Star. — London, England, 1804-05-04 00:00:00

with Seim:hi:l arol the Faith of Berar, and for tlie v and energy with xhicit be had !seconded the Lord CRE N LE could not allow this vnte to pats; without T.:king the upportinity of expredieg tit.: ts arm intere! he f = elt in the thank. which were jidtly doe en his Nol,lc 1 7 .iend the Nlaiqiii; of 'Wellaey. The motion had hi:. fall antoliaticm, and he was extremely glad that it did not include the rondma of the N..1)1! Marq.,is with refpea to mea• Pure- ; not 'hat he had any doubt of the gratitude whi, it was jull'.y due to him for the if-rim:life bcnciit he had I•r.-ci:•ed to the Iltitith interefts ut India. bit bLeauie he did n. t that any part of his Noble Fi kind's cmidoß eppe it to be prejudged, rr that the Houle fhould be precluded from confiet.r.ng that pair ifs the suicition , en a future day. lii; Lordfhip thru p.onmince4 ae eloquent eulog;oni on the Noble Islarquis, as will as o n G o l eta ) Lak e , General Wellesley, &c. who, he under flood, sscre included in the other motions the Noble Lord intend ed to move. . Lord MULC.;RAVE alto exprefred his approl•a• lion of the rru:l;or.. The einories obtained by the i Pt hi& arm. in India, he obferved, were unparalleled in the hillor y of the world. None but military men, who had Len at.ual fervice, could be feLfible of all the merit of thole glorious atchievements, becaule none but them were capable of judging of the ditii culties which the Comman iers had to overcome. Lord MELVILLE fpoke warmly in praile of the meafures taken by the Marquis of Wellofley, for pi.iing.pertuancirt locurity to the Britifh Empire iu Alia. He obferved that the Public never 'could know how greet a debt of gratitude wag due to the Noble" M.trquis, becaufc it was impotlible they Mould ever learn all the obflacles and ditlicuhies that had been thrown in his way. He did not mean to apply this obfervati.m to his Majesty's The obllruflions to which he alluded proceededhom another quarter. Lord HAWINIESBURY feized the opportunity of adding his tribute e.fpraife to what had already been juftly bellowed on the Noble Marquis. With regard to what had fallen from the Noble Lord who had jog fat down, he was fenfible that the Noble Mar quis had experienced many difficulties 'M carrying his beneficial plar s into praeice. Thefe obltruaions pro ceeded from honed and well intentioned perfons, but whofe minds, it was to be regretted, were not capa ble of perceiving the great utility of the cornprehen five views of the Governor General. Lord CAMDEN and Lord LIMERICK joined in fupporting the motion, which paired neat. dij: Lord HOBART then, in Cep-trate motions, moved the thanks of their Lordfhips to Lord Clive, Gover nor of Madras; to Jonathan Duncan, Efq. Gover nor of Bombay ; to Generals Lake, S. John and Wadley, and to all the Officers and Privates of the repetitive Armies. All there motions were agreed to ans. w and were direeed to be tranfmitted to fir dia by Lord Chancellor.—Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. THY. BUDGET. Ude inateuraeics bating bees °Mewed In eur account of the CnanceLtoit of the klettettytes Speech on Opening t h e Budget on Monday laft; and it being important that the public Amid be rightly informed on a foiled of this nature, we arc Mtn to by before thew au accurate abOrtet of bit Gatemen: : He began by calling the attention of th• Commit itee to the fyllern which had been propofed ha year, And which had appeared to meet with the general approbation of the Houfe, namely, that of railing .t very large proportion of the fupplies for the pubic fervice within the year, by means of War This fyllem had not only been attended with the beneficial confoquences which had been particularly pointed out the time when it was adopted, but bad been prodative of other advantages of confider able importance. It had tended materially to !ellen the prefure which bad fallen upon the commerce of the country. in coniequence of the renewal of war, by preventing fo large a portion of the commercial gapital of the country as would otherwife have been neceffary, from being