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. , et ""'"," • II the will bf the people; direr/ ccPreffed by their frei fuff-ages where the arieciPal executive reqtiOligi* and thole of the legilloture aie renewed tor them ,at Ihort periods, where, under the chitaeter of jurors, they exercife in perfat the greateß portion o(the ju- • diciary powers, where the laws are confequeatly itt formed and adminillered, as to bear wnh,..equal" weight and favour on all, reftrainrng no,rnin id the purfuits of honeß initiftry, and riming to: eiery one the property which that acquiret, it ircroldri9t be ruppored that any fireguards wild be needad• againit infurreCtian or euterprife on the public peao( or authority. The laws, however, aware thole Mould not be truiled to moral rettraints only, have wifely provided punifhtnent for tittle crimes, when committed. But would it not be felutary to give alfo the means of preventing their fortuniffion Where an enterprife h meditated by prVrate Inditt duale againit a foreign riatton,, in amity - with the United States, powers of prevention, to a certain extent, are given by the laws. Would they not be as reafonable and ufeful, where the eßterprize prepa ring is againll the United States ? While adverting to this branch of law, it is proper to obferve, that in enterprifes meditated againit foreign nations, the or dinary procefs of binding to the obfervance, of the pea,ce and good behaviour, could it be extended. to stEts to be done out of the jusifdietion ot tise United States, would be effeCtual in fame cafes whet the Offender is able to keep out of fight every indication of his purpofe which could draw on him the exer cife of the powers now given by law. • " The Rates on the coati of Barbary kern gene rally difpofed at prefent to refped peace and friend !hip- With Tunis alone fome uncertainty remains.— Perfuacled . that it is our interelk to maintain our peace with them on equal terms, or not At all, I pro pore fo fend, in due time, a reinforcement into the Mediterranean, unlefs previous information (hall Thew it to be UnDCCadrY• ed We continue to receive proofs ' of the growing attachment of our Indian neighbours, and of their difpofition to place All their intereßs under the pa tronage of the United States. Thefe difpofitions are infpired by their confidence in our juftice, and in the • fincere concern we feel for their welfare. And -as long as we difcharge thefe high and honourable fnnetions with the integrity and good faith which alone can entitle us to their continuance, we may expel to reap the jolt reward in their peace and friendfkip.- " The expedition of Mars. Lewis and Clarke, for • exploring the river Millburn and the belt communi cation from that to ti e Pacific Ocean, has had all the footers which could have been expetted. They have traced the Mtfrouri nearly to its fource, defcen tied the Columbia to the Pacific Oceaa, afcertained with accuracy the geography of that interelling communication acrofs our continent, learnt the cha - rafter of the country, of its commerce and inhabi tants, and it is but jultice to fay, that Meffrs. Lewis and Clarke, and their brave companions, have, by this arduous fe: vice, de(erved well of their country. 0 . The attempt to explore the Red River, under the - direltion of Mr. Freeman, though conduCted with a zeal and prudence meriting entire approba tion, has not been equally fuccefsful. After proceed ing up it about boo miles, nearly as far as the French fettfements are extended, while the country was in their polreffi our geographers were obliged td return. without completing their work. Si Very ufeful additions have alto been made to our knowledge of the Miaiffippi by Lieutenant Pike, who has offended it to its fource, and whore journal and map, giving the details of his journey, will fhortly be ready for communication to both Hooks of Congrefs. 