The Express. — London, England, 1855-01-30 00:00:00

If RP.' IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—MoNDAT, JAN. 29. Tka I.OIID CRANceiaat tab his art at 6 ceded. CONDUCT OF THZ WAR. Led LYNDHURST postpaid the tiered of whisk be bed eves dam for Friday. until Moedey seat. ILIT A RY DECORATIONS _ _ The Oaks off&WCASrLBhid as i 4,141.4 the CA mesa medal, it was Weeded that all these who hod bare iseesened he the Odium samples hen the Int is peewit time sheen resolve net model. The dMYidws et deeps was es • different feseleg, these being glees + .et heft impales generally, het he ge MAMMA mike. how elder inept is the midge at nelekkee amid re. *she the glair he that MM. Of saes., hefted' meet be Wee in all them seen; but, ag genneally, Mee bilialisa with regard le all thole wee IMO they ' ascii be ghee te those imply who were he the MOM for whille they were ghee. This was set as salt tisg eggietagiv be make satstemeet, whist' he biped e= be inemble bath to She Mese mad the rem nerehl egaidtheglies, 'AIM ought o=i gay sheep id isearlidea, bar Medals 1241 linseed that $ wet if military merit should be faidistd, whisk shield be estimable to all mks of the army in fawn It wisest Weibel Se allot is say way the present Order of She Dens beta gigged* ergs of military merit would be geasted. Irbil& wean be stainable by ell ranks of the esm, sad, as lee hr. weed be an objeet of ambition to A, Ms the game ememead dowa to the latest private ebb het sated. Be weld et my that the rules for this MO bed bees andeely =Muffed ; of amen a good deal of farth eminamthe and inquiry would be uoneeary, ma to similar imam es the sootiest. la throe continental cionntries, MO% lessfa, sad Austria, sometking saisted. Bat be might mate generally that it was proposed, to obviate the great Inconvenience that might arise if the invidious task we isapeeed upon the officer in command of soli etiag agehb ream this mark of honour, that the imam would be aliesed of leaving the selection to a jury of their peen—a jury of soldiers of the reek to which the preens on whom the decoration was to be Miaowed belonged. Of soiree the bestowal of the demotion would be emeirmed from home. That, be bullied, was the emu is which the Harlan awl Spiaidi eiders were bestowed; he was not certain as to the Austrian. TRH WAR DRPARTYRNT. Ind GREY, plummet W mdse. mewed a reedetion Maw forth that the adminhbedan el re army ought to be earteentnited and bought under its mini el a Week deeerimonh L dielidep the mime e▪ t ammalidedes whish he whirl le istenhase. the mile • ezplaised that its ablet halm mmthlell Ile mew Waimea et a beard, sesserhed smiting hc tr intrd Admiralty, whisk was M administer the while busissee eessemed wait the maim amiss In bone& The Commander-inpailt he iseptesil le a among the members of She beard, but net le inetel i C with tha prissipal antisidly that,. Ile Mold l also, that the while of the army he l = in the hands of the board. This Duke of N the priesiples ea which, in hie egliies. the esee= of the war de partments sheet/ be Abele'. ladersimp le the seadition et the um is the Criestedie sticibnltil die privations it had vadtepene principal to the geese of 0.111110111 bath Is eSesee esi so, and .grei.lly es Li whet wen eallidaseep fid esemetat at mete lamp& open the immerses dalleiondes ha the maiden reseneme el the eountry ocioadeeed by eapsieebedee and • tee Met eeenemy. Three aims, he beta dampaitheil to Pans to inquire iato the et the FM* military system, and Lord Seem MI bees reinamed to make similar inquiries ha EM Preset neap. Great advantage wee to b. andeipeled gem the need ad those investigations. Reverting to the limo theta seleset before the honer, the Secretary of Wardstallitill the MINIM which led his to behave that a beard would be ▪ meet analbroos and inefficient machine for die pukes ease tithe duties that fell upon the various departments et the war administration, and was calculated to melt in Hsi des eseharreennents, and a ILLOVITOUS division of respossibi Viscount BARDINGB described sum of the improve ments in the organisation of the army and the aaaaagensent of 'military *fairs which had been lately introdneed, or were is tonne of adoption. Any superiority which the French army exhibited was, he urged, attributable, sot to the greater excelleoce of their system, which was is many point copied from oar owe, bet to Os extensive emporium gathered in the Algeriaa campaigns. Lord CAMPBELL supported the The But of ELLENBOEOCdia bawd ad seta uses which were so ranch Isatessil boa 114001111 it lbe Brim* and not at home. as 1111111141111 al 111111 INNS le i eri litmed in the pending arils bee d adabir, *Rein; as well as to tbisminmes it embodied. TI. proposal for transferring the tilde pitman' of MO army virtually to the minister of theirewn wee, be ethi dewed, especially objectionable. Berl GREY briery replied, withdrawiag his mohair& Their lordships edj oureed at a 'outer to nine o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS-MONDAY, lAN. 29. TM SriLaza took the chair at four o'clock. PUBLIC HEALTH BILL. . _ Oa the motion of Sir B. HALL, this bill was read a hat time, sad ordered to be read a 'mad lists this day het. sight. THE CAVALRY CHARGE AT BALAILLAVA. Hr. H. 4killLid wlaiia4lt;a2l:tiathCtietati at Wax, firstly, whether say eorreepesdeaes and what Ms taken place between Field Marshal Lord &slim sod her Majesty's immanent on the enbiset of the seelsztehreg dimmer which occurred at the battle of }Wahiawa, whets the lives of so many of oar gallium men of the light carob, were lest, and whether there be any objectiou to lay seek ' the table • secondly, whither doe faqairy has =B ea made or be soatemplated on the subject Mr. S. HERBERT, is answer to the quest/es, said he bad to state first of all, that ia mentioning the temp of light sanity st Beleklays, he would Dave found other terns *as them of a " aeleneholy disaster " in speaking of that (Hear, hear.) With regard to the question f ell iti had tOstate, that Lord Raglan made a cesmouni seem as the subject, whisk, however, be woe lot la a peekiss to lay ea the labia He hoped the hon. gentleman would set press the subject thee, hat he amid smears aim it had eat ihswed_the smalls of the good SA O. INIZELEY Mind to sada liewstreyo War ethedema two : lint, abeam the soda width kad been is oh the aweepspers se emaelles beta Lord to Leal Lassa to, the light drip of amity to Alsembreas sham at Beialdene.le thoeserest order ear man It ram thus : . Lord Bailin whim the tawdry to abeam rapidly to the from, follow the army. mil In to penal their carrying sway the rms. A weep d Neese Artillery may accompany. The /stash cavalry I. ca the left. Ismedtate." The seemed tasetioa is. why the feminist of these brave mes are not to have a clasp to their medal with the word " Balaklava " upon it, in additioa to " Alma " and " laitarmana ?" Mr. 8. HERBERT said the words were an nenaratis transcript of the order given by Lad Raglan. With regard Sethi Nosed question, asleep was granted by her Ifidenty to themes. (Rear.) Mr. H. BERKELEY gave nett., that he would swim address to bar Majesty, praying for an iinpury ids thee .1 gut of Lient.-General Lord Lucas, in ordering*, dregs d Light Cavalry, at &fanfare, under eireanisionees when SWIM ass impossible, disaster certain, and 11111111 MOWN a fees saerifire of life. OOIi3BePONDKNTS OF THE DAILY PHEW BIRESFORD wished to ask the &ecstasy at War 'bother, Multi; the present campaign I. the But, tallow base bees supplied by the Commissariat to say of en tiom moterosadts of the daily press, and, if so, by what antboaiCllu the issue taken place, and has it matiased up to the lan smarm furnished ? Kr. B. AIRBERT said he had first to state that it had bent Iheept to the knowledge of the gesernment that Tares heel beet supplied to the serimpeadeen of the daily pule, bat not by the rarity et the but he sinald apprehend they were set tiont= l ol ll 7 to the present date, bemuse the Beard of Audit of the Carr suite drifted, awl very rly, that item of es ant, as they maid lad ty for it. (Hear, hear.) Os this ether he begged to read a letter, whisk be had resolved has Or C. Tre rayon, who desired se mete rows the reel thels of this natter, as reforms* Ind Ira made to him slighter. "Menthes that a peons hes Mr hiked la the lease ef Osenmers Motive to the Mae ef mars to ways the meempladents of the daily per duties the pm ses=rWinistsistheyßase,_lbsi to state that is MA, kat I -Oesseth Filder to enable Kr. Bab. :§, the eerraspeadent of the Antes, to pedde himself with food for Massif sad