applied to the public fervice by way of loan. Some embarraffment had indeed been experienced, but he hoped it WAS nearly furmounted, and furmounted without any public interference or aelance. in a former inftance fuch affiance had been found neceffary, and had been wifely granted by the Legitlature, but the repeti•ion of fuch an in- terference in commercial tranfAnic,o,, was a pro ceeding fo et , otrar y to the true principles of untie, that it WAS In 0:12 ii;rlleil degree flu isfaetor y to find that it had Ilt,V) be.:o 3v, , i,led by the cx,rtion of the Skill, the et podl,, and lel . ..tn.:es of the commet In hiv flatement lafl year, having afrtmed t7ir the Blitilll proportion of the cr•-•ciices of the s t: might be taken at twenty-fix millions, he hat! «in• ceived that it a film of ten million: stele ti s war taxes, i:1 addithin to the of dinary revenues t the State, not m o te be provided by ss ay tif Loan; arid a, tile ant: : the Sinking 1 7 1;;11 exceed.Al that the •.: • . the public debt ssonlel be lather dithininted that, no creafed in the comic of the year. In order to infilie A net arnaal addition ten =dhotis, he had tlintir,ht it hi: ditty to prort•ii: lie had dated a, liksly tut ioshice lions and a Led—namely, eight toilit..o. tional CMlnms end Ezeile Duties, and r•ur and a half by a direa Tat on Prig:city. li, the p•oceestin—s whic•• h took place ir . the Hoot's. or C7.•rn • mons, A dirt was occalioncd, %%Inch lie Lad estimated A: :1110::t 1 ,OCj. canted he A flifiittl fi.in of a part of the exLife on wine, and by eati..i• exemptions ar.J ai: I...mews tot:oil...Led into If e on property. hie had noss. the I.,tt,!..elioit that the nt.t pti.Juce tit tt.c ac!Jaior.al Cnitiru, Excite, in die fit Ct half year of their the sth .4 Jahn sty, I!.td I to which fun; ad•ling the anunn of Oa: d., charge.l and outialtding on the sth of j rn tt 7.t • t h e t o t a l be nu hi:, than 4,3:4 .•; ,at • •• . - rate the yeAr:v produce would anp•unt t. , Bit as in ri.i. f Jr) the duty tti the 11. ck I : vine and malt %%is ineltidcd, and as a part t• !!•. r ote ;y o n fins rtat tutu &try rriTlit he C. :••111“,: L,:ml..te (.1 t, :r 1 .:tvc ,t It t:4l :v. ...;v forn:ra al L:1, ..‘,. C 61-r , ...04 ,cd r 11 VII 566.0 )3 .'.l.asu.cr (...: 0,1 and IrciAnd 3.1 1. 36f „rC..3 I Is.oo =s. L. 4" )t 4.711.632 Add for : per Civil I .! other Ch env' mt the Ora" belated d, n.:ating the - - 0,358 z WAYS ANL) Mk AI.:Z. Malt Duty - - - - . - 75' , cc ,, Duty on Pcnr.ons 0f5:: , , 8:c. - 2..,..0 ..:wit) Surplus, Ways and N:,.: ~ i Bc3 - - - 1,3:L,,x;. - - M'ar fasts, to Aril c 18os. CAtoms ur,l Excire - - - g 1e:."..V7-3 Pcoperty Tax - - 5. aro cxt Deduß, wanting to complete Crants,lB.); 763,-„s'a Additional War Taxes 14.4 40,CC0 I ,GC,.0,000 _ I t,440,e00 Surplus Confolidated Fuod, to Apra 5, . 5 ,000,a00 Lottery - - - - 2CO ,0 , 10 Vote of credit - • - 1,7a0,0n0 Loan - - - tn,con,noo £.36,ri0,cc0 He next called the attention of the Comixlittee to the importance of carrying on with the utmoft goer, the execution of a fyitem of which experience had demonitrated the prafticability and evinced the beneficial died:. For this purpcife,,he recommended an addition of one million per annum to the war taxes, which he propofed thould be railed by increaf• ing the Escife Duty on wine to the extent originally intended of twenty pounds per ton, taking however inineteen guineas only as more convenient for eaten , lation ; and this he obferved would give no pretence to the dealers for an increafe of the retail price, as he believed that it had been univerfally railed left year to an extent fully proportioned to the total duty. This would amount to about 200,0001., the remain ing 900,0001. he propofed to raife by another addi tion of tat per cent. on the confolidated Cuftoms, except thole on exports and tonnage. and on the articles of wine, tea, and cotton-wool. On the arti cle of raifins only, he thould propofe a double rate as a fubltitute for an augmentation of the duty on fweet!, which had dually accompanied an increafe of the wine duties. _ _ He next adverted to the Loan contrafted for the ferried of the prefent year. He Rated that he had that morning entered into a contras for a Loan of 14,50cip001. for the fervice of the United Kingdom, of which fum t 0,000,0001. was to be provided for by Great - Britain. The terms on which.he had engag ed were, to give for every tool. in money, lOW. 3 per cent reduced, and 821. 