The Express. — London, England, 1855-05-22 00:00:00

1; I, / IMPERIAL R HOUSE OF LORDS.—Moirrea2, MAY 21. The Loin Cunnom24l took his .at ea the troth.* Si 11 re eserak. Lord LYNDHURST preseutod • petition agelimli dome 42 of the Chsablidgo Usiversity Bill. as undies OD 11111 i the essimeish hotness the moonily and the 'buck of BA THE CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL. TM Duke of CAMBRIDGE promoted a polite kom din Worms a 0 11 M 2 e• Ddel•l4, essi hom maid TM LofRD C sas the Imam SN plum WI TOEAMOILLO OW R s oli It this wee lis nit their Mail. M nest the MEM sadist but he thought tbe oppsboadese esphisid e = l titimmit Were quite unikuoloi. Lord Porrius end dte Bed at Pomo also presented m aims opium cartels misuse the bilL METROPOLITAN! RETISMENTB. TM Ebb" LomDOST pie mane Mem the fellewhig Obis) Sop. be Medd mow the as MM. maims bs pre muted se bse M le Os 'shiest el moloopillMs Mta amts. THE IRISH POOR LAW. TM Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved he sepias of asp oar tmossiteess hotness the Commisimers hr edaisisseriap tie Mn for the relief of the peer is bind, ad say beards ef guardians or ratepayers siggeriliz a s2 proposed ai selationer amaigareatioa et WWI= in Lord CAMPBELL supported the soodoe, sad mid he sousidered that the espouse of the ramp( staff at pm. seat bon • propostaross proportion to the espouse of meta- Phis( the pool. Earl GRANVILLE said he had so °Westin wham's te the ptodastits of the r After a Saw nodee besaci « !.o was egessi th ea& the Bad wia0te,....... TRUSTS BILL. Os tbe metres of the LORD Catosommos, Ibis bill wee mad a seised time, IRA ordered to be referred to a relict etaitlttee. THE CUSTOMS DUTIES BILL Was readaatood time. SPIRIT AND DUTIES BILL. Oa the oars of Vaasa Canino this bill was mad • mad Sao RILIGIOtiII WORSHIP BILL. TM Bad se 1111AFTWISCRY, is Harlon the soma • sadiaist this bill, said Oa U thu bass sigma. Om sto lhei Oa dramas es els ion ="de el assosse add be M s+aag ism • At l REDESDALI mid Pet die WOW Of the MR was Ese a r l ay with the soossity el warns pres s of rib - ° worship, ad it was premseed bp perm WA/ ed with M. clergymen et u ri wi =, were Miens wise f attnellen as may of Ms is they MY to a im W halt pablis ha pima worship in WWI lies MOM Re residua the sesame • moot ob /effirsabbs eme, sal it had boss hurried Wash the same base atheist ay mitite. He would not, bowever, oppose it at tits prams stage, as the disclaim was is be takes at a later period. The bill was than read • woos/ Um* The Paeliamastary Reprautatias (esollsted) Ada Amea/most Bill and Ps Rivet/rim of Births (earised) Bill wore road a maid Was. THE NEW FOREST. The Eta of MALMISBURY rose to call the radios of bar Majoity's paramast to the isomdiary_firs Tobias bas lately Wigs Woes in and adjoining the New Fortes. Hassey had the grans and underwood in the fora boos sasesemd, bst • large number of her Majesty's obsessions led hiss destroyed, aad tams naiad palm lied speed hoped this purlisus ed the forest, end the Mildletriaere in the seighbarbood had suffers/ to a WIT Own esWat. Her Majesty's govemmest, however, bid pit tak•a so steps to amok the evil. From January to May. 1 10 4 , the number of fires had boss SI; the sambas of keeper had bra Mated, and dew , wise bed rushy bees appointed. were Whoa he was k Mae matey soma three weeks age, Is Wm dims se Me idles ad tie forgot Is a blase. With etM "le Mss et "Mee dweedstiess ? Their lordship were seiseetbet thollealey era my wild sae, sad remained meiii is the mom slats M l Is/ sass is tea astariss ago, as/ Sem tie Wilwarly halls ad the pools they required • lame clif fres Is keep them is order. Soma leasable 'lhninglit is • bin is imams arra pars d die Camil a = pawpaw ad Waring. sad deprive/ the aostmeirese/ a amain quantity of pass of but so great dissossant - weird. For nary pan Maim Weis ears had bra takes of the rights of the crows that a Pip anther of *quotas had Sad themselves is the Isms% whore lay dame/ a lma rights of pesturege slid mesas Ina When Mr. Ore was ecomativilase be railer sands/ them rights; bet leader the tree rite of Ws 11W0011114 Isetsedy, tam privileges won irately aseleiled, end the greater &arta was acted. Hs did net wish to rag saitMoi dermas Mr. Issnedy, she was sow name/ Area Moab* lord W Secretary at War had album • the idea ego of bring road men for rho read bliss as/ square son /sr the squats boles ; bat Mr. litssedy is. • threroornoral mar, a triaegulur who woad lima fit say bolo at all: Another ocompeses of the poilsetise si lb. auger of aspen was a great issumes at possbles. ad alms a remedy was roe oppirdi WI w pma is she forest would be destroyed. Thegoversisest bed, inked, lately offered a reward of VA Ar the dissaary of the isossiliaries, but as yet "Meet swam. If Use heist was to be kept up as as appanage of the strews. it ought not M ban alload to bans • animas to the neighbourhood. The New lamas is is prase state amid set be talented ' Melt toaster. lit Well MOO for the govereseat seriestly maid« .Iwielw bulb% sot to be disalforsota, and thu , teed broloht has seidestiou. If it ware detaratiood to i=t up is its patent tato, be would suggest that the mess et her Mejay's Mesa abseil be removed as it wee sow berms Lar impagible to boa asy rag a des swam road ies. eny ore, the • premeennint wept is take in salute mnessrsa a previa • seposhiond the Mao that had Opened the sari Sr OW twit two yawl. Merl ORANYILLI admitted the Ina ettho statement of as noble earl so to the sambas orbs* Veer great Ins bad marred sass dateemeasseersa d this year. Nary emartion was berg mak is detentes/ peak the crisisals, 11st, hem the selteee of the we, ilstsedwa was extremely Milleult; two us% bewsvan, wane sow is prima, and a sass bad boa WistiMM to the Aster (?sacral as to whether they moil be prossemad seder the 'aria asta. The somber et vdielotsa ha/ bees refined because the Aker of the feast gendierad it wadi bo better te boa es inereawd sembrrof *mean. The sr Wm of tie Oise remand dam is mmenkabis. As sees abi/wss.'M lad hew auseiled a die speed ei hesasdkeis mess age mat hos Laden %die dieraty sample Is sopp as oessy washes ha thasglie emiessary • sad the enemies et the lagentsmost had beansmisarly di'rested to Ps abject. He • Ihought ths sespiths ed the alio earl mto her Majestys betas was a way gee/ ass, end be _regretted that his friss/ the Hatred the Pssithands wos sot is la WOO. After a few weeds hem Lord Causal. and Lord Vivra, the matter /raped. INTESTACY (SCOTLAND) BILL. This bill was read • third ties sad pared. , The house thus adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Moituy, MAY 21. The Se took the dub at foss *Verb. Vim a wales of modes being elves by Mr. lionsom for ems papers relating to the eoisdeet sail ionises of Use Ise, empWs Christie, as enamaader of trweeperts in the Blank Sea, Me James Gasman took the opposiwaitY 1,2 =lbis bh ewe =otiose and bisadona is the &spate with Ms. Loynd upon that sehjeet. THZ IRISH SOCIZTY. Mr. brMAHON asked the Chief Set step fee Woad glebe , it woe hie bibs*w to brim in a bill this seeks to any set the newaseedation of the esenwirelenete sp. to WO» into the state of the esepseaden of Una- Ekat the