The Express. — London, England, 1850-02-22 00:00:00

it. M OS IN /--. It to 4 76 lad A Ito It .it i I by 7 st • yoi the, i = n,• Iwo b f row° bye 2/. - • he reline areal and Medial& the Me I -.se tea 11111311tO t O V - - soot sou stable the ' ;04. th...h• beagstilalblilagagairmithe a t'„. 6 l - no w s taboo. My boa. fr iend the member illem w="7, l ; i ll r mmood) says yes meld to settle the re , -1, b e rine to settle the Sanger gt=g ?plus (Cheers.) The loaded intentele mys he d ley sa mortgagee. Contrasted, neellest. seder be. ▪ iar„, May, hear.) 83 berdreed hate the! to s s" thee have so other shermstive, te with drbß • ntl, but to is their propertim. When rad sov boo. 1 7. 1 ' ) Ueda preasedea. Can there be t ee" then , this this "watt that ,agy re. • ) (-aters.) • But, admitting time see these heavy rev ue • that presses are boreseriag mosey sew at 41 sad Interest pay m ham Mika wkm to era , S eist ' the he w y wao a m t 3per COW. t the our surplus ? (Hese. The hopes el 1 7; ; ;j to leis to ul s ture form hr the sdi main ec temease witm l et pabiketelliil i = that ' , m inium:nal deo pu bli c t ens toot hoed speak go lightly. I edi kiesta=meness ~- • • hall have the effect of deetrayfres geglialelle Is Me ' credit will eligible him totriumple ke • eueyshege (op ;,, — e • tt e c ,l over the public creditor ; for at the limb @tribes • bio - „ 1 :s the public creditor, he will be stalking • Meer at tko wiled intense (Hear, Peer and load Meek) Tberelere, t the formal and th' a financial c sedition et the 100. 0 1 p yopsnl, i I would wonder t • most unw , mprevident, vestry. ' pre cipitate act you could comm i t if you were to adopt the so dee How bit possible to noahltaxas unduly bearing on tae sortalteral interest it you Moose to say that you will resod the 'large r.ow bearing ea nal property? (Hear, ) Tens are guestioas of the utmost importaute coa aeeted with the revision of duty. I will take the duty ea brine; sad I say that if by any mere trudge of taxation you precluded the Chem:eller d the Reclines, hem fairly coneilering whether the brick duty altould be removed or ea& d.you world be taking a coons most injurious to meows n run. See how unfairly this duty on bricks presses. There I s o part of the country aboundiag in state and coal, welsh pesogette advantages for building. Thera is another part without seal and stone, and which has bricks ealy. And keno lea heavy duty of the cache prevendai the free appli- Whoa of that article to the construction of horn. (Hear, hear.) Upon email gat the duty on bricks removed to a &Murtha a income of 600,0001 you would be mosfening e Mean keen on real property than you ere delag by the present mottos. All real property would be improved by • reseed of the duty on mucks. (Hear.) Tate the sanitary Malice of tours. Caa anything afford more ameatial Uvular this this removal ? You all know the direct newest you have, se agriculturirts, ia kakis* 'm, ▪ to make Iroved farm building'. 1 believe t in farm buildings will be one great came of ▪ ago sakwet presperity—that it will be of the almost int pwtasw Well, but see how the benefiont designs of the L this rages: an thwarted by as guise duty ea bristle ! Tale duty, moreover, opposes as impediemat to the exercise of skill and ingenuity is the matimiteMers of the article. BMWS the brick duty, sad see whet as lamellate edema.* th e agyisulturist will derive from the abolition of such a preueiary_burden, sad so iseeseesi sa (ionise of skill. (sear) Have hoe manbere teed the pun just le.l epee the tabie on th e operation of the law of settle ment ? Ti. eossideration of that quake will be forced upon you. It wield be premature to eater epee it now. But I wish yew to read the Isparta at the three gentlemen who have made the raper's, sad who Redoubled the &Moult, ansiog from the want of cottages be the labourers in roma dirtnete. Yea will there see the effect upea the tesith and comfort of the labouring peer, tamed by the v oromforable dwellings in whisk they voids. Is same instances labourers cone to the hems spas deakeye—(bud IsJeltter and cheers)—in conarteesees of the diseases the few are from their abed. II sech is eke senditien at the .tiers that, in order to get employment upon a an& Lam there are not less than tweedy donkeys TUTS Of itughter, tad sheers)—lt is • uselansbely dues. stun re. It may be a 'abject for rielionik bat le k pc:cretin of very utioss eoasequegi nagogro. e,,,deirog of comfortable corteges ler them paer ma by al rite the brick duty. Alter year law 01 genii meet, couider the law of suds meat la ere& plaction with all those other marten of whisk yes give vote, ;middy not by • sudden vote preclude peruke* from m eideneg whether you might sot advance the interests M the poorer classes by the removal of the brisk duty. (Cheers.) In the present state of the public revenue, I will wait until 1 hear the mural statement of the Chaneedier of the Ea ceNue. We en speaking at a peculiar period. Nut year tee gaieties of the income tax must be brought eider h e ' l l,. I leer, hear.) It may be of imports*** to con par tees whether that tax should be ceatiseed, tad. if esatinued, what modifications it should ander po ; bat by adtpting tbe moths of to night you wid marl the continuance of the Leeman tax. (Cheers. sad revs of "No no.") If yea de not, may a tatted tercel's Me import duties on food. (Loud in risi teem.) lire mean to appropsiate the surplus of this and firre vests, then, lodged, you do manifest what your istertin S— gamely, that which the hon. 'amber for Sur rey stated it to be the other night, that every 'Miele im ported tem foreign countries should pay duty. (Renewed rs chee. I The same hon. member mid that the straggle gene on was one between capital and labour, money and Bk. My km. foetid is a great advocate for labour against capital, for lie against money; and what is the opine he advises? To raver tarsi n Irani capital and place it upon labour. (Btu hear.; Nay, more, he says he never will be s %defied until tee labourer can make his owe bricks, collect his own hops, and Drew his own malt Well, but why will he net siso never rest until the 'Amer can eat his baeoe whiteout duty of he imports it from abroad ? (Hear, hear.) Why wi:i he not allow es to repeal the duty an bricks? (Cheers, end cries of "Oh ! I say you an taking a tsars, which will not allow us to take the duty' cE brick,. (Load cheers.) Now, what this pro posai be so far as the occupying tenant is concerned ? My two belief is, that the occupying tenant would derive some ben. ht. But lit us estimate the full automat of that. This s proposal to relieve, sot the land, but real peoperty from a there to which it is subject. Tee charge is V. 00,0001., and it Is to be trasskrred from real property to the consoli dated :eve'. Let us consider tons cot the circumstances con nected with this. This is not • tax upon tad exclusively ;it is a tax upon real property. The proportion in which load contributed to this tax has been constantly diminish*, sad in esesequence of the program of mann henrys that pretioa MA& falls upon others has been lumen( In 1827, 1,180,0 Xll. of the 2.000,0001. would have bees petd by the land. In 1833, the land paid 1.2 4 73.9•01 ; in 1841, 1,040,0001. ' • tad in 1819, only etti,!vod. Sinn 1527, then, there has been a tendency t 3 nem tee landed interest by transferring the charge to other property. By the removal of the 2,000,0001. you will ...triune the remission of 100,0001. en landed pro perty. 