The Express. — London, England, 1855-03-17 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. MOUSE OF LORDS.—FIIDAY. MARCH 16. Their Isedships assembled shortly after 4 °Wreak. ROYAL ABSENT. The royal avant was even by isisesinien to the Mew. fag We, via :—The Entemear Bills (17,183,00014 MU; the Nausea Law Freeedure (belied) Bid ; the Hatay Bill ; the Marine Modal Bill; the Teams na Dallas Seepfa eine Bill ; sod the Ihentaries Under ihewitarise et But. (Howe of Cosiness) Bill . TIM Leeds thamiesiesers the Ler& Chaneeller, Loa fltaaley of Marley, and Lord Kentellem NEWSPAPER STAMP RETURNS. Oa the motion of Lord MONTIAOLI Mara Waa et the somber of sewevapa wasps hewed he the y smiles 6th at Jaseary, MM. THE TRANSPORT OF llOll.llll. The Rail et ALEN/ARlACismedic Deloato lased a ilbeessiea reepeedwi the larepeit bora by eteeesers. Lard Pansies. the led et Lucas. sad the et CAIIIISIDOIKatersa tats seas Isaacs' detail* ea the jets. The natures were thee eviered. CRIMINAL JURISDICTION BILL. Oa the Iselin Leed Bauman. til• bill was rad Wed tiasse=troddiusa Sao Hausa, 'misdeal by the Lea The Reel etWICILf:IST staked that by the 6th alma the preseediase were ee be dosed by the justices assent. Is bean* the paella areo he the amities magistrate to eism allhearsisasi Gad be maideeed that this was a pa baba pada, heist %basin that the Hasse @Meld be ahead wasdikagty. The LORD CHANCELLOR masted to the alteration. TM Bart of W ICKLOW thought that the 10th sada pre seembe pima =salary swamies shish wild to be sainel. This be very lameneaiest ia Woad, road he theeehee awed that the weeds sealleviag that pewee be eintapil. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that wallythis 1111 erne ale .by adei se Nhe to liasteaL It Wilma bees salesiell hilies6 the reeesiwowleass et wells arils seateasil with that meshy. This vMS eismat is, the hot to wad rei the gi able seat esheisi—as , that WWII kip pewees aves maglatesse shish amid sat week is lea to sed; Se She Lied Chemsellee) oda .....wed with the view of the with sort, ad We► Lee ..snail to the esseadreat as proposed. Attar a few seeds treat Lord Basiessam, the bill won them awed. COMMONS ENCLOSURE BILL. This bill was real a sassed Sae. FAST DAT. Oa the meths et Berl 131111111.L11. ft was resolved that the Bishop et Salisbury be regulated te mash beton the boons aS Wostabsster Abbey apes Wednesday east, being the day appaiated foe a feet sad humiliation. The hew adjourned at a garter to einem HOUSE OF r, Kacs 16. The boas sat at 4 o'clock. iirspi liii7O - S•ii NEW MEMBER. Mod gel Sep theca passel at ilea ea saniella limed Mr. gloom, is Me Inland, task the for *emir, or taw Te Ible board be wag MIMI all oaths sad his seat on Ids reolseeims he Athlone. the the monsamiat a imi be &WI iene ethibilet alert he be bill bead - that glum of einalle, heel PRIVATE 11111133111111. Taunt Rut:trios.-- Coaling. ,Pu y sad Town d i lls ._ ‘ "l"aka kmio lF l 7 7 l , seasi ollossa " loa volik a a eilL er tae Plar• Water Bill, Over Dawes Oes Illa, Fahey Gas Bill. law, sad ' a r w d` n " as f a , * eapatemse meat, t bola= W pm Tamales Gas Bill, and Weelwhik Canellinale Protective resieleassE ismodaass oa woos go new Gas Bill. eat i Ifs Math if genehmu but an NOTICE OF MOTION. end en Mil te fie *shanty. (Hear, bettl ill a EDUCATION OP PAUPER CHILDREN. lowleir mi lleansedent of the poor-law, be proposed that Mr. S. DEN IKON said he had a Mice for law a Wag * a a g mat h a „ of the hoard should be a in a bill a promeas the idealise of tire althea of poses a fir mum ; and h a a h a dd la m b, odaaa,a that mint reithille." .•ll eelarit but ma" .Ile Paradeba= le " a• ..tee of the MOM amid be se o'iliiiiiembimp. the masa of the WOWS, be wall posthoma bis he TM d h as **wo k em u hada paw* aa ** a wee. sobs* wMa they were Deanery, sad to THE UNFUNDED DEBT. toed ate aimed eduesties of the distrist Ith s = Sir H. WILLOUGHBY gave nodes this on goiag into oho papal gat it Amid have at ~,,L4,..::::: anmittee of supply he than all invades to the state el h id d i m d and IleMs y M his s e si w the itafemied debt. gaga sf wMlfse it wail be possible nothmithly to sm. THE MEDICAL ARRANGEMENTS IN TEE EAST. game ehe elegainut eg the awry ore the yollwasswy m o m p Ms. STAFFORD postponed the motion of whisk be dad He both beslowed mar awn& epos this eilasol. and be lino wigs% with reamed to the medial sosillsoolts for bad ear at the someinain that no mare they know of the the Ask and wwaMd edgers in the East, until Meade, matter *ewers it beseme obviate that it was not. (Hear, aut. hear.) They sag w sere ideate the whale of the ample LONDON CEMETERIES. of this esmatry then that they weld carry ma great war Mr. H. BERKELEY begged to ask the Secretary of State e pee the abase, pe Wpm. (anew) The gead ageget far the Home Depertareat, whether be wee awan tkat at ins one end all, entertained simile, views. Every seamy of the esseteria ia the east of Leedom, far lastines hoe. somber was no doubt in the daily receipt of begging Raidey's Grand, Bakal Green, Saint James the Less, letters, sating forth that schools were waled hr the par pinkest Green, sad the Vlach Park Cemetery, th ey wets *War tibiae, bet that it was tee peer to apply Men. bibs dal, PLOW of WOW wool hallo is coo licaao, He bad broaribt down with la the bet sashimi be bad and de notamply with the magus= en which they have resolved. (A laugh.) It was with rehresos to the Ake hem alliesed to Isaias, ad that aearly all the case- district at Sheffield. Now what had be (the r ight M.. aim b the of Loathe still adopt the system baronet), be should like to kw, to do with Nagai ? of piffbadal ; Übe wee aware of this, whether he mast (Haar.) The theater said that the 4 ' local names are to penes it ? few afar scanty." Bat he malatanth that they se& to be Mg GREY said he wee set aware whether the loathe neither the sae sop the other ; sad art the casaba ought of what was called pit-burial was is meal um is the to be able to apply all its own edemehmal wean. (Hear, ansteries sear London. A spathe statement bad been hear.) It was really diereditable S. the treaatty to have made to him with regard to feu ormeteries, three of these begging lotus anstaatly_ cireabileg is every put whisk were named, in the gaietie s of the dower- of the kligdont. (Chas.) Mr. leassiy, sae of the able patinas, sad the other was Abney Park Ct. ached isspecton, had ream& "BMW Moe very loge. eatery. Aa inspector had beep adored to report mot remarks oa this ablest sod the ansinim to with regard to the accuracy of the automat, sad his report which be is.. was, that all the is UiL s, of with they bad bees received. It appeared that Visteria Park sad bad • right to camellia was treatable a a yea of la& Abney Park eemeteria were szempted from the operaticia Mr. Kennedy forcibly pointed out the diffienlty of Iteraing of the Banal Act, being two of the emoted's that were up a regular school fund, the harassing and amatiews eser placed in schedule B. and the Secretary of State had so doss which lite task demanded, and the evils of latheat power to order s limitation if burial., or to have them die- lag resarees; and he declared, that general speaking, eatiased. It was different with regard to the other two. schools, vibes established, did not flourish. ( ear, bear.) With reference to Keldey's Ground it appeared that there The anis maser, therefore, in which schools could be had been sou. irregularities, but they were alight, and the oraistabod has Mate of ellisioney sad utefehress, was by a neon was favourable to that cemetery. It was ' however, rate; ha lie gaga that 1M rate ought to be amtsted u ander an order for closing, and would be closed now hp gown hem the Omatidated Fond. He proposed, is • few months. With regard to fit. James therthere, that 11 every ease where a locality rabid a mir es Lae, Bethnal Gina the report stated that great i ne . tan sum by rates, the public foods should open'. galaritise bad occurred ' there, sad though no order for buts to in aid in a fixed proportion. (Hear, hear.) sissies had been brad, the order in comseil bad beta en- He the maintained that the education to be given ought to tinily &regarded, sod he had gives direr:awe, which be be free, and he paposed that all the new schools to be hoped would prevent the catiromaes of the ninth, abuses. established sada the powers of this bill should be free THE SIXTH