The Express. — London, England, 1855-03-20 00:00:00

I m I'ERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—MOSDAT, Mabee" 19. The Lord Chancellor took his seat at 6 o'elodr.. THE - CASE or MR. CiRDIN. -.--. Lord BROIIOII ill said, wing hie sable hind the late Lord Liniment of Inlan d ((whom he, sad Le had ito doubt many persons, »trotted to ban to sell the late lord' Untie tat) as his plies, he begged to give hhn soble-lkat he should to-morrow (this day) ask • gonna rsopeeting SOB ' cue of Mr. Carden. 1 THE CAVALRY CHARGE AT BALAHLAVA. The Rat of LUCAN mound for spies et some nda • sad uneneadene reopening the nage of the ht Cavalry brigade at the action of Babklan. He de n de tailed with much minuteness the prooomilep of that day,. .ad the tenor of the orders he had received boo Loe:ceißtresta, of the oos toadies that these orders, toge th er with the left him nano English and Preach eorge at the time, mainly waken diatonic& to decline or delay their esecetion. Me essauded as follows :—I lived sad acted with air Colin Campbell for ton swathe; sad what did ht say whoa I came away ? He said, " I shall always remenba this— that when this wet fell of croakers and grumblers, I knew you to lank at nay dillitolty." I feel Gat seek a teittmeny from sash a amuse Sir Con Campbell h Malay fletterter. (Hera hear) The 'disincline& seW, saaral g ian needed the s on who, when other Alan were sod ranks away from their duty, was always Mail pot." It bas been said that I exhibited • want of missal ameregeAsa bg the order. What is the oinks of all eineffitterp mash lah lan ? That the order woo 'asperities sad that I had ne nein. What is the opinee of the Gahm of sty diebletri Then is not an offie“ 'amused bg eny of the tia regbarati that did not my, " The order llsash that Ad ass den refuse it." Some said, "11 yet had ariatker coulee, you night have wed It, ht . v: would awn have b .. ese use 1M spalans . ir . r. b., 4 . om a s hoorow ywtse . will now give you the onsion of an Aloof who, wan nastily, is as more—l men Sir George Calmat. (Hear, hear) I shell give you 9s- George Cathcart's °pint's with regard to the Babklava ehasge t and my conduct in connexion with it. It meaner canna by Sir G. Catboat that this letter would nee usder ay entre sad it was by the merest accident Mane late my band. And, wham it will not be quite inineicallej it I tell you that this is an surest from • ling bon air George to Lady Georgina 'Cathcart,; that ft wee en hie pane mhos be Sell; sad was taken from his body, pierced with UN beast which coat hint his life. It is dated 2nd Nonnber, throe days before the battle of Iskinasan ; sad Sir George um " I hare anther opportruatj of writing to you. You will have read about the affair of Bilaklava, is which the light smeary sedan so severely. It was • non gallant but unfortunate affair. Neither Lord Lunn ROT Lord Cardigan was to blame, bet on the enemy, for they obeyed ceders." (Hear, hear.) Hs contlana, " My division was emit for, bet they had en miles to oome." This shuts the Gann of the fortes whin lard Raglan said wen map le impart me. Now I do sot wish pow nee fan eo.er, bat I repeat that I wished to do my duty, whom 1 baud nnelf recalled, alter • eonespeademos which gave me gnat pain. I was not told that I was recalled by the PrlmMilligni bat was given to madonna that I was re sargiVeto ealla is ter I defy any one to fled la the dilated a wialkstisti assures*. (Hese.) Oss might has Mat the sable duke oe the Commander- ImOilef add have eadesaand to have asthma the regal, based of whisk tare was seta single word of eseesistioe. Adding . thing whisk I dust maks is, that bd.!, I left INN Majesty did me the high besour of wide, me to lieskingh • Vses es ay apelausent, sad *see is a e ars of lash tyke bee set reesived ben her Ma isel the some mark of panes seassesaism Owe my ratan, her Majesty has act "mind ans. I Mel *et has- Majesty stair sea de mamba ; bat I Simi nyerlf la this palsies es my name. that I maid set, lest it should peen emkarmiadid, de swat the limed: et waiting os her Majesty . I Inn mow se_ wskOse der the Maga at which I have doubled your Sethi* Te the genessmat I say, you have weasel, grieves* erneged. as masa • soldier as her Majesty hes is late sada IMI e government—that I have shows you to bide sated=. I all on you to give my statement file coranbeaffialle end U you an oravined that you have, in my NO% admitted gross Westin, I ask you no more that to sessadder year decision and give MI II court martial, ban Whisk I may prove Nay inacieses. (Cheers.) The Earl of CARDIGAN said he deeply regretted that he found it snowy to address their lordship', even for a moment, beano he had come to the house with the deter. reinatioa of Rot taking any part in the diocesan. He had risen, however, to Correa a statement of the noble lord eoneerning himself. The noble lord said that he (Lord Cardigan) sent in side•d•-camp to say that the many wen in sash fora In the front as to render it diffi cult tor him to hold his ground. H. (Lord Cardigan) sent no such message. What he said was, that rho hills on each tide of the valley in which was the Russian battery wen severed with Russian riflemen, sad that there wen Ruins tank batteries • and when the lieutenant - general came in front, and orde red him (Lord Cardigan) to attack the bat tery in the valley, beyond which another and heavy Russian battery was plead, the fact became evident. The riflemen were distinctly vistble, bet the liestentintionera said that to attack was Lad Raglan's positive order. So true was his (Lord Cardigan's) report, that they had not advanced 2A yards when Captain Nolen, who was galloplig about the front, but by no means leading the charge, was killed by a Well which case from one of the very flank batteries he had pointed out. He merely made them observations to remove misconception. Lord PANMURE said—l believe that a more diatoms discussion than the present was never brought before your lordships, and that a gallant officer—one whom courage his not boon doubted—has never been placed in so painful a position as the noble and gallant earl has been this night. The noble and pliant earl has gone into the details of his services is the East, and of certain brave mid gallant actions in which he was engaged, with a minuteness which was extremely interesting. Bat at the same time your lordships will perceive that it is • subject isle which it is impossible for me to follow him. It is a subject upon which I cannot presume to give say opinion, though I most say that in following the noble earl's spun I was somewhat surprioed by the highly. sauteed and ex parts statements which he thought fit le make—statements which it is impossible on the instant to &saw, and which impugn the judgment and discretion of thole having the command and direction of our army. No en can be more deeply icepresnd than I can be in what has been called the misconception of an order by the noble earl, and in the disastrous effects which attended it. Bat, lay lords, I cannot say that I regret altogether what took plan nor do I dash that that gallant charge—which will never be effaced from the records of British arms (avan)— has been entirely without good result. It has carried into the hurt of ate enemy a fear of British covens which, I am quit* envineed, will be of great and good service to the army yet epos some haute occasion, and that the eight of those fellows who charged so bravely in the valley of 'abse ntia& will, on some future wall-fought field, put to flight the squadrons of Ruda, it may be without • collision so far as they are encomed. (Hear, hear.) My lords, I had anticipated that the noble and gallant earl—for gallant I admit him to be in every sense of the word (hear, hear) — would have argued that point lapoa which he has ea former eseseloas laid so nisch stress— . viz. the bassi Mr inquiry. But to that point of ' his ems tbs nib earl has referred simply in the latter part et his speen. He has contented himself with i yindicallia of his deduct, and with urging before your lordships M Westin of what has been done • he has not, however, Mil anything as to his claims for a °Out martial, or the geepisty or expediency of greeting eon a claim. With . INGlfilla to the recall of the noble and gallant eta, I have simply le refer to the papers which are in your lordships' heads. Tbe aeMe earl, eli ind•ed, stator , that t that h i s recall might have bees men courteously. worded might have bees in terms more considerate