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other legislative remedy. But would their Lordships, for such a solitary objection, resist the remedy which they had pledged themselves to afford to the unfor tunate debtor ? What was the frequent result of \ the law as it now stood ? Why the debtor was a rich man, and yet he fraudulently wronged his just creditor, by refusing payment, and going to prison ; and in the Rules of the King's Bench he often lived in affluence and luxury, till the poor creditor, for want of his money, was ruined, and came to a gaol. Let any man read the mass of oppression detailed in the Report of the Committee ; it was such that, when he asserted its existence, during the zeal. which had existed for 20 years in this cause, it was scarcely cre- HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 10. , dible, because the facts were so enormous and so abo- Gunies v. BLAilt. . • i minable, that they could scarcely be supposed to exist. Sir Samuel Romilly war (water heardon thepart Oast &fon- I Let any one read those facts deta iled, and he would dant in Frror, and Serjeatit Best i n re p t y . defy him to deny the necessity of some legislative pro- Upon the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, it was or- vision to remove them ; because, if he did, it would dered that judgment in the Court below be afilislocd, with one hundred S hip suo damn his character for ever. Without any disrespeit The Irish S Bill Was read the third time, and paged. to his Noble and Learned Friend (whose opinion he Sir Edward Knatchlall, Sir James Grabens, and others, from I should ever esteem, nor should a n y contention like e House of Commons, brought up the Innkeepers Rights BM, I the present d two private Bills; which were laid upon the table, and after- 'l ie must press the necessity of some m easure like the ever alter the high tegard he had for him ) , ar d s read the first time : and the Slave Tra de Felon y Bill was eturned by Sir Jame. Grahaaifand other Members, with the : present, and for that reason he would support the Amendments agreed to. ' Bill • and he did enjoin his Noble and Learned Friend Lore Clonctnry's Divorce Bill was, op the motion of the Earl I to ori-r them his advice and assistance, whereby the ;of LIMERICK, read a setond time. I B ill ' might be rendered more bene fi cial . The dirt i A witnessermined wa ermined on Loveden's Divorce Bill.--Xtirther /p ro ceedings on Tuesday. : and. rubbish of the present system must be removed, , Mr. Shipden, from the Commissioners of Dover Harbour, pre- otherwise no wholesome superstructure could be erect - , sentee the Account of Tonnage Duty, which was °rdefed to U° led in its place ; and he thought this t ill, thou g h not en the table. i ted what he wished. it to be, would produce that ha ppy The Custom Fees Bill was read a second time, and ecieunit for Mopday. effect. Far these reasons he opposed t he motion of INSOLVENT neurons' BILL. his Noble and Learned Friend. Upon the motion for the House to resolve itself The LORD CHANCELLOR was not intending into a Committee iipisn this bill, to support the motion, as he thought it was under- Lord, ELLENBOROUGH sa i d , he rose for the I stood the Bill should pass the Committee, and the i purpose of opposing this motion, because he was se- i objection to its principle might be taken in a future tisfied the bill was composed of such mischievous and stage. But indeed there were so many objectionable dangerous matter as would destroy the commercial parts in the Bill, and he perceived so much difficulty credit of the country. To the common retail dealers in amending them, that although he was not averse .r in trade this bill would be absolute destruction. The to its principle, yet he was atraid when it should creditor was entirely neglected in its provisions, and I have gone through the Committee, and should have i be was sure that House ought , in all its legislative l been re-committed ag ai n , it would not be that Bill acts, particularlyao attend to the honest and injured which would permit him to give it his support, in creditor. If this measure passed into a law, a debtor, crdcr that it might pass into a law.