The Express. — London, England, 1861-05-14 00:00:00

. . _ 4 THE !•'.....1CPR ESS, TUESDAY EVF.)iIi, , r.G, MAY 14, 1861. . _ ... th • soil Lila sire flat I shall rely take cheers.) He (Mr. Macaulay) was contest with having made mire big vote he gave it with • most perfect knowledge of tleman thee read a letter dated the 10th of May, 1861, in regard to any one of them exercise one of the most impel.. say ru ts , { •• tempt., q .LANDED PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT, &c. sine.k a coarse .., the pot& analogs requites. lam Inn kbolini to tits house the fact. of the cam, but he was not the subject. (Hear, hear.) which the comninsioners expressed their regret that they tent duties that devolved upon it. Was there any founds- (IRELAND) BILL. &m g so with o ut grave roluederatiesi and csiiii'lllatitli. and • the only member who knew Mr. Steumt, and had known Mr. If. SMITH said that he saw the hon. member for were tumble to comply with the Speaker's wish to give him tion for the ambiguous but at the are time menacing This bill was read • IMMO' time. when I h.rar „La n ( il k - fa. I• ei thse east I thilik the home I him for) ears, awl three menden ceuld, as well as himself, Cambridge immediately after the division, and et that time' an assurance that steps hod been taken by them to prevent statement the Chancellor of the Exchequer had made' will ...y ti e r I hare rigid rielitiv is the some* which I ant ishona the Imo. mid laerued seemlier fur Sheffield, that he certainly was in as sound a state of mind as any other the recurrende of stay such event aa that which took place There being no cause why the home should not exercise the COMBINATION OF PAHLSIIKS DISSOLUTION BILL pseiag• m ew . mu, y ea r. a r o, Mr. Audit, fitemert r the I Mr. Steuart was on the meting of thedivisioo as lane ands' bon member. (Hear , hear.) The boo. gentleman cent.' on Thursday, the 2od of May. right of dission and there haying been no extravagant use This bill also passed through committee. k,,,, ter i ..„,b ra t s ,., ~... ...fortunately *Mined with I well in health Os an y mender of that house. Whatever out of the lobby with him, and afterwards set by his side The SPE.tKER then put the Question, whether the of discussion, b ' wome they were coosidering the budget of MARKETS (IRELAND) BiLL. herb fever, and that left upon his onetitution repeitatioa he hin m elf mi g ht 1 1 ,,ve he would wake liv ii wit- Rud declassed the topics. 0( the evening with great clearness. motion should be withdrawn. (L ou d „ r u e o f "N o, " an d the minister or d er circumstances under which a bufrit had a ... w oo ilityll ... • liability to yams, om of I , Om to that fart. (Opposition cheer, ) He ehreahl mote nu He cold not agree with the boo. member for Derby that " Divide.") unsaity. •%el • eir, this hen, gehtlemae has a 1.,. th a t o h meno tio• on the hon. a nd ', a n t ed r.ien i b e e s motion. that s id e of the hones ought to feel obliged for this motion. Mr. CONINOHAM trusted the hon. and learned mom- never before been cousidered, he asked what ground s there This bill was read a second time. were for asking the house to come to • precipitate decision. The house adjourned at half-past one o'clock. ,„„ e i ssr it y w hi r l, hkii not lisen mobbed to hint. but sisk, I Had it failed of d modeler he should have stet oded it him- (Hear.) He thought they would have preferred labouring ber for Sheffield would not force the house to divide. He begged the first minister to consider this. If it was his A• 11314 141. 1....... 11 , All Itell . lollit ll . I.IIA. hose 1,41 tIIA, Ide i s e lf, i n or ,k r t h at h e m i g ht h ave an opportunity of nuking melee the imp utatiote referred to than that, this gentleman M r . ROEBUCK-C er t a i n l y not. opinion that the other house was to exerc i se no jurisdiction k ,d hair. Linil.. win , ' the I . rulOirill d h . s ot . ' w '' . ‘ . . 111 I • few oheosateme. Ile should only e xpress his r e gr e t that end iii. family should have been subjected to the annoyance The inotiou was then put, and negatived without • upon the question under the discussion of the House d MA RKETS. *Meted in toe cam way-- that is to my a eon of fereknow.l the lino. and learned member should hose yielded to the of a public discussion on the matter. glum, hear.) Any di v i s i on . Comeau let it be so. He would admit the whole ledge that ii., loal..,•lo 515 et. 1.113, upon biol. anal that anenntodialle infhienee which prevented his seeing that thing more painful -more harrowing to the feelings of that this C hia tcS . TOMS AND INLAND REVENUE BILL. ease of the government on this occasion-he would admit his nave-. •otiht he by this greet robe ti o u taken away from the home and the public could dispense with these public te t name at n a ard h te n family u,ieoee ta be et e l ou o l i d ie n e ot conce i ve , ot a ge n..l . he to was hist This tossitleio in. ardor ; this 1 srukoan was eimoug details of private sal melanc!erly istfitetsous. Chemist kiss , him went to .4 homed keeper of a looetic ass lure eke I:. C. LEWIS -In the present state 0( our informa. gained by each a motion. (Hear . hear.) The right lion. be upon the order a {he day for the .o of that aot itwas t to heutidetiiisidenght h r il if le. th: or H t o aea use th of e Co M m o Commons, LONDON LONDON WEEKLY DOCK RICTURN&-Mae 11. good IF merely originate motley Lords must pas* them 'miler all circumstances . But what impend. Deliverd. Pr. IMO. --- 0,3_20 4,031 81.167 IMMO aid oemel to he taken int. the onion). That penain. nod- Pus it appears to me that it would be mod inexpedient gentleman (Mr. Bouverie) had stated that he ten le knew Mr. MACDONOGH teak exception to the manner of was the inevitable moral to be drawn? That it became the liana:-W. I...bhde. stop 2,192 1,1141 P,730 Mon ma homed usable by law to take Mu, in witiovit th e e s t- lif we were to undertake an investigation of the details to what this inquiry could lead. Were they to be bound by ptocodure in reference to the hill, and quoted a number of Prime Minister under such comunetances to bring forward l' E tr i l u 'l c i i % begs 26,e04 20,0167 114,706 211.032 smut,, of two phyeimotte, mid that if he obtenied thee iof this particular ease. I will only state lay the certificate of medical gentlemen ea to whether the precedents to show that the Chancellor of the Exchequer no measures connected with femme which ho did not 8 and biannla. bea l l i Cj -20 4,160 12,3:37 terililicains he stwolJ he holly to take I.iin ir. ,large. Very 1 opinion, th at the law is sot in fault, that honourable member for Cambridge was capable to vote was not justified in including the whole of the financial believe would meet with undoubted support by those who t oo haßai 7.201 7,006 418.450 234,v57 chortle afterwards two physicians were be ar d 1.. g i"e h the commis-ismer' in Noel are not in fault, or nut 7 Ile for one would prefer the testimony of propositions of the government is one bill, but that the represented the people in the House of Commons. If it C u b e eat ffavene - 2,170 14, 0 95 23,250 a ...mileage, and it costaisof this rem a rkabl e mat e meet. 1 sad I will also add my opinion that the act of Mr. Steuart 10 honourable geuttenien of that house as to the constitutional course would have been to have dealt with was the undeniable privilege of that house that they were ForelgnMuscovado cage 1,179 024 7,936 7,243 • • Mist Mr. Mayan was not only d a mp roes to I self engirding in this house to vote was entirely epontaomus on state of miod of Mr. Steuart on the evening in question. He them separ ate ly . He contended that there was no instance to have a sole voice in these matters, their responsibility and Ilavana• • • ..