The Express. — London, England, 1850-03-23 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—FarDaT, liAlcs 22. The house met at Ave .'desk. Lord LAMODAL3 eat it speaket. PUBLIC BUSINIMS. WATERFORD. As RAILWAY COMPANY. CASH Oir Ma. Hunt. Oa the sutra et Lea Bionoien, Mr. Nee woe salted le the bee, sad, to tegaillealo l Maid that Mr. IMAM. Iced Cimeliewee lecher, ball mi. , sassed that the flemesets MI6 he had so ga_ Me eon. miseteaus were masa alba fleinmeate bob s Perna TIM Mee, peoelflel sa nambeibm tibey MIMI be Ism& le he assents mama Or deemenie to tbe Private Bilbellen Tis• geomegabg warkthatif the espies ehmiel be bead ▪ es senee they Maki be male asearate. Mr. Stable, the stabler a Lord Ceartowa, re being ealled. Mad that he hoe mid the espies should he adialteed pre. 'Med is tiamineden they Mead he Mead to be tree lb be should them It dry were ass. He 12 61 1:1 rembel the • Weed, esesanientia the *splay el the Widerbed. Woman, Whale*, and Dahlia Railway Oempsay, Wee this called, and examined by Rail thralls as soothe ratans wash had bra made by the compsay in Medium te the Mime of the hem. TM Maims wen this ordered a withdraw. RXPOISMON OF INDUSTRY IN 1861. Lad BROUGHAM, having Moody I N • esWeif the emenbelen es the ealgest of the proposed exposidea of iadastey, mow wished a pt a espy of say report madebe the amminden se the et Star. He we'll aim that mares ram to ni B. tertras einestioes to the is which hod bra selseted Ike the exiallatier—me ga i Hyde-perk. He folly speed with his Mlle the I'll of Coeliac, that Vistoria-Fark would ma be a suitable place; bat he was at a lees es sem sews what objerioas amid be arts to the Ressat'e. park, whisk sem he enilkisaly spelose, although it was net so 'main bemuse it wee said tkat ray a small space I. Hydrpark weld be appropriated ter the permed . He mast repeat that he eansidered it a my great hmislip as the shopkeeper', meerschaum, sad working elms% that the nosey requited for the pupa *bead be nisei by voluntary eoeuebetter. Hs met my, if tin ajeet were it sash per sadonal Mmortems as it was repterated to be, are oreing a urn it all dime, whether high or kw, whither whig or top Maher preeselisaists, as meliorated by his more Med floneley) bided him, or free trader, as represented by the bib maple swats (the Marquis of Luedenr ja• why should mot the pais pay forty er Any thseat =t i t (Chem) He knew may taresma sad shop who wen sabowiaag their mazy sad patine their sum on ormitten, whoa free' abaft inhemedan whisk he had reesemd frees them, he was essabisd a eases that they did it mar a species of, he could ass say samplers etearieriag time very satiable and sanative qualities Wog; whisk time manakin' proceeded, bat the dares vies :ewe, the gentle persuasive maser, of =stamen. He ham aces who bad subscribed 1001., sad be seM ho mar atol bap it, he did not do it willingly, and be woold new pm MOL to pat an sad to the whole matter—(hear, and a laugh)—for he fat that he would be Mired by the eelapethke which this exposition mat treats. Beare he sat dm •he would say a word to his sable friend behind him (Lord Stanley.) Hs (Lord Broughams) saw that at ohs meeting bold yesterday, sot a meeting ef 168 peers, but of 169 mayon—(" hear, bear," and a laugh) his noble friend lead said that he (Lon Brougham) hid volunteered sob actions to the proposed exhi bitive. If the noble mamma (Lewdness) opposer, or some of the able lords near him, all grave, stable solid men, and remarkable for their discretion, had sedie this charge which hie noble friend bad made against hiss, he should have thought it to be a s:rcasna ; but whim his able friend, to whom he did not apply either one of those epithets in the sualleet or the slightest degree—(" bear, bear," and a laugh)—male such &chugs against him, he mouldered it to he • compliment. He might 'lamest minder himself a pupil of his noble baud ; he had gained some knowledge ander his unpins and tuition ; bat he thought little, not meek, of his mature, for that was volatile eat flighty. Lk might be open to a similar eherp—(a laugb)—but one flight be entaialy serer had taken, namely, • flight from the bones at peers to the hoar of suyors—(lanehter)—to make an answer in the Isom of mayors to a speech aide to his pressers Ia the house of pre. (Laughter.) He would not say how far good communiestions might improve bad mannere.ben he might yet improve some what in that respect, and take • leder of his noble friend's book. (Laughter.) This was really • serious nutter, for • species of coalmines, be repeated, was used which was very oppressive, and as the propeed.eibibitien was exciting the attention of the whole country, he hoped the grammes, would take the subject up, with the view of prop rag a b anal grant. Earl GRAN VILLE could not help thinking that the noble and learned lord bad very much simpered the isconverenoe which would be reasiosed by having the proposed exhibition in Hyde-park. The por eke now proposed as a aim for this balding (sad be did not suppose that his noble and - learned friend was well acquainted with it, as he was not mph in the habit of taking equestrian sirens in the metropolis) was a narrow strip of grass ssia the Knightabri lgi bar racks, and which was seldom by foot parenger.. Leila and gentlemen rode time enielleatir, but they were only permitted to de so defies • few daps in the year. The noble and leaned load bed stated that be rail bred the exhibition se homiest in a banal point Meer that he thought tke tapas. attending uponit ought to be paid out of the taus gathered from the people. He thought this was quite resesimont with the speech which his sold. and learned Mead had made the ether day, a "seek not calculated to further the objects of the exhibi. tine, hr be matured to appeal 10 the proludises of certain slams of the commaity against tie exhibition. (Hsu.) Lord BROUGHAM continued mat &fleetly of opinion that the ezhibitka would do great geed. He did not intend to suberibe, because he thought it mad be invidious in the elms to which he belonged as encases, to subscribe their money for aa object which would Meat them, but be Immediately injurious to the shopkeeper sad Wedemen. Lord OVERSIONE said it was • remiarkabls einem ernes that there was no foreign power, sad as party in this oriantey, who had not put forward come distiagabbed and premium* number to mineste the *sets of the parsed exhibition. It Lad emmenest mist dos and whether they lead to the member if their :L 1. 1;e" louse, or the other Mos. el powliement, se whether they looked to the pad merseatile Menem et the muntry, it would be hued that the most distiegaished maabon of every stem bed sprang Meth to give It their aid sad support. (Hen, and shom.) He was surprised to hear the Was ad lesone4 herd say the other Mitt. when referring to the imp it the metropolis, that the proposed erection la Hyde-perk meld be interims I. tie peak health. The ram eimien bed net reseeded or blindly, or without din eensidention. The sea was deeply aware d the responsibility whisk Meshed to it. sad of the dillealties whisk day by day gram up. TM table bed had suggested that they had ere abetweaztsi_ m te. That poostioa wee onhositted to • eon of the lint mmelosse, and they te the Cestasheka as almost unanimous declaim in wear of the site diem. Victoria Park wee mon peculiarly the meet of the middle sad lower clams, and was asterseeted by footpaths, whereas the site they had bora was ahem eselnolvely the resort of the higher classes, and be was sere they would gladly submit to the laseannienes Mite being used ke seeks par. peso at this. They wanted • epee which that park Mae emnld afford them. 