The Express. — London, England, 1850-06-26 00:00:00

moos e, wo amid tlO mionest thee overture My na -"Ap•- coo en.M mad wt wood that autism N rs rp.aded . but la both aim we said win"' :ewe the mails takes, begaste, if we did, " „ wr ote.. Well, it has bees Mated 6 ' 'I hat" " 1.-tweet the government of to' —we mow d ti e peernio. at ! Emalao itt the nuke al this I•:te`-- e.. or whatever it may hi rho!. run thy re Was any misaninatiad. , ' " - g piny* at Lima sad myself. (Cheers) rr i.;•"„, 11 ;; t.„' w yei by his despatches. sa lead before the Pn'"" , that he el. any understood the sonditioss I effom of Frazee were incepted. He n ye Finland gives op sons of her dominate, 1" •• ": ', m u of the principle of her d. mends. and the only .„• tht our nigkietar is compe•eat to &WOW are ° Ow !I Jo oo• eo:ve the se I ntioa of the principle • ,e Mu.) W ell, what were those Tbow i nstils. ...to, the the of uses» to Mr. risky. aid the mount of era to M. ranlios not • ques- 1 kr" Fnisy was to receive anythiog or wa 'Wt." wt • q ~,,,ricra whether M. raciago was to sr: 5 a ta11.... t " SW. hear." sad shier..) , C.Tthilit I s so, what were the eiream . he •••ertion WO N which eh* good Obis of Pent* were to isms .. r netestri to he »marl ; and it was distiastly if; • e .. mT rat* at well uon that of M. Dronya •• : .:tor VCs. ' wa• ace to take span bimetal: It yr.rc eir • rimer / wino M. Gross mig sisals had • , or call sham M. Oros finassated h a l cemel, that Mr. Wyss was le women& mid imandiataly, too en that ewe. It was fart hyr agreed, sod ea g ip that if a dilkeeste of opinioa arcs between gr. Won. spin these points which M Ores I „ to thongs, Mr. Wise was r to stand out •" „. u^ r, p • diareence. and that, Ulu did not think , 5 •4 etre troy, he was—tostead of saying, "Now, -r minion Is v. an cad"—to refer home fog it is said sow that it was vety MVOs of tole seat to Mr. Wyse itemisation, of *at grt ors t e n r •-n os the eth of April, and la. t • " N iw, in the ant placer I had a'read r!4!,A. y ". on the :in of Monk, isstrac• ins which I ' iey situ in the spirit they w.re write's, would "'.. reiciitee unateemary, and whirl did render it 'yeasty. at la.t, wit.. M. Oros mud Mr. Wyse " • the is ant to be paid. M. Oros said ea' cu o:i the ger. salient of Ore's, to pay t` • end when Mr. Wyss kid he • .: still, though that differing* exist» Mr. WIN, at hitt, sick more prar'ently •; „ g the differssre home, sad thereby imposing : .=sera to the Jetty of a whok mouth, during lo wa most tk. a bale remained in Matt goo, .:ter thinto ate &crew! to, I will come dowa ra y, :.nd I will r vein the sum you lay the Greek . 0.1,/ht to pay." iLrth minhiterial cheery.) ;•tac..0.11.• on the rent., that cast cid am min Cats them inttruc•iots could apply. (fear, hear.) • : .::.o.ass , n trey had reached Mr. Wyse, would 01103 to the libretti which did arise betigeon g woe. for that different* was thu—it turned on racitin. /I Oros, on the 16th of April • ; t • r.cosanned to the Greek goner meet to Erne re•oweett w onertigate the claim of M. Paean .; the lose of hit .141011111011til, to pay to his what . • 5401 the amnia which upon investigation Is •• • to be their value, aad to make a deposit of • !twain+ as a pledge of (trod faith. Aid :.• L (teem.* het ;sea Mr. Wyse sad M. Ono •• •., am ilia , that hi. Gros proposed •lersr. tank they bath agreed should be shares , • ...- ei Athens, sbcald Timis in the Berk of sheens Mr. Wyw trquir.d that the amount r yit..l tither in 'he Bank of England, sr, if X• . • -.fem.! ic, in thr Bank of nine*. That cress to .I,rtitte that mi4bt easily be adjusted. Bat on tho M. Geo. ktered irk opt». a. Ile retramid r. that pyit.t. He laid later innrsistion from , t• 1 .Leiteed km that M. Pullin's claim was sule wood sot consent to retain:mead •71. • 1. Tersm•ct to enter into say engagement to pay ; r Be w aid gamy oat no investigation, but le the debt of rornegst, it mu t be Portugal • - ..• ;so aLd she the Greek government. Well, ...:it "-Am .hat M.Groo vs. competent to act upon. .• ear." and loud ministerial cheers) It was a se :, . oe of the peimiphs of our demand ; and I sever of easing to an understanding tintypes see llr. Wyse ws• to refer hose for ins-rue , • • 5... r heal inersetions cn the 23th of Match, • • to pile kis on that pont. (Hear„.) s witkbew from the negotiation. Hhesz He had e....•..• r 'Alp Ey a communiestion to Mr. Wyse, but ; et ski to the 13: goveramest. Oa tho . . :ospatch from General Lahltto giving an • •• coseensiion I had with M. Droops do %it the amount is tot comedy given. It s-• . umed that, if the arenspinest did act 4: Teresa» was to be had at bow. . , . •a% and thereto» it is not cosset. „; ••• . Tuoi being th• cos.. I am - -.-t , ro note of yesterday, sad let us re fer host •., • W-li, an isapronion km gone areal era: '--era the 24th—M. Oros reativad and . - e4 • Wyss ant merely as ageosat of this r •••••• and M. Decays do Unison thy. .; •r. ..s• .f the esientasi beak sad of the near . h. .r..* of a convention which was proposed for tt• • ••• to • ma en the 13:11, which au di/cursed : •' • •is, which Ir..SafTlNd to ca the 18th, and . • Sir. Wyse has bees greatly blamed •._ • ;..rr and is Fence, ups the amagaptios that •• • N ter 4 taken» him c o ate 2lth of Apia that the . 4' r, nth goverament. had come to as agreement • basis of $ conontian to be taped, sad . • :Jain bin that that eosvention was sootily .r • - :.:at noverthelon hi renewed coercive meaner. .• mention, to far as Kr. Wyse is concerned, is u; true—(load ministerial chess)—is testae and (Renewed mitiaterist etreen.) Mr. Wyse . communkatioa fres M. Oros on the 24th. nor '1(51,5 it earner them the 2nd of May. relative to .'art of asonwestios of any kind cr sort. Witt they M. refititell that communication or not on the 24th se to be settled between him acd his uverenie nt. I • d to believe that he did receive it. It was die. stated by " ear own ofnearndent " of the -11001 latghterl—that M. Oros did inform Win ea the 24:h of the eawyeatioa, sad is 1 that Mr. Wyse rowel coercive measures. I en• ... the name's flovenunest to soy that that was as .cakt—that M. Orts did not receive that informa .• therefore, coald not have communicated it. Be a• a may, Mr. Wyss certa;sly did not receive it. . h etc) Therefore, sir, that complaint against Mr t t tome from whatever quarter it may—sincerely Id it was at the atoseat—i• now disallowed, and Is entitled to credit. (Hear, hear.) Now, with ,:her complaint, that I did not write to Mr. as .a.ount of what reamed on the 9.b of April, the et i.r that is, that be was already in possession t: _Le, which were taat.ssouat to a cimaninniesrien t. t• 1. • sad that on the ear titer arrangemtat I. re 'feu. which, providing for immediate settlement t. •r e t, reunited ftlerenees home oat of the qaestion. H.lf bet it is said, " the Preach oonld have seat seal sty conida't you ?" The answer to that fa,—l •/* T.,. kletlOU ; they were fa Paris. Oar steamers t. . ere .th truald have beta a 101 l time ping to frt. • wsl4 mot have reacted there so soon as steamers Mert.s.lss (Baar, hear.) But the coaveation t• •te ::tee 'el.. screed oa, and sent oat, that convention re. a.: luau Mormon unnecessary. And when it thew contends of oars were so mach repudiated r , sertsenie of Itmeste and Frame, and that oar :tete Inroad ram the risk of involving this country •+•. 1 ass: be permitted to say that, with regard to toe lute r .eipa , ch of Count Newelrode to Baron L• c •. 01 tts 9J of le`yruary negatives that aster. .:, fir it sags that th e comp:aint is that we ' . 's eantics is attentiAt to the government of !• • •• toniesm:cating with them at the moment— :sew lo'.l two years ago, it. October, 1847, that the •••-• • .• tetra,' - rhea we Mali think it nemary to have t t • CArCkla, and that it at the moment when we bad t. :Lott meteor.'. we hai a•ktd them to 1;.% iti L-4.......4ce,y1eiy ,o:d have used their sotto to iodate e,i , fLOALI O. f.irteos to WAN to an makable settlement, 4.: ....it .1 di-.e had tailed, they mild sot have • - .e.1e.1 that we skoe.ld have yomposed our measures .yeltreati to their wistas. (Hear, and eh"".) tisa I, to Frame sad the umb-telked of convention of t" ,y... ynctlp , 1 '4"1.7. a • • •••votiui whisk acknowledged all 01 LW and the security which we tE•eight sad right 'dear. Liar y lam sorry that that C.Lltt.ti...ll did LA init. beta, LoOther Settlement took t , " 1 ; 4 *a . 