The Express. — London, England, 1850-06-15 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—Patna; Juin 14. The house mot at 6 o'clock, Lord LAWODALI sat Bleaker. PUBLIC MOUSES 18COTLAND) BILL. Os the matins of Lord KLIISAIILD this hill wee read mad time. CHANCERY COURT OF APPEAL BILL. Lad BROUGHAM said the ablest sl this bill. wit" lased ior mooed reeding, wae sot new atheir lordehive. He had Wee. introdueed it is the year 1633, bet the imbeds of Mown sad WEN of hie legal nimbi, who. advice he had takes. WON 110 t the made up. Lord Bees* sad Lord Can had samplaiated is their time of the arrears is Chummy, and stated that so mat was the Warms that se Lord Chameellor and Meter of the Rik could get tharsegh It. Bet the smears this VIM sot et.-fifth part so numerous se they were sew ; and yet, at the billeting of the 17th 'eatery, it was said by than great men that the amestat of week to be dem was greater than ay two ma Meld assemplish. The Levi Chaseellar lad to reside La the Court el Chassary ter ten mesthlt the ;66 had ales to sit is their 7 simaks , ; 66 d to bd Ilti•fiediii• zgy a erisdietios true MI the court. of law sad eq , Ireland, mad Modena, the two latter haviag" singe the time of Lard Hams and Leal Coke. 'Tip ni also a Goblet mishear if he weight sued anikerletjitli kis sovereign sad his aflesg; was, meraime, • peteit ofieseillor and the chief &Meter eljustim Me M mdse the erown is the appointment of the judits, Mr ',intim he was responsible. All marten of sow amS erissiaal justice were name sr lees seder hist Mimi. The duties of the adze were eo great oft ISiserly so deans eis:d be had wider lour or flat Oat. He bad endeavoured to pet over the urea- and bad Wilted Mall, to 'Sot this object, an :onion w hich a tam Auld sit make a sward time io his life, sad fie which lllallg. Oteleshsta aced Lord Lyadhurst had give him mere Credit thus Ise deserved. Me had 11113 succeeded in redsolag the impels is their lord ships' horse. Ile would sow proceed is state the reasons why he did not intend to go is Wok the bill before their loedskips. Something must be dose as relieve the individual who held the alike of Lord Ckaaasiler, ar d it had been said that it would be as easy thirst so separate the tquitable jarisdietion from the appellate ad political funetiens of the Lad Chancellor. It wee mid you have *ray to sppoint a shiefjudge is equity, who is to be a chancellor, minus the Court of Chancery. Now, he admitted that there was mach plawib.lity is this, but he was sot prepared to give his m eant to it without further inquiry. TM» must amessarily be as appeal from the Master of the Rolls ad the Vise-Chas allots. [Seri the noble l ird observed some members of the salutary os the treasury beaches in conversation.] If sable lords opposite would not lines to what he was argy les, be slight as well atop, for he was addrewire himself to them and they misht glean some information from ha stee l...let which would be of me to them. He Was Laying there Rua ands be seem repeal is the Comas of Chaocery. At wow it lay frcm the inferior judges to the Lied Coattail ler, ad them was so dilleulty, because that fasetionary was at the head of the jeers, ass motroutly of greet evanesce is hie Milileioo. Bill 'appose Ma sew thief judge is equity to be rely another Vim-Chancellor with a higher as.. sad a mesewhat larger salary, the difilealty would be very great as to how they were to arrasge as appeal from the Master of the Hells or the VittoZbasselkere to bin; it would be seedy the mom Oleg. awl the appeal wonlei be compass. Simi; worthless. 'nosy 11110, themiere, driven to the expos dint of making a Court of .4.! peel in the Coat of Chancery, composed of the other.' wipes, just as Mere wee now an appeal from the Courts of Common Law to the Exchequer Chamber ea a writ of error. It wee impossible to deny that the safety of the administration of justice depended en the union of great judicial power. - sad imtrgrity on the heath and ability ia the practitioam of the bar. Hyde these 'egoists' must be combined to give • pare, satisfactory, end able %don, ttttt ion of justice. (Hear hear ) But that, in his opinion. was bound up with sootier thing. namely, the high dike of the great seal, and the exalted and eranecen dental functions of the dignitary who filled that office— (lna, hear)—and if they did anything which should lower that office—which should obscure the splendour of that eta flon—if they took away from the bar that prize, now in prospece, which quickened and invigorated every min who pat as the rob of an advocate, oven doss to the encase, bat pinatas sad meritorious special pleader and equity draftsmas—if they took sway from them the prospect of wising that great eminence which now soothed their labours and emoted them ander their temporary privations, and nastuitly renewed disappointments in practice, if thole lordships took that away, and the members of that learned pressen§ belonged no loaner to • body of which the Illas• trious chief (the Lord Chancellor) wee at the'llead,—if *try were ma 'a to feel that they no longer termed part of a body si adorned, so fortfied, end so exalted, he was certain that tee elms of practitioners at the bar would be lowered, sad that they would lower in prooartion the body from which the judges themselves must be thane. (Hear, bear.) It was also to be considered that the Lord Chancellor was the head of the judges: they gone, it was true, by a light' of their own. but also net a little by the reflection of his splendour. If noble lords who were making so muck win at the end ot it • hone would go into the Cent a Chancery to bold their COIISTIlt!iON they would and it perfectly quiet. Ho wield not speak in the midst of ouch a noise. To resume his arma ment, be might say that there could not tat a greater differ ent* between the duties of the Canceller in the Court of Chancery, and those which be had to perform in that hone, where he had the power of eating is the equity Ind common law judges to he his satemon on tho woolsack. Da't let it be suppssed for • moment that say evil would arias from the great seal being put into COM. mission. It was in commission eight months in 1835, but since 1835 they had bad two additional vice-chancellors appointed, so that there would be still the same number a courts as there were &fare 1842, when there was only a Matter of the Rills sad one vice-chancellor. What be should suggest was this—take the long vacation, sad enter on the inquiry with a strong desire to arrive at the bast result, and do all this in a calm temper when the voles of party was hashed, when the kmaiol the commons was no fame hoard. lie was sure he was flattering, he was sure he was wimpliment.ng them when he compared the H one a Commons with so industrious as newt as the bee, with • little sprinkling of the drone and the wasp among them. He should say *hes elms to this question when the hem and the noise of parliamentary onfliat were at am end. Take time for deliberation, for maturing your plans, and, above all, (or isqulry. Well. then, how wen they to determine k ? His plan would be this—have a commission ^f four or five learned persons, and let them call before teem all the learned judges, all the clerks is Chancery—a most able, worthy, and independent body 01 men, who were strongly impressed with the idea that some such change must take place. Let them enatine these gentlemen, and he was morally certain that a body of evi dence would be gathered which would guide their steps with angering safety. He rejoiced that his noble woad and former colleague the bead of her Majesty's government had taken up this qnstion. In conclusioa the noble lord moved that the order of the day be discharged. The order was then disclose/ad accordingly. DISTRESS FOR RENT (IRELAND) BILL. The Karl of LUCAN moved that the house go into eon- Wine on this bill, and said from the general support he es mind on • former «Ago° he did not anticipate that awe would be any objection. The Earl of CARLISLE said he must oppose the motkm, especially as there west bids before the House of Comatose which, to a great degree, redressed the grievances em llaned of by the noble lord. He suggested to the noble ord to ennead the bill on the present occasion. If he would not, he must call on their lordships to oppose the bill. The Earl of LUCAN acceded