The Express. — London, England, 1855-05-12 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—Fauxty, MAT 11. TM Lois CsAxosiz.os took his scat at An o'clock. THE LAW BILLS. Lord BT. LEONARDS wished to Mow from his noble sad land bind what canner the goverment meant to gems with respect to some of the legal mimes new be tas parliament. The LORD CHANCELLOR aid that the Tereesersey lariedietios Bill Mang passed their.lordekirfloses bet sn obs, the severmer thought It rage aillaibio to b leeders it tato the other beer Is the preset swim. to had every moms to hire that the would rewire the sorties a the other bore primer ; so that when it are dews to their lord• ' bore they world her Ira maim" r all the wa rier ad the amenee bri bees ditsured Nee miss. was setsware what is .roust el simpered= was. F •c Man did see irk it wee mere *as UMW ; lee ehelsitt Ile sisesells bo herd it meld be prided withent any ad. diesel elbsqp_ le the p ri s ease ley s steely o . the gleesome lase ter awe to ea esd. The hand amid be, Hod to Alen would sot be n eed from the mere of ease they sew paid, for 1: time to eras The gorromeat had prepped a procrely the ere is prises& for Inlaid ; but they did set think it *sprier to Joinder it 04 as hill for Begird had been tattled. The ether reform bills rasseted with this subjeet wen the Direr Bill sad the Ohm* Dinftlise MIL No would bar set the Church Estee BA whir stood on its own footaL , With regard he the arm Bill, that bad the oceederstass a Mr here la • former 2:ies.. ".. There was ea abandon in is preasni bill. There vias ales a bill for Irked es is sere tribe (r we nods retied), the say dilbromes broom it end the Er lab bill otasistiss er tf ase ndi realities. as were re• %aired by the is the riser& There was sears s sry wars'-- bower the Toramessary Jan.. ditties Bill mai the ether proposed bill, awl the subject of crier Marl , which wee a learn of a purely itll rise& It right be priestly tight to direr of e faireer s. . sad leave the latter smerebsd. But the lii. id not propose that Mese. They led pre. OM* sew Clergy Disipllse BM, Irina lad Ors artrimed se sere ef the bishops. ire of then had their approval er It; ether has emprord sea. • and he wee sew orpopei la seen liss trine l = i st net pasts of 'Eli they dine. peeved. The bill model dear noir mersisl modill erisois rem their suggretron e a : sad would ism be bid be hes the brats The sent grebes Mord to the Irish Treats' Oemporstir Bill. Re/quite weed that that wipe a mat let measure, amll semi earn W sorb and lid lord that MO mamba of the gerromer bad, soy more Shea be bed, say soseedy with the principle of retreeperitre ampreslion. Ilk won supposed that that priers** right Is the abstract bramble open ersieteatly with the godkogy Mee of equity wreaks la this orauy, he cavil nee meat to an err .yeieslX= L elid be believe that sly mob was All that the &Wilma fa eh. Zoe herr, ee roast to say wee, that =elegies Er mush ealsoopeedr sompreades ei g ht be dodoes& from the don ation 411 Lend Elden and fib W e. Gnat, about a perms ~..b y sad robs warm building rid melting im es ea Ye era ea he thought the ore of the tenant as essepeinal ease whisk be the posse of soillety, it was isaportaat to dial with I. as reeptiesal war. That basg so, what had boss dose ? Ilisejnat Mee had introduced a bill I. the ether here, hared spar that priaatple, aad very sera further them the goverameot was to go. • debate ester, sad the genemsnest widener' to tie that bill up thesselre, periled the moor would be aniseed with a limited retrospective cempeortion, era below what wee agreed to is that bear • Sow yeses ego. That eamposemies wee to eared only to horse built, roads made, semi entesseil Issas put ap by the Issest, and wae baited to smirk gerund of time. It was also mild& to egos whale die lasieetl bused dug teases add That wee is Oriole and, always Rival It was a soot dale& drone to justify, er NOM extant, WE, se a matter of oenspromise, tho bad agreed to ars& to it. Toe next Tees des pit aver to the iii bills that had been introdneed is eke other bar by Mr. Whiteside. Those bills had been istoodueed, r Mealy without the erotica of the government, but rather against their wish. Not that the gossamer dhogproved of all the principlea.of then bilis ; but they bail issued a onsedines, which was thought absolutely rosemary, to sire into tie state of the Conn of Chan cosy era el de Beare Court, sad whether its SIMINIWO ISSN la ndluslegoonely transland to the Court if Cibeeigey. Thus ennekeiga PI ditiertad to very to Wort the Lord a Chain: a lloy b :: of enter loopel -- reettleaaries . ia Ireland; i also a r....: of the Rolls, mil do Salicitor-Oeneral of Ifillatid. The, had wade a yew dahwate inquiry on the subject, which, se far Si it neur•al re Lacumered Estates Court, was one that interested the whole of the emissuaity of Ireland. For, unpopular ai that court Wall, to OM. went, in its in ception, there was nothing which the bulk of the etnaranalty would bear with so much @ono', as this proposal that its function and powers should be abruptly put an end to. Its powers eousisted in selling orates that were deeply deagebsred, sad giving what was sidled a parliamentary title. That was sot the original object of the set • but that provides was introduced ; sad it had been foeti d to be so extremely seresniat that nobody now liked to purchase land I. Inked rept through the Inesmbered Estates Court. (Rear) The moos was that • pa/shear knew he was secure when be purebred. Soar perms bad supposed that the Illperiall• ef this court would sot as a premium on hay* rears bedly managed, hearse they sold better lee IL Tbeedere a coasmistice was issued to inquire into thetwolal s gad Osseo whether the principle could be min • eel whether it would be best applied I. the lona t e l ftledubered Beaus Court, or I. gene edge mown. While that inquiry wee going as. it would or boss snow strolls to iatroduee any felons of the Court of Chancery, witheat biewiag whether the Inennered Estates Court was to be continued as an independent court Theretore, so steps ewe takes till the ripen of the oommissicisen bad bee. remind. That report had not yet been presented elleially to her Mabry, but he had an the draft of it. is believed it would be fraud from that report that the =e thaw darts had been 'modesties of the greatest el beedit s and goaddeed eh, germ of great moron- Med. lb biped Ilie sedesseat would be able to intanine • bill this Geisha ler iambi out the retioinuesdatiore of this report. The bill WOUIO rely apply to 'reload ; bat he saw no reason, it the principle were load to he • seed one, why it should not be ezteadsd to Beaked. Re would ad undertake to say that thin would Mt wild sot le doom. As to wets, it was a great error fee the stye di loomed Med to suppose that the ob;ect of the agegabolga lege le tweed the bee whir he settled. The AN gempleed eel, these of judges' clerks. When the elmeekiness some to sail far the wheedle of fees generally_ , deg doe asepried to dad that ao doh thing edge& Lai" "re Whsle Flatter was seder revalry ; sad be !lipid the gem satielar gory gelatin woad be muse to by the bared perms eisgaged is the Lilian. (lieu, hear.) LEASING AND SALE OF lIIITTLID 1111TAISIL The LORD CHANCELLOR laid ea is able a WI to amend the law Malls( t• settled loblet. Us weedeity Ni keeled. ea Oh gabled wage hue sea fhig-sweleelmes to .11 thekiiiiike—tot a gay lane pukka glee Wed rl a. dada wee bald by puns *be were not tresarollueto ago Imi obese interest wee Erase either by IWO *ea ge by dead of thew by whom It ha& be bequeathed. Whether this me A pall NM el nags it would be i dleto Weeks ,• but, fas ad dm pad. ha believed that thrash the gegen et e•S lead Wed led le geese .a., k wes de etaigeld, ups, the diels. le do welkee both d leillitaidded of the sedaddly, If tbey deed W eeks" epee edgy Ewa heki a add if =2 , Plas the det pbe iss weald le Nag s Se Male le hisPa owe head. Bet lbw