ht the same county. - from the Protestant- Dissooteev and other fries* of reli gions liberty of Pulbrook ; and loser the Protostant Dissenters of the Parish of Braxton' near Northampton. • . Tbq. Earl of CA RUSLit presented a Petition to the sass effect trotn the Protentant - Diastases of Pickeringi la the co uatT of YOU LdhI•FALMOUTH. is the Owner of a Noble Duke, had a sitnitar Petition to present from Protestant• Dissenters of the City. of Exeter ; hut in doing so, he thotight It right to say that its prayer would bet be supported by any •ote of bh. Lord ft M ULY N presented a similar Fashion from the Protel.' tint Dissenters of the town of lievellord %se: , . Lord DURHAM presented similar Petitions from' tbe Prase, hat Dissenters of Stoektomupon-Tees,.of the City of Durham. of Chester-le street; and Of Wo %Ingham, all in the countiof Verbal& Lord •W lI.NCLIFFS hid a eimilar • Breams ;t• prison, which, on• seesaw °fano nintillsesa It tontsised, was •pesoliariy . entitled to the fastootable aueosivo of their Lordships. -The Peti tioners, In praying to be relieved Mint aft civil disabilities, pro teased to stek no advantage which they did not desire to see ex tended to their fellow subleots of tterr description. The Petition was • User the baptist-Congeitgattoes oL Woultip-oteett. Finsbury. square. 1.90 DARN ARV ON bad a•sintilar Petition to present, which had ibis the same claith the conelderatien - of the House. It was front the Presbyterian-Congregation of the town of Newbstry,whu. constiosed the object timp-bad as, view inspemant, .whiefly.bacanee. they two& .bto. the. pkaisniseuty step to tbso•glautbill unteersal liberty of consciance. • Lord CAANARVON thew 'presented similar Petitions from theliaptist tusellndependentOon g reg a dons sof the newts of • New - Mays Lordt43OIIERICII presented - a Position to the sense feast' from the .Protestane Dissenters of Gaiesborneehr is..tharbermay oft Lincoln. Lord CAIIItINGTON 'presented a similar Petition front the' . Proteatent . Obsenteer ad wiser friends of relisidos . Mesta Great' MortookliOdika - • Lord/CAM - JOB preseoted•several shellac Petitions from Ifni.' vas plaess..-srThe above Petitions acre severally ordered to lie spelt the table. Th. Matvuis Of LANSDOW N; in preseating a pe titlon'frodi the Rousso Catholic'. of the County and City of Lon: doiderry,peaying ilissancipatios, said he would-not, too that cocas *ion k taboop tise dine of the Home by a. dimunion of the gempal, quatioo, bet he could cot help stating the surprhie.he felt on a for mer sight, on beads' his Noble and Illustrious Friend at the head of tbb ilinietry salted whether it was his. Intention totring - forward any meassireof relief fur the Catholics of Ireland, especially when be rtimumbered that the Noble Loads apposite, doting the nine montbsthey were its once. aim ammo* forward any. measure oar the subject, nor could had in that space any coceecient season for doing's* though clothed *with the •notward and visible sign of power, , tlieydid out dare to air *equalise; pet, len days aker his Noble %Mod had catered tom, those Noble L ords • had the mo desty to ask him whether lie had, not an intention.of proposing somenscasure of relief for the Catholics?—but that question. had clearly been asked with a view to obtain an answer that should ex cite she diustisfaetisa to IrAand. While on this subject he would. exposit* hope,. that dome aerasetrr ovoid be iistrodoced.this Scs sionwashicb might ,put as ond-to thor continued existence of chat bodge : the ,Catholie Antedates*. It was known .0 their Lordships that +lllh 'Catholic Rent was being collected to :be amount of 6001. wittlye • Alb Colsolies tencietehae by ditto proceedings in Ire land, disk great silisicc• ensalecipation, awe so be gaisseal..but they 4 were In orros—k. was ore, is fifth's& Onaocipa:ion was to. be erected, by concession and conciliation, and not by violence or in timklatitin in Ireland, as he should be *le to show enure patticu- Santee. !future occasion—( Hear). • The hlumpais of SLlOWoreseneed a petitionfrom the Catholics of Weatport, weeny of Meath, raping entancipatiom Medial of SUI A FTESUU la moved. that a Message be sent to the Consmons reqoestleara copy of the Third Report of the Committeton Emignithina - 't hlretrocui, Gross Clishillkalospitid, - presented Accounts of the Unattained rtiosononsrp. .! • • • MI stf! E*tAt EXP LA NA T lON S. Lord SHAFTESBURY. having moved - that this House do now a sst ni Lord GODERICH 'addressed their Lordships...My Lords.