Star. — London, England, 1804-04-24 00:00:00

Tre.rrilt•,the tatorefaithtnlftrtice theywitt ••renaer you, sal that arms can he not only put into their hands with filety, hit with u.e in the vay of preventing tumult, of 3 4 .Eiting the police, and of reltrainhl de predation. I own t din& it a ronft defirahle thing to promote this ipecies of civil &fence even in time of peace, atat the military may not be related to on e-ery oceafion. But in time of war what weld(' he the ineftiniabte valise of Each a force ? Suppole the snemy landed in great nod commanding number:— Let us tuppofe what however we do not believe will hapocn—that the e•ent of a battle fhotild be dil& trolls in the Eoglitll army. With every poiEble rt fpe6t for the bravery of our troops, the limpolition ought to he imagined, and the calamity guarded spina. in that cafe, what would be the conk quence if yon had an armed peafantry That the enemy would reap no advantage beyvrad the actual field of battle. They would even after their viaory remain in a Rate of pofitive impotence. They could Ma afterwards fcour the country—they could nut fend to any town, village, nr even to any farm for a eagle load of hay. without a detachment and an akort—they mull be broken into a thoufand pats to provide themfelves with food. and he enfeebled by their divifion; or -ritherwiCe they mat be confined to the identical fpot of their glory, while out ownbeaten army would have time to recover and to reinforce • Its ranks. I !Fate it fairly, becaufe we muff view both fides of a queflion. The greatell courage, engaged • in the ben cattle, does not always command fuccefs ; hot let us view the other fide. Suppole what is much more likely to hapr..n, that an army of freemen lighting for the fecority of all that was dear to them .lhould beat the invaders. What would be the con fequence of a tingle viftory n to them ? The annihila• lion of the enemy I It wou ld not be as it is between Mactemling armies, in a martial tetritory where the thisabitants were Quiet fpeftators of the battle ; but . bent a vanquilhed enemy could find no filcher; no fufpenfion ; no breathing time ; no recovery. No cal. I • lying point could he found in a country where every • man was armed, and where every hedge was an in-, trenchment. I recommend this fpecies of defence - the more carnality, becaufe it will be the means of =tweeting all the errors into which we have fallen, 'and I mull take blame to myfelf. in common with .others, for having Coffered an affertion to (land as part of the preamble to the Defence Bill, which is 'utterly untenable in cooßitutional law. It certainly is impollible for the Members of that Houk to watch • ever every word and fentence of every Bill that is brought in. And therefore the particular authors ,of each Bill are looked to as more peculiarly refpon• .fible fen glaring errors. I believe that 99 ont of too nikEtspati without being critically and carefully exa mined as they ought to be, by the Members of the Hook, continent with their thief and rigid duty.— But it is in a particular way the duty of Miniliers, that no Bill shall be foffered to alien any falfe or -dangerous doetine, in the perfuafion that it may pats unobferved in the hurry of legiflation. In July 58,3. the alarm of invafion was fo imminent, accor ding to Minillers, that the Defence Bill mull be pal fed hy acclamation—and the zeal of the country being proofed to meet the invafion, which was to take place 'is. Auguß ; no time was to be 101 l in weighing and judging of the Bill. Accordingly I find we over looked a moll krious declaration in the preamble of the Bill, and which certainly if I had fern, I fhould have exerted the utmoll efforts of my mind to have corm/led, namely. " that the King has a right to command all his liege fubjeas to take up arms,' &e. a doftrine which, to be admitted as true, ought to have been qualified and defined. It may be Paid that his Majefiy has the right to do juftice ; but he is to do juftice according to law. And fo is the prerogative of calling forth his people in arms. It mug undoubtedly be laid of any community, that they muff pads the means of preferring themfclves, and that, on the principle of the fear papal firma ma the power of calling forth the phyfical firength of the community mull refide in it ; and that the King, as the head, reprefents the community, and is the organ of its will. But this fpeeies of reafon ing would jollity the moll arbitrary affections; and all fuch reafoning the fpirit of our conflitotion ut terly reprobates. The rights which our Sovereign poffeffes are defined as well aslimited. And this has been moll