• •• • • boxes - - - - but dangerous to others," and thereupun be was Welded ! hie part, and was sot induced by any persuasion from any could only express his deep regret at this motion. for he in whith a bill rejected by the House of Lords bad the responsibility of the First Minister became proportion. lawwil,„ .. packages s- 370 93,189 11,010 Win the loathe emboss a 4 Dr. Winslow and Dr. Beetlett, ; other perms. (Opposition cheers.) I have reason to be- wee p er f e ctly sure that whatever might have been the state been afterwards introduced into a supply bill for the present ately greater. But the Chancellor of the Exchequer said co "" g _ wg „ ingss e l a: , 44 270 573 sad he was kept W eimer umber that certifi,at e , whi di so ; hove that this ease is being easefully investigated by the el the hon. gentleman before, he was now fully able to feel year aid poised; that the only attempt which had been there DAS Do tease before the house. A minister moved the Do..brla & bags 148 154 1,439 tete uased tha the Wad dagger 'us to Lined( s i k l t o others. ! lame,. eiimmissioners, and that they have taken steps for the pain and misery which must attach to himself and mods (ii the reign of Queen Anise) had been unsuccessful ; second reading of the hill, which included the whole of hie Ceylon cams 600 707 6,b60 tug Dads, three cesium:seem epee Tburad m , or ra th e r F r id a y i extemling their i n qu i ries to the asylum in question, and I family from this discussion. (Hear, hear.) He thought and that " tacking" was always condemned by the coosti- financiol scheme, and on thefirstnightof thedebate midthere Do. brbi. & bags 1 , 10.1 1.157 15,717 20,786 atomism week last , the Lou. m en d, r 1.3- C s •iibri.l 2 v lap - ; believe that if the documents which are in their possession the motion was unwarranted, and he was sure it was un- totioo, and was now placed under the ban of law by pulls. was no moue before them. Was nut the second reading Mocha packages 8 72 3,084 3,792 peened be this hones neap anted in this home u s a matter i were placed before the house they would put the house to feeling. (Loud cheers.) meat He called upon the Chancellor of the Exchequer of the financial scheme as issue large enough? And what °lbw' L Iwdle packages ril ill 12,966 7.121 whisk was exciting to us all, and etie et very grad import- pasemien of the whole facts of the ease. Under these sir - Do. do. .ca Mr. ROEBUCK-Sir, if all the ep ith e ts that have bees not to throw down • defiance to the House of Lords, and right had the minister to presume - w h at right had he to Brasil • Costa Ike hags 7 - - - saes to the emote,. Now that a person in thst condition ( ennokinces it appear. to Me that the course this house applied to me are deeereins, I ought to consider myself bot to exhibit to the world, at a moment like thia, the spec. assume, that there would be no division challenged upon c ocoa barer 089 824 16,703 13,924 should be allowed to coins •m.oogst 145. ex. it,tl le,. -- ' should tali~ previous to the •appointment of II committee a 'oe t unwor thy p erson , (ch eers , an d lau g ht er. ) B ut, a i r , tack of an irritated and disunited parliament. th e merits of his policy ? ( Cheers , and cries of ' Divide, F ore i gn ben - - - thsagliter oo ashlars.) This wee no laugliieg teener- 'hear, I would he to have these documents, as well as the report of I wou ld ye t b eg th e h ome t o li s t en t o me f or a f e w Sir J. GRAHAM, applying himself to the constitutional divide.") They had come down that night to discuss the Run casks 1,433 717 11,251 32,05 bear)-..inil lam statiag it as paedy sod as calmly as I eau. the rommimiouers. If the hones should he of that opinion moments, and not to act upon the opinions so openly isaAnestiont argued that the Chancellor of the Exchequer was financial policy of the minister. The hon. gentleman who De bhd• - - - - kites:. ben , I wish to bring before the boom the great the object might be attained in two ways ; e ith er a expressed . When I spo k e to you, a i r , on y our right hand ified in uniting his propositions in one bill. He believed opened the debate confined himself to the constitutional ileal - gema India •• • •lunt 367 829 39,496 61,826 Amor adosioe not only the personal safety of mil. , return might be moved for of the proceedings was standing the right hoe. gentleman the Se c reta r y f or that ths House a bones bad lust year exercised a n inherent question, but studiously guarded himself from moving on 8•12171t111.1 - 14117,471 or eideelmenilierm this bousie,dut more pgwciallytb•leadcrs on iof the commisaioners in lunacy, or, if that were not POWS tone 243 206 4,606 4,420 the Home Department. I beckoned to him, arid asked him right in rejecting the bill for the repeal of the pope : that occasion upon that limited point-be left the large both sides a the home -out only affecting the safety thought desirable, I would undertake to addrem an official to be good enough to come round , become I wished him to duty, but that the policy of the exercise of that nett issue open, and upon that large issue nut a word had been of thia herwe. but that of the public at large, sal not ouly letter to the commissioates, millet( upon them to make a h ear w h a t I was ',tying. I spok e t o you, sod on your was doubtful, and that the right itself had been pushed spoken that night except by a minister ot the crown. A TALLOW.-There has been again very little speculative that, but affeetimr the ,baraeter of our decisiecia that • tall report, which report I would undertake to lay upon the statement that I could not interfere with the orders of the to the extreme. The course now recommended by minister of the crown had made • speech upon the financial action in the tallow market since our loot report. The trade pereoe us this eetelatem, inkier • certificate of that pmuliar 1 table of the house. If that course should apar a t e o d be the day, I retired from the step on your left hand, and spoke t o the government was sustained by usage, and under scheme, had gone into the details, had vindicated it continues to takes fullav rage quantity of tallow forpresent es/mtge. stintill id• alloWsol to come into tl.is house from proper one, I would thee ask the hoe. sal gentle- the right hon. gentleman. We then discussed the propriety the circumstances of the ease was right lo policy. If, how • from tacks, and had called upon him (Mr. Disraeli) er • use, chiefly from the 1859 e Y.C., and the market is steady in • a lunatic amlum. and give hi. vote upon • matter affecting era to withdraw his motion for the present, or if unwilling of bringing the matter before the house, and I must say ever , the opposition wen dissatisfied, Bottum 000ld be more sooallz i to take the opportunity and answer hie reproac hes, all'Dons:-Contract April to June, 58a; Octoberto the interest. of the ' , matey. (Hear, heard I think that to take that course as a final measure he might withdraw it th a t f rom th e right h oe . gentlemen I re ce iv e d no di mme i on , reasonable than that they should move a vote of want of and ' taxa, state the policy the opposition intended to De cem ber , 55a • 1869 Y.O Y.C.; 63e. to 53e. 3d. ; South Amen. into this matter the house is bound to inquire. I charge subject to renewal should the explanations of the commis- b u t h e agree d with me i n thi n ki ng it w aa a ma tt er grave ly confidence in ministers. Something had been said lately of pursue. It was with this challenge from the noble lord the ca p, M i . d., t o i a ,, Lt pip e ; no Od om (w * . Town aohody, and I wish to affect nobody, but I only desire to sionen not be considered sufficient. (Hear.) impurtiog the house. (Hear, bear.) For, recollect the "Down with the paper duty , and up with the ter duty ;" Secretary of State nin ringing in their core- ( " Olt, oh 1")- tallow is soiree M Ws. fid., met stash. Comanut oil is at its all the fact. • because it ot quite clew somebody is to Mr. BALL, having some knowledge of the facts of the circumstances under which we were standing. Here was • but he ventured to predict that if a cry were raised of that the Chancellor of the Exchequer TIMM ammoroest steady for Cochin firm for Cylon, 475. 10d. Cochin. 46e. blsuie, and e hat I wish i e . that th e h ome th a n find out men, craved permission to make a few observation*, and in gentleman who was in charge Of • physician under the oar- "Up with the House of Lords, and down with the House and expressed his sad surprise that the Houma Commons Ceylon ; Sydney, 465. to 475., good to fine. Palm oil firm that P•r""n ups whom the bionw ought I" rest. Mew. , the first itatence must protest against the iodeliesev of tificats of two physicians, which omtifieste said that the of Commons," the country would confirm by • triumphant should disease his bur4et. (Chews.) Itoppeared to him at 45e. 10d. to 46a, fine Lagos. South American horse M ar.l You. sir • thought that by private intiumous to the bri eg i eg such, matter b e f ore the house, the pain indicted by hon. member for thimbridire wee dangerous to himself and majority the power, US W% and authority of the House of that there W•• DO groom' or reason for the obJections of the grime. 386. • rough f a t, o a . iii&-(From t h e c i rcu l ar o f omonexiimers as lunar/. )463 med. obtain from them which would he much vital by the appointment of • others. An hon. gentleman behind rue said he would Commons. right hon. gentleman. The right hon. gentleman might be %seri. Smi th and ch u b s; da . a -„„,„ da y ,„,,,, i „.. ) a promise that they wou ld t a k e p ree , u ti oe that committee. (Hear.) Unless they were disposed te dispute rather trust to himself than to the certificate of two Lord J. MANNERS declined to admit as conclusive pursuing a policy advantageom to the country and honour- . the same thing should not happen NNW. But is the statement of the hon. and teamed member for Cambridge, physicians. Now, I would not. Here was a man, under the dictum of SirJaams Graham, and warned the house not able to himself. This was not the opportunity, on the OOTTON.