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J setter, which tiered -• The cessity which . . Siete Mts.— -Klllltteritcms er. Stmt. St A sTsua flee* ' his. Attest weft heard as Counsel ter the App W. &Ad adjoureett tin Manday. limn* situ. Th4l l Order of the Day for She Commitment of the 11 1 1 Utiny lidi being read. Lord WALUTIONADI took tAdchait. The Preamble being postponed. , The Duke of Noßrot.t expressed his ',wislitti' know ir there were ant alterations intrntkt:to *thildritiny Bill ffir the preieht y ear ; ilia' . it ; Prerutit.ird'm former pus t - . 1 that rai.l of LIVZRPOOL expJaineel-gmerant.i there Were 'some kW altvratiesits *wisdom& in ' the Bill mid& eonsidetratimfl blipttoy weft oft 4 *lt ielkettunt . niture t __- With the i* cirlogrOlf - th Viler,: siveti'tlitpurts Martial • itrishluspexi *w puniih-, went's* be inflicted on del4iwelts.• •The Court, by die new proviiian: will have ihst option to substitute , Imprisonropm-forthe-mode7 cif. .•Corporal punishment hitherto F anelli' , adopted; ii they shall deem meet orOteflidnr. '• - 1 . •"' • ••• f . ' ' ' • .. . to Earl of RADPOR fab it incumbent en him - iiihniit for thiLlid'opt;ou orthitVoltirdittee, 'as pro in the Dill by way of Amendment, two proposi . • he•first, his Lordship in a ln* tone bf voice en to relitero Os* poivertliff tl* - Jtidge Advocate, illpeCi to instittifhig* prOsediitions. It sbmilld tie recollected that this 91ficer was the Counsel and 161P-tbsiviser of the Court, situations which his Lord tor 0041004 to arrue were incompatible pr with his pre - .....,.„......, ...i... , ....Sat I Gare,..l. 0.0 iIISCCUti:I, ... pritlOkblelgarre propoSitinn appeared to be, • lit 4400_114ittie there *Wild be no private prose - titatatApet.' ' other than the Judge Advo ' -` , l institotethe prosecution. the proposition lush considers- iinportant alteration ad•fits• which no in- , arisen. He era* not , , decided opinion as it, it should be • in question was in its decisions had alluded, sien•had .. ous person (t. _Chief of the P ... __.:_ - =ed by the Noisitteri, .. . . ai t i t iti- ii. to, and such, idea that 'period: •ha ' Ole Villain practice in the • arm TO hisett '• ' thereforkof the nature proposelby the 'flak Earl, w.eakl to call in clout:Wake intehtion'ag4.sincetity with which such orderi had been issued, and give, aece to an insinuation and an inference thatl sucl.. orders had not been duly atteudelto and esetin.l ted:, Than such an hisinnition or inference, nothing kould be more unfounded. Government his; ever.. since the issuing of these orders, been vigiliintlr ob.. 'servant of their doe and tusiform execution, and dim 'eircurnstances, at least one of them, alluded to by dip Noble - Earl, had no reference to the present case, arid' was not occasioned by a wish or attempt to enjoin , any particular place or mode of worship I but was the punishment usually inflicted upon a man who, on the march from the parade should be found out of the ' ranks. Such was the case and the punishment refer.. red - to by the Noble Earl ; and it assist be obvious to their Lordships that it was not in print. The Noble i t Earl concluded with repeating the observatiens, that it was neither the disposition nor the intention df Go. vernment to depart from the spirit or the practice in. which the orders of the Commander .in Chief had kr reference to this point been first issued, and since uni.- girmly acted tipon. The Marqois of LANSDOWNE acknowledged such to be the disposition and the practice of Govern ment both here and in Ireland, but still be did not see the fairness of the Noble Secretary's argutnent, that, by admitting dt clause, that disposi tionli would be called into . ht. Sue; he could not conesive n" 'to be th e fla a legislative declaration such as that proposedLaois Noble Friend. On the contrary, the object of such declarations was not to give rise to, but to remove doubts, if any such hap pened to exist. He felt how very important was the point now under discussion. Their LOrdsliipswobld not forget that the part of the United Kingdom to which it chiefly referred had long beet: roost productive for the recruiting service, and promised to be still more,, and the demands for that service were more likeiy to increase than dithinish. Of WhitimpOrtauce there-. fore was it not that no impediment or discourage. ment should exist in a part of the United . ghtpdom so resourceful, in . this respect, to the success dew military means ? If any doubt diould'ezistin sb de. , licate a point as that of eonicience as 'tip Modes' - . faith and worship, should not every 'care and_kteesirien be used to remove, .I=4'4 is ta - r.