Star. — London, England, 1824-02-28 00:00:00

• , e * • S I - the Perition4Wattl: Surely he ought at take... Care to see that; all the allegations groeoiled, • and supported -by testimony of ehinteter. The ..Hosioutable and * Iswernbil .idelitillea ''lrfattelt tab Ckaely , feelings of. the PetitirieeicandTo hate iciepteed, due e xamination and -caution, ,iho.-charges. • - • Honourable and f i carried +hefted. • Thr ,;unistrates had d r ine•more'ittititetti lionotinable and Learned 'Gentleman had *done to Niagistsates. They at least took the precatition of ostainingis etatementnithe case from the Secretary of sratesOffice, and had looked into the evidence with the • clan-Inspection.. Another.of the . Magistrates, Pe," had desired him to.deClare to the Hoese,. I most anxious totake his-share ih whatever • tatteich to the conduct•of the' 'Chairman •of SiSioni. ',There was not a void of 'the'. Which:this Gentleman did not-concur. The' Oswald Mosley was another pledge of the' and )ustice of the conduct pursued by the , llagistiates, than Whom there could not be a inright and conscientious man. . Had there.beeies Int measure of justice dealt out to Mr. Charles that:Which was visited upon his five accoat• were sten in the lowest walks of life— shoe .ailars, and .cordwainers—there wdeld• have , crease for complaint. He opposed the br . the Petition. IRGES•BOURNE could not consent to al -1 Petition to be brought up.' His objection was the Honourable and Learned Member alleged, attributable to the corruption of the Magis the Petition did allege corruption,„ as thef and Learned Gentleman did, then this was proper tribunal for the appeal. The Court of , Iltinch was 'the Court to 'which the Pdtitioner t-'ive taken his complaint. The gravamen of was not against the summary nature and ar- Conduct of the jurisdiction, but against the indH dury-a matter upon which the Refuse could itself into a tribunal of appeal, because the con .would be the most extreme inconvenience. 'JME warned the House against shutting its Petitioners. His Honourable and Learned . offered that the allegations should be esta ipon oath, not-merely of the Petitioner himself,- other patties, His Honourable and Learned therefore been hardly treated in the ebser the Gentlemen opposite, by the endeavour to Kith the complaint of grievances in the Pe readily listened to and credited the state- Attorney-General, as far as regarded the . the Chairman of the Sessions; especially when tpported- by -the • testimony of so many other Gentlemen aeound him. if the Petition fight up, therefore, in the present state of facts, - House would be bbisnd, in fairness, -to op stieStihn which could not, however, be de . the petition 'he proper,. course, would. be -to alio** his Hon. and Lsarned withdraw the Petition, -tiil the allegations :otitirtned Open Oath, and then alto's , / him to ' gain. --71" N0...fr0,* the Afinisterial Ben 'es). IN WROTTESLEY hid signed the resolu- Magistrates passed in approbation of the con : Chairnfan, and ceihturred in everything ad-; the Attorney-General upon the same subject. sowever, made ooereservatioo, which had not strictly • observed— namely, that the resolution be directly poblished. His reason for for present publieation was, that the conduct forth} , and excellent friend, the Chairman, had zed in one of the public journals in a manner would not stigmatize with any particular epi stesent,,bec*use-it was likely to become the sub idicial decision---he would only say that the at , such atiato perion of honour-and sound feeling piss unnoticed, or without calling for ision'ofst.Coort of Justice upon his conduet. He • accede to Withdrawing the Petition, becauSe ct ial the Magistrates, which he thought un impeachable, Was concerned ciao deeply in the discussion;, ' assetted, without fear of contradiction,Ahat in all therelcould not be' a set of mote meritorious aces than those of.the county of 'Stafford. WILSON wondered at the-proposition of the Mintier for Sarfey—that the' House ought not to the Petition, if true, for fear that other blagi should-lit' attacked 'in 'Sante distant.•tinte 'with .. 