to wards himina My]dis, it was distinctly set forth in that recall, that will se tad ice regard to the nobs earl's gelliw try wastbadesnmeet woosomPaL Ciroesssleass had seas betwees do rids and rasa earl sad his Oemmedier•lio- Chid, sad out of them abominated 1I wade bed ocean*. Those ware refereed le la • delemok el OW 011 s• assalet-imObie4 whored Laid Magda sure the die mina need se the dawn whin referesee bee se ellea bees seas te a whesseepsies erne noble and plisse and t sad it was erldeddsse sa ber Majesty's geeeesmoss that the maddens* shish is Zit 'sin between the semwsaddrimalst a gaud eadamusftd a = et the sail bed le a certain extent bees intern with. It opal le her Majesty's gowersissat, mdse than dr aldeasame draft was for the tomtit of Oho pobikt sad to the adeaday el the army that ose et She Gebel dean dimes shed& be media ;an soy beds, I thiak yea leM agree with de that le the sem oomotoodlog the des that need dwell be address/. The sable sad gal lant earl says that be beetitied to ea Insley late his ad duct. If this we a lineation merely salsa M the seMi and gallant earl, I assid, perhaps, have UM illilltgi a r s advising apes the insiout occasion. But your will peratin that is this as in all other military dean, a peessised sat is the sets of the noble and gallon nit meat be lammed iiiiiiwgbout the whole army ; the law for him nen la Ile law he the messed whale la the ranks. The queslissA,a„e,.. Oen me Ole ia to ewes plaint of the net which woad WI in tallies for as inquiry urges Ibis wallah say sesee than say man in this ranks, whiseendect had been esseassi by his supe rb/ *doer, midi chid the right to have did NSW, deternined apes by a military nun. Neer I trick there is so right is thb ens which is eat leaded ups Iwo, sad time sno law epos which ddem ated um tars. esadthe law by which the army is governed. fhb is 111110.110 ia the Mutlay Act, the Articles of War, mid the edam el war, sanctioned by lag usage. My dais I have belted Iva an tato the Mutiny Act ; I ken asked with ere lamas Articles of War ; 1 hays rellinair awl Wm the gasil advise, le ell the swam et war ; sad I masa =le ese or the ether, say sessed Ise swans to the dada d *5 mhos sad saint bid epos the reign ossailia, tbe Alma which lis hes made for 'equity by a nilVallellmml. There are ease Ruler the Mutiny eat 1s shish a edam la an option of tried by • court seribi or et istmlNag d man pesWmrat of forfeiture a pay a dr lenelsoneest; bet these moos are opeeilleally lei we in the sot of nannies ; they are speeilleslly nuked out la the Artistes of War. Asa under aot ea et diem heads ma tke am ol the noble sad Ballast earl be ...ed by the mu.. gaiiat lord la hie - iip — Pii Pis a *na u seate' The RAN toad • saysieeliaShoope_ are briogia mpg him Lon Regina. Sim sly lads, so ' - usraeraiseliactinswapiiiitt i=hrzsitahaTehasaut pcipleg slaw ref Se re ,a tile proem Nudge et the Isna Nall he sphis mil t ssz hina, -Chief. Oartia hes h am at tad lt d .= " h d .. Pu i:r ri .1.6:.,. it net , PAW beer at:r a itated to elljatt ellen Wlllailem=sativer cad ever _man t Mum the did tbe Dube a W ery Wthealreenireptioa a ems ori e ttrair e peses, le sen4allmath el wear ceder by MOWN penes, dranselhalla miseerdei ; end did the Duke a Par gait of brioslagamee Asa; before a a Ili three afoot war demand a l I i f re es s r =iss the e4nrery p itiak el be tried by • whim his wounded by remarks it his emptier Aar. Ibiro I= be aa end at wire s te sink , is the raimg, ea sad to all power la the wsike. to late am gad a all Patrol what etr...fl2leanaut am seppat that la this Wwe we wen to • in the veto sad OLP earl to have as . irarTby an the thanes to be lareaglit for card ? Are they to be brought timid by Lord &Pea himself ? r Rear, boar," from Lard Lam) It is evilest that the setae lard who sheen keine seeking whatever of military law if he did he woad be perfectly aware that its Ant is, that whim ea Ober or soldier who has been with any .rime fier whisk he may be brought to a imi .sail-martial le empieued se dray before that mertmartial lakes ple" sae Pam amine him frost the aims which balm ammlllal. The party who would have to frame the has sendesed tie of see, and he 'linnet, seder drew ephea the ladividsal ea employed. I think that the in d gallant earl will And that, although Imoink he has shwa his competeas to do mil &dna Wises is the field, I will not yield te him la disusehe the tesngitiee of military law sad I Milk ke will IP thee I psi interpret it. If 'Lord Sagan ameet Items them shape, is the Judge- Adelman Seas& Is hoes them t If this were so, they would be ammed by an sear who declared that the shame would not had water, emash as the set has hem condoned, and it that soy merman of a court-martial would be amirmed spa that ground, even admitting that a court- Paid essU At upon the matter. Bat I place the whale .w, after all, u the question of the diecip las of the. army; for the more I look into the matter, the Pre plainly do I gee that a military Was this ealisios would be feel te that discipli ne. =saw your lordships to what took place last year. A amakoka set spa the sub set of the promotion el Alan lath envy. What mad be tor grievance to a military gem than I. les WPM ever in cases of promotion. Bat that amakatot oessmeneated promotion for merit dun, PI that altars of noted and general merit h e pressed... it their turn, and over the heads of other allma thus simisa. Now, if all the °San over wham heads ether maw Were eer were to state that they had • to lammash as they had been pawed over, aad were to de diteltairy into their merits, I appre hend it woad be to say . where that inquiry was to mil. (War, hear.) The fact is, that the more your lord ship lash lato the matter the more your lordship will wee with me that, without imputing to the noble and plat earl mything whatever which may reflect t upon his WM. er dal sad without relennee to any Do upon Ishii he maw . milder himself aggrieved, when these mie- POlNtaillitalfalle between himself and Lord Raglan, the iesnalmt wee justified in sending out his neat. I e am atil I an held oat to the noble and gallant earl so gaper loam of oar °maidens( the determination to which we have some. I am afraid that I ems give Ida so answer to the at parte statement which he ha. made of the events whisk have attended the campaign in whisk he was sapral. Ido hope and Ina that, after the appal whisk the mile sad pllaat earl has made, after the eppestweitc whisk year kedeldp have kleraleeln him of Pang the whale eiresmilessee of his Ode unfortunate enii=Teeenoseverey will eiris hear)—ead I demote hs that when dB statement pee huh to OAPs, that it ell aid to the anzsetW of IP gallant general to whom we as dl se deeply ladebta--(liser, hear)—for the exert Seim chili ha is making In the Mid se battle, and that it = o ar miss the pealtisa via; he occupies etill men to him than ft PP ham hem treat tall that has pond in this country data, the maths whisk have gaped since hie absence. (Cheese.) Viseatat HARDINOR added ease MAW esplanatione of the warn adopted hy th e Wavelike towards Lord intridses in IA 7•t fit - I;llCift. The Duke of the Earl of DERBY, the Duke I Of NO/MIAMI, sod the Earl of LI AR DWICK3 briefly spoke, and, the Earl of LIICAN having replied, the motion was Wood to. DESPATCH OF BUSINESS (COURT OF CHAN CERY) BILL. This bill was read a mooed tine. COMMONS ENCLOSURE BILL. This bill passed through committee. Their lordships adjourned at ten ideates to nine. MOUSE OF COMMON:.