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P4RLI4MENT.4IIr PROLEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, WEDNESDAY, JULY. The BIM on the Table were forwarded. The Report of the Committee of Precedents to which the Peti tions wen* Mr. Jake ion were yefterday remitted, wan receiv ed, declaring that the Petitions laboured under a fundamental in icemality, and Mall not be entertained by the Hoare The Marquis of A BERCORN thersapoe applied for and ob tained leave to withdraw the fame. The Agates In the Writ of Error Castle, Old v. jackfon, being called to the Bar, and godtiooed os the part of their Lortlibips, the H. ciressaftanced se the este then flood, ordered thejedr meet ache Court below to be dinned, with yol. cods. Evidence was beard in Mr. Llngbam's Divorce Bill, fair the ra pids of previa( Mrs. Liagisara's place of reildence. Not being able, however, to snake out their *bled, another witnefs was or dered to attend eas the lime point to-toorrow.—Adjoomoi HOUSE OF COMMONS. A Mins brassie op far the compeolition of camas Proprie • tars of Lead at Wedanbech, in the eionty of Northampton, for waft Lands that had been applied to the Me of his Majdty's Ortinarar, which was read a Selt dm, sod ordered to be rod s Inowid time waterrew. The Crafts Ordeance Mares read a fecond dew lad aola. el to be comittad trimmer. Sir }OHN SUSCLAM we sedating on litt&l ha mold tab- Mr. to the Ha* a abodes Make to he of Saits Ur. PILAUCIS waved, that there bo hid Were the t= an meow ef *mho elide:l4W reedved by Goverment tress the !at hails Orogsay, with the Mereft on it. which was me waft* erderod. Calm. STAXLET prebend the Moms taken by the Cara admit es the Faddism of the Calm Printers,which an the Bastion ads Measswebk Gendema, were ardsrod to the an the Tibia VII to bs adated. The Hoofs than went Isto a Commletee an Lady Meanies% Ilarvaky DA d which do Ream was ordered to be reelved to. Oa dm media ienitha Node s N purflawee err err Order el do Dez ei lha a sall iel ea atm a Osassettea *sow= ip.' STANLEYobjeaed to the nacafurefts ham kg a moodier Modestly pithom oaring any news& mintage. This BRI, he thought, Mama of dishillk kg estiol•lents a tendessey to multiply difpotes bon twee the mash and die jesesomen. It would have • tendency loprevent am of y frogs embark's* s the leads, which woad rove . pernicious to the weavers Ihemfdves. If they might judge kens die loosibiag lime ef the trade, so new regulation was accelkry. When be bed fug the bostour to fi r is that limes, that manufalture Wrought up only 55 mafioso of pounds of cotton annually. whereas the elortity stow required was not lefs than 56 millions, winch was a falicicat mold the flowißting Rate of the Mole. Ha was afraid, therefore, that any new regulations inlaid of improving Might retard its tads. Bbonld difputes arife between the journey.. men and their malters, as mu* no doubt be foam times the cafe, doors difpotes might, without any danger, continue to be fettled as formerly. They had hitherto been fettled at a very reafonable expense by the authority of the Magiftrates, and moll fre uendy, be believed, in favour of the men. The bit Gentleman argued befides, that by far theireater number of the weavers were perfectly fa tided with thins as they now flood, sod even did sot know that any fuels 'stature was going forward. He concluded by giving his negative to the motion. Hr. ROSE went into a detail of the circumflances that gave rife to the Bill of ,Soo, relating to this tub led. That Bill had either been defective in its pre..- .Mons, or its regulations had not been put in prac • tree. A Petition the year following had been re lented to the Houle from the journeymen, prating that the regulations adopted by the Bill, might be put in force, and lag year they had come forward *lto with another Petition of a (moiler nature. The Committee to which this Petition had been retested, bad come to a refoliition that a Bill &mild be brought in to make thofc regulations effective, but the Stilton was fa nearly at a dote, that this refolution could toot be conveniently carried into effect, and the pre form Bill therefore had been rubmitted to the Houle lot that porrk. The mailers themfelves, he hated, bad complamed that they were aggrieved by the Bill of shoo, as the men were allowed the feleelion