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a TH E PRESS , JULY 10, 1858. 663 - • approval of the Secretary of State in Council. Th e E ar l o f D ERBY s t a t e d th a t L or d M a l mes b ur y rocabings in V arhantent. Sir E. PERRY moved to omit this clause, the effect had arrived at a totally different conclusion. of which omission would be to leave the nominations ....—.. The bill was then read a third time, and their in t h e hands of the Minister for India. lordships adjourned. HOUSE OF LORDS—MONDAY. Lord STANLEY, observing that the subject of 0 patronage had been already discussed, objected to INDIAN MEDALS. ro HOUSE OF COMMONS — TUESDAY. The Earl of DERBY, in answer to a question from leaving these nominations in the hands of the Mi. At the morning sitting, on the orler for going into the Duke of Newcastle, stated that the die of the nister, which would give him an enormous amount Committee upon the Medical Practitioners Bill, medal for services in India had been approved, and not only of influence, but of labour, if he were to moved by Mr. COWPER, investigate every case. by the time the lists of those entitled to receive it Mr. T. DUNCOMBE moved to defer the committee arrived in England the medal would be ready for The Committee divided upon this clause, which for three months. delivery ; clasps would be given for the capture of was carried by 165 to 01. This motion, upon a division, was negatived by 95 Mr. FAGAN moved a clause empowering the Council to 8, and this bill and the Co hold Acts Amendment Delhi and the defence of Lusknoe, with a separate clasp for the relief of that place. He also stated that to refer certain outstanding claims of British subjects Bill passed through committee. the peerage to be conferred on Sir Colin Campbell upon the revenues of Oude for advances made to the Lord J. MANNERS, in postponing the order for the had not been gazetted only because it was necessary then Sovereign of Oude, previous to the Act 37th committal of the Chelsea•bridge Act Amendment to hear from him what title he would select. George 111., cap. 140, to the auditor of the accounts Bill until Thursday, intimated his intention to intro- The report of the Sale of Poisons Bill was of the Council for investigation. duce a clause providing that, on the re-payment of agreed to- Lord STANLEY allowed that there were claims the 80,0001., with four per cent. interest, the foot-toll TENANT-RIGHT. upon the former Government of Oude, and that the should cease. The Earl of DERBY, in answer to the Marquis of transfer of the revenues of Oude to Great Britain The house then went into committee upon the Clanricarde, said the Government was not pledged carried with it a liability for all debts justly and Clerk of Petty Sessions (Ireland) Bill, and was occu- to introduce any measure making compulsory the fairly contracted, and he admitted that it was ex- pied with its clauses during the remainder of the cus tom called tenant-right which prevailed in some pedient that such claims should be investigated, sitting. p a rts of Ireland ; but the subject would be taken This clause, however, bad no intimate connection INDIA BILL into consideration during the recess, and, if possible, with the home administration of India, and there- In the evening, on the order for the consideration a measure would be proposed next session remedying fore it would not be convenient to insert the clause of the Government of India (No. 3) Bill, as amended, the anomalies of the present law. in this bill, and, besides, the course, in his opinion, Lord STANLEY moved the omission of the 31st The Joint-stock Companies Act Amendment Bill was not the best calculated to insure the object. clause, making provision for the appointment of was read a second time. There were other claims upon Oude besides those in persons entitled under the Act 16th and 17th of OATHS BILL. question, and the tribunal ought to he one that could Victoria, cap. 95, and the substitution of two clauses, On the order of the day for going into committee consider all claims, which could be best investigated —one repealing certain clauses in the act referred on this bill (Lord Lucan's), . by a commission upon the spot. to, so far as they apply to or provide for the admis- The Earl of CLANCARTY asked whether the Sove- The clause, after some discussion, was negatived. sion or appointment of persons to the Civil Service reign would be called on to give her royal assent The bill was then ordered to be reported. of India; the other providing that regulations shall to a measure which might be opposed to her con- UNIVERSITIES (SCOTLAND) BILL. be made by the Secretary of State in Council, with scientious opinions. He also