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v ,_~ ,•. ... , • i $:1; . • ";'. PARLMMENTARr PROCEEDINGS.. HOUSE or-LoaDs, MAY I. Conine! was heard and, evidence produced at thellsr Milanlf • Mrs Drift, 'Mom h r her.proceedings were postponed. Earl GREY preowned sr:Petition from Mrs.-Dyett, cesapiainv tog thy a sufficient allowance' was n o t granted's° her in the e tr o menr of aepsratinn anti divorce. and calling' on their Lord skips for justice in That case- • . The Earl of LAVDER/MLE• istretident of iha House to a Petition which load heed jtin.4nhh hh hands in behalf of a Mr. Dunn, complainiLg of snood hardships ishkh he hid, endorsed intiler Pro process, but which Ids lorildsjp conceived to lie a gross and unwarranted libel un,t/te cotillion end 'character of Lord .Elleriborouflt. 'He felt It to tit • so iiideh In explanation of his haling (than' tilt .. Kaden to pin imo his hands as a M e mbe• of Parliament,. • . - • The Petition of etrirse was noi.zeieietai... * Lord HOLLAND Presented I Petition `Henry Mahns. ! u, prsti:ing that .au. biventlits, which belted, fralltri and presented to the Ail:stiraby . Board,'Ser At e trelyvaiitirt . of he lives of nutty nt die King's initileer s sylip might be exposed in theierils of shipwreck, should to tftily the siid Board, in order to his °hatpin% the reward Ole to lit i tiabourk lord )ItRING bur r testis:pity to the inery .I t tee unity of Mr. Whitson, which he bad last . yi t iar anogettilihy of I:tins:lig into practice ant successful, rote, arid he • voida then mate, that no boat's crew, under Lis conin.tindAr inittiante, should ever go o u t Uroproifitied Web Mr Mahn:ores apparatus. lord. MELVII.I.E Ayres d, that Mr. Valinsou's plan had been received by the Admiralty, but that it was by mons a new invention. It had not, howevsr, been rsjected, and 'maid not fault', receive all proper attention front theisoards RaifAL NUPTIALS. . The Ferri of LIVERPOOL iihoulti•uot rake ep,intich.of their 'Lt.rdshirs' time in what he had to nay. Tbere was, .he knew, a canntuy and uniform Seeing 'on the subject HP meant the occasion of a idiessivg the Royal Family on the teen, 0610 1 ot"' nu p ti a l*, which presioted every prospect of solid happiness to the country, as well as to the illustrious personages immediately concerned. His Lord-hip then moved, • That an Address of congratulation on the Marriage of her: Royal Highness the Princess Charlotte of Wales with his Serene Highness the Prince of Saxe Cobeurg , be presented severally to the Prince Regent, her Majesty, and .to the Princess Charlene and the Prince Cosourgs The Motions, &thusly pus. were agreed to unanimously. CATAIOLICIL The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented sPeddos from the Roman Catholics of :he County of Limerick, eotnplaining of the h zr dships which they endured trusts the legal disabes that pressed upon them, and praying relief from the same.—The Peti tion was ordered to lie he the T,able. ENGLISH AND IRISH =CHROME& The Marquis of LANSDOWNE felt it his duty to call the attention of their Lordship* to a subject of vast importance, as involving no less a- concern than the financial efficiency of Great Britain aid Ire land. He had in the last Sessioa moved that a Mes sage should be sent to the other Heuse of Parliatuem, requesting information item the Committee of that House, relative to the grounds on which the •Exche, qurrs of the two Countries had beeri•managed: ; The Message had been scot,* but . no inforriatioa, was in - consequence supplied. It certainly belonged to the -House of Commons to use its own distretion in that case, thinieh he -believed it was ridni:1•::1100litthl tti witbt;old the information desired. • I; wuei inipo,sibie for their Lordships to contemplate duly aliyhjtct such itoportancerwithout full information, especially' at so late period of the Sesiioo.: He eft itll.l79•erel; fore mot first, for an accouot: of the aunt* of penal. ties incurred in Ireland on the ground _of illicit, diet:' tilteres ; secondly, •ferinr account a the reai ••••te ut. erchangnbetWeen the ttvo countries ; antf, , et, . fur an account of the number of Bank ItititeS'isstisd . in a time ,-pecified. by the tank of .Ireland ; ' . great i coovenience•of the want of *L00311360 scan, dard of exchange was tit% cticcOmmercial men, and ought, as soon as poisibte,.tfi be reinedigits mid he entertained no doubt, the Noble Fort opposite would agree with him in the expediency and :the no: cessity of such a measure. There was, in tact, no more occasion for, a different standard between Eng-1 , land and Ireland than there was for such a clifereoce between one county and another in England. The burden praised heavily on Ireland, and every eir comstance considered of the comparative - means of the two countries, it was but fit and equitable that