The Express. — London, England, 1850-03-26 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—MOND...i t KA= 25. The hums met at 4 *Week. ROYAL ASSUIT. TM royal mood war ;lea by aZWitaitoo to tbo reartviss Ira : Too Malloy Bill ; tbo Mario katlay 11111; tbo Zglr teat Motropoittaa Pablo Cawley,* ; the Owed laird Toad Hill ; sad she Turspeke heeds end Bridge Trusts prelate) 13,11. TM Lords Conical/errs moo Lord Laegdale, the Zerl 411 Carlin* and Lewd liAdiabary PITMONS TRIMMED. AOILICOLTVIINL Vissowst RIREVORD, Soh a plot* aM herd. hoophihog of ogritaltorst Arras lIVIIDAT LANNON IN PONT-07,111111.—8y the Iforl of 10D1121. Inn Dobbs, swish lhaday taboos h pew _ 111;imuoile Btu. —By the lad of of MOUNTC/11=2 bon prfaby tertaa weasels" W mirth maims* the llseviars MASTERS' JURISDICTION llt RQUITY BILL. Lod BROUGHAM prostatsd a petition from aso Rquity COMlDidell of thre Moyer Una Law IMIMM•4011. The ra ndom'', although they wen only a asamitts• I. fairlysaid to represent the opinion and swatimei is of at least 1,000 of the most eminent sondem In this town. (Hear, lest) The petitioners stated that although nrioss reforms had born latradated lutes other everts, little or no isproretairat lad been effected In the proseedinp et the Court of Chesney. li* mild hardly agree with them tes this extent, booms@ be knew that amp no's' Emden had been made by the heads of that court, improving its prow ties ; and although farther new mien were now in preicgg yet there wort soma subjects of showery j which cold ealy be smeadod by as ant of parliament, sad not by any general orders. At the most Use no lessen fee 601. or 100&. would ever think of Wing • bill to newer his legacy, bosun the exposes would he so esermous. If he did so, be might almost brim himse lf under another ' Drank of th e jurisdiction, exertion the Lord Chancellor, sad be considsrolt alumna Thorn' mon that their lordships would sow sin their IMIM OS M too MU whisk Is had intrnlared cm this sinjost, sad the second ming el which he would pressed to mon. Ho seasidi red the quo ins is an open gm for be did ant win N pledge We h"ust to at details of at measure. His object was to have it read de brae seas, as it were, so that their lordships might now' their approval of the principle, and the whole sub ject noht be folly diseased and sonsidered by the Foresaw during the MOMS' BUM mecca. This was the reams why he mond W soma reoling of the bill in the obsess* sills noble sad learned friend who usually oerapied the woolsack. In presomian **peados I. had briefly minded to ono of this evils sonnected with the ansinistratios of jades in as Coast of Chanorry, namely, the difficulty of obtainiag the payment of legacies by legatees. To illustrat e this print its would only speak, on the present occasion, of sans of admit nistrsdon snits whin were not c steeled, and Is which then was no doubt, no difficulty whatever. For the remedy which his proposed to apply be did not take the least credit to himself, for it was owing to a moot happy act of the legislature posed a year or two ago which had been found to work most admirably is prat deli ; and it was a near relative of his own, vie of the maven in Chancery (Mr. Wm. Brougham), who had cos 'rived the idea of anpij ing the machinery of that bill to all ores of administration suits. The nun object proposed by the bill was to commence anoint administration suits, when there was no dispute, in the master's elfin. To wan an immediate notice to all parties interested, • public advertise ment by the master announcing that be had eonumnold the administration would be made, and an immediste and cheap appeal to the court if any party should be diasatialled—to induce soliciten to get through their work rapidly sad without the expense of conies by pa) log nos fee for the whole—in lot, to adopt the machinery establish( d under the Win 'ing-up Act. Hu lordship west on to state ' - sours oasts of mat intolerable prewar, and injustice, of enormous ex pense and mien, to parties, and of seek abuse In the court, which seemed so creel and so enormous, and yet no one was to blame, soldier the court, at moan, aer this pne•itiourn, bat the law alone." The Master bat proposed most wisely that a reasonable sum should be paid the attorney tor oondurtiog the banners, scoordiog to the difficulty of the cue and the skill he had displayed. This prin. apt* ?ad been moat advantageously adopted in certain lOW, and the object of this bill was to extent it. It had been said that a person who addicted himself to oat pursuit, as at amendment of the law, wes too apt to incline to his own particular views ; but the proposal now made was not • sae ✓oan of his owls, but one which he had adopted iron • Motive who had had long experience in 'these natters. It was merely an extension of a principle already is . How much might be done by orders of court, sad In what respects • bill would be necessary, might be easily son lined la the considerable interval, five or six woes, width he proposed should elapse beton proceeding say further in this matter. Though a more fordable body of Mia than the salirrors sad attorneys did not exist, now and then black sheep were found aglow then; and when the Muter sionly perceiver* that but for the Money the litigation ought to ban been at en sad long ago, then was now no remed for this evil. His proposed to s t n to the sent that w salutary, and neemsary pawn, of throwing the bards; of soots which ought cover to hare been Incurred apes the wrog-th or, by whose malpractices they had Iran awn& Daring the interval whisk he proposal should elapse, In shall be pled to naive such 'emotions from the pd. doom and ashen, as they might think desirable to caw. He would now more the snood reading of the bill. LIM LANODALI said he should Imeant to the mond tell g. with the asdesetsedieg that the boll should mead sea tee eemidesatios. Ho eatteelp seasened with his noble as/ leaned Wind, as to the security of some alteration ia the pruteedings in the Court of Chummy. any ishiettima which he eaterisioed is the bill 'sight be made at a sabatquaat vow ; with tile prieelple b partessly eirsett—t • neemeity el Imseriimg the delay I. pump into tie sweets Wise, and of sedating the menses there Iseursed. (Bear.) Regarding the maia object of the bill sa that of rensonng daisy and deeressiap She 'sok:iced that his sable and learned Wad had lit it forward. With this panel approval. ha walla howl eateries into the dessile. Lord HAOQQBAII exprested kis satisfied's at the mane takes by bis aeble sad loused Mead, aM said be .Mal! lave greet glossae i• riesiviag say sealiptioas trim Wa lbe bill ass thee read a wend dam. Lard BROUGHAM would add, to what Its had amid shoat usta, that cliaats is a may eras had only thmatlyea to blast*. TOfy * y threw dialualvaa law the haada of a solietiv, without alettatias that ottateaus width thay *visaed wands shear truisms.. (efts, bast.) . , Lord LAN ODALII feared tbie red mould ealy be reme died by a ligal mbseaties beiars men paerally diffused. THE DEVORPOHT DOCKYARD. Ti. zedof OsttlAll6 ZWeti7. «TraZ;tunis nu- tim to rho works maw is regrow la Drammen dockyard, but witbdrew kis sodas et Os omproatioa M the Mutat' of LIIIIDOWWI, vb stated *at the Admiralty bad Waved *a matter to aorta* prefsseissal (*atlases, whose report MS sot yet Is.. semi ia. ADJOURNMENT OP THE HOUSE. TINI Marquis of LANSDOWNE t►s. soviid that t►i boiath do now scijosirs to T►ursdy, tho April. T►o thorium was synod to, and t►ob lordships adjoususd thoordlosly. ROMS OF COMMONS.-MON DAT, Miicz 25. The Dreams' WA the chair at the usual boor. RAILWAY PREFERENCE SHARES. Mr. LA BOUCHER'S moved the folicwisto resolutiso : " That I. a very railway bill, by which it is proposed to authorise the compsay to grant my Infernos or priority es the mama et Munn, or divides& as say shun of mask, there be inserted a ensues that 'hotfooting of each pretense' or priority aot sr allot any prefer- nee or priority of unmet or whibohell have bees granted ty the eammay, by or Is permorms d soy previous sot, sal; ss the enamitteet on the b ,hall re port that such provisioo ought an be ro aired with tin rousse so whist' bar opislan Z found • d ; that ao railway sempany shall be anthosteal to alter the terms of soy refensee er priority of Wrest or dividend which shell kayo boos posted by sob enspeay loader say previous est, sales the mmomittos es tike ripen that such attends. ossltt allowed, with the mamas ea which thole 'gbh& b . Mr. COWAN semodol Oho modem. The And of the bill which be had MIMI 11110 ober sight wee moody that die Werra of 'he ehersboilemeheold be ormeolMased, C Aosta BIBTRORP hoped that the dibt his. pestisman would introits." emodoottoodotiom a t m ponmat ruiwsy irame pones from raising bob asso ad Mr. LABOUCHRRI odd that tha wings matte, had bees referred to the raw, makatiodamen. Mr. GLADSTONE boa se olgernics to dm spirit of the dame, bat it was a ma nn arrest import's's that On ear minim of the boom to whom those railway sal:Mete were referred should be tilted by soma general iardostion of the views of the home. _ — Mr. LABOUCHERE said in was ready to take WM Ms bow mauler .tifs say sursties °mini boat so Id* sal authority as (be slain boa geatienas. Bat Ids Bat IMMO nos was, that /motion ianind sash a veleby ei Wanes, that it wasa bs Moult, If met In lbs been to lay down say goassal or invariable rule w raped - Lad H. VAN& emeareal M th ei =ey el MAE. a panel Me Mr the gekkase of The rosolattoes wove rhea agreed M. Mr. LAW UCHIRM mid that it was deelealielhat them Melatiot.s.bka.d be applied to Ibmblirealdt hal already pared through oesmittee, ea& he eletalitMadint taws that the Meth Failure Balmy BM ma Oilman ea& Ovelltea BM &weld to mosinittei. for the peoples et labs treaght seder the resolotieee Net peered. (Mem) TM maim was speed to. PUBLIC BUSINIEM. PETITIONS PILESZETZD. Troina.