The Express. — London, England, 1850-05-15 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS-Tummy, MAT 14. The Mose mat at are e'olosk. Lori LUIGI/LLB oat PARLIAMENTARY VOTERS (IRELAND) BILL.— THE WHITSON RECESS. Lord STANLEY wished to Mew ea whet day the noble siessais (Leaslewm) proposed to reed • emend time the Parbamatery Voters (Inaad) DUI. At the Game time he mosid Moire when it was presemod toadies:a he the Whit ens mug, sad to what day ? TM *mph of LANSDO WNE said ft wee &Millie that the bid to womb the noble Med atheist sheedd be paned se speedi se moeible. The noble awash ores them under need so mese Thanday form isle far the seared With refer.me to the ateantmest of the home, Iss t showed anew ea Fade) the the he... do ahem mill the Ibilowiag Illeaday ee'eroght. Lad PORTMAN waved be the poistmest of a sabot semmittee to effssitst the law parochial settle eats a. The ekes* of Ws samsitose his tp esPhllthd be the fairer sppertimseest a the which t pro perty of 'awry was to reatribate aro M m a the relief o he f the A TM Memel ef LANSDOWNE maeseted fe the mottos. TM Bishop of LONDON alluded to • pledge soma pears alma pima by the geveraseeet em tW sobjeet, sod ealurged tapes the primmer which the coasts, eaderweat Orem* dm Imo ielitiee of the lasi amemests. The mottos AO for a WOO Ileinal L iCIGG was tlesa small to. lUCULTORA DISTRESS. The Eml of WARWICK meowed apathies, el whisk be had prom 110600. hew Warwickshire, eemplelaisi sari. cultural di.treer. 1M sable earl made soma eheervatiews is airport of the prayer if the palms, whirl were perfestly imudible io the PARISH CONST ABLES BILL. _ _ Oa the mOtisiOlitie Enl of ItoitssT, the bases west into committee es the above bill. One at two verbal smesdmests were IsserSok thiamin re. .tier!, sad the bill was ordered to be SUNDAY TRADING PREVSZt i Ii BILL. The bete west into emassittes as this bill. Lord BEAUMONT amtirsted that sa the bill had bees very materiaby altered in the select committee, it should be re sammutted to a e nansittes of the whole house. He found that • provision bad been instead to the effect that say barber ezeralelas hie.estling after ten o'clock is the 111016i01 of essday, NINON he heed .51. for the first beard shaved, 10s. far the seemd, and so on. (Lsughter.) Be metaisly fesad his Seabee so muck interested in the sage of the distress, d barbels that he wished for some opportssity to re consider this 141117 pesal provision. (Hear. near.) Atter as orservaties hem the Earl of HA It/OW3T, the chairman reported pro rem, sad the bill was ordered to be m-essmitte 1. The Estates Leering (Ireland) Bill was read • meted WM. Y WY the Judgments (Ireland) Bill. The Distressed Lilacs Adrenals and Repayments (Ins tead) Bill wee passed through committee after some pro lapsed discussion as the alums. lkeis lordships edionraed at halt•past eight. HOUSE OF COMMONS.- 7 TUESDAY • MAT 14. Tao Bpsokaa took tie choir at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. BOLTON IMPRUVEMBNT BILL. This bill raring boss r ad a third tiny., and a motion mule to is soden, an amendment of which notice had been mres, Mr. B. WALL objected that the amendment introduced an alteration in the law of Easlar.d wit► retard to Sunday trading, treaties offences sad imposing penalties which were net now recognised ►y the law as t: applied to other psrts of the counter. Mr. R. PALMER, as the chairman of the committee on the bid, ez v idued that the clause is question bad been peered by the omnibus, baying been isiermed that it was espied Eros the Maucheater P.Ause Bill, w►en it had wor►ed ortemsely well. The words now proposed to be introduced were neeesaay, in order that the clause might ant alter the law as regarded licensed vistitallers and beer•shop ►eepers, ea farm regarded their being allowed to open after church ►oars. After eseke eoeversation, the amendment was greed to sad the bill pulsed. THE MANCHESTER RECTORY DIVISION BILL This bils ►oviag hemmed a third time, en ainvadasest was proposed, we quirinki the dean and canons to render peri odical acenoots to t►e registrar of the dwells& court. Mr. GOVLBURN wished to call attention to the locos veeience of waling wit► groat public questions by means of a private bill. Ea believed that one half of those who had voted tot the bill knew no:eing about it. It would be as reasonable to propose by a private bill to relieve Mancha ter front the psyment of the window tax. The sinenesent Ye bad proposed would have aided 4.:001. a year to the spiritual instruction of Manchester. The amender-lit was agreed to, and th• bill passed. LONDON (WATFORD) SPRING WATER COMPANY BILL. Mr. EVANS baying moved the second reading of this bid, The motion was discussed at some length, much opposition being manifested on the ECM of tee interference it contest- Owed with rivet* rights and lettersets. Oa a division the bill was lost by a majority of 196 to 90-106. METROPOLITAN WATER WORKS (RENLEY.ON- ( RE AND LONDON AQUEDUCT) BILL. This MU was atiewards diennaid, dor osooiid reading Wag moved by 31: W. Moleswortk, and supported by Mr. Blum Mt. Masts, Mr. Monett, and Mr. B. °donne; Lord Ashley, Mr. Willyarns,Col. Knox, Lord R. Grosvenor. and other members, Wyoming the amendment that the till' be road a second time that day ex months. A d:vision then took place, and the bill was negatived by =Orley of 226 to 116_._ IRISH POOR LAW. Mr. fRENCH gave notice that on the 4th of Jana he would os/I attention to the working of the Irish p3Of law. __ __MOW IN CEPHALONIA._ Nr. KUNZ gave Mk* that en the lith et hive he would bring under tee anise of the hew the late riots in Cephelonin. ADIOURI!MEN; OF THE HOUSE Lord J. RUSSELL lumped that the house at lurking attaito Tamviday, upon which . a FREWEN made some remarks from under the gal lery, wakh were inaniible, but were supposed to have refer- NM to a notice be bad put on the paper to the effect that the bore should 'soot at twelve o'clock on Thorslay to &met the orders of the day fixed for Wednesday. J. RUSSELL dii not assent to the obsenrabons of the how. member, sod his motion for adjournment was agreed to. _ RECONSIDERATION OF THE CORN LAW. Petitions petite. for proration es agriculture and • re eraideration of the era question, were presented by Mr. PACER. from Hinckley in Leicestershire ; Mr. J. BAILEY (several pritions), from place. in Herefordshire ; and Mr. HILDTARD, from Nottingham. Mr. ORAN TLEY BERKELEY then rose to bring forward the leftism of which he had given notice, namely that the boner resolve itself into • committee of the whole hoses, so take into mensideration the acts relating to the imports. ties of foreign era. Alluding to the repeated complaints of agricultural distress which had from time to time appeared, raise with the recent meetines in the metropolis. and the Memorial presented on Saturday last to Lord J. Russell, the ken. member dechred that all those complaints were met by the government with opposition and often witheoutempe Did be sot know that the noble lord wee Incapable of es rataleing nawerthy feelings, he would say that the noble lord open that occasion spoke in • tom of angry bitterness towards the. gentlemen who had foregone kis - advt.. There never was a dam when the distress complained of was more mewing and adverse), sad yet government had refused any further interference. la fact it would seem that, as regarded those 'offering interests, Weis/sties we at • complete stag nation, and matters were to be allowed to ramie as they warein the hope %betray would mend themselves. Lehmann were working at Matra wages, sad the price of wheat ens se low that foram could not mow it at • sufficient profit, end were masequently demanding a reduction of rent,. The average pries of wheat was about 101.1 load There was SO probability that the importation of (steins corn would dial sish lemmata, nor that the price at home would increase so as to remunerate the ;grosser. Under these circumstances the agriculturists looked to the government foe tie allevia tion of their sufferings, but the government with all ti e& profession, cf retrenchment and cc 'Dray did nothiari, unless it were that they gave the suffering sin calturiels bricks when they 'eked for bread—a measure of very questionable advaatege. If it benefited SST of the agricultural body, it was the lauded proprietor and not the tenant-homer. Bat he believed that it was a far greater boon to the large manufacturing tows, than to either. The israleeds had bra told that ale they had to do was to lower their ram He maistaieed that no government or hen. member bed any right to cell upon prints indisi fuels to meet the difficulty which public legislation had created. Even supposing that rents had been reduced, altbosgh it might have contrihuted to diminish the evil, yet it was a remedy which would have ruined the leaded proprietors, and the result of which would soon be felt by the manufacturing classes. If this treatment of the egnoulturel dames was an espetiment he maintained that it had beta sufficiently tried. It they were not satis fied with the ruin cruel already by their hybrid meant.