The Express. — London, England, 1850-02-27 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TUPDAT, Fn. 211. The Loma Ciessecauma took hie seat st dye o'clock. WAGES OF AGRICULTURAL LABOURERS. 1 TM Est of MALMESSU IT wished to call the Westin of the ante marquis opposite sad bit w all y is so • prossetting whisk had TO. wally ealva pion ia the wen of west 4 Luisetee, is the essay Si Wilts. Frogs a yeah , ite by the noble seansis es the Sims night of the semies„ I: ..manl Smile wee Net MO the state t Its agricultural Insurers. Me gilOthew whether the but ▪ earquis was aware el the Webers or ; it appe by a letter Ishii he Mgt • elm am' in the seighbourbeed that sews Melee ea soused their Menem to Mew SS mess &enamel ed to Ivy Lhogrees Ms7s. to de. • week Os sea amembl , soebers, sod it wee fogad seemary to all Is the polies. They wets sulanneaMy Saks hems tho whoa ' sews 'Med ant we sownetteth Aloes s=iteliewen weembiel with the Wow ld tee him so ho yr beteg aceseyel teem ihe maks ethos to pries, bat they wen fortsaately • Sees to Ws. Ris stint la call' ne attentks to the sallest was to peeves ' ho seed with them, ley Majoetro Mame% mad these w Novi deceiving themeless law • belief of the sweems*whish W noble amnia bed suds,messy,that OM W e evers won est mese elms thee they was to re:leal of the sera laws. Sited mils beds appetite would I key their ewe yea rte eat jest. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE sail tho sable owl bad OK gins him rte gene of hi ensettes, as& be Mew sot wthat be was same as se newer. WM nitheense to the seetjest to which the Belie earl had Awls& be knew sehlog St it. The adds sot awde awe farther sober Wale Ike table, whisk weremite krifiabis la the galley. INCUMBIZED ESTATES (IRELAND). !. , rd BEAU SIONT peewees& speedos he =a ge nt remoteness of the prosediage Si tise coast of so f :Is isle of incumbend Mate% and praying for as ems& morn of the act. .tfter akw words hos:the LOS Caascatuth sad Bel 0 .sr, M Esti of OLENOALL eberseterised the vest as sestets • min of law or equity, sad es Ming in feet nothing , re tikes ea astiesseee cost He thought that at least the e swathe noes of • see sbould be glum. , ',.ord CAMPBELL said, that it did not appear, on to els wing of the noble earl, that there we say grievance in (hi. ease, and oven if than ware, that house had no appel lee- jurisdiction. Tb Bail of OLENOALL designated the eist leader whisk the swedes wee appealed as as assaisse, stbi tray, sad ussenstisainal act, esd sae whisk would not kw., been borne fee a .onset la this country. its Earl of MOUNTCASHELL said that so arbitrary clad useonstitstiosal as se had never pmsed that house. It ▪ti be forced upon Ireland against the wishes of Inland, and against a majority of both Muse of parliameat. (A laugh.) 1.-cd BEAUMONT said that in presenting the petition be had aot lama to convey any censure on dts commie ▪ ~ .sit. He believed that the set was a rood one, and would we.* well if its application were sedan to the estates for sh eh it was origiaally Stoned. entices ordered to lie on the table. RAILWAY BILiB. Lord MONTEAGLI prommeM peddles boa balm of UNA in the Midia sod other reibree peess aref*S 108 11A 15 - ' tith ca the subject et audit, a to nove— -1 bat ten days at the but lavas - late tf hi • for making, inmost& shade els wit 05 2,111 4 Or varying any railway, hate g ala;, Sr wren vested be re sewer our rail, or tbe or my railway same. sr Is arse saa way lowa .awles erre le delivend - et the elks wt le Club at es Yestlawrisa, • um et tee hems weir el de beemeetbelelee IMP, orb leolveler Ow the , pr tie eel ISO. se ha be legal, •rs Viet ap. II sr by op am sub mazaZ wow is apples et the slam kr add& A .1 hove bus dedsaidesteg re yeas OWN* Iso, ate em. ift ef the slid au sr theS b mu N. er mod s = area Souspery; and a ausetef the o• ousel la gesterase web seems. aid the Yes at yaw\ meth seems were speed Weal S. amiss* uderet. Ile soil *at if any proof were atlas el the easily be 1.4 plea laterance, it would be bud is the preens de. pr• elated state of railway property. The aims was thee agreed W. BURG EONS IN EMIGRANT MIPS. The Earl of MOUNICASEELL sad *at there be Is before this horse copies of the tadalobs with the slain of the parties subscribed be fa, passed by Tho m t. Norma, upon the faith of wildi be was bet man ,▪ Wised Are tn the soda& *lip Us. ...ea with t alias made by the toad bed and aulgreties soa mr -loonies the aistesio*—The ale a old that lit made ebb seed* Yeteingstosed Raft that all th ate he hod seeds se • fear swag impale the e int.oosiset of the medial stipethaikele etbsi ea. err. of aro* Alps true same Mel boa est by fame whack had eatescarady emu be heed. It a mead that in as ship four yews; am bed boss legooß_by coke ol t.. doctor ; he did eat Walt *at pewee ran be awl it a doctor to flag foul* Some elemilulies suoi mbt be itt place, and the &putted ought to be bus Ur re who were virtuoso. Navin awl *sr the wets , lord coscladed with the aloe. ':art GRIT, is) regard to the seal stabast et the • t"ae seal of misessaagement as bawd ewitthos Ai M, their lordships to the papas as the table. Is: eat iskesation was laid upon the table, and wee epos dm • ,sinaties ; and to thee mama he referred la seder be et ,w that when 32,000 pause west to South Aare& • -17, eine of abase woad saes* arise ; sdll he add M. at, bldg. It as a whole, the salgeedis was ormosohlly ant emci.atly weed. The WO a had said that g ••reettet emsgraties Alts bed bus user ally sels. so need ; yet this See rat SOS be leelee—tbst aka. t returns of the stair of please who bed esellarked fat S to Australia, It bed bees seasioad thee the mortality, dt. - tag the long voyage to AssleaNti, with all the eesidaste at chasm was actually WS this the avenge mortality of al the austiker of prat of the ea rep Haag la thb • -try. That was a skitter of ealealatioe. The s" d. earl had nosebleed a greet amber of o' •he misteedect of particular eargessa. 01 Men It wee b • risible to go through ill than usu. It was said that ▪ sy ssayeoee were sot At to be employed *gals, bat it gu t. ispoteible fir the consmisiosese, whys May w. n. to Ica whether re sot oath was the am. alt • ct feMealeadeacts, was eausieed, and If a p ass a tv tarred, the masa Wes& up be passssuat are to • local salami. le as eagle iasteses lied the unigratisa • moieties'', tailed to Imerebe, la the strictest seesser, • powers, sad the are large pewees, will* were ✓ ten this by law. With regard to the netios _A the sable earl bed made, he wad set believe that ielenestios with ash the ale earl bad Saes fer ia !sad wee scat. It appeared free Yr. HeilMeltre tee. Omni& that he had lbeesws admitted a wreath slate 2,4vissy, 1510. Beim desirous of plug to New ea Wass he wee reeemadad se a highly qualified preemi e: al pas by Drs. Guthrie, Asdrure. Meta • Joie eadelealeurgeos to the Seobeb Pamir OSeider, es•l Jot. C. Cal. They sad then Ise appeared to be ad. min as Aged to be die stria el ant Alp, and that the e s vat esalbleses sight be pissed in his iemlllgest and hedie esodost TM arrival of the vessel had sot y• t bets reputed, bat whoa it did anise the conduct of the elve•Se aid be *gad kths. The Lel of MOUICTCASSIILL said., * reply ' that he h• . the russet use so aeserteis edise bitalhirma t were eenest. It at be samia that the a s' t wed bow swam it wee to sat with IM realest sealles it tat @slaw el aied done fbe sea was due weed le. Marl NELSON brought is a bill to regulate the appa ls l .et of &ass le IMP Wee f heir lordship Mies adiesoted. at a gear past seven V.tock. ROUSE OF COMMONB.—Tossua, Fn. 28. Me !imam took the chair at a few ■ietotos Wore 4 'clout. IPIUVATE btBLIIIIIL Oa ow motiesorkr. W. PArrilt, k was ordered that la all eases where the mood nukes at • Ovate bill was op no..d the second readiag of snit ME should be postponed u •il the day on width the konseeksald ant sit CAMBRIDGE AND 81111211111 JUNCTION RAIL WAY, A ND BRANCH TO JOIN THE EASTERN commis RAILWAY, BILL. Lord G. MABEE= mooed the mated reading of this in I. Tao *et was to give a men direst egoonunientloa t eggotardp =title north erten disable with Ludas, a.. 1 also by mums of the areal Narks= Is apes $ a ova. ninalotties between those distil* and the saauteetaring Mr. LAW opposed tits bill as the growl of the inoram -11 .sell to the University which weak remelt from two ups. r , • railways roaming into the town, with two several toe be thesame pu ' pae sad abet se Interfering with the B 'mated Gauss, which bed bum recuatly kneed oat of tte tows, sad when matey most vabsabb pleats had been removed to at greet Thb Uas . wish WIN sae of seem mils only, would MO nearly parallei to sad namely a ails distant Iron soother line for almost Its whole isagth. 