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PARLMMENTARr PROLEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, THURSDAY, JUNE Conael were farther beard, and evidence addend, ea the 7.ouckse Peatge..—Poftpassed till Thurfday nest. Oa the Oaks of the Day being wowed for the kneed reading of the Ayltibtary Bribery BIU. Lard GRENVILLE rake end Bata. that however cooßteent to his own ides the provibons of this Bill might be, and however mach he alight think them founded in Julticc and propriety. it was net his lasentko, if a Bogie Member of that Hoafe dlfspproved of It, or thought that fiefleient evidence of the milky of it did rot airoady /add, to vas it on their Lordaire conlideratioa, they had fa: New inecßiPzed its principles. He Quaid, therefore, atone that Oannfel be allowed to attend to the evidence to be 'd ewed by Nit pates petitioning ia fappose the Bill ARer haw cooverfaka between Lords Chanceflor, Grenville, sad Auckland, It was agreed, that the Order for the kcood read holltaid over dB Hoaday neat, sod that widow be wow heard for the Yakima. In lupport of the Bill Several erioeffee wore secordingly bard la rapport of the Bill la the verde of which a whacks of the name of John Toms, having Rated that be bed wade a asauwandnas of the gnome, of the Eire tans who had accepted of saenci to owe on the left elabian, which nennonaden be bad left at Aybdbary , their Leedibire wards® that this wits& iheald go to Ayielbery for this ateneweadwa, which be Rata I, be had hitt at helmet sad the Depute , Redact at Anew sew Mesa to accowspaq kiwi, for the palpate a Sating to the Houk theeireataftessees nadir tad& the pallor IMO be found. He was &reified to rears as biaaday. The farther earegnatioo at witaelks was palpated till twaseawerovuAdloante4. HOolla OF COMMON& he Sight itaa. Oeorge Reis", the Oulu red his Seat. on A' noelmiliere he Cbbitightbd.- -., a A Nails. pretested by Mg. UCH?, *an the Corn magmas. 4 ye lb. ad alcre is He Ma Corn 1104 4 Wrath rignikie *slaw of . Tretle between Ireland awl asfs.l. Is. esewerdere. 0 the tater t 0 wee a Nei ehrs pedrapi 0 Me. DIM. • hierehases at Liverpool easeerirl bis she Mew Trade. ' 111 Isr the Ahearn of tierTsaderesederae wend 0 behead apes the bur Pe- diem 7 -1111rIband web* of Ms Weer Clothlon Reeekdoe HI su', mile maim or Mr. labsiss, poltpeoed tit seemeermr. fikkaote aserimed thee a pia in the Dodge of Leander talleitor amino Mei psdhlion s Member at tin . Midst misksheilleffigeme oirsher IsiirMarakin rulaM=Wir elsesieffmeet alga so weer Ids (mitotic maks. dist be weald water ==stiveridair= &mil Um kr in oiled to .Ai Overt Mlle ea diefflothr eseitinvelea the Re port stasis! . the Mob et dm labeled Mee lino man= seed , the ahead= web to agreed tot' sod Is way ordeer4 dist the imp spiel Ida Meth 11* geisimahe Imer imikeireeellmftr seat. are lot a Mitscelsfispeggs,fferalt cmeas_ll6. Deemsso., mite mess. = Prif e lsiffdlesffebe at Mem m bred 41 49 3 4 1 4. 1 1; dlegisiel 1 11=1= ti tnel l oses tM es Ile meths telissnro astahelill IMMO Illittas pet off titMOD. :4/1: 4 =" 1 : • . 1 7 11. pa uant to the no tiee he had given, to call the attention of the Monte braidede amea& of Mr. Nike Fox, of the Court of Counatna Pleas; in Ireland. He was extremely foray thft life painful "ditty Oswald be impofed on him, of heasas forward is Cations charge aga!oft a perfon hol fo high and honourable a fitaation as that of one the lodges of the hied. But when fuels per. loos mide an improper safe of their authority, it was the duty of Parliament to enquire into.their wawa. The Honoarable Baronet then recapitulated the lead. ieg points of a petition, which he held in his band, and which. he Paid. came from a very repel:table Maelhate in the North of Ireland. He then pre foulad.- die petitioN which was read by the Clerk. It portionot to boats petition of John Hart, E. of '16,00 de in inland ; and Rated, that the retail!? of certain elates in that county, and in of Dosocgal. The Peti :rimier then relates the oiscoollsees oi a man named -Dobfen having been tried it the IA autumn Affixes for Donate, on a charge of improperly procuring 'tat oath of a matt. concerning the repair of . 