The Express. — London, England, 1855-05-15 00:00:00

like condemnation of him ? (Hear, hear.) He bad ao b a ttalion in speaking to Lord Raglan's fitness for the eom maa, a nd, without saving whether he might net have been el s een greater advising. to hie country as ea adviser at Mme daring the course of the war, yet he did not believe that, if this war were to be undertakes, her Majesty void have found a single individual better qualified for t h e position that he occupied. (Hear, bear) It WY on doubt a truism that they tuner sod their admiration of the ma ny deeds of valour by which the allied tones had illus. triad their brotherhood in eras, and he believed it was right to &chin that amidst all their disappointments the people of this country owl retained the ger emu feelings that led them at the comnieocemert of the war willingly to place ell the mans required teem them at her Majesty's disposai-o, that they wouid still protect the weak against the op. pression of the strong, and that they fete sot prepared to consent that Russia should, by her 'terse**, pee. ponders'', so control the Turkish government ell practically to hold Coustautinnplo within her peep This wee not, however, a fitting opportunity No entering into n discussion of the policy of the war, but the, erioild have annther oppiirtnnity to do that on the motios '4 which notice had been given, and then they could expose more empuiicilly their opinion'', and he should it. dimple pointed indeed if their iordshipe house and the House a C 0131109114 un the issue to be esind on the audios la the noble earl (Grey) and AY an boo. gentleman is meths house—be should be disappointed if their lorilsbit a' busts mad the o.her helm did Lir, by a vote of almost eusaiminy i , prove to foreign ccuotiits and to the world at large elWr opinion of the justice of the war, and that their efforts to. tarry it threuith would be damped by no omporary failure of sacons—he should indeed be disappointed if those feelings were not male IL tiniest by the •ftabialO*ll feeling it that and toe other house. (Cheers) &a he diffsred from the noble lord as to the view be took of the war, he thanked him for giving parliament an opportunity to ex press their opinions, and he trusted that the &obis earl would test the leeling of the house by divining. A. to the criticism of h.. noble friend on tact conduct of toe war, had say minister natured to say Viar the espedition was sot undertaken in ignorance. and at an oath period of the year, without s knowledge of the resources of the enemy, and without proper precintions ? It was ail very well to my that there was • diffsnace of opinion between Lord Hard wick* sad level Illieetiorough, for Lord Hardwick* nate rally referred more to his own profession, but is condemns tins of the system of lucking up the army in the Crises, when it as more besieged than balesiog, there was no difference of ooini tn between them. Earl OR aNVILLE made as explanation which did sot neck the gaiter,. The Esti of DEBUT—The noble duke opposite, is his evidence, bad fairly acknowledged the , be had no idea at thc commeutement of anythiog like a siege, and as to preparing clothing and buts an anticipatan of the army being the whole wiener in the Crimes, that wasn't thought of, bat it appeared that they thought they were going int/ Sebastopol wituout difficulty. :her resources were inetficient from the beginearg, sad it was from the want of resource that the troops have been exposed to hardships from which they might have been saved. *the troops had suffered from sheer exhaastioo, and if they bad not been able to make good roads, it was because Sep could not be spared from the trenches, vs? Sir John Burgoyne said if they had ttonporseily with draws men from the trenches to make the road, the enemy would have eeisAl the works, and there would have bees doable work to do. The noble earl opposite said that they took no r win i f the electric telegraph and the railroad, hat Sir Jahn Burgoyne sad the reentries would have been of wee um in anstiog the road in October, and why were they not tent in o.:t.iber has', ad of to April ? The noble earl talked of the inventious of modern times, hut railroads were as well known in October as in Aoril—(a laugh)—and be was at • I A. to unde-stand why it b •d not been made in April. Toe Minister of Wu eald he erit quite surprised at • the mention of employing the right pen us is the right planer ' as a X one siogl• initiate had been brought forward wheretne rob: poems had nut In C 4 in their p"..ces at the right tame. He din not know whether they were there en sot, hat they did natio their work in • fitting manner —(hear)—tot it wale Out be iireaied that the eummima run, the ' ranee, the medical ileparmente, had failed. He as not suing to look into the various cases, and say whether so and so w.s fit tor his duly, for it wee 'efficient to look end .in , whether the services of toe depot-la:at. were properly perturmsd. Tura was one department to which he must wirer% and he begued the noble duke to believe that he did not intend to say anything in the slightest de gree disrespectful of hits., for be would fraakly sty that of the late uvenidiest there was no one more energetic, and no one -Ito apAied himself more to the duties of hi. Gain than the noble Oahe. (Cheers.) But he must say that he di., not coat: with the noble lord who wee mainly instrument , ' io overthrowing the late ;Neter-meet, Mid who had not done mush to ',apron the present. (A laugh.) He could not agree with bite that it was a commendable ambition in the noble mike to take the ' Bice of &mar, at War, for test office required military knowledge that he might be enabled re keep tho officers under am in order and regularity. He should not have held the two offices of Secretary at War and Secretary for the Colonies, but should have been satisfied to take the dice of Secre• tory fir War, and halo left every other department untouched. Wes it not neeenary that the offices connected with the war should be filled tor persons having military knowledge.) There wee the Ordnance dace. The Master Gruerni of the animates was abeent in the Crimea, end • lieutenant-genersi was appointed to per form pin of his Ala', but who did not possess all the powers of the Master General of Cie Ordnance. The office of Surveyor•Oeueral of the Ordnance was vacua; and the next most important office was that of Clerk el the Ord nance, and that officer was the mnathpiece of the depict most in the noun of Common. The office had hien tilled acme yeses ago by the Commander in-Chief, by General Peel, by Oenerel Fox, and by Colonel Duane, and up to the period of the conuneneement of the war that office had never been held by any but a milit ry man thoroughly conversant wish such matters; but when that office was required to exercise double activity, they put into the ease a loan unacquainted with matters of war, a very reopeets els g paean, ho believed, an Irish member who had recently seen r moss to eha.ige his form of religion, hat a men, se tar as he (Lord Derby) knew, who at the moment he w-. 