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1 • i • I~ ) • is • r‘ I h. , • . • • t • PAELIAMENTARY PROCEEDING& .4 f ~ 1 ~ ' r " ~I 1 ~I N~~ ;. ~ ~; • ~ f X t . • R `: . HOUSE OF LOWS, DECEMBER 5. IMPARLING AND TRAVERSING. The LORD CHANCELLOR, on moving the second, rea.iing of his Bill for prexentin* delay in the administration of justice, in cases of misdemean our, entered into some explanation of the object of tbs. Bill, nearly similar to what his Lordship stated. on introducing it, shewing the bearing of the dif ferent clauses of it ; the general summary being to take away the right of Imparling to Informanops tiled, or Indictments found in the Court of King's Bench, or removed there ; and the right of what was called traversing at Sessions and other Courts, or in other words, putting off the trial after pleading till the ensuing Sessions,. and compelling the parties to plead within a certain 'somber of days in the King's Bench, after information filed, or indictment found, and go to trial; and at Sessions, compelling them, if under bail, to plead and be tried at the same Ses sions at which the indictment is found ; or if not upon bail, to plead and try at the ensuing Sessions. In every case the Court to have a discretionary power to grant further time according to circum stances; and in all cases the defendant to have the same facilities as the prosecutor to obtain a certiorari before indictment found at any Sessions to remove it into the Court of King's Bench. With regard to what had been said as to the granting a copy of in formation or indictment at the public expense, he was perfectly ready to accede to a proposition of that na ture, and he would state his view of the subject in the Bill ; but it must be obvious that that House was not the place to originate any question of expense. His Lordship concluded by again declaring that no recent circumstances had induced him to bring for ward this Bill, but that it was previously in his con templation, as a measure which the great delays in the trials of misdemeanours, arising from the present state of the law, imperiously required. The Earl GROSVENOR, with reference to the measures proposed by Ministers, of which this formed a part, observed, that the inquiry (for which he had voted) into the state of the country having been refused, he was not now so much indisposed towards these measures as he should have been had that inquiry been granted. The refusal of the in quiry tended, in his opinion, to aggravate the dis content's which existed, and thus to render necessary the strong measures which were now proposed. He trusted, however, that their Lordships would not al low this Bill, which went to take away an import ant right flom the subject, to be lead a second time without the fullest consideration, nor was he dis posed to accede to it without some better evidence of its neces•ii y. Lord ERSKINE said, if the object of the Bill had been to give greater security to an individual ac cused, he should have been disposed to give it his support, but he could not vote for a Bill which went to take away from a defendant that security with which the ancient law of the land had shielded him. . In many cases, in charges, for instance, of sedition, conspiracy, and others, it would be impossible, within the time allowed by this Bill, for the defendants' le gal advisers to arrange the evidence necessary for their defence, or in any way to secure the means of their defence. True there was a provision, leaving it to the discretion of the Court to grant further time, but it was well known the Court would only accede to delay on an affidavit made of the absence of a material witness ; and if' this hill passed into a law, them would not be time even for the parties to ascer tain what witnesses they ought to call for the pur poses of their defence. His Noble and Learned kriend had said, that this Bill was brought forward without reference to recent circumstances, and there could be no doubt of his Noble and Learned Friend's veracity ; but undoubtedly the Bill came in very sus picious company ; and when they were called upon to pass so many measure; obnoxious to the Constitu tion, it behoved thern'to look with a very jealous eye at one which, like the present, made so material an innovation in the ancient law of the land. His Lord ship here went into some detail respecting the case of an individual tried some years since for high nest ' son, in attempting the life of the King, in which he was assigned as Counsel for the prisoner, to shew the superior excellence of the British laws with regard to trials for high treason, they having for their object that the prisoner should be brought to trial, freed as far as possible from the operation of any prejudice that might be raised against him. Applying this argument to cases of misdemeanour affected by this Bill, he observed, that the Bill in its effect might tend to hurry on the trial of persons under cir cumstances in which prejudices might be operating against, them in the most unfavourable manner.