The Express. — London, England, 1850-06-28 00:00:00

IMPERIAL I'ARL I AMEN't HOUSE OF LORDS ....TM/VADAT, AMU 27. TM Muse mot at d Wench. Lord La at speaker. PETITIONS PRESENTED. ?AMU Lenora.—By the Earl of HARROWBY. fn. • Macs his Lawiewhim. is favour of as easiest Tea Hours Nal ; Lath STANLEY, also from a plan (a Lassashin, to die OWN amt. Dim Ileoga.—By the Earl of HARRO MEV. fro. the Bred of Oneediana of Elneiwieb. mane bar shops. THE EXHIBITION OF ISSI IN HYDE-PARK. By Rai TALBOT, from the ialtaaitaate of K-osiogtea l Oars, somplainist of tats einem of Hyde-par as the site the Ma exhibition of MI. Lira BROUGHAM said thews was • brisk bailing shies lad just his. erred ia the miabboorhood of the low: et putismeet, but he setierstood is was holy to les u • tempesary character. It ma, hewer, very %Mph y gag be bort hie aphid Woad would glee him ea sioneems that It would Daly be tempenry. le saint this In felt that wallowlat • samol--est Noy was etiaili" ata gnat "a Laed C • imtim Ithastalo sad learned freed oposte, the Me - —(Lad Camebell)--(1 laugh)--but tee great breek he= whist it we proposed to oven Hyde-park. He rim eietne that se-merfrow be would call the attention of also Mum te that seethe oseeldorod • mos: fejsrious sa sosabom, ee me ogee mass le Hyd—perk. Hen.) PARLIAMENTARY VOTERS (IRELAND) BILL. Laird STANLEY believed It war amorally unisestood OM It was net the ninths of the aeon stamen opposite , to premed with this bill tomorrow (Mi.) henna. It' weed be comennat to the home if the noble marquis would state bit inteai m so the seibleet. The Marques et LANSDOWNE said that masiderieg certain encasement to which he see t not men particu larly aikido, he could only state that it was not his innate. to Mist oe the mossers end. d to to sorrow nicht. H. thought it would meet the sesveniesee of all parties if he prosoodad with it as Mandy sight Lord BROUGHAM said they could hardly be sum of that, as the noble marquis was depending es promedisp which were 14 be determined elembers. AUSTRALIAN COLONIES GOVERNMENT BILL. Ebel GREY said he would non the report se this bill to-momw (this day). Lewd STANLIT said he bdiernd it was not the ietontiou of the mine earl to prom the federal obese% Earl GREY did not mend to prom than, as be thought it would be impossible to make them work satisfactorily at present PUBLIC HOUSES (SCOTLAND) BILL. TM report no this bill was brought up eel remind. ' ABOLITION OF THE OFFICE OF LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND. TM Marquis of LONDONDERRY, ponuant to nodes, presented _p dries. from the Lord Mayor. (temporaries, and trades of Dublin, against the proposed abilities of the dim of LortLieutinaat of belied ; sad preceded to mom the following neolatioss, viz That to abolish the free of Lerd-lAtereent of Imbed to army to the npurtuioes held oat by the debrinsen who erred the bgir helve anima Wrest the two esmatelee, sad who declared that theugh pereemset was rowed Lewd, Meld sad retain her mart. net if ever a wise were inanopicious for say great champ Is the acs toreed ereatise of Iretaad, it is at • time when Are yore of famine have Motet ber to the aimed nem, of therdr ; when largo numbers el the peeldeat proprietors re ruined; obis the berm of new Poor laws is r operation: rem the breed Poi d ardas Is naming on; whoa • nbellion bee bees only meetly ; when madam at land gneetions rein to charger and f pew and wheat the meat controver of free trade and prdesden aavueer the agricultural interests of the corny. That, emoder Eofon. le re of the hembomed cities In Europe, and Pally the di Indtment, with • pinslsdue o 1 3w,000, • trade appeeng lin aid led bar Onto den,oo., se la emir:ion rpm& Int Mos ISM to Ire by IRON re.isterel teas; that it is the heed- , I=.of ahem army. with law teensy...hi d aver by 12Juars, a oweet of Egottt administered by • Lord Chonetalor. a College of Sergiy smisersitv, and an se eldeparopal see. and =Melt in scientific, literary, and charitable inaitations: tag dm it darn from idiehergb by being seporeted Item the braid winner by a bbl ever rowel while it pos. errs • Privy Coward sierra to bike all fuer which • patois ed gery may remdire, it appears that Dublin is • capital ormeteat to rave the mil and military &metre whisk • nisi. may reunite--a crisis whir, netwthetan'ing the Inereesed Nettie, or economies. ben, may Maar Mount and kcal interrosition, and which theater of Lard Lieutenant, now carter kw upward. of hall • oratory, has hitherto been found able sot ceosiur.y to ore with and contra If they created • Secretary of State for Irelead, there must sti.l be any officials in Dahlia, aid es moire ma chimney maintsiaed then, to carry on the live govornnent. In 1844. when the subject was discussed in mother plan, the noble lord opposite (the Zoe of Car liele). then Sooner t. for Ireland, mimed out the difliculties of abolishing the • See of Lord Limnos sat ; and • right boa. baronet (Sir R. Peel) opposed the appointment of a fourth Secretary of State. And he (the Marquis of Londonderry) wasted to know bow all the diMeulties of carrying as the maehiaery of government in Inland, if the dike of Lord Lieutenant were abolished, could be met ? He very much doubted the palmy of such eraerimeatal legislation. As to the dimieutiou t f lobbing and intrigu • at Dublin Castle, it was not the Lord Lieutenant that crested this cams of com plaint, but the penned party to which he belosted, oft am side or the ether—the minister Gish* day ; sad sash a charge might at well he brassie against the Lord Chaae.lior—were there no jobs in the law ? lie knew a t what necessity there could be for a fourth secretary, seeing that at present the Lord Lieutenant was subjected entirely to the casino' of the Home Secretary. What would have been the state of Dub lin two man since, if they had not had Lord Clarendon there as Lord Lieutenant to take immediate measures to pri me the city iris metal, is spite of the opposition of the Lord Mayor of Dahlia ? Was it possible, he would ask, that an under secretary in Dublin, acting under &fourth secretary in London, could have acted with inch energy, or would have takes upon himself the responsibility of so doing ? He would ergs u.oe their lordships' attention the interests of the city of Dublin, the loyalty of which bed recently been so fully proved. The abolition of the office weald be • serious injury not only to Dublin, bat to Ireland, and it would be doubly felt in the present distressed state of that country, is which the potato disease had again made its ap pearance. For a long time the eons lord at the bead of the government was afraid to strike this blow. Was it because he feared Mr. O'Connell during his li • ? Certain it was that be had availed himself of • period of grist political apathy and universal dilater. Before this measure was proceeded with farther, he world urge the appoint ment of • commission to take endwise es the subject. Ho thought that this measure would inflict • deep wound on his unfortunate country. Allen they were about to apily a remedy for a great disadvantap*, they must take very good can that the remedy was such as might not be greater thee the evil . Het did not understand how the noble lore mull come dews with a Om reaiy cut and dried. He would rather menet their lordships to grant a commission. or is the mune of next year, to take evidence from 8,1 individuals who had been sue retaries and diem& of Ireland When noble lords ta'ked of sompoesatios for herd, wails' they tell his what the com pcmation meant ? L Jobe Russell bad said that they were to consider what aompenostios the Irish were to have. That was • subject about width he should wiry nosh like to know scinsthiat more. He would sot tentilio their lordships further. He stood almost elate ; be hardly home, on beating forward the geostion ' whether • eagle ned atoned him would support him. Hs bad dam it from a feeling that there should not bo asp excortios rade hereafter In 6.laelailas hie had only to beg their lordships' attendant to the prides ed the city of Dubin. It es • bee espitsl; ft had beautiful streets; it had magna. Scent shops; it wet thooreamont the Gauntry, and Igniter , lordships hewn* that it was net soca • city of desolation, with grew growing in the streets, dispellise the idea that Ireland was " the ire flower of the earth, the ant re of the ea." The are lord ercleiled by moving the arst reselation, which err pet by Lord Langdale. Lord BROUGHAM thought that whist could bia mere' dt and proper thee for the aphis marquis be bete`` leeward this ispoetantanjeet , whisk