The Express. — London, England, 1850-07-06 00:00:00

IDIPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—FRIDAY, JULY 5. The house met at five o'clock; Lord Lamellate sat Speaker. PRIVATE BUSINESS. Sitcom) BlAOlXo.—Newerstir-epos- l'yme Improvement (amendment of acts sad new streets) SD. Tonto Ituap.mes —Tooke' . toy Steers BrVits and Reds (411 continue and amend the sets Meth* to the store bridge and roads) Tyne Navilstinn • Bills. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PEII HOES PRESENTED. BIIALL TRICSNIINTS ILITtsO DILL. —By the Marquis of LONDONDERRY, truss Slaihrtand, in favour of this WM. ADMISSION OS Jaw* To I'ADLIAMIINT.—Bi the guts of LONDONDERRY, from a place in *county of Durham, spinet Ike admii•ion of Jews toliarliaMeot. CoIIITT Conan EXTENSION BILL.—By Lord BEAU MONT, from B irristapie, favour of this bill. FaCroiT Lamar a.—By L. rl BEAUMONT, from the operatives in (Lifetime factories; the Bishop of MAN CHESTER. Wm a place sot heard ; the Duke of RICH MOND, teens Ear' ; in favour of an adleient Tea Bean Bill. Maanzaora BILL —By Ewl °REY, from the disSlNters of Cusbrlnpr ; Lard STANLEY, from Bolton, Mencius kt, Haywood, ant other pl:ers , in favour of tlr!s bill. AONICVLMCAL DISMISS —By the Duke of :RICH MOND, from a plats Li Noessik, complainisg of agricul total Home" THE PROPOSED EXHIBITION IN HYDE-PARK. Lied CAMPBELL ma that lest nighthis noble Mend (Earl Granville) sated that his (Lord C impbell's) eldest em had signed a mormoriel is &vela of the Exhilittioa of 1851, and praying that it might be held In tiyde-i ark. He did tot contradict the statement last night, beicaute he wished to prtiertly accurate as to the fact. Ho sow fouod that same mortis ago ti 4 hon. r.l tire waned a assoriel in Item of the yr meted exhibition. bat without the slightest felatillie to llyde pack, or any other place, as the ate Br it. Earl GRANVILLE said that the statement which he made was that is Aped lest. two mon•hs alter Hyds-pack, as the had ben e-'ecte 1, Mr Campbell signed a requisition, approving of the t :jets of the exhibitioa, and which ended with the words "ole.sidering it advantageous to the maw palls, and psetimilarir to the lumen part of it." The Essl of W IcKLOW reownsaensted who open area be tweet the Reg.:Ws-park and Primmee-hill, av en eligible mite. It wee soeMposso to • sacson of ono of the most im portant raisers. (Hear.) Aert • few word' from the Earl of ELLENBOROVOII and lbe Marquis of Lassonwem. the subject dropped. DENMARK AND THE DUCHIES. Lord BEAUXON T said that • report had beta spread spas a suhlec. which was of great importance to the trade of this easittey so ti r as the Baltic, and, he might say, the peace of Europe, were caramel. It had bees mama tam the nenotlatiorm. which bad now eateaditd over a long p. rise. had deafly terminated, happily, a teepee: to the diffaspects between D.nusars eau rnosia. If this were tree, the wooer that statement was melirsed the better ; aid he heeled to atlt the cable 'marquis if it wee comet? The Menials of LANSDOWNE tad great satisfastion is beim t emelt ed to wane the house that a treaty of peace. • - ma cad to all between Prussia and Den mark, had bees onweladcd ander the mediation of this titan re. FALL! AMEN TART ELECTORS (IRELAND) BILL. Ore the moque et the M ago:. of LANSDOWNE, the house went into somaiHn on this bill. On clause 2, Lord STANLEY moved as an anandment that the coup meacement of the new registration *Mull be delayed until the I.: of Jane L. et. This amendment was cppmed by Lord Mostermle, the Maaanis of Lansdowne, aid &al Clirsy ; and, slier MILS firdisr Giandslas, the el-aideratiost of thme point was rt gamed. sad the claw ordered to sand weer. After rime oroertis had been made with the classes. LW.' STANLEY mopos.d a stoma ameadmest for j timitting the clause by wk regtstatieu was mad* compul sory or ievoluatary. la England. he drooled, the elev., was shays momircd to pester Ind substantiate hie own et km to Ole false se, and the possibility of keeping hie. name tof of roe mister wra s-tn.timart eransiest, as abiakling lenatta Mid psybkienerts from the undo.: iutiossoes too often e It erased b their .siselords sad the }Meets. Thu marqats of Lmsdnerne, Earl Grey, Lord Meateaeo, and leo. 1 Berliebiasy *violist. the am-ndusey.t, skink was orsprited DI Lord 11.:' , ufe.;&112 =1 L ad Cilangall. Their leedshite then diet lid— Far the aseadaten• 63 fl 9-14 The lastraliaa GO:013111, Dll was t. id • third time and rasedt t w i t b r aphips adjourned at 20 minutes to 10 n'clock. HOUSE OF 4..OII3IONB.—FtuDAY, JuLT 6. TM took tat? elute at 4 &emelt. TRIVIVIE BUSINESS. Tinto Itaanisaa.—ltiver Lea True.; Wu: Cornwall R;;;;1 7 ; PCISLIC 131.78111E55. TETI [IONS Pit ES LNTED. Worpow Su J. DUKE, from tit Ina al Far- ,o,i•arbout. StanAY TRADtso Pssvean»r Btu.—lly Mr. R. WALL. tram tin iaditida ' e...:iphinind of tvidenta given beton the consult - et es tbieVli. Ittoome Tss —Bs Mr PLUMP IRE, from plates in go• ?RIM 111 tth 01. i) Fata.olr SWIIIIE-S.—By 11r. GREESg, from Wray. 7141, read. and TLabr:ils.., far • till Liz the preten ds", LI 0:t1 Fie Societin. llanaitor• Dtta. —By Mr. BUCK, from Cookbary, , p inst this DU Mot, 3rimte IN Ross Ils..t.—Dy Mr. KEOGH. from • 1 . .. in in lee;sall, ta fulmar LI the bil L 1 2 ..,5r-orrlct.—By Sit T. ABLY, from Lyme Tillie, 'galas: ti.. /Loom p stal regulations; Mr. DUCK, from C0.,1 ars, aiai-at Sanday Maar ; Mr. A. BASTIN, tram Okagow, play'aitt 'hat the present mem mu not be chaos , d t Mr. PLUMPTItS, kcal plasm in Kent ; Mr. W./sTY:S, in m a piaci in :be cotmty of Flint, ;raying that gee meta: obtuse in the portal arraLgesneats may ham • fall and lair viol. COrItT nP CJIANCIAT (LANLASTLR) BILL —By Mr. M. WIL.SUN, :rim the Po:kite's :a favour of this Tats PARLIAMLNT.ULT OAT* BILL —By Lord GAL WAY. :-cm Worksop, Nutty ; Sir W. CODRINOTON (4), grew pi e r s in Ofcercrerkra ; Lord LEWlsium (3), from paiiihis in Waraitlnkin • Mr. T. HILDYAB.D, from plane in Nutinchemarire ; Dlr. B. DRUMMOND, tram .libere, Surrey. and from eargrogration of St. John's Clap t, Diartoo ; Mr. BtCK (73, from places in North Du.s ; sir. PLUIIPTItE, trim Ctierahureh, Dever; Or mr-.1 LY:3ON, from Vl...va4cy and Brockleton ; S.r J. Ir. LII.I.EIt, :rem placer in Snu h Divot; Mr.KER BRYII EU, Iron place* in Dsint,Llro ; Mr HENLEY, *cm p'• -• in Oxfiedeltins;_7lr. BLANEY. from plops in Bib*; Sir E. N. BUXTON, from places in Saffolk—sgainst the adatinim A Jew. T., paritacent. Aulocrkvoctr DI:TR: :.3. Br L-id BROOKE, (um Saito Was•iikehlre,rigned by 6,0 1 :0 parsers, complaining • r:e•-.ltur4l distr.. r, aril praying for raiser; Mr. PLUMPTRE, tram far.nera and triter inhabita-ds cf St. Peter's, Isle rf Th stet, to same *Met. L..w,.—Hy Mr. CAYLEY, from s eottaty mewing • :ki!.in, s;grrd at th• meeting ,Ly 1,600 of this most respects..le names in the smarty, complaining of the effects of tne repeal of the cora.l-vis,'Lad iskiog kg a moderate dot;, sod for talk( from , axatior. MALT Tate—By Mr. CHRISTOPHER (G 2), from abaft is L'reolrs. ;en lion. DIEDIBER, from a place in au' ; Mr. HRNLEY• from a in OiCordshlre Mr. ME WDEGATE (-anti .1), irtni places in Warwick shire; Mr. I. NEEL') (4), from Wittsh=re ; Mr. H. Daum- MOND, how Efwra ; Lcr I LEWISRAM, hem Tenni. hall, B:aff minion • Mr. PLUZIPTRE, from Si. Peter's, As!. mlin .of To ; Sir J. 1Y itELL '6O). Isom Essex; 8w W. aoLirFE, from placer. In li..mp.hise; Mr. EVELYN, from Kings:on-ow Thae.:ts ; Ur. CAYLEY, from the follow kg pan s in Norfolk :—Fan had, Banton, Brosiegbas, Fivashaal, Dickle'rergh, pariah of Ashwelthorpe, ?tint of Stamtie, porno of Eushasa, parish of Ballingford, pariah of Harlatan. perish of Thorpe Abous, parish of Paktum, St. Mary Magdalen; parish of Broekdish, pariah of r...b m, St. Marl tha Virgin ; prr:sh of Needham, parish of ',hal% parish of A:barge, parish of Whitweli, parish of Dart - LI tetra, Ra ihars, Western Division of the entity, iahrtatar'r of Dias, p .rish of SLeiton, parish of Stielginger, Trrltrr, Stumplleg, Titionlam, Tiveishell, St. Mary ; iuha blrants of Desoram, W. st Norfolk , and Banton. eatfa Barges, Ikaniagh, Tiviuhsll, Baum, Oiling, Hen. writ ; Wths—Rantsbary„ Wroaphton, Stratton, Aldbourno, feat:A.loin, Br.topetow, Ctieladon, Highworth, Cutle E llstiempow. Barks— Sluinnham. Method— Water N rds lkiiing of Yorkshint—Manby,C,wsby, Nom Malabo, Dio n Mcrktun. Id 3 from Eras tigned by 1%7 14 plinedts, as follows :—nlerlymus, 91; nal:icemen a arnmen. ; forlorn and labourers, 6,074; other prone, 127 —Maier BEIRESIORD (saveral), tram places in Essex. —:dr. PORTAL (a large rumba), from Hampshire, in fa war of the repeal of 'he malt tax. (2dany of these petitions gar pray. 4 I.r On airmitleed er rerkictinn of the hop ditties.) LAND REVENUE.; OF THE CROWN. Load DUNCAN gave notice that as Tanday next he 'mold mores rewilistioa for pluck., the had rowans. of the adieu radar the control N parliament. AT TORNEyTCRIITIFICATES BILL. In reyi; se Iron Lent R Out7Zers74r7e, —. Ihe CtIANCELLOR ot the EXCIiIitQUIIII mid he pr. pyled to t.ke the Attanga• Cestileatee BMus Friday nett • before impar t _ THE A&SISTAIU SURATIRONS IN TUX ROYAL NAVY. napt. BOLDBRO wi heite eek the fight hoe. gentle , man the hot lord of the Arba:ralty. whet •tepe bad beat tekr• la trwitqamte at tho vote of the 8.1% of April, deela. Soo that ammemodatios provided for ' , Mateo% eargorne em toned her 111.1. sty's victor wu insulfi:ieot. 8.: F. BALLING mid that lo the courie of the debate he Aided that there was a tibia deuicate4 to the parpous of study ea the part fifths waistaat surgeons. On enquiry it appeared that though the order had bee.. Mooed by the Admiralty, It Ilt.d Lot Leen earr:ed out to the fall extent. 