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DUTCH AND GERMAN PAPERS. EIGHTH BULLETIN OF THE FRENCH ARMY.' t, VIENNA, MAT 16. The inhabitants of Vienna greatly praise the conduct of the 'Archduke Rairser, who refused to support the Government in the revolutionary measures ordered by the Emperor Francis, and that the Archduke Maimilian was therefore appointed-to com mand in his stead. 1 his young Prince, who swore to bury himself under the ruins of Vienna, no sooner learnt that the French had crossed 'ht Danube to cut off his retreat, than he surrendered the .• ...lawn without even transferring the command to any other person. •. The misfortunes which have thus befallen the House of Lor raine were foreseen by all intelligent men of whatever principles. ikefakfriciini, the Prince De Ligne, Old Count Wallis, the deceased Coyne Cobentzel (who was the thief promoter of the war in 1P0.5) . endeavoured to prevent. the-present war : but the pride of site Ent; feror Francis, the hatred of the Archduke Charles against Rut. • eia, the jealousy he felt on ieeing Russia and France strictly united,. the English gold which purchased the Minister Staditsri, the levity of the women, the hypocrisy and false reports of Meternith, all contributed to bring about this senselesaced treacherous war. The Emperor has reviewed the heavy cavalry of General Ilan sooty, 5000 strong, and has given to the bravest officer of each regiment the title of Baron, and to the bravest .Cuirassier a deco ration of the Legion of Honour, with 1200 francs. We found at Vienna 500 pieces of cannon, a great number of carriages, and immense quantities of bails, &c. The Austrian Monarchy issued more than SOO millions of paper to support the preparations for this war,and the number of bilk In circulation amounts to snore than 1500, millions. Dating the bombardment of Vienna, only about ten houses were destroyed, and the people remark, that this misfortune fell ./port the most zealous promoters of the war. The few days rest which the army has had, has been of great advantage. The wea ther is fine, and we have scarce any sick. The wine distributed to the troops is in abundance, aid of ea% .11ent quality. PARIS, MAY !S. We learn from Spain, that General Sebastiani oc cupies the Province-of La Mancha. ' The Duke of Belting, is at Merida. The official accounts hem Valladolid of the.l2th. inst. vont-An an account of the dispositions of ;he. Diiite 4 of lehingen; who occupies Gallicia, whoM General Kellerman has greatly reinforced at with the Duke of Treviso and General tonet..—Se.. feral columns must by this time have penetrated into'the Asturias, and those measures will complete the deliverance of the whole of the Northern part df Spain. • • • . PASSAU, MAY IS. 1 3 41110 thee. Austrian army under the command of General Hiller passed the Danube on the 9th, and has joined, thn Archduke Charles, who was advancing .Bohemi a. • Thei . Freneh troops have already extended them teliris towards Moravia : the Austrians in Hungary sweat Asinburg, near Presburg, and the French at Regelitrun.-I)av oust is marching towards Bud weis. Ib.d.RLMMENTARr PROGE.CDINGS. • HOUSE OF .LORDS, ;UNE I. The House its a Committee ilfPiiiileges heard Counsel in the Banbury Peerage Claim, the farther consideration of which was postponed to-Tuesday next. • ➢A[JLETT'S DIVORCE BILL. The East of HARDWICKE moved the second reading of this The LORD CHANCELLOR left the Woolsack, and entered into a most minute and learned investigation of the whole of the testimony given at their Lordships' bar in support of the Bill, par ticularly the evidence given by Mrs..Paulett's waiting *onion. -hick was not only so very contradictory, and se very Improba • ble, as well as Incractble, that their-Lordships could not, in the ca pacity of legislators, ever sanction a Bill, supported-, ors - rather attempted to be supported by .uch testimony His Lordship la mented most deeply the case of Colonel Paulen, than whom, he believed, there was not a more honour..ble man ; be lamented his case the more, because he never could impute to h:m any sinister motives respecting the Bill, and because he felt for his afflictions—but then, he said, their Lordship; hada great public . duty to perform, and consistent with It be could not countenance the Bill. 