114 woold move u as embedment that the bill be road a woad time thakday six mouths. After some memenatioa, The how divided— Pre the enead means 96 Per the Nieman/at 136-37 PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. Ramos or ATTOIIOIIIIS' Load R ORO/MINOR presented lee potties% missed by 2,600 t. lto? solleitore, la almost every sweaty In Iteolaad, i o r the meal of the artotW too to which roliators sect attoesao are eabLeal. Fodder to a eledier tikes were presented by Mr. CARDWRLL. tree LiNflitr.l , Sir DB LACY BYANS=Weethissiter filz J. DUKS, fres the attorneys of ,• I[r. W. BROWN, fie. Lacier th Ti; Coked CRATTRILTON, boo Cork; Mr. Di/EN- V ILLS BRILILIILEY, from Okotkalson ; and by moral other hes. members frOM c ar ga teeL COUNTY COVII/11.—87 PBC/JELL, frost Brigt. toe; lir. FITZROY, Item Cheeter, Chichester, Birken head, Lewes, and other plasm In favour of the Menai= al the joriadietioa of Creasy Courts to debts not invading 601. NOTICES OF MOTION POSTPONED. Mr. M. GIBSON postponed Ms netiee of motion, relative to tke abolition of tams It knowledge, until tkat day fortnight. Lord DUNCAN postponed kk naotlon kr the meal of the wiadow tam aatil that day ketnight. lewd D. ISTIJART Maimed Cbrims Ew ketairm. Mr. MINE remised ► day for movies die abelities triusa. NOTICE OF NOTIN: 00VF' Mr. AOLIONBT gave es the Minim in% be we, to the missy et New Zealand, viwield MN mate SW it '— ses et MN esimy. TRZ the medze e f te tot. were entered . s Ms sasses mod erased' oast et Aldo, doing both laisoles. Of 'halm nosh mass AM% optima frees 1640» 1110, beth we; daes d eassin, the Waite aid higitole, and4=Zirwith doss In Wird se net. Aad thisassho edelaysiclitaifed devise the Owe poled in sash yaw, lam the womair el deaths Inewees lie daft et capture aid ettstiollai Ildwat the aniser n eere et meta* WILLI MARINI BILLS. La reply to Kr. CASJIIISLL, Mr. LUPIN:WHIRR mid it was net his intestio• cs la mem the weal reeding et the Idermatik g l i l a e g rimy 1 heamea's Fuel, sad Menhashe l MO that he would aff additiesal time $9 B l l llll eametitasats at Liverpool to oodles aid make thoginnee asposinted with these several colliesle. Re usual dowdy same enedier day jasteed of lefty Ise the 11111111.11 Maar Of the bills is gooks to mate is rift YEAROIIII O'CONNOR. Kr. THORNILY brought up sad proseated a repot ham the printing eammittea, was reed by the clerk at dee table. Is tals report the eematittse stated that Kr. Realm, one et*, boa. sombees fat Oalordshire, hat men tioned be the shakos. that he had preseated • politic to the hems ea the 14th lasdorkia, olthetigh ordered to lie spa the table, had set been reported spa. TM sommiefeelad, in consepease, dined inquiries to be mai. Me the metier, and found that the said pities bad bees Ohm from UMI table of the house by Mr. F. O'Canser, ram tithe ha. members for Nottingham. The polities is question woad be brought up acute actin et the bermes, sad wegettei *pm to-or/grow. T e Itont easin ess.' dot, at slate hear last night,lt it wee restored ity to ) the table of the home by tie boa. member Is, Notdagbas (Mr. oCoasce), after Wag 'boat alma days. Mr. F. O'CONNOR said be meld plead in automatics his *meet Moorages of the tome and preens et the home with regard to petitions. ( 4 ' Oh o and hear.") A petides had mobil, hew presented by the hat. member for Ozfordshin whisk he did sot know mail dear. JO tatioicentained very totesive abase of himself. He presea thought that, wider the dreier stances, the beet tidal ha could do was to gin it the widest circulation *reset the nanny, sad he accordingly took it, and seat it to We elm wins he had it pentad and published in his sewmoper.• Id a few days after its pettier ties, the hes. gladsome (Mr. Healey) resisted him of it, tad Its this old sereory to go to the cake and pt it. r The esersemy _west sad brought is dowa ea Thanday ever lag but, bat Oh do home with it at halt pest sena o'clock, snagging that he (Kr. O'Cmser) would so ems that eight. Oa Friday stag, at ea early hoar, sad ask utile r hat. membes tor Wolvszhareptort bad stated, at a late hour bet sight, he cruse down to the Yews, hrmht the petition with him, and gave it to Qs sleek; tlfsd M- is taking it away, he bad violated any et the mist or anises f the Isms, he begged, dine _the etkt hearaisedr podium, the Speaker, le egtes. (Rear, hem) Mtge h fry yogis Is. Mt. limn the upset was emirs' Is Siva ibe sehla • AFFAIMI OP GpriplOlL =,4171 Men— sibeded by the iespoolets, there wok *ay mu* based eilah berelsdi on the extent and on lib quality of tbeadmilessassweildainistered is this count:mad show* Math he* pranibmtlesee was great reams pomp dad Wahl abseil* to the sable* As an adadsoil mama for an* so sees the adendes of the house se the nob* be I might mho mead's that I. various parts of the waste, this. woo* ednestismal movement whisk the logislature should 4 resgaise, sad whisk Mr *Steely demaaded abodes. The people of Lammas% with the, energy whisk dblia =lAint, had formed a scheme for IM eel** air f their Mies musty—ims alluded to the promediegs dab aoudad* be the weeder *matt* of the ao;t e n e = Ithniaster. Is flostiand, highly advantageous as hi 4 W y been append, to womegussee of its auk* e a there were osepleists; and these ea* as e ir l' a s = y diractl o ws end adopt* the rase tone. --a sada** win* bad always ee baol=serlsOutdcbil Hie rota realm edemas ease Meassery to give Maws *mad* be all eMolibly. Th ey bad eirealeted a isakentits them* die ararilla to that ells* est hod booked their 'pain with lbe **obi 'admit, 4 the late Dr. Chains* llssidso Wow ha I" saatfor: e i b eg a 1101kroffle themse o lv f es woos s a Maly la the odnelitlea their (Rev e ler.) This ball had WO pet firth* @embalming in Lena* of a Mabee of ediasa ll =o Ihe troths*, el the bouldes et *Mon was sou .4 said* ably farther tam was used ha mass They essonnes charity sobeels; they were evelf-ermedlog. amli hod moo beam* Teaable ; bunebeis and thrinnade of thee *Ness Mae working elves, stioodea—the bop pa*. SM., the gla 411. e We*/ sod tale lodes bed Mbined - omisiderable ==.ti with the clams ile wham **Map they were Tlnth MIA the eissaregbaseissumstasiose ad the pooder movement amed I. them* direction and led to the sine Torah, namely, that the doe was come, short though the tutored sum, lie !aking mese farther step, for making 'time *name la *is mar. Bat there were tea ** stronger gad me* meat even than these. No person could mosider the °imperative **thee of this matey and other orentries ae to edmatin, without feeling thara the *don to which we belonged was sot supporting its high elearaster aid its ascent preroptive. (Rear, hear.) Through means of the noble lad the foreiga secretary, and tbe 'dames of the soused oa educed*, he was enabled to give the proportion borne by the children at school to the satire population in *does enables of Rol** sod to KIM of the states of Maori* Mil proportion Orr :—ln Free', cow to six; In Bavaria, one in eaves at day schools, and, reekoaiag every hied of elementary school, one I. Are ; in Reiland, sae a eight at die schools , besides these such private coition; ha Belgium, sae in due; in Pennell voids, Ila 6 ; in Massaohuasetta, lis a. The very highest *bait* et the mast sespdae ealealathe of this proportion is Begland—mss *sent Ur. Beinee—oily gave it at 1 in a • to make eat this proportion every rJ kind of sehbili day said earthey selmois, had to be , sad there was great *ea* to believe that it was very thaccitrate, and that 1 in lif would be eau& nearer the mark. Nat ooly would he diem ationden in tE nerd aa defines* of education, but to hi onsiodang ty. It w not the setae in say two soundse, as ia t parishes of the ems town, nor in diarist stamen et the working people. In as localities whom most attend* had been paid to this subject, it was reported that la the district of Vauxhall, Liverpool, the pro. gelto ir es d. atr e i tiag 36 day . school, was 1 is 1; in Blitetratn e. I. Sheffield 1 in 11 ; in .81LIDnehest, Ch aster , 1 la 14: Takla( the different coantim: of Enjiend, a most l asormsns variation from W mirage of instigation Wei ma. • In