Star. — London, England, 1816-02-13 00:00:00

I - , *red to the fanner by the ot emu., -- marked that there was no place for it to go. , Wean& melees imported from Germany and Spain, and Fames eras is a Ravishing condition. with regard to this ar ticle. As to,the expenditure *rising from keeping garrisons in the West India Islands, the necessity was proved by the circumstance of Dominique being formerly taken by the French, in consequence ref its not being provided with a sufficient garbing. — These Islands further merited attention memployin • the one.fourth of our navigation, and as yearly eon. , sorbing five milieus of our manufactures. The In. ct:me Tax, he observed, should be continued as the hest, means of meeting our exigencies. He doubted that there would be many Petitions against it, as those which were sent last year went op the supposi tion that no others would be Substituted In its'place. Tbe Honorable Gentleman • proceeded to obeyer., that individuals had profitel by it—(e instance, Stockholders, the 9, per Cents. were at 47 when it walk first proposed, they were now at 60. On the Whole, no better tax could be substituted, and although many hid suffered- by it, yet that MOTE would have suffered without it. • Mr. PRESTON denied ,the truth of what was stated- by Mr. Rose, as to the advantages arising from the Income Tax, for if all the money ,sited by that tax bed been raised by funding, the agnculterel iuteresserkthe country would now be in a psych bet. ter *matins than it was in at present. Stich Was the depression of thelended interest. that sell thelinds in the country *ere dipiiiciated 50 per cent. lower than . they were two years ago; and if the Broperty Tax ware now to tette place, there were whole dhts*is ht kingdom Which would he wholly unable us pay it. WESTERN' declared it as his opinion, that . relief offered by the Chancellor of the tenulditeiabolly inadequate i the taking a few horses toss* afford yam. An this moment be made lift tip the interest from the divested state it was not wish to draw a desponding pie. ; ary; but he contended, that the lands produced no revenue new—after r expenses of cultivation, nothiag re. and it was in vain to expect that could be derived from'itt, which the GelltleMiM seemed to anticipate. He some rents had been paid; but they derived front the profits of the farMers, ;h landlords took from the capitals. of Therefore, be ccmceived it the duty of and of that House to devote their the consideration of the state of the ) devise a mode for completely relies?. interests. 'ln order to raise a revenue Tax, there must be a revenue out of come; and if no revenue arose from could land be made to pay a Property nth and honoui of that HOMO was every Minister pledged himself, that at • of the war, that odious and oppressive put an end to. 4.T• HERON said; when the people acquainted with the proceedings of this respire the gift of prophecy to fore .ould be sunk in enigma gloom and 't was impossible t ut that they must hscontenc and indignation, when they mockery which had been practised by linisters, in putting the word economy of the Prince Regent, when it was , y would never see it any where else. pected ec3nomy— and he hoped they their determination to have it, in that ' yet constitutional language, which sold dare to withstand, ( Bear, hear.) denied that the dtstress of the coon. rester than it ever was before. There :tnedy for that distress, a reduction of )at could only be effected by retrench branch of the public expenditure.— the people look for the example of eco me establishment of the Prince. Regent L ' father of his 'people. There the . be found; and it should be followed ;merit of the State. When they had 'only on former occasions, they had been inspNing situation" in winch the coup. 'cold to Goo they could do away with situation, if it were to be supported by takation ! Would to GOD they had totes of that which Puovinatiox rye ilarsituation, to keep oat of Contmen. (Mar, hear.) Wheolabourers were —When small shop keepers wore without, whets tailors, shoemakers, and other Iftimien, were without business—it could 'but little satisfaction to be told by dig _ wham they applied for a seamy sub. your distresses are very sevne,and there amendment-4m there is this conso. ?mese esexered with &pry 1.