Star. — London, England, 1824-02-17 00:00:00

a . Sir W. LEMON presented a Petition from the Perish of Myvor, in the County of Cornwall. praying for the repeal of the Duty on Coals carried coastwise. Lord STANLEY presented a similar Petition from the Town and Neighbourhood of Vlverstone, in Lancashire. Sir C. HA WKINS presented a similar Petition from the Bo rough of St. Ives, ht Corninn. Sir I KNA TCHBULL presented a similar Pelithin feint i Prish Jo s tler County of Kent.. Str T, ASK!. AND presented .five Petitions with the like prayer from Ilfracombe, and four other Pa/Weis - in the County of Divot,. Captain 3 STA RI) preeented two Petitions of the same purport, fru% ll* 41 and another Parish in the County of Devon. • A similar Petition was presented troM the Town of Staines. Sir T. LET tl SRI DGE presented a similarSetition from the' Town of Minehead, in the County of Somerset. A similar Petition was pres..ntA from Horsham., Mr. PORTMAN presented a similar petition firorn Portland. •' Sir E. HA RVEY presented Petirionseo the same purport from Roniford. and Laytonstone, in the County of Essex. These Petitions were severally ordered to be printed. Mt. Alderman WOOD moved for returns of the number of Barrels of Ate and Beer brewed In Scotland during the fast year. — r Or dered. • Mr. F. LEWIS mid he had been requested - by his Right Hon. Friend (the Master of the Mint). - who was prevented from attend ing in his place by illness, to request the Honourable Baronet whom notice of a .I , lotion respecting the Coin of the Realm stood for this evening, to postpone it to mine evening In next sverk, when he pro- 1 bably would be enabled to attend. Sir J. W ROTTESLEY, in eompikusee with the request of the Hon. Member, postponed his Motion to Wednesday Knight. ' USURY. On the Motion for reading the Order of the Day fol the second reading of the Usury Laws Repeal Bill, Mr. DAVENPORT rose to oppose the• Motion. The' repeal of the existing laws for regulating the interest of money would, he contended, be in- the highest degtee injurious to the owners of landed property ; for it would thereby be rendered absolutely impossible for the pos sessors of from 20 to 300 acres of land, to borrow at all when money was scarce. The Bill might raise fhe rate of interest, bin could not possibly lower it. Its effects would be entirely in favour of the lender, and against the borrmser ; and as he felt more for the boirower, he moved as an amendment that insteadofthe word , enow," the words " thin day six months" be substituted. ' Mr. B. COOPER censured the 13111 as contrary to the principle of the law relating to - insurance and other commercial contracts of the like nature. He was con vinced the pasiing of the Bill would throw open the door, to fraud and injustice, and he therefore seconded' the A qiendment. . ' • The SPEAKER said he wished to impress upon the' mind of the Honourable Member who had moved the Amendment, that the original question was that,the' Order of the Day be read, which must be done before the Bill could be disposed of in any way. Mr. CALCRAFT said he apprehended the intention of his Him. Friend to be to oppose, not the reading of the Older of the Day, but the second reading of the Bill. Mr. DAVENPORT assented. Tne Order of the Day was then read, and • Mi. Serjeant ONSLOW moved that the Bill be now read a second iiine. - • .. • . - Mr. DAVENPORT moved his Amendment as before. Mr. B. COOPER seconded the •Amencltnent; and the gallery . wai ordeikel to be cleared for a diVision ; when Mr. IRON Ilne aid said, after the very strong man ner in which the Honourable 'Membe!s opposite had ex. piiiied theinselVes in Op`positirn'i to the 13i11, he should be song 'that it 'slionld go to a diVision without some eiplarration of the grounds en which it was-supported. Two facts had keep stated which he wished to have ei- Pained i it wa, stated that this measure was contrary to the law of'the land; now if he (Mr. flume) knew any thinl at.ili cif the principles which formed 'the basis of the conrne,cial law df this - cchnitry, it .way that the reAt i e4 lifietit y 'of bargaining was allowed toerery indi vldittlz-(lleitt). And ihe 'greatest Advantages which 'ails 