'There was another nem Is, seleeting that site, that It was reported to them ea the moot amperat severity that it was the neat easy, site to restore to its Mensal state. Lord STANLEY said it wee quiteaaaesdsary be him to say a word with regard to the essindedes affet speech of the Roble Iced who lad jest set down, the lest epee& the seas lord bad delivered is that been. Stir, ha metal he Mould be permitted by his Mired, end panes, mod Anne< kind toss, that ke Mesabi he bed &mos onespetaisi ciest o lUepertaftei 10 aa ezpremisa nab Mil hem MU Moog )IS emnieg. It was quite line ihss is address. leg the manes that he was speaking to koll night onematering whet he thought wm ea wegeraMed preedea—that ategokespees la Loam Weald agar la ail& powdery lettersets by the boa odes of gado net be the purpose off , sa bat ice the paper el dsttlhleiae is 1851—be did, is fording that experica, repot that that phrase lad hem gime on the motherity of the &obis sod learned het He thought that b ern, with regard he this pertiralar peel maw thing of inceesiselem between the komwege d hi. noble and learned Mead at the Weilimbasir shesdig. seed the language of his noble end banned ildmed the Ohm night. la paint of Teiskner of ashy end of IstiMie (se we unarmed the abbe lad, bat he was be maw* the)tiactl night mire kis Meneserses by • pm etepper, but he defied any kesensa power, be idled ere Ile setae mad leaned lad kinmesit, to pat say stepper is lim of his remarks. (Lambast.) He meet de him *eke, however, to say that his sanity end his were but at a bottle of effernessam, sad that an the lane. (limewed laughter.) He woe we that the long trio:L.li whisk had existed between Ms noble sad I Mead sad histaellt would not be iaterrapted for • assent, bat be drab Irak apes him in Mune, en his ewe showier, net.. cm of these peat seeeptie poems who was ready sad capable at dea fer with may sod every quake; but he should ham after seaside,him as • pme, serious, plodding, rather sew, heavy tossup—ism. leaghter}—es one who was net apt to smear • booty Mara, wise sever massif slope in a eseetal Way. who never =Vo of as expeemice on any meolieratiee that be do. sired to meal bat am who by lateen Mews sad olady made iiwU theemply mom of me poetise, and no more ; end amen ventured a speak ea that en any other satgeet till he had made himself mast star whole question. (Laughter.) Lord BROUGHAM said his Nile kind had given his *deice on the subject ease lee it Mop ! H. begged kis noble friend to receive Ia rotors fres leis what he gave him with Ms most friendly biding—Mb the as print sinuritt of pnepose, and with the kindest end min bonever lent feel,ege—whe• he said, always when yea am in mo ment, when you hear an epaulets hem whisk you Mat wait till ' delivers his • " Is the *Kudos the sus et told bim theism of Vivaria Park, sad mated tha other Alois whit resod to i.:, he altered his minim with respect to it. Whet had shed a mow light am the subjoin ga to d tho eshmelideme me kis firing remind • sassy mmeramisselese hom Madmmem, coompleining the emniego so .Lodi and of the mode is Mbith in iheonso was bosught be beer urns them, Test bail *mg* W at ho mow ihoill o tt oit was ont of W I puree that the emissees be defrayed. TM subject th em deopped. THE MUTINY BILL. • Oe the =sties et ths Marquis of Lamson's'', this bill was end a second time. EDUCATION IN SCOTLAND. ° The Deb of ARGYLL, es promsdag a polities the lame to Mune its esesentio asp MI that map pir ral ag Mod writhe* Mee the esnegladma of the tabs* of S.sNni t mid It w e e int ebbs* beekties that he bad es ben* thus eadis Iles maths of animal eivestleaklesdes& That hinged= had mimeses es me gelded aim r be alluded to the mike whisk bed ken gives Is soother plow by • arakloo= to beim igs bill ea this sable* The solt et Is lotkd. se deembere, was emeeeded Mit weld smile scrims dillessltise, but than was ems dessmakille Amin se that esustsy_ , sad that we., WM it== exkles. sad bad leap Metal, • symenef is IN nista sad le li. *Meek and la le • pen mini indeed ia Its obencter. A paster n Winer, bed km imaled k Ilandead of *somewhat heteregensess mated* eke et Is think that the Int slop thee re iss eilta by podium% is retard te skinks its l leked wit m upset this sperm altogether. The piatm of the whisk he had now the boson te lay base the wes that their lordships would take so mismare with regard to edema's in Scotia* ; set that they would seek se inseminate. but that they meld make no fends, mend 'kw emeg ieemeat those Mode with& wets sew main Ile m of the established numb. It an to eh poles that be should seeks his elmaneeine. The abode of Seethisil were of no nay modest data; they dated. however. from • period hen while they was sametemiod M rem not a few of the thatitutions Mai* they Mari min e be meat the period immediately sesseediss the revelesies. But is order to eaderrand the obeneen of that larks dm My must go farther kale. It was at the my begonias M the reforsiallea, Is 1110, that the lien sebum fir parochial Meek is Sesellesd was e' laid Mks the mlbeesat of that . ial dam thet lebene WO semis ilWall et thee lime, fit was left to the*** MEN Oa *or/ that Mims ha et, Mill they must regard thri esbeguent Ism as moody staistleaki the slops takes st SM. Tao first meconra with* mods tho eras tion of manila select sod their giTlool sangebol7 lia the' perishes was adopted is the peeing of ohs MB war is 1646; sad that baring hoes almost komaNsfriy it wee not resew* till MOO. H. should nertliwoll es the eit voutoses this eyelets had knewed ea India& Ille believed then wee • gourd ienireedes that the mph of fiesdesd were an behind others Is kWeeteal and moral Weenies. end there wee also a general its. Ferries that a esesiderable part of this result was *Meg to the punka schools. Oa this point he should set dwell, twiner skald he dwell on the hopertaat fast that by the tasty of solos the exists's* of the parochial simile was mad* a part of the contract benne the two comatries. He was sot thyme to take any extreme ground on this qtan ties. H. mild not deny the right of parliament to Merin* at my Me* whom circumstances Masada ieterfnenee, but still be thought tice majority of that house weak spree with him is saying that it required clear proof of neassity before they thought thew Wen entitled to istarfere under such circomstaene. B. was willies te seadder this subject in referees to two glen eirounetsseas he meat the increase of population, sod above all, the therm= of digest. Their lordships INTO et nem aware that et various periods in the history of tho earth of Scotland, sections had broken out from her un make aad bad formed themselves Into independent bodies. It was set Ws Westin to offer any suggestion to the house on the it of theme dissensions, but he was anion to imam apes the house the poomliar auntie of that dimeat. Between the established tench in Scotland sad throe who dissented from her then was but little sideman, and that difference was as nothing compared to the different,' which existed at present between the members of the church of England.. The different* wee not as to doctrine, nor, in most cane, urea as to discipline ; but it resolved itself into abstract questions between the degree of connection that was lawful between the church and the mate. Now he begged their lordship to observe the conseqwesess of this mate of thins with regard to the parochial schools. When parents is !holland sent their children to the parochial schools they hand there needy the same 'standard of belief and religious Inching which in their own independent schools they wadi give to thedscdtildres. And he would call the attention of **house terse remarkable circumstance comneeted with those Meek. Their lordships were of nurse aware that there were aim mots of Sestlasd where what the Presbyterians aka the light of the referential had never reeled, sad when ein greet mom of the minde d* were Mill Emu ealholise. Their lordships were also aware that • shoat klieg had always existed in the Scotch church with regard to the Emus esthetics, and it was say ing • gnat deal ho the namisestiom with which these schools were carried is, that Mao General Assembly pre* a moieties that fa the panshisl schools the Begun catholic chilblain should be allowed the benefit of secular oduestion, sad that no religious instruction should be sins them but what their parents ap proved of. Ile was glad to avail himself of this opportunity of declaring his conviction, that of all the duties Incumbent oat the churches et Christ that of attending to the religions instruction of the young was the foremen and mat sacred of all, end he never null admit that the rights of parents were in any degree antagonistic to tho duties of churches. How those rights were in hammy with the duties of the church ma exem plified in the *risk schools of Soothed. There the giving of religions iseneetios was mode an e venial part of the system, nil the sus of sot giving it to the children wee thrown upon the parents. He would give the parents *very right which the Omit latitude ant liberty of conscience would permit, but there wee a greet difference between allowing prom who object* to religious instruction to give or WAWA it altogetke from their offspring. Let the Imo emit er the median of some of the Rabb of ilsothad the Sassaiscturiag end mining diet/in% IN *stems —when the parents had themethes been seglered, sad whose they were now seslesting their ABMs •, sad he would ask whether it week be right or wise to lean to seek pommts the duty et offirdiag_ religious