The Express. — London, England, 1850-03-20 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARL LAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TozsDAT, Itasca 19. Tie bows Mt it IVO OAP& lArA LIMIDAJA Ott IS 21,k•r• - THTITIONB PRIPHIMIRD. AtilaitAnv somas is Nayr.—By the Marquis WHITMINSTER, flea the metraws of St. Georges Hetaid, eonseleisiag .1 taw panties of oesieteat eargeose la aan. Tan anwAnaow os Ills COM? CIT AratoA.—By Lord BROUGHAM, Ines Lansaw la Janata, sidddi apworla al 6,000 pause, eneinntso, *ate" aerossi. egmbet the whin awl el the Airisaa egambess, et do adertisa of say OPIWM/0 TAM would ISMS tbe and strbatoary et tbe bloats& el Gm seem el ...4 " 3 pray Se roes so Ise every siert to obtain tb• sealos6 el a ilvilteed amino to breed die *MN sinveryne Dirty. preesaull this gentles we Writ 01 his noble dog istlaal Meal lewd Dos ant, mite was pewreased hem delft es Initseit In eenemstase tedhpentiee, bat be difoieed to say. sad *eft braising would be and to kw, that bft aside sod leentrd Mead's Mew was act likely to Nel beg duals& (Hear, bear.) TM petition amid set Moo bees not se say eats sore wroweriate ide Bette sad Isersed He (Ler& )140nbent) ettateaded. with tbe peddle's% teet the slave trade earns to be marl eat by all end every swam of et all Murals coda sot usdiretesd sl ed of Riese site promo' to 'Mak that the blot way to put • asps ft wee to leave it does. (Hew, bele.) CONVICTS PRISON BILL. Earl ORLY ?imposed the third rasing of this bill math after Easter, RAILWAYS ABANDONMENT BILL. Oa the mottos of Earl ORAN VILLE., this bill wee read a third time sad posed. ADJOURNMENTEAS ER OF THRECEE HOUSE FOR THE SS. In reply to • question frets Lord The Marquis of LANSDOWNE (who meek* ia every Sew Wee of voice) was understood to say that the haws woad adjoins from this dey week (the 26th the kffiewing Thursday therthght. EXHIBITION OF THE INDUSTRY OF ALL NATIONS IN 1661. Lard BROUGHAM Wend to mil attendee te subject of whisk he bedew's satire, namely, to ash &gustiest epos which he would foetid a motion for s espy of the onamiseion for the imaaagemest ef the exhibition of the industry of all mellieme la ISM. He Wow that three would be a peU fishing Irma other amiss ; and whether it was held • Hyde Perk, which be hoped if would not be, or in the Rages* Park, or, where he sheath prefer seeing it, in the Visions Park. at the err mid of the town, be wad not but Wee his testimony to Use Minnesota patelealra deo mat and train's aliases whet had thee imeethel with th▪ e purest patriodom and the greatest love se their ethismen to support an ext.ibigioa whine man inevitably vein the prime or all the goods Is which they dealt. They would not find it so sweet atter a timer at int, bat II weraii me doubt be advantegeoas so them, is well as is thelreeithetheith la the sad. He hnped this would be assegited by the proteetinies as a boon from this memetheleren; sod It wee, therefore, is no spirt it hostility OW great eshibmiss that he brought forward the gaieties ; bat merely with the view of preventing the lungs of Leaden, as the perks bad bees denominated by Lord Chatham. frogs beim choked up by the erection of a great building he keen not ot how sway sees in newt for the ex hibition of 18.51. He considered that Hyde park was the very wont ?rinse that could bet chosen for the unties of that The Rail of CARLISLE could sot pies any information respecting the proceedings of the commissice, aa be did not belong to it ; and all he could state eas that a communies tiem had bees made from the oommissinsets (comprising preens who bad taken part in puhlie affairs of all parties), requiting that semen portion of Hyde-park, which it wag supposed could W wiped er , th the least interference with the public enveui:ace, ;Wald be granted for the erection of the necessary buildings for the great eshibition. Upin receiv ing this c =manned ,n from the e mmisioners,aad knowing that it had the full consent of thee:in/e'en, the &punnets to which be belonged did not feel it right to pat any obstruc tion in the way. Such a building, no doubt, for a limited period, must interfere with the lungs of the metropolisoie the parks had been called ; but he did not know why they should be at fa tender of the aristocratic l ineun in the ) West-end that of thou width seined no ther pert of the sorropols. (Hear, bear.) The open area el Hyde-park contained 270 acre', and Recee's-park 200 erns. The Vi ctoria-park war smaller thee either, and erse eiteated in the most densely populated locality in the whole mstropolis. (Hear, hear.) After some weverestion the subject dropped. ' JOURNEYMEN TAILORS. The Earl of WALDEGRAVE then rose, pursutnt to notice, to call the attenues of her Majesty's ministen to the ease of the iourneymea Wien in ohs 'metropolis, as regards their contracts for the supply of clothing to the Castors haws, ordnance, police and am. The noble earl made some cbservations whieti wore quite inaudible in the gallery. The Earl of MOUNTCASHELL said the cue of the jouraepies tailors wee indeed a deplorable one. It was only parallel to the ease of the outertunate hand-loom weavers. Be believed that Hurt was also the greatest dis trait smear the journeymes theemaker-, es any noble lord who reed the limn in the Murrung Cliroasth oa Labour sad the Poor mien see. Be believed that this suffering was mainly °Wag is two asses—one being over population end the other free teed,. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE add, as the noble lord had called tee atteation of her Majesty's government to this subject it wee unman that he should say a Lew words upon it. Be believed, that the ease et the journeymea tel lon was a very hard one, bet at the same time, the noble lord must not flatter hhaself that it wee possible for govern ment, is oppoeitin to all the laws that regulated supply ant demead, to ameliorate the coedit's& of the journeymen tailors or say other claas Omen by inserting peculiar laws for the pur pose of prose , vies them fres the depression that existed. The sable lord adverted to the system of government °estrum, sad observed that it was is the power of government to avert some of the distress by giving up the system of untnieta. Now the noble lord was aware that the whole hasisess of government was earned as by entrees; and it would be impossible to prevent it, except by government taking into is urn hands the manufacture of all ankles it sight want, and that would introduce suck a system of impend= that it would require a whole army of officials to keep these who wen employed by government in the manafacture of thus articles honest. Her Majesty's government weld not alter die pelmet system with mud to matters, nor would any legislation o f the subject n• attended with any advantage to that particular class of ?noes. PAROCHIAL SCHOOLS OF SCOTLAND. The Duke of ARGYLL, who had a notice oa the paper of Intention to present a petition praying the house to refuse its consent to say bill that may les proposed peewit lag to alter the enstitution of the parochial echoole of Soot land, said, masidering the preset state of the home, he should pompons Witten forward the petition till Friday, when he hoped there would be a better attendance. Their lordship adjoureed at half-past 6. MOUSE OF COMMONS.—TImaDAT, MADAN 19. TM Swami trek the chair at Mr Venal. PRIVATE BUSINESS. RAILWAY SECURITIES. Mr. E. ELLICE wool— liest IS eINOW bßedvlat the preentmeim it be se Wino lieu Who gssin b e sash bibs In Wer the bionisgebess 3 1 . Trended Mier sed le h. b e d, Mee t oendeges sir WM, es e="aof Inmet er dinged, en Imo err sink or agramsne eress ear looms dietend., mole ergrosied by the see. prey to empeinesi Mire ticpeons of MO end Minima Ire et the tine et the prime of Oben. dna. &rim the entlimmee thseeef. be,. Mr* env any merlomes err MM. er et Omen or Ondeede a genre deem or steek nom isStNelsbe cede or pease W Mtge el this ea: end flat sea est -stied nun be any of be nil tediminny sr Ms. Me* ellen the sear* Si sub Serdiser miteless Sc lei. is gusesesses se eireenents le postatas." He steins that Anthem only reined to the whisk bed been ecatemted ender the seamier of = i t= Me bad maimed ea the maw with the right Ma. the President et the Beard ot Trek, who tbeu*kt the maw ISO reguiriag rem attention. the right hi.. gentlemen would give it his nosideretkia. and Mktg the saner before the railway ememinionen, be Inies) meld be enteat to withdraw his resolution. Mr. W. PAT TEN said he bed Wes setae of his lame ties to oppose the alarm; bet be did net object to ita being left to the railway department of the iota of Trade. Mr. LABOUCHERE mid M entirely agreed is the principle of the resolatioa—the priscipie that the house should take care net to allow say security which it bad mactiond to be Whinged es. The motion wee then withdrawn. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. Ithrtostea. ZDVOLTION.-117 Er. BRIGHT, from the Wiese n/ and members al the Ortgregatimal Board of Mu sette., stable that eime 1643 they bed spent 130,0001. in Milting Wools, besides subscription is support of them; that they had established two ammal sad two medelschoola ; that they disapproved of mate from the patella finds for religious teaching sada the effects mak in this ematty sad the colonies to brim education under the direetieu of the state; sad preying Cm the discontinues* of tie greets mole by the committee of privy easel to the Anima Beelety, and that Mancini deaths left tothe voluatary seal et the people. Tea BALLOT.—By Mr. BRIGRT, from the elesion of Ilionkport, in favour Si the hallo‘ dined by 631 out el 1,170 electors, sow on the miner sad able to vete, sal by a ma jority of 61 over die numbers polled by Mr. Reath et the election 10847. The SPEAKER denied that this petition wee informal, owing to the reference in It to the with of Mr. Heald on the recent debate m the ballet, and that, therefore, it could not be nosived. Aralgall 8417ADSON.—By Mr. MUNTZ, from Binnhig hem. sonnet the centinuasco of the African e9nadtoll. ADVZILTIIIIIINT DUTY. —By Mr. lIUNIZ, from con . pooling of the Barsingoteme Mcrewy, for a repeal of the ednetionseat duty. Facture L•novit.—By Mr. 'tarn, from the kande employed ia tin new of Sir Elkus! Mallet., and from the heads is a Remy in To/labial; Sir R. IN L IB (place not heard) ; Mr. BANK ES, from Gbeegow, Ashton, Staley. beide., and in lave., of Lad Ashley's bill on this subjeet. Coavatar. Go aaaaaa wr.—By Lord JOUR RUSSELL, beet seieniste of Austrelik stages that they highly ap pend Si lie principles ea which the bill for the govern. Smut of the miense was lemled, end considered the policy d ohm mumps as =lsm* saiselst•d to attach the colo nial* the same weary ; Illy Winks it desirable that r N ,d r • - "1 4 s. 1 wpaiket — 'MING. MARCH 20 , ns . 1850. altertioas might, sot be vire thiPlea p sibmittettli( the govetemest, bat made afterwards in *es Won ; Ana three* preyed** house to post the bill it wee now Ireesed. The pond* wee sive* by some of the meet ