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PARLI4hLIATART PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF LORDS, MONDAY, APRIL Mr. Adtm was heard fnf tilt Rcfpander.t, and Mr. Alexander ter the Appell-ut, in the &tits Counter Appeal, Aber:tomb) . sgainit EWr itr.ne fleming. Thiele Mt ma Trate', renee Service DIII, ai.d. two Private .16.1. brought from the Commons, and read a firft time. an& Bar Improvement Rill was rod a fceond time, and tedollesial to a fele& Committee. The other Bills on the Table wrre forwarded, and the Honk ad journed till tomaorrow at a quarter pit three o'clock, ter which bout th: Lords were ordered to be furnmowed, to receive the Re port of the Volunteer Bill • HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER having tat en tbc Chair; atter private bufioefs bad been <bloated of, Sir JOHN NEWPORT rule to fay, that about three weeks finer, be bad moved for a Return to b.: made by the 'Era urea of coun ties in Ireland to that Houre—he underitood no fueh Return had yet been made He rote now to give notice. that, on this day fe'noight, if the Return ordered was not produced in the interim, he Should move ass order to enforce It. An °Seer from the Navy Board prefer red an Account of the number .1 Artificers now eirsployed in his Majelty's dock-yards. .Ordered to lie on the table. EILEEN CURRENCY IN MILANO. Mr. CORRY rote to mention, that a notice which had been given to the Houk, of *motion to be fubmitted to its confederation cm this Cubic& bad bees pultponed to this day, in expeetation of the arrival of row neeeffary documents from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. He bad now the pteafure to acquaint the Houk that document. had been received front his Excellency of fuels a nature Into render unneceffary any Aa of Legifistion upon the fubje.l, aad Dub ineafures had ben taken by his Majefty's Minifters, by and with the advice of the Privy Council, upon this lattice, on which they had long continued to deliberate, and of which they bad never loft light, no effettually to provide a remedy amply erom inenfiarate to every exigency of canting occafi on. SIiNSION LIST. Sir ROBERT BUXTON rote and obierved, that, as it was highly Important to that eloufe, and the country a; tante, to be acquainted with the name and public deferts of the G-reral perfons who were dittinguithesi by the public bounty of the Crown. in thole petitions which formed in conildcrable a part of the public charges of the nation, be fbould move. that there be UM before the Houle, a Lift of the Nantes of Polonu to whom Pcnlions are granted, payable at the Exchequer ; the amount of each l'enlion serrealvdy; and the date when granted.--Orderral accordingly. - • --- •YL/IBVRY ILFCTION Sir GEORGE COR' e iEWALL moved the Order of the Day for the fecund reading of the Bill for the better Prevention of Bri bery and Corruption in the Borough of Ay eitury. The quetlion being pit, The Marquis of TITCHMELD role to oppofe the further pro ceedieg on the 11111; fiat, beeauft he did not think the advocates of the Bill had na.de out a cafe fulEciently itrong to warrant the adoption of loch a mosfure, which went to punier indifeinninetely all the Electors of Ayklbury, for the alledged crime of only a por tion althea); and fondly, bemire the ch age was only dated to be Etbftatitiated apinft a few, compared with the number who Chimed the right of voting. Fur the prelent the Noble tvlarquis did not (edit necedary toilet.: any farther arguments upon it, hut con cluded with moving an amendment, that Intl cad of the words' be now mad," there be infested eke minis. this slay three montha" SirIOHN NEWPORT waratly fupported the BM. He con tended it was a meafureakfohitely neetfin y to mark the juft indig nation of that Houle againft the god; and flagitious delinquency of the Borough of Ayiefbury, and the infamous inftaiices of the molt foul and atrocious corruption openly carried on with the Eleaors of that Borough at the late Flettion, in defiance of the laws, in the atoll flagrant prollitotion of eleCtloneering tea:tell:lea It appeared from the reports of their Committee, to whole canfideration the merits data Ekition had been referred, that three hooks in the town had been opened for the palpable and avowed purpoks of hit t:wry and corruption; that upwards of two hundred oldie Elofturs had received the bribes, not only done but of all the Candidates ; that they Wed their names to an addrels, foheiting a Candidate, whom they had never known or Peen, to (tend for their Borough, ' fbr no other purport than to mite the market, and enhance the price of corruption; that ill the public room where thole men en tered for the purpoe of rtesi, 'mg thee {waste. there was a bowl of rat one cud of the table, and a howl of guineas at another. a Moving mentioned a variety of other hill:then of 'a like name, he laid it was inviable for Parliament to pars uummillied a rate of huh foul corruption, ft; utterly awns ious to the fpirit of our Con *button and the purity of the Commons, without abandoning both, and furniliting new and throng armnsents for reformers out et doors ; when the belt and molt whold ' unte Ipecies of ref rot was already in the power of the Houle ilia, by choltiox in the hat in- Ranee, and branding, by the ninth exen•pLary puninunent, every het flagitious intlacce of corruption, as that which marked out the )lernagh of Aylefbury, as a fit example to d net other lloraughi :runt selling with loch hofenefs, and proftinotmt to bribery the cordiou dotal trait repofed in the electors: be therefore fupported the Bill Mr HUM!' Polly agreed in the fentlments of the Hon. Baro net, as to the juitlee and neeetfity of exemplary punithment to he perfons aftually gunned fads tool and flagitious corruption as that which has been muted, and to this the law of the land was already competent to the fall extent necellary,'f, far as utterly ilisiran chifing, and mai:tins by bevy penalties, the perfons who Ihould be proved guilty thereof, and cgainft whom proCecutions were at this moment carrying en. But he never could agree to mania) the Innocent indiferimin wady with the guilty, in fubverfion to the mild, jolt, and ceallautienal fpirit of our laws, as would he the inevi table tired of a Bill that mull • vemtually Ci.franehife the innocent, honourable, honelt, and to.off ;Ain Phelan of Ayleibury and thew poftwity, merely for the :nine, of the guilty. lord OSSUISTONE, w hat ever mi g ht be his fentiments of the Bill, underftood I; was the le ion to throw open parfaits in the hundreds furroundies , the Eormgh of Ayldbury, which, in his mind, fo far from remedying wujiti rather pmmote the evil com plained of, as it would kt In the rttits of eledion to a defcription of perfors without property, and certainly mare mica to the terip tattoo of bribery than thole already charged with it; betide, he did not think that Aylgifiiury was fo very fir.mlar. and infulated casr, as to call for peculi distranchilemont (~r a Ipecac' of cor ruptions of which initancm were unhappily but too numeroui ellewbere. If the Nr.file lewd would brirg forward any general meakre for the more effectual prevention of bribery and conup don, and fpecilically declare any degree of fuck deiltopiency, which &wild hereafter fubjett a borovg4 to ilisfranchifirsent, he mould have no ohjecton to fupport it. hit GEORGE COaNFAVAI.I. fpoke in fawner of the 11111, and argued that the portio., of corrupted votes appeared to be as Iyt to 37, and (aid hr divide the Hook agal n the amehdricat. Sir ROUERT BUXTON fupported the Ball, and Mr. P. MOORE (poke agaiolt it. 14a contended that the law was already (tailor/y(ll . one to punifh the dtLnquency of the agalnli whom the sitarge could be en.dillfbed, adalnit whom adlinna were this rinencnt In fult for penalties to the amount oda million fterlioy. Mr. FRANCIS (puke agaluft the Dill, acid Mr. Grenfell in (apron of it. The MASTER of t 1 ,.. ROLI.C, eruifidcrable kneel, and with much ability, 0ppa...1 ..c is •. totally agalidt the r b w iple o r she hir.e eine for r..e of the guilty. It vapid raying a itl ,, y; ISt,: ~dead, to lee that no, e 0,.. may forfeit a franchlfe her the a.lt tut t; n.•uld be fay ang a much Reneger to alledy , . a realm ity tortAt for the. fault of a minority. The pr. audit of this:Ail did tot ev, n fiat, t h, pr ion oldie Aykdbury whether clbrct-t .ottb.., one kali, or one third, who had inecri,i that f,. fur width It was the purpe of this P.ll t o On this point the preindilr, left !h• !I iu! • to i•s trey:dia. they might either mkt . . that th. • hi d "pm t hr ee fourth .4 the Heelers, or a few slresdy was fug ficiently arcing to r;:ra.h the ▪ y.nice. by heavy hoes and utter disfraneSticenert..