to his lordship's sweeties, and the bill then paused through committee pro forest ENCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL. The Marron of WEITMEATH moved that ths hones moles itself into isommittso on this bid. The Esti of CARLISLE said additional clauses were proposed which he eertain'y should not accept. Attar what the Miter night, it was not t►e intenion of her 'sty'e government to offer any farther opposition to the II it now stood; but t►e amendments wen entirely fresh matter. The 11arquis of WESTMEATH rid he wanted to stop the Eacurchered Esters Commission Iran phis( away estates. That commission was now *dually confiscating the LIT:y of the conefry. Earl of CARLISLE suggested that the noble marquis should take one stags of the bill now, sad that they should dinars the amendasests a'terwards. Tie inrq au of WESTMEATH acceded to this sag potion. (H.u.) The bill then ward throush committee pro forma. The Marquis et WESTMEATH said ►e should moss the third reading of the bat on Tuesday, and should thus intro duce the amendments. AUBTEALIAN COJLONIBB BILL. The hires;ll — en meat tato committee on thin Oa claws 30 Wag proposed Lord 8 TANLIIIf repast= the objectifies he urged a few =triage ago to it, find the less iollowiag clauses relating to the gam* amiably. sad wad that they be expunged from the bill. He admitted that there might be several sub. Note of coma= tater= as which it was desirable that the =leaks should hare en opportunity of coming to a common nadentaadiag la la the eau of the North American colonise , but there were may other rebinds ea which their triers= would be widely different and distaat, sal it was on easee n t of the power given by those classes to do* with those interests, as if they were sot so that he objected to Mem They in fact gen power to the mineral assembly or to one mkey to overbear altagotkor the *tenets of the rest. It should be recollected tam this was aot legiolatirg for isle. sin immediately adjoialag soak other, but /or a toes of =natty rot less than the whole tapes, W Bartme, with sumo as distinct, and with agriculture end ether envier meats as wholly different, as say two mumerios of Ifiesops. Be should therefore move that the dams@ hem 10 be it imissire be expunged. He wadi set mow Winds deem 36_ L t• which be alio objertelout it relatsd to a wholly dillireat question. He raised Mae* sew to the elegem Marla( to the neutral asseashly. Bail GREY htped their Medal., mould set adept the ameadsent. Thaw *wee teem goegmed under a smasio- Ilea *their necessity, sad OM share womanises interests amongst the different mismias Auollealla whisk maim to be immediately considered by mars mamma body. He was, therefem, penoaded that *Whin maid Mad mews to the advastege of Wei colonies thus the astahliokkg of some sash petrel body as was proposed by this bill. • slash, ea eol:i could hardly constit u t e as effective mart ef appee/, bet Maid together by seem general assembly they That wee ea important object to be wined. The delegates were to be chosen by and the general sionally was °sly So ant for those osioake that mama* is acacias ffsr tr. (Boer, A It was mry likely that at first it meek may act for hew Beath Weiss ask,Victeria. The noble earl that reseeded to combat the objection that too reachj weight would be gives to impetus* preelhow. He by of their lordships, before they Melted theme clause, to remember bow Wingate were the relation be tween thee coheir. New South Wales and Vietorie as they harm ' were a single wileay, mad the MilMilpeommi to esatieoethem es ace. The line which divided t was merely imaginary, sad It was alleolately amensery to }midi scam simple mesas by which those coleedee maid immemoMi cam topther at immures la which they hog a Mataleit Won't. Lord HILARNCLIFFII said that, netwitbehmding his ',Wiegman to sawn the *Ale earl (Grey) in ether parts of this bill. be ea theaght rise was (reit hiss fa the co gnises, mei by the =lie lord (Smoky). Ha esteeteleod starers iffileffilea le ma goommeare legislation or the bill exhibited, end timed it theimbie that this portion of the bill should be posilpeasill to two fame period when the hones might he beam able to judge of the mentimesto of the wrimedele en the subject diem they were at prearet. Hid OHANVILLH au et @vision that the effect of the elate bad less milempgroheade& beams its real Mantles wee, thee snob M the eolealee should hem the option of mad log delegates to the Harrel ametaWy. He defended the right of tier Majesty I. seamen be mamba her undoubted prerogative with rehrease to the asedillostion or alteratios of the seastitutioa of her mimics. After a few remarks Ina the Earl of HARSOWDT, who was nearly inaudible is the gallery, Earl GREY observed that clause 32 very clearly deltoid the °limes for widish the assembly were to meet. Lord RINNAIRD was opposed to the simple Amber, fearing that the idea, would endeavour very speedily to alter its constitution by gestiag rid of the minium ; and he believed it would be head very difficult to refuse their re e=preappisiag them bwaeher to wish to have the simple without the .mitres. He apprehended the* their lerdehipe might live to rue the day when they bad glues to a !artly markt population the power of framing a constitution according to their 'own views. He hoped, however, for the mho of the character of the noble earl (Grey), fur whose takets he felt personally the highest respect, that he might be mistaken Is these 'ppm herniae@ ; but, though it wee piglet for him to differ from these with whom he usually meted, he must nevertheless sup port the amendment. Lard LYTIELTON also supported the memendmeat. H. be:lived the series of elation now under discussion were op posed to the other parts of the bill, as well as to the general feeling of the colonists, who, in his opinioa, were not yet 'ripe for such a measure as the one now proposed. Their lordships dividei— For the clause it . 22-1 Oa tlie gallery being re-o;eaed. Estl GREY wu PS hie lap, giving notice that ea the report be would propose s clime to tfuo effect, that sag of the colonies incleded is the bill might unite in a federal as sembly for cattalo purpose:, to be specilltd is the ease of 'set. Load STANLEY pointed out the inconveniency, 'which, to his opinion, would arise from the delegates to this federal or moral assembly having the power of legislating only on particular subjects. Ater a few words from Lost! Whuncliffe, Earl Orgy, and Lord Rodesdale, the clause was speed to. On clams 31. Lord — BTAN — L . EY observed that soda this clause the colo nies were to be taxed at a amain per tentage on their re spective revenues for all improvements; thus, if a road or railway were established between Victoria and New South Wales, Van Dionsa's Land, wbioh would derive no benefit from it, would have to pay more than those colonies, for whom advantage it was loosed. Sir G. GREY said that that was not the intention of the clause, nor did he believe it would have that effect. The object was that for plural improvements common to all, each colony should oeatribats its fair proportion, according to its revecue. If, however, there was any doubt en the sublime, he would in•roduce a provim to remove it. The clause was agreed to, as were clauses up to 35, which gives power to Footmen and councils, with the assent of the erowo, to alter the constitution of the legislative comeil, es which _ _ . Earl UREY observed that he believed the wording of the clause intended further than he intended, and he proposed to alter it, so that the particular points on which the colonies should be at liberty to make alteration is the constitution should be defined he set of parliament. Lord STANLEY sal the alteration did not altogether I remove his objection to the clause, but he should wish to ' have the opportunity of considering whether or not he ought under, the e rcamstancu, to waive it. In reply to Lord HATBIRTON, Earl GREY explained that the effect of the clause was to give to all the colonies • general power of reforming their own constitutions, but such reforms were not to come into operation until sanctioned by her Majesty. Lord STANLEY suggested that as by this clause the, were giving to each colour the power of varying its cosset stetson, it might make some difference in regard to the elec. tins of the delegates to the !eosin' assembly. In one colony there might be one legislative body, in another two. One set of delegates might represent one chamber wholly elected another an elective belly of two ehtrobers, and a third. might represent two chambers partly elected and partly aosainated. How was this difficulty to be met? After some further discussion, the clause, with some verbal amendments, was agreed The remaining clausal were also agreed to, and the house resumed. ---- ESTATES LEASING (IRELAND) BILL. This bill, after a short ciscuuisn, went through eon matter. JUDGMENTS (IRELAND) BILL. This bail also west through oostenittoo, and their lordships this adjourned at half past 9 o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAT, Juin 14. Tao 811111111 took Om chair (is the old home) at four o'clock. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. The Sheriffs of the City of Loadon appeared at the tar, and presented a peti.ion from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City, in common council assem bled, against certain clauses of the Metropolitan Interments Bill.—Mr. LUSH INGTON. from the Society of Frands in Great Britain ; Mr. WYLD, from Cnelsea, to the same effect. MAARIAOrIi Btu...—By Mr. LUSHINOTON (8), from ineabiumits of tee matropolis; Mr. MUNTZ, from several plates; Mr. MACKINNON. from Limbed& and South wark, in favour of this bill.—Mr. OSWALD, from dissenters of Glasgow, easiest the bill. Sammie Basle Bat..—By Mr. MUNTZ, from the Pro. vident Sadety of Birmingham ; Mr. IL ADAIR, from the trustees piths Ipswich Savings Bank, spinet certain provi sions of this bill. inctoftu I.;:nora.—By Sir J. WALMSLEY, from operivivis of Bolton aad Tinton; against the sons of shifts and relate. &e. ; Lord ASHLEY (place not heard) ; Sir H. WILLOUGHBY, tress the teachers of a Sunday school ; Sir G.STRICHLAND, fro' Preston ;land Mr. DIS RAELI, Iron wend aids in Lancashire, in favour of the original tea hours bill. THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JUNE 15, 1850, with regard to the treatment of Mr. O'Brien, it WOO that of Boeing shows Mt r. tatlalgesee towards him thaa perhaps paSlie spisies Mr. 1. GRATTAN denied that then tree 'l4 law to as *cent the torture to whisk this gratlespas wu "Vowed. He lad 601. neeitted to Ma th+ purpose of bay ing tea and dukes, bat he was net 'Honed to have either. The right ken. ratlines said that this we the law of the Lad: he (Mr. Grattan) dialed that it was. The conduct of the govenusest towards Mr. O'Brien wet like their undue to the celebrated prissier of 111. Hitless, with Tigard to whoa a sebum 'cooed had boos 'ellen to deters fait if he wee to be allowed the see of a pienefortr, the nosh of whisk wee that it meld aft be Mewed. ( 1411 0blar.) THZ 811 01 MANDAN , . _ _ Mr. SORfiliAl eald dirt, in theT*4mi; of lie noble lord at the keel et Mt retersweet, b would postpone tim, question of whisk ko had riven maim torgothdes the diem et Llaadaff ; bat kir begged to give miles that he would briar the mignon beim the bon* on tie motion los pier late eseantitte• of supply, and would make a etatment en the esessies la reply to the obwinations of the sable lord— observations whisk le had meta to knew were Minded en viry famoserata laiemation. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. It twos agreed this the ham at its rising &mild adjourn till Monday. FACTORY BILL. On the queetion that the ameadmeate ea the bill be con sidered, Lord J. MANNERS presented several petitions from Bol ton, Oldham, Cahn, Preston, Bevy, sea other ?pane, in favour of a Tee Howe Bill. Lord ASHLEY thee moved the followlog amendments: Is pspe 2, lime 12, atter the word "act," to bunt "no child : and in the ems pert, line 16, after the words " provided and," to insert • no child." The effect of them amendments was, that so child eider 13 years of age should be employed before 6 o'clock in the morning, nor after 6 at night. Unless these monuments were carried, the children would be I. a relatively wens position than they were before. He considered that 6 o'clock wee too early an hour foe children to go to work, and that kalf-past 8 was too late to keep there at it. Sir O. GREY repeated the objections whisk he urged cm a former ocean= to the amendments. Under the law, es ft stood, the labour of the children could never be excessive, for they were only called on to work foe 7 hours in one partionlar ease, and 61 in anotber—tbat was to sty. there wen to be two sets of children, who were to divide the 131 hours between them. The effect of the propositimi of the noble lord was, to restrict that tins. He cossadered that the proposition imposed an important sad additional result two on the motive power of machiner!, which would pre vent the mill-wners from carry iop on any work when a pest pressure sense upon them without having remorse to youths and women. - - — Mr. AOLIONBY said that the right hon. pedestal had failed to convince him either now or on the previous meg 11-0, end he should vote for the amendment. Ile considered the whole question was re-opened, and that the factory workers had a right to the Ten Hoare Bill. Mr. 8. CRAWFORD did not think that children were sufficiently protected if they were obliged to get up at half put four, or if they were kept at work till half-past eight. He should tote for the amendment. ---------- After • few words words iraaa Mr. HOLDSWORTH, which were inanilible, Mr. BRIGHT wished to call the attention of the house and of the noble lord tr the practicel effect of the proposli irons if carried ; because, if the noble lord was as convinced of what the tit eta would be as he (Mr. Bright), who under stood something about the matter, why the noble lord would be the last person in the how' to propose the measure now submitted to it. At present children under thirteen years of age—for It was only to these that the motion applied—could not work, speaking generally, more then 61 hours a day. Now, when that great reetrietion was enacted, the result was that many hundreds—he might almost say thousands— of children, were discharged from factory employe:teat. (Hear. hear.) The reason of this was obvious, for it persons who had been in the habit of working 10,11, and 12 hours a-day were restricted to 6 rr 61 hours, they vital only ex pect half the waw a they received before ; sad thinking that too small they mouthed sway from work, and the lab sur ol pang omens was too costly to wake see el. Mr. EDWARDS should like to know Crum the hon. gen tleman what became of the children whom he said were thrown out of employment, for in Halifax, in which district he resided, it was difficult to meet with • child unemployed, and they received on the average fra. • week, which was nearly equal to what agricultural labourers in the mouth and west of England received, although they had to support a wife and family. (Rear. hear.) Sir 11. WI LLOUGIIBY wished to know If the proposi tion would not interfere with the labrur of young persona and women. Mr. T. EGERTON said that it could have no such effect, because the work on which children were employed was of a quits different description trout that on which young perms and women were employed. With respect to this amendmeat, be looked upon it as an indirect attack on the motive power of machinery and on the employment et adult labour, because the labour of children was essential to their labour. (Hear, hear.) Let them, if they so de sired, restrict the great mill power of the country to ten hours a day—let the house, if it thought proper, sanction the amendment, but let them weigh well tee consequence. (Hear, hear.) Mr. ELLIOT rose to cantina what had been slated by the boa gentleman who bad just sat down. If the amend ment was carried, it would put a stop to the entire motive power of the mills atter 10 house working sad he could not but thick that was the real intuition of the noble lord and others on both sides of the house. (Hoar.) Mr. HUME said that the hon. member for Cheshire directed the attention of the house to the real character of the proposition. Its object was to restrict the hours of labour by legislative interference, which he ofinsiderod to be a moot pernicious cause to ad opt. Lord R. GROSVENOR begged to deny the conclusion arrived at by the bon, member for Montvale, that labour would be injuriously interfered with by the amendment of his