—The machinery ,' whatever might be his conduct, provided it were not was such as, in his opinion, could never operate ; and 'i an offence coming under the description of obtaining if it could, as it now stood, it was not likely to give goods by false - pretences, which was made, in some relief, without also doing injury. But he would re instances, a transportable offence, would have the commend to his Noble and Learned Friend to with power of claiming. the benefit, whereby he could "re- draw his motion, and having made his protest against main no longer to prison than six months. Was the p rinci p le, he might oppose it in a future stage. it reasonable that , debts generally contracted Lord ELLENBOROUGH had no objection to otherwise than criminally, should be s ub j ected to so withdeaw his motion, on the suggestion of his Noble small a degree of punishment ? In addressing him. and Learned Friend who had just sat down. But he i self to their Lordships as landholders, he would put must say that the bill was launched in that form which the case suppose they had a tenant under a lease, would render it utterly impassible for him to suggest and he were to injure the premises, hew down, and any amendments which could render it fit to pass into destroy a *family mansion, plough up an ancient pas- a law. The principle was one so concocted that he ture, and use means which rendered the whole estate i could not see how it could be altered therefore not to any effec th in tual sterile and barren ; in short, if he were to committo purpose. Their Lordships would k the' greatest extent all the acts of voluntary waste, him captious if he withdrew his attention from it al what would their Lordships think, when, by this Bill, together in the Committee. He would say, what he after they had proceeded against him, and obtained trusted would not be considered as flowing from wash any damages, he could surrender his eff ects, and after re• motives of disrespect, namely, that he should mining six months in prison, walk out of his gaol his hands of the proceeding. , and laugh at his creditor ? The Bill in its principle It was then ordered that the motion be withdrawn, WAS full of vicious objections, and he should therefore and the House went into a Committe did not e. oppose the motion for going into a Com mitt e e. • Earl STANHOPE said, he approve of the The Earl of MOIRA declared, such was his're- present Bill, though he approved of the principle on spect for the opinion of his Noble and Learned Friend which it was founded. The Noble Earl then sug ( Lord Ellenhorotigh), that he never rose in that gested several amendments to the Bill, particularly House to state his sentiments in opposition to such one altering the time of confinement. an opinion, but he felt that diffidence which made Lord REDESDALE opposed this, as being con him distrust his own judgment. But on a question trary to the general intention of the measure. •of this nature he had gained such experience from Earl STANHOPE observed, he should not divide turning his attention to it during a succession of years, the House, because it would inform the ppblic of 4 that he felt himself confident of having some clear their empty Benches.—(There were few Peers pre. knowledge on the subject. Could their Lordships sent.)—lndeed the House was but there was so thin hreate sh d ould not say th at there were not ev ils ce gnat magnitude, , press his Amend gefect in Iwhich this Bill went to remo ve ? No nian would ' the machinery of this 'Bill, and the ezpences were so • pretend to state, that the Noble and Learned Lord great that it appeared to him like an oyster when it rwho introduced the measure did not mean to have it was opened ; fbr the lawyer would eat the inside him. understood, this was a measure which might not re- I self, and one of the shells would be left for the debtor vire future amendment. The Bill was not that 1 and the other for the creditor.—(A laugh.)—The de _ which accorded with his own notions of what it ought fects of it were so great, that they appeared almost to be, but that would not prevent him from giving impossible to be mended; they reminded him of a it his firm support, for he wa s p ersuaded some ma- baker and Mr. Pope, when Mr. Pope said, " Got sure of this description wai absolutely due to the jus. mend me !" " A.h," said the baker, "he had better ;ice of our laws, and was confidently expected by the make half a dozen like me, than be at the trouble of people of this country. All provisions of a Legislative mending such a crooked thing as you."