1 appointed Clerk of the °Maar', if he had been asked to load a pistol, would have been very much puzzled how to set about it—(laughter)—and knew no more than a Kobe unborn about military affeirs—was that the right men in the right place ? (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) The noble duke the Minister at War wit not • military man, and ought therefore to hove had military advisers, and yet for the first time is history the expo nent of the Ordnance and the organ of the minister at the cummeneemoat of a war was • civiliaa, although the office in time of peace had always bees filled by military men. He aid tot wish tone alarms, against the gentleman who had been the duke's Under &enter, at the Colonial office, and who now represented the War Department in the other hones, but he knew nothing in the antecedent. of Mr. F. Peel that rendered him capable of explaining or ad vising on military affair., or of being the immediate repro galantine°, the War Department in one Lonna of parliament. He bad eel. red these non because they Ind been chal lenged to point cut as instants in which the right man had not been pat in the right place. He had not gone to the departments out of parliament, but to these is parliament, sod more immediately connected with the government, and had nova • departure from the principle, and that those appointments had not been made sole;y sad alone with • view to the exigoaties and advanco• meat of the public eleven. They wen told that they taught forward this question is consequence of a public muting, that they took their ere from • public ns , etiag, and that they were adopting the 'engage of Mr. Larerd. The noble earl spoke of • sew coalition between Lord Derby, Lord Elleaborough, and Mr. Lam& He was net reepossible for anything Mr. Lewd thengis, said, or did; his acquaintance with him wreathe iiiightest possible *ha mster, sad he had suer cesisliai us esmossaisated with him en public matters : that gmilemea hail scestitated himself the represeatatne of s hang that was sow very powerful is the mummy; he had less led late intemperance of language. and isle makkg Mnirgos which he was unable to substsatielle—OseeO, low)-641 had dented hints *elf, with the impulsive vabssassee whisk belesged to his eleareeter, to a course of pruned 's( Math he denagbt to be right, bat he had mired 'Midi ft he led ems hien decease( speech, langialle s eel ellfeeelien, MI Me maim imputations whisk bed se bensitlies. end whisk he was enable to Justify. (Hear hem.) With all impost for the abilities e Mr. Lauri, he must say that 'either he nor his sable irked were is say way eissuseii is, or resnoseibis for, any set, word, ordeal of that istan, nor had there bees any commeniesties or msen between his sels.• friend and Mr. Lapsed. Id did set mesa le say that the demeestratios of public bang whisk was sow peineeilleg fun every quarter sod from every Amiss, mid whisk meet have reached ills eus of ImeMajaWsgessemiamit, bed sot leaseasedthe Weil of his sable Mimi awl Massif is brinpringhowsed them esubstiess; be woes* ashemel M say that damsel* lad meat have • very of their sessisp sad views if be thought th i Ta l le s y gg = a i s sek with dismissed usi neglect es ensh as basks el deep• sewed pals &Ilse se bad led mss et hid seseside dor TAILif, emassi in the &shame et primes dude% draeled te she* ewe Waists mem" essossesssil sal am & lam he lel. _le ft is political sr pablis disearoiso—tboy sail set leek wish Wifeless on the deslysissil die addhelies and dimmest which bad led mob mess is @soh sashes le steam ki te time their send ~._ones and plume fob padded damasks. They mid see )ark with messeses es real a kehm penedig the errestm. flu did set thisk is ends kw Mir se he do Nom of Cemasse—he dig sae ibisk ic li a 2 l lii ell Who shied the acseruative pdge ei em Medved's' le &mud in to be MiSiessia he the same shish bed seamed soh • malibeistiss et pales They ite" ihetsese has kiss sweet & l a Bios es t he - essarat et Ile was ; they bid his led le d• ee by as semen desks see le schema the is the segemeltes Math bed sew. s y, sus breeiht es s Mee ; rather thus *Memo sesames is • irides! state et sake. for iiici prate" spored thiamine to the kimielies at leMissms GM Mike bit • esesidoreble stied elepse me Me esIBMINI Mt et x... %sus to work as immeiles OS the perserwat, would have bees sere iesiliosSely ernoeyed by t. lc wee psnially ha eimemsees et OM ham enarcpcseo - et the Mass eilleb fiber saw sr the seastkation of the emairy is Ike will el t essidesee ea the part of the la say gouty, c is all parties is that he sad there who bald the seam • bin were isdasid li believe :that Soy mg set te wermsege by their apses --or what amemMei W diesse—ohe semi ell Nether sad 'minims • 11•11.11/111111 be the filleellfillaillel le; this onatry. When he mid this, be did test sees r ug THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EvitNING, MAY 15, 1855. would not ask bow meek the deasonstratioa of *alb °pillion had lammed the noble lord. He very mtsch doubted the policy of ankle' such changes at the reseal moment s but he supposed the g meat bad , well ova iderect the new analgesia; and the roladletei I the rations departments to sash other. The noble I earl said, look to the effect this resolution will have on the present goverment ; and deprecated the system of overthrowing • government Indio* !change of policy. He wished the noble seri she his friends had sated on that principle at the close Of 1852. There was SO desire en his part. Of that of his friends, togas oMa • soy min must hesitate whoa he eonsidered the position of the country. He should regret if the result of the motion was to be • chugs of adminisiration but* could not admit that the country was in the same poSitio• ele it was when he was compelled by a woes of doe, to decline the task of forming • government At that time ads heats and difficult negotiation moth* going on which latch* be interfered with by a change of government. At that time lola there was such • gametal otabdencia in the noble lead no. at the head of tie government, as being the Daly mail for the situation, that no geminates% could have bees formed without him, but !f he was now removed from aka, his prestige was so diminished, and the warmth of feeling so cooled auen, that the people walla look tag calmly on, and consider that the county might be ad. ministered without him. The able earl said if you do not wish to change the government, consider what' et et these evolutions will have on toting. g eats. The sable earl aimed to aide that the resolution woo* live encouragement to the peace party in Reglad sad be France—that a former speech of his noble inland's woo dictated by pelt& motives, and the desire of iodispookag Francs to our altianee—that he wanted to encourage Rasta, by disparaging oar own resources—and that Austria and Prima were natty to feel the influence of this resolu tion. There was no exereseinn, no hint, in the resolution of his noble friend, which could bear the impression or the view of the noble sal. They bad already recognised with thaskfulares the good sindinstandi.g and alliance which subsisted betas. this couatry and France—an alliance the average of which mould be felt mot only by this country, hut by other countries in future. (Hae, hear.) The noble earl midi • mistake in thinking that they disparaged the rasediroes of England. They drew • distiaction between the reasons of England and the meaner in which they had hem husbanded and applied. (Cheer) Tbey drew • distinction between Ragland ad her government. (Hair, heir.) They were justtlied in disparaging the connect of the Liverwurst ; the more especially, it it excited them to fresh activity and exertions. (Hear, hear.) If, unhappily, there should be • change of government, he believed it would not in the least affect the amicable relations which subsisted between this country end any of the great powers: it was because he held the greater portion of the resolution to be truisms which could not be denied, but which it was essential to place on nand as the solemn resolution of pee. Bement—it wee because it embodied their determinant.' to emanate the war to the utmost ; their adherence to the Pm* alliance ; their satisfaction at the accession or Pisiment thereto; and the realms, of the country whit to all privations, provided the war was con dated ably, energetically, and usefully ; and their dotermi• atlas that it should be so conducted—it was