The Express. — London, England, 1850-06-19 00:00:00

LMPEKIAL PARLIAMENT. HOURS OF LORDS-Tviswa, Juxi 18. 'l>;hesse net at 6 6We/h.:Lord LAPODALI sat Speaker. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED . ASSiclttrolat. Paorscrtow.—By the Duke of RICH MOND, from Tawataw, is Sesserestatticr ; sad heat a piece is Liaselsohlty, praying ter • return M pretretise. seirerri Ur . Tax —By the Duke ef EICRMOAD, from is fewer Mae resiel of the salt tea. 131CUMBIZED ESTATES (IRELAND) ACT AMENDMENT El t.L. TIMM boobs boss • read a third limo The illerwais of WESTMEAIII the lesertim • two shires. TM de of CARLISLE Nisve his desided opperitina te lb, deism which, wita bill isialf, he *went ate 'Mar wweesestwp. The Earl al OLE:WALL sepperted the addideael deems Ow the isigestiew et Lod Bwauworrt, no Marquis of wasnizon .sweated to withdraw OM of them, sad thew pregosad a 11114111 NI to the seas that the wsmieheisatis sheaM set 1511 ray emirs Ia less than fifties yeast TheZrf h e opposed the clause as rudrely at yeehrese with the priori* of the est. Rae inst Ship &feuded see seetese of the eirwistiwiestre. and iwahted that this slaw sea:d sot be spied to "Shoat &bowleg that paella mist led we eseAdoese I. this. Thiakisi is impossible to Sat ow say sem es as esserats ammo 44 raise is all ewes, sad diet it Ins es* Important to show that parliameat sill meted eattlidesse is the sowiniseleaste, he 1ep441 the answhasat weed re he agreed to. The Earl of WICKLOW said this. win many prow. Sae which would he well sold at 16 yam' pan:hale ; bat to establiMi ea oneself/4 rile would lead to the greats' ab surdities. la &Sweat prat of the country, the camber st Oren' perches. tom arlaM ea Mate sight properly be and tavial eoasidevably. Earl DESAZT thew& the these night bo eaaliSed by wale; the restristiew esadttiourd is the omens of ta• Owns?. Tb. Earl of CARLISLE said he could not coaseat to lave the discratios of the troutuirloaan fettered be say May. Lord STANLEY tali if it was possible for as estate to be sold, against the resaseat of the UMW ter 71 )ean' per shate—if the eolassledesen had ever exe rcised their diem Wan la that wey—he thought It high time that some Unit should be imposed spas It. Na ens cluld say that IS years' parehate at the rent astually realised Wu set a fair price sad he would support the amuse, with the oddities of the weeds. '! where the eisseat of the owner has sot been 010- Weed." Esel FITZ WILLIAM thought it would not be desirable ti limit the power of the eoesiaissioaers. unless the minimum prime was Axed lower. Ile theught the bill a very proper and useful one, without Do additioesl thaw. Tim Earl •t CARLISLE reed tosser roots from the 1101- trepocd•ne• of the coassaissiormes, is retinues to as estate which bed toes &Repel to hare beta told too low, but ow the nimbus? apply's' to the court to bo let of hislttrgais, the applicstioes was stressoady opposed by the °wan in the property. Aker a few words from the Kilftpil of WiIITNILITI sad the Earl of OLiceotta., The Earl of STRADBROKE reminded the Rowe that nets wore so Maier what they were is Ireland. EU holm many estates is the south which, it pat up for sole. would realist se vase whatever. approvici of the bill as it stood, he wee iazitots sot to do anything white might fatty the dieentios of the comusissioaen. TM ►oath thee &Tided, Fee the clean Ageitet It The Owes was area added to the bill. Oa our madmieoitra to lb* aspory, TN Marquis of WILSTNIKATII stored the addi•fm of mother slams, the obj a of which wu eadentwa to be to MOW& the totoeteetentts tie taking posseasiou of a debtor's property -hick was oat of the colliery. Toe Earl of CARLISLE resisted the class., sail impro per iateriereues pith the rights of debtor and creditor. Atter a few words from the Earl of Otattoat.L. the Earl at MOCWITABNILL, mad the Marquis of WisIMIIIATIS, The demo was agreed to, without a gleam, mid to. bill Uses posed. DISTRESS FOR RENT BILL. This bill was road a third rims, and parr . ACCOMMODATION TO FOREIGN MINISTERS. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE —Wi:b regard to the argammulattun of forogn ministers and ambassadors, I need sot "cleat to what took place lost evening ; it is already painful *sough. I believe it arose out of a misapprokossion god mistake. A foreign minister, of the highest character, for whom as as individual I ►ave the highest nepoet, was obliged to have the situation that he occupied, and which he conceived b • lad a right to occupy, but which he certainly had no Mitt to occupy amording to our regulations. It nowlsp p•an the &inclusion we mum come to is that we have no 1 plate where foreign miaisten can sit. Then is • place why." they eon stand, bat that is most incoavasiest. I sha:l, %bacon, propose es Friday to appoint a semmttteu for the purpose of coati leriag and inquiring whetter :ay improvement out be made in the grating arrangements of the bans., se as to have a place appropriated for foreign nil nistAis when they caa sit, and they aloe*. I believe that is almost all assemblies abroad accommodation ut this sort is Worded. JL7DOES OF ASSIZE BILL. Tbie bill was read a third time sod pus. d. LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND) BILL. Tkas bill was read a wood mac Twat lan:skips than adjourned to Friday. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Tur.so*y, Jrxx 18. TM snAzza took the eta, at Icor o'clock. PRIVA 1E BUSINESS. . _ _ _ _ TIMID RUM) I;o7;•i3;iiia 11;p;;;;;;;1, MIA'S. Water works, sad Cossury Bill. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. FACTORY Lti8T): 7 11.L8ybir7i71517.465318E, from a place eat board; Mr. BAN ES, from a ?Lae in Dona, is Lamar of a Tea Hours Bill. ESTAILIIIII OD CerßCtt ( ILILLND I.—By Mr. OS BOILNII, t, the parish of Cone, is Mayo, praying that the remittal of the protestant church in Ireland sai,tht b. appropri ed. ated to the purposes foe which they were origiaally intend — Po.iirTarrics —By Sir E. BUXTON, from a place In Ems, rusimitBoaday labour is Om Pact-office. TIXAKT litosr.—By Mr. 8. CRAWFORD, from We !quid of Ballymena sad Coleraine, is favour of equitable emapirmatios to %inmate. MAILILIAGI Btu..—By Mr. CARDWR.LL, from places is the sertrepolis ; Mr. T. BUNCOMBE (6), Mr. MACKINNON (2), from Nowisgtea and places is tins sm. tropolis, is favour ot Ibis bill. Jaws Ett.t..-13r Lord NEWPORT, from a plain In 81trooekim; C.IBURRELL, from a plats is Sierra Mr. PORTAL, from a plan it lisispralre ; Mr. WALPOLE, hem Methane; Mr. ADDERLEY (2), from plasm is Staf fordshire ; Mr. LEE SEYMEK, from • pleat Is Don't; Mr. BANKES, ham Bradford; Mr. J. O. SMYTH, from York; maims edmitaim of Jaws to parliament 15.11T11101 BASIL Bits—By Mr. P. MILES, from Briesd ; Kr. BANKBB, from a plum in I) mat ; Mr. COLVILZ, from • plea ia D.rbyahin , against cretin slaw of Um bill. SEWAGE OF WESTMINSTER. Vissonat DUNCAN 'slog ho wished to have an answer to the follow's:: questions front his =Me friend (Viscount Els riagton):—Witea the eewthe of Weessiester is bronchi Into the new cesspool in Parliament-gardens, were the eommiesiours bawl he pump it to 3—Where the outlet to the new sewer acne thestructiag is to be; and why the con missiosers of sewers did not commeeee et the end nearest the outlet 3—What the total estimate of the new line of sewer amounts to; and whether there is any abjection to lay the estimate oa the table of the House of Commons I—Whether the sew line of drainage is sufficiently deep foe the require ments of the commissimera of the Westminster Improve ments, and to drain the entire of the Westminster district? Vise:mat EBRINOTON said that, strictly speeklag, it wee not sewage at all which they were drawing, but water which oozed from the lend, which it was well knows was of a wet description, though in cutting the draias it wee possible that a little of the sewage might find is way late it. As to the play where it was to be pumped, it was interceded to be pumped by a steam mine to a sewer of a higher level what rea dawn Greet George street. It was of Imports**, that the works should go on while the weather wan dry, aad that was the reason why they had meamesesd so early. With wpm to the second question. the temporary outlet was to be by the sewer which ma AMOK Great &Aland-yard end Percy-wall. aid it was th e Viaion of the engineers that the com amassment should be wad* whirs it bad khan plass. With hapset to the third viatica, he was not able to state at that sseassat the total 'Minato, but there would be ao cobjestioa to lay it oe the table of the house. With regard to the fourth gaieties. the esetheme were of