Star. — London, England, 1819-11-24 00:00:00

~ ~ , 1 S .': • • i • -,-- - - to inform the Home, that the general efeet of the.e proceedings at Manchester, and subsequent t) it, had been to engender an alarm that the Li berty of the Subject was likely to be endangered. He had spoken of Manchester, but forbore to give an cyinion on it, otherwise than that there should be true inquiry into it. He would now add, that if Mi rilsters and that House had determined to put down murmurs of the People by military force and ea:xi:ion, it was in vain for him ever again to raise his head in •their defence—(flear, hear). If no in quiry was niade now, we were to be henceforward at the mercy of the Ministers ; and the natural conse quance would be, to draw that line of distinction be tween toe higher classes and the lower, which was the curse of every country—(flcar. hear). The ex ample of France should not be lost. The circum stances of this country and those at the beginning of the French Revolution were very similar; and if some consideration and. attention had been paid to the complaint of, - abuses, the consequences that fol -lowed would never have been: In place of that, every institution, however old, was supported, and every man was deemed a Jacobin who opposed them, until, by a perseverance in this blindness, a con •ulsion took place, which swallowed up every thing.— He begged the House once more to discriminate be tween the Radicals who were in no force, and the great mass of, the population, whose eyes were tuined towards the proceedings in that House, but not with the most friendly dispositions, on account of the in difference which they supposed it had to their ihte- Jests. Yet they had devoted their lives and fortunes to its support, and in return it was incumbent o.n the House to convince them that the support and asser tion of their rights were amongst the first and most important of their duties. The Right Honourable Gentleman sat down amidst the most general and continued cheers. He then rose again, and proposed. as Amendment to the Address, which was, in sub stance, the sante as that moved in the House of Lords by Earl Grey. The Marquis of TAVISTOCK rose to second the Amendment. He recommended a calm and dispas sionate inquiry into the trar.sactions at 'Manchester, with no other view; than public justice and interest. The Noble Lord then eulogized the character of Earl Fitzwilliarn. and in warm terms censured his dismis sal. It. WAS melancholy to see things conie to that pass, that the Administration could "not support themselves without standing armies, and further in cicasing that force, by an addition of ten or twelve thousand men. Discontent prevailed in the country, which was owing to the want of confidence in the Parliament, and the great difference there was be t 4 - ..:11 the votes of this House and the sense of the People, as expressed so late as the General Election— (lkar, hoar). He thought it inju.iicious to abolish the Property Tar, and declared his intention of sup porting a renewal of it, but only on condition that the resources of the State should be economized— (Near, hear). The breach with the People was not yet too wide to be repaired. The Noble Lord con cluded by stating, that the People were very patient, under all their privations, and that it was the height of impolicy and injustice to treat them in the way they had been treated at Manchester, and to incite them still more to discontent—t Hear, hear). The question, after some arrangement with Mr. Ttritxxv, ha ':ng been put from the Chair, Lord CASTLEREAGH rose.--The line of dis- cuision which had just beets adopted by the Mover aud Seconder of the Amendment, made it necessary for him to address the House somewhat more at length on the present occasion than he had originally iatended. ,The House would feel that there never was i pericid in which Ministers were more sensible of their responsibility than at present; nothing but a deep sense of the condition in which the country at present stood, had made it imperative to call upon Parliament to undertake, at such a time, the solemn tack of deliberation; and if Ministers had not taken such a step, they could not have reconciled theircop du:a with the obvious interests of the State. It had beea recommended by the opposite side of the House to carry temper into the discussion of the , topics which at present agitate the public mind. The Right . Honourable Gentleman,. however, had not given an example of that good temper, when he declared that the House was losing the confidence of the Country. Ile (the Noble Lord) contended, that the House had always sheen that anxious attention to the real rests of the People which entitled it to the confidence of the Nation—a confidence which it had not log, nor had it deserved to lose--but which such speeches as that of the Right lion. Mover of the Amend ment was calculated to impair. The