some portion of the overburdens of the Slater country stiould be borne by this. ' The Earl of LIVERPOOL had no desire to resist *e motions of the Noble Marquis. He fully agreed with that Noble Lord in the importance which had been ascribed to' the subject. As to the omission -.on* the part of the othet House to supply the in. formation desired by their Lordships, .he had not previously been apprised of it, but be certainly , thought that. full information was requisite for the benefit as well as the satisfaction both: of England and Ireland. • • • • " • • 'Elte• Earl of LIMERICK commended.the liberal 'spirit end language • set forth , by the Noble Marquis, as well as by the Noble Earl who spoke last, and ' Ittay agreed in the 'propriety of the motiOni.. , • , The Earl of LAUDERDALE should net take • up mucla of their Lordships' time; but ou tobe , subject • of Currency and Exchange," be could not •ornit that occasiOn4 .eau sing his earnest wish that the ad vantage* of paymentsin cash should be restored to the Public as soon as ossible..• Under the present c ir c umstances of England and Ireland , s ite was ' utterly .impossible to fix a common standard of eminency ;.. and.that imposaibility arose out of the* fact; of copper being the only coinage in Ireland, .and that copper coinage ; being redticedin its value in theproportion ottsd. to Is. _ It certaialy s was desirable that a fixed awl equitable standard thcluld be. establol4l, sad if same measure fpr.lhat purpose should DOS .10011 be brought befor Parliament by some other itlemis,,,lse. should introduce a Ballo that effect. • The Marquis of LANSDOWNE'S "motions ., . watts thee severally put, and agreed.to. . • • WIDGETS AND MEAIVRIL . Upon the Order 'of the Day fir the - setoodssasnos,' of the Weights and Measures , Ent STANHOPE rose. lie G 0114• I.oloer•Ohsisb; eody. with what he felt to-be his duty, altow . of etch a nature, so base, so inconsiderate, so unscieutfic. .so improper, and so absurd as it was thrtnighout, to , prated without some animadversion.; He should avail himself of the authority of a learned and • miens man (Dr. Hutton)," who, in a letter to him, bed expressed, . with • great truth and propriety, 'the trOngest disapprobation and contempt for the Bill it queAion. Every principle on which` it professed to proceed was wrongly set forth. In the statement of: measures, whether of length or capacity, nothing was to be fr ond ton sist e st either with scienti fi c know: •i• ledge •or a - regard to common Convenience. ,He had sectored sr variety of letters front tradesmen iii ciao, sent quarters, all complaining of the folly and, absui like asnce , of the Bill. There was nothin oil in con traction of dm Bill. The sci meetals, ! aad PritlgopeVita YtiM'e uosfettoiled. brass, ata Irma were coofettodedi .1) , ; got thag ca was the best of itandard wici bKi. It vies •surious, 'Worth their LOrdips' Altestlton; that existed. and • bad been for yews suppo ininiter, where weights and measures were stamped' without any examination as to their real properties.' Measures with falle bottoms, • weights unexamined, all. were .sanetiotted .with the official stamp. of * Westminster Office. . There was one material point ffeliting to Measgrell which their .Lordshiple ought to fiddle of. There was a great difference: between measure full mid. heaped, but the Bill acknOWledged obssich differettce... The principle! adopted . by the, Governig,C.nt, eansell, that of decitual - rule, ought to be adopted genMally, arid appeared to be she only safe rid sliregiiide of proceedihg upon.— The scientific,..eir rather, as he.should cal it, the un scientific Bill, set.torth that the difficilty arose fesnia" there beuig " fro fixed standard in nature tor ths propose." ,Butdid they endeavour to sdpply that itetect of Oaturel • No, no such thing. They did itriiiiing of the kina,, 'nor':knew nothintai the kind. 4'hexottOt to have supplied,and fortified their feeble ,aisderstanding with the intelligence Which surround atel them. The French had-reduced the principle 19 clear and distinct points—the heiglith of the therms., meter end the pendulum. Hi's . L.ordship concluded by moving, that the second 'reading of the Bill be . postponed to that day six months.. • Alter "a few • observations from Lord MELviLut,, trig mobvD was agreed to. • • ... • . It was agreed, however, upon the motion ofllle Marquis If LANs!) , WNK, th s an Address should be presented to the CroWn, for the appointtacnt of a Committee of scientific men . to examine the ques tion, and to report their,ptoceedings to the lousa•-•• Adjourned. HOUSE OP COMMONS. • Mr. &lout ONNI.OW postponed his Motion concerning the intere , t Laws, to Thursday the usd. A Petition from the loot- epers in the neighbourhood of Ill'ideby, against the inmost') License Duey, was laid ea the table. - - Mr. liortio, from the Colonial Department, brought up Accounts of tholuantity of I obacco imported.