they. Nall ad de. In pods d fed, as had been obeened by • legend Mead of kin, they emir to legislate Debbie Are edam 2preigaes we he erstMee inpredgeos. Right or sie_ the pendia et estates was pest el the adesei at eh Mat= Abe was bow thoy Mid beet hem laws te adapt it to Alalleg state of Way. As maw Mod,owners of mad sepal, wege wastiwee dal& heel deal with their mires b the mead met Ire ellid heel to thed selvaged le the maddity. Fee Iseweee, it was la drew fee every amid al peoperty to akin% hie lead isiiii, and yet head& egg be obis to give an hadefeseible min somber of yam as would war ,l up- a it the espial semeary to • Dowers. Sub eases wen no doubt settlements anotalsied powers to great bat still this did 'maims mar. le found on the estate, and the Nettle ', for working It; or • railway might • be Minas to gnat building desiiable to sell a portion of the Now, the only asuaer is whin . at avian was by mew of a . or prnariee, to ant these coatis . i h nen was very objection ationsta. These privets acts wen ' with very groat espouse. la w had probably se Idea of eases, which le believed fairly re llan. the exams had averaged so s. There were on the avenge 14 or 16 v ; so that • seeding sem of 20,0001. owners of , arandie Ma a -. after all 1, Yam a the . inquiry. Al. Ike tbo sum" of Micas that Obey were gad* pee and yet it iglabt di u quits go , mted diets of AIL et Mr; ikezitee do egad of eat d eke had 4 here bed d is delledit ogees tibia be sew the ire .. fallbillwil sadpc be 1141- . baritable Iga wee o e g a : b id lea need mod it was dated ed edi t bad been sitscabt&lllli Pled e pedals likie d 6111 1 ab. r etiloottlel as hy the Odd of ClaiNdy. si r the. • °si r s ! s l i t= slordod at saes ? Mae. Wok) tg= ii e unk ee dot whet • pry = ~.16 . ,..1 1_ _Nt le • pr . Idfreala - iii ser f : 1 lad dike- . • Neilega 7 toTsig;; ii - e - Wa ... " i Pot him ia eapeaddes up leadep it. predsetive pow Pam because meet settles erkalterel Mem; bet 1 Apia, a Wee aalgbt be fog 'seat night sot raarlde fug 1 • IMP epeeist, sad it sight lam ; or it night nee be peepsegy fee merreemeet. • massy is. b. provided 1 'venial ask ed porliaanat, ni I . 1 1 . That he g h , W m Slay 10015111 t i reareeaszily attended wit 1 desk *We bereehipe lb* wedlineea la 16 eao i'; =leat the whole elan. n 1,2701. each. Tb awash bills ivory year ; sr 1 • pear was spent by,tha owe *Win paws* which angel weak eta email judicial i =Was, it area obr 'moody ; sad ti I hat Sea wan whetted a g crirsi.—t;let,br.i.,l I gassed 'iota, the relief la 1 . to afford to the I re "l emorerra With tepee eledeest emates, sad she i,i , . peeseat years sgre .....li rd 11 1 'Gym 44 great OM*. At ir — wora sonatina were resecea;,, they levee pallid id* . Now, why shoat% as tram the pearen req Whet he peepesod, the geirod per km*eawhere m te groat as I teis 6* re eke et Me estate, lis raise mad *bed eas of dm jar* i diel ma Was es Nl_ scrilbENlL ems mins Aral Inns .ithestetis AMOY worse am VIII. a tome la tt rHi ( the est* ll i is ihseN h vs bat lii ON pea. al C il anrshsa road a ON shim TM .7.« iii: .767;:ii;;Iiitim (ileotlsod) Bill war rictaand agreed te. taberles (lidtleb Islands sad Trues) Bill, cad the Charitable Trusts AGM Ameadamet Bill peewit through committee. Timis lombhip adjearsed at Ave asiastes peat sem. HOUSE OF OOMMONS.—FRWAT, MAY 11. The Srioxst took the chair at 4 o'clock. THE VIENNA NEGOTIATIONS. Kr. M. GIBSON nave snits that es tin 'anion possible deg Be would move " That sa bauble address be presented Ulm Majesty, hothead' her ►Majesty for having directed the ~used paismb sad papal width have bees anksagsd - ffall Me essfersases at Vienna to be laid before the MOs; to represest to her Misjesty that the anent of Prams, mod , Austria, Turkey, and Busio, to the four general sedies whisk had boss proposed as the basis for a settlenest lithe Bestirs seestioe, afforded a reasesside hope that the peastt negotiation would have been brought to ti ensesenal hose, sad the war is whisk this sionstry is sow ushmgMylln• gaged teraisated ; to inform bar Itsjesty that this 1111nee hee heard with null sonars that a differesse between limallisi rowers end the (overuses* of Bade as to tin MAO node of prenteally apply leg the principles of the rid article 1 lies sewed the negotiation to be broke. off; to mins to her M.jssty that it is the opiaios of t►is hors that tin pro. =swede by the 'oversewn of Bessie lir giving the swab third uticla monis the slime& ell a rr sewed nmetislies, sad may offer the wan of elbilmiis WI billeallab sal satisfactory ;ens." He wail new E memegat. Minn es the eariiset day that be tend obtain hen the GAL PB PAYMENT OF COSTS BY THE CROWN. Mr. WILKINSON ached the Attersey Genera when it IMO his fatuities to propel* u alteration is the state of the law with regard to the payneat of eons by the Crows, is 01114•11 where • verdict was given for the inning (Hair.) The ATTORNEY. GENERAL said very etegidenhig altseadee bad lately bun made is the law is Ski respost; by a NMI deep, in use very tarp elan of Note, via., atlas New the Crum sow poid aad resulted Nets. He latemild is lbe serge of the *Neon to handing a bill to entged the pleslple still further. (lieu, hear.) RAILWAY ACCIDENTS. Mr. SCOTT asked whether her Majesty's Governante were about to tetrad's's* intoPuliusent the bill which on the litli of h last they 'amounted it to be their isteatisa to Wag la this sessiou, for the prevontion of rail. way snidest, Mr. BOUVERIB replied that the sable lord the Pesti &at of the Hosed of Trade would shortly introduce a bill ea the WON. (Hear, hear.) THE MILITARY DUEL AT CANTERBURY. Mr. 0. STANLEY upraised a hope that the COMMA atir-la- Chief bad already appointed • proper court of inquiry to investigate the recent num:doss at Canterbury. Mr. F. PELL said that the we of the oaken Neogene& in the late transactions was at that nomeat mildeeydey lanai/altos is pursuant of an order frogs the Mee Guide, cad he hoped, therefore, that the house WINN New kin frees entering into it. (Hoar.) As re pels& liergeaat Brodie, It appeared that he bad bees plead under angst a aseoad tine, on the charge of haviag fahely accusd aa officer of having borrowed gamey frogs hi.. It had sines appeared that there was roues to Wine that the °Seer in question had had pubtaluy thumbed= with him, sad be was therefor* Messed hogs emu by Id order of the Hone Guards. It was not true that km bid =a deprived of his situation as sergeant saddler. MILITARY ADMINISTRATION. his reskpation. the rolads lord was eatroeted with the for madam of as administratins, sad taadertook the task with the approbaties of the satin people of Ws sootry, who thought hint the mss for the emergemey, sad that under his rule theme liberal measums might be opected which the people et largo oor.aldered masonry. He (Major Ban) was sorry to say that la these expeetatiou the gauntry bad bees most woefully deceived. (Hear, hear.) The noble loud had see sated ia empathy with the °pianos or with the spirit of the time, nor had he introduced any of the re forms which had bees expend from him. The right hon. member forHiteks gold ese no differs's, between the re sist gad late miaistry, mad mother his. member had styled the former democratic' in oppogitioa but oligarchs when is nine. He must oaten that in his °pinks then touts ware somewhat merited. Hs would ask bed the noble lord rallied round him the moo is whom the .sorry bad goad dose? He mow called as the noble lord at mos to make sash a desisted= respecting the fetus inten tions of govenineut as should satisfy the jut dis suade of the people. If the noble lord did so, he should have his (Major rod's) most cordial support, if he neglected the opportunity he should have his most determined oppoidtioa. Under all the circacastaaces he felt it to be his doty to malts this appeal to the noble lord to put an end to discussions by making a fall and frank dolaratioa as to the iatentiou of government. He