The Express. — London, England, 1850-05-14 00:00:00

IMPEitI Al 4 PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—MONDAY, MAT 13. The hems met at 3 o'clock. Lord L•NODALI Mt Breker. PETITIONS PRESENTED. Torso LAW (Sont.aso).—By the Dalton BUCCLEUCH flea apnea is Scotland peeing for so alteration ia th• law for the relief of the peer. Coax Twins (Scorwro).— By the Earl of EGLINTON Sem Nairn aad by Lord BROUGHAM flout Dalkeill. Imer n i n e t i nn th t ieg, Stirlirg, the Royal Buroliboincerscoa isentiou amotabled, and ether places, ia anon toe Tilde Obernctione Removal Bill EDUCATION. B Lord BROUGHAM, from ChM Chants, Middlesex, is favour of secular eduction._ CortiOLD Tatsvas.-111 the came antit e !esee lord from Bamford, Woreester, Halstead, Staines. i. e , ma Bt. Pwr, and St. Muy, Islington, praying for the s Doe of NNUhold Leanne. SLOTS TaAnn.—Abo tramßelhets Peerieg foe . I° 7 all• CoCostmar for the sappeemion tha Nara Mal _ _ mm Corars.--Abo from Fahaonth in WON , 0( the HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAY, MAT 13 . egtonsies of the prineiplo of s osaty mum. MASTIMS' arstontos (Co rel or CHAIM'S!) BILL.-- The Bruins took the chair at 4 o'clock. Abe from Liverpool, Bristol, York, Maidstone, and other PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. plates is (aver of this bill. Tall LOID LintrIINANcY InaLAND. -- Mr. P. THE UNIVERSITIES. SOMERS. from Sligo, against the proposed abolition of the Lord BROUGHAM presented a Petition from the Loa- Lord Lieutenancy of Ireland. Ica Usiversity Colton, preling for better moommoda GnAzILIAN Siaen Tenn.—By Mrs MILNER GlB fioa sssiatan'-eu r r iest in the navy. The " r ettleneh SON from the Clamber of Comment of Manchester, pray were • mast merits/was edam of oilmen, and he hoped their ing for the repeal of the act ander which this country claim would receive the attention of the men. He saws • jurisdiction over el...hints of the Bruin. wit glad to have that opportunity of renrtug toe Minim' M IIItOPOLITAN INTNININT BILL —By Col. THORP tion which took plate a few nehts sines with the noble mar- 50N ( several), fee , r o o m end now plasm in miod i eese (Luis opposite, and a noble lord (Ilosteagle) not then presents Mr. C. PEARSON, from Lambeth; Mr. MACKINNON, on the 'abject of the proven ommiesice to (squire into the horn sk ore ms c h an d other Smith, I. homer of this bill. Nate of the universities of Of/ford and Cambridge. He bad SLAYNOILOWN Scoen.—By Lord J. cutclissrEft, sues then received many conionnications, by which it ap- hoes a plies, name sot hews, egaisst the admission in save. peered that the observations of the noble lord on that aims it „ tro mem aloe Were oat "met ,name l y,that very P eat Jai l er "' Yoe Pon Orrice —By Mr. ELLIOTT, from Roxburgh ; limit had reeelitl Y taken p late in the course of stud y sad Mr. BRIGHT, from Llanfyllian, Wan; Mr. 'cumin discipline, both at Cambridge sad Oxford. He believed he from Detbysbire ; Mr. EWART, from plane in Scotland ; might say that his noble friend (the Duke of Wellington)i Mr. T. HILDYARD, from a plea in Dortotshire ; Sir W. the Chancellor of Oxford , and his noble and learned bias CLAY, (rota the Tower Umtata ; Mr. C. PEARSON, (Lord Lyndhurst), the High Steward of Cambridge, both (several) from Lambeth; Mr. P. SCROPE, from Stroud ; concurred with him in deprteating any reek and inconsids - ‘Cap. PECHELL, from Brighton ; Sit E. BUXTON, from rate interference with the Uoinnities. He hoped that no West Ham, against Sunday labour is the Post office. Germanic proceedints and no Germanic discipline would be FAcrOalte BILL.—By Mr. ELLIOT (severall. from introduced into out ancient and - /Ulm" flourishing nit ' . plans is Scotland, against List Ashley's Bill. By Mr. entities from foreign institutions of a similar . ebart ieter. HODGSON, from Sunderlaod ; Mr. BRIGHT, from Tod. (Hear, hear.) In hie own judgment he had • loasiog to- stones in favour of an eleven inns bill. By Sir J. vends the existing rystna, improving as it every day was, WALMSLEY, from • public meeting at Bolton ; Mr. F. sad capable, as it unMobtedly was, of further imerovemest. O'CONNOR, from Holten; the Earl of MARCH, from Be hoped that system would not be rashly exchanged for idsseineise aid Baked, is favour e tea hours him. say foreign system whatever. (Hear. Mar.) MALT•TAI.—By Sir J. WALMSLEY. frost the inhabi. Tee Doke of WELLINGTON—The *obis and Isernod tants of the parish of Yothaes, is the county of Norfolk, in lord liana, referred to me on this subjett, I must say that favour of the repeal of this tut. the Usivenity with which lam mantel is anximily NATIONAL Don ***** gTl.—By Mr. MUNTZ, from desirous to introduce every improvement that may he MC- T iatoo ; Mr. M. GIBBON ( 6), film meechister ; Mr. Mable with respect to education. (Hsu, her) Now the r BRIGHT, (4), from Manchester; Crewe (4); Bury, Lan body to which I have the bon en to belong, the Chancellor, cubits (2); Coin.; Todmorden ; Lesson Hall, Cumber. miesters, sad scholars of the University of Oxford, and the land; Sentient ; Aslttan-seder-Lyne ; Ruby, in favour Il eee " ia t kith" of the several "N et * are bound "Vett , of negotiating with foreign powers for the dismemberment mad 'tannin, and carry into execution the statutes of those of wido w ermerseut• several tonnes. I trope, therefore, that the. bodies will o roTAMP DVTlge.—By Mr. LOCKHART, nom the coen let be re q uired te eater e p ee an inquiry directed s P eejall ite Mainers of supply of the county of Lanark, unseimously the object of the repeal of those sta toes which I say the a w wood to ni the sauna swiss o f the county, against any of the land will require them to carry into execution, in n- wens . to the stamp duties. 9E2 to rights of the individuals who claim privileges under Cavaco Riau—By Mr. BRIGHT, from Lvtchett the provicons of then several statutes. Mints, (Dorset) and Merthyr Trivia; Col. K.TYN lE, from AFFAIRS OF GREECE. Bridgewater; against church felts. Lord STANLEY—&m. we last met hare, intelligence has Pcxtauu, yor DRATIL—Ity Mr. BRIGHT, from St. bees retains' of an important character which iodates me Day, Cornwall; Col. K. IYNTE, from Bridgewater; for to tell the attendee of the noble marquis (boodoerse) to the abolition of the punishment of death. the subject of the affairs of Griece. Siam the house met Wixpow TAI.—By Col. K. TYN IE, from Bridgewater, last we have learnt by the ordinary channels of for the repeal of this tax. information, that the good offices teadured by the Ansfraavios ClAreas Tamvios.—lly Mr.BRIGHT, Frenzli government and accepted by this government in from Manchester (4) ; Crews (4); Bury, Lineable. (2) ; respect to the affairs of Greece have not led to Cole., Todmorden, Lesson Hall (Cumberland), Na it. any satisfactory termination. In consequence of the with- wise, Ashton-under Lyne, Rugby ;in favoarot these clauses dreeral of the Emelt minister from the negotiation, coercive i n t rea ties w i t h foreign powers. measures of no ordinary violence have been had recourse to ; THE YEOMANRY FORCE. vern iai ' men unier t • Cl elejle ar i et jbeee re el e ee e hm eret te the Greek I w the t Mr. H. BERKELEY gave notice that, on an rely dry which o e ,t - • dictated h her after Whitattatide, he should move a resolution , that is out prepared - . — to e 7J o r re — er'' l — orseo — ; e r t 'X expedient that the yeomanry force of Great Britain and which liaised should be disarmed and abolished. (A laugh.) meat will MI it to be their duty forthwith to lay be- METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS BILL. C r io n arliament official information with regard to all the Mr. LUSHINGTON gave notice that, in committee on eireanotances of these transactions ; and with respect to the this bill, he should move that, with regard to incumbents sircametaare whisk Inn reedited the friendly Mervin- anti am eere of parishes, oss tios the Limited to pesos . lir of France, to say the least of it, altogether abortive, an d l e d t o t h e be o f coerc i ve mummer. B ut w h ether who had beld office for • certain samba" of years antecedent of tie cot. that information be laid ea the table or an, I wish to take hi th• Fealial the earliest opponnaity of giving astir that at an early ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION.—THE Blstior• rrafter the Whitatatide reera, I shall feel it my duty RIC OF EXETER. ai l l the attention of yeoswrr lordships to the whole of the Sir B. HALL gars snits that, on Friday next, he would eirmastances if this antatan to tranmetios. (Hear.) put tartan gentian to the First Lord of the Tr...try, in The Marquis of LANSDO% NE—I have only to say that reference to the proceedings of the ecclesiastical commission. all the information missected with Ones traesactions will It sworn( by the second report of the ecolcoisatied coin now forthwith be eabmitted to the jedgment or parliameat. nrannn, g. Ils that , on the 6th of Argitoi 184 5 i and the At the ems time , se the noble lord Ms adverted to On rep. 26th of May, 1846, sums amounting to 3,0001. were paid tan, astormsate is one respect, which has taken place in " for altering and improving house at Exam." be would ask the tome of the negotiations, though finally leading to a whether any rem has been advanced for • similar purpose ; Mast satisfactory and successful result, I wish to take the if to, the date when advanced, and the amount; whether I mina opportunity of saying that that rupture having on- say account has bees rendered to the ecclesiastical cos- Mtanatilly taken place in the negotiations, owing to the miasioners of the manner in which those sums have been Freon negotiator having broken off on • simple point, in expended ; and if so, the date of such account; and whether lontequence of the notemeeption of instructions which, if the Bishop of Exeter has raided at the Pales of Blotto they had wind two or three days before, would have pre. sine* the time the meaty was Menaced mated the rapture. a threat of buttilities was the result, I. To ask Lord Join Hamel whether, when the ecileslatrlcomo the e. arc r libiotor bishops. and the Greek gliVenlgent having desired to know the ternee' ire llo a t e r e e re e d the Incens e . e:e Mom on which her Modesty's government Were willing te iiislllll, filleA, Tenn. and al tailed l other 1.411A.M., On the purport if showing the MOWS m*isfactioo, an d to resume elation of (+indiums mow Wow, and whether, caner to oho,' Me set lass.., the sad ram they were directly informed by Mr. Wyse what arnsitbows sod bioh7 pr. Is under di ff erent beads the several these terms were. And the noble lord, and every item. esPenditure • sod. if not, open whet dam the mcirelawleel ether noble lord ia this hone, will her. I am "14"cl:sock ittedttr pum t t h h:t au ehal ma r a tee .b. paid late the epi'espel funduld bet paid the I, with unmixed satis ( acti to, that her Ma. fund tn e ffi l e poorer wo e" ; e 'and whether the corninhanoners will make • =s ele Minister. acting under his instructions, thought return of the da.a upon which ouch • Tension cam hurled the moment was arrived to Enke it manifest to 2. whether the c o clenagical commisoirmero had, or have Min, is- Grimes sad to the world that the object of those hostilities wind fall and particular accounts of the property belonging to the ea to amen • principle. and not to bear harshly on the re- weveral lees, the mode in which su ch property i.lemed, the date af series of Green, and Mr. Wyse acted in • spirit of modem ,the the theletd re" re poetics ceived the ham dos which is hiebly approved by her Majesty's government, — La d so d main case hamZsen by rola:log*4i demands made by this country, when for r t. As 1t appears by the return of Moon made la till that the the firr. time • disposition was evinced by the Gook govern- an Moine tithe Sinop of Leedom smi minced from 14,310. 94.4 d. Meat fairly to meet those demands. He so far relaxed them in 1837 to 12,48 If. Ss. in 1543, notwithstanding the Paddington estate la amount, that the terms required by him and acceded to meals upon daring that Interval; and tb- Molloy of Exeter's set by the government of Greece were in substance not mate- troe_ fro: 2.13,1 0,. td. in 1837 to 3111 lia. 3d . in ;to Liam and to what /Wends they are at. rially different from than which the government of Fresco, thee t t e e r e sortiatiog for this Country had thought to be naitable. 1 4 , When the oeciesisatind commhelosers purpose maw am will only add, that it would have been matter of gems snit- mart of their mompedings—ao report having been made for Innis faction to me if this accommodation had been brought about Years 1 by the assistance and coacurrence of the French genre- CORN AVERAGES. art ; because throughout this tramiction that instilment The Earl of MARCH iaquired whether government wee bra evinced a tam friendly desire to bring about that scene- prepared to being I. any bill for improving the mode of medians. (Hear, hear.) It has only leen in consequence taking the averaltw of the Prim of corn with • Tien to arrive N the accident of wind and wave that • delay et at more correct results. three or four days was interposed, which prevented Mr. LABOUCH ERE replied that the noble lord having the reinitiated** from being brought about by the mason. called his attention to the subjeLt daring the last smite of 'Mentality of that government. I should have been parliament, be had directed • circular to be seat round to the glad 11 it had been so brought shout, but not having been different inspectors in order to ascertain whether it was pos- M, it is satisfactory that it has Mtn brought about on terms 'ibis to obtain more correct returns of the average* than which that government must approve of. inasmuch as the those at present furnished. He admitted that the system on forms agreed upon are marry the tam (although somewhat which the returns were now made up was I rose and intern &fewest la form) as these which that government h a d rat.—(hear, hear)—but it was not equally dear that the I . Maverages returnedeer, hear.) returned were vitiated to any extent in consignee.. nitird d STANLEY said when the papers had bees pre. The result of the inquiries he had made was, seated to their lordships they would better be able to judge that except by a mot expensive machinery tad W the transactions, of which the noble marquis mend so a vexatious interference as against the farmers he feared highly to approve. He could only say It was unfortunate it would be impossible greatly to improve the present sys that is this me there should have been a repetition of aimi- ten. (Hear, hear.) But if the noble lord or hon. gantle ts/ delay to that which occurred at an earlier period of the moo eonnscted with the agricultural interest could suggest a traasections--(hear, hear)—and he could not help °lmre- plea by which, without Incurring any great additional ex tag that the noble =Nuts seemed to have • strange idea of Peso, or interfering vexatiously with the farmer, more the meaner is which the Greek government had carried on accurate returns could be obtained, he should be happy the free nerds. of their discretion, when the fact was that to give it his hest consideration. they had submitted to the term/ dictated rider a threat of MERCANTILE MARINE BILL. bombardment by the most powerful naval state in the la reply to a question front Mr. Dot:isms, es led. ("Hear, hear," and • lamb.) Mr. LABOIXEDIRE stated that he would take the The Marquis et LANSDOWNE—The threat of bombard. second reading of this bill on Thursday, 6th of Jens. Meat le gain se ameaptioca of the noble lord ' s. (Hear.) MEDICAL CHARITIES (IRELAND) BILL. PROCESS AND PRACTICE (IRELAND) BILL. la rigly to • tneetion from Mr. CLIMMITe, of Oa tle motion the Earl of Cantina, this bill patted Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he should postpone ' going por sommit, sad was reted to the hone. faro in RENEWAL ntes OF DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH p r id a r " the Irish Madieal Charities Bill until SPAIN. IRISH FISHERIES BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE wee quite sure their Mr. ANSTEY gave notice that on Thursday next he lordellin• would be glad to km that he sir *bout to Ise on would move for leave to bring Ina new bill to mutate the the table certain papere cosaisted with the resumption of Irish fi s h er i es . diplomatic relations with Spain, PAROCHIAL ASSESSMENT BILL. ROMAN CATHOLIC CLERGY IN IRELAND. In reply to Loos GALWAY, The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH, punnet to notice, Mr. . LEWIS said he would postpone the second rud presentad • petition of use inhabitants of the ecclesiastical lag of the Parochial Ameesment Bill, which stood for that union of Thomastowo, in Ireland. praying for • provision inning, until the end of the month. for the amen catholic clergy. The petitioners stated that HER MAJESTY'S BIRTHDAY. the protestant parish church was only att tend by sixty Mr. FREWEN said the noble lord, tbe First Lord of the peruses, whilst there were then Roman catholic churches which were not able to contain the people. They Treasury, had given notice for ti-morrowto move the adjournment of the house at its rising until Thursday. /Is went on to say that they understood parlia- ur meat bail two millions of moneyany very urgent rearm et t h e i r dire wished to k now whether there was why the adjournment, which would deprive independent Pinni for the PerPee° of extending church accommodation, members of the only day they had for intrados:nig their mos but sot • farthing of it had been gives for the of ROOM catholic place, of worship. The petitioners implored lions, should take place ? their lordship, te swam to „y. meas ure for Lord J. RUSSELL said there had been an order hosed t h e B ow wit h o lw church which might also ammo ( li t with theQtren's birthday was to be celebrated on Weans the state ; sad they also prayed that the raven of the my, an d it would be without precedent if the hoes. Mtn to protestant church is Indeed might he applied to pnrp oase more extended usefulness, and particularly to the onff sit u T P ZI t" D t E da F r iI L UL (. T .R E .st R cN an T d H eb E et" llt il lfili CHIRP church accommodation for the Amen catholic* of Ireland. SECRETARY'S OFFICE. Now be thought that if there was asurplus, itsbould bogiven Mr. B. OSBORNE wished toilet the following gardens to the church of England is thiscountry, inkstands/edits to the right hon. gentleman the Secretary for Irshoid—what united church to be as one—(hear)--end he would advise mese the Irish government had pursued with referents to the petitioners and the Roma catholic. of Ireland generally the clerk in the chief secretary's of to who hed run away ) to asking assistance free' the state to abstain from seek (loud laughter)—whether they had advertised him I—wite mention as that which proposed to take from the fends of ther they had advertised him in the Ilre and Oyf—(gren the Proustian church for the HIPPO? , of the limas catholic.. la.ghter)—..d whether they bad made any inquiry into the (Hear, hear.) Sore be was that t her e misted is this 0011111i/7, Inn Of his accounts? although sot often called forth, • ststrreessggeh of protestaat feel- Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he had answered the quot ing which would at all times be aroused aroused th fec the protection of tin on • previous occasion, that a commission had been Ob. rights of the church—Men, tiro—end the oneem on Issued to Woke Into the maiming clerk's aids, and into the sever wou ld occur whe n the protestant. of this count r y when of his messy treasectlans. He could no' say whether iresid be prepared to great say boon whatever to the he had been udeerlind is the Has old Org. lb.....catholicchurch, the granting of w hi c h mou ld wh et Mr. OSBORNE.-11e hae oot. (Great Incline) se on, or give ak tieete, emu, ( Her, m ac ) Mr °MILBURN asked whether the missing clerk is Lord - REDESSALE regretted that the sebjeet had boss this cue, Mathews, was the same ladivideal who lad given mooted by the gable earl, as it was one which was calculated evidence beton • committee am to the willingness of the to treat. great excitement, without the prospect of my good Proehltied•ne to oentintet nuovisge with • demised wife's malt. lister. (Ceetinned Metter.) MASTERS JURISDICTION IN CHANCERY BILL. AUSTRALIAN COLONIES BILL Ler BROUGHAM stated that tubed prorated pithier , Upon the ceder of the day being read for the third ma ims the esiblesee I. Irides, York, and other importer tutor this bill, =rpm* of this bill, which he would certainly bring Kr. GLADSTONE oared, ran amenilsent, seals on the dry fortnight. That lide home, admen to the nomerouo provioiona of the Ass. ADVANCES TO DISTRZIMIED UNIONS (IRELAND) the teelleu semegen tlminnis et anninialni nme the n" futare nnic regelation n reen" ar i t tie be aillso innwhinnst er Mist BILL. *err^ ell deems le tram se ear as gnat* eat cop The Monne of LANSDOWNE, to moving the second seek Wrataleare and te Pim the political inoitoilver er the oat roadie( of this hill, amid that, although not anticipating eslheesthe tads meet likely te is for.Meneto, Melva he say opposaissi. still it wee only respectful to their lordships ..._hirtherimeMomto thin thelormau hase alliribe g e m sho u r,i stale to them the grenade on which it had rr e =m7 —... mee tmene "side m et tae l tomme sd" r a m eg = h e ws brought !onward. It wee known that, ander m o n o a s teeth the areead varying tam ahem Adds Ism the prerare of aft amiss which lootteeeied been errair to the rtheltiLliter. UM, government Zed bees Seder the risolloity of go said he was reyeelleible that it pas apparently Ea ih• adopting various retteata.. &ate estamity. Pert of free mat, bat another sad to be repaid. mach lobe JD mr became asessiary to outudidate them bite ea. repayment es to prerest sakes. la Wilhite r mitred debts kw the 'Meld be disehareed. bill to adreaee 300,0001. _ is the disclierge of their liabititios, end te com ma. o u tee previous relief ..wares, width was ire or el: la number. It was prctteed oho to pre the geworansat pewee to rowed the date a mod tor replayed to 40 years, whenever they saw cireurestaudes is a partlealer sass calculated to make ouch ea 'Melissa asessaary. These were tall eldest' of the bill. Mier some aoavereatlas, the bill was read a woad time. Their Inhibit* rem at 7 o'clock. ystsrd rem Bat bestsusi smfas in re rode speed ;" - now Weide. 'mold Meehan* enjoyment elt ntions Wen arm the pramanS simmtilm They were without resent assmoiStr dangenatillift might mum hem oruituls. HerWitham bad not boss many 'maths is Milos in n1 1 11%911 they shad he power M give a ossathstios M Now isemad, and in a few mai shoemaker* malltslign sus et* wq mum the sem. What solvamisatly took plass samba ample ilhistra , ties that if them had bus may ono is that Muss Is Mims the demand made for immediate logbkdas, that pmem would have bun acknowledged to be the " pod 'miss' of the soimial department. For, what bappsasil The senolftutios arrived in New Z colas& and the sae me brought hack a demand from the warm . that the stave law should be suspended, and so urgent was that demand that her Majesty's 'crummiest oiled upon Um limps at mos to do entirely that which had bus does before. (Hoar.) It was impossible to masts the Important., of passing laws foe the Australian coloaiss. Proem legislation would in all probability .:emus. a vast ialsesso for good or sell es those colonies. It we., thorohre, the duty of the hoes. to so. that the provisions of this measure were well aossidortd, to take ears that the eaustitation they setabilehed was in conformity with the MINN'S mil wishes of the aolesiols, sad that it was a oonstilstim is all mope* the UM whisk the fooling. of Me poopis of the colonies wadi i.duo them to maim. Hs did sot dusty thatia Van Diamsa's Land then Imam 'axiom feeling hr representative institution% sad that in that missy the mama giselpesement of a ansommo that WOO pant thous isstitations amid lead of to dimppoinimast. Bat at the error time he thought that therm* if Vas Dismiss Land would demo to have sack repsemmeative imeitatisme as had received the deliberative olanidualism of porihmult, and not such institutions as would merely glNllisma sant nal freedom. But hon. members must net coulee their views to Van Diemen's Land. They mast be governed by the consideration—Dot what was beat der Van Diemen's Land, bat what was beet fer the vast mass od our fellow. subjects in that part of the world. (Hear.) He admitted that the people of South Australia had enraged their thanks to the goverssaantfor having introduced the bill ; and he thanked the government gee their desire to give represen tative insti'atioas to the adenisa. But let the house recollect that thou who had their eatislhation at the prospect ..(getting re imitations were persons not in the enjoyment o Mom kamitesisse at pleSeSt, and therefore it was natural they ghouls" regard with same satisfaction any measure which aimed at their personal enfranchisement. Bat did they approve of this mauve as it stood ? They did not. The dormer of South AWISIaI objected to the reservation of the veto in Ms colonial domrtment ; be also objected to the coutitudon of the general assembly, and to the oomatitutien of a legislature °manillas; of a single chamber.