opinion that the Anthers was sufileiently deep. Bat be begged to ob serve that their object was te do what woe mart 'dean =foe the metropolis gamily, sad set tar Yu Wait distric sloes. ORRECE. Mr. OSBORNE aid Ort he wished to pat • guidon to the hon.bareset, the umber for Redwissaa, es the sob low el Greece ; eled, ittlieugh he hod me hoes able to give the Iwo. gestiews settee of kb lateselis So pat Ws goes- Ws, he erased thee, haying takes • gnat beers* Is the eats 111 Greelie, Mid UMW; Nord far papers relatisi to the Week gdoodes, he wish be able to aims h on the apes of she =swot. The gasoline he whiled to pot to the hes. gestiows wee, whether It wee his Wesel= to draw the Siewelos of the ham to the altars of 0r,..,. (Ohms hes the sishlariel haiellte.) Inf .1. WALSH laid the bee. palm* 'odd see lave ev's say does stsonties le Ow pert vide be (Sis d. Walsh) hod takes is these alike, benne, it wee see smut es shWd by the his. pathos', lilt he bed ever sewed he pipers with regard to Week sesieelless. (Chew best the Opp salon hisehos. the quoits pee Is by the hes. it was trims the Whims of Orem sediod aid e be di/ nos loom that b onythims old* he bed does be had pissed lime hl Met Pmeinsine_ peddle width Mudd asks IS wouwary be his is emanates the seek= Irk of hdesing the Infers the hews. At tho use It woe •se ought— (lased aria of " Order," which the hon. gee times ressmed his 'set.) Mr. 0/BORNS—The bee. gonthisea this does sot sad se beteg the gabfest heds• 'Whinge I Si J. WALSIK no m pnessel ben evft a re ply is senoeqsass, of thM a liei et " aft" pets. i s frost Ma. mobile blindleley behind Net. GROWTH Mr. 111101 IT, silmoVe. rnibm for • row* death's Tint on bumble Wen; to mold the of ades which p country. sad to recent allot the techoeilsdr the, Wei Winton ~:. ~:,r. fie said—l feel ems. . _ ch lts it I should oder say apology Ma/lag lsl ace am seder i s cocsideraties to-eight. It may seem eat of to oder say nmervatiese essaing to show UM 011 the trade to whisk I refer, mad yet 1 Walt that I should fail le In ise the fns *soon of the modes ihrlikh I ben M minas if 4 di ass OM beset to ands naiad what is etthe maguitade the eskjest lam now about M being soder its consideration. The metes mode twins, dare*, mod iedireetly, probably net Ism this two million id the Mo nti= of the Untied 11.1agdes, whit on sateen et segnal las pester them eau be Nand sugewed *away ether massfeetur ise trade is the Uaited ffierteme. The whole Impart of cense kite this sesatey, at the emasseerneat of the reseal sentary, Ina set mere than atry-de sal less of potted*. Sims then it has *.,mood my rapidly, until 1819, ekes the animal imported reached the eaarrawas quaatity of 764 mibesse ef posses. New, it is es some cossequesse to observe wham emus this gnat suppl (Beer, hear.) Our sup plin thee are draws, 1. the Int ismenses, hos the United States of Amends; meseadly, is point of TZAIt h best the British posseedess is ladle; thirdly, empire a Brasil ; muddy, frost Baps; sad fifthly. the West ladies The nimaddes se beseght say he Mk dew* la Ms ninnies. Taming the Manna of the Ise' fin Foam the United Bodes banished 784 per seat. of dae u.S.. smossmed to this essatry ; the But loan. 10 4 1 par e mits and. 7 per amt.; Bond. 3; Pot mt. •ma lee • WM hides, say pm mis is nat.; hat if we btahrt • igyptiae grows se wee* twigs ft 1111116 is pia • Wee as Beat Wiest, bided ef bong 34 per each, we may fairly set it dews at 7 per nat. Is value. (Bear, hear.) It we look to the Menem that is takiag plus, Ia the imports from Wes several muntries, we will find that it le very great from the Untied States, rather limited from tbee Isdian possession, my tonsbierable from Bgypt, sta tionary sr , near& Brasil, whilst from the West lodise it has almost Idles to Betides. What I wish to direct men ties to is this—that we dedn 784 oar sent. of our raw mated d from the United States ; and although the increase of redwing there has bees very rest. yet the rep is m fleets• stlag that the settee trade of teas sessay periodically same gnat eiffeultin and embarrammesto hem the red et mesa tad ionalcieney et @apply. Men, beer.) Te give the house en idea of theme fluctustieme I MB /eta refer to a few facts. la 1838 the crop was 1.889.81110 bola • is 186 4 4 it was 2,70 0 , 00 0 bales, and is 1849 it did icet nand 2,000 000 hales—vasylag thee 700.000 bales la sae year, or two stacessin crops, whisk is squirmiest te a fang off of 26 per cent., and iavolviag a great iscreses In the ass el the raw material, as weir as kiwis. &ben short time to the working dame, drift snow simile, and, in fact, 'goat lo • to the mosafeeranr, n well as to the ves engaged is the ihoterise. (Bear, hear.) Theme is point very impsthist le be obeened,.asseely. whilst die esseastrion of cacaos heo boss Istresses here is this esuatry, it lass also bees isereedeg to a rest extent es the esstinent, se also is the United Mass of I was set a little etartled by discovering the feet that the tinted Stotts, is 1849, sessumed a largt r quantity of Mtn' ties the whole growth of the States produced is 1824. TIN Vaned Stun are sow snag a lame qmatity d eettes than ere were in 1824 ; and I therefore thiak theme fasts are mill list to iodine me to r ing before the notice of the Moo the great strides that are tsklsg plass is the Milted ; sad ale, the important feet that, whilst this power of ems ensgthen is going is over the fete ef the world, the pewee glesiastion of the raw material is sot keepiag pass with is. (boe, hear) Some may thiak it of very little sesssokossos whether cotton be den or cheap, supposing that the 11=11- (admire have it in their power to raise the pries of the manufactured article ; but when it is borne in mint that ea en advance of • penny is the p sad in the oosesisptios of last year the submitted coot reached nearly 3 000,0001., sad that on an adv.ince of 3d. Is the pound by reams of the short crop of last year the increase will be between 8,000,0031. and 9,000,0001. sterling, the house will en that the esseaniesse of such Menem of eon mast teed to limit the ociannaption of articles if mann f acts re , sad invoke the trade in difilmaltiee sad embarreaments. (Rear.) With . _ regard to the exports of cotton, I filet the total semen of this country set down at 63,040,000 i. sterlingoef which the corns trade furnished an amount of 26,000 , or 42 per cent 01 the whole amount of the exports of the country. (Hear, hear.) Such being the state of things, the house, I trust, will not blame an for lunging forward this greet questam, which occupier much of the attention and mini &ration of the people of the county with which I em ednaected. (Hear, ism.) Well, then, we look about to ascertain from whence we an to have an ade quate supply. In Australia the population is not large, and the on: of 'shim is very high; and although the climate may admit of growing cotton, tnere is no probability wean receive from that colony any supply maculated to alter our condition. (Rear, hear.) Vintners is the calmly of Natal, and with reference to that colony a gentleman within the last week gave to the Chamber of Commerce is Manchester some very valuable informs don as to the growth of anion there, he himself having plows 60 bales of excellent quality. (Hear, hear.) But the itsropean populati n is email, and the native population does sot exceed 100,000, whilst there is little capital or productive power; so that whatever may be chile in inture, nothing can be hoped for from that colony for some time townie. The West Indies, is the years from 1810 to 1812, furnished et the rate of 60,000 bales per annum, but taking the last flee years they did not sap ply more than 8,000 bales per annum; sad, indeml, it might be said that the growth of cotton in the West Indies is extiaguishesi. (Hear, bear.) There has been an attempt mad* t, revive it; bet it would only be de luding the house did I say that 1 tar a moment thought the early growth of cotton there would make up for the deficiency. (Hear, hear.) Then it manes to this—where are we to turn Tu our li...sessions in India. (Hear, hear.) I think there are ?WWII to stow that then we should be sunessfuL (Hear, hear.) India has always grown minis, as a refe rence to history will show. (Hear.) As Its' ago as 303 years bask a celebrated traveller reported on the growth of cation then, and at this moment there is reason to believe that within the limits of our Indian territory a quantity of cotton is grown, which dine not fall very far short of the produce of the whole states of America. (Hear, hear.) Now we some to this fact, that up to this