The Express. — London, England, 1850-03-14 00:00:00

IM PE RIAL I'ARL LAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—WiDaIi3DAY, MARCH 13. The Sia•sna took the sniff at 12 o'clock. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. Mauna= BILL.—By Mr. COWAN, from Edinttursib ; Mr. ROUNDELL PALMER (semprel) ; Kr. CAREW, from 600 Camila' women, ageism this mll.—Mr COCK BURN. from • Carotin eamilsstatkia ; Mr. B. DENISON (18), from diStreat gimes ia Tarinildro, ia tamer ot Bassani Ossaavasat.—By Mr. HENLEY, from a Omaha Beekshire, la 'avast of some amours fat enforciag n hear ehmrvases of the Sabbath. Cavern Rayne Btu..—By Sir 0. R. PECHELL, from gtts: ; Mr. GIBSON, from the representatives of 40 la Beek' ham Mare, (10), from pleats is Wales, mai (3) tram Warwiakiki s all numerously sad nspectshly missed; Mr. HENRY. fain Lastasbire, signed by 1,131 ; Kr. DUNCUFT, from Oldham; Mr. WILSON MEN, from Westos, in Lutcuaire ; Mr. COBDEN, from inhabitants of Sadolswerth, in Yorkshire. snd from Ka guardians of Ktighlity, TAssordea, an Wortley sakes; also (24) from mfferent townships in Yorkshire, all raying far the estataishmeot of count, financial boards. AosiccLecam. DISTLISS —By Mr. HENRY DRUM MOND, from tanaat farmers of Guildford, and Mr. CARE 4', .rom • plass is Causal', complataing Catharsis, end praying for th• ymoval of restrictions ro agriculture. POST•OFFICII —By Kr. TOLLEMACHE (several), from Cis the county of Civrer ; Mr. COWAN, from &lir ;r4; Sir J. PAKINOTON, from a ociagregatioa st Dreitwieb, against Sunday Ishour in poet-offices. Gauls Laws.—By Mr. COWAN, from tee provost end I , teas ODUllell of Edinburgh, against the game lama. Farroar LABOVII —By Mr. BANKES, from factory macWe in Bolton; Sir 0. STRICKLAND, from Preston, is favour el • more easiest Ten Hours MIL DIRT us PAP= —by Mr. REYNOLDS (sire). from workmen emptied in the manulactutg in the coun ty o f Dublin, praying for the repeal of the duty on paper. PAPER DUTY. Mr. BROTHERTON moved for " • return of the amount of duty paid epos paper in the whole ex rise collection in Ragland, Wake, Seculaad, sad Ireland, for the last 10 years, stating also the totals for mak year."—Ordered. STAMP DUTIESILE TI ON SEM NEENT S. WSPAPERS AND ADV Oa the motion es Mr. BROTHRETON, • return was Meteredthe aggregate number of stamps lard fur newspapers in the year 1649, in Erotism/ and Wales, Scot lead and Ireland, respectively ; dwunguishiog the number at oas penny and one halipenny showing the number of London newspapers, the number el adverti•ements in them, Om rate and amount of advertisement duty paid by them, in the year 1849. And similar return as regards the Emilia provincial, the Scotch, and the bids newspapers (all in eon- Satiation of Parliamentary Paper, No.lBo, of StlibOLl 1849).' FEES IN COUNTY COURTS. Mr. HENRY DRUMMOND asked it it was likely that salaries weeld 'ma be fixed for the clerks of mousy sours, In lieu of Sea. as had been done with the judges. 82 G. GREY mid the duties of the ridges being much of the mune character mad occupying about the same proportion M their time, it had been found prat treble to Ss • uniform mobs of salary for the judges, the minimum being settled by the set of parliament. With regard to the cleats, the ems yea quite different, for the enlist of their duties was very verities, some, for instance, acted for a single court, others leek • outer district; beer it had been found impossible to Be • uniform salary. Bit G. PECHELL asked if anything was to be done with regard to the fees of the bailiffs, who were off. ring great Isesamederee et premed, and were positive losers. Sr G. GREY said that was also matter of inquiry. COUNTY BOARDS AND EXPENDITURE BILL. Oa the modes foe the second reeding of this bill, Sr J. PAKINGION said be rose to move the amend meat of which he had given notice—" That a select corn mitre be appointed to inquire into tee present node of levying and tioendieg the county rats in England and Wales, with a view to ascertain whether say more satis• factory mote of levyieg the said rates, and of giving to the rampayere more effectual control over their ezpeadi• ere, sus be adoptel" He wished to discuss the measure in the fairest spirt. He admitted many petitions had been pre sented is its faeoer, and was c aly anxious for inquiry berme legislating oa so important • subject The dieting man sgement mien be objeetioneble, but this :fill involved a most fealty principie ; and therefore he opposed the second reaffirm. In lee', the whole bill was objectionable, and its operation would be extremely unjust. He complained that the noble lord at the heed of the eroverament hied consented to the second reading of this bill, before hearing a word of the objections against it—apparently on the prin ciple that the votes of the house should be given fist, and the discussion taken afterwards. On so important • question as this, • measure eu.ht to have twen framed by government, and not brought in to suit the views of • puticular county. He believed the I origin of this bill was • squabble in the county of Lancaster, as to whether one lugs town or another should have the county locate asylum in it. Looking at the im mune duties of the magistrates, and their responsi bility for the peace of counties, they we re most properly charged with the regulation of the police ; and he could conceive of nothing more mischievous than to hand over this management to the proposed financial boards (Hear, hear.) shy grievance existed, this bbl would supple no remedy. It was framed for Lancashire only, where there were 27 unions, but no detached pardons of unions. Consequently, the board of 21 elected justices, and 27 elected gni/dime, would reposed' the present bench of 460 magistrates. In Worcestershire there were only 12 complete unions, but the County embraced Fictitious of other unions, the rest of which were in other counties. By the provisions of the bill these portions of unions would not be properly represented ; and it would happen that the men most capable of managing public business would not be elected. There were now 199 magistrates in the couuty of Woroe-ter ; these were to be supereekd by twenty-four elected officers. He mast cregging the distinction that had boon . between assaistrates and ratepayers • the fact was ia every county in England the maeistrates Paid the balk of the , and were, consequently, most deeply interested in their economical management. At present, every question of expenditure was watched with the greatest care; finance committees existed in every county ; and the business was, by act of parliament, conducted in open court. It it could is shown that popular control could be admitted without damaging 'austere! efficiency . . he would consent to it; but let the hews beware of destroying a system which was work lag well. It was a fallany to speak of the magistrates being irresponsible. The objection which the rates were expended were fixed by set of parliament, and the courts were open. He did not my that some improvements might not take place ; probably a better method of audit might be introdu - ed. (Hear.) Let the house beware of tampering with a system of voluntary exertion under which so large a body of magis trates rendered efficient service to the public. Mr. W. PATI EN said he must deny that this was a Lin. whin question, sad not an English one. (Hear, hear.) He could not support the amendmeot for a select committee, **house having already expressed its opinion in the last session that the eatery's of counties ought to have control over the expenditure. (Hear, hear.) He entertained many objections to the bill, and had the amendment been otherwise framed, so as to recognise the principle of poru'ar control, le would have voted tor it. He believed the question about the lunatic asylums in Lthessoire had added • little to the feeling on this suNeet ; but he denied that this bad been the origin of the bill. For yeas" pest there had been a strong Lsliag la that county on the subject of the county rates, arising from the injustice of the present mode of collecting those rates, by levying them directly on the occupying trent,. (Hear.) He had come to the home fully prepared to discuss the conduct of the magistrates in Lancashire, had it been brought into _ question. He (Mr. Patten) had attended a meetiog at Menchester, at which the right hon. gentleman who promoted this bill was pment; ratepayers from all pare of the comity were there, and cordially ap proved the principle of popular control; bet he thd not think this as it stood would inset their approval. He remitted the right hon. gentleman had not adhered to the bill of last session. . 