Star. — London, England, 1828-06-24 00:00:00

4 • lii +1 ' t 1' t / • - , • / 1 • l • t. 0 , • 4 k he had never yet heard of any rational mode in which force enuli be a plied. Lori+ CALTHORPE explained. He had not recom mended the emp osment of force. The Duke of WELLINGTON was sorry to be com pelled to retreat to the Noble Lord hiiiiwnexpiessions. But he had'cettaialftalked of withdrawing the British troops, and. leaving the planters unprotected, io the power of the negio population. Lord CALTHORPE had only expressed his asto nishment that the planters should set the British Go. vernynent at defiance, when they' knew that it had this treinend power i'. its hinds. Lord SEAFORD said, that he certainly did n ot con sider the present incidental discuss ion as a fit opportu nity to enter much at large i n to the question ; but he felt that fie should be guilty of injustice to the great in. tetest with which he was c onnected, if he otaitted alto gether the opportunity of stating to their Lordships his sentiments upon the subject. He bad never before ad dressed their Lordships upon this queition, in which he was deeply interested; and he would now, therefote, 'submit to t'tem a brief sketch of his opinions upon the subject. He could. not do so better than by quoting hed the words of a Report of the African Institution, publis in the year 1815. The Noble Lord here read a pretty long extract from the-Report, which set rorth in sub stancethat the Institution did not look,forward to eman cipatiOn by in insurrection of the negroess, or other violent means; but by a benign and gradlial change of Opinion, by the effect of separate and voluntary maim missions sliding imperceptibly into general freedoms. by a the ge. in effecting which the master should be a more,willing party than the slave. He was convinced that this was the only mode id which slavery could be edgy or beneficially extinguished. It must be by sepa rate and partial matopmissions, aorentiog gradually Into general freedom--afeeetlom, in the production of which sot the slay" but the masters, are the instru ment*, and the withal; inswitMents. It was a liberty only to be effected by : the introduction of moral im provement, in whiChthe master of the slate Must be the principal agent . For this sentiment he had the authority 4304r_ ..Canniog, who hail introduced it in a passag e of the 010 A Spleadid. elitg se n c e. which, with permission.he.sioisld"tead to :the Holte..—(The liable Lord here swag en expect from one of Mr.:Ceaaing's epeecheo— with !fajtct to the small degree of 'aid Which this great WS, good work could derive fiom - lehislative enact he *at e foundsanetion for" his opiniou in Mi. )llsiogbasis's work on.colonialpoliCy. The author of !hat work said, that Whitten! Parliament or 'Council in Great BriXaia Andarlook task of legislating for the Colonies, must aisindoa of- legislating for great Britain, pattlito muitiO parity to peglect the 111Orlt:if iegistating foe tha'West. Indi e s . The linty of tegialating for thelrist Indiis ought to be left to local •kiuserlodgertod information.; :He cou ld farther coo°. borate this•Opinton l ay, that Cif" Ms. Foot,- Oho, in the plenitide of hispower, and on the eve of the abolition is glee Slave Trade, had said, that, the, idea of emanci pron by, the authority of .the British Parliament, was notch - imams in its Consequence,. extra tagert in its con. tiOtioot Nut inpyracticabte in its execution. The last aethority fr to which hp shield refer,sn4 perh#pa it was also the grnatest„. was' this .cr Mr. Wilberforge, who in 1804, two years before the had said, - that after tte abolition of the Slave Trade, all subsequent measures milk' be, left to the Colonial Legislatures. This was, a 3 he had sap, two year's - before the abolition ; it might perhao f* difficult to 60a any similar language pro ceeding Beim the same,;Ource since the ObOlition. The qUotationa he had made bom the Repoit Oldie Akio- CiatiOD ) (rem Canning. 'Brougham, Pox,..ind Wilber force,. Constituted. his vied upon this subject. But to the reCammendation - of .the Noble Lord, that of coma Okay manuotissioo, he coul4 never assent. He sleeted thot . Governinent had ever abandoned the ptin e.iele:of gradual and voluntary emancipation, the only principle .1 which histoiy ifforded any successful ex ample, for that Of compulsory toiseeasissions which was dangerous in.its Smow.piiteeteCti, extravagant in its ea,. 