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• place thrmleives. they would perfevere in that fend ment. If now they &mid be incommoded by fewer thorns, it would tnt becaufe fame had been extraaed by the dilicence of the late Adminittration. Theft were not times in which the public fervice wool(' ad. mit of trifling : the reins of the Rare mull be held by a firm hand, or the rood painful confecmences were to he apprehended. There was an opening for peace prefented, which, according to the opinion of the people ,f England, was not to be neglected ;—they made the proper advances, and the attempt, however unfuccefsful, was meritorious. The chance to °b aron the power of our great enemy had been tried ineffeaually by a formidab i .e co-operation of the Continental Powers, and a peace was difcreetly at. tempted, to prevent new difappointments. In re• Raid to the army and navy, the meafures the late fel vants of the Crown purfued, were at once contli tutional, and direCted to increafe there two Ponces of the national defence. As to the army, the mode adopted for its improvement had been argued as a military expedient by thofe who were much more competent to determine on its policy than lie was ; yet, on the ordinary principles of common fenfe, the m.afure appeared to his mind reafonable, and that they were conftittnional, he had no doubt t and he felt great gratitude to thole who propofed them, as they were manifeftly conducive to remove the evil In much feared by our anceflorr, he meant the exif tence of a large (landing army ; and he earneßly en treated of the Mini tiers now in power, that they would not in this refpeet introduce thcfechanges which might in the fequel be fubvet live of the Conflitution. In re trd to the navy, there was at lead one indication of its good management, fence there was no period of our late protraaed wars in which fewer captu - es had been made. If we were to proceed further, and to examine the politions of the fquadrons expanded over the leas, new proofs would be fupplied of the politic condo& in that important department. With refpeet to the finances, it was Peen that the greeted economy had been applied,although perhaps the great capital& of the country were among thole who were the lead fatisfied with the arrangements. Dircon tznt under fuch circumilances was in human nature, and could nut be feparated from it. It was impoffi ble that there fbould not be a predileetion with per tons of large fortune, in favour of thofe who would enable them to employ it to the grewed advantage. But although he would not depreciate men of great pecuniary refources, yet there was a middle order of men who had patiently follained the bur then of this expenfive war, and would do their tamoll•to fuf taiu as long as they had confidence in thofe who direCted his Majefly's Councils—that clafs cf men would perceive, that the plan laid down by the late Wolters was calculated to relieve them, under loch extraordinary pied - ore, and would feel mortified and dilheattened when it was abandoned. Had not there aclvifers of the crown met every inquiry into their financial fyllem with a manly and temperate fpii it, in order to adopt every improvement, and to give the fulled fatislaNion to thole who were to fultain the heat and labaur of the day ? In this fituation of things, his friends, who had retired from office, had cart ica with them the approbation of their own con fr.iences, confirmed by the refpeet and gratitude of their country. It had been afferted, that the late Adminifiration had been inactive, in not affording to our Allies the affißance they expected. He granted that they had not fubfitlized the nations of Europe, as had been done on former oceafrons, but they had aged more wifely—and by Rationing the naval force in proper direftions, they had moll powerfully co operated with thofe • who defended the- common caufe. He was afloniffied to hear it laid, that there might be an exercife of the Royal Prerogative, for which no one could, or ou;ht to be'refponfible. If it might be In in one indance, it might be in all cafes, and nothing could be more unconftituti :nal than fuch a principle. With regard to loyalty, the term Well was too tame and cold to exprefs that im paffioned attachment which a Britilh fubjea feels towards his Sovereign —his blajefly had condantly !hewn his attention to the in.erell and happinefs of his people, and his veneration fur the Constitution of the country ; yet the fubjea would be in danger of lofing the bell charatter of his loyalty, and the mod important part of his honourable immunities, if he were not to be permitted to quellion the exercife of the Royal prerogative. On a late occafion, tbe King's Miniflers recommended a meafure which bad recently received much dircuffion : he alluded to the conceffion to the Catholics in the army and navy.