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eth Percentage, and his Contlitutional Councillors. I e late Minifters asled rightly in withdrawing the I Bill, which had been fo often alluded to. In aban-1 'cloning the meafure, they paid all the deference to the willies and fcruples of that Augull Perfonage that was required: In doing that they did quite as much as was necelTary. Had they fubfcribed to the tiro lution which was propofed to them ; had they bound themfelves by an obligation In contrary to the receiv. ed principles of the Conftitution ; had they given a pledge of Co novel, fo extraordinary ani fo unconfti tutional a nature, they would have been 101 l be yond all hope of redemption—they would have relin quifhed all fente of honour and of theme, and have given a fatal blow to the liberties of their country. — What would become of that great principle in our Conftimtion, the refprinfibility cf Minifters, if loch a pledge had been given ? It was this principle which conftituted one of the charaeletiltic differences be tween the free Britifit Conflitation and the abfolute governments of other countries. If Miniliers could not have free will and liberty of counfel, by what principle of jnflice, he would with to know, could they he confidered as retponfible ? He was alarmed, terrified he might fay, at the language of the day.— Such was not that which prevailed at the time rif our great deliverer, when the great Councils of the Na. Lion recommended tohim to difmifs his Dutch guards —and when a refuf.il on his part might have re pro. duced there fcenes which had once delpged the couro try with blood. The refponfibility of Minifters was one of the heft fafeluards of the Conftitution— and, that once deftroyed, though the mace might lie on the table, Rill the deuce of the Conflitution could not be Paid to be prelerved. If the great land marks were once gone, we should in vain look for the Conflitution. It was impoffible to recollat the con do& of the auguft Perfonage alluded to, without fen. timents of gratitude and veneration ; but on a quef tion In vitally important as the pretest, be would not compliment away the Confiitution ; he would not farrender that glorious inheritance which had been left to its by our anceftors, who, in former times, filled there benches with fo much honour to them felves and advantage to trier country. He felt him Pelf obliged to the Honnurable Gentleman who had brought forward this motion, for having afforded him an opportunity of recording his fentiments.— During the thort time he had the honour of a feat in the Houle, he gave his feeble fupport to the late Mi nifters, becaufe he conceived they underflood and purfued the interefts of the country. He could not, without fentiments of gratitude, relied upon what they had done, to lighten the burthens upon the shoul ders of the people. The Abolition of the Slave Trade was another mealti.. which commanded his appro bation. Their intentions to bring the population of Ireland and Scotland into the fervice ; their mea lures of retrenchment and economy, the advantages of whichwere hourly felt in every department of the State; their difpofition to heal the wounds of Ireland, and to conciliate the affettions of that important part of the Empire ; all there were iosefiftible motives with him for giving them his fupport. The extraordinary change which was the fubje& of loch general regret, would however not be unattended with Come advan tages. The country would learn from it, who they were among its reprefentatives who would never aban don their own charaelerr, or the people's rights. — Though the late Adminifiration had loft their power, fill they might fay with the gallant Frenchman, (Francis I.) " We have loft every thing but our Lo. nour." This was a confolntion, which ought to fup port them, and would. For himfelf he had nothing to fear, and nothing to hope from any Adminiftration. It was a matter of perfeB indifference to him, by what fee of men the affairs of the Countrq were admini ftered, fo they were well adminifered. There wasp he would admit, great Ihrewdnefs, great dexterity, and confiderable talent, among the prefent admini. oration. But as to thole great and commanding qualities which fhould ckara,flerize the Government • of a Country, maintaining the preeminent fituation that this did, they were removed fr...m their prede ceffors to an incalculable dillance. Thinking this, be could not give them his fupport. .Mr. OSBORN would detain the Houle but for a very fhort time. He would leave to others, who were better qualified to dircuis it , the propriety of the meafure, to the rash introdation of which the late Minifters owed their difmiffal. For himfelf, he was determined to give every Alliance in his power to the maintenance of that Conftittrion in Church and State, in the principles of which he had been educe ted, and upon the religious obfervance of which he conceived the bell fecurity of that Conftitution to re fide. Seeing