6 es:of Malversation, whci were neither °raters nor dietoficians: the Attoniej-GeneratoPpoSed the bring the Petition, because he watipreparea to'denf the ions. He (Sir. It. Wilson) knew nothing of the• , and wished to learn its contents by hearing it That was 'the right-of the people of Ehilindr , would not-allow this atiernik to subvert it Wide bppOsing it, and demanding,' thatigh he *Stood, alone, theik shonld be access to the Ffildse foitheii Petitions. 0. WYNN:was .coUriint i ed -that 'this Pe.iticin not to be receiveit.' . It:' teas the tints- of every tier to be prepirtof to 'total:Air ate contents of. a before presenthig it teithe tkuse.:(L,pud cries ),no"). Honourable' Members had 'no right to ipt him in addressing - the. Chair: and he called for iroteetion by enforcing the General Order. 'He con ' that no individual Member had a right to pre . Petition to the Haase Without pledgin himself • contents of the Petition—(d€ No, no, no' )—that it rained nothing disrespectfUl to the House- . --(fienr, When Honourable' Membets were disposed to that kind of cOntradittion to his observations, iglit, at least, to take care to hear all that he had it would he a much more safe and judicious Ile expatiated on the general danger and in sience of allowing appeals from the jurisdictions. :ounty to the House, and opon this principle op ale bringing up:of the Petition. 1111fGHT contended that before the House re-- • this Petition theyought to hear it. The prayer"of 'utition, as he understood, was for the repeal of an ;we law, and as such it ought to be received. Secretary CANNING . wished* to know if the !rabic and Learned Gentleman was inclined to v.. the Petition? DENNIAN said, he understood that there was an lernber who would oppose its being withdrawn. Secretary CANNING said, he should then state, this Petition prayed fur that which the House Al not do, namely, to re-try a case, he should oppose being brought up. `r. Secretary PEEL thought, as no question had )ut on this Petition, the Honourable Member withdraw it. S. WORTLEY trusted his Honourable Friend, id opposed the Petition itt the first instance, - would saw his opposition, the Petition might then be ht up, and no further proceedings be had:upon.ik H. SUMNER was at a loss how he could arcade., . . !to the'cotirse nowepeoposel, %much as he coniidefed !this Petition as ap oetrager on the right of petitioning. . The CHANCELLOIt of the EXCHEQUER thought that the Petition sho'uta be - allo‘Ved-to be teithdrairn, and not put ihe'floirse to the necessity Of rejecting, it. I Me. DENMAN - denied tlias he had offered any'diii nioneitheras to tree Unwed facts or the motives of tine petitioner. it wars enough that the petitioner himself houghs he was eggrievso, t weryint iti‘y Member. Ipresenting his'Petitron. It had been ptit to hinitliar he presided in a Court, and mould lie like to see the table crammed with petitions : against Hine? But what -Ma istrate would not desire tell ave ireconduct canvassed? Ile trusted that there was not an'iridividual in the king dom, in a judicial situation, from the' highest to The 'lowest,--that would not v.-611111c same,. In the preiene temper of, the Howie he should withdraw, the Petition, lest` by its decision the Houie should establish a prece dent that such Petitions should not be received. 'lle Petition was then withdriro: - • • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then moved that the. House should resorve itself into a Coro : mittee of So We. • Sii JOHN WROTTESLEY, had not understood the Chancellor of the Exchequer, on a former evening, in eteding his plats for the reduction of the interest on the +per cents. to have-mentioned the period at which the final plynlein would take place to the dissentients. It would be a great convenience to the stockholders to . have some idea-of the time iv/4n that would take place. The CHANCELLOR of the EtCHEQUER said, the resolution on that point went to thisthat all those persons -who did not agree, should in - October be paid pne-third of their stock. He-certainly had not stated at what - period it would be convenient to pay off a further propotti%,hecause.that .would depend on the -means pace:sed by Government at the time. What was meant by the mentionof aiubsequent payment of 10 percent. was, that no less stun should bepaidOlf. 