4 11 goads , *ad that tie (Mr. Han) bad no concern - whatente is that teal, or in the bufsnefs to which it related. Mr. juftice TO; fat as judge upon the trial ; soE'Mr.'llart attended as owe of - the Grand Jury. b judge, during the trial, took oceafion to charge .tee' petitioner with haring intkrfered in. the bufunts in an haproper, annoy) and uted there expreffions concerning him to the Petty Jury-- 0 degraded and difgraced as he is by this trantaaioa, which will en tail eternal infamy on him and his fatally." On the trial in queßlon, the Jury could not agree in their verdia ; they continued (hut up till (even o'clock, wise* the Jadge adjourned the Court, and was pnweediog to dinner, when the Sub-Sheriff fol- ' lowed hint, and told bins the Jory were agreed in their Verdict, judge Fox would not return to the Court, but told the Sub Sheriff, that the jut, mull cool their courciences till fix o'clock on the Monday morning following. (This happened on the Satur day), On the Monday morning, the J ury were taps. top the verge of the County, and difarged.— On the (ante day, the Petitioner waited on Judge For, siteraiked pertnifGon to return to Londonder ry, in order to attend a Corps of Yeomanry ; this was rehired; and on the following day, in court, the Judge anted an information to be laid againft Mr. Hart, raid, he flood charged with a molt heinous offence, mauled him to be taken into enßody, and put into the common dock, viz. the place where coo !rifted felons utually hood. While in that fltuation, the Judge &Aced him, what he had to fay for himfelf? The petitioner was fo much affeßed by the fituation be was.placed in, and by fo extraordinary an addicts, that air* he was unable to articulate one word.— The judge then charged him with the commiffion of a moll infamous clime; raid the Crown Solicitor fliould be direfted to apply to the Court of King's Bench for an information againfl him; that he fhould be tried at the next Affixes; and then held him to heavy and enormous bail for his appearance. When the next affixes came on, no Bill of Indiement was found by the Grand Jury againfl the Petitioner ; who now humbly reprefented to the Houle, that through . the conduct of Judge Fox, he had ruff:red great injury in his perfon and his charaiter. and that in him, the rights of his Majesty's fubjetts were grofsly violated ; that he could not, with any probability 01 Weed's, inflitute a legal minding againo the Judge; and he humbly prayed, that the Hunk would adopt Inch prxeeding as to its t i.dom thoulel kern ht. in order to give him redrefs, and cia red the abide he complained of. On the motion that this Petition fhould be !aid on the table, Mr FRANCIS role to allt, before the Order theuld tde, whether it was the intention of the Honour- able Earonetto tale any proceeding grounded upon - - this Petition? - - Sir J. STEWART replied, that after the petition Could lie a certain time on Mt table for the exami nation of the Members, he certainly did intend tq move that it &mild be referred to the confidcration of a Committee of the whole Houk. MR. CLICM‘MTSON. Sir CHARLES MORGAN, after Tome prefatory otsferrat!ons, highly complimentary to the cooduft of Mr. Cicmention, while io the fuoice of that Houk, and dating that she motion be had to . ' fubmit was juftilied by precedent, moved an Addrefs to his Ma jetty. praying that fame adequate pmvillort &Gold be made for John Clemestfon. Efq. who after roving that Hock very nearly thirty five years, during which he had faithfully and diligently performed the office of Deputy Serjeant at Arms, and who had lately retired In confelorsee of his advanced dine of life. General NORTON felt a peculiar *afore in fecooding the motion. Mr. ADDINGTON was happy in bearing telUmony to the merits of Mr. Clementlan, whale eoodut he had long an oppor tunity of obferving; and he could truly fay, that he had not only never aertd an offence. but that he bad given univerfal (advise tkot in the wt. onsance of his long and laborious Cervices. The motion was agreed to woe wo. and the Addrefs was or dered to be relented by fuch Members as were of his Majdty's Privy Council ---- - - - PRIME AOIWCY. 