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The t %T...f LA tin SuRVEY:NG, in Theory sod Prac tireilluftrtucd with copper p!att and coloured, with tables, ;I : , llyi Abrat..ro Crosier, Latd Surrvvor, of Frame, Erice 7*• • t PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEnuGs. HOiNF. OF LORDS, MONDAY. MARCH 2. reard Camal in the cafe of TUNVACKWELL V JEFFERICS. Lord& GRANTHAM. I OvGVILLE, SCARS.I.2, and Rlaßta- DALe, took the oath and thrir (eats the !rich Auelion Duty Bill was read ■ third time, and paced. . _ . The G-rinan Yarn Bill . .Zventthrough a Committee The Thames P.-dice trifh Sugar Drawp - ick and Wareiouf ing Bill, and SOUtit 'ca NTVi4AtiOll BA were received from the Commons, and read a Bra. time. TREATY WITH PRUSSIA. LordG REM' IL LE then prefented a Meffage from his Majelty, to the following tenor and effeet " GEORGE REX. " His Majefty thinks proper to acquaint the Houfe of Lords, that a Treaty of Peace has been lately concluded between his Ma jefty and t h e Ki.ig of Pruffi3 ; a copy of which, as foon as the Rat ficatb , ns arc exchanged, (ball be communicated to the Houfe. And his Mak fly thinks it proper further to apprife this Houfe, that his Majcfty'e Minifter who figned that treaty, has, in pur fuance of an authority granted to him by his Majefty for that par pofe, aad in confequenee of the great urgency of the ftate of affairs r in thole ccuntrim, which are now the feat of war, taken upon him fell to make an advance of money to the Pruffian Government, to the amount of about Sopeol, fterling, which advance his Majefty has been 0. afed to approve, and he mils that this Houfe wel en ! able him to mak- good the fame." After the Melfige had been read in the ufual form, Lord GRENVILLE moved, that his Maidty's moR gracious Meirage be taken into confideration to mlrrow, end that the Lords be fummoned thereon ; which, on the quefLun being put, were ordered ac cordingly. SOUTH SEA NAVIGATION BILL. Lord REDESDAI.E prefented a Petition from the South Sea Company, praying for leave to be heard by Conde' againft the South Sea Navigation Bill. Lord AUCKLAND faid, that the prefent Bill was merely de alaratory of what malt have been underltood to have been a re ferved right in the Crown, at the time of palling the South Sea Adt. By that Act, a Company was erected for the purpofe of trading with the American dominions of the King of Spain; but it could not be fuppofed that it precluded his Majcfty from placing the trade on a new footing, with regard to fuck part of tbofe domi nions as fhould at any time be conquered by the Britifh arms. Betides. the South Sea Company had for many years entirely dif continued their commerce to that quarter of the world. They would, therefore, fu(tain no injury by the prefect Bill; while it became abfolutely necerary, in order to protect againft the inter pretation which they put on their rights, thole who Lad embarked about a million and a half of property for the South American market. Under thefe circuinflances, he could not affent to the hcaring of Counfd, but fhould move for the (acorn' reading of the Bill to-morrow Lord REDESDALE would not now enter into any difcuffion on the meaning of the South Sea Adt; but fubmitted, that in a cafe where Petitioners conceived their rights to he alfeded, a refufal to hear Ciami:el would be a departure from the ufual pradlice. The Petition was ordered to lie on the Table. Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER read a letter from Sir John Stuart, elm-ening his acknowledgments for the honour done hint by the Vote of Thanks of the Houle for his condudt at the battle of Alaida.