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p pos,!er l peeessary to isetninindered here as they were In Courts of . Justice. Mr.i Pitt's talents and influenre Were nothing, unless it could be At-ern that he had , ienproxed the condition of SOciety--(lfear, hear.) - Mr. CANNING here explained. • Sir FRANCIS tuttDETT (roused up by Mr. CannOg) asserted that he never felt any personal ani . - inosity to Mr. Pitt, but solely to his measures; stiil he *gust Imaintain thas his qualifications were those for debate only. All arguments drawn from precedents appeared to hioi inconclusive. (Question. Question.) The proposition to make the Queen a King. and to reduce the flrince of Wales' to nothing, was a proposition too monstrcius to be entertained- While they had a fair House of Commons, 'the people ought also tG possess a strong Tzecutive Govern s:amt. The times called for this. If they looked at the map cA Europe, they would see the necessity for unanimity and energy. (Quesiioa.) Thy calanti ties of Europe were written in its blood. . ' Mr. PONSONBY expressed - much reluctance to 'retract the discussion, his primary object being to ilo away certain misrepresentations. Good GOD i . i liras it now necessary to review the characters of politicians who had been dead four years ago ? (Hear.. hear.) Respecting Mr. Fox he would say, that it any man, aiming to be his scholar, reviled and '. ,abused others, he did not resemble him, who was free from all envy and malignity even respecting his rival. He 1;40, indeed, that there would be no repetition , of ' ,mate itarroth on either side. Mr. CANNING here said, that his chief object was to obtah the disavowal, as to Mr. Pitt, which i liad been made by Mr. Ponsonby. 4 ' Mi. WHITBREAD asked what was the nature of the disavowal alluded to ? when he was inter ,• fupted by repeated and incessant cries of Question. The House now divided—For the. Amendment, Vl7-41 1 ,:gainst it 211,Majority against Ministers 3. While strangers were excluded, we understood the CHANCELLOR of the Exentquen declared—lf the de sisioaof the House should be against the amendment, he should move to adjourn the debate upon the re. staining Resolutions, and his own amendment, till this day. If otherwise, he should not press his amend went. The House then adjourned at ahyr pan THREE this dAi• . RENCH P4P4TR!S. DOCUMENT; fttLATINO TO NI kTICNS WITH ;NOLAND. relating IQ the negociations with the Prussian war have been already last of these publications, in Octo relating to the negociation open- Yarmonth, and afterwards Con off by Lord Lauderdale. But containing only the official note; .ween the respective Plenipotentiaries, explained the circumstances which tare. the account of the two last con , the French and English Plenipo was sent at the time tp the Minister , who had then left Paris in his will best attain this object. It will England had it in her power to ,ith Prussia, and that she would was in vain that the result of that increase of power which it must France, - were announced to her The •Zriglish Government would she might have preserved Hol manner. It will be seen in the do- Litton, which the Dutch Ministers open with the British Government, preferred the continuation of the war :prudence of Holland, as she preferred it Prussia. been placed in the great antra . occupies, solely by the obstinacy of prolonging this war, which she declares Every epoch at which she has proved France an epoch of of Osier.. TIONS OF LORD LAUDERDALTL. the Account given to the Minister for Fcs. by the French Plenipotentiary. " Paris, September IC 1804. • , • ov • • • ee • in consequence of the authority given Majesty the Emperor, declared to Lord it a peace, speedily signed and ratified, be. operations had proceeded to a certain length, their progress ; and that he was in Ind to inalte England the high cha. teator of the Continent ; a character hecanse England would acquire by ving saved a power with whom she aquall „ but whose preservation is prescri bed •to 'her' by her interest. Lord Lauderdale ap retired sensible pf the grandeur of this proposition, and of the great advantage that it would be to his country, I added, that nota moment was to be lost ;; that if once the war began, both sides must run the chances it and that neither he nor I could foresee vil!ithea- the fortune of France, and the genius of her ilader ;night carry our arms, our influence, and our - reflected upon this declaration, and memory my answer respecting the toning Dalmatia, Lord Lauderdale t he would send a messenger vo his equested a second conference. conference took place to-day at two auderdale had received a messenger brought him an account of the new' Ministry, and instructions re. negotiation. My Lord appeared snore • ever in the propositions which he itnd in his determination of de )a%sports ; he brought to my recollec- . which I hal node to him respecting arresting bye pact the march of the it was ready to begin the caviirign. asked for that,;' said he, "in the government, which you had declared to ' orders to that effect : but I must, render this justice to the French it wit 4 it which iioluntar4i ;lade 1 eopopi. to this dap . . . FR.E. . : FOLLICTION OP DOC GOCIATIC The documents el -*nglattd Wm" the , lolished. The last ' s., 1808, was that • iliclai Pails by Lord „ stoned and hroken f, 1148 publication, co - haterehanged betweei has not snfficiently e: produced the rupture ' The extract g thi feret i ci . 