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GlO of anch mode, and tht state of tho hooks and stock of store:. In support of his motion, he gave the house somo. extraordinary detiuls or the strange doings at Weedon, and he hinted that the inquiries of the co.nonissioners should not be confined to that particular establishment. The motion was seconded by Mr. Gusts. General PEEL said he did not intend to resist the motion for a commission, which would do justice to every one, and he believed it would be found that many of the statements made before the committee of which Colonel Boldero was chairman were not correct. In the meanwhile, he hoped the house would suspend its opinion. Mr. T. G. Baring, Mr. Jackson, Mr. Coningham, and Mr. Nicoll spoke in favour of the motion, which wag agreed to. Certain bills were forwarded their respective stages, and, the remaining business having been disposed of, the house adjourned at a quarter past one o'clock. ROUSE OF LORDS—TUESDAY. The consideration or the Victoria Station and Pimlico Railway Bill was adjourned, in order that the First Commission3r of Public Works should be beard by counsel against it. The Leases and Sales of Settled Estates Act Amendment Bill was read a second time. The County Management Bill was read a second time. Lord BROUGHAM postponed the second reading of the Independence of Parliament Bill till Monday next. Lord ST. LEONARD'S asked the Archbishop of Canterbury whether he intended to introduce a bill for improving the law of sequestrations, with a view to deter incumbents from getting into debt or obtaining advances of money on the credit of their livings, and compelling and enabling them to reside and perform their duties although their livings are under sequestration. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY stated that a measure, intended to remedy the defects of the present law, had been prepared, but as there was little chance of such an act being passed this year, it had been postponed until the next session. The bill enacted that, where the clergyman was neces sarily absent from his du►y, a much larger stipend would be paid to the curate, and that the curate should be put in possession of the parsonage house ; further than this the authorities of the Church thoaght it vas not within their powers to go. Their lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS—TuEsnLy. At the morning sitting the house was occupied in committeee with the clauses of the Galway Freemen Disfranchisement Bill, an attempt in the committee to arrest the progress of the bill having failed. In the evening, AUSTRIA AND THE PORTE. Mr. DUFF inquired whether her Majesty's Govern ment had been informed of, or believed in, the existence of any agreement, written or verbal, between Austria and the Porte, whereby the former power engaged to give assistance to the latter in case of an outbreik in European Turkey. Mr. S. FITZGERALD observed that the question was a comprehensive and an unprecedented one, and he doubted wbether any advantage could be derived by the house or the country front questions so vague and of such a roving character. No information of the nature described had been received by her Majesty's Government. HAINAULT FOREST. Mr. CAIRD called attention to the expenditure incurred by the Department of Woods and Forests on the Crown allotment of Hainault, and moved a resolution that the costs or management on the Crown allotment of Hainault, since the date of the act under which it was disafforested, had been ex cessive, and that the management generally had not been satisfactory. He supported his motion by details of wasteful expenditure and excessive costs of management on the one hand, and of injudicious management. on the other. Mr. g. A HxxxuroN explained the circumstances connected with this allotment, the expenditure in curred in the various processes of reclamation (which, he said, Mr. Laird had overstated), and the general result, which, he contended, did not justify a resolution equivalent to a vote of :ensure upon a pnb'ic department. After a short discussion, in which Sir J. Shelley, Sir J. Trollope, Mr. Wilson, and Sir H. Willoughby p trticipated, Mr. Caird replied, and the motion was then negatived. ENDOWED SCHOOLS IN IRELAND. Mr. KIRK, in a speech of considerable length, called attention to the report of the Commissioners of Endowed Schools in Ir..lnni, end urged the neces sity of prompt remedies being spplied to the evils and abuses which that report disclosed, suggesting certain remedies. He co teln ied by moving a reso ution to that eff,:c'. • THE PRESS, J.IY 3, 1858. Lord NAAS agreed that the report of the commis sioners did disclose a most extraordinary state of things in relation to the endowed schools, but in considering the remedies great difficulties presented themselves, he observed, on account of the difference of opinion among the commissioners upon essential points. It was impossible yet to say how the Go vernment proposed to