House would, however, notwithstanding such speeches, cdntinue to het ditlicalties at home with the same intrepid spi r.c an.: calm intelligence which distinguished its de -I.betations when coping with the more dangerous cir cumstances Which lately assailed the Nation (torn a'...road, and through which it had so gloriously borne it into security and triumph. Ile had no doubt that, if the House found it necessary, from recent events, to interfere in the administration of justice-- :oaf it could constitutionally do sos—it would, even ia the difficulties which such au exertion of its audio - ri:y would have to cncou.ttcr, still conduct itself in such a way as to augment the confidence of the People in respect to its wisdom and integrity. The Itighafon. Mover of the Amendment had set out with objecting to the Address, that it did not state 'any definite measures which it would be necessary to follow up, shill respect to the events that had called for the early meeting of Parliament. Bet (said the Noble Lard) has the Amendment supplied that defect ?—.. Does it lay down any precise plait, or state any dis• tiuct notions relative to existias circumstances? . No such thing—it contains nothing but general state menu, except in the solitary, instance of its allusion to the transactions at Manchester ; in that point alone it differs from the substance of the Address to the Throne. The rest is nothing but general phraseo 103y, without any chtim to particular and specific statement. The Noble Lord then proceeded to s-y, that it was his intention, on the morrow, to lay on the table certain infornration relative to the State of I the N.ition, which information was of that description f which did not previously require the examination of a Committee, but could at once come before the in spectiOn of the house. Far this purpose the Mem hers would receive it in a printed form, and the House would then he able to judge, on the best grnunde, of the eligibility of going into the investigation.. —lf he now proceedei to answer any questions which had been put to him, respecting C.:: Man chester Magistrates, he trusted it would be recol lected that this task 'was not voluntar:ly unier taken, but that it had been forced upon him. The I:i b , rht Hon. Gentleman had asked, what could a crowd of men, women, and children do, when their leader had been taken without resistance' . To this he would say (so far as he was informed); this was a per fectly false view of the que:Aion. It was never in the contemplation of the Magistrates to disperse that Meet ing as it was dispersed, more than it was in t!leir con templation, on the preceding day, to disperse it at all. The No . ale Lord then alluded to the caption of Harrison, and remarked upon the manner in which the Magistrate, under whose warrant that arrest had been effected, was eliminated by party malevolence. lie expressed a hope that the Magistrates would be always found as feitOfelly and intrepidly at their post as on the occasions he had mentioned e undismayed by any exist ' bition of popular force, or the most compact assemblages eif sediceati. Harrison 'aid fled lions Mauchester, and the Magis trate who had ordered his arrest in the midst of a crowd of his I adherents, only shewed that the lawn were, under no circum etances, to be violated with impunity. It had been asked, if the Meetiag Was to be dispersed by a military force, why the ser vices of Yeomanry had been preferred for that purpose? It was strange that the Bight lion. Gentleman (Mr. Tierney) should, on this occasion, object to the employment of a force so consti tutionaL That Gentleman had, on other occasions, always main tained that the liberties of the subject were best entrusted fettle protection of hissMajesty'er liege subjects, and that the employ ment of the King's lreops in aid of the Civil Power, was a sure indication of the approach of a military despotism; but that Right Hon. Gentleman, said the Noble Lord, is infatuated with the true spirit of opposition, and blows hot and cold with more vigour than consistency. The fact was, that the Magistrates had no thing whatever to do with the military arrangements, they were under the direction el Colonel L'Estrange. Witlt respect to the violence which afterwards occurred, it was to be observed,, 'that the Magistrates had no idea of dispersing the Meeting by j the active exertions of the. Cavalry. Although the Netting had shewed itself to be of a traitorous character, yet every precaution was taken, in respect. to its dispersion, which the law required. That dispersion was not attempted until the Riot Act had been read from the window of the room where the Magistrates were. A Magistrate bad been, likewise, sent into the crowd with the Riot Act, for the purpose of reading it there, but was trampled on by the mob. .a third Magistrate had been sent to the hust ings with the Riot Act in his hand, that no man in the crowd might be ignorant of he contents : but he was not allowed to read it. If no further precautions were taken, it was not to be too charitable towards the Magistrates to believe that more was not in their power. 