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w as anxious to do so, both upon the justice of the 1 SiteJOHN ANSTRUTHSR objected to the mo case, and from t he knowledge which every / one must - tion on account of it s g en e r a lity, an d i ts assum i ng as e a se of the suspicions prevailing in the minds of the a fact s that there existed abuses in all the departments 1 ho were calling loudly for inquiry. But State, in proof of which there was not a tittle of otion of the Noble Lord was not evidence. But the Hon. Gentleman behind him, (Mr. s Pc s l e g ' that . the m . h as lie imagined it would have been---:finding `Hutchinson) went farther, for he said, that the gene , t, was one of a general nature, and that its tens I ral system of the Government was such as ought not ;Sat it der.cv was to put whole departments upon trial with-1 to be continued. The House of Commons was part t en v specific chues of delinquency stated, he • of that system, and he, therefore, now called upon the out • c old notconcur in that motion.—He felt himself . House of Commons to try itself.—Hear, hear !—A .. it in its present shape, and he , Gentleman under the Gallery had said, that it was sound to dissent from . ou id wait till either the Noble Lord, or some one as right to suspect persons in office. What right had he i e %l able as he was, or better, came prepared to state I to suspect them ? If he had any facts to produce, let • ilar charges against particular individuals. i him state them ; but if he had no facts to state, then partici , . , , ele PONSONBY hoped that he would not be ac- !he had no right to suspect. As to the inadmissibility cured o f protecting abuses ; for none would more ! of the motion, he thought there could be no doubt w a ng le expose abuses and punish the delinquents,' upon that point. It went to inquire into one did w here delinquency was proved. But this motion as- not know what, and was utterly incompatible with s oled the existence of abases in every department of , any practical plan of conducting business. If parti the state, without any proof ; and therefore he disap- : cular facts were stated, it might be fair and reasonable proved of it. If the Noble Lord followed the ex- ;to investigate ; but at the same time he could not ample of the Honourable Gentlemanwho had brought . listen to vague and loose stories even against indivi- forwar d the charges against the late Commander in . duals. The proper plan was to send them to the Chief —if lie s pecifically stated his charges, and the ! Attorney-General, and not to place the justice of the individuals against whom they were directed, he country in the worst possible hands ; not only in the would have every redress which he himself could wish • hands of the House of Commons ; but what was still for. The Honourable Gentleman to whows he al- . worse, in those of its Committees. luded had stated his charges specifically—he had : Mr. P. MOORE could not vote for the motion in stat ed how he meant to prove them, and laid that its present shape, and he wished the Noble Lord would ground for accusation in the House which all were withdraw it, and bring it forward in a less objection hound to do who moved for Committees of this kind. : able mode. He thought the motion was to have been such thing was done here ; the object was to take to refer the minutes to a Committee, that some prac sp some collateral points in the evidence already ad- tices which had come out incidentally might be fur doced, in order to criminate the whole system of the ther investigated. But he found the Noble Lord Government. He could not vote for a motion which proposed to go much farther than this. There had left the House so much in the dark ; and he was the been, he observed, twenty-one levies in the course of more averse to it: from observing a disposition in those some years back on the principle of Colonel French's with whom it originated to charge every man in office levy. The public had paid for these about £500,000 with delinquency—(Hear ! Hear! hear!) —to consi- while they had been very unproductive in the way of ,?sr them all as knaves and rogues alike, and equally raising men. The Commissioners of Accounts had inclined to support abuses and corruption. Now this only examined the documents for about one-half of he would take upon himself positively to contradict ; this sum, and had already discovered frauds to an sad as positively to affirm, that there were many in enormous extent. The Noble Lord might perceive that House as far above such practices as those who , from this, that the investigation of the particulars preferred the charge ; and with respect to himself he ' partially exposed in these Minutes of Evidence, would must further say, that there was no truth in the words , alone furnish ample matter for the exertions of a cf any of them who held themselves out as being ho- i i Committee, for the whole of the present Session. nester men than he was. (Hear ! hear ! ) He was; Mr. CANNING observed, that he rose not because disposed to go as far against extravagance and abuses he had much to add to what had been already said on as any man ; but he could not vote for a motion of this i this subject, but because the public feelings had been ! vague and general nature. so much excited, that in his situation he might be 'lr. HUTCHINSON could not content himself' thought not to have acted a manly part, if lie gave with a silent vote on a motion of this importance.