Middlesex, Barr*, and Cumberland, the another reiseiving caseation was above the average by 69, IS, and 62 per sent. respectively. In Belford, Monmouth, and Hertford, it was below t,M average by about 53 per mot. In each. In Warwickshire and Cheshire it was above. I. that the map at England had its light and dark spots, and dry continually iathretiagled in the drama manner. While, according to recast mares of the Regutrer.derieral 4 Ragland sad Wel* one-half the po ulatioadid not know bow to writs their names, it appis from well ***ti ed* returns from 477 cotton mills in Manchester and the somerandim district, that no less than 821 per cent. of the whole asmbm of factory operatives mold reed. The die. pin* Mended even to the sum. In the stational schools is Liman owl as neighbeertiood, than wore three boys eassated to two girls; bat in the British and Porde' mho& is the metropolis and its nololtboarbood, lbws was Italy one girl to two boy.. Emu lates was hod dimarity, irregularity ; sad the,/ called bra= seek insure as he had mtheavound to Mee aides the loadities to mortice% to sell C l g i at; of annelation between diarist dietrista, whisk make each aulese to vie wish its mespetitorai and I to poises eel less= a if not a Maw and more cos ta* VMS of ea** imelndiso. Then was yet oemethiag aeon to be otiosiderod—theeffiriessey of *ma tt* as well as its extent. How bad it suemeded in that which was most confidently eaddpated to raise a banner against aimisality t He was wren he wee teaching an aarrggunment which those who was to take any logical advantage of an opponentmaka esdaayear to turn against him, and that it sight is apps, bat in appearance °sly, be made to recoil epos eased* itself. He should eathpavoar to gird against each ea infer** which was altogether unwarranted by the facts. From tables pe es** to this house, the abstracts of two re turns, he derived these very atrikiag and Wpm give realm, showing that *matt* se tow admi nistered had had comparatively little effect in the abate ment of crime. He took as years from 1837 to 1848 theta , dee, and would adopt the clamilleation of criminals now Pmerally used elder four heads, namely—of those who were limbs to read and write ; those able to read and write ins , pelectly ; those able to road sad write well ; and those 1 who had resolved • *petite edesation. Daring the years same okras* as gross snout of crime had undergone fried lostnalloos; M had risen, fallen, and risen spin ; bat, in the robelve peportions of the criminals classified se above, there had boss no *eh diversity, but a madmen+ the .lemon it was adapted to convey most rpr ism etsiv e View bottom, the list—the least instructed chit -W anti base** IMO 411sdael ; It had been placed nadir awe beselosat hdloonsee than in former years, and those inamosto had apses e& Duda( those twelve years W per MOW 01 those emable to read and write had de• aimed from 36 . 86 to 34•40. 83 - 63, sad so ea at last to 31-93. Ia the same am the per enter a wn imals who had remind an Instruction superior to reading and writ* had also deers** from '43 to •37 per cent. This the two extremes showed a decreasing proportion ; whilst in the isteresediatit classes Wee who could read and write imperfectly, and than who could read and write well—that was to my, those trained awarding to the system of instruc tion now genitally practised in our iamb—the* had bees ea increased per onstage : of those who could read and write Imperfectly, from 63 8 to 66•38; and of those who could read and write well there had been an tames@ also, but a very tit ono. The great increase in the relative proportion of had been a those who could read and mite toper , y—children who had been at the schools which now *e g:a great mass of testi:action to the peeler classes. , hem.) It was shows by the able pipes of Ri. , the impeder of the Mak and Fades Bosiety's Mho* this a fileaar.rosalt obtained. I. sohl-- 1 11flib the total Mee* of oommiumole form VIM a tad 119 to te, In, and et wain pr eat, the Weems la an *way _lloorant 1= I" pea boll sal *a* , lora* to the total eons. tem 1541, 41, mid 44 la 416 end 47 he boat only W eenie the dowers In the sleek has bees 11.5. per There hid therefore been an taihames in criadaelity Nemenpl Otos who enjoyed the thanstioned the schools as they at sweat edded. Thee* *slim with the peat majority of the house, that realms attraction was the moat important that the child soul reasive, he had also a conviction that to make that iodinates prams Ile posies results, .there must be a preperassis odadzeire ei the commaidosties Clatewledge gad of shot liable of that faculties whisallo eimaneo parlance, was designated secular teschleg. Moir, bow.) 'To' the want el this be ascribed whatever time night be of failure in the efforts *lt bad been so extensively made to benefit H Mai gpmetation. Without this the religious they gave the was more words. whom meaning ha did sot feel or soingueliosi ; ho might repeat them, bat they did not sink kis lb Wad. (Rear hear.) They required the atom =ether instruction, and the st im ulus of his own re lbseades. (Hear, hear.) The results of the gaol nelmmie Wine eke of a kind to best out this easvittion, and to ammo our aleatiaraction with education as now generally =. Ha would take the gaol returns presented In eta he had seen ; and he would take the test pm:wally applied by the gaol ctsaplains—whether the parties eethedtted could repeat the Lord's Prayer—a very legitimate bet to apply In this case. The children whose punts Might these that prayer were not generally the children to find :heir way into gaols—Omar, hear)—while those children who had been abandoned entirely, the children of repro bate rarest% who had not been to school, would not be able es repeat, even as a dry form of words, that symbol of devotion wraith was so dear to all Christine. He took, therefore, this test te @operate the children. who had been at the existing schools from them who had not. Of Mille there were ex ceptional cases, but they were not numerous enough to street the argument ; end be assanted, if a child could repeat the Lord's Prayer, that he had been at sews school or other, British re oedipal, pablie or private, day i.r Sunday school. (Hear, Mae.) In the eettaty gaol at Reeding, out of 631 pison. rs there were naly 204 ..ho could not squid the Lore's Prayer, leaving 427 who had gone through al note iaal education. In Cambridge county gaol, 61 oa t of 229 wire usable to repeat tka L)rd's Prayer, leaving there 168 who had gone *rough a aoudad eilubatiass. In the Cornwall county gaol there were 884 prisoners, of whoa 139 could not bear this tad, leaving 446 this. who had gone through • nominal education. Of 674 lerbaCers in the Dorset sees* Clonly 67 were tumble to repeat the Lord's Prayer, lege -617 nossii o 7 a s e a tad. In Lancaster county gaol, oat of 803 primate?' 116 were in this predicament, leaving 488 nominally annteted. In the sowes county ,o at of 622 pewits* 80 were *sweat; bed* 442. returns bore out to • huge extent the setea he had made. He Mr. ANBTET ealtidthe a;:dolord tialeareftry of State kr P Alain, wheth.r he would lay on the table of the howee mph. of the iastraetlase to Admkal Sir Petits. istatiesed at p. Mot- the Comer:ammo re opeeNhebbiiarmilla mode apea the Greek govoraa_n7 twd miler= emy mat of her Majesty ia IMMO. limbade the ports of Oreame - 7Z M ali r ib iolalaina war* Miegleg to Greek subjects I. *sir pommies? lad PALMERSTON the larractiose to Admiral Mr MMus Parker had bias given by the Admiralty. tau Mall II WM aanaml to nth* Orders of that Mum Ns ea edgier to war ofOak her Majesty is over NOM to explala perly epealtiag M aliehablad alma pleas—Mat _ Mat bad beim dee* , wee to *event rarely On.k mesele Moth ?Wog the meet. of ISMS tetatatag oath as fell Me the eilmbil a Made se liedum. No isterfeream bad hem mode aa regarded Mt . AMITE! thought it Impeetauthe blew whether the low-ollemo of the mews had Imes eemoshed Si to whether eapelmle el that allure could be justlfled maw by lut order of her Iblesty le esemall (Order.) BNINUITANYSNIP AT THH MAIIRITIUSz Mr. ADDSRLRY rind the lei pnUN~a the Vida. Seershay kr the Colonies, whether the Int ear eL the =yamst: the Mauritius Ma Nei been Aired Os Mr. Rafter, sad whether the seam be stelisod he oulosloi It wee That the dudes of such ea elks meld sit be dheherrd by total mann to the sels ? lie nine to know ia whet rupees Dar. Daly, who had boa to the Aloe, was oineliewed better qualified than (Oh.) Mr. HAWS said he did sot think it seeeleary to weever the qvardea—(bear, howl—or to go into the ramose whisk induced the eppeiatiosst. SURVEY OF YOUOMAL COAST. Mr. ANiiiit Millalli 9069yeare ageotie Admiralty promised se make a survey of the sea nest of Tiseghal. He wished to USW whether that males had bees tallied ? Mr. PARKER mid the rum of the oust Simms Waterford sad Deaf/arms had ham place, and that mo bility it woad be =waded •• Tonkel. DISEASE AND DEATH IN TIPPERARY. Mr. SCULLY saki be had resolved alarming eseesate of the :state of the safes of Tipperary. He wished to ask whether the right bores . 