Star. — London, England, 1819-06-11 00:00:00

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WOOD stated the Petition to have been ear :, 1, 4 -, )1.. yllssentieht voice in the Common Council, and ~.• s oti-.1 it to he not merely the Petition of the Common hYr hoc they represented had called upon the Mem i',mrt to vote as they did on this Occasion, and it regarded is coming from the great body of fe.iring this Bill would deprive them of an lm ' of trade, which they at present enjoyed, and i!,:tit ought not to be sacrificed to the designs of l;ht ry ~f South America.—The Petition was or r• P.k 1.31 ER presented a Petition from Beading 0 : • V. Enliitinent Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table. ioNT i W 10 presented a Petition to the same effect ()syn. !, of lianisgate.—Ordered to lie on the table. v ctiN tiIIEVE presented a Petition from the Ship •.: PlYmoutli against the Foreign Enlistment Bill.—Or lie .):; the table. I was presented from a Borough in the county of •abt the l'orcign Enlistment Bill.—Ordered to lie on precertM a Petition from the Inhahi .,,t, in inland, agairst the Foreign Enlistment Bill. • ••• on the table. \ET presented a Petition from the City of Ito . ,;1 :he Foreign Enlistment Bill ; and observed, that o: his Constituents were unanitnotts against a Bill, irh was to form an unnatural let.gtie with the ! ro.titi.tit..! against the Colonists of South America, itt it w.,s vt:r interest to form a friendly conntxtion. I ; wi'hed that the Petition should Le received, :.ittle; tint-, was decidedly hostile to the player of it. or;lettc.l to lie on table. ~ r AI -. 7 , ted a Petition from the Inhabitants of the , l'•‘! . far the Foreign Enlistment Bill. Ile er.tirt. ly concurred in the prayer of the Petition, th.it of the Bill now before the !louse would ; .1.. !Ile 3:1:0 ions of the people of South America from and ordered to he on the table. .‘ It K N BU LL presented a l'etition trt • from the Inhabitants of Deal.—Ordcred to lie C ',CRAFT presented a Petition from Dover against Bill.—Ordered to be printed. 11.snotralde Member likewise presented a Petition from t•r..t:u tht ,ame eilect.—Ordered to be printed. ! n•ros presented a Petition from Sunderland Foreign Enlistment Bill, which he prefaced by some c-Tt•e.iive of his own opinio:: of that Bill as co-opera geocral depression of trade, and the imposition of tAses tn the distress and ruin of the country.—The n as n.-::ired, and ot•dcred to be printed. C. CAIN pltur presented a Petition from the !nimbi :he Borough of Southwark against the Foreign Enlist- .II.CR .1 FT thought thou• of his Majesty': 'Ministers the business of that 11 )use ought . to . 11 : 2 prest•nt, to 7::11 situa•ico of the couhtry trini tle?. Petitions brought cor..itierittion. Were th to hear thew, some of ... , er..:hes on the flourishing state of the country might hive if, 1. . 3 1 . ‘. TAYLOR regretted that his Majesty's Ministers wt win.:l these Petition , were piesented, as they pereeiee from them how ge:.erai was the opposition of wntry to the measure in question. I.I.:.SIIINGTON said, that his 7sliale;ty' Ministers were it, :hi: feeling of the coniitry on the sylljuct, and .hey were ev Iliiip that the qiy_ostiati should reo•ive the discussion.—The rettri..: was then read, and ordered to inted. BIRCII presented a Petition from 1..: :llerclianti of against the PCreign Enlistment t•lo) ips were 110 W Waiting in the port of Cadiz, to t,:snvel troops to South America, and that a proceetliiq; of to. , :ould not be consonant with an impartial neutrality.—The on was read, and ordered to lie on the table. ie ATTORNEY GENERAL moved the Order ie Day for the House to resolve itself into a Corn :ee on the Foreign Enlistment Bill. Alderman WOOD sta:ed that he held in his a Petition from certain inhabitants of the City :estminster, praying that the Foreign Enlistment now before the House might not pass into a law, !ng contrary to the feelings and liberty of the 'cct.—The Petition was received, read, ordered to the table, and to be printed. • P SPEAKER then put the question for his leaving Clair. olonel DAVIS mentioned, that as an erroneous wession had gone abroad, he found it necessary orreJ the mistake. It could not be denied, that Noble Lord (Castlereagh) and others had in sinii questios been guided by the policy and usage ich had been'established for more than a century a half, and yet they now came forward to over the principles which had been sanctioned and !d upon by their ancestors. It was extraordinary although no treaty approximating in any way Lhe effect now wanted existed, the Noble Lord and Colleagues, to gratify the beloved Ferdinand, )posed a measure disgraceful to our councils as a ion: If Spain affected to claim the facilities which re now about to be granted by the British Go inment, the Honourable Member insisted that the :duct of Ferdinand, ever since his return to Spain, itled him to no such courtesy or indulgence al this cOuntry—(Hear, hear.) Since that me able event, the whole career of Ferdinand had :n a series of aggressions against this country.