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IP ST.eITE PAPERS. APPENDIX, (Being Official Papers at:ached to the Minister's Report.] No. I. _ _ Letterfrom Count de Cii•isPAONT to Count Vow MITTIRNICIII. M Darner, 16th July, 1808. • a' Monsieur l'Aphassadeurs—A Polish Officer, Mr. Young, Lieutenant of the 2d Regiment of Polish Infantry, proceeding to Gallicia on his private business,mas detained, although furnished with a regular and complete passport. Marshal Davoust three times demanded him of Colonel Count Von Neipperg, Comman dadt of •the - Austrian frontiers4;remarking, that the passport with which Mr. Young was supplied was such a one as Colonel de Neipperg had prescribed for military persons going into Gallicia, and that it was hoped that those who complied with what was so prescribed woulsi be protected against all ill treatment. These demands hive been Made in vain ; and Mr. Young, whose papers lave been seised, •is mill in a state of confinement. lam sorry • that 11 have to demand his liberation. ."It is difficult to make this demand without complaining a Nttle, or, at least, of dropping a few words of displeasure at the conduct of those who are placed in the Administragion in Gallicia, towards the Duchy of Warsaw. Intercourse becomes still more difficult. Already, it is not witbout'great difficulty that the sup plies which are sent into the Grand Duchy are allowed to pais through. The Frenchmen who ate in the country are treated with extreme severity, which is pet 'practised towards stringers of an/ Other country; and, nevertheless, on the part of France, every measure is taken fur the external, and even internal, repose of the Austrian provinces. a Must we not be surprised at this new app earance of thin g s, as wit as at the having admitted into the harbour of Trieste thre • A merican ships, the cargoes of which so obviously come from Malta and England, that no• man in the town doubts of it ? *a What are we to think of that warlike cry, which, issuing from Vienna, has been echoed •through all Germany; of the preparation's of which the newspapers are full; of the move meats of troops in Galliria, which hive united together like di vis.ons of an army, or of the movements which it is said have taken place In Bohemia ; and, finally, of . the calling out of a na tion .1 guard, after which the military force of the country is pit into a State - of...preparation for service, as if the Austrian (lbiernment wished to call forth all its resources in order to atri to a great blow or provide against a great danger ? And yet yati,Sir, know,' and your measures proclaim It to every one, that Austria is in a state of deep repose and perfect harmony with its neighbours; that France especially demands nothing, and desires ;Inching which belongs to her ; that there is no prospect remote or proximate which can occasion the least disquietude Our astonishment has been such that it was impossible for me not to mention it, although that was by no means the pur pose of this note, which treats merely of a special case. May this nor arise (we hope it does not)..from a general spirit of ? But it is difficult to lay aside the thought that this spirit does not animate some persons attached to your Government, who believe they serve or give pleasure to it, by estranging it from principles by which we have a pleasure in supposing it is guided. " I embrace with eagerness every occasion to give your Excel lency all possible assurances, &c.' No, 11. Private Letter from the same to the same, same date. " Monsieur le Compte--1 have great pleasure also in confer. ring with you confidentially, as I find myself flattered by over tures of the kind which your Excellency has made me. The ac companying note, which refers to a particular affair of which I bad to give you information, has furnished me with occasion to *Oak of the preparations for war in the Austrian Monarchy, which have not oily been noticed in all public papers, but also I in the correspondence of all the Courts of Germany. It must be Confessed several of these measures have been acknowledged by your Government. It must be confessed that they are at great variance w i t h a state of perf e ct peace and union of all the Powers of the Continent. It is necessary I should mention this without making it the business of a particular note. What can be theob- Jett of thus throwing a great part of Germany into disorder ? If it be intended to preserve peace, and we will suffer no doilbt to be formed on this head, to what purpose Is this chew of hr-Aility ? One of the blessings of peace is repose, which it allows to be en jpyed. And many fatal wars have had no other origin than in preparations, which were often made without any thought of be ginning war, the influence of nu alone. I addscss them! remarks, Sir, to your sound understanding, to the integrity of your s;:nti meats, and to the strong desire which animates us, that the good understanding between our Governments may not be destroyed. A 'sappy issue, the result of our joint Labours, is what would be most acceptable to me. " May your Excellency accept the assurances, &c." No. Ill.