becalms be felt the assertions of 'hat resolution were matter of Mr importance 1 the people as a genuine expend to of their Sentiments, that he cordially gave his sweat to the mottos if his noble friend. Anti whatever might be his success, whether he *braid navy it or rot, he should rejoice that he sad his conservative friends, whilst abeam to maintain the latitutious of the country, showed tney did sot set at asaght public fleecier, but dazed to co-operate with that paha °pluton, to the fullest silent to which they could ge, witaout desiring to go along with the exaggerations to which it zni,gb lead. It was fur these reasons that he *bald conaliy support the resolution of his noble trietd. (Cheere.) The Duke of NRWCAS ME said that unless the noble ail who had just sat down was prepared to upset the pre sent government and to form one of his own instead, he' ought not to savors the present motion ; because, to bring leeward such a motion merely for the papas of dami.giag Yd weakening • government which the noble earl declared to he already weak enough, was not worthy of the pests ot Ragland at a moment like the present. (Hear, hear.) He had already, on a former occasion, explained the grounds on which he assumed the responsibility of the War•ifiloe, and be would not then refer to them. The noble earl said that if a civilian wee appointed to the head of the War s/Am, he ought to have a war tiff under hies. Well, he had for IMMO time objected to the ap pointment of his gallant friend the late Sir G. Cathcart to a command in the Crimea on that very account. (Hear, hear.) He felt the importance of his service in this country, and it was only upon weighing the advantages and disadvantages* both sides that be can. seated to his thing a command in the Crimea. The noble earl said that the Ordainas was left In • meat deficient state is consume°e of the absence of Lord Raglan. He could only say that it was intended that the Lieutenant. General should have the same power as the Master-General in the Ordeals and therefore he was astonished at the statements of Sir H. R7ll. The noble earl refitted to the appointment of Mr. Masa and to his change of religion. Ile trusted that in a discussion of that kind at all events the question of a man's religion would not be brought forward. (Hear, heat) He knew that Lord Reglan left the country hewing a high opinion of the ability end fitness of Mr. Moneell for the office of Clerk of toe Ordnance. The noble sal said that Mr. Monsen w. a the drat civilise who held the office of Clark of the Ordnaoce. The noble earl was quite mistaken. Of the four military persons whom he referred to as bolt ice the dike two of them never held it at all. (•• Hear, hear," and laughter.) In 1807 Mr. W. W. Pole, a civilian, and the alloe, Mr. A Cooper held it in 1811, said Mr. Plower Wood after him. Between 1807 end 1832 his nails friend (Lord Harding') was the Only military man who held the office. (Hear beer.) The noble earl praised tbe labour and assiduity width be had shown. But be begged to say he would not praises for the performance of his duty ; and if his ad= !ration of the war department was bad he did not wish that his labour and assiduity should be placed as a set oft spate' it. The noble earl said that it was bad pulley to undertake the szaditioa to the Crimes. It was very well to ay that now when they were supposed to have failed, though he did not think they had ; but no one said that it was im politic in December lest. (Hear.) Oa the cooreary, the organ of the noble earl threatened the governorint with impeaelment if they did not undertake that expedition. (Hear.) But then the noble earl said that they seat for. • the army without giving them the mesas of carrying oar the siege. Tb. Dale earl was mistaken in ireppesisi that be said in his evidence before the Sslssetoril the etas that they expel ed to have taken that place by a asp& MOM. Whet he said was, that they expected It awn be taken before the army went into winter quarters. Bat so far from its being trae that the army was not provided with propel means, it was provided all along with a siege train. Huts and warm clothing of various descriptions were M olded when it was known that the May would winter in the Crimea. Tice noble sari was again mistaken in sap• posing that the late government wished to shift the - blame on the Amide,' of his noble friend the Commander.in-Chief from their own. Eves is private sonversatica he never let fall any remark whikt could beer that interpretstios. It would be the most un sesames thing is the world to attempt to throw the blame ea the Cemusades‘iarChisf. (Ham) Be believed the emuitry was greethp indebted te him fee the tact, tim e ; sad disereides - Mielt ha limed IS maiming and cionseasai. eating between the two amino. (Hew.) That discretion had dm mono to pressen, sot euly the good haling between the two maim. Ist le seem& that became the two errantrim, this asp ems uses swam af. The noble earl referred to an simmer it Os Jells Bargoyse, that the railway would have boss of great use in the math of (Nicobar. The wads. was a very silly one, sad of seasse it could meths as ether answer. No doubt the railway would have bees et me in October; it would have bees of see if it MA lam made when they landed, but so math a great sissy Misr Map which thecould not have. (Haar, boa.) lie did sot wait till April t o arrange for the making of the railway. Oa the contrary, he sent for Sir I Pato is Nevamber, and it was arranged early in Demstbse that the railway should be made. (Hear.) lii else ema est Ommlasery Gesexel Smith to make ar ise the smiths and treasport of the troops, =CT t : i ta l ia s Mies MS been seat to buy home in all its Of the Best. Be deshal that the sommateat bad not takes wavy moans la their power to learn the strthgth of the swam in the Crimea ; sad with regard to the mos ssismat Sir G. Brown, scompanied by a French officer. esthersi the whole mast between Sebsatopol and Baps issia. It was quite true they had not the same means of Misleising the strength of the Basslaas as they bad of smatheinig Ihs strength of Aiwa* tae Prussia, bet OM el MI segint the meths is their purer, Yd he Mi ems messes to believe that the amosat he vest fo wit:4r eras sot far from the truth as that bead. with Lead Derby than the beam MI the Washy MON at miss say mes t _whethar baloasiss te the Mamas, um; beesicks late MY% Mese lima should resist minim to the ethefeyi bat if Na seem wen not fir=t the emit castle Wm the existing Th=ty of othesedal and wassfaatur ing men seldested to take elk% Deism by se Mug they would be takes away hem the dr awe mans ; but there were malty other compel mt sMs, mit properly members of the Warns, Mem, use awe be called on to take ethos. He higad te am Na M Nth M parliament ; but the evil woe rut eamtitwassied, theleed of looking out for dal* topeennetteleee. were is must Is the habit of relying on date and iseethis In Leaks far meditates ; and so long as they did this, tkey wadiMy get men of midi badly to 11111110111114 them. He bawd the wintry would not be led amp with the idea that we were SS slits nation. He belle/MI that theorems was the eme, as& that our army ems Impreeed. We had had dimeesir bat sins Ins milt- Mry Mee. Lathing at the relative pedalos af the ellies emd the esemybe theright it was set es sethmuralei se the kneer. We hod pat *map to the asset similar* ef ass. glens sod had meth frem the sea every *blip she posemed. We bad ellsoled a leftmost upea her Men which it was =he beer te iimive es of, sad be throe& the re- Me was highly mthhetary se the slike. (Heal The Marquis of CLAMICLUDI sad the Marquis of Los- DONDISKY said they mid sat agree to the resolutions. The Mania - of LANSDOWNI sal& he had risen more than once for the purpose el making