The Express. — London, England, 1855-05-23 00:00:00

10 W- S 4 N, METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS• - The Bishop of LONDON postponed Os uselations at whisk be had gives notice, 4* skis ashieati All the bat Tuesday after Lb' geom. The beets adjourned at lialt-gnat 7 o'clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. NOWA OF LOB.IIB.—TosaDAT, MAT 22. Th. Lois CsAmoshtos took hie soot os the woolen& at o'eiresk. THE ASSIZES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE. Is reply to saw resale from Lord BILOCONAM. The LORD CHANCELLOR said a bill bad been pre =iimar would shortly be istroassed, for the purpose of swim wad w in. A bill for the cossolloation el odseleel paessisve wee is eootaniplatioo, hot it would senek!"111 1 1 4 , dishes the proems melon. Ths BMW fa LONDON primates petitions from several stoltegatilas whims at the east sad of Loads), against the Menispillss siesS Bill. Os Os anodes sf the LORD Cusses:zoo, the Alteration of Thai. INE monad a lest time. EARL GRITS RESOLUTIONS ON THE VIENNA CONFERENCES. Lord LYNDHURST wished to ask the noble earl opposite (Uri Grey) what ewes he seam to pursue with respect to the motion which stood is his nano for Friday nest ; whr ther he mess , to deviate from the some which he had in tooled to passe, is esseeltsence of the scene of the pro viso sight, of which he believed the noble earl was a spectator. Berl GREY said he moat undoubtedly was a spectator of the seem to which the noble and learned lord had adverted. He meld not say be wee ea edified spectator. (Laughter.) I He amid only farther say that he wee sot at present aware of any sufileient mason for his postponing the motion of which be had given notice. If any reams could be shown why he ought not to bring it forward he Amid be prepared to seaside' it. TM Earl of DERBY said:he did not mean to suggest any comes to the mobile earl ; but he had understood that he pagmmed ►is motion in order that it might not interfere with the very important discussion which had been gemmed in the other house, and in order that when it came on be might Mee the advantage of the prestige which would no doubt have aocompanied the developments la the debate 'bombers, as weU as of the divides which would have messemd, and be would suggest to hint that similar motives to t►ese which induced him to postpone his motion till Friday should now lead him to comsat to a further post- parent. Berl GREY said that in misters/ as be had done before ea a porpossamt, he had not bees influenced by any pet ered residerations. It was strongly represented to him that these who took an interest is the +abject in the other hems thought it would be disadvantageous to them if he Weight It forward ; and having undentoed that they were predetermined to introduce it, he, with groat reluctance, sad Lein , We own opinion, consented to postpone his metier Lewd LYNATIVRBT said he understood that it had been stated that some aerstiations at Vienna were still pending, and that It would he astray to the public interest for any dietaries to take plea until those negotiations were closed. He was very desires , of Mowing *Mt was the state of those necrotiatioss. Easel GRANVILLE said his noble friend (Earl Grey) who witnessed the scene of the previous evening must be at least as able to answer the noble and learned lord as him. melt It was not true, however, that the negotiations at Vines were cloud. The government was open to receive say proposition which might lead to • safe end honourable pease; sad they would, on the other hand, decline any term which they thought might lead to a contrary result. The essierasesa, he repeated, were not resod. It was for the sable earl User, to unaider, and he (Earl Granville) alleaki he the last person to point out to him, what course his sear ell kis publie duty would lead him to take. He made as appeal to the noble east as the part of the govern mat; all he amid say wee, that her Majesty's government would be prepaid to meet the queer= whenever it might be Mower leeward. Lost LYNDHURST said thimble earl had stated that the coaferesees were not closed. Were any negotiations gorges ? (Hear.) lied say proposition been made by either of the No powers? and it so, was that proposition still under consideration, or had it been rejected? Was there • probability of any further proposition being made, and bed the government made up its mind as to the period at which the references should be closed? Than were, he submitted, important cossideratioas. lie bad never beard anything more eerie than the statement of the perantent on this subject. (Hear.) The 'abject then dropped. TAB FIBRE COMPANY BILL. TM Earl of HARD WICKE moved the suspensicn of lending seder No. 176, in order that this bill might be read a Ind time. He said he klieg nothing of the promoters, rapt that their object wee to carry out • new invention for the sannfacture of paper. From 1840 to 18.54 the eon suseption of that article increased from ninety-six millions to am hundred and seventy million pounds per annum, sad there was great diSculty is providing an adequate sup . ply. It bad been recently discovered that flax was en article which could be used in the manufacture of paper ; the fibre which remained after the extraction of the oil being well adapted to the purpose. The order which steed in the way of the second reading of the bill bad been suspended is favour of railways and of the electric tele graph, ad its suspension in this cue could do no injury to the public. Lord REDESDALE said the bill was based en the prin ciple of limited liability, and if that were conceded in this u se, tbey Might bombed to concede it in others.. Lord BTANLAY of ALDERLAY thought that no special as s bad been made eat for the suspension of the standing order. After some tenversation, the motion was withdrawn. LEASE AND SALES OF SETTLED ESTATES BILL. I The LORD CHANCELLOR said that when he moved the int reeding of this bill last week he bad stated shortly the obis* and prevision of this bill ; he would, therefore, only we that it be mad a second time. Its object seas net to isterkre with the practice of settling estates, bat only to remove the obstaelse the p ted ens* persons from eosin any eattlentest. He proposed to give power to the Court of Chancery to supply these powers when omitted; bat if either the will or settlement cos taieed say prohibition. either germs or resitiag by seeessary implication, the court would have no power to bitable). At present the greeter number of estate billy were seat before their lerdslups by the direction of the Court of Chancery, and the g reat ezpeese incurred wee wholly nansemsary. He had that day received a letter from one el the Tice-Chaaaellon aside( whether the bill woe likely to pace doting the present sessies, as there was an estate now in his smart is which it sea desirable to give these powers, sad be did not wish to pat the estate to the exposes of a private set of parliameat if the bill was likely to pare. He had no doubt objections would be raised against his bill, as it would diminish very mirk:tasty the mein meats of professional men; and it would also affect the fees of their lemiships' house. He proposed to give tenants for life whit isms into the peeeeesioa of settled estate the power if issies Am 14 years. Bat if that term were considered es=lso wield sot insist epos it. He bad no wish to ballad host the WM. He Warted the words "or billed," because it was easier to strike cut than to insert swab. With regard to the powers of sell, half of the estate aft tame Ws em saki; bet the Caul el Chancery was aellivehei Ie sell whore it appealed as Ibi flee of the will M mlitesmit dist sub r il e ailleirlaw lb the will of the adds& The MR sus thee mad a send Om ECCLESIASTICAL PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL. Lard 11011TEAGLE stored the mood reading of this bill, whisk was mined to. CUSTOMS DUTIES BILL. This bill passed through ememittes. SPIRIT, Ike. DUTIES• (EXCISE) BILL. This bill pared through ormalttee. SEWERS (HOUSE) DRAINAGE BILL. Oa the moths el the Earl of lisarnesual this bill was reed a sawed time. The strieMai nem were suspeaded, sad the bill passed its remeisleg Mow as shanties hav ing beet weds is owe of the assess la emstaittee. RELIGIOUS WORSHIP BILL. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY send the woad reading el M MIL The S East of CARNARVON hoped, as the bill was sot is Im=lle. that the noble earl would postpone it till The Bishop of LONDON seconded the :cooed of the sere essl, as the MR involved as isportaat prhedple. (Ileswiseaille mat set Mimes% to It as it WV stood without salves* te obviate 'stabs evils which be sp posheedei freslL TM duel of SHANTESBUZY was surprised that the right see. mists shoal/ objets is then ill. He shouldsure. on the thirit melee make a seamiest to jtify the mea Laid lIIDESDALR—The oak earl was bayed to make a slatimeas that day, before the bill passed another stage. The Earl of MATTSON/1Y was understood to say that be was set reigemille he net having Elude a stets on& lithe MB aim west thrash esessittes pro forwvs, it moll sisilie the emesissMs, and would be in the heads of disk RAMP • Thanday. The Bishop .1 LONDON repeated kis objeetioss to the The led of DERBY suggested that fail opportasity sheath he stesele essider the bill after it was in the hands el thele helliip is the amended farm. The beet sours meta he Is the VII to be committed pro forme. end then seammtlei after the recess. The Ertel SHATIZABURY sessilel to this suggestios. Aim a low mei hes the=or Loans and Lord Ream rasa, the MB game sommitue pro forma. ART REPRESENTATION (SCOT- T A : ba l lE ACT AMENDMENT BILL. 4 bgesili wassittee. EGISTRATION OP BIRTHS, &a. (SCOTLAND) BILL. This bill passed through essmittes. bander ; and that the sum allotted to them was not more than was necesesay to astable them to live like gentleman, and to keep up a respectable appearance. The WIG. mem ber had retuned te what bad been dby Sir Hassan' Seymour with reaped to the social status of our ministers. Everybody menthe aware that diplomatic intercoune was best fended ea when the ambassador was on Memo( easy and frisedlyeenenstnioation with the government to whisk he was aseredited, and also with the other diplomatic agents at the sewn sad with persons of distinction in the country. It serial intercourse, that when a minister had not the means of that esia intercourse, but when he must dwell alone in the mikado of his own house, or must receive hospitalities whisk be could not Mora, the interests of his country could act be so well served as if he were on terms of easy social (elation with the persons amongst whom he was thrown. Again, the bon. gentleman said that we only wanted one minister in Germany and one in Italy. Now, it was per fectly true that Bonaparte said that Frankfort was the watch-tower of Germany, ad it was also perfectly true that an active and intelligent minister at Frankfort could obtain • great deal of useful -information as to the policy and the Inters policy of the German powers. But he apprehended that Napoleon I. had never acted upon his own maxim to the extent of confining his diplomatic agents to Frankfort alone. It w-s impossible that an 'gent living at Fraaktort weld give his government all the information which it was wahine have. Germany was divided into many powers, which were leas than Austria and Prussia, but which were all nevertheless estential elements in the general policy of Germany. By keeping up, therefore, the means of obtain ing information in those smaller courts they would be enabled to ascertain facts which were of the utmost import use with regard to the policy, the conduct, and the views of the larger states. The hon. gentleman said that Wur temburg had no minister in this country, and that therefore there was no necessity for us to have one at Wurtemburg. But surely that was the very reason why we should have one there. (Hear, hear.) If we bad not, we should have no means of communicating with Wurtemburg at all, and so long as it continued to be an independent ele ment in the system of Europe, it was necessary that we should possess those means. So far from any advantage ac cruing to us trout dispensing with ministers to the smaller German states, he was convinced, after the very long cape rinCil he had had of foreign affairs, that such • COWS* would be essentially injurious to our interests. The hon. gentleman said he could not see of what use any informa tion could be that we received from these smaller states, but of course nobody who was not in the daily habit of receiving despatches from foreign agents could be expected to know the atility of such communications. He could only say that, in his opinion, it would be a groat injury to our interests if we had to communicate to all those states through our agent at Frankfort 'lone. For, what was Frankfort ? Frankfort was a place where delegates from the other states assembled. Those delegates no doubt possessed important powers at • diet, but, alter all, they were not governments. Suppose we had any matters relating to commerce with Hanover, or any disputes with Bavaria or Saxony, we could not address our communications or our complaints to the Diet. (Hear, hear.) The same remarks applied to the three Italian states in which we had ministers. It had been mid that we ought not to have permanent ministers in these sonde, but that when any question arose we ought to send some person who would do our business. But unless a person lived on the spot, and followed up the thread of events, he would not be able to transact our affairs for us so well as would otherwise be the case; and, moreover, the emit of these spatial missions, if they at all frequently °c aused, would ba much greater than employing permanent residents. (Hear, bear.) Then his hon. friend had referred to eke example of the United Steno. Bat the United States had ressetly been compelled to resits the whole of their diplomatic end consular establishments, and that not at all in the way of reduction. On the contrary, they bad been obliged to Increase greatly both the number and the salaries of those establishments. But though in some places they had doubled the salaries of their diplomatic agents, he (the noble lord) still feared that their representatives would not and themselves entirely relieved from the painful position in which to his certain knowledge he had sometimes known them to be placed. Nevertheless, the United States gave much larger allowance than this country. They gave outfit and travelling expenses, and he believed that in certain instances the missions of the United States had been more expensive within a small period of time than the corre sponding English missions. (Hear, hear.) In conclusion, he (the noble lord) could assure his hon. hi- ad that this subject of our diplomatic and consular establishments had not bean overlooked. There was no d ' n the part of the government to avoid reductions whenever they could be made with a due regard to the public service, and in pelat of fact several had already been made. Vacancies occurred so seldom that the diplomatic service to a young man who entered with a view to make his living by it was not a very promising profession. It was, however, • great mistake to suppose that in the higher appointments the selection of persons to fill them was not made with a view to efficiency. It was much more to the interest of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs that efficient men should fill the different missions than to oblige any political friend that might apply to him on behalf of soy particular candidate. It had always been his (Lord Palmerston's) anxious wish to Sod persons fit for the offices which he had to fill, because the credit of the Secretary of State, to put the matter in the narrowest point of view, was more at stake in the efficiency of the persons whom he appointed than is obliging any two or three or half • dozen persons who might apply to him on behalf of a less deserving man. Of eaves the moment they departed from the rigid princi ple of seniority—which would be quite out of place in the diplomatic service—they must expect to be assailed with charges of favouritism, of partiality, and of selecting the less fit man to the prejudice of one more tit. A minister' meld only choose one man out of perhaps half-mcloaen can didates, end immediately he made his selection the