noble friend Lord Ashley. (Hear, hem.) It merely went Vi protect children ; and if not carried, the children would be at the option of the employers to be worked, not merely ten boon per day, but perhaps twelve, or even fifteen hours per day. (" No, no," md " Divide.") Mr. W. I. FOX said som e members seemed to think the question had been brought to the reductio ad absurdum in limiting the labour of adults to 10 hours par day. Now he did not apprehend any such thing to have boon doss ; and though some of the manufacturers might look on the matter with aversion, yet he believed tho great body of ope ratives would rejoice. (Hear, hear.) It was said that the effect of the measure would be to prevent men labouring who were desirous of doing so longer than they worked at pretest. Now on that subject the opinions of the workmen had bean expressed most ezplicitly and perste veriogly. He auppoe-d the hon. member for Montrose was an advocate for a tree-labour market. (" Hest, hear," from Mr. Hume.) But could that be called • froo-labour market where the option was given a man to work only wtthia cer tain restricted hours seek day ? Mr. BROWNE was of opinion that bath the noble lord (Lord Ashley) and the hon. member for Oldham were wrong. He could enure the house that in cams where mills worked longs/ than 10 hours per day they engaged the very best axon for the labour. (Hear, bear.) After a few words from Mr. IiTAIIIPIELD, which were bat in the loud mills for a division, The home divided. For the amendment Against it l6O-1 The announcement was received with loud cheers by the supporter of the amendment. On retuning to the gantry, we found Lord J. MidENBRB addressing the house, and submit ting for its adoption the Woman amendments. In clause one, line 14, that the word " six" he omitted for the purpose of inutile, the words " half-past nee," and in line 18, that the word " two" be omitted for the purpose of inserting the words " half-past three." In the event of these amendments being married, to move, in clangs three, lite 39, to omit the word "sis." for the purpose of inserting the words " half past Ave." The questis,n, he said, then was would the par liament of England ratify to the' people of England the b)on which they had deliberately agreed to give them ; end that was the matter at UAW, and upon which they would have to pronounce " aye" or " no. ' (Hear, Mr.) He hoped and entreated heaven that the decision of English gentlemen would be in accordance with English honour and honesty. (Hear, hear.) He appealed to one *opulence of every session, whether it had not been customary, when an enactment failed in carrying out the intention of the legis lature, to pass a declaratory treasure, with a view to sensedy that defeat. (Hear, hear.) He was prepared to assert that the working of the Factory Bill, previous to the decision of the Court of Exchequer, had been satisfactory, as indeed the evidence of the factory inspector, Mr. Homer, testified The manufeeturas had told them, day alter day, that never before was trete so bloomed, never was inaanfacturiag industry placed on so more a basis, as at the present time ; and now they came forward and mid that, if this great boon were not taken away from the berry workers, the employers would be gatelike& The people of Er gland did not place much reliance on the prephselos of the Manchester school. When these Command= of Etaisybeidge, of Manchester, and of Yorkikire told them that the weal or woe of the minute.- tariag interest depend= on the retention of this half-hour, they did not value the pndietion. "Give us this half-hoar," said bon. teenage= oppoeite, " and we will defy Morita and the Z)llverda ; refuse It, and the gm of Essiand'a manufacturing pempitity has set for ever." What I wore them the gentlemen who, night alter night, had been telling them on the part of the 'manufacturing interest that they emsraid protection and and would defy a world in mindles (Hear, hear.) He held in his hand a meat remark able document signed by a umber of Lancashire seasinfac toren in (avoar of the maintenance of the Ten Hems AM. They observed that they had a Ceep interest in the metal and worldly welfare of those who worked for them, as well as in the prosperity of their own tr a d e , and that, ha re fleeted on the operation of the Ten Hem AM both viag as re. yarded the working men and as respected trade they were convitmed that its advocates did sot over.estiniate its value when they promoimi it in parliament. What was the ad- Tweee which this hill cionforred an the workpeople t It took away from them two boars. What, then, was the compen sation white livened it with the same of a otnaprmUe It was saM that =ere would be a benefit in the prohibition of women and ram persons from working after six o'clock in the eveniog. He appealed to those has. gentlemen who were conversant with the mentsfacturleg districts whether, even sines the dsoision of the Court of ll:che viot, 11011•1111 and young persons had not, la 99 eases oat of 100, left off work at half-put five J (Hier, hear.) He Gould not but regret that the government were Meiling the house by lea Tots that evening to compel her Majesty to return t o the working people the testimonial which ha had bees soEudowkatteepted by her Majway. Oe the rev** of that partiiesed wit* the posse of bee Majesty's ll *ea, a 4 obtefelted, be haw. by bar Melsety as set lee* elitism of the may *sold* is ber itapaW *owe —ass the sevens of that medal were isyseibed Ibe words, "Tea Moen DM." (Rear, lest.) Was . % Well that the aseld.atlel advisers of the sovereign should ask them that weals. to erne tee vole which would reader that media a sat uossealog toy; or that they should se a* that its roves* sighs to press*, " The laseashteasy el puti . sueut," " The levity sad lodifferewes of the sal toss, sod "The folly of the people who walled in either ? " (Cheers.) Let set the hewn vete with lee eyes elosed stee to d D i d lawritalge result of - It . , dned • seats els ' this measure ae ts. they agita tes"? Did they wish to renews _ far esditioa t If tartlet evidence of the Janne of the MIS were neasmary he would nfsr to the authority, expesend, not in public but in private, of no Ins a person than the right honourable member for Manthonter (Mr. M. Chinon.) When • depatatiest waited open that right benearabie gentleman sad two other boa. gentlemen who were leaden ea the same beset, and sand teem whether they thought there was any shone. of the Hone of.Commeas scanting to a twelve hours kill, an eleven hours bill, or even a ten sad a ball hours bill, they replied that so deeply was that bores pledged to a ten hears bill that they coald sot hold out to the deputation say hope that either of then manta would be successful. He (Lord J. Hamm) trusted that the hone did feel itself pledged to a ten hours bill. He asked the donee to redeem their pl. dee ' sad to prove to the working people of this eostan that they attached sore value to th e declared inns. doss cf y the leginstare, and to the elaims end rights of the industrial populstios than to the back-stain minas. and coffer-house erroshinatioa of any set of amneisted sap porters of the governasent. (Hear.) He appealed to the ancient spirit of English homer to 'indicate the rights, the admitted rights, of English labour, and he appealed to that house to show that they were n et only in lame and in theory, bat in deed sad reality, the representatives if the Commons of England. (China) Mr. HORNBY seconded the motion, and nagratuls'ed the errantry la having found is the noble lord such an able sueoresor to Lord Ashley, who hod, be regretted, abandoned the glassine in despair. The desertion of that noble lord bad, be believed, produced a most prejudicial effect upon many of the votes upon the abject, but he still hoped they would be enabled to carry out the wish of the operatives for a re.l ten hours bill. The hen. gentleman quoted the opinions of members of the government, when the former bill was under discussion, in favour of a ten hours bill, and celled upon them to state a Nicole circumstance which bad linos occurred that could operate to induce them to charge then opinions. Bir G. GHEE said that be hoped that the hone would not agree to adopt the amendment of the noble lord, and in saying that he must elvers his ocincurrenes with thole