'The Earl of HARDWICKE supported the The Duke of NORFOLK and other Noble Lords spoke much to t h e same effect Bo: on the question being put, it was nega tived without a division, and the Bill is of course lost. ,~ The Report *I die Irish Post Reads PEI Wig ordered to be taken into further consideration to-morrow. The Paupers Removal, the Irish Loan, the Judges', the Irish Militia Pay and Clothing, unt the Irish Treasury-MD nallswlire severally read a thirct•ti,n", abd Pissed. 13te.lasolvent Debtors' BUJ wash through a Coisibilliose.-Re- Port ordered to be received to-morrow. •-4 . The lvllb Mllkia BEI went through a Committie.,—Jltelport or dered to be received to; Morrow. .: .• • . d - "re The Seamen's Wages Bill was ropenged,antteedirreLtelletreed a third tint" re-morrow. The Friendly Societies' Bill went thrOngt a Cenemittoe.. The report was then brought up. and ordered to he taken into totisis Aeration on Tuesciapsext, and the Bill printed. Mr. STURGES BOURNE brought in a Bill to enable bisMs jeety to make rates, exchange. ; and purchases in Windsor Forest. The IRS was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second hitrtV y. lICISSON brougki Is * 'Three Million. Vote of Credit Bill, Which was reattiikleillinte, hod ordered to be read asecond time this day. sr .1 Mr. H. BROWN brought up the Report of the Commbefonerkl for making and maintaining the Caledeinian Canal.—Ordered to lie on ;he table. . Sir JOHN SINCLAIR obtained leave to bring is a Bill for re gulating the NumbeVitPereinie tarried on the outside of Stage. ;l coaches, Ice. • • • . Mr. SHAW LPFEVRI .presented a Petition front the Go. 'ethers of St. Luke's Hospital, praying to be included in the operatisa of the Charitable Donation BlL—Ordered to lie 112 the Table. 1377TILLERlits. '• Colonel BARRY presented a Petition •front the DietiSert Of the County of Cavan. egainst the Bill pending In ?erbium*, , on the subject of Distilleries. * ;••• On the motion of Mr. FOSTER, it was withdrawn rowiteelhat of informality, the signatures being all in one hand.writing., LORD £URGHERSH. Cslonel SHIPLEY withdrew the notice which-Wood for th i ls night respecting Lord Burghersh's aypointments. 'llse Armour; able Gentleman diselainied any personal motives of action to wards the Noble Lord ; and averred, that he felt only that inte rest in the matter which, as a. wrnberaPf that pr./itemise to which - .isi lireleinged, he should ever continue to feel for its honour. • He congratulated the House end the Country on the triumph wkieh they had thus obtained ever the undue. influence etch', Minister, and eap • ~ . ted a hope that the present disappointment of the Noble Lord would not deprive the Service of . thoselsenehts which may be derived from the gallantry which the Noble LoralotAtrays ' dis Played• .‘ • ' • 'llllSil SPIRITS" hllll4.tfittltl LILL. - •• In a Committee on the Irish Spiritilltespelosion !St, .' , • , The CHANCELLOR of the EXCgb..QUER pr op ose d , that obehlanit should be filled tip so as to extend the operation o f the Bate. March, that parliament might beetzin Opportunity of con- , sidering what further measures sbouldboadepted. •• i This was opposed by Sir J. NEWPORT, Mr.,HUTCHIN SON, Mr. W. SMITH, and other Honourable Members, on the grounds that it might thus be put Mr 4el infritum. Thertitinghit , Parliament ought to make some permanent. provision, in t ‘ ht 1 ' course of the present Session, even sliough.it-eoMpelteil thelkllt .: sit some time longer than they expected, • .•: . • ••• v... 1, 1 : A division took place on the Atnendnient moved bg iIIe.JOHN , NEWPORT, in which the numbers were — ; ' • •• et .t."! Ayes 16—Noes 65.—Majority for.the XII 4.114 7 *. •*. ' • .. .. . JUDGES SAI.AEIEs. . , j 2.,..• , ~;;., The CHANCELLOR of the EXCI-11/OER hay)egfeAthe Order of the Day for going inttua Committee co t stlie dill foY'itii nsenting the Judges Salaries, .„ • , , :. .. ..: . : . • Mr. Il*A-RTIN stated, that if he bad a distinct answer from the Right fionnarable Gentleanan OR the softfiet of the sinteufes in the different Courts, from the.reduction of whit's,. in his dpi- , nion, a feed may bi formed Which would arisvier the'pvrposa of paying the present amitnentattons.to she Itillges."' •• ..•••• '. *. i The CHANCELLOR of the tXCHIQPAII. 