1: ear the intentim of the Admiralty to take care that it Auld be fay carried out. With regard is the ammo for the meistant.surgeoce, the vote of the lei.% I fpl bus attended to, and he bad most assimuly Waited 14 ass how tar it was possible to carry it %aunty ,ate 1(1 c• ; het, irsfortunately, It happesed that they ost64 sot by a tote of ILA 1r.....• aid to the mum ',Weirs of a ship, and while it was their "aldose wish to Rive accommodation to all the %Ificen of the service, yet they Lad tie Oat" to be taken into comi , !zratiin—me wu the 0114•14 CT Oldie ship itullas a ship of soar, and the other was the iateeknaeo with the iscoomodetion of the crew. THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 6, 1850. In some shim it would be possible to give that additional assoutarldation to the essistant-nrgeons without later- Admiraltwinth that of the crew, in to mere tho ty had directed that sacommodation to be given, bet la some Oche smaller Mitts of war it would not be OW Tiniest to do so without infringing the two points to whist+ he had just alluded. TREATY BE [WREN PRUSSIA AND DENMARK. It reply to Mr. DIARAILI, Lord PALMERSTON said that be was glad to be We to inform the house that the goverment had reeelved a de spatch from her Majesty's mbister at B. Oils, containing • copy of • dabble° treaty of pesos which had been entered late ea the enend cf thb math by the Kieg of Deem* on the one hand, and the Kist of Prussia on the other os Idioms behalf and in behalf of BEAR Colonel VERNER suing that the Secretary for Ireland wm absent, wished to know from the Secretary of Slats who. Mar it was true that it was the intention of the Irish govern ment to take legal proceedings against those protestants who as insterniag home on the 12th of July last, were attacked by bias body of rebels; and whether such a course, if =Stwould be • jut and fair am and would be calm. o allay the rancorous feeling that eziated between them two partim la Ireland ? Sir G. GREY said that la answering the titre , ion it would not be for him to say whether such a °outs*, if adopted by the Secretary for Ireland, would be right or wrong. All he could say was, that he had not received any information as to whether any such proceedinrs were to be taken. PAROCHIAL ASSESS]IENT BILL. In answer to Mr. STAFFORD, Sir G. GREY said it would not be prudent to take into consideration the amendments to this bill, while the con ahem of the other home were proceeding with as lotiairy whisk they had betituted in the matter. SAVINGS BANKS BILL. In answer to Mr. Ilipmay, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he had mid bet - he was not able to name a dav daeled. la net be difieslt to transfer tkle seas a seasumers' ea, to cyder, yarns, of othor articles ' hem whist dada bad been mimed, oa far less greeds thee salsts4 for the repeal of the one is gasmen. Bat midi Wee that there ma se ream he suppeniag that the assust eft a• tan might not be node op without having seems* tit ramy each expedient. In 1849 the melt duty, after deducing drawbacks, allowances. and 6 per amt. for ex ponces of odleetios, produed 4,612.7001. Tke Chancellor el the Batavia bad estimated his 'triples he the present Teat at 1 i millions, 750,0001. he devot.d to the repeal of the brick duty. and to the redaction of the stamp duty, sad the ether 760,0001. to paying off part of the public debt. Now, he sboold state, in the tint plaoe, that if he ahead second in carrying his motion he did not propose te interfere with the right hon. gestleman's flaancial arrsatsessats fa the potent year, but that the malt tax should be repeeed by innalments, ore-ball on April 6th melt year, end the other half on the 6 th of the following October. But with regard to the position of the revenue and the power of the Chaneellor of the Exchequer, to afford to repeal this tax. The bill fur the alteration of the Stamp Ditties bad opt yet passed, and it was doubtful whether it would paes—(hest)—but, supposing it did, he mush questioned whether it would destroy so much of the revenue es the right hon. granaries calculated, for he believed the inereate of taxation on the one side would go far to counterbalance the decrease on the other ' so that, taking all things into account,: the surplus in April might probably be, including the amount to be devoted to the reduction of Ike debt, not less than 1,000,0001. But t.ad they no encouregemein for indulging in the hope of some dimi nution of the public expenditure ? A great authority in that house and out of it on such matters, (Mr. Wl' on) had told them in en article in the 11,ortomist of the 9:h of February, that there had been • considerable reduction effected In the petition expenditure, that reduction being the greatest is the navy, ordnance, and miscellaneous aer obia. In the navy alone that authority estimated the re flation at 820.0001, and in the ordnance at 1137,0061., mak -1,190,0001. in thee. two departments, acd the writer rhich • beer the evesemer. In his shareeter of wasemmer, the MOIR and his labourers might be equilly benefited bye reilislisit of the duty, bat, as mineuseees, they maid slue s=t benefited by the reduelka ditty en other daily me. Then cams the Indio* that if this reduction would be mats bwefslal to the farm= ise new semen whether it was net obvious that a reduertim d dui' en articles which bore a higher duty would MI orerseer bestial to them as cowmen. Of Gone therepvest bosses benefit to the farmers If there was as increeesdifiesemffelf their prodoee, but If, as had been shown, there weld be no coesidtrable increase of demand for melt if the duty wee taken off, of course this benefit could be but trifling. A most experiesoed witness Were the committee of the House of Lords, whom he had mentioned, was of opieima that has. would not be soy greet drat on consumption U the mit duty was taken of. He was so distinctly. He was asked also whether by the repeal of the duty there would net be a great lost of WI without any compensatory benefit to the costumer, and he said " that was his de sided opinion." The hen gentleman bad referred to the question of steeping barley, In order to malt it, but he was mistaken to supposing that the farmer was not allowed to do so, only it was not to be done in such a manner as to enable him to escape the payment of the duty on malt. Mr. Barclay was also of rpielon that there wet no material interference in the production by the supervision of the lixeire. If he (the Chancellor of the Brebequer) had shown that no great benefit would be derived by any interest by the repeal of this t.x, and that while many would suffer the benefl:, if eny,would be at best, but para.' and equivocal, was it safe to risk 6 millions of revenue ? lie must repeat that it wee not a mere bug-hear to talk of the national faith and the necrssil of keeping up our establishments. It would not bo an easy matter to lay on a new tax, and it not, the re must be a rcuntrion of our ettablisbuieirs, for one of these results must *CCU if this tax was needed. It was a pro ductive tax, one which was paid by the consumer, was col lected ehe.:ply, and with as little inc,avenirnee to the trade as was en.tisttnt with a due regard for the revenue, and, therefore, as a great tit& would be incurred, and there loss of - while the as ~ smudge, _ _ey lo g - - fur taking this bill, but that he did hope tee petered with it added, !het from the changes whe . lad . _an effected in would be great ding- rof • large .