The Express. — London, England, 1850-12-06 00:00:00

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It is not consistent with the sigh's of man or the Eng:ish constitution that the lord-lieutenant of • county or his nominees, the justices, should have the power to levy taxes on the inhabitants, and squander wuat they levy, to the tune of a million and a half int- annum, and that the tax-payers should not have some voice in their nominrion, or some control over their ac's. There is no reason in the world why we have not long ago done for them rural ratepayers what we have done for the borough ratepayers, and repealed all the mischievous Louses, whether clothed in forms of law or not, by which the former are to this hour obstructed from the enjoy ment of that undoubted birthright of every English- Man—taxation by representation. The counties, hun dreds, and townships, are municipalities more ancient than the cities and b Roughs of the Municipal Corpo rations Act, and much more in need of reformation. This is the substance of Lord JoHe Ruserxes con cets,ons to the earnest appeal of the deputation from the countita which waited upon him last Wednesde y. But then, eels his lordship, the government cannot be expected to do anything in the matter until there is a general "movement" out of doors; that is to say, legit discontent has ripened into agitation, or, per- haps, into something Worms. It may be true that the chief seat of the " move ment," as Lord ionic Russet'. terms it, is the grea and important county of Lancaster. But it is equally true, as stated by the Yorkshire del , gate s, that their county—sorely not less great, nor less important— has adhered to the movement which began in Lan osshire, and is even improving on its mrdel. For it appears that, whilst Lancashire is not altogether din to renew the experiment of • compromise, l ii rt e xi e offes once more to the country justices the rejected bill of last session, Yorkshire is lees trac table. Many of the local newspapers say they are opposed to Mr. MILNER GIBSON'S Bill, as not going far enough, and are advocating a much more sweeping change in the pm sent system. The same spirit, as we infer from the names of some of the delegates from other counties, is spreading every where. Lord Duneeer STUART. in the name of the Metropolitan county ratepayers, threatens the Paa- MIER with a very pretty " movement " in Surrey and Middlesex, now that the canoe of the ministerial he sitation is at length understood. Altogether we see no reason to despair of a very general and a very energetic resporse, befure parliament meets, to Lord lonic Resartee conjuration. But if the people take op this cause of theirs in hearty earn's*, is it credible that they will now content themselves with that mere instalment of justice which their faintly supported advocates in the last session were ready to accept? le it worth while to agitate largely fur a county board, to be composed, one half of justices of the peace, and the other half of members elected by the poor law guardian., and con taining tot ate representative of the ratepaying peopl? If it be not proposed to comprehend the boroughs of Ragland in this scheme of local taxation, why do the advocates of self-imposed taxation insist so etrenuon.ly upon this particular scheme, as being the only one suited to carry out their purpose in the counties ? For our part, we have repeatedly expressed our opinion that the simpler and more constitutional plan would be to ignore the justices of the piece altogether in their ridiculous pretensions to the sole keeping of the public purse, and to apply to the management of county finance the known and used principles and details of borough-rate administration. This neces sarily involves the separation of magisterial and minis terial functions, the former to be exercised by the majistratee, the latter by a county board composed of the representatives of the people, all elected by the ratepayers in each hundred. To this body we would not only made the levy and administration of the rates now levied and administered by the justices, bat also all municipal functions whatsoever,—now subsisting or hereafter to be created,—under which last head we may particularly men tion all such as are requisite to that broad and national system of education which, sooner or later, the people will wring from parliament. As for the magisterial functions, we continue to think that they will be more usefully, and also more satis factorily, exercised, when vested in persons ng the con fi dence of their fellow-shiremen. 7i:re st :us when the conservators of the peace were elected by the shire. That was put an end to by the statute of EDWARD 111.; but it was a good custom, and it may be resumed by the same legislative power which de str3yed it. 'the magistrates in boronehs and cities are the aldermen of those municipalities. They are chosen by the ratepayers : why not the magistrates of the counties also? It will be hard indeed for any man, though he be Sir JOIIN PARINOTON himself, to say why not. In other words, we prefer very much the bill pre anted by Mr. HURL in 1836, for England, or that presented in the same year by Sir RICRUID M us- CRAVE for Ireland, to the bill of Mr. MILNER GIB SON ; and eo, we think, does the right honourable gentleman himself. His bill was brought forward avow edly u a compromise. But the compromise, when (dieted, was related, under circumstances which leave it more than doubtful whether a renewal of the experi ment will now bs more hopeful of success than a bold and unconditional demand of Mr. Hors's measure, well supported out of doors, is like to be. It is worthy of note, that when, on the 21st of Jane, 1838, Mr. Hume obtained leave to bring in his bill " to separate the financial from the judicial affairs of the counties in England and Wales, and to autho rise the rateplyers in counties to choose repro untatives to form a county-board for the eressemmak levying, and administration of the county rates and financial 'Uri of counties in England and Wales,' the late Sir EARDLEY Witmor, then at the, head of the party of justices of the peace in parlia ment was the only speaker, and had not a word to say against it. Oe the contrary, if we may believe the " Mirror of Parliament" for that year (voL p. 1992), the magisterial mind, represented by the tory baronet, " conceived that Mr. HMIs did not go jar enough, and wished him to carry his reform a step further, and, as he had adopted the Municipal Commissioners' report as a guide for the financial arrugement, to adopt it likewise as a guide in other respects; and instead of having a body of justices and chairman to preside in court for the trial of offenders, to propose a county recorder appointed and paid by the crown, who should be a barrister of not less than seven years' standing, acd who should sit not only at the Quarter Sendoes, but at the carious sessions of the county." Nair was this the ut most extent of tory coacession in the year of grace 1836: for we find Sir PAROLEE Wihmor