— for it was not • measure of free trade—when, he wished to know, would they be mutant ? because there was not a single spark is the political herime which gave one hops that the merare would ever antes at a successful issue. The tenant-farmers were unable to pay their rants, farm sales were takinv place every day, sod in this state of things they were toll to be of good cheer, that the present low price of prori-ions would not last. Why, this low pries wae the very thiag desired by the free traders, Stever,' bees they demanded. (Hear, hear.) Awl now, when drives Into a diffitulty, they exclaimed. " Oh, you'll be better et soon ; prices will be hitter!" He did not ask the house for protection; he only asked them to remind der their post erroneous policy, with • view to devise BOMJ remedy for the present agricultural stiffener,. If a cheap loaf were not the object of free trade he trusted that some member of the government would tell him what was. Ile thought he was cornet In his remembruice that one member of the gonesesest said he did not expect that pric e would be so low. Then, he said, on that ground they were entitled to have further consideration. If they found that they had gone further into the min than they expected, It was wise, and just, sad expedient to retrace their steps. Now, sampriog that the present prices were to continue, and he maintained they mull, and sue peeler( that when lumen Lead the cultivaticu of the soil no longer nmusentive, they ceased to cul tivate it; and suppmine that the supplies from abroad were to be stopped, what then became of Moaned ? Were we not made in some measure dependent on torsion- Ms, and VAN it not an unworthy policy to pier, the earsordy its such time, by ea mearticat sad day were aid by thet esilisatiee • a the @Milks at had en aeknowledged, in fact, of arida es which 0.. list his bass pil i • printed turd aw ea which hand dot there WON thirtai z e r e el sin. still • ditty. lir they per a Ms, • tax en the Is. they meilimia • tea es the feed the es la Mile Wham ? Why di Mo dthey re macs fres made. end lite elf 'wiles c slatlmr ? Why did they net adopt • system by whit the farmers of this retry mad eampete with the foreigner ? Hs held is his lead • return dated the 23,4 April, 1860, ef the average pissed wheat, barley, and oats per quartet in Rashad flail Wales, from the let of January to the 10th `pill lashasile. They said them that the pressat =WI" 1 . 4 t• leis that the prises of corn were M . Now, so hr as this return welt the pieta sea. Untied te &dile sad the impertatlous to imams.. Cele parting the week wad* the 6th January with the week wasp the 24th of April, iseporillien of wheat was chest doable, wheaten flour leek bat barley more thou doableuead sate more Mae double. Frees Russia there were humeral,'" 173,282 quarters of wheat, and from the United Settee 13,944 Torten and 248,324 ewt. of fl mt. There WSW have been a The of rid. to ls., bat that was owing to the snot winds which had lately been so prevalent. Priors might get up a little in that way, but he was much mistaken If, Stiff the lest harvest, pr.ces did not fall to a much lower amoral than they had reached at present. They would dad that in America and other insists countries a rtreagar breadth of wheat had been sown, and that year by year the': utmost and aabardaned forsiguar could sand to this errantry sash a quantity of cats se Naively te 11111deMbe W home farmer in his own musket. He maintained, ham every single symptom of the times, that prises would OM done to be kept down, and that agricultural deputies slut continue to exist. They knew very well that was possible in America to buy land at one -tenth of the value of Lad in this country, and they was not poise abolish 'livery in America, the question now agitating thin meow, being not whether slavery should exist, but where k should exist. The fres traders set out by promising us a lead r it were of =Pk and honey, that happiest. would be diluted all our the land. Rai - their prophecies been fulfilled 1 Hs said that Ns MO stools prophecy that they had advanced hat been ful filled, but that they had been utterly and th o r ou ghly wrong in their promises from beginning to end. Look to the promises made, particularly to the fanners of this country, by the hon. member (or the West Riding. He said that happy abundance was to follow in the waka of free trade, and that there would be an increase of wits. ? New, had the labourers Lad an increase of wages? Oa the row tray, had they not, in =soy counties, been reduced to is. a week? (deer, hear.) Had they not less money te bay the cheap loaf with than they had to parches the dear MI ? (" Hear, hear," from the protectionist beaches.) Than there was to be such a spirit of activity pervade the land, that foreign imports were to be kept oat, and this was all to be traced to advance ice. science and puseveraccs in laying out capital. Why, was it fair to expect, was it probable, that persons in any particular trade would put ea increased activity it they took away from them the value of their products. When the faname found out the Intentions of the Matehestar ardical— when they found it was to be a class legislation they to find that they had not trusted in the right man. complain and to run restive at the doctrines of th ey besito Manchester school, he was sorry to say that the hon. member for the West Riding likened them to the stupidity of their own oxen, and that the hoe. member for Manches ter called them cowards. He could make great allowance for a hasty expression uttered is • time of anger and excitement, and he should not have alluded to them expressions, but fa the rather furioso speeches of the bon. member for the West Riding who absolutely seemed to say— I%lu:weer @big this cloak dlsilace, Mutt meet Ktug Richard bct to face. The hon. member then read a document, which he aid had been furnished to him by Mr. Locke. It wua statement cf the loss which had been sustained by tree trade in the county of Suffilk, and which he thought would well portray the state of the apricuitual districts of this country gette!ury._ To afford ai eaamp'e of the =neer in which the Glided interest of one of oar most agricultaral e =ties has beset aided by the ope ration of the free-trade ossoure of 1046, I hare bet In velar to the fallowing sheet statement. The county under oomalsealins is fluffidk, and it is to the farmers' capital in that want, AM I dial tall atten. two. The eatintated quantity c 4 Mod In Suffolk ormoomMo to 910,00 acres, comp icing about 40,000 saes of rich loam Mad, at salami W. pm murk wYtimain. £369,000 10,000 „ marsh, at 101. 00.1,000 100,000 ~ poor sandy mil, at 3/. 7, 3.10,000 150000 „ good mixed soil, at 91. „ 1,350,000 430,000 „ wet. heavy Lad, at 61. 3,690,000 02,000 „ waste. wood, and read s Making a totalf From the tsformation I hav e derived derived to refereed* to tin 56,418,000 meaty, three teazel bare been a loss of Mee than om•third Sam free trade came into operation. The meant capital, thereere, of the farmers of 'Suffolk is reduced by Leering a bet of cedy gi,278,G47 To en a alight insight tato the working of the soil now, and the anneal tore sostained through the instrumentality of the act of 1816, I may mention that a diminution, or rather actor' annual lose in tic cultivation of the land, has taken place to the following amount* in tkelialferent description, of sod : nhillisys. Acres. Loss. IS per sere on 46,000 at rich Icon land 20 „ 80,000 mania BO.OOO 3 „ 10 0 ,010 poor sandy roil '23,040 15 ~ 130,000 Rood mLied 30 „ 44,003 heavy land 073,000 Annual lose la the cultivation of the soil 1922,000 It mar have been observed before that the loss of capital esnisanted to Giving a total of The above statement embraces the whole county generally. We now treat the same in a keel point of view. In one village alone I tan slaw a km to the brow in as are of seven hundred and sixty4x alms of no lees then IW. fa. Oa analysis it appears that then are MS acres of arable earn land, l 2 acres of pasture, Si ecru of *Milks, 8 acres dumb% 6 ammo/ albument, and 70 acres ce waste—masking the 766 acme aliuded to. Now, it is well known that in Wilk formes pursue their operations in this way—they give asofbarth to wheat. one-liurth to barley, one-fourth to fallow, and the remaining mane-fourth to clover and beana. On the average the take dirtiest is 30 bushels per acre of four roods, subject to the deduc tion of two bushea for seed and two for tail, leaving of best wheat for market 26 bushels. With regard to barley, 40 biokela may be consi dered the average product for the same extent of land, deducting two aid a half for seed and one and a half for tail, snaking 36 bushels dear tor the market. On those two commodities alone do the farmers of this plass depend for suteistenee, as the clover and beans are, to a M.szlalaree=edee by the working ti tO r n s", per be ., acre attache d it'aken th e ir; sod Ile. pm acre for after grass la about the nua the farmers naive. MU.. whin MI the his f..t as FliSaßer.) if the itoble lint et the heed el t 6. ea maim. weal& serif to roesidee the owe d the egri milord moieties, r reemeider k. prune pokey, tad to beam by that gesitidere, white he had wettest amply weed by ler a kes wied, a kir share et meammas ear m.