moment there have bats no planks, notwithstanding all the attempts of government to encourage the 'Fenn of cotton, not by de pressing other branches of industry, but by example, mid by encouraging and stimulating by the legitimate means open to them. (Hear, hear) Well, there has been no result ; and therefore 1 want to know if we, the committee of this house, the East India Company, and the members of the Manchester Chamber of Commerce, are all mistaken in our notion on this matter ? (Hear.) If we are not mistaken, then I ask the hoses what is the next step to be taken? I know not whether the govern ment will grant this commission or not bet if not, they are bound to show they have some clear ground ea which they net their opposition to It ; they are boated to show they have some other proposition that will be as effectual as that which I now propose. (Hear, hear.) lam disposed, is inquiring why we do not Import cotton fram Imam to look as the mathtios of the people there. In looking at the condition of a people, you may mace their - laws sad institutions, tad argue from that con dition whether the cirews-- lef the government or ad a mialswation ars revenzahle or _ IN the of that people. Meer. hem.) There ens hit m y, ow be too well knout or ileo is frequently reltmeesii—samal that the militias of the seltivatiag popahades of India is by a rams satishelary ; god that it Is see of mums, abject. sod ahem ached poverty. (Hear.) I wish the house to has this In Wad, if they will only condescend to follow Ilbe through the lins of argument and illustration I interact to ma is sommisa with h. (hm, bear.) I never at au individual aomelased with the maditien of India who denied that the modhisa of the sultivatiag population wee uneatietactory ; sad se I have asver Ma in that country I therefore shall entreat the louse to listen to the opinions of thou who have been, end to take their evielenee, not my statements, u the truth end feet. of the um, (Hew, far.) Mr. Bright read the testimony of limaraohaa Roy, and va rious writer', including one of the America& planters seat out by the But India Comm, to the depressed condition of the peasantry of India, the Ma of the landed aristocncy, sad the inactions tio mom of the goverment " The poverty of the people," Mr. &bora said, " was vast biped belief." TM ripen of the whet ermines of 1848 stated that the ealtivatese in the mews tiliMsleb la the west and south et India were In the met Gijon sndities, depend ent isms mousy-leaders,wheeztorted 40 se 50 per am, and wnlaasd priers at their will. He Anna that the tummy mow mad* by the gemeaset d bike, to enable the Mil to Very oa cultivation, astenaled he no less than r. then reseeded to sbow, from =ient=ties M , the= is the 'sternal cometalce. lime In India, and the deisimey of artificial irrigation, whielt skim he theimlitjwilifisd the istectireees of parlia ments. Balm was einefew sabiest less vitt* a dan gers@ of 'pinks prevailed, siriasly. the had 1111110111 Mil ars e the MAO In which it VW Infra. Bose minelard it, that, tegoventsent being the lawdlerd, amennisotwas rent; t he waded that the gmerament bevies the power et Multrer s il a y liaise its mourn arid if enforcing lie MI Ml= to the Ma of the ealthater, it was widely distimmished has what we called rem. I will aro (said Mr. Bright) g:ile the 'Mame of the Itemarable amber tor (Kr. ), gives Were the onandttes ia 11111. Ile was q se to the animal which the It 'mimeo hid impended is a series of wen epos titsea es these to whim\ I ham w ined . He i ela t tie asessat has IMAM 1148 NedsZrads. end hr infamies pets down et 1. whereas it ewers hes the rills lim•ver7 Perm that the per mime derived in Mee nem the people et India diarist *a ..teml Mlwas upwards of 11114.000.0001. MOM. (sm. New, so tar with regard to the question et inter est impe_essesats, I hiak I have at any me made eat a mu maim is worthy ef the Mentim of parliament. as I spies Met no amissilinel matey ma prosper which Iwo met pot hillides el seminnairetim, se as to be able to what it modem to the Mt markets and to what it :at Ohs shape* rates hem ether aaeis s,(Kw, But goal reeds w met of themselves imillek at to et Ma io , or Wm a gysilgT istt to Niz e ld ;re Mg a peried a t i r lina s beef maw the _ihe hems is P est i * pea Milli then mere 04 %Ws% Amok 11:e President of the Boast of Ossand am the meetan of the East ladle Comma, will whew Ask that thin ere as may able aid MIS to be hind es ob.. _ aw.r.---- wiles between. „ Ode lead sol we ... not. Is as dewiest do eldiellien -. inegbansee, mad gai lleellie s ve ewes the motive itelleateee bete Ike payee O foe end wls* eeddvedere wbo de see pay Y tie et their anownsat: TIN Zest Isellak Gawp it lets land moos will no coopetllies. 714 Waste mon base tbe leak hr Soto le tie etliee =seta ei s livlog. TM bermes sot Is ely soma of ne a t= he tends Is peolshis he *ll bo able to get, and ees so dS IMO Moe esiketor does pressed to the tome pia ef eadeveiell 1 (Hear, bear.) Ide not akar& tee Sat lons Osetpoir nick warbles the new to do slaws sagest that It b visible to week it ; I ea oely es. le *MI 1111 mem Noy be, eel I feat = M trey bites weelood. (Sen a have.) Oa th is sebiest I wIS Woe to the rodents of Never three weseeees who woo emenleed before die esonelibee Is MIL I will Ant MOM' to tbstfid Mr. George Mow, who wee s saleable foe 14 rms. .Nis el: Mimi* liestee. Speaking of the reomniessl/111elt he eft" Weald* the teat used wee note Yen *sold be sallestid, II• sap: Pseenatrandleg Ole fradider as short mirk M.) the ralse bare boss so MP tre ran flee Mtn the Orr MiNselt= Ile neumme; Jed there bar been large wilsesaiag hews beau whirs sherwarde, thle Ism* sprees le "I la writ I have rem g. mays he sever ksew a owe " where • ass advaseed Meal( solely by caltivesion of the lend—eats for a time whoa he had *caw land rest free, or eery lightly assessed, which be threw up when the foil charge was pat awe it." This wither added that es retuning to Ouserst, after an abase" of fourteen leers, be baud that the wealth al the ishabiteate W fallen of Mr. Crawford, a gentleman of the highest thwarter, formerly a asenhaat la Bombay and a sneaker ed the Booby -'--trios, and now resident it Look" nap " The members of the coaiadtwe were of opiates the tan wee too high in Oaant, Yd that it interfered with the growth of saes." Mr. W who had been 21 sere is liedia as a solleetar, we, asked whether the ultieWe of the animas was left to the colleetor ? He replies : "Of sour • they (the people) menet 'tarry their petit; it is left entirely to the diecarion of the solicitor to fin the aroma is reference to the costa's' of the troantry." Of coarse it le not to be supposed that the collector word be 'Windy onsinpt from the influence of public opinion; bat that thick cote not, I her, operew moth ia la. The witness rya, The prosperity of a whale district madly derails upon the peesosel qualileatiosa of the egos, asosolitag it." When the aesewasent wee greatly reduced, he says, "The ineproneseate wdett"graeral, rapid, and murk. able, la "owe platys almost changing the face of toca tr y," I would new ask the house te limas to a "tamest of Mr. Davie, • Wismar in a diarist in the pension of Ouserat— which le the largest producing distort. Ia a report made by hie to the Busboy Cosaission in 1847 he gives a tabu lar statement of the 11111111111111111 from 1835 to 1847, sad he shows that, taking the whole thirteen years, sad sal= the vales of the earn at twopence and 67th. per the following is the remelt ; 13 years -1133 to LW Valle of cotton M.ll.7tlns a purse of frisk l i gi 4-01101, kal purr at take, de. fr., at 111 per coot of rats Tatou hut pars of cuts. :— Woo of alms cry id. per lb., Navel preen, is. 41d.--wf wire /overruns Uwe Go. 3443, cot more ths• el per sew. The worst poor or the arks:- 1311-42.