—Lid en the table. Mr. Biter, .frrYn the Bank, brought up an Account of the number of dank-11.4es in circulation up to Siturday last, and of the fury:: Sank-tares refused to bJ paid.—laid on the table General i NON t'ON moved that the Papers be printed.-- :awe were &Al, •tto last year of those forged Bank-notes, and thls , year it was probable they would he £lO,OOO. He thought, by a proper caution, tie di ffi culty of &riling could be-so much istcrasati as to be almost a 'nevelt:ion. Mr. W. smaki said, that the Bank bad used all their Inge -nutty' td try to devise sumerktit Dr litt to prevent forger/ in vain. He, hOwe'vetrd woukl'hot oppose the thothrn. . . Atter stow words (rune Mr. Coawan, Mr. SWAMIS, Mr. Pear lus, and (lateral l'uouterou, the Motion Was agreed w e a.thi lie . semi's ordered•M be printed. ' Mr. tiliZ49ol% presented retitiolisfrom the Tanneri of Louth aunt Warwick, agal st the Le at her [UT and from l'ivertan, against any alteration 311 die Woown Trade.—laid ci,, the table. htieW:SMI I il renewed user dropped notice irspectiog toe taitott. in Aid, tot the 10th ioataot - • • ' Sir EA;kItIUN !WY i/Gtii moved fee leave Sebring sn two dills, to amend the At.. felltllle to the Pour, and to'lbe removal of Paupers. Ihe subject was very toteresting to'humaiiity, as ebb Paupers stilf.red must cruet hardships dosing and. alter their I aninal• kk W4liitki tat they khould no• be temnied nil their 'jars. Was .011ein ,sitird. • I tenon's. of removal hi also wished, snast4 tpi. are. IST pariah resnotns. ask would be er.las•A on the wail:. l.• I ,ire. watit•tu deiate of Parishes to seniors ?sows ideavegrailio,. • Ike -.4f.ii *ere then brotight in and read aam time, and after' alhet'vrostus atom Mr• LuawaN and Mr Z. Barsaas, ordered ‘tel - los lead - isecond tune on Wedatei,.sy sesunight. Mr UAlfilsh tilLibli obtasuro leave to bangle a Bill to re moter dthiculties in comments. unetulas weans* Wont mines; he also obtained leave to bring is a bin to etiabie Corporations to adenine Lands, to enlarge Vintners's and Chunk-yard., stole Mr. HUSKINsON obtained leave to brio' in a Old to aolood the Act of last Saigon, for Paving and Lighdog tM new atm% opposite to Carlton Houle. Mr, CALVERT wished to know from the Chan cellor 9f the Exchequer, whether any thing would be done with regard to the increased license duties I • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that a plan was in contemplation to render the burdens less heavy. Sir J. NEWPORT said, that he saw a Material 'alteration in the Malt ,Duty Drawbaclßill from what it was as first prestnted to the House, and he wished to know the reason. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he was not aware that any alteration had been made, or could be made, before the Bill NM into a Committee. The SPEAKER thought, thft the subject Was very important, and ought to be taken ioto ima►s. dente consideration. The alteration of a* Bill, after• it Was presented to the House, was a breach of privi lege. The Right Honourable Baronet, if he did his duty, ought immediately to move for a Committee to take the subject into consideration. • , Sir J. NEWPORT explained that the alteration was in the draft of the Bill, w►ich he had seen in the office. • The SPEAKER said, that there might be, with. out any breach of priiilege or propriety, an altera tion in the draft of a _Bill, and therefore wished that the Right Honourable Baronet, whom he thanked for his vigilance, would take no farther Seep for the present, till there should be time for inquiry. Mr. LUSHINGTON signified that the. Sheri tion was only in the office draft; in which he was supported by the CHMICILLOR of the EXCUIQUZIL Mr. BROUGH4grished to know whether there existed any crisis or circumstances in . the •Isle of France, which justified the forcible sending of per. i son' out of it ? fie asked this question, because be knew a person who was seat home from that colony, and kept . s close prisoner for 139 days, and whii, on application to the •Government here, was told . he might return, but hat - Ss. a day, which had been allowed for his support, stopped. He.wisbed also to know the reason of this stoppage ? . • Lord CASTLEREAGti withal $ NAY giving an-answer. " " • . ABDUCTION 01 ISTABLIIIIMISTP• • • Lard ALTHORPE, in rising ao make the nso. Lion of which he lied given notice, tor a Committee to inquire into the Public Offices. with a-view to the re duction of establishments, felt that it was not fleas. miry for him to go muck into detail: The present distress of the country was sigreat, that every . per son acknowledged the necessity of the strictest mop amity. But to relieve this distress, it was not Mali savings would be suffi.Cient. The people of'the coun try' ought to be satisfied that every tossible retrench ; :tient was adopted h e helloed that bythe - adop. tion Of such retrenchment very considerable sir lags toil* I very Am &ding he . '"ukted - his liikters, but attention ro expected they arse perhaps bis view might have been so et-- pessaries as lo justify their inattentir:i ; but as he con sekitionsly fielieved that the retrenchment which he rimed out couldbe adopted without any inconve *nee to the public, apd would be productive of eery great savings, he considered it his duty 'to move kit the Committee of whi6 he had g i ven tiotice.