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indeed, that is a confideraticgt which I have not felt that it was necelTary for me to be much in balk to weigh in my mind. Without doubt, Sir, this mea fure has not relieved the c.•onties from the prefTure of the recruiting fervice. This fervice does prefs on the counties; bui what meafure that does not orris ? Nay, what meafure, I mean what meafure of this mature, or even wh:.t defcription foever, does ' trot mere fo? However, I do not fay that it trill anfwer ; but, as far as the refult of the opera- tions of three months is a c:iteriin of the probable utility of'the meafure, I cannot help thinking that we have ttrong reafon to believe that time will perfeel it to the full, In far as it is either capable of perfenion, or as it was affumed that it would become nerfeet. For one, I do not hefitate in laying that it has an fwered, and will anfwer. " The Hon. Gentleman has fuppofed that my Right Hon. Frietrd (Mr. Canning) admitted on a former night, that as a military meafure, this urea lure has completely f a il e d. My Ri g ht on. Friend admitted no Inch thins ; he Paid no filch thing ; he meant no fuch thing; the truth is, the Hon. Gentle , man has forgotten the arguments which my Right Hon. Friend ufed, and anfwered arguments which he ' did not ufe. This was the moll convenient way for .the Hon. Gentleman. The Hon. Gentleman, relying on a mind rich in Rot e s of gen i us , an d poffefling at once a various and creative imagination, defpifes the vulgar methods of reading and reflection, is quite above (haring its knowledge with the dull herd of the men of invelligation and enquiry in this world, and by the force of his wit, to which he diaubtlefs trufts more than to his eloquence, hopes to over power the reafon of the Britifh Parliament, and mil lead the clear, flrong, good fenfe of the Britift; people. s—Looking at the force which we have gained by this meafure, I will fay, that, even fuppofing the erpence more unfavourable, it never would be a conclufive argument againft us. I will take care, that it than not be (aid that I am too fanguine. I do not over rate the produaive capacity of the meafure. I on ly fay, that it will be an ufeful auxiliary, as already it has proved; and whether this happen in one way or in another, the final benefit which will have accrued, mug guide the judgments of fober minds. —As to the queltion, how far the tneafure will be ufeful f I will not, however, enter into any detailed view ; yet can any man fay, that the meafure will not fulfil the principal great end of its adoption ? —The Honourable Gentleman fuppofes, that it will not do any thing for us during the prefent war. I know not where he has Rumbled on this immature, crude, and molt unwarrantable opinion. He fags, that the meafure will fo far not anfwer, at that it will not add to our permanent force during the war, at leaft fo I underßood him. Suppofing that the Bill had hitherto anfwered no purpofe, which he denied; but fuppofing it, fir argument fake, and admitting it was brought forward as allitmed by the Hon. Gen tleman, a mutate for the rapid extenfion of our Mi litary force, it then did not follow that it ought not to be tried, for the fpecimen afforded by the tall three months juftified an expeaation that it would have that effea • but he denied that he ever pledged himfelf it woul d a rapid effect in increafing our Military Force ;he broug ht it forward as a permanent 'fyftem to recruit our mi litary Itrength ; but the Hon. Gentleman had treated the argument, as if he (Mr. Pitt) had difapproved of the Army of Referve Bill; inftead of which be was one of its warmeß fuppor.ers. l He thought it railed a force of near 40,0c0 men, at a crifis, when perhaps no other means would have produced them fo loon ' - but having produced them, and the bounty created by the competition between that and the Supplementary Militia having become fo high, it became an object to recruit the army in fu ture by means of (mailer bounties ; that effea bad al ready been produced. The frequency of defertion, the attendant on-high bounties, was another evil al ready in a great meafure diminiffied by this Bill. The Honourable Gentleman had Paid he had promifed So,ooo men to be railed in the courfe of the prefent year. Now, if that Honourable Gentleman would confent to do, what it was to be wifhed be had done before he (poke, namely, to read the Bill which he withed to repeal, he would find, that what be expea ed to be done in one year, was to be the operation of the Bill in five, fix, or (even years ; and that the. aug mentation was to be in proportion to the number of men enlifling out of the Militia into the Line, ant! in proportion as the Militia might otherwife diminifb. Mr. Pitt then proceeded to (hew that the great (A ka of railing a difpofable