intrusties to the yea* of the erstally? la esselesion, he loped that me party would elnesil is the may of a peat and saint sheen of Mimi deaden being shush eat km Pselland—that so opergaiss midi be shows is denims say system which dm gnat easearing Isla of the enemy ; V i ih . ar s ir as expeeiment mos be tried, it would be tried without spotting sziedmintitutioss. (Chasm ) The Marquis of LANSDOWNE (who was very imps* hell y board Is the gallery) was saderstood to say that ha bed lismod with plomurable attention to the able speech whisk bed just bats dolivered. He had been in enumml miss with the . cm et *a Scottish school', sad he tem tea from du them sehrob were at pretest in a Adesteste—thatthey were vidideside developed ,or that the game sell nen Y. mate of the ceenteuiry of Scotland. Me ink as ass egoism **nation adopted, or aftemilolls Se bode of which was sot founded ea tat. Ms= sow hi He bad ream to believe that Ihe ollieleMpoolles is Seethed would be dinned to the fer e, t rilin es ta a. s t i mis ho w i tis i h eit iVisitt be stactitt g od. sf hannery, sesibkose. end Mend% " Lad a cordial bed bees neasifeeted by both this Sr.. end the esta blished elmeliss he Nippon Om *sestina' efforts of her MOM% goverment. (Hear, bear.) Lad BROUGHAM thought that, after the meet lucid, osehl, and my esedeet epee* delivered by the noble dohs it was immetast diall their lordships should not inter an line k Is the slighted degree with etheemies a/Mihail, ex- I way of emeneesemest. The p the etition wee dm laid ea the tabk. EMIGRANT SHIP SOBRAON. The Earl el MOUNT CASHBLL mend " That en humble silken be primated to her lifejesty he a iy of the miasmas el peee~ aSsheg the amass rid modest of the soopiaart to shihat, mister, sad adhere of th emisvi et gelbend is Despoteies Ns. Ile eat No. h Schw a.., fees Omen, O. A. Fitzroy to Earl Grey hat year." Ile mid he maid milllagly have eke modes, but ter the Mt that Mislay was te be as day, sod that ea Toasts the bales weak edjoula s h il :VEaster 4 halide He bail , disunion, se alternative hat te bibs oa the se la thet Ms ham DIMS weft oak time pone ~ beaus It wit ea* of see mob lospeneam te be emitted. Their lordship' were swan theit sons Men appeared la shoo public papers with names se the liebeges. Ors papered to have bees written by bat mobil sed wither by the mats Then t=e bid bees mimed of most serious airfields. ea Mt adman vend, end Is their lettere they had endeavoured * minipalla demnselvies. It was tar the alwatege of theoesafay esd the pular diet. kr the infeemation of 1 lb& lesblifse, the Mier skald be folly iaireired fate, Mame the that In had an bees elbered to kleg ali reterrar s ereeeldeses at the examinatioa Walk had tabu plass, sad thee sem of the witnesses wan 1 swum Mita olowian. When Mahe sheeniest bed bees dinged, when the penes' debunker had bees alleged, sad where, Is but, the death et as isslivided bad nulled— ' weely la ant • ease the lavedignien webs to have bees nedieseed by the odialaietration of ea oath. The 'bargee were hr an bevies 'applied the animate with Milani lowl—that spirits were said es board--ead that the young amok passeagen were ins the spirits. &WIG of the n emesese were tee to Mate. Sem of the Imo mplums, and we sue appeared to have bees n Mkcm aa : tbm. As soar mak es tle prop vessel - - aged M r. kind. hem& af then, osed tie W Y careek sail C ili tsfy skald ngage er to et *WO wwliftw keens* girls m e smash to wait spy IBIS ilie k their Mau The remit was well taws. Their belnaties Mewed. It was reputed that Able tie ein• Ws or the mats had one et the gbh la the holey way, that a nissenfoge tent plass, err •••••d. end she died, end them V Meths W" mute she that the lied bees gives dray to woks, The - - - - lad a Ike me of snotty Me= ar k Lai dsi I le tbe &aft jihe v. - EN, RS I- !Ift b 44101 Weni~ pose te a kdo Nissen re” with whims — 111•10 wuMtiumts wesees were legged It his hoes heeraglit ever to lay wed it the moth sad will give.. die epperwasity I will brieg kihrod • whams who will swear that - Ws is the take reps which he sew used is the Maks el these peer (irk. The Bente earl this had • series of reguletions lithe he said he had draws wee sheik wadi peeetediege is Mare. Bad iB it said tku - the melds earl who had ea spied the atesatien el the homes ter is boar sad • half, se dodo heilweed is them. Idle geniis winds M had sellseted frau eerie. geerten, but he real um' the =hie sad thee re statesaaate he had sole had sot • tilde of baud& ties is tast. Is reptylsw when en' to (aid Grey) &said met trouble - the lessee far here the. two er dine Weser. As to the ease et the Maws, the particulars were hay issews, sad power bad bees deao is as kr as the gehennest lad sr *killed= ; amd thanks' lie nun Mani gill.! W =imam et eel dun es moved ter by W site ea & Deese was sae she which ho admitted wee hod beesseable sad fie( l bat is that she what law pd whoa the ship sashed in Sydney ? The ease wee full y impaired late. sad the hikes. pablklisti lesertk ha where sine it hell he of use, sad the result et the dWes was that the disarm of tie skip were milked is the sea of MK hr the sissies et tits& aim That ewe therefore endued, end the esly sail of heorriag the moan of swindles se lauds seldom mesa he that it wesidlis as wane pew en the tatie of the bens& Nobody woad reed the balky vellums emelt the noble owl binedf, sad be (Bat Grey) had she=e as he e d his that a tell espy lay at the whisk the made sari night reed is Am ea willed. Bader then alreweastason be did set think be ateerl dbeineT4elTri;so7ciinTriesinostreawililiwo:rd eaerarser upon. Oa • framer swain the all& sect meadered • ship galled the John Year, and read a statement from a monthly paper, of small imalation, to the effect that there had bungler immorality and minessiast ea bard that vessel. Now he (Earl Grey) Mil fa Ids hand • seedsrahl written when the emigrants were fa slot of the Australian coot, end addreserd to the ridge eel[ dr barque. It was signed by no his than 78 prologue, sad bore the highest testimony to the good eon rue at the captain end °Mem, sad the mums: fa which the rod bad been managed during the voyage. Now when, se in • case like this, the charterers sad captain had taken every pair to have the ship governed in a proper manner, wu it fair that they should be held up to public odium on the faith of en saenymor letter ? Among the pawners who ha I signed this terintindal were a dia -1 ratio; minister and a great number of married mm, and he would ask whether it wu probable they would have signed 1 it in the far of such sceacs as had been described by the noble earl ? wmllieels eased the bill that it would 'se MSpitN II bite emeempait far Mon hoes the* emambles. ‘ei aeon& that thst pireashie be agreed to, - end that It weal/ be lama better if they set esseeted with these stoats, and pawed or them. (Hair, hear.) II they left thins es meld sly had to lastriesble &Salty did ,e woo then agreed to, m was name L w 2 heist proposed, ALPOLE rose to move the minisiss etthe obese, BOUVIRIE mkt lie hod a• smostisa le pit to the lord respeeting the el the bleak la this iill■lo WO .4 one shied " spenthen slash it meld los seassient to bath easwiiiid bulbs tfse hes sea ler ko Indians brought_ Stoweed- pospeeinee. As the deem wee framed, tsattird of the meats of the teens- Rs mush were to be nominated by the stye, bat he be lieved it was intended that of these only esaltalf m as lant et the whole Umber isblit be 'Maids. As the set woo heated. however. it was &abed %Atelier the whole easthird Sight not be alleish. He whiled to hew from the adds lead whether se-third ft sasixth only might be Aoki* Lord I. RUSSELL said that it win undoubtedly the Idesatioa that only one-half of the Postnatal members might be efiltials; and, if there mai us) doubt oa the sub Jam, the dose would be altered to that effect. Sir W. MOLES WORTH said that the feet that the amble lord wee unable to sower the quads of the hon. somber showed hew badly the act had bees draws up. He theeght the better seem would be to adopt the suggestion of the hoe. member for Montrose. Lad J. RUSSELL said that all he meant to say was that he was not lawyer mesh to give as spiels as to the effect • the weedfrig. Mr. HUME wished to know U the government meant to seesist in haeingliominated members in the assembly? Mr. MOWATT said it me of very little consequesei I. lOW whether then was on. or • double chamber, provided the solleafous wen left the power of deciding theseselr s to dam ow air two. (Hear, hear.) Led J. RUSSELL said that the legislative council was =altogether appointed by