The Express. — London, England, 1850-03-02 00:00:00

Ir - - PEKIAL AAMENT. ROUSE OF LORDS.—FRIDAT, MAICII 1. The Lotto CW10134.011 took hi mat at five o'clock. UMPIRES APPOINTMENT BILL. Lord PORTMAN moved the resoad radios of this bill, the object 01 wide& was to establish supine betwe u en att. voila end h ar sdag tenants, and give to the jdges of mus courts Ike appointment of suck unpins when •a ty pplied to for that papas. The LORD CHANCELLOR (wbo was not disdain), board) wee O R aderstood express I hops that the table MG wend sot pas the bill la its present WM. Lord BROUGHAM tad that no drabs seem damp la the law was wasted, but the present bill would a llest the whole law relative to awards. It Aosta b sonflard a the shied which It was iateaded to effert, and he waddling'. mead the noble lad's withdrawing it fee the pretest, with a dew w 5 as bang remodelled. The bill tbs. widdrawa. DISTRAINING FOR RENTS (SCOTLAND) BILL. Lord BROUGHAM moved he a select committee to ma. elder Mis bill with a view to die Istrodastion of sane amend- MIA/di-WIGHT (IRELAND). The Mamas of LONDONDERRY presented a potties from Coler.ues, sighed by must farmers, praybi tee Wiese to pas. an act which would secure to tenant arum Pall compeseatioa for ay improvresenu which they might West is 'Asir mtate., and she the benefit of tenant-right, white would dad them security for the investment of time eapitaL Is resealing this petition he thought it tight to lay a few D orris with ref/none to tise memo state of the county of Down. The mitosis* morel obligsticn canted Delve's the loadlord and muss% es th e part of the hew to note the is of the latter as jest red equitable a. possible. He did sot bring this question ilierward from say pommel meths. It wee, however, wee knows that seremblegee had lakes plas is the County of Down, L within the last Ul meths, wash led mated pest biter sew diecastent. The trot of them objet a d meetescal br its declaration le Lord Clarealse t h e of th e toasty ; thee came a seem of ensetegs es the a of the este Is aid ; seat ems Me MoKety's visit. the good often of white were big fit, vibes the samara affair of Dolly's Bees Moses& Ada en a peat may meeting , was held be lee pestestimder The rashes stela e IWO of a way Mika asseriZelt s sad esthetes ate were te the mon log to senor gemeles, meta see lost a i s s u "Klieg foe rellsedem et nab esi hey el Osage. Ws swag asy peers( dimeent gaveled amnia he the mil mines Abase make wen held at air presbyteries seam esliated sem wry seltinA spear. ad the aewsperen bed lent up the salesties. The twists were see satisfied Mk what the landlords said nap meld do as t. the Mani= of rate, GM the] leek the Me Ye their own lands, stating that if they did set elide eat they wanted they would met pay Mir rests. Whys might as well conflate the property at oboe es skit ash a mars. It as the sleet st somas cad sommille and, strap to say. it cam hem that port of band elms the most posestal and tadestrous farmer were to be had. He reed a Ism the Mtn day hem a pesigledes Kolnwelea. e•Wpest bin to retool earteta sememeele whisk be bed Mess be masa to allege that Mess atinisten me preens. that so rests iambi C lab g7v. serileted it • bark of the law, whisk tbsp wore Mead le weer fir. Bat Me was maser* hoer whisk be had sees esesheil, and what was 'lnset Misr lemptibis se reed to the lease ; is het he moll weasel it, bat Is deatis jestia el Illerelf. wee dated sad was es Mews My Lord,—l am ecqueses2Trity Rev. W. Debits, to Wens you that he has read be the palls Josiah a apses if the mending" in the boas Of peels ea Friday menu lest, sad therfee bees eerie sepaistied with e t z h r e=des whisk it pleased liras 1~ to Me is the reptiestiom tidal to Mae er Pine•Sl Odangal. sentliest Matreass okay KM mein 'M em In = e pr So the wale MernMes, I set detested to emismairbe to yes thet Kr. Debbie, many of his Isellires, reembled untlimayed by le if bong calla elte arra he bares erate a beast of oriels. eft So to sepses, and impelled hi year losishies dad es to Oa Puha MadllemUseall upon your lordship to 'MI MIL end either wer mks good your awertfis. abode you dedne saber Ktreasive, pa shall stand coalsiedi of atria alamisted a body Olen as heal as any wade the aspire costaissoni Mee, essesiess ef the reminds of reakwerds and aids, ea malty reaurnees of your smiles NA 11011 frowns, cad yew with assaidgeted sewn your imperst attempt to grub their indepandeat Manes lasgb from Lord Eroughan) My leek beware in ti (Load me ; ma te ul r the wadded take sere yen dear reap the whirlwind, and sigh le Ms ler theablillag peruse, which is all to which either is law, equity, or justice, you me entitled tor your lend." The sere marquis then reed another letter from a Mil eage, iisserlbing various sets of intimidation which bed been pulsed epos tenants opposed to the team right meanest. In one car a ballet had been fired is et a bed room window, and a met and his wife Is bed had nar rowly escaped sigesinatios. Lord BROUGHAM had the other day mpased his string repeat's& of a latter written by a enema pale um to Ms sale Mead, bat that letter was anise to the letter Midi bad been reed. Any compositien caw pesserk able he lases milts: abuse sad low Seeley, gesso unwary • of a pWeera, eon =worthy of as *Mesta roes , mere ass* saweethy of a Warr of the park hail ewer lewd. If tam prase Ilesegbe Met ease would Rae any sale lord swerve EMI the pedgemasse of what he omedisesd his daty, they wall dad themseess bitterl derived fer. whatever maks might be laid to the accoun t of their lordship, that r yielding to eager Mentalist was the hat thing of which they could be eased. The sad of DEVON wished it to be stmlentood that the two trap sought for by the metiers were of a very dif fer/at Masser. No objection mad be made to grating eempartiss km eapital invented ia land, and he should be Kes7 le WIN aorbsag which would, sin security to the Itolllo/1110MONMits tenant tor the outlay of amend in the Impeament of land. Bet that was a totally different ilia what they are pleased to call tenant right, additiese lordship would rest U they stastateed it. If • a least bell 140 MIS at • fair neat, sad chose to go away. . the brelleekeesetd be bound rump he estate at so many psis' Maas, altleoush the party misht ban bad so lease Meer& _ • Theire of RODEN agreed with the noble earl who had Ise spews ; bet he male tared that ell good lasdlods . • mis Irk segang tssese empie esespeortiea. He de nied tat the meaty el Dews was in the disturbed stets re plassed by the noble samais, er est then vas an mad appeeitin the maim ol rem. He seests . . leiter Nalli by the sale marquis te be a nest Mem' end es/gee Vat. and OS such to be utterly estabated. The Kraig of LONDONDERRY dosed that ha bed - is. sold 'mike' distespsetfel of the clergy of the meth of I. baba. Re Mew them quite as well as the Rohr earl, bat thee were Meek sheep is every Md. • The of MOCIFICASHELL hadatimiosil the Noble surqu m ie sae a wbeiseele charge whet the ponytails sla bet now rat he led retrected kis wor mead of finch unaided is to his real measkag hem. Priem sassed to be laid es the to Their Wed* 'dimmed at 20 Maass pit 6 Veen. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FaIDAT, )(Awn 1. Then/mass wok the their shortly berm 4 Weleek. PRIVATE BUSIN - EBB. oure.—Thiadallt sad ZanlskElea Railway Iscosa &IL PUBLIC MINIM. prifriois FACTONT Lesors.—ByDENISON, trees va rious please is Yorkshire, for ea easiest tea hea rs MI. AOSICVLTVIAL PSOTICTIOII.—By Er. B. DENISON, Oita Isereshoreest, is Weer of *h prima*. Taxes ow Kowtows.— By Er. LUSRINOTON, trim Leeks awl Wombats? ; by Mr. MO WATT, fro. Teen; Coked THOMPSON, tress Yorkshire ,• awl Mr. 11. GIBSON Wiese set heard), Is lama of the repeal of these toles. Lens Istraorsoissit (Izawrs).