• could th ey he *rot:, 4iiefftially refused than by enabling the te tiuitiug Serjeant to refer to the present bill, tog Ro hn out the particular clause in it, which guaranteed col every man the free exercise of that , faith and worship ' to which his judgment and conscience gave the pre ference ? In this view of the queition. he thought 1 the clause moved by his Noble Friend, was just, ex pedient, and politic; and it should therefore have his hearty concurrence. , Earl srthzcEi; could not but consider the clause as unnecessary. He happened to have been in a si tuation which enabled h,n os know that the Orders issued at that time by the Commander in Chief had been strictly attended to ; and that they hid since been executed with equal strictness and attention. As I lung therefore as they were punctually executed, he was not aware of the necessity of any legislative mea sure in this respect ; but as he approved of the prin ciple of the clause, so would he be ready to support it any time when he should see a fair necessity for its adoption. Earl STANHOPE briefly replied. The Noble Lord exulted in having brought forward a clause, the principle of which no Noble Lord bad been hardy enough to question, and to have gained this point was to him matter of great triumph, and would be felt 'as suth by all honest, impartial, and reflecting men.— That consideration aline was fully sufficient to in duce to persevere in his motien. The Committee then divided on Earl Stanhope's Amendment : Contents 11—Non-contents 22--Majority against 'l. the Amendment 11. The remaining - clause: of the bill, after a few words . from the Earl Of Rossr.ire and Lord KING, were then agreed to by the Counittee, and the bill war after: wards reported without any amendment. . Their Lordships then resolved into a Committee on the Marine Mutiny Bill, when The Earl of-LIVERPOOL rose, and observsd that as some degree of doubt seemed to prevail with respect to the application of the Martial Law to the Royal Marines serving on shore m foreign parts, he thought it belt to-temove•all shadow of doubt by an express provision in the present Bill for the purpose. With respect to Marines serving on shore, in the do- Iminions of hie Majesty, the law was clearly expressed in the present as hi former Dills, but it was ovident , 1 - ''very 'useful ieldieri may be ettliderkl on ritbrej, Failiegi es in foreign parts, as e'er eel the cue (6 a erserigetable amount in Portugal. Hs thereinto •as an amendment, that after she word . 114 37ut0ti1," Steil& be ' inserted 44 or in fottiget parts." This meeting the concurrence of their Lord. i ships, k was ordered accordingly • and the Retook ' of the Bin was ordered to be received ; ea Isinothip, 1 — • Tee stimiirt's 1141 MAGS• ' ' The Marquis of LANSDOWNE . said, as he dui the 'Whin Earl ia his place, lie should then mention ) $ circumstance, respectiug which he 'doubted not but Noble Lords opposite would honchoed to acconitnts date. On Mimcliy heti their Lordships stood sue. s moned for the eensideration 'of an 'Address to ht i.Royal Highness the Prince Regent; on the mess* of his late Message respecting the defence of Port* gal. This was a discussion at which he was desks*: of being present ; but it happened that on that veil day he was engaged, as he believed was the case with' some other Nolole Lords, to attend a Meeting ~ insti. tuted for charitable purposer.—(The meeting, we be lieve, of the Benevolent Society of Saint Patrick.)—• He therefosi bad to request that the discussion allud. -led to should be postponed from Monday to same ethal. day in she ensuing weeks powers vested . manner. 'No in repeat, found to arise from ehe ' .