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r % 1 / 4 b - - 4saiitra k ..of hil saw it would be receivedNt he - trroke a saucer, JO al, ding to tie custtlyn,. country; while the affirmation of a Qaiker, appealing solemnly to his GOD, en not admissible. Under these circumstances, he hid ita•ftibt‘ttitit'this class of eviderice would be admitted. In the reign elGeurge therirst,--a.segnlation had been made for admitting the aflirmation of Quakers in civil cases • and since then there has not been a single instance a ddul;edin-whith Quaker has given his affitmation in coppositiclit to the dictates of his conscience it then in civil cases the Quaker swerved not from troth, why should•it be supposed that he would in cr'minal cases anger himself to be led away by the spirit of win trance to violate its sanctity—he who of all men least likely to be swayed by vindictive feelings ? The next point proposed by the Bi:1 was, to admit the evidence of the parties themselves, in cases of forgery, Whose hand-writing had been forged. At present it could not be received, if it could be proved that they were at all interested in the issue; still, by means of " release," a great benefit to the public had been effected: hut in all cases it could not be applied. It was prop, ed, therefore, by the Bill before their Lordships, to admit such evidence in all cases, subject of course to such snspoci• us as might rutach themselves, according •to the degree of interest selych might result to the witness, and of course Out ex. eluding any other testimony which n.ight be offered ; either way. The two remaining clauses were of, minor importance. One was, that the punishment of a felony, when undergone by the felon, should have the same effect as a pardon under the Great Seal. A doubt had arisen, sine' the benefit of Clergy had beets done away, as to whither a felon who had undergone; his putikliment could a competent witness; and. in one instance ti-e Judges thi•ught, that as a person who teadved himself to give evidetice bad-arta 'leen twined in the kind, which was one of the pm: nis.rments Attendant upon benefit of Clergy, he aas incemp tent to be heard as a rawness. H. proposed in m kr the testimony of such Witnesses admissible; the vs ittiess-s thens.elves, of course, 'Were still subject t•. suer, (Arse, editor'. upon. and e l o t s i sisas s. as to their form r crnduct. as it might be deernA kttpe. dierot to put to theit. it it was right to do`this in cases of 1.1 ny, it would of coins, be Irglu. to do it also in the lesser offence of misdemean. • - .41e4i ad now gone Nitrate h the principal alterations propr.sed by these two Bolos, and be had only to observe, that he was not proposing any thing very novel, he was only proceeding by slow de.. reef, watching the progress ot legal proceedings, and mating such sate and istelig hie alterations as these procredines'clearly showed. to be necessary. He sub- ruined them with mote confidence to the House, be cause he had availed . hior.elt of tr e legal assistance of a Noble and Learned Lord (TFtnetden) whom he was, happy to petcetve then in hi place. For the reasons, lie to ad •tati-cl he should then move, that the two Bi!ls be read a second lime, and he should atteiwerds ap p. nit a day for their being cninniitred. After a few words from I ord Timonium, both Bills were read a second time, and ordered to be committed oa Thursday week, fee which day their Lordships are to be summoned. The HOW then adjourned, at HALF Tart SKY= O'CLOCK. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. Portia, from the glee of the Warden of the Cinque Pitts. Returns of the Income and Ropeuditure..Orsierell us t ril el ate a! the table. Sir R. Owens took the oaths and his seat. Lord RBR IN GTON brought up the Report on the Dever Rehoeties+, which elated that Ise*. Teeth, the sating Member. was duly elected, and that the.Petilion against Ws Latino was not Cash. lose or vexations. Lord JAM E 8 STEWART brought up the Rill fie Mak*g and improving the Markets in Swansea.—Need a first and se en d time. 11r. HELY HUTCHINSON presented a Petition from the Inhabitants of Cork, pra)iug that the Hibernian Gunpany Ghoul* be dissolved, and that the Bill now before the House for that per. Om should pass into a law.