Star. — London, England, 1807-07-11 00:00:00

r*z`!_7l ' 1 1,1, I' \I 1 1 , 11 PAR LIAMENTART PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OP LORPS, JUDY to. Lord Vifentir t iiulkeley toult the oaths and his feat. In the Appeal 1 Thnmpfun is. 'fate." Mr. Adam and Sir Sa muel Romilly were heard for the Refpondent, aud Mr. Alexan der in reply. Judgment to morrow. Mr Banker, Mr. Hnbhoufe and feveral other Members of the Houfe of Commons, brought up the Office* Reg/anon Bill. the American Trade Indemnity Bill, Sir Paint Stuart's Annuity Bill, and the Kilmainham Hofpital Bill, which were read a deft time. The American Treaty Bill paffed through a Comnii - tee, and on the motion of Earl BATHURST, waterdercd to be read a third time on Monday. Mr. Smith, from the Commilfioners of Richmond Bridge pre tented their Cant Account, which was ordered to lie on the table. MILIT•RY Fnacs fly THI C.'UNTRY. --- Lord Vifcount SIDMOUTH raid, he had attended yefterday and to-day, in the expeetation of feting in his place the Noble Lord, who concluded the official bufinefs in that Houle, of whom he wiffied to ant a queftion, whether it was the intention of his Majefty's Government to bring-forward soy meafure in conk. quence of the preterit momentous erifis of affairs, and particularly any meafure relative to the amount and diftribution of the mili tary force of the country ? He confeffed that it was not altoge ther recent event, which had called his attention to this important fu - jedt, but when he confidcred the information recently received, be thought it of the utmoft importance that meafures Ibould be adopted without delay, calculated to meet with vigour and effeet the ioereated and incr afing dangers of the country. As, how ever, from fume bufinefs before 'the Houfe, he underflood that a full attendance was expeCted on Monday,he fhould defer till then his propofed queftion. Earl BATHURST faid, there having been nothing before the Houle for the laft two or three days which was expeeted to ex cite any difcuffion. and his Noble Friends having much bufinefs before them tlfewhere, they had not thought it neceffary to attend. On Monday, however, be had no doubt that the Noble Vifcount would receive a fatiefadtory acifwer.—Adjourned till to morrow (this day). HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. Alderman SHAW preknted a petition from the Matter Shipowners of the Port of London, againtt the Dover Pilots Re gulation Rill ; which petition was referred to the Committee up on the (Aid till, and it was ordered that Counfcl Ihould be heard for and againft the petition. Mr. LONG gave notice of a motion for Tuefday for leave to bring in a hill to enable the Trultees of the Britifh Mufeum to dif pofe of certain articles belonging thereto. A rrfort prefented at the bar certain Accounts from the Corn gniainers of Richmond Bridge.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. LESLIE FOSTF R. gave notice of a motion for to morrow, that the Houfe Ibould refolve into a Committee to confider of the Aft with regard to Hapitals in Ireland. Mr. HOBHOUSE brought up the Report of the Committee on the irigh PrOvifions Bill.---Leave given to bring in a Bill purfuant to raid Refolutions. Mr. HOBHOUSE brought up the Report of the Coffee Ware holife Bill. Mr. FOSTER brought in the frith Diftillery Regulation Bill. --Read a fit*, and ordered to be read a fecond time to-morrow. Mr. SHARPE gave notice that he would upon fome future oc • cation take the fen fe of the Houfe on the general fulled of Lotteries. The frith I.icence Spirit Retail Bill, the Itifh Office Regulation Bill, and the Irian Mkt. Tax Bill. were feverally read a firft time, and ordered to be read a fecond time to-morrow. Mr. HOBHOUSE brought up the Report of the Powerfcourt The Irian Glebe }lnure Bill was read a third time and paffed. The Patina Apprentice Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. The Stock Re Tories Bill was read a teem(' time, and commit ted to &Ica Committee. The f bre* Millions Exchequer Bill went through a Committee, and the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The One Minima Five Hundred Thoufand Pounds Exchequer Bill went through a Committee, and was ordered to be received 41114 , to-niorronr. The Copyholders' Relief Bill was read a fecona time, and ordered re be committed for Monday. Mr. HOBHOUSE moved that the Petition of the Philanthropic Society be referred to a Seledt Committee, laid Comrsittee being of a private nature.