friends alike rest would complain that the choice was an improper one because he bad passed over Cousin Tom, or Uncle Dick, it Friend Robert. (A laugh.) It might be quite true that the persons passed over were nearly or quite as fit as the one chosen, but then the minister could only select one. But even the less fit would complain. It would be said that so and-so had been for many years • paid attaché, and yet a younger man, who had not served half so nog, was appointed over his head. While, how ever, the principle of seniority was departed from the government must expect such criticism. (Hear, hear.) Again, it had been made a subject of complaint that our diplomatic agents had not written books on diplomacy. But it our agents had not leisure or love for such a task, they were at all events sufficiently conversant with the works of others who had written, as to be able efficiently to p.rform their duties. Those duties were to furnish their govern ment with fall, accurate, and true information as to what was going on around them ; to conduct with courtesy and ability the negotiations which passed between their own government sad that to which they were accredited; and to prevent any little differences that arose from growing into quarrels. Hardly a month or six weeks passed without some matter arising between two governments, which by prudent, courteous management might be settled to the satisfaction of both, but which might otherwise have led to • rupture. It was surely better that these matters should be entrusted to diplomatic agents than left to our admirals and generals—to threats and recourse to force. (Hear, hear.) With respect to examinations for the diplo matic service, he bad to state that yesterday an order in enincil was made with a view to establish a system of ex aminations of persons to be appointed. (Cheers.) Whea at Me head of the Foreign-office he was in frequent oommuni settee with the London University on the subject, and he bad no doubt that it would also meet with the anxious at tention of his noble friend (Lord Clarendon). Mr. W. WILLIAIU. Mr. J. G. PAILLIYOIIII, Mr. WHITS.. me, and Sir G. FIICHILL, having spoken, Mr. OTWAY said while he was obliged to the noble lord ffirr having established a test for admittance into the civil wales of the country, yet he must allude to some topies in the speech of the noble lord. The noble lord said that it was always his and other foreign ministers' habit to select the best men for posts in diplomacy. If facts bore out the statement of the noble lord he should sot have made any observations; but reference having been made in the mune of the debate M • work called " The Foreign-office List," he would make a few extracts from it, which might well be mast elegant extracts. They referred to promotions and appointments in the diplomatic service which had been con ferred solely en the sons and relatives of peers. Nothing could be more illiberal or unworthy of any one than to wish to put • bar on the promotion of men merely because they were the relatives apogee, but it was nevertheless true, that in a large public service requiring men of education, talent, and efficiency, it was a matter worthy of remark, that in the service of this great empire the only persoas who got promotioa were the sass or relatives of peers or cabinet ministers. lie would not go through a long list of cases, which any gentleman might see for himself by put- Oaring a Foreign-office List for • shilling ; but he would select two cues which showed the injustice of the system. The first ow was that of Mr. Loam. The noble lord bad been *co long foreign secretary that he must be able to ap preciate the services of Mr. letsom. That gentleman was appointed attaché at Berlin in 1831, was removed to Maeda in 1834 ; Is. 1840 he was removed to Washington, and was /X the int time e paid attaché ; in 1849 be was appointed to Twin, sad to Madrid in 1850, and in 1864 he was made secretary of legatioa in Mexico. Thus after twenty-three years' service, nine of which were unpaid, be was appointed secretary of legation at Mexico, which was not the most desirable post in the service. The other ease was that of the Hon. H. G. Howard, which was a very 'different one. He was appointed attaché at Paris in 1838, and in 1841, only three years after, was promoted to be se rood paid attaché at Paris, and in 1844 lint paid attaché, I with a salary equal to that of some secretaries of legation, and in two years more (in 1846) he was •P• plaited secretary of legation at the Hague. He bad thus been is the service only eight years, I during three of which only was he an unpaid easel* and 'that in the most agreeable court in Europe. Contrast the ease of Mr. Howard with that of Mr. Lenora. There were sumerous other eases mentioned in the book to which he had alluded. He found gentlemen who had been long in the service, and in posts in the Atlantic and Pasific, role lid to small posts; while other gentlemen, who had passed Herr time pleasantly in Paris or - Vienne, were placed over the heads of men of auger service. That was the ease of Mr. Allison, at Constantinople, where that gentleman, a profound oriental scholar, had been for so many pears, and who mu a paid atteohd before Lord Napier entered the service, and yet the latter had been made secretary of *ratios over the head of Mr. Allison, Mr. Doris, and other. Again, he said be did not wish to debar the eons ard relatives of peen from entering the public service ; bat it must not be Mid that the best UM men always *sleeted, when it was shown that when the sena of two seediest men happened to get into the eat-I Vice, they were p&1144 OVIIIT is the manner he had duricji Then there wee the Hon. Edward John Steals,, these,,.! the nobleman who now very worthily filled the oaks ' sident of the Board of Trade. What was his sue ? la No the noble lord (Palmerston) had each as *ga t ws capability that he made him his precis-welter; la MI was appointed second paid attaché at Ceinstantinople: read in six days after be was made first paid attache : sad a 6th January, 1854, this son of the President of the Board Trade—by no means because he was his son, but beaus h i was the best and fittest man—e. hear, hear," and 'avow —was selected for the put of secretary of leg it i c i at Athens. (Hear, hear.) Believieg as he (Mr 624441 did that the noble lord had the service to which he for so groat a time at heart, he could not imagine hoer th noble lord could sleep at night—(" hear," our k n o ts*. while gentlemen were receiving no promotion who w oo at Constantinople when he was at the Foreign-office, tad who would remain as they were until their relatives ow e found to be the fittest men to be appointed Presidents of the Board of Trade. (Hear, hear.) As to the unpaid anodi c he found, in the book which be had mentioned, that Petro(with whom he was acquainted), and who was a yet accomplished gentleman, was appointed to Friskiest 1 4 1646, and was now at Paris as an unpaid attache, bid NI received a shilling during his nine years' service. Then than was Mr. Lytton, the eon of the hon. baronet of that naine,olis inherited his father's talents, who was appointed in 1849.11, was not a fashionable young gentleman, and he had bulb the United States, to Florence, and to Paris, and doss service, with no pay. Then came another ,— Lord de Burgh,—who was appointed attache in 1852, mg h lea than three years was passed over the heads of all ta s unpaid attachés, and made paid attaché at Turin is (Hear.) He could give more instances of this kind, and hs sew surprised that the noble lord should make the statementilis had made, and, knowing the facts, could declare that inthe diplomatic service men were selected for their flung alone, sad that it wu the interest of the Foreign Miantera to select them. It wu clear that in the diplomatic two. lion men were selected for promotion for two reasons oel7 ; either because they were relatives of cabinet ministers et peers, or because they had parliamentary interest to wasp 'their promotion. With these facts before 1 . 