Star. — London, England, 1819-12-18 00:00:00

. .. . ...• . . . O net forbeat 'adding tviel4ies, Which eienteined daring twzrity-four years of itar, entailed on the atlio the truth of w itch . was too,unfertunately conntry 'additional taxes to the amount of twenty- : t 1; moment, to make. it necessary for him to eight millions sterling. To meet this extraordinary :g e upon it : - call, extraordinary labour became necessary. The; '(fat t rade'syroud empire bastes to swift decay, manufactu:-er was compelled to toil seven days in the 0 1 3 ocean ayseps the tabooed mole away.". ' week instead of four, at. a reduced price, and thin ~.ov u le trespass on their Lordships patience with" more work was performed than formerly, while the :inn mores • • foreign demand for our goods was in an equal pro ," But a bad peasantry, their country's pride, portion diminished. -This caused the -distress, and uiVire? oncc•deWroy'd, ems never he supplied!" • this evil he would say grew out of the policy of the : ,ory Mutt! of SOO wretehed crearures being Government, whisji for twenty-four years had kept e ,!t , ogether," as it was emphatically the termed, in country at war. He contended, that these Bills is deefued to distant and almost unknown otight not to pass while inquiry was refused, and that ~.5 . .-nproi t there i he uncertain chance of finding some sympathy ought to he manifested by the Go ee existence which, they .could not procure at: vet-went for the sufferings of th e People. He , ye ; and packed and ". massed" like so-many bales. thought that the effect of the Bill, if it succeeded in ~:ir or tobacco, what were they to think of 7.he. 'putting down public discussion, would be to create ler:lment under which their misery had acct sisr private intrigues and conspiracies. still more danger :ei t o sash a height ? Could they acquit Ministers. pus. - " liad,not that been the case in France? Had l a guile.? Good Coe 1 they would not Surefie any Public Meetings preceded the Revolution? No; ir e the audacity to say, that it was brought on by. the Meetings of the Sessions consisted, at the utmost, ; iox4it! (Hear). No; it was brought on by the el fifty or sixty individuals ; and were not held is: the r 1,111 e; ursacd by - Noble Lord' opposite; the ha open d fl air, and it wits from them that the greatest part .usa irs were to be'found in their conduct. The of the subsequent evils haowed—( Hear, hear). — ;:.:ape fofthe vessel of the State, the only chance • He concluded by recommending to their Lordships ~ e ; prekivatiOn among - the rocks and ' perils which to show that they cared for the People, who, other 7-apacsed h.er, war, in that moderate Reform which wise, would neither care for them, nor maintain a al.; Arance and increase the purity, without en• p er respect for the Constitution. - • l e:ing the health and vigour of the Constitution . • • ~ tilii resistance to the injurious policy of Mi- The Earl Of LIVERPOOL did not believe that ex _u distresses vveie.the causes of the disturbances -.. conli only be opposed by one thing, and t hat which had taken plate, but that the individuals who ~.„, ;be sword, the pistol, er the dagger, but had occasioned those disturbances 'Would not have ',so ;iii:on ? Even to those who advocated Annual had the power of operating what they had done :.,:nentS and 'Universal Suffrage, te (Lord Gros without the aid of those distresses. Disaffection, in , I would pry, rest on your oars; if you are right, fact, did not exist amongst the most - -.is pai must succeed; if h e n wrorig in thii distressed, but w i t h annongst.those who received - more abundant salaries. iii fail—and yoli must then be satisfied Th i e Noble Earl wl'o he i last Spoken, had assumed : .1. .Asti the subject of the distress which "pre ill it the hoe war was ti cause of those distresses; XI tinotighont the Country, he knew well that a but, to make hig argument e hod, he ought to have. '-,:e. lied, in his eye, would tarn round, and gay, 1 iii. we do for them, we do as a favour: we can- shewn that it had been possible to avoid that war.