seem obsevatioas, but be hod Pady sheen way to the noble marquis who spike' last and to the sable duke (Nevem,.le), for every sue el whom alb he held himself responsible for hie share as a member of the government, sad ha was sled to be se. ' (Hear, hem.) The noble earls (lilleaborougli mad Derby) bad *alma different pounds ►n their support el this notice. The latter noble lad had disclaimed the popular sentiment which was abread—that there was at any time to be fiend unemployod the requisite amount of talent and geniis for carrying oa the goetemment ; while the whole speech of the mover of the isolations was directed to prove that it was possible to fled, even at the very commeneement eta war, the means necessary for ensuring success by a proper choice of men. One of the noble lord's rsselatioes asserted that men are selected ia this wintry for public employment la regard to other eonsiderationa than the public service." What did that mesa ? Wm it not a charge ? (Hear, hear.) If see no scruples with regard to the government ought to deter the noble earl from stating who thaw man were. (Load cheep.) Bat be lied abstained from all mention of men, though throughout the whole of his speech there had reigned an soinsiou to one man, and, whether he ietended it or nor, out it came,enil that man we. Lord Palmerston. ar.) Hs (the Maranis of Lansdowne) did not attach undue import ance to the late change of government ; he considered himself responsible for the acts of both. If the present toversvneut had any superiority, it was one derived from time ; east it was a seperiority which the noble duke (Newcastle) would awn derived had he remained in °dire, fee be bad laid the foundations of much that had sines beat dens, and which had contributed so largely to the present abeieney of the army. (Rear, hear.) He held it a delusion to suppose that an army could I. Acted est atone, so as to assure 10130e111, without previous ezperienee. Oa that account, in every war we had waged from teethe. of the revolution, the war had been Winn maul in the first year, to a greater degree oven than present war. (Hear, bear.) Bash was the cue in the Frith expedition of Wiliam III.; sad all the complaints &taut the state of the Crimean army last autumn bad Men preferred with much gre tar force in the ease of the army which was ant to invade Ireland. The historian attri- bated Ws to the English not bring a people prepared for war, and wbo had been a long time at peace. In the ex peditien undertaken in the last year of William 111., the result was utter ruin sad discomfiture ; and yet that ex pedition bad been planned by Hiog William, end cononcbd by too Duke of Marlborough. (Rear, hear.) Toey were to. incapable. of those days. (Laughter) The noble earl's row:notions went to the fonodetion of all represents- the government whatever. (Hear, hear.) It Was quite true, as the noble earl had stated that, when the Reform Bill wee before them, he said the measure would have the effect of creating impracticable parliaments. The noble earl new told toese that his prediction had been fulfilled: but then he immediately went on to state the want of success which Mr. rites government had experienced in earning on mill. tery ',Gies. (Hear, bear.) So that neither • reformed parliament our an unretormed parliament, according to UN noble earl, was able to conduct • war, and there was thus nothing left for them but • pure despotism. (Cheers.) It was • popular error to suppose that' there existed In this country any great reservoir of 'talent and ezpeeienoe upon which any government origin draw to any extent they chose. There was no mode by which talent might be forced as in a hot bed. (Hear, hear.) All that • pvernment could do was to avail themselves of tetent when it showed itself, to foster it and to turn it to the beet account in their power. (Hear, hear.) He (the noble marquis) objected to the resolutions. because they would give countenance to that popular error; sad uoul tee noble earl could point out cases is which hie noble treacle erased him had actually exercised their patronage, flu • sinister purpose, and to the emission of better men; be mould take the loin, to believe that bee Majesty's go- veroment did avail themselves of the best talent at their disposal. (Hear, beer.) He objected to the evolutions moreover, license they would countersue@ the notion that we had been defeated. That he altogether denied. (Cheers.) In what had we suffered nilvrwise than from the casualties inseparable from war? If instead of every &mien poet in every sea being converted into • prison, the noble earl could point to • Rosman fleet sweeping the Channel ur the Mediterranean, then he might hays been justified in bring• tog such • general accusation against the conduit of the war. (Hear, hear.) No doubt our troops had suffered much ; but it was • melancholy 'titillation to know that the miseries inflicted up a the enemy had been threefold, those inflicted upon the whole of the allied forces. If oar soldiers had suffered from want of clothing, habitations, and, means of transport, the Russians bad suffered ten ileitis more. He should astonish their lordships If he told them we amount of loss which the enemy bad suffered in the course of the last year He bad in his hand • docu ment, which was of the very highest authority, and he found in it a statemeat to the effect that a few days before the death of the Emperor Nicholas • return was made to him, from which it appeared that no fewer than 177,000 coca bad then died. (Sensation.) According to • euoplementary return furnished some days later. 70,000 more had been addel to the list, making • total of 247,000! (Hear.) AillUD, he objected to the motion because it wee, to point of feet, condemnatory of the French government. (Cheers.) He ventured to assert that no step whatever had been taken in this war, and that no expedition bad been planned, which, if not directly suggested by the French, bad not met with the entire and cordial concurrence of oar invaluable allies. (Cheers.) He was sot able to learn from the speech of the noble e irl whether he condemned or spa proved of the appointment of Lord Raglan. (Heal.) He tion• eluded, however, from the noble earl's not blaming it, that it had met with his approbeion. Well, then, the noble earl's general coademeation of the appointment' of the govern ment, except that of the most important of all, was some , what !the the play of Hamlet with the part of Hamlet lett out. Lord Raglan bad indeed shown the utmost ability sad good sense, joined to a conciliatory spirit, which had laid the foundation of that ordiality and sifted= totems the two armies which would do more than anything Mesa meat an *Mine that had already been most beneficial, addl that would, be hoped, prove yet more profitable both le France aad ten this country. (Cheers.) For all these rmoi sees he trusted the house would not be betrayed lies giving arty countenance to the resolution. (Loud *MO The Esti of ELLEN BOROUGH, in reply, only thought it nessisary to notice two pints, one in the speech of tie noble inertias, and the other in that of his noble friend the noble duke. He could not allow the noble mareptis to speak of the proposed address as one that represented this as • defeated country. (Hear, bear.) He (the noble seal) admitted the glories which our troops had ootained—satyr, indeed, had oar troops obtained more. He admitted the victory of the Alma ; be acknowledged the glorious martial is which our mope had driven luck the Russians at bekermenn ; and be had himself described in terms that might be thought to savour of hyperbole the attack of our "rivalry at Baleklava. But what he said was that, in eon sequence of the conduct of her Majesty's government, and the defective strategy