—(From the same to the same.) " Tbulouse, 27th July, 1808. " MONSIEUR L'Arasassapeue—A private affair occasioned me to notice slightly the warlike preparatiot a of your government. But since every day adds to the importance and moment of this matter, it is become my duty, in a more explicit, but still confi dential style to speak to you concerning it ; for the time is nearly arrived when the Emperor might order me to make an official communication on this subject. What does your Government desire? Why does it disturb the peace of the Continent ? It not only arms itself, but it adopts extraordinary measures, which an extraordinary clangor alone can justify. Your Princes run through the Provinces and souse the people to the defence of their coun try. '1 he whole population from 1 R to 45 years of age, are brought / under arms ; a part of the militia (landweer) are taken to strengthen the regular army. Every thing is in motion throughout the whole Austrian monarchy. Your people to whom you an nounce the war are filled with terror ; your neighbours are dis quieted by the preparations. Every where, it is said, What does Austria mean ? By what enemies is she menaced ? What danger has she remarked? Wherefore does she act as if she were on the brink of the precipice ? Why does she prepare to combat as if her existence were at stake ? And you know that we, far combo, me nacing Austria, ask nothing but to live in peace with her, to unite with us against the common enemy ;that we lay claim to nothing die possesses; that we are anxious to live in perfect harmony with her. But you perceive as well as myself that these prepa rations on the part of Austria, which all Europe has observed, must lead to important consequences. To the present moment the Emperor may affect not to have observed it, but foresight ne vertheless prescribes him to adopt certain measures of defence. " Being especially calhal upon to watch over the security of the Confederatiesi of the Rhine, he must warn them to be upon their guard, he must demand contingents, be must himself send troops from the interior of the empire to the btirders of the Rhine. On all sides mess shall be placed under arms. In such a state of things a spark is sufficient to kindle the conflagration. Does Austria really desire war ? What advantage does she expect to herself from it ? We are certain that she has no assistance whatever from Russia. England can be of only small service to her. If she does nor desire war, why so lavish of gold, which drains the trea sury, depresses the course of exchange, and annihilates paper credit ? Why contemn the progress of domestic prosperity, which only beear. to revive ? Why oppress all Europe with the fear of ageing th. war renewed ? And why should Austria estrange from lease the Emperor, who will be less disposed to call for her co operation in the affairs of Eu:ope t Assuredly he will not make amicable ar.proaches towards a power Which assumes a hostile or threatening position. Such is the line which Austria has m ark ed oat for hermit towards France, at a moment when Franceevinced an earnest desire to live itigoodunderstanding with her. You can appr date, sir, the importance of maintaining our friendly rela tens , and you know that this is not less the object of my desire.— our common wishes be fulfilled. instruct your Government I mincer:sing our dispositions towards it,which it assuredly bas no I cause to fear, and concerning the consequences of the measures it has been counselled to pursue. They who have given you this counsel are not your friends. Enemies of the peace of Europe— they may plunge their country into an ocean of troubles. I hope that you will be able to protect it from such calamity. I should deem myself most happy, in case this letter, which I write with feelings rendered more acute through my personal relations to- w ards yourself, should have the happy effect of preserving that goo d understanding between two Governments whose common i interest demands nothing less than the welfare of Europe and of kumanity. [lien there is a Chasm in the document,. Tkere appears to have been a postscril t to the last letter, and the two following aumbers have not yet reached us.] No. VI. Letter from the Count DL Cu.% eIPAGNI, to the Count VON Mc rrtamicti. " So, •• Bourdeaux, July no, Hos. •• 1 Ave to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 22d of Jay ; Old, ti.s, igh it was only confidential, I conceived that I iiiy respt:ct (Csappoint your intentions, by shewing should not J.' it to bi s Majesty the Empet or. His Majesty appeatA t o b e So far 11 'aided with it, as to lead ma to think, that be ma., lave maw. manded certain defensive measures for which he hadl &keep mkt', and also the placing the fortressesof Silesia in a state of defence.. : But I must plainly tell you, that at the very time wheat your letter produced this good effect, a totally different impression resulted from the letters received, at the same instant, from Munich, and more especially from Dresden. The reports, howissAr, of your armaments were much less offensive than the accounts contained is those letters of the direction given to the public mind lo the Austrian States. At the Baths ofToeplitz, Qarlsbad , Wtd Egra, they breathe nothing but war. This is represented as the moment when Austria can begin it with advanta b e. They report that the Spanish peasants, incited by the fanatical spirit of their priests, have totally annihilated the French army in Spain ; that the army in Germany scarcely consists of 100,000 men ; and that the army of Italy is inadequate to the suppression of a new insurrection, which is said to have broken out in Calabria, and to appease the disturbances that have taken place in Dalmatia and the lonian isles. " It is by such representations that Prussia, last year, came to a conclusion so unfortunate for herself. The agents of England, who plunged her into total destruction, are now at work in Austria.