wield sees meet Won their lordship i is • mere tangible shops, ler it amid eel be seem& plashed without a bill. He wood that • empire crags bad bees utenent sire of late yam la the patronage of the Lord Lis The Marque a/LANSDOWNE said that the noble teed had takes die opparsety, is tibia he was well added, of bringing forward this sabre. It was sotorions that a ba had bag been rain • that I: re sot eves at pre seat, in a very &deleted rids Ile other house of parlia ment. Thereby, there rad be early Dee eldest la v(sw in the noble startpU's sabil—eis., that their lanlehipe sherd take doe kr the aseidoratins of this niessurt He theisOt that the bible margule bad a relict right to give lie *air, bet he 411 rag thrk that at this mm he arid :r ' with say efleoseigesue sleet. gustier which is ti ell the esseterele of the Ho thsoebee mired the setae lard le i_ellligleetrir neer. The Duke of ,iMOTON and that oneogh bed bra urged te .show o ityrke_of withdraw** the metes, ere to is could be fully dis when it care • des teem de Morro. He did, Weever, hope that the ensmat wed/ esseibr the whole *abbe in all its inarC W 4.ak Wire they mowed the hones to adopt the atemare. ! I beas a military rite of Time So meld apt help that leg the bet fifty yen a series admilitory opseationo :a:z i f= a em mieternipedly le Inisnd. mit It amid he that hy the British certitudes seek orratire raid wily be corded on seder the suedes ef the evil power. The superistredenso and rogisratics of •• lied surely Ilk, the Led-Llvatenaat were &briery renaary y Oust any worm of rear tits which the Coesaudio leChlef right deer liquid* bat Diked. He bad hit be her of the ire= driag the loot few yore is Weal when he had to Ilm.•••••••• •I• mebillashim Woks. Lieideseney were obeisled, the ehW to Debbi would le oho Loyd Mayer, end if k ". 7 . 710n1a to be nth a LW Mayor as the late O'Cossell. or Dr. Cast, the ltayrebet of , loony, Me latter of whosit led bees imprisoned urn the provisions of the set fee trependisyg the haler wpm,. is would be hoposeible be be Con teenibir-Utlatef to taki say steps is erre with such an arbente. He was very mob eittaken if an Usder-Semetary Df Star a have naiad authority If the sentry rape it a dipl ere, mad he put it to die peermeld BOW s U hsa lfallud the rimers to mart whaler it woo rill. ale Ole W alt i r ,0001. a year le smiles this great lasi =ZlT %fly_ greed wiih ni es o lle'shiii ihe ha whisk be bel made the mei eseeseseisedses Doyen ee4 sod ate ressZ aat whish =Mei thee Oat 1 ." 1100 - It laul, however, be re: l ie= b ei e s iga N Sli ves hew seam lb the serif goverment Iles had bees • her years vie, eel their lesehhip mead fßiLgt that dMeso*hy Pessot alletiessie is Ileum* end le ae led ben eaprienesol la Ineseeistiely the , sem, oilers to the withseities seal wake disleeese. Albse ems What Ilsossis• The zu n gb et LONDONbiltitY :NOW by with immies his ressiadeek sad elosseiles that be sel dews with that In!sad to, ei4or . misistar an. RaoWiens witbilreira. DKAINAGN AND IMP YANCSS B ROVIINENT OF LAND ADLL. nil bill wait threi onamlisse. TITLES OF RELI GIOUS CONGREGATIONS BILL. This bill rms read • third tins sad award. ACCOMMODATION TO AMBASSADORS AND FOREIGN MINISI'EU. Th. man r ik.i *as the re port frees the salsa eosamaitte• en the seessamodaties waded to tots sad foreign wishes, herbs/ do bees be eseidetei, said that it was quite vermesseirey for highM eseepheiste the argessews wee h biased their Wahl. to sepsis{ a seise emestittie to bran Into obi report se the matte. Re would iii;= elehr tee the Met resimmesded that ter esti of the OM, dbeGbi M added to the etrassers' gamy he the arealleeMeßea el aisbeesedswe sad lereiga waivers Is meet Eel the re port be silepaed, be would merely aid that tolelnks words *sea ha carted. le enter that the assessment amid ant M aessidiewil priewrst ; for. anxious at he wee that their hisildrips &humid give every facility of eases M the reprises• helms et fereige powers sad to others to whom their led ships were always may to show the greatest degree of serene, yet he theeght that it was desirable that their laid iteslinald setae Me power nf alteriag the asnageenent. Doke of WELLINGTON agreed with the noble megges is thickiag that Mg attendee nano that power to themselves. The report se altered was adopted. PIRATES' READ MONEY BILL. was . The billread. woad , Into. CRIME AND OUTRAOKB (IRELAND) ACT CON TINUANCE BILL. The lEasquis of LANSDOWNR said, as their lordships wm about to proceed with tale bill, he wished to state that it bad bees adopted et the sengratics of the Lad-Ideate seat of Ireland. The Eul of Clotendes had sec owl, op r:...4 of the bill, but had authorised his (the Marquis of wee) to say that the powen I. be coulemd by it would enable hiss to diewsce with so ems bill fat Ireland. Tee bill was this nod • third time, and the house ad journed at a quarter pest 8 o'clock. HOUSE OF •TIIIIILIIDAT, JUNI 27. TM Brz*w took lb* akar cr4 o'clock. _ PRIVATI BUSINESS. TIIIIRD RIADI;01117:-WIZP;;;;I;li Mires Besidenes Bill, sad Timber Preserllir Company BM, were severally read a third rtme sad vi AIIteRDMRXTS Cosswanam—llarylebre sad Fischley Terapike Road Bill; sad Bridal*, tissue' Bamford sad Bmlfs, to Bevy, sad ether turnpike roads Bills, r =Leaded, were wasidered sad shoed b. sesames satisiassiss, belliny ou ss id awe Riad boas said is Ilse load of mid asd shoos is tb• A r the matter siore4l Ong hater of the crows _be iwess. HYDE PetiK .— BIHiBITIOI ( OF nat. Colossi SIIITHORF—IIir, I give notice that I shall on Magda y next repeat my qwestioa to her Maj. sty's Attorey , Central, is &rear to the legality of ',atlas down the tress in Hyde.park. (Hear, hear.) Sir H. WILLOUGHBY-84, I beg to give arias that it is my intectir is Monday nest to mom that no building shall be erected is Hyde-park without the comsat of par liament. (" Hear, hats" and cheers ) 8u DE L EVANS—I beg to give emir of my inten tion to put a works to the First Commissioner of ha Majesty's Woods and Forests, to-morrow, in relaters to the proceedings is Hyde-perk. (Hear, hear.) Mr. T. DUNCOMBE-B.r, I give notice that oa Monday I will atk the First Lord of the Treasury when it is that We intended exhibition of 1861 shall aloes sad whether, in consequence of the increasing diamatierctica amoaget the 'ohne as to the pl-re chosen for the exhibition of 1861 —Hyde-pa—the site should net be rommeideired— (chens)—and also, in the event of the amount raised by voluntary sobscriptions being Medi gusto to carry out the object, whether her Majesty's ministers intend applying to parbament f a great to defray such expenses. (.' Hear, hear," and cheers ) Mr. ROEBUCK—S:r, I have a queetinn to ask of the noble lord at the head of r Majesty's government, and in petting it I would ratl.er adders. him as the noble lord the member for the City of London. I wish to know from the noble lord if it i. decided that Hyde-pak is to be destroyed ; and whether the balding ti be erected there, at a east of some 100,000 t., will ever be taken down ? (" Hear, hear," and cheers ) Lord J. RUSSELL —lf the hen. gentleman would pie. norm of hie quentioa for Monday t.ext, I will then be pre pared to give sailliswer. (Hen, hear ) Mr. ROEBUCK.-1 wish to know if anything between this day and Monday will be done in the Park in pu-sroce of these prnceediage ? (Hear, hear.) Mr. LABOUCHERE.—No alteration of the state of Wags r It exists now will take place betweea this and Monday. (Hear, hear ) Mr. SUMS.—I give natio) that on Monday next I will ask whether it is tee intention of her Majesty's gov, foment to gaarautee the exoesses of the bullring? (Hear, hear.) Mr. LABOUCHERE —lt cannot be too distinctly under stood that the government have nothing at all to do with this matter. I: is an affair of private parties, who contribute so. leatuily, and her Majesty's government are not at all int pirated. (Hear, hear ) Mr. ROEBUCK.-13upposing the right hon. panther& the poeitioa he now does when the 68.4 is all over, I slab to know, will he ruction an applicatim to par limment for the mosey necessary (Hear, bier.) Mr. LABOUCHERE.—I object to pledge the govern ment to any inch course. (Imosikter.) I have no idea or apprehaisi .n the. such a vote will be propaiecl. (L tumbler.) Sir DE LACY EVANS.—I submit to the noble lord at the head of her Majesty's government, if It would not be expedient to direct toe suspension of proceedings in the park immediately, as between this day and Wittig next some expression. of opinion will be given in this home. Mr. ROEBUCK—I give notice that I will tab* the sense of this house as the propriety of destroying Hyde-peak. (Load cheer..) Lnd DUNCAN suggested that an early day should be gamed for taking into consideration the administration of the duties connected with the Woods and Forests, when the business of the parks meld also be considered. The matter then dertbrd. PATENTS FOR INVENTIONS. 