Star. — London, England, 1828-04-23 00:00:00

w hi c h that House, the Commons of &lima, ought to depart from a plan which it had sanctioned—(Hear,) Without coin); into detail, he objected to the resolutions on principle hr knew that many were of opinion that, a filed duty would be better than a varying one, but w h a tever nsight be his opinion upon that point, be wou ld not then express them, as the House had declared ha w u nfavourable to the plan of a fixed duty. But it had also declared, that one of the great objects of auy mo w ought to be to prevent fluctuation, and in that respect the present resolutions were notoriously and pal pable defective—(Hear.) He had so much respect for som e of the Members of the Government, that he re greeted being comrelied to declare the measure now pr oposed a disingenuous one. It was very true that i t afforded greater protection to the agriculturist at a certain 'ince; but that price wits one which vat not likely to be attained. The fault of the 13,11 was this, it gave protection where it was not v oted, and withheld it where it was required. It gave Protection to high prices, but none to low ones.--(Hear.) _Looking at the two Bills, that of last year was a straight forward satislactory measure, while the present vas meant to captivate on the one side by low prices, end on the other by high, prices, and, in reality, was calculated to produce injurious consequences. He should the' cline support the motion of his Honourable Friend (Mr. Robinson). The Bill which had been itt troduced by Mr. Cinning had been carried by accla mation—(Cries of No, no.)—At all events by a great ma j orit y, And was calculated to meet, as tar as possible. , the views and wishes of all parties. He hoped his Hon. Friend, the Member for Dorsetshire, would not be ad verse to making such concessions as the Bill of last yearwould require from bias, and that he would sup p o rt it cordially. Sir E. RNATCHBULL had heard to-night, for the first time, of the supposed concession of ti e Right H..sn. Gentlemen to their colleagues in office ; as well as of the uippcsed changes for the sake of conciliating the other House of Parliament. Mr. STANLEY interposed, and observed that Mr: C. Grant h4d avowed both when.he brought forward i bis Resolutions. Sir E. KNATCHBULL added, that if the fact were so, he petlec.ly coincided in the censures bestowed upon such a course by the Honourable lkilensber. He denied that the Resolutions of last year had been carried by acclamation, and reminded the House that the Amend , it of th.e Member for Dorsetshire had been supported nearly 170 Members. But for an extraordinary and nnatural coalition, ;he majority would probably have been against thi proposition of Mr. Canning. Out 01 doersal , o, opinion was against the measure. Mr. FERWJSON could not give the Resolutions of Ministers Its entire approbatii n, fiat thought that the picot point was properly chosen, and that the ascending and descending stales were duly regulated. He recom• mended that the averages should be settled lay an attenii lion to the price of gi ant* in the three kingdoms. *Secretary PEEL objectiatl.to the continuance of thisdisaission, because he crntld wit see what useful end it.cOuld aoseer--(Fleat).' Why th. en la Gentlemen object with such pertinacity to.timkSkiker'.‘ '•eaving the Chair ? The resolutions which had been propused,by the Hon. Members lot Br idgenoithisad for Afiellieen had not yet been reported to the Honslt t ind the only.place in which they could he proprised . Vils the Committee. The single ground on which the Han. Member opposite obj .cied to the Speaker's leav ing• the Chair was, that he intended to propose for the acceptance of the llouse the res.. 'minus which it approved last year. Now, besidts hose tesolintoas, there were others, which Hun. Gentle ..en severally.thought deservinikof considerate°. . Why hen. shoula they not go at once into the Committee, and , ohmic tom to .. c regular and• saitsfac tot y discussion ? He really coidd tint see how they were so fixedly bound by what had been done last year,at least in the seiise in which some Honourable Members seemed to think.. And as to what they had done last year respecting the ave. rages, Mel/ it .could not be said that they had made a determination which was to he urrakesable under every change of circumstances. He knew than, abstractedly speakikgot was wrong to raise any speculation upon the eventual opini in of the oilier House .of= Parliament ; it was so, undoubtedly, as to a question of privilege, sebetethe two hi anchesol the legislature might be said to Milne a jealous and imiependent control.; but - the case was different whewtheyeame to consider a measure in volving