— their distress; but we will extend to them * But had, during the last ten years of the contest, any '. .:.•:p voice been raised, even amongst the gable Lords n p ro tection from plunder and outrage." •Protec- : in favour of peace ?_ Nay. had Rot a No. Yes-. such protection as Pizarro eitended w ' apposite, b e Lord himself, when sent over in 1807 to Paris to ' rerovians : and as for plunder, he was not feat with the Fiench*Government, ((Mild h UN:cosi; :0 s..rc that they were ' not in almost as mush ble, notwithstanding the ability with which he had , fe- in that respect 'from other 'quarters. as they ' , in the Radicals !-(hear, hearameir).-- conducted the negociation, to.conclude a peace , and,:, :c not much prospect of increasing the pro-o. 2 4 hi s returk expressed- his opinion to that effect to . . the House?—(Herr, heart)--He then contended, :hose who already complained of burdens; that the disteess only existed in ihose Manufacturing Iditional expense of ten thousand riddititnial districts which depended - on foreign Had', and pro- . i d it was pretty clear that, at,' s ea far from ie ceeded from the p upon those who had not yet e xperienced state of the United States. ; :lose who suffered most, this exp perienced the ense was ano which had reduced their demandi for goods. The l' ,manufactures which depended on domestic consutnp- :ent of distress. The Noble Lail concluded Tieing to the House for the lengt at which tion were in a flourishing condition. He.then alluded h detained them—{Hear, hear). to the measures adopted in 1793 'and 1817, to relieve Earl of WESTMOIIyLAND contended, that the distresses of the poor by an .issue of Eichequet Bilis, and *zed that nearly half a million still re ;tint Bills were only intended to put down mained unapplied, chiefly beiuse the Gentlemen in ,eetings as had been considered illegal before Scotland, not choosing -to assess themselves, could ante had taken place. The first Statute ap. not give the security necessary to justify, en advance to- such Meetings was that of the 16th on the part of his Majesty's Government. With "re- IV. which went to put doWn routous and spout to the present Bill,he approved of the principle Meetings, and enjoined the Magistrates, un- of permanence, but did not complain of its limitation ere•peualties, to attest the leaders. The Sta - to five years, as it might be wise to-give an tipporta m - . Edward. VI. made it felony to retrain at a nity for reconsidering the measine after its merits had ig.an hour after a Proclamation had been rata been tried . He maintained that the Bill w ould pro is humane law, .ibe - necessity of dispers . I 1 gil .mote instead of prevent discussion and petitions, Ags by force had been almost wholly avoi ded gild drat those petitions which at various times had astute of- Edward-was renewed in the reign e gn had most influence with Parliament , were not those ; litery,?and again' in chit of Elizabeth. t was that had been adopted at Meetings held in the open air. I . 'Feted to expire; and the law with respect to Meetings rested, from that time, on the 16th The Marquis of LANSDOWN was glad to andl irylV. up to the reign if George I. when the ; that there had been a material change for the better in the Bills since they were originally introduCed, Lct Was passed. Coining: then to the present I he contended that _they differed much from and he hoped that still further improvements would * hat had preceded them , . 