-- . .. . prisieicsk: I'M-Noblc Earl adverted in terms of ap prolanion us the offiCial conduct of the present Judge d_tft 10, antlyspressed his opinion it would be pre. fors,.W Out the'Nolile Earropposite should not press past an Ansendintist in the present instance, but suf. fey* tsi.lie-over for discussion to a future opportunity.' Thitivl ef fI.ADNOR then, after ixxprreetains his "IbigketY Atm n , 1, -brought 1 • ' . Si Siena tileetneition,! which iefaria t o die titiii for instituting tilithoinitiass Tel "idritiiiis within the purview o f t he ipit A ia Wltteh lie-thought should be limited to Some sarior*eir : rarlihr. of &kyle; theinoirVal, accord. Vel'tho dietance of -chi place fectth 'fioriti'swherr e .t„, ,, • . tiVere Cartimltieg,ineh IS 'easel 0c,,--a - file g i n toilifkoe - 4ost 'cif the cepa . Of corit !lope i east Of Onaliation,itnos in quartos nearer h ome . .. .:•,•: • l!issitt coOvereklixt` arriss - the table took place .... tins thiailrolperiition, between his Lordship and of I.Avittkoot, and Roott.ios The result - ' l4- ..1, upon the suggestion of. the Noble Secretary aftitite4 it was also agreed to be withdrawn for the _ r eam', and again brought brward, if deemed ad :`ilable, at the third reading of the Bill, Orsome future **twirl. • !_. ... . anwil eATWILIC SOLDIERS& ' Earl STANHOPE rose to propose a separate gime -to the Bill, of the justice, policy, and propriety -Of which, be was confident that every Noble Lord .mutt be 'sensible. The clause which be should have %the honour of moving would go to rescue a very nu .,. lestroui class of men from the most despotic tyranny, ...die most desperate 'oPpression which was ever at- .tempted to be exercised over human beings. • Their 1 ;,ordships must be aware of certain circumstances •eellich, from their recent occurrence, it was woneces. • jjary for him to state, which should make the adop. *ion of the clause he had in view, not only expedient, -but absolutely necessary. Their Lordships must bear in mind, that nearly the half of the British navy and army }seas composed of Dissenters from the Establish ed Church,- that these Dissenters amounted in num ber to four or five millions of persons, if not more; ilgaluthat•the,House must be sensible of the serious satisolosnoes that might ensue from any severe 1 • unjustmeksnre that should a f f ect so large a class the eominonity. He would not now repeat the MrPresilons and distinctions made use of in discus /tofu of dais:topic by the Noble Secretary of• State— . was his wish and intention to'keep clear.of every *tint irritating ancresasperating. It should in his rum le opinion, also be the .wish and study of Mi gisters ttrebstain from all ustasures of an irritating tool ointsperating 3:atom and it was with a view to ttlford themiti - oppertnitity of manifesting such a din. . jposliliim , that he iisaahlrnive the clause, he had pre - ,as. eandd their Lordship . s - pereeiwyntir thing lows cruelly !ran**, more mstOtirOeVressil i ks 1114 that a latr this of men, the Roman i zetholier, tOr Instance, or any ether iacription of 'Dissenters, should lot impelled to adopt a mode of worship of i which tbsysSitwor approve, or bs-rventbd• Or bun limed frids-parniing •that4bich their codsciettee and soovietionlarresented to them as the best; yet such taetiratrellee vii T ed.• Ana here 'he could net but eitO7tlig:st halmiratile letter a - Lordllarringtiv en this eithfeit, *164 . shared that Noble Earl to be as goAest AG he was an honourable msn; ant! which to ! q - need suth a Tivactite. Vkilfrritivistilsi ! ' . teho were Protestahts, say; feel; and ' Al of a regulation; by which they were-compelled • I lium,' mato, mad join in a Worship which they , were to confide as idolatrous ? If their thoughts g at ?feelings Wootd justly be indignak,at the idea of ii such a cottpuhion, must they net confess that the minds 9f the Catholics, under similar.circumstances, . w o uld, with equal justice, revolt at the idea of such. an attempt at oppression? They would no doubt i • recollect that the essence 'of justice was to tiO as we. wished to be dealt by, and they would act. on the ,principle of that fair recollection. He did not - see - upon what jest grounds any Noble Lord could object to' lah clause; but if it were objected to, he should taketbeienie of the Committee upon it. The Noble :Earl concluded with moving a clause to the follow jug elect--u That ao Roam Catholic or ether die itt the ordinary es: 1 under their respective 'visions of the Act of had been formed ; • completely correct ' hitisseif that the very material, and ;in another year...