111 mown to a gamma put by an How. X , whose sans we meld not meertaie, Kr. LABOUCBERE said that when fully prepand, a bill on the subject of tweets for iareatima would be Introduced is Ks House of Liras _ _____ CO /MISSION OF SEWERS. _ _ _ Lord DUNEki,seeTaikie ;41etries7d — tlie Chief Com siesioser of Beware is his platys--(leighter)—wiehed to know if ke usdentood his noble (Arad I igbtly whoa he soaosived that Roble lord to have said that " the minutes were printed as salted the osaveaiesee of the clerks ? " (Bear, hear ) Lord EBRINGTON replied that records were kept of the proesediags of Ale esmakeleasrs, sad the missies were printed frees maseenipit sepias • but ha should admit the Beek to wbiell his sale Prised averted the other evealai was is wear. (Rear, hear.) _ I. mower to a qmitian — froa -- 11r. B. Comm, Lord J. RUSSELL stated th►t a diplomas eierrseper demo was now gang on with the Hag of the Two Wailes on the subject of Gerais claim urged on behalf of British sauchants, on emu= of the denims sestaiaed by their properties deriag the disturbances at lamina. After assuring the Muse that the support of the claim had been asempenied by so name of wareiee assesses, the noble lewd declined to reply aim partioularly to iaterrogateries while the negotiation* Were still radiate. ENGLISH AND IRISH UNIVERSITIES BILL. Mr. OOULBURN wished to keew oa what day the noble I lord (Lord J. ResseW would take this bill. Lord J. RUSSELL replied the tit► of Judy. Mr. OLADBTONS observed that that would be too late fee the audia for or Moment a masseurs to betakes, as may his. meabcrs would this lave left ter the eouatry. Lord J. RUSSRLL—Thus U the 18th of July milt suit the riekt hoe. geatlesaut I will be prepared to take it ea that day. Mr. GOULBURN tapered his meat. ORIIRCIL, Le-ADJOURNED DEBAT& a 3. WALSH mid that, is manias this debate, ass if the advaategm he ties eajoyed was that be should sea. elder his. exempted free a reearkelation of the ids, wide* bad already, es the two previous MOM bees se misutely iistsiled. Iho goverseemt bed left it to as hoe. ,seed Smog member, who wee fer from being as habitual eesperear of shies, end who had frequently announced hie dimpisehalies of parts of their Wylie policy though he wee sew mewed to vote his eositteues is the whole, fiat ne dessedmiat warm they ismat to adeptnothi ng. and this, br atter that okay would do , to sis fer= bl ie meetaties whisk he had submitted to the hews. That reeelutiem the house would einem, did set meet the reeelades et Ike Bosse of Leeds It evaded MN of the piestipel petals mimed in the How of Lords, and U It wee tseind as opinion would be by the House of Cleasiales with regard to the teethes to British esideele without referees. to re=asd tribes& 01 the sesatelse la whisk th up. pawl Is be.o•• et the pane at the melte kedb_ h ey which MI sidled i s warned and the sue eallaimene sheen fres these who openeed his polltleal opiates , was that I. whisk he es the snil elle hoes w SU- S the ipmenmeeet to ellird web prateetke. bias leasellleie the Debbi deveneseat net a ova et wed, bat a east el premiere we• nestle rem* tent,belallyeetting adds the kw sad lelbenaie at taelpu eaten We Melds salt be sere .• and, he: adoption wait SAM* lead to pest data sad to wreaks ea the We. el meek eau. He (Qtr J. Weil) would set sa ss to ass the ease ea easeptlenal end hypothetiesl preate. The melt e lord ores, es =the have bees es- Cssi'estssely eloquent with mse art the wed which mosir hones bed inewiner la the ease of die Fag- Veen wire Swe Ostia. the Radii atibat OM whisk had bees sat Sikh Ws weave bleesseies in Se bluebooks. 11S Walsh) veldt Ike le dew wanks than wow with used le the leatiag el Alpe , bees at the pelt the be et the Peeneese teeerineeed I soij I 'Saber the Greek Slew were that the ease; whoa they anode' belesped to ea leitieh san.adsar Ila NS use to the ewe Oahe Panay easteskwase, mad he ir=did net MIA this (he awn eneeeeehl punks di Surto awn. It oho the British 'seal bed phi bins* le lie vial la ellosibit imposts between the inl=ta et the Sera ant ammo sea robber odd Nes. Swell that Ise hardly alt Yea it the repranatative et Great Brisk, eat wee a se whim& fee salads ea the port etthe sale lewd. WM MRS MI the saes el the beams *Maul at Bakis, the THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY btratieel, bat — in lad Idthilliff . fflll MOIM111111111: Tian ou to the Pre.* share of the M. 4.14 who she shier steed, settled, but he midi me mak lord spoa Ifs having moo to a sar i s ties. The erne of the bleu of Cent and ociopied a emisierable ponies of tits hoick lord's speech, bat it apposed to his that tb. amble Iced had not Ma saisseesful la his attempt to establish the claim of Eng. land to those dependencies. If we kid cvalid claim to them, why lean it se Lag la abeyance ? The greet die fence was, that they were so inilleant, and of so little value to aaybedy, that I; had scabies thought meeneary, Ocatil retest oumnsaese is the islands, `to lay any 'UM to theta. He fund that the aoble hord's great halt was • potion for mutant interference. in the dome& effete, of renters 111111Strile ; is short, a sort of politkJ propagandism, winch was an to be attended with raisehief wherever it was put in attics. The noble lord la bound seder this error. that la interfering to promote what he unesived to be liberal institute.' in foreign roma• trim le was carrying oat something analogous to British liberty in those soentries, but instead of that he was, in tut, inoottragleg a jacobinieel spirit which led to laurrection and slouchy, wants, in the natural mires of thing., as tel toned by • reaction resulting la military governiasst. Such bad bun the 004111111 In every country to which the noble lord's interferon* had *stained. In Portugal the noble lord had sucended la overthrowing the govern ment of Dom Miguel, and new Costa Cabral was in power. In Spain the noble lord had tuned oat Dm Carlos and raised Dona. Isabella to the throne ; sad what had been the melt ? Not long atterwardo the noble lord, writing to Sir H. Balm, declared chat, after 34 years' etraggliag, Spain bead itself seder a govsemnat es arbitrary to fact—what ever it might be in theory—as at any_foruser period of her history. The noble lord seat Load Mingo to further tidal aleintive Worm there ; but any One who knew anything of Ow excitable people of that e untie might be own that =aid raver believe that Lord *Mint.'. al..ion was as that object. sod that those who wore lositicg IletteteMl So great political changes and the overthrowing of ohs adrift goverameat altogether would glither oncost -3111,1=1011111.11 his preemie. la Timmy, after Lord Mint, had hoen Ise Naas time in oomminioatios with the Dread Duk that &Mews@ mieveshoreg one to the red republicanof the balsa mesa Lord Mints went to Rome to angrst ad iinkarative Worms; bat not contest with advielap toe Pope, ha pia Whist] la communication with Cieereacebio, who w.aatthe head of Um extreme repablicans of the fauboarp, fled the anusiaatio. of Rosa( followed, the Pupa ass =sad a red republican 'overman was established, wring in brief hold of power, tailed itself with the deoggitaad wont of crimes. Well thee, too, alter a time, cam the natural reaction, a military government was sub stituted for the desurratic one, the perm of free honks. Mu was retarded, and all the noble lore's liberal chimeras vanished. Then, with regard to Sicily—and here he must say he thought the noble lord bid by no means justified him self from toe charges brought against bin by the right hon. baronet the member for Moon (Btr J. Graham) on this part of the ease—ke ticoogin if there woo aoythiag which eight to mike every Englishman look beck with pain and regret at the results of tne interfereace of the !noble lord in the affairs of foreign cusimies it was what bad t.k•n plies in Sicily. Toe Hog of Naples, it *p otent], invited Lord Nieto to give him &ivies. Lorl Pol. mention's instructsoas to Lord Mint. savoured of the most Mistily feelings towards that sovereign, but alterwsrds the noble lord timed round and adopted a course calculated to supplant his authority in a large portion of his dominions ; and, is fact. the Sicilian revolt brume identified with British interference. The noble lord wrote two letters, one