the mown. That mud. roe altered by parliament, and two-thirds w. re now deloil. SUM sae-third were nominated by the crown. Mew thet penman= of his boa. friend (Mr. Moss) was that soostitution—to has may one begislative 'ohm obit to suludi from it persons nominated by the mown. That was • very considerable anoraks, and he wed as purred to mon to it. Mr._ 0 WATT said that is that me he would move the massimeat of which he had given sties, namely, the ambits of such part of Clause 2 as lease to her Majesty Oho assie-ation of se third pert of the saber of the mem ham of the legislative council. He admitted that the alters , Rea he sewed was an important one, but its only effect seelid he to hare the legislative assembly free to declare ~her be their opinion it was desirable or otherwise that this should be is it an official person or persons nominated by the arms. He believed the colonists were at present indlitemat whether there should be • single cc double chamber. Mr. LABOUCHERB said that the proposition of the hon. gentleman would be at variance with the principles of the bill, which we- to take the institutions which existed in the colonies, se they found them, and to leave them as much as palpable natinsolted ; but, at the same time, giving the colonists the power to make such alterations in them as time and (opulence might suggest. Mr. V. SMITH said that the right hen. gentleman as sumed that all these colonies had constitutions. That was not so. There were only two of them which bad constitu tions, and those had existed for only seven yean. The right hon. gentleman said that the government took the institu tions in the colonies as they found them, and that they were going to do nothing new. But were they not giving them a federal assembly ? (Hear, bear.) Was that nothing new in the colonies ? On the contrary this is one of the most extraordinary, most exciting, and largest novelties proposed to that house for • long time. (Loud cheers.) Mr. MOWATT said he was ready to postpone his motion, if such was the desire of the hose. Mr. E. DENISON thought that if the motion of the hon. member for Falmouth was now discussed and de cided, it would also go far to decide the question whether there should be a single or a double chamber, because if there were no power of nomination left in the hands of the crown, it would then be necessary, for the pur pose of constitutional government, that • second chamber should be called Into existence ; they were now discussing a bill which gave four constitutions to four different colonies, all of which were differently sir cumstineed. (Hear, hear.) After a few words from Mr. AGLIONST and Mr. J. PMEINOTON, Mr. ADDERLEY thought the amendment of the hew gentleman the maths for Falmouth was not fairly met by the boo. gentleman at the bead of the Board of Trade. Mr. LABOUCILERE considered that hi r Majesty's ger vernment, in bestowing the form of eonstinaion which la did, gave it with the understanding that the colonists bad the power of altering their Minutiae. whonever they thought fit. His (Mr. Labourites's) opinka, regaeding the number of chaishen, was, that • eenstitatkm said work better with two chambers than with one. But the much, he might my all, depended on the circusastaasse of the colony ; such as the state of society, the 'deemed peados of the population, and the means at hand for the empags Lion of • second chamber. (Hear, hear.) His aka is rising wee to protest against the interpntation put en the intentions el her Majesty's government, which ware the very opposite of those interpretations; besets whilst confining on the colonies these institutione—wkiek they had reason to believe would be killed as being of great Sportanse—they at the same time thought it right to masa& the power to the consists of altering these institution whenever they should think fit. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BALLLIE thought it • very strange togsomat that they shoul4 commence a discussion on a bill by debating the competence if the chambers before they decided, in the first iniquity, whether there should Its two chambers or only one. Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that it the hon. gentleman the member for Falmouth was determined on moving his amendment in committee the present was the time ; as, were it withdrawn now, he could not again intro dem it in committee. habits, sad institution. (Hear, bear.) In consequence of the observations which fell from the noble lord at the commencement of this sages to the effect that he was desirous of the development of their colonial policy, he was sorry that the noble lord could nest come to the same coneduakens as he did. There was an opinion expressed by boas pentane abroad, and by a whis per In that house, that their colonies, instead of befog a benefit to the country, were • decided hinny. The noble lord expressed his determination not to draw the fufszence that the colonies could be separated from them without die. advantage bet be said that he would m a i n t a i n an d preserve the dominions of the crown unbroken. (Cheers.) In th a t detandeation no one would give kiln more sue mums support than he (Mr. Wo4ole), remembering, as he did, the 'epees , don of Moesienir Talloyeand, that if the enemies of England could deprive her of her colonies they would bre sk down her last wall and fill up balsa dyke. Nothing would induce him to TOW for a single measure to separate them from a beggarly feeling of pal ry mememy. (Cheers.) He believed that in a pecuniary as well as in a political point of view their 'Polecats were of immense value—at outlets for their popula tion, as one of the mate sonnies of their wealth, as their principal mainstay of power—these colonies were inveluable. And, if heregeeded the colonies as one of the chief main stays of their strength and power, he was firmly persuaded that they would gradually fall away from want of cohe rent*, unless they bound them to England by the generous tie of common patriotism, unless they built them up and constructed them, as it were, on • platform of common liberty, which derived its strength from their common in stitutioes, which would unite them as a people for aver. He said es • people, because he thought that they should con sider their fellowsubjems in every part of the globe as forming one greet family, which ought to be joined together by that alone which ought to constitute a people, namely, an agreement in laws and a community of interests. (Hear.) If they gave them as nearly as they could the some institu tions as they possessed themselves, honeying, as he did, that wherever they carried these institutions there they would find that liberty, law, morality, and religion would always prevail, they would, by extending the institutions of this great empire for their own advantage, erects moral advantages and cause social and intellectual improvements in every nation with which they would become connected. Mr. HAWES said the boa. and learned gentleman had alluded to a despatch of his noble friend of the 10th of January, 1847, in which the question was opened relating to the Australian colonies, a question of the greatest im rtatier, as to their constitution and future government. The hon. gentleman had also mitered to the report of the committee of council ; he bad truly stated that the members of that b:dy had au and strongly stated their impressions in favour of a constitution, but he did not refer to the very Important statement in the report which assiened the ma , eons for departing from the general rule and the general principle. He would refer the house for one moment to the passage in question to which be referred. It was the committee of council state that they have reason to believe that the colonists were generally satisfied and cemented with the constitution as it stood—that was that there had been no popular information to thew that the people were die. contended. The committee of council said to this effect, that most conclusive proof was to be found in the petitions recently presented to her Majesty and parliament, tram a large body of colonists, praying that no chanee might b e made. The force of e passage consisted in this—that if a change were made, the change should he made with their consent. It by no means indicated that they con sented at all times to abide by their present form of government; on the contrary, it wee in the belief that they could amend the form of government, that it was not proposed simply to maintain it. Was the opinion of the committee of council founded in tact? Was it fully bores out