12 Ow,. and. opits,execution impracticable. Salons tut the slave fek thaitlftii,.l4attounssioti depeOded upon she will pf his,naa'sl'er, be would, be ilesirous to please': bipt, if his manumiseiots weieto be.ctimpulsory upon the master, be wootd feelit b interest to di*lnish his own and smiles birtsielf as wrirthleis to his master as ha to comet.'lb . 04ther band, die master would utchscied to deprive t h e slave of the means of pup. -assist; his fosselom, and to taki away from him the tadolgainens he, Roar . enjoyed: They might 'impel him Oa 'the* did so posik* for the wh ale's", of she slaie IVO as the., labourers of this ciao d:V . I were provided for; but they. could not compel Dint to lei** in the power of the slate the means of Otaaki a find for the paschal* of his own freedom. 'They Would, in fact, drive the master to this indirect course of perpetuating his property, and thus aura. *ate instead of mitigating she -4rrila infietetst in the re lation of master and dive, and "poloist:those feelings et astral good wilt which were now found to subsist. Ater theie reasons, nut ins,belsOlf Of the master so much as of the dave l hemnst engross >t feeling adverse to the *passes of the Noble Lord. .-With respect to the Reso led* of Parliament and the, teders_which the Govern wainebad limped, they bad his entire approbation, and be tegretted that tfley had not experienced a more fa. vosrable reception in the West 'lndies. But he felt bound to say that the l motives of the Colonists had been grossly Mitsepresented,hy the two Noble Lords, and that what the Colonists had &me hailbeen treated with tidegree of convn,spt which' was altogether unjust. He would not go hoe a detailed examination of the Coasts lidsted Slave pfl offfamaica but upon one point, and 'that which wits ci!' all others the 'most important, that of moral irospro'eatent and religious instruction, he vientored to bit/ th'ie wet...no ground of dissatisfac tion with the disposition knanitested by the planters. Upon this' subject. he conbilently appealed to the 'Noble Lord, whet bid psemtled over the Colonial IDgpartment it Oil period d. (be retort improvement -is the Chotch EVOlslishmetit hi' die IYOt Indies, and bad stilllheiftjently had opportunities Of correspond leg !All the BishE ps—he confidendfappealed to the 'Noble lord re w state what he kne of the disposition boils W the Legislatures of the West India Islands and .Of the,tolonists s with ,respect to this imPortant subject. lie insisted upon di!, because it war of the greatest ilitportatice. Moral improvement was the only safe basis of ernancipatiOn. Without regard to this, they epsq never accomplish ohs{ pasrpoie, consistently with *at condition to which they lad solemnly pledged theinsetves, at the tease time that they bad pledged 'ffaesosetves trielfe'Ct the great work a emancipation.— . he condition emoncipatiia should be ac 1014Plisheil by such Meatiss were compatible with the i sytt„,being of the s nave , . Berth she salty el the Coloo ''d srltltsdlp itabi vi r t i . ti s ed pric • es property. 14x1 BATH bowleg been refeend to, bad' gees pleases is being enoldedso state, boot camp., iskoloackickid kohl wish the of Jamaica and Blipaleas• that thus Peaatesia tbsii theuiti thiossfi Planter...generally Most solicit _ _-_-, and religton,autOug their slaves. In anoiber particular alio, be most corroborate the state. ment of his Noble Friend, They were pledged to the abolition of slave r y —but the y were equally ple,tged that it should be accomplished in a manner compatible with the welfare of the slaves, the tranquillity and safety of the Islands, and the integrity of properly.,, One of these pledges was as binding uporfrhem as tbf other. And with whatever difficulties it might be aid tended, it was their duty to attempt to fulfil both. By adhering to the present system, there was the greatest probability that both might be accomplisbed. l —at least no system had yet been suggested which appeared so likely to lead to the fulfilment of both. The Petition was then