— 1 a silent vote. He fairly avowed that, on grounds 1-1; would support the motion of the. Noble Lord, which had been already stated, no apprehension of and would br;efly state his reasons. He considered consequences, be they what they might, could prism this as a most awful moment ; he did not attribute bly induce him to vote for this motion. It was im. improper motives to any man ; but he had unfortu- 1 possible, in his opinion, to do so in consistency with stately long been of opinion, that the system upon : the duty which he owed to the House and to the which the Government had for some time acted, was; Country, and therefore it had his decided opposition. not such as ought to be continued—and had the fur- ! But in giving that opposition, he did not wish to they misfortune to concur with many others, who ! oppose specific inquiry into specific abuses. The thought that it it was continued the most calamito;is : course was to specify the abuse—to prove the charge, consequences might ensue within a period up to i and then to proceedeo punishment. But this motion which tl-kse in that House, who were lest very old, j was merely founded• upon general suspicion, and its might live. Therefore, great as was the inconvenience ! object appeared to be, to keep alive the ferment which of granting those unlimited powers which it was pro- ! was said to exist in the public mind. They who wish posed to vest in this Committee, he must, without any : ed to keep this ferment alive thought, no doubt, that prejudice or partiality as to this or that Government,' it was proper to prevent its dying away—but, in his vote for the Noble Lord's motion.. Considering the I opinion, it might be attended with a degree of mis eines, considering the state of public opinion, he j chief far beyond any thing contemplated even by the thought that the investigation, however inconvenient, I most apprehensive. He denied that his Right Ho on;ht not to be stifled. He took it for granted, that i nourable Friend (Mr. Perceval), by his Bill, wished the Noble Lord was prepared to bring some points to stifle abuses. It was directed against a specific before the Committee as steal as it was constituted,; abuse, which was proved to exist—that of persons and he could conceive that he might have some very pretending to have places and offices to dispose of, and I rational reasons for not choosing to mention them at the efficacy of the plan proposed to check this evil present. Understanding the tuition to be directed ! would come to be discussed when the Bill was in the not particularly against the existing Government or I hands of the Members. The Hon. Gentleman opposite any other, but generally against abuses, he felt it his 1 (Mr. Moore) had stated a particular abuse, but in the duty to support it. He venerated the ancient insti- - same breath he stated, that the circumstances were un tutions of the country, and no better proof could be der examination, and that overcharges had been disco given of that veneration, than to strike at the abuses vered. He allowed, that if new abuses were specifically which had crept into them and threatened their de- stated, they ought to be inquired into, but the House struction. The great object was to root out the sys- / ought not to proceed merely on general suspicion. If rem of corruption and abuse ; and believing this to it did so, the effect would be to increase that suspicion I be the design of the Noble Lord's motion, and con- far beyond the truth, to augment and not to allay the I ceiving it, notwithstanding its inconveniences, to be ferment, by which the public mind was alledged to well calculated for that purpose, he could not refuse be agitated. But some thought it right to suspect to give it all the support in his power. the Government; and a Gentleman over the way Mr. CHARLES WYNNE observed, that if he . (Mr. Hutchinson) said, that the system of Govern understood the motion correctly, it went to an inquiry; ment for several years back had been such as ought into all corrupt practices and abuses, without any re- :; not to be continued. But was the power of inquiry striction as to time, place, or circumstance. All ¶ into the whole system of Government one which he abuses, at whatever distance of time, whether those' would delegate to a Committee ? If ever there was concerned were dead or alive, might be brought be- a statement which contradicted itself, it was that lore this Committee, though those who might be able whiCh magnified the importance of the object in pro to explain or defend, mi g ht be in their graves. To ! portion as it diminished the ability arid respectability ,inch a motion he could not accede. The want of! of the agent.