drew attention to the On the order for considering this bill, as amended, the advice and assistance of the commissioners fact that no security had been taken to prevent a Jew Colonel SYEES moved that the provost, magistrates, acting in execution of the Order in Council of the from using the Legislative power given him to the and council of the city of Aberdeen be heard by 21st of May, 1855, for admitting all persons desirous injury of the Established Church. them , elves or their counsel against the bill, of becoming candidates for appointment to the Civil The Duke of MARLBOROUGH thought some security The Lear, ADVOCATE said it was not shown that Service of India to be examined as candidates against the abuse of the power conferred ought to be the house could be better informed or instructed by accordingly, and for regulating and conducting such taken. The Jews should not be placed, in this counsel than it was at present ; therefore no ground examinations ; and that the candidates certified as respect, in a better position than the Roman had been laid for the motion, entitled shall be recommended for appointment, Catholics. The motion was negatived. and shall alone be admitted to the Civil Service of Lord REDESDALE protested against allowing the On the motion of Mr. GLADSTONE, two clauses India. change proposed to be effected by resolution instead were added to the bill, empowering the Universities These clauses, after some discussion, were agreed to. of enactment. named in the bill, if her Majesty should grant a Mr. GLADSTONE moved a clause enacting that, Lord BROUGHAM thought there was no force in the charter for the foundation of a National University except for repelling actual invasion, or under sudden objection. . for Scotland, to surrender to the commissioners the or urgent necessity, her Majesty's forces in India The Earl of DERBY had no reason to suppose that, power of granting degrees, and to become colleges of shall not be employed in any military operation if both Howes of Parliament passed the bill, her such National University. beyond the external frontier of her Indian posses- Majesty would interpose her prerogative to pre- A clause moved by Mr. Desr.or, providing that sions without the consent of Parliament to the vent its becoming law. He admitted that some the offices of principal in the Universities of Glasgow, purposes thereof. He strongly urged the policy of amendments would be required in the bill as it Aberdeen, and Edinburgh shall not be deemed this restraint upon principle and with reference to stood. "chairs of theology," though opposed by the Lord facts and examples, dwelling especially upon the After a few remarks from Lord CAMPBELL, Advocate, was carried upon a division by 82 to 58, Affghan and Persian wars. Lord LINDHURST believed when the amendments and added to the bill. Lord STANLEY assented to the motion. The reason alluded to wets printed they would make the bill Another clause, proposed by Mr. Dmake, enacting why such a provision was not inserted in the original resemble the one be had himself proposed. The that no distinction should be recognized among the draught of the bill was, he said, that, as a practical present bill was very ill drawn ; the person who professors of the Universities of Glasgow, not check upon the Minister, it would have no binding drew it did not appear even to have read the Abju- ob j ected to b y the Lord Advocate, was a g reed to. force ; but lie agreed with Mr. Gladstone that it ration Oath, as the words proposed to be omitted Other amendments were made in the bill, including was a matter of importance to place formally upon were not in the form of the oath at all. The unne- the addition of the name of Mr. Alexander Murray record the intention and will of Parliament upon the cessary verbiage ought to be struck out, and the Dunlop tthe member for Greenock) to the list of subject. recital of the words of the Oath of Abjuration made commissioners named in the bill. The object and the wording of the clause were to correspond with the oath itself. He should post- A proviso to clause 10, moved by Mr. BAXTER, strongly objected to by Lord PALMERSTON, but, with pone his own bill sins die. restraining the commissioners from applying any a verbal alteration, the clause was carried upon a The house then wont into committee pro forma, portion of the moneys for the salaries of principals division by 152 to 46. and the amendments were introduced and ordered to or professors required to subscribe a religious test, Lord PALMERSTON moved the insertion of a clause be printed and not included in the provisions of the Act of the limiting the continuance of the act, so far as related Their lordships