force had not failed, as the Hon. Gentleman had Rated. He Paid that fince the Bill began to operate, the Force which was li mited in its fervice had changed and become unli. suited, was It le (tort of 3c,000 ; that is, there was fo much added to the really difpofable Force of the country. Here he went over items, by which this calculation was juftified, and which, indeed, might be expeaed to procure 26,000 in addition to the difpofable Force within the year, out of that which is at prefect confined to a limited fervice ; and there. fore he fubmitted to the Houle that it was cer tainly worth while to confider a little before they agreed or confented to repeal loch a Bill, which was only one of the objeas of the Honourable Gen tleman. But there was another objeCt which would fatisfy that Hon. Gentleman much better than the repeal of this Bill, which was the charge againft Ad • miniftration. He had Rated what the Bill had al ready dune; what he believed it would do ; but here again he mull be underßond to Rate only what he believed as a probable event, not any thing for which he pledged himfelf. He had not pledged himfelf it would have the rapid effca the Hon. Gentleman had Rated. He was perhaps more fanguine in his ex patations of its progrefs than had turned out to be the Ga ; but the eaufes of its impediment had been removed ; and now he wiffied the meafure to have a fair trial ; the calculation was, that in a year by the men which would be railed under it, and the facility it would afford to the old mode of recruiting, it would produce an addition of 36,000 men, within the year me the difpofable Military Force of this country.— The Right Hon. Gentleman then proceeded to combat the allegation, that our naval force was in fufficient ; but he detained the Houle but a Short time on that fubjea, as be deemed it totally foreign to the queltion at iffue. Whatever he had formerly laid, as to the condu& of the former Admiralty, he till perfealy adhered to, by his obfervations having been confirmed Since he came into office. He was quite prepared to fupport hisopinion on that fuhjeet, when :ever it wee nee/diary to eater upon it, but he would, not be forced to enter upon Each dircuMons at the -pleafure of any Hon. Gentleman who might think prover to throw nut fuch examinations. Whatever be might have thought of the Noble Lord lately at the nf the Admiralty when in office, he did not th;ni: it ”Pceffary to enter upon on the prefent occa (kn. Ile had no vindidive objeft in view, and leaft of all had he any thing to alledge againß one whole former fervices to his country could not be diminifli ed by any inadequacy to the naval deportment of the country. He had little reafon to doubt that every thing was in advance during the prefent naval ad miniltration, and it would be found to on a compa rifon of the different (hips in commit Eon at different periods, With regard to the diaribution of our naval force, it would be found to have varied according to the feafons ' • and he was certain it was to be found that the fyllem of blockade in the Northern Seas was highly advifeable. It would, however, be end lets to enter into difcullions of all the topics touch ed on by the Honourable Member in the courfe of his fpeech ; for though that Hon. Member feldom troubled the Houfe whip fpeeches, yet, when be did fo, he generally thought it neceffary to pay off all ar rears whatever repartee, bon met, or witticifm, he(Mr. Sheridan) had, during his courfe of Parliamentary at:. tendance carried home with him and flept upon ; hatever he had found fault with himfelf for not' bringing forward fooner ; in fhort, all the argument, paflion, and invedive, all the bold and hardy affert tions came out altogether, without bearing any rela: tion to the fubjetl in queßion. He (Mr. Pitt) would recommend to the Houfe to • separate the two gaud. tions which had occurred, viz. the repeal of this Defence Ad, and the injurious afperfions or feelingt of a Minifter, whom there were certainly other means bf getting quit of, if it was thought fit. Although that Honourable Gentleman teemed to have formed a very unfavourable opinion of him, yet he (Mr. Pitt) had the advantage of setting one compliment from him in the courfe of his invedives, but he did hippo& that he (Mr. Pitt) had at one time Rood high in the public estimation. It was only from the cir cumftances of iBot that he thought him unfit for public affairs. There was not one violent expref lion, charge, or epithet, which he (Mr. Sheridan) did not apply to him, during the whole courfe of the feventeen years in which he fuppofed him en titled to a (hare of the public confidence. He thought therefore, that the Honourable Gentleman's judgment was fomewhat impeached in this particular, when he had nine-tenths of the country diametrically differing from