Star. — London, England, 1819-05-13 00:00:00

It.' r , " DROGHEDA ELECTIoN PETITION. Mr. BRAND presented a Report from the Com mittee sitting on the Drogheda Election. • The Report was brought up and read. It stated, , that Sit THOMAS MOSTYN had written a letter to the' Committee to inform them that he was too ill to at tend.—The Report having been read, Mr. BRAND moved, that Di. Neill, the Medical Attendant of &r THOMAS MOSTYN, be called in and exanar.ed.--Agreed to. Dr. NE.H.t. was then called in, and expressed his opinion, that Sir THOMAS Mosryx was too ill to at tend Vie House at present, but that he conceived he would be able to do so in a week.—Dr. NEILL hav ing withdrawn, Mr. BRAND moved, first, that Sir T. Mostyn should have leave of absence for a week and se condly, that the Committee should adjourn their Sit tings for that period; both which motions ware car tied in the affirmative. BRITISH MUSEUM. 111'. BANKES moved that there be hid before the Mouse an Account of the Income, and Expendittr, 'tithe British Museum in 1818, of the estimated Ex penditure for 1819, of the Sums necessary to defray the same, aud of the Number of Persons who had visited the Museum during the Seven Years finishing in March, 1819.—Agreed to. Mr. KEITH, from the British Museum, then pre seated an Account of the Number of Persons ad mitted, which was laid upon the table, andtirdered to be printed. FIRE-ACT CLERGY. Alderman WAITHNIAN said, that he rose to more for the production of three sets of Papers, whiCh were necessary to elucid tte the Committee row sitting upon the Claims of the London Fire-Act Clergy. Ile should not preface his motion with any remarks, but should simply move, that there be laid forthwith before the House-Ist, An Account of all the Income and Emoluments arising from Tithes, Er:o,Bm. of the various Incumbents of the Out. 1 4 arishi* in London, together with the Expenses, if ant, incurred in collecting the same ; 2d, A Similar Account of the Income of the various Incumbents in, Soirthwark, and its Si: Parishes ; and, 3d, The same Account of the Income of the Clergymen in the Nine Parishes in the Liberty of Westminster. The SPEAKER observed to the wurthy Aldeh man, that there was no occa s ion fur the word forthwith" in his motion, as it was the bounden duty of every person to pay immediate attention to the Orders of the House. Alderman WAITHMAN owned the correctness of the Speaker's observation, and withdrew the word 4 , fortheriski."—On the question being int. IItr.HOLME,SIJMNELI observed, that although behad heardthe motion, he had not heaidany rea soft urged for the granting of it. . Alderioan WAITHMAN did not wish to take up the time of the House unnecessarily, but as he was that called upon, he must explain the reasons of his tosidact. Every body kliew that an application was ativresent before Paeliament for an Increase of Sti pend to a part of the Clergy of the Metropolis ; or, in other words, that there was an intention, on the Clof the Clergy to levy a heavier Tax from the ew of London than that which was already im posed upon them for their support. The present motion was not a suggestion of his own, but of those whose interests would be materially affected, if the Increase of Stipend which the Clergy asked should, by any possibility be granted. The object of it was to chew, that though the Parishes in London were much smaller than those in Southwark and West minster, they afforded greater emoluments to their different Incumbents than the Parishes in the two (*her places. If, therefore, the claims of the London Clergy were allowed to be such as entitled them to receive an increase of Stipend, the Claims of the Clergy in Westminster, -Ind other parts of the King dom, ought certainly to be taken into the serious consideration of the House. Sir JAMES GRAHAM maintained, that the' worthy Alderman bad not shown any satisfactory - for calling upon the Intumbents in V'estinin give an account of the Profits and' Emolu of their respective Livings. %Inteller might , amount of them, they had nothing to do with case of the London