—Ordered to be laid on the table. :Mr. DEN ISO N•mimed the second 'reading of the Southwark end Surrey Coal Meters' Bill. The Hen. Member gave notice that to this Session, or early in the next, he would ',coyote a measure for tie General Regulations of the Coal Peters. Sir FL HARDINGE presented a Petition from a Gentleman in the neighbourhood of Stockton,lo the comity of Durham, against tie Darlington Hail Road Bal.—Ordered to he laid on the table. Colonel T, LBUT presented a Petition hone Swords% praying for Catholic P.anancipation. gir J. COTT ERE L L presented a Petition front Hereford, pray ing the Repeal of the Malt Tax. A Petition was presented from Lieettsed Victuallers of Here ford against the Retell Beer Act. Mr. H. ALEXANDER presented a Petition front Bsrusseple, preying for the Repeal of the Test and Corpnr ation Laws. Mr. RUSSELL presented a Petition from the /diluters of Sun detland, praying for the Repeal of the Malt Tax. -Mr. J. BROUGHAM presented a Petition from the Dissenters of Clickermouth, end *nether from those of Kendal, pray's& foe the Repeal at the Test and Corporation Acts. Lord NORM ANDY presented a similar Petition from Melton. Ile. %MEW ICH presented a Petition from the Mayor and Ableteeen of Exeter, against the Repeal of the Test Acts. Mr. OTW A Y CAVE prvented a Petition from the Parish of St. Mary, Leicester, praying fur a Repeal sf the Test Laws. He wits aware the: a diterenc Petition bad been lately presented to the Dense—bet it bad been got up piliately, and without the general cutuient of the Parishioners; also a similar Petition from Whetstone Margaret, Isierster. Ille. Alderman WA ITH MAN presented a similar Petition from Tisthridge. deed E. SOMERSET presented a Petition front the Clergy of 1110Letreetitet, ageitiet the Repeal of the Test Laws. Ilk. • presented *veer.* Petitions, nearly twenty in somber, from diterent parts of the totnitry. for Abe Repeal of the Tie Laws. ) —Ordered to he printed. A Petition was presented front the !fakeers of New Sarum. pepping the Repeal of the Malt Tax ti-Ordered to be printed. Mr. hi A RSH ALL presented a Petition front the DiMentefll rat Leeds, playbill for the Repeal of the Test and Corpus-igen Acts. Ordered%tl) he printed. Sir Ts LBTHOKIDGE presented a Petition from the Arch. &atrocity of Bath, praying that no farther emcee*** be granted *the hdered to be printed. Sir JOHN N EV/PORT presented a Petition from the town of TOM* praying for Catholic Emaatipitiones—Ordered to be printed. astrinatithen to tut Poem BKN said. that as a subject of great this night beim* the Wow, be would but would merely ammo fur Mace co repeal of the Acts conferring a bC tile in e t only. ><s he said. now move for leave to be well considered betSrern this time the holidays the Stibjdct could be hilly - Ids Hon. Friend could effect any ins Laws, he would be attempting an Hutu. Whale on the country. samerted with the GaUabt Makilas bet *eked the sweesslty n( its Ming at. 4 Mk best aunt to the Hoe. Member tog in tote bsU. to hider Lett! ptetisely the toetse Id. would move fee leave to bring in the :t it be circulated till about the middle of discussion on tie whole titbits*. • terms nt iteett.ams. • in esturing for lea,* to bring in a Bill that brow& in by the Mom Member for be other evening t observe.l, that be wished base& on the piople ot Scotland relative g PllbMGh.rihea (le *add not titied 4 Merely ask bre kat* to bring In the Pat base it printed and meowed in swam when a General Alerting ot • that prliod t h e regular disessitarri% ts o .--•Lepe WH then /limn. presented a Pehlke; Italia tee Pe nt Vuticester, agnate wry holm soresse, :" a...ol*ra "sob kid se obe obis. 44 from Wieekteter to the rigmaited a Pithiest hem Dlr. POTTRit IWACQUI trispottarute was or cosne on t not eater into aay details. t P I-- bring to a Bill for flat repeat' by thing. He Weald only l' bring In tke Bill ; it eatiki I • , sati4be meet, and after thi dist:owed. .• 'girl. ITORKB amid, if ,'".l prbeibient In the Poor Law hilsi tisk, mad canferritit "a lb Mc .8, SWUM folly 0 to the dillcohy of the task, t I tempted. He woald lend 1 who asked for kkve ti being Mr. BilftHAL litllard t . .. trotted ti be punted. Mr. P. 11ACQUERN w Blll L theo get it printed, let ii .• AP IS, bid theta take the diet 'Atomises I Vt. it DRUAIAR9I D, 1 . , it ' for liootlawd s 'bailer to (lest :, Ostotcf (114 r. Faccoort) the o to rftafor a considerable beat • to the stillest id Ltookaag ' i • odor ions at" iislali f boa NI H as it low wood, then to beet lq before the Sotil of April. wt I'l' ! ' • weight take place. Alter tb. sollfeet wobtd be Idooglst oil. Load /IL 110111141iitT I • Dowsegessio the colony vi i Wow to the Bowan Cetholica A PAULO erasam c d OW IL PARWIML pet 4 Quotes Cooney, in *your of 96dipie linnuicipation.