'The mit - um:nate events that followed were occasioned, not by the cruelty of the Magistrates, but by the circumstance of the troops, at• the moment of the capture, being violently attacked by an armed mob—(Hear, hear, hear, and some murmurs). lie c o u ld, o f c ours e, only pleage hunselt that that wheat he had stated was his own haul. From the evidence given before the Coroner's Inquest, it was dear that the transactions in question did not occupy more time than five minutes, and that in a quarter of an hour, from the time Hunt made Isis appearance, the whole business was terminated,' and the Meeting completely dispersed —( blear, hear, hear).— He had called the multitude an arme4 mob. Ile was justified in doing so. 'They came armed wits stones and other missiles, and various weapons. The day before the Meeting took place, every stone was picked up on the place of meeting that could harm the human form, and on the day which followed the 16th, two cart-loads of stones were found on St. Peter's-field. Ile had further to state, that several persons had stationed them selves in some houses adjacent, who were aimed with pistols, and these pet sorts fired from the windows on the troops before the charge was made. When they heard so much of the cruelty of the troops, these things ought to be borne in mind. They served to skew that they had sufficient provocation to make them cruel; but the steternents which had been sent forth against l i them were gross exaggerations of what had taken place, or were wholly u..iounded. Whatever might be thought of their con duct, and he was concerned to see some persons, for whom he had the highest respect, suffering their feelings to cutatrip their judgment, and reiterating charges against the Military, which embodied almost every imaginable outrage, he firmly believed that they had done nothing but what they would be able to justify in the face of their courory—(llrar, hear, hear). — The Noble Lord made many other observations in justification of the interference of the military, and the proceedings of the Magistrates in the case of Mr. Hunt, and said it was not the Magistracies who were afraid to look the laws in the face, but the innocent, unollimding, and most caltunnieted •Radicals-- these were the men who had delayed justice by traversing the indictments, thereby spewing that they were not prepared to prove that innocence of which they had so loudly boasted. The party who were so anxious for a Parliamentary inquiry, had not availed themselves of all the means of legal redress which lay open to them. It was true that bills had been preferred to the brand Jury of Lancaster, against 'bur or five of the Yeomanry alleged to have cut and maimed certain persons on the day alluded to. But it was remarkable, that not a ;baste indictment bad been preferred against either Officers or Magistrates, which would have been the natural course, if the merits of the legal question were to be tried. In 1768, more lives had been lost in the riot before the King's Bench Prison than at Manchester, and on that occasion the Officer was tried and acquitted. The Courts were at present open, and willing to give toe proper redress. But k had been . said, hew were such indigent people as the eullerers at Manchester to obtain satisfaction at law? But their indigence could be no arguatelit in the present case, for if they were able to indict five of the Yeomanry, they were as capable of indict ing five or the Magistrates. The fact was, however, that the char ees against the Magistrates were not meant to answer the ends of Justice, but for the purpose of in!lammatiun and deceit. dm. The Noble Lord then observed, that even the plea of indigence was removed . by the curious list of subscriptions, and the reasons annexed tothem ; if the bum so contributed had been properly applied, it mast have been more than sufficient for civil proceedings, and would suffice to sift the business to the bottom. It was erroneous to say that Alinisters had prejudged tb_ ques tion, because they had expressed their approbetion of the con duct of the Magistrates. The Noble lord rested this past of the case upon the relation which exists, and must necessarily be sup poi ted, between the highest end the inferior Constituted Autho rities, and had nothing to do with procesdlegs In Courts of Law. Ile also adduced the precedents of the riots at Ely, and at Mee ,chester on a former oectoion, to slim that it was not a novel act of Government; and maintained that Ministers had received the most accurate intelligence which could be obtained before they publicly expressed their opinion. 