— Merchants had been wantonly imprisoned by n. zr•.d the commerce between Spain and England :any annhilated. Was it to such a Prince, governed tr.c ca:rice or prejudice of the moment, that we yield the dignity of our Nation, and the in of our Parliament ? Remonstrances had r , :tde to him in vain, on behalf of t he British r. so abominably treated. Instead of obtain ir or a mitigation of personal inflic our remonstrances produced only the renewal aggre , iions, with every bitter aggravation of 1 .! lly• Ohe would scarcely suppose that similar could be adopted even under the most de \iC Govetnment. A letter from Mr. Simpson, -a .!ent F,nglish Merchant in the Capital of Spain, FIAT the gratitude of Ferdinand fur the set ct this country. In the year 1816, his dwelling was'entered in the night-time, and his papers s! goods seized, and Mr. Simpson himself sent to Under the false pretext that he was a dealer in :1-aband goods ; but he had the authority of Mr. - :pscn for saying, that he was ready to make affi drnying the truth of the allegations, and main , - '!ng that he had never dealt in contraband goodi. e-en if he had dealt in contraband goods, that r:.ts no excuse for this violation now mentioned. ti tats with Foreign Powers at peace with .. ' - glanj, the house of a British Merchant resident road was deemed sacred. The Noble Lord (Castle k;tows, that the trade with England had been 7tlibitcd by Ferdinand, and that any attempt to -Pt effect was punishable with death. The absurdity he two Acts of George 11. was evident. By the !'-v Act, fifty or sixty Officers now serving in South - 7..i?rica would be rendered liable to felony. But the t Freedom which animated these men induced them to rtin eery risk in so glorious a cause. Two red at the Prince reg ent's Levee vet in thhaedmiailitt appeared military uniforms of the South American Ritricits, and actually took leave in the - very same= reginientahl—(H ear, hear, with laughter.)—No event could prove so beneficial to England as the emanci pation of S out h A mer i ca. It would be an ad mirab le source pf commerce in favour of this country. But by the Treasury Hates which had been circulated, the Ministers were in earnest to serve Ferdinand, and to support the new p o l icy of the Legitimates ! (I/ear, hear, hear.) Mr. ROBINSON had no hesitat ion allowing , that in that if the arguments of the last speaker were well founded, there was suffi • cient cause for going to war. Notwithstanding the odium attempted to be thrown on the Spanish Government, •and en hi s Majesty's Ministers„ the house would acknowledge that the measure was not only proper, but justifiable. He pro tested against the insinuations towards hit - Majesty's Government, that they were not sincere in the adop tion of the measure. The honour and good conduct of this country were deeply involved •in the Bill now proposed. What he said sufficient weight with some Gentlemen - on the oppo site side of the house; but he declared to GOD that he thought the measure necessary, • and that he him self, as well as those with whom he had the honour. of acting, were perfectly sincere on the occasion— kar, hear.) A general denial' of the rectitude of a particular policy did not prove a hostility to freedom in any quarter of the world. If he understood the question, it regarded the propriety of our supporting the Act of Neutrality between this country and a Power with whom we were now at peace. The. vio lotion of that neutrality was not only •an offence against the Common Law, but an offence against the Law of Nations. In support of the Bill, a reference was made to the Proclamation Of 1816, when military officers, and those on half pay had been prohibited from engaging in the service of the South Americans. One would have supposed that this would have check ed any violation of the neutrality; but, in the course of time, fleets and armies were equipped from our ports ; and persons acting as agents were found ready to enlist regiments as soon as disbanded. Under such circumstances, could the Spanish Government look on with indifference?—( /ear, hear).—He knew very well wheii the passions were excited, it was easy to bring those passions into play; but he thought it very culpable to permit our prejudices or passions to bias decisions or questions• of the first national im portance. It has been used as an argument, that the measure proceeds from the suggestion of a Foreign Power ; and that therefore it ought to be resisted by Parliament. Were such an argument well-founded, it would be a sufficient cause for exciting the jealousy and indignation of the House. But the measure was founded on other principles. It was for the mainte nance of that neutrality which had been unwarrantably violated by the subjects of this country. Between that supposed suggestion and the remonstrance of Bonaparte against the Liberty of the Press of Eng land there was a strong analogy. To gratify Bona-• parte by checking the liberty of our press, it would !lave been disgraceful had Ministers come down to the Rouse, in obedience to the dictates of Bonaparte, to have proposed a Bill to that effect. One case bore a close analogy to that now under discussion. In the year Fiat, a treaty was entered into between Eng land and the United States of America, in which there was a clause prohibiting . the Government of either country from allowing their respective subjects to enlist in the service of Powers at peace with either nation. This was an Act for the maintenance of neutrality between the two Powers; and the United States passed an Act in support of the principle.— To bring the analogy to bear—Suppose the subjects of the United States equipped ships against our pos-, sessions in the Vest Indies, and suppose we deman ded a redress for this violation of neutrality, if the American Government refused it, there Would be a just cause for war—(Hear, hear.)— r The conduct of Sir George Mazgregor and his followers was unjustifiable in every respect, and might be compared to that of buccannen s and pirates. Some persons might say, that such proceedings would be productive of great advantages to commerce ; but he could only view such acts as gross violations of the Law of Nations, and open acts of robbery—(Hear.)—The sensibilities of the human mind were laudable ; and he by no means condemne4 those who were actuated by such motives. The Honourable Member declared that he was not insensible to feelings in favour of liberty ; and he could not blame such noble impressions with out violating the operations of his own heart—( Hear, hear, and loud cheeping.)—But it was necessary that 'we should not sacrifice our national interest and ho nour for feelings founded in error. If nations kdew that we were govbrned by such passions or feelings, the politicalline of obligation would suffer, and other states would be less 'careful in their conduct towards us—(Hear, hear.)ln no period of our history was the maintenance of peace more desirable than that which we now witnessed—( Hear, hear.) --Some Gen-' tlemen attempted to console us by assurances; that what we lost in the Old we might find in the New WOrld. Do they think that the countries alluded to would be more apt to confide in us by a violation of neutrality ? No. It would not only arouse theii• appre- hensions and fears, but tend to destroy those inesti mable bonds on which our peace and harmony mainly depended—f Loud cheering.) Sir .J.AMS MACKINTOSH said, he did not rise to oppose the motion for the Speaker's leaving the Chair, as he was aware there might be a convenience in proceeding into that stage of the measure. Against the measure itself, however, he entertained the most determined hostility , Plating . the question on the fair ground of our duty to maintain perfect neutra lity, he would attempt to shew that the Bill under, the consideration of the House, with the exception of the first clause, was a complete breach bf that neutra lity: It proclaimed war against the liberties bf Ame rica—it proclaimed war against the commerce of England—and it was a departure from that impar tiality which was unquestionably due to both the bel ligerents respecting whom it had been introduced. Denying, as he did, the claim of a fereign Govern ment to require from us the adopt idn of any such proposition, he would not oppose it on that ground--- he would not oppose it, because if adopted, it would be the first instance in which an Act had been writ ten in the British Statute-book by a Spanish Ambas sador—( Hear hear, hear). His oppositions would be * rounded on a mere general principle; He perfectly q site, are du d a tb So th vergn the e. • • Right Honotitable Gentleman oppo- things, give to the in Spanish Pro - since l .T.