—Ordered. IRISH INSURRECTION BILL. Sir ARTHUR WELLESLEY brought up a Bill for preventing Infurreftioos in Ireland, and a Bill for preveuting improper per fon' there having arybs.--Rcad a firft, and ordered to be read a fe cond time on Tburfday. ELECTION PETITIONS. - _ Petitions were prefented complaining of undue returns for Chippenhun, Kin cardi °rehire, Malden,Penryn, Beverley, Ma'mei bury, Eaft Grinftead, Bridgewater, Cbriftchurch. Newcaftle• under Lyng, and Weitmitifter. The Petition refpeeting the latter was from the Right Hoonurahle R. B. Sheridan, and certain Elestors, complaining of bribery. treating, &c. on the part of Lord Cochrane. The whole of thefe petitions were appointed to be taken into confideration, on Saturday the 'lsth inftant. From which order it it inferred that they will not be gone into in the cohtfe of the prefent fetfions. lIIISTOL HIRT BILL. The fecund reading of the Briftol Port Bill being moved, Mr. B BATHURST, notwithitauding that an oppofition was intended to this meafure, endeavoured to thew that fuch an inten tion proceeded from a mikonception of its chara&ter. He Rated, that the objea of the bill was to procure further aid for the corn. pletion of a molt material work of national utility, upon which a :arge fum had already been expended air THOM AS TLIRTON difapproved of any further grant fot the purport which this bill had in view; 30,000 L had been already obtained from the public for this-45,0031. more were applied Tor !aft seems_ but now the rum fought for was no Ids than 78,rvaol. and all this for an undutaking from which the public derived no advantage—while thole engaged in the Weft Judie Trade com plained loudly of the inconveniencies to which they were hashed iP the port of Briftol Sir JOHN NEWPORT was peculiarly jealous of any meafure of this nature. where a company promifed in the Brit intlance to execute a great public undertaking fora certain fpccified fum, and afterwards came t o Parliament for further aid. But the fait was that this company neither realty wanted DC, deferred fueh For it was remarkable that although the work to which the bill referred was produaive of no advantage to the public, the pro prietors *dually derived a profit from their refperStive [hares.— Let then thole profit • be applied to complete the Work. and let stet the public he burthened for theparticular bentfir of individual.. Mr. BA VLY and Mr. DILLON fpobe nn the Lie at the !aft fpeaker ; and the Haute divided, For the Bill--spe-Agalult it 88. Majority 33.--01 count the Bill was loft. INDIA •TIPAItS• Mr it DUNI) tS foggefted to an Hon. Earowet (Sir T. Tar. ton) the propriety of poftpooing his motion with regard to the Pofygars as the papers on that rut jet% were not ready to be laid before the Heide. Sir THOMAS TURTON acceded to the fuggeftion, and poft paled his Motion to this day fennight. Mr. it DI; N OAS announced his intention of bringing forward the India Budget on Monday ; and upon the motion of the Right Honourable Gentleman. Accounts were ordered to be laid before the Houle, (if the Revenue and Expenditure of the leveret Pren donde, o f g e ,gal, Madras. Bombay, Fort William, Fort St. George, and Botitbiy, and bf our Settlements in Ind:a. The Petition of General Martin *as, upon the motion of Mr. Vanfittart, referred to a Stied Committee, with orders to report thereon. M. H. MARTIN put his motion with regard to certain-ad /epees madt by the . 1 'calmer and the Paymafter of the Forces, from the year tS. s up to the lateft period at which the fame could be made out, in the torte !led form fuggrftcd to him is the imtive , fation which took place upon the fubjeft ytfterday, and the Motion was agiced to. Mr. GRAN i• moved. that the Hoofe &mid go into a Commit tee on the petition of the Eaft India Company. praying for /aye to talk money nn bonds, inftead of increaCiog their capital. Mr Clth V P.Y repeated bas former affection, that a previous ftatemcot of the' Company's affairs ought to haw been made; but, as lonic ititormati , .n wt uld probaltly loon bs acquired oo the fub ket. he wuu.d ttn• ol , iedt to the motion. The SPEAK , R then left the Chair. After a few words front Mr R. MINIMS, Mr. W. SMITH, Sir T. TuR VOr, Mr WAI I ACF,and Sir ARTHUR WSL -I,,ESI.EY. Mr. GRAM' m•ved, that the Hattie be moved thee i t 'ive be gives to brit% in a Bill to enable the Company to rate Two Millions by. 