ordered to lie upon the table. • Lord CA LTHORPE then presented Petitions to the same effect from Eirtniogham and Wakefield. Several Bills were forwarded in their respective stages without discussion, after which the House adjourned until tomorrow (this day). HOUSE OF COMMONS. Colonel DAVIES presented a Petition from the Glove Manu facturers of Worcester, praying for Protection from Foreign Gloves. Mr. ROBINSON gave notice, that on Thursday he should pre sent a Petition from the Mayor and Corporation of Worcester. on the state of the Clove Trade of that city, and would then call the attention of the' House to the subject. Sir R. VIVIAN presented Petitions from Falmouth, and ano ther place in Cornwall; for the Abolition of Negro Slavery. Sir R. VIVIAN waved that an Address be presented , to his Majesty, to give directions to all his Consuls abroad, to make Re ports of the Reguladons respecting the Import and Export of all Merchandite, and the Duties payable thereon; in the corntries in Which. duty reified. Mr. WARD presented a Petition from the Lord Mayor and, Liverymen of London; one of whom was Mr. Hutu, praying for Io Regidation of the Office of Sherif and Secondary of the City of l o ondon; Mr. Alderman WOOD said, the Petition had been alined IttJ December, since diet a Committee of the Cofpotetion had matte a' Report that the °Aloe of Secondary should be sold as , 16311, eon.' trary to WI prayer of the 'Petition. He therlght no place should be sold, and would sqpport the prayer of the Petition. Mr. Alderman W4/THMAN hoped a general regulation of the Office et Sheriff all obey the kingdom would speedily take place. ' Mr. TALBOT presented a Petition from the Irish Mining Company against the Importation of Foreign Lead. lik JOHN BRIDGES presented a Petition from the Reverend Sir Harcourt Lees against fnrther Concessions to the 'Catholics. Colonel CHICHESTER presented a Petitioofrom the cciustty of Wexford, against Frauds in the Police Establishment of Ireland. Sir R. INGLIS presented a Petition from Mr. Henry Thcas vier, complaining of the atisapplkatiou of money received from the French Government as compensation for British subjects. Sir W. ROWLEY presented tworPetitions from places in Suf folk_ for the shade* of Slavay . Mr. SPOTTISWOODE presented a similar Petition from Saltash. Mr. PENDARVIS presraited a Petition front an indiehiesel named Hawkins, in Cornhall, against Ecclesisadcal Fees on virs)! tamentary property. • - Mr. Alderman WAITH MAN presented a Petition from the parish of St. Andrew, Holborn, against the Bill for extending '.ht power of the Coenroiseimers 'for building new churches. He hoped the Bill would not be pressed dining the present Session: • Mr. LYTTLETON said, the Commissioners for building new churches bad conducted themselves with great discretion i bucks thought the petitioners were entitled to have their objections to the Bill considered, and that time Abilld be allowed for that mop**. Mr. WESTERN printed a Petition form•the inhabitants of Chelmsford, and three other places In Essex, against Slavieriss the West Leer :11GRAVIC presented a similar Petition from . er• • Mr. Aide/Man THOMPSON presented a Peados from We'. Bechtold, N0.'1400. Holbrien Bridge, praying that a' arose . Mil • be inserted in the Alehouse LicenUog li for the protettioad the Vintners' Conqsany. - • Sir ROBERT WILSON presented a Petition from the paidsb of St. George, Cestiberwell, against -the New Churches Bid. Mr. HOBHOU'SE h4ed the Bid was not •di hi pressed this Session. • Whoa :the bidbon War granted the Chimeellor - of the Exchequer distinctly stated, that the public should not be cilia 9a for any further sums on that account,. instee of which: ,the went to - establish a complete system of taxation. Wed . Bill would be misipenedtill seat *essittn. ' ••• ' ' Mr. W. SMITH premed-thepositoneusent of *tin; Mr. MARSHALL reoommendedthat time shouldha Mi the consideration of the WI till ant ,Ses.lon. • Leeds . 