-6..: in his smut: I! would be an alarming ntice indce I to tl.e I' ot te. ry fli.rotiyh In M. that for the dt bop,.-en -t yr who thould fccr.tly or openly fubrott t•i 1,-••••7•' Gr rotrurion, the lallar - mittla 11110- ray Rena be dsprivid :1 the.• under an Arl of this fort. -ssflais would lude..l '•., ,r put it into the hand, of the reformer. out of doors to effr. - ! !...r oven prlrporr,. anal by mere trick and tnannimment, per-ire dtaranthilement of every llormayb in she kingdom; and thua,at st were, hold out a premium to bt 'Dery sad conniption. Ebr r.% a! WAR (bake in rapport a the Dill, and (.id the pr, Atight eptdi be tried to tate mi r e the Din would bear when it rant , : nut of the f.:sionawr re. Mr. Seerant 13 ES r Cupportsd the areumenti of the Malley co the II ato , the prefer,/ w.. the mi.P. in.propm (salon a' vslistla Such a hail coral De muoducol, as If it woe poltik foe the the aho Hatife to adept it, its diredt tendency intild be to prejudge anion* twig pemliug to the Amount of a million of money, and involve the utter ruin of many families. Sir WILLIAM YOUNG fupported the Bill, upon the princi ples of the Grenville Ads, which gave to Committees emanating from that lioufe, the authority to propofe and recommend nu., fares for the punillirnent and future prevention of filch flagrant in ftanem of corruption, as thoie which juftitied the introduction of the meafure before them. . . Mr. Serjeant BEST explained. Mr. FOX, in a few words, exprelTed his opinion that there was no fair neculity fur the Bill. He could fee no rearm why the cafe of the Borough of A lethery (hoold be taken out of the general ' rule, and nut left to t`ie operation of the etilling laws to punith bribery arid eorrm non. Mr. W. SMITH gave his concurrence to the Bill, and contra dieted the Ratement of the Learned Serjeant, that the penalties toot for amounted to any thing like a million, as be had repre rented . The I loufe divided on the Marquis of Titchfield's amendment. li Againtt it 69—For it 48—Majority at. On the motion of Sir ROBIAT aux - roN, it was ordered, that Counfel Mould be heard at the Bar on Wednefday neat, for the Petitioners againft the Bill. Several Members were added, CM motion, to the Committee on the Corn Petitions. Lord FOLKSTONE moved for " an Account of the Number and Names of C-irains in the different Regiments of Militia. who were not poffeilcd on • certain dry of the ufual qualifications." His Lordihip alfo mowed for the produdlion of tome other papers. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEgiI obferved, tha (rime of the papers moved (or by the Noble Lord, were on the Fable, and that the others would be produced as form as poffible. Mr. YORKE brought op a Bill for the more fpredlity fupplying and facilitating the filling up of vacancies in the Militia. Sir JOHN WROTTEiLEY hoped. that an indemnity to Offi cer, who had reeved. or were (erring, without qualifications,would mike part of that Bill. They were by the e sifting Laws fubjedl to a penalty of toot again( the exadtion of which he thought they ihould be proeedted. The Bill was read a firß time; and on the motion of Mr. YORKE, ordered to be read a fecond time to-morrow. Mr. DENT withdrew his notice of the motion refpedting the Loyalty Loan, which flood for this day; and after fume comer (anon with the Chancellor of the Exchequer, chef= was renewed by the Hon. Member for Tue(day fi'onight. Ma. DRAKE'6 SUPPOSED COIRESPONDINCE. Lord MORPETH raid, that he trolled the Houle would excufe him for deviating a little from the rules of debate and particularly as the fubjeet, upon which he would occupy a (mall portion of its time, was one in which the honour and chara!ter of the country were materially involved. He alluded to the foul imputation that had been endeavoured to be call on the Government and its reprefentative, by a recent publication in a French official paper. To the cir• cumftances of that tranfa&ion, he thought it beneath him to advert, as long as they had been confined to the foul and malignant pages of the Moniteur ; and while they only tended to demonitrate the rancour -of the French Government, he thought it was the bell and moil dignified courfe to treat them with I (dent (corn. But the papers purporting to be a cor fpoodence between the Biitilh Envoy Extraordinary at Munich, and a perfon refiding at Paris, have been r officially Communicated by the French Minifter to the different Ambaffad a s in that city, and the ho nour of the nation has been impeached upon unlub llantiated falls, improbable in their nature, unproved, and, he confidently trolled, not to be,proved. 