fenfibly as well as ably Rated by a great Judge, who, freaking of this fort of abilraa right, made tale of there words—" For I freely declare, that " ancient precedents, unlefs fupported by modern o ufage, in cafes of prerogative, have little weight ss with me." N•ohitig can be more true than thefe words at the learned Mr. Jtirtice Fofler; and nothing can be more applicable to this drange afTertinti in the preamble of this A. No loch right can be claim• ed by the King. No fuels right, however it may have been part orate undefined prerogative in ancient times, can be exercised after the words of the Ilatute in the zgth of Edward 111. a Ratute made in an epoch which I re'pet:. becaufe the flatutes of that peitod wete nt:.rked his their wifdom, and by the principles of found le i ttlati,n. In a flatute of that year i 7 is ex p:efly ueclared, " no perfon 16.11 be liable to (erre but Inch as ate bound by their tennres." It', indeed, axle were loch a pi cirgative it would be iu.vraa;cable. The ‘ , .nflittithat Lad %vilely planted an int-parahlz eh:A over the Awe, and, thank Goo. not ,i•t the aoti,•iit nalelined prey, v rives eau be eseicited araintt the liberties of the people. To what an event, aid to what complete overtlimw of every rhi i . g f or which our Nocella% have fuccefsfully con• tended sinned this tight ;,o? Motley has been, p::rhap% bv trained m..tap:ior.,:alled the fn.csesnt war. If his NT.,. : a.1%. had , %e. right of commanding the military kr viceot his tul.itcl•,he mutt ;silo be tuppoied to have the right iii maint.iinin.zilicm:andt..tlic powei u. the pot fe ht raison .rut i t tiie ban hot the Rcprefertatives I ILL: thit only to fht.v Low itopro i:,:e it i. to introduce inch .111 es. late, anB theti `to any ?art of the coaa, * Ste. ' This Aft, thet - ercrre, without any or qualitica: tion of rank, age, or Ration, empowers the King to compel any indivl.dual, however ant for military lcrvice, to terve in the ranks eiatlly on the tooting of vilified coltFers, to be fabjea to all thc feveritizs of military duty and of martial law. If this really be the prerogative of his Maj-fly, it is one which can not be contemplated withoot an:tiety. Not to fopprfe the exiflence of great and violent abuce, it is fufficient to know that Arch power is liable to abufe ; and no man with the fentiments of freedom and thc confi• dance of independence can feel pet feetly eary to think that re a law fo unmitigated and fo unqualified he may be fubjeft• Is it potliblc to reflect on fuch a power without feeing bow it may be abufed and per verted ? It 'may be an extreme cafe, indeed, to (late that its fireeping-proVifions give authority to the King to take the Prince of Wales, place him under the command of his footman, and march him in that inferior capacity tgaintt the enemy. I know that loch a.cafe is impotlible, but it illuflrates the bound left authority which the Att rotate's, and which in rnOny inflancei it is quite eafy t. , c..nceive might be eieretted. Might not a tiadefrnan or•a farmer be hurried away firm his farailv anJ occtipmi..n h and placed under the command of a corp"tal their own fervants? Perfilis of every lima :11,y be pitched upon by malice or by teveng., a • perform military fervice for which the. AI . I tee that fuch a fcheme of things does • ..al to ;shore, and the monfirous abufe and ii with which the executionnf it would ne arrende..,miiithave prevented the attempt to carry it into eclat at all I do not underaand exadly the mode in a hich theft pro vifions are to be reduced to pradice. T the quota o f men to he furnithed by a parifh, was to be herd by bal lot, the inconvenience might frequently he very great, even where a fence of abille did nr.t aggravate the cafe. The ballot might, without any of rank, age, or circumaances, compel any man to ferve in perfon. In truth a principle .nore inconfiflent with that found and rational equality which all laws and all human inflitutions ought to aim at in the impo6 lion of burdens, never was devifed. In pradice it mull be produdive of extreme inequality, hardfltip, and grievance. From a true equality the principles of fubordination flow, but in the operation of fuck meafures as this, all dittindions are annihilated, and every thing is levelled under the difcretion of the Crown. Indeed Minillers themlelves on come oc c a. lions have acknowledged enough to (hew that they were themfelves convinced that the General Defence Ad could not be carried into pradice. It was laid by one of them, that the Defence Aft would " have given way" ; and in it mull, for fuch extravagant' powers could not have been exercifed without an ahole