to Mr. Abercrombie, the other to Lord Napier ; is the one oftener, on the part .1 Bagland, to acknowledge the Duke of Genoa as Kiag of Steily it ha w.uld accept the crows, and in the other, desiring Lord Napier to communi cate that fact if he thought fit to the Bieliaa parlia ment, which be did. Was this, he would ask mu nition with that stra , ghttorwerd, unaaabiguous, and Memo policy which it bad hitherto always been the pride of Englund to carry out? (Cheers.) Then, with regard to France, the colon lord had tended that he bad intuit red to effe ct the overthrow of M. Gu 7 zot or the French dynasty. (Hear, hear.) But he (Sir J. Walsh) believed that throughout Europe the opinion prevsiled that the noble lord bad had very mach to do with the keeping alive of that jecobinical spirit in France which had led to that result. (Oh, ob.) He feared that if the house, by aiming to its vote, completely i entifi d Atoll with the foreign policy of On noble lord (Palmerston) the consequence wouli be, that this feeling of irritation sad animosity, which was cot utilised to courts and governments, to mioisten. or iscilicisten, or szpectant mimeters, but which embraced whole popula tions, the eoustquence would be that England would be regarded as the patron and champion of the priceicles of revoluti in, and that at no distant time, perhaps, we might find that we had to 01111011111tf Oil longer the passive but the wine hostility ot saber nations. Bit 11. VEENEY expressed his belief that the eh quint speech delivered by the noble lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs world fly through Europe and produce result' of the greatest inaportuce. It would show that the minister of this country was not to be overborne by the cabal of fi_ 'Nip. powers and that the broad shield of British protection was 'vended over our subjects in distaat lands. The hon. member showed from yi- lasts communications that the legal and constitutional state of Greece bad fake' into deplorable anarchy ; and that the only means of obtain ing redress fir English subjects wee by toe stern hate mul lion of their owe government. The precedent now set would be of extensive value in our commercial relationship with other countries, as proving that the proter.ihn of the British crown ar.is extended over all its loyal subjects. Bir H. INOLIS said that if the question had b-en con field to Greece, he should not have felt the same difficulty in voting I. favour of the government, as he did now that the house was coiled en to declare their confidence in the satire foreign policy of the government. That mandate on the part of the boo. and learned member for She& It he could not obey. Neither could he agree in the terms on which the noble lord at the head of the government was daring enough t• rest his claim to confidence, namely, that he did aot iatend to alter his course in euisequeace of the resolution of the upper house. The noble lord at the head of the government had talked of the aeble lord the Secret'''. tor Foreign Affairs not being the minister of Fiasco or of Rotas, bat of England; if that sweat sorbing it meant this, that the noble lord and his colleagues were prepared to maintain any limed policy t h at they thought fit, even at the rah of drawing this country into' war. As regarded the put of the noble lord, the foreign secretary, he mutt say that he felt a deep and *medial gratitude to that noble lord for his constant sad whine rapport in one most important breach of it. He could never forget the noble lord's exer tions is Ow cause of the abolition of slavery, call his efforts to ulnae tie name of England Imo the foul blot of con. diving at that atrocity. He believed that the noble lard had done everything in hie power towards that end. But theu he was • member of a government, which, while it destroyed the slave Ueda with one head, were endeavouring to build It up with another, by encouraging the importation of slave-grown sugars. Oa that subject alone he (Sir R. Inglis) would feel hleamlf compelled to withhold his support from any resole tioa which gave uncoselifired praise to the foreign policy of the rummest. It did aot bosom him to say say thing of the unrivalled speech of the noble lord oa Tuesday night; unequalled it certainly war in parliameatary displays, sad as fez se he heard it it did sot esataia a tingle expression of pereoul battiest., or aesimoay. (Cheers It Ins seetaialy mu el the ignite* efforts ho had ever heard withia the walls of that 110111111, aced it wee therefore, with the deeper pain, although with the convi ction on his salad that be as beam right, and notwithstanding that he felt greatly indebted to the noble lord for his advoescy of the seppressiaa of slavery—it was, therefore, with the deeper learned pais lae fele it webs, his dve the neolulian al the hon. mad The Minns ef (BANDY thought the sae pieta sad medial entree would have beta to have ets And the anise to the sane bens ss that of the Rome el Lords. The settle lad, however, had freely availed Memel/ lof the nem of the onelalles sow proposed, aad hat frinalle4 ever the seadasst of Knape He did not nom to hollow die aihis lard doisitt his able, sad, as it had Justly been NUM, %Moaned speech. Bat this he most be peneftled to X;selhea the Who priatiple of that apnea was, that the if lio ltriostyi goveramat worn me of ifradin !Aeon, yen of %he Torii And it w:e gi t nue be heiiir mat the an is lines male. laisa with the allsissof east sesittrile lie ` ra j Motu s ot s , to thew bat Mete this country, that hews. oppdssd to the pen- eiplea samelated la tbe speech of the noble bed. - The noble narquie, having entered miss as ezuninatios of the nuns One trunnion is Greece, and exposed his regret that Lord Jobs Ramon should have &gaud iiiiiifer 1 ear foreign seerstary bemuse he war the 'Waimea het of Hank or Austria, bat of legless!, as it seemed W imply ' that there was eoesethiag astesealide is their haeasets, osselsdod by myna that be (Lord Greatly woe no , trio ad to the asendliallfra intringssos ef t 4 pe nal day ; bat b thlsight there 'was a weos the iqi whisk knew so fear ead di ti ld r.r ran the risk if wan The Ina. and leaned labeir br swam ellit thin to Mira '" That the' Mneiples es whisk the policy of her Majesty'. sorikiiirat her less tem= lam boss sash as were *Assisted to mantel& the ham/ sad dignity of this sot la *fret fit _slimudelPhil dilfraity. to preserTieat ". battens eni NM the seism manias el the Hi woo 1111111‘9111 al illyinnerfri_whisb naked the been to eeseeat to sad I 111611101 a. Was it not a fret"timi the Raeder Anbeendsr Ind infra three ;spade i.e,ls let WSW ediefrotlhis mettle 1301% pnesedleas. eau shin we am 1 bees waft a _ sheath einem aalhau s A a i s h as p aw Aemda k or *e ? if these wen fo i eloo r erda t h e i wei : Mks ede areelatint ? Adair 'the Welt of the sable Zhte latish aseilead that it led Gem raiedfreeted' rad Me 'sad 'fan the greater die Saeger to taw societal h i l l eiso L Isppeeleg abasatie Ind mann ht thaw farrirfie, air* the heskyng tees It rep gig it *eft as all ow dim (Hear, bees.) • . .1 -Sir Vi. 1d14.4P10,1114 aMesped the ' of a d im il ia fed soh every miles' if Singe was mien.; nelitaleiag that ifs vote of th e p een wit es loner, cis lannewe was eadtbd terevent II; set, al* Igo edsllserslbloat ea irmanfaLemeli aia . d nas 1 hallows frilbmipielle Orme In lei( p -- " a id reader the r e =Lessiseat at hone ks the by a Leaden piskpedies gm the i d i l s e rA d t s e b lT ferelea essally. Believing that ae mesa' of toadies would stale le previde the left and make sneer iG, JUNE 28, 180; sary M eapplam mush a W•able, the tiia. besseet a:gag that minsevet r Impilisigaseemd Mace aimed, ems if liaise a desptßlm lie hesberkse goveremant, he skeeld es, eept,es sa eesaelle onmsegnence of is chase, all the gamma edilletlitirdeg whimsy sets idgebservisat hmleglegted. Hs 'bleated to melee Ear. lemilbegniesseal ipsdeserieef eseetigatlesalime, anabolism d that the osly legitimate palsied billeasce which this poetry &mild exert ever ethers was that el sample without kneeler nees.