1,169 00;" on other descripthons of property, con-isting of mills and manufactories, the owners of which ease been directly benefited by recent legida eve change,. ( Hear, hear.) Up to the proses% hoar we have heard that the landowner' have bees sacrificed by the millowners—that the Manchester school has been predo minant. and that the reduction of provisions has been for their inhales busk. Well, in order to gain • remission of bastion to the amount of 900,0001., you are going to ne ye the owners of these mills of a burden of 1,100,0001., to which they are subject, and whisks le constantly incensing upon them. What Is the benefit the occupying tenant receives from this ? It is about threepence or Emmen in tee pound, but he will have to bear su mmed tuition in order to make up the transfer of the 1,1(30001 ( Hear, heat) It is my firm impression, then, that the eeeupyiag tenant will derive ao benefit whatever— note to health him for the lass be will sustain. (Hear, bear) This, therefore, is an impolitic motion. My belief L, that sericulture, the landed intense, the occupying tenant—will dad their interest mach Wier consult ed by leaving it open to consider whether any poetise of the public tares can be removed than by taking off this per mange in the pound, and leaving all the other questions aatsseked. ((;been.) Bo tar as irtis interest is concereed, 1 to the propoial. I object to it on smother it is a reversal of that financial policy meetly ma In 1842 the apportioasseat of public taxed= was seed aajust._ Labour, sad thoss who lived by labour, wen widely butane& sad there wet scarcely say While which woe set heavily charged. Chum, batter, bacon, and everythi n g coanmed, If brought from a fersige country, was subject to high taxation. The prices of those articles were reduced by free oompetition and un restricted import from foreign countries. (Hear, hear.) Now, you are about to remove from real property a thane of 2,000,0001, and to {tapas that upon lbw who were unduly aggrieved by the pressure of taxation in 1912, and whom you relieved, and whose affection and (attitude you resolved in return. (Hsu, hear.) Some tempting' ef the tea duty, others of the soap duty, sad others of tho window tax, bat you are postponing tee considers tioa of all the. questioruo by appropriating the sumbie— placing the shags of real property on the soemilidated fund. I object to the justness of that transfer, but I do not say there may not be some har dens now borne by the land to which re lief might be given. (Hear, hear.) I admitted is '46 the land was unduly burdened, and I than attempted to give it relief by transferviag charges on the consolidated fund ; and I us not prepared to say that fall relief was given In that ',met. (Hear, hear.) My main objection to the proposal is, that it is a reversal dike financial policy of the i'vetry, sad that our welfare is intimately connected with the relied of industry and commerce. (Cheers.) I have be, r. char/red, as the house is well aware—exposed to, rh,rdee tr,r the last three or four months—to the revival of oweee—of having acted unfaithfully and treacherously to the landed interest. Well, u fu as inten tom it &interned, I entreat you to consider whe tter ia li I could i, have had eel ',Primal or political objects the counsel which I gave, and Ia mots anndicu the measures which were adopted. (" Hear, hear," and load cheers.) Admitting that there ought to be, with revert to the conduct and olives of public men, the utithet latitude of discumios, I will not complain of any lit tle term of language used towards me. The only charge I will refer to is one that was brought against me by a noble lord, the member for Nottingbamehire (Lord H. BentinehL who not only imputes motives, but who publicly die elan d at a meeting la his meaty that 1 had a porde and personal interest is recommending those ehat•stes of the law which I recommended in 11847. I thine it would be as well it we abstained from impede, to each other thabOttlet lIIOdIIIIII. (Hear.) I skald be (16.1 Inept to /me to the sable iced, In say amuse which be ?vet take, credit ler the purity of his motives, even wkile 1 ought ;sneer agoinst sad dem:vanes his asessairse. Tao soh(' lord hoe aot treated me with that sensiekwatiora. He not only thinks that my course has bus moot impolitic—be not only thinks that I have bete unfaitlahl to the late "' which I wee bowed to support, bet the sable lard rye that I was inheritor' by esadderstiess of private “." 4 07 kis in *denies these matures. lead the noble me loud his charge stalest MO upon this allegatioa—that =Welt in fanded property far exceeded the interest had in lead. The noble lord bad condescended, na p's'', to make inquiry into my private circumetaassee sad eadorteek re Worn Obese who more r ti Ma West ny lahmet Sad woo eel, she-bank et *interest whin 1 had it the toads, sad that Asian I bad a direst mein la airless the meal of the sort laws. Well, ne v i de use deptaaaa may Merano whisk the mills Mod, if he Wake it eassisteat with his rehab dsty, may think k M make May private eireametaaess. I mut say I *soli ban home with a san km eqsasimity **demise erlioh Imo beembeeastet gnate me it I dem ons* loyalty sail modestia tale any eat, path& or nemeeted Mit nay "nib lay ; hat I haws • right se impish if the mils lord *sushi it RMS. to Margo me with pawn sienna, sad fonadod *et dingo upon ohms Lase of my private Mat" I_ thigh I lave a right So require front the aside lost that he slink make himself mars of the hots, sad this le should not peke a charge ups ea anamptlea whisk is needy as fosadad. I shall set trouble the beam with Mermen to privets manses; I shall any say, if the noble Ind had bap pawn to state welly the reverse of that whisk he AM _outs, he would have ban mask saner the Wadi than he was. (Hear.) AM I hope, thwalare, that the mike lord, bow nor aafainfal he may think Ni,r !owner politic ay seellearea I do kepi the walk Lei will email me of say_ Wanks to dories p mkt hos the stew w hale I bave peneed. adioe ammo Ile seadost of a pablis asa as tremolos% XS se obis pia to plass senseless fa the dhotis. Is With Oboe polite wan is plated, sad Os swelter Ile duty ohlib deollosamea bin. When I aoi awe alto uMi, whoos hewed all as, daosenieed that k wee eve deer Is pewees to the holdstore the No. of the du= hod, we seen theesigaed pulsator sad is alegai_ep It wog impasible fee as knew to what salsa we threater amen( the food of a large psetha et the pee* ot Irelead edglit go. We bow this, that in Inland alone four Willow of pen= der aided ■ ate artists of mbeastssee, we ham thalami moral Mira wee seriously threa ts nod. gime say hr am that I did feel k my dsty ; I felt key dolly m a }ebbs sea to take proontiams, men if they Medd be siee s es, against the reearreille of • calamity whisk be fatal to the ppeewaw. el tin money sad fatal to the of may thoarads. Nay more, I die Inane that it would not be soniseive to the Mona et the sheisoltagal dosses to see the slut et disease oaf gimlet, sat psi te Woo die aellasel esseedy. wady, Imeesad mesas of siabshOmes. (Obsess.) I did elm bases that these deans saes emorial ht the ale • pablle opiates gad the smalls. for sovhol of sees hake ease day bad bees area e=wM Movie new ) the woes et th e had. The had ewes Ss the some goackeirre. The see d bed Ali net; I Winn, intend to cabana the souse sow Wig. bat Ike noble lord had use to the sans eosin sits, that the duties out sera eaglet to bo r k zealed, to be suspended, and that after i their revival would beimpoenlie, at last out a men, which woobe Sinks* to them hr whose interest they were levied. That was my derione belief. I thought it a duty, a duty which I owed te aud to this