Star. — London, England, 1804-06-26 00:00:00

ltaceefilnty °raw lhonld incline Noble Lords to every etpedient conducive to the national but the prefent feeble mealine could not be 'dared adequate to this weighty defign. c Earl of LlMERlCKdeenned thz difenuraging 'le of the Noble Duke extremely impolitic.- 1 magnified the power of the enemy, extended tulation„ and placed our own valour and re in the moll painttil compartiott He flattered however, that the Noble Doke had not eon repreferted either the condition of the one or other. The population of France was greatly ifty millions, and of Great IL ;lain much above millions; and whatever might be faid of the and inccelles of Bonaparte (if indeed. his Im- Majelly might be ft called . ) he trolled there nlliritty charaaers fit. there iflands s, Ito were In none of thole goalifications by which an ....seneral was dilliorilhed. The Earl of WES"). MORLAND, in a long and Argumentative fpeech, fopported the bill. He prin• infilled on its efficacy as a permanent fource Cf protation again(' the haughty toe by whom we Were Menaced. He law wine of (hide tobjeaions ton ionflituti.inal grounds, on which home Noble Lords had dilated. If he undertlood the Bill (11 RightS, it reqnired that no (landing army fliould he continued in the country, withcot the concurrence of Parlia ment.. There was nothing in the prefent hid which militated again ft that principle, and while it conduc ed to the lafety, it in too relpett imerfered with the liberty of the date. The Earl tsf SUFFOLK oppoied the bill in a fhort fpeech. Lord HOBART alto tippled it. He erprelted his obligations to the candour elate Noble Vifcount (Lord Melville) in his acknowledgments of the me tit of the Army of Referee Ali, introduced by his Malefly's late Mirtifters, and the efficiency of that aneafure in accelerating the increafe of the public force ; and alto for his acknowlelgment that the prefent bill was founded upon the halls of the f rmer. He could, however, afore the Noble Vifcnunt, that however efficacious that meafure had proved, for the put-pole of recruiting the army, it WiA s Idle adopted Very much to the r•irow of his heart, and very much again* the wifhes of his Majelly's late Minilter', be asts& they confidered it as I:1101;oz feverely upon the 'task feeling. Nothing could have induced them to entertain filch a meafure, but the very urgent ne ceffity into which the country was In froddenly throws, of p reparing , with the utmo ft po ffi ble expedition, for the immediate repulfion of a menabing enemy—at a moment too, *rhea the ballotting was going forward to complete the new Militia, and the fervice of re. eruitirg for the line rivalled each other in filch a way Is very much to impede the completion of the public force to the extent to indificenfably neceffary. Bit the meafure having been tried as far as prudence or policy could render it effective, a necellity was felt, when the public force for the de(Fnce of the country had reached a certain pitch, to fu c:end its further ore tation, in °pier to give place to other modes o f cc trailing.Having felt It; therefore, neceffary in a great meafure to abandon thy principle, no longer Cffeltive,,he could not now approve a bill, avowedly founded upon the fame bath; he was CClskinitS it could not be effeaive in raifing the men. He ob jedhed to itasopyreffiee and sesati..its en the pat jibes, and as going to ell ablith a new .and . hot tonal principle in the, public force of the country, by , ren dering any branch al it permanent ; a circiinillance which muft he extremely painful to the feelings 'of thole who bid bi:•co in the I.Mform habit of voting the mainienaCtce of the public force from year to year; and who recolietled the wife and Wgiiant pteeatc lions of 00r ancellnis againfl the ettablill.ment of a permanent ilanditig ;limy ; betides the idea of a per manent force, declated by the preamble of the bill, Mott be negatcre, ;is with reigedi to this bill, with out the aid of miter hill:. Lord GRENVILLE arilopiltd to the Houle for tiling at in late an hour to trefpal. 