—Or dered to be entered on the Journals. _ _ _ Sever,:) Members obtained leave of abfence. ELECTION PETITIONS. Colonel STANLEY reported from the Malmfbury Committee, that Robert Ladbrooke and N. W. R. CeLlorne. Efqrs. were duly eleeted, and that the petition againtt them was not frivolous or vexatious. Mr. BLACKBURNE reported from the Rochelle'. Committee, that J. Barnet, Erg. was duly ele.fted, and that the petition agait.it him was not frivolous or vexatious. An account of the tApence of Cloatbitig the Royal Veteran Bat. talions was prefented'a, the bar, purfuant to order. Oil the motion of M:. FULLER, Walter Jewry, who had been committed to Netvgate, for prevarication before the Maidftone Committee, was brought to the Bar, and, after receiving a very revere reprimand and admonition from the Chair, was ordered to be difcbarbcd. MEgSAGE FROM HIS MAJESTY. Lord HOWICK prefented at the bar a Meffage frcm his Majefty, the fame, in tubftance, as that pre iented to the Lords. The I\lefrage, on the motion of Lor4 HOWICK, was ordeted to be referred to the Committee of Supply. A new writ was ordered for Harwich, in the room of Mr. Free mantle, who had mode his elifetiJii for Sa DEFAULTERS. On the motion of Lard HO:VICK, the names of the Defaulters on the Call of the Houfe, on Friday, were read over, when a few were excufed for non-attendance, and orders made for the atten dance of the remainder at fpecitled periods. The Enzlills Mem bus in Town were ordered to'attend to morrow; thofe in the country on to-morrow fennight. The Members for Scotland were ordered to attend to morrow fortnight, and thole for Ireland on to-morrow three weeks. Lord HOW ICK gitve notice, that, on the Report of the Bill for Aboliihing the Slave Trade, he would propofe a clauft, the Ara of which would be to give bounties for the captue.: of veffels en gaged in the comraband traffic of ih yes. The CIizINCELLOR of the EXC:FLEQIJER gave notice, that in the Committee of Supply, he thould move that the (urn ad vanced to his Pruflian M aje fly he made good. 'llse con fideration of the Mayo petition was poftponed, on mo tion, to dm 3d of April. WESTMINSTER ELECTION. The Order of the Day having been read for taking the petition of James Paull, Efq and others into conflderation, complaining of a high breach of privi lege in the undue intetfetence, and tampering with witneffes, Mr. SHERIDAN obferved, that he had heard, with very great regret, that it was the intention of fome perfons to move; as this was a quellinn of pri vilege, that ((rangers thould withdraw. Now this was a meafure to which he hoped no Gentleman would refort. He deprecated any proceeding of the kind. There was nothing relating to this petition whiCh it was not his moll anxious wiih thould be dif culled, as freely, and made as public, as pollible.— He therefore trufieLl that no gentleman would make any motion of the nature he mentioned. Mr P. MOORE limed, that he held in his hand a number of petitions from different perfons nettled; who walled for an opportunity of being heard in their defence, against the total calumnies with which they wcre charged in the petition of Mr. Paull. The SPEAKER having fuggdaed fume difficulty as to the manner of difpoling of the original queitinn, Lord TEMPLE observed, that it mull be the with of every member in the Houle to have all the light pulible thrown upon the important queftion involved in there Petitions. It was therefore his opi• neon that they fhould be received. Mr. MOORE then prefented a Petition from Henry Burgefs, praying to be heard 'in his defence. Lod FOLKESTONE contended; that the Peti tion was p:etnature. It fecrued, in filet, to admit that the allegations in Mr; Paull's Petition were proved. M. SHERIDAN hoped the Noble Lord 'Grid net mean to refule to perfons accufed the liberty of being heard in a-ir defence. He timid think it vet v hard indeed, if witneffes fhould be fummoncd againa him, and that he fhonld not be allowed to defend himfelf by contrary evidence. As to the perf.ns whole namef were mentioned in Mr. P.tu:Ps Petition, he never (poke to 3ne of them but in the prefence of .1 third perfon. The objed of the Petition prefented by his Honourable ?'