the general rights and interests of the. country, and where undoubtedly an adherence to the:aeparate opinions expresigd by each.wostld induce one branch to adhere to the price of •6Q'. and the other to cling to the opialon which ithad alleadydeclared. It wasright, hisemer, to r. concik in meccas of-business conflicting opinion k when it could be done with•conststonen and this practical course had been followed on the present I occasion, when a measure was introduced which, under all the circuinatances of theicase, be thought was per fectly for lot cl patties.. the chief recommendation of 1. , t year's nreasuie wits, that it regulated a limited sspply, and operated upon 600,000 qnattere of corn Meil . iti the warehouses. The experinient had so tar occeeded, and he had ito doubt that in the progress of present scale, general satisiaetion would- equally ark its effect upon the community , at large. When • 1 looked;at the votes of last year upon this subject. ad at all the attendant circumstances, he could not see he slightest inconsistency in the measure now submit- Led to Parliament. Time bitter way to have a fair un demanding upon the subject would be c to go into the Committee ; it Was past eleven o'clock, and no farther time Ought to be lost in considering the real 'Omits of the case, . . d ALTHORY tad no wiskto iispe4 the* pro-, igiess into the Committee, where he knew the diseOtsiOn, upon the clauses could more cooveniendr take. place. . the same time, this prelimina r y discussion had not been uncles', and it clearly showed him that the Bill of la▪ st year was preferable to the present. The scale of the former was to affix high duties when 'the pr,4o. Of. Can s as low; but the present iraricd.entlithr 4 0 .1 11 Sit principle; for when the price was low the duty was to be e educpl, and to b e ra i se d when it was Islet. Whew l pri ce was l ow, t h en where was the protection ? In this tense, last year's Bill was, he thought, decidedly Piefttable„ Mr. PORTMAN did not consider this as a political cluellion, but felt merely as an agriculturist, that some 511anation was necessary. He congratulated himself 1114 he had brought on the discussion. Mr. EAS I'HOPg inquired how this Bill could be ,Thrd c onc l us i ve, w h en t h e Ri g h t H on. G entleman proposed the Resolutions, insinuated nat th e attempt was an experiment to compromise the IlresPective interests of landlord and tenant? ...MT. C. GRANT h a d never s aid tha t th e L eg i s l ature gu st to tern, prize nn this subject. They wished, on the contrary, to make a permanent arrangement, as fat. the ias . 1 ._opinions aid interests ci the parties enabled them " PrOSeed. soAfter a few words from Mr. tiro-Hoose resolved k u'ta a Commi ttee upon tlso regiectitis that:to Laws.—On the quesden beingpethy the Cisatasese upon Mr. C. Grant's Seale et Dudes, Mr. HEATHCOTE rose and said, that as it was his anxious Wish to see the proposed scale lowered, he wished the Committee to report progress, and come to the debate at an earlier hour of the evening—it was now near midnight. Mr. HUSKISSON thought, that after the prelimi nary discussion which had taken place, and the three weeks' notice already given, the bulk of the Committee were prepared to discuss the question without further delay, though the Hon. Member might not be in a simi lar condition. So serious a subject ought therefore to be proceeded upon without further loss of time. Mr. HEATHCOTE admitted the subject to be se rious, but when he looked at the clock, he did not think the House could reasonably entertain it with the deli beration which it required.—(Cry of is Go on.") Mr. HOBHOUSE really thought, that before they went on, the Government were bound to show how they could reconcile the present measure with that which Mr. Canning had last year introduced. Mr. CALCRAFT was ready to go into the discussion, even though the hour was so late: at the same time he must regret the. way in which they had spent three or four hours of the earlier part of the evening. He thought it was incumbent upon the Government to explain why. they had departed from their resolutions of the last year. For his own part, he was quite ready to confess, that it did not follow, because at one time one thing was done, it ought to be repeated at another; still an explanation was due, and ought not to be withheld. For the purpose of bringing the.two scales of duty into fair and full con sideration, he would introduce, in the shape of an amend ment to the present motion, the rates fined in the pro ceeding of- last year. The Hon. Member then moved 'AS an amendment the adoption of Mr. Canning's scale of resolutions of the last year: Mr. ROBINSON seconded the motion, and quoted a passage from Mr. Canning's speech of last year, to show how completely Lord Liverpool was identified ' with the Corn Bill of last year. Mr. BENETT certainly preferred the Bill of last year to the present. It was founded on sounder princi ples, and gave protection where it was wanted. He had prepared certain Resolutions, as an amendment of the Bill of last year, from which, !madam., they did not ,gteatly differ. He should nut move them then, while the motion of the H .n. Member for Wareham was pending. He was convinced that the new Resolutions we're g.