of ar bitrators in cafes where difputes might Hifi. This 10 Dm therefore to provide agaiall filch complaints, as well as againit thufe of the men. By the prefent PAU. neither of the parties had the nomination of the orbitraton, but the Jolliet, of the Peace were to be welled with this privilege. The Bill, the Right Ho- Oollrabk Gentleman argued, was not propofed as a saw snearare, but merely as a means of rendering an old one effettnal. Mr. FRANCES thought, that the Hon, Member ("poke (Col. Stanley) had Rated a very important fad, which ought to have great influence with the Hoak. He bad told them, that the trade had made wary rapid progrefs, and had given them the data en which be founded this affertion. But it was impor able that anyjnanufaitory could flourdh to fuels an aztent, ante& it bad been properly condulted, and mach lets if its regulations were hollile to its prolpe rity. He argued, therefore, that the prelent exilling r: g ulatioss were fulficient for every porpofe, tither neeerny or expediency. The profperity of the saanufatlure was the bell proof that every thing was going on well, and they ought to be cautious not to interrupt this profperisy by any unneceirary mcafute. He did not think it at all neceffery, in re and to any difputes that might elite, to interfere with the autho. city of the Magittrates, or to take the, right of fet tling loch difputes out of their hands, in order to put ii into the hands of others. The divifion .was then called for, and the Gallery cleated, when there appeared for the motion 27, and againfl it 8, excinfively of the Tellers. The Hours having returned, the Report was or. dcrcd to be received to-morrow. Mr. HUSK ISSON brought up the Report of the Foreigners' Enlitiment Bill. On the quettion that the Amendments be read a re cond time, Mt. MOORE role, he laid, to trouble th e Ij ou fr with a few ntifervations on the Bill before them, not with any hope lie entertained, conlideling the Rate of the Houle and the Rage of the Bill, of 'nailing its progrcfs, but with a view only to cafe his own n•ind by a confeientious difeharge of his duty, io entering his folemn proteß againfk the Bill and the principle it implied. It was founded on the fame principlc,l,e that had been c , ntended for by the Right 11•.0. Chancellor of the Exchequer, in the year 179. i, on the landing of the HeMan troops on the lee of Wight, though then t hki.tiraged by aimoll catty one of his colleagues, than it was unconilitutional to introduce Foreign Troops, independently of the content of Parliament, as a pat t of his Mtjefi y't prerogative.— The majority of the Hoare on that or:cation fupportr, ed the !mature, but ice effeft was fuch as to incur the difapprobation of the country at large. It was in oppofition to the fpitit of the Conllitution, and of fered to it, he conceived, a revere wound. The pre fent Bill, he argued, was precifely of a fimilar na tut e, and went to fecond a precedent which had been fo unhappily permitted to exit. The Hon. Member , Paid he would not enter minutely into the Bill, but he would repeat the queftions that were put yederday to Minillers by his Hon. Friend on the fame bench (Mr. Francis). to which he bad now tome hopes of lan anfwer. bid this meafure, he Biked, originate in the Privy Council, and why did not this Bill, in the itfual form and language of fuch Bills, Rate that his Majefty, in this, afted by the advice and with the content of his Privy Council? The bell means, he thought, of removing objeitions, was for the Gentle men oppofite to give an explicit anfwer. The Hon. Gentleman then confidered the Bill as a rotator. of State, but no cafe had been made our, he raid, to thew that it had any foundation, either in neceliky or in found policy. He was not furprife , i, however, that there grounds bad not been retorted tn, as it could not have been maintained on any of them, without admitting that the prefent force of the country, amounting to above 800,000 men, was inadequate to its defence, and that to our difgrace we were to have recourfe to foreign mercenaries. The introduflion of foreign force into the country was not only tm conftitutional, but dangerous, he argued, in the ex- Sterne. In order to induce the Houfe more eafily to coolest to the routine, they were told in the Bill that thole troops were