-with considerable pain .1. leek myseit placed on.' der .the necessity of troubling . .Lordships . again with observationvon a subject personal to .myself,' and partiesdatly after having addressed your. Lordship's's tbeinatter in the course of last week:. And I assure you,my'Lords, that in what I thea , saidc and is what - I' widnto say on the present occavon t 4had.ant.-1 have not the most remote • irritation . of Utigting or stating any thing wish a view to hoot-the feelings or to affect tbeschatacter of any individual. My sole object was, anitnew is, tis defend myself—not to accuse others, or to snake nut a cos* against them—to slate ugly what 1 consider niecessary to my own justification...and in do., ingtbatisto &dam the truth and nothing but- the tenth. Men the Duke arWessissesir iodinated ilemeess; to the. Noble Lad. We urie isissselbla.belaw the • Lord GOIAERICkI, in continuation--I beg pardon of the Nohle * Dtilie; Isn't' what Itinteud to say relates to myself. Whatever may have been your Lordship's opinion of the prudence which dictated that, my state. men', br of the probable result 'of it on the House and the public, I had resolved not to trouble your Lordships again on the subject; but I cannot-now forbear to visite some observations, having learned that imputations have been made against me, which, if tree, would make me utterly unfit to appear before your Lordships. For instance. it has been said that I went to tte King with the intentitm of stating to hii Wiest, that which was ni.t, 'with a covert design of Promising' . 'a 'particular effect, by; the suppression of certain facts. My Lord?, against these enfoonded imputations I had relied on' the: hope that what the 'world knew of 'my conduct during the several Years I had been in public office, would'haeibeen sufficient' to refute them m once and for ewer. But, my LOtds, it has been said, and I can scarcely bring inyself to thiok it has been said—that baring rise to the King with the purpose of informing his Miristy of the reitand precarious condition in which the Government then stood, and with no other object aotwithstanding, I took that occasion of using 'the resignation of the 1. 'Chancellor of the Escheques as the pretext for the dissolution - ache tioveromerrt.-.-. My L&ds, if i could have done so, E should.have bow the Wisest of mankind—(Cheering). Whit were the facts ? I had some timeriefese that informed that Rt. Hon. Gentleman by letter, that I understood my Right Hoe:Friend the Secretary for the Colonies would.not acquiesce is nominating to the Chair of she Committee of Fikhnce, any other than the Noble Lord who had bien 'greedy fired on I stated, that if ie (the Chan. cellar of the Exchequer) would posist is hit objection, it would_ orobably be follOued by she resignation of another Member of the. Cabsnet , - shose resignation. I apprehended; would eaustitise' dirtilution '•ot 44Ise Go Verllment ; and I added, than his Own (141:Hesirieli 9 b) resignation, would be. attstided With the wale ceinse. quencee. Mow, then, after this, can alio Right How Geis:lea:Ma assert, that I, with a previous kticrwledge.off sheovent, made his resi t En b a t to s e the rotas for dissolv ing the GOvetallient— )1. Ply Lirds, I hive in: •. • my on letters on the subject, which I 'should Write Lordships. if I consulend the reading o ' thotil eecessary to my vindication. • In my beat letter to die Wald Him. Gentleman, I urged him to conc e d e the point in question ; I informed him that I did not agred with him in his objeetioa—that I thought be made a false estimate of the proceedings that had ahead; ~~ occurred, and riga,* him not to take.that course, a I feared it would be