143,.the.ipliesr riots was not from what food the augmeitation should be mode, bated the propriety of making such an auginintatioin ' • •• ' ' A 'Message from the Lord, intereened. It announced their Lordship. assent to the Martinique Trade Bill, and sorneethers 7 of a mi.." e nature. _ • i i : - Mr. CURWEN, for the purpose of bringing forwtitd his Mo tion wished to postpone going into a Corcrinhtee on ..the.oresestr• subfect, under the idea that it Would tie attended with a' pre- ' tracted debate. The CHANCF.I.LOR of the EXCHEQUER, as he could not anticipate any objection to the measure proposed, so he did not apprehend any extent of debate would arise on the +object.. • Mr. H. MARTIN re-stated that he had nwohjectionto the principle of the Bill ; but as a Committee in 1797 had reported that there were sinecures *in the law department to the amosint . of .2.6,0001. which ought to• be aboltaised, be was anxious - foe oft . explanation on that'head. • _ ~ The CHANCELLOR of tke'Ete/lIII4PER'iaId;•• that the proposed augmentation was blended to be made froth the eons= lidated fend. His opinions, helsrlieved,Mere pretty well Eno** upon theartaagement4 those sinecure plathes.' He could not, however, give any pledge : upon that head until he Was furnished with proper ittforitiatiott; Lord li. PE iIY supported the motion for (nether considering the measure proposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman. After a few words from 14v. WILBRRIORCT, in support of.' what he caged a t.trtly act of justice, which should live been done before the House went into a Committee on the BIN The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. stated, that from wbat,had been already said, - ft would riot be necessary for bins to make any apology fur the measure, or give much expla nation of the subject. He briefly stated The, vartons angrnenta-': tiona which had taken plate in the salaries of the Jiiclgei, and that the last was In 1799, since which tirnethe expense getter titbit had considerably increased. He intended to include. the Master of the Rolls-in the iitni.• beti that Learned Oenttetilin hid stated that his present income.was.peefectir.adequosSette malstraii that I state in society which he ought no hold. (Repo;!, .Hattel) • At' present the salaries of the liniges' were . :1006t ettirviliett the ex. ponces of keeping Servants,_theaaksperty, andother saves, were deducted, they bid no more than .20..0. clear tpliae,upon; which. every man • must allow re WU - Ode:title to triamtaiit ,r9ople of their rank. lie therefore proposed to make tbeir.realAalary what" it now was nominally, 30 , 101. which would be done by allowing them 40001. a year instead.of Settol. - lle thought that increase necessary, that their situation might continue . 11.1 t e 4u olectlf emulation, with the ettiermensbera of tine pidffiVbn.; . tiv also wished to make the same increase io the.solagyof the Chief Patron',." as his emoluments were not io much as those' of the OfWei• f likf Justices. The Welch Judges,, it pilAittri hail knonSinal AutlarY of 7501. from which was to be deducted their travellingo4(oer. necessary expences, and the difference svia blorfouSiy inatielliate to reward them for the less of time they:sustained in titeViseherge• of their judicial duties. He ',wind therefote reavre.,:thikt(O' iii. create ot three liundr•-(1 pounds per itfitein ' theuhllsw-Witedw to their salaries. With respect to the Judi* in 'Scptlrtit.iCd tie. ; trod, he wrs not prepared to make ai.i'pi-or4isffion.at present, but by the next Session he would be ready to sn'tniiit"ifrliVisid to the House for nuking a proper increase in their salariii4 tvld4h he believed to be as necesssu y in troth thosfl o cce : MtfallAt,liilkilltv moved land and Wales. He then a ReselittiMio the abclie yci. Lord HENRY , PET I'Y aaittltat Abe ,present Awes •iiiiiiintire I which had occupied the attention of the late, radminiiiritlion,.and. that they latitude[ to bring forwird a propOsltion, similar tri that , which had now heist brought forward by. the Right -licirrottrable 'Gentleman. Be Congratull.ted tbs House and thy .49 u n t c y a pe , the pore administration of justice sii:ich luau mitiformli obtained during the present retigh,.and trutted3hat k wOoklaiways Con tinue so, and that its officers would be properly rewiardtd•• : . , . Mr. W11.1..1A hiS WI'IINE approved - 61'1U 'priiciole. of, the - measure, but he did not think that an increase of.Mtly•toutJa:' year to the ularies of the Welch Judges sofficjimt tak.n.sokeAlii situation an object frir good lawyers . ; be thereture would submit to the Committee, whether an increase of Mk i ykrarosild fiat he Aare ad, iseible, as instances were knot" of lalaytelkircing declined !wattling Judges in Walt's, heciuse theyr did not c 'insider. tbemia•ries-adequate tovoropensate their Islittli for the iliiiii of their professional practice. • - , -.