Clergy. Those Reverend -.men had, in compliance with an order of the Committee, given in a Return of the Income which • derived from• their several Benefices. This to have satisfied the opponents of their claims; did no such thing; they even wished the Corn to order the Clergy to present them with a , of the Income they derived from their private resources ; but such a request the Committee had , unanimously rejected. The Honourable &- then said, that out of common courtesy the Alderman ought to have given him notice nnutiia.which he had just made. It wascom. -Upallaseideit that lee had cane into the Rouse ire tisibresthy Mambo mai ougsing it. DUNDAS *coed to the granting of this ,~"~,.. - • t to market without being liable to that Tax which f to. make a disclosure of their private circumstances every other person in the ir situation was obliged to fad the benefit of anothei piety with whom they were ray. He was sorry to say, that in some parishes the totally unconnected. furnpike Tolls had even been increased, owing to Alderman WAITHMAN had no ob jection to with this exemption. The_ time was how arrived when • draw his motion for • the present, as appeared this method of proceeding, which was as unjust to likely to be a strong opposition to it. the Ptiblic as it was injurious to the Constitution, Mr. Rotate Stamen made a few observations in ought to be s topped . If a Committee of the House censure, and Mr. BENNETT a few observations in de had struck opt of "a Turnpike Bill a clause which fence of the conduct which Alderman Vi'aithman had would have exempted from payment of the Toll the pursued on this occasion. Curate of the Parish, who was obliged to pass through Alderman WAITHMAN then withdrew his me the gate before he could reach the church where h tion, but gave notice that he should bring it on again had duty to perform almost daily, he did not see with' rn.inn w _ what juitite they could extend an immunity like the present to the members of the Royal FaMily. He should therefore move that this Bill be recommitted. In the Committee,li should move that the clause of exemption for the Royal Family should be struck out of the Bill. If that Motion were not acceded to, he should then move the striking 'out of that part of the clause which exempted, the carts, waggons, wains, and drays, even of their most menial domestics. . After a few words from Mr. STUART WORTLEY, the Bill was ordered to be recommitted. Mr. CURWEN then rose, and said that he would oppose every Report of every Bill which contained ,such a clause, as it could not be justified upon any constitutional principle. He therefore hoped that at tention would be paid in the proper quarter to the intention which he had just expressed. BOROUGH OF PFHRTIC Mr. GRENFELL having risen to move that cer tain clauses of the Sinking Fund Act be read, prepa ratory to his motion on that subject, Sir C. BURRELL claimed the precedence for his motion, that the House resolve itself into a Com mittee of the whole House on the•Penryn Election. Bill, and do examine witnesses, as he had already postponed it, and the witnesses were detained in town at a great expense. A short discussion arose on the question of prece ' dente, and it was ultimately settled that the Penryn Committee should come onfirst,and Mr.Gntsrett,es after, if time would allow ; or if not that it should be postponed till to-morrow. Mr. W. WYNN remarked, that it was a standing order that all strangers should be excluded ; if it were found, after this warning, that any of the witnesses had continued in the House, it would be treated and punished as a contempt. The SPEAKER then put the question, and Mr. BARHAM opposed the Speaker's leaving the Chair, on the ground that the Housd was proceeding without any principle being settled. It was a contra diction in terms to say that a principle could not be defined. In the case of Grarnpound it was clear, but here no facts had been established ; and if the House went into the Committee, it would run .the risk of exposing itself to a decision which it might at some future time have great