• The inhabitants of the town of Adelaide Maligned to the constitution of the usual assembly, and to any control being retained by the mother country over the salaries they were to pay their public odium and over the Inoue changes inthe electoral franchise. From Van DISIBOU'II Land no approval of the bill had been received; on the contrary, the governor had objected to legislation is regard to the general assembly, and also to the single legial• sties assembly. In New South Wales, both the governor and the legislature objected to the single chamber. In every part, then, where the opinions of the people had been declared, they were at variance with the general provisions of this bill. Nay, more, New South Wales bad forwarded numerous petitions to parliament, none of the prayers of which had been conceded by this set. They had asked for forms of government simi lar to those of the mother country, and they had prayed that their franchise naght be dealt with by direct legislation, but their prayers had not been complied with. (Hear, hear.) The objections he entertained to the passing of the present bill were founded on these four points—be objeded to the provisi• ns this bill contained, which required constant interfererce by the authorities at home in the local affairs of the colony. He objected to the proviteons which enacted that there might be on the requisition of two of the firs colonies a gen- rat assembly appointed to exercise certain legislative functions, and to override the action of the separate provinces. lie objected to the bequeathing of a constitution to Australia which entrusted the gnat bulk of legislation to a single chamber, sad especially a single chamber compose.' as this was intended to be. And, lastly, he objected to the government refusing to deal with the electoral franchise in New South Wales. (Hear, hear.) The bill provided that no law should pass in the colony, whatever were its nature or cha racter, without bring subject to review, and, of course, dia. allowance at home. With respect to the veto in matters ed colonial legislation, he might almost say that he had, until lately, bees deluded. He had, until recently, been of *aim that that veto was of use. He now thought that it entailed on the home government the whole of the responsi 'Adige with regard to the police and the extravagant expen diture of the colonies, and that we should never be able to diminish that expenditure until we acted up= more rational principles with reference to the real freedom of the colonies. The veto had not the advantage of giving uniformity to the system of law throughout the colonies; on the ee.trary, it made the law for a considerable period anurtain. Besides, interference with colonial legislation was is many ewes productive of the most vexatious results. He objected also to the clause which provided for the foundation of a General Assembly, believing it to be op posed to the wish generally of the colonists themselves. It was a bold declaration to make, but he did nut believe that the government had received from any one single body . of persons, or through sny one single organ of public opium an approval of the summit of a general assembly. lie be lieved, on the contrary, that the opinion of the authorities in our Australian colonies, as well as of the people themselves, was altogether opposed to it. It was proposed to form a union of five colonies only two of whieb touched at all, and these only slightly, vix., one end of Port Phillip with one end of New South Wales. New South Wales was separated by a long inter val from South Australia ; while all were separated from Western Australia by a desert, and from Van Diemen's land by sea. There was, therefore, no such union physically or geographically, nor no such community of interests and feelings as would make it desirable that they should ' • have a general usetahly. if those colonies chose to give it to themselves, by all moans let them have it—(. hear " from Mr. Hawes)—but he maintained that they did not wish it. Another reason why be could not assent to the Australian Colonies Government Bill as it stood, was the vicious constitution of the legisla tive body which it conferred upon these colonise. He thought that all that had passed respecting a single aad double chamber must show that not only was reason but the general feeling of the house in favour of the double chamber. The next point adverted to by the right hon. gentleman ' we. that of the waste lands, in reference to which he reite rated the opinions he expressed a few evenings since. He said he was convinced that the Australians would not be content with any such system as that proposed for the management of the waste lands, and that we should not hear the end of it until some fundamental alt ration took place. Why not give to the colonies the management of those lands ? He could not, and did not suppose it was a mere love of power that induced the government to retain the management of them. Then why not give the management to than legislative councils ? Benue, forsooth, it was supposed they might abase the power, sad that corruption might chance to be found in the pleas of a pure disposition of those lands. His answer to that we., that the way to avoid suck a °postgame was by having two legislative chambers instead of one. Upon thorns grounds (whit the right hon. gentleman recapitulated) he felt it to be his daty to ask the house to take advantage of some further communication with the people of those colonies beton giving their heel sanction to this measure. He protested against parliament taking upon itself any responsibility whatever in the management of the local affairs of thee- colonies, and the course he now recom mended he believed to be saoet consonant with the dictates of prudence, and the pease and honour of the crown, and most likely to place the connection of those colonies on that basis which every good citizen and patriot would wish to see them. Mr. ROEBUCK, in seconding the motion, said he assumed the hon. gentleman who brought it forward was of opinion that they were now called upon to take ths most important step in the legislation of this country, with respect to a large group of our colonies, and that that which they were about that night to do wee to divest themselves, if he might so say, of a great portion of their power, and that what they were about to do was final with regard to the colonies. Now the circumstance* under which they were called upon to legislate for three 'plonks wime moat remarkable. Englishmen having sass the disastrous consequences of colonisation in America, and, undespoading an spits of that experience, turned their feotateps to the east and to the south, and there they had now laid the foundation of groat communities. We have had the experience of our dealings with the Americana —the experience not only of our own colonial, but of the ' e lonise of other nations—we knew the errors that had been committed is conarsion with our colonies, and under thefts pecaliar circumstances the noble lord at the head of the co lonies and his right hoe. friend opposite had been called upon to legislate. Now he said they had taken no leaf from the past, they had learned no lesson which history ought to have taught them. What should the history of our colonies have taught them ? That between the mother country and the colonies there must always arias disputes as respected the power of the colony, and the power of the mother country. In this bill had they provided for any one of those disputa*? Not at all. The noble lord the Secretary of State for the Culonim had been chosen to that °Moo because he was supposed to be At for it. What had he done ? When New Zealand, and South Amiss, and Australia called on him to legislate for them he nomiaated a committee of privy council ; he those three gentlemen, who were no doubt moat worthy per sons, he believed they were the present Lord Chief Justice and two others, to advise the crown as regarded South Africa and Aust ralia.i And es the right hon. gentleman said, with regard to New Zealand, what had he done ? lie believed the noble lord's impolseand his wish wash, be right, bat he had shown& want of a in dealing with the