sesensis, reales that he paid kr it at the full 40SrreCi ars, eal la thseNn .FWar hid as area to swans that Lori Ilspat would dimmer of the Whiners ; sad I observed to Kr. Paths *al Iha lus Need the Asian menspearthat did sot appear to no to be ego% se, bend, they mesa mot at that use. to the diarp of pain Isannatioson ens el maidens spesuletifte, g i T ess zebehlethe plans of apiellen, whirl wadi he ell• la a military poiat of view. This woe ha the mouth ed Kay last, when the may was at Canna= seder mans far Vans. The easy appration I was ea Kr. Russell's behalf, aid I theepit it very Melly that if be were not allowed to pram hie food hem the Osmasinariat stores he would be seliseled to greet team. tins. I did not Nubian the nutter to say wary d the C'reat, be cause it did not at that time appose te ate to ni ` llasentimportance." Os the Sikh of May Mr. Fil th: war :—" It is said that Lied hegira Ism mired to permit the eorrespeadeuts of the ftwappers to amempany the twee tato the field. Of rum scything I vim write Is yea is such a subject mit yield to his lardship's a:premed wishes sad inteatism." . He gave din► tier that any of the repress for the Leedom daily press with the arty, whis mlalt be se ream eleneed that they could not prams should be allowed to draw retire en swathe theireddies vales." Tibias letters showed that the of the Teueenr, wee suldeisat for its rapes, fp this hens of eerier was detected by the Aunt 01the the enplane disallowed order by this rears Ile piper anthmity did an then. THE MIRY IN THE CRIKBA —ADJOIIIIIIRD DREAM& M,. STAFFORD dna rote, and reamed the adjourned debate by midair ties Mamba or die Imam to the rear be W Wardr sees, sad to tbe teammates. be had %km a part la. la tbe Odom Is mild WIN the Mere bo was ha mst alleelled gi a wy be ha melbas Is Om eel Se ibe Roc tad whitlow ages be would be ready to give th an We =of all hie up adiwlw (Rear, hear.) Re woe MOM* be hear that the t had dater-Was& le open a lap at • He west over the bane* % a mid* so , • • the bugled, amd met se it wee, beat its - ""rli ti lldnuk adapted* the pursue at at Ihmassi, hem despesdeally • • • • r • limsgie, was nest - *tune of .„. The satins is We vvc ills:have di asedbideambeemess We leed.The had hewed same mimeos Me salfest, bat wee mw :wee ends, width bad se West. Sane modems N pristeisid semi eat they bad this power. He beliseed bale teLopilid at 11bytt would est bus oat a fatigue ifjorool7 whis be weellbers Was woe smooder s =s, = 0 llor , . port vim, although the mu were saw stresithea thew, wadi it would be bases silk to get awe foe some time. He addressed a letter tit:tel to the distributor of the 10,00111. teed, and be it due to that isatlemese es Mats that though he oesspied a &Sub sod dengue, sad la asses napes •aa emblems paddies, he dis tributed that head set eel, te We satisfaction et the subscribers bat le the eadebilles of the poor soldiers themselves. He wu tiny W say that that fund was now nearly expeaded ; but that sonless. bad shows what sight be dome by 10,0001. judiciously distributed. It ena bled the peer nu, If they did not get tbia or that reijusiite, to go to the Time fund, and there they got what they wanted. Be did net hesitate to say that, from the way it was easmoped, that food wowed five times the amass ries sad seashrts whisk it otherwise would have dome. Sines }obits Wad= bad beta called to it Wags had been very wadi improved, bat there had bun use radical evils from the eceusemseuest of the sputa that s ectald never homed. It was said that the atiesphen had Nemo ea healthy—it bad never hoes Sae never could be healthy. He would wish the house to consider the eireuestaams eater whisk he found it, although the *talk might be somewhat digesting. He head all the corridors were floored with poet= inginesd tiles; on this floor the mattresses worst/fag, as thews were no bedsteads, and, from the ahem* ef utsesils, the poor creatures were •Mined * diashar everything en the fhor. It was sever w sour ecald be wasbed,—boceeso it absethed se meth water that it was feared the enmities tread proles* fever. The atm- Lm wee e insotab e= s or with the attendants — was that whoever to whoeverte eared eatah the prevailing diesel* Debts kowever,thery sna i l: , make Zdester•trMilmale Om *eh a state of seesnain what ens es ma el the pad** es = u gent al, and hew far the ailment dsgertmente at the lespi- Id rare or able ea mat him. Oe two easasiess le Wheel! wee m mod ear Emmy to ream evas WWI the dears had M be atal. but whisk they Wall set named ia Mai mama Re did net wish to Wks dews masers as any walk& bet he wee prepared hi mialles We amass to do lemetimy at War; at the same Use he mod my he believed Wetter, dillealty arose Asa WOES of pewee &streams Mae head. He = next gob eflhe sees of the se-sallod esevelescests seat acmes the Ides lea to join the esmp at Baklava. Tam Mead of deem were put es head me mask but the op =leek enemy, Waring that be meld not be ro be their lives. He went reead and examined the =a of the ma. Be found them lamentably in warm oak& and many of them wen without their knapeadm. He observed that some had very bad these, sad em asking when their others were ho was NM they ware is their knapsacks, en Weed a 164 set ease bemired yards off, and that they avail set get a heat to hs them. He obtained a boat with the eagnies and sent the men to fetch the kriareelos ; they retuned with only two; they saw the others k th e hold, bat dm micas meld not or would not unload his ship es get attheth The men *loosed to the Fusiliers, end his would she the Mese the history of their knapsacks ; whim they Laded at Aim they were ordered (for very meant ream se doubt) to land without their knapsacks. Theeil were not afterwards left in the Crimea, but km& WA to Scutari in the Teasel; they remained on band RI the went beak to Baader& ; even then they were Melleedel i but after • further voyage found themselves apes at Scutari, and at the moment the men were steep east ward to rejoin their regiment the knapsacks were coming' down the Sea of Mormon as their way home. In his des unties he wrote to Mr. Osborne on the abject,' bet that pollen= after making every exertion was obliged ' to give the matter up. So mach for the knapsacks. (" Hear," and cheers.) During the voyage several of the maraleicents took ill again; one man was attacked with asimmis symptoms, but, owing to the cars of the doctor, Were posed away, and he arrived in the Crimea suffering that a low fever. He had next to speak of • name gllmasmeseistsd with two very different things—one the s atiey *sleeved by the hdemieble valour of the edam ; the oar a am of sedisien. misery, and death, Wally ruipmated Is the same Imes la the annals of the Wt. He had to speak of the hospital at Balsklave. The ham was aware mum bad since been taken to remove aIIM of the evils that then existed; but when he saw it there wee no ventilation, ais cleanliness. not a single skeet la pilli° Me • single w ease ; many men billeted with one dis ease el another from being put into a bed Ism w a wens had just been removed. He thud no mailed emferts had been provided; be hued 14 eame la mie room and nine in another, lying ea the Ike; liellis the passage between the rooms were a of essamt bedsteads, that might have been put rt jerk** lelenie& He believed be used strong language as that iselthilm. (Hear, hear.) The next morning he returned. awl mode severa l attempts to converse with the way beil And In ashiget so information from them in ths pima stamp alela • they had a parrot rote, which they opened abeatilhomm:Seete they enjoyed and the care gees these. TM beta ameneued the orderlies, and the eriedies dessessed dreamer's, bat between both the pa tients died. Holed early spoken of the addiar Washed with choleraic eyespots. ea beard the transport; that ease noon Ise found the sem ma sittiag la the rein in estate of the greatest examen; M hod bees leaded hum the hem pen, and there ma on me le me.:lve him or point hit out the way to the !espial. He (Mr. Stafford) took hint to the hospital, sad sad the doctor what was to be done. TM duster said be woad take a note, to which be regthed, " While you do It the men will die." He took him la the ward himself end get him something. The next day the ma wee dalideekid he soon found • grave in We away imam at Belailave. He would mention wedhateess—a son beltagies to a new carpe lately raised eel nth * BelakLui, with men than ordinary cue ; he ele day Wend His sus very ill, and, in answer to his h ooka, heed did hie alesakb could retain no food bat a admen deep, beds