-Lrearerooh, Mae 18,-Our market to-day is that )04 faded. I want t o n o w whether the he did not see why the diecussion need any further. the oath of two physicians, said to be dangerous to himself to raise an issue which might involve the two houses in motion for adjournment, to eater upon such a discussion, .„ . l aw W in fault or the rewiniwinoere 111 Wilt. or No public interest was involved, a the stirring of such and others. (Murmurs.) There is a warmer here as if I collision. but this the right hon. gentleman must know, that be was ' 6 7 quiet" °Da • welder"! business at Saturday's Priem w bather the parsons is charged . this Its. gestleman a question was certainly not for the interest of the house. well stating that which was not true. lam stating it, and Sir F. GOLDSMID supported the bill. taking, if not an noprecesiented, at tenet a very unusual T b • Id e s ar• 'VW Wee, including ''. 24 ° ADlerwolli 4 14 are in tank. 1 wish to kerm this in ceder that the to 81d. • 1,500 Surat, ISed. to 6(d. • 300 Eforptian, Bd. to Pelnoe He hoped, therefore, that the matter would be allowed hon. gentlemen can contradict se if they like ; but a coin- Mr. BOLT admitted the right of the house to include the course, and surely he was the last man to grudge the hums ,„, _.2 . . . or which 2,000 are for speculation se export. The "Wirle , l "i'Y be Printed out to th e w"rid • end that it shall to drop, and that the louse would rest eatiefied with missioner of lunacy informed me th at was the purport of whole !oldest in one bill, but urged that it was a novel the due examination of the matter introduced , and the nu k's import is 4 521 sot Implicit agate ; moll that the public at large shall know the statement of the hon. and learned member for Cam- the certificate. Moreton', when I discussed the matter course intended to mien • triumph of the house over the policy he recommended. He did sincerely trust that Wee that this house shall not is. lir the Imputation that it allows bridge. (Hear, heard with the right honourable gentleman the Secretary co-ordinate branch of the legislature by substituting direct the house would not be pot to a division, but that CATTLE-U.2lg h, Mar 13.-The supp y I WaN m uch pervio us lli suet) peculiar eircumMances to vote upon a L or d PALM MOMS -I cannot quite acquiesce in the for the Home Office, he sod I both came to the for indirect taxation. the noble lord would feel that it was for his own good for es r matter which may effect the best i n t eres t s 4 th e country, view which some hon. members seem to have taken of this conclusion that it imported this house that something Mr. COLLIER was of opinion that the house had availed honour, aod for the honour of the house, that the lees t h an on la st Mo n day ;of sheep and lambs larger. The b. Cattle sold d and, therefore, sir, without further del a y, I bag to move matter. I smite feel th at the discussion of equation of this should be done to prevent the recurrence of such a trace. it of the only muse open to it in order to maintain its debate should be adj ourned, and that there should demand in _ e l!, /Amt. sold well. re •No change in the WOO 008 a ceemaittee shall be appointed to in q uir e into dart land always be attended with great Pala to all who are action. Ido not know whether the law is to blame. The privileges and avoid a eoefiiet with the House of Lords. be a fair and complete discussion upon the whole value soeep. the dimmers., wider whi c h ai r . "tw i n • the member misted to or coonersed with the hon. member principally right bee. gentleman says it is not. The law is not in He was not prepared to commit the privilege, of the house merits of the policy upon which he (Mr. Dimaeli) had him for Weald" voted is 5 derma,v upon p r id.,y monies taterested. Nobody can regret the infliction of melt pain fault and the ootomissioaers are not in fault, but he does to the moderation of Lord Derby as shadowed forth at a self been challenged by one of the principal ministers of the week but. I Hem hear.) ni me than I do; but at the same time I feel that there are not say the who had this hon. gentleman in charge civic feast. so he recommended the hones to read the bill , crown to express hie opinion. ( Hear, hear.) WEATHER REPORT. Er. HADFIELD secoa . led the motion. higher consideration, that must not be lest eight was not is Z2 ° .. 1 laid the blame to nobody. I stated the a second time by • large majority. Lord PALIIERSTON-I must admit that the right hog. MONDAY, MAT la, 810 9 8.14 Mr. MAC•IiVIAY said it was not hie intentios, in t i e i ng .., or and we cannot let a question involving fact, and woos has cootradicted what I stated. I have Mr. WHITESIDE charged the government and their gentleman has made what in my opinion ia a very mil epost this motioe, to offer sty arguments either um way or I suc h hi g h er ~,n ei de mt io us t urn merely on the amount of stated that the hon. gentlemen was in charge under a certh supporters with an attempt to coerce the conscience of the wincing speech, but the conviction he has brought to my & & lL D. 1. 0. L S. the _ether. why t..bewt, .Moll or should. wit be sPPointed the 1 pain its diacumios may inflict on any circle, or individual. finite stating that he was dangerous to himself and others, House of Lords at the expellee of their patrio.ism. He mind is the very opposite to that which be wished to pro wonwleowo...._ far welten_too h on - we ber had at moved. but (Hear, hear.) Sir, it is a very serious charge that a person and that notwithstanding he came here and voted- Isay ills regarded this ail an unjust, unfair and unreasonable ex- deco. (Cheers and laughter.) If I undentand rightly ---- - - -. MOM the 8 0400404 walla in dad towards t h e boo- gentle labouring seder a mental in fi rmity, and at the moment a thing dangerous to society at large, and contrary to the penment, and, viewing it also as an moult upon the Howe what the right hon. gentleman stated he does not intend to sem whose same had been so meneeemarily meotioited- under medical treatment for that infirmity. should present dignity of the proceedings of this house. (Oh, oh.) I ham of Lords, he for one would resent it. dispute that part of the budget which is eciesected with the ~,,,,,,. gores 41 41 WN W 9 e iintd, anal ad " Haan. bank - .Lad eanadni. all that • Malin I himself in this house to TOW on wiuestioo of great public murmurs, but the noble lord at the head of liar Majeety's Lord J. RUSSELL reminded the house that the real income tax to revive the question of the tea duties, nor to l'"'" er the boo toothiness had left the some about two months ; thews* gad I thi n k it very desirable that seeps should be government seems to agree with me in thinking so, bemuse question before it was the privilege of the House of Com- object to the repeal of the paper duty. ("Oh, oh .4 and r em 80.26 48 SS N.W. 2 b ages hi l'obeeed 01110 "i:rod oleos him (Mr. Macaulay), i taken to Prevent the More/rut of such a proceeding, they were the words be used. When I °resulted with moos, and that precedents wen Dot wanting in which the cheers.) He stated , as far as I understood, that ' thee, Bzo,wiez lO.l 48 43 24. 7 0 i• Ow Pooletell of canasta)* of the 0 0 0 - member tor (Hem, hen.) But as my right hon. friend has stated, we you, sir, on Saturday lash, my phrase was flan-" You upper house had carried bills similar to the present framed matters had been disposed of--that upon the resolutioo AlrilWeilae 3OlO 45 =ass and se be iotimately acquainted with the believe th a t th e ma tt er bed been fully ii i eemigated by th e have failed in your private endeavours to prevent the re- for the readjustment of the finances of the country. As of the house the duties would be levied as • matter of P 0114••••-•• 10.51 el 45 BA& .-- Ws. . 01 cost to 'hands_ ups a. the attention of the boor commissioners in lunacy , and therefore I quite concur in einem: e of this matter. It seems 40 444 we an driven into an Instance the noble lord referred to • bill brought course. Theright hon. gentleman has not announced that gallimit e , 41 W.B.W. 2 b 3 b 3 0 30 17 62 61 8 9 r .. , of • low. ._ _lebOSO l26l . =Ye bar.) If it had NO/ been ter i kra recessinnedari o a to ray haw and learned hiend to with. a corner ;" and the words you need were, "1 think wean ;" in by Mr. Pitt to diminish certain additional amend there is any intention of objecting to the sealed reading of i ng l ' Aa . DAY -•a a gg N. II 0•• liamilaill el as and learned member for l&salehl draw his motion, m being premature atoll event., and to con. and you agreed with me La thinking it was a very dance tone which had become obnoxious, and imposing the MIL He has simply stated that be wishes for discus • u g - gi g , - ,i 0 1.7 mu 48 a N . N.W. y 5 LI skeuld have lees Wind •• suppuse that this motile tembenself, in th e first instance, with obtainin g 'report from roes matter. Well, then, I feariessly throw myself on an income tax instead, which the House of Lords Mon. He (criticises the statement of my right boo. friend varmint. - 10.16 49 68 13.8.8. 