—V0100 of oottna lid., 'mai produce, la bdrMwh b parrateent tare ts. 3td., or me,' Moo 73 for mei Or, Ir mottos be lid. per lb., where le only a ub easehlies i the 'overarm& rentword ke el per tem. _ A ltregalt is equal to kW as Hagfish sew. Mr. Serwart, enactor I. Surat, shows that tie severeness took more than GS per cent. of the tens produce. Ik. Davies states farther, that in the six years, 1840 to nee, ha was obliged to make remissions cf semeameste which could sot be colisated, amounting to 113,0001 ; that then were written off irrecoverable haleness amemosing to 81,0001. With regard te the taxation of Malabar I may remark that I have here the lodger of five parishes of that district, In which the tails Ixed epos every jack tries, may eicem-hat tree, end every hone in airman proportion. These sat trees which have am begun to base are not charged • thee watch are plot bearing are also exempted; nil when etl these sensate particulars of maaagement me lilt to **five collectors, who are paid most load. quail teladth elect woo are of necessity subjected to certain iufimene.es Mellish men so situated are maturity liable, the famehles, the in equality, and the extortion prattled seder thiamin", mast be seen at I cannot adequately deicer's., and the house could hardly credit. Here m • paper whin was drawn up by one of thew motive collecton—a paper furnished to Lim by Mr. Grose, who was some year ego, sad may be still, a eullector In the district of Malabar. From tens it appears that there are 18 or 19 kens Ia the I scale or charges toe a jack tree and for other trees. Tae as tire collector, going to ass award or garden, is to fix the tax oa the trees within its limits, cud, as every tree i.. t, be charged, the bows will see how impossible it is that any thing like proper control should be sx 'fried over the east army of siollcetore opined over the presideney of Madras There is in this paper a distinction between moist or irri gated load and dry land ; is for, the distension are mul titudinous, and I am quite sure every one mum admit that such a system of taxation requires alter. stun. (lieu, hear.) I admit that there may be a difference of uphill's% se the subject of the fisml system of Lade, but the more I admit that, and the more the house adopt my view, the more justified am I in asking the limns to great the if-spiry he which I am about to move. If the mode of warmest be as bad as these wit theses have described it to be, the sooner there is an inquiry the bettor; if, as the other hand, I am mistaken in my Mew, along with away others, the sooner toe 'mistake is correct ed the better. Well, sow, I I come to the objections whin I soppy.* it possible that the right hon. gentleman, the President of the Bard of Trade, may offer to this motion. I will assume that he thinks in. quirt' sinnecoseary. I hope he will mot say that the best course would be for the :herniate of Manchester to go over themselves or to send somebody to India to buy cotton. When we have advanced so far in COolilardal mature, I think no one will get up and suggest such a remedy as that. Why, the Bombay sterehants declare that they cannot get into the intenor of he c.uutry, and that the inhabitants of the interior eine yet to them for went cf proper com enneatiom ; therefore, I do nut think it will be said that the merchants of Manchester ought to leave their mills and count lag-hones in order to go and encourage the growth of cotton. The right hon. gentleman may urge that information enough has been obtained throu4h the Bombay commission, and the committee for which I moved in 1848. Does the right hon. gentleman remember that the Indian Company said the sues thing before the committee sat ; and will any one *ay that the labours of this committee were hat vein ? (Hew.) Perhaps the right hea.gentlensaa will tell =that the ream lunation of the commission aid committee are b.ing carried oat. How are they bring carried out ? By the pro ject of 35 miles of railway from Bombay, about which there is as yet the greatest possible dispute. As regard, the prope sitlon to make a railroad from Bengal, I perceive that • newspaper favourable to the government admits that there are comae difficulties which may prevent this railway from being made at all. Nothing is being done on a sys tem, nothing on a great scale the Indian govern ment pro not tads' up the subject as the great 'ab ject which ought to engage paramount &Motion. Now, we know that cotton may be grown In India to nay extent, but that therm are some Canals in operatioa which retard its growth. I propose that there should he a royal eosamission to inquire what the obstacles are. We brat perfectly well that to this otrantry it is sot enough to have one report ; there smut be report after report, and the public mind end the mind of parliament mast be astarated with evidence before any step can be takes. Take the sus of Ireland. We have bad sitting in this knee, from the year 1800, no lees than 100 gentlemen, ropmeenting envy county sad all the largest towns of Ireland; previous ea 1845 we hive a dozen repels with regard to the sonatina of Inland; and yet in 1846 the right hon. baronet the member for Taneworth appointed a commiesies ever which Lord Devon presided, simply to inquire Into the mates of the land tenures of that country. Perhaps the President of the Board of Control will want a pre cedent I will give him one which seems to me to fit exiatly. IA the year 1822 a 'notion was made in this house with refer ence to the appeatasent of a sommiesion to visit the comics el the Cape of Good Hope, Ceylon and the Mauritius • sad the following were amongst In last/action to the co:math sine% which were signed " Bathurst." With regard to the Cape, the instruction run thus:—" The inane lead will be coraidered with a 'kw to the atrimiletho of the old and modern rates of assesument sad to easourep !igrioalture." With regard to Ceyloa the inquky wee ' directed to the origami team of land, the ezpedieney of metres grants of lead, and the meals ioaa en which such greats Assad be iiennerod, sea the systems of maltreats" is thie•ingehese and Easityan penisees ; to the offsets of loans to leadowaers, at side ildreeli•d by goverment; the effects of graviton sad assepalesey services, sad mesas of 001111119- Ike deem ; the &pima of tie sweetmeat than of crop I OW MON of missile she pow* of subsistaase." 4216 sal i tiseassat Wits this: I andalle 1111111.1.6111111101 tee It is se moat _ pse den' be sseraisi pea Nay Ob er apes a treq_2l „. j ey Illiele mg ..=kula Chen Mese nigh 1 hive mem te Ike net el fethemenen vie* is tie deal s geZheimaseg W1N111111111.1111.114 6141/1111 may he smiled* sea ssamesses see kern adeskeei ad new lertlee = b rio Nimbi presedua le yea aeo alga to pesoesk . TIN Wiestasiss to the term Wart eoeoueleeleo r vaey salsoke sod rely valuXbil led le several isoprene andlesadess la w of Ohs people of Ceylon and Its=perused there. fleet hos. gentlerasa the of the Board of Muted may as that ems 411kesalle adds Ii tke ease of Ceylon sad that of the Bast lodise territories. Let us look oust ths clauses of the skeeter, sad discover how tar parlimmt has a Agin to bi modal) with de emseame ea for WI it IS 10•Mleted with India. The 7.5t1 mew fe as tisalosari a iiiiratiawboor with ran pow aa Gamow s a aigi‘ NM ammo d tie aid caligsay. wide" La Moe Nam tba freliellaillit if mew et the sail bo. TM delOicis geotlgoraa will woo* ma if I art wag I. sorbs 'hat be Mat thlarsomali owl of tie amiss, of a whisk low the aboolata govern/am at ante Etwelrap t :: har, that Its Mosel! is respo•dbl e for irvapiriat. no right low. gawciaa l abo r awl • desoil' ow to lodla an us* , moo or war_ • be. tab eh' power of iwvolvhig Logia la osesoam as. mauve, whisk Oho Bast lons eampasy, though * a y' &appe n d eft s wield ha oropellad M limn to. That. -- 180 ‘ 0 11 -- Wiffiti li--. .loe es" Ai lea 11 "=praki= aliseeteel with the Asthma ass we shell Mat aspesassere esameasetteeith thess Mika will sir i ar b d eiti immt io rtr Li ri it Mgt tbd' imperial sommumest the. Osseo awl pen dent ? This is ase it Malt relish is posialarly, Imes ` s the iaveetlathhea ad pailethest, If pailemast Woks =ie have a eagal somesties. Kr. Blight -that par to crew, of of the Mw to the soma. riveassa ffits • of the East India Company, who is 14 1 tit 1847-;-had ' , allotted a ammo if 8 wading, at (dater* *area Or debt) v t iviii 20, year; whilst Me met revenue of O4os Brae* assiseive .1 .dethe. Nes. 45 2 /. 