—(Hear, hear !)—lf he were to adopt the limitation, as to time, was a strong objection ; but 1 ideas of the Honourable Gentleman with respect to tae fully agreed with the Noble Lord below (Lord i the object, lie certainly could never bring himself to Henry Petty), that it was improper to delegate to I consign so important a task to a Committee. But a:iy Committee that discretionary inquisitorial power, ! was there no misehief in allowing the opinion to go which belonged to the House itself. (Hear ! hear !) abroad that there %vas a consciousness on all hands On every case brought before the House, it was cus- :! of such a rottenness in the practices of Govern :cmary to act from considerations of prudence, as ment for several years past, as justified the enter well as with a view to abstract justice. In the first taining of such a motion as this—as justified the Place, the House ought to be enabled to decide, , appointment of a Committee, which, as it would . yhether the case was of sufficient magnitude to call : be unlimited in its retrospective powers, must afford Tor inquiry ? and, secondly, whether the evidence ; but a very distant prospect indeed of future advan stated was sufficient, if actually produced, to bring . tage ? Was the motion founded on the idea that all home the charge to the accused ? Ile had heard that ! public men ought to be objects of suspicion ? Was it -here might be cases brought forward, which had ; conceived that the indulgence and emoluments could taken place in Ireland previous to the Union—cases be the objects of liberal men in aspiring to office ? 'elicit might affect Lord Cornwallis and Mr. Pitt, ; Were the anxieties—the severe duties of such situa olo were in their graves. He was ready to say, that ! tions considered ? Were these things to be compen '!ea greatest inconveniencies would result from this. I sated by money ?—(Hear, Hear!) If there were any ;n short, t h ere was no case , at w h atever di s t anc e of i persons who could entertain such ideas of liberal men ''me it might have occurred, which a Committee, ; who aspired to office, it would be his pride to be an enstituted as the Noble Lord proposed, could refuse' object of their suspicion.— (Hsar, hear.) This he :o entertain. Such a motion could not be acceded i would say, that if the Noble Lord and his abettors e, and it had his decided opposition. ; succeeded in driving all liberal men from the pursuit Mr. THOMAS FOLEY did not conceive that of office, the cast of public men must be a degraded there was any weielit in the argument as to the sus- ' cast, into which no honest man could, in consistency eicion which the motion was said to cast upon all the with his own reputation, enrol himself. These were departments o f G overnme nt. An inquiry would be : the sentiments which he took the liberty to submit to !he most effectual way to do away these suspicions, : the House. He could not, therefore, let out this if they turned out to be unfounded. That there was I wide-wasting power which was claimed by the Noble strong suspicion in the public mind could not be' Lord—a power which could not be allowed to exist, s:.ubted. It that suspicion was not founded in fact,l without creating suspicions of the most disgraceful „ rise who laboured under it ought to have an oor- I nature, which it would be impossible to do away.— elnity of c l ear i ng themselves. But if, on the. pp con- ! (Hear, hear.) -.try, crying abuses actually existed, inquiry was ne- I Lord H. PETTY, in explanation, denied his hay sssary to expose these abus e s. and to prevent their a ing any intention to attribute to the Right Honoura ecurrence. Iu every view, therefore, lie was con- I ble Gentleman opposite (Mr. Perceval) any design soced of the propriety—of the necessity of inquiry, ;to stifle inquiry into abuses by his Bill. d would therefore vote for the motion. i Mr. MOORE said that it was not sufficient that _ . . _ expenditure of the money on the levies *as wider in #estigation, it was f ur th er necessar y t o ascertain how they - had been obtained and how conducted. Lord FOLKSTONE, •in explanation, said that his motion was not of that general kited which some Gentlemer. took it to be. He had speCified_particular parts of the evidence which he wished to submit to a Committee (A cry of Spoke, Spoke ! ) He denied, therefore, that his motion Went to involve all men in accusation. The Gentlemen who opposed it seemed to misunderstand the case. If this had been an en tirely original proceeding, their arguments might have some weight—as the matter stood they were perfectly groundless.