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• . ~~ yi ` ~ • r , 1 k I 1 7 . ••• it ‘g i ,~ PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. PAPERS RELATIVE O T THE INTERNAL STAT& VIE COUNTRY. TAIIIMPTiII ON WET/MADAN TO TNT 110081 ON COMMONS, AND THUS& 144 Wise" To ono SWUM ON toils,ev_coamous 011111 aritrAll utoautoso Tlli CLIIiCBAPAGNNT. • (Continued from our Paper of Yesterday.) I Vt. The information of R. S. that some called WlOllllOl said,' . its his hearing, when he pretended to be asleep, " that it was their intention to rise in the night, upon the Ist day of' November, . and that it was to he done al l t hrou g h the country, and they would divide tfie property among them :" and that two persons told him, 'i• thist.44 blacksmith at Pickley Green was busy making pikes." ik.This informant did not know the said per sons, but from theielanguage he onderstooffthat the pikes were I to be used to kill the •Gedtlemen, and to take their property. 64. Letter from the Mayonof Newcastle, of 17th October, giving an accoont of the riot of the keeknon at Shields, when one man was shot by the Marines. tiS. Letter from Mr. Norris : Ifonckester, October 21, 1819. Me Loin—From ere •y quarter the universal information and opinion is, that the people are in a great measure armed, and are continually, and as quickly as possible, and as extensively arming and are sent . It is strongly surmised that pikes have been, from Birmingham in boxes, and I have put this matter in.a train of investigation. I fear, also, my Lord, it is hut too true that many hundreds of small priced pistols have been sold in this town within a very short period, and that the lower classes are purchasing them in great numbers.-11 have the honour to be, my Lord, . Your Lordship's faithful humble servant, Lord Viscount Susasoursr , &e. &c. J. NORRIS. 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71. Examinations of T. U.—U. V.—V. X. —X. ' Y.—Y. Z.—and ***, relative to the manufacturing of pikes at Mellor, at Haslinden Grain, and at Rawtenstali, last month, as then stated in the STAIt. 72. Letter Flom the Duke of Hamilton: . Hamilton Palace, November 6, 1819. Me Loan—l have to acknowledge your Lordship's two let ters of the Ist and 2d of November, on the subject of the Yeo manry Cavalry, and will endeavour to give every effect to the same ; your Lordship holding always in view what I before said of the great difficulty attending it. To the natural difficulty at tached to the situation of the Farmer, Ste. in this country, there appears now a novel one, pioceedingfrom the alarm excited by those who compose the various and numerous Meetings in this district of country. In regard to the general state of affairs, your Lordship bas other sources of information, perhaps better than mine ; but were I to nature to offer an opinion of my own, I should say, that the state of men% minds is such at this moment, that the most trifling irritation would load to disturbance; and should any violence commence, there arc no means, nor should I be able to counteract it. As the Meeting of Parliament will occasion my absence from the Country ere long, I must repeat to your Lordship, that this neighbourhood continues in a state of extreme distress---gene rally in want of employment, and under a considerable degree of agitation; all of which appear more likely to increase than di minish. If, therefore, your Lordship should have any particu lar communication to make to me, or any directions to give con nected with the public service in this country, I am anxious to receive the same before my approaching departUrer which will probably take place in about eight or ten days. I have the honour to be, my 'Lord, Your Lordship's most obedient and most humble servant, , . (Signed) II A MILTON and BRANDON. To Viscount Sidmouth, &c. dcc. ice. 73. Another Letter, from the same to the same, stating, that the Farmers, arc. required to act as Constables or Volunteers, though disposed to do so, were deterred from it by the menaces , e their neighbours. 74. Letter from a Deputation from the Parish of Monkland, inclosed in the foregoing, and stating the fact alluded to. IS. Letter from the Earl of Glasgow, to Lord Sidmouth, 9th November, giving an account of the " Unions," and Reform Meetings in Renfrewshire. 76. Extract of a Letter from Colonel Horton : Habfar, November 9, 1819. Sta—lt was expected that great numbers of persons would from here attend the Meeting . at Huddersfield yesterday, but it was thought sufficient to close the alehouses at eight o'clqck. It does seem to me, however, that a most outrageous breach of.the peace was effected last night hate. In truth. all we can expect is, that on the next occasion. absolute plunder and the.. struction of property, and perhaps of life, will be the come %w-. e. This is the natural and obvious march of the spirit dot pervades this part of the' country. I inclose, for Lord Sidmouth's information, copies of she exa minations I 'have taken. It is my intention to apprehend the parties, and if the complaint be proved, to commit them. or hold them to bail to answer at the next ,Astizes. To M. Hommuu., Esq. See. THOMAS HORTON. 