The Express. — London, England, 1855-06-09 00:00:00

IF IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE of LORDB.--Fanna, Joss B. Tke Lou) CaAscraixos wok kisses* up= the miasma at Ivo e'5.4.4.k. PETITION. lard STAN .of ALDIO&2I, preesstod a prides spirt tilts Orono tt .t. Abolisuo Lent Ilsoxoss preested s winos is faro: of the total dada* pooh. brows es Sudsy& INTERMENTS POE TBZ METROPOLIS. Tiee lik•nv of LONDOII erilkdrow b.o motion ea tko oboes solkfrot, as soistaaso her Berl Gartvu.t.s that re o..erreest word sertsselp wastra tbe beet ask of reforsiog tlop Orr implored of. Their Lorlahre reee at a %same past 7 leamis. LT, Jim 8. MOUSE OF CO: The bone met at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. Tbo &Wooing bills ware read a third dme sad psesed Abram, B Brans, sad Carswell road; Bombay. Baas. and C •stral lath Railway ; Carlisle sad 'Moth Bay Railway sad Dak ; Genii Surrey Canal (Ne. 2) ; Mango hue Railway ; Btoektos sad Ballarat° Railway ; By and 14e of Wight Railway, Pier, and Telebraph ; erdgaym.ath Water, Bells. THE PRESS AT GIBRALTAR. Mr. OLIVEIRA salvia the Secretary of Scats for the Colman enema his attendee bed has direeted to the wilissaes need by cedar of the Gaveraor of Oh/falter, sodded .1 Aa orJissaas to prohibit salkessed priatisg within the city, garrison, sad territory of Gibraltar," dated the }Bth day el May last cad samba the !aid ordi nate with the seadulaa of bar Majesty s govern. mat ? Lord J. RUSSELL bad saly "titbit' the last two days re ceived .he ordain* , to whisk the hen. member referred, bassi bent hens alder his a 4ies by Lord Putman. It It wanes aseeseary that the peewees should have the sailis of the home revenant before pahlleatise, boa be (Lard J:Bassell) believed t at he pablseades bed bees smith rale, inasmuch as it should ban bell anted fir • before it ease into operation. 1 send way say that the matter Wald has his aeteeiitw slim Mr. BRIGHT visited to kaew whether the gainer Mil Waal( lorwaded the erdiaanea to the Colnaialthibetail also the memorial pretested to him by the B mitts, of Gthealt t He asked that bseal a s ik retlisead that the *ems tiles en gamier had kept die paean busk sad patented th e Colosialsoffes true beoXWE %Bs bow plants or the ealosists. He also wished to know if the Roble lurd could say whether tbs elleeeheee of Sir Robert Gardner had base appointed. The Duke at Newcastle had bald a 4optvation that the term of Sir Rabat's office was about to sawn, and intheequesdy Lied Palimentos had said that he was maned, or about to be readied He washed for some farther thioresaties from the noble lord ea that leaden. Lord J. RUSSELL was sot sure whether the memorial bad beta ' , loaned by the 'Gaynor, bat thought not. The Duke of Neatest* whoa the governor's tern adios was about to empire, arranged that he should remain sail eyries; bit within the last few days, Lord Pawners had been makiag arrangements, and when a perm lad bees lied cm tar this important otos the same would be sub milted to her Mal.sty ; and wh en her Majesty's pleasure was harm the rash would be esomassicated to the beam . • THE EDUCATION BILL. Is thaw to Sir J. PALIXOTON, Lord J. RUSSELL said that if the Speaker shed& he M nab rpouvween se to he able to take the Asir, the Mine as satiosal e lee .01.nt er..1114 be resumed es Monday men. Mt COBDEN AND SI t W. MOLESWORTH. Oa the ernoie that the homes on its ring adjourn lbeaday sea, Sir W MOLESWORTH said—l ask amides ef the base td take this, the Int, opportunity wilds I lave buss I alio to lad, to make a statement in seatradiellea of nada mdeasidall prrsoaal charge which have hem br. I spirt me by the boo geatlemes the mental Ors the Wad Rides; chuges which he dated sse to asedmaiillo eta whisk were repealed last night by the has. member for Mauchestar. The hos. 'endemism hmealetalleitEe of ezoreseisg. opinions utterly at earthen wide MEI p► vioss declarations of opinion," and he stleileated wip al. laded thioneistency to dieweditable motives. la suplesetelf his secueatios, be refit , red to two swain of Las; seea. livered is this house is the year 1850 ._pellet die Paella question—the other delivered at a publia Me* fog at Leeds, in the year 1840, swegedial the Syrian guestioo. I ban read over both of them imam. The first, if livered fa the Pinta debate, is namied in '• Batumi." As any boa. gsatlemas eu look at it than I 'nutria 'Oak( with flatly dealing that it Mania arep matiseras which are laminates& with these which Imp pleased the other night in debate. With regard Is the speech respecting the Syriac wain. it was delitheal st Leeds Steen years ago. Oa referring to it I found that Se far from Its being, as the boa. podiums said, utterly at variance with my pretest opinion, it was in DOM MaiIIMIN most remarkably in accordance with my prams* slam For its that speech I alluded to sad foreshadows& the possible necessity of a war similar to that in which we are sow engeged—samely, a war is which France and Eng land should be allied to protect Turkey spawn Ressis. The hos. gent/eosin wilted the other night that I etiold be forced to 1 , 44 that speech at the table of the house. With the permission of the hoses I will read a short saran from it. I said, waking of the abeam with Ramie sad the alienation of Francs, predated by our induct in the Syrian question, which I was afraid would praises a war with France, the evils of which I dismissed, We ban formed as alliance with Russia, whose interests are baths to our own in the Best. We lave lost the alliance of Fran, the only European power which has an lamas equally strong, sod a desire equally urgent with ourselves, to prevent the occupation of Concealments by Russia. Who does not perceive that every wound inflicted on Francs by England. or on Ragland by Fames, must be a nurse of rejoicing to the northern barbarlaa--se obstacle removed (rem his path to Orastaatisople." Speaking of the craft and duplicity of g o a t * I. codes. vowing to embroil us with France, I said, " As the for, is the fable, whew the lions bad disabled one asetber, seised the prey for which they were anteridiag. so Rena, more wl.y than the for, urges us (France and Ragland) as to nasal destruction, to the hope that when our foram are exhausted she may entry off tho prey we would save from her grasp." (Hear, beer) la another passage I said: "The gaieties may be asked of me, an the affairs of Turkey duo importance le Reglad ? Is Russia to be permitted timiedy Is occupy Cdostantinople ? I answer by so mesas. I •11111111 that the policy of England is to abstain from interim/WM the lateral affairs of other eating, and to insist that a Mahar tio!iey of nen iaterbrence shall be adopted by the ether powers of Europe." (Hear, hoar.) Is another roma I saio, " Let se my to Russia, we will set permit yea to make an attempt to amuse to yourself the sovereignty of the Turkish empire. If you romans to laterfers is affairs chicle are sot your own, and mesas Coastasitinople. Freer*, united with Raglaad, will compel you to desist." Mr. COLLIER said that as ritelaaatteee were the order ads, day, be might be permitted to allude to a sharp whisk had been men against himself by the right has. member for Wilts. That patlemea said that be (114. Collier) bad naiad him sad kis colisegues of seadmili misesatieg to hewn. Re bad sear said saytkisg of the kind ; en the soutrary, be gave the late Waste, credit Me being Wasted by the nest esamisatiose eselins, bas add that, Judea" from anti, it seemed se Mb ON these goodesaira had endeavoured to aster laic eakralidinag e as to the amount of mossy and samba a mos that woad he aminney to carry as blinded operstiese, and had sesidad 'wadies that amount, lam they should 'Kate a warlike feeling is the soustry, sad humiliate Russia, add. fag his hello that that nada% was the raison why the war bad Ostia conducted with such ill masa. THE WAR.