—By Er. COBDEN, Baia oho leas of Casa, sat karoM. of Upper sal Lower bask, Woad, is terser of a law to presses the occupen M lead is the feWniest et the poetises el their improve- IBMs is the eel/ • 1113 O'CONNOR LAND COMPANY. Bit D. HALL Tom plummet to make, a pews two =ram signed by 28 abettor is the Level amd t he other by 46 albums is the flain's End ▪ mmfillibling of the made* of Mr. O'Connor is re• lames w the Lod same. He bed forwer4ed a copy of the polities, to the hen. member kr Nottingham, to when he proposed se ask a question on the WON, bat biped that be shield relnda from making emy eemment ea the inertias of the pedelesess, se ttab, at all late the nenla of the ow see did he repose ems to mate the minus= of the peetioes as he war. SaSilllN to meld toying solthing whisk might pm vim to angry disofeel He wield limply mem that est el the petitions be tea b y the dark at the table. leveed hen. peer; 'list is the pram i Skil. lIIALL. weld lases It le the dig gaper as 111111 11l the:Xmas st the Fra p = tisalsgles fig` t up, the dolt t swell Sae wawa atemben Mal el weli■ lifs. O'Co•aw wee the deist premelow e allottees of the Mate et Wes lad •Oat day i t latia federal to Isla the employ by the Marls, eialaseele ota. Weed la serails; Wain writtea by Mr. OVaamsr, and ereaby ids la hie p ar tie " Northam Iliar"— sedia pealed to the leastwes of the to the he of we eliene• ler whisk W. 111..ree=g3 two ewes of geed had, • eneketable levee, sad 161. ; three shires three awes of I. boom, rod 271.10.. ; sad of bar therm leer ems el leo% a hse e nd SO ; the bow sad had to he allatted l a L taws ea wadi milldam es &geld made then to brew freeheilerb sad to live is rampantly. lOW fort sad tedegeadease ea the ratites of their ewe ere...”— that they ha sealdease 0 Coarser, ham*" bat hes beeriest sad a sea eleseriderable esperiesee, sad la ea evil hear *owed thearelves to be detailed by Ith repo eastatitas, mad to leave their empleyareat to settle ea them elleassate that se erne at the may promisor node to thou by S ir. O'Coeshor had hen MOW ; that tie per demo were Worsted before they trek pommies et tbsir allotment@ that they would be well tilled sad zaasered, and prepared for grapple', but that the amount of Meer be stowed es the had wee wholly inoulleient, sad that the WWI charged mat exorbitaetly for all that had ret tl = l ; that, I. o.llllltqueoes, their ammo had bees az hauled that they had bees going warn ever dace ; that THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EYI4INING, MARCH 2, ' 1850. ellrourathisishoicattlawwashouelypenu.defd eint oo Se to o hn sab t t end tZ b t e s s t i Ogee the amass asessaariso of life ; e isT , meld peon, so industry had beat ees on tote awl sew the ffrosed. o =7 of ?: "V et "I * °I sm ankisee gist geom./a Mbigloo se e so dy ~ teem • sleets aegis et &thin ; their the pteemety MS *lay nog is Mr. O'Camier, mad, as they believed, bed bees waving w his, gel was his sheoletely is law; that be had never lima enawymaa of the elletentals os the petitimers. e=iild ; but had, ea the natirry,exeraind the power el as • landlord, theugh, es the petitionen believed, Signally ; that aadl the sped gibe semesittes of 'the Home of to inquire into the sib. jest. they wereC.•=rlll:l64lltagebeese wee ; that "Shoat 'Spathe the gement esearegy of the accounts of Itsgen. Gley mod Fialaboa, the mean, &ben WU one item they did set laissetomd, that was, the ant which was stated by them Whale hem advisee* be sad. It was stated is their asestmla that Kr. O'Caareva bed paid 1,4001. to the alleesseas the estate, but boa imeskiee the Whimsies had sot sontehe that mode hoes hems ft hems they sushi meretbee MX lad hem Mewed es that acccest. The Megabit by saying the hags to take their ere aisd le devin mem he relieving theta heel semeausame winos, threagh ao Ink of their own, Se as Keel misty. sae by a comegagem of erieerwies to *hula behriaMea as to the true = F e the estate sod the accapien, with the view of wham" up Ka midertgiiag. Sir. B. MALL weal sow psi the veggies of which be bed Ss the ben. member for Nottingham mdse. The be globs(' to patwee whisker the boa. mad lamed ragesiber blended to dam to the alleges* the tide he IdseeK held is this propetty, or to take any steps to wind lap theaseens, either by means of a hill or otherwise, gad west wr the amount, he calcalatiod. would he retuned to each of the 7,000 thenholtiers. (Hear, hear.) Mr. F. O'CONNOR would Int answer the hon. baronet's quid" sad thee proceed to reply to the statoment, cm coined is the ratio& Mr. rose to order—be wished to know whether that home woo prepared to eater tato say or swag polities whisk might be presented nagestieg ell the Rpm Whom el past man (Hear.) If the Ems et Gammeme were to Mime the arbiters in tile Mee dispafed secnenta &Slag eat of each speculations where was ,to be the limit T (amen.) The SPELLER said it was the meads when a petitin zs is kidessed reflecting ea the chancier of any hoe, a M hadalge but somber solar me to allow him to live gay oeplemation or Smoke las debase he might think emery. (Haag.) (Haag.) Bet with 'epodes the goedies. whisleked ben put by the boa. member he liaryletnne, be bsd mask I doubt wiwther they were sulegybe ender —( beer)--Mesieshl se they related am to any smeowe before the house, end, striae/ epeakesg, all seestleas_pat la that home sheabi refer to some ammo bakes it. ( H ome.) Mr B. HALL would the esalas himself to thie, whisk he sabsitted would be strictly la wire It would be Neel leatid that there was s hill iatrebassd in 1848 in reference to this land eampsay, whisk bill we. refereed to a select com mittee, bet was sot afterwards proceeded with. He wished to know if It was the intaglio of the km member to resew eay measure of that kind is the prograt woks, se to take say steps to wind up this wham ? (Heim) Kr. F. O'CONNOR after observiag that he ought to be allowed to miSi, ening that the intends of 7,000 persons were iasimil eta that he had smut large gases eat el hie ow. psibst him Me asmaittes sat is 1848, La endeavour. inw Mime the albums earagisrali registered sad sad legalised, that the matter had been for sem time before the await el Olen% Beach; and was sot yet settled. It we. hie bisallea, es he had stated before the committee, to hand owe the property to trustees, sad he bad named the noble lord the smother for Bath (Lord Deana) and the hon. mem ber he Reakdale (Kr. S. Crawford) ss those trashes., but the hem. member for Rochdale told him that he bad ap plied to the Roble lord (Daman) oa the subject, who re fused ea bare anything to do with the matter. (Laughter.) The pedlisa stated that great hopes were held out to the alletems. sad that they ingested to do more than they bad yet been able to do, and that the land and house were not is so good a condition es promised. All he could say was that for the two estates in question be had paid from ell. to 501. an one ; that the coe' bad been built of the best materials , th e slates havin g nt him 81. • thousand ; that the timber was of the beet description ; and that the land had been well manned and highly culti vated, sad that be had received no rest for two years sad a half. He had takes two soble lords—Lord Talbot sad the noble member for 10Jan—smother with the members for Dumfries and Rochdale, down to the estates while the cam. mitts' was Slimy, sad they all expressed their astonishment at seeing them is such a high state of cultivation. With regard to the allegation that he had dewed oily 8001., instead of 1,4001., at linigge.ead, as reported by the auditors, it was quite impossible to ascertain by going from home to house, what he had paid. His reply, however, to that statemeat was, that every ono of the original &Settees at Sniggs-ead got Isis aid money of 51, sad ease of themliad glace sold their property at 1201. bonus on each allotment. Hi would now road the report of the committee. (" Order, order.") TbiSPEAKER tomidered the bon. gentleman war going boyead the Sadie of an exphaatioa of the allegations of the petides, Ia reading the report. lir. F. O'CONNOR named. Be bad been for eve years oneutected with the hod compaay, be had spat 8,0001. of his own mow la it, and bad devoted the whole of his time, day sad night, in promoting its mama. The amounts had beea -Milted to goverameat andltore, who bad reported is his Seaga; and at the trial which took place the other day, no- Slag had been proved ggaisst his character; sad sow he Shod anybody to charge him with having been guilty, the whole vans g kis life, of committing me dig- Intsa, or ungentlemaaly sat. (Hoer, hoar.) It wig ne=ifie wondered at that those who were desirous of keep ing dews and oppressing the working classes should look era him with hatred, and that. as far as they could make IA the land company should be the reviled of all revilers. Grow charges were made against him is the isemmittee, and every intakes.