Irish II viol , be dissolved. and ile 'batter by set of parliseneet. and its ► property vested is a new sea Ni neaten, to be appointed by the Lord Chaneelbw of blind ? Sit 0. GRIT said that the etandidemswe few bee the sorpeesties el IMAM Me ISSOSISISSerd 1611 Slabs Snell* is be the pespuie ef sefeeming the ',e lbow did set repose thee die dissemble of the ~ briny ebeeli bees pet dent bill, bet a separate bfII wee to be brought is be the etwpsee. JPAN. WARNER asked the Vint Lord of tho Timmy whether my privileges of trade with Janes had ressaiy hoes eaqutnet by ReMs or the United States of Amides ; mil if so. whether her Keyway's govermasut ward msal privileges for Britith subjects? Lord PALURESTON maid that Aiming Sixth( had elowebsded a J treaty with the ?ointment et ame. By that Mealy British vessels were t be allowed o eater sestets pee la Jean ter pureness of mealy and eitreshmest. No gessofelal stirdatiolle were esetsioed la Mummy with this *greeting. that British dare wow to be allowed ell pielirmie to Oita the wesdeat ether pears were waded. the Taited Beata bad la the male eta. pis mist • treat, with ha. stela theft Me dabs of eyelets perts audio the beads of this treaty WIT% woad be allied leader Admiral Seirlimea Paw (Lord Palsesees) as at area of ay tray batioleila sawed tats beams Saida wed bps. It ao that be elmestd Mali that ia the lasi &fag Orea l le= the plellight OA Ohms arairike. Ma sad Hillaad were pw W IIIPATION OF OFFICII/11 II THI HAM Visessm DALO?IIP1.1 skid the thederlisare= War wise 'empanels' woad be gaga to them who were ardeted alma their lases at Terns. sad that hemp a beard' es atasperts. ea Sodas is the Cram la relish.'. alai la M Oar meal tem - Mr. rill. said th at err fewedith mold he givis •ki ems when proper dans were side eat. WEITIRII4 1101LIDAYS —ADJO4II44IOIPT OFJ VIZ 000811. 114. TILZWRICRIMIC4he-Eiest Uri of the Tr= what day be titmice to impel" tree the beaus ' Mimeo few the WritiesatWe holidays. sad what "ley es 01%. If said be as pity isms Ihrii fl west be 427 f igat boa 1111=1111111 'Sidi haw the Mare. gad* omit letesisi re II"'"1"sla wi kalla ihat l'l.64l.,..:"«,"leFigigtessia. IrlibaPii :- . 11 them adjourn to the Wads, week followleg. theogill lent there would be so comedbate owing. - as May eller adjoismauss, es holes inesein would • j er a i : IMO Meld be taken. He • Ai• MAIN what MUM it Mil SO WINN bdore the 11:n. 7%; (Hear, 4 mon i st l a should =tea 1111.111 still the bums would me agala—md on Ow Thum d 1 gemumeat proomed so take the Irish Leadlord sad Thant BUM. It was deo proposed that upea the Friday SOU Woodsy afterwade the Mw amid go into ma mitoss of supply. ROMAN CATHOLIC PRISONIBiI. Kr. SWIFT asked the Smrstary el Kate for the Home DePlitosat whether it was Pm that Zemea Whelk pees= to the House of Comae* Weadmeenk, who do- Wm to Wed the Climb etiosised we eteMasii so their ramothe mils is meals Wks the Who el the ; Seedier prisesen tegelmed is Sawa While sem onlematimlly WWI by the posestent Week d the tealsiosd exeleekely with pistestest beds ef Weeks esslarrany, sad so amedie ammo od• WWI to them Wes whoa the gelsoner w ed a weld Alglimelies to mem meat sad whether dark( die se l= ei santior stasis Owen had bees wends el may, of whom illy a dross masked may sod ef retigLissikstrassies km a elerwass desk ? • Mr 0. (Hl= laid that this tomes had saisen fern a miseppshellska:as to the mew of phone whim the wpm rate epeeist VMS pursued. When that melon pormiled the prisoasee wows 'sly Semi to Maw Irk ma dudes the times kw wed* ma la osier to Mist Wise minim. Hems Mee Sri edema is Weil wise *my wen hit I. their selk With iseesamo to the mesa Wash et the quanta'. be kid to Mb dot it wis the arlipt the 'Sop hia to Mit say phew. It woit. be omet. sat the eel, Nat heeks of warmew were laraisimi to pima" ; the only hake of a &Missal ehosesem was the Whim sad premPhsek. As to the last pater the vodka. be bed to state that WM had bola gives to sassy Isms Wasik primmer SW they were seeftled to ham the onistime el say peke use d their ohimie. soil as indeed= kw De. Cwt. the Items "steak Wisp, had bon ekonieled amongst them to the same amt. MN KILN= GIBSON% NOTION. Mr. & /111113/11iT—Sir, meg ea the papa a WSW. the Aseision upon whisk may bootee the mast maimilows easseqemese to the whole of Berept, I wish beers it. air moles hes bees entered upon to make as inquiry of the esti leg es Ike head of the govermatted, karma as ll= Ire se* bore answer say dapped ay own memosissi awes, es abe that of some other members of this Moms. OW. hear.) I Mad at page 73, of the report el the Visas. Mahreases, that is the protocol of the 21M of April, the ressani el a confoream at which the aobie bed the amber far Lemke was preoset, the following paragraph occurs : "Coast Baal Ws sot madder all the Wilmot modes of esiatioa se exhausted, sad 'amide's it especially the Wit of Austria to look for teems of amesemodatioa." Now, ihm anemias. I with to put are them :—Does the Roble Wed at see bead of the govenuasat coaskier s ate that the dil emmas modes of Waking a pea& seta*. of OM premed dots d affairs have bees exhausted, does he wader all espidelleel to be at ea end, sad dem Amato 'wider it to be bee part still to took for some mans of arrommedatioa ? Further, I wish to know whether the coaterease is sow ONO dissolved, or is it still in sash a state, that my of its emiaben may make new propositions to the allied powers ? Lord RALKERSTON—I osa have so diemlty in orissoing the saestioa whisk has jest been pat by the hue. goatismaa. Her Majesty's sentiment certainly seem maw all the modes of 'dation or anapaest fit at lerdea at hem es exhausted. (Hear, hear.) Wi mookine that Austria is still charged by her own vela*. moyeriiiiigies. mad by the meant of the Allies, with the Mk elsimememnag to dimmer means of brinks about en sessamodetka betweaa the matendiag parties. The esdarenep although for the sweat empeaded, is am Away elesed. sad if say proposal were made whisk was 'metered likely to Ind to a satisfactory result, the ma- Mum would be prepared to meat to the entertainment ef that proposition. (Hear, hear.) I coo Daly add. that it would be contend by her Majesty'' goveranteat their duty to give the most !avowable waideratisa to any proposal which might mete to them doe or through Austria, with a view to the safe, homosrabk, sad settafeetery emanation of the war, bat at the same time I trust it is mansomeary for me to say that her Majesty's goverment would equally bed it their duty not to comeat to any arrangement which did sot saliciently satisfy the bosom of the country—(esdi ohms frog both sides of the how)—sad which did not also saessedally memplish thine objects for which the war we, ' , makes. (Hear.) Mr. OLADEITONE--Bir, I think that the answer which , has jest boa given to the question of ay right hors. (Mad,' *alga me in tasking an appeal to the right hon. member kr Manaltester. (Ministerial obsess, sad counter cheers kik the opposition.) The rasp gm* by say dote km friend wee hoes the record of the soaferesee IMMI es the 21st April at Vienna ; and Mos that, a farther altkileate took place as the 26th April. At that maim isle it Kaden proposal was tendered, a mead