'Thole of Meffrs. Lewis, Clarke, and Freeman will require further time to be digeßed and prepared. Thefe important furveys, in addition to thofe before poffeffed, furnifh materials for commen cing an accurate map of the Milfiillppi and its weflern, waters. Some principal rivers, however, remain Rill to be explored, towards which the authorization of: Congrefs, by moderate appropriations,will be requifite. " I congratulate you, Fellow Citizens, on-the ap proach of the period at which you may interpofe' your authority, conflitutienally, to withdraw the Citizens of the United States from all further parti cipation in thofe violations of human rights, which have been fu long continued on the unoffending in habitants of Africa, and which the morality, the' reputation, and the bell interells of our country, have lung been eager to profcribe. Although no law you may pats can take prohibitory effeB till the firft riu of the year 1808, yet the intervening period is not too long to prevent, by timely notice, expedi tions which cannot be completed before that day. The receipts of the Treafury, doting the year, ending on the 3oth day of September 1011, have amounted to near fifteen millions of dollars ; which have enabled us, after meeting the current demands, to pay two millions feven hundred thouland dollars of the American claims, in part of the price of Louifiana ; to pay, of the funded debt, upwards of three millions of principal, and nearly four of init. l tell ; and , in addition, to reimbusfe,in the donde of the prefent month, near two million* . "Of fiVe and a half per cent. flock. Thefe payments and reimburfe menus of the funded debt, with thote which had been made in the font years and a hairpreceding.will at the elate of the prefent year have extingoilhed up .... 'wards of twenty.tlir ee millions of princip7.l. • " The duties compoling the Mediterranean Fund will ceafe, by law, at the end of the prefent feffion. Confidet Mg, however, that they are levied chiefly on lissuries, and that we have an impolt on fait, a necef trey of life, the free ,ufe of which otherwife is fo imkiortant, I recommend to your confederation the fuppreffion of the duties on fah, and the continuation of the Mediterranean fund inftead thereof, for a (bort t i me , aftcr which that alto will become unneceflary for any pirpofe now within contemplistion. " When both of there branches of revenue (hall, in Ibis way, be relinquinsed, there will Rill; 'ere long, be an accumulation of monies in the Treafury beyond the inlialment of public debt, which we are per. mitted by contra& to pay. They cannot th e n, with• out a modification oriented to by the public creditors 'h e applied to the eat higuifisment of this debt, and the complete liberation of our revenues, the moil defer able of all objeas. Nor, if our peace continues, will ;hey be wanting for any other exitling purpofe. The queltion, therefore, now comes fOrWard, to what % other objet thcfc furphiffe, he appropria te d. a nd The whole furplus of inrpoll, after the entire difeharge the public debt, And du:ing thole intervals when purpofes of war not call IA them? all we '.• • . fupprefa the imi reign over don% itr ral eer a o r e t mar of ilk am rigger titlark ? . enough to allot patrrotiftn wou. 2rtainly pr_ and application to the great purpofes of the public education, roads, rivers, canals, and , fuch other objet of public improvement, as it might be thought proper to add to the conftitutianat enumeration of ['Federal Powers. By theft operations, new channels Of rommunication wilt be.ofoened between the Statei —the lines of feparation wilt clifappear, their iuteretis Will be identified, and their union cemented by new and indiffolubfe ties.. Education is here placed among the articles ofyoblic care, ism that it would be pro- . poled to take its ordinary branches out of the hands of private enterprize which manages fo much bettor all the concerns to which it ii equal : but by a public inftitution can alone fupply thole kences, which,.: though rarely called for; are yet necedaFoer templet the circle, all the parts of which contribute to the inli• provement 9f the country, and Come of them to its prefervation. 64 The fubjeEt is now propofed for the confidera-. tion of Congrefs, beeaufe if appsoved , by the time the State Legi fl atures (hilt have 'deliberated on t tif. mention of the federal truth, and the laws fhall paffed, and the arrangements made for their executioik. the neceffary funds will be in hand, and without enti- . ployment. I fuppofe an amendment of the Confti tution, bi confent of the States, neceffary ;Inca* the objeds now recommended are nOt among thA enumerated in the Conflitution, and to which it:per mits the public monies to be applied.. 