who hoped that they would not decide the guestion is ignorance of what the facts were, and with their eyes closed against the provisions of the bill. Any bon. gentleman who may hove eons Into the house and heard only the speeches of the noble lord who proposed the amendment and the hon. mem ber for Blackburn., who eecondsd it, would be now equally ignorant of this bill and its provision. The noble lord treated this case as if it were simply a repeal of the act of 1847. The hoe. gentleman who followed him treated it in the same wanner, and, after having quoted what was known to everybody, stated that he could not conceive on what grounds the government could have been pithy of gross in consistency in altering • line of policy which they at ono time maintsined and in supporting the bill which was then before the house. When the hon. gentli man mooted him (Biro. Prey having given a vote on the other sided the cause which be was now going to neutralise by a vote which he was going to give while in ogle., be must be allowed to tell the bon. gentlemen that he frrant to tell them that be (Bir G. Grey) sitting in that bongs in 1847 followed the same course as be was now about to adopt, and he had not the kindness to remind them that between than mini a there was no iocosstateocy whatever. He also forgot at the Ant that. the vote which be (Sir G. Grey) and the noble lord at the head of the government were about to give on that night were intended to give effect to the votes which, in the year 1844, they thought proper to give. It was said that it was only necessary for government to correct a clerical error whiob'oec . orred in the act already passed. There were two or three clauses in the sot of 1844 on which doubtful deal sloes were given. That was the inconsistency of the state of the law, and it was not an error which an act of parliament Gould remedy. If so, it might have been remedied long ago. The operatives celled upon the govern ment not to legislate on the matter until it had been ultimately decided in a court of law. That ides *ion was given, and then his noble friend the member for Bath, feeling sure that the intention of parliament was that relays and shifts should not be allowed, asked parlia ment to sri-nt to the introduction of a bill which was ro carry into f fleet the intention of parliament. He (Sir G. Grey) had no objection to it, hut he stated that the noble lord would not find it so easy a matter as he thought, not because or any eerical error that might arise, but because of the difficulty to form any that should express the intentions of parliament; and he added that the only effectual way of obtaining the objects which they had in view, would he to limit the range within which the Ten Hours Act of 1847 would be taken. The noble lord carried the second reading of his bill, and neither he nor the noble lord (J. Russell) objected to it. The noble lord then found out that the bill did not carry into effect the objects which he bad intended; he there asked leave to bring in another clause, and he afterwards Ibund that that would be equally inoperative. It was not till then that be (Sir G. Grey) interfered, and he was sure, after the communications that had been received from Mr. Horner and other inspectors on the sub. ject, that the vote of the noble lord the member for Bath, who had that night been traduced, and spoken of as a renegade would be foxed recorded against the amendment which had been proposed. The noble lord the member for C cl chewer took a one-sided view of the question, when be sup posed that this bill was not intended to carry out the objects of the acts of 1844 and 1847, which were to include the ten hours labour within the rage of fifteen hours. There was no doubt that each an arrangement as that would he bene ficial to the operatives, as it would enable them to devote their evenings to some useful oecupatione, either in in struction or recreation. It was said that the mill owners were in every way disposed to evade the law ; he thought that they could not evade such an arrangemert as this bill proposed. It would secure to the operatives the immense advantage of having the uninterrupted use of their evenings after 6 o'clock. He hoped that the hone* would pause before they, in deference to the arguments of the noble lord who made use of much declamation about good faith, agreed to the amendment which he proposed, and before they al tered a bill which would cause a satisfactory settlement tit this question, such es would be highly acceptable to the great body of operatives in this country. There were mac, of them who he knew were favourable to an eight hours bill, but be did not think that such a measure would be satisfactory to the entire body. He was ready now to repeat the opinion which he on a former occasion caressed that it was desirable that parliament should attend to the reasonable wishes and expectations of the operatives of the country; and also that it was desirable that the operatives should feel that their interests were eared for le that house. Mr. BAN KRS supported the amendment, and claimed for the operatives their full rights under the act of 1847. He could not understand why they should be the nut jeet of any compromise —a condition of which, however, he believed was the am. mho. nt whit the house had just rejected. Mr. STANFORD likewise supported the amendment, which would place the operatives in the position in whist it was the intention of the act of 1247 to place them. Mr. NEWDEGATR supported it upon the same ground, contending that those who gave up the limit of the act of 1847 did not keep their word wilt the factory operatives. Mr. MUNTZ said the question was, what did the house vote for in 1847 ? He believed all voted for a bona fide tea hours bill. Teen, would this measure give the operatives a tea hours bill) It would not. The case stood thus: the house gave them what purported to be a ten hours bill, but. fiddle% a flaw in it, tack advantage of their own wrong. 11.. had voted for a ten boon bill in 1847, and, as an honest man, he should vote Li. it now. Mr. HEALD, alter • most conscientious examination of all the bearings of this question, as • man of honour, was constrained to the inclusion th at he was bound to vote icr the amendment, end believed there would be en ultimate gain in maintaining the high standard of honour of the British parlismen.. Mr. HEYWOOD said a few words in opposition to the amendment, which was supported by Mr. W. J. FOX, who cosidered that the engagements of parliament should not be revised until ample reason was shown. A promise was binding on the putt promising in the sense in which it wee understood by the promise*, and the operatives understood that they were to have a tea hours MU. Alderman SIDNEY supported the amendment, consider ing it a question in which the honour and integrity of parlia ment were concerned,. Mr. W. PAT YEN mid it was not just to argue the ques tion as one of contract. Many persons di , issoted from the act of 1847, and he, as one of those person., considered this bill as an honourable compromise, advantageous alike to the operatives and the master mansion facturere. From his connexion with • miinulacturing county he knew that a great number of millownen were sutiffly opposed to the law of 1847, but they had declared their willingness to renounce their opposition if the compro mise WIN accepted, and the great body of the enlightened operatives were prepared to accept it. Mr. ANSTBY and Mr. B. CUCHILIitiI supported the amend ment, as well as Mr. 8. CRAWFORD, who said he expressed the unani mous feeling of the working dames of Rochdale, and of 44 proprietors of mills to its nesghbourhood. Mr. OusznaLL likewise supported the amendment. Lord J. RUSSELL said he was anxious to suits the ground on whist i he should support the proposal of his right hon. friend (Sir 0. Only.) Hs must take ranch of the re/possibility of the act of 1847; both to that and the pre ceding esiaion he had smoldered that the bill would too a great advantage to the families of the working clause who were employed in mills. He had considered that it would give them time which they could not otherwise procure, whe , her for attention to their domestic do bac, for lemming, or for such other improvements as they might attain for their families. He had not