— , But if it was persisted in to make this innovation in the ancient law of the land, why not innovate equally iu favour of the defendant, as well as infavour of the prosecutor ? Instead of this, the Bill would forte the defendant on to trial, frequently under the most un favourable circumstances; whilst the Attorney-Gene ral, who possessed the most grinding power of any. Officer in the country, might file informations. and keep them hanging over the heads of individualist without its being possible for them to force him on to trial. In other cases, where the Crown was not the immediate prosecutor, the defendant might carry down the record, and' thus force on a triid; but in the cases of informations filed by the Attorney-Ge neral, the defendant could not carry down the record without a warrant from that Officer. Why not then, if there must be an innovation, take away the power of the Attorney-General to keep a defendant-indefi nitely in suspense, as well as the power of the defen dant to postpone his trial ? Viewing, as he did, this Bill 26 part of a system, and coupled with the other measures which had been proposed, it was impossible for him to give it his concurrence. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he eras as little disposed to innovation in the ancient law of the land as the Noble and Learned Lord who had just spoken ; nay, he went further, for he wonlchrot morale even if the law or practice sought to be al+ tered was theoretically absurd, unless it was amply proved that it was practically unjust. As to the Bill before the House, he was not qualified to argue it from the want of the requisite legal knowledge • but as to the practical effect of the law stood, he bad not the slightest doubt of' the ne ty of the present Bill. Was it possible, indeed, my man to doubt upon the subject ; who had at. ' - prove bel techn li +t+ 1.• know as it cessit r . for ai tended to what had been tr:n on for some time Brit? E ery one had witn the continual sup cession okblasphemous and "editions libels-.of works, written in defiance of all religion, of all decency and good manners' and settingat nought every principle of suboidinatibn. If the circulation of such pernici ous puhlicationx was not checked, it was utterly im possibre that society could exist in this country, with out the greatest deterioration ; and he had no hesita tion in saying, that great as was the evil arising from riotous and seditious Meet in g s, he considered the evil arising from these publications as infinitely greater, addressed as they were, to the passions, the feelings. and the prejudices of the lowest and most illiterate class of mankind, and calculated to keep up amongst them a continual fermt. That it was impossible to check the continual current of these publications without the aid of the present Bill, must be evident to the House, when be stated, that out of all the in formations filed within the two last years, it had bees only possible to bring one individual to trial. As to the objection with regard to the power of the At torney General, he could only say, that if any prac tical evil was proved to hays& arisen from it, he was perfectly ready to agree in remedying that eviL The Attorney General, let it be recollected, was a re sponsible Officer, responsible to Parliament, as , well as to the Crown, and thus answerable for the exercise of the power entrusted to him. But when all the complaint was, that the Attorney General had not prosecuted enough, and when the ,sole complaint against all Attorney Generals within his recollection, was, that they had not sufficiently exercised the power of their office, in instituting prosecutions, he could not see that there was any abuse in that species of conduct, that called for a Legislative remedy ; let a practical evil be proved to exist, and he should be perfectly ready to