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PAR 14,WhATART PROCEtsVINGS. HOW OF LORDS, WEDNESDAY, JAN. U. I orris F.gresnont avid .landveleh took the oaths and their feats. Ti.e Annual indemnity Bill was brought from the Commons, and read a Sr* time. Lord WALSINGHAM prefented a petition from Sir Watkin Lcwes prsying for an order to the Marihal of the Ki-g's '•ench to permit his attendance to•nibftow .heir Lorttllttre HIT, to bear the proceeding, in an Appeal, in which the Petitioner was interefted. The LORD CHANCE! LOR quoted a precedent which oc curred in 1764 in rapport 'olthe pctidon Bit I and ELDONappearinstb entelt ib fettle deubeatialo theop plivability of that precedent. prooofed the poßportement of the ap peal to Nide?. on which day. txkrp•the colnowncelocnt of Teri'', Ole petitioner wool.✓be oh bled to attend withoutatry interfacnce of their I ordlbipe.—Ordered. Lord DARTMOUTH Rated that has IVirajcßy had been wait • ed on with their Lordfhipe Addrefs, relative to the communica tions which had beet, held with the Frank Government en the fubjed of Abelilhing-the Slave Trade, and had given direcitions for laying copiel of the fame befere their Lordfhips. I.ord WALSINGHAM prefented a Petltinnfum the Planters in Trinidad againft the Abolition atilt Slave Trade —Onicred to .lic on the table no the merlon of Lord GRENVILLE, the order for the fieond gnaw r f the Bill for'abolithing the Slave Trade,on Friday next, was difebotied, and a frets order was made for Monday fen *ht. Os the motion of Lord WESTMORLAND, copies sver& or dered to be laid before the Houfe oral', Cortifpondente which Lad taken place between bis Majefty's Secretary of State and the Colonial Governmet.ts, in the Weft Indies, on the fubjeel . of ame• lioradng the eandkion of the naves, and"the of et which the aba ndon of the Trade it Slaves might produce on the listen& of the Colooles--Adjourned. 11••••••••01 HOUSE OF COMMON'S. 11(r. MANNTHSI brought ups Petition againft the BM for iftablithing Water Works in Stratford-le-Bow. Ordered to Se upon the Table. Several Members, among whom were Sir ARTHUR WELLED. LET. Mr. dIOHT, and Lord CIARLES SOMERSZT, were (worn at ese Table. Sir GEOROB HILL being returned for the City of London derry and Becough of Coleraine. wade his eledion for the former. A new Writ was ordered to be Bitted fcr Cokraine, on the motion tat Lord GEORGIC BEM EDFORD. The Cleric ofthe Crown. on the Motinn of Mr. Hoinoust, *as ordered to attend to amend th , return for Horfliam. A tefefrage from the Lords announced, that their Lortifhips tads Betted to the Malt and Penton Duty Bills, without any shiendtnent Sir JOHN NEWPORT brought up a Bill for explaining and intending the Corn Itit`crcourfc MI, palled lan Set Linn. Read a grit time. and ordered for a fecond reading to mOnow. IR 1111 CUSTOMS' BILL. The Bill for Aboliihing certain. Offices in the frith Cullom was read a fceond time, and ordcrrd to lx committed to morrcir. The Ordnance Fitimates were prefented by Mr. CALCRATT, gild ordered to He on the Table. The Committee on the kali Elation Bill was poßponed until td•snorrow. The 'lnure went into a Committee on the idea Militia Service DiII. -Report ordered to be received to-morrow. LONDONDERRY ELECTION. The order of the day for taking the Petition, complaining of an Undue Retain') for the City of Londonderry Into oonfidcration, was, after come ohfery •tions from General WALroLE, Mr. W. NDAS, Sit JOHN NEV.TORT, Mr. PLICZVAL, Lord Howler:, I ft Rose, Mr. WILLIAM, WYNNE, and I.ord GroßoE Beata r ORD, and a divilion in which the numbers were, Ayes 6.1-Noes 49. • . Poßponed from the 29th inft. to tbot7th Mardi next. ♦RMY ESIIMATES. The SECRETARY at WAR having rifen for the purpofe of moping the Order of the Day, I.Prel CASTLEREAGH withed to be informed, previous to going into the difeuflinn on the Army Eltimates, whether men who had accomplifhed their twenty-one years fervice wee• difcharged ; and it they were not, whether they remained in the fervice by their own voluntary choice, or by the authority r f Parliament ? He wifhed alto to learn, whether, in cafe of their continuing in the tervice, they were in receipt of the pay, allowances, and penfions, men. tinned in the plan brought forward by the Right Hon. Gentleman fan year. Mr. WINDHAM obferved, that perfons who were in the Army previous to the introdu6lion of his plan were entitled to all the advantages of it, except the difchatge. His individual opinion was, that they Arnold be entitled to that alfo ; but he yielded to perfons of whole ledgment in loch matters he thought More highly thin he did' of Lis own. The SECRETARY at WAR moved that the le ♦eral Ettimates prefented on the t4th and rgth intl. fhould be