4eiween thi tentiarim, which.was for Fiireign Affairs, Majesty's suite s will °, be 'there seen that prevent the war witl . toot ; 41114 that it was f:.; campaign, and the i • iecesentily give to I Plenipotentiary. ..T1 sun FUrisk of it. ' ) ..Your yelri later 'II land in the same mai currents of a negoci; endeavoured to opet Ow England prefers to the indeppndence ( to the seefety of Pruss France, then, has Lion which she occu England in prolongir must be perpetual. 1 selected peace, has • glory, and increase o I.—NEON:Ian NO. I.—.Exttact from the . . ret fZirs by ', .i . V SIR, • • ft I • * • • •. In con to me by his Majesty La * uderctiik that a flea i fir/ the r ilitary ofteratio coulinpoafdiate;y +t% to J.. i situation ituation to fill, and i raper. of Pacificator 6 9 mo t e vaulted, hers it the merit of having is acrqnlly 4t war, ba bed •to 'her by her i $, 4r ~ • After bavmg relit r:Qalling to his mer impossibility of restm informed ipe, that h Courti and he. reque :j is ,ecbnd coat 6%194. I,ord Saudfrom I.c,pd6i, who I form ition of the nev lacing tp 04e negocia ‘,,, persevering limn evi had before made, :I '.., rnak-,,fing his pa%spo tic: - . the deelarattoes w the - in . : J . o 'l l ;o4 of a French army, whys it ' I w,,a,:d have ask sue. ; of my governr ine ; I had received botwithstanding, rei goirernmeat, that it 'i,4' Li.. deciaration.'i „..,. theJg e...__ same Ist invasion. (1) - tbe netioeietton ef Laird Leaderdne, No. 1. of Zealand by the Male _ , adding such.other condi ? (e) Wide the documents relating td the mgoelation ant; the Lions as the said GovernMent may ship it its duty tis peace of That. - insist upon before, according to the proposed measure" (a) wee tee documents relating to the negoclation after the Interview at Erfurth. for the purpose of having sure data before making' ' (4) vide the &lemmata, intituten" Ti. Peateneerv - tee Dtrick kOnXrn to it the iptentipns of the French'Government. Administration." • 66 Whatever may be the answer of the English Go. (An the Documents preceding what follow, have formerly ap- vernment to his representations, provided it do not peered in the English papers. They relate to the overtures which exclude all hopes of attaining the object proposed, were made to this country after the pace of Task, and the tn- and that circumstances permit him, he will provi teretew of Ertura) sionally prolong his stay in London ; and ie the mean '"it WINGS OF TM! DuTcll HINiSTAY WITH THE time, he will transmit to the undersigned, as speedily ~ INGLIiH GOVERNMENT. as possible, and by the safest channel, a detailed ne; , No. I.—The King to hid Ministers. cit,nl of all his proceedings, of the answers which km " Gentlemen—For the six months that I have been made to him, and of every thing that concerns his pith the Emperor, my brother, I have been constantly m i ss i on . . occupied with the affairs of the kingdom. If I have n However, if, after having received an answer tie I been able to efface some unfavourable impressions, or the overtures made by him, he may find it ne '., itt least to modify them ; I must acknowledge that I for the success of the cause, to convey it himself to the kw not succeeded in reconciling in his mind, the ex- ! knowledge of his Majesty, he shall be at liberty to do istencts and independence of the kingdom, with the ; so ; but in that case, even though his Majesty may success and 'prosperity of the Continental system; O still be at Paris, he shall take his journey by way of and in particular, that pr France against England. o ti e o t ll7 ,filrolni E nnd n sh g a l l a i n b d y . no means repair to France di- I -am assured that France is firmly resolved to annex .redly Holland, in spite of all considerations ; and that she i "In fine, the strictest secrecy is recommended to is convinced that its independence can no lor_iger be hi m i n t hi s w h o l e affair, as well as the greatest pen prolonged, if the maritime war continues. M this dente and discretion in the execution of the commis cruel certainty, there no longer remains to us but one sign entrusted to him. (Signed) hope, which is, that a maritime peace be negotiated : 64 VANDER gnat that alone can avert the danger' which threatens us ; 66 .I.H. atcuzesins. ' and without the success of these ne ociations, it is •' Amsterdam, February 1,1810." certain, that the independence of Holland ie no 14 ' • o. W.