—(4 l aug h.) nature, when first made, to remove abuses or evils, The Noble Earl, after suggesting some other defects, were experiments, because at the time of framing a said, he should leave the Bill in the hands of the law it was impossible for human foresight to calculate Noble and Learned Lord, who might cook it as he all its consequences, or to anticipate all its collateral pleased, but if he did not admit some alterations, it bearings. Brat af er their entry on their Journals of would not be cooked at all to his taste. . the evils, the abominable and oppressive grievances, The Earl of MOIRA suggested the propriety of 'f f which had arisen out of the present practice, that avoiding debate, and for the present let it proceed House was pledged to introduce this, or a similar through the COmmittee. measure, for the purpose of removing such evils ; and 'Earl STANHOPE said there was one defect—it it they should abandon every mode of putting an end did not punish the parsons ; the parsons would by this to so much cruel oppression, their characters would Bill be freed from the confinement imposed upon * be covered with indelible disgrace in the eyes of the others. Said the Noble Earl, " the Noble and Lear ., country. The present system of eractice, he contend, ned Lord (the Lord Chancellor) suggests -till ers is ed, was a mass of rubbish and' of oppression, that no advantage for the lawyers : yes, there is—'s ought to be entirely removed ; the soil ought•to be' tithe oyster: removed from under it, before any superstructure of After a few observations from the LORD CHAN. i justice could be erected on its foundations; Indeed it cerzon_and Lord REDESDALE, the bill passed through was a system contrary to all, the general principles ' the Committee. of our law, that an individual should hive it in hie i Lord GRANTLEY intimated the di ffi culty of the • power, at his own will and caprice, to hold in prison, ' present bill passing into a law ; and as there was an ifor an unlimited time, one of his fellow-subjects.— ; expectation justly entertained by debtors, he recom- His Noble and Learned Friend had { ora l rtinly mis- mended the propriety of introducing a common In taken the object of the Committee ; e could solvent Debtors' Bill. assert, and assert,it without a possibility of contra- Lord REDESDALE said, it would depend how diction, that in that Committee the same regard was , the House disposed of the present bill; but lie could k eq ually extended to the creditor and the debtor. But assure the Noble Lord, there was not that difficulty r would his Noble and Learned Friend say, that it could of execution he apprehended ; and it would operate be any satisfaction to a creditor to hold the body of as a Bill of Insolvency, for most of its provisions his debtor incperpetual confinement ? The inconve- were exactly similar to those of the last Insolvent • awhich Debtors' Bill. Adjourned till Monday. .niences of this Act might and would be many, was the consequence ofiall legal measures, when first I HOUSE OF COMMONS. provided. But eve n if all the fanciful evils stated by ; The_ r. Liverpool Dock BiU was read a third time and passed. i nn lrvine presented • i ' f ' k his Noble and Learned Friend, should, contrary to papers, coptain ng accounts o the quasi t ty o f cotton wool imported for the last five years.—Ordered to ,'• 4 : i every probability, really occur, yet it was fair to turn k 1 ° our attention to t he other side ; for, let all the evils lie nn the table. The It!port of the Parish Apprentices' Bill was taken into fur ther consideration, read, and agreed to , and the hill ordered to be suggested by the unlimited f anc y of imagination he • , put,into one scale , and then lei all the oppr ession and ni d a third time on Monday next. cruelty . ? retained ol in the report b e p ut in e o ther , The Inland Coats Bill went through 4 Committee of the House, and the evils fancied by h is N oble and Learned Fr iend, nd the Report ordered to be received on Monday. 'taking them to be well founded, would be as a tea- The i ll i ive per Cent. Loan Bill went through a Committee of the wholelhe Sugar and an an d d or then in the balance. It had been said how this the Report was ordered " to be . de lt re D d u t t o i be ßi re u ad a third time on Monday. W ei a v t ed tb on rov i l o i n a da C y olumittee, Dill would apply in respect to a' tenant committing and waste upon an estate ; still that - was stating a par- The Bristol Port Bill was read a third time, and pa:sed. ticolar case ; and granting 'such a ease deserved a T h e Distillers from Sugar Indemnity Bill was fe,ad a second . _....,,,,_,..