him. The Hon. Gentleman teemed to fuppofe that there was fomething very unfortunate in the pre fent Adminiftration, not merely bemire it confined of him (Mr. Pitt), but becaufe it confilled of other perfons. Thole who argued upon the grounds of for= mer differences, lives, and habits, ridiculed all funda• mental agreement. The Hon. Gentleman had Rated, that he had a very high opinion of the Noble Lord at the head of his Moiety's Privy Council, and to take merit from the degree of liberality with which he treated him. He believed that Gentleman had fup ported the Noble Lord in (sot a very few particulars. The Noble Lord who was Secretary of State for the Foreign Department, had been Rated by the Hon. Member as having been excluded or cafhiered, oa ac count of his having been appointed to the Home De partment. As to that Noble Lord, he could fafely aver, that it was his Lordfhip's own arrangement and exprefs defire, that he fhould be fo appointed. Such'in finuations :hen were in no degree applicable to hi sLord (hip. There never was a period when he (Mr. Pitt) had differed from that Noble Lord, that his private opinion and perfonal 'confideration of him was at all decreafed. • He had, perhaps, now fail more than Was neceffary, in aafwer to any thing worthy of no tice ; but he could not help laying a few words as to the appeal made to the Country Gentlemen of that Houfe, with regard to the feverity of this meafure, fu as to induce them to vote againit it. He did be lieve there eaifted, as independent a let of charac ters, aetuated by public zeal and ardour to fupport his Majefty with their.lives and fortunes, as ever ex. ifted an any period of our hißory. Thefe Gentle. men were to remember too, that the fiet and para mount daty was to preferve the country, and all the comforts of its inhabitants ; that greater exertions were to be ufed, according to the exertions of the enemy. The time in which we lived, and the critic in which we were called upon to contend was one in which it was neceffary to make ourfelvel more a military people than was neceffary, or even porn ble, even in the days of our predeceffors.—He difclaimed the Bill as a pecuniary aid, but till it was proved by trial to have completely failed, he would contend that the facrifice was one which', we were bound to endure. There were oci,ooo men railed in England, exclufive of cafualties. The bounties were paid out of the public money, fo that this could not be deemed a pecuniary burden on any particular let of individuals. Was it intended; if' this Aft was repealed, to give up all claims frn• the penalties both in it and the Army' of Referve - Aft It was impoffible to difpenfe with them 'altogether. The fines incurred br the former were done away by the latter one. which was a mach 'more le- nient one. It would be grofs injuftice and abfurdity to repeal the fines laid on in both Bills, and fo far from favouring his (Mr. Sheridan's) argument, rather tends againft it. On all thefe grounds, therefore, he fhould vote againft the motion. Mr. WINDHAM Paid, he thought the Right Ho nourable Gentleman needed not to accufe the Ho nourable Member (Mr. Sheridan), of having devi• aced from the queftion, as he (Mr. Pitt) himfelf bad , often done fo. Inconfißency was not to be inferred merely from the circumftance of people differing in opinion at one time, and agreeing.together at others. There could-be no repoolibility attachable to him, becaufe he had formerly approved of the Provincial Cavalry : he might have changed his mind fence that time, either by longer reflation, or longer ex perience. What was the Right Honourable Gentle. man doing, but pralifing at this day what he for merly would not liflen to? Was he not pradifing that very reduition of the Militia, which he formerly would not hear of ? He did not condemn him 'for this, but he only condemned him for condemning others for what he did formerly himfelf. How was any man ever to get wife if he confidered himfelf to be bound to udhere to his former errors, or to the er rors of his former Adminiaration ? The Bill was highly objcaionable in every point of view. It gave rife to a kind of improper influence amongft parifb officers. In other words, it produced him men by very im proper Means. There were no means which trade ' with officers better than other men, that did not mate the recruits the more improper. An inftaace of oppreffion had to his knowledge lately occurred, which furnifhed him with an inikance of what he al luded to. A parcel of kith bricklayers labourers had met on a Sunday evening, (the only day they could fpare) on purpofe to indulge in the innocent a mufement of dancing, and other feftivity, when the Magif trates interfered, and affaulted them with the whole band of Contlables and Officers, who all of them ex creifed a vexatious fpirit of authority. Many