—Ordered to be • • • • ROWlfilt Filpiqed Wi e fr o il Th- &Parish in Northils , ad, pfilying Ow reiball ef A • Clti the Mottos} of MlWAldeltitslitl i', return was sedated', of die number ailments ronlmitted by _tiltrettniiiiasinners d tbi . . ClAtt or Regnant', tit nu tnber i.fedays'ffif riiimedratid the smetant, from January, 1826. to January, 1628. Mr. HUN! Is: Moral for returns of payments made on Stlinps for Insurance from the year 1926 to the present period.—Ordered. Mr. MA II SIIA L L prc*nted li Petition fermi- the' Disarmers of Banisley,•and from the Saptistsvf Halifax, for the repeal of the Test Laws. Mr. WM. SM rrH presented a Similar Petition f,qm the town i of Brickly—which were severally laid an the table, and ordered to be printed. , • • stair re dv WAVER . i tt' ta a' at araotoL I s. Sit 'P. nufwert eished to know horn the Right . Hon. Gentlemen (Mr. Peel) if any thing had as yet been done by the Commissioners appointed to inquire into the supply *and quality of the water 'rube Metropolis ? It was a considerable time since the Commission was ap pointed, end he and the public with him were rather stir- I prised at the delay which had taken placer The dtity of the Commissioners could not be very difficult. The subjetrwas ene of pressing importance, and he therefore wished for some explanation. Mr. Sectelany PEEL said, that a similar question had been put to hith the other night, which he answered at the monient. He then stated, and 'he w Mild now repeat it, that when he returned•to office,' he found Oil CummiNsion had been appointed by his Right Hon. 'Friend (Mr. S. Bout ne) to ihquire into the state of • the supply of 'whet 'and Its 441irbritT, and is ids what bid 'been done'lly him, 'he (Mr."Peet) fully conCtitred.• and in fact wished rather to be governed by what had been. 'previously. done. The Commissioners had, in his view, •artiple powers of inquiry conferred upon them. They 'would inquire as to the amount of the supply, the qua ility of the water. the sources whence it was derived, and they could timber carmine all persons who came bd . . to ilttem • npnn birth. He did not know th:t ,May lager &niers were iencleeed necessary, n r that thii shawl& employ sun,. ynrs on tak level, and other such matters. No such object had been originally Contem •plated by his Right Hnn, predetessnr neither did he Omit 'feel that it was necessary. • ilhe Commissioners were all v ry eminent men, Doctor Roger, Mr. Braude. and Mr. Teifn•cl •f he Commissioners had now been nearly six months siting. nti wishing to know what had been done he (Mi. Peel) niatle tl enecessary in quirk, and was Informed that the analysis was corn spleted, and that the Report 1.1 the Commissioners would be very shOrtly laid before Parlianieta. It, atter read ing the Report, tl C House shnuld think any lager powers necessary, it would be for them to say so ; but he thoU„ht the public should not he put to the expense of empi y ing engineers in taking levels. If a better supply of hater was to be obtained, there was enough of ingenuity, speculation, and capital, to give it to the p.ablic, and he thought it wou'd• be tor any new corn van es wla cur might be established t" take upon them ~cli an especse. At all eseots, he thought. that until he iltiu•e was on possession of the Report, it would be preniatute to take any further steps on the subject. This explanation be had before given, and •was not aware that the Hon. Buonet had n.it before been made acqiiainted with it. Mr. SPURGES BOURNt fully concurred in all that had fallen from his Right Hen. Friend. When the Commission was appointed, he thought the Report' would have been made at a much earlier.period ; but he hoped that no great portion of time would elapse before it would be laid before the House.. Three must emi .cat men mere selected as the Commissioners—an eminent chemist, art eminent physician, aid an engineer. From their i4buttis he anticipated the best intormation on so impottan a stilrje.t. Sir F. ButtuET said, no true could doubt the im pure state ir the water in the Metropolis, and he thought the Government should take up the matter as a national' question. Better sOuices for obtaining goad and pure wa er should be ascertained and put in immediate re quisition. CORN LAWS. !Jr. HUSKISSON gave notice on the part of his Right Hoe. Friend the Pre.ttlent of the Board of Trade, that he wuuldon the Ends inst. bring forward the subject of the Corn Laws. LortiJOHN ItUS3I.LL presented a Petition from the Die. *enters of Lewes, prays's( fur the litptal of the Test and Corpora. tion Laws.