REGIMENT AND THE COMMON schools. (Hear, ham) He proposed, likewise, that when MUSKET. echelon were sent to existing schools there should be as Mr. HORSF ALL begged to ask the trader eserstary charge foe their educatloa. This was a point upon tibia f ew W as , whether i t was a f ac t t h a t th e Bth g og i otaet o f there would, no doubt, be great difference of opinion, but Foot, sow wider orders for the Caps, were about to be sent the more he studied it the lees faith had he in the reasons out with se other &retook than the old Brows Bess ? which were tessally adducted es the other Ade. The argil- Mr. PEEL said that the 6tb Regiment was at sada seat whisk was usually hotaffht What foe schools was Mdse for the Cape, hang beep already is that essay that the poor did not nine ideation sues they paid for he several pan, sad it was amid with the old pereasien it. (Hear, bear.) Bat that was a* natiee, sot only un gasket. • detachment of the regiment was about to be hed ead In itself, but entirely contrary to human nature. seat at, sad it would be armed with the same warm. What good *Mg was it, he should like to know, that people were net glad of when they could SOLDIERS' WIVES IN THE EAST. get it for trotting (Hear, Isar.) If he offered one of Mr. KINNAIRD begged to ask the Under his labourers a cottage rent free, sad that oaten was a for War if "y " der had he " se " , either to :L a = 100 d gas, would he not be too happy to take it ? Ir; Weed, sale or to Scutari, to send bona those soldiers' wives t h e witted , won i s rains and the new were as industrious where "”" a _ i were not required """es or lalwaraso ; one, be could quite aderateeti his ening. " Thank you, also, i f any s aws ha ve bees takes to timid* proper sir; lam very ash Alga to pen, hat I would fader sooommodatios is the barracks about to be erected at pay rest for a g ad ewe. (H eow . u m ) A s a thi s w ee . Dover and elsewhere for the wives of soldiers who are per- trades really iced the sane of the aroma idea milted to marry ? whisk he was •embsttiaq. There were two meow why Mr. PEEL was set aware that say ease hag bees amt t h e ass , swa y e d a s s o little I t o* by fr ee edss tre e . eat, giesales thoesigars* wives at CcmeaMtheple ebbe eat Ire t io -- am b oo o g ooo d ow woo now meetly sooo l ootod lone. Ey Ca rules ad the lonia qb wawa was Metre& w i t h ahhowwgmleeiu , the greater part of whisk were of a to ge with mg esompay alga, la with the lege e.t to very bom b ; and is the mead, it was gene the 1144 esly three " ma had ad id aah, Il e " "at With rally ameolithil ii = idea of pauperism. (Hess, bear.) = d aathe - de l ea ak lha g dadllareaseea t" waleeelkwala he If goy nested oohed pesos, there would be come somas to go out wig them With also to the latter w h o *w ig h a e5l S. pay them, and thoug h thew wow =FL/kith' tombs, be hod to soy that se pies he the *h u e that egg s the inmost they were apes te de siDau hod yet beta settled. so, aa isallowe gimbals& was set up. (Hear, beer.) THE BUDGET. B u t apes this sedan be would all the sands ; of the Sir H. WILLOUGHBY Madrid whether the Chiseller boas* to what MI taken place in Asada. Is 1835 the of the Insbuiser iateaded to make his flasaelal statement state of educating in Philadelphia wee very similar to that • began Besterl whia be had been tamale* to dismal, se satin in • Tbe CRANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Far several Reglad. The free @shah win if sag Winer dimmer, ammo. sae of which is the period at whisk the !Masada sad the great majority of the impostable dames semi their pee sew termisates„ Ide act repose to make the dais- children to private salmis. Tasman walla the amber all stMement until after Easter. of children attesding the free creels tisnagbent the whole LAW OF LIMITED LIABILITY. state was only 9,348. Bat • arse afterierde took place. Mr. FRENCH said that the late President of the Board The semis were_ pu t alma ea elairelY Maga Iletleg, st Timis bung twice istaaled Ws images et blether sea loathed of b ein g very larschwt they Wean leg nee troseatelse establishai Embed Egg, is smog door gismo a belesege. The private abash trees almost he hogged to ask the sale leg se tic heel g wag* aspongeg, and the number of tree Widen is the preentatest whether, la the sweet of the noille lied INS was so fewer than KM, which is 11H/ MI 1289 111021 bft usable to obtain a Vie-Preritioat a tbe Eng of to OM& (Hao) Is *ad was the mew aid* Trade is that hoar be or say othet maths, d the ge. Sonoma ismeediately agar the easels gee ameba a annum would intr oduce Bab a bill? their pewee .hunks, sa gigs era te the sake labile I Lord PALER affroN—l shall angrily Wise heath I s Xi* Yeah *a Velem if am "Mill a " II " Ilassis eseli a bill. hog been pot to the vote a the eabe seg o;= THE ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET. and a t e l b re ss tair Melded, by ea easetheirefog get Ooptala DUNCOMBE awaked whether it woe handed and *. daw toeuellimagh=fiedile few' athemi tilis lbe l lblie selinif ashoth—a Se Impala es Admiral of the Fleet? • Ur 0. WOOD said that the ogee ',Admiral el go Pilot a ' nbig IA" W des I. I. se wilds = ethe at es Abe of cane, *me mom h y * a „ mem ad don. ( Hear, beer.) Is Austria and Hollemil Me bin. anA gallant umber, bat it aerrespended Who a ..... a1e as t a jg ,fr o : woo s e i alid thlaursele ill" fa ti w tbe ed osaby thsk lialign marimel " ask a lield-marshal la the mem ad there might be Nub a a._ -- " i r thessolliers of that nth, MA einsiehes sea. It wee see "-- -the i Pill"." ill 'Weft PBBB. helm 11""klia. lettsded at present to nommen' th e -...- a lb gab we tree that la some pima the free wig ap ir ...gest ill Athdral of the Flees gig sot weak bet eves is Mae stearin the educe ties a a math repent= of the dada& wee gratuitous. STAMPED EN VELOPIIII.—THE LETI'EII.. Still the house wield see that if shot woes gated a CALMS& great prestial thainalty yogi arias, Mr. T. DUNCOMBE bawd. es Miss he &Hare- Lamely, where to draw the Use lavas them pr ams of the house, to ask the leeway et ibe T , seas she were, sad those who were eat, to pa.y. Viet it he likely that the glib tall be elle to (Haar, hear.) It was set N. (Sir J. Pakipften s) =sheets °teapot end prima eseargea for hares iatostiim la say iseleses to Warfare with the eagles by pra ; also to soli mumbles te the bet, get shse, lie sehools. They mg sit Ices sight of the progress wig* Issoiss. ea the peat a the espsisisi. that Ss mew amain had alma really made. (Haar, bear.) With eisithallens ansthood a the roam es the PmA4ga t mg a pea del gel was defective a the sahebs aushisery, Ea age better 'enters edge metrepoile, shield he sgeobly it geld alga he Vim sec t, to to desy that great carried Ost, NMI* safidalisti i sag hoseeelest autism hod WU* bees smie es What Mr. WILSON said that the gist gages related le a of obeesies, and that tbe isoirsedos ileadabst le = mar edema impormase to the glib, asd he wet gig gime woe eassedbey geed. (Ear. heat.) He le have as egpitemily et wishes at as Then bog foss ea therefore ietederts with ethane mega& It goad be a gems Mae es the pat elf g o zproblie to be mega to gaped wish the smeogers a every eartieg easel to de lla& le ileasnet Ham se be shaped mg whether the woad se wall ea ems bee glom with wig sage amps; he t wast i =rwbettew, wader the egesabsel - boa? It they Mitometeed ma to de so, tbe ail oseedffshieg the poesy post, may me ld be they well tomb pride* ea they we. Eves V they and seem* get wig a Ong data es abasing gelitid the OM. :ate the mite et the rate hi scal *lle seL The gmammest had tag of OS sal alga *lad, ra _ .thell is i i =e,. _ _cm Its Aw n s d a d y ems. sad they h i d ma w t h at t wo sea dhg ew e a se le he quite Use se err goesestiis mad be used, oat the Treasery had was that they eimeld-alait . tie abet to a peingbal OM emit soft to the Booed et Wag inesse at ego te end adellisloraVrel eked the law doh they *add NNW eed==. Iml he ha to-day agora gis Mgt ee the hlll with Mote at meter alma geoperais to be age brag bolimeliem this beteg tt him to the meet impirteet gages. Who, beam% ha egg that S a illigeflll et th to quake of ali. Ober, peer.) He would sae hit egisisme, aim e d esedges pia/ lie= the bet awry meek, tee ea this inigeot with sorbet rag hoses , ad he weld game besie weld me get it weld suss time le the , _Pee ask GM Mess gabs the &wild awed gip w =N wareskiey base 11• at shed bens had delftware& to &pia dirt ma dement se the poll& The Deer& a imbed Raga MN a. _ • eleell Maid that is mee amigo "hey add hearty 6 rams it .pd =si& ( s'St imi _ ea ry i laps leg andsposibesesigiso limo avian th~ goer 'swiss is this eswelry; .llse he e ens - -"'*-- ..:C . 