___ revenue, able, before the sad of the session. those departments, the »dueler.' would be considerably hem fit would be alight and partial, he called on the bouts MALT-TAX BILL. greater In the current year. (Hear.) Well, he theutht he to resist the motion of the hon. gentleman. (Hear. hear.) Ile. CAYLEY in moving for leave to bring toe bill for the might be quite Bee in e etiolating that there would be 3 clear Mr. HENRY DRUMMOND referred, ironically, to eke repeal of the melt-tax, said he did a h entirely on his surplus in Hte prelate yew, over and above that already dhe praises which a whig Chaccellor of the Exchequer had own responsibility, without any promise of support from any posed of by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, of 600,0001, lavished upon taxation maehieminvented by eery ministers. quake oldie house; and in no wet whatever, therefore, could —(hear)—and it the harmed consemptioe of milt in- He prowl sed, if this tax were teke.a off, to support any other ' itbe emaidered a party motion. He was instigated by no other creased the hop duty three-fold—which it was not nerve». tax which ministers might put on, and he begged them to motive than that of a conscientious conviction that, under able to supper e—he thomid hays 600,3C01. from threesome. begin by taxing the Manchester manufacturer'. Votes ox the premise demand state of agriculture, and under the He caudated also that there would be 300,0001. eaves this question would be a test of the honesty with which our novel circumstances in which the agricultural interest in beyond the estimate of the Chem:tell» of the Exchequer on recent commercial talky bad been supported. He ed this country was placed by their late commercial changes, corn ; for ha saw no reason to sigmas that the imports that this repeal ought not te be maidered as any boon to ' there was no other measure next to a return to the old eye- would fall off to the extent tee right honourable gentle. the landlords, but that it was of essential importance to the tees protectien that could in any way antaihnts to the well- man supposed. They might obtain another 100,0091. by labouring claw», who, und :r the altered circumstances of Ming of the agriculturists of this country tbaa that which was the abilition of the African tqesdron. Altogether this would the country, ought to b: ahle to bye upon fen. a week es well contained is the bill for which be now claimed the support make about 3,310,1001. which, deducted from the as they used to be able to live mom 10". He declared that of the home. The complaint was, that taxation was im- 4,612,0001 the melt-tax produced, would leave a defeieney the reason why puree did not drink so much hear as they posed on th is article of produce In • lariat degree only t•f 1,302,0001.. for whiskies the ensuing year he thought did was, because the beer usually sold was muddy, delete d than on my other branch of British industry. He it would not bed Moult to provide. But kesaw in a news- ens, and latexiesting ; and he enumerated a list of disgust• lad authorities to quote on the subject, the fit of paper the other day, supposed to be in the interest of the leg and unwholes me articles which, in the ceneuion of an whom was the right boo. gaidenna the mem ber for Ripon, government, that the present quieter', revenue was a tmeted eminent het penitent brewer, were admitted to he nut into who, in the year 1539, on the debate on the motion of the to exceed the corresponding quarter of last year by 800,0001 ordinary beer. He contended with an earnest and eloquent hos. gentleman the member for Wolverhampton, said that or 400,000 e, god that the intro st. in toe »sung quarter was peroration in praise of " good " beer, which he declared Le he was »neat-edit - at if they repealed the corn-laws the expected to be se ll greater ; supposing Me teensy. to eon - read awe» administered to everybody, and always would malets x would not survive Let • smile year. (Hear, hear.) tines through the year, emitting any altliti en to the corn administer. the same right Lon. gentleman continued by asking why duty beyond the Chseeellor of the Exchequer's calculation, Mr. BASS, as m'y mate of the public brewers of this should the landlords be precluded from arowiug beetroot, Were would be rot more than about 103,0001. deficiency, 'finny, country, said it w :yid be to their interest to have the toe sugar, and tohl.eo ? (Cheers) The hen. member also In the name of the lowa body of Producers in the doubled; but he should counsel the r. pe ti of the duty, quoted from the touch of Mr. Celtic'', and then said that he country—ice the name of the largest body of consumers which, he thought, could be got rid of without impairing was straid it wee almost indecorous to gore in the matey—be ateurei them to redress the crying o vat the public credit. We bed a large surplus of inn ea, and hie next authority, as he monist he obliged to allude which this tax indictee. Let them be eat, awl 'ear not. economy would make it tauter. He believee that the te te the name of fin eminent sea who, by the (Hear, hear.) He =teed for leave to thing in a bill to re peal would increate the prim of barley by at east 4. a inscrutable Mates of Praideme, was lately severed from peal the malt ma. quarter, which (teatime the produce at five quarters to an them. In answer to the unman. for Wolverhampton, he Me. CHRIS ()PURR seconded the motion, stating that acre) would give • profit of It. an are upon ail land und.r stated that U the corn laws were posed, he would expect to this would he tee first time of his vain:, aghast the malt barley cultieetiun. Hereby, great assistance weed he given be able to grow his own tobeceo aid to make his own malt. In other days he had opposed the aboletine, from to the farmer; sod he believed that if labourers and meets There was mother strong objection te the pns.nt system, financial reasons, but now that protection Wee abolished, and mid set tool beer, they would Meet was, that as long as it was continued it that seeernment had refused to ahem the agricultural Skein this motion be rejected, he should lay before tae would be impossible for the mattes in this reentry leered , from burdens etpeeively and eaciudvely pr. tenet nouse a proposition for reducing the malt tea by outetudf. to carry on their teat* according to scientific prieciples. upon it, lie conceived the: he had • right to demand, and to Mr. M. 01BeON admitted that the re wet much force In ' With /egad to this process of usaltinp, it might be known ask free trade members to support him in demanding a te. the genere opiuion matinee the effects of this tax, and of generally to the holm that the proem of malting was to carry mail oe this nenosions duty. fades duties *morally, but could not, attar the disposition of en one of the operetta.* se mews by melee! meant. h The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER felt great our mama Masse had been *greed upon, unsettle the was • meet delimit sad meat skilful operatics. It was most reluctance at having to damme the tee:l'A pictures of Characiar of the Ex thethotrel arrangement he taking away important that tbe Remit/Mien thould be taken at the proper general happistate which Hr. Cagle] hid pr shed should reveals, at the rate of 6,000,0001. a year. Bead and tee e. moment. Ile wanted to know why tee farmer or the melester arise from the repeat of the tee. The Men et Commons siml reduction in our expenditure would enable le to give up should be deffereutly dealt with teem any otberkind et manu• had three times vend is favour of &bambini; or reducing this tax, bat the house had chosen to affirm the prineip:e of lecturer. 