-BenempledgE Ms egatlagewelee etiosigustiou eg dose lades gllempei• the seasegmeam Of ma estbealeisterial vote. be relied opus the bees of mobile opiate* tadteck say me ameba asodebehe r gels peetilmate mmeeseses. "ad, as a rapporter ef triennial liementio,c ml 4 not look with Ale agpobilion apes the el a Louse which had alreekly semplegglibr taiga yew of behlatles. With r t, • = I. L their 411111Milie palsy, bat with a dons hie owe inter* he should rote agals.st the reselatkikel the ben. megabei g he Sin Meld. Mr. 8 AD__. AIR expressed lb ointktiog that the policy of the Pordge &meter, bed received the approbat io n of the public at home, sad etas salsolsled to peewee the dig sky of Noshed sad *gab* fd hw solOseis greed. Ile contended that a British sable* ebeged seght age ii be is a worse porta= than when residing at hems; and that although nen-interferene• is the Internal slabs of other ' , ldioms was the rale, eireememnose alight render it inaixtesi. We to refrain from isterfeteses. Upon these two groudds be defended at some length the foreleg policy of the govern meet, which wee entitled to the lomat of the.. interested is the domsg prosperity of Reiglead. It the motion were TIME!, it would be tantamount to a surrender of the protection of British subjects abroad; the policy of Bugled would be changed, and frets inedtmions throughout Ws world would mein a disastrous *heck. Mr. 8. HERBERT, Is tic outset of Ids 'emelt, defended Si, J. Graham warn the refleo ion of Lord Palmerston in relative le his despatches to Mr. Bulwer at Madrid, end then turned to the atalre ef Italy. He described the tor rape awe of the Siam stmorameet at the sonnies of the Pope. whim ads Alegi in his ~twins was to movers $ bad despotism into • pug eae. He nem adverted to the stein of Lombardy, • the Austrian 'putt from the de ague upon Serails bed to it by Lord Palmerstos, whom he aniseed of separdp Momenta contalaieg groundless charges made by powers. The mission of 1 4 ord Mists, seimm=il ke l a saislat•rprined by the Ilahla People, hod a moo lid am spat the progrom of sound memitatioael reform his malamute phew, the independents, of Italy," had only ohm meaning there—the • ',magma of foreigners. Mr. Herbert detailed the proceed lap of Lord Mints at Naples, the result of which was to disappoint those who bed betted for the. e atensioc. of tem perate oonstitutional Mem U tine was sunk under a grinding military despotism. Pinola had obtained liberty without the assistance of Lord Palmerston, aid what was the condition a all the countries which had been cursed with hie aid/ He called open the house to mark its disapprob a tisn of a policy whisk had tended to lower the public cha racter of this nation, and mreaMd a detestation of the British mass. Sir O. GREY-1 feel that it would be tannecesesry, and I am sure it would be disagreeable, If I were to occupy the at tention of the Issue for say lengthened period, in the funter vindication of that policy whist has been ao ably elucidated by my sable friend - th e - Foreign Minister of this coun try, as the foreign policy of the government of which he is so distinguished a member. (Loud cheers.) The question before the house, u is new preen, generally understood, is not • question of mere petty, and minute details, or of insignificant and isolated transactions. It is not a question as to any partieu- I th act which may have bun committed by my noble friend, during the lug period In which ha has presided over the foreign affairs of this country. It th not a question as to particular despatches or particular treatise which may bays been scrutinised by hostile eyes, but it is a question, as sated by the hon. and learned member for Shi Meld in his opening speech, of principle, of the principles upon which as a general rule the Weiss policy of this great country should he coaducted. The hon. and learned member talked the house fairly whether they outsider the foreign policy of the goveronsent cm the whole to be deserving of approval, or whether it merits the censure and dipapprobetiou of the boom. When I say it is not a question of ;Articular despatches, I must stop for • moment to notice two charges, one made now for the first time, but the other having beim mentioned before. I allude to the charges made of the sup premien of the desprech frem the Austrian cabinet ; and also that relating to the presentation of Mr. Wyse's de spatch, in which that gentleman vindicates himself with the honest indignation of English feeling, when • charge is made against his honour. (Loud cheers) With respect to the fact, the right boo. gentlemen seems to forget the core.- plqe esplanatios given by my noble friend, neatly, that the existence of that despatch was well known, and that it might have been asked for and obtained during any period of the six menthe. (Dissent from the conservatives.) With regard to Mr. Wyse, the right hon. gentle man seems totally ignorant that Osoeral La Hine, in the ktter he addressed to H. Drouyn De Lou;., distinctly charged 'gala* him (Mr. Wysc), and the chsrge was generally adopted by the papers, that while the bthie o: thee:catenation Alfa well known at Athena, he re fused a short delay, in order to give time for the arrival of the stutter, knowing that she would have the ratifiesiioo of the treaty on beard. The right boo. gentleman omits all men:ion of that fact now, and says that it was pitiful con. drat in my noble friend to product a despatch iu vindication of Mr. Wyse. I believe that that despatch was conclusive in his viedication, as showing it was physically impossible he could have had the Information imputed, and it was laid on the table in vindication of an abused public servant, whose aoaduct and good faith had been uojustly aspersed. (Hear, hear.) S 3 far then I am inclined to differ from the right hon. gentleman io thinking that the Woe will impute any blame to my noble friend. On the contrary, I thine he would have been open to their censure if he tad not used every means to clear the character of • pubii: servant. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the general principles, the hon. and learned member stated them fully at the commencement of his speech. He said that they were divided into two classes; or rather, that the policy of the government affected two classes of cues. First, those eases which concern the rights of every British subject residing in a foreign country; and, secondly, the general vindicatith at the honour of this nation. It is true that the former may often merge into the latter, while the latter may often be important, although not affecting the rights of iadividuals. The wrongs of individual British subjects, when incapable of re drew before the tribenula of the country is which they have occurred, become questions of national interest, and must be 19 treated. (Hear, bear.) Notwithstanding the doc:rines which have been laid down in this and the other house of parliament, I believe it to be the imperative duty of govern ment to afford protection to every subject of this country, no matter what may be his station far creed. All that we have to consider, in my 'vision, is whether he has received injury front a foreign state, and Was been unable through the Mi sery proms of their laws to obtain redress. (Cheers.) It the principle is to be limited in the way it has been proposed in the other house of parliament, then I fay there is an end to that security In British power and British promptitude, from which has warp British en. teepee*, and ad the wonders that have been achieved by the commercial spirit of this country in every part of the world. (Cheers) Applying this rule to I will say, vrithcith going into minute details, that it was 0ct..,,t until every other means had been *Austad that reopens was bad to anything having the character of coercive sseararte. Applications ware made in the gouts of law, and friendly remonstrances to the government, until the postponement of justice be came its virtual denial, and years had slaps, d before an appeal was had to the last resort I mast confess my surprise at the (marten from which blame has come upon the conduct of the government, We have beard more t ha n once how other countries have shown lase fothearathie—both France and the United State,. Theis:measures were at one* successful, whereas it would appear u U the forbearanoe of Ragland had led to the hops that ourethe measure* would resorted to. (Hear, bear.) To that alone can I &Mimi:, the surprise whisk has arisen at Our bkieg means, even of the most 'moderate kind, to procure re dress ter British subjects abroad. (Hear, hear.) But, without going to foreign I:vestries for examples of prompt. museum, I may refer to one or two instances at home which show that forbearance and non-resistance, negotiations oe appeals to local tribunals no setter bow corrupt, were not Kleine the remedies prop osed by members of the party to which the right boa. gentleman belongs. In 1540 Lord Lyndhurst, whom It is impos.ibls to nese It i.h out respect, especially when discussing questions of Interna tional