—ADJOURNED DEBATE. Mr. F SCOTT re-opesed the shammies with some whi niness the several mandated before the hewn sad the washes of the late Censellor of the Bastioquer sad the boa. seemlier f Kidderminster. He naiades% the hams that the genii ass beton them, divested of all neystiSsatiom, was the iadact of the war and of the negotiation for pass It had hese eresed. sad with mach truth, that ths tam palmy of the government lad treaded as umiak as say. thin. .1. I" p ro duce the war ; bet that vasillatiagpolisy had ben passed at a time wars the &obi le d who wee sow the chat miolgor of the Crows held one of the mast important dices is the cubism; wmaraiently that sable had was quite as Impossible for the results of that vsedla des as thew right hoe gootlemee who bad weeded from the ireeeteul•at. After ripsetit g his &sum° for diviner dealaredeas from the gamiest of their *aims, mot as Maid bat as a nailed aibiset, eta ins was, sad IL. inns apes ert ice they were prepared to make pen*, he .secluded by statiag dist he nail sot support Mr. Lowe's =sadism*. Bw F Batoro, the ATTOtarlY Ciassitith, Mr. MOM man, sad M . L. DATUM, Seeded for unassmity to a v‘pro. toss arieweetteo of the au. Sir F. 1 Miele= and Mr. WalwaLa etswir-d the asthma of the getereetrat in the natter of the owsotietiosa, sad insisted spore the duty ei seglectieg no opp meaty for smariagaa boassish's peas% Mr. CaRDWI‘LL animadverted wpm the Breath of Me Attars*, hear. o f„ swerving that it waald hue I* Ebroba apes the vrisge the telegraph to-seerrow, dal the pi. maawat, spaiiiig act by themselves, but by Ibillebmwsk had tow varliameat that their away 11111 go biter kw a power, that with her sway aimed met Safely aripetit. (che e r.from boot sides of the hosse)— that one of th e is . Reete whisk this hart was oar oescpsealisr 'amnia 12•4 4 ear, main ly 4 . ; Oe otwoorry ' oosidod taro, warlike 16•Itoi kit LW btliet 1 LE beta woad THE Mr. F SCC i 1 1 . awns on tb• • olossobos of i 1 , bow. osowtter litot lbo qaew woo tbo • oscit le bad bars .1 ties pother of this/ elr v , i i boil b es pan sow tb• tenet bllpletant fili bee was gum I ( i tiow as thou I I the goo/inn. doelorsolas• f i t ' iadowl .solt„ e 1 1 11 $1 1\ berms urea a twaelatt.4 by @madam's. litr IF BAB KAM. sad !I Top prowaat WALPOLI et natter to tto Vties nn CARE Attora•l WI spas thr tom \ voimartst, sp had wit IN 'MS • p. 1 saltily der., that one of ti boon was ow 1 i THE EXPREt3S, SATURDAY EVENING, JUNE 9, 1855. egmesi. hellikations moo seised whisk were visited by rite of lamp that wen parties to the treaty. Why keno Owl* he applied to Turkey so was ematries of the Rhine ? There wee no met▪ h," Mem wlty we should not fortify the Emotion's sok* the waseart espervkka el European comeners kifier thedillealty of dating with such %mottoes at Mat hone of the eneraisg, but the debate is which they wise Mgt: was Of the most important Sts' ewes,would be the an of ta'kleg about the of the government end the Mindy of their sehentem he placed before the country those mate. rids kit thought which be attempted so briefly to sketch— iest's" be Mowed What were the means, the prinked means—mesas not humiliating or offensive to /WWII, bat wens whist might place Turkey is • position whisk for a big period of time might SWUM the pease of Europe, and enable her to take her peeper place among European wakes ? (Rear, hear.) If these were ealy oh own ideas he should feel tome hesitation in tetrad's' them upon the attention of the home. but they were motioned by the greatest statesmen, and therefore he thought it his duty to state them. There was another very important point which the beam eaght set to allow to imam its Meatiest, namely, the eastern coast of the Black Ike. At the pre• sent moment every ten of the Black Sea below Anapa,with the caption of two in the pommies of the Turks, were destroyed. If England allowed pesos to be restored, it would have • nicht to stipulate with Russia that those forts should sot be spin erected. (Cheers.) That was • stipulation which this country should take care to elect, for it would not humiliate the feeling nor injure the bottom of any power, however great, but it would be a stipulation which, by renderitte im perfect the military communication of Russia in that gamut, would more than any other condi. tios tend to masolidate the power of Turkey, sad secure what ought t• be the reel object of the war—the posses. aim of Constantinople by the Ottoman power. He would sot farther pursue that theme, fur many other opportunities would present themselves for discussing it. It was of the greatest cassequenos that when the crude schemes of the government were planed before the home, when the g meat told them that pea. e could not be obtained aceordieg to their owa primipke, it was the duty of the opposition nut intrely to challenge such • policy, bat to direct the public Dried to the emelderatiod of the means, the practical, wand, and Solid memo! by which the great problem of modern polities could alone be solved. (Hear, hem.) fame were other MOM very tempting, to which hr would sot allude. The Opt has. baroast the member for Carlisle (Sir J. Grebes) bad told them that any new class of statesmen that might arise should occupy their minds in consideriug what should be done when the Turkish empire should be dissolved. He (ffir. Disraeli) could not agree with the right hon. baronet on that point. He thought that Turkey, wh most unfairly treated—mid sever more unfairly than during the last two years—had the Power of moistening her position, sad if the government, intended carrying on the war for the professed object of securing her iedependeacer, they must do it upon different prisciples from those which hitherto appeared to have infieemed them. The house could only judge of their policy, of their moue" sad of their ability to deal with the great difficulties whisk presented themselves, from the morns which had bona pissed ape the table—records more barren, records that trammed upon him a more melancholy couviction of the ineeespeimmy of our modern statesmen than it had ever been his stidertacos to see. Toe noble lord might rest assured that it wee sot the language of party that he was uttering. The intektible course of European politic' would bona all the majeetures which mere politicians could mike, and no oplaions upon these great subjects that could be uttered would stand the test of time, and certainly no other would prevail than them formed from deep study, serious meditation, and an serious desire to attain to truth. (Cheers.) He ooald equally assure the noble lord that though for tae moment be might defy the words of those who eat opposite to him, though be might be proud of a majority, God knew bow made, sea roam for God knew what—he was pursuing a course with. out sufficient knowledge, without ideas sufficiently clear, without a 'moieties sufficiently &m. If there was that wavering is the motheils of the ministry which was the n tural consepenos of ignorance of the subject with which they had to deal—if at the present moment, when they met to deliberate, they had not • definite idea of the object for whisk they wen struggling, and the means by which they proposed to accomplish the purpose which they had speed on in that house was that they wished to achieve. suede, the preservation of Constentimpie to the Ottoman Porte, the noble lord might rest ensured that the utmost contusion and coaster• tuition would fall ens the cabinet of which he was a member, sad that no parliamentary power Gould sonata a ministry dallying with great trensectioas tar which they were act competent. If the pvernment were conducting our foreign affairs as they had been for some time past mediating oar home trauseetions—he spoke not only of the erotism ministry, uninfluenced by any principle, having so metered principle, as determined purpose, no inexhaustible resources to support them—the future of this country would be a future of plant too terrible for any imagination to contemplate. (Cheers ) Lord P. Utensil he should not be disposed to dwell up= that. Bet it was of vital importance that the hems should ai d m s, the nature of this pest us aides, =deb got kin gnat= was, se fat m he would gather from the statements of the governameat, the seem of the war being continued. He thought there Moe vary geed, reerope• why the war should be =s ting= ; histoloseeding is Ike mm stale by goversionsat, war woe skalds sdaimest dogleg, sad to be mg= nide& =sly, Mum* the Hessian government would am agree to pen monitioa, =AM, totally ftrespeetive of its =policy, . was utterly laeffiebet. Now, *oppose lassie bad a certain men. and la; tee power of thruster bee teems. as she did in 111118, epos the Tudrah wen at Simeon std .Bourgas ? Why what would have happened in 1828 if them had bun a minister at tee head of affairs who reinipetheaded what woo at stake ? If any Beet of the Western pewees had cr . :l