(4 assumed a most imposing situation—( at: • artuies have expelled see despot and set .you have a Prince who has su much dig. expends as great a sum on a thatchesil another Monarch would on a palace ; so that he cannot bear to see the same house for two successive years—he is to trade, that be C4lllOl gICO less than clock.—and such a protector of art. that 46000 for a do‘en of cabinets. (Learitar.) • are more Lords of the Bed-chamber at, At any former period of English history.. sitar.) tsad, perhaps, in a few weeks, the delight of contemplating, a corps Lancers I" (Lawghter.) When Gentlem e n 7al tommary, or rather txtravarmer, they been told that there xis a plot to lower Character. If such a pletexisted, it was those who encouraged a system of extrava.- - dignity of the Prince would be better expenditure were. diminished ; and he of his advisers would state to him the tines of the French Revolution, amongst be found Royal extravagancies. GRENFELL called the attention of.t ;ast balances, (amounting to about which the . Bank now nad in their pose Ins socickary to-say.that it Quid ,; .. . • . • • .. 1 • • ►__.... measemiutinleo le tb* t toi the ank a has of foot antes at follt per Mt. intr , k wee bused that die mOneY leer the property of the pub*. J. 7.l4Witetrengly tondinblied tfie pros, poem ester meet, as an enormous . expeniiitt. wholly unnecelsary. • We had destroyed the armies of Pante; the nations on the Continent had no lib.' Vies; . 4ye were then In a state of complete securitrt: and what oteasien was there for a large and expeo.' sive establishment when we had nothing to fear•• when in our distant possessions there could be raised • is sufficient for their defence. We were in a more perfect state of security than at the end of the American war; and at that time init. peace estableshmint was only two Millions. Above all things, the agricultnrnl interests had. a direct claim `for relief, which ought to be retrospective as well as prospective, otherwise the farmers would never be able to go on with their business. The original source of the present depression of agriculture certainly was the temptation which high prices held out to increased cultivatiod ; but the principal cause was iheswithdraw ing of eoortnous sums from the circulation of the country —sums amounting altogether to twenty-five millions. Every one knew this diminution-of - Capital must have produced a corresponding diminution in the prices of all commodities. It was necessary then that webhould look's() some reliet from the effectsoot these suddpn fluctuations. His chief object in rising was-to say, that whatever relief was afforded to the farmers, in point of the Property Tax, ought to be retrospective. . Mr. BAKING differed entirely from the Chan cellor of the Excfiequir as tolhe effect of his Corn Bill of last year. It not cm - ly'did no good, but it did a great injury to the agricultural interest; because while it was in agitation. it caused great numbers of people to spegulate in importing great quantities of corn. He eensiilered the two paltry baits of a re. darted Tenatitry Tax and the exemption from the Hon. Tait', as nothing more than a fallacy held out to combity Ger.tlemen, to get their consent to the matinees establishment that was now about to be kept up. Had the itight• Honourable Gentleman Yost the great battle lately fooght, and had to straggle through another year of war, we might be induced to agree to his present projects; but last year there were sums voted. sufficient to defray all the expenses of that.war ; and what occasion was there for such an expenditure as was now proposed, when we were in a state of peace and security, and when France' was in a state sn powerless that she never was so be fore at any period of lier history ? And yet with all this security around us, the country was called on for a peate establishment seven times greater than' ever she had before. It such an establishment as they heard proposed that night took place, there would be a general spirit of discontent throughout the whole country. Mr. BRAND said. that with respect to the Pro- perty Tax, he considered Parliament stood pledged to its abolition. The weight with which it pressed on the agricultural, and indeed on, every other class of the community, was too severe to be borne, and ' therefore the House and the country were bound