-nerally unpopular,and that they deserved to be so. Sir 6. PHILLIPS asked, when the It.ght Hon. Gen tleman (Mr. Huskisson) meant to explain the. reasons for the change of Ministers' opinions. Mr. fl ()SKIS - SON said, his Majesty's Ministers were placed in a difficult situ ation. An Hun. Member had moved to report progress, since when several Hon. (:Members had explained their views, and the Hon. Mem ber for Watchful proposed an amendment. It was, tine der those cif cu mstances, the duty of those who supported the Resolutions to wait until the 'objections had been made ;. but he was not unwilling to explain the nature of the Itesolutions,al aiserexplanation really was necessary. Sixty. shillings last year was the price considered neces• sary for the pr... - tectidu *of the corn grower,. and the question was, whether that was a su ffi cient protection? 'he present proposition was that it should descend or 'ascend, 64 shilling being the niarinime: They alwaya 'contended tr , at sixty shilings was an effici.-14 protee non, with such duties as would make that protection adequate. The question then below the House was, not whether they had charged their protection, but whether th,•:protection of 4ast year was adequate? They acre to took to what had occurred sincelast year; they had t and the protection inistequ'ate. The bonded coo. admitted io one mouth amountea to no less than 500,000 quarters. Lt. 'o, it was clear three-was not sufficient pros• (action. That . was'the ground on which he would stand. The measure of 1-st year a as never conside. ed perms: neat, hut especial:trial. The woods of a Right Hon. Friend within these walls were--'s It is niy earnest wish that one of the first acts of the next Session may be the reconsideration - of the Resolutions of this House, and then we shall hive the experience of the present Session." It was a temporary measure, and considered as such. T se principle of Lotd Live, vet, and that of his late Right Flom Friend was this:—that up to 60 shillings these shouldlt e a protection to the corn I: . row er from 56 to 65 shillings... Had there been between SO and 65. shillings such a. check as to prevent ' foreign corn from coming in large quantities for home' 'tonsumption? No less than 500,000 quarters were in ;the warehouses of this country. It then became a 'question whether they should .Dot give further proteca tson, and it was found that at 58 shillings, the duty n alr 'proposed, would have prevented the importation of all that foreign coin to which he had .alluded. The object was to afford protection up,to 60 . shillangs, and when the price t‘ as above 55 shilliegs, to encourage the im portation of Foreign . Corn. The Right Hon. Secretary considered the Resolutions submitted to the House Per fectly justified by the circumstances of the country, and the protection required by agriculture. • Mr. STANLEY did not understand how his Right 'Hon. Friend applied his facts to the case before the House. fle(Mr.Stanley) had said he preferred a fluctuating duty, ,but as he found it impracticable, he resorted to a fixed one, as he considered it better than that laid down in the Bill of last year. He bad said the Bill was disinge nuous in this sense, that it held out a promise to the eat which- it did not to the mind. For instance, it pronsised high prices mike agricultus iste; though it could not give 'them. He was puzzled to find thie how the cases quoted. iy. his Right Hossourable Friend applied to the point last ' ear. By the Bill of last year 2s. were imposed when e price was descending. and by this year's only Is. e Right Honourable Gentleman had said. that the ili apiohibitory duty appeasing as the price sunk was lower by Is. than in laat. year's Bill ; but the duty on the ascend fog price w is lower by 21. Now he (Mr. Stanley) did trot know what. was the object of Ministers in•this euoggement• . Ma. HUSRISSON eiplained. The principle of both the Bdlnol last year was the same; the sum of protec. tides Waulfeed at six r shillings osten the price Was above ,it, the admissioa of lereigecorn was allowed, and when the prim passed siatp-four shillings, greater facilities were gives to