1)TI the atteptioa of their ; kut the neceflit V WAs forted upon him by atilt-tidos which had taken limn two Noble Lords olio had ipokcn ettly in the debate, with whom he had been in habits vet ftieudlhip.— [We underdnod the Noble 'Lord as alltotiog to the Doke of Montrofe and Lord Molgravell—and who had imputed to flail:: who oppofed the Doi a princi- , ple of oppolition not to meaforea hut to men. This was founded upon affection unfupported by argo. anent. He deprecated, in the &onset terms, that fisecies of proceeding on the part of thole Noble Lords, and thole who were now I is hi jta y's Mini tier!., of endeavoining to fopply the want ..1 at gotment by the intto.!tb‘li ,, n rt afperated perronality ; a fp.cies of procedure at all times abhorrent, latult to his pin. ciplcs and his teeliogs, anal which he revec had t nr ever would adept. But when 1116 .1 chat ge as that of oppofing affection without argument ogaioft •he Bill, was urged to thole who upload it, 11;. I.••id fhip felt it nectfility to acquit Eit.dell of tio ao tot. potation by K ing at f me length into the d t it of his reafons for tapia:foa:: the Bill ; tivrt.gla, a!ter tic Ample sWe.;1110:: It had 311 CA dy h ; cal l; ant pretend to offer any new at)rorucot an the Rib jctt. The Noble 1., , ral then event moth at I ivy: a ilifcuflion of the Is.v:r. I ebonies of the Bill, w: he ditcolicti with much argument:a ire f•Ate artnyth of language, bit, as his Lot efhip h of tinif d, with hale n..velly of principle, ;diet th, bates al:catty belote the Public, hut ir co oat,. ioncioded that this ilia, 4, far from a,:cc . .era mattrially impede the Rectiii.ho; 5..• {hat fo fat from prim ring the i i i teic a, • t i!, C . 1 it went to !hike at the very root of a m;11 .rs Ph th.lt it wool.l he Ina tit ly megal., t y t o h.sy the men, hot vetathat• and Opp t 1E Vt• t n ri`lta .not Omit miter. ; d that, in laort. t: *b.& arnshdiog ti.c Bill, would be to en throolgit All Its CI titles, and C.'lllC at i.l CO •1 , 11 II tot ri ot point where this 11.11, alter pros ;.•• ii let int y, would come at lad, namely, io if . Co Is r f tecriot:ng the army by !Lc ots!:•• •ty rtg,ibu mode, as pr.aoil.:l 1 crste! , a e, • he fantod ei:•tticr. T' , lile I.oid c •t.: ohkr•ing, its anfwer t•o a Ntibl? Love, f. rto.- i• only toar rlaofe in „ z Etc meat of a permanent ti -re ; • t'• • • ay, not alsrays etni odied, bat pet m o.ott . f and difeiplined, and ready In be Bailed o•i• ••,• •• emergency, it th.irilit he ash , i red 1•• r • - alone; that hi: Lordthip Lehi the d •,• o-• . principle, for on account of that claiire only, a tl.cre e i „, eta 100 Other Ghia/sou, he would okrcolit the tilt Or • 'retort Iftetnee, t i ltonfidars The E • anguag4 1: é had • isis pops] *refers i I limfelf, ,cal) , re of the of ' below fil twelve talents a ftetial N pere rn inferior Ge , . • , • • it was a rirhlcipl'e wholly new to this ertintlitt. ttrt direttly fubvetlive of the principles of our Conftitot tion, And 'es that falutary vigilance always exerted by our anceltorr against the eflablament of a Ilan/l ing army ; it was a principle borrowed from the m'- litary Governments of Europe, and which were mi litary Governments precifely, becaufe they adopted fuch a principle ; and it was a principle on which he ferinufly e•jured their Lordfhips to paufe molt deli berately bet, re they adopted, under the fanEtion of British laws, inch a power in the Crown as a perma nest army, - officere! by the exclufire appointment of the Crown, and nut by the Gentry or Property of the cuuntry ; to be called nut At the pleafure of the Crown, and free from all contrnuil of Parliament. — His Lordlhipconcludzil by apologizing to the Houfe for treepailing fo long on their lime, under the ne ceffity of (hewing, that hi, refillance to this Bill was not withzut