The Express. — London, England, 1850-06-06 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—WEDSZSDAT, Jneis 3. TM Mime seembled this day at 12 o'elock, accordin le preview arrasienieat, la the new bum. (hero wu bet a this attendance of ssamben in the Ant instance ' bat die Speaker eas ibis to Mks ths obeli , by See minutess:tar twelve. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. EDI/CATION Bat..—By Mr. FRE WEN, from Brighton ; Ma. W. BROWN, from a piddle sawatiast is Liv.aptiol; is Amer of this bill : tha Earle ARUNDEL, from a plus sot bawd; Mt. BANKS'S, atom the archdeacon and claw of Oleeesater ; molest tee bill. Earchirtomr.—My Mr. N. GIBSON, fr , ra the cnemitte• MI die Laws/Airs rabbi Sebool Assocnatios. eomplUniog of &Seim istormsdee sad imperfect Muss as to Uses , us, seil preppie/ the Mess to adder@ her Majesty, riquoliag that anamwslaners Lett be sent into Luau:bars sad ether Gawks to report at the state of eduattioa la every Patilit• Mg se ha did that reliable had tho Itaadmaid of edaestism Pi It Ups at oil events that sash those who voted &maul this of the powers of bell, sad it wore sods, is favour of The f3P BA K —0 Eder. it,. P. WOOD—He heard melt aa ezpesesioa. Although ha wes glad that the boa. ranaber lobo proposed this ram we abstained !asap of those idle sad foolish szpromiose which appeared to be prevslo-t oa this subjset, it at the Wort of his speech he somewhat lastiverteutly introduced some of Mae views. The hem gestimma mod • domi nos* to the house parroting to eseams from a meld, of workirg.tma • sad he said that he believed the of the wo;klag visa were sot saderstood. Hu (Itr. trte7) . belleved them to ham thwaveng• amount of laud. Ma that the rest of anaklad had, bat be mast bet imm Nil that the first seatosee of that deessamt sea Wided hint was eat a weritiag maws predaotioa. sober Wird, o MO sash eaprewMas se " the pleat bis sad 1 =il alet jeipasat of ear offspring should set he sahlw aft l i t ai l exterael prowerti." Au bee. member said dm it. Thatmas his evmplaist. His groat eowigialat wee *MI of this idle spasm of -- . . . ASV te b :1::: otz w i ti mit votad al Po Tell. DISTRZIPIL—By Mr. TORKE, frog a public mee t of ininersa;d secuPiers of land. coniplaialsg Of distress prying for the r,-eascuaest cf preemie. sameares. Mar? TA=.—By Mr. M. MILNRS, from Ferrybridge, Yorkshire, he the repeal of the malt-tax. Samos Banns.—By Mr. FORSTER (place not heard) Le a semisweet audit of the amount, Moaners banks. 'UPERANNUATION LO ALWANCES TO POOR LAW OFFICERS. Mr. FITZROY asked if it was the in , ention atoms- Moat to pressed with a bill for updating then allow man ? /Ir. BAINES said the subject was ewe ea whisk a great assay petitions had been presented in this sad the last am aloe; cod he was anxious to take that opportunity of stating what hod been done by the Poor-law Hurd. The oaf priseipl• on which a fend of this kind mid be Pinned, so as to rewire the mactim of puliamint, was by making deduc tions trim the salaries of the poor. law omsen themselves, without meaning either to the pm rates, or to any ether public fond. That there !sight be so minprreben.ion on the poiat, be had drawn up • hill oa that principle, and circa lated smong the poselaw ettl:ers throughout the country, Though soy of them approved the principle, yet the lenity were opposed to it; and as it would he improper to nodes* such • bi:l agaiast the opinion of the mvority, or ladeed without the coccurrence of th- poor-law officers gesseally. it was sot the 'ideation of the Poor-law Board to propose any measure on that subject. (Hear, hear.) CLERKS IN THE POST-OFFICE. Mr. ANSTEY gave cones that on as early day he should penises • petition from the clerks is the Post-oface, aid nom that the sane be printed. THE MEMBERS' OALLERY. Mr. HANKIES stalled to a-k the Speaker whether mem bers wield he allowed to speak from the gallery which had beet appropriated to them at the math end of the house, sal which was considerably ballad the bar. Hs had al wipe understood, in the former homes they had (couplet., that no member wee albwed to souk from any part of the house which was decidedly behin.l the bar ; and as, when the attendance approached a complement, so large • portion of members suet necessarily sit is the gallery, it was impor teat to know whether or not they would be permitted to address the biome from that pima. The SPEAKER, who was very lailietinctly heard in the =, was understood to say that the menoen' gallery. a literally behind the bar, was considered part of the beam, and that, coasequeutly, memben would be allowed 1 1 to speak ham their places there. Mr. BANKES said that, as one of the strangers' guile rtes Immediately adjoined that for members, it might lead to • doubt whether or not a member was addressing the loose. TM SPEAKER said that if an hoe. member ea.' in his in the gallery he esseeived there would he no Welty. Hamra fathomless were given from the body of the house that some of the members la the gallery should speak from it; but, no one rising, the subject dropped, and the home proceeded to the orders of the day. EDUCATION BILL.—ADIOURNED DEBATE. TM debate oa thin bill, adjourned from the 17th of Apnl, Ina dna resumed. • Mr. ANSTRY mid it wee his wish to assist the km. ISM. mu &veiled theeassivis • Hs should show what eshbration bad lon given by % I ra forest religious societies, sod then ask what had bees dens by the schools of the philosophers. He would bogie it the beginning. In what were celled the disk egos where was there any niuseidon moue im ommemies with the religious iamitstiose I The only ledhomailkla Shot possessed one de rived from the relighgesimilkations and the wheels feuded by them. He had •MI of gratitude to dis Marge an thoi cecaelos. Be had kimeniflujoyed the advantage, in teem- moo with many other he.. meshes% of being connected with the tidal Motivation Mg edmention in this country. The Methadon founded by Mains of Wyksham, had sow for upwards of 440 rem been pouring a stream et edu cation throughout the anatr and it continued to flourish,l as he trosted it ever would do. That shod of eda• cation was founded by • churchman ; it was founded lon religiose principles, and for religious ducetion. But it was not founded for religious education alone. William of Wykeham well knew that no person could be properly educate d utiles@ all the powers of his 'Mod were developed is harmony. (Hear, hear.) It was • monstrous calumny on the church, and on the dials. rent religious bodies, to say that they had ever been op. posed to the development of the utelisctual powers (Hear, hew.) Their religious institutions all recognised this truth, that in man there were istelleetnel, moral, and religions fumbles, and that this equal and harm 460111 development of thou faculties was the only real education. William of Wykeham's motto wee, " Manners maks the man," and he took no bigoted view of the subjoin of *dn.:teflon. Bien was la the reign of Henry VI. (eluded on the same prin ciple, as were also Westminster and the various other public scoools. In the time of Henry VIII., unfortunately, a um spatialx took place with reference to those funds which might have been devoted to educe. tion ; but when, through the influence of the clergy, and especially of Cromer, some few fragments were saved, they were devoted entirely to the purposes of educa tion. The church had at all times distinguished If in promoting the cause of education. Henry the Vil ith founded another institution to which he (Mr. W. P. Wood) was indebted, namely, Trinity College, Cambridge; the foundation being such that man of every line of politics had bees collected within the walls. They then came to the reign of Edward VI., and from sons additional frag ments there was founded Mika, reign Christ's Hospital, in which flee or six hundred ehildren received not only religi ose bet seeder education. Is that reign eighty public schools were founded throughout the country, amongst which was • valuable one in the towr, of Birmingham. That was the state of things down to the time of the reformation. Wee then any cessation in this alone ? He did not fled any unless it were during the troubles of the civil war. No softer were matters tranquillised by the restoration than education was @gain set forward. Aad by whom ? By the philosophers, of whom there were many in the reigns of Charles 11., James 11., and William ? ; the only echei.s founded fir the poor la than ridges were founded by the clergy. (Hear, hear.) It was • remarkable tact that in 167 i, soon after the restoration, there was founded • society for educating the poor of Wale., who were then, as he feared indeed they wen still, is a pulls: state of destitution as regarded education. That society was founded by several misuse men, who signed a paper pledging themselves to out religious instruction in Wales by dittoing religions • w g , _ b•iicf7fsiait - fa Oldham ( r. W. J. Fox) in his wise and lineal as - - weeks, and by hieing the children taugh t to nad end write tempt to spread the blessings of education ; and if that hoe. and to cast accounts. The first names which he found on lumber persevered with the , bill, it should have his coo. this paper were thou, of Tillotson Sti lingfiet o Patrick, and tinned support. This had been said to be a 'patio' between Fowler, all of whom were afterwa rds selected h 7 the crows to Chrietheity and infidelity, between heaven sad hell. He All the once of bishop, and he could wish that all subset regretted thst such a construction had Wu put ow l s th e quint appointments had been equally good. Then was question, whieh we not thus fairly reoriented. The objet- also the name of Richard Baxter, a name fir teas to the bill were mostly of a fanciful thireen, resting which he entertained a high degree of veneration, though rather on suspicions ae to what might be the results of the it belonged to one who became • nonconformist from the bill, than on any more solid ground. Many objections had church. His object eve to show that it was the religious been drawn from the systems of education on the Contiaent, sentiment which had been the great case of the promotion but the error was in attributieg to those systems effects of education in this country, and that without ref, reels te which were not properly tradeable thereto. Allusion sects. He claimed for the chum, the merit of pre-emanate" had bona made to the enetifition of the I;aivenity In carrying eat the education of the people. of Pans, which peened the power of supplying Mr. M. GIBSON here made an observation, which WO. tabeben to the primary schools; but, on the testimony inaudible In the gallery. • of Mont-lembert end other eminent men of that country, Mr. W. P. WOOD continued. His hon. friend the same the system op-rated es &complete 'monopoly in the hands o f bar f.r Manchester said the 'church was second. That was the church. It had bees urged by the opponents of this a deplorable ezhibition of the ignorance which existed with measure that secular Instruction formed bat a small part reger ito that subject. (Cheers.) It was a most remarkable of ideation—the latter term having been applied by the feet that they should fi nd such ignorance even there. He hos. member for Oldham to the objects of his b.ll. Perhaps was prepared to establish his position ray facts and LOUIS. it would have been better had he used the term instruction; The first move in eds.:sten after the restoration was that to but the object of the bill was abundantly clear. Ample which he had just referred, couch had Wale for its object. facilities would be afforded the poor, under this bill, tor The next move was • net nierkable meeting, which pro obtaining religious instruction nem their own teachers; deed the Christian Knowledge Society. It was hela on the while it enured that no child should be excluded from Bth of March, 1699; a meeting of five individuals who thee secular instruction on Ensue of any peetharitie is the biped together with energy and perseverance. Of those five rsligi„,oi t r e ed of its po it s. Th e Ro w e l or d (L u c J. li es . persons lour were members of the church ; only one we • soli) objected to the separation of secular from religious clergyman ; one was • jcdge, another a colonel in the army education, and said the measure tended to centralization. Their first resolotion was as follows:—" We, whose names The latter charge was wholly unheeded, as the kn. as undersigned, do subscribe annually the sums affixed to member for Oldham only roped to avail himself of the our Isever.l names for promoting Christian knowledge." misting machinery—that of the Committee of Privy Council, How ? 'Be creating carechetical schools, by raising cate , For his own part, he should prefer the machinery employed chetical lending libraries for the I market towns, by 1 by the Lancashire Public Schools Association. The noble distributing good hooks, or where's, as the society shall Ines object as were directed "inlet a principle which the direct." The very fleet thing which this new society did was goverment had recognised sheeted on,which theComenittee to establish good echoes for the education of the poor.' of Privy Council hid proposed to nearly every school in the The first meeting having taken place in 1699, fin years kinglon, and which had been adopted in almost every in- afterwards there was holden the first of those annual stance, the principle being the separation of religi ,us gatherings of charity schools which had taken place every and wear teaching. This bill only went • step further, year down to the present time in this metropolis ; and such by separating the secular (rem the religious teacher, !tad been the efforts of the founders of the society in the in- Mom of the pinkies egsiut this measure were equally terve, that there were 2,000 children prevent. In 1719. only directed against the system of the Privy Council, for be 30 years after the first meeting, there were in England, in Weeleyaas and other bodies objected to the stet' iodinating consequence of the society's operations, 1,6.58 school., con. altogether. Is May, 1843, the members of the church and wining 27,00 boys and 7,000 girls. It had been said that several din Wirer bodies had petitioned against the education the church never thought of forming a national society till clauses of the Factory Bill of Sir J. Graham ; the ground Lancaster set up his school. He had shown that the church then taken was that children of d.fferept denominations emoted in the work of education a century before Lancaster ought not to be subjected to the same reli- was heard of The truth was that in consequence of the gious discipline, but that the legislature night deal growing operations of the Christian Knowledge Society, wholly with the secular training of the childr e n, the National Society split off 11.4132 it. Hence the common This was the position of the question ae it was left by the trick saying, that the National Society was only founded in hill of 1843. What we the meat petition ? In the first 1811. Dr. Bell, a clergyman of the church, eatahlithed a plain, from aim, to tea millions of the people of this cowry school in Madras, in conformity with his views, in 1789. In were waiting fen secular education, and it was now saner. 1797 het:SUS to England, where he established a school at lodged that voluntary efforts, though aided by greats from Aldo'''. In 1795 Joseph Lancaster was • lad 18 years of the state, were insuiliment. Aid in the manufacdsing agei hut eels at that age. Wind actively angered in a school districts Weenie, instead of progression, had retrograded. tstablished by his father, he introduced great improvements He had visited many of the mensal schools in Ireland, in toe system of instruction. Is the work published by hi 11 and he found that harmony existed oulv where there in 1803 he eaorassad his "nit that he was wit acquainted was a wise compromise between the Roman catholic with the details of Dr. Belle system till he had somewhat clergyman and the protestant clergyman, and where they advanced in his plan, e it would have saved him much abseiled from inculcating any hat those relines pri trouble. The National !society having been formed in 1811, pies which all parties deemed to be seleatial. And it was to the British and Foreign School Society, which adopted Mr. have schools where there was so such religious isstruction Lancaster's system, was not established till 1812. His hon. • that we the object of this bill. There was another point friend the heather