'country ever derived mar illy Administration+ ft* the fait thirty years, were those which theentight ined policy Of• the pie-Ulu Miniiters *as 'about to &Infer upon ii, by acting aPolt 'the freeit principles of trade—(Hear, kqr),-4 was else stated that Under. writers mere prevented from 'charging more than a car• tarn interest upon 'policies of insurance, but this fact he doubted. The prinCiple of the insurance lan-wens to leaved die 'rate or pi emiiim cif inSurariCe 'unffied : 'and eckeid ingly, as the linninfrisbli Member Welkkiiew. o'l:ate of premium might be demanded, and it is often raised from two to fi fty per cent. and on the same principle the r ate of interest on money advanced ought also to he left Own to arrangement between- the parties. The! Hon. Mover of the Amendment he was convinced had -.rite mistaken the tendency of the measure, .then he 70eieribet1 it as injurious to the landed proprietor. k WaslO the adVantage of all 'parties that transactions oil -this nature should be free and Open. -. TheLought al ways to be such as would bear the light, and if any. thing fraudulent or unjust crept into them it ought to be punished, and mig ht be so by 'the coninion law.— e l There was, therefore, no necessity for - the . coritinitanc . , .of these Statutes ; on the contrary, they were mischiev..' Ous in principle and ruinobs in, Operation; and if 'ever theie was a time-more p roper than ano th er for removing ' them froth theStiibie Book, it was now, when the ac tial sate of interest on money was lower than it had rier been known. tit 3. WrItOTTESL'Eir said, when it was proposed to alter the policy of these laws, Which led been so long in existence, and to remove all restrictions upon the rate df interest on money lent, it was at least to be expected that some better reason would begiven for the change than that of the actual rate Of iiitereit being 'so low as three and a half per cent. while the law allowed five to be taken. What could be the abject, in such a state of the motley market, for bringing forward *this measure, ' he could not imagine; the only effect whiCh he could anticipate was the laying ,of a trap for young'and unwary • eipectants of fortunes to borrow. As it resp s ected the landed interests of the country, every one knew that retailed estates which diseendeil to the eldest son, charged with piovisions for the younger - branches of the fainify and marriage portions 'for the females, must necessarily be more or lees ibiirthened with mortgages, which could only be paid off by 4serrowing. As the law now stood, the holder of such an estate, Seising money Upon redeemable annuities for that pur pea, was enabled to do so upon such terms as left it in :Lis power to re - 110in them without much difficulty. But if those laws,were repealed, the rate of interest, no longer fixed, would be liable to continual change, and the holder of in estate would -never know what he should have tn Offer the redemption. Another serious consideration was the probable effect of this Bill upon, the entinflicturing interests—that great and important body, that t .11lee employment and, activity to the in dustry of :die country. HOW would it be possible for a inanufactpser to 'borrow motley, if landed ptoprie. tots, who had the lotat.description of security to offer, were allowed to live 'a h,, : -rate of interest ? What would have been the .condition oit-the country during '''. 5 1111.1111111..111111 10.- 4 `' ~• • p the last war, but fdr the exigft_git of these laws the Bill proposed torepeall flbtWithstabding ten ainthge of the security of 4oveniffit* Svc! any t , prirate individuals Ohld bffir, hod * ate 4 of intert been unfixt;d, the GoVernilient wouldOttfotind it in •poisible t'o rail* the large sums retterwed defrayin . the expenses of that war, except at a rate of interest so enormont at the public revenue tite country' won! not at this moment have been able to pat. The fair nronei. dealer would, by the repeal/of these laws ) be thrown out of the market , by th 4 0 stortioner and the usurer. It was calculated to ruin ndecl interest, to starve the manufacturer, and to . zgai are GbeernMent ; I trusted, therefore , that the House would giiattl again • evils of so serious a description, by rejecting the melt i sure hi -Might forward by the Learned Serjeant. . - Mr. J. SMITH said the laws against usury were 111• most repealed all over Eoropc, and yet .none of tbose disastrous results bed followed, of Which the flonourt. able Baronet was so appreheilsive here. As one of the commercial body for whcire the fears of the Htinonrahte Baronet were so great, he begged to say that he felt net the slightest'apprehension for the consectuencei isf this measure. Ode good effect wkieh he felt assured of, and which it was most desirable to bring 'AAA wo , ild be the putting in end to the practiCe of raising money by way of annuity, by which pernicious systeihr be had known many instances of fainiliesbeing involver!, in difficulties fiorn which they would probably never recover. Such ruin was the natural consequence of the, neceisity to which the hot-tower, under the existing lavis, was driven, of applying to individuals who, sinking under the infamy entailed upon them by the nature of the translations in which they were engaged, exacted large preittiunts to pay for their loss of character and reputation. He trusted those evils would be removed by the proposed repeal .of, thOse laws *lnch he had never heard defended by any man in his senses with whom be had ever conversed on the subject. Mr. GRENELL said, if he rightly understood the objection of the Honourable Baronet to the Bill, it was that he conceived the removal of the restriction would, increase the rate of interest. To that,ohjection he coals' cite an instance which Jto th9tight would. pro* ailtfAl4, SatisfaCtory atiiiver. The Tnstanie to whith tit tllrt was that of Holland, where there existed ao la* td gulate the rate of interest ;- and from his own lA* ledge .he could say, that there was. no country in : 1 1*k World Where the rate of interel - on money . was so lob aS in the United Proviiteet, e therefOre hoped his Majesty's Government wonld.give - their Support to this Measure, More particulai ' l9 its it is in unison with tWole liberatvieWs and policies *IAA we have seen them act Upon with 'so, Much satiglielfen'et late—(ffertr, hear.) • Mr. HUSkISSON said he was a Member - of the Committee 'Which Mode the 'Report, in 1818. uponi whiCh the otes - eta hill was founded. In the cipinions set fotth in that Report he fully concurred at thethni, and the 'oPinion Which be hf 4 then foirned he still 4..; tained: He considered the Usury Lairs .1; tateulated tikadd to the difficulties in the way of raising money, :ilia to frOtnote litigation and fraud. The CHANCt LLOR. ef the MEC HEQUtII said he. had oppitied the Bill when brought forward in the last Session, not because he thought any advantage could be derived from the continhatiOn of the Usury Laws, tieta.nt the public mind did riot teem ' to bb s6ffi- . ctcntly made up as to the policy of re'pealinglitem, and peat opposition was in consequence made to the Bill. He thought the circurottiaces under which it now came fbrwara iieVe Ziffeieat, the opoo6ltion . +raving . fitly strbliZed. and therefbre he *as . prtliared to give his 'sapper% to 'the Bill. ' Mr. CALCRAFF expressed his .suipthe t at tlle Right Honotirattle 'Gentleman i(the Chancellor of the F,ichiqoer) diduld new so Cindiallly huppert *a Ineasort which .he hit/ Strenuondy 649sta six months ago. He (Mr. C.ilcraft) admitted that the principle . of the Usury Laws was one Which it was not easy to defend ; hilt he Wetild maintain ttitit it was dabgerous in the Tex trerneto Wter.,. in a couotry ‘yhefe capital circulated S.. largely, and . to such Advantage as in this, ihosela;is Order which its operations had bolting been Conducted. Gentlemen were much inistateo if they thought that with a Government borrowing so lariely as the tioverit- Ment of this country did in 'belittle of war, tinir advan . - rage could bicgainedlnindividOids by the repeal of the LiWs. Gentleinen seeitted 'oooldr - the Bill Marla' protect individeals from ruinous contracts: he 'wntild say, that it would -f facilitate borrowing by the ihOught-i leis and eitraVsigarit, ifistead Of hiding the fair opera- 1 licins of inif(titry and crittkirterte. He Was not a Mehl; her of the