'They had the report of Colouel L'Estrange, of a Su goon who attended on the spot, an.: also of a Magistrate and Co: stable, deputed by the Beech.of Magistrates to give an accoaet et' the transaction. The step was net taken even under those ceounistances without advisieg with the Law Officers of the Crown ; and he added, that from what bad transpired,lf he (Lord Ca s tl ereag h) h a d to express , Mon again, he would do it at least as strongly as before. The' Noble Lord next adverted to the subject of Earl Phew:them.' dis missal, and spoke in a complimentary manner of his character. He also expressed himself widen to believe that his conduct was b G ee ci n v Government el ed s h nb o tyc u et ld ta b rp e yu e bt n ol a i c b u l ae e cp d t: t io o vfe p lun l :ari a e dictated by the most cons c i entous mot i ve; but contended that. a d a tsLi eute confidence na n w t s h , which cha Fitzwilliem, and theref o re i t Of that Commission, which, by such acts, he had virtually re signed. Tne Noble Lord then entered into a detail of the par ticulars el the Meeting at York, and reprehended the coaduct of Isarl Fitzwilliern in having stood by the side ef Mr. %eater on the hustings, and observed, that the King's Commisiion was never so disgraced before.—lie also animadverted upon the Meeting at Sheffield, where banners were carried, inscribed with the names of his Lordehip and the Radical Re formers of Yorkshire. Ile said that twenty thousand men bad gone armed, or the greater part of them, to that Meet ing. In order to show that the Noble Earl was considered by [the Refenners as one of themselves, his Lordship read a passage front a. pericdical paper, call e d Tie Black Mewl, in which it w.s sail, that in case of redress being tettised, his Lend-hip v. es pleOged to imitate his noble ancestor, who, at' Ilmefitmeae, h spoinencetoly drawn the sword, to teach the tyrant John, that the rights et the people could be vindicated,' at d the i r iiquriee avenged. Ile hoped the House would suspend their jitteoncnt nit the conduct of men who could be actuated by tia nae.ives of sell nacres'. Ile was willing to own that a case magic: arise, in whi:h the 'conduct of Magistrates might call For inquiry; but the preseet wan toa complicated in all its (monks. Tire present was a e itiealthuc. ile was far fr,pro considering that all who Attend these tumultuous Meetings were i"-edisposed towards the Constitution. Ile hoped they would be recleaned from their errors. lie had liveii too mush in times of rebellion net to know that many may be deluded for the munitut, who - -'-.--- .-- ~:- r in'tenwerds become f, ithful eetjects and supporters of the Con stitution—that a great proportion of the People wea exempt from the taint, he firmly believed, enough to secure the Throne from danger; kit it could nut be ccemaled, that there. was a very large body of men in titli country, acted upon by the most daring and darteerous aeitaters, whose only object was rapine and blood. We had the example et a reighbouring country to warn us of our denger—(llear). Ile had no fear, however, but that • the ,Constitutiots of I'4land would continue to sustain its glory, and spread ite blessings to the latest posto ity. Er. BOOTLE is ILIIRAIIA2.I felt it necessary, ass Magi strate of the County of Lineaster, and a Mt tuber of the Grand Jury, to say a few words respective, the transactions at Man. cheater. Of the particular facts which came before them, he was bound by his.onth to say nothing ; but thus much he might say, that the Grata Jtiry separated, perfectly coeviticed that the Ma ' gistraies of Manchester :feted on the 16th of August with the most perfect propriety. Mi. COKE thought it right to say, and he felt extremely happy that an occasion thus presented itself to bins fur assuring the Home that he was mispdarmed on• the subject of Major Cuch rane's Interference with the Military, and he. was very anxious to have itnunderstood that he was mistaken on that 'milt. Lnsd MILTON entered into an explanetion wish regard to the arrangements of the Yorkshire Meeting, and endeavoured to justify the motives which induced him to separate himself from the party to which Mr. S. Wortley, and several (Tentkmen in the same County, attached themselves. The fact was, that Mr. Wortley had only declined :a act with the Meeting at York, be cause the Gentlemen who signed the kle:Misition had declined to adopt his Loyal Resolutions. The words which his lion. Friend made use of were—" If you agree with me, and admit my Wool u. dons, I shall prevail on my friends to agree with me, and sup port your liesolutioes."