— This was not brought forward, that Gentlemenmight indulge themfelves in fine fpeeches—it was introduced to tranquilize the mind of the fubjea, in fa particular part of the realm ; and when from oppolition, either at home or abroad, that important defign fhould be disappointed, it was confident with every notion lie could form of wifdom and duty, to withdraw it. They did this, however, with the proper refervation, that their opinions fhould be unbiaffed and unfet tered, that they fhould be allowed to declare that they had not abandoned their former fentiments, and that when the occafion fhould judify it, they might be permitted again to fubmit to their Royal Maker the propriety or neceffity of loch a meafure. This appeared to him to be a fair and refpcaable prceeed ing : they could not content to become time (crying thrillers, or to bar ter the interefts of their country for the power 'and emoluments of office. It was faid, that the King could difmifs his Miaifters at his pleafure, and that therefore there could be no ground for demanding the pledge. Into that he fhould not enquire, but it was perfectly clear to him, that Mi triflers could not conflitutionally enter into fuch 'an engagement. They could not be reftrieled in the advice they loofa give to the Crown ; they were the guardians of the country, and mull refpea the relation they fuftained to it. He would alien yet more—that, had they acceded to the pledge, loch Minifters would have been the proper (Niels of Par liamentary Impeachment. The New Miniflers were faid to be confined by no loch pledge, but he would contend, that they were pledged, by the very act of undertaking their prefent inflations. Suppofing the conceffion that had been propofed to the Ca jtholica fhould be neceffary to preferve the rights of the Crown, and the tranquillity of the People, .Vas it to be expcaed th at, contrar y to Huth, they Mould come to the Houk, and declare that they were erroneous in their judgment ? He commende the d theM for avowing, tn an opeo and manly way, ir fenti- Yents; and their withdrawing the Lill was capable of complete vindication. flnee the contrary would.havel given rife to feriaits diiilions at this critical moment, Brith he and the whole nation mull prefer this coq-1 du& to that of accepting offfces under a difgnifeci pledge, which was made In fficiently manifell from thel minute which had been laidopoti the table. If nothing , which had fallen from his Hon. Friend, or from him fell, in this debate, fhould induce the Houle to de dare its confidence in the late Adminitiration, he hoped, at leaft, it would not be prevented from this bold acknowledgment of its feelings, by the indifcreet threat of the Right Hon. Secretary ( Mr. Canning) to advife his Majefly to diffolve the Parliament. He would cenfrdently affert,. that there was no example of fuch a menace. Was it to be confidered as a fpe cimen of the talents of-the new Secretary for the ar. I duous duties of his office, in which nation he had Inc ceeded a Nable Lord of extraordinary powers, and who was the follower of an illattrious ftatefman, who, to the greaten luaviry of manners, united the greaten drength and dignity of intelleft. He hoped that the Right Hon. Secretary would not fuppofe he meant any perfonal difrefpe& to him ; without any intention of that kind, he (Mr. Hibbert) was dif charging what he conceived to be an imperious eon ffitutional duty. He might think as humbly of him• fell as any man : he might facrifice in his private capacity all the emotions cf pride ; but the honour of that Houfe was a facred troll, which could not be refigned, which mutt not be fligmatized with impu nity ; and if the threat of the Right Hon. Secretary were to be patiently endured, the contlitution of our ancellors mutt loon be fnrrendered. The SPEAKER having read the refolution from the chair, Mr. MILLS expreffed his fur prife at the arguments ufed by the H‘ n. Gentleman who (poke before him ; bit Wore he entered into any obfervations in reply, he would hate his preliminary objefliao to the form of the motion. There we. - e two dillinet propofitions included in it ; the fill way, that the late Minifters deferved well ; the fecond , that their diftnifTAl was 1 1 improper. Ir was certainly poffible to accede to the , meritorious conduit of Minifters, and yet it might be i the cafe that thefe fet vices would be no longer need: fary to his hlaj_fty's Government : fo that, whatever might be the juttice of the language of panegyric 1 that had been employed towards them, it was not a i l neceffary inference that they ought not to be removed. ' , if this objeflion, in point of form, were correct; he might perhaps be excufed, if lie did not examine the 1 foundation of all that prodigality of praife that had been applied. It had been very naturally enquired, if the pledge propoted to the late Minillers were not Ole neceffary confequence of their own milt:nodal ? The anfwer eafily fug . gefted itfelf: it was the una voidable effdl of their mdifcreet precipitation. There were many fubjefts that had been referred to which 1 he would not diced, : he would n• t determine, if the negociation for peace had been well managed 1 if the war had been profecuted with vigour and ability ; if the States of the North had been properly fupported, if the innovations on the fyflem of finance were pru dent ; or if the judicial enquiry into the behaviour of a gallant Naval Officer were reputable ? None of thefe matters would be inveftigate : with forte they might appear to defetie the commendation that bad been applied to them ; with others they would receive 1 an oppofite confttufln , n. For one thing, however, 1 he would give them credit, and that was for the abo- 1 le ion of the Slave Trade, to which an-Hon. Friend of his (Mr. Wilberforce) had devoted his powerful' and liberal mind for fo long a petiod of time. What ever might be the lofty notions the Ex-Minifters en tertained of their own talents, he would after I, that the new fervants of the Crown were by no means nultified by any fuch fuperiority ; and, polkaing equal winlom with their predeceffors in offic.:, he , hoped they would avoid that tone and manner to which the Houfe was lately accuflomed, which, acc ompanied by t he mon brilliant talents, was dif . (wiling, and without them was contemptible. L et ° them exert what violence they pleated in their prefent fituation, the oppofizion would not, by loch an exhi. bition of their powers, prevail againft the ability and eloquence of the new Adminiftration. He could not avoid noticing one remark of the Hon. Gentleman who had jolt fat down, and it *as applied to a remark of the Right Hon. Secretary refpeCting a poffible dif Motion of Parliament. Such an obfervation had never received, he believed, the fame confttuftion before, and he could venture 'to fay that no threat was intended. In the conftitutional view of the mid tion, it was quite enough for the Houfe to know that Mininers were difmiffed, that they had been remov ed in the way the Conffitution had direted; and it was molt abfurd therefore to contend, that on fuch an occafion there was any violation of thofe princi pies which every man mutt be inclined to refpea. Their Royal Matter, when he difmilled his late Ser vants, faid it was an aft of indifpenfable neceffity ; and in this particular the motion teemed to hate a, mon pernicious tendency, as it tended to oppofe the Executive Authority in the exercife et one of its molt important duriei. .It was difficult to conceive why the prefent Minffters ought to have declined taking the helm of the State into their own hands. Was it from a fort of brotherly'fympathy with thol who had retired . from office, left tg,ey fhould give of fence to their predeceffors, or •to what other caufe , was filch relaftance to be afcribed ? What fhould be the cond' u of the late Minifters, who affeeted to have retired from their public duties from confcientious motives ? It fhould not be direfted to oppofe his Majcfly's Government, on whomfoever the impor tant truft might devolve ; their objet fhould be, to promote the publif good by every means in their I power, and to facilitate the ditcharge of the arduous duties of thole who had fucceeded them. Difcarded from his Majefty's Councils, they fhould retain their refped to the Monarch, and their affection to their country. By loch motives they ought to be influ enced ; at leaft, he hoped they Would not madly. furrender themfelves to a blind and headlong oppofi. tion ; and that their friends and adherents would have the modefty to futpend their condemnation of the new Minifters, until tonne opportunity Ihould have been afforded of witneffing their conduit ; or, in other words, until they had been tried. No doubt could atife on the terms in which the Refolution was expelled ; its general purport could not be mifun derftood. Before, an abftraft point was to be die cuffed ; now, the words were more clear and precife, and precluded the poffibility of any mifapprehenfion. Such were the fentiments he had to exprefs on the prefent occafion, He was anxious that a temper of Conciliation fhould prevail ; and he fhould be forty if the late Miniflers could not have tke dignity to re tite from their Rations, without repining at thole who had fucceeded them. Whatever might be the influence of the fpeeches of the two Hon. Gentlemen upon others, upon his mind they had no effe& but to increafe his objections to what they had recommen ded—he fhould therefore conclude with moving the " Order of the Day." The Hon. Mr. WARD expreffed his perfett con• currence in the original motion. It was couched itt terms of moderation and truth, from which no difin terefted friend of his country could reafonably with hold his affent, notwithflanding 211 the pains which had been taken, and all the artifices employed, both. within and without thofe walls, to depreciate the charafters and the conduet of his Welty% late K nitters. No Rratagems had been left untried—no falfehood unpropagatedi to imprefs the public mind with a belief, that it was their determination to hold permanent power againli the will of their Sovereign, and to influence both Houfes of Parliament to flip port them in meafirres againfl the with and opinioa of their Royal mailer. If he had teen any thing in their conduct tending to fuch purpofes, he would be one of the &ft men to tefufe them his fupport.