winding up thus :—" To the election of justices, ss . propoeed by the honourable member, I ire no *fawn, but that they are not required to have any qualification." It is true that the personal wishes of the them reigning sovereign were known to be in favour of the change as proposed by Mr. Hume, and that the tense were doiog their utmost at that time to regain the estranged affection of WILLIAM the FOURTH. Still we cannot think that seen the conservatives of the present day are so entirely lost to all' sense of the pat honours of their party, as to recede altogether from the terms they offered in 1836 to the crown lad its lieges by the mouth of Sir EMMET Wamat. Was? are the precise legal limits of the doctrine of the QUEEN'S supremacy, as it affects the Roman catholic subjects of her Majesty in their relations to the crown of these realms, is a question of consider able interest at the present moment. This question Mr. MOTET has set himself to answer in a pamphlet just published i• and, without pledging ourselves to en agreement with all his conclusion*, we are bound to uy that, especially when his known theological opinions are taken into account, he has executed his teat with candour, learning, and research. The royal supremacy may be regarded in a three fold light, as temporal, ecclesiastical, and spiritual. When enjoyed to the fall extent, it makes the sove reign supreme, not only over ill onuses, ecclesiastical and civil, within his dominions, but also in all mat ters of , faith doctrine, and church discipline. It is thus that it is understood by HOOKER in the follow- ins passage : Whim Chrhtian kings are maid to have spiritual dominion 6T supremo power in oclesiutical affairs sad canoes, the meaning is, that within their an own precincts d territories they . have suthority and power to p recinct in matters of Childian religion, and that shire is De higher or prestor that ma over-command them where they are platted to act. Power of spiritual dominion therefore is, in canoes social astical, that relies authority which neither say foreign state, nor any part of the body politic at home, wherein ibis same was establlsluod, can lawfull overrule.—Boal. Pol., hoe; rlii., p. 442. Historieslly !speaking, it is quite clear that the Saxon kings of England enjoyed undoubted ecclesias tical, if not also spiritual, supremacy within their realm : many instances of their direct and sometimes violent exertion of authority in matters ecclesiastical are cited by Lord COI; in that famous comment on the act of supremacy—his report of CAWDIMII case. Conclusive evidence of the point (if more were want ing) is to be found io the fact referred to by Mr. MOTET, that the Bishop in those early times sate side by side with the sheriff, to judge eccles'astical exams in the courts of the shire, which were the king's courts. Such was the first stage in the history of the royal supremacy in this country in matters ecclesiastic 1. The second era commenced with that ordinance of the Cuequeror which separated the two jurisdictions, and removed the " Placita Ecclesie" from the shire oourt to a distinct tribunal, over which the Bishop alone we* to preside. With this ordinance began the long conflict of jurisdiction between the bishops of Rome on oce side and tee kings and people of England on the other, which, through many alternations of submission and resistance, continued to harass the land till the final renunciation by HENRY VIII, of the whole doctrine of the papal supremacy. It was during this period that those statutes were pawed, which take their name from a corruption of the first Latin word of the writ which they origi nated, called the writ of "prenioneri The substance of the various acts of prremunire, their pro hibitions and their penalties,_ are given with great clearness by Mr. ANSTEY. Amongst the most im portant of thes3 with reference to the late aggreo stone, are in the act of the 30th of EDWARD lIL (st. 2, c. 1), imposing the penalties of prismunire on all who "impetrate at the court of Rome" "dignitie", offices, hospitals, or church benefices whatsoever ;" and certain statutes of the 25th of HENRY VIII. (c. 21 and 22), imposing like penalties on all who " purchase or procure" at the court of Rome " trans !mime, processes, sentences of excommunication, bulls, instruments, Itc." Peeving by these different enactment', we proceed at once to the celebrated law which inaugurated the reign of the great protestant Queen, and fixed the great protestant doctrine of the royal supre macy. The first thing to be remarked about this Act of Supremacy (1 Elie., cap. 1) is, that as Lord COKE carefully points out in CAWDRY's case, it was intended to be, and, in f.,ct, was an affirmation of the common law. Its title conclusively shows this: it is called in the Statute Book "An Act Restoring to the Crown the Ancient Jurisdiction over the State Ecclesiastical and Cita," It does not fall within the scope of Mr. ARREST'S present purpose to dl more than refer generslly to this act; but in thous days, ' when the first principles cf our protestant constitu ' lion in church and state are so freely called in ques. thy, it may not be amiss to cell attention to the terms of the two famous clauses, by the first of which for, ign authority in matters ecclesiastical is abolished, and by the second, ecclesiastical jurisdiction annexed to the crown. The former clause enacts Tbst so foreign prince, person, prelate, state, or potentate, spiritsal cr temporal, shall at say time after the lest day of this session of parliament, see, enjoy, or ezerclm, any EMMY of power, jurisdiction, superiority, authority, pre retivin.ce, or privilege, spirial or ecelesisatical, within this realm. By the latter clause it is enacted: That such juriedictioes, privileges, superioritise, or per eminences, spiritual or ecclesiaatiesl, as by any spiritual or icalesiesticsl power or authority bath heretofore been, or may lewiulty be, exercised or need for the visi•ation of the *Molise. ice state and peewee. and for reformstioa ' order, and correction of the same, and of all manner of errors, heresies, schism', abuses, offences, untempts, and enormi ties, shall for ever be united and annexed to the crown of these reams. These words give plenary authority to the crown of England not only in at lestuatical, but also in spit it oaf things ; they confer, in fact, a spiritual u well es a temporal and ecclesiastical supremacy. Mr. MOTET states this doctrine with great clearness in the follow• ing passage, and shows how, as far as the spiritual supremacy is concerned, the effect of recent legisla tion has been to exempt Roman catholios and other nonconformists from its influence, while it has left the established church still subject to it: Notwithstanding the endeavours of some recent writers to disprove the Quesat's spiritual supremacy oen the established church of this country, undoubtedly the law ascribes it to her Majesty. Bat over the Roman catholic church , and the other nonconformist denominations crating in this countet , no spiritual