'Hitherto it had been be made. He condemned, in strong terms, the cha e.si that stela riotwould take place at Public racter and conduct of those who had promoted the , , of an ilitOriaperAharaeter. Till now, it late agitating Meetings, and be 4cktlowledged the cgs in beep common for-pekoes, under pretence of necessity of putting them down by law, but he could sing *the' sacred right of petitioning, to call not approve of a departure from ancient princ:ples; necat-he rdi , „ , ,ht Amok -dal stymies to inflame and of making Magistrates the inquisitors of opinion, " sedition. It was ii4rarkt, and 'spread abroad instead of the preservers of the peace. - The -most • ' I.e. such Meetings should not be protected learned Judges, on long consideration, were found to Tay, aiotinetice from riot ; and the object of - differ "-la what - 4 rtflilile -,w as , ' ° r:.vt'aA not, calcu lated to stir up Als ; oleo*: to rebellious :but the Ma resent measnro was to disperse them by the law ehanby the sword. • The Noble Earl had sug% without was to decide oaLti ao".a..lith Meeting, and :l tee remedies. First, an inquiry' into the state without a . .moment's consideration. He considered re Country ; secondly, an alteration in th e frame it not ' the least fitredidlitaiy : eh - if :Ireland should be die Government; -and thirdly, a reduetion of the . included in 'dß& Bill. - Wissitithe'llill was intended ty. tie (he Hall of- Wesunrwebind) Was pe r . as a permanent Billolitielansi•waeaor to be included id, that these remealeo.wiauleVisof 'iltall.„' • . ti e -in its orovisionotisist when it ways prole a temporary eked, that there wad- but . too. much ' alistrese m .• Measure, qien Ireland was included. The reasonings ;mum ; but Where-where astretifivat felt,'it was - ;os t o both . countries were inconsistent — it was said to ("bend t h at most disaffection peevailed: . *Bat their .Englatid.• we utast deprive you of this right, because is said that the distresi Wei prodUced 'by - the pr you 'have abdsed ire and it was said tolreland, we of Ministers;.and diet 'eincitequentle i'ehatage eh - wi ll deprive you of it, because y ou have not exerted frame of our - Goietiiinefit s s as netisiary."' .• .- . tit 1 Ireland was peaceable and tranquil—there was :Lail GROSVENOR - denied having i l id i a c hip „mai complaint, no charger butnanq of seditionto include her inst her-- in he frame of our ( ?hvernment was nicessary.• then, was it just or the Earl of WESTMORELAND resumed. life, the provisions of sb severe an Aft? The Neble Lord red that the present thstiess resulted- from -Misrule {Liverpool) had said, that Irelan'd was plaeed in the misgov t ernitient: ''The present system had•• lifted same situation as the peaceable parts of England ; country, tiAvariff the close of the last century, to' but would the Noble Lord; 'did the Noble Lord, ate of unexampled prosperity, uhichovas at once ' when Ireland was disturbed; ilid when measures of envy and the admiration of all surrounding na- severity were passed against her, did he say to the s, and this recollection alone Should make them ' People of England, the County of Down or of Gal :.ate 'to alter the frame of our present Goveri- way is disturbed, therefore I will include all England it. He contended that the conduct of the Magis- . in the provisions of a severe law, which is necessary e aManchester, on the 16th of August, had not ! because of those distutbances? No mature how Ire any 'respect violated the MU of Rights ; but he ; land conducted herself, still she was the Object of in. ted that the present measnre would prevent the i fiction, and of suspicion. The policy now pursued' city of dispersing future Meetings in that way. towards her reminded him of the lines of Widen: , -:.,ry into that transaction, on the part of Parlia. " Your plac i d loo k s deceive Ulf net , g° 4 4 R ON -• . . -., was unnecessary, as if those who called for ie. " I know you mean what counteracts acts fee eao !" ... now had desired it before, long ere this an in- The Noble Marquis concluded by Saying, that the .ry would have'taken place in the ordinary Courts great cause of the distress was to be found . in an ex-, :V . .