• httere—der they Niel so more Sea their Irk seemed ad, Beelmitim ibi aU dames If the us g ritie woad may de this. mad held eat to them seem Imp re the team am might be weal to Heaves with a down sew mime sad &Pa kende tor the bkwileg_ of that Preetiesee which bad ee km. watched over them stare over whisk the aside lad preehliA. (Heir Wm) _ The sarotioa havingbeem mnsimied emi pat from the chair, Mr. A. HASTII NM he had met beard any good rea son addaeed by the hem. sews why the helms should re ',Ave itesif late anamielee as prepsesd. Oa the eontrary, he had simply bend this which hail been gates the round of almost .11 the newspapers In the reastry—broad asser tions, wittiest may wrest data on which to found these. He quite agreed in the slateansat that corn was Row, and for the lest sin swathe had been, at a very low price, bat that pries was not lower than had prevailed for much longer periods under the old protection laws. (Hoar, hear.) Therefore, until the price of corn had been for a considerable time longer at a lower pries than ever it was under protection, there wee no ground what ever for going into say inquiry on the subject. Whenever It happened that for three conseestive years the prices of corn had been lower than under the old law, and that parties complained of that low price, and showed they had been ruined by it, he should be perfectly willing to go into a committee of icqedry. (Laughter from the protec tionists.) Looking at the prime of urn which had ruled for the last half century, both at home and in those countries whence the largest importation wee naturally looked for, including the countries on the shores of the Baltic and America, he wee quite satisfied, upon so average of years, that it woe impossible for those countries to compete with the English farmer by sending wheat has at a lower pries than 465. per quarter. He spoke advieedly, and, after examining into the quantities se well as the paces of the corn produced by those countries. The ho- nourable member said the burdens on farmers bad in creased in a much greater proportion than thou on other classes; he also add that they had to compete with untaxed growers of can. From this he entirely dissented. It so happened, at the present moment, that the largest supplies in competition with the Hagfish growers were from France; and France was a country taxel as heavily as Hogland ; the there rose to above 66 millions sterling. The large importations from France had arisen from this cause : last year, the crop was abundant both to France and England,— in the former beyond all previous history; owing to the prevailing uncertainty of things in France, and the conse quent distress , every farmer had h.ien anxious to relieve his fans-red, and turn his produce into mosey, so that in the event of another revolu tion, he might be able to keep his dollars in his pocket, end tunes the low price of agricultural produce which were totally unprecedented of late years, and he be lieved almost unknown in the history of France. But these were all temporary sooners. The manufacturers had to contend against similar influences, but they suffered quietly, persevered, and in two or three years recovered from their peef; of the 21rmeter;'simprOsluction As N t ra he f p o rolit ed upo on a ly it * wa il s:l l d bear but a small proportion to the rent, towards which all the agr:culturel products contributed their due proportion. He we. informed that upon all well and duly cultiva'ed farms, this was the general proportion which corn bore to the other agricultural produce, though there were doub.less exceptions to this rale ,• therefore when a law wet pmeed which affected the value of only one-fifth of the produce, it was most unjust to ascribe the distress of farmers to the operation of free trade. (Hear, hear.) He was convinced that at the present time the people were bete( r employed, better fed, and better clad than ever they were. (Hear, hear.) Poor rates and charges upon the land ot all descriptions were len than they had been at any former pa nod ; end how a reduction in the price ot one filth of the produce should work such extensive rain he could not un derstand. Sines the beginning of the present century rent bad risen from 26 millions, in 1601, to 46 millions in 1848 ; the poor rater, which, in 1803 were four millions, upon a rental of 20 millions, were six millions with a rental of 46 millions ; and it was quite certain that the poor were better treated now than at the former period. The county con had been much relieved by paymetre being thrown on the con solidated fund; and he did not think that the increase, Com paring the present period with what were called years ot prosperity, was at all proportionate to the increase of rental and population. On these grounds he felt called en to op pose the motion. Colonel SIBTHORP said the argument of the boa. mem ber amounted to thee, " Wait till you are ruined, and then complain." (Hear.) As to the people being better clothed and fed, he flatly denied it. He would support the motion, because he should be glad to accept ot any relief for the agricultural interest from the present House of Commons. Had the hon. mover recommended a di,solution of parlia ment, he should have approved of it : for he thought them a precious set altogether. (Laughter.) lie had been one of the agricultural deputation who waited on the noble lord; he had told them before going of the courtesy with which they would be received, and that the noble lord would bow them in and bow them out. (Laughter.) The mate the country saw of what was called free trade, the more would they be convinced of the propriety of the warning given by him before it was posed. This motion would at least show who were the real friends of the farmer, and who were but "sheep in wolves' clothing." (Laughter.) He meant " wolves in sheep's clothing." Mr. PLUMPTRE regretted government did not hold out any hope to the agriculturists. It night be very well for those who possessed the comforts of life to tell the agricultural body that they were not enough pinched, and pressed, and tried —that they could bear • great deal more yet ; but such persons knew very little of the existing and growing amount of distress existing amongst large masses of the people. (Hear, hear.) They were told that agriculture would flourish if skill and energy were employed in the cultivation of the land ,• but whilst the present state of things existed,and they were left in so much uncertainty as to the future, it was adding mockery and insult to injury to use language of that kind. ( He hear .) He should be the last person to encourage a disloyal or impatient spirit amongst any clue, but he could not feel surprised that strong expressions were used by those who were suffering from the pressure of die tress. (Hear, hear.) Surely the time was now come for government to consider whether some remedy in the shape of protection ought not to be afforded to the suffering population of this country. But the motto of her Majesty's government seemed to be, " Perish agriculture—flourish Manchester." (Protectionist cheers.) Mr. SLANGY said that he differed from the bulk of the members on either side of the house with regard to this question. He was of opinion that • moderate fixed duty ought to have been imposed on corn, not as a protection to agriculture, but as an equivalent for the exclusive hardens which he believed were borne by the land. He knew that some of his hoa, friends near him denied that the land was subject to any exclusive burdens. If that were proved to he so, then he would not advocate any duty ; but if the contrary were shown, then he would, in justice to the agricultural body, main tain the imposition of a fixed duty equal to the burdens exclusively borne by land. Bat the case was some what different now thst the contest between the two parties had been decided, and that the duty on corn had been alto gether removed. He considered that the system which they had entered upon should be tried, at least, for some time longer. He believed that the increase in the importation of foreign grain was owing to the unparalleled production of last season on the continent which was not likely to recur for some time again, and that the agriculturists of this mum try, by the exercise of that skill and energy in which Englishman were not deficient, might retrieve their posi tion and prosperity. (Hear, hear.) But if the next session of parliament the condition of the agricultural interest was not improved, he should tote for a duty on corn equiva lent to the exclusive burdens borne by the land. In the pre sent instance he would oppose