'ifle labourers of this ecu ail were debarred from the duty, and bad as often, upon easideration, rehini,d profuse outlay and inearteus woe aseiblithmenes. Betide., a wholesome natured bem r. ge he the weight of taxation. If that vote, • feet which he adduced as a reason tie heetaties tae would rasher repeal too taxes on keowlcdge than the the duty were taken oh mel . , the farmer, instead of feeding on the lore of members who might now be dis p osed to ger taxes oa drink; and as he inteedeil again to apply for the his cattle on oil e.ke, would use malt very extensively. port toe abelitien. ( !Isar. hear.) Toe repeal of t • former repeal, be should, on the present (canon, for the Prom this valusele toed fee his cattle the law of this country tax would moreover uccasien • less to the re venue . f sake of oreinary coteisteray, vote against the latter. debarred him. In forme times, whin the duty was low, between 4,00)900/. sed 5,000,(001. The bugbear ot Mr. SPOONER (meted the Chaseellor ot the EU:ba ther* used t be • enalehouse aturhed to to ry farmhouse; national faith and natitnal establittmente hid been t nerd quires statistics, which beergued were inconclusive. They &edit this tea were repealeathete would again te a malt-huuse of, but it was very math to be dmueetel whether the eti flew ia (las Mee of his favourite free-trade argunisoes. to every farmhouse. Tem tax bed been embed a tax sober and refi:ctiee member, of the House of Canteens, would As regarded any growing distaste for beer, be utterly denied upon the vomiter. If it was a tax upon the consumer, and consi ler these things as men bugbean. His own ',Lenience it, the fan being that, thanks to cur patent eystem, the if all taxes of this kind were • tax upon the comelier, how convinced him that the ouggestioes made by the hat, in she farmer could not effort to pay the hemmer a rate of wates did it happen that the rates rcnaceulacturers objected to the *chid net produce he -UI part of the real c Qum that which would enable him to but her. He warmly supported duty ofet per »amp= calico? This wee • tax of ant.per cent. km. teem:emu hal calculated elan • tat, able aid muse the metier, strengly condemning excise duties, except when u; on the price of the raw material. His right bias. friend oat so he was, let him try and meiete:te the publics feet:, let abs .luteit neee. eery, and repeashiug the free-tracers with might say that taxes were required and must be pail; but him seemed, if he couleeis persuading the house to adopt haying the tern away nice millions of customs, a potion ni this tax was oppressive ante moue, because it was unequal. his piano, but, first of all, let hiss have his suietitute whtele would hare enahl el the Chancellor of the Embalm r The hon. to tuber rood as extract from a pamphlet ready prep:red before he incurred the risk of sails to give up thee obnoxious duty. written, as he described, by a most intelligent farmer, repealing se large as Pelt of taxation m that Mr. L. HET WORTH opposed the seem. illustrative of the hardship resulticg from the tax feraiated by the inmeition of tee malt duty. (Hear.) Mr. PACKE, tboegh a warm advocate for a return t on the waking eaves of the community. Some New, the hon. Ruthenia said that the falling off in the petterceia, should oppose this motion, which he conceived to persons red that the tax was paid by tes eeneenter. consumption was owing to the duty. It was true that tee he a procaceng in the along direction. Ile did not believe Who was the cement'? Not the rick man, who drank tense -pion, U you took an sumo of 10 years, was Its, that the repeal et the seals tax would benefit the Ee e lith wine, but the labourer. The enenseas amount of this ter now than then. If ton took the 13 years from 1821 to farmer. was entirely paid by person who eel lees income than 1.101. IbBl (and • great mass of Wonsan in would be fou-,1 on Mr. L. HODGES, thoneh in another state of our finances a year. They did sot pay the Deane tax, but they were this subj• ct .n the paecre laid befe re the Homo of Lords on he late voted 14): the repeal, could not, under errant ca t psylas taxes ten times the amouet. At a temperance meet the tale el bar), weerits the coneuntetion now w: s »restarts, • uppert n nati ea whale ten ..d to create a de -1 ill a pates glibly held rArl on the. a:vintages of detekine 26,800,000 Latham It wee in 1831, 31 1.)0,le el, 111.4 is 1841, drietcy scaly to be eon li.d by • treat iceman in the p r of water; but some glibly people, who happened to •ea d 31,400,000. The Min. gentleman thought teat stub of this p tty rasc al Tab woad bra czrtu.n I.,jury to termer, of the waling, domered to the emendate to which Le came. deerene of comae» iei was owing to the uerearieted ad England, h Weed is Mu hope ot teens ham an um::-sin and, en being raked why, one of them said, "My friend miss: sof c•rn, but so far from test beag the ease in the : 3 drank water, ate I drink ale ; he is dead ad lam hers." last three years, there bee been a erase inehase of co, - Mr. :AA' ME said that it was tall to talk of free It might not be bssefical to indulge is excess in these lit gumption is that time. la 1847 :he consumption wes trade in a enet.try where such an arbitrary sod • •xstious 1 i 0 enmi ties mere? exciturel iaterse ues* xisted. li the e or. t 'turn bat malt liquor was the peculiar beverage of this e.t.a- 30,200,000 bushels ; in 1843 , 31,e00,031, 0 00,0x'0ha 0 ; 61.4 try. The boa. gentleman then reed several statenteetc of the 31.1G0, 40 bushels; lead, thereto», al:Lough there h d for the agrieslest d , *Mee under use Le el amount el the um at differed periods from the time it w a bees • falling off in the ten years white had jug. err ettnat system, met beleg op p ressed h - red h treeit As bet late on in 1697, and refereed to various !meteorite% ended eemp .reet with the preceding tee years; ya, during to t' -e habit of leer drinking goiug out, that wos all non to show the: the duty oa malt was r. most cruel exiction , the period of th e ucrestekted stasis:ion of Corn there heal att-e. Ladies iiivarisisiy tuek beer, tither with a seetlicel and aserions drawback on the social c extorts of the put le. b er. e. 'toady metes,., and this was en rawer to the the e. as me or without ate, a: their substantial mid day meal. Whilst upon this subject, he eight eel. in refer-nee to tion that this cense had eon'ributed to the reduction of am- while the 11bl-elveand awl/wine tee. neuldhe too glad of theta lanes of duties of excise, th at he did cot see how we suniption. The hon. gentleman said truly that there were it, end ought to b .ale to have ie Ha semale support the could ooesibly continue such • 'lean of taxation, under the other articles ef limed censumptiosi which had invested in lemon. seer commercial code. lie hoped his noble freed at the greater proportion to beet, sed he attiibuted it he the duty Mr. WILSON admitted that all taxes which diminish, heed of the gee »mete wocel take into consideration, low, on malt. He (the Chan eller of the Exclateeet)Ogniil that temetimp'i s acne injuriously to the protegee. end the malt Rader theempeteion ot faience', teem excise taxes lasened the consumption of tbose articles had increased, end that ef tax to a Certain cannot cam a under this des:airier.; bat he industry. He did not sea hew native industry could bor bed diminished, in proportion to the populatier, , lest conteeded teat no solid relief would be gives by the repeal, be named on under the peewee of taxation which that wag owing to the change ie the habits see fates ot the inasmuch re if the intro eel demand which was I ich..d to met it at every step. The teams in the peal of people ; end perhaps the hon. gentletith might ell to mind were me eloced, that increased demo d mould not le beer mad by teenaged inmate bad been athompari. dby that in Lis own family, and among his donates e• :. met in England, and an increased importation of Muir% • reduction in the price of spirie, ethic" out ot the oppo- mate, there hal ban a decrease in the use cf barley would 111.3 take place. The principle now ' site canoe, so that the present state of things was, that in- beer, anti increase in the consumpien of tea and Maths I km eud would, he lei 1, hinder. the rape.' tete:nth:ea by spirituous liquors could he obtained for half cafe*, end in many families an 'Lawson, of tea ef ell eustems whatever. (Ttis observation was receivel the money for which it woo °Maimede in beer. (Hear, was substituted for malt limier. It was .really true that wi th earth:ant protectionist charism) The o! ject of bear.) A farmer dining lately at a market table complained labourers and others ot the working classes drank more tea teneurable members °Main ',lntel b e to untex a ulen's tithe beer, and asked the landlord why he did not get and km beer. People c o uld nut drink both in the same in- beer and to tax his bread. He next arged thet the snit better, "these that the farmers would net grudge • good creased meantime and it they drank that which was more tax, though heavy, was not u's:airly so. and that the repo-- rens is they wire furnished with • Fre , 4 article. The land- beneficial to their health and mambo, it was nut to be re. sereatioa that it was higher than other sinear taxes was um Iced answered that it would net Bait ni: purpose to increase gutted that there was an increase of the one and a decrease :minded. The ben te could pot be charged with iediffere cs the sonsumptioa of beer, as he bed a such higher profit on of the other, although there might he a loss to the revenue. to the condition of the corsumer, as w_s shown by the large gin. (Hese, beer.) If they feared repeal teey