— They engage her in measures, the issue of which cannot be fore seen, cause her to make expensive preparations, the burden of which she cannot support, and which, by the want of confidence they give rise to externally, and the spirit they excite internally, must necessarily involve her in war. The people are told of their dangers ; they are called to the defeece of their country ; they are put in motion, and in a short time those who have communicated . the impulse, are themselves hurried along with it. The most intelligent persons of the Monarchy will not be able to stern the torrent. The cry of war, so improvidently raised, will not, with- , . . out effect, be re-echoed at home and abroad. " Do . you ask for a proof of this effect? See what bats happened at Trieste ; see the new fencibles of that City scouring the streets, _ . and insulting the French and Italian travellers in their very lodg ings; see them collecting to the number of 1500 round the house . . of tl;e French Consul, provoking him with insulting expressions, and renewing the scene with General Bernadotte at Vienna; see, at the same time, the Police of the City, whom I think ,rather feeble than ill-disposed, remaining completely inactive, and more inclinedto conceal than to punish outrages which they were unable to prevent._ See, in this instance, how men unintentionally find themselves in the high road to hostilities. " Do you wish for another proof ? Two French couriers carry ing letters for Dalmatia, have been stopped, and their letters taken from them. The Emperor imputes this act of violence to nothing else than the popular ferment excited by your recent proceedings. " Undoubtedly, Sir, Austria had a right to make what changes she might think fit in her military Constitution ; but have weever seen such changes precipitately made in a time of peace? In April, to give orders that all should be in readiness by the Ist of July, as if war must, by that time, certainly take place--sudderly _ . • and at the same instant, to call out a force of 4tth,ooo men, and that too, exclusive of the addition made to the standing army—to represent the danger as pressing, and, of course, war as inevitable —can we see all these things, and suppose that Austria has no de sign whatever in them ? It is certain, Sir, that after such a state of things has produced its influence upon the public opinion, and excited that turbulence which naturally results from it, war is inevitable ; it will take place, even contrary to the wishes of the two Emperors, and those of their Ministers, and the most en- . lightenened individuals in both countries. " You tell me, Sir, of the apprehensions excited by the encamp ments in the countries occupied by :he French. But it is not gene rally known that this is the ordinary custom of the French armies beyond the frontiers? that in some districts of Italy they are en camped the whole of the year ? Most assuredly the Emperor would have broken up those encampments, could he have supposed that they would have excited any uneasiness. But consider what has been the conduct of the Emperor. Has he not dismantled the fortresses of Silesia? lias he not stripped them of every thing, leav ing not a single gun, nor as much as a grain of corn in them ? Fas he not restored Brannau? Not one of these steps would hr have taken, had he entertained hostile designs upon Austria. You allude to the common conversation of our soldiers, and what does that i prove ? Is it not what the conversation of the soldiery in all coun tries has always been ? They do not think that it is an honour to them to invoke the approach of war, and to appear to hope for it because they wish it. " If you entertained any apprehension, why did you not make it known ? You have never made the least communication to me , on this subject : and General Andreossi has been informed of no ' thing of the kind at Vienna. " Do you wish to be at rest with regard to the dispositions of France? All the assurances you can desire will be given you.