the motion. (Hear ) The Marquis of ORANBY said he was not surprised at the present motion, though it came from an acknow ledged free trader, and from the opposite side of the house, because he always expected that hon. gentlemen when fully convinced that toe tree trade system was not adapted to this country would honourably avow their error. He was not surprised at It because there was a reaction of feeling against the system amongst persons of all classes and professions in the country. (Hear, hear.) The tenantry of the country had unmistakably expressed their opinions in one of the largest meetings ever held in it, and one. and all declared that it was impossible to cultivate the land under the present prices for agricultural produce. But if the cue of the farmers of England was bad that of the same glue in the sister island was still woos—(hear) — and it would have been mash better if the noble lord at the head of the government, instead of lowering the franchise to the level of the distressed condition of the people, had en deavoured to raise the people to the level of the lranchise. (Hear, hear.) Bat the evil was not confined to the tenant farmers. The agricultural labourers came in for their share, and a petition had not long tine* been presented to that house from the parish of Foebrook, in which it was stated that there was a fall of 41. 6d. in their weekly wages. The same thing had been stated in the Morning Chronicle of that day with regard to the distressed needlewomen. The only way of providing a remedy for this state o f thi ngs was by finding employment for them. The noble lord admitted the fact of distress, but he led them to hope that at some distant and imaginary period prices would me ; so that the defence of free trade now set up by the government was that at some future day it would be inoperative. (Hear, hear.) He rested his reliance for the reversal of their pre.ent policy not on the decision of that house, b u t on t h e force of public opinion out of doors. (Hear, hear.) He re garded the admissions of the great agricultural distress which existed made by the noble lord at the head of the govern ment, made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and by a noble lord in another place, IS • ripple that wascaused b y the ' alteration of the wind in the political atmosphere, and he looked upon the present motion as the first protecion wave breaking from the opposite rids. But he ; laced his main ' reliance not on tbo proposition of that night, which he would support, nor on any other proposition thst might be brought forward in that house, but on public opinion cut of doors acting on the different members which composed it. : (Hear, hear.) Mt Oil it was set t& fateration to take up the tin t : B % s addressees malty observations on the ve it was Impassible far him to avoid taking Bade of eal/iteg the atteatioasof the house ,te die iuis 'boy INNS pilled In rshesses to the very meioses Wiese esstidmrtin (Hear, hear.) If it wars possible to eggs, that a pees's, a* a member wt that hosts meld mew these meting sad ask what the gabfest an tler disseisisa was, and he told it was the gra& and inspostant fissetbs of the sees laws, shoot whisk se mach had beset heard asd laid secede that hoses, he (ale B. Hall) thought that isidivideml would be very mach astreo Melted at the cattle iseeeeet manifested within these was ea the subjesti ad polskir, if that same 'hanger wham la was tier" Y'r preeent—should he asked es width side the members sat, he might, drawing his own oessinsioss, reply that they sat on the right of the chair and net sa the left. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) The majority in the hems theeemaing sat on the sight of the chair ; and therefore it might be supposed that tMas who took an bluest in the muster hell come down in large numbers to support the a/ghettoes' interest, then more or Ism involved in the motion before them, and which emanated from that side of the house also. (Hear, hoar.) But Ist them go farther. He (Sir B. Hall) Ind sat there during the whole of the debate, sad observed that daring the addresses of this three last spinals's— partkululy that of the noble marquis who »pre sented to a great extent the agricultural interest in the midlead counties—the largest number at the apposition side of the house amounted to 27, and flactuated between that and 17. (Hear, ham.) Therefore was it not a per fect farce for these 11:3.. gentlemen daring the recess to go amongst their c ,astituents, stimulating them to opposition, and styling themselves " the farmer.' friends," yet, when the question came to be decided within the walls of parlia ment, out of • body of between 200 and 300 prottc•imest munben who affected to advocate the interests of their do laded followers—(hear, bear)—not more than from 17 to 27 boo. gentlemen were found is their places. (Hear, hut.) If the members of the Manchester sebool had adopted that course out of the house, and had not the moral coursgo to bring forward their pre positions and take the 'emu of parliameat on them ; they (the protectionist membes) would have lavished their cen sure on them, and dens:tied of them why they went abroad stimulating the minds of the public, making them dissatis fled, and yet, though affecting to be the friends of the people, fearing to brute the question at issue before the sense of jarliament. (Hear, hear.) The noble marquis who had ust addressed the house expressed his gratification at the tact that the first political wave broke from the ministerial side of the house. Well, the farmers out of door, had lots been looking for the bursting of a wave from the opposite side but could never succeed in seeing men a ripple, ro that they should hold themselves indebted Wan hon. member on the ministerial side for affording an opp:rtunity to bring forward the question. (Hear, hear.) He would not then eater into the question beyond saline that they would Dave an opportunity of testing the votes of bon. gentlemen oppo site: and he hoped when these gentlemen would tell thtir constituents in future that they were prepared to brine for ward this great and important question they would do so in reality, and not leave to an hon. member on the minis terial beaches the performance of so important a duty. (Hear, hear.; Mr. MILES mid the boa. baronet who had just set down assumed much to himself, and pleased to draw a comparison between hon. members who advocated protection and those who supported a repeal of the legisheiee union. Now, he wished to know why the hon. baronet had n.tver attack; d the repeal question until after the originator of that goes . don had been removed from the !louse of Comasons ? (" Hear, hear," from the opp jition benches.) No, the hon. baronet pre.erred waiting until the originator of that ques tion had succumbed to disease and ceased to ho a mem, r of that house; and then it was that he stepped in and der.ded hon. members for Ireland for not having brought forward the question. (Hear, hear.) The question of the cern laws was &egged in 1846, since when a new parisment had been retorted in favour, he would admit, of tree trade principles. (" Hear, hear," from the ministsrial benches.) There was no doubt that the decision of the country was in favour of free trade—(hear, hear)—hut they should wait for a re action, and it was quickly coming. (" Oh, ob," and " hear, heat.") Let them look at the north of Scotland, and they would fled the hthlands were the most suffering of all suffering countries. The time was not distant when the watchword would be, " Bide your time, and trait in us" —(laughter)—and ho doubted net that in the next parlia ment they would own. forward with an amended conetitimery as well as a large majority is that house to readjust the disorganised end disrupted interests of the country. (Hear.) Mr. MITCHELL soil the best proof that could be given of the well working of lha corn-law repeal was tte bens fit that the operative classes experienced by the change. (Hear, hear.) Toe consumption of bread stuffs had increased on, - third ; and it wages fell in proportion to the petite of food, who consumed the increase ? (Hear, hear.) Tuat he took to be the state of the tees. By the repeal of the corn !ewe they had caabled the working people to consume one• third more bread than heretofore, and so tar tie working clames were permanently henented. (Hear, hear ) lie proceeded to argue that 41s. under present cirtutustinces was a natural and remunerative price fur wheat; and alluded to some recent statements of the import rates of Pomeranian corn, pu'elalted by Mr. Senders, for the purpose of explain ing t hat the wheat it, question was Silesian pr .lure of infe rior quality, which could not commend the price et British grown wheat of first qualities. Mr. SANDAItS vindicated the quality of hi: imported wheat, which he said that Mr. Mitchell had attacked in ignorance. He bad a number of statistical returns to sub stantiate his assertions respecting the rates