—Translation of a Note to a Verbs@ Consmunicutioa more ; that no sacrifice can prevent the blow. It is from Marquis Wellesley to M. Laboucbere,l2th February, thus the clear and formal intention of France to sa- 1810. crifice every thing in order to acquire Holland; and 1 " The unfortunate situation of Holland has long so to augment, whatever it may cost her, her means , excited sentiments of compassion in this country,o for opposing England. Doubtless, England will , which sentiments naturally increase with every ag have every thing to fear from such an augmentation ' gravation of the misfortunes to which she is sub) ct ; of her coasts and marine on the part of France. It is but Holland has no right to expect that this country therefore possible that their own interest may induce will sacrifice her interests and her honour. the English to ward cif a blow'which may prove sq The nature of the communication received from fatal to them. - M. Labouchere will hardly admit of the slightest t' I commit to you the care of developing this idea! observation respecting a general peace. It even does with all the energy which may be necessary to make not call upon England to repeat those sentiments the English Government feel the importance of the o which her Government has so often expressed on this measure which it remain's for it to take—impress upon snbject. It may, however, he remarked, that the it all the arguments and all the considerations which i French Government has not expressed the slightest shall present themselves to your minds-o-adopt this symptom of a disposition to make peace, or to abate priaceeding of yourselves, without my name being at in the smallest degree those pretensions which have all mentioned in it. But there is no time to be lost ; hitherto rendered ineffectual the inclination of the !Pend immediately some trusty and discreet corn- English Government to put an and to the war. mercial gentleman to England, and inform me of the 1 66 The same observation is applicable to the war, result on his return. Let me know the period when I which the French government carries on against that may be ; for we have no time to lose : there re- trade; a war in which it has been the aggressor, and main to us only a few days. Two corps of the grand which it maintains with unceasing rancour. M. La. army are on their march to Holland; Marshal On- : botichere is mistaken in the note delivered by him, divot has just set out to take the command of them, when he asserts, that the English - Orders in Council Let me know what you have done in pursuance of have given rise to the French Decrees against neutral this letter,. and cn what day I may have an answer navigation. The Orders in Council were not the from England." . ' motives, but the consequence of the French decrees. No. 11.—Instructions given by the Dutch Ministry to M. The French decrees °are still in full force ; there have • LADOMIERE. been no measures takenfor repealing them. It is not 66 The object of the commission with which, by , reasonable to expect, that we shall in the smallest orders of the undersigned, M. Pierre Cesar Labou- degree relax the personal measure; of protection there is entrusted, is to make known to the English , which our safety att acks , a which may defend n,s Government, that, in consequence of information ; from the enemy's attacks, because he suffers, in con which has reached the Dutch Ministers, and sm i th sequence of the measures he has adopted, and which has every appearance of authenticity, the destiny o f he c h ews no inclination to depart fr om. - Holland, that is, the maintenance or.theloss of herpoli- No ,tiptatt re. tical existence, depends on the dispositions entertained No. IV—Report of Proceedings by My. LASOUCIIIR IL on the part of the English Government, with respect “ 1.014011, 12th February, 1810. to arriving at a speedy peace with France; or at least " The undersigned having received from their with respect to the making of a real change ip the i Excellencies orders to proceed to England with Writ _ - aboe - - Or - FOreigi? AfFitirs.) Vlde hinj pn the fOnting English. before the lei Pi n measures adopted by the )ve Government, in rela- ' tion to the commerce and navigation of neutrals. The said Sieur Labouchere must, in consequence, repair with all convenient speed to London, where, in the manner and way whiCh he shall find most suit able, he shall seek to communicate the above state of things to the knowledge of the English Ministry, and of every other person who may be able to promote the object in view • and he shall be permitted to make known, known, that he fills this mission with the consent of I the Dutch Government, who, in consequence of the 'authenticity of the above information, bearing that, without the above change in the system of England, tbe loss of the independence of Holland is absolutely ! inevitable, have thought proper to shut their eyes upon all considerations and difficulties, to attempt! every thing that may serve to maintain tke political existence of the country. .t ‘, He will then endeavour to impress upon the English Government, how much it would be for the advantage of England that Holland should not fall ! under the sovereign dominion of the French empire, ' but remain always an independent Power. To prove this. assertion, he will use all the arguments with which the business itself can furnish him, and which shall occur to hini. 64 If he find this conviction in the English Govern-1 ment, or shall find means to inspire it, he will endea your to engage it to contribute CO the m tintenance of the political independence of this country, and in promptly applying himself to negotiations tending to attain a general peace; or at least, in case such nego ciations could not be promptly adopted an 4 corn- ! menced, in giving satisfactory assurances of its inten, tion to make some changes in the system adopted by the British Orders in Council of November, 1807, and in the measures which have resulted from them. 64 Above all, he must urge this latter object, for; the purpose, he will say, of making opposition to the eagerness of France to occupy Holland. He will add, that in case either a relaxation or a change of the I above system shall be adopted, we may flatter our-'; selves-, that besides the non-occupation of Holland, ; the war, as long as it may continue, will assume anew an aspect and a course less disa# . won: than it has done for these three years and that there will result a lit tle more probability of nn accommodation, inasmuch as then the Emperor of the French will have no mo tive to maintain the Decrees 'of Berlin and of Milan, which his Imperial Majesty has only adopted in con- ' sequence of the British'Orders in Council of Novem. bee, 1807. . 