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Bores 6s—Pit 39. 6d.—Gal. as.—Upper Gallery Is.. _ _ _ Places for the Boxes to be taken of Mi.. Brandon, 'at the Box Office, in Hart (tree. %•Correci Boohs of the P,rformance to he had in the Theatre only price 61. Thorc 1 . 311 in the ftreets arc fpurious and ins. perfeet. CAPITAL FREEHOLD ESTA I'ES, HUNTINGDONSHIRE • TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, by Mr. LEAKE, At the Bell Inn, Stilton, on Monday March ad. at 'Film o'clock, _ in Sixteen Lots, confuting of I'HE MANORS of Stwtrey Stilton and Gidding, -I- and fundry valuable Farms (the greater part Tytbe Free,) containing 2034 acres of excellent arable, pafture, meadow and wood laud in Sawtrcy Stilton, Ca!dicot and Gidding, let to rcfpee table yearly Tenants at old ren•g, amounting only to 22771. per annum, and capable of very conuderabli. incseafg. Particulars may be had of Georg' booth Tyndale, Efq Lincoln's Inn Fields ; of Mr. Hinde, at Sawtrey ; and of Mr. Leake, at Flettoo. near Peterborough. By Order of the CommiMoners fur the Care ancibifpofal of Pruf fan Ships and Cargoes detained, • • •A FOR SALE, At the Lmidnn Tavern, Fothelr.ftrect, Pl?mouth rn Friday, the zoth l'ebreAry init. at ten o'clock in the Ff:reticon, T HE GALI,IOI NIERCURIUS. Leilgtb 66f.t. ain. Breaeth ,aft. d^u-afu-eb t2h k 1-94 Tons. BRIG MINERVA. Length 6oft gin. Breadth r 3ft. I tin. Dept tcft tat. Admeafures 85 68-94 Tort. GAI.LIOT EVA DNE. Length 7gft. gin Breadth 23f5.4 in. Depth 1111. 317. Aomainres 175 58 94 Tons. G ALLIOT NORDSTERN. Length E;!t 410. Breadth 23ft. 310. Depth tet. 6in. Admeaferts 197 55-94 Tons. After the Sale of th. Ships will be fold the entire CARGO of the NORDSTERN, detained on her voyagefrom Ba) onne, bound to Svttin, eonfifting of 63 Pii.us Bandy 2 Calks of Hams 31.;• Calks White Wine 21mi. of Cork 14 Hkds Oil of Turpentine it Tone of Rofin After whieh will he fold the under-mentioned Goods • 8 Butts of Sherry Wine 16 ditto Pickled Lemons 37 ditto Malaga ditto 5 Bawds Caren Orange/ 6 ditto t C afk of Black Lead x Hhti }Malaga Sack ditto 236 Bales/ Lemon Peal Butt 5 o dit / Lime Juice 2 Bags 34 Hh. s t o Shumack I ditto Olives Being part of the Carg3 of thc. Dana Brig FORTUNA. . Alto, 232, Bales of Wouw Weed. or Dye Weed; part of the Cargo of the Danifh Brig HAABET. All condemned to the Crown. Fnr rnventories of Ship•. Catalogues, and Samphs of Goods, apply to the Counting Houfe of Mr. JOHN HAWKER, Merchant, Plymouth. Plymnuth, January ay. 1807. AFTER THIt SALE OF THE ABOVE, WILL BE SOLD, SUNDRY Spars, Yards, and Lower Malts, Cables Mtlicogers, and other Rope, Old Iron, Copper, Lead, &c. Iron BAIR, Anchors, and other valuable Ship Stores, remaining unfold, from the French frigates PRESIDENT, MSNERVA, and AR m nE—the former condemned as Prize to a lquadron of His Majetly's fhips multr the command of Slr THOMAS Lawn. For particulars apply to Meas. John Hawker or James Slade, Merchants, Plymouth. The two latter condemned to a fquadron of (hips under the command of Sir SAMUEL Hoon.—For particulars apply to Mr. JOHN HAWKER, Merchant, Plymouth. Plymouth, January 27, 1807. At the Timber Yard, known by the name of the Pain Yard, in Plymouth, On Friday,tbe 27th of Fcbruary inft.tnt, at Ten o'Clock is the Forenoon A BOUT to,opo Feet of very Choice HON DURAS MAHOG ANY. For viewing the fame ana Catalogues, apply to Mr JOAN HAWKER, Plymouth, Feb 7, tBc7. Merchant, Plymouth. . - SONIERSETSHIRE. V.IGIBLE AND IMMOVEABLE FREEHOLD FS r Ans 0 lin SOLD BY PRIVATE CON !'RA(' 1-, THR Eli CAPITAL FREEHOLD FARMS, nearly within a Ring Fenre : containing jppro:vi-te Mer fuages, Barns.Stablcs, and other fuitalds Convenienc..s for Cat ; connected with vilit.,ble and highly improwl , ic Lands, in Arable, Meadow, and Pa lure, amounting to OA A. 2R, P. itatute Inc afure. The above ratms arc fruate in the Parifh of Paton, in a re• inarkably healthy and pianrefque part of the County of Some: Lt. miles front Bath, five front Wells aad Glallonbutf, and two iron) Shepton Mallet—all good market towns. l he Eftates abouhd witb — Lime, Marie, and blue lye , flonc, of a fingndarly