011014ANCE ESTIM-ATES.' • • • The House twitted Committee„ Sir HENItx HA RDINGE fosetoliseiVe&Ordnance . Estimates; and he was happy.toinforin thri•ComMittee; that there was considerable diminution inevery branch. Of the Ordnance Establishment. In the' last year the total sum to be expende d was 1,21 7 ,920/. in 4 t h e year it was 1,119,7744. being less by 96,1461. • than last year ; and if from that sem were deducted the barracks, which had been tranaferred from the Ordnance Esti mates to the Barrsicb branch - oF tile department,. there would remain a real ".di rniniklat of the .brinance of 67,0001. of which there was in the Extra Ordinaries the very considerable se niref 55,000 L butt t . eettlreat saving he could' tiot hope to.ConsidkrAf . .P!friarietit;' - bee: ertese in the last year the estimates.. for...repairs had been reduced to the very lowest amount, consistent with . keeping the buildings iii repair: ' He' iveuld;inecifore, ionsider this sum of $5,0004,‘ as a .suspension rather than i diminution of e4escififiriq.. Under the item -of On piovided, the small.se)Prf7.l,o9o./.. only .was wanted•for this year. The-setualiteseOf tine sum arose from the sew-mode of lieer_iitihoit ccottrits'estab7ielaed by the Master-GenerX4 - Thii:reiult. was the ' gratifying, .as this item 'was' one of which the -Ileusn',wos always jealous, as it was one for %Web there was-isci:estiniate. The three items or Oitiiii4ry; Estradrdhiavy, and provided, comprised thetotal Chafe fOr .tare effective Ordnance Estimates, and fell belcitAr whai the Finance Committee of .1819 had thought the Oteinsinte could be reduced to. This great reduitidOhail been effected by 294 clerks being reddeed ; and although a'great ad ditional labour had thus devolved upon those who re , mauled to do the duty, yet to them the gratuities which had been objected to were disallowed. The next branch was the Bar racks, in which there was also no increase Of charge, though there was an apparent - increase. The vote was for 114,5311. the last year's vote was 100 - ,0001. so - that there was an apparent increase of 14,0001. but 16,0001. ought to be deducted for repairs, so that in the barrack branch there was a tieing also. Eleven bar rack stations had been reduced ; and in Order to shew the Committee the saving that had been effected since the peace; he would inform therri that we had, during the war, barracks for 167,000 men, ,which were now reduced to what was sufficient for 42,060 men, being a redticticin of barraCks for 125,000 men. The expense during the war amounted to 620,0001. now the amount was 1.1.0,0091. so that there was a total !owing of half a million. The Irish part of the vote amounted to 134,0001. in this vote there was an excess of 29,0001. to which, adding 5,0001. for barracks transferred, there was a real increase of 28,0001. ,which was to be attri buted to the expense of the repairs of barracks. During the last summer; a COmmittee of Inspection had visited the whole cif the barracks, and it was Trorel their report that the present estimates were formed.. During the war; there were barracks for 80,006 men ; now there were barracks for 36,000 men, to which might be added 3„000 men, that could be lodged in houses.• In branch of Commissariat of Stores, the vote was 182,1951. being 90,0001. more than last year. TM'S inereaseartne lawn a cause which he hoped the House Would approve, which was a supply of 21,000 iron bedsteads. The Isoldiers had been hitherto is double births, which might be necessary in time of war ; but certainly there was no occasion for such an arrangement durihg peace. 'The double births were formed by stages erected in the apartment, so that in some instances there were four beds in depth. To remedy this inconvenience to men who had deserved so well of their country, this addi tional expense was incurred.,-(Hene, hear). There was also an increase of the charge an account of stores , sent to New South Wales and Sierra Leone. These two items of bedsteads and additional Stores would fully ac -count for the excess of the Commissiriat Store Branch. 