arsiiment to fati4, at lean, his own Sir Timm- NOUN rimed Ate liemirabie )oletabir dor the ruled on which be had dlfeestred fuel a laudable ambit, had hot efeaped the attetilitin of bli hialeitya Ooverument. It wia fume time untie their confideration, aud hut for the ad vanced period of the seflion, and the multiplicity of ilufinefl be tore the tioufe, it thatild be brought forward before the reeefs. It ihotild certain', be eaten into confideration early in the eufuivg hellion. mind. • Lord HAWNESBURY Paid, that under all the exiiling . circumiteOCCS of the country, it would be more wife to limit our confiderations to what would really tend to our defence and fecority, than to wane our time in making pert:mai obfervations. The avow ed objet of the Bull had been very joßly listed by a Nobie Baron, to be for the purpofe of railing a per manent military force for the defence of the country, by inerealio our Regular Army through the medi um .f a limited defcriptlon of force. It had become neceffary to remedy fume of the provifions of the Army of keferve A i : 15, by doing away the bal lot as applied to that force; Idly, bylmp3fing heavy fines upon the difiriets ; and idly, to prevent irin terfe,ing with the recruiting of the Regular Army. The operations of there three caufes made it ex tremely defirab!e to put this Bill upon a fair trial.— The plan went to obviate all the objeftions which bad formerly been Bated to cliff. as to other kinds of force. and to engraft a fyttem for a permanent force for the feeurity ni the country. He owned that if the blili is were to be the only kind of force for the de fence of the country, 71,030 men would not be more than would be advifable to retain. He, however, thought it better to have an additional permanent force and a (mailer Militia. The officers too, in the prefent cafe, would be preferable, on account of the plan of connecting the two battalions together. — Were we to look to the prefent Itate of Europe. none of us would doubt of the neceffity of keeping up a confiderable (landing army for the defence of the country, both during war and peace. The ne ccflity to him appeared much more argent than on any former occafion. Look at the war of 1756, be fore the Militia were created. Look at the hate of the country in 1778 ; and look at the beginning of this war, and view the danger which always three ened us from the lot noidable and early preparations of our enemies. The Bill propofed no tax upon the country. but only fuggetled the moll effeelual means of furnifhing the men. There was a great diffetence betwixt recruiting in the great towns and conntry difiriets. Great exertions were neceffary in the one, and local influence in the Other. It was local jar!. euce that had made recruiting always fucceed better in Setif ,o,i and Ireland than in England. The nom• txr of rtcruits obtained in England had always been in propertion to the number of perfons employed to obtain them. The fine was exceedingly moderate," and would be much more deferable by the people thin the fyfiem of a ballot. On the Whole, it was Purely advifable to try this meafirre, as it was in tended to be in addition and nut in lien of other me:s tores, to that if it did no good it would occation no harm. Lord CAMDEN f - aid a few words in explanation, and Lnrd GRANTLEY made fome obfcrvations againfl the Bill. After µ hich the cluellion being loudly called for, die liuure divided at a little im3 one o'clock. Conte r.ts - R 4 Proxies 70 Non Content, - so -- 1 9 MAjority in favour of the 1111 85.—Adjourned. HOUSE OF CONINIONS. Mr. 11FNRY LA,Cr.I.I.F.S niur,l the Order of the Day ter •he Houie goteg Lat.° a COIIIITOIttC CO I h.. Wrni.CD Blacuiatturera' SurpeoliJn Pill. On the queltion, that the Speaker do leave the Chair, Mr BROOKE laid, he had Benoit ohjeetions to the Bill, but w ould eoure,,t to go iuto a Committee. It the Hon. Gentleman would promlre to !trine an a Val !or the Rs-trio:l of all the Ada re !rive in the Woollen hialauta,•,urers, In was:lnferrer& Ora svery auctuion would he paid to that fuhirel. 