- tii,y• - - .t.: t Mrs .BANKESAiaiviiiiing to ate tte ' 'Judges hi y on at e w 4) i Pai° 6417 t d het " t hey 3.ia !h l ot e l i d l. ju b d r.. ic ilis i ci d u u a t liSed b . j f f i a m ‘ si e ttisighp ' meat, because suspicions- might be entertained that thej "quilt,* biassed in kite rat Adruluistratioo. . • 1- , :•- -- " ' "J l'tre CEIANCELLOR ot the Exc HE QUE.It.-wisho thr con; eideration oldie sdygeition 9f the . HonOurahle- Gentleman vi•ho spoke last to bidefcrred, as it would lead to a very 'mg diseut &ion, and was foreign to the present: question.. if ft ' , ma the veitlf,. of the House to allow att increase of five hatidred Pounds instead of 3001. he had no obiection to 13. ; - ::., ...:‘,'• z' • 7 '" ' - ••• Mr. ADAM . itiou dilkiet the , ii si llil, s ll s4o.se.gf: ,three hundred poundil,litteSiti [dile; woo iaderrtied 01 their ... P . r " 6c , . 1 . k % a le"- . .1 . : .;* :I . G:, .' " ) .. ' • % 1 ' • 14. CIIARNIII.LY. The Earl of SUFFOLK, pursuant to notice , moved for seve ral Papers respecting the Rank and Station which M. Charinilly did and doth >old in the Army of this Country, the emoluments he received for the same, and the Services hope' formed (if any) which entitled hie to those emolnments. The Noble Earl also moved, That there he laid before the House accounts of the ap pointments this Person received, and the reasons why he Inter fered in our Mill:sty and Diplomatic Affairs in Spain and Portu gal, and several other matters respecting him. They were sevcrsl!y ordered without the least opposition. SMALL LIVING% On the Order of the Day being read for taking ills Majes'y's Message into consideration, The Earl of LIVER IOOL moved art Address to his Majesty, for his most gracious communication, which was nn echo of the Message. H.s Lords'aip then stated, that the object which his Majesty's Ministers had in view, was to apply this Sessions to Parliament fur the vim of £lOO,OOO to be annexed as an augmen tation to the Fund established by Queen Ann's Bounty, in aid of those Clergy, the amount of whose livings did not• exceed 1501. a-year. He was confident that their Lordships wutiO join him in the principle of the measure, the more especially when he hid the satisfaction of stating, that he hoped in the course of the nett' Sessions of Parliament to lay before the House a plan for better ing the situation of those (low who came within the meaning and object of that fund. The number of C h urch I.i , ings in Eng land and Wales amounted to 11,700, of these 2291 were under 1501. a-year-8.51 4 were under 501. a-year, and 2285 were under 1001. a-year. Him Lordship concluded a •ery comprehensive speech on the subject, by stating, that the intended plan should be submitted to their Lordships consideration at a very early period of the next Sessions of Parliament. Lord SIDMOUTH was &friend to the principle of the mea sure, but he did net understand why that House should pledge itself to support the graat, required. when.. most likely, it would come before them in the usual Appropriation Bill for the current year, arising from the resolutions of the Committee of Sum, y in the Commons. His Lordship desired furtFer information on this head before he consented to th.: Address. Lord HARROWBY entered into a most minute detail of tle . history of the Bounty Fund, and the necessity of encreasing it.— Ile noticed the differense in the value of money since that fund wa s established, now nearly a cenrury, and he put it to their Lordship. janiee, as well as humanity, whether any more delay such take place in a meaci2re of such acksowledged necessity, a, well as importance ? The Duke of NORFOLK noticed the obserratitm of the Noble Earl, that " the plan would be submlttad early- ha the nest Ses sions of Parliament." He hoped then that Parliament would meet in November, and that Noble Lords would thereby have the op portunity of discussing at their leisure the public business of the nation. • The Earl of LIVERPOOL replied. that from his experience he uniformly found it to be the ease, that, In Parh.....teut meet, when they would, the end of the Session was always crowded with Bills ; he knew no device by which that incunveuience could be avoided. Lord SIDMOUTH vynke in explanation. The question was then put, and carried vs ithout a division. The oche Orders of the day were disposed el.