pint of which was issued one* a day. The man asked to have it the.. times a day in lien of the OW rations, or to be allowed to purchase it himself, but was refused. He (Mr, Stafford) asked permission to bring madras a the man, but was told such a proceeding would subvert all order. He saw the man again, but he was sinking so rapidly that he was moon beyond the reach of the doeton at Beldam. He would nut come to the embarkation of the sick and wounded soldiers. He woe riding use B rly sid ( s he might tell the bows that to be lest a Mess at ea was a favour then OD le kat a oroollt and four at lipeore) wi r e er n at li i : saw • me lyfag es the milk evidently in the last nap of disinow niesisd nd maim out Ire some me N help him Or k ill M him; sad lifted Idle up; he then found four or less In the ask so far worse that they meld net even task; and, tusks round, saw a bag trek of wounded es Tama males sad in the Erma essbasess. IL ' Iri g ra.asks woo Wadi net Wham to die Mese; " bet be mums de the Frisk the J to ain to say that no add have been mese kind the poor fellows 1111rIl la wato. (" Hear," and sharre.) There were no bees mad the the reeepiim of the wounded, no shelter, and they bed le lie m sae faggots In the road till the two Male appregileted he theta see could put them as Mese the idea; these Ira so doctor thus, nor no Ml he them apes their hog purse frees the mine- Ose as asked he mate tea'; mar a while he found a small sbeg. where he height sense tea, and skies a little spirits with lt, he peered ft awn the ma's throat with a epees. lb meld sod Ma to the ems of the Avon : on board her M head am asked lying on the desks, without makirmase, nedeag he ewer them but a filthy Musket and wee eath Ono the effects of their disease was to pro lusion *teems ilk; therefore no matter bow filthy their baba were, they weed not pert with them. He mat ea bawd. and head thet seth had buss sewed out to lime gm hates but peak and_ aide kmait was then tel ft» *Week la the WlNfelia--ft pees bad ben %lift hem four edit*, but lbw were still - like bullets at a remimtwhen the split peso a lie crew had been reduced Is alai ....p. Thu meetelity on board the acil r or es emethiag frlghted , owing, no doubt, to fed; and it would have been greater, bet mime of the soldiers, having • little ameso , , had Mega bed from the ship's new. It was that we melted the elaistion d llr. Osborne*. He (11dr. Star- OW) some men is the Calk te Oresteatinople with sick. Re Mad le taletlajampaelad. or Ma; beeser to her etreaskr, Oaplels lad who hid eared into a mere wasimes with*. albeekies at alehae. whisk wee open W lammed at my hei. nimbor. The Cada mad likes MN am Miseclas with liteeektempe. sad be bud sew sees a lase Mania of the ernes leases Reeked end Frame than the had dam leweek heaps hum theme ship*tbe Freak wen slice ready Is eeksowleap the 0 ft...pm. Tam We __ mesa Itt 5.a11a ten —die Illst d the ass mil 1 Masem-ant Iheyjammil saes is Heaths Dorh smog mil WNW. and Essig kr mat at the amok TM Ceedla wee Wea maid le Ilselael. salliag at Baklava he slit ail. rad leas beard a liege ow* of mead ma k% al* he Ahead to the mamas an, who re tied W roma theee, eel he was at lad eillearsay be iessid oho them to Bolas Maim beit a sok admen she meld 4 : ‘,l =he theatt (Hr. Stallml) meld take et Ws leek wry to the meaner lava* dais I t e dmilisaied Ws the seams dada& Meld vies ea Weed the silk iris obliged te write eliel i all s z i ll We bard to ray that he bad neither medicate our madlerte Oa board, ad but a that letter he would have bees obliged to go to ma without either. Every mart put m beard illiaralail with sonde, and had so moverieg bat • filthy bakes. Wks he impressed hiii horror at this state of things to Captain Field, that arm mated he bad some blankets on board be begat to the , bat be would brae dim to the sick if the mead gum a outlaws of the amenity ; M Stead) mat to the dormer, and stated that, from his of the Duke se Howarth, he was sure le THZ EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, JANUARY 30. 1855. would inelook say departure from routes in such as l alike from the samitsof monk sad ef adadrak. eve* gpit, amegesb4sYsb tes ib e Gertiftease 11ma cow only o gr ate , and mas ardsiia s. t y iavd'e in tlera y. ne h tezd to sir the nalpiti?nersiditniilLirt Untied bah mg the Mt we* ea doh, es bee he Wessel Ulm bed or_ruiped that wadaet, it O ppos ition.) reached hie goalie men et bad es distribute them sad in thei an WM hark ideas eti. le ahoeld .have been ready to tee help theadidni. 41 hint Is detail. Me had leached da all topics, oad s atiesellerel hen avoided throwing ses blame on the B M ssa.,_Menonseas provide of ty. Now, be might be es tested to rett his s e s Myself .(" Ithea," gad ship thil he the Medea ow the posed that the beard with " f Ike& will ear l mak whisk be bad been coaneeted had done its duty. But he W • efthelifeald net hese it ea scab Lamm end primal oft epepeets. Noildag lei swath phew& tos sould not neamille it to his seam of justice to t state of the tress merrier Whin he sacrifice the mialstor to the faults of the system, which had was en =he firth teemed Mee arrival its keseport been Bri ~ned bbyythe hon gentleman on the other side of the with sin from seeing the dead bodies wand imbue, liaise),tea the-sines of the middle ages. But courted that' ken tee caMele Se geoid not what was the seal state of the can ? The system of the land her freight on sensual of . ,bad fireather,, aid sU them May had ben assrhhedsanctioned, and confirmed by that Inn *ewe up in tisnonoelis sad cast ovtboord with-. boom , and by fames atiaaittiee—(hier. hear) - -thactiased mildeltelsolelkithe bodies werithenfen washed ashore sad' mg liearrsed fn spite of numerous motions made by the buried the Task Ho had ofemed over to tie other side boa. member foe Montreee and other members—(bear, hear) of the ;sad -went to the Freon lespital ; be —in spite of deliberate reports made many pen ago, mi nima le aseethein whether the evils he lad sea at Scutari oommeadiag the reform and reconstruction of the whole. wen asavolishis. He beadle very different stab of things. Would say men tall him that their military system, as mm- Hg west within say melee, and early la he morning, stinted at present, had tended to develne or bring fer mium nary beepital is seen at a gnat dkedeiatage. He weed =Mealy abet sad pales ? He denied the fond the anent demalien and perfect vesilation. He fact. Let them_ lea la the first instance how went without say inkeinstioni but, after la had visited the Sae the Benin army was composed. (Opposition the words. hi iatrodesed himself to the did officer, to shun empanded to by diem from the ministerial side.) whose kimines be was mask indebted. Respect three It wee eon well he be.. gentlemen to come down to the hours la the banital s end could not describe i better than house, and talk of a soneolidetion of offices—of placing all in the wens of a ;issue who accompanied him "It seemed the departments wader sae bud, and substituting one man as if the French had bees there ten year., an that we had for another. He maintained that whatever might be the only got there yesterday." He would not, /weever, be inherent viper of that mac—whatever might be his ex doing his duty after drawing such a 'loons, peturr, if he perfume —a mere elneelidation of offices was not sufficient. did sot from his hurt congratalate the Secretary of War (Hear, hear.) The, nest reconstruct the whole military on the effect of one step he had taken during the present system. The Una bad arrived when they could not expect wsr—he meant of enrol the sending out the urns to the an army set merely to win battles in the field, but to go hospital. (" Hear," and cheers.) Nothing end have been through all the Melmindea of a campaign, without laying more successful than the human MGM of the lint hon. gen- an unsperieg land ea that buildiodwhich was adjacent to Oman. He know of the bleak these numbed been to those peados ter) without finding, in fact, the soldiers, but the hew scald hardly main it. It a sated to tarn the Serpentine into would be impossible for him to do justice, notoaly to the the Horn Guards and all the ransificatioas of the kindness of the heart but also to the cleverness War department. (Hear, hear.) He had alluded to the of the bead of theladies to whom that diffi- appoistments to the staff. The 11011. gentleman (tdr. Seal cult mission had been entreated. He would re- ford) bed veal remarked that they must speak out on this commend the right hon. gentleman that if he matinee& in