'Elie Hour then wet iet , . a C.,11 rt, in , C. the Report *ran brought up, aed the bill urdered to be read a third tint' to- la• , trove. Mr EVAN NENE AN 01 , tained leave to bring in a Bill to efta- Llia, a priMiatient Port, in Ireland. (het I i Ak/i :f I rat the I Kell rave nntice, that en I 'May next he WotOlti to the confodere ion it the l Ina, a [Warta! et '3.11P . o, the Civil and alio relative in the .1 r rut bun', which had been opened during the car:y rat the ,eifi . tfl. Mr hVg.R.Wi Lrou,ht up • Petition In behalf of William sire:ice, n Nar•. Oliiccr. in tic euitody of the vf the King's Bench 1'11(041. Rating 3r.1 relief un.Lr the Infolvaot Debt. re Buil mew pet.ding.—Ordered to lit on the .. 1 all •. Mr. FOTEI•ft brmiuM ep a Bill S,r colleelllng certain Stamp Do it 1.11% adan l ,whiclri we , res.: a Grft time, and or.krcl to be rcc nc t.invort , ov. libr La h l eer berm Jr it,v, at.s. or:try:l to ! , e mart a femmi Vine to marrow. Mr JO' ti!STON that Owe be lx:d tit fore the Pica: a It.tme r ..t pvri, .1.: tof an account h..itlr up on the aft of Mar b,15:, 4 , !,v w aieb ine Ealt InAi, Cnvipary claimed from • fi•ni.rhine v the fans at ".:30,11.-oL—Ueda rt.?. Mr Itta •F. e•te.,! :he Outer ut the I/ay far thc Honk ratting into teethe efleft Cite Report on the Liverpool Late-India rtazt t;.to Atter vf riding+. in which 'wino* opinions were a. to the le •e... e n , tern,ntieg Fait India Prue Goode• to he MI /iota .. in I.i•. .o'. I••fir..l of brim; Monti' as e. 11,1 tn the e- in r. et r. Ci• yof I.nodoo, th e f,ver.l .yrs it •: part, were agreed to, and the 11.11, with tile ' .• ..• ut ic .r.l,lcd to be eugnalreil, and min mad a th.. 11 •• w 3.1 patr.d. Mrio.:!,,e bill wet reed the tb:rd time, " t.ort. a. I' , . 0 . 'W. • were• charged with the 11111160411 t. Trol! ,4 th:re was not a hal 4net of enori than / • " hands of the Colleanes I and he ccnici , teliaitr notice, that he4hotsid woe, to-tnotrow,, foal ACC Alai Afreltailt the 1.18. sCoren anserioNAL meet SILL. The SECRE FART At WAR. moved tht Or.lee • of the Day for the cordi.ieratiln cf . the Report orthif Commi tee on the Bill fth railing an additional force - in Scotland. Lord ARCH. HAMILTON fai3. that he cote& not well discharge duty if he were to titer , Bill to pArs into a law for Scotland, when he ick p , pre'cifely the ram!, if not greater objeaiom in it. US thole he had eno.rtaineil tgaini the fimilar Bill ter . England, which had lately pfred that Houle. He her approved of the to io whiekthe men leer* • in he tailed, nor the manner in wltieh they were to SLAVE TRADE. After tante farther rout:nr butneis, on the motion or Mr. WM BERro ACE, the Houle proceelal to hear Collation Lie Slave Trade Alit - Aldan Bid. Mr. PioarrT having been heard at kagth, Mr. Pi.ousa was proceeding, when Mr. FUl.l.ilit esprefied his with to deer the farther hearing of Coonfet; and hoped the Hook would lodu!ge the Petitioners spinft the Bill, with Jibe .y to adduce esidcoce at the bar, as they could mate oat a new cafe. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQ!!ER objeded to this, and fate the Mae was already putrefied orrallitlS: of evidence, that Cooed had offered nothing new,and, therefor.: tp hear them farther wag unneectrary He concluded by moving that the Bill be envoled, upon which the Houkdtrided, . Ayes 52—Nuts. 9 —Majority Cc' Theban was ordered to be read the third time on Wednettby. EOR El KIN TROOPS. The SECRETARY at WAR role in purruafice of the notice he had given, to move for leave to bring in a Bill to enable foreigners to enlilt in his Majetly's fervice, and to enable his Majefty to appoint officers, &c. He obferved, that the meafure was recognized in the. Army Ellimates already voted by the Houle. It would be recollated, he laid, that the enemy had taken Reps to prevent Hanoveriens from coming