'l4 4.4. traced of tusreafing their. tiono;kowTbio Refolstiost who agreed de.—Report tuletorrow. euswilerrns IT.IICTIt'W. Mr. R. THORNI bH prefeuted a y-titi,m - eomplatniag of An undue return for (*therapy . ... in Devo , i...-urdsred to be taken into conaderation on the 35th of this too h. fte••TS IntoGis. Mr. ADAM num d that an humble Addrefs he prefented to his Majefty, praying that he would lie pleated to order the proper Officer to lay (5,1 the Fable Copie• of al. Warrants for Pei.fions to Judges of the Court rat Senn in Scotland or to the (Won• of the Excheque , . G.'ee 1786, particularly the Warrant for a Grant to Lord Stutiefield. in 1793 And alto for one to Lord Meth.en, in 1804, fpccifying the arrears paid to his Reprefentativet —.- Ordered. IRISH AFTAIRS. I.Ord HOWICK adverted to the ttatement of Mr. Feder the other day. that tl a Infh Grants were the fame at propofed lalt SetEoo He underßood thete was a difference in the Grant to the Seminary at Maynooth, as it was propore.l to take off the ad• ditional part, and to reduce it to the old funi, He hi ped the Right Honourable Gentleman would agree to put off the moving of this Grant, as there were fosse perfuns not prcient, who would with to fay fomethiug upon it Mr. FOSTER bad only raid that the eßimates were the fame, he had not Gid a word uto the Grants. He law no neeellity fur the addition—but he bad nO objeCtion to poftpo,e the tootion.-- lt was accordingly puftponed ti.l Wednefday. TOULON ?NAZI ht •Nar. Sir C. POLE adverted to the Reiulution palled by thit Houfe in the year 1804, with refpedt to the payment of thole who were concerned in the capture of Toulon. It would be recollected that a large and liberal fum had been voted upon that occafion, which (um was not yet diftributed, and in confequence of the deity anJ difficulty complained of by tilde who were entitled to a (hare of this prize money. he felt it a duty to move that there be laid be• fore the Houk an account of the feveral runts iffurd from the Treafury to the Agents of Lord Hood. &e. from the 290,, of March, 1804, Rating the dates of each iffue, amil the Cum total. Alto an account of the payments adtuallr made to the feveral clefts of the Army and Navy, together wit'• a lt.tement of the balance remaining in the hands of the Agents, and alto the ba lances in the Trcafury. Mr. ROSE was not aware that fuck an Account could b! made out in aim of the offices as that which rcerred to the balances in the hinds of the agents. Sir C. POLE thought, that when the amount of the iffues from the balance in the Treafury was afcertained, what related to the agents might be eafily made out. Mr. HUSKISSON obferved, that the Trcafury was ready to iffue the whole of this fum at the time it was voted. Hut from the difficulty in akertaining the fevetal claimants, which difficulty was naturally to be ezpedied from the time that had elspfed fince the capture of Toulon. it was deemed more satiable to iffue the money from time to time. The balances which now remained in the Trcafury, which he fupprifed about aopool. would he advan ced as foon as the juttiee of the demands was made known. After a few words more from Sir C. POLE, the motions were agreed to. ARMY RRTURNS. Mr. WINDHAM moved for a Return of the Number of Men railed for the Regular Army in each Month, from the lit of Ja nuar 1807, to the lateft period. and of the correfpnpuding periods, in 1805 and 1806, -by ordinary recruiting, and the Additioual Force Ael. The SECRETARY at WAR laid, he bad no ohjedion to this Account, with the following amendment, " diftinguilhing men from boys." with which amendment the motion was agreed to. Mr. WINDH AM then moved for a Return of the Number of Defertions Monthly, from the Army at Home, from the tit of Ja nuary, x So 7, to the Welt perind, and the correfponding periods, its s Soy and doh, fpecifying the effedlve fircngth of the Army, and diftinguifbing Ireland from Great Britain —Ordered. Mr SHERIDAN laid, that, in confequence of what had been fand to him by feveral Members on both fides of the Houfc, re (petting the Order for the Eaclufion of Strangers, he Ihould de cline bringing forward the motion of which he bad given notice. The ofiCRETARY at WAR Rated, that he would on Monday move certain Refolutions with regard to the Army. sUPPLIES. The Hoare went into a Committee of Supply. Mr. F( TER moved the following fupplies: Irith Cur. frith Civil Buildings from January 1607 to Jan. iSoll 25,000 Two hundred copies of the frith Provifion A. 1,100 Expenee of Advertifements iu the Dublin Gazette, Ike. 10,500 Printing and Stationary - 1.300 Criminal Prufccutions and other Law Charges is .000 . Apprehending Public Offenders . 