— He wished tl:at the Committee should inquire* into All the Yoblie Offices, and that it they found any of them, or the situations in them, inefficient; they would tit to the House. He should not go in to the r allt of patronage ; •and he begged to assure the House, that he acted from no feelings of party or prejudice, but (rem what he considered his duty to the public demanded. ii 1786 a Committee had been appointed for the same purpose for which he now wished one to be held, and it had carefully and diligently exeiniiiee into all the den atments, with , great laboer to itself, hut with miich eilisiaction to l 'that House end to the country. . Szvcral Committees lied been held on the same suok.et between that year . d 1798, one particularly in 17:45, which had greatly .exerted itself. lei iSO6 there had been another which Dead expiessed itself very etrongly against the most gross abuses which it discovered. There were many abuses, however, which had not been touched upon by those. ComMittees, which had been augmented for lupwards of musty years. It was for the examine :ion and reform of these that he was principally Anxious that a Committee should sit ; and upon , such abuses he could scarcely see how. the House Lanai' refuse a thorough investigation. And it should be recollected, that he wanted the investigation at a dine when economy was necessary in every depart- Latent, and when it had been promised by the Prince Regent in his Speech front the Throne, at the com mencement of the Session. In the discussion on the office of Third Secretary of State, an Honourable Member had said, when it was suggested as p?oper, that part of one office should be fulfilled by another, that the business wee already so great, that it was impossible to make the alteration proposed ; whilst another Honourable Member, equally well acquain ted with the office in question, said, that the business of both offices might very well be done wader one se• perintendAnt. Suela a difference of opinion with Gentlemen who knew the different situations,-was a very strong reason indeed for entering upon the in quiry which he wished the Home to grant a Com- Imittee for prosecuting. It was necessary to examine into the state of all offices, and the most convenient and impartial mode . 0 examining into them would be, to have a Select Committee appointed from the House. The conduct of Government should be par ticularly remarked on this • subject ; scarcely two days after he had given notice'of hi% present motion, a Cuttinsittee had been appointed by the 'nesse,: y, nominally for the very same purpose for which he was so anxious to have a Committee- appainzed by the House. Hit had been before he had given notice, hr should have bad the-same opinion of that Com mittee as he now entertained. Was there any ap: pearance of use redemption of the pledge which had' been given to the country for a general reduction ? Had not - salaries been increased instead of dimini shed ? Had his Majesty's Ministers ever shown die least inclination towards economy till it was Abso lutely forced upon them by the House ? The House had promised to promote retrenchment: that pro mise ought to be redeemed, and it ought to be the ditty of every man to forward its redemption. The Noble Lord concluded by moving — " That a Select Committee be appointed to examine and ',insider what ;amine or diminution there has been since 1798 in the number et amount of the salaries and emoluments of the Public Offices ; and that they re port from time to time what farther measures can be taken without detrimeut to the public service." The CHANCELLOR of 'the EXCHEQUER, after All he had beard stated from the Noble Lord, did not think, that any grounds bad been alleged on which a just suspicion might be entertained Against Mitustirs. He had said, that no reduction had taken place whatever; he was ready to 'hew there had; and if he shewed this, it would be plain that the No ble Lord was under e great mistake. He had moved for a Committee to inquire into the increase or dimi nution of salaries and of offices since 1798. It woulli be plain how superfluous the Committee was-when it was known that returns had been annually laid befint the House, by