by petitions and the resolutions of public meetings in the colonies? Did they know, in fact, as far as they knew anything, that, upon this, there was unanimity of opinion prevailing in the colony; that whatever the alterations or changes they desired, they were all agreed upon this, that, before any material alterations were made in their constitu tion, they sake I the hence, and they asked her Majesty in their petitions not to consent to such alterations without their consent being obtained. There was an important despatch from Sir Charles Fitzroy, containing several petitions from New South Wales. The house would permit him to road the prayer of these petitions, and the house would carry the prayer in their minds. The one from Sydney prayed that her Majesty would be pleased not to assent to any change in the constitution of the colony, which bed not received the assent of the col..ny at large. That was signed by 3,500 persons ; the date was 2nd of February, 1848. There was a petition to the same effect from l'ort Phillip, objecting to the constitution proposed by Lord Grey, as unsuited to their requiring, es being .experi mental and disturbing the form of government wnich they were contented with, and,as alterinv and abridging their na tural rights as British subject,. Another petition prayed that the house would withhold any measure cal, elated to impair the elective franchise. Another prayed that a 1 alterations might be left in the heeds of the legislative council, as at present constituted. Another from Port Phillip prayed that no pressure of public business might p the government from teeing seeps to procure the separation of Pert Phillip, with a local representative council, rush so a x!sted in other colonies. He must refer the house tea resolution which was awned to in • detcussion in the legislative c iuncil of New South Wales, when the subject of two chambers was discussed, when no proposition whatever cc carted which indicated any desire to have an elective legislative council. No question was put in the minutes to that a dace It was his own opinion that if there were two chambers they would prefer a legislative to a nominee council, but the question that was raised was not thought worthy of any re.ordine motion. In these proceedings he found this resolution—" that, although the council had deemed it its duty to give an opinion upon al proposi tions contained in the despatch of the Secretary of State for the Colonies, they could not forbear from expressing the sense of indignity with which the people of the colony were treated by assuming that a measure so seriously affecting their destiny for good or evil would be introduced into parliament without previously adorning them an opportunity of expressing their sentiments. "These were the opinions of the colonists of New South Wales—that any change made in their constitution should be made with their assent. He considered that they attached UM, im portance to the measure itself under tee conseleratien of the home, because the noble lord on Wednesday last pre sented a petition, signed by a great msjority of the leading mercantile colonists tradin g with this coun her Majesty's swamis= werkiaelined to bestow the eon =Mahe whisk thin thsemed We adapted to the catmint het he eertandr oVnehad to all somisese, as he wished to ken the power of iftriantlea left solely to the cob:meats **olves. • . 8 11 AWES entreated do house to esesider the nature cite amileament. Tint, let him state that the bill intro doe d e sew late the enstitntima of New South 'Wales. weedd go a step farther and my, sot only did the Wheats fa en inthoeltatin nmaner, through nesietiene, thepateltes, and petition, adopted at public =their eitleheftea with the esailituden as it stood, one dells *el no altentisms shall be made in it without their resat being previously ebeined. Now. what they were salmi upon to de was to make an important awake la that enellentisa without their emsent. Tie entire bill Ina based an gamin to give easishatien and eon, Int to the sissies the sheerbet *Buhl Millet from the scat meet et She he.. fermitee ter the Weft Riding that theriesumed the efteeish wage mesa with nominee IVslators, es the bill Wage dm hewn mimed on them the power of altering their aeastitiatima es they thought tie (Hear, hear.) Be enereftid the hefts% it they wished to mei in conformin with the wish of the seioniam, they would owe altar without esesest the nide. enetitanien. Lord J. MANNERS said no pawn wield be more op posed to the single chamber—however anfteneleti—than he wee. Mr. W. P. WOOD mid the boom we sheet to take a step which was fraught with happians or valeery to the "Monists. The question to be dedded was virtually whether or not there should be two chambers, and, after an attentive pers.= of the correspondence which had been laid on the table, he felt great difficulty in coming to any *seclusion m to the feeling of the people of New South Wales on that subject. lied they desired to have a second chamber, the might have beta expected to state that such was their wish in thence= meetings ; bat he bad sot met with any such &eland= neither had he found any ezpremice of disco". teat in r eference to the present form of government. Looking at all these countries in which the experi ment of • single chamber had been tried, he mart say it appeared to him that the net having • certain number of 'Asia =esthete, who derived weight from their knowledge and experience, prevented subjects of vital im portance from being, discussed in the proper tone and with the proper degree of caleinen • and, certainly, nothing could be mere vital than the deciding on a More constitu tion. Mr. S. ADAIR said he should have voted for the amendment bad he sot discovered from the papers that the nominees were not entirely subservient to the crown. Mr. MANGLES wished to ask the chairman whether it was not competent to the committee to postpone the question under onsideration, in order that that which 'storage preceded it might be settled first. Mr. BERNAL said he had no recollection of any instance of the kind. Mr. BASS said hie political feelings would certainly have led him to support the amendment ; but gentlemen well acquainted with** colonies whom he had coasul , ed on the subjeet, had assured him that for the present by far the beat thing the house could do was to maintain the legis lative assembly is; the existing form. Mr. MOWATT replied. The committee then divided. For the amendment 77 Against it r 165-88 Mr. WALPOLE then rose to move the following intendment : And he it enacted, that there shall be within each of the said 8010- des of New Booth Wales and Victoria a Legislative Council and Re prismatic' Asesealgy. If that amendment &odd be carried, to move the loserdoo dottier stews., whereby it will be provided that the Best logislaUveCounell shall be composed of members resident in the colosies, to be tipated by the crown, under its sign manual, for twice the period wh. , is Aced f or the duration of the Repreren wive Assembly, and that at the end of such period, or in case any Toms:des shall occur in the meantime, the Leg dative Councils shall be composed of members resident in the oolociee, to be appointed by the . erown, in • • similar manner, but to bold their seats for tie term of them lives. To these clauses will be added a proviso, that not more than one-third of the members of such councils shall ever be allowed to bold any place or odioe of emolument under the crown within the said colonies. The object of his motion was, in substance, to substitute for the second clause of the bill a short clause of which he had given notice, by means of which he should take the sense of the committee on the gee stion whether there should or should not be two houses of legislature in the Australian colonies, or, to state the question in another form, whether they were to act on the principles which had hitherto guided them with reference to the governments granted to colonies, or whether they should adopt a different form of government, having, in his opinion nothing to recommend it bat its novelty. A =ore important question could not be brought under considera tion. Whatever measure might then be adopted would not merely refer to the Australian colonies, but would be a type or precedent for future legislation. The question was, in het, whether there should be established in the colonies • form of constitution differing from that which was poneased by the =ether country. It was very important that they should clearly understand what principles were to be amid upon with reference to