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and I to been rils; roan ;ha! Ott forei to It,Cll 11111 C 11 U) CV. tr . ti own ,do; snits; twc not s no !up rr.— •licrc as I "fur rt re. 1 flood : WAS yet. 4 bile 4f . .. :diced luch iid uot etter to /Mil be rem to 7 I vrzs cc deck. ked me in prirti here ; g to do look out id ofe• erman" . B WIN balking about it. Che liertifint ealied *lit* j..ockwood, and anted him ;file would look out? be then went cut of the birth, and was taking . a man but of every birth all the Way aft to the main hatchway; as he came back he gave the Watch- Word. If any officer came forward, the watch. word was, Give me a chew of tobacco;' then he went into the midihip birth, under the bowfprit, along with Edward Taylor, who began to write a letter ; there was no other man in the birth, or :;cite, except the people looking on. An officer came forward; they fang out, who will give me a ;;lew of tobacco? The candle WAS put out till the Officer was gone, when they began again; the le *Cond. watch-word was, . ' Knotk that rat down.' An officer came down again, and the light was put out again; as loon as he was gone, the watch word was, I want to water.' An officer came ,town, the light was put out again: Edward Tag lor and Chefterman went into Rowland's birth, where the letter was fininted ; after the letter was Enifhed and direeed, Taylor afked who had got a foal ? Daly laid, Don't do that, you should not (cal it. He then got a key of chef! and prefred k on the wafer t then Chefterman and Taylor went to the midihip birth with the letter, and I fol lowed to fee where it was going. Some converfa tionpatedbetween Taylor andChefterman toknow which way it was to be conveyed to the Admiral. Chefterman thought it would do if he could give it to a Quarter-Mailer to put in the binnacle. Fitzgerald came up and afked Taylor if the letter was gone? Taylor anfwered—No. He faid, if you will give it to me I will give it to James Shaw, the marine, who will have middle watch to-night, and he will put it in the Admiral's Steward's birth ; Taylor faid, we want the Ad miral to get it to-night ; they could contrive no way to get it to the Admiral that night, and Taylor gave it to Fitzgerald. I heard no more of the letter till I heard it read on the quarter ticck. I am fenlible there was no man but Chefter man and Taylor knew the contents of the letter, except it was broken open afterwards and read. On 'ruefday morning Edward Taylor came to me on the main-deck, and afked me if I had any of his yoking ? I told him no, I had not; he a(ked rite if I was fore of that ? I faid I would overhawl and fee to convince him, but I was lure I had not; be told me if the hands were turned up to unmoor, to repair to the lower deck as before. I told him very well. In the afternoon I was on the lower, deck in James Chefterman's birth; Chefterman afked me if I knew Hazard, and if I knew any thing of his carrying mefrages to the officers ? I told him I never law him, and I had never (poke to him ; Chefterman and Fitzgerald fell into dif courfe about it ; they wanted to put an end to him by fume Means or other; Fitzgerald Lid, if be was put into a bread bag they might heave him overboard ; Chefterman feemed pleated at the pa liniment. Some other converfation paired I did not hear. They made it up at laft to let him re. main till the bufinefs was allfettled ; Taylor being prefent at the time, Lid, you muff take tare what we talk before him. I went away, and walked the gangway with Taylor. I faid, Ned, I think it in a foot& thing coming down on the lower deck when the lcrlds are turned up to unmoor. He afked me why, what could I find better? I laid we Ihonid (hew ourfelves more like men to go on the quarter deck, and tell the Admiral our rea fons, fo that every man might anfwer for himfelf, if fp(%'<e to ; that if we went to the lower deck it Would only give the officers the trouble to come down and drive us up as before, and you may be fare they will be down when the hands are turned up, and very likely before we can get out of the middle dock. He faid, very well, I (hall con fider and fee about it.' Soon after lie told me that was to be the way, and the word Was paired, by whom I cannot tell, that when the hands were turned up to onmoor, we were to go on the quar ter deck. 