importation. Mr. A. BARING said, he doubted much whether this measure wouldfulfil the intentions which Ministers proposed. to theitualves. It did not appear to him that the Right Heisoarable Gentleman (Mr. Huskisson) had answered the objections of his Honattrable , Ftiends On that side of the Houses Ihe4lnwAir• of the It'flbt 11 °a fentlemao was, that AlZS.tbe49ty now proposed war a virtual prohibiliuP & t ip "ha (Mr, Miring) doubted. very much. Corn, like ether articles, would frequently be imported at a loss, because it was in a great measure' a gambling trade, not like others in which the profiti were, in a great degree. U 4 and certain. The trader in corn would take his change for high prices when a. I)ad harvest occurred. which, on calculation, was every 0401 year. In that ;sent he obtained very 'high prices, and could sisal agord to laic la or 291. pee cent. fiat as throe pleading pats, like a sinsigglaw, whom one successful voyage in. duet was eufficient to remu nerate fully. The Right - Henourahie Gentleman (Mr. Huskisson) said, that at 651. the.objec,t °Cate Govern ment was to give increased facility for insportation. He could not see hpw the present mesiurst • Maid 110. that object, for at 655. it imposed a duty of 201,4134 sh measure of last year at 6.51. laid on a duty of mar It gave, thetefore, no additional facilities of a supply over the measure of last year; but quite the contrary. He wished to consult the interests of all parties, and with that view he thought the Bill of last year a more equit able adjustment than the Regulations now proposed. They had heard much about the prices at which corn might be grown on the Continent, and much valuable in- formation on that point was said to have been obtained before the Committee of the other House of Parliament. He could see no use in sending persons on the Conii nent to collect information as to the prices at which corn could be grown. No accurate information on the point could be obtained even with respect to coin grown at their own doors. The price at which it was brought into the market was not conclusive as to the price for which it could be grown. The measute. while it exposed the agriculturists to odium, did not give ef fectual protection where they wanted it, and gave too much where it was not required. The House must re ' coll,ct that an alteration had been made in the way of taking the averages. He did not, however, know pre cisely what bearing that alteration had on the price. On the whole, he preferred the measure of last year. He was friendly to a principle of protection, even to the full extent to which the necessity of it could be made out by fair argument. If protection was carried too far, the agriculturists themselves must be ultimately the. sufferers. Mr. Secretary HUSKISSON said a few words in explanation. • Sir G. PHILLIPS r ose amidst loud cries of “ question ° and "go on." The Hon. Batonet espressed his belief that the explanation of the Right Hon. Secretary for, the Colonies, with reference to the deviation from Mr., Canning's Bill of last year, had not given satisfaction to any Gentleman in the House. He contended, that by looking at the population returns, and comparing the 'lumber of those engaged in agricultural pursuits with that of other classes who were differently em ployed, it would be found that they had sacrificed two thirds of the population to benefit the landed interest. This system he conceived to be most objectionable, and it was attempted to be carried to a greater extent than formerly by this measure. He could not concohle, from airy thing which had fallen from the Right Hon. Secie tary, a hat reasons had caused him to alter his mind, and depart from the scale of duties of last year. The Hon. Baronet then entered into a calculation to show, that • when wheat was 50s. a quarter at Dantzic,which would be about the price there v•hen it was 655. here, it "could not he imported, including 12s. per quarter for freight, and 215.8 d. duty according to the present scale,•under 83s. Bd. per quarter, which he contended, was equiva lent to a prohibition. The great difficulties of the corn merce of the country had been Owing to false principles of trade, and, the Right Hon. Gentleman hid himself shown this to be the case. He had 'moreover shots rt. that the far mei s on the Continent had adopted the same et toneous theory ; and if this conntry iteted on just and liberal principles, they would have not the leis influence on the Continent.