to oppose it. Mr. C. P. YORKE argued in favour of the Re- I solutions. ---•-- Inge tow Co tale the Od om *hie Mt. WESTEII the proposed reh Exchequer Arab off the tax frcim a , effort mast at chi agricultural ;nit* now in : be did n cure of the count, of the kingdom defraying all the ,mined for rent ; • the revenue coal Right Hon. Geni admitted, that s were rents eat del but -that which 1 the farmers. Tl 3 the Government whole time to t 1 country, and to c ing the landed in by a Property 'fa which it should c, land, how could • Tax ? The faid pledged, and eve the termination o Tax would be pu Sir ROBERT were Made acqu night, It did wit s see, that they woi despondence. It feel the utmost di considered the mi his Majesty's Mit into the mouth evident that they The people cape • wuutd declare th firm, and no Minister woo' It could not be try was now fire was but one tea taxation, and tin spent, in every Where should tl nomy but in the in the heart of tl example should • in every departt talked of cconor told cf the “ in • try stood. Wo that imposing si such a load of t availed thetnier than, their insol la I quarrels ! w - ithoptivork—+ custothers—.wh h;uidieraftsmini, afford them 'buy 1 • Magistrate, to sistence—" yntl is hole hopeot yetsi you have assua laugl)—your ar up another`—you pity, that he e -cottage, as ano dignified is lie, furniture in his 1 suet a friend to sfBoo fora doe be pays 46000 besides, there a present, than at . (flew, hear, visa you may have . of Royal Lance talked of Royal bad generally the Royal Char formed by thou fiance. The di kept up, if his wished some • .priticipal causes • ,which would 1 (Haw, hew.) Mr. P. GRE Souse to the to millions). said teas; trod is lei it Si atm, aid no remedy ' . ' He was the:, a fore of opinion that it Was 1146 s to stir that 4144 Lion. With respect to any ancoaragetneat Wipe 111. ' t sived to the fanner by the exportation of wool, he te.. Kr, Lord NUGENT objected to the proposed prase establishment. Mr. JONES observed, that in the present state of the agriculture of the country, he hoped the Chancel lor of the Exchequer sv , iuld consider seriously of the measure proposed (the Property Tax) before he sub mitted it to the House. The tanners had been greatly distressed ; and in the province of Wales to such d pitch, had this distress arisen, that those farmers who were once considered independent were now :educed to the state in which the Irish peasantry had been de. scribed, of soiling laboriously on their own farms, and still scarcely ab.e to :mike up half their rents. ' Mr. Alderman ATKINS hoped that the stare of the country would be duly considered before 'ltch an enormous addition to their burdens as the Property Tax were voted ; but if that measure were found in , dispensably necessary, it ought to be introduced with such modifications as would render it as little oppres sive as possible. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the Gentle men on the other side had taken a very erroncous, and he would add, a very fallacious view of the subject before the House. The establishment which had been proposed could not be considered as a revace estab lishment; but as the winding up efa very heavy war expenditure. It Gentlemen would look at the sub ject with en official eye they would see it in that light. All the items of the expenditure were not solely fon the service of the present year, for it was to be con sidered that a great part of our army was not yet brought over to this country—.and so Many circum stances had concurred to retard this measure, that the final redaction of the militia could not yet be car ried into execution and their services dispensed with. When the official returns were made, the House would find, that the great expenditure in the Army Estimates, to which an objection had been made, should not be considered in many items so .mothisrus, pectively as those of a peace establishment, but retros pectively as the necessary attendants on the late war.