--elle had refused to adopt Mr. Wortley's Resolutions, because he did not think, that, when they were calling for inns uiry into the ttenteurtions at Manchester, they should mix up propositions that should be discussed elsewhere. Mr. S. WORTLEY felt anxious that his conduct should be explained, as far as it was concerned in the transaction alluded to by the Noble Lord (Milton). It was very true that when he spoke to his Noble Friend on the subject he bud alluded to, he did say he would endedvour to prevail upon his friends to agree with him. The next day, in order to prevent mistake on this subject, he put his conversation into writing. It was thus: 0 Will you throw us off, to hold with men who CAA have no other object in view than to destroy the Constituticti ?"—(llear hear). This was the advice he had given his Noble Friend, bet be had not thought it right to adhere to it. Ile would not, my that there was no ground for inquiring into the transactions at Manchester, but he would say, that had it not been for the shuffling of those connected with that occurrence, such inquiry would long since have been obtained. He protested, however. against inquiry at the Bar of that House, because it was itnpos : sable that a Court of Justice, composed of six hundred persons, could be suited to that purpose. The Courts of Law were the places adapted to the ends of justice in those cases. A Meeting at Coventry had been dispersed, whether right or wrong, in a similar manner to that of Manchester. In that case the Cum of Kiog's Bench had been app'ied to in the first instance, and that Court evinced no disposition to refuse justice. lie trusted that a large majority would vote for the original Address, and convince the House and the country how they feel on the subjt.ct. Sir J. MACKINTOSH supported the Amendment. lie said, that the history of the world, and particularly that of Inc. dent times, fully proved the tenger of resisting the progress of opinion, by means of force; and that, even when eestrictive or dinances might be necessary, the operation was sure to produce a very dangerous degree of irritation an:ougat the community. Fully condemning, as he did, all violent attempts at Reform on the part of the People, he thought that such a reform of abuses might be effected as would conciliate the Empire, and restore its confidence in the wisdom of the Government. He urged the expediency of inquiry, upon the ground.of the necessity of conciliation. He then animadverted en the pre.natureexpressions of approbation given by Ministers to the Manchester Magistrates Ile then cited several precedents in which inquiry had taken place by that House, in cases nearly similar to that at Manches ter, and contended, that none of the proceedings now pending at law would touch the question, as.to the regality or illegality of the conduct of the Magistrates. He then endeavoured to shew, that no evidence had been in the possession of the Magis trates previous to the arrest of Mr. Hunt, sufficient to justify the measures they took, and that although their conduct might not have been such as to be reached by a criminal prosecution, still it might have been sufficiently criminal to call for their dis missal from their Commissions. Me groat question was, did or did not these Magistrates endanger the lives of 50,000 subjects without that necessity having been alleged to exist capable oft justifying the att? This was the question, and he trusted that, for the honour of that House,. in the name of the Con stitution which they all venerated, that an inquiry might be im mediately set on foot. The Parliament ought to lay aside every subordinate consideration to support the rights of the subject. lie eulogized Earl Fitzwilliens's conduct, and said, that ir. dis missing him from his situation, the Ministers seemed to adopt the maxim of the ancient tyrant— " Virtutem ipsam exscindere." The name of Mr. Wooler was coupled with that of Earl Fitz williarn, for no other purpose than to excite prejudice. Ile con cluded by supporting the Amendment. Mr. PLUNKETT thought the present question had nothing to do with Lord Fitzwilliam : it ought to be kept dietinct from every other. He was in no fear of a revolution in this country, but he was apprehensive of an attempt at it. lie saw a - class of individuals, whose object appeared evidently to plunder every one who had property; he saw them sending blasphemous pub • lications into the world ; and he saw the principal political Mountebank, the itinerant politician, assisting at the orgies of the Blasphemer. After this, could there be any doubt of the object of this individual, and those who acted with him?— With respect to the hlanchester Magistrates, unless a strong ease was made out against them, there was, nu ground for going out of the usual course, and to adopt Parliamentary inquiry.