of thefe individuals were taken to prifon, and left all night therein, for the purpofe of the Megiftrates felettLig, according to their difcretion, thofe whom they al ledged could give no account of themfelves, having neither money nor friends, and fending them on board of the tender. Such were the fcenes that were acting Under one own e7e, without the leanredrefs. Was not this a fpecimen of what we might expect under this par& bill ?' Many of the recruits contain• ed in the lifts on the table were, he believed, procured in the fame manner, by the affiflance of pariffi crimps. There was no doubt whatever that the BM had completely failed, having only raifed 2000 to , wards the number of 80,000, originally intended.— This forely was convincing proof that it was not cal enlaced to produCe any immediate and beneficial d rat. This bill, notwithaanding the gigantic promifes made by the Right Honourable Gentleman, failed in I every refpee, every thing, in fact, had been done to prevent the augmentation of the regular force ; the army of referee was at &II intended to feed the army, and this afthad been pallid to fupply the confump tion of the army of referee ; but neither the one nor the othet anfwered the objeea for which they were in tended. Yet, it was contended on the oppofite fide, that what the bill had effeeed was conclufive evidence of the fticcers which would attend its continuance ;and it was urged, therefore, that further time inould be allowed to try and afeettain its operation. This re minded him of quack medicines, which, though often deftrutlive, yet were vended and puffed off as rove reign remedies for difeafes which they had brought on and produced the death of the credulous patient; but, lays the Right Hon. Gentleman, give this Bill a long day to try its benefit a little longer; he could not fee any reafon; however, for yielding to their defire, un lefs it was thought the Spring might revive the mea lure, and infufe into it additional health and vigour. Such improvement could not, in his opinion, be ex peeed, from what was in the laft Rage of confump tion, and on the very verge of diffolution. The De fence Bill had not even the advantage which the meafure of the Army of Referve could boat ; it had not the ftiinulus of balloting, which, though its good was more than counterbalanced by the high bounties ii had created, yet there was a ftitnulus which made it fuperior to the prefent fyltem • 'but there meafures and thefe confequences had utter ly deftroyed recruit ing for the regular force, and fhould, of courft, be abrogated. His ftrongeft objection was, that they were procured in a way which interfered with the fupply of the Regular Army, in confequence of which that fpecies of force would be ultimately reduced, and wholly deftroyed. If any one meant to burlefque the army, and the means of increafing it, he would have chofen thisfyftem of recruiting by parifh o ffi ce rs , ( a Irms4) though it was almoft impoffible to refrain from laughing at fo abortive and abfurd a meafure ; yet, if perfevered in, he apprehended that it would prove lamentable in its effects. He was confident it could only luxuriate in the prolific underftanding of the Right Honourable Gentleman, whole iitufory plans brought to his recollection the ideas of fome writers on modern gardening. They confidered not the nature of the foil, or its fitnefs for cultivation ; their whole object was to make„it look well in perfpedive, or fuit it for a picture. Such was the cafe with the Right Hort. Geademan, who feemed 'to difregard fubftantial meafures, and to be only folicitous to Make his fpeeches look well in Parliament ; the ob vious confequence was, that we had brilliant fp.eches, but very bad meafures. In every point of view, this Parifh Bill mull be confidered oppreffive in the at tempt to execute it, and after every effort, would prove unavailing and impracticable. This was an opinion confirmed by every gentleman who came from the country, and had fees the meafure tried. Our fituation would be alarming indeed; if we were Rill to rely for military aid, and a conftant fupply, to the force of the country, on a meafure which, rer durcu, in the emergency of the moment, we could not even require to continue. Under all thefe cit.