could sante the noble lord that the seeds of popular discontent had bees sown brosdeast throughout the country, and had been daily watered with the ton of sorrowing friends for those who bad been merliked, probably at the shrine et admhdattative signet. In their name he called upon the obis lord to maks soh a statesmen u should give his sop pongee a decent sure for their support, while it deprived his opponents of their cant grouad of opposition. In the lords of Milne, he sai.t to the noble lord Awake, aloe, or be for ever fallen. - Mr. T. DIINCOMBE reminded the Isea:/;;Simea the Under-fkeretary for War that on a former oocasiga be had asked him whether there was any objection to hap ma the table the report of the commissionsn appointed MMqsin into the system it military administration in Aram Be hoped the W ert. gaetlawryld state whether tee was aay ehjeseis_ksjireela por PALMBHSTON, with the permission oft s brad, would ammo the questies. Her Majesty's pleinnmst had applied to the government of France for pergilltilla te make Inquiries into the detailed arrangements of the Maid military departments is France. The appliesige we seseived with all the courtesy that weld be exhibited by a gireernmeat on such friendly relations with Ragland as Mate( Freese sew was. The communications were somewhat of a coolidential nature, relating to the internal a manta and organisation of the Preach army, end Majesty's government were not imitated in lay them on Ike table without a previous communication with the Fteeeli gennisest, to OSSITiaII if they had any objection. THE CAMP AT 1 HE CIIHRAOII. . . (cheer.) Lord PALMERSTON-Bk, the appeal which has just bola made by the hon. and gallant member for Wiadsor is ens that is perfectly justified by the position of public stairs, by the feeling In this house, and the general senti ment of the country. I find no fault with t►e bon. sad gallant member, but, on the contrary, am quite prepared to deputies to the motives which have impelled him. (Hess, hear.) It is perfectly true, as stated by the ►onourable sad gallant member, that when it was her Majesty's pleasure to authorise me to form a government, the public expectation ran very far beyond what could possibly be done ender the circumstances. I felt it to be my duty to endeavour to obtain the assistance of those persons whom I thought most capable, from their position in parliament, of making a strong and efilsient government. I wee actuated by none of those motives which have been imputed to mu, such as partiality for family onnezions, or nudes regard for rank. My object was to esquire those men who had most distinguished themselves in public life, who bad shown themselves most competent for a share in the management of public affairs, and who held political opinions is harmony with my own. That mouse, I apprehend, to be the one which should be taken by any man commissioned by his Bovenign to term an administration. (lieu, hear.) Now I know it has been said and thought by many that, instead of selecting such men, I should have gone elsewhere, and have endeavoured to form my administration of men who were intimate with commerce sad business transactions. My answer to that is plain and simple. Those persons whose talents have brought them steam in mercantile pursuits have engaged them elees in transactions which 'sake it impossible for them to abandos their COW. snercial pursuits, and devote thiamine to the un certainty of a political office. Does not every one know that when Lord Derby was commissioned to form as administration, he was desirous of having as Chancellor et the Exchequer the hon. member for Hantlagdem, than whom so man la the home was more fitted, by his talent and position, for the post ? But that gentleman was fully engaged in immense commercial transactions, and was obliged to decline the proposals which Lord Derby had made. When I was forming the present government I was anxious to obtain the assistance of the hon. member for Wick, bat that gentleman's com mercial engagements also, were such that he could sot accept office with the government. (Hear, hear.) The fact is that a person called on to form a government . . . _ . . has not that freedom of choice which soma persons are apt Mr. R. 'ALL asked the of the Ordnance whether Ms impel the Canoeist Kildare was essapleted and ready to fotalins• Maw' haul Ho toast look, in the dolt place, Ott nemmelea ; if sot, hew many of the hate were many for ma of political experience —men who, by their fo rmer emailed sad UMW ; awl how many more might be coast- madact, have shown themselves capable of discharging dined as halt am flp ie l Mother any and what quantity of political duty, and who have no private engagements to in stantiate wenn wed delivers, ea the ground for the torten with their aegis cases of what may tura out to be maniske; what wee the clams is the egatract as to huff se t o th e time named, sa d peas's, for see . temporary political ones. I have been guided by theme w awe principles, and I cam% but think that the government, as Mr. MONSELL had to isfora the lea. gentleman that it stands, is composed of men who, by their former conduct, nee ap at the Cstrigh wee not yet compote; 63 soldiers' have Gentled themselves to political position and the confid. ll often' huts, and 6 outbuildings, were actually cos gbodm m buts aim defebed. 107 f ure a . He sate et the sountry. (Hear.) Bat the gallant officer ex• lille inffiniesd • very large quantity was on the ground. The pram • wish to know what are the views of the government sgressenall with them attectors was, that huts for two bat- with regard to those administrative changes which the taboo Winn 90 111101) wen to be mandated by the lit of woke of the coaatry so loudly oath for. lam free to admit Kai/ Ina for three hattab a ll W ant 136) against the 18th that considerable improvement* have been required in of say ; the whole ef the sot len' huts by the 21st of Me sad the egtemany departments, and I can assure the h ones an d th e steer sartets. hospitals, and cue:windier by t he 9th M Jena. The pswalty for teen-performance was 10 per thante7that than nation have not escaped the attention Best. es the eirieust of the sommet. of the pverament Math has already been done, and I MILITARY INVENTIONS. am happy to add that so far the most satisfactory results Mr. EWART asked what measures had been adopted by have been obtained. (Hear, hear) If, for instance, we the Board of Ordnance for investigating and deciding on amissaisal sad other inventions Isid before them for the take the army, that Meek of the public service which, from more vigorous promotion of the war, and what had so far milmaaate eireanistasese, has attracted the greatest amount Ma the working of such measure& of pane attention, I am happy to say that the army now Mr. MONSELL, is reply , stated that until lately laves- tit. b y universal „ saga; to as perfect a „ mamma am so Ogee of the triad were investigated bye emittes m Y eimpuid mord, of soi si ote ambers, without any per , British army that ever took the field. I say ems l b sre d o we ea assems of his estastme atemannats, this sot merely en the 'vides* dour own officer*, or from Tim less Esentary of We she Duke of Novara" minth Mina reports, bat arm tho unsuspected testimony of the duel an sioadadadds; l 7 °°°°° f 11110 P, en d olltaftald sammeader of the stay of our allies, who readers the most a sew essusittee, en whisk be placed a amber of ass bosourobto Antos to uto condition of o ur army to the eluded Mr. O'Brien, the professor of chemistry ; Onion. (Chain.) However, lta halm will While be Mr. Mel, professor of sathematies ; Mr. Aadenon, better sanded it I state what has been done in the way of the of the testacy Captain Boxer, Professor adalaistrative refers, sad what is about to be dose by her and Dr. Gregory. The coommittee had worked m a t ee tr e view:most. (Hear.) Is the Ant place, it is in toles aim in appointment; it