% ,To institute an inquiry under existing cir- cessive debt, and an overpowering taxation operatic* .• , ..s.ices, ' would, he thought, be most unparlia- on the diminished means of the Country. t•• , be, st. a --v ; tit • nd cruel, as tending to prejudice The Earl of BLESSINOTON expressed his inter: 05: .! . .;, which were let to come before Juries. don of moving in the Committee , thkt Irela n d bb e 1:. el.n-I of LAUDERDALE did not believb in . left out of the Bill. -'Ai•terice of arty extended conspiracy to overthr ow Lord HOLLAND . condemned the Bill, as uncoif ...icversiment. lie believed the evil arose from the' stitutional, cruel, foolish, -and mischievoui : uncoil ,•• ‘'si . now prevalent ; and he accused the Noble stitutional, because it frittered away the right of Pr ': 1 ;-< , pposite with being the cause of the distress, tition—cruel, because it made it felony for one mail iri his. 11r.c••• Jura cheat it was the natural consequence of. , to listen to an-thet — foolish, becauie it on l y tende d ..eic. 4 ..iiiieh t h e y had pursued. In all coup- to 'aggravate the eviland niisChievoui; because, it' :=• ::;,.. fipenditure and revenue (left to the natural would trite the People from Public Meetings to Pri- ' i taese. et thingS) would be equal to each other; but vote conspiracies , and , instea d of clamour, it would ~.., . .t.k.:e, Vi• ( ' Losl•),000,000 had been contracted in this Noble Lord said, he would not divide the Rouse; i. In this course, taking every £lOO stock but would, in the Committee, deliver his opinion :0 the debt at CIS sterling, k would be seen more at large. oollwa e had been an of L:670,006,00 0 The House then divided on the motion of the Earl .. A "" the teal capital lithe cowry, and this had,, of Caneuevos, " That au insttnetion In &Went° the Committee to limit the duration the Ist of July, 1822:" Contents Proxies Not Contents - - - - - Proxies - Majority - -•- - Adjourned at Two o'cloc k this moi HOUSE 'OF C0M314 Sir IL PARNELL gave notice that move for leave to bring in a 13111 to taking the Poll in Ireland. Mr. IL WARD postponed the Ordnance Monday. Dr. P HILL! Minix gave notice that 1, 'move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend Mr. N. CA LVER'r moved for an Ar Hops for 1819, specifying the different and New Duty.—Agreed to. Lord A. HAMILTON presented a for certain modifications of the 59th of loopests in that quarter, which was laid dered to be printed. !u; t. Alderman WOOD gave notice, recess, move fur a Committee to inquire of allotting the Lands of.Dartmoor, &c. the Poor. Sir C. BURRELL, on moving the taking into their consideration the Report bery 13111, stated, that in consequence of i with other Gentlemen, and with reference proceediugs on the leading question tone kind, that growing out of the Grampound duced to make the present motion with - Seeing what course the discussions had it might be satisfactory to•melition to t position with regard to •Penryn was to that Falmouth, with a population of about Penzance, with a population to nearly the a be let into the elective right. This would to the process recognised as expedient • pound, the only difference "being, that is tension was proposed to be made at a distant in the adjacent county. He concluded 11 . - the motion till the 21st of Febrnitry. Mr. W. WYNN remarked on the right to a Boroteli vote into a vote for *impart of ear Representative system 'it was thai of the County Representation. these Findi were adopted, merelyontgenersl have the effect of putting Househnlde with Freeholdeis ' and introducing a confusion into the County franchise. ter into the subject at prevent, but he the course most -fit sObe adopted, that, pound, and Barnstaple to come under tars, who had not forfeited their rights -have the - election of two Members for jokled; still left with them, while the I, of as the Legislature might think proper. thus uniting