Mamba Ompoli, mod that second Remiss proposal was said by the 11111111101 ados of Austria sad Frame to be opts to ruins eMepj eliestioaa, but at the sane time to testate elemeats der farther dismission, and possibly for a peamable settlement of the gaieties at boas. (Hear, hear.) Oa the port of the reparentatin of England present, this proposal was met by the deelaraties that his instructions were exhausted; sad, nadir these einarastaaces, it appears to me that the right hosolusble amber for Manchestm was (slimly jeatided is suspecting that in ea far aangland was eisensed, sad with reference to the proposal this before the Vistas coskrease, that coaferento bad absolutely tensiaated. No doubt it is a natter of the utmost delicacy sad diflitraty for this boos to pees a judgment in ciroustaacee so 'Tided as to the gawk= at what point the aadisputed action of the executive government terminates, sad where the banks of this hoses to pronounce a Jed/seat en the eadatit of that goverment begins. Mr. RORBUCK—I rise to order. Kr. GLADSTONE—I shall cosclade with a motion for the adjouraman of the hoses. Mr. ROEBUCK—If you do, I shall sot raise the polat of ender. Kr. GLADSTONE—It appears to me that soma* to the record to which I ban just alluded, the right hon. sem her for Newham was wasted in believing that so far thin was an absolute torminatioa of the sigotiatioas at the beim before us, asd that the time hod arrived when be 10.1614 y appeal lo the home far its judgment es the sab - Pa. I oases, that assearrisg with bita is that maim, I think that if the house bed permit* th which blin bees ;wawa to lie on the take without cem meat, the pulls out of does maid be jwitided is Isaias to the amnion that the hems mmearted to the duality of the past negetiatioss, sad gun up all Myra a endesseat of the gotten is &mate. We ham Ahmed, and therefore it Is quite usseawary to cite, the Maw of ay Roble Mead at the heed of the government ; WI think it is plain that this answer leaves the cue in a WNW diarist trim that in which It a* whom it Ns* 11111b0 &ears*. of Lord Watmenlasd as the •at April, to the elect that his iastramisme were embodied. (Hear, hear.) Of mum, I gin weak to my kind, as will also the whale house, for the khakis al set seem tag iato the discussion of propooak which would be imam patible with the homer of the seantry. (Chess,.) At the Mlle tints I mikes that I feel, for me, very deeply the respossibility of iaterfering with the goverament is muse of negotiation whisk are still open ; sad I do sot think I misinterpret whet has falls, has say soble kind, l obes I my that theme negotiations are will open, boom it appears that caammiations have taken play which offered IMltatiall possibly far a satisfactory settlement. There ia so realm, I. my opinion, why advantage should set be taken of forum proseedings to me whether einsethieg say not yet be made of these materials. (Hear, Mar.) Tiader these circametaaoes, sad believing that the right bon. member for liaashmter has but ose Ojai a view, aaniely, the roe toratioa of pesos to this country it knowable time, and at the earliest moment what it ma be as obtaked—believing that he disclaim all motives of a party character, or any yid' e disturb the (marmot, or woks* its beads is the pro em:lisp which are now bong carried oa, I nature with gnat respect, having so title to meanie each a fanatics, to ask him whether be would sot mania* a ides Mastics I. refraining from asking the Mow of Commoas at the pretest momeat be a &Maids* *Maim sa sootiatioas which are still in po grom, end whether it would not be fair to all peptise, as well as sore ocadone to the oblate which every patriot mast have at host, to forego the oppartmity which was Obeed to him ands Mimeo idnamtmess, cad to semis, his own free dienretios at a future period whoa einem stamen may mere fully justify as appeal to the hoses. (Hear, hoer.) Liminkl ask him whither it would not be wiser sada print ebeemsteases to leave the matter I. the heads of the gmerameat, is order that they may not be 'embarrassed by illeemeloas ia this place, which, however they might whel. sink set fail of kolas aa injurious elect ea their pads& as the apse of the swastn—wbother it maid not be better to leave thin, free be.. difdroltke, its madnet to a issitimate esa4sdaa the mattsr which they have sow is bast (Heer, beat) I beg to mot that this, bows de Row adisara. Ms. b. mks this oppopanity of stating segapd to sexed the modes of my right ha. Mead ile member fir Meaehester, seal ease dews to es hoses with a perfect bastion of (galling my eagagemel. Bet, efew what has fallen from the right hon. smetber for Ozisrd thivmulty, I put it to my right hos. frisanitedier it woad be wise, or in the latheet of that pease wieh my right bee. heed bas so deeply at heart, to yeas his sedge ea the wheat occasion. (Load mermen Ow the Opposition) It is quite obvious the questa= weld cow he dimmed ends wry great difficulties; se this who approved of the lacticn must feel diffident about probe it bow, when hey find that negotiations are still acts* going es. (Criss of " If e, no," from the Opposites.) ltalak het my right hest. head will 'sly wends* a wise discretion a post• wain his motion ; sad if negotiations should, whppfiya ultimately fail, ha sea take another oppt meaty. (' Mow, laser," and intimatioes of distant from the Oppositise) • Mr. DIBRABLI-84, it is a long time sines shame has witnessed seek a mesa. So porta. a piece of smkg Icon seldom bow got up for ear entertainment. (Load Op& ties sheen.) I think that after the extreardisary, sa believe, moss impolitic request of the two right honorable gestlemse who have so suddeely rises this ever be, the Howe of Commons and he matey Mau • sight to demand from the goverameet sem& monemellit declaration os the subject of these ammillisme we have yet bee. favoured with. (Chosen) We has, I coshed, a right to know from the noble lord what is pally the position in which the washy is now placed, will to ▪ to remit earthily.. ;in short, to have much Sore informatics than seems to hem satisled the two right be.. pathos* who raised this dissertator. Why, sir, what is she state of the wee t The noble lord tells se that M be lieves he ow venture to say that he hopes it is not impos sible that pease may yet boob:shed, sad that all the means of solving the political problem have set bees whausted by the distinguished men who now possess the cochesers o f the sovereign sad the country. (Laughter.) Bat has the w igs lord stated any armadasaa which mq in. does us, the representatives of the people, to oppose that there is any light by which we may guide oar °midget at a stoniest so Moult as the present? ail he gime us say=id to justify us I. forbearing from say a:prosaic. es of at the present moment ? No, sir. ' 8 W hlh than is life there is hope," hems to be the only guide to the polity of her Majesty's ministers. (Load opposition sheen.) I es sure that I Would be the lam man is the boats who wield too strictly define the limits to which forborance sash to ran ia the wane% of an opposition whoa grave negilishas for war or pesos are peadiag. I think it is our duty to plow every possible socildows In the wistog