— Do you wish the encampments in Silesia to be broken up ? They shall be broken up. Ari you desirous that the directions given for arming the fortresses in that province should be countermanded? —That shall be done. Do you wish that the measures for form ing magazines of provisions at Palma-Nova should be discontinued? They shall be discontinued. Public declarations to that effect shall he made to you in any form you desire. They shall be couched in such terms as that the supposition of a meditated attack on the part of France shall manifestly appear to be absurd; but do you, on your side, recall and discontinue those manifestly hostile and threatening measures that are inconsistent with the present situa tion of Europe, and with the repose of which It so much stands in need—that remove to a distance all hope of a general peace, and, above all, that ate incompatible with the native disposition and principles of the Emperor. " You see, Sir, that we are not among those , who suffer them selves to be misled by false measures. If you entertain a cor-. respondent disposition, the plots of the incendiaries of Europe will be speedily frustrated, and the Continent will remain tran quil. Either Austria wishes for war, in which case her arma ments are capable of explanation, and we ss iii eo to war with her; or, she is exasperated by the weasels of the enemies of the Continent ; but In this case, the propositiobs which- I make to you must open her eyes, so as net to leave the sliadow of a pre.; text for her formidable preparations. • " I request, Sir, a speedy answer to this letter, and the rea son is this :—The Emperor had no intention of levying a Con scription among his subjects this year; but he has thought of doing so since the whole of Austria has been up in arms ; and he will not suffer the month of August to pass by without submit ting a proposition to that effect to the Senate. He must enjoy a state of repose. " For a long period he has laid it down as a principle, not to reject what seems improbable. He is aware of the strong ten dency the passions have to blind mankind, and how easily they are brought into play by persons who have been accustomed by their artifices to throw the Continent into a state of disturbance. He recollects that the Government of Prussia was so far mis led, as to be induced to think that the French army, actually 300,000 strong, scarcely amounted to 100,000 men. '1 hat army too was encamped almost entirely in countries that had no depen dence upon Prussia. England continually instigates hostilities, and gives herself little concern about the event. Her end is accom pashod when the people of the Continent are engaged in the work • of mutual destruction. 4 - " I have spoken to you of the affair of Trieste. It would be • useless to demand reparation of you for it. The Emperor , Napoleon thought he might have expected that frau the ' Enlyc roe Francis, and such reparation as he himself would have ' been anxious to give, had a similar scene occurred in any place under his dominion. " In this letter you will recognise the language, at once firm, serious, and pacific, which I have constantly used to you. It is with you that I wish to bold it—with you who have re sided among us, and who know enough of us to admit that no feelings of weakness dictate the proposals made to you, for the purpose of preventing even the smallest presence of hostilities.— You know our situation, and I can tell the Count Von Metter nich what it would be nueelless to say to the Ambassador of Aus tria. Our Grand Army is stronger than ever—it, and the Army of Italy are double what they were its 1805 ; and the troops of the Confederation can be speedily assembled, and 60,000 men I are proceeding from the interior to Strasburg, Mentz, and Cas ! sel. We have, thus, every re:. , .on to expect that a war with Austria cannot but prove successful. " We are, therefore, not afraid of war; but we do not wish for it._ We du not wish for it, inasmuch as we have no cause to enter upon it, nor any object in carrying it on ; because we have no grievances to alletige against Austria, and covet nothing that she possesses ; whilst iaany political reflections come in aid of these feelings; because it is an important interest of France that Austria should retain the power which she now has ; and,finally, because the Emperor does not sport with men's lives, and does not go to war for the mere pleasure of carrying it on. " Let the impulse, therefore, Sir, which has been given to the Austrian Monarchy, and of which war must be the inevitable consequence, cease. Let it be checked by a direct contrary im pulse. The proposals which I offer you, furnish your Govern ment with every facility for that purpose. lf, notwithstanding these pacific overtures, and in defiance of all the proceedings which demonstrate Our dispositions to remain at peace with your Government, war should yet take place, and we should be com pelled to carry it on with the greater rigour, inasmuch as we • -ilsoaltl be forced into it, the calamities which may result from it cannot be imputed to us. " in concluding this leper, Sir, I have the satisfaction to ac quaint you, that his Majesty's speedy return to hisvapital, will Live me an opportunity of renewing the assurancesr &c.