thought It likely that the measure would be attended with the con sequences Mat were predicted—that It would be a depriva- tion of ene-sixtb of the manufacturiag power of the country, and thereby a great diminution of its wealth lad induttrial energy. He retained the opinion he then held—he believed that the act of 1847 wee founded upon sound prineiples, and be bad no wish to repeal that act. (Hear, hear.) Being • supporter of that act, he should have bean quite willing— and he had tweeted to several members of the house his opinion that that world be the beet eoarse—to leave that last entirely . andisturbed during the present session ' not to latest.,.e in any way with Ito provisions, hat to leave it to the iaterpeetatlon put upon it by the courts of law, and not to leveke the intervietion of parliament to make any alteration et explanation, ' Who had proposed that alteration ? Not say or those who untended' that twelve or sieves hours wee the peeper period of labour for young persona , but the noble lord the member Mg Bath, who had come forward on behalf of the operative*. es the advocate of the young per ' sons engaged In futorke, and had said that it was absolutely neemeary to mall for the 'Unfreezes of parliament with teepees to that set. Then, if he were boned egaiset his will to prosonses au opinion with rupee* to that set, he mast look at it in ocajusetion with farmer sets, and see what it did, end what ft did set, provide. Some hon. gentlemen geckoes If that act had derided the whole question, and had given all the advantages which this bill proposed. Bat this was elnicull net theism. There wee no provision, either is the set el 1847, or is that of 184 i, that these persons should not be employ ed at any time except between the hours of six and nit , _ that they should not begin earlier than six In the morning, nor finish later than Mx in the evening. On the contrary, those acts provided that this elms of ppeersnoons inlet begin work at half-past flu, and that the egos of their period of labour should sot be later than half past eight. So that, according to those acts, there were sot 12, but 15 bows, daring which their Moor nthsht be performed. (Hear, hear) Therefore he could not conceive how hon. mem ber could say that the proposal of the noble lord opposite—that they should work so Men than ten hears, and that those ten boors should be takes between ax sod six—wee merely carrying into effect the provision which parliament had already made, and that there woe say broach of (pith In meklag any alteration In that set ; Ilse the noble lord - himself proposed a very considerable alteration, mid as ea drily new restriction with respect to factory labour. There was indeed a forced construstios of the set, which said that it any of thou persons began work at half-past five in the morning, and others came in afterwards, at twelve, or one, or two, in the doy, the whole should be construe! to have began work at half-past five in the morning ; but, at all events, and ladle' pliably, it wee in the power of the mill owners either to bung in these young persons at half-past five in the morning, and continue their labour till five in the afternoon, giving an hour and a half for meals, or to bring them to the mills at nine in the morning, and continue their labour till half put eight in the evening. Of that there was no doubt whatever. (Hear, beer.) Th-refore, any bill which proposed that they should not be employed at the mills, but between six and six, must be a considerable alter ation—must inquire a fresh restriction, and, as he thought, give a froth benefit to those classes. That being so, we* it sot allowable, when they were called upon to legislate by tha *obis lord the member for Bath, to say that if fresh restrictions were placed on the employers, and they were obliged to give up three out of the fifteen hours during which they might employ these young persons, and thereby so far to diminish their productive power--on the other band, the time is which they might labour should be some what le , gthened, so that on the whole two hours additional labour in the week should be given? As they were departing from the acts of 1847 and 1814, the real question for the house was, whether this arrangement was upon the whole one which the operatives and their families might agree to so upon the whole beneficial to them. The bon. member for Stockport had said he entertained no doubt that the enact. merit of this bill would be an advantage to those elutes—the classes for whose benefit the act or 1847 was orieinally parsed. It this were so, and if the millowners, on the other side, who originally contended for twelve hours, and who for the last two years had asked for eleven hours, were content that this enactment should take place, was it ant consonant to the wisdom of parliament to endeavour to make an ar rangement which some of its opponents admitted would be bens fi•ial to the working cleat., and which was BO far ac ceptable to the millowbers, that, according to the hon. mem ber for Lancashire, many of those who had entirely opposed the policy of those acts, would cordially consent to act in conformity with the law, supposing the bill were passed ? If such au advantage could be obtained, there was no weight in the objection that, because in 1847 they contemplated the restriction of labour to ten continuous hours, they ought not to pass this act. It was obvious, and no one (toted gainsay it, that the act of 1847 never contained any proviai r.- strieting the labour of these young persons to the hours between six and six; and therefore, supposing this bill to be carried, with the noble lord's amend ments, it would not be a mere correction of a technical error in the acts of 1817 or 1944, but it would be in effect a new enactment, considerably more re strictive, aad thereby threatening that fresh agitation which the house ought to seek to avoid. With these opinions, therefore, being in favour of the set of 1847, he still thought it would be expedient to adopt the proposal of his right honourable friend (Sir G. Grey). (Hear, best.) This proposal, it carried, would be the signal for the attempt to resist any legislation at all on the subject, and to rest satis fied with the act of 1847 as interpreted by the courts of law —which would be ac insiderable disadvantage to the opera tives. While disagreeing with the hon. member for Stock port, he founded his vote for the bill very muck on the rea sons to which that boo. member attached weight. If hi* bid would give great advantages to the cperative theme, and at the same time be ace ••ptable to those who had hitherto contended against the limitation of labour, parliament could mot have a better opportunity of settling the matter. lf, on the contrary, they adopted the amendment they could not expect it to be settled ; they might expect agitation in that and the following years, and that would be a very great mis fortune. (Hear, hear.) With respect to a great portion of the mills in this country, those that were already working 11 hours, there would be no difference ; in others, where were shifts and relays, those would be put an end to, and the operatives would thereby gain a very great advantage . Air. ELLIOTT feared that, even as it stood, the bill would seriously injure many of the smaller proprietors of mills moved by water power, such as existed in the county lie represented {Roxburghsbire). Syr. SRO TII EILTON approved of the bill, and he thought it sufficient. Mr. EDWARDS hating briefly spoken in favour of the air.endinent. Mr. DISRAELI said he kad not yet spoken on this quer tion, though he had voted in all the divisions. The subj in, though a simple one, was one of deep interest. Metre than thirty years ago the agitation for the Ten Hours Bill had been commenced in the north of England. In that movement he descried the action of an over worked population ; and it was gratifying that a people in such a position had not sought relief in conspiracy sod coin bination ; but at a time when education was more limited, and a ',Mini information less diffused than at present, they ' had confidence in parliament, and sought at its heads relief from their sufferings (Hear, hear.) It was not till the lapse of 30 years that in 1817 a legislative enactment sanc tioned their convictions. He was not surprised at