valuable quality for building. Five Hundred and •t* wen ty live7Acres cf the above are Tithe free; and many of the P.,:tare Lands have not been ploughed her near half a century, which, if converted into •illage, would not Only produce abund .it crops for many years, without the aid of manure, hut incretde the annual income of the Filates to a confulerable amount. A river runs nearly through :he centre of the Farms; with which a confiderable p4rt of the adjoining Lands may be irrigated at a moderate espenee, anti converted to valuable Water Meadow. A quantity, con tainit g 8 A. 2 R. has already been floated as a Ipectmen. "1 be above I (fates are let to the rzfredlive tenants from year to year. Ihe *limber to be taken at a valuation by two indiff,,rent men mutually choren. hlr. hicks, ore of the tenants, will thew the Efht" ; an d par titulars may to known of Meffrs. Fooks and Evert d, folicitors, ;heron Mallet; or of W. Upjohn, Land and Timber Surveyor, 12 nCo•tage, near Sh a f te lb ur y , w h ere Pl ans ac d titictiptivc Par ticulars may bc fccm—(Lcttcrs, pit paid.) r7CTU4L LI .CG•OFFICE Fedraay 4, ictc7. THE COMMISSION'ERS for VP.TUALLING HIS lericl7FSTre NApy, de hereby gi•Nr Nctice, Tha: cm Friday the loth inftsnt, they will he ready to re ceive Tenders in w':-iting (fealed up) and treat fur what RIVETS, COOPER'S TOOLS, and COOPERAGE STORES, the fervice of this DeTartment may require for the (pace of One Year, from tte dates of the Contraerts ; to be delivered into the Vidtualling Stores at Deptford; and to be paid for by Bills payable with in tereft ninety days after date. The Conditions of the Calmar tray be fun at the Secretareb Office No regard will be bad to any Tender in which the !rice flail Not be ii feted in words at length, or tbht flail sot be deli fined to the Board befire cne o'clock oN At faid Fttloy the 20th ilillse, nor valets the ,Perfin who wales tbe Tender, or lone Perim on bit 6.621 f, attends to anfwer when calfsd for. THE SPRING SHOW of CATTLE, SHEEP, Bcc. will be held on Monday and I tiefday, the ;Al and gd of March, at SADLER's REPOSITORY, Gofwell-street, near mitkfield.—No Stock will be received after eight o'clock. Ad million at nine o'clock. PARLIAMENTART PkGCLEDINVS. MOUSE OF LORDS, MONDAY, FEB. 16. Lord: ONs tow and SEAPOITH took the oaths anal at the commencement of the Seffion. The Earl of WESTMORLAND foggefted the propriety of printing the Corrcfpondence between the Secretary of State and the Governor of Trinidad, relating to the breaking up of New Lands in that Wand. Lord GRENVILLE could not iSerceive the neeeffity of print ing documents relating to a Bill which was not then before the Houle. ADMINISTRATION OF JUST', IN SCOTLAND. Lord GRENVILLE role, purfuant to the notice he had previoufly given, of tubmitting to the delibe rate attention and ferious decifion of their Lordfhips, a Bill for the better Regiilation of the Adminiftra lion of Juftice in Scotland. It was his duty, in the firft infiance, to clear up, or rather totally to contra die, an improper opinion, which, though not enter• tained by their Lordfhips, had, by tome unaccount able means, found its way too generally throughout the country. It had been Paid, and almoft univer tally circulated, that the objel of the prelent Lill was fundamentally to alter the laws and ufages in 'the Scottifh fyltem of jut iiptudence. To this nojulti fied impreffion might be attributed, in a great &wee, any oppofition and hollility which it was likely to meet, either in this country, or in the part of the kingdom snore immediately interelled in the iffue.