essailia. They mast sot only not object to filthy details, office, or his successor.whother, he might be, to consult that bet they meet hese Mies teethe. Let them look at the lady before he determined on the &meagerness for their asipsdass eft ildr at the English army. Why, in the new hospital, and even to give way to her ween their Free* assay the staff was inhumed the righthand of the judgments differed. Any minister would deserve the axe- army. The Gam were 1111161114111 fur their knowledge of oration of the country olio, after Beadles oat these ladies, military SAM% aid for thole/Et* of their experience. would then desert them. He hoped they meld ea be Was bat ;the use in the Healla ono ? Did not hon. affected by the outcry raised easiest them by a pinks of pannesa know that it was est he merit and capability empress. Some time &nor a French olden remarked to that an odor was appointed to the staff but through him that the eommiesariat arid medical arrangements of the interest and connexion ? (Hear, hear.) Lot say hon. lisillik army were based on the system of the middle gentlemen men fie a return of the staff officers employed bake, war had become a science, and he se Ohs gamed sear at present in the Crimea. How rainy Naon r r' We regret it more because we now know of these an. OW speak French? (Laughter.) How what treble lives you lose." He believed it was assay of then and Inn a common field plea ? (Hear, true. He knew something of the French amp, hoar) He mmtered to say that not one-third of them V il helfed been arrested there as a Hessian spy, suspicion could do so. It would be Invidious to mention cameo, and bike embed by the number of questions he asked. He God forbid that he should do so ; he attacked no individual UMW eddies who arrested him, and the captain of gen- —he attacked the system. (Hear, hear.) He said they damns. who examined him, that they bad done quite right, must not be satisfied with the consolidation of the depart sad be wished there was similar vigilance in the English manta, bat must reform the whole army, from the Horse camp. The officer, when he discharged him, told him he Guards to the Barrack-house. If at that moment anything might go all through the camp, for every one know he had happened to Lord Enna where, he 'eked, were they to been arrested, and would not object to answer his questions find another general ?It h ad been suggested that they should when they saw him released. He then handed a copy of all borrow one from the French army. How could they expect to his questions; it appeared a gendarmes, dressed as a private, ban a succession of generals, when the list thing they did had followed him, and got the information from every fol. was to debar any man who had talents for command from dim he spoke to. He would take that occasion of saying entering the service unless he lad a large sum of money. that during the whole time he was reading to the men in The price of a lintenantooloneley of cavalry was B,ooof. ; the hospital he beard a word uttered against a single he know an butanes in which it eat 15,0001. The cost of officer, but, on the contrary, expressions of gratitude to obtening a similar station in the infantry was 4,5001. them as honourable to the men as to the officers. The How was It possible for any one but a rich man to enter the house would not be displeased to hear that the army under such circumstances? This was speaking to the officer whose name excited mat enthusiasm was his Royal question ; this was going to the system, which was he Highness the Duke of Cambridge. (" Hear, hear, and maintained , rotten th roughout. For this reason he said it cheers.) He appears even in the din of battle to have won unfair to smiles the Mistake of War on ae found time to ley some hied word, or do pose kind act, count of the faults of a system which that how* to his humble comrades that lived in their recollection. had anctioael and confirmed. He knew it was not If the men spoke well of the Duke of Cambridge, what agreeable to hon. gentlemen to hear them truths; but they attempt could he make to describe their feelings of loyalty had arrived at a wish when these truths ought to be spoken; to the Queen ? He remained in the hospital the whole when, If they wished any reform to take plies in the night after her letter came, and whenever he saw a man English array, they must proceed with a stern band; they restless, or heard two or three talkie', he west and must alter th e system of purchase, and put the whole stiff reed for them, in • low voice, that gracious expression of of the service on a different footing. Now be had entered sympathy. Ho believed that was the happiest night ever upon this subject with some demur. He had been told that spent within the hospital walls. The enthusiasm of the it was not proper for a person in his situation to speak. To men would bars found vent in three cheers for the Queen, his mind it appeared that the safety of their whole army but that the doctors refused to al.ow it, fearing the was at stake—Omar, hear)—and if another army were seat effects of the excitement on some of the patients. forth on the same footing, he did not think it would do any He beard one man saying, " Here's a health to the Queen, better than the present one had dons. It was not Go.i blue her." Perceiving that he was drinking one of those sufficient for soldiers to win battles ' they must also go draughts of bark or preparations of quinine which were through campaigns. Let them look at the disgraceful way given to the patients, he said to him ' Why, my lad, that in which this war bad been conducted. (Great laughter is a hinter draught that you are dri . nking." "So bitter," from the Opposition.) Not by the navy. (Renewed laugh was his reply," that but for then words I could not get it ter.) He imputed no inefficiency to the men. They were the down; with those words I could drink it again." This was victims of a system to which that house was to be blamed for applauded by the men around. Such was the manner in having so long submitted. Why, they were warned of all this which the poor fellows sweetened their medicine. (Cheers) long ago. He would not go back to the Walcheren expni- Nor did he think that their view of the whole state of affairs lion of 1809. What was the Kate of things in the Kaffir differed much from that which was entertained in that war? Regimeate were sent out with nothing but what was hoses. A young man for whom he wrote a letter, after de- called Brown Bess, when even some of the Raffia wore scribing the state of his wounds, and saying that he was ra. armed with improved rifles; and heavy dragoons were pidly recovering, stopped short. He (Mr. Stafford) remarked sent wiser, it was impossible for cavalry to act; to him that the letter seemed a very short one, and asked while in some inatences in which men were armed him if he bad not better say something more. " Well," with rifles the ballots for them were too large for said he, "pleat tell my mother that Sebastopol seems a use. It did not become them to condemn a war minister very fine place, a nation fine place if we could only get in who had been destroyed by the system. The noble lord, it." (Laughter.) Many of the letters which in wrote ex- whose retirement from the government he regretted, pressed deep regret for former errors and misoondut ; sad alluded the other day to the commission of 1837. They had he bad no notion what noble qualities these men possessed been talking for upwards of 18 years of the consolidation of till he lived mid laboured among them. From many of the different beards. In 1818 and 1849 two direct them there ow expressions of humble piety and of sincere motions wen made urging the government of that day to penitential morrow. Unceasing pain, increasing weakness, consolidate this department. The noble lord the member ap death, ell failed to unman those gallant spirits, for the City of London was then at the head of the govern ess it was only when they charged him with their mint, aed that illustrious man, the Duke of Wel last reesseps to those they loved that their voices Hilton ' was at the Horse Guards. When motions faltered. He had seen letters from sisters, mothers, were brought forward there, not only for the and wives cherished and read over and over consolidation of the war departments, but for an again till t he very paper seemed crumbling to pieces; and alteration is the staff, it was hinted that the i n all them exprmodons of tender affection were mingled Duke of Wellingtou . was opposed to any innovation in the with