44 The prefent confideration of a national eka blifhment for education, particularly, is rendered pro per by this circumftance alto, that if Coagtefs, ap proving the propofition, (ball yet think it more eligi ble to found it en a donation of lands, they have it now in their power to endow it with thofe which will be among the earliefi to produce the neceffary income. This foundation would have the advantage of being independent on war, which may fufpent other im provements, by requiring for its own purpofes the refourees deftined for them. " This, Fellow Citizens, is the Rate of the public interefls at the relent moment, and according to the information now poireffed. But fuch is the fituation of the nations of Europe, and fuch too the predica ment in which we Rand with Tome of them, that we cannot rely with certainty on the prefent ;dm& of our affairs, that may change from moment to mo ment, during the courfe of your Seffion, or after yon fhall,have feparated, Our duty is, therefore, to-aft upon the things as they are, and to make a reafonable provifion for whatever they may be. Were armies to be railed whenever a fpeck of war is vifible in our horizon, we never fhould have been without than.— Our refources would have been eahaufted on dangers which bave never happened, inflead of Wog refereed for what is really to take place. A Ready, perhaps a quickened pace in preparations for the defence of our feapert towns and waters, an early fettlement of the molt expofed and vulnerable parts of the country; a militia fo organized, that its of edite portions can be called to any pint in the Union, or Volonieers inflead of them, to ferve a fufficient time, are means which tnay alwayi be ready, yet never preying upon our relources, dntil a/Nally called into ufe. They will maintain the public incerefts, while a more per manent force (hall be in a cuurfe of preparation.— Butmuch will depend on the promptitude with which thefemeans can be brought into aCtivity. If war be forced upon us, in fpite of our long and vain appeals to the jußice of nations, rapid and vigorous Move ments, in its outlet, will go far towards fecuring us in its courfe and iffue, and towards throwing its bur. dens en thole who render neceffary the retort from reafon to force. " The refult of our negociations, or fuch incidents in their courfe, as may enable us to infer their :pro.. liable iffue fuch further movements alto on our Weftern frontier as may Phew whether war is to be preffed there, while negotiation is protralted where, (hall be communicated to you from time to time, as they become known to me ; with whatever other information I pollefb, or may receive, which may aid your deliberations on the great national in terefts committed to your charge. (Signed) 66 December 2,1806. " TH. JEFTEESOII." HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DEC. 3, 7 M. J. Randolpit, Chains& of the rhous ;was referred the Piefident's lwreported a Rill for !Upending A&. was twice. read, and rnittee of the while to-morrow. •The Report of the Dili for tufpend lation Alt, was taken into confi- Mr. Sloan oppored the filling up the blank, with the words D:cember 31, iBo7, and propofcd July t, which was .greed to. The Bill was then read a third time and paired, upon a divilion—Ayes rot : Noes 5. Nsw Yoae, Dec. t T.—Letters from Philadelphia Rate, that the French frigate le Valeureur, of 44 guns, now at that place, will fhortly be condemned, the French agents not being able t..) procure the menu of repairing her. • COLONEL acme. WASHINGTON, Dec. I.—We haveveceived from a gentleman of the &HI refpetlability, foil- arrived from 'Kentucky, the following (Imminent of liar relative to the judicial proceedings in the cafe of Colonel Burr : • judge trines having taken time to confider the applieatioo of. the Attorney of the.Dfttridt, which waits ifrue weeds to enforce •, the attendance of Mr.. Burr; to answer interroxabities wirethkr he was engaged in the (chime afcribed to him, tatty ;to enforce 'the at tendance of witnefcs to give teftimony Nicht Cone - point; on the lib or the Bth of November (oUr informant is not eentin.whlch dap) pronounced the 44m1fien of the Conn, width was,,,titat