- al proceed as briefly t heads, stating gene of charge, and efionld . any further irdor. nation the subjects _light be required by the Committee. And first, with respeet to the ordinary Estimates of the Navy. These wete divided into three heads—The first included the salary and expen ilium of the Admiralty and N.tval apartment, the dock-yards, the commissions of out-posts iQ fpreign I rleattions,thiwages and victualling of seamen, and die repairing of ships in ordinary, and civil charges of the Victualling peparttnent. 'The second head included the half-pay of Officers of the Navy and Marines, to teCher with military pensions and allowances, as kinguished *from civil. The third head included the antlerannuations and pensions of the different Civil Officers in the Navy, whether in the dock-yards or elsewhere. With respect to the first head, the total expence of the salaries of the Admiralty and Navy Office was, for the present year, 01713,520. Las: year it was £174,081, making an increase in the pre sent estimate of £2,438. This increase upon- the whole of the estimate (for in several of the items there was a considerable saving), vets attributable to the salaries of the First Lord of the Admiralty, of the Treasurer of the Navy, &C s which had formerly been charged on the fund proceediag from the sale of old stores, being now Introduced into the estimates ; and to some additions to the salaries of several of the Clerks in the various Offices, who hail served for a long period. The total charge for the dock-yards was £188,006. Last year it had been £181,732. so that there was an increase in the present estim.e..- of £6,224, which was to be ascribed to nn ,rumen. tation in the number of watchmen erardens who had the custody of the differ:at; public works, and to other circumstances. The charge in the present estimates for Cotentissioners and Officers of Out- Posts and Feroitg*Stations, was £47,935. Last year it had ',eh £t1e,133. There was an increase there for: cf £9,532, which was caused by the salaries of several of the Officers at Bombay, &c. being for the L first time included in the estimates. The charge for o , e wages and victualling of seamen for the ships in or. dinary, was nearly the same as last year ; but in the estimate of repairs,' &c. there was an excess of £44,670, Which *as acconated for by the necessity of completing some works at Deptford, Portsmouth, and Plymouth. The estimates for the present year for the civil charge cf the Victualiing Department was £111,163 ; last .ear it had been 4 7 131,395.—i There was a saving in this estimate of 020,23 i. He now came to the second head of the Ordinaries, namely, the Half-pay Military Pensions, &c. The Estimates for the Half pay of tie present year was £270,(X)0 ; last year it had been €250,000. There was therefore an augmentation of 010,000, owing to a greater number of racers being unemployed at the present period. In the estimate of Military Pensions, &c. there was an excess over the similar estineite of List year, amounting to £4,422, arising from a great number of small items, chiefly pensions greeted to Wounded officers, to the widows and children of i.ffi cers, &c. The third and last head of the ordinaries was the superannuation: of,pensions to the civil offi cers of the Navy. In the estimate for the present year would be bound a vast number of items not in cluded in the estimates of former years, and compre !lending a 'liege proportion ot those charges which had hitherto been defrayed out of the fund arising from the sale of old stores. The apparent excess was necessarily considerable. The estimate of 1810 had been 023,683, the present estimate was £42,822 ; so that there was an increase of £19,139.