Hanoverians, and therefore fable& of the fame fovereign as ourfelves. This, however, he contended was not the cafe. The refute and (cum of Germany—at any rate, according to the bell of his information, the number of Hannverians did not exceed syoo, which was inconilderable when compared to the whole number propofed. They would be little to be depended on, he argued, in any farina trial. He complained that the Bill, notwith *snag its importance, had not been printed for the ufe of the Members. This ontiffion, he laid, and the tin more important ovnifflon in the preamble of the Bill to which he had before alluded, completely fixed on the meafore the charatfter he had given it. The Honourable Gentleman then requeßed the Houfe to look to the condua of Ireland on a fimilar occafion in 1779. When Lord Harcourt offered the Cervices of 4,000 foreign troops in room of a greater number that had been draughted to America, though Proteßants, they were rejeded by the Parliament of Ireland, who declared that they v °old accept of no foreign help, as they felt competent to defend them (elves, or if not that they were not worth defending, and this too was at a culls of danger when the com bined fleets of France and Spain, to our great alio &fitment, were in poffeffion of the channel. Inflcad of relying on foreigners, 50,000 Volunteers on that occafion prefented themfelves for the defence of their country, and were wifely trufled by the then Mi. niftry of England. This confidence, the refult of neceffity in England, was, neverthelefs, gratefully re ceived in Ireland, and from that moment leffened the difratisfaition that then prevailed in that country. He begged the Houle to contrail the effeCts of a well placed confidence with the effetts of a tyllem of r!- hellion that had lately been ton prevalent in Chat country. The Honourable Gentleman concluded by proteßing warmly againil every principle that went to encourage the introduaion of Foreign Forces, without the previous content of Patliament, as un sionliitutional and illegal. The Amendments were then read a fecund time, and ordered to be read a third time tomorrow. 1111614 CIFF•11111$. Mr. SMITH, from the tzebegoer OSee a Ireland, prefented ao atdrat of the headed debt of Ireland. On the 'patios Istin4 pot that the accounts &Geld be printed, Mr. CORRY role to beg the attention of the Houfe for a few minutes. He complained that eettainflate ments had been made on a former evening by the Right Honourable Gentleman oppofite (Mr. Foder) which went to attach blame to the late adminidration of Ireland. He was far from thinking that the Right Honourable Gentleman had intended any mike. prefentation, but at the fame time the flatements he had made were far from being corred, and the Houle, he was afraid, had been induced to draw from them conclufmns very unfavourable both to himfelf and to the government of Ireland. From the nature of the , fiatements that had been laid before them they mull srave drawn inferences very remote from the midi. He by no means imputed to the Right Honourable Gentleman a with Cu produce this effete, nor did he throw any obflacle in his way to the office that he undernond he would loon be publicly announced to occupy ; but he withed to vindicate Lord Haidwicke and others, and to thew that they were not liable to the imputation that the flatements he alluded to really bore. The Right Honourable Gentleman then at great length went into a minute view of the vari ous flatements that the Right Honourable Gentle man had made on a preceding night, in regard to a decreafe in the Irith Revenue, and the great balances in the hands of the collefb'rs. He dented that the revenue was much diminifhed, or that the balances in the hands of the colleaors were great in the man ner that had bean reprefented. An imprefflon had been made on the Houfe that above half it million re mained in the hands of the colleftors which ought to have been received : it would therefore be nectlfary ' for him to Rate to the Houle the nature of thole boo lances. In general, he Rated, that the balances were not cafh received, but charges that had not yet been available. Many of the balances, he Paid, arofe from infolvent a , and argued that fuch a would happen independently of the bell regulations The Right Honourable Gentleman then adverted