- cumftances, be trailed the Houfe would concur in the repeal of the AIL General NORTON thought, that it was better to adhere to the Defence Bill, which had railed fome men, than repeal it when no other meafure was pro poled as a fubftitute. Mr. LANGHAM &mild vote againft the Bill ; but if it was continued, he hoped Come attention would be made in the mode of affeffing, which be confidered partial and oppreffive. Colonel STEWART gave a qualified fupport to the Bill, and fubmitted a new plan, at the fame time, to the confideration of the Houfe; but the milli ' which prevailed while the Hon. Member continued to (peak, rendered him perfectly inaudible. Mr. WHITBREAD role merely to notice a re mark or two of the Right Honourable Gentleman's oppofite, which had efeaped his Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Windham). He then proceeded to exa mine the provi fi ons of the Bill, one of which was, that the firft quota of itS or rB,OOO men, timid be railed agaiuft the 1R of October, 1804; yet fo in capable was the Bill of performing what was intended by it, with every explanation it could receive, and every affiftance the framers of it could give, nothing under it could be doni; and Minifters at hall took on themfelves to (*end its operation on the 15th of November, being fix weeks after the period, when, according to the ftipulations in the Bill, the firft number of 18000 men ought to have been completed. Having fo long furpended the operation of the Aft, it was fomewhat remarkable that Minifters had lately iffued proclamations for en forcing the double penalties. The numbers to be railed by the Bill acrainft October 1805, were moon men. The Right Hon. Gentleman faid the Bill &Gold not be given up. Then what remained, but that the deficiency of nearly 16,000 for the laft year, and shooo for the year 1805, muff be railed within the period from this day to October next. If the Right Hon. Gentleman was warranted in holding Out Inch a threat to the parithes, and drat too, under the Fence of double pen +hies, he stinfl be allowed to fay that his condue, and that of his colleagues in Office, had been highly reprehenfible in not entorc icg,the Aff during the whole period it ought to have gone on. He then proceeded to take a view of tiro other force of the Country, and conclt•ded by declar ing his hearty concurrence to the motion. Mr. BRAGGE BATHURST defended the principle of the Bill at confiderable length, and de clared, that if he was out of Adminiftration, he would do fo likewife. At the fame time he did not think it right that Gentlemen, when aCting under particular circumßances, mould be asked to pledge their honour as to the courfe which they were likely to purfue under different eircumaance. Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON obfcrved, that not one argument that had been urged by his Honourable Friend had yet been anfwered. There fore, as he felt the full force of the arguments in favour of die motion, he felt himfelf bound to give it his fupport. Mr. TIERNEY allured the Houle, that from what he had heard that night, and flora what palled v. ithirt his daily obfervation, he had reafon to be Rill mere and more fatisfied with the late Adminißration. he had heard an Honourable Gentleman °Verve on a former night, the fyflem of railing men under the Defence 4a was objationable upon conElitutional grounds, namely, that it decreafed the Militia at the fame time that it increafed the !landing Army. This could not be done away, with by any experiment or trial ; and there was not any meafure of the late Adminiftration that was liable to a fimilar oblation. But the meafure to which the motion referred was Titoß particularly unjuff, as it faid in effed, " we. know that men cannot be obtained for lefs than 151. and yet we will fine you aol. if you do not procure them for rol." Mr. FOX laid, he should avoid molt of the topics that had been adverted to by others. He could not fee-how the Kele!, t Admini ftration had been harraffiat by litigious and vexations oapelition, as Rated by the Honourable Gentleruan who faoke laft. To ioppoic the Adminiftratlon, before it had been died, would certainly have dcferved thcfe epithets; but he did not think that an oppofitiots to it, after it had been proved, and found inefficient, merited that reproach. lie tax were propofed and eftimated at two millions; and if it only produced one hundred thoufan2, furely it would not thew a. litigious difpofition to find fault with it. ' It had been (tilted, that he (Mr. Fox) had gone out of the Hoak upon a former occalion (Mr. Windham's late motion), in is" pery ill humour. He was conscious that the obfervation was well founded ; but he recolledted perfedly well, that upon his return, he certainly had not fo much rearms to be fadafied as a fimilar occafion laft year. when he had more than 100 members of the Houle along with him. 