go. vosamon: seder seek einorestaness, sad it the none lord led some to us when his ussueoessful plenipotentiary made his re-appearanes in this house, and had mid, " Although my baffled eollesgue has rose back to MOM his duties as fiemetary of State, I have the shisfectiot of informing the house that the mow he a solution of the peace problem are by someone sekeenieL We have still hope; sad therefore I gust in ties gewleles eseadenee of parliament, sad the poetical good mew of this assembly, not to prom me to lay ca the table the 'words of our unsuccessful aegotiations"—such • in aggeal wend woh I ma sera, have been made in lain to Ihn fletbearesee if parlisaeat (Load aims of "Hear, hosif.") Bat what Ms been the actual conduct of the noble lm d? The noble hued has placed in the table the records of dues negotiations whisk had been undertaken by his col league who sits sear biro, and by another representative of her Majesty, who, it appears, has since, under instrattioss, formally acknowledged that his powers of negotiation were exhausted. Barely, when them papers were plated en the ' table, it would have been well if the noble lord had followed ' all precedent in similar cases, and had himself been the leader in an attempt to elicit the opinion of pulia mem% But the noble lord forbore to fulfil that duly, awl Ise independent mamba, sot connected with the go /enmesh exercising his legitimate sad proper privilege, give sone that he will propose an address to her Majesty, enemas( the opines of the house on the contents of thew papers. Did the noble load then rise sad say—" Although I have exhibited soli POSAiDB•O la placing these papers an the table for the satisfastion of the house, I do not wish to raise • Memnon ea the subject of the negotiations, be ague the means of solution are not yet exhausted ?" Net • word of the kind. The noble lord gave us no encourage ment, but as the contrary, disturbed the natural order of the buses' me of the hoses to give an opportunity for the eight hon. gentleman. And now, when the whole oniwitry is expectant, the noble lord having himself given a day sad Man an occesion—now, by some mysterious and sinister ammassication, by mere mom as rapid as Mee wilt* OA aessmanioation from Beakless to Downing ousel, dia Rakes of the 'able lord have been trassanitted below Ilis Ipherway ; sad the house being assembled to give its Maks en these unssecoseful negotiations, and • member of So Privy Council having provoked the diennion, the wills bed rises, and moats that, without the slightest sem mmodemako of any particular, but merely with a vague do ing= width he would be jastified in making if there Men wawa hell balesable prospects of bringing stairs tt an Migielses _idea.e :peat. that this great disowns dein* be dinnell without • =unsay, and that we should at ones moods to the muse whisk best suits his own wave- Moses. I do set knew what the right .hon. member (or Meashester means to do with his motion ; but from the re markable promptitude of the noble lord who bad Mended as do him the hewer of seconding it—(laughtn—in rosicading to what I will describe as the most sureameable suggeetioss of the two right hos. gentleman—l say teat seeing such extraordinary promptitede, one is almost afraid that the proposer of thew resenting as well as the esecanr, has Wks into a peados mom seamiest to the goys/swat than lionosisba to himself. (Lon opposition sheen.) I ask, sir,—As there nobody to be sossidued,—is there nothing to be cossidend but the oenvemieses of the Lamer ? (Lon sheers.) What are we to suppose the °natty will think of the ashibitin of this evening ? (Cos tae's& cheering.) Barely, the estuary will call for some eapanaties, them aegotiatioas bevies nee main se to Mak teemisaties, mad the pasiptentlary having returned dadliks that kis iminctions were exhausted, and sorely I Me they will meet that the minister should make a doelsestion, cash enquires:al, and explicit, to stow et keit that we are aot tridiag with the laterals of the ma dos. (Rear.) If we waive such emplane**, we rename as a parliameat en of the highest and most solemn of our *aka, which is to express ea opiates on nage- Mks' which have failed is procuring peace,— *We will thou be salloisat grounds, especially la the cos daft of the ministers' Acid sad unaficiel supporters, for placing the Hoses of Commons in anything bat • favoura ble light before the country. (Hear, bear.) Visemat PALMBESTON—In reply to what has fallen ' fres the right hon. patisman, I am prepared to maintain that the comes which I have alma with regard to this Setae has bees throughout uniform sad oesektent. The "Mkt hon. enthuse celled apes me, on • former ocession, M lay on the table the presomilisp of the conference. I aid him that I would do oh es I thought the country mai tiod to have theme proceedings in their panda. Those pro oweiliam. !hash the right hon. gondolas bas been pleased to sepeemet se usesessedel segotiations, have, I beg to say, hens modsseed with the greatest ability by my sable friend; end if they have not resulted in obtaining our objects, the grip has not lain with him, or with her Majeure geossasat ; wither is it to be attributed to our ally, the Emperor of the Freseh—(bear, hear`,—nor eves to our ally to a certain degree, I may say—(s le ugh)— the Emperor of Austria. So fa a the moral font of law goose and the ezpressios of friendly mentimentis p i se keit, I septet, can be attributed to the gems tamest of Amnia. The fault lies with the governmen of Rena, end with it only. (Hier) The right hem.. gentlemen need os me to do that which he send hat 'assa go es oa ailer oeswiese—sasegy, to SOSO down w ith a message 1111 s the bows to obtais the *dos of p o th o s oa o am M Wares which bad bees takes. What was the answer whisk I to the right hos. sestina a ? The h efts pp , Whim it. I said—" 1 will de nothing of the Mad, bomb if I do it will be shutting the nor egVost all farther pep *bow or hopes of peso." (Hear, h oot .) I said that I NSW sot shut that doer ; sad titer Abe I mina that the l obby width ths right has. Swab Ana sow brings easiest Mof set having MK Irailli 7 l impose is sot jug fell by the owe whisk I WIG pursued. (Bear, kw.) Islated Wiwi so 1 slats sow, that I should set resesees all Iwo free futon sewn/Abeam. sad that I weald set Übe say step whisk might shut the doer and reader all asses of seiwaseoclaties impossible. (Rear, hear.) Bat Ibis the Tight hos. ses'ilebas says that 1 esesanied the right hes. member to tiring forward his modes. The lime .