9:a hod bags uni• far as oaks of I r itlall pun to individuals, the commissioueirn. That report may show that there is no house and the country. (Cries of "Oh, ob.") I have agreed to without demur. He did not See how it could be that no issue had been raised. I Bayne issue has been raised rtieNOWIL m.2l 64 63 8.8. W. 7 0 lid be wend net knesher that th at object formed Leo part et dagger of se swot of the kind occurring again, and in that been called eafeelinef -them, hear)-but I was determined an insult to the House of Ueda to send up to it a bill upon the woad reading. (Cheers.) Wei have bad a long MUM= aa• notion a **boa and hound gentleman ; still he could case my hon. ai d learned fri en d would ha s satisfied. If, oa that no private cossideration should overcome the public framed on precisely the same principle as the money bil6 of debate, but sot one single memberwho has spoken on the Lew" 1 9 .14 43 43 N. 0 0 - • DOTI/ 30 11 48 47 N. 8.8.. •••••••••• wby. horse? Pablo' PorPose. the Winn Of Mr. the coot rary, there be gyounds for further action, he may consideration. (Oh, oh.) The ormaideration is this, that Mr. Pitt. The noble lord also expressed his sac rpnse that, other side has stated or pointed to any inteotion of opposing p osing i,•,iiii : 30 : 1 a a N. 8 0 6 9 0 1 Meer% Amami beee ken Uguy,ht forward . ( Hear hear .) at my tone resume his motion. (Hear , hear, and cries of under these circumstances, every pewees ought to be under although the opposition had first asserted that the surplus thesecond reading. Then the question is, whether those p ennage gen ,g 4 6 N. 3 • 1 Eat se the wenn nri bees brought forward, antis llia o R oe b uc k.") the charge an d control of iedividttals to whom he is was •a pure fiction, they had subeequeetly recommended the who object ia general to the fidincial arnegernents of the mom= name had bees Inlontaand , he lewd be excused for calling Mr. HORSMAN had a suggeetion to make which he confided, and that individual iseAbt to be responsible boom to reduce duties exceeding by a tarter of a million right hon. gentleman, or t he who object to the manner Porwron 30.18 65 at leltillt 2 c 1 asaaaaral la the lan% and So =Oa of lb* eamixed oircum - thee t would get the hone Maul the difficulty. The pro. for any injury which may mien Will any one tell me the those which the governmeat xoommended. in which those arrangements are' oomprised in ate meager% instv Met 60 48 N. 6 0 4 94•9994 of 441 NO" Ilisest er Mr. airmen. and How the of the Secostary of *ate was liable to the objectioo, physicians would have mined that ontibmte without the land IL CECIL took the personal view of the question, shall have the opportunity of fully discussing them. CO s •• Et . 73 49 - K t II b 1 horme youth' see bets RAM, round there was fur bruisingHamm it the mimics were withdraw, sow it would he under person being dan g erous 7 Su pp osin g that the person had end intended that, aa Mr. Gladstone had failed in his But my right hon. friend hoe pointed out that there are itin , - N.N.W. 9 r 4 30.24 48 - N.N.W. 9 e 2 , weed ham , as halm , Her, beard n. hos. led eall t Liable to be again mounted, and his (Mr. inflicted a dangerous wound on himself, or on any member previous financial calculatious he was unable to trust him many occiisiond on which, according to the a g amin __ &k w by - W. e e 6 twwww., _ frotlewoltlllod lewd , • slateuteat in refernms to Ifernmee opiates was that diseatesios on such • subject of the house? (Oh.) It did not ha , but it might have em this occasion, and therefore he still doubted the fact of a I eeedimm of the house, that dismission can take place. Waco see ailment Mr. MOWS was 1.01104.00.1 to labour nectar a....... 0 4.. -- .......s. -- .-.......A.L. ”....1...1 its-- 4...1 1...........1 Ti........... T .... .....1.. ...01L... •.. .1.. --1-- --_, .....a - AA • I. 1..--1 h. Yr • • •• •• •• • • • •• • • • •• - Mr. COLLIER was of opinion that the house bad availed iLelf of the only course open to it in order to maintain its rieileps and avoid a eoeflict with the House of Lords. He was not prepared to commit the privileges of the house to the moderation of Lord Derby as shadowed forth at a civic feast. so he recommended the house to read the bill • second time by • large majority. Mr. WHITESIDE charged the government and their supporters with an attempt to coerce the conscience of the House of Lords at the expellee of their patrio.ism. He regarded this as an unjust, unfair and unreasonable ex periment, and, viewing it also as an intuit upon the House of Lords, he for one would resent it. Lord J. RUSSELL reminded the house that the real , question before it was the privilege of the House at Cteng moos, sad that precedent" were not wanting in white the upper house had carried bills similar to the present framed for the readjustment of the ffnaocee of the country. La an instance the noble lord referred to a bill branght in by Mr. Pitt to diminish certain additional assimsd taxes which had become obnoxious, and imperials as income tax instead, which the House of Lords agreed to without demur. He did not see how it could be sea insult to the House of Lords to send up to it a bill framed on precisely the same principle as the money bills of Mr. Pitt. The noble lord also expressed his surprise that, although the opposition had first asserted that the simplex was a pure fiction, they had subsequently recommended the bars to reduce duties exceeding by a qquarter of a million three which the governineat rr oommesded. Lind It. CECIL took the personal view of the and contended that, as Mr. Gladstone had faile3 t i t% ' previous Unsocial calculations, he was unable to trust him on thia occasion, and therefore he still doubted the fact of a surplus, and bad no confidence in his budget. Having ree inured in some degree to the style sad language of his last speech on this question, the noble lord's remarks were re coved with some impatience and marks of dimapprolation. Mr. DU CANE moved the adjourenteet of - the debate. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped the boa member would pause before he Famed hie motion. (Hear, hear.) The discussion had been occupied in debat ing point. of • somewhat simple character, and he ho the house would pause before it acceded to any f ort edjourement of • queOjon upon which no imue had been raised—(hear, hear.))—no motion made, or whether it was Intended to offer say opposition to the Looped reading of the bill. (Hear, hear.) The Unsocial statement was snide on the 15th of April, and all other basaess was put aside by the government in order to go on with the fieanaal *theme. The plan involved only two propositions, which were rest of • novel or ample: character, and yet they had ahead? disposed of one-meth pert of the time of the session of parliament without pro ses. si pee n! in any matter mospli fiesta. Seventeen days before the Speaker was permitted to leave the shah., which he believed to be mexasepled in parliamentary Watery. (Hear, hear.) Is 1853, when extensive plans were proposed, they were permitted. after seven days, to discuss them in committee of ways and means. (Hear.) In 1855 they were permitted to do so after three days. This a the eighth night of the diet:maim, and till the present moment not a word had been laid of the ooest,.u tired point. (Oh, oh.) He did not want to mime any coo. tramway, but he did not think the constitutional question entered seriously into the diecussion till that night. (Hear.) Meanwhile the revenue was suffering by the state of un certainty in which things were left, and under these cir cumstances be hoped the debate would be no further pro longed. (Hear.) Mr. DISRAELI mid the Chancellor of the Exchequer had complained of the great delay which had taken place in the consideration of the financial measures of the govern. meet ; but the right hoe. gentleman must pardon him for saying that the house bad sever been paired, upon men sores id this character, in the position in which it was placed this year. (Opposi:ion cheers.) There had no doubt at different times been many equally or even wore important measures brought forward by the government, but they had never been connected with • combination of circum stmess from which it arose that that house and that house alone could