- - had a right to regulate the con-. meant a supply of transports for the oprpose of con. duct of his subjects with respect to inffiiithial;Stattea veaing troops across the Atlantic. Wow theie wai t Th ion at in 1817, had been asserted by the itoyal - Pruelimaa provision whatever in the Bill to preterit t British disobedience to which was a misde- subjects from supplying Spain with such transPorts— meanour, punishable •is such by the eonmion law, a most flagrant instance of anti-neutral spirit in the 'but to go further—when by the common law;' the framers of the measure-a(Heaa, heartlut what, means existed of punishing 'a breach of neuttality, to indeed, 'could be a more grosadeparture front nett eitact a measure faioutible in • its teedeacy to one trality thin that evinced in the 'Treaty aont•Juded party alone, *as, hi itself, the groSteSt violation of with Spain in 1814, in which Treaty . sentence was neutrality. In what did neutrality cOnsist? First, in 'pronounced by the British Government between Spain the abstinence of a Government from affbrding aid to and het South American subjects, who were stigma either of two belligerent parties. 2dly, in the impar- tised as traitors and rebels=-(Hear, hear).—To adopt tiality of the laws as respecting twobelligerent parties. the proposed Bill would be to repeat and to re-pro. Let the two Statutes of George the Second be re- nOttnce that sentence of rondenination on the cause of pealed, and England.would 'instantly, and without the Spanish Provinces. It had been contended that any additional proceeding, be placed in• a state of the Bill was fOitreled on the Ti City. A frank complete impartiality towards the belligerents. The sion of its real character ! For what neutral measure present measure therefore was an act of supereroga- could by possibility be founded on a measure of such tion. tt was more—it was confessedly introduced decided and uncalled for anti-neutrality ?—(ifcar). at the instance of Spain, and for the convenience and It was the oloservanCe of neutrality on the part of the benefit of Spain'alone—(Hear, hear, hear.) A Right state that lie was advdcating. Neutrality in the fedi Honourable. Gentleman had adverted to the inter- ings of individuals was impossible. In a contest be ference of Napoleon with respect to the press of this twee t% Pnperfaition ind tyranny on the one side, and a country in the year 1802. Btit what was the answer hope or even a chance of liberty on the other; never to that interference? Did any man dare to reply, that could his heart be neutral—(Hear.)--The solicitude because it was probable that a Jury or this country which the merchants of this country had manifested would acquit a libeller of Napoleon, that therefore it for the South American cause, had been imputed to should be proposed to the British Parliament to sus- interested motives. Without indulging in commons pend the Trial by Jury ?—(Hear, hear, heap.) In the place declamation against politicians, he would hdw present instance, was it because English heeling; had ever say, that in his opinion the interest of merchants been Manifested in the support of the cause of liberty coincided'rnore frequently with the interest - of man -in South Amerieie that the Government of Spain kind, than did the transient and limited views - of po -should be complimented by a surrender of the neu- liticians: If British merchants looked with'eager trality which we were bound to observe? It was no ness Le the event of the struggle in South America, more to be tolerated, that hostility on the part of in- no doubt they did so with the- hope of deriving' act dividuals to the oppression of Ferdinand should be vantage from that event. But was it nn the main suppressed, than hostility on the part of the press to tenance of ignorance, on the confirmation of slavery, the oppression of Napoleon. If such demands were on the establishment of tyranny in America that they once admitted, there would be no end to them.— founded their hopes ? ! Those were the expec 'To preserve our neutrality no Act was now ne ccs- tations of Ferdinand. It Was on the successful asser sary, because the existing law was sufficient for the tion of freedom ;—yes, of freedom—that parent of purpose. It was indeed singular, that to such a na- all good !—that parent of industry !—that parent of tion as the British e -a nation which had so long talent la-that parent of heroism !—that parent of flourished in security and glory by maintaining the every virtue !—(Loud cries of Hear, and cheediiig.)—. principles of justice and liberty-'-no - such proposi- The fate of SOufh America would be accessary to the tion as the present had ewer before been made.— wealth Of British merchants only as it become acres= Until the -present period, no belligerent had ever saryato the dignity and happiness of the raced' Man! ventured to request a favour which England was --.4Hear,llear.)