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C lare, sand an with i rescri pointa toe Comm If cert additic should p!ete i lion. t hat a were r prever in rag bad or t his, b expuis Coma and 5:I chariti inquir vent us they c this sc Learn Chart Westr was tl him raise 1 tlema in the solicit He Is was 1 wrong Gent! ing th yet, N when Right itself ahoy opene was tl by thi for L mann for 0 vrasl. afters then his el whicl Why West • once ject, - mud succe a sin] out a Mem outs well mete ted part With for h of it • by zi thou, await zeal tism, geth , were term • pose • hear, °lase fectl was fron ("1 Z muc pect was pout corn kno , • sizte who c It b HOT that the side Hoe r, fror the :0 Squ '4•lu C* A NT at Vote aga per, the wh, ▪ wit is u:o ot • '1 it ud Le. oth .;ei ,issioned upon fence that which he (, - n ot, he contended, public man who fully, to discharge , whether he had or had he had imposed upon himself, lad not lurked or waited l)ure he had proposed, till I by the notice made at the ,e, Ile should then do hi, , r e, that he had manfully J o lts to the measure proposed among other reasons which it, the chief and principal one was; that it scribed a limitation to the powers of the Certi. ~aners, and he therefore moved for the reap.' intent of the Committee.. This he had done, be- J -e he thought it of the last importance that the ~ ,mmissioners should be backed and supported.— certain charities were exempted. it only afforded ...itional grounds why the Commission of Enquiry s hould be enlarged. in order that general and tom. '-te information might be procured. The Right ion. Gentleman (Mr. Peel) had however, discovered • a Committee against which so many objections :ere raised, had shewn what were the best means of preventing beggars from loitering about the streets rags and indigence. There was one clause which ' originated with the late Mr. George Rose ; and , being thought exceptionable, was subsequently l unged. The Right Hon. Gentleman charged the :ommittee with transgressing the prescribed limits t I said, that while they were employed on public :rides, they had, at the same time, extended ler luiries to Westminster School • who would have .cured to do so? who would have supposed that they could possibly be induced to call the master of school before them ?—(Here the Honourable and Learned Gentleman was \ informed, that it was the "'tarter House School.)—Well, Charter House or (estminster School, it mattered not, the principle was the same with regard to both. But it was for bins (Mr. Brougham) to reflect with surprise, and raise eyes with wonder, that the Right Hon. Gen tleman had not said a single word on this subject, • the Session of 1816 ; nor had he evinced the least icitude about it, till this present Ses.ion of 1819. had, however, clearly proved, that he himself as right, and the Right Honourable Gentleman icing. It was true, that the Right Honourable mtleman had not, in 1816, an opportunity of read the Reports, as they were not printed at the tone; ~ when the Committee was revived in 'lbl7, and isen the Reports were printed, why did not the ,fight Honourable Gentleman's earnestness display itself? In that year, when the condition of the poor '. over the country was truly deplorable, he had not opened his lips upon the present question; and this was the more remarkable, since it was then opposed' the Right Honourable Gentleman, the Member Liverpool, in a most determined and' forcible manner. The only one then silent was, the Member - Oxford; and it might be fairly supposed, that he is looking, - at the tune, to that exaltation which he aterwards attained--(ther, hear.)— lf lils.-ears were then closed to the sounds that invaded shein, at least eyes ought not. to have been shut to the scenes which he must have beheld in every quarter ((rheas.) Why did he nOt then raise his voice in favour of. Westminster and the Charter House ? /416, he trever once appeared to entertain a thought upon the sub ject,- or to look at those inroads which he now so much deprecated—(Hear).—He (Mr: 13;ouichaml succeeded in getting the Committee revived; Without a single dissentient voice. A year passed away with. out any step being taken by the Right Honourable Member; 'and another year had' also elapsed, with out stimulating his zeal, though , he must have beert well acquainted with all the circumstances ccaa, netted with the measure ; and intimately acquain• ted with facts which were publicly detailed in every part of this vast metropilis—(Hear, hear, hear).