1, 1 Mr. %,, who pat as ord to Ps. (!t4 t L. 6 0 . .4&:1'..L. 64 M. fir s himself 'oilaol/y sad by cgamucieatiws whlttuttl not only to Mr. .t the gov.rameat of 'Erases. He (N,, i.e.) iris. Ho was strudel, .F . I'o .t 46.4.). ILI ti came tit Wyl, 'e, and I wul tetwra_goewy eat let what , 11 t o ri darnel as a dream. Mr. Wpm said, " . that , Oat I I,•ve sauthir proposal le make, sad 1.T.Y010.114 111141*. lißk Me to refer to • .tp these Greek ' , nee!, is custody sate. pendia, tie reply, and to subject perud Greek tontesente to as node hentiaa. I will propose another coarse. r•• ,%. rum at will wed we 194,000 drachmae, ti• tam I t' quite, with a letter stating that that in 'at %rattan et all our claims, excepting the 11. I'a bea n in respect of the Portuguese docuineats, use or ouutiou the st .tat quo, but at -* •L tht Grttk yowls, excepting ore or twog: t.• ha th e f a il i i ment al the arreogesnat gement w.eld have heist° leave to futon be p. n„ which Mr. Wyse sad M. Ores diffend. • at• tie. pled the carnation wr uld have arrived la I ets.l4 have kneed the basis of the itettlemeat, sad have .eased. What was M. Or is' whose ;•, ;•• Why, this. I have withdrawn how •• •• Witten.) I rant anneal to it." " r although M. Gres cad, " I have officielly wi th. • t , tatited tt ha Gal none kaolin Mr. N= 'he rovers*. at of Urgent, oddity!, " • ••• h•qinuff4W p u ss will pt the mess y you have • • 'ideally ispiyioo, at least, that he had 4 the Greek goverament to comply with the 4. Mr Wyse. DM Mr. Wyse catch at the lint ..pourtaaity to yet Sir Willie. Pukes to ,fteests i Far from it. (awn ) • ' I•alli w rteil till the 24. b, and from the 21% •he waaad till hoe o'cleek rune and west be wed. hie eelnetaideatias that COltfeite runes ma 4. Mr. Wyse therah,re did rot pal as cad to " • Itieetiaos, and did aq alto, soy lodination to re ".:,-,vs measure., for Ee sot only intruded IL Oros t•, toalinue his lent You, bet after them lunation had wiesed, be intonate& Ores to renew his mem at least of easelfation. (Hear Mar.) Negotiations have dose then taken plea; betimes Freese and lies#sad, whisk aim to sey kayo brought the man n/ te • eatiakMery Wo we Perfettisr•Z aus • meoptuselk part of W esemetten bola to the things that rani to be Amu 110 Ihr•Wat oem to sleep that mavaniiin Weasel of whet nee am the 2 a =s a the spot Bevis( resolved deadleheu sod it we den's Wein ea the dillmanes between that min sad the min lammed the sesvenalen. with Athens, whish wrest ameba let M anew to M. Paeiheo; as has been mails tor the es that the °sly exalt/V:5 to be meth" was the meet whisk was to b• mode fee laelatleatiog tba agi dait e i:( M. Panties. It,. Wyse's ansagemist was an essisage M mum, bat m that mly Made the esirthater, and might be dis avowed by his emesseer. Kr. Wyse required • substantial security by • lodgment of • sou of meoey—the Invade tion to be made by the sourreamsta of Grosse and Hog. lead. Tr. ormvende• I had settled with M. Dronyo de Limp outland a diplomatist guarantee Mewed, to I be ratified by the two sownlgeu and a wintsti•- , slue of 'shanties be be amid hp the three governmeats. We at. prising may to sellotiente stint if the Greek gamesome cheeses It. If Om Greek Le:rameat prefers the arreagement the emainilina, we prepand lad seat out • draft, enbititutlng It ler the strange moot of the 27th of April. If monitai • saletestial depend will be no kelp r wiesesety. Thom was ens Oat la Mr. Wyse's artangesseat not Included fin the drat et the moven/ea we known—as it applied to obenenstrems wades we wets am thin 'morsel'. Mr. Wyss required so mime. meat ea the port of the government of Green mot to put forward my claim ter Wailes arising out of the p re p we have had neoures to. Mr. Wries reason far defog that were that he underrnod the genememeat of Grano intended to pat forward claims to a image moons'. We attach no Tilos to Skit engagement, as beering_in any masher whatever upon the validity of nub claims. Them daime have no kmadation whatever, sad if pat forward by the Greek government, the mower meld only be what right mad memo would segpst. Bet the nature of that engagement was, that by secure leg ourselves agalcat soon daises, we p revealed the Greek government from reaming a dioces ans which might lead agala to • seaspeaskot of frieadly relation. (Hoer, hear.) If kn. madmen an peepand to wen, iomeed of that, the coed cease et Frame to a erne the King of Genes net to put forward any such teatisaded claim, thus *annuities all the differences between England and France in regard to this matter. (Cheers) Indeed I believe if it wen not for the disceri en which is coming ea the mad Assembly the destiagnistied individual who represents the government in that as sembly would have been present here this event's' to hear this debate. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) Br much then tot the termination of the affair of Greece, which I have taken first is order. There remains only the question of them far-famed islands of Seekonk sad Cervi, respecting which my opinion is clear and decided ; sad that opioioa is supported by my prede cessor ia offiya, Lord Aberdeen. (Bear, hear) The case is simply this. There wen wreaks islands off the coast of Green whisk, originally belonging to Venice, were by the treaty of 1800, hewn. Runde and the Porte, erected to e separate state. Pour other places belonging to Venice were restored to the Porte. But the seven great Islands were erected into as Independent state ender that treaty, which declared that the constitution thu that state was to give to itself should be communicated to, and have the sanction of, the Suzerain, and the protection of Russia. In 1804, in execution of that constitution, they made a municipal distribution of the small islands allotted to the seven larger islands, end by • public amine Sapiemsa was aggre gated to Z sate, *ad Carve to Cerigo. They have ever mince been considered by Itneish governments es Imian islands, planed under the protection of England, and it is well known that Eeglisli officers quartered in Cerigo have trequently visited them, and always acneel as it tb.y Woofed to Eng'and. The li6itatisa of Greece was specifi cally made by ti e protocol of 1530. The whole frontier of Green wee settled by that protocol, by a fine on the mao, sad by words. It deme-ibed it as from sea to sea, but tLe islands were eauxerated, and well koown, but the enuenerse don did not include Cervi ' 'such lees /helical. It was therefore impossible that the public acts of Greece included those islands, and if the Greek government took possession of them, it wee dear that it was they that had Intruded upon the lonian state, and not the British government. (Hear, beer.) That question, however, did not form part of our demands. It wasteparate, a-4 remains open to free discus-inn between Greece and England, and England, France, and Rue-ice, who are undoubted entitled to he heard on the subject. As regarded the government of Rursta, it appear. by a dispatch of Client Neeselrode, that they were aware of all this, because I mentioned it to Benno*. The Greek government committed en act of pomess:on, which they never committed before. Oae of thew baits, driv n by mese of weather, liberated convicts oa the island, and acted as if it was a Greek tend tory. It benne Leeman to demand an explanation, but it WWI not a matte, which required the employmeat of force. I now name to the wider wage—(tsar, Iner)—which has hems taken by the right hoe. hereon who spoke last night. Tom right too. heavyset took the proper view, I think, of the qu's'ion before the house, because the 'violation does not confine itself to or.. particular set of her Majesty's go- TIMIIIIII,III regardicg foreign affairs, but dies involve and neon considerations of all those o pin to which the right hon. heroism referred. I agree, however, with those who have said t :at the revelation does not involve Retire approval of everything that has been done, because it could henry be exp:ated that mien with different ialonnation and different views, not knowing in all cues the preese grounds upon which th- government act or the prin ciples whi.th guide their conduct, would implicitly approve of every met of that government; but l admit that the right boa. baronet was justified in taking the larger rug* welds the resole:lon op-ned to his view. He must, at the same time, allow mew set him right as to the first point on which he touched. He stated, what is no doubt true, that when he was a m umber of Lor 1 Grey's &Melina ration, he concurred with me ir. many acts el tontine policy which involved snore iuterpesition in other countries. The right hon. bsronct instanced the e egotiations regardieg Belgium and its separe ti n from HolltieJ, and he dad image to the views which guided the 'overcoming of that day, believir g with them that the independence of Belgium would conduce to the peace of Europe. Bet he said that that was a different case, bonus.