—Ordered to be printed. C0f11 . 011,11.710/1 •IID TEST •CTs. On the motion that the WWII': resolve itself Into a Committee on the Corporation and Test Acts, 31r. S. BOU MN F. said, that in the anavoideble ab sence of his Hen. Friend (Sir T. D Aclind), the duty had devolved upon him of moving au instruction to the Committee, relative to the necessity ',l* Dissenters having in.posed upon them some test, or subscribing to Some declaration, previous to their taking any office in the State. He knew that these were many men, even Churchmen, who did not thi..k that a ucrameetal lest WAS the best calculated either to secure the Church, he the fitness of the candidate for any given office, 'in any surety for his loyalty; but others there were w bo thought very differently, and it was with the. view of re-uniting those two hogs anJ res;.ectable classes of pet sons that :.e now plesen ed Infused . to the notice of the House. He had no wish to detain them for More th.n a few moments, for this subject hid before been ably add tempetaiely discussed, and he had no wish to'ptter one syllable which could possibly interrupt the good temper whit!: had hitherto marked the discussion. Hedid tot think the imposition of a sacramental test could be any security to the Protestant Church, and certainly upon bad men it could have no good effect ehatsoever. The profanation of a most 'solemn rite should in every pos. sable case be avoided, and he thought he might be able to ihtroduce a something which would be et real secu ity to the Church. He did Not v'ish to see new oaths multiplied. and it was his opinion that some declara• tern miebt be made which would reconcile the Church-1 men, and not wound the feelings of the Di-senters, Such a declaration as an instruction to the Committee he knew should be cautiously worded. He had written down the' form as at appeared to him most proper, Isubject, of course, to any alteration which the house' might think fit. lettuces follows I, A. B. do solemnly declare and premosnee, that I will sot sae any power which may be vested in Me, by virtue of thesilka 'ain about to hold, fur the purpoinof 4iihratriitis any righti or pri vileges enjoyed be the linked Church dr England and Ireland, or the Presbyterian Kirk of &Nand, is by law established." —He (Mr. S. Bourne) had thus worded the declaration ; and he proposed to introduce into the Noble Lord's sill a speci fi c statement that the United Church of Eng- ' land and Ireland, and the Pfeibyterien Kirk Of Scotland, had been established by the ttiost solemn compacts, in order to impress persons more fully with their import. ante, as component parts of the Constitution. There sees one thing he begged to rematk—oand that was, that the Clergy of the ()hutch had very wisely forbbrne lions coming fbrinitd 'Against the chose lithe Dlisint• tem This Weenie he vhstild not shun to Interpret tit any oilt.:r Manner thin What might be Addy dose, toot tithttiit ettathing th it more finportince thAn'iteils entitled to He titan My it did the Clergy of Igor Chur c h el England ifgdiil lidhdut. Such itithentibte untitled ;hem to phase, And H. WM' at, tort I.6ntd not b* ill wow. The soiraiithrothedvii-rose of considerable importance, and would, he hoped and trusted, be decided for the best interests of the country. -Ile lens a firm supposteAf tbe Church as by law esta. ilsiiiffied, and he would thetefore'lie one of the last alto .."IfoOtofor - any motion which could at all endanger it. itut so far from the present motion tending to injure that Church Establishment, he was con fi dent it would. tend materially to strengthen and consolidate it. The time for imposing tests had nearly passed away—from 'good and loyal men they could - scarcer be- considered necessary. From bad men, or rather tap es•bad men, the could not imee.the slightewinfluence. Besides, the. i . prof anation-of the - Sacrawventil Test *should be no longer pettnitted. On . theie sacral 'grounds, 'and it was only necesilly for him briefly to state them, he begged leave' to move it be an instruction .te the Committee, that a dellatation •to the effect he had already sated shiuld be niedeisyall Disienters, on entering into any civil or military ()See in these kingdoms. To this declaration p preamble might be added, stating the reasofis for im posing such a declaration; but it was only necessary for him toput Abe House in possession arspeedily.ind as briefly askissible of the declare - tied hihad &heady proposed. 