•lend was nei , her more nor lee than this, that perfons arraigned would be heard in their defence. Lord HOWICK, in a few words, expreffed him felf of the Cube opinion. Lord FOLKSTONE explained. Mr. BIDDULPH conceived that on fo grave and fericus a filbjeet, any perfnn bringing forward a Petition of the nature of that prefented by the Noble Lord, was not cnly entitled to the indulgence Of the Houk, hut to every affirtance from the Chair. A fecund Petition from James Wallis, and a third from Frederick Human and Alexander jahnfon, praying tolie heatd in their defence, were prelented by Mr. Moore. Mr. SHERIDAN raid, he held in hand, a lift of witnetfes which he withed to attend on his part Previous, however, to handing .it to the Chair, for the purpofe of having the quettion put individually on the names, he wai anxious to learn from an Ho nourable Member, why the Petition from St. Mar tines le Grand was riot prefented ? He held a Petition, which would prove that the whole of the Petition which had been rejeaed on a former day, was a grokand infamous fraud upon the refpedlable perfons whole names were fuhfcribed to it. Mt.BIDDIJLPI-1 laid, that when he prefented the Petition, he apprifed the Houfe that he was not in any way refvnfible forth: allegat i ons contained in it. Mr.' WHITBREAD corroborated this llaternent. Mr. SHERIDAN repeated, that the fraud was of the molt grofs and infamous nature, and that there were perfons attending to prove it at the Bar. The Right Honour able Member then handed his Eft of witneffes to the Speaker ; upon which, with the con currence of Lord Foliclione, the quettion was put on the whole at once, when they were ordered to attend. The Order of the Day was then read, when Lord FOLKSTONE moved, that the Petition of James Paull, Efq. be now taken into conlideration, and that the Petitioner be heard by himfelf, cr Coun fel, and witnetres. Lord HOWICK expreffed his doubts whether ;he Petition could, continent with the prefent practice of the Houfe, he taken into confideratiun. He was aware that fuitors, generally fpeaking, were entitled to he heard, particularly when their complaints re ferred to foch firkin matters as breaches of privi lege, and that it was the duty of the Houfe to inter pole, and take care that the ends of jutiice fhonld not be fruftrated. Notwithtlanding this general prin ciple, he had his doubts whether the pi e,ent Petition could be entertained. There was but one precedent of the kind on the Journals, which occurred in due reign of King William, at a time when the mode of tryirg Controverted EleCtions, or detet mining any thing 'elating to them, was very different from what it was at prefent. He was, however, difpofed to re linquifh any objections which, for the reafons lie had hated, he might have offered againft the prefent mode of proceeding, and to bring the whole butinefs before the Honk in filch a public manner, as to take away from thofe who were concerned in promoting it any pretence for Paying that their complaints had not been lillened to by the Houfe. In conceding this to them, he truaed that an i-Julgence, which was di reftly contrary to the fpirit and practice of the Gren ville Al, would not be abufed, and that the exatni nation would flatly be confined to the charge of tampering with witnefres ; that ;to extraneous matter would be introduced ; that nothing affeeing the rights of EleCtion, or the merits of the Petition should be brought forward. Every Court certainly had a right to proted its own proceedings, but with this guard, that nothing affecting the main quellicn fhould be collaterally determined. The parties were bound to keep as firiCtly as poLlible to the ground of com plaint. The Clerk then read the precedent of a cafe which occurred in the time of King William. It was that of Samuel Shepherd, Efq. in which Condit was called in, and heard at the bar, in fupport of a com plaint of tampering with witnefres. Mr. T. GRENVILLE confidered this as a new cafe, which ought not to be entirely governed by the precedent which had been quoted. He felt confider able doubts of the correanefs of the Houfe having proceeded fo far upon this bufinefs, as if it did not come altogether within that defcription of cafes which the law requited to be tried by a Comnfittee, and not by the Houfe, yet it bordered fo clofely upon that line which the law laid down, that it was his opinion that it ought to be left to the decifion of a Committee. He thould with the Houfe to paufe fur a moment, and confider whether it was or was not poffible for complete jultice to be done in this cafe by a Committee appointed in the manner provi• ded by the law ? He conceived that filch a Commit. tee would be bell qualified to examine the whole of the cafe, and, if any wrong was eflabliffied, they would be competent to point out what reparation could be