—MONDAY, MANCE 19. The Sestsas took the their a little before 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The following private bills were read a third time end resod : —Folkestone Water Bill; Hearwithy-bridge Bill; I Panda Improviser Company Bill, as amended ; Prica's I Patent Candle Company Bill ; Raton Gas Bill ; and Bur -1 my_ Gas Bill. The Bombay, Bards and Central Dais Railway Bill (sescad reading) was pos tponed to April 2nd. Leave was given to brin ia the linglaad and Ireland Im proved Communication Bill, and several other private bills. PUBLIC BUSINESS. LOCAL MANAGEMENT OF TEE METROPOLIS. Sir B. HALL brosght in his bill for the better local management of the metropolis, which was real a first time, and the second reading appointed for the 15th of April. NOTICES OF MOTIONS. Mr. GREGSON gave notice that, on Friday next, be should ask some questions with referents to a recent notifi cation of the Board of Trade concerning the charges payable on British ships Jo the Ave ports of China. Sir J. SHELLEY gave notice that he should move this day for same further eomspondence about the case of Mr. sail. RAILWAY TRAINS. Mr. F. SCOTT had a question to ask of the Secretary for ilile RIM Thleirilaest. Three weeks ego ha gave notice liel he Amid orstisa this matter, which was of smilersbis impselases and he bad been waiting in hops list there well be sem gentleman mere particularly con soled with tie Bad el Trade to reply to the question. In bad always saidemesed, in sower to former inquiries. Swathe matter was uslerring investigation between the Beard of Trade sad tie sallway companies. A short time ago, a very maims smiler occurred, but during the two ears that be (Mr. Sr* was ehainnth of a railway sten y posy Mae am bow member was called to order, and reseeded to pal hi swiss into this form.) Having eemblished ea the llestilllesters Railway • communication between the (sari Mid mine driver of every passrger train, whisk was rissipally of ay own invention, and that 'Araks having bra is see fee two years without any raider, I wish sew le ask of bar Marety's governmeat d what sir hise loess takes by the Board of Trade, an what steps kis reposed to take, is order to oblige every railway company te oNallish salt a eentraareatios. air G. GREY said that a bill was prepared last session with the view of draft that object, but that owing to the lessees of the smiles it wee sot brought in. A circular was, however, addriesi to the railway companies, and the eor reseemleses to OM ft led had since been presented to •ME bed boss prepared, and would shortly is Il m =sesd by lib mile friend the President of the Board d Tide. TEE ORDER OF MERIT. SMELL said that before C , hriststas he pro. gsti l l e t hi here he ress her Majesty, es sa ls is the ateldiElmest lbe et es Oder eld of Merit; and the this of the beer mid the seater Arid be taken into oaths Duke of kissed* had since said tow* as sir would be establialted; the treed= he swirl to ask was this; wadi lie sable lord, the Pik Lied of the Trersary, tell bit grislier the germs.' bed decided to fiend the imekstlas of es Order of Melt • sad if so, whether the area MB Wendel le be a few a nd distinct ass, restricted to tie fairy est naval services, and ap ble to eve cell% eels whether it was determined to unielletirAlL.llll7lll3lloM. I the blokes at bar Me tetai=ratrt, as bi was ea o aliS e red er ii I t = k ai vx dou. seseets f none k will imp lor to both SWIM bemuse we ber merit will be is both atlas& (Cheers.) The arrelagelnlSlSSlt=stlitatice have mart boo set tied. Istsmatis hes bass see& for in mbar santries, in which similar keilsk/ss mist ; and use that Warms lea is obtaird, the greentstutt is not able le flaw die ragsbetimis emit willi Sat seder will be distribeted. GOTEIGINNIT 011 THU lONIAN ISLANDS. Ns a GROGAN mill GM a nisi time ego. mines was mid about SM Lest WO Oimmidialla 0 the Inks \ Moles ad Ike "same gm, that wellmine had bees eased to a right hes. breast lately the OW Souramy for Island. bat set assellsi Is mold ask an, trer my send balmstioa bat pot boss mode Wil k e Sea Ma. sam so to Inaba be wish omen the te weas tates o t, end U ass, how lei that uppoistmeat mold Sir G. OBEY said the hen. mailman had sot quite se. reedy sadesellsed his Omer es ewer. What be led sail watt isms beloatimi Gatlin espelstamat should be un kind ea the sight his. mallemse; bat that he (Sir G. Osey) wee ait put swam that No eight boa. 'skei s nm hi em lt . swam ihr Cana at imeally semen it. the T km. sestina= bal sow dose eo. GM the emannos would. is made sot as sent se be &sod be away is s ome 0.. 4 essersian t. Nr. GROGAN this ismd the Alie Speabiet tr At be heas4 for a sew demise for till "slaty of Cass, is the isms of Sir John Tort AVIA to. owes sa_kailli say deltas ipt the bill. If, therefore, itt should the It la d the house to clibsOthe bill to-sight, t Win lifehabil no ernesldat for so Si peepose say *utmost eta eider do the emend reeding of that bill, which ts azia this sushi. If, however, the house is WWI* le nat. to ay stassmost sow , sad postpone the &heti lotn the seised readieg, I shall be reused to praes sd holtedists4 to • Kr. DISRAELI—I thirsts is would be Tim • wsnosient the loose to be favored wish the statement of the right has. gostbsoas sow, u thus is eossiderable of tensity with must to the oast meaning of his resolutions. (A laugh.) The &sum then lift the slab, and the h Ism wait into committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER punned= Kr. Bowerie— ls the year 1851, a seat eonassittee sme &P -rofane% on the widen of my right hon. friend the i am ber tor llnehaster, to inquire into the question of the newspaper stamp. That committee examined many ems= and investigated the entire subject in considerable detail. They embodied their opinions, the result of that inquiry, in a report, and that report terminates with the following passage :—" In =adagios, you, committee con sider it their duty to direct attention to the °Mations and abuses incident to the present system of newspaper stamps, Brian from the difficulty of defining and determining the mining of the term news, from the inequalities that exist in the application of the Newspaper Stamp Act, the sauna lies end endow thereby occasioned in the postel arrange ments, the unfair competition to which the stamped news papers are expend with the onetamped, the limitatioas im posed by the law on the circulation of the best newspapers, and the impedimenta thrown in the way of the diffusion of useful knowledge regarding current and recent events soma the poorer classes—a =Kiss of knowledge re lating to events which must Interest them, and awaken their euriosity sad intelligence' The Ina mines then said, " How far it may be expedient that this tax should be maintained as a source of revenue, either in its present or in a modified form, your committee do not relate: other considerations, which are beyond their pro vince, enter into that question ; but, apart from fiscal con siderations, they do not consider that news is, in itself, a desirable subject of taxation." My right hon. hand (its-. M. Gibson) followed up that subject in subsequent sessions ; sad in the last semi= he brought forward a resolution which, after debate, wee carried by en unanimous vote of this hem. That resolatien is in the following words: —" That it is the opinion of this house that t e h laws is reference to the periodical press and ne ws piper stamp are 111-defined and unequally enforced; I l end it appears to this house that the subject Idemands the early onsiderstion of parliament." That resolution, sir, having been agreed to unanimously by las house during last senile, the question naturally came Waif the consideration of Lord Aberdeen's government Ming the noses. The subject fell naturally within the pro- Ibis alb, right hon. friend the member for the Univt nity id Onkel. The plan which he submitted to the maiden *. of Ile gnomon is now before the house. It is lOe . substantially, the abolition of the newspaper stamp as a Wiffiralsory stamp. The reasons which pressed epos Lord Alielless's goverment at that time were, partly, the meeliMen moieties of the House of Commons of the l state the anomalous durio g which bad last main ; and partly, te aw peen up of late years under the administration of the hand Board of Review. That anomalous state of the law, which was fully avestigated by the committee in the year 1851, grew from relaxations introduced for the purpose of meeting the views of a epodes of periodical publications which are now known by the denomination of " class _newspapers." The first ease, ea I understand, in which relaxation was admitted, .was that of a literary gazette, which contained merely critical notices, mere re views, and wes not a newspaper within thentrict meaning of the law. It was found, however, by the managers of that sear" that it would be convenient that a portion of its eindelks should enjoy the privilege of the stamp, in order thin it should be transmitted through the Post-office ; sad meestingly in a portion of its impression a few lines of *bad news were introduced, in order to qualify it for a newspeger stamp. In that manner, the priple was ineeiriel of a partly stamped and partly unstamped lIPIONiss. That principle was afterwards extended to a kip number of periodical publications, relating to objects dish interested particular classes—such, fa instance, as painans; there were publications relating to law, to =lto architecture, also to