adopted, our troops had been • position In which these • victories were g:71 4 m ees, and in which it bad been and was impossible to obtain a decisive entrees. The noble duke had charged him with rot having objected to the expedition to Sebe► temol at the time. That be thought was an unjust charge. The expedition was not known to him till the 6th of As egaesett and at that period almost item One of their lord gips bad left London. He (Lord Elleaborough) bad him self done so; but be blamed himself for eat having returned to town, late as it was, and stated in his place in parliament his objections to the step. He did, however, write to his noble friend, the noble duke, a letter, in which he west, daberately into all the obj.etions be had stated that night. nail that letter the noble deka had eirealated moose; his enneegues. (Hear, hear.) The Duke et NEWCASTiI and Bed aid • few words in explanations bat they were both in ns=in the gallery. • lordships then divided— Contents—Peen present Proxies ntente—Peen present ll5 Proxies and orders of the limps gave boo. members a fair opportu nity for bringing forward such motions. Mr. DISRAELI wished to say a word in reference to thesame subject. The noble lord had remarked that the MOM boa. gentleman the member for Manchester had given Mike of an intention to move an address to her Majesty with regard to the Vienna papers ; but, so far es he (Mr. Disraeli) could judge, it wu im possible for the right. hos. gentleman to introdace hie motion. He must say, too, that he had not luau,. soy previous use in which, wiles negotiations for peace had turainated, and the papers had been laid on the table, the minister himself had not gives nodal, of a motion for an address to the crews with respect to the papers and the ondect of the negotiations. He would not make any ob 'ovations on the mamma which might iadaos her Majesty's miaisters not to take that mune now, but as he appre- beaded that they were not prepared to do so, he would ask the noble lord whether he did not feel Wand, if he him self did not move au address, to wore to any hon. member who wu not connected with the government an opportuoity of fulfilling what he might conceive to be his duty in that reaped. Lord P, said he bad no wish to pat any impediment is the way of any hon. member who might desire to take the sent of the hems en public questions, but there were votes of supply and other matters of a pressing nature which must be disposed of. He thought it would be lin the power of any member v ho had an important question to bring forward to arrange with other members who might otherwise take advantage of their precedence to bring for ward a motion which was not of great or paramount im portance. Of course it was difficult for him to answer off hand questions which were put without notice, bat he c uld aware the tight hon. gentleman (Mr. Disraeli) that there was nothing but a willingnem, au he should rather say a desire, oa the part of her Majesty's government that the same of parliament should be taken, one way or other, on matters of such importance. Mr. DISBAELI—Is it the intention of the noble lord himself t. propose an address? Lord PALMERSTON—No. CITY CORPORATION REFORM. Mr. LABOUCHERE asked whetbir tre bill for reform ing the aorporation of the City of London was to be brought forward within some reasonable time? Sir G. GREY said that the bill had been prepared, and would be printed in the present week. that he concurred is all the seetiments, all the expressions, sad all the views that had been pet forth at the great meeting is the City of London. (Laughter.) lie did not know what he had said to excite the laughter of any noble lord ; be said be did not concur in all that bad been , explored ; be looked on that meeting as an indication of a dun seated public feeling, that by the mismasegemmat of her Majesty's sentiment is matters of ordinary Medi- i new of which, as mta of business, the meeting was stole to judge. Work was isiierfectly done at s lavish expense 11 which might uses been better dons at far less oust. The meeting was an expression of deep-seated dissatisfaction. That diseatisfutios had led men lo 'king only to the effects of the mismanagement into wrong umclusions as to the sasses which had led to it. They heard is some quarters that it was cot the man but the ',stem that wee to blame ; is others, it was the selection of the aristocracy, who ob. tainted all places end all situations, whilst in others all the blame was laid no routine. They were told, that enlists routine was got rid of, there was so safety for the country He would wish to say a taw words as to what he deemed the real state of the gam sad the teal grou..d of dissaisfaction. As to mutiny, if that word was to be applied to the duties of the subordinate departments of the mate, those utile,' which depending on no parliamentary influence, and exercising no parliamentary power, carried on the business of the ministry most usefully and electively, in which the vest mejor.ty ot those employed laboured with en aesiduity but all repaid by the amount of peculiar, advantage they received, without the advantages of publicity and populanty,to eneptrit them, if the chugs wee aside against these deportee. ere, be mast say that routine was a necessity of their existeuee. A manufacturer might as well charge his wheel with routine because it always revived in the same plat.. Routine was the very sauce and soul of these departments, without it the whole busmen of the country would be in confusion in as hour. He was sot prepared to say that in teary cases too much attentlou was mot paid to seniority, that promo lies was not given with too little regard to superiority and eacellawee ; he would not say that in ma .y departments there were not men, who, perfectly capable of working in ordinary times, were, from their advanced age or other circumstances, hardly capable of mettles the extraordinary demands on them. To this emus- no deistic a great deal of the inefficiency of these departments was to be attributed. He thought in times like these the government ought to make a !Plena provision for men no longer competent to dirsesrge their duties from age or tofirmay, sod not allow them to stop the promotion of younger meo. (Hear, heir.) No doubt the departments were ceargeable with this fault— nature wee no fault, it was a Decease.] of existence—bet at the same time, there ought to be over every depart meet a ruling master mind, to watch over its work. ins and insure the mutual co-operation ot its severs' parts and no.. allow them mutually to °berries each otber when they ought mutually to assist. (Rear.) His noble friend said in proposing his resolutioes that it was important foe the peblet Wren:* that the appointments to it should be made with a view to its efficiency above all other considera tions. Be must maw that there appeared to be coma. Astable miseoseeption in the public mind on this question. 