— Wantonly to interfere with thofe laws and inftitutes, which, for a reties of ages, fupported the fecurity and credit of a great country, he pulled the Houfe would conceive, that in this extenfive empire, he would be the laft man. The opinions he entertained, the conclu fions he had deduced from a long and praElical atten tion to human tondua, the refleCtions he was induced to make on the relpeetive and various fituations of different countries, fully and decifively convinced him, that in legiflation there was nothing fo falfe, as to apply the ufages and inflitutes of one country, however beneficial and highly valued, to another, where a fyflem of jurifprudence, varying in its modes and forms , . had been for a fucceffion of ages eftab lifted. The endeavours to mould the habits and duties of a people, fo long fubjeft to fuch a fyflem, would be the means of perhaps introducing greater and more fatal evils, than thofe which were hoped to be remedied. But there was a great and leading dif fetence between an innovation on the fyllem of jurif ptudence, the mifchievous effeas of which, no fan ciful or pleating theory could compenfate ; and that deliberate and well regulated alteration in the mode and forms of adminlfteriug juftice, which a conviction of the exifting evils, in the manner of that adminif tratirm, mutt appear to demand. The point refolved Veil* into this fimple qneflion : were there evils in the adminiftration of jullice in Scotland, and were they of a nature, as loudly to call for a remedy ? From the numerous inquiries he had made, from the great and valuable itifoimation he had thought it his duty to feek, and which, from men eminent in talents, and verfed in the principles of the Sc ottifh Law, he had the honour of obtaining, it was univetfally admitted, that loch evils did exilt ; and that it was a great and neceffary duty of legifla tive wifdom, to take Inch deft& into fpeedy confe deration, for the purpofe of providing a fuitable and appropriate reme:ly. But he wifhed not to be under flood as meaning any thing invidioufly, or that in the evils to which he. alluded, there was the flighteft in tention of cafting an unjull and unmerited afperflon on thofe refpctied chaniders who filled the judicial feat in Scotland. The evils which he propofed to correit, alone from the Conititution, or rather from the mode in which they were forced by the law, as it then flood, to adminifter juflice to the various fnitors in the different Courts. The firft objeetion which he ftlt flrongly to operate on his mind, was the number of Judei.s who compiled the Court of Selli , r in Scotland. To this number, amounting to fifteen, ail caofes were referred ; and, in the decision of the caufes, each ind:vidual Judge was obliged to give his opinion, fitiatior. A cholas fiance, hich was no inconfidetable lance of delay and prnt:aCtion. In this country, where the fir. ng and falotary principle of relponfibility operates on every perfon intrufted with that feiious and digni fied office, where, in the exercile of his judicial duties, mutt, on every occafion, prepare for the obferva tion of a Met, vigilant, and learned bar, and through that bar, for the difcuffion of an enlightened and jealous public, the benefits of fuch afeeling of relponlibility are every day found in the propriety of the decifiuns, and in the integrity and jullice with which the judicial charaCter is lupported. This prin ciple of reiponfibility, fo important in its effetts, and faltioary ;o its conftquences, derives its greateft im putt:: front the divifi ins of our Courts of Jultice.-- Each lodge is interetled in the refult t f every cafe ; he weighs the nature of his duties, and though he be furrounded by his fellow Judges, he feels on the cc cation, as if his own character was folcly involvcd.— But in Scotland the cafe is widely different. There• the number precludes any individual feeling of re fpontibility ; the force of the check, which in this country exitts, i, th.tre entirely weakened; where fif teen are called to deci..te. a diverfity of opinion mull he naturally expefled, and in that difference of opi nion, it is impotiihle to afcerrain what is, or what is not, the law of the cafe. The principle of refpon fibility has a more extenfive operation t it actuates all who are induced to introduce the merits of thole whom they with to fee pimurded to the Judicial Bench. In England, the value of the recommenda tion is quickly appreciated ; fcarcely a week elapfes, from the o.me cf his appointment, when the Judge is called upon to fulfil the duties of Ms new acquired Elation, and to give the public the opportunity of de cirling, whether