horticulture, and various 114 111seters. In all them oases, by degrees the rale was mallihed that they should not be considered as newspapers subject to a compulsory tax, but that a portion of the lin- I I pression might be stamped, for convenience of gransmission through the post office. After a time a pestles of then periodical publications introduced news he the proper sense of the word ; it was not political news, lust it was literary news ; it was news relating to the legal, the medical, sad to ether prole ions ; and there can I be no doubt that esserding le the stela manned= of the law, a large wassibee ettheS dais et gmblications which en joy id a pedal kincesik hen the stiesp were newspapers is the Mist eassming of the law, and subject to penalties if say perdesef their intents were =tamped. These relaxa tion had hen, however, established, and this was the state' and peonies which my right hon. friend found in edam during the last mess; when the gabfest ime under his consideration. If the go. weenie= had decided to disregard the unanimous reedaden of the house, and to attempt to enforce the law this class of publishers, they must, in order ter2seghlradministration uniform, instead of anomalous have ghosted p ro secutions to be instituted against thii Ike NI Ai •or they must have come to parliament fees MO= • 'the existing law more severe and stria. t. lb, my rig t bon. ra friend decided, and in my opinion be minket • very wise discretion—he decided not to at tempt tosender the law more stringent, but to relax it and lie Isabela 'Worm. The plan which lam about to submit to tam Imes is identical in substance and in principle with the pigs if my right honourable friend ; the details are sot Weed/4 bat the plan is founded on the selfnme prin. ciple l _a= whatever credit may belong to the adoption of it, it wag to due, not tome, but to him. Now, sir, the outline of the bill whi ch I will ask the permission of the house to lay on the table, if the resolutions shall be ogre= to, is fended is the knowing principle : To abolish the legal dada's of s ancepaper, and extend the existing rules with riven le newspapers to all printed periodical publica tions WOO SWOT at intervals not greater than thirty-one da da r d Zia nand to ell periodicals falling within that She pressed pest =lt respect to the publica tion a my t a stamp will be re pealed ; and i a t i M agel be optimal with the proprietors dramisr periodical, either te Mop any portion of their ' on or to leave it elle yam untamed. Is other rapes's, ifZeline to the 1101111Iplaii and apply fee Mar es to print isyrk. of their paper, they will lm enifeet to preeMly same rale with respect to ' supiefilial entente es s newspapers are subject to ; , that is to say, the AM sliest mpg contain 2,296 superficial ' Mime, covered by a Me, el li. and the se ond sheet may ! nano 1,141 vane lms e, mend by a stamp of id. • In that mesa ! I repose to make no alteration, but ' simply to Mum the preent limit of :siding entente 1 to all periedisal publication whisk' appear within ' thirty-on days. I further feeneee,si‘that with regard to ' all *Medical sublimation alit MI gasp say prertbm of 1 m& eivriklika. Sky shell he inkhoot to the plant isle i n s gesteineks and milks Thies rule% ikon ' nibs ibilming eliet:—Any penes new lookout el pleb " Hebb. a semposer, makes a deeleratioa at the ofike, and be toreiehat a copy of every sumber of hie 1 Unties. whisk is iegistered at the Stomp sad Ike lesaustien et it is evidence' of po NOM Om pinny Mt publisher of that unnpaper. Ifficepemi that NW of say periodical is desirous dil gloird ie ga g Y of his periodical, that he shall be ea** Tulsa with regard to securities. I ' fortbee that should be subject to the existing roles le winks. At present the proprietor of =li Met Wad himself in recogaissnoes to a en ema he is bound to produce two sureties in Leaden 11 wenn of 4001., and Gaon country to ate emest o f 11911 to newer say pros or civil motion Ns- libel whirh may be brought against him. These pm peovianier, in the Medici law which we propose elle gilds with regard to all newspa p ers rump' VI 06 7 Pr elks of theirp u blioatises. The reasons we pre gem to Teton then provision is the exlsting low are the t sae time it bee bees the policy cif this sentry a o silke so &anguished fr om pam phlets is d ether Soil or not political, which sr e set the of an except and sewn , . with regard to seserities against libel. The ana w ,elfin these neuritis' have been canvassed inn Sim onse t wad the pelisy ef then my be assidered ,as ands& It that to be kin tbat poilv_eas be = erguntest. llllll is 1111 mantle' IMMO. sewspopets th e lets sad ether Smiler pubbiatiese with man kw el OIL The newspaps2 r = penning Taliketiss. bee es inebikbed whisk is, to a griel Meat. Ilinteal ever thi whole sentry. That elessleties As also skean& anus ; :it flies es tis s e i g i e the peat on the same day to every part of the Tbeessav is that say Ilbelloss natter tin eliiinater any taint dual simian • Taub meta &stringing banns than is the ease la a ratification dESPa to a pamphlet. There are antt gentleman in this knee she bashed experlese; m of the publication of a l onging i n al m ay know with w hat &faculty I cpusphlet struggles into au* -4111 ltm with reg ar d to new spa pers. ir ligir re7s7 ijiiir ire *units win Molted to *editions mad Mespbassou lash, and it was • measure bandana he pen rt, real or supposed, of the gentremC ° however, found after some =es then sere Valuable neuritis@ which might be ex tended to the pub,* and anordingly by a subseintest est actions for private libels were brought within its provi. siou. The consequence is that at present every private penal who brings an anion against a newspaper is pro tected by the recognissams of the proprietor of that newspaper. Therefore, if the provides& to whist! I have adverted were repealed, the securities for good order, whatever may be their vane would be taken away, and not only that, but a most va luable severity to prints indi viduals, whose characters may be tradused is noweripers, moat be gone. For these =sons, we repose to continue these provisions in the bill abort to be brooght before the house, with regard to all periodicals stamping a i r m r • - • pr lion of their impression, and those volwaterily jag thenselvss seder the operation of the stamp area At the same time it is right for me te nate thee these provisions an no essential or neseseary past of the plan I shall submit to the home ; they is no way affect the exchequer, and they belong rather to tke general gusting of the criminal or civil law. Her Majesty's government believe them to be founded eon soiled policy,. and in thin belief they proem that these rit= be continued. I hue now stated is general terms the effect of the plan Fpropose. The effect of it will be to legalise the present role with regard to dais publieselone. With regard to sand publications as the Builder, the Ake mauve, the Medical , Times,. and tie Medical (arms, ,they will be pensitted by the law to retain that indulgence Istria they now possess, preen sally it defiance of • the law or at least =sanctioned its the law. They will be permitted to retain that exemp tion, and vs stamp snob portion of their impression as they think fit The same Ityisletion will be extended to the whole of the rest of the peas, the political newepepers, such as the Tinws, or the Morfsing Herold, or the Morning Ad vertiser. They will be subject to precisely the same rules as the Atheneum now is 'object to. They will be per mitted to stamp that portion of their =pension , they wish to send by post. and if th e n/ . be sap demand independent of that which is wanted by transmission by post they will be permitted to publish that portion of their impression without a stamp. Beyond that *hang, Ido not :prop= to go. The bill which I beg leave entomb to the hones will be confined to that. I would now, sir. with the permission of the house, examine certain objection which have been made to this plan, and which have been represented as fatal to its successful operation. One of these is, that there would be great confusion in the printing establishments, in priat iog a portion of the impression on stamped paper and a por tion on =stamped paper, and, consetneestly, loss to the pro- prietor of the newspaper. Now, air, I have used my best endeavour to ascertain how far that objection is well founded. In the first plan, it may be stated that the number of the existing clue ;papers, of which a return has been moved by my hon. friend the member forWestainster, is not less than 137, all of which publications conduct their business with • mixed circulation of stamped and =stamped copies. With regard to any one of that numerous slam of I quasi aewepapers, the presumption is that no practical dif- I catty is found in a mixed circulation. The principal newe -1 paper, however, which publishes a pinion of its impression lopes stamped and a portion on =stamped paper, is the periodical which is familiarly known to all the members of the house—namely, Punch. Punch published 425,000 stamped copies in the year 1854. I understand the gross I circulation is about 40,000 a week, of which 8,000 I are printed on stamped paper, sad about 32,000 as =stamped paper. I have had an interview with the manager of that periodical—(laughter)—not , he the purpose of inquiring into the manner in which that 1 , herresting publication is compiled, but in order to inquire hte the economical part of the management, and he was so Pod as to inform me that not the least difficulty arose with the printing of that paper, that no confusion in 7:rtin te g the mixed impression partly on stamped and partly on unit imped paper was occasiesed ; and he described the difficulty to be, in his idea, altogether imaginary. I have made further imply= of the publisher of the Athel444M, which is a publication printed partly on stamped and partly on =stamped paper, and I was in formed that about 3,000 copies of the Atheneum are printed on stamped and 4,200 on =stamped paper. The gentleman connected with that paper stated that there was no practical difficulty in conducting that paper. It was said, moreover, that the number of stamped copies varied according to the greater or less demand for certain numbers; and, moreover, that at the period of the year when many gentlemen went out of Lon doe, there was a greater demand for stamped copies, in order that they might be sent through the post, instead of being famished in town, 'but that them temporary varia tions were easily adjusted, and that there was neither con fusion nor loss. I hays further consulted the proprietor of the Illustrated London News—a gentleman of great expe rience with regard to the management of newspapers. He has brought the circulation of that paper up to nearly 140,000 copies a week, and to is intimately acquainted with the management and printing of newspapers. He gave me his confident opinion, that no difficulty would arise in the management of his newspaper, or in the managementof any daily newspaper, from a mixed system eletamped and =stamped espies. Another objection more serious connected with the management of a newspaper has been presented to me by various persons who, both orally and is writing, have described a proposition which repealed the esmrdson newspaper stamp as s most dangerous to society. It is described to me as a measure which will open the floodgates of sedition and blasphemy, which will inundate the country with a licentious and immoral press, which will undermine the foundations of society, and sow the seeds of revolution broadcast over the land. Now those expressions are not an exaggerated representation of opinions which have been expressed to me from many =erten, since this mean= has been in contemplation. I regret to say that my right bon. friend the member for the Dal- Trinity of Oxford la considered an accomplished advocate of these wicked acd dangerous designs. Now, sir, I need not my, that if her Majesty's government believed there was any foundation for these views, or for any appreciable part of these views, they would not propose the measure which I am now submitting to the house. They . have great con fidence in the stability of our institutions in the solidity of our social system, in the loyalty and good disposition of the people— (cheers) —and ihey do not believe that any in , mused facility of public discussion through the press will lend to any such consequences u those which have bees described. (Hear, hear.) But we are not kb merely to conjecture or indirect tenoning with I Visaed to the probable character of a cheap =stamped rem There are already in existence a large class of publi ames which, not =staining news, are not subject to the demp, are published at a very cheap rate, and circulated most extensively through the country. But though these wablications do not contain news. they would, if it were true that the public of this country bad so insatiable an appetite I fie immoral and licentious publications, be of a very differ ent character from that which they now an. I beg to call the attention of the committee to some of these publica tions. There is the Illustrated News, published at 64., which circulates no less than 130,000 copies a week, and its circulation, although it is published only ones a week, is second only to that of the Times. It is well knows, and I need not say that Its contents are perfeetly innocuous. But there are other publications which are =stamped, which are sold at ales' price, and which circulate very con siderably among the poorer classes. One of these is a periodical of which, I confess, I never heard until recently. It is a peony weekly periodical called the Ludas Journal I am essilbq informed that its circulation amounts to 610,9110 espies a week, which is egad to 26,520,000 per sesseekexesteling by 11000,000 the edentate& of the rinse, \although it is published only ones a week. Now, I have mesmined some numbers of that penal, which somewhat assemble' the Penny Magazine, which was so well known elms years ago. It appears to me perfectly unexception able in point of morality. It may DO not of the most in structive character, it may be rather sensing than =true dee, but it does not at all =respond with this hightfal pietas* of cheap periodicals that h i s bees drown by the objectors. to a cheap press. There is ' ittellbse eshileation called the Painity Herald, which ci nu. KANO a weak, or sliest 123 millions per anoint, the of which appears to be similar. These facts. must be eseeidered as showing that the spontaneous taste, of ti l e pes t = deems of this country at the present mome w c, w ith W le sheep =stamped publications, leads the ta to po ke a ekes of journels wholly innocuous in their character, sod quite free from all those dangerous stem enta whisk len bees held up to war eye. Look at the r evens e t the There were some years ago, I am in formed, mop Wee . six publications in London, one of &Ash um so use Se lbw*, and there were other pubUcati• f ns o f a g l om *MOM a a Unsling description, the illustratlsis goy. 101100 1 1§ 0 41 with the lettorprem. An inr i uit7 was mu t e os to these pstillealhas by a gentleman, • and he united me that that aegis dims of publications is e• L cwww. Thus wets some five eels villa he collected iv,. y a ms age , no , ass of width is MOW in existence,. mow, ham) Iv will be nedlected by members o r th e h ouse *oi l then was •highse slam of publicat' es sem rag 9.0.41N11 40 and the ffeliffeseebtelt enjoyed . • essrlisaible elsistelies leme fur ren-VE1.4_....., w hich ~.. hr , vs now owed to exist. It ma Ibe evils smi w ith Pee/sot truth, that no immoral Or u 11•11111111811 his • '.ong life or long enjoys an ex- Webs diesaleffifth (Beer , brer.) Another objection to the Peneeelebeerte that then would be one press for the sish end .units* fee the P *or. Now, to a certain enlist, tbst state of *he NW •CIOIII. 