— • If any individual has been injured by them, he might proceed in the usual way, by action or otherwise. He had - Lensidered all the circumstances attending the Manchester Meeting; he did • not believe any man would be found bold enough to say this was a legal Meeting. Ile had no hesitation in declaring his opinion that it was an illegal Meeting—(linir).. "Wale a Per liarnentary Inquiry could be instituter, vn.: muse declare we had no confidence its the Public Functionaries, from the hlagistretes up to the Judges. If such 1 course was adopted, it would prove a damper to all loyal men; and no one would in nettle stand forward to discharge the dangerous duties of the Magistracy. Mr. SCARLETT said, that even if he were convinced that his Majesty's Ministers had not countenanced, or that the Man chester Magistrates had not acted as had been represented, he should have beep anxious for an inquiry into the transactions, .because he should have hoped that circumstances would have transpired, to remove the delusion that appeared to operate on the public mind. He thought his Hon. Friend who spoke last, could not have been so informed on the subject, as to justify him lin stating such strong and confident opinions--at least he never expected, on this side the Channel, to have heard of facts being ascertained previous to inquiry. 4 great difference of opinion prevailed upon the affair at Manchester, even amongst the most loyal people in this Country, as well as upon the disposition of Ministers to introduce the government of a Military despotism. He would not give any opinion on the nature of the Meeting at Manchester. The !ceders on that occasion might have been criminal, he believed they were criminal ; but why were hinds tens so supine on other occasions, and so particularly vienent }mon that! They suffered a Meeting at Smithfield, where COOP ditional allegiance was made one of the Resolutions: and yet they did not prosecute the man W . 40 had the hattlihood to pro. side at it, and affix 11:s name to such a species of Resolutions. These Resolutions embraced sedition if any Resolutions ever did ; and yet those Who assisted at such Meetings were never brought before the tribunals of the country. Nu riot was com mitted by the Myeting at Manchester up to the period of Hunt's arrest. Either,' then, he would, say, the Als.gistrates had the 'sower, or they had not the power, to put it down by force. If they could put ft down by force, why arrest Hunt as they did, and why nut have prevented it altogether? • But whateverthe character of the Meeting might be, the people were sabred and cut down; although he Was happy to hear the Noble jerd say, the Magistrates never intended that the Meeting should be so dispersed, he was afraid, however, that the people generally would not take that fact upon the mere assertion of the Noble Lord. The law gave a power to.the Civil Officer to arrest, and ' if any resistance was offered, then to nee force and compel a surretsler ; but no law gave ;int Civil or other officer a newer , of trample first, and out and maim the party or parties not hav ing resisted the order of such officers. Using,force et she outset could not be justified, nor should a man's brains be hunched onn because It was alleged be • as caught in the consinis.iuu of a misdemeenour. The people had a right to meet and posiggswier die redress of grievances, and however absurd their abjeett l aiit °P Llb 4i re it)ri d in d ig t h a t t bdeol he did evu. 0;iot ber itio t ns rha i t ""i des ille crip tilik tiotl T bsilbueingidhebeld le y shuld nth put th 1 , 6. tUtiOn. T'ac ha o sty nits em out of the iisters tp Public, to show that th:y wislul to ez^at •Pt:l6l yond wh.tt I rev authorised them to do. Aud il ie• state of the facts might be as to the memorable 1,4 el .. • he f. It afraid that after all he had h"a r d f ru , Members, the Public wohlel net be at;L:led meets .r 4 sertice.s whiria they ntade as to the int^ :mce of the ;-. 41 . '•• Niancheszer. lie always considered the t: as the Grand Inquest of the N.:tion, and ther:ere es geatelian th: people's liberties. Toe Leze t , l then concluded, by deciArlng it be, sitiled o:iniur,that lic inbea could not be tranquillized, nor thz thmeroir.ew utiles* the respectful pt.eyen teketeit of the per i l, more attendcd tee by that Home, which should he, bei of troth, could scarcely. be sak i to be—their hepresent:zi The ArronxEy-CEXF.RAL followed, at seeee amid loud cries for the questior, fur ar. Adjoar•er,..7 Sir W. I.IE CHESPIGN Y moved an Adjeurat.. et, was seconded by Sir R. Wilson, end supported by :gr. ;. Taylor. A divislun took pletsc--Ftr tat AcTa-tzat7, Against It, 31r. WILBERFORCE, in possessian of the Ilotto, be had spoken some time, Mr. IIUME rose, amid loud cries of " Qoeition, When silence seas. übtair.vd, he add, that, in order 'o t e t., 31ember an onicrtunity of stating hie opinion on this ... which, at this late hour, it was impossible tec do, he wet.: an Adjournment of the debate—(Cries of " No"). The . 31PEAKLIt.—What does the Dun. Member tam Mr. II U ME.—That this Debate he adjourned to thu The SPEAKEIL—I beg leave to submit the ehl!.....:aisa arises on this question. The House has already ea:Mb:J.O J) hate should not be adjourned. Mr. 111.731r..