'sideman the Secretary for Ireland was aware that the maw of Wiest' la the hospital of that maim was 700, mad the another of deeds fte the het few weeks 40 or Arty a week ; and whether mem dip WI hem token to 'pent the synod of disease lattiosta Mee ? Sir W. SOMERVILLE mid he bad no papers reforrieg to the Tipperary sinks, bet the lam dada sweats of the mortally then would sot eattaialy warrant the staiemest *t made by the hos. gentleman. The dae•guardions of P i = k i t: s e e ra Pa anatetratilery great 1142==saded dual their pewee 16 cheek the ravages of Minim imi def. (Hear, hear.) ATTORNEYS' AND SOLICITORS' CERTIFICATE DUTY. Lead R. GROSVENOR loomed for leave to bring is a bill to loped the esseneye mid Whims' maul asetilate duty. He pawed the the am of patems whet skier be advo eme4 Omsk email to mehor, um by ho obsewster anti. Obi to is emdid wadieretion el die Mme ; sad he the. prom to slate the edge of the tees, and to *spiels he mere mil . Ma insisted epos the Miriade sme shy ma Ity of the duty, and the Wein of Omen. kg to elms the kgiehenre MA, is edam my, illmidlibei the polls debt pesemden; end he pointed out the Wa de. memo Is ski& It mad epos tie amok of ateemem mil *hoe. them 'epos the himmils lithe paella. Mr. HATTER mid the opellem Woke* a aeledel iindaution is the toad soseree, tho mime oeselosi kr less anilines Meg UMW a leek Theo imeel si be s z me, oweekkedlele eisseeloiwith thh Mt, toil* move the all sae Miss of a similar bed, emonstlig to viii Om 1 VIM*, whisk we tee ems a (nudge to be Mora el the Moe* emmets As dm iff of ilo lop WlL ia q w h i lh ay lmemehl Witt Wee la Moss es lb, IN id be *sold eielmilit al the 6111101101 E , the Mai of Mush. Ma sont eliermthes km Sir P. Thefger, Mr. Cock les', ad Wm De Lacy Elam, Led IL GROSVENOR sweated to the proposal, NA the dilate was aossrdiugly adjourned. EDUCATION Mr. W. I.7olthsa me it sooe kw ham to blies laud' to promo the wash, adastlion of this people is Wm* ad Wales. It wee se hew somesery ii that oloulks was good, good he the ladivi nod .he the etmemity, that it hob to the ahatessout of aims ad to the impostemest if mstality. Now, 'Meek it was MI by sem this es the ems Mad it was die duty of mat to eines theme** sad oa the stem that ediiiMls wee a ipoe geselins, and that rakes was volneary tad sli mot hue the interim's* id Levals s e hi enk e d between them memos minket Om a Mil . momblie CI memo mkt Mid Shen& dr; geolommt lima not oboes the people, yet they would nada a hyaline, Swede la providiag that the meld should dente themembee, and it was ea - olog I view that be hod asneinmei the omen Ala he shoubi have is keine to salmi' te its The aliens whisk lid less sands ter the poomelismor i Z oaths were most homemade to all parties esweiewei Of he leen (119 &toil bed yet forth a magnilleent Mem of hewer and Weems la thus matters. Dimness bass the tried friends ef edsmdes from the vsey begioniag lad d *me ABMs whisk to mien times bad apnea it 90 Midi mow the poem deems ; and he believed the the mmilibbee er je r i= twoemil on odocation had endeallessed, weth peat cord test, to encourage them great Sake who an asseest interest in the to, yeemete dish Worts. to stimulate emu what leggloy, sod to guide them whoa seems. Be wisiesithe state of tie great bodies t That they were la eilidom with each other ; that a ?rodeo of M the ama thelety repudiated greats of the iw ; that a large hay of dheentere, sad the Sri had Fip School desime r _aleo repudiated them greets ; that the tem Muse of spooMl had strives in vain to bring together j or g einmlim iha lt roestyeLa and troZ i ld i: Le g ere . spook a reftegorde mommost had ventilated. Now, this me a state of things most earnestly to be deplored. He Mad that the Memo% the coogrogadoost diameters, she a few pews sr iseheed that they would bars sieddig to Ss wilbjeetooemono is this setter that they esti* eke um of 300, 1 18•8., mai skew that their desmaimMesat Ise,maid e, itself, had faded is that perms. m • sans' thew pressed to bare mimed was GO pm emit of WI Metiontpoopmed. Instead of 200,00 W ,only 80,0001 were is the lois d ddr Ada calomel committee, sad they had ea upeassit, with lima hopefulness as to the fume resumption of greats, that for the their greats to some schools were seerealed. WhiL m th e al l wes the ease with them, how was it with the Bath:mid &deg ? He found by the last publication of their =mail report, that "the support of THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 27, 1850. ...mares them rip by rhea adeekelems de similar der geisha. I Rains procured by billvldneb from • greet umbl u ttSgeekuiere of gash Wowed that est of nearly 6,1,111 3,000 M Met had bees at linotty esherbote. waist other Mesh. He wee merely lof *brew deem of widows, the ..51:= ul Sliminess. let them take report after sad would fle essvoyd anellneles revalts. The impeseeloh whisk *titmice ed—of lbe usedful weenspeertment males issermates and bstellemal training te 'tender Mb taieducators valuable, mad enable it to redoes MP to—semossi to bays beset imparted in a rester or lode &gate Ito the Lade of aimed all thewitimememMilms. stemmata of goof gutplalaSilicersers of resels imagellem of Priemisi lm lferstell IshOslel ill ;past ifs the me* lbw oaten the ft laird WM exiticit site/saes bid Mee vadms ., sin* , ili nza talit Alltrwesittelltide e~ ism tio Wiebiesetion • of ' writer will was very seldom attempted, lit. • Its sub he mad now esteem, briefly to expleio the maidens of time bill which highest-I ask haft trir IzYetiese. aid la WM he het on. deawared set to segmeneie asp eximiefedinsellna, bat ta wirier is ell wallehis o es the as pmellie,lier Mike ferik, fa of the undenithie riefisimy, hod esertiene, ia we ina2l with that emenal anstriammdemne whisk would reader them mem Mint. • premed theit the defl• in the es = o e: t e e BMW .1 edsselleL in say Med b w y her Mejeste's impistersirklue' should Is eadmithet thee; lr maw, he would hare them take every ites of eds retread moldoery late emmunt,— siting wheels British sad Melts malteds, Mode esemeMed with religiose temead, wheels withmateny amok nennesdna, pathos embeds, private Meals, if they submitted tn= tins ; ke would have thine reputes any sad ell es the mous of lastunkm fee she parade of Ihat dbuist, web travelog the meth mina while might arise Om tee nerete ba lOW inseams sod from eutheive esifgieaepm ' Loathe Wag ealoreed ups. the children or of .o s f them it Cam lameness. The 'moat of the de of shades being thus amertaieed, be proposed that the • Ilty should be belted re supply it ; that the inhabitants et the diarist Mold be summoned to elect so eduestion mitts*, who Would have the enpigy of the deffeisasy fee their peculiar work, sed be empowered to rate the Mr MORO ter the expt We necessarily incurred in ambit mat their plane. He WWII have continued regard to the mist fag ls. There were two means by which the wants of the parish sr district, as regarded secular education, which should be peculiarly the province of the committee, might be met. Firm, as in the old schools and anions already existing, by the menneratioa of the teacher for so many pupils as We WWl* shen/m1 repot kiss to have efficiently instructed fet the elemeis el maim adamtios; and, mmondly, by the theme hen of sew easels le be preparly free schools— sobs& to white way MAIMS of the perish OF dinned Aida have the deft stbdist his 'Midas, between the ogle Of 7 and 13, wiliest charge, without &Wadies in the , Meatment end traiabg of the children, with no religions peculiarities iocaleated upon them, .but with the right re amed and inolienable. the tight of the parents to have, at esetain convenient than fixed by the muter, their chil. Ins instructed es to relies& where and by whom they