'lt had been urged upon a former occaficin (Mr. Windham's motion) as an argument againft going into a Committee, that though the Rate of the army was net improved, that of the navy had increafed l in ftrength; but, for his part, he could not fee any great increafe lin the latter. The preferred propoied to raise Lifson men by Oc tober laR in the firft inftat.ce and pOOO more fabfequent to that time. Having promifed to rake 18,coo men, certainly, ,f we coa -1 rider the danger that threatened the country; they ought to have been forthcoming within the Rated time, and the ref might have followed of eourit. So far, however, from that being the cafe. it appeased that only 1581 men were railed in fifteen weeks in lEngland, Ireland, 'and Scotland,and of thefe rat, only 640 were railed between the 15th of September and 6th November, but (up ' poring, for the fake of argument, that thefe 1581 were al! relied In England within fifteen weeks, that would cot be a jollification of the Bill, for the quellion was not about 'too or too ran a week ; it would require tight hundred and silty Men a.t:eek t ea make good the undertaking: The refult, therefore, was nothing lefs than abfolute failure on the part of the Mintfters ; and yet ha was to be told that an attempt to repeal a rneafurethus defedive was litigious and vexatious oppofition. An 'Hon Gentleman, formerly a Member of that Houle (Viscount Sidmouth), but now a Noble Lord at the head of his Majefty's Council, bad, on the bringing in of this sin, advifed that it fhould be poftponed until the enfulog Seffion, and to afeenain the fenfe of the country reissuing; it, in the interval. He eonfeffed, he had not .approved cf that advice, as the Bill prornifol immediate benefit and affiftance. It was fomewhat ftrange, however, that now, when it has been tried and found inefficient, the very fame Gentleman fhould fay it ~.ught not to be repealed. It bad unqueftinnably failed as to man it bad not proved more productive as to money, tor, affuredly, :t never could have been the intention of Govertuncorto make it operate as a tax. The fine could have only been laid on for the purpofe of fright ' ening the parifh officers to role the men required ; . for, certainly, i; could never have been in contemplation to levy fo unjuft a rat, o: in any one inflame to enforce this monftrousfyftem of opprefflor..' 1: had been alto urged in anfwer tc the ohjadion, of no incre.ife in the army by the prefent Bill; that the infantry, generally cc;fidered, were not increa fed ,yet that a larger portion ;fit had become difpole able. That, he allowed, was of fume service when it was urged as a matter of triumph to the prefent Miniftry, he did not ti.ink it of filch mighty confequence, nor did he even confider it as the produce of the prefent Bill. He certainly had wiled for the reborn of the Right Honourable:Gentleman (Mr. Pitt) to office in pre ference to thofe who preceded hint. But as himfelf and his friends bad affifted the Right Honourable Gentleman to return to place. he thought they had Tome right to call upon him for Come more vigorous meafurea than thole which he had hitherto adopted. We might boaß of the vigorous Minifter, whom we had recommend ed to h r i t s ct lY d l e lefty,contrafted with the weak. and imbecile Mini ter who p him ; but he did not think, that even partiality itself could lay, that this rizezfure was the offspring of a great a.nd vigo • roue mind. Vikotun CASTLEREAGH entered into an arithraet:nl efti mate, in refutation of the arguments of Mr. Fox. Mr. JOHNSTONE attempted to anfwer the'arguments of Vll count Caftkrcagh—but a call for the queltion from every part of the Houle, accou.panicd with a violent coughing, obliged him to fit down. Lord CASTLEREAGH and Mr. JouxsTONr feverally explained. Mr. SHERIDAN made an able reply, and the Houfe having divided, there appeared br Mr. Shedd:as motion—Aws Nora 267—Majority agattilt 140. Adjcuioca tlAs morning at half-paii thrcc o'clock. LONDO N. THURSDAY, MARCH 7. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK: Confols, for moncy, 58f—for April, 58if—Onini1m'37, 4. Mr. SHERIDAN'S Motion for the Repeal of the Additional Force Bill was laft night fubmitted to the confideration of the Houfe of Commons. As is produced a very warm and a very interellingDeb,a( we have given as full a detail of the DifculEon as t: limits of our Paper would admit. 1 Two Gottenburgh Mails, and Hamburgh Papas of the I 3tli and I sth irft. arrived this day. Letters from Madrid, of the 24th of January, Late that feveral privateers have put to fea cruize againfi the Engin. Several fmall have been lent to Majorca and Minorca with troops and ammunition. About 3030 people were c.trried off at Alicant by the late fever. The Negroes at St. Domingo have fitted out abnitt fifty gun boats and force other craft to cruize ag.tic,a the Spaniards. They venture fifteen or twenty miks from the fhore, and have taken feveral prizes. LONDON: Printed and publithed by LEVEL SENT, Hof Can• terbury-place,Latabeda), at the STAR Orrice, No. z, Czr•y• • ttrab rubillbal alto at tot: STAR OfriCg h Tanetlitin indeed, that is a confideration which that it was necelTary for me to be mu weigh in my mind. Without doubt, fore has not relieved the c.