country inhere sea. &ease et wise he like the peseta tioss which .Mae geoid be taken by ampleing these duties. I conscisatiously believed that .Its that easpouslon it would be met unwise to give • please hr the revival and re newal of those duties as they thetas:Wed. 1 may have boss mistaken, bat all subsequent events have proved that we were sot mistaken—(leer, bear)—that tho souses which we took was a wise one. Could I for personal or political ob pets have forfeited your confides.., have rellaqableed ad exposed rayself to abuse sad vituperasica, mad to the loss of confidence, which was more martiteisig that mythias else? The interval that has passed has only coafirnsiv belief ia the pendulum of the cams which we nu l mei the tangy et thews somesercin prin kpT4 waidi were acted apes subsequat to the year 1842, gad se which the pmeat government has, infinitely to sednaction, steadily and goasisteatly adhered. I mann epee with the hon. gmetkann that las ea enemy to the fad. All ny prejudices, sympathise, sad interests are ens anted with it. I agree with tha am. petunia& that the Mad is the staple, the basis of oar preperity. Deeply should I deploys the day when the lead lost its legklativit influence. Bly belief is that the lead will always retain its Legislative Mimes. You are sew tellirs me that if there was • diesolatioa and a am election a parlismisat would be moron which would side revive peotestios. I totally differ from you as to the result. It is ny firs belief that protection never will, ad amen as be revivod. (Chien.) Bat you convince se that the joy influence of laad is sot diminished when yoga prophesy that it will return to parlia ment a majority. The laps dein*, the changes of institu tions ad mamma asks peat cheeps in the causes which contribute to the influents of lands property. It would be utterly iespossibls to cloths the land now with the privileges which it pea wised at the time the feudal system prevailed. AU I. mutations hays been comptilsd to change and modify the grand ea which they maintained their mosadaacy. Queen Victoria coma speak to the house of parliament in the tone in which Queen Elisabeth did ; but I doubt whether tbe influence of Queen Victoria, although groat prerogatives bays been relinquished—l doubt whether the influence of Qom Victoria, the inflame* of affection, of attachment, of wither obedieace, is not greater than my which Qases lilisabseb ever had. (Cheers.) Be it has been with the privileges of the aristocracy; so it has been with the privileges of Me House of Commons. There was a time when he who fished is your Bah-pond would be apprehended and punished for having oomnitted a breach of privilege. You have mods • wise tioacenion to justice, you have waived these ptivil.gee, but has your legitimate influence been abated ? No, bat it has been derived from other souses. Your willingly abandoning that which could net be justly maintained has given you an ample compensation in power. And so it is with the land. The pond ret en tion of old customs, of old privileges, would wily undermine and not increase you power. In my opio ion your relinquishment of protection was more to your permanent advantage, more conducive to the main tenance of your real authority, than the having a Severe struggle for its maintenance would have been. My belief is, that by relinquish' protection, by giving to the poor and to the labouring dares the advantage of unrestricted imports—by doing that when then was no im mediate menace of violence, no threat—my opinion is, that you has received ample compensation for that which you relinquished. Your just influence can. not be relinquished. It is founded on ancient institutions, on the nature of our nustitatioa ; it is founded on your high character, and depend upon it it will not be abated, because you have refused to receive pecuniary advantage by in. creasing the price of food, and impanel; restrictions as trade. I contend also that your interests are in timately interwoven and corrected with the pros perity of manufactures. My firm belief is that protection is unattainable ; but I am worry that the gnomish is not brought to the test by a distinct motion, on which the opinion of the lions of Commons could be taken. If it were brought forward, I should beg so state the grounds eel length upon which I adhere to the principles on which I acted in 1842, upon which I should implore yea not to cheek that confidence which has bees reposed in the justice and wisdom of parliament, and to trust lie the revival of agricultural prosperity by continuing the sans ragentsnt of labour, by i es the demand for your peal dues, by removing nay remasaing restriction on trade. This country has advantages over every other country in the world, passaged of skill in which we are superior, and the command of every element of prosperity.. I would isa pion you to trust to your superiority in all the.. natural advantages, and never main to soak your prosperity by restriction mos the efma morn and the enterprise of your I. This, sir, was my propoen, adopted in 18413 lie en r = 1 :11 the condition of this country, coutimod by subsequent ape• risme, and I hops I shall never live to Ise tho day when the House of Commons will retrace its steps. Lord J. RUSSELL—Before the house come to a dot km. I teal it to be my duty to slats (at this late hour I shall dle le as briilly se I can) the reams why, as • minister of crown, s feel itsy duty to resist the motion of the him potions& The Ma. gentleataa has come forward, sad hi a speech of which the temper and ability is generally Miaow leded, has proposed to us to go into • eammition on the subject of the poor rotas, with a view to the relief of the agriculturists. The hot. gentleman has told us that it we go into committee, he shall propose three sena tints, of wnich the effect of the first will be to transfer to the Consolidated Fund the whole expense of the establis meat of the poor law. The hoa gentleman reckoned that upwards of two millions might first be transferred; he went on to say most fairly, not concealing his object, that this was but one of a series at measures. Now, sir, I object ia the first plan to the swan of the hoe. gentlemen, Imam I think the allegation, that It is founded in jostles, sad Is required by justice, has not been proved. lint if it wen proved that this sacrifice was a emaedaA_ by jun. Ike, I ask then how it could be contesisi She remaining 10.000,000 i. are to be disposed of ? The claims of jesting apply to the whole 12,000,81 K a well as two millions. I say, then, that the right lem. peatienan the member for Ripen was perfectly well hoodhol whoa he said that he contemplated this was not the whole Nap, bat some 14 or 18 Bilious would follow the But an the next place I do not think there is any jtZrit this claim, it you compare the whole burden of the sometey, as laid on its various clams, that there is that unfair pen sure which the hon. gentleman says. And lot us coander Low far the richer, as compared with the agricultural inte rest, are affected by taxation. With respect to the leicaos duty, that duty does sot affect landed property, but It asses the bulk of personal property. Then, again, in the Soma tax theta is an isequality which I believe mast be avoided bu: whisk cannot be denied—viz., that three who obtain their imams by exertion of professional skill, and when abilities to earn that jocose may cease at my moment, are equally taxed with those who have an herds try supply. Toon are upwards of 11 millions which are raised op the excise. There are other excise customs to which the