the feleetion has been properly made ; and if not, it provides them with the means of ana lyting the motives which led to loch a recommenda tion. But under the tyftem in Scotland, it is not capable of forming a correa etiimate of the merits and demerits of each individual promoted to that ele• limed office, nor therefore can dude beneficial conk- quences be e::palcd, which, in all fituations of li!:, tallow from a full convklion, that the public and the country ale vigilantly employed in examining into the tefult of public exertions, and the fprings of ofreial purluits. To filch difadvantages, the prefetit fyftem in Scotland is not limited, nor are there the only evils in cidental to fo large a numher ft; t ing as Judges. It was a remark of a Learned judge (Lord Swinton) !hat the-4h ir. the other tranfaelion of life, the greater the number employed. for the perfirmance of any fpecific purpofe, the more the labour would be fubdivided, and . c-ntequently the talk on each individual would be lighter ; this conchilion, to correet in every other tefpeCt, is direly contrary to that which the organi- zation of the judicial feat in Scotland affords. Prom its conllitution, the more the number of Judges is indented, the greater will be the lehour of each ; and for this obvious reafon, that the dectaons of the Court are not founded on the dire& matter of fat% . • or a sews yore evidence, but on general pleadings and tellimony taken by Conimiffion, and on which every judge mull feparately give his opinit-n. To remedy this inconvenience, and - to provide againll its recurrence, two methods piers themtelves on the confideration of the Houle ; either that the number of the Judges in the Court i f Sfflitin fhou!d be di minifiwd, or that the Court he divided into diftinet Chambers, finrilar to the Cron; of King's Bench and Common Pleas in this part of the empire. About twenty years ago, a maion was fubmitted to the Legiflature, for the purpofe of diroinillting the number of the Scotch Judges, on the very grounds of the :nconvenience alluded to. It was rejeaed, from being univerfally unacceptable thr:.ughout Scot land ; and with every principle of jnOice, hecaufe the number of the Judges was a conititutional right; guaranteed by the union between the two countries. The other method of amendment, was the divifion of the Court of Salon into Chambers of concurrent and co-ordinate jurifdietion. What has been proved from fuch a divifion in this country, might certainly, without any reference to technical forms, be fairly concluded. to produce equal advantage, if applied, under proper circumflanccs, to Scotland, It is a painful affertion, but not more painful than true, that there is in that part of the country, an utter want of confidence in the luitors of the Court of Seflion. Such a feeling might probably ati!e from their being con fined to one Court, and not having the benefit of choice, in the fame manner as the !diots in the Courts of England. Whatever may be the opinion on the canfe, the effeas were fully and unanfwerably exhibited by the number of Scotch Appeals 'n the table of the Honfe. A number, which it was aerially impodible for this Houle to get through, confinent with its various other neceffary duties. Indeed, when the exertions, which had already been made, were confidered, nod the great art ear which remained, netwithllanding Inch exertion:, the Houle may be fairly lAd to he bankrupt with reipeel to Inch caufes, it having got aelually to the end of its means. With refpeet to the divifion of the Court of Seflion into Chambers, it was to be recolleaed, that it was not al- Court of Seilion was grafted on the Parliament of Paris. A difference of opinion has exifled relative to the pro priety of dividing it into two or three Chambers. In the former divifion, the two Chambers would confitt, one cf eight, and the other of feven judges. This would certainly diminifh the evil arising from the great number, but not in the degre e that the Legifla cure flintild approve, when providing an appropriate remedy ! The divition into tine Chambers,in which five Judges fhould fir, would