to the debt of Ireland. He argued, that this debt had been neceffarily increafed lately owing to the impor tant and necelfary war in which we were engaged. Very ennfiderable additional eapences had been oc calioned, not only by preparations againfl a foreign enemy, but by providing alto again! the defigns and machinations of furls at home as had been infatnated enough to contemplate the overthrow of the Govern. ment. Other estraordinay erpencea alto bad been incurred liy winding up the Vain*, and by the cow that had been judged necedary to fuch as hid suffered b r that measure. He adverted alto to the Nate of the Revenue, and attempted to account for the apparent decreafe, a. it floodlit the ttatement of the Right Honourable Gentleman. Dining the troubles in Ireland the newts had been ealiatined and the watehoufea kft completely empty ; upon the re ( turn of tranquillity, thercfoie, a glut deal of is portation toot place, whiCh added very winch' to tie revenue of that year. He could ant but confider it, however. as unfair to compare a year of this defcrip lion with the one following, in which lets importation even than ufual would be neceffary, for the purpore of pointing out the decreafe of the revenue. He had intended, he faid, to bring forward a mature relat ing to the Abfentees from Ireland, which would have been produBive, he flattered himfelf. of confidemble advantage to the revenue, but certain circumikances had occurred that had prevented him from putting his defign in execution. He concluded by declaring. the fatisfadion he would have in regaining the good opinion of the Houle ' which he thought mull have been forfeited by the flatements which he had now attempted to corral. The Honourable Gentleman then moved That there be laid before the Houle a copy of the report of John Crotchet., Efq. giving an account of the proceedings of the Surveyor-General to the Commiffioners of the Cnßoms and Excife to ilka, as alfo to the Ltcß period that can be made out. On the qualioti being par, Mr. FOSTER rofe, in reply to the Right Honour able Gentleman who bad fat down. If, from the ftetements he had made, inferences had been drawn that were not agreeable, he could not confider himfelf as accountable. He had fisted the balances in the bands of the collators according to the title under which they had been returned. He had (fated them according to the documents put into his hands ; he was therefore jullifiable if he claffed them under the general title, as the items were not mentioned. He contended that from the very face of their own pa pers, there mug be blame attached fomewhere.— Could they have abed rightly, he allied, if from a fum of 2,5ci0.000L they allowed gco,ocol. which was one-fifth of the whole, to Rand back unpaid ? He did not mean to throw reflation on any individual, but meant only to Rate what he apprehended to be the cafe, that the money was detained, in progrefi, from the pockets of the fubjeit to the Exchequer, contrary to law. He again repeated, that what he had Rated he believed to be true, and that the parti cular accounts would come before the Houle next felLon, when it would be feen whether be had been miftaken or not. Mr. FRANCIS declared that the quellion relat ing to thefe balances was more furprifing to him now than it ever was before. When the Right Ho nourable Gentleman made his ftatemcnt on that point, it appeared very unfavourable to another Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Corry). He took that llatement as a charge againft the Govern ment. But the explanation (ince given by Mr Corry, -if correft, was completely fatisfadory. From that it appeared the rums were not in the Colleaora' hands, but were to be colleted. How was the Houfe ever to be informed upon thisfie ? Were the fume adually, or ought they to be, in the Collec tor's hands ; or was it, that they were not yet pay able ? If the Gentlemen of England were not in formed on this fad, they would go oat of the Houfe much diffatisfied. The Right Honourable Gentle man did not give a fatisfaaory anhrer. • Mr. FOSTER /aid, what be meant to contend was, that every farthing of anean mentioned in the paper before the Houfe, ought to have been collid ed, and in the Treafury of - Ireland ; that the arrears outftanding were thole which ought not to hoe. been fuffered