-So much for the Ordinary Estimates of the Navy, which altoge ther amounted to £1,578,413. He would then pro ceed to the Extraordinaries, consisting of the expences in the King's Ya-ds, of the repairing and building of ships in Merchants' Yards, and of various works in different yards. By a difference of arrangement its Abe form of the estimate, it would be found, that in the charge for the King's Yards, although the items were ot the same description as those in the estimates of Lust year, there was a decrease of £55,660, not withstanding in the item of Milliard there was an ex cess of £5,418. In the estimates, however, of build ing and iepairing in merchants' yards, and of works in the dock-yards, there was a very great increase, owing to the necessity of completing several ships which had for some time been seasoning—to the works which were carrying an at Sheerness—and to the proposed Wet Dock • at Malta, which last item alone was £lO,OOO. The increase in these estimates of building and repairing in merchants' yards. and of works in the dock-yards, was £208,193. The total of the extraordineries of the Navy amounted, for the present year, to £2,646,200. In 1810, the total het been k 1,84.1,000 ; the increase, therefore-1805, 9 W —The next estimate to which he should direct the. attention of the committee, was that for Victualling the Army at Oittporta and Foreign Stations. That estimate for last year had been £854,314 t for the present year it was £1,113,394. There was an in ' crew, therefore, of £259,580, w hi c h w•. Attr;biltelble to the large force employed abroad.—'l he only re maining subject of consideration was the 'Transpoct Set vice. The estimate of the present year tier t, 111 ; service very much exceeded that of 181 0 . This re cess arose from two causes—the fire-, the great aug mentation of prisoners of war, and true necessity Of provid•ng proper means for their security and main tenance; the second, the increase which had tekeo place in the salaries anctcontingencies of the Trans port Office. The estimates for the present 3eer wets as fellow : For Transports ForSlek and Wended For. Maws of War And foe Salaries, Stationary, &t. --., other day 'nee of Noblieltirris.'ln this view he'stlibught Thom dio isorilifloconeligible day: ' . ThrEarl Of LAUDERDALE took the opportu nltylo put a 'question to Ministers upon spirant aohich , isesthotight it would be importaOt Noble Lords should be Orate of. The Message mentioned some propossd foodseeassistartee ; the worth were s' to continue the same support to the Portuguese Government for the present year, and to affoid such further assistance," '‘ Ike. He hoped the Noble Earl would have no objec- the titan to state what further additional sum it was pro- gethei posed to require ? ' tinguislo The Earl of LIVERPOOL answe red, he had not soperannu., the least objection to afford the s'ble Lord the infor- Officers in t.. oration he desired. TheieLordships would be aware elsewhere. IN, that the amount could not be regularly stated in the expence of the sa. Ifirst instance, as such was -ndt agreeable to the forms O ffi ce was, for the lor usages of that House. The proposition with respect year it was sCl74,oflt Ito the sum requisite must originate in another place. sent estimate of L'2,43.. [The sum which it was intended to propose on the whole of the estimate (fort, ~ present occasion was in the whole two millions (so was a considerable saving), we understood his Lordship) ; which would coasts- salaries of the First Lord of tr, tote an additional million, and also make up the deft= chTrar easur deron of the the Nundavy, &c. which h f piig ciency of eighty thousand pounds , in t hat voted last ge old stores, being now introduced into , year. After a few words interchange d between Lord and to some additions to the salaries r o Holland and the Noble Secretary of State, across the the Clerks in the various Offices, who had s table, the Order for taking the Prince Regent's Mes. a long period. The total charge for the dt.c sage into consideration on Monday, was discharged, was i:188,006. Last vear it had been IEIBI, and renewed for Thursday next. so that there was an increase in the present estims . ., in ' DILL. of £6,224. which was to be ascribed to an . o t r sCOTCII CREDITORS ,-.. Upon the motion of the Earl of LAUDERDALE, the Order tation in the number of watchmen . ..I,:eie ors ' for going into a Committee on this Wawa , diasheread, and lied had the custody of the differ...art pot-'• for Monday. to other circumstances. Il l e -' REVEROONARY , GRANTS. estimates fur Coro f oio:- . On the motion of Lord GROSVENOR, the order for the se- Posts and Forc.;or. rend mood,: of the Reversionary Orates Bill was postponed from - • Monday most u ntil Monday s e'ntdekt.-Adjournett till Itioutiai. it had for: elf Leo TIOUSE OF COMMONS. ~_ •s Mr. IRVING, the lospectot-General of hat t er " • ph.*rated an et:Count of the quantity of barley Great ;Piths from foreign ports, and from ire.,; __, _ _ • year..