* who went into the seminar west Mars with the stressed prejudices agaied ic hi t li si b e at, thank God, they left the eaSmittee with these reamed. Straw as it might seem, be could assure beam that it wee nevertheless a het, that not a trades if the 130,0001. ova came into his beds, it all passed through the &mean into the beaker's pessimism, sad every mesh* tad oetey book relating to it ens seemed before KW seemblitem Sir B. HALL repeated his quids& abeam the boa. member we. prepared himself to being is a bill as mew mended by the committee, or to bring under as ermilera anon of the home say massare for wiadlmg aptbe sebum. f Kr. F. O'CONNOR—a/though the mesuillse meek that be bad kept the asesuats, *el said be had baap tbss is away radios scabs & than ter MinasE. (" Wes ef eb" a:d se i na usetica.) He had- be Vying M gm the esspray eon y regblered, but the ham. basset asked him bow he swat to pay bask these idleness who were met located. (" Cries if ardor" omit aptest Asa.) Sir B. HALLasid the qmotion he rind was whether Ste Um member (Kr. O'Osester) istsaded tairedues a bill Wthe poomat segos el parliament tar the parries at wind lag up the company, which the ammittes d the Hems of Commas bad declared to be illegal, sad of whisk the lard Chid Beam had mare sweetly egelleeei the tome 'Oaks. Mem, bear.) hr. F. O'CONNOR did intend to wind up the esesem, sad if the noble lord (Lord J. Barill) would give bin am; sauly day he M r . O'Comor) timid take the den alty at 'bring is a fedi as wind up the company, = wash his hugs the tastier altogether. (Langton.) Mr. HUME cemeldered that whoa the modest of a maw bar MUM hews had Mem mandated and Wad. to matinee le wettest* charges, as had been done that night by the Ma baronet and la the petitions he bad pneantod—(ordin). The subject then dropped, and the two petitions were "demi to Us es the table. KIDDERMINSTER ELECTION. Mho SPEAKER Militated that the petitioners egged adsat Se lategestion had emend into the required o promeate their petition. THE BORNEO PIRACY. dd~wLord D. STUART gave mike that be should, as Mon. abOVS far a return of the despatches rom Sir Female dated the 18th September, 1519, and received cm thei Kg January. Mv. HUME eomplaing that the returns which had bees =to him with respect to Sarawak, Welts, and the Wash, had sot bees printed, and said that be with, ea 'fogey, move that they be produced forthwith. It maned to him that there ens a desire to withheld them (Hoar, bear.) NAVIGATION RETURNS. Mr. NEWDEGATE referred to curtain diesemeasies in the maim of the trade between the smash entered lawards sad outw ards the tonnage, sad asked foe saes.. Enka. ddr, LABOUCHERE was not prepared to explain, bev ies seadved no notice ea the subject, but if the bon. pails. mem would state to him privately the points to which his silmliss had bees dimmest% the neemary inquiries should be mak. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. . Throat liiiiill2lll, la mower to a qrsestion, said he would submit a bill to the Masa es Thursday ant for the purpose of enteadiag the nisei establishments of Bealland. Mr. P. EIROPI imbed whoa the Distress Advisees (Indead) Llol Melba be 'paseasiederkh, end wished to hum wltedMr fl mg* 1W immell) was aware that great desteastiest of lib isms Miring ghee in the wastaa districts of Weed is easesvienie of the total ioadsquasy of the re lief raided seder the peer kw. and whether le lad est reestent a latte Elie reardiess of the Boarit sake, deemiblag the destitute coadition of the people them t Lord J. RUSSELL add the business for Walley would be the committee of supply on the aavy Oimates, provided the First Lord of the Admiralty was war eamigh to attend, sad afterwards the Mercantile Marine and the Merchant Seamen' Pond Bills. The bill in reference to the advances to the distressed anions in Ireland would not be proceeded with until the Chancellor of the Ezehequer had brought heward his Madam In same to a question from Mr. Hums, Lard J. RUSSELL said that be proposed to go on with the Australian Colonies MU on Friday eight. Mr. COBDEN was anxious to know for certain whether the Navy :Lamar" wheats hod beers tiled for that monies (Friday). would mese on on Monday ? Leal J. BUBBKIL said that his right hon. Mend the Ant Lard of the Adebeity was absent from the house =Warm end he was not able to state whether be punt ea MatAsy night. PARLIAMENTARY VOTERS . (IRSKILND) BILL: The boosoweat tato sonnaltete on this MIL . Enatra. ia ke tbis eilluee thidr. ons Lain PeoP 4' leta• Mr B. A. HAMILTON as moved sa amendeseat the in- Waal a the isibeeriag words Is tinselly's: " addable those qualified bY law to meats end vote at say election a a knight of thin 'hire in Inland to virtue et say Tanan a= not requiring campaign." Mr. BRIGHT said he Arad like la asserkdo- Ike views of the governseat apes So elanee before my sides altera tion' it was mall. Mr. ILLTCHILL Amend that la potato( lost the bill did not afoot Ske_frashies wllek the hall t e stSbeffor the University ellaffina (Kr. lissaltaa) d gond by this proviso There was, therefore, no ekliestioa to add the prorW, if the hens wished to guard Mast ell esblgulty. Mr. ROEBUCK asked what was the question before the how? Mr. F. MACKENZIE sail the asendanat of the hon. P for the Univenity of Dahlia was cashed in the plainest toms, easy of comprehension. Mr. ROEBUCK said • do ammidessais to the bill steed ea the paper, and that it wee amessey to oadentaad each dirdnaly, according se it was proposed. Sir W. SOMERVILLE stated Maths amendment fight be adopted, insmuch es the bill did not propose to sleet any franchise la Ireland, except die franchise requiring occupation. Sir F. THESIOER said the bill penned to sweep away all the sliding franchises In Ireland, for the purpose of neonstrueting a representative system in that country. The parties already registers:l, multi have a prim fatit right to be registered under it, not according to the qualification they now pos its& bet wording to no qualificatioa to be estab lished by the bill ; and, therefore, it as peered to him that at the mast of the consideration of the subject, it was important for the committee to decide whether they would adopt the view put forward by the government, namely, that the Wang freachises were only to remain is flu as they tionstitatied a prim /ken right to register Rader the bill, or whether they woad adept the words now by theism. seember In the University of Dublin, 4 M ilrett he proposed to creaks, all existing rights, sad sought to supply a deflateasy which had arisen la the som ber of MOMOIIII is Ireland by mantil la : 3 . a east log institution certain new rights to be este wader the bill. It woo quite obvious Sat if any looked thekill ea saw prorated, it appeared to be the Wean= Mite p veresest entirely to clear the . ground fah the purpose of resessinetiag • sew feesohise ; sad while le adman' theitg from a ttSed slate of the repreastatisa la Inland, ft was sessmegy that dim should bo kneeholes the of meeting addido vetoes, yet the geselies fier committee to determine would be, what meths best mode ia whisk that end end purpose was to be elkshoil Now, the bill, es framed, almost annihilated the digthesties whisk beet the earliest period, had prevailed ia Ireland with meg to the bounty end borough qualifies dn. Having edged into as biological detail of whet had n te o t rs eo t tase lespealies tremble* bills for Ireland, the ho sanna, wed es to say that he came forward foe the pupas of eamairdage the view of that how. member, and of hulas the - Mee rammed; and he was pun milady saziess that, ups a measure of so much hapormass as the priced, every step should be module' with the slum unties and deliberation. (Rear.) The eyes* of the sohle lord (Lord J. Russell) last night seemed to intimate straggly that it was not deg. rable to intrados' any legislative measure which might overate as a substitute for the Reform Bill ; but that, if they were to legislate on the subject, it should be as supplemen tary to that bill. The question for decision wag—whether the house would now proceed to legislate by clearing away the ground and reconstructing something which would be a substitute for the Reform Bill, r whether they would graft on existing institutions than measures which the exigencies of the session particularly required. The mess bill in troduced a ass of constituents which it would be very dan gerous Indeed to entrust with the fralchiee. The hen. mem ber for the University of Dahlia was proposing to con tinue the existing franthue ; and, if the amendment were adopted, then the hose wOuld have to consider Mw ' the adlaitad deficiency of the existing constituency was M be supplied. Were they to proceed in the autism miner suggested yesterday ? or were they to sweep away every thing, and build anew according to a new system? The government proposed to include in the registration all who were rated to the extent of 81. a year. What, than, was the extent of the new Minty constituency yid* would be raised under the present bill ? AU were speed that sew change in the constituency of Ireland was Mama wow eery, and his anxious desire was, to Wise up Mil a free and independent constituency in that country 1111.Wite• all hands highly desirable. Sir G. GREY quits speed with the his. mil Mimosa gentlemen at the onclusion of his speech, that if Kim gem me opposition to en seundesat it had Setter be burled. Tney had had a ranging from padsd a g = fi which might have been delivered at the snood a eh* bill, or at the third, bat which had nothing le win o th the question now before the committee. The sawkweett pro posed to leeks clear that which was faskiellia. He was not penned to admit that it was lskigmen, but they wen quits ready to admit the weeds proposal la the emend mut, cad, they being agreed to, he hoped they would be Inserted. TM words as proposed were them speed Mad itiOrbli in the dame. Mr. HENLEY then moved that is dams 1 the word " occupy" be struck out, and that the following words be substituted "shall have occupied as "meat or owner fee a period of at least two years before the let of July in sash yes." and silo to add the word,. " sad shall have besa rated for all rates made during that period." The ATTORNEY-OBNERAL said it me well to mdss stead what the effect of the assondiant would be. By the bill every occupier of land, rated to the relief of the poor, who had been rated to the lest rate, end who had paid the last rate before a 'snails period wee entitled to vote. Adding the wards" as taunt or owner " would have a Goa eiderable effect, sad it would create great confueles sad uncertainty in the reeking banisters' courts. The great object of this bill was, amain other things, to provost • eaglet , of dubious. Bit F. THESIOER thought the em mitten was mice indebted to his boa. and learned friend for the explanation, because now it wee evident that the object of the government was that persons who won neither tenants nor owners, bat were merely oecupiese, shesid be entitled to vote. (The Attornoyaearral—"No.") The hon. and loused geada• ma said he did NA ay that, but did he mesa it, sad if he did not mesa it, thea let his insert these words. Uadse the whisk larked under the espreselos " esespier," f rey b4 V ream to distrust the intentions of goveramast. After a few words in esplualioa from the Amain- Kr. LAW mid he dna& there should be as lableke or ambigty In the bill; he thought the weeds "e Isaaat or moor shogeld le fatrotemi, sad he shalt astport his Ma. Mead, if be look the Besse of the bolus oa the subject Mr. BILIGET gold it bed appeared to evidence burps a tary comaittes, that certain landed gainsims la r i re l l i and au.a os some missions had mewed as less them IMO 1 notices to quit ea their tenants, sad that ea curtain mastal it was the custom of the agent to serve a masa MC on every testae envy six maths If that wire It me one whisk was much to be deplored. In this meanie they must not allow the introduction of weeds that mid can" my dietitto la parliamentery • quibble in Irish caste by which the asseihe b Ire might be done away with. Mr. SHELL thought he weld menthe as illeitsatiea of how the proposed eassertmest would allial the beaohise. He was mambo, fee the county of Loath, end is that county there were saunter of men win monad had es • mesa- Ina, they paid so rest, sad they MI Men ds pessemion above 20 years. Now, lithe wok "as tussle err mous " were inserted in the bill, them aoa would be exanded, for they could not be said to be ether. Mr. HENLEY denial that the lattodaetioa of those words would have the effect of dwindling dowa the sow oilman. There wen similar words in the English Reform Bill, red there had bead judicial decisions given Olt them over mad over again, is that he believed no dispute could arise. Mr. HATCHILLL said he would show what had rendered this measure indispensable. Dade, the Reform Dill the fressigis• was 10i, wailer abeester 20 yeses, sad thereilre the fresehiss dermisiles tome. TM tan was, Keith, MA- Ind sellasstte gad Isom, add the Masan" had almost as piled. The Miestelthepressethillwaste remodythat ming ant Maniere it me peepased le give the franchise 11-7 , --wr ~,LbtuthebsZa:asiesnmeate twelve month tenant mood with • anise Ot quit maid Wilk ea ourc w idag the fressides whoa he woks, nape ea assopier. Fee nun*. if he were sued with a seise es the let November, le quit m the Ist May, bat still matimed to oseapy, he maid Mee Be right legeheime the revising banister esdresisteria the gossiag ammo. That might occur in ems Malssem but ese what might happen on the other had if this weeds were added. A landlord who had twisty or thirty tenants o• kb seats, ossapping from year to per, might as the Ist of November give *am notice to quit, ea/ he dieframideed the whole of them en tM lit of Key /Mewing. Mr. GROGAN sell, If Mau ecatiased to soapy enter the expiration of his subs he violated the law, sad** intention of the learned gentleman was that sank renal, he continued in posisseioa, should retain his vote. Mr. SADLEIR would woes the amendment as °peals( a wide field for Hassan sad fraud. Mr. ROEBUCK woad ask a simple question : what bars would be doss if a wrongful holder did vote . (Hear, hear.) The necessity of extending the franchisews gene rally asiitted ; and, as a statesmen, he wanted to know what mischief would result from such peillool Toting as this clause described. He was confident they would do no harm by admitting this elms of votes. In answer to Mr. J. A. HAMILTON, The ATTORNRY-GENERAL mid the dams would in clude all booed Ado occupiers, whatever their legal rights. (Hear, hoar.) Sir F. THESIGER said the boa. and hernia gentleman was now introducing another description of qualification— bon • fide occupatiote. (" No, no.") Sir D. NORREYS said there wen numerous cases where Ineottlerd:ight°Ctq.tsollitw ret ain r e 1 L than T e O virea N °6 E P :Vie r th re e the Att t e lusa nte:Gen had ers a l feared the amendment would lead to litigation, he had better make the clause more clear, by rayingoccupier de feu*, whether do jure or not. (Laughter, and cries of Divide.") I WARWICK said the Debts led emitted to observe OM the gamy tams have been rated, end met have bees in' dedsliatiss • while year. (Rear, hoer.) •M. W. B ROWN said they on to leek simply et the linespaties, mill not at the dispntse between landlord" end tenant. Mr. HILDYARD said if the words " tenant end owner" were omitted in the English Reform Bill, the oiliest would be, in such • borough as Harwich, to throw the eleotios into haods of government officers, who ommpird neither an tenantstnor owners. The same woald be the effect of this clause if swered to as it roes. Mr. HENLEY swished to confine his amendment to the bisect/ea of the weeds " she shall weepy es owner or tenant." The emantittee then divided — For the amendment Ads k 166-64 Mr. HENLEY moved another assealimeat on the eame elates, the ea of which was that the occupier should have mid all rates for the period of one year. This, he ved, was the intention of the government is framing the dam, bat it was not clearly avowed. If the