The Express. — London, England, 1855-05-26 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS. SATURDAY EVENING, MAY 26, 1855. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. that impeemion, and wherever that etteeh foe eitulation that imereel&PS would Legg LYTTELTON wished to my a few ad I bad hew sae of the small atiserity tba d sherd& sett Is his original oppreitioa that the setts earl had now a shut lie his *lmpor dl t. area with the mimes of the ateina. 41 0 . 1 bidibo adopt all Me views whit* the noble sir i -bed szprtemp. Whew the war buss it was supported by many who coati. dered it right to resist the violation of the public law o f Ileum involved is the lateens silks Prissipalitise. Tha object of the war was less duo attained, as the Remises had bees drives out of them Meg ago. The third point was the only one ea which there was now any difference. By the terms proposed by Russia the preponderance of that power was abandoned. lie did sot think that any tonna of &T -rumann could poesibly be wholly satisfactory, so loeg as Rua M and Turkey occupied their precut position of • strong power alongside of a weak ewe. Se agreed with the noble earl that the terms laid down were each as it was in. possible foe Rona to uses ; they woad plum her in a amino° of meanest &ad necemary inferiority. If the noble earl determined to divide the hour, he would feel bolted to divide with him. Toe Bishop of OXFORD, the Doke Of NIIWOLOTLI, end the Earl of DIRRY opposed the rotolution. The latter speaker said he felt, as well as the noble seal (Grey) the greatest horror of the calamities of war; but we had now entered into the war, and the question was bow we could withdraw from it, with a reasonable woke that we 'Meld not be plasma. into author within eht soothe more aggravated is its character. (Rea. bear.) This was no time for commuting us how the war might have been conducted, sr what might have been due. (Ater, bear.) He did sot regret that the negotiations at Vivaria had failed. If we were to have an botioereble pease, we must conquer that peace ; and we weld only ter minate the war by a sostissaans to the noble efforts we were sow making. (Cheers.) Ead GRANVILLE congratulated the bout' that alebengh the speech of the mover was of a siagelarly irri• Milts character, scarcely a sestina had been uttered on the Ohm eMs which bore that character. The noble earl =lied saisapprekteaded the Secretary foe Fangs rhea be supp sod him to have stated that the negoti- Mies were closed. At present a proposition bed been re solved from Austria ; it was now older essidention by the governments of trust sad England; but be mot my there wee very little elsenee—is feet, so shames—of its beteg , adapted by the allied powers. (Chore.) Re differed from sue seine keen who thought that had a higher teas been takes two yen*yq the wee might have been prevented. He wee eonv mod that souse would only bare mode mat ten wont Re mmehnied by 'Emmen' his hope that a I divides would be taken en the motios. (Rear.) ...........-i -lepd the cos try throurtii thoptruggle in which it is nipped . linear Eafits . lAltdat "7 Oat thlizw!tsa, of 160 h e ell 04 Od WIMPS We ardlidrOat dO &Vide it we 1 for ip whin it refill. I could phintly *Aerated that a greet Indy whitheltaks that getrit !nigh% to Am transferred to the., entilrat those whir hold power an net fit to retain it, should ask the house to transfer that poorer from those who bold it to those who wish to posses ; but if that is the coarse which th e party oe the sou side se the house is desirous of punning, thee I take oo myself to, ' aka that the manner is which the y have sought that 11 AIM it not fitted to the subject to which their motion ill! a sse ra. I hardly like to descen d to verbal criticism, bat 1 1 I Must say that when it is thought necessary se lei fault with a goverment, it is generally the I Mom to find fault with something they have doped Dissatisfaction Ii invoked for our " ambiguous language sad uncertain conduct." Why, sir, I deny that our language has been ambiguous, or our conduct uncertain. (Cheers, and some expressions of derision.) If the party opposite would call down upon us the meson of the horns, they oeght to have some better grouads for it. I pass that by—l accept the challenge they give us. Sir, I heard the speech of my right hon. friend last night (Mr. Gladstone) with admiration, no doubt, but with cioasiderable pain, because he appeared not only to condemn the conduit of the war, bat in the conduding portion of his speech it appeared to me that his opinions were adverse to the war, advent to the expeditiou to the Crimea, and adverse to the terms of peace, on which we are prepared to conclude the war; and yet my right hen. friend was a party to all of these things. (Chinn) I re gret that any entwinement should, since he quitted the government, have so entirely altered his opinions on those 'objects. Now, it appears that there are two &residential* Is the discussion. There are those, spin the one hand, who think we have not been sufficiently vigorous in the prosecution . of the war ; and others who wish to drive the country into pewee upon terms which I think not consistent with the honour and interests of the country. The justice sad anessity of the war have boon admitted by all exo:pt • very small portion of this home. It arose not simply from the unhappy events which caused the rupture ; but during • bag period it has been the standing policy of Russia to wean and crumble down and ultimately to appropriate Turkey. It has been openly avowed of late that such was the *ley of Peter, of Catherine, of Alexander, and of Niehaus ; it was the settled policy of Ran* which broke oat inset& • musner as to render further passiveness on our part impossible. I am not regrind, thee, to de had this war. The satin is isamenties about it. I must agree with the honourable member who beisjust spoken, that being *singed in it we are bound to may it on with vigour and energy, and to close it with • peace not only lienourable, bet that shall neompllah the purpose for whisk the war was undertakes. Why, air, that purpose is the protection of Turkey ; net amply foe any sympathy we may feel for Turkey, bet because the Wham of power in Europe—ea expressos whisk Jannis the gnat interests of the civilian world—is eoseeraed in pre venting the colossal power of Russia from 'Mending over this wide and important territory. Welt, we have been told that the war has done nothing. We are ready to admit that, begioning on a sudden, with • peace establishment, s war with • great antsgonlatie power, altar 40 years' peace, it was to be expected that there noald be in the administration of the different departments some misnames and mistakes whisk would occasion greet evils. But it buboes said we made &groat mistake in going to the Crimea. Sir, I contend that wee precisely the expedition we ought to have undertaken to bring the war to • speedy and successful conelesion. Why if we had gone to Bessarabia, dour army had entered the interior of Russia, they would have boon fight ing far away from their own communications, and from any basis of operations, far from their supplies and reinforce sesta ; and there was no point to achieve which would haeopeoduesd any denies result. We went to the Crimea, Mil lithe nip of Sebastopol, became it was in the Black Sea that the danger to Turkey priacipally lay ; and be ams, if we had sounded in taking that fortress and the den, we should