77, 78. Depositions of a John Elderly and D. Mallensest, re- • lative to the Huddersfield Meeting; 19. Letter from Mr. Norris: • Mastchater,November 10, 1819. Mr Loan—The state of this town and neighbourhood remains much the same as when I last wrote to your Lordship. On Sunday last, between six and eight o'clock, a pistol loaded with ball was fired into the lodgings or sitting room of a Mr. Muuie, who gave•evidenee before the Coroner, on the Inquest of John Lees, as to the attack of thi mob on the Manchester Yeo nry. On Monday night, about eleven o'clock, a pistol, load with slugs, was fired into one of the bed-rooms of Mr. Thomas rd man's house, in Quapatreet ; but.fortunately, without injury; and twp , ot three other instances of the firing of pistols, with malicious intent. have also occurred. I mean, ultimately, to milled the instances, on oath, for your Lordship's information. I much fear they will Increase before the meeting of Parliament, and most likely in a degree to cation the Legislature to interfere. Meetings still continue to be though notthis immediate in neighbourhood. One was beat Wigan, about twenty miles distant, and another at ' Hudeld, distant twenty-six milt* en Monday last, bath -large Meetings. I have the honour to be, my Lord, your Lordship's faithful and humble servant, Lord Viscount SIIBIOIITH, &C. J. NORRIS. SO. Letter from Dr. Whitaker BlaCkburn, November 10, 1819. Mr -Loan--I have thought it expedient to transmit to your Lordship, drawings of-different pikes, which have been seized in • this neighbourhood, for the purpose of removing the incre dulity which even yet seems to prevail in some minds as to their existence. 1 mast now request your Lordship's attention to another sub ject of immediate and urgent importance. . - It is the general opinion, that the spirit of the Reformers, as they e ntitle themselves, is on the decline — an o p inion g rounded solely on their present quiet and silence. I have strong reasons for thinking very differently. For, in the first place; pikes continue to be made and circulated daily, in different parts of the country, and with perfect impunity, as, in consequence of former seizures, the makers will sell to none but known friends, and will enter into no conversation with strangers (excepting in a single instance) on the subject. I have the ho nour to bc, Ste. T. D. WHITAKER. 'fo Lord Viscount Sanuouve. bl. Letter from the Earl of Damns, 11th November, giving an account of the Wigan Reform Meeting. gi. Letter from the Berousbreeve anti Constables of Man chester, of 12th November, relative to the attempt made to asses coate Mr. Nadir. 83. Relates to the Burnley Reform Meeting, when many of lt? Reformers had pistols, which they fired, on their return -.1...rne. A pike handle was taken from one of them. at. Letter from Sir John Dyne lam.Vrect, Member 18. 1819. Me Loaf--I have the honour is report to your Lordship the result of suck information as I have received in the several journies 1 have made since I left town, and from creditable au thority in other places. It appears certain that simultaneous Moir Ind boo *greed upon to assemble en the Ist of this month, ail *mew tle-niern-tigne, at Carlisle, at Leeds, Halifax, Iludessildikand gamily, hi tie West Riding of Yorkshire ; at Meneleseter, Bel ton, Wigan, Blackbows' and Burnley, in ancashire • i at New -4e-soder-I.yme, at Nottingham,. at Leicester, and at Co- I have beard other places named, but not from sock f that I can name them la this Report : ear do I men.' meetings in Logsdon, in ficutlend, ssd. in plow not in :mantles composing the district In which I hold thie nail enuaaand. Meetings kid very lately been held in almost all the above f!) • - ;entry.. autberitl tine the , Op, Cow tart' ere M !, ii 4', tamed towuhdetel • upon for th e 10 isitaat Ott MT, S i had some partkile/ -In view. Althoogif a actiest the hodcis has pretested these Meetings, pet lo and same few towns where disat. feetion baelserprevailed, no difference appears, and the num e :. ben o f discontented remain undim inished; but lit places Wher it is of less mature existence, a most desirable check, from vu mous causes, has been effected; but It would be fetal to /is aR• nibilatlen in them, if there was yet any relaxation of our sten-. dun, and of means to suppress it entirely : a similar false seCa ection city at times within the las t three years,has brought disaff to its present height in Lane/ sh ip, the vigilance of the Civil Authorities in it having ceased upon every short period of quiet. A plan has been adopted to circulate more generally seditious and blasphemous Tracts, which is, to send gratis such p ub li c I ca- , dons weekly, directed to the servants iu large families, think worthy of mention, not merely to stew bow indefatigable the authors and leaders of sedition are, in effecting their pur pose, but that it may be thought expedient to put the beads of families upon their guard. • Six different euttompts have come to my knowledge to seduce the soldiers, be* without the least effect ; some of them are un der legal investigation. . I have only further to add, hat whatever disunion may pre vail amouj e the leaders of sedition and Radical Reform, they still unite in the endeavour (though I hope with less success,) to excite irritation and discontent among their followers, and to intimidate the loyal and well affected. With a inn:belief in the seturacy of the foregoing statement, I consider it my duty to make this report. . I have the honour to be t with respect. Your Lordship's very obedient humble servant, JOHN BY NG, Major-General. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, NOVEMBER 26. The LORD CUANCILLLOIL came down to the House a short time previous to four o'clock ; and Prayers were read by the Bishop of La , the junior Prelate. The Earl of CRATUA3I attended, apparently, for the purpose of taking the oaths, but it being beyond the prescribed hour (four o'clock), that proceeding could not take place. No business was transacted, nor did ail of the Ministers ap pear in their places; but the House continued sitting till past five o'clock, when their Lordships adjourned till Monday. • HOUSE OF COMMON& Mr. H. CLIVE prtsmted the Report of the Commissioners appointed to inquire into the Fees and Emoluments of Clerks in Courts of Justice.—Laid on the table, and ordered to be printed. A new Writ was ordered for the Borough of Cambridge in the room of the Honourable General Edward Finch, who since . - his election has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. Mr. CLAII4 from the Privy Council, presented a Copy of the Irish Diocesan Returns, shewing the number of Residents.— Laid on the table. Mr. BENNET rose to correct a mistatement which bad ap peared in a Morning Paper's Report of his speech on the subject of the Address. He bad been made to say, that on the day of the 16th, Captain Burley bad not been at the bead of his Corps, lie was anxious to contradict this Report, as be could not conceive any thing more criminal in an Officer than not to do his duty ; and he heard from all quarters, not only that Cap tain !Jerky was a man of the most respectable character, but of the most humane disposition, and an Officer who would do his duty, and not more than his duty. MANCHESTER COMMENTS. Lord ALTHORP wished to ask the Noble Lord opposite, whether it was the intention of his Majesty's Ministers to refer -the Papers which had been laid before the House respecting the Manchester transactions, to a Committee of Inquiry? Lord CASTLEREAGII replied, that it was not the inten don of his Majesty's Government to refer the Papers in question to any Committee; the ground on which the measures which they intended to propose should be founded, would rest entirely on the notoriety ol the circumstances that had taken place. He wished now to add, that in consequence of the House last night not debating the Report of the Address, he should postpone to Monday next the explanation of the measures which were thought necessary by his Majesty's Ministers to meet the present state of the country. Lord ALTHORP stated; that in consequence of the refusal of Ministers to propose an investigation, he should shortly sub mit a motion to the House for referring the Manchester Docu ments to a Committee. REFORM IN PARLIAMENT. Sir H. PARRELI pvenetiie, that on Tuesday, the 14th of next month, he shout move the following Resolutions That it is expedient the Borough of Grampound should be dis franchised; sdly, That it is expedient the two Parliamentary Seats now attached to that Borough should be transferred to one or two of our populous and unrepresented Cities; idly, That it is the duty of the House to consider of the best means to prevent corruption in the smaller Boroughs; 4t.bly, That when the majority of the Voters of a small Borough should be found corrupt, that Borough should be disfranchised; sthly, That it is expedient to add to the number of Representatives for Urge and populous Citles—(Hier, bawl. In moving these Rtsolutions, he did not mean to propose a regular plan of Parliamedtary Re form. This notice arose solely from the inquiry, conducted last year, into the state of the Borough of Orampound, and alight be considered as its result. A defect had been found in thefiadomil Representation, which it was his object to correct, and he trust ed the House would treat the subject with all the attention which its importance deserved. REPORT OF THE ADDRESS. The Hon. SOMERS COCKS brought up the Re port of the Address ; wbich hawing been read, Sir ROBERT WILSON felt great distress at re newing a subject which had already exhausted the attention of the House • but th e great national in terests which it involved, demanded the sacrifice of all minor considerations. He objected to Wild plaits of Reform and Universal Suffrage, because he thought them likely to endanger the safety oldie in stitutions which, at the Bar of that House, he had sworn to - defend. But whilst he disagreed with the Radicals in opinion, he would not push them out of the pale of the Constitution. He felt great compas sion for them, and so would the House, if it put it selves in their situation. We might then parody the lines of a great Poet, and say— " The realm Is not on