„ 4,.. /1". 1 , 1 , "fr. nar o id. crane time, arid ordered to he committed 9111 billilltaY• e----_ _ FOR SALE, BY AUCTION, it the Custom-House, Faversham, Kent. on Wednesday, tase 15th day if May.l3ll, at Eleven o'Cloc it, lo.the Forenoon, I'HE FOLLOWING GOODS, ; viz. 77 Gallons Spirits of Brandy • 2C Gallona Brandy, of legal Strength for Dealers • • - . For Private Use, • 37 Gallons Brandy—l 29 Ditto Geneva. S Anchors and 2 Wharps—t Cart-3 cwt. Cotton Wool of thereabouts Which may be viewed and tasted on the Morning of the day. if Sal .—A depoLit of 25 per cent. will he required. PARLIAIMENTART PROCEEDINGS. Mr. WHARTON obtained leave to bring Its i bill, to repeal so much of dos 14th and 25th of Ceo. 111. as relates to weaving Blue Threads In the salvages of jotton goods. Mr. DUNDAS gave notice that he should, upon Monday next, submit a motion respecting the Board of Controul ; which, upon being questioned by Sir louts Nawroar u to hs nature, lie said, related to the power possessed by the Board to restore officers to their rank In the service who had been tried by Courts Martial. The Irish Militia Families Provision 13111 was brought in, read a first time, and ordered to be read a ►econd time this day fort night, sod to he printed. The Irish Commercial Credit Bill was read a third time, and passed. The Irish Embreastement Bill was Reported, and the Bill or dered to be read a third time on Monday mat. Mr. M. A. TAYLOR postponed his minion as to suitors in the. Court of Chancery, agreeably, he said, to the wish of several Gentlemen, to Friday next. The motion u to the Exemption of Foreigners from the Pro perty Tax, which stood for this day, was po.poned to this day se'nnight. Sir JOHN NEWPORT postponed his rood= as to Irish Breweries, to Thursday next. coMMiTTIIII OF WAYS AND MEANS.--DISTILLERIES. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, agreeably to his notice of yesterday, submitted several Resolutions relative to the Countervailing Duties upon Spirits, and also one relative to an additional duty upon Wash or Wort made for the distillation of spi rits from Grain, which, he said, would produce a supply towards the service of the year to the amount of 8400,000. As the countervailing duties upon spi rits were unfair, in two parts of thrUnited Kingdom. as to the third part, the object of his resolutions would go to remedy the detect—but as there might be va rious contradictory opinions upon the proper mode of doing it, he should merely this day submit certain resolutions upon tbe subject, and propose that they should be taken into consideration upon some future day. For this purpose he should submit two plans, leaving it for future election which of the two should be adopted. He begged at the same time to state, that he should on Monday move for leave to bring in a Bill to prevent, for two months, the spirit inter couri e between Ireland and Great Britain. He then moved seven resolutions of the tendency be stated, but the only one intelligible to the gallery wale.- • " That towards raising the supply for the year, t►ere be Im posed an additional duty of 40. per gallon upon wort or wash made for spirits distilled from grain in England." Upon the subject of the countervailing duties, some conversation took place, in which Sir JouN NEWPORT, Colonel HUTCHINSON, Mr. FOSTER, and Mr. WESTERN, severally stated their sentiments. Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought that, in order to do away the difficulties that occurred as to drawbacks, there ought to be a Bill to make every person wh claimed drawbacks, chew that he paid as much duty as the drawbacks claimed amounted to. Colonel HUTCHINSON suggested, that there should be a Bill to enable the Scotch Distillers to warehouse Spirits in the same way as in Ireland. The several Resolutions being agreed to, upon the House resuming, the Report was ordered to be re ceived on Monday. . • The Highway Bill was committed, and progress being reported, it was ordered to be recommitted upon Wednesday next. Adjourned, at half past six o'clock, to Monday. _ - TUE EVENING STAR. LONDON. SATURDAY. MAY 11. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. Cont. tnoney 651 —for account, 614 i. 3 per Cent. Reduced i 444 4 per Cent. 790-5 per Cent. Nary NO. Eating. pr to Is. prem.