— There was no one more ferioufly difpoled to pay every deference to the withes of the Crcwn on tub- jests of legiflation, and towards our gracious Sove reign, venerable for his age, and admired and be loved for his virtues ; no man was difpofed to carry his reverence higher upon every loyal and contlitu • tional principle. He therefore felt it necefftry, as one of the firm fupporters of his Majefl y's late G iv, rn ment, to vindicate himfelf from a charge, which he did not think any one would be mean enough to im pute to t!se late Minifters, among(' whom there were fo many perfons of the higheti character, talents, and petriotifm, and of whom even his Majefly, in the very moment of their difmilfal, was pleated to exprefs his molt grazi ,us approbation. No man could deny, that the late Minitters flood high in the opinion of their Sovereign and of the people— and, happily fir them, nothing could be more clearly undo; flood than the caufe which led to their difmiffal. That caufe arofe limply from their offering to the confederation of parliament a meafute which they conceived to have had his Majefty's ap- probation. So foon as they were taught to moiler- Rand that it had not, they agreed to withdraw it ; but that was not futhcient ; a folemn pledge was de manded of them, never again, under any circtim fiances, to advife his Majetly to inch a meaftue, or to any thing conneaed with the fithjea. This, however, they firmly but refpeafully declined ; for they could not conceive it as confitlent with their duty or their oaths, ac Privy Councillors, to withhold their advice from his Ma;efty upon that, or any other fubjeet connected with the welfare and fecurity of his empire ; for this, and this folely, they were difmiffed. It was not for the retention of power they were anxious, much !els to retain that power contrary to the withes of their Sove:eign. Their role anxiety was, to leave the adminiftration of the coun• try in able hands, but by no means to force thern'elves upon their Sovereign, as had been charg,ed ae,ainft them, or to affume the office of Mayors of tkr Palate. It would kern that his Majefly would have been at a lots to fill a very principal place amongst their fuc ceifo , s, if the Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman' oppofite to him had not been tempted to accept the office of Chancellor of the Exchequer, by the addi• tional bounty of the Chancellorthip of Lancaller (fir q . t., if it had not been prevented by the interpofionn of Parliament ; but, certainly, for as long a time as he could hold is), in order to enable him to aband. n his profeffional labours, and to Rand forth as a holy champion in vindication of the reli g ion of his coun try. Had it not been for a printed paper recently put. into his hand, as the addrefs of that Right Honourable and Learned Gentleman to his consti tuents, at the late Northampton eleftion, he could not have thought it poffible that filch a fubter- 1 fuge would have been adopted by any man fit to occupy a feat in that Hook, in aid of his can vas, as that of a fanatical hand bill, calculated to ex cite religious warfare in the country. If he were to judge of the writer by the paper, he never could have fuppofed it to come from a great lawyer, an exalted 1 Ratefman, and a Cabinet Minifler of the Crown; but: rather that it was the production of come mifchievous incendiary, who wilhed to fet up the war whoop of fanaticifm through the land, to let mars againft man, and lea againft fed, in a religious warfare, and to extite anarchy and bloodffied through the nation. The' late Minifters had yielded every thing to the withes and fcruples of their Sovereign, but their own honour and their feelings, which they were not bound to re linquifh. If there were any circuretances about the, tranfaftion which caufed their difmitlal, to which he 1 (Mould feel inclined to attach blame, it would be to that or their not havingrelinquilhed their fituations, when they were called on to abandon the Catholic Bill, inflead of confenting to that furrender, and awaiting the completion of the plot then maturing be. hind the throne for their difmilral. Such would have -been-the conduit of Mioiflers of the Crown, in times better to the Conilitation, and more aufpicious to the people; he did not mean the days of the Correfpon• ding Society, or the preceding mra of fanaticifm, when nefropery was the cry, and anarchy and confla ration the order of the day; but in t imes when the Prerogative of the Crown and the duty of its advifers were better underaood, and when fuch a pledge as that which had been demanded of them would have been confidered - as the groffeß degradation. It was fingularly unfortunate, at a moment like the ptefent, when the honors of the French Reyblution, and the fears of anarchy, were linking into oblivion, and fentiments of party and faction fubfiding, to raife a cry of fanatical prejudice, to excite new difcorde,, and