Boroughs was not at object Wales, and he never heard of any dist& Sir C. NIONCK agreed with the lit that Borough voters should not be introduced County-Electors. In his opinion the , follow the precedent of former Jadeite's , 'still he was aware that striking imperfect method of throwing the elective tights Hsitireds, and these be 'Wald be gird.' As an example of these-imperfections, Is iotigh of.Wnoten-Bitetet, which war pees thrown open when the franchise From its situatiOn the borders of that a forty shilling freehold in Wootonza. ling In a house there, obtained thus a right e biembeest cif the bane, be' Cricklade, and for the Members of the of Wooton-Basset, therefore, with a f votes for lig .Members, sod for dm f privilege. This might, perhaps,-as future arrangements, especially as , vit. presented themselves on tbe - subfeet of Cornwall. Mr. DAVIES GIUSEEt 'Pilleitly sanctioned would ea:tab* se.- VOlMititution of that House i Ova whether .ter~ "Muth doubted. His apinidn, other competent persons, with at v teal rePiesentadon of the country, sulkiest and•goOd far all. practical , not . * mere.delegatfon of the pearl, and chnilbliStuctution. • Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW-oetiOrk Donputable Member for Northumberl • and protested .against - deprivilif merely.speAulative;grounds. After which the question was now also iboyed hp. Sir C. Bustoettoritd• eltould not issue his Writ for the the et st February,. Os k ar incision of arr. Wpm, the Committee en the Irish 10ection 1311 -was tone into, end the. Report recall hii.W, W rya t' to, the Bill was teed r Wie l d Orlie: .'" I NSOL VENT , DIETS) lAad ALTHORP - brought in the Datim.motion for ifs being read' CALCRAFT itsie t not to principles of *hick .he agreed,, bat whom he bad ktown Fos many late Court, bad fek - .l4Mealtallust foll•freen the Noble Lord on, obtoiPluil Bill; and he was anxious, as'he siai no intention to throw. a stigme.upcm ' misapprehension Mould be done es ,Lord ALTHOUP *tap/need - ha odd should have feeling wounded the feeling Ho did tot mean so impute .any 441 13 1 ' th l n 4441140 d on ihO' costik 411 that be bad said .was, astureloi dl the-Matta of that Conn, to them, but because ::z. i ts ' mind which must haws The Bill wal reads fret ascend time on the 16th of ; Rehtiarts Nawarriolitt-: Lord CASTLEREAGH; a considerable time, witliout moved the Order of the Da , deration of the Report on OA the *nutlet' that this "Mr.,rOHN . SMYTH begged Of dilEculty" was intOlvetfin th communicated with individuals deeply concerned in it, and complication, and so absolute narrowly into it, that: he pressed on without more believed that the effects it I contemplated nor wished fie stated that that. respect, _Booksellers (not merely respectable count, but for their value to suffered,. much distress and able clearly to see their way through the multitude of ways in , which it w he' was sure he had laid a sail guesting a shirt delay. Lord CASTLEREAG.— passing the Bill with as miscb its own account, i nod also desirable, and'many Members it that weight. His LOrdslY ciple of the Bill wes.weil had been altered in it but convenient to discuss the for debate on londay. • Mr. BERNAL suggested, , L at chit ... rg e up() «That a As ote. srell l4l :int's re , Wis.! tt.ey 1.7 i oas • I#, bre ex. or -:To even stri 4 1 btui ire the . .41.1 .:o;totxt • prey c!11 .I At ink -.. con ;hr. toot - . 11... y. , 1 • • ill f A tin( I.or . 1% ,t.t. tr. ti r.ruttrc Ye reitit . .:o • 2 er is f-or i . . a d : , t!": :;• xt r. • zite h :3 de The E, e , rese h Me awy SZat flicable Her.. y 1 rr,tcas I der seve, este of -1 Meeting ly this Xeetittg tte &a t:is ben Nai 711711ie if Help tiot•Ac rte, Li re tkisete't kaA nut eitr,Fhi tatirls: 14e list 6:Le t. mete.. tie pre lather gested of the uf die Army h. mailer 1 rcrivar the Cc sot fo it was 0 the fr flu r ' it the Th. h- dctie rad r ' a scat tre titsns, besiti re Lunt t:2:r .t. ;13 hi • ;ps th 3 • • - , . # f:;s: 1 . 