'Co thofe communications acknowledgments bad been made, of fome diverfity in their tenor, but moll of them certainly adopting and fanetioning, in a greater or leffer degree, the foul reproach that had been call nn the Britilh charaaer ; and in the degraded (tate in which the greater part of the Courts of Europe was placed, the Reprefentative of the Conn of Raf fia was the only one of the Diplomatic Body who did in his anfwer exprefs any doubt of the faCt.— Some of the Ambaffadors to whom that communi cation was made did certainly go to very extraordi nary lengths in their replies to the French Minifter, and fuels as he fhould hope wouldbe found to deferve the =lure of the different powers they remelt:m.- 1 - 1 e particularly alluded to the anfwer of the Repre fentative of a Power who had flirting from the fame )puree with ourfelves, v..ho!e language was the fame, and whole interetis, he trotted, were not oppofed to each other. (A !cud cry of Hear ! bran .' ) He was furry to fee fentiments to derogatory from the honour of the Britiffi charaCter, received with furls pliant facility, by the ReWent of a Power that fhould have knessn bow to appreciate our national character, in a more friendly and favourable way. He had no motion to make, but he thought it incumbent on Minillers to tither difavow or exculpate Mr. Drake, and to prove to Europe, and to the world, that they have not 4. pointed the dagger of the aflaflin." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQJT ER— a Mr. Speaker, 1 rife to exprefs my unfeigned obli gations to the Noble Lord for affording to his Ma jelly's Minilllrs an opportunity of repelling the foulcft and moll infamous charge that has ever pro. ceeded from a Government claiming to be confidered as part of the civ:li Lad world ; a charge the moll unfounded and diabolical, urged by a Government the moll fanguinary and tyrannical, for the foie purpofe, I implicitly believe, of giving a colour to the commilfion of crimes the molt heinous and atro cious that have ever ditgraced and blackened human nature. As to the imputation that the author and perpetrators of that foul clime have attempted to throw on his Majefly's Government, it is almoll be neath their dignity to conderiend to refute it; but I think it my duty to (late to this Houle, and to the civilized world, that nn authority has been given, that no inftruttions hive been traufmitted to the Engin Minifier at the Court of Munich, to engage in or undertake any thing that was not ftriAly con latent with the molt fcrupulous oblervance of the rights of nation., and what perhap•, is paramount to them, the duties of humanity. After having laid thus much, I hope it will not I): expiAed of nit that I fhould fay any thing mote in reply to tt at molt Talk, fcandalous, and maligin,nt impotatir.n. As to the correfpnndence to which Lord has alluded, it is impoilible for me to cater upon that lubjeß, until lonic commirnication Eill have been received from the honourable per fou wi.n has beer. fo infamoufly attacked in it—a Gentleman for whole eh:trailer I, perhapw, th!•.k and am cer tainly as folicitous, as the Noble Lord or any ore io Lhe kingdom can be. 1 f..irc rtka cnni;Jcr.ce, that :he mote the p31:1 condua arc cl.piied ,nto, the m tLc pt.v:iety i , Le. (4, I !AVC tI and thc Otit grounds to fuppofe) moil impudent and infa mous fabrication. As form as his Majcfty's Govern• meat (hall have received the communications they cape& from Mr. Drake, the Noble Lord may be af lured they will not fail to adopt the molt effeitnal matures for affertiiig and maintaining the honour of the country. Ima again exprefs my obligations to the Noble Lord, for affording me an opportunity of difpelling the anxiety of the country upon a fubjeft, the honour of its reprefentative, for which they en• tcrtain all that laudable jcaloufy that befits