005 .0011. la these oaten Oho this how, I dose met s* al bas t a ffet a ilweVer med i t e tseuen Murat there, bat I dos ell dia_ Awl the armory, and the BMA M MM. MI ti is behalf 0t all them kr they tap' ladieselably emaseeted. *as ilse tehri esk fo Mse ll er e nt as so bi t hfo r t al the tlis arg ."lll6. agwaa tintnes ham say weight egabist the satsumas which I Mm maim la bringing Ibrairethh quoldos. The right hes. gestiesass (81r I. C. Rothease) soy ay that is I. sot yeelble that asses shield be broweiht frees India, or that thoomosiesisa may ea bee able *get say veisabie Shoran ties. On either of thus, pas* he say Wan to great it. Bet I have shows diet Mere la an important in dustry Is this touatry, great is Steer point of view ; end' that the jlerlis with whisk it is sonataded are mow my greet, sad that every mac absent he he sir employer ev a weakness, yeah! be Is how of the preposition - w I 'thesis se th e home, I. hoe Mara slot Lae idth ' has • "leer right to woe to this lose he ski redeemed Zismervaamet if they east. The 'Population ef India. ii *aims parllaleat mien Forward to its Mitt it bra also thaws that the latereele of every portion of dlis =lapilli, of whist goileasest 'ten so pond, are wed is the epodes whisk I hese embalmed Si the Imam I assapptit that the real point el obLestloa is • team of delicacy with regard to the Bast India Company, sad that the government der am wish to stow that they lutve any *ant of cot Aline la evisaaedeat eerporalos. I do 'not blame that for that hot I sok them ,wbenher It ehoold weigh against dig great interests which I have endeavoured to show are so i dzt affected by this quition, rbe Chatter Act will in the year 1864, andaeit year the ounpany will have Si give notice whether they wish for its renewal or not. Parliament unfortunately does not hum sack shoot thew Lane .twin ;Jabot, I smelt de aims preen se be very' siareeseat with them, thmh I haw geld coasithrable at tention to them. 1 will ask th at w ould it not be desirable that we should ' understand the question, and I whether they would be lea able to decide on the fume government • of India In than or four yeas, if this assetiodon were appointed sad they had the malt et their investigations laidbehare parliament ? (Hear-) 1 I think that on sounds the interests ooneerned in this question should * slab heavier in the estimation of the mita lord, the Lord of the Timm, than any feeling which the government may entertain with regard to the Bat India Cowpony. Can the noble lord answer to kM toessiease, le the antstry, sad to India, if he reject this maim ? But if the noble lard outnot bring himseU to com prehend the gravity of this question, I will then torn to the base, sad I wilt ask you to manifest your interest in the well-being et a great Mammy et home, and to show your sympathy for the sonatina milliems of our Indian popedation, who, if they have no von* militia these wails, are the more waled to your oonsideration and regard. (Chasm.) Biz 7. C. !ICEHOUSE said that he had to request the adulates of the house whilst he attempted to refer to the topics which the ham. malemam the member for Manchester had istrodemed to the vendee it the boo, and he could emus the hon. gentian& that be wee not more anaible of the importune of this subject in all its great bearings thee be (Sir J. C. Hobboute) was. It wee quith superfi sotto in the hon. gentleman to suppose that any pereon in that hones who had say minden to be cognisant of the matters consisted with this question geoid look at it with any other (village then these of the greatest comes and anxiety. He mild 'mule we hon. gentian*, that, even before lie gave nodes of this motion, his (Sir I. C. Hobhouseej attention was directed to the elimination of the question io all its bearlnge, and he would add this, that if he thought that the plan propteed by the hon. gentlemen weals answer his object, he should at oaf* say, take your ammonium°, and make the beet use you pootoly can of it. But the sootier' of the hon. gentleman invoiced, not only the question which was put promineatly forward— namely, the best mode of serving a large and constant sup ply of Gotten—bet according to the terms of the motion, it ooseerns the industrial aad scosomieel condition of th, people of India, and besides that it took late eonsi!eration what effect the government of the country lad had on that condition. Who respect to the peculiar urgency of the time which the boo. gentleman had chosen for bringing for ward this motion, he could not say that he had made tat for he found on looking at tom returns, to whict on. gentleman had access as well as himself, that the drpon us cotton Mom all countries had been steadily in creasing for the last three years. In 1847 the import was 474,907,815 lbs. ; is 1844 i• was 713,000.000 lbs. That showed a vast inerealn. • la 1849 there was no falling oft the impart amounted to 775,469.0001 M With referent to Indian cotton, he found that there was no diminution in the import. The imports up to the present period bad greatly inc-eased It appeared t-.at the importation to Liverpool, London, and Glasgow, from Boinbay, Madras, and Calcutta 'rum the Ist Jan. to use 23rd May, 18.50, amounted to 124,000 bales. List year the importation from these pieces amounted only to 30,000 bales. Toe hon. gentleman had °onus/led that the East India Company were not to be blamed for any neglect with reference to this subject, and that so tar it paid attention to it. own 'fatten, and he had drawn their attention very properly to the inquiry which had been taking place ever mince the year 178 i. A summary of the results of that inq uiry had been published within the but new da ) s, and in looking into it he found that the assertion which he made ws, fully borne out, namely, that the company had ceased to attend to this great subject, and that they bat from tim e to li me done al: that in them lay in order to inures aad improve the cultivation of Litton in India. In order to make out how it was that British aipital and intolligence had not been applied to the growth of cotton in India, they thought it ne cessary to inquire into the vexed question of the operation of land assessment on the cultivation of the soil. He found that great authorities differed ore this subject. lie found the hon. member for Guildford milciog a direct assertion that it had nothing to do with the cultivation of the soil; others *ere cf a contrary opinion, and the only fact he could glean wait that they screed that the commiltaie was justified in reporting on that point at all. But the committee rid fall justice, and he hoped that the House of Commons wonld do full justice to the East In,i is Company. They admitted that many obstacles to the improvement of the cultivation of cotton had been removed by them. First of all, the land esstameot, which had been for many years taken upen Nu natere of the produce, and not on the character of the soil, was now put upon the latter instead of the former. He also bound that the liaised Customs and the transport duties bad been removed. He would now take the opportunity of alluding to the obscurity in which this matter had been in former pen involved, and ce amerting that the statemeate veld& came teem the Manches ter Chamber of Commune on the muter were unfounded. The committee certainly did admit, as the hon. gentleman mentioned, that aft-dent can and sufficient expense had not bees devoted to Incites cosionnikation. He mainly did confess that the sommittee had made that report, ard he thought it wet po•ibls that say fair man would admit that it would be much . better if more bad been done ; but be thought he should be able to show that the East India Company and the maresameat were far from baying ne lected the smarm of the goversment, wsod were minis~ es with most us most and were se alive to weld he. prominent' as the hon. member for Manchester coati pe• Ably be. V. very much &mined, notwithstanding all th at had bum said whether such an additioaal quantity of cones or each en improved eharacteer of cotton ever would be lioneght foam ladle so se to suable India to compete with "sew*. Rd 414 met mi, of i 5.,., that every effort should not be marly, ae 'buy e ffo rt was made at this some ot to add to tbs cultivation sad 'harasser of the cotton trade. The 1 last India Company had Mee alive to this subject for years, bus still hr thPaillti Os wee borne est by the evidence upon the table as well ashy other ermaiderations in the ooaclusioa that there was soseakieg is the prOmeties of India which would eaot enable .it to wonyet• with American tattoo He tommltt the sotkonty whirl ha bad gusted I Won, shitr . that the gross awes of cotton produced la India wolf; It for aaasiecuares se Arearkes cotton, owing ta shortness of the staple wed the dirty mate is r it was sent * amettet. He load that is ma hateron cotton them we. sot more than 12 per sent. of dirt. and Indian lotto had 2 per eat. le America boa 2601 M. to 600th.. were produed per um; In India net more Una from 60Ibe. to 1t b.. were ever produced per is,,. Bolden this, thane was sae thing which ought to be remembond, bet whteh. *Mil public meshes was celled to is to a toothsome who Mid written an wide which ea- Mitits the Prepsiesmnoseepsper set log ago, was not . He Gala dial tit ffilisreent bettrun the silicate/. I. lada and the cults .lami na sou great sad Ma plow& There won 110 a Ladiaas who had to be sulked with this very water of the article mediae!' very natural s al. allisse yos . a ll ow 10e. worth ef el hum* fail I/QM Was not a high affects, that wan make the samouat sixty &Woo samiaily for the as. clothing of the people of India, and Mal we. a higher amount than they ever modem& from the manufacture of the article is India. There w by roam why, if other produtiou could be "waled the applicatioa of "spited mad industry, ottoa should net be inereased. Indigo ood pima bad bees la cooed to moonlit* degree. Be heMin hie hand a state lout show* the gamely if opium sold In Bengal, aad the genital resale was this: The quantity of spina 'old ia Bengal in 183$ wee 18,668 sham,. in 1840. 