noble lord thought that principle just, he (Mr. Henley) would be p lad to leave the matter in his hands. Otherwise he should press his amendment. The ATTOENBY-GENERAL wild not wee to the proposition. The insertion of these words would make the clause utter nonsense. It did not appear whether the year wee to be calculated tram the date of raistration, or the time of voting. The object of the amendment 'p remed to be to require that an occapler should be rated to the amount of 81. during the whole year; but such aas not the principle of this clause. (lieu, hear.) Tin principle of the clause was that the lest rate made within the given time was the tat of value. (Hear, hear.) If a man who catered on land which wee worth Only 61. a year so raised its value by • proper expenditure of mossy and labour se to nuke it worth 201., surely it would sot be contended that that man had no right to a vote ? (Hear, hear.) Mr. G. A. HAMILTON mid that the last rating was the test of value, but what his hon. friend proposed WM that n ot dialog the year should be required also as the test of osenpatioe. (Hear, hear.) • Sir D. NORREYS said that the coosequenee of requiring I a man to be rated for as entire year, would in some ewes nada • person incapable of impala the franchise, although he might have been in actual compation for 16 swaths. Mr. BRIGHT said that he had opportunities ideating the real difficulties whish had arbon, aad the greet injustice which had been created in consequence of requiring a person to be rated for every separate rating, and that was with him • stronger reason than any which had yet been given be desiring to see the clause remain es it was. Mr. HENLEY said it was now clear that the object of geurnment was to enable a man to be registered, who, although he might occupy a tenement worth only 10e. a year, might be rated by the guardians at 81., • few days, before the day of registration . He would, therefore, pro ppoosst to substitute for the words "last rating for the time beano" the words " and shall be rated during the occupation hereinafter required to all rata made." The amendment having been pat, Lord J. RUSSELL begged to sell the attention of the committee la the restrictions contained in this clause. Ia the Arm place they had the occupier, and they said that he was not to have a vote merely because he was an occupier, but they required, in addition, that he should be rated in the last rate to the support of the poor at the value of 81. In • subsequent part of the clams they required him to oecupy for a year before be could claim tea registered, and likewise that he must have paid by the let of July, any rate that might have been doe by him for such occupation up to a dey in the Jancary pre ceding. Here were three considerable restrictions; and, as the can put by the hon. member for Oxford was barely • Ma:libut certainly not a probable, ous t or one that was ai ygequently to occur, h• was not disposed to secede we the amendment, and would adhere to the clause as it laud. (Hear, hear.) After • few observations from Mr. Hiles, Mr. Law, Mr. Cleassate. and Mr. Grogan, Sir F. THESIGER said that he did not think his hoe. friend the member for Oxford would gain his object by the words he proposed. He would, therefore, recommend his bee. friend to withdraw his amendment. ID. HENLEY assented, and the amendment was with drawn. Oa the proposition that • rating at 81. should constitute qualification for the franchise, Mr. G. A. HAMILTON proposed, as an amendment, that grating at 151 should be substituted for 81. In making this proposition he repudiated the imputation that he was actuated by an undue desire to cripple or diminish the franchise In Ireland. (Rear, hear.) He subscribed to the doctrine of the noble lord (Russell) that every person in the country was entitled to the best system of government which parliament could devise, and Ha to the doctrine of Mr. Fox, who said that the best basis of a representative system; was that which included the largest number of independent voters and excluded the argon number of those who were dependent. The question then was, what system of representation would afford the best government as Ireland. He would not Wait that W eans* the number of voters was large in England as com pared with Ireland, that they should on that ground increase the electors in the latter country. The amount which was to confer the franchise had been settled at the time of the Reform Bill, aft: r anxious and elaborate deliberation, both for boroughs and counties. and he did sot think it maid be wise to disturb that amngement now. (Hear, bear.) Oae of his main objections to the present proposition was that it would confound the distinction between the borough frasehise and the county franchise, which was based on property as distinguished from occupation. (Hear, hear.) The amendment having been pat, Mr. GRATTAN thought of proposing 51., but some Em ilia members having told him that if he proposed W., he would have • chance of carrying his proposition, but that if be proposed 51. he would not succeed, he yielded I. their saggestioe. He would not, however, propose any amend meat, and he suggested to his hon. friend to withdraw his. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, but, Mr. REYNOLDS claimed permission to offer a few °beer ultimo. He could not avoid expressing his surprise at the smondssat proposed by his hon. friend the member for the Unieuellipof Dublin, because be believed that the N. (ran. I dihe einii have suited his side of the house extremely med.', 4 11ibeed to mislead or duel,' that house or the gabs thought the effect of the ha. and I }BMWs observations would be to produce misserden. (Hear, hear.) He told the house that pf _the present bill was to sweep away annetise and he ( Mr. Reynolds) presumed the mosibei meant to my la Ireland. What be my.. Illy demanded from that house la the name of wirsiartia was • liberal, free, Ina honest Puha. NOWT Mears Bill foe Ireland. (Rear, hoar.) lie tepid tionlie the house by reading afew papers sertißan returns made to that house, and then l essomietee if it wag Mir sr rumens that gentle. WS IS ale opposite aids diset i M a ke amendment et the her. samba far the 13 of Dublin. The mar was &Cabana, ehowbgehe of the several straps la Ireland, and number of eltotere appearing on the roll in 1843, by which it appeared that the Mid of the n Gonads@ in Ireland amounted to 7,4311 sad the salable of voters 83,842. The popuic Hos oldie masnalsil to 739,302, and the number of sista= 3111,1 though In reality not half that number tens available. ow, mina these Agana showed that some 71,1100 portiomentary vases applaud on the roll for Irish esemtlie and boroughs, were be le &dust the real bona fid* Mesh" ke w certaia they would not mold 30,000; and tees that system as to be malatabied ? (Hear, bear.) Whilst Wok with a papulatioa stover eight mUlione, returned to Oat hew 105 members Rem her parliamentary role of not man dima 30,000, the Seel& and Emilia boroughs, num. Wing • mulattos of arm Wafts, had 417,000 voters, and mewled 353 atembem (Hear, bast.) Now, he widted to bow Uhy_ the bus. member for the university did not eoltead boldly Muth, dila of Inlaid to possess or large a franekhe mod es saw member, as Ragas& I (Hear, hear.) The ogre sight be hosed the Nestor of the retina= (Mr. Mune) brunt that ant of • population ot 16 they had °sly a million of voters. Why Inland, with 8 mii liege—half the population of England and Wales—had ealy 30,000 voters—(tter, beer)--end whilst Unload and Weiss retuned SOO members, the people of Irelaai adorned only 105. (Hut, hear.) He bad bees asked by several why Mumbled himself about the hamides billow Englishmen world great nothing; sad why be would not absent him self, es elkw leidi amenbeee did? Unfortunately, it was tee IMAM bleit mien' — did absent themselves ; bat he denied die aeseedes that it wee useless to expect anything freskinglabsaws. The hon. gentleman then read a list of six laglidi and six Irish boroughs, each returning two members to parliasene, with population and number of electors in era 411 y 24 Dereasta. Pop7;11 - 47. 