— With such evidence before his eyes, it was.too much for him now to come forth, pretending the innocence of ingenuous astonishment. Had he been inspired by zeal in the discharge' of his;dtity, he. would have thought it necessary to guard, as much as be coild, against the innovations of Parliament; and had this zeal been kept alive by the spirit of an ardent patrio. tism, it would have blown _up the Committee alto. gether ; yet since the members of that Committee were fortunately yet left unconclemned, they were de termined to do all in their power to rehlize the pur■ pose for which they had been appointed—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.)—The Honourable Member here observed Mr. It. Martin smile., and said he was pee.' fectly sure that the Honourable Member for Galway' was prepared to concur in every thing'that had fallen from die Right Honourable Gentleman beside him— (d laugh.) He could not help saying, however, that much isarmony of opinion was not to have Leen ex pected by the Committee alluded to, composed as it was of men of different political views,, and different political feelings. Of the twenty-one Members who composed that Committee, no less than sixteen were known to vote invariably on the other side, and these sixteen were to be encountered by the remainintfive r who might be termed the Heratii of the. Corrunittac It being here observed, that there were only three Horatii, the Honourable and Learned Member said that he was well aware of that, but wished to take te same number which Hon. Gentlemen on the other side had not hesitated to take when making out their Horatii. He.then mentioned the following among those on. the Committee, who differently from those on his side of . the others were to be set squad, there being one, whom he knew not how reagh, the Chancellor of Wahraham. Mr. H., Davies, fir G. F. Hill, Ike. There voted one way nor the other, against such a division. perhaps, with the. other . there was' one Honourable who constantly gave his support to without doubt, from the purer ciotives. It would be unseeml: Paeral and independent Member public conduct had always been Judgment and disinterested feeling}. Learned Member then proceeded to other points contitieedin the.seee ;eutleman, Inainylningther .mpossible. ..e public t.. be dispatched within the regular time, from the vast number of papers to be printed. Ii was, he contended, evincing an utter ignorance of Parliamentary Pro ceedings, for the Right Honourable Member to ob to any such.letters having been written by him. He dwelt in the next place on the letter which he bad, in the course' of the present Session, addressed Ott the Clergy for information, respecting the state if education all over the country—observing, that his , principal object iu having written to them, was the desire of possessing a perfect knowledge on:the sub ject ; not only with regard to the nation at large, but also as it concerned every town and hamlet in th lingdorn. It was unnecessary for him to observe, he said, in order to satisfy the minds of all those who' knew him, that he had never, in ,any instance, as sumed an undue authority, with regard. to this measure; nor should he here think the imputation ,worthy of notice, were it not that he was anxious to convince those to whom he was -unknown, that:: it was utterly undeserved---(Cries o f hear, hear.)—e, The circulars addressed to the clergy were in the form of requisitions officially issued by him, as Chair man, and were not couched in the language of fa vour, but in the ordinary forms of orders to compel, them to answer all questions. These documents had been charged with a character of equivocation ; now there were only two modes in which requisitions from Committees were made out, directed to the persons, either saying, " it is ordered," or " yoU are required to attend and give evitience." He siquld' ask, was there any thing in the requisitions issued by him, that did not come under either of these defini tions? Again, it was said that the clergy were not bound to give answers to certain questions which were put to them. He contended that they were bound, and it was under a strong feeling that their evidence was necessary to the attainment of the ob sects of the Committee, that the circulars had been tutted, a species of summons resorted to, in order to save expense. He had now, he said, nearly gone through all the charges made in the Bill of Indict ment preferred against him by the Right Honourable Gentleman; before he concluded; however; he begged to be indulged in one observation in answer to the charge of his having converted • chi Eittnriticii,Com mittee to political or electioneering purposes. It bad been said, that he had: so far forgotten the trust imposed upon him as Chaii man, as even to make the minutes of that Committee ? üblic, to answer private ends. In refutation of this, he denied hav ing ever given any facility of access to those mi nutes, or even to his own notes . ---(Hear, hear).