—Adjourned. HOME OF COMMONS. The fill for more effectually recovering Penalties and Forfei tures in the British,Plantations in Amtnca was read a first ume, and ordered to bercail a seeoud time dna day. The Bill for 4itilitthi Public Accounts was read a third time and paned. • The third reading of the Irish Distir.t . r . iesll was postp o n e d an to-nuiriow. The Padlots Lands BilLasstead a third tin T irand p ane d . l mar • • - Mr. AATHYJILIT wished to alahniblo the aitehthiss of Ow' Paslament ; and also that Oitt! shotajd be litienaltv ee l lodges in Waldt•toithelie bf England. ' - 1 the *eerier, orb' Vest ar 1- Kiiima,t ,gbjeett how Lord Mils•TON wiehed•-zhaa the tuareilSiiiad Wit the As• ~ i .. ii ... ~;,_,, .... ; .,. i .,....c d .,.. 1 .":. .. sizes twice a year in thOsoiltSsOnicoonties, instead of once, as it, ;;;i= ii ii . "7:::";:fg. 7; 1 ." lii, a.ars . as till present. Many prlitir r.there detained fur la mond*" .. _cis :11 . ~_lie . v .. 1f3 tn . 4 4 ux7 4. , . go . w er „ f. without being broottial, and at last , perhaps, acquittedlietifittatiettug : Ott* tuning* cleckveß. p t s: ornmit. . odaick was a etwaretrieetnee g - s'• • ~ '-; - '. 'l. tee of, •thaillouskr;' and thoilearing,li itipZethe r 2 # Mr. WM. SMITH wished the preps in in,ereaaetet be tall# thew mercy. - .114 lititai 41116 titafeet to.Alt3t part . 4 h e . ' frdIDAIIII stklittnit places{ Aid 'Ninths measure would , hr. the l i sursreenctiresee of the odenery.' 7f' .•• • ' ' - IEI 'Which .- Made'iti'grk.4t" Or' . 0,-, Any of • t . e . -- Mr. Wkii a - BREAD wished the Assizes to be held twice a- equivalent A i 11109ezr ! Hs • . kyr" } -t 7/!httt he yearik.sllo Parthenifokultiek He . abv'sviand"i'd• "'al the •jinertiii isiT kW kfli • mg. 5. 1t0- 1 1 1 0 1 *) ce i'llitlP ant:unlit fit the Constitution, of a Judge sitting as a Member , of, ii. 1,..1X.; w 1 hu -I 4 6 l l: e t o ggig be ' nce i vp d , er i t t, e ‘. thrliriuse tif Cehinscmi i se was this:sat with the 'Weida Judgest...,7 l '.. .117,....!. ,_ ,I . . 1. .. ....ei, .i . u . il . t., _ ... ...../ 05 i. Every Judge .c 4 the land ought.to le reetltradlidetaodint 0 the'uent.'ne r e use .. or, -- / 14131 ° ta nsriel" .l "- Ckown. He particulaNy objected to 'lnt person holding tit* fon. °dices ntottneiltled 'hy )inese ira .., w .,, ~..d oilers of holicitor thentitali la 3 Watch Jidge, and holdin g a seat env Ail Ol* of - a,prillit*to ,All oAcesTunder e 7 !, that Heim. _ .... _- . 1 lit title • *ail crifititutifeilly Vested. inlbe afore a , .TbeCHANCitf..4olt, otthe EXClitQUltit. said that there , , ~.. ~,..„.. ; itt „, ~ . . i wolld-beampie time for sliscussing tho bill in its di ff erent stages, Pe7er /rtymn . Wal 147 . 7 qen .. • Mrfe.JtorebevrA v id Without enteringiiite any collateral Matter before the resolution atik;Athet...hr, - gentirapt ape s irg,'atty ~ 0.,1 et v ,,i )n should be pined.. lie adinittod tbe propriety of htiktlng the As. •oitli t i.i ai t • ( isti c .,.,. o r , ite 7 ;aia ,'' • m';',... •_., tirstis twice a year in the northern counties, but he did mat think • • i he i v : ••- .. g e t ~,t i ,, - if fi,: . 4 - rr i 7 ti,,,,, Av the Judges had dine for it In winter, as the Interim' between : •..I - • •,,,::. lyi-,7 1 :,:._":V a ' 1 ! -1 . • . 4(1 17 elser•Ternts was not then so Jong so in ttio summer roam. He ... . , , ..?“t tiii.rw 4 .. ..., .; err*T, ( - 1 4 sier no'necessity 'for egeluding the Welch Judges . from thee-rouse -tri'llollll/ for an offleei „en.,:tid harely, 'of Commons, as men of theiir &denim and infornistiOn were -ji aii i i c beiabitoaitid'ilArt et . Cegfre of j; , . maze , likely to add to its T iadosti and consequence: 'l4 estlide tiscat i fit t et e i iiii i itte r ifai t Trt ,0114;i1011 to di! 1-.