4,6.10 i. SO 'Jill., 1 . i . . . s- • - . .34 3do :A:1)404a ed. , , ,„„. 6 ,1 I. .6W , A Iromodme Who smelimsy solid arise Witheellt ass kiss t toohe grothr eset Is m 1 t .s 4 lea tea 101. mg et mosee, or ' ' M she lime, they would be stem imme the dray ; Ist if smaller were et >a week be payed f • • sesilisey. Ma T. DIINCOII22 vitt " he how geodsoso hod odd . soak to hems 1h mesthis - ises ed Into offset. He be meld la a time whoa the rososisioadatioe. dim Ilk. WILSON sold the proliudnery arrancomeuts week., M emspistal eamsenew, sad the lammed masses oreameses OM the Slat of the peewee month. INDIA-RUMS TENT AND CAPES FOR T TROOPS. O. DUNDAS Masi leek the Iladmeeentary tor War whether es inestles he semerdmi ladkrubler erne& dish hose wee eel }Webb Weis kr de Weeps hot lass brae.* ashy the stashes et the peewee Kr. Philo NU these 'madam' bed bees oet dusk bode the goveramsat. sad they bed psalms seselesd doodads Mai' mud iisearveL Thole wee this eds. ties la Om ma et the Goose sadwool& teats, that they would rid to the might to be serried by the soldier. as they mall Mourked is addiUCATlOtion to his blindest. EDN. • Os the mold of Lord PAIXIMION, the arias of day were vestreed- Sfr J. PAKINOTON then rose to move Orr Isms ts is a bill ler the bettor enerararamest sad peemedea Tenz ...... aledusatieu la Ragland sad Wales. 11. propisul th die be kaew the diftealty of the ease. Rs Tr - 1 by is party spirit ; he sought no party tri Os the emeteeey. it was hie belief that by skiving dm this maker mould sever be settled. TM slight soh ep- It was le appose It without yowl to peaty. F i rt g lbiog le lett to stet* with ee Mks was to hie obi ass of the most lifte r shir loteaded to premiss that the bill should be psnaleive. H. eaehleal he woe set wry toad of pesidsive Wide, bat be dew bow kik* was this safrisse. end be thumbt it meld be wiry fret k the bit deems at leased, bill shook be pumbeira. should take the mode aispfrel ho the efrainistretien et she peer law ; it bed washed wile semi me applieuble to this ems. is hie bumble „....l epidew the asthma memo k the made bora of ma that will GIN that se INS stesold be distikla7 ll M wWdts me a wadi pump k the statute leek whisk *sold say that ao tees amid be busiest. The but maw wee the wee la shah ihe =seem &NM by worked. The arse be peeped to adapt was, is leaperete tem, th•Hatatiwarimillpg aside%sdfrSt= dieted@ the Nett if Ibe pawky mikes. H dais poor-law mime it amid be optimal with the 'Mr Mese et the dietries to kids whether they would or weld use Mom the set. His he Mead whom he saw him, the amebic kr Dumfries, had Weeds& = le i s presedeat in his PAN, Libraries Ast dm oribeness the eefaspee of the raleprien of the diked. Zs mispesed. theoehte. that it should be leg to the NM. pro at to bib libelist hey mkt, m rail set, *the esti - if ' be , pre. 4 141 it. ,n went, kiares la et what he lead. He ham We& =teffil - the segregate et sham& people Mg got dress--s it Sere were a nuabler ial = whom the mem did net gnash to We me or the ether. Bat then remised this ' whisk aq ass meld either dispels or deny, namely, th the chunk bad ea bylaw sad effletwheladag r•made. vases ever say one et the other denemisansem (Beast) Let hint readied We hems of the atoll propeetlea of szigt la g a rea. Ey the mom it mimed that the WWI amok* of day abseil segweeesd - by the religiose MOW was WM ; sad ',them, us fame that 10,605 beisaged to the Me m& (Obeets.) Oa the other hand, the mother of ladependent was .alp 463; Raman sailmile 'shook, BID; semi of Wedges, EN. (Reim bon.) He was not inat meidell Mg Muter this ; he ealy Mad it essa desalt M tile UMW with which they had to deal. Bat without reishig the ganglia of whether the seeder system wits good or bad ; essimdft, mete, that it was the beet that mold be devised, b. Misved that if they attempted to Who it mien the einMrp, the public would retest it by • —. eneWeby. %sod sheers.) Let them, ;then, as ass II sem% emelder, het so molt whet was &sisal% bat whet was pesedeable. (Bear, hear.) The which he proposed to Wigan was bow they The best isesoill===ith the most sere. ws•V Om . (Hear, hear.) enisee of his bin, sad if he bad failed, he had at issue bees plirlbspi sleghotinded mud bows Ado ia the matter, and he Medd be reedy to listen to any suggestion on the The plat whisk he ventured to propose r was that do emaillis ia einewien se opissu wish ev eh ery mad dsecomi be wi na u ti an on , awn -411=161: Mehemet of the lase. As How. Ileams—Aied We great ? Sir J. PAKINGTON—That ma Wei already. He shield propose else that no chard; 'shed leis derive asp bomb from the vele swims its meows genesated to receive die. muting Mabee Mama Weis yea Om the Weskits. Is like maim me diesentlag ailed would beasts iry the rate unless its meows, were equally read to eye eho the Andres of church people, ee, in short, say without imposiag ups& them their welter religious Michlag. (Hem.) These broad rules would dips, of en the minas 'cheek; and then come the isapiwtent , queens. of the menden of new is... He bed bees Witt that he should make his bli esalse if he did net prom Ws part of it; bat he meld use secant to bring fa hi meson le so haw phis • stale; sod Ite would Move the beet . deal with = 4 " sib : grd• at 11411=i that the leashiell new wheals be la award sem with Oat if the majority of the 1114.1. If the et4edlg M soy district were in sonatas* with the dimM4 then it would be a March wheel ; if any Whet eel= 1 :2 1 should have the lupin Mat sass, then the W OM body ; bet la saber am the miss to which li b e e ln al veined with nopest to the pamiemille of ddldren of ether pinwale= would pre vail. (fir. bear.) He wished wow to Metes biased is those wise won maxims to adept the Amarima system, shoe be wield hoe war tea very large .aping, which was held la lismehertse et the smameassamat of last year, in ardor lie pima admits& He head that at that meet log isle& eapeenione were made use 'thy the hem mete bee our that lowa (Mr. Bright), whim be was sorry not to see fa his ghee. The hoe. member, who strongly append if the oessloz system, mid t hat be said est me oral Noliessey einaunisa Wilma religise Ist adihmelle and the meatless whist timed the adieu y su*ele of fa. etioeHea la do& ; Set he admitted that it erbr to it. • semplste Millen as he mast have iastructioa in Renew of higher Mama. (Hear, beer.) Them is t i=e hem member la thethenes who would owing thee had audit, to de with edoestiou, bat a very dllliniat saw I thiestose mataimed in this 'pie sit ef the bee. stember for lienebealw. In thet welsh he found a !Micro meeguition of the esteem. import:use which win to be steadied to religion as ibtedag a part of the 'delimits of shildren. (Ham Mar.) The quietus wee thus narrowed to a very smell Nowak foe it elms simply to this; where was the =le be taught ? (Hear, hear ) The hon. member in pert of the same speech aim threw some light upon tido past. He said, "The geishas was, why was it that the gam whisk bed been established in America, which megyheite eggishied, and to which everybody sub. WWI with greeter satisfaction than they subecribed t2i a m ether AIM whatever, Mould not abo be m this side of the Athatie ?" (Hear, hew.) M, led the hoe. member to the adoption of the American *Pim. This raised the question—could the American Wan be shed la in this country ?He thought not. In Amedmilhe mete were much more equally distributed than is dill maaaty. The right hon. gentleman hire quoted 611113 NMI work of ea American writer named Twisselton, gip the date of educatioa In Musashisetts, from whisk it - appeared that in every school in the state distino. Ws 'skims spikes were professed ; but they wore taught Ohs A hems or in the Sunday school. Would the house bust to the leashing of religion to English children at Moe? What were the homes of the thousands for whom it was proposed to provide educatios, where the name of the Saviour perhaps wee not even known? (Hear.) They could not compare a country Intim, in this respect with a newmttied country like the United States. The hen. member for Blanchester admitted