Star. — London, England, 1824-04-06 00:00:00

I I / [ I L c 1 11.. , ply weft part of the results ion which referred to the domains of Windsor Park, as many private properties were surrounded by the Par k, some. of which were an the immediate vicinity of the Long Walk which he had . just mentioned, and if the individuals to whom those properties belonged .chose to let their land out for build sag nobody epeld prevent them, and thus this beautiful prospect ani&htbe altogether destaoyed..-la.was there fore thought proper by his Nl..jesty's Governrnen.t, to apply a asba.of themohey to.the purchase of thase , ariv , vate estates, with which the owners wee very il ling to - part.for the fair value. It might.., however, be asked,- why .he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) called. upon the Parliament for so huge a sum of antiney with out being able to produce any estimate Of die probable eapense? It world be' however seen, that there would be considerable difficulty in coming to any iromedi4te negociation with the owners of different properties of different value. With respect also to the architectural alterations, it was desirable that nothing should be done without the fullest consideration-...(Hear, .4ear) z — Recent events would convince Gentlemen of the neces, say of caution in this respect, otherwise they :night be . reduced toahe same necessity as had pies-ailed with re gard to the New Buildings at Westminster Jlall—(Hear, hear). It was besides to be considered, that alterations could not be made in the one case with the same facility as in the other, a, respect must be had to his Majesty's private feelings ; and every fresh alteration must be in some degree an inconvenience to him. On the other hand, if the Committee abstained from acceding to the grant wail every detail of. its probable expendi ture could be laid before them, they- would equally interfere with the comfort of the Sovereign, by depriving him of the means of putting into execution those im provements which his own taste might suggest Ile therefore trusted that the Committee would not think the want of the estimates a sufficient reason for refusing the grant. He felt it his duty, however, to state, that his 'Majesty'. Government did not shrink - from any responsibility as to the disposal of this sum. All they claimed was that fair and legitimate confidence, as to the mode of its application, which he was sure the country would not refuse to repose in them—(Hear, hear),—Having now disposed of that part of the subject which related to the manner in which the money was to be applied, he should addert to a circumstance upon which he feared ninth misconception had hitherto pre vailed : he alluded to the Commission under whose su perintendence the proposed alterations were to be car tried on. it was not (as had been erroneously supposed) - inteaded to call upon Parliament to give to those C 01111• missionets powers of a nature superior to those legally . • possessed by the members of his Majesty's Government over the distribution of the grant; nor was it intended by the appointment cf such Commissioners to shift any part of the responr.ibility which he had before acknow ledged ettacbed to his Majesty's Government upon them. Such a course, he' was willing to admit, would be highly unconstitutional and extremely improper (Hear, hear). But no such cows?. was contemplated. Among those Commissioners would be several who were, ex officio, members of the Administration. They would therefore be responsible in a double capacity, both as Commis sioners and members of the Goternment ; but he con fessed he should consiJer it a most unworthy course to shift any part of the responsibility from the shoulders of Government elsewhere; but although the Govern ment would be responsible altogether as to the distribu tion of the money, and partly as fat as matters of taste were concerned—(a laugh)—he confessed he saw no rea son why they should not be assisted in the latter part of their duty by able and experienced men, who must, from their situation and professional habits, be well ac quainted with matters of that nature. It would not he supposed, be contended, that it formed a part of the duty, or was inherent in the situation held by him. self or his Noble Friend at the head of the Treasury, that lie should be a person of good taste—(La aghter).