'Having gone through the whole of the three great branches of the expenditure, he -would conclude by • moving that the sum of 47,2991. be granted to his Ma jesty, for defraying the charge of the saint ies of the Mas ter-General arid Officers at the TOwer aed Pall-mall. Mr. HUME said, he had'erpected that there would be considirable reductions; more reductions than had taken place. He confessed he had been herein , greatly diiappointed. He'consoitin4def the old stores being made a part of the Festinate, Though they were Mete Carefully thatieup. The introdiscuon of the old stew* octasioned erroneous calculation. He would give on instance. On.a former year the estimate wa54,326,1)00L the stores* were 2911,0061 so that the vote was for 1 . ,094,060. The amotint now was only 92,0001. less than the estimate of 1019'; but ti:is was not to 7 be won tiered at if the present prepondetotialeel.trge . army were to be kept up. The amount of the present estimates was three times greater than.thitt of the golden period of 1792.. He complained of theeliorgettor the Towet . Bte. they ouglir Lobe reduterfon4 thirst. Dui there was zerartieular'tenaeitY about these was shorn, when,in the last Session the reductit*Eiribe was ,'~'+~x'47"►3 las Ilrit-tivelitotsigre Of 'nth alter - sos howlosppatieseil that such or been absent many months in Lisbon, and was it.. The offics,had,p ne aniatkibty well without He had he asd that so nitrasur ves appointed-in He contended that siteVaittisr.rea not necessar: that t4bet• savings, iitightlie:elticted : by plicii it 6" °PO ' S'' , - 10 F. '‘.l2er-C..rM•Ahe • c lerks at the' Tnivieto correspond Wit P;dl-1141? 11f Wireii ten dines licher, and quarter of the debt, such ulna - ants ought votes!. Where Was the occasion'uf 470 01 - tahlishritent, when 19,0001. was sufficient in fourth year of theWur. If the 1-7,0001- were to 35 or:38.0001. twice. the arabunt of 1796, see the office new-modelled 'in a week, but • withheld the sopplies seduction would never And Jet it be remembered that they were now the Estimates were at the lowest amonnt—t: He also condemned the receipt of fees -for exhibiting the armoury at the Tower ; the price too having been' doubled by the late C••lonel M'Mahon. lie knew of lino law that would warrant such charges. As he.felt.- illat reduction would not take plisee till the supplies were limited 'by the House,, he therefore moved that 57,6001. be granted, being twice the amotint of 1795. ' lie•trusted that his amendment would have.the support of the House-(Bear, hear). - • Sir HENRY HARDINGE said,..that.as the dimiUp lion wap out of .the whole charge,. be:fruited it si Quid appear that such amendment ought not4o be ailupted in any shape. There had heinlargeyeductians amongst the clerks at Pall-mall and the ToWer. -Tat absence of Lord Beresford •was perfectly justifiable.. He waged)• sent in`Portugal, on his own psivateaffairs. In Decent... her' last the - Master-General wtnte to- the Lieutenant- General, stating that his services were required. \Vheres upon Lord Bet esford wrote, announcing that his private afairs.would not-.permit Tsis return, and offered his re-. ..sigaation—(Year, hear). His general utility was strtsrtgly felt, that the resignation was notthenzeceived•; but it being Rand thae Lord Beresford, was nut likely to return, Sir George 'Murray had been named' to his, Majesty, and Sir. George Murray was now :the Lieute nant-General. He declared that the presence of a Mj-. Wary Officer was absolutely necessat y- for the conduct ing the business or the Board. Mt-. Hiralgsaid, the answer was anything but sad factory. He asked why was to large an Establishment still necessary ? It was not to satisfy the House to say, that !leash the Establishment. was large, it was not soi larri'iis it had - been; therefore there ought to be no, turther reditttion—(Hear, hear). If Lord Beresford Could' b 8 abterit five month's, • without injury to the set.. vice, Whatever might he the vote of that House, it was proof that the Officer was not very useful—( Hear, hear): . He should press his -amendment.--The num ben were-s—'. • For this Vote - . - Fur the Amendment ,now - 99 . 19 Majority in favour of the Resolution - 70 The s*tt tote was for £7,000 to defray salaries of the Royal La boratory: and £55,000 for salaries of Officers at home and abroad. Mr. HUME-Objected to this, though he could not see thtt they auld be much lower, unless Corfu and Zante were to-support their own Ordnance Officers. os,ooo for fifty-six blaster-genitors. £67,000 for Royal Engineers and Sappers and Miners. £247,2611 for the R6yal Regiment of Artillery. Mr. HUME thought this corps a great deal too large. We had not an Army equal to the Artillery, but it s. as hopeless in him to..attempt to make a reduction.