whieb the amount and difference of the salaries at different mimes would he distinctly seep, . and that by taking these returns in on one 'point of view, the Noble Lord would be enabled to judge of What reductions bad taken place, eind'etebat xeduc. dons would take place. He was very tar indeed 'from thinking that the inquiry wished for by the Nuble Lord would be useless; on the contrary, ha ima- ' shied that suchUtt Inquiry would be productive of the most beneflcialeffects; but he could not think that this was exactly the time for pressing such a pro-' position, nor couldbe think that the inquiry would be made so well as by his Majesty's Ministers themselves. In the year 1782, and from that time to 1798, a succession of enquiries bad been made respecting va rious suspected guises, and though the Committees had not bad perhaps their expected effect, they were ,beneficial in one way ; 'they operated to keep down new anctexpeniive establishments; and, if it had not been for them, it was evident that many of the branches of the war expenditure would have been much larger if those Committees had not existed.— He hoped the Noble Lord would me the propriety of leaving thilenquiry in the bands of those respectable Gentlemen whose business it was to exarnineinto the abuses, and that he would not attempt .to bring a motion forward for a Committee at so late a period of the Session. He would ask the Noble Lord and the House, whether, when 'the Committee had moved for, Mid before they had received returns to their in quiry, the Session would not. be' drawing nearly to a close I Besides, it ought to be remembered, that a Committee on ibis subject tended to remove the me sponiibility' of Ministers from iliem, and to lay the burden on the Committee. He did not by any means wish to direct the opinion of the House, or to pre, judge the question, but merely to remind 'them that 'as it we's', the pledge of . Ministers would rernain in full force, and they would be answerago•for Its• re demptioni whereas, with the Committee it Would be I ffe•ii ' le . , . . entirely otherwise. Seek on investigation, he though; .m 6 better ender the more immediate direction et his Majesty's Government, as, from every e i nm e. - Fe an ces it eyelike he a very dfficult mete r iteleed for a Select Committee, to go the 'ugh with such an ee qUiry as rapidly as was necessary. Great al terat i onl had been made In public offices. •fnent• time in tiese the war had brought about great chan7,es-th e pu expenditure was increased unevoidebly, an d ~,,h;t l . way soever the Committee ettiglit proceed, th e pri g , ciple by which they • would be gutded, of reduce. as far as 'was censistent - with public safety, %r ee l still continue the same. The House might b e aware chit the reductions which had been made since nice- conclusion of the peace, were larger, and bum about inn shorter time than on any frame r e t et eb e it *occasion-inn& when every thing :hewed t h at G ; vernment were in a fair way of returning to the r- ' detation of a peacoestablishment, Was th ere to b e . °,. Select Committee to unhinge the whsle o f the pr- ." ceedings, and to destroy the rent %seek of econtirn;• which, it 'would he seen by theflouse shorle, had beeu so successfully commenced i Considerelik re . trenchments had eiready been made ;n tee offi ce , o f 'the three Secret tries of St.te, in the offic e „f 11 , Cmmiairder in Chief in the War-o ffice, in th e reg of Agent General, and 'in she' Army Board, In the N av y Board there had been, a reduction of upwards of se400,(00 e in the Cotondieseriet Department they: had been a seduction cf dt14,000; in the Victililli.e, • Office *5e25,000 had been saved; and the Ttansp e ti Of f ice had been entirely abelislreel.• Thesereee st i one were made where it 'was perceived by n .....Tmernrnertt that they were absolutely necessary, and ho w ea , i t to be expected that a Committee should act whh any of the necessary dispatch, which only acted as it were by second hand ? The reductions which he ha stated were only part of one plan which Minister were pursuing, and he hoped that much more wo u ld be done during the present year than had breath ready accomplished. These reductions were not eil *I lay applicable to parliamentarrforms, whilst they could be made with the greatest expedition by the method which had already been adopted. Circulars had been seat to all the heads of the departments, who had attended or would attend the Committee who ems sitting, and they had proceeded tin reduce all the war salaries and esteblishmeties which were unnecessary in time of peace. He agreed in the views of the Noble Lord in general, though he conceived it to be much better to 'IIAV r no Committee, such as he had moved for at present. The Right Hon. Gentlemss concluded by moving the previous question. Lord MILTON rose to support the original Mo. Lion, and 'observed, that lie ceeld not place the same sonfideoce in the discretion oreiecision of Govern. ment that the Right Honourable Gentleman did; he was therefore anxious for the appointinent of a Com. mittee. When Government were left to their own course, for example, they were determ . itted to pursue the Property Ta x.