principles which he prefness& Witt to New Zealand, was there ever a body of MPS more worth, of the power of 'ormolus themselves Mon Ito migrants then ? They were man far above the real eidgeosiss of went, men able as the members of that house to govern themselves. They planted a colony in that country. and they told the colonial minister what every colony of Bagthltnien had told the colonial minister, that they dmind to govern themselves. Lord Grey was the Bret calm'sl minister who had said that that desire ought in be ratified, and had brought in a bill for the purpose of carrying out the room• aeadatiee of them coloidate. He did not agree with the right boa. gentleman (Mr. Gladstone) in what he said on that enbyeet There we. a giving way—* yielding to astute tee the mkt_llkeeko Cl the Mow I Thlt':as task to propose to the house to retard I Of lOW sew thee meeettetel "el Ilteetke r . I ?.west paw t mare which had toy !or sad seselderabie peeilea wee Inky, go, at ' of owes% 0 awn owl hose ludas loom was sa d apes airealet oar f *sources. Us t nbeisdraswewwsallit. josh w sow that alhantioe. Bat WelltitlY the tat#lM uhf Itesidirea, It um they —'' dad ea plidasties of the mu one, end Ps to sr ranile the 'Mk* et lard: s f ele that " the wen hate the wore remit is leessilsangesseive ewes kr hi' kiltgellett th, ware as to thte. Waal a ie..' wakes Mils Was sad lussatare, and that WI weld t relief of the poor w.Sials it was desirable their duty, ewe tine, est aseelerate .00 m ei I. It we mend this la the areesst oolosial Modest by Lawrie:On all tale preeut OPO!. t 4 Ao _shammed asionnto be used they dimming* hen tiro hews therm THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY RVEN4NG MAY 14, 1850. the geplorei el s Allt e t lam who had Nitta on their side. He Mx limbos/4 Ted that the permissive power is the WE yes Ikra N 4410 power. As liked tha We o f f maths, any largo wthitsa II asi b trge peas. et the i homo yams% Oil 11144 f 004 goverment ; asps- Milt whoa 14 111 %b• mate said nation sad, if there Imes • hit this people ander the pastel smothatalma* desirable to teke advan- X: lie OEM elf em fig. Bat whoa he so meld, he be posmithed to draw the Use, and to thew thresh the terries of this lewd seesatbly eon *cid get with regard to the separate assemblies oat of whisk it was to be sad ant with regard to W great eistsopelboa , width ft formed a part. Why, Ibis hill Melt no of this ; there wee so swaths of a genera stem me pre/isles or preparation for it is the bill. And be WHIM 01414 right to mark and sigma liw boraces the sods lord mail sot have been aware :ftZ d fireat evidence whisk Wan had gives as. He the Webby with their Mespealty sad impotency be ams ta gusatlnterests like this they bad brought la as hairnet steamlb la the sontheen hanitpkowe our daisesdealn ware Meath Sew a greet empire arise, which, se be believed, weal rival the great maybe he the west ; bat when poseerity sheath sem that great people to existence, !e h / would say it wesowhig to the isdividuel perseverance it = standing alone, wielded, seas sisterral;, Unwind lgthe nom :meat of the country to which they balespg. vas beaus he believed that this Wog whisk Wray easel a bill—sad which was some time or other to be ems em—beaus it would not advance, but threw he*, ehlthalisa Is our coloales, that he seconded the 114111simat Milts elglit Item gentleman. --• • • Mr. HAW= toil that all that the right honourable gentlemen lid to eie was to proceed no farther with the MIL bet le Yee tall OM hill and all the proposals respect lag it, the eingeffieeseile adopted and rejected, to the gover nor, tie lerglifinfle, wed the people of four colonies; and he ... rts: to ... leglskitive bodies, and the people of , three to return that hones an answer by which it meld legislate satisfactorily to the colonies. He thought it would have been better at once to have moved that the bill be reed a third time that day six mouths. Bat the right howstuable gentleman, as he had said, had dilated upon every imaginable principle in colonial government. He (Mr. Hawes) told the house that if they followed the right boo. gentleman on this ocossion, they desisted the question whether they were to have Goiania or not. Per, if he understood the nght hon. gentleman, he waived the veto of the crown, he maintained that the veto of theorem and the appointment of governor might involve the ermatsw I. great disputes and expense. Why, in what way wee he to read that proposition ? Was he not to infer that the eight hon. gentleman had not only changed his spiel= het sway abandoned the opinions that he formerly held ? When the bill was introduced into the house the right honesereble gentleman said he was in favour of the peiselples of the bill. And what were the priacipies of the bill 1 The bill did not propose to surmise the powers of the crown ; it did not propose to sows% lieskei Ma the colonies, but if they followed the el.lllwelh Sentleewe's argument to its • conclusion it cams to this, that ew account of the expense he was prepared to atimisa oar wallonial empire, and to relieve parliament from walltere connected with colonial legislation. [Mr. Ofslawnet Local legislation.] But how was the right hon. guallkemea to deal with the question of local leiMadon ? Wkly the right honourable baro net, the member lbw Southwark, proposed that the c demists should have the power of interior legislation ; bat when he came to Mine what was interior and what was imperial legislation, be proposed that in case of dispute they should go before the semesittes of privy council. Look to the scheme of the right hon. gentleman. Every bill that interfered with the alive in any degree, would of mune be objected to she law officers of the government. This bill adopted an constitution, one that had been tried, and ewe which he repeated again, had met with the meat and consent of the iahabitants of New South Wales. But the bill went farther than that; it gave the colonists the power to amend the constitution. Now, be eon• tended that that power was more likely to prevent col lision between the mother country and the colonies than any thing else. That power was for the first time conceded to the colonies by this bill. He understood the right honourable gentleman to say there was no approval, that they had no information. Why the papers before the house, he imagined, must have escaped the right honourable gentleman's attention. What did the great public meeting of South Australia say They said this, " that the bill laid before parliament, entitled a bill for the better government of her Majesty's Australian colonies, so far sa it relates to the colony of South Australi , , meets the wishes and the wants of the colony in most of its eaten tial provisions, and a bill constituting a representative go vernment with such extensive powers deserves to be regarded as a large, liberal, and comprehen sire measure." The right hon. gentleman proposed to disappoint these people, and on what grounds To have a report from four colonies and four governors ? Why it could only arrive here in the course of the next ses sion of parliament, and th..n there would be such a mass to digest, that no legislation could take place till the session after that. Well, but the, (the government) said, if the colonists do not like this bill, let them alter it, they have the power. If the object were to the colonies a double chamber, and the colonists concurred with them, let them resort to the provisions of the bill, sod convert the eingle chamber into a double chamber. There was nothing to prevent that being done. Therefore, he contended that to delay this bill was to delay an useful, and in the language of the public meeting in S nth Australia, the resolutions of which he had quoted, "a liberal and comprehensive measure." The right hon. gentleman spoke in favour or a double chamber. Let the house remember that this question had been dimuseed more than once, and had been decided by the house by large majorities. He (Mr. Hawes) confidently appealed to those who bad hitherto supported the bill still to de so, and not to delay all legislation on this subject indefinitely, or at least for one or two years to come. It was alleged that the only ground why the government refused complete con trol to the oolonirs over their waste lands was through fear of personal corruption and jobbing. That was certainly not the