neer to this country, and enlietiag in his Majelly's fetvice. The objeft of the prelim Bill was to in demnity thole who had advifed his Majefty to accept of the military Cervices of thole Hatmectians who had come over, and to enable his Majefty to appoint foreign officers to command them, and to fuhje& this force to the Mutiny Aft. According to the former we, no foreign force was (offered to be employed fit miles from the coati; but it would be idle, in cafe of invafion, not to (Offer them to march to the interior, or to fuch parts of the country as their Cer vices might be deemed &dell - Able. The number to be railed was 5000, which was now complete, it was intended to extend the number to to,ooo, and he should move that the blank in the Committee Ihould be filled up accordingly. He concluded by moving for leave to bring in this Bill. Mr. CREEVY wilhed to know if there was any exception to be made, with refpea to religious dif• tinetions in there Corps? Mr. W. DUNDAS replied, that it was intended 'to free them from the pains and penalties to %%kith the Hon. Member alluded. ' Mr. CREEVY afked, as the exemptions were to be extended to foreigner:, was it the ill:cation to extend them to Englith Catholics ? Mr. W. DILSIDAS laid, the objeft of the Bill ap plied merely to foreigners. Mr. FRANCIS obferved,it *as always confidered unconßitutional to employ a foreign force in the heart of the country, and be fhouid deliver his feniiments now on the fubjeet, if Lc had not another opportunity. Mr. W. DUN DAS fitid, the Honourable Member would have half 4 dozen opportunities ta offer his obfe-vations, if he thought fit, in the future fiotge of the Bill.—Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. isms corassisstonsas. Mr. FOSTER laid, he rofe, purfuant to the no lice he had given, to move fur leave to bring in a Bill to appoint Commiffioners to enquire into the , Calories and emoliinients of the officers in the differ ent Public Offices in Ireland, to examine into the 'bilks thereof, and to report th.reon what occurred to them in the Houle. The Right Honoerabte Mem ber obferved, that the meaftire was precifely limilar I to that adopted in this couvitry in the year Ins. Sir JOHN NF.WPOR I' thanked the Right Ho nourable Gentleman for bringing forward a mea fare fn abfulutely neceffary, and from which. he was tatisfied, the moil filutary effeets would cafe:v, if proper Comniidil,,ners were appointed, and if the Report of the Committee Was not fuffered to remain a dead letter. He then proceeded to nate, that the law expenses of the Nevenue Board, the widening the Streets Board, and the Poll Office, part;culauly the Lifer, which amounted in one year to five thou Cold pounds, were enormous, and that no office. nottsits. VIES aimoitited on the part of the public to tat the hills of the Law Agents. He alto observed , that Mr. STL'RGES 1 1 0UltNE m ov e d the fecond •eading of the bill for preventing the Counterfeiting the artears, arnountiog to the bon of (. 3 0,0001. ii of DollaYs i,f;:;741 by the B.:;k o: England , and of to the hands of the C o llators, dcferved grave and (o - kens in rtrisod. rients enquiry. Mr. hOS fER deprecated, as he did on a Carne e M. PRINCEP objeCted ts this bill on various lea coonts, hot Forticolatly, titan it was an impoGtion day, entering into any previous difcialion on the fobjeet, as every particular would come under the op,n the politic tor G...v.-rnment to all vw the circa confidetation of the Commillioners. I:Ilion of any coin, tx:Ypt what WA* aired from his Mr. ORMSBY obrerved, that cotifi ierahle lor es- M ~ .leit t ', Millf• '(exert ; 144 been no leis than three pences occurred in the Itw departmcw. ... 7 ' : P ,•1 d llcrent lanes of d. liars by the Bank, by which the Office, in conreottence of the revel Al rrowcitt ion, ,• . !ot;c , •ad miser become lot'crs. The firft iffile was ot 1 td.;-, •: . :ittamirt.i. the 11.cond of el( liars Ramped, spititt Maii-robbero, and that much ii•iga•itui atn,e a..t.t the th ird i t uo:lirs completely rmiewed, and in eunfequeoce of the widening of Iliccts. *hid, from ti nature of the mealuee, was UrlA,Otsla:Sles. 