71//7. HUME sold it wits • great mistake to suppose that eeelieinstreri county where the provisi , ns of 'holier/teat the prasaeessa of the bill had altered their plan ; it was bill were known and understood, that the measure should fan strictly e• the sentiments expressed at the meeting pee. In many pieces, to his own keno ledge. great dis elide had bun alluded to. The mover of the amendment eaashiction was expressed by the ratepayers, ()wipe to the shod for an inquiry. Was be net aware that a most ratan- want of control felt :„3 , them in the admialstration of fiscal she Inquiry had already taken place in itsss? lustsad of dean. ( fleet, hear this bill originating in Lastesshae, he (Mr. Hume) had Mr. B. DENIS°. should say he never beard a bill so lAtredelsed a bill is 1837 lined" on the reemnaeedalisall of palled to pieces by every member of that house as the pre. the eimmitta aimed to. The commissioners appointed is cent—(lsughter)—sad he felt certain it it should be sent nenee ll4B d retrammeaded that elteratila a should be made with before a committee, they would not agree beyond the first to th e management and expenditure of the fonds. pn rime ss whereas." (Laughter.) lie really was of opinion Tip reported 'bat there was no sufficient audit of the that no two clau-us of the bill c.uld stand before the *pt omaines, sad thst they were kept in such a state as to render nit's d en y mi..iii gen t aomm atm. them oshitelligible. Therefore he maintained that the Sir H. WILLOUGHBY begged to ask the house if they laglie7 which the ben. gentlemen wished for was already considered it a n ise principle to sanction the formation of • main. lowan I. the objection that the measure would l argo num ber of gesaeial boards ? It matters went to that. Ethe la th e maul to the ratepayers, be would only say that w hy no t defray all public expenses out of the general public ". eel" not be asieteeese. because the board was to consist hand hand of thslooal one ? (Hear.) alai r•Pereasiathres el the estePsiere, sad flia of the angle - Mr. MILNER OIBSON said he was not on the present tutus. (Has, bear.) occasion going to repeat himself. Ail he intended to do was Mr. PACLI said that, as far a he was parentally con- te impress this—that the buss was not forced to commit k arma, he could wish to be allayed from the management self to We atolls of the present measure. They were tidy of the county foods, bat he considered that this bill, if car- asked that, having adopted the manure, which, to the best tied, would throw e v er y thing this tharsath , sad be salad of the ability of those who framed it, they the ught was al gal", leePrasalealgs is ite °Yerstlea• (Hear. beer-) Hos. collated to c trey out the repreessativs spa m in oostrAling gas tkusea seemed to think ibat the maglausuo hod expenditure, the house would give the ropositins a change ealffidere war", see, . the entire *alien a the eaestre. of being submitted to a select caimittee, who would give W 11). the whole." the Leaarlf rate "mated to rely 31d. the matter full and deliberate consideration. (11. ar, hear.) In the pound. It was Ille to somas that the magistrates He thought the proposition was a lair and reasonable one. bed 'ay power to rob the single 61. beyond what they were (Hear, hear.) onthselead to de by various acts of parliament. He Sir H. lIALFORD denial the bill was hued on the mead vote for the amendment, and salmi the bill sumo oriociple of representation . The condition of representation eat el committee very much altered from what it was at was that those who eliesibt it should be iut. rested in the peosont, he would oppose its further progress. foods to be economised, as well as in the object to which Kr. 1.. HODGES mid that he approved of the principle they were to be applied. Now, tin maintained the cocupier of th e bill. but it sentained several clauses which would had no such atone. All the onerous duties fell on the render it. working quite impracticable ; these should be propeistoes, sots the occupiers; bet in any ease, la wes either very moth improved, or the bill should be threat eat ci opielon it was impossible that ta.y putt Wof the present altogether. (Hear, hear.) bill weld be adopted. Sir J. ORAHAM said he wished to state shortly the no Sir J. PARING lON said that u for es minded tithing visioe, las found h... then stood in • different rysiti.n tro . m W of the vote which he wu abdst to give. The object of that which be previously occupied. Ho was aware tha. at the bill was to provide fdr • bettsr administration of present every peace complained of the bill; and whether it .runty rates and was founded on the P I was worth while sending • widely d dwh • up Ours an ens emu a the latadoellea of popular enstrol over the " r irres ulei- po le sa .t . II ...ear, it might be ble power new exercised by the solgistrauss of England is Melee" be wee not Ord°l; to thy . rafts... as taxation . His b .,. friend (dad John Fa m ed . w an w en it tle d d ra C w on h a is derablyin c•mmittee . , and he legged therefore (Bier. hair ) I sa) mid that Ike sewers bandaged a "Sage of P re " The bell was a men d m en t. thenread• second time, send ordered to be thigoilade. That was very Wu; bat were thee o late referred to • *sleet committer. Eiso naseonstomod to shears ol ag gl u insonituds ? soes.) The reform of the bearaigh 'one of E .jr- PUBLIC LIBRARIES AND MUSEUM BILL. Wm • great change. Mar, hear.) Previous to that I Mr. EWART moved the second reading of this bill, the 0. pm( of »ilia g sates la iiil Wit maileipalitise was simple object of which was to empower the levying of a small THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENTAG, MAWS 14, 1860. rat. *the Pres. witei= o . 6 l nillibill .was Ind BeMee ea the W a. 7;6% e i rrapaset* abgat bur team slam is reftgengs be museum The binges headed minita• meadatina of a *kg inuelnitteee es well y• the ewer wish of several grim %B s Mir laden die Wing Beetlasid tag Ire • insikamits of which prayed that its sight be ex t en ded rto them. ss wan as- to the inhabiting of tomes end cities In Besiege. (Hear, beer.) The bill was calculated to brim j r b t o i nse to parties of all grades mental is provemeat, in t• way of amities them sonvenant with historical and gni literature ; and he would, therefore. wiliest further trinibliag the Mum. beg to Mon that it be read a second tine. (Hear, hear.) Col. SIBTHORP should certainly object to the almond reading of the bill. The easesare ter one whit* moues plated a general levying of towing ; and he wished to know if it was last or legal, or la accordance with the rules of that home, that such a bill should be introduced without previoasly befog suborned to a committee of the whole r our. He would like to bear from the right boa. baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether be ormosidered the principle of the bill eonstitutkinal ? Sir 0. OBEY thought then was nothing unconstitu tional in the bill ; it was merely an extension of ho pried pie of the Museums Act to an additional number of towns. Mr. BUCK would oppose the moond reading of this bill, because he believed that it would, by its operation, add ' to the already heavy burdens of the landed interest. The hen. gentleman by whom it had bees introduced had declared that many of the large tows, were la favour of it. He (ilr. Buck) believed that very few of the inhabitants of the towns in the west