that religion eiMuid be taught ; but could he suppose that it would be ts=t the wretched, ignorant, depraved parents who in this country ? (Hear, hear.) No such thing : U imeght at all it must be taught be We schools. There wets examples of this is both Ostliolio and Protestant countries. First, he would terse to Austria, where the ph cise optima was acted is whisk he mimed to apply—viz., teaching the religion of the mejerity of the inhabitants. The rule was adopeted both in Cadidie and Protestant states, she ia the O t tifs sad Plehatess mottoes of Switzerland. Is Emme t the sew tai pesealls&-the teacher of the wheel was *sleeted from the tweet numsens sect, and leave wee gives to children of a different peesomien to absent themeelves from the religious lastmelim. In those three countries the principle was adopted with perfect seems. But it was not unknown est in Mislead. He might refer to the mimed memo of the Bishop of Menchater when at the hosed of the este bested school called King Edward a tieleed, al The result was that no elan or seat el the ll == refrained from availing themselves of the bewail it that W the mum was most iseesssistly pursued. Why shield net a system which w e e emeessetal la Austria, Switzerland, sad Teems and is a maims pert of this country, be applicable to ihe whole ? - (Beer, hear.) Pew Cully it had • existed far beyond Birmiot hes. for le may teetenses the national 'Moth had emend to mimes the slush eatesidsm on dismissing eitildres. To tie other Mee would testy drive children from U whisk het make proselytes. This appeared to him the true soled= of the difieulty. (Hear, bear.) He had explained the, seeds Is which he asset to apply the principle, sad bad shown how this difficult question of reli gious instesetion might be dealt with. He felt a dap somistion that, year by year, there was a growing 1 neesesity our sash a immure as this ; end he was willing to hear the reepsesibility of the proposal be had made. He kaew that Ms own party would say he had conceded too meek, end that the dimmeses would complain that he had oat gas our miaigh I bat he had the satistaetiou of making ems antitheft' Se a muse whisk he felt to lay at the root of the welfare ef the eseale, . (Hear, hear.) The right hem pedemaa this mievid the imelutioi of which be had 'hes Pelee. Ito meths having bees seccaded, Mr. Hanna= and Lord U Cecil. objected to the bill. Lord arAtiLiT spoke wormy is its favour. Sir G. GREY said the house was sot, of *curse, now masa apes to =prise a &sided 'plebe ea the merits of the assure; bat on the pad of thelemenesint be roes toe the wpm et "MN lib mist mead assent to the int:oder dem et the 1M The right km geatimase deserved great milt firths gbh is whisk be upprosebad the subjeet, mai the game' and oszspnbenshe liberality with which he desk with it. (Inese.) He sioserely hoped his measure night remedy the detests whisk sow existed, but he sea kneed be we set very sonsuine es that point, and be M- I mod time the right his. gsaltunan himself did not la • very simee tom of its messes. The however, to whisk it maid give rise, maid 0tt ... ' ... ra tic be lissfal. Oa the gweeral heals of the saeseen he emeourredi Mei the right honearable gestismas, sod withont ed g uss ldemelf to the entire sem. reey et hie they must mimed on the bads that it greet et the herr deems wire very insperfestly se altogether steeped in whisk won the MOM psalm of crime. (Hear. t e = a slues of thimpi not very creditable to • d shilleed sembiy. la drawing a comparison beiges& Ms edeedien la this wed I. foreign °mashies, it should be home in Wad that the system, of Mummies is America and es the sostimat was oemeleory t (Hear.) He agreed with We right he.. genlisesee is Woking that the voluteta bed Wiled, ihweak he windily admitted that a greasler i l: b egs a sserd = 4 . the laudable exertion' of the advs. I gates of time (Hear.) Bat it failed as a and wee Ni. to keeping pate with rit maw of pelliellsOks, and in supplying it gaol whisk on proved W mist by the edusatirsel elethilea flofhteeseey ovidosoo an that head wee gives bane the sammithe ea the Kaashestee gad Selfeed Bill. There woes them parties before that sommistee—the &demists' of the voluetai7 swarm the Menem' of the Meashesser and Salford sines, sal the edelweiss if seenier ednewlies. The two latest eaves' is the aressefey it eatiodieg the moss of eineettes. sal the mesas of Weft the bet they differed es le the elide of applying it Now, C=f or thz i br ow es ta =l waslAaWalkt may well le sirperatetswim be was . t ."s..'...nw eirronnewees Ad ft was 'sly pormiedve le its absents would reader It nearly augato7 Is the muntry dishises. He seisidired the seeelltuties ef Me alassaisad lied le be eitabliehril by the HU to be seam, Whom it on the peteelph.ef mepheestithm. It wee lemmata M Rad om, p i on he toy plea of gene& adesedee mites they eegrefled go it semi made of sashemme t. edsZS bu skis. (Hier. hear.) the mks@ 142 i r e the.= hos. geminnen, , was 410 64 in Ildblipat in be 0. nr ' , _ zr aMilos -1,118 -.rail te be a M, Of not sepperted en win to be open to an, and no ems weep be sempolled*sitesed the religions instruction of the school if not is assonience with his belief. He was hot aware that the right his. gestlemaa had mostiesed the isinst of the rate. Ilk J. PAXINGTON—A fid, rate. file O. GMT said he Minded the committee es thie Ilairestlas smd Is HUI, gad he oasts to the emselsiell from the relies that that th ere was kis dame, was that he had ben led to pats. (Hear, beau) Sadvcreates of secular oduseis a tt he understood them, did set intend for an edueatioa sew rate from ringiss. Os the contrary, they said that reli gion ought le hen a part of eduestios, but should be gives dogleg the linos when the mils were set engaged is the remiss *denim of the school by pries= selsolett hr the purpose by_the diarist dm thinning. (Hear, hear.) He saw, therefore, a seamen geese* in Wish these who were anion for extisdieg the man mei& arehbe bobber, end he did set sew diem* of emit a result bong aseseeplished berme =wore so inommellsabie Menem between the various The right hes. baronet sampan that the bill, toge ther wi th that of W sone hissed (Lord J. Rama), Amid be suited to • eldest eionaines. He saw no objection to that nem% sew% that it wee saseemesry because the evi dence given before the Maathester on Ward Bill oommittre had exhausted the subject, at lent so far as Manchester and places like it were concerned, and farther evidence would be only se mush seedless delay. In the country matures might be differs*, and the subject might require further elucidation. The right hon. matlsmea would pro bably not press the mend feedbag till after the Easter re less. He hoped they wend then append' the subject in • spirit *thou of proomeng • system of itemoral education. And whether the Mil wan essemend or set the discussion would at bast mestere* thepoogsom of negation in the "'nal Kiev.) the The /OS 'enigma said that the rule dews by Ceabittee of Mason at Education to extend sidstaace is yeeyertka ae the inhabitants of the district subeiribed, op rated in favour of the rich and against the poorer districts. He was not premed to say that the sys tem they punned was perfect, bat be believed they adopted the beet system that was possible under the circemstaaces. (Hear, bear.) They had dens • great deal sot only to eztend the rposatity of education, but to raise the quality. The right hes. gentleman said that the standard of the school:mann wee raised too high. That might be the ease is agi o n sio namelber districti, but °snakily the great de test semi age won the low standard of education in the er. (Hear, bear) It was true that whoa a schoolmaster was highly trained he was often induced to tura lb lineation to more profitable pursuits. Bet the proper resany for that was not to lower the standard of edu cation, but to rain the position an salary of the school master whose occupation, though irksome, was most hosteashle. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. 