46 If, however, the English povernment, after having listened to these hints, raises difficulties about giving any definitive explanation, befdre being posi tively informed of the intentions of the French Go vernment on the subject ; it will he his duty to de mand, that the English Government declare, whether it chooses to make its resolution to arrive at neFocia tions for peace, or at least to make a change' to the 4aid ©alai in Council' depe‘d ou the above 4 s ' • tea instructions, prescribing the means that he was to pursue to communicate to the English Govern ment the situation of Holland, and to impart to it the means the most probable of averting the fate which menaced that country, proceeded to the Brill. He arrived there on the 2d of February, sailed from thence on the following day, and landed at Yarmouth on the sth, in the evening, from whence he proceeded for London, where he arrived on the afternoon of the 6th. On the morning of the 7th, he requested an audience of Marquis Wellesley, Minister of the Foreign Department, which was given him at half-past five the same evening. After having com municated to his Excellency the substance of his in structions, and fully discussed the main point, he took his leave of this Minister., with an assurance on the part of the latter, that he would lay his,communica tions before the Council, and acquaint him with their determination. " Having received no message from his Excellency until the I I th, the Undersigned wrote a few lines to t his Excellency, requesting him to give him some idea of the disposition of the English Government. He I received in answer an invitation for nine the same evening, when he received the unsigned official com munication, a copy of which is annexe& In this new conference a conversation took place respecting the probability, under any circumstances,' that these overtures, whatever the decision of the Eng lish Government might be, would produce any senti ment of approximation on the part of France ; anal above all the inconsistency op the part of England, to admit the principle, that having once resolved on re prisals, as the . Minister called them, the latter should' Of s necessity cease with the causes that produced them. 44 It appears that the English Ministry attach very , great weiggh and consequence to these same Orders an council,"‘vhich were the immediate object of the proceeding of the Government of Hol and, and which, whether Frante agreed or not, the English 1 Administration were persuaded afforded the most effectual means of enfeebling the resources of Frnee. I n fact these measures appeared to form the principal' grounds of the system mpon which the Government rested their principles and conduct, and it seemed that so long as the war lasted, it was only from al change of Ministers that other immures and views might be expected. • 44 The Minister also considered that, while, on one ' side, it was extremely uncertain whether any declara tion or concession on his part would produce an' teration for the better, it would. on the other, be im possilple•to depend on Their permanency ; and that, in all cases, every proceeding which'ippeared incompa tible with his honour and dignity. would on that very account be rejected, although it should appear to square syith his interest, 64 • The undersigned endeavoured to convince the Minister, that in this particular instance, the general interest s well understood, and 'the lasting prosperity of - tfemaincial sure irkperiously revired, tlAt lbw ,•. c'at cp-operate to divert Me storm, He even confined himself only to the demand of a conditional declara- Ition ; but the result which he transmit; is the only onn ' . he could obtain. His general observation, and the information he was able to obtain, lead to the follow. ng conclusions •; " That the main question of peace or war engages little of the public attention ; that they ate reconciled by habit to the continuance of the war, and that its consequences, far front being fek at present, are rather. favourable to private interest. That the system of commercial restrictions is in. herent in the present Ministry, and for the same rea son is condemned by the Opposition ; that it is there lore likely that for the present these restrictions wilt be enforced, in a greater or lesser degree, as well; against America as other Powers. 