supremacy whatsoever belongs to the sovereign. The Toleraton and Relief Acts, pulled at various times since the revolution of 1688, bare secured to every denomination of nonconformists the amplest liberty of conscienc., by re pealing es suspending in their favour the acts of parliament which, having created the royal supremacy over the esta blished church, made ecclesiastical nonconformity an offence against the person of the sovereign. As far, therefore, u the " spiritual headship" of her Majesty in matters of doctrine and discipline is con cerned, there can be no doubt that Roman catholics are net seed upon to acknowledge it ; but with re gard to the ecclesiutioal supremacy, understanding thereby the QuEves authority in ecclesiastical courts and over ecclesiastical causes, there can be as little doubt, and in fact Mr. ANBTEY freely acknowledges that Roman catbelice are as much bound by it as any other of the lieges. There is nothing to complain of in the Istkivrfar statemeut of the law : I , piess ii ll ie tblled the s e law of Rased intorares not, bet true genies so ponied, sad Use judge to determine, without snaleetaden. It is otherwise with MOM when temporal risks' el Os subjects of this crown ere in eseneversy. The sempeal warts of the Qum have the oils ssinimeno of seal muss, and them who draw them aia id dincmcm am I F of a high contempt and win Hewer spirit the herself, for which heavy pensi on hue Mss enacted statutes, from time to tins passed anasome of the sewn= law. In this mess the Queen lian ban said to pommel, cot indeed an ecoludestisal sane oser, bat a supremacy as ell noses, whether eselosimenal or eM All the seen of the kingdom derive their authority from the mown itself, which bath no superior; the laws by which they are governed en called the Queen'. laws ; and the justice which is them administered is called the Queen's justice. It is true, as the sane authorities show, that these nuns are not all governed by the sane laws and toms of practice. Bat this affords the reason of thsir haviog sash its ewe peculiar jurisdiction, sad of being conlined to that. The laws are not the lese, on that account, the Quo's'. laws, nor the courts which follow the.. the Queen's cures. The only point to notice here is the rejection of the Mem " ecclesiastical enpremacy : " We think it should be retained : it is perfectly intelligible as distio geished from " spiritual sepremacy," and in fact the short statement of the whole law u to Roman satholics is that, though freed from the recognition of the QUEEN'S spiritual supremacy, they are as much as ever bound to uphold her ecclesiastical supremacy. Upon the question, how fez the new discipline pro- mulgated by the Holy See is a violation of the OMEN'S ecclesiastical supremacy, as the law now stands ' Mr. Azarrev writes with brevity and caution. The su bstance of his opinion shortly is, that while no existing law has been infringed by the appointment of archbishop, bishops, and a cardinal, it may be doubted whether the extent of eoclesiutical juriadio- Con conferred by the late Letters Apostolical may net contravene the principles of the Act of Supremacy. • " The Queen's Supremacy enteldered in its /tendon with the Boman Catholic Chunk in England. By Themes Chisholm Annoy, Seq., ILP., Banister-at-Law." Owns and Norton. THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 6, 1850. With regard to the creation of the prelates; we shall limit ourselves to 'the remark, that, notwith standing Mr. AltsraT's ingenious special pleadiag to the contrary, we still think the recently appointed hierarchs fall within the letter of that act of EDWARD prohibits the impetration elf "dignit ies, i s ear s , w offi e ha ceZ e a w nd n eenesees," from the Roman wart; and we are equally confident that all who have bean concerned in 'smog out or procuring" the papal "brief or buil" by which the new bishops have been appointed, though no longer liable to the exact penalties, are still within the prohibition of the 13th of ELIZABETH. With reference to the excess of jurisdiction *meted in the POPE'S late Letters Avesta's], and accepted in the Pastoral of Cardinal WISEMAN, it is needless to say that we not only agree with Mr. Ammer, bet go much further than he perhaps can fairly be expected to do. No plainer denial of the Queen's ecclesiastical (as distinct from her spiritual) supremacy . can well be imagined than is involved in the following pump of the Letters Apostolic/al: Bat In the sawed government of clergy and laity, and in all ether things appertaiolog sate the pastoral office, the erelthishop and bishops of England will henceforward enjoy all the rights and faculties which the other catholic arch bishops and bishops of other nation', according to the Peon= ordinances of the sacred canons and spoo led* mmatitutions, use, and may use, and are waft bound by the obligations which bind the other arolabishope and bishops according to Ca .me 001111011 die alphas of the catholic church. And whatever regulations either in the lustiest system of the Aegliess churches or in the subsequent missionary state may have been in force either by special constitutions or privileges or peculiar col • tome will now henceforth carry no right nor obligation : sad in order that no doubt may remain on this point we, by tke plenitude of oar apostolic authority, repeal and 'brume ell power whatsoever of imposing obligati= or conferring right is those peculiar constitutions and privileges of what ever kind they may be, and in all customs by whomsoever er at whatever mast ancient or immemorial time brough t ‘ in. Bow it will for the future be solely competent the iIiNSINcRop and bishops of England to distinemis what M belong to the execution of the common ecclesiastical Ara, and what, according to the common discipline of the eibusuA, are entnuded to the authority of the bishops. We defy any man to reconcile such assumption with even the most liberal construction of that clause is the act of the let ELIZABETH, which confers upon the sovereign of these realms that ecclesiastical supre macy to which, as Mr. ANSTET admits, Roman catho lic, are by law as much subjects as other lieges; and which in plain terms exacts that no foreign prince, or prelate spiritual or temporal, shall exercise any manner of ecclesiastical jurisdiction, authority er pre eminence in these realms. The claims asserted by the Pore in this passage are claims not to spiritual power, but to ecclesiastical jurisdiction, and as each they are understood by Cardinal WISEMAN ' in that passage of his Pastoral in which he tells his flock that " At present, and till such time as the Holy See shall think fit otherwise to provide, we govern, and shall continue to govern, the counties of Middlesex, Hertford, and Essex, as ordinary thereof, and those of Surrey, Sussex, Rent, Berkshire, and Hampshire, with the islands annexed, as administrator with or dinary jurisdiction." What amount of ecclesiastical supremacy it is that the POPE has failed to assert, and Cardinal Wiseman to accept, within the