promote religious rancour and intolerance, in- Read of cementing the union of every clafs of flab= jests, fo vitally Peccary to the common fectuity of thefe kingdoms. Had the late Miniliers figsed the pledge required of them, they would have figned their own infinity, and Pealed their difgrace, and they would have Abandoned the caufe of toleration beol queathed to them by a great Stattfman, who with his halt breath, recommended the abolition of all religious prefcriptions, as the bell meafnreaif fat• vation to thefe countries, and' of fecurity to his Ma jelly's Crown. With refpea to the queflion ptopofed by his Hon. Friend, he fincerely regretted the late change bf Adminiftration, becaufe it had dept lye] his Islajely of able Miniftcrs, and the country of an ef f icient and patriotic Government, and it had re. placed them by men of a precifely oppofite defcrip. tion in every refpeat. In their meafttres of rigid vi teitance and economy towards the public expenditure, Lilt late Minitters had afforded a rare but brilliant example, even to the rifle of narrowing their own patronage and confequent influence. In their finan cial arrangements, the country, notwithtlanding the heavy expendi toes of - the war, law a plan for conti nuing that war without additional taxes, and this was calculated to int - trite them with r.ew fpirit to maintain the flruggle. But it now remained to be Peen, b y w h a t new e fforts of fublidy their fuccetfors would again exhault Englith gold, the fruits efEng lith labonr, and the tribute of Engin dillrei, to Ilimulate once more the languid Governments of Europeagainfl the enemy, and to purchafe another triumph like the b rule of A ufierlit z, to enable the Secretary atWar, than whom no man was mor e ;ern e potent, to convert a defeat into a vinlore, for v.hich purpofe he would probably be loonpht do t s n by a fpccial retainer to the Foreign Office. Ile nee' ad= verted to the aepointment of the Chancellor or the Exchequer, for no other cetalification than ;hat of being a lawyer, without the dealt knowledge or finonce. lie contended that the chief reafon which rendered the late Ministers fo extremely obnox'ous or the whole army of jobbers arid pecolators e was their economy in the public expenditure : and now this fa. pacions race hailed their cOfiniffil, and cheered the appointment of their facceff rc, as the fignal ef re. turning prosperity, the ievieal of thefe etrod eta times, when corruption and peculation went hand ia hand. Of this the comory ftw an obvious prodie the recal of a Noble Lotto his Ma j etfy's Council, who, in his defence betore• the! H aule, or rather is the proof of his guilt, avowed, that he had beta cntrufled with a large fum of the public money, el • u hie!) he had difonled, but f r which he would never ace runt. He withed to know what thole Miniften could fay for advifing the recal of that Noble Lord to power. while the Ref;,littinos of the Bth of April (till remained upon the journals (lithe( Houle. He charged upon fume of the prefent Adminillsatioa the grolieri incenftilency, it their coming into place upon a pledge neve:, ts?advife - the very meafure, fir their former inabilitfro obi ain which, under the aufpi. cos of their leader,- Mr. Pitt, they had relinquilled power along with that great Statefman. Like him too, they abandoned the Governmeat at the molt critical period—but in this they prantifed the principle of ancient war fare, by preventing the fpoils of theft leader from falling into the hinds of his enemies: they jult continued long enough to collect the fpolia opima of their fallen cLampion, and then fled from the helm they were no longer able to guide ; and now again they feemed to have fprung upon their fucceffors as it were from a fort of ambufh, and again forced their tray to that power from which they had fled, throueh a c al - cirrus inability for its adminiftra don, which they had now nbtaire I by a lolg and dirk iror:gue. a:nd f,,r the retention of which the Right Hon. secretary hid a few nights fince pre finned to infult tiler Houle by a threat to diffolve the Parliament. Mr. Pitt, in the zenith of his power,• had never petrimed to tire 1 , 01 a threat, in any de bete where be was apprehenfive of being left in a minority. The prefent Mini:leis might try the cape. rirneut ; bat it would never procure his power to the prefect Chancellor of the Exchequer, nor transfer kis glory to the Noble Lord at th e head of the Treafury. (Another mrafore which he underhand to have been actviled by Miniticrs, in order to fuhain their ir e fluence, was to ixliauft the hononts of the Peerage, I and anticipate that four ce of influence in a degree 1 which, by a fair cut tion of the prerogative on that I ground, would not be required in ten years. The Hon. Member concluded by °braving, that he hoped the Houle this night viontflinet he intimidated from fpeakinit its honelt fentirtrents.by the menace of di(. folution held out on a former 11: , glit bee one of his I Majelly's Secretaries of State. Heorufled the Houk would know how