planed. (Hear, hear.) He also proposed that, on leer. Lag the school, each child, hone, conducted itself to its master's satisfaction, and in his estimation deserving by its attainments, should have a present of books made, of which the Holy Scriptures should always fore a portion—thus putting that volume into the child's hand at a time when his mind was most fitted for apprecleng its grandeur, and for coming under its moral influences. (Hear, hear.) He pro posed that the teachers is then schools should be made as Independent as possible. That they should be appointed, paid, and dismissed bribe Mal sclusatioa committer, giving them in the latter use an appeal to the committee of privy council. And should an instance near were the locality was so careless, isdulent, and neglectful of its duty as net to undertake to provide for the deficiency, be would call upon the committee of council on adulation to step in, and not to allow that locality to become • sink of ignoraace, prejudice, and vice, to its own disgrace and misery, sad a nuisance to all the surrounding country. The lowers he proposed to remounts by salutes fixing the minimum at such an amount as should ensure them some condderable degree of respectability In their social ;nation. This was of the very utmost cossequesce. He relied ea the schoolmasters for the adveassasent of the edwatiers (Hear, hear.) It was only threw! their maw that we weld have any hope of bettor and brighter iambs then sem we had witnessed. (Hear.) He would 'timeline bownrable rivalry by the radioed= by the eamndesee cier of a complete report, from yaw to yew the elate of Nomad= in every, district in the kinikw, these meets fiaAng their way into the usual chaos* and te the table of that hoses; and thus pub licity and opinion would give their unction, and would be found available he all purposes, for onemaging the merito rious, and for shamhi s le t iodiffirrine est ot their culpable neglect of duty . He ho had said mains in the course of his observations mild be feirg ts constnied into anything offensive towards ere n various bodies who undoubtedly did so much for education. • proposed to put no restraints upon them. Schools might still be erected and endowed in the Wheat principles of thank educative ; they might be put under the entire control of chrome', and have bishops for visitors. He interfered not with any of these. Oa the contrary those schools, of whatever kind, which had assisted the state in sealing out, year after year, a attain number of pupils qualified to take their place I. civilised sonny would, Rader his scheme, receive their reword wading to the work they had done. (Hear, hear.) The religions bodies would have the opportunity of giving instruction as heretofore, icons panted with their own peculiar religions opiates., and would have the power of making the imparting of education subordinate to what appeared to them a paramount purpose. Hs did not think the lb/beaters would be found objecting to his proposal because their schools would be left equal freedom. And here he would observe that he adopted the distinction so finely drawn by the hon. member for Surrey, (Mr. Drummond) between " education " and " instruction." By education he meant the complete training and drawing forth of the mind. This could only be accomplished by the highly gifted teacher or the affectionate parent. (Hear.) Instruction, or the mere attainment of knowledge, was a lower task which was to be accomplished by the agency of the school and the effort. of the schoolmaster. He used the ward education, however, for instruction, as the one most commonly used to signify that which wea properly ex pressed by the word " thstruction." Bat there wee another class of prone whose co-operation was of the utmost im portance in working out any sperm of education—he meant the working people, whom children were to be instructed and trained. (Hear, hear) Unless they were with the plan—unless they coincided with it and received it kindly, and es a privilege for their children—although it should have the sanction of the church and of different religious de nominations, it would not have that effect which it was most devoutly to be wished it should have. Amongst that claw, who.* intelligence was underrated by those who had not the advantage of personal communication with them, a sturdy intellect and moral sense prevailed which recoiled from charity ; and whatever they might think of their feelings, rights, and privileges, he thought this sturdiness of intellect which was invariably the result of self-cultivation, though it might not be accompanied by enamel culture, was entitled to respect. (Hear, hear.) Thus people were indisposed to send their children to 'Minh when they found them used for the purpose of proselytism, and thus • suspicion of their intentions was generated which he regretted to say was not always unwarranted. (Hear.) It would be expected that he should say something of the cost of the experiment he pro- posed, bat It would be idle affectation to produce any figures on such a subject. He would rework, however, that &et impressions were likely to lead to a much over rated estimate of the outlay. Tbe association for eduestioa is the !musty of Lansaw made a calculation with great an, and they knead that they could supply schools for the entire odiassalon of the county by a rate of 41d. in the pound. The 111.0111111111 ef their schools for children and adults were covered by a rate of 61. in the pound. Such was the estimate for providing edocation for the entire Wentry, Oat II Rut be borne in mind that he proposed by hie Femme ahem Ito provide met sly for the deficiency of ministion. Then he asked to have a reasonable allowance made as me mo% of the diminished aims which would mak frea education end moral training, and for the enormous sot of unrestored property lost by theft. (Hear, hear.) The poorer ratepayers would also find themselves repaid, and overpaid, for what they would be called on to contribute for withers, In the instruction which would be given to their children. (Hear.) Snood this general view it weeld be absurd to attempt to calculate the expenses of the ppha with any degree of secitraey. He had already hwpaseed toe long on the patience of the house, but he would ask their allow dos for a few minutes longer. (Hear, hear.) He deposhd l , en the character of the teachers for the success of Me plus. (Hear, hear.) In that view he was warranted by a NMI observation of the noble lord at the head of her tibiae?, government, made three years when this came topic of education was under discussion. Herald• , "it has always been my view that you can never effeetually rah* education is I this country till you raise the cooditioe and prospects of the teachers of schools." (Hear, hear.) That was what he (Mr. Fox) wished to do by the Wary he recommended is the measure to the masters of free mithoole. And if any one questioned the essential Importance of the masters of schools he would refer him to the Isle of Ilea, when the suet per feet system of education to be 'found in the world existed on paper, for every parish had its school, the rate payers had a share in its menagement, and every parent was made to send his children to school; yet, notwithstanding all this, these children were in a more forlorn audition than an children in the country. (" Hear, hear," and laughter) He prayed the house to think of the cor Hi les of tIOUSOOdS upon thousands of children is this washy, to think of the Mahn which had thriven on soils from which y the had hoped it w ried en b t : r.ly * ba l l d i e k ,Vo'th a itl d s ort h hts h e e y to ne pre-eceu ides which continued to send forth their" hordes of untwisted savages" upon society, who seemed to derive from civilisa- tion itself facilities for becoming more unwholesome annoy ances to it—he would have them think of the overcrowded gaols, the hulks, and the reluctant colonies—he would have them think of the peace, quiet, and good order which wo uld spread amongst the homes of the well disposed, by the general training and moral culture of the people—he would have them look to the higher motives of patriotism, *44 nu-i ler that the intellect and moral lustre of their enuntry had been a glory superior to that even of its npre many in arts and arms—he would have them look to the higher objects, which, when the purpose. ef civil society had been accomplished, still remained to be sealised in the individual, who, by the mans which they could af ford, would be better qua to fulfil the great purpose for which ) e had been formed by • bemeleent Creator. (loud shun. The hon. gentleman *misted by moving for leave to bring in the bill. Mr. BLANEY seconded the motion. He would my but very little after the very able aid temperate speech of the boa. 