decide upon the merit. of the policy recommended. (Hear, hear.) Then it became them under rich conoderations—when the other Mr. MACAULAY said it waii not Lis inteotiou, 10 ruing epos Qin motes, to offer •ty arguments either one way Of the other. why then should or should not be appointed the ommittee Is. which the hon. member had just moved. bet Aging the plebes which he did towards the bon. teeth ism whose Yens had bees so umecemarily meotimed - feed trim 4 " Mow, bens)-rod ecenidarieg that a relative of the bee. methane had left tie boese about two mouths ; age. be behoved it devolved mon him (Mr. Macaulay), elemi ...L.L ina± the poetise et colliegue of the boo. member tor , and as Mies intimately acquainted with the les11;71a• ems, to 'hinds upon the Meshes of *behoves for • few momesta. (Hear, hear.) If it had Not been for i ha knowleder of the has. and learned member for ithedlekl Ise Moab' have has. Wised to suppose that this motim had been made for the mks of giving pain to individuals, bat be sent est eirmires that that object formal say part of the nisei= el the lee. and learned geetleinan ; still he could sieseneehe why, kr any peblit- purpose, the same of Mr. Risme alweld have hese Drought forward. (Hear, beer.) BM se the weft " had been brought forward • and as his same had his mestiened. he mast be eaneed for selling Meet* to the tai, and to ensued the eamixed circum• Meese 4 the meat ailment of Mr. Steuart, and thee the home wonkl see hew Veda ground there Ina for briaging 11611111 before the beam (Hear, hear.) The hoe. sad Iserned academes had nimbi a staimnest in reforest* to the edema Hr. flimart wee summed to labour seder many years age, het he (Mr. Maes.day) would be glad to loom whet err the yekvamy of that statineest -(lood creme of " Has, tsar)-mad he should also he glad to !mow where the hoe. sad learned gestlymea get his ilifurntaten from. (Hem, hear.) But Ibis he knew • the swirly a week yqea be Imams actimintel id:vitally, mil thee atleswanis by the great courtesy of We Spanker tome* him with the fact that it was the deter. samation of the boa. and learned geothermal to bring New mciantemees before the home. He (Mr. Macaulay) thee pet himself is menniunkstion with the her. and lemma gentlemas,aad as that mansion be conveyed to hies a ateihruest eatirely different to that which he had just made so the home. The hoe. aid loomed syntheses told him that ben win wader the sesemity of kmagrag it before the hem became it win is. of grim beano! 4 privilege, and that lime the 11061011.0 which he h.wl received, Its believed that Mr. Steuart hail bees brought dotes le the hellie by lant, sad bad been aocouipasied Ity ewe keepers, who hhe at the door, and waited ler him till he wo awl thew accompanied him away bent the knee. He told the hoe. and leari times that that statement was not Mee, much as be himself arcompanied Mr sieuart oell et the bums, walked arra-isorte with him to Palace-yard sad saw dim atom cab. The hon. and learned gentketaxi this mill three two uses were elms to him at the time although be did em are them. (Hear, Marl He told him the merges of hie Orientating • sad that there warn so doubt whatever that when Mr. Sauart came demi to vote bit mind oss bee hoes evert thing which conk' be called inuoity, and that there was not • tram si w a streak of issauity or derange. meat in it, and that at least it was a eased as the bee. '4 Memel geetleman's own. (Loud beibter.) St OM time his 11.00 ignorant, when be 'mho I. the hen. and learned gentlemen. of the details slating Ike recent al most 4 llre steihrt, but be told him that about dose mete previonsly he hail revived • knee free Mrs. Stewart mealy mikes him to take charge of Mr. Steuart's lettere and pelitiona, for that he. was unwell and bad gooe into the .winfory. Shortly af terwariln he received a letter from Mr. trenert, which he regretted he amid not sow produce. If lot led hemmed that the preservatim of that letter would have begs of any calm es a question of this kind, or that such at enemies would berm arises. be mead have saes emery are of it. sad ham reed it to the boom A. it was, be eoull poly my what Ni. Steuart mid of himself tea days Wien be nom down to vote. The letter was dated from the asylum alluded to. The writer said, You will learn by this where I am, mod the fort of my meet suffering maw the attacks of extreme &premien of spirit.. I Lave pied myself where I ant, is urder that I may obtain a com plete restoration of my health. I have no douid that a few weeks' rest will effect this object, la the m e anti me I ham thought at bettor to abstain altogether from every beilases, pertismeutery aml private. I am sow much better, my Abet perfectly well. soil I thrill be capable of etseisgeOse tete, Loses at any tine I shall thiak it assmary to give_ my vote." He took no ratios of the eiremintanes, ear bad any oommunicatioe as to Mr. Meliart's vote rained between hint sad my other perms. Mr. Steuart vol wearily called upon • misdeal num sad dies:keel to lion his beentions. The home would milerstend Mat they were only maeatioss, (Hear, hear.) Ile informed the medical min ehwt be do med for his owe safety to place himself eerier medical cos . toil end treatese • et. Dr. Winslow told Mr. Steuart that by the statute law be could not receive him lehe hie umlaut without the certificate of two phyticiaos. . That wea. he believed. a peculiarity of the law of EngLinil, vela., that it teas ace lawful for my man, bowever cooseious he skit le of a growing iofitinity, to confine in • hereof kind, or to ammeter himself, unlit. i.e obtained the cestiltatet of two medical men a. to the state of his need; accordingly tlr. Steuart. at bin own auggettioe, welted two meilical men, sad baring obtained throw forma lities, 'resat net* received I/ Dr. Winslow. That was 011 the lath ApriL Stool thee, up to the moment of ha gilder thin vote. Kr. Steuart was sever muds the slightest melesial er morons, hut hverl in the or.lje ftr y wa y as a s snlleary Monte or visitor of Dr. Winslow. establishment. He Vent M sod mane mart, oomieg up to London and visit ' leg his !rheas whenever he phased, and then never had lees say gaping' ee our .Lock of mental alierratim what. rest. (Boar, hear.) Ile felt that this matter should set sad 011011 sot have here brought before the bone, mines there were moo penes to be called to the 1011. 0/ the hots*, es& if serftomy, pushed for his ernes in reference to Mime. Os die early part 111 the day Named, Mr. Steuart celled epee Dr. Winslow and impressed as 'steatite to come down to the howw arid vote. Dr. Winslow sold every thing be mold to demiaile him loan doieg so, at I took 1211110. Ames to premed it, became be thmight that mining into a crowded and excited place might In very injurious to the health of lb. leismart. He left Dr. Winslow ureter that impression, wad so f.ir he wee mot reepeeithie for what took Sic ' Liter nay, miner to the evening. Mr. footed to the other medical nee id charge if the posse where he resided that be mast Leconte down teen, met Dr. Bartlett likewee M same terms diesti Mr. Steuart from coming to vote, be* aware of stet had paned lateen Mr. Steuart and Dr. Win slow is the moment of that day. (Hew, hemr.) Mr. Steuart naiad be would go, and Mr. Bartlett, who bad army =elan; rom.im, haling that be would night greater Misr) os tlr. ?thwart'. !week if be detaised hen than if be idlmed 'on, to go, left kilo, as • choice '4 evils, to follow hi own dincretion. He (dr. itaandsiv) had. ender theme circumstance., atonal. tined epos the boa, sail leaned mender for Minidisk'. that miler he felt that the ease wee no bad • ma that either Mr. Bartlett or Dr. Wieslow,or somebody elm could be called so to would sod rambled, he thoull sot persist with he motifs. (Fleur, bear.) He naked him whether any hearing which the queens bad os the privileged of that home could! Ile fora moment weighted sealed the intolerable pale which the proceeding, if made public would whet on Mr. Steuart, hie family, and a large Miele of honwest people--eepyrially on Mr. Steuart himself -who, like the rest .4 methyl. would rood the proceodisits of Yet home on the follows reorsiag. lOppostleos higher eousidMationt that must atleir.losi;ight of, and we cannot let a question involving such higher raid/ratan turn merely on the amount of pain its discussion may inflict on soy circle, or individuaL (Hear. hear.) Sir, it is a very serious charge that a person labouring seder a mental infirmity, and at the moment ender medical treatment for that infirmity, should present himself in this house to vote on a question of great public interest, sad I think it very desirable that steps should be takes to menet the reeurrerce of such a proceeding. (Hear, hoar.) But as my right hoe. friend has stated, we believe that the