'He - again expresied his sincese hope that the friends of - Civil and religious liberty Would consider serionsfy beim* they objected to a ptoposition, Which must eventuallyskure their lendable and praiseworthy object. Lord E A STNOR skid, in 'toting 'on this rotostion the other evening in the itsittoilty,hewas not unacquainted frith the inconsistency Of' the laws,-which requited bo die' of Asti' to approach the Legislature for redtessi . 'He kussik that, the Sacramental Test was often pro. ph:tried—sod tkeiefore it was that he *Wished some de claration 'stioaldhe . eitade by ill:pris -ns accepting office, by which they Wouldasknowledge the just rights 'and privileges of the Church of .England, as sell as her supremacy.. He felt that 'the Established Chutchehould. be securely supported; bit he nevertheless wished to .see all classes of the pea& eligible to office without such a. Test as that which not existed. He had hoped hat his Majesty's Grivernrtient Would halts: broughtinl 't Dill to seireal the eiti;ting Tests,itthAitnting one tit al more pelatable nature in their 'placer but lie 'opposed t:iet they had not yet Isadsime to diiito. flis inostearnestf iwish was, sh t the instruction prooosed„ by .his Night Honourable Friend ( Wt. S. 'Woo ne). "meld be agreed to, and that (bother oppasi ion to , the 'N: stile Lords motion would cease. It oas said th it the Catholic . Question would be bijtojed. hy..shii moesure ; he did not think so—fur ever sincelte Coif a recite in that House he was in favour of that great qUestion;, but even though it did, that o as no a eason why.heahould nut do justice to en thrr aggrieved "and influential body. It was high time that disamlitieV should be tone away. strilh,--(Hear, heat)—and that every man should. be aticiwed to get fors ard in the State—no matters in what wanner he thought pope: to worship his :Divine Maker. He huped the motion now before the House would he agreed to—at ail events, it would have his best suj port. ~ Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that iholoarly in, the; debate he was anxious to stetehis opinion urotthe .. )i cf . question now before the House. His siiigtoel.piqoeik tibn was for a geheral Repeal of the Test LAWS—while sonic few others took it as sabstithting a new oath or. declaration in pl ice of the oaths now obliged to be taken. ' He congratulated the House on the new turn which Oils question had taken ; they bad no longer to contend wills, angry and antiquated theology—they had noneof those . bicketings to encounter which formerly marked the di.cuss on of ques ions similar. to the present; nor had th -y now to conteod,.as often was fiercely and violently contended, that,peisons of different creeds could not, wide, an) eitcomstanoes, be eligible to the highest and . most how arable civil offices in ti.e State. Those times had happily passed away-.-as the aspect of this House must now convince every one who heard him. The declaration noiopropcised he did not consider necessary; for there wis.llo danger against which to guard..-. When the Test psi/a-were enacted, great dangers .did. exist—not so at the present period. No complaiat.wes made of the Protestant Dissenters who had been ad. mi led to (Ace. They *bowed no disposition : to subvert the Institistions of rho Country, and if "pit* call : for* declaration would be Merely to show distrust when no ear i hly reason for it existed. The decjiration-nowprn 7 posed was principally directed to Ate, safety of the . t:hurchi but why the Church rather than the other in stitutions of the country?