'f here are newspapers now 1 feetoftsfi • "ef eeeeede e Sibieraletion which are printed at a site Mos_ elatisM fatly and weekly newspapers, li gril ie rar• eadiibffeerff taken in by the middle and Vim. Two of these, nee called the News of the 7,171 es& uses weekly New. Those two newsp=t i n s : the Isnot alsesinthaa after the limes. Their :Zreeleb email Vet el any of the day pares. This elfeigeella whisk they eejoy Is due le the fee that *dr Ties le threepence instead stirs The gnat reheats* that they slay in the newspaper web" Le to be e'gribund eddy to e fast of their dwarfs pin. "*IO "45 if this result should be the mu le a elt -11411 0 • 1 • 0 * P. may be doubted whether then is say Mess he IVA. it. If the taste of the poorer clines prevents MHO et perusing and enjoying thanagnomen which' at clan ; if a elan of Bowerman for the workleg classes ; and if those 4 ueeful in their tendency ; it may that they should circulate amens I are not to assume that the class of es addressed to the working people .1 immoral or unsocial alteracterietice ; nose ;terses who dames themselves to , adulation, and to the Milhatem el sound .e masses of the people,will hen Mud a field and will be able to cesatesset any rais „anyone Or 11011i011$ opinions which may be einslated through papers ofethat description. The present necessity of Jamming • tax upon every copy of a local news paper has the effect of inflicting an injustice, and on tkis subject I will take the liberty of reading an extract from a published letter from the noble lord the member for Lynn. [The right hon. gentleman then read the extract in ques tion, which was to the effect that • a•wspaper proprietor who sold 1,000 copies which might go through the post, was taxed to the amount of 41.35.44., and that it was cheaper for him tosend them by private messengen • besides which, the whole of his impression required to be messengers; Now, esatianed the right hon. gentlemen, under the arrange ment I propose , it will be optional with the publisher of any seek local journal to stamp any portion of hie inn's mien i and whatever portion of his impression usataaped he may wish to circulate by means of managers, be vat be at liberty so to circulate. If, on the other hand, it is nave. nient to kiss to stamp say portion of his impression for transmission through the post it will be :competent for him to do se. At the same time, having shown that the publishers of heal journals will enjoy great facilities under the proposed law I may be permitted to espress • doubt whether any Renderable number of such new sewspapen win spring inteexistence. No newspaper can obtain any considerable attention which has not a large number of advertisements. It is by advertisements that hogs, and well eonducted newspapers are maintained. New small local journals will sever be a preferable medium for adver- Unmans, end they can never become so. The a per with so existing heal circulation being in posse nof the espied, and haviag the pretenses of the advertising public, wand enter into competitioa with asst smaillocal Newspaper which might be aMb d on the most admviageous terse. I °oases ninths nswampn phobia which the right hen. gentleman the member for l&s -les:ester has shoaled its some of his speeches, seems to me met on a very slender fsundation. Ido not expect that ameemiderable number of fresh newspapers win be atilt- . ; but if nay demand fir any such newspapers exists, the reality of thse demand will• be tested by the facil . itz i g areibliebing them if this cbangein the law takes plus. k smother objection to the prepaid measure which has been easadessed in another house wMali must have occurred to my dgbe hon. predemeor in' at? office, as it be e y warred to myself, namely, the Me of revenue, (Bear, hear.) , Now, if we bad at this time • surplus revenue and if the expenditure of 'e country did not greatly mined its menu% the newspaper' stamp wouldi have a fair claims to enter the list with other taxes, and those who ob;oot to it might claims that it should have the precedence. Thet, Yammer, le not the existhig state of the nuances, and if the house should decide in favour of this massure, it will be my duty to call ea them to provide for the deficiency whi ch will be occasioned, by some ether mode of Minion. (Bear, n ee.) The. Resent stamp duty on newspapers proclaim rather more then 400,0001. • year, and frie estimated that the repeal of the compulsory stamp wilt entail a loss of about 200,00 M. • year. At the same time there are some facts which may lead to the inference that, even after the eompulsory stamp has been repealed, the newspapers annum to print • considerable portion of their emulation I ups stamped paper. I will, with the permission of the Imes, state the facts with regard to the circulation of the =hu=e newspaper. The circulation of the Times newspaper emements to 59,000 per diem. Of these 33,000 are distributed by news agents in London and 26, 000 go into the country, 0 which about 20,200 go by railway train and about 5,800 'go by post. I am assured, on excellent authority, that abeat three-fourths of the whole circulation of the TOON ultimately passes through the poet, and most copies three ee four times. The number of copies which are seat by the post from the news agents alone amousts to 5,800 • nay, yet I am assured that ultimately at least three-fourths of the entire impression of the Times posses through the post. I was further in formed by a deputation from the editors of provincial news papers, that about two-thirds of the existing newspaper' are sent direct by post, and that part of the remaining th are also ultimately transmitted through the poet. These facts lead to the inference that the postage stamp is found very conve nient in the transmission of nswepapers,and that even if there be no compulsory stamp, a large circulation of newspapers through the post will continue. Moreover, if the alteration of the law should lead to say large increase is the number of newspapers, that increase would bring some addition to the paper duty, which would in some degree compensate for the loos. However, it is my duty to inform the house, that, I according to the estimate made by:the Post-ofilce authorities, I dle probable low of revenue cannot be taken at laa than about 200,0001. Such a less of us is no doubt at this mo ment an inconvenience. On the other band, the house should boar in mind the reality that is presented to them, namely, the receding from their unanimous resolution of lest session, and passing some measure declaratory of the existing law with regard to newspapers, and passing a mere stringent measure than those which are now in force to coi -1 lest the newspaper stamp. I have now only to add that it has been suggested to me that the plan would be rendered [ more perfect if it included all sorts of printed matter, and not merely periodical publications. That proposition in volves the question of a cheap book-post. At present there is a book-post; that is to say a postage of sixpence enables any book not weighing more than one pound to be carried through the post. They are charged now according to he different weights That system has been establishea, and it is competent for the I Lords of the Treasury to modify the existing system, and to , fix a lower scale than that which is now in force. How ever, her Majesty's government think that the question of periodical publications stands by itself as to the transmis sion by the post, and other matters on different grounds from books and pamphlets, and that the two questions ought to be kept separate. I, however, fully admit the importance of regulations respecting a cheap book postage ; and, if it should meet with the approb ation of the house, I shall be ready to take that matter into consideration here after. I will only state that, according to the information given to a committee that sat last session upon postage by railway, the following appears to be the comparative weight of the different classes of articles carried by the pat: Ont of 100 different packets, letters formed only 13 per cent., books 2 per cent., newspapers 76 per cent., and toys 9 per cent. Therefore newspapers now form the largest portion of the weight of the packages sent by post, and books form only 2 per cent. Having thus explained this measure, I beg to move the following resolutions:— " That it is expedient to amend the laws relating to the stamp duties on newspapers, and to provide for the trans =Salon by post of printed periodical publications. That any periodical publication, to be entitled to the privilege of transmission and retransmisson by the post, shall be printed on paper stamped for denoting the stamp duty imposed by law on • newspaper, printed on the like number of sheen or pieces of paper, and of the like dimensions with respect to the superfsies of the letterpress thereof. That printed newspaper (,Britisb, colonial, or foreign) shell be tram mined by the post between places in the Caited Kingdom and her Majesty's colonies or foreign count=ies, or between any ports or places beyond the sea (whether through the United Kingdom or sot), either free of pelage or subjoin to such rates of postage, not exceeding ma pence for sash newspaper, irrespective .of any charge foe foreign postage, as the commissional of the Treasury, re her Majesty's Post master• General with their consent, shall from UM* to time think fit." Mr. GLADSTONE hai listene A with great pleasure to the able and candid abetment of. his. right