of England wve aware of its intro , duetion. The municipal omporatione were not the proper parties to carry ou t such an abject ; they ought not to be entrusted with the levying of taxation on the landed interest. ----- - Mr. 13ROTHEILTON felt bound to support this bill— first, bemuse it was permissive; sad secondly, because the rats empowered to be levied was limited to a halfpenny is the pound. (Hear, bear.) The building of a museum was left dependent on the voluntary contributions of the inbabi- The dui *AMP, lottulraz the provisos ament of tko tea house than divided, when then appeared— For the Rolla Against It lOl-17 Tie hill war thin read a second don. MARRIAGES BILL. Mr. 8. WORTLEY said if this bill did not come oa to. morrow (this du), ha would endeavour to fix an early day for it. Calomel BIBTHORP NOV* Raise, that on whatever day he would move that the bill be annenittod that day six authe. . TENEMENTS (IRELAND.) Mr. FREW= obtalasel MVO to briar in a MB to Mord to Ireland an ant dila Mt awl mend yeas of her present Mar ihollkotas the yeraarry of poteation ef taw ma ewe duismaatiou of the tenancy. TM Mao idloonted a kw minutia before six o'clock. taste. - Mr. GOULBURN thought the operation of the bill would be this. The town council', finding that they had not suffi cient funds to purchase valuable books of reference, would determine on having a reading room where the Doily News. the Times, and the CAeoniefe might be read, and chairs and tables would be provided for the 11911 of those who had lei sure to read, while the espense would be thrown partly on • number of persons who could not share an the enjoyment. Supposing • library to be es tablished, who, be would like to know, was to select the brie+ ? Was the library to be filled with presen lotion copies of the publications which were constantly being batted from the peer, and which were anything but calculated to improve the motels of the people ? So lung as such things were supported by ve'untary contribu ions, no objection could be fairly urged ; but ne thought that the bill was liable to the strongest objections. Mr. BERNAL said hie objections to the bill lay within the smallest possible compass. He entirely *greed with the hon. member to Salford, as to the advantages which arose frees the diffusion of useful information ; hat he thought that even a rate of a halfpenny in the pound should not be imposed by the town council for ouch • purpose, on the general body of ratepayers. He feared, too, that in some ilea' the lineal, weuld degenerate into a rub. Mr. HUME said the house ought, of course, to take care what powers it conferred. He entirely approved of the ob ject of the bill, though he differed from the boa. member for Dumfries as to the best mode of obtaining it. Had be read the bill berg that day he would have suggested to the honourable member the adoption of • prie• ciple similar to that which was applicoble to the lighting of towns Were the Mill adopted, he saw no reasoa why the Daily New, and the Tames should not he provided in the library. Rthdieg led to reit etim, and the public bent fit was thus generally promoted. Mr 0. HAMILTON said two questions , were involved in the bill—first, whether the law with regard to museums should be erended to the car of libraries ; seeendly, whe ther the powers asked for should be :tended to other boroughs besides those embraced by the existing set. With regard to the first, be c.usidered libraries quite as useful se museums ; with d to the second, be thought that pro- visions might he introduced in committee which would pro vide adequate security for the ratepayers. He also thought that the bill should not extend to boroughs having less than • certain amount of population. L ir , l J. MANNERS was surprised to hear the right hon. gentleman opposite erect to the second reading of this bit after his continued opposition to the repeal of the law of snortmain. Why were not schools, hospitals, and churches to receive the same benefit that it was proposed to attach to libraries and museums? He had been told that if he wished the absurd Act of Mortmain to be repealed, he must be either • Papist or • Jesuit. (Laughter.) As tar as the principle of this hill was concerned, no one was more anxious to support it than hiu a if. His experience of towns led him to wish that in every town, not only public mu seums but public libraries also might be erablished. At the same time, the public justly viewed with suepteicn any seessure which tended to arise ase the amount of lecal taxation. Mr. LABOUCHERE said he was inclined to take the view of the subject which bad been expressed by the hm. aseirber for Montrose. Every one who was acquainted with the tomes of the c evantry must know that there war a very groat want of criers to good books, a want which had in wane cases been in throe degree supplied by the establish cunt of parochisl lending libraries. Though he up. proved of the principle of the bill, he thought that it re quired alteration, and with that view would vote for the second rearing. The libraries ought to be lending libraries, sib. 'wire their usefulness would be greatly restricted. Mr. MILES opposed the hill, on the ground that it would empower then councils to tax ratepayers who would receive an benefit Mr. BRIGHT said there was evidently great accordance on both rafted thehouse with regard to the object of the btll,and he hised, therefcre, that the house would not cn account el certain ejections, which might be removed, refuse to read it • secan4 time. He would be ashamed of himself and of the house if he supposed that it would be neelosary to say a word in favour of the object of the bill. The right hon. gentleman seemed particularly afraid that the ratepayers would read the Daily News. (Laughter.) lie (Er. Bright) was quite sure that nothing would tend more to the pronsvai in of order than the diffusion of the greatest amount of intelligence, and the prevalence of the most com plete an lof en discussion, amongst all classes; and fur that ✓eason he reju.ced tnat the taxes on knowledge were to be discussed on an early day. He would give his support to the lez.mel rea ling, hut on the uoderstanding that the clause proposed by the boo. member for Rochester be added to the Mr. SPOONER agreed with the President of the Board of Trade, that every care should be taken to afford the work ing clawed an opportunity of reading ireeks, but he objected to tax large communities fur the bee.tfit of a few, with no other object than that of establishing normal schools of agita tion. He hoped when the Ten Hours Bill was brought for ward the opirlons expressed that day respecting the necessity of giving books to the working cloves would be borne In mind, and that if they were to hays books it would he ad mired that they ought to have time to read them. (Hear.) Mr. SLAM EY thought that the objection+ urged against the bill might b de „It with in committee. He agreed with the hon. member fur Manchester and others as to the admissibility of giving the ratepayers the option of establish ing libraries &c., but that was • p tint of detail. They had now only to deal with the principle to which the souse seemed to assent. Mr. IL. PALMER dissented from the motion that the Loose was agreed as to the principle of the bill. It wee no doubt a good *hive to have libraries in all our large towns. end he should be glad to see them in useful operation, bit that was not the principle of the bill. The principle of the bill was one of taxation, and besides that he hell :red it would lei totally inefficient for the objects in view. It would only enable a town council to buy buildings and furniture fur libraries and museums—leaving it to be assumed, which was no doubt the intention, that they would he fill. d with books, ace , by private individuals. Sir R. INGLIS raid he must oppose the second reading. Mr. HEYWOOD thought the asesaure would greatly tend to the increase of morality In large towns, and would, therefore, vote for it. Mr. WILL) was of a similar opinion. He