2400 Non conforming Minifters - • 9,400 Port of Dublin - • - 1,6 0 7 Coal Mines....,Wicklow - 600 • Accountant General - - To the Trultces for encouraging the Linen and Hemp Masu fa:tures 5t,600 • Board of Fir ft Fruits • 3,0c0 Clothing the Heralds - - 1,086 Clothing the Battle-awe Guards - • 740 Society for encouraging Englifh Proteftant Schools 13,170 Foundling Hofpital - - 11.500 Hibernian Marine Society - - 1,609 Hibernian School for Soldiers Children i t.6a6 • . Female Orphan Hoorn - 1,306. Society for SupprelLng Vice - ' 1.16 s Weftmoreland Lock Hofpital - 7 , 957 • }inure of Induftry—Dublin - 15,997 Houle of Recovery 3.091 • • Lying in Hufpital - 2,500 Dr. Stephen's Holpital - - 5 0 3 !mended Surgeon's Hall " 94 1 7 Dublin Hufbandry &Kitty, including s„eciol. to the Cork Society (or applying Science to the common Purpofes of Life - 12000 Farming Society of Ireland - 5, 000 • Commiffioners of Dublin Streets - 4,5 0 0 Duii's Hofpital - 6,104 Aommiffunet • of Inquiry in the Irith Fees and Emolu• 340 'rents of Offices. fur three years All theft Ref°lotions were agreed to. Mr. PERCEV Al. poßponed thebringing forward the kith Lot • tery Report till to-mot row. it ,cOO THE WATT. Lord COCHRANE role, purfuant to notice, to make his promifed motion, with regard to the State of the Navy. The Noble Lord began by profeffing that his only with in the entitle he was about to take Was, to promote the interett of the Country, by calling the attention of the Houle to eircumttanees which were materially injurious to the Naval Service, upon which the Country fo effen'ially depended.— lie declared, upon his honour, that he wee not ac tuated by a &fire to take any retrolpedive view, or to throw blame upon any man—but to point the attention of hlinitters to the grievances of a molt meritorious body of men, in the anxious with and hope that they who had the power would apply the remedy. The Noble Lord laid, his &II motion would refer to the cafe of the Phomix and Atalante ; and with regard to the former, lie read a letter from an Officer belonging to her, acing that fhe was quite unfit to keep the lea, although obliged to remain on fery ice. This letter further complained of want of frefh provifions ; and, eight days, after it was written, the vet c! went down. As to the Atalante, he witneffed her condition hirnfelf ; and although, after a remora. 'trance as to her urfitnefs, the was furveyed by order, I and pronounced unfit to keep the lea, yet the was wrec ked a few days after (he had been provifioned for fix weeks ; and indeed, he prediaed it to the builder at Plymouth. Bur, in taft, fuck was the 'condition of I the Navy, and the treatment that body experienced, that as many men, or nearly double, hid been toR off Rochefort, under the fyttem of which he .com• planed, as would have cut out any Beet that had been in Rochefort harbour. But, to return to the , fiticetlix and Atalante, the Noble Lord moved for the• production of all the ' fficiAl letters and documents ; which related to thete 'effete. i His nett motion the Noble Lord dererilsed to refer • to the li♦te 4ikl treatment the 4=o rittt, that of B•ell he ennfidered to have been particolarl/ aggrieved. The Pia *t•genet, for inflance, had been no lets than eight month. kept on that dation, doting which an order was &int,' enforced, that no rrffiesr thould go out of the (hip. He had alio to ltate, that the men in this fleet, who were fit only for the hofpi. al, were not fent there. The entre& nefs of Itatements he propofed to thew horn the papers to which his motion referred. Another motion, the Noble Lord Rated, had in view the produetion of an account of the teeth provi fiont fent to the Channel fleet for a certain period. The Noble Lord referred to Cooke's voyages, to !hew the means by