have given security to Taney. That being the object, that being the blow which, when streak, would dopoiee Russia of the mean of local aggression, I say the Caere was the place to which our troops could be most advantageously sent. Now, it is said we have pat ourselves too much in the hands of Austria. I think it was sound policy to accept the good offices of Austria, to get her upon our aide, in the field, if we could, , sr, Mall events, to have her friendly concurnace in policy. , That we have accomplined. It has not suited the policy of , Austria to declare herself an active ally; bat we have her , good offices and the benefit of her nutrality, is an armed position, which has been a powerful military diversion in , ear favour. If instead of engaging to defend the Princi- , polities she had stood by, the Turks would have been obliged to keep • large army oa their frontier, and we might have been obliged to afford them military support. The convention ' between Austria and Turkey shut the door to invasion from Russia, and has enabled Omer Paths, with that gallant army which repelled the Russians on the Danube, to co operate with us in the Crimea. dine than that, the Rus non government have been obliged to keep a considerable army on the frontiers of Gslhcia, to watch Austria. It is, • therefore, untrue to say that Austria has been of no ad- , vantage to the allies. Then, would it have beer. polihe to refuse the good offices of Austria, to obtaio, if possible, the consent of Russia to the terms •ettled between the three governments? If we had totalled them, we .1 should have deserved censure and disapprobation. ' But, although negotiating at Vienn ~ we had omitted ' nothing which could possibly have been don to prosecute I the war as it no negotiations had taken place. And what ', , his been the result ? We have • Met which will blockade every Russian port in the Baltic. We have in the Black 1 I Sea a fleet equal to any envies required. An as for our 1 army, it is tree that, during the winter , it was exposed to great and lamentable sufferings, but I am happy to my ; they are now over : that army is in perfect efficiency, and ' Iprovided with everything; its health is good, its equipments I I are complete, garnished with all the materials of war; 1 the oommosariat arrangements are good, the hoe pital establishments excellent ; there is nothing ' ' omitted. (Cheers.) Oar allies are strengthened ; the French army has been reinforced; we have the Sardinian contingent, and • large Turkish army in the Crimea; we have now, I take it, not less than something like 200,000 men ; and therefore, so far from having relaxed 1 is our proparatioas for war, on account of the negotiations, ' we have done everything it was possible to do. (Cheers.) ', Now, with regard to these negotiations, I deny that our language tietw we have e s aga ed ttlituowteohrweae uncertain.tly tr ue. W he n ( h ?s u n s- ) I There has been mush criticism on the coediting* of the I negotiations. My right ken. friend said, that we had got three mien and a Wiest of four points. That is a cones anoneade of treating arithmetically a great political question; Mt emote that third pent had been the possession of Si. Petersburg, or the separation of Poland, would it be said that we should not haggle about that single point ? (Chain.) What is that point he treats so lightly ? It was *e revision of the treaty of 1841, for two porpoise.. One wee to attach more closely the existence of Turkey to the balsam of power in Europe. There is mere of apparent , thee reel value in that, for the Turkish empire has, even in font, ever since 1841, ben recognised as belonging to the European balance. Bat the second purpose was really of vane : it was to put an end to ' the prenderance of Russia in the Black Sea. Why, so po loog is Russia has, in her great harbour of Sebas topol, • powerful fleet ready to sally fortis with • large army within forty-eight hours' sail of Constantinople, Turkey is evidently exposed to a continual danger. But my right hon. Mend says it would be • humiliation to Russia to impose ea her a diminution of her navy. That might be said of any audition by which • power binds itself net to do that which it would otherwise have • right to do. But if she be sincere is her declarations. it is so humiliation to Russia. (Hear, Mar.) It is said there will be danger to Runt.; that Turkey may bring • large fleet up through the Bosphorus. It Is the first time I ever heard of the wolf requiring security against the aggressions of the iamb. (A laugh.) The idea of Russia needing security ionise an attack from Turkey is merely fanciful. We are told the best security would be to open the straits to fleets of alt nations. Then you would 'zoom the Sultan to have incoming before his palace windows • hostile fires at any time. Again, Russia has said that the Sultan might call in the filets of his allies to assist him when threatened with danger. Thank you for nothing. I say to Rossia, that is a right Inherent in the Sultan as an lode pathlat sovereigs. (Chows.) It is • mockery to ray that, whatever be stipulated by the treaty of 1841, be has not the power of doing so, without any eneession by Russia. But we are content , plating. not a period when England and France with war , establishments, and Soma equal to core with the Runtime in the Black Sea sad Baltic, but in peace, when our fleet,, sod armies shall have bon reduced, while Russia, pursoie , bre nem system, may keep an enormous standing army wad HIM, and be strong at the point *hate England and Fn. ' s," may be weak, or from which they are far away, so thee eine the Sultan is attacked no assistance can roan him). That very argument of the Rusin plenipotentiary shows tioameat R o.y usei sati s ts co p a roposaap te , mp w l i a h tes ewnag agg lmb rest ead i es o rai n t . Fhiraue. W it o h : y o:fa. l si:et:iti ve :t r riA i sc e u. m sotn be arintai r d. mat were swelled to an eaormous and f angerous Prussia, and Rana should reduce them to the y 4ase 'stab! .ishisent. It was agreed to by Prussia; but Russia said, " We think your tempos,' excel tent; that states have disproportionate and . ;‘ ,; flons armies 44 foot ; but it doss not apply to Russia—flf we bare only 800,000 men, which is oar regular perm establishment. " (Hear, hear.) So it is with her fleets—thirty sail of the line la' the Baltic, and twenty or thirty in the Black Sea. And HOUSE OF LORDS.