3 per cent confolidated annuities. Thofe terms might be confidered as fair and evenadvantagesons to the public, and at the fame time likely to prove profitable to the contraclors.— The rate of intereft would be 51. 9s. 3d. p..r cent. amounting to .54.6,0001. to which, adding the ance for management, and a Sinking Fund of i per cent. th e , total annual charge would be 736, 1 9 01 . This'charge he propofed to provide fur by a Clii folidation and fimplification of the Ramp duties, which were now extremely intricate and embarraf ling ; with Come additions to the prefent rates of du ty. The Stamp Duties might be divided into three principal branches : thofe on proceedings in Courts of Law ; thofe which were applicable to inftruments for the transfer and fecatity of property ; and thufe applicable to commercial tranfation. In the firit of chafe branches a confufion and intri cacy prevailed which often embarraired the 111. a fkilful praelitioners ; and in the fecond, a very un equal preffure was occafioned, by applying the rate of the duty, not to the value of the property (erred, but to the length of the instrument by which . it was conveyed. He hoped in the new arrangoo;nt to remove the obfcurity and d;diculties which 'had been found fo vexatious to the parties interefied, and to render the burden of taxation more equal, by ap plying to several other instruments the fame princi ples of progreiTive increase, according to the value of property, which had been int:cduced with great fuc cell. into the Probate Duty. After a Ihort recarlilation of his flatements, he again imprelfed upon the Committee the urllent ne• ceility of carrying the fyllem, which had been adopt ed, into the molt effeet. For this purpyle, lie hoped that the war taxes at their prefent amount, would be found t'tti:ittit ; for he could nut confider the immenfe eNpenditure rendered neceirary in the prefciit year, by t!:c c xtenfive preparations for defence, a 111:tlY to continue to an equal amount.— The funis v. tcd for Osdnanec, Volunteers, and Bar racks, in the prefent eer, exceeded the grants for the fame let vices in either of the two hut years cf the late war, by more than 4,g00,0001. cut account of the extraordinary amount of arm; ar,d provided for the Volunteer's, and of Cie numerous buildings carried on by the Burr Irk Depart.rier:, the whole of which had been prodded ii.r in the fimplies lately voted. Dedui!tiag this excels off :n millions and a half, which he cotifidered as orzai.ona!, Crum the amount of the Luau, it would apip...tr that an e.iric lent war edablilliment might be maintamed with a Loan of ethin.eing the war tixe, at ha Inure than their probable annual am-uitt. lit::. excn iappcifiag tide ex:raordin— y expeticee to he fucceeL!ed by others of equal extent, the addition of one million annually to the war t iseCardiag to the plan of the relent year, wnnl,i, in the cootie of about thr:e years, if the war lii.ti!d continue fo rail.: the amount of the public income to fuel an extctit, as to leave a turn to be provided for b) Loan, not ;;t cater than would be tornithed by the fund, from which pciiod it was es i'dein that the nation miy. ; lit pern:vere in the pronecation of the seat, Nal) a diminahing inflead of an iactcaiing debt. int.fe of In 7 !• On !Lie 11-.: • ;' THURSDAY, MAY 3. The Ilituce %ea , . rununend to ~.n the tie Sr. ARIR . R return. he R. Affatt picot by Conlweinit to IF • It With refpea to the Property Tax it wonhi be re .4:Alec:led, that it had been originally flared so the Houle as likely to produce (oar millions and a half, from which ell:mate a million was after wards deduacd, is confequence of the alterations which took 1-hoe in the Committee. It now appear e:l by the ace ital.: hid oiloo the table, that the net produce rsr the Propetty Tax s as calculated, by thoh: bell to litclte, at • i&oo,cool. ;lllow ;n.; for all the ab..tvments which had taken place.