friend. nor the realm's law: " The realm affords no law to make me deb— * • • • • • 44 My poverty, sad not my will, offends !" They had, no doubt, read, that every man in a free State voted by himself, or through his Representa tive, for the enactmentof the Laws by which he was governed. Was it not therefore, natural that they should yield to the suggestions and seductions of those who told them that they were deprived of that right, and that they should come forward to claim it ? At the Meeting of the 16th of August, the law tad been most flagrantly violated towards them. Their banners and their numbers had been objected to ; but had not the statement of the Hon. baronet, who represented Westminster, completely removed those objections. Of this the cheers which accompanied that statement, gave evident proofs. And with respect to numbers, did not every Member who had present a Petition, feel its importance if it were signed by ten thousand, instead of three hundred ? ' There was other evidence that the people had not tome to that Meeting with hostile intentions. They had brought with them their wives and children, the objects of their affections—(Heer, hear). They had brought with them tbegallaturies of peace, and could not have intended war--(Hear hear)—unless, indeed, like the Ancient Britons, it was supposed that they bad suirounded dafosielves with.all,that was dear to them, in order to encourage them to the battle, and invigorate their despair !—( Hear, Aeon:hear). Ano ther proof of their pacific tatentions Was the posigon ~--;~ -~---_ _. -.~. -. 4 which they had taken. Had they intended to act hostilely, would they hive stationed themselves in al cid-de-sue, a mere mouse-trap, where they were sur rounded by the military, and where they had no re treat but one, and that retreat one where they were obliged to encounter the'advancing Cavalry ? He did not contend that the Magistratts might not have rdispersed the Meeting, but they ought to have done so according to the forms of the law, which was tender of the blood of the People—(Near, The Noble Lord said that they only intended to exe cute a civil act. Why then did they employ the mi litary ? Could that be necessary when Nadin him self, the man most obnoxious to the people, said in the correspondence now before the House, that he went up and down among the crowd without any difficulty? He knew that Colonel L'Estrange was a most honourable and distinguished Officer; if he had ordered the advance of the Cavalry amongst a body of men, women, and children, he had assumed a great responsibility, for the effects of the mere march of the horses must have been anticipated.' But he did not believe it, and it was due to the charac ter of that . Officer that an inquiry should , be insti tuted. Nadin hi l inself said that the attack of the Cavalry, on this occasion, had been so rapid that he had not been able to withdraw the constables in tir time. • Surely the House would not, after this, re fuse to do justice to the people, by ordering an in quiry ? The Honourable Member then contended, that the number of wounded, which had been stated , not to exceed 26, amounted •to 151, the names of whom he hoped in a few days to be able to produce.- He contended that the Grand Jury had thrown out. the bills laid before them, not because they thought the charges unfounded, but through a misconception of their own power. He maintained that his Ma jesty's Ministers had bestowed the Royal thanks im properly, as even the papers before the House shewed that much had been left untold. He complained . that they had not allowed the Prince Regent, in his answer to the Common Council of London, to intro duce a single expression of regret at the loss of lives (Hear) —although such were to be found even in the beers of Mr. Hay himself. He lamented that they should act on the erroneous supposition, that if the King of France had displayed more vigour at the commencement of the Revolution, he would have saved his throne. Far from it ; he was convinced that had the Marquis de Bonin) , acted at the time, instead of rescuing the throne, he would have added to the evils of the times. Coercion had lost Hol land to Spain, and St. Domingo to France. If affection did exist, it arose from the miseries of the People; and how could Ministers speak of irreligion stalking through the land, when they upheld that first and grand temptation to vice and irreligion, gam bling, by their system of Lotteries ? Those men who acted with so unchristian a spirit as to refuse political liberty to the Catholics, on account of reli. gious tenets, ought to be the last to complain that irreligion prevailed iu the country. Under all its al flictions and inflictions, the People had evinced us• paralleled forbearance—(Hear). —They felt as men and as Englishmen, but they had mastered their re sentments, and conquered some of their most inve terate habits. In time of peace they were now called, upon to support additional forces; all would be inef• fectual, for they dreaded much more the evils they felt than the arms that menaced them. A system of conciliation mast be adopted, sooner or later, con