matter bad been fully investigated by the commissioners in lunacy. and therefore I quite concur in his reammeedation to my hoe. mil learned fined to with draw his motion, ss being premature at all emote, and to con teat himself, In the flit instance, with obtaining &report from the commiesiousee. That report may show that there is no dagger of ea sweet of the kind occurring *gain, and in that case my hon. sad learned friend would les satisfied. If, oe the coat nay, there be grounds for further action, he may at say time resume his motion. (Hear, hear, and cries of " Roebuck.") Mr. HORSMAN had a suggestion to make which he thEitht would get the WON out of the difficulty. The pro. of the Seesslsay of State was liable to thui objectiou, it the antics were withdraw. sow it would he ander shell t liable to be spin mounted, and his (Mr. lierneee opinion wee that discussion on such • subject ahead he se mach as possible avoided. (Hear, hear.) He wail engem another opera, by which they might New et s 0 the nfonnation on that day. His Sea has. Mai said that the report al the oremieeleeeee it lunacy would be cc's desire, but he (Mr. Haelemeo) apprehended that if say elogle commission* le Marcy ware sitting in that house, that be could he ableived by the Speaker from hie ugh of secrecy, he weskit he able to state all the faces which wen neossarylo . ath them to decide the question. Oa of these °Pemmican occupied the bench behind him, and if that patisserie had Do objection he might be called v ia by the Speaker, whoa his katement would carry oar melba to the meads of every member meant seurest that the Speaker shoal' call apse the hem member for Hereford to state what be knew of the circumstances of the ere. not say the person who had this hon. gentleman in charge was set is fault. I laid the blame to nobody. I stated the bat, sad noose has contradicted what I stated. I have stated that the hon. gentlemen was in charge under a certi ficate stating that he was dangerous to himself and othen, and that notwithstanding he came here and voted. I say it is a thing dangerous to society at large, sod °outran to the dignity of the proceedings of this house. (Oh, ob.) I bear murmurs, but the noble lord at the head of her Majeety's government seems to agree with me in thinking so, because they were the words he used. When I consu lted with you, sir, on Seturday last, my phrase was this—" You have failed in your private mideavours to prevent the re eurreace of this matter. It scum to a we an driven into a case ;" and the words you used were, "I think wears r and low sgreed with me to thinking it wse a ne7 roue matter. Well, thee, I fearlessly throw myself d o? house and the country. (Cries of "Oh. oh.") I have hem called uefeelinn—(hear, hear)—but I was determined that no private consideration should overcome the public conaideration. (Oh, oh.) The consideration is this, that under these circumstanoes, every pence ought to be under the charge and control of individuals to whom lie is confided, and that individual °eight to be responsible for any injury which may arise, Will my one tell me the physicians would have wined that entifimte without the person being dangerous Supposing that the person had Indicted a dangerous wound on himself, or on any member of the house? (Oh.) It did not happen , but it might have happened. However, I am perfectly willing to do what the right hon. gentleman the Home Secretary wishes. I have no desire but for the public gond en this occasiou—(ela, oh ) — and if the house will permit me, I am perfectly reedy to withdraw my motion—(no, ao)--er the house may negative it, or do what they like with it. I have stated to the house the circumstances I believed it im ported them to know. In doing that I bare done my duty to the house and to the public at large. Sir G. GREY could not help expressing his regret that the boa. and learned member should have adverted to a private convereatioe between himself and the Speaker. (Hear, hear.) The hoe. and learned gentleman must lave done it inedverteetly, bet se be led done so, perhaps he (Sir G. Grey) might also be snowed to follow his en. ample to a mall extent, and my that the Speaker had en. head b ki• lie f earnest esct,,mnde anxious tts s i t l i a that use. the uses isaY eel, oud siumem) _ e right hon. gentleman, the Secretary of etiaft, bed been in communication with the Commissioners el blew with regard to the subject, and the hon. and lemma inilentaa, the member for Sheffield, could have called for their report when it was made without the report being laid publicly before the house. He thoughi, the adoption of that course ought to have satisfied the hen. end learned member. (Hear, beer.) Colonel CLIFFORD merely wished to correct an erro• MOW opinion that in his capacity as a lunacy commissioner be bed furnished in any way the hon. and learned member with the information on which he had acted. Without being swan that the Doe. and learned gentleman war going to bring forward the subject, he might have said that such a committee was sitting. Mr. MALI NS thought the house was not sufficiently alive to °slavery important circumstance in the cue—namely,that of dates. The hon. and learned member for Sheffield stated that Mr. Steuart placed himself in the lunatic asylum of Dr. Forbes Wilmslow, under a certificate that he was dangerous to himself and others, but the house should recollect that wee done on the 6th of April, and it was not until the 3rd of May that the boo. They gave his vote in that house. (Hear, hear.) They should also bear in mind that during the interval Dr. Forbes Winslow allowed Mr. Steuart to proceed to and from London to see his friends sod trans act business. (Hear, bear.) He deprecated the subject being brought berme the house, but es the hon. *ad learned men sr had proceeded so far he earnestly hoped the meths would not be allowed to be withdrawn, but that they maid show their unseal the impropriety of the proceeding takesi,lay at once negativing the motion—fuer, heart—and thus defog ell they could to relieve the feelings of Mr. Steuart, who, be believed, wan quite as capable of feeling the impropriety f the motion as another bon. gentleman . (Hear, hear.) Sir G. C. LRWIS said that he was unwilliag to remain Meat after the eeeouat which the boa. and learned genie men (Mr. Roebuck) had given of a private convention with him. It was quite true that a conversation to the effect diacritic(' had taken place, but he did not us i and it was anything more than such a conversation es usually took place between hoe. members aoqueinted with each other ; and be certainly had not expected to bear it referred to in the course of the present debate. lie would state, to the best of his recollection, what passed on Wit occasion. The hon. and learned gentleman was in conver sation with the Speaker on the subject of this debate as be (Sir G. C. Lewis) was passing, and requested him to stop in order to hear the substages of that coaversition. After a few words he sat down with the hon. and lanced gentle. man, who then consulted him as to the course he should adopt. The hon. and learned member now said that he (Sir G. C. Lewis) did not dissuade him froru bringing the 'safer before the heave, but neither did he pursuade him. (Hen, bear.) Be (the right hon, gentleman) offered no da:awhatever upon the question as to whether it was it wrong ; whether it was wise or unwise to bring the su *set before the house. He was perfectly aware of the efforts which were nude by the Speaker to dissuade the hon. and learned member from bringing the subject below the loose—(gibers)—but as he (Sir (1. Lewis) was officially coenectaal with the commissween of nosey be considered Lord PAIMERSION—I mast admit that the right hoe. gentleman btu made what in my opinion is a very con vincing speech, but the conviction he has brought to my mind is the very opposite to that which he wished to pro dna% (Cheers and laughter.) If I understand rightly what the right hon. gentleman stated he does not intend to dispute that part of the budget which is ecusected with the income tax to revive the question of the tea duties, nor to object to the repeal of the paper duty. ("Oh, oh , and cheers.) He stated , as far u I understood, that ' these mattes had been disposed of--that upon the resolntioe of the house the duties would be levied as a matter of course. Theright hoe. gentleman has not announced that there is any intention of objecting to the mooed reading of the bilL He has simply stated that be wishes for discus sion. He (criticises the statement of my right boo. friend that no issue had been raised. I say no issue has been raised upon the second reading. (Cheers.) We have bad a long debate, but sot one single member - who has spoken on the other side ha stated or pointed to any inteotimi of opposing thesecond reading. Then the question is, whether those who object is general to the fielincial arnegements of the right boo. gentleman, or those who object to the manner in which those arrangements are' oomprised in one meanie.