a the Bosphuras le 1828, the matemieeneas of the troops by sea would have base est off, sad all the Beiselan army at Steepen sad Bear ers* must have capitulated. (Hear, hear.) The ousenand of the ma was certainly as =manage ; bat it wee not no esesagy to have the oommaad of the sea M may es war with melees. If the lend tionamenicatione bolded ea army wage bee when it was fighting by land it would have the isms eiventage. Frame enquired the weeM whoa we bad' sbe alimenled of the sea Ho thought, thuds, , that the undid= which the noble bad made the mainstay et ' ilieisawe at Vienna was utterly inefficient. (Cheers) Tin thiggledoe that it was moat impolitebecause senses mkt be mem =elm than to insult the enemy, with whom ilee wished to mew into • peace, and to humiliate • power =deb we resupleal man Important and necessary element of the Europe system. The right hon. member for Carlisle had viodimboll the noble lord (Russell) from some remarks mid* be (Kr. Disraeli) made the other eight upon amp= of kis swiss* at Veen'. Tba rig t hoe. bares= amid OM the noble lied Wes justified is coviderift w Mem at Russia. Why, if mane, it was the first ~ph% oft 0 .1 1 of dipiemesy, bet of common sense, in an the bud. use of life, thee, making say asrangement, we had Madiossly to avoid laminates dues with whom we had se duel, and to make it a coasideration that their honour *Meld sea be injured. He did ass bleats the noble lord for =keg tee • primary element fa his negociations, but should sun blamed the noble Med if be hate not done so. What to did blame the noble Med for wee, making the great and annum eary admission Mat he would consider the homer of Russia is his armageshents and thereby giving an stems to Ruda to avoid etimnisecing negotiations herself, and always to answer say proposition which he made by ellepieg that the honour of Russia was con egraed, of which Rave would be the judge. But he would now rerun to the important point, which was, ac cording to the itovernmeet, the cause of the European war sow raging. He said, that the condition of the sable lord was utterly inefficient. He said that it was wet Impolitic, most butailistiog, sad necess rily humiliating to Russia. The noble lord referred epos that occasion to a precedent whisk bad already been noticed in debate; and he (Kr. Disraeli) would only notice it now, because it was of the utmost importance that the should have more clear ideas upon this subject then unfortunately, from the suppression of discuselon epos it until lusty, the house did at present entertain. The noble lord bar wished to regulate the whole coeds* of dm neguiations by the treaty of Utrecht. The proposi tion for the limitation proceeded from the noble lord. Lord J. RUSSELL—In pommies of instructions from the mastgovern Mr. DISRMILI—From a government of which the noble lord was a member. Towards the sad of last seesioa, when he ventured to make some remelt on the noble lord's fatal speech about the dismantling of Sebes copal, the noble lord asked him in a reproaehful thee if be did not remember the ease of Das kirk ; that it appeared that even in July, long before he had any idea of being a Plenipotentiary, the noble lord was full of the instance of Dunkirk, which was to be hi 4 precedent for the dismantle/ of Sebastopol. (Hear, hear.) The dismantling was not heisted on because this *three of the war disappointed the sanguine 'spectates. of the noble lord, but the proposition took the shape of the limitation of the Russian fleet. The proposition for the sentrelising the Black Sea proceeded from K. Munn de Lions, bet the Dunkirk proposition was entirely that of the aphis lord. Did the noble lord forget the very consider able difference betimes that cue and tie present ? Br the lird 'indite( the treaty of Utrecht the harbour of Dodd= was to be filled up and its fortificitions destroyed, but. it was also awls • *edition that the King of Fresco should have se equivalent; that equivalent was no slight one ; be demanded the two great fortresses of Lille sad Tourahm, sad Lille was yielded to him. Though the king was pros trate is fortune, and the rumor= of the Italian exhausted, be sever submitted to such terms as the noble lord offered to Russia, for in this came there was no suggestioe of an equivaleut He would also wish to call the attention of the Bobo lord and of the hoses to the fart whether that con elision was a suomeshil sae. He would quote the language of a political opponent to show how inefficient the cendilion CI, and how it was evaded. He would only reed four P .r d .—" In order to evade the stipulations of the Wiry with England, which compelled Louis to fill up the =deur of Denkirk, he commenced a canal at Idiredm and pro. seeded with the work in spite of all rentatistreaces " Within a leggin of Daokirk he commenced to create his other Sebastopol, in spite of sll the remonstrances of the allies. The authority frem which he had quoted was the v History of England since the Treaty of Utrecht," by Lod Jobs Russell. (Hear, ben.) The noble lord, She. • diatingaisbed statesman, and unfortunately au unsemeesful negotiator, was also • man of lettere, and would, be wee sure, excuse him for quoting his ow- words. That ter psim aiallksa lel which the noble lord offered to Prince e ,in vitalisation of his proposition ; be referred lints Ms instance of Louis XIV. se an authority for the =to limit the Hussite fleet. But what was the France and Louis when he sigma that treaty ? at Tie Immo of Utrecht was only wrung from Louis when *samba was utterly exhausted by the expiates of a =M em war—when his recruits were undue= to the hastier in chains, like malefactors—when Luis had to dread the presence of an enemy in his very capital, or be reduced to the cruel alternative of dethroning his grandson by his own arms." That was the noble lord's deocripties of the state of France when Louis consented to dismantle Dunkirk. The illustration of the noble lord had two groat merits; in the first place, it humiliated Russia by icepliedly stating that the sovereign of Russia was in the forlorn and miserable condition which the noble lord had described is such picturesque language ; and it had • mooed merit, that the noble lord proposed to Rasta, as • condition of peace, one that they might learn from his own history could be instaatly and see austelly evaded. He next came to consider the question of preponderance, it would be well for the home to refloat on this point. The noble lord and his colleagues appeared inclined to consider this question of preponderance as if it was something new in polities, something recently intro deo= in political experience, the solution of which could hardly be counted on from want of experience in matters of this bed. After all, what wog this preponderenel of a great power over a week state, to which it was contiguous, and in the independence of which week state the other powers of Europe were interested. The history of modern Europe was eM history of attempts to check and control the prepoadereace of the great power.. They had heard that evening an alarmist!, harangue from one of the law officers on the designs of Russia. His description would mike any man tremble, but he (Mr. Disraeli) did not suppose that Russia had say otherdesigns than those common to the other great pewee. Had warren*" had designs on the Low Countries? That was a qatistioa of the preponderance of • great empire over e mail country, in the neutrality and =nevoid's., of which Europe was interested. Were net the deeps of France es well matured and as rigorously serried ea se those of Rank ? They were carried on by iadivideals ef great genius, of groat ability, and great energy. Ciodiaal Richelieu first cocatimd the design of absorbing the Netherlands. Louis the Fourteenth invaded aad the great Napoleon cooqverid them. The Nethuleada were still independent, and the preponderance which France bad exercised fir a mature and • half over the country, which was one of the battle fields of Europe, had been boffied. There never was a period when Belgium was more tamely atteched to the political system than at present. (Hest) That shows that there were mesas by which the prepoaderanco of • great power can be belle, and it is by those meths that the preponderant), of Raisins should be soutseted. Did the project of the government afraid that mesas? What was the present pcdtion of Belgium? How