Cornmittee—rMr; ei:jearittrott.oilr, i6oss the House, " Yes, you were:l—Then be Was eatternely sorry to have beettio unworthy a Member,lorbe never attended O'o's Cow,. at rtiis the /I Ouse, "Yes, }au Sid iittenda-47044 th ff itlitertle did net; recellect, however, what passed in the COmtnitiie ; but he had read the evidence since, and if he had thought that the Right flopourable Gentlem'an ate IA in tended to adopt ahis brat of the Learned meant which had been handled abotitTrom:Seisicin to ssidni Whein no one would 'take it in, he would have broilght the evidence with hint, and would have undertaten to! strew that it diII not bear out the rieWs cif those Who supported the ll: lie knew that if the Ministers were determined to support the Mea.snie, it was in thr him to speak against it, for their suggestions were sure to meet with a ready '_cortipliande from the majority. Mr. SetjearittfigsLOW 'said * it Was certainthat the i Honourable Member Who 'had pit Sat 'adain was a: Member of the Committee from whicb this 13 ill had' einanated ; It was eqtally certain that hi attended its meetings; it was also certain that he it . thatiime ten:, curred with it in opinion, because when the report was. made up there Wits not a single clit*otiernt voice again* its adoption. Ttie Ilenottrable iecOnder of the amend: ment and the Honeurable Baronet opposite (Sir Jcilin Wrotteiley) 'had fallen into a:gieat 'mistake When they talked about the policy of these Yaws; TOr if they read the preamble of the Acts they would find the whole to have been (bonded on the 'notion then prevalent, that it was repignant to the spirit of Christianity to ;ate in• terest for the lending of money, and that no iitieitinit of policy was ever thought of. The principle of the present Bill was this,'let the money contract be like all' other commercial bargainsfree, No Ittelap was ever made to fix the, price of toiriMOdities Sy Stature, nor to regulate the rate of insurance by Act of Paella• ment: and he was wholly at a less to conceive drat, what principle of pdlicy, either airegarded the interests of trade, or just and fair dealing 'between 'men and man, the rate of interest upon money alone could be considered as requiring this species'of restriction. Mr. BARING said thathe felt no apology neceststry for offering .a few words upon a subject Which was ton- fessedly of the first importance to all 'ranks Of Ike com munity. His observations should, however, be few, is ilEr.~ 06 , 440e4;001umt, het betel' heard nothing from those who had oppOsed the 'Mature' of the Learned Mover, enrich In his opinioth Salted for lengthened Atoning That Measure, it was a:alerted, went to operate a considerable change in oar, Walt but , he (Mr. Baring) 'Would ask, was not that eilingelor the better? and could there bit a bettet op portunity of making it than the present, which, in his opinion ' Sias the Mbst faibtrable period which had of -• curred during the last century for doing away with laws, for which, he would contend, no sound argoment ,had ever been advanced ; and which, as far as the great capitalists and ***tied. fitlak were Concerned, had been rendered tdeallyibtipetAtite The Gentlemen, 4 , itio would in fact he the moist benefitted by the repeal 'of the Usury Laws were its greatest opponents. If they consulted their true interests,. he (Mr. Baring) thottOt they would not persevere in their orposition ; hot lit' case they did, he Aged tecommend that:, to re move all apprehension on their part, when the Bill weft into a Corn &Ante, MI Mani of money upon mortgage Alight be excepted from operation—( firer, hear). He bad no hesitation in repeating • that mercantile men Of every class would be benefitted by it—(Teat)--and landed proprietors would, in his opinion, derive front it the greatest relief; as, instead of paying at the rate of fonrteen per cent. as they *ere obliged to do during the war, when the regular tate of interest Was ditty 6t* per cent. they would, when this Bill passed, be able to rake money. at a fair premium. If upon further inquiry the COUntry Gentlemen shotild refs* to be convinced of the utility meaure, as it effected them, nothing *es more simple than toleate.theth The ftill