'Clo Wednefday inorninz that word was paired again tho Aril thing ' • one of derrick ' s weir mates came to our birth; be was the furgeon's fervent, a black man, ast4 anted if his meWmate was then? told him he was not there ; he Paid he Was. gienew.bnre alma. the fhip, and he be lieved he wayospggy. I went to the lower deck, where I wai 044 by one of .the prifoners if I had feeataar thiag, of Verrick ?- I told hint I had not; he told me he was fomewhere about the (hip drank,. and mull be found.. Soon after I was walking the middle deck, where I law Verrick walking the (Larboard fide of the t .r•allery. X went down on the:lower deck, and ca red Cbeflarnan and Collins ; I told them I thought he was npt drunk; Collins faid he was drunk jug now. for he lay *bin the Admiral's. Reward's birth. and he dared lag.,he had been anecps and that might make b 0;04144 again ;: that awn nothiug faid to taut t night; the :ford was .palred when all Itiaadhwere sunned up to unmoor,, to go to the funeaitleand forerigging ; Taylor gave it me ; Owners:tan. Taylor, Ward. Cook, and Fitzge r4d, were the only perfons I ever law pats the word. On Thurfday the fame word was paired again; our Admiral went um board the Comma-_ der in Older I!went down and- ailed, whether they.. had or were going, to cob - Verzick yet he dulitot thiulthe had: &me it; he.alked me if I law hinulaft night; I told, him yes, and-did not think be was drunk ; I went away from him, and went to James Chellerman, End ailed him what they titre goini to do,with,terrick? do with him,cob him to be.lnre,.! I td.him I thought be was. not drunk when I law him in-the gallery; I told him Ward thought it might give him a caution not to drink fi moat again; thatbe d—d ; botanic he's a bit of athoffieet be is to be fereened'..—l wap b.ld afterwards he was cobbed, but I did not fee it ; he hid a dozen and a half ; the word was paired by the prifoners to repair to the forecaftle aild.,KwealgAisag whiptheAdmkalAame on board; I v.-as tol it by Edward Taylvw—When the Ad sn:ralcante on botti-d, he produced the letter, and a&ed if it was IntoVra by die,ftie cowpony that Calk a was. : doge I ' AD heads. severed • Yee.' Titi - Mapialtaaol it, end idled a recond lime if they all knew.it i 'They anfweretl Yes.'— Ht aiked the minions if they knee it ? They alkOithe Zs company 411111kPal.at, , .ffinfiwcrul, • No" All I iteiici was, 'the Admiral raid, iihe n Q._ Now, tilion your oath, do you declare you, the hands were turned up to unmoor the (hip, he l did not tee either, or the whole of the prifoners at expededit would be don e accor di ng l y . A great I the time fhot was called for?—A. I faw Ward, the deal of converfation palled I did not hear. He I prifoner, (landing dole to me ;we were (landing fictisfied the (hip's company very muc h ; t h ey a ll to t hi c k 1 cou ld not f ee, except w h en t h e f cutt l es teemed well pleafed at what the Admiral Laid, were up ; I did not fee any other of the prifoners. (till determined not to unmoor the Ihip to go to Where were you (landing when Hillier called the Weft Indies. About a quarter after twelve I out to lower the ports fore and aft ?—A. I was fit faw M'Evoy on the quarter deck, talking to one ting dole againd the breech of the foremaft TM. of his own officers. After the hammocks were Q„ Which of the prifoners did you fee at that piped down I went to his birth and called him ; thnel—A. I faw Hillier, Ward, and Lockier. he followed me as well as he could under the ham- Q._ Do you recoiled feting any thing of any car niocks till he got against the breech of the middle tridges of powder in that part of the (hip, or burn gun. I afked him what he was doing on the ing matches ?