meet it by a proper and: effi cient remedy. Lord HOLLAND expressed his surprise at the •speech of the-Noble Earl, which appeared to him to throw a slur on the Noble and Learned Lord, which would not have been considered quite civil, ifit had proceeded from that side of the House. The Noble Earl had also expressed himself as if the ancient laws and Constitution of the country were, if not absurd in principle, at least inconvenient in practice. The Noble Earl admitted, that when a change was about to be made, a ground of necessity should be made out to justify the change. But his Noble Friend, on the Woolsack, had made out no ground whatsoever ; and, therefore, was fairly exposed to the severe re buke he received. But, with regard to the Noble Earl's principle of altering the ancient laws and Con ition of the country, on a case being made out, StitM _ Y, os I,g what more could the Radicals contend for.? Those, laws, it should be recollected, were subject to the ;consideration of individuals as distinguished for ta lents and information as any in existence at the pre lent day. They were considered at the period of Are Revolution, among others, by no less a man than. 'Lord Somers, who, after taking the opinion of Lord' Hale, contended that indictment was the best and safest mode of proceeding. Such was the spirit which, existed in those times. But the Noble Earl, after dispatching the laws and Constitution, bag and baggage, came at length to assign his reason, for .the passing of the Bill—(Cries of hear, hear, hear). And here he had begged the question all along. Al luding to the blasphemous publications, he had asked, could it be reasonable that they should be permitted to go on? The answer was no; for the Um are sufficient to suppress them. Even in the case of an individual who had been tried and con demned before for the same offence, the law was l adequate to measure his punishment, for the Judge had the power to consider that fact, and to deal with it as an aggravation. But the most curious . feature in the debate was, that the two Noble Lords differed.as to the ground of necessity by which the ..Bill was justified. The Noble Lord on the Woolsack, it was true, did not condescend to state his specific grounds, but then he had let them into one . fact, which was sufficient to establish the difference.;—he had said that be had the Bill a long time under his consideration, and did not propose it now to meet the demands of the present alarming' crisis. -On the contrary, the Noble Earl said that ft w4s no such `thing—that the blasphemous libels bad rendered its introduction necessary, and upon that ground alone had challenged the concurrence of their Lordships-- (Hear!) —But what was the general inference from the whole of the reasoning on the other side ? That we were now living 125 years under a Constitution which, according to their account, provided no ade quate punishment for the cases which the Bill was. intended to meet. The Noble Earl .had informed them, that es-afficia informations were conducted by responsible Officers. Of course they were. Our Constitution knew of none but responsible Officers.— He had stated further, that if a case of abuse could be made out, a ground might be laid for an altera tion of the law in that respect. But did the Noble Earl forget a motion Which he (Lord Holland) had submitted to the House six or seven years ago, not to take away the power itself, though he w • that he could do it—not to chargethe then Attorne*. General with any corrupt abuse, but to obtain pen. mission to prove, by evidence at the Bar of. that House, that es-officio informations had increased in the proportion of twenty to one beyond any other mode of proceeding, and that out of twenty informations that were filed, not above two or three were prosecuted: Upon that occasion he recollected being told by this Noble Earl, that if they were to remove that sin stone from the edifice, no one could tell what the consequences might be ; that though the abuse could not be defended. it was expedient to stick by the an cient law. But here there was another ancient law for the protection of the people against the power of the Crown, and the necessity of sucking by the old Constitution was forgotten. When he had Ara heard the Bill described as one to prevent unnecessary de lay in the administration of justice in cases of misde meanour, he expected that it would have been di rected against delays on the part