'Mr. MARSHALL presented a Petition from L esal4ist the Burning of •Wedriwsla‘ladia. Sir GEORGIC MURRAY'presented papers is explidaii if the measures taken by Government for the Anchored's...Alb very in the West Indies. Mr. BERNAL presented a Petition from Mr. Wm. Newland. complaining that the 'Corneille:users for liquidating claims on the French Government had &Unwed the Petitioner but three' per cent. interest colds debt homed of hve pee cent. which had been allowed to other adamants. The CHANCELJAut lAA@ EXCHEQUER mid the/ could not deal with a partholer case, but mast decide all claims by a general rule. Me. Nevi/land bad Made two• appeals to the Privy Council, by whom his claim had boon allowed to the fullest nom io which be was added. Sir,GEORGE PHILLIPS saki a house la Manchester for. Warded their claim for a large sum to a banker In Paris, who did sot possum lc in time. He burped they would not bi compethrd td /BM their ateneyby the delay of the French bankers, particularly m there was 1140,0001. of the sum received from the French Govern ment "unapptied. 'Mr. BRlGHTnoticed the claims of those Gentlemen seise kid unspened the French prisoners (hring the period that the French Gememmit had rineontractors in this country for that purpose, andilemnaded that it unease which merited and called for the se elms soundest and coosideratfon of the Government. • Biz GEORGE PHILLIPS said the French Papers eazplained of the frond Facia* by the British Government on the Freticla i Government, by tiding s Min of money on pretence . of satio l ,CHANCELLOR Mos Drills' claimants. andupplylng it to tire use of the Govern . of the EXCHYVER said, that the nam sided to by the Hon. Member (Mr. Bright) dearly dld.not • Mai ender the Treaty of Paris. With rr,pect ro that dam lowa which bad been necked by the Hon. Baronet (Sir Q. lips), however great the hardship might be, still it a party, through his agents, did not apply within the specific! dine. be must sects. eerily be the !Mee. Mr. SPRING RICE said, as long es There tans me just claim uneatielied, the money should not be oppliet to any 'ebbe alike. plaar. Mr. ) BERRIES said, farther time had, beta ince afforded.M. those who had not preferred their claims; butthere must lion same limit fixed, or there would be ao end of Jaime. • Mr. SEYMOUR said, he derived a tch;an from his *dm a ,0001., but if the Government would apply it to use palmlike the National Debt. lie would glaillyigin it up for that purpose. Lord JOHN RUSSELL &voila that while any surplus ri. ..„ mained, no just claim shouldhe shut tutu. Mr. COURTENAY Weida in a. Bill to amend tiMLawe ri; biting to Pilots and Bahr.-head a first time, and orderedaille read a second time on Thursday. Mr. HEATHCOTE preiented a Petition front theWoolerowne of Boston for protection against. Foreign Wool. Mr. PEEL moved the tbir4 tending of the Church Brief Bill.' Mr. LYTTLETON nogratukted the - ruble and.the Clergy at the Bill having been taken under the protection of the Right Hon. Gentleman. by irbidi it was rendered more perfect than if it had been left in his (Mr. Lyttleton's) hands. He was sorry the Hon. Alderman mutant present irbo tied stated that Hsieh were fumed, as he was now convinced of his error. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said his Hon. Conmirse desired him to state that be bad been ndstakeib—The BIN itas-irtardatho time and passed. _ 1111711. T. The CHANCELLOR etiii-e--,EXCHaRKER My" the Order of the Day for the Howe gektineo a Cora*ttemg EkikplY to Ms Majesty. The Eight Be.. Outketan took WA *por osity of sayil, that a propeakki wf.tdt he bet Intended di sob. sit ea the &object et Education he should ba obliged to palpate to thysett Seisms. Er. S. RICE had go objection to the cone lotendettte be por• teed, as, st dte remelt neatest, die discnaska of the dilatation of esittearioo in !retard might give re to a debate wide maga fed unrodoedve of good. Sir J. NEWPORT, in justice to Mansell whit relit est:e to tee Cork Institution, said, that when that grant wars wade, it wee sti pulated that It timid Luc three plats and no halm He, therefensi retested evilest bring called the father of the continued stash The•CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ladyfinger Int gated to the Hosalert. that there was a" Orin the (vaginal MGR LBWIS wished to know whack:die ion of the Comosksiemen,' relative a the Botanical GentSiti . 46 . 