advice to go forth, if possible, and fight for their military system, and no improvement took place. Recently country. Often did the feeling appear'to fora itself on their some of th e train bad been armed with the Minis rifles ; minds, that of what they bad suffered much might have been but be was informed that at that very moment there wen avoided. (Hear, hear.) A brave fellow, who he found three different sorts of arms in the possession of the soldiers afterwards had borne the highest character in his regiment, in the Crimea. The fact was that they would have addressed to him then dreadful words : " Had I been better any reform till they commenced with the Horse Guards ; cared for, I might have gone back to my duty in the field, they must not rest 'stilted with a consolidation of the dif and there I should have been ready to meet a soldier's forgot departments. It was very painful to him to make death, bit England does not care for her army." He then remarks. (Great laughter from the Opposition.) He then tuned his head aside and expired ; and his had, however, a superior duty to perform ;he represented words inflicted on his mind a pang which he could a large coestitneney. It was not the first time that he had sever forget. But England did care far her soldiers. made sub representations to the house, and he made them (Cheers.) Before he read the newspapers, he felt that that now with the most perfect conviction that be was perform ' poor soldier was in error; and since he came back, such ing a sacred duty. He could not resume his seat without was the fooling which he bad found pervading all classes, alluding to the course which was taken by the noble lord that he boldly said that England cared comparatively for on a rasa occasion. (Opposition laughter.) He won little else, and he hoped that announcement would go forth sewed to ono man in that house—(loud laughter)—ln feel ,to these sea tbresgh the spay of that press which some lug the greatest respect, nay, attachment, to the noble had denemeseg. (Hw, Re was not there to yin. lord for his pest services ; and he deplored his loss to the dials the eases of the government with regard to one par- government not only as a national, but as a universal, cab.- 'tied's' reporter and newspaper; or to assert that all that laity. (A laugh.) What nook be the state of I the nowtgepan had printed was true, or that all the corn- feeling at Vienna—what the state of feeling at St. meats Ia them wen wise ; but this he would say, that but Petersburg, on that occasion ? He trembled to think. for the newspapers, the horrors to which he had referred (Renewed oppceitioa laughter.) That might be a subject of weal& aver have been led, and not having been laughter to hon. gentlemen on the other side, but it was revelled. WOW sever have been remedied. no subject of laughter to the people of this country. He mast thaefeew empress his solemn conviction that the (Hear, hear.) He granted that the secession of the pees had on the wade diesbuged an =partitive and sacred noble lord had destroyed her Majesty's government. (Hear ) duty; and its stateessale_geasrally, as to what had been What would be the position of any future government? poising at Bala/clan and Sentari, wore endorsed by his ewe One of extreme difficulty without the noble 'ord. It would experience. It might be mid that the Emperor of Russia be very much in the position of the distracted Boman who knew too much through the peer of this country. The said to his capricious partner, " Non possum vines Won, Emperor of Russia Nog set kftew too much, if he knew IMO din to." (Laughter.) He regretted the chone which all. He malt lure hem this Impish press, that while an the noble lord had taken. He frankly owned that If De automatic government kept the sufferings of its subjects ia had consulted his own feelings he should have got into the dachas. and obscurity, the English plan was to bring such captain's gig and left the crew to weather the storm ; but, thisis le epee daylight, in order that they might be die- bt such an emergency, he felt it his duty to stead by the sessed sal pumped with. (Hear.) He learnt, not from an crew and the eased. (Laughter.) He could not mon asiemerame props bac e l m our o wn , th a t th er e were no lel- cite it to hinielf—wheri Lord Aberdeen bad been dins like English isblien, who went forth of their own free placed in a position in which no minister was will to maintain the benne of their country by flood and over pined before, and when he entertained the field. (Cheers.) no w wr lb. e ven t s o f the l as t th r e e 1104 Sinai* coaviction that that noble lord was meanslid now rembsi nay Mao is the country, and not only a geld liberal, but an honest and good politicise— by all OWNS the l ea at Imes that) night would be (laughter)—he could not consent to desert the noble lord on nadoeslaill Mbe wkelhm the system which had led to such such an occasion. He thanked the house for baying lir lamentable results *all be abolished. (Oppositioa cheers,) teen to what he know to be unpalatable to a great portion west abed" he saw ill repro to the army in the East ? of the mistoency. He had ventured to speak unpalatable A tittle Yee ego that uses unanimously pasted a vote truths, and he must cow leave the motion in the hands of of thanks to them he their gallant conduct. the hones. That was wadi le domed invaluable wale's their Mr. Hirrurr, Major 813211P01D Mr. Muss, Mr. Bur sub/nun tended to prove it a mere mockery, 'IBC!, sad Mr. Rim, defended t he notice ; and Mr. Rice and wileas tDey reined to violate routine in order to save sad Sir F. T. Beams opposed it. : an array. B/ !lionise • plain straightforward coulee that Sir E. B. LYTTON said that the noble lord the member °°""shi give t° the young mattitl the for Londe', who had resigned o ffi ce rather than resist the psalsei eneseropmeat to rally round the flag of their se a m en forthey wail thus say, Stand by ma, and we will Proposed halultri would , the house might take it for stead by yon .' They would also pay the only tribute in granted, vote for it if it were not for the delicacy of his their power to those who were gone down to untimely position towards the cabinet which he bad so lately graves; they would express their earnest sympa th y wi adorned. Beth the Secretary at War and the Secretary sorrowing relatives and survivors ; they would Wn who wore i n aj anos w ith th em , se we ea those cob we ., h ost i le for the Colonies had warned the house of the to them, that the heart of the land woestill bold wed buoyant; danger of the precedent which the proposed com -1 and to those of their own countrymen who yet survived mitts" of inquiry would furnish ; but each an they would give the best pledp that they were sustained apprehension be thought honourable members might and respected, and that when other armies were sent forth to their aid, it should he to imitate them in all but their dismiss hen their minds, for nothing but the extremity of misfortunes. (Cheers.) the ass justified it; and it was to be hoped, for the honour Mr. B. OSBORNE said he did not collect from this in- both ofthe " an " and of humanity , that such en "' Mien tenetiag sad panoramic view so well submitted to the house wo uld never "6" ag ain . (Lon cheers from the appeal by the hoe. palmate who had jest sat down—he did not tic°l If it did act occur again, then the moti° "" la form no preeedent—if it did occur again, a similar motion pair hem the means of his remarks, Of from the comments woul d mo d es th e same i n t er p re t a ti on wh ich: th e ho use p u t Midi le had made en their military system; that he at all epos the Freesia. (Hear, hear.) He agreed with her Ma inbandel le naiads the naval administration as at present jesty's ministers, that they could not seated. the pro enstitated la the obloquy which he bad thrown on the tc"d,,.., "ma i , tte• conduct of the government. Indeed, in the course l ' a ;,l awaso. government ; ▪ wwwkwis• gseMMa now in val of that d'ibat•P bad bee. *** ****ti* his to feel meat had lien such that the house should quietly that, although this bee for facially asessearily bonded ageism, net ally ia the coatiamess of their power bet In the department with whisk he was soeneeted, no honour. the ***** "I* that fralliterahait7 had. b een dis whk gent l eman , however dissatisfied w ith the general on. okapi 1u hit that such ma asenlespeass ea the pert of the base wield be to make its members serene duct of the war, a with the general seadat of the depart- gwa i mies w i t ha l had b on lo s sid m o y ss = 6 ants somata with the war, had made any direct charge by the hes. member bar Horthaespemeddre—assempa ses avast that board over whisk the right hon. hereon, the La the disasters of that noble away of which the member for Carlisle, had presided, as he (Mr. B. Os. fallaq_att r a ilroads sad of whose Seallitioa the govern. bets) thought with semen erodit to himself. sad, he mes a.) "" schmaca ' (14.4 .beg Ina *WC sib') The alga lord the member in the City et west mald, with so such 'Gaieties to the country. (Hear, waw a not mob hi mse lf ti th e someeg a m de tem o ill. pi a ham) Why, eves the discursive and somewhat splenetic that he must have felt In deartieg - his albums in the gaillsola the learned member for Aylesbury (lfr. Lewd) hour of their extresest need bust tire bias um fatale: , who led seturasd from his aloselling in the Crimea, with We to ea tegeat : 1 1 :hdriti _lll GM Ph B. 11 0 61 4 gave sesta WA same et his own kawiedge of both nav a l and him the *** ise_ _MO Pia on sweat of salsa Main, cad wits was so anspariag and amphibious the tardy *IA* with eulla 118.160Dskid It fa hi hi idgeks, both by land and water, that he detracted ter.) On the aide of the house in which he (be hoe. bare- net) jat i fy i alt not the same aosatervailing maples atria heighed upon a cabinet minister, the !aides. organ tit the cabinet, in standing alone in his abandonment of office. But they had strong feelings for the calamities the public had sustained, sad for the losses which individually they had had to deplore. (Closers) He had lost two young relations in the course of the pews% watt, and than were thousands more who wus that position. Alittosour to the gentlemen of some of their kindred blood was flowing and' to low; and would the house consent to be deterred, after the account, which they had beard that night from the hon. member for Northamptonshire, from seeking for a remedy for those evils the government had admitted, and froth inquiring iota the abases which they deplored en se count of some paltry technical objection to the words of the motioa which alone could afford any redress. (Hear, hear.) If the propmed Inquiry involved a vote of censure, then let it be taken as a vote of censure. (Loud cheers from the opposition.) Lai' be that precedent to other times, if there should be sack grievous mismanagement under any other administration. It wu quite unite for him to enter into those detail. upon which the tary at Wu desired to rest the ease, for he wished to bring before the house the broad principles of the charges made against the government. The case against her Majesty's government was not that they had entered into hostilities, but that they had done so without grave deliberation. They had entered into the most arduous enterprise which this generation had witnewed with the most utter ignor ance of the power and resources of Russia, of the nature of the country their troops were about to eater, and of the supplies their armies would require; and this was the more inexcusable,thasnanch as the government disdained to recur to the meet easily attainable MIAMI of information. He (the hon. baronet) complained that twice in the same campaign the government exposed the army to two pestilential situa tions ; and what other cause need they allege for the dis asters which had befallen our troops than those two cogent reasons. The causes were to be found in the pestilential situations in which the army was exposed, and In the destitution in which the men were left ; and he thought the failure that had been experienced became worse from the excuses the government made for their conduct— namely, that the officers were not accustomed to the priva tions they had to endure, and that the soldiers were not inured to the climate to which they were ex posed. (" Hear, hear," from the Opposition.) The Secretary at War directed nearly the whole of his speech to show that where blunders had occurred or omissions had been made, he had hastened to repair them, and there might be some reason for the excuse, but it was the dirty of the government to foresee these things, to provide beforehand for all that might be wanted, and not to wait until the coaeequences of their neglect defied reparation. (Cheers.) They could not repair constitutions that were ruined for ever, because they had exposed men to disease without medical assistance—exposed them to the horrors of a dismal climate without roofs to cover or food to sustain them. (Loud cheers.) Did they 'not know that in the summer the Crimea was ex posed to great clouds of dust, and that thou clouds of duet were converted into mad in the winter? Were they not aware that Lord Raglan, after the battle of Alms, wrote that "he could wish he had rune men." (lieu.) When they knew that the men were dying by disease from the want of a road, why did they wait for the offer of Mr. l'eto ? The right hon. gentleman 'aid that the government ought not to be blamed for the winds, and the rains, and tte storms. But they ought to be blamed for not taking pains to protect the men from the effects of the climate, and ob viating, D the appliance' of art, the hostile operations of nature. Hear, hear.) When the winter was oome every wise man 'shooed hie coat, but it would seem the ;govern ment wanted the foresight to provide against the most ordi nary phenomena. (lieu.) He was glad that no attempt was made to throw the blame on the generals. No man of spirit would attack the absent agents when they had before them face to face the directors who were responsible for the errors committed. No, Lord Raglan was not to blame. What Lord Grenville said of the Walcheren expedition might be applied to the present case. He said that the general did what could be expected of him ; but the go vernment, which had chosen the period for the expedition, and sent it out without proper information or plan, were, the parties to be blamed. That exactly applied to the pre sent case also. They were told that the Minister of War was not to blame, but that the organisation of the depart ment was not complete. But who were responsible for its incompleteness except the government ? (Hear, hear.) But the government throughout were guilty of the cardinal sin of short-sighted incompetence. Even with regard to the two measures which they passed before Christmas, one was not yet put in operation, and the other remained a dead letter. (Hear.) They had not taken the precaution to inquire how the Foreign Enlist ment Bill would be received in Germany. Even in his despatch of that day, Lord Raglan complained of the want of means for the conveyance of the huts. The noble lord's resignation told them pretty plainly what should have been done, whilst the speech of the hon. member for Middlesex showed that if he lost a place he found a con stituency. (Cheers.) The hon. member who had just spoken taxed his right hon. friend tt e member for Mid burst with saying that the present government existed on the principle of a coalition. He agreed with him in the historical part of his argument. Many of their most powerful administrations bad been coali• tion administrations. That was the case with Mr. Pitt's administration, who first ejected Mr. Addington and then coalesced with his opponents. (Hear.) But the house would agree with him in respect of coalition governments that one of the elements of such a government wss that its members should coalesce. (Laughter.) But that clement was wanting in the cue of the present government. (Hear, hear.) There was a union of party interests, but there was no coalition of party, sentiment, and feeling. (Hear, hear ) Lord Chesterfield remarked, when a man of obscure family married the daughter of a lady who had a large number of not unsuooesaful admirers, that " nobody's an married everybody's daughter." (Laughter.) So he said of the present government, that everybody', principles had united with ;nobody's opinions. It was at last intimated that the noble lord who was now in a transition state, bat who was already illustrious as the member for Tiverton, was now likely to receive that appointment, which if made some months ago would have satisfied the country, and probably saved the government. (Hear, bear.) It was now "too late." and the greatest danger to which he was exposed was the armed neutrality of his unsuccessful advocate, but still "noble friend." ( Cheers.) The noble lord (Russell) was pleased on Fairly night, not very triumphantly, to end to vindicate the whigs from the charge of ex elusiveness, and the solitary instance he quoted in proof of that was