• at Present, he thought ;mold also throw en invidious r e flection Al.,„ajeux.d,;,4,;„ r i t id 4 ,... t ik s r , rie ly t h. t.. c__ 7 ". on-blekight Hotionrat>le Mend, the Sidielthr Galeria. "Grits e . '?Ir! 1 7 ! I „17;147 1 , • . , .r.,. .. t _ . P 4 4 e . Snind aftst•ekkena to me prohibitiop of tair bon..? 4 .,,. r ,„ ta Nil No . 1 ) lie roust consider it in that light , however', suit' hoped the House would consider it fu ll y betorstisey should de- . at. electiqns, nor 'to qty' ill ,fide sl le; !li i'l . " of r,l - on it. • Wet, midi . = -might sometimes take place i n mint After a few obser v ations from Mr. rONIONIT and Mr. Vii ..., IL • • y ': egittiOn 4 s. • He must also object to the oath con;a 4,. ‘ ituirotct, in which they regretted that the business of the Sale of . in the Bin, as he tliought it StlffiCiet*4}`ltt. t tllts eautt. ()Mks should have Ikea at all mixed up with the present pro pokd ,addition to the salaries ofthe Judges, • der'shairld be liable to the rnalty of reriaval from Tile ae, o hnien was put and carried, with this ata.ration, that the House, without any temptation being held out . 70 the commission of perjury. The Han. MernbA r ca y a . there should be' an aildition qf 4001. to the salary of the Welch Judges a iastendel./0121. . I chided with reading an amendment, which h.. p ro . . • SEATS IN PARLIAMENT. - I posed; to the effect of confining the nflorcl :-n the On the, motion of M. CUR.WEN, the House went gift or promise of money, that the peririn vrltn sc• into a COmmitteeon the Bill for preventing the Sale gives or promises shall vacate his sear, and thepersen of Seats in Parliament.' - , , 'receiving it shall be subjected to a fine of i. 7101). • The SPEAKER rose and `said, that unwilling as ! Mr. CURWF.N observed, that there : as INF% incli. he was at all times to obtrude his sentiments on the , : 'Mid i)i.the House who did not listeg : writlt i l i 7 ; ) 42 . House, still there were subjects of Poch paramount tiithetinei to MAC !lid - fallen from tbeltigist,gp a , importance, as called upon every Member 40' state: Metrilief tiliii`iPolte. o:st . in the debate, and theieal his sentiments, and this appeared to hies to be one of .; which he display ed fir maintaining the.parity,ofthe these subjects. In truth the question was, whether': Hanle.- 'He fe no diflietilty in acknowledging,that seats in that House were to be saleable to the highest.; hiii:Bilt4rits eery imperfect ; and thoughlethogght bidder, a proposition, the very - e iention - of. which Ithietthe alleratiMil proposed by the .chaocellot i o - (the i.: , • would have ;truck ostr, ancestors with astonishment. I Exchequer wotild r , have little or no efect.in sgOnish. (Hear, hear!) *And yet, wehad heard some sort of linkstke inflnetiCe of ilie Crown. : yet, at this laitlieeiod defence set pp for the peNtice • though sure he was, toirthti SesilionoPf slititild•be glad to adaptithesp, - ,ra. ;that 'unless' thellouse proceeded to brand and stigi. I diet than noshing at ill. He confessed that th e oath . matize the practice as unconstitutional and destruc- he had , piopflioied., Was probably to o long, bufheavas I : tive, they -would- bring a . public scandal on themselves still atilierits that the sanction of an oa t h, sh ou hl be ; . pcilhe patiop, (gap! 0-.. and would find scats in that i retained, and on this point he felt himself disposed p Rouse exposti.tn public and open sale, like any other i take the sense of the House. ?After the- experience tr-arkeitablie - Oininodity. -But .it was a qaestirrn with I which-we had had of the purity of the .4ecisions•of vim, '-whethei;:ihii modetif. proeuring.a seat in Par- Committees on contested ejections, .4. shetty..hive --liamentwai a poll4eal ev?l; t pietienhify as_ 14pisesed little objection to Confining, the deeisica 0 .*Ay t to to. be connected with . the influenee 'of IrroPetty.' Nose 1 goinitlit tees appointed by . the litise... i i .,` , ;N that the _influence : of:property should.,lastsee• its due .