— lie did not, as far as lie was concerned himself, profess any very great talent in that way. Mr. Burke had said that it was Perfectly, hopeless to expect that the mem bers of a Government should ever be persons of much taste for the Fine Arts---(A laugh). He had attributed this to their education ; but he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) thought it was rather to be ascribed to the nature of their duties anciao want of time. There was besides considerable difficulty in coming to a proper ctiklusion with respect to these affairs of taste, as must be evident to those Gentlemen who had attended the recent debates in that House—(Hear). Everybody, in fact, could condemn, and this condemnation was ge nerally considered as a proof of ability in him who used it ; but he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had never known two persons to agree in discussions upon pure matters of taste. The mode of conducting such matters by means of a Commission was not unprecedented in this iountry. In former times it was very generally u s p pOsed that the Executive Government could have no taste at all—(A laugh). He (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) was not inclined to give them credit for much— ,(4 Pugh). When therefore the Board of Works was first established, it was placed exclusively under the controul of sir William Chambers, who, whatever might be the opinion of his contemporaries respecting him, and he need only refer to the Heroic Epistle of Mason to slew that it was not very high, was thought fitter to direct its operations than the Lords of the Treasury.— Io the year 1802, when an applications was made to Parliament for a grant towards the erection of suitable monuments to those heroes who had fallen in the-ser vice of their country, a measure was adopted by the 'Treasury somewhat analogous to that now recorn :mended. Certain persons specified in their minute, who were known for their taste and skill, were directed to take upon them the superintendence of those monuments. body, upon its appointment, had met a ith a great deal of invidious opposition. Not being supposed to possess the tequisite aptitude for the task entrusted to them, die? were sneeringly designated " The Commit tee of Taste." Much good had, however, resulted from their labours, and our public monuments had in his (the Chancellor of the Exchequer's) opinion been much im oved in their general character and desigu since that eriod. By adopting such a course as - this, the Govern oient would be secure from blame, and the Public %tied have an assurance that their money would be. laid out to advantage, and need not dread the effects of that want of taste which he feared was inherent in the Board of Treasury— a ( Hear, arida Laugh). It was upon t,e,e grOunds that his Noble Friend at the head of the T easurrhad recommended that in addition to three Members of the AJtniaistration who should be included in the Committee, amrtng whom would be his Noble Vriend (Lard Liverpool),' the Commissioner of Woods , and Forests, and himself, they.should be at liberty to cwll such individuals to their assistance as viould, from their known character, give the Public an assurance . . that the principles of good taste would not be forgotten. Without, therefore, wishing to remove any I espunsibi lity, as far as the money was concerned, from the QC/l vernrnent, to whom such sesponsilility properly attached, and 'who would be ready to coatis forward at any time when called upon, and say " aborts Ojai," and feeling that the proposed arrangement would insute the proper execution of the intended alterations, he should sit down in the full t onfidnce that the Committee world not re , fuse the grant now called 'for. The 11.gli; Honourable Gentleman concluded by moving- 7 s. That a sum mg exceeding 40,0004 should be granted to his Majesty, fur the purpose of making certain repairs, alterations, and additions•to Windsor Castle, and also for the pur chase of certain lands in Windsor Parks." Sir JOSEPH YORKE said, Windsor Ca tie was a magniEcent structure, and did not 'require alteration, but merely to be kept in a'state of comfortable repair. With respect to the purchases it was proposed to make, at the rate the Chancellor of, the lixchequer gal; loping on, he might come to Parliament for money to purchase the whole town of Windsor. He would not oppose the grant,- hut he hoped proper caution would be used in its application—(Hear, hear). Mr. BANKES was extremely favourable to the vote, as suitable to the dignity of the Crown and Country. Lord G. CAVENDISH thought no one should be calleJ on to form part of the Commission but persons officially responsible. ' Mr. CURWEN said he could not agree to the grant without a specific estimate of the expense, which might be four times greater than was intended. Mr. HUME said he understood the purchases in tended to be made of ground in the neighbourhood of the Castle would