40.7 nectars. Members. limisbereugh lbstlerd nand* livelborough Biehmed 4,300 263 1,473 12 80,720 8,244 2 231,7111 120 49 2 1,i22 2 AM 1,246 $ Woodard ..... Is Cork Debits =k 492,872 17,135 12 U. then continued : that list showed that the aggregate population of six Irish parliamentary boroughs sending 12 members was 492,872, the total number of electors beiag 0.17 27,335, while the aggesgate population of the six English boroughs sending the same number of members to parliament was 26,383, and the manner of electors wee 1,473. The committee had now to decide whether the franchise should be 81. or 161. lie should record his vote against the 151. franchise, but he begged to give notice that If that motion were carried he should move an amendment to leave out the words 161., and say the minimum rating should be 41. After a few words from 10. STAFFORD. Lord I. RUSSELL said that he would offer only a few observation on the subject of the hon. gentleman's proposal before the committee divided. lie did not think that the hon. radioman had really laid himself open to the state ment made by the hen. amber for the University of Dublin, that he wished to retain the present system of the hanchive in Ireland ; on the contrary, the hon. gentleman was willing to consider the question, and that he did not tontine himself to the question of tenure. The case really ivied itself into a question of the number of electors there should he in Ireland. He (Lord 3. Russell) should submit to VW committee that the !Mammal rating would not steam , an esotesive camber of electors. Taking the 81. a year in empties as Well u boroughs, he thought the whole number mesas be wider 300,000, and if thet number was competed with the number of election in England and Wales, I the y were about one in five of the population of England sad Wale., and would be found to be in the proportion of one in six and • half or seven in Ireland. In arguing lids gaieties, the boa. (tendon= stated that the 81. a year represented the benefiaal interest of half that amount, of 41. a year. If that 4e. a year was compered with the fran chise in Busload, it would he found to be equal only to 21. a year, and therefore the hon. gentleness' himself stated that it would be • beneficial interest of 41. a year. There cer tainly was the differeatiii of tenure. (Loud cheers from the opposition.) He submitted, however, that the proprsal being that than should be rather a lees number in pro- portion in Ireland than in England and Wales, and the mourn of property being very fairly represented, there was no reesea for sulfa( that it was too low a franchise. But, thee, there certainly came the question, on which very little argument had been addressed to the house, why the franchise should be given to persons who were merely occupiers, and why that occupation should sot be joined with the tenure, as was the cue in England, end which had always been considered as the mo pe franchise in this country. In order to arrive at a just conclusion on this question, he (Lord John Russell) thought it would be quite seMelect to look back at the course of proceeding in Ireland with respect to the franchise hosed epos tenure. In the year 1793 the forty shilling freehold, as enjoyed' by the people of England, woo grated to the people of Ireland . The consequence wen that there were in some eintaties thousands of manufactured votes in the hands crimsons of no property whatever who were driven to the pen by the agouti of the landlords in order to meet the *emend mates of some other landlord. In fact, it hirame npiaes d tat reetthe earicatare and most savage abuse of the system that could well be imagined. He remembered leering a story which was some illustration of the stetement. A gentleman who was paining by a number Of waitetted hovels in the shape of a village in Ireland, said to the geatiesun who was driving him. " How can you permit say person to inhabit these wretched hovels, and of what use can the people be to you ?" " Oh," an swered the gentleman, " all the use in the world. for p :h e e s / enabled me to make my brother a dean." (Laughter. He (Lord J. Romani did not think that the amount pro wallas law, nor that it would sties an excessive number wan to Ireland. (Bear, hear. Mr. OOULBURN then row, but was throughout hie remarks very inaudible. The right hon. gentlemen was understood to say that he was extremely anxious to learn the petal& on which the government based their proposal. He felt very strongly the necessity of making a con siderable addition to the number of voters in Ireland, but he felt bound to consider the effect which the reduction of the amount of the franchise would have on the social andition of the people of Ireland. The government with which he had the honour to be connected had intreduced • bill by Lord Elliott, in order to remedy the evils of the franchise in Ireland, and make it in some respects similar to England. That bill gave the right of voting to a 51. free hold. This was stated now to be too high ; but there was a vast difference between • 51. freehold and an 81. rating. Was an 81. rating qualified to give a constituency to Ireland such as it was desirable for that country to possess? In making such an alteration great regard should be taken of the stimulus which it would give to the industrial exertions of the Irish. If a higher rate than 61. were adopted the number of voters might be reduced; but then it would afford motives for exertion, and would give a stimulus to those who did not possess the right to vote to do their utmost to obtain the necessary qualification. Having regard to the consideration of the social condition of Ireland, and the results which the adoption of an 81. franchise would have upon it, he was not of opinion that it was an advisable course for the house to adopt, and he should give his vote against it. (Divide, divide.) Sir W. SOMERVILLE apprehended that there was no doubt as to the necessity of sorrething being done. The state of the franchise in Ireland was now such that it behoved the house, if they really wished to establish a proper constituency in that country, to endeavour to remedy the existing state of things. The question was, what that remedy ought to be, and how it ought to be applied. The house would remember that by the Reform Act a 101. franchise was conferred on Ire land, and the general opinion at the time of passing that measure was that under that franchise a very extensive con stituency would be created in Ireland. That expectation had entirely failed. Instead of an extensive constituency, the number of voters had been declining ever since, and at the present moment they amounted to very little more than 30,000. The point then was, haw were they to create a constituency in Ireland ? He believed that it would be use. less to attempt it by in any way connecting the franchise with the tenure of land, no matter whether the amount were W., 31., or 21. There was always a great indisposition to grant leases in Ireland,posably because it conferred the paths. mentary franchise ; that indisposition would not be diminished if a franchise of 51. were adopted connected with the tenure of the land. Was the 81. franchise so very high compared with the 101. franchise granted by the Reform Act ? He appre- hended it was not. Returns laid upon the table of the house in 1843 would show that a 101. or 81., or even 51. rating would not diminish the number of 101. voters established under the Reform Act ; and it did not appear to him that the proposed bill would make any excessive menus in the constituency. It was generally admitted that there must be a large increase in the constituency. The proportion of electors at the present moment to the adult male population of Ireland was very little more than three per cent.; the number to be created by the bill then before the house might, he thought, be calculated at about 287,000, that would give a proportion of about 15 per cent. to the adult male population. That was not an extravagant proposal; nor an addition which ought to alarm hon. gentlemen oppe site ,• whilst it was somewhat nearer the properties of electors in England to the adult male population. It a higher franchise than that proposed by the government were adopted, he