nected with that Reform which a Judge on the Bench had declared should extirpate corruption from the House, and restore confidence between the People -and their Representatives. Then might it be said of Great Britain—" Nemo enim illic vitia ridet ; nec cor nunpere et corrumpi rirculion vocatur." I Mr. G. LAMB conceived, that if the People could be satisfied with. words, they might be pleased with the expressions of commiseration introduced by his Majesty's Ministers into the Address. But when they had been omitted on former occasions, why were they now inserted 1 Whilst every opportunity was taken of declaring the loyalty of the subjects to the Throne, why did so few Declarations express senti ments of conciliation and protection in return ? (Hear, hear). —The Address was not exactly as it ought to be. The House ought to carry to the foot of the Throne more than mere words. They ought to have made an application for inquiry. What would be the effect of such an Address as the pre sent in the Manufacturihg Districts? They would read that the House believed in the existence of dis affection, and pledged itself to measures of restric tion; but that, with respect to their distresses, it contented itself with expressing a barren hope that they might prove temporary I Was this calculated to tranquilize their minds and soothe their feelings ? He was near the spot shortly after the Meeting of the 16th of August, and had seen many very respectable people who had a perfect knowledge of all that had passed at that Meeting. The result of the informa tioh which they had given him, was a conviction, on his part, that no resistance was opposed to the read ing of the-Riot Act by the Magistrates _ ; and that no ,attack was made on the Yeomanry before the cry of 44 Have at their flags !"—(Hear, hear)—This was cer. tainly a time when assertions might safely be made, on both sides, for that inquiry was denied which might display their truth. He called the attention ' of the House to the appalling situation in which the town of Manchester and the country were placed by the refusal of all inquiry. Individuals who had lost their dearest friends or relations in the events of the 16th, had still looked with hope to that House, not withstanding all the declamations and publications of the Radicals. What would be their feelings when they should learn that their hope was disappointed? They would examine the proceedings of the House,, and expect some fact to have been stated, or some argument used, of sufficient power to justify the de nial of inquiry. But on looking at , the speech of the Noble Lord opposite, which might be considered as the polar star that guided the late majority, would such facts or reasonings appear? They would find it stated that the Magistrates had issued no positive orders to the Yeomanry to strike the people,Who then would they think the authors of their injuries? He contended that it was most improper to have em ployed the Yeomanry, who, unlike the regular mili tary force, were connected-by many ties to a parti cular town, and were thus compelled to spend their lives, where they were surrounded with the resent ment.and indignation of the 'people, The injurqd lathy *dusk were told, that an indictment lay against Hunt, and they must look to him for satisfaction. But they would answer, that his prosecutors were the Magistrates, who were parties to the transaction. When such prosecutors found that they could not make out the case against the accused without ex posing themselves, was it not to be expected that they would prefer sacrificing justice to their ow n se curity? It was said that the question ought to he brought before a law tribunal, instead cf undergoing a general inquiry in the House. But there Was one part, and that not the least important which no Cou rt of Justice could reach ; he meant the conduct of Mi nisters in'the transact;on—(Hear, /4,7f:el.—The ca,.e of the Magistrates and Yeomanry seas very different ; the one might be justified M the expense or the othe r . but his Majesty's Ministers had approved the con , duct of both, and thus assumed the responsibility vi the whole on their own shoulders---(Hea r , When the want of means ID prcsecute was urged; the House were tolel of a subscriptiOn going on irr the Metropolis and other places to afford those means. It thus turned out that that subscription, which the Ministerial Press had so misrepresented and abused, was, after all, the only means that te. mained to the injured for seeking redress—( H ear, hear). — Till the vote of the night before l ast , h e h ad entertained no doubt that an inquiry would be granted, but now that it was denied, he would give his mite to the subscription, and he thought the Honourable Gentlemen on the other side bound to do the same—(Hear, hearl.