ken, friend the Charlet:ler of the Exchequer. Na quite agreed with the right hes. gentleman in the opinion whisk be seemed to entertain, namely, that it wocld be better to hove the bill prime, and that.sana brief opposhanity should be given to hoirmembers for oossideraties before they were called upon , either to enter into any full discussion of the measure itself, or to infinite any comparison between the merits of the bill need of the plan which he (Mr. Gladstone) had also had the honour to introduce. Parental affection had t he perhaps, an unfair judge, bat he could not deity that he regretted the changes which his right honourable friend bad introduced. At the same time, in considering a measure of this kind he thought that kis duty and the duty of the house would be to ask them selves—not whethe the measure proposed was the one that hem was in all respects most conformable to their own wishes oe predilections or even whether it was the one that was absolutely the p redilection, whether it went so far in obviating existing diMeulties, and was likely to introduce such mate rial and substantial improvements into the law as would make it worth their while is promote its adoption by the legislature i That was the spirit in which be should ap proach the consideration et the bill when it should have been lad on the t-ble. (Hear, hear.) There were only one or two points upon w hich he now wished to say a word. He had been very glad to bear his right hon. friend sig nify towards the close of his speech that he was not in disposed to give a favourable coasideration to the proposal to introduce into the bill, not by way of qualification or alteration, but simply as an extension, a provision which would establish a low and moderate tariff for printed matter generally. (Cheers.) That he thought would be • most valuable additioa to the bill. He could not conceive any reason why newspapers periodically published within 31 days should have po.tal privileges which Were denied to the feebler means and resources of those who might occa sionally, and under particular circumstances, wish to give to the public the benefit of their thoughts? (Hear, hear.) And with respect to one very serious portion of the subject, namely, the effect which the measure would have upon the revenue, he would beg to remind his right hon. friend that the introduction of a low and moderate tariff for ell printed matter would materially tend towards iadentnifying him for the loss which be was likely to w ain. (Hear, hear.) He would not say that the peasant tariff for transmitting books by post was et ell immoderate. when they came to apply it to what might fairly be sailed books—to works of a considerable bulk, such as the Qiewlerly or the Edesbergh, which approached the weight of a pound ; bat he would remind his right hon. friend that, SO fir as pamphlets were concerned, it was nearly a pro's!: Wary duty. (Hear, hurl Indeed, persons who wished to circulate publicatins of that description often found it better to send thi m Dv the ordinary letter post than to avail them , selves of the took post. His right hon. friend's definieloa of periodibsk would appear to render it nowesery for the '2,1 mogittuftiaPingurzosati,u4fwhoinpetisarebtebiouisi. m:htaiinadrnePesaute"ittrile:oluffobeukihi,ul:tl::::thi:ii_ publiargumentshefromrs m r w p s f e t o eoo i l i d t i confo rmeiala mustn i with h ui b m e s o i li m ited t. cert ain t ohi te amt benefit aakr wouldteli t e, l ,i . tm c b 4. 4: t h ' as o t aa e tii,----k- -: a n : t e : dw t " ,, i l li 4 4 1: 1, 4 14 I e p H e r e o w y s ti Ps io r Pe n . Gladstone) must coni e s, that he t ti li Pl % Of 6;l' . would al dnadoptingdg i n II) a his 't ic ul proposition, ar' ile a Pl 'f I t r h d I In ge -1-;: i t i --- , 1 :: creased facilities should be given for the circulation att ii . `s.t. matter, y)witobie:kil of1!:h 7:h:a thTeteteihihabfmridoemuittpgikorhineisi:: not declaration icmnu t p ee woonp r i t: th o h d rraoeatg i ut ea i la itiosettratio:a.w ,_ "iduaat. ( a ~i ii.......pii! , ..u....: I. a• . The next point he (Mr. Gladstone) adverted iiii with a . unwillingness, because he confessed that apron hii„,. whtheattesitsta::t'tolilubsee,fiLlet,saolto2l.l a, be entirely differed from his right hoe . friend! ' t -1 "" a The d i m time, if a tradeemas can tyciin ie uw d enhi,u.ytehi li fi is ;aaitdtt ci rhwahe re duima n du lar iums:::::Ly te dowash6.7 : iih lmaa :::_..t..rt: t:j•- • '' hoc. gentleman proposed that the use of the ine e •-• s tihi t el a :pu m rieng p wa s ponag b a o pa u a l rlzai d at i security. It was quite true that at the pleigii n t 6 T . of Inland Revenue he might obtain the '''''''', ii , 1:. although if the Board were to proceed ainig ~2 o ef se to be entitled to go into a court of justice and to ispa n i - Z, ... 1 - embalms an idea as to wish to make the arthaii,,,, l. o u h Bw: e v a I. e e Plnn deals b oiot e er t :d known , eetre throughout °thes newspaper obtainp notPeepresent :O:: which : postage privilege. ing."'-''''. Ci f: xi greigveiltAlrb securityi s advertisement that lffeineweetdot from,hi sheet tn o the tn a s namely, einl print newspaper, any I t opgha ought :a sad p b sa: 0 geared fr 1 ► 11 ; ' ' e. seditious libel. Undoubtedly that was a practice a ir - ,', l• law as it new stood ; but it was one of the • ri i ii l' inalii — T. aad absurdities which had induced the hones 1 t e., - ; to do, what it was not very apt to do, and ch i t ; n u- •- • tiho right and groundspo i h apt o r, a rt,nr private vc g a: t hinoe l gentle m an er e : si. this practice ; but he (Mr. Gladstone ) would ask, 'Whose was possible for the boon permanently to semi th ey ; that security ought to be given were quite intehigibk, - 1, was urged that i uch securities were seessury for the weref ba w ec e leni s h t o li o s io t dn th oh e : s pov e el ect itelye n: m ti e t a s ns to p en i l e: a ' t is torie, i ies" ,, d i Gladstone) must conies@ that be was sot of that e it „,, - • fact, i s m e t e l u to rilie def e R a th ie ft e:la r w li as e , wes (Ch i e t e ta ) t p T ri h vaes e s eh ntniii , pie i be given for the retention c 4 securities as a media* d postal tranarnasiee ? (Chattel If the protection stay ta anxious p n b 1 i c to q met, io, n a o t it utoame and m b e s o riel 1 isi ne p d ri a v n ate d les s ta p ti u me te . d ci ß u u e t ,, w i h on e re . wee valuable ? Why, within the particular when rim each.man resided. (Hear, hear.) But if, for iastuesu i , told • clergyman in a town in Devonshire that h de l i not by libeled in Northumberland, where he had as su. mellow, and where it was not important thee his thank r •.: theiril Ib' In baronet o h se u i Isedlaoa. securities i l,roo f i w d e w n n n : ,eoeldf rational te defended , boat wee°ls importanc eail basis, a s i b t quite 9 nt , clear i a g n h I d I'e thatml that libelled h a ' : they voila arit'h l . , Ito which he (Mr. Gladatose) came was the emotion ofea. right. He did not wonder that his right hcs. friend haw, Winded in hie scheme any provision upon that subject. It wee, indeedoesabject upon which it would he dank* the government to devise any plan. At the same WC,* proprietors of newspapers in matey eases entertained igen minty that the provision of the law with respect to he protection of literary property should endow, wales Mom and that it should receive an extension was toes* Itinerary property in newspapers. Undoubteglyo. le • whit was strictly speaking called newe-so far oaths sia massaanicatiou of facts, which must genera* be sow peened within • wry brief space, and might beagle' in any language-ea far as mere news was cozens& lie (Mr. Gladstone) did not know how they were tolerant. any farther provisions into the law as it at meant mei. But he understood from persons who ought to be well a formed, that their great anxiety was not so much Waal. tection of their news-strictly so called-as for the prawn of what might fairly be called their literary compookins- for example, their leading articles aad the Callinaltilli of their foreign correspondents. (Hear, hear.) Nov he • (Mr. Gladstone) was anxious that either in the bill of the right hon. baronet, or in some other effective form An protection should be supplied. (Hear, hear.) With to. ,' spent to the subject generally, he might remark that the question was not whether they would have a cheap pm,a , • whether they would not. They had already got a cheapens, , ; It was stated that one single periodical published 420,001 copies weekly; and that another publish.