also regarded it in the light of an economic question, both vies that the improved condition of the people, which it was certain to bring about, would have the effect of immediately dimi t.ishirg thus. rates to which the county was subjected on account of crime. Mr. P. HOWARD opposed the second reading. He thought that a till like this, for taxing a potion of the community ought only to spring from some spontaneous demand on the part of the people. lie also objected to it as interfering with private enterprise. Mr. OSWALD would vote against the bill as • Scotch menthe r, bas's the local rates in Scotland had been in creasti within the last six year. upw .me of 500.000 e, and because every borough in Scotland c Add supply itself in respect to libraries vet bout the ,meistance of that house. Mr. EWART said that hen gentlemen seamed to forest that the bill was strictly permissive, and had been framed on the principle of the Museum Act. Almost all the objections were committee objet ions. He would carefally con-ider th-m, and do all in his power to meet them in committee. Sir J OR MIMI asked the hon. gentleman rhether he declined to give • pledge to introduce the clause suggested by the hon. member for Rochester to the effect that be fore the town council could exercise the power given by the bill, there should be a requisition from at least a majority of the nee payers. (Hear, hear.) Mr. EWART said be had no objection whatever to intro due • the principle of the clause. (Oh, oh.) The town of Manetester, for butanes, contained 200,000 inhabitant', and he der not re bow they were to obtain the approval of two thirds in suit • place as that. But the principle of the clangs he had no übjection to. Mr. NUN 1Z observed that unless the hon. gentleman Nave • distinct pledge, he would leave all in uncertainty. (Hear, hear ) Bir O. GREY understood that his hon. friend (Mr. E wart) was wi.ling that there ghoul.' be some check on the part of the ratep yers, but deel red to pl. dee himself as to its pre cise character. He (Sir 0. Grey) thought there ought to b , some check, and es the understanding that there would, he cordially amented to the asemel reading of the bill. Hu' he thought it would be unfair to require more from him hon. friend than he had already promised. Mr. LAW said that the hon. gentleman had already told the bore that he had essaiderred the question before bringing in the fell, and sew good reasons for not introducing the clause recommended. It was, there( re. to be a bill for empower ing municipal town councils to tax without the consent of the ratepayers. Mr GREENALL supported the bill. Mr. NWART repeated that be would assent to the principle of allowing the majority of ratepayers to decide the question, and would have much pleasure In intro- tiered in • self elected and ineeiresthiebry. that was thud to be so great • grievant* by the atemmyersithat priaciple of representatke se • chellijele Bea hifee istrodurd by parliament (Helt) 4thent 'Th '11 , 2 1 : 01oa deilo , teed 41 the poor rate, what wt' Site prioeiple die tree Peer Ler Amendment Aor IV. 46 bet the ef gum! by a body of guardians onentsfit *end by Meer instituters to Auk that gnat bruiehlif expedffitun Therefore the multitude of the change did act alarm him. Well, but it was said in referees to this measure that the magistrates of England who entered this p met were the great proprietors, and had thegreatest interest in the expenditure , of the county rate, and that, therefore, it was perfeetly safe to allow them to regulate that expenditure, to which they them rives most largely contributed. without the cheek of popular repreratadoe. That seemed to him te M • very_ odd areenteat to us in the House of Cou WM (.Sr,H hear ) Why, se the very same ground they might error the taxation of the whole country to the Hour of Lied• without say interference from the nye* ✓otative. of the people. (Hear, beer.) The Hoses of Lords consisted generally of the large landed proprietors at the sunny. They, therefore, it might be said, bad as Wi ✓er Is keeping down taxatioe, yet was it found neeemery to have the check and control of this else ive assembly. (Cheer) The boa patleran (Mr. Peeks) said that there was • limit to this power oft taxation on the part of the ▪ He laid that the tax of runty rate was • matter Mao great coos queen, that it was °sly aid. in the pound. (Hear, hear.) Bat it was as. of *OW local burdens of width they had lately heard so meek. (L-ad cheer.) It was small now, hat h was very large • few nights ego. —(theers and laughter)—when you wished to transfer it me a local burden to the general taraatioa of the country. It was a sum, however, of 1,200,0004 (Hear, hear.) The hon, gentleman said that there were four heads of expendi ture, but these wen four important heeds of expos drat*, and if the magistrates decided on bend ing • bridge, which, although to them it might seem to be necessary, might hot appear to he se to the tenant, it would be bat little comfort to him to reed the account of the expeneliture of his mouey in the county newspaper. Immediately after the porno of the Rearm Bill an act of Parliament was introduced, to the effect that all public mosey st ould be voted in open court; sad the operation of this check was found to be most salutary in the county is which he had local experience. It was sew the prudes to appoint a financial committee, who per pared • report which was laid before the mouth; 'rambled in open court. That course had been very much commanded, but he wee net sure that it was not open to the objection of nano enacting the g od effect of voting money in open cout bonus • report so brought forward, ready out and dry, was ndoptel without any or with very little discussion, and was generally acquiesced in and adopted off-band. (Hear, heat) His opinion was that more check, founded on popular eke* tin, and consisting of rats payers, attic( with the magis trates, and on the magistrites, was now recenary, and ought to be established. (Cheers.) He should not hesitate foe one single foment to supp.rt the measure. Mr. AGLION SY said he came down prepared to rapport the principles of the bill, and the arguments of the right hon. gentleman, whose experience and judgment were enti tled to the greatest respoot—(bear, hear)—csofirened him in the view he tank of the subject. He crate' state that the right hon. gentleman was most arida ras in attending to the affairs of the county of Cumberland, and there wee no person there who did not feel indebted to him for his assistance. (Hear, bear.) There could be no doubt that a more effectual control over the count! rata was necessary than arty that existed at present. Therefore he did not thins that &committee was necessary, and he expected no other result from it then doubt, delay, and arsenate:non. Mr. SPOONER said that he was deciledly in favour of giving control to the rate payers, and the only question with him was how that principle could hest be carried into effect He would guise his honourable friend the momb:r for Droitwich to withdraw his amendment. He would a'so recommend his right hon. friend the member for Manchester to withdnw his bill, sod to all ,w the subject to go 'serene before • committee, not hypothetically whether • better system than the present one could he de visor, but to inquire wnich was the best mode of carrying the principle into effect. (Hoar.) Sir G. GREY said that when this measure was before the hour a few weak. race his noble friend expressed his iota. tion of crannies in the principle on wino!' it was founded. Toe wined. he of the bill, as he understood it, was to provide for the formation of county financial bonds based on the repreaentative principle. (Hear.) It was not. as had bent stated by the hon. gnu man, to provide for the transference of the duties and power now au reined by the ir responsible macistrates to • board of 10 or 12 elected gnat , than, for half the board was to consist of magistrates and half d elected guardians. He was ready to express his