that would have proved fatal to the meafure. But Rill Mini tiers contended it had been of ufe, as it backed the Volunteer fyllem. What ! was it then thought necctrary to goad the people of this country forward in the defence of their hooks, their property, and their liberties, by the terror of thefe fevere pro. villons ? I am certain that the fpirit of the nation re quired no Inch fpur. Why fuch bugbears then ? Why thus compel the volunteers on, like a front rank by the bayonet of that behind it ? But. is truth what was this bugbear—Minifters admit that this ad might have given way ? What was the value of this threat, this flimulus of the General Defence Aa which had its ufe? At any rate, if the people wanted a fpur, as they do no!, would you employ a menace, which itt fad, had in it nothing that could really alarm. At lead you ought not to threaten what you cannot en force. I remember an anecdote of one of your prede ceffors, Sir, who is allowed to have maintained the dignity andauthority of the Chair, in arnannerfuperior to all thole whowent before him, however he may have yielded to thole who have come after him. It was a cuaom with that perfon (Mr. Speaker Onflow), when any Member was guilty of any irreularity, to cry " take care, Sir, or I will name you. ' And nn one oceafion, a Member ventured to whifper the Speaker, "And what would be the confequence if you did name me r' The Speaker replied, " GOD only hnows."— Now in the fame manner Miniaers have thought it convenient to keep up the terror of the General De. fence Aft. in order to Itimulate the Volunteers ; yet they are featfible, that the menace would fail them, and if they were to be alkcd, what would be the confequence of their threat ? their anfwer would be, Gun only knows ;" for nn man could think of put ting in pralice a meafure fo pregnant with opprcliion and iiijullice. In the Volunteer Bill, which was lately fo much the fubjed of dircuflion in the Houfe, it was argued to be unjust that a farmer fhould, againa his will, be dept'ved of the taboor of his fer vant ; arid this pt nvifion, I understand, has been al teted in the other Houle. But indeed it was of tittle conlequence to talk of the hardlhip of the farmer be ing deprived of his fervant, if he himiell was liable to be taken and fent to ferve in the army or militia, in Cornwall or Northumberland, or any other place the moll remote from his abode. But, in truth, the very atrocity of the fad made it impoilible to put it in caccutir.n ; fo that, in reality, it was as little cal crriated to be Willa, as it was altogether linnet cflary as a annulus to the zeal and to the patriotilm of the country. Has ing teen, therefore, that the GcneralDe fence All was neither neceffary in irrror.-m, and could be of :1/, a .Jil as a bugbear, what rtraftical good was t c.dcul.octl to afford in flrengthenrog our means of r,lnahrie, ? I have repeatedly !fated in 'hi t I lonic, that I conceived it defirable t hat, in addition to our other means of defence, we fhould have an armed peafanary. Miniders themfelves gn fo far as to fay, that an armed peafantry may be of life to back the Volunteers, as the latter will be of fervice to back the regular army. They have never, however, pro voted any rational praOical means by which this adsantage can be obtained. Let us, therefore, gu in to the Committce, arid d:fettb. the fubjed. Let us there try it we cannot des ife lime mode of arengtlien. a h rn av e :l , rc a ,: n j d , jrn ec p n ro p . 4 4e fred th their we may com i c)) their errors) remove their eon - L ' r ri te rer i l i t ub ril l ic el d r e u fte th t- a --- 1 tr adielions, and encreafe their effeit. I have ale:24 hinted the general, importance of calling f., 1 :1 1 t h e 'exetti,ais an armed peafantry, and in this, even they w:,o think mute highly of the volunteers tvill petit:illy concur, because the armed peafantry is not intended to fuperfede the volunteers. As to a de• -tailed plan on this head, I do not propole to trouble the Houle with any at prefent. Neither am I pre pared tc: lay how far this fervicc fhould he voluntary or compulfiny. That the voluntary zeal of the country would fimply every thing that could be de fired I am perfaliy cons inced. At the fame time, if it Ihould be thought necelitry to make the fervice in Come degree compulfory, I will not fay that it might n o t •roper to make firme provition for it. Ne; etthclefs, the means of calling forth that aid mull be freed from that injtdlice and inequality to which the General Defence Ail would now be liable.' —How likewife is this force to be armed ? Aad if mulkets cannot be furnillicd to all, Purely thole who are molt inclined to delpife the pike, mull admit that the pike is a much better weapon than fpades or pitch links, with which alone the peafantry are now aimed, even were they fo arrayed and organifed as to he capable of being employed with effea. There, however, and many other queltions which are natu rally conneited with the futnea, and which will no doubt be more particularly inilded upon this even ing, will be proper for the confideration of the Corn. mitre, which it is the purpofe of my motion to in flitute. I (hall therefore conclude with moving, that a Committee be appointed to take into confider. ation the ftate of the public defence." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. " Sir, I am induced to offer myfelf to your n Ake at this moment, rather than at a more advanced period of the debate, for the purpofe of combating the argu ments which the Hon. Gentleman has urged at con fiderable length, in fupport of one of the molt ex traordinary motions, that, within my parliamentary experience, has ever been fubmitted to the confide ration of this Houfe. I have another inducement alfo, arifing from tOme incidental circumaances in the fpeech you have juft heard, for trefpaffing, at this early hour, upon the attention of Gentlemen. The .Honourable Gentleman has alluded to the zeal and unanimity which at prefent (even he is candid enough to confers) pervades all ranks and clailes of fociety ; but hia approbation is qualified by the ob. (creation, that it is a zeal and unanimity folely to be attributed to the fear of invalion, inferring there by, that his Majefty's Minitlers, neither by their mcafures nor their conduit, have conduced either to excite or maintain it. The Hon. Gentleman has adverted to fume dircullions which took place at the commencement of the war; but it mull be in the re colleition of Gentlemen, that the obfervations which fell from - him on one of thole occafions, drew fords the reprehenlion of the Houfe—on another queftion, I had the benefit of that Hon. Gentleman's fupport. When a motion was made, the tendency of which was to condemn me and my colleagues for engaging in the war, that lion. Gentleman refufed to fupport it. By his vote on that queltion, he did, in the fullell and moll unqaalified manner, abfolve and acquit us en tirely from the guilt of having commenced that war. But, Sir, we do not depend for our jollification on the accidental approbation of that Hon. Gentleman, great as the effect of his approbation might be. We build it on much more folio and extended grounds, the al molt unanimous vete of this Houfe, by which it has been fanitioned and confirmed. I cone now to the Honourable Gentleman's prefent motion, certainly one of the molt extraordinary that has been ever brought before this Houle ; for which there is no precedent in the parliamentary hillory of this coun try; to which there is nothing analogous in the par liamentary tikes of this country; and which I am well jullified in deferibing as a nnealtire molt uncom mon and extraordinary, when coupled with the itrange and fingular matter that the Hon. Gentle. man has contrived to mix with it. The objea of his motion is to appoint a Committee, to revile the Ails that have been paired for the defence of the country, and to confider of and pros ide ad.:citrate means for the proteition of it in future. Sir, there is no man in this Houle who more highly values the privileges of Parliament than I do, there is no man in the Houle who will he more ready to :alert and maintain them. I know that by the conllitution it is invelled, and it is fitting it fhould be, with ver y great and exterdive powers, and I will not deny its ti, ht to inllitate a Committee for the pm-poles that are prorofed. Brit, Sir, while I admit the power of the !Joule to do this, I think I may lately anply to the dircretian of Gm Carmen, that they will not, by fuppor:ing the mo tion, countenance the ellahlilhment of a Committee, which, in its proceedings and refult :null terminate and become, to all intents and purpores, a Commit tee of a purely military nature. Such a Committee would be rather a novel and uncommon mode of manifefting either the authority or the prudence of this Hem*, and one to which, I am perluaded, it will not eafily recur, except upon much flrnnger grounds than tisc lion. Gentleman has brought for. ward in fupport of his motion of this night. There is fomenting peculiar alio in the matter of the I urn. Gentleman's motion. For realons peculiar to him. filf, no doubt, but which the Houle will have lit tle difficulty in Fuelling at, he has totally omitted all mention or .11tition