referred to the Committee of Supply. The Houfe having refolved itfelf into Paid Com mittee, Mr. HOBHOUSE in the Chair, The SECRETARY at WAR role for the purpofe of moving the cullomar; refolutions upon the Annual Ellimates of the expences of our Military Ettablifh ment. He began by obferving, that in taking a ge neral review of the Efiimates, it would not be need . - far] for him to trouble the Houfe at great length, or CO go much into detail. Wherever any variation fhould occur between the Ellimates now on the table, and thofe prefented lali year, he would confider it as part of his duty to point it out. One very fatisfadlory refult would appear from a comparifon of the Eth mates. It was this, that the number of our effective force was encreafed, and the expences of the eltablilh• anent diminifhed, Neither, however, were lo in a great degroe ; but (till they were confiderable enough to hold out hopes that tomething more extenfive would take place. The number of the Army, it would appear, from the papers on the table, was in- - created about sOOO men, and the expences cf our military ellablilhaaent were reduced by about 90001. Ids than they were in the loft and the preceding year. As he proceeded, he would only take notice if fuch items in the Estimates where there was a. great and flriking variation. The fcale of etiablithment, or, in other words, the defcription of force was pretty much the fame as year. The fiat part of the Ellimates to which he would call the attention of the Houfe, were the items r and 2 : the fir ft embracing Guards, Garrifons, &c. ; and the fccond, the Forces in the Plantations. In thefe two articles there was an increafe amounting to 241,5371. This was a con fiderable increafe, which it would be neceffary to ex plain. There were, firft, the expences of fix Gar iron Battalions, whole fervices at first it was intend. ed to limit to home duty ; a determination, however, i which it was afterwards found nacetfary to depart from. There was another new corps all.) eßablithed for garrifon:ng Canada, which the Houle would fee was productive of further tepence. Another new • corps was all , created, by dividing the Royal African Corps, and adding two new companies to that part of it which was ferving its the Well Indies. There were alfo eleven companies of Sicilians attached to the Ilritifh army ferving in Sicily. He was perfuaded the Houle would feel with him the neceflity, confidering the caufe we were engaged in, of taking a fmall pot tion of the population of that country into our ferviceli and thereby of exciting It fpirit 4emolation among t hem. There was alto an increafe , thrtspht norto nay 4 confiderable extent, in the expences of the lotaira Staff and Commiffariat. This was not the only me 4 creak t an - additi , nal expence of t tomool. had been occalioned ley the article of inereafed allowances. The . 'I -Inure; he-trutied, Would enure him • from going through the whole of the items. They were dated Atothrparpers-in In clear a manner, as to be intelli gible at the ,fita glance. The !feast& total of in. 'create might be dated at 439 73aL: Exclufive of the items he had mentioned, there was a confiderable in- create produced by the difference of pay on the Irifh and Englifh eflablifhments, making, together with txcherpierfees nn payments of certain branches of the fervice, a total of 44,2231. There was alto an in creafe of 19.3611. prodticed by additions to the Com mander in Chief's ellablifitment to that of the Adju tant General, the - Quarter Mader General, Infpettor., General of Recruits, and Army Medical Board.—' The next head nr increafed'expence was occafioned by the new arrangements. I'hele produced an in create in the expences of the OutTenfioners alone of Chelfea and Kilmainham, of 113.1701. Against thefe increafes, gowever, he had to let off a decreafe in the expence of the Volunteer eflablifhment of 248.5°41, The whole of this decreafe, according to the fir ft edimate, would have amounted to 36'd,0c01. but circurndances made it neceffary to keep the Vo• lunteers•nf Ireland four months upon permanent duty inflead ofone,which occafioned an expence oft 19,00 b I. This, with other items of expence, would account for the difference. With refpeet to Foreign Corps, the decreafe of expence in that part of our eftablifh nnent was, in the whole, not lets than 153,5381. In the Abdrati Paper it would be teen that t t,oool. was fet down to the account of the COmpaflionate Lid. This was an item which he was perfuaded the Houfe would moll willingly agree to, when they were in formed that it had been hitherto voted out of an imaginary fund. The only fond let aitide for the Compatlionate Lift was the profits which it was pre fumed