11 was sot in the power of soy minister, however well die proud, always to select for every department the men best qualified for the discharge of its duties irrespective 01 every ether department. That principle cou:d hardly ba applied In this country. The choice or the minister of the day for the high Alamo , stare was limited within a very narrow C mesas. The person who °belies the confidence of the crown as a usinist-r is generally one who possesses the cow 1 1 dicer* of parliament also. That minket must be supeorted by a body of colleegues to whet* he assigns the several offices. Those ix !leagues must he inemb-rs ot one or either house of parlisment. Some offices must be held by mea -1 ben of the Mime of Lords, others by members of the House of Commons. The choice therolore was limited to the member. of the two houses of parliament, but it was further limited to those mernbet• whose general political views agreed with those of the minivers,atid who were prepared to join with their colleagues in the con• sideratioa of their policy, while they at the same time dis charged the dada of their own peculiar office. The choice of the minister wee thee limited to litsle more than half the two bows' of perliauseut, and from that number they must farther exclude all those whose private avocations or ea stagusents were such es to render it impassible for them to disabuse the seerrossing duties of a minister of tee crown. (Hear, hear.) He wished to speak with all respect of the present coustitutiou of the House of Commons. There were me doubt on all sides many mite quite capable of die. se=the duties of a minister of the crown, but period of the Reform Bill the complexion el that house bed been so altered as to aaa ee it still stem difficult foes minister to select his colleagues. Pre view to the pasehigof tee Reform Bill there were a number of small beroughs, tee rotten haoughs as they were called, under the control of individuals ; and however inconsistent knight be with the theory of the constitution, those bre rouges were the ordinary avenues to parliament of pot rag men not known to the public who were anxious to make way in parliemest, and devote themselves to the profession of polities, which though not lucrative, had many attractions for men of independent fortune. That &Tsetse was closed by **Reform Bill, and if they looked to the men now returned, =iiy by the large towns, they would find them men slf great ability, bet of too mature age, 'noise in bedews ear professions, who could not devote their time to the public service. and who bad not been trained to the bestows of polities. Men who entered at such an age were rug* distinguished in parliament. It was true some small bens& still remained, and they were told that all the public eases were confined to what was called the aristocracy. Aehesersey was rather an indefinite term, and he must son less he did notkaow precisely what it mewl e some bor we Mesh% a few families bad Cancer *Reich et to return any member of the family, but the electors would not accept an entire drupe at their dicution. The rev It of all this was that the aniabar of men qualified for office was smeller since the passingef the Referee Bill than it bad been before. He merely merle dam sumeeks to currect the exaggerated notions that prevailed es PP emblem It was perfectly certain that if any member of either bow of parlisment displayed abilities aid talent for Dulness, and power ot expression in enforc ing his view,, no matter bow bumble hi. birth or origin— (hear, bur ) —any member, whether tory or radical. would be only too glad to enlist him in the service of the Crown, if he could only be persuaded to undertake the duties. (Hear, hear.) Some three years age, when he undertook to tone a government, he gave office to some gentlemen of great talent and ability, eat of no previous sxi crimes ia official life : the result was, he was charged with doing the very thing the government were sow blamed for so doing—duels, taking untried men. It waste doubt a groat advantage that men should be trained in the subordinate offices, bat the minister is selecting had to consider not only whe had been trained in polities, but who, from their position, were capable of accept ing office. (Hear, bear.) He said so much from a desire to qualify the exaggerated opinion u to the duty of a minister that prevailed. Subject to these restrictions sad diemalties which every minister had to contend with, it wee his duty to select for every department, without fear or favour, the individual whom he considered best qualified for that office. That was the prisciple laid down by his noble friend, but he feared it was one not always borne is mind by the present government, or any of those that had preceded them. (Hest, hear.) They were sited whether they had brought fore ard this motion with a view to a change of goverament. The noble lords oa the lower bencess oneht to be gratified at the rose adopted by the ministerial bench. It was said, no doubt there was gnat neglect, great sufferings, great privations; but recollect, all th is neglect. all this suffering an onfesion, was the work of the late government. (Laughter.) Bet, with one exception, the members of the present government were the same as those of the bet ;it was a sew fi rm with die old partners . (Laugh ter.) The noble earl mid, see whet wonderful things hue bees dom. Hari ORANVILLR Very mach in consequence of elesimme prepared by the 'able duke, the late war The Berl of DlRBY—Settle it amongst yourselves (Laughter.) He mad draw no distinction between' the late and the present orieummest. (Hear.) The premium go verament were reammellie for the movements, was only et the lemt three imathe het of the Mat two years ; it was the ease gpseeselMil. sit seek then had bees a sacrifice of won ewe chess i Nees assehe bad bees throws over, nee seepageete east away—Oseghter)—hat the wow went seweisei the same sod their policy wee she same The aside WI the mi.uier tie Wes ems down she very Oahe Ye astir kind had skip as** ef his raided's*, sal eselskard "Hew waksiessis. I ear soles this wry dos to give settee of a great whine el adakistretive , and I was going to flu it fee the very sight the milk earl has takes." (Ideglitez) It wee enethetasate indeed that the noble lad had gemmed Ide abate walk be haw the result of this Imeties; Uwe wee ethrw bean et putiessed where It might he irkedassi. T om noble lend at the bead el the poestopeat ail he cam to have se wok padeare se idelilakke elllte. maid use wed se keg, bat whims advisers, et es appeetaskg Ahead Ms, he estidgeted his seillegee, owl bombe eat • stetesest of tie pest Whom 11 he odsta le sieved te refer to what seemed la wwither mim e use te be weatrwed to ears pellle—osegitter)—h! wee oaf set the wale in whisk the poet adwielderilee wawa me labored is, it it did he lime the elleeester of a arepalp d'dkl or a amp de dead um of time Pipe 101111111 se stab. ws pdiikel skareeter elsewhere bed lusty amused the gook of this etwalry. Oa Friday evening a gentleman gees up peewee( the warn* ettatheesat and des Wise to - the Neils lord at the bead of the wow sink bet *wain some Me diseppeintateat et the reewle of the Mat three scathe. he a tsar this the po m bet little base ems the Byenemosi Ilet s" Cdp illua re limy before, and thee, that iebeedas the aside NM le ay or do seesthieg te rebel his eioneser with ran onatry, be esasiedyd with $ galena Wittman: _ _ Agate. snit. orbs kr ow ham i (lamtliter.) It their lordship would permit lama ho would r on with the remain — He bard mg was sheibsd—se soldiers &mad Nomplog ups the mob. Without rase t. the some of Comatose is the mottos, bet tombed by the atmae wead, K me& "fleet " —(leughtmr)—the aimpieg Beauty reseed WWI hem her mesii, arra, ter ems times semi ins years, she bed bees dwaskagi emi podding WWI se to whet elmme smirmeatmmeader- moll baryis.wei_oizzateel the Artillery hem the sa )- - We •I TUI Wow enat rue the* bad bass the waking dram ma yam! rust puede of the .able lord, sad while lel sever departed teem him seasideratim. That wee 111* Brest admieietratim reform which the mamma ImAlp perm. " What peat misname We are," sag dap W rupees to waslitamaties of the lissy be rola me sates hi. Wham till the, teems was beim MUM AI THE DEBATE 1N THE LORDS. THE Peers have negativi d Lord ELLENBOROMI'S motion. Seveuty-one votes were recorded for, and one hundred and eighty-one against it. We short.'d be shy of affirming that all the " Contents" aro in their hearts friendly to Administrative Reform ; but we are thoroughly convinced that all the Non contents" are sincerely