—FSIDAT, MAT 25. The Loan Cetheemhnoa took his seat es the woolsack at five sislack. THS VIENNA CONFERENCE& Berl GREY, is • apologia of considerable Meath, moved the following reeolutioes: "That sa bumble address be remote& to hoe Majesty, " To thank her Majesty for bars' ordered the protocols of rte recent negotiations at Vises to be kid before us ; !: To inform her Majesty that this home deeply deplores thi filar of the attempt to put an end by these mmotiatioss to Me s densities of the war la which the coustry ie sow engaged; and, 1 To impress mir opiui en that the proposals of Ruda were seed as to area fair prospect of concluding a pesos by which all the original objects of the war might have bees pined, and by which her Majesty and her allies might have obtained all the advantages which can reasonably be dee minded from Russia." The Earl of CLARENDON thought that his noble frieed bad no necessity to epologies for his motion, for nose of their lordship would doubt that his opinions were honest sof streightforward, and be bad no doubt that hi noble Mend thought that he had a public semis to performs ; but, Me the ether hand, he might be permitted to my that the maim was to him a matter of deep regret, as well in its aim as in the mama in which his noble friend had sup ported it. His noble friend, in his elaborate, skilful, but he theeght unsuccessful speech, had laboured to prom that the war was neither a just nor necessary war. Re had condemned the policy of the war, and the manner Is which the war had been conducted and the negotiations else had bees conducted, and he had condemned the policy ef reducing Russian preponderance in the Black Sea, sad he thought that her offers ought to have been accepted, awl ter three hours and a half he had spokes is uninterrupted admiration of the policy of Russia ; and in every word that he had said was a °ensure on her Majesty's govegag sad also, let it he borne in mind, on the senaggli Trench government. (Hear, hear.) And the spas& ebb noble trend, with all the authority of the name be log% and his weight in his cams, attached to it, would be pub. lished by the partisans or Russia is every news• paper" possible, And circulated throughout Europe --(hear, bear) —without soy reply to it ; and he said, that his noble friend bad rendered signal estvioe to the Emperor of Rorie that night `- (clean)—anti as • far as depended on his noble friend, he hid dies his u 6. mike to encourage the Emperor of Raab to reit emir &mice with threw demands which England, end Fringe, and Austria, considered just, end, as far as in him lay. In would represent us to the world as in a state of divisios and weakness. Then, however, he thought he would be diet' paired, for he trusted the house would reject hie nesdios ter a large majority—(ebeers)—cad join with the piewintoat In the negative with which it was proposed to mot that motion, and thos prove to Russia that their opialess had undergone no change. (Chairs.) He believed that the people of England were as fully aware as his noble frilled of the inestimable blessings of peace, and were as aeziose for it as he was—(hear, hear)—and that there was no wish for war for its own sake. (Cheers.) He did thick that the people were not labouring ander the want of appreciation which his noble friend supposed, for the apeesbes that had been made, the documents that had been published by this and other governments, and the very able ma in which the matter had been treated in all it) phases la the public papers, had exposed the matter, and hs4 given ample materials for Joining an opinion as to the war. To their objects the government bad adhered, and they had no intention to rause the nationalities or to adopt They adhered their objects, which were to protect Turkey and to tree Europe from the weight of danger which it had been adder—(cheep)—sod they thought that those objects would he secured by annulling all those treaties which had been often productive of evil; to cause the protection of Rawls in the Principalities to male, sod to remove all the obstacles to a free navigation of the Danube, and to unite Turkey with the system of European equilibrium, sot by preventing Russia from having any exclusive right of loses rents in Turkey. If such a peace were honestly accepted and honestly aeted on, it woe!d, be believed, secure the oblects which they bad in view. His noble friend had dwelt on these things, being, as he said, humiliating to Russia; but Russia had accepted the principles on whisk to rest for peon—(cheers)—and y were supported by Austria, who had; used iht same laaguage as themselves, and recom mended the terme with the same caroostness as France and England had, and therefore time could be 'whim contrary to the dignity of Russia in the terms. His noble friend had said that even if they had obtained all these things they would have afforded no security. His noble friend knew the value of treaties, which must always de• peed on the good faith with which they were entered into and misted on. and there was no treaty which could protect Talkey against a powerful maighbour if that neighbour were determined to act unscrupulously against her ; but that was no »aeon why they should not guard Turkey as much as possible from the danger with which she was threatened. Abet had taken place before Sebastopol reflected high honour on the Reiman troois, bet it showed that the stores which had been accumulated there were meant to threaten Turkey, and that showed the danger to which Turkey bad been exposed, and Europe mestria st the same time ; and it was not only there, but everywhere throughout Russia, the: found the same accumul dims of military atone and preparations fur defence, which showed that she expected that the position she was occupying would sooner or later excite the alarm of all Europe. His friend had criticised what had men said by Lord John Russell, bet he had not borne to mind that the preponderating in fluence of Russia in the Bleck Sea did not cow exist. Tits yogis aco they were told that if Behind and France enteied the Black Sea, Remits would consider it as r, Caplet bells; and Doe their fiesta sweep its waters, and there was no Russian left there. They did not wish to inseam terms to humble Russia, but to secure Turkey. But Russia said she would not submit to what she considered interfereom with her tights in her own dotnintons, and that she had a right to accumulate all Kinds of stores to threaten Turk-y. Dios that principle confidence could not be restored. Hie noble (fiend had eel. tiled torte difficulty which the Res* Sian fleet would have in ring toConstestanopleibutthey knew that 16,000 men had been shipped very speedily en board the Russian fleet without the knowledge at the time of Estop, and it was quite perathl• that a fatal blow might thus be given to Turkey, for the arrival of so large a forme weld produce the mat disastrous effects in any ireinfitMa pity, mon especially when triers would be an appal the treolgioos sympathies of the most adieu, widow, and disaffected of the population. And it cam the Turkish Casey were overthrown, it could not be restored. Bat Rued' affirmed that her li , et would be wanted for the per Medea of Turkey. Could Russia pretend that there was any dupe to Turkey from the maritime power, or that they hid any object in going into the Black Sea against Turkey, and that Russian interference would be required ? (Cheers.) But Russia proposed te open the Biplanes, and that she should have free accese to the Kediterraaese, no as to aim her an opportunity to disturb the population of the Greek islands; and she also proposed—which his noble friend emeidered an ample main pawed—that Turkey should he at liberty to call into the Slosh Sea the allies wh ber security was in danger. Bat the seceritv of Turkey would be always in danger from eaelk • lea Russia proposes to keep, mad the allies would usher be able to say that her call, for amiataam should not belistened to ; and the erult would be that, as a esters for it the costly sacrifices which had been made by England and Fromm, they would indirectly bind themselves by treaty to lam • large force is the Mediterranean ready at call, and would have to ester 101 l securities for Russia keep leg the peace, while Russia wonid have no corresponding obligation. (Cheers.) Bet eves then the allied fiesta would not be able to interfere is time. Russia would be master of her own policy and of her own time; she would not under take awe attack, perhaps, till there had been a large