reason to regret. Sir C. HAWKINS was reading an address to the House, when he was interrupted by Mr. I3ANKES, who said that such a proceeding was contrary to an universally received order. Sir C. HAWKINS apologized, and begged of the Hot:re, as the grand inquest of the kingdom, to ac, with deliberation and impartiality. Mr. MANNING urged, that no parliamentary ground had been laid for the Bill ; no resolution of the Committee or special report was before the Huuse ; and the lion. Mover had not condescended to give any reason for the measure he had introduced. Sir C. BURRELL said, that after what bad al ready 'passed on the second reading of the Bill, he thought to re-state reasons would be waste of time. Mr. PENISON remarked, that the Committee had acted upon what was proved before it—bribery had been clearly established against the sitting Mem ber, though one link was wanting in the evidence against the petitioner. Mr. C. lIARV4Y denieckthatiehad been at all made out against the petitioner. Mr. DENISON referred to certaikland-bills which were wanting, and which would cOmplete the chain. Mr. HOLFORD contended. that the Hon. '4eniber had mistaken the point about the hand-bills; two casts only were attempted against the petitioner, and neither of them were made out. The House then resolved itself into a Committee, Mr. Beocoem in the (,'hair. On Si. CH ARLES BURRELL': moving that Mr. Thomas Toy be called, The CHAIRMAN stated, that the witness could not at that present moment be found. lie begged, therefore, to know whet; er the Hon. - Member would proceed, or call another witness. Sir CHARLES BURRELL said, that he must be allbwed to express a doubt, whether the witness called had not kept out of the way or. purpose ? His evi dence was very material, and he really felt that a ne cessity existed of examining him first. The CHAIRMAN understood that the witness had been in attendance for three hours and upwards, mid apprehended that his absence was merely accidental ; he then demanded whether thewitness was still absent? The Serjeant-at-Arms reported that he had r.ot Yet appeared.—After an interval of some length, Mr. W. WILLIAMS asked if there were any means of ascertaining, and if there were, he should like to be informed what had become of the witness? The CHAIRMAN announced, that he had just been informed• that he was then in attendance. Mr. Thomas Toy was then called in, and examined Ipy Sir Cewass Buianx. • Do you live in Penryn T—Tea. Do you recollect any circumstances that occurred at the list election for that borough?—Yes._ _ _ _ Have you any remembrance of a meeting held in lienryn on the 25th of May, 1818 ; and de you know where it was held ? Yes, I remtmber such a meeting, which tools place 32 the sign of the 1 7 ..fteen Balla Do yo'.l harm for what purpose T—(The witness manifesting some hesitation, was desired not to burrs, himself, but to take time to consider bis answer.)—l believe i; waa called for the purpose of opposing Mr. Swan's election. What was in the chuir t—l was. State to the House what paned on that oceasiou---(The wit ness, although repeatedly desired tospeak out, was for seined:l3k inandible.)—To the best of my recollection a set of resolutions Iva; passed, and handed tip to me by Mr. Williams, In answer to she.question, by whom the resolutions' were penned? the witness replied by himself; and that they were dictated by views of personal hostility to Mr. Swann, from whom he had received certain indignities which he could not brook. He did all he could to prejudice the Electors against him ; they were already offended with him on account of his not having " paid his breakfast." His great object was to injure Mr. Swarth—(A laugh). The witness hav ing admitted that he had drawn up a hand-bill on the occasion, was then asked if he bad kept a copy of it? to which be replied in the negative. It was printed by Mr. Brougham. ;Sir CHARLES BURRELL then demanded whe ther, having written it, he could remember the sub stance of it? He did not meen nor wish the witnesi to state it veriatin, but merely to state the