4 Agpriooltural Society, kid boss attended tot • - • • • After a lsw wake from Mr. V. &WAVY and MA P. wpm wtobad soirdwa the met &elk% • • • • t e sa M oon II be unnecessary delay. As to the application of force. out to promotesnorall . _r tathit•ll 7. ft Anther Dal giCalat . appointed by this country for the liquidation of do* drums. An Act was passed. the S9th of the late Ki m ,. in which certain Commissioners were nominated ° to pviardand liquidate these claims, and of course do e proceeded to the objects of their inquiry, and had, ao 'doubt, acted as persons so circumstanced ought to act. He did not mean to refer to the whole to that Act of Parliament, but there was the conchs. sion of one clitlie - ; Whiett 'it - *it netessery sho rld be in possession of. 'The part to Which h e alluded enacted, .than 'braise all, sects-deem-A uld be liquidated, the money should be appropriated 10 such other purpose as the •Cominissioners of the Tres. sort. or any three of them, should appoint; that out rheneeet there was any actual surplus over the claim er it was to be at the disposal of Ale Lords of the Trey. Bury, or any three of them, that 'number formi ng quorum. There oas an Act of the 6th of Gen. w. t . , triable the Commissioners of Woods and Forest , whet by the 4th of the King were to pay certain SUMS to th e Consolidated Fund, instead opt so doing, to p ay Ott , 70,0001. per year of it to defray the expenses avendi m , the building. 9r rebuilding, of Buckingham Palace,: Of this grant only i 1,0001 . -. was actually advanced lode. fray the expenses attending the actual building,th eten baring been applied to the alterations of the gar dens aw l bonding of th e stables. At the same time the Lords of th e / v et mightbe to construed as to mean that all th e expe nses ntteuding any part of Buezingliam House Trete to be defrsyed oat Of the hereditar7 revenue of the c ropoi subject to therein:rot:l of the Corrimis.ioners of W oo d s Votele s s. This work was undertaken in 1825, ga d 'into its proptiety hp. (lid net mean to enter. He gas quite convincer' that the vote of any sum of money ier cessary for the maintenance of the splendour of t h e Crown would becheerfully acquiesced Why the pegyi e f this coontry ; but he was equally convinced that say improper diversion (-1 a sum voted by Act of ?grin. ment liom its intended purpose would be d enied' so. justifiable, and aught to be visited with runislimnit.- This *as no party question. but one which Would p to decide whether the King', Ministers hid the pow er of disposing at their pleasurz*ld . any surplus sum a t. money that might' by accident fail into 'their hauls ) without consulting Parliament, even though' 'P o h l , meat should be then sitting? ¶l'be case before the Elnusele coosidered to involve a Most clandestine During the ishole of the periods in which the matey • bed been issued, Parliament had actually been sitting... IF delay could there:ore h.ive been apprehended; and consequently no excuse 'could be offered foe Ministers in having omitted 'to apply for the coned of the Legislature to that which. wltbout it, became' misappropriation. Parliament would t.ave only to do' elate that, although only one sum of 70,0001:had bat: paid out of the gross amount ordered to be advanced by annual parments of 70,000!.for the buildin g and to' pairs of palaces, it would be expedient to appropi hear surplus in question, and there *mold have been abaft of the difficulty. That had drotbeen done, however, aria he could only account for Lord Liverpool souittingthe fcrmal necessary steps by supp-sittg that his Lorihip found that largie . ittms of money were demanded of limo• and that be had no other Mode of meetinglhosedeosedi than by this his-appropriation. The .detalestion Moe' ing been discovered by the Commissioners of lan* . (as we understood), it was determined to apprise Littl Liverpool 'of that tact. OR the Report being mimic* his Noble Friend (Lord 7.:arnb Irougb) then at of the Woods and Forests, the Chief Conudiseisesuef Liquidation was Sent for, and •in answer to *aim - put to him, stated all the Circumstances of the ttailser-• anon. The House would recollect the similar approptise tio'n of another surplus, which had been facetiously termed. a o Ged•send," and on the same potted M. supposed'the case under consideration