increase other Baltic fleet, and then we might feel it very unsafe to beep our fleet in the Mtditerr , when it might be wanted to protect our own shores. Russia still claimed her right to be a standing menace to Turkey and to Berope, and she had refused to j .tie tee other powers is guarantee ing the independence of Turkey, nod she had no right to gay that by the concessions she had made with respect to German interests on the Danube and in the Principaliti.s, she had fulii.led her obligations to European intonate. She knew that such • large Bert was toeless to her in the Black Sea, except to gam her own end* in refers, so to Turkey. The Russian p es t i n the Black Sea wa. iafellible, and It was on that account that the other p men were interested in having is reduced. If Runs did net intend to act in good faiths she bed no right to complain that the maritime powers refuse to enter into terms for the eeleation of hostilities. Ho could not state the precise terms that would be He had, however, endeartured to explain the views Ifejesoy's government on tr.e subject, and to point out what were the interests they wished to protect, and what the dangers against which they wished to guard. He could only i add, that if it were their good fortune to re-tore to this aniutry the blessings of 1. cue.', he trusted it would be suet a peace as would merit the approbation of their lordships sad of the country at large. (Cheers ) The Earl of MALMESbURY said so completely did he mealier this question removed trom party politics—(cheers from the ministerial benco)—that he simile. at almost any inconvenience, have attended to record his vote against the address moved by the noble sari The Duke of ARGYLL asid the ar g u ment e l his noble friend (Karl Grey) appeared to be intended to esseinee tiY country and Europe that after the wax lile 411.11Yealle they had heels adding soestaall 1110 dillimegidat that chile Romig had he-n eighth • isoolliassey ma candid spirit, they hid been ps 'versant and astetina one. He amid imam es me eggement ism.re erna aeons or moss unjust. He did not know whether his noble freed mile merit to cow, • tl'l4 ? Rol OREY—Cutki n ty •a t. The Doke of ARGYLL said be was glad to bees elicits , that answer; but Ida able irt-ad's speech would convey Earl GREY, in reply, oorneted some misrepresentations which he said had been made of his stattamats in lam clueing the motion. He thought the four petals were rift sonable point% but he contended that the oonstramion put by Rusemos the third point ought to have been estertainsd. Zhu war, he matioaded, had arisen from a etimmilevetand lag between Russia and the Western Pewees, which might have helm removed by a few words. He allowed that Rama was he wrong ia the occupatiod ce of the Priacipalitlia, and that in t course she had sin punned, up to the Vienna oon fermate, she was greatly to blame. His motion had only been mu by those arguments which were always employed spinet the opponents of a popular war. In answer to this he would merely say, that it wee partible for a action to be wrong as well as en individual. Surely, they were not to be told that, :in a free country, those who disapproved of the war were not to Wise their voices against it, lest they should give enconsagessut to the enemy. If this were so, a free matescoutry would be in a worse position than the utter des potism. He did not regret that he had brought forward the motion; but he would not take the advice of Lord Derby to divide the house. He would rather take the advice of those who recommended him to withdraw it, knowing that it would be supported by a very limited cumber; for more than one who would have supported it were unavoidably absent. (Laughter.) The motion was then withdrawn. ROYAL ASSENT. The Lord Chancellor, the Duke of Argyll, and the Earl of Harrowby, having t aken their seats as lords Commis- Miners, the royal sweat was gives to the following bills : Income tea Bill, Basis, Daum Bill, Cartons Duties Biil, sad a great number of private bill.. REGISTRATION OF BATHS, &a (SCOTLAND) BILL. This ►!11 was read a th rd unto and pissed. Their lordships adjourned at a quarter to owe. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FAIDAY. lein 25. The SPRALIe took the &air at four &sleek. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The following bills were mad a third time and passed Caledonian Railway; Carmarthen and Cardlgaißsilway Swaim and Trustee Society ; National Loan Fund Life Assurance Satiety ; Peterborough sod Wellingborough. road ; Wigan and Prestos Roads, North of Yarrow; and Sligo Gas ; Bills. The following bills were considered and ordered to be read a third time ;—Bolton and Nightingales . ..road hurgh end Glasgow Railway ; Folkestooe Improvement ; Lindon and South-Western Railway; Nottingham and Newhaven toed , Bills. The following bills were read a second time :—Airdrie Rural District Police (No. 2) ; New River Company and Trustees of the River lAO (No. 2) ; Bills. PUBLIC BUSINESS. GUANO. In reply to Sir J. SHILLIT, Mr. liiOlJV ERIE said that additional deposits of guano had been discovered near the Sandwich Islands. SOLDIERS FROM THE CRIMEA. Mr. OLIVEIRA asked the Uuder-Seentary for War, whether soldiers who had served in the Crimea, and were invalided at Scutari, and whose families were then provided for at home, had, since their return home to hospital, been subjected to a deduction of 104. per day from their pay, and that- families left destitute ? Mr. PEEL said that the usual deductions had been made from the pay of men who were on furlough. MEDALS FOR WOUNDED SOLDIERS. Mr. STAFFORD wished to know whether arrangements bad been made for forwarding medals to wounded soldiers who had returned from the war and were residing with their friends ? Mr. PEEL said that 2,000 were in the hands of Hunt I and Roskeli,which would be delivered when finished to three soldien who had not been present at the distribution. 8.000 would be sent fortnightly to the Crimes, and those soldiers I who had received their medals without clasps would receive gertificates which would entitle them to have their clasps atm hed la the other clues mentioned the manufacturers would transmit them to the respective homes of the soldiers. THE LATE CONFERENCES. Mr. ROBBUCH—I wish to ask the First Lord of the Treasury a qaestion. There is • report current out of doors that the conferences at Vienna have been renewed ; I wish to know whether government has received any refor mation to that effect? Lord PALMERSTON —No eonferenee has been held since the last reeotded in the papers, and before any fresh conferences can be held her Majesty's minister at Vim's& must receive authority tram here to attend them. (Laughter) Mr. M. GIBSON—The noble lord's answer to the bon. member for Sheffield was not andentored here. (Laughter.) The noble lord stated • few days siace that the conferences Isere not finally closed, only suspended, and that Lord Westmoreland retained fall powers. (Hear, hear.) I wish On know therefore from the noble lord whether those powers have been withdraws, and, if so, when ? I Lord PALMERSTON—The powers have not been with ' drawn. Lord Westmoreland still possesses them, but it is one thing to prawn powers and another to surmise them in circumstances not considered favourable by the government at home. (Load laughter.) ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. The motion wee put and agreed to, that the house at its rising adjourn to Monday, the 4th of June. THE ADJOURNED DEBATE. Mr. WHITESIDE, in resuming the adjourned debate, mid that the beet vindication of the motion of his right hoe. irked was to be found in the speeches of the noble lord the member for London and of the right hon. member for Ozford Unieenity--speeches which, like the oration for Hilo. would have been elaborately prepared, but never delivered bad it not been for his right hon. friend's motion. 'laving listened to these two able speeches, he would ask whether soy assemblage of reasonable men could doubt lre justice of the charge of his right honour able friend, that there was ambiguity of language and uncertainty of purpose in the conduct of the pre sent and late governments. He could Inertly help asking Ste aohle lord and the tight hoe. gent eman whether they had seer met in the cabinet to discuss the question of peeve or war—(cheers)—and if they had were their opinions at the time as ocatradictorr as those which had been ex pressed by them on the previous evening. (Hear, hear.) Mr. LOWE moved an amendment enunciating the opi nion that the refusal of Russia to limit the strength of the Black Sea Seat had ezhausted the means of owning to an agreement on the third point of the negotiations. Mr. Disraeli's resolutions were opposed by Mr. CAI LIT, and defended by Lard Sys. ILST. Mr. ROONDIILL PAMIRS advocated peace by negotiation. Mr. LATARD esesebaded a speech, in which he reviewed the whole course bosh of the war and of the nenotiations, by some remarks upon the speech of Lord Joss ittrassu, ..0 the previous evening. The hon. member supported Mr. ameadessaL Lord PALSIBESTON—The hon. gentleman who has just sat down has said most truly that this is a great country at present is • great emergency, and that they, ediatsy would follow any leader who would lead it to wagons, and to glory. Is spite of what has been 'aid by the hon. member, in ski!e of what boa been said by any of hose who in this house or out of it Bad fault with the coriductef the government, I will venture to airs thy trine who see now entrasted with the conduct of the asks of the country will, as fez as human power will suable thew what um* _ythroold Turkey feel if with England France .thdersiale :be* thavies to the poses establishment, a large Russian foreeirere kept sham within debt of the Turkish oldie', ready* eSpeat, more skilfelly, the operations which Neetchikoff thmatened and afarwarde attempted T You may depend upon it, Russia would not again commit the mistake of invading Turkey on the land side, exposing her array to the eliesate, the march. and to resistance on the Danube. She has a much shorter cut from Sebastopol is Constantinople, and an easier plan of operations. (Heas, hear.) For bee owe defence, the Black Su lest W prove d to be unnecessary, arid there is no pretence for her refusing te give to limps and Turkey that pledge of honest inten tions, and of a friendly disposition, which we require, is ceasseting to its limitation. (liear hear.) But the hon gentleman (Mr. Layerd) says t he four points fall short of what was necessary. Nothing could be more unbecoming thee foe government to hold out en pectatius beyond what they see their way to accomplish. We are engaged in a great operation ; we trust and hope we shall be succusful, and we think it will lead to attaining these conditions which England and France have, in the present state of the contest, a right to demand. Bet if, unfortunately, the war should take a wider range—if other powers take • part in the contest, we cannot tie oar hands by any such conditions—and England and France have recorded that they are at liberty to make any addi tional demands which by the success of the war may be justified, and which they regard as necessary for the general interests of Europe. But it would nut be worthy of a great country, when eagaged in a war of such importance as this, and in a clause which is so clear and definite, to hold eat expectations by which any partite may be misled, so u is commit themselves in a manner fatal to their own interests. Our duty is to confine ourselves to that in which we see one way. And Ido say that we do ate our way to soccer in the °pastime in which we are now engaged; and la spits of all the difficulties we have had to surmount, and of all the mischances which have happened, I think we hue turned the point; I think we are now in a condition Is which—the government with whom we are oen toadies having refused those fair conditions which, in conjunction with France, and with the ap probation of Austria, we have proposed —we may feel confident that we can carry on our operations of war with a fair prospect of that success which England and France are bound to obtain. I say we are bound to obtain, bemuse it le impossible for England and France, when en• gaged in a peat contest, to fail in accomplishing their object. It would not be simply the disappointment of a particular object in view, it would be the abnegation of the proud position they hold, because we should sink into the condi tion of a 'second rate power. (Hear.) The right hon. gentleman can eloquently descant on the calamities of war ; no man will be insensible to them. But I say there are things worse than war ; dishonour to a country is worse than war —(cheen) ;—I do not mean worse merely in opinion, but it brings on even physical afflictions greater than those ' of the temporary exertions made in wow. (Cheers.) I say, therefore, the party who would induce this country to abandon the contest upon unsatisfactory and insufficient grounds, if their opinion prevailed, would be fatal to the beet interests of their eeuntry. (Cheers.) The house is called upon to pronounce its opinion tonight upon two great sad important question'. First, upon the existence of a ministry, which some men may think of slight importance. If it depended upon a sugar bill, a timber bill, or any matter of mere party conflict, I should say parliament might deal with it on simply personal grounds, and with out regarding the corsequences. But there is a far greater question, which is—the policy of the country, its position among the nations of the world, our alliances with foreign governments—almost the future reputation, the honour, and the d t interests of England. (Cheers.) Ob viously the object of the right honourable gen tleman is, that this house should pronouns the government incompetent, and remove us from ease. Well, then, who is to succeed us ? (Cheers.) We are told we have sot shown administrative ability, and are not united. I deny both the one and the other. (Cheers.) Is it to the opposite ranks we are to look for that ability and unanimity? The Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod here cams in and' summoned the Speaker to receive the royal assent to certain bill The Sesuntit Laying been absent nearly 20 minutes, returned, and read the titles of the bills to which the rwya went had been gee. n. Lord PALMERSTON again rose, and was greeted with loud cheers. He said—l have certainly some reason to complain of t`te anticipatory censure of the other house, who have so prematurely inflicted the rod. (Laughter.) I was proceeding to say tbait the question which the right hon. gthtleman had submitted was an invitation to the hoes. to determine that the present government did not possess the coafidence and was unworthy of the support of the country, and the inference naturally drawn was that some other pasty is entitled to the coufidence of the house and