axsumentS or facts of the paper. ry The witness -believed it merely stook that. Mr. Swann was expected to artiste in Oenomoa the ego of the approaching Election, end wint7Oni Rs two" his sentiments as to his eligibility aotkoaclisai. Witness was ordered to withitatkr and; Nog dm; motion of malonourable Madbei l (1111rtiMairn) the 7 Serjeant was desired to prevent hi communicating with any other person. - Mr. C: HARVEY had understood that the hand l:6ll in question was given into the hands of one of the Members of the (Penryn) Committee, dr of the Clerk, but was not allowed to be read. He thought the paper should be called for andproduced. Sir CHARLES BURRELL requested the Honour able Member, if he had any, to state what his objec tion was to the mode be had pursued in examining the witness? Mr. lIARVEY explained. Ile had made no ob jection, but merely conceived, that as the paper was understood w is the possession of one part of the House, it might certainly be called for and read. Ile could not see, if that was in existence and forthcom ing, why they need proceed upon oral testimony. . Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH protested against these attempts, which he believed had been tried 40 times in that House, to make the rule of evidence the same as that observed in the Cow is of Law. If they were permitted, the proceedings of the High Court 'of Parliament would become quite ridiculous. Ob jecting to and protesting against that course, how ever, as he did, he could see no objection to the call ing up of Mr. Jones, the Clerk of the Committee in question, who should be asked whether or not Itched a printed COM of the paper in his possession ? The House was not precluded, by that or any other step,l from making use of any rule of evidence that might be deemed proper of course--(Hear). After some remarks from Mr. HARVEY and Mr. BARRY, in explanation, Mr. WILLIAMS said, it seemed to be admitted on all sides:that the course pursued by his'Honourable Friend was not unparliamentary ; and, if it was not, he thought any interruption of the course of evidence was uncalled for. Mr. HOLFORD thought it idle to expect a real statement of the contents of the hand-bill from a wit ness who set out with declaring his almost entire for getfulness of them. Mr. VALENTINE BLAKE, for his part, thought nothing was more unpatliainentary than this wage of time --{A jay gk). Sir CHARLES BURRELL understood the paper was in the possession of the Clerk of the Committee. O. the motion of Sr. Faaossicz DOUGLAS, the. Clerk was ordered to be called in, The CHAIRMAN stated that Gentleman's name to be NThite, not Jones; and, on his appearing, he tated that he did not possess a copy. He was then ordered to withdraw: and Mr. Toy was again called in, but not being able, on his examination being re sumed b; Sir Charles Burrell, to call to mind the substance of the hand-bill, entitled the " Well-wisher;' was again ordered from the Bar. The witness was then ordered to be again called in, and the last question was repeated by Sir Charles Burrell. It was stated in answer, that the witness did remember some particular expressions of the hand-bill entitled the " Well-wisher. He had had no copy of it in his possession, for some time. Some of the expressions which he recollected were as fol low: " The prating hero will soon arrive, assisted by dissimulation and all his usual arts, to distribute among the Electors his fish, his peppermint, and his twopenny." This was an allusion to Mr. Swann's practice or selling the two former articles, and of 'scattering shillings in public-houses for the purchase of the latter. In another part, the Electors were as sured, that if they returned Mr. Swann, they might rely on his afterwards treating them with the same arrogance with which be had once addressed them, when he told them to " go to h-11 and be d—d." De you also recollect this expression in the hand-bill? " If your choice be governed only by interest, you ought nut to re , turn that man," meaning Mr. Swann.