'Guinan meatignei the par4lies of Bt. Giles's and aboreditob. es show* that the rule adopted by the Committee of Coebeikwas unfavourable to the peon: districts. Bat the right** gostipmen did set say whether these pariahs" had applied in the gnat. There win many other resists besides the meaty of the dieniat whisk kept back parishes 47.1,:bie from ap lag. Home parishes, foe inkeses, did set apply bagasse Mimed to the goversessat inspostios, w was as andillem nth, pan. Bet the rule of the of Osumi ea he hem at absolute one, eel Is world be hued that eine of the grants had bees Node to the merest Minkel of the metropolis. To ['pheasant they granted Mi.; to It. George's-in-the- East 2,3011 .; to Bt. Mary's, Tothill-fields, 1,11001. • to Whinchspel, 1,0601.; and to the parishes ismcmAing Bethnal-gins, 9,0621. (Hear.) The right hes. mat* man, therehn, lad not done justice to the Committee of Council is this respect. He should give Ms h assent to the in of the bill, and hoped that its d a would the herons of nes. (Hear.) Mr. .J. POI aril, th ed at& he Mg net edy adhere to the nine ~PM by the right hes. 'Whines, he cor dially aillmeir the Wham, the labour, the ability, and the garnet maser In whit& it had bean brought forward. (Hear, hear.) He wag song to age, by the speech of the Roble iced, that on ose ids Mere was se symptom of giving way in respeet to a quake Ware all must yield something and endeavour to apposimate, if anything was to be effected to rain , the meat mass of the population from the degrading state into which they were unhappily fallen. (Hear, hoar.) Whatever figure' might be quoted in that house, no one could gainsay the actual facts of the ceases, from which it appeared that out of every four persons mar ried one at least had to make his or her mark :(Hear, bear.) It was notorious that many of those who came to enrol themselves in the militia were not able to write ; sod, al though the intelligence displayed by the soldiers in the Crimea was highly creditable to them, it was recorded by Miss Nightingale, that in the hospitals one man had to read for two or throe others the religious tracts which were dis tributed anteegst the soldiers; thus showing that this was the properties in which they were able to read. Nor wee this the only proof of the Murata the present schen system. A year ago one of the government inspectors Ne• piratically declared that the schools generally were so per and inefficient that it would not gratify the friends of nap canoe If every child in the country were in one of them. The managers of the mechanics' institutes also lamented' that their efforts were baMed for want of previous adage lion to enable young men to enjoy the advantages offered by sad establishments. A short time ago some friends of edu cation in the metropolis established what was called “ The People's College." What was the result of their laudable efforts? Why, they were now endeavouring to combine with the college an elementary school. However, they bad sot found sufficient preparation in the minds of those whom they desired to benefit. la this state of things, without wandering the eztevalea of educations, he thought he might say that &meat ire meanest in its quality was absolutely necessary to bring the eon into a state which would be creditable to the 1 national character. There was one festers in the bill with which he was very much gratified ; he referred to the, provision that all the schools established ender the bill should be hoe. (Hear, hear.) He thought that provides would go far' towards meeting the objection of the right hon. beronst (air G. Grey), that it would be impossible to get children to attend the schools. The working classes, generally "bowed considerable appreciation of superior. teaching. (Hear, boar.) If one school bed been fogad better than another it was sure to be eepsclally.resorted he; end that had Mtn been the case is defiance eves of rell. gions prejudices. One great advantage which he ntisi i from freedom is the schools was that it would eased an opening for the exercise of • very legitimate and wholesome influence an the minds of the work ing classes by employen. Every employer was desirous of having intelligent workpeople ; sad when young persons came to ask for employment, they might fairly tell them that they must first aturad a gratuitom school in the neigh bourhood. This wee no mere speculation. It had been stated in geld/ue that 120 important firms in Manchester had declared their determination to make instruction, to a reasonable extent, a condition of employment in their esta blishments. (Hear, hoer.) Were there fres schools all over the country, there would be no necessity for a compul sory system. With schools which were perfectly fres, it would be practicable to have, what had been attended with so much advantage in the United States, • graduated system of schs u elnaMelleing with schools of an elementary cha racter, sad *lag granny till; they got to the very threshold Stalinists instruction. In America, one result of that madmen Wool system had been to lower the met of education frost Si to 40 n6O per cent. One word with regard to the religious question. Had the right hoe. trestle- , man attended to the speeches of the advocate' of what was termed the secular system, be would aot have been as sur prised as he appeared to be at the observations made by the hon. member for Manchester on the occasion to which he referred, because he only expressed the opinion generally held by three who were is favour of that system. These persons did not object to religion being taught at all, but to its Wog taught by the teacher of reading, mine& and arithmetie--(besr, bear)—and they were supported in their view by the peonage; who thought that linear drawing, perspective, sad the ernamistal arts might be usefully taught without any admixture of religious instruction. (Hear, bear.) There were nowise* work throughout the country which would proven ens the ehildna of profligate parents from being when' destitute of religious teaching. Tp the making the ethesimeter the religiose teacher there were very em4see eldeeline. Ames& them was the danger of his converthig the atheld hos t sewn proselything shop. He should he ea it the debt heseerable gentleman tSir J. Palpates) weld ealireety sire whether he low state of tessideg geserelly is sebeAs of which be ll was let is a 'rose degree attributable e iO g rll• i L‘ a The Masher was sot fee hisensasive anwirresests se with as for his io Manse* He swaged religiose leensegion whim he *aught that by re dots, Mesabi premete a higher thine. His bete Waded = a =Wen for a missiesary, a siermen, or • mikes.—was set essaargiat tad whisk was re quired is a Weber of il seitlemstio. it would set al thus WV:. w Whin weeemeell is ell worldly amens ;it wet& set de le have it thee pre& minute Is the wanting house or the camp. Lot • system of instrsides, however, be mead sad massive ; let it be ern% sad there sled eaa whin selted entitle:est h be eeling k ip le s =tste as that the thild wend set be Agleam ewes it there should sot be that smells depestie teething whisk the sable lord (Lord E. asemed le semi as sa the "be all d end all "el the powers be thus developed. Illheamilie llii6 = B. lhemed. est though a child wen mist a implements= estbelbuter it would outgrow supendiss i dumb It was gobs a scep tical soh aster, It wend, se its pewees wise *peon to the Joanne or truth, find its way hawasis that which was in harmony with human eabi ss aat rel jt: m ea d ft to Its highest pitch. Without more, he t h ou ght be had shown • disposition sot to t any th•Cey whit* he, sad thou woo sated with him on this queens*, had hitherto maintained stand in the way of a fair north], and grateful consideration of the measure whin had boas Lid before the hones. Mr. M. GIBBON said hs flay agree" with his ben. kiwi were deeply indebted , 4ingten) for dm manner subject ander the mmsidration \ his own convictions, the taken a considersble step . . mum of national edit reesgaked to a great eitant—though himself could have wished—the conseisnoe. There was one state baronet's speech to whisk he (Kr. he referred to the statement that Ird Bill wss thrown out through • was the member who moved the defeated the bill on the second reading, _)udos to himself, es defend the wares which he took. Though it was not unimportant whittle* measures of that kind were private or public, the reason why the bill was defeated was that it did not meet with the coneurrenoe of the corporation of blancheeter, who repro meted the great body of the rate-payese. When a private bill was introduced in that house whia weld base timed the locality contrary to the wish of the great majority of those whom