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.-.~- T . .. I SELECT oh l: tl ib FRIENDS OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. AT a LEC e s AETan'sTIaNG, it , d o e u i diet o inviteostan was She Delegates, who have been appointed vern by the Catholics of Ire- 'WA, to present an Address to his Royal Highnt ss the PRINCE RIGEIIrY, to a Dimaer, to be given at the Freemasons Tavern, by the Friends of Riligitaus Liberty, on Saturday, the gth of luxe Wet. The following Noblemen and Gentlemen have consented to be Stewards on the occasion : Earl MOIRA, in the Chair. The Duke of Argyle Sam. Whitbread, Esq. M P. Marquis of Tuns tick Rt. Hon. R. B. sheridan, M.P. Marquis of Downshire ----- G. Ponsonby, M.P. Earl of Ormond --- H. Grattan, M.P. ..--- Stauhope -- M. Fitzgerald, M.P. ..--.--- Besborough Hon. J. Butler, M.P. ...--- Gratiard -- W. Lamb, M.P. .--- Lbndaff -- J. Mead, M.P. .---- Donpughmore -- F. Prattle, M.?. .------ Fitzwilliatn, General M Mathew, M P. e--- Darnley ---- C. Hutchinson, M.P. Lord Dunally H. Parnell, E<q. M P. Stanley Major-Gen. Ferguson, M.P. ---- O,eulstone David Latouche, Esq. M.P. --- G. Cavendish, M.P. W. Tighe, Esq M.P. .---- H. Fitzgerald, M.P. W. Smith, Esq. M P. .-- A. Hamilton, M.P. P. Moore, Esq. M.P. -- Milton G. Byrip, Esq. M.P. Sir Thos. Millar, M.P. J. Latouch•-, Esq. M.P. Lieut. Gen. Sir John Doyle Thos. Creevey, Esq. M.P. • Sir John Newport, MY. Tickets to be had at the liar of the Frtemasons' Tavern, price One Guinea, Wine included.—ln order to ascertain the number to be provided for (which is not to exceed 430) no Ticket can be delivered after tor tith of June. t 7 Dinner on Table Half-put Six precisely. PORTSEA ISLAND WATER WORKS. NOTICE is hereby given, that a General Assem bly of the Proprktors of the said Works will be held at the Old Town-Hall, In the town of Portsmouth, the Sth day of June next, at Eleven o'Clock la the Forenoon, in conformity with the directions of the Act of Parliament, when the attend ance of each Subscriber is reqaested. ROGER CALLAWAY, Portsmouth, Mal 23, I A I t. Chief Clerk and Secretary. " now" do stavid part of the motion, when the House div ided.—Con tents, 12 ; Not-contents, 4 ; Majority, 8. The Bill was accordingly read the second time. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' BILL. Lord REDESDALE moved, That the Report on this Bill be received.—At the same time, his Lord ship stated, that he proposed the insertion of a clause as an a mendment, as to p.irsons, by which the assig nees might have the sequestration of the profits of the living. Earl STANHOI'E considered the Bill as ex tremely objectionable, so much so as would tend to injure the principle of such a measure, to which he was a particular friend. The Earl of MOI RA admitted that the Bill did not meet his ideas completely on this subject. But it was to be expected that no measure could be with out defects, and at first, perhaps, none could be de vised without being found practically inconvenient. —Still future improvements might be made, and he .should give his vote that the Bill be engrossed. The LORD CHANCELLOR, in this state of the House, would not press for a division, but on the third reading, he should certainly vote against the measure. Lord REDESDALE observed, the House mig'►t dispose of the Bill as they thought proper; it I ad oc cupied much of his attention and his labour. He meant also to have introduced other Bills, if this should be adopted, for the benefit of the creditor. The Report was received with Lord REDVIDA LE'S I Amendment k andordered to be engrossed.—Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. A Message from the Lords signified their assent to the Portu gal Treaty Bill, the Foreign Linen Bill, the Quarantine Bill,the Lunatic Marriage Bill, and some other public and private Bdls. Mr. WHARTON brought In a Bill for repealing the Custenis Duties on Raw Hides and Hair from Ireland, which v.as read a first time, and ordered to be• read a second time to-morrow. • The Verdigris Dill was read a first time, and ordered for a se cond reading to-inon ow. The Hat Duty Repeal Bill was also read a first time. The adjourned debate on the Irish Tobacco Duty Bill was re surned—the amendments agreed to, and the third reading ordered for Thursday. The Report on the Charitable Donations BM was received and agreed to. To be recommitted to-morrow. The Irish Drainage Bill went through a Committee, the Re porkof which was ord,ered to be received