Star. — London, England, 1816-03-05 00:00:00

r.l -[l bY Gentlemen opposite. He did not blame them for having raised the Property Tax to double what they find it--(Hear, hear)—tor it was found a necessary impose ; but he legged them not to torture his ferliogs by speaking of it on all occasions, as a horrible, infamous, and incjuisitoriah measure, which no man Could impose on the country without committing a crime.---(Hear, hear, hear.) — He admitted it was a question bezween.Ministers and their opponents,' whether a tax in war is to be a tax in peace ? He would not contend that it was, but he Would take the, intermediate propositions, and con tend, that when we were pressed down by the remains of a war expenditure, if the community could be re. lieved from its operation by the amount of one half, and those who were least able tolear it were relieved teem it altogether, it required more nerve than was possessed by any yet of men he had met with before, to come and clamour it down before the war expendi ture was closed, as an ietolerable and inhuman im position—(Hear, hear, hears). By soch conduct, he Must say, that they not only turned their backs on nsisteucy of argument, but even on decency. if the reduction in the army proposed by the Gentlemen Opposite were to be made, we should have to pay back a great proportion of the half-pay and pen sions; instead of two millions, the fifty-six thousand Men would cost thrre millions, and thus we should require a larger vote for no service than Mr. Pitt had for service. Out of the 20 millions there were not less than two millions fur dead expences of the Army, aod one million for the Navy; so that there wa, less than 17 millions, instead of 20, for the support of it. Jt could not hut be known that the pay and every other expenditure of. the army had nearly doubled of laze years. He then ectered into details of improve ments made in the army, which made them mote ef ficient for horny, but not so competent for colonial service, owing to the abolition of the foimer system of drafting. He called on tire House to divest them selves of the delusion that the scale of expense was al small in proportion to numbers as it was in I T 0.2. He justified the retent:on of British troops in France, on several wounds, one of which was, that if they were at home and disbanded, we should have to find Money for the half•pay and pensions. When such an establishment as 110,000 men was voted, it was utterly impossible for any body to conceive that this number was put into the hands of the Execative Go vernment. It would be nothing like .u.:l a number, as it woolci be reduced by casollties anal cat':.-r circum-' stances at least one-tenth. Of this a, relief of 7,000 a year would be annually going . abroad to replace tbpse whuie time had expired, chile those who re turned, instead of giving back th.tt numhir to the establishment, were mere skeletons, nut fit fot any service. tie then repeated all that had been said on a former evening by the Secretary for Ireland, on the absolute necessity of, 25,000 men fur that part of the Empire, though he was no: without sanguine hopes, that Ireland would soon return to a state of order, when this establishment might be reduced.— The amount of troops nectssary for colonial ser vice, was the next topic, on which the N, hie Lord descanted at comiderable leogth, stating the amount , of forte ire every one of our possessions abroad, arid contendingobat each had as salon a numbor as was consistent with their security. The country had not to look at any other danger than what was conting e nt upon human afia:rs; but the world had been thrown into such a state of activity, that it was in vain fur Gentlemen to suppose they could lay down all at once in peace under their vines and fig -trees, and dis miss all expense. A military force was also as ne. votary for the home as the foreign service. There was no civilized country in the world that did not require a military force to be ready to aid the civil power, as there was no nation on earth who did not at times shew symptoms of impatience. C.eitainly, any danger, of this kind was less to be. apprehended is this country than in any other ; but