to lie out. This was all be could fay at prefent ; there were various items in the balance, which would be laid before the Houle and might be examined hereafter ; upon thee he would give every information in his power ; but he could not fay any thing more on the fubjeft, till all the accounts were laid before the Hnufe. Mr. HAWTHORNE laid, that in order to be fatisfied whether the balances were aetually in the hands of the Collednrs, he applied to a Right Ho. nour able Friend of his, who was Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and from him he had learned, that a month's credit was given for the pay. meat of the duties on Excite ; but that the Collec tors were charged with the money for that time, al though they could not have received it. This was the reafon wny to much money appeared to be in their hands. He hoped this Ratement would remove any impredion that might have been made unfavour able to the Government of Ireland ; and that thofe who bad fuppofed her to be, from the flatements of the Right Honcurabe Gentleman, in a finking Rate, would now entertain a different opinion. Mt. FOSTER denied his having ever laid that Ireland was in a finking Rate; on the contrary, he had declared that, by *feat efforts, the was capable of nett letting all thofe difficulties. The moan of Mr. Cony was then agreed to. Mr. CORRY then moved, that there be laid be fore the Honfe, a copy of all the general orders it fued by the Cummiflmers of Eseile, &c. in IrelAnd, fines 'Soo, fur the better eollettion of the revenue.— Ordered. Mr. HUSKISSON obtained leave to bring in a Bill for appointing Commiffinners fnr the better car rying into circa the Property Tall A 49 of lall year. He alfo obtained leave to bring in a Bill to explain and amend feveralAftsrelAting to Hackney Coaches employed au &age Coaches. TN[ LOTTIIY. Mr. HUSKISSON then pee notice, an behalf of Mr. Pitt, litho woe now abfent, that it was the intention of Me Right Ho- nourable Friend, In the Committee of Supply an Monday ben, to flatiron to the Hook a motion relative to the Lottery. The SECRF TARP at WAR obtained leave to being In a Dill to permit the Paymaller-General of the forces, the Mancr-Oene ral of the Ordnance, the Barrack-Mailer General, Re. to fend and receive letter. free of pottage. Mr. POSTER, in a Conanditee of the whole Houle, obtained km to Whig In a BM foe canirrninti the Provilions of the Ad of the 3td of the King, fore/ mit prohibits the importation of inalt Into Ireland ; and for repealing the power granted to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, for prohibiting the ale of oats and oatmeal to diftineries. T►e Report was ►rought ap, t►e itatodutioo agreed to ►p t►e Houk; sod Mr. FOSTER. afterward, brought up t►e Bill ; which was read a 6rft, and ordered to he real a fecund Lime to- awccosu. Mr. FOSTER brought up a Rill to allow the ciretilatoin of Small Notes In Ireland. Rewla bra. and ordered to be read • fa rad date on Fr iday. He thee obtained leave to brier in a 15111 for the better Colley disa of the Revenues on Ireland. be Cotninnwes Sul ply and Ways and Mean, were put off tM On t►r MOtine of Mr. FOSTFR, the Hou(c went It a Cow mines on the t ern I apt.rtatirei U.J. In the Committee, Mr. PATIINON owned, that all the frac• dons of penes he flrnc► out of the rates ; which was agreed to.—. The Report was brought op, , ,and ordered to be re committed to 11110,11.0 W. The aka Osuir a et iks Day anti 40(p0k4 af.—..Adjearact LONDON. THURSDAY, JULY S. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK: Conf. for July 37f..Keducal 56-oinnlam 41 prem. 4 Per Com 13 t PRICE OP STOCICS YESTERDAY: Bask Stock Lon Attu EIS 9 if 4 3 Per Cent. Red. 511 , 6 lode Nods sa. a 31.dif. 3 per C. Cont. Mn. t Imperial 3 per C.cat. 541 55 4 far Cent. Sus Bills. so. it. parr. 5 pee Ont. Navy Mut Omoltun 4 4 Pte• 5 lar Caw 1 797 97ii Comokis for we. 57{ 57 By letters which came to band this morning from Deal, we have received form intelligence re (pelting Boulogne, which may be relied upon: • On the ad ltd. a boat was obferved by our (qua. drop to the weltward of Boulogne at a greater di. amice from the land than that to which Silting boats go in generaL The fignal being milk to cbace, the Locust came up with her, and fated in her two deferters from the French Army. They had