law, brought uader the notice of the Howie of Lords Um wrongs which had bees (silisted oa British merchants in Sialy by the Neapolitan government. Did he recommend aegodation f Did he depprreeaate any resort to force 1 No; when Lard Melboaruemfdthata gentleman had bean mat out to make inquiriee, sad that ametiose were pending, Lord Lyndhust's answer woe, _Oak dic ships of the line would settle the wan is IsHiMgM. (Hear ) That was the opinion of Lord Icy keg se to the esarse government ought to take ea mask temlispe. (gem.) One gentleman has declaimed whist sidle sling as a propageadist, ready to stir up sad strife In every corner oi Marope;; but I ask, la whos eons bas undue Wagered** bees setabUshed i 'When hes wee been any dictation ea oar part to tie lona ef ' goverasseat to b e esomblistmid? Oa the tealeiny, It the period of the m e i * *. el 1544 wire as. the most distinct ] samininle, gives titbit amble Mead ea the subject of inter. amosiud ema rot (gar, howl Ham we interbred with the Fr el of asywbore elm pima Macedoine of ghat, el whidi so smut eemplelat has bees made ear ci b i air, ' Bat my noble trliad has beta at tasked es &amble t, sad allesiess have Irma suds to dilemmas of , ea MOW s of policy between mem bers el the ems L A speak of Lied newish's has bees it ; r ea ssembly my noble Arland. Bat it maid sot ham , to thd pest, became Lard Sankt Will klid i a . Soar palm is the estinet wlth my sable Bore the highest testimosy to his q . Lai Hewlett must have bum , la • • kir remarks by slate s = :4,.. • • datum period. (A kVA.) I wail ille Hat dps , potiamea--alikesigh it is pe k e, 2 , arailortplisaMit ii( dies—that missy ready Is Impliort blat, were then kindest in adi amir tik ay =,, them lint me word po the: olt Led wielt kat bariham with the .114 pia Mead, ns,und se t: theatim illi e = elikbi " mum ........ dies m 'may milreat fr.,l7:= thaw.. bps proud Irtlite prase posisimat= heck) It soapy is sat onatimuisd Vat a lirsta rigromppi the Wonsan of Wee emeatry is le keep hiollps gibs; 411/010/ dosed, while sharps are Oat ea is *am= cililat may althearsly mid seriously Waal Os et Boolaadi het by yirisy Wilful repreasatarisii eTE *elm of the people of this country, he slimy Tea a the... et area* revelatisa and dismiss Maass*. The pay while the prom (minnow hoe posowed, i and whisk .my noble friend has ably tarried out, bee ever been loupe* out fell y end openly the feelings of the Bridge , government, sad the Geldings, as I believe, also of the great holy ot the people of England—(oksers)—whenever the intereets or boned of this countr y render such expression se oessery,, or who. the advice of this country has beta asked by say foreign power for its guidasee, in a period of us e ism pled difficulty. And Mem woe dm t tasezanipled difficulty " remind ate of • reference made by the hon. sad learned member for Abiagdoa to the words of the resolution. He, good innocent man, occupied with briefs, sad not extending his Inquiries beyond Westminster-hell during the lest tour yeses o -(t Hear," and a laugh)—bas asked when had been the circumstances of difficulty, for he knew of none. He bad not heard of the noble lord beingsarroanded by revela tions?* mob* in Downing-street. Why, then, h. 'Aid, had he not left Europe , ' to take can of itself? (Hear, pear.) Bet is that the way is which the foreign 'religious of this country ate to be eondmted ? Ate there no eases is which the honour sad dignity of the country require this *I should take part in the affairs of foreign countries, toilets we would be altogether isolated and skat out from all voice in those Whinges in which we, to common with the powers of Europe, are deeply con tented, and in which. as I am reminded, we are hound toe by treaty to interfere? (Hear, hear.) I must say, notwithe standing the opinion of the roe. and learned gentleman, that, looking at what has occurred in Europe during the last two or three years, it was under circumstances of no or dinary difficulty that my noble friend hes had to conduct the forma effsin of this country, and I gladly avail myself of the opportunity thus afforded me, not only to impress the great personal regard and esteem which every one who has the pleasure of his friendship or acquaintance must entertain fur him, but my admiration of the extraordinary energy, the conspicuous ability, and the cesselos vieilanes he has displayed in the conduct of the foreign affairs of this sociaetry under circumstances of un exampled difficulty, and avowing as, full end entire con currence la the general principles which have regulated the policy of toe government in that department which has been under his control. (Hear, hear) The foreign policy of her Hejesty's government has been generally this, to inter fere with regard to foreign countries to the leas; poesio e ezteht—(bear, hear)—not to interfere at all with the form of government they may wish to adopt; but when our ad. vice is eked, to tender the best advice we can, and by that advice assist if possible in averting such disasters as have in some instances occurred, establishing Orestes which may be tottering on • more sure foundation, by pro moting principles of good and constitutional government, by opposing despotism on the one hand and anarchy on the other. (Chime) Such have been the principle a on which my noble friend has acted, and looking at the circumstances of difficulty kis has had to encounter, I de not think coy man could come out of the ordeal to which my noble friend bee been subjected unscathed. Two years ago we heard au estrous predictions of the imminent danger of war—indeed we were told by many that a general European war wee in evitable. (Hear.) Have those predictions been realised? (Hear.) On the contrary, has not the peace of Europe been maintained ? (Cheers.) I do not mean to say there have not been conflicts in particularplacen, but there hes been no g 1 European war, and I toy that it Is mainly to the efforts of my noble friend that the greatest evil that could befall the world has beta averted. (Loud cheers.) I appeal to the right hon. gentleman himself to say whether the position of Europe at this moment is not mors treequii than two years ago any thinking man would have believed it would be at this time. (Hear.) Well, then, the peace of Europe has been asintained, and I firmly believe that, not withstanding what has occurred, the principles of constitu fiesta government are at this moment making way against despotism on the one hand and anarchy and confusion on the other, in most of the principal states of Europe., and that after passing through • crisis of no ordinary character, but one that presented circumstances of unexampled difficulty to there who bad the administration of for. ign affein, I do believe there is at this moment more hope both for the people and the government in every country in Esrope, than at any former period. (Cheers.) I hold it to ' be alike the totemic and duty of the government of this country to maintain the most friendly relations with every state in Europe—(hear, bear)—but not by the sacrifice of the rights of Britieb subjects—(mar, hear)—and still Ass by the sacrifice of national interests, national dignity, and national honour. (Cheers.) The question ye • are now called upon to decide invelves serious results, and I would warn those who may be inclined to oppose the reso:ution bow they encourage the opinion that there is to be a total change of principle in the conduct of the foreign relations of England, and that the future minister is to take at. pi which 1 believe will be fatal to the interests and character of this country, or how far that vote may load foreign nations to treat with ind.fference the rights and claims of British =b locs in the t spettatioa that one er both how's ot parliament will condemn by • vote of censure the course the Hitish minister may have thought it his duty to pursue in enforcing ! those claims and enforcing tnem succ,ssfully. (Hear ) I hope hon. gentlemen will take these matters into their serious consideration, and not, by their vice to-night, or by fh it language in this house, lead foreign nations to aupp se that England, enjoying herself a great and free conatituticr.