be moll calculated to anfwer every end of legiflative inquiry, and to corral the vicious effee9s of the preterit organization. The emulation of thefe refpeaive Chambers, the choice which the Suitors would be enabled to indulge, the celerity of decition, fit neceffary a part cf the admini(- tr t ion of jullice, would all tend to produce the moil de &able referm, and to prevent that preffure of Appeal Caufes, which, under the prelent fyflem, have, and mull be lfill expected to accumulate. The next head to which the prefent bell referred, was the introduetion of the trial by jury, in certain &fined and expreffed cafes. It was nor from the partiality of an Englitt.man, in ettimating the great and unlimited bleffings of that invaluable privilege, that he was induced to make that meafure a part of his plan of regulation. He recom mended it on the immutable principles of jullice, on the convielion of fair and logical reafoning ; and he recommended is to a country which was acquainted with its merits, in criminal cafes, as well as thofe of revenue. It was not the intention of the prefent bill to extend to the rights of landed property. In Scot land, they were mofily quellions of law, and could be belt decided upon by the Judges. Its objea would folely embrace perfonal rights and mercantile tranfac• tions. In a Court fo conlin wed as the Court of Senion, it was impoflible that where fuel; a number of judges, or the majority of them, were called on t ) decide on the law and the fait, the fuitors would reit fatisfied with a decifinn procured under filch difcouraging circumstances; and., therefore, an 'application to the ultimate jurifd:dion of the Houfe was almoll ufually fixed on. The evidence, by commillion, was alfo a cofinm, which, in his opinion, and by the operation of his Bill, fhould give way to viva voce tettimony. The manner in which the pleadings were, at prefent, prepared, and the mode in which the teftimony was received, were, in theiroperation, produdive of con. fufion. The Judges, employed in the perufal of a variety of fimilar documents, were often obliged to come to a decifion, .with the impreflion of what they had previoufly read confiderably weakened, by having their attention directed to tome voluminous pleadings, more recently fubmitted to their confideration. The third alteraion, which he had to propofe, was the neciffity of 'Come intermediate Court of Appeal ; and previeufly to the sonlideration of that propofal, he v..ifhed to imprefs on their Lordfhips, the pro. priety cf. putting an end to appeals, upon_ inter locutory lodgments ; and limiting them totally to final. How the Court of Intermediate Appeal fhould be eonflituted, was a matter of confidera. ble importance and circumfpeCtion: Some very able aud learned characters have been of opinion, that the formationof any new chamber, to which the Court of Seffion may be fuppofed to be fubordinate, would he a violation of the Al of Union. To this chnclufron, there are throng objedions ; the Aa of Union, and the various provilions with refired to the adminidration cf jullice, were left open to future re• gulation, where that regulation was abfolutely want ing, and where the exercife of the right of revilion was fully and completly jufhified. Under fuch im preilions, the heredirable jurifdidions were abolithed; and in the reign of George 1. the Court of Set ion was altered by the vote of Parliament having pot an end to the oqice of the L , rds Extraordinary. Thus, al though the power of re l orlatit,g with a view to th e bet- I ter atiminiii ation o! j till ice ha, been ettablifhed as the right of Parliament ; yet, in conflituting the interne dive Court of Appeal, it hid been his with to adhere Ilr idly to the letter and 1'1)114 of the Articles of Union. A judge from each of the other three Chambers, with the Lord Chief Baron of the Exchequer, whom it is propoted to 'Make a Lord of Seffion, and to re peal the Aet of George 1. fur the abolifhing of the Lords Extraordinary, to fer as the permiffion to his Majetly •to create one, would conthrute a Fourth Chamber, calculated to take a full revifion of the