would wife .from the laving trp‘m haltpay. Now, this was a fund which was often wholly unpro. &Clive, and which, at no period, ever . produced one quarter of the films aflignable upon it. When the Hence confideted the ecfcription of perfons who de rived advantage frosts the Compaflinnate Litt, that they were in general orphans and widows, who very rarely received above 2cl. per annum from it, he was confident that not a Member who heard him would feel inclined to (Ned to that pat ticiflar article. An other important item in the Minutes was the article of Contingencies. He wt old not attempt to anticipate the objeftions which might be made to it; but if there were any particular parts of it, which in the opi niem of any Gen,tleman required to bo explained, he would be happy to afford in that nine& all the fatisfaCtirm in his power. The Eflimates on the Ta• ble had been framed with the greatest attention ; and if the additional pay and allowances, in conic 'ofience of the arrangtmcnts of iaft Setlion, were de dueled, he was confident they would not be found to exceed 'bore of the preceding years. The Edi• mates for the year preceding the accefli an of the pre• prefent Adminifiration to Office, amounted to 13.93(,3311. The Eftimates for this year, excluding the additional pay end allowances, which he did for the fa:: of fimplii) ing !le compatifon, amounted to 13,710,92 tl. acdoional pay and allewances Amounted to feumething about 223,3291 which would bring the expences of both yea' s pretty nearly to a level. Still, however, he would contend the advan tage was on the fide of the prefent Etlimates—for there was an actual augmentation in point of number, and a pofitive reduClion in point of eltahlilhment, though neither, as he Paid before, to any great ex tent. The whole of the additional expence produced by the new arrangement confided of the folio wing items : £ 260,0c0 Jot-reale of pay to R•valsrs 23 0-0 160 000 •••-•••••••-•••••.•••••••Out profionv. 7,0:0 widow, petitions. An Honourable Gentltman on the oppolite fide of the Houle (Mr. G. John(lone) had given notice of his intention to blitz a charge againli Milliners for a wanton walle of the public money. He would allure him, that the charge would be readily met ; for, lo far from having dtlervtd any reproach of the kind, it would be found that every effort had been made hy Givernment to introduce all pnffible economy into every branch of the public fervice.• The expences r f the ellablifhtnent of 18c6, if arranged upon the fame fcale as the prefent ellimatcs, would have amounted to 14,800,c001. He would not lay that the then Ad milittlfation would have come to Parliament for that fum, but he would maintain, that according to the ellimates, the expences would have amounted to the fum he mentioned. Before he moved the fir It refolti tion, he would trouble the Houle witfi a few words on the fubjed of the military meafures introduced hall year by the Right Hon. Gentleman next to him. Theft meafures confined in new arrangements for the Regular fervice, and a very great alteration in the Volunteer effahl fitment. It would, he was con vinced, be a fubjed of very great farisladion to the Houle, to know that all the alarming hints which had been thrown out refpeding the confequences of the dilfatisfaelion of that great body were proved by experience to be wholly unfounded. Probably, dur ing the agitation of there meafures, and in confe• quence of aelive and intentional mifreprefentation, much difcontent might have been occafioned ,• but he felt happy in affuring the Houle that the effeds of thefe artifices were comparatively trifling. The num ber of thole who withdrew themfelves from the Vo lunteer force was inconfiderable, compared with what it was generally fuppoled to be. Of thole who with drew, there was not one, he was convinced, who would not mnft readily take up arms again, in cafe an inva lion of the enemy Ihould place the country in danger. The perfons who quitted the Volunteer corps might be divided into two claffes ; &If, thole who belonged to corps which were entirely dilbanded ; and, fecond• lv, fuch individuals as withdrew from corps which llill &Red. The latter he fhould not-take into his calculation; for as new members were daily enrolling themfelves, in the wrote of a few months he was con• vinced vie grand total would be found little inferior to what it was when the meafures which had been the fubjet of fa much mifconception were firlt propofed. The number of Volunteers belonging to dilbanded corps amounted only to 11,186. With refped to the new ar&ngements, he refleded with fatibfaltion that he had the li , nour, twelve yeari ago, of firlt (*Omit ting them to the Houfe. He was iscm Canguins