the laws ought to have the necessary support. He ridiculed the idea that the troops in England were 'trended to garrison Dover Castle, and arm every ether foltiiication, ea/t -o:fie: It was local tholes they hall to perform, and out of the 25,000, there were not to be expected mote than 13,000 Et for duty. He justified the employ. Gent of ihe military in the prevention of smuggling, here and m Ireland; observing, that a very small de fect in the revenue would be more than equal to the pay of a very large body of troops. He &hewed bow the whole amount of force was dispersed all over the kingdom, and declared on his conscience, that he he. lieved no branch of the establishment would bear sift ing to the bottom more than that employed at hcnne. Adverting to the force maintained iu Canada,he took air opportunity of paying a high tribute to the loyalty and fidelity of the people of that Colony, and com mented, in pointed terms, on its vast commercial importance, which was equal so a fourth of all Our tietnage and trade. After spewing Liee relative im portance of all our other foreign possessions, he said he felt that the savings so. much talked about could ' not be made at the present moment, without incur. ring the greatest risk, which might affect every man to the last hour of his life. He wculd not quarrel *Oh the Gentlemen opposite about the smallness of the savings; but when they asserted that we were better without our Colonies than to beat the expense of prthecting them, it was necessary to awakes the country from such fallacious arguments and delusions. To persuade the people that the relief they will expe rience by the savings in the present year, is a trifle which ought to be spurned at, was cruelty and in justice. He would say it WA4 a proud triumph for the country, that they wend themselves now, at the end of the most arduous struggle, more extritordinos y and arduous indeed, than they had encountered in any former wa-', not merely victorious, not covered cloy with glory, lent with a fixed character beyond any which they had heretofore otrtained-...4 charac ter which v.-as the admiration of the whole Every body knew that Ptace must be a period of sevulsrou ;. but iustcad of trailing for years outlet bit, • . ter tenth* at - wes the ease itt tete end of the Ame. video war, when it was nefessary to esekte a revenue, what was the situation in Which we now stood The Government, !elite first year of peace, was ena bled to Rive a boon to the people, by the remission o not less than eight millions of taxes; and yet, such was the novelty of our situation, that the Gentlemen 'opposite held this triumph cheap 1 (Hear, hear, free: all parts Mt Horse )—'llist small diminution of our expenditure which could be effected by the reduction of our military force, recommended by the Gentle. men opposite, was not an object olimportance when compared with the value of those defensive'establish ments, which must be given up if this course were adopted. He did mean to say, that if the arrange ments made by Ministers with respect to the force intended to be k e pt u p were wise, it naturally fol.' lowed that the Property Tax mu%t be renewed; but he gave it as his opinion that this must be done (on the reduced scale proposed) if die House wished to relieve the present distress ul the country. The modi fications which would be made in favour of the former would be such, that these, combined with the relaxa tion of the duties on horses used in husbandry, would make the tenant feel as if be paid no Property Tax at aIL The Chancellor of the Exchequer would thus, without at all altering the genius and character of the tax, which nobody could more admire than the Gentle isen opposite—(Hear, hear)--as they had p rove d when in power, by 'missing it to ten per cent.