benefit of a' measure which they thought:Advantageous to their in terests, but which ht could n& help clepretating as the greatest injury and cursevortfich bad ever befallen them. taptain NIA BERIS oplibled the AcnenAment. After a few wind* Tam . Mr W. Dt Catsrtatrt and Mre.J. MA RTIN, the HOUSe divided—the nutribets were For the second reading - Ito Agali:'it it • ' 23 • WAYS AllO MEANS. Site . CtiAIicHLLOR if the EXCHEQUER Aid; in Moving that the Report of the Coltfinittee on the Ways and Meanslie•biringht up, it was not his intention to. include the vote which related to the Annual Spirit • Dude's, heeanst he understood it wits in the contempla thin of an itthielitible Metntier to ispOnse that cute. Me was induced to take this step not betaust art antitik pated any 'Serious objettioa, or that he was tinprepared tb *Myer any, argOrnenes which the Honourable MeltsY her might bring forCigrid ; bat because ltehad, tipbo being questioned by several persons interested in the suhjett, dtchtred that he could give no opinion until he brought forward Itiefinancial statement next week. Ile had thought 'it necessary to say chi's ih order to obviate any idea that he Was "ttacireparted at the proper timeto answer any nhjectiott Which might be made.' • ?qtr. IMIGfiT mite* it teior obsefritiotts. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER laid; that as a certain degree of intonVeraericeAeduld be ex perienced by postponing the vote respecting thb Annual INVOltis to Weetneday heat, he should move at present for a cei to in vote on account of Surplus mid the Corrsott dated Fund, without si;ecifying the:specific purpose to . which the .rant was to be applied. Unless there was a dkposition in the House to assist Government on (ken shays Ike' he present, there would re,olt an inconve nience to the .cbanny Which he 'was some no. Member would wish to 'Create. AfltifLY agreed trial What had just fallen - the ItiAt wrienTable that the. House ought tOtbtbw lib iittttacle in the way of granting .the Stspplies, as without tl ei Ministert would Apt has an 11p/1(r - realty of malei He *eaten titelikattiffrab •en ttittler tniretAite vbt4.oitses' rr..flU laic that he ma net kffb ctn.& Of Vise' Honourable Member's argument, Abet The *Ore °tight to he allowed to .pan in order toenail:4e his Majesty's Slitti4etis to effect rtddct;btis aft erwErds. All be (Mr. HUME) traced df The hiefit tentlenan At• *it sign his marshier; tn 'Which 1* - myrtied That he was nat. .perfult i ted to silo rio,fruin 'the Ckauceilor E:raeqhfr)--dr Oita it *as nbt , e(AVveliient. He fMr.' Ilune) thought the R*l:t trehtlettran had 'better put off the consideration of the %I tiger as well as of the Dotter. • • . Thc CfIAWCET.LOIR - cif the tX , C4E4AJER --ob served t hat th 1-16606 table Miletthet ettrtht Meat An -der some misctiticeptitA, as We fth'e'Chancelicir of the E:xtitetor)..tkad already expressed his intention not to ,brink up ple ) 10•joilt ogon ale Antittal Datiei.:—The iOlinion - s iveri then aleeed tb. Dmirrit aiiiiiiiimAtreemorri•‘dt Yak 'irtiritataa. Mr. 13AttilV:i rettiteifed to lit hiformbil of the ch.- cumitances under which Mr. Vincent, 'after 'the _4Mth of the late , Deputy . .Remembrancer,-Mr. Steele, had been appointed to this office? :The C H Nett / LOA. the MEt`IIIMUISR said, that l'lrArintent's appointment .was - teMporXry. The. law vibibli came into operation at the death of Mr. l Steele, 'did not provide for the abolitkM of the office of tephfy telbetnbearncer, or iRx the Medal ia sibich - the °duties of that"office should theneefdtth be Pliforrited : it: only required that whenever that event took place, the: *Lords of the Treasury shOUld ditettnitiekvbatihohldtbe the'futtire a does -or the Ace, anti what "should . be the: estent.Of tlieemoltttttent arising 'it. Vie Lords bf Vie Treasury, accordingly, upathe death Wit 'time itrealliag upon 'this Barons of the Esche liser,:siraiittiShlhe-Chdifceltor df Eichequer, to re-' .port to them is to the haitiii *Of the office ;'but the'f,act was, that the duties of it, trim the 'nature hnd constitu ton of 'the riehelifer, Atrefe absolutely 'necessary to.be continued until some new system eotitld be arranged; and it was 'not