to-morrow. Sir EDWARD KNATCHBULL brought up the Report of the Shoreham Road Committee, and moved, " That the Row lutions thereof be read and Agreetl tu." Mr. SWAN moved, as an amendment, " That this Report be taken into further considers inn on 'iliursday oe'nnight." After some discussion, in which Sir Robert Peek, Ms. Ken rick, Mr. Peter Moore, Mr. Western, Mr. W. Adams, Mr. Cal craft, Mr. Fuller, and Mr. G. Vansittarr, took a part, strangers were ordered to withdraw, and upon oar return, we understood that the Report was agreed to, and we found th e House discuss ing as to when the third reading of the bill should take place. Upon the mutton that the bill be read a third time on Friday nest, the House divided, when there appeared—ln favour of the third reading an that day, 55 ; Against il,2s—Majoriry, 30. Mr. SWAN gave ponce, that lie would to-morrow move, that the Minutes of the Shoreham Road Committee should be printed.' 1 he Loan Bill, the Nova Scotia Rum Bill, and the East India Bonds Bill, were severally read a third time and passed. The Porter Colorring Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. Mr. TAYLOR postponed his motion as to the Suitors in Chan- I ! eery, and the appellant jurisdiction of the House of Lords, from this day to Wednesday se'nnight ; and at the same time moved, " That the Report of the Committee appointed to search the Lords' Journals upon this subject be pnined."—Ordered. TUE DULL OF YOltK. Lord MILTON intimated his intention, at an early day, of submitting to the House a Motion on the subject of the Reappointment of his Royal High ness the Duke of York, to the Office of Commander in-Chief. He could net immediately fix on the day, but mentioned Thursday next, or Thursday week, as' the business of the H2Ottitt might permit. • ' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wished to know from the Noble Lord, what was the nature of his intended Motion ? Lord MILTON replied, that his intention was, in the first place, to move that an Address should be presented to his Royal Highness the Prince Regent, to know by whom he had been advised to reinstate the Duke of York its the chief command of the army. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER returned his acknc a iedgments to the Noble Lord, for hi* polite acquiescence ivith his request. BOARD OF CONTROUL. Mr. LUSHINGTON brought up the Report of the Bill for Raising the Salaries of the Board of Con-' trout, &c. &c. ' Mr. CREEVEY said there were several objections, he could make to the Bill, but should confine him- 1 self to one, that was the raising of the salaries of the. President and the Commissioners; they had now five', thousand pounds per annum, two thousand the Pre.' sident, and two Commissioners at fifteen hundred pounds each. This Board was only for swearing Gentlemen before they could be eligible to fill cer tain situations. He had no objection to raise the sa laries of the clerks under them ; he would therefore submit to the House an amendment, that five thousand pounds per annum be granted, so that an ad dition may be made to the salaries of the clerks." The President and Commissioners to remain as they were. Lord CAS'I'LEREAGH supported the Bill, say. ing, that when he held the sitivation of President of the Board of Controul, he found it highly necessary for xn advance of salary, and saw the necessity of it in every departmeet of that Ate. When he resigned that situation he recommended the East India Com- 1 poly to raise the salaries, particularly the President's, to enable him to support with credit the dignity and honour of so exalted a situation. -Mr. ROBERT DUNDAS.—He should not be tempted, from what had fallen front the Right Hon. Gentleman, (Mr. Creevey) to withdraw his inten tions; he had said before, and would again say, if there was a necessity for an advance of salary in any office, it was the Board of Controul. Mr. CA LC RAFT.—The Right Honourable Gen tleman ( Mr. R. Dundas) is not only speaking for himself but for all those under him. There might, perhaps, be a necessity for raising the salaries of the Board of Controul ; he thought this a very improper time to bring it f4,rward, It was judicious to grant an advanced,rilary to the Right Honourable Gen tleman. If they were of an opinion to think of those under him, he should not give it his sanction, and was determined never to consent to the increase of any, till the demands of those who were fighting their I country's cause were complied `with— to Officers in the Army and Navy. Mr. ADAMS.