—A. I never did. quarter deck? He did not make any other an- IQ When the (hip's company were turned up to fser than that he did not k now , on ly h e P a id hi s bend the fails, did either of the prifoncrs remain officer told him he was a d—d rafcal. I then below to your knowledge ?—A. No ; I did not fee told him be was drunk ; he laid 'No, he was not them. —he had not drank a drop that evening.' Some Q. Look round at the prifoners, and point out little time after I went down below to unlafh my thole who have laid they would not go out of the hammock. When I got to the toot of the lad- land.-1.. I have heard them all fay, we mull not der, I heard the iron (hoeing op ; I went over to go if we can help it, and the whole of the ship's the larboard fide of the deck to Fitzgerald's company befides them. birth, and told him that M'Evoy was drunk, and 4.1._ Did Mayfield, Lockier, and Ward, go on that fomebody was going in irons, but I did not deck when you did?—A. They followed me out know who it was ; he defired me to go and fee. of the birth, but I did not fee where they went. I went up the main ladder, and law it was a q._ Did the pritoners confider you as a prim- marine ; I came down the main ladder again, pal ador in this bufmefs, or only as a melfener? and coming aft of the deck, I faw a m arine I Was you f u lly in th e i r f ecrets ?—A. I w a s fully; knew. I afked him what his meflinate was put let into their fecrets. The reafon I was let into in irons for ? he Paid he had no meffmate in irons. their fecrets was my letting them into mine. I Paid there was a marine in irons ' • he laid ' yes.' When I went down with a (beet of paper, Taylor I afked him what it was for ? he Paid lie did knew he had crated me with fo many before, he not know. I laid, I believed he was drunk : thought he could trull me with this. 1 he replied, he did not know. I raid, he mull have Q. From Taylor and Chefterman's having fuch done fomething amifs, or he would not have been conhdence in you, and letting you in their fc.crcts, confined ;he Paid he had abufed his corporal. I did you never hear them mention any thing about Paid, if he had got drunk and abufed his officer, an oath.—A. I never did. and got in irons, lie mutt work himfelf out as well Q._ Did you fee Daiy in the manger ?—A. I did 1 , as he knew how. I left him, and went down the not; I was (landing right in midflups, on the liar-, fore-ladder into the lower deck, into John Fitz- board fide ; I could not fee ; Daly might have gerald's birth. I afked Skelley where Fitzgerald been on the fiarboard fide and I not fee - him. was ?he (hewed him on the gangway. I went and Q, Did you fee any perfon look out of the fpoke to him ; he wld me I (timid flop, he was hawier-hole for boats ?—A. No, I never did. bufy. I then went Co his birth along.fide Skelley, Q. Did you hear Ward, Hillier, or any of the and I law Taylor come down and call him away. prifoners defire Daly, or any one to do fo ?—A. I was fitting in the aft part of the birth, and look- No, I did not. ed round and faw them run as far aft as the gun. Q Did you ever fee Thomas Crofs in May room. I then went forward to John Maitland's field's or Ward's birth ?—A. I never did ; I never birth; I laid, 4 Jack, there is a marine in irons.' heard him fpeak any thing. He afked me who ? I told him M'Evoy. He laid, Q._ What was your reafon for pointing Row. 4 we mull have him out.' I afked him what we land out as a fit perfon to go aft ?—A. Becaufe I mutt have him out for ? he laid there were. n., thought he was a man fit to fpeak to the Admiral, prifoners allowed. I Paid, he was as drunk as hell, and give the Admiral an anfwer when he fpoke and he had better let him bide. I had fcarce to him. Paid that when I law a parcel of people go up the fore-ladder. I heard Ea: and Taylor fay,' bear a hand up from below, every man fore and aft.' All the people in Maitland's birth were myfell, Ward, and Lockier. I then went away to the fore ladder, expelling they were going to relent the prifoner. I could not : get up time enough ; there was nobody there. I went pail my own birth, and fat down before the foremoft gun