limits of his jurisdiction. would be an inquiry more curious than profitable. Without endeavouring to solve the problem with minute accu racy, it may, at all events, safely be inferred, that more is asserted sad more is accepted than is at all consistent with any sound and constitutional views of the QuEEN's supremacy in its relations with the Roman catholio church in England. That Mr ANSTZT is of the earns opinion may . fairly be inferred, both front the candour of his admiasions, and the discretion of his silence. In spite of the re serve; almost necessarily imposed by his position, and with certain exceptions already pointed out, we can confidently recommend his pamphlet as containing, on the whole, a compendious and constitutional state ment of the branch of law on which it treats. GERMANY. PORTUGAL. The Peninsular Steam Company's ship Montrose, Capt. Bowen, arrived lust night at Southampton, with dates from Lisbon to December lst. There was no news of importance stirring at the departure of the steamer. The Custom-house receipts for November amount to 160 contoe, or 51 coutos less than in November, 1849. The Cadiz Custom-house revenue had reached that of Lisbon without any movement towards &re duction of the Portuguese tariff. It was expected that the Douro Navigation Commissions at Oporto would give rise to some temporary quarrel between the Por tuguese and Spanish governments. The dispute be tween the Lisbon Bank and the Portuguese cabinet remained in the same state, awaiting the opening of the Cortes. On the Lisbon Exchange bills at three months on London were qu.,ted 541 to 54,1, with limited transactions, owing to the scarcity of money. Portuguese Stock in fair demand—Five per Cents., 491 to 50; Four per Cents., 391 to 401 ; Lisbon Bank notes, 51 to 6 per cent. discount. Commodore Mar tin's squadron entered the Tagus on the 27th ult., and the screw-frigate Encounter was making for Lisbon when the Montrose came out. The new Portuguese governor of Dia, the Baron de Puren, started for Malta ou the 20th of November. No further steps had been taken as regsrds the British claims on Por tage], which were all to be again referred to Lord Palmerston. At Oporto exchange on London wu at 541 to 65. In the wine trade large sales had been made to British houses at advanced pelisse. Brandy also continued to rise. Extensive shipments of wine were in progress to Lindon, and freights were quoted at 40s. Her Majesty's ship Hercules, and American ship, of war Consitution and Lexington were at Gibraltar. The screw-steamer Nile had arrived from Liverpool on the 28th ult., at 1 p.m. SPAIN. MADRID, Nov. 29. The resignation of M. Bravo Mwillo has been accepted. Several former ministers of finance are spoken of as likely to succeed him, among whom M. Bertran de Lis is thought to h►ve the best chance. MADRID. Noy. Three per Cents., 34 9 16; after Bolas, 341 to 916 rub, 341 paper. Four per Cents., 121. Five per Cents., 13 ; after Boles, 121 paper, 121 sash. Cal ms, 7i sash; after Boles, 71 paper. Passim, 3 16-16 paper ; attar Bella, 316 16 amts. Bank of BR Ferdinand, 96. En abases on Landon, 60.35. The Washington steamer, Captain Floyd, arrived at Southampton lut night. She left New York aft the 20th November, three hours before the Africa. She spoke the Niagara on the 21st November. COLLISION ON TES CROYDON AND SOUTH EASTMAN RAILWAT,-- This morals( an accident, by which anent pumas were injured, mad the line of • great many other placed is jeopardy, moaned agar the Lesion bridge Widow of the Condom' Railway. The 8.16 a.m. tram toe Croydon had barely cleared the station, when a spare eagiae sad tender, belonging to the Ikuth- Erten Company, cams up, apparently to take up a Into. Owing to the de city of the fog, the engine -drivers did not pensive *soh other until It was too late to pre vent collision, and the engine of the Croydon train run with greet Imes late the Mader of the South Eastern Com peep. The mocasslon was so great that the tender was broker to pinto, sad • great aamber of the parent who won goiag a Croydes wort toned from their NM and eight or alas wen ma* braised or otherwise injared, bat as liana wen brags, damask it was resound is tke City that tea porno's had bees killed, sad a similar number takes is • wounded mato to Bt. Thomas's Hospital. TM reporter, now making inairime at that institution, learsod that so cm had bon takes there from the railway. Independent of the damage dose to no BottnEastern tender, min lajary was dose to the Croldoa tnis, bat, fortnataly, an to a serious esteat. Had it sot born for the fan of • luggagerna being bstwsett the teach sad carriages of the pamesser Men, than is so dant that • lots of life would have nosed. It is stated that • signal ma ought to have bsea placed some distaste down the Use to amain the driven, its the fog was so thick that so use mild is. aborts • yard or es distant. AOCIDINT ON TEE ChtkAT warm; RAILWAY.— An impost was held postman 'henna at tho Bristol In finitely ma the body of Jobs Gilbert, a lad, IS man of alp, who gun by his death ander the following sualeaekoly cdremostnon It apron that on Wednesday, shortly after the aftarsoon up-tWa from Bristol to Gloucester had lett tho Bristol lades, the Meowed, who yea employed la looking after some coke onus, hapradently attempted to stem the line. He me kaceimal down, ad the train nosed over hies severing • log sad an arm from his body. He was take; to the I airing, bat died within a hour. The jury rotarsod a verdict of " Accidental Math." ADJOURNMENT OF THE PRUSSIAN CHAMBERS. We have received the following telegraphic despatches: BERLIN, Deo. 4. " In the beginning of to-clay'a sitting it was com municated to the Chambers that their sittings were adjourned till the 3rd of January." BERLIN, Dia. 4, AFTERNOON. " A cabinet council was held to-day under the pre sidency of the king. " The address committee, in a sitting held yester day evening, resolved on a new address, in which the disapprobation of the chambers with respect to the Olmutz stipulations will be expressed." Our Berlin correspondent writes as follows : BERLIN, Dec. 3. How sadly have all the expectations of the friends and supporters of Prussia been deceived ! The con ferences at Gimes have terminated in a result highly beneficial to the interests of Austria in Germany, and most grateful to the feelings of the Czar. The high hopes which were held out last Wednesday, of a solution of the crisis, brilliant and eminently honour able for Prussia, have all been deceived. The promises of the Elector to apply for the withdrawal 'of both the Prussian and the Bundestag armies. have been broken, the apparent favour with which the secret negotiations between Frank fort and Vienna were received has turned out trickery, the diplomacy of Prunes has to chronicle another defeat, after having permitted its victory to be trumpeted forth to the world ere the decisive blow had been struck. The debate in the Second Chamber to-day, and the communications which have been made to the committees cf each, plainly show that