so great an interval between the expression of the popular wish and the act of the legislature. Statesmen and senates might be well appalled at a proposal which threatened to restrict the industrial power of the country; and it was only after very full inquiry as to the condition and wants of the people that the act had been passed. It had been regarded as • great political experiment. Had it failed? (Hear, hear.) Had experience shown that parliament had committed a great error ? Bfra• ge to sty it was at a time when the labouring population was moat prosperous—at a time when, according to their own representations, that working population was most improved, materially and morally, that they were called upon to alter and to r ev i se their legisla tion, and to acknowledge that the law was a mistake, while admitting that its consequences had been most successful. Long as the agitation which heralded the law, had pro ended, though ills subject had paused through periods when political excitement and party passions were strong, yet, be would not say by a fortunate accident, but by a happy pro .idence, what was called the factory question had never been connected with the fcrtunes of any political party. And the act of 1847 passed that house in a manner which must have convinced the people that it was the result of unimpassioned deliberation, and not of party combinations. (Hear.) The act bad beea most successful. It was tested by experiment ; and its existence was, it seemed, accompanied by great commercial prosperity; with not only the mainten ance but the increase of wages amongst all cloves; win not only the maintenance but the increase of the export of coin ! modifies to those markets where the demand for these cone moilities ought to be most materially injured by this law ; and now they were called upon to give • verdict as to its character. (Hear.) What was the reason, he wished to know, that they were now, in 1830, called on virtually to repeal and abrogate that law ? If, indeed, the case had been otherwise; if the members for Manchester and other great towns had said that the mills had stepped, that the workiog classes were not remunerated for their toil, if they gave a gloomy picture of the society in which they mixed, and of which they were the leaders, he could under stand—not in :red that they should hastily and without con sideration set about repealing the act of 1847—but he could understand why the house should calmly, seriously, and se-teasingly examine these complaints, investigate the cause, and then, if they found they were caused by the opera tion of this law, they could without shame, if not without regret, proceed to its repeal. (Hear, hear.) But nothing of the kind was alleged. On the contrary, gentlemen connected with the north of England told them that the north was never in a more flourishing condition. (Hen hear.) He wished to strip the ques ti on o f a ll the h air splittiop with which its consideration had been mixed up The factory workers imagined that j when the act of 1847 passed their labour would be re strieted to 10 hours a day. And when they wen told they were deprived of its benefits by the act of 1844, they were entering upon • mystification which the people could not comorehend, and which, as plain unsophistieoted men, they did not wish to understand. (Hear, hear.) By pursuing such a course whilst they failed to satisfy the reason they lost all hold upon the allegiance of their hearty. (Hear.) The ground taken by the noble lord could not be admitted into the discussion of this question now. They had it. longer any thing to do with the economical con siderations involved in it. The decision to which parlia ment had come upon that might have been erroneous, might have been nowise, might have been impolitic— though it was not his opinion that it wae— but at all events parliament had decided sad they were not there to consider whether it was wise or not to regulate factory labour. The getr scion was now a moral and not an economical question—(hen, hear)—and he quite agreed with the hon. member for Warrington (Mr. Orman) that in this question what was concerned was the honour of the parliament of England. (Hear, hear.) The legislature had to consider what war involved in these momentous words. It was a dangerous thing, in a legislature to violate its faith. He denied the right of the House of Commons to come forward now in a fit of fickleness a a a . n d d cathpaeti theyc e an d wore say n tha ot t p th re e p y are ha d d come t oaiain to tain haa f tz t oo h n w e i l t u t sior, the pea le of this country. (Cheers.) The hone then divided For the amendment 142 Against The report was t h en brought up and resolved. ME OPTER) -- 11 The eons Ol t his a nal Clo this bill lN was thee reamed ar BILL . 1 eln 'ed, several additional clauses being agg,,i %s. miscellaneous discusion. The el.'s.a by whieh the .4 '44 the principal secvetary was allotted the „, ) !" . 1 of some lively debating. Ultimately the clorrance • '" I at 1,2001 per spouse. as g od The bane renamed. LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND) Rio. Major ELACKALL *eked whether toe goverm,.. "" proceed with this hill in the present session ? at Sir G. GREY flied the second reedih; Lir Thur. 4., na t inst., but said he could gine bo promise timer might be done after it bed been reed a mend time -"" TURNPIKE ROAD (IRELAND) BILL. This bill went through eonimitree. BOROUGH COURTS FL. RECORD (IRELAND) BIL The hens* having gene into committee on this bill, Mr GROGAN moved as an amendment, list 1 6 1. b e anhetitiated for 201., as the sons recover able uhae r th , 111M51155. Mr. HATC The committee divided. HELL could not conse n t t o t h e amendiue,,. ... For the amendment l7 Fur the clause The other clauses were egreeg to, and the home lrxl_ . sensed. HOME-MADE SPIRITS IN BONI,. Oa bringing up the report, BritishOULß, in reference to the relative ,1,,, u s ispirits and rum, wished t'-.e hon. introduce resolutions to give a corresp•mdi r •0 51115. Mr. F. MACKENZIE thought be had doe* his ik.„ kis country by causing the resolulion to be pa..d , the bon. member moved to put rum r n an eqeal Mobil whiskev, he aural' have his cordial sup oort Mr. I'ORBES hoped the British ci.tiaer would hi pit upon a level with the French distiller. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ,„,) out NY had given nAice of his intention to oppose Liu, hi., 'straws& MARRIAGES BILL. The report of the Marriages Bill wee brosebt up, mi ta thiid reading fixed for the 10th July. CHIEF JUSTICES OF THE QUEEN'S DENt li. Mr. MULLINOS moved an address fur C patent appointing Lord Denman Lord Chief J Court of Queen's Bench; and copy of any Tr...., or sign manual warrant appointing or grariti/ be paid to the present Chief Justice of the Q Lord Cami.heli. Ordered. The house then adjourned at one o'clock. ~ c ats .t 7 t 4 Loans.—On Thursday the t,i,onint bill' were reported specially front the ratilont mittce, and leave given vi pretend with th, %Vet' Wok., Montrose Harbour, Stour'aido. Herons) ke and llan i ont-Brid g e Turnpike -r Heiring Syke Tutopik, r oa d, Cl - r ot N Works (for supplying the City of Norwith awl N burhood thereof with Water), Snith Wale. t ,I" tal) (Powers to secure Advantsger on the re-itou, •:reAtt and on un-issued sham.. and'arn,ndtotht of at.3l ) , L C ,rporation Water Work.; bills. MR. PORTAL pair. d off in favocr of Lord J ..11 Manton 's amendment on the Factorits iii wro tr.t E. Bulimia against it. ghe CysprE.4,-3::4. OUTGOING MAIL.. The mails for Lisbon, Spain, and Uinta:tar up on the morning of June 17. The West Ind:a Mails, exeludirg Berrtudit, i Sasseu, 110. duras, New drietns, and M _inc.), itp•se for Madeira, St. Juan-de-Nieerssua, Ne* Chili, and Peru, will be made up on the mornio ~1 The mails tor Gibraltar, Malta, Orrece. t;... Egypt, Ceylon. India, and China, rut Soul be made up on the morning of June '29. The mails for British North America an 1 th. Stan Wig be made up on the evening of June 21 The mails rid Marseilles, to the hicchter,ere., C ylon, bat, Hong-Kong, itc., will he mad •' or, @resin; of June 24. mails tor Madcria, the Brasile, and Buenos Ay he made up on the evening of Jaly 4. HIOH WATEK AT LONDON IHtITO6 Tito I)4l—Honuai, S. To-wo.ac.