• every step of that imp:hails wee teken with the concur rence of the is h4e lye powers who were parties to it. He mid, to be sure, that geese things were done that went beyond the mere neootiation such as the siege of Antwerp, and one laying an em bargo upon Dutch vessels. (" Hear," and a laugh.) The Agin hon. baronet said that in then steps he cmscorred ; but were they taken with the full encerrence of all the five powers? (Lend cheering.) Wits these measures of such a description that they rendered it quits impoesible that the friendly relati nis of this country cou'd be disturbed thereby ? The right hon. baronet must recollect that Austria. Mode, and Prussia dissented from that nieuure—(cheers)— that they protested against it, and absolutely withdrew for a time from the cooference—(chen)—and that Prussia wee even collect. ing an army ca the banks of the Meng, ant that sh• not only sent a form to the siege of Antwerp, bet bad retirees, if menesary, in the course of that operation. (Cheers.) Memory out of *Mee is not always very good—(laughter)—bet, as the mistake in this intents is of importence, especially as upon the par ticular question which has ban determined in another plate, I feel it to be 118, duty to cornet it. If ever there was an experiment that fully and completely succeeded, the experiment of erecting Belgium into a separate state was that successful exit, want. (Cheers.) Why, in times when all the other countries on the continent of Europe have been convulsed from top to bottom, Belgium has remained quiet ; the people have shown the greatest attachment to their sovereign, the sovereign the greatest confidence and love of his people. The people I have made advances in industry and in the arts, in every qualification that distinguished social and civilised etates, that reflect the greatest honour upon this Belgian people ; and they have moreover sequined a spirit and a sentiment of ' nationality which entitles them to the respect of every other country in Europe. (('heers.) Well, I say then, the: se fir ai we were concerned in effecting that arHlTerneht, think that is a case to which we can refer with pride and satisfaction, and can justly claim the approbation of parliament and of the country. (Cheers.) It was not alto gather without difficulty, not only in other countries, but at home—it was not altogether without opposition that we were able to carry that negotiation to • suects,ful issue. Well then, sir, the right hon. gentleman says that he was also a party to another operation which alio ddlered in some degree from pore and mere diplomatic intervention in the Whin of Portugal in the treaty of 1834. Well, sir, what wee teat treaty ? We have been accused, I has• been accused, esp.. daily of running a muck throughout Boron, interfering here and there in the internal affairs of all countries: and I presume, from the general tenor of the speech of the right hon. gentlemen, that it Le on that tendency, to interfere in the affain of other contrite, at least, that and ether things, that he founds his disopprottatioa of the conduct of foreign affairs under my management, as the organ of the govern sent. Well, sir, a question arose in Portugal between the rival claims of Donna Mane, represented by her father, Don Pedro and Don Miguel, her uncle. It did not much signify to England, is the abstract, whether this young queen was t• be sovereign of Portu o al, sad whether Loa Miguel, who was actually in poseession, should resole on the throne. We looked at the queston not as between one sovereign and the other, het as between absolute government on the one hand, and cons*itutional government on the other (Chem,) And you will say, what interest have we in that? Why, pined facia, when, we might have had a selfish interest in linear of despotism; beaten it is manifest that if we wanted to nowise indigene over a country, we should be IBM likely to have an influence where V,* government resided in a court and in a cabinet than where the government was vested is an assembly repro seating the patios. But we scorned to assert that int- red in Portugal. We knew that by supporting the cause of the constitution that particular influence would cease, but we found that we should reap other advantages which would more than counts/P*lam' any disadvantages arising from that source. We knew that the prosperity of Portugal, the cession of conflicts which had so long prevailed and kept down Portugal in the smile of natims,—we knew that the beat chance of enie( a stop to URN evils, and of de nimbi' the reesenees and prosperity of Portage) would be, is anodes to her the inestimable ed emas's"' of a free constitution. And therefore thinking as we did, that right was m the side of the party with whom waived the constitutionel limner, we and the tight hon b a rman with us, supported that muse, and we concluded a treaty between England, Franee, Spain, and Pottage!, by meats of which, through the tzertioe of force, Doa Miguel was le be expelled, and Dana Marta was to be seated es the throne of Portugal. I think that coarse was perfectly wise and defensible, and I think the right hen. 1011•18' leas Miffed to share with olle--(ebeells)-461noise nem above ell marrow- Waded prejaMee. nettilanhig fa that sit a forcible la terfarease ler In pipes of shim Postage' the Mesas. tef • Mr pleffilement. But then I Wallbe told that it did MN stimlasa. I *ball be reminded tint as late es 1847 thou lean smother hearreetien I. Pores/el, and mother igniffisamee, me Y it were fainted in the opeosita animas& New a ass of mamma sew ma morose that when pen pleat free lowitatbas la • soil is whisk Mee Mu hitherto grows, that they do at ma Main their fall growth, sad bear their atom* 61111. IS take. time to educate Ise* for the well. adminiamillea of temusentative government. (Hear) It tikes tine to reeenale In puma to submit themselves to the natioal of • ',penman* goverement—(Hear)— sad la the welter stages el emstitational experience we find cm the tme Mod that the ropmestadves of the people de not bring etiflicieat moderation, and sense, and judgment in the extents' of their females.; sad, is des coke, had, that the seaman of the ~renames see too jealous of the restraints imposed urea tau, and are eon- Manly striving either til elude those restraints or to break thus. Now, the fauit el these who are so woad of Washing me either hero, in this einatry, ot in other onatries, is that they always_ try to bring every question to • menu* matter. (Load skies.) It they want to oppose the policy of England, they say, " let u get rid of the mu who happens tote the organ of that Oahu." Why, It is like shooting • plantain As long as the English people we animated with the e; iris and opinions they express you may knock down twenty foreign ministers, one aster the other ; but you may depend upon it none will occupy his place who does not act consistently with their feelings. (Loud chem.) W.ll, then, whim it fells to my duty in the performance of lay husetioes to oppose the policy of a go verament, it is said, " That is all oat of spite to this man r the other—a mere petty spite 'gauss lb. man that makes yew differ from that policy." Aad so the right hon. bonnet says, "Your interference in Portugal Was not for the benefit of the government, bat to get rid of Costa Cabral Cuts Cabral Is sow minister, and thetefere your Interference bar been of no ue." Now, whether Coils Cabral or any other man is the Minister of Portugal, we f i at at that meant, when party war against party, when different classes had been in arms spawn each other, that to make the head of • faction, like Costa Cabral, mien tar of that country, would have bees to cease the recom mencement of civil war, and we excluded him for a time, not for ever. Till the Cones could meet, we excluded the two cleaning pertly', Costa Cabral, on the out hand, and those who were opposed to him on the other. And, therefore, I cannot admit the triumph which the sight honour able baronet thinks he obtained at my expense by bustiag that Costa Cabral, in spite of our inter ferences in 1847, was still mini .ter of PortugaL Then we some to Spain. With rapid to Spain, it is perfectly true that the right hon. baronet was not in office when the additioaal articles of 183.5—additional to the treaty of 1834—were agreed to. Bat what was the treaty of 1834? The object of it was to impel from the Penman not Don Wiped, but DontCarloe, who was at that time at the head of troops In Spain, and, if Dan