— ciimate v. as t,o-rneS upon a calculation, found• ed ran the let n., already received, that the gra:: produce will be al,out fix millions. From this grofs produce dedo,,noni arc allowed to the amount of :•..v1; and if, in the progrefs of the o'oi - trent, they thould turn out to be lefs than this allow ance, the net produce will proportionably exceed 4 ,n0... , ,07'c1. It was very IciAaElory to obferve, that this tar will be charged on a net annual revenue of individuals, to the amount of at leaf 420,000,0001., while the total on which the Income Tax WAS charg ed, did not e x ceed fic..,ooc,cool.—and that the in ert:tie of affelfments on Commercial Profits, kept pace with that - on Vifible Property ; as there were in lames in which the profits returned for the whole of conliderable tyiwns am o unted to roore than'dou 1' blc the returns to the Commercial Commillioners under the Income Tax. Tittle circumftances, he conlidered as warranting Lint in alrumiug, th..t the net annual produce of the prefent war t:txes would amount to betweeen z,opo,qc:',l. and 13,0c0,c001. But in the current ! year. on account of the delay whkh has taken place, in the coiled - doe' of the. property tax, it was probable that theft= due upon the all-eft - mem of the year 1803,1 together u tilt at leattone half of the affeliment fur the year would be paid into the Exchequer, mak.' ing the receipt from that tax within the year, ending the sth of Apt il, tBos, 7,0c0.00c1. intlead of only' ; and though be had been thought fan guine in ellimating the receipt of all the war taxes to the sth of April, 1804, at 4,500,0001. yet the whole deficiency had proved to be not more than about ^oo,cocl. although on that day not much more than 300,0001. had been received upon the pro- perty tax : and it was evident that if even a moderate proportion of that tax had been paid in, the eaimate w0u1 . 51 have been greatly exceeded ; and that in point of fae'l, on the day on which he was fpeaking, April the 3oth, little more than too,cool. remained to be made good. He:next Rated to the Committee that, notwithfland• ing the fyftem of war taxes could not be expelled to take full effe.f within the firft year, yet the addition aCtually made to the public debt in the year :805, amounted to uo more than 3,590,0901. 3 per Cent. Stock He next proceeded to obferve, that great apple henfions had been exprelred of the effed which the impofition of the war razes might have on the per manent revenue of the nation ; nor could fuch apple henfions be deemed wholly grouadlefs, efpecially when combined with the embarraffments occafioned to trade, by the continuance of a doubtful negotia , lion, and afterwards by the blockade the rivers of Germany, and by the other circumfiances attending the recommencement of the war. It was, however, with the utmost plxafure that he was able to (late, that thefe apprehenlions had not been realifed. By the accounts on the table, it appeared that the net produce of the permanent taxes trilling in 1792, was ' in the year ending the sth of January, 1803 (includ ing corn bountiesj t5,425,c001. in the year ending the sth of January, 1804, it had been 14,984.r.001. — But to this fum was to be added the amount of draw backs paid out of the revenue of the Cufloms for fugars exported in the preceding year (Inch draw backs not being payable till a certi4cate of the land ing of the goods has been received from the Britifit Conful at the port to which they are expo' ted) which occafioned the payment to exceed what would have been due upon the quantity aaually exported within the year, by 4.16,cx01. making together 1 5 , 4 00,0001. an amount nearly the fame as that of the preceding year. If instead of the old permanent revenue, exiling previous to the late war, he ihould enter into a corn parifon of the produce of the whole of the perma nent duties, the refult would be (kill mine favourable. The amount of all the permanent to in J inuary, 1533. Was 21409, - .,:cc , 1.; ;It JA I , rhi ~ 3c,676,0001. dedisaing, howt.ver, from both of thole toms the du ties of I 5.:`.2 and tet)3, which in the firil of rhofe years did not exits, or we , e not in I till collcaion ; the amount in the former year would Le aro and in the latter, inch.::;:.; the film aliove men. ri•o ed I t the diawfeeks on It ii.ts that he fluitild alto o'4, rye, that :it Ore : nil peiiiid the total amott - it I t:,: pern;:.11:::t , f Ct,lloms and I....