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After prayers were read, their Lordships proceed e d to forward have been more consistent for his Learned -Friend to material , as the attempt to ' deter persons' from the offenders would' calculate the chances , and thereby be the inns ueen the table, being mesas private. 'Cite Exchequer have selected that branch for imp rovement with which commission of crimes by severe punishments, which prevented from the commission of crimes. Bins Futidine Nil, and the Militia Officers Indemnity Bill, were he was most intimately acquainted, and establish his might be mitigated if the Judge thoitgltt proper. extremely averse to this bill, though he should not atact I bird time and passed. I A opt co givevfadon took place between the Earl' of nantrcut memorial in the department where his practical . Lord . cEogGE GR EN ILLS said, we were object to the passing of the Privately Stealing Bill . He teeintit‘i ord HOLLAND, respecting the time of making Or taking knowledge was most extensive. There was not, he accustomed to our institutions, and 'accustomed to tee should therefore oppose the second reading of the Sin. consideration the Report of the Committee appointed to in- was persuaded, an acting Magistrate in the country them softened down - in practice; but if we could - look Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY had so often troubled 'restive the circumstances attending the death of the mufurtunate who had not more practical knowledge upon this on them with the eye of other -nations, we should look - the House with a statement of his seinirne t • Debtor who died in the Marshalsea Prison , Tuesday Vas men-n g upon subject than his Learned Friend, not with respect to on their spirit with surprise arid terror. They were this subject. that he should feel bound tribe brief od • stoned as a proper day ; but as the last mentioned Peer obsPrseil, a Cora:lll4e already appointed f o r t h a t d a y was likcif to occupy' the practice of Courts, but with respect to its opera.. marked with one uniform character of blood; but this occasion. His Honourable and Learned Frietil such of their Lordships time Monday, as we understood, was don upon the mind and manners of the people. The then, their severities were dispensed with in practice-. near " him (Mr. Frankland) had represented this Bit . Axed on as the day on which that print is to be settled, and "..' ; effect of the existing laws appeared in the secur i ty Was this a p ro p er state for the laws of the country ? as the offspring of theory, and such es may be ex. for some further proceedings respecting the business.. they •itflorded to property, and the i. - they pro. The sever 4 of the law would go to increase crimes. peeled from a dilletaati lawyer. Whatever his Hon. - - - - - forfeited I P • BANBURY PEERAGE. In a Committe of Prililege', the discussions on claims of Ge neral linallys to the Earldom of Banbury were resumed. The LORD CHANCLLLOI! delivered his sentiments at some length, which appeared to be decidedly against the original mo tion of Lord EitKlN', viz. " That the Petitioner had mail& good bas claim." The farther consideration of the case was adjourned till Tuesday next. CohcitEitclAt CtEDIT Upon the motion of Earl BATHURST, this Bill was committed; and passed thrgugh the Committee without any amendment. The' Earl of LAUDERDALE rose to &too tice,, that he intended. on Monday to move illeaddi tkin of a -dense' w hi c h would prevent the Bank of -urchasi these Exchequer' He • 9 _influence , &iced on the public morals. When tfley considered what a vast amount of property there was in the Country, and how exposed that property was in its nature, being in a great degree personal, they would be surprised to see how comparatively small was the disposition to rob and pilfer. It was less, taking all circumstances into consideration, than in any other country.—But what called for the Bills of his Lear ned Friend ? `Where was the necessity that demand ed it ? and who were the Magistrates that made re ; presentations on the subject ? Such as had made I re presentations were hostile ' not favourable to the mea sure. The real cause of the introduction of the mea sure was,,because the law, as it stood, did not meet the England from pun ;ing . _se A. aer Bills, _ should at the sometime, having thf - achiantite - of addressin . g a more narucr,us attendance, take that oppattintry of stating:to the House those ,authniities whidi warranted him in asserting,Ait the Mk' hail effetted a considerable reduction of its issues in 1806, neAdy to the amount or half a million, and which When a man found his life for the most tri vial offence, could he be worse? Might he not com mit murder as a means by which he might escape conviction, though he could not aggravate the punish ment ? There was another question which should not be forgot in the great national consideration