hon. member for Ripon referred which affect those clams, end induce them to contriltate in the greatest degree to the taxation of th. country. So that Ido not blame that as • general proposition, if it can be maintained that rents are unfairly burdened, taking the whole taxation of this country ; but suppose that On claim is not founded in jos. tin, Ist nis consider U it is expedient to remove this tax. On that subject I should not be tustitied in pre suming there would be a surplus of two millions, and this bosse consinted to deal with I. If we come after the estimates are voted, we eons to balance the estimates and the expenditure of next year, and there will bs two millions remaining; and if there are not two million reinsining as surplus, the hon. gentleman would bate to propose new WWI to defray this charge; but farther than that, I must say that having increseed the debt of this country within the last few year., it will be our duty, wieners the but: the year asks forward, to see dearly that then In all probability, a salvias of income above the expenditure in the next year which may go to dilatable the interest of the general debt. It would be more popular Uwe should think it our duty to go on the revision of the Maths gooey quarter ; bat I will not say we Send take that eagle THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 22, 1850. is the het imiesse. Bat is the sex eoppseleg _Met the hew were le aseig ii .—test as - - I Wok — thee the while sinks may be apes, to go at ems to the resdnies of ask I ie set aka it who to deals sew that the whole et the ramikies ahead he gives a all peeper% end Med yes shall pada* per mit haa kg as tint ban Mei* am the ether. At le the leaded Metal, ken is Ise **set et that her bees Wand le he a ammithe the it Leeds whisk wee app elect fir the egedsl purpeee ass the Masao s had--ead I met regent the w tiw toes her. seateur he Ilashiesham es thissilPZ bemuses he ha tell us this whet e azieselesr mealy tike he the end baled 'regattas mad orkeeeNals bat to the IM9 peso= eke ems mimed le Ism to interest in leed. Mew an those posswaso leseled im S the taus sew is brae with resale to Issas? It is by the seamieles ed the Heim et Leek, that ea • Male the taa is 124 re .at, ea 1081. soh kis 6 per ask, mud above the sum of 1001. it cal, eases* le 1 per teat. ; and they state father, from as Smidgens et Kr. Baxter, _dist kr 1001. mortgage it would sea IM., sal kr MOM It would an Ilk Therefore it myna keit this smell pre• pastor, who should wish to mengage to the sass* of 811 4 woad ham so lem M per =law pay upea bk property kw shape sad whilst die Area isangsge proprietor who to eacetepige kis property t. the acted el 120,0004 weeid bare se Naas this 12e. to pay. Whim the isonsueelk seemlier wee albs the ettionWa of the MEN to 200,011 small cal lailegoadeat yam's, it was set aseistest with that peeptaliks to ask this house le rate to a reeeisties waif - weak esikely pealed. the gaseessest sad veil prided, Mistime ikon estatainhig peepeaties witch woad lest le Masi& the gnat sad esenrigiatm boa des Ma Owe was apes these small I will sow Ark to war taxes , to whisk both Milt himeeskie wise spoke lot sad the = agist_heassialde I rk member for Rips have anode' ; bats Mar• ime MAK whisk fell fnn the hosessraile goadeseas the member for Rips of whisk I meet take sake, brawl thick then am apprehosimis entereand which might pia dervery serious - alma Yeas of war seissim—l tees thp et the sight hos. radials that a tax might hi i tir i =ages Weald deers. I will set disease the gem tiss ishetheir yr she it It possible, or whether It is adviasbk, to redeem the dap es heap timber, bet this I must al, that parlienest, fa Malberately roduleg thedety to Is., sat Canada, width is seek aseereadi k the duty, An mitered greatly hese Me expeasika whisk had out by the is et 1843, that a to a great =tat at this muter Ise era would be to Canada. There are ether emaderallems Whisk haw set 1t... mash adverted to in the aune es akin dakeik with regard to the ezposditure which would hi is. raised fonder this proposed treader. We know very well that so keg r the matter of establishment' ere sada lead ttrirrthough they toad to meant* the legal teem n ' strong reason for vigilance" whisk it weal be very difficult for a pubtle board seek or the per law somunisidowin to emends,. (Hear, hear.) Then le wry gnat due that the expiates all be very mak parsed. Hat Wks' that, there Is a pert the proposal of Ms hes. pothers the aembet tor Breda Malley le Me leseder to the Falls remain whisk I ow Ihe with eery aesidemsble surprise. It le that et the mad per. (Hew, beer.) Now, if any one dare pea in.. than another would lease ea increase to the nessilitsee hem agligeses sad want of control, it Is ea* list et die awieripier ; tad I will show you free a astemest width hoboes mask this house with regard albs boners of per law ribragoe, what has hum the fames, with ngasd to the imend poor, It was dated by Mr. Ward, wises member for Sheikh, that the casual par of kat lowa had caused an Menage is the expenditure in the awn et stow years of hem 13,0001. to 60,0001.. and I task he eased that the increase was in the ratio of 28,000 la IMO, et MANI la 1841, and of 62,000 in 1642. (11ser.) I wake OW that statement did not allude merely to casual pier, hat the rapid increase from 13,0001. to 50,0001. closely its la what way a charge of this kind may be increased Is a few pen. How would it be porible for my right hen (dead the President of the Poor-law Board, ooaducting,ei he does, and as is generally acknowledged, the duties of his aka with seek great ear* and ability—how would it be pool* fur him to Mite at the amount of expenditure incurred forks maistensace of the wend poor sou to make any rotors age M. entiket. Well, then, if it is net advisable on the averei ad the charges to be thus transferred, or of the *spews of the transfer, or the coaaequent raisossnagesthat, there is still another part of the statement of the hon. gentleman which he and oaten very clearly made, and whisk I think deserves I the most serious consideration. 'The hos. podium stated that that wee the first of a series of rewilations, The adds MA the member for Colchester (Lord John Mereere), Add that this was not the debt, bat oily • ponies of the debt, which was owing to the landed interest. (Hear, hear.) Is the house pre. pared to take the first sup in this direction with the &barna. dye either of carrying out or of refusing the latter measure in whisk the hes. gentleman referred. (Hear.) The right Ma. patients, the member for Oxford (Mr. Gladstone), mid be be sure that it is the usual way of persons who oppose any reform, to say that it will lead to other namoures. But the right hon. gentleman refers to what is said by the oppo nents of • measure ; this is said by one of the authors of the useasure, by the very person who brings it forward. et Hear, hear," and laughter.) Lit us can et what these measure. are. The hon. gendeman the member for Bucks presented a Rstition to-night from Bucking ham, or some place in its neighbourhood, which I suppose has been drawn up in support of hie motion, and °miming opinions to which he anent'. The petitioners pray that you will give them especially effectual relief by assenting to such matures as I shall entail on real property the payment of • fair and just proportion of the eeeee us of the country. Bat they do not stop them. Tbsy proceed to ask for sect measures as shall render competition equal at least with the foreigner by raking la portion of the ravenus from forsian importations. Now, these