• , , X 22, ;, 11 , , by his Nilsen" .4 how might ester upon the signiations. I said that the right his own dimities, but that ; pewit would be attended the same thee edding that It to say member of the hens. reason why I believed that _.4 deeply on those matters would &b -ean from pressing this queens as the pondered= of the hone in the pretest position *Cafes% bet the right hen. member for Membrane did eavertheises thigh right to give *ones of his motion, and then what was the course which It beans my duty to panne ? Should I, on the part of the government. have *rank from the disow ns, sad endeavoured to stave it off by technical delay? (Rear, hear.) Os the contrary , I thought that the duty of the government was boldly to fen the right hon. member; and although I disapproved of his motion, although I thought it calculated to lead to discus sions whisk must be injurious to the country, if the :Tight hon. renew thought otherwise, I had no alternative but to say, " Here we are; I will give you ea Gaily day." I have does so; and now I come down to mast him by pro posies a positive negative to his motion. (Kialsterial chats.) I say then that the path I have followed has been plata sad simple, and that them is nothing which requires explanation. We laid the demesne et the table because I *wept parliament entitled to k -es them; bat I -Medi nos take the step Mibe eight hiamemble Mamba for Bucks urged ilgithe. bemuse by dela se I alierald have shut the door gflaai titers negotiation. I stated to the right hon. membee flee Manchester that I thought his motion incon venient he the public interests; I said nothing of incan tations to the government, but took higher ground, that .1 the penolleal interests of the county in future negotia tions met told him that the dissension at the present mo ment Mehl in my opinion be highly inconvenient ; and I am still el the same opinion. The Moss may wish to die. pue ern by the preens gaieties, or may prefer a direct negative. I are net which way it is disposed of. I think it prejudicial to the interests of the country, but if it be forced en,the government is prepared to meet it. (Cheers.) I was eked by my right honorable friend a question founded on a passage in the report of the con hews& I answered that question as well as I add, but if I am asked explanations as to what may have pessed or is passing between the governments of Ragland and France, I say that I will not be led into espla nade= or discussions about communication which may have passed between friendly governments, the effect of which might be to render such communications for the future impossible, or at all smuts to defeat the purpose for which they were ourit d on. Tb. house may or may not think fit to entreat the present government with the con duct of affairs ;it is for them to judge. But this I will say, that, whatever government enjoys their oonlideue, the bons would be committing a great mistake if it took from the heads of the existing government the conduct of nego tiations—(Mar, bear) —or if the House of Commons took upon itself to do that which the motion of the right honourable member is calculated to do, namely, to prescribe to the executive how to Garry on negotiations, and what conditions they were to ask for. If the house takes upon itself the duty of carrying on negotiations, it will, in my opinion, be departing more dangerously from the tee principles of the counts ties than 1 believe any member of this house would be winks to do. (Cheers.) I say that negotiations in great and important matters like the present can only be carried on by the executive government, and cannot be earned on by any government that is called upon from day to day to state what it means to do, or what it may have done within the previous ten days. A government must have a certain amount of confidence if it exists only for a day, and so long as parliament allows it to continue, they should not interfere with the details of negotiations, which will never be successful if subjected to the Janne, of such notions as that of the right hon. the member for Man chester. Mr. BRIGHT—I think there has been a little too much excitement on both sides of the table. The right hon. mem ber for Bucks need not be so math exasperated, seeing that my right hon. friend's motion is not one with the principles of which the right hon. gentleman and his friends are ge nerally supposed to harmonise. The right hun. member bad better leave my right hon. friend to judge for himself as to the best means of furthering the object which he has in view, end which I take to be a satisfactory pew. The house will sot accuse me of having any other object, seeing the 001111111 I have token dung the last twelve months. I put some that sines the question which has been referred to by the noble lord, bat I was anxious to have some explanation more explicit than that which was then vouchsafed. I did not want to know that all means had been exhausted, bemuse if they had been, the war might go on for ever; nor did I want to know that peace was possible if Russia would submit to impossible conditions ; nor that Austria was doing a great many things other than that which.this country bad asked her to do—(a laugh)—what I wished to know was Nis: Whether the negotiations were in mob a state as to take them out of the ordinary condition of things which always exists in time of war ? lem sot anxious to prejudice the wintry by premature discussions; on the contrary, I should be glad to bargain with the house not to open my month in it for ten years—(a laugh)—could I enure a peaceful solution for the negotiations in the month of Jane ; but I want to know whether our negotiation are in any other than that ordinary condition in which cies of the sides carrying on war is ready to receive offers from the other ; I want to know whether the conferences are being still held, and whether the Martian proposal which boa been alluded to affords some hope that wee is not absolutely impossible. The noble lord will allow me to observe that not °sly Austria makes the observations which have been quoted by am sight hon. member for Wilts, wanly, that there are eillemen of solution in the lest Russian proposal, but the nook Minister for Fortin Affairs said also that there were Nekeismsets. If that be the ease, what I want to do is to impono mos the noble lord that there being thus a chance, Mina tme be let slip ; and if the sable lord could give us Mele kir am as assumes as he has already partially givoe, I Weld set urge my right hos. friend to press his mares while asetiesions are still pending. What my Alba how frier Me to etradder is what will most advantage the cause he has at heart, and not what will plum gentle men who are hostile to the means; or who are wins for the prolongatioe of the war. After what the noble lord the samba fee Durhana—who, it appears, intended to seeded the metes—has said ; and what the right hots. member for the University of Oxford—who, if I understood him rightly, intended to speak and vets is favour of the propositions—has said, it becomes a walks what is nibs done by those who are anions for the pasdag el the rseolutions,and believe that their passing would be of im portance in the present state of affah•—therefore, when the noble lord and the right IN& gentleman urge their with drawal, my right hoe. friend Is Oben is that difisulty Is which, nee I have sat in this hew, I have sometimes sees members placed. For myself, lam afraid of offering him any suggestion in regard to the coarse be should take, bet if anybody will tell me what Is most likely to remote peace, that Is what I would advise him to do. ("Ben," and a laugh.) While the statement of the noble loud et the head of the government are so mgr e and eaetl is no In vague than that which prosoist should say be should by no means proposo this mein; at all