—The House th en divided— _ _ DUTCH The practices of the Dutch Commissioners, as deg tailed in the Report of the Finance ComMittee,. hai ; etched considerable surprise. At present we can only briefly state the substance. . . These Commissioners, it appears,entefed upon their office withoutmaking any express agreement what they.. Were to be paid, and they continued so to act for twelve, years, without ever giving the slightest intimation to Government as to what they were taking in way of remuneration, whilst they were during this time, on their own authority; Withdrawing five per cent. from all the gross proceeds of public money that went through their hands. This they have declared td be the usual mercantile commission ; whereas it ap pears on examination that half that sum, viz. two and a half per cent. is the usual mercantile commission, which even they theMselves paid to others. And farther it appears, that by the usual mercan tile practices an interest account is kept between mer chants selling on commission and their employers ; the, former paying to the latter the interest of the ave rage balance retained in their hands—whereas these Dutch Commissioners retained an immense balance ; some part of which they ate discovered to have ton- Alerted to personal gain, even by negotiating private bills of exchange with it ; they admit that they never meant to place the whole of the interest actually re ceived, to the national account ; and still less that• which might have been received from the more active employment of the money. But their intentions will be plain enough from these citcuritstances, that of the ; public money etnployed at interest they made no mi-; • mute ; no proof of such employment appears in their cash-book ; and when required by the Comtnittee, to give an account of their fees and other emoluments, they directly stated that they had " no sAary,, fees, or emoluments," but that commission which they deno• minated the usual one. so Majority --148 The MICRETARY at WAR presente4 an Account of Fees received at his Office from January. 1808, to 1809. 0 Mr. HUSKISsON moved that their be :lid on the table an Account of the unpaid Charges on the Conaolidated Fund for the same period.—Ordered.—Adjt.ortied. For Lord Felkstonv's Motion Against it - I LONDON. TUESDAY, APRIL 18. PRICE OF KFOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. Comols, for money, GiLi—for May 681 1 ,-4 per C. 67V4-. German Papers to the 25th ult. and Swedish to the 9th instant, have arrived. The news in the for mer is not very recent, nor do they furnish any on which an opinion can be formed of the probability of hostilities between France and Austria, or the contrary. This morning arrived Mails from the Mediterranean, &c. brought to Falmouth by the Lord I :obart packet, in twenty-me days from Cadiz. Lisbon Gazettes and Letters, the former to the 26th, the latter to the 27th ult. have arrived. The people of Lisbon had not been informed of the cap ture of Oporto by the enemy. Accounts had reached them that the French occupied a neighbouring vil. lage, and they were supposed to be on their march towords Lisbon. The British troops were in high spirits, and impatient to meet the enemy. We yesterday received letters from Gibraltar to the 17th ult. The accounts received there from the province; of Spain bordering on the Mediterranean state, that nu merous armies are organizing, and every city is pre paring to emulate Saragossa, in resisting the enemy to the last extremity. The Arragonese are represented as by no means dispirited with the fall of their capital, which has only served to increase their inveteracy and hatred against the French. Every man who can find a mus ket is in arms against them, nor could this country possibly render the Patriots a more essential service than by sending at least one hundred thousand stand of arms to be distributed in the provinces along the coast of the Mediterranean. This would be employ ing the resources of the country more to the annoy ance of the enemy than any other measure that can be adopted. If Spain is to be freed from (h 2 tyranny of her enemy, it must be by the efforts of her own population. " GIBRALTAR,. MARCH 17. " Yesterday arrived the HIND, and the convoy from Mslta fo,- England ; also the PREVOVANTC, " The Tunttes and P.BUNunscr, with the convoy from Eng land, arrived here three days ago, in twelve d::ys passay. The AN) t.Lo frigate sails to-morrow with those bound to Malta.