would be weed as similarly disposable • but he held that that fond so .sacredo-athat consider able • caution should have boa exercised great reluctance evinced, and a strong case of necessity made out,• before such an appli cation of money should have been directed without the sanction of Parliament. He understood rothing of what was called State Policy, bat he understood plain truth, which would be always found to le the•safest guide. and which in the present case to that which ought to have been followed.... The Goo ftliSSlOtier (of Liquidation) was asked, 44 WhatoMOber this fund is thereremaining?" He replieslo 4 3ooo4 I think. but I am quite sure we have at yonr.dispool .250,000.—(A laugh). .eg - Welt,"` said -the other pants we will dispose . of it for y00.".--(Laughtels Theo? propriation cotisequentit . trsiakpl#e. - bnt Witfieet apt* city. In this cuse it was renisirkable that the Treasury Minute for the issue of the *first 100,000/..was dated I twenty days after the issue—(Heac). 't he ;issue took place on the 10th Matth i . l626, and therreasory Minute of Lord Liverpookhdredate 30th March. in the saws year. The Trersurytbdinute stated, moreover, that the -ist of FEROUSON ltigrited, Whelk! kWI6 Intended to toenail 11111 ealliraikat)lt~ in *WIWI? ..•. - • •••• . Mr. Nowak/ ,g , p,Kr. , was hot then prepared to answer the. tree don, bit the matter *as natFer-stost - sidkration • He, however, thought target* Ant! ea weliwitilledlst an Increase of - Marg. • Mr. LBSLIR FOSTER hoped the Irish Judges would not be forgotten by the Night Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Secretary Peel.) seutitate► then left the Chair, and the HOLM went into Com mittee, Sir Asexamote Goatee in the Chair. The &Molting sums were then voted. viz. • 414,554 for the Protestant Schools in Ireland for the year 1821. £9,000 for the Assixiation for Disconntenaocing Vice, for the year 1828. • 48,928 for the Roman Catholic Seminary of Maynooth for the year 1828. .625 WO to defray the expense of the Society for the Protection of the Poor for 1828. • ' .632,506 to defray the expense of the Foundling Hospital for the year 1828. .61,500-to defray the expense of the Belfast Academical Irstits tion for 1828. A desultory conversation ensued on this grant, between Mr. 1.. POSTS% Mr. S. Rice, and Mr. Secretary Pau., who declared that the Professors of this College would not in future be rejected on, the ground of their religious opinions, but would be eligible solely on the grounds of capability and good moral conduct.—The Hogue rearmed. Report to-morrow. On the third reading of the County Lunatic Asylum Bill, Sir E. K N ATC H BULL proposed a clause, the effect of which wss to authorise Justices to exonerate tenants of lands in cases of short leases, from one half of the expls:se raised by County Rates for the purposes of building Asylums. Mr. C. WOOD objected to the claw', as tending to relic re one portion of the county at the expense of the other. Mr. Br. , .Nrrr supported the clause, b muse he thought it unfair that persons holding short teases should be subject to these - rate: equally with leaseholders of a longer term. The clause was then brought up, read, and agreed to; passed through a Committee of the whole. House; and, after some obser.:' nations from Lord ALTHOBT, Mr. G04130X and S,',r E.KEATcmtut.c r , wu added to the Bill by way rider.—The Bill was then patted: SMALL DB.IITS taLL. Mr. Secretary PEEL moved toe second reading of the Small Debts sill. The Right Hon. Gentleman said he kid hoped that 'the Bill could have osen passed this . Session, but difficuuics had in:ervened to prevent ; they arose from the ncces.ity of providing for the patent offices in the higher Coatis. Since he moved for leave to bring in the Bill, a commission had issued to inquire into the'sUbject, when it was found - hat gr eat .diffioulties had itisen in respect of the compensation ; which in some cases, if aEordvd, would give certain ; Officer, more and others less, but in effect the pthlic could not be benefited in coitscluence. He therefore' would suggest for • eberx piesetit a PititUtl ConiiThisdion' until the patent offiCelLtwoula be regulated 3r be totally abolished., Ile tberefore &Wald propose a