the Court did not poffefi the priirter to rant the piotion*,; and If they did. that the affidavit was not ftifilelent ground for It. r.; • " On thiwiotion of the Attorney of the Diitria,tboennt then ordered a Grand Jury to he fummoned ;Outer, which was teem ; dingly formed during the fitting of the Court. At this point of time Mr. Burr; attended by his Connie!, appeared in Court. Mr. Burr addreffed the Court, and fitid,that•baviug underftood, juft as 'be was about to leave the State, that certain charges had been pre ferred againft him, he had come from Lexington for the purpofe of et:quelling an immediate inveftigation might be had. ",Mr. Cravats, the Diftriet Attorney, bid be was not prepared `to fir into an immediate inveitigation before the Grand Jury, and Moved that they &mild be diftniffed until the Wedneiday log, to givahim an opportunity, in the mean dote, to summon his witneffes. The Court granted the motion. On Wednefday the' Court met. Of thirteen witneffes funtmerfrad,tw.elve appeared.---' The only abfent witnefs was a Member of the Legitlature of the • Indiana territory, then bid to be fitting. The Grand Jury like wife attended. " In this Rage of the bafinefs, Mr. Daveifs, it is laid, without aligning any nation, informed the Court that be was not prepared th carry theca& before the Grand Jnry,and moved their difcharge, which accordingly took place. No rufous were aifigned for this molt extraordinary; course of procedure. Our informant adds, that the Rate of the public mind at Kentucky was tranquil, and not avolee was heard in favour of reparation." RETRACT OF A LETTER, DATED WASHINGTON, DEC. 6 4 , You have beard that the Prcfident recommended a fufpcnfion of the Non-Importation Law. It has been the fuhjed of much eonverfation here. Some of the democrats, and more particularly Mr. Crowninfhiehl and Mr. Sloan, were againft fulpending it.— Mr. Crowninfhield was of opinion that it ought not to-be fufpend ed at all. Mr. Sloan was of the fame opinion, but was willing that a power to that vied should he lodged in the Prefident. Mr. Sloan thought that if it were forpended by Ad of Congrefs, the term of fofpenfion should not laft beyond the month of February. " This Mr. Sloan was the Gentleman who pubilihed tome years ago, In the New Jerky Papers,that he withed to fee a French army in America; and this Mr. Crowninflfteld is the Member Pram Salem, who laft hellion advocated fo Itroagly the Refolutiona of Mr. Gregg, which went to the abrogation of all inttrcourfe with America. and who Rated that the American privateers could take ~more of Brit& property than the Bad& could take of our's. " On the morning of the 6th, Mr. Randolph moved the confi deration of the Pre dent's Meffage as to the Sufpenfion of the Non- Importation Ad, and alto the reading of the Bill which the Com mittee had reported for fofpendirg it. He Paid that he had ander ftood the fellet of the Houfe to be, that the law Mould not be fur vended fo tont se the gosh apes sett; be had, however. named that day. " It now feemed from the documents before them,that the con dudt of Great Britain towards us, was more friendly than at the bet Salon, when it *as Bated to be extremely bonne ' and when the Non-Importation Law was, notwithßanding, fufp cnded until the Ilth of November. He would, therefore, now move, that the blank mould be Riled with the ;tit of December next. " Mr. Elliot feconded the motion, and was in favour of an en tire repeal. Coogrefs would rife before the 3ctb of June. Their Scion would conititutionslly clofe on the 3d of' March. The merchants would not know what to di with their orders--tbe farmers would be at a lots to difpofe of their produce. Another nation had Invaded us, and we mould not wantonly quarrel with Great Whale. " Mr. Bidwell was infavour of the 3cth of June; fo was Mr. Sale, who thought that the researdre had had a falutaty effed ! " Mr. Randolph declared, thLt although in the Select Com mittee he had propofed the 3oth. of June, he was now clearly con• oilseed, from the fubfecient repreferaatinta which hod been trade,' that much commercial embarrAffmein would proceed front the period taking place during the reeds of Congrefs, without any power being vetted in the Adminiftration to prolong it. ! On the motion being