words mean, se I understand them, a duty upoa all articles of importation, especially the article corm. (Hear.) This is, therefore, • proposition Weida is to lead us here after—first. to • mach farther and more extensive transfer of the burdens on tenderising from the poor rates to the Con solidated Fund ; and, in the next plate, to • return and re , vied of protection. The right hon. gentleman the member ' for Oxford ( Mr. Gladstone) has treated this part of the I subject la a manner that has very much surprised am The right hon. manna stated that if the hasp adopted this proposition it would reduce tdn eakatum for the restoration of protection. I lover beard wriems a consequence, and I cannot imagine how giving a eletery so the persons who are desirous of a return to Crtiiwill weary their arms, or quiet and induce : refrain from further aditation. (Hear, hoer.) I think, notwithstanding all that the tight honourable gen tleman (Mr. Gladstone) has said, that it is w holly dear that the person who should have the sesautiog of that masons, and should tarry first a resolation to go into a committee of the whole house, and nest, a measure that is to disturb, and afterward's to regu late anew the whole finances of the nada'. I say It is perfectly clear that that person should be in of fios as • zniabter under the crown. (Hear, hear.) It will be contrary to all precedent that we should attempt to carry it into greet. The hoc. gentlemen opposite, then, with Lord Stanley, in their official position, will then, of course, propped to satisfy tile times& of sair friends in the country, and there le say truth in the report would spe ed ily demand a !shwa to the protective system. And the hos. gentle. tees so doubt would very soon propose mate further swans for the restoration of the import duties on articles ken which the right hon. gentleman opposite (Sir H. Peel) induced parliament to remove them. When the ben. amber introduces such a proposition, the right hon. gluttonies (Sir it. Peel) will, I conclude, oppose it, and if die right hon. gentleman were siateasiul in that op position, in which I should join him, for it "MUM for • moment be samosa' that having gained the bet stop, they will really be content with the Witliag con mission to their wishes ; and if that step should be taken which is so often talked about, and with so little delicacy,— I mean a dissolution of parliament—the subject which the right boo. hart opposite (Sir R. Peel) has declared to Is I more fittingly discussed is debate in this Mew will he tractferred to all the hastier of the country, mil I theedd like to know with what effect ? Sorel: not that Arid se by the right hon. member for Gaited (Mr. Glableta4 should imagine that the rank wet of lam* be great increase in the *talks sod ammelha of the agricultural interest for the sildensmt thsir objects. (Hear.) My right hos. hind, lin other sight, quoted returns which showed how goat bad bees the diminution of the burdens landed interest slam 1813. (Hear, hoe r . In at those returns I find that while in 1816 Ludw i g= property charged for the relief of the poor was as mete nine, in 1849 it was as one to fifteen, that is tabbies whole of the real property, not making a &dudes between the land and other kinds of real pgeperq. If that be the case ' and if land has at the seas tines iseremed in value I beg the house to consider whore thh aleviation of their burdens has seism. It has arisen from nothing but the imams of the wealth of the cautery, from the intros's in the manufactures, common* ad indoatry of country. (" Hear, hear," and cheers!) I believe se that source has been, from 1815 to 1849, so gnat a relief, If Me commerce and manufacturse of the country continue to flourish that their burden will be still further relieved by in tha first place, those who are engaged in commerce ad anaufsetures Umiak a great part of the burdens, and la the next place by thew having the best market in the woad ready at hand at which to dispote of their agricultural produce of all kinds. (Cheers.) Such I Delete' to be the true interests of agriculture; such I believe to be the tree interests of the landed interests of this country. (Load cheers.) If, on the other hand, they take the advice of s noble duke, sad say we will not attempt to farm high, or to lay eat money on our Lad, and by which we shall improve it, bat that we will tarn our attention to a political speculatka and see if we cannot get a new parliament, a restored= et protection, I believe, instead of that flourishing earllthea, they will keep the country in agitation, and that the allevia tions I have mentioned will not have the effort which, under other circumstances, they might. But 1 have no doubt, although I think the landed interests of the country have been of late misled ia the views which they take of their own condition and interests, I I say I have no doubt that in a short time they will set with the spirit of a certain celebrated shipowner, who last year wrote ably In f of the navigation laws, and whose latter has been quoted in the house, I mean Mr. Lindsay; bat who sow says the navigation laws are gone ; let us set with the Nada d Itaglitbarr, let us ice if we puma get better Ben to essaand our ships, if we cannot build our vessel, shaper and of improved construction, and try If if we MOOS stand • competition with the whole world. Mat is the csee—if the shipowner has to send hie ships ewer the seas to the remotest parts of the world—what is Mere to prevent the agiioultural interest from competing, at home tad dose to their own doors, with any foreigners who trey mewl aisle perdue to this seantry ? It woo are that Nosiest was she ant heartry taloa ono. try. Ist Potreo and Zassia the tun bore • Yoe dea to the dal lama el the respeethe esuatrin. T= tr are se iambics fa the way *1 presparlty BM& brake whisk skill ad bivalves, Wilt set overeetre. The noble lewd concluded midi as satrptio sulenp ea lf fliz Z. Peel's notices sod take% esd sashed ea ex of mingled awsat sod wee% toy ise/wrlai his belie that ere leztr . vales et the boa. bsseast's pobils sonless weld be many askaowledged. fant 1111 flat SINTINCK saki he wished Se airway a few at tae namatits bereed, Ile amber Ise Tai. warlL (“ Was, Met,'' boa the pnataltisaista.) Giving way Is a weeks= widish le had shown, not he tie bottom ha that haw, ha mete some taamarkt a his (Loa H. Inagaa) whist' had base itm2 c iadeasai by the labia Mil widen (Hew, hear.) TM Ms. Mime had aninse (Lard K. &missal) of Ariel Ida with takebaad and berm. flle E. PlEL—Trewabory. Lord HENRY BENTINCE essidared Set out the Mill thing. He would now tell the rialtt hes. berme what he did say, pressadag that alleges was te whet had fails from him at the antis' at Watford. He had sisillsl that the rightism. baronet wise eery bosetelast poems, sad had said that his alreusestasess Masi his, better gm these agrlealtarists who held so fasded or persseal propestp. to deal Ebert* With kls trouts. He had she sold dud Is the beet of Lk popular be ,lief tons.fourth of the rfght has. basset's crty was is had, and tans hurtles la mosey or the If the right ban. basset woad sew state that It wee the trues,—would say that he had three-foarths Ia kel sad aso.hosith .sly la money, he (Lord Henry) would be sollikal f" Oh, ,eh " end laughter.) Probably he had earlOiw en bad, which was wetly to the same Wog. (Hew, Sir IL PEEL. (Chess.) Sir, lan redly quite ogumtd at Sontag :the hosts. (Hear, Mac) It is test the wigs lord add at a pabile staetiag that I had a dime pleassel /s -tatist la passing the repsal of ths corn laws, boom. M