Minded by shOcosooolences whist, -I flbdolhentioneds-chalisfe owed::iteser*W . ALejesc7, t• the coutritrySand to oureeleee - itnateoidotrty thing which should tend: to break up he Goelemilieitar o that we gbe, if possible, to meet Parliaidat, to-Justify our measures, and to leave it to Parliament to take what course they may choose in deciding upon our fate. le answer to all this, the• Right , Hum Gentlentspoisaid nothing, but persisted in -referring rest to his first letter, ou which imputed that he wasoot satisfied with the original nomination to the Chair of the Finance .Connittee..., Now; my Lords, I'say that I em justified in stating thet the course which the Right 'Hon. Gentlemen- -took • leas; the cause of the dissolution of the Government. I impute no improper motives to others, but I contend that, iu the ,siteation in which' twat placed. I must necessatily.have _guided my conduct by the writer declarations of those individuals then lying before me--particularly-by thas letkerof the Right fion.'Oenleman, in which Imitated,- that lie thought the proposed appointment ought not to take place. It is difScrilt, my Lords, to allude.te this subject with petit/et safety.- particularly as it is impos sible-to know how .far the Right Hoch Gentleman has ,ote not been repres'entecttaccurately.. But it is sad, that h l ,a design had been homed to break up the Government. ,By whom, my Lords? • By whom was such a design originated ? By whom was it coacoeted? For myself I dony , that it was dose by my work—l disclaim Any stick design to have been emert wined, or acted ow by me, ditettly or indirectlyt I de not -deny that tie Govern. menu may have been in a condition in tOich it may not have been able to obtain the support of ria 11.4Ment ; but ~ I;cleity that there was any design formed by me, or on ,opy pert, to break up the G-overa meet before the meeting of 'Patliament. I will.allow,. my Lords, that it is on. ,adeisabie to go again over the old matter of the debate A lAA week, ur to introduce such n-w matter as may. tedid to excite a dittussion between Members of the two licnises of Pailtainenta and if the imputations to which I lave alluded merely affected my Ministerial conduct, ['shoal& toat have ..e roubled yr ur .Lordships with any .temarkc upon them; buck-is:a charge against my perso nal char:titer, and do we not owe it to ourselves as honourable men, and Gentlemen, to repel such an un founded chaise, to clear ourselves from such foul impu tations; if we ateehargedi as I Fare been, with having gone to the foot of the throne with the design of making ,a particular measure the false pretext fro effecting any object..or having approached 'his 'Majesty with any such intentions ?—(Cheer 1.) I Lord CARLISLEstated that he had heard with much surprise, that the difference between two • Right Hon. Gentlemen, Members of the late Cabinets was not the cause of the dissolution of the late 'Government. For Himself, he was not aware of the particular circum stances; he knew nothing of the mysterious knowledge of the receetinachinerytthat led to that eifect;. but he believed his lion. Ft iend (Lord Gocreeich) to •be right ih stating !bar the .te.+l -cause , of the dissolution was the. difference between those two Itigkt Hon. Gentlemen. He did not think the Noble Lout capable of the con- duct imputed to him. • %Voile • on dais legs he would nimble their Lordships with a few 'words relative. .t»• r a emelt as explanations seemed to be the order of the .. y, He-was unwilling to speak of his own conduct, but, happily for I im, he was whored from this neces sity, by being able to refer. to a document, not to be sure regulasly.l chore their Lid-kiln, but one that had been :eke red to by other Noble Lords befene him-.