no neceffity whatever for the recrgni ti.,n of ao abaraft principle of the nature propofed, he would endeavour to get rid of it, by moving,— " That the oth er orders of the day be no w r e ad. " The originaquellion and amendment having been read by the Speaker, Mr. BASTARD obferved, that the misconception with regard to the nature and extent of the original meafure, Arofe, as he underftoodefrom the impetfea explanation of Miniflers. He walled to know the precife grounds upon which the difference between them and an Auguß Perfonage arofe. He never ap proved of the difcuffion of abarati propolitions, and fooner than entertain that propofed by the Hon. Gen tleman who opened the debate, be would vote that the ether orders of the day be now read. Mr.MAURICE FITZGERALD felt it to be his duty to avpid any difcuffion of the Catholic Qtienion, which, in his opinion, was introduced for no other inirpofe than that of giving . a certain bias to the moft important conftitutional point that ever came Wore the Houfe. There was not a sentiment in the refolu tirn propolid, which' interfered, in the leaft degree, with the prerogative. Minifters, as Coon as they found that infutmountable objef.tions were entertain ed In a certain quarter to a meafure which they - thought neceffaty, contented to withdraw it. Could they have given a tironger intlance of being advocates for prerogative ? I'he late &Unifiers polleffed the Confidence of the public, as well as great talents, and their removal• vita be a filbjea of general re. Bret. He dreaded the effelt which die recent change might prodoce upon the feelings of the people of Ireland. They could not loon forget the great benefits and fecuriry which they de rived from the mild and beneficent Government under which they enjoyed a degree of tranqoillity which could fc,srcely have been expeeed. He eon. . hired, that his motives fur tuppotting the late :Ital. . nets were fornewhat of a perfonal nature. When he, law tha' a Gentleman (Mr. Grattan), whole opinion might be confidered as the public fentiment of Ireland, gave them his fupport, he had little hefitation in following that pet fon, who, above any one he ever ' .knew, had the fentiments of that country with him. He regretted, that with refped to Ireland, he would' Rate it without offence, fuch lamentable and grofs ignorance Ihould prevail. As far as regarded that part of the empire, it could not be denied, that a deplorable degree of apathy prevailed. The queftion was no other• than this : WIII or will you not avail yourfelf of the fupport of between four and five millions of people ? Thefe truths might be unpleafant, but he hit it his duty to exprefs them. Sir THOMAS TURTON tlated, that the original propofal of Minifters went no farther than to make the At of 1793 valid in England. When they de parted from this intention, it was their duty to explain it to his Majefty but did they do fir ? Did the Noble Lord explain thole fweeping alterations, the tendency• of which was to repeal the 'left Laws as far as they regarded the Army and Navy? As to his Minifters claiming any metit for having abandoned the =a fore, he thought they would be more entitled to the praife of confittency and the fupport of the Houfe had they perfevered in it. As it was, it looked as if they meant to claim for themfelves all the merit of having introduced the meafure, and of calling upon their Sovereign the obloquy of its rejedion. What, in fad, was the nature of the pledge, as it was called, required from them? They ftipulated with their Soveteign that they (hall be allowed to exprefs their fentiments fully and freelyupon a particular meafurewhen it (hall come under confederation. To this he affents, but requires at the fame time that he (hall be no more importuned on a fubjed which is difagreeable to him. He Pays, in fad, .6 You may do this, but when you have done In, let me hear no more about it." An allufion had been made to the condo& of King William on a par ticular occafion. If.the Hon. Gentleman who made it had carried his refearches a little farther, he would have found that that great Prince had beenlo teazed by his Minifters, that he adually meditated the abdi cation of the throne. Gentlemen who made appeals to the Houle and the Country, would alto do well to fay fornething in favour of the prerogative. Several allulions had been made, in the courfe of the debate, to the fyftem purfued by the late Minifiers with tefped to Ireland. Did it follow that thefe falutary meafures were to be abandoned ? If they were con ciliating, if they tended to fecure the peace and tran quillity of that country, that wculd be of itfelf a fuf ficient inducement to the prefent Adminiftration to walk in .the fame path. Some political prophecies had been uttered in the courfe of the evening. To fuch predidions he paid but little attention. He generally found that thofe who pronounced them meant to ad upon them, and that having contributed to bring about the very evil which they