— Roach conduct as this he reprehended as Much as any one, though it had not,escaped his recollection that there was already on the Rego*, of that House a precedent to which he could appeal:fer_kistification. he instance to which he alluded, was one' wherein, the %Mates of a. Committee, which fur greater. secrecy *ad been impounded by.the !'ere by a Flight Gentleman in that House. seat to the . West ladies with a view to operate to the disadVa* tage s of. ; the (itentleman opponent.-(Hear, hear:). *sing now been permitted at such length to vindip cate.himself..he expressed his gratitude fqr the indul gence, at the same time assuring the House, that nothing but an-absolute obligation imposed upon him induced him-to do so. The effort he hid made was', es painful to him as it must appear tedious to them, but it was the effect of compulsion.. Perhaps, too, the necessity of standing out against a serious charge in his own and his friend's defence, totally unpre pared, had induced greater prolixity and less effect than it otherwise would if he had not been taken so completely by surprise—dear, hear). He had en deavoured not to pass untouched a single count in be Bill of Exceptions ; and if through oversight any one had been overlooked, from which an inference would be. drawn that he was unable to meet it, he said he would be eternally obliged to any one who would give hinl notice of it, when his strength was at another time more equal so the effort; and then concluded by saying, . as well cm his own. Fait as Chairtnin, as for every individual Membet of that Committee, that so far from shunning publicity, they .nly courted inquiry, and were anxious it should take place as soon as possible—(Hear, heap.) Mr. SHELDON bore testimony to the conduct of the Honourable Gentleman who had just sat down, in his, character of Chairman of the Committee. Mr. V. FITZGERALD then, ose, and in observing, :upcsalbe vindication of himself, just offered by the Honourable. and ',earned Gentleman. Who had- sat doWn, said he was surprised to set that coaverte4l into an engine ,of accusation agalisst his Right . Hon. Friendldr. Peel), In saying I.!as tar nook wishing to see that 'right abridged ; but there ems to, the present case 4. tope 9f !arc,suk iu the langu age;: and a train of insiutiapons, npon.the course adopted by that Honou,rible Genklemats iphich amounted to an absolute charge--(Hear).% -11 e Honourable and: the sarcasms the , a tion of his (Mr. Peel.)—(Heer, ~ ,-.)—lt Nil a ground, that nq observations h the Report of 1816, to which cessaryto say, that it could not be done, for the proper documents were not then upon the table. It was not of .any particular exercise of undue autho rity that his Right Floaourable Friend complained, it was of an accumulated assumption of power, which", a fear that it would be made a precedent, atone in-i duced him to stand forward and reprobate—(Hear, , , Gear.) hear.)—lt • was not competent to him to justify his ' having acted, after the end of the Session, to alledge i that the papers ordered by-the House, had not at the; time been printed. There was no precedent in thsi annals of Parliament to bear him out in that. Then, inf r respect to the circulars which had been issued, with a view, as he termed it, to perfect d " digest," and for which he had no authority at 04 the only espla... , nation he gave was, that it was his opinion that he' was right in so doing. Would such an explanation be deemed satisfactory by the House ?—(Hear, hear.) He was willing to take the disclaimer of tha t Hon. Wl t earned Gentleman to any charge made against lit as a sufficient answer; but really he could not` belp saying his explanation had been very insufficient] (Hear, hear !) if it was painful to him, as he pro= fessed it to be, to be uncles the necessity of shielding himself from charges, it was no less so to those w a paraniount .sense of public duty obliged to prefer them. That he had not before done so, arose not from a desire to shrink from it, but because no op portunity occurred of doing it with propriety. And. here he cotdd not help observing,• that there was as little discourtesy' in it as the circumstances of the case would admit. He then said, the Honourable and Learned Gentleman had always shewn too much sensibility on this question, making every allusion to the proceedings of the Education Committee as 'per• sonal to•himself, and concluded by giving it as his' opinion, that the conduct of that Committee had been such as to warrant all that had been said by his Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Peel). . Mr. F. DOUGLAS, as a Member of the Com- • ittee, eulogized