which the men under that com mander were faved from the fcurvy,—which means ought, in his judgment, to be introduced into the Navy. Alter tome remarks on the nature of lime juice. of the ufe of which he difapproved, the Noble Lordproceeded to animadvert nn the anctentprsdice of the Navy. When a !hip had been out for fme months, the eullom was to allow her to retitle' to port, and aff erd the crew fame opportunity for re fronsment. But under the late Commander in Chief of she Channel fleet, into whore conduEt the late Admiralty did not think proper to look, no fuch confideration was at all regarded. Indeed, lie hap-. pened to know of an intlance of a man of war, which had been at lea for feveral months, come into port, where the was allowed to remain only five dap, eluting which neither officer nor man was pertni•ted to put a font out of the (hip. Such rigour, inch cruelty, he could not helitate to condemn, and the m-re in, when he refl:fled that when it was praaifed, the individual from whole order it proceed ed, the Commander in Chief, was hirofelf on (Lore, in London, at a dillance from toil and danger, en joying the falary of his office. Such, indeed, Was the example exhibited in the cafe of that Commas der's abfence from his flzet, while he received the pay, that he fhould not be furprifed to fee tome fu tore Miniaer confer the office upon tome fool or c rad—make the office of Commander in Chief of the Channel fleet a means of corruption, and reduce it to a finecure as complete as any which had been lately tlifcuffed in that Houfe. From this part of the fubjtet the Noble Lord pro. ceeded to animadvert on the neceffity of attending particularly to his next motion, which related to the (late of the Naval Holpital4. In confequence of the regulations e(lablilbed in iflos, in thole infli tutions, men were frequently refuted admittance, and the molt deplorable confequerices were known to follow. There was, indeed, a grievance connec ted with this point, which had made a hong impref fion upon his mind; that was an order, rigidly en forced, that no man, whatever hi; date of health, was permitted to be fent to the hofpital from any of the (hips of the Channel fleet, unlefs previonfly exa mined, and allowed by the furgeon of the comman der in chief. The mifchiefs refuhing from this ar rangement were notorious in the Navy. In confe quence of the inconvenience and difficulty, if not tmpoffibility, of itri furgeon's going from !hip to (hip at all (talons, fufficiently often to guard againft or remove the fubjeAs of various difeafes, deaths and amputations ton frequently enfued before fuch fur geon's examination could take place. There was another luhjeEt of complaint which ap• peared to him peculiarly ruinous, and with regard to which he had a motion prepared. When the cry of economy was the order of the day in the Naval de pattment, the lint& and Country mull be furpriied to hear of fo angular art application of it as in li miting the medicines allowed to the Navy. Some indeed of the indifpenfable medicines were cut off, particularly thole which are fu much required when' . vac's are going out to lea. The economilts of that day teemed to confider the bralth of men as a thing of trifling a -count, compared to their favourite princi ple. He remembered to have teen a vettel going out to lea with no lets than 70 men tick, and fit only for the hofpital, but into the hofpital they would not be admitted, becaufe truly their cafe was fuch as the country excluded. So per tinacioufly were thefe re gulations oblerved, that although he once tent a Lieutenant with two men to the Plymouth hofpital, he could nit ob ain their admiffion. The difeafe of the one was pronounced quite inadmiffible, and though fent through fleet and rain, the only day for . nearly three weeks in which they could go afhore ; the other man, who had a rupture, was alto refuted, and the Country would be alloniffied, if not indig nant, to hear the reafon ; becaufe the poor man had not been hung up by the heels at the gangway, in a rolling lea, in order to reduce the rupture. Why the evils conneAed with this fyftem had not been before fubmitted to Parliament and the public, he could not pretend to fay. Peehap., men might have been prevented from expofing it, from motives of delicacy or perfonal interest ; but no filch confi