'amber for Whale. BM he must remisd the house that it had bum peeved below • memaittee which bad sat as this subject in Mull 1 he 110 of Ike perdition of Woe Amin I IIIn B. INGLIS by expos sidstars had dot 'thistles, 11a 27 la Leeds, sad 1 to iddree eke Muse, sad bad oam ' his wirpriss skit sae of her Majesty's I. who ii. VIIIHRSILIA got Alp amidst much laughter, and that kis hen. hind, Hse mamba for the University of ' seemed to have Omuta Mat one of her Majesty 's would hoc ohm end stated the view taken by theripreerantent, of the motion of the bon. member for 04. km. He did act hesitate to say, that he hoped the house IMO net refs,* paneled= to the bon. member to bring In lona. Tait. lisar.r Ile did tioTTIENk flial say one" could M an Oat plass, doubt the great important* of the sobjest. And Is the next pion tee ass could say that *downs was la nth a state in Hogglend that no farther menues wen 'lnning; Mit thus was not much to be lamented is the present deficiently of means of "adoration; that there was not mash to be deplored even in the ednation which we. given ha many places, but there was still more to be de plored in the abuses of education amongst the great suer of the whose instruthm lortidlauira whose moral and rel igious tralielau so deeply no mooed the welfare of the whole Magian. (Hurl Hsu& were the ease the °sly question was whether to hes member for Oldham bad approached the subject's the fltehig spirit, whether biSwas deeply Impressed with the importance of the task which he had undertaken, sad whether the object be had in view was to provide for the better educa tion, not of a portioa—not of one ent—bet of all clams of the people. Beery one must, he thought, acknowledge that the spirit in which the boa. gentleman ape proashed the question was sae worthy of the subject, that ha bad sated fully and ably the deaciesoles of edema doe, that he seemed clearly to perceive what Ike wants were, and that whatever might be the merits of his plan, his ineliastion was to produce one which should not *hails jeering contentiont, but rather to utile the varies opinions which prevailed oa this subject. (Hear, hear.) If that was the eon, he ensidered it soffleint for the house to indium it to secede to the request of the hon. gentleman to lay his bill on the table. (Hear, beer,) As to the firthsr question of the merits of the hos. gentleman's plea, whether A would over come the difficulties which beset thls subject, whether it world be viewed favourably or otherwise by public opinion, and how it would be received by those who were at pre. sent engaged in the work of *donation, whose services that house was bound to honour—(bear, bear)—he thought it better not to enter upon that subject with the imperfect knowledge they possessed of the boa. gentleman's plan. (Hear.) lie thought that a bitter course than to offer ob. jections at that time which it saigbeafterwards appear were not founded in the nature of the plan Resit He would only say in record to one part of the hon. gentlemen's statement, that he d end from :fret in his view of the present state of the different societies for catryiag on education, sad of their failure of late years in befog able to extend it His impres sion was, that though the great effort proposed to be made three or lour years ago, did not result in @ohne an extensioa as was contemplated of by both the Chunk society, and by societies belonging to different religions bodies, yet the re sult of thew efforts as compared withithe total amount and state education a few years before would show a socsiderable increase in the means of education in this country. (Hear, bear.) Ho should cordially concur in lamenting to its intro. deletion. (Hem, hear.) Sir It. INGLIS said that whilst he gave the hon gentle man credit for the temper and ability with which be intro duced this question, he confessed he could not clearly see t►e principle on which hie propositioa rested, nor the: object at which it aimed. The hon. gentleman said that the question was so longer surrounded by the difficulties which formerly beset it, and that it was no longer the question Whether they would give or refuse education. He (St It. Inglis) rather thought the question was what was education. According to the boa. gentlemen's view education seemed to be limited to those ►ranches of instruction which terminated with man in this world, sad he omitted altogether the con sideration of his eternal distioy for which this world was bet the short and should be the most fitting preparation. He begged the hon. gentleman to reconsider his statement that the condition of education was lower in this country than ini;nyalTer in Europe. The hon. gentle. man said that this country was behind Prussia, Saxony, and France in education. Would the hon. genet man wish to ha» that sett of education in this country which ban* krth in those heihad mentioned two years ago in »volution ? (" Oh.") The h.n. member for Middlesex cried " oh," but he should like to ask that hon. gentleman if he had not reason to be glad and to thank God for the character of the people of this country on the 10th of Asil, 1848. He did not place much reliance on statistic* and mere numbers, but the moral feeling of the people of this country rell.cted the highest credit on those who produced it. The hon. gentleman than referred to domestic statistics, and compared the education of several counties in this country. Now, he happened to be connected with • pariah which would not ap pear in the return from which the hon. gentleman quoted, because the educational establishments within it were sup- ported entirely by the resident proprietors; yet be believed the education in that !wish was of the very highest and most extensive kind. Not mesh Mimes, therefore, could be . . placed on the statistics of the hon. ientleman. (Hear, hear.) He appealed to the National Society, to their catalogue of books and varied and numerous collection of maps, and begged to ask were not these evidences that secular education went on coincident with religious, and if the minds sad understandings of the pupils were not im proved as well as enlarged by that system ? (Hear, hear.) The hon. gentleman, in introducing the bill, seemed to think that there were schools when religion, and religion solely, was taught. Now he denied that such was the case, and unwed, on the contrary, that in ell schools with which he (Mr R. H. Inglis) was acquainted—and they were not a",hw —u lugs an amount of secular education was bestowed on the pupils as could be found in any of the schools on the Continent. (Hear, hear.) That was a question of fast, on which he only stated his own personal conviction and belief. (Hear, hear.) Howevi r, at that moment, at he understood there was no intention of dividing the house on the subject, he would not do more than merely recur to ' • proposition which he submitted to the government some time ago, which was, that they would make up their minds as soon as possible as to the amount of encouragement they would allow lay members, amateurs in leghlation, to bring in bills and call for the sanction of the house for them. (Laughter, and " Hear, hew.") Mr. M. MILNES said that were he to set about replying to the observations of the hon. baronet who had last ad dressed the house, it might have the effect of provoking • general discussion, which, in the present stage of the mea sure, was not at all rosemary. (Hear, hear.) He took it that on the occasion of the second reading of the bill full and ample opportunity would be afforded hon. members of expressing their opinions in reference to the important question—the establishing more universally than here tofore a system of secular education. (Hear, hear.) He felt certain the hon. gentleman who brought forward the measure, se well as many others who would support it, could not but feel aggrieved at the imputation that they disregarded religious education in the measure then sub mined to the house. However, they did consider that reli gious and secular education rested upon different