—Bonds 19e 10s. prem. ADDRESS OF NAPOLEON TO THE MU- e CHANTS OF FRANCE. f A Gentleman, who left Bayonne a few days i age, has favoured us with a copy of the following most im portant Document, which has obtained an extensive I circulation on the Continent. It is the Reply of the ' French.Einperor to the Address presented by a be. 1 putation of Merchants on the Birth of the KING of 1 Roads. The Address itself must have been couched in the language of complaint, as will be evident from a perusal of the Emperor's reply, which embraces a great variety of topics, and may be regarded as a fresh Manifesto against England. It will excite much interest among Readers of all classes : " Gentlemen—The Decrees of Milan and Berlin are fundamental laws of my empire, with respect to neutral navigation; T regard the flag as an extension of territory—the power which suffers it to be violated cannot be considered as neutral. The fate of Ameri can commerce will be soon decided. I shall favour it, if the United States will conform themselves to ' • these Decrees ; in the contrary case, their ships shall c be driven from the ports of my Empire. 64 Commercial relations with England must cease. I tell you plainly, Gentlemen, that those merchants who have business to settle, and debts to recover in that country, ought to do so as soon as possible. I gave this advice on a former occasion to the mer chants of Antwerp, and they have profited by it. " I wish for peace, but not a patched one (fisix platree) : I wish for it most sincerely, and of such a nature as to afford me sufficient' guarantees ; for I shall never lose sight of Amiens, of St. Domingo, or of the losses which Comm .rce has experienced since the last declaration of w .r. I would not have con. eluded the peace of Tilsit—l would have gone on to Wilna, and even farther, had it not been for the pro. Imise made by the Emperor of Russia to bring about Ia peace between France and England. Before the ' union of Holland with France, I made fresh over. turn of pe.cce • ; but the English Minister would not even listen to them. 1 " The Continent shall remain shut against impor. tations from England ; and I shall continue armed capssu-pied, to enforce the execution of my decrees, and to resist the attempts of the English in the Baltic. Some fraud still exists, but it shall be entirely anni- MEXICO, FEB. to, 1811. hilated. -I know who are the encouragers of English To his Excellency Don Francisco Xavkr Veneta. atc: you (' commerce —those who think only of evading the Most Excellent Sir—The better to ac q uaint of the state of things, and of the ha ppy p ro g ress of) laws, and by a series of extravagant operations end the just cause, I inclose a copy of the (parte) report in bankruptcy ; but, if they succeed in securing them. which 1 have just received from the Commanding se l ves f rom my douaniers, my sword will reach them, Officer at Tepic, in which you will be informed of sooner or later, in three, four, five, or six months, and the arrestation in San Blas of the iebellious Merceido, then they will have no right to complain . and several of his accomplices. " I have an ear for the counting - houses o f m y Last night 100 cavalry under t he command of Don Lewis Quintana left this for Tepic ; and fa- the, merchants; I know that they loudly complain of my better success of what I communicated to your Ex- measures, and say that lam ill-advised. I do not cellency, I have made known to that Officer all that find fault with their opinions, because they are not has taken place at Tepic for his future government. placed in a situation in which they can see and calcu. Today at 12 o'clock I received dispat ches from 're pic, I ordered the battallion of Peuhla, after having late like me: those, however, who have lately anivad joined the cavalry of Quintana, to repair immediately from England, and who have witnessed the effects by forced marches to San Blas, ander the command which have begun to be produced by the interruption of Don Bernardo de Sales, to whom I have given of commerce with the Continent, cannot refrain from instructions. With him I have sent two of my Aids- it is ossible there may be good reason s de-Camp, ore to remain in Tepic , and the other to sayin that p g proceed to San Blas. I have given orders to the for my conduct, and that I shall ultim.:t4 attain my battalion of Tolusco, which is employed in