• Mr. PONSONBY auspeciecl, that, fret ii:gialtyra share in the ,f4anation of the i Legislature, he should 4, tiOns now p roposed.hy the Chancellos, A e Bache be'ilie litirnian 'td deny; it was that which Most ever i quer,it would .follOw# In fact,'. that the Minister for give stability. tie , Sfiteig - and tiermatience to Empi res. oi ! the day, whoevet . hewas, *mild have the whole.,mo. :But that this infliteriee 'should go to an open and nopoiy of such seats as had been heretofnee aisided, • shameless. market,. that :men should sell the - attlidh. in respect of purchaie, between 'MinisteraAndiprivate anent of their friends , and• dependents, and that • too individuals. It was besideS quite eitsy tia,get that a 'to Strangers of Whoin'4ey seAo., know nothing,- he person, on being convicted of such ' a purchase before ni-n'ct iinet''celitqldei. is'a "political' .ivil of the highest a Committee, might, according OA:tem . poied alter. magnitude,- which,: if eVertooked and *disregarded, ations, pay his fine'of 000, and be agatn elected f. 7 must taiat . and:adegrade-el* higher irdeti; 'while it the same borough which he had previously purchased. contaminated. the. character ,01 - I)4rliament; and fur- He thought, therefore, it should be added, that a _nished the strongest topics of argument and abuse to person so convicted should be declared incapable of those, if such men therewere, whp, .under the mask sitting in the same Parliament to.wliich he Was.cri• of veCirin, 'Wished - Kit eta total oVerthrow, of. nut poli• finally returned.. Indeed the amendments propesed tical es-tablislimentair4tlver the'eliiisitiallangUage of by the Right Hen; Geatlektr-' ' ' - , one Constitution k / pod ,0f.41/.' , ..0un - .Stitutes r ;thitt , the I change the bill entire', ' teettsii slatilti he free . in .: tite,oboice of their Rcpre- and, as he wnitid iiiso,l ' sentatives ; and i; :seal en i acted,`lq t •lorig. n,. ac *the emit. he'diottilit'illi bea! refeild4f F. 74 .AWaAd Wit *xi - no T .nia - X.Vstrifeh .4 0 the ivalindineati *side lifi,lai; qinquerotti sbnti)sl .exeitike -Any influente 'sn the , in order thatlheltotise., 69 ice. QlAPT_Metuberlt . for those , privet. •Ttideed'eVery I . coneteteritie4 &Ai' ft it ctegiee c>f undue influence of this sort intd(bien ;Nall i gether ; tend that thq, j aires reprobated by that, Hoge kisod if we look into ; cotasidetittitist''of ilk7l all- the jaiisdiedniis of" the Courts, we shall fi nd that I Billehifekfhat - the Ch. all offences *ICII4IIII%I' Ittie been looked. into and stake; ithOpiastiCe ifT', _ , apitlinrcba,se..., ~,,,, punished accOrilittgly. • . We' shall also find, that a n y ,was of thekitiist scandaloys i nalttre, sed;r c aleuliter* attempt to sotatt'otafihe kioize of .electors; has' at all I excite thegtilttst distrust :of o,e;t,fpo' ~p;. o lcAligly: times beep foetid, an pflence.g t common law; as'Well : if an opinion preiinled;the.t ! fpfa.aum.sittnoneyestert as by thicstUftifei - iipd cootitotion of the realm, and i person Whafsoier tti:ighthve a vOte , .Ili, I,*Leislas,„ that this *lone S-111 - bliti a initfiCient, reakon,for declis, I tore of' the - tOnittrY.,,y.trtisted - -the:it l4 l l , 4 !:o"wa ring elk such ciseticinsiiitil• ' Here' the'HOn. Membe r I be . able ta frame suck pNyisacins A s.'7.4):4; k ut. h • : cut - instanced:a 'ouore,:of this' kind in thi 'elekiop of a ! of the poiiree,44eonlyplindividnalo44:Ai?v*n- Memher , for the, Stirling boroughs, where 'in agree-1 ment too;:tti engage in . iiiii . a - AcairFir...: 7:7 :YE v:!' . .: ' , meat to . gi eilmpe,y (or,procuring a seat was. declared , Sir JOHN ANSTiegtliX.B..tlio* t 4 .:N6114 11 5e void`) MI of Ses s ion idScotlas4illegal, and I should be infrodtkeed, extending:ail P. iiiilliZenlik elitire-Jideeell - iltorles.` llnt'c'ertaialy: if the common law I tainelnde the fermi of thelitiberr oittft4M . 4.11 o• had not beeciesind effectual, 'it= Walthe business cif i of 4 4 place, eitfpliiyniiiit;.,nfrse, or,:trioar4.,,H a Thia the Legi j s . htto,,to isrovide.a isliefeiiel statute rtii. pie' t 1 Ortiviiiiatris:66lcl - includ e place r t,mi4,inticp44re4.- .. , . yelit.in,g si.cprloc.c.s.io,-fsikister, and-hutrustel, that i tonne appliink to the Tr es anry ispg:4.savolgrea sfili itCusr ~et 4Olit,it.w.itl2,kUlceykr And. diiigeove; : son why the electedihoul4.noi-15i' *4'.pE44.tai4 , ofir'tedutculiiiviyiri<iti so, .v, least, in wgreat ' the same terms illiilf'iteti . jitestl, ' . .Fi0,44. -!, degnei.-- - •;With ir*Ord'to thb'Present Bill, the Nom i , Mr, TIERNEY cnnai,:derepn'' " i ti,eCts . ,sarci,., ; • 3 G„„en.,,,,„,,,,..„„w0d.