17,868 Assn • in 1841; 18,227 chests ;• in 1842, 18,362 et I, hi ;Mi. 16.104 Mate ; total, 88,114 chute - averse for fire ylime s l / 4, 1 : - 7 1 , 1 823 cheat ; _ r iit 1844, 18,360 chests ; in 1 46, 81,437 ; in 1846, , M,Mt--I Meets ~- is 1847, 21,840 ,k , ; M I . 80.468 chess ; total, 113,981 chests • for Ave rept, 22,714 shims The amber of sheet; 53849 was 86,468. Tice quality?' indigo tea foes the three prigidenclei for a period s erth t ree ed wage bowl Bengal, fen 1 616 46, 76,397 cuts; in 1846-47, sis 87,636 este ; from efls Is sae.% is 1844-48, 30,879 1 i a efts& ; w Wen Bombay, In 1846.46, 17 . ,741 sae. ; in 1847 48, 901 mete. " I = l6B • Pea basest also. Therefore, Is an wee throe great stales of produce he bond that there had Nee no `Ulna oil be found that the cultivation bad ghea en g, and he saw ao NUM why then eloald a ct t% same teases ea to cotton, if the satins Itakthei tame seas to rodeos it. They preferred pre ' hang Sale artake which wee easy of tale and export, end t was Impossible le suppose that eats cultivation sail not keep pace with the cultivation of other articles. The hen. gentleman had dwelt, however, at the gnats lenoth on Imad asnommesta. and he lemi spokes of the eanineems otitis soil, sad in the same way ha (Sir J. Robbers) fens/ dam spoken of a arks deer sate, and in same of kis (Mr. Bright's) own, shish %diced him to btigss be was not easily assisted with the condition of Om psople. The riots in the Midas presidency were fee mere slaves shish we supposed teem to be, sad Iseibandi that, eves with reaps to this very abject —sea with ro se* to the cultivation of cotton and to taking thaw spa& mental farms—theta regular bargain was made with Ilimee era. and they would not allow land to be taken *MP W goads( a very good lanais In 1847 a hood wasssi s/ l e , ye., whisk tored the feet whirl he had just sea deee the improvements, there was the Ganges mad, whisk sep sits en under some of the meet experienced eselseene. l I Merits the haprovenseat of the irrigating area sea saZplee.din 1837, be Meier Cates, at a eat of Root la MPosekiesey ou tri l dlabanestesta had also akee plass IS the and maintaining of mails had alMoseted to 60.000 L, the Governor General had 'broody dha dietetics' that In the newly-acquired province of the Andeule 50,0001 should be expended in work* of irrigation. Me saewiosed this to skew that the East India Company bed not been so nagleetful as had hors stated. Great =had certainty been seat on military opera bat let tse hope that Owe would be no stomeity for Stare great military operations. It was Ise OS not so large a portion of Leda as the But India Cont mow could wish had been devoted to these useful purposes, leaf -at any rate they could slain for the Indian government thell it had not bees neglectful of the great oblate. The mswe fn which Mr. Bright had spoken of the wadi hon of the people of India induced him to think he wee not Ina acquainted with this part of the subject. The ryote Ogre nes serfs, as he seemed to appose, and they were dabs- Arad to cultivate cotton ; nor were the assessments levied as be represented. He had charged the Company's government with neglect in regard to roads and irrigation; but he (Sr Jan) showed that large sums had been expended, and were I Mill laid out, upon canals in India Proper, especially the great Ganges Canal, and is the Puejanb. He likewise read documents proving that a material improvement had ads plasm in the social condition of the people of India. He now came to what appeared S. be the soot 'aperient part of the question, that was the comma s's, He should like to ask the hon. gentleman who were to be the commissioners ? He had said that he (Ur. Bright) theild not like himself to go to India, tor that any of his Manchester friends should go; but as to the gent:eaten of iliesehester, if they did go it we uld take them five years at loom before they could make themselves acquainted with whet they were to do. They would have to Medi Staples instead of making these in quids Whom were they to inquire of ? AU the famdrise must be directed to the servants of the company to get the information which the hon. gentleman wanted; and he should like to know, whether these servants of the e pany, supposing they were so inclined, would not have them completely in their hands; and be should like to know whether we had not at this moment got information from theie parties, whether we had not intelligent commislocers who ware the only persons that could be consulted. The But ladia Company had never given unwilling &Sass to his hon. friend • they had offered to make every experiment, to give every for improving the cultivation of cotton. Indeed Mr. Bruce had gone so far as to state that if Man chester would guarantee a price of 24d. a pound the company would find a supply without tie intervention of any royal commission. Every thing in fact that could be done b, investigation and inquiry had already been done. and al: that was wanted was capital and enterprise to bring tho cal tivation to • eucce•sful issue. His own opinion was that the cultivation of cotton in India would never succeed to the extent anticipated by some sanguine persons, but evcrythihg calculated to give it the best chance of success had him done or was being done by the But India Company and its officers He had now to call the attention of tie house toe circumstance which would go to show that the statement of the has. gentle taat he represented all Manchester on this subjec - , was not entirely borne out by the facts. It did so happen that he sides the Manchester Chamber of Commerce there was an other influential assiation in that town called the Man chester Commercial Association, and that associrion had paid as much attention to the question of the cultivation of cotton as the Chamber of Commerce, and had had just as ataxy communications with the East Judie Company on the subject. Now, when tho hon. member gave notice of his intention to move for an address praying for a royal cols mission, he also made an appli_ation to this association for arcs and co-ooeration in the attainment of his ohjict. Ile (Sir J. Hobhouse) could tell the house what had been the result of that application, for it would be found in a letter which the secretary of that asso elation addressed to the East India Company on the 14th May, 1850. The latter stated that the association, having been recenly applied to by Mr. Bright for its support towards obtaining • royal commission to inquire into the ease which retarded the cultivaion of cotton in India, and the 'eject having been maturely consider d by the board, it had been resolved unsiesously, that believing that much important information had already been obtained by &dal inquiry in 1847. end by the parliamentary committee of IS4B, as well as fro n other sources , and that the suggesti ons made in the report of that comm ittee were in the course of being carried out by the company, and feeling that a royal commission might prove injurious at present by ex , citing unfounded rpeculati.n end interfering with existing operations, the board h ad strong doubts as to this commission being the beat means of promoting the important object which the associa•ior had laboured zealously to pro- m de, and therefore could not accede to the proposal of Mr. Bright. (Hear, hear.) No doubt the commission now asked for might be carried out if the House of Cimmons wished it, but it would be, is fact, • supercession of the company, and • taking of the government of India into the hands of the commission. It would be saying, in fact, that what had been done had not been done rroperly nor in • wise direction, and that nothing better could be effected unless the house interfered in the mode proposed by this resolution. A royal commission !