- He said • nothing against the Artillery, but a reducti9n of three or four battalions would be a saving of f"100,000. Sir H. HARDINGE said, this etas the corpi that required most drilling in case Of sudden war. The next vote was £79,590 for the Horse Artillery. Mr. HUME wished to know it Sir B. Bloomfield had been brought back to the corps, though now abroad, on a foreign mission ? . Sir H. HAll DINGE defended theappoininient of Sir B. Bloomfield, on the ground of the new.regulations.. Sir G. CLERK said, the arrangements were to be tirade the same in the Ordnance as in the Msrine Service. " The next vote was fot £l,OOO to the lospeciat-General of the Field Troth ‘7,0•41 for the Medical Oeparsment. £4;570 tor the Itiryil College•at Woolwich. Mr. HUME wished to Noir, if the reductions in this estahltshment-that had been promised had been carried into effect ? Sir H. HARDINGE sad, the number of Cadets under instruction had been much reduced, There was a great number well qualified, and for whom Commis sions could not be obtained. The nest vote was £75,574 for the Ordnance Extrxordinaries. • Mr. HUME objected to 10;000i. for extra engineers. He wished to' know if the Powder Works at Faversham had been broken up, as he was satisfied that ss;e could not want them again? He vs ished to know why Guern sey, Jersey, and the Canadas, could not pay their own military establishments ? Uwe gave the latter countri,es a free Government they would pay their own military; like the United States.' The next' vote was £1,020 for the Land Service. £ll7,oo6'for the Ordnance in Ireland. • Sir J. NEWPORT objected to - any survey .of Ire land as lawless. Mr. GOULBURN said, . the Master-General was satisfied of the importance of that survey, which would be loon put into execution. £512,552 for Halt-pay. £42,140 for Retired Allbvvances. £1,400.f0r Extra Fees. • • . • Mr. HUME objected to the charge of paying fees it -Our Own money. • Mr. HERMES stated, that steps had been taken by :the Treastiry in many cases to do away with the fees. Mr. HUME, if he was allowed ConsOttee, would 'soon apply a remedy. 114,5314 was voted fur the Barrack Department of Great Britain. Mr. HUME contended that the proposed Grant was 'Above the average estimate of former years, and uncalled 'foi by the state of the country. O ne half of the sum was suffiCient. What could call 'for an expenditure of sy.,oom for the repairs of- barracks, and 7,0001. for a Riding School in St. John's Wood ? . . Sir it, HARDINGE stated; that considerable redoc! tion had been made. • Since 1822 a reduction of 1500/. had beeii.matle. If the HonoUtable gentleman %Mild point Out any specific . instantes . of e'iccestive expenditure, the Board of Ordnincectoulil pay every attention to ie. ~oolonsi DAVIES protested against the whole ma nagement of-the thwack Establi s hment. - Nlr. HOBHOU,S4' depyecated the plan of:converting the King's Mews into Barracks. Formerly the country was alt alive to the subject df Barracts,'but now a was difficult to procure a single Petition—V . kmg44l.—Since thopeace,4lte sutn iotekt.qtr airmcks in the United itil)gdout had been ,6160,000 t. The time would - come 'Moen guilt a sy4eth mast aflpear: intole - r4bli. He houses . . -Ordnance Depart.._ ducted in the same'manner as the. Navy, by which a large sum would be saved to the connity. • The sum was agreed to, and the Report ordered to be received on Monday. , . • . • usorty 'LAWS. Mr. Serjeant •ONSLOW rose to move the Order Of; the Day, on the Usury Lays Repeal . ilifj. Sir It: HERON, heed the Hoitiaurable Gentleman would not bring on theaUbject at thatlate hour. Mr. Serjeant ONSLIOW nbserieda that • both the , ft lends and . . enemies of the Bill had agreed the discussion Should come oil that night. 