taken for fining the blank with De cember 31: there were for it 46—againft it 94 le was then moved and feconded, that the Bill fhould be recommitted, in order to give to the Prelident the right of fisfpending the operation of the law, this motion was loft, and oo the third reading of the Bill it patted in the affirmative 7-8 noes. I thaU not pretend to fay at prefent what will he done in the Senate, but it is generally fuppofed that an Amendment to the laft mentioned aka will there take plies." PARMAMENTART PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, JAN. i 6. in the further hearing of the Appeal Caufe, Page and others v. Hamilton, the Solicitor General was heard in reply. The furthCr coofideration was appointed for Thurfday fe'nnight. The Duke of Richmond, Bifhop of Ely. Earl of Dartmouth, and Lord Carteret, took the oaths and their feats. The Deputy Unser of the Black Rod bt?og fent to require the attendance of the Gentlemen of the Houfe of Commons, and they, with the Speaker, *baying appeared at the Bar, the Royal Affent was given, by Commiffion, to the Exchequer Bills till, and to • . Bill of Naturalization. • The Commiffioners were, the Lord Chancellor, Lord, 'Aoch land, sod Walfingham. Lord WALSINGHAM prefeoted the Report of the Commit tee of Privileges, op the claim to the Barony of Howard de Wei. , len —Ordered to be printed. Mr. GRAHAM, the lapeetor General of Conviefs, prefented the annual report of the (Late of the Hulks on the River Thames and at Portfmouth.—Ordered to lie on the table. • Adjourned until Tuefday next. HOUSE OF COMMONS. A &left - age from the Lords required the atendanee of the Houfe in the Hourc of Peers, to hear the Royal Agent given to certain Bills. On the return of the Speaker, he informed the Houfe, that the Royal Arent bad been given to the Exchequer Bills Bill. The SPEAKER informed the Houfe, that he bad received from the Clerk of the Crown in Ireland, a lift. purfusat to the order of the Houfe, of fueh Barrifters as *ere willing to Comminio ben under the Irith kledion Bill. The order for taking into confide:ration the Petition for New eagle under Line, was difcharged, as the parties bad not entered Imo. the ufual recognizances. Similar .orders were made on the fame ground, nfpeding the Petitions for the County of Mayo, and the towns of Mshufbury and Hythe. 'Lord CASTLEREAGH moved, thaithe abitracils of the Army Eftimates prefcritcd, on the .tech, by the Secretary at, War, Would be printed, which was ordered accordingly. • Mr. T. GRENVILLE prefented an account of the Debt of the Navy, as it Rood on the tats September, 111060.4ardatti to lie upon the ftble. . _ Alin. GRENVILLE then gm notice, that los *ad move that account in the Coinmittee o f Supply on Fri* ant ; as a) for 10,.t oo kanten, iq gd.lition to the isoppeaksitrmided IllsjOnt4 NEWPOR_ *ought Mrs.lllllittrillilithing certain Oileefin the Cutters* Depardnent in Ireland, which was read .a ame, 3#4 erdaccl tc Der#44 # recond time Qo T 1 04 27 nose, , ipoli, an; C't that auratT ; g p to, us..* P . , . to 4.-14. ethic plasm ores ?On a • . • - ' to who allitit 4iteelfary ufe, tha f stank ~„ ...e . yefterday, Wrilldnobtleri be right !.. 'but dit grOlt • portation picles o• wh;ch import a paid,vaatjhri eed to the Coma papshafed by thole only who are Ads . tics mast 6.—Th Ord themfelves the de of them. Their- itig the Non-importai uld certainly prefer its continuance, deration. _ BIPICIAL MBSSAGB FROM THR PRISIDINT OF THB UNITED STATES. Referred to Meals. John Randolph, Marion, Vats Conandt, M•Creery, and Chandlers. " To the Senate and Houfa of Reprefcntatlves of the United States of Amcrica:••••• " I have the fatisfadion to inform you, that the negociation depending between the United States and the Government of Great Britain, is proceeding in a Ipirit of friendfhip and accommodation which pro miles a Walt of mutual advantage. Delays, indeed, have talken. place, oecafinned,by the long 411:sefo and fubfequent death of the &kin, miniaer charged with that duty. 