events, from now until after Whiner tide, when the house meets agate, will be long enough kg the noble lord to tell us whether the propositions whisk us are led to expect will be made, will be likely to leadli say astishatory webudoe. There is • large portion of the people of this rontry who are anion that the question should be distend, an who know that from this bone they will gain more knowledge of the tree state of drain than they nave gained hem the 'seemliest or from the newspaper accounts of the last twelve months. Under all the cireanstanet, I skill be sanded if my right hon. frilled postposes his motion nail after the Whiten holidays, nil equally so almost if he goes ea with it now. (" Um, hear," and laugher ) Mr. ROEBUCK—After the speech of the solio hilts the head of the goveramest, I think the right boa. imiabor ' fee Manchester is boned to go en with his men. (aw, hear.) The Wits lord, the member foe Dolom i tes Wails informed the how that be iatooded to wood that males, bat that shaft be formed that insane eireamatemese liars nespd. Bat titer the spent of the noble lard (Pekoe. don), I ask, have eireametammo 'banged l Moor, b o w The noble lewd says, that mina the right boa. pidgin 1 1 reposed to being these resolutions before the hens, be hit 1 that it meld be Impolitic so to de. Hu tells m he fool, so sow ; bet he does sot give the hew to understand that any simulators. have happened to rim the qua nt a , i n a different parities to that In width it was when the menu- OM were first plasma upon the table. What Is the last resolution proposed by the r.ght boa. gentleman "To szprem to her Majesty, that it a the opinion of this 4aso sue oho propaatioas made by the governasest of Rats i e aegiekis sad to the prinsiple of the said third article Mask elements krnalmed negotiation, end may offer the ' gleam of °hostile( an honourable and satisfactory psaos." New the aobl, Uri asp that he has hopes, that the govern- Meat ban hopes of new propositions being made which say lead to a satisfactory poses. I ask, is not that the condition is whisk every government is at every moment of every war ? (Hoar, hear.) Am we not at all times ready to rude* propositions for and autism for peace? Ia aot the noble lad is • position at fil thaw to rewire propssitioss that may lead to an braresalik poses ? If so, what has happened to Judaea the tifilighodi the member for Barham, who came down with alloleomination to second the reeolatioas of the right hon. genians. now to urge him to withdraw them ? The rums why I urged the right hen. gentleman to briag his proposition before the hones was, that I believed the people of this country had no conildence that the noble lord (Pabaerston) and the government of which he is the head, are sanitise for an bows:able peace. There is a feeling abroad that a large portion of the (ablest is at this moment anxious for peace at any pries--(cheers from the opposition) —end it is because I am net sazious for pease at any prior, bat for an honourable pesos, and nue other than an ho nourable peace. that I ask the house to insist open a discussion of the propositions of the right hon. gentleman. (Load cheers.) The right hen. gentleman has pissed himself in a position in which the house has a right to call upon him to proceed with his motion, and to insist upon a discussion. (lieu, hear.) Re has thrust himself forward in this matter,and by doing so has prevented others, who would else have taken it up, from coming forward. (Rear, bear.) We have a right to call upon him to bring forward his propositions, for we, like him, are desirous of pesos ; bat not, like him, desirous of peace at any price. The Marquis of GRANBY considered that a preliminary quitins for oonsideratics, before they decided whether the moths should be discussed or postponed was, whether negaistioos were actually taking plus at this moment with any Impost of a successful termination. It was essential OA the hones should know whether the noble lord was willing to entertain any proposition that might be made by any one of the five powers at Vienna, or only such propo sitions ft might emanate from Francs or England ? Re idled this question, because he found that the data at ' whisk the noble lord the member for London bad declared that be had exhausted his instructions, was not on the ?.Bth I of April, es stated by the right bon. member for Wiltshire (Mr. B. Herbert), but on the 21st of April ; that was before the last proposition was made on the part of Russia; and it would appear from that that the noble lord's instructions ware, that whatever proposals Russia might make, they were not to be entertained, but the noble lord was to come back to England. That was a point which he (the Marquis of Granby) would wish to be cleared up before it was derided whether they should go on with the discouion or rot. Lord J. RUSSELL—Of oonres it will be in the discretion of the right hon. member for Manchester whether he will choose or not to bring on his motion. With regard to that point the government have no advice to give. All they can say is, that if he chooses to bring it on they will be ready to meet it; or, on the other hand, they are prepared to acquiesce in the postponement of the motion, if such should be the right hon. gentleman's decision. Bat the hon. and learned member for Sheffield says that the decla ration of my noble friend @manta to no more than what might be said at any moment of any war, namely, that the government would be ready-to entertain any propositions of peace that might be made. Now that is not precisely the state of the affair as it stands at present; and we are bound. so far as we can, having due regard to the confidential nature of die sommunications that have taken place, to state the present position of affairs to the house. First, I think it right to !Slap a hiatus that is not stated in the protocols as published, which are only a summary of the sittings of a conference which lasted each day from four to four-and-a half hours, and in which, therefore, necessarily many things are omitted. At the lest conference at which I bad the humour to assist, Count Buol, after a long discussion, stated that he did not see how the continuance of the discussion could lead to any result, because the belligerent powers were not likely to agree, and therefore he thought the conference had I better terminate for the present. But, he said, that though the plenipotentiaries had not been successful in arriving at a solution of the dificalty, be did not think that all muss of accommodation were exhausted ; that every member of the conference would have • right to bring forward new propoeitions, end he hoped that at an early day the con fereese would meet to consider any new propositions that might be made. To that proposition I answered that, though certainly all means of accommodation might not be exhnusted, yet my instructions were exhauted, and there fore I hoped that he (Count Buol) would not name an early day for resuming the sittings of the conference, for if he did I should be usprovided with in structions to discuss any propositions that might be made. The course I thus suggested was not without pre cedent even in the