'tamped with ti ;e imoge of his Majetty. There were no noona by w;: % the p•e could b. Cc her from Mt. FRANCIS %tithed to know If he outs load ;,,, : ,,,t: t ,,,n, when o , ;n was ti , .l• allowed to be ailed i the Right Honourable Gentleman right ;rant i' .1 Ci*::::74::. E niv . in a h•n.l.tr manner to what i WAS not the intention to take soy Iters t-) i dot rn i by abates until the Repos: of the Committee of c„,,,,i;.; eou!.l be done hy his .4.•]..il y . . One great privilege 0: R ny.4l; 7 WAS the coiniug of money, which ought Goners Was mad,. to he daae at his Maj_fly's Mint alone, and not bl Mr. FOSTER laid, what he meant to Rate wa , , any private individual At Birmingham. It •• re a that the Hoide Could ton po-cred to any e t ,- , i c-ace to the country. Government ought ruttier quire into an- of the a tt.t.e.., Utiiil !be Repot! was made by the ( h e ; bot as to the rode aofltoan us a new cronaLte, and call in all the old flyer i re , o 1 !io eic, t• r the longer it was &I, rred, the more ex- . 1 Goveriimou, he mitr ed t h e li o t i tel e v e ry etc.! iv .ul.l be in.:orror , l. He nilhed that raihament non wcuid h: i: I, ti in the itituti.:: to toriarn a;iti.e:,l l ' AS far A• it h.J tie roove.. , SS k:re :AVOW ed a ith f me rerri holm the Privy Coons MT . M. Fl IZGLR -t.LD obferved, that it had cil upon that fliti . :eel, and concluded with voting 1. been lived Ow 5 or too,oool. artists were in the agot.ti the fecond re.•;!!, of tic bill. hands of the i leum in Irellnd. There might he Mr. DEN V thought uoi doitsis a eonfiderable be hr to 'fiat amount not vet paid io:o the Trea- nest and advantage t.,1 the paislic, and was in favour fore, hi,. the Lids if the Tteaftt• v were not reip.., I ct tn.! tyin. that th•dis fible for the deli:retry, a , they 1311 . d their utniott ell- Mr. STLTGES BOI:l.r.:E, in adorer to what de:Wl= s, as far a; the law would* allow them, to tee I hid 1 . .11it Ufr :sir. I's in. -et.. .Ih:et ved, that all arrears were paid in for the fet•ice of tlit 1 medal. (as the l-1 moo table Gent:eman It yield them) sor coins, were itroed no: 114 from the Royal Mint. but tourney. • Mr. CORRY remarked, from the Ratement of die the cre di t of the Wii iu of England, as Meet hue on the rrylifh and Ira Cot" Right Hon. Gentleman on a former night, it would ft" • • ;It - t I w ;it II • •ry no es. t AS n CoMpu 0r7. • on the • •••••rit op and aeLact t•.. ~ q ,„, g a („ 4 )„.1 td rior,A,,hl.. appear as if there were balances due from the Coi-.1 public to accept them, it il ey did sot ch ire. any ra. . c t n .•te• of tln• Bank ; , •.(..t.t,a He *Ant o, know Jr..., leflors in Ireland, to the am curet 1.1 enao,cic3l. But.. mere than to ''"efit the ~ n a,r.fite, if tj a s.. hi, i,,,,ajj o i, tr a m the documents on the ithle. the item. ace Tiling i but As both wet e an accorn.o!....on to the pnbUc. _,:bt.rc..,,,,,,i,,,,,.,,,,:inPgav Reportit• 1140;dt the to t r•I t toe .....ent.emat,'• own ItaltiTlynt was 551, -.:col.— 1 and wroild he ego. My ars:Ci.t , ,,l .t• Inca. the que; Cos ft . ., ....:, ."`, ,. ....„ fliiym . miww , w e . But he did not rife to cavil a.t the difference, he ouly , wa tt, w hether it iv. u!d V , il he p htie to guard the 1 R ^ • , r; , i al •-atihr w to .t.h..t ~h.s , 1 was de - irons tie it etc the fart. The Sinveyor, w i th I pn:11;c At An.tt fiami by the r•riter yof the eh Ran. as :.:. Neaps I P:ort :Pri: tik n sod the Gaugers, %sett few, from day to day, fir a month. i , we lt a s that • ‘,..,..,,, :.. t:. ; .1: ; :i t . t. i : . .... c„ .. , i ,, a ,, t r 0 fft 1 . r .,...t t . : :: : „. ..i , 1 , 7 1.1„ 0 1 i. I ttoictilifee.Dintilmillaekrieesa..