for Manehnter we., therefore, under al which those who opposed the bill because of its centra lis ing meet remarkable hallucination in supposing that the church influence ought to bee in mind, an d t h at was that the fund had ever lagged behind in the great work of educating the out of which the expenses wen to be paid was a local food, poor. (Hear, hear.) But it was of much more importance and was under local management. if they these out this 'to ascertain how the church bad been doing her duty to bill they i n directly asserted that th e y were sa ti s fi e d w ith th e I wards the people amongst wham they lived and moved. He present system. would jut all the attention of the house to what had Mr. H. DRUMMOND said if there was one question on been done from the institution of the National Society in which gentlemen of all sides red lees unanimous, it wee 1811 down to the present time ; end he would particularly that the state ought to undertake the education of the mount them to mark what an improvement had resulted people. Absent all the coatneion that had seises on this from the system adopted by the goverment, or rather by subject had mien from confounding the two terms "its- penitent, of making grants as stimulants to ode-Athos. enaction " sad " education." Even the boe acd limited From 1811 to 1838 the National S ithey exp -need 104,0001, gentleman the member for Sheffield, in his speech the other being at the rate i f about 3,8001. a year. There was then Loh', regarded them as synonyseths term•. Some would introduced the system of making annul greats in aid of lave biblical *dentin, some ',violent 'dustmen, s ins voluntary sentinel- What was the result as retarded this religious 'deletion ; and there were all sorts of epithets. particular society ? Why, eerie in the first 27 years of Now he believed that state education MY an Impossibility. t's existent it o:leaded only 101,0001 in the 9 years from No two things could be more distinct than education medlar. 1838 to 1847 inclusive it expen'ol 188,0001, or 21,0001. a attention.. Instruction meet putting sumethigg into • pew year. (Hear, hear.) He could not give the statistics ,oa ; education meet tekinosomenhing eat. All their inmates of the different dissenting b dies, but he believed tios must be divided ins tea thee. They might give that they also would exklt4i_ greet r-sets. In 1837 the Stielitlfi: instramion en they might gin historical instruction. National Societe had 111,Way - schools ; in 1817 it had The neoessuy tendency of ackatifia Instruction was to 17,000. (Hear. bear.) Of Sunday schools there wen 5,230 make aeries. Tuesseses uh-pesain who 'mew anything In the first pniod ; 6,038 is the next. The number of day ce. the sciences but 'e k e k ae w p er f ec tly we ll t h at h e west ach..len rewiring education a' the schools in connexion with take melee whatever upon - 1111Theoity. The lecturer oa an.. the church was, in 1837,668 000 ;in 1847, 966,000 (Hear, lofty would tell neat h ot L i t ria d t o w h a t, h e sa id a bout now hesr.L ad elo that, by the assistance of parliamentary grants, eilit t iadteademead arteries sad tlihrth, hat that they mast i they so stimulus , ' the energies of those who had before discover them sad be able to trace them of thiamine and I despaired of being able to mike t ~. rt qowite provision. thee Hat tee neat take menet apes tree we . Asd so It wthere had hen an increase of 6,200 schools, and of 400,000 us ewer " wdss'ida wittiest. But in Motored mere\ the scholars. By the pretest system they were oversaw' rule wee wholly dilannt; they must entirely trust to the 1 the increase of population ; and he would ask them aillekg tarty. They moat act doubt whether iota whether they would sobeitithe for a system which ea the trait of thomailsi eels them east h e ..ii. to Ni e b u h r , l ion a Pagaaa " mulniba."l aired or nee, but they must lake it I l'''e Prua tried u , c um in % t e lru e s h ru re n sti th lts e risk on . of w th hie r i win h g " back u the eel all persons of that kite towel, ineditied things the i education of the country 1 (Hear, hear) They should he wen ewers Word By iestruction ,hay inertias d a man's i guided by the facts of the ease and not by mere declamation. initsbility; they iscriesed nis sense of suffering. Nor did ', Tee annual expenditure is the church !wheals was they IMMO* ha weds These was so eonselion what- ', b 74.0004 , a mum which exceeded the whole amount of the ewe betimes isteßeetnal power asel weal eineteue But I parlismeatary grunts from the wried when the first great is theation this thing was whale different. B.l4CSliolt i was mode, in 1833, down to 1848 Tha total amount of the was that whisk was ►c salad on by the drawing testis of that , 1 perliamentary grants in thee 17 years was 710,0001., and it which named and the amedmering forth of that snick ', .hould be recollected that the aid of patliagent was not was wil. It ins • work that eiesld be carried .is only by ' confined to the ...sick. He would add the pleating fact the pima when children wen y "tag and only by the I that is the schools connected with the Privy Council, of a church afterwards. They must have the power of the total expenditure of 200,01001., thi re was a corthlbution of church In order to lave the power to do that which woe 1 78,0001. from the thalami themselves. The church contri vigil, or they had so power at all. Bat thq were oey ny , buttons, tad. pendently .4 thew of 'he children, were ably„j ec hicyksi the citurtivind were endeavouring to sub ' upwa-ele of half • million annually. That fact showed Stlitta WM scheme of adverse ageructioa. It on wholly t at the church was not indifferent either to religiose Impsmilela the object could ewer be etwomplekod by say lor secular ethic:Mem. Ile had sot yet mentioned the efforts Meer mesas het by the chards. i which the eborob was making to provide suitable Mashers. hr. P. WOOL) said he tell • wry deep inweet is this Lod here he must admit that is this respect there was fur quiene, whien he appreheeded was after all the one ..rest • long time • lamentable deficiency. Tree council of the question spas which the siiiinieassoe of our happions and Christian Knowledge &misty had this aubj. et early under the propene, of our empire drum. 'el, and perhaps he had th it residentioa, sad contemplated the establishment of a specie eel to Renew the home is consequent; of the ob. ninon for the transept of semen They felt the absolute perneten that had been offered he his bon (men I opposite, • necessity for so doing, aid they also penned the nemeses )ye Om* fur 'Twills!. of o With he described the mere inconvenieties of entrustiag • large s om b er o f p u p i ls to , . e WOOS 11l st berm oke, wits which he (Mr. P. Wood) lied had the saner The Beamed Society had lately evehlithed tun \ aheemeas...o4 orwale Timui. . ow ,* l ag schools . In six years they had spent 60,0001. seslire, and Me society 11..11 as crate. Oh Angry. NOT is the work alrne, having cent out 153 seven , this peeress , for ate purpose ~ 1 de.trenutole sael.amen , ary and 41 , 9 mistresses. Sion the governme-t first gnu's.] He wound •rideew ur es far as oven" .4 101 - *deb:Shad the plan of ter doing cer diem's t o sew the example of not being used on this mobjesd, feel- meters who bid proved themselves etelifted to she papa THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY IFVOING, JUNE 6, 1 _ wen alla know' is new park if Un onatry townie Kla import of with& ties Nodose' entity had m om gliKI„ - "ken ware et that moment fa the various training 'methadone ist sad and Leadea sheet 360 pupil washers, whilst la the Manna dkaiste there were 812. He agreed wick lea. kind tke atesbur for ()Ahem that as of the persist WOW um, pest Ind hen the en• der apnea a aseldfia 41kno r iesa.) Wheel the National Society took Oa osanned its ta 1347, they found that the automat paid Se Ueda= aseually was 621,0001, whilst the amber of Mashes woe 20,000, as that the p salary was sal, stint 204 Bat the pro per randy for chi evil wee net to setablisk • sew system whoa so nub geed led boss dame under this minis( us, bat to reasnaente tankers better through the aid .f, goatenneat grans. Horng all this ssaohliney ia operation, the ant part of the system bei , g only tat