at which corn could be imported, ant the imoossihilite of the English farmer competing with the foreigner. With respect to the motion, he confessed that he was iasome diflicul.y, not think ing it wise to bring it forward at that moment, or that tree trade had not ye: t.ad a Lir trial. The elle:of free trade in corn, however, he endeavoured to show, would mike us de pendent in a deficient harvest np•n European countries, Bich was a subject of serious c onsideration. Mr. WILSON, some of whose previous statements had been controverted by Mr. Sanders, replied in vindication of his statistical accuracy. Contenlag that whatever distress now existed was exceptional, and that the low range of ps ices could not be permanent, he adduced the marked quotations of various parts of the world, to show that wheat had ad vanced in the chief parts of southern Europe from Is. to 2s. 6d. per quarter during the past fortnight, and that corn had sold in Berkshire within the last few da;s at 4 s. per quarter. Allowing that distress was weigeing upon the middle classes, without any special distinction of the agricul turists, he denied that the lower classes were suffering more than usual, and proved his position by the fact that, since 1818, when wheat was 100.. the quarter, the number of in door paupers receiving relief in England had decreased from 824,000 to 748,000. Much of the distress among the middle classes he attributed to the railways. Speculation had ruined many; the numbers employed upon the works h:d declined from 200,000 to 45,000; and 51 millions of money had been expended during the last two years, which was returning at this m smelt but a very slight per tentage of profit. Mr. Wilson then entered into calculations to refute the doctrine promulgated by Mr. O. B. rkeLy, that the British farmers would be " undermined " by American competition; assert ing that cora sold higher in Liverpool than New Orleans, at the very time ho was speaking, and that the last cargoes brought from the west had been imported at a considerable toes. The averages of two years past showed that the home producers had no reason to despair. Mr. HERRIES considered the admission made by gen tlemen favourable to free trade most valuable and most instructive. One (Mr. A. Hastie) admitted that, should the ptices under the new experiment range lower during three consecutive years than under the old protective system, the experiment would have failed. Another (Mr. Slane') ad mitted that a filed duty, sufficient to place the British farmer on an equality with the foreigner, would be a fair arrangement, and that he did not expect the present experiment would be productive of beneficial results to the country. Several others admitted that prices were too low, and expressed their expectation and wish that they would rite again —thus mettle sting the grasses, incon sisteney ; for, according to their economic principles, the lower the price of food the better for the country at I irge. The proposition before the house was to go into committee, to consider the propriety of imposing a duty on th e importa tion of corn—most probably a fixed duty—and to that ono tion he was prepared to consent. Such a measure would have the effect of fixing the price of wheat at about 435. the quarter, and to that proposal he did not think the house ought to give a refusal. That price would barely remunerate, the British farmer, without doing injury to auy other class. The right hon. gentleman demonstrated the necessity of pro tective duties, and iseteneed the polity of Prussia and other nations in preserving their manufactures and pro Puce from unrestricted foreign competition; and he warned the house against giving full sway to these cosmopolitan dogmas which were preached by men belonging to certain closers, who were forgetful that we has all a common country, the honour, the dignity, and the power of which It was our duty to maintain. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he confessed he was exceedingly glad that his hon. and gallant friend had brought forward ;his question, became he believed with the hen. gentleman below him that it was far better that the leaders of a party should state their views in parlia ment rather than that they should go forth as manifestoes in newspapers, for in parliament their assertion could be an. swercd and tested by facts, and he was sure that the public would arrive at a more just appreciation of the truth from discussions is parliament than from mere printed manifestoes. It was true that they bad latterly heard little of the opinions and tactics of the great party op • posits bus that which had appeared is the newspapers ; but, from the motion to-night, and from some of the opinions stated tonight, as well as from the papers, they had at last arrived at something definite as to what was their opinion. Aud the noble lord at tho head of the party on the other aid' had put forth his manifesto, and unfurled the banner of protection. (Loud cheers from the protec tionists.). Yes, he was glad that it was so. (More cheering.) Earlier is the station gentlemen on the other side of the house wore a little bit chary in their expressions. (No no.) It was quite true that his hon. friend the member for, South Lincolnshire spoke et re-eoosidering the legislation to which be attributed some of the present distress ; but the honourable gentleman opposite, the member for Burl ' inghamshire—the great leader of that party—carefully avoided sae iog much about protection in the motion that he brought forward for the transfereaco to the consolidated fund of local taxation. But the depu tation who waited en his noble friend (Lord J. Rumen) scouted, as unworthy of their attention, any such project ; and said that nothing less than a return to protectio u wou ld I answer their purpose. Well , then, they bre w what they (the protectionists) desired: and the right hon. gentletuau told them plainly that what he saw in the motion of tie hon. and gallant membor was, the imposition of a filed duty of ts. a quarter on earn. Now they knew distinctly what it r was they were to go on to-night. It was not a motion to inquire into the causes of the distress in tho agrioultiral districts, but the object with which he supp rted the motion den. tit etaitfif winds e ons., to PrPoll• a fixed__ day b Si. AA Born, though that did not.srp.ai be - tblei view, dee "Meld Acne, et the nob l e lord opposi te, m area lamed tetra end been some discrepancy of view, as weft se of expulsion, from those who supported the hon. and Pliant Stedman. One hon. gentleman rather doubted the polies of the bea. sad gallant gentleman who breaght forward this melon, who appeared in the am biguous dem of • free trader.. The view the hoe. gentleman took of it wee that U Meat no ass appediee to the present Route of emantone, end that it would be fee better to pam pas any proposal on the suhjeet till he had get If new parliament elected by an amended con sents:my. Whin the honourable gentleman wse pre pared to bring forward a new reform bill, or what was hie mode of reforming parliament he lett to him to explain to the hem when he (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) sat dews. But he confessed that he entertained so expectation that from any puliameat, which on the hoe. gentleman's plea, would be Meted would he obtain • reversal of that policy which had been sanctioned by the last end the present House of Commons. He believed that the greatest benefits had been conferred on the country by that policy. (Cheers.) And he did not believe that whatever provision the bon. gentleman might make—he did not be lieve that the great body of the people of this country who had tasted the benefits of cheap tood—he did not believe that the ocentituents of this country would now or two or three years hence return to parliament a body of gentlemen who would reverse that policy. (Cheers.) Now the hen gen tlemen who preceded him had treated this question as an experiment, and he was nee-a little astonished to sae in the address of Lord Stanley, which was called his meni fest°, that he supposed that he (the Chancellor of the Ex chegaer) had ever said a syllatie from which an inference ceull be drawn that it wee as experiment which the might reverse or not. The hon. gentleman the member for Wakefield thought it an experiment which they might re verse ; but he (.he Chancellor of the Exchequer) diaelaimed in the strongest terms having ever used an expression from which the inference could be drawn that it should he treated es an experiment ; and he knew net what his noble frier d meant when he talked of the ripple of the waves. The right hon. gentleman had put very clearly to night, very clearly and consistently with what fill from him self, what was the object of protection. The right hen. gentle man stated that be 1.14 net think even the imposition of an 85. duty would be a great ben, fi: to the agriculturists; ' that it would not materially raise the price of can; and he (the Chancellor