—It might be requisite instead of Commissioners *have a President and a Vice Presi dent, as those Commissioners perhaps were °lily sine- Mr. W A LLACE.—The Right Honourable Gen tleman (M'r. R. Dundas) had stated the necessity of the increase, and what the•dury of the office was on a former night, and he (Mr. Wallace) was very well convinced he would not have brought it forward en his own account. Mr. LUSHINGTON and the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER spoke briefly in favour of the I measure. _ General TA RLETON did not wish to refuse any class of men a fair remuneration for the services they might perform ; but he thought, that if the plea aris ing from the necessities of the State were admitted with regard to an increase of pay to the army, it would; a fortiori, apply to the claims of any other description of persons, however unimportant the na ture of their services might be. They assuredly could net surpass in importance those by which our gallant soldiery were every day adding to their own glory and the debt dirt them by their country. But was there really a necessity for this wretched parsimony, either towards them or towards others ? if so, could any thing be deduced from the Budget opened the ether night by the Chancellor of the Exchequer with so much exultation, and no doubt with keen hopes entertained, if not expressed, of public favour ? Could any thing, he repeated, be thence inferred with respect to the flourishing state of our finances? If our finances were really flourishing, assuredly we should not in the midst of abundance grudge a slender , addition to the comforts of those by whose toils and perils all our comforts were secured. An Hon. Gentleman who had spoken after him in a former de bate on this question, had sought to cast a stig ma on him, as having reasoned in favour of his pro fessional brethren more in the spirit of a stock-broker than an officer. No doubt the Officers of the Army daily prized the glory which the Hon. Gentleman had pointed out, as their appropriate reward (and true it was that it was now more than ever within their reach); but the Hon. Gentleman would do well to recollect, that those officers could feel privations AS well as other men ; they might seek " the bubble reputation even at the cannon's mouth," but when obtained they could not live upon it. He should con sider that they must be aware how much the high in centive by which they were impelled entitled them to the admiration and gratitude of their fellow-citizens, and how bitterly they must feel when they perceived that, ever prodigal of their blood, their sole boon con sisted of barren thanks, while they were suffered to drag on an existence on a pittance not surpassed in amount by the earnings of the veriest drudges in the community. Perhaps, indeed, the Hon. Gentleman might deem it impolitic to render that existence less se vere on the principle of its becoming more valuable to its possessor, as in the case of the soldier mentioned by the Romansatyrist. He wassure that such an argument would be in perfect unison with the whole tenor of the Hun. Gentleman's reasoning; but he trusted there was II spirit of another description prevalent among the peo ple, and that the loud expression of their generous indignation would ere long procure that poor reward for their defenders to which they were so justly enti i tied. Were it granted, there would be still no want of room for the operation of those high excitements Ito which the Honourable Gentleman was so fond of ! trusting ; there was no more demanded than would just obviate a ludicrous contrast between those same high excitements and the mean appearance to which, :in the event of its being withheld much longer, the rapid rise on the necessaries of life must soon reduce ! them. After all, Officers were men, they could not be fed altogether on glory ; and a poet, who perhaps could appreciate high excitements as well as the Ho nourable Gentleman himself, had not scrupled to de scribe valour not as a purely moral qualit3, but in some degree resulting from .4 Generous wine and food!" Shame on the men—shame on the assembly—shame on the country that would, in the spirit of a half starved miser, hazard the want of their being felt! The question being then put as to the amendment, a division took place, when there appeared—Fur it 19 —Against it 65—M ijrnity 44. rum CUSTOMS. Mr. WHARTON brought up the Report on the