-(clear, hear, hear.) When they were left to•their -owe discretion, •it was f, unit nem. sary to beet them out of the larger Estimates which they first proposed.-(Hear, hear.) 'Tice Right Ifo. nottrabie Gentleman had gone through the reductions . to the Public Departmeets r for the eriacipel one the £400,000 in te. Navy Office-the Public would doubtless, be graueui. But all those redections ie. (erred to the clerks and underlings of office, and not to those quarters to which the Public looked fitr a reduction-namely, the higher and more important, in point of anteunt, breeches of official service branches that involved much of the real evil *bid was the cause of compkint -en evil not alone of a pecuniary nature, but which was equally tett from the character of its influence.-(Heee, hear.) The ' Noble Lord then referred to the luntibous .. e eirch of Mr. Burke, in the introduction of his plan of retorts, in 1780, and observed bpun iliedifference between the measures then adopted and the original intention of the great Reformer. Whatever distresses had fol• lowed the American war, which at that time had tete minated, they could not haye exceeded those - of the present times. Here he begged to observe, that the relief intended to be tendered (so Far as he under. stood it) to the 'Agricultural Interest,- was not likely to be effectual ; on the contrary, he• feared that the sudden rise in the price would be attended with equally fatal consequences. -(Hear, hear.) On the Point of responsibility, where would be the harm of superseding that of Ministers on this occasion? or if the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) and his cnlleagues under the Treasury Commission were the best persons . . . . ,eo.assist , in the inquiry, why .not unite them in the oppointment-of a Committee ? The benefit of their itreeperitence would then be felt: they would form a tent of fox for the hounds to follow in the pursuit of the game of grievance. .But where would be the slit: -kith, in the business :of this .Committee ? They could, as well as the Noble Lord and his colleeetwe call f ur returns from the heids of departments. Bete he could not hnt.allude to the particular moment it which the Noble Lord's Committee w..s appointed.- ' it was the 'day . after his Noble Friend ( Lord Althorp) had gieennotice of' his intention to call for inquiry (Hear, hear.) If Ministers had seriously iatended in. quint, why riot, when that notice was given, have intimated that intention ? 'filey bad not done so; and it was therefore to be inferred, that his Noble Friend's notice had either suggested, et- at least ace. ,located, their proceeding in• this respect. (Iltar.)Il 1 was needless for him to impress upon the House de importance of the Petitions which had been presestel by the People : nothing had been done by the Hose ,to redress the grievances of which they complained. They had no right to consign to Government Ile gracious task which was imposed on themselves... (Hear, heir, hear.) It would be unnecessary now to point out the particular offices to which the public attention had•been called. He might, however, 11- lade to the junior Lords of the Admiralty; but 110 it would be touching a tender chord-it, would he trenching upon the prerogatives of some cf the man a powerful families in the country-an meths_ which the Minister, who called for the undisturb ed confidence of Parliament in his reductions, knew be could not attempt.-(//ear.) The Noble Lord tbea enforced the alarming increase of the intlueoceef to . Crown, which necessarily arose out of the durstior of; war. • The House knew the increase of o 'which this.war brought with ie-the number of Lor . , of the Admiralty and the Treasury who were 931 for their services in that House. 'Tie Noble L° may look around him.-ILerdCastlereagh herpes!' 'at this : time to look Witter& the seats behind 0, Ts; a s sure Buttch.]- Bt* be well knew tho . neceadt ha d _ l t h;gti -- In thr ly 1 Of 1 thei nio -' •f' •ii::: - -- . P. ' ia.. r • • • 11,000 1 04 he . greeted. 'go 14.04 . -mia I and it , liiii ' 44 .- Wilriteathe octasion, of by hantit a +arta )1' all foarerbsio , ' Ilia subject. : On li faimeteecasiun ho' ,s, and was w•• Irlaws on, the subject tolis Majesty's Min that an °Ewell' . Orel did.not appear toAsay;any great at apported in West. his representatias. Inclied he scarcely 'sr; Irp. were stamped' would, and perhaps his . view miglst have] ... ~~. r - , . .