might at By referring to a table which would bes found in the Blue aratuet •t t. see it had remitted, and by the williagnees least reduce the duty, sad the success of smiler experiments Bel lt to which he had aeultd, the Con, gentlemea weld tee or it, meaner» to submit to • property tax in order to carte to tea and coffee, ought to /towage them to du to. Tee to what extent this relative elecreate and iner,use went. By out 'ltch relszetioas. And it woe the en yof (eery member consumption of to had increased 300 per ceut.. and of comparing 1839 with 1840 it would be found that there had of that tease to consider himself cm:telly bowie with the coffee 800 per cent., sines the redaction of the duty. been • falling off in the consumption of malt of about one gum regent tope:wreathe credit of tea country, and to ate A similar increase had taken plea in the consumption of million of bushels, the quantity cuncemee in 1339 stain Non Mier foe the reckless sacrifice of an enormcus spirits in Ireland, in mormance of a eseuetion of duty— being 39,930,000 bushels, and in 1819, 38,930,000 bushels. * mount of income like that now proposed to be yielded up. the increase in 4 years bong about 400 per cent. But but the consumption of tea had increased from 35 nelliocs of It was • quotient of the maintenance of publie honcur, and even there a r.ptal of the malt tax would be a relief, as the pounds to 60 millions ; of coffee, from 26 million of pounds up n them grounds he opposed the motion. welt, flavour, so mneh prized is whiskey, was given by to 34 ; and of cocoa, hem 1,600 000 to 3,200,000, Mr. DISRAELI s:.id he could not cote idee a proposition a Mature of malt with the raw corn. Anciently there was or about double. The consumptien of spirits too, whether for the repeal of the malt tax, without at the some time tak a large consumption of beer in Scotland, but the imposition home, foreign, or colonial, had fallen off ing into etnaideration the condition of the agricultural of the malt tax, subsequent to the treaty of the onion, made the rate of On, million of gallons by comparison Claelle, inasmuch as that barley we s one of the pencil: it the people turn their attention to distillation; and whiskey, of those two years amounting in 18.39 to 29 millions, and in ankles of t tear produce. (Hear, hear.) He did not sup a much more delete/tens tlaitl, had been the national 1849 to 28 millions, The consumption of wine had els s rote that any person present would deny that the condition b ge ever eines. So unpopular had been the malt tax fallen off; it being 7 millions of gallons ill 1839 and 6,247000 of the agricultural clean generally in the emery woes at in Scotland, that government did not dare to levy it on its gallons In 1849. The result had been that the consumption the present moment one of great depression. (lies, hear.) fleet imposition, and subsequently, eeriest riots attended of all intoxicating liquors had fallen off for the last teu ) ears, Geutlentes opposite, he was sure, would sheet that that the first attempt, at a levy. In consequence of the malt duty and the use of those liquids which were not ef deprestion was not only great hut unexpected ; but on that the consumption of beer in Ireland had decreased 700 per eating nature had inereasseevery considerably—a resultwbich (them opposition) side of the house they were preps:- e l tar the ant., a proportionate increase having token place in the could not be moldered as anything but most satiasetory, times of • legiestien en wheel the no jertty had decided. consumption of whiskey. Hamlett' should look to this, and inasmuch as it had contributed to the benefit of the (Opposition chem.) But the clieerenee Wee, that while see whether in maintaining the malt tax they were peelers , working chases by the suhstitution for the use of liquors both sides of the house agreed as to the depression lag the morale of the people. (Hear, hear.) Scotland used which tended to the deterioration of their health and moods, it was only on the government side that it was acknow- Ms whiskey than Deland, and England least of all. In of those litluiels which had an exactly opposite effect:This was ledged to be unexpectee. (Hear, hear.) Under these dr- Seat/and the duty wee 3a. Bd. the gallon; in Ragland, a convincing proof that the result woo not owing to the cunistances, he thought he had • right to expect—indeed he 7e. 101. ; and in Ireland, 2a. 6d. ; and in that tariff might amount of the duty, for the hon. gentleman was mistaken was surprised that se few members of the gevernmeut had be found the cause of the comparative consumption of the in supposing that it was anything like so high u that on tea, spoken on the question—that they would favour the house three countries. (Hear, hear.) The Commissioners of Ex- or even foreign wine, the duty on both of which he sail was with a clear and succinct view of what they thought would elm had already recommended the reduction of the duty lower than that on malt. It was impossible to supra that ha the future condition of the agriculture of the country. casktalf, and calculated that the increase of consumption the duty had prolued the effect of decreeing the coesuctee (Opposition cheers.) They (the opposition) knew that great would make up the deficiency. The house had no idea of tioe, because the consumption of those articles which had distress prevailed, and they had attempts 1 • remedy, but the what could be made out of an acre of barley. Five qunrten of been substituted, and which paid a higher rate of duty, had government hal at first denied it, but early in the present barley was the usual peoduceof one sae, and they would pro- increased. The hon. gentleman said that if the duty un session had been obliged to admit it, at the some time duce 601 gallons of ale worth 601. 10s. (Hear.) The cost of malt was taken off it would ensure an unlimited extent of expressing • confident hope that it would be trent lent in that quantity untaxed would be 101.145. (there hear.) The consumption. If, as the hon. gentleman raid, there had been its duration. (Hear, hear.) Early in the session the same difference was the amount of tax paid by the laborer for a large increase in the consumption of other articles on which minister who addressed the house tit great length in the his second necesoary of life. (Hess, hear.) Oat of the same the duty had been lowered with regard to malt, they early part of the evening had acknowledged his surprise at acre of bailey the landlord got 25'., the tenant perhaps bad a better criterion by which to judge, because they knew the amount of agritultural distrait, but it was subsequently lee., while the rest all went in tax and manufacture. (Hear, what had been tee result from the reduction of duty in the averted by . him that prices would soon rally and bear.) He anticipated the best consequences from a repeal lest 36 years, during which they had been relieved that the crisis was passing away. An the, month of this tax. There would be ten million quarter, more foe:many yam of the war malt duty and the beer had now elapsed, they were approachieg the end of the sea- barley used, and of these eight millions would be grown in duty. It had been stated before the committee of the ring , and every one mutt acknowledge that the distress re this country. That would take so much wheat out of tbe House of Leeds on the burdens on land that, taking maser', while its serenity was increased. Very early in market, our weak point as regarded foreign competition. the war malt duty nod the beer duty together, the total the alien he had proposed a remedial measure, many Such was our su p e riority i n b ar l e y growing, and such payable on malt liquor was 7.15. 