derations (hould reQrain him from the performance of a great public duty, to which, from its nature, he felt it peculiarly incumbent upon him to attend. The fyflern of Naval hofpitals relented, unhappily for the num, a variety of grounds to excite pity and jai& ceafure. In Military hofpitals the fubjee's were infinitely better treated. There Come little luxuries were allowed to fuit delicate stomachs, and to promote the revival of depreffed fpiriti ; and where could fuch Luxuries be more necefrary than to poor ( - cameo, with difeafed conflitutions, after being eight or nine months living upon fah provifions, at fear But in naval hofpital., no fuch luxuries were to be had ; no eggs, no wine were allowed. He knew of an intlance in which a Lieutenant who was dangeroufly ill was refuted a cup of egg wine. The anfwer was, that nu fuch thing was allowed, and the confequence of the relufal was the death of the Lieu tenant. this regulation wa , otaintaiurd on the ground of economy—indeed this economy had gone to cud) a length as to reduce the quantity of lint before al lowed to the furgeons. In confequence of which, that in many cafes there was not for the purple of the wounded, enough of this article, to material for de, although fo trilling in value. The resinftion of this article had taken place under the orders of one of thole unworthy perinns who were flirnaworthilf appointed, by an ofEcer, whom perhapc s it was pot neceffary for him to name (a Cr, of admit, saw) by Earl St. Vincent, obferved the Noble: Lord, thefe appointments were made—and under his regulations the navy have endured the fuffetiogs I have faintly defcrined. Though theltertd by the plea of economy, a greater loci has, I contend, tcfulted to this country tho can ever he compinfatest by any ravings eve. T nomy is capable of producing—l mean in the Eve ' of men. - Even were it potfible to confider the valet of thete lives in a rrciisii try view, which, I never can, it would legitii e more m ,, ney to lupply the loties fußained by the appfica inn of economy in the man. ner l have defctibed, than could be well imagined. Indeed the grievances of the navy have been to feve re through rigour, mifiamed difcipline; through tri g , gardlinefs, milnanied economy ; that I can t c , nothing in the chat after of that body more merits. t ions than the patience with which they have lubmit. ted to thnfe grievances. The N 'Me Lord conclude 4 with making his lira en Ilion relative to the Phcen 4 and Andante; whin being fcconded by the Hoc. Mr. Dillon, Sir SAMUEL HOOD rofc, and expelled hi t altnnithment at the Itatements and obfervatinns which he had jolt heard ; which really were fuch that Me had hardly thought it poffible that they could hate come from fu gallant an Officer. If any thing tic "if blame, laid the Honourable Officer, attaches to th e I lots of the Atalante and the Poconix, that blame i t attributable to me and to Commodore geates. But the fad is, that the lots of the Atalante was Oct a t all owing to her having been in a bad Rate. She it drove :thine in a !well upon a fine day, and if Ott hvd not been found her crew could nut have bees Paved. But the Noble Lord could not afcribe blame in .confequence of this velfel'i going athote.—For fuch an accident was no proof of negled on the ' wt of the officers. No centime C )Uld apply to them any more than it could to the condud of the Noble Lord himfelf, when he 101 l his (hip Tome time fince. A,clear underltanding oldie cafe, therefore, was only necelttry to refute this part of the Noble Lod's charges, and to thew that neither the officers nor any other perfon could be fairly blamed for the fate of the Atalante, for that fate was owing to an accident against which any commander, however vigilanr,might he utterly unable to guard. Now, as to the Phi:suit, that velfel perifhed in a gale of wind in St. Andero Bay, where the w as fcnt with a %Jig of trace. She remained four Jays in lb: bay, and, had the roundel% vela in the navy been in the fame fituatiou in a gale . ' of wind, the would have very little chance, if any, of efcaping a fimilar fate. Indeed, there was ample proof that the Phccoix was not in a bad Rate—but when (he was in pert the Lieutenant wanted to go afhore to fettle his accounts, and was refuted. There . is the fecret—and hence probably this charge. Ido ' not