— The miscellaneous estimates had also been complained of, but they would not be considered too much wheal all the items can* before the House. At another time be would go more at length into these estimates, and he trusted he should be able to thew the House, that they were not greater. than bad been called for by all the circumstances. He would ask, was it not wecessary that England should take precautionary measures, when every other Power in Europe had. dens the same This precaution on the part el Eng land could not be objected to, after the experienceut recent events. Mr. Pitt, in 1792, had let down the peace establishment, and be had occasion to' regret it very soon after. Many struggles had been made, and 'many difficakies had hear snratounted, in order to procure snch-am army as we now had: would it then l be politic, under present cirtometances, to disband that army, and expose the country to similar di& cultic:, if their aid was again necessary ?--(llmr.) The Noble:Lord then contended, that alter Ma pesie of Amieni,- a. much larger establishment hid been proposed than bt present, Twenty-thee thousarid men were 'voted for Ireland, 47,000 for England ; and that with regard to England the establishment was much less than in 1802. In Irked disestablish. p•saturiatar, .hat that vta waktfPr t r , C• U- • . • _`~:. ifefi. he;winsld not ssy pOlideaVdistorbilleC was 1 also to be recollected, that - at the prank isiowent them was Moe More ottasion,for an increase of our 'establish'ment than in 1802. our extended 4 0 40 3 dice then reqUiring a much grater force. Bventhe economy of ihls kingdotn. required nlarger 'force for its protection than It did In 1902. The pro tection oldie JEevenue Department alone required a very large force..—(Thar, hear, fres; 0/1/sasidva.) .l— these diffeteat depirdtients he would more fully go into at another time; and the House would then find that not one it was overcharged. It was the' ' interest of Ministeri to praOttse economy, for the very existence of their places, and it might be supposed ihAt they would wish not to lose them—(a laugh)-- required it.. He could not conclude his observations, on the question befall the Nouse, without deprecat ing the conduct which bad been adopted on the other side, of sending abroad into the country the report that, immediately at the conclusion of a war, there should be a total reduction of all the war tales—that is, that there should be • a reduction of 2 4 millions allogether.-(liase, heir. hear.) Mr. Baoixinass and Mi. Posisointv etplained. The - Itesautions were then • severally put and ' agreed to, and the Report ordered to be received . . to-morrow. After a short conversation between SIC G. WAR- Rll3llDilt, Mr. Pontoon'', arid some other Members, the Navy Estimates were . put off to another day. Somb motions for the production of financial papers were then *stied to, and the Rouse adjourned. • THE EVENING STAR. LONDON. :TUNE OUINEAS, TWO OF so,ouo POUNDS * STEK , LINO, IN THIS N. NOT TWO BLANKS TO A PRIZE. TUESDAY, F RUARY 13; 1816. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT "I WEI.VI3 O'CLOCK Reduced GI }—Co $. rao. 41f —for sec. Ili fe 4 per Cent. 76i-5 per Cent. 8m —Bands Ss. 11. pr. 0mu.1461 pr.—Exch. BUM par, 3s. pr. REMEMBER TO-MORROW, VALEN NE's DAY, YOUR FOR — MAY BE MADE. TWO PRIZES OF 85.000 f 0 PRIZES - LOTTER' The debate of last night in the House of Com mons will be read with pouch concern. We are now happily in a state of peace. but the most obnoxious of all the war taxes—that on Income, is still to be continued, to the extent, f Five per Cent. In other words, tax-gatherers, under the .name of Commis sioners, are to esiercise an inquisitorial power over every man in the kingdom, to pry into all the private concerns of his family : to learn how he lives, what profits he makes by his labour, or by his professional pursuits; how many relatives live upon his industry how much aid be himself-receives from his Mends,, the amount of his debtors and creditors l Whatever should be kept most secret must be resealed. Need we remind the Country, that un every oeca. sion when this abominable inquisitorial tax has come under discussion in Parliament, its character was ad• mittei by Minis'ers as well as by its oppunents--il was not attempted so be disguised, u.