the government of the dif ferent colonies. He thought thove principles ought to be these. First of a'l, in giving a government teeny people, they ought to adhere as much as possible to the habits and mg= to which that people was accustomed, and they should depart as little as possible from the form end character of that kind cf government which time and experience had proved to be the best. Secondly, on grounds of policy as well as of justice, the legislature ought to secure to the colonist, so far es it could be done by legislation, all the rights and privileges which he had possessed in the land of his birth. The third principle which he would lay down was, that when they were giving a constitutional government to a colony, they ought to form it one permanent basis, and in such a way that it would accommodate itself to all the growing wants of the inhabitants without incurring the haserd which always attended any material change in the constitution of a government. Those were the principles on which as a nation we had hitherto acted, and which, so far as he could understand their reasoning, the government were disposed to carry out, though unfortunately they bad not embodied them in the bill. Down to the commencement of the pre sent century we had invariably acted on the principle of giving to our colonies a constitution similar to that we panned ourselves ; in other words, of reproducing, if be might so express it, in the colonies a miniature model of the British coutitution. There were only four exceptions which ware referred to in • pep= laid on the table by the liCVATl;hould have moth preferred that the question of • single or double chamber had taken precedence of his own ameadment, es also whether both &ambits or only MIN as the case might be, should be entirely elective. He believed the question of double or single chamber was of less importatir than the elective question. The colonists should have a full opportunity of expressing their free opinion ; and if one•third of the members of council were nominated by the crown, he contended the *spreads& of opinion emanating from such • body scald not be calk d the opinion of the colonist.. (Hear, hoar.) Mr. GLADSTONE said he was prepared to vote for the amendment of the honourable madman the wasslistr fur Falmouth. (Hear, hear.) It wee hie minim that. though a constitution formed of one dumb* woad be a very MAlSweett ens, yet, at all kisme t be wee *men to vote with** hew gentleman rather shim nmptillmessellatien which the bill of her Majesty's ministers premmatied. (Hear.) Tits first objets to be gained was • double Chamber Menai it was mum to right itself as to the &Ma, if Doi right a$ to aunt. The Braced objets was that both Mambos Medd be based on the elective prineiple—(hear, hear) — end the third *Met with him (Mr. Gbdstone) was, that bar set should be empowered to retain the right of aced rewards to a limited extent , on the Mn aka's*. ( new, boar.) ismi 1,1111111 ELL (who was indistinctly nerd) wee of =that the hems oldie home already &died the quer retarded priority. It append to him there were insesei eel different propositions before the home. The dint Mee Me proposition that there should not be govern ment neeninets I. the home of representatives. The ▪ whets we introduced by the IMML gentimean the member for Falmouth, that the legieletive chamber should be simposed deluged members solely, whisk In hie (Lord 1. Eneselre) opiates would not be we, as a Member cum noel on that principle, sitting with a governor, mold not Mese be a departure trim the nature of the present wanatitu- ties. bat would also be certain not to week well. (Hear, hear.) The neat proposition was that of the pokey of establishing two chambers, so that hos. gentlemen were called upon to vote on several and soafissein propositions all is the is.. breath. (Hem, kw.) However, they should only sabot, in recording their yoga, the propoeitions loin **minable. Mr W. MOLESWORTH should say be we I. favour of leglietion by a double chamber, Dune the mini* ap peared Mein than legislation by single emisbait isit new semmiuddboil ebeastosn to be based on the Motive =. (Hear, ban) If thewere is have only one As preferred it should be wholly elective to one. tint Ming meninalled bybyte Caksialgase. (Hear.) He stiffened the emendammt of tbe beer. salaam Falmosth, bonne be repeal a ladter etentitudee than the noble lord. Kr. COBDEN tbeeskt, U he understood the noble lord =that the Ninnies east an should have the power if their hem ef Bet the right committee of council on Mid; and plantations, Gibriltar, Malta, Newfoundland and Sierra Leone. As regarded the two former they could scarcely be called exceptions, being, in fact, military garrisons, and therefore subject to military law. Newfoundland had, until recently, bons treated almost entirely as • fl•hing station. Sierra Leone, too, being in the bands of an incor porated company, could scarcely be regarded as an excep tins. It might, therefore, be assumed that down to the oonsannotment of the present century it had been the in variable practise with regard to the colonies to endeavour to reprodthe is them a miniature model of the British consti tution. Siam that period this country bad acquired 17 new colonies ; three amass the Atlantic—Trinidad, St. Lucia, and British Guiana; three in Africa, including the Cape ot Good Hope; four eastward of the Cape—the Maunsiee, Ceylon, Hong Kong, and Labuan: three in New Holland, which were, men or less the subject of the present bill; one in Van Dismen's Land, one in New foundland, sad at the Falkland Wands. Now, let it be observed that there was not one of those colonies in which the legislature had not been framed on the model previously adopted in this mouthy. The internal legislature of all these colonies had bean a governor and an executive council, with bat our exception, the exception being New South Wales in 1842. There was then introduced for the fint time in the history of this country the strange anomaly which the government were g to u perpetuate by this present W— itte anomaly of a bgnhanye council composed in part of elective members, and in part of nominees of the crown. They were not only going to perpetuate this anomaly in New South Wales, bat th ey were now going to introduce it into the other colonies which constituted Australia. He was perfectly convinced that such en assembly could never work well for say length of time. For its Arm introduction then may have been wise and prudential NUM. He be lieved that it might be introduced with great wisdom and propriety, to enable a colony to pass through its transition state, from an absence of any kind of government, to the fall enjoyment of a constitution. As a temporary messure he was not disposed to disapprove of it. The question now was whether they were to make it a permanent measure. In answer to the government objections to altering the colonial constitutions, he showed that the documents upon which the statement of the celonial will upon that subject rested, referred to a state of things totally different from that now before the house. He cited declarations of Lord Grey and of Sir Charles Fitzroy in favour of the double elsetin chamber, and he urged the absolute necessity of a constitu tion which should combine the conservative caution of the House of Lords with the vigorous activity of the House of Commons. He could not help coming to the eonclusion that the reasons assigned by the government for departing from the principle on which they always acted were futile. (Chien.) But if he waived at that conclusion he must then consider what must be the substituted form of government which be thought should be made in those colonies. He thought that when " - substituted any other Arm of goversateat. _ bee. talons tbiPreekleat of the Board of Tiede — Seetintild what (Mr. Ochdea) did not at all edeeit.