—(Hear, hear)—would effectually relieve from its pressure those en whom it had been feared its operation would be most severe.' By renewing the Property Tax; we should wind up the war with that spirit in which it had been conducted, and this would bring ease and prosperity borne to every man sooner than they could possibly be attained if a different course ensued ; and if, instead of meeting the exigencies of the year iii the way proposed, we escaped them for the present by haying recourse to a loan. He considered the pre. sent question to be one of the largest, in all its bear ings, that could ever come under discus:ion. He wished it to bc billy met, and fully investigated, and he .was confident the House would not take up those gloomy views which some Gentlemen were disposed to enter: tin of the st lie of our resources. He trusted, by boldly meeting the difficulties wl.ich were yet t. he encountered, it would be seen that we proudly con tinued, in peace, to adhere to those principles which had borne us triumphantly through the war. If by renewing the Ptoperty Tax, at five per cent.' they did nst artificially supliport the credit of the country, he was convinced the public in. terest, would suffer, too this done for two ,years, he could conceive a variety of ways, by which, without descending front our high situation, we might be enabled to give up the Property Tax. The Sinking Fund might be in such a state two or three years hence, that that whitly.world be a most dangerous experiment now, might be safely ventured upon then, and its 'immense operation might admit of sortie relaxation, without at all operatrng'to the Noey of public credit. He hoped it would be plain to every Englishman, we had within ourselves the 'means of sustaining our greatness. He would go along with the flun.•Geritlemao apposite in reducins the prt Witt e4Flsl...ihmenis, so tat gai this could beitionet consistently wiih our eationalsecurity ; but be wopld oppose that false economy, which, to effect a small saving. would give up *establishments which he belA to be intimately connected with the best interests' the country.—( Hear, hear.) Lord MILTON rose to speak to the question ; but an adjournment being proposed, the Coascetooft of the EACIIUQUEN inquired it there was a dill osition not the opposite side to posteone the motion ef the Hon. Member for E•sex (Mr. Western) which stood for Tuesday, to a future day ? This being objected to, after a short conversation, in which Mr. Brougham, Mr. F. Lewis, Lord Milton, Sir C. Monck, Mr. Huskisson, ..nd Mr. Tierney participated, it was agreed that Mr. Western's motion should come on thus day, and that the Adjourned Debate should be resumed to-morrow (WedurSd..y.) Mr: fiRN:i.)lll moved for sundry Papers relating to th? Im ports in..: 1 spic . !!t ut Raw links and Manufactured Leather, seelajt h t ; stud for au Avrtitait of Draw backs oil thvreoo, s:atin • it to he his intention, on the pi-wine d= in such Vap , ttll, to b ring lot warJ a motion with a view of benefiting rite Leather Trade in its various branchils. The me. tion was agrei.d to. Mr. BLACKBURN gave notice of a Motion on 'Tuesday next, for a Com:ill:tee to inquire into the Income and Expeme of the Trinity Corporation. The House then resumed, and after a few uniinportant Papers I:a4 been brought up, Adoto..ed at i eve o'Clock rii.s Muttons. FR Alv H PAP L RS. PARIS, MARCII 1. Yesterday the Duke d'Augouleme reviewed the Royal and National Guards on duty, who were mustered for the purpose in the ernirt of tile Carousal. The tour lately made by Lucien Bonaparte through the P.ipal States, induced the belief that he was about to depart privately for America, but the supposition was unfounded, as in point of fact Lucien, has returned to Rome, and there is no appearance of his intention to depart for the other hemisphere.— Letters from Milan state, that the negotiations between the Courts of Vienna and Turin are termi• Dated amicably, and that Sardinia has agreed to the cession of Alesaudria. Marshal Massena has published a Memorial in answer to the Petition Item the Bouches-du-Ithoue, - presented to the Chamber of Deputies in the sitting of the 7th of February. The Departmental Legion of the Straits of Calais is now WO strong. At Tulle the organization of the Gendarmerie is terminated. .01 VS men 44 ha.ve been sent back. 01 ' these soveral have bad rensi,ns Goole: red upon them. The new organization of the War Office is defini tively arranged. Twe hundred and fifty clerks and assistants have been reduced. VENICI, FEBRUARY is. Letters from Milan give us the deligktful bopethat we shall obtain the freedom of our port. We have in our quarantine station two vessels from -Smyrn.i. It appears that the situation tat that city becomes every day more afflicting, and this is owilg not more to the plague than to the ageias of G..verement. The palace of the ,Goveraor, it is .said, has been. pur posely set on fire by the p:..nple, v‘!:u were provoked to it by the plundering habits f! i!,e while:s. The Goveruer strewed himself, v. as forced to retire. The heads of five soldicts vr,re cut oZ, and thrown in the public square. - . 