of law—the moral and religious question—the question how far we could assume a power over the life of man ? It was right to consider, whetherAhe man, un fit to live was not more unfit to die ? To thOse who dread the consequences of this repeal he would refer to the effects of the alleviation of punishment intro duced into Russia by the Empress Catherine. Those who object to the repeal seem to think that whatever the opinions of a certain set of men in the country. He begged that gentlemen would bear in their minds the great difference between passing and repealing a law, and the danger of interfering with the settled _ . seemed to he doubted by the statemint'of the Noble Earl (Ross.) The Earl of ROSS was sure the'Noble Lord had I mistaken the extent of his ol,iservations. He had said that the issue of Bank Paper in Ireland had not been j lessened, when the rate of exchange against that country had been considerably diminished. He made the observation fur the purpose of shewing that it was a mis-statement when it was alledged that the , issue of Bank Paper had caused a depreciation of it in Ireland. It had also been said that the issue of the Bank rf England had been increased in thos: • years of 1804, 5, 6 ; now there was rather a decrease. —For the issue in those years, severally, was 017,300,000,, 5 e17,‘200,000, and 817,100,000. This statement had been so made by the Bullion Commit . tee.and, without any personaldisrespect to any indivi-• dual, he thought their conduct reprehensible. This was a great and wealthy Empire, and he would not permit those false and perverted statements to go forth to the public without offering his mite to stop their baneful tendency. In. this country every - thing depended upon our credit, and that credit was founded upon the stability of our paper currency. A compa rison had also been made between the Bank Paper of this country and the Assignats of France, which•was altogether unfounded. Tht.. Earl of LAUDERDALE was sorry to have further occasion to notice, that his statement was cer.'; tainly questioned by the Noble Lord on a former night, and he Would on, Monday convince the House of the accuracy of hii staiement. He could also in form.him, that, however dissimilar in some things, *the Paper Currency of this country was to the Assig onts of France, they were the same as to the causes of their depreciation. Loth 1-19LLAND observed, this conversation was very •ular; but he could not help noticing, with maxims of the country. It was understood out of doors last year that the Bill was carried, and the ef the minds of the people is must be right, for if wrong it must have been al ready discovered; and in this manner error was con tinued from generation to genentibn. He concluded a speech of considerable detail . by Complimenting Sir _• - forward • Samuel Romilly on his exertions in bringing the Bills. Sooner or later the cause he had advoca, must triumph, because it was tha cause of good sense, humanity and justice. Mr. ABERCROMBY found fault with the extent which had been given to the question. It appeared to the opponents of the motion as if it were an at tempt to overturn the whole existing system, and ex clude capital punishment for ever ; but the true ques tion was short, distinct, and practical—it was the single question of changing the punishment in a case where it was even now seldom inflicted. By the pre sent system of severe punishments being appointed for trivial offences, Judges and Juries were made to violate their duties, prosecutors to shrink sack from theirs, and the punishment to be in some cases a mockery, and in others an oppression. He (Mr. Abercromby) held in his hand a list of committals and ptesecutions which occurred within five years, and from that list would be seen the unwillingness of. prosecutors to come forward under the present sys tem. In 1802, of 107 committed for trial, but 79 were tried ; in 1803, Itti were committed, and 109 tried ; in 1804, 135 were committed, and 59 tried ; in 180.5, 131 were committed, and 76 tried; in 1806, 128 were committed, and 56 tried. To what cause was this extraordinary disproportion to be attributed, but to the disinclination of prosecutors ? The Juries were not unfrequently led into what could scarcely be called by any other name than perjury. An instance I 'had been cited by the Learned Mover, in a fcrmer debate, of a young.woman who was fuund guilty of stealing a £lO note. There could be no doubt of the fact ; but the Jury found the value elute note to be under 40s.:—(Hear, and an observation from a Member, that perhaps the Jury were near the value.) —" No t " said Mr. A.bercromby, " whatever may lie expected on that point as to the selo note, the Jury could scarcely have satisfied themselves on the point at the time. This case was worth many others, and there need not be adduced a stronger evidence of the • fect of that opinion upon shewed itself