2d. on strong beer, and thought that it would not have had that result, but a greet the risk of lose by detazioration from shipment, that Cl.. 10d. on weak beer. The beer duty having been re- party had suppertedi it, and nithough not stle+ sifel, it wns the abolition of the core laws had not materially increased pealed, the only duty cxistiog being the malt duty of 21e, negatived by only • hue majority. (Year, heat) Was such our imports of that grain. Oa the other hand the increased there bad been a reduction of 50. i. on strong beer, and 401. a proposal ezt aaaa aut or uareasoneble ? Oa the contrtry, demand of 8,000,000 quarters, which he anticipated, would on weak beer. Yet there had been no material illerMISO in ell had ackn teledged its moderation, end even the ministers give such an impetus to the English grower, and would die• the consumption, nor was there likely to be any great In- themselves could only object to it as being too i;,s;,saiticant a place so much este:that the price of the three principal de- crease by the reduction to 21s. ; nor was this such a reduce matter for the purr)... intended. That proposal woes opposed a:reelects of grain would, "email to all reasonable calm- ton as was of any benefit either to the consumer or the by government, and was negatived by the lento s. latioo. rise to such • level as to render the greater part of producer. If reference was made to the evi- At a subsequent period, and from the g wrea the effect of the rep e at of th e corn laws nugatory. (Hear. demo of Mr. Barclay before the committee of the mint side ot the house, there came forth an hear.)To show the effect of the tax on barley he had esti- House of Lords it *Mild be fauna that it was his eminent other proposition for the relief of agricultural elites', "sated the diminished assumption of the year 1849 as cam- that although there might be a slight increase of consumption which wee also rejected. In the first instance a practical pared with the year 1700, and he found, taking the increase on the repeal of the duty, it would not amount to more then measure was proposed; in the second the house was totted in the population into aceosat, that it was no lea than 171 500 quarters, and that as to the pries that the quart of to impose a moderate flied duty on foreign cern. Both were millions of quartets. Now, supposing the consumption porter which was now sold for 311., would be reduce! rejected, while all the time the house was acknowledging were incased by 10 . 000 . 00 0 quarters In consequence of the only by one halfpenny. There could be uo better or the presence of agrieulturel distress, proeueed ncaiuly by the repeal of the malt duty, he would ask them to consider what more competent witness than this gentleman, one of »peel of the duties on foreign corr, (hear, hear.) Well, would be the benefit not only directly to the farmer but col- the largest brewers in Lon d on. genuoma n ( A ta ce r o c u s liv4 ) %o tie the distress was still existing while the tension was drawing laterally to the labourer, the abater, the cooper, the hoop- doctrine of the honourable . maker, the glass bottle maker, and cume- increase of consumption ought tohave followed the re • I u g e r t i e. a. maker, the sackt a close andacialter proposition was before the house, made in by • obi; member, and having a tendency to relic ye the rows other tes.les whom (*evicts would maenad, be brought of duty, and a decrease °wild to have taken place on she tresses et the agrioultural clews. lie ( r. Disraeli) could into requisition. There would be 220,000 Mee of Mete more reimposition of the duty. But how was the fast ? In Hug not consider that proposition on its merits Or demerits, required to make coke for drying the malt, met then they the duty per bushel was 4s. C 1.,. and the avenge coneump- without at the same time refining to the cleans on must not forget the hop grower. He believed there were time of two years was '26,600,000. In 1 , 418 it was redue d whose to hove ittiuence • and 43,00 u acres of land in the cultivation of hope ; but if the 2e. 6.1 , sod the consumption fell to 22,700,000. Iti ' lBl t 9 o , ater th rt e uues s i f t er s of calculated s ted h lo unourael member for malt deity were repealed it was not uarmonable to say that the duty was increased to 3s. 7.1., and th.; consumption in- Weeteury, he must take • genera view of the mode double that amount of land walla be required for the pus- created to 26,000,000 bushels. The hon. gentleman seemed he which the general taxation of the country was impaired. pee. (Heat, bear.) Bulbs knew els rieht hon, friend the to think it a monstrous proposition to say that the duty oa (laterally s,-lelking, there were them modes in which our Chancellor of the Exchequer would answer all these tame malt was mainly paid by the consumer of beer. The cone tuatirm was raised—by duties on imports , by a system of meets by the statement that he could not spas the mans i mitts, of the House of Lords cm the burdens en re a l p r o. in; .nd taxation , and by a system of local contritmelons. which the malt tax brought to the revenue. (Bear, hese, petty, hove referred to this Instance of the melt t -s, and bed With repeat to the first, they had, by their recent But If Users wee any ground fat that el jestion, which he come to the conclusion that the duly fell a* a general tax on tor, admitted everything that cam e ihto competition with =mates, duty free. (Opp:Plies cheers.) The as, directly or tatirectly, contributed by the land et ilaliedeettoes; sad the third was wholly raised from the dna and la adjuncts. (Pretecticnist cheers.) He asked the house meld that system go on much longer ? (Hear. ) He asked the house could it be mush longer endured? (Cheers.) He asked them whether they thought it would be long en the power of thou who contributed seek great ✓um so to contribute, and whether the new system lately Inaugurated, and which ineremeci the lnerthens while it diminished the means of meeting them, could much longer be submitted to? (Proteotioaist sheer. ) Ile maintained that such a state of affairs could no longer be endured and he said it with reference to the great depression and tuffer:ng of the agricultural classes. (Hear, hear ) This brought him to the point that the home must speedily decide upon tie mode fa whisk the revenue of the ecnintzy was for the future principally to be raised. Whatever the elate of the revenue was, the Ctar.eellor of the Exchequer was responsible for it—(hear, hear)—and be would impress on the house the dangerous fallacy of making the revenue the infallible and only index national prosperity. He did not think the public creditor was very secure if his only secutity depended on a reduction of ue to the amount of 4,000,0001. or 6,009,009.1. (Hear.) On every ground of policy he thought this motion deserving of support. It was said that this was not a party question. A truer statement was never mode, and no gen tleman could vote on this wagon without being pre. pared to vindicate the course he tenth. (Hear.) It they did rustics to the landed interest of the United Merlons, then the landed interest might take into consideration ghat degree of sacrifice it would make for the public good. (Hear, hear.) But when they put rued a coons which, according to their own confestton, was a grievous injury to that great lob rest, and, as was ad mitted, cloud greatsurpriae—when that great interest with which the welfare of millions wee connected was in a state of treat suffering, and when the government was adminb t. red by persons who confettee.l that they wadi offer and could offer no relief to a calamity, the extent of which could not be exaggerated, then they forced on the oppoeitioa m'asnree of relief which, if the g eat 'bowel a different disposition, they might not otherwise take into contideration. (Lieu, hear.) The condition of the agricultural class at the present time was nnexempled in the histoty of this country. In former period+ there was great distress, both agricultural and manufacturing, but never before had distress of such meg. nieude so long em.tinued—a erstreas which the ministers dep:ored, and admitted chile inability to relieve. (Hear, he-r.) Could the government he surprlsed, that whilst two members of their own par:y brought for ward motions segue stieg relief within the lee: six weeks, the opposition which ebs connected with that I . 