&c." (Te- be continued.) PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY B. counsel were again heard in the appal Arnott v. Flint, Ste. DEBTORS. ..tLord MOIRA adverted to a mis-statement which had gone a' road of what he had said on a former occasion, with respect to the Report of the Committee on the Petitions presented to that House on behalf of persons confined for Debt in several Gaols of the Kingdom. He had not said, as this mis-statement made hint say, that he intended following'up the report with a Bill ; on the contrary, he expressly stated that he should not follow it up with any further measure. The magnitude of the evil that existed was made evident to their Lordships, and it was of so crying and ur • gent a nature that he thought it incumbknt upon some of his Ma jesty's Ministers to propose some remedt•for its removal. PORTUGAL.-?IESSAGE. The Earl of LIVERPOOL brought down a Message from his Majesty respecting a loan of £600,000 to the Prince Regent of I'ortugal, to be guaranteed on the revenues of the island of Ma deira.—(For the Message, see the House of Commons.) On the motion of Lord LIVERPOOL, his Majesty's message was ordered to be taken into consideration to morrow. 'The Bills on the table were forwarded in their respective stages. SCOTS JUDICATURE BILL. On the motion that the Scotch Judicature Amendment Bill be re-committed. Lord GRENVILLE rose, and forcibly expressed his surprise at the manner in which a Bill of such importance had been sinugglert. through the House, and at the silence that seemed so studious* to be observed respecting its contents. Not a word bad been said in justification of its necessity, and it was only by' chance that a Noble and Learned Friend of his (Lord Erskine) had learnt that such a Bill was before the House, although his Majesty had beed advised to place his Noble and Learned Friend at the head of the Commission that had been appointed to carry into execution the provisions of the Bill for the better Administration of Justice in Scotland. By the provisions of that Bill it was required, that the Commissioners should report, from time to time, to the House, what progress they had made in the business, and they :were also bound to wind up the whole of their reports on or before the 12th November, 1809. Yet had they never, in compliance with these injunctions, made a single report to the House, nor was there the siightest hope that by the time prescribed in the act the business would be finally completed. On the contrary, such bills as the present might be brought in from year to year, and Scotland thus deprived of the benefits of an act from which such advantageous expectations had been raised. Indeed the manner in which the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, and in general those Noble Lords who supported his Bill, had acted on this occasion, was very far from meeting with his approbation. The LORD CHANCELLOR defended the conduct of the Commissioners, and was rather of opinion, that his Noble and Learned Friend (Lord Erskine), to whom the Noble Paron had so pointedly adverted, would not exactly acknowledge the jus tice of the attack, which the Noble Baron had made on him (the Lord Chancellor) ; for it so happened, that on the second read ing of the Bill, Lis Learned and Noble Friend was not present in the House; neither was he present at the last meeting of The Com missioners when the necessity of granting further time to prepare their final report was agitated. With whom then did the fault lie ? That he should not determine : but he must beg leave to say, that any attack made upon him on that score had no just foundation to rest upon. Lord GRENVILLE said, that thtre was nothing in the Noble and Learned Lord's explanation which called upon him to re tract any observation he had made. A warm conversation took place between the LORD CHAN CELLOR and Lord GRENVILLE, which entirely grew out of their mutual explanations, in which Lord REDESDALL interposed, and imputed to ignorance cr misrepresentation many of the obser vations of the Noble Baron (Grenville). This conversation was terminated by the interposition of Lord WiSTMOILLAND, and a mutual explanation between the Lord CHANCLLLOR and Lord Garsvii.xx, the latter cf whom moved that the Commissioner: do forthwith, or as soon as possible, make a report to the House of the progress they have made in accomplishing the o':iject of the Bill to this effect passed last session. The Motion was agreed to, after some further conversation, when it was finally agreed that the bill be recommitted on Friday next.—Ad . iourned till to-morrow. • HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. Alderman COMM'. brought in a bill to indemnify certain printers who had inadvertently omitted to insert their names and places of abode in works published by than. Read a first, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. , The Irish Commissioners' tees Bill was read a third time,suad passed. he Irish beer Improvement Bi;I went through a Committee, after a short cover action, in which Mr. Forrest, Sir 3. Naw- PORT,Mr. HUTCSINSON, and Mr. PA ILNZLL participated. 'I he Report was ordered to be received td-morrow. Mr. ENKINSON presented a copy of the Correspondence be tween the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and the Commissioners of Inland Navigation.—Ordered to be printed. A message from the Lords announced their Lordships' assent to the American Trade Bill. • On the statement of some special circumstances by Mr. Mat. Lisa ' the time for the Committee on the Gas Light Bill to pre sent their report was enlarged to to-morrow se'nnight. MESSAGE FROM Ills MAJESTY. Mr. Secretary CANNING brought down a Mes sage from his Majesty, which was read by the Speaker, and which was in substance as follows : G. R.