present conference ; for, while the Rus sian plenipotentiary was waiting for instructions from St. Petersburg the conference bad been adjourned from day to day, without any day being fixed for ramming the dis union, until Prince Gortchakoff stand that he had re 'Nivea his instructions and was ready to act. Alter the meeting to which I have alluded there was a subsequent one, at the request of the Russian plenipotentiary, showing clearly that the conference was not entirely broken up ; and at that conference the French minister expressed very clearly what I had before stated the ream why we consi dered our instructions exhausted. " With reference," he says, " to the new propositions of the Russian plenipotentiaries, be has already declared, in the last conference, that his in structions were exhausted, since Russia bad rejected the limitation in every form whateover. Be applies the tune declaration to the present propositions. With this reserve, ha observed that these propositions cad so little to the cessation of Russian preponderance in the Black Su, that they even provide for the con tingency of the preponderating fleet becoming hostile." The substance of our instructions wee the neutralisation, as it is called, of the Black Sea, and the limitation of the Russian power there ; and we were not empowered to re ceive proposals. Baron Bounqueney concurred in that opinion, as did also my own oolleague, Lord Westmoreland. It was not, therefore, as my right bon. friend the member for Oxford has said, that the British plenipotentiaries dis agreed with the other plenipoteatiaries as to the new Rus sian propositions ; on the contrary, the British and the two French plenipotentiaries made precisely the same declara tion. They did say that, meths Random proposal contained the principle of the closing of the Dardanelles, and not the principle of the entire opening of the straits to all the powers, they saw in that proposal an element of accommo dation; but Count Buol declared that not only was the principle of accommodation net contained in the proposal, bat that it did not contain even the basis of aceommodation. The meinieses adjourned without any day being appointed ; bat the Leitrim gummiest had declared, through the swath of Coat Bnol, that in their opinion the mesas of sosoramodation were not exhausted. I must say that, throughout the discussions of the conformer, the representatives of Austria lave shown that they agreed with the Western Powers, and not with Russia in her par pees. The difference between them undoubtedly was that while the pluiponataries of Fusee and Great Britain were not reedy to listen teeny terms that did not contain the basis of a durable and solid peace ; on the other hand the Austrian pleniposentieries wore unwilling to put forward any terms in gush at manlier as should involve Austria in the dangers and miseries of war without tong °minim that every mesas of sesommodation had bees first exhausted. That. of coarse, made some difference in the spirit in which the different propositions wee. put farmed, bat with regard to the opinion and the polity of Austria, we Gould aot pos sibly have had better support than. was given by the Aus trian plenipotentiaries. It is not only difficult, but imp:e -1 sible to state, at present, precisely what the proposition of peace would be, which must, as I madder, cores now from a Weiss govenmeat and not from our own. But my opt- Wen is, that *bather that proposition should lead tea peace se ni*—frit an Mat leestioa I sketild feel myself incompetent Se glee any Igaien—Me UW& government will, before the millenew ere finally Weed, make some proposition to Se minslime of the eonferesee. I imagine that that propo- OM wfll lave one of two resalte—either it will be rejected lir one or ether of the belligerent powers, sad then the cede miss will have broken off, sad then it will be competent km any member to bring the medics before this house, and ask the hew to give ea minion upon it, or if that should ad be the we, then the negeriatioes will be again re emaelly lIM I bps with a better primped than has attended them WY* et a satidestory Wale& Ido not think it 1 i pod& he me to say more on the subject than I have dam ea this eseesies. When the has. number for Man chester (Mr. Bright) says that a statement is vague—and especially that what has been stated by my noble friend (Lord Palmerston) is woe and ewer nothing Mae— 1 I mot say that the maiden of Wein, as explained ►y my noble friend, differs materially from the sappositien of the hon. and learned member for BlNfield (Yr. Ito•back), sir, that at any time, durum any war, pro, time for pease may be made by the oa t to the other. In this am, there has been ie; Winos to consider terms of pone. The feu b di gereat powers hare not agreed on those terse ; th erif - e ; the negotiations hare hitherto failed. But those cai• Boas are only euepeaded, they are not broken off. (H eal hear.) Ido not know that I can add scything to what lave stated. It is for the right hon. gentleman thala m i, for Iliencbestst to take what course he thinks fit : we sit t io • ready either now or at any future time, to meet any Igo% he, or any other hon. member, may bring forward. (ih, hear.) Bit J. PAKINGTON did not perceive that the • • led had stated aey new fact., or added anything is ey, bed boon previously stated by the noble lord aktbe hsy thoWevernment, to guide the house in forming a jadeft i Jill ill whether: the right hon. member for Ma k * leer ought to proceed with his motion ft im Everything that had occurred would tend to show Mu th government were a consenting party to the tours low ' had been indicated. The noble lord said he had coon d o „ powered to meet the motion, and if so why did is e a eaquset the right hon. member for Wiltshire (Mr. 8.5 a, WO not to evade it by moving the previous quotas, I . 4 had threatened ? It appeared to him that the gee so far from being desirous of meeting the queues, i n , moat anxious to avoid it. If they wished 14 autism to be postponed, and were peeps* u say--ea they had a right to say if such woes mr opinion—that it would be prejudicial to the pew,. 4 tenet to discuss it at the present time, why did they am al 00 ? An appeal made upon such grounds would be is say admitted by both sides of the home*. (Hear, hurl when the government declared they were ready to sea ,h, motion and to oppose it by a direct negative, ow l . 1 4 7 could say that the conference was still open and that ,4 plenipotentiaries were not withdrawn, be could see no say why, in the absence of some other information thee ii,, had yet had, the right hon. member for Manama shay not proceed with his motion. Sir G. GREY thought his noble friend's staterooms' sufficiently clear upon the two points to which the rightis t baronet adverted, vie., whether the plenipotentiaries ea, withdrawn, and the conferences were finally cloud. 