isoegh to hope that much immediate advantage icould reiblt•from their adoption; but ht was goof( 'dent that Ayr would ultimately ‘ produce the rnoll effets upon the charadter and compofition tette awry. Though their effect was not fo rapid •nt Nagy pet lons expeded, he would contend that the ,new meafores could not he raid to have abfolately failed. If the low bounty had not produced a great number of Alen, it had the effeB of entirely putting an end to that great comet of the diminution of our military firengti, he mvattt defertion. Since the new meafures bad been ad pled, it was inconceivable how much the number <A defertions had been reduced. The plan, he was perfbaded, if beadily adhered to, would, at no great &fiance of time, produce all the advantages which were expected from in He would notnew take up the time <.f . the Houle any longer, but move the fill Iterdittion. . ...... .....__ ..._ • . The Refolntion having been read from the Chair, Lord CASTLE REAGIf . Paid he was not pie. pared to deliver his opinion to the Hnufe on the lud• den, on fo large a quellion ass that under slit - claim, in all its detail:, involving the general militAry po licy of the Empire, and tile inndamental changes that had taken place in the ian Seffion of the bill Pat-na me/v. In the view of the viclent propofitinns, under all the circumllances that accompanied them,•he confidered the preterit Parliament to be placed in a fituation of extraordinary difficulty. Feeling him fell individually placed in Inch a fit uaticn, he expeet ed that when Parliament was called together in filch a manner, there was !lime great nnd prefling qua Lion, filmic paramount and ennui trilling motive,which Ihad induced Islinitlers to the line of condat they,had followed ; but from the opening of Parliament up to the prefent moment, he had found nothing parti cular on which the Houle was to be called upon to decide, but the ordinal y detail of bufinels ; excepting indeed that great meal - tire of negotiation with France, which it might have been better, certainly, at feria as, well, not to have difcliffed during the Chrillmas holidays, hut at the time molt convenient and fnitable to all -. a meafure in which the charaeler and interest of this country, andthe interelt et Eu. rope at large, were lo much concerned. With that tingle exception, no mealnre whatever of important concern had been fahmitteci to Parliament. Whether this was for the credit either of the country or them felves, he would leave to the conlideration of Isli• niters. It was but doing jiittice to the Right Hon. Gentleman who moved the Refoln;ions to fay, that every thing on his part had been candid and fair. He might, however, remind him, that in the courfe of tall Seffic.n he had (though certainly not immediately in his Majelly's Council', yet in a high official littia• tion) moved not one, hut leveret Estimates—not one, but 1 ur Outing Bills. This lie mutt confid e r as tending but little to the facilitating of public tranf aCtions, and as doing little f-r the public ht:finefs.— 1 His Lnrdfhip proceeded to obterve upon the motion, 1 of which notice had been given, for ten theurand I more men for the navy. He did 'lnd wean to quer- don the propriety c:f the progoied vote, hut he ci uld not admit this anticipation of fu; plementary mea litres. He Gould corder the vote prupored at once to there fucceffive pre pal:ions ;and on the lame ground of objeCli: n to an in eeular ryllem of proceeding, he lamented to fi nd Parliament called upon th it night, !placed under peculiar ciictimflances, as it then was, Ito sore, not limply for any maker y meafure, but for new military fyilemr, coupled with old ones, in the ! fame ettimate crilleftively, and without an rpportu n'ty being given of dtainguithing the merits or de• fees of either. This he conceived to be a fy Item on which it was impriffible for Parliament or the Conn- I try to proceed, and particularly improper in a new I Parliament, before that Parliament had had an op portunity of examining and unilerfianding what had' a'ifen from the old military fyliern of the country, and what had aiiien hum the new saie of the Riglit Hon. Gentleman ( !kir. Windham). A vote on -ac• count of public let vices might not be 4 . j:lted to ; but I'vlinillers delibetately proceeded to call upon the Houle to vote the expences, and lanelion fo bar their meafures, before they ceaild be fairly and fully con• fidered and examined. Tire Right Hon Gentleman Ih a d a n v i with gr e at cand o ur ; Ina he lamented that the Right Hon. Gentleman had taken fo very limit ' ed a view of the nuellion. He had paid every p ill ; hie attention to his fpecch ; but he mull ark hi m , ' why he did not hate the effeEtive