con, current' in the principle of the hill, but he saw rest diffi culty in carrying that principle into effect by this b.II. But it it was clearly understood that the principle was admitted t is right hon. friend was willing to send the bill before • ecm• mitre, in order that its details might be thoroughly sifted and investigated. He (Sir G. Ore)) would support the bill ; ad he hoped it weld Ibe tent before • 0011101ittt an-stain, where full evidence could be gone into en its merits. (Bear.) Sir R. PEEL said that he believed, from the in. tegri y of the magistrate*, and the deep and anxious attention paid by them to their maple:trial duties, that in the individual exercise of that pow, r no persons could be more carious than they were. Therefore he thooeht the defect lay in the constitution of the body w .ictt they were enabled. without any cheek, to exercise the power of tax. iog. He believ.d it was on yesterday he (Sir R. Peel) presented a petition (net a highly f, alumna' b.dy, who wen likely to exercise a diepusionate judgment on the merits of the present bill—he refervd to :he board of guar dians in his district, and with which be had the honour to be connected. That petition was unanimouely signed by the entire bleed, and it preyed that there might be a concur rent control with the magistrate 4 the ratepayers, secured by the representative system. (Hear, h-ar.) He (Sir R. Peel) had been further authorised to start that all the ma gistrates on the Mad ware unanimously of opinion, and MIS anxious to have the authority and support of the rate- Wbased on the representative system. (Hear ' beer.) v ir r, e be feared ti at if these opisions tenoned, an d if in quiry should he refused — which he (S.r R. Peel) would no. refuse, were he • magistrate—the magistracy would be plated is an invidious position, and the performance of their duties would become more lamer and difficult (Hear, bear.) He was of opinion that the fullest considera tion thould he given to the matter. H. (Sir It. Peel) being connect. I with the cowry of Lancaster, ebould stole in justice to the magistrates of that county that a most Arkin thaws sion was entertained in reference to them as regarded the increase and expenditure of rate.. Upon the whole, then, and with the full no currents, of his constituents, he (Sir R. Peel) was inclined to support the second reading of the bill in perineum t the amendment. (Hear, bear) He did not wish to be nedentood as denying that the bill was imper!ect; but he was desirous of emitting the principle that there ought to be a reccgnition cf the right of rate payers to representation ; and such seem: d to be the ex pressed opinion of several hon. gentlemen who pre erica him. (Hear, hear.) It was impossible to ask the house to inquire whether the more effectual metro! over the county rate could be r.oprad by admitting the right of rept rota tion to the ratepayers . It was impossible to ask that without admitting the pricciple. If they v end for the second reading of the bill, and admitted that the subject should be inquired into, they recognised the principle adverated by the motion of his hon. friend. Mr. R. PALMER believed the bill at present before the house was impracticable, and could no: be carried into effect ; but he could assure net hour that the magistrates of the county to which he belonged hat to &intim to the principle of control by representation. On the whole, he thought it useless to enter on a dis ussion of the bill. Mr. HINDLEY said that as far as the propesitiou went, that the ratepayer should have a certein control in the levying and expenditure of rates, he believed there was no difference of opinion. However, the house should Colltiddi that the present bill was similar to t' at of last year, with a few amendments. He believed the effect of the present would be to supersede the authority of the magistrates in nutters relating to rates of every kind, as sell as in visiting prison., lunatic asylu Ma, and workhouses. He he lie Ted it would have the effect of superseding them as ex officio guardians. Should his h n. Mead think fit to prise his motion to • divi ai-n, he would moat certainly support it. Sir G. S (RICHLAND felt certain then was • general 16, PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS FOR THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF LORDS. ORDBR3 OF THB DAY. SECOND RIIADINO.--CoUTiCt PrierHl Bali. CometTrEs 8iwa...4'13111. REPORT or Axsielpiswrs Alitadoiment rioiieii OF MOTIONS. FIINALTIIIII UNDIS, TRH PASIIINOIRN ACT SHIP SOHIULON.—The Earl of MOUNTCASIIIILL, to muve that there be laid before the house a return of all the penal ties imposed and levied on owners, masters, captains end othen, for breaches of the act 6th and 6 th of Vic toria, known by the name of the Passengers Act. eine. the said set came into force, specifying the amount of fine, the year when such penalty was imposed, the period when paid, bow such penalty wee disposed of, the name of the shin, the name of the offender, and the offence he committed; together with the name of the port where the party was convicted, and the officer who enforced it ; also, an address be presented to her Majesty for a copy of the minutes of proceedings atiectit g the ertaraeter sod con duct of the surgeon, superintendent, master, and officers of the emigrant ship Bobncn, referred to in despatches No. 116 and No. 242 from Governor C. A Fitzroy to Earl Grey last year. 'HUHN zzzzz TAILQU.—The Earl of WALDEOMAVE, to call the attention of her M.jesty's ministers t• the use of the journeymen tailors in the metropolis, as regards their contracts fur the supply of °bilking to the Custom-house, ordnance. polio., and navy. CLUPS Societies.—Lord DIONTEAGLE, to inquire whether it is the intention of the government to introduce any bill into parliament for the amendment of the laws respecting burial club' and societies. HOUSE OF COMMONS. INDEPENDENT NOTICES OF NOTIONS. NISITCAnTLR-ON•TTNR lIIPROVERINT, BILL.—MT. BROTHERTON, to move that this be treated as an op. posed bill, and that the petition of the Attorney-General spinet it he entertained. DIRDITaRRANRAN FLEET.—Mr. ANSTEY, to ask the Secretary for Foreign Affairs whether it is the intention of the government to withdr.w the squadron under the nom mend of Admiral Sir Wm. Park-r from the 1.-iviint before the evscuafien of toe Danubian provinces by Russian trope I hail taken Olson pursuant to the convention of Bolts Loam. STOCKPORT UNION.—Mr. T. EGERTON, to present a petition from the poor law guardians of Stockport Union, complainmg of great irregularity at the last election of guardians, and praying that the evidence takon relative thereto be printed; aid to ask whether there is any objection to the grsoting of that prayer, and if the President of the Poor-1..w Board intends to bring in a bill for the remedy of sorb abates in fumes. _ . ------. iloVitS or LABOUR TN FACTOTUM—Lord ASHLEY, bill to declare the intentions of the legislature in respect of the houn and mode of walking under the facmty %ICU. Pour or DUBLIN.—Mr. ANDERSON, accounts of all receipts and diehurnments by the corporation for p ing and improving the port of Dublin, Iran the .s:h day of January, 1833, up to the latest period to which the same haws bten made up ; distinguishing the same under different Isemds, and under what authority ; and, of all monies ,bor. rowed b, debentures or otherwise, under the authority of the act 26 Oeo. 111., e. 19, and of the act 32 Ga.,. 111., e. 3,5, or of any other act; the rate of interest at which the same was borrowed, what part of the same has bees paid off, and the annual 'marina of interest payahla on the sutristing debt or debts (in continuation cf Parliamentary Paper, No. 722, of session 1833). TITL6B Cr RRLIGIOCS CONORROATIONS (ESOLAND •Nio WALLB).—Mr. PEI 0, bill to render more simple and effee teal the titles by which congregations or sociattee, for pur poses of religious worsnip or educati n in England and Wales, held ; roperty required for such purposee, FAMILY Or Till LATE IR-RAJA.II OF SATTARA.