a great and high.minded nation." IRISH ►IILITIA BILL. The Order of the Day being moved for the third reading of the Bill for Augmenting the Militia of Ireland, Mr. CALCRAFT role to (misfire the Speaker's leaving the Chair. He defended the Refolutions of the Colonels of Militia who had affembled at the Thatched Houfe, agamll the cenfure to which he un• derftood they had been expofed. He thought they were drawn fo clearly and explicitly, that it was not poffible to mifunderfiand them. It was Rated in the& Refolutions, that deliberation by armed Welles was dangerous and unconftinitional ; that it was neither more nor lets than the law of the land He con demned the plan of the Secretary at War for the augmentation of the public force as impolitic and imprafticable; and he principally objetled to it as tending to raife that fpecies of competition in the different branches of the recruiting fervice, as would render it impoffible for us ever to acquire a confider able difpofabk force. Sir WILLIAM ELFORD oppofed the Bill, and principally that part of it which went to provide for the creation of this force, by a bounty to be paid out of the Exchequers of the United Kingdom. He thought a Fencible force mach preferable to it, in afmuch as it was equally efficient, and wu sash*. ble to the conilitutional objetions to which the Bill before the Houfe was fabjeCt. Mr. PITT obferved, that exclufive of any idea of trenching on the independent character of the Mili tia, he thought that the very nature of the Army of Referve was fuch as made it more eligible to be increafed than any other branch of limited fervice, particularly on account of its being, officered by re gular officers from the line. Yet it appeared that the Army of Referve AEI was to be fufpended. He thought that, while we had better means fur the augmentation of our difpolable force, it would have been fitter to refort to thole means. But lie defired it to be exprefsly underftnod, that in voting againit the Bill for the increafe of the Irilh Militia, he by no means meant to objeet to any augmentation of the force of the Empire in any other way. Lord CASTLEREAGH obferved, that his Right Honourable Friend attached more confequence to the fulpention of the Army of Referve Aet than it was entitled to. With refpett to the recruiting in Ireland, he could affect from experience and local knowledge that the frith people could not be induc ed to eater into regular regiments, at the fame time that they would very readily agree to fcrve in Mi litia regiments commanded by Gentlemen belonging to the county in which they lived, and to whom they were frequently attached in the ftrongeft man ner ; arid when they were a little time in the Militia fer rice, and became filed to a foldier's life, they would have nu objeEtion to extend their fervices. Mr. BA NKES argued with great force againft the Bill. It was admitted on all bands that what was now wanted was an augmentation of our dil• potable force, and he could not help confidering it as a moll extraordinary meafure to propole the aug mentation of that defcription of our force which was nut even pretended to be difpolable, according to the terms of their original agreement. He law no thing in the meafure which could have the effect of facilitating the objea in view ; and looking at it in a military light, he could not give it his approbation. He (fleeted to it alto on the ground that it would expole this country to an expence inconfillent with the principles of the Union. By the principles of the Union, this country was to pay twofevenths of the whole expence if the empire ; bot he faw no reafon why a meafure of thi, kind could be farm tioned, even on the idea of loch a proportion of ex pcnditurc. Lord CASTLEREAGH explained, and fail, it was intended to fulpend ihe operation or the Army of Referve Ait, in a certain degree. and to take from the counties which were deficient in their quota,, a mod,rate fine in licit thereof ; but not to Infpend the recruiting, even fur that fervice, at a bounty inferior to that for the regiments of the line. Mr. WINDHAM contended that no anfwer had been given to the nbjeCtions urged againft the mea lure. It the Noble Lord who (poke Lilt (Lord Cal tlereagh) were allowed to have all the Net. and po fitions which lie had laid