immediately ; they began to think it was not so.criminal to rob and pilfer. His Learned Iriend had succeeded actually in altering the law, as far as it respected stealing from the person, and had congratulated the House that prosecutions were since increased : but the increase of prosecutions was in it self an evil ; for reformation, and not punishment, was the end of penal laws. Mild penal laws might suit a despotic country, but were incompatible with the liberty of a free state, Where there could be ho ti t i. little preventive law. H e referred to the History the Penal Code of China. The British laws, he con tended, were not formed upon any general principle, but grew out of necessity alone, and it might be pos sible to buy an exemption from vice and crime too dear. He quoted the opinions of the Recorder and Common Serjeant of London against the Act of last year ; and concluded gy expressing a hope that the House would attend to the practical judgments of men acquainted with the fact, before they agreed to a Bill which wou4 introduce a new system founded upon theory, not experience. Sir JOHN ANSTRUTHER• said, that if he 'thought the measure had any tendency to interfere with the fixed maxims of the country, he would be one of the first to oppose it ; but so far from tending to alter the system, it appeared to him to be calcula ted to bring back the law to the system from which it had started. No man could look much at the man ner in' which penal laws passed in this country, with ' out being aware that they met in general with little consideration, and arose in many instances from.ac cidental circumstances. If a particular crime was prevalent at any particular time, the usual course was to bring in a bill to make it a felony, so that the crib mind- code had arrived at such a degree of severity, that no man could look at it without shuddering.— remed consider from time Irreg , the small degree of knowledge he passeitedon. this su hjec t, that all the arguments which he had jest beard in favour of the paper currency•of this countrr. he beard at the time in favour of the Assignats of. France. The advocates for the latter speciespf cur-, rency at that period, equally with those of the former at .lies time, m.iintained, by the.self-same arguments, And all which he had there V4s no depreciation'; and 'heard on . this siihject, he cottld . End written in the and Learned Friend 1:7- ht think of his knowled ge en the subject, he could • ono him thatfor fifteen Tears, whilst he wont circuit, he had studied the criminal law, and when he had nothing else to do, went constantly into the criminal courts, to take notes of their pro. ceedings. His Honourable and Learned Friend's speech was so abstract as not to be intelligible, and which he could not answer because he could not fol low. His Honourable Friend had talked of his high authorities which were against this measure ; bat no man had a right to assume- that the Judges were against this measure. The learned Magistrates, the Recorder and Common Serjeant of the City of Lon don, he was aware; had given the sanction of th e i r autto t ity his But ••• high , against 1. s measures. epee what facts Because offences had &ready increased. This was a - preof that some alteration was - accessary. /I & physician found his patients - under his r titan, he would think it *Ong Pre 3 cTiPr not thorn.— If an alteration then was or town could say it ought to be to greater breaking e wheel - rack tun* *Afore t end" French botlts of 'fiat -chiy. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, such was the difference between the Assignats of France and the Bank Paper of this country, that Mt could only say, be was inclined to prefer the assignats of France to the paper currency of this country. He saw a Noble and Learned Ltird ( Redesdalelf who smiled, but he would challenge him, with the little he knew on the subject, to inform him that a depreciation might not take place by the same means in both these spe cies of currency. The over-issue in each, for want of proper restriction, would produce exactly the same consequences. L- rd REDESDALE said there was certainly a difference ; the Assignats were issued by the Govern ment for goods, and were not returnable in a certain period ; whereas Bank Paper was issued upon secu rities, for which paper, or other securities for it, was returnable in three months. The Earl of LAUDERDALE still maintained, that if the issue was heyind - the securities in either, the consequence must be a depreciation.