the country. Now I say that one reproach made against those who now form the government, is • supposed want of unity of opinion on matters of urgent importance, domestic and !bulge, and a disinclination , o enter upon the tuition of administrative reform. I was proceeding to ask the house whether they saw on the benches opposite any granter unity of opinion than is observable on this aide of th e 1 It you take, for example, domestic affairs, I ask yes whether on the question it the people are to be educated, any government that is to be firmed from the benches opposite is to be guided by the right hon. gentleman the member for Droitwich, sr by the right honourable gentle man the nenther for Oafordshire;? (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) If thet proposer' government are to be judged by their foreign policy, I ash whether they are to be judged by the declarations ot the hon. and learned member for Ennis killen, or by those of the noble lord the member for Lynn, —whether, in fan, according to those two statements, the war is to be prosecuted with vigour, or peace is to be pur chased at any price ? With regard to administrative capa city, I may remind the house that it was not long ago that the head of that party bad a commission to form an admiaie tration. That noble lard, putting the good of his country above all personal end selfish feeling, greatly to his credit cunfeesed that in his own party he had not the ele ments out of which he could form a government. (Hear.) What has happened since I don't know that has induced the members of that party to present themselves with more confidi ace to conduct the affairs of the country. (Hear.) . I leave it to the house and to the country to determine wherein consists the preference between them and ns. (Hear, bear.) This I will admit in their favour, that judging from the speech of the right hon. gentleman, the member for Buckieghernshire, and judging from the speech if the hon. and learned member for Enniskillen, to gether with that of the noble lord the member fur Lynn, —judging, I say, from their speeches and the resolutions now biters the home, I am bound to say that if this house and the country were to transfer the government into their hands, they would have • pledge that they would carry on the war with as much vigour, and for the same objects as wears now coot/n(1313g tor. (Civets.) I see no difference between them end us on these points, and therefore the ap peal they make to the house to transfer power from us to them in not founded upon any censure of the general policy We have thought it our duty to adopt, but upon the presumed ides that they would carry on the war with more force—fur this it is impossible to conceal, for the greater part of their resolution I. • vote of approbation of the government I—(" Oh, ob," and laughter)—yes, assuring the crown of their support of the nano urns which the government have to 'the best of their judgment carried out. There is one alter native which is o;.en to the house. They may choose , to transfer the government from those who sit here, to those who sit on the opposite benches. There is another choice presented by the right hon. gentle , man the member for the University of Oxford, and those 1 who think with him, who would be ready to accept peace at , limy price, who would accept peace upon conditions which I i and the country thirst dishonourable—dishonourable to the , country and dangerous to its future interests. (Cheers.) , Well then I venture to say, without any disrespect to those gentlemen, for many of whom indeed I have the greatest , possible respect, and whose talents are well known to the house and to the country, that if a government were now , formed by them on those principles there is not , one of them, who would be re-elected by their coned- tunnies. (Loud cheers.) Now the choice lies between the two sides of the house, end I contend that we, 1 to whom the government has for some time past , been committed, have dune nothing to forfeit the good 1 oinion with which we were honoured, for we have tikes I I e v ery measure to prosecute with vigour a WOW WWieb WO and the country believed to be necessary and just. I think the result will show that we have cot been undeserving of the , sonfidence which was reposed in us on our advent to power, , and that we shell be able to realise the expectations of those , who are looking with unity to the result. of the war. (Clieers.) Tke late of battles is in the buds of a higher I power. It is sufficient that men upon whom such.respon bilities rest should do all its their power to obtain I sumer. That we have duet, and all I can say is this, that it we succeed we shall Wive the satisfaction of knowing that our success has bees beoagkt about by perseverance and determination, by the exertions we have wade to secure it, without proclaiming day after day the steps we have taken for its ascompliehment. (Cheers.) Whatever may be the decision of this night wh may be the relative strength of partieein this house, I am convinced that the country is in earnest shoat the war, and I am satisfied that the people of England will give their support to any goverament that will in this respect endeavour to execute the will of the British nation. As tar as the country generally is concerned 1 I ios.k with comparative indiffi-rence to the result of , this motion. I know that the will of the country must be obeyed, and 1 know that that will is Oa, Ragland having wpAoged in a just and necessary war in concert with her gr .at ally and neighbour, France, it must and shall succeed - -(loud cheers)—and tut this country will IIII O ,T any government to be false to the trust Mated in them. We nave out shrunk from that duty, and I am persuaded that ulterior events will show that we can claim from the house and the country a verdict of approbation for the manner in which we base performethe great duties which have de d upon u e, while we ehan at the same time be able to show that it is without justice that we have been accused of slidukieg from obligations the falfilmeat of which the eseetry has expected at our hands. Mr. DISRAELI, in reply, said that if he wanted aey Pas tification for the course he had pursued, it might be found in the speech which the noble lord had just nelitered. Was that the minister who, on last Monday evening, evaded every inquiry, and to every question put to him—he e..eti, not any Goal 01, for that would be unparliamentary—indeed the phrase rose to hie lips in the beat of debate—but who used every eff wt in order that the Rouse of Commons I should not have any hint from hi. as to the resolutions the I government had taken en the subject of the war? Was that the minister who, on Monday last, refuted to sanction the measure of the right hon. geotlemao, the member for Kau- HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MAT 23. PROSECUTION OF THE WAIt. Owen. rad, fur resundi g adjourned Debate on Ameudmintsr opay to be made to Lluirarion (2iiti May), '• that this House cannot journ for the rams without expreir.ing its dim atimfactiol with L t. ambiguous langnave and uncertain conduct of her Mejesty's Moat, in reference to the great guard .n of Pesos or War; aae ear there circumstance', theta itoure feels it a duty to ( ke g ,. 