clause to that effect. maiing prOVisten for. flse ousting pitentees, leaving the subject of abolicioa foe futufe consideration. He would . suggest the taking . au account of the fees, csk , then making compensation out of these fees. to purchase out the existing interest of ..he patentee. Tire Anew would then. see that it would be only necessary to puiv,iase a certain Compensation accord in g to the salary. Skr.fpfht NEivPORT fully concurred in all that bad fallen from the Right Hon. G•ntletuan; as, to the inadequacy of any come penSation'etause to meet the wishes of. the public and the present statmof mit finances. ' • Lord A LTHOEF bore testimony to the excellence of the Bill *idle Right Honoera:)te Gentleman (Mr. Peel), and said he would: rampart it. He hoped, however e ehat so necessary a measure wool& not be ostitoned to a late 'period. lUME expressed a: hope that the' would not he post poned to a later period than the ttest Serioa. •i , . Mr. LEN NA RD,objeete4 to that portion of the Bill which gave :gear et rrolgo,ll the Judges of County Courts annually to the - 'The Sill drat Aiwa* a second thee, and ordered to be cam-. Stetted on Frisby MM. • Si[ A..QRANT krought up.the Report of Supply, and several It the Resolutions were agreed to. On the grant for 'Pensions' ben proposed, • • Sir .Y. GRAHAralubjeeted that an °Seer of the name of Brown tentived a military -pension, whilst In the enjoyment of a lucrative dell office. Mr. Ht/ME also objected faith! pension enjoyed by Mr. Lush.' td on, who hadi must estedumentary situation in India. The CHANCELLOR - of-ski ILKCIIEQUER said, that he PSI Sure Mr. laashingtou would take no pension to wh i c h be vale Nog' propel, entitled. - s . The other Resolations were than agreed to. • t Sir H.'HARDlNGlictenotice that on Monday nextbe would mai', the Ordamice.Estittiates iri a• Committee of Supply. ',autos runtimes (scarce) to Mr. H. DRUMMOND moved the 0-der of the Day foe le further consideration of the Salmon fisheries Presentation ' The Bill was then read a third tin.z. . On ;be question that this Bill do pass, M. FERGUSON contended at sense length that the Sabin Illshery in the River Thurso should be exempted Luna the oplutuf4. of tine Bill, and moved a clause to. that effect. Mr, HU SIE seconded the clung:. , Colonel LINDSAY supported the Bill u it originally skid, and - hailed rat would pass that . Hciuse. - The 'LORD 'ADVOCATE said, that if the Eberle, or the Tweed and Solway were exempted from the operation of this Bill, the remise was that the, p•incipal property in those rivers eras English. AU the oilier rivers in Scotland were Included In this Bill,' and he saw no . reftioti why the river Thurso should 112 excluded: He should decided}, oppose the clause—(Cries of Question). After a few weeds from Mr. Home Dammam>, the Gallery was dared •foradlylaion. For die Motion • • • ••• .1$ in For the Ansendinent is. • • Majority ••• s. • , •••76 The BM was then pouted. ~ ALLNORD MISAPPLICATION oe.runctic annum. Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, that lie trusted to the in. dulgence of the House, having . sat in it forty years, in bringing the inoticia . of which he had given notice for— ward. In speaking of the jealousy of chat House with t'n the issuing of public money, he need not refer to the records of parliament in proof of it. That jealousy was icl Well known a characteristic of that Heuse, that he should deem it needless to seek for proofs of it. If we setered this jealousy from the Representatives of the people, we should sap the very foundations of the national independence and welfare. He would not weaken the self-evident truth of this by any argument of his. Sufficient it was for his purpose that the prin *plc was established, from the assertion of which be would not shrink, that that House had a right `to. via:tool the expenditure cf public money, let it cons .. into the hands of the Commissioners of Taxes l in what shape it might—(Hear, hear, hear.) Any violation *of this prinetile by the Government was a violation of the . privileges of that House, and a dere lic;ion from clutys on, the part of Ministers, highly cen sorable—(Hes4 Ile would no loager detain the House with arguments on.tbis plain