the conferences at °Mintz will be equally memorable in Prussian history with those which Baron Haugaritz held with Napoleon in the same city, in 1805, and which produced the defeat of Austerlitz. On the present occasion no lives have been sacrificed, bat that which is d to the patriot than life, the honour of his country, ha. been offered up on the altar of Austrian and Russian pretensions. The debate in the Chamber, an account of which will be found below, testifies to the spirit in which the communications made by Herr von Manteuffel were received, a spirit which will not be bound by other than forcible measures. The atti tude which the majority of the Cnamber has assumed, is a threatening one for the ministry. The semi liberal frac'ion of the committee on the address has withdrawn its draft, and agreed to discuss one pro pond in the Chamber by Baron Vincke, of a highly patriotic, warlike, and anti-ministerial nature. The members of the Right appear in doubt as to the course 'they ought to pursue; and, from observations which fell from the mouths ofsertain of their members, they would seem to be Equally disinterested and indignant with the concessions which have been made by Man teuf fel. Let us now see what they are. First of all, then, in the Hessian question the former favourable arrange ment has been entirely set aside. The Elector returns to Cassel at the head of an Austrian and a Prussian battalion, and immediately after his arrival the Austrollavarian army, under Prince Thurn and Taxis, will advance in the same direction. The Conatituti•melle says Prince Schwerzenberg declared at ()blintz that the army of intervention would not be provided with food in the southern parts of the Elec torate, nor could it be withdrawn, and Manteoffel there fore consented to its passage across the military roads now occupied by the Prussian troops. A passage in the speech of the minister, in which he says that the right of using the military made does not confer on Prussia any right to oppose the passage of another army, fully cantle.= this statement of the Constieutionalle. The military importance of the position at Cassel is thus abandoled, and, eh iuld the tree conferences at Dresden not terminate in a satisfactory manner, Austria will be able to cat off all communication with the Rhine provinces by a rabid march on Hanover. The occu pation of Hanover in the late war by the French troops was the signal for the tem porary dissolution of Prussia. The cabinet council which met yesterday under the pre sidency of the King, has agreed to this proposi tion, and the resolution was telegraphed to Vienna at once. This appears to have been necesea•y; for at Olmu it the two ministers agreed to these points, with the reservation, of course, of the consent of their re spective courta. Prince Schwarzenberg is said, moreover, to have fixed • period of time within which on answer was to be given by Prussia, or the declaration of war to ensue. An Austrian and a Prussian commissary are to restore order in the Electorate. The Constitutionnelk, which evidently draws its information from an authentic worse, notwithstanding that its communications of yes terday were declared this morning by the Deutsche Reform to be so many "lies," says that Austria has conceded that the troops under Than and Taxis shall cease to bear the name, or act under the authority of, the Bundestag. With regard to Schleswig-Holstein the Staathaltenchaft will be called upon, in a peremptory manner, to reduce its army to one-third. A similar demand is not to be made upon Denmark. Two commissioners, an Austrian sod a Prussian, will enforce this demand in Schleswig-Holstein, together with an immediate armistice. The commissioners will receive instrao tions empowering them to make terms with Den mark, and to obtain au arrangement as much as possible within the conditions of the federal resolution of September 17, 1846 (to do which the duchies have been compelled to appeal to arms). should the duchies dare to oppose the exertions of the commissaries, I am given to understand that an army of intervention, composed of Austrians and Prussians, will be sent up to compel their compliance. With respect to the general German question, it is rot clear that the Bundestag is to be entirely &bail doned by Austria, and the result of the free confer ences be accepted as bilking. on Germany without reference to that organ. It is ascertained that it will be adjourned during the sittings of the free confer , eaves, which, as has been before mentioned, are to meet at Dresden. The composition of these conferences formed another point discussed at Olmuta. They are apparently not to be free conferences, since Austria is to send one plenipotentiary for herself, and another for her allies, and Prussia the same. The small fry of kings and princes are, it seems, not to be represented. Who is to represent Hanover, which is allied to both, bat faithful to neither ? Such are the noble terms which Prussia has obtained after summoning 550,000 men to urns, expending in one short month 15 or 16 million of t balers, ruining hundreds of poor families, d swaging trade, stopping industry, and frightening the peaceful inhabitants of Europe out of their wits. Telegraphic aivices from Vienna announce that the points agreed to at Olmms between Manteuffel and Schwareenberg have received the sanction of both courts, and thus peace is secured. It is reported that Manteuffel agreed to the inter vention of the Austrian troops alone in the Duchies if the Staathalterschaft should prove obstinate, and that he had farther bound Prussia to obtain at the fres evidence's the restoration of the old narrower council at Frankfort with its 17 votes. Herr von Manteuffel reports that there are 190,000 Austrians in Bohemia, and 100,000 in Moravia. The minister has evidently been frightened by Austria and the threats of Russia. The Second Chamber met this morning to discuss the address in answer to the speech from the throne; but, owing to the communications made to the com mittee last night by the government, the address drawn up by Bodelachwingh was withdrawn, as unsuited to the circumstances, and it was resolved to discuss anew, one drawn up by Baron Vincke. The Chambers this morning were crowded to excess by what in London would be termed a highly fashionable audience. The court gallery was occupied by several of the royal princes and a number of officers in their brilliant uniforms. The diplomatic tribune was nosily full, and the other galleries were inconveniently crowded. It was whispered about that a serious attack would be made oo the ministry, and Manteuffel having resumed his seat, after a common-place and hardly intelligible address, in which he dwelt on the necessity of peace and the ' absurdity of war on account of Hesse Ousel on the Bundestag, Baron Vincks mended the tribune and demolished the policy which has been pursued by the government since 1849, in all the important foreign questions in a most effective and tel ling speech. The report given below is a poor