made. The Committee could be ordered by the Houfe to make a tpecial xeport, upon the allega tion of tampering with v.itneffes, and by this means there would be nn inconvenience to public jullice. If the Committee were equally competent to entertain tl.e Wind's upon oath, as the Houle, in its general , capacity, he could have no hefitation in Paying, that I it was the more eligible tribunal in itfelf, as well as the moll regular one, according to the provifions of the law. The relent quellion might be refolved into two : tft, whether the Houk fhould entertain the conGderariou cf the petition ? and fecondly, whether Counfel fhould be pet muted to be called in I or, if Counfel were called in,whether they lhould be allow ed to plead as advocates, or merely obliged to con fine thernlelves to examining ssitnefies ? If Counfel (horrid be allowed to plead at the Bar in favour of the petitioner, it would be a very difficult matter to confine them to the fimple point which the Houfe took under its own confederation, 'and to prevent them from faying any thing about the eledlion itklf, which is a matter that the Houfe ought not to Wien to, as it belongs'by law to another tribunal, namely, the Committee appointed to try and determine the, merits of EleCtion Petitions. • Mr. LEIGH thought it better that the matter fhould be altogether left to the Committee. If the .Houfe examined the petition, in whatever way they might determine, whether for or againit the petition, it might prejudice the Ccromittce who were to deter• mine upon the elation. Tithe Houk Moo' that the petition was well grounded, they roit'.l e,, n . fider that cattle as moll unfonal, in elicit it w ts net ceffary M teraCtit'n k Anti unclt hana fclieines, of tarnperirg with e.i!riCEF,WLI:Ii Vens c'-are e e ; 11 the petition. If, on the other hand, the pe;iti.mer's allegation, and the evidence of his evi:ecEs, wive not believed it, that Heide, he lone wiineff,s w ou ld come under great cliferteht to give their neth when they fhould be examined .t!ote the Eieni ,n c orn _ mittee. He therefore cerfiltred that it e mild be prejudging ant improperly iafiliencing the e•rermi , nation of the Committee, for the lltule to take this point into their own conlide:atien. Mr. PERCEVAL tha.teht Ocis eueflian had been naifunderltoed by thole Ii .11. Mend) Ts who divided it into two parts : fit sl, whether the floti_ fhould entertain the petition ? and, fecondly, whether the petitioner fhould he heard by his Counfel ? The lino ple oiiint was, Whether be fhould he heard by C •ur • fel i A? to the other point, whether the Houle flo entertain it, thrt had elreody been deci e li• i. The Houle bed enter:aired it, mode t• :re preeo-ls itt the dilcullion of - 4i, and .ha e l furnmened tuft, :;;eh attend in filppert of its allegations. The poncipal objeaion appealed to him to be, that quellions of the fame kind were ufually determined in the Committee. He was by no means prepared to fay, that the Com mittee would be hilly as proper a place as the Flntife to enter 'yen this invefligation. There were, hew l ever, two principal übjetts timed in the Petition ilelf —the flea was, punning the offence, .whist; was Elated to have been committed, and the feeend was to preveeit the effeas of a fyttem of tampericg Yith the witnedes, which, if allowed to go to a greater ex tent, might defeat the merits of the Elation Petition. (Mr. Sheridan appeared to Phew finale ligns of dd . - plealure.)' He hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Sheridan) did not fuppofe, that he meant to Itate that there had aftually been any improper tam e pering with witnefTes ; he only meant to date that the I Petitioner alledged it ; and therefore, to argue upon his allegation, if fuch a fyftern die prevail as he had Rated, it would evidently be neeettary that it feauld be flopped before the cafe of the Wefiminfter Elec tion fhould be taken into consideration by the Corn; mittee appointed for that purpofe. That Committee wa; not to fit until the Lieth of April ; and therefore. if loch praftices were refotted to as had been aliteiged, it would appear abfolutely neceffary that the Hoefe World extinguith them, before they had time to pro. duce their lull circa. As