-be meant a speech delivered at' Liverpool. The Right Hon. Gent. who spoke that speech had correctly said that he (Lod Cailisle)• was the old personal friend and com patriots of a Right Honourable Gentleman, now unfor tunately. no no re. That friendship, he was happy to say, lasted tetween himself and that'Right Hon. Gent. (11Lra.Canning). unimpaired 'through all . the jars and vicissitudes et political dissension!, and the memory of Iche would fondly - cherish to the last hour of his exis tence. Of that Right. Honourable Friend of his, or of his character, he *cold ni t on that occasion speak in detail s . nor would he remind their Lordships how his ;light Honourable Friend had been thwarted in his was ions measures of :im provemerao-how : he was perse- Cored by ranerser Ambito livlng-abo ar be was calumniated site he'lltas'deado 4 how the grave itself could give his friend - no immunities—bow to him alone the tomb was ho sanctuary—(Cheers).-.nor could he understand, how his Right Honourable Friend was a dingetout Xlinkter, pr,. if bewas dangerous, how he canto t., reccee 'the; support' of his Sovereign, or how it happened that- he; posed, by his measures while Foreign,. Minister, no, Flanger to any of 'his Sovereign's Allies—not even to that-Soweieign whose dominions were most exempt LIMN free •institotions,• the Erni cow • of Russia. Ile . would , inertly state, that in consequence of that friendship betiveen_himself aid the Right Honourable Gentleman. he hatl-been geode she instrument of a commuoicatoni 144tWeen hie- Right -Hoeourable Friend and .ts Noble: Esiend of his (Lord Lansdosan) whom hedid not see in diis place, and who, in corsequence of that communica. Rion, afterwards,• as:their:Lordships knew, acceded to, otisewirft hiarßight Hcissolii lend. •OE his Noble Ft ien4 he'sheuldely, 'that however much-he admired his-chea tracter, and thegeneral correctness .of hit lonje.politicat' life, ho was not so- closely bound to .him ..as to pia his. .poiitieallaithon , the sleeve of his Noble Friend, .or.of any other individual. He had retired itom office tvithoet mortification or disappointment—not. without having been honoured by tbogracious and condescending kind. Ines' of his Sovereign, and-.pleasad with the very hand isome.conduct .-af , the . Noble .Dake.at thotead.of :the !Government, - foe which- hofeli-all proper gratitude: Eitl•MOWLEYdeelared that, being an old friend of, :Mr. Cantsing...i°d.hor ing heard that diffteeptesettisted, :between that Right Non. Gentians:o'o friends malliiher principal idekthims of the -present- Gieernatient ; 'he ahoollwit necessary toatate the reasons why heahould give his support . to the Government.. Aloes he should' isay, that whether on the matter of theta foreign p.liGn 'or domestic, thertnotal courage and• single put pose of !the liertne-Digiomirtha, head Of the Zervernimento wail sealeatatedVitrAiree'the dangers and inconversient tariingf foists an - stnitadeal Goetviiinent,. a iith.as the latit, one :, for shisateasosolse trrouldsuportt t the Crorernintial .of.his Noble 'Fatendi- - and-wat4ltererinihiploiir fht - kilifil ostensory- of hit Right Hon.: Friends' •riny-:thifig Sn'Pre Arcot h her from giving,:hit t -N I) tthi.Failid h s 'Support 2' IWhissite•lookod arithen great.: political:hawses ot ;be, tGbenteitnentt beower-oeateasen-aeradishetist it;-ost bellies ilardwe'poliet adolrtedattrtrafeh - SOuth- A mei ice or-G rite* thi eleetallieratilTu4ndr, or the Corharicstion, he tats' tip.4l4-ptlealtehttallikoCali thoseiquestions nothing ;has, , wietravene Ibiottlionsseuppoetiagssltein. dOliniatitarl ' of • the ' NObleOmßetie.- ' hr +attar; .. 'matters had in cta happy consoirabatione and Id' that espeditico bi be reaseashemd.4o. , ll4lllOktDitke 41144 Aug . . yr eeeretetrati-otheeNcilskaDeholtadealsoieperroeto prinaipitatinellihttiarttots iiie.reesiteitieer of A* • . 