—Orstered to be printed. • Several other ptiblic documents were presented, but the inau dible Mender l wWth they *tiered by the Clerk, rendered it inipoteible4oe cis to COUeCt their sendeney. On tge main" of hi r. FOSTER, au Estimate was ordwed to Wald beetled firiur, of*, Eimer, if the4atioui ~ - ;`,0 ' 1. 1 1 841 A. elatitler lb • Mr: , ellyillnokl until ibOree'! . .% - is motion respect- flag tree • ~,u „ , . hisl4,W,est Intlitse. 4Ard 4 . . 4 i . r.41.53 0 ;i0r Tuesday his motion for an Ac- Salo°, l et in ',..__." ... gleam 4* by the.Attornry-Gerwrai. r • `''Onorrr:oes - drekd Orders of yeiterday Mere then disposed n of Its follehtt ' E , 11.-Oduriattee en Rest Luba Albite en Menflay. & Ti! ascend reading of the Irish and Engliskllesching BM for w; No dif Wittiest. The sectind reading of the Irish Stage Coach dill for Monday. a 1 'Tbfisifireed reading of the Expiring Laws Bier; the EugavDraw- pre beets Bill, and, the Southern Whale Fiibery BIN: together with , &c. die report of the Dubeis Wide•etreet Bai, and the Committee on last the bash Sdgar Bill, this day, after the other public business. • 'Mr. SHAW gave notice, that on Tuesday he wiled move fur nun love to bring in a Bill to extend to behind the Embezaiemeut woo Act, for protecting Masters against Servants. cers, The Navy Estimates, presented a few evenings ago, by Mr. was i R. Waite,. were referred to the Committee of Supply. Mr. LUSHING'IDN brought up the ItepOrt of the Exchequer cers e Bills Funding Ell.—The Resolution was agreed to. year 1 Mr. AUSTIN brought up the Accounts relative to the Cha- d u d e( rides of Ireland, which had beets movid for.early in the evening. hend i n CoMMITIRE 01 SUPPLY. had hit Oa the Order of the Day being read that the Holm sh'huld re solve itself into a Conatuittee,to consider the Supplies to be granted from tl tiolita Majesty, . necessai Mr. WYNNE rose and 'believed, that he deemed it of impor- o ceo C. tease to the order obierved in the House, that tleverious Notices th.'tt. thet &e. should come on in the seder iii which they were arranged.' the Ordi He could not see any propriety in making the EsSimetes of supply precede the reading of the Bribery 11111 i nor could he conceive ther ama the right which any Member had to pull one Notice over the teed to tl head of another, which had the right of precedency. Re g ulations in t h e Ki t were lately made on the precedence of Notices and Motions, and ships ik certainly the present Order was violating those rules. Mr.. YORKE replied, that the reading of the Bribery Bill was different y set so pressing, nor of such importance to the ration as the Esti- • the form o mates of Supply. He thought, therefore, that the urgency of the the charge lane' required the precedence. were of die 'Mr. WYNNE said he Only objected to it as a violation of the R u les, not as a point of expediency. of last year, The SPEAKER said the Honourable Gentleman Mr. Wynne, withstanding had remarked origin on the Rules of the House; and since the eels of £5,4 Hon•Gestleman, Mr. Yorke, Pte. deemed the Estimates is Supply • mg mid r the dock epa Nub o f such urgency, he ad net tell bow to decide. He wouldleave Rte. the House. in -) After a short conversation, between the Chancellor of the Ex. Owing to the elseipter, Mr. Mimeo, the Speaker, Lord Foikstone, and Mr. which had to Dundas, the Order of the Day for the Committee on Supplies to works which s his Maj esty was order/310 be read. the proposed I The q uestion•was then put from the Chair, and the House tvv solved into a Committee accordingly. alone was RIO NAVY ESTIMATRS. of building and Mr. YORKE rose for the purpose of moving the larks in the do necessary Resolutions for defraying the • expences of of the extraordit those naval grants, known by the name of the Ordi- present year, to manes and Extraordioaries of the Navy ; the wear and, been £1,844,000 teir, including the number of seamen with the atten- —The next estin dant expences, all the miscellaneous grants, &c. having attention of the c. been already voted. In addition to-she Ordinaries the Army at Olt , olnd'Esoraorffinaries, he should hate the honour to estimate for last propose a vote for the Transport service. It would I present year it sat hay* beets nnneetssaty for him to intrude longer on