of the Crown, as well as on the part of the accused, either being as injury to the Public. But now he found that it was I to operate only upon one'side, leaving to the other all the advantages which it possessed before. His I Lordship then entered at length into an examination of the present practice, and maintained that the Bill before the House was one of the most clumsy and un intelligible specimen:of legislation that had ever come under his notice. Nothing could have delighted the 164 Lord Stanhope more than where bad such a Tazi without any design against the Government, , hc: , heve no protection against the breaking open of thought that it formed an it n NhtE t . o the Bill. It was most unfit' subject for the exercise of Ms lni trec cat t a a reri seh rit od. Bill commenced by stating a d ho Lo ase rd in oE t b h ßje e sc n icti i o g i th wa et s t u p ue roc , proceeded to aff eenrdactn:bremat,ey forif a man could be found to swear, that he, the informer , a Pera man b)e 's house should be entered at believed that such and such weapons were in it, ' Noble. and Learned Lord himself had thth L e M staftilleavi i i tted Th e it t s midnight heci, were kept for purposes "dangerous to the pt._ imperfection in acknowledging that the preamble re quired alteration, and that the enactments - should be pas _ peace." It was said, that mfg ms were improped revised. and corrected in the Committee. The im propriety and injustice of taking from the accused sinus ; but after a man bad been dragged out party the right of postponing trial, as he now reseed it, was strongly illustrated by an anecdote he seized , an appeal might be to the Q uarter , bed (if, indeed, any man would vent had heard of the great LordShaftttsbury, the Author after the passingvent ure to go to been deprived of a pike-head, of the value of sixpen ce , of the Characteristics. His Lordship, while a Mem of this Bill)—(Laughter) —and . it would cost him a whole suit of armour to , • her of the House of Commons, introduced a Bill, the back again ! All these things tended to increase ,object of which was to grant to persons accused of distrust and irritation in the manufacturing distrii high treason, and even of felony, the benefit of em- ploying Counsel. In the course of his speech, he be and if people were disposed to emigrate, he say came so confused, that his memory failed him. After choice between London and Constantinople, • a momentary pause, he made this strong appeal, ad the preference were in favour of the latter. In dressing himself to he Speaker—" Sir, if I, who am don we once had the best,laws, which were gri only arguing an abstract question, am so embarrassed ally changed for the worst ; and in Constantine as to forget the reasoning by which it was my inten the worst awe, in which no alteration could be tion to have supported it, will you not grant to a man, in the situation of being tried for his life, some bur for the better —( Hear, hear). assistance to protect him against such an accident r —(Har, hear). So he might say of the present Lord HOLLAND inquired if, in the first , Bill. Would they, by passing it, take from the ac- there was any objection to insert " two Magisti cused that power of delay, which might be necessary instead of " a Magistrate?" He did not wish tc to his proper defence? Whatever the evils of the this amendment, but at all events the word "cl present practice might be, the Noble Lord was bound had been omitted among the weapons, as it hac to shew that there was no other remedy. But the stated, a g ood many were " laying about late!) Noble Earl had shewn the contrary, a few nights Lord SIDMOUTH said that the word "gun' ago, for on arguing that the Assizes ought to be held to be found in the Bill. more frequently, he had pointed out a more easy and ' Lord HOLLAND objected strongly to its inserticn, constitutional. remedy. In cases of ex-qfficio tailor- Admitting that an evil prevailed, it did nut ' mation, the accused was at the mercy of the Attor- that this Bill was a proper remedy ; it might ney General, as to whether he should be tried or not, end even to some of the sports cf the fieli and there were at this moment, more than forty pro- though people in the country loved the Constit - very well, they often loved the favour of an . secutions hanging over the heads of different indi viduals, for nine or ten years back. To omit the nistration quite as dearly, and might give i..form,.. correction of