—Yer; I do. Did it also contain the following Yon know lie had nei' ther the inclination nor tie ability to gratify you for your fs- I yours, and upon your principles what stronger objection can vain against them than this? I recollect that expression. Dots your memory extend to these observations also? " Has he ever given any one of you a breakfast, or realized a single expectation that you were aught to entertain? We are dis posed to Work back with pleasure to those good old times when every man was provided with a breakfast, the only advantage to which we aspire in the exercise of our elective franchise. Bat be assured that a man after your own heart will offer himself in due season."—The witness admitted that this passage did occur in the composition of the hand-bill. Mr. BLAKE rose to object to this mode of exa mining him, which he considered very irregular, as tending, by certain suggestions, to lead him on invo luntarily in giving bis evidence. Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW was surprised that this objection could be made by the Honourable Member. What ! was not the Honourable Baronet at liberty to refer to and examine from a document which the witness himself acknowledged to have published?— It was not for that House to be bound by those technical forms which regulate the proceedings of inferior Courts. , Mr. COURTNEY said, 'that though the House was not bound by the forms of inferior Courts, still that it ought to examine if these forms were founded in justice, and if so there could be no reason why in particular instances they should not be adhered to. Grand Juries made it an invariable rule to look for the best evidence that could be had, but if they fail ed with all their endeavours to get at the written in strument, they then admitted oral testimony, but at :he same time with a due degree of caution. The re was in the present case to Parliamentary evidence that could be depended upon, for it appeared that the witness was either very incorrect in his judgment, or meant intentionally to deceive. Mr. WYNN had heard various arguments urged in opposition to the oral testimony of the witness, and calling for the written document ; but if that document could not be procured, the House ought to taEe the best evidence that could be had under the particular circumstances of the case. Mr. HOLFORD said, that the Honourable Baro net had intimated his intention to procure the original document. Sir C. BURRELL observed, in reply, that he had entertained hopes of being-able to procure it, but was disappointed. Mrs WILLIAMS said, that as Honourable Mem- . bers on the other side objected to the mode procecded upon by his Hon. Friend, it would be for them to ppudupe Ike : Original hand. bill ,, which would remove the necessity of referring to any cvy qiihat document. • Witiiess havi ng again apOastd at the Bar, his rdiarniiation by Sir RAIILLI BLIIMILL was resumed. Mitring:to the same, co py of mad -bill,..the lio nourehle Ret9llet , *Ord:him rid qucstialls,...t° many of which he repli e d i n the affirmative._ 44e mime !i!lril ! 1 6, Isi ' -I . .. • wormy reason •• ster to merits o be the a the case Gentler Commit they cli ought t • 4. but tt d mittee I Return • TeSOUTCI 1 " almost • • ronet tf• •sreethy ofti!r .•Artes Mr. 1 • 1 , • _.....11111111/1/1 ethe o iabiwtEbwnhl f eeriecaseggehe th alinaennousitettrsyhller:ll(!:it :ee:ic'u,joito;°inrpifghdmiauandie;cpbstj;kaygeslieyltHdej!li,hca.tae.Etilslarniaia:iaa:dns,:ttlit:hl,hv:tb:ijaeoa:ei_rair-.h4slr;ith?c_ela.itY:u::d''u:tc:wn'irtlbi:.l:fofa:reyetm:th'riheihntolatii k d fa ra st 7 h u e p ee in pi n ie hi d, cl ui would r mos pounds beb obsolete sterling, again e 1 restored r t al W. fi t:a a psr t i t i ass o o oict i nh,e i tgdhela n eetb f in;: . h a e ik a e ns d, w i ered f instead of fore on nf u lard _„ fo e Nii.e. or t 1/ 4 lbw,ttweigwil it was a l:sad cl to u n ra : c o te i been ad: p im ert l ec lic tc ti u ng c.d h et in :o o -elf l : I:1;112 ' 1°74 t l e i tors of Penryn in the sense he intended He was then interrogated as to the parsimonysithth we l le e u z n p d c e - lodeibudidmat at vriane refused octet