3fferieg interest shout i support these propositions!? I: was now six months since the tut of distress had been se knowledgeet in the speech from the throne. That diserers, treat as it was then, read been aggravated within that petit. and what had the minister done to relieve it? (Hear, hear.) He wooled to know from the government what they would be eutheri'ed to say to their e-netry constituencies. He warted to knew whether he was to tell them that hr: Id.j+sty'a government con sidered cheepneee to be a cane—(hear, hear)—because if he was enabled to tell them t hat r 31,jest3'A goy. rnment, eon eiatently with the principles on which ft was founded, acknowledged that eheapriers wee the only object which a government of this country ought to attempt to realise. and that it the price of corn wee only 201. a quarter, or 2.. od. a bush..l, they could only r:cogr ise in that tact an additional evidence of national prosperity, their couseltuencie. would then be i.ble to comprehend te: et position, and their chae.ees of relief from the government which existed. (11' ar, bear Bat if he and his frierods toned themselves in this awkward position—that they seer • authorised to tell their conuituents that the government deplored their position, hat that they expected a return of higher and more remunerating price, under which circumstanees they would be enabled to bear almost the whole lecal tax Won of the country, the greater portion of the inland taxation, and would be able to endure, as they had endured, the unrestricted cempetleton of ankles of foreign agri..ultural produce—if be should tell them that dune were the opinion. of the government, but that the so. tenement bed not taken any !tip' to realise such result., then he could under m 3 them to sty that such a government sympathising with their sufferings, bat doicg nothing to nil. torus them, would meet with their indignant opposition. tar.) But it, on the cemetery, he was enabl-d to tell them that it was free trade government that was in power—a government which considered a Weraing that which they &played as en evil—that the goverement considered As lend and eta adjuncts should continue to bear the 100 el taxation, the treater pertiete of the inland tceetion, art be subject to the unrestricted competition of foreign apical taut produce, ani that they weld toke no stones to remedy the sufferings of the agriculturists by imdeavourirg to raise the prise of home-grown agricultural reroute, be mines they considered lowness 01 price to bs a sign and sauces tf prosperity, then ne could undentond them to lay, Do you, who're ix OppOli ism t) a free trail: government, who act upon distiaet principles and aim at di-tinct result-, adopt such me .r.s es mu offer to deprive such a goy. rn stunt of their power ? (Hear, hear.) Such if they b. men of honour and have mini um in thee:. opinion', must think it a benefit to agetrovrite one guff rings. The ea u:es of such men would b Ito aggravate thcir ufl r. bugs, cnd not prevent their recuertac,. They must dc so conscientiously, in carrying out their p..licy cud their am -12,"1er }bait Meeu ...stances tney "aw hems* them (Ally the eArecr of dearer, unless the government should he &spliced, of th ey were by ns 11V-1111 moguice. And were they to t. - I: rr.ca in much a positim, !lit: :hr in'ereetx of evry cf tt.e c;r- WLI:e ezry:-.3 iii J , arur ^aa h of yze►en sielered before the ire? and th a troey, rei•resentetive were n o t to oeesume to brine Leonel questione parliament whinh er.gaaed their attersinn ? I Hear.) 1 ;an kerns Was it rot their duty? were they not tape., d by ( lie too reel. ) Tattrino toe dire nece.siLy to rake every p •.esible m. one to premot :a el. w E . • . coecifterati, aof the h :use vol the country. the Lugo re• o of that gr ..t class with which they (:he jootectienbto weer immeii.tely connected, and to moll don-solve •of any nt en. I wee -high promised even the chance of a remedy ? (Clue es.) •• e Ile wns convinced if the ru•oion of the hon. ea ether for the Serail were setcceeeful that the effect would be 1,, bring the boom to ies untea. (:lear, bear). If the mama were carried it would no longer be possible fur al• ministration; to root who were lerapire- ell the advantages of a joeliey to wl.ich by their owe z....En; 4- none In that house they did not cc rocientl meiy adeere ; that it would tot be poet' le coy Luger the a neo. nistry sbouid exist which o elite! not only Renounce toe: it Was their object not cnly to perpetuate the eresent "tete of the aerie:atoned body, Out te increase the sufferings of that body, braises, they Pt e jllll , el In that "offering a great UR clonal bee:tilt. (Hear.) Int success of this :action would I compel the government to • _kin wle dos their ouroose, and strip from noon that conranlant veil wtieh had PO long clouded their inteutims. Ida therefore supported the me hoe, whine, PO for as tegument wee concerned, could nit be root by the other side • for, admit ting the pc inciphs which they hail adopted to be correct t`le w s their oatmeal c, (Cheer..) those emits:et men who lad given titter opinsona or. the repeal of the c'ern laws lad admitted that tits corn laws and the melt tax were indissolubly united. He °col I quo!? the meet eminent authority to that effect on both aides of the house. Wed, they had repealed to. corn law.; they bed believed on the aericulturists the it tax, which years ego they were toll weevil be the consequecce of re peelieo ere malt toe before the cern lows wire repealed. They had repealed the corn lave, the loco= 1 tax had been imposed, but the malt tax remained. The consequence of this sae that the agricultural Interest was in a state of unreemlected depression, and depression without hape--(hear, hear) — and he contended that it was worse than injustice that they should mill continue an impost the abolition of which under other circumstance', and at another time, they had dmithol would be the inevitable consequences of those changes and those inflictions which that interest now experienced and endured. (Cheers.) Lord J. ILUSSELL was glad to hear the hon. gentleman in one out of his speech declare that this wee not a party question, and that it was not as a party man that he was addressing the house ; though from the cheers which followed ammo of the hon. gentleman's sentences, ee should scarcely here expzeted uses statement. (Hear.) But he derived great consolation because he thought some of the hon. gentlemah's statements, if acted upon, would be extremely dangerous to the future fortunes co this country. ' The hen. gentleman, placing the land, as it were, apart from all the other it/tercets of the country—(" oh," and sheen)—declared that, if the land were properly and justly considered, that then the landed interest might see what merles it might think tit to make her the public good. (Hear.) Now, that was a vague aad ambiguous declaration. 'Supposing that the hon. gentleman succeeded in carrainet the repeal of the malt tax, which involved about 5,!-(19.0110/. of revenue, and that the member far Warwick. • shire also carried his proposition fcr repealing the other excise duties amounting to something like • 12,000,00f1. more, sod the natiouel faith was endangered, and the public credit shaker. to its hese, what consolation bad they 2 A d they hear the hon. gentleman say that they would replace those taxes by others, or put the public faith 1 on a sure fouudition 2 Not a ward of that. No, but that I the land wool,' then declare which seerifi3 it would be pre - pixel to make foe the public goad. What if it thought that • the public faith should not he kept? (Hear, hear.) s if they were to takt the view of the honourable gentleman fu regard to the maintenance of the public f lith. he coufessed he should see with much apprehension that declaration of the bon. Rewire:lan's. es that of the leader of a poet party especially, had he not corn other words from a noble lord, the confessed head of that party, that gave him come consoletiou. But ford Stanley had thought fit that his "oath:need. ' and thoeu of the party of which he was the head, should not be misunderstemel on Heim point, though they might well have been misunderstood from whet heel passed in that house. (Hear.) Lord Stanley said, "While some may vote hr the repeal of the malt tax, others with (goal disco it y might refuse to assent to a propoti lion they tit. ught doubtful in its results; while by reusing a large deficiency in the revenue it would erabarre es the crlmiain tration, and impede the adoption of measures calculated to be of real benefit to tho agricul urist " ; mot Lord Stanley added, " that if he were a member of the Ileum of Com mons he : hould be inclined to ceireide wieh the latter view, and not vote for the reduction of 4,1100,001 or 5,00:1 14(0 of taxation without secertaiaing, in the first pleura, how the di tieleuey might he mode good." (Hear, hear.) That wee the declaration of tho leader of the party opposite, sad it was estietkotory to Lim (Lord J. Russell) to hid that they did not coincide with those which had been expressed by the hon. gentleman. (Hear, hear.) It was ell vim. well to bay that it was the business of the Chancellor of the chequer to find the means of making good any defalcation tit t nerght rotor in the revenue._ 'That alit be a matter of lions didieUlty to the Chancellor of the :chequer. But eh so was another party to be coosOlered in this question— (hear, heer)—for when the Chancellor of the Exchequer had s fu n r rra t i t s e un c t u c e l tl b te y eh a tli e cul r t e y pe an a d l b o a , d . fwortheisceltahestadleisictosaution w lestato.t: ~ r lr fire t. ) • th.: I xpo:t• I an :nereaar of l ). Iv Lt.) it iin ? what :ogre c'3ht What 1: L in,:oF t let! that tex b of created—t here e ll nlwtPy as, ew h r ehg i efoonl w e r e lre, e: C ee "w e a nt th e who bwi e e l o P r 4 : 1; : s t : I" t di h eeud e rh E cna t ico 31111", t he r-7"-- ; e— a '4: l2 ‘ ;: t tj' 4 4 : • placed, but the difficulty of the country itself in regard i. u ,"": means by which it wan proposed to supply the dotal.