deal with the question. If a solution could be found, it would be one that could be only arrived at after much consideration, and the subject would occupy their serious attention during the recess. Mr. Greer, Mr. Grogan, Mr. Lefroy, Mr. Dobbs, and Mr. Hassard continued the discussion, which embraced the whole subject of education in reland. Mr. KIRK withdrew his motion. ORANGE CONFEDERATION. Mr. J. FITZGERALD called attention to the address of the House of Commons to his late Majesty, of the 2/th of February, 1836, and his Majesty's gracious answer thereto, and to the recent appoint. ment of Mr. Cecil Moore, Grand Secretary of the Tyrone Orange Lodge, to the office of Sessional Crown Prosecutor for the county of Tyrone, and moved the following resolution : That the appointment to offices connected with the ad ministration of the criminal law of members of the Orange confederation, or of any other political confederation founded on principles of religious exclusion, inculcating secrecy on its members, and acting by means of delegates or representatives, and of affiliated branclirs, tends to create well-founded jealousy and suspicion highly detri mental to the ends of justice, and ought to be discouraged. He described the motion as one of great practical importance. After drawing a picture of the character, objects, and effects of the Orange confede ration, and referring to the circumstances under which the Address of 1830 had been adopted by the house, he observed that his object was not to sup press the confederation by force, but that the Go vernment should not give encouragement to what the late Sir R. Peel had characterized as a dangerous association, which had been condemned by that house, and which professed to have dissolved itself, but the society was reorganized in 1845, the rules being, he said, essentially the same as those of 1821 and 1830, and there being no substantial distinction between the societies of those dates. He adduced evidence to show the mischievous effects of these societies ; that the course of justice was defeated, and that when Orangemen were charged with heinous crimes the funds of the society were applied to their defence. He dwelt upon these effects, because they applied to the administration of criminal justice, and consequently to the subject of the motion. He had not one word to say against Mr. Moore, who was fully competent to the duties of his office; the only objection was that he was a member of the confe deration, which it was the bounden duty of the Government to discourage. Mr. WHITESIDE complained that Mr. Fitzgerald should have chosen a time when the attention of Parliament was occupied with matters of importance for a motion which was ill-calculated to insure peace and tranquillity in Ireland. He had attacked the Orange Association, he said, as if the Government had taken it under its protection, or had declared by some unequivocal act that its administration was to be conducted upon the principles he had indicated ; confessing, at the same time, that the gentleman who had been appointed to an office of 1401. a year was eminently qualified to discharge its duties. He ( Mr. Whiteside) admitted that the Orange Associa tion was reorganized, owing, as the resolutions stated, to "the circumstances of the times," to maintain the Union, the Protestant religion, the monarchy, and the British Government against the designs of Mr. O'Connell, who desired to revolutionize Ireland. He deprecated such motions as this, founded, he said, upon scraps of newspapers and exploded tales, as being calculated to excite had passions, inflame re sentments, and revive forgotteu animosities. In justifying his appointment of Mr. Moore he produced a testimonial in his favour signed by deputy-lieute nants, magistrates, gentry, and clergy, including four Roman Catholic priests, and mentioned that Mr. Moore had anted as Sessional Crown Prosecutor under Mr. Fitzgerald himself when Attorney- Generel for Ireland. He added that Mr. Moore did not hold the office of Grand Secretary of the Orange Lodge, which he had resigned last October, and that when he made the appointment lie was not aware that Mr. Moore had ever held an office under the association. ------- Mr. FITZGERALD, in his reply, declared that he was nor cognizant cf Mr. Cecil Moore having acted as Sessional Crown Prosecutor under him, or of his having ceased to be Grand Secretary before his appointment. Lord PAuterts - ros said he. had felt considerable pain at the revival of animosities connected with a state of things which one would have hoped had cease". or was on the verge of ceasing. Being led to that influences of Government might be exerted to induce by persuasion those who had reorganized this association to feel that the time had passed for such societies, he recommended that the question should not be pressed to a division. Lord J. RUSSELL adverted to the circumstances under which the resolution of 1836 was adopted, and asked whether it was now desired to overturn and repudiate that resolution. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, after cen suring the motion, denied that there was anything either in the motion or the answer to it which jus tified the suggestion of . Lord John Russell. The policy of Government with regard to Ireland would be one entirely adapted to the changed circumstances of the country, generous and conciliatory, not recog nizing any difference of creed or patty. After a few words from Mr. ROEBUCK, who said he could not vote for the motion, which would be a direct and undeserved censure upon Mr. Whiteside, the motion was negatived. The orders of the (lay were then gone through, and, after some other business, the house adjourned at twenty-five minutes to two o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS—WEDNESDAY. MARRIAGE LAW AMENDMENT BILL. The adjourned debate on going into committee upon this bill was resumed by Mr. LYGON, who moved to defer the committee for three months. The bill, he said, differed in many important particulars from the bills of 1849 and 1855 ; it opened large questions, and bad hitherto received very little discussion, and, considering the lateness of the session, lie thought it would be better to post pone legislation upon the subject. After a short conversation, upon a division, the amendment was negatived by 99 to 58, and the houso went into committee upon the bill, the clauses of which were agreed to alter a warm discussion, occu pying nearly the whole of the sitting. Mr. DEEDES moved the second reading of the Protection of Female Children Bill, sent from the House of Lords, where, he said, it bad received the sanction of the Lord Chief Justice. The bill was read a second time. Mr. HUNT moved the second reading of the Members' Freedom from Arrest Bill, urging that the reasons for the privilege bad ceased, and that its re tention was unnecessary. Mr. BOUVERIE opposed the bill. Mr. Hunt, he said, had misconceived the nature of this privilege, which was not the personal privilege of members, but the privilege of constituencies and of the house itself. He moved to defer the second reading for three months. This amendment was supported by Mr. CAM/MED and Mr. H. BERKELEY. Upon a division the amendment was negatived by 129 to 75, and the bill was read a second time. The other orders wore then gone through, and the house adjourned at six o'clock. HOUSE OF LORDS—THURSDAY. CHURCH PATES. In presenting petitions for the abolition of church• rates, the Earl of DERBY stated that he totally dis sented from the prayer of the petitioners, and when the hill on the subject came on for discussion, if no other peer did so, he should move that it be read a second time that day six months. OATHS BILLS. The Earl of DERBY said : Before my noble and learned friend ( Lord Lyndhurst) rises to move the second reading of the bill of which he has given notice, perhaps your lordships will allow me, though not strictly in order, to say a few words upon the position in which the house stands with regard to the three bills which are to-night to be considered. But before Idoso I feel it my duty in a single sentence to express to your lord ships, and more especially to noble lords opposite, my grateful thanks for the forbearance and courtesy with which they have submitted to my involuntary absence, in con sequence of an illness, from which I am now only imper fectly recovered. Hear, hear.) I must also express my hope that n) material public inconvenience has arisen or will arise from the postponement artil I should be able to attend of some discussions from which I should be very sorry to be absent. ( Hear, hear.) With respect to the question which is about to be brought under your lordships' notice, a bill passed through the House of Commons, and was submitted to your lordships, for the alt-ration of certain oaths now required to be taken by members of both Houses of Parliament, and a clause was introduced in that bill, as it came up to your lordships, which dispensed with certain words of one of the oaths. Those clauses were struck out by your lordships, and the bill so amended was sent down to the other house. The House of Commons returned the bill, objecting to your lordships' amendments, and stating their reasons. Upon the second discussion of th s bill in your lordships' house my noble and gallant friend very unexpectedly gave notice, on the day before the Whitsuntide holidays, of his intention to move an amend ment, without stating the nature or character of that amendment. On the first day after the holidays my noble and gallant friend ( the Earl of Litcsn ) moved a resolution substantially to this effect,—that the other house should have the power, by Act of Parliament, to dispense, by a resolntion of the house.. with the words " no the true faith of a Christian," in the case of members °Rite Jewish pet suasion. That amendment took me and moat of your lordships by surprise. My noble and gallant friend having