'A tooricAn Statik 7 4. At tneflo*eizt/144Ibble Ekikill l ' . '• 'beets a pstrtoalie.PiatoCol Sikst.feesikd iiti his* st•ibeTteety olLesnleng. Onndesisiassion skims** , ire. could be otrdoobtef`his , Oileeoeinseneieneraftioi , ish speech the oehErnight : add tit( lketitliOMAQo4l tion they had the Noble Dilltei . assuistice of Valet neutrality and impartiality in the distribution of she pilitntoage ultis tiffice. After this, the friends. of tht "Cat,follgalsoci no tease to fear,. As I'o.oirate feelings; ire ribisKaot say boa far they ought to:be all , isrra:d tt regolateithe public duty of men; but kirk would assert, f thaktliere were no such personal feelieo of hostility' between his late Right Hon. Friend and the Noble Mite. Who gave the Noble Duke mote ardent sup ,port in that theatre of his gtatelshe campaigns of the -Peninsula,than his late Right Hon. Friend ?...Were.not their Lordship' aware 410 .of that Right Hon, geoqe : mAn's insiety that OW 1444 Duke should resume the. command of, the army ? As to the Right .gort,Secreo tar y : for the - pet tmefies. policyothereesiaed between him and Mr. Canting the greatest unanimity on arm ipointvetedputhe Catholic .auestion, Betw his lattetriend and the.Noble.bord (Bathurst) there was any thing but afeeling 'Cor hi o tilit. 7 ., ntinslude, he' could see nothing in the relations „betecen,hia Right Hon. Friend aud.dame Noble and lion. Persons, which ought to hinder .She Friends of. Mr. Canning fuomnct , ing with there.—The , House adjourned to Thutsilay. HOUSE OP &0/1:11024 Imnlediately after the SpeAkar had talseu..ths Chair, the llouse Was siumnoned by the Liaher-of the 11lack • Ilod, to attend in Ric" House of Lords, and hear the Royal Assent giecp ,by permission to certain Bills_ At his return, the .Speaker. accordingly acquainted the Hanse l that the Royal Assent had been givei.to.the'FachequerkLidis mid the Transfer of Aids 0111. • .'►lr. SriCER, from Liaises Hovital,prcsented at the bar certain .nsoUrntennuetted with that charity, Me. STURC.43 gave in certain returns front the Insolvent Deb tors' Court. . Mr. DA NKIF,S moved the mead main of the Doreetehire Lunatic Axylrnuliill. .• Mr. BERKELEY . PORTMAN observed, that al though he was well -aware howeestti' suil k irae testy a single word on the second seeding of the Bill, he could not forbear observing, on tie present nccasioa,that tbeneesseity for a Rill was .a very painful one, under the circumstances of thecae*. Ilene was a munificent who,,in csrder•tea accomplish a noble work. of charity, ' had made a present to the County of his wank house and estate, and had even offered w.defray the tiecespery expences of obtaining the .act. The case was so peguliqt, that.hejilr. P.) could wit help eel ling the attention of a Right lion. Gentleman • (Mr. Peel), to the hardship which the law of Mortntain.„o the laudable desire of pre. venting individuals from alienating their own property, might sume• times induces. The Bill was then read a second time and committed. Several Road and Enclosure Bill 4 were then proceeded in. Mr. Alderman WOOD brought up the Report of the Era India VeMI Dock IP; * to provide further accontmodation at kwall for Ran India Shipping. Mr. Alderman WOOD brought np the Report on the London Railway Bill, a Bill for a Trant.road from VVhitechapel to the Lea Iron-bridge, and the roads branching ther•frOm. CORPOKATIOKAND TOT ACTS. Petitions for the repeal of these Acts were presented by Lord Watusat PowLerr, from Stockton, South Barnard Castle, And another place • by Mr.. Baartsr.o'r from Sberkerwe, Doneolaire; by Mr. G. P. WILLIAMS, from Great hlsrlow ; by Mr. CMARLIM DUIIDAS, three from Newburg, and one from Bo lingbroke; by Sir G. RICIMARiI PHILLIPS, from Haverfordwest ; U 7. Ur. Muenv, frees Derbyshire; by Mr. TALMO?, from the city of Warwick Sir Tg Mown, from Flintshire ; by Mr. DAM,' roar, from Stockton ; by the Earl of Servos, from Fortteth, in the county of Lancaster; by Mr. Stratooe, from Fulvrood, in the eoenty of Somerset; by Colonel Dawtres, from Boroughloridge ; by Mr. PMT.'S, from Chkbester; by Lord Elmore. from Bury St. almonds; by Mr. Hoteswortme.from Pomfret; by Mr. Ciroatu Patorea. front Walworth; by Mr. Diceseson„from South Merl. Tale, in the county of Somerset, of which he observed, that It was signed by churchmen and dissenters; but there was a majority of the latter among the subscribers. The same Hon. Gentleman pre sented a similar petition from I larton. Mr. KENNEDY presented two Petitinns ; one from a parish in Scotland, praying assistance fame Parliament far the purpose al promoting Eanigrat.on ; and the other Bum an indivi dual named Murdoch, complaining of the severe tax upon com