case. (Hear, hear.) The ground was a far higher one, aad one which he hoped the house would appreciate. The waste lands of the colonies were in fact the estate of the crown, held for the benefit of the people of England, as well as those of the co lonies ; and the sole question was how they might be best miscued to that end. (Hear, hear.) The management of the local legislatures might be as honest and intelligent as the management here ; but still they must be subject to a local pressure, which would be extremely inconvenient, not because it would lead to personal corruption or favouritism, bat every one knew that popularly constituted bodies were expired to influence* altogether apart from jobbing or cor ruption, but which would tend, in the long run, to transfer those lands to a large number of owners at a very low prim. (Hear, hear.) When the right hon. gentleman talked of two chambers being a security for the better ma nagement of the lands, be had surely forgot the case of Ca nada. Were there no abuse* there in the management of the land? (Hear.) As to the franchise, the colonies themselves would have the power to regulate that • it might be left with confidence to the existing councils, w ho would doubtless regard the wishes and feelings of the people. It was said the government had din. girded the frequently expressed wish of the colonists that the fran chise should be extended to leaseholder.. The 10th section of the bill contained a provision on that subjoin ; but the whole question would be far better left to the colo nists themselves. New Zealand had been frequently adverted to, as a proof of what were called the blunders of the colonial office. He wished the house fully to understand the position of the question with regard to that colony. Some time ago a bill giving a constitution to New Zealand had passed that hoes, almost unanimously, and with the bona Jiide intention of carrying the measure out, but upon the representation of the governor himself, that while the European popu lation was so small, and the revenues of the colony were paid so largely by a native population, who ware well armed, laws made entirely by the European population would not be peaceably submitted te by the natives, the statute had been suspended. But the accounts recently re ceived from the colony, which would form the subject of future papers te be laid before the house, were so satinet:lton both as to the progress of the colony and its tranquillity, that the governor had intimated to Lord Grey that he was no longer of opinion that the introduction of representative institutions ought to be further delayed ; and It was proba ble that in the course of next region a legislative measure for this purpose would be introduced. (Hear, hear.) Under these circumstances he hoped the hon. member for Cukor mouth (Mr. Aglionby) would see the propriety of not press ing the amendment of which he had given notice, as the subjoin required great one, and ought not te be de alt with until full information was received. He had heard no good ground why the house should reveres its former decision ; he, therefore, hoped the bill would be passed. Mr. E DENISON related many incidents of recent colo nial administration, especially relating to the waste lands, to show that the Colonial office mismanaged affairs, and did not deserve to retain the large authority which would be left to it by the present measure. The bill was wrong in much th it provided, end wrong in much that it omitted ; wrong in the form of constitution it granted, wrong in the federal as Nimbly it provided, and wrong in withholding from th e colo nists the management of their own affairs. It was especially wrong as regarded the case of the waste lands of the colonies. On this latter point he had an amenduseht on the paper, but he should at this moment promise only his support to Mr. Gladstone'. amendment. Mr. C. ANSTEY objected to the exam of the sum to be levied for the administration of justice in Van Diemen*. Land beyond that exacted in the other colonies tor the like hirpose*. In other respects sport ved of the bill, and be ved that it was satis to the inhabitants. He moved to surfing" in Schedule C, or the sum of 13,3001. (" salvtee of Attorney and Solicitor-General, crown solicitors, and con tingent and miscellaneous expenses of administration of jus tice' is Van Diemen's Land) the sum of 6,0001. Mr. AGLIONBY, being satisfied of the excellence of the principles in which the bill was founded, and being also convinced of the necessity of legislation, should oppose Mr. Gladatone's amendment. Mr. F. SCOTT said that recent advice* had shown the real dissatisfaction of the colonists with this bill, sad that the sterling organs of their opinion had unmistakeably pro neared against it in its present form. He neat through the leading features of the hill, commenting adversely upon them as he proceeded, and contended that it was the duty of the house at all events to delay the further progress of the meow until it could be presented in • mon perfect shape. Mr. SIMEON, in answer to a remark of Mr. Hawes, said that the proposition of Mr. Gladstone might be an unusual one, but it was rendered nursery by the snug* contin gency now occupying the attention of the house. He re gretted that opposition to the measure might embarrass the government, in whose good intentions he had oonfidenos; bat, hallooing that the influence of the Coloniallthco was aeletarims to the MIMI% WI must support the amendment be the sake of demyteg the bill. Mr. RUMS Mt a musk saxiety to remove the baneful hasesec of the Ooloaial-odke, that he would not Gossett to postpone for soother melon the gift of a constitution to Australia. It might sot he altogether good, but was the Wet that amid be hoped hr sada the Respites of the de partment, and mataieed as 'lama of self-rectification in the power Oren to the colonists to modify their constitution hereafter. Mr IDDIIRLBY remarked that every member who had ventured to approve of the bill as a whole, had invariably objected to almost ell its parts. The bill would probably be passed. though not upon its merits, but between the apathy and the antipathies of the various parties in that house. If the iceman had draws oat a copy of the British oonstitu tics, the government would have been entitled to originate It, and the oolonists were reedy to adopt it. But as the whew, wee a newfangled invention in constitution-making, the inhabitants of the colony had a right to be consulted be fore they were called epos to submit. Mr. DIVETT spoke from his own knowledge to the fact that the bill was much liked in South Australia, and was convinced that all the colonies were impatient for a consti tution, and preferred not to wait for another year, but would take the measure now preferred as the beet practical scheme they could get. Mr. STANFORD opposed the amendment because he wished the home government to retain a control ever the sale of the unoccupied lands is Australia. Mr. WOREGOR accepted the bill with all its faults as being better than delay. In determining the range of qua dons which were to be left for determination by the local legislatures, he wished to except the imposition of import duties, since it was fit that the imperial legislatioa should alone have authority to par laws which might seriously affect the commerce of the whole empire. The hones then divided— For the motion 226 For the amendment . Mr. ROEBUCK, amid much confusion, moved • clause to extend the provisions of the bill so as to enable the seve ral legislatures of the colonies in British North America to establish a general federative assembly for those colonies. Lord J. lit.:BBl3LL, without going into the question of the propriety of • federal union for the North American co lonies, thought it much better to confine this bill to the Australian colonies, with which only it wu intended to deal —he must, therefore, oppose the bringing up of the clause. The clamor wee then put and negatived. Mr. AOLIONBY then proposed a clause providing for representative institutions and the means of self-government within the island of New Zealand. Lord J. RUSSELL said the government had received very recent despatches from the governor of New Zealand, from which it appeared that at present the state of the colony was satisfactory. At the same time there were, as the hon. member for Cockermouth had supposed, certain points on which the government would wish to amend the New Zea land Act. There would not be tune to do this in the present session, bet an amendment of the New Zealand Act might probably be consider.