1 0 e 7 ,7 .J 1 f ff.); 11 1. 'P o .4 *4. tr.9l ke: r- • ! 7 . . . j ; • • . . . iof the merasuiti to na me d , . . .. as M on d ay was already appropr i ated tOir the ~ . Libel Bill. . - - - go A short conversation ensued on this point. in which . . . - - - l B-38 lB-38 - - - 57 Lord- CA•STI,ZRFAcp, Mr. TIEItREt, and Mr. J. T: -- - 78-135 GRANT. Psirticipifilf: =-- . ..-- .. -* • ' - - - - —97 The SPEAKER explained, that the delivery of norning, till Monday. l' the•amended Bills, •ishich some of the Honourable ~ . . MONS. _ • Members had allu ded to, bad been amply. provided • L. be would, on Monday, for.. But many. Him. Genleinen has ing taken copies ' • a regulate the manner of in the Vote Office last night, it might be that there , ,4 - V were not a sufficient ntimqr for the general delivery . Drdnance Estimates till . . to Members this mo o rninc.- There were, -however; H • • it he vrould on'iVdnesday the usual number primed, and he had' given orders • - end the Marriage Act. for their being sent as earl ylas, possible. , • . • Account of the Duty on t Districts, and the Old Mr. BROUGHAM 'and Mr, ABERC nbsttle ' ipoke at , to the delivery to many Members being so late as to .. , • a Petition from Lanark preclude them from the polsibility bf making then- , of the King, relating to t • ' ' . . selves acquainted with the S7objecr.:' ' . laid on the table, and or- - • Mr. ASERCROMBIE•sai i. he considered this to •••• , lb* be should, after the be infinitely the most impOrtant.of all the peav;rve, .. • .r ' • juire into the expediency introduced by . Ministers, and one which IN ' -.I .: • 1 ,1 1 c,... ... C . • Lc. for the employment of utmost deliberation. He founded his opinion ne t ' . e Order of the Day for so much upon the Bill itself, as upon the ptincip'ci• port on the Penryn Bri- laid down for future legislation. He therefore begeect - . of some communication to know from the Noble. Lord. if it really feMiired ence to the Parliamentary touching subjects of this so much expedition,ahar a mcmeinary pause.for cog- I ound Election, he was in- sidetation could not be allowed*? . • . th a view to postponement. Lord CASTLEREAGH agreed with the Honour- . e di t? H e n ouje i n these di matte e p:o s . , able Gentleman that this was the most Important or s • o e x tend die franchise, so the measures propos.ed by Government. It was most about 5000 persons, and important to still the agitation .wbicl existed)e the the same amount, would r ul ea d w u ith simi re l gird ate a co he country, and he fairly confessed to the House if . ~ the evil was not put a stop toby their interposition,' . t i n t h e one caso t h e ex - they would have a.not very pleasant prospect before distant place; in the other, them. He repeated his opinion, as to the expediency, td by moving to postpone of dis Cussing the-principle now, and' the details in .t . he anomaly of- altering a . -* • • . future stage. • i • sr a•Cdtmty. If there was • Mr. BROUGHAM observed, that the principle ni• -1 I ' nu'r* awed than ane.thers the Bill divided itself into two parts-the security tot ttian. Yet if alterations of be given, and the Starry- Duties to he paid . The fo:'e i general principles , it would • i was the most important, but till • he had cOmzer. en in the same colsditlon . different class-and much nicated with the booksellers this afternoon, he had It was unnecessary to en- not been aware of the momentous consequences cone e would rather suggest, as netted with the latter. From what he had le it r.t, he • t, supposing Penryn, Cram- er a new system , the Eke = was Cbnviiiced, that,.viithout entering into the d e t a ils, ts by any corruption, should it was utterly impossible tb discuss the principle with" n• the three Boroughs con- which they were inseparably interwoven. • . i he other four wtm disposed : - oper. The