had roma to Slim, with respect to up propenty„ that tt was throniteuthe is the furls, sad oao.fossth fr leaded estate. Ha sow ado Ise to assert that it is three.fourtbs is !sod asd only implharth Ia saataiy, sad also what/see I hare 111111 11011Mwog (; d ang . ltar.) If it is a 'adobe. des Is Jibs asbis MC I will tall 1....ga thss I have mot ow (Hear, sere) What I said rite ss iala bleVr i tres, th mixt erft 'he bad last rerirsaf his stets !welt tad sell that I had three bertha is lass end saw Mena la the (sada, he would hare boss nearer the MIL Mr. DISRAELI lad he had Wetted with umessiitiag attend , * to this debate, shish was ono el unusual iaterest. (Rear, boar.) One cherasiseistie et it wee, that may pa thos. who had the tho meths had studiously avoided dimming the ismiest. (Rear, hear.) The right hes. tamest HIM Sesostary had dose him the honour of anewerthe • spank which he made hat year, sad also one which be had made fa the mast, of Rooe . bat be had for teotmaswer th e speech be bed made the ethos night. (Kear, bear.) The rioht him hornet bed esimesd to the legitimism., and mired what peed until aII that de, unless he game forward end met the tweeds. el settlement ? He was either surprised at tido, sit was may that morning he had kern that the report et the conunissionen on the law of settlement was ea the table. In eilmsth the first pogo of that report, he focal it stated as the *pinks of eas of the mat distinguished of the essuabeiceees, the gement feeling of sae eon was entirely wheat the 'sitting law et set ; bat it was also mid to be aa equally gamma *pintos that it would set do to laterfse with the law of sett/meat unites these suss a simultaneous interference with the means by which the poor rote was levied. (Rear.) Re also stated that on this subject there was a variety of *ideas I. the country. How, then, could the right hos. gent easa In candour have asked him to move a resolution I. oosualttes as a subject ea whlith the gapers set woe not prepared to legislate ? Therielithes. gentleman said he had fallen into the same error as be had remained lest year. that of confounding real pro= ss e g t o th pentad property. Why, if there were the Wof the debate of last year more sabot than fraitre it was that the speedos, however feebly it might have boss mask want bast put in a properandligitimate shape. Pre wrier s i the house had been drawn into debates ors what were " the birdies's land," sad those who introdased that subject were met with the usual sad ready resset that ether kis& d property were equally subject as each hemehme. Last year the dissuades was gnu the hardens es reel pre potty; and the right hon. gentleman could set have bees mistaken on that polaLhaving hiesseU prepseed resolutioss iseelvlog the quarries ea width the &Aka was takes. (Rear, hear.) Now it seemed to be amthilesed a very great sin es the part of the agriculturists that they had premised to devise a mode affording some relief to themselves whisk would at the same time afford relief to other classes. (Laughter, sad hoer, hear.) Nothing could exceed the astonishment of the government—nothing could exceed the bleak confusion of the altra.rnathaists who sat beneath the gangway. (Laughter.) That men should be so besotted. se iguerant of their own interests, as to props, a rsmissios of taxation which would benefit other classes et het Haiestes subjects as well as agriculturists, was a most naperffsmentery prooteding. (Laughter.) Why, consider- Mg the withal state of thorium* connected with the land, and believing, as he did, that in a large, skilful, and just re adjustment of caution lay the only practical means of re lieving the land, he knew nothing mere important than that they should found all their somments upon principle ; nothing more important than that, instead of seeking to avail them selves of any accidental combination of parties, and to enter into a scramble for the public resources, they should address public opinion with arguments founded on a great principle, and make an appeal founded on the greatest of all principles, namely, that of national justice. (Cheers.) He could not coat:sive It to be • sound objection that it was not merely the classes connected with the cultivation of the toil who would benefit by a policy which was recommended on principles of so broad and enduring • character. (Cheers.) Be it that there were other classes of real pre, party which contributed as mush u, or more than, the cul tivated soil of Ragland towards the maintenance of the poor. He would not object to the return to which the right hon. gentleman had referred, though he believed it was erroneous in minor details, and that a subsequent return would, if pro duced, refute it ; for he had never for a moment made any distinction as to the various classes of real property. Re read • passage from a former speech of Sir Janne Graham Willow alleged inconsistency in his opinions, and said, amid the laughter of the house, that though Sir R. Peel had ob jected to the form of this napkin, as precluding discussion, he lad contrived to discuss this and all other motions of his (Mr. Dietaries ) at great length and with great ability. " Bat what," he exclaimed, will the right honourable baronet do • hen he really dors discuss the matter ? At what hour of W night will he rise, at what hour of the morning sit dowa ?" But it waled that a cabinet secret had come out, and that the universal depression among the occupying te state of England was to be allayed by • remission of a tax upon landlords—the tax upon bricks ! The surplus " was now treated as imaginary but was it not so treated ea the first night of the amiss, wben Hr. V il liers was b ro ught down, in weaseeslined awl nessiacisat array, to stead godfather to the sew sommercial prosperity. That illaieleated edition of the speech from the drone treated the supim mno ireagthaties. He then alluded to " vagrant raters" sad claptrap about big loaves and small loives, sad lssisd that this question could be *titled by a vote of the Rouse of Commons. Sir Robert Peel had discussed Me quaff= as if it were one between the aristocracy sad the community; but it was not the aristocratic dement that was agitating now. The agitators were men of limited means and thrifty babies. He disputed the figures of his opposents, especially showing that half a million of the relief would go to Ireland ; and he appealed to the Irish members to join him, and obtain a remission of 610.00 W. • year. instead of lingering in the dismal ante drnhere of Downietstreet, and being laughed at in that his., as people who, when they asked • loan, meant a gift, He concluded by saying that he was not answerable for the variety of topics introduced Into the dispassion, and he de dared the measure to be for the benefit of 260,000 landed proprietors, who asked that house for simple justice. The house then divided— For the motion Against it 273-21 The result of the division was received with vehement cheering from the proteetioniste, which was met by similar sheers from the ministerial benches, and the house adjourned at half-past 1 o'clock. [The pressure on our epees obligee us to omit the parlia mentary business for this evening.] TOo Nzw Housz op COMMONIL—The new ohm box for the Commons Is now so fez completed that it will, according to present intention., be seed for the day sittings of the •houe Cu the Wednesdays after Easter. The un finished condition of the gas and light apparatus render it awasamy to retain the existing arrangement for the evening sittings during the present session. Taz EXPELLED WESLEYAN MINISTER/.