crease, therefore, o, atetounnittee at present had it not been fora differ- to the large force once in the fortis of the Estimates of the present year. maining subject of He would state the principle on Which that change of . Set vice. The estin fisOm proceeded; and particularly as it applied to the service very much e. iVrthteary Estimates. The drank 'rid beep. in con- cers arose from two aPlesnce of an Act of last Session, by which a great, mentation of prison ouch in his opinion, an excellent alteration bad been providng proper me. prescribed. Heretofore it had been customary to state tesance j the second, In the various ordinary estimates the ;barges for pen. place in the salaries a. nin • and superannuations under each head, the conse- port Office. The esti, peaces of which werea difficulty and confusion in dio.l as - follow ; , covering the total of that hooch of expenditure. Not I For Transports - only he the form been confused,' but many items had been omitted, and theestimateshed thereforenotifford.l ad the fell information whichwas desirable. There w ai l . , - another circumstance also to which he wished to drawl the attention of the Cornittee. Several charges for ; mates, he Making a Twit of it 406091? --Having thus gone the the whole of tire esti: soperannuation. &c. haditeretofore been defrayed out i of the iptid created 4 the sale of old awes. 11 ... y rec the t.i any d in si t t s dtiolawtn, might epr b e s e s iag consideredhi s read a i s n ob ess . Act of last Session it had beets very jediciously Ai eel, that lreceforward all sums raised be the sale of old stores should be tannin. to account, and that the was £1,678,413 ; but as this account must be cratii . - charges wh i c h ig h a d haw elistoostr/ so doing Mit ted with the sum wising from the &Ili: of old stores. inne4 into: for the last 5e2,15,,E6 4 531,46 1 : 124,334 !SASS '411,111=1. 1 1 0 "1" 0 " 0 5 111.4..."1".11 " ..1 . 111" ' PAAL1,0111 4 7774Ar P IttuC ESDINGS. • iitOun OF LORDS, MARCH IS. "Nor, that sobs ititrann other than the eile'shotrld4ssitisce!!esti. ed to instituteth Ilettrlf of LIVET:POOL thrsu4ght t of the Nntsle Marl one that rettnireakim tion, as oewdiitrg to introduce an impori in a Intik eitablished tystem; and 41..1ti ennveniohci aOpea*.sl tcs time arisen. Pre t tre4 at the moment to giva a decii e, proposition. in considering it, berm hi Mind that though the Officer dijelsisiatv of the Court, he had no vote Sesitici•biSdervirad exercised the pov thetit in the most unexceptionable ma cossianiest:e, he repeated, was found to .1111.111101101111111.111111.1.1.14- _ r. be compelled to ittbinii a einde et *al d :ge ail of LtligitPOOL eltptetlibei his *Aiwa 'of that WU, should be iiittbduoed if iprollsigratittind 1 he did not . approor. or be pareen ,of • every accommodation to Noble tonic is his rirnates, and distinctly 'hiked model 1 front fellowinz that of Which he did* . „ WWith suspect to the occasionkliaded to by heads, With a view to the provisic to Earl of LIVERrOOL did not Jai*. 411.140b1fMarquis, he believed, that if hia Noblei last hessian, the present estimates h If of the clause, or'theptopriity of the iambs ia , skid ' f. who presented and proposed Ale cos-, and, altliougligy migl.t not be cc h the Noble Earl Wouldirewe it introducliaiu tbe ' ' ' of the Message (the Marquii Wellesley), io all their parts, he yet flattered Previous to the letter to which the Noble ' 11 *fiat the moment beeiraware of the day which Ile errors were not very ntimerous nor v alluded, and as Tar hack as 11102, the strictest tw- piii posed for its consideration; he would have then 'that they might be wholly avoided ii had been issued by_ Ake authority of -tito-41ustri- 4* sons* ether. (..if ma.) , Though the cottsidgra.-; Having said thus much , he would person (the Duke ff . yet) thew CoomMister la tine of the subj e ct in !petition was'ohe ihatwould not ' as he could through the different he 1 of the Forces, thin Do CompOlsion' a talliwhttwit mewadMi of rritich delay, yet he was willing to postpone rally.the increase or diminution of el 'yenned by the Nolibitiel, should hi loyeireebe' it other day in the week, to ilia- the eottveni- ' then hold himself ready to afford . w_.!. r. .1..,...,,.. hip rtiottoht Thurs. oration on the subjecto that might t 'Sill. fa I k d ii 'lu ii ~J