Miguel bed succeeded in Portugal, he was to have gives him his assisouce to support him. Da Carlos hung come here and returned to Spain, civil war began, and the additional article. of 1836 were coneledia for the purpoes of giving to the Queen of Spain amistaaee, in order to enable her to maintain her ground and expel Don Carla from Spain. Now, this was a owe txactly similar to the one in 1840. We had no totem; in the abstract, whether the Queen of Spain should remain on the thrice or whether Da Cane should succeed to it. If nothing else had been at stake, that e as • question in which the government of Eat land would not have thought proper to interfere. Q oest ions of succession have been autos:son which other countries have concerned nominee, but only when it was their Latina to do so. Bat it was in Spaa, as in Pcitugal, • question be twee& • constitutional government sad a &specie govern ment ; and with regard to Spain as with regard to Portugal we thought that the Menus of England, in • commercial as well as in a ponied point of view, would be benefited by the establohnont of a constitutional government. If we have one interest more than another with regard to Spain it is that Spain should he indepoodent—that Buis should be Spanish, that 8,4411 should be for Spaniards, is the mail, that should be applied in our policy towatch Spain. Injury has 'risen to Lois comtry . from Spain beteg under the influence of other nation,. It is our interest, when we are at war with another power, that we should not oa that august,. and without any quarrel, be at war with Spain also. It is to oar advantage when we have no cause of hostility with Spain, and She nose with um. that ear peaceful re lotions should not be suspended, and we thine we are more likely to attain that result by a govern ment controlled by a representative assembly than from • goveramentpurely arbitrary. Therefore we unveil', epos grounds of policy. independent of those general watt. mats animating the people of this country at that time, that it was for oar interest to take put old+ Queen Isabella. Well, that policy la weeded ; the Carlist NUN failed, and the ' muse of the constitution prevailed ; and though General &seems is minister of Spain, I cannot see in that any defect in the policy of England. General Narvata is minister of Inas, but the constitution is la torn, and tho (anti Anion has of late been ' much more strictly observed than it had been at period, to which the right boo. baronet glided. Now the right hon. Want finds malt with • certain communication which in 1848, after • champs of government, 1 made to Sir, then Mr., Henry Butner is Spain, and the right hon. baronet Ink " Now this is as example not only of the interference of the noble lord, but of the manner and tone in which he inter feres." With regard to the manner and fonn, the noble lord read • despatch from Lord Abardees to 13. r Ed woad Lyons, dated December, 1845, lecturing the Creek government in the most unmeasured terms fur the down. sal of General Church, ant the appointment of General Grin. Low! Palmerston then went oa to say, But the right hon. baronet says this affair of Spain was of long duration, and of disastrous coca queens ; N unes from it followed events involving matters regarding another country besides Spain—France; and that from the question about the Spanish marriages arose differences be tween the two guveramen's, and between two men in those governments, which, according to the right Lon. baronet, led to the overthrow of the French monarchy. Here again comes that fancy for narrowing great an : national questions down to the smallest of personal (lantana.. It is said that it was my dislike of M. Gant, arising out of the onto:rums cd his adminittratioo, which overthrew the throne of France. (Hear, hear.) What will the French nation say, that highaisded and spirited entice, full of sense of their own dignity and vane, when they hear it' stated in the Britieh house of parliament that it was in the power of a British minister to overthrow their govern meat ? (Hear,heer.) Why, air, it is a parody upon the French nation to suppose that personal dislike on the part of any foreigner ti one of their ministers could hays that effect. They aro a brave, a generous, • noble-minded people; and if they thoug ht that • knot of foreign com vitiators were caballing against ens of their ministers— (loud cheers)—and for no other reason than that he thought he had promoted the interests of his own country—Omar, hear)—and if, moreover, they thought that that knot of foreign cony:rotors had c ikljutors in their own lied--(ltesr, hoar,)—l say that the French, who are • b-ave, noble, and spirited pupa, would scorn to he thus led, and would only cling thecae** to and prows the more, the man against whom such attacks were made. (Hear, bear.) Therefore, I say that it the French had thought that LOT any English minister, wanted to overthrow M. Ciaixot, so far from that accomplishing its purpose, it would have rendered him stronger andemon firm to the post he occupied. (Hear, hear.) Still, I must say, that, both in that country and elsewhere, it might have been better if statesman had read the proper lemon from events that have happened. We have nevertheless a difference with the government of France with rigged to those transaction.. I do not wi-h to re-open questions gone by. 1 do not wish to remind the house or the country of the grounds of complaint we may have had—justly, I think—against those no longer in power. (Hear.) But taking this matter as it io, and selecting it from the long list of item preferred against me, I must say in my own detente that that dissatisfaction was not groundhog,. I must say, judging from communications that were nude to me by the nob:a individual whom I butzetcleil in the ogles I itdm hold —judglog by di . state meats which I had from his month in that interv iew which always takes place between the secretary of state who goes oat and the Heronry of state who comes in—that promises were broken in regard to serials matters, which had been made, not only to ministers, bat which had been made between higher per,onageo—(bear)—promises which had n yet, that 1 am aware of, been broken in the history of Europe. (Hear, hear.) There fore I most be allowed to say that if we did feel dissuisfactioa at the events connected with the Spanish marriages, dissatisfaotion was just; upon every ground of national interest and national honour, we were entitled and bound to express it. I must add that I think the policy we have pursued in regard to Fran is a policy consistent with the interims of the country, characterised by those principles which the hon. and learned gentleman thinks ought to govern the foreign policy of the country, sad calculated, eminently calculated, to preserve, as it has preserved, the peace of Europe. I think that our prompt acknowledgment of this government established in France, the friendly relations which we maintained with that government under the sweeseive chiefs by whom it has been administered, show that we are animated by • friendly feeling towards the French nation, and that we consider the maintenance of friendly 'elation with that nation as not only con-want with and e 3nd uci re to the best inures... of both couutrios, but as forming a firm foundation fur the mainteuance of the peace of Europe. (Hear, hear.) Leaving the fertile plains of Franos, I am taken to the mountains of Switsrland, as • plies where I have to render • stricter and more difficult anoint. The charge against me there Is founded upon a book of Monsieur d'Heuseonville, in which be reports conversa tions between individuals, who little supposed at the time thit what they were saying would ever form the ground of suc.h •serioue scene Mon as is now made. The charge, as far es l recollect, is, that in July 1 declined a proposal of the Due de liroglie to mediate between the two parties then coot:goading in Switzerland ; that I changed my opinion In November and agreed to mediate ; that I purposely delayed the mediation in onto to defeat it ; and that, while I was sending instructions to our representatives In Suits , thud offering negotiations, I was privately directing them to singe es the event' of the war, so that the mediation might 031110 to an end. I think that was the substance of the statement. To the first of those awasations I plead entirely guilty— that is to say, that when the mediation was first proposed, it did not seem to me to be • ease in which this Nanny was called upon to mediate. The dispute anew be tween different portions of the cantons of Switzerland. The