mean to impure to the Noble Lord any difpufi tion to Rate any thing which he does not himfelf (trial) , believe. But the Nable Lord may be, I know he has been, tnifinformed, and when he comes fur. ward with fuch miliinformation to breed cid - content in the Navy, I feel it my duty, as it is the duty of every man who retpeds the belt Intel efts of that body, to refit} him. With regard to what the Noble Lard has Paid about provifions, and ficknets and medicines. I challenge trim to prove any of his allegations. I failed from Plymouth, and when I recoiled it, I cannot help laughing at the Noble Lord's Itatement. I had revel al men rick on board, but they recovered at lea. I had in one engagement 3o men killed and too wounded, and there was no loch thing at a want of medicines or lint—nothing of the kind was to be heard of. lam fully of opinion, that none of the Noble Lord's ahertions on this fubjea can be maintained, (a cry of hear, bear.) I have, I think, fufficiendy replied to his Raternent relative to the Atalanreand Phoenix ; and I fee no good to which any part of his Itatemenrs can tend, though I can perceive in theta very throng grounds to apprthend ferrous mifchief, (a univerfal cry of hear, bear.) But the Noble Lord mull be met and answered, to-guard against that miG chief. The tendency of his language being to excite the molt injurious agitation, 1 (ball ever deprecate it (a loud cry of bear, hear.) I will oppufe him and his motions. Admiral HARVEY followed Sir Samuel Ho d, whole fentiments he highly complimented and ci.r dially concurred in.—He deprecated the attempts made perpetually to harafs a gallant meritorious old Officer [cry of bear ! hear !•] He had no hefitatioa in laying, that the grounds of attack appeared quite fallacious. For himfelf he could confidently 1,11, that he never law any •carcity whatever of medicines, forgeons Rotes, or provilion. on board any lip that came under his rhfervation Admiral MARKHAM never rote with more re- Ott. becaufe he did feel the ;Irma apprehenfion, that the died of fuch a difcuffion as that provoked by the Noble Lord, would do material injury to the difcipline of the Nary. No redrefs had ever been applied for to the Admiralty upon any of the grounds Rated by the Noble Lord ; and in what condition, he would alt, was the Navy to be placed, if an in ferior Officer could bring his Commander in Chief to the bar of that Houle? With refpeCt to the time a fhip ought to be at lea, that depended on the necef Pity of the cafe, and not oa the will of a Commander in Chief. But a good Officer would not be forward .to complain of fuch a thing. His Honourable Friend who (poke lag, was thirteen months off Cape Finif- Aetre. and his Honoutable Friend WA/preceded him, was five months off Rochefort ; yet neither were ever heard to complain. No ; they knew their duty too well, and, like good Officers, were reconciled to it. As to the injury to the health of the men, by keep ing (hips at lea, he would maintain that nothing was more erroneous than the notion of the Noble Lord, for the fa.f.t was, that it always fo happened, that feamen came alhore to get rick, and went to lea to rt healthy. [A laugh, •31.1 ry of hear, hear l] A. oi the charge about frefh provitions, the Honourable Officer maintained, that nothing could be more un tenable ; for frelh provifions were feat to the fleet as often as they could be necefrary, and in the belt fate that was prafticable to convey them. With regard to furgeon's nom, they were fupplied under the ad. miniltration of Lord St. Vincent, precifely according to the plan laid down by either Lord Melville, or Lord Barham, he could not recollett which ; and this was the fird day he had ever heard it fated, that there was any fcarclty whatever of thefe Roles. 41, however, fuch Roles were wanted, why not apply to the )frxecutive Gower pment. and not bring it for. ward in that Houfe ? Unlefs filch an application prat found ineffeaual, he contended that fuch a bu. fines ought not to be brought before that Heroic. —As to the order for having perfons reviewed by the ftirgeon of the Commander in Chief heroic they were lent to the Hoipital, he explained that t with a view to prevent men from acing thus difpofed of who %%CU fit to terve. Fur while officers could lend , men to the Hufeitaltm the nitre certificate of their 0414