the conduct of the Honourable Chairman. He said it was uncandid to bring for ward now,, uncalled for charges against a Commit tee which was no longer in existence, and that the time had'elapsed when they could properly 'be made, He then vindicated the mode in which the Commit tee had been appointed, saying that Gentlemen at that side of the House were as incapable of lending themselves to private ends, as any other Members ot, the House, and that the Committee, in examining witnesses, had not exceeded their authority., as it was usual, when a Committee had not finished their Re t port, to continue to take evidence to enable them to perfect it. ] Lord CASTI,.EREAGH said, he was not surptize d that his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Peel) had viewed this question in the light he did, from the light I.* twhiCh it had heretofore been placed by the Honour► eble and Learned Gentleman opposite. It was trtis k it discussion arose :out of It, 'which was apparently foreign to that immediately before the House ; but when a Instinct charge Of tepidity and remissness hid teen made against •his IY4esty's.Goyemment, a rer tort should naturelly be expected.. He thee said,the expense which the 'verltionOf . this ir, 1 I Would be productive of, could be no'objettiola to it, as money could not be betterlaid ' out than iii" examining into ]end collecting the abuses' in" charitable foundations. He found himself in rather a strange situation now, when advocating a clause in it which. had . been Pro posed last Session by .the Hon6urabfe-ind Uarned tentleman himself i for, extepeiti - having Special visitors, it was precisely the sank - . HCigtield not, then, think it either noxious or alarming -wile's- pre. posed and urged by this great•defender of Pnblic. Charities, and there was no difference now from the circumstances which existed *then. This Bill went no morithari to assist fhb Court of Chancery, and did not propose to interfere where there were special visitors. It was better than the Bill of last Session, inasmuch as it gave the Commissioners a power to obtain evidence, and held out means of immediately correcting any abuses, without- resorting to the tedi ,pus and extensive process. by stamps, or the inter ference of the Court of Chancery. Mr. PEEL said, the reasons which induced the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) to'ad dress the House a second time, operated equally with him—(A cry of Spoke! front the Opposition Benches.) If he was out of order, he hopiii the usual indul gence of the House, when charges were brought, would be extended to him. The Honourable Gentle.] man opposite (Mr. Douglas) was pleased to say that hp (Mr. Peel) came forward unnecessarily and un called for—( Hear, hear.) - - • Mr. J. SMITH rose to order. There was no mo. . ' before the House. Though the Hon. and Learned to . aleman (Mr. Brougham) commenced his speech stating, that it was his intention to conclude it by 31.1 notion, he did not do so. The Hon: Gentleman Opposite (Mr. Peel) he would submit, was not there ' there being • before the • last spoke. iHAM - with a direct corruption to the Heads c ceiv4 he lead just right to get up ana characteiltithene +end, were constituents, and the character of - thar seminary for which .be entertained a romantic attachment. He also strongly condemned the act of tilhoilending forth a circular letter by a per son calling himself - Clerk to the Committee. He did not'repent of having brought forward this mo tion ; he did so from a sense of• public duty, but he believed he was the last man in that House, against whom a charge of want of candour Could be made. Mr. WILBERFORCE declared, from his own knowledge, that most gross abuses prevailed in tbi University; and he took blame tohimself for having called the attention of Parliament for years to those abuses, with a view to their cynexpftee, He did not see any thing improper in the condigt of the Committee. or in the qiiestions put by his Hon e tad Learned Friend to the witnesses. He congratu lated the House on the very benefc:al progress al ready made in this great cause ; and . it was entirely owing to the indefAtigable diligence and perseverance, as well as to the great talents, of his Learned Friend (Hear.) Some years .ago; ha himself had brought forward a measure for the registration of Charities; and in the course:of inquiries which afterwards took place, he had discovered the most shameful abuses ; and it was high time that the funds of the abused Charities *should be applied to their proper purpose.: Mr. SMYTH (of Cambridge) said, he had been, in 1815, appointed a Member of the Committee, and did every thing in his power to promote the success of its labours ; but