—By Mo. COBDIN, ham Mihail. Moat, for a moddiaaase of the Mho law. taxa, is KNOWLIDOI.—By Mr. F. O'COlfilt_hois leaky, ia Mallardabboo, agalast w tams aa Martoaal. Uwe Ossoramt.—By Mr. F. REMW:Iit, hawk Seeks, pro tat haw ata Si Mtwara with ea Load Cow posy, al tie padissan had veer. wallideass I. Mr. O'Coanor than ia but Malasq's Wahiawa from Paaismonnolaao °ATM.-14 Biz J. GRAMAN. from two pan or porliuneat, tie Ruh of &Wart sad Claw, tarty, awaplaanag that they were monad Mat Widow that warn is ta,. Use. of Loads la mowetuasse of caw l aslasibm samples wish regard w tat oath if saprimasy the to of whisk they regettieh • imeamittees with the aloaaidole messiahs w aoshodesdaal Mbar thaw aris sit thi srmeiga Is oho AM tf Obowilalli• watt to on* porood be Wood ; obey, tbriniaro, prayed that tit, term of tbo molebt be toood phis sad ussablitoomo. W they Mt *Mt they Imo mare amidst *a relief la that maw as %be oath et surearksy led loom altonollia favour of Wit ostbollo Soilewesuslu.ai s l • INMOST Loo.oas.—lly pllpoliwN. t a II:ROC ibld. =b. relay slam le sod l st• Too ; a from =so Looosobbo. obi Kr N. fedS As Mo. dodo looMb lltaloof knee= Whir , Bps. mot ri ; Xr. AGILIONBT boIo , from is of Kr. =anew, of Itoobaolo ; Lad LA! ott i = =tar ; Lore ARUNDEL sod (3), boo ; oat Mr. 701 boa boombkoo,bo tie moo sad. h_ THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 26, 1850. lisw witrr. Oa the trotisa of htr. ftlYNta,a mew welt wee ordered he the etudes et a .saber tee Tetsuo la the teem of Lord :r, who had eareyeed Ole Aka of Tiro Oerenheiraer e% mad Feraste. ROYAL COMMISSION. Ptrtatarr, the TIMMS UAW of the Meek Rod, =at the table, as/ eusateard the hoses to the Peen, to hear the re* eereat Ores b eseanie• riga M artlitia bins (ter whisk eel Leeds' repot.) COURT OF CRAI4CIRT. - - Mr. POUTER= isms maks *Mho ,odd, Os an surly day aim Naar"pas a quails 1, totosilwo of 6 =7% govessmest, othoftr R was *dr bosallso to skim hie Ms Court of Monty 11. sug=o: . aot; sash dollar mitten es rossomomlsd hylbe AUSTRALIAN COLONIRS 00TRINKRIET BILL. Sir W. MOLYBWORTR wished to haw his' the male lard st the head of low Idalestys severaneat if It wss kL Wood= to Ss as early de after Easter fa the farther essilesoilho of the • Carlos sill, as It woo kis (Sir W. Ildosworth's) 'steads& Is mew that the legislatles assuably fsr that Worthy should onsist of two Isms& Lord J. RUSSELL was riadowased to say that so day had bees fiaird alter Raster far the bill; sad that the emoted of its farther soosiderstioa should depend re the proem of other busker. THE BRITISH MUSEtill. Oa tie sedan of Sir R. PRIX, cliri smug totem et Os ➢rido4 M... wen ordered. THE BRICE. DUTY. Lord R. GROSVENOR said he had a welkin to pat to the right his. gentleman, the Charade, of the Eze. gear, in televises to the dry se bras. He wished to row fee the wished= el the pinks and brisk seanufaa tarns Is purl, whether it was the Marion of her Ma jrty's alarm to allow say drawback, as she the pried at whisk the treat of the ler ea the artier world ors into spender. (H-er. ben. The CHANCELLOR of EXCHEQUER, it inl). said that r gnat boner m Moir the anbjest, he theetht it would be et isperasealetkeleMis wen he te state his intestines. (Hear. heir.) sopa se the drawback, he should ley ho had sessideset tall indgest absiessiy, sad had received some depetatiose es U. Ma bed eadesnand to sassetala the prairies i.of the gerstarest r. tegereses to a drawback es the repeal ef tare. sad be ford that esly in two cars a drawback was ailere& ilewever, generally speaking, the user premise twos set to allow a drawback, sad in nose wee a lull drawback allowed; thenion, the brick makers would sot be prejudieed to the full esteem of the reduced pries of brier paying so duty. They were generally told that the serenest against excise dudes was not the arras of the duty, bat the Interference of the emigrant. A deputation that had waited on him urged the worry of hie 'Vowing to the Ist of June, so that • tall opportunity should be rioter aganatactenft karst stocks so head to clear thean off end dispose of them, rid then to in a drawback for the serer that rentaised on head. Is court ring the matter he (the Chem cello, of the Exchequer) thought the extrudes of time wee meet undesirable, braise is the *Mein there would be se a toossequenee great etagastios of trade, sot aline agreget the bra samarium's sad bricklayer*, but also aroaget the earners and others gessested with the build is f (Hear, heir.) He thenfore thought It beds: to rake some allergies, and $n de what he meant at arm, se that the p. 1.1.. Wed be free stbeetnadly to take their own erne. (Hear, bear.) He proposed then to allow a drawback of 60 per rot es all star os head—(hear, baer)—whilst on bras martsa turn bereforetard, be proposed the repeal of the duty abort be immediate; in prat of fast, he proposed to take so more duty from the amide. (Hear, hoer.) He had reverted with grey pads who had nerdy built houses, with taxed briar, sail who wen earns to obtain • cassi &rare, alleging that those who would build la fetus. would have ea eras advantage over thega—(lstighter) hat he Seared he had net power to Mini them. rLastlitee.) Now, as restarted corrects betwess those whet attest es duty paid bricks before the arousesseett of any alteration is to. duty waa made, Its should an be would be prepared to make war drawbacks se the juries of the esse degraded. (Hear, bear.) Lord DU CAN betted to ask the right hem pathless if he would ban say objectless to turn the wires duty to the same retest as the brick duty. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that is his nitre the; remission of the tax is bricks will far mote importaat and seeteL Mr. BRIGHT did sot sadontand the right hos. pails man to Lave said eaythiae if a drawback in die cases of partite who had bricks as band for build*/ purposes, par cthehaseddry. (Laughter. ) previously to the samennerneat el the resehnes The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER briefly replied, bat was inaudible la the gallery. ADULTERATION OF COFFEE. Mr. cepTivilit:.liiits Vso;irlii — ei. right bon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Isebeepwr if it was Ms ia tuition to penes in the present ea sion of parliament, my rode dias is the duty of coffee, se at present it was othaV termed to an inierieue extent with chicory. The CHANCELLOR et Ike BICHRQUEIt implied, it was set his iattatioa to propose say redaetios is the duty of that ankle. THE LABOUR RATE (IRELAND) ACT. Mr. MAUNBELL "risked to kilo. if it was the istesties ofler Majesty's govesseat to take soy sops is shoes paifteakte the payment olf sires do trader the Labour Este • Jiat. •d whisk woald be is mores ef waged= in hie legate la one moth atto the bolding of the assns. Tire CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wee under stood to say that it was the Sumas of her Majesty's mien ters to mode • farther moped= of payment for the west. BRIDGEWATER HOUSE. Lord DUNCAN begged to sal the *deaths et the flesenry to the Treasury to tb. Met of aa eserreeassat whisk bad skim plasm is the Hese Park by the erosion of as embealsesse, as aim of • hew, widish he diesels gain ineossistest and out el woos The wean be had to ea the has. geademos was this—whether the erections were issessistest sr out with the foss of Inose , sad also what mote, if aoy. bad bees takes to remove them ? Mr. C. L USHINOTON begged to may be wee oily pm vested from brioplag eke mos Seward berme it wee ia the bode of his noble Mimed. Mr. HATTER, Is reply, aid a esonmesissdos bad takes plasm bowers the astaitim of the Weeds sad revues sad Mr. Bang, the smallest ist the house of parderaist, is redress' to the metier ; kit am yet so report bad bees mode to bet Majesty's Commiskseve of Weeds and Noma However, he should imp Oak Ole% net osly had the bold ise sot bees psssseded wilt—he referred I. the embank. sent—bet • pest pert of it bad bees takes dews. (ilser, bear.) Thor* NNW in se geodes whstearZipeo seeded wi mold be • giest deedless% to ao aad to the eee et his hes. knoll (M La r. ) is pardouler. (He se, hew.) It so mow Gould be V aa l whisk Ike striae's% povisioss of the Imes could be its k wield be *blotto" ea bar Majesty's Comiesaleseis 'et Was sod Perms to interfere, sad have the INIMPOSIM =Mb samoved. PUBLIC SALARIES. la reply toe conies frees Ceinial liternpar, Lord JORN BUBBBLL said that Laird had souped the dike of Cosamississer of Weds rarest@ as the obey et 2,0001. a par, the salary white had bean no. solved by his peedessesor. Hs (lord Js Russil) thee pee =We that it was his istestion after Seder re wee for a seleut oinswide to Pepin tall the Weeds setashisp to ads= hell Lti min si t . sespeollessut. es else to Pipe of the Usitsd sad epodes et the diplewitis este blidistant. (" ear, beer," wed Pew) NATIONAL GALLERY. it,. 