whatever to the navy, and has wholly excluded from hia conlideration the I nor hundred thonfaral compoling fo eliesi nal a part of our mtaas of defence. Bust this pects• harity us not to Ise exclufively appropriated to the purport of his motion, or the vat ions details that it Is intend, d to embrace. He has fo word;:d it, as to take in all deferiptions of pen', as in thi. Houle, with all their 11-ating and coot' adiaory opia.ons ; one M:111 ol*fling to ton great ate. • one The Finn. Gentleman, as I Rated before, h i , b eer. ph. afo.l to declare, that the prefent unanimity mote eittirody front the attual danger of the country. lzaotv not lay what dexterity of argument the Hen. Gentlentan will be able to reconcile thole two ob• vations, that, as he rays, there is no clang:o o f invallun, and ag,in, that our unanimity is entio..y owing to it. Nor ant I very folicitous on t at head, whin 1 recollea, that during the laR war, tA,, t Honourable Gentleman continually airo•rted, that it was the injaniee of that war whiell prevented us from being unanimous then. Dri.ing that war, I believe it cannot be imputed to that Honourable Gentleman, that he ever earn: forward with any propels:ion to avert ally danger with which the country might have been menaced, Nor during the :lanai hoflility, has he ever favoured Majefty's Mininers with any projea or fuggeflior of his, or given them in any way whatever the ad vantage of his great talents. Indeed the Hon. Gen. tlernin has laid, that if Milliners had frankly corn- • municated to him that they were really apprehenlive of danger, he would have concurred in any augmen tation to the public force they might have thought neceiraty for the public defence. But, Sit, was it neceffary that this fhould have been made the fubje of particular and fpecific communication to him, or to any thinking mac in this country ? Is it poflibia that Hon. Gentleman would have Phut his eyes, and doled up his enlightened mind againft the aaive, un ceafing, and immoderate ambition of France, (lima lated and invited to the exertion of that ambition, and poffeffing the means of gratifying it, in the poi. fznion of fo many hundred leagues of lea coal, ex tending almoft from the Texel to the Adriatic? In the courfe of the Hon. Gentleman's fpeech, he has fre quently adverted, but with a partiality which I have reafon to complain of, to the declarations of Minifiem refpeaing the probable duration of the Peace of Amiens. Sir, we never did pledge ourfelves for the continuance of that peace. On the contrary, we always thought, and omitted no opportunity of de claring fo, that the bell fecurity for the continu ance of peace was to imprea France. and not only France, but all Europe, with a conviaion that oar firength, our fpirit, and our means, were whole and inexhaufted ; and that although we were willing to adhere to the peace we had made, we were ready for war, whenever infult or aggreffion, on the part of any power (herald compel us to it. It was. Sir, from thefe motives, that our peace eflarblifhment fo greatly exceeded the peace efiablilhment of 1792, an augmentation which brought down on ns the confure of the Hon. Gentleman. I come now to the Hon. Gentleman's motion, narrowed and reflriaed to a degree, inconfittent with his Wind candour, and unworthy of his great mind. He has thread his obfervations principally to the Regular and Militia force, omitting the Navy ard Volun teers, and has recommended, with his accullnmed zeal and perfeverance, the adoption of his favourite project of adding an armed peafantry. He has chiefly relied upon two points for the appointment of this Committee, from which he affeas to fuppofe, that In many advantages may bc derived : one is, that the pernicious principle of recruiting by com petition may be abolifbed in it, and next, that the extent of fervice may be altered from life to a term of years. I unit I (hall be able to prove, to the fati_faaion of th: Houle, that it would not be juaified, that it would not be prudent nor adrift able in it, to proceed to the formation of fuch.a Committee, upon fuch (light and infufficient reafons as have been mentioned. My Noble Friend who fits near me, (Lord Catilereagh), has Jived, from authentic documents, that although the recruiting for general fu vice was not fo great at prefent, as it was on former occauions, yet that it was as great as circumnances gave usa sight t r cape& When Gen tlemen, Sir, are informed, that the perfons who are entrulled with his Majefty's Government, were com pelled to collet% and take out of your population no left than zoo,ooo men for the purl:tore of recruiting your