taken a filling boat from Poftel at ten o'clock the evening before, with a view of joining our Beet then at an chor is Boulogne Bay ; but being unacquiinted with the art of managing a boat and having rowed againft• tide till they were almoß exhaufled, they drifted to the fituation in which they were found about ,three o'clock in the afternoon. According to the accounts given by tbefe eleferters, there are one hun dred thoufand men encamped at Ambkteufe, mercer, and on the right and left of E..apies ; and et Boulogne there are in the harbour and without it, one thoufzad flat-bottomed boats, lugger', brigs, and tranfports. The afith Regiment of Light Infantry are encamped behind Boulogne, and perform no other ferric; than working in the harbour and forts,. They Rate, likewife, 'that no more preparations are making for the invafson of this country. The ref. fell have had on board there there ten months pall, pieces of ordnance, for land ferries ; but they do not know when the attempt will be made. They contradict the report .of the Coronation of Bora parrs. and a&tr . •tpat be will not be crowned : he is, it is expefied the people of Paris will revolt: even a great many .of hie own countrymen are againk it. One of thefts deft rrrrr Pays, be was a Drum-major in the sth regiment of A►tillery, the other Was a Baking in she fame regiment, and both Rate, that they were difatisfied on being difgraced in the regiment,- but Mt viihkt account we have not been able to learn rrhey add, that great difcontent prevails throughout the whole army The litre letters inform us that the enemy basset peen veer Ludy Werra to be 'making any difpo. fitiott fee coming one ; but when our fleet is off Bow Mgrs, there are always abe ut forty-fia brigs and ft venty.fix luggsra lying. at anchor, under proteflion of their batteries. A great number of foldiers hay, been obferved Mortifies_ on the *oak, bet as far as our cruisers are able to judge, the troops feta on this fide of the eminence behind Boulogne,do not ex:. teed ten thoufand. Government has :waived difpatehes frnm the fleet ernizing off Brett, of the date of Thurfday laa, at which time the enemy continued to maintain an ap pearance that indicated a difpotition to put to fca on 'the firs favourable opportunity. Lord MILVILLS being indifpofed at Wimbledon, the difpatches have been forwarded to him there. The French force its Brea Water, and the Englith blockading fquadron, are now about equally matched. It is reported in the fleet, that two fail of the line lately efcaped from Rochfort. A private letter from Paris, dated June 24, re ceived in the City, via Holland, (fates, that the rapid return of the French Emperor to St. Cloud from Compiegne, was occafioned by intelligence fent to hies exprefs by the Minifler for Foreign Affairs, in consequence of the arrival of couriers from Peter& burgh and Vienna. It was otherwife his inteatiws to hale vifited the Coati. It is alto raid, on the fame autlority, that fume weighty reafons have been ad ductil for delaying the ceremony of the Imperial Co ronatinn till the month . of September. It is even pretended that a difemtery has been made of a new plot, that was to have been put in execution on the 14th of July, the annivirfary 'of the deflruetion of the Baftile, and the'tlaj originally intended • for the iniefliture of 80111011111 with the Imperial purple. The Mamhurgh Mails which became doe on Sun day and yefterday, arrived this day. The principal ankle received by them is a Copy of the N. to lattly delivered to the French Government by order of the Emperor of Rotor, relative is the vicla.ion cf rLe German territory in the aunt of the Doke d'Es- Gitlin, which we fubjoin. Some other articles, Alfa received by the Mail., are of conlicki able importance. &RUN, Juan a6.—Gencral H►orurrt.Ll, the French Ausb.itTAdar at the Court of /tiara, has ar rived here on his way to Paris: he is accompanied by Vsesos, M. Sr. Mats. and M. Pnunnommi. Hamituaom, Juue ao.—lntelligence has been re ceived lkre, that theie Ate at Cronttadt ten fail of the line and leveret fiqzates, completely equipped and ready to pot to lea. The Armament of gun b..att ordered by his SI. eorsi4 MAJr&TY, at Cottenhurgh. has been fo expeditious, that on the Bth fixicen of them had rcAcktcti Stralfund, the flace of their deaiteation.