'WART Praised if it Pe the ineseiles et bee Malatya peewees* to plane the sellsellen et rid's left by the lets lir. Vows is say pales of the builds. add the MOW Gallery ? Ala% winder bar Majesty's goesmosat adhered to de detsedisation wide by the sweidery to the TPINIONEy OIL ledge Nee) to the twee is Ow year WA that the peat of - tbs National Gamy sew =by de loyal Molloy wee only to be retaised by yas M. as it was set required for the plonks of the wises wileaties et woks of art ? (Hear, hear.) Lied S. BIUBBELL IIIII•14 awe is reply that there were orreppeente is senomplation, whisk, wade at prosat leas le loped they weld be able to wry into e ff ete. The of bur lidestre goverwasso were that the Niguel Gallery geoid be devoted to the collieries of satimod weds el art, daddies de Venom celleetioe, and sod edges as night be be epouded the exesetry. • Tlie bone was &soden were Is i s t de Majesty Meg amp 111. had gips ape:tow Somerset New beds needere of the Royal Asadesty, all WI on. ford Peden pririLr s es thaw, for the popes of areetimp anilltaisdag a of raison mad emalpters, Britid artists. 1$ wee essweepandp nee only dee to the Boyd Aemiew, Pt der fie ammeney, that they should have the wens of aaislele that sae& Therefore while the deep* to ask de Asadertite site up C lis = it the bwilft they at peens* 'espied, it was handed •• Wien • Ifilis Alf the popes of asablieg doe to ad a Wed& Waft fee theft pompon elsewhere. It was hie istmtlea__lplog mistthe maid to istmeose a bpi f o r *wp m egimeeepp. wild had rowed to the crows is esomppenes of the &WM of the Qom Dowager, pea de PIING el Wales, sad her Major, bed gradoesly spelled ha pow to allow that beadle be were few years Maws bap devoted to the resepties of the Vows Gallery of Palmieri, sad sod other wads of art that night be bequeathed to the epatty, sad throws pea to the Fide far oddities. (Hear, hear) TER " BLIZABITII HASTINGS" VlifiNik it,. CAILDWIILL to all the attendees of the right hon. patina's the Pr set of the Board of Tole to cer tain •by his a Ave nights slim, refereoce to th s e t l i •=rt wad, whisk had lately left wwilr My wade ostasess, aad Wilke lit•tell•Id• (Ms. Cardwell) lad eirem saitequestly ascertained to 1p 'eldest ,dadatiou. a. lid »wived iatellitor to bola a °cameral& how la Liverpool, *at the Tema to tem' lo 111 •4 bum almost 'wrote, sad essrlod oat of lik• rut se Lkwirel, trail *ea is bad sot sespisist ha sail bass with tb ati'pette of ..Mesa. Re TEN LAND BCIMIIIN. Is nay to a quaint hou Mr. Hmosam, Mr,. IP. O'CONNOR smal los mai me Mama a tlio masa opyortmaity atm BasPeß to bens L a MI 4U Rs so den' load sawn. Mr. RINLET—WiII it be a private or pail's hill t (Lubtairr.) Kr. P. O'CONNOR said that would entirely dermal es the advise he wield reseive, es hs was is asionaseaskis with one el the ablest lawyers is the on the mar. However, he would be very glad to have eisieleass Mr. Rooky also. (Laughter.) JUDICIAL SALARIES. Kr. CHRISTOPHER wished to hew Nit wee the fatiatisa et the alibis lewd at the load of the goverament et the penm j ud ges , l the sessenre kir the redostica 40 the salaries er was kids lotentisa to rder It M the eon. adage Lord J. RUSSELL said it would be aseersary Os go en with the boll, as Lard Dennea had bees ressivise SPOOL a ymr M. the. hisindeereser. Mr.CRRISTOPRIR iequiredlfthe iseareittee whisk hie lordship had steadied his istiation of movise tsr Lau Wake would have the power to suggest ridsetteas Lord J. RUSSILL—Tio • they will be sedvalied to reeenesend any rednetkas ;hey iney think it. (Rear, hear.) (COAL PIT EXPLOSION. ' Mr. WILD *aired if soy essinuesima bad bean istiti. toad to %quire sod report as the late esel-pit =pinkie, by wbkh 1p lives bad bola lest -- Sir (16151 Y said no etefal ropromaloiks Isal boa sada to Wm a dis sablost. CRIMINAL STATISTICS. • ----- - - - - - Mr. OTANFtsiii;ibe — itrieli;;;;;TWltstber Mires. Uses Se the datialcal dspartmsat of tbe Hoag of 'nude might set I. eves se as le issue more eomphes srlatial return kr time Veiled i Mr. LAnotromissWt. whole quietism wee wide: scesidsimase, sad Its bed ae doubt that issue iseprovemoot would be Ads& _ _ OF DANIIM Mr. COW Mead to pat • quietism to the soils kid &A the hmd et the gethemeat. Neiotbttea. had, he b.. Med. km elided ea talk the Daaie6 Immanent respect fog the punk= of forbad the oeversigats of a large terri nes de Gad Caen is Airing. He wished to eat the sable lerd whether, after do eirreepoedenes had bees laid on the Mk of the bean, there woad be an opportunity of diseefriag en sabeniative notion, .ad met merely in enemies with do Manes, the polies of intending ear territorial menigity is that part of the globe. Lea 1. ItIIIIIIILL MI then hod been a ionessombiath, whisk midi be lad en the table of the koath. With &i -snot to the goverment, all he Goad say was that they Weeded to Garry (ea was sadereteed).t niacin; ingsgmente into West. If die has. gimatkaaa wished to gentles the policy of doing so, it would be tar him to mho • notion with that 'kw. Mr. BOUVERIII wished to 'mew whether a separate sad distinct emetics would be wade with mutt to the Deals\ forts ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER saki the sevareleaty having been ceded with the forts themselves, a rota for t h e purchase of then would be proposed in the esti mates. Mr. COBDEN thought it rather like special pleading to say that the purchase of the forte included the sovorsigaty. He appreheaded that the whole subject was beim the house. (Cries of '• order.") He begged to give Nodes that he would take the ewe of tie Maw on the subetautive ques tion of the policy of making the punkas, at all. (Hear.) DUCHIES OF CORNWALL AND LANCASTER. Mr. Tll,llLAWNirtiesi root, ;Cps's macCO! notice, to move for a Canaille., to inquire to " what errant the public are entitled to claim an interest, present or pospostive, in the tamagsment of the duchies ci Cornwall and Leneaster, with respect to whisk returns are annually made to this home, and, with regard to the Duchy of Cornwall is 'arti cular, to inquire where its assemalatims are invested— who is the heir of personal estate to the Prises of Wales— whether Duchy dues from mime are reserved is Minh or nosey, and whether they am rated to the poor—whether ohms are directly worked by the Duchy sears—what number of claims to estates have been made and not ow raised daring the last six years—whether them is any good mem ter the direct neeptiee of certain kinds of pro. party in the Dashy Act of 1844 (such se ro alike, fran. Mises, and Marisa) from the statutory provision for the quiet of titles ' mow applied to crows property, to private property, and most descriptions of Dually property—and, ,a s hlastlyetkor the smarmed of the Dechy estate dos been factoey as regards the public, fair as regards its , own tenants, it productive of improvement In the state of the rural pepalstion." The hos. member commenced by entering into some details as to tbe legal *apemen of the manegemeat of erowa property. The English solicitors for the crows property were Mem. Pemberton, Crawley, sad Gardiner. Pima 1837 to 1841 the average 'menet of their bib for law and mbar @epees's, net iminding stamps, was about 6,1401. • year; the average from 1842 to 1848 was about 10 0001. a year. The New Forest comprird 103 square miles, or 66,191 acres. The value of this forest Mr. News estimated at 1,629,0001. The insane, ezelosive of minerals, in 1848.9 wee 29,8801., the expeadatere 34,682/. ; the excess of eapeaditare above lame 4,8211. They were told that these duchies were private ' pro perty, and that whilst her llejesty had an • eldest son whiteout had ne • coottel whatever. Li this doctrine he mid not coiner. The time would 0011111 Mu the house would be called upon for a maintenance for the Priam of Wales, and the iaeoms of the Miami of Cornwall and Lancaster would 'materially inflames the mount to be voted. In 1787 the Wag NAM parlimasot for a vote of 161,0001., to defray dates to that amount incurred by the Prince et Wales. In 1796 mast message was seat, new debts having been incurred to tne mount of between 600,0001. and 700,0001., i and Mr. Pitt on agreeing to pay the mousy, took the Cornith revenues as security. Mr. Berke mad up his masterly speech on meanie:al reform by pro pelling a bill to unite the Duchy of Cornwall to the crown. The SOLICITOR GENERAL said that he thought U the house redecteet at all on the oireumstaness which were laid before them by the lea. gentleman the 'member for Tavistook, they would me no greeted whatever for granting this committee of isemby. The chief semis ,ge% which the hem 'endemism made the appeal to the house With two. Ile Ant makes it cm the grimed er mismanagemeat, sad thee on the groomed that the property is used in each a manse, as to Ware the public, sad that several mass of oppression arise out at the mode in which the property is managed. These two grounds were perfectly distinct, and he would d•al with them is a dbtinet meaner. It was clearly mani fest to the hem that they meld have no right