he reprseeeted, he felt that he would be meet legitimately discharging his tuty in opposieg its progress. (Hear, hear.) The Home &eretuy had correctly nem seated the state of affairs in the committee on the Man chester and Salford Bill. He said there were three parties en the question, the volunteers, the sectaries, and the Manchester and Salford edecationista ; and the bill the right honourable baronet was, to a great intent, if not entirely, the same in principle with the scheme of the last meationed of those parties. It any system of national education was to be established, it mist be through the union of two of these parties. The two which he thought most likely to unite wen the party of the right boo. baronet opposite, and the secular party. Upon the question of rates, it appeared that they were agreed ; upon the question of local management, he thought they were also agreed; upon the principle, at least, of separating religious instruction from secular instruction, to the extent that perms of different religions might be associated to gether in a common school, they were further agreed. The point on which, he feared, they wen not agreed was this— It was the rock ahead for the measure before the bean. The right hen. baronet proposed to make it a condition that is say meal which was supported by rates some religion or Woe Amid be taught. Therefore be involved himself in a sebum of teaching all religions, every conflicting form of Ibeelo t tical °pinkie, at the public expense. Now here was a difficulty which he would find it hard to overcome. The sincere religious world would not consent to the adoption of any plan which would have the effect of teaching all forms of religion at the public szpense. (Hear, hear.) If public education was to be supported by taus and rates, they would, he believed, prefer that it should not go beyond secular teaching, and that the religious portion of education &odd be supplied by other means, and in other ways. He would pat it to his right hon. friend, with whom he was meet anxious to co-operate, what would his hon. friend bedded him, the member for Warwickshire (Kr. Spooner) say, if he were one of • minority residing in a parish where the gnat :majority of the ratepayers were Roman catholic', if, when the majority had established a school on Roman catholic principles, he was called upon to contribute se a ratepayer towards its support? (laughter.) Why the hon. member would meet such a demand with the indigos- don with which he met the proposal to make greats to Maynootb College. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Oitees) *en. fore was not in favour of introducing the religious de - O at all. The advocates of the secular scheme bad se lib to prohibit the teaching of religion as part of the .bare education. What they coatended was, that attain boom should be set apart, during which reticles' issirselles might be given ; that during those; boon csahosii asst be compelled to attend, and that the school should be during the other portions of the day for secular While they recognised the necessity of religious tonebiog, as part of education, they maintained that if Gametes wee to be supported by public rates the schools meat be amme• table to all, which they could not be exempt meder the arrangement which they proposed. He was is &condition to state that the secular party had a bill reedy to be intro duced. Some time age gentlemen who had taken a very active part in the promotion of the secular system requited him to ask the permission of the house to lay it on the table, and in accordance with that ruined, and feeling, after what bed passed that night, that it was desirable that the plans of the respective parties should be under examination at the ante time, he took that opportunity of giving notice that be should ask permission to lay before the house a bill for establishing a secular system of free school'. Mr. ADDERLBY thought It desirable, especially as then was a rival scheme, that the bill should be printed before it was discussed at any length. He was not, however, inclined to wait for the return of the noble lord (J. Russell) to discuss any question either of education or colonial in terests. He thought that the discussion of that night showed that a measure like this was not to be played with by &minis ter, and that discussion was not hardly required, but what was wanted was action. They had had proposals, and resolu tions, and bills enough, year after year, and yet they hat not moved an inch in the cause of education. They haffi before them now two measures, and he supposed, after the announcement of the right bon. gentleman (Mr. hi.Gibsoe), be might say that there was • third. But ell thou measures were based on the principle of local rates as • means of promoting eduestion. That was • most important point, and if it was ones established be thought he saw his way to • system of national education. The voluntary party was adverse to the bills before the house, but that party had almost dissolved of itself. There was nothing clearer, in the opinion of the country, than that schools on , the purely voluntary principle could not be maintained, and even if they could they would In of an inferior description. Their very eleemosynary nature would alone condemn them ; and their precariousness was also against them. Those voluntary schools which had not accepted the miaow* of grants wen the worst in the kingdom. It was difficult, too, to get the poorer classes to take the same interest in schools supported by the contri butions of certain individualise in those to which they them selves contributed. But the voluntary system had broken itself down ; for it bad taken grants from the Committee of the Privy Council. If all the best of those schools were re ceiving grants, the question was simply what was the best kind of public aid to be applied to the maintenance of schools. It was, in his opinion, clear that such aid should be derived from local rates. Then, with regard to the kind of education to be given, the main futures of the schools for the 10Wif orders sho uld be industrial. For history, geography, and natural philosophy, however advantageous in themselves, were rather secondary objects with them. He believed that if the system of national education had been in the hands of load bodies for the last twenty years that education would have been, if less learned, yet more industrial and practical, and better fitted for enabling the children so brought up to earn their bread honestly and inde pendently. With regard to the secular system there bad been some ma-statements in the course of the debate. The difference between the secular and dean- - • system wes this, that the secular system refused to admit any religions teaching into schools, while the denominational plan admitted instruction and religious teachings for every denomination. He believed that the denominational system was the only one which could be carried out in this eountay. There were some material dif ferences in the details of the bills of the noble lord GI . Ras- sell) end of the right hon. baronet—though they agreed in the main principle—and he (Hr. Ad. dull) wan it favour of the provisions of that of t he right honourable baronet as being the most practicable. There were several points of difference. The noble lord proposed as the agency for setting in motion his bill, the town councils and vestries in the different dis tricts, and that whatever scheme those bodies devised, if it onuld obtain the sanction of the Committee of the Privy Council, it was to be adopted. The objection to that was that the town council and vestries were slow to move in the cause of education, and no better instance of it would be given than when the ratepayers of Manchester came for ward to promote a scheme of education, the town °Denali refused to co-operate with them. The right hon. baronet, however, put the initiative into the hands of the ratepayers. Then there was a more fatal objection to the provision that any scheme formed by a town council or vestry, and sane tioned by the Committee of the Privy Council, should be adopted, and that was the vast variety of schemes that could be produced, and which would not be subject to the control of that house, thus introducing a most complicated system of edseadon. Even the pewees already possessed by the Committee of the Privy