—Adjourned. HOUSE GE COMMONS. A Person from the Treasury presented an Account of the Bank Notes in cireulatidn at various periods since the year 1715. tirtIIIGATE AIfCIIWAY BILL. iillobtition from Upper Holloway, in The only for this was to . to time the abuses that crept into it, and this was all his Learned Friend proposed. There were two things to be considered in penal legislation : first, the pu. nishment should be proportioned as nearly as possible to the offence ; and, secondly, the benefit of the pub. lk should be considered as effected by the example. With re , to the smaller class of offences, it was ..cgard t. - -- impossible to Jose sight of the case of the individual, it was just that he should be punished in proportion importance of the objects to which the Learned Mo ver had so honourably and 'perseveringly devoted himself—( Hear.) Mr. MORRIS, from all that be had seen and known on the subject, was convinced that some change in the Law of Punishment ought to be made. He would merely mention a circumstance at which he was pre. just to his offence, but in many cases there was no propor tion whatever between them. When severity was re sorted to for the purpose of example, they should be sure that the benefit of example would be the conse quence. The intention of the law was to make our , penal code and our practice the same. He disap proved of the suggestion of his Hon. Friend (Mr. I , Frankland) to leave it in the option of the prosecutor whether he would bring his action for the compound felony or not, as it would leave too much in a malig nant person's power. The Hon Baronet was of opi nion the certainty of punishment would have more effect in deterring persons from committing crimes, than the uncertainty which the present code holds out. With respect to cases of aggravation in shoplifting, he thought that the laws should 'be so clearly laid down, as that it would not be necessary for the Judges to use that discretion, which to them must be irksome, in distinguishing between grand and petty larceny. • He considered the sentence passed-upon offenders of . this description (which was that of death) wasnothing 'more than a mere legal form, because it was never carried into effect. The consequence was, that it ope. rated as a sort of mockery of justice. Thinkiirg the laws would be better executed by die bill of his Hon. Friend, he should vote for it. Mr. M't)ONALD thought; that the House should Mr. BYNO presented 1 -7 favuur of the Highgate Arclissay Bill. Ordered to lit on the Table. Mr. MELLISH presented one on the same subject from the Inkablonts of Kentish Town. Ordered to lie on the Tads. STAMFORD CANAL BILL. Afte a istagthentd *llscussion on the second reading:of the aiiiikforil COO 80, in which Mr. TIMM PSON, Mr. MADDOX, _ _ not be deterred from adopting the principles of the bill proposed, merely from its being stated that it was an innovation. Every improvement that was ever proposed, might be got rid of in the same.way by the cry of innovation. We could not suppose our code was so r Iderfully constructed, that it had the Sir IA/MBIGRAVA lA, Mr.. ELLIS-ON, IVIr.(.:ILarmAN, Mr. LA 113, Sad Mr. Arias took part, the House divided on the Ameild new, Bat it skosid tte read that day six 'months; when there Ipred—For tlie Alierreinent, .6.—Against it, 87.—Majo : gity, 59. as Message from the Lords signified their Lordships' agree ment to the indemnity Bill, the Exchequer Bills 14'ttudirsif sod several private Lill.. . . • + DWELLING-001.1ss ROBBERY 8114. SAMUELAOKILLY moved the Order of - . - - e Bill wonL preternatural merit of never requiring to be revised. As our wealth and luxury had increased, so had our penal code ; and it was necessary from time to time to revise it, and see, whether some punishments were not altogether disproportioned to the crimes. Tbg severity of our code produced in the injured parties a. reluctance to proFecute ; in the Juries it often produ ced perjury, and in the Judges connivance at it. The -:Ps thr' sent. On the home Circuit a young woman was tali* for -to the value of five shilling'. It was eiri. .‘ stealing dently her first offence, and the witnesses and the Jury evidently tried to evade the conviction • but Lord Kenyon told the Jury, that they had nothing to do, but with the question of guilty or not guilty. They found her guilty, and the Judge pronounced sentence of death upon her. The woman had observed the in• terest which her situation had excited in the Court, and when she heard the sentence suddenly pronounced upon her, she tell back at the instant, and dropped upon the ground as if she was dead. Lord Kenyon, whose sensibility was not worn out by his office, cried out from the Bench, in terror, Woman, I don't mean to hang you I Will nobody tell her, I don't mean to hang her !"