merce, which was imposed by the Stamp Duty on receipts, and praying that the law in that respect might be repealed. Petitions against the Malt Acts of last Session, were presented by Mr..hlussor. frum the Maltsters of Dartford; by Sir 'l7. Nos tra, (tom the Meitner* .of Flintlhire; by Mr..Davviroas, from the blak•ters of Ctiester ;. by Mr. B. WALL, from the Coonti of Southampton; and by Mr. Dicasmsox, from Tioyil,Somenetibire.l _.._.._ CATHOLIC aIIANCITATIOS. • Mr. CRA DOCK presented a Petition from the Catbotics of Kilmury, praying for a repeal of the. Test Act, and the ungratified entamip.ition of every clam of religitmists from the db. ahiiities arising from religious opinions.. - - - Mr. HUME, in presenting three Petitinns from the County of Cann, praying for C,itholie Emancipation, toli occasion to enlarge upon the folly of continuing the distinctions which arise frosn religious spiniops. SirJOIIN BRYLVES condemned the practice in. dulged in by Hun. Gentlemen, of haranguing upon the subject of t•ery Petition they present to the House. Mr. 1' ALLA C (of Y .rmouth) addressed the House for the first time. Ile said it was .desirable that the fullest information should be given. on every subject . p , ainected with the digresses of Ireland, and the ma nifold evils which .grew out of those distresses and ag. gravated them. 'thing's could not go on in the way in they now were•in Ireland ; and every occasion "should be taken both in season and out of season," in eXprgiating on the wrongs of that coonti y, and of the Urgent necessity of redie.sing them,—(Hear,lear). He could not, therefore, concur in the ,observation of the Honourable Baronet (Sir J. Brydges) that these Peti ;joss should be presented in silence. The pre,entation of these Petitions was a proper and constitutional one for expressing the opinions of Members on the subjects to which these Petitions referred. If the Hoof,e was not, rerniuded,of . the evils complainectof, they might forget them—Wear, heat). The mere laying of Petitions. • upon the Tabled the House in the manner in which they •were laid, could answer no beneficial purpose. For twenty•five years Petitions had been laid upon the i table of the House, and yet the evils complained cf siere not redressed. The Hon. and Learned Gentle man concluded by enforcing the expediency of fre t:l:trent!, teminding.tlie House of the grievances cow-, piained of in the/ Petition now, btforethe•HOttire;'itsd' ,thanking the Mese for the .attention ..with• which his. t opsetvarons• had been received--(Hear, hear). 'Mr. HU.ME presented several Petitiqns from Ashton, .Bslth, and me other places, from the Proyestant fru; ing . Jo; theJlegeril, of thX Teskimi. aOPIX . , STAMP .DUTY.. • . i hit; 1.11.151 E presented a Petition from Brecon, cora pleitiing of the rwnpenny Stamp Duty, which brought jin,iccoirbiderable reverses, . which ,was unequal in .its (sper Ilion, and was attended 'with vexatious litigation. The Petitioners alsOtompliined cf,the Legacy Duty, which was attended in ita t operation with great inequa 4isrp and Isardshipii‘iits.easctisa. When a poor person .died—a person, for instance, who may not have more than 201. 3 —it was necessary that this should be .heavily Natal, and that all the articles about him, even to the • t-tap and aborts of the deceased, should be taxed by this Act, for the repeal of which the Petitioners now prayed. Again,. a man who may have assets to the litautint . of 1,5b01. though he owed : that sum, and Alien . illillf *Omaha.. yet befece these assets could be touched they were sultietted to sheduty of 6QI. The Petitioners abet enr*Onad of 1 practice that prevailed in Scotland, • it no persda could n i nstitute a Suit for the recovery of 'of war atuate too guisteas,,oithoot being subjected h o a fine el , 4e6d. The 'favourable Gentleman stated, that all thesechnievere levied with great hardship, and wlto 'ithe *mown Wirtth they brought to the rev enue , i t ould tSd'entird 'thin ttittrisensaled ty the reduction of ... one useless regiment of cavalry, or one useles regiment : 4'f ininntry. Vlr• BRIGHT concurred