dragging objects. " In the artillery, to repair immediate l y to San Bias, . my Empire the inland commerce has risen be. having sent oxen last night to finish dragging it. I it here to-morrow night. As . yond 14 milliards, and it is from th is that we ou g h; hope to be able to have soon as the army arrives, I will go to Tepic, to form to infer its resources and prosperity. I knower from that the government, establish confi dence, and to prevent . Bourdeiux, Hamburgh, and other ports suff any further disturbances. The political measures since I left Agnalulc.), asl the intent uption of maritime comm erce : the muoici. which have taken place pal regulations lately made by the E m p eror of Roan have already advised you, have had the best effects ki ll i . ',imaginal*. I caused the greatest part of the insur- winjure the manufacturers of Lyons : these are in. gents to desert, from the assurance I gave them of the dividual fosses, and I shall endeavour to make up for i pardon your Excellency will grant to all those who them ; but the exports for Russia, which did not ex. surrender themselves of their own accord. I sent them immediately to their homes and to their Lulli. ceed 29 millions or from on e to two per sent. on the total mass of circulation, cannot fett er or chan g e my lies, tranquillizing. their mind with re g ard to the rigour which the miscreants have made them believe general line of policy. will be exetcised by us. Our clemency to those who - "'Russln has paper money, so has Austria, and surrender themselves has been attended with the best consequences ; in short, every t hin g wears a good England is even encumbere d with it. France is the richest country in the world, her territorial resources aspect, and the expedition has been crowned with the g JOSE DE efts RUZ. ar e immense, and she has plenty of mone y . Ac• .greatest success. (Signed) In pursuance of superior orders from the Viceroy cording to an estimate which has been made, of this kiegdorn, intimated to the Generals of the upwards of a milliard enters France by contributions army, Don Felix Culleja, and Don Jose de la Cruz, of war. I have 200 millions in my private Treasury and from the common accord of the different Com at the Thuilleries. I receive 900 millions of imposi • manders in Guacialaxara , the Second Commandin g lions paid in crown pieces (ecus), of which a very Officer in that town, with the army under his corn- small - portion only flows from foreign comm erce. mind, began his march on the 28 th of Janu a ry , wards San Bias, in search of the rebellious Curate 46 I ,have been told that in con se q uence of some re. Meiceido, who with a corps of insurgents, and 14 n the Barranea. Indies. I sha ll cent experiments, France will be enabled to dispens e pieces of cannon, was encamp ed i with the sugar and indigo of the two From the dispatch of General Crux we know, that the encourage these branches of ind ustr y . Chemistry is enemy, on the 31st, took a position on an inaccessible eminence, a little higher up than the br id g e of Taray, I now making such rapid progre ss that it is probable where they had mounted two pieces of cannon, but that it will produce a revolution equally extraordi. being vigorously attacked, they retreated, having nary only made six discharges of cannon, but without • the discovery of the mariner's compass. any effect, and leaving behind them two brass in commercial relations, with that occasioned by guns. Our soldiers were obliged to transport i I must renounce the artillery on their shoulders to.the top of steep and time cosnmerce, nor colonies, but " I do not mean to say that I want neither mari• _lofty mountains, The General cannot but admire them for the present until England in her politics no their fortitude in enduring these fatigues, having been short of water, and obliged to sleep in the open air.. 14 dictate peace to her, If I inherited the throne of Lou The conduct of the inhabitants of Tepic, San Bias, \ turns to reasonable and just principles in which I co and other places, is not less deserving praise, as op- ' slaw, selika pears from the report of ton Francisco Valdes, cm. i • This must allude to o w ed M. Lim° e o, XV. and of Louis XVI. I should hate been compelled manding the San Islas Company of Regulars. t Ina been solemnly disavowed ia tke Moamar, as liaNBBl eillfiag ill the French Cab/Pet. ____—....amlll FROM THE MEXICAN GAZETTE. Fir A