had the Mega. of France been carried on few near two outer= by man as emerge= in temper and as fertile is rummies es any of the sovereigns of RUMS ? How had OM ii dependenes sad Integrity of Belgium bees preened ? She was new a neutral state, and the united will of Europe had getable= sad preserved that neutrality. He did am find that the adds lord or his collugues bed at any time suggested that the neutrality of the Principalities shoule be established. Let them take the case of Switserland—that was seethe, et the baulodelds threatened by the prepon derance of the greet powers of Franco and Awns The congress of Valikal established the nifstrality of Switurlead, as the conferences of London ratio dished the asistraliti of Belgium. He complained that in the negotiant= thus was me evidence of any remorse being bad to three 'methods mesas by which stateemes of great ability and unquestionable re pined= had attempted to solve difficulties similar to the with which the noble lord and his eolkagues had codes]. He wee sawillieg to weary the house after such G protracted de bate, hut it was important that their &Vendee should be eallsd to this poist. He did not ask them to pass &vote in tamer Math neutrality of the Principalities, but only_ to ea Wrists the gaieties. What would be the effect in Turkey it the Principalities were declared wend ? The frontier of Turkey on the Duette, which was her most exposed poet. floe, would be reduced immensely. Any one looker; to the map would see it would be reduced to the short &static.. between Real, where the Danube leaves the Principalities, sad the Ma. Suppose Russia invaded Turkey ender three eireemetanose they would first have to pass • bread end rapid river, sad then eater the fell sad pestiferous steppe. of the Dobrudseha, and with the fortresses of Scheele sail Varna on the right, and the great fortress of &list= hi the rear, Balla& Could ran upset to overcome mush •b• stades. He wished that in considering the mode of Maid= the Remiss preposideranes over Turkey, they meld, is stead of adoptieg the made scheme of the government, curs ads attest= to the miaow is vides the gror statesmen who had preceded them bad me• thew dillealtios, sad found Masai of solution If they mould sot have satural barriers, the nolik lord wield act s rimy that • utile= harriers saeht be erected. The noble lord knew that at the treaty • View sad at the treaty of Paris we Guttered tete ssipslatisas by virtu of whisk ertifisial barriers were -The right hoo l gestletsaa has ad._ anted to the auto', which he made before the late brief recess, and stated, in the first place, that it was far from being his intention to imply that if carried he wished the government to abandon their petition ; and be mentioned • similar cue of Lord Londonderry, in which that noble man did not resign. If we are to judge of the accuracy of the right hon. gentleman's information on these great sub jects tip the sornetneas of his memory on the point I have mistimed. lam not much disposed to adopt his cowls aims, for if the right hon. gentleman will refresh his memory by reference to the records of the trans actions to which be has alluded, he will find that the house upon that question came to ao division, sad Lord Londonderry retained office cut of defames to the feeling of the country. But I must own that the observations of the right boa. gentleman, and the Middens which has fallen from him, contrast somewhat strangely with the language he held before the late remiss (Hear.) What was the grenades which he proposed the pin _lntim on which the house came to a decision ? He said, " I call sum the house to interpoes,bseanse I am convinced that if the government is allowed to go to this proposed ten days' ream without check, they will during that time con clude a disgraceful and ignominious peace." (Hear.) With the papers before him he made that charge upon ,the government. What has he told us tonight ? Hs has told us that the government has insisted upon terms too hard to be imposed upon Read& (Hear, hear.) The whole of his speech has amounted to this, that we were demanding some limitstion of her fleet which in honour she could not agree to. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the amendments which we are called upon to disease, I confess that, though the right hon. gentlemen has repudiated my agreement with him, and seems to be uneasy when we happened to concur in opinion, I, though perhaps not for exactly the same reasons, einem with him in the resolution to which be has come. I stated Dome time ago that I had no objection to It on the first blush of the thing, bat that I bad a great objection to the last part of the amendment, and for the reasons which the right hen. gentleman Jamul( has gives. lie says he has reconsidered his reasons, and thought now, apes a fall consideration, that there wee no imagism of the prerogative of the Crown in 'tussahs, an opinion ao to the terms on which pease was made or war was continued. I will not put it upon that abstract prin ciple, bat I my that it is highly inexpedient for this house to take into its bands negotiations with foreign powers, to .taw on the use hand what are to be the terms of peace, or, on the other, what proposals ought to be rejected. Any expression of foiling on the part of this hones cannot fall to be embarrassing to those wise are cionduting the negotiations, sad injurious to the intereits of the country. If that remark is appli cable to • war in which we are singly engaged, it is infi nitely mon dangerous when we are engaged is comer% with alike with whom, step by step, and at every step, we mast consult apes terms to be accepted or refused—(chiers) —with woe, we mast agree la every step taken in the Ingo sluice. It is evident, therefore, that for this bum to lay down an opinion as to the adoption or rejection of terms of pease and war is mash to be deprecated, is highly Injurious and embarrassing. If the right boa. gentleman does not take offence at my agreeing with him—(laughter)—l think there is semuch face in the argument that the two amendments are so linked together, that any objection that applies to the last applies quail, to the first. (Hear, hear.) 8o far, therefore, from not moceptiag that cautious bridge which the right h n. gentleman says has bees constructed by my right hon friend, so far from expressing an opinion averse to his &mesdames, I sat prepared to vote for It, and the beet Wag I think the house could do is to take that ameadmiat with part of the amendment of the hon. gentle men sad snow that to be the distinet question before it. (Hear, beer.) I hope the hon. and learned member will .now his anseadment to be cleared away—(l.-nghter)—so that the home may lose to a vote on the amendment of my right bon. friend. With regard to the souse of the debate, nee eirmunstamm impended itself very mach on my Naiad. we Mw hest debating thii most impor tant natters, iantivieg Satinets of the deepest ma ture, sad the debate has is Enteral bent coadiseted with salinseee sad temper, led that deep oeusideratioa so the gravity of the subject. The only eleep tioe to that rain has been evinced by the adveriates of pi see (" Heat, hear, " sad laighter.) Those gentlemen bed pesos ia their boasts, but they had war is their .oaths. (Cheers.) They showed so wash hest, sad penien, mad etoleare—their speeches were delivered fa • maser hat showed how "ogre passions were atruggliag fer easetery width' thea—(olieers)--aad to judge from tines ..peeehes, the meaner, the subsume, sad the lawman of ram, say Gas would say they were .soh fitter to be • "arty for war at all bawds thee • party for pease it icy pries. (Cheers.) Bat their ergannets were not sui• as are likely to have .ash !slaws ia the debate. They have bees eittaplinetted for their ...nee la steadien forward ea tbeettaaspioas of their par ticular opiates'. Bet I eves doubt if they deemed that sanglimenet, for the danger of their opinions has coatiodia that this conaiti" wal °D° mac cei,:iignuntryesti:oaennioninyeearenwashaioitc: roved nos bees b ownwin g by on eyenebee m which they w i l u ans the d. anldt eenm .Furent o ei t i the beeisti tr eiz e i a nie t tt y hw , od w assan h ut e ahs u rt,te:lil e e.y a am eu a .7 eactr,d.:usolttdih.pietaisipwer tio:pttopi;o6:. :461 the consent of his right hon. friends below le 91 delivered them.. The has. member for the West