—a constitution won for us by the struggles of our ancestors, and cherishtd by us from our experience of its value—that we have become indifferent to those principles by which we are reserved from the evils ot absolutism or anarchy, and which I I believe to be essential to the honour and character of the country. (Loud cheeis Mr. GLADSTONE wished to make one observation on the position the government bad assumed. A vote had passed in another place impugning the noble lord in regent to his con. duct as to the affairs ot Greece. The first miaister of the crown made no sign on the passing of that vote, but whon he was at length brought forte from his silence on the 601.'Ct he told them that the government did not intend to re,ieu their offices—(hear, hear)—or to alter their policy—(hear, hear)—or to take any specifi: course whatever in corm- , quince ; but at the same time, sail the noble 1.4 d, •• I admit the vote which has been arrived at by the other house is an event of the gravest character, and the foreign policy of the country, must, under the influeeee of that vote, be carried on in future with crippled reseurcts and impaired power." (Rear, hest.) New he (Mr. Gladstone) protested against that ductrise. (Opposition cheers) Teat the noble lord, as the first 'sinis ter of the Crown, and the representative of the great dais party, with ell its Eistorical traditions, should coats thin and say &vote has passed one branch of the legislature which will take from the government the power with which it ought to be armed in conducting the foreign affairs of the country, and we will remain nevertheless ad. via-r 1 of the Crown, but will not in any way alter the policy which hes occasioned that vote, woe certainly surprising to him. (Hear, hear.) Another noble lord quoted the precedent of 1710, when the ii,iuse of Lords resolved that no peace should be made with France on the basis of leaving Spain and the Indies in the hands of this house of Bourbon. But was that any pre cedent for the present ease? This was no specific resolu tion as to any future policy. The House of Lords had not here attempted by their resolution—as in the case to which the noble lord referred—to fetter the executive government as to Muir future course, or to deprive the crown of the power ot considering the terms of any treaty, but had merely discharged its duty in pronouncing a verdict and judgment on the policy chat had been pursued. (Hear, hear.) And what was the other precedent which the noble lord quoted? The ease of Portugal in 1833. In 1833 they had • vote which he took to be equivalent to the present—that was a vote of censure come to by the lords, and immediately the govern went had been challenged in the House of Commons, whether they intended to alter their policy in consequence. But the doctrine of the noble lord was to look to the hon. member for Bucks to reinstate the government in their con stitutional position. (Hear.) But why was he to move in the matter ? He conceived the hon. member for Bucks was not no ill satisfied with the vote of the lords as to wish to disturb it —(" bear, hear," and a laugh)—but the government, who were dissatisfied with it—they (the ministers of the crown) knowing that no ministry could satisfactorily conduct the affairs of the country with crippled powers, why did they not seek to disturb it ? Why leave it to the hon. and learned member for Sheffield to bring them out ot the dilemma ? Well, the hon. and learned member for Sheffield bad come forward, but had he proposed • vote contradictory to the vote of the House of Lords—(hear, hear)—had he thought it prudent to raise the same Ode ? The hon. and learned member had Ailed the ism, and not, be apprehended, without • sufficient reason. (Cheers.) Why all this no wil liagnes to meet the disousion on the affairs of Greece ? (Cheers from the opposition.) Why, after the hon. and learned gentlemen had given notice el his motion ; and the hos. and learned member for Youghal gays nodes of an amendment which would have raLed the precise issue on which the I House of Lords bed voted—why was that amendment withdraws. And with whet benevolent intention had the hon. member for Montrose given notice of his amendment that " this house, taking into consideratioa the gametal policy of her Majesteeloverament ander eircumstasess of diffi culty, is Mc • that, on the whole, it is calculated to promote the t interests of this country, at home and stbroad, and therefore is prepared to continue Its confidenee fa her Majesty's present ministers?" Thetis were remarkable words, " on the whole." (" Hear," and • laugh.) Might he vaster* to construe them ? He ecnotrued tbesato mad that, "es the whole," the hon. member was not prepared to say that the policy which had been condemned in the Hods of Lords had been conducive to the interests of the country. (Hear, hear.) All these dr eantsOusess combined le show the selected, to meet fairly end broadly the discussions' the affairs of Greece. (Hear. hew.) Bathe could see a reason for all this shifting—a legi timate and obvious purpose—but, at the same time, a purpose which should be brought out and placed before the country. There was a general Peeling that the noble lewd (Palmer ate.), while be had many sources of peculiar weakness had alto nosy owns of podia neagth. There was • dad meat Naomi hie own friend* that the noble lord was not al. together • prudent man in the management of the foreign Witty of this comets, (beer, and " oh ") • and that when ever the adminietredos of our *digs ado was in his hands we were not for from the verge of war. (Oh, oh.) This was the weakness, bat, ea the other hand, the labia lord keel a ammo of . strength is the hales, In thaw who Winked to , propagate, by an extended use of the tames, of this SOilerry, tbeb own political etiolate imam die abase of Estop*. (Ohm's.) la the ease of Green the aside teed bad netiallefesed ea the side of liberty, and he theoght 4* was bet very far mow in saying that It was Umtata "alerts extead the bed sad to dieekleb thistles'. =tithe a phieloc4's reednis , the 'fatal et Greece, by is kis ferns' all tb• sympathies of that party who sappelled the noble lord- fa so he as they believed he was desirous of pa.-sWeg whet we. sitdowased es the popu lar grkelak of rierwasseat. The ,esteeposoas was that they had to awes* Ibis question nailer this dissdnatsge, that the event of it was sad a. to Maisel the patience of the 'aquiver and the Mead. Filetthey ham to deal with j the Greek gentles which se for as was known of Ile sublet:4 I matter was gtea apart from queerness of demote" govern- I Mar Or freedom from foreign interveation. Bo far as Grams :Tr.; inee:imeetalednuarngelayidir,uail•hper:qt.stuesfor...iotioifintoilrasiriilts:ne..z_bofit;e:.. thaluptlmminnwaiistebiattiitneilapkissesesagaer.:sierstiporferoGt:4l.driieraciquecelialieuiemd,:ilLitsilyils:haenildruhadro:a,4r, i l tu ' il it e u: : l4 :_tt t .Bo a ( t n i k h .tpt.t..4 :: a :_ a t n ,h . l e rr e rert e_ .. ._ : :: meei w P eig lit i h ia t renhddat, atmhaieardenneleynr,t,thtehwee"he'tha:":::thtd4t'raewinanikaa".f:: T i domh s eis ke ntote rei h ry. o th u Ps ome s : e ye s Rhoda. ought itdro Europe, p et o s e ri ol a n dn t i e ld ioi e tog r w h e ad i th e , th l y " f ths r to goalless the policy which t ad been njl e .,, lbn4 af, Grease by reference to what other count, - all events, he said that if they were to b e t t as ißeataw bNn iu give, ld r. s o h w i y nn . n a ho t.dwaisfe'ai excitedwb e t e h b. :: n: s r ka e ia rl involved pot`onue t he therha t e e t c ° o i precedent t i f t ( a . 1 t e r f l a t .66 Bit a ble4‘ id i o That was not a I l e .ftaeoni. Prlets'hpelver":l4btrra.htatirlinjhttu;:t. e u.gegrner: fr d om them to interfere the OMNI' of d arbitrary notions. The cons•rueton of t judged by Europe to Ise with the noble l Gladstone) was now afraid the: the voi ce en affect(); mae tu e decidedly e:l i t, d h.ti e hebf d aea l :d. ee hue pftYouwrt agai nst e u e b . . ly s a o: s 1 noble l or d e am o by . ) w "a a t y e tWi le t t 4. 1 ; I ° l ki t e an'ac: : : a': n t e '. he wsuld 4 ease, but that apoloerusight have been got wi t wit been asked for in a decisive ma- it, wittin-at but that had not been done. There was • a t lrg and refused, then our case would borer! d.ll d ii n r y d 1 p chamber uubmWiith taking ei yit w ail P i e c a mt la wha p .sen b . 