44 That the English Ministry look upon a firm ad herence to this system as the most effectual m eans of. seriously affecting the resources of France, and opposing her her system of influence on the Continent ; and that all attempts on the part of hostile nations to make them think otherwise, will only produce a con trary effect. T4at it must not, however, be inferred, that a settled resolution has beet; taken to reject all propo. sals for peace; that Probably they imagine it is the means of more speedily inducing France to seriously consider of some mode of approzimattna ; that, pro. bably, if the latter shewed any inclination of this kind. they would afford many facilities ; but rather than this should rest upon a Conviction, that at this instant the French Government had no serious thoeskts of peace which could be accommodated to the principles avowed by t)ie English Government, and that she is solely occupied in prosecuting . her plans upon Spain and Portugal, which disposition would always be at serious obstacle to the success of any negotiations which might be commenced. " That under all the considerations of the time; those which relate to Holland were only of a se condary and very remote interest, and that the con. viction of the 'impossibility that any Convention re specting that Country could ever, under the influence of France, offer any chance of security to England, sinless it wat connected with a general arrangement, has blunted all that feeling which Holland would otherwise have inspired ; so far, indeed, as not to draw any attention to the very important motives, vihich should induee them to consider this question separately and under an immediate point of view. " The undersigned, perceiving in thi; state o f things no chance for success in any ulterior proceed ings which the Dutch Government might be.disposed to adopt, unless such proceedings were specially au thorized by France, and that, therefore, with respect to that country, its fate entirely depends upon the question of general peace, he thinks that, conformably, with his instructions, he ought no longer to uselessly prolong his residence in this country. therefore, proposes to embark in a few days, t and on his arrival he will have the honour to present ° himself to their Excellencies the Ministers, and give them verbally a further and detailed accognt of every thing relating the to mission he was sent upon, an 4 which he endeavoured to fulfil with all the zeal an anxiety with which the importance of the subject muse necessarily have inspired him. He requests, in thg mean time, that your Excellencies will rneeive the ItaT nee of his respect. (Signed) LASOUCHZILV DUMFRIES, ZIECEAMER Friday last, the Funeral of the late Romano. JAcgs t sow, Esq. Provost of this burgh, took place, and was conducted in*manner the most solemn and affecting a agreeably to a plan directed by thie Magistrates. Besides a number of Gentlemen who asseratied is the deceased's house, a numerous company, includ e ing the Magistrates and Council, the Convener and Deacons of the Incorporations, the Ministers and Kirk-session, the Masters of the public Schools, and the Directors of the Hospital, mat in the King'sArtns f by invitation of the Magistrates.l The Incorporattoue met in their Hall, where they were afterward: joined by the Convener and Deacons; and at 12 o 'o*k (a great body of the respectable inhabitants having also assembled) the procession proceeded in the foi' lowing order The Constables. The Burgh °facets, carrying the halberts, reversed ail esteetnE , with crspe. THE 'BODY. With the Staff of Office laid upon the Cease The Hearse drawn by fore heels. The Relations of the deceased. The Magistrates. The Merchant cauneolots, U; sod sir;. ' The Town Clerks. The Ministers in their Gowns and Bomb. The Kirk-session, six and six. The Precentors in their Covens. The Masters of the Public Schools. The Directors of the Hospital, six and six. The Convener cid Deacons of the latorperaciens. 'The Incorporated Trades, ale 10 •14. The inhabitants at large, six and The bells of both churches were tolledfrom eleven to one o'clock, and the shops were spontaneously shut; which strongly marked the affection and respect is which the deceased was held by his fellow-cittiens. The procession returned in the same order, andevery thing was conducted with the greatest decorum and splemnity. As a farther testimony of respect, the Magistrates, Vouncil; and Incorporations ' assembled in their res, pective Halls on Squday, and walked in procession to St. Michael's Church, **here a most appropriate and impressive discourse was preached by the Rev. Dr. Scorn, whd, towards the close, paid a just and af fecting tribute to the character of this much regretted, Nfaicistrate. P - V t. i Os the Slit oh. at Stoke Church, Plymouth-Deck, Rowland biabwariag. EM. Navy, to Sophia Henrtztta, only child of spa Iwo Major Dar, of its Majesty'; Slab Regiment of Foot, sad dmighterls-law et captain Tobin, of his Ntajeafe ship librlemmia Marlette_ DIED. On the g.itb nl. at Vestal Lodp, In Pambridgeshire, at an advanced age, Mrs. Luck, 'relizt of• George Rack, Esq. of Sarin.: • • comb, in Wardsbite. Kingikikos kilionittit, oo •the 14th alt. Goland Duncan M514011416e. d airecia. W tie 74th 'fear 4 hi, ate. mach awl deserve4y repefasit big Ms nistngrop friends and acquaintances. Hik linty soft Urbana et Mew from Portugal, only a few days ptevientiolds datiktad had the melancholy Satisfaction of pay. irq die /wood drag 'Mo ku maid puma. LONDCas4 published by LEVEL KENT, at ti: Palt,Of and Nig ga SWANN, 5..: I