-They asserted that the Courts of Law were the only places where the suf- apply, gh and t thvoier w e - rae h lrfi e ob, r ri;e e er;a( j irt u io,t s yle t i ce: c a( e )orn;ti. c i ti o bh u lte l t ; etsh b evi. o fe b r t e a r i s ne o d ur t th t e o you enable them to make the application. On his sided w th o e u r d o b u e se o i n t e ss o •a c s ju a s n tic a e_ ct r t aol o ( n e: edsiare f tma o S otrhet : aihol a teebai N Gtej l h. c i ,ee t tc r i itdsnee should a uethl l el d s h u opi dbpei pledged himself i tion c) m y objected to the persons who had the manageme n t Of t e funds,o serious,fthtoieti l r wsw e uo t aab In t ss h cdnl e r oi m a f bt o pe r the p s pl e e_ osite w whe ther s • that by private generosity, which they had prevented by their public vote ?—(Hear, hear, I:ear). Ile recom mended that measures of conciliation should be adopted towards the people of Manchester. He was well acquainted with several of the Magistrates, and therefore experienced some difficulty in speaking about their conduct. Of the stipendary Magistrate of the place, however, the Learned and Reverend Mr. Norris, he would . say, that it was his belief a man with a kinder heart did not walk the earth. But if the proceedings of the 16th of August were , really directed by Mr. Norris, if he had not suffered him self to be over-ruled by others, he must then, for that day, have altered his nature--(Hear, hear). — The Honourable Membee-then blamed the manner in which the proceedings before the .Oldham Coro ner had been suspended, after having commenced with manly confidence. He reprobated a certain Magistrate, for having taken upon himself, at Man chester, the part of a Grand and Petty Jury, and pronounced on the innocence of a person accused before him. He asked whether any lawyer in the House would say that Meagher's case vas not ma which ought not to-be disposed of by a Magistrate, but ought to have been sent before a Jury ?.—(Hear, hear). He reprobated any increase of . the Army in ,the midst of peace. It was now too late to talk of the glories 9f the war; it was time to feel the bless ings of peace-a-((fear, hear). —Where was the hal cyon course of prosperity we were to enjoy upon the conclusion of war ? Where was the benefit of all the victories of our renowned Armies, led on by that Illustrious General, who, as he had been the ef fectual Champion of the Independence of Foreign Nations, it was hoped would be found the , efender of freedom and peace in his own Hear, hear, hear). One of the objects.of the contest was to put dawa Republican principles. How had that object been effected? He would not answer the question : but let the Address proposed by his Majesty's Ministers speak. • Did it not say that Republican principles, irreligion, and blasphemy, were current among the People, and vended in every shop ? It was thus that the great end of the war had been attained —( Hear , hear).—The confidence of the country was lost: it could only be restored by such Reform in Parlia ment as would produce an efficient Representation in the State. One of the worst signs of the times was the want of confidence in all public men ; and this arose from the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers, and of the Magistrates themselves. Their speeches and measures tended to reduce other public men to their own level, and in that he believed they had succeeded. They were, in fact, the worst of a:1 levellers--(Hear, hear).—He conjured them, as they . had declared, in their Address, the great majority o r the People to 'be loyal, to pause before they injured and insulted that majority by.measures of rest:ictica and deprived them of those weapons and argutnint: , by which they could best counteract the disaffected. Mr. BOOTLE WILBRAHANI occupied ele at tentien of the House for a short time in an tion, the chief object of which was to she* Can e statements he. made on a former night were bor:e out by the evidencecontained in the documelas the table. He bore testimony to the anxiety of t::e Manchester Magistrates to remove florn their cha racters every unworthy imputatiOn. He read a part of an Address to the Prince Regent, which, he said, WAS the best Address he had ever seen, and a'. 6 signed by all the respectable inhabitants of Manches ter, expressing the highest confidence in the chalk ters of the Magistrates. Mr. DENMAN had come prepared to argue t;:e legality of the Manchester Meeting. As he fount. .howeverohat a Noble Lori. (Lord Alzhorp) 1 1. • 11 given notice of a motion on the subject Pf the Man chester Papers, he should delay explaining the grounds on which his opinion was founded, tint that question came before the House. He should at pre sent only add, that he neyeacould agree to an . Ad • dress which entirely overlooked the gr eatest otaa ice that had yet been committed.against the C onstituti on --(Hear, hear) —tending in the most direc t nrarre( to establish Military despotism, andthe more (ingo ous, as it was defended on principle—W e ar, hoy . ): —He could never agree to an Address, r s!lich d i td . not even contain one expression cf regr et at the ea s a mitous results of the dispersion of the Meeting, v•h!lcte it carried to the foot of the Throne the acapirtacei. of the House in measures of restriction—Wear, :.ay . • Mr. SHEPHERD.had thought himself bound by • ani runt that tended to excite a vexatio ns inqi , .ir,v , every prinCiple of justice to vote ag'ainst Amend. v e.ei ,os ic sn dot rick' or I