itt the opinion of the Hon. . • tesitleman, Oat those small duties on stamps were an. du • ct. proive to the Revenue, and ettrernely vexatious on 'the poorer classes. He considered' that these duties were more vexatious in their operation than the Salt Tax, which was repealed two SessZeit . ago: oOe-sor the hardships of these small Sesnip Omits, that the Stamp. Office ad r ert ised. for informers, to_ discover arts thine who infringS4 "the Statute. ; • Mr. SYKES. said, that the ptesint law sport this sub.. ject was extretnely oppressive to the population of the ,town ittull). which he represented. He thought rt a ;severe hardshilithat the Stamp Office should adirernme . forinfinniers, in the ; manner svbich. they notoriously .did. He hoped the Legislature would direct its atm& 'tion,to the Subject, in reference to Which be had some Petitions ,t 'present... Mv.,I3ARING,was of. opinion that the 4 informers* • did not 'dryers* the censure with which sortie H'isifi Gentlemen were dis;:o ed- to •visit them.,- Informers' . %Vele the only means Which the Legidature bad foe enforcing the observance of the laws which it enactedi -and after they had .encouraged, these informers, it was not fir to-turn round upon them, and to upbraid them with the wiium of their . Ocitrimtiort. But for these informers the law would be evaded, and their services wete required in order to prevent the'more harsh and oppressive course ot intruding on private families. lie thr‘ught those Members spoke. very rot lisfilY who talked of the rapacity of Goe c roment, because informers were employed to carry into. effect what could not be carried into effect without. them. However severely the penalties may sometimes be felt,_those penalties protected the honest trader from the dishonest one, who' violated the law. Mr. WARBURTON concurred in the opinion ex pressed as to the Oppiesirt character and n a t u re of the Spi me referred to, which pressed with unequal hardship on the humbler aisses, ' Mr. Alderman WAITI,MAN said, that both (corn 'he City of London and lritti Vaiious pas t. of the Country,. complaints had reached him of the oppressive hardship And cruelty pf the duties mentioned in the Petition. Sir M. W. RIDLEY and several other Members ex pressed their opinions to the same effect, altor which the Petition was brought up. -- • , r. RETURN& Mr. HUM moved for Retarns of the number of Etchequer Bills sold, the prices of sale, and by whom Vie sale was made, for the last two years.--Agreed to. The Honourable Member moved for several other lteturne. among which were Returns of the names of the Magis. traces of the King's County to whom copies of the statutes were forwarded by the King's Printer in Dublin. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that he had no , objection Ito offer to the Motion which the Honourable Gessibeman I had now submitted, but he would take thisoppertunity of recommending to the Honourable Gentleman, as a suitable subject for the consideration of the Finance Committee, the expences which were incurred by these Returns. Extra charges to a very considerable amount were made for tbe cure attendance of clerks; an in• crease in the number, of clerks, itc. was necessirity im• nosed by the delivery of those returns, in fulfilling the orders of this. House. Some discretion in the moving of' returns would make a considerable reduction in the expense; for instance, instead of moving for ten years back, whero returns for two years would baffle e. Again, by limiting the returns moved for to any presumed ground of tomplaint, or some specified object. lie stilted this.at st general remark worthy the attention of 0 e Finance Copsnutze., and not with any reference to the returns now moved for, although these observations were, in some degree, siggested by seeing the pile of returns at the Oar of the House, which were prepared in sicordance with Motions of the Right Hoo. Member for Aberdeen. __ _._ Mr. MABERLY said, that without ample return, it Was impossible for. Gentlemen who sat upon that aide of the House to come to a proper discussionsif suhjects, as Gentlemen who possessed the advantages of official information would, readily contradict them. Without such returns, therefore, they bad not the necessary means of isfosmstion.