down admitted, it would not, he agrees!, be eat) , to deny his conelufinn. He, however, felt it his duty to prowl againft the mode in which the Noble Lord had rcaloned en the tub. jea. It had been consended by tire Noble Lord that there at prefent exiited no means of recruiting the Regular Army, or filling lip the vacancies in the Army of Referve. This was, therefore, the refort of Milliner s to fupply the exilling deficiencies. With this admirfron, two queilions naturally prefented themfelvcs. Was it politic to augment the Militia at all ; or, if the policy of fuch an augmentarion was admitted, was the expediency of augmenting it in Ireland allowed ? It really was not eafy to lee what was the objeli of Mini tiers on thi; or any other fobjat. They held nut as their great end by the prefent nteafure to augment our ti:firnfable force ; hut they hd this merely by angtner.ting the Militia. They were vet y loud it: their prukitions of a with to augment the troops of the lint. But how did they attempt to verify the profellir•ns ? Why, by fending user, poll bade, an order to Leland to increafe the Mrlit:a, after they had declared that tlley wifhed to rail.: in the fame country a certain number of new tc;•:rlar regiments. This was not very liugular in their mode of proceeding. They were ctitiltantly their or.o antagottias. All their plans wet.: court tetaaed liar awn exertions. %1 het ever they aelcd, their own fpa:ites arm:led do ni. They ad. nutted that our 1:c as alit- aly trio great. %Ye had four Lc idied th:•nftnJ soluuteets. ieveray thotaand AA v . ,. or might base had, r a cy thowand ut t:..! Ar try I'.. fet cc Bu. this acknowledged &feet was to be remedied b y an addition of ten thoufand to a fpccies of force allow ed on all fides to be larger than the eireumilances of the country required. The Right Honourable Gen tleman added a variety of other obfervations, wilts the view of (hewing that this plan of augmentation was totally inconfiflent with the acknowledged de clarations of Minillers, that we ought to attend chiefly to the improvement of our regular army.— Minilier., however, fecrned to be totally abforbed in the contemplation of the completion and increafe of' the Militia. With the Militia they began, and with the Militia they appeared determined to end. Their condu.t in this intlance reminded him of a poet of antiquity (Anacreon), who determined to over come his exchifive attachment to love.. He endea voured to celebrate the labours of heroes, but Rill his lyre would found nothing but love. So it was with Miniflers. They attempted to do fomething for a regular army, but fill the Militia came in to difcos- • eta all their fchemes. It was not cafy to find any thing more ftrongly to exprefs his idea of the opinior s of bEnillers, fo far as the military fyllem of the coun try was concerned. He bad heard of a lady who told a perfon who vifited her, that he had loft all idea of a Gentleman. Minifters appeared equally to hare loft all idea of a regular army, and they were, in his estimation, the only Minifters whofe opinions on thus fubjeft were Co coefuled, heterogeneous, and abfurel. Mr. Secretary YORKE laid, that Co far from his !deletes Miniflus kerning to be determined not to have a regular army, as the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Windhatn)bsd espregeritiitnielf in the conchs— non of his fpeech, he fhonlesnly mention, what had been often takes notice oflately is that Houfe, that the army was greater at this moment than it ever was at an equal period in any former war. In point of feet, the regular army was never a popular met fare in this country. The plan which had been al ways adopted was to reduce it at the end of every war. The force propofed to be railed by this Bill Anwerskrissiledged by thofe who had experience of Ireland, to be the belt that could be adopted in the prefent lituat ion of the country, and would leaf of all interfere with the regular army. Ireland had, as yet, contributed lef4 to the augmentation of the army than its proportion, when compared with Great Bri tain. Of xo,ooo Militia, 113,000 only were railed in that country at this moment : of to,ooo men for the Army of Referee, only 7,000 had been procured.