—(Hear, bear.) Why Fotece the Church rather than Trial by Jury, or the in-de pendence of the Judges? . But it would be no secu rity to the Church ; its best security would be the ad mission of all to civil employments, and the temperance. end good temper of the Church itself. History showed that when any thing like persecution took place, the in crease of the numbers of_the persecuted also generally took place. The case of the Huguenots was one in point ; but Henry the Fourth, by the Edict of Name, restored C IVlratati*e tranquillity ; and the greater families re- Wined to the conntiy. .He did not mean to argue this que-tion—he meant the pi oposed instruction to theCosn anitter, in any other way than on its merits; but in troth lie could not see of what possible utility it could be. All religions bed, in turn, persecuted each other—each had recourse to tests and declarations, and history showed that the result had been the increase of those who were sought to be kept down. The case of the Huguenots he had already teferred to, and many others might be cited, to prove the truth of his position. He said, then, that the best security was that of having no test or de ciao ation at all. With such a show of confidence, such a demonstration of trust, there would be nothing to fear, and they- might safely confide to the Dissenters the execution of any offices in the State. But this asking for security implied a distrust, and led to the suspicion that the Church was not ready to meet those who differed flora it ic a spirit of conciliation. Therefore it was that he could not agree in the proposition of the Right Honourable Gentleman, although he was ready to admit that the words used in his proposed declaration were as hole objectionable as it was possible for any words to be for such a purpose. Yet any words that could be aped, would Its • differently usterpreted turd differently Ondorstood by different individuals, and it was impossible • to say what construction might hereafter be:put upon them. He could not show the force of what he meant better than by reading the last words of Mr. Burke's proposed declaration. He, like the Right Honourable Gentleman, proposed that an oath or declaration should be made as the con dition of holding effice, and it was worded thus :—" I Sill not employ any power or influence that I shall possess as the holder of any corporate office, or any Office under his Maj sty, Isis heirs, and successors, to injdre or subvert the Church." And then it went on r, avote to any Member ofi..Pariian:ein s tfrft y l;;L Ollr'ie my support a different religion front ii E tab !Med Chords. • NOT, it two•candida.es were preseuteL 'to the thbite of a body of electors, every luau knew I 'th' be impossible but tkat..b.-th the D ',enter and ill 4hurthrdan 'Could lean to the tide who was of :ire rant . dpinion with himself. How, therefore,- could Al y MAI .be tailed tioun to swear he would do nothing to .uhsei the Chuteh, when such a baeutal and on oroidebt, tact as dolt :night be so interpreted ? Upon these gee ncl he certainly did entertain a strong opposition to 4 , , accompaniment to the repeal. Bat his oppootii,,, ~, not unconquerable—(Heat).—He objected 0., p ,,, ~,, t to 'declarations of all kinds; Lut he 4' As walling to 1,, 4 what would be said by the House upon the ptonri el of entertaining any measure of that nature ; he did s j4 Irish- to take upon himself to claim Abe.door. of.peu i. (Cheers)—lf the Dissenters could he admitted to tog s privileges by a declaration which would not be rem - rant to their feelings or their consciintionvopirmi t. and if in that admission the Church would he satisfik that there was no danger, he would listen co such , Proposition, with the earnest hope that it would pH, the successful means of a peimanent and final ree. 44 . ciliation. But with the feeling he entertained.. ecos t o not declare 'his assent or dissent, un ii he had hem what was the 'sense of , the House upon a tpiesti,,o , important as this, which mainly affected the tell liberties of the county —(Hear, hear ) Mr. Secretary PEEL-.When ibi, Ciee.tion.came fore the House, I *asked she Noble Lord . 'whethat would give me, on . my:oven put, and that of the H. *timbers who concurred with me, "an opportunity maturely deliberating upon the course it would he 0, fitting for us to pursue, under the altered ciocuns.tanl 1 under which 'the:question had kris ex?oseJ to r view ? I asked toot indulgence for the puipo.e applying the powers of my mind, and my utit.ot tendon, to consider.whether any and what art angemeris could be made; and considering'that a majority of ' House had declared that all out existing laws were not necessary, I asked for that indulgence, deter. mined to apply my mind to see what alteration coot be made—to obtain the consent of those %hose consent was not only of importance, but necessary to its sue cess, and to conciliate those whO Wrl2 most peciilia: brought under our consideration by 'the Nisede Lord, also that other gleafinterest Attached to the religi' n the State. That delay I 'asked for on these gown, and it was with a degier of injustice that I never could hive expicred, that I heard it imputed to me by a • oar Noble Lord, teat my s moteves for asking it wore i would hive honest motives—(Cheers)--but that I asked for it ere f•ill , o. toe ,qrcic4. (heti - Might have an Opportunity of raising • B. do solemnly kitten's and (*Mining an oppa : iti 'n to it.