—The Returns were then *deli& • On the Motion of Mr. PROTHEROE, on Address was ordered to be presented to bb Majesty, praying that he wank' be greeloasiT Pirescd tq terAettltat. there be laid before the Howe an Account of the ice pro**. of the sale of the Public Records printed at the public epentchsf . the number of tropics remain ing unsold, &c._ * _ Messengers float their Lorddsips baying requested a copy of the Third Report of the Committee as Emigration, were ',formed, that it should ►e sent tosheir Lordships. Sir G. PHILLIPS presented a Petition fr qm Mr. Thomas Bakevrell, the keeper of ai Insane Anima, called Spelog Vale, in Staffordshire, praying for the Repeal of cat* 443,4 re. spec!ing Lunatic Asylums. ' • Mr. W. PEEL presented a Report from the Visiting Magistrates, on the-Prisons in Iliddleset..—Ordend to be printed. The following Pititions were presented in favour of the Catholic Claims s—From Tyrone; by Mr. Bots.a, 13 Petitions front Parishes in Cork. Sir M. W. RIDLEY presented a Petition from New. castle, praying a Repeal of the Duty on Stamp Receipts. ‘The Ilea. Member gave notice,that on Tuesday he Wo u ld suave for a Return of Stamp Receipt ties, and an Account of the &Deem ot printing Petitions and other Documents presented to Parliarneet. CLWRICAL SCANDAL. Mr. NICHOLSON CALCRA FT presented a Peti tion from Mr. Burgoyne of Sutton, in Bedfordsbise, relative to the removal of Clergyman from the above parish. The Honourable Member :said, that in 1808 a Dr. Free was appointed to the above living by one of the Colleges of Oxford, but he proved to be a person of such profane and profligate habits, that the Parish IChurch was danced to the extent that the emigres's tion seldom consisted of more than one old woman and two or three little children, The Peskiest prayed, that the Horne would take into consideration the keavy expenses of removing a deprived Clergyman by any legal process in the Ecclesiastical Courts. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that the Petitioner was a respectable Gentleman, who had attempted, upon public principles, to remove from his parish a Clergyniao, against whom be (Mr. Peel) must say, these was a re ' suniptive proof of rinproper conduct. This legal pro ceedings to attain this object had been vexatious, dila tory, and expensive in the extieme s . In consequence of the repeated representations . 'Made to him upon the subject, when he had the honour recently to 611 the office of Secretary of State for the Home Department, he had in March last addressed a letter to the Attorney and Solicitor•Geueral, requiring them to take into consideration whether it might not be possible to promote the interests. of the Church by facilitating the removal by law of any vicious Minister from his parish.? The subject was full of 4ilkoky, soadrrequited the most c a ref u l consideration. In the present gage, the cause, after the most expensive litigation, bad been earriokby a Wilt of Error to the House of Lords, and the costs aU fell en the Bishop and the Churchwardens. l'he ATTORNEY GENERAL said, that the result of the inquiry, which himself and his Learned Friends had made, In compliance with the night Hon. Gentleman's elquilition. was, tha a more summary process might be adopted for deprivation duo that at present prevailing.—The Petition was then ordered to be on thc table, IRISH VESTRIES AND SUB-TSNAurs. • Mr. FONSONBY presented a Petitimiftoin a parish 113 dm , Vestrie Mr. from 1 1101 'SO thougl fiese° Mr, 'the La ought. acquai to em •r~isina for th; 'Canal ought' happy Mr. much <Need latioa, that tt the be, PoPt!l? iTcold opul4o patieh IV4. severa able; a fatied yeasrdi He *a 'well in and it to resu Learns Act wl opinioi unjult, MG Learnt sante constru Mt. for ni contini Let:Hi on the thew all the positii He nit=s lif;a. of tis 4 will ject, i alodil labor Os is Thu - Sit Copy Ws, o . mit I Pas a 11j o bad' tbit tpti heel tEe