'The tune .Was.only a few minutes past tep o'clock.. . • • The I louse rlivided:txpOn reedit* the Order *Woe Day. For the Order of the Day, S 5 I Against it, 311 Majority, 54. • Ugon the re-admission •of stl'angersto.the +Gallery,. •:• ' Mr. ROBERTSON was arguing against the principle pf the 811. Cicero,lvhen 'We went to his province of Cicilia, had put a stop !to . -Usury, whichwas also by the laws of lustiniati. In thelialitn Re publics a • certain rate of -infer& was also fixed for the use of money. At the present day Usury was sttietly forbidden in Hambergh. The Report of the Com mittee was the most defectift he had ever seen. The country had increa , ed in wealth and industry under the pperation of Usury Laws, which fiaving for a short time been repealed in the teign of Edward VI. had beente 'enacted by Elizabeth. In China the effect of Ustity had led to monopoly in every branch of trade. arid bad completely extinguished the middling class of society. ,--Should the Usury Laws be repealed, that would be the case in this country in the spate of half a century. He trusted the Landed Interest would come forward and oppose the • measure. Did the people believe the House to be in earnest, the table would be 'covered with Petitions - against the Bill. The Honourable Gen tleman here appealed to the evidence of Mr. Rothschild, in favour of Usury Laws, and-cited the opinion of Dr.: Adam Smith on the same subject. There was net a country in Europe in which such liws were not to be found. Such instances were indeed to be found' in some countries in Asia; but would linnourable Gee.; ilemen desire to see this countryin the 'same situa tion as those to which he had alluded ?*. 'He was ten : . vinced, if the Usury Laws were repealed, the borrower would he placed entirely at the mercy of 'the lender and, persuad&i of this fact, he should oppose it, and move, as an amendment, that this Bill be committed this day six months. Captain NIABERLY supported the Bill, which he was convinced would be attended with great benefit to the country. He had no fears whatever that the te 7 peal of the Usury Laws wonid leave the borrowtr at the mercy of the lender ; on The contrary, he was rer- . suaded it would be favourable to the lender, and would put an end to the ruitiou - practice of false bargains and annuities. Mr. Alderman HEYGATE was 'in rigor 'of the amendment. .He censidered the 'Weil Laws as bene ficial to the country. : Whenever the House - was de fired .to niter an existing lafi, those who asked for the altera tion were bound to show the necessity for die. change. Now - had that been done in the present case? It had not. Who asked for change in thii law ?, .Not the tradesmen—not the commercial men—not the Cities pf London or Bristol, or the populous towns of Liverpool or Manchester—but a few great capitalistkand -law yers, persons less capable of forming an opinion on this subject than any other. There had• been a Com mittee on this subject who had examined witnesses, But who were the per'sons examined? • Why great capitalists, bill. brokers, and annuitants. If a single country banker had been examined, the Committee. would have gained mote information than they 'bad done ftom all the witnesses they had. called before them. The Honeurable .! Of:Jerman - then proceeded. to repea t several arguments gaie'st . the repeal ofihis Taw, and particularly urged the. dilllctilty 'in which it would in volve the Public in case of . another war;-and a necessity for borrowing money for 'national purposes. He was ready to acknowledge that the present Usury Laws re spired amendment, particularly as regarded the penal ties imposed on 'usurious contracts, which w ere so enor mous that they defeated their own object. If no other Gentleman did, he would, in the course of the peseta Session, move for leave to bring in a Bill to alter and amend:the Usury Laws in this respect. • Mr. C. WYNN supported (he Bill. Mr. CALCItAFT was of opinion there was no mea sure which could be broughtTorward during the j.re sent Session,affectinglnore extensively, the Public interest • than this did; and he was somewhat surprised that his Majesty's Ministerg had not given their attendance during the present discussion. lie was decidedly of opinion this measure, which would have tl-e effect of unsettling the mind of the country, and inter tiring with almost :la existing contracts, ought not to'be adopted without the utmost caution. Ile knew that the agita tion of this question had excited a great sensation in the country, where, notwithstanding what was said of the plenty of money, and discount being at Two and a Half and Three . per Cent. men of good credit eould not get money. ender Five per Cent. and this he was well ern ,sinced of,- namely, that -tire general opiniini amoriFit ,Country Gentlemen was, that no circumstance mere in jurious to their interest could occur than the pas,ing this Bill'. 