till I thought all was over. I then went round under the bowfprit, and came back again between the foreman and the copper. I had not been there five minutes before John Davisearneinand afked for a hat: 4 Who will lend me a hat to go on deck in ?' No one made him any anfwcr. I can't fay whether he was. gone when Mr. Glover came and called me to go upon deck. I told him, yes ; I would come direaly. I went to the fore-ladder, not knowing the gratings were on. I could not get up there. I went to the main ladder, when Glover came to me, and till me I mull go up the after ladder, over to the larboard fide of main deck. Mr. Charlton was walking alongficie, and 'Mr. Stanton before us. I went on deck on the far board fide, by order of the O ffi cer. The Admiral came round, and, putting the !anthem to my face, laid he thought be heard my voice on the forecafile. I anfwered him, 6 No, Sir, I was not there.' He raid, he believed I was, till told him, Mr. Glover fent me up from below. He then paired me, and laid no more. The next morning, Friday, the boatfwain's mate told me to go aft. As I was going Mr. Brown feized me by the collar, and fent me under the poop awning as a prifoner, till the Admiral and Captain came up. I was ordered to the quarter deck. The Admiral laid, This is the man I fpoke to !all night.' I anfwered him, 4 Yes; but told him it was a miitake. He told Q Do you mean by that he was a man who frequently - gave his opinion upon thefe fubjeas ? A. No, Sir. Do you know whether the bucklers were on or ar the hawfe hole, or whether there was any daylight ?—A. The ports were all up. Captain goner.—You frequently carried menages between Chetterman, Fitzgerald, and Mayfield's birth, and reported every thing that was goingon. In what light did you confider thofe people in this butinefs?—A. They were the principal men. Q.._ Look round at the prifoners, and name thofe you looked upon as the ringleaders ?—A. James Chetterman, Edward Taylor, James Ward, John Mayfield, John Fitzgerald, and William Cook. PRESIDENT. Q z. Who was the perfon, who faid you mutt be ware of Mr. Stanton ?—A. Taylor faid, that Col lins faid, damn him. Don't you think that was being a ringleader? What do you think of Hillier, who called to down the ports ? Who were the other ringleaders. or a&ive mcn ?—A. Collins, Hillier, Cummins, and Lockier. Was not Daly ?--A. I never heard him fay any thing but about fealing the letter. I never faw him. Was not Chriftopher White ?—A. I faw no thing of him. Do you know any thing of Rowland ?—A. Nothing but his being propofed to go aft. Q.... What do you know of George Crofs ?—A. I know nothing of him. Q . , Although you have mentioned that feveral of the men have not faid much to you, don't you to the bell of your opinion think, the whole of the prifoners were the leading men in the diiturbance on board the Temeraire ?—A. No, Sir. me to hold my tongue and not (peak. I heardthe Admiral alit if that was not the man who rpoke to the marine laft night ? The Captain anfwered,— ' Yet :* it was.' 'I hen the Admiral faid, That% the man who turned the hands up.' I raid, No, Sit : it was not.' He told me not to (peak another word. I was then taken away, and remained till three in the afternoon. I was then fent aboard the Windfor Caftle as a prifotter. Examined by Captain Ayiee. Q. Did you ever hear Collins, Chefterman, Fitz. geraTd, or any of the prifoners fay they were the Delegates for the (hip ?—A. I have heard Taylor and Chefterman ray fo • no other perfon. Q Where were Chefterman and Taylor at the time they raid fo ; and who cite were prefent 'They were in Chefterman's own birth. Nobody heard It but myrelf, It 'Was on Wednefday after noon. Fitzgerald, Chefterman, Tayldr, James Kelly, Henry Clatfon; and 'Thomas Rik, were playing at. Checkers. ' Did you ever hear any of the prifoners pro pore to break open The magazines or gender's ftore room I—A. I never did, nor any of the 'ffitp's I ompany. Q z _ Did you ever hear Ay of the prifotters fpeak nf loading the Ichver deck guns I never did. Q„Did yon ever hear pay oftbetnfpeak of ruffi ing ilk to kill the officers ?