very easy to decide by what system the Ibuiiness would be best dime; - find with least expense to The Pub4c. . However, Mr. Vincent had been appointed. HeiVis *required hit:itself to perform the duties Of the place, and' allowed no deputy ; 'add he .ivis directed to receive the accustomed fees for the present,. hot keeping them for himself, but'Oiyinglhefn into the Consolidated tiind ; the Lords of the Tfeasttry Of ceiirielieservink to themselves 'the `pc:•Wer of giving" htitt an 'adequate com pensation for his labour. tor•hiniself, the Chancellor Of the Eichequer added, he was most - anxious to regu late the - office in that iviey Which7Shoold be most condu cive to the.phblic service; and,Vihateeer diffiCalty there might be in determiOing the precise 'Mode inivbieh the `necessary duties should be extrclited,lhere eobld - be doubt they would be .performed at a considerably Tess Mtwist than they bad been 'heretofore. For the ap-; pointeetat of i nr.Vftteent, it him, merely temporary ; and there - WM aflill'Undelygnilipg - that be ivas`to'have no chili to the sitilatioa whea . the Tteisiary ihbuld be Fi're'Oired to arrenia i<permabent establishment. prof o . himielf 'satisfied with the Right Honourable Gentltitilesitlitanttitialunittestbd , .-• , that the new arrangement would amount to a comkle'l remodelling of the Exchequer. • COMMITTEE 07 SUPPLY. ,On the Motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Excne ones, that the House should resolve itself into a Com mittee of Supply, Mr. HUME rose to Present a Petition connected with the Charges For the NStry. The Petitioner was a Gan. deman of the name of Burridge, who had lately written . ,upon the subject of Dry Rot; and the Petition stated tier) extensive in)nry atte i n ei l e t:L3f lett years from that disiate to our shipping; b shut neatly one-half the Sestet in the Ifary were mote or less visited by it; end several ships, the Lord Nelson, the Lot d Howe, the Queen Charlotte, and others, had Lately' upon a survey, been found to be entirely destroyed. The Petitioner added that it would appear, upon eakulatiOa, that owing to this disease, the numbet of see-lvorthy ships which at pre. sent compered otir navy was ,smaller than that which we had mtintiened in the year 1793; .and prayed that the Board of Admiriky would take means to repress the evil. Mr. Hume was .desirous himself to know what the ,Admiralty was prepared to do in this matter, which seemed to him to be one of the very highest, importance: It was quite certain that the English oak had not been used fOrmerlyto decay, as it did now. tot' the coal tar, which had been supposed a remedy, he understood that it did nothing but mischiery it injured the health of the men and did no good to the timber, He Wak in formed that ships built in America,.. from wood felled at the season when the sap was not in the tree, Were not subject to dry rot—or at least not in the same de. '.gree with those boat by us, from wood Felled When the sap was in it. Whatever might, be the merit's of the petition, he thought there could be ho doubt that the subject was one which demanded the tullest attention and discussion. The CHANCELLOR- of the. EXCHEQUER sug gested that this Petition could be better received at any other time. Mr. HUME acs uiested in this suggestion.—The Peti tion was withdrawn, and the liouse went into Committee. NAVY ESTIMATES. Sir GEORGE CLERK rose to bring forward the Nary Estimates for the present year ; and, after the great redactions which lad already taken place in our 'naval department, did not Apprehend that any further re duction were deals to be proposed. The vote called for this year wal 8320,400 more than had been taken last, because it Was necessary to make scoe small addition to our present force. He anticipated no objection to this from the Gentlemea on the other side, because their complaint for some time had• been rather that otir naval establishment was too low. The unsettled state of some parts of the *Grid to which the commerce of England was now, with every prospect of advanta•ge, extending itself, wneldTnlly 'etcose the - trilling ad2,i tional expense which Was Contemplated; - and in addi tion to this consideration, there