of the Er hequer) must lay the agriculturists could hove derived very little comfort (rein his right hon. friend. But his right hon. friend put it In this way, that English manufacturers c produce cheaper than foreign manufacturers, but that English agri culturists could not produce corn as cheap as foreign agricul turists could, and he would impose • protection on English corn, in order to obtain a monopoly of the Regiish market ; that is, he would rates the price of corn to the consuming population. He meant this, that the price of food in this country was to be raised by his protecting law. (lieu, bear.) That wee the object. [llr. Herrin was understood to say "No."] Then be did not know what the right hon. gentleman meant by his definition of protection. Ile called it a protection horn injustice. Ile (the Chencellur of the Exchequer) said it was manifestly unjust nod mani festly impolitic to raise the price of bread to the consuming population; and that was the gr.ur.d on which the present government supported and the preceding government brought in this measure, because they believed it to he essentially just and advantageous to all classes of the community that bread should be as cheap as possible. (Cnecre ) It was not es an experiment that the measure was proposed by the right lien. gentleman (Sir It. Peel), and it waisnot as an experiment that i• was supported by them. It was supported by them en the one plain prin ciple that it was advantageous that the large and increasing populatien of this country should have the m ardcles 01 its food, its meat, and its bread as che ip as the i‘orld could pro duce them. (Cheers.) Now he did not think that it was in the slightest degree inconsistent with their opinion that a cheap price of food wise advantageous to the country, that they should put before the 14946 C reasens for think icg that the present price of corn was lower than it would be permanentiy, or that it wu not to be attributed solely to free trac e He was sun rho el when he beard that the speech of tl.e hon. member far Wskefield was relied oil as containing arguments aea . nit free trade. He would only ,so tl,e house to rememb r that last year there were two motions made in reference to t'iis subject, the latter of which was grounded on a statement that the importation of foreign corn was each as materially to depress the price of corn, and to voodoos much distress amongst the agricultural But the hon. gentlemen the member for Wek•tie.d said the: the importation of last year was not more than suffi cient to supply the deficiency arising from the bad harvest of the previous summer in this couatry, and the failure of the potato crop in Ireland, and in h?s (the Chancellor of the Exchequer's) mind it was terough Ood's mercy, that laws wire passed which saved the country from the distress which must otherwise have arisen from such a deficiency. He would now give them the authority of the Mark fine Erpr as, which stated that wheat was now worth from 4s. to se. per quarter more titan it was one month ago, and that other arti-les of agricultural produce had participated in that incest's. That was the statement of a journal which published • weekly summary of the result of inquiries ; and that was the result of such inquiries. Was that, however, owing to an extraor dinary demand ? No ; the paper added that there had been hith rto little speculation in the usual acceotation of the term. Barley and ors had risen in a similar manner. It had been stated that in all the continental towns from which wheat would be exported to this country, the price of wheat had risen. The same thing was said to be true as regarded the United Stater. The last quotation from New York, how ever, showed that the prices in that country had much re duced, and the price in this country had considerably de creased. The noble lord apposite had told them that there was great dieter's in the country. The expression which he used was that the distress was pressing on eat ry portion of the community, and that there was agriculturist distress in various parts of the country. He (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) did cot stand there to deity that there was distress peevailii.g in the agricultural district.; but he defied the gentlemen o; posits, to bring forward any proof of general distress pressing on all classes of the community. (Cheers.) Who would get up in that house and state that in the manu facturing districts there was distress? Let them test the truth of these matters by facts. The same allegation was made last year, month atter month. Early in the session he to k the opportunity of stating what was the result of the poor law expenditure, and the number of persons relieved at stated times. Re had shown that the expenditure up to the 25th Much, 1849, was less than that up to the same date in the pre ceding year. Tete expenditure during the halt-year ending at Michaelmas last was less than that of the cotresponding had rear in the previous year. He also took the number of per ;lns r l'eved on the Ist of July last, and he found it was len than the number of persons relieved on the Ist of July, ISIS. • Ile would bring it up to the Ist of January, 1850, end he toued that the number of preens relieved on that day was less than on the let January, 1849. (Cheere.) And when they came to the abie-bodied persons, who would be supposed to be thrown out et employment by agricultural distress, they would find that there were much fewer receiving relief in this year than in the preced ing year. (Hear, hear.) Bat as his hon. friend had stated, the noble lord was not satisfied with that return, end he moved for one up to the latest period, the middle of February. And what was the result? Why that there was a considerable diminution in the number of persons receiving relief. The noble lord had stated that there was an increase in the distress in the midland counties. New, he would take the last return which had been moved for by the Marquis of Salisbury in the other house, and would confine himself to the counties with which the noble lord was most intimately connected, namely, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, and Radnorshire. In the second week of February, 1849 , the number of persons receiving relief amounted to 18,731. In the same week this year it amounted to 15,700. In Northamptonshire in the second week of February, 1849, the number reeeiv log relief amounted to 13,855 ; in the same week this year it amounted to 8,531). A similar diminution took place in R ednor. Taking these three counties:in which the noble lord stated that there existed an increased degree of agricultural distress ' they would see that the returns showed a diminu tion, and not an increase. Ile would not trouble the house with other counties at this moment. [An Hon. blember— Clo on, go on."] Well, then, be would take the county of the hon. member who had interrupted him— the county of Suffolk. lie would compere the number of persons receiving relief in that county in the second week of February, 1849, with those receiving relief in the same week is 1850. In the former week they amounted to 30,329, in the latter to a little over 29,000. He was ready to meet any other gentleman with reference to any county. But the noble lord said that sgricultaral dis tress increased not in England but in the sister island to • still greater extent. To support that statement he read ex tracts from correspondence which appeared in some of the naming papers. The returns from Ireland were made up to a much more recent period than they were in this country, and the last return from that country was up to the middle of April. In the week ending the 4th of April, 1849, the number of those receiving relief amounted to 816,849; in the corresponding we ek this year it amounted to • little more than 338,000, making a diminution of more than 476,900. Comparing the week ending the 13th of April in this year with the immediately preceding year, they would find a diminution of the number of those receiv ing relief amountina to upwards of 6,000. It was easy to make general assertions that would lead to the impression that general distress prevailed. It was desirable that the truth of such assertions should be sated by facts. (Hear.) These assertions should be met not by general answers, but by proved facts. He thought that he had shown that in the counties selected by the noble lord, and in the sister king dom, the only two Instances which he had produced of in • creased agricultural distress, his statements were not borne out by the facts. (Cheers.) When such statements as these were made, they should be met. It was desirable that they should net meet them by counter assertions, but by facts which were undisputed and indisputable. When h is hon. friend (Mr. Wilson) spoke on a similar subject, he brought forward what was a most convincing proof on the matter, namely, the state of crime. He said that there was a considerable diminution in the amount of commitments for trial at the Epiphany sessions. At the next gaol delivery, at the Lent Assizes, the numbers were—in 1849, 2,805; In 1860, 2,558 ; showing • decrease of 247, or 0 8 per cent. At the Easter Sessions, the numbers were-1849, 2,334 ; 1850, 2,007 ; being a diminution of 327. or 14 percent. (lieu, hear.) Surely that was a most satisfactory statement. It was notorious that • diminution of crime was • considerable proof of imerovi meet in the condition of the people; and whether they looked at the number of persons actually receiving relief, or the numbers tempted to crime by want, there was a very considerable diminution in both this year as compared with the last— that wart during the period when these exceptional low prices had prevailed. (Rear, hear.) To a certain extent the revenue wee a fair test of the well-Joins of the country Comparing the revenue of the year sidi ng A pr i l, 1850 wits that of the preceding year, he found a sight In the customs' duties, excluding corn, b u t th at was gimr : owing to the estraordiaary import of f ore i gn 'spar jg (: preceding year. In all the other braechee o f revenue Wa re was as Lao/ease. That which was the great i ndex of re comforts of the people, the melee, had ww we ." 