'PH V ENING Sl'A k. LONDON. TUESDAY, MARCH 5, 1818. • PRICE OF STOCK' THIS DAM A f WELVH.O'CLOCK Itethwed 11)1)-1 (shut to clay) mo. o tit—for acc. 4 per Cent. 77f (abut)-5 pa. Cala. 9s. 4p. pt. Ositi. 17 if pr...-Do. pay. 17 if•Escis. lltl4 u. di,. 3s. pr. Last night the subject of the Income or Property Tax again occupied the attention of the House of Commons. The debate was conducted with great spirit, and many most forcible arguments against it were adduced. The Table was, as usual, filled aith fresh remonstrances against the continuance of this odious and certainly most impolitic measure. As an attempt has been made (we shall not say by whom) to excite doubts in the public mind as to the under• standing held forth by Ministers last year that this Tax would not be again resorted to, in the event of Peace, we think we cannot better remove ail doubts on the subject, than by shortly recapitulating the discussion which took place ou the 19th of April, last year, in the House of Clnanoiis : In the course of that debate Mr. Wur u::c.an stated his fears that the Tax could be s..ddled oa the Country for ever.— lucre the lioc.ourable Mem bet's voice was drowned by cries of No! N.! Irons the Treasury liench . ; and Lord CASTL2REAGII rose, and expressly stated, that the renewal w•s intenJei for one year only. Afterwards, when the House was in Committee, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER mo►t d.stinc.ly said, " that in 'order to set at test the &Uhl.' of Gentlemen as to the intention of making the Property Tax perpetual, he would read his Resolution, which stated, that it was proposed to renew the Act relating to a Tax on Propet ty, for sae year only, commencing from the sth April, 1815." On Mouthy, May Ist, when the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER WAS asked it the same right of appeal was to be given to individuals unjustly assessed as they enjoyed under the Assessed Tax Bill, the Right Hon. Gentleman observed," that as the Income Tax was to endure for one year only, there would perhaps be little or no necessity for burdening the Act with any such clAuse." We refer oar Readers, with confidence, to any re port of the Parliamentary Proceedings of the period alluded to, which they may have at hand, for the general accuracy of the above statement. Mean time, our limits compel us to suspend the further expression of our own sentiments, to give insertion to the sub joined well written and pithy communication from a Correspondent. who is ooe of many of nur RCA. Iliao has fawn:wed us with his ideas on the sub-, )ecr, and to whose communications we shall pAy due attention: . _ • . • . . . own interest, as well As to the cinebtion of t • '' .. ='''''. °ll lf l*- 1".. we must look to the na • ' 'et its constitrtion. It could not . 7 14 • 4 4: the same expense as a pro. pOrtionate — !antnber was 'before the great alterations took place in it which has made it what it is. It was IliVscary, on comparing . the Peace Establikhment with that of. any former tame, to take in the charge given tn,every branch of it, and take into coniidera. Con the great weight and dead expense established TO THE L•DfTOR OP THE STAR. " Sta—The Miniury apc.r . ar to foaud their defence of tte Property 'fact on such singular grounds, that think it behoves us to investigate them pretty els,sely ; and if my observations should turn the atter.tion of abler heads to the subject, I think the CuancetLoa of this LY1.111.g1.74:11L wll4 be 400 U driven from all his positions. " ilis first reason for imposing the Tax was % that by avJiJirg the necessity of basic; recourse to a Loan, he should ekvate