—(litar, hear.) Yes, at that moment, the feelings of the Judge and the Jury were against the law, and no man could have stood in that Court without a feeling like their's, that the law was unjustifiably severe, and ought to be amended. h•• The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER laid, he could - not give a 'silent vote on this occasion. The most effectual system to prevexctscrivne was the most _mild in fact, though it might appear in terms the most severe. Nothing had been said to prom that discretionary punishment was not useful to check the greater offenders. Nothing had been said to prove, oven the policy of leaving it to individuals to choose whether the indictments- should be laid tally or tot ? If the choice were left to . the regard for character alone woad put a total end to capital prosecution, add this great arm of the law be cut off. The Bills proposed to make punishment ' more certain : this must be, either by making the , punishment ieu discretignari, or by increasing the &it the -‘ in appetite prosecutions. - punishments the Bills were, from transportation for fourteen years down to the smallest punishments, at the discretion of the Judge. The Bills took away but a very few of the impedimenta to prosecutiOns ; but the practical Janus would any, that the in4ediments at present ex.l ittirthrew any inconvenience, any of that which' influence on a large scale in the way of prose. - unwilling ) S:r T -7 ' -- the Dayibr the',seeord.readillgof.the.p..- to prevent Robbery' in llwelling-houses. • Mr. FRANICLAND said, there were no less than five Bills brought forward by. his Hon. and Learned Friend, to alter the law as it now stood ; three bad been proposed last year, two of which were re jected in that llotise,,ind one in another piaci ; but in addition to diose, two more were to be attempted • Juries through natural feelings of humanity and cc, passion usurped a power wlueh the law did not give them, and Judges seemed very well contented dist the discretion should be shifted from themsalVes to somebody eke. As to the sentences of death, were so often pronounced, and so seldom executed, they now appeared to the prisoners, as well as to eviry person in the Court, as mere senseless words, niutter-, cuuon. Prosecntion mint be an . thing after the first bent of anger against the efftli der ; and it was *only' ebb being bound over by the blagrirete tit &burnt*, at die moment of inziety and irrication, ‘. that,coultil have egbitmed the great - into. , city of prosecatiOos,'lnich;al they it conduce to the public, advantage. -If even beg sere disposed to 11 Prokt ell. that other biU s of his ' Mmurahle and _ . arm, the . ..-et or on the . : it -be to - _ greater lenience. The Hon .. Lew* Member then proceeded toenumerate the ' that had taken place in the number of cm. If the prosecutions increased under the operation of his bills, it would be a proof of their efficacy. But his Right Honourable Friend had stated that the law Was not executed. That however was not the case : ifie law was executed until latterly. It was only in doe course of the present reign that his Majesty in Council in London and Westminster, and the Judges oft circuit, mitigated the sel+erity of the law, and very properly. It 'was they, then, who made the innova 'n. All he wa n ted, was to render the law the same theory as in practice. To hear Gentlemen talk of s law, one would suppose that it had been the pro- I r duction of the wisdom of the greatest lawyers and statesmen k whereas most of the laws in our criminal code were passed without notice, and it was not until the present reign, with two exceptions, that any dis. .ettsaion took place in Parliament upon the criminal law. As a proof of the awkward situation in which 'Juries were placed under the present State of the law, be mentioned the case of the apprentice of a lapidary in St. Giles's, who was some time since trial for steal ing his master's pocket-book,containing six £lO notes. The case was clearly proved, but it appeared that the boy had ever before that act been faithful to his mas ter, and other favourable circumstances came out upon the trial. The consequence was, that the Jury round a verdict for the stealing six seloaotes, stealing to the amount of 595. It had been urged against ithn, that he had brought forward these Bills on hit own opinion. Certainly he had, but he was supported by the authority of Blackstone, of Bacon, and Coke, in support of an amelioration of the criminal law, and he was not afraid to set the weight of these great names against e 'en the high authority of the Corn - London. mon Serjeant and Recorder of _ A division then took place— For the 2d reading 79—Against it sS—Majority 26. The Bill was then read a second time. • SNGLISH MATCHING GROUNDS ROURRY BILL. On the question for the second reading of this Bill, • Mr. DAVIES GIDDY 'Said, that although this Bill was alledged to be founded on the same princi ples - those of which the second reading bad been as carried, yet he thought there was a distinction in the circumstances to which the enactments applied that would make this inexpedient. The goods in a bleach ing-ground were spread over a very large space, which it were difficult securely to fence, the articles were ; v aluable, and the temptation to steal them strung ; and it was necessary to guard rhefis by the severity of the law. Sir S. ROMILLY stated, in reply, that he had 'brought in the Irish. Bleaching Biil, which must lot low the fortuneof this, at the requisition of the linen- IsnantiNctuters in Ireland. The Chancellor of the Irish iExchthiuer had also informed him, that there was no disposition to oppose k. As to the English Bill, the calico'printers in Lancashire had signified, by one lof the County Members, that they had no objection to it.