—Morulac G.. 31. LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE I TUE difference between the French ar d En. cabinets with respect to the Greek e-ttlernont understand, be terminated ; and Lord LANS! will no doubt so announce on Monday availing. presence of M. TRIERS Margit um of itself a,: . . this conclusion. For the PREIZDF.NT of the ltt being known not to be anti-English, /motel, appreciation of Greek politics, a c acerbation of the grievance cou'd only hal, from that dominant majority of the A• at M. TRIERS is perhaps the foremost mem' - It cannot be forgotten that when the ant was made the other day in the Frreel, that M. Intouvr DE ',RUNS Vt as recalled, • semi-hostility to England was hailed with loolsho . :1 of approbation by this patty. On he part of tit,. timis•s this was hatred to T•.c;: u d a,t a coantrv• on the part of the Guicatiste, it vi..ts hatred to foreign office; both proceeding from the es"•.e sent, ment, the belief that the whigs are too liber,d. ati that they do not always sympatb.i :e with guar,: meats when they get into cliffi recces uitn people. The legitimists can never fa:gire recognition of Louts PHILIPPE : acd :Le Louie Philippiete are Nosily cl!sgustid recognition of the republic . The Ecg goc was complacent wi•h • CAVAI©NAC ; a n d ever election of Louis NAPOLEON, English politic:it.- pecially of the whig and liberal school, hare rally held that it would be wisest for the to govern in a middle course by a cmprotn. , e tween the contending classes, and that ROT and DCFAURE were perhaps the Stott :4.I;TC . fitted, from precedents and positions, to trt.c: compromise, and guide the government bc:i the Scylla of reaction and the enarybdis of r t r, t ion. This is considered high treason &gains. and interests of the better classt P by the :al en 3 the majority, who see no hope of kis pirg their tion on the surface of society ex.ep: [Le pei,cr.t popular party and popular ideas be pu: down. tarp predominance, coercion, restr.,:l, , n of popular liberties and a monarchy, are the mbar,‘ y have determined to employ. And in order they ,tralnly lean and look to alliance with d spots and reu;rado governmentsof Europe, in preference to those a: can• atitutional habits and liberal leanings. M. 'Nuns, however, does not go these krzti. Of the statesmen of the majority, we believe h:ni be most sincerely inclined to the Ergliab ince. and most thoroughly convinced that it is the s and the best for France. M. Tutins can be to ..)rer either of priestly rule or of military government. however he may see the necessity of tnik.n4 ure two such crutches for the present. llowoer ;ow of his party may look upon the Jesuits as the on:y twat regenerators, whilst others worship the isw martial as that rein/ion dtr drag, which is soesal salvation, M. TnIERS must see Itt•it W escape from the dominion of the unorglni to fall under the dominion of the soy -cite 111 ` ) • organised as either illiterate priests or selii.tia. were in truth no progress, but a mere running wand in that vicious circle, from which fortune, nvre t:Aa her own efforts, liberated France in M. Tams, however, is one of the many french who deem that without the cooe.stoce et rao:.irehy the present notabilities of rank and inte;:iz.n.y ;ge net maintain their due and salutary inn o tt.e. A republic s he or iee th s e nectuar DE Ft il e Y trr g e o s v , er a n n ed l . 117. thing preferable to a subjection of the intelagent to the half-informed, and of the expetienced tote novices of public life. The great question is, however, not whit Je" citable, but what f eas ible. Aml we ca-. 11.: hat think that in aiming so recklessly st a rectos' •' of monarchy, French conectvatites tire iir.lsaig this amount of order and influence which they hese Pa' served and wielded under tne repub:a . . -k Fr nch conservative, when asked why h e eiders a restoration of royalty so be% tuit'•,• asks you to question any and every Frenehm.in is society. The reply will show that all regret nonstell —to restore it, therefore, must he easy. Now. t" r; haps, if one were to question each American of B`"'d society, and were those Americans t reply sina" l Y' it is probable that a desire for monar,:hy, Its repo 4 and distinction, would lurk at the hot aklet answer. But, r m for all these longings of the b-t 1; &fusee, is monarchy possible in America.' it is not the longings of let Arm. that will ever found a government On thi; aide of the Atlantic or on that. It is with the Mud!: voice, and by the popular feeling, that such co P"' alone accomplished. And in our days, v. ith our Gist- Ration, these cannot be long compreseed. 'lllev tusf come back to monarchy some day, in Franc e at. lessE, but it will not be by compulsion. And to majaray of intellectual dandies, however esteemed and THE CENSUS BILL. Mr. MACORBOOII7, iacosann . ttes . ;n7this bill, to wee the basilica of a clause, in the form of • schedule, for taking an account of the occupation of the people ; also one for taking as account of the agricultural statistics of Great Britain. METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS BILL. Mr. LUSHINOTON gave notice, in committee on this bill to move a clause, exempting member of the Society of Mends from acting in the collects of rata nada the MS. CHURCHES IN EDINBURGH. Mr. HUME moved for return, of the number of sittings let in eac► of the churches of the city of Edinburgh, to per sons residing in the respective parishes to which such churches are attached, so at t►e 20th day of February, 18.50. Of the number of sittings let to members of the College of helm in each of the city churches, aa at the 20th day of February, 1860. And, of the name', designation, and re sidences of all persons on the communion-roll of the city churches, mat tne let day of May, 1850.—Ordered. MINES AND COLLIRRIBB. Mr. WYLD asked whether, as the reports of Henn. Blackwell sad Poltips had been presented, any measure would be introduced for the better ventilation and ittspection of mines sad eolliena._ _ Sir G. GREY said Ise hoped to be able soon to lay the result of the inquiries heron ypaarliament. RATING OF STOCK IN TRADE. Sir G. GREY stated, in answer to Sir R. Inglis, that as a select committee of the other house bed been appointed en tbil subject, Its did not think it expedient to proceed with the bill before the house pending their inquiry. On an early day he would state whether it was likely the bill would be proceeded with. BOUNDARY COMMISSIONERS. Mr. CLEMENTS inquired the cause of the delay in pub lishing the report of the Swindle? Commiseimen. Sir G. GREY gave some ezganations; but he wee in audible in the gallery ILLUMINATION OF THE NEW HOUSE. Mr. HUME said he would repeat the question he had put last night, as to the mem of the extraordinary illumination round the milkiest the new house, dealing and destroying the eyes of memben. It would seem as though they were experimenting, Pad allowing themselves to be amused like a pared of children. Mr. Gasmen rot being present, no answer was g iven. RSI LWAY ABANDONMENT BILL. Mr. LABOUCH ERE stated, in answer to Sir J. GIUMAII, that the Seleitor-General did not intend to move the third reading of this bill oe that rveniog, SPIRIT DUTIES. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, in gnawer to Lord Naas, that he would 'sot owe* the bringing up of the report ea the renolutione passed on nudityl night, bat would allow a bill teasded thereon to be brought in, and would then take the sense of the house open it. LORD LIEUTENANCY BILL, dm Sir G. GREY rated, is answer to Sir R. Inoue, Goatee bill would he taken the lest enter of the day on Monday, and next the Jews Bill. TRBATMENT OP MR. W. S. O'BRIEN. L tire the Some O'BRl Depaitment BN put a questionresp ostia• to dm bis Secretary of State brn f• O'Brien. of whose conditio n sad treatment Via Diomen's Land be Mated some pimiento s . Sir G. GREY, mi reply, esplebted the instraetions which had bees given to the goyim. of Van Diemen's Land with re/cream to the treatment of Mr. O'Brien and hie two stem panicles who were offered tickets of Immo upon their engaging not to abuse this indulge-o. ; bat Mr. O'Brien rebued to give this plods*, sad ores of noccasity, and in conformity with tie scrotum's matructiose, placed under a certain degree of restreist, in charge of • responsible officer. Sir George added that, if the goversateat WIMP open to any accatattea MI to ins isi