111/1, be hoped g o aoble lord would not think it unbecomingin him teed that a stop should be put to things of this kind, lAA were hrin3ing the public service into discredit. Not dubs objected to noblemen being appointed to office, but ha 1 6. l justad to their being appointed only because they was noblemen; whereas the fittest mss should be Hug e l, whether he was the son of a peer or a tailor. All thg I was complained of was that appointments should be nail I is the diplomatic service on account of personal mum* sad not of fitness. (Hear, hear.) Mr. WISR said that, after the statement of the ashy, lord, he thought he should better serve the object be bad in view by withdrawing the motion, being satiiified eitt having ventilated the subject, and having been the WI move in that house in the cause of administrative reform. Mr. H. J. BAILLIE objected to the withdrawal dis motion, and said be would divide the house. The house divided— For the motion Against it The announcement of the numbers was received viiik loud cheers. _ _ _ THE BALLOT. Mr. COBDEN presented several petition from the Ide If Wight and other places in favour of vote by ballot. Mr. H. BERKELEY then rose and said—l has ban told often in the course of this session that I was brink forward this question at a most disadvantageous time, whoa the thoughts of all persons are fixed on the war into skids the country is plunged, and at a time when metes mist were perplexed, mortified, and almost maddened by ths I effects of a succession of victorious disasters. But lex eider that there never was a time when it was moo. WV I feat that the people's house should consist of members freely chosen by themselves, and this neither is, nor ever mu to, the cue under the present electoral system. For those who are opposed to all parliamentary reform, the war doebtlis has a charm ; while to those who put on the garb of is. formers as a matter of expediency, and to please their constituents, the pre-occupation of the minds of the people then being roused to arms is no doubt a seasonable relief. But to many serious reformers the calamities of this war and the waste of the blood and tressure of the conatry are appalling, and they can thick of no other reform than that of the evil immediately before than. To this class of reformers I would more particularly and re spectfully address myself, and endeavour to convince them that no better state of things can reasonably be seeded under our present representative system. I would nips it on all true reformers and on the country (for it is auks to attempt to impr, as it on this house), that all the blinds sad failures of the war departments it the management ales war have arisen from very plain and perceptible causes. The first cause is, because the goverment of the country has become hereditary, and the property els claws—(hear)--because the majority of thelionte of Comas, as I have shown over and over again in debates on this subas, being returned by that class, is no check upon it. Fain our present representative arrangements there may is s change of ministers, but there is no change of the opts, and it is not likely there should be any change. Whit tho people know of a change of ministry ? What sty know is this—they know that one set of aristocrats S squires and lawyers eject another, who go out triste sae —(laughter)—and the other set of aristocrats, squires, sod lawyers, sanopere gautientes , succeed them, and grsp their way into office. (" Hear," and laughtei.) They 1110 that gentlemen who sit on the opposition benches rd against those who sit on the treasury bench, and completed jobbery, and red tape, and routine, and that they sty " Only let us get into office, and then you will see whatys shall see." (Laughter.) And when they do get into oft what do we see? (Laughter.) Why, when they hiss herited, by the political deaths of their opponents, ens sacred edifices in Whitehall and Uowniog-street, wefsl that they have taken possession, with those edifices, of ie.:- bery, and red tape, and routine, and they continue is* places reserved for the aristocracy. Taught by diuster, its people are fully . alive to the atrocities of the system, sad they desire inquiry into the cause of all this. Can anytbis be more apparent than the cause ? It is because her Will can only select her advisers from a few great families, is monopolise all place and all power—who, not cootowi with the full possession of the upper house, monopolise tht majority of the House of Commons. Not only the million of the crown, but the leaders of oar armies, and the WS of our civil and military departments, are chosen not fe their ability or sent, which it is quits tumble they any possess, but because they belong to families seasonal as to be able to make or mar a ministry. And this is because their strength and influence lies in the power they nuns over the votes of electors, and because by the malversatim of the franchise they become omnipotent in this house (Hear.) The aristocratic factions have desperate fiebta place, but they differ only on speculative points. Oa points which go to the monopoly of gover nment they an united as one man, and I believe if places couldbe (Nab both factions, the Hones of Commons would become sots cage for Whigs and tories, united in one lire , I*1:11 family—(laughter)—political cats fraternising with Ps** rabbits. (Laughter.) The people are not only ingest If the disasters which have rendered us almost contomptiblos the eyes of Europe, but they are sick of governess listed from the red book, and ministers of state chassis Burke's Peerage ; they are sick of aristocratic Stens and sick of seeing our well tried soldiers of to East forced to give place to courtly So"" sad the soldiers of the West-end. All this ** loudly for inquiry. I may be told ibel s have had a committee of inquiry, and that a comait ts inquiry is at present sitting, or rather that it his OL P : eluded its labours, and that it is just about bringisf * r: report. Now what is there to prevent that ioqUei . . , The committee roes" thi way of all ether inquiries) - have done their duty, se other committees bars date — teel i They have amassed vast blue books, and they will, weft I have no doubt, with a very stringent and sticiPell 10 ; upon which some measure of reform may be founded.. Bet* that measure, judging from the pest, tends to istoile - ion! -- es - ',Masa% the leer* with the ...nuance, the privileges of the upper clams it will not pu s the this house, or it will be so mutilated in com mittee It Or coins totally inoperative. Instances of the tort war but We had lately a splendid instance, which wan got UP I ' o rid of popular clamour. The house will rec ollect tee loe., the last general election a universal cry rose throutiosi,,,,' land in reference to our electoral system, and ever' O emoted to be shocked and ashamed of our septeimisi, Emilia, the orgies which lied been passed through bea m more unblushing eharectsr than usual. The Fa L: r'Aberdesa cried out for a change, and every memlonti Aberdeea government had his pocket-handlterebrol_,„,,il , kande weeping for the depravity of the land. (la i r; To be sure it was very bad. Intimidation, tabsrl.,,„ gaining for mate, perjury, end beer influence, bad dfo_il worst and their best for meeting a peer-packed tor_,, Commons. (Hear, hear.) Ministers were midi ~, Before& Bill, but it proved abortive, for lee. e m Mi could net be got to support it, for by so &meg thrf I have got rid of their constituencies and tamed I oat of the house. ("Hear, hear," and laughter.) " 14 hat eomethiug must be done, for John Ball was st_ ,r„ led, the electoral abominatinoble lord the alembic 11 '.; City of London determined upon a committ ee, whisk 'to be • hind of safety valve. It was wormed of torlf; men, who no doubt did their duty, as that c omisittbs 'done who have just concluded their labows, framed a measure, which came into the BO to mons, purporting to put down bribery and lc amio, n 7. It was called the " Corrupt Practices Frivolities Now, whatever there was in that bill calcul std u , down bribery was carefully erased in cconnittak, the pretence of dealing with undue influence waste ti patently absurd that the house was perfectly ckianlio,,, I it, and it not only passed through this home 'art ths.r.,, house also with a flourish of drums and tram psOL Tr i p gentlemen en the upper house were puler tly deligt ace that they were able to pass a hill pnunding : d o reform bill, which in no way put dons or isterfe if their corrupt practices. Now I have. before solo clever analysis of this Corrupt P racticee ri,r,o Act, written very shortly aftee it beanie " 10 ',0 this the editor of the Toms tornarked—"ll IN :j1 mony to the honesty and power of this act be corerst , ,_:# have no doubt that it is, the act is eaerely d o , Y. — . profemions." Well, then, thia pompom 'neatly the atoot of the i nterference of Lord LL THE EXPRESS. WEDNESDAY . irINING, MAY 23, 1855. ROUSE OF COMMONS.