h ce, e ao ddbety meeting omtheindulgehfaet thethem breakfast w Elec tor s Kb when it appeared that they were ainun -at f the v:ituess, that cos r l y t e 7 th also at th s e ta se te . d .as b a y second meeting held sab,~ to that of the 25th of M as, at which II r utkr ',J,; was pre,ent. This l as t cons i ste d of more . tl p b ort ut bemrci.e:inederci te,honat.heA(ntileanwuitnsioe:l}landaddee:add:e:.: hundred persons, of whom many we re ~ Proposition to them to discard. Mr. Swan s Ina made by the Chairman to a person " standin g fiy, (meaning Mr. A n d er d on ) as a highly h- °u n „ Gentleman, who would f u lfil all tins He could not speak to t h e f act t h at many Pii,lePgrner4l.7; ,the Borough we r e i n t h e h a bi t o f tenanti house;, of which they suffered the rent to „ rare r ] they should be enabled t o pay i t at the next eiet ' , l' Being farther exa4sined by Mr. F. DouutA s 11 MA It RYATT, Mr. PU3III, Mr. Wita.tssra, M r ' I 4 T. ETON. Colonel BAltli; Mr. Foams, Mr. I( 7 ' FORD, Mr. DAVIES (i I LIERT, &C. he saicl Wail ► accompanied Mr. Andtrdon in his canvas more the twice, and that he bad never known . ..1;n nuts ; first day of his comin g d own to Penryn. Mr. .54. 41 had neglected to give a breakfast at the last Ocilla' as he had done at the two precediOg one; ; had employed a number of t h e people of Pcnr7ti.'e working stone in Cornwall, and he considced tt benefit resulting from this employment. an eqUirs lent for the breakfast. The witness at the mer the '2sth of May. alluded to thi s , w h en he said, - thel obsolete breakfast should be revived, meani7g thereri the 1:24 in lieu"of the labour. He denied that be µt any questions on the Ist of June to the enters, sounding them as to the probability of Mr. SWam keeping his engagements. He confessed the ai,h vex prenVneral, that Sir Manasseh laipea,would ofe ; and the avowed purpose of the meeting the 25th of May, was to procure a person who said contest the representation with Mr. Swarm. Up is that time, it was not known who would be the tn. didate; but a Mr. Frankfort was expected. On die SOth of June the witness came up to London, robes he immediately went to find Mr. Anderdon, and me him at the house of Mr. Manning. This was ill the morning of the day on which he was to be examined, as a witness at the bar of the House. At this interview the conversation turned upon the condition of the Bs:« rough, and a good deal was said respecting bribed. This was not done with a view to frame his testi. mony so as to weaken its effect in throwing open the Borough, which would be fatal to Mr. Anderdta's influence there. The witness directed his interest against Mr. Swann, because there was a dispute ba tweets them about paying the bills. He had head of breakfasts being given by the candidates, but oat of late years. The common talk was, that al:Takla% was a gift of £24. He never proposed the sum , £2l to support a new candidate. Witness solickid Ms. Anderdon to become a candidate, because it knisy his father, having been formerly employed* purchase a Borough for him. Mr. Anderdon was a Gentleman of considerable wealth, but he did not know whether the circumstance of his having coni• derable wealth would have had any effect on tie Borough of Penryn—(A load laugh.) Here the wit. mess was asked by Mr. Williams whether Mr. Swansi refusal to give the breakfast had no effect ? He he believed it bad. He had received a letter firm the Electors of Penryn, expressing their dissatisfa• tion at Mr. Swann ; he did not recollect for win:, nor had he the letter in his possession. He Ida know of any acts of bribery at Penrym Mils came to London on the 3d instant, and called es Mr. Anderdon. He had no conversation about tbe Borough, but he asked whether, in his evidence be fore the House, he was bound to annter any quo tion that might criminate himself? He put this qv* don to air. Wingfield the banister, and to Mr. As• derdon's attorney. lie wanted to know whether's, as an agent, was bound to answer any such questians! A considerable time ago, Mr. Swann, who used iry quendy to come