then adjourned. Nth and 17th of Victoria, c. 89, was negatived by to the nomination, election, numbers , duration o f 118 to 102. service, salaries, and retired allowances of the coun- - 110 USE OF COMMONS—MoNeay. The house then went into, committee upon the cillors, to five years. His object, he said, was to remaining clauses of the Sale and Transfer of Land give Parliament an opportunity, or rather to impose INDIA BILL. The house having resolved itself into a committee (Ireland) Bill, which were agreed to, and the bill upon it the necessity, of reviewing a nd reconsidering an the Government of India (No. 3) Bill, on the was ordered to be reported. the arrangements regarding the Council after a new 33rd clause (proposed by the Government), Various bills were forwarded a stage, and, after limited time. He repeated his objections to the enacting that regulations should be made for admit - some further business, the house adjourned at half - number of the members of th e C ouncil ; be believed rug persons desirous of becoming candidates for past one o'clock. that eight, or even six , wo u ld be sufficient, and that .lIIIIMMI fifteen would prove an incumbrance. cadetships sin the Engineers and Artillery to be ex- mined, HOUSE OF LORDS—TUESDAY. Lord STANLEY opposed the clause. He urged the Mr. MONSELL moved to substitute for "cadetships," The Duke of MARLBOROUGH gave notice that in inconvenience of being obliged to introduce a Con- kc., the words " admission into the Military College com mittee on the Oaths Bill he should move the in- tinuance Bill for India, and that the clause was nn- at eoldiscombe." sertion of a clause prohibiting persons of the Jewish necessary, since practically the door was always open for a reconsideration of the ect. With regard to Lord STANLEY, objecting to this amendment, was religion from advising the Crown on ecclesiastical the number of councillors, he subj repeated that it might read) to assent to the principle that it was desirable appointments , be possible hereafter greatly to reduce the amount that those persons who went out as cadets should On the motion for receiving the report of Amend- of business at home, and, if this should prove to be have served at the military college. ments to the Ecclesiastical Commission Bill, • • the fact, no Minister need be ashamed of coming The amendment was negatived. Lord RAVENSWORTH moved an amendment, limit- down to the house and saying so ; but he objected to The new 34th clause, which provided that not less ing the power of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners to condemning by anticipation a plan which had re- than one•tenth of the number of persons to be re- make appointments as an exchange of ecclesiastical calved the deliberate assent of the house. commended in any year tor military cadetships shall patronage without th e writte n consent of the bisho p s A long discussion ensued, in which it was eon- be selected from among the sons of persons who have of the dioceses in which such livings are situated. tended on one side that the clause would, at the end served in India in the military or civil service of her The Earl of DERB Y objected to giving the bisho p s of five 3ears, transfer the entire authority to the Majesty or of the East Indic Company, was objected an absolute veto on these appointments; and the Secretary of State; and on the other side, that it to by Mr. BLACKBURN on the ground that the principle amendment, on a division, was negatived, the num- merely insured a reconsideration of the questions of was a dangerous one, while Colonel Svees believed hers being, Contents , 12 ; Non - Conte nts, 38. the number and remuneration of the councillors. it would not work. The report, after a short discussion, was received. Upon a (division, the clause was negatived by 149 The clause was, however, agreed to. The report of the County Court Districts Bill was t o 115. The new 35th clause enacted th at, except as afore- agreed w. Mr. Szymoue moved a clause repeali n g certain said, all persons to be recommended for military cadetship s shall be nominated by the Secretary o f CHINESE PASSENGERS ACT AMENDMENT BILL. sections of the Act 33 George 111. , c. 52, in order to On the motion for the third reading of this bill , throw open to other qualified persons offices hitherto State and members of Council, so that out of seven - teen nominations the Secretary of State should have I Lord BROUGHAM repeated his opin i o n that the ne g ro es exclusive l y f illed b y members of the civil service. two and each mem b er o f Council one, subject to the 1 found on board the Regina Cali w e r e rea ll y slaves. There were m an y o ffi ces in India, he observed, now