ftrength of the mi litary force of the counti y- as competed with the pro- vilion that Parliamert is as now called upon to make; ! thereby to jutrify ni.ilters, and to thew Tome ra- I tional hopes of our tailing a force loch as thould canfilme the fupplies to be' voted ?Commenting upon I the 240n0001. of favings, his Lot clihip oblei ved, that the Right Hon. Gentleman always avoided the a'nen-.. ironing of thh: new expenditure, and the aCtual Rrength againft the ererny. He thould be glad to vote the fupplies Minifters alked, it he could lee any reafon to expect a . greater degree of vigour exerted, which might jullity the Katfe in looking to a preatet proportion of the fupplies being fpeedily and pro. perly expended. The mind of the Right Honourable Gentleman was too fair and too rogical to reit upon a comparifon of films, rather than on the real effec tive firength of the army, in forming a inn conipa..., tifon of the new meafnres with thole which it-..bid fuperfeded. He bad done all, perhaps, that was in the province of the Secretary at War; bo.t though not in the Cabinet, he might haVe been expeCled to tell the Houle by what immediate or quick policy he was to raife the numbers of the army to the amount the fupplies fuppofed. He had Itated the grofs amount, but not as compared with the prefent etlablithment. Now the grofs number of our frrce was Mated at 334,180, which, with various necellary deduelions, making about one eighth, amounting to 4t,700, left 292,400 men, to be voted upon the face of the refolutions. In comparing the effative mili tary force with the returns un the table, and in fat lowing the Secretary at War tin ough his obrervations, the Noble Lore felt confider:able difficulty, having had only from the preceding day up to that moment the opportunity of feting and examining the papers. —The deficiency in rank and file he confideted to amount to 37,000 men. Now, in calling for fupplies fur thefe 37,000 men, not now exilling, he should find no diltrutl nor dif f iculty in our refources—he could even vote a larger provition, could he but fee any rational ptobability that the meafures of Minitiry were likely to raife them : but he would fay that the Right Hon. Gentleman had made out no fatisfaCtory cafe whatever to call upon the Houle to vote the fupplies for there 37,000 men. Gentlemen on his fide of the 'Tonl e h o d t o . er , called a captious Oppofition ; hut he thotio'it it hi s bound en dilly to prefs this matter as far as h e could on th e l ' II) "Ph ° • attention of Parliament, ev e n „ its migh t be the tail oppolition, under all the el: cumt l ances, that he might give them on this fobjetet. fie did rot bla me Minifiers for endeavouring , to rai'e the 'force of t h e country to the higheß pitch ; 11. hr tho ug h t it the indifpenfable policy of this country I. c att y i t to tha higheß pnffible degree. In thi% 1t: ,;e field of p o lo rical and military dircuffion, it fee r ned extremely dif. ficult to find any point on which Gentl.men 'were agreed, or any thing impost-int to he t a k en for granted. There was, however, this c' nfolatory cit.. cumßance, that the propriety of carrying our army beyond its prefent Rate of firelight was univeri a th. admitted, both within and wi•hutit thole wal's; and nothing that had happened fince the last Parli a m ent had, he believed, induced Gentlemen to alter their opinion upon that fubjet. • He apprehended that, fince this criellion was lag difctitfed,:: nothing ha r t, occurred from the attempt to conciliate France, m o t to obtain a peace confolent with •he interell and ht.. floor o f N., country, to lead u.: t , il, d own w i, ; ; a (mailer military force. The fi ,n,y, it wac true, was now remote, and removed itom the power of menacing our internal recur; t y --t he greater part of 11;.f force was on the banks of theVill.ila: but at the period of the diktat on of Tall year, it was on the bordps of Hungary, and 'bereft , : e, as to the immediate danger, the crellion was the fame ; our internal fccurity twa t t fafe then as it is at the preiltit moment ; and if we were to lookr the future duration of the war, it limprifed that the Right Honourable Gentleman rt the head of the Mi'itary Department, would Oh* that we ought to be able to ca:ry on our operation s acrnfs the feas .