seven peculiarly catholic cantons mode a Sooderband— a aunt* hued, arid the other part of the canters arranged theme. lees in • different segregation, the immediate point at issue being that the majority of the cantons required Sh° lalaceit, Is "thdd tie 3dthil& Wilke law* tams& be de I so. There were oche wBegee quilling. bee that wee the retasad inmeetheae Melia% end It wee Maly that this' in= ef opinion wrath lied to ea appeal to wads; The malerity resteeded, tad I thin t li ro ltl, that this bond was incentletent with the of the met l i r :et federation, and that gonseques they were entitled le pat It down bj lens et amt. Oa the 75th of October, I wren a deptfsh to Mx Peel. be. elated ereffaino, whisk I alrusay Wei g 11 and I read it in eras r tie thew what wed Ikea M the goverment as to the civil wet thin ea the pith ' keg oat is Swilserland, and • meet e i few days before It break set, sad in corder to ask the house how it would be consistent with the *Males expressed to Mr. Peel, sad which he was In stnieted to express to M. °umbers, the president of the diet, is reported by M. D'Hausemeeille. That deer/etch was to the east that a civil war was as the eve of breaking out between different sectious of the Swim nadirs, and as civil war wee the greatest calamity that Gould befall a wine great respensibility would rest en these who, without an onnulleg nemesity, would take the ant step to set Bow. The sent evil would be the too probable (surfer ism of forage powers. The Vorort wee also tad to lams-' late the ghettoes of lesenelp end Ware, whether from the character of the people of the seven Can tors, it was not doubthal whether they would ruccoed, and, eves if they did, whether it was not proba ble that foreign powers would he called in, who would gin more effectual aid to the Sonderbued, and, Use, whe ther they would then remain la the same relative position towards foreign lemon which they now occupied. Seek was the sentence of the despatch ; and I went on to say " that the beaten party awes s gets the wont of it." (Leughter.) I mean not for the moment, but permanently. I added that it was for the Vorort to take them thiege into their coneideratioo, gad that I should rejoice if they abstained from a Doane so replete with hazard and desire to Switzer land. I desired that this despatch should be confidentially read to M. Ocheenbein, which was prompted by the friendly interest which her Melones government took in the affairs of Switzerland. (Laughter.) That is the despatch of the 29th of October, sad on the 4th of November it was read by Mr. Peel to It. Oehmethele. M. °Amebae replied that civil war was a great calamity, but that the challenge was thrown down by the Sonderbund; sad he showed various reasons why it was impossible for the Vorort to pursue any other coon* than that which they bad already pursued. That took place ea the 4th of November. On the 6th of November the Due de Broglie communicated to me a despatch, which is also to be band is the blue book ; bat hon. gentlemen, I am sorry to say, refer getting their diaconate from pamphlets and foreign newspapers to getting them out of the blue book. (Cheers.) This despatch was from M. Gain; and it proposed a measure which was to be adopted by the an great powers for the purpose of petting an sod to the evil war in Switzerland. I have peen blamed for not at once somptiag that proposal, end fur delaying till the 16th of Nov., knave* it Is said that some other aliens ties might have nee eons to without so long a delay. Now, what was the proposal made 1 It was proposed that the five great powers should maks a collective declaration declaring that they would approve and support the ar bitration of the Pope as regarded the religious question then pending in Switzerland," that religious question being whe ther the Jesuits should be withdrawn or not. (Hear, Sear.) The Sonderbund would be glad to accept the arbitration of the Pope, who of °ours' would decide in their favour, but the majority would never have accepted his ar bitration feeling persuaded that he could not be considered an impartial authority on a matter of the sort. (Hear, bear.) The nest part of the proposition was that the settlement of the politi cal question should be referred to the flee power. ; th- 1 for this purpose a conference should be assembled in some tows in Switzerland, to which the 22 cantons were invited to i mod each a deputy for the purpose of examining and deter-' I mining upon two thieve—first, upon the means of mantic , time, and then to see what medications could he made in the federal pact. The despatch goes on to uy : I "We propose fortnally•to invite the belligerent parties to ' cease war, making them at the same time to understand that if they refuse our propositioo, and should persist in the w.r, we should consider the Confederacy as no longerieziatinp, and our engagements towards the Confederacy rescinded,' and should take council with a view to decisive proceedings." (Cheers) Now, in the first place, we felt that theproposition of the arbitration of the Pops was certain of being rejected, and that the proposition for a revision of the federal pact would not be accepted, because the government of Switzerland would claim for themselves the right of mating changes in the federal pact. (Haar, hear.) We could not, therefore, agree to the declaration that if they refused the proposition so presented to them the confede racy was no longer to be considered as editing, a confederacy existing by limy, and acknowledged by all the powers of Europe. (Hear, hear.) The proposition, in other words amounted to this, that if the Vorort refused our dictation, they should be compelled by force of arms to accept it. (Cheers.) That was the proposition to be made to the Swiss government by those who had recognised the neutrality of the Swiss terri tory and guaranteed that its independence she old be re spected. (Cbeen.) It was a proposition, which, if we could not =set of it, required time to wander what counter-propoeition should be made on our part. (Hear ) Ia the despatch of the 16th of November we made our proposition, which was to refer the matter to the tire powers, unaccompanied by asp threat of consequence in I case of refusal—whether it was accepted or rej,red. (Cheers.) The basis of my proposition was this, that the Jesuits should be withdrawn, either by the act of the Swiss government, or by consent te be obtained from the Pope, and that the Diet, on the withdrawal of the Jesuits,should take no aggressive steps against the minority, -and upon the assurance of that, that the Sonderbond should dissolve its separate Irons as being at variance wish the federal parka ment. That I considered was a just and fair proposition— (cheers.) —and in accordance with the principles which ought to regulate the foreign policy of thin country. (Hoar.) Some comesuaications passed between the French govern ment and our government respecting the acceptance of this preposition, the details required to be considered by M. de Broglie and myself. And it was not tilt the 26th of N iv. that we agreed upon an identical sot.—not to be signs d in London, as neon. ously stated—but to be presented in the same words us the Vorort through the agents of the two governments in Suite 'Fiend Twat was the sgreemsnt on the 26:h of Nov., but in the mean time—on tar 16th—I , received a communicatioa from the consul al of Silt :milked here founded on a declaration of the Vorort of the G.h which left small hope of the success of the mediation, for it was (timidly declared, on the pert of the majority, that they would admit of no foreign intervention in their dispute with the Sonderbund. Nevertheless, we thought it our duty to proceed with the mediation. The note was sent, not to Mr. Peel, but to Sir S. Canning l's present, who was then going elsewhere, end who had to pass through Switzerland. He was told to take Paris on his way in order to communicate with the French government; but he was informed then that the civil war was over, and that there was no we in presenting the note. In the meesitiess pewee ignitions were going on between the English and French governments. The right hon. gentleman says that the note was not approved of by the courts of Vienna, Berlin, and 81. Peterahurgh, and the bon. gentleman (Mr. Cochrane) nye that Mr. Peel declared that rather than present such a note on the part of his government he would resign, because it was at variants with his former instructions. I am at a loss to understand how Mr. Peel could possibly have told any such thing to M. Bois Ls Cousins, because our note