— The SUCCESS frigate passed through yesterday from the Eastward, under a crowd of sail, for England." We have received Jamaica Papers to the 25th of February, brought by the Cornwallis packet. They contain some congratulatory addresses in favour of the House of Assembly, for its resistance to the Exe cutive Power, and several orders from the Honourable P. REDWOOD, Chief Justice, to assimilate the forms of proceeding in the Supreme Court of Judicature of the Island to those established in the King's Bench in this country. These papers also contain the details of seve ral partial successes obtained by the Spanish Patriots of Hispaniola, against the French troops in that island ; the latter have been driven into the city of Santo Do ' mingo. It we are to believe the accounts given in these papers, PETION has sent 1200 troops, with am murlition, to the assistance of the Patriots in St. Do ' mingo. A Spanish national schooner had arrived at the latter place from the Havannah with money and ammunition ; but such was the patriotism displayed by the Spanish soldiers that they refused taking any money; they said it was only arms they wanted, and to be conducted to the assault of the city. It also appears, that pending these transactions, the country was so distressed, that Mr. PITT, the Finance Minister, not knowing how to raise money for the public service, did actually apply to these very Com missioners for assistance, which they, with an aug menting balance of X 190,000 in their hands, declined to afford him, concealing their possession of such a sum ; and refusing the country's money to supply the wants of the country. Fhe other point to which we shall now advert is the immense charge made by the Commissioners upon the sale of vessels and cargoes. This, as the Report states, demands a farther investigattorn Perhaps it will hardly be thought credible, that the whole of the gross proceeds of all the vessels sold, amounting. to* one million nine hundred and thirty-three thousrancr pounds ; the charges upon these proceeds (no item of which is stated) exclusive of commission, restitutions to claimants, and grants to captors, amount to more than one third of the money. The following is the full statement of all the particulars It was reported on 'Change yesterday, that the Spaniards, encamped in La Mancha, on hearing of the march of the Duke of Bta.i.uxo towards Badajos, had precipitately advanced through Toledo and Aranjuez, and had taken possession of the capital, after an engagement with about 8000 of the ememy who were in garrison at the ketiro. We place no reliance on this rumour. The three brigades of German Light Horse, which were at 'Woodbridge, have received a route for Ports. mouth, where they are to embark for Portugal. One of these brigades passed through London yesterday morning. The troops in the Essex District have been directed to hold themselves in readiness for foreign service. Saturday se'nnight, as Mrs. BRYDGES, of Wooten Court, in Kent, accompanied by a Gentleman and a female friend, an old lady of seventy seven, were . going from Abingdon t Farrir.gdon, the horseS took fright and set off at full gallop, occasioned by the imprudence of some person firing off a gun close to the road-side, the carriage was overturned, and the old lady had both her arms broken, and received a vio lent contusion on her head, Mr. BuYnors the gentle man and female servant (who sat on the driving seat) were also extremely hurt, and the carriage shattered almost to pieces. No blame whatsoever is imputed to the driver. Tile charges were - - Conimission charged - Restitutions to claimants - Grants to captors - - Leaving a net amount of '- From which was further to be deducted on account of loss on ships in debt (that is, on ships, the 52,657 charges on which exceeded the proceeds) Leaving at that time the estimated net sum of £977,269 SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. PLYMOUTH AND PLYMOUTH DOCK, APRIL 15. It appears by a paper dat e d 29th April 1808, that the gross amount of the produce of the ships and of the ships and cargoes sold, (of which cargoes your Committee perceive, that much the larger part was sold by the East India Company), was £1,937,064 631,239 88,164 907,187 69,988 11;746 ;G1,029,927 We have nothing to add, but that we sincerely [agree in the suggestion of the Committee, that the article of charges required a farther investigation. NEWMARKET FIRST SPRING MEETING, 1800. MONDAY, APRIL 17. I.(i Lowther's Loiterer, 7st. llb beat Gen. Prosvenor's Wood well-head, 7st. sib. B.C. 50gs —Two to 1 apt Loiterer. Mr. Shakespear's Brainworm, 71b. brat Mr. Croft's Bac chanal, Sst. 51b. Across the Flat, lOugs. h. ft.