—(Hear, he, masienee, tonic *MO *Pima! to -the 'l4 •bleLl_bido-I appeal to the Hal , to aititte-ow 4whetber sdah' an imputhton can attach to me: the United Kittt deprive it.of a (Ctters.) It is quiteimpossible that any thing that pas eatabisaiked." tot that occasion could have affected my iiew of allowing is question, or abated my anxious desire fo affecting ti i noposed by 'arrangement of it %Web it is most desit able shuukt be it [talker east ,concluded. In the course of the discussi,oss that ht appoitatetto - oS taken place since the first introdoction orthe question A in the presence the Noble Lord (J. Rtiseil), vat tout propositions h, we nude Sc, any of ha it toruser em been submitted to the consideration of the House by c gein +a Borough 4 heretic lion. Members; and, %all the pet mission of 'the' oa k a ac i a liti o n bo u r n r• House I shall . proceed to enumerate them. The List Ors' omit to awake it, his deco sideration %as of course, with us, adheie..ce v. the ea.! As to the panics' isting law. We defended it as it stood, because it doesoist , hichadmission shot • ,• entail upon she Dissentets any practical grievaece.• •It claratiort. I confess I is . ttite that they are required to take th- sairementel tioguisti betwe. n rho, (eat but we thought that objection co theesistini,law .. Mate toe decloation had:almost entirely faded away in the Caroling of tie ' .11) iiinter • may he a Annual Indemnity 'Act. I, from the tiist, said to the sirakiiigit. B •t, gen 1 Noble Lord, that nothing was more uuoise, nothing Meet the difficulty b) more impolitic, than to giie rise to animosity, and to enacted that the King religious animosity, by perseverance n useless resistance cons taking civil (Act to that which seemed the sense of the House, which de declaration Onder re l 4 dared that the existing law ought to be altered, and that be arranged in the C whatever might have been. my own opinion, the seen the Right Hots. 6entl of the House having been declared, I should not have whatever piit I nave expressed it (my own) in opposition to it; with the risk first inteticluctioe, mid of generating feeliags which ought not to be called ince . original - motion if t action. Ido think that the sense of the House has bees , Koine most sinceiel expressed, when it was declared that the existing law llyisti it-after the del ought to be alteted—(Cheers). In the debate on the ' as under4one, and first night, a proposition was thrown out by the Hon. aired in its revolt:- Member for Devonshire (Sir T. D. Arland). one which Lord in a sincere :d! was , at,first considered reasonable even by th ose w h o sitifeas'in'thii . very iii voted in the majority, namely, that the sacramental test (Load ehreling). is Should be suspended, and that an annual declaration " this proposition, so re should be madein its stead. I was taunted with thecoeo, from*, advocates o daft i.putaued on that occasion, and I new feel uvular. ~, cannot be expected tt . satisfaction that I' did not then declare my opinion.Q.fie ; . others 1.. but II this PI the effect of the consideration . I hive since_ given so the Its onse,t confidence subject been, to induce me to change my opinion re. . . betton Parliatn,nt sh spectiog the propositionof the H on . M em b er f or D evon . satisfactory adjustmei shirei.and to adopt the argument Of another Honour.