met twice a week, awl thaw wee also a sab-aommittee t for the purpose nt h ta to la n st a that of which 'lnflate fa aware, eigiffthallalthene the very memos author of ham- ••••• 1 7, that when, altar • kit) years' Pent, we undertook dam sthselned to them. During the &a maths pemiess an expedition on • great scale, at a groat distance from teas let ofJeadeasy, whea tes old someait woe in es- hese, and under eirmeatames of extreme diSealty, a MEM 221 lavelltleas bad hula anaidand a nd "Wand has ; neat duel of mismosageineat in matters of detail took free Ito la et hammy to the 30th April of this year , 461 immense bad less saberitted to the new aosesitte, of lona• Thus inPlO7O4 to saki anaolitthwito with which whisk M 8 remalned tet be disposed of. (Laughter.) they were not saveresat undoubtedly made many blenders, THE LAST RUSSIAN DEFEAT. bat it could hardly have been otherwise, although each Mr. GROGAN wished to know whether the gaverneant blunders led to malts which we must all deeply lament. had rewind that day any telegraphic despatch from the (Rear. beer.) But those blaaden have been remedied, and Crimea! the miens Meeks. of the orgies are efikkatly conducted. Lord PALMERSTON—I ma snare the ben. ransom To begin with the emminesiat. That department was sad the hem that there is not the least diepositiga on the plasma trg Lord Aberdeen's goverment under the Secretary pot of bee Majesty's goaeruaeat le withhold say hams- at-wee se being a military department. With regard to the o w , geed or hat which it might he ineerestad to the details of that &meant abroad, Sir J. McNeill, phEs te knew ; I ma Wormed that the substance of a most able maa, was appointed fee the temporary purpose the telegraphic inksmatioa rewind to-day is in the of oeffaaant sad anasgiag it. Ha has dons so 'maim papers. It relates to in attack which was made with great amens, sad I believe that the yesterday Sontag on I part of oar Hass by as Russians, esamiseariat artangements is the Crimea are as emplete as and width was defeated with great gallantry sad summon the anittesenthas will admit of, the army having sepia sup tie pert of our Mope. I would just make a general remark plies of those articles which it is the duty of the enunissa while las upon the subject. Them telegraphic &Matches tint to furnish. Gnat inconvenience having arises from pnetally near in cipher, sad everybody who is conversant the cashiastica of the duties connected with supply with with sash setters kaeweshat if you ger% a cipher on the one those Which belong to distribution and tranamissioo, • sepa shis, sad a deeiphsreemant as the other, this cipher is very rate estahlisionent for transport has beta crested under sew of an as. whatever. (Hear.) Therefore it it ins- Col. M'Mardo, and is now working with great elkiney. pasibis fee her Majesty/a gesrament, in consanicating is- So lir, therefore, we have mien to believe that from hence telllgeass which mean to them I. cipher, to give all the forwaribtthe army in the Crimea will he firelehed wards, or anything approaching to them, in which the amply with supplies, while there will also be the Stelling wee is conveyed. most ample and complete memo of transport. Neat PUBLIC AFFAIRS. some the medical department, the defects of which Mr. F. FRENCH suggested to the hoe. and gallant are Moat immediately le be »mulled. New persons have member for Windsor to pomace bis notice on public affairs ; hem appointed at its Mad, end for the future • military eseeng that by prangs it, he would merely be anticipating man will be united in authority with a civilian, and both the awn imPertsat debate which mast arise on the motion will be Inds the immediate control of the Secretary for of the hen. member for Aylesbury. (Hear. hear.) War, with whoa it will rest to give all directions for the Major REED said he did not see that there was any re. management of the do sad sad to meant* the promo emblems between kis meths and that of the hon. time. (Hear, hear.) The hospital arraegmasats I. the 'amber for Aylesbury, to justify the withdrawal of Est have ales beim pissed is a most satisfactory sedition, the foggier. The hemarable member's motion was of not oily Meng beta supplied with civilian surgeons, but the oaten of • vote of same on the goverameat, a civilian monissim wet sent out, consisting of Dr. while his (Maier Reed's) was of • perfectly diffsreat eta- Gavin, uafortaaately KUM by ea amides% and Mr. rester. As aa lisdepradeat umber of that hems, and one Reerlinsea, an seems. These gentlemen were seat trim to give the goverment a cordial 'import is the out for the sole pines of Meng' the hospitals ia in en. trying eiremsaaces in which they were involved, he was sent position, and the manse( their martinet have elnety saltless to give tin noble lord at the head of that govera- been most satisfactory. Greet emplants Meng aloe bran mat an opportunity to make each • stet/meat es would made of the want of saleisat mesas of trompart, • new satnfy the demands of the country ; and therefore he did not arrangers.% bee been made with regard to the naval trar. feel it essithtert with 'hie position a. an isdependest aim- ports. That departseat was formerly under the r yore bet, galeaatlllted with any party, to abandon his alotlea. meat of • penes whe vies the charged with otitis' dada, In the weeds of that motion, he hogged to call the sten- and %admittedly, ' B ader th e seem" of h e a see , , arrange. tea of her Majesty's government to MS highly ended poet- mate wen set always made with the necansty doges ad des of robin again' sad to the tolthadol want, aid Padadita bat my right honstrable tread the late First "thin et preset pervades all slants of Lord of the Admiralty, whom I asa happy to me aged to impress apes her Majesty's government :be in hi, Plow, established an excellent arnagenteal by which ME .EX Fll4BB, 84.11711,DAY . • . .... ... L __--, ea sal., Ms dowse els* ati sa geed ipe 3 0 likathdloWill won seeendetrall I it. Me *slight tee 0- m g t an ato ultras deoldrad n yopalar ia diorow I l leis have the posermini etlh M the eaaeig t ill„ot et a biben.A .. ..... a . elate a i en eeesbeest 4ith the Weal- 1 ' sow P P gra nt erlMPW7!'""'' la tail sight eases twisty-ea. Mee 01 GP "4 tee jut dukasak if the people. 1 sable lord) proposed therefore that a tame He 'Med to all the noble lord's atteatice to the I ii vs „Pr' to give sricaltaral lisle% sat feet that at the - elm whoa Lewd Aberdeen Indent i rft Omits MAY 12,, .1855. has been Sload Mill • board satins orders of the Admiralty. - Thuiiihe far es repute the etundeseriat, medical, and beiteport as portliest% 'Melba atougemeets had bees made whisk 1$ already predated mast besefleial effects, and will, I truer preeset the neurones of the serious imonveniencee which dlitiArasSed Otelantima of last year. Then, with regard to what we are grin to de, I know it has struck 'embed, wise Me attended to military =Ken, that that poetise of our military arrangements which consisted in the sopa ed very important branches of the service web e rest under the Board of Ordnance, was highly in aad loudly called for remedy. My noble freed Lad Pasture des given his seriou atteation to the matter iipirbes effected some important arrangements. That whisk r e tteaded to be done I shall proceed to expl a ia to th e The house will, I am sure, feel that there always Inall be difileulty in remodelling departments of the public sleelle Millie important public services were actually going 11,14 as is well known, is the ease at present, so that we seaboolly fled time for making the necessary alterations, while lbw might actually be danger in interfering with the despot* of public Menem. The intention is to abolish the Beard of Ordnance and the dies of Muter-Oeneral as a separate establishment. The corps of Artillery and Engineers will, as military bodies, be placed under the same authorities m govern the discipline of the army at large. For my