had left off attending it, during the years 1817 and 1818. Ide did, however, think, that the Members of the Committee had exceeded their powers, in putting unbecoming questions to witnesses—(Hear, hear),—at the- same time he la mented the unprovoked discussion brought forward by the Right Honourable Gentleman. Mr. JOHN SMITH declared that the most scow dalous statements had been publi bed respecting the Committee, and against his Learned Friend, who hash done more to support the cause of humanity and jus tice, than any thing that ever wa,s done by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel): and, with regard to him self, the proudeit part of his life was that of his flaw, in been a Member of the Education Committee.... With respect to the Fellows of Colleges refusing to disclose their Statutes, he had only to say, that Wherever there was. a disposition towards conceal ment and mystery, there was always something cor• ttps' and vicious lurking behind,(Hear.)—This was fite sorerbf practice pursued by the Members of the Universities ; and it was very differe :t from the con duct of the SoCiety of Friends, called Quakers ; for at the time the enquiry was going forward before the Committee, several of these persons came, and ex. pressed the strongest wish that the whole system of their Scholasticlnstitutions might be enquired into. ' The clause was then brought up, and having been read, iris added by Way of rider to the Bill. hgr. BROUGHAM then brought up a clause, ex ..ng the Commissioners from making a • Report. lOther House of Parliament, that drawn up for the ing in Counc a being deemed sufScient.—This clause 'Was agreed to. . ' Mr. BROUGHAM next proposed an Amendment to the body of• the• Bill, to rake away the exception in- the' Bill to visited Charities, and in doing so he said he would not retract a word he had said with respect 'to the abuses which existed in these institu tions.• The greater number of them arose from negligence alone ; but of a very large portion cul pable negligence would be found to be the cause, eyen amountingfri some cases to gross corruption. Iti - thenpirritin hAttad thus.'expressed he was supported 'by the .pretient.'.Laril Chancellor and. the late Lord Kenyon ;...apdbacked-asbe was by these great autho rities, he was disposed to anything rather than loWer his tone. Sir W. SCOTT objected to the amendment, prin .cipally on the ground that the visiters would be re duced to mere nominal officers. lie represented the evil consequences of any interference on the part. of .the Commissioners in such Institutions ; and intimat. ed that disputes Might arise between the parties, which might be most prejudicial to the Establish.. ment, tb protect which was the sole object of the Legislature. • Mr. SCARLETT confessed that he saw none of those evil consequences 'which had been so strongly enforced by the last speaker. It was'to be recollected that these Commissioners would make no new laws; their object would be simply to institute inquiries.— He put a case hypothetically : Where the Trustees had neglected to put in force the laws of the founder of the institution—was not this, he asked, a case which ought to be inquired into ? He really sow every reason to support the Amendment. Mr. BATHURST opposed the amendment. Mr. ELLICE strenuously Supported the amendment. The House then divided—For the original words of the Bill lOT—For. the Amendment 75—Majority 92. . . - _ - , . . • • . .... • 1 . . , .... . . . . . .. • , -.• .. . _ . . - • -1 , . - . that occasion, 46 manifestly to • • . • • • Persoludlitrespect towar ds the visitors of Pocklitrg- eons than on e rverl be ` ha ti cl i right emi . n sbut igtee • , dila the conduct of the e Committee Mr. Bronghatn) had gtveb. It disti o n re cti ? on • n e o n! oil, immaterial to his auraeter, ton §chool, though he couttpot be answerable fiir till!, he rep could not be &Urged #eitit . ureriareess in bringing Oil onsm* cestsutahre. — Re any ungracious questions diet' suit& live beep,' lima& he be said td irC-teltary,Plarlieleiri'AlM this discussion, here he did.so in the preens* el 41(3 was anxious, ee494 4 11, Mil akod thews - by the \limas'," of the coraiiitiet.— br his writings hii shevitat , datt• a age his duty to the public, to -sea the Learned Gentleasae., He maintained, that an aa- • d or had not been Re also vindicated hiniself &xis savers) (*kw imp- „ap! atgadc, nod j)..p: bis letliner 'brood thority had been exercised by theCommi . ..tee which.ti - e upon himself, whether lie p re are ~ .. ; 1 , hadthe tations , isn4 adverting to certain letters which ke,basl, that he was 4 for it -:-( r Asser.)