to eflimate fuch:Orn intuit, and ti treat it with the contempt and indignalion it deferved It was a procedure which a wrong government would defpile, and of which a weak government ought to be athamed. He voted for the original motion. Mr. HAWKINS BROWNE, in alpeech of coo fiderable length, fupported theequeftion for the Orate •of the Day. He denied there was any proof that his Majesty's prefent Miniflers -Owed their Illations to their fignature of any pledge-refufed by their pro dece(fors. But even if he were to underhand the{ I had come into place, upon the imputed pledge Of never advifino 6 the grant of ' any farther indulgences to to the . Roman Catholics of Ireland, upon that very 20004.4 .on no other, he wtoold titre them bi fupport.. He thought. it the bietinclin-ilutyrof tfe Miniftert of the Crown netrer to - Prop:shown ettebalite i to Parliament to which his Majefly's ccutfent.w.aemt I previou fl y fignifleci..The cippofite pleurae:le woul d I - • itectuce the Legiflature to the Henries .of -Lords gel Commons. and deny .the power.Of the King to ride ) his affent to a law, or to diffohre the Parliament' He cortlidered the prefent qtrehion not Merely that which it purported to be, but a quellipn whetherhis Mejefly'e prefent Minitters (herald lee forced from their fituations, and 'their predeceffiers forced up' his Moistly, againfl his conient, and the exercife of his prerogative. • . But he. woo:dee/aver cnnfent t i purchefe any advantage at firth a price. .He could i I not fee the force of the Ofejentienes .ir t a a r in n fl e the . appeira mem' of a eight tronoilrable oaf_ 'e 4.Geutlerna to the Office of Clen , eollo 0 r ,ti t he tee:wittier. The futility of lush an o t oinellon rank lea obvious, if du Houfe recolfeled that the . illottriotes Statcfman who not long fence filled that office (Mt. Pitt) came IS it front the year books of 'Lincoln's-Inn a and credo ittfentlia the Righilinoterable and Leeined Gotta Min, with. fei inany.fears.ascro of Profe - ffional prailicn ..would-not be ineligibk for the fteuatioa. Tinef - 1 ono urObie Mr. "M'DON A LI3 (poke ift'fb • your of theorikinal inwion, antllfeetaaccrhis warasei approbation of the concluanlis Majesty's late fin tuners, whore ludden difrniffal from office, at leo' ment.fo critical to•this country• and, to the foe 01 Europe, he lamented - as 'a national misfortune. Mr. TIGHE felt it to be hit ditty, as beloneng to that part of the Empire where the ciefutiffal ofthe tate Miniftry was the fakr% of _deep and univerfal regret, to hate hisupinion on the qualm before the, Houle. In whatever light he viewed the conetunot ribat Adminitiratitia doting the (bort time they were h in e p t o e w n ri er d , c it e w d a t s he e i n r ti e tl e e on d t o o m h y is i a n in t ‘ h rteb p a t t i l u b n lie . W e x h e t c lr ad he i. ei nett, their probity in the arrangement of the finances, ilb• _ - their firmnefs, vign the war, the getter every other branch they were entitled t They had, it is true but it was long en; gratitude of the na enough for their ov long enough to pre of their country. Satis fi Confidering the pri niters came in, it his fupport. For 146;4, it was either not to fir a great did not come in they did on under Cat a vi jelly up the upon thefe tetms, from the people of 'opes were held of 'ious to the Union Ihould be effected, -difcuffed with tem Vomit-es, the Uni In order to prom the Btflops were the Kieft', and th people. The pre them into power, principles with ref principle of eterna land, at prefent, member of the po frame ; but, let it the cripple would the (word in defer cartons to Cathol fiftency which pr; was at a lofs to d admitted in &at fhould be coafider in Ireland. He re fling his appri Minifters, and o which the prefent The Hon. Mr. head of the ha Mr. Pitt in the ID probated by the spoken. He coul Han. Friend, bec qualified approba the late Minitters, condo& which he admit he was in I he could not con' tion. To their lions; nor was I, lures of finance. conduct of Gave the late Secretat molt rafh and • teemed to have hody. Confitu Government co difcipline, fur in cers,they had di As to any apprt confequence of Councils, he wa for it. He had the prefent Mini ciliation with ref low that the latt him in common ted it, he did a ccunt to oppof give his vote fo The Hon. 11 large and popu the Houfe with of the Catholic and had nothir however take tl Bill for the ad; navy bad been it his warmeß ever, that the great obligatio They brought a more compre much doubted themfelves mu whether they fubter fug,. 4 which prevails lower claffes, • tion. What, 'tion do to ren motions whit that part of tl the original n . Mr. ROSC .his entire app Wion, which to conciliate three or fr firerigth. 11 'winced it wou the part of tl popery at thi .that we had wiflied to reafon, or co and did all and out of .office upon into power I looked to th nitration, i fupport. S fome of the tried, and h the courfe - been made for of the E been carries were not en given of hi the Comm tereaednel The prate known out both by th