down to Penryn, declare d , at a pub' lic meeting, that he would pay no bills for treakasi!. He did not recollect writing to Mr. Swann to gist a bh eakfast to the Electors. The witness was nor 07 dered to withdraw ; and a short conversation tea place as to the necessity of examining him mo closely. He was again called in and examined. said he had written several letters to Mr. Swann, ',lr. at t h e t i me o fthe last Etc' did not recollect having, tion, written any letters about breakfasts. Mr. derdon • never gave, nor even offered a bribe. li e never did himself offer any bribe. He had on ist pri h n is ted poss ha e n s d st - d b n ill , per. He did not 4ike to Mr. Swann was occasioned hy the hum r s' a r n e o d z ir s e n e g to t re l2 sa i y t, 4 : a a t H s i l t e e L a w d old v oll ery d e s c u i f aip pr.rt tb : the Devil himielf, if he opposed Mr. Swann ; his ttr__ . payinghis bills. Hese a hand-bill istat ed b y 111 witness to have been the production as having neither the inclination or ability to Ft! re M a r. d S ; w it ann was as a lt i v re in s g se re d each 'Elector' a breakfast; and stating, that a, nca p t e o at t e h d e ly E b l r ec ok tor ol ea s, h ir r i : . ptese pt.am Top) 1 1tti ll . Was,. Reynolds was ,next c• liberally y at fe e rwastheicrormditnetdown,,danieliawouldani ePal:72:l, told by the Chairman that he was . not bound se .?; He mi. sa A i nd d e h r e ad h ti ad at a ti ct e et i l ast as E th lec e ti t‘ri ot e L od Th an is d:,: nestai l ro t i l had 0 * Beiiig asked if theeiections at l'eavf9 ryer any question that iniviit cr iminate lara n • ou d tEhleceintel:whwec):ev:pi dassad pbaygegykit::ihca.taae.i:arniaa:ialidni::,ll,:.,ll‘:tboei4llo:ol;ecrall'h'S:sll7l::::::EidsTbsihei.eth:4ll:llll;l4lll.:loa.6l-. C I! jabiwwneeaseggalenunsthdpuucrayirsyhNtern. asih h b i re do in i r n f p g bmn l i mi l a o e lm hi s:k ,c i e tt : H d: E a st tej t that h.eciz.4e. exhorted- • them j b y o a almost t he t a ni ma t e d obsolete gratification f cn gt ,hthf E eao e ne . , : cL a t o.te . r—e character rit : 4ll l:p e • would be again restored to them .or 1 4 irix - s a rep tt r i ::: : ei rsat g nsoi l l t i f t,E w:red h ea st is: d n rto einr y li nth n n a o t i ot itbidlieclieteneiiimsitiiiesrcilwi:cct;hetdlieeaauttgh:d stated s asked, if instead of the single E, 4 th gi fi .) c_ l3 :l, ‘ but lb H s e. eras as as t a he cl r :a i ra nt c erro ter g p a e te rfec d a, to the ltesolutiMhs p^ be at the meeting of the Electors oa the al as : when it appeared that they were airloVlll of • in condemning the parsimony of M r , si t n44i • refused to indulge them with the ezpc-c•ed.ri %":„ •It was also stated by the witness, that reall4 , - , veyed by the breakfast was well under le idea I ryn ; that there was a second rueeiin? h e ja" d to that of the 25 th of M AY, at whi ch II r i tnega4t , 4 was present. This last consisted of mor e r. p b ort ut bemed.e:inederd tdhonat.heA(atheauwaitnsiee:ll)landadid:eti : hundred persons, of whom many were , . proposition to them to discard. Mr. Swa nn , (meaning ma d e by theh Mr.o speak Chairman eitanprnd the h a bit a person s: andi ng Gentleman, hf al aca bmtu a i a tt l : l l. l .: ' s uer _g uan :neo‘ r l e e Lk .ecr i s m i.: ltr ,r : l l : e lf. ‘. :l l ll l .! thee could Borough Til g ° I xt F. Dot Lh•:leAßUySneeilhiygOofAuciad.r:ithemiecrehrnae.ttHheabu4llyemdisn:edttroerselpbarydy. t i l : e at ren th t to 'lf ie"- 'llll TLETON. Colonel BARRY, Mr. Fosteps, Mr. 1 4 : .1 FORD, Mr. DAVIES (ilLlElti, &c. he said he h : 4l ' ., accompanied Mr. Andtrdon in his canvas mote tb twice, and that he bad never known :Jim trt . • first day of his coming down to Penryn. NES had neglected to give a b rea kf ast at the last d e 1 " '. as he had done at the two preceding one , ; had employed a number of the people of Penr.,- n working stone in Cornwall, and he considered tZ I benefit resulting from this employment. an equal I lent for the breakfast. The witness at the meeting, • the 25th of May. alluded to thi s , w h en he said, th obsolete breakfast should be