years old, sad the last only three, were they, with sash astnielieg rents before this.., he pat a stop to all that was bona dose, and as say OM Wilkes **ea retain se cular intricate ally f (Hear, bear.) It really appeared to am that the hes. member for Oldham brotteht forward nothing in support of his prepaid's. The only tangible grand - which he had heard far assenting to it was that stated by tbe his. and learned umber for Toughs' —sanely, that the Nstioaal Society and the governneat were now engaged in a dispute. He (Kr. W. P. Wood) saw nothing In the asansgeant classes proposed by the ponaineat to which • dianthuses starlit not give his sane. ties. It was • fanny to talk of parents objaniag to here their children eotir, as was done in that armlet of the works. men, which was, he felt sure, addressed to them rather than by them. (Hem, hear.) Is England there was se sesemity for laying down any rule on the subject. Tits y algae safely allow anyb sly of Christians to educate chills.. as an exclusive system if they pleased; there were schools enough for all to resort to. Hs did not understand libe rally so consist in illtilittretitilln; the ft= who eared about nothing could well afford to be liberal, but a man might be deeply and sincerely unmet in his opinions, and respect seethes from a belief that he was firmly oonriand of ths madness el Ids owe views, sad that was a lffsealltx which he leek te he sea iii mead. He believed that a aces, whatever of intellect he might Pongee, : or however ma he might andeestaad his own interest, mill needed relisiese Welk le guide him— (Hear, hear)—aad believing that he meld set undertake to pat a child to a school when he would be dependent on pre- Carious religious isstreetios—(bear, hear)—he therefore Inked to have that child put at a school where there would preside a gifted teacher, prenated to devote himself to the gond work from a sense of religious duty alone ; and where everything said and done would not be merely from the =math, bet from the heart and is the service of God. (Hear, hear ) Mr. M. 01BSON wee anxious to point out is what respect he qualified the support he wee about to give the hes. member for Oldham. It was a question at the permit time eminently proper to be iatrodaosd to the sorties of the house by a non-official member. If it appeared that the public opinion wee not sufficiently 'extend on the subjeet to entitle a governments, submit the proposal to parliament as a cabinet measure, and if an independent member was not to be at liberty io bring it forward, Mere would be no opportunity at all of diagnasing its merits and amusing the for mation of public opinion either one way or the other by a par liamentary debate. (Hear, hear.) Therefore, in his (Mr. Gibson's) opinion, the house and the country were indebted to the hon. member for ()inhale (Mr. Fox) for Introducing the subject for the deliberation and disenstion of that hous•. (Hear, hear.) As to the epithet of "philosophers" applied to then by the Ma. =sorbet for Oxford, it reminded him piv s e Mesh am eikeelem latibles west would Mr. free soil ther theardlowt Obi released de. bate be hesni tt E=whelsearehet temiihed poodesly dm fasts es whisk he the seeemity et this imeaseire, et use semen et dusetiptiow. He beaded Ms attempt to do sommake far his blew mitatrymea, far the improvement of dee lostrosties aseaely pima te them, somullog fur the ex. smiles et iseterstten to the new destitute of it, sot on any shank* pip tint ea the doeseestreted seeeesity that something should be due. It we. wet his Intestine to demolish soy minks lysteles of Austina in order to ealehillt mew Mo, tha absurdity of whisk exudes's led demeestratod, set seedy in Whew* to adman, lift with regard Mall kinds el relent wholawswer ; bat to meirlda hew very essudia mod Imprint systeue could lie Ur mee lead, periled sad made to do a steatite linneMil of good thee they lied hitherto efeeted. (Hem, beat.) Baal was she smtwee able propeskime, mid, so fat rem a:- gladiator Minim, It peessimaily ammit N retails the reli giose impales toe the dillies of .dustier. (Heer i zz .2 He &predated quite as highly se the her. tad member for Oxford the results talk* had hem predeeed 1 7 the nfigious intpul•e; but all Mee impolem lequired be watched, and more pardimMy as weemested with eda m**, last what was eelled veligies, but what should be men properly designated theelegy, should be made as in stillment of proselytism, sad lead to the perm dos of education itself. (Hear, hear.) The great OM es which he founded his tion was, Ad after all that had bees dose for the ex iled. of education is thie eoustry, it was dill itrely deficient, whilst its quality wee lamentably i r of. ) (Hear, beer.) He ventured I. affirm that the ukelele of a theolotical *digestion and the proselytism which was inseparably tioessested with it, had so far swamped other modes of Instructive as to impair the effects of the religious principle itself m laatllled into the sleds if pupils by means of such imperfect instrution. The evi deuce which existed for that minuet it would be difficult to gainsay. They had it in evidence that the cumber of per toes who were unable to ape their names to the mamsge registry amounted to 31 per east. of males end 45a per east. of female'. It appeared that the num ber of pecans who two years ego were unable to gigs the r.giatry amounted to 42,429 make, and 61,877 re make. This showed that the mans quoted by the hon. sad learned member for Oxford required to have large de ductions made from them. (Hem, beer.) Agaio, the return of juvenile °Baden in 1847, which had been made on the motion of the hon. member fee Pontefract, showed that of 11,195 juvenile offenders, 4,738 were unable to read, and that of 14,738 juvenile offenden in 1848, no lees than 5,200 were unable to read. These stalemate proved that whatever returns were made frogs the selieds, tht; umber of persons last/acted was =soh smaller than could be supposed. (Hear.) And furthermore they had to sembla• this with the startling fast that, large as war t h e proportion of persons who were enable to read, it was not, alter all, amongst the annduested class that the greatest number of erimiaaL was to be found. The National School Society was at war with the committee of the pi ivy uncoil. (Hear.) The Catholic School Society was holding off, and was not yet in • position to receive any advantage from the national fuad appro priated to education. (Hear, hear.) There were divisions in the British and Foreign School Society. (Hear.) Here then were the main springs of these eds-ational operations damaged, and in suck a condition that they could not work ar they had heretofore done. (Hear.) All this showed that something else was essential topat education again on its onward counts. (Hear, hear.) The inspector of schools fur the northers district stated that one school out of every fin was either defunct or in danger of be coming extinct, and he gave it as his opinion that the sante was the cue throughout the kingdom to a maid (livable extent. Tatty had it reported to them that in the 1,300 and odd schoidis of the National Society there was seho.il room for twit* the number of children that consti tuted the daily average attendance. (Hear, hear.) This agile' showed the estimation Is which the present system vu held. But it was assumed throughout the debate that a secular education meant the exclusion of religiut. He denied tt.at secular and religious instruction were neersiartly opposed. (Hear, hear.) It was his Stu belief that - . . the teat this same had been applied by the old school of conservatives to Wilt:erica' and thou joined with him is the endeavour to emancipate the slave.. (Hear, heat.) With regard to the governeeeet not taking up the subject at this moment, which many deemed a suitable one, he was not going to reproach them oa that arsonist ; it might he said that public opinion was not sufficient(' sips ea the matter, but nee enbelese he could users the house that symptoms of atemistakablei approbation had been meni• tested towards it. (Hear, hear) He believed there we. ao question at the present moment is which the working clause took a duper interest than in that proposed to the house by the hon. rasailor for Oldham. (Hear, hear.) It