•f 1:,C154:1k TVs' e• t r a e l : ;..d ., n ot n h i a. i r ii, pl f r u t m et, s a ft ia ,b e i , el to c lef 1 Str MA . l . aII:AV 11.1..UX.AM declared. that Illi • b u t t h e y , CO PS his conneetioA. , led !nm to form any np s tielk ea i• rt . • in.rn,l• vt I•,e P...hvasats n( : were forbid from receiving a peony. Th e ir mor n s ; the fobteef, he had near heard of any Incla t. - t fir ',lr.,' ~,,,,..... know I were Pent to the Collators of each thillia, who re-; Rance 'at the Hon. Member oppobee Wk. le :.:li t I ionoorahlc Iit:YOLADD I I torn•-. 1 h t eat to the Treat - tribe and the Colleftoes ; bad Intedelled. et iloollr %A ft Mw be di !pored of when rairctl. Oo jag to the satiate difi.uMons which the former Bill had undergone., he contented himldf with recaOtulating fhottly the va rious objenions he alluded t , . • He conceived that the Bill, as to its immediate Make, was completelugo gator!, and as to its permanency, it writ yitt ono conttitutional. , ,• , The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER • laid, he would acknowledge t'sat all the pseud meafures of the Englith 8.1 l applied equally to the prefent one. The manner of recruiting was route what different ; for in Scotland it was pruseipilly to .. be effeeted by the esertions of the Heritors, inlttod , of Peri& Officers. The m•litia weie to be difeashoe died fie months after a treaty of Peace, end it would then be in the plan of the Leghlature to keep np the force to be railed as might be judged moll proper. Mr. KINNAIRD, in a tperch of toofiderablo length, objelted lirongly to the Bill. He Paid, that if the objedions against the former Dill had any weight at all, they teemed to have double force la the prefent one, becaufe the cirtomffances of the two . cowries were different..He difapproved higlslyof re ducing the Militia of Scotland, which watt in mate rial for its defence, was 111Wful iattitution, and bad been greatly improved. The Militia of that country was extremely popular, owing to the military fpirit of the Scotch. There *as no country in the world - in which the elder fens of perfotis of property OCT* fo much inclined to a military life; the Militia of Scotland. therefore, without any difparagemient to England, was infinitely better officered. Indeed, the zeal and military fpirit of that country bid rendered the Militia of Scotland inferior Men other fpecses of force in any point of view. With yelped to the means of railing the men. it was evident that the fame reach fiery could not be attempted in Semiarid, as had been foggefted as to England. The perinea intended to fupply the Parilb Officers in this Bell, . were the heritors of patithes. who might ether. , wife be denominated country Gentlemen, who, in order to endeavour to raiic men. meR be ander the neceffity of appointing an agent. Such an agent. therefore, would be notitiog better than a lieenfed crimp, and the heritors finding, it impoffible to rails the men, would be meeting for no other porpore than to fix an ailetiinent upon tirentfel-es in hen of them. It would operate more as a land tax 'than even in' England and would therrf ue be a breach of the union be twixt the two kingdoms. Mr. IL DUNDAS fpoLe in favour of the Bill, and anfwered tercr4l ut the .objedinos of the laft Speaker. The SECRETARY at WAR Paid, k was no breach of the Union with Scotland, any more thato what leveral other taxes were. It would he abfurd to fay that an Union of ton years banding (bald prevent the proper 'mans being adopted for the pun pole of n stional defence. It was certainly prefaabla in employ heritors to atfill 'n fairing the men, than cr think of injuring the religious feelings ot the peo pie, by converting their Mioitters of Clergymen into Requiting Officers. Atter a few words from Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON in etplana.i n, the Report was re ceived, he Amendments wee agreed to. an' the Biii otd:r4d to be engirded, AZIJ lead a third time to-morrow. 1 . 1. A I r)l r f. ly rrr.trur l•T b 114. t• 11' WINK W. i• to h Le ling, ~. 7. :1 11