own part I suer weld understand why thee, branches of the mil Vary service should have been separated. It was, I be lieve, tie malt of ancient arrangements, and is nor, I believe, permitted la say army is the world bat oar own. It often happens that things are allowed to go on for a long period of years merely on amount of their antiquity, which, if they were to be instituted now, no one would have the hardihood to propose. I think that a great advantage will arise from &slag the artillery sad engineers under the same head as the rest of the army, as the distinctions which now exist have oftea been atteaded with inconvenience to the service. (Hsu, hear.) While these changes ars being made, and the Ordnance placed under the Commander in Chief, the civil department will be placed under the control of the Secretary f r War. TM object in making thus artaagemensa has been to centralise as mach as possible the direction of the army, sad to give unity in all matters in which unity is necessary or desirable. (Hear, hear.) The provision of stores, cannon, ammunition, end everything connected with fortification and barracks will be placed under the direction of the war department, of curse with subordinate departments to carry the orders into ex ecution. The house will see that when we have the commissariat, medical, and oedemata' departments transferred to the Minister of War, there still re mains a branch of the serving which has hitherto been entrusted to the Secretary at War—that is to say, the exasiaatioa of the aosesats of the army. That is a department of great importance —one that has business to do which must be done under some re sponsible head. This once has also been molted with the war department under my noble friend, Lord Paramus. Under him will be all the different military departmente,the political management of the army,the distri bution of troops, and the direction of expeditious. He will also perform the duties of seeretarq-at• War besides having the direction of the commissariat, land transport, medical de. partaken', sad the ordnaatte. I know there are some persons who think that oonsolidation should be carried farther, and that the Mialeter for War should also be the Commander-in- Chief—that is to say, that the person controlling the disci. plias of the army should also control its political action. Now I confess that I for oce am not of that opinion. (Hear, hear.) I think that there would be grave objections to that as regards the interests of the mature. It mast be army, with others of a remembered that this country is under parliamentary go- , vernment, which government is liable to be changed from time to time, and must always be composed of men of car tain politial characters. If then the Minister for War was also to be director of the discipliao of the , army, it is obvious that mach inconvenience must I follow. For instance, I thins it would be fatal to I the discipline of the army to have it directed by a civi- ; lira. The soldiers would hardly look ap with proper respect to a chief who was not • soldier also. Hie praise would . have no value, and his censure would convey no reproof. (Hear, hear.) Would it be possible, on the other hand, oa all occasions of • change of government, to find a military man who bed so devoted himself to political matters as to , be qualified to represent the army in the cabinet t 1 think not. (Rear, hear.) Therefore, with regard to the interests I of the army, it is very undesirable that the suggested I arrangement should take place; but I am also of opinion that to have the whole patronage of the army distributed by a member of the cabinet would be • very bad arrange meat. I think Wit the present arrangement ought to be continued, bemuse there is la great advantage in having the discipline of the army superintended by a military man who is not a member of , the Cabinet, as it would be a great evil if military patroness were dispensed by men intimately connected with any of the political parties of the country. There are many persons who at present complain of the mode in which the patronage of the army is distributed ; bet if such nom plaiats are made when the distribution is entrusted to • military man not connected with the Cabinet, how mach would those complains be multiplied if the patronage were entrusted to a man sitting on the Treasury bench in this or the other house of parliament! (Hear.) I have now stated what has been done, sad also what we are immediately going to do. I think that the arrangements that I have described will produce very great advantages to the military bnaches of the public service. These things, however, are matters which cannot iv made perfect at once. It is very possible that experience may suggest further improvemeats, and we shall always be ready to adopt any improvement which we may discover ourselves, or which may be suggested to as from other quarters. I can , amore the hon. and gallant officer and the hoses that the greatobject which the government has at heart—sad 1 do not claim any merit for It, because the feeling must be par takes of by any ma who steads is the responsible situation of minister of the crawls—oar great object is to reader all the departments of the public service as efficient as it may be possible to make them. (Hear, hear.) We east have no other motive, and it is our duty to de so to the best of our ability, as it is only by infusing the greatest energy into the admiaistratien of affairs that we can hope to carry to • eurnemstal conclusion that great war in which we are engaged. (Hear, hear.) It is only by the sseeeselul prosecution of that war, through iIItrOVOUNIIIie IS the pub lic service, that say government can hops fee the essidesee of parliament, or be worthy of the geed opium of the nation. (Cheers.) Ido trust that if the imam eaturallyV Impatient, rues in its expectations a-head of the action of the government, that the slowness of the latter will not be ascribed to apathy or want of seal, but to thou difficulties 'which are laseparable from the present state of affain and I the character and constitution of the varies public depart- ; meats. I trust that government will not be asked to edemas farther until by mature deliberation they have satisfied themselves that what they an about to do is that which is I beet calculated for;effeeting the objects at which they aim. I trust that the explanation which I have given will satisfy the hon. and gallant gentleman, and the house generally, that the support of this hones, which I meet admit has been i given generously and largely to the government in all mat- I tins in which the public service was concerned, has been justified. (Hear, beer.) lam bound to say that the liberal manner in which the home has afforded to the government i all the mesas for which it has asked for carrying on the war and the conduct of public affairs, exhibits to the world the most honourable spectacle. (Hear, bear.) For we have seen that no party feeling, no strife of different sections, has been permitted to interfere with the puteic service. lam hosted to make the fullest and suet handsome acknowledg ment in my power to all sides of the home la this respect. (Hear, hear.) And I say if that has bee. the case, sad the country has also shown itself willing to wait to see what arrangements and improvements we were able to make—l do trust that the house and the country will sow admit that the changes which have been mad*, sad those also which I have stated we are about to make—that the great and marked improvements which have already followed those changes es far as they have gone, and which may be yet further imputed from them—that these reply will be sessidered to justify the forbearance whisk has been shown to us, end ands into a *antinomies of the confidence both of this house sad of the country. (Hear, hear.) R,r, we are engaged is a :great straggle. It is not a struggle upon a question of mere