•,.nties Cr,, of the recruiting fervice. This fervic, the counties; bui what mea fore that Nay, what meafure, I mean what r mature, or even wh:•t defcription not more fo ? However, I do n trill anfwer ; but, as far as the refult Lions of three months is a c: iteriin n utility of'the meafure, I cannot help tl have firong reafon to believe that tim to the full, In far as it is either capabl or as it was Aimed that it would For one, I do not hefitate in laying I [veered, and will anfwer. The Hon. Gentleman has Sup Right Hon. Fiietrd (Mr. Canning) former night, that as a military mea fare has completely failed. My Rig? admitted no fitch thing ; he Paid no meant no fuch thing; the truth is, tit man has forgotten the arguments w Hon. Friend ufed, and anfwered argir did not ufe. This was the moll cons .the Hon. Gentleman. The Hon. Gen on a mind rich in floret of genius, ar once a various and creative imaginati, vulgar methods of reading and refl, above (haring its knowledge with th the men of invefligation and enquir and by the force of his wit, to whit trolls more than to his eloquence, • power the reafon of the Britifh Parlia lead the clear, flrong, good fenfe of th. ....Looking at the force which we have meafure, I will fay, that, even fuppufi more unfavourable, it never would 6 argument againft us. I wiU take ca not be Paid that I am too fanguine. rate the productive capacity of the ri ly fay, that it will be an ufeful suxili it has proved; and whether this I way or in another, the final benefit v accrued, mull guide the judgments e —As to the queltion, how far the • be ufeful f I will not, however, enter it view ; yet can any man fay, that ti not fulfil the principal great end o —The Honourable Gentleman fui will not do any thing for us during tl I know not where he has Rumbled on crude, and molt unwarrantable opin that the meafure will In far not and will not add to our permanent force e at leaft fo I underftood him. Suppofil had hitherto anfwered no purpofe, wh but fuppofing it, fir argument fake, a was brought forward as aimed by tleman, a meafure for the rapid exten litary force, it then did not follow th to be tried, for the Specimen afford three months juflified an expedation have that effed • but he denied that h himfelf it woul d have a rapid effect in Military Force ;he broug ht it for ward 'fyftem to recruit our mi litary Itrength Gentleman had treated the argument Pitt) had difapproved of the Army o inftead of which be was one of its wart He thought it railed a force of near 4 a crifis, when perhaps no other meal produced them fo loon - but having and the bounty created by the comp that and the Supplementary Militia ha high, it became an ohjett to recruit t tore by means of Smaller bounties ; th; ready been produced. The frequent the attendant on•high bounties, was ready in a great meafure diminithed b) Honourable Gentleman had Paid he go,ooo men to be railed in the courfe year. Now, if that Honourable Ger content to do, what it was to be wifhec before he (poke, namely, to read the withed to repeal, he would find, that v ed to be done in one year, was to be tl the Bill in five, fix, or feven years ; anc imentation was to be in proportion to men enlifling out of the Militia into th proportion as the Militia might ()the' Mr. Pitt then proceeded to (hew that jeel of railing a difpofable force had the Hon. Gentleman had Rated. He the Bill began to operate, the Force inked in its fervice had changed and naked, was it le fLort of 3c,000 ; tha fo much added to the really difpofable country. Here he went over items, calculation was juflified, and which, i be expeded to procure 26,000 in al difpofable Force within the year, out is at prefect confined to a limited fervi fore he Submitted to the Houle tha tainly worth while to confider a litt agreed or confented to repeal fuch was only one of the objeas of the Ho demist,. But there was another objedl • Satisfy that Hon. Gentleman much be repeal of this Bill, which was the char' . aniniaration. He had Rated what tl ready dune; what he believed it wool: again he mull be underflood to Rate believed as a probable event, not any t he pledged himfclf. He had not pled would have the rapid effelft the Hon. ( Rated. He was perhaps more fangt pedations of its progrefs than had tur the Ga ; but the eaufes of its impedin removed ; and now he wifhed the mea fair trial ; the calculation was, that it wen which would be railed under it, • it would afford to the old mode of recru produce an addition of 36,000 men, v o the difpofable Military Force of tl The Right Hon. Gentleman then combat the alleghtion, that our naval fufficient ; but he detained the Houle b on that fubjea, as be deemed it totall) queftion at iffue. Whatever he had as to the condo& of the former Adrr pettedly adhered to, by his obfervatim confirmed Since he came into office. prepared to Support hisopinion on that ibirer it wee occeffary to eater upon it,