—Mr. HUME, to move for returns u to the money pad for the maint. flans' of this homily. Fool), ate.—Galin WICK AND EITIII.EIIEM HOSPITAS. —Mr. HUME, return in CARIIRUI:Roll of pulionatniary paper 189, eersion 1536. EXPIRING LAWO —Mr. HAYTER, to nominate the cam .. mitt.* on this subj Pcnit.c INCOMIL AND EIPENDITURE.—Mr.BOUVERIE, returns reap ate fr. COURT or EXCILZITIRIL (DIRLAND).—Mr. HUME, cor respondence relative to the office of Crier of this court. FREE IN COURTS Op LAW ♦ND EQUITT.—Mr. ROC VERA E, to move for select committee on these feet. POSTAL COMMUNICATION COMMITTEE.—Mr. MACKIN NON, to move that Mr. R. Ilnlttt aid he discharged from attendance on this comnsitte; and Mr. HUME, to move that Mr. M. Gibson be substituted. DISTRICT COURTS AND SISSIONS.—MT HARDCASTLE, to meTe for returns on thee• subjects. ORDERS OF THE D.Y. SECOND 'EWAN Ga.—Highways ; Glatt Justices' S Aeries' Charitable Trusts; Lindlord and Truant ; Itsilway italic ; Bills. Coweirm.—Titles cf ItrlLeious Congregations (Se,t. land); Pirates (head monry) Repeal: P:nceu and Practice (Ireland); Brutes L aline (Ireland); Judi/mews (Ireland); lil•rriqrs Consolidated Fund (5,000.0001 ; Bills. NOTICES OF MOTION ON PRECEDING ORDERS. IN COMMITTEE ON VIZ THREE LAST NAMID IMI4II BILL& —Mr. SADLEIIL, Mr. REYNOLDS, S.r R. Fkat- OUSON, and the SOLICITOR-GENERAL, to move clauses and amendments, MARRIAGES BILL. —The SECRETARY-at-WAR, to more that the bill do not extend to Scotland; Mr. OSWALD, thid Scotland he omitted from its operation; Colonel CHATTERTON, that it do not extend to Ireland ; Mr. ROUNDELL PALMER, in committee, to move amendments. THE ROYAL LITERARY FUND.—Yesterday, e two o.o:ocd, the general annual meeting of the corporation of the R iyal Li.eitaey Fund, vote held at the chambers of the corporation, No. 73, Great Russell street, Bloomsbury—S.r R. R. Inglis, Bon., M.P., vice-president, in the chair. Torre were also present Sir R. P. Joddrell, Bart., Sir 11. Ellis, K. 11., Mr. B. B Cabbell, M.P., liter. Dr. Croly, Rev. Dr. Russell, Mr. Dilke, Dr. Beattie, Mr. R. Bell, Mr. Tooke, &e., t. Mr. Blewett, secretory, read the repurt of the auditors, which stated that the sum of 1,325 e. had been dis•rihuted during the past year amorg 41 applicants. m-keg a total of 37.8651. applied to the relief of distrese.e authors, their widows and orphans, since the institution of the society in 1788. The treasurer's report showed that the pernsauent fund reached 20.5001.,thet tho fund bequeathed by Mr. T. Newton amounted to 8,1671, and that the New ton estate, in Weitechapel, produced a rent of 2031. per atatuna. The report was unanimously received aod adopted, and the Marquis of Lansdowne was re-elected president. PURCHASE OF LAND BY THE NATIONAL FREEHOLD LAND flocirtg.—This society has concluded ha first pur chase, in East Sutrey. The estate is distant from London about nine miles, and consists of nearly 60 acres of very eligible building land, adjoining the Malden station on the South Western Railway. It is bounded on two aides by good roads, on a third side by the railwoy, and on the fourth by the estate of the Duke of Cambridge. The terms of the purchase are, we understand, very favourable to the society, and it is probable that a large proportion of the alistments will COOL the members less than 301., including all expenses. It is said that some of the lots will be set aside for those members who aro prepared to pay for them at once, and that the remainder will be offered to the subscrib ing members in order to be determined by lot ; and the system of drawing for priority has been so devised that every member will bare exactly his lair propped in of chances with reference to the length of time for which he has subscribed. The site is admirably adapted for the erection of small tills, worth to let from 301 to 401. per annum, and it is calculated that the cheapest lots will each be worth from 21. 10s. to U. a sear for budding on. Of course, nothing is known of the political tendencies of indi vidual or sabers of this society, but from the general bane ter of the men who are using this means to acquire the frauchise, it may be confidently assumed that this Malden estate will in a short time be the means of [Aldine several hundred votes to the large majority of reformers in East Berri Dust' LINEN.—The following pillage, written about the year 1775, is interesting at this time It Is of great importance to Ireland, that flax, the basis of this ma nufacture, is of home growth, and of the most excellent quality. From the very moment of the seed being put into the ground, to the time of its being inhibited in the market, in the form of a piece of white linen, everything is the native growth of the soil—everything the productive la t cue of the inhabitant." The exports of linen from Belfast in 1775 were 147,278 pieces ; one firm is now turning out more than that number of pies. a annually; and we pay to the foreigner for flax, fisirseed, and oil cake, upwards of six millions staling per annum. From the constabulary re turns of the breadth of fox sown in Ireland, in 1848, the total is given of 53,863 sues ; the cent'. quantity of ilex re quired few British manufacture weal occupy from 350,0.10 to 400,000 acres. DISCHARGE OP SHIPS CARGOES.—The collectors and comptr Ilers of the custom' department, at the Dermal ports and places throughout the United Kingdom, hare re. cietved directions from the comutimionen to transmit to the board, with all practicable dispatch, Vie following account, so far as the same relates to their respective ports, via., an account of the number of cues in which vessels have rot discharged their cargoes within the period required h 1 the 16th section of the Regulation Act of the Rth and 9 Lb N ict., esp. 116, during the last three v ears, stating the length of time by te.ich such prrioi has been exceeded in each in stance, and the amount charged to the psrtioi for the day pay of the officials, and distinguiebing the vessels which re mained in pert la consequence of the existence of any em bargo or blockade. gite erpregiO. OUTGOING MAILS. . _ _ The malls fey Lisboa, Spain, and Gibraltar will be made pp on the 17th inst. The West India Mills, excluding Bermuda, Eavannah, Nassau, H. dorm, New Orleans, and Mexico, and including sh•ae for Madeira, Bt. Juan-de-Ntearairua, New Granada, Chili. end Perumill be made up on the 17th inst. The midis for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian Islands, Egypt, Cagiest, India, and China, lea Southampton, will he teed' up on the morning of Much 20. The mails for British North Alkaliell and the United States will be made up on the evening of the 22nd inst. The mails yid Marseilles, to the Mediterranean, Egypt, Ovlon, India, Hong-Kong, die., will be made up on the evening of the 24th inst. The mails for Maoris, the Brasil', and Buenos Agree, will be aids up on the evening et April 4. BIOS WATIN AT LONDON SUMO& Two Day—Nacelac I. Slai *hens.. Di. ODA. To.•••••—Wert'. 7n. lAA Mamma. L. Stm. LONDON, THURSDAY, MARCH 14. THE time is now fast approaching when it must be decided one way or another what path Germany is to take for the maintenance of its nationality, for the development or the extinction of its freedom. Tome different views prevail, or have prevailed, on this important ',Woke. The popular and ultra liberal view, dominant in 1818, WJB to overrile the rights of princes by establishing ono constitu tion or code, one grand reprisentative as sembly, which was to legislate for Germany, whilst the chief that it should elect or appoint ' was to be the emperor and executive, throwing back the kings, even the greater ones, into the rank of vassals. In willing and decreeing this, the demo cracy of Germany overlooked the necessity of esta blishing and supporting it by some physical force, more permanent, organised, and manifest, than the mere clamour of the multitude. They raised no army, but affected to count on the armies of the very monarchies they proposed to destroy. Their con fidence was puerile, and the result what every man of sense must have expected. Opposed to this extreme was the old absolutist idea of 1815, to leave Germany a confederation of princes, represented by their envoys in a Diet, the majort - y , of votes and the lead in which were to be in the hands of the two, or rather of the one great German power. The German Diet, presided over by Austris, was in fact but a repetition of the cabinet council of Vienna, and thus a purely absolutist control was exercised over a league of states, called constitutional, but in which no one genuine element of a free constitution could be developed. The D.et forbade the several chambers to curtail the budget; it fixed the amount of the army contingent, and its expenses. It bridled the freedom of the press, eon tituted itself judge of all quarrels between sovereign and subject, and in fact, though allowing the forms, it too bade the reality, of constitutional government to any state in Germany. As a necessary cm sequence it reduced the smaller sovereigns to the nature of puppets, unable to ac quire the science and experience of government, the love of their subjects, or the respect of the world. Nothing has so contributed to render the events of 1848 fruitless in Germany, as the utter nullity of the princes, espeei illy of the smaller ones. The middle classes, amidst convulsion and wreck, had literally no power or principle to look to or invoke. In the Frankfort Assembly, es well as in the elan try, there arose a party, which conceived the hope of saving something from the reaction of 1849, and which meditated the establishment of German unity and freedom on principles arid institutions equally removed from abs lutism and autocracy, as from a sweeping and prince-annulling democracy. The first principle of this party was tnat whilst the rights of individual princes,together with local liberties, should be respected, there should at the same time be a Volkshaus,a popularly elected representative assembly, fur Germ any. To this principle Prussia adhered, and on this basis hurled a constitution, in which Hanover and Saxony concaved. We are far horn ap proving of all the acts of the Prussian government ; uor would we withdraw any one of the bitter cen sures which i . s conduct has provoked from us. But we cannot but see that the only hopes of developing German nationality, power, and freedom, all of them necessary to the peace of Eun pe, and the de fence of liberal principles, rest at pre,ent with Prussia, and with the triumph of the policy adopted by the court of Berlin. ...... Directly opposed to Pru.sia in these aims and poli cies stand Austria and ltu-sia •, both firmly united, breathing the same language, and pursuing the same sin-, in Greece u on the Danube, at Frankfurt as at Mir-ich, in the saloons of the Princess LIEVEN, as in the editorial office of 'he Times. The principle which the absolutist league insist on for Germany is, that there shall bs no rtilkshaus, no nation,l ar,d popular representations, but that the link between the state, erall crr.sist, as the old Diet did, of mere delegates from princes. We need not say that this is mu..l more flattering to minor kings and courts than the Prussian plat ; and that it has succeeded in not only k (Ting Bavaria and Wurtemburg in hostility to P. es,ia, but t ven has drawn Hanover and Saxony from ihe alliar.ce which, in the days of their distress, they had concluded. Were princes all in all, no doubt the reactionary in trigues of Austria would have succeeded. But in Saxony and Hanover, as in the rest of Germany, there exit representative chambers, as well as a popular feeling. And these, howevtr they might aject to tee Prussian plan, could not but pr. ter it t) a return under the old ab,olutiot and Austrian Diet. The day for the meet- ing of the parliament at Erfurt was at hand, and if it was to be delayed or opposed, it was absolutely ne weary to propose some plan of German unity and seeming liberalism, to compete and contrast with that of Prussia. 1%, concoct such a scheme was put Austrian inge nuity, but the minister of Bavarta,Von DER PFORDTEN, an able man, who had ratted from the ranks of the liberal constitational,re, undertook the task, acd lifter much negotiation with Prince SCIIWARTZEN NERO, he has produced a constitution for Germany, which is to outshine and supersede that of the King of Prussia and Von GAGERN. The scheme of it we pub,ishei yesterday, and it cer tainly is not wanting in the grandiose. It proposes no less than to unite in one empire the seventy million subjects of I'russia, of Austria and of the German pricces. The link of this vast confederation, com prising twen•ysix million of Selavonians, Crows, Hungarians, and Lombards, was, according to the Bavarian plan, to consist of what it ingeniously called a Voikskons, that is, a body of representa tives chosen by the provincial teat( s, which it was promised each province should possess. The Getman House of Commons was in fact to be like tic American Senate. chosen by the states, meet of which do not exist, and never can exit ; and which, if they did existunder the military rule of Austria, would be non entities. This assembly was to be composed one third of Austrian, me-third of Prussian, and the remaining third of the other German states. Above this melt House of Commons was to be established a Stuatehbans, of plenipotentiaries from the several courts, like the old Diet ; and above them b ith a Federal Executive, t 3 consist of seven members, Austria appointing one, Prussia another, Baverit a third, Wurtemberg (absorbing Baden) a fourth, Saxony (absorbing the central states)a fifth, Hanover and the North Western states a sixth, the two limit's a seventh. It was, in fact, a restoration of the old Diet, with the mere name, and the mere promise crver to be fulfilled, of a Volkshans. And Austria, obj b y o c d t e ° : i t:v p g e e r n a ti l w y o gaayvito‘iwniedtoth her r e e p o S u l t d r a pos a s t r e ls o n n il ' o i: f i t : isnotafunntdihieniaGn:eiismt insis t ing as form went, to the old machinery of 1615. The consequences of the adoption of such a plan and extent of confederation are petty obvious. First of all, it would absorb all Hungary and the Selavonian provinces of Austria, together with Lombardy, in the German empire. As the polit;oul and military ex penses were arranged, the first to be in common, the last to be divided into three parts, Austria bearing a third, a war in Italy for example, commenct d by the French, should be met by the army of the new em pire, an insurrection in Hungary the same. Austria would have her outlying provinces, guarenteei by G rmany, as the price of her joining Germany. Whilst by the constitution of the federal executive, the senate, and even the pretended ibfk•lawe, Austria, and, through her, Russia, would dominate over the whole of central Europe from the Baltic to the Appenines. It would • of NAPOLEON'S prophecy of Europe If from political considerations v dal ones, the formation of such an empire auspices would be of the worst possible results to us. We published at length some dais back the views and proposals of Austria with regard to the Zollverein and the tariff. To absorb the commer cial palmy not only of Prussia, but of the north. western mates, in the prohibitive policy of A u try and the south German states, am6uois to little lees than a renewal of NAPOLEON'S system of blockade. If the CZAR, in sddition to the adoption or N AN) . Luow's language in his diplomatic Ewes, could join to this the power of issutog Milan and Berlin decrees, our Austro-Itussian party here would soon put an ex tinituisher upon English trad.', at bast with the Continent The Germans, however, cannot fail to see through the insidious nature of these proposals. Although absolutism does put on a liberal ckak ; although it does idopt the name of a Volkalsoua ; although it pro. mists to adopt the grand-reeht, or fundamental prin ciple of the Frankfort constitution, in preference to the Prussian one; although Austria sielor the crush. bliehment of a great federal court ; and, although in the plenum of the federatim the solid* states are allowed a nominal and appirent inajurrty, reverthele-s, these concessions to democratic and liberal feeling are too manifestly rips given ti con ciliate, not to strengthen a liberal or Milo pendent party. Provincial states ! or freedom of pr.vincial states, Austria cannot g vet so that the whole bseis of national end popular representation, as tar as she is cot ctrned, is mere deception. And even siege she sincere, what is it she propane but to merge German nationality and German interests, in races, and tongues, and ideas, the mast foreign and inimical to them ? Our Vienna correspondent has written to ne from Muni( h a very full account of thii plan, and of trte negotiations and intrigues which have scco.npard e d its irth and growth. It 18 now . compb - te, a n d h as only been delayed by the shame an d reluctiace of say of the princes to propose such a scheme to Prussia. Hanover and Saxony durat not, for conaircncr sake, as well as respect to public opinion. 