army and your navy, and that within the (pace of little more than twelve months they will ceare to exprefs any furptize that the recruiting fervice fhould have experienced a momentary celfat ion ; when I de clare to this houle, on the part of that Government. that there is at prefent a regular force in this country and in Ireland, compufed of troops of the Line and Militia, of no h-fs than 184,0c0, I wilt it will be ac knowledged that his Majelty's Nlinifiers have not bion waifs or improvident in making adeqttate piepara ticns for the defence of the country. When gentle men relic& upon the difficulties we had to encounter. that we had the islilitta to raife, that we had the As my of the Line to rccr nit, that see had the Army of Referve to eflablifh, that we had the Defence Atl to prepare, arid that we have a regular army, Line and Militia, of ,54,000, that we have acro,ooo Vo lunteers, that we have zo,ooo Sca Fencibles,indepcn dent of troops in Ober points, in r,art icons and in ei4o - Making in the whole a rorce little lhor t ot eight hun t!, intiurnbet by acie,oco t han r. it eon-thin. of the enemy can bring for ward. I fay. Sir, when Ineh difficulties and Inch fucecfres ate wei:ibod aphid each other, I train the Houk and the conort y Wi!l admit that we arc not that in capable and inc, mpctent defeription of men the H.nn. Mover of ti•C 4,!it,llinn before you cndeaveurs to rept dent us. Ti.i , Sir, could he proved by 41,- cunit.:ll the mcfl arnhcatic and iriclragable; and titoo,y b, fur many te.ifans which will be obvious to Gentlemen, 1 feel lhr.'n objo:lion to the produc tin rit tech inl••trratko, yet I will content to give thole Gentlemen, nl.O mat, the want of it a ground ut erntplaint and accrtf.ri.tn againd fllirillers. ar account of the nalitar y arid t..idAt f.v,c .11 (tic rosin try as it :tonally is, let riprin the el ,n7 , .fi, ti. n :!:.it tliry ton at!: f u r the d.du nof it I Ant pee to ajio!, Sit, 01.0 if (thil an account were laid ol tin table, it wand bc the hen, I will go tar rod f vroul.l 1 d ant's% cr to II IN 11l 11 , 11..Y.1.L L.- 'EMIL If y WC iiiii LIC• lIL 10ITIL mfPe of ittengttien- one smut objecting to ton gt eat an este:lnca. a t obe !althea, and fay. it v.vittl.l be a d1.1:111ye anlwer Io w ~ a ' l:.il, how negligent It's let it mg and confirming whatever is well conceived in th e p a rt a our force, another lamenting any attempt the Lit argument the Honr•orable Gentleman has 1 ,0, wr • , And i t i s n r yin the preamble of tin An indent fyliem of defence, by that which all tonfidLe at its diminutinn flume terenimending a neater 1.17 , ,:td in ityport of his nnau•n. The Holiontahle o y at e d oTc:rats th•or cpc;,cJ ti• nle• nfefltl and impnttant, thongli in different &glees. and form a letter addition to the re7,uhir army, and Geidletnan has Fora :it culdiderable le1:4111 into fi •ir the • il , 11:• if the En oral Let us there J icnfe how the prafanriy are to be cal- others,who dif f er as to that particular Ipecies of na- the confiJcration of that piinciple cipseffed in She it 11:ietire As, tun? pret• - gative whit?. is al- led mit, aimed, and arras Let us &feta', how, val force we Omni,' employ ; feme etc:ling a large Defence AP, that it is Majclty's prerogative I: ! felted to he :tau ant i n his !Staidly. It Elates that : in cafe of emergency, they are to b e eniplt.yed ; how number of (mall sedel., and I me a WWI number to call upon the fervices <f all ranks of his filbjeas ft ~, or tie appearance of th , emniy tar. it fire alms cannot be funnel, pikes may not of large a-dills ; all, all Ode, the lion. Gentleman capable of bearing arms in cafe of invafion• Silo ID 13 true . : the r atl , :t Shall be lawful fry Ma- Ivs lel adva . . , .ite he pin into their hands; and wlisiher has found mean; gratify, in their individual ca- ciiituding th a t bill, that principle was frequently p 3.11) t c •,•u t••; irs %vb..) 2re r, are 'ruler it may b•.: nerdriry tu place them tinder niaitial I prices and opinions, and to include them all within alluded to in debate, but never cppofed ; for it was If 11.- that it (hall ht or by 'shit o..cr may be r e nd ere d fubjett to the commds of this (weeping and general mutiCo. I admitted, generally admi:ted , that his Maids , t. , . :1` 6311 I v'k', !•.! • "ride are fit r i•tfts for difcudon in the come rr'.w to another part of the Hon. Gentleman's tared fuels api ciugative in cafe of invasion, and the n • l.. m Ti. : • ; t . I , indeed, can they h e Al t :lime:it, in *li.ch he has laud this he did not ot- only oiretti , ,n was, I well remember, whether he do f c ... .1.. -s .--• _ ~..• TA. lin.. 11•01,1".. 1