left the mediation to be accepted or rejected as the parties chose, because it left no alternative of force ; beans* it went on the basis of a settlement of the Jesuit question according to the wishes of the majority ; because it went on the basis of a settlement of the dispute with the Sonderbund to the satisfaction of the Sonderbun d ; because it went on the ... basis of • cmnplete reconciliation between the two partial. (Cheers.) It was impossible for Mr. Peel to say that such a note was at variance with the despatch of the 29th of Oetuber. He therefore wholly disbelieved that the statement was made, (Hear.) And the only possible explanation he could give of the matter was, that If Mr. Peel made any statement of the kind, it must have reference to the original French note. (Hear, hear.) Now, es to the assertion that Mr. Peel sent word to General Dufour to hasten operation before the mediation could arrive, he wholly disbeinved. I Hear, heir.; nii i ceo say is, usat I never wrote a word either publicly or privately to justify any such proceeding on his part. (Cheers.) Nei ther had Mr. Pimperly, as stated, made any com munication of the sort or kind. (Hear.) Now I must say that the way in which this admission was exttacted from Mr. Peel does net tend to inspire me with confident* in this matter. (Cheep.) Here are two ministers of two great powers taking advantage of the intimacy and intercourse which subsisted between them and the diplomatic agent of another country, and pursuing him as • couple of grey hounds would do • hare, in order to double it (cheering) ;--endeavouring to extract from him by stratagem en admission of something supposed to have been previously done. (Cheers.) I must Illy that ikis per teetly conceivable that Mr. Peel, supposing that they were practising upon him, gave them as good se they brought —(laughter)—and that he mystified them. as they ought to entrap him. (Cheers and laughter.) And he might have said this in joke, to let them see that he was as sharp u they were. (Cheers.) I have now travelled down the Alps, and I came to the smiling plains of Lombardy. (Laughter.) I hays been amused of injustice to the Austrian Rivets meat by withholding a certain despatch from Prince Metter nich to Count Collared°, which cuntsined a denial of the intentions attributed to the Austrian government in Italy. But things were going on in Italy at the time which did not dispose us to attach to that despatch all the value that it , whops deserved. (Cheers.) For the occupation of Fer rara, and the threat of the occupation of Tuscany if the Tuscan goverament made certain changes in the National Guard, did not leod us to attach decisive value to the WU mation we received. (Cheers.) But if we bad not commu nicated this deepateb, why did not Count Collared° draw our attention to it, suing that all the time between February and August intervened from the time when the despatch was easununicated and the time it was moved for in the House of Lords. (Cheers.) IN, Count Colleted° was asleep upon the matter, why did not Prince Metternich call our attention to it ? (Hem, bear, hear.) But then we are accused of being abettors, and supporters, and encouragers of revolution. It had been the tate of all men who educate temporary ohmic , end conditional improvements to be desigaated es the champions of revolution. (.. Hear, hear," and lend cheers) It is the easiest way of patting them down. It is the established doctrine of those who are the advocates of arbitrary peerMaielite never to mind the teal revolutionists; them dangerous men were the moderate reformers. (Cheers.) The beat way of settles the world against him le by ailing him a revolutionist. (Cheers.) It w.s sot to make revolutionists that Lord Blinn) went out to Italy. He went out there to afford our mediati on between Naples and Sicily. I will now first come to the war in Lombardy. 1 do not mean to say that there was eaL a teeleei !WPM, ite intamational treatise , la the la of neigtetwertag territories. It may be wrong in Ibis ease, bet I think that there are WMp and esadisratleste erble may explain Um moduse which ow at bet eight 'moot Natty, sad same imailean. The Ambles gemennisat bad through their ambemeder asked ess kr mar mediation betweea the Alleviate mega meat awl the people of Lombard . Is the mama ef this tbe maltemoder was a to propose se the = N ett arraagesasat, that Austria should retinae all ellibt mid this M Lombardy. The Austria's coatemplated dui chat wield be the verall, bet are we to blame Ar 11=that that was an arrangement that was not amigo. te intereele of that Wien, and that it would sot he aeseptable. The reposel was put before Lord Minter, • and his inediadoa was looked for, but he declined it unless it was peril& te sake on arreagemeat which would be redisfootory. It was then said that we were guilty of a violates of geed faith to Rumhx Bat the proposal which Rs land wee ready to monde to, wee one whisk was made by Austria beteelf, and was esadusive to the interests of Austria. Then Lord Hint* was again seat to ; and mew it I s said that he seas expected to make this moieties. It was said that be was desieese of improviag the administrative institutions of the country. He found great difficulty, both laterally and externally, to overcome, las carrying out that object. We were told that the Mate of the law did not allow one sending each a minister, bat that It would be acceptable if we could wad oat a acafidential egest, a man of rank, In the am& loam of her Majesty's government, and conversaat with the institutions of this country, and of great diplomatic experimme. Now, If words had to be invented to depict the aerometer of Lord Minot", none could de It with greater exactness than the terms which he had just used. Lord Mint west out, and he did not do so for the purpose of delis, • free constitution, because he felt that you mat, if you wish to obtain one, first begin by giving a parlia ment bolero yea arrange the administration of justice fic such a meaner as to prepare men for tektite any part in a eon stinatiosall pventraent, Lord Minto went out to Turin, to Norms. and th em to Rome. He advised nothing bat administrative reforms, and so far as they were adopted they bore their fruit., and if what he had advised and no thiag more had been done, Italy would have derived great advantage therefrom, and the government would have re mised great additional strength thereby. (Chem.) But whims he was at Rome there happened the civil war be twigs Sicily and the government of Naples. Both parties And to Mr. Napier, the enarge d'Affaires, for a t . What did he do with regard to the goverment of Naples ? He said, " I will go to Sicily sad try to settle matter. if you promise me that you will make proposals that will be acceptable to Sicily. If you decline to do that my interference will boot no avail." Tne Neapolitan government could not make him that promise. The Sicilian goverameat then mimed a wish that he would try and intercede with Naples the same result Grow Lord Minto was then 'eked to go to Sicily to make an arrangement, and he said, " I will go with all my heart if I think I eon be of any use, but I know something of Sicily, and If attain terns, an not made my interference will be of no avail." Several hours were spent In council In the discussion of the arrangement,, and this is what is called the uncalled-for interference of Lord Mint*. (Cheers.) It wee sold, therefore, that he went over not to be of service to the Neepolitan government, but to separate Sicily fr on Naples. He had made the condition that the terms which he had been authorised to propose should not be made known at Palermo before his arrival. Ile attached great importance to his being the first to bring the annousueiment of these propositions, but when he arrived there he found that the Neapolitan government sent private messengers conveying the terms of the negotia tion that they were about to enter into, and which he was bringing, sad also that the French revolution had taken place, which in itself had determined Sicily to come to war sooner than ogres to the arrangements propoud, and the people had determined to become a separate state. (Cheer..) When he was told that that was their resolution, he told them that he came there on the part of Naples and of Sicily, and that unless he was received as the representative of the government of tie Two Siciliee he would not land. His good offices were, however, of no avail. Now, I will ask were these ants revolutionary. (Cheers.) And "'hero is the ground for saying that a friendly part was not per formed ? Then