-earsely, that the Washes preferred having • portion of their Men sentiested by gramme% • portion of ose•third nembeatel by the wows. (Hear, hear.) He mad art iambs bow may pr ess could ammo that a body of Bispiernea, reilient at the Asap/W far addles& UAW lelibleila fee by ausinees le w og et by their eau sepresintatives. (Hear.)Mr . Mr. B NAB bid art Mak die seventaant at prawn asetreeted, mad week well. Ma the demurs* plait* woad peva after, It stay lawithased eat palatal ewer the eyelets et renew mat smarms Aloe that theme dieraN be a datable ebeiratier, sad that beat be sheave, he was Ler ee l e u . sete for the amesdiseat of the member (Hear, beer ) Blr H. PHIL said ho would exclude altessiber the sends gooey that Lila arks is tatare disearlese la reiwinee to ale seasenty ar pale, of errabßel&m • leoted eimalow, sad rawiirs lie smainent l• tar meeTie (Hear, hem) Ho wield rem awn the ben. wirwaher fie Falmenat premed the ealabibbstawe els drarbat, sad that Ile *sepia _ ft", goviiensent from that which bad been introduced in New Beath Wales, they ought to fall bock on those three prin. edges which he spoke of. They ought to give the ooloniets the game institutions as those which they lived under when they were in the mother country, and the form of govern ment should be put on a prominent bags; if they did this, if experience and not experiment were to guide them he could not help arriving at this result, that they should now revert to the renciest feria of government, to the sit praetice—namely, to the policy of giving to the colonies, as nearly as possible, their own form of government. They ought to combine, if they could, the conservative operation of the Reuse of Lords with the aetivitv of the Rouse of Commons, and they would thereby affsrd tame check to hasty legislation, and some means of combating the prover bial ileetnations of the popular voice. (Cheers.) They ought to bring the constitution of the colonies into the closest harmony with the forma of government which they enjoyed in England. They ought to guarantee and secure to the colonists the mime form of go. eminent which they possessed before they left this country. They ought to convince them that the chain which con dam with this - though lengthened by try, 111 wall as colonists in this country, and who might be supposed to speak the sentiments el their billow colonists in those colonies, stating that they believed that the bill, foundid on the report cf the yrivy council, appeared to have been received in four colonies, with high satiafarion by the people of each colony, as indi cating a poky calculated to preserve the attachment to the crown. We might also infer the opinions of these colonists, from the unanimous testimony of the press of the colonies, inasmuch as the Demme rs of every colony to which the bill applied, stated that the report, in the first instance, and the bill, cleated a feeling of perfect satisfactien throughout all these colonies, which it had nut peen his lot to attach to say other measure which he had had the honour of being connected with. In all the newspapers, it they reflected correctly the (*pions of the colonists, they urged on the government the carrying of the bill, approving of all its main details and leading princi ples, but he had some negative tesimor y, if not positive, also in this country. There had been two petitions pre seated to the house, independently of the one to which he had referred, one from persons interested in South Australia, who prayed that the clause relating to .haste land might undergo alteration, and another (rem North ampton which referred to that part of the bill which made a provision for lublic worship. But he might refer to what pared in the colony—to what rued at • great public meeting at Sydney in crusequence of Lord Grey's despatch, where those who took part in the proceed ings would scarcely have ventured to speak of the existing constitution in the way in which they did, unless they were sure to meet with the concurrence of their fel low•colomsts. it was in consequence of this that Lord Grey come to the conclusion, and he (Slir. Hawes) thought wisely, that it was not his duty to force on the colony a con stitution they did not solicit, it might be superior to any other form which had been hitherto devoid to main tain order and secure public liberty ; hut Lord Grey dad not think himself justified, after the expression of the colonial opiniou, in fercusg it upon an unwthing community; arid here he must say that if you wished institutions to take root—it you wished them to be minced, it was not by forcing them on a free people you could secure the one or the other, you must let them spring out of the wants, neces sities, and feelings of the community, and not attempt to force on them inaututione, however sanctioned by time in this country, that they were not willing to re ceive or to adopt. The hon. and learned gentleman had referred to the individual opinions of the go- Tabors of New South Wales and Vin Diemen'a Land. He must claim the opinion of the governor of Van Diemen 's Loud, fully admitting that he indivisually recom mended two chambers, inasmuch as he sanl, whin speaking of himself and the executive council (he did not pretend to give the exact words), "we think the form of eovernment. if it is to be uple ld In New South Wales, should be ex tended to Van Diemen's Land, inasmuch as colonies so joined by common interests, common trade, and common . . But this - isoliage:elioalit have the sea institutions.' Jut this gut.. doe was not one which had now b en considered for the first time. It had been laid tefure the govern ment in New South Wales, and in 1942 the subject had been brought under the coreideration of government. Sir Richard Bourke, Sir John Franklin, Sir George Gipps, and also Yr. Charl. s Buller and Mr. hi'luthur all concurred in recommending a single chamber. 83 far the gatetb n of a single chamber had received the sanction of these parties, all of them closely connected with the colonies —all of them able men, and intimately acquainted with the state and condition of the colonies. He only mentioned this to show the hon. and learned gentleman that the subject was one which had occupied attention btfore. As to the bill it eels, they had instructions from the colony of Van Diemen 's Land that the bill gave satisfaction, and was approved gene rally by the inhabitants ; and with regard to South Australis sltliongh be wu not able to quote any th.ial despatch, he had seen a private letter from the governor sta. log expressly that the colony of South Australia was satisfied with the provisions of the bill now under consideration. The house must se* that the colony itself had distinstly intimated its that whatever changes them might be in the form tics timid be -4ia the esiellageentilesties tied* be altered SO regarded idie wee net broken by apathy end dierigard on the of government, it ahoul—dit—limat biWthe opportunity of Sew& WSW IM MO EVlekkif the distatiebailew of the pert M w people. Tht y should not give them bad exproadng an opinion. Bat the hon. and learned gentleman peep aof Meletdtlq.wag*" Sir B. Pad) Is made fild Mal d Bafwasmant with the hope that they world chase' said that we boa all along conferred upon our colonies insti awaa""w.`" be "`• her body, ewe Aeolis, he diem sennetbing bettor. They should blow out the none akin to our own ; that we had always eeskeeld *Ohs wee not se ea to withdrew alteld, ....• WWI* with regard to their modern colonies which conferred esmethieg like King, L.:ode, and Com the WY al* which the 1111114 M 11111 Sig WO is that , they puma with regard to their older ones. He neon. U. could mute the hon. and learned gentleman that naraely, the tight of swamies M a ewain SOSO. ("Hear, woad rid the to ot the amendment on the right he was mistaken in that respect ; the early American °bar ium hen tie selmieterialleasdles,) of the etiesiste to demand from them the same t. re oonferred no such form of government. The govsni- Tlie His. ph. IBOOTT was Co p Into the lobby inelftwelema is the country of their adoption as those meet ceniisted of the governor, assistants and members with the hat. newenteer for Palsi,A, whist' they enjoyed in the country which the y bad left. Re et ring in the same sesembly. The bill which they were now Mt. AOLIONBY lak WNW based to vote for the thesght also dist they would strengthen their connexion c.nsidering professed to make no &kerma= in the coestitn hamatment dike his. membsafea yagiwatit, at twined with the colonies by giving them an identity of laws, of tion of NOW South Wales, and proposed that the same form std. in whish he he& bees plead. In steed that it wee the Bo Andes. it a saint OSIMINAUMI were be vsuentweliV II wield .ads* , s is . msre the The bow min 6" Is °w a s ... d ame ' ,' Os tbs wok& aid that wail, d ip fa. Ms. HUME si gulps** to tie e tarilies. n i p' esp o siiii ovary a' be surd of *Wessel dall iteetioned a simple sae Is, lbe 'Oasts— *my wise, it wou rttbe let m iaof It ; stea !be ossaass so tashadoe. al do bona . lbst wild re. - The pveaabis sobs et dim wanes , wi e l r l (lair* noble Os dams 2be aum asides's. Hero (drawiag s piste of Mr. WALPOI 1 posts; asid_boldlag it spa the pee it Earl trim adios Lard Lasidals wit* sat as speaker, ins Ir. BOUVII Istt fa