Irish Customs Bill ; the amendments on which were agreed to, and the third reading moved by Mr. Fos ter for to-morrow. Sir JOHN NEWPORT pressed for further time, in order to give an opportunity of hearing the senti ments of the mercantile part of Ireland. He therefore moved, as an amendment, to substitute Friday for to.morrow. Mr. FOSTER could not agne to this delay, as he intended the operation of the Bill to commence from the Ist of June, and this would prolong it beyond that period. Mr. HUTCHINSON condemned the hurry with which Irish subjects were disposed of. In other cases delays were acceded to, but no time would be given to hear the opinion of the Irish people. Mr. FOSTER said, he pressed nothing beyond the common custom of the House in regard to Money Bills. Mr. PONSONBY observed, that it was impossible for Gentlemen from Ireland to bar front their con stituents before the Ist of June, when this measure was to take effect, and on that ground condemned its , precipitancy. Mr. Wynne, Mr. Foster, Mr. Dundas, Sir john Newport, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, then interchanged a few words, and the third reading of the Bill was ultimately fixed for Thursday next. INTERCHANGE OP MILITIAS. Mr. RYDER moved the order of the day for the House going into a Committee on the Militia inter change Bill. On the question that the Speaker do leave the Chair, Colonel STANLEY wished, in consequence of a meeting of Colonels of Militia, and Lords Lieutenants of Counties, held this day, and their having appointed a Committee to wait on the Chancellor of the Exche quer to-morrow, that some delay might be ranted, to afford them an opportunity of urging their objec tions to the bill. Mr. TIGHE, though he approved of the principle of the bill, yet as he understood it was considered to be objectionable in Ireland, also wished for delay.— He alluded to the necessity there was for introducing a clause, to secure the Irish Catholic, when he came to this country, in the free exercise of his religion, ansl to exempt him from penalties under unrepealed sta tutes, as was done with regard to foreign Catholic should have places Mr worship appropriated for Mt use ; and concluded by moving, as an Amendment, to afford an opportunity of hearing from Ireland.that instead of the word 4 , now" the wurds 44 Seventh of Jane" should be substituted. Sir J. NEWPOirr followed on the same side, acid stated that, according to mike, A CAtilltlie Meeting was to-morrow to he held in Dirblin. to c , ns , der o the propriety of petitioning on the subject el anoint the Catholics the free exercise of their repo . L; this measure, as was said, was intended to promote union, let it not be made the subject of controversy. By the Ist of Geo. I. chap. IS. it was rende re d peva ) to carry arms without taking the oath or supremacy, and he could not see reason why a doubt on this tub. ject should be suffered to remain on the mind of any one, when a single explicit clause ia this bill woi.Rd do it away. Mr. GRATTAN was of the s same opinion, and read part of a letter from the Titular Areibishop at Tuam, to the effect, that the Irish Catholics would oppose the measure, unless the free exercise of their religion was secured to them by law. This should, he said, be a matter of right, and not dependent. on the will of any officer. The'introduction of a chum to the effect would promote recruiting in Ireland, and was beside the least objectionable and most statesman like mode of acting. It would also prevent the meetings projected in various parts, and he should therefore prefer having such a clause moved on the Report, though in the mean time he should vote for 1 the delay. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ex pected another conclusion from the Right Hon. Gen tleman, than that contained in his last words.— He could see nn cause for delay, as the House were already sufficiently in possession of the object of any petitions that might be presented, and might as well consider that point now as hereafter. The free exercise of their religion was the object the Ca tholics had in view, and it appeared at once, that they most enjoy that under the present Bill, or it would be one law compelling to the breach of an other. All that could be wished was the same free dom to attend to public worship in England, as they enjoyed in Ireland, and it was clear that they would have all they requested by this law, which virtually repealed all former Acts on the same subject.