—(Tbe cry of qurstiop, question," now became bud). Mr. PORTA' AN observed, that looking at the re• turns he held in his hand, be had no he,itation in saying that the additional 'Um of 4s. was required over the scale of last year. If any Hon. Member moved an amendment to reduce the scale h;gher than 6(h. he *mild support him. The 'image now became clamorous fur strangers to withdraw and a divkion accordingly took place on Mr. Calcraft's amendment Fur the Amendment . . . . 58 Agalwit it Majority in favour of the Resolutions -- 144 The Resolutions were then agreed to. The alai:man reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again on Fliday neat. The other Orders of the Day were then dispoeed of, and the House adjourned at a Qu A to Two O'CLOCK till Thursday. THE kIVENING STAR. LON DON. WEDNESDAY, APRIL ?S. 1828, ST. Gemmel' 41111%.-1400 BISTII DAT KISI*4IISII,a&T am Tux Smarr. STOCK RXCIIANG TWRLYg o:plageL WE have no arrivals this morning of the lesit lenportance. Theis was a re-action at the opening of the Consol market this morning. Consols, • which left off yesterday at 85i for •the Account. opened at 85 to I, and immediately receded to 84g. The cause of this de cline is not as yet known. but it may be attributed to realiiing on the prizes of yesterday. Consols may be quoted at present. S 4 to 11S. Up to the present hour we have no further itemisation front the Eau. In the Foreign market the prices remain nominal, with nothing doing. FOREIGN FUNDS, TWO O'Cl o prlL: - Wish 8,1 4 . 3 pCt. RUM Ilds.lll22,sperCt. sal Do. Ace. 59j Do. Acct. MO 31ez.nds,1825,6pCt Spanish Ms Sp Ct 11j Do Acct 53j Do. Acit. Portog. lids. S p C. Fr. Rents, 5 p C.102f Do Acct. 60j j Exchange, sbf 25e BRITISH AND FOREIGN SllA It ICS, TWO O'CLOCK. rain. SO 74 • 100 22$ 400 400 144 12 550 544 24 Bolivar Colombian Real del Monte SO 31 Provincial Bank of Ireland 100 95 Phenix Gas In the House of Commons, last night, Mr. CHARLES ~aAsT's Motion for going into a Committee on the Corn Laws was carried by a majority of 144. The Re. solutions were opposed by Mr. CAECRATT, Mr. BARING, and Mr. STANLEY, the I.ite Under• Secretary for the Colonies. It is certainly to be regretted that a measure which, according to Mr. GRANT himself, is not to be approved of abstractedly, but to be considered tempo rary in reference to public opinion, should be substituted for the more reasonable scale of Mr. CANNING), out of apprehension of the decision of the House of Lords. We have in vain sought for a reason for changing the pivot, as it is called, from sixty shillings to sizty.four Xiliings; and with regard to the duties to be imposed before the price has reached the pivot,they seem rather to attach odium to the Agricultural Interest, by offering them protection when they cannot want it. Thereon. not be a stronger proof of the futility of the fears of Ithose who still dread large importations, than the fact of the prise' at Dantzic, in 1827, being 225. Sd. 'the quarter, which, with 10s. charges and 80s. duty, Angtunts of course to a prohibition. The same is . the case with the corn of Hambargh, of St. retessburgb, and dßotterdant, and indeed, of any port of Europe. The public may however congratulate themselves at the candiskadmissions of Ministers, that the Bill is not the best in itself, btiethe best that tee,be ihrou3M both Houses. A Committee has been named, on the motion of Mr. WARIMRTON, to inquire into the meant of procuring subjects for the students of. anatomy it' this country,. There are great difficulties of feeling and prejadiee on this subject 'td' be overcome; but it in deemed bad polity to drive medical students abroad foe the information necessary for their profession, and to carry the respect for the dead to such an extent, as bids fair to have a dangerous effect on the health and pee• nervation of the living. In the House of Lords, the Life Annuities Repeal Bill, agreeably to the recommendation of the Finance Committee, was read a second time, on the motion of the Duke of WIELLINOTfIN. This being Saint George's Day, and that on which the Anniversary of the KING'S Birth is celebrated, Lb/ morning was•ushered in with the ringing of bells, which continued at intervals through the day. At noon the Park and lowa guns were fired, and throughout London and Westminster there was every demonstra.. tion of joy on the occasion. At St. James's Palace, neat to the fond hope of seeing his MainTi, the Drawing Room held•there was the grand object of attraction. Thither the Nobility and Gentry hastened, with a splendour that has not been witnessed for many years. Great animation also prevailed throughout the West-end Of the town; and the Parks, St. James's-street, and the principal promenades, were densely crowded. The Guard of Honour was furnished by the Grenadier and the Third Regiments of Guards, and marched at 11 o'clock into the Courtyards of the Palace, with their Bands in full State dress. The Life Guards furnished the