—A great meeting of the members of the Wesleyan body, " favourable to reform," was held in Birmingham on Wednesday night. Speeches were delivered by Mews. Dunn, Griffiths, and and the meeting resulted in the adoption of resolu tions, declaratory of firm attachment to the doctrines con tained in the writings of John Wesley, but expressive of regret that the ;discipline of Wealeyanfin, se now existing, was opposed to Christianity, also regretting a recent declara tion of conference, signifying that it has closed its ears to the vein of its people; and, thirdly, condemning the laws of 1835, in the belief that they were contrary to the laws of which they professed to be declaratory, and opposed to the teachings of the new testament; entertaining these views, the meeting resolved that the time had arrived when ostensive reforms are imperatively called for, and appointed delegates to attend the approaching aggregate meeting for this purpose. ASYLUM FOR THE INDIGENT BLIND OF THE 'SWISH PIRSUASION.—Lut evening the anniversary ball In aid of the funds of this institution took place at Willies Rooms, King-street, Bt. James's. A large nasals'r of pi opts were assemble i on the occasion, and the result of the enter tainment appeared to be highly satisfactory to the wormy as well as beneficial to the institution. DUBLIN AND LIVERPOOL STEAM-SHIP COMPANY. —A general meeting of the directors and proprietors of this e.tmpany was held on Wednesday, at their oftloe, In Dublin. James ki.Cullegb, Esq , in the chair. Resolutions wen ' passed to the effect that the company be dissolved ; that their vessels be withdrawn from the line at the end of neat Marsh; that all necessary mrasures be adopted for carrying out the dissolution; that no further call be made without ' the consent of a general meeting ; that a dividend be made • amongst the shareholders in case of any funds being realised, 1 and that a final meeting of the company be held within three motes to render valid the proceedings of the present meet- I lON. sad of transiting such other badness as may be re- I gllitite. NARY DIVISION. 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Denison, John R. Lushington, Charles Trenton, Robert J. !revenue John T. Macklanon,W. A. Thicknesse, Ralph A. V tryncourt, C. T. wean% W. T. Thompson, Colonel Divert, Edward M'Orroor. John Thorley. Thomas Doe.glaa, Sir C. E. M'Teggart, Sir John Tollanache, lion.E.J. I MUM Marquis of Mahon, the O'G. ,JCLTowneley Drummond, H. Hone Mangles. Ross D. Townshend, ptain DulL George S. Meridian, William Trelawny, John S. Duke, Sir James Martin, John Tyote, Cal. C. 1. K. Duncan, George Martin. C. W. Verney, Mr Harry IJuncombe, Thanes Martin, Samuel Villiers, Hon. Chas. Ductal, John Masterman, John Vivian, John Si. Dundas, Admiral Mutineers, Alex. Wakley. Thomas Dundas, lion. Sir D. Matheson, James Wall, Charles B. Ebrington. Viscount Matheson, Cal. Walrasky. Sir Joshua Ellice, Rt. Hon. E. Maule, Rt. lion. Fox Watkins, Col. Lloyd Ellice, Edward Melgund, Viscount Wawn, John T. Eilis. John Milner, W. M. E. Willcox, B. M`Ghle Elliot, Hon. John E. Milne% Richard IL Williams, John 1 Enfield, Viecaunr Milton, Vi-count Williamson, Sir 11. Evans Sir de Lacy Mitchell, Thomas A. Wilson, James Enos, John Moffatt, George Wilson, Matthew Evans, William Morison, Sir William Wad, William P. Fagan, William Morris, David Wortley, Rt. Un.J. S. Fergus, John Warns, tin. E. Si. L. W Wyld. James Ferguson, Sir R. A. 'lomat, Francis yvill, Marmad - ' /Pussy lion. Henry Illulgrave, Earl of Foley, John H. 0. mum., George F. Fyoe, Alex. D. Moneys, Lard Forster, Matthew Narreya, Sir D. J. Veneerer, Mehra/en O'Brien. Tinout.7 MUM/. Tarifa, IL 11114 Lord Moreno ghe eimregis. OUTGOING MAILS. The mails for British North America and the United States will be made ap this evening, Feb. 22. The mails yid Marseilles, to the Mediterranean, Egypt, Ceylon, India, Hong-Kong, &c., will be made up on the evening of Feb. 25. The mails for Lisbon, Spain, aad Gibraltar will be made ap on Feb. 27. The West India Mails, including Bermuda, Ravennab, Nassau Honduras, New Orleans, and Mexioo,land excluding thews f or Madeira, St. Juan-de-Nicaragua, New Granada, Chili, and Peru,will be markup on March 2. The mails for Marais, the Brasile, and Buenos Ayres, will be made up on the evening of March 4. The mails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian Islands, Egypt, Ceylon, India, and China, via Southampton, will be made up on the morning or March 20. NIGH RATAN AT LONDON SHIM& Thu Mt —MAMAS. Oh. Na Aftenoos. 10 h. 17*. To-rosiow—hlonalw, 111. 1a A/Down'. DM as LONDON, FRIDAY. FEBRUARY 22. NEVER has a sovereign, or a sovereign's ministers, been more chary of conferring the honour of the peerage than Queen Victual*. We do not make the remark in the way of either censure or complaint, but of inquiry. One or two law-lords have been created, and one or two military magnates have had their laurels wreathed into coronets, both promotions of routine. But other sources of ennoblement, once so abundant, have been dried up. Neither states manship, nor diplomacy, nor acquired wealth, whether by monied men in trade, or by country gentlemen, have either been admitted into the House of Lords, or even rapped for admission. The upward current of honours and ambition has somehow ceased. A gene ral feeling has come to prevail that a peerage is a barren honour. It no longer commands for self or family the patronage or the place it once did. It entails expense, without providing resources. Supe riority e wealth, of knowledge, or worth, are more and more difficult of maintaining hereditarily. And ministers shrink from conferring a boon of such doubtful advantage, whilst at the same time they are beset by lees expectations and less demands. Whether this makes any material difference or not to the country, it cannot be without! results to the upper house of parliament, between the members of which and other classes a far greater gnlph will be sunk than has hitherto been customary or than may be advisable. The entire tendencies of the Gaut and aristocracy have been to be come more and more exclusive, and that at a time when the whole tide of events and ideas, not only in England, bat in Europe, is setting in a premeelycantmry direction. It certainly behoves any governing mind that may exist in England to think of this, and not to disdain turning attention to it. If we regard what is passing elsewhere ; if we contemplate the ideas, the interests, the powers, which are rising up in all countries, and which, despite of the faults, and blunders, and crimes of po pular parties, will probably continue to rise, we see all the elements of social eminence compelled to group together and make common cause, in order to keep up any thing like gradation or authority of rank. Birth, wealth, and intellect, are the three elements of superiority, which, if united and in good understanding with each other, can preserve a whole some and conservative influence. Bit if our present state of society, in which birth treats wealth as a parvenu and an intruder, and considers intellect as a mere pauper and a serf—if this old feudal order of beetle be that in which modern aristocracy is to march against democracy, we can in that case prophesy with certitude what will be the result of the struggle. There ars,moreover, other and higher considerations than those of expediency or fear ; there is the sense of what is decorous and jus`. And, it may be asked, is it decorous, is it just, that in this great commercial country the senate should be confined exclusively