cost 110,000/. He would not agree •to any grant until an estimate was made. He appre hended the expense would be five times what was pro posed. The, lion, Gentleman concluded by moving that the consideration of the subject should be postponed. Mr. GREY BENNET seconded the motion, and spoke against making any grant before an estimate of the eapense was • laid before the House. He mid, if these things went on he could hardly imagine what would be the result ; they might begin at Bri g hton, proceed vie the New -street, thence go to Windsor; but terminating Heaven knew where-04 lauji). All 4orts of schemes were proposed, all sorts of plias were brought forward, and all sorts of estimates moved.,--To slake the House dread such things, he would only utter two words—" Caledonian Canal."' If they had not a plan, and the name of the Architect who contemplated the - pulling down of any part of 'Windsor Castle, he would nut vote one penny. Sir C. LONG said, he had never heard of any inten tion to pull down any part of Windsor Castle; nor of any necessity 'to make rooms large enough to hold a Court there. He agreed that the Castle ought not to have its 'appearance altered ; certainly that the soutla front should not have any alteration. As accurate estimates had been formed as could be ascertained; and the utmost sum did not exceed 300,0001. At all events the Castle was not in such a state as was fit for his Majesty to reside in. Lord J. RUSSELL urged the necessity of their know rig what really was to be done before they voted money; and he pressed the propriety of postponing the vote till they could have more definite and accurate information. The architects had not yet given. in their estimate and plans ; and it was possible they might say that for such a sum they could not- make a fit habitation for the King. Then what would be the situation of the Chaneellor ofl the Exchequer after he had got the vote? As to thel buying of land on -which there were houses, he said it would be better to exchange Crown Lands for them, instead of burdening the Public. Mr. MABERLY said, he did not wish to limit the taste of his Majesty, but they ought to know from the Ministers that more than 300,0001. would not be wanted. If they did not say as much, he knew not whether, in voting the first 150,0001. he was not pledging himself to an Indefinite expenditure—to a million or more. Of such votes they had • had enough in the Caledonian Canal, the Penitentiary, &c. As to the latter building, the Penitentiary, never had there been such a waste of public money-( Hear hear). The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER under stood that more than the sum named would not be ne cessary. As to.playing all sorts of tricks with the Cas tle and its magnificent south exterior, nothing of the kind was contemplated. The architects had been told that beyond such alterations the Government could not go ; the object was to make the Castle a fit residence for his Majesty. The mode of asking for the money was such as was usual ; it had been pursued in that re specting the new Board of Trade the other night, where 17,0001. had been voted towards the walk. Mr. ELLICE would vote half a million, if it were shewn that it was wanted; but he was not for voting money till he knew what might be necessary according to the estimates of competent persons. He did not like the plan of saying that the architects must not go be yond such a sum; that they must " cut the coat accord ing to the cloth ;" fur they were told that they were to expend so much at all events. As to purchasing lands, why should not the Crown be required (or such purpose to sell its ground rents in the new street, &c. ? Many of the recent buildings had received and deserved con demnation ; but the exception flight to be extended to the new church at Chelsea —(year, hear). The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that as to exchanging Crown Lauds or Crown Rents, after the expenses of the department were paid, the balance was handed over to the Consolidated Fund. By such plan, selling the rents, they would dispose of sources of revenue. • ' Mr. CALCRAFT saw no •objection t 6 selling such property, as money was wanted; for the Crown ground rents at this, time were peculiarly saleable. He was favourable to making Windsor Castle a fit residence for the King ; but he should like to know how much would be wanted before he voted any sum. 'lf the Chancellor of the Exchequer would • pledge .hintself that no greater sum would be-wanted, he-would-agree to the vote. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER 5 16 4:, he would not embark in the expense till be knew - how, much w ou ld b e waste d. Lord MILTON sa id , • • this was a reason for support ing the A men d ment. If t h e Mi n i sters would donfithing till they knew the Estimates, why vote the. monex tla the plans were had ? • Mr, MA BERLY repeated, that the delay was *bite able, for the plans to be presented; or that the Ministers would pledge themselves to be answerable. Mr. Secretary CANNING,said, there appeared to be a general disposition to concur in the propriety of ilia trote;'and the voting of a specific sum be deemed to - be the best plan . . Mr. TIERNEY said there appeared to be- no estimate -. . .- THE EVENING - STAR. • LONDON. TUESDAY. APRIL 6, 1824. THE FUNDS. STOCK EXCHANGE, TWELVE O'CLOCK• Consols opened this morning at 9.5 i, for the Account, at which price rheybave remained steady up to this hour, with little fluctuation, and not much buriness doing. A great number of persons are in the Bank this morning, giving their assonts to the reduction of the Four per Cents. and it is sup posed there will not be twenty millions left out of the seventy.five millions of Four per Cents. FOREIGN FUNDS. There has been a good deal of business done this morning in Cu lombian, Mexican, and Chilian ; the former opened at 86 to 1, got up to 911rwhich was a rise of Ave per cent. but afterwards lowered again to 881. Currentl'rices:—New Spanish 17, Old 181, - Chilian 82/ 83, Mexican Scrip 81 Colombian 881 to 89, Austrian Scrip 17* to 1, rortu g uese 86 Russian 98 to 3, French Scrip 171, Greek 2 disc. New Prussian 993, Old 981 to 99, Affiance Shares 15. AUSTRIAN FUNDS. MARcu 22.-sletalliques 92 9-16. Bk. Sb. 1003. t. 23.—Bletalliques 92 Bk. Sh. 996. 2-3. PRICE OF STOCKS AT ONE O'CLOCK. • Bank Stocks 244% 244 ex. div. S per.(.,ent. Reduce,l9§ l / 2 95 ex. div. 8 per Cent. Consols 95% % 3 / 4 4per Cents. Old .101 4. 1 / 8 div. • pep Centt. New 197% 108=India Bonds 89s. 90s. OW Annuities 94 3 / 4 ..ez. div*. • Eackqueillills.(ll,oob) As. 565.—5ma11.545. 565. Bank for Acct. 248 A 1 4 —lndia r .Acct. 297 1 4 Comolsjor Aect.-945 . %. • • - • - 4.4iLOCKA . DE OF•ALGLERS; The following extract of a letter from the Agents to Lloyd!: at Leghorn, dated March 23, was posted this morning: . •• • • . . . 4 His Majesty's ship Cnaarxzaza arrived here the stst hitt. in eight days trans Algiers, which port was then blockaded by . the Mash, astd it was supposed only one Algeria,' ship of war was out.. , This vowel has given notice, that oti the 13th lost; she will convoy such vessels as are reidi'to the Westward; at present the following are the ships to accompany'hor :—Sisannon, JbLLY ; Levant packet, team , ; Witlianr; Rent Bovereivs, Zamarsssit, for Lon!. don Succeis, &tains, lot Mg ; 114 e, Lova, for Dublin Vtnu . . . . • .01.1. Am :maws, for Greenock; Menem* Mew, for Liverpool; 134aras, for Falmouth ; and Dart, WIIITt, with timber for th e Dock-yards. The convoy may wait a very short time Of Cape Co,, For any vessels that may reach from Genoa, where notice :s sent." Extract of a letter from the Agent to Lloyd's at Geno 2, dated 25th Nlareb ; A report has reached this place of the other vote! which had sailed from Leghorn, with naval stores,.bound to Algiess, having been captured by a British cruizer. By accounts from of the 13th inst. ap Algerine cruizer bad apreared a few days h t . fore off Cape Creus, and kept cruising tiff that station foeftwo da s . 4 letter from Civita Vecchia, of the 12th inst..leportk that z A Epglith vessel had been stranded 30 mites distant item:that p a;: , and two others near Ancona." • Fiankfort Papers, to the 80th ult. reached us t!, ; morning. O.ie of them contains the followinz article: " The Oriental Spectator, in one of its late. number has a very long string of reflections on the Greek surrcction, of which the following is the conclusion : The cause of the Greeks has still many.elifficultic: to-contend with : if we consider the unfortunate event:, that may occur, .it may be said, and will be often re peated., that the Greeks'have revolted twenty years too early ; that is, they had indeed cause to revolt, but that to do it with'complete snccess, they should have waited twenty years longer.' . , We have reason, however, for thinking otherwise. Without the unf4tunate impulse given to the insurrec tion by the singular circumstance which caused the re bellion. in Wallachia and Moldavia, the greelts would not have thought of raising the Stanclard of revolt ; and they would have thought of it still less twenty years hence. • Fur whit would they then - have.hnd to wish i? Property, consideration, privileges, iustitutiops-4.a kind of emancipation. But all this they alread.thid v in great" measufe, and would by degrees have obtained the remainder. Had they waited only a few years longer, their situation would have been so happy, tha t they would have been very cautious how they changed it. • The breath of retolution poisoned their prlsperity. After the many evils which they have brought on them; selves, what remains?