—His Majesty thinks it right to acquaint the House of Commons that his Majesty's ally the Prince Regent of Portugal, has requested his Majesty's assent to the raising of a loan of 600,0001. in this . country, the produce of which to be applied in part to the liquidation of advances made by his Majesty to the Prince Regent, on his emigration from Portugal, and for services connected with his establishment. A convention has been entered into between his Majesty and the Prince Regent, by.which the latter secures to his Majesty the revenues of the island of Ma deira, for the payment of the interest, and for the gradual reduc tion of the principal of this loan ; a copy of which Convention his Majesty will order as soon as possible to be laid on the table of the House ; but as it may be necessary to provide !or raising this loan, in the supplies of the year, and as his Majesty has engaged to recommend to Parliament to guarante: the payment of it, he has thought proper to make this communication to the House, and his Majesty relied on his faithful Commons, that they will enable him to fulfil the engagements which he has contracted with his allies. On the motion of Mr. CANNING his Majesty's Message was ordered to be referred to the Committee of Supply on Friday. Mr.AUSKISSON presented an account of the produce of the War Taxes for the years ending the sth of April, 1808, and the sth of April, 1809, distinguishing the quarters.—Ordered to be printed. On the motion of Mr. HUSKISSON, the Copy of a Letter from the Commissioners for Auditing Public Accounts to the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury, dated Sth May, 1807, re lrive to Colonel Charmilly, with its inclosure, was ordered to be laid before the House. Mr. HUSKISSON immediately presented the above, which wsts ordered to lie on the table. Mr. THOMAS BERNARD gave notice that he would, on Wednesday, move for a Committee to inquire into the Laws re specting the Irish Distilleries, and the Bounties and Duties paid thereon. SIR JOHN 1110011 F.. Lord MORPETH wished to know whether any measures had been taken by his Majesty's Ministers, in pursuance of the assur ance formerly given by a Noble Lord that a proper provision would be made for the family of Sir - John Moore ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that steps had been taken for that puriose. In the first instance, it was the Intention of Government to bestow this remuneration on the mother of the gallant General, but finding that it was the wish of the family that it should be received by a male branch, Sir John Moores brother, measures were then in contemplation to tt, t eiNct. TIERNEY asked if it was intended to make. any mentary application for giving facility to the object to sieve The CHANCELLOR if the EXCHEQUER replied in :;,. negative, adding that the Civil List Fund w as su ffi cient ft,r 112; purpose. Mr. HORNF.R moved for a copy of all communications b . tween the Admiralt y and the l i reastiri tbe tion of a new Hospital at Y:trn , nti.h, &c. After a short discussion, in which Mr. R. W ARD, Mr. Ho, Nit, the CIIA - NCELLOR Of the . riCHEQUEItSILABE R . O • •,:. and Mr. P. MOORE partijiated, the motion wa s negatived w-iiil: out a division. Lord MILTON moved for leave to briog in abill to empow - Judges in England to try civil causes in their own counties. e. Mr. WILISERFt.?•RCE. seconded the motion, stating , ,h„ t Judges were nnaimous In their opinion, that such a pleasure s; ui ll .• e • tt be productive of great public convenience. • SINFEURE PLACES AND PENSIONS. Mr. MARTIN rose to call the attention of ti House to the Third Report of the FinanceComrnittee on the subject of Sinecure Places and Pensions, and observed that though he was persuaded he was only acting in the discharge of an imperious public dun:, he would have been better pleased if the task had been taken up by some other person. If the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Bankes) from whose labour s c ia, fi , this Report had proceeded, or if Ministers had p a '. posed any measure founded upon it, he would have been happy to have been relieved Emit thatclridtitteevh.--nici But although the task had fallen into hi s h an d s h eh,d the satisfaction to have escaped whatlier insi nuat i on 'was likely to attach to one whatrikinated such pea positions as he was about to submit t o the Aotise, for iinngreathlietyphleedwgeaswoinlilcyhasbsyistiitnsgownthe Resolutions H'ouseine given to the public. The Addresses which had bee n presented to his Majesty on the subject, and the ilia pointment of the Committee whose Report was unt!er consideration, for riled, in his conception, a clear te,d distinct pledge to the public of the principles by t - bich the House of Commons would be actuated when tins subject was brought under its consideration ; and I.e could not believe that the House would appoint it Committee to report upon Abuses, and yet when tks- Report's appeared leave them without bestowing am attention upon