„,e,„ if, would pardon him for ; House was iii- she'd O 4 t ie Pal . reit- - 4;i 3l ,o,: ( Vejjk l. i ? taying,,thit hie,thought. Otis fintise 'was more * pro Pe t, l'iknefiee at elections, ' ' 04400 iy l if tati'l l :.l'iFe. Of aeciding_a fialir . of Ao k irei n st, than, by Court* of ;".2t - eatiehle of. biitiglird; l 4. l lf,Viiiiniii a • .thetefore a irroidr I tit.fiAler4l 4 i ,arft Ake% ! thap_ probably more' . ettin ObtightiOn ought to beitnpoied:in eecry lt"..em -7 ffeation4itin4riont could'hi"fOond than the mere ad- • ber. He believed . that a yreat security might be f&niSteationof .attleith. - -' 1 Ile s tinliglit the most effec- gained to the purity of election, if every Member, took 'tual way woukd bevto impose .a penalty both on the an oath that his election was a banal* tranaaction : buyer avid sellet . eif a seat in Parliament, and that With respect to the aMendmerit:or, , ,•tiAlt 4 9 l- lik a ' I - th'.'Personsitcrtild 'llA detkgoilty of a • mistiemea.. Gentleman, it was a moutrous'tropoAttocifF,, It..”T4s knotit"heeOtnttioti .. laii.. whatever might be the could not be given to perssi he w } eVat'° l WßlALtsPter I,ll e ro .ih vis n i ti ls ie wli a t wi the t ilinite might think 6t to ad o p t , .piiiiti- of election, and until' heir:a:ill ib ls iffeW . 3 tdilkeilhe ' . .prineiple of the 'Bill establidbed' ity the sense of the )..iptir. 14,scilyi, 4Pt leilEil4tit.it Awn; iwitichAir4etirsitipearect to rain to be ' give his, assent. to it,- All puw;c,,olloe . riphoiapPrO itrlipePjfipt tweossafy,.totbetkonour of this' Hou se their pittitioage to infloence the trot* 4, i iitrection, r'a &TO.* Cointtry.at large. i ..; ,„ ,•• •- ' - • • , were guilty of an illegal act, Which - reinaed)! • l a Ilk' e/I ANCELI OR' of t i he , txpgnciug,R '.by heavy penalty. The 'Hon.. : , , cOostlndo4 roineideetsitklohli`ltkhilibti:Filenil, who h. 4 d , fe. by eipressing hia incliaatiOn'tO ai)ppt.i. nah ilk • . vPIPI44 I thelinuse 'kitty hie senthitenti on this' subject'. ' 9tft the imenclinerit,. rathrix,.4iust ..tial neat 041101.44101nt#111 - beifielt deli - Hired i'higiiiittgiciby , "wiiliOnf the oath. . ''', -,:...: .., - i , ;:cii _,. t , .,, •,••• the Nouse, NIA lhal., Sutter brought- Kohl*. on . atifindi. - • Mr "O . • R OS 1. 7 : hid' rio l oVeOokkia : w : penOtyor•- ~ viduil,' a Vacancy af Fat 6904 . , ;Mined iatelecheatezAttspriaonnient . 04 roight l , ee . propoae4, 2 to. patv...ijs Glared. 'With regard' to the Common 14w, on Okc sub. • agiinst . theeill, t. 4 u:lticlit 4 ;$ . lll. rekrtet i bss4* rut ject si be belieyed ahat,soch a sale avnill'd be pronounced vlopiectiiiiike. oath; bi.einie:lhe 44At . . 4 . *onscien.... illegal, thoiliji he,doubted muchlvtiotherit iFiiitld%i''liotitirieit - tiaigliVeel.'ii'. diflica; to, tir i ao oath which : • dedired . a misdemeatietkr., .4c..,thesarne tintethut heAsiiiiifieiely a con ii fii4ii 21 . 141t t 2 ti ifatruPt.Pra,ic , u-as - diitittetft of Opinkon,that the, practice was 311.egahiaic?‘"* - ioni# be distinctly drAkieilo ill', 614gctism 1v,( 31 .'' he telt the greatesedi &kitty .ai'. to :how alie. E s ill,, : caoiciii,sait itripik . :" - I.iit really at the Matter sioUtl,ke cti4:l___*.: be framed in such a: manner asisciilloput dioviA, 014t.4 , fee that the OAth couldin 411 cast's be safly l tikeso9l , influence ofjproperty . that' watrisiSttatial'eallie Con- i thcrati4iti r who meant not to offend.' - . . • , i ,„;•..' , stitution, ~ T 4 greor 9404 t which the Bill' prolibier', ' Ifir vc . wyisai(g taut, ht the egesti; Of t ,triF,'! :.. "-• -to Ptivgtit . viis the cirenstance -aka: ieat• - beititsliiie - woffid be more mischievous . . tb44:sir** l 7- t e ss, ft .7- ' the subject of 'a distinct sale . ; and,ii, doingao) itravas provisionS were extendedto,•the e4l4,Age. i cif evern. I to be considereathat there Were Perients v., - bia,had,pnly, meat . offices, as_avelli . l4layi&: fipArjti?i-te4.tj it '. tae disposal in part of such seats. Tfin's 'far he was Parlittzt. - . lt IttelustiOr 00 - . T .MgElffi i°ir c r * # tY "1 S i 4. " • ' .k ' C - h r 4tglii " - .ie that.the 7 p,ecV„tgp, Osilt 4 person giver* met , .fai a - seat were .__ ou„ tt:w tO, are.. AO . 1 1 0: 4 4fficted s AP -.4l44c.awsnisti4.4ldier of " aothoriigiltit 141fii i - ppliietilirty after their awl' i -Itcp.. • e :rutlei~an appeared to lid; to r and gin t gig', ; 'ti i me fwboritiOkra• ogl , ,u)l.:the. 6l t 5, ititi4o9l4 . vci t ittApor cif 611 i.; i4AINZIWIY. 4 S • Vi4P . 41 0 "" ttr il: -13.C t e t ,ts,th, 1 1 00 4 49 f Laka,04: 1 ;.4 1 21i0 01 .W9F64 - * g f -F 444.1-421”.!•411** S . rsy ~X • l•