—Then I beg leave to move that the le e , now adjourn. The Gallery was then cleared for a division, but ne• place. Was lt ultimately agrages.that the Nltt planed to this day.—Adjouroed al . l____Li:-past Three WED ES )AY, NOVEMBER. 24, 1519. Fit .4.E OF ziOCKS THIS DAY A T ciNs o'cir rx! per C. Red. 65A—Ditto Consols, 67?, 68-3 i per C.'154 4 per CLat. 84ij3-5 per C. Navy luSi 1011, The opening of Parliament has at leNgth p tit in possession of the statement of the Maack Alagistrates of the e: eats that occurred on tteii of A ugust, and on which his Alajcsty'sMiaiiten induced to return thanks to these Magistrates. 1 mean not to say that we have now this sta:erni its first form ;we have more---we have it, Fez presume, in its corrected state : for the st.remer, Ministers on this subject last night must be c, 4 dered as the echo of the :klagistnial represent , 4 According to this statement, the Magistratci li i previous intention to disperse the Meeting: die i cessity for doing so arose out of the circarnstz 1 of the case. The crowd had come to the M ..• with NI ILITA RY PARADE and a DISPLAY BANNERS. EThaf is, good Header, not with tu. or uproar, but with that regularity and order w • is o 'ten witnessed in the AL:tropolis Ivll en the dill handicraft professions keep their annual holida. But these banners bore TREASONABLE INSCP: TIONS : how far the inset iptions alluded to v.! treasonable we know not, as Ministers have tw.t sti them. We know that several of them were pr..ci an echo of the sentiments toasted at the fcstivi!ilie both Whigs and Tories; and we know ba: 5..v..1 them were arrant nonsense: but none that were tr mitted to us, from the scene of action, appear-NI tir to be treasonable ; and we are rather incli ne d to tLi that none of them escaped our notice at the time. is possible, however, that th?re were other Bags; the Magistrates, it would appear, laid before his) jesty's Ministers many strange facts with which to of those even who attended the Meeting were all acquainted, though transacted before their ey The fact reminds us of the exclamation of one of; Generals of ALEXANDER TIDE GREAT, on teaJing account of the victories of his Army, in all of wI;U the General had been personally engaged. •• This said he, " is all very wonderful. I am surpr:7e.l• I did not see facts so singular and striking !"--Of . ' wonderful kind we consider. the fact to be "tin MAGISTRATE had been sent into the crowd read the Riot Act, but WAS TRAMPLED THE MOB." Of the same description is the as tact, that another Magistrate was sent to the ll•isti; with the Riot Act in his hand, that no man in& , crowd might be ignorant o f i ts contents , BUT WA! I NOT ALLOWED TO READ IT.—This, bon% may be true, and we wis'i it had been stated whor• vented him. We wish thi , because it is possible that zealolis and valiant Yeomanry, who could not distii• go ish between the Rioters and the Constables, butte down some of the hirer, were those who frig! te.:eith Magistrate from his purpose. Sure we are, chub! we been in his place, we would, like .'!ir Agueekeek, have found our courage oozing out attlx points of our fin7crs, when beholding the niaaly ivy of the ever to b_-a(linired Ver. &aunty. But the ..o. • ing, fact, and which must completely justify the 7.1 i, litary, is this: " Tots TROOPS wEitelqo!..l3.‘:TLl ASSAULTED BY THE SURROUNDING .4C41.: The only objection we have to the truth of this, of another fact stated, that the..multitude had ;, , or:e the Meeting armed—two cart load ofatones harntg,.l4.: next day collected on the ground, is, that none o f the witnesses--not even of those for the Yeomanry and MI• gistrates,who were examined before the Liquests,starni any such facts an oath. But our limit's prohibit us Ilan enlarging at present. The Reader himself be at so loss, from the ample report of the Debate on the :1i• dress given in our columns this day, to fr,rm a prat/ correct opinion of the statement on which returned Thanks to the Magistrates. 'Tad subs/ar.r. , : of the Amendment proposed in both Houses t' add an expres , .ion of the conviction, t.: - ,at th , .! which took place at Manchester called for ati .diligent, and impartial inquiry, on• the part of tad House, in order to prone that themeasures of which had been ;miler! to were.ithe result of !lc ment and rtnatoidible acce..sity, or that the Co . : •: -* tion may not be violnted, and the lire.; of the Pe. • sacrificed with. impruity. The Amendment was I. in the Peers, by a Nlajoz.ity of l!5. An Adjazi rnent was moved, and carristOn the Commons, were exceedingly numerous, no fewer than Members being present. SMITHFIELD MEETING.—THIS DAY.—This Meet: •ing, as. our Readers are aware, was called to know the answer which Lcrd SIDMOUTII had given to :.!.e late Petition and Remcinstrance. The assemblage %•••' most miserable. The answer of Lord Stnuouro, announced by Apothecary Warsos, was, that--h 4 had no answer to civet!! 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