to one class of men, one kind of property, and one colour of ideas, instead of collecting, rallying, and making use of all the gravity, dignity, experience, talent., and worth of the land ? There is no states man amongst us, we are confident, who can be satisfied with the position which the House of Lords has occu pied during late rare, and who must not see the necessity of communicating new life and vigour and • broader nationality to the upper house of parliament. As j ournalists, we cannot but perceive, nor should we *brink to record, that the debates and the business of the House of Lords are yearly losing in interest; that there is a prosiness, a sameness and iteration in them, that savours sadly of age ; that its speakers are worn out, and few; and that they indulge rather in party and personal squabbles, than general discus sions on public affairs, worthy of the senate of a great country. These reflections have been suggested by Mr. Jocas LOYD, the celebrated City banker, being about to be called to the House of Lords, under the name of Baron OVERSTONE. The choice is more creditable to the ministry, as Mr. JONES LOYD has chosen to be a man of small political influence. It is remarkable, indeed, that two of the most eminent men that the City of London has produced of late years, Mr. GROTE sad Mr. JONES Loin, should have shrunk in disgu st from politics. Disappointed of his election for anchester in 1532, Mr. Lou) has resolutely declined every offer of constituencies to re turn him to parliament. And at this late hour it is only on the condition of his quitting the business of a banker that he is admitted to the hereditary senate. Now, with every respect for the Lords, and for heir house, we do not see what they gain in dignity or respect by excluding the owner and manager of capital, more than the owner and manager of land. Mr. Loin and Mr. GROTE attended to their count ing-houses as much as country gentlemen to their estates. But no country gentleman made better use than they of leisure in the study of politics, the pur suits of literature, and the cultivation of taste. One of the most important legislative measures of late years, and in many respects a successful one, is generally known to have originated with Mr. Lost). Surely a wealthy man possessed of such sagacity and science, and at the same time too fas tidious to work his way into the lower hone, of parliament, was of all others the statesman whom the upper house should not have done without. Nor do we see why the condition ahouli be imposed of becoming one of the agricultural interest, tether than remaining in his original profession of an active capitalist. NVe say all this without the least disrespect for the aristocracy; and we certainly indicate the way not to undermine, bat to strengthen it. For far from thinking that the power of the aristocracy, and the authority of the House of Lards, depend upon. what Mr. DISRAELI calls our " territorial constitution," we are, on the contrary, convinced, that all the elements of true aristocracy must be ended to, and blended with, that of birth, if it is to resist the en croachments and detrition of the popular tide. MR. HAWES'S answer to the question which Mr. Divear put to him en Wednesday respec ing the barque Indian was satisfactory as far as i: went. Mr. Hawes stated that, should the reports of immoral conduct on the part of the officers of the Indian to wards the female passengers tura out to be correct, "the Emigra ion G:mmissioners would be instructed to enforce the severest penalties p.rmitted by law." Punishment for such offences is right and proper, but some are of opinion that prevention would be better. Might not the linigration Commissioners be in structed to try to prevent the recurrence of such dis graceful outrages? From a c3rrespondence between the immigration agent of South Australia and the Secretary of the Colony, it is pretty obvious that not all the em i doyes of the Emigration Commissioners are characterised by promptitude and energy in the discharge of their I duty. The letters of Captain BREWER betray great reluctance to inquire into the state of affairs on bard the Indian. That vessel arrived at Port Ade:aide on the s:h of Auguit ; Captain BREwsit's first report is dated the 3rd of September. It is meagre and un satisfactory in the extreme, although at the time it was drawn up the whole colony was ringirg with the complaints of the immigrants by the Indian ; and although Captain BREWER states, " from what I have seen of the second mate, I can resdily believe that he acted in the manner represented." Captain BR ENA ER'S reply to the Colonial Secretary when instructed to (sport more fully is impertinent and evasive : he dwells on unimportant irrelevant points. and flip pantly adds, " I regret I have not made my report satisfactory to his Excellency, tut I did not intend it u a report on the statements of the South ..iu.!ralion .Reeister." In what we have hitherto noticed there is apparent neglect of duty, and the impertinence of an under bred man when reminded of his omissions by those in authority over him. But there are worse features in Captain BREWER'S letters. Even in his original meagre report there is a palpable att:mpt to screen the officers of the Indian. He states thst " there are some persons always among the emigrants whom nothing would satisfy," and that " the respectable and well-conducted have the fewest complaints." He does not venture to assert that this was the case on board the Indian: the general statement is therefore un meaning and out of place, Weis it was intended to insinuate, what Captain BREWER did not dare to affirm, that the emigrants, not the officers of the Indian, were to blame. Up to the date of his report Captain BREWER does not appear to have examined into the truth or falsehood of the charges against the officers of the Indian, and yet he takes upon him, both directly and by implication, to exonerate ail of them except the second mate. Captain BREWER'S report of his meeting with the emigrants and the officers of the Indian is marked still more unequivocally by quibbling special plead ing in behalf of the latter. He lays great stress on the " very turbulent nature" of the proceedings. 'This is true official cant : Captain BREWER'S equanimity is unmoved by the revolting acts attributed to the officers, but he is shocked and indignant bemuse the emi grants express themselves more warmly than the cue seems to him to warrant. His report slurs ever the charges advanced and proved against the officers, and yet when cross-questioned by ti. e Governor and Colonial Secretary he is obliged to admit the general accuracy of the report of the meeting in the Ad elu Ult. Ohse r ver, which we published some time ago. Comparing that report with Captain BREWER'S statement, we find him asserting that the captain and surgeon were not aware of the second mate's miseoaduct, although it was proved that Miss ARNOLD complained of him; and glossing over the tefutal of the surgeon to re ceive a complaint addressed jointly to him and the captain. Captain BREWER, in his anxiety to screen o o n n y board the t f: li n ehee ra se nts t, the officers of the Indian quotes the evidence of a that had . the investiga tion able to bring forward exculpatory witnesses—ho 1 Captainlli o ha n oi n b ws e e te r n etPh m ;: a ill made sooner, unanimouswhosoi o n j e n rt aht testim ony te captain him self having been the sole cause of the delay. It is to be hoped that when . HANUS instructs the Emigration Commissionera4 intact the utmost t., <,-': I ._ C ...I • = ♦ ;