the St , .cks ; and so sanguine was he in his expectations on this head, that he pravely anticipated a rise of 20 per cent. in two years. " Granting him this position, what will be the resu:t ?.;-Whys that upon an expenditure of twenty-eight mullions by the Cum misstoners ct the Sinking Fund, the. country will lose jap t ae.1% , i00,40U! because they will redeem so much less of the Na tional Debt than they wuuld liable to do at the present price! his is a ravel mode of benefiting the Public certainly ! %, But, says the Cuatsetstet, os the Funds yield less interest to a purchaser, mottled men wm turn from them, and letni their cash to the farmer and tradesman. New passing over the sU• phistt y of supposing that the price of a commodity will continue to rise, when the buyers leave• the market, 1 shall just beg leave to inquire, whether it iv probable that a man will invest his money where it sannut increase in value, whilst there it an open. lug for bins to buy an article which b progressively rising ? Does not experience teach as, that whilst Stocks are rapidly intro,- wg, speculator, always presto into the market ? And will um the sante cause prevent those who bold Stock, selling out, merely to oblige their needy friends with loans therefore, Mr. VA NIIITTART I. correct ii cspect.ng a rise, the result will be, that money, instead of Sowing fru* 'Change Alley to the pockets of ruined fanners and lunitiupt uadere, will flow t. the Alley, from all the provincial capitalists, " The whole of the Minister's doctrine about siding trade and agrkukure by larwase, appears, to plain men. remarkably tab scure—for most pearls have an obstinate prepotwession. that a man's own money bat least as useful to blot as menet borrowei of his neighbour : and 1 have nut yet bees able in meet wit any person who can explain to me, how the farming and mercantile bodies are to be slid, by being eV, ;Ind of six million) by lazes , and then allowed to ierrew six milliass of—thin/whet may choose to lend them so much Public %in len is decidedly,* iaenur a Loan, with a Sinking Ftuni studied, of 5 per crag, winch would divatle the burthen amongst fourteen - years; and the Id:a that if the Income Tax is drepkeil ethers must be levied of rqua, amount, is universally ridiculed. It it also wall uscercatued, th.o if the Art tam:. THE TAX CANN() I' hli C01.1.1i1.3 fur the Agricultural Interest have PO 14 14 . Mei itud the It :Wet. very lit; le." A supply of German Papers reached us this morn ing, but they contain little intelligence of interest- A considerable degree of ill-will seems to prevail he . tWeen the Prussians and Saxons wherever they meet. The Editor of the Risenlek Mercury (which lt.ts-ken suppressed) is under prosecution for a libel on the Prussian Government. Last night we received the French 1 5 4pers of Fri day.. The French Legislators ure still busy settling t:;c Law of Ekctions : it appears to be among then fatd priaciEles, on this head, first, that ncti Llec• tions shall take place every ' five years ; that no per son shall be eligible undeo the age of thiity-five, it an snanied, find thirty, if The trio butt, that anod er chan ge of " 11,iN inomechately expect e d, as woo (oa voli t. among dm* nnw in ' '"' the 16:. c ..1 Budget. The ffici.il br anc h of the it tett E : a Royal O r di nance f or the apraiititni f In Ü b f un in ais div of Fidulaailst Paris Journals of the 2d kstant attired a r, Paper was at Pre.s. The oniy article o t them, is the death of BARTIJUL,4y, the ' I engineer and mechanist, who, in eiNiting the of Plants, al proached o n^ar Ihr Lyin g an ,,, i .' 44 About fi fteen days ago M. 13 4r.lielin- ay ireee - % the stupendr us eltp!):0 tin ttlat en nw i er . e, 4 , 0 many persons do, otreted Something 6 hi ll 4 "l._ the elephant, 04i:licing he wished o ffl y trat " , struck him such a severe blew with hisitvie: forced his arm upon the pali,atie Knee.: lodge, he w is taken to the Louie of of Rochcgaude at Nai:terre, 311:1 I! ; etv not being .ittende.i to in time, alt tf;c erticns matte to sAve pot ed ineCects.L Crt.lot, who sea ta.pt;s one d 114. bez,u..e have foil, w e d the Low' i. as I ) :. e n just n a m e d Chief of the g ic” l cf Tie r, port is in the neig!ihout!...od o e; that Lai:byte Deatoncttes a. ,d Drouet yet in tl:c ecuntry under dillst disgik t. Gendarmerie are making active ....atc4eifaitz Charleston Papers to the :19th Jariusr fists , been received, but, with the loiluwi! g ru ;:o contain no news : . 