'But the Commiflioners appointed bi l t e t ro at Government to refume the negociation have every ditpofition to haften its progrefs; it is, hevtevet, a work of time, as many arrangements aro nece(fkrit to place our future harmony on liable grounds. In the mean time, we find, by the communications of our Plenipotentiaries, that a temporary fulpenfion of the Ad of the laft Sefflon, prohibiting certain importations, would; as a mark of candid difpofition on our part, and of confidence in the temper and views with which they have been met, have a happy cffett on its courfe. 4 , A (Lep fo friendly will afford further evidence. that all our proceedings have flowed from views of juliice and conciliation, and that we give them wil lingl' that form which may belt meet corsefponding difpofitions. _ _ ;4 Add to this, that the fame motives which pro. duced the palponement.ot the A& till the isth of November )aft, are in favour of its further fufpenfion; and as we have re,tfon to hope that it may foon yield to arrangements of mutual cadent and convenience, jultice Teems to require that the fame meafore may be dealt out to the few cafes which may fall within its (port courfe; as to all others preceding and follow. ing it. I cannot, therefore, but recommend the fuf penfion of this a& for a leafonable time, on confide rations of jultice, amity, and die public interells. (Signed) • " TN a JEFFIRIt." 4, December 3, z Sob."' CAR* isYtatoulse The Hoire refolved itfelf into a Committee for conflicting d e ' Aft of the left ScWon, relative to rite free Exportation of Co , Grain, and Floor, from Groat Britain to Ireland, aid from h t , land to Great Britain. Sir JOHN NEWPORT Rated, that from the generality of ti e wording of the Ad, doul.ts bad arifen whether the Aft did not extend to the pernalMon of Foreign Corn being exported from ob e country to the other. at a time when, by the laws before antic % it could not be imparted direCtly. He therefore &add move, a s a Refolution, that the Chairman of the Committee ltd in a 11111, declaring that the provilloita of the.faid A ez'end to Grain which was the prodaili of the two' eotuatrieo... Phis Refolvoion was unaninyully agreed to. 12ord POIbefIESII:R •liiketi.. whether the repladons we t meant to extend to Malt exported from one country to the och e, as well as Corn and Grain ? Sir JOHN NEWPORT anfwered, that they were not. He no obje&kti that the Exportation of Malt could remain as non is'prolibited: - - - 141. CAWTHPRIKE. I.ord HOWICK fuggefted to an Hon. Gentleman, then in pi, place, (General' Porter) th4t it might be proper, if he had b , Ibbn4objettiou to it, to pottpone the motto° of which he' %I girth notice for Wednefday next, as upon that day the debatem, flied for the Army Eftimates, a fubje[ft which the Hon. Ghent would feel to be of; the iiighett important:. General PORTER allowed that the qutltion of the Army a. mates was of fo much importance, tbat hg, for his part, h o w ftel content ta Poßpone his Motion in order to give Way to it. Mr. CAWTHORNE allowed that it would be no great meat, venienee to him perfonally, that the bulinefs mould be poltp os o for two dayalonger.. Heibmild, therefore, throw 'hingelf as, the feeling of the Houle, whether, after be had already famed' much, and, at hebelieved, Muth more than be had. deferred 1 , sar f c t i t h queltiou disould not now be iiirpaled of orkkall cow OR (peed. 4 Lord HOWICK, although he coofidered the difenflion on he I Army Elllmates as of fuperlor Importance, yet be wan ready h dhow that this ins alto a quettirin of very confiderahle impattasse, ' aid, Croce it was brought foniard, required the molt ferias fideration. He could not but regret that this bufinefs was an brought. forward, but since i! was, it mutt be difeuffed opon fb neral grounds. The Hon. pan Isnart (Mr. Cawthorlle) hang confeffed that the delay of two days would be of no material h e couvenience to him, be thought it would be the better way toped. pone the motion Trout Wudnefday to Friday. General PORTER acquit fetid in this fuggeßion, and the =tip was accordingly altered fur that day. • - TRADE OF NEUTRALS. Mr. PERCkVAL rote in pur(uance .of a notice lie bad_givein rertfay s . that.he would this day mol t for the Orsliv.of Council refpeaing the 'sinewt that trade was to be carried on by Neutralsbetween tie different port ' of the enemy. He had not ilfirlt con. ceived that there could be any groan'fls.ofaspopoatine to that motion, except that the ?aper appeated oft leis, as being-.a thing' of public notoriety, barb% been already publithed in- the Landon Gazette. It was true that every argument might as well bead vahced even without the production of that Papet, hut it was the Parliamentary ufage to ealrloiluck Papers to be laid before the Houfe when any motion was intended to be grounded on theni. derail the prOJuaion of fuel a paper fonqrly a ma rev "of conrfe, that he was much furprifecf it the Noble Lord (Lord Howick) giving him to rinderfiand the he lhould oppofellie pi oduaton of the Paper, becatM the motion ti at ht - ftwofed it •vris jbis intention.