11.varl a and Wurtemberg will present it, it is now said, a..d will be supported by Auq-ia. But ' Hanover and Saxony, which approve of its being presented, yet hesitate as t o h ow f ar they can safely give in their adhesion to so n -0, man a plan, and thus join in the Austro-Russian crusade again.t Prussia. This power is, in the mean time, determined to open the German parliament at Erfurt. The struggle, our rea&ra .ec, is fierce, aril the moment critical. IT is an envious world. Every one thinks that his neighbour gets too much, which is natural, and :ricked inevitable in a country where nineteen -twentieths of the population are dependent oee upon the other, and consequently where the greater part of what goes into the pocket of one comes out of tl.e pocket of another. Tradesfolk and the it duw.rions iee the pence and the pounds abstracted :rout them by the legerdemain of taxation each hour in one thope o• another. Trey watch the course of this: ah , te.cid meneye, and trace some of them to toe pu,..c creditor, wl.ieh does not mortify thtm, hut t considerable portion more to su.diers tied , al,orF. . JOIL'S BULL faces soldiers aid Et, tht re not too many of them ? Mr. C01::)EN. himself the mouthpiece of this middlt-el,ss prrtst:s and develops it be!ore patliam.ot • c ,untry. But the upper classei t•lioto lit lr eyrn - • There are so many of thanu-elres in r.d coats blue coats, that they have to o bjection to •.c . . . . Lradraman i a pecce under cirnitOualy iLtu a - - tleman's pocket. But your ccuntry gentlemen, who thir.k much eatnot be spent upon ikneral ttlic,ts. that judge i get to) much. Confound thole .aw• 'race j.:stle the 'quirts in parliament and out. the bcbt berths, nay, in their mode f extract the very marrow from the Imes of fat interest, which was all eery well when the intrust had stamina and mat two, to spare. B 'hat it is attenu :tk d and in sorry to d ti.n, 11'N car i; gs and law standing, and law exper.die a gr u udged. nese are few estates in . the i .. . around which bring in mord than t:.rc-e tho.,rd year,refi cm Mr. DRUMMOND ;—why shou:: 3 get eight atd ten ? The remedy lies altogether with fro cowry zir tlemen themselves. If they envy the her, a it over-powerful and over-wealthy, they • means to bring it down. Let them amend rLnder it intelligible, give up their feudal trout. pee. dente, their barbarisms. Let the world whin property in land be:onr, how tr..ch owes, how it has descended, and how it inu4t d ; and it will not require such very lore. heids, std -ucn a world of fees, to make ow arld :Acute a titre. Carry reform so far into the law, th .t a min if r intellect with two or three year,' study can nals..cr its intrloscite, and you will not need to 6petil annual.y ne-sixth of your rentals in legil protection of the rest. With the exorbitant profi of bar will come down the enormous 'tittles of the judges, t..at is to say if it be mrtely judges that are wantisg. B.t if, out of lawyers it is required t ' carve not merely judges but peers—if a Ihancello: 's to eresi le over theetat lords of England, and if a (thief Justice must necessarily take his seat amongst t' em—why then of course you must pay not only the jedge hut the p. ir to keep up his dignity, and to save wherewithal to transmit his !He hmourably to a sin endowed wit: ladtp:ndence as well as rank. When we consider the earnings of the army, and the flirt:legs of the bar and bench, we mast take into acceuct that peers are made almost exclusively item these chiss.s ard that if the founder of the family, accordiuz to out hereditary institutions, has not the facilitits ing and leaving a fortune, the smite will be conlia'..d to suppirt his needy and titled pr-.gen e s s .ape or another. Mr. DataisteNti fargn E:i when he made his oeslaughtOn the j edge rt t. tred to America. So did Mr. COBDEN the ether ' If any one will here start u? and saT, see no nec.asitv for making peers of either I lots or Chief Justices, nor yet of militate - mat cannot amass considerable fortune a. we ark to become of the House of Lords? Families the out like these of other classes. If mea of mere wealth are not worthy of being promoted to the d:,:- nity of hereditary senators, lied if merit, whether military or judicial, be incapacitated by pwny, where is the ptersge to find recruits? We must own that Mr. DRUMMON D'S ;I*.ta, lawyers was the only portion of the debate :ha: Is intelliAble to us. Free trade was mi!:el up wi:h. and ik.tricultural distress. Malt and hops were thrown in according to the usual recipe, ard toltheo was added. But, altogether, they made a het..lTY , ',. that not even the most credulous gill!, swallow. Sir ROBERT PEEL m ade an e. episode of a speech on the Let‘ssi!y of no: arming all the c 'lonics to the teeth, or f rota int tt. southern counties according to the plan t Mr. Picot:. Mr. BRIGHT and Mr. Ikea: ter :ea the c 'entry pentlemen with being ready to f.,1.0u Mr. Malmo:int in a desultory and circuitous hare after economy, whilst they resolutely reused ts' follow Mr. CoittieN and the earnest reformers a resolute straight-a-head fox chase alter the game. The defence was lame. The motion was evidwoCy a sham. And yet, sham as it s;•• ministers were not a little pressed and perpli xeil!:‘‘A toe. c ipe being defeated, humiliated, and trodden dotes in this sham battle. tit thy re le THE RETIREMENT OF LORD DENMAN. The fallowing answer to au address pr. at the grand jury of the county of Line in ha' 114' 02 for — l : te a:o a r; h i; ;w o k: li , warded to the grand jury by Lord Demm': to gi ns7, li w ith m en ; gentleman, a scholar, scd a friend ; hat the unt—not 9 kinshr of 'hat unexpected addrets plae...S me in no -tut; difficulty. Ni words can axprrss nor tease +•f it, V hat . doubt whether it is more honourable to yourselves nt .• " wri t tt r ei n iT i t t h t. r a tr ' a. u. :•! 'itr.:.l to yourselves., as embodying tho'e noble sentiments whit, naturally e d iting up in generous minds at the printul r: a toolv jutireial came ;to me, as al, s t ituotty houov . wi:o which that career hr been run. I trot I.on wrong its b. Iteving that you give me toll mai'. tett r 1.7 my of fi ce on every oocssion, arso.:rdi gto the Ir. , undemanding', in conformity w ith truth ir.d. are Satisli •.1 that nu personal feeling what..r.r e u . div. Med ma trout the path attar". T., the loot hour of my life it will ta anima nty .elstious that 23 of the most distiaguisbird . we— great count o f Lincoln, who have known me Fe c Moult ham, s sot me such • deournent, •,..1 I ult. , . t' e effects the lit ial of • cordial gond wasterstantlitm ItAtatcrt l be tho fulfilment kl Europe from tno ii•lai "lac... v. eb ~.• ••• , I becoming CAS :Ck. prople and dn r ju iges of the lantivr — inl he per rtu.l. and s‘kcere thanks, and &runt wish. s 'or the ir, orcrill). re pals to anum. bone h u lptis ho esa of yourselves and your eoun'y, I "" a ' your aratedul humble stream, empire under such London, March 13 . PENMAN. I