— But if any doubt remained, it would at once be re moved by looking at the clause, which ordained that the Militias of England, Scotland and Ireland, should enjoy all the same privileges and exemptions on their removal, to which they were entitled in their own countries respectively— ( Hear.) " With re. pect to attendance on divine worship, the same or der from the Commander in Chief would be issued here, as that on which they were contented to rest in Ireland. lie concluded by objecting 'Li, delay as unnecessary, as any future consider-anon might have its full weight in other stages, or on a recommittal of the Bill, if that was requisite. Mr. HUTCHINSON thought the good sense of the Right Hhn. Gentleman always deserted him oa Irish subjects. He had proceeded in his whole state. ment on the erroneous grounds, that the Irish Cabo, Tics were satisfied with their situation in Ireland, which Ma: not the fact; on the contrary, their l owans,s had been violated, and they wished to be better so cured in England, than to rest on the mere order of any Commanding Officer. They did not wish an Act that none but the. learned could understand, but an Act, the meaning of which would be obvious to the ignorant. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER denied that he had argued on the ground, that the Catholics were contented, but that they would be in the same situation in England as in Ireland. General TARLETON expressed his admiration of the policy of the measure in a military view. He spoke highly of the Irish Militia, than whom he never saw better troops in his life. As for the hardship of going to Ireland, it did not appear to him to be a great one. The passage was short, and the country fine and hospitable, with excellent sporting, shooting, and hshing. (A laugh.) Sir W. WY NNE did not think the measure expo silent, and would vote for delay. Mr. RYDER opposed delay as ungrounded, and to satisfy the Catholics, read the °plaint of the Attorney and Solicitor-General, that the Catholics vus#l, in England, be entitled to the same privileges as in Ireland, under the 33d of Geo. 111. and to all exemptions contained in the 10th section of the same Act, any Act to the contrary 'notwithstanding. He also had authority from the Duke of York to state, that a similar order to that under which they enjoyed their public worship in Ireland, would be issued in this country. Sit JOHN IVOPORT and Sir W. WYNNE explained. Mr. W. ELLIOT said, if Gentlemen opposite nouid not adopt the clause, they might advise the Regent to frame an Article of War, that would be satisfactory. Lord PALMERSTON supported the Bill. Mr. PONSONBY doubted that evit Mr. Fox, hay• ing the subject completely before him, had withdrawn such a clause as that now proposed—if he had, he would doubt the accuracy ems ot. Mr. Foes judg ment. He rose, however, not so much to speak to the question, as to notice, that an Honourable Friend of his would submit a motion on this point sin the report, when they would have an opportunity of dis cussing it. Mr. HERBERT said he would vote for any clause that would render the Catholic Rights clear and es pack,. but, in the mean time, would not suffer that to I induce him to vote against so excellent a measure. Mr. TIGHE explained, and after a few words from Lord George Cavendish, the original question was put and agreed to without a division.—The House then went into a Committee on this Bill. Mr. Secretary RYDER said, that in consequence of the objections made against the want of a clause, relative to the exercise of religious rites, he had rn.ide an alteration which was inserted before the WOI J. 44 exemption," the words " civil, military , rel i g ious," and made the Irish Militia subject to the same tales and regulations as now in force—(llear!). After some further discussion on the different clauses, in which the CHAT CJILLOR of the EXCHIQUVer Mr. HULBERT, Mr. GRATTAN, Mr. HUTCHINSON , Colonel Duceerr, General TatetaroN, and Sir Joini7 Nyman., took a part, the House resumed, and the Pr FRENCH PAPERS. PARIS. MAY 16. The King of Spain arrived this day at Ram bouillet. He went in person to the Emperor to con gratulate him on the birth of the King of Rome. He left Rarnbouillet at six in the evening to repair to the' Luxembourg Palace. The small-pox being prevalent at Paris, the Court Physicians have thought proper t o have the King of Rome vaccinated. His health is imam best state. But the Emperor has thought proper to fix the ceremony of his baptist - for the 9th of Juni". Lrnsa FROM HIS *CURVY TO TIM BISHOP% " St. Cloud, April IS. µMy lArd Siehop of the most illustrious and popnlour churches in the Impire are vacant—one of the contracting par ties of the Concordat has rejected it. The conduet adopted in Germany for ten years has almost destroyed Episcopacy in that part et the Christian world. There are now but eight Bishops ; a great number of diocese. ere Warted by vicars apostolic ; the Chapters have been disturbed la *Or right to provide, during.' the vacancy of the See, for the admialatratios of the dicv9ie.