-- house had- not contemplated - at the time it appointed, written on the measure bef r ore the House after e dis- Hp would not have been induced , o safthuli much that Committee ; and that the Committee bad greatly or waited to give effect to the solution of Parliament, he argued that h was corn- in the'absenee o f that but that (Mr Brougham exten d e d it s p owers . H e t h ee r ead over some, ,osed, till he had been rem i n d e d petent to him to have written - them without commit- had left the House), but that 'he was . justiged fro m parts of the evidence taken before the Committee ads at the close of the Session of hen do himself the ju s ti ce to de- ting any bre ac h o f th e const i tut i on , as i t was usua l, hi s l anguage an d hi s sarcas m s in Pu ttin g it i•t• relative to the state of the Universities, in which it sinfully and ope n ly s t ate d hi s ob- during a prorogationgation or dissolution 'of Parliament, the shape of a vindication of his Right Hon Friers 'slew that most improper questions had been put . for a digest of th e p rocee di ngs to b e g i v e n i n t h e in- (Mr. Peel.)--(Hear, hear.)--jt hit 4 also been taktiha • Os witnesses, with a direct view of imputing grON ire proposed upon that occasion ; termediate time, and unless this course were adopted a ground, th at nq o b servat i ons h a d been blade upon corruption to the Heads of Cellegis ; and he con- a . sf A ns .. nig" ,.. l i ie_h_i_d 2 . 6_ i , id_ t f_a_ult it would be impossible that the public business could the e Report of 1816, to which it would be only De- ceivird he b ad j ust right to get up and vindicate the _ yIICU, 4.1 M a• , .. ,, .• ...0 ••••••••-6 Ail 01.1JW1111..G ULlall 6G..ka AWP• p . .- ,4 2 .... ------ -- --. - r . . , who always voted differently Learned Gentleman had coiacjuded his ..- appeal to the fore in order' there being no new question before the 7 - - ' - WAYS AND MEANS. the House, while some of Hoare,. by lamenting his inability to meet the charge House since he last spoke. • . On the motion that the House resolve itself into a Committee !,t down among the neutral properly, as coming upon him by surprise, a 9 4 . inu- Mr. BROUGHAM was no w about to itibtlit aof Ways and Means. however, (Mr. D. Gilbert) roat i og at the same time that there was an iur of Motion; when - . -" ➢ • Air. CALVERT objected to going on with bushiest at this wto classify . Lor4 Castle • premeditation in his Right Hon. Wend, as if laying The SPEAKER informed him, that it could not tati2 ntr. ° 7l . B";‘.;; 9 l c l b* Ns k O ili bi the rep l erte rn d igi th g e i objection and c ini • the Exchequer, bW. E. 8., oz wa i t until th e f ag end o f il l . Saigon. Hcorevev, be received. The question before the House was, that particularly of the late hours at which fresh busties.v.:. brought 'Les, Sir Q. Clerk, Mr. Gooch, such a charge might have bean incidental to.thi die, the-B4.1), 1 ,4 's third time ? When that was dis- forward est nee lineocodoas: ~z , • .. me were ' some who neither cussion, it certainly, was not premeditated, so far as posed of, the Honourable ( Gentleman ( Mr i; Peel) The CH Oh NCE LLOIL 9( the 13CCANI*R. said this arose sr, and he therefore protested 'he (Mr. Fitzgerald), or the majority of his fries* would Wive full:opportunity of speaking if ant trout unavoidable drcivinalaicer 7 ' 7 ": .•• 't ter Mae Hoist dm* wielved *WM* Ilif Commo*Peoind a Re. Mr. Barclay . might vote, ,about him, were capable of judging. • The Hallam.; were preied. - • ' solution wad foe granting Xte,ooo,ooo of a Loan oat side_,_ and perhaps not, yet ~able acid 1: 444 r0e4 Geutlerran bAd VIA •said, that if • Mr. BROUGHAM : • isreposaillr tirlimal. the Shand ` list &lithe service of the l eir. Pie Member, Sir T. Adana. such charges were to be: made she nine was. that the Tiustnek , wipil. eameeietirlye UMW* , . VstkestioreadrisOthe Day weeedimpfted a; and tkiiiinise t ! mpporrto Ministers; thong!), by, when they 5h0414 haitheozkinefetted. To Ste: er‘. '.5 fth'ilt Vi:4o=Chitieello!'s notO stlbFettego4. . ie purest and conscientious 13e would answer , that there. wits Vot hitherto Ft eis- of the COX et .-•' . 0 Pr Oen i tenn icia . ...i.' Cra k .. ". • -' : • • nseemly in him to forget the port O o iq o f making a i t , an d t h at @ re was no ne t t .. r e m l,ati9r,tber.,,. . • . .rinjuricies'oximat 'emelt. .ww vilderstan. .ct Mat. a reward hat been ptivately dembet for &amber, whose suy foscgivins•nouce to the Members. of a COmmit- 'The ' r , :.. tlaill. thithairlit" '..." ''• .-. 'ONO tif OW itioe*ery oirthe Author of thrum tys been regulated by sound tee wheel a discussion was to take lop. upOs =4.a an. IO,OO ~ ' - . agate Oath siiiki. EliktegaiNfteVialied•" . Editdast or a Migs44-0 S s eel feeling,. 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