* 11111 it at tempted to be be justified but on the plea of necessit, arising out of the state of war in which the country was placed. On every occasion the prospect of peace, to be conquered by means of this temporary sacrifices was held out as id inducement for submitting to this vexatious, unjust, and oppressive tax. Govern. ment stood pledged to its repeal; and the Country had a right to expect that it would keep faith with the publi This confidence was increased by what followed tl peace of Amiens. On the very day on which the news of peace arrived, Lord SIDUOUTU, then Chan. ceUor of the Exchequer, came dowd to the House, and thus expressed himself:—" It is mrintention 66 propose a repeal of the tax cm income. lam do sirous that the sentiments I-entertain respecting 66 that measure should be perfectly understood. A 66 a war tax, I am persuaded it was a legitimate iource of revenue; BUT I HAVE EVER CONSIDERED gg IT IN NO OTHER LIGHT THAN AS A WAR TAX, SNAP. •' PLACABLE TO A TIAIE OF PEACE."—March 29, 1802. By what magical art has the power of Me /arid a= been made to change- its character ! to-become applicaWe to a time of Peace ? ' The Country is not so blind (however lethargic it may be for a time) as some men mayattempt to persuade themselves. The tax is abominable—as unconstitutional as ever it was ; but one part of the community is. to be played off against 'heather. l'he Landholders are to be' re. lieved 1 We have no . objection that they should : we only contend that the relief should not be paniet Let others also enjoy the blessings of Peace ! Pallia.. tives of this kind are woke than tudtu—it must ever be hatzernt to attempt to allure one class to assist in wringing witnei from; another: But we owe arreais, ate. What ! after a war of has months, fur which twelve months supply was voted last Session. But there are arrears, it seems. Lei it be so, and we Shall still contend, with Lord SID. mount, that they should be met by other means than a tax " inapplicable to it 40sie of peace." Let it once be car ried that it is applicable to other times and circum stances, and it will*become rips-ways, Ileac, tee. Let it once be carried, and you must for ever continue to expose your most private concerns w the impudent .prying eyes of Stmeincittisitors.—lf so, Britain may bid, we shall not say an eternal, but a long farewell to her boasted privilege; and liberties. No, not an eter nal farewell—for, some how or other, she will recover her liberties. Biit isow ?—lf this measure be per sisted in, we tremble ai the prospect. . . . . , - Tux Futter. .!—in consequence ef the financial pro ceedings last *gig, in , Parliament, a great agitati on prevailed this.mOgning in the Stock Exchange : the price, at the opening of the market, for Consols for money was 61b and '62, for the account; but in *a short tins they fell to 6li for. money, and 61i, for account. • Otunium coinmenced at 17, but ' speedily fell to 16i, 1 / 4 * - A. great. ippiatliy of Stock was sold out at ihe.first of the market. ind.a further depression is czelfted to take place s ' as to-morrow is the settling day for °august, . • . , . \' __l L.ii:~ and were deposited • at Wcue's Lottery Cornhill, which gave rise to 4 report thar was to be drawn there—the fact is, they sisal Minh, used in Drawing the first Irirkkak ter', which have been, for some time past, is WI Office, on Ludgate-hill. and are now removed b ether Office, No. 9, Cornhill, for the inspection curious. Various opinions appear to , the most propitious Season for Fortune in her Lottery Wheel ever, seems to be given to the ing, and. not without reason, more Capitals have been sold any other ; even in the last I, of e 550,00% No: 18,646, was Of RIC.HARDSoN. GooDLUcK, prior to that on which it was L TO-ITlOrrow the Grand State ing. Tickets and Shares are lot Swirr and Co.'s fortunate 12, Charing Cross ; and 81, As none of the Prizes are Grand Capitals may be drawn Tuesday se'nnight a trial der's Court, Dublin, between- . .men tailors of that City. The were entitled to have their wail CORI** thought otherwise, wages were pronounced to be sufficiently high. SPORTlNG.—Statement 'of the aids on *Di and Oaks Stakes, 1816.—Feb. 12. DERBY. to 1 apt e. by Walton, out of Penny IMO T 0111110,40 to J apt John of Paris(late Dick Goodow} 11 to 1 apt Orontes, brother to Zebra. 15 to 1 ngst Firemaster, brother to Squib. Tnben-20 to 1 apt c. by Walton, oat of !Thule &Veg* Tin-20 to 1 apt gr. c. by Gobanna, out of Grey Sio OAKS. Takee•-.5* to 1 apt Sister to Crispin. S to 1 agst Sister to Raphael. ▪ to '1 apt filly by Seim, dam by MATCIII.