—A. I never did. I heard Taylor and them fay on the Saturday they Were not going to hurt any officer. Q Between the :ft and the 7th of December, , did you hear any thing of in oath taken to (land true to each other, or a toad being drank 1-.;-A.*l never did. Examined by th e Cwt. At the time you confers the ladderwas (hipping on the lower deck, did you heir any body call out for (hdt I—A. Yes, I (bd. (Z :.. Where were yon landing at thgt bolel—A. . Molt the f *lion the ibirettualeck: Crefs.examinrel by Maineld. Q. Did I go aft on the quarter deck on the Sa turday with the people, to fay the (hip could not go ?—A. I cannot fay. O Did you ever look forward on the forecaftle while the people were aft ?—A. Admiral Campbell and Captain Eyles Paid, they faw you on the fore cattle. Croft-exorcized by Worm Ward. Q._ Did you fee me prefent at the time the let ter was wrote ?—A. No, I did not. i Q Did you ever receive any orders from me ? A. No I did not. Q.i . Lid lever order you to go with any mef fage7—A. No, you did not. Q . ... Did you ever fee me alive ' fore and a ft the (hip, or in any other paroles birthf—LA: Yes, I have, in my own birth ; you told:my trairmates not to carry their hammocks down in' the morning. Crofrexambred by Cbeermen. or a t t Did you ever hear me make mention to any Perfon Or perfons in the (hip anything concerning a roiket, as a fignal to any of the (hips in Beer- Haven ?—A. I did not: Q . .. Youlay, yon heard me and John Snowden ;rebuffing together . : on die' firft beginning, did ou not bear me fay pri'vately to Snowden, that me of :the petty o&ors fhonld make known to he Admiral and Captain the {tate of the {hip, to 1 0 prevent any further mifchief, and to endeavour to ft:hirers it ?—A. No, I did not. Crtifi-eirerriied by OtzkerideL Q, :. Upon the oath you have taken, did you hear me tav any thing about alighted match ?—A. No. Qo3id you ever fee mein Mayfield's birth drink in Ah the heft part of the prifoners ?—A. No. Q Did you everiee the in my own birth with a (beet of paper reading to a great number of peo. ple ?—A. I never aid. Q_ On Monday ; at what time; and where did Tat/Nor'/OTb me dipjetter N.-A. Abut a quarter ' big" 11 10"d'adi . . . - Q Where ?—A. Ne Carlin and ga4e it over left floulder ; he reached over th. c Who was prctent when I 1 - p.ike to Cheder. man about putting Hazard in a bread bag and de firoying him ; and wneve was it?---1. In your ova birth; not recoiled ..iny by name but Kelly ; there were others there, and Taylor came bziJrc it was finilhed. Q On Thurfday night, who crac indent tvhcn I told you to go up and fr %%ho wab in irons A. Kelly, Riley, and Claffot.. . . . - Q Who was I bufy with at the time you want ed to (peak with me ?--A. Spencer, Collins, and feveral people betide. Th were talking about a pig. Q Did you fee me and Allen drinking toge ther-7—A. I never did. _ Q In the courfe of you and me being fhip mates, did you ever fee me and John Anfrey at any one time in converfaiva together ?--A. never did. CroPexamined by Collins. O Do you, on Skizurday, remember feeing me, about nine o'clock in the morning, going round the deck with Chgterman and Fitzgerald folicit ing thc 'people to go aft,un the quarter deck ? A. No. Q. Did you hear me, on Sunday the 6th, when the Wammocks were going out, very much in com pany with Fitzgerald, lin,ging out, 6 D—n your eyes, you don't know your own mit.d P—A. No, I did not. When yon was forward on the lower deck, in company with me, Taylor, Chellerman, Fitzge rald, Ward, and Lockier, were there no e.!ler per lons you can call to recolleaion who were there ? —A. There were a number of others befides, whom I do not recollth. Q._ Was you there before me ? A. I was not. q,Ly Me Prilinter—Q . ... You nand here evidence for the King, and you are concealing ram evi dence ; do you not remember coming into my birth, and calling me to come forward ? A. I never went into your birth at all; I do not know what birth you mired in. ido not remembercal .. ling you.