was thepoliability that the piratical depredations in the West Indies, which now were entirely stopped, would recommence if our sti ength in that quarter Was withdtawn and the necessity for maintaining our power in the Meditertsattean, as hing at the present dispute* existed between Turkey and her Greek dependencies. With tesnect to the Petition which had • been presetted by the Hon. Member for Aber deen, the subject was already under the consideration of the Admiralty, who Was not blind to its importance. The fact was,' in some measure, that from the great eli• gepcies of the late wat service, it bled been fonnd nem-. >key . to btriEd ships Without dmse recreations which iviruld:htive beet 'Used alder elreuttistatice Of foil leisure. ruebei hati.beets Asata in' Runty cases w hith was not 'suf. tßtai6vfdy-seasoned. We were ltow, however, using every iteniti-thirroid the 'ell to which the Honourable ?Mem ber tor Ntreideen tinded. Ships were Intik under cover, • the Ilanber employed was perfectly afy,' and the coal tat-was to the harmlessness of which liehad understood the Hottelerable Member to he tatisfied-,-.the coal-tar was inactensetif, and, as was believed, with kood ef fect. Independent of these precautions, an experiment was now making whether the dry rot might net lie pre vented by iShenersin the wood in salt water 'before it i'VAS waked Up . ; and he begged to state &et the Comp 'troller of the Navy, wh&e Fafoitnatithl upon the matter was steels better 'drat! his (Sir (ieonge "elei-k's) own, Atibttlil be folly prepared to imswer, if necessai y s the atleetions itt the Honourable Mernberfor Aberdeen's Petition: The cliniettrahle Batista Xontiticied by Itatiog that theettra feharge , of S20;0081. was iecorred on meet &eon* of 4;000 additional tiesdnen *making our eseab lishmeott, ttoirt42B,ooo then, 2903136, ,, iincluiling aferce elf bAitiO Mariner), together with emettin 'expeftses . ariting out of the increased price of provisions ; and by tutoring that "a thin Mot exceeding 885,950/. -shot:hi be granted ' for wages for 'the Navy, for the year vontmenerns_Ja nuiry, 1824. . igtEVIINTIVis•naVIcie. • Mr. WARRE wished to pot a lineation with respect arrangetnents of the r'refetniVe Service, which aia established a sort of gendairrieeiie—for k could be compared to nothing else—upon our shores. The high 'duties imposed in time of war .were, now that France and -England were at peace, operating as - such it 'bounty upon contraband trade a - s:rio vigilance Could withstand, and producing actually a regular guerilla warfare le i/teen the Government forte and the smugglers. We `had now irts fewer than 1,100 Men employed 'in the Preientiie Service, patrolling updn 'der coast. He wishednlso to know if, in case of any addition 1)64 made to the force appointed to the coast blockade, the addititinallfortes *Mild he tit under 'the same corn. 'Mends as at pretent? There Wits 'bite ship -of war sta tioned in the Downs to Witat titer a line of coast Sp extensive, that theOf fi eer who 'there held-controul was either on horseback or in thebokt, night and day con tinually, for weeks together. This he might do from his zeal and anxiety to complete a system of his own creation ; but it was too much for the country to receive from the terifice:of ith one man. For his own part, he did not believe that while the duties on foreign 'spirits andivine Were as high as at present, they ever would be able to prevent smuggling. It was Impos sible to make those persons who: were engaged in bring. ing in contraband comtnmodities fliel any moral corr.• punctions upon the subject of their etriPloyment, whit( they were tempted with the bounty offered by the pre sent enormously high duties. His only object, in rising, was'to know - if any, and what portion of .this additional ifoice of 5,000 men was to be put underthe.command of the gallant Officer to whom he had alluded ?. Sirl7. CLERK said, that it was the intention of Gp vernnient•to continue the system of the preventive serer vice as .at present established ; which, notwithstanding the remarks of the Honourable Member, had operated with the most complete success. 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