Council were objec- tionable, inasmuch as they involved a system of bye legislation on • most important question. The bill of the noble lord was most crude and hasty, in thus handing over everything to the Committee of the Privy Council. Another point that was objectionable in the bill of the noble lord was that, having started schools in that way, he handed them over to the management of the town councils and vestries, whereas the bill of the right ho nourable baronet gave the mana.,entent to hoards elected by ratepayers. He thought the house, judging by the cheers with which that provision was received, considered that as a good part of the plea. He be lieved that it was an essential part of a system of national education to hand over the management of the schools to the ratepayers. On the question of religious teaching, he thought that whether the principle of perfect toleration laid down by the right hon. baronet would be generally acceptable sad egsvened remained to be seen. After some other remarks eyes the Educative Bill of Lord John Russell, the les. genthision soscluded by saying he should nipped . tie maims. Lori PALMIISTON—I am sure the house is greatly Indebted to the eight hon. hart who has made this motion, for the mast isiseesting and able speech with which he in &mod it, sherries that he has given his powerful and vigorous mind S. the investigation of one of the most in teresting; and imperbuit subjects to which a public man can Moe% his ainsades ; sad with regard to the measure which he hes pregtesed, until it is laid before the hones, and we have sees ties delaile, I think it is premature to express any decided splidea es to the comparative merits of the scheme of the or his. berme; sad that of my noble friend to whirl!' ~es keg bees made. I think that in truth some of the ehmewatiess et the hoe. gentleman who has just eat down, os the bill of my molds friend, were rather astir:loads, future disesiniens than, perhaps, exactly in point es the premed Meade& Sir, it is maim* that, as steed bylheofilbt hes. basset, there is a wed veal of seems mere oiliest aresegenseats for the wiessie• of the lower dews. I wanes help *Whim thee he hem is mesas degree eaeggeratei the nisi of *seises' sad ail meant of soiraparterinierar *stare to be lbw& is the essatry. I have se doubt Sit time leainese wblef<hehesiessYesed were Wiese@ la regent to yid. the foie woe sweetly stated ; bed I think we are lot entitled to take these iestaaose a eseuNime whereby to judo ef the geserality of the sant:, Warr. las *sly say that, so far as my owes total Movie* nay Woad, I an happy to es, that the . • THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY • .MING, /LARCH 17, 1105. illii 7 7 these 'duels cif wesina tibteles !I' ' d oiorol ooming way 4 i i ii a sap t i db4 d . i tt Sit wrnism. , till., hr. ..tbiL seta. .rotkiteti es ~iet rir 14 ••,,,,,„4:ibr0r _ fr ., Mt?. 1: • i.... 4- C.:brit:Vl .. _A s r On .'" * ' ' W that sualar atm stood at whet i the Wpm. au Maul* ',Silos! if tie house.. ~ • tly with his own c lit A was -- 1( ail , • Be did inn Maw to be au is establ the at 'shoot right kw. bascule hog no doubt taken aco say e' "" 1 Avila be sutural's sew( assumieg that religion waste form towards the tof a free system a MIS mm- i dead t t io ou t of ens wor i ty wee to be is sawdust* with the ie. scion ; and lini eked to .great • I.! of mart ‘ ' ' ill tairo v is s iii ii pb be hew ef the of the thhabiteets of the dberice. not to the 6:teat - that he Wulf could ha , reit to ti etlier far ethic sad dam isaf f or, plasm, In that OW the imilsisa to be taught it th e fell principle of liberty of emulous,. Then lbw vile slink, et lout fa lb* legie sad populous districts Of 'mint in the right hon. baronet's speech to I mola bepeancial-Sse-dmwels - W Sestina. But M. Gibson) must demur ; he referred to the i hrill et lotist igili S riffiln libill 11.11"Ig yM i ail i ill the s e lleillir r r eill irr e bilram ves t al lia g itst we bad l b w m k o so s igog foilefatlpe . sic alillge a suktoeligion, the Manchester and Salford Bill was throws s wished to kW* . and did na / mime ma j or ft y o f se, as tho 'dike* Of tat OBareitot dlt did not paltry gullible. As he was the member ukase would take Pal* ' it. C. No, no.") He knew whet that bi b is o o soy - *gab he con- amendment which defeated the bill on th e A A Of " t, and he unlit, if Deceassq, qeote to be • Mil. Of awes the schools to be he fait board . In jostles to ideoeog, to. AO ": 42101.6.181 1-. 1 1; Lc.* tit eVistiet n• wa. Be knew that it wasia sunstee4•s*______.,_, *lnn c'e,_he.2„e2Lit all, i r s which be yr , ,,it...;brgi. It w r. a " 'lf P districts with which I am connected, do not resemble tke places from which the right hoe. baronet derives his la w nation. No doubt, sir, the religions question is one whims must, I am afraid, oppose great difficulties in the way et those who take this subject in hand ; but, at the same be e ' I entirely agree with the right hon. baronet, in hoping tot those who entertain different opinions upon tbe i branch of the subject will recollect, that we all do hold opinions in common, which ought to b e . and may be, the foundation of a common of education ; and I eonfess I di not agree with noble lord who has spoken on that side of the house, be thinking that differences upon religious questions an radical and so complete as to render it impossible that than should be a common system applicable to persons of all g e ; nominations. (Cheers.) Sir, under these circumstances, I accept with the greatest pleasure and cordiality the peep e d of the right hon. baronet to bring in his bill. I think aw ass done right in postponing his further statement of the big till after Easter. The house will then have before thee the two =ensures, that of my noble friend, and that of the right hon. baronet ; and I must say, with mart is them, that the criticism which the honourable nee. tlesan, who has just eat down, has made efr-sbe bill of my noble friend, is one that does not seen% me strictly to apply. He has contrasted the great er Üb e . rality of the arrangements of the right hon. baronet with what he conceives to be the smaller liberality of the mums of my noble friend. The one propmes that the manage. meat of these school, should be confided to persons elected by the ratepayers, while my noble friend would place thorn more in the hands of the town councils anti vestries; pea surely the hon. gentleman forgets that the town tease& themselves are the creatures of election, and therefore it merely a question of whether there shall be as elemeseje, the first instance, or a double election ; but equsilly, In ' n ee case, the selection arises from the most complete slangs. The house will have to determine which two may be the most expedient: but clearly, is palm et principle, each measure relies upon, and is determined by, a purely popular and general choice. Sir, Ido hope gem the discussion which has taken place will satisfy the hew s on the present occasion. (Cheers.) If gentlemen yo l k reserve their more detailed opinions on the matter until tee two bills are both upon the table before them, I think ses . . might now be allowed to proceed to those other maths; which are equally worthy of the attention of the bonne). Leave was then given to bring in the bill. i LOCAL GOVERNMENT OF THE METROPOLIS, Sir B. HALL said that, after the unavoidable &lets which bad taken place in the introduction of the imam of which he had given notice, he was glad to have en upper. Utility, however late it might be, to move for leave to brhig in a bill for the better local management of the metropolla It would be his duty to lay before the house a stateliest of the present condition of the metropolis, and of themes, in which its local affairs were now administered. Hula done this at considerable length, the hon. baronet sell that now the difficulty arose, bow should they deal lija this question ? Various plane had been proposed, led there were some of them so complicated as to be bud worth any notice ; but there were two or three others of % different character. One was that there should be ell great corporation for the whole of London, including die City. The objections to any such scheme were so wall stated by the pommissiocers for inquiry into the corps/mint of the City that he should refer to their statement:— " Landon taken in its