11.4 it Vo l a cce of the tin W ul as, gl uali e l ve he r r Y M ' a u jes "n ty rt ahail,t r eon M y e nua ie'a u 7 „ i : - i ii t r ef ° • n rll l ies, obtain fur this country a its and bon.nnabie pay er -(Mr. Disraeli :)--And which Amendineet wee, to leave out f" s ' s e the nest word •' douse" to Use word feels," in hue 6, in order - re Insert the words "having seen with regret that the Confereatet rj/ Timm have not led to a termination of her Maim"- (n, p sis/ Issifig,)--iaste.d thereof : -Question 'gem Prolkeed. 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Was that the minister wh o for weeks, and swaths, had been tbe object of suspicion and &Wrest to the country—of wbem, and of whose government, it was believed that they had no sincere iatentios of carryieg on the war ? All classes end parties in that heave had been desirous for inquiry— I a fact which wee sufficiently proved by the chesseeereff ' the amendments proposed. These who believed that pow might have been obtained on the terms proposed were SF presented by an amendment. Those who believed dl it the negotiations had not been satisfactorily conducted boll their amendments. liven those who bad oenibisseso be the government, or rather those who wished minim Gem. fidencs in the government, had an smear set—in feet, I every amendment that had been proposed was • complete l justification of the resolution he bad proposed. Whatever might be the result of that resolution it would, at all events, hays elicited this great good—that the house had at last ob , tsined something definite from her Majesty's government. The noble lord bad carefully avoided any expression of opi nion as to the future, while he had brilliantly illuminated all the events of the put. This, however, was perfectly I clear, that in the speech delivered that evening belied made statements perfectly inconsistent with all the intimations extracted from him on previous days. He now stood fur -1 ward as a war minister, declaring he would be satisfied with nothing short of achievements I the obtaining of which was perfectly inconsistent I with the negotiations he had been carrying on. Many complaints had been made by the supporters of the government as to the frame of the resolution now before the house. It had been said that its terms were vague, and that it bound those who proposed it to no particular course. The house would, upon reflection, feel that it would have been most improper if be bad attempted to interfere in the motion with the prerogative of the crown as to the manner in which the war was to be carried on, or peace was to be negotiated for. If be had declared what were the objects upon which the war was to have been carried on, he would like to know how the noble lord the member for the City of London, who had still some respect for the constitution — (laughter)—would have erceised such a motion? (Hear, bear.) . He contended that the terms of the motion which he hail proposed were adapted to the end which he, and those with whom be acted, had in view. (Hear.) The resolution was one which every member who wished to Put an end to the feeling of distrust prevalent in this king dom ought to support. (Hear, hear.) If the noble lard at the head of the government considered this motion as equivalent to a vote of want of confidence why did he not instruct one of his friends to pro pose a vote of confidence to the house ? (Cheers.) As it was, in how absurd a position bad the First Lord of the Treasury placed, not only the house, but the ministry also. Which one of the amendments did her Majesty's government support—(cheers)—for not one of town could be considered as amounting to a vote of confidence. (Hear.) Why, woo not some such thing as a vote of confidence proposed at the meeting ? But how was such assembly formed ? Fore most amongst its members were the right hon. members below the gangway. But did those right hon. members know that at the very time when they , were BO paraded before the resembled supporters of the ' noble lord, their parliamentary days were num bered—(laughter)—and they were reckoned as dead men in the books of the humbler yet more useful members of the government. (Laughter.) The noble :ord (Palmerston) had pointed out to the bombe the dangers of allowing a ministry to be formed in which two of its mem bers would entertain different views upon the subject of education. The noble lord might well make that remark, I for his was a strong government, and its supporters were well united. (Laughter.) Upon the question of church rases bow unanimous were they. With whet similarity of opinion they regarded the question of the ballot. (Loud laughter.) Ooly one thing was necessary to test their unanimity, which was that the noble lord the member for London, when he had recovered from his diplomatic labours — (laughter)—should introduce a reform bill, or some trifle of that kind. (Laughter and " divide.") He would willingly et once go to a division, but there was one other point upon which, in justice to himself, he must say a few words. The member for Kiddermister,bad noticed his remarks upon the noble lord who bad acted as plenipotentiary at Vienne, mid had said that the criticism was only made because the noble lord was a member of that house. He admitted that he would rather criticise the conduct of a gentleman who was present, than of one who was tient, but could the hon. mei:lusher deny that it wu not only tbe right, but the duty of a member 4.1 that house to consider the conduct of say and every Fervent of the crown whom he considered to have failed in his duty ? The noble lord himself had said that in his observe' ions upon this head he (Mr. Disraeli) had degraded the debate. lie had degraded the debate upon a question of peace or war, by speaking his opioioa of the kcompetency of the plenipoten tiary who was sent to negotiate for peace! Whether he had done so or not he would not then pause to consider, but leave it to the house and to the country to decide. Whatever he had done, he had at least done this—whether he had de , graded the debate or not—he had endeavoured to prevent the noble lord from uegreding his country. (Loud cheers.) The house then divided on Mr. Disraeli's motion. Ayes Noes PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. Majority moment of the numbers was received by loud The moms.— cheering. Mr. LOWE then moved, in Sir Fractal' Baring's amend ment, after the words "regret that," to insert the words " owing to the refusal of Ramis to restrict the strength of her navy in the Black Sea;" and after "declare, that," to insert the words "the means of miming to agreement on the third basis of negotiation being by that refussl exhausted." Mr. MILNER GIBSON moved that the debate be adjourned until Monday week. rd GODERICH deprecated any postponement. Lord PALMERbTON thought that parliament had now had an opportunity of expressing its opinion, and he might now say that he should have no objection to accede to the amendment of the boa. member for Kiderminster. Sir J. GRAHAM thought that the decision they had come to did not decide the question of the war, but referred only to the confidence of the house in the administration ; and he thought that to change the administration now was not advisable; sod therefore he had voted against the mo tion. Ile thought now that they ought to have an oppor tunity of stating to the British people their opinion on the war, and their reasons for it. That opportunity had not been afforded tnem, and therefore he thought that it was reasonable to adjourn. (Cries of "divide.") He might state that the opinion of the noble lord (the member for London) would lead to an