affeCted to deprecate, they then came forward and claimed merit for their political furefight. The real queftion before the Houle was, whether the Sovereign was or was not to be fupported is the fair exercife of his latera -1 gative againft an ariftocracy which had the prefump lion to endeavour to diftate to him? No one would be happier than himfelf to fee all religious and politi cal animofitiea fubfide, but he would not, by rafts and inconfiderate fpeculations, hazard the edifice of the Conftitution. He would with to amalgamate and identify with each other the different nations of whicb I the Empire was compofed, but he would not compro , mile the fafety of the molt important part of it. Mr. CU RWEN Paid, haves a fubjed of regret that this queftion fhould have been confidered in a reli gious view. He thought his Majefty was ill-advifed ; firft, in requiring the pledge which he demanded from his late Minifters, and next, in difiniffing them, in confequence of their refufal. The queftion was not, as it was Rated, an abftrad queftion. It was the re cognition of a gt eat political principle, and lhould therefore have hi. fupport. Colonel TUFNELL obferved, that the late extra ordinary change could only be attributed to the un conflitutional nature of the advice given to his Ma jefty. This change was deeply to be lamented, for ` neither at home nor abroad could any confidence be placed in the permanence of the prefent Adminiftra lion. So far from it, the very enemy would derive ! the greateft hopes from the caufes of the change. Looking to the unhappy confevences which were likely to follow, he lamented that the meafure, even neceffary as it might be, had been ever brought for. ward. As to the pledge which was required, Mini fters would not only have difgraced themfelves, but violated the Conftitution, had they fubmitted to it. Had filch a pledge been demanded and obtained a century ago, the Houle would not now have. to de bate upon the Conftitution. Mr. FULLER Paid, that the real quellirm was be. tween one let of Minifters and another ; whether the prefent Adminittration fhould be driven out, and the King forced to violate his confcience and refign his prerogative? If the King had ventured fifty years ago to violate his coronation oath, and to diffolve Magna Charta, the Minifters irho whiled him to r,...5. meafures would have been impeached; but the recent affairs in Ireland and elfewhere gave, it teems, a kind of fandion to fuch councils. He law no Life in giving way to fuch propofals. Thirty years ago he tecol leded Lord North, in confequence of Come motions made in that Houk, fent 70,000 Rand of arms to 1 Ireland, which as loon as the people obtained , they bid defiance to this country, and thefe very mufkets were fusee employed is all the rebellions which arofe in that country. He thought it bell to oppofe tilde demands in the outlet. If a man were m the prac tice of !boring him from the wall, the way of pre venting a repetition of the ;atilt, was not by obfery ing to him, 4 , Pray do not do fo again," but to Rand up to him, and (hew a good countenance. He had 1 , refleded a good deal upon the political life of the family which was at the head of the late AdmMiftra 'ion, and it appeared to him, that they were always too much attached to theories. One of them, by his meafures, loft America, and he feared, that another, r by the Bill for the Abolition of the Slave Trade, would lofe the Weft Indies. The motion before the Houle involved an unneteffary abftrad propofition, ,which they were not called upon to difcufs, and he would, therefore, vote for the other Orders of the Day. Mr. PLUNKETT declared that he was not one of thole men, whom an Hon. Baronet (Sir T. Tur ton) had fn.ppofed were anxious to load the perfons of iris Majefty's new Minifters with obloquy and se- preach. He was lure that his Majefty, who was the kind father of his people, had acted only on the repre• fentations of others, that .64 the Church was in dan ger." Thole who had, however, been the foremoll to let up this cry, and to found this alarm, had thrown upon themfelves a great weight of refponfi bility. It was incumbent upon them to prove the eziftence of that danger. He had yet to learn, and the Houle had yet to learn, how, and from what ,quarter danger was to be apprehended to the Etta blifhed Church. No man felt more ftrongly than he did the advantages to both countries, from the con• nexion with Ireland ; no man withed more that that connection should be firmly cemented, and no man was more firmly attached to the Proteftant Ella. blithment of Ireland, which he conceived to be no lets important than the connection itfelf. If, then, he could fee any ground for fuppoling the Proteftant ellablifbment was in danger, he would be as readras any man to raife his voice in its fupport, and to ring the alarm to the country. He was at a lofs, however, now to difcover from what quarter this danger was threatened, and it did appear to him that men who, upon