- - Q .: _ Do you not remember telling me you had taken two great coats from two marines, to difguife yourfell ? A. I took the great coats ; but I really forget I ever mentioned it to the prifoner.—Q Did you ever fee me in any of the prifoners' births, drinking or diieourting with them, except on Sunday, the 6th of December ? A. I never Did you ever fce me in any affernbly or meeting of the prifonerF, or ufing any more freedom, during the ill and i tth of Decem ber, than at any other time ? A. I never did, more than going after Franey, to fee if h.: was drunk, and on Sunday, as I before mentioned. • - Qdy COM:wood. Did you ever hear llnis propofe to (mother a mate ?—A. No, Sir. —Do you remember feeing any letter wrote in Taylor's birth, on Wednefilay eveiting?-. No. Qly the Fri Timer 4. 0:k/es.. You have Rated in your evidence, I was a leading man in the clic turhance, and that you was employed in carrying melfa•Tes for the leading men to thole in their confidence; did you ever hear me give any orders, or defire you ear: y any mei - ages, during the dif. tnrbance?—A. I did not.—Q What part of the dillurbance did you find me a leading man in A. On Sunday afternoon, when the ports were lowered down; the tirft I heard call for (rot, was James Luckier...—Q. From that particular, do totillate me to be aleading man, when you alto fay, that feveritl others calltd for (hot? [Here the Court interfered, citid the prifoner thought fit not to prefs the queftion.] O tyti.e,priftier Cummins. Did you ever hear me cry out, haul in the fetittic‘?—A. No. QYet you fay I w.ts adive. What then was I a:tive in? A. In the firlt place, when thL.letter w.ts writing, the prifoner was looking out for the officers. On the Sunday, when the officers were coming, he paired me on the larboard fide of the lower deck ; and when the men were running, he faid,Here arc men !land by each other. Q Where was I? A. Between the two fotelnofi guns. Q._ ly the prifoner Did you ever fee me in converfation with any of the prifoners during the mutiny ? A. No, except when you lowered the ports down. • Q._by the falconer Da .—You Fay there wis no one in Rowland's birth but Che(lerman and Tay lor. Where was I ?—A. I cannot fay. O. On Sunday the 6th December, did you fee Antiey on the larboard fide forward ?—A. No. Q. Could he have been there without your feeing him when the ports were lowered down ?—A. There were great many I could not fee. by Admiral Hclloway—Did you fee of the prifoners, ur did you near any of them fay they were ready to go and affift the Admiral and officers in carrying the (hip to fea, and obey ?—A. ' I never did. Thomar Spencer examina. This witnefs fpokc as follows : On Tuefday, the Bth of December, from fix to eight in the evening, I faw John Collins, Janie: Ward, John Fitzgerald, Thomas Jones, Thomas Crofs, John lviiyfiad, Jaines . Chettermart, William Cook, and Edward Taylor, with a book on the'table, and a fhect of writing paper on the book, Collins telling Taylor what to put in the paper. I allied Coi , k what that was conc erning , and he told m e i t was a let ter they were writing to the Admiral. The peo ple were fitting outfide their births, and when Lieutenant Forfaveatne 'fore, the people fung out, a rat ! a rat !' and throwing their hats down on the deck, laid they wanted a chew of tobacco, ind that they wanted to p-4. Then the peo ple ran out of their birth, and John Collin. ran ont of the !larboard fide and fat on the cisoile. Ed ward Taylor ran in between the hammocks with the book and (beet of paper in his hand ; and when Lieutenant Forfar went .tfl, the people went into the birth again to write the letter ; but how it went to the Admiral I do not know. James Ward conflantly walked round the deck nn the Bth, 9th, and Loth of December, defiling the people not to take up their hammocks till they were piped up. He propofed bar-icading the hatchway fore and aft with the hammocks ; and if that would not do, whe the hands were turned up, the Ihip's siirsieto nigh aft, ditarm the ft,ftefi t . gad take