them or giving them any practical ct. fect. He (Mr. Martin) understood that the Hour: had held.out to the country the hope of having effect ed with regard to sinecure places and pensions all the reform that could be brought about without detriment to the public service. The amount of Pensions, Si. necure Places, and compensations in the nature if Pensions, Mr. M. further observed, was stated by th;s Committee to be £1,500,000. But then it wits to be remarked that there was a vat iety of offices of which nu return had been made, especially those connected with the ,Ducliv of Lancaster, of which Mr. Burke I had said that while it was vierth only Rsf.'Ax) in peint of annual revenue, was worth a 150,000 in the way ef Sinecure Places and. Expenditure. He admitted that the total amount of the very large sum which he had mentioned, could not perhaps by any motion or pre vision be so materially diminished as to afford any vtry sensible alleviation of the public btwthens. But look ing at the pressure of the taxes at the present period, ' and the great increase of the national debt, and,ccu [ sidering that of the whole amount there was a sum of i A 700,000 in which no Rei . o,m . could well take place, the House must tee! that it was its duty toendearr.ur to make every possible retrenchment in the ram:ie . -a Some of these Places and Pensions were unexception able and even necessary. Whatever contributed t - i the support of the Royal Family, to its comfort ';ir.fl , magnificence, would not be grudgeet - '' 17.11 e Rirh mentary Grants too, bestowed for distinguiShad.mert and service, ought not to be, distuthed.: - As long as these could be raised, they ought to be.paid,upon fit ground that they were just-and necessary. But when the House came to consider that all were raised INT direct taxes, or by fees, which operated as taxes, he was sure it would anxiously employ, itself in . Making all the retrenchments compatible with the public ser vice. In his view of the matter no saving could be made, as lee had already observed, so large as to al ford any very sensible alleviation •iiit the publit bur ;hens. But admitting that no great saving could be nude, still the House was to look atahe effect which would be produced on the publii mind, when IL? I people saw their Representatives detcrrnine&lo insti tute inquiries, and to adopt the most effectual .mta• sures for promoting the most rigid economy, and f:r confining the public expenditure within the narroweia possible limits. He was perfectly ready to admit that the House ought not to be guided in its measu: - es arbitrio popular:: awe, but, as the great snitesman (41r. Burke) had observed, where the wishes of thelseopix were in themselves right and just, they ought t 4 bt .1 law to the House of Commons. The reform which t! - .! country required, with respect to these Sinecure OF ces and Pensions, was in itself - just and right, and tietyal the maxim of Mr. Burke ought to be a law to the Hoe-!. —He then proceeded to state, that from the vt,r 1782, up to the present time, Committees had l'ker. appointed to investigate this subject, and to incli , :-z what retrenchinents could be made in con,isze . :.:7 with th e public safety. Hardly • a year l:ad passel without having the , public attention called to tl!i; branch of the eipen.diture,, and several valuable . Re ports had been presented, among which those of t.a.• Committee of 1796, at the head of which was the Speaker of the 'House, Were distinguished for t.!e sound policy and god sense which they displace.. But-what had been . donc in exonsiiitience ? He admit ted that some offices , iii'ilie, customs had been abo lished .up3n - the representatiohs contained in these Reports, hut as to the rest, 'not one step - had been taken. The House would find fromth e Report o f the Comniittee of 1796, that offices in the Courts of justice, especially in the Court of Exchequer., to the amount of 426;000 might be . properly_abolished, and the same remark had begia made by - Lad - Chief Jus tice Hale. Yet nothing had been One uppn this sug gestion, and it would be found that many of theru had been granted in reversion Avon the terminatioa of a life interest. - Parliament, - however, had an op portunity of abolishing theae.offices, when a provi:ioa was made for retiring Judges, and for. Chancellors going out of o ffi ce. -- Parliament might then undoubt edly have stipulated for'the abolition of these eific•! s - Who ever .considered that Jtiages. had once been re' movable at the pleasure of the.. Crown, lutist 17tirilt. • that when their situationsswett Madepermanent , w!•' I their salaries had from time to-time betn augmented although he was far from it sin . uating.th4 they wcr, over paid, an arrangement might,.liave been n 1.7.; with them, by which these Si nocures miot-have 5e ,1 done away, The purchase and stile of officess;,ll )I2 to tt . it ty Par: iew 'd in t;i : It ft,r lb ; • won' b. r the H o; . mosi gn, red erep oi ,„, ties, 4 'lir the urewut;; of th e Mraittte )ns, at d vas only lic duty, lad been Inurable s chittiy had Pr. ald ho e is he h,d intt.itio z uch Ouse, for redeem. ns it 11,:d had been 1 the ras unk!er :lean by tlicl a vilest ; and i.e