11,1rIAAVIII sawed the Order for the fecond reading of the Prise Agency Ilk Mr. W. DICKENSON confidered this a meafure of the utmoft importance, not merely to Prize Agents but to all thofe connected with the Navy. Its prin ciple and provifion was at prefent under the confide ration of the Board of Admiralty, and they willed for further time to come to an opinion upon it. To the grant of that time he hoped there would be no objection. As much and very urgent bufinefs Rood for next , week, he moved that the Order fhould be poßponed till Toefday fe'nnight. Mr, ADDINGTON obferved, that this Bill was founded upon the Report of the Commiffioners of Naval Inquiry, which Report had lain on the Table of the Houfe fince July lag, and the notice of his Honourable Ft iend refpelling this Bill had beengiven in February lan. He therefore taw no reafon for farther delay, as every Member had already had fur &int time to confider it. Various reafons had oc- ' carted to delay its progrefs heretofore, but he hoped it would now, with all convenient (peed, be carried into effeet. Its principle was (uch as he thought no man could object to, as it was calculated to fecure to our gallant defenders a fair diltribution of their prim-money. by expediting that diftribution, by re -1 caving a fate lodgment for the produce of prizes when any appeal thould be lodged, and by eftablifh big a public prize agency office, to which (cameo, their affigns, and all others interact!, could retort ear information. There being the objects, he trolled' that the delay of the Board of Admiralty to confider 'Edwin would not be offered as an argument againft their adoption. If any of the provilions of the Bill were not calculated to carry their objects into diet, they might he altered in the Committee, but he could not conceive any reafon why the Bill &mid be pre treated from going through the Rage for which the order of this evening Rood. If, however, it World b ripened according to the amendment, he willed k lii be underflood from Minillers, that the fecond would take place on the day fpccified in that ;lesit. Anxious as be felt for the fuccefs of she 4 afore, it would give him pleafure to have it taken up by Government, and he would be Mil more pleafed that they (tumid fupport the prefent. Bill, which he was not without hopes that Houfe would agree to have read a fecond time this evening ; at all events he trolled that no further delay than that pro. ',Mid by the honourable Gentleman on the Tres fury Bench would take place. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQU ER laid, that the defire was to poftpone the difcn of this Bill until Tuefday fe'nsight. The grounds were, that it was in its nature extremely novel ; thofe who were molt competent to judge, entertained different opinions concerning it, and the Board of Admiralty had not been enabled, from the multiplicity of bufinefs which engaged its attention, to afcertain as yet how far it would be adrifable to recommend its adoption. In this Rate of things it would of courfe be impoffible , for Minifters to make any pledge as tc the part which they Mould take upon the ultimate determination of this queftion. The reafons which induced the pro pofition for putting off the confideration of this Bill to fuch a diflant day, arofe from the important nature of the fubjea, which was likely throughout the whole of next week to occupy the attention of the Houle. This argument he was aware he could not hope to make any impreffion upon the mind of the Right lion. Gentleman who (poke fall, for he profeffed to think that the adoption of any further provilion for the military defence of the country might be put off till the next Seffions. With rc foe& to the defire expreffed on this occafion, that the Bill before the Houle fhould be hurried forward, he could not help exprefling his furprife, that it fhatild have been Co long delayed by thofe who now feemed to think it urgent; and that after having had the Report alluded to, and the Bill itfelf before them for fu many months as had been Rated, they fhould now refute to others who had not the fame advantage, the opportunity of a few days to examine the fubjca. Mr. JOHNSTONE proftffed to difagree with both the Right Hon. Gentlemen who (poke lag —as the former had procraftinated for In many months the progrefs of a meafure which he fecmed to think fo preffing, and the latter and his colleagues had had full time enough fince their acceffinn to power to invef tigate the fubjea ; and alto, as it was underftood from the Secretary of the Treafury on the lag day this order was pollponed, that the fecond reading Gould take place this day. Upon the principle and detail of the Bill before the Houle, the Hon. Mem ber referred the declaration of his fentiments till an other opportunity, of which be timid ava;l himfelf, to (hew that much complaint conneaed with this Cub jet lay evict! the Court of Appeals, whole cantina was a reproach on the adminiltration of juftice