— They have plotted dark manceuvres to excite discord and se.lition among our subjects. The Chapters have rejected the brieh, con trary to their rights and the holy Canons. " Yet time is passing away—new Bishoprics are vacant every. day. If no speedy provision he made, Episcopacy will be extinct In France and Italy, as well as in Germany. Wishing to prevent a state of affairs so contrary to the good of religion, the principles of the Gallican Church, and the interests of the)atate, we have resolved to unite on the tOth of next June, in the church of Notre Dame, at Paris, all the Bishops of France and Italy in a national Council." PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 27. PERICILLIW PEERAGE. The SOLICITeII.GiNtRAL adduced further restimoney before the Committee of Privileges, on behalf of the younger son. Mrs Heineman and tier daughter, Lord Berkeley's Butler, and Sir Isaac Heard, were examined as witnesses.—The Committee ad. jeurned about six o'clock till ten o'clock on Friday. After prayers, strangers were excluded a considerable time, during which their Lordships further proceeded to notiCe the b re ach of privilege referred to la the Earl of LA up ERDAL& on a former evening, and which respected some proceedings of an out door Committee of their Lordships on Local Bills.—The parties implicated were, we understand, brought to the Bar, and-repri. Mended by or& rof the House. • While the exclusion continued, several public Bills were brought up from the Commons, sod read a test time. The Irish Peerage and Butlerage Bill, and the Canada Rum Bill, passed through Committers, and were reported without any amendment. lite one and a half million Exchequer Bills Bill, the six mil lions Exchequer Bills Bill, and the Customs Officers Superannua tion Bill, were read the first time. ROMAN CATROI.IOI. Upon our re-admission, we found the Marquis of DOWN SHIRE stating, that he presented, in behalf of a Noble Friend (Earl of Doneughmore) a Petition Irons the Catholics of Ireland, whose cause lie advocated, from that knowledge of their charac ter which he hadosegulred by residence and connexion among them. In the absence of his Noble Friend, he should move— That the Petition be read.—Ordered. I he Noble Marquis, alter moving that the Petition do He on the tae, text moved—That the same be taken into considera tion o n the 7th ef June, and that the Lords be summoned for that day.—Ordered. GREY'S ESTATE BILL. Lard REDESDALE iave notice, that he would, upon the reel port as this Bill being brought up, move that the Lords be sumo maned. There was a particular clause to which he intended to mil the attention of the House; and if he should find that the , Report would be brought up on Friday, he would to-morrow Move that, the Lords be summoned for that day. GRAND JUNCTION CANAL BILL. Upon the second reading of thi. Bill, Lord REDESDALE strongly objected to the prin..l ciple, and also to the mode of its introduction. The l title was a false description of its provisions, and it thus took the House by surprise, for their Lordships would, upon examiliation, find &is to be a Water works sill. The Noble and Learned Lr•rd expressed his disapprobatioo of the clauses severally; and moved as an antendment, That the same be read this day six months. The Earl of MOIRA shortly vindicated the con struction of the Bill. The title and objectionable Clauses might easily be amended in the Committee ; but he felt himself bound to urge the strongest op. position to the amendment proposed. The LORD CHANCELLOR concurred in the observations of his Noble and Learned Friend ; but such was the state of the atmosphere in that House, when any Bill was presented from the Grand Junc tion Company, he had little hope that his Noble and Learned Friend would succeed in that or any l ahamotiolsieSentst the increasing monopoly of that Convent. h . Atte,"War -O* fro= Earls STAWBOPS