* 240,04. Hem then, were 33,000,000 copies published yearly of only tan i of the periodicals which. came out week by week in **S. 6 tropolis. How many more similar ones there might tele a weld not say but they had certainly already get a due prose. It was true that they had it not throughout the a country ; hut in the great centres of population, tad eye' : daily in London, it was there. If they might speak of , being inundated with cheap literature they might 10 e 'my that London was already inundated by these wacky r publications. (Hear, hear.) The question, then, wee on e whether it was expedient to have a cheap press, bitter .' their, when they had got it, they would give its or i , prietors the means of supplying to the people intellome o n f o p yo u l ti s l ad ic n ev r e o n m ta a , n in ce w s h ? ich oi th ea e r y w h e e re ar.l ace , cl l e h e e ply qu in li t u er o esei n : . or whether they would drive t hose proprietors to teen r petty and paltry, and compel them to cram their wean whether they would preclude them from inserting des i ; which formed the largest materials for conarierstioa lei i, reflection, or whether they would allow them to catenate r fair competition with other public prints, instead of Wig ' confined to those inferior materials to which it was %edict ' of the present law to restrict them ? (Hear, bear.) Fa ' his own part he was determined to do all that he email set free the press of this country, so far as regarded pat events and news of every description ; and to apply to • press those principles of free commerce which had almq been applied with such immense 'dyeing. to the gaud trade of the kingdom. (Chew.) At the same tics ho * fully admitted that so far as literary property went, re .. principle of protection was fair and .. `wt . lie CU not pre pared to say in what form that protection could baste 1 given, but he did venture to exp:ess a hope that the nib hon. baronet would not be indisposed to consider ay nate . • able and fair proposition with regard to copyright ;so the while establishing the freedom et the press, they night act • run any risk of breaking down that system under idiot . the highest talent of the country , had been advantned si p georalt 1 devoted to supplying the public w it h intelligence a discussion of passing events. (Cheers.) lie should raged the destruction of that system lar a great public mazes, • but he did not think that that destruction would at ell 10.- low as the necessary or the natural consequeace of hiseit/h hoe. friend's proposed measure. (Cheers) Mr. Gleans concluded by expressing a conSdent hope that toe billrho it should be presented to the house, would, on the etas •• meet with a favourable reeption. (Chem) Sir F. BARING said that one point had been pen over in a very unco m fortable manse ley the right be baronet, and is a manse: , yet mote uncomfer!able b s yr , 'Ox rig ford.hon. gear tle lie referred ha th the financial the operation of S ' measure. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Rowland Hill bid OW' opinion that the utmost: that would be obtained fro $ 4 ht man t member for I, nivoll . postage of newspapers mould be only 130,0001 p e r r ti i and even the Chancellor of the Excheq er u had man probable loss of nearly. a quarter of • million. The tO , hon. gentleman whc. had last spoken had ersed. opinion that the Chancellor of the Exchequer rad been able to replace part of the loss by careriaf t b". • a cheap rate ; but he (Sir 3 . Baring) wwasßina ati.! finances of the country were in su ch a state that neje!' not be able to aer;sect any means of raising mote! , en the newspaper stamp were removed or not. Odelz.r . 3 The right hon.. gentleman had b rou ght fumed thos sure at a moat unfit time. (Cheers.) Be tSit T. 2661 tier, o Lad frequently heard Chancellor of the Eacheq when there was a surplus, remind hoe. memben ir e was better mot to bring forward measutee foe thea_n,, sion of taxation until they bad heard the , statement. Surely it was more incumbeet ti them than ever to take that cows. on n the Pla Chancellor of the E 0 , 7 occasion, when it was obviou s that th ere dispose cf. (Cheen.) The Ch wee o ta t rt , „• well knew that every tax was an evil, and that ao* .! .„„ so easy as to make oat a strong CCM against any W i t _ ever, if it was to be coasidered bl itself. The prefe c t; ..e was to compare the tax complained of with other re . ra ising money; and, if the right hon. gentlemen ''xi to press forward the measure before the budget, te( Baring) 'build, if be stood in a minority of one, DP?' - feather progress. (Cheers.) 'ili 7 Mr. GIBSON said the r i g ht hon. Unmet whe ts ' spoken had hardly put this mattes an its prop er to ` ,„‘ It was not properly a fiscal question at all ; eadtbs!' eel_ to be told that this °Gantry was suable to deal wi that had led to a vezatieus system of p r osecutions,: difficulties of a serious character, bemuse it ino involved 200,00 01 . Of revenue ? (Hear, bear) 11 e, •, .1 Gibson) regretted that the Chancellor of the Fir' at_ . ', had left out of his plan a provision that is Mr. Gladstone'', and that would here .. e fa t to compensate, if not to more te ~,,,, the anticipated less of revenue, name()', the proPrtl , • bar ounces of any printed matter for Id. He aq: the right hon. gentleman would still consider the t rl, .. el inserting this proposal in hisbill. It we m fox oos the Times,which weighed sixnnitue ounces, should , f V. be permitted to be transmitted and re-tran whole term of their natural lives, and that they sr; . be allowed to send a pamphlet of four ounce fel'lt gm mice. (Hear, hear.) It had been broughtr, on abjection to this measure that it might lead t 0:, lades of a large quantity of improper publications .t_ wmali venture to say that for every bad ote a_, 2 ,: , geed am would be sent. There would be, fa.!_.',7,,, pat number of religious tracts, for, th5161:106..., anhakto bed at present no means of distributleg l i r, Iliad publications. (Hear, hear.) With _r_ell,t" Meteation of security , he quite agreed with Dit,:un, sad the Chancellor of the Ruh equer had heal r existing law with correctness . The present Isetriu*, _ Manch and state, published at a price leas ar i or emetaining less th an an area of 714 square _, r was also to make a declaration thstr r_ not to newspapers onl y but to all • Vtat t er payment of all his just debts. Tha . pe bllle It was true, was obsolete; bet surely ti_T i , - el for a registration sufficient for entent e _ a ,E;;;Tery printer was obliged to put bis nem_ "'„, l on everything that he printed, asto.. also to kry_,; siles•r....dest argument for its repeal. The 1 ,11 $ 1 . 1 ;i, everybody that employed him , oases *gir. gliz°ll to produce at the order M jute.* ''.• - A • r , .7 • • . . *I .#k • • , -.T v: - 4 AIL', '..1 0 G, MARCII 20, 1855. • .; .. \---- I V . I 4 /i ' * %'i • . 1 ,II , . .. -I . , * Niw A g: . It DTA •• • - . . A few copies an, in gest isstaseo, dis- ars prinlidl for a different Massed. If thews is so law rfn '„ . • sold 1 .......e , .... oat of p us , , I L *um= , so od_gi r ,l lelbuted voluntarily to select Indleibasla ; attossple an arises width is Winded for that tbe partimbe . ..„. made I..4ais publicity for it, buil 1 lines attantels la Inwipapertenbieral and the swami rule. I • '• ' I" •' • lOW do / • fbb NI" 4° ' " ua t° ''''' bre Bee very surceseftd, sal Vie pnblielaih t .... ,:oesamaidersilleasdvantage any sub esseplimk ' Wba -Mir all, lf her Xlieeter tome' Medea is lbw and limited. With regard to sas r, that Vet fir society. We ..pint the able sal Wiest earl wbfeb le sea- ' 1 " 1 " 1 " 111 9f °ls so, unp ; but isaemosb al on Wee sesdlisss are reversed —tho publicity ft to, newspapers erhick may be is la Imo& Ilegbes de ? Aild bore meat lle reefmt to the and practically, it may be Mid to, be wi ll be tainted with say in - intern sesnostblltWereMblablibmitn - oesp ostln zialandll-raibg- nli 1111" as I ha " W P.: il ilidisellisizeasana them . moms ,to Imo edgrbut and. at all smote , those v word whleh ha ases 84 b011m0d1_ 44 723.1 140 041 _,1r _,, 4041 _, pee. wblis tbe. bill I obeli sok the pub laillr. . Wife in Union of newspapers and ether the improvement of *duet ..—.2 a- I.i. Asmara Mr &Man •ra ag saw! Intnises le WI yet 14 ti house'. peiss mks. Is ties wbish ars sea applicable to opinions anions the cassess e. mail, Isis willibmisma• -Oen is abulbs, nassa r moreorr4 fir their labours, , and Lilil