it wee expected that they should acknow ledge the Duke of Genoa as king, hut on what ground was it supposed that we should wish that the Sicilians would approve of it ? At that time it was supposed that the King of Naples would not be able to subdue the Sicilians. That was the opinion, but it was wrong. It was thought that the Sicilians would be enabled to declare themselves a re public. If we look to the interest of Naples, and the internal tranquillity of the Neapolitan domi nion, it was better that she should remain a monarchial form of government. The Neapolitan govern. ment was not insensible to all these considerations. Lord Minto, on that occasion, gave advice which was calculated to prevent a revolution ; our policy sat the policy of improve. meat, and was one which did no: deserve conounnation, but was in accordance with that course of conduct which it was our duty to pursue. (Cheers.) We are told further that if it had not been for the war in Lombardy this indispensable interfereace of Russia would not have token place. It is my opinion that if the indispensible assistance of Russia was n ot called in in the Hungarian war it would have terminated dif ferently. We are not at all to be blamed se regards the result of the conflict in Hungary. (Cheers.) With regard to toe question which arose with regard to Turkey, we have been also blamed, not for the politic course which we put sued, but for the moral and material assistance which we afforded. I have an b We recollection of the matter, and I know that on that occasion all differences of parties were merged in the high national feeling, and all felt that the government would not be just i• lied In the rejection of the appeal that had been nude. It had been asked why we were not content to send out our despatches, and not to send a fleet. That would have been a very unwise and imprudent course of pro ceeding, ac a long interval would have taken plate between the day of our despatches reaching St. Petersburg and the time of lessen beiug received. The interval hevened be•ween the Gth and 26th of the month. Russia and Austra had used the most virulent lan go age ; they had demand , ..i in the most peremptory man ner the ioimeotive surrender of the Hungarians. They said, ualess we receive an answer without delay we shall hasten our operations ; in shoot, they plainly intimated that a re. fusel might be followed by a war by Russia and Austria against Turkey. Our government bat no mesas of knowing whetter these agents were authorised by their government., and it was impossible that between the day when our despatches should go to St. Petersburg and Vienna ' , and the day it became necessary to send a fleet, that the fleet would reach the place till after the return of the answer. We did that which men of prudence, meaning to do that which they professed, would have due. It is I said we made a threat against Russia and Austria. I utterly deny that in sending the fleet there was a threat against either. The fleet at the Dardanelles was not a threat against Austria. If it had gone to the Adriatic, it might have been considered as a threat. If a fleet was la the Mediterranean, it would not be a threat against Russia. If a fleet was off the Dardanelles, it would only he a signal of support of the Sultan, if he should be attacked and threatened. It was a message purely of defence, and not a measure of offence. Thou we are accused of violating the treaty of Unkiar, She lessi," and the treaty of London of Juiy, 184 f, between the live powers and Russia, with regard to the passage of the Dardanelles. The way in which we are accused of violating the treaty is by ordering Sir William Parker to enter the Dardanelles By the treaty of 1809 between England and Turkey, we bound ourselves to respect the ancient rule of the Turkish empire, by which, whilst Turkey was at peace, the Straits of the Boephoeas and the Dardanelles are closed against ships of war. But it was not until 1841 that the engagement was taken by all the other powers. I concur entirely with the right hon. baronet in thinking that that was a wise and rlitic arrangement, evi dently advantageous to Turkey . in the first place, and con ducive to the peace of Europe in the second place ; because whoa we consider how easy it would be (if these narrow straits were to be open to the armed ships of ether countries in time of peace) for a maritime power, when she bad a dismission with the Turkish government to sup pon ire Bl ndly representation of her minister by the accidental visit of a large fleet, whether from the Black flea or the Mediterranean. I think it is essential for the independence of the Porte that no other power should be permitted to enter those strait.. It so happen. that a: the entrance of the Dardanelles then I. a large wide bay bitumen the outer castles and the inner castles, whore the channel is narrow and continuous. In the laser castle resides the Shah and the Consuls, and there tonsure taken by regulations established in 1843. It was stated in general terms that foreign ships of war and merchantmen should be admitted to this bay for safe anchorage, and there wait until they should know whether they would Im allowed to proceed further. When our fleet arrived on the coast of Asia on the mainland, the Turkish govern ment gave the information that in certain states of the wind and weather it was nut safe for large vessels, and ought to send authority to the Shah to admit our fleet into the outer anchorage for safe riding. This was oommunicated to Sir William Parker and the Consul at the Dardanelles, and a week after the fleet arrived there and there remained. lint I had written to Sir Stratford Causing to say that he should take especial care that the fleet should not enter the Straits of the Dernanslles; and Sir Stratford Canning immediately communicated to Sir William Parker informing him that as some quest on might arise, to go as soon as you can to some other plats,. where you can place your fleet in a place of 'county, but do not come within the gosiguovteehrreshasetivistsoono made th tedn e ed D erd ar e pl d h, e asea n: t tl hi s tea s. tipor. T .s he noc l it ios otth ei i.o an ur an aiati d e.tt A etr us in tr tN i hv a ii n e bey was not a violin in of what was intended by ths treaty. We thought it batter to adopt the interpretation put upon it by Russia, and we considered that henceforward the treaty muse be considered as excluding ships of war from either of the straits. Now, I think 1 have gnus through all the head. of chaise which have as yet been stated. (Loud cheers.) I think I have shown that the policy of the government in all these transactions in repaid to what it has been impugned has been throughout guided by those principles which, according to the resolution of the hon. and learned gentleman, ought to regulate the conduct of the muumuu. of England in the management of their foreign relations. (Cheers.) I believe and think the principles on whisk we have acted.» those which are entertained by the grimmest of the people. (Cheers.) I am convinced that those principles are calculated to tend, as far as the influence of England merbe permitted properly to be *Remind, in , regard to the destinies of other countries, to conduce to the 1 welfare and !utopia's' of mankind, to the advancement of civilisation, to the malateaance of peace, te the develepmeot of the remearess and prosperity of all countries, and to do honour to the country in which we live. (Cheers.) I de not complain of the conduce of those who have nude this question the means of attacking her Majesty's minister. (Hear, hear.) The government of a great country like this is andenbtally an object for fair and legitimate ambitious among men of all shades dopinton. It is • noble thing to be allowed to snide the policy and the dntinics of each a country as this, and if it ever was en object of honourable ambition, ft mast more than ever be so at the moment at whisk I am speaking. (Cheers.) Whilst we have seen, as has been stated by the right hon. baronet (Sir J. Graham), Europe rocking from aide to side, thrones shattered, institutions overthrown and destroyed, wises' almost every country of Europe has been a scene of oonfiiet whist' has deluged the lead with blood, from the Atlantic to the Black lea, from the Baltic to the Mediterranean, this country has presented a spectacle honowabls to the people of England, and worthy of the admiration of the world. We have shown that liberty is compatible with order, we lave shown that individual freedom is reconcilable with obedience to the law, we have shown the example of a