—TuzaDAT, MAY 22. The &eases took the chair at twelve o'clock. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Mr. WILSON stated that if the hen. member for Aylee bury did not bring on his station ea Thursday, government would take the estimates on that evening. METROPOLIS LOCAL MANAGEMENT BILL. The hew west into enondttee on this bill. Sir E. wax pdsiesil the 27th and 28th clauses, be eves saw wets wmtlsg Is Nast to clause 28, which had ellessegbeels Palgented. The eight boa. baronet also stated eat lie beleePled to heft up clauses appointing pariah &Weal in kap diarists*" be takes by wards ; and is the Isom et • stabesquest asysesatioa, farther intimated that, Illm Woe heist &Woods remained the 'deal* of the estenden a litesesPe Me te Ilse winds cid tie Etas digliksts, hap/epees& te istralsee dams that pelted* ea the present bill. Clause& la SO, with theeseeptions above enumersted, were agreed te. Os 11111111111 40, providing for the inspeetios of books by ratepayers, Sir H. WILLOUGHBY suggested that owners of pre perty se well al ratepayen should have the right of teepee doe. After a brief conversation the suggestion was adopted, ad the clause with some other verbal amend mole cee peesei. Seleiqueee deems to 46 were agreed to. Olt 111•1110 47, providing that sewers, except main towers, be vested in vestries and district boards, Lard BBRINGTON expressed an opinion that if the niloseeteent were entrusted to 36 separate jurisdictions, with 36 separate sets of engineers and diems, there would be constant disputes between them and • vet, large increase of expense, ad need that at tint, at all events while the great works of drainage were ping es. the management should be is the hands of the great metropolitaa board. Lord R. GROSVENOR *soldiered that such was the strong desire for self eat on the pert of 19-20 the of the perishes, that if his soble friend's euggiatioss were caroled out the bill would become unworkable. Sir W. CLAY took the same view. Mr. B. BARING considered that the mere hoses drainage ought to be under the control of the district boards. bet not works in any *ay cotneeted with the win drainage, which ought to be entirely vested in the heads of the metropolitan beard. Mr. WILLIAMS approved of the bill as it stood. Mr. LABOUCRERE believed the sueutee whether the whole sewerage of the metropolis shouid be vested in the bands of a central body, or in the hands of a number of local bodies under the supervision of the central body, was one of the most important involved in the bill Upon the whole, esseidering tie fullest of the ratepayers ea the subject, and believing that they were competent to manage this matter so fee as the house and the mere local drainage were concerned, he was disposed to support the proposition of his right boa. friend (Sir B. Hall). Sir B. HALL said it was true that all the drainage of the me tropolis had failed under one board ; bat the quesUos was west plan was to be adopted ; and he thought, consi dering the population of London, the number of boards in the bill would not be found too large as each:uld repri sing about 80,000 persons. With regard topowers of the board, they were sot more arbitrary than those of the Commissioners of Sewers of the City of London. Out of 1,500 miles of streets in the metropolis, there were 666 without drains', and while there were 306,000 houses, there were 160,000 without any drainage at all. Eves in Maryle bose. in first clam streets, there were numbers of houses without sewers. If, therefol• power were given to thee* boards to sake *ewers , the abo minations of coupools would be dose away with. The general feeling of the metropolis was that the sewerage should be taken from a Central board sad gives to local boards. He hoped, therefore, this clause would be tamed. Lewd EBRINOTON urged that the Central Commission of Sewers was not so much in fault is its dealing with sewerage as the legislation under which they acted, which gave them only nominal powers. He did not wish that there should be no powers given to districts, but that there should be fewer districts, and he only advocated the system of • central body as a less inconvenient plan than that in the bill. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said the question was whether the appoistment of 38 boards was a good plan of managing the 'swinge of just so many districts. He thought it doubtful that such a system would work well, and the instance of the City of London was not an analogous one, for there there wee one uglier= system, whieh was not likely to be obtained by 36 boards, moat probably pulling different ways. Lord SEYMOUR wished to know why these thirty-six districts had been selected as the most convenient for the district sewerage of the metropolis. The object ought to be to get districts of such a site as would be enabled to obtain the ablest engineers, and of mune the larger they were the greater would be their ability to get such an *newer. He wished to know if a district board wanted to carry a sewer under a church, or any public building, whether the central board had power to prevent it. Sir B. HALL had taken most of the thirty-six districts principally from parishes sole, and the others, which eseeheei el incorporated parishes, as they stoo ne u ral paw kier He thought under , the bill the g com et sewers would have such a power as his noble Mud sereleeed ; but if the words of the clause were not saliva(., be egad have weeds put in which would be waling. The rase was agreed to. Hie IL HALL said, from the next clause to clause 70, the pieelhleas were taken from existing sets. Os deem 48, a discussion, originated by Mr. C. Bee Lia, awswiles be wuether there were powers is the bill to pro log* the esstamination of the smaller rivers in the neigh lbeneheed of the metropolis by the turning of Sewage into Mum; and it was stated that the power to establish a =of interceptive drainage was the only provision on Meet i- , the bill. Lead SEYMOUR suggested that there 'bosh' be a elms vibes would prevent any sewage Sowing into the Tres ghat a certain date, looking to the period at which Om mole sewers could be completed. He thought also that Mau emelt to be provisions against the drainage being above low water level. Sir B. HALL said a clause sleight be introdseed to compel the Commissioners of Sewers to commence their works at once, and to proceed with them as fast as possible. The clause as amended was agreed to. The ClAtigat then repeats& progress, and asked leave to eh ands es Friday, at 12 o'clock. The bees* this resumed. THE DERBY DAY. On the motion of Lord BARIUNOTON, the hoses at its rising was ordered to adjourn to Thursday. The house then adjourned till six o'clock. The house resumed at 6 o'clock. NOTICES OF MOTIONS. Mr. HEYWOOD pee sodas that he should upon that day mouth move for an address praying her Majesty te issue her commission to substitute open examination fee the system of nomination at present prevailing at the Military College. Woolwich. Mr. OTWAY gave notice of his intention to put the fol lowing question to the noble lord at the heed of the mess meat on Thursday next ; whether it wee WM that the people of the principalities of Welbehis bed been sabiested to mortis! law by the Austrian swebealdess If pee, whether that step had been takes with the eseeurrease of her Majesty's government ; whether say commialeatioss ad passed between the government and the governmen t of Austria epos the subject, and whether thole was any ob ;adios to lay such communication spoa the table of the 11Ouse. (Hear beer.) Mtge/ REID pee reties that he should withdraw his ressaiseat spas Mr. Bakeley's motion upon the ballet ; be she wan that, in case that motive was thrown out, he mime for leave to bring in a bill granting the see of the ballet to constituencies where a majority of the electors petitioned:for it ; at the same time reserving for them the privilege of returning to the present mode of open voting in the event of their not being satisfied with the ballet system. PURCHASE OF COMMISSIONS. Mr. RICH read his resolutiose, the purport of whisk was to condemn the system of purchase in the army, sad to pledge the house to its abolition at the earliest expedient period. PATENTS IN INDIA. Kr. COWAN wished to know whether goverment in tended to bring in a bill this nation 'slaters to the bees of patent. is India? Kr. V. SMITH—No. Orders bad been sent est to the Governer•Oeseral to prepare a draft MUM. STATE OF THE NATION.