— . -The English and Irish Bleaching-grounds Bills were then respectively read a second time, and com mitted. -:., , strEPENEtow OF TUE IeXECUTIVE POWER. . • Ikti„,.Ii4,HItBREAD rose, to speak outheiobjeCi of the notice he' had given respecting a provision in case of a future suspension of the Executive Power. A variety of circumstances having driven off that notice so that it could not be acted upon till next week, and as it was understood that a declaration was then to be made of the state of His Majesty's health, he certainly should not bring it forward then. . ,_ . It was, however, his intention to submit a peopositioa to the House shortly after the recess. He could not name the day at present, as he should be under the necessity of being away for some time, but he par. posed to bring it forward as early as possible on hit return. • YORIAGY MINISTERS' SALARY, .i• On the question that the adjourned debate on the Foreign Ministers' Salaries' Bill be resumed, Mr. BANKES observed, that this was a measure to repeal a considerable part of an Act passed last Session:. Before that Act, the principle of the excep tion in Mr. Burke's Bill had been abused, and persons who had not been employed in missions of import• crossed the sea, and been ab. 4 ance, but had merely c.. sent three pa for years, clAimed pensions, and became permanent burtheus to the country. To Ministers themselves it must be convenient to baarmed, by the I.egulature, against the mistaken expectations and improper &v ands of their own dependants, for short, and comparatively unimportant, services abroad. He mut thefifore, oppose the second reading of the 18111. • . . .c - - Thetetainin g of the deter crimes fro m Where there was a falling upon th em , ttces, and thereby be of crimes. He was ugh he should not ely Stealing Bill. lie d reading of the Bill. ad so often troubled his sentiments upon • sound bei be brief od and Learned Frielil represented this Bit such as may be ex. Whatever his Hon. : of his knowledge en chalet fifteen years, died the criminal law, z dos went constantly t. notes of their pro. Id Learned Friend's be intelligible, and Luse he could not fol. ad talked of his high this measure ; but no sat the Judges were rrsed Magistrates, the t of the City of ' Len- the sanction of their _ • ures. But epon what ratty increased. This a was necessary. If a ng under his pe p. Inteetiikti taidese h ;_l ahltilimion king could king on tor mit be to and•Aseniiied Member he that of ces. If th e the operation of his reir efficacy. But his stated that the law !ver was not the case .erly. It was only in that his Majesty in singer, and the Judges ty of the law, and very who made the innova- ender the law the same leas Gentlemen talk of at it had been the pro- . greatest lawyers and he laws in our criminal ce, and it was not until rcePtiones that any dig. Lent upon the criminal yard situation in which present State of the law, ipprentice of a lapidary me since tried for steal- onta ining six /el 0 notes. but it appeared that the been faithful to his znas- ircumstances came out Levee was, that the Jury g six seln notes, stealing id been urged against ward these Bills on hie d, but he was supported se, of Bacon, and Coke, a of the criminal law, the weight of these great authority of the Com- of London. tinst it sS—Majority 26. second time. LINDS ROURRY BILL. cond reading of this Bill, ;aid, that although this nded on the same princi- ccond reading had been was a distinction in the enactments applied that The goods in a bleach- * very large space, which fence, the articles were °steal them strong ; and it by the severity of the law. in reply, that he had ng Bill, which must fol- ic requisition of the linen- 'he Chancellor of the Irish .4 him, .that there was no .S to the English Bill, the ire had signified, by one at they had no objection h Bleaching-grounds Bills a second time, and corn- LteCtITIVE POWER. se, to speak on the.subiece n respecting a provisioa ension of the Executive urastances having driven ski not be acted upon till lerstood that a declaration Le state of His Majesty's not bring it forward then. on to submit a proposition the recess. He could not ; he should be under the some time, but he pop. a early as possible on hit TER? SALARY. adjourned debate on the P Bill be resumed, I, that this was a measure trt of an Act passed last the principle of the creep- id been abused, and persons ed, in missions of import• issed the sea, and been ab- Limed pensions, and became le country. To Ministers