in this country. Mr. S. BOURNE difciaimed having 7,iven any pledge of the nature &Imbed by the Honourable Gentleman, adding, that be never had any authority to do fo. ?Ir. IL WARD thought the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Addington) would find himfelf mill aken in fuppnfing that no Member could °Neil to the principle of this Bill. For his own part, he thought it very objea'o e. It propofcd to introduce quite a new ende—quUe thiTerent groin that which has el ided (ince the rc,r,n of itieen Anne—to erea a new office, mkt the direltion of the Board of Admi- ratty, with fabrics of 0001. a-yqr, livery man le' the ?levy, below the rank of Captain. was affii' to be deprtvcd 'of the riga of porninating Igs own age nt; and that copulae! ever theplot - coifs of prize money, while an appeal was pending.. pificia feamen now had in conlitoence of a late AR, wet to be done away. Captain MARKHAM thought it irregular in the Hon, Gentleman to ilifeufs the principle of the Bill on the prefent oecafion. Dr. LAWRENCE thought otherwife, and the Speaker corroborated his °Onion. Mr. WARD refutned, and after a for Luther ob (citations, the amendment was agieed to. MAVIS TRAM. Mr. WILBERFORCE moved the Order of the Day for the fecond reading of the Bill for Aboliating the Slave Trade. Mt. FOSTER intreated the Hon, Member to al low precedence to another Order of the Day. for going into a Committee on the Petition of the Ira Linen Manufaturers, as it was upon a &hp* of the moll preffing importance. involving the Intereas of the (la* commodity of Ireland, and upon which the Petition of all the linen manufwiturers cud merchants in Ireland were before the Hoeft ; betides, the Lab great linen market at Dublin. was to be from the middle to the cad of the month. 'anti. all the great orders for exportation remained pending the decifsom of the Houfe upon the fajta. Mr. WILBERFORCE Paid it was peißbie he to Slave ac commodate both ; for as the &hen...upon t Trade Bill 'Meru*. place tri a future Gage, samelY. on the motion for the Speaker's barbs the chair. previoufly to going into, a Committes, all that be meant to prefs that evening ! was easily the cond reading of the Bill. and the bearing d fe e' sad examination of evidence. ' Lord TEMPLE raid it would be impollle to poßpone the debate this day upon the few:id ,rcat. jng, as this night the mail for Jamaica wadi be made up, and it was of the tamed impatience that it thould carry with it the decifem s the Houle upon the fobjea. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEnEII . Paid, that however important the Noble erd may conceive it to be, that the Weft Intha mail of this night fhoold carry with it the • , of the Houfe upon this quakes, be feared if del Houle fhould even go into debate Upon the Dill. mail could have taken its its before the l i /bat& would have formed its deri6n. He was, 'therefore, for acceding tb the propofition of bfir. i Wilberforce, as the day on which Counfel wire to be I 'heard on'BiUs, however insportent, did Roth**, to fie days of fall attendance, and' as it world be too late an hour to go into debate, after evideece thould have been gone through, and the alguethels of Conn. fel concluded.' . ' • • ' . Sir LAWRENCE P' ESC* - C ob . 411.111104 . of the Slave Trade A lion leok:1, , ' ~.; circonsikances, a new fubjea to -% • ~ bees of that Houfe. In the year 5706 it .710 ! r palled that Hook for abolifbing the African III* oath Trade, after a United peridd; but this it erak a principle agreed on, that in the Interim &mid be taken for increafing the native of the Weft India Hands. Was the oath prepared to proceed with a Bill of this me . 1 Without enquiring what progrefs had Welk this refpea ? A correfpondence of COO length had taken place limes* the Secretory ell State and the Well India itwent ore *shin Jed. the papers open *bleb were now 14.7 1101 table. He was confident that Got WV afti. Members of the Houk had read dtdik pron e tu was even fire that the Honourable Wither who ip►► troduced the Bill had not read them ; he dieter*, hoped the Houfe would not be precipitated to a dm atoll upon a fubjea which occupied Icemillhicaef capital, which produced two tnalions, of rrreoter, which brought tote country eight millions of pro, duce, and enabled us to export four millions of pr. ' duce, until .thde papers were twisted, and time al lowed to Members for due confideration. He weal as much an advocate for the abolition of the Slave Trade as any Membei of the' Route, neverthelefe l l he %elated the Houfe to proceed with deliberation, and not in its furor to promote the porpofes of ho -1 manity towards the Weft India Slaves, to defeat thole pur pores. Mr. WILBERFORCE made a few remarks oil Sir Lawrence Parfons's fpeech. I On the queßion being put, Sir L. PARSONS rote again, and made a variety of obfervations, in which he contended that the only tendency of the motion would be, to transfer the trade to other nations • in which be was followed by Mr. Dent and Mr. Ful ler. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought, that if the Bill was difcuffed that night, the next flep would he to hear Counfel. Mr. DICKENSON; Sq. laid, that the Petition of the Weft India merchants had only been received ' the day before, and that therefore a fufficient time had I not been given to Members to turn their minds to the fubjeft. He then moved, that inßead of the word', " now," the words " this day fennight" flunk! be fobilituted. Mr. ROSE firpported the Amendment. Mr. CALCRA FT thought the courfe of proceed ing diforderly. The SPEAKER confidered the proceedings as being perfealy in order. Mr. ROSE explained, sad alluded tb a pamphlet recently publifhed, with a view to influence Gentle-' men's minds on the fubjea.under difcuffion. Mr. WILBERFORCE thought. that as the Hoek had determined oothe fecead reading of the Bill for , that evening, no fort of objeaion could be rationally taken to it on the ground of Coeliac. Thole who oppofed the meafure were perfealy attentive to their own interefts. He had fern the Counfel in his way to the Houfe, whore habits of indußry and attention were, lie was fore, futhcient to bring them before the Houk perfealy prepared for the queßion. As to the pamphlet alluded to, he had read it with great pleafore and appronation, but he could not fee what improper effeEt it could have. Was the Houfe to be fuppded to be taken captive by that book, fo as to require another week to enable them to recover their judgment ? Mr. FULLER fpcke itrongly for the amendment. The meafure was calertated only to ~ gratify ill affea ed peanut, by the plunder of One of the Rata pro perties of the Empire. Sr W. YOUNG Spoke in favour of farther delay. , It was r" contell of par ties for vietorgfs fake, but a ,quefti , "on which depended the fate of the Empire. Lord CASTLEREAGH thought that the great .mats of information on the table ihould have been I W nrinte H d fore th could not come advantage of the Members of that oufe. properly to the diftuf i fion without a knowledge of the details. He was a friend to the abolition, but in looking to that obje& I he differed widely from the mods propofed by his Honourable Friend. The Houfe on former occa- Sons, in voting for abblition. had always in view abolition with regulation, but abolition without re. siltation had been always related., His Right Ho. insurable Friend. be was well allured. proceeded on the principles of a beneSolent and liti virtuous h in mind ' but the experience of former propoona, bot this and the other Honte.fulfieed to Stew that he had not, In the prefect taken the molt prudent and Kennet line. 1 . Mr. FOSTER fald e the queltion had turned fo much on the merits and demerits of it, that he thould only fay, that be •wilhed to fupport the meafure of abolition; bat that to-morrow, in the first inflance, be Should mowed to the other bnfinets .refpating Ireland, of which be had before fpokm. Mr. DICKKNSON, jun. laid, that the .C.nunfel Were not Folly. having 13C;11 engaged . i 4 the Houle of Lords, He therefcce_put the mister to the can dour of the Honourable Gentleman. 1 - Mr. DENNIS BROWNE (poke a few words. The CHANCELLOR of thr EXCHEQUER Ilead no übjeftion to proceeding in the manner propof b lay Mr. Fake for to-caorrow. CM the Tuition being put on the amendment, there appeared—Ayes, 66 ; Noes 74. 