1" f , The Court of Ma.. 1141 las dectv4, Out Island of Porto Rico, 514.41 he the molt f, r l Curntuerce for fittv:n years to ail N4tions, h be a Spanish Consul in the parts of thtcm from whence the veuels take their departstkil Wand." TIIF. 4Rmr. The .51st Regiment, it is supposed, walk s * Portsmouth garrist.n directly after dr:. butt GENT 1011164 Brighton. Last week three companies of Sappers surd into Portsmouth from France ; two complui est remain in the garrison ; the other has embail t i Plymouth. _ _ A detachment of the 26th is arrived at err.b.irk to join their Regiment at Gibraltar. The 89th Regiment occupies Foy:house BIM Portsmouth. The SW Regiment have mudoll Gogrom The Regiments of the line in England, Scab and Ireland, are to be reduced ;o four hundred, each, in June next. NAVAL INTEL L r; Eva. FALMOU MARCH 3. Arrived the Queen Chartute picket, tith tf, from Surinam; Spanish brig from London for Mon ; Peace, Artttrm•x, f ditto, for Gibraltar ; Vel•city, STANT3N. fr,n ii for Lisbon; Argus, KIDSON. from S' i• 131 fx maica ; John and Thomas. 1 - 11crilN, (yin Ltd. for Madeira and Demerara; Sisters, A.l?.lssTtsirs L+•ndon for Jamaica ; Crocus. DONOVAN, Iron don for the Mediterranean. The Queen Ch trlotte packet sailed from Seim the 21 of January, from Dementra the I MII Jea and from Guadeloupe the 2d February. The Richard, for London, sailed from Dmiteran the packet. The Montagne packet arrived all does 20111 JAnttary, and s tiled the 22d fitr kw. Since writing the above the following veveh Lot arrived—NAncy, CLARKE, from Lintion teats caster; and Louisa, HOLLAND .% from Weal:sits Shoreham. PORTSMOUTH. MARCH 4. Arrived his Maj sty's ship GRANICV. Pvt the Flora and Mary transports, from 111alt4; I well transport, from Messina; Renovation Inn from Genna ; Clio, Boom, film Zante, under. ratline; Baows, from sea, put back ;Fa SMITH, from sea, put back ; Augerona, MAT St. Thomas's, with loss of too mast, torequid sails. No sailings. —Wind W. blowing fresh. Sunday sennift, about two o'clock in the =mitt, el persons broke into the honse and shop of James Rster, l Quartuby, near Huddersfield, Vorklhire, ciettrd , eter, utter demolishing all the windows and window frame, leo ral yards square. proceeded. to break the sheais and shear-frank,. used in the clotbdre.sing buil/xis; se,l, Iry effrcted Omit lawless purpose, retired without etwitstkoll of the family. Ik;ithits this last fortnight, the Minces in the r.eigl6o 64re Dudley, Tipton, and Oldury, hose sevval , ireat numbers. to some ins , ances Chap 'Jaye pr. , creit 2 .14 and more than twenty of the moat active have twee scoa.aw corruntited to the County Gaols of St.rf.ird and Wette r. blotid.ty senuight, ata a boat from o;tielizia r ' , dredging for oysters, near Edinourgn. it "I U V and t-tir out of a crew of five men perished. STATE 01/ IHE ODDS—BET ! IN° ROOM, MASCO DERBY. 6i to 1 apt Penny Tempe:. 16 to I art OHleak 10 10 1 ••••••••• )0111 of Parts. by WratLertuct. 12 to I ()rowel. • 17 ..) 1 agct Sateen/ aki . ll 30 to t lel, be. to Tett& of Rival. OAKS. 6to l art sister :o Crispin. Bto 1 agt &Wee ta • to t.. 1 agn ivy otber Tuz MATC!fe•—i to 4 on Sat Jo:llua, apt • 0•11.1ORR:t NIORNING. Al' NINE 44 : • ' two Prize. of 650 o GUINLAF I Two Prises of 20.0(X) FOUNDS!. And 4,X0 other Prizes o: £5,000„ Al ,65 10 •0 10 "' Yet in the Moe!. ao4l no Psoar Awl rr Most all be drawn TO MORROW, or tts Day of Drawls. CAPI l'Al. PRIZE.; Drawn on Febnolit t No. 6,1147 a Prize ~ 000 11,U48 1,00 14.60 19,800 1,448) Were all Sold and Shared by HAZARD, BURNE, and Co. COttatlAr l s Front Gate, Royal F.sch:lage. N. B. This la THE ONLY LOITERY--No nog ; to follow It. LOi<l.h)lNi ennsed by I. rickidt Elati publiblied :bar b atig at the Stitt (diii‘e, TeuVA P. ~ x I. ' • 1111 • I . - 1 I. 1 i -Wi -!." ■ •1i it Joh 1 3eti .a. A f Jd I Jaz A d i die of gib ' So trb 8.1111 too of to ed tor Ila Pal Lei ott ; *ad !lel vlill POO S