% shall have the opportunity of fully discussing them. Bat my right bon. friend has pointed out that there see many cocasione on which, anoording to the a wettings of the house, that dismiss/on can take ;I:7= is the question of you, sir, leaving the dale, sad upon that, es well as on the third reading there there will be a fell oppor tunity for disowning all the details of the general financial arrangemente of my right hoe. friend. Those who object to the arras emend by which all these details are com prised in the bill must make their objections in the corn. mittee upon the bill. That will be the proper opportunity for them • and therefore I must say that - I have heard no maim w hatever amigosl for the adjournment of this de. bete. (Hear, hear.) If it had been stated that the second reeding would be opposed, and if notice of that opposition had been given, and if it were alleged that members who meant to speak upon that question had not had an tipper , Way for stating their reasons, there might be some for an adjournment, but as all seem agreed hat d the second reading should pass without a division—(laughter from the opposition)—l do not see auy valid reason for adjonnorig the debate. Silence gives consent. (Cheers and laughter, and cries of "Oh, eh.") As every member who has spoken km hitherto bees 'Heat as to any intention to oppose the second reading I am entitled to assume that no such intention eslats. (Cries of "No, no," and cheers.) That being the ease, I shall cer retati.leem it my duty to object to the adjournment of the (Cheers, and arks of " Divide.") 210 , 2 There O. C. LEWIS interposed for the purpose of call- Math* attention of the house to the oath by the lunacy cenunieeiesers on catering ea the office. The right honourable baronet had read the feeth which hound the oommiesioners to " Keep 'acne all such matters as shall comae to my space in my office, =when called upon to diadoes by legal authority, or hotter execution of the duty imposed oo me by this see Of course the authority of the Speaker would be Ind iana fee any member, but it could sot be exercised with out firma notice, and in coosequenos of a resolution of thebosse, and it apps red to him that under any circum aneses the coarse now propmed would b. • very inconve nient oss. Os the contrary, if hie (Sir G. C. Lewis's) se3- peilies wen followed they would have the report of the sake heard, which would have, of comae, more weight than the datimeest at any angle commissioner made without canommicetion with hie colleagues. He had no wish to the hems taking any pains to elucidate the cam. pia eeglitt the matter was we that could not be over, bat that the mahout's information to be derivedf a r i o c :n the report el the isonimicaosere would be eufficient for all P r.rffffTVIIIIIE thought they had already quite eufficiert information, sad be regretted that the unhappy dream Blasco should have bees bnieglit under the notice of the louse. Taking, however, for panted all that had bees stated by the hon. and learned member for Sheffield, he felt int difficulty iu treating the nutter so a breach of privi- He was not aware that en unhappy oatmeal. to =h all mankind were subject, diequali&d • member frees giving his vote ; nor, indeed, that the goodies had oarless raised as an of privilege Supposing • coeusiteee to be eppointed, what was it to inquire into! Was It to in quire into the sanitary coalition of the unhappy gentleman, or were the to take it for muted that the certificate of two m men was to decide on the competency of any member et that house. In hie opinion such questions ought set to he raised ; for, remember, gentlemen were in such eases rest tolunatie sevlurnia which were to all inteeta and KT:Mprisons, and thou the martian might arise whether i.! to put a member snider each latralet without communicating the fact to the house. Racy were to be coo elided by the certificates of two medical men, ainallarquestioos would frequently be raised, and very painful communications would sometime% have to be made to the house. He re grate I that any member of that house should have felt himself justified in bringing such a question for ward. There were subjects which sere better let alone is an assembly of English geotlernen, and therefore he hoped that the motion would be met by a decided negative. lOW position cheers.) Mr. MILLER said that on the evening of the division, ke had met Mr. Saari in the lobby not knowing that he woe a ff ected, and asked him to joie him (Mr. Miller) in a derriere. Mr. Steuart declined, alleging that not being very well he had gone to live for • short time in the neighbourhood of Richmond. He (Mr. Miller) replied that that was a long distanee to go, to which Mr. Sawed ' observed that he had felt rather servo= lately, and thoright it better to live • little out of awe. Mr. Steuart added that he was quite well then, and =mat to resume his du ties. He (Mr. Miller) bail not the slightest idea that Mr. Snead had suffered or was suffering from mental Ahern, ties, and, having served on 1uu.0.7 committee*, he believed that if Mr. Steuart bed exhibited the slightest symptoms of aberratioe, be (Mt. Miller) should have recognised them. Mr. Simian took • cab by himself, and in it promoted to his readies:a He trusted that the house would out eves aces& to the proposal of the Secretary of State, as it would give as much pain to the family as the success of the arigisni motion. He trusted the house would meet the nos of the hos. and learned member for Sh e ffi e ld t r i :direct negative. Mr. BA&I admitted that this unhappy matter had created n very gnat emeation. but thoeght that the hon. and leased member for Sheffield had been treated with more Yen neceseary severity. It was not only in that house that the matter had been mentioned, but for the last six days it Ind been the principal topic of conversetioa in every circle. (Hear, hear.) If any persons should be glad to Mere the natter thoroughly sifted, it was the mener. who sat on that (the oppoeitioe) side of the house. ite,,Ulo the mos: itetreordinary rumours were in circulation as to the niode ie whirl :1.; =harpy gentleman had been brought there tei vote. (" Oh," from the opposition.) He was only stating what he had hasull, and be thought that the public' II well ea the house were entitled to have the means of corn teVado • right judgment ors the subject. H. LEOX hoped that as one of the oldest deism& ni the besiouraids member whose OMe was then Were the Mine ha might be permitted to say a few wads. Os Friday week he heard that Mr. Steuart, feel ing himself to bin • low nervous stele, had placed him slit sear town is order that the attack, which he felt might ease es, should be ptly met by medial treatment. He met Mr. Btemrt is Um lefty, eft the Wan asked him (Left H. Lessen) Lew be wee gain te vete, ens, over, fterties to dissuade Inn tress the norm wbieb be (Lard B. Lemma) subsequently task, sad which had ales bought dove apes him the dissatisfaction of most of his hinds. ( H. could assure the house that when the bom Kr. NEWDEGATE said the treble lord had put the house is a very awkward position. He add they were unreason able because they objected to a bill of supply being placed before them in a form which bed not been ado pted for 15 years. He (Mr. Newdegate) objected mostdistinctly to that form, as it touched the privileges of that house. They now felt the inconvenience of having the whole financial scheme of the Chcocellor of the Exchequer consolidated in one bill. That was the reason of all the delay which had taken place. If each of three matters had been sub mitted to them separately, as had been the custom for the last thirty or forty years, there would not have been this delay ; but as en independent member, lie wished to Cate that while be felt himself peeluded from a due discussion of these measures on the second reeding, he considered that the privileges of that house were invaded by the manner in which the government had brought forward their present financial scaeme. He could plainly see that their object was to make every financial question a question of confi demos in the goeirement, and in that way to coerce the House of Commons ; but ma a member of that house lie claimed the right to object to such a system. (Hear, hear, and cries of " Divide.") The house then divided : For the adjournment of tho debate 164 Against house of parliament was to have no power of revision—it became them to proceed with caution and deliberation. There could not be a situation conceived