rendering of passages full of point and sarcasm Re was interrupted frequently by the cheers of the Left and the hisses of the Right. The determined opposition of the whole liberal party to the present ministry was manifested in the most decided manner, and it is not unlikely that, when the Chambers meet to-morrow, it will be to meet no more. The ireuz:Zeitung of this evening warns the Second Chamber that it is playing a dan gerous game ; and Manteuffel himself told the Cham ber that he would know how to defend his own opinion. This expression, followed, as it was, by the declaration that he would msin his seat on the ministerial bench so long as it was the King's will and pleasure, is truly de serving of consideration. It is fraught with mean ing. The government of Prussia need be under no apprehension from the Chambers or immediately from the people. The results of such a measure would be slow, not rapid. The only difficulty would be the landwthr; and the assistance of Austria would speedily compel this body to dissolve and return home. lam ;not expressing my own views here, but those of intelligent and shrewd mem bers of the Chambers, who certainly expect steps of this kind. They consider, nevertheless, that it is a duty they owe to their country to compel the govern ment to show itself in its true light, and to prove to Prussia and to Germany whether constitutionalism or absolutism is to guide the consent of the govern ment. Baran Ladenberg has received his dismissal from the cabinet. He had again handed in his resignation on Sunday last, in consequence of his dissatisfaction with the settlement obtained by Mantenffel at Ohm's. Baron Ladenberg was the temporary pre sident of the ministry and minister of public worship. The Herr Niebuhr who has been operating in Cra wl on the minds of the members of the common council in favour of the Elector, is the same gen tleman whose name was connected with the illness of Count Brandenberg in an unpleasant man ner, and the private secretary of the King. His mission 1 in the electorate appears to have proceeded from the ' court alone, for it is denounced by the ministry, who profess to be totally ignorant of the step. Constitu tional government certainly is not thoroughly under stood in Prussia. Lord Westmoreland is understood to have contra dicted the statement which appeared in the Times, that he was about to be removed to Vienna. The noble lord remains in Berlin, but may, perhaps, proceed on a temporary mission to Vienna. PROCEEDINGS IN THE SECOND CHAMBER The Chamber met at 10 o'clock, and alter getting through certain formal busieess, proceeded to discuss the address to the King in reply to the royal speech. The president called on Vox BODELSCHWINGH, the reporter of the committee, who ascended the tribune, and spoke as follows : The draft of an address which has been hid before the Chamber was discussed and accepted by the committee on Friday lest. It is natural that this address should be cot fined to the poli tical review of the condition of Prussia which the committee was then able to obtain. Oa this ground the committee be lieved themselves justified in not admitting into the address much that otherwise would have been very suitable. The committee believed that the chief consideration was to reply to the *puck from the throne with one idea, the idea that the Prussian people preftrred an honourable peace to the dangers and chances of war. It views with pride its adrei table arms., and is ready to follow its king into a war if the honour of the country requires it. (Bravo.) I doubt not that the ministry will take the opportunity of informing the Chamber of the political state of affairs. MANTZUTPIIL 'poke from his place.—it is necessary that I should explain openly the present condition of affair., more particularly on the Gremen question. Prussia endeavoured to 1849 to procure for Germany a constitution suitable to its necessities ; these endeavours have not produced any result. Already on the Bth of October the impossibility of carrying out the constitution on the basis On which the union was to take place was acknowledged. Prussia desired from the commencement to procure for Germany • constitution by mutual agreement with all the governments. The Frank fort Bundestag, constituted by a portion of the governments of Germany, opposed the eodeavoun of Prussia. The for mer granted that the final decision was to be obtained La free conferences between all the governments of Germany, but attacked at once the tcrning questions. Prussia and her allies were at this moment in the unplessast condition of not being able to join in the discussion of the German ques tion. It is now arranged that the final solution of the Hessian and Schleswig Hoist-in questions shall be obtained from all the German governments acting in common. It has been decidid,with regard to Holstein, that commissioners on the one band of Austria and her allies, and on the other of Prussia and her allies, shall mutually settle the co , el as at issue. The allied troops summoned by the sovereign tf Hesse have entered that country, though Prussia, in the beginning, opposed their entry, from a coast deration of its military position. It has always been de. clued, however, that Prwoia possessed no right ea interfere in the internal affairs of Hesse, as no one hid invoked it. The iloal deeirion in this nutter is to be given by all the government,. What Prussia's military position requires is fully guaranteed. The military roads remain open, and can be used at any moment. Our rights to the military roads do not give us the power to hinder their being passed. (Agitati re.) The question of peace and war is a serious one. I know the feeling of the chamber and of the country ; I know that the government would have a better position if it advocated war. I acknowledge fully the great value of a p' erect unnerranding between the government and the chambers. But when I ask my conscience, I Cannot vote for war. War could be commenced solely on two grounds—either to protect the Human constitution, or to procure certain concessions in advance, which might be sub. so quently obtained, but to compel which in advance no one poetesses the right. If any one replies that unties these con cessions be made in advance it must come to a war, I ask you, gentlemen, who amongst you can say where the end of the war would be if once commenced. The campaign of one year would Colt the lieu of from 50,000 to 60,000 men. (Agitation.) I know that there are possessions compared to which such • bee is nothing. ,But the ministry could not %delis a war on account of the two points I have menlioned. I confers that dill opinions may be held upon this goes. tion. Deliberate upon it cooly and cautiously. I, too, be lieve I can appeal to my own patriotism. I know what I owe to Prussia—to Germany. I respect every other opinion, but I shall know bow to defend my own. Baron Meccas—l am opposed to the draft of the address. I consider it too tame, and not corresponding to the position of the affairs and