—THE ADJOURNMENT. Kr. DISRAELI took that opportanity of asking a few observations relative to the debit* of the parkas esaleg. It appeared to him that the state of the national alas woo My critical, and that the honour and reputation of as hose ware ooncerned is not letting what had weaned gee unnoticed. (Hear.) Oa the maim to width he ahead the language of the geminated wee to equivocal, and their domains altogether so discounting, as to make hies shrink from agitating to the motion for the holiday ed jouramet, without the trial of moan means by whisk the publie mind might be reanimated, and • more Mies mat of the position of Stain obtained than say mllimblek the hose had as yet been favoured. The house vaatitaelbM that in 1863 they were informed that negotiations/Peat sasseat were then taking plea, gen the Mee GI ttktsit the quastion of peas or war depended, sad foOKIM dies that xe information could at the time be ib teas the gesststst. The was sight be said en nelegvist easios, upon every one of whisk the answer el the govern. swat had bees the mass, stately, *Sow important ma (Wades were pending, any remarks side is that bens sight have an iojutious effect on our diplissey. The Is,. Santee exhibited by the boss was exemplary, es suck se that there was silence is the boss daring the wheat el the session, netwithotaading the great anxiety et the eimatry ; and the eoaseqeence was, that we " drifted" inte war. (Hear, hear.) The country now found itself togged La a sat end perilous war, without the tadafteties el having any very clear ides legating the obletts SS IN* it bed hoes anted eau, heaths wash they sue befall lined sat depressed with the heist that their merman dna had sever made ass slate effort to obtain the now eery intimates. (Hen) They were mow fairly estoged apes annals a the highest diseares,amil nanny eleitherld had gar some time boss, espied in antidetisme kw yam They toned that these anotations were atria ea suns perms, is the same city, and under the inspiration al ageism cent; sad as the result of rathelies tkeepinin aI the house thing had bus netts aseist the genthametie pew aerviaje pease, but to allow the matey to drift ism gear trees war, the oonesqueta might be now that we drift dates sa ignominious peen during the adjoin... ab l; .; the house. (" Hear, hear," and ahem.) They alai about to adjourn for • period of unused duration, @mg at a eras fall of diner to the country. They bad bees told as the previous evening, amid many ambiguous de elaratiems, that the conference at Vienna, although it was closed, had net seised to exist, and it might happen to them at the sad of the Whitsuntide reeves to ratan to their duties and find that pesos had both obtained on terms not at all satiaketory to the public of this eoentry. (Cheers.) What then would be the feeling of the people, when they lamed that the renewed forbearance of their representatives bad led to consequethes is their opinion so degrading ? (Hear.) It was impossible to deny that there was through oat the country • feeling of dissatisfaction sad disgust , at the ambiguous langsage and uncertain conduct of sink tees with Menace to these negotiations for peace, and ha believed that the feeling also existed in that house. (Hear, hear.) Hs was therefore pomaded that it was their dna before they Toss for th• adjournment to take means that it should sot be laid to the fault of the House of Commons say longer if that uncertainty and ambiguity still pre veiled. (Hear, hear.) For that reason he had [shit his duty to take the int opportunity to ask the opinion of the bone ea this subject, and that the house should take some stem so show that there was at least no uncertainty in the eitedega of the representatives of the people, but that they were prepared to continue to support her Majesty in this ; woe math they had obtained for themselves and for all I pasties concerned a mare and honourable puce (Hear, bear.) With these views he should, in the course of the I main, lay upon the table resolutions at least free from ' 1 ambiguity, and he hoped that the house woald mean to their discussion. He knew that to obtain an opportunity he mut appeal to the kind indulgence and assistance of hem members who had • previous right to the opportunity which he understood the government meant to give as Thenday next. He had understood from a noble lord, • member of the goverameat, that government meant to go into committee of supply on Thursday, not for the purpose of asking for a vote, but in order that hon. members who might wish to call the attention of the house should been 1 , an opportunity for doing so. He believed that the ben. member for Aylesbury had given notice of a motion of great importance. (A laugh.) Of course he had no right to express a wish that that gentleman should give way to him—(oontinued laughter)—nor to presume to press him to do so. AU he (Mr. Disraeli) could say was, that if he I obtained an opportunity he should certainly make his motion, sad eves if the hon. member for Aylesbory persisted, he (Mr. Disaraeli) would do his utmost before the adjournment for the holidays to induce a debate on resolutions whisk be thought tended to vindicate the honour of the beam (Cheers and laughter.) Mr. LAYARD said he most cordially concurred in the sentiments of the right hoc. gentleman who had just sat down. It appeared to him that the question raised by that right hon. gentleman was one of vital importance, and although he considered his own motion of some importance, he should undoubtedly under the eirommatanuegive way to the right hon. gentleman. (Great laughter and cheers.) Lord PALMERSTON said that the right hoe. gentle men had accused hon. members on that side of the house of enacting a scene on the previous evening, but certainly the scene they had just witnessed far exceeded the preceding one in dramatic interest. It had been well done, and he gave the , aeton great credit for their performance. (Laughter.) Of course her Majesty's government bad no objection to meet the motion of the right hon. gentlemen, and therefore it the right loon. gentleman had simply announced his in tention he (Lord Palmerston) would not have thought it necessary to say • word on the subject; but as the right hon. gentleman had complained that the language of government ! on the present position of affairs was, and had been, 'qui- I ' vocal and ambiguous, he (Lord Palmerston) must eatirely, deny the justice of that saltation. If it meant that they 1 had not thought it consistent with their duty to detail the 1 pulse terms of soy communication that might be passing 1 with other governments, hie answer was, that it would bare been a great bleach of public duty to do so, and a i violation of the numb which was absolutely necessary in Se conduct of our foreign relations. But the right hoe. ypeademan also said that it was through the theses of that house in 1853 the country bad drifted into mem. Re begged leave to say that in his opinion the fat homs, which the house had shown in 1853 had very much ' imeseased the chances of the preservation of peace, sad test se far from the house basing anything with which to reproach itself on that score, his cotyledon was that any imprudent interference of theirs would very much have precipitated hostilities. What was the present state of thins ? It was laid as a charge against the government that they pursued