'The Committee examined Mr. Gurney, a gen tleman well skilled in money matters, who said, that at no period of the war hadhe found any difficulty in dis counting bills at Five per Cei4. Supposing thii Bill to pass,. and another war to arise, did the House think Mr. Gurney would be able to give sinyilar,.eviderict? • lie was of opinion; such a measure as that 'now propOsed. ought not so be adopted, without a previons . etnartiry: much mime solemn than any which had )eftakenpfaie.:• Mr. HUSKISSON thought it rather a novel course, tjr gop. - Members to call for Cov'ermnunt to, take up in"stirts wliclt had been brought forward by individuals. The lion. end ligarse l kter-• jrint . had intrOduted tfie - year after year, last essiou after Ste. stun. He was the Chairman of the Committee, and•to give effect I had tim u g h " 104 go hare ' wca eatell..e sugsli nt. m e mbergelh i ritl4'e feelia ssitkost due /l east Noisteatris it! & home/tab foe MAgistsa l °ba i l ors et state's Office, _ c losest clitui gr. Clart,, hl • the he vra n blame might .:7e , `Cluarter I : huge b Wh tame of Sir I rfsPrietY tttt 3esch of Ma m o r e oprtgin a different m Flint from tl plices, who taib been jest each jog up of th • 1 1 /1r...4TU low the .Peti this—&that th n o injustice ; tram. Honourable sot the prop Ainc -ought to hat the charge u bitrary coed ing of the hi not erect itse Seq emir wo 140111 M .loon to re "Vend had c Visited epon bet by oche Friend had TatiOAS of th mix him up tition. He meat of the conduct of tt it was suppc Honourable. were brough perbaps•the pose it=l , a 9 tided ur„iil.l at present, I Friend to v shouid be cr preseiie it ai Sir JOlll lion of di :ill duct of the vanced by I lie had, ho been strict should not I ing itnrifit of his word been amidst which he sv; thets at pre! ject of j tidic tack was au could suffer the decision could not a the conduct impeachabl and he asse! England Magistrate! Sir 41.‘ Mon. Mein receive the salter shot charges:of thetorieint fag bp the allegation Petition, s read. TI and he w out bppOt thit ktiO MnO ought hti Membet Petition b of "AO interrupt its proteCt tended th; sent a Pe to the con contained hear). N‘ apply tha tttey ougi to say t • it course. convettiet of the col posed the Mr. 11' jetted th • this Petit Offirtessiv Mr. S Ilunoura Nsithraw Mr. D Nle Mr. St that as tl could no its being Mr. 8 been pu Iniqht w Mr. S who Lad Withdral brought • 1 _ ... ~ ~ , .. ..--.- .. --- • . . . . _ , . . • . e .r-*•-r • . i : ''... .e. . • . . . . ' . . pia f or . It dogitiklit_ • Aserownilad the-right to to•vert it 1 peer was ne- 14(enekintsi ' . ke,• ~, • . o (f a ce! . had . !lir BE Y . H itlttliNOE,.i . siid, ". ibllt,.. " l " ltlit . c. 4 it Ito' ' • . v.. I now there? acteshaviritaf 2 0 0001. in the-Barrack Department . kit . s• . t: • i rithout him. 'the Oresent rat. Nothing-could Oe wissereflor a soldier • in his stead.. thin rO'be cOroolllo4 o frequent Ael§it'inblic-hoases . •. . .; ha i r y ;, an d 4f .Westminster, whieli irbitld be the case if they were plicing the •lilletea.thein. • . . - -,s , occasicnuto • • Sit RatreT ifEßON'oliferfetioliat the 'evil arose . .. • • ' itli thine in fritra kleanilkait ArMy,:a illiiT,'unlikto'n ; n'tO onr'inees- • :i, ,cr had not a inr.S, shnit ihe.purettimes oltheConsuiiiiOn. , , t not to be ' Mn HUME wortld.cnt down the . vote from 1 f4,06(1/0 I 1 for snehs- to •100,0001• on 'the grOond that the Riding School in f ' ' 1 .n 1796,•the Sr.' John's Wood was tiiineeessary, inil 'the allowance to, . 1 i ere seduced the Barrack Master s w a s excessive. : . t. . . k .: they would The Committee divided—For theoriginal sum, 93 ; . 1 , ut till - they For-the Amendment, 38. er be made.. .. :. 1 4. 1 , - XI 0,000 fur lite •Barrack 'Department in Iteland. - . • ;AP ow told .‘,.,, ?he same tem - Nr the Commissariat a n d store . Department. . . , , „___„:,_`_' „_",`.. Mr. MADER LY objected to the txpense of store- L'ic a T"""") houSer. The -Ordnance Department should be con- . ..