-- Ireland had, therefore, a great number of men yet to furnifh. There were a great many men of pro. petty who would come fatal and endeavour to aug ment the Militia at the bounty propofed, who would not enter into any other kind of ferviee. He was convinced, that by the influence of fuch leading Gen tlemen in Ireland, the force propofed by the Bill could be Coon railed without at all interfering with the recruiting of our regular army, Mr. FOX laid, he had. formerly given his opinion of the general plan of defence which bad been adopt ed, and he had liltened with attention to all that had been Paid by others upon the fu'oje4t. if 10.000 men were actually propofed to be railed for a limited (cr ake, he would ask, why Giould it be for sbe tlfruort poflible limited fervice ? We were placing otufelvee in a very uhimfical fittration. Of 20.000 militia in Ireland, we were to bring to,ooo to this country. while. as to the other to,ooo, we were making rid provifion or engagement at all. He wanted to know on what principle it was not alto propofed to enter into a fimilar engagement with die new lev".% la had been anfwered that they could not be railed Co . cheaply ; then why not raife them as Fencibles? The mode of railing this propofed augmentation was by making an addition of 3o men to each company.-- What was to become of the regiments which might chance to be in this country ? Were their companies of feventy men to be inereafed to one hundred ? and were the thirty additional men to be left in Ireland, or to join the others in England They mull, undoubtedly, be railed on Come fpecific agree- ment, in order to procure their voluntary acqui efcence. While it was laid that Fencibles could not be procured to come to this country at a bounty of four guineas, how were we to get the militia to extend their fervites at that rate ? Notwithfteoding all the briaft of voluntary Cervices, Minifters teemed afraid to broach the fubjet to the new levies, and appear ed inclined to troll, that when men had been induced to enlift into a regiment which had extended its (era vice, they alto would not refufe an equal extenfion. The foundation of the plan Teemed to be the propofed furpenfion of the Army of Referee Aet ; and while ' Ishnitters thus took one fyfterri out of the market, fo as not to interfere with the Regular Army, they ' immediately add to,bco men by a mode which will 1 interfere, more or lefs, with that very fervice, bt preventing its rapid increafe. 1 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ob• ferved, that the privates would molt probably be difpofed to join their comrades, and tben the force wnald fo far be augmented. tt had been afked,why Fencibles were not railed inflead of Militia ? but it should be recollelled, that during the hilt war the Fencibles were i.ot railed for general fervice to all parts of the kingdom. The mode of railing the Mi litia had a peculiar facility growing out of the natu ral influence polkaed by gentlemen in their own vicinity, which was far greater than any other mode that could be adopted, and it bad been partici:- tarty found fo in Ireland. There was likewife a eery conliderable difficulty in procuring officers for FeneZ. ble Corps, which was by no means the cafe with the Militia. The objeft of this Bill was to provide a Militia equal to that provided during the Lill war ; it created a force of ten thoufand men, to be mile,/ with far greater difpatch, and to be difciplined in a much quicker way than any other defcription of force. That an increafe of difpnfable force was ur gent no one could deny ; but it was alto urgent to confider the facility of its application. The Hon. Gentleman had dated. that this meafure would in. terfere with the recruiting of the regulars; Co it might be thought upon general reafoning, but thofe Gentlemen who were moil ennverfant with Ireland were of opinion, that it would operate upon different difpofitions and claffes from thole upon whom the recruiting frilem operated, and by a comparifon of the levies of different years, it would appear that no niatei variation was likely to take place. At the end of the hit war, it would be blond, that of the ae,c- , c) Militia, then difhanded. very few entered into tl:c army. The prefumption, therefore, was, that it WAS a ii.tlrrent clefs of the people on whom this Inca er . opetnte, from thole who (slated in the TI li V