Riding airs neighbour was encoaeiog his capitel. (Rear &g unme n thet a : th e is pereetlies war. T l ms prese was goaded en am pa rti bli es e opinion into in vari to ewes WM% the hieratic/a fact. (Hear , hear.) So far from Mule, the consent eft the French government .anliqrfe a the preen goading the public heiliag into en arti probation of Austria,. as well as the concurrence of inhibited their deliberate °plebs sad mai/dim; they as • fulfilment of those points by which the Ind agre e d a ss muted so stimulant or excitement • they acre 1 her preponderance in the Black Sea should Cease. re" two other methods, both of which wa from their east instinct and Melilla-thee; manly feelings hear ) That that preptederance might have been tits which, Is spite of the peace party, I hope will animate the cease by other moms was quite maquestiocable; people of England. ( Hear.) But it is somewhat entrain- did not make it, in the strict sense of the word, a st ry - ' , publie opinion went with them, should sow reproach and deft; and Me having nothing else to 10 0 p... r - t r i e Lam& taunt the members of this house with being untrue soon naturally mine to an end. That bet a . e r brke• organs of public opinion. (Hear, hear.) After having built the question was what the home was ;, na e lsee . their own fame on being the organs of public opinion the present state of things. (Hear, hear.) Te a - KZ and the national will, it is strange that they should now hoe. gentlemen (Mr. Disraeli) had given the le nsa i° - "._ endeavor to make it a reproach to this bolos and to the opportunity before the recce s of determining ee r ie, Le government that they were following the national feeling conduct of the war should be left in the hand in n e nn • on this great question. (Hear, hear.) At this late hour I now was. or transferred to the hands of those who will not follow them is their many fallacr ustear . id ( th rea aTt r wies he bp a or l D .) . o nm p os pg ri i i te stiotof T trl h ooy e .th h e o (C u lt se hneesetn h i a o.) : a „mod time They mi Th e e m ir be a r pe fo se r h th es e vi abo e u st nd ß e i d dia in g. fa l lla t tes. neve, down n ee • mood to limit the foroe of Rustic in the Black Sea to satiated the poverement would have am. 4 sail of the line and 4 frigates, but that Russia , by certain message from the Crown, and bans prop osed an a contrivanees, could make her fleet in the Black Siut greater pledging the house to support her Maj e sty i n a „Tareg °thins@ srtrtlntho.;"fithertbelitlPeePoeowipielne.iowonibnu th poniinds than it was before. Well, if that be so, why did not Russia prosecution of the war. That was nanecnisty, wept our proposa l j (Hug) The iton, gentleman said Dermal bad done that himself. That which rea s i aa r that Russia did not accept it, because it would have been his resolution, coupled with the letroduct en y inconsistent with bar hoses,. It is, therefore, for her honour posed by Sir F. Baring, would form precisely the rerr :Pr,,__ sad glory that Russia is maintaining this war, but the which the government had it taken the iiiitiative rnna i a - ,'" , hon. gentleman hes told us over and over again that honour proposed to the house. Neat week, when they were able `. and glory are not things ter which a nation should fight- lay on the table the remaining portions o f the oegati:t7 that we should fight only for other Meer coesideratione the government would have broadly asked the eset s which I will not further advert to. (Laughter.) I hie on. to agree to such a resolution. He had eg ran n - " gentleman, however, said that be would fight-(laug)- this motion were swept away, to propose an r"m but that if the enemy were to come to Portainnuth-lot to of the opinion of parliament on this s tate o f things,at: the Isle of Wight-(laughter)-hat to Portsmouth, the remaining papers were produced. The h ouse hod A : he would—go into an hospital. (Loud laughter.) termined to go on with the debate. B.,iugr no . am; But many -stems in this country-let not the hon. gentle- come toe division, it was childish to ask them to wither, - men deceive themselves upon it-think that that party the resolution,. which the right hon. grey, en my ought to go into hospital indeed, bat an hospital of a very afraid of meeting. He was perfectly content to tek e llil d, s Itsdifferen kind- (much laughter and chseriog)-an h osp i tal rinse of the house upon that assurance of support orka the which all not mention, but which everybody g hon. gentleman, very much to his crd prOD,4-" stands. (Laughter.) Those gentlemen whom* se ansious that the house should express. Such an uterine. g o nic a to make poses on their own terms say, what madness doubly va!uable to the government lollooiog, as it did ts, - is It to go to war with a nation numbering large majority on the last division, by which it ary ; l ,.. -- 60 millions of inbabitaats. But, do they not know that the that they wale the government to whom that Puppe t , n : population of Englaad and France also numbers &brut 60 to be given. (Cheers.) But they were eked to try o r; mil:ions, and that they have the further advantage of con- were the objects of the war. Everybody knew pretty wen cen ration, and all the arts and appliances which what were the objects of the war. he w.r w as sec • civilisation and science can give, in additios to to repress the egressions of Russia noon 'fu r k ey, -e a the national feelings which belong to nations in the not say to defend Const a ntin . lee, for that ese.--; condition of England and Fiasco, but which never narrow and limited view of the matter; if T v6 . 'an be wetted by the unhappy serfs of the had nothing left but Constantinople it wo u ld MC?, with one km sovereign with whom they are contending? (Cheers.) The worth many . years' purchase ; bat it wee t def en d us hen. member for Maacheeter, in a speech of undoubted Turkish empire from being swallowed up by Russ a• it maw ' talent, has been pleased to find fault with me for treating, for that that England and Fiance were lighting. Th er iai es be ear, grave subjects with unbecoming levity. (Hear, be -is blandly and c•villy told by the &era govefi nei n hear) am not conscious of deferving that reproach; that Turkey must fall, that the mac was sick, that ken f but the house will not accuse Min on that heed- deathbed was approaching, that there was an me et , ra (laughter)-for certainly his jokes had not much levity in be divided. and that if Egypt and Candies would suit as, them. (Laughter.) I heard with regret the change of might wink at the partition of the reft by other • st opinion which has taken place in the minds of the right hon. (Hear, hear.) The intention of Russ i a to poet* geotomen who lately left the government, becaus , as will Turkey was manifest as the sun at noond a y ; it may l a I and properly acknowledged by them, they were not only prevent that that the war had been ondertila s , parties to the war, and to the terms giblet should in general (Cheers.) And lot no man imagine, if Torrey eie be proposed as the terms of pose*, but they were distinctly in the possession of Russia, it that gigantic r parolee to the insisting upon that arranger condition of tbe were to stride over Europe like • wheelie limitation of the naval forms of Russia in the Black Sea upon the Baltic and the other in the liderhurraneao, ti l t (Hear. hear.) There was one condition which they slips- the great interests of this country would not be i m p er ifi t g , r hood ihould not be made, but it is not the limitation of the Nor let the " peace-at any-price " party •magine that trair naval forces of Russia to the Block Sec Rear" from Sir ictereste would not suffer. Meer ) leotesd of their, I J. Graham.) To that condition, therefore, they must be being as they now were-40,0e0 bales of cotton raise t supposed to have selected. But I will not 'allude further weekly manufactured at kisochester in the plac e of 30,006 to that subject. I think it is hardly necessary at this time -all that lucrative trade up the Hulk &&&&&& nto the east of day, and at this period of the debate, to urge the reliant would be subjected to heavy incumbrances, it it slid cost why it is right, and necessary, and just, that England and actually disappear. The noble lord concluded byadjsri sg France should draw the sword in defence of Turkey. It is the house not tom this a cotelict of