whatever to ingaire into tot Raaegeillesd of my property Ulla the Marty beefs pubs Amstar, and that it ma have no right to layette lam of a private oaten. The hoe. manger he T Wog aware of that objection, had eneleamered es asset it. bat his argument wee not sallieleatly semi* donee, the Weeders en which the en le o ler:viostlr med mho am knotty. Now, as to the q ho r ol air megemont, he weal& hell the homes in answer to the heeourable ember tor Tavistock that the salaries sad remuneration of the principal calms engaged In the Seeley fee the six years previous to the messelan of the Closes to the throne asamted to 8,6771. They ware sow 26011. That showed a saving of 8,1771. The &MAIM of solicitor's charges, for the nine yeses previous to 1849, imaged 4,102/. la the year 1849 the law impsness ammated to 271. Se that, ia that matter, there was a saving of 4,0761. Courts were then held, which most NU. 18s., sad for whisk welds( was new paid. There were mane in Cornwall mid Devon Mee Best emouatod to 2061., sad which now cast may 1001. There wee altogether a daemon is the exposer te the ming of 10,11231., while the improvemeat of the woe ma timing. Though the aiseent of sheep= aregidth eide, yet it maid me be Maiden* A whoa they leek Into asthma the hot, list la the &shy they mail gems were to he reeeived hem a large number of mall pleats, whisk readered • pest degree of expense . The Name from the wee. however, prosecute y inereasie In the time ell IV., it lied Nereseed from 9,00 04. to 19,0004 ; riot the birth of the Pekoe of Webs it averaged 92,0001., sad for this year it usesated to ' 29,6671. The expeese of math* mane sees,.( parlipme M the MAW tregskeim of the dash y muted to live/7 Nip ma of sessey, bet that had to be defrayed oat of the deli t 114 is 111 _Meld rat be paid out of the capital the ensue. Meowed to the isheritants, whisk it wed not then die tjey, was new paid oat of the Mem. The ether es whisk the km. member maithethed hie aim •r e emmittee wee that the mists did net nosh, hie trestmat, and that la many mess they hM =in the improvement' of their Neemento, est= to thesis a renewal of their lessee. Beth timid be restaabeethl that that was but as appremies le whisk Negate mead be liable ea my property. Bet. oven if the theater Oho atietesee of melt ',preemies meld Justify the ammthse Me ga is mehe elling_es beaky, any Ma. member eareviag for a th palm eat to them the Imolai NMI la whisk this eppegoden NUM*. Every body who teth asek Mew what he NOW late pernMes that M wee= the ef mei Meg able to renew his lam Mr. BO is supporting the moths of the hoe. redone& the ms.bee he Tavistoek, said that this was • questing of e amble dememer. It wee first a emotion se to the right NI the hems le mks an inquiry, sad thee • qua. tier es te lime ispediemeel making it. NA mainly epig r ing to hear the lamed gegelegiaa who hotpot eiMelosegme say that the hew bed me right to *Nelms to this miter bemuse the import, la gegoidea was private property. Now, U time woe say me mropeety In the coat, eseeentlas whisk they were ANIMA to 'mks' any isepeiry, it wea the ef h e . brew it wee tweetted by ass ef ped limed seder the useammaget ef treatise, who Wilma eppeithed by get of parliament. At mea * the time ef slithiiimeat ef geese Acne's Civil List, it was le th e Meth he she agelatmems of the heareer mid of them onk He mass red that the home math jesdled he emaideries hew the pro w," *nig bees leapremA se to produce as imam WI- Melly large to save the country the additimal ga mma of paean say Nieman to the Plane of Wm, on lie twirler at his mai Rity. g e gosh foe the right of the Nome of Comatose to imeire into the remises of the dusky of Cqrswell. Mews gip memo whisk were mussily laid before petlianeat, of the revenge of the ducky of Cornwall, the t tee of the dusky ' thee eseamaiseted with the Ikeretaty kit roreign Ansa, wqmother lein to Mose the oweeei le the port Is oh& the vowel wee sehl W be Mewl se mho the ..et wary hereiries iete am, loweseelt Matterey: Show thee. boidiwy emeithi mespialitomd tepetoisishmeot the 4Erof the Misname ea width it the ellet tib t: e eased mem to ho tokfa t rogoisah asa i n f i lt a te resell hat hi bed io eity way MY- . saisteMboaally. M alma 6 7 _1,, Erc ad om. Om a matradimies 6o melt ohespowes- was Isiah. he well theo dash paid so test ; it was is lismisisiospee. The "stew wen massed by {noshes, tuder obese of paraded% posted ebe years age, sad tile wares{treiesilled edesplete }ewer of swassidg the rola. It private sit of periled's* ; di a peddle ; • the of w e.. with Bedded be the yof sad own had lois pub& aele relabel to palls pro party, sad lid priests sets Thee peeped, need psealiarly the. paid . fete. peopeed Missed( to the =TN& the paid" was fabbfaidled. to deal with as .vOit refeerisg to the sit of passed to aseertela the duties of the trustees. h. hood a Ahead provides that is the swi Ode eadenshleseessiof the prided meg dad M Meshed d of the Due of Odsaill: "TM wee iii say edited to be hued et the wend mid* of Vide tradoellide. TM portion of dewy Mill for tM sufaufehisedent d eopylield assesotteg to 7,3101., bed bees paid isto de asedarVi l ai bed Mead of the resided's. ? WILt wee the mammas of de digits' eat ? Ia the.. •ese there appeared treas. Boded net dialed by the est of perliaseut under whit* they wen tremested, and whit were a legitimate abject of iagrity. Time wee ends a, la the 'moat el lest year, • payment. of lifll. 134 Id., by the dime ef Idle ea tea, The trustees had bees lading smog est al the ditultesse for the Peden" of a i 5..., the asaignes dud* ws pegiag iderest fet the puddles. That wee setsguspeoe sentese g9a ea t. These wen euedidi that properly an lesesse of SAW per annual was net suiseged is the "sedate sad oereful way in white pri vate peeped would be atanagd. Is eight pen the total asead idelised to the dainty was 314 ,0001. The en peewee d audit, sales, establishers*. "se"a"ted be 71,0001.; law damps nears and isapoognassis ; Raking aa MIMS 01;03,0001. As to the Dishy al Cascade:, the mesas edemas laid belie perilsomest was sae extroor dietary and mostisiadery that tee adement ef tbe revenueel of the Dishy of Oordiall. It was 70 yetis SWIM Mr. Bade brought la • bill ter inquiries into the Duchy of Lasseter, end for the sale of lauds sad tenements bolded: to the said Doehy, sad &Mynas the eroded to de public service.; T 0.,. was a three dimension. It was said that die was relive property. Mr. Burke said, la dower to that, that to effirte that portioned had no right to reserve puss said, to the down for pablie perpceee, would sweat to • dbeelaties of de goverdesot. What did the moms show as to the prods', of the property ? Att avenge insane fee sin years of 32,0001.. sad sa average annual piqued is her Majesty's privy parse of 12,0001. When sea wee the era that the defer redoes was 32,0001. and betl2.oool. hand its way bite her Majesty's puree, he thoeght a on. was established ter SON imitate, into the aa segenient dile property, and that he was bound to assist the Win. amber for Tadao& is voting for the ingairy. Mr. P. WOOD argued that as the seversign, or the Prinee of Weld, were the /sly parties who weed - suffer from the diem:use:neat, so were they "sly gadded to interfere in the 'disintegrative details of the dudes of Carswell and lesdaster. _ Iler R. PEEL observed that it wee unwise, whoa a man speaking is the House of Commons attempted to deny the rights of the House of Commons. The rights of the Hasse of Comma's were very wide and extensive. Is other sues there was a right to institute an inquiry, if they thought It, bat the ease of the Duchies of Lanoaster and Cornwall stood on theorist ground,. It appeared that is the civil Eat thus properties were reserved I. the crown. and he thought it much more conducive to the good tanagement of these properties to leave them in the adednisfration of the crown. He di i not mean to deny, that if there wu reason to believe that the revenue of three properties was applied to corrupt purposes, or ware badly managed, that that Meld jus tify the interference of the House of Commons. Ravin, some connexion with the Duchy of Cornwall, being a trustee to receive the ammulations of property invested in the funds, he mast state his firm belief that there was no property, public or private, which of late years had be* n better admisbtered. There being every presumption that when the prises arrived at his majority there would be an immolation of funds, he did not think that the Hem of Commons would do well to appoint a committee of inquiry. Mr. H. GIBSON said he had it on the authority of the hog and learned membr r for oxford that the funds of the , Duly of Laneaster were applied to the 'maintenance of a defective system, in fast that the courts of justice In the Duchy were so delestive, that if some reform were not made, be would himself be an tler the necessity of coming to parlia ment with measures for their reformation. He (Mr. Gibson) thought this branch of the question a very important one, seeing that these courts had separate jursdictions often cleat ing with the laws of the realm and occasioning great public lsoesveniesto. He felt bound to support the mo tioaef got het. member fir Tavistock. Mr. HUME contended