full extent is (sa it has with Mend truth been called) a province covered with houses ; its die meter from north to south and from east to west is so greet that the persons living at its furthest extremities have fon interests in common; its area is so large that each inlaid teat is in g I acquainted only with his own quarter, sad has no minute knowledge of other parts of the town. Beam the two first conditions for municipal government, mints local knowledge and community of interests, would be wanting, if the whole of London were, by an est/slim of the present boundaries of the City, pl aced under a single municipal corporation. The enormous numbers of the pse. potation, and the vast magnitude of the incase& white, would be under the care of the municipal body, would like. wise render its administration a work of great diflleilty. And these considerations appear to us decisive against*, expediency of placing the whole of the metrop?lll under a single municipal corporation, without advertiat to those more general questions of public policy which na turally suggest themselves in connection with the subject." Another suggestion was that there should be charters of in corporation granted to the present boroughs. lie thought the greatest inconvenience would arise from that. The Tower Hamlets contained 550,000 inhabitants ; Fleabag, 330,000; Marylebone, about 400,0a0. They were too large, and would probably be larger, and they must not legislate merely for the present, but for some time to come. MOM* over, they would be imposing on the inhabitants of Leedom that to which they were much disinclined, in imposing them municipal corporations. There was a plan which was suggested by the commissioners which be proposed to adopt. It was put forward in these words : " We see no reason why the benefit of municipal indite- Hosts should not be extended to the rest of the metropolis by is division into municipal district; each possessing a m cipal government of its own. IVhat the form of this government should be, and what should be the number or extent of the districts, are questions not lying within the scope of our commission, and upon which we are not cos. potent to express any opinion. We may be permitted hue to remark that the 'power of petition to the crown for the grant of a municipal corporation given to parliamentary boroughs by the Municipal Corporations Act, and by the set of 1 Vict., c. 78, does not appear to us to be practically applicable to the metropolis. In order that a proper dis tribution of the metropolis into municipal districts should be effected, it would be necessary to take a connected view of its different parts, and to arrange the boundaries and Ilse of each district with reference to the other districts. Without such mutual adjustments, a proper combination of districts would be impossible, and such adjustments could not be made if charters were granted singly to parliamen tary boroughs. If a distribution of the metropolis into municipal districts is to be made, it ought, as it seems to us, to be made simultaneously, and with due consideration of the manner in which the in terest' of each part are affected by the general plan." The recommendation which be should take was that the metropolis should be divided into municipal districts. It so doing, a connected view of the different pacts could he taken, and the boundaries of each district made in referee* to the other districts. Ho proposed to carry out these peer positions without creating corporations. He proposed that ecclesiastical boundaries should not be interfered with, neither should he interfere with the poor law, nor with any power that the Poor-law Board might have. Be had stated already that be proposed to take the RegistrarGenerel% district for the metropolis. There were 30 districts, with the exception of the City of London. which he did not propose to include, because another bill would be brought to having reference to the City. The bill would, in the first place, extend the provisions of Ilobhouse's Act to all the parishes comprised within the Regis , tear-General's district. There were two clauses of parishes in the metropolis. The one he would call parishes sole, as not being in union ; the other, he would call united parishes, being in union. There were 21 of these Slagle parishes, having • population of 1,456,363. The vestry of these parishes would be elected snider the provisions of the art be had referred to, and be proposed that the Two that should be so elected should be the local board, iss of having a separate board elected by the ratepayers. Re then came to the parishes in union, of which there wes• 66 comprised in 14 unions, containing a populatioe at 776,607 persons ; and he proposed that parishes in union should send to the district board • certain number 04 representatives arranged according to their population. The district board would have the power of paving, lighting, and cleansing their respective districts, as would also the local boards to which he had referred. The local uttered these different localities would be placed under. the control of the different local boards. Representations were made to him that it would be utterly impossible for any one beard to manage the sewers of the metropolis, and therebre he had placed them under the local boards, but this was a sob• ject for consideration. These district boards would bee the power and duties of local boards of health so fat as related to the p ion and removal of nuisances. The rates, which would include the amount to be paid by the district board to • metropolitan board, to which he would Refer, would, to save expense, be all collected by the collec tor of the poor rate. The rates for paving and lighting would be borne by the occupier, end where not otherwise provided for by lease or agreement, the sewers rate would be paid by the owner, as at present. As regarded the existing liabilities, he should provide that these debts should remain steady chargeable on the places where they were created, and he would provide that they should be paid off, principal and interest, in 60 years. It wee obviously necessary that while they provided for the local works being done by the local boards, there should be some general board for the whole of the metro polis. Respecting this, the following suggestion had been made by the commissioners : "We suggest the creation of a Metropolitan Board of Works, to be composed of a very limited number of members deputed to it from the council of each metropolitan municipal body, including the corporation of the City. We propose that the Manage ment of public works, in which the metropolis has a com mon interest, should be conducted by this body. At present works of this sort can only:be undertakes either by the corporation of London, from its own peculiar funds or under powers created for the purpose by special legislation, or by the executive government oat of parliamentary grants. It is manifest that a power of executing public' works of gene ral metropolitan importance, such as the construction of bridges over the Thames, or the opening or widening of main lines of street, accompanied by s power of metropo litan taxation, would, though founded on a basis of popular election, require efficient safeguards for its prudent and nodal exercise. We therefore think that the plans of the works to be executed should be submitted to a committee of the Privy Council, and its consent obtained before they are serried into effect. We may add, that cases may arias where public works may be executed in the metropolis portly out of the metropolitan fund and partly from parlia- Fofgrants, end that I. these cases a control of the ve government such as we have proposed would be ble. Ihe oommiseionen recommend in their 29 th on, that in the event of a division of the metro tato municipal districts being made, a metropolitan work. be created, composed of members de pleted to it from the conned of each metropolitan sansielgol body, including the Common Conned of the City." igb missed that this board should consist of 42 elected member; two to be elected by the corporation of the City of Leaden, and the remainder by the districts which would be found in the schedule attached to the act. The chairman would make 43, and persons would be eligible, whether be longing to the district or not. One-third would be eligible