revised, meani7g there the £24 in lieu"of the labour. He de n i e d t h at be pllta any questions on the Ist of June to the eleetto, 1 sounding them as to the probability of Mr. Swan s i keeping his engagements. He confessed the aid, r a ts pretty himself; that Sir Manasseh laipea,would of! and the avowed purpose of the meetiagcf the 25th of May, was to procure a person who "mid contest the representation with Mr. Swarm. Up to • that time, it was not known who would be the frw didate; but a Mr. Frankfort was expected. On the SOth of June the witness came up to London, Ides • he immediately went to find Mr. Anderdon, and ma him at the house of Mr. Manning. This was i 0 the • morning of the day on which he was to be examined as a witness at the bar of the House. At this interview the conversation turned upon the condition of the Es. rough, and a good deal was said respecting bribery. This was not done with a view to frame his tan• mony so as to weaken its effect in throwing open the Borough, which would be fatal to Mr. Anderdte's inllueace there. The witness directed his interest against Mr. Swann, because there was a diTute tween them about paying the bills. He had herd of breakfasts being gives by the candidates, but Da of late years. The common talk was, that a Ireskjiut was a gift of En. He never proposed the sum •• £24 to support a new candidate. Witness solicited Ms. Anderdon to become a candidate, because be kne . w his father, having been formerly employed to purchase a Borough for him. Mr. Anderdon was a Gentleman of considerable wealth, but he did cot know whether the circumstance of his having foci. derable wealth would have had any effect on tie Borough of Penryn—(A loud laugh.) Here the wit. ness was asked by Mr. Williams whether Mr. Swains refusal to give the breakfast had no effect ? He he believed it bad. He had received a letter firm the Electors of Penryn, expressing their dissatisfa• tion at Mr. Swann ; he did not recollect for win:, nor had he the letter in his possession. He id ea know of any acts of bribery at Penryn. Witms came to London on the 3d instant, and called ca Mr. Anderdon. Ile had no conversation about the Borough, but he asked whether, in his evidence be fore the House, he was bound to answer any quo tion that might criminate himself? He put this qsa Lion to fir. Wingfield the banister, and to Mr. Att• derdon's attorney. lie wanted to know whether he as an agent, was bound to answer any such questio.s! A considerable time ago, Mr. Swann, who used fn• quently to come down to Penryn, declare d , at a pub' lic meeting, that he would pay no bills for treaknal. He did not recollect waiting to Mr. Swann to give a bleakfast to the Electors. The witness was nor te • dered to withdraw ; and a short conversa tion tea place as to the necessity of examining him mace closely. He was again called in and examined. IYe . said he had written several letters to Mr. Swann, be t Et c ' did not recollect having, at the time oftbe last tion, written any letters about breakfasts. Mr. k' derdon - never gave, nor even offered a bribe. He never did himself offer any bribe. He had sect printed hand-bills, offering L 4. He had one cf Meal ia his possession, and he tore it, as it was very illsP* per. He did not recollect saying he would supp!rt the Devil himielf, if he opposed Mr. $. w.um his 4 *: . 4ike to Mr. Swann was occasioned 1•y the leer n", paying his bills. Hese a hand-bill istate d b y us witness to have been the production of Mr. Toy) s' ..l read ; it was addressed to the Electors , t eP s e'l l .!. Mr. Swann as having repeatedly broken his pram's', as having nei th er the inclination or ability to Ft! each 'Elector' a breakfast; and :radii, that a, nca ICiberandi and esami 2 wallin. d 3t a ße t fe e sr w ar as thokt c r o wy m o4 i t n se g down , ji‘eito;nid would ili at Mr. sa A i ndi h r. Anderdon i ad at thteedust E th leti tri o told by the Chairman that he was not slyer any question that might criminate had 0 1 been Being asked if theelections at l'enst9 eh Election. LndThanibous d : l in nj t,i.estastaro ja. is •