that it was within the power of parliament to make the inquiry now called for. Be ad mitted that great improvements bad taken place la the management of the estates mien the period when almost the whole revenues faiths Duchies were aborted in the payment of salaries, bat even at the pro-nt moment 12,0001. were absorbed for that purpose out of revenues which did not exceed 30,0001. (Hear, hear.) He thought that inquiry would be expedient if it were only with a view of seeing whether they could not consolidate many of the items of revenue, for in many cues the expensive mode of collection absorbed the whole of the receipt., was attended with incon venience to the parties who pail, and afforded no advantage to the parties who received. Were he her Pif jeaty, he would my, by all means let inquiry take place. He had observed that the annuli tin dues, which amounted to between 16,0001. and 20,0001., formerly paid by the pro prietors, and which formed pert of the nem* of the Hake of Cornwal l women one aeration and all at one removed by a bill in mugs:neat, and the amount made a shame on the consolidated had. If they granted inquiry is this cam it would at least show that there was nothing to conceal, and therefore he thought the motion of Smite.. member entitled to the anent of government and the hone. Lord DUNCAN, after alluding to the inquiries made by the committee of which he had been chairman, into the um magnum% of the Woods and Forests, and thanking the government for the ample information they had supplied to that committee, said that he meld not vote for the present motion, because it appeared to him that of all institations in the world the House of Commons was the very want steward foe the management of public prop., Mr. STANFORD opposed the motion. Mr. TRELAWNY slide one or two observations in reply, and the motion was nega•ived without a division. SUPPLY.-ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. -- - - The house went into committee °reapply. Col. ANSON mid he regretted very much that it was not in his power to bring forward the ordnance estimates is regular course, but was obliged to resort to it. unusual expedient Ideating for a vote of money on account for the purpose of defray's; Opt portion of the expenditure whOh came due after the dose of the financial year. It was die wish that the ordains, estimates should be brought forward ,at an early period of the mosaics, beeanite he beloved that delay was stoonviaiest to the government, to the depart ment, and to the hones. But, however anxious government might be to expedite public busing'', however desirous the department might be to obtain the sanction of peritoneal fur their poetise of the public movies, the house must be aware that them were sireumstmess wide the government eyed not Nee* meet gemeimely interfered to prevent ?edam of Impetuses tram brought forwstd. Ile treated that es the ewe occasion he should be permitted to pees in the heads of the chairman cat tails votes est ageonat whin in the aggregate would amount to about 11110,01/.. to asses her Majesty to provide for the server assess be seem of payment after the cleft of the gneaeet per. lie bad the permiseton of his noble friend at the bead of the government for stating that on the drat supply night she the nem the Ordnance estimates would be Meet. ialowiaa os OS streanat were en proposed : 60,000 i. on amou t it ef Wowing da d pay of the several ordains solitary seeps. Mr. RUMS said that. as them vets. were proposed merely ea aseeetat, sad as the t peorand that the do tilled statement skald be ipee& laid on tke table, he would sot ddw_the boon by may loos. Mr. SPOOR= non that the manna estimates would sot be bresaht ihroard in the Gist day altar the nom, as it would Manna airy man with the atandliatil of meta ben at Quieter lismiaah (A laugh.) Lord J. RUSSELL said he felt the insomnia's' alluded to by In boa. member ; bat if be wen to resod* to the swims saffostion man by boa. membets, a areas deal of time wend be last Ma bed already manned the Ammo lin bill at the omen if on kn. wombat i add if sow he wore to pat of supply, than maid ho a day lot before and • day after the relies to inrarommoll badaess. Sir H, WILL9UOHIIT asked whoa the ansellasons mimes@ would be brought in. Lord J. BIJIMBLL could not is a day, bat fall if... would b. gists for their consideration. Vote agreed to. Igll,OOOL as moue% of oconainariat and barrack sapplien M O:Nowa& defraying the expenses of the Ordnance OBes. Agreed te. OAK en neessee of ordinate establishments. Agreed to. on ba V h , .• mesas of barrack sotabliNhatasts. Agreed to. 1 engensw ordain's. bone ; 160,0001. works and Both votes agreed to. A v0te7; 1 4 . 101. ea meant, for the Woad& braneku, ' was *greed to. Mr. 111/M3 hoped that sone Mum would be laid before 1 1 the hem to referees, to the stores, Mowing how lay they had been se hand, sad what they bed sold for. Wesel hand said there was no return of that &scrip. tics, bat when the caseation Game properly before the hones It. would be gaits prepared to state what was dace with We. A vote of 40,0001. ea amount, for the ass-effeetive en vie., was this agreed to, tied the house having mused, the resolutions were ordered to be reported tomorrow (this day). CHIEF JUSTICES' SALAILIES BILL. The order of the day tor gofag hue essauluse on this bill having bees moved, Mr. CHRISTOPHER, who had gives nodes of hi. inten tion t. is.,. that it be ea laureates Se the said oestruittee that they have power to nuke provides kw the prow peetive redwitiest of the salaries sad seselemeetts of the Lard Chassidic., the Muter of the 204 de The•Clutu &lora, the Chief lierao, end all the yahoo judges. said km hoped thimble lord would prevent the wessedlyelbir defame b, peeved'', this bill until: they naive* tbe report of the Edon amnia, which the noble lord bed did_ sit given nodes he banded to more for. Lead Daum Wei eon agmtd to weave 8,0001. instead of AUK omit par liament &sided what the futon numineostlen should be, he ucht that In the present stele a park ban ea such eublre's it would he lame desirous _ edes, d SZ it yK: should be received Rubles' to the Mare mud of meat, and set sew be Mud by Ibis lr, mod ads Cre — v7- eohle by the onsuittes. If the Edge lard would give a pledge to that effect he would ad peas the station of white he gave notice, but net udiadoi that me advantage would be takes of his forbearaaes. . Lis( J. RUSSELL said that Let ss regerled the peal grass el Ms bar—it seemed to him as erasion which ought net to be kat et Ida. the salary of the Chief Justice of the Queen's How& Lord Dramas. back the rase with the sailer elesdieg that IS shoal he 13.0001., sad the (sly reeord of that aderemed a treasury mints. Some piers after Les 4 stop& that the prisdple of as/ such t was eldeetlesable if sot saw ) thought offset by it r er2 "" perilamest He (lard J. Ruseell) that 'plait Mbe esersa il so fur It wes set Hula t h at a abaft thigh might he revoked or altered ahead be the eels weaselly le aside what wee the mast of salary te he gal te the Lard Chief Issas—that if he should die or elsft the ha legal meaty, the,. shall net he any ee bpi = pewee to resist sash sir illtglisgties.l: that se euelsgesey sf *se Ided isalreehi a sae et Lard Deems% lath. ass monad unease mad hesese. (Hier, bar.) Is his esset is ormasel elfeelles lan list the es base earewiely IslittrJ,ltessell=7:. take the ty of maks, a permanent =isst by law ea the seldeet. If lie wafted until theud and V their *aides were long delayed, there wo n urr i sti Female to Lord Deana and his esti:sten the fell legal rot:of sharing the lull salary ever aim he took the WagiHese, the sweessity of seising this opportunity for ng is the presume amen. He cousulted Lord NAM= sad the prearst Lie d Chancellor s on the subject and they wen both of epistles that 8,0001. should be the , amount; ad he gave setae to Lord Campbell that he should imms dlMui a bill firing that as the salary. Lord was, therefore, aware that that would be the 11111111111114111 salary while he hold the Mlles. The only other tedUllablite proposed by the bill were prospective reductioas The blew sesames silted whether, if any cans should he primessoll is duller oases during the su ing of the cots = to be obliged to take oaks su ject to such es the sensate* might hereafter recommend. U the bee. gratlemtut to mean such reductions as were mile use of parliament, he thought his proposi• Wm a fair ewe, soil was mdy to secede to it. With thi s implanatio• be hoped the house would go into committee on the bill. Mr. MULLINOS thought that the agreement entered into by Lord Denman on the ems hand and Lord Campbell on the other, was so fez binding as to prevent any possibility of im munologic, from postponing the bill. Relying upon thiOnd and 3rd Wm. IV., e. 118, he maintained that this bill was wholly unnecessary, and that the country bad fill protection lathe present smarmiest. If they passed this bill it would be an indication to the intended committee that here after those salaries being Said could not be touched. He, on the contrary, hoped that the crown should retain the power of altering them. He believed that their salaries were meek higher thaa they ought to be, and might easily be diminished