such a grievance, in a Bill of this nation to answer any but useful purposes. tare, was monstrous. A great part of the evils now The question was then put on the Amens' complained of, arose from the growing distrust of the and it was'negative.i. People in the Parliament. The present Bill was cal- Lord DARNLEY persevered in his Amens culated to shake their confidence more ; and if any for omitting the words " or by night," but the one could have a wish to add to the alienation of the tion being put, it was rejected. public mind, they could not succeed more effectually The House then resumed, and it was orders, than by going on with enactments entirely on one the Report should be received on Monday. side of the question. If, when the Bill came out of DRILLING SILL. the Committee, it was so raodified,.as to check delay The House went into a Committee on the._ upon all occasions; he might say content to its pro- Bill. Several verbal Amendments were adopted. Visions, but as it stood at present, he felt it his duty The Report was then agreed to, and ordered to oppose it in this stage. received on Monday. Lord LlLFORD'began, by making some remarks ALARMING 'TAT' 05 THE COUNTRY. respecting the apprehensions which the Noble Lord Earl STRATHMORE took the opportut (Holland) seemed . to entertain, of giving too great stating, that having heard that the statement I an influence to the Crown, and those which the other last ni ght was doubted in another place (alit. Noble. Lord (Liverpool) held, with respect to the ab- the speech of Mr. Lambton), he then repeat( solute predominance of the People. For his own part; same facts, with the full assurance that they he was equally jealous of the absolute authority of both: well founded.: he would go further, and say, " Justum et tenet= propositi strum the statement, instead , of exceeding the bound , " Non civium ardor prava Jubentiuni, short of the actual state of the country. He " Non vultus instantis tyrauni, " Mente quatit nada." appeal to the Noble Duke (Northumberl.o The Noble and LearriedLord, when he first proposed Lord Lieutenant of the next County, whom this Bill to the House, had told them that it was net in his place, for a confirmation of his statement suggested by the exigencies of the present time; and felt it his duty to have made the explanation. he (Lord Litfurd) was much pleased to hear that de- sincerely hoped the measures now before the " claration. There was no doubt that the subjects of would meet the evil. Not a moment sled( the realm had reason to complain of Legislative in putting them into execution, and most should he be to fend that they effected their enactments, made to meet temporary exigencies. • without having recourse to more vigorous measures. When he looked over the Statute Book, he found the laws enacted for temporary purposes extremely nu- There was not a man in the House more un - "'' merous. In his view of the case, experience :hewed to restrict or to suspend the Constitutional lii the People without the necessity. not only what was true, but also what was expedient. The Duke of NORTHUMBERLAND eau - Was it or was it not true, that by the present practice a long interval elapsed between indictment and trial, fully assured that the statement of the Nob) during which, many innocent persons were compelled was correct. According to the best inform , to stand in the situation of criminals; whilst others, he received, he learnt, that of the Colliers who were not only criminals, but culprits, stood in one purpose, and who were actually armed, the situation of innocent persons? It had been said, bet was 16,600. The disaffected themsels that the reason of the Noble and 'Learned Lord for were good authority in that case, actually , introducing the Bill was, to expedite trials for sedi- that, taking the line from the Wear and thi 'emu and blasphemous libels. Now, the only clues- to Carlisle, the numbers of thoie wh. tion was, whether this was a sufficient reason for die- could collect and place confidence in =lot kurbingthe law of the• Country ? and as he believed I°° ." men ' that the c our s e dela, c the law at t permitted, Earl STRATHMORE begged to add, the ',retarded the cof justice, en tra e tl e vew he should morning received information, that, from !support the Bill.