where canna sad deliberation were more imperatively demanded. (Hear. War.) The Chancellor of the Exchequer had mentioned the great inconveniences which might arise to the finances and the commerce of the country from this delay, but he bad not been able to realise any precise idea of what those inconveniences were. First of all let them consider the income tax. No doubt ioeonveniences must seise to the government from depending on a tax which in course of time became meting ; but that was not the fault of the House of Commons. (Hear, hear.) The act under which the income tax was need had expired before these measures were brought forward, and if it were • matter of emergency that it should be immediately renewed, why did not the Chancellor of the Exchequer introduce an act, and ask the home to sanction it? (Hai, bear.) But ho felt bound to say, speaking with all deference to the Chan cellor of the Exchequer. that from such slight experience es be had cf the comequesces of that act having expired before a financial exposition had been offered to the house no in. couveeineem could arise. Its action must necessarily be of an ex post facto eberecter. (Hear, hear.) He then came to the great duties as tea sad sugar. What possible in• convenience could happen from the course which the house had taken in deliberatin on the messures of the government ? They ell knew that immediately the resolutions were pawed by the committee of ways and means tia government acted upon these remlutioss. Were the government afraid there would be sa attempt by the opposition to reduce those duties? In the proud ponies in which they stood with respect to that subject they might well defy any attempt. (laughter.) Alibates the law under which those taxes would ultimately beams levied was out sassed the taxes themselves were pad, and no doubt had been paid to a great amount that very day, by virtue of the resolutions passed in committee of ways and mean. (Hear, bear.) Ho sow IMMO to another branch of trade is which the Masculine of the Exchequer would tell him very great misty and lees bad been °ma imed, both to the country and to the Treasury, by the time exhausted in considering the policy of the government. He referred to the paper trade ; sad be begged the house to understand that neither the tends nor the Exchequer could suffer from this suspense. It was quite clear the trade 'lid not believe they suffered, bemuse two hoe. mem. bete who represented different opinions with respect to the policy of the government had contributed to that delay. One hon. gentleman made a motion the other night which was to create delay in the measures of the Chancellor of the Exchequer; while the other, the hon. member for Abingdon, had absolutely on one of those nights devoted to independent members, which the government now so mach grudged them the enjoyment of, plated on the paper • maim for the appointment of a committee to 'squire into the condition of the paper trade, and therefore that representative of limeys, trade did not contemplate any injury to arise from the delay. (Hear, bear.) Bet the Chancellor of the Exchequer knew perfectly well, from the system of drawbacks, that, so far as the Exchequer wee ermeerned, it was impossible the trade could be injured. The hoe. immix: for Manton, in calculation of the mime which he made, told the Chancellor of the Exchequer that by October he would find a 000sidershle loss at then: dirty upon which be calculated. But the Chancellor Exchequer said that that was quite a mistake, that he would not lase a single farthing. (Cheers.) He (Yr. Disraeli) had the income tax, the paper duty, end the tea rap tirot ;,dt saw no reason why partieseat skald not la The motion was consequently lost. Mr. BENTINCK said they had often board that a bad muse made a bad advocate—(cheers and counter cheers) — and he felt bound to say he had not, until that division, thought it possible that any combination of circumstances would make the noble lord at the bead of the government so bad an advocate of any muss he attempted to support ; but be (Mr. Bmitinck) had never bad the good—or rather the had—foetus' to hear any arguments so remarkable and so uncoustitutional as the reasons which the noble lord had given. The noble lord, iu the first place, seemed to consider that the house ought not to go to a division, be. muse the right bon. gentleman the member for Bucks had declared that he did not intend to oppose the second reading of the bill. That might be a very good argument for an boo. member occupying the position of the right hon. gen tleman ; but the noble lord seemed to forget that there were mme hundreds of hon. gentlemen on that side of the house who had also someting to say on the question ; there. fore, if the noble lord said that the debate must close, be muse the right bon. gentleman had signified his intention of not opposing the second reading of the bill, that appeared to him (Mr. Bootjack) to be a very remarkable argument. What that amounted to was simply that they were to prejudge the discussion of the house. As be coi n not sub scribe to that doctrine, and as he was not prepared to re linquish the right of discussion, he begged to move that the house adjourn. Viscount PALMERSTON was very sorry that he was so bad an advocate, but he was somewhat consoled by the result of the division. (Laughter and chews.) If the hon. mem ber really must take the sense of the house, he would bow to the wishes of the majority ; but feeling that they were not likely to have so good an opportunity again, for it was not likely the house would ever he more full—(" No," and cbeen)—be must resist the motion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQIIER explained that the inconvenience to which he had alluded had refer ence to the laborious preemies which must be gone through before the new asseminent could be made, and which would render it difficult, if the delay were further persisted in, to levy within the year the whole of the income tax that would fall due, and that had been reckoned for on the public service. peecioded offering airgahio• the mate. (Hese, bear.) He told the ben. learned member that if be took up the gab** as as adminietrative question—if be mid there had been a breach of duty on the part of the oommissionere of lunacy or on the part of **superintendent of the asylum—then his proper mune would be to put a question* the vernment. sod be (the right hon. gentleman) would sad.etska the matter was properly inquired into; bet if the bee. and learned member took it up as a breach of girivilege and a question affecting the house, then that be (Sir G. C. Lewis) bad nothing to do with the matter. and the comes of the boo. and learned gentleman would be to adder the Speaker. The boo. and leaned member staled be eeeadered it to be a question effecting the privi limn el the bones, and under thine oirmuustance. he told him the proper wares was not to address the government. but the Speaker. (" Year, bear," sad loud cries of "Divide.") The SPEAKER mid that in putting the question to the house he wished to be permitted to say a single word. (Hear, bear.) It was not at all fee the purpose of complaining in any way of what had bees mid by the bee. and learned menthes for Sheffield in regard to coevenatiess which had taken place between them, hecause he thought be had not been acidreend in his individuid, but in his offi cial rapacity in that house. (Hear, hear.) But he wished to do an act of justice towards the boa and learned= man, and to mare the hoses that the bon. sad member entirely concurred with his—rest wine* ea =I in the desire to abstain from brisling th e modes is ' the boom, if such security as the hon. member thought urcessary, and as he (the Speaker) certainly thought aecomary, with regard to the future, could be taken. Therefore, in justice to the hoe. and learned mem ber be would reed a few hoes addressed to hl i ns ai =he e ken. gentleman (Colonel Clifford). one of theea of lunacy, who had spoken, to show bow be lel WWI be obtaining that security for the future. witiedi IMO b feet a condition for the boo. and learned member abstaining in bringing the motion before the heuee. 4M right hon. gus. ii The house then divided— Ayes 145 Nose 233-88 Colman! DICKSON ..id if he wished to prolong this debate it was bemuse he felt that this was a subject on which they could not too long (" Oh," and laughter.) But he nue& protest must the diction of the Chancellor of the Paeliegmer, when he said it was for the convenience of the state that they should goosed with this bill. There were points which the right hon. gentleman ought to have oar Mitered before he introducsed the budget, which he must say was detrimental to the interests of the country. 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