-6 to 4 offered on Sir Joshua 4st. Facia PO • • OATLAND STARES, FIRST CLASS. • 7to 2 apt Wanderer, p. • --al LONDON: Printed by Levet. /WIT, Pitted SW published there, and at the Stu Office s pis . • 11 - LE ARA rr . esterby the Britannia trates ar t i, reir , Rate from Ostend, with 190 m endtof tit UT, of the 78th Regiment, Which have be e : A , — "+... • ,ed quartered in the town for the ple.„,"it• Yesterday morning einharked, cs b lA' transport at gate, fuur lunidred Regiment, for Ireland. The transports having on board ment, and the late 3J Battalion t he 41 R • " &fib k ailed from Lover yesterday niers: wind for Ireland. wilt Monday se'nnight, the depots of the Glasgow, and of the 91st from Stir'.n )..11. into Edinburgh, and have since eat I ked w to join their Regiments abro a d. e t NAVAL L N ) • • PORTSMOUTH, FtBR VARY it Arrived his Majesty s slags Seatair, bet mouth, and Lamm, frond a crnize ; Rattle Irons Ostend. Sailed the Eagle , S • Linea, frog IS Xnaperor Alexander, from Bat • art... 4 • HARWICH, FEBRUARY it • 1 • Arrived the 'Castlereagh packet, wi t h from Helvoetsluyl—landed a Mail at Active packet, with a Mail and par. -n,s(sss it ienburg. No sailings.—Wind N. DEAL, FEBRUARY • Cense down from the River the Fort William, it : duds; Regent, Rimer, for ditto; A1biu4,11, 14, , 'd e g B e ng a l, t h e l atte r h as ru l ed, the two fauer raZ 1 iw their passengers and provision s on beard. 444 :- Porstawass, fur Jamaica; Leader, LACIr, f or be fie, thus, for Deraerary ; Naptilm, SELLER, fur t 2,47; • Joey's ship, Cr los, for India; and several more ' • partieuhrs unknewo.—Wind N. ) Advices have reached Town from Ne w t e the 10th ult. They communicate distreuist of the embarrassments of the country ; e n d cerement of the United States appears to many difficulties to struggle with, respects endeavours to uphold the Merchant and Treda the British Government experience in the:r to support the Agricultural interests of this —The warehouses of New York, Baltimore,* w trading towns, are quite.glutted with mach . is every description, for which no market canto e except at considerable loss ; meanwhile the payment come round for the goods, and ns ' r hand to meet them, s - It will not fail to afford some cratiFcatices er countrymen to learn, that if any good has bee to ted in the'mind of the Spanish Sovereign is at of freedom, the change has be e n p ro d uced Liberty of the Press in Great B r i ta i n; as al from the best informed persrns at Madrid . !; that on the arrival of the English P.pers is • t; pital, ibout the 23d ult. they were foetid b. es various and severe strictures on the !granny over the people of Spain by their Goverment; to manifest a general wish for the successful a- the country against such oppression. M. Cu tie and his colleagues, who were far from being ac d. of tyranny, deemed the present a pr o p er op , _i t to endeavour to work a favourable change s mind of his Majesty, and accordingly Lal the lists Papers before him. with suitable mot s . occasion ; they ventured to advise tf'.af . ry calculated to conciliate t h e reople, Lotlg.'t tote' • a diately resorted to. His Muj:sty's anger it ry ted to have been unbounded ; and a short tim was suffered to elapse before their dismista n g sent to them, and their sityations fijed up by m- Whilst they were preparing, however, Or tern ad they were directed to wait the further pleaset ti c . Majesty, the result of which was their restrnt the favcur, - and the order for sendi ng t i, e !W a d s , ordinary tribunals for trial, immediately fol • the return to power of the Ministers. an- About ten o'clock, this inteming, the State • ise, were removed from Somerset House, e'en( to a party of the Horse Guild% and 44 de- Cooper's Hall, preparatory to the Dtatritte Lottery, which begins tomorrow ; and thottit i n g wards another Set cf Wheels were seen As through the City, escorted by a party of P ate and were deposited at Weun's Lottery 0 LED Cornhill, which gave rise to 4 rep or t t h at t h e • was to be drawn there—the fact is, they were ) prevail with or courting the feel ; a preference, le Day before the as it is well knon d on that Day iv . .ottery ;he grand t purchased at de , and Co. the owl Dra sea. ate Lcttery begin e selling b great !Offices, Nos. 1, • Aid ate High fixed, the Whale mc the first day. took place in the t the master and' 'he latter concetoi rages raised, but de and ,the wages o 1