incoveuiente of • Lord CASTLEREAGH was very uneeillitig-rib . J abjection, as it was done in press any question on the House for svhichi-from any isadvantage attending It. circumstance; if could be said to be unprefini'ech He A Honourable Gentleman{ . was therefore ready to a cceiriniedate the'lloneutrable • 1 • introduced into the class of Gentlemen opposite to the utmost of his power ; ieltll.. he case of P ought to . nets of the same kind. Bat out retarding measures which he believed Were Crafted I erfectioxs accrued from the for by the circumstances of the country: •Iflf welt rights wen to the adjoining understood' thilt.the'Bill should really•mate peeigfir' , Aid. is see iiianfed splint. he would mention the Bo _ cre Monday, 'he wo uld' have nu objection *;to - aisles.- r. Is, i embraced within the cote- ratigernent e mbra c in g that principle; so that-the-dl teof Cricklade wasoaceated. dttsstons "might 'Be ' got through next Week. atOn the' • at WAshite. It so happene d understanding; therefore, that the principle should be • . c' tw " asiet s the owner duve t- discussedonMonday, he weirld - postpone his- Motion: t a right to vote not only for A et b et for do Morobert of ' Mr. BROUGH M -said; he 'would•even -go fare , 'tie County. A. householder tiler than the polite icqtrieseenceof the Noble Lord. a forty shilling freehold, bad If the bill should be So altered by Monday as tore- • r some tenure he'hitt seeable move the princi p al Oblectionii which had been alluded' * • - is well be avoided in their , ' -•,' ." • t `unlatch limited. ' ' 1 1 -1 1 various other considerations too the di 9 ett . ion titiel . „. et of making arrangements in - 'The quettiens Was thee put,. and, on the motion 11 e • d, that the =enures now ap- Lord CAsiviiihaoti '• the re - committal - for lilonciay s • • • •, ' 1 4 , mike ac dwatk,„ h e- the on the alstree,end.B.l 4 eistanding, agreed to*. •1 , . whether an improvement, he • . - -.8 .SSIZVRIL /IiLL.. . • • ' in, and the opinion of niast A Metsagelrmt the Lords out their Lord- i . t what they wanted was a vita Ship s ' 'assent to - tile - Aria Seizure Bill, with' s the, i . I i r, (such as they nowitenjoyed, Amendment if ihe.:CommOns. ' ' ' ' • - t • purposes . of legislationh and 1, subject to externatlmpulse . . : . miltY• xaTISIATP.S. • -, , , ~.. 9 1 _ ! L. • • ' s . The House having reso l ve d itself into a e t tiouleife. eertnalie. observations 9f the o f c • i ' , überland (Sir Charles M onet), t ee °UP' y. • • . • at ta n or hsc. l ac ers . on • , Lord PALMERSTON' rase . to pro - powitirotita•? s•• • . 1 .........• . . , Army Estimates on Account., He, said thut at tiny- . (ll ° 4 W PO alufalereid to.' It iris early period of the Session; itwsu'rtot posiiblercrnraire - 41d140 " 4 46 ' th ‘ a * t the P P eak ` r out the Estitnates in detail. . b.a this . aciotint, a-d e Borough till the mu wonslate. • • also for the convenience of.the Heusi ,. he wished to. . the Or . der of *SI4 bay for the, propose a vote on Account; forahetestimates ;If ult..-...h. Bill was route the:OSoitnittee. only an abgrAtt had been e - t esen v it.-. The sum he '.t tceived shar p few.woOs frfrom o the Arneadmeau being agieed liishid • .t.? propose to -- Vole would amount to:nearly • i • .Qne Minion arid a Holf;Whichivbidd indria-le the ex- ; irons' as. . ~,,, . - te r or calling out the - Pensioners ; --He should,. - 1 the Insolvent Etebton' . Bili. id a (list tide, refore, desire to reseifieNlelise - hiSion till the nice e ... • • to oppose the oiessure — , .I:riek- ' l oot. ', ti t : t ailed Estimates were laid before the House after bin to observt , that ti . peraon - recess,‘ end ••the . final rote- ,Rroposed., lie con- •. i. • 1 r yearsoha erClerlL -irt• the' ••• - • , chess _ eluded by moving a vate.raff.:9ao,ooo, on account cf t - rtlay'oectidb.aarsodons which the Laid Service, with ihi s exc . tiee4.l.reland, and 1 t Istaiphig leave to *trod . eve this the Troops in the, setvice of the -roctik4o,r4arry. Le w * ". l ,,„ t aryt h ,t, i i ~,..,N " l en . , 14 °Ta.,;_,.,.' b i d Mr. CALCR An' said ,' lie shot nit pre t salle die- ~ upon --."