—The Bill was then read a second turbed state of the County, the Magistrates !time, and ordered to be committed on Tuesday. the district in which he resided had been obliged to leave their houses, and take their . POSSESSION OP ARMS BILL. I . The House having resolved itself into a Committee to Newcastle. On receiving that information, had made the proper application to have hi. Ron the Possession of Arms Bill, The Earl of DARNLEY moved for the omission taken out, and assured their Lordships he wom repair io his post (Hear, hear, hear). l ot - that clause in the Act which authorized search by rd REDESDALE said, that he had that ! night, contending, that all the purposes of the Bill Lo would be answered by limiting the search to day time. ing received letters from Newcastle, which 1 I Lord EtLESSINGTON expressed a fear that the confirmed the statement of the Noble Earl ;Bill was intended to be put in force in Ireland, where more), but actually exceeded it, in the scoot gave of the disturbed state of that . was quiet, and deprecated strongly the impolicY gpart of the —Adjourned to Monday. of such a measure. He alluded tp past experience in that country, for the purpose Of shewing the evils HOUSE OF COMMONS. with which the principle was fr4ught, and the abuse mr. Huv ww". from the Bank of Billandi and Lord with which it had been attended. Lord SIDMOUTH said, that the Bill only applied Account of the Weekly Amount of Bank Notes ana T B:l m s he in r, cir; l9 lati . on from t the o s b 9 e th .Inne, 1419, to the to certain Counties in Great Britain, but that a power Sir. Serjeant ON e SLO red t W was given to extend its provisions to Ireland, if it should be necessary. He objected to the Amendment the 15th of December, he would move a Standing gave not ice, that on no Bill relative to Trade and Manufactures should be . into o the tt H ee ouse without first sedergoing the consideration proposed by the Noble Lord, without which, he con tended, that the Bill might be evaded. The present measure afforded a security not contained in the 52d On the motion for reeding the Order of the Day for'" of the King, by providing that the information should re resolve itself into a Committee of Supply, which the Committee vies postponed to Monday. be given on oath. Mr. CURWEN gave notice that on M on day he . The Duke of SUSSEX supported the Amend- sen t ereamis to the Seditious vrlih rendered Assemblies in P "lsi en tile tio fiw n Bill. meat, to s meat, as he conceived that the Bill 'might be carried %On the motion of Mr. CA LLAG H A 14,112 humble Ad. into effect without it, in a manner less offensive to the ordered to be presented to his Royal Highness the Prince üblic feelin The Earl of ROSSLYN asked whether the clause praying that he would direct that there be laid before th P g. Civil Bills, the E r i l ec um t berto:enlnteditedctm:inthtsthaneda Clerk s Appeals, , which made the possession of arms, of a particular in Ireland, from 1756 to the last year ; and also a cer description, a prfinefecie evidence that they were in, modal which had been presented to Load Whitworth tended to be used 4gainst the State, was so guarded sufficient state of the Police. as not to apply to common arms, such as guns,. pis- COMKITTIM OP WATS AND MANS. the mod tots, &c. and whether, as no oath was required to jus- to °ll resolve i a and Means, tifftbs seizure of the one , the necessity of an oath, Mr. KENN ED Y n expresser a o wish to Yll know what . o 4 for a reading the O r de r of the day for s Lord SIDMOUTH said, that the clause expressly might not be evaded with ' respect to the other ? intentions of his Majesty's Government on a very important mentioned pike-heads or 7 The 59th Geo. 111. c. as, for Equalizing the ' as the descr iption of Malt, had taken away the ptevions distinction which . respect to the Northern parts of Ireland, and had prodi - *lace of the evil intention; and sei without infer weapons that should be considered ' facie evi• mast injurious e ff ects, by the en t which i' . to ill distillation. Was it the 'on of his Mai elation upon oath. The common weapons whidh "num** to ilodif l, dist Insular° The cli might be kept merely for purposes of def e, ere w— several representations had been made to Government or ANC% LOR of the EXCHEQUER rePßeir not regarded in that view, and an oath of the supposed subject, w hich had been put leto the hands of the Sgard purpose for which they were intended was required, thee' As soon as result of the investigation by ' before they could be seized. was known, it would be taken into consideration. ard,' me Meese then reserved itself htto the °manatee, The Earl of ROSSLYN thought it h that th e on the motion of the CIIASOILLOPi of the Escuseess , moo who bad in his possesbioo pike-beads or spears, 'that were greet to, trucwiste tbs awl Ds* , 911 s o pa; ama-i to be receive Britisl the opinio inform: occurred t Icy obtait recomir '....... MIL ~. ~~ . r an d soo; seil4 leild l'eo — defe d to Ipet receive A his ' rte° ANTICLIDS 0 insu. r.Right Honouritble Fr it that ''' Ri— ?lance name ble inlP° -- ' !cause n Duties w hici miter, o f ecru' •• Union it Articles of 1, and e ,enty years from its i public . r`"" • 1 o f Britisl o n odic es . v FITZGERALD ope r ly et- S es . this subject, it unlen of his ; li g on He confesses to bed Session . ble Frien d's im nd h ad .ura. ' ble for the i nform: .d, I t was ev i dent, the 'Pence, •ira , . ) get it a r tunity of stating tl ase the ' ° ELLOR of CHANC strict! ' e wit h his Right H saw ra . rrc d of im e subject gre at . Is Right Honor ost serious considerat In Loll. e inquiries which it hi gradu. s•itute on the occasion Ittnorle ' us et able t , e made he was 7 t be the ultimate dete her points, the furthe : clause, mid the term of the istrates" dbl Whethi n avoi a e. that h to pre ss ger or shorter, or wl cannon" d permanent or not ad been sw ert ley l'' V. ZGE It ALI "was ion to hi s Right I.; h which had r n ment separated at ti r ' sert , ;.111.°1:'''' : ura ble Friend for re n Bills which had be 't r it put an ,d, were i n progress ; !Id : and letion, in consequen istitutica which had occurred n Adrif- on the subject. In t i..forc:, bjected to a conside %Ito had employed 1 ; endmert, suffering extremely. what was the nature lendrne7t t Honourable Friend the c.....:5. !it? If his Right that information, it ered t'a.it nt to the public at I:. specially interested. .rd MILTON said tb :.Drilling ;lance, but trusted, lopted. 1 ations which Govel t !red to be .t think fit to adopt, ahem de nature. The Noble rn tY, ags at the Cu :to tuni of whether justly or no •ed they were consid Iluding to H. PARNELL, a ,eared the a few minutes Info they were 'hancellor of the Ex say , t h at rnment to propose nods, fell • st for a certain time He would e Articles of the Ur and), the d to know whether si h e s.w place without a m ment. He :hpcemeoicsonnuttenthatlel 'les of the Union ? I ,tion. He those Duties could the lime aof the Articles of old be lost to ascertain the opin )st happy e subj'ect. it purpose e CHANCELLOII measur es. yto the Honourable Ri g ht s o f .Clegality of the i subject. It had alv unwilling rvtlime that he ha aid lie-was expiration of the t ;obit! Earl Articles of the UT ration that its named, was a united;n ect propriety and ji , the rune emplation of Parli !Ives, who tion put to him by y boasted, ough he most rea the The siderations of great horn tr,lf nd to individuals, .a the subject in th counted to er prepared to an eedings on the me . effort to obtain .le him to recomrr orn h str at th h aetes e that a actUally ly to remedy - the t eir families i t H. PARNELL mation, be ch the provisions i sic decline:: 'ed was,on the poi would then 's arrangements 1171 •lit conduce to th that morn- Ireland; . that a b not alone less would be tr non arl (Strath- use might not be p s arga ation fot ivhi ci ch ait sv ti a4 ' i the Lord Liet Irish Vestries, and rid of. i `fir C. MONCK w id Bank Pon the 29th No - -117 p a id to t h em, i 'iv-Kt -wally, red any further re g Order, tf.st Lord CASTLERI be introduced deration (.: a • ributed amongst for the Hove could not positivi cb was read, Sir C. MONCK v ci give of granting rguinotes? He °duce Regent, g their ancient ha bre the How peals, Causes, Lord CASTLER 3 of the Peace ment was antic copy of a rt!e - qtlfort in their pry Irth on the •,:. •eY contemplated SEDITIOUS MI for the He==' I Lord CASTLEII tans, a Y for going into that were the 'etter prevention mportant st.t• ~r . ril TIER e NEY he Duties ri i_. h existed -a" ' 5 lain the nature of produced tlle. 'tention to intsoch it it had g iv e ' id more • • re especiall Majesty's C.). (.... :Lions was to m • replied, th ze 1; 4 ...„ rd : cASTLEI iment on the ""' giving any el Board of Fa - 'resew. moment, by t hat Barrl hick 4 all parties ttee, in which, * °rn , ntitt ee the bl bus!, Itowl'" , 'id defer hi s e 04 Ittit, 1. , .1.1,, intended that :Awdodreuidsse: detyea:slllimvb: Ministers ti ne receives greath a, _ Ft name whict the letht of opin an me pot WI th be and Liet great -c ha antic ' p 0