• lam sure that if that able Member, that the suspension of the law would not these clauses in his li cure the conscientious scruples felt by the'Dissentert s success in this Hr use and that it was not right that a permanent law shculd plete satisfaction to recognise the necessity for taking the test as a cleali4• thino o in my power cation. The proposed suspension of that Act would be But here I beg the I - : liable to this objection, that it would be a fresh recor this proceeding we a< nation of the declaration that the taking of the • ea . era- mitigated by the Ant mental test was a necessary qualification for office.;:for: to for thethe sae it certainly would be an implied recognition . o f th e ne cessity for the Act. A third proposition wa s m ad e by my Right Honourable Friend who was lately officially • , a tPo ciP op e n lsidb office to th igee giving us a pledge is connected with the Colonial Department Mr..Wilmot.. Chula. if the i Horton), namely, that there should not be a llPPell'i'A say that he is liable of the Test Act; but that a specific term for its dura- frosts the existing lav tion should be pronou n ced—th a t i s , th at i t s h ou ld ' which is calculated 1 .• cease in five or ten years. I think that an objec- 4 a dignified conscious tionable mode, for it would resu l t th at we Should . , t he will promise not tt have fire or ten years of useless expressions of imps. Ann hilt. to the injor: tience, discontent, complaints, and irritation—(Hear)— : , Noble Lord opposite so that, in fact, at the end of that period, we should w sipeal of these laws, arrive at the termination of the Act under circumstances . think the Noble LorS more unfavourable than the present. Moreover, I should - irnlxilic7 of •Fsactin say, if the period is ever* to arise, it is better that we A oterica, indeed,whe , should enjoy the pace of making the con cess ion Our. -b) the la ,such an salves, than leaven to our successors. Such were these the experience of e plans; two others remain t o be d es c r ibed—the one, shown us, that religii experience c the that of the Noble Lord, which asks for simple and ue• an d qualified repeal; the other, that of my Right HO'. country the necessit Friend, with a.proposition for repeal by a substitute for the security of our the sacramental test, requiring that parties about to oligaition of the Ct take office should take or say something for the security Constitution, has b of the established Church. After the best consideration meat. tad recorded that I could give to the subject, it spree" to me that sholic claims—in th • that plan which promises to secure a final Arrange- for the t e asov a l o f t h went of the question is that which ought to be adopted. of the Roman Cathii And whatever may be the abstract principle of the acknowledged that Noble Lord, lam quite convinced that he will ago,: blushed permanent!; with me, that the surest course to follow is that which would tend to prom leads to final arrangement—to an y arrangement o f t h e strengthen our freel subject, by both bran c h es o f t h e Legislature—an ar• if the civil and milli . iangement which should re s p ect t h e f ee li ngs o f the Lis Majesty's R :man Dissenters, and y e t em b o d y t h at cons i deration for t h e removed." It has k t i t o h + i ea acknowledgeßrutishsh e s L a i b, n l : roar t h h i . . e u 1 safety of the Established Church which the Legislature shall deem requisite—(Cheering). The Noble Lord . necessary, as Mr. U ttsa heart tits.: tel House l,rou b d h. would do me and his Majesty's Government great in. • justice it he were to suppose that we have not given to .he subject all the attention which its importance en- Establ.shes el Church ales it to.. What does my Right Honourable r!rind's motion propose? That it shall be an instruc• ; layed by t h e h ee d s ion to the Com mi t tee to attach an instruction to the jell—that i s , t o attac h t o i t ether a declaration, or .4,1 question, a n d t h e ca tiligation on o a th, to be t a ken by those p ers o ns who toe justic e and w i sd an to now teg.iirtd to take the Sacramental Test. Now, inecessar y fo r me , the. m, in to def en d i .am d ptepare in the Ct , mwittee (it the tiouse viall se- s.re that reel y Hon olite itself into a Committee) to propose to that Con,- t,; lilli;ii, that the c glitter a decimation to be take% b 7 such persons-_ ( Ile t) • by bstabitalaral Chin •'d have ahead,' had discussions upon the pant, whet's+ it arooKi shoal.? he- tnAes:ii ought to tie ton reci i iiiiider Atiefireti Dissenter -, roertidirg tet the Masi "those 'hem j r ,diThs H .an !icy ofthe Cht other,' that 'DO which his or neuters the conscientio declaration i of the Bill. , in prefereol declaration o • secure the beyond it. I 1• 1 -(Chrers).* ty with the a ay arising fr, I ant now ti tffifmation. pone at pres reetions wik (Cs ies he House eh. ,n,rnittee, I at le i mug pt : u t the Sill in by M'. 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