—There was one topic connected with now called upon to grant to Ferdinand-a Sovereign this quettiOn which' had always struck hint as pecu on whom he would !State* no -epithets, because it liarly interesting. A mong the titles which Ferdinand was impossible by any epithets which the English VII. seethed in the-eyes of his Majesty's Ministets to language could afford, to add to the feeling which eoistikto" the interference:of in =his behalf, the mere utterance of hianame excited - (Hear, hear). he wiSlied to know if the Noble Lord oppositii.reckoned Never before had this country been asked tb make a his teddy compliance with'that'Noble Lord's request change in its ancient institutions for the benefit of fOr the release friiire confifiement • of thosi of one belligerent. The Honourable and Learned den- Great Britain aiid-lattriots of SpaiialahOhad incurred tleman here described . a variety of instances - in our his Saaeteign displeasure ?a- ( flear,hear, hear): Pata. history, in which this country had strictly pies&ved hainent had been tnrd:of repeated aPOliations Navin her neutrality between.belligerents,but had not con- iseen made bithe British Govermisent for - the re sidered a recruiting for those belligerents, as any lease orthee ' Still, however; breach of that neutrality; especially in the reign of Arguelles lingeislied dungeon! The Noble James I. when an application on the part of Spa i n to Lord had 'assured the Muse that: the assembled Ma; prevent such a practite, was rejected by the enligh- lestrof Europe laid tilde* interceded for him,. but - tined Ministers _of that day—the scholars of the il- had' interceded in vain! Let . thi'Noble Lor d lustrious Elizabeth. • Even at the time *hen Gondi- ffiembera-or at leastlet-nof that Ilonse forgetillet mar might be almost said to have been a kind of ;whit Ferdinand had • done foe-Money, was gratuity 'Viceroy from Spain in this cotlntra, when •he had. ously accorded by Arguelles !--tthat l'hat Ferdinand; sufficient power to cause the murder of that mast dis- after long negotiation, consented truly partially - to re ' tinguiehed person, who united in himself' tnorekinda ettain,.:Areuellet prevailed: on tire-Cortes instantly, of glory than had perhaps ever . been combined in an universally, •and • for ever abolish !—(Hear, hear; ; - je individue—that soldier, that sailor, that 'historian, Imo, And Raving introduced the sub ct .Of the I that poet, that sta esman, Sir Walter Raleigh—he Slave Trade, be could not fefraiii from calling cei the was unable to obtain from us such a boon as that Muse' to consider What-Was due to all the Giiverna' which his Majesty's Ministers no* called on the - meats fehnidedhy the revolted Provinces ofpanish HOuse of Commons of England to have the con- America, for havlneWithon6:consent, descension to grant—(Cries of Hear, hear, hear)— standing the prejudices which in common R-it3i all It Was a boon which, if granted, would afford a most Colonies they must• have entertainer in' iti - favour; convenient precedent to all the Despotic Myers of put an end to a traffic which arasitill'clietished io the earth. • With what authority would they, thence- Europe, and which, io the eternal' disgrace of one forward, urge British Ministers to a compliance with nation in particular, was stiltalung t6 . by thatnitidn their wishes? With what unaswerahle force would with the utmost tenacity and fondness—Wee:r, h4aq. they say, " You granted this to Spain, and- you He Would trespass on the Hoitse with only tiae fur. granted it when Spain was under the dominion of then observation. He had-called the Leaders'of the Ferdinand VII.' on what ground can yoWyeithhold it Spanish Coites the Allies of Great Britain'. What from us ?—(Hear, hear, hear.)" He therefore called Must be the feelings of any miaaelna read the in: on the House to secure all future Ministers from 'the • seription on the French intatar tafen after the raising danger—from the disgrace of such solkitations.