11, thought his noble friend had shown that the mimeo were not closed, and that the plenipotentiaries woe as withdrawn. The conferences were in the same positing they were in at the period when at the request of the fits sign plenipotentiary they were temporarily adjourned, sai any preposition made by either of the powers might be* tertained by the plenipotentiaries who were stilt at Visa His noble friend (Lord J. Russell) was assisted at thou ferences (as the house was aware) by Lord Westsorelut who was still at Vienna. M. Drouyn de Lhuys wsa wise by Baron de Bourqueney, who was also lie behind. Lord Westmoreland and Baron de Booming were still at Vienna as the plenipotentiaries of Emits and of France respectively, and if any new promo*, were made they might be entertained and discussed by the and the plenipotentiaries of the other powers. The eight hos. gentleman Gleamed that the government Oulisiv evade the discuse'on, but that had been already denied be his noble friend (Palmerston). The only grouted upon who his noble friend wished the motion postponed wu that I premature discussion of the various questions which hod occupied the conference while that conference was still opt would probably be injurious to the public interests. After what had taken place it would be for the right boo:ember for Manchester himself to decide whether he would now bring forward the motion or not ; if it was proceeded with the government were fully prepared to meet it. (Hear.) Mr. M. GIBSON—The right hon. gentleman feu Owe rater • heavy responsibility on me. but I admit lea Wand to endure it, as I have given notice of moving tire address. The hon. and learned member f,r Sheffield up I have thrust myself forward in the matter, and that he and his friends are determined to have an honourable peace, bat that there are others who would have peace at say pries. I do not know upon what authority he makes that user ties, or why be and hie friends are to arrogate to thrusters an exclusive ►ppreciation of the value of the hooter sod dignity of the country. (Hear, hear.) I do not yield to him or to any man in this house in a desire to upholds* dignity and honour of my country—(bear)--and I sisal not be the man to stand up in my place in the House of Case mons and advocate any course which I thought inconsirs with the safety, the honour, and the dignity of the eons (Hear, hear.) The covernment ought, I think, to have* ticipated discussion when they laid thou papers os th table of the house. (Hear, hear.) I considered, *bath goveroment placed before the house of legislature a tees elf the proceedings of a recent conference, they invited * opiaion of parliament on the course which they had pee used ; and having myself perused the papers, I felt et hefty, under the circumstances, to move an address, wits view of submitting an opinion to the consideration of hoes. But I admit the difficulty of the position, as *a government tell us that the conferences are not et* and that before they are fully concluded, the daffiest p vernment are understood to be charged with plo posing some plan for bringing about an oak standing between the belligerent powers—thet th government will, before the conclusion of these cadenced agibmit a plan to the governments of France and &gist! for the re-establishment of peace. This being the cue, 0 hearing also from the government that under these dress Maces they would not feel at liberty to discus* with kW wee and without reserve the various proposah that klfl been made, I admit I feel that I should not be snmi perhaps the object I have myself in view, or serrig no public interest, if I were to persevere in this motion. (fits hear.) And I feel this the more *specially when the eigl bon. gentleman tells me he will meet it by aeries the pi alone question, because the division world thee be tan not on the merits of my proposal, but en the preliminsi consideration of whether or not it was coavenient, lam n statement made by the government, that sect a ptopcs should be made at all. In postponing it, however, lat not to abandon the proposal. (Hear, hear.) Bat if t existent% of the conference is to be a reason why I opinion of parliament should not be taken on the policy 1 the government, I want to know how long thew maces are to last ? (" Hear," and a laugh.) For if they in go on from day to day till the end of the sessios, they' 'thus undoubtedly gain the advantage of throwing owl I discussion on their policy altogether. While, thoeket feel compelled to respond to the appeals that bee h made to me to postpone the motion now, I big it I notice of my intention to take the very earliest Worm after Whitsuntide of bringing it forward. (Chem) Mr. MALINB looked upon the whole Fermat • mockery. The question was universally earl a wintry what is the House of Commons going to its' matter ? Without any entwines that the oonforeste M he named, or any reason given fee stapposisg Ott propositions would be brought foeward, the to 0 right boa. member for Maachester was to be pestles' definitely. There was a growing opinion in the 0 that the House of Commons was wanting in Its duty was treating the subject with indifference. After we , peened it was to be feared that terms still more igsoo would be entertained than those which the noble le member for London went to Vienna to negotiate iw minister, however, who would accept 'term' loss hw to the allies, would be insensible to the boom country, and undeserving of support in that home Sir H. WILLOUGHBY wanted to know whether was bound to make new propositions. He tbrO house ought to be informed of tine precise politio , ''' the question stood. If the °oaf:evinces were not elm Austria was about to make nswe proposition', a° reason for not entering into the din / wawa a t resist Kr. JOHN M'GREGGR wad a few w ards 410 his belief that Austria wank; never make an We l against Russia, because if she did it would ISIIIIta the dismemberment of ber empire, by the loss of I sad Treasylvania. Mr. CAYLEY slurp thought the motion of Et Gibwa "8 °timid* , one and Inopportune, but tbi slot " °ldorgeted to be still more rairchierms, fo Russia would rasOmetand that the Howe of Cos' preheating • oarrney-loving people, was showing symptom of getting rid of the war, and our any, Free think that we were about to desert her; and if tb mot thoellb.t that the tone of this dictation repme feeling of Ir.ne people of England they were re" , 1 Reeds o ad the Western Powers entered into eh Os dim/ Arieally opposite principles; for the Latta that Om preponderance of Raisin in the Bleck Bee to T'arkey, while Russia on the other hand osento pre pendulums was neeemuy to Turkey. How ea Orations starting from such opposite principles rec a satiteetory sad ? If France and Ettgbusd so 1 this war for the purpose of chalking the power sad held back at this me meat, so far from e Russia being checked, it would be grin THE EXPRESS, TITEIDAY -- gvANING, BL , - that I have no knowledge of the SOWN whisk sin be tam \will rielleet that I was asked Oise INA seriowl whoa the ha 'IF right los i f eas, dl ji sasses of time sogotistiot 4 1 &WI fi t. ,it his his. padossos sight w 1 • aid is mottos, I cos - to Wog as a disoossioo at Wm to tho l =tlt quads& roiled with pob.is tosomaisaso, at • t h e ) was wit Sw se to dictate to ••se" . H. VAN I mad is sot r iat• dlltetat pool- (Hear, hoer) I stated the L Ilea from the right bes. eneutber - Wilt., immesh es I geatleseen who thought deepi . . l, —A .....I. &Om= WWI/Milk/ thk nomad