—An uncertain hope s We copy the following art g icle from the Ghtsgo;* Courier of Saturday, a Journal which, faels very semi five on subjects connected with thei West. Indies. We confess e neither give implicit credit to the litareiLents, nor participate in the fears of the Colonists ; for; how ever impolitic the advocates _of unqualified aboliticr. may be in their endeavours to further their object, we are persuaded they do not seek to effect it by exciting insurrections: • '... ilikurow, A NW. S ! Nye have .retettett lky she taelthergssllOssl . is the °Si Yft'. terday, alio of Aquirtons iloossiclss, from *SM January to tl.o 13th_ FrbFesty hubris*. Pains milisinAsedeath - of Mr. Stalik*.l . <oBeieeri, .00 Mollie at formerly mentioned. 11tef Bold pl!t but gloom! grossest* for thi 'tranquillity jil that • Colony. Tbey . erste,llmtkaitUt4r SI ineandlary pakkeations in *bag the lilaves to revolt hlulid)kly• been transmitted from Essg. land, istsoduced into ttnt ol lo l fs'etirl secretly *vitiated amongst the Slaves. onte4 Itad. IsiseiNevinc:ed .-ansoo,gat the Ne groes oaths sig..coast,ar the pardonoetll 'nowt ions .ringkader he the late revolt, Jack Gladstone. The:y considered their country men who had suffered, as severely tut uninstty treated, sibile this man, who had misled and Instigated them to re4ok bad escaped,— Bur what is more alarming, they augur socoesi in a tatere attemrt f rom the fact of the removal of the Governor, the Witidiavral of , Colonel Linty of the 41st and' his troops, witi?..its,Preitniq down the revolt, and-front the reported and expected : removal cr Mr. lirruciar., the first Fiscal, in consequenie of orders from England ; which removals lid the egroei to believe that the vow- Mirth. in England were still their.friends„. These Papers contain some important evidence an the trials for, the late revolt, a portion of which we shall endeavour to lay before our Heaters in our next. The followtng extract froim the Paper of the I 3this all we can find room for to-day; . , • • et . DEMERARA GAZETTE. 1 !. We consider the •Unitect;Colony of Demerata and Essequebo, to be In a shore awful--in a more dangerous . situation at this yeii nassmeut, than during the beat, the uproar, and Cones/ion of the late innircection. We apprebesd that a crisis is approachitt;'which will require all our exertions—all our foresight, to avert aad this Settlement will speedily be the scene of a drama whlch,..withour the greatest caution s May possibly terminate In the'stestraaooll of all that is dearest either to our interests, or our hearts: Wlatthet we look forwSrd to what is it,ioc on at' home, or what . acting here; whether we turn to to the denupciating dispatches .of my Lord Bathurst, or to the indispensable sever*, of our Neva-Militia -Laws—we,still discover nothing in thi gloom, iv,hich can tend•to in spire us with satisfaction, or enliven us with hope.. Our energies ap pear to be exhausted. Our Spirits arc enervated and brekep down, and we seem to await, in silence and iu apathy; the storm which is to burst on our heads." It is stated in a pi ivateletter trim Paris, of sl4l . r t lay last, that an extraordinary courier had arrived frniii..lita drid, on his svay to England, with dipPaitchei for out: Government. These dipatclies are said to be accom panied with an autograph letter from FERDINAND to his Britannic MAJESTY, on the subjeCt the - recognition of South AMerican Independence. theltliOsters of his Catholic MAJESTY, having failed inconvincing Mr. CANNING of the propriety of meeting the Holy Alliance in Congress, to settle the relations between Spain and the new trans-Atlantic States which formerly .acknow ledged her dominion, FERDI NAND himself, appeali from the Minister to the Sovereign, and tries, as a lait re sourceAls gentle persuasion on the niind of GEonCE IV. 'urging him to consent to the proposed diplomatic meet ing as soon as possible, and telling him that a refusal to join in the solicited mediation must be considered as a formal declaration in favour .of the party opposed to Spain, a calamity" he:hopes still to avert.. ' • CharlestiM Papers7 mi tre7%rs March arrived this morning. The following are the only articles they con fain worth. qudting : • - - _ HAVANNAH, FEBRTJARY 4. ' • Od the night of the Slst ultimo, the United States schooner FOX went ashore in this harbour, Whim she now lies, but no doubt she will begot off.