proposition, which, if any one chose to deny, be was sure would be mkt with but r ope feeling on the part of that House. He would next .peeseed to a statensent of the facts which had given risc to the resolution with which he meant to eon - elude. If those facts established the ease, be thought! there had been 11 gross. violation of the privileges of that route. From papers< before the House, and West facts that bad come :to his knowledge, and which he believed to . be 0104 and he 4411engia l ,lion. Gentleman On the cr.lum side of the House to dist prove them, he meant to shoo; that the Resolution with gelaich he should conclude was correct. All of them, ' csr. at any rate a great number of them, must recollect the unfortunate war which so long distracted Etiiope, And wore out this country. From the conseqUences ffitich followed that war, the country might never re slictiVs and ikyrae from some of them that his . motion close money was to bi'siiiprisprined to defray the expel). erecting and improving Builiingliam Palace, which sr propriation was in direct Contravention of the Act Parliament which bad appropriated other funds for that purpose. The Treasury' Minute further stated that the money was to be paid *heti called for. ' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Rep: 44A blush). Mr. M. A.TAYLOR Well, repaid—but if it had been so repaid, we should neier have had any know ledge of the transaction." . This (the Hon: Gentlenua proceeded to contend) was the largest sum that had bees clandestinely applied since the lievolution. The Coro missioners of Woods and Forests had no power to ac cept of it. No Hdhoutable Member could for 115410 moment attempt to maintain that the framers of toe Bill for the appropriation of the fund in question had ever in view a disposal of the money different.from eat presented by the Act. In order to bring the rustler 'folly before the House. he had moved f or a Rimer .which, when presented, be found imperfect. It wi amended by a statement that there was a pal t of it If• plied to the relief of the starving manufactuter s.—bal at would be found that the money so advanced for the l innet Of the manufacturers had been all repaid Vrbile—although this was the month of June, ifitS' and that two years had elapsed since the other sunislua beensiisappropriated—not a single shilling t fit bl a beets repaid by the Commissioners of Woods and Forel* The sum.of 9.50,0001. had been thus advanced— • OnthelOth &larch, 1126 .• . . . ,ClOO.O OO Oti theitth February, 1827 . . 34 000 On the 25tb Much, 1827 . . . „ sooPos Oa the zOth jou; ler? • . . . 150 0 Pat '6f that to , uer, it would be seen, had bees sk untied while Lord Liverpool was, unfortunately, dig able to attend to business. If this mis•appropriat4 were to be 'permitted, it stight be said to the h Sa to the erection of Waterloo Bridge, that as they veg losing money by their adventure, the Treasury ell ready to advance money for their rebel, and the thi col might 'be multiplied ad injadana. He did not s' that - tools, but in the riOe t 2 A tit-tk e. _of this unfortonate war it was At the Treasury people sere is, . , p ool took tnnil4.o4l4lPacy of the subjects cf Great Britain had case they had acted as if they were — f o r it would ho` 4 strong ejatoyous Mit Go vernment of France, and in the cost them very little trouble to have obtained the save Trpatlisi farictbaisfete, in May, 1814, it was htipu- von of Parliam e n t for an act, which, wanting that air stain that thTFrench Guvernment should assign th • was u njustifiable . In reply to art charge that Ib' ça. griti„ portion of minim the hands of Contraissionim traksertioi kW not been brought Wore Pollnow, 4 wailS terftigeo bad tees peteav a r gtost A el prapotim these *A ,of Charl of :MAI totrutrds Commit Galli of ! that tha fliCatial piriicat ted;* oe pre tfelle .11 recessir, Wks 61 9_ he did to the p of Cond the,elog popular which, friends - I 'censure the Ho Foes ,i baying issue of rat liaa trai y tc mitred meat u sums o was, UI try, jui touldet pecolia of theit no nei ting. VAS A of the positie *ion. 1 4N" Staten Ut *WO *Mt piOf igi by t! foewa movil mufti, of the 'bTetl Site low. Nrs4 lath Ito sit INN 7" aW. put* ;kat Lord in dr of 01 io th