—Seven to 4 Lipt Brainworm. The Prince's Stakes of 100 gs. each, h. ft. for Colts carrying Bst. 71b. and Fillies 86t. 41b. Arose the Flat. Rising S yrs old. Mr. Mellish's b. c. Cock Robin . - - - - 1 Mr. Mellish's b. c. Levant, by Don Quixotte , - Duke of Grafton's c. Doleful, by Sorcerer, out of Bounty 3 Mr. Mellish's b. c. Knavery, by Don Quixotte - . Gen Gower's ch. c. Centipes, by Waxy, out of Tarantula 5 Five to 2 agst Cock Robin ; 5 to S agst Levant. IA Sackville's Deceiver, 9st. 91b. beat Mr. Vansittart's Bur leigh, 75t.121b. Ab. M. 200 gs. h. ft.-7 to 4 agst Deceiver. Sir J. Shelley's c. Vexation , by Waxy, out of Julia, Bst. 21b. beat Mr. Lake s b. E by Guildford, out of a sister to Oatlands, ist. 131 b. Two-yr old Course, 200 gs. h. ft.-2 to lon Vexation. Duke of Grafton's Miltonia, beat 14 Foley's Weaver, Bst. 21b. each. R.M. 50gs.—Even betting Mr. Vansittart's f. by Whiskey, out of Regulator's dam, beat D. of Grafton's f. by Sorcerer, out of Peppermint, Bst. 41b. each. R.M. 100 gs. h. ft.-6 to 4on Mr. Vausii tart's filly. Sweepstakes of 9.00g5. each, h. ft. B.C. for Colts Bst. 71b. and Fil lies Bst. 21b. Rising 4 yrs old. The owner of the second horse to receive back his stake. Sir H. Williamson's Pan, by St. George Duke of Grafton's br. c. Vandyke 14 Grosvenor's b. c. Chester - - - - - 3 Six to .5 agst Pan ; 6 to 5 agst Vandyke. Came in the Intelligent gun brig from Lisbon ; Martial gun brig from the westward ; the Kniphausen galliot Dre Goode Sack, last from Falmouth, in ballast ; and the Hazard, Rowet, from Fowey. Sailed the Eliza, Hodge, for Alderney ; Prince, Shaw, for Hayti ; Danish ship Peter, Payne, for London ; and the Red ruth, Moyse, for Swansea, with copper ore. Also sailed the Phccnix, of 36 guns, for Portsmouth ; Statira, of 40 guns, Que • bec, of 36, and the Attack gun brig, on a mire. APRIL 16.—Rear Admiral Harvey yesterday struck his Bag on board the Toimant, and hoisted it on board the l'hiebe frigate, in llarnpool, where he will rensain till the termination of the Court or Courts Martial, about to be assembles]. PORTSMOUTH, APRIL 17. Arrived his Majesty's ship Protector with a convoy from the Downs. Sailed Isis Majesty's ships Frederick stein and bonne Citoyenne with the expedition fur Portug.sl. I Majesty's ship Lavinia is appointed convoy for the East Indies, and Avenger fur the Downs. Wind N E. HARWICH, APRIL 17. Sailed yesterday the Prince of Wales packet, Captain Maxon, for Gottenburgh, with nulls and passengers; and the Lady Frances, Captain Rutter, tOr Heligoland. Arrived last night the Atsckland packet, Captain Pridge ; and the licaufoy, Captain Norris, with mails and passengers from Gottenburgh ; and this morning the Lady Neiman, Captain Irving, with di , patches from Gottenburgh—she brings 'no mail. YARMOUTH, APRIL 1 7. _ _ Arrived last eveuing his Majesty's brig Driseis from Heligo land, and landed a Mes.4c tiger charged with dispatches. Sailed on Saturday, P. M. his Majesty's ship Alfred, of 7a guits, for the N ore, and in going tip, she got on shore on Aldborough Neaps, and knocked off her rudder, but has since got off. This morning his Majesty's brigs Briton= mut C.:barger .ailed to her aosistancr. was asnxious to do sc as, f n d from the k case of theho suspicio c; r peo ple, w were finding t h a t the moti i ,ll as he imaginec titat it was one of a dercv was to put whc cut an y specific cha could not concur in bound to dissent Iron wou ld wait till either well able as he was, c particular charges ag Mr. PONSONBY cured of protecting w illingly expose abu where delinquency, w; st ored the existence c t he state, without an) proved of it. If th ample of the Honour forward the charges Chief —if he specifica individuals against would have every red for. The Honourat luded had stated hi stated how he mean ground for accusatic hound to do who mo such thing was d some collateral pc aged, in order to cri Gcvernment. He cc left the House so mu more averse to if fror with whom it origin with delinquency—( dor them all as knav , inclined to support a he would take upon 1 and as positively to that House as far ab preferred the charge must further say, tho ci any of them who 1 nester men than he disposed to go as far as any man ; but he c vague and general it Ir. HUTCHINf with a silent vote on He would support t and would br;efiv eta this as a most awful improper motives tc lively long been of which the Governmc not such as ought to titer misfortune to thought that if it •rai consequences might which thc se in that might live. Therefor of grantino- those un: posed Cu vest in this C prejudice or partialit vote for the Noble I times, considering t thought that the env, ought not to be stifle the Noble Lord was before the Commits and he could concei. rational reasons for present. Understar not particularly aga any other, but genet duty to support it. tutions of the count] given of that venera . which had crept int( struction. The gre rem of corruption a be the design of the ceiving it, notwithst well calculated for t to give it all the sup Mr. CHARLES understood the motif