04 the GaUeryleing re-opened, Sir W. YOUNG was found upon his legs: He Mat .ccolierable. length *yank the prtnerple of and Waved that it .had. milled from the ligolge of King Charles the Second to the prefect pe rkily during which time it bad been of effential be ad' to the revenue and commerce of the country ; be thought that it was a Bill of general foreclofure coming to a haltreoielufton, entaterefore found it a duty umninbent co him to opWe it. _Sir RALPH MILBANK obfarved, that the work of the plantations might be very wcU carried on with the alliance of mules, au. Ike, and that, by adopt. in dad plan of only math% a moderate portion of labour 'froen the Negrogs,lhdr populAuoa would _ . ""TlLLlA — Viligtfil ‘lm lgra • Mafia fosse degree of (strife at Morin .the Worthy Baronet who (poke at but oat'leillkht that he thought the Hooks was casing to.a hay: es:Manton, when tha•mtellitia i had barged, Reties yeari before the Hoists. •With nifped . tatheirgantent. that the, population of the Sept Hands 'cooldao&pogibly be kept up for want a a *Went number of (erodes. he mentioned that it • : fallee withii-his win knowledge. bef i t • ' . s i that an to Manager . ••- • ^ a . . ithougb; it necelfary to buy tc* beta .‘ - " .ai Wore& his flock during thlt peer i ,..... impdry, be fotmdthat ha bad thugs . _ . '. . -The inferesioe _was 'dittoes, boys( or' • • . _ J : Pete foetid heft to =fair the put,. .. - . '"ii , 7-• ... • did nos chore to purchafe that defeription of Negro& that Wis [aid to be want. int to laerwatibe *mulattoes' they bad rather put; . ch*Gt:aa addition. than go to the trouble - f rearing att addition to their goek jam..GOELL (44;u: d r:vow of the Bill. - . far 3 NEWP9ILT that it was his wigs to natoissehi gi = irbsols tugs a trade reffeded oa tsar fain as It was a traffic which had its *iodides in hijuillt apd in Mood, and against loch IliNilluntlnible article of 'eolowerce, he would ever talk his voiee—assa jellos, ram Cans I ~ lard TEMPLE objeded to the dikvifion of the "Aim in &thin a Houle, aad recommended that forta a wears time Mould be given for Membeii to esalfidar o(the vat quantity of- Britifh capital that wasaasplayed in the Well India Iflands.and to adopt fosse plan for the relief of the Proprietors who might (offer by a too (ridden abolition of the trade. At all events, it Was likely that other nations might take up the trade if we left it off. and therefore he fhould op. pofc the Bill in every flage ; it would teal the death warrant of every white inhabitant of thofe itlands. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH EWER oh fervid, that he had thought that the fubject had be come fo hacknied that there could not be any thing new introduced upon the fubjed. The opinions which the Noble Lord had just delivered had, however, con vinced him of his error. He at firll Teemed to bet 'for a week's more time, as if that could he any objed in a bufinefs that bad been Co many years under dif euffion. He then laid that other nations might un dertake the trade though there was not any other nation that coold i fpare either the capital or the (hip ping that was nece ary for that purpofe. And lall,and moll extraordinary of all, he had laid that the aboli tion of the African trade would teal the death warrant of all the whites. It was br ameliorating the condi tion of the negroes already in the illands, that Tome degree of attachment and fidelity to their mailers was to be produced, and not by the additional importa tion of barbarous and unenlightened favage recruits, who would be ferocious, vindiaive, and untraeable ; who had freth in their minds the idea of being torn from their native country; who could not poffibly have any attachment for their new mailers, and who were molt unfit for even the molt laborious Rate of civilized fociety. The old Negroes, or thole who were born in the iflands, wereTamiliarized to their fnuations, and in many intlances would have a degree of friendikip for a mailer whom they had long ferret/. white would make them &udder at the idea of any revolt againft him. The Hnufe had long fince fees the danger of French revolutionary principles coming in contaft with the fituation of Negro flavery ; and yet the Noble Lord teemed to fuppofe that they were to be fnothed by the kindnefs of introducing new vic tims, who were ufel:fs in a domestic point of view, and who, from their barbarous habits and utter igno rance of the kindneis and humanity of their new maf ter, would not be to likely to do any thing to injure them, as the old fervants oho hid experienced their generofity and their feelings towards them even in their degraded fituation. Dr. LAWRENCE paid 2 jult tribute of praife to the powers of the Right Honourable Gentkinan in declamation. He, however, differed from him in opinion as to the propriety of the Bill br'nre t!,: Huu:e. Tilt condition of ulavery he bought bad ,i affy col while d itrab aim into that it VII / kbi !abet latar Isle 1