grounds ; that one was capable of enlargement and susceptible of en coragemeat, whilst the other was not, and that the state might interfere with one when it could not with the other. He (Mr. Mimes) should declare that he would be prepaid to give the measure kis most full and cordial support. Mr. HUME was most anxious that no difference of opi nion should then be raised on the bill, which had been so ably introduced by his hoe. friend Mr. Fox. However, he could not refrain from declaring his conviction that his hon. friend the member for the University of Oxford bed largely misstated, probably not understanding, the nature of his hon. friend's proposition. The hon. member for the University of Oxford assumed that secular education was the sole object of the bill, whilst he (Mr. Hume), on the contrary, under stood his hon. Irina to embrace in his plan religious as well es ;secular educetien. (Hear, bear.) The hal. member for 'the University of Oxford said there existed a difference in the minds of many as to what education was. He did not know what the hen. member's definition of education might be, but he (Mr. Hume) considered that mental training which fitted a seas to be • good and useful member of society, no less fitted him for being a good and religious member. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member for the university of Oxford also alluded to state religion and state education, though his hon. friend, in introducing the measure, gave no grouad whatever for any inch supposition, but merely wished that parliament should make it compulsory ea property to supply the educational deficiency that at :present existed. (Hear, hear.) He pointed out the lamentable results of vice and crime that arose from ignorance, and suggested that perliameut should I adopt the best means of remedying suck evils, which were deplored by every man in the community who vetoed life and property, or the well being of society. (Hear, bear.) Let them remove the ignorance that at present prevailed, and substitute information in its stead ; and they might rest assured they would soon have good and moral citizens. (Hear, hear) If ever there was • time when the question of education might be brought forward with advantage, that time wee the grunt. (Hear, hear.) Mr. FLUMPTRE said : like undesired the ites.At rasa aright, schools were to be pea a resew e denominations, and that there was to Mae religiose bestrew tion—(" no, no, " from Mr. Fox)—that, in feet, religion wee to be systematiely excluded. (No.) Now, as regarded that education plan of for the great masses, he, for one, should solemnly protest against it as one to which he never could and n ould give his conseat. Mr. B. OSBORNE agreed with the noble lord at the bead her Majesty's government that they would best do their duty by the bill on the present occasion by not entering runway into Its details. In fact, the bill was so misrepresented and so misunderstood, which, he doubted not, was the cause of the misrepresentation, that they were not in • position to discuss it. However, he could not sit still without paying his tri bute of gratitude—humble as that tribute might be—to the bon. member for Oldham, for the manner, the able and statesman-like manner, in which he addressed himself to the question that evening. (Hear, hear.) It hail seldom been his (Mr. Osborne's) pleasure to have listened to a speech, that gave him such unmitigated satisfaction, • speech which he doubted not would have • most telling effect net alone upon that house, but on the country in general. (Rear, hear.) In his opinion the hon. member (Mr. Fox) had fully proved the necessity . for • universal system of ideation ; because, referring again to the ever-memorable 10th of April, it was found that the people of Middlesex, who were admittedly the most generally edu cated, were amongst the firmest anholden of law and ceder on that very day. (Hear, hear.) Els (Mr. Osborne) did not attach much importance to univereity careers. If there was a period of his life which he could wish to have blotted from hie recollestion, it was the period spent by him at Can rett:r or here, he should my, he learnt 1110111 via than in his enbeequent life. (Laughter.) Me supported the regent measure, bemuse it app smelt to the national spasm of illegal= whisk prevailed in Inlaid. hie tattles relative to the wheels ecatiame • matter el greaterdilbraity Shea the amid I1I - ,rVt1 s :1 1 , et Beeeda, wail that day WWI of wheels, se it is Mai ember to rare mea le sae Mabee Tie • .. te Ali r ea r s talitZ sp asiC as ol lA 6, wa ad NI that day es ele - A i . . eaa et fay see elleekess of elei ' .:.j,, I" , ' * sank. &Wit at sees of • 1.• lON.—AIIII A* CO - . , * Use Witt. e4 b . would 11 mutual . ss. at sediallat ea bib . 'When tr. I* • Ibizutlily this eta Woad-. • tile wailer Na "' ld i " . to iitiatdbe ' lasi year it b eletarthat " the Swam RIMS I Ebbed, mad If that wore relseed. b. bad 4... mi d e n big b oss Wt._ 4 1)...11100 1 to tbe *Mk!, 1" ). irmapeihd to dab or/sting Ile ream is dear« 1 I IIL/AVE =LIM :ad eali mein rt eetb eih ne et row TONI t r a i rsia I for AMU, tr it aAAßlC abanumm tbe gonribl eu lote lm m~ttChelees, sad the Stamm eitahlidasest ; deem _ st bier iiii - eirres -4 4•._ sog li• !wea l° supply et teaceas at th i rveqr . ram adieu the =imolai ( f spet;a sees o f Ink Ms blose se WSJ Oh elm* require that they IbehtereaseL" la the ~phis I elm sesedelesuessmes sPasor alma esd Maeda et t h e esmaittee et aoudad, aid is the very • Mr. NAPIBR theaked the hon. member for Oldham for bringing in the bill, as it would give the house an opport e „ nity of diaewaing the *piton of national education ; and he trusts/ whenever the question amt before the house it would be treated in a spirit similar to that in which it hid been introduced on that evening. (Hoar, hear.) In ranch of the massacre be concurred, but in other parts of it, per. haps the most important, he should join issue with the hon. member who latrodueed it. Mr. COCKBURN said they were all agreed that st the promo, stage of the bill they should not enter into a discus. aka of its details. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Cockburn) felt WWI opus es a went 'opposer? of the bill to enter his soled the view that had been taken a it by the =ember for th e Univenity of Oa'orel. That hon. gentlemsanpraintedthemeasure as one having for its ohjest the ednoattoa of youth as regarded secular mitt en. without rellereatte to the ell•importont considerations °fe e hereafter Mote. Now he (Mr. Cockburn) did not el,' the googlies at all in that light; and it struck him that his hos. friend Mr. Fox was as deeply impress, d with the *sues. sky of religious education es any hon. member in that hous e . (Hear, hear.) Bat why did he separate religious from tem. bar education ? For this mason, that in the present state of religious opinion, with the number and variety of religions seems that prevailed, it would he totally impossible to coin. bile religious and secular education, or, In other words, church and state education in one measure. (hear, hear) Mr. MILES said that nothing could do more rood the e general discussion ea the whole system of education, sad that it would be wise to settle the matter finally by see a whammed. Ms. LAW said that it seemed on all hand, to be admitted that the bill which was asked to be introduced would have a beneficial effect. He would not oppose the hood action of site bill, bat he would reserve his opinion as regartltd its principles until a future period. Mr. NEWDEOATH wished to have some ttplanttioa front the hose. gentleman who wished to introduce the hL u to how the deficiency was to be supplied. - _ , r Mr. W. J. FOX said that his plan was frunded on a general view of the deficiency of euucation in th e d i ff erent licalities in this country. The materials for auppl, ing m e deficiency had been fully exhibited by the commutes. and it was no difficult matter to ascertain what degree nt defiiesey it would be necessary to supply. lie would allow esti county to establist. its own plan. As fur the eiptrie which was spoken so much about, be could rot Re why they who spared not spensa in keeping up uo anti , at monarchy and an extravagant fleet should not be ,b.e to teach their own children. (Hear, bear.) Leave was then grauted to brine in the bill. COUNTY COURTS BILL. Mr. FITZROY mured for fears to bring ;n a bib ext'n. ding to 501. the jurisdiction of county mars. The hon. member argued that the results of the smith! shtntnt county courts had been eminently succtsuu!, sml tEt9rce , l the propriety of rendering justice cheep whenever ir.c tieable. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he should offer to opposition to the introduction of the bill, although he ea tertaintd many objections to enteuding th e powen o f t h e county courts; serious objections attended the working of those courts, and it was a dangertus expericLeut to give theca jurisdiction ever large sums. Sir J. PECHELL believed the mevure watt much culled for. Mr. HENLEY considered that by extending the principle to 601. they would endanger the sachets of the experiment now in progreu In regard to debts up to 201. Sir G. GREY agreed with the Attorney-General that it was doubtful whether the principle of the county carts could be extended to SOL ; but they would be much better able to discus that guistiin at the second readb.g. Very much would depend upon the nature of the appeal to lit provided. If it were an appeal to the super.or courts, the whole value of the measure as regarded economy and speedy adjudieati,n would be sacrificed. Lord D. STUART supported the measure; but Isehered that even in the county courts justice was cot made sat. Meetly cheap and accesuble. lir. H. BERKELEY opposed the bill. MULLINGS, as a retired legal practitioner, s.;, ported the bill, explaining the inerMons items of ebui r i which at present swelled the attorneys' bills of costs in t tried in the superior courts. _ _ Mr. WILLIAMS also approved of the motial, on wt. leave was green, and the bill brought in. BRICK AND TIMBER DUTY. Mr. Hrlai,nnlinding the house of the notice he rim at the commencement of the session, so soon as he hear: that there was a surplus in the Exchequer, paid he r ••• pursuance of that notice to move "that this house, - into consideration the condi:ion of the cottages of ire labourers of this kingdom, and the want of adequ..te accom modation for their families, is of opinion that a ilraaLati should in future be allowed ea the brick. and titer, r employed in the construction of cottages, the reut of which shall be nude r 41. per aue.uni, as a meats of lessening the expense of their ericlion Reports from every portion of the county showed bow very nosh the working population stood in need of assatnec in We respect ; how much they bad been neglected by the government, to the injury of their health and comfort. The expense of building cottage!, owing to the duty on timber and bricks, was suck as to make it impossible :or the labour-- fug man to enjoy those physical comforts which on sl: hands it wu admitted tended greatly to elevate his moral slid tow' state. Every gentleman acquainted with manatacturinz towns, or with the habitations of the rwal labourer, must Ilael satisfied that that class on which depended the tr..s. parity of the nation had been grossly neglected, and :hot now, when the government were expending large sums 't unitary messures, some step ought to be taken to procure for them decant and comfortable homes, at a rate within their mesas. Looking to the inducements which the la bourer had to take him from home when that home wu not comfortable—looking to the quantity of spiritutu. liquors consumed in England, amc unties to between 2 , 1.0.0,000 and 30,000,000 gallons, and the use of which no doubt en gendered habits of idleness and worse—he did say it th• honed the government and the legislature to lighten these hardens which acted as a direct preventive to the building of comfortable abodes for the working classes in which they might enjoy their own fireside, instead of abandoning their families for the public house. Cottages such as he wished to see occupied by the labouring classes could not be built now for less than 301. or 601. The duty on foreign timber he should wish to see taken elf alto gether, not only for the take of the very poor, but also for the farmer anti agricultural labourer, that they might be the better able to compete with the foreigaer. In fact timber and bricks ought to nil in the same boat. (A laugh.) He might be asked what secu• rity he could give that a cottage would not he ' let for 31, in order to get the drawback, and raised to -I*-, or 51. the year after. His reply was, that the only way to get rid of the difficulty was to take the duty off bricks as well altogether. (Laughter.) lie, therefore, wished the ' house to express an opinion on that subject. The follow. iag was the amount of net receipts for the last ten yens : Years. England. Scotland, Ireland. 1910 1601 431,236 1812 1843 30%17 7 1344 1843 11149 1947 1148 180.. 444,352 ...... 11.900 44,1111,190 £,134,423 Nil The average amount of the brick duty dump that pfri , .l. according to the Excise return, was, fur England, 481, t. A year, and for Scotland 13. 4421 ., while the expense of collie.: log it was2o per cent. Take that 20 per cent. off the f nee. and they conferred at once a boon upon the poor mac. The removal of those duties was necessary to r 'try out the principle which had dictred the removal, in 1 , 42. of other taxes which pressed upon the industry and cum!, cr. ot the labouring classes. He would, for the reasons he had mind. omit from the notion the words " the rent of whist sha:, be under 41. a year." Mr. LABOUCRERE observed that the hen. gectlemin bad explained in his speech, though not in the terms of his motion, that his object was to obtain an expression of °pitman on the part of the louse that it was desirable to remit the duty en bricks, and also the duty on timber. Doting the first diseassith of the evening a feeling had, however, bees szpremed and acquiesced in that until the financial sehone thegovernment for the year was brought forward. wh,th Would lbo in a few days, they could no' properly er.-ertn• any proposal for the remission of duties. 13. v. it OM lignife wen prepared to sonde to the motion, sod say that the best mode of dealiWg with any surplus revenue there might be, was to appropriate it to the remiss:on of the duties on timber and bricks, be should !till demur to the mode in which that remission was proposed to be caned out, as calculated to open the door to fraud. Far, benits the objection that many houses might be included in the term cottages, which were fitted for the naintation of com paratively wealthy families. how was it possible to snarl against bricks upon which the drawback nal he. a claimed sad obtained, as being intended for the buildieg et c mash s, being employed for the auction et building' et en rowels different nature ? As, however, it would be ineor , stent with his i'.uty to offer any opinion on the se blect until the financial statement was beim the house be would not argue the expediency or inexpediency of remitting those duties, or how far their claims Inv."n derated over others. (lieu.) Mr. DRUMMOND could not admit that the riserve which might be proper in a minister previous to the esp. , - sition of the budget was binding on members general: , s :K -eense when the financial statement was on ce made up, it hopeless to urge the remission of any tax . lie behest,' the house generally was not aware of the iajarioas wanner of which this tax operated in diminishing the comforts lit the lh boort rs. lie was aware that the beef &oldie remission set.' be small in many parts of the tonally, but in those dv.o ifstri to which he alluded it would be very great lit rt. therefore, for the motion, he did so believing that the it w end confer a considerable, though a partial, benefit, on culturiate. (Rear.) imprint, d the motion, believiog f . eow portent* that the duty on bricks operated most tejunoi...i not only on the comports , but on the health a nd morays the a gricultural labourer. Lord C. HAMILTON gave credit to the hen. =alibi! (or Montrose for the great public services lie had r endtreo. but regretted tkitt he had taken up this subject in sop r. i . • manner. lie was as anxious all an i condition of the working clause in all respects, 1111( A. .e proposition before the house would lead to evasions ,sadopen the door to numerous frauds, he must oppose it. Mr. MITCHELL entirely differed from the Tattoos I , signed by the right hon. gentleman the President et she Board of Trade, for desiring to postpone the present ale. Lien, beanie if then was no repeal of Mass effected 14to" t I 1 I , ' f~ i ,~