4 18,032,0001 to 14,026,0001. There was also an incresU-4 the toles, and in the inecene•tax; sad he could not ly e " give a better proof of the genual welhdoing of th e ( 4 A th wu n an d suaA h th e e w tsim i eun wo till d i e more ; . n medtho t tha h u i r s th ap e e t: :y uan t th t o dy :s lri a s i az t b i e l. la tihl a i th e:lB4 ,l ls ta y o . ki adw soou lg et s os t ri tur f r e iefen T ra ga: ' ,ol l 4( ; :s. since the ..h of April last, the same improved app except taxes the improvement in the last mouth correrpe e e g g with that of the preceding year. (Hear.) Al • test of ear ployment, he would compare the exports of the hest ter w mo t n h ths e a i, r i s e t ac tb h o roo fth 12,822.000 k ;in 1860, 14,050,0001. (Hear, hear.) „: were these exports produced By the lab our, by thee. ployanut of tee people. (Hear, hear., They me e t bun earning wire ; it was known that they had bee t wt r, paid ; and with good wages they had hal the additioaal id. vantage ;rothes hoped s ch e it would iw ( tho C u h lt e dh e a n bt . e ) a slio interest,rl would for dr com f ort 4) y eb ee uto: tit arts one article of those exports conneced with the agrietuteral gentlemannected ilnterest meet happy to afford them comfort in every way in whatue. was able. (Hear, hear) Tho reports ot te a first three months of each year had been-18.19, 57.; 1849, 2,080,0001 Ni. (more than double) ; 2,182,00011 w. (Hear, hear.) That woe an indiesti eg ' 01 en improved demand for agricultural I reelete • there was also an improved demand fir ran ar4 stock. The price of rock had been kept d own by s e ~,. eaudt r considerable bsheere d i n ; a d d e at e th i a t he ; lyt w hi u h e° r i leurr i ncrease 1 up o n et eta 4 ba i creued production of steck this country. Too ice.rts of the Newcastle brought to marketrylumm usk et k k h wholeweek, far wu the ve of foreign cettlo and sheep had been steadily diteersh.-e, (Hear, hear,) He rejoiced that they had at last mice t., • brute point at issue. Lord Stanley had charavensed :he policy that had been pursued as mistaken end insane ; u where his words—(cheers from the pr ••ectiorime)— en : t: • seemed to be adopted by hon. gen•lenien mewed cheers.) He took Pius with them upset Wet; icy e• lieved that policy to have ben both wise and just, te, t: a( policy the governmeat was prepared to send er la I. (Loud cheers ) He believed that, so far free, r•-u,• z the seeds ot dissension between two elessie policy was etetntielly necessary for binding tesete., a. ; classes of the community—(Hex-, hear)—and he that by the adoption of that policy peace hal been fee :•) reserved. (Loud cheers.) He die not mind .be linguae, that was used in public meetings—(heir, he.; - be WWI not afraid of gentlemen mounting *.htir here. riding into the towns. (Low: cheer, and laughter., it e,,, w:ll known that gentlemen got a little bested at ee a u of that baud, and talked themselves up to a fever eut (Laughter.) He did not arum much importacee t e„ WWI said on each ocrnsions, though he did n e t thi n k very wise language to use. (lieu, hear.) Sat he did here that the policy which had been pursued woe ~ for the miliatenanee of good feeling and traree.a.lre, for binding together all chases of society, and teat policy contributed ball so much to the per.nan. nt tea. of those institution, which they were ad aaa,,a, t old. ( C heers. ) Mr. DISHABLI claimed the indulgetce of the while he endeavoured to place before them a se- re acc.r •e conception of the int-re ions of his party than h sd tee- 2 , by the right hon. gectl men. Ten motion heol come him somewhat unexpectedly; and he believA :net a,. .e general feeling of the house. This was not the hest et., a when such a notice bad appeared on the table of the h... Four years ago, identically the same notice woo n;e;n. object then beM r, if the house revived i-self into corree• to pr.po.e the repeal of the law regulating the of nereign corn. lie needed not to fernier' the 1: aue lenethened debates, the ample discuseion, and the •o struggle which then took piece. On every occasion : • < in the m:nority, which though not non:mot:I, c hers, wz.s ultimately unsuccessful. In the ms' r. icu,el the name of the hon. gentleman who 1. •: posed this motion. (Hear, bear.) A whiz teee.• • member for a county, a member of an ancient whit :se a supporter of a repeal of the core laws. one of the • triumphant majority, after less than e ter rears felt it his duty to move that the house sheull form •• into committee, as was prepoued four years ago, but ee.•:. - object very different, and for a purpose quite cu : • (Idear, hear) When a county member, wao voted : : repeal of the corn laws, Lad made this motion, and w... had _been seconded by a member I.:r an Irish boroug liberal member,—both on the ministerial if le of the hem all that he could recognise in this mortmeat was that it no incipient effort of repentant fruetraders. (Hear, t Not content with repeating his speech of the first nie.. the session, the Chsaoellor of the Exchequer had al.. treated the spoeeh which the hon. member for fit - . •: (Mr. Wilson) mai' on the second night of the ressi,e be had entered into considerable details to show :r working classes VIM not at that women , • ing. But there might be great distress in tr try without the working eltes,s suffering. would deny that the farmers of England, the treNs•. derable p ,rtion of the middle classes of society, were • . ing. But the hon. member for Westbury had tree. mitted that there was very severe distress am - re middle classes, not merely of the agricultural he :e those in towns lake Manchester and Liverpool. ally in the provinces of the north. It seemed •e e • moots in railways bad routed the north of Encla would remind the house that the expeedituro on tt . - ways bad formed the speculative data on which 1.. were repealed which had consummated the ruin agricultural interest. (Hear, hear 1 I' it were ait that pnrtinn of 'he middle classes connected with err.: had incurred a loss quite unprecedented, but tor uhe . incurred by those ot the roil Ile elegies rot connect , : agriculture, what must have been the effect of th:. - cedented and almost hopeless distress nmengst the employers of labour, upon the labouring classes t:. • • selves, whose habi't of forathouirlat and endurance suer honour not only to themselves but to the country 1 (H. - This was no: a motion of which, it he neat been • suited upon it, he should have teem/men led the ierre, tion, and he would tell the houses very fairly why not. he had thought that such a motion ought t. been made, he should either have moved it lamself. er - nutted it to some person more competent on his objection to the motion was that it was of a parti a l char that it was lusting them to take into cOresia,t3;... . interests of one class only. However just r. • be the claims of that class, he would rate.: haul been called upon at toe right time J • into consideration the state of every rises is too c than that they should lave been asked interentieny . • fre and legislate for the advantage of one . We 'a.' • • a great deal of what was pupular.y coiled protic.; yet the right hon. gentleman who had just a house, assuming that they meant by the word •• i• • what in fact they did not mesa, had delivered eucru.: • . violent inv. vile against a phan'om cf his own creee•-• . would tell the house what the protectionists mean: • r .7 • tection. He looked upon it as e fact that the bees 1816 was the foundation a new cnnmer..... te • - in this c_untry. lie knew it was in debates in that house on these ec:e t 0..: • jects, to take the legislation of MO as the a nn e. • . the legislation that was commenced in 1842, tut e•• .