(not to (peak of the Continent) as well in our prefent circumliances as at the period when the Houfe la% debased the Military Syltem of the Country. But if the Right Hon. Gentleman,4 former periods of the av:tr, thanght military increafe fo neceirary, and even was inclined to take gloomy views of our fituation, he sCorald aft him, whether he did not think that the exertions he then ahnitgla fo neceirary, would not beegaally fo now, fhonld the enemy be able to fettle his projeSs in Poland, to liberate his armies horn the Vistula; and t., menace an attack on this country, when - his comparative fituation sdnuld be fo much bettered, after his fut. cellos; and even in his maritime means, lush a they were, enveloping this Country from the Sound and the Baltic to the extremities of Europe! He had even gone with that Right Honourable Gentleman in his gloomy views, and he promifed him never to thew any indiq , fition to ft.pport our public exertions, or to make faciifice, for the fake of the I country. The late MioinerF were pledged to Paths ment, as had been Hated to the Home. not merely generally to increafe the army, but he had himfef , had the honour to date ro the Houle the particulr ways and means by- which it nas prop led to add,,, durints the prefent vest-, from 20,C00 to 254'00 men. The Right Hon. Gentleman went before iim in lia view of the neceility of increafe. What his Majelly's Minillers relied on for the accomplilhment of theft views, he should be ready to furnilh him with in de tail ; but Itrong as his own intentions and expelta tions were, that Right Honourable Gentleman was more fangnine. He rememb ere d him prailiog flee i great qualities of our army, but contending that itt ! was great in every thing but in the immediate crigs. A late Right Hon. Secretary of State (Mr. Fox,) to vihn't talents the Noble Lord paid high compliments, called on the country to 11211 from the panic of inva. . lion, and to recover her cc niequence on the Continent, and, thoretore, he felt himfelt jullified in calling on Miniflers for an extetdion of the military force of the county ; but above all, it was to be expe&ed from the Right Hon. Gentleman oppotite, who had at. , racked and maligned the late Government, as well las that at' my Lord Sidmouth, for lowering and de. Igrading the charaBer and force of the country bythe we aTonefs and infufficiency of their military meartnes, arid who had taken Inch i orins to difplace them, rather through the fenfe of Parliament, than the want of confidence of the Sovereign, for the purpofe of mak. ing room for an adininiitration which he might deem worthy of h;st confidence, or rather, perhaps (which was a fair and natural ambition ? , for one whereinhe should have a iituatimo in w.bic 1 le might have the power of creating -an.wmf,acitording to . hi; oten views : Above all, he Amnia' fay ' - it •wasan.be apex. ; ted from that Right . ftbrh—Gentkman, that in the execution of his own intlifty. pr . reeti the Houk Ihould find realizid f inte pr . ariarin at leaft of the pro-' mites he had made. .Whe4q t ylolf.lonrii then proceetki to Rata the. , fastmtailtA Att t 0 change p 4io .. ''Y V i Of VW 0 v_er ti ittilailtigroy.tatii,oiiat , t6 mpa red . with what had heen . effeeed doting the Perfonsl adminiftration.ol the Right Hon. Gentle Man. On the eit of. islonth; 1806, she amount of the effedlive force wa514.8,781. [Here the Noble Lord made fome4ttif#ltis'On the irregularity in the return which have ilatei the number at 249,6 co afr;tit,tpoo higher.] Not on the tit of January,,the.grofs amount was 254,64 men. The increafe of the Militia was fumewbo about moo. • The whole itcreate, the Noble IA .contended, which had been made to the regular forte of the country by the Right Hon. Gentlemak =out ted to about 4000 men. He would take it at front to sOOO men Comparing this meafure with what preceded\ it, he mutt call it a molt melancholy di tee fence. In five months, by Mr. Pitt's Bill, as it vt , called, or the' Additional Dr.Ence Bid, 5700 m:' railed ; and 3000 men were railed bytween 0 2olt of Match and the 2tft of June. Had not th Right Honourable Gentleman onpofite adopted hint given him by a Right Ii -tor r tile Friend r his Lordfitip's once high in other, and receir J through the frith Militia 3000 men, he would bare come to the Houle difgraced, by the total failure t all his promifes and projees. Our forces ailibt aoainft the enemy, the Noble Lord reckoned at 86.000, and after dedo&iorts for cafualties, &c. be confidered the ailing force at 6o or no,ooo men : and, therefore, unlefs we chofe to delta from offer' floe, and turn to deferrive meafures only, we OA .1 a. his Right Hon. Friend, then abfent, had faith eerr e to the queftion, whether we !hall have a peace s' tended with all the difadvanrages of war, or a O f itripped of all it s gl or i es an d a d vantages ? a fort or , philofophical military fyilem dellruaive of the veep obica of hollilities. Nothing was left pleafant to fo rs, Lordship, than to prefs comparifons upon the Right. Hon. Gettlemaa perfonally between him and oche` il but be might. nand a comp s , ifon with himfelf. Het