nailsa is which every class of society accepts with cheerfulness the lot which Providence has assigned it, whilst at the saute time every individual is constantly striving to raise him. self is the steal scale, not by injustass and wrong, not by violence and illegality, bat by persevering good con duct, and steady and unremitting applaation of those moral and intellectual faculties with which his Creator has en dowed him. (Laud cheers.) I say, to govern such a people as this is indeed an object worthy of the ambition of the noblest man that lived in the land, and therefore I find no fault with those who may have endeavoured to place them nine In so distinguished a position. (Hear, hear.) We have not done anything In our foreign policy to forfeit the confidence of the country. (Chant) I 'attend that whether in this matter, or in that, we may lave; acted no to the opinions of one person or snorter, and we know by esperience that we do not find any number of per sons entirely agreeing on any matter, making allowances for these differences of opinion which might fairly be ex p.cted amongst those who generally concur, yet I maintain that the principle which can be traced throughout foreign nations se the guiding rule and directing course of our proceeiings—l say that those principles are inch as deserve the approbation of the country. (Chan.) I fearlessly challenge the verdict which the hones may give on the question now before it, whether the prin ciples which have governed the foreign policy of the go• moment, whoa duty it was to afford protection to our sub jects abroad, which we have considered the guide of our conduct, are proper and fitting; and whether—se in the days of the Raman, who held himself to be free from indig nity when be called ont, " Civis Roseanne sui "—an English. man shall be considered as protected by the vigilant tree and strong arm of hi, government against injustice and wrong. (The noble lord resumed his seat amidst leud and continued cheering ) Oa the motion of Sir J. WALSH, the debate was ad jouraed %moll Thursday next ; and the adjournment of the knee followed. aim erprefsg. THE EXPitEfiS, WEDNESDAY Et* _mak .9IITGOING MAILS. The Rails for Lisbon, Spain, and Gibraltar will be made up tammow morning. The mails for British North America and the United Mates will be made up on the evening o. June 28. The West India Mails, including Bermuda, Havannab, Nassau, Honduras, New Orleans, and Mexico, and excluding , toee for Madeira, St. Juan-de-Niearagua, New Granada, Chili, and Peru, will be made up on the morning of July 2. The malls for Maderia, the Brazils, and Bueuos Ayres, will be made up on the evening of July 4. The mails rid Marseilles, to the blediWrranean, Egypt, !ndk, IffeakKorg, &e., will be made up on tha evening of July 8. The mails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian Islands, ggypt, Ceylon, India, and China, via Southampton, will be made up on the morning of July 20. 1(11111 WATER AT LONDON FOLIDOT. T. D. —Neralet. 3' SA /Merges. 3% 23A. 3. 43s Artermas. 4s. o LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 26. THERE was a doubt at first whether the great par liamentary debate should be on the wide field of whig foreign policy, or on the narrow circle of the Greek question. It was decided late on Monday night that it should b 3 neither one nor the other, but that it should be • single combat between one mates man holding office, and another who hoped to step into his shoes, after slaying him not fairly in front, but by stabbing him from behind. Sir JANIES GILA HAm approached his antagonist with the most smiling lace, and the warmest profession of friendship, which was no sooner uttered, than he proceeded to stab with an empoiaoned dagger, seeking to show that the mi nister was not merely a rash politician, bat a menda cious and tricky one. Mr. OSBORNE, in the commencement of yester day's debate, did full jusrice to the malignant nature of this attack, and with originality of point and wit, cbaracteii.ed the twisting., and the slaverings, and the fascination, by which the serpent preluded to devouring his victim. It was reserved for Lord PALMERSTON himself to give a full and noble answer to this his personal slanderer, as at the same time to his more open, and more natural, and more generous antagonists. No one could have heard the necessarily long, I minute, and detailed statement made last night by 1 1 the Foreign minister without acknowledging that the refutation of every particle of Lord STANLEY'S special pleading was so complete as to leave not one single accusation unrefuted. The reply of the minister to Sir JAMES GRAHAM was as complete, and far more animated. The unblushing audacity or forget fulness with which Sir JAMES GRAHAM im pugned the minister's pol:cy in Pertugal which he himself bad approved of, were humorously exposed. The complacency with which the honourable baronet took credit for the negotiations respecting Belgium, and distinguished them from more recent negotiations, because, as he said, they were conducted with the consent of the great powers, was singularly disturbed by the showing that the chief measures of the Belgian negotiations were resolved upon and executed, not only with the dis sent, but in face of the menacing armies, of the said great powers. The miserable chicanery about Sir HENRY BULWER and Master PEEL was as felici tously exposed. No portion of Lord PALMERSTON'S speech was SO happy, or called down such universal applause, as that in which he turned an argument of Sir JAMES GRAHAM against his opponents. That speaker, in utter and in reckless ignorance of the subject on which he spoke, had accused Lord PALMERSTON of having plotted the downfall of M. Guizor and of Louts PHILIPPE, and having actually com passed it by the effect of his hostility. Such absur dity was not worth refutation. Were it the case, however, said the right honourable secretary, that a knot of foreign conspirators should have joined in an attempt to pull down any minister of france, we may be sure that the French people are sufficiently proud, just, and noble, but to attach themselves the more to any minister who was thus made the victim of foreign hatred and intrigue. An enthusiastic cheer from more than one aide of the house answered this appeal. It is, however, not to be concealed, that the chances of ministers obtaining the majority that is requisite for their honourable nold of ?ower has been lessened by the malignant attack of Sir James GRAHAM, and will be diminished by the expected onslaught of Sir ROBERT PEEL. After deliberation with the l)uke of WELLINGTON yesterday, that wary poten ' tate has, at length, resolved to take the field, with the idea that, when he has triumphed, the weaker part of the liberals will rather obey him than give a chance to the protectionists. A r. storation of PEEL will, certainly, be a singular result of a protectionist and lord. Entente. _ _ _ It is said, however, that so disgusted and indig nant is Lord JOHN RUSSELL with the manifest in trigue, and with the development of the long-con oocted plot, that he rat &tate' him-elt appealing to the country upon the merits of his foreign policy, and of dissolving forthwith, if he has but a scant majority. We do not believe that any amount of human wis dom will ensure to the career of either private or public life the exemption from trouble and embarrass ment, which is more or lees the lot of all things and of all men. Nor do we believe it passible to manage the foreign relations of Englund, so as to escape for a series of years all cause of alarm, of quarrel, and even rumours of war. Lord PstmettsroN has had a par ticular line of policy, which has been to advise each government to make concessions to its sub jects, and to be as liberal and con-titutional as circum stances would admit. Ilia lordship is now arraigned for having been so bold as to offi r any such advice. Tne whole gist of Sir Jsmys Glum IXt'll speech went to prove the crime and the imprudence of offering such advice, which, he said, indisposed the govern ments of Portugal, Spain, and Greece, as well as the greater powers. When in office, Sir JAsirs, indeed, auctioned not only advice, but most active inter fcreuce, not with the assent . of the greet Powers, but in their despite, as the s iege of Antwerp attests. But now times are changed. And the great principle of Sir JAM P.B Onxtr.tst's foreign policy will be the not-toes-verdure liberatudrice system. The whole history and the whole secret of Lord Pm, buns - rotes recent policy towards Spain, and towards Greece, and towards the Italian powers, was simply