opposed to it. The anticipatioos raised for some days past re garding Lord ELLENBOROtitaI motion had drawn together a more than ordinal' , concourse of anxious and curious listeners, who thronged every gallery and niche where strangers are permitted to seek standing room in the Upper Parliamentary Chamber. Great things were expected of the noble Earl. The occasion was recognised as one long sought for by a dexterous and dating debater. It was the long-coveted war-horse, whose mane was at length grasped by an Arab rider. Nobody felt quite sure what direction exactly he might take, or whether in the heat and excitement of onslaught be might not perchance commit himself too far. But perhapo• the only prognostic which was not made by scene- . body was that after gaily vaulting into the saddle, and gallantly starting on his course, the war-chief of oppo- sition should in the space of an hour come cantering home without having engaged after all in any very serious fray. As he was pointedly reminded by his an twinge who followed him in debate, he seemed, after chal.enging the whole ministerial array, cautiously to avoid engaging in any conflict of s personal nature. His inculpations of the Government were genaral, and he carefully abstained from specifically censoring any particular appointment, civil or military. This method was undoubtedly consonant with good tactics as regarded votes in a division; and we are not ear* that upon the whole it was an error in judgment as regards the verdict of the country. if after ail that has been said and suffered the case requires to be made out by pettifogging proof, inch as would be admitted in an potion on a bill of exchange, the ques tion is not worth arguing, and the quarrel of the nation with its rulers is a mere delusion and absurdity. We do not blame Lord ELLENBOROUGH, therefore, for not affording his opponents an opportunity cock • as no doubt they counted on, of breaking up the dig mission of the great controversy into a number of • personal altercations about the degree of demerit of each of their proteges, and the comparative ill-odour of their numerous joke. The country has long ago made up its mind on the matter; and Lord ELLEN BOROUGH did, in our opinion, mush more wisely by keeping clear of all the dust and filth of indivi dual recrimination, and boldly appealing for popu lar Lippert by the manly and straighttorward avowal of the great principle of Administrative Reform. " I am not a convert," exclaimed the noble Earl, "to that principle, because I have always maintained it; and because I have always, when I had the power, ,applied it in prao doe." Nothing could be better in its wey than his reference to the origin of the title which he himself bears—similar to that of the dignities enjoyed by other noble lords whose fathers like his own had, a HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MokriaT, MAI 14. he reminded them, sprung from the people, and won The Braman took the chair st 4 o'clock. THE VIENNA CONFERENCES. their coronets by merit, and merit alone. But what Mr. X. OIBSON said he wished to pat a goodies to the must Lord ELL6NBOROUGH have felt at the death motile lord at the head el the grasrament. A shot time like silence, whose depth was rather marked than , Mae the government laid o* the table of the bow 'Math lessened by the inconsiderate cheers of one or two papers relating to the recent seratiadons at Visms. He personal friends, amidst which he was permitted to wished to ask the noble lord whether he would, as as emir utter sentiments so little in unison with the temper day, give the ranee an opportunity Mrapressiog its wisdom and tendencies of the House of Lords? So long as be upon the throe:natio& conveyed fa these papers? see, had gives notice of his intention le move an address Os lingered in generalities, and called upon the mist°. he crown on the subject, and a* dada other hen. meshes c racy to place itself at the head of the people and to kid formed views, after perusiag thole papers, which they approach the Throne with the united demand for maid be glad to state. more efficient siiministration, there were plaudits lb. LAYAED said before the noble lord answered that enough. Nor were such manifestations wanting questiso, perhaps he might be anew& to put me. He when, by a strange perversity or caprice , the nob l e supposed it would be for the oomealsaes of the Mese that the 'abject whit% he himself wished to iatrodaes shoal& be demagogue appealed to his own forgotten prophecies diseased before Whitsuntide, mid primps it was dmilial five-and-twenty years ago against Parliamentary that • day should bs find for his soda. Wadi be Reform. Had he not foretold that the abolition of asevsaisat to the noble lord for him to bring ea saline rotten boroughs would diminish the intellectual re forward on Friday, or on Monday ? Of %sp. he bid do A deputatioa from Lewisham had an isterrviswyesterday wanes of the Lower House ; and was it not note • wish to take any unfair advaatsge. wild Lord PALMERSTON said the goverment had several once, Whitehall, with Weds* la the Iberorlis the President of th e °".l.l Doi of 11.811k1 al his clear that h e was ri g ht, when they actually found measure of great importance in pogrom through the beam ; tae ld° l l: ll 4 l ein t 3 1 1 ' ; miThe.,darafalailljumik. whuebssdes ;JainErrrd hie s othferelamm Laesl vowns",,ualfourgwuat all the old men in the Hone*. there was eapply, sal there were two or three bills of 40 „ bett. prudes urgency ; and he redly Womb' it was very ea- Despatches were remind st the Colonial.ofilee yesterday tof younger men of ability p arose Ths from fau ite lt ha d vi the ng Tho Peas readily cheered this folly while they sat asseenabie that gentleman who amid giro Miss for days from the GOWIIOII/ of the Cape of Good Hope, Canada, the gazing, moody and mute, at Lord ELLEBBOROUOII'a DB width they had }mousse, shield upset the gown. F . 'Mead Islands !, Lra ‘,_ Lord Hig_3Cons_s_,...acesjoner of the creditable and straightforward adoption of the seat loped off public bus for their sermassodation. Him " Was " ha "' he w'rerrwr popular creed of merit, worth, and service an the only eight bia. bind (Mr. M. Gibers) had given modes in the usual coarse of badness ; sad, as for the ho- sposeb bosonrs ois ble s el apee aisi c s h :o m p an ub if li m e t trusts. ly The Earl of Cardigan, lospector-GMeral of Cavalry, asarable member for Aylesbury (Mr. Lapsed) he hes *rived in Lando* from Edinburgh. most remind him, that be aimed him that day. wa s Excellency the Count wakerefd, l a t e ly t h e been too hastily fore - shortened accordance with (Laughter.) The has. member did net mope that offer, reprasentatira of the French Esseiror at this wart, is some suggestion or after-thoaght. Artistically and an air Mt* »Sued not be renewed. (Iteserara rapeseed to arrive is Lauer Ihr ie i s tr a y aL frout Par Boca l;,optimor,atrhdes kedged, it may be said to have consisted of little more 141 ,,_ 14114 ",* ) We ld Ilatn a ff tw 2tt e ,,_ billarlidfrw " le r e f i st i sl i cti a rely on the duties of Foreign than an opening and a peroration, both exce ll ent fit `"'""' gemaillat hd "re ready . " sat eel Rotten whistsight be mese. are about to entertain his Ethellenay at a grind siejdicer ant duration than a menace of attack prolonged to , either directly a indireetly.mesuriag them; bat the forms take plass at Willis" Rooms, iriarstreet, St. hoses's. Majority spinet the emotion llO Their lordships thee adjourned at s quarter to one. i, 1 % CUSTOMS DUTIES BILL The bill was read a third tune cad peewee SPIRIT DU CIES (SCOTLAND AND =LAND) BILL. Upon the order of the day for the coneide:atien of this bill, Tile CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that upon eoustderatiou he had decided