* ground upon it was ousithat could nbt have Ns col: currence .or fopport. He thought that this was sal 'extraotdinarf grinind tO:pcipbfe the production of s' Paper upon'; but as it /aS to . be' opi)dfed' on that ground, and be confideredthe ?übjeet of great im portance, he wilted to pullpone it. for Coale Ila longer, to give more time to himfelf and to did-look to confider the &Net+. • Lotd.HOWICK ' -11 Q means ronfiderett that _ by produdioa of fuels a Palter was a matter of comic. Although it might be toferted in the Gazette, and he a mime' of ptiblie'notoriety, yet it did not follow that it fhould be laid before the Houfe for-the per. pofe of founding any proceeding of which the.Houfi did not approve. As tar as he conld tolled the vi of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, he c' n'crt poffibly concur with him—he conceived his jeft to be altorther unprecedented, and highlyibr jettionable. He, however, had no ohjeftion to* polponement of the motion, as he allowed is to be of importance, and one which deferved confideratioe. Mr. PERCIVAI. was forprifed that the Nobie Lori fhould feel the motion that he anticipated, to be fa very objeftionable, when he was ignorant of the precife nature and ate& of it. He believed that when it came to be dircuffed, it. would be found that it was not his motion, but the rounds upon which the hl.)ble Lord intended to oppofe that motion, that would be found to be altogether unprecedented. Lord HOWICK laid that would appear whenever the motion came to be dinuffed.` Inehe 'mean tier he wifhed the fEmnurable Gentlemab wou ld ' your the Houle with form tiateenent *of the genera nature of the motion he kneaded to ground on tit Paper, if produced. Mr. PERCIVAL had no objeainti;tolate ter general aim of his motion, although he ktad 'not ye!, refolved on the manner in which he yeti 'to thane it t' he wifhed to bring under the difcdfion of the Houle the merits, the expediency, and the ads meafute to obtain the objeft it profeffei view, whether as applied to the prineik. Lion again* the enemy, or the reariain teal trade. He fhould have to contend the ptihciptes it proceeded, it wits' tart likely to be effcathil for the ohjeas it be thodld then with to call upon Pittlial an Opinion refpeting its adequacy, or adi of greater vigour were not necciTar not perkelly made up his mind as to• that he intended to fubmit to the. trufted that what he had faid would' put them into poffefflun of the prier; object of it. After Come further converralion, Mi motion was poilponed till T hurfday fe' ARMY ESTIMATES. Mr. JOHNSTONE rofe to move, Etlimaies, which were` now on the tat .‘, printed for the ufe of the Members. As to the Ordi• nary expences of the Army;their pay, am] the deli of the regular expenditure, he did not think'that lac pf fuch material confequence, as it was a thing which could be eafily calculated ; but at prefent, when de greater part of the ex - pence of the Armf is in extra., ordinaries, it was more peculiarly necetTary to knee what thefe items were, apd efpecially as in fome is fiances, one of which he bid mentioned on a former night (the fending of gun-powder to Ceylon) dies appeared to have been a great degree of negligee. rn thofe.whofe duty it was to have examined Aul Items attentiyely. Although it could not be aid to b the common courfe to have the Army Ellipat printed, yet it would be recoilefted that two yee ago a timilar 14.4iu1t was made by au kkg t oulabil • lequacy I>f dui red 'to have :iple of tetalit ing of the neer end that um t in•abrdego propored, aid liament io gilt r whether foie rffitry : he h n• the meal* e. Houle, b be fufficient mil mature a Mr. Perceva' ennight. that the . Aral :able, mould be ;