proceedings of the (Mier Courts ; and to anfwer all the necefl'ary and beneficial purpofes of an intermediate Court of Appeal. No prohibition was intended by the Bill, againit the right of the Judge, againit whole decifion the appeal was made, to fit in that Chamber. —ln fume ca!es it might be ferviceable, but it was deemed more advifable to leave it, on all occafions, to his feelings. The Noble Lord concluded his able and perfpicirous flatement, by calling on the Houfe not to confider the prefent meafure as that of any individual or individuals in the Houfe ; but trolled: that both in the general outline, and the more need. Cary detail,it would receive all the affiance, ftrength, and matured wifdom, which the fuggetlions of their Lordfliips individually, and the legiflative wifdom of the Houfe, were fo powerfully enabled to communi. cate. The time for its fecond reading he propofed for that day three weeks ; an interval in which the meafure could obtain that great public difculfion which wr:uld materially affift its progrefs through Parliament, and its acceptance throughout that part of the country for which it was intended. He then moved, That the Bill, entitled " An At for the better regulating the Adminiftration of Juftice in , Scotland," be read a firft time. The Duke of MONTROSE thought it would be advi!able that the fubjeet fhould be made the objeZt of two ditlinet bills. Some Nable Lords might per haps like himfelf be of opinion, that advantages would Teti& from the divifion of the Court into different Chambers, who fill might differ widely as to the ne ceflity of a Court of Review, or the propriety of introducing the trial by Jury. Lord ELDON fully agreed with the Noble Baron who introduced the Bill, as to the neceffity of fome change in the judicature of Scotland. It was a ne ceffity flrongly impreffed upon his mind by long experience and much refleaion. He profeffed his readinefs to give, the Noble Baron every afEßance in his power. Lord HAWKESBURY expreffed his concur. rence in the principle of the Bill, and faid, that it was a tubjeet which had occupied his attention when he filled the office of Secretary of State for the Home Department. Lord E LLENBO ROUGH derived the higheft fa. tisfafliun from the liberal manner in which the quel -1 tion had been difctiffed. His Lordfhip expatiated with his habitual energy upon the ineßimable advan tages of the pradice of Thal by Jury, and obferved emphatically, that be could not conceive that any people could be fo curled with judicial blindnefs, as to reject a boon of to precious a nature. The Earl of SUFFOLK fuggefted the propriety of making fame addition to the talaries of the Lords of Setfion. The LORD CHANCELLOR approved highly of the principle of the Bill ; and obferved, that if fomething were not done to put an end to the accu mulated and accumulating appeals from Scotland, it would be impoffible for that Houfe to render jullice to the fubjett. In reply to a fuggellicm of Lord Eldon's, about poltponing the fecund reading to that day month, Lord GRENVILLE faid that he was particularly anxious to get the Bill through the Houfe before Eatter ; and that it would perhaps anfwer the Noble Baron's purpofe as well, if the fecond reading were to take place at the time he propofed, and the Bill be committed nn that day week. After fome few obfervations in explanation from Lord Eldon, the Bill was read a fart time. The other Bills on the table were pallid in their refpeetive naps, and the Houle adjourned till to morrow, Vane over, THF.AIRBROYAL; MUIR Y-LANE. • THIS PRESENT EVENING, FEBRUA RY t 7. will be acted the Comedy of THE BUSY BODY. After which, for the. 7th time, a New Ballet, called EMILY; • Or, JUVENILE INDHCRETION. To which will be added the Farce of THE IRISHMAN IN LONDON. tyOn Tburfday will be produced a New Comedy, written by .b e late L. Touts, Efq. called the CURT Etv. THEATRE ROYAL. COVEN r•GARDEN. THIS PRESENT EVENING. FEBRUARY i 7, will he aced the Play of THE JEALOUS WIFE. To which will he added the New Pan:mint:, called • MOTHER GOOSE ; Or, THE GOLDEN EGG. On Thurfday, the Tempel ; with Mother Gook