negotiations at the same court which had been their scene in 1853, when they were unavailing. Why, meld it net have been an equal reproach to the govera. meat U, while so great • power as Austria war with them is *aloe, and disposed to give its assistance in bringing &beat an accommodation, they had refused such assistance, sad raid to Austria," We will have nothing to do with you, de as you please." He maintained, on the contrary, that the ' government would have had much to reproach thiamine with had they declined the moistens of Austell'. He MOW aniesstaad how they might have been to blame had they relied solely on negotiations, or, if Meting to the friendly intervention of Auer ia,they had neglected those other mesas by which the war was likely to be carried to a nocessfel Membation ; but much a line of conduct could not be laid to dark charge. (Hear, hear.) They bad availed themselves of the good offices of Austria, hat they had not relaxed for OM memo% in those warlike steps which would have been memory were no negotiation going ca. (Hear.) Therefore, while on the one hand they had not shut the door against negotiation, on the other they bad prosecuted the war as if no negotiations were pendia/. (Cheers.) The right hem. gentleman then said that the reason why be thought it asesmary to call for the opinion of this house before what Weak the unusually keg vacation, being two days longer than usual—the reason he alleged was his apprehensioe that during the eventful week the country might find Half Waal up through the misconduct of the government in • iheatiess and igameistious poem Now (continued the MI6 Med. mispeaking with meek animation), I eat as wee >N bewee sad the right hos. gentleman that so long ea the panes who are now charged with the affairs of this country shalentain in the trust now reposed in them, the bow need feel no alarm, sad the weary seed feel se alarm, that say rues shall be made, not ltheurable to this country, whisk shall net be safe for the fatale, sad which shall not sesomplish all the *sets for which we undertook the war. (Loud cheers from betk aides of the house.) It is not from the persons who sit se this bench that ignominious terms of pesos will pro moted, and I mast there is an mum in this country, however homey wish for poses—as every reasonable man wash—l trod than is use man who calls himself as Nagibines-- ao man whom this nation meld not thrust fee* as ab linded outcast—who would give his name and melbas to sash a peace as the right ' . gentleman bee falisserl. (Loud and general an THE DIPLOMATIC SERVICE. Mr. WISE rose to mom, " that it is the °plaice of this home that the maples) »Mlles of oar diploma* este bilehments, recommended is the report of the same mei mitts" of 18.50 en official salaries, should be carried tato 'sleet:" end proceeded to show, hem the report of the maimittee, the great inegaberitas sad masses of oar pre emit diplomatic system. Paris, be said, soot 100001. a mar , wide an immense total slam the pesos for »peke ; Ira mat of the Turkish *story was enormous. Haw*/ reed' MOM figures is roof of this snertion, the bosoureble member peeing to the maim missisms. If we had a minister at }Molder, (which Nepalese said was the window from whisk you amid look out apes the while of Ommeay), WOW at Berl* sad asether et Thom it would none usury pawn. TM ammitese oho seeenneedsd that the Weise at Masses amid be WWI whit see et the other Della* simian ; lad. he ble owe part, be thseght the prissiple of dmalisisatisa la row punt to may of these smell mhelses might be ansil spas with advantage both is rrmsi to mossy sad the sMtlwt ono et the esnia. lta~ usesonosedatire was that es salary should snag 1,11111. a yen This was a :L illi t i e l litsh it would eel pethap be will to press at the pgeeeSseawMt nameet in regard to the 'wheels. at Paris sad bat which be trusted the Ineraneat would ens theine est loss sight of, ening impetuses at den Mho this et an*. the venni menet et oseacesay that was earminiat with Wang Ws all the peWis paslntelL (Hear, ben) Blase 1640 se lon than throe sillies bed bas 'speeded apes diploma* senten, and la sad sousular sonless as ISIS thee 11,067001. 1 l will ls• Us a °orioles inquiry whether resileat asabanadess as a rale tended more to pasify or to 'sabre matina— erketber Is prawn or to ecstasy aatfoiellty. Ws low- ever OS we hod ammonia object. mid intenadonal treaties snidest ambeindon is cereals cues would somesee to he neesesery. Diplomacy was nothing better rhea a system of moderately espinage. Whitish &seethed it as honourable s 0 dos, and Mayers slid that the feaction of as embeandor wee to nest. flesh we. what diplomsey bad bun deseribet bleteeisaily, and if lb* none proceedings at Vienna were to be ekes es a test of the present diplomacy of some Erre pennants, he would say it 'mid be far better to put en MI le the when system at one. Referee to sent dipio- Mays a teem ens misapplied, his own opinion was that the imalay wee kept tee mach ia the dark with regard to 'lllOssialis Wormillbsi. He believed if the nation bed ben ernes elf the paper written in lent, which had been for so teeny Marne stewed away in the pigeon-holes of the Foreign. 41 0 1, is nestames to the designs et Russia agent Turkey, titter the War would have been averted, or we Amid have hiss hotter prepared fee it whoa it cams upon us. He ask Wei that hon can should be taken as to the qualifications Si the menthes Si the diplomatic service—that no penes shield be igmbeed attNbe to any embassy or any other deldentele pert Menai • previous examination, and that M emb sepsialmet einald have a salary attached to it. TM Mesa if appebtey mend attachés, sad the slow rate et memelea I. this Mani of the publie service, prevented any but very rich men or the ems et very rich men from joining it. He else isomplahmed that the only reads to pro- Mem in this senile were politest oe personal interests, and that in sonesquence it often happened that men Miran expensed* end ability were passed over to make room Re mss who knew nothing whatever of diplomacy tied ite nenirements. Mr. Addington, who was fox soots peers In the diplomatic service, and afterwards was under enretsey of the foreign department, aid in his evidence ea the ao4salt of promotion in the civil list—" I fear that tbe terameey of favouritism, vulgarly termed jobbing, is in herent In every system of government ; that members of pritlemeet will s& favours, and that ministers feel obliged to unmade to their requests, led often in this way appoint panne to pines for which they are wholly unfitted." The goverment had in the army, navy, church, and the edonial serves, re less than 60,000 planes to give away, and it would be say with these to satisfy claims of this description which meld not refuse, but he thought the selnuons for the di service should be from the cream of the midi. dates. It might be advisable if the young men in the Fenige Mice were secourspd to cultivate languages, and acquire that knowledge widen would fit them for this higher branch of the public service. In Frames and Germany, groat care was taken that persons appointed to the diplo mastic service were properly qualified, and in Germany, be fore my pence's name was placed upon the list of candidates, he had to pass a very strict examination in languages, political soonomy, international law, and other bronchia of study ; and he thought it might be advisabie to establish such a system in this country. In conclusion, he said that the country were most anxious for investigation upon this question, and expressed a hope that, as we were to have a new Dawning-street, the old defective system would disap pear with the dilapidated and inconvenient offices. Mr. EWART seconded the motion, and called attention to the importance of establishing an educational test for candidates for this branch of the public service. He was sorry to say that at present our diplomatic service was in ferior to those of other European governmeats, and even of that of America. He complained that the admission to this service was ton exclusive, and that the good things connected with it were confined too much to the aristocracy. K. urged that great care ought to be ozonised, seeing the imported