—whe, as the hon. mem ber for Guildford had slid, every G ' , ether-General of India was • royal commission, as was also every governor of a presidency. He was the joint nominee of the crown and the company, and he (Sir J. Ilobhouse) should like to know whether such royal commissioners had ever ne glected their duty ? Had they not inquired into those mat ten? He held in his hand a document written by Lord Auckland in 1837, which showed that he had not neglected hie duty. Wu Lord Dalhousie a maa likely to neglect his duty i He would say that if ever there was • Governor-General peculiarly qualified to make Lquiries on these subjects, Lord Dalhousie was the man. He could inform the hen. member that many documents could be prolate& and if the hon. member wished, they should be produced, showing that government seagoing on with the iaquiry, and trying to make this very difficult matter. ORM s 11011111 748 10,11; k 1=1.47, Sir B. COLEBROOKE, who was but indistinctly heard, observed that he thought the subject which had been brought under the notice of the Erase by the motion of the hon. member for Manchester worthy of much more attention than it was likely to repairs. Having been a member of the committee of ISIS, he had been requested to prepare • draft report, and that draft had been wbol!y based upon the evi dence, and in it he had given his opinion that the improve ment of the country wu more intimately connected with the cultivation of cotton than people generally imigined. With respect to a commission it was not necusiry that it should be composed wholly of persons sent from this country, as there were many gentlemen settled on the spot fully comp.). teat to deal with the subject. lie agreed with the right hon. member se to the difficulty under woioh Indian mitten would labour in competing with the United States produce in the British market, nor was he sanguine that under any revenue system the East Indies would ever provide a large share of the produce required ; but at the seats time he knew that the country laboured under heavy fiscal disadvantages, and he believed that if these were modi fied and a certain portion of capital and enterprise introduced, we should receive a greatly increased eupply, and of a much finer quality than at present. But the real question before the house was whether there were in the cotton-growing districts any cirounistanees peculiarly calculated to depress sgricultnrsi enterprise ; sad 'on that point he thought the hon. member ' s conclusions were of far too sweeping a cha racter. It was true that in the southern districts of India the system of taxation was oppressive, but in the north of Bengal the rowan* had, two years before, been fixed on a permanent basis, and since then that province had advanced more than any other district in India. He did not attribute all the improvement to certainty of taxation, bat he thought it had bad a most wholesome and invigorating effect on the province. He was not disposed to attach too much weight to the promises of the right hon. baronet as to the future, for he had not seen in anything the right hon. gentleman bad stated, or anything that had been given in evidence, any reason foe uti.posing that the authorities at the India House were at all impressed with the danger of the policy they were pursuing in assassin equal to the whole rent of the land. The attempt to exact such a tax in a Gauntry like India, when the fluctuations of the seasons were so great, was in effect to place the whole of the produce, of the ealtivation in every alternate year in the hands of the government agent. What India wanted wee, as was stated the other day by the hon. member for Montrone, measures for promoting internal communication and works of irrigation. Hr. NEWDEGATH believed that ender the administra tion of the t sad the last Governor Generale, Lord Dalhousie and Lard Raiding., India had greatly improved in regard to its internal affairs, but he thought the hon. gente who bad brought inward this motion might have discovered other TOMOS/ Hun the neglect of any govern ment fee the depression which India, in GOMM= with others of our colonial depsedendes, In the change which during late yam hod tikes puss is ear 4111111MINial pokey. lie had hoped skis b r e t o mks he lirooght forwaed his motion, had bumps OM to stable • country to compete with its Ines ati rat the products of a foreign country, it was unwary _to ye to them products the . same amount of prohibition whisk the sompstibig produce en joyed. But, instead of oddly say posposkisa of that kind, the ob ject of the hos, goatkasas appeared to be to make an attack on the govarentsot Be (hu. zuwaiiat ) abonlit be pre pared to support say imposition he thought calculated to I promote the growth of cotton la ladle, but be could not swum in • vote of soadsmanstlint on two noblemen who, bellevtd, had done muck to benefit the cannily. Ifs never was more assisted than at present that the policy we bad been pursuing of late was both narrow-minded THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY IarARNO, JUNE IS, 1850 i - ss, lint OF COTTON IX INDIA. •my bile of the medea me ea lie Ober. I rake ..... 4., . Wear eg s miemoie .7--- 7797Tibe It r, bum primadsi b uggr teem ee es 4 ,„, .tab 1 ,,;"; 3 r . ism al mak taros. nag Whim sir , ..,‘„ rig . , 1 . . _____ _ _leftism a : lei emembeks of basil de *gut k bli l of _.is le ...... -L. .. 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It mil seem oat ode ktm . lead aut w it w• es n re" teke bete esasiduraties'thi an piaihers aisimpeted little the hen. g weeder' sealisie to Mew the meeatu d. el Id. 11 1 16 * &WWI do 1 • 81 . 1 •1 a ao• ialgearos% gad blabs Ibis we dug as* mammamentosemeeleteskat them all bil .. . and ekennightted. He believed that at the Imionteeenren had get late a serape by means of tree-t om me they (man get es of it by ennseatieg --""q4. remsaseative pries to the grower, becalm, ther e .,: . 0 (ant from their dilemma that by enisa tha Mr. O. THOMPSON denithat any seriinoninue had his. evinced by th eb urn. mover to geeerament:ot India. On the contrary, that boa"' was ow osuedou., and more 'wenn than the regsbrod s whis t going into the cue et the deficit. c" ,, i ,. ogoottem. But, even if he had been little to th ' , ' r 1 brought against him by the hen. member for W. ch e st, ~, ebb% that would be no sufficient rattan for inilecinr:',. ben. gentistaaa to vote against • mune, tat p • -r white he had seemed to approve. The bouts would ae ben discharge its duty by confleing its to the calm e img 4 ties of the real goodie* at issue —namely, th. pri itt i es Wail*a of obtaisieg an esesatial ankle of our " e fogMelltieina the British possession in fedi' th, the Mete hen. President of the Board of ho li oorto olahonst oos ) of) nos.thischtllyo.wo&Wunidot.,_,h• become, in fact, no greater ctlamity M thiemuntry t at a falling off in the supply et tietn o ' '' ea snide epos which so many thoune.ds relied tor .., 1 , 5 .,;;! end yet we V4/0 notonnualy de at proem ou•ua emantry—the United States of Atomics —to one supply Toe prods/nee indigo lad opium showed what might li s m•L in India with reference to cotton. Both this., oriel 's C l tseenifavoored. Opium was a monopoly in tee hands of , C Bast India Company, end the rapid increasit place in the production of indigo wu owing to th: 'ket - 7, 4 4 Eurepues enterprise end capitol had gots no the and brought that production to its present eat. . If 4, 1 - e1 had anteceded under European management, acel rf c ? ; ca hal sin succeeded under ties stimulus elves to h by I n di o Company, be eonotived that there w t e en pediment or ion persists °lateen to the cultiva.lon ul c But, the fact remained that we did not aet cotton f rqoa All the evidence brought before the teleet commit: that if the land were encumbered 'sty if the natives wen not in a state of alms; intaticei a slavery, there was everything in the soil, and is the :hr.lt . mess and love of gain among the natives, to in :ox h., n . that a very large perennial, an d constantly increaser, its. i•ly of cotton might be raised i n I n di a . If tws wen es, an immediate and eta/ening inquiry outlet to hei•,..