ponies, sat t t spew ant necessary for me to follow in detail all the extensions themselves true representatives of the nivional fen* Dy I of territory which has marked the advance of Russia for a giving their support to a vigorous prosecution of the wee long time. It would be easy for me to follow her from (Cheers.) I the E totem shores of Asia through Central Asia, Sir J. GRAHAM wished to explain that he and henget through the Caspian Sea, through Armenia, Poland, hon. friends near him, though they were parte' to the Sr. I and the Danube, and then through the extreme rangement of the proposition to be made to Russia, dead confines of Norway and the Arctic Sea-it would be easy for insist upon it as ultimatum or sine 9.6 , 1 non. rme to show that in her treaties she never took any natural Mr. LOWE rose to speak &mime loud cries of " boundary as the limit of her territory, but some artificial and " spoke." ',panties, which would give her the pretence or the ono- The CHAIRMAN told him that he had the oppeetsatty casioa of farther aggression. (Hear, hear.) When such of addressing the twine when he moved his madam has been the policy punned by Resets, and when and could not du so now. we find the present Emperor of Russia declating The qui stion was then put, and preparatioos were ends that his mission was to carry into effect the for a division. system pursued by Peter and Catherine, and Alexander and Sir W. HEATHCOTE'S &mordant was negatived. Nicholas, we tilt that the time was come for defending the Mr. PH IL ul MOUE withdrew his amendment. independents, of Turkey and of Europe from such aggro- Mr LOWE withorew his amendment, anion. (Hoar, hear.) War, therefore, was declared, and The question was put on the amendment of Fit?; Austria having expreeed her desire to bring that war to a SARIN& upon which termination by amicable meant the treaty of December was Mr. WALPOLE said that although the wording aide concluded, the purport of which wee, that if peace was not amendment was not satisfactory, he would nor damage the smart d by • certain time on the basis of the four points, appearance of unanimity on the subject of the wee by offer- Autris would-not take the field-but enter into concert log it any opposition. with England and Fromm for devising means to carry Mr. GLADS I ONE, although disapproving of the tens Mt the objet of the alike, that object being of the amendment, would sot to :e any opposition, sa le es secure the independence of Turkey. (Hear, hear.) thought it the duty of the beefs to offer her Majesty their Ragland and France would therefore have been blameable best support in tie prosecution of the ear. II they had not entered into these negotiations; bat had The motion before the house (Sir F. T. &nog's) me the operations of the war in the meantime been suspended ? then usenimously agreed to. Oa the contrary, they bad been carried on with the utmost The other orders of the day were then disposed of, sad !tem during the conferences. (Hear, bear.) The right the house adjourned at half past 2 o'clock. hoe. gentleman bad made several suggestions, some of which were no doubt well deserving of consideration. He wished, for instance, to have the Principalities declared to be neutral. He (the nobl- lord) was not disposed, however, M attach any great practical impoetance to that proposition. In the first place, when • quarrel had arisen, and when it became desirable for the Belli t powers to possess the sestral territory, that neutrality had =sly respected. Besides, were the Principalitiee, if de neutral, to be continued a p nion of the Ottoman empire ? If they wore not, then they would mos share the fate of Polan d; if they were not, then the moment hos tilities broke oat, Russia would cease to respect tneir neu trality, for war dissolved all treaties. (Hear, hear.) But the interests of the Principalities had not been neglected. It had been proposed to put them under the protection of the Five Powers, and to establish a system of internal defence. 1 A force would have been established which, if not at once sufficient to resist a Russian invasion, would have supplied the foundation of • national defeats,. (Hear, hear.) He (the noble lord) entirely differed from the rig ht hon. gen tleman in thinking that the Hack Sea was be side on which Turkey was the least vulnerable. (Cheers.) On the contrary, he believed that it was on that tide that Russia could strike ha most quickly, and to the heart. (Hear, hear.) They all kuew that the Turkish army at tee commencement of the present war had kept the Russian forms on the Danube at bey for twelve months; sad on a previous occasion, when the invasion wee made by a larger army and under more favourable circumetances, it bad taken the Rename two yeas to get to Aurienople. On the Asiatic side it was true that Russia had prepared a great fortress at • place called Gwen, a place which jutted into the Turkish territory, ante which was of no value, ex cept for purposes of aggression. No doubt that by means of that fortress, an connection with Tiflis, she would be able to invade Turkey on the Asiatic side. Bet the muck to Brows& was long, and the Russian force would have to encounter the Asiatic Turks, who were the most warlike of the Otto ems race. No .oubt that there might be danger on this side, wi oh ought to be provided against, but still the operation contemplated wee me that would require time. But how stood the case with reference to the Black Sea ? Why Constantinople was within 48 hours from Sebastopol. Tbe right bon. gentleman said that no groat fora could he despatched against that city, but an army might be col lected at Sebastopol, and might in a very short time be seat thither. The right hon. gentleman proposed to fortify the Bosphorus, but there were places not for north of the city where a large form might easily be put on shore. Why what had we done ourselves ? Since the lot of May we had landed 103,000 men and 14,000 hones in the Crimea; and in the worse of ten days we had car ried 40,000 Turks from Varna to Eupatoria. (Hear, hear,) There had been two propositions with respect to the safety el Constantinople-the open straits, and the closed straits. Now, the former of them had bees entirely given up by every hon. gentleman who bad addressed tbe house, with the exception of the hon. member for tbe West Riding. As • matter of fact, the straits were closed, and had always been closed by the inherent right of sovereignty which every state possessed over its own waters. And this was no new thi g. It was an anmant law of the Turkish empire that the straits should be closed ; though we were the first in 1809 who entered into • treaty to respect it. Now, supposing the straits were open, the Hessian fleet of eighteen or twenty ships of tke line might any day appler off the Seraglio ; an I there could be no doubt that whatever demands might be made that ' were supported by a demonstration of that kind, they would be grantee before night. But it was said that the Turks might send for the Rhein' and French fints. But where would they find them? (Hear, hear.) The • attempt might be made at a time when-as Inept ned once -we bad only two ships of the lino in the Mediterranean, if he did not exaggerate the number-(laughter)-when we had only one at Spithead, and that it was intended to lend to America. Why, long before we could equip • fleet the whole thing would On over. le the Straits were dosed, precisely the same thing might mese ; and the only method therefore by which they could secure Constantinople from the danger of sudden attack would be to limit the Russian force in the Black Sa. (Caen.) It should be remem bered that Ragland and Francs would have a right to keep as many ships in the Eosins as Russia; and the Turkish fleet might also be equal I. form, independently of any number et ships the Sultan might choose to have in the Bosphorus and the Sea of Marmon. (Hear, hear.) He (the noble lord) thoseht, therefore, that these terms might have bees accepted by Russia without loss of dignity; and that at the same time they would have sufficiently provided for the whey of Constantinople. But it was said that under the Ramis& proposition, if Turkey should feel herself meowed she would be at liberty to call in her alba. But the lemma that the Russian proposal wed that Turkey should be at liberty to call in any foreign 1 fleet ; and th erefore that coadifies would have enabled any Remiss minister in Turkey, by means which it would be ' assecenery to describe, bat which would be perfectly well understood, to prevail upon the Turkish minis ter to all in a Russian tint under pretence of some dossier which did not really exist. (Hear, bear.)' It wee said again that the Turks under the old treaties were obliged to keep the straits that except in ease of actual war. l But it was nonsense to suppose that a sovereign who saw • danger threatening him could be prevented from asking the aid of his allies. It wee no longer a state of poem The meetings of literary and ecitntific societies for the ensuing week are u follow : —Monday : Geogrsphiad, 81—" Journey to Hunter and the Somali Coast, East= Africa," by Lieut. Burton.