appeared to him (Mr. Gibson), in reference to th e msaufac tuning districts, that their position was a peculiar one, and one that tailed most emphatically on the - legislature to pro vide unosetariaa education. What did the legislature do in the first Instance ? It enacted that no child should be ad. missibie, and, consequently, should not earn • livelihood, in any of the coAos, woollen, or silk factories, unless they had attended the local school. But there the measure stopped, wilsout providing the school for tare attendance. (Hear, hear.) Now if they made school attendance the coaditions of employment, sad if there flirted more than the mire name of religious libery in the isometry, they were bound to provide schools of as ensectariaa character, to which persons of all religious de nominatius could resort. (Hear, hear.) Now, if such were not done the government would be open to the charge of coercing the consciences of those who had no alternative but of attending a sectarian school of a different religion from their own, or of nen-employment. (Hear, hear ) He would take the hypothetical cue of a Roman Catholic school is the immediate vicinity done of those tutorial'. The law praz tiestly enamelled the factory children to go to that school, so that • Protestant child was in the position that it should go to that utteol to be iadoctrinated with Roman Catholic tenets, or keg its occupation. (Hear, hear) In fact, the child might he compelled to forego its religion or its heel hood. (Hear, rear.) That was not • fair position. II labour Is to be cioatingeot on school attendance in the manu facturing or !agricultural districts, and it it was a good prie r pie for one it was for the other. (Hear, hear.) None but asseciarian school. were suitabdr, or the prit.cii les of religious liberty must he endangered. If there were these numerous schools of which the hon. memher for Oxford had spoken, and which gave general satisfaction, it would nut be necesaary that the ratepayers should further tax themselves to establish schools that were not required. If there existed that superfluity of education in pieta of the country, and of a satisfactory quality, was it to be supposed that the ratepayers would volun tarily tat themselves hir unnecessary additional sehools ? If it be kid down that in poor districts property must eon tribal. towards schooling, there was nothing unreasonable is all holders of property paying in equal proportion at least towards secular education when religion was not interfered with. (Hear, hear.) He was aware that in many agricul tural districts some few gentlemen of property wire called oa to pay the expenses of the parish school., whilst other wealthy gentlemen having property its the locality, but happening net to be resident, escaped contribution. If they were to contribute to the secular education of the younger claim% it was right that property should be called upon and rated in just; and fair proportion. (Hear, hear.) He did not to the least degree underrate the value and importance of the efforts made by the different religious COMIIIIIOIO4I in sup port of education. (Hear, hear.) He thought it would be a great misrepresentation of the facts of the cue if they de. nied that the religious communion+ of the country, die worn and churchmen, on many occasions and in various parts of the country, gave most valuable and digit wrested support to the more of education. (Ilear, hear.) He should observe that the bill was called "A Bill to promote the Secular lidocation of the People of England and Wales." It left religious teaching where it then was, and did sot in terfere with the existing machinery for dispensing religious instruction to the esiumsaim. (Hear, hear.) Wait wee that anchieery Had they made no preparation for reli gious instruction? (Hear ) No country had expert, d half the amount that Reiland had in giving religious instrue- Con to the people. If they took the church and the direnting bodice, and considered that some can millions were ex pended by them in giving religious instruction, they would see that the amount—and he did not think he was over the mirk in stating it—was twice as much as war paid by any ether country. (Hear, hear.) Now it was not propasied to meddle with that fund : and he then asked, why that trepi dation in refereace to religious inetruetion—hed they not already provided for it? (Hear, hear.) The bill of the hon. member for Oldham only railed on them to superadd to the religious instruction—already provided—intellectual , ...e more the mind was furnished with intellectual truth, the hotter it was acquainted with the weeks of the Creator, We treater would b• the disposition of the pupil's heart Ise superior religion. (Hear, hoer.) Instead of there being any antithesis between secular and religious education, he regarded them as auxiliary to each °vier. Well, then. It might be urged, why not unite them in the Mme school? His answer was that it could not be done in • erantry where there was such • variety of religious opinions. There was the difficulty, and with that difficulty they had to grapple. What each wanted wee not co much to have religion inculcated as to have the religion which he himself uoteseed—that was to my what he believed to be the true religion—taught in schools. But what was the true reliiion (Hear, hear.) Who was to be the judge of that? Was it to be • majority of that house ? Wu it to be the majority in the country ? That could not he, for they had respected the conscientious scruples of the minority. He was quite correct, therefore, in saying that there were insuperable difficulties in the way of placing the instruction ef the country totally and entirely in the hands of the March. But besides this the church had another and a higher mission. It was the duty of the clergy to keep the people entrusted to their cue from crime and sin—to cat. - shin the children is their respective parishes en week days end on the Sabbath. The all-important concern of salva tion was quite enOtaga -- 10 exercise all the powers M those who were entrusted with the ministra tion of religion. But the lousiness of teachiag referred to the concerns of this world and not M another—it had to make goo l citizens, at.d not saints. (Hear, hear) The parson had no right to make the schoolmaster his proxy, and then come up in the liberality of the public for the payment of the schoolmaster. (Hear, hear.) He was departing from his own most important dusty when he turns . aside to see how the schoolmaster executed his. (Hear, hear) Another reason why the church c mid not perform this duty was, .hat it set limits to its ii fluent* by its own religious jorneout. Another reason was, that a system of national education re quired an outlay of Public money, and the dm meters woull not submit to be taxed even for secular purposes if the money was to be hanged over to the esteh Balled church. (" Hear, hear," and cries of "Divide ") Another reason why he should be unwilling to leave the com m.l of education in the hands a the church was, that the perfect independence of the schoolmaster was essential to the imparting of a good education. It was said by Dr. Busby that he would not take off his hat in his schoolroom, even is the perusal of the sovereign, and in his opinion it would be vain to expect • good and perfact education where the schoolmaster was overs'iadowed by s clerical superior. He knew an instance where a teacher was rebuksd for instructing a child who had not been bap tised according to the ordinances of the church of England. He would read for the house high authority to show that secular and religious education might be kept separate and distinct, without any damage to religion. Here was the opinion of an eminent professor of Moral Philosophy in the Uuimmity of Oxford, who was afterwards made a bishop of ner Majesty's government (Dr. Hampden) H. thus speaks in a course of lectures delivered at Oxford in 183.5 ' Rut since the separation of philosophy in general from theology, whilst other sciences have profited largely by their independent culti vation, these has remained a timidity of speculation in a backwardness, to use that liberty of reason here, which has been so beneficially a lopted in other branches of knowledge. Their is • port of superstition on the subject; the demon* of impiety and profane ness haunt the imagination, when we contemplate the enabustiment of moral obligations, Independently of the revealed will of tied con cerning a future state of mustenos. • • • • rine, both Shafts. I bury and 80l ebroke have shown. and I think unanswerably, that the principles of morality are founded in our nature, it.dependestly of any system of religious belief, and are, in fact, eblinstory even on the atheist. • • • • But I intend, Mementos the indOoendence a moral obligation on any religious sanction. t. reter, in Mama, of this rrOttlott, to the indisputable instsnoes which have appeared, of an upright t nor of life—of the duties belonging to the scrum. relm Bons of life—correctly performed by those who have wanted the higher induesonents to right median, resulting from the profession of a better creed. He bad, perhaps, still higher authority, that of the pri mate of the English church. He did not mean to say that his language implied an approval of his ( Mr. Fox's) -theme, but it show , d that he conwiered that secular education could b e i m p a l e d, separated trom religious education, with4ut any detriment to religion. The honourable gentle man here read an extract from a charge of •he Archb shop at Canterbury to his clergy, in which he state I ihat " the literary character of the schools depended on the schoolmaster, but its religious character dependo i on the minister " He chose to give the opinion of others who could not he suspected rather than advance any of his own on the motion, because he was well aware that if he did so ineteseues, whisk even the boa. member far Oxford con peruse would not be waatiag to cell him infidel end sidered nesessary to the harmonies' development of all the atheist. But he firmly and eineerely +shoved that the tualties. (Hear, hear) Tbey already, if they did their seperaton was in every way nose wary to produce the full duty, had the meths of improving the spiritual faculty; and mount of good both as regarded religion and eduction. therefore be called on them to develop the intellectual, that He did not wish to see persons thrown upon the befit might combine for the benefit of the Co.- world ignorant of the commonest every-day mat , en. H inanity. (Hear, hear.) He could not me why did not want ea education whit* left persons ignorant of has. members who supported the measure should the amber of onuses in a pentad, of the number of inches be open to the charge of endsavouring to diminish the ex- in • foot. of the name of the reigning eovereige, and who Mt of religious instruction. (Hear, hear.) The Sunday did not know whether the months of June and July were whelk would remain intact, as would all other religinus in. winter or summer months. ('' Hear, hear," and isughter ) stitutions. (Hear, hear.) He could see no grounds for He wsnted an education which would enable the pupils in eeriness opposition. Surely the teaching of erithmetic, gen- atter life to steer their °Dares readily, smith would sot graphy, and reading and writing could not perm, be deemed leave them unseqsainted with modes of industry, irreligious. (Hear.) Let them give 'ocular Question in which would save them from becoming the dupe et the the national schools, and leave to the religie us communions demagogue or the fanatic, which would induce them, from and the ministers of the various persuasions that task which, moral consideratioae, to postpone the marriage connexion he felt, their seal would make theta discharge with fi lelity, till they were in • position to maintain a family, which namely, that of giving religious instruction. (Hear, hear.) would teach them, in some degree. what it was the townie- It was new to him to bear that it was the duty of the church tun could do, and what it could sot do, to elevate their to teach reading, wilting, and arithmetic. (liear, hear.) position, which would impart thou hotter views He conceived it to b • the duty of the church to teach re- of science which would give dignity to their opera veiled religiiin to their own congregation, but not to give lions in mechanics, or in the factory, and which world molar instruction. (Hear, hear.) If it were the duty of finally enable theta to profit by the lemons of religi Husband+ to give secular lastreetioa, then what a reproult aa no doubt tb. y would best be ails to profit from to her, oosaiderieg her enormous funds, must not the fart those lessons If their minds were more expanded. (clu e re) M, that of the population of England mad Wales, 46 per lie wadi not propose education as a pananta; other eff o rt s mat of those who presented themselves for marriage were should be made, but he would say this, that education wee not able to write their names. (Loud cries of "Hear, hear.") an essential condition, and that, without it, the best measures Let the church, then, deal with the moral and religious would be inefficacious. People were apt to be misled a. to training of her own members ; but he saw nothing to pre- what stoat nearly affected their interests And what had the Tea t the ratepayers establishing, at their own pleasure, country now before it? the lonely and dark pre. iptir of a by an equalised rate on property, schools to which their continuance of burdens that now pressed hurl, ; whilst by children might repair to obtain secular knowledge and in. the knowledge of religious imineiples, they wool • give the strum:ion. (Hear, hear.) first Miaow of enlightened, devoted loyalty, and they would Mr. NAPI BR believed the exact principle of this bill to have the great mass of the people first humanised and then he this—that it is the duty of the legislature to compel • christianised. prevision by rate upon property for an education in which Mr. HMIS said be should support the bill. Throughout the emission of religion was an essential element. Hitherto the whole country no means were provided by which *ocular education in this country had been based upon religion ; the education night be given. morale of Clir stienity were the eighest form of m or ale, and The SPRAY here interrupted the hon , mem b er, an d Mr. Lock, connected even intellectual refinem-nt with said thatit appeared that oa the former .rebate on this subject Christianity. Religioa and Christianity hiving been reefer en amendment bed been moved by the hon. member for abse.l as tutu seceenzy baste of education, this hill proposed Northamptonshire (Mr. A. Stafford), which was seconded an experiment of another k ind. It was said that an instrue- In the noble bird (the Earl of Arundel and garret )• he thri should nut be given to children which their permits did member for Arundel. After the noble lord there w s the not approve of, but be maintained that it war the duty of boa. member fur Sheffield (Mr. Roebuck), then the noble & * _ . _,, - 4 t I M C 2 i 12 , t : V V * W O atii 4 a 1 la 1 d i i 1 eta tof diaq Wet heft. geoshen of M 7 l ooked Irou llima:4 3 GrilifC 'pr iS hap :elielmTh blirs rum ' II : 1111144 * :iniolt fa "11411:14 powi "" o lia , :i :o na. wesisatiee. (Laughter.) In his at C an d l em a s w h a t was termed the 1:0111111101I degree was aequired with a is. moue of kw ukase. There lad bee. a lugs Themes I. the asiaber of schools fee papa tosilts. "ad,ia eoaaequesee of the adreatag, *Web Wore Whet \raisin Wilke- - . .._ cannot kill . "P"71.171;------Fl of the intellect bi proscrib e d ' ~"-* ir i n it t a t . 6r u rbi r y A cil w: urn a il m l ln i m e n c s t o ) t iN t ea bl3l b e if o ' I t rra f n e h , l! :: :: acquire in . r r... think, Englishmen will wrigab ilisamillilorliPee li liblit alliMill rall hi a t hrmilabi. nams (l"dmilar a lit : : aak e t hyde : Ci he& hi 111 ° 1 De ease t " re 4:74 :: c a A t li l i g h o a n ym * i t h end an ewPa d uillen we must have a very p doe • '''' na • 1 0 at e_ b h sr mind thinking ll b l i n i td o t i o r and t y e k t O nnsi on e t t : I 1: :: :: : ekt statute h h t a oFc e t d antod current, wafermt hean,l,bde t t i ° ,: hq i n n i i 1 .. n ...ut. ' 1.