-d next year. The amendment was, by leave, withdrawn. Mr. V. EMIT II objected to certain words which bad been inserted in clause 10. Mr. HAWES supported the insertion of the words in question. Mr. E. DENISON moved, as an amendment, that the legislature of each colony should have the management of the waste lands within the limits of the colony. He moved, in clause 13, line 35, alter the word " respectively," to insert the following words And for selling, demising, granting licences for occupation of, or otherwise disposing of waste Linde of the crown within the limits of of the colon, and for the appropriation of the money to arise from such disposition of such lands, anything In an act of the Math year of her Majesty, intituted, "An Act for regulating the sale of waste lands belonging to the crown in the Australian colonies," or in an act of the tenth rear of the reign of her Majesty, to amend such act, and to make further proPiPion for the management of such land, to the contrary notwithstanding : Provided always, that one equal half part of such gross proceeds shall be, and the same is hereby appro priated towards the expense of remucal from the United Kingdom to the colony wherein such revenue accrued of emigrants from the 'United Kingdom. Mr. HAWES founded upon the cisme Importance of the subject, and the.divereities of opinion thereon in the different colonies, an argument in favour of retai..ing the control over the land sales, at all events the present, in the hands of the imperial government. Mr. HUME hoped to find that the land Bales in the colonies would pay the expenses of their government, and therefore wished not to part with control over them. After a few words from Mr. F. SCOTT, and Mr. 1:11:1T, Mr. ADDERLEY made a few remarks (amidst much impatience on the part of the house) respecting the price of land, upon which, The house divined, when there appeared For the amendment Against it - ----- 222-140 Mr. LABOLT HERM smd, in answer to a question, that by the arrangement of the bill it was provided that if the colonists should agree upon a federal form of government there would be 31 representatives, of whom 12 would be allotted to Sydney and the remainder divided among the smaller colonies. By that arrangement all danger of the late r being swamped by the preponderance of Sydney would be avoided. ANSTEY moved (in Schedule C, part 1) instead of 13,500 i . to insert 5,0001, kr. HUME seconded the motion. Mr. HAWES opposed the amendment, on the prouad that the expenditure provided for by the satedule had been fixed at the lowest pomible amount. The amendment was withdrawn, and the bill passed. THE STAMP DIIrIES. The house ha-ying resolved. itself iult;coramittee on the stamp duties,— The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed resolutions on which to found a bill. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY asked what was the nature of the resolutions. The house must bear in mind that they were on the eve of pealing • measure, which under the pre text of being a boon, would in point of fact have increased taxation. Ile hoped they would not again fall into the same error. The CHANCELLOR the EXCHEQUER said it Will quite true, as his hon. friend said, that in the measure re neatly submitted to the house, some persons were taxed more highly than they had been. lie never said that they would not. On the contrary, he stated that in proposing to relieve the smaller proprietors, the larger proprietors would be more highly taxed ; but that, upon the whole, 300,0001. i would be remitted. What he now proposed was what he stated or Friday night, namely, he proposed to take an uni form duty of one per cent. on conveyances, and of one eighth per cent. upon mortgages. The only alteration that he had made was, that instead of leaving the schedule for Ireland out of the bill, he should leave it in, in order that be might exercise his judgment upon it. Mr. DISRAELI observed that it was usual for the resolu. tion to be printed, sad as he understood some alteration had been made, that was an additional reason why it should be 'slated in the hands of lion. members before they were called upon to agree to it. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the only objection he had was that it was so much time lost. The house might reduce anything; they probably would not increase it beyond what he proposed. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said there was no doubt that as the bill was originally drawn, instead of effecting a reduc tion of 300,0001., it would have increased the taxation ; and if they had passed the bill as it originally stood, they would have been grossly deceived. He wished a calculatioa could he shown wherein the loss of 300,0001 by the new scheme could be shown. He wished to have same data to go upon ; he wished to know where the gain would be, and where the low would be, and to what amount. For his own part, it was a matter of great doubt what the loss would be ; and he was inclined to think there was some great error. He thought it fair to the house that some documents chewing the lots and the gain should be laid before them. The Chan cellor of the Exchequer could easily procure such a docu ment from the Stamp-office. Mr. W. BROWN remarked that until they had some data to go upon they were quite in the dark. Mr. HUME said they could not go on till they had got the whole schedule. The object of the pliseent motion was to have the bill printed, and the schedule would be printed. In answer to Mr. GROGAN, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he did not propose to make any alteration with regard to receipt stamps. With regard to the question of the hon. member for Evesham, it was impossible to form a really accurate estimste. The low upon mortgages would be about 100,0001., and the rest upon conveyances. Mr. 11 ULLINGS said it was very desirable that the house should know what they were called upon to do. He wished to know from the right hon. gentleman if the same subject matter was in this as in the former bill : first, agreements ; second, bargains and sales far a year; third, bonds; fourth, covenants; then leases, then mortgages, then settlements, then warrants of attorney. He thought he had enumerated almost the whole ; he wished to know It these were in the new bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that in the schedule he had put into the hands of the hon. gen tleman, agreements were included which were not included in the former bill. With regard to bargains and sales, they were not in the schedule, being repealed by a clause in the bill. All the other items enumerated by the hon. gentleman were in the schedule. Mr. OROGAN inquired whether it would be competent to move reductions on any other matters besides those which were mentioned in the resolution, because he had received a strong representation es to the justice of reducing one particular stamp. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—On what particular stamp. Mr. OROGAN—On awards in arbitration. Mr. OOULBURN said it struck him the moat conve nient mode would he to adopt the resolutions; they would then appear in the votes to-morrow, and if any boa. gentle man saw any objection to them whoa the report was brought up, he could move that it be recommitted. The resolutions were then agreed to, and ordered to be re ported. The house then resumed. SUNDAY FAIRS. _ _ _ The Sunday Fairs Prevention lidl wu read • second time. ELECTION (IRELAND) BILL. This bill was postponed to thin day. THE RAILWAYS ABANDONMENT BILL. This bill was re-committed and the lords' amendments agreed to. FACTORIES BILL. Oa the motion that this bill be committed pro /origin, for the purpose of tieing re-committed, Lord ASHLEY said that he might inform the house that he would withdraw his clauses, and adopt those of the go vernment. (Hear, hear.) Sir O. ORIiY then said that in committee he would pro pose ►is emeniknenta, with the exoeption of the claws rest log to water. He thought that it would be better to have tr. bill printed in the amended state before it went through committee. Colonel SIBTHORP said that he wished he could have some explanation of the compromise that seemed to have taken place between the aohle lord and the government. Tits bill was then committed pro forma, and in answer to Mr. HODGSON, 84 0. GREY said that it would be recommitted on as end, day. ESTIMATES. In answer to Colonel &amour, Eir G. GREY said that it was particularly desirable teib i k, votes on account for the payment of the workmen. On Fri. day be hoped the house would agree to give him votes lb, m civil ount for the contingencies, for pnnting, a n d foe lb, new houses of parliament. (Hear, hear ) Col. BI BTHORP again rose, and protested, amidst much laughter, that he never would consult the convenience of any government whatever. WAYS AND MEANS. The house then went into committee of ways and meant. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER prop.%) that a vote should be taken for 8, 1 168,7001. of g iic h e , otr Bills, which tell dee early in June next. SIBTIIORP referred to the expenditure for the ne w houses, end said he had heard that day that the total cod would be 3,600,0001., and that, after all, it would not contaic half the members of that house. (Laughter.) lit rind r. stood it had been fitted up in such a luxuriant way ME .t was only JP for a harem. (Great laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER s.id th., vote had nothing whatever to do with the new house., he would not quarrel with any purpose to which the lt. A sad gallant member might think lit to apply m ein (Laughter.) In answer to Mr. A.RXWatOHT The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ta.: e, hoped to bring on the miscellaneous minutes on week. FEES (COURT OF COMMON PLEAS) BILL. Thin,hid was read a third time and pissed. MALLOW UNION. Sir D. NORREYS moved for copies of some corre , i ence between the Relief Commissioner or the LA'. Health and the government iospectoref the M,:o or any relief committee of the district, relative to thc sion of the fever hoenital. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the affair had taken . three years ago, and it would be extremely now to rake up ll the documents. The motion was withdrawn. BOROUGH COURTS OE' RECORD (IRELAND The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for Ireland oh!aice.: to bring in a bill to altar and amend the law proceedings by process of attachment of goods ;n the rough courts of record it Ireland. SAVINGS BANKS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER nom. the following as the select committee on savin.:c The Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Lira M.r.y Dublin, Mr. Henry Herbert, Mr. Gonlburn, Mr J • Abel Smith, Sir George Clerk, Sir William Gt.h.,r. (. r Mr. Heroes, Mr. Poulett &rope, Sir John Y.a 1 , , the Marqui s of Kildare, Mr. Ker Seymer, Mr. Adair, Mr. William Fagan, and Mr. Bramate The house adjourned at five minutes to one o'ci..cs. Ithe erpregg. OUTGOING MAILS. The mails for British North America an , i the L 1..., States will be made up on the evening of May 17. The mails for Lisbon, Spain, and Gibraltar up on May 17. The West India Mails, secluding Bermuda, Hayar.i.. , .. Nassau, lini.duras, New Orleans, and Mexico, and inc. -2 these for Madeira, St. Juan-de-Nicaragua, New Grica , and Peru, will be made up on the morning of Miy The mails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian 1..tr..1 Byypt, Ceylon, India, and China. eia Southampton... he made up on the morning of May 20. The mails rid Marseilles, to the Mediterranean, +.le)lon, India, Hoeg-Kong, dm., will be made ap eveaiag of May 24. in. snails fur Maderia, the Brazils, and Baeno. Ayres . - is made up on the evening of June 4. ef [OF WATTI AT LONDON NRIDOIL Aftkrauna, 3. ',. re...l.ftor—Marrutir. 4i. ..... Afternooa. . ; LONDON, TUESDAY, NAY 14. Tits Australian Colonies Government Bill oat of committee much as it went into it. the addition to the title (" as amended in C3MIE and on the consideration of amendments '') 1: w not be easy to distinguish the original bill from amended one. The only improvement worth no.: is the omission of the words which empowered (projected) general Australian Congress to !- regulations for the disposal of waste lands, an provement that Mr. EVELYN DENISON Wou:1 have expunged. _ _ . _ The . ireat"defect of the bill is its vaguenes obscurity, the vows quence of its faulty cons•ru.• The bill is not, properly speaking, a bill for the government of the Australian colonies. a bill for the separation of the r vine of Victoria from New South \\ and its erection into a separate colony, upon have been engrafted —as of quite secondary and , ordinate importance—provision:, for establishing t ' tive legislatures not only in the new colony be the entirely distinct and icdependent colonies of Diemen 's Land, South Australia, and (under cer conditions) Western Australia. The constitutions of colonies are enacted in a parenthesis.and by mean: vague allusion to the constitution of New South W Three colonies receiving for the first time repro,e tyre constitutions, are referred to two acts confer: a constitution on another colony, and 4.):d • are to adopt as much of them as is const-, c. the provisoes of an act for dividing that colony two. The three colonies are invited to make a • mony " of the three act, , , and take the resu:: t. , r constitutions. This is not much better than tt them to take Magna Charts, the Bill of Huth:- the iteorm Act, and make constitutions analozo that of England out of them. It is not giving stitutions, but materials whereof tocompose them. entailing upon them doubts, difficulties, and This faulty construction of the bill it was the the House of Commons to have amended : b:. few honourable members who take or prole-s to an interest in colonial affairs were so eager to by propounding and arguing abstract theories '7 nial government, that they could not condos:. the more humble but more useful task. Well, the bill, with all its limitJl,lmq p 1.4 several amendments having been negativ. thus much, at least, may be mid t confers upon three colonies immedie.. upon a fourth in perspective, representeiv. tares. The provisions of the bill are obscure—the admixture of government ::or.: the legislatures will be a source of fobbing scd tion—the reserved civil lists (curtailed though::. will disgust the colonists; but still the 0 have got legislative councils in which their re r tativie are the majority. The colonies have means of securing to themselves self-governn: all local matters. Downing-street may :Imago: time, but henceforth, if the Australian ea:on true to themselves, even Downing-street uv:st them in accordance with the local popular w of this the colonists are obviously aware, for al a man they have declared respecting the M . 0,1 '- is much better than we hop e d f o r ; give t: us means, and without loss of time." I3ut this wish of the colonies Mr. Gt.ll , sr,'% . in no humour to gratify. His mode of riht the bill was to refer it to the colonies for eonsid , r Within what conceivable period does Mr. (i imagine that men strugglingto reclaim the *sex uses of humanity would find time to study t%.. parliament and a bill, with voluminous amend counter-projects, and long speeches, and pro , opinion on them Mr. OLAnstonu evidenCy h; has to do with Oxford students—cttrions 01,;.% on the theory of constitutions. Hut the colonists are rough and ready men of want a constitution they can make use ot. sh 3 without loss of time. The truth is, tli' Gt.susroNn wished to constitute the ee:e:•• court of appeal, to which he might apply to the decision of the House of Commons on hi• siastical clauses. We suspect that if his were granted, the decision of the tribunal art' to would be infinitely leas palatable to 11:m that or the tribunal whose judgment hr seeke to reversed. Mr. HAWES anticipated this by the anneut: that Governor GREY had waived his object: , representative government, and that steps ". forthwith taken to introduce it into New Zes,lAl Mr. itoynceK moved that the provif. , "" the bill for instituting a general congrevo •• Australian colonies shall be extended to North America. Mr. lionni , cx advocated legislatures for each of the Australian colonic. , .!• they could be of no use. In a federation of co double legislatures would be of some use. lu the grease of the United States, the House of tires represents the aggregate body or A"V: citizens in proportion to their numbers ; in the • ••• each state has an equal number of reply&