the dignity of the chamber. The com mittee has uuhsppily not been able to obtain from the advisers of the crown satisfactory information. We have demanded information, asked questions on ell points of the Ministry, and have not ; received any satisfactory reply. Cone munications ought especially to have been made to us of the eegocistions in Warsaw, and of the instructions which the late President of the Ministry carried with him. This has not been done. In this uncertainty I must draw from what has appeared in the public prints, what has not been contradicted. I come first to the question of the German union. The government of his Majesty the King hu re peatedly and voluntarily assured us that the rejection of the hominid mown had made it the special task of Prussia to procure for the people of Germany the means of obtaining unity. The constitution of the 28th May was then laid before us; and it was said that the maintenance of the con stitution was a vital question for Prussia. The opening of the Erfurt parliaineut, delayed ten months, took place at last. It eanetloned the constitution, by a large majority; mat all the wishes of the government, and left not one unsatisfied. It was expected, very naturally, the constitution d. tided on in mordants, with the proposi. non of the government, would be immediately published and carried out. What took place ? The Congress of Princes met, and I ask the government whether it has remained true to the union ? Do not expect of me that I shall follow the course of the diplomatic notes. It was there declared that a definitivant would he strong enough to attract new elements, although fresh delays were continually incurred. Austria then forwarded the most sensitive notes, and yet the government, having missed the most favourable moment, anxiously awaited the return of another for carrying out its plane. Warsaw the government declared itself ready to abandon the union. The speech from the throne says the Idea of the union is to be maintained. The ides need not he held fast, it is free and unfettered. The first condition to be fulfilled when one demands respect is to remain faithful to our allies, but, most of all, is the stronger power to keep faith with the weaker. It might be believed that all this were only excrescences of the policy of a man whose honourable departure from the ministry is known ; a man who was ejected from the government, although his measures were acted on within two days after his ejection (Baron Vineke here read an extract from a speech made at Erfurt by Mauteuffel, in which the minister declared his unbounded faith in the union, its necessity and preetimbility.) I ask the minister, he continued, whether he still believes that he has not turned round on this question. I come now to the Schleswig Holstein question. The war in the duchies was entered into to maintain the legitimate rights of the Duke of Augusteoburg. The war was authorised by his Majes ty's own declaration, and has been ennobled by the purl& pation of our brave army. Prussia may well be proud of the noble deeds of her valiant soldiers is &blue* Holstein. It has attempted twice to put an end to the war by means of an arristice, which secured &hies. wig a mixed commission of administration. I will not enter upon the moaner in which this mixed emendation acted, but finally the war was put an end to, so far as Prussia was un earned, by a treaty of peace, the equal of which is not to be found in history. Curiously enough, the rights of both partite were reserved in this treaty; they remained open questions. It was expressly declared that nothing of Prunna's rod right wee to be abandoned, and at this moment the Bun destag resolves on the motion of the Danish ambassador, to intervene in Schleswig Holstein. We have to thank the MINION of the little state of Brunswick that that between dee bee not been carried out. We learn now that the atiatee for Foreign Affairs has entered upon an engage mnt to amid In the pacification of the Duchies. Berm Vincke then proposed the address above fasted to; and, when the speaker resumed deruti l: to I ,!' --- his seat, after exclaiming "Down vritl i• try," one buzz of approbation filled th e ' ll chamber. Manteuffel's reply was o or ty po, much in the Wellington style of sovereign. The members of the Itii;h: wh o ~,,,'. were evidently taken aback by the turn whi c h .;" had taken at Olmti.z, and hardly knew what ;,.4 Moot of their speeches were confined to ' l l generalities or attacks on democracy. Tip BERLIN, Dec 4.—Voluntary Lout, lull; x . Pour-and &aid( per Cent..., 97; N at i ona l Dene, y. . . I'll MerEilli Marine Society's Premium, 119 ; Bane B . o' VIENNA, DEC. 3.—Five per Ceut. 11. 411 ,, , , , " : , Pour-and-a-Halt per Cents., d 811. 8,. 4 ~ .1 1,142. Exchange on Loudon, 12 .36. 04.4 FRANCE. PARId, TIII7ARDIT The Assembly in its sitting of to , lar p „ discuss the bill for opening a credit i,t cover the expenses of the new levy of General Lahitte occupied the tribute to e ta lowing document: Gentlemen,—l deem it my duty at the co• tre „ this discussion to bring to the knowlecg . 1 .. the latest news which the government hew many. The Prince Bchwarzenb.rg and M d met on the 28th ult. at °laws, awl s , • lowing points:—Thera should be t,- r Prussian and federal troops in 1.• missioner with a federal oomusiesioner shot: I r. Duchies, and address together, at the •tr-• ; regency, a summons to lay down arms, cotc.,• terms. If this summons should not oh! petted from it, a corp. of Prussian troops • with the federal troops in the coercive L. ... aecessery• These two points were teth.•. convention, which was signed on the .• ber by the two negotiators. The t.r free or ministerial conference. for t h e e .• of Germany was admitted. The , place at Dresden on December Vs. 'O, Prussia accepted, on the let of Dec , th , arrs, 4 eluded at Olean's. Europe might thus c ~ on having escaped the danger of the nip. ue e e.t... imminent between the two great powers . the difficulties resulting from the very man question remain in all their force. to the bill submitted to the deliberati• •.: •.. The government had been convinc. d on a question touching the natio-. feeling hut that of the most pret. c .. exist between the executive power an.: t • The message of the President had proclaiche I France and the tquilihrium of Earop • st promised, the government would continue t , which testified its respect for the lade co; bouring nations. The committee Uttlibirt opinion of the government in declaring, the,- • • their reporter, that in tee questions which ti 4 many the policy of neutrality, as defined y•r the only policy suitable to France. Thia r e , .•r impotence por indifference; each en ateitue'.e w : thy of a gr.