% • e - n ," he asked the house not to vete that defaced... l : 6 47; first clearly ascertaining that there were taxa lure to the country, and lees burdensome to the enje: it:; tax which might bo suletiteted le its stead. ( \ - 1 ,7,7 ' hear ) 11. did tot with, at that to haute to enter li t , 1 1'. whole qaerion of the malt tax, in reaps@ to which th - be e -- " e memlyr for the Ntrth Reding had 'islet so aeon D t lore; ben there was one thing he had remark.i to that tax, that as at present char e ed, ',eking the into account as it formerly existed, it %QS now ihrie.f"l rth . — of a century since it had beet so little e hotiitnee-7,, was now. It was about the year 1774 ;h e t a m et authority on such subjects, Adam Smith, said it y tax of 2 , 3 e. or Ws. a quarter on male instead of a tax ca x is and on boor, you would collect it mote easily, a:A it core ; vines* had since Len pursued. The right !y e as. DAM tn E ho ft et s h b .n e q i 'tat t o uYdo repealed°:Ca mbridge,nt the n tt wh he en aPI beer; e a a he n.,it i S et .6phen Rat, 11)1 in 1770 had been foUoerod, and they wire bearing te n . . with respect to malt which for three•queren of a .teettie had beet. paid by melt and beer. But passing fern This mediate question of t enet tax, he ctit.4 not tv...!..•' some notice of the gop we ith tee tlem en opposite had laid down Now, one of his re WIN that the distress su ff ered by the nericulturai ire , t 1 the present year woe an event totalljuneepeite i l ' • who eat on the ministerial beaches, and tket it ve , , In them to find that such distre.s eisted. ll.• Russell) nevi: could have expected that the • • the state of protective duties to fr. e teee e „.. free trade to be the most ma/Liable gene;.,'. : / , tcctiver duties the most lath:reales ev.l—he tee. c ,• have expected thot such a tel.:sit:en cete.l witheut transitory suffering. (llcor, h. se ) lf • e.. 6 one of thoee who ever expected that these sell. those evils could altogether let ave . :Jed. Then the boa. get. bailee asked, with ;r at se, triumph, aid they (the government) cornier he a benefit cr an evil—whether they th eels :t tags that pretes should roe from th it pr ,ent it in 5011 1 (Rear, hear.) Be had anent: on former otecasior_e, and the answer wee !:tr.: were discussing the question with present state of the serieul.ure.l ..•ti they were dimusaing the state of a matter of specul -lion, he should rev, ene•el • cireumstaaces under which you are ;, orotectien or free trade—consider ail the • :mee t( you find teat in countries living to e'er some having h'gh protective duties, otters he duties, that there is a very I,w p-ice of -• in all, you may conclude that the • unusual circumstances, and that the e• cannot be taken as a wale fee But that was merely a cp. culiv.:•.rt as to c not ivy guide to the legisletitei e• the house ehoeld propose. Al. t . -styn! , l it most positiv.ly—ihat w. re prices 12'4: sink under their present level - , cr, c*.r , rite above it, they wo. ld not 'peek. by toe, , psrlismeee, to tri ate urtifleit.l or cee ..f • 'tit,' (Cheers.) Thu was a pls., pmocsi , .•on Whether gentlemen eons:e'er pr • , :nt tire to the prodtreers, err geeeraity that pr:ntiple of legislaticet wa peri.e• by which they meant to abide. those price rerceieed at th-ir prc lower, the gov,e:.ment weuld n t the price of their too I to the people cf That was hie answer to the Lou. ger tic r. The taxes nadir discussion wire to bectfit of the state ; taxes who'. to pay the interest of Its very in former years, and for te. tot. the housc tleought is necessary to ',crep up t there ware other taxes to wiry art . which went into the exchequer, but a or. ,t went into the pockets of particular Lie se; . teresb, which were a v cry great but no 6:merit whatever to tn, ex. he, pre the interest of the cent, ace acy ,f t, (Rear, beer.) Those texts they war .1 r ., ' taro; and by ditrainishieg throe tie a tLy increased mesas of pro.perity to t,.0 c to the peep!. bitter to bear taxes that were ol easy. The tax on sager was an ins •ar:.e. notion of that duty has: rest been wry c• loolcieg at the essolvit coueunse', which v sae tors in 1843, z.nd teleieg tee sans gum:4 ty year, the ducieutiou in the cost t., t 12,, than five of money, Mier, eel-vino we. h l.ai than tire tat:,: ' e. ci the I urtlets cn toe pe. , fle nv • ar.ourn. (Rear, he.‘r.) V. th vtaiti:•rs nra the wer, sw:.r aced other articles of cceeph:y than they cuul.! before, dye- 11:1 auming :cite able articb s, and 111 W cr b.., :ly • .r (Chet( t Fc .^.t tributiag w :he mtane been Eta tb4t day iu to:w:thstanding ell b.'eu 7111411 to 313118 dulk 3 that under that Led bad lacy:re I, and of r.tenua Iv.- one of tncr,:s • 4 d .!:. hens.) Anither w.va uf thq wa 11! t!le T. tur.l , ) T.. ttc h.T h gr: • r r.:tm a tr.e....tut:cti. the suit ,r c. the r hich c. •rinuted to the (ac:., I, (11c.r, h :r.) Let Lo or., tell him to 17 Wire it te. S. c0,..1t1 tic I.:t hl,tn! Cr I.r tett. r'..lg. Oleo? bar •n:., 1.:• r.prrtented - he lan•lcd i :-rt t of y, ar:, it htd. u in; whicit it Lelia ern:l r, cov,r. . (Hero, hear.) Wl•h the i••eres , e tar wee, the owr • in nod , c..uplett eszhtnit. ta , ir preduee tor a much form( r.y did, (•• No," and It ay, tvident hum the returns. Let t.: y rent ot land e nd the r, tutn t tax for 1775, 17N), and 151.1, and say, d h rent a la-4 and the returns received tr.r. ' iner,ated in the curse of that .lute. n il ha 1 beta one of the main c .uses cr,tise of inenufacd.owe, and th by those vrgage I in the trade hear, he. - . 1..) The hen. gtudetut of the give rr meet en !hi, .1 let t ,icier Let they were .11y ,t::•.oned trade. and that othot hid c. .t trines with r4:nri t t :he dune! , •o. Let trade. The gevernment 1 entered luta ar i tament urn t' taincd that, w hs'ever icrn tits 'Melt M c:.•us , d t' t' by so great a transitient in our loss would be more thaa rus. • would be more than of the countr. thtir food at the rhea; t• cured, who were , r.A' lel •' industry with foreign rsti •ns, eon for an int:ream ot tint in.••l , He should hold Ott: toe pdiey which was founder', i.ise on the notion of cep train! toterests of the coon' , y, a! 1 . I .c loterest was to look tor a tr,tar welfare, and a separice that its ise,!aro was bound tip ss::• interests of the country—lieu. of all the great interests ot which the government had COn.n . . , etilturalists would dn.t their best: r !A , e^11114..111 and uuivetsal interest, t o thcae vrinciples, therefore, h salted connect to the motion now htn. man said that th.y alt,-ether t t gentler refused relief. Why, at rretent were nearer 23 than'(` milhoto—n t h,r.ce on the consumers, but, according to the 41 foreign: is. Nrhat did he ...ta u. income tax, and the local toe ttim. Tr letusti . , ~r r„ i portion was in feet chtrged up 3n tie e 3, tartseturieg interests of the country, the nothing late so gred: at that which te •• duties. (Hear, heir.) lie hoped that as it heti hithettl dune, maintain the sp... :.L policy on which the governmm , late years,—that they would : c.u.. the national erelit by tatettg oil to nearly live millions of tsx,:•,—Cizt tiny reject the wise advice of Utti Scan'. y, • that were he now a member of that h ' with the g,wernment on that occasion : '' the crelit of the country, they would per,e‘, 3, which was a wise one fur all the intent: , , (Chem.) Er. CAVLEY, in reply, said he hod not the question on grounds of protection ; he I:3 for agriculture more thall strict juttiee. The r. compared this year with 1919 and 13:11, years of great adversity. Let him three years since the establishment of Ca: p:oicy with the three years b3reee, gr..: find the balance on the other side. It ••3s t,,, increased sitter 1775 sad 1790—not in c s, , higher price of produce, but of the r capital invested. As to the revenue, t,io. I. ing the publie credit was to consider the •t,, et taz-payen. (Hear, hear.) His propetit'.co the springs of induvtry. 113 sought et muter of a tax or 100 per cent. in th., and which was aikuslly .101 per env. :to. This woe a wheat and an oat question, 1.1 us an English questioi., ata there wit ti.M. country, front John-O'Hont's 1 , ,,,u5e ti 1 which w. old not feel the hot, ii: of the tqt: tax. But then it was not convenic , t present. The screw oust nor bo applied. (1 !An3 I. :u •