without injury to the bench. It was not those who were making the largest incomes at the bar that made the best judges—bat those who devote more time to the study of the law in their chambers. If the house did go into elonunitthe os this bill, he should certainly propose to re duce the amount of malarial proposed. The SOLICITOR ORNERAL said it was not now a question whether the salaries were too great or too small. The hoc. gentleman's law was not only not correct, bat ii it were it would be a great misfortune and necessary to repeal it by an set of parliament. (H ear , h ear. ) If a judge appointed at 10,0021. offend e d th e government, th ey might, by the hon. gentleman's law, at oath reduce his salary to 6,0001. A greater calamity could not betel this country than to make the judges dependent on, or affected by, the opinion of the Grown. (Hear, beer) The nuns should bp fixed by set of parliament, and no other sum should be given. The hon. gentleman apprehended a* inconvenience from Lord Denman's death, in the absence of such act. Suppose his will to be silent on the subject, he (the Solicitor-General) doubted if it would not become the duty of his exeeuton to call for the payment of the additional 2,0001. a year since the noble lord took the office. The hon. gentleman's law was wrong, and it would be • great calamity if it were right. Mr. HUME agreed with the Solicitor-General that the bon. gentleman's law was not correct. The quer ion was on I what prine/ple this bill was to pass. If it were intended merely to stop the team of Lord Denman or his executors, there would be no d.fticulty in doing that by getting a re. oeipt in full for the whole salary, and thus removing the nee. salty of the measure until the question was fully sifted. That it ought to be sifted be had no doubt ; he hoped the noble lord would include in his proposed inquiry all the judges of the land. The hon. member then read the follow ing summary of the number of judges in the United King. dom, and the amount of AV/solaria taken from the returns of 1844: England. Ireland. Illeotland. Total. I I 1 1 • i ' 1 z . I I A . - - c - .0 C Ja Courta d e s (4 Superior } 22 123,377 16 63,004 13 42, .OL. 51 229,031 Judie. of Interior) Courts, Inelndiai the Bankruptcy and lnaoleen t t 123 83,399 10S 53,032 81 34,470 312 172,951 Debtors' Cour, Stipendiary M.I. =atm, and ahem) --, Total 145 208,976 124 116,066 91 78 970 363 402,032 The judges were the last men whine salaries he should like to reduce. Still, he believed there was not a Wary in the country that ought not to be brought before them and re tired. It should be remembered that the salaries of judge*, as well as their retiring pensions, bed been consi derably increased in the present century. He hoped that in this ease it would be understood by Lord Campbell that he was to receive 8,0001. subject to the opinion of the committee that was to be appointed. Mr. V. SMITH bad no doubt that the law of the Solicitor. General was correct ; bat, being so, what a scene of neglect did it present not only on the part of the present but pre ceding governments. Nothing ought to be more defined or fixed than the judges' salaries. There should be no bar gaining, no bidding 111110•Fli lawyers for a seat that ought to be pure and immaculate. With regard to Lord Denman, he thought there maid be no difficulty in his case, its he was quite lure that noble lord would give a receipt in full if applied to, or if that would not be sufficient, a short bill might be pealed to meet that particular ease. (Hear.) Mr. TURNER, who was moot indistinctly heard, said he differed trom both the hon. and learned gentlemen. (Mr. Mulling' and the Solicitor-General.) He thought there was no discretion in fining the salary of the Chiet Justice, bat that the act of parliament was imperative, but, on the other hand, he considered that Lord Denmsn's executors—that noble lord having consented to an arrangement, and acted upon it for 16 years—would have no claim for the difference between the 8,0001. a year he had received, and the 10,0001. as flied by the set of parliament. Great credit was due to Lord Denman for refusing to take more than he conscien tiously thought a fair remuneration for the duties of the ries. (Hsu.) And knowing what he did of the high character of that noble and learned lord, he was quite sure that if the idea ever emceed his mind that it was possible his executors might make a claim for the additional 2,0001. a year, he would to-morrow Weeder a clause in his will, depriving them of the power. (Her, bear.) If the noble lord meant to aban don the prospective salaries, and tenths the measure to the settlement of the present Lord Chief Joshes of England's salary ho had so objection ; but if he proposed now to fix the later* salary of that office, he mast oppose the further pro gress of the bill. (Hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL said that with regard to that part of the bill which related to the prospective salaries of the Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, he had no objection to strike it out, as that would be aproper subject for the considera tion of the committee. (Hear, hear.) But he could not consent to leave the merry of the Chief Justice of Eng:and dependent, merely is the understanding which had rived with Load Deanna for so many years, and most therefore pries the bias, to go into committee. (Hear.) Mr. HENLEY could not understand the haste just now erred to settle a question which had bean allowed to stand over for eighteee year He admitted there was great force in what the Solicitor-Gears' had said as to tie enormous ineenverseme of allowing an appointment to be paid by • salary of uncertain amount, to be flied at the pkasnre of the crows. Bat he did nut think the bon. and learned gentle. men had put a correct esastruetion on the set of William the Fourth, which, as it appeared to him (Mr. Henley), related merely to the feed oat of which the salary should be paid, the amount having bees settled by the act of George the Fourth. - - 15 - ii — Ci. GREY observed that the Mike of Chief Justice of the Queen's Bench would be in the am position u that of the Chief Jostles of the Common Pleas and the other judges. That was that whatever redaction might be de aided tapes tbe ° would only take place In regard to the law* baker of Mos. Mr. BRIGHT thought, after what they bad hoard, no me amid believe that the object of this bill was to prevent any claim being made by the executors of Lord Denman, or to save the ahoy of the Chief Justice of the Common Hess, for that part of the mason the noble lord had abandoned to be dealt with by thie esemelaso. Lord J. RUSSELL—Ea the ball was brought is for that object. Mr, BRIGHT weuld admit, for the sake of argument, that that Main did kna some part of the motion foe the bill ; but ths same matter, the salary of the Lord Chief Justin of Meg ,mar still to be dealt with by this measure. It was not mesessery now that he should express any opinion se to whether the salary proposed was too large or too snail; but he objected to dating with the subject at all at ream, because if the noble lord really in tended thetkeproposed committee to carry out a fair, impartial, sad i inquiry into these salmi, s generally, for the of reducing or lamming them to the proper level, r:Pord be most unnamable to monde from their consi. Oration the salary of the Lord Chief Justice. (Hear.) Mr. B. DBNISON meloreloM the noble lord to say that after the holidays he woad propose a onnsaitta to consider the salaries of the nelson generally. (Hear, hear.) That, of souse, would ludas** salary of Lord Conpbell. (No, ao.) He andante:led Oat Lord Campbell would continue to resolve 8,0001. a year, bat that the salary of the office he held would come under consideration prospectively in the same way a the others. (Hear.) As Lord Contemn had taken the oaks upon the undentanding that the salary would be 8,0001. a year, he should vote for the Sir B. HALL wad not nadentaad why the Lord Chief Justice's salary should be made an exception to the other jud' salary. Lord J. RUSSELL remarked, that the committee was to have a prospective operation. After a few words heft Colonel Stenfonr, Mr. SPOONER moved by way of amendeneat, that the house resolve itself into committee on Friday, the 12th of Mr. FORBMS onsoadod the mottos, and thought it w. Inn snore reoperaut to th• foellags of the country to peopove tie Maio sea the time fixed 117 Ms hos. Moad's sum& swot. _ _ _ Lord J. RI7BBELL did sot thiak the bones or the boa, member for Werwiekellse, who had just moved an amen& meat, seemed exactly to apprehend the present stet' of the question. For himself h e could nay he only had corneae* of the question within these two yens & • and as soot se be ISM then wee sometbing in the ohjeno s i referred to bribe berm member, he took the first e of making thesegenrentent by the aid am act of pa PI ;ITZ2 He thought It Opt to propose thiamine to the LttiOlthr., tr Justice. Hetbs• asked the Lord Ch ance ll or whetnnin, ought to he, and be said B , oo N,,tfes the Lord Qat yeatles, sad LOON supse . a year for Justice of the Cora -1 mum Pleas. The Lord Chief Justice said this we. his °piens I likewise, amt now