to the Petitioner bring heard by Counfel, he thought that was the regular and ufual way. If it was merely a complaint of a breach of privilege, he thought the H .iefe ought not to hear its privileges &I - cuffed by a C v uttfel at that Bar ; but here there was a complaint an the part of the Petitioner, to the proof of which he had been allowed to call evidence ; and therefore he • thought he ought alfo to be allowed the benefit of Counfel. In all ordinary cafes, wherever a perfon was aliowed to (peak himfe If in fupport of his petition, he was per mitted to be heard by his Counfel if he preferred it. As to the Courfel exceeding the line Which alone could be admiGible upon that (neat - tom it would be always in the power of the Chair, or of any indivi dual Member, to reftrain and check them ifthey trad greffed the appointed boupds. e The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. thought it of the greateft importance that the Honk fhould go into an immediate examination. The quel. tion he thought lay in a very narrow compafs, and relied merely on the balance of conveniences and in conveniences attending the different modes which had been propofed. It muff be allowed on the one fide, that as the Committee were upon oath, and hid the power of examining witneffes upon oath, theHoufe itielf was a tribunal comparatively inadequate but then they muit balance the inconvenience of bringing the matter before a more adequate tribunal, againit the inconvenience and its confequences of delay.— The inconvenience of not immediately enquiring into the cloth of the allegations of the Petition, would, if they were founded, increafe the milchief of which they complained. He did not think the Elefliott Committee would allow themfelves to be bioffed by the decition oflnother tribunal upon another peint.— He thereiore, both from the importance of an im mediate inquiry, and becanfe it appeared muff con genial to the feelings of the parties, withed that rthe Petitioner fhould be allowed Counfel, and be now permitted to bring forward his witneffes iu flipport of his allegations. Mr. SHERIDAN did not with at that Rage to fay any thing,but only rote to interpofe as far as he could to prevent, if potlible, any oppofition being given to the immediate inquiry. With all pofflble reaped to the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grenville), for whole talents he profeffed the greatett etteem, he mull deprecate the fuecels of his arguments upon the prefent occafion. He wished immediately to enter upon his defence. The principal ground upon which he would reit his defence again(' the charges contained in that kandalnos libel would be, that not a man of the number of witneffes that would be brought up, deferved to be believed upon his oath If, however, he were to difcredit the let of witneffes which were now brought up, he made no doubt but that the Petitioner could bting up a frefh fet to the Committee. He cared not, however, whom he brought up. His objea was not fo much to pre. ferve his feat for Weitminfier, as to preferve his cha• rafter and his hon.ur. He fhould therefore pray and befeech the Houle, that when he fat down, they would let the Petitioner bring forward his witnetfes. He certainly would begin at a difodvantaee, for it would take fume time to bring up other wiinettes to prove what fort of people were brought forward on the other fide. Mr. BATHURST pointed nut a marked diffinc tion between the precedent quoted and the prefint cafe. He was againit the hearing of Counfel. Mr. BAKER thought it was too much to fay a any witneffes before they were brought in, that they were grofsly undeferving of credit, and not to be be lieved on their oath. He thought the Right Hon. Gentleman had in this in fiance taken an improper tone, and that it was the duty of the floule to pro tea witnefres on all tides, until it appeared that they were undeserving of proteaton.• Mr. WYNNE objeeted to the hearing of Counfel. The ATTORNEY GENERAL conceived it ne cettary that the perfans arcufed fhould be heard by their Counfel as well as their accufers. Although the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Sheridan) might be indifferent upon this poiat i yet there were many I