• •'• the twoschemes features ot the most con - redicterr ie.. site character. In the legislation of 1a42 f e wise effort to expand the commercial relations ot ....• try upon scientific principles o: interchance, .5) • • labour of thin country should not be brought int. , a s' • • false position with the labour of another, and et the 5 , 7 • went thou measures were brought forward the fret: .• of which was that the commercial interchange w;a •:• tries should be balanced by eountevatling due. , were made in perfect unison with that who •: induce foreign nations to enter into commerci a l tr That fair policy insisted that while we were If : • • our ports to all the world, we were resolved that tin ..Ja should not come in and enjoy our market unless rd. tea • • was equally open to us. Now all these Flute: se. tirely discarded in the measures welch he he:i..cr it' • been fatal and insane measures—sere entirely . • in the legislation of 1816. We commenced then- a.•:• • allowing free import into this country from • which met us with hostile wide, and its • we then took a step most injurious to • e rights and interests of labour in thus ••• that was to say, the English producer. He dwelt u, topic because it was essentially connected with 1.. u. te • Lion about to be made in committee to say that rho - - producer did not give his production for Lieu, • • • ti ins, but only paid amount of duty then e 1.. ., • article of production, in addition to what he :.s' He said that to tax a community for the tone::: en • • was not protection—that was plunder. tidal' ' li" ••• ' them to protect the native industry of this countrY• t' • tect the right and interests of labour in the not , allowing free imports from countries which art.: ••• • countervailing duties ; and in the second piece, s• • • to all agricultural produce, he said you Mel a • ....• t. • an additioael countervailing duty, or take she no: was expended as much for their interest as la tine •••I • turista. That was his view of protection : end Sera •ae • founded in a spirit of justice—because he believed u: .• supported by scientific argument—because he P. • heard this position strictly refuted—bec mete mercisl treaties fouudid on such prise; very much increase the prosperity of and terminate all the missy which was pm lee • lodged by every body, which would tenant' its the position of the middle classes, he was an adv.. ate :• principle, and protective policy, found"' oar h., • • • would, ere long, he believed, he the policy uceieuee •.• • this house. (Hear , hear.) He thought it hie lue••••• • gentlemen with whom he was to act, to melse'• , n ..' became he had been told that they were the ••• • s of • system which had no resemblance to tea on which they were prepared to art. If the t• which he had laid down, vie., that no et.ee send its importer here who would not receive ours, •,, there would be an increase of the revenue by cogent. • • 'mane might be a question as to the d. gree w u : , foreigner might pay a portion of costa duty . • not thick there was any body of a temperate order • . . who had given any consideration to thus teepee eu ' maintain that the tureigner psel no poteo duty. lie did not think that under elth .eo stances the foreigner would not eont et tee . . portion to the treasury cf this country. " tion did the foreigner contribute of that part oft ' received by inland taxation ? That was the r. as a, "" lamented Lord George llentinck laid it down 1 . •'' ciplo of policy, that in all attempts to relieve o gr. ua ' •• the community, to increase the means of employment. h • peskiss t They in east at hes. Wlliber for the West Riding wises he tat his foot as 1 that • - Used tax weld net be tolerated. the costleast. (Cheers hen the proleagesieb.) They rule hem. seesber,lN the West : • g knew very well that the free Inds iseseares would set • sirens misdeed untie . Now.l . * c at •il to the ... ri w ty4SC,ipt awls out whisk they still in ii„,....,P .._,....,„ .i 6 the seessity el , • y the 'f l 77a - i bey' geese se 1 (II ' Revise . I it of . Ive,p 4 • bole his ahrli d ly e jlewed ' belies She • or, -, hick •d• ,I. he Ire% his 11/ .. .. one geed. I thirty-sia . , ' therallitit Waste of 1 • r eir:welle . . he ini tilEl e il i rzld If they said MI lee right Se lat- *ow *SS globe& ewe le that aeon of aea the food • the pegie, why all eamerdeff peeteedia to settee Whitey, t who ha o tho hod of dr soak se Use 414 fa plamelfineeted_ll, eser.-Ilry.weie,b,ll.le.!phold. 131 ieres 01 iheet, at 26 boatels to the aere, at 7s. per Whet, It will give 13 pee bol ewes tertley, at 36 bushels to the we, at 1e ld 131 awes ot clover and beams 913 4 0 nil. GO 0 0 375 0 0 ISt sem at (Allow, 30 atm ta NMI. HS atm at pointy, at 1 tae par ate% at aaa. Altar-pram off &Po, at Ili. per a5e...... In baobab tail ?bast, at !e. 91 15 0 --........-....-....- 78 12 0 ....... 29 8 0 tatisi,at Ss. — Iflikth glue an income o/....... £1,0611 1 0 , TO this village. I uxy mutual I the same of the village is Bardall, la the union of &trefoil. Mit ! Sent cl 722 mak et 26e. per eue, glees the expenditure £938 11 0 Ilthe ... ». lO4 0 0 Traionneesllll4 et la. par ewe ................—........ 141 8 0 Rates, at 30 per we • 141 8 0 Labour —3O men, at 10a per yolk sash ---....:—.. 710 0 0 laterite epos 4,0,04. at I per aut. --.........--.. U 0 0 0 Living for te tames, Ns. per an ......._»«..._..... 861 0 0 £2,632 8 0 From whiek deduct ..... 2,266 1 0 Balance again. 4 farmer We have further evidence of how the 6=lo of Suffolk la suffering from the effects of the IS* bill. Is ese asian, that of Borman and Claydon, Unharness at pauperism is snmeising. Ore small parish alone, newton, has ea mdrr to pay Into the kinds of the treasurer for the two oast mart" I am Warmed. a OM of 901. qoartere oaly, ,• the first mofuty io less hors year pled tie Mk of Nay, the second to July next. For the poet hail-, or two 3a Tile shows es amen aso ines Um N per tent. For the wh id. ole ▪ eamistlas of itt paddles, the ammo required for the next two k armething like 5 5 11151. The last two quarters brought b eel y 3.9361.. thereby exhibiting en hareem of about CI per cent. At this period of kat year there wore ally 967 persons inmates of the union ; on tie 17th or lath of April lest there were 333, with no lens than 50 applications for relief by able-bodied pauper.. The hon. member, having referred to two letters he had receival from Gloucestershire, said that, without troubling the house with more statistical information, he would now approach the motion of which he had given notice. Ho said, that taking into c.nsidoration all that they had heard, all that was known out of doors of the situation of the interest, the cause of which he was endeavouring humbly to advocate, he said to the govern. ment it was time fir this dangerou experimea to be put an end to. Hs said it was time foe them to draw a line uto the limit of the distress which they were now ptomains ea the country. If they could not economise, if they could not re duce the burdens on land to such an extent as to enable the home farmers to compete with toe farmers who had taxation to the same extent, and who did not pay so much for his labour, he called on them to give to native in dustry softest protection. he asked it for a com munity who had always shows themselves most pa tient is enduring burdens. Ho asked it for a community who had bees ever ready to enrol themselves into a mutt talked biros on which the owners of mills end factories had been too ready to call, when those around them had been inathordinate. He said, that if they could not economise their expenditure, say so at once and do not persist in the worst of all states of mind, that of not confessing an error when an error it most indubitably was. Do not con tinue a course which had proved to he to the detriment of the most important interest in the state. He baited them not to deceive themselves in the hope that the &citation which was now going on is the country was about to be put an end to; he salted them not to deceive theme Ives with the vain hope that any good could In any degree arise from what would take place next year. He believed they would be foroed to try this hybrid measure for a; length of time, because he behoved that government adopted unconstitutional marine to force majorities in that house. They were not left to vote according to their ecrisciences ; they had a public letter from the hon. member for Westminster that with regard to the African slave trade they forced him to vote against his conscience. For himself he would net vote spinet his conseienee ; he would rather resign his seat to morrow. He said it was time that some measures should be taken to reform the house itself, if members were t 3 he coerced to vote against their consciences. ' The industry of England wee no longer protected; the fo reigner alone bad cause to rejoice. And the foreigners knew I they had cause to do so when they so filed and lauded the THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MAY 15, 1850. ai 1 1 1 tr di JIM PI MS 11111 kit ef ONE 1/0