fuch flight grounds, or rather upon no grounds at all, could come forward, and wantonly difturb the peace of that country, did not thew themfelves to be men periled of loch difcretion as fhould be ex _peeled from there to whom the adminiftration of the laffairs of the empire were to be committed at a trills like the prefent (loud cries of hear, hear!) After the meafure had been abandoned, Rill the cry was art fully kept up that the church was in danger. He lbould therefore beg leave to call the attention of the Houle to the A& of 1793, and he would firft obferve that that Irifh Alf did not apply merely to Irifh Ca tholics, but to all Catholics (crying in the army of Ireland. Since the Union, however, there no longer exifted any feparate army cf Ireland, nor any (epa rate eftablifhments, but before the Union Englifh Catholics, if (crying in the army of Ireland, were entitled to the benefit of the Aft of 1793. At pre fent, by the law of the land, the King is empowered to grant commiffions in Ireland to Catholics, and it would be certainly a orange thing to tell thofe Ca-i tholics that, although they were vety fit to be trolled in Ireland, yet they were not fit to be trufted in any other part of the world. If the artful endea vours to keep up the cry of the Church being in dan. ger was confined to placard: flock up againft the walls, or to Proteftant Tongs and religious choruffes,perhaps thofe endeavours would not merit any fevere repre• henfion ; but he had been informed of other attempts which he thought were deferving of more ferious at tention. The peace of the Univerfity of Dublin had lately been diflurbed with attempts from a very high quarter, to procure an Addrefs to his Majefty, Rating that the Church and the Proteftant Religion were in danger. Two letters had been written to the Uni• verfity by its Chancellor (the Duke of Cumberland) to procure fuch an Addrefs. The firft produced but' , very,little effea ; but in the fecoad the Royal Duke to whom he alluded Rated (as he was informed) that fuch a Rep would be the only means of recommending I that Univerfity to the favour of his Majefly. [Loud cries of hear, hear 1 He confidered that nothing could be more unconaitutional than this mode of ufing his Majefty's name to procure addreffes or petitions to Parliament. He thought, however, that it would be neceffary to confider the time at which fuch cur rims were made to get a petition from the Univerfity' of Dublin. It was either after the Bill had been abandoned that it was endeavoured to raife the fer ment and outcry, as it was in contemplation of its ferving the new Minifters. If the attempt was made before his Majetly had efpied the flighteft difapproba. tion, it was evident how far the machinations of fecret advifers operated ; if it was after the Bill was abandoned, it was equally evident that it was then the purpofe of effecting a change of Adminiat ation, which was Rated to have been produced by other caufes. He could not Rate at prefent the date of this laft letter ; but he mull fay generally, that whether it was before the Bill was abandoned or immediately after, it equally (hewed what fort of engines had been let to work to fpread the alarm that the Chords ' and the Proteftant Religion were in danger. When he heard the name of Religion mentioned, he felt that every thing which was moft dear to his heart was touched ; but when the name of Religion was fo dear tp him, it wasfrouri its intrinfic value, from its dictating and concentrating all the amiable chari. tics of life—from its breathing the fpirit of toleration and mutual affection, and not as being the rallying word of a perfecuting party. He knew there were. many in that Houfe to whom true religion was dear, and he therefore called upon thofe who polkaed it in their heart:, and who did not ufe it as a watchword for perfecution, to (hew it in their votes in favour of a fyßem of toleration and benevolence to all darks cf his Majetty's loyal fuhjeas. He (hi add then call the attention of the Houfe to the pledge, which * was required from the late Minitiera. This pledge he coafidered in the higheß degree dange rous and unconflitutional, and tending directly to' fubflitute fecret whilperers in the place of refponfible wome n and Advifcrs of the Crown. He conceived' it of the molt dangerous confequences to have it nip poled, that the Miniflers of this Country could hive one duty to their Matter and Sovereign, which was directly oppofite to their duty to their country. He conceived that this particular pledge would c,:ntpto mile the fafety of Ireland. The Rate of the Catho lics of Ireland was this:—During the court': of his Ntajetly's reign many coneeffions had been made to them, and many of the advantages to which they were entitled had been granted them. In confcquence of this many of them had arrived to wealth, honour, and ,diainftion. It would be Aced by many, ought not this to content them, and ought they to prefs for any thing more ? It was