interminable, or at least • 30 years' war. He was bound to say that the speech of the right hon. member for Bucks did lay down principles that seemed to him to afford a fairer prospect of a settlement than that of the government. (Loud cheers.) It would be superfluous now to enter on the question of why the Crimea was at tacked; but he was prepared to discuss at the proper time what had been done ; but as to the future, the principle of the right hon. member for Bucks gave a hope of peace. Lord J. RUSSELL most utterly and entirely deny the meaning that had been extracted from his words, or from those of his right bon. friend. He had said siothiug of nationalities—(cheers)—and neither with regard to aggrea sion nor to nationalities had he expressed any opinion. As to what the right hon. gentleman had said, you could not carry on negotiations and war at the same time, and he said that negotiations should be broken off. How that would lead to peace he could not see. Several of the amendments agreed in this, that the house would give every support to her Majesty, and as this question had been raised, be thought they should now agree to some declaration which should contain those words. (Cheers.) The hon. member fur Manchester oeclined at this late hour to go on with his amendment, and he should say, if the house would agree to words which contained the last declaration, the motion of the hon. member could be brought forward on an early day. Mr. DISRAELI congratulated the supporters of the noble lord on the majority, and that having been obtained, the noble lord had risen to recant his opinions. (Cheers.) They yesterday bad a picture of the power and policy of Russia, which almost equalled the pencil of a Dante, and no sooner was a majority obtained—a majority which had ex pressed no confidence in the government—(a laugh)—than the noble lord rose and withdrew that powerful description which had influenced the debate, and now he was told that this was the government that ssu not ambiguous. (Cheers.) Now the noble lord wanted to pass without discussion a una nimous vote of this house as to carrying on the war, holding the opinion one night that it is not expedient—(cheers) — then next night these profound statesmen found there ought to be a unanimous Tom. (Cheers.) He was against any farther disronnon at the present moment. He knew when he pririosed his motion that there was not proper time to I Wimps it. (Divide. divide.) Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT thought it was just and fright that on such a question they should exerms au opinion. Bet now they had come to a deeision as between two parties Is the house, and now they had to consider the question as it affeckd the interests of England, as the most momentous gensequences might result from it. He was prepared at amee, and without discussion, to come to come to a decision. Is point of fact, the (maims was whether they should enter or not upon a new war; and he would appeal to the go vernment and the house whether that was a question to deride at aqu before three is the morning ? (Cheers.) adjourn P a t : f E e re :A win li: a u E ord tiairvs otei tf odmon imttbaaße t ka o t ißie t to e h n nwo :ad.:s precedent d ? , Mr. ROEBUCK asked whether the house could not e r. (Laughter.) ha f t o ase r r Le ho T A us h i e ts e rincind tors i agreed to the aajournment, and the debate was adjourned accordingly. The Personal Estates of Intestates Bill and the Militia Bill (No. 2) were read a third time and paned. The other orders having been disposed of, NEW WRIT. A new writ was ordered for Bath, in room of Mr. Phion, who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. LIMITED LIABILITY. Mr. BOUVERIE brought in a bill on this subjeot,which was r.ad a first time. The house adjourned at ten minutes past 3, till Monday week. The Royal Agricultural Society have issued the programme of their intended proceedings at Culis:e, com mencing July 19. On Wednesday next the annual meeting of the various delegates of the Yorkshire Union of Mechsaic' 1n s tit u tes will be held at York. An unusua ll y large gather tug is expected. The union now comprises 130 i nstitutions, having 36 libraries and reading rooms, contataing upwards of 260,000 volumes. The entire aggregate cl m embers n eeds 200,000. Lord Guticrich, MT., will preside ever the public meeting in the evening. The Freemasons of Oxford intend to give, on the evening of June 19, a grand ball to commemorate the pre• since of the Chancellor (the Earl of Derby), who will nut the University for the purpose of laying the foanclation stone of the new Museum. The notorious Tom Provis, alias " Sir Richsrd thigh Smyth, Bart.," whose impudent attempt to grail ) ' h. Smyth property at Stapleton and Ashton must be reales. bored, died on Sunday afternoon in the infirmity of Dirt• moor peleon. He bat' been ailing for sums time. oa The Cardiff Guardian has the following : m t Wednesday last, the 23rd instant, a poor MOl2llll, the vita of Patrick Sanders, a dock labourer , living at N o . 11, &C ,. street, in this man, gave birth to four children (dstigottn)i the whole of whom are now doing well and likely to ha In a farewell address to his late constituents, Ir. Phinn intimates that he has withdrawn entirely from P3l. tical life. The Steam Coal Collieries' Association at Nev' castle.upon-Tyne offer a premium of 5001. for the imams of an effectual method for preventing the emission of smeti from the chimneys of multitubuler boilers, upon cenas conditions. Colonel Rawlineon has arrived in London from Bagdad, having brought to a close the ezcavatioss , Assyria and Babylonia whioh he hu been superistesem for the last three years on behalf of the Trustees of Ms British Museum. 7001. has been paid over to the Wellington College 1 from the proceeds of the late amateur dramatic perforuses et Drury-lane Theatre. 501. has been contributed to 0' 1 hod for Mr. Angus Reach. BILLS OP EXCHANGE AND PROMISSORY NOD. .—Yesterday, the bill, so amended by the select cemmet, esn Bills of Exchange and Pr missory Notes, was priont Is now contains eight clauses, of which four bare bees by the committee. It is to facilitate remedies and toot , unt frivolous defences. Under this act if leave is e mote Seined to appear, judgment may be signed. Oa merits !:, a shown, leave to be granted to a d ete dent to a ppear. Lid 4 *is act iudgment can be signed in a few days. H OP INTELLIGENCE.—The hops in the neighbeer• hood of Maidstone, although exceedingly inch ward, Po'''! well. The bine is strong and healthy, and tying hair', 1 rally commenced. At Brenehley, the bine is reported t"' 1 growing fast, independent of the cold weather. Fl lie brought to a close. Similarly favour ble accountsr 1 band from Watcringbury. lu :he Cranbrook district t,..' plant looks yellow and sickly a t places. In °them tb, prospect is favourable, the stock being well set, the 1 0 ! throwing out plenty Thee A few warm ds)s, lied g, will then be g i. is a little flee, bat nut s ati,e ... , ' to notice. Poling ii fiai•bad, and tying has comet, rc.i. Mauistone Anima, ADMINISTRATIVE REFORM.—Mr. Mullah requests us to state that although present be took ■o part is the proceedings of the preliminary administrative reform meet ing is St. Panora,. Mr. Batter paired on Tuesday evening in favour of Mr. Berkeley's motion on the Ballot with Mr. Malting,. ..-~- - pIUIL 4010 AM DE! Al ports a col: In (we the Gen. ~ i the e Wing us. ~ I them) the g Beni half 4 to-m< folio