cavalry Guard of Honour, and their patrols in the S:. James's Park. The police were steamed at all the avenues, under the direction of Sir R. 13stinte, and the chief officers of Bow•street, to prevent the confusion occasioned by the pre►sure of so great a crowd. The ave nues leading to the State apartments were lined by the • Yeomen of the Guard in full costume, end . thes!inspany were conducted, as they arrived, to the aeti•rooma by the Equerries, the LORD CHAMBERLAIN, and the Royal Pages in waiting. ills MAJBSTY has been at the Palace since last week, and we are happy to say enjoys.excellent, health. The Princes and Princ sees of the Blood Royal, tie, Ambassadors, Ministers, -Ste. having the entre, passed to the Palace through the Parks, and were received by a Detachment of Guards. The other portion of the company entered from Pall-mill. _ _ _ About two o'clock, the company commenced being set down from their carriages, and presented a grand and pleasing sight, from the varied . elegance of their costumes The crowd was amazingly great. All the Churches of the metropolis hoisted the Royal Standard. Colonel CLITHsaoz epmmended the guard of honour. The Paris Papers of Monday inform us that the report of the passage of the Danube by the Russians wants confirmation; and, indeed, in the complicated state of affairs in the East, the greater part of the ' tumours of this kind ate to be received with dis trust. We heir no more of the alleged. Declaration of Neutrality by the Allied Powers, in case. of the advances of Russia. It is not, however, an event so improbable as the limes seems to think . it. If Russia iseisisto in her hostile dispositions, on grounds which the Allies cannot admit to be within the scope of the Treaty of London, they may easily find reasons foe non interference. We have some cause to believe an inclination of this, kind exists *the Capinet; though: we cannot suppose fur a moment it can init.:fete with the necessary decision that must shortly bevelled for, upon the_ protracted difficulties made by the' POUTS. • The Austrian Observer oi the 12th inst. received this Morning, contains the following article, under the beast of Frankfort, Ilth " The prices of the public securities of different States, negociahie on oar. Exchange, have been rising for some' shy:. The accounts, however, which private letters bring us, from the principal parts of the political. world, do not ifford much hope that the long • talked of passage of the Pruth by the Russian Army, will not take place; but in the eye. of matt) , of our monied men, this probable event does not threaten suck serious consequences as others visa. bend from it. The battle of Navaiin, say they, has not produced a war ; how much less likely then is , it to be the result of the preliminary occupation of sane' provinces, which are entirely destitute of troops to op. pose the occupation of them." The Algerneine Zeitung to the 17th instant has also been received. It contains the heads of a Treaty of ' Navigation and Commerce between the Emperors of, AUSTRIA and BRAZIL, signed at Vienna in Jvne last. Want of room prevents us from inserting the article t to.day.., VIENNA, Aran. 10. Metalliques SS S.Stbs—sank Shares 1006 S.tOths. Arsu. 11-..Metalliques SS 11.16ths—Hack Shares ICO4 is The Duke of CUMBERLAND, accompanied by his sill Prince Gamma, left his apartments in the King's Palace, Sr. James's, yesterday morning, in one of his MAI trry's carriages, sink • • proceeded to the resilience of the Princess AUGUST*, to inquire offer the health of her Royal Highness. The Duke from thence pro ceeded to the Admiralty, sod visited the Duke and Duck s * o f CLaaraiss; from the Admiralty the Duke proceeded to Oimmetter House, Park-lane, where Prince Groans remained to brealfast • with his Royal relations, the Duke and Duchess of Otriumwsza, while the Royal Duke paid a visit to the Nati of Raw" at his yes sideoce in Hamilton-pbce. The Duke, accompanisd by the Prince, afterwards proceeded to the King's Palace, at Kensington, and paid visits respectively to thelluchess of Karr, the Duke of Suesait, and the Princess Somata, at their apartments in the Palms. In thy evening his Royal Highness dined with bb tinier. Lose ON TUZSDAY, 15th inst. Three ridini of the pro. Posed Building for the New Infant School, sad Schad . of Industry, at Brighton, by WILD the dacn,tvaor.l. The said Plans were given to a man who desired to look at them, and called himself a Reporter from • Moralgfc Paper, but no web man can be found, tbougb is well known; they were given hits.during the eiall&•.-. cities actin &kith and Foreign School, by Mr.-loam MoRTLoCL. A Wiwi, of Fs. z Goma** will.bo 84'4 to *biota will bring the= to 2500 filaloawieet.