conditions, or of thus points which have beenlately discussed—lt is a usteet upon Which ell Europe, all the world, the whole universe, have their yes Axed—(beer, hear)—the contest of England and France, two of the greatest powers is the weed, on the one side, and Ramis, • gigantic and **lanai power, on the other—(hear, bow)—aced deviant win it, upon the issue of that 'attest, is dependent no mete gustiest of miner arrangements or conditions, but mew the hue of that mutest dep.ede whether Eagles! aid Freese shall continue . • . .. . . . kokr their prima whpoiltiwo among rho Radom oTtb — e world, or wltorbor, ow the °that head, we and Frame shill dak down t eta Wadi sad whether ths s shall hesseheireid It tits world. (Chiers.l a inferior and ....ad rate Mateo. r' with whom we are matending dictator and dominant power of • MeDlSßAßLl—Reeollestiag the lecture which the Store , tary of State read ter fast Friday, In regard to the great ineesivenience of iuterposiag motions and raising desultory dist:unions on motions of adjournmeat, which the right hon. gentleman intimated was so great as abase of the privileges of hon. members when tarried to snow, that if it were persisted in, the house might find it isemesary to restrain or restrict the privilege, I most confess my surprise to-night on finding the Prints Minister takieg advantage of the same machinery, and is a manner so entirely useepested, to make • communication to the house of same impormace certainly, and to express sentiments es to the imita tions of the government whisk, coming from • man in his high position, were calculated to arrest the attention of parliament and the country. (Hear, hear.) I cannot help thinking that if the minister had to make a communication announcing important changes in the public department., and especially in thole connected with the con duct of the war, it would have been no mere surplusage of courtesy If some notice of such intention had been given. It would have been more convenient to the beets., and more dignified to the noble lord himself, if due nodes heal been given of his intention. (Hear, hear.) I confess when I entered the house, and looked at the bill of our business fee the night, 1 was considerably surprised by the sort of portentous announcement introdueed to oar attention by the somewhat extraordinary notice which first struck my eye. I was told here of the highly critical position of public again, and the increasing anxiety and dissatisfaction which at present pervades all classes of society, and that some gifted individual meant to press upon the attention of the govern ment "the wisdom of immediately anticipating those cows queues. which are certain to arise from continual popular demonstrations, by at ones introducing each reforms in every branch of the state as are consonant with the intelli gence of the age and the jest demands of the people." (" Hear, hear," and a laugh.) One would have thought, after what was said the other night about the inconvenience of desultory debates upon motions of adjournment, that • subject of this kind would not have been brought forward is this indirect manner ; and for some time I was at a loss to dissever what the object of this extraordinary notice was, sad who was its author. (" Hear, " and a laugh .) We bad e illessedoa the other night, whet her the first edition of the "Sanyo. Man" was published anonymously, or the reverse I happening to have a copy of the earliest edition in my =ion, ventured to say that it was anonymone. And it ions that wbea Pops published It anonymously he put is some false rhyamms in order to pat the town off the scent, sad that they should est, " Oh, this can't be Pope's for he never could have made these bad rhymes." (" Hear," end • laugh.) And so I suppose that the flagrant violation of grammar in this notice (loud laughter), wherein we are assured that the increasing anxiety and dissatisfaction which at present " pervades " all dames of society—("Hear," and a laugh)—was put in by the noble lord—(hear, hear) in order to put the home off the scent, and that It might be said—Oh, this nal be "Pope's" —it would not be parliamentary to mention the other name. Well, what is the answer of the ncble lord to this inte resting inquiry of the member for Abingdon ? Here we are told that we must have " reforms in every branch of the state," and the noble lord considering " the highly critical position of public affairs, and the increasing anxiety and dis satisfaction which ' pervades'—(a laugh)—all classes of society," and with the view of "immediately anticipating these consequences which are certain to arise from continual popular demonstration," has favoured the house with a most meagre and frigiu programme of those reforms in every branch of the state which he intends to propose " as wasonant with the intelligence of the age and the just de mands of the people." It would have been well had the noble lord informed the house and the country of the inten tions of the government in • less artificial m ; but, as far as I could gather from the noble lord's speech, the only information of any important* or novelty which he has communicated to night, is that of which notice was given, that the communication would be made in another place. Now, I must say, that is a strange way of carrying on the public business. (Hear, hear.) Notice was given in another place, that great reforms and changes were to be made in the departments connected with the conduct of the , war and that in due time the nature of those changes would be there announced. Bat, though the notice was given in Mat other place, the communicatioa was cot made there, Sidle here we have had the communication without the notice. (' Hoar," and a laugh.) But what has the noble Maid seesawed ? I need not touch upon the fact nest Yes Sammeicating to us the confidence of the govern ment is the improved state of the army. That is intelli gence which must be gratifying to us all, and we have only to hope that the noble lord has good foundation for Mat confidence. (Hear, hear) Nor will I touch upon the easitsry measures which have been adopted for the im provement of the army in the field, or of the troops in bespital—important no doubt all of them, but not sofa- Meetly so to be communicated es they have been tonight ter the purpose of inducing parliament and the people of Eng les" to Ice. no heart in the great and historic straggle in which we are engaged. The only announcement which the noble lord has made conveying any information we did not already know is, that the government are about to introduce • measure for the consolidation of the military departmeats. (Hear, hear.) Nor is there anything pro heasdly original in such consolidation. (Hear, hear.) The subject ham been long under the consideration of parliament, and it has been submitted to the scrutiny of select commit tees. For myself I may be permitted to say that I approve entirely of the general principle of such changes, but until we have the measure before us I can form no opinion of the pruderies or the judgment which characterises the mode in which it may be proposed to carry them into effect. (Hear, hear.) But it is not merely that the mind of parliament and the labours of select committees have been brought to the consideration of the subject of these changes that ought to have taken place, even were we not involved in a great—l had almost said a disastrous— war; but they have also occupied the attention of previous ministries. And it was only last year, when you said you were about to appoint • new secretary of state to preside over the conduct of the war, that we pressed upon you not only to appoint a new secretary of state, bat to defies hie duties, and to place the department under one responsible head ; you refused to follow our advice, and much of the disaster, the disgrace, and the misery, which have linos followed, an, I believe, attributable to y our neg l ect i n t h at respect. I shall not be told, lam sure, by the noble lord, that he is not respoasible for what was done by Lerd Aber dose's goverment. Such a shabby encase I am confident will never be reworted to by him. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord held a high position in Lord Aberdeen's govern ment. He was the Seminary of State, who was responsible for the efficiency of the militia, sad it is due to him, there fore, that that force is in its present ineffective and disgrace ful condition. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the noble lord's panacea for extricating us from all our difficulties, the proposed measure—not recommended by any novelty, for it is in principle the one which he rejected last year when it was pressed upon the at- Winton of the cabinet of which he was • member— I shall reserve to the proper ocession, that is when it is before us, any opinion as to its details. If the details by which the principle ia which I concur is proposed to he carried out are salutary, and salted to the exigencies of the ease, I will support them • bat if they are not wall considered, imperfect, and unadap ted to the emergency-4f the measures to be proposed for our acceptance are neither bold in plan not well considered is detail—l shall not be afraid to oppose them. (Cheers.) The subject then dropped. THE TRANSPORT SERVICE. Ilt. BELLEW drew attention to the neglect which dm easterised the management of out transport service--espre- Melly in regard to sending out troops in unseaworthy ves eels. He referred especially to the case of the Seringspa Wm, is which a detachment of troops had been tient to the Mauritius last year. This vessel, it appeared, was 'snu ggle years old, was classed as an Inferior vessel at Lloyd's, Was sent out with the troops on board without being mar 'eyed after her previous voyage, and was in so bad a state that she made 26 inches of water per hour, though weather was by no means rough, was not strong allotigh to Piny the ordinary amount of sail, and, but that the soldien were kept constantly at the pump, would have thundered in deep water, hundred of miles from land. These lea as he.. member confirmed by reports from Mejor Illausadb, who commanded the detachment ; Lieutenant- Geaseal Sutherland, to whom he reported at the Mauritius ; the master of the Sariogapataaa ; and • letter from Mr. H. Bell, of Warwick, who had • son on board. Sir C. WOOD said that unless some sort of notice of what was to be asked of the government was given, it was &f -aith to give • proper explanation, and he hoped the boom ereald not impute to him want of ewe in not being acquainted with the details of a particular ease, when the notice was say "to sall attention to the transport envies." He weld Mate that senora had been made in the tampon serene ; • hoard had been wastitated of three genelenten—k septets in the navy, an experienced captain in the transport ser vice, and an officer in the army—all of whom wen the mast competent persoas that could ba found, and ha had every reason to Dope that the service would be efficiently performed. With regard to the particular ease be was glad that thew papers had been brought forward, for they showed how grey had beau the skill and gallantry of the officers on board this nisei, and how creditable to them their conduct wee. He was 'eery that anything of the kind bad happened ; bat he was glad that an opportunity of explanation had been given, which enabled him to show that no care or precaution had been omitted before the vessel left this country to ensure her being in a proper state. There was • survey, and thew was no reason to Isms, that she was not is • fit state for the voyage. He Iregasal to have with him one or two documents re ndes le MO Seringacatant ; for when the report of Gwent Owtheelsed was received, the Admiralty called on the proper e•lee le report on what bad hew does. It used to be a weeplaiat against the Treasport Board that they did not take up ships from the best ewers. In this ealse, out of et ships which were Madinat, sin belonged to *wens who were said to be tawrirred, while two, of whisk the Sedalls_ Paula was sae, hennaed to Maws. Orem, a In. of the lushest obataator s Mai that slaw would be ear Mond a guarsatet Of their ship ; bet beelike lark twei taf e w as y sl oa w n bril f :t t ia t t leak en b : and o tha w t es . um elassed -14-4 time —ln Lleplaimewse'sgliallorie. surveyed i Lloyd's, and was found in ao " ab, gegahmed In the first class for four years in ta ort 1860 she was again surveyed by Lloyd's, sad i. la seemed slut, OT dipthong red, which was nes t—haathe Mass, Sr AI. It was stated by Messrs. Gr een tha , - --„au she was taken op the vessel was put inte the She was also surveyed by the transport officers r,i f was taken up, which was indispensable, and the r, the s lag officers was that she was in tli " " repair. When General Setherland's rep ort in, these officers wore called on for an ee I`—iLlit lion, and they seat in a report dated January, 1866'"'rr._ right Isom. gentleman then read the iepe rt stated the classification and survey of the ship at Lloyd" 44 he bad already stated above, and that she showed wiee,L l and laboured at sea *wing to the Improper eturage heavy railway iron). It therefore appeased that the ro - 7.,.. ao negligence on the pert of the 00000 yieg o..,e err persons taking up therel, in ascertaiosag whaler was seaworthy. If ha/ been an imprope r beery iron which tensed her to labour, thatu did utl s z that she was not properly looked to before she wailed -- The subject then dropped, and the motion for a minutes of the house to Monday (it being then t minutes to 9 o'clock) was agreed to amid loud cheers .--7 NEWSPAPER STAMP BILL. The adjourned debate on the third reading of tbie kill wN resumed. ofth ro M tazu r. ga P htiom A i C ts. Kt It tt sawswiltd. stage e h ugw e iht wf buy l t d etn n ho o is t rbi n a ilg l l lo toh w isgipi, th ,vrieob e u,tihs b pte i l i tv i it, as being • most unjust and unfair meeeer.- oohs and large teens newspapers free of the expeoe e - r 4 conveyance; bat with regard to the rural and auto/taw districts they would be taxed for the counyance. - Mr. MAGUIRE said the question before the bones tees the amendment of the hon. and learned member for Ens' kills,,. (No, no; it is the third reading . The ameadrae: will come after that.) If that was so, he supposed beeline still offer some observations on that subject, nice desi r e', to point oat to the Chancellor of the Exchequii some Imp.. dimwits to the sunset of his measure. Th. of ly e bill was to give the public the largest amount of pilot e d information, but without any especial benefit to asy nerd. cular newspaper. That was • fair sod iatelligible peen. pie ; but he would not have been prepared to euppi r t t e. copyright clause, which was withdrawn in deference to the erase of the house, believing that at wood bus Injured the London, and ruined the prosi em i. saes He knew the value or the London journal, to the provincial prose, and especially the importance of the fon- MAU journal of the day. He contended that in meal respects great injury would be dope by this bill. It would enable low and disreputable journals to pirate articles of i,. telligence wiih impunity, and actually to live and pimp le upon the daily upon. In reference to the advertilsount duty, he contended that it was abolished, not for the advantage of newspaper proprietors, but for ,the benefit of the public. The tame prieeiple should apply to the Imitation of weight to be carried by the post. A letter for a mere private individail was a matter that would benefit at the most two pe nom, but the transmission of a new-paper was a subject of a s . tional importance. He appealed to the goveniment intend the time for transmis.ion. A rich man might reed a newspaper in a few moments—(langbter)—but a peer eau, having little time at hie diapogal, might t a k e a week Sr