government were blamed for doing the very thing Mr set doing whisk the goverment 18 yam s I d ea wogs limed by the bon. gentleman. (Hear.) It was quite Mtn the reopened reduction now to 8,0001. would he a rents ice the oesamittee not considering the salary of the present chief Justin; but if they did consider the a elary, do so with reference to a prospective redaction, if melon * should be determined upon. It might be hie fault that he did not monies other conditions to Lord C .mphall (we understood), He did not do so, and his reason hor anise to the house form a committee was to make that knit by set of parliament which at present depended en an ender. taking sad special arrangement. It would be wrong if the Treasury had power to say the salary of the Laid Cub i t Jamie* shall be 8,0001. one year and 10,0001. soother yea r . I Though this might not affect the integrity of the Yu• gra, it mieht give rise to unfounded sunimone • lie woulit, under all circutastanxs, ask the house to go now into committee, and to fix the salary at 8,0001. a year permanently, out to make a reduction of the salary from 10,0001. • year to 8,0001 a year, and any other redaction, by a select committee in this or other salaries would prospeeueely affect future judbes. After a few words from Sir B. HALL, Mr. STANFORD said, that if they lived in superstitious times, with such a prodigy as occurred that evening th ey might infer some dreadful calamity was about to betel them, They saw the ministry--a whig ministry, too—coming down with • measure for the reduction of salaries, and con servative members clamouring for a still gr atter reduction. (Laughter and cries of "Divide, divide.") Th e h bar for Cirencester had certainly tak en u p a " Lagoa! of Montrcee,"—'• Magnum tat reel asp e pat sitnonie." Lava titer and "Divide, divide.") If th e boo. gent l eman who morn the amendment included the s a l ar i es o f a ll o ffi c i al . , then he (Mr. Stanford) would vote with him; but at pr event he thou eht e on :popular grounds, men wh o atta i ne d to nth position should not have their salaries attacked. Mr. MULLINOS cossilercd the bill wholly unnecessary; and its only effect would be to clog the inquiries of the cont. mitts.. On looking over the bill he did not find the slightest allusion to Lord Campbell; and the object of the bill ww, is his opinion, a fixing of the salary, not on Lord Campbell is person, but on all chief justices of the Queen's B e ach in per. ;fatuity. (" Hear, hear," and cries of " Divide.") The house then divided— For going into committee For the amendment 5l-49 The house then went into committee on toe h.l. On the first cisme, Mr. MULLINGS said he wished to propose an emend_ meet, reducing the allowance to the present thief justice CO 7,0001. a year, and that to his successor to 6,0001. Mr. CHRISTOPHER said he had 'tarty. d to make a motion on that subject, but as the gov reran' hsd in'imated it to be their inten'ion to move for a 'elect committee on judicial salaries, be was unwilling to pledge himseli to any p aticuln view. At the same time to affirm, as was dine in the bill, that the slimy of the chief justice 'tumid he 10,0001. • year, would be quite at variance with his precon ceived opinion. He would suggest to hie hon. friend the propriety of postponing his motion eaul the bill stood for the third reading. Mr. HUME said the whole difficulty would he rimmed if Lord Denman would give a receipt fir 36,0001. He hoped the noble l„ td would agree to leave out the objec.iinaolis words. Lord J. RUSSELL could not agree to that. (Lighter.) Nor did he think it at all probable that Lord I) 'amen weuid consent to give a receipt for 36,0001. which he hid not received. After a conversation as to the form in which the amend ment should be put, Mr. MULLINGS withdrew bit proplsal, and Mr. HENLEY submitted an amendment, which directly raised the question that the s a l ar y s h ou ld h e on l y 7 00 , 11. Looktng at the greater amount of patronage and in fluence connected with the (Ace of Lord Chief jiver., 7,0001. was equivalent to 8,0001. for the other tth o , opt cielly taking into account the change in the cireurnstmcea of the country. It was the general opinion that toe prote , ait.nal emoluments of the bar were likely to suffer, if they had not done so already—another argument for making the rrduaton proposed. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD wished to know from the noble lord (Lord J. Resell) if there was a compact with the I , resent Lord Chiet Justice; if so, he would not vote s i latu-t the 8,0001.; but with regard to any future Chiet Jotice, Or would ' support a salary rat 7,0001 Lord J. RUSSELL said that if a committee war •o to ap pointed, it would be better for them to consider ali toe salaries together ; and if they thought proper to make any reduction, let it be done after due examination. Mr. HUSIE—Was it not understood last y• its that no new appointment should be made without being subject t i such reduction in the salary as the house might decide op.;ml (Hear. hear ) Does not the noble lord rec4lltct ths• ? Lord J. RUSSELL—I think I stated more than occe—l am not quite sure that 'stated it every tiros—that, uf cuutie, although it might be generally understood, i' c .uld not apply to every ewe ; more especially as when toe j u !Kea take others of this kind it could not be expected that esery one to wows& the trfi..• was offered would consent that the s...ary should be re , tuced any lower. Colonel SIBTHORP—I put it distinctly to the recoiled Lion of the noble lord if he did not state, in aesner to my question, that such reduction would take place in the scary Of anyone hereafter to be appointed i (Hear, hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL—As far as I recollect it, the hon. and gallant gentleman asked me whether a new juda- would take the reduced salary, and I answered, the reduatl salary of 8,0001. a year. (No, no.) Mr. HENLEY-1 certainly bad an imprasion that the question was put to the noble lord wi.h trfirehce to the appointment then expected to be made of Chief J certainly with reference to the amount that might hat dealt with by parliament hereafter. (Hear, hear.) Mr. PS. OSBORNE said he should supp crt the smend merit, not because he thought the sating of 1,0001. a year much, but because it held out an earnest to the evuot.y of what the party opposite would do if pryer:y encourager& by hon, gentlemen on his side of the house—(.aughter), was, he must say, did not appear to treat this motisn as they ought, consistently with the general opinion out of dt•ois. He ob jected to the motion for one reason, thinking a reduction to 3,0001. would be better than ono to 7,0001. He considered 3,0001. a year an ample :mery for the Lord Chief Justice of En !‘ land, with the patronage and honour he would enjoy. T. e Prime Minister was more overworked than the Lard Cni‘t Just es, and had no retiring potion let any men tak! that dice and say if he was prid with 5,0001. a year. Cul. THOMPSON saw very little fore? in the reasons urged on the opposite side why salaries should he reduced in the way they &haired. The statement was that prices nod fallen; might not those whose salaries it was pr.tpusid to reduce, alao state that prices had once risen upsn them? If this were not so, a strong case would be made out against them; but be could not admit, because prices had ranee, and that because there had been a cessation or what the =- pray of the country had determined to be a harmful and injurious monopoly—thus damaging the int. rests of these who had enjoyed it, but producing great advantage to the nation at large, of which one moat eminent pn of was the surplus which the Chancellor of the Exchequer declared he bad—under those circumstances he could not admit that the liberals or free-traders were bound to follow ri i abso lutely the lead of hon. gentlemen opposite. He w :arid vote in favour of the motion of the hon. gantlet:tau site, hoping that the gentlemen on that side of the &Kolar would proceed further in that din ction. (Cheers.) Mr. SPOON ER complained that the noble lot • did not bring in this bill prior to the tints when the m n Lament was made. Mr. M. O'CONNELL said that he thought t - .is was a matter on which the House should have the opoolomut wets of the gentlemen b longing to that profession ' VI. proem and salarie• in which were thus at:warted to bered,md. Mr. HUI'S said that he wished to ask some of the mem bers of the legal profession whether the profits of ins: pt.,- (melon were now equal to what the profits were who these salaries were iocreased ? He himself believed ttat they were net equal to one-third of what they were et mat time. He thought that 7.0001. per annum was n.• more than adequate to pay for the services of the Chi: tionthell when they took into consideration the fall which MLA whin place in the prices. Mr. P. WOOD said that when he was called upon to set as a peofeesed 'creme, in financial =avers, he mat tog leave to my that the house would act with singuler don if they commenced sleeking reforms in metiers at Si. nage* by cutting down the salaries of the moat imp matt fugetionaries in the kingdom. (Cheers.) And he would also say that the house having decided that they w, re now ready to go on with the committee, he had net the b. st hesitation in voting for 8,0001. instead of 7,00)/. 