—" On the Meteoric Iron CI A•SCIIMII, and the Coal Formation of Conception, in Chili," by Mr. Bollaert.—" Exploration of the Desert of Ataeame4 by Dr. Phtlipi.—" Observations on the Province of Tim. pica, South Pere," by Don Fuente.—" Observations on the Geopraphy of Peru, by Don Led , sma.—Tarsday: Spa Egyptian, 71.—" On the Origin of the Cuneiform Ch. rector,' by Mr. Abington.—" Critic al Exantiostioa of the Original H-brew Text referring to the Biotin.," by Dr. Benisch.—" The Natron Monasteries in Eqpt," by Er. Wraahall. Indetc.l, 9.—Scientific. Wednesday: Boyd Society of Literature, 4}. Socety of Arts, 8. Oener 1 Meet ing. Geol &cal, B.—" On Resnais of Dicynodoa host South Attics," and "On a Fossil Sirenoid Mammal frog Jamaica," by Prof. Owen.—" On the Br iwu Cloy Forma. tion of Germany," by Prof. Beyriek.—" 01 the Sadao! the Metamorphic and Devonian R icks at the Eutera End of the Grampians," by Prof. Nicol.—" Oa the Ocur• renal of Fossil and Driftwood in the Arctic Regions," by Sir R. I. Murchison.—" Oa the lisieed Beaches of Lock Gilphead," by Commander E. J. Bedford.—" Od Su& worn Granite," by Mr. Fox.—" On the Red Sail of Indio," by Dr. Oilchrist.—" On the Oairet and other Coal fields of Central India," by the Rev. Masers. Hislop and Susie. —"Notes on the Earthquakes at Brass., by M. Conn! Sandia's. B • • h Archeological, 81.—“00 Canterbury la the Olden Time," by Mr. Brent.—'• On Egyptian Glue," by Mr. Pettigrew.—" On Holy Trinity Church, Aylesford," by Mr. P. ea ty. Thursday: Society of Antiquaries, 8. Boyd, 81. Friday : Royal Institution, 131 —" Ou the unite d the Excavation in Assyria and Babylonia," by Cu!. Rawls ' sem. Saturday: Asiatic, 2. There is now to be seen in the Museum of CEcom• esie Geology is Jermyn.street a part of the trunk d Willow tree lately felled in Battersea Fields, in the entre of which was found an aerolite, or ma teorto stone, of viol large size, which seems to have fallen on the tree way years ago and to have embedded itself in its substages " It is a prodigious curiosity (says the Gardener's Chroi• de) andwellworth examination." The Working Men's CoPege, Cambridge, is now fairly established. The number of students already sa• rolled on the hocks amounts to 112. The tn et ',mkt subjects are English Grammar, mathematics, Latin, French ; drawing, and vocal music; and the list of names include , persons aimed in almost eveiy occupation. It is is. tended, by.eed-by, to establish an adult school in coin nezion with the College. A working m.n , wri log to the Cambridge Independent, says :—" I entertain a confident hope and aspects ion that this College will prove a red blessing to the town and neig , bourhood. I w old sly, in the language accustomed to be used every day at college, Flareat Dolma—God bless the Working Me. 's College." The Glasgow Daily Mail gleans from exteemin inquiries that there is every reason to eao ct a full nem, stack of grouse this season, and certainly above that of 18.54. At s meeting, yesterday, of the ladies patroeenee of the Caledonian ball, it was stated that Lady Agars Del had undertaken the formatioa and direction of a feacy set, to be en• itled " Ths English and French Quadrille." Lady Anne Mackenzie will, as usual, lead a Hignland quadrille. The Herald states that intelligence has arrived by telegraph of the death of Rcar-Admiral Boxer, at Belsklays. He is mid to have died from cholera. Captain Ricbsrder one of the Lnds of the Admiralty, now becomes rear•sdmitill of the blue, and relinquished a good service pension. The following is the resolution adopted by the House of Commons last evening :—" That this house, having seen with regret that the Confrrenc s of Vienna have net led to a terminatina of hostilities, feels it a duty to declare, that it will continue to give every support to bar Majesty in the prosecution of the war, until her Msjeety shall, is conjunction with her Attie., obtain for this country a sale and honourable peace." Mies Cuehmar is at present on a visit at Roee-mill Hall, Ostescre, near Liverpool. This eminent nuns shortly returns to the Haymarket fora we, k. The forthcoming masonic ball at Oxford proteins to be a successful entertainment. The enact:6llor, Vier Chaatiedor, Proctors, the University, County, and CBI umbers, are invited and expected to attend. r~ ad mrdasilm Nog eg Mi P. 6 LO2 THE TIE Lord ditor trams is day time ith the big the Work al post bi sides. The J suppic he sani a the c efest t In the la troop titer e I Woolley little Inc riven si Chums] spon ow tentratel lb. F Macy col Santa n nch • which w Tu Qum *war %her loft &ILL ..•A and farther, that we Ind othatffilmile mad mines, and la ha Waded to issues the Maim a Finance, sad Mt M sheath the sword wail H. Moirmils emd arentia. 155 ayes mad motives otßomelo.liedi bow Imillorbed by our ems. The tight b.. berme (Sir W. lffelesweete) hod talked a then Wig ether de yams war :Alit haw rash* did dm Aeleamey-feaminal oimmiegiate ? lip the avenges of Whom. ea hawed metkeise ell santsewea wet iii meoeliden ems men mead; andi the tams de e m=l tee SOMA the moon inernmaintere eel= sai Did way or bales. lat the feret peir Sell been dimmed at Tease, or the the Remiss hew to far gulps and four tripes, seam hen sememplishedal or as, of the Anions wok k foamed a slaps. of tee boa. sad learned gestlemea's spur& ? This was nab too mine a (peados to be mods the mister of ream ,push's of that hied. The been was &shag with the safety mad the indeposdeses of Barone, with oso. enemies to this moan which might sae the boldest maa tenable to main that ay peones of these ease. gnome depended is his single &MM. What wee the gentles they were celled cm to seaside, ? He aimed wills &r F. Bung that thin wen diseases something all the interest of what lied peeled, sad that It was eatrastely difiesit to know tits pewee Wins of ths vote they war. about to gin. (Roar, hear.) He hod anis "lowa intend- Mg to appose kis right hoe. friend (Sir F. Baring). sot hum may giedieelat admieetha of the emeadniest Ise bad Mowell, abide ail Set lasi to any practical or &Rohe eesst.isat het himpportad it is proforma* to Mr. Lou's emsedmism, whisk was so Whit& that there was so min ie. and whisk, if adopted, would lea to irreparable .Tsh isestely hoped that neither &a first nor W mama pert of that amendment would meet with say tavola hem the house, sod that no large memoir of tnembres is either side would vote is its hear The argamests urged is (*Tomo( pone were ennui, those which hod his. used all through the Finch war, namely, that the House Commons withisd the grouse; power of 'coy body is the world. mad had therefor* the imam ins possibility; that the hoodoo of the home was an to make seam or war, hot to uprise its wino, as ths sends of be advisers of dm crows. Already. since th• war cow amen ad, the home had removed ma ministry. A motion we mash, whish, if carried, would kayo removed another. VIM woe the legitimate (wades of the bomb. Bat Mr. Limit aMemisiemt would seem them ii step beyond their immelleme. Ears that amendment to be adopted, how weld Le d J. moll, or my other ploulpotootiary, go to This M eagage in future negotiations, fittend as this alleatry Veda be by • resolution of that hoses? (Hear, hoar.) Meanies would naturally object to eater into nego. Naas with a minister who was is reality not a plenipo essalam bet who same to the 000tbrence with • moieties olrs Rows of Comatose pledging him not to discuss ..s pants. It was said the resolution refined osly to dm Wed point ; but that was the essential ono. (Hear, Wm) Emma if the mode@ of Sir F. Smug were emended • geignied by Mr. Lows he doubted whither