•:cife ctn. w,t, 4 r %%W, at the latter it had inci,..lfed to ott (hue the Supply and Ways an .1 i , L.ths of tlic pt dent ye.tt. r.‘. - eir r) I 1,f;5,030 I ' C.JU v),143,Cc0 "n. 1.0 l) hr It- I ‘nd a 3 x,^\)o . 4, 4 4 , (,r~ .'ff!r Of C :rt Chu^ c of 0 1,1 . 1”E141...1 It p.:41 c ma i'._3L. I -) rAibtig 11,occ.orx.1. h 1 I . s:ht quer t 68°4; the pnixrpr I. 13:11; the 1 3 - ! b.r S . firm of v.. r , s.-1; the 11111itta •• I; 'I; A;.:rt,2 A 13111 ;th bt.l tga r bhnF ht. 111-; . , Sc :1.r% g Inf!• Irith Matt ru1...1n7 theirMt I tnrn Manut.t:tt,:,•. ! ht: Potter the lenylk IL: Ina 0rr.....it La.!! 1 .thtr PlitllK and Itr.va c Nlr KEKR pr. tutted a Petition I ..11 tle M.,no and Liaturn, it the I a 14r Ut I I In Infl I inen. K rl_rrcd to t,t -.: KOBE n , vnod fo•nn A Vcrelb-r w Iv .1. :t tiic motion o Mr. BANK F:4.1.•.0r Bill ern:tong • I Lr kepnrt w.. r. • •n 11...1 y ul eitl Kit a }kW.: au. C in Mr. Wlll3l' l l re)rt(T. g i ve rotit'e, that en Wednerday nett. Lc tri,ve 1.. m. I cant to briug a Bill hy the better Re3aLetwa P.:rith Worll.out,2s. Mr. DILLON pottpinod his motion relative to the exemptiu Roman Catholics trail pelnliti:s when (erring in this country. MR. FOX'S au - tile's. Mr. FOX noted to the Houfe, that Lt. fhevld portpone his mo tior•. relative to the Hanoverian Troops (which itorxl for to-nv.r- ,r — ow to hianday neat. He begged ieave at the fame time to men tiun, that he did not pltdge hirnfell that the prefent (jun:ion of would any longer opLi ate as a preve,:tice to his briaol2; ftg avr.l his intended motion on th it day. TOTF or THANKS. Lord CASTLEREAGH role, purfuant to notice, to call the attention of the Houle to the late brilliant foccefies of the Britifh Arms in India. The Hoitfe and the Country were already in pofreflion of the principal Nets acd derllils, and lure he was, that they would, with the utmult cheerfulnefs, accede to the nantion with which he Mould conclude. He fhould certainly with to feparate completely the military por tion of the tranfaaions from all referencg to civil policy or arrangements, and he earne Illy implored the Houle to avoid all dircuffion or allufion to the Lie Treaty. He begged alto to be qnderaooal as not giving any npinion on the propriety of the war, but that he fhluld fubmit to the confederation of the lioufe the general quantum of merit difplayed in leading •the army in the field to glory and renown. He then proceeded to (fate the provifion made by Lord Wellacy for the Defence of the Company's territories in India, which he had completely tecured, and after fending off a arong detachment to Ceylon, his Excellency brought into the field an army of 55,nsio ganive men. This, he contended, placed the military power of the Company in a very (inking point of view. There was another inftance of well. direa,:d precaution, which was, that this large force lhould be enabled to et at one and the fame time on the molt remote parts of the enemy's territory. On the North of the Mahratta's dominions, General Lake attacked ; on 'be South, General Arthur WelleOey ; in Guxerat, General Murray; and on the Well, General Harcourt. There officers abed promptly at once, which afforded a sery arong proof of the wifdom and forefight of the Marquis. But to thole who recollected that his Excellency had de ftroyed the power of the Houfe of Myforc, fuch deci lion and energy would not perhaps appear aftonifhing. One other remarkable circumltance was the !banners of the campaign, which did not laft more than three months, and produced the entire conqueft of Guzerat and the Dekan, and all the imprienTe track between the Jumna and the Ganges. Eight Itrong places had been taLn, four of by