thought the people of Ireland would have • just right to complain, and that being the case, he hoped the house would not consent to the motion of the hon. member for the Dnivenity of Dublin. Mr. R. M. FOX (member for Longford) was sure that the measure would be received with great satisfaction in Ireland. - - Mr. STAFFORD said the supporters of the clause had enlarged upon the number, but said nothing of the quality of the electoral body whom it was proposed to create. This, he argued, would be degraded below the endurable rank by the 8!. qualification. Mr. SIiBIL explained that the 81 rating was fixed for Ireland as being equivalent to the tariff fixed by the Reform 3111 for Ragland. The consequences of the measure he did not expect to find so completely democratic as had been assumed. The increased expense of the elections would be a bar to many ambitions; and the individual prepossessions of large muses of the electors, who were unprotected by • lease, would be controlled by the " expressive physiognomy" el their landlords. Mr. ROEBUCK said hoe. members were always fall of involuntary emotion when they tallied of humanity, gene rosity, and kindness towards that nation. Now he wished they would at once practise that species of generosity which would allow the Irish people to manage their own concerns; end the only way to do so was to allow the Irish people, and not the Irish landlords, to send representatives us that home. (Cheers.) It was declared by the right hos baronet the member for Tamworth, when he brought in hit eelabrated bill in 1829, that the Irish landlords had mann faetund votes for their own purposes ; that the priests cams in and put down the power of the landlords, so that, to use the right hon. gentleman's expression, " the sword which they bad forged was broken in their own hands;" and that then the landlords were quite ready to destroy that franchise which they had previously employed for their own purposes. The measure then offered was accepted simply bemuse • bettor lons could not be obtained. New, when they were attempting to create a constituency in the country, thew had members rising up and saying we are quite ready to coincide with you—we want an independect oonstitnency. Why should • Man with 151. • year be more independent than one whnpaid 101. ? Hen was one great reason why we should take • different franchise in England and Ireland. In England there was a greater degree of wealth ; and if in England you were to make the Minden franchise 161,, you would swell the constituency far more than you could do in Ireland. 11. in Ire land :wee • far larger rum than 101., 161., or 20s. in England. Therefore, he had no hesitation, fearing not the imputation of inconsistency, to go with the noble lord in the full expectation that the increase of the population of Ire land would teach the other side of the house that they might go safely hereafter another step. These things must be done by degrees, and when the noble lord brought forward his Reform Bill, which he (Mr. Roebuck) hoped he would shortly introduce into the house, when he should lower the franchise of 101. in England, he hoped it would be accom panied by an Irish reform bill, and that it would go on with it step by step. Lord C. HAMILTON said that be believed that in all coats they should not think that there was any panacea that would immediately can the people. The one thing that Ireland had not asked for was the franchise. Mr. MACCULLAOH observed that it had been asked by the noble lord, why no petitions had been presented to the house in favour of this bill, He would give an answer. On two several occasion the people of Ireland came to the house and affirmed the principle of this bill. He thought the noble lord would prefer to keep the constituency of Ulster, and of his own county, such as it was. The noble lord maid that the constituency should re main as they were. What was the state of the constituency of a portion of Ireland of which the noble lord was one of the representatives? The whole constituency of Ulster was less than 9,000. There were fewer electors in the whole of pro testant Ulster than in South Heron, both divisions of Lin colnshire, and West Kent. The house was asked to-night why the Si. franchise was selected more than any other that could be named. He believed it would be found to be correct, that the counties of England had, on an average, 6,700 electors, and this franchise would give about 0,000 for each county in Ireland. Therefore it would be found to be that this bill was a bill for the specific perform ance of • promise made at the time of the Reform Dal, that Ragland and Ireland should be placed on the same footing. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that as he must affirm these resolutions or the reverse, he felt himself in duty bound to vote for the hon. gentleman. (Hear, hear.) He felt that If they were to give • new constitution to Ireland, they had better be upon the liberal side. lie confessed for his own part, that he bad great doubts as to trying this en periment of a different franchise in Ireland. Alter a few words from Sir W. YEOMEN and Slr.MoNsett., Lord J. MANNERS felt that they had derived great benefit from the debate of the previous evening, and re- joiced that it was after and not before that de - tee thec were called upon to discuss this question. lie thotght th a t the house would not consider that they He torieij w ee , travelling out of . the record if they tested t h is bill by the principles which wise then laid do h and he called upon .th• majority wh o suppoeteei these principles by follow's" the noble lord to give th em (the Writs) their support that night. The noble lord hid down this principle, that any reform should be in tee shape of &supplement to the Reform Act. Nyw . if that principle were applicable to Erglend, it was still more so to Ireland. By the Moral Bill affecting Ireland, it was prep, eed create • constituency approaching 15C,000, and to i e 1837 the actual constituency was over 122d d , But if this bill were carried, a c edet i t ,;;; much k rger than .as intended by the 8 4 64 Bill would be immediately created. It had been said that it hon. gentlemen voted with the noble lord on this occasion they would have a claim upon him for an extension of t h e franchise in England and Scotland. He ci uld not mutes in that opinion. But if the noble lord should pm thi, bill and. M ontrose , decline to meant to the proposdionof the tie sieis e b4 for Montrose, he would prove to the pe o pl e of tins cow,. that he reposed greater confidence in the peee, e ;;:, of Ireland than the mechanics of England. lie ruT r i .7. Manners) could not honestly say that th e imam of Lincoln Or the artisan of Birmingham were lees worthy • to exercise the franchise than the cabin occupiers of the Ing of Allen. The committee then divided, when there appeart d For the motion 213 For the amendment Majority Mr. REYNOLDS proposed to omit the words wtisa gaited payment of the rate as well as the h. ing rat e d. Sir W. SOMERVILLB opposed the emeudat.ot, which Kr. REYNOLDS then withdrew, amid ironinol cheers sad laughter kora the cppmition. He bell. ved t►.. who cheered would vote against him it he went to a division, otherwise be would divide. Oa the proposition that the Ist of Jaen try shoeld Mto day on or before which the me should be paid, Mr. Wearona and Mr. Bawer severally objeetei to di6 ferent days being fixed tor the payment of ens rates as filmy to lead to confusion. Sir W.SOMERVILLE would alter the bid ia th 4 meet when they came to the 6th clause. Mr. REYNOLDS suggested that the rate law wad e only should be required to be paid to entitle the Toter to exercise the fra-.cniee. The ATTORNEY GENERAL referred to the Eitatidt system, in justifying the requirement of the paymeat of all rates due. Mr. HOME thought it would be sufficient to require that the rates made after the passing of the bill shoutd be paid. • The blank was then filled up as proposed. Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON then moved to add to the clause, " and provided aiso he shall have made a claim to the high constable of the barony in which he shall have been so rated, in the form numbered in schedule A, No. 3 (a)." His object was to prevent any men from being annoyed by the one party or the other. Sir G. GREY thought the adoption of this amendment would destroy one of the main features of the Irish fran chise; for the independence of the voter would then be iserificud, either by the innuenee of the landlord, or the priest. The amendment wan put and negatived. Mr. REYNOLDS moved, as another amendment, that no person qualified should be held to be disqualified reason of any arrears of p,or•rates due priur to the 16th of July. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL &nerved that care m . nt be taken to prevent the evasioa of the papeu,at of anon It rates. Mr. BRIGHT asked whether the right boa. Freedman, the Attorney General, meant to say that there was no .au in Ireland for the collection of rates, except this fraart.se bill? (Hear, hear.) The object of the present interze was, not to collect rates, but to define the franchise. Mr. AGLIONBY hoped government would allow te proviso to be put in. The Attorney General had made statement whica was calculated to mislead the hikue. He said, if they inserted the proviso, it would be a receipt full for the payment of the rates. Lord J. RUSSELL said the house had decided ern:). that the rates should be paid to a certain day, as a ',1111.:. s. tion for voting. Then the question was, as to whether tr not there should be so exception made. He did not thlr c when they were laying down a general rule, the they should state there sloculd be exceptions. For dieter:Et he could not agree to this amendment. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he had been chant: with wishing to mislead the house. He did no such tit. According to the amendment the voter would act be ea. titled, unless he had paid the last rate up :o the sth Jan. ary,'.lBso. Now, the collector would not :ake the ;an rate. unless he got the preceding ones. Mr. REYNOLDS remarked that the collector might be directed by this bill to take the last rats. His proviso was a source of merriment to the other side, but he believed nit it would relieve many who wore broad cloth, as they were greater defaulters to the poor rate, in proportion, than wire those who wore frieze. Mr. HUME said he thought it was unfair not to re:: this amendment, but seeing that government had macs up their minds, he advised his how fn. nd not to Ivia the house. Mr. REYNOLDS then withdrew the proviso, ad tie clause was agreed to. On clause 2, Mr. HAMILTON said there were many objections to it, and he proposed that it should be adjourned. Lord J. RUSSELL consented to postp.ue this elan*, and said he should be end to hear the opinions of rentkmen connected with Ireland upon it, end mere especirily thew who had supported the bill. The Chairman then reported progress, and obtainedleave to sit again on Monday. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.—THE NAVY ESTIMATES. Lord J. RUSSELL said he wished to state the 0010111 he proposed to take on Monday. From what be bad beard since he bad made a statement at fire o'clock, the tint Lord of the Admiralty would tied it impossible from the state of his health to attend in that house on Monday, and,ihere fore, he should propose to go on with the bill they had been discussing in committee. PARLIAMENTARY VOTERS (IRELAND). The house then resolved itself into a committee. when a resolution was agreed to for the payment of barrister and other. CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL. On the order of the day for the ',tend reeding of this Mr. TURNER said this was an important measure. and he thought it ought not to be read a second time withoi: observation upon it. Sir I. ROMILLY said if there was any objection to bill he wss willing that it should be postpone I. The bill was then postponed. COURT OF CHANCERY (IRELAND) BILL. This bill passed through committee pro.turnsa. To be re• ported on the 15th of March. MERCANTILE MARINE BILL. Mr. LAW-R . -CHIME said he proposed to nice thee on Friday next. MONEY PAYMENT OF WAGES (IRELAND) BILL This bill was postponed to Friday. MERCHANT SHIPPING BILL. This bill was postponed to Monday, the 11th of March. REGISTRATION OF DEEDS tIRELAND) BILL. This bill was read a second time, sad ordered to be tea mined on the sth of March. SUPPLY. In Committee of Supply a sots el 17 miliians for Es. chequer Bills was taken. CONVEYANCE OF REAL PROPERIT. il ; nM A T the h n nre e d. AhllSaeothntEtagd;oknaeoflatatceinelt9ivindt:thcteemiyoltetabhataeiairntCnoloedooffamthvhseeleiyrnaanupflptneicevieilronvif"btlatZU.seplaligliiio;..":l4opt.a'etT,bill.td.::: ST. DAVID'S DAY-SOCIETY OF ANCII BRITONS. ----- Yesterday the members of this ~.: viety celebrated TheQt b u e e l r e Queen str e et.Bi sh opst hil n o Th f ise s ril e u ßl .t l . o_ p f festiva l hrl o c u: t i l a . l' it i . I n e lt s h m e r, ch air .llN‘ i t i e a r i" . :7 . 70 d: sat down to dinner, and amongst the company we , • Watkin W. Wynn, Sir R. W. Vaughan. Sir B. Leighton , the Rev. John Jennings, Sir Thomas Phillips reateit . J. h Williams. Esq., the Rev. Rowlan d Williams. a:•and Te g possible enthusiasm masted throughou t the evening.. the entertainment was in every rower of a purely national character. The Prince of W Litill feathers were slisp:stei in great profusion, and a variety of songs in honour a :4. David's Day were sung at intervilebetween the speeces. the musicians engaged for the occasion were the Misses Willilw. Mr. Farquhaisen Smith, Mr. ileum., Mr. Shoubridge. ani Mr. Ellis Roberts. Mr. Stall Reeves bad tendered kJ gratuitous services, and sang two favourite songs to tte great delight of the company . AOlOOO/fit the taaSti a the even. ing were " The l'rincipakty of Wales l'ruspetal to the Welsh Charity School." Several gentlemen interested In the st n o f the chanty addressed the company in the course e,f vening. and the boil and girls of the institution T hee to . :00) pew round the room in procession. The fund% w ere stated to Iv in avert' Nourishing condkion, and nearly 1.40i1C. woe col lected on the present occasion. The entettaientatt ete of & character strictly in iieeof.htlige with the natwell fal! which pervaded the guests, sad St. David's llsy was cele brated with all the honours due to the occasion. -eh d st The annual sermon in a id of the charity was rev,..., St Martin's Church in the morning by the lie , limi."‘; Williams, Vier- rrineipal of Si. David's College. lv art the service w as attended by a large eoescoune ..o. People. • - SELECT COMMITTEE ON rillgON Y•ltiinlay this members (Adria committee taut for the • rtt time in Committce-room 17. elected Mr. Iltclte ( t Pe nJ " chairman, and arranged the onto reruns. L'ouNTE CA)uxts EXTENSION.- -la the to eV tend the aition of the County Courts, yrstrdsyl..'"l* there is a clause giving either party debt of sppe+i w superior court in shove '2Ol. Thcre are fouriee2 provisions laths bill ands ale of ises is actioso above a.. Chi The mails fo Ma be made up on r the The mails for Li eip on March 7. The mails rid Mi Ceylon, evening of Mirth 7 The mails for I Suites will be marli The West India N os es, Honduras, them for Madeira Chili, and Peru,wil Egy Th p e t. Ink made up on the mails for HIGH Tan Do.—lin Twrimmovr —Mc LONDON, REFORMERS I division on parli gress--not verj still progress. In 1849 the y Ayes, 82; nod stands :—Ayes, supporters of t indicated by th than they were majority agains A scrutiny o. hers have voted vote on the gut 18 members wh vote for it on 1 18 voted again, them are still i titled (includifu in the House o plan of reform, The number c who have by th Mr. lit - 'r.'' ol two short of th , with Mr. Irt , it trived to make franchise b: ; backed by Mr tion of the Pr( dry desert of their way Mel It is only 23 liberals who a 1.1:81 mach fives tenslei:n tr u s tw o r thy el fEI e r Lh c Ei fii t hln k : 4 o l : e T t aer hpp l i S h t n Et al t at e e i a g E o ir r Etbpda3l4‘ preached I Mr. HENR HAM got am in the how Meal fraud property tu sense and I pretence tt holders of Lord Jo his own pr to devote t He affect is devotee] Bill, it for admini r!qaired. mons. The —the new others—wi the Rem The progre proportion has cooled 1 +