upon iskiug measures to permit toe distillation of spitits from malt, making some regulation with regard to the duty. (Hear, hear) He in tended that the proposed change in the law with regard to these matters sttt uld not take t ff-ct until October next. The bill was ordered to be read a third time to-marrow. METROPOLIS LOCAL MANAGEMENT BILL. On the motion that the house go into committee upon this bill, Sir B. HALL said that, having trrubled the house at seas length when he introduced this measure, he should ISM at that moment have intruded himself upon them had 411 ant been for the motion of which the noble lord Ms colleague (Lord Ebringtou) had given notice. Under l emistiog circumstances, however, he felt it his duty ti remind the house that when he intioduced the bill he 'stated that if the measure should be received in the manlier which would enable him to feel morally certain that it would lessen, low, he shoulo then move for leave to hrieg in a hill M amend the act, commonly known as Hobbouse's AM.' the noble lord bad given notice of an intention to mow I that the further consideration of this hill be deferred note the hove had decided upon the principles cf the Messing so announced by him (Sir B Hall) for the further amend- , meet of that act. Now, it was not his intention to inter. I fere with the principles of Hubhousst's Act, and therefore there would ho no mew principles in the bill which he propoied to introduce. (Hear, hear.) Hobbouee's Act was a public, general act, applicable to all England anti Widow, and hence any alterstion which was to be made in it ought not to be mixed up in this metropolitan bill, but to be embodied in a short separate act of parliament. Having premised that he intended to make no alteration in the principle of the act, he would proceed to state to the house the alter.tions which he did intend to propose. By Hob house's Act, the qualification fur vestrymen was fixed at 101 per annum, in all places ..rapt the metropolis, where the qualification was 401. In looking through the returns Presented to parliament, he found that in many parishes in the metropolis the houses worth 401. per annum were very few in number when compared with the aggregate uf : bones in the parish. He therefore proposed that in those parishes where few houses were worth 401. a year to fix the qualification at W. per annum, leaving it however at its present rate in toe larger and wealthier parishes of the metropolis. Again, under Hobbouse's Act, it was enacted shot, puler' where parishes were divided into separate foie @tastiest districts, there should be but one polling place. The coneequesce of this was that in St. Pancras parish, where there were 10.000 electors of members of that house, with four polling places, there were 20,000 eleetdrs of vestry men with one polling place only. (Hear.) This was a pree• deal grieving's which he proposed to remedy. %mother provi sion of Hobbouee's Act required that electors for vestrymen should be resident within the pariah, and thus many gen tlemen with large property within parishes were unable to vote through the circumstance of their residenoes being else where. These were the alterations which to intended t 3 propose in Hobhuuse's Act. With regard to the bill then before the house, be found from the report of the Corn mitt.* of Petitions that there bad only been four petitions presented directly against it, not signed by chairmen on behalf of bodies, and that these petitions contained only 271 aignatures. Eight other petitions had been presented against it, emanating from bodies whose emir enoe would be terminated he the bill. There had only been bye petitions signed by 612 persons, presented, asking for alterations in the bill, and he believed that at only one public meeting had its principles been attacked. Lord EBRINOTON consented, after some conversation, to withdraw his amendment, and the house went into eons mitts', and several clauses of the bill were agreed to, though not without considerable discussion. The house then resumed. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Lord PALMERSTON stated that he proposed to take the Scotch Education Bill on Friday evening, and be bad I arranged with the right hon. gentleman the member for Manchester, to give him Monday for his motion. He wou.d take gentile on Thursday and Friday. Mr. WALPOLE asked whether the motion would be hissillt nu as an original motion ? Lord PALMERSTON—Yes; it will be taken as a sub stantive motion. Mr. HENLEY—Then I suppose the Testamentary hair diction Bill will not cons, on before Whitsuntide ? Lord PALMERSTON was afraid it would not. Mr. MALINS—WiII the noble lord say decidedly no Lord PALMERSTON—NO; it will not come on bo lero that. Ileveual ether bills were advanced a dap ; and the house ellanned at one o'clock. • Vbe Court. Prince Albert, attended by Colonel the Hon. C. B. Phipps and Captain Da Plat, presided yesterday at the Council for the Management of the Decay of Cornwall, at the Duchy OW4, in St. Janiee'requere. Priam Albert loft Buckingham Palms at three o'clock in the afternoon, for Windsor Castle, attended by the Neater of the Household sad his Equerry is Waiting. His Royal Rieman travelled to Windsor by a special train on the South Western Railway, sad remitted to Beekinehant Palate about sin o'clock. The Duchess of Kent visited the Princess of Hoboslobe Lumbar,. The Queen had a dinner party is the mein, the min my included the Dachas of Kent, the Duke of Saxe Cohan, the Prisons of Hohealob• Lehgenbarg, the Prisms Adelaide of Helmick', sad Place Ernest of Laicism, Coast and Countess Wslewski, Lady Anne Maria Daman, Lady Caroline Barrington, the Countess of Lams, the Right Hon. Sir Charles and Lady Mary Wood, Major-Geaeral the;Has. Charles Gee', Le Callieliltr Charles &mower,' and Baron de Treekow. The bend of the let Life Guards attended in the Palate and played during dinner. Lieutenant Lane, Lieutenant Leslie, Ensign Moods at, Resign Knee, sad Militant-Surma Walker, of the Royal Eichorn, Militia, were presented to her MejeinT, at the Levee Friday, by Lieutenant-Colo:eel Manny Prior. Ensign Benbow wee also presented to the Qum*, en amiannent to the 48th Regiment, by Lord Illoakerry. - The Duchess of Kent visited the Duchess of Gloucester yesterday, at Glousester-house. Wife exangloo. Atveiticentents intiMStiSTA 77 77;;;;IN.7 4 7:O7OII Evening may sou A. at tics Mee, 14, Bouveriortreet, by Two o'clock on tb• icy of publication. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. Tau DAT—Morels& I►. Dui MUTING. IL 371 L TO•ItOPJLOW —Manua& lb. 3.las Attunoon. 21k. lfau LONDON. TUESDAY. M.l Y 15. LATEST INTELLIGENCE. THE BLACK SEA. A despatch from S. Petersburg, dated Saturday evening, is to the following rffect " Prince Gortchakoff writes from the Crimes that to the Bth of May, in the evening, nothing important had taken place before Sebastopol. The fire of the Allies was moderate. " The Allied fleet, which wont out on the 3rd inst.. proceeded until off Kertcb, and then returned. A part of the troops embarked appear to have been put ashore in Kamiesch Bay "—Doily News. (BT MTEINATIONAL TELEGRAPH.) (THOM THE CORRESPONDENT OY THE DAILY xrwe ) COPENEIAGEN, MAY 14. The Faedrelandt contains news from Stockholm, confirming the statements about the ultimatum ottiaredl to Sweden by the Allies. Orders have been givers for the immediate mobilisation of the militia; a step that has been taken, it is supposed, in consequence of the above transaction. THE VIENNA CONFERENCES. The Times gives the following telegraiiii;o ane VIENNA, MONDLY MORNINO. " The formal rejection of the last propositions mach by Austria arrived here on Saturday. People speak of counter•propositions, but, if such there be, they con only refer to the future polioy of Austria."