cfcaladc, but the operations of the army were not confined to liorrn and alfault ; four pitched battles !tad been fought, two by General Lake, and two by General Welletley. He then lilted the particulars of there engage. ments, wi i a have already been detailed in our Paper. His Lcrdasip dwelt at confider:able length on there piths, and in the courfe of his fpecch con-. gratulated the lit,t:fc nn the kiccelsful iffue of the military operations in India. Relpeiting the caufe of the war, he fhould Whin from any opinion until the official documents fbould arrive. The motion he inrended to make was, that t 4 thanks vf the Houk thouid be given to Marquis Welletley, Captain General of the troops in India, for the energy with • which the Duluth refource : in India had been applied in th,e late w tr againft SLindia'and t:,e Itajalfot Be. rar, and far the promptitude with which they 1124 been tiled, to which the Houle attributed tb; refult of the war, Ecc. Mr. FRANCIci laid, that in giving his opinion on this motion, be wilbed to divelt himielf of all partia lity. In his own former motion relative to the affair' of India, he bad cautioufly abilained from prejudg ing the cattle, or the policy 'or jialice of the war, in any manner that could devigate from the dharaifter of the Marquis of Wellefley. fhe Right Hon•Geotle• ' man had left that point to be afterwards determined. when proper information thould reach this country. He bad no oh;e,ftion to concur with the rpeaftare prc• poled, were he find t:ouvinced of the juftice and po licy of the war Welt, becatife lie felt all the gratitude which it was pollible to Lel upon fuch an occafion. There were other cooliderations involved in this einetlion, one of which whether thole valuable !ices had been loft with advant.ige or profit to the na ? pre fent ciuilt.un'was not, therefore, fit to he &leafed in the Iloufe, till they were in torined of every particular co.:necried with the war ire India. lioiv could the Haut arleiwardi condemn the war is India, though they might find reafon to Jo fo, after basing come to a Vote of Thanks tei thofe concerned in it It was iMparlille that they could hereafter lay they condemned the pace, policy, rte. I or r.eceility of the war. He therefore ohje.led id the iniriion. :is it led thus to an eYident ineonflf ti-r.ey. There was no merit to be attached to the cirevitinlar.ce of there being fo great a difparity of numbers. blame might rather be attaelied to the rat - 11nel, of the attempt ; becaufe if that attack had tailed, our army might have been totally dettroyed. 1 0 ‘., ot the c ointry forbad thole conquctly. The ChIANc.:ELLOR. of the EXCFIEQSER laid, Le thought th it failicii.rit information %sas al re idy belle the iioufc to juitify the vote of thanks propaled by the motion ; and therefore it met with enticehis concurrence. The favottra , .il: aie of the campaign was gi catly to he at:riblted tii the exer• !inn, of the Marq.llS r f V. - vileficy ; and although there sat itch a ditparity is pcirst of numbers, yet mua rriticed, that there was oil additional force of ten thoultud men colleaed, at hi, 7rcat iliilance reads. to Co opera!e with tha: army. Ile uni'..ritond the lion. Gemleman, who opriofed the motion, to fey, that c.irqueas were priihihited, as being incon fi'!rilt with the AEI if 17 9 4; ai:d lie unified the Iloide to iibfe: we, tli.tt ti• Act alluded to only laid, that the Coiveinnicnt r I kJ Crlgigc in 5 , at for the fake of con.;:ied•, but did not I -ohibit them, when we were engaged an vial from other coyly s , from retaining !c. he thought tiL propold was a very 1,1 indeed; and the more fo, becaufe it ank a p.rton 11 ha uas not aetially engag- Upoa the tame principle Par- :le tißmq: !lament misty hare thanked the Commander in 41 111.171 C 10. cvely viittory am at ruks bad ob• t.oned abroad. 1 t‘:th the fame prtsprietr b t I the Admit:l4y when Lord 1 and I..rJ St. Vita:cut feverally gained ..fiLie I.nd , J 11..5. I , was, :Inm-ever, alv.ays anal to cot tine a I'. 1C thanks 10 0101 e Mho v. ere inintedi %4S 110 W 13(111) ,, Jell 111 center the att Captaia c:z . 1...1...4 ter