-11=1111"111.w111.11:UsrirliguiNaleTS3UZwaTspressediallia."1.11:famailibilmiltrililwihlin:jegunarhyriesesaidu.tt already lorthw7eithmLinthiledirsaib.:::.iels to dam up an irresistible sloe um. nianiaaa k e mu m . gsvieg been brought of , i* Such, then, being the necetoky, let I" a il iz • die Chunk of England, he bad not the slightest objection that the dwell should soodeet the education of the people. _,, of the *Marsh, he having ad • long oonnezion with • ihe Open am the fountains of knowl e d ge. n / lie l .. working clams, and employed a vast .nuumberso butnw be fel a l mp diic le. assio A I n itt w le il l l earn h.. in a g tu may lead to et t of men, he could wifely say that there certitU l 61' 1 po s p e p4, 34 kem eessis chola who were tbormurbly and thom in re l ig i on, i n mort i s, ayi . , and . '"i 05ti l who were partially educated. A great deal bad been said in y i i iii. _ about the Amenity of preventing arises; but the truth W U It is but the other day we entered int o .• no that s t e ke wh gre o Zactuistetecribtobegrbresetestecriocaceissmweerewasoftenprivattihoze. moste sigpec z n e o m iranel ina t t:; fac on dit Or ru t e t. d e o , p be ns l lre:io o en f ol eo : f m : m t: u t o r i 071 : , : : th.. 111 1: who bad received education but:feeling the :advantage of seek education he would rite his support to this measure , doctrine.. n im l calt o were e rt f o y u n ; in the semi-instructed and more active o ln arw i n i i i n i t : i t i . t s i th e in o t f eres twr t: L of society, of government, and I t , si li d e ertiou bsped . that government would trice it into their cos- Th. house divided. For the second reading 6B Trill be far better secured in thes; ' ,, T ,, h il. Against it knowledge r i b i o t 4 n n h, mr. C A O G P L Y t H o O N L B D y Il ha N y F iag ßA ra ll o C v liS th E e hi se E I c i o r nd ß I:L IL L: in : 29 O f than by ignorance, by free and f • • 1 this bill, fair disitls. Mr. BEATHCOTE said that he should decidedly c si a o re n fu a l m ly id e e rea t a tin p g u a bli po c p a , b il l a e tiri to n o a t pp i4 ree rm i t a a t rne .1.,,,,,:: 1tt111, 2 oppose led by the noes by any henatil of cfrsigninw lir d ~ TITLES OF RELIGIOUS CONGREGATIONS BILL. men who can build up a sect on eosin! . - Mr. AOLIONBY postponed the bill till Friday nest. This bill was read a third time and passed.use reit,: SAVINGS BANKS. innovation. •,', Mr. BROTHERTON moved for a return, showing the amnesia( lose of interest sustained by the public, on amount of the Savings Banks and Friendly Societies in the United Kingdom la each year, from the year ending the 20th day of Nov., 1844, to the year ending the 20th day of Nov., 1849, inclusive; distinguishing the Friendly Societies limn the Bsvioes Basks, and the Savings Banks of Ireland from those of Great Britain. SHORTLY after the American war, a sapient Fre eh statesman, hie writing from L ou i siana to master in Paris, advised the F renc h gove s..,n,:::' cultivate a close and inti ma t e W h ence w .) Cherokee Indians, whq, occup3ing as they d,: files of the Alleghenies, would , orm a Terrain. wark between the yowl Anglo-Saxo n r t y j i, the French poesessions on the Mae,,,,i pp. permanent bulwark conld no more resist the sat,, mg wave than a lath and plaster breakwyer 01 .'4 withstand the seas of the Channel. In a few years not a vestige of it was to be found, and than a quarter of a century both French and tt , • had disappeared from the Nicene. Not only • _ defiles of the Alleghenies opened, but the A;;• : themselves have since been virtually ramove,!. Ever since the foundation of the repo;,, American kinsmen have been anxinns to surpass ns in indulg , ng that desire fur acquisition, which seems to be, fur the iv least, the ruling passion of the Anglo•Saa.,, Confined at first between the Alegbanies t, • Atlantic, they gradually spread westwan! • Mississippi, of both backs of which, front r.. to its embouchure, they possessed thernse.lri, 7 as 1801. Their emit lire, which, extend beyond the St. Nlary, was soon at', , carried round the peninsula of Fiords, and e' r northern shore of the Mexican Gulf, we‘tw:rd the mouth of the Sabine. Not satisfied they planted themselves in T. earl, and ‘,„„ afterwards transferred their 1 19u:wary • , e • •te etio Grande. Oregon, New M x.co, a..! t forma, fell in quick possession w thin .f the confederacy. The entire disappearacc f Spaniard from the continent is a cora . immi• • o e v f e t u b d e o u e b n c t ! r u o l a , c b h u simply ka. a s w a a x i ,m t in . ,r; t c F"r ter sion of Canada, time is implicitly rehid - idea of conquest in ti:at quarter 1).-i -g o:• • • question—and thus it is that even s tber-ant d . 7. are beginning to believe that the time is no. will whe be realised,ntheglowitthiparte bmln o t teeiesl r t i h e e most „ would yet be the Isthmus, the North Yule. : two oceans. Aprreed to. COURT OF PREROGATIVE (IRELAND) BILL. Oa the motion of Mr. MONSELL, Mr. Page Wood WY added to the select committee on this bill. The house then adjourned a taw minutes before six o'clock. HOUGH OP LORDS.—On Tuesday the reprt W/B promoted from the select committee, to whom wee referred be Audit of Railway Accounts Bill (Lord Stanley's I end the Railway Audit Bill (the government measure), stating that it was not expedient to proceed further with the mid bills. Earl Granville then laid on the table the Railway Audit (No. 2) Bill, which was read a ant time and ordered to be printed. Were it not for the loot of terri•or:a: p with which recent events have, mere or pregnated the whole American mir.d, • desperadoes who have just staled for . meet with the fate merited by 93 199. s -. • clone an expedition. We are at no lose to rd, the materials of which the buccaneericx - • posed. The Texan and Mexican called into existence a b idy of restless and lone men, who are now thrown ba k upc.n patioes, for which, howecer,their , xi, have totally unfitted them. and who are re any enterprise, however clesp. , ratr. Alth, number many thousands, tip y pla-e their ma r. ance upon the readiness with which they cc. upon the passions and ambition of their cum.:: • They know that however unjustifiable an en: , may be, all that they require to turn its de chances in their favour, is to mat dash at it, and surround it with glitter cf a momentary some's. From that In the perceptions of tight and wr mg become In the minds of multitudes of their counts., 7:17' . are ready to flock in thousands to he scene and to give more or lets of a national CAS: • • • of a handful of lawless desperadoes. For nearly half a century Cubs has coveted by the American tie lite. ; • sources, and political condition have 137, 7 . ultimate tate a matter of s b •t`.. • - vernment and people of the republic. l:s in their eyes has refereLce to ::s • in a military point of view, and to t:., liar character of its institutions. Tne mission of its noble hars.urs has long h. coveted by the American ;oven:men', which t. not a military harbour of any cins.quence fr Hampton Roads at the en•rence t • Cl.esapetke to the mouth of the Rio Grande. 1 gu'A is becoming more an American than Nlexican whilst the Americans are at.xious of harbours which would trai s!er many of the West Indian sae, they are tear Cubs, through the weakne , s of t!:-. tu 01, r should suddenly fall into the clut...h,s of a power. It was to prevent this tilt: an :1r.,! , • was early come to that the Amer:cu. should guarante the p.iesvesiou o f t . _;bs provided Sp lin reamed it aga . !:st of the world. They were great a prize falling into • England, as England may now 111 transferred to theirs. But sa the Amyl aa. extends itself along the inh , spitlb.e @thin- Gulf, the possession t f Cuba b,e M , more a' indispensable to them ; especi ,!!y teh. n we the exultant basis which it w.t41.1 txm f.r a rations which might be plat Ind for the Mexico, and for c.rrying into et,..; t;‘, the Isthmus, which are alreaty significantly to develops thetult;vo. siderations which have long beta fmn li..r Amt rican mind, and which ree, iced a tre.h teem the unguarded rettoinnienaa•ion4 GEORGE BENTINCE ; from which we may. in date the origin of the present expedi!ion. We cannot believe that such ivraiderallots t VieW innlu:: induced the PILESIDEIiT to tvunive in Nit enterprise now on foot. We b. lit re Gen. kl be imbued with a sincere derire to rasa honour end integrity et tf•e republic. lit.