-Dan of the siege of Cadiz, presented` 4 die Coates to his gerous and degrading Would it Indeed be, if Ferdi- Royal Highness the Prince Regatta, and placed' by nand VII. could• prevail on an assembly of BritiSh his Royal Highness's command in a'acinspicMattasitu. Gentlemen to establish a precedent, which would 'ation in the Metropolis? ' • • - subject the British Government to be dictated to iA • '"--Devletif a Wellington Duce prtrie galimahiain WIN; %t perim So i l u r posttam bombard.itn, viprr dit *lbw -Wand/al utae exliideGadium obsidigne bane Tiara iiteieine future times by persons—if any such there c ould p os- 4 , sibly be—resemblinghim in character—(Near, hear.) "Ad urbem portuinque Caditanum destruendum. condatatn, Was it for such a purpose that we were to change aEt a Copal turbigis retict.rm, Cortex Hispanics, pestinieunt our ancient institutions? To any such change, Mi- n • • •• haudgoaquam • " . Be eficionam obli . ti figurate venerationis testbnonlo donagerunt (;con 1,, us BRIT. Pante. nisters had generally expressed extreme aversion-- there was one rice in, those institutions, which " - • • • taut in perpetuam rei memoriam hoc loco pooendam, et his they were always ready when called upon to reform ; " orraineatis dedorandim juesit." • _. their want of resemblance to the principles by which —We had thus accetaed a trophy, - in 'CoMmemora despotic States were regulated—(Hear, hear, hear.) tion of a glorious victory, presented to us by Our Happy Would they be to be enabled to comply with brave Allies, who had associated with their owe the wishes of the Ambassadors of such States. Ilappy name the name of our greatest and niast'reitowned would they be to be able, while they expressed; with Captain, by rthenn that victoryl n ad been achieved— courtier-like smile, their admiration of the - character a trophy expreisive of their gratitdde and affection, of that ornament of Sovereignty, that•Marcus•Aure- and which had been received and treated with the lius of Spain, to add an immediate acquiescence to respect and attention doe - to it ; and yet, at thi's very his application: The roughness in the British Con.: moment, -those braie and illustrious men were fan stitution, which rendered such amiable conduct diffl- gulshieg in the dungeons of thaePrinc'e, whose cause cult, must be polished. Our usages Must be approxi- a Biitish Parliament was now 'called upon to espouse! mated to those of Foreign Governments. Ministers ( The fronotirdle Gentleman concluded anrost brilliant: had already obtained an Alien'Aet : they now called dryad eloquent speech amidst the loud and long i•okinued on Parliament to refine the laws in other respects, cheering of the' House.) • and to make them more agreeable to his Catholic) Ma. CANNING acknowledged the eloqiience of Majestv ( Hear, hear.) —Instead of the conduct 1 the IlOiottrable Gentle Man who had just sat chxsen, which they had pursued o n this occasion, why did whilst he trusted it-wohld not have the effecCof mis-; they not imitate the example afforded them by Lord I leadingthe House to-night. 'lt was not for the Ilouse Liverpool, when, in the answer which, in a manner Ito look to the character of Ferdinand upon the ques so highly honourable to him, he made to the appli- tion ; but to see how far the proposed measure was cat i on of Napoleon to limit the freedo m of the Press, called for by, the circumstances of the case. He can_ he said, " You mistake th e law of En g land. It is not ; tended, however, that the tot tes were more dispo s ed in the power; if it were in the inclination of a Mini- ; to fix the yoke of slavery on the Colonies than Fer ster, to do what you require." But as they had not i - dinand; and insisted , that the Treat y now s ubsisting done so, he trusted that P arliament would su pp ly ; between this country and Spain ought to be religiously the deficiency. He trasted that that House would' ehseired, and strictly carr ied into execution. Whe-; exclaim with the brave Baroas of former days, •' No - tber the pro visio n s of this Treaty were, or were not, hiatus loges Anglia m utari ! "—( Hear, hear, hear.) exeeptienabte; he did' not take upon himself to de einhathde h i i n th fl e e r x t i e bi a li e t q a u d ie r se m e •l ct ii , ch all e d ae h rY e ' c c o id n e co. ; r b m n t 4b e l n;. e ‘t t ;. h ti 'e l o h u a r d g b i e p c o, n d th subscribed, to • Th Pow iy er w in er e laws, ur p instance: Bend, however, they would, if the served, • hoped that they would not be found to bend in the forced. . I The R ie ig l h a t w H i : 6 lll.ll e i x a is b t l i e ng Ge p n a t i l d em m ; pres ent ßill before the House shoul d unfortdnately be adoeted.l neutiality, as it permitted British t roops If any additional proof * ere wanting of its partiality, 'service of' pn - e. of the Bellterents,while mere repeal of the Act p arGeorge Spain, but Which she coul d not, from the nature of —there n th o e t'enlis . i tind e r the banners . : of the ether; h h is u e e o g ns lan i d e d r a c t e i u 6 I n d : i w t as might: one b ort der Of ed aid fro w m hic t tend, •ol its( to the imp ar t ia l p reserver . 1 1 • I 1,, I' I • 1. .1 . IP I' . , they ought, be duly en- nan then ob- no regard to to enter the e they could ; nor would the Second idol a Lieu-