the heseeirls . ri is the reps hself—this noble lard nor THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVFYING, MARCII 28, 1850. aie -- 13 - sil of NOUNTCASHELL asked whethee the i;eire;sler I;adsiii;eitite tatissonial. Sul GREY said it was well known who had written the aamaysecous letter, bat when on landing he was called on either to acknowledge or retract it, he declined doing one or the other. Ha did not think it fair, then, that on such ',ideate men's characters should be heedlessly destroyed. He must entreat the noble earl not to briag_ ekrges 'gala is this light and Imam sumer. If there were causes of complaint, lot him bring them before the emigration oonstniseionen, and they would ha investi• gated with the utmost strictness, and when abases existed they would be met with the utmost promptness and severity. He would not trouble the house farther, except by repeating a general distal to she noble earl's ratements. The Earl of HABH9WBY mid that there was great and general anxiety that female emigrants should be properly pretested on their outward voyage, and be Oamad that a niggard scomemy would not stead in the way oleo desirable a result. IELL, to esply;saintatned the The Ratio( accuracy of his provisos watmeuta. Earl GREY rapeseed that there wan no truth is those atatemenwo inept in the ease of tbo Sobram. Every cans would be taken is the emdarattea ships to preserve order, but in an miaratioa of 30,000 anmelly it was inevitable that arms immorality should occur. The motionless then put and negatiend without a dickies. The house adjourned at MOO o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAT, MARCH 22. The &manta took the chair at 4 o'clock. NATIONAL EDUCATION IN IRELAND. Colonel RAWDON moved far • return of the local feeds in aid of which gnats have been made by the commis eionen of national education in Ireland, either for build ing, teactten' salaries, it school necessaries; and the security on which the maid local fends rest.—Ordered. WOODS AND FORESTS. Viso:mot DUNCAN asked on what day the government Wended to proceed with the Woods sad Forest. Bill; afro, es Lord Carlisle bad stated in the other house, that he no longer presided over that department and would give no edictal khans's/on about it, who at present emoted the Impetus% duties entrusted to the Chief CommiMioner of Woods and Forests ? His reason for asides was on account of the amber of offices which devolved en the Chief Com missioner es officio. Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to my that he could not then state when the second reading of the bill would come ea. Lord Carlisle still held the office of chief commis sioner, and had agreed to hold it till another appoiatmeot was made. MINISTERS' MONEY IN SCOTLAND. Mr. COWAN wished to put the following question to the Filet Lord of the Treasury—" whether it is the intention of her Majesty's government during the present semi= of par liament to introduce say measure to alter or repeal the mode of providing for the payment of the milliliters of the estab lished church in Bilaburgh and Montrose, instead of the eziegag impos t, cominoaly called the annuity tan or minis ters' money. ' Lord J. RUSSELL said that, with the great number of bah now before the house, he !eared it would be impomible hr him to make any promise oa the subject. CHIEF JUSTICES' SALARIES BILL. In answer to Mr. CHILISTOPRIR, Lord J. RUSSELL said this bill would be brought on on Moaday. NAVY ESTIMATES. Lord J. RUSSELL, in answer to Capt. Haute, said he would state on Monday when he proposed to praised with the navy estimates. DEBTS OF FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. Mr. B. OSBORNE said a committee had sat last session to inquire into the mount of debts due from foreign govern ments to inhabitants of this emery, but had made no M aim report. As the subject wee ea* of great interest, he wished to haw what course the government meant to panne. Mr. LABOUCHERE said that seek a oommlttee had sat, the noble lord the member for Bath being the &slew, and had reported that there were a great many perms is this sentry to ikon suns of money were des hem Isreists I= mp and imm =ted recommended that the esnimittee He was net able is lOW hr what wren the boa member for Sheffield bad ass mewed he re ser wee be able to give any didn't onswer te ,Z i f il etlawisst course the goverment was premed M him its belismd the sable lord the Foredo liforewry bad se UAW limo mode friendly npresentatlese to MOP pewee,. bat he was net prepared to state that say ether meeenres were_ Spew* ia eentemplotiee. Mr. OSBORNI mound the resmument would ear se oblestion to the reeppoistesent of sash committee after Romer. Mr. L•BOUCHERB said he certainly meld not sail& pole that there would be may objection. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. J Os the reeks od that the hems, at its ride& skald ad ura tin ca._ I Mr. MONSid said that be wield take that opportunity I el schai Is a suisslbe whisk he hrl thrown rat in the eemmlll b ee en Menke night. on the Perlimmatuy Voters (be ) 11611.110 is small brrearks. some of the "Ones* mess dwell he winmed to them it the purpose of t rZ Afar evakinfog wkh several Ma. menshous. - ha new It would be WWI* Mete the amen entirely la the heeds at the gemenment ; end he hoped it would be slowly under. steed that the midi of Me plea were set to he judged of by Me seggestisee le whisk lee had alluded, or by the mikes of ammtliente width bed been ilea gives. Lewd J. RUSSELL wee undereteod Miley that he doubted whether the gemsweseat had given any undertakes as km. eider the walks ; at all meats, he must denim to my whether wadi IMerfere es the bee. imam= Mica. Aker a kw weeds frees lib. F. Faancts, lb. REYNOLDS slid thresh he sopported pelaelpie of atteshieg the selikbeneleg towns to small loossele, wee very mesh surprised. Os reading the nodose ma by hon. mosibees. M dad poopseels for Maki aelgpesdwg towns to berweihs ben fmg - dread_ y a large •• Keery, Mud. Deedbode, sad Wexford, witr i li g"i st population of seem then 10,0 M, ought not to be Mamba he the elms list on Potentiation, Kinsale, Athlone, end oar foes eghsmineWashydemled. The modest be the adjournment till Mendey was lbws agreed W. EASTER MICRO& Lord J. RUSSELL said that he had hewed le be able is WM the adjournment of the hems ter the Resew hell. days on Diendernext, bet lad* that them were some IMF time axed foe Tuesday, ha wished to state that he would we the adjournment of the home on Turley aunt tin Monday, the sth of April. Mr. F. FRENCH said that he bad a melba hr Tuesday, but be would readily postpone It If other meshes did the same. __ , Tar oft eau .--- ---- -- resuit, Mauer, mos. ghat olm AUSTRALIAN •_ _ . —.....easam a uoLONIES BILL. areilkeMsf!,gripaWradi bm "webleet and Mina' hi tide, awl If I Tu. Mae lieu maul Nu _Whg alleA Ths mimeos of odium, Oa the mules that the hones resolve heed tato a sow with him--it yea dimpposee his haves--if yes input his takes fit the MO ohswei Erg maw of Elms isklissallo males ea th , o bill, authority, if yea dress Ms with Mgessielsomy. if yes foal girls, whole Wismar wilt the tkird cam liseE, was Mr. DIVE IT said th at it was mom important that the that he wee sat goyim is groo moss mbsg moat isa orjew saw ea image of • selleillei brothel is the —that bill should be met out es soon as possible to the eoliths, day at • wassolag ia Waluiriter, eons lionmel mad stash weber of thus. de hod waited as the . wee hst he was afraid, If the house oost:astid to dimes the hint—don't wait till the day alter, ma haring bees sliest sow reedeleg the ewes d end - dist egged= ci what wu the beet fern of uestitatios as they whet be spot is as hese% Work his when he wu Imbue of this. WOO elee Rs mar mesas. tad done, that the bill was sot Sicily to pees that swim sot proses% sad had set the ("permit yof defending The rescumesdatlea with elikk report esmohaded was, if. 'sly wished et russet to ell the ettutiee of the go. himself. New wish teepees te what ha mid at the that the anal grusilise sbenblibewhltheld front the master, emitumit to the fact that the people of Souk Australia were muting at Wesmakroor, the role was, sot to the fins neon eel the. OM mats; and that with regard to enrehessiee of being placed tad., the dominion of New held a responsible to as osmosis. t yk r mr, mead, k ems alsiod UM he wu also undeurelig the SUM Wee,. Oa that acoosat he bad gives sods* it the bhad =Li it. The sagest hi settle Mead gratuity yea* sins matt Elitiagulatioss, sad was unfit pupas of striking out the federal duo; bat he mkt. GOVERNMENT COLONIES