-at nation. The only neutralc . wee that which, hosed upon the se. lath' ' justice, and of respect for the independew e _ . to each people tit; care of settling and requirenti me its internal affairs r from the Left, "And Rome.") Gen• Genial L on the condit on, however, of ' , meeting F., tereats and rights of other nation,. with the permission of the A. 9,111 /,!e. developments which would tend •r. the policy of France towards (.1 their divisions the German Rover, Me nl. . . knowledging that new circumetsaes rerdtr more or less serious modification of C.e la.. ; of Germany, as establiahed by troni., which may be introduced into it are of t,o. of changes may bear upon the outfit n. w settled by the concurrence of the prii.ti which affect the general allusion o t• • proyortiAt of strength between the hors of the great political body, eziatence of some of its members a questions which the German pr./ to be their duty to concern thatedits e of Germany, they would understand the • ..•.. • - resolving been definitively, of proceedi. • e those powers foreign to Germany, which - . • . treaties, toe right of being consulted up rests. Another sort of changes may bear up. , t , • • however important for the internal 0W1164601.. were only secondary for the rest of Kamp, I •n,..• case he reed hardly say that France, :IL powers placed in the some condition, woe: right nor real interest to interfere in e o an and that it was a duty imposed upon her le a sere by propriety to refrain from expressing public') • upon questions which did not concern her. After thus clearly defined the character of neutral,iy *bee government was resolved to observe in its lorit.!ni...l. h would deem it superfluous to present to the m 4 r to statement of German atrium. The principal co, , r.it o att./treated by the actual situation of Germany his ready developed in the report of the committee. Ile !S thing to add to those considerations, and would at. e . r ..l to the aim of the proposition submitted to :a committee propreed to the fts.rnibly rill to v t. :.• demanded for the levy of 40,000 men, although r e the negociations at o:muts appeared such as we rev:.e avert the chances of ewer. lie thouat that the pr was else necessary in order to provide ageing , h•t eventualities which might present themselves in t. t ref phase which German affairs were now 411'.111.: chi The government had endeavoured by all !i.e teen in its power, to cause to prevail Ire all Naas of foreign gov,rnments the policy of r ate It which itself was animated ; and he trusted that the A.‘ref would not refuse to it the means which It dim I,deun .;:a to continue to safeguard in the interest us Al; principles of authority and eider tutelary us all s To conclude, the govere.ment of the republic b ki!ne , ce :1 declare loudly its twine disposition, because it sn.bi peace sincerely, without any equivo cal e .noloi•ns, wit.n weakness, with the profound and *lseree tic fee In got acs dignity or France. (Loud cheering on the M. Emanuel. Anauo declared that the face of Misr. I? peered to him completely chanced. But if be del n..t Here that in precnce of an inevitable cornice and of a we, France could proclaim her neutrality, such a declare.4l appeared to him now useless and ridiculous in the face el negotiations avoiding a war. He did not think that Fenn ought to proclaim her neutrality in the disct.u.ons were to serve for the re-constitution of Germ inst. I lit it re-constitution of Germany ought not to be dia.utsed could produce a dangerous echo. Therefore he wuiti de mand the adjournment of the debate. The Lelt and Extreme Left, inelodine Genus' Cassisx and his party, TOO in favour of the at:jou:mat nt, oAi:h ea thrown out. (At the beginning of the sitting nen: Cs vaignao constituted hime-If mediator between the Einem Lett and the Minister of Foreign Affairs, in a d e ari,sstus was understood to be the adjournment, and wrich he 'ta gestures of M. de Lahitte, was apparently declined ^f the government.) M. Matinee/ (de la Drome) spoke ill the 11110 C 1.01, preceding. General Fasvtita presented some consideration. in hoot of the bill. M. E. ARAOO asked the committee if they persisted is Ca proposition of the vote motive' which they had pr 00 0 ," their report? On receiving a reply is toe adirsetier , was surprised that the should make the Wit ptOpOMIN" two contrary hypotheses. M. DI RIMUSAT, the reporter, explained Oil: orivrattl only extended to a cue of war. The commi t.ec naio sar. its opinion that the neutrality of France sh.told be P claimed for a cue lees probable now in which wee' of break out. As to the negotiations relative to thtir cianin• Lion of Germany, it is evident that France m r Ma& lion to them, as had been stated by the Minister *IFNI* , Affairs, in order to see that the interests of Imam ma balance of Europe should not be daturbed. M. DUPONT DI BUSSAC prop sad to motiver asfa,gi the decision by which the Assembly would pus to t h e its elusion of the articles " Considering that, wording ministerial declaration, the reconstitution of Germany Rill in question, that France cannot be inattentive to the trot+ which shall regulate the new relations of the sencarl states with the great states of Germany, considerieg test I maintain the liberty of the secondary states in the n earer Lion of Germany there is a means for France to prc principlestll! the principle et non-intervention, that is, the ertnlPl! the independence of those states, the Assembly pan o the consideration of the articles." M. FitanCtanua Botivar proposed soother fora. . lows : The National Assembly, considering that the q ueso l i which at this moment divide Germany cann ot be egodsl solved by arms, that war is ordinarily for the peaftle sallalovwerythe, andme.e larest theto sbaemderatwinineinstonibtin source of mace! ssl lambledalwithfoolatthdeerogna.tillohgb°furOmingitstadiiintoliOty,ditdo7ool7'lo°.fiumas idall** constantly to a paci fi c policy, expressing its w i s hes for . eseel peace, and that a positive institution of common righ..ll one day ensure security (la permanence) to the ens deliver them from the charges of war, passes to the of the articles. bf The priority being demanded for the form P ea r.. 4 the committee it was put to the vote, when there sPle"" for The for such form pro 483 pose, ag d by tainst 21 he committee w as scl. mrdieelf m ..A adopted. The articles of the bill were a fterwards ase O PM without discussion as well as the ensemble at the bill, by ' votes against 213. The Assembly then rose. rote trite The levy of 40,000 m acs beiog likely to P q use uc l et ee i s on in h f is see ta of en the , it p isp tc po t: ed eti e pa xp ted ense dis tor misgai thia a d o ti L ion eg to ua tile n eff um l e ti r ee w b h y cie la ! 7 o lo would be completed in the spring. Menow l ..k. the measure, having been already set on foo, rep: its course, and the eight millions will be vote_ w r. iw to the understanding that a Corresponding eco ' be effected on the military budget in th Lo a ' plaint d. (right Inee, Holiness—St. Germain, 3yOJ Versa ill es and Stoi towhicochint 147 50 ; ditto (left bank), 147 a an d PariS 240;3ju1t.11. r he a Ge t 77 .. ,. Paris and Rouen, 812 50; Rouen Havre, Montersau and Troyes, 90 ; Dieppe and vai,...id.7A...:dnigns3B6o:7...;l:oo:;l4rB7trauss 3 bo im7 n sd rg ; Bireruiddasßualel.d, us:11:50;; 142365;; V 1 s LA4