duties they had to perform, in selecting persons for consular duties; and that a praperatory examination should be required. In no ease ought traders to be air pentad to trusular offices; and he observed that neither Francs nor America would permit their consuls to true. He regretted to say that our consuls in the East—where our exports now amounted to eight millions a year—did not reflect that credit epos the country which we ought t sex-pect. The nforms necessary in the diplomatic and conr establishments were simple and easy, and be assured the Prime Minster, if he would take the subject in hand, be would receive the thanks of parliament and of the country. Lord PALMERSTON concurred with his hon. friend who had just sat down as to tee great importance of the diplomatic service, observing, that upon the manner in which that service was performed, frequently depended not only the commercial interests of the enemy, but the ques- tion of peace or war. He, however, must deny that the quotidian made by the hon. gentleman who had brought forward the motion as to diplomatists being honourable spies, whoee busiens it was to cheat and deceive, and whose want of veracity was proverbial, were appli cable to the diplomatists of the present day. In those days of newspaper expresses any government would throw away its money who employed it in paying spies. So far as this country is concerned, when every whims of the Timm was repeated by electric telegraph in S:. Peters burg within twelve hours after it appeared here, the em ployment of spies was surely unnecessary. (" Hear," and a laugh.) With regard to the consular tonics he had no lea • onto suppose that our consuls were interior in intelligence or capacity to perform their duties to those of any other power. He had had the honour of presiding at the Foreign edieto for many years, and his attention had been directed as a matter of course to the consular establishment. Much of his time had Mee occupied in reading the despatches of our amulet agents, and sending despatches to them, and he was bound, in justice to a most meritorious body of public semen% to say that so far from believing them to be less efficient than the consuls of any other elmstry, be believed they were fully equal to the aroma b of any other nation in the world. (Hear.) With respect to the consulship. in the East, the hone nut be perfectly . !ware that there were some peculiar = Mations requisite in persons who filled those sites. Amongst other things, they must pawns a cos peen knowledge of the habits, customs, and lupus of teseenntries in which they lived; and therefore it was not awry sea that was fit to be appointed consul in the East. It led km his (the noble lord's) anxious desire, whenever weemeMe occurred, to choose persons who prosessed the pessike qualifications to wbich he had referred, and be had semen to think that those he appointed bad fallen abort of the estimate he had formed of their capacity. He could , eves mention on or two cases in which they had shown I Menissives peculiarly qualified to perform the very arduous' emlbeportant duties imposed upon them, but he would' l Nihon toms doiog esi because to mention the names of noel reddens' to imply that the rest were sot so meriterionml Me begmarable friend stated that complaints had bees mob Si eircumstances that were discreditable to the goversment. He (in noble lord) could only my in reply, that he did not know whet it was to which his bon. friend referred. If any count were accused, or were sup • posed to have been guilty of lay conduct unbecoming his , elboalloo, he was ears the Secretary of State would teel itl In duty immediately to give the cue his most anxious and I attentive consideration, and to see that justice was done. As far as his (the noble viscount's) knowledge extended, be bad no region to suppose that any of our consuls bad per formed their duties in any other manner than with meat advantage to the country, and with great satisfaction to the British subjects within their jurisdiction. He was not aware, ther efore, that say improvement could be introduced I into our consula r system. With respect to our diplomatic anamgemesta, it was perfectly tine that all the rentemen , dation of the committee of 1650 bad not been carried into effect; but his hoe. friend (Mr. Wise) had admitted that Iseveral of them bad been acted upon. For instance, the salaries Mon ambassadors at Paris and Constantinople, of lour ninieter at Vienna, and of several others of our diplo• s ty agents abroad , been reduced. It was pat ently tree that the committee had recommended that yaim Mend nosed 6,001. ; and that recommendation d lowelobly bon carried into effect, except ia the case of me ealebeees et Paris, Vienna, and Constantinople. The has, member, however, had incidentally mentioned a cle anliness erten showed that in some case salaries *need y the mann fixed by the committees nest be essential ft maim free mii.isten toen in • manner creditable to Ile belaier sad dignity of t country. The hen. gentleman mid that an unpaid attache could net live in a foreign town ogees his family wen prepared to give him 6001. a year. Iwo if a young man ',Mon a hens or family, end who ern met required to keep up any establishment, could not Wel is a Meeks town on less than 6001., he would ask the Ms. gamlimas to mews by that sans what the expensesof en malessable must be, who had to mantels a house and a eerily, mid who het to keep up the appearance, ussessery foe a 4 .= in h . of Ibis country ? If g the lessenehis would do that, he would gad dist lbo Waft Si oar diplomatic agents wen on Awn who the osunity of the cue required. This bon geollsmes fern sanitled that there were political at k rawiaing a Widow of the rank of amber emiler s t a t i rmis red Onsistelbespia There were, in point of fun plotless' Si soon to Om sovereign, and other privi leges ormineted With She enbenettortal rank, which it was nimble for Um pubis service should be possessed by our =at the come el Frame and Turkey ; and those wen ay pines is whin we maintained es ambassador. The ben gateman said that Ruda had abolished diplo mats gasses of that rank altogether. That was perfectly tun bet In* had dome so solely in consequence of • dMiemelle dispute, and not frees any economical motives. On ON , he would undertake to say that the minis terial Ems* rn many warts received much higher salaries thou wen gives to tie diplomatic agents of this country, ever although they held the higher rank of ambassador. Wilk rapes te sus embassies at Paris and Constantinople, it was sodembledly true that a considerable sum had been expended es tke purchase in the one case, and on the con sents& In the other, of the official residenen. At the ✓ims time, anybody who had boon to Paris mast know that then was a great advantage to the public service in the re. pesseetatin of this country having a suitable residence in this city. He (es noble lord) did not believe that there meld be any real economy in disposing of the ambassador's hew and hires any suitable residence for him. It was ON tsar that the ma of building the house at Canned ewe awl imacik/ awrawled the minute. TM explanation ghen fee that dramataaas was that the expense of bringing maternis sad *find labour from a diatoms had been more Utast bad bees salisipated. He (Lord Palmmetco) did not tbiak Me that explanation was altogether so satisfactory es its.** have been; but the penmen lad had no lower to prevent that largs orproditue. me hoses was deer sU seiner so ge our so bestimme these as provided he the gibbons of lar Frames, lea* aid /eerie. Every body knew, moreover, that OCOlllathlerill was not a place In whisk born send be hired g red as we had had the siefortune to have the es honed honed gnu ones, and to bon it cm fire a emend time, label beta thought necessary is its osommestleo of a meet substootial character. With 'upset, them, to Use obningeme of the bon. gentle an with regard to maladie s Wanner was, first, that then may nomained two wilt* when they were above 6,0001. ; that tke interests of the swain were best served by 'main *along at tblee *UM a Wainer with the rook of ea am. the a lord the 4 gts tyP• b*.".: then, any. bete the sent a 3. 4. E "3' ing,