the magnanimity of the present whigs in consenting to that partition of power which was now at an end. (Laughter.) It appeared to him that the magna nimity amounted to this, that when the whigs could not get all the power, they reluctantly consented to ace ept apart. (Cheers and laughter.) If, when he asked himself why the whig government had received the support of the large and respectable body of independent liberals, he found the reason to be this, that from the memory.of former contests, which were now at an end, they supposed that whilst the rest of Ragland was advancing there was one party which was always for standing still. And, thus misled, they were content to leave the government of the country in the hands of a small hereditary body of great families, who assumed a fictitious monopoly of liberal policy. (Cheers.) It was his belief that others were u fully alive to the neces sity of wise public measures, of steadfast progress, and with as much sympathy for free and enlightened institutions, as any of those great whip, who were alwsys democrats in opposition and monopolists in office. (Loud cheers.) H. believed it was matter of perfect indifference to the mass of the people who were the men in office now, provided those to whom the honour and safety of the country were com mitted corned on the government with spirit, and hastened with relief to our suffering arm} . (Hear.) It had been said that all our preceding wan comn'enced with lees and disaster. If that were the proper for historical disquisition, he would deny that view of the mac (Hear.) But assuming this to be correct, how did they correct the blunders made He remembered a ease in point. In the last cen tory there was a Doke of Newcastle who presided over the department of war, who was supported by a powerful league of whip. (Hear, hear.) Serious blunders and dis asters occurred at that time. An attempt was made to patch up that luckless administration, to infuses few drops of new blood into that feeble, decrepid, and tottering admi nistration; bat the people became so disgusted that they be came irres istible—they applied the remedy—diunissed their ministry, and saved their army. (Lind opposition cheers.) each a frightful extent has, by the lest a eie - 1 7 ----- --''''` 1 i. i l l antooodotaathb:::ahinin :eies i anateves e rades i i g tafow h obowr t pahtu d taiiih i citco mi ,hcarbaail e somt u aiwwp t: asia o dty n ,hea : utf.disb:yonat l saptht m olati a taisa y ehltunioso alse gmfalthoosoLnutebrire,esaiar ,; tdrzi ei : : _t hi,,,.... .:1_,...h0tn: Are arrived ; and it was the estimate of the retell:l-ft/ oed. public spirited men entrusted with its constructiai e t e ll- a - , i ;', will be completed within three weeks after bein g ---. 4 meat state of things is that an arrangement wh i c h the keell` ' by the efforts of the generals, and General Can tent bee t e h.."'" rather to apply to the discharge of dotise i - I: which Lord Raglan had before to peaa•d e - ,•mt • force of French troop, as will diminish ' by ran the number of English constantly in the trenches l ' (... /1 .. and cheers.) Of course sixteen hundred does not se k . es; rately represent the amount of relief. I apprehend I ma -- wrong in saying that the arrangement now effected ' 11 ; WAWA to an addition of four or five thousand health: ' appointed troop' to the British army. me m . b;.' 141 .7 hope, sir, the house will not think that I state these - 1,4 with • view to cancel the statements already made , bat wish to place the facts clearly before it ere it pas: - . 1 . - ; ._ - " portant judgment. Now, sir, with respect to the re am e... "-- • I of the army, that is a question to which I think degeek--" to refer, for undoubtedly the statements that go t abez7 a . so fallacious that calamities, in themselves great and -' are magnified so as to go far beyond their just ' England, and that 12,009 bayonets is now thew! . hale ek. pueblo force. This, at all events, is a matter of feet x a . fares fresh from this country, wit hou t mis e in military duties before Sebastopol, excluding all e liaaa - ' - .. close. marines fi tt t a t ih de s , CI (11) 1 Is e iu x ceo a kg aCtWlbtesi lis t e r int e t dh t aal u kat naval il! n ioßec a A tyf , sb been (eabon: tratatt told dies F lyzae n enutbhe l dbm v bafe a naval eoteerlha'S r w r te i ef g thbl a fie , men ul 1 5 Idrgmee;etiP Seb astopol et: b g twitt i o a iset t ir n lan e : iii,ll:Tuehl an d : si r z ° s . 6 41:7125-1- 7:1 " . 28,300 men under arms or on active service. The e ta -- te. -- , ment that the army consisted only of 12,000 m en e aa 1 .,.. ---- abroad, and has been received as if it was as mesas geed -indeed, I may say, it his been received as gospel- for /le; terday heard one of our moat meritorious clergymen ' a large congregation that the army was represented by see: third of its numbers. We are not,} sir driven to the le s leneholy conclusion that the army of all we new Lave to answer is the formation of the arm el to be th e a n etrtee d '65. There have been, Sir, some calamities, many fa many glorious circumstances, and, in some cases, the of Providence has descended on us in a way we cookie* expect ; our best hope, have any tender feelings have been wounded, but we are not to the conclusion that the gallant army which left time I shores last year,-the finest army that ever left Eaglaae, 1 we are not brought to the conclusion that that RMY ill numbered amongst the things that have payed. I hive LI case in st a r, t th ha a t t l m do an n n o e t r, me b a u n t • to which I must of military affairs are in the habit of forming din: jade. menu by comparison ; and when they come to contider As French camp and its arrangements, they are apt to dem, . inferences highly unfavourable to those engaged in lug ours . I am far from wishing to detract from the ' organisation and perfection of military arrangenatet, • ; many in all that concerns the supplying the wants I soldier, that distinguish our gallant allies. I Wailes, I are many imperfections. I do not complain of dream. parison; but I put it to the house-suppose I should byte r a e e p t a l *n t . o yi i n fi g ete s e z t dPe' ci , ' a l i o" ! t o im pois establish that there were tome material points is 'hid tin ' British army was superior to the French, would they'd think it unjustifiable ofme to make that statement hammer, • of my ease 1 The subject is one on which I will not enter-I I merely mention it as a reason for circumspection in decide! f on this matter. The cue is one which deserves the attendee i of the house, and it ought to render every assistant to ay i government to improve the state of things. I accede to the fairness of the picture drawn by my noble friend the IMP I her for the City of London ; but I trust that improvemeet 1 has begun ; much labour has been lost. I admit there is • much in the arrangements for the government of the may i that calls for amendment ; I admit that in some important I particulars they are so defective that the accounts remind • may be calledon the language of my noble friend, "honihle ' and heart-rending." Now, sir, if that be a f a i r out li ne o f • the state of the army, next comes the question what is the I cause of that state? I apprehend our first duty is tom* a separation of those evils that are the necessary attar& r ants of entering into war, from those faults sal I miseries which human care might have avoided. Now, ' sit, so far as these evils are unavoidable, I am set here to defend. I must say that some gentlemen make m unfair estimate of what these unavoidable evils are. The right hon. gentlemen the member for Oxfordshire says that the providing for an army three thousand miles &walk' nothing at all; it was only the obs'inacy of some members of the government which prevented them from asking fte advice in certain quarters - if that advice had been tam every man would have hid his breakfast at nine o'clock regularly-I thought he was going to say he would have the Times along with ft. (Laughter.) The right hon. gen- Semen in that respect has not taken a fair or just view of the case. Let us see whet was unavoidable. The right bon. gentleman made one observation for which I mean to tax him. (Laughter.) I used the word " tax" anon &crossly. he right hors. gentleman appears to think that supplies were withheld from the army, and that the war was, se it were, starred from motives of economy. Now, sir, it may be unpopular to speak of economy at this moment ; but it is my duty, if no o ne else's; and I do not think there could be any period at which it