----1•'"t Wil.•. cossion o f the subject against the y.„4lf ql - the.tib use , away.l' 77sil regret that iipyithui t iikiiia /out it did appea\' strange, .that when te h orlielve reelings . of the person44llu4ed Mt.,-thousand men were' added .to a - Standing. arrni in r thing to his disadvantage . , nor • time of . , peace, and that standing army too thelitcgest f A ti Cormniftre. to warring slob a • rat, alma le was glad of tie ra. that ever was known in the country at any Sit:fair Court, not from imputing blame time, that the Noble Lord shOuld pint it :beef it an . . , a in'inakeitioe .en the rablie :ordinary matter of businets which calied4Orho ex. 411*r:exertions nogatoty, planation. Though -he was not prepared, :mulct all ' ll, " 4 " 4 ' l * " be read a the c i rcumstances of the co u ntr yl to say,tharbe I iniarjrinirte:at prluted. •. lta:NV. slid.. should peremptorily oppose .the.calling mit of the A' 1 . i Pensioners, yet he thought it the du ty of th.Metnbers . Rifle House having waited of' the House to awaken the•lealdtisy of die etSteitiry- thout doing any business, to . we. -proceedings . He hardly teesty howtireriolsove . • .' Day for the -further consi. the News Stain s tamp- Bin. to begat a itisceesion onr which he.should he ready:to I BiH be now re-cot:on** Were:. gs. the 1%.14411.e Lord : had ,given .D 49 rMINPOI. OK ... 4 • vote. He.saw, too, among she vacs, a Sinn* lor . y egged to remark, that entic4 Military C . ellege,, He, for One, ' illinitcro - lifect - to ' .I,in the measure. lie had riduals whose interests were that vote at that Moment, as the utilitref thar.apPle.. = cadets-of money was at tide time- very qu.estioeablet and he perceived so snitch I L . i . olute a,necessity forlooking is trusted it would not be Hi had rather that . the. Noble Lord should .taiter,al sum 9a accoeot genefally, , without specifying peep. e time for deliberation. He quier h eads, . a s Parliament wOul d . then he pledged ta e t • : would produce were neither no principle, except, perhaps, that t of the increase Gt , hy tjovernment ; and, when the Army by Calling out the Pensioners. • )ectable body of men, the Lord PALMEH.STON in reply, - sa id , -the Home ' had, at . she • beginniag of the Session been mettle respectable en their oven ae- i • acquainted. with the increase of the Army . by the. . t. to the community ar - large), and anxiety, witheut being Prince Regent's speech.. He had proposed a .yote . . •- way through Ibis Dill, and generally for the service of one quarter ; • and he . I. . which it wou)d a eft them, -.should have no 'objection to propose a vote for the , I l id a sulicient ground for re- .whole on account, without specifying particolar.see.. ...,gj 4,41 ~ . Vices; witti-the exception of that for the Military Ca,: • i. . i • DH irked thirseesese • e , o i. Jege apd Asylum, which did not pass through ths. •i t y,, a4 l"liands.of t h e P ay master Peletal. and which it was , . put an end to -die 'Or that reason, necessary te have under a seperate much celerity al io as a full .atteodfn,ti as • . - o r Orea military d i bui co it e lnz one ou wle riai d to mai lily be prepagedi tubers stayed. in Upon to g rdship thought, its th e pfin• -,--- , . . , , eieltifthour:mdeadth"d• -61 " , ill'adilea"t' ma : 4l°Fid.th: F illatiir.at .I:l4l9le:Wilsale vii%iittitilleiSitEst4);:thit;i.l;ne:Ksh.l74l l bli t ileat6 u l": / eb d l . '11 1: 1 :E sal : bit aratitl*eatimiis.:::: t d oCi dtbailtv ; ;Cli tita :649lii i 1 • - wo , • desirable, , sted, that Teelida) y shiculd be ;rill in progress' • , . . i . . . • . 1 . . . - - . . . . • . . • • . : • ; ....• ". .. 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