• The English -force 'now in ads port is quite formidable;•and they have given ever) , aisistanqesowards getting off the Fox : it consists of the . Gloucester (74), Hyperion and tyramus . • . ~~~ at all i yet, if their plans were determined upon, what Was more easy than to'ascertain the expense of the re• pairs, and the purchases for avenues ? that for furniture might not be so easy. Perhaps the 300,0001. might mike the Castle uncomfortable—then what Mere they to do? ' They would be asked for more money. Where could be the difference or the-harm if they were to wait for the estimate ?—(fical,hear.) Lorj MILTON said the Members were changing places—the Ministers were not prepared to embark in the undertaking, hut the Members were to begirt. Mr. G. BENNET observed, that the works were begun, whether there were estimates or nnt—(liear). The Queen's Palace, for instance, was pulled down. L-he had seen it—he would swear it, that it was &Volt— (Cheers and laughter). He also condemned the pri vacy which characterized the new plans at Windsor. The Park could not be closed 'entirely, beet the Terrace had been closed, which he proclaimed to be a great public inconvenience —(Hear, hear). He had viewed with satisfaction, in common with other portions of the public, the old King walking amongst his people.— . Nothing of the kind was now beheld, fle lamented the change, and the privacy that was pursued. The gallery was cleared for a division. For.the Motion ... . For the Amendment ... . 54 Majority for the Vote .. Lord PALMERSTON, on the re-admission et stran gers, was about to move some grant. Mr. HUME said, that the main question about the Castle had not been put. Mr. BROGDEN observed, that he had complied with - the impatience of the Committee, and had put the main question, which had been adopted—(Hear). Lord PALMERSTON moved grants of 197,00 W. forthe disembodied militia of England, and 97,0001. for the disembodied militia of Ireland.—.. Read, and agreed to.—Report 10-morrow. NEW CHURCHES. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Churches' Building Acti be referred to a Committee. Mr, Hosts asked what was the object of the Commit. tee?—The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, .to move the 500,0001. to be issued to the Commissioners for the building of New Churches in populous places, of which he had given notice the other night ; also in the general statement of the Finances. Mr. Husswid sufficient and regular notice had not been given.---Mr. Husxissos observed, that this was the proper course, to go into a Committee, to see whe ther anything ought to be done. Mr. HOBHOUSE had been taken quite by surprise. He had expected that the appropriation of 500,0001.f0r building churches—a " profligate grant," as it had been termed—had been abandoned for the presoßt. If this part of the " GoD-send" were tube expencled, he should propose that it be expended according to Mr. Pitt's, sttg gestion, in buying up 500,0001,. worth of rotten boroughs.. Mr..l. SMITH said, he had expected that the vole would be brought forward ; but he was against this mode of expending the money in the building of new Churches. The measure was not called for by the people they were ready to build prates of worship for them selves ; but this might not be objected to, if the no,mi nation to the Churches were in the districts. He ob jected to this appropriation of the money as unjust. The first object was to educate the poor, if they wereto be comfortable and contented ; and the education of the Irish as will as English poor, ought to be the object of this expenditure,- if the sum-were-to be expended. He protested against the whole of this measure, as impro vident and unjust, After some remarks from different Members, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, as the accounts had only been delivered that morning, ,if it were so wished he had rto desire to press the motion now—( Hear).—He would postpone it till Friday. The Committee was postponed till L'riday next accordingly. The Woollen Exportation and Importation Bill was read a se cond time, after ISIr. Cuarns had objected that the interests of his Constituents were not sufficiently protected. Mr. S. WORTLEY postponed the further consideration of the Game Laws Amendment Bill till to-morrow. The Bankrupt Laws'Amendment Bill went through a Commit tee, having had the blanks filled up, and some amendments made to it—Report to-morrow. • The remaining Orders having been disposed of, the House ad jimmied at Twelve o'Llock.. t: th , tit of it a de is • pi is • ei by c;1 'a 'r P I 'II 3 ' a I c i l , J