1 air r, hear.) He thought that the honourable memb. r tor et• d iced had put this question in a very brig..t light before them, and he agreed with him in thinking thst this was not a question which had any relation to the tab* of prices. He would also beg the house to consider that the judges were at great especial when on circuit, so that inch ed practically their income did not much exceed the 7 0001 a year to which hon. gentlemen wished to reduce it. He thought they were beginning with economy a' the wrest end, for these were the men on whom their property amt life might depend. Mr. DEEDES said, if anything were wanting to Convince him of the extreme impolicy of the noble lord, it is ouid be the speech of the hon. gentleman who bad just 5 t O-wn. He taunted them with beginning at the wrong end. W t lO had compelled them to takethat warm ? Mr. HENLEY said it was government who 65,1 brought forward the question of the salary of the Chief J ustie . its propming to reduce it from 10,00 01 . to 8,0001 , and r e neuo had a right to say whether that was a proper redo,. ion. I: was to him a source of great regret that the I, ~. le lord had driven them to do this; he wished it to hare h,en ru (erred to a committee. ..... - After • few words from Col. RZID and Mr. Mt LLINOr the a:motive., divided— the* antondstent Anaemia it Mr. HUME asked whether the oonimittee ihai t appointed would have any power to conader the sal* S of the Chief Judos. of ii boat their faze. to bti nvu G bully Danis NI. mut, i Ines e fore. migh t strue l And . izrok, Ily dine-, trim op*ol, the a„ . th. th old D *ecru rest er 4 Ge nus blight -11 4 th e mei ~.cordioB toy Pf rtel y Ppw ers tHres. 7—_—___________..,„ he motion, god thought it would te Of the country t o pestle* * , I anti hie hon. friernd's awes. Ibg [tenon l a tflsad h who P: ir a had lt e aw within a 1 I t ii . 1 dust a could tah b o as. th eved m e a P y raor t ia w ei : h f umia‘t y i e til: ec e sly ~ , . , • ell e was menetbieg in th e ohyeedem it , abet, he took the first e by the aid of an set of pill= pose the matte, to the IneglNgli, " 4 • t I Lord Chancellor wherre in , fo Cl N i elgr u f Justi th ee e of Xs ili.t if Justice said this was his °plait* / o meat were blamed for doing th e 11 which the government 18 yams of 01 Ow. gentleman. (Hear.) It was mo o ' [action now to B,ooot. would he elan sot considering the salary of the had f they did consider the salary, to and respective redaction, if reduction hint I. It might be his fault th a t h e 'l'l to b editions to Lord C daybed (we t do so, and his reason for mi f ins, was to make that tided b e y TI present depended en an under. neat. It would be wrong if the T 1 y the salary of the Laid Chi e f year and 10,0001. another yea r . T 1 et the integrity of the jot gas, A mitt , rd suspicion.. He w ou lti, under muse to go now into committee, TI ek a year permanently, o u t to try from 10,0001 . a year to 8,0001 brine sect non, by a select co mm i ttee in this in 11 ipeetively affect future judges. the t lir B. HALL, anti that if they lived in surestitinue uncle as occurred that everinig they pert :dimity was about to betel them, spot 4 whig ministry, too—cerning pat he reduction of salaries, and cos ehui - 'leg for a still gr atsr reduction. gage [vide, divide.") The h 4. men- ree Pt ertainly taken up a " Legend of byti f recess/epee simonie." ( L au it htee evil ' the boo. gentleman who moved date , is salaries of all official., then he valet , le with him; but at prevent he byw de, men who attained to such a Port , Leis salaries attacked. mitill teed the bill wholly untiecemary ; act 0 to clog the inquiries of the cern- go to • bill he did not find the slightest them and the object of the bill wee, in ghoul salary, not on Lord Campeell in Hotel ices of the Queen'. Bench in per. of tl old cries of " Divid e ." ) not thee tee 51-49 chart 9 committee on time be!. that any i he wished to propo se an ',meld- meat mo ace to the present t h ie f justice to abl er able • cis successor to 6,0001, ee aid he bad Admit , d to mak e a marl uthe gov•roment bed intimated inter 5 move for a 'elect committee on wal. rifling to pledge Lion e l, to an The tie time to a ffi rm, as was dine is umi of the chi e f j ust i ce s h ou ld b e of th mite at variance w ith his prem. land ad suggest to h i s bun. Wend wool Mg his motion haul t h e bill entice Ae difficulty w ou ld he removed when i e a receipt br 36,0001. He tweed s to leave out the objeciimaole Corr r.nee m nC r U . 1 not agree to that. (Leiighter 11 probable that. Lord I ) Oman the o ipt for 36,0001. which he hid not had 1 ) the form in which the amen d- tue comb raw his propseal, and woulianoth d an amendmene, which ilir ee tly in hit o salary should he on ly 7 0001. Cel amount of patronage end in- holt be office of L o rd Ch ie f J u . ti'e, Tit it 1,0001. for the other i th e , e • pe - he change in the circumet P.C.. of meal opinion that the prlee` 14,W 1 likely to suffer, if they had not zument for making the re du?tion !shed to know from the noble lord ras a compact with the eresent Tht i, he would net vote seatu-t Ma up to• my future Chief Justice, he would Th, that if a committee was •o Is ap- Bane it for them to consider al, toe lees Chili, ey thought proper to mike ray The ter due exammatien. be ma understood last yi an that no new Thi e without being subject t i suck States the house might decide epee 1 The e noble lord recollect the • ? Ceelni hick I stated more then occe—l arena od it every time—that, of course, The :era'', understood, i' could not EifYIA specially as when the ju lees take be me lot be a:petted that eserj eine to would consent that the Leary ir. • put it distinctly to the recoiled i did not state, in insert to my in would take place in the scary pointed i (Heim, hear.) far as I recollect it, the hon. and no whether a new judge would Tit i I answered, the reduc:ir eatery ) has to inly bad an impression, that the oble lord wi.h reference to the of our to be made of Chief J.ittice— culiar the amount that might be dealt of int er. (Hear, hear.) boat, he should supp irt the emer.d. tight the saving of 1,0001. a year their c ,ut an earnest to the cettetiy of faze. aid do if properly encouraged by ill you of the house--(taughter), won, he and at treat thou motion as they ought, true, t al opinion out of door , . He ob- le reason, thinking a reduction It h better than one to 7,0001. the Et rival a lush 7 ce ear of E 12470111, :diary Bettie he would enjoy. T. e Prime R ha Ltd than the Lard Cnii. t Just co, let any min Mkt that edicts lag i 5,0001. a year. eh thei very little fore? in the reasons Culogn shy salaries should be reduced in give, a, statement was that prices tad DORP I hese salaries it was prdposed to where, me had once risen upon Ul9lO ? PSI would be made out Against Protect nit, because prices bed tulle., been a cessation of what the ms- omnibi ttermined to be a harmful and cocked r az u agin: the at ini , r as es t u sp ef ro th i er e Prue) toe most eminent prof was the touter or of the Exchequer declared he Russia mem he could not a !mit that Where. were bound to follow tid shoe Lai deism opposite. He w , tuil vote Such if the hon. gentlemat, i IT cite,. a on that side of the boa., mead Made t ction. (Cheers.) to Btue led that the noble tot • did not tede' s e time when the m p Lament bully tl Danish aid that he thought t• - .is was a X Nit ihould have the opooione ut ems ' to that profession, tn. pretits otrtyin thus attempted to be redi,ce el. wished to ask some of the sew id)aciii:lB mightA ellai Co b d en.3 2 1 K nee l s ' t, i 21 I 3° 1 the t eee tl e t 11 .canee - 4doYfrt if i la de[ n . elikk ihftil r liVBaa aftr teeec 'aiailtitsgffiilit' : ' i whether the profits of :net pr.,- itat the profits were who these le himself believed Oat they ,rd of what ttey were at teat 001. per annum was a .• ISOM the services of the Chit i dish. ration the fall which ba.i taken when he wag called upon to met would act with singuler iudesie. t tins( reforms in matters ~t tie financial maters, he near bed aluies of the most impirtent bliehtnen om. (Cheers.) And he would ing decided that they wire now mitts., he had not the b.i.:h , ,st 0001. instead of 7,000/. (Ile r, ie honourable metal,. r tor ii• 0- - • ion in a very brig ~t light with him in thinking that this id any relation to the tsetse of the house to consider that the ens* when on circuit, so that tome did not much eaceed the trios et . gentlemen wished to reduce it. °Peaty i ining with economy a' the nem( atitutton n on whom their property and c ji itlie jibing were wanting to eenvince s9ttlng io i of the noble lord, it would be the G er , Leman who had juet s t &wen. the thr t inning at the wrong end. ti .to old Di. that *muse ? teems .:, a government who bid brought Ate pis ea reatoristi( Germa n the 0 ,,,,,, 7,.loi l ioto ., :::tim:stor t :lB, th ,:oo:::Eti e ltr b ,ht i raah r en:,:des J ;i:h u .,..,:e,,il. i nl e h.ol . :; l lll l: c ording e Sol. RaID and Mr. HULLI9O9. is to e ta , I , , t , i;— 4$ If the oonsmittee that sae ' Oo f Pow er , .., power to cons.der trio 5O tire s. ^