would be unfitting the government of this country and the representatives of the people to study economy. So far, however, from economy being the prevailing spirit, I feat we are rather open to the charge of being driven to profs sion in attempting to mitiga , e these evils. I hope the house will suspend its judgment on this point till I, or some more worthy person in my place, will have to submit to them a proposal connected with the financial arrangements for the coming year, and give an account foe the put. But I do not believe that parliament is liable to the charge of having, by its parsimony, rendered our military service ineffective. I can not believe that in time of peace; fourteen millions a year is not enough to provide means of defence. There may hue been ill'judged parsimony in some instances, but the fault has generally been a different one. It would be unjust to the parliament and to the people of England to allow the charge to pass without an answer. So much, sir, for eco nomy. The hon. baronet who has just sat down took ca himself to criticise the policy of the government on the att thority of the letter of a young officer whose letters he quotes. He says we should never have gone to Sebastopol, because the climate is so pestilential as to be certain ruiner any army ; and he refers us to " M'Culloch's Dictionary." 1 have not seen the passage, but I am sure it must state that the climate of the Crimea is very different in different parts. Tthere is nothing in the climate of the *Guth to prevent its becoming the .cene of military operation.. Is truth no army can be carried into a distant country withoei great risk, not only from climate, but from the dangers inseparable from military service. The right boa gentle man the member for Oxfordshire condemns the goner ment for not having bombarded Odessa. Suppose the house adopt that view, and pus a vote of censure on us for not having done so, and suppose it afterwards appear that the government, having considered that subject, bad re fined to the commanders on the step, who hap decided against it, what will be the effect of your vote of censure ? We are told Odessa would have made good winter quarters. Why it is an open town, saw Bible on any side. With an army of three hundred thousand men within easy reach of it, what would be the Lonaition of our army there ? The hon. baronet tells us we sent to Spain and Egypt for mules, when we ought to have got them at Gallipoli. I am sure the member for Aylesbury will not back that charge. Why, Gallipoli is a small place, not even a port. I suppose its whole traffic does not occupy twenty mules. The hon. member for Aylesbury stated a few night ago that means of transport had not bees collected even at Varna. Such is not the fact, at that time over five thousand baggage animals, horses and melee, had been collected. An honourable member this evening complained we Carried three horses for the Times correspondent, while we tarried only one for the officers ; a few nights ago the charge was that we had made the officers carry horses which they did not want. I will venture, air, to leave the hon. baronet and his military ' criticism. I will now address a few words, in the , first place with respect to .alleged shortcomings of my ' unable friend the Minister of War, and the deficiencies mad neglect on the part of the administration of the war department at home, and on the 'part of those charged with the discharge of similar duties in the Crimes. As regards the administration of the war department hers, and its actual state, it is admitted on all hands to be defers. tive. (Hear, hear.) But it is not admitted that nothing has been done to cure those defects ; or, on the other hand, that they are so defective as to deserve the censure of this house. Your war department here may be in a very ins , perfect state compared with the war department of France, which has had a standing war, carried on by 00,000 or 80,000 men, within the last twenty-five years. But I be lieve it is the opiniea of military men that the perform ances of your war department are in no degree inferior to what they were at the close of the last war ; but surely it is something to have lost practice for years. The right hon. member for Oxfordshire (Mr. Henley) says-" You sent al army to the East, and you sent it unprovided with necessaries." That is a very intelligible charge; and if there were a grain of truth in it, he might carry any vote he pleased in the house with regard to the government. But I beg entirely to join brae with him; and instead of admitting that the army has been sent untrovided with necessaries, 1 will refer to the fair and candid statement with w hich the hon. sad learned member for Sheffield opened this debate, when he mid," You have sent an army to the East in numbers and la efficiency such as never quitted these shores before, and em army likewise unequalled in its equipments." He weal ea to say that upon the shores of the port of Balaklava there were rotting stores of every possible description, sufficient , hispovide for the wants of two such armies. (Hurl I les&ve that statement to have been, perhaps in some poiats Woad, but, upon the whole, not very far from the truth. • tholes that is an answer as far as regards the charge that, Ibis army has been sent from England unguided. with necessaries. But if you intend to censure the' military departments, then it will recoil on the getup-' meats who have held office successively in this country, sod upon the parliaments whims ecesfidenere they have enjoyed. - But I do not think it is the military d ep artments; it is . my noble friend the Secretary of State for War upon wilmehua you propose to discharge your vengeance. Now,=ers are states of opinion with which it Le vain to con There are duties which it is beyond the power of man ea*. factorily to discharge. I imams, it is my ow* The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed that the motion then presented involved several questions of the highest importance influencing at once the existence of the ministry, the fate Of the army, and the duty which the house essumed as the judge of official conduct and the source of political action. ,With regard to the position, past and present, of the government, Mr. Gladstone en tered into many details, recapitulating the principal facts stated in the explanations offered by Lord John Russell, adding some new particulars which led to the inference I that, up to the very night when parliament re-useen , bled, the other members of the government had cause to believe that the objections once entertainedZ the late President of the Council to the war a nietration had been altogether withdrawn. He continued Well, now, sir, so much for the state of the govern ment ; bat there is another question, for more important in the view of all—that is the state of the army in the Crimea. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Sir, it is net only the state of the army that the house has to madder, bat it must also consider the means of applying a reniody. I do not mean, sir, to attempt to attenuate or weaken the interest felt in the house and country with regard to the condition of the army; it would be to do violence to the nature of Englishmen ; truth, it is the absorbing question of the day ; and when the hon. member for Northampton said that all Englishmen cared for the army, he might have added that they seemed to care for nothing else. For my part I would not oppose any impediment to the so- Son if it could be shown that it would contribute a jot or tittle to the benefit of the army. (Hear, hear.) Now, air, what is the actual 'sedition of that army ? Here it is our duty to lay aside ear feelings, for we came to a very dif forgot operatics, the appeoelation of evidence ' • the evidence on which we base ear notion of that condition is that of the publi t atbo, which is derived from persona who must see ;el from • certain point of view. I will not now bow iamb of that might have been avoided. I will 'begun to hope that the evils are In coons of dimi. maths. I will MU one es two main notate. What is their swains at Shia inemeat ? The public is aware that large gaaatitfee of warm sleeking have been vest ant it is note in the posesidon of every man; there may be individual exceptions ; but Lord Raglan's statement must be eabetantlally s ane s t —the hate have arrived and are in the course of being sleeted ; the sicknes which prevailed to nth (HI and this that that) nevii Lord ] it. 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