not, however, in human nature to be fo contented. He fhould appeal to the individual feelings of the Members of that Houfe, who all of them enjoyed wealth, honour, and di(tinc- Lions in fociety, if they were to be told. ' You ought to he well fatisfied with thole advantages, and fhould be content not to be admitted into the full participation of the Conftitotion,' would they be fo contented ? They would not—it was not in h u m an nature th a t they fhould. The Catholic G e nt r y- o f I re l an d were now in that fituation of exclufion, and ansioufly withedito be received into ti.e bofom of the Canal omearfidiedr e t r aeor r pe a d d ,et ed wa , bhi a ie n chfi d t t w h aa e ts y ion w by ith : cation —the CatholicPriefthood were at prefent unpaid fttandre altoCt I h t g o r rleibcaet populat i onet imt paili4t int o o a f its inhgbitant: l alto felt Yes themf I e degraded by the humiliation of their Nobilil, their C en t" I and their Prietthood. It was impotrible that they flould not feel in that' mottle, and it aas im. , politic to difappoint their • natural and jug feelings and expeaations. Such was the aaual fituation of Ireland :—he would snot pretend to point out the fpecific remedy, but this •he w y rrild fay, that it was impo!bble fur Ireland to continue much longer in the [late in which it is at prefent.—. It might be thrown into a worfe Rate, it might be put into a much better Rate ; but every one that was I acquainted with its *dual fituation, and he w ou ld appeal to the Right Hon. Gentleman who was lately Secretary for that country (Mr. Eliot) who mud know and agree that it was impoffible that it lhould remain long as it is at prefent. We might as well (hut our eyes, and then fay there was no danger, as remain longer in indifference and apathy rerpeeling the fituation of Ireland. The pledges that were de manded from the late Minders would have a molt important effect upon the fituation of that country. The Minillers were to be abfnlutely prevented from even propofing any thing in favour of its population, Every paltry Corporation, the Insert individual caw in the empire, bad, by the Confliaation, a right to prefent his petition to the King, or to the Legifiature —but now, for the firft time, it is Rated, that r oar millirns of the people of Ireland (hall be debarred of the right of petitioning, or what is equivalent, they are told that no petitions they may preent !hall la paid any attention tn. This was not only a novelty, but a prodigy, an alarming appearance in the C at . fiitution, and which f4emed to portend the great ' danger (cries of bear, bear !) This general iiierdie. tion appeared more like Come divine chanifement to a p:oile, than like any meafure which human policy could have adopted. What mutt he the effea of thole tranfaaions whi..t . . hive recently taken place? The Catholics of Ireland would be given to under ftand, that the Royal ears were hermetically leaded againft them ; that the Minifters of the Crown were bound by fome pledge, carrels or implied, never to prnpofe any redrefs far them, but always to read their claims. This corifideratian filled him with the molt ferious apprehenfisms, and when he laid fo, he mutt take notice of an expreftion that had fallen from an Hon. Baronet (Sir T. Turton), ' that thole who propliefied thole dangers intended to adt in loch a manner as to bring their prophecies to their acmes plifhment.' Nothing could be more unparliamentary or indecent than this obfervatinn. He fhould tut, however, be prevented by it from exprefling fully thofe apprehenfrons which he felt. He had in Ireland fo many dear plidges, that no man could fufpeahim of lightly wifhing to offer any obfervations which could tend to difiurb its tranquillity or endanger its fecurity : he knew, however, that there were many fiends and demons waiting to feize on every opportu nity to effea a reparation of the two countries, and he conceived that they would take every advantage of the difcontents which the Catholics might feel— he felt that we were walking per ignes fuppO'icts crnere dolofo ; he did not mean to fay that the danger Ins immediate, it might be fmnothed over for a year or two, • but it would continue to keep Ireland the mei vulnerable part of the Empire. If a meafure of tack unneceffary outrage as this was perfevered in, he thought it might (hake to the centre the conneaion between the two countries, and the profperity, if not the exiftence of the Empire. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (Mr. Perceval) was very far from imputing to soy Gentleman the intention of promoting difturbances by any obfervations made in that Huufe, and be agreed with the Right Hon. and Lezrned Gentleman who fpoke lag, that nothing could be more unparlia mentary or improper than Inch an infatuation. H was alto certain that, in point of faa no mifchie could be produced by the manner in which the Riglt Hon. Gentleman had eapreffed his kntiments i be he hoped that tie fame indul;ence would be allowd to him, and to the Gentlemen who fh-.old entertait an oppofite opinion to that expreffed by the Rigit Honourable and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Plunkett). He trufled that it would never be fuppofed that be was a man capable of founding an alarm, and crying out that the Church and the Protefiant Religion me in danger, merely to ferve the purpofes of party,or to obtain power. He trufted, that no pet Con alio knew him would fuppnra, that he would cry out that the Protehant Eftabliflunern was in danger, if he dill not really believe it to be fo. He had, however, it prehended confiderable danger, not to much from the Bill itfclf, which was brought in, as from tk principle of giving conceffions for the purpofe of ma ciliating the Catholics. The Right Hon. and Leami Gentleman had himfelf Rated the difficulty that them would be in conciliating them in this manner. it had laid, that it was not in human nature that thy fhculd be fo eafily contented ; that the Cathie gentry and prieffliood were dircontented, as wells the mars of the population. If that were the elks how far mull thole conceffians be carried ? It ap- peared to him, that not only the principle of the Right Hon. Gentleman, hut that of the Noble Lord alko brought in the Bill, would go to bring Catholic Mat- • hers iuto that Houle, and Catholic Bithops to reprats their Prielthood in the Houle of Lords rod cry if A'o, No!) It certainly did appear to him, that the principle would have gone to that event, and thee fore he had oppLfee it; and, under thole impreffictia he did confider that the Proteflant Ellablifitmest of Ireland was in ferious danger. If the Catholicsd Ireland were not to be conciliated, without fatisfying there anxious Gentry and expeaing Plieillmod, he did not fee how the Proteitant Eftablifhtnent cold Rand in that country. The argument, however, of the Right Honourable Gentleman did not appiar to apply' fo much to the refolution then before the Hotife. as it would have applied to the Bail of the Noble Lord (Howick) V. t;en k was bet . . re the Houle. That argument he was however ready to meet upon a proper occali :n ; but he Fhoold avoid entering into it at prefent, as conceiving it not iftillly applicable to the preterit gleaion. He could fiat however avoid raying, that it was inconceirthle to him upon what principles his Majetty's lAte Milliners could reconcile it to their feelings aad their knfe of duty, to abandon a Bill which they had at fill Dated as inditpenfably neceffary for the testuil of Ireland. He could not underhand either how It was to be confidered as fo very urconflitotivas T endeavour to procure a petition to that Hotife ORR any meafure pending in it. [Mr. Pavgasr begged pardon for interreP!. i . n g ... him, but fail that what he had !Lard as uraltiL tional, was not t but the ufe that I procure it.] The CHANCI fumed his fpeech. tleman had interr have his ftate men Be allowed that i tile of his Majelly pore of influencii equld not fee th flitutional, in ms procuring an adc the time of the He in diCcuffing eithe tion, or of the dill prefent. If he 'would not only ti part of the Sea; thofe meafures, cuffed. He could tnere words of th was-now fubmitte and which it woi muff be taken (a conneded with a it muff be confide in the words intended and imp by no meant kind oppofe it. fhe . implied by it wa lot his conduit i in the circumfta This was a pro confenr, both as King in a manne becaufe he thou than to decide t ter . ials to go upot parties. '''here to he implied in t sever admit, nan millers had, upon pledge, either exF !Affairs from pro; would be an eau this queflion, to which were fo R 1 confider it as a I be true in general apply to that mot nor to the real ni could not be fair but a vote of cen to pall refoluticr any individual in heard the cafe ft, be unjuft in the much more unju our beloved Sove brought before I examined there? As to thole fecre to.affume, mere debate, as far a Majefty had no. the dilates of h He did not meat former Miniften fliniftration, he to fay, that in ri late Minifters, h of his own mind that the Houfe a winced, that he fecret advifers brought forwar difmiffal of Mi then certainly h Trim, about the —ln the confide with the pledge ded into three c prior To the intr Its introdudion and the third, cAs to the firft bred it to be t to bring in fuel 'the intention n was granted E and merely up, to be a meafu Thofe who br words, which the Mt of 17 iiiictars was :ipply to the L the Bill, Nowt (Howick) not Loki, butwarri tymithdrewhi than the Aft e that extent, hi abce in this re ing his being conceffions, a upon that fob pole that his I Sure, when pre the Ad of 17i polar of it in sn Honourab two days, on the Irifh Men formable Bar/ was quite not have no obje than what 1 ttifo no lefs tl confidered it when they fe cry of no, no! Erfkine, Elle One of thole evento have that the mew pr opofed. curnfiance— office is Cupp confcience, I where it wa fcience of th the fcro,plel famed firm