7,:llridlibeeutonrehgutaimphieset hear . ) e nt : t eb, t r e h an is.,:r e t eio t per t hh ywrl TiaHaewnaßits. expressed t. lonian ep e e . interests s g t o ta abe r s :o cit : : : tb ha p o Ye hn e ret a i f a lk eod dh r l a ' p a c a dittgit affair. I. tu u e' .r The o.n. . J P . br e a l ,fd ija m ss t , . ) ;: r e been proteetieg their interests Bier : e s , , in d • we might have looked for support. Thse - - They did not exactly make ' compl•int tt lord, but they rend, red him lithe thank, . ee said that they could not pees by in silent grief which the whole of ttit between her Majesty and the x.. 4 t more so because it had been aleged that 1 formed a part of the doff, ratites with ee eee , em in' subject. But, without going into bewii would proceed to the nseio issue which the it statement had been forwarded by a t An eharacu.r, and who had been sceused 'hi of nia having been severely tortured an I without raising any questions a, to tee e. rye plaint, wrote back • letter which he (lb % unwilliug to read In dotal!. lie sec, Went had learned with reek: snit barbarous outrage committed ee the also said he had hoped that sur..l pesctic ceased to disgrace the conduct of Ott of Greee lie moreover iestiucted S r 1 from the Greek government the a.a .41 , 3 alleged to Lave been concerned in •h.• toe ment of compenaation to the man, ati, settlement of these demand,, should be re the next psi ket. The house might bee- I. which M Or. had not formed in E • (Irenicsl laoghter fr m the minie•eria E. impartial position; and let him (Me. Gi this. tact it they had any regard for the rP, ract:r of Eeglind, they cou d cot par.', sighted policy then first of all to aece,o. tie , partieuLtr power, then to admit that t: at j u • well qualified person to admin'eter t g thee, wits n they were diesatisfisd with I:.at tratmc, to raise • taunt and • sneer *gems. cheers from the protection's e ) Did th-yr coo: of the principles of Great Britain—was ir exec re ie. and conducive to peace, That when the e a man, steamed of theft, and comol wining of •or• , the noble lorl, a peremptory demand thou . ... for compensation and the dismissal of the ere, that one o: the princi; les on which the poitcy e, should be conducted r (Hear, bear.) The nob ing thus b. gal in vied nee, shifted to the gr land sod here he (Mr. Gladstone) was willing to admi might have been wrong dont to the man. (Ch. ministerieds a) The noble lord came at that wh•ch Le ought to 'sieve done at wro e a letter ou the 30th of Jo statieg that her Majesty's government dere , the circumstances of Samachi's ca.o should 0 impartially investigated. Nothing could be ir rand pr.pet than tnat letter; be, letter t r ir q airy, in Aiagust, and teen, another letter for redress in J cowry, h. judgment in August, and in the denial:, I again, admitting that the eircumstenri. • into, ar.d that they resuired 'manic on unreasonable ground, aid position to reason, strange d c rhF e iyi a tedn e e l h.: M y en ntn to ti same c .up t an .mt country. t ac o s t g i.Bo e na t nt e idta r h. . he to ' t main wished e the prii.ciplis involved in those cases. 'T h the noble lord's proceeding was ectirele c Finlay 's c se. It was evident that Mr. f resperebility, an: waether he w dirermi have the best price for his lend wire eu • I the hcu.e had no right to examine. was siiieg to admit that Mr. F.e. ai jast—(nit later al cheers)—and that t;c of the Greek government were in th- fire! t • fiat's, it' not shim,:;—(renewed C that ea•e came this grand question---tose wet • of British subjcvs domiciled in useeier.cion— • yarned r Were they to be governed b• the • tries in which they lived, or, it these laws hi.. • emetic agency then to interfere ? This wire :- question that might be lees festinating to cer• . yowler (pointing to the:lower end of the nrietefe. than the grand one of propagating it wee one which lay at the foot of foreign relations. Every ecuatry bid , ascertain urea what principles henceferw it ' e. regulate the condition of British subjects don . The hon. member for Oxford, however. to. t t,et law of Greece was not appicabie c .c t sod that the Greek goeemse. t t.a •i• s nested to him that be ought to apply to the •• Now it eo huppened thae there was ort - by the Greek government is which they not re„ r :. the legal tribunals. In pages 16.23. and 41 of the book there were to be tound letters from the tire g ment, and in every one of them he dui heed t Er had recourse for his remedy to the :ere: .1 laugh ) He uuderstood that .aec: .; .h it presumed it would be said—" ti: s ref to the tribunals—we do not !whets the Gi•-. but then Mr. Finley himself admitted that gone to the tribunals no.) Ile was air must read the passage. Mr. Finlay had advac:ea why be should no: go to the tribanals—(losel cher:, the 'tat was .he hon. and lren^d ma. for tiouthampton )C1011111), who just now se.:eri going to fete off on the feeh!e cry that there were 'toe: ne. son. why it was not expedient for him to go be . re fe• legal triounais Ii the tribunals were compitcnt. Led to did not go Adore them, the case of the at bit lord. ir toii:•3 bottom was +rood, and if the tribune:3 were e •erJr . . Er should have gone before them and shown their comae:in. Ih f e th wi e an y w d ee s e ho w w ea n k only principle on w ila h nh ic de h e at " any action he brought must piss over the ar.etrary b reirute d tau te e alt nlay of his property." (Lewd mideteriel eheere.) Tee marl y , Hueu h idte e lllrett s • ho mon u ra l r dh ankt a .hi 7 t . :0 t t ' h our taiku'i price. ni m t. invitation arbitrary o h tih n i a : ; n the b r sesuibajuecr:of domicile d thts p repe li rt b r : atee w aw: as tebbl'ecto n o lenient in the [la. Mr. was entitled to any 'di I considerstioe en ',engra ft, : is le t u to ons the land taken from him without ho t seizu re.Griji of l ail h is e Ttf: not of e n eAeh d et iwmeaawa Athens weree a n owalis e taa l a t k4: , :7:. whether itetteheteidal at w . : 1 ; 4 ; delayhanesrd m.oofme assumption, btrrhlan h ;g o i i w anhi e gra v y e b w , nTa a was tce i m o:nn o ur before de t fd h oh a rre n s s:_ . I .li p t: g liwe ;a' : :a st. an court ( m.tantamountolaast Gladstone) e ha d d e denied never • a n a e g l d le e g la al y, delay which did not amount to a denial ofjustace tor a ; • case which never d w id as (Hear, hear.) Mr. Finlay advanced a third rev. ' ?. follows: " I believe 1 cannot be called on to eye the Limit government in its own courts so tool arum retains the power of changing the is.rrri rw l ,"._ be nibdoe h tic e t day to day.' Was this the reason why he dad .., s7 before the tribunals ? If so, how far was the num.: a ar e 'c. tt w o en r for • o l a r e e ; :l y at w ha s e l a u t t c h er h :. l7 :ese s te po n' e i sha g e p e l a ntelii : . . l reach? He understood that is France only sou: at judges held their offices during good b 'hammy.. the general rale on the continent was, that ter ex TT; held their °Moe, at the will Of the seprent r e seer the state. The principle. theref ore. w ell, Leo, to the judges, was t ustenahle. (these.) maid it be held that the tribunals were ems P';__7 theesfere that Ike ewe Gould not be taken Waal ir e TM sable kart Minded kis right so take the eases al 1: eableeta deenisiled la Owen* out of the cogait dem Lt."! *Maury tribassh. He wished, therefore , to c all the to ch at a stect of Greek territory mahjong of this country ,se '4 ma kra w lei t oie thilen . sd a ci a agri t r i b , h ap a l r aj t .s t I r e • t ilt h il t ; t r c. b s i ;21: should h o l ofd, ..ems.(it tg h uthi a t: ea t e coh h y o7 ; l ‘ fe terse id ene fall geatastisa to lila sad property, should D .. ew ernr wy male is the marts of justice. sad be at libm'l '" , ,, Lees j :Lagllednemise orogen* they might wader , beat e_•,ho' their interests, it Miss mdersto ad that to: ,D slalom la this respect tat the obligations Imposed dee subjs.% by the lam of the troantrf, and that seneesseid tlw adminietraties of justice tbey a i t joy the sue privileges, rights, and franobiere —Nee , eo you to the natives." Aid yet in the ease of fl h ° fOrCV oo nili ald tag asesse arne y , o atur ar ow y n ou ditas had age b l i , d ou yo el erse sto u ed by t treaty i Hcs' z ho, or lord eartiotio tide V -+. ila Ifii oasalloalkat filar — AO.* with alb 111/mealy a ni t a taa tit tios, ail allboaTl atm go ter ao oak mat Ober ) It Was adt worm to se die =NI s hat ha vit am in a he 0 ... hia Felt Miss to tomplaht alr the it the aoblo WA la withholtiag from It lidtrurica s is Mr. Fialay Imolai amass Ad to • •arbetratos. It was we that tho_ noble_ lord . but neuttesed the sr- .—. de n to DI tat ba s k' fa. n 1 frei n te ti : the —ttee4tit:t"7-74 see o f *b th, h- 91 atkyf .e: wi ehe eat.) ▪ " , 111 fnT el•opr. 1,4 , Is At. of jr ' t the ord, of E.„ 4 _• 4 1. ue F - to F•ir ." sh, "sect., t 1 4'ol Ity ritt mti! , l,;4 4 : P:V.V7 z , i4,114 F, u it we e L' i 4 1141 .1 t m:▪ 4‘ t C ‘:1" 1• 41 4:11; .'14: 1 1 1:. e tt , rm. that dent he hqua. h t it A. n of 4 :warn heft, c eel:444g the n 1,41, te the j ‘%110) wy Ruretz• • z:14141 the atl fie ••• tLe.4 L.l ; .*'• :erkal.4 " '• •ri g pal. r, T!.; ' 7 • imp.r ; ▪ t•