„,.., ed into the causes which had hitherto provented u; f•eia log that supply. Ile would have the East . to give cotton lands in India rent-free fur I, )tan. (A laugh.) Ho coatended that on Ws s....;tet 'sty ought to take the evident* of the natives u. Inn• testi. selves, and that evidence given by the Ind pany's servants ought to be received with neat e m . canes they were not without their prejudice.. and picUlee• tione in favour of upholding the wmpany'• cro-emeact tot justifying their system of raisinir revenue. Ile believed mat the whole secret of the question lay in the pretence( th e ,„ 4 tax upon the natives of India. Toe resolution dd wit 4al infringe the company's rule, or thIP4 temcst - Ler Majesty's government, but believing that it ta u oemm to y satisfy the public mind, an d t h at it would ot tended with useful resul's to Ind a, as will Li this conutri, it should have his must cy e dj a ; Sir J. hIOOO said he had nothing to objet t , to a t , prefatory matter of the hon. member who hod just spekta. But if it were possible to suppose that the Bet him Com paq were influenced only by interested feeliree and 143:i11f, t h,, h a d m sunm e an interest in MCA/VI:4 ON and cultivation of cotton is India as any namossiurer in Manchester possibly could. (Hear, itear.f Be admitted that it was hams:beat on the East Inuit Conspaty to pot mote the cultivation of cotton, end that it wet imambent upon that house to see that they did their duty in that re. 'put. Bat he asked the bon. toecW.se for Mai enester what was the itfurmation he nilitr 1 ; his own speech showed that he was :a v.:sten:ea of intorroation from all parsons, and :rim al: upon the subject of cohort in India. The hon. in nu; asked for a committee, and got it ; he hod presi,ce era and called before it every witness that could mink oe ie. subject. That committee reported, but the hen. a ct.-rek.e . l motien was not founded on it; for it contained no i.• commendation as a royal elatemi.si ni to Incta. i• gentleman showed hie w i.d em i s tcrow i n f the respo.• of my:owing it on the government ; tur if he tnil taken it himself he would hasp .1 covered ridicule in the end that he could never stave t s iona Z.-{ Win Manchester. He might tare no better chic •- commissionen who, in the days ;of Cite cc' India, and were never heard of @gain. I: wet rgat that tho Louse should know that the bey for Manchester was not all Maccies:er. (Hear., He (Sir J. llorg) knew enough of Manchester to tie a• to state that the Commercial Aucciatian taste were .1 opinion that the court of East India directors had . • everything prattical and possible to promote the cultic :•• of cotton; that the pre•ident of the association eces :. oreatest consumer of India e:ttoa at preseat in Engisi..: and that he bad expressed himself a.ronoly against then _: scheme of a royal commission to India. He could also s that the Marich,tacr Guardian Wan also of evicion 1.: it was an absurd proceeding, and entirely repadeated, hoped the house would too, the boo. gentleman'. m.:. The hon. gentlemencomplained of the workin I of thelacd tic. What wasteland tax ? People entertained digerati e.ev, c that subject. Mr. Mill thought that a Land tax we: :e fiction of taxation—that was to say, a portion of th• the soil paid into th e w &so of the state to MO t` , :tr.- Aral% A .i../ cies of the public a rviee. There szieed two assessment in India, the ryotwarty and th ,, .ystem, and each had its advocatt s. Ile de;. assessment was unjitst; but supposing that a an acre for his land, it would not make CAtOll though '2e. were taken off, bee.usd cul•i , al the more profitable crop, he would Nal canto >r m±" vets it at the reduced price which he grid for te. the only difference would be that he would s ;;rc.tcr profit. (Hear, ht ) Tn. hon. gt nilem in nes: c, , a,,,:ainc ci the state of the roads. Hr &intim(' that thi to was great and lamentable want of good internal ercunua:c4tion in India. But h.iw stood the cue in reference to ate r,:ten growing dietr.cts ? About halt the cotton grow❑ in was grown is Gussrat, and is Ger rat the he , r..ttun _.- tact was Baroarli. NJW Barosch was a Lang distr.e., along the coast, and it they had all the roads ar.d r the world, not a pound of cotton could be taken (helper it could be oy nature's erect highway , the un—= Melly with the Darns° blowing in the direction ct IS 7.•. y f eight or M..* months of the year. (Hear, her.r. N:w he admitted that Baroech was overtaxed, for whet. w.•::e • h country some particular put of wh ich might not b : overtaxed ? But it was the 'erase!, of ih. Esu le patty that exposed that tact, and tray k.,ew tha• means et obtainiux the favour, bo'.h of the loca, government, Iva to 'how con-ilerat,on to t klear, hear.) The hon. gentleman complained annual revision of taxation. Why, that &cunt' rev taxation was nothicg mere or has teen :1 nual audit which took place between I , .nd!'r tenants in this country, and the duty of • e was to listen to the representations of the pct sr t : him if those representations were well founded ; no power whatever to ald one farthing to the ri beta%) The second cotton-growing district was !i whic: enjoyed the advantage of beidg skint d c.: the coast, besides possessing the advantage of !re i• a: - which Intersec:wl :de .: The remaining district—that of Parrs. was near the sea ; and, in addition, it pa•es.e! •::client roads, running down (rem the Ohion oche. and through Koondee it could communicate • a vst India. Ot . tbase three cotton amain.: da.trint t the sea, and the other wu not v.rydotanttrvs which all of them had roads - film village to a How were they to induce the natives to grow cotton a:*3 long staple ? The preaident of the Conarnetcal of Liverpool said th,rr was so use in sndirg us is Ir parcels of bad cotton. You must improve it 20 per etc'. • Now, he could tell the house that it they wi•tcd the :s• tiara to grow them cotton regularly they shmtial insiire to them a steady market, it not high prices. Ir ham c :ten was here sought alter at high prices only when there ram a fai.ure in the American crop. bear.) 'lce fact stimulated the natives, who grew an extensiv, crop di :he neat year; but a good $ll/012 occurring in AC. Crop bfalala a mere drug in IndlA, SUI he had the authority of Mr. Turner for saying t J: that ze,.::eatan often threw on the dunghill that wide, cat hint , He reeemunendel the hon. member for hianchiste: to fora __ --- ward a number Ti o circulars to In 'lt. there to be tilled up with the requisite informeti.a.; ed f...r J. Nogg) would guarantee that more information w he afforded thereby in three months than hr e utmiwon wou.l collect in as many Jean. Mew, hter.l 1)..i :he boa member for Manchester ever turn his attentton the es' new of bullion in India ? Wee he &were thst In.nt ors:: lowed up in 10 years no less than 22AN/Ann. 1 , .1.-oh (Hear, hear.) The East India Company bad !..e et- Ferment of cotton growing at great expense. and they *fee now prepared to co-opt rate with the Manchester gentircet:. (!Isar, bear.) Let tie Manchester gent:emes nil 4 where the Rut India Company left off. In Lis opieteb the time and the 00C411011 had arrived for au ettvrt et the and he therefore hoped that the hon. member tor Ni , o• chaster would be aatteued with showing his annirty en the matter, as evinced by his statement of that right, aei not press to a division the motion then before the bone. (Hear, bear.) Mr. W. FATTEN attributed much of the infer:orty Indian cotton to the deficient state of the meant of tr.o.sport to the ports of exportation. lie believed that =prone:eat was possible, and would be stimulated by inquiry. Captain 8. MANGLES dehaded the assessment land-Ist system. Colonel SIBTHORP suspeeted all propota:s fir a cot' simian, and the present one especially. Bat he would not euppurt the government, mad lett this qinition to be staled between Downing street and Manchester. Mr. BRIGHT, in reply, eonuteded that no proof Ind been shown of the useleuness of inquire, hat to N.• unto: it must act under the authority of the government. Ihe tra ce at the question wee conceded on all WO, and sere the re i g r i t s a l:ture would Hod it areaway to take it up bet-re long. Opposed as he was by two goveraM en ts, at home ant In Indis, be would not area his motion to s division. The SPEAKER put the question, .that the m otion , be withdrawn," when there were cries of tt No, no," from Lel. Blbthorp and one or two others. The motion was so:ord ingiy put and negatived without a division. IRISH MAIL PACKET STATION. Mr. U. HERBERT said he had. a notice on the psPer ban LW attention of the house to the importance of °tab- Wag • Ilia packet statics on the *oath or west cosset Iry Ludt" bat as he had received an intimation from the et , ' cerement that they would grant as inquiry into the matte/, it wee not necessary that he should trouble the house w' 4 °, any remarks on the aulasat. The subj' ct lied f ictunl duo. interest is Ireland, and he believed the coustat ofall.ge: esrainent to impure into and consider the matter trod.'" gratefully roosived by the inhabitants of that country. 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