the latter =TWeeld wept ; for it regretted that the eon ed ilia. (Rear, hear.) He thought eves the ellialllMMe WOWS not accept the amendment, though it usenid Mho • hare stimmeat of foss, far the sonfereass had sot bees doted whoa W motion was submitted, and thentao it add sot thee be said tbat the negotiations had tek.eißomeeidesagala to the Attorney-General's speech, Areetfm alliservid that he exaggerated fear d giewteg power it Eosin might do more harm theft •11111•11gg it. Th• power of Russia, though gnat mowed with Turkey, was not so es manta with Groat Britain. (Hear, beer.) Hs did mot Oink there was any necessity to all the pes simisms missend by th• Attetam-Guienl. He looked open die dime= of Airohamielas as the greatest dugout in white We eseothey bad bum Meshed ; bat that bed arises from es as. marl tsar of dm power sad mobisetions et R. czar, hear.) Tamper wenn wm to set aside say abler eltimelm tkaa them - whiok had hitherto boss re garded mi She pormaemme edema eed Wawa at this ~dm le rims to wakaell whisk the boom bat hitherto 11•1111111, inimperesd. TM supplis• aweemery tar earning at the tier Ind how thearfally voted by the boon, sad imported by the ,ashram.. feeling of the country. (H ear, Isis.) Bat we mast, is widener, limit ourselves to the *OW dames haw me. •A met look forward to other pro- Whig tame mil xemille &won He should give kis sup own tithe mass ; andhelbftmatitwasthedutyofeery Bailie/visa to give his bast and cordial support to his enmign sad for ministers, whoever they might be, ia the ef f ectual peasmation of the war. Bet hr dimenialed dissussious the oily .Q at of whittle meet be to add a sow chapter to sue difficulties, to mate a new war, M a new object, with new motive, open new rods 2 ft slight be with new ernes, it might even be with sew no- Mies—sad to do that for objects which were sot specifically d'Amil, or were ashy cosveyed to the home in inane. ham periediosited to the teeing of the moment. Let them Miediene in CM coons which the hone had always globe le the crown cordial and effectual support, showing to the prerameat and the nontry, by She his end language or their deletes, that te4Mgendlkeataws,menfind those lives, made these ▪ gni leeneelell thee marilloes, _to guard against the mil medial denims ailide bud already been resniteted by M tendon d 11111111111111•1. end not for any remote, un lammed. %alumni/a 111.111. dissected with those saga topics weicas be rertineld bad berm iatrodemil into the debate. Mr. DISRAELI leatmdt.d, his edgiest chugs of io elimaistoncy end amdligefty egoista ministers bad bees hilly sishisatialled. The issue a wto he decided wee of ' Oho unmet aseguenee. If the beam dionght it wise to dealer* that the esedithas introdueed into the confereame at Vienna by llio gable lord the thiaseszy of State, for tho Itemisation of the Remiss Ant, should los the rim quo team I of a wee. thee i nznit .im. the mamma, of the member foe . New be (Mr. Disraeli) -es opposed to thst o sid merely bosom be thought it highly impolitic for the Hewn of Coelnioaa in this short sad hop. hued maser to pkidge itself to • position which he thought was swimmable, bet bonne it wee his *sift that ' the proposition if the noble lord was one which asbestine to have bora made, and was essential, inefficient. He would try to Ante before the house the reasons why be thought that thie senditiok abstracted from the cptasticie of ley, was allellietely fient. The object of the noble sad of hi asnesineat, well to nine the navel pee s& Sias is the Black See. Oar onion at pre sume we to sheik ei diminish, if possible to destroy, what awes alleitheCallaissease of Russia as against Turkey. Neale he pleme, he would make this observation, Might le wag of the golds lord's consideratioa, Mat W repeadesemes of laadams usenet Turkey is the poilliial egoism seme met BBMWt WBleck See. Hs should ash eitlilltde tam 01 being eistogiond op those who were well,. of the onijmmf,Ha of the thew misrers frogs which Turkey might be .woad by Zags, the Black flee was the on from which it was the ham ti be hared. Turkey we. sessiloble by Ramis hem the Don de*, from Asia, sad hum the Bleak Sea. What we willed the prepoadrranee Mania equally present epee Turkey from the Danube, from Asia, ad from the Black See. Now the project of W noble lard say preemeded to meet the difficulties and Mogen which might arise from the Ruoin preponderance is the ark am. whisk, as ha thought he tios , d show the able. lard, wee the Met to be feared. He (Mr. Disraeli) dean* that Remain bad the power, that she ever bad or said have the power of sending an army, with the neon. Nary cavalry, artillery, and means of trenersort, from Sebastopol or say other port in the Black Sea le the Turkish comets. She a had • fleet, she sever could have a fleet for nab en operation, when the mind snits of Ragland and Freese, the two grimiest maritime powen of the worol, bad ben able to drat sash ae object. A loused mina on the soma night of this debate talked of the great expedition of the Remise army to Daher Skelesid, which ha estimated at 6.000 am. lie (Mr. Disraeli) did sot think the Turkish maws we to fall by en lenses of 6,000 men. He happened to be in the anew, at that tame, sad he th night the learned mine% aedenteted his me ; sad if he bad *LA 10,010 or 12.000 men, be would base been nearer the mark. But that small lone, the mania which was a prodigious ettort, and cost all the power whisk amnia could command, woe &attend be the Turks, Me were most anxious to /naive W bersisati. (Hcaft. hem) All that Russia could do, wader smy elammeinneso. weld be to throw troops apes the neet k es she did le lfir" when ohs disembarked forms aS Stlettell earl which be (111 r. Disraeli) recollected ; sad they remised &mi—they never mond, and had no power of moviag. He did not say they were utterly it. drain Is the course of the empties ; they made, to a @erten attest, a sanitary Cowan for Rem* who wee then isvediag Turkey from the Danube. Bet so far from pedalling say effect ou the fete of the wee, it mashie, sad it was now, impossible that say mil tary fern moved from Sebastopol as Turkey saki possibly do it. There mealy cm prat ea the Turkish coast when Turkey mold be sessile& with effect • sad that he admitted was the Bosphorus. To Yet poise he would prometly refer. Of parer be did an protead to start seek as opines es that bans( the commaad of the sat was set a very great oireatage to Rusk, in say war with Toren. By tire ~.mead of tha se& mks mild bring provision, easoninitien, eras, to say fees she mig ht hare ea the onset. But it woe • livened edentate, not detain of the molt of war. Well this, let the house look at the Datum of the proposal, for the limitation of the navel forms of Taney mad Reese —Teekey was to have only • *Math number of ships is the Beak Sea, bat she we to kayo an malimitad somber of ships in the Bosphonts—Resda was to kayo only • limited number is this Black Sus, cat she would be able to baild as sway ships as se • liked at Nisholaleff, where she builds, .11 her ships; and she cola airy down thole skips. as he (Yr. Disraeli) had seen them floated lowa, la four or five days to Sebastopol, rigged nisei boned, mimed in guns, and prepared, in bee thin ;maw eeek Well, then, whet would hen bloom aim Ming t Sammie there hod been the inset inn., surupulees, and visa obesevanse of this May, ell that Turkey mold haw eased by it was that perhaps it might base sa steatites A throe or four weeks if there was a war • but if it hop need, as it was Nam to haws, that Maisie daciand wee ItaTarkoy, se maasmd, as sea weal M ile r s. k i e; shield helms war against Rosen wham was gaits prepared for it, this of wane we diamill haw the Rwian tint Boated down, equipped mid dastiag is Black See, before the dipaearis ems wm g rows op to remonstrate naiad the violating of the emiaty. (Hoar, hen.) It therefore would require ammo & wheaten sad cemmeare d sees om tho part ia l Loki tingly,y, v and ngly, without a on of the treaty. ohm weld always haw. is ease of a declaration of war, • due is W Sink Sea, ewe without sending to she Unied Scat* toe those 130 gas ships of width the hone bad hoard so amig. (Bar, busy.) This pant had bees dimmed with greet amity sad ray tally fa the earn of the debate; aid he (Kr. Disraeli) lied only refined to it, became he Meld speak of euftainamoss Wallis his men minium, . isw . '. am ne.