two to wade through the same matter. Having read hie paper, he would be virtually prevented from traosnottieg it through the post by the measure now =on considers. trove. (Hear, Wmr.) Sir J. WALMSLEY said he agreed with much that had fallen from the hon. gentleman who had spoken in up. sition to the bill, but he objected to making it a per sonal question. As a member of the committee sppointed to consider the removal of the stamp and advertueneet duty, he agreed with those who held that great advantage would arise to the community from the freest possible c.a. munication between the press and the public. Still he mold not consider that it was necessary to give to the newspaper press any particular monopoly. He would carry moths principle of free trade in newspapers as in everyting else, for it did not appear to him that newipapee proprietors required Inch a monopoly. He thought he was well advised when be said that a newspaper would ocat three times as much as a letter in its carriage. A newspaper weighed four ounces at least, Ude an ordinary letter weighed only half an ounce, and the home was now called upon to allow four ounces to pas thee* the post eight or ten times while an ordinary half-oxen letter could pass only once. He did not for • moment be. line that the press would call upon the hone to do tub is act of iojaatice, inasmuch as newspaper proprietors had the privilege of one transmission for a penny, which was quite as much as they required. He must protest agaiest the statement that newspaper proprietors required any sack privilege. Mr. BARROW, Mr. M. CHAIIBEIti, and Mr. Buena, having made some remarks, The house divided— For the third reading Against it O-78 On the question that the bill do pass, Mr. NAPIER (it. the absence of Mr. Whiteside) moved to insert the following clause : " That every periodical pub• lication that shall be printed and published at intervals not exceeding seven days between the two consecutive parts or numbers of such publication, and the weight of which shall not on the whole exceed six onoces, shall In entitled to the said privileges of transmission sod re.transmiseion by the post, if duly stamped with the appropriate die of one penny.' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said this clans* was substantially the same clause that was moved by his hon. friend the member for Pootetract, which was fully considered by the house and was negatived by a lug, majority. As alteration, however, had been made by the hon. and learned member, the effect of which was to render it mush more complex and difficult to work : for, as pro. posed by his h n. friend in committee, he took the limit of superficial inches, u in the existing law, wh in the clause now proposed the limit of weight was substituted. The effect of that would be, that the postage would be de termined by weight beyond the six ounces. They mart resort to the measure of superficial inches with regard to all periodicals published at istervsls of less than seven dayr. Then with regard to periodicals published at greater inter• vals than seven days, the existing law would apply to perio dicals both of greater and less weight than six ounces. Be thought the house would hardly expect that he should again statevt r e a r v n e d l o t hia ve nt e tphrtheprevious ground ev?i , To: spos de which h db taht ealt.he (Hear,e d b made nhe beer.) rese) pres e nt H e t h oroughly wboio ll 4 t r tl - to ' leave the existing law unchanged, with the simple exeeptioa that he made the stamp on newspapers optional instead of compulsory. The effect of this cheap in the law weed be in favour of newspapers publishing supplements and acit against them. One of the princi pal an increase of the limit of weight was that a hardship was inflicted upon newspapers publishing supplements, Inns much as they did not make an additd nal charge to their customers, when*, they had a stamp upon the whole of thole supplement. Now, when this bill became . law, a arguments in favour of si n t : 1) , 00 wnat that whichap a t ht o p e p r n.wi w oos anouul would thatl circulated b pa w y un o nl y through distributedfor h r. g t hh compulsory i t tnt spot this place Therefore, h‘ t , frt e ehpf i ou m "reb p , : L e tmai s 70. far as regarded newspapers publishing supplemen the alteration would be in their favour sad not against them. In other respects the bill left the law unchanged, end it escape of ptwlcie wo uld il ds privilege., at to thinktin crease h o e ti o t p o wer n ha o t ftht newspapers p h ose p a or r ui la sie lmettede privileges; d t t a a n tb t ni a tre e f n i u st j e t o u n v e re th, s o tt U au fa si a d e c li e n ' ta n o lf t t. e bs re tr to d ouna w b i pei th y hy le il t ve te egeo rs bre an ir d e a lza l peetea l rg o e tli tn er .d p w ritte oi d t a y t o t n er d , the m extent Mr. MALINS asked if the bill would prevent a person sending a newspaper by poet which weighed more than fort ounces? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was under• stood to reply that the bill =ads no alteration with regard to aewspaprn sent by poet. Mr. MALINS said the answer was sot quite clear to Ms. Would they be able after this bill to send the Terns by post as now ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Yee. The dense was then negatived without a division, sad some verbal amendments having been made, Mr. NAPIER was about to maks some observations relative to the fourth clause, but The SPEAKER informed him that he was too late. The bill then passed. The Irish and Scotch Spirit Duties Bill went through committee; and the meads/tents to the Customs Duties Bill were agreed to. STAMP DUTIES (DRAFTS ON BANKERS) BILL. On tie order of the day fee the woad reeding of this bill, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the hoses might recollect that he stated on a former 00elFit10, that he should submit to their consideration a proposal for extending the present penny stamp on banker' cheques to lan cheques which Tiers drawn within a distance of Ices than fifteen miles from the Bank. As soon as his proposition was made public, he received various communications from bahkers and others who would be especially effected by the proposed duty. It was represented to him that the opera tion of the duty would be to discourage, to a great intuit, the banking trade, by p tong customers from drawing cheques of less than 101. ; and he learnt that the practice of making small payments by cheque had increased of late years, and that it had been found beneficial to traders, more especially to small traders, who were thus enabled to economise their payments and to keep their accounts in • more regular manner. He con fessed that before he received the commusications to which he had referred, he was under the impression that the average anionic of the cheques drawn upon hankers was considerably above five, or even ton pounds ; but he had since learnt, on good authority, that he was mistaken. It had been stated to him by gentlemen with whom he had had an interview, that the number of cheques paid by the London and Westminster Bank, and the National Provin cial Bank of England, not exceeding 101., was thirty-three per cent. of the whole. It could scarcely be doubted that the imposition of a penny stamp in the case of cheques of that description would operate ass diasouregement, audit had therefore been suggested to him to exempt from the proposed duty cheques below 101. Now, if this suggestion wire adopted; • very complex state of the law would arise. (Hear, hear.) With regard to cheques drawn more than 16 miles from the Banks there would be a stoop duty of a pansy, whatever might be their mantic. On the other hand, with regard to cheques drawn within that distance, there would be a double doss; there would be cheques above 101. with a stamp, and cheques below that sum without one; and this distinction would Create great inoonveniesce, and would be sure to