• it, 11., that there are men in the country, tco, who will turn this nefgrioua pr. pe% :: the slightest headway, to poliliesi purpose , . will omit no effort to commit their country enterprise. It is on this that the buccaneer. • •-. selves mainly rely for ultimate sucoss. • be able to inaugurate their enterprise with s ful inception. It they ate able t o :A! maintain their ground, news to twit effect i immediately transmitted to New Orleans. 1 , 1 hour afterwards it will bo thro length and breadth of the coati' ent, where thou.ands whom it will detach from • heir 00' and who will converge with all haste upon tits -• seaports to Cuba, with a view of twing tritied- r. the scene of action and sharing in the 4:11.• i , t plunder. Conspiracies are not now-a-days hatchet 0.•-• secretly of former times. The expedition ir , 1 -1 , was got up in the light of day. but at dater n! of the country, and under the very pliusible .r, of proceeding to California. It is perfect:, v.' , therefore, that the government 011 really been deceived, particularly wi.en we wine th-tt the report was industriott-ly eircubeert ago that an expedition against Cuba watthe:n4 . or4 i• at some point on the Isthmus. A,/ soon 144 verument b.came aware of the real character expedition, prompt inesairet were taken pression, but unizrtunately the first denichme n. sailed for tho island in time, it w is supposed. to r• interception. If the government is sincere, as we &Li% t. I: it is yet in its power to crush the eao..dithin. only to place its cruisers between Oil, Cubau ort the ports on the Mexican gulf,and the mirstitem have already sailed, will be le , t to rile bee merit. But the tear is, the the arm a flu Zit, erpreoo. OUTGOING MAILS. The mails for Lisbon, Spain, and Gibraltar will be made up to-morrow morning. The mails for British North America and the United States will be made up to-morrow evening. The mails rod Marseilles, to the Mediterranean, Egypt, ecyloa, lad* Hong-Kong, do., will be made up to-morrow evrainr, The Wait India Mails, excluding Bermuda, Havannah, Vassals, lin , ,duras, New Orleans, and Mexico, and includine 11••• for Madeira, St. Juan-de-Nicaragua, New Granada, Chili, and Peru, will be made up on the evening of June 17. The mails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the 10111=1 11111114:16, Egypt, Ceylon, India, and China, via Southampton, wily be lade up on the morning of June 20. The mails for Maderia, the Bruils, and Buenos Lyres, will as made up on the evening of July 4. MOM WAITR AT WNDON MUDGE., T 0•7::ii011;;Z: To-weasom—llsealm II It. Oa. us. oa. LONDON, THURSDAY, JUNE 6. MR. HENRY DRUMMOND made himself, last niih•, the exponent of a philosophy that is as old as the bills —for it was acted upon in ancient Egypt and in India—and which has been resuscitated for the use of the present day. This is the doctrine, that learn ing is very dangerous, and highly unf• fbr the com monalty—that science tends to makepeople doubt, and render them inquisitive and troublesome. Moreover, the same philosophy holds " that knowledge ;a not happiness," because "it increases the sense of suff 4r ing," and therefote, " ignorance being bliss, 'tie folly to be wise." Now, we will frankly, and at once admit, that there was at least some canning and consistency in this philosophy of ignorantism, when the gold old monks preached it: for, knowing nothing themselves, it was tut fair that they should endeavour to keep thrive they preyed upm, in the same b!essed state of ignorance. Moreover, they attempted what was possible : for the church and the higher classes having a great horror of cultivating intellect, even for themselves, there was no aperture, no way, by which knowledge could descend upon the people. But, in the present day, when the atmosphere is as replete wi . h know ledge as with light •, when ideas are sown, like those seeds to which nature has given gossamer wings, wide through the air; when the press, when the mouth are for ever scattering new and strange ideas; and when the veriest hind in the remotest of d•s•ricts cannot but hear thinvs and queries that ren der his interests, and through them his intellect, in quisitive—in such an age as this to hope to consign such a people as the English to the happiness of ignorance, is one of those preposterous laves that only germ in the brain of a country squire. Cultivate, says Friar DRUMMOND, tne moral fa-til ties, independently of the intellectual ones. In other words, bring men as nearly as possible to the state of the beast, with instinct and with habit for his guide, but no reasoning, no knowledge, no discernment. Let the relations of the sizes be according to rule; let the labourer submit to his task, like the ox, and ask no questions. Let rest be allowed them on a Sun day. Let him have no judgment, no choice, no information or sharp - .ess of intellect. Let man not be a reasoning animal, but a drudging one. This is what Mr. HENRY DRUMMOND proposes; it is simply to reduce man to the level of the beasts, that perish. There is no UV, whatever, in arguing whether this be expedient or useful ; because, in fact, it is impos sible—impossible at least in England. The very foundation, the sulistrat•ste of an Englishman's ideas, viz , his religion, necessitates and demands intellect and its exercise. The Englishman from his cradle is bidden to inquire; his very Bible opens to him the gates of knowledge, makes him inquisi tive and argumentative. He cannot be a Christian but by the development of his intellectual as well as his moral powers. If the Reformstion effected any one gr, at thing it was this, that it subs ituted an in tellectual religion for an imaginative one. W date say that conservatives, like Mr. DRUM MOND, and high churchmen, deem that we liberals recommend secular education from the hope that it will advance free and anti-religious ideas. Now, for ourselves, we declare that we know of no sneer way of producing a free-thinking age, than to teach people to read, and, at the same time, give them an exclusively religious education : for, as we have observed before, the world is and wall be shaken to-' gether, and each man be associated with his fellows in • much higher and closer degree than ever was the case in p-st times. What with locomotioe, inter change, association, a pipular preset, p3pular oratory, no man can henceforth eec pe hearing, and being touched by, the ideas, the opinions, and the feelings that float throughout the land. A century ago, Et g- Itshmen were hermits, each in his cell, oompared with their aggregate and sicial nature at present. In fifty years England will be one vast foram, with space and distances so annihilated, that • thought or a truth will run from one extremity of the land to theother, and or heard by every ear. flateenien may keep up stamp duties on loam's ' and decree that there shall be none but clerical teach ing; but the progress of society laughs at such puny impedimenta And whatever war parliament may think tit to wage a l pinist t electric intercommunication of thoug it, assuredly the electric sciet.oe will neat it. this lt that wi is in visi on RNl l state suncßhemamoNu and his of soci l etyu fol lowers would apply the old rules and maxims of the Monkish wisdom of the middle ages, that they would make people ignorant, lest they should be froward, and emasculate man of his intellect, in order, forsooth, that he might ran quieter in politiiml harness. A century and a half ago an Eng lish moralist wrote that a "little learning was a dangerous thing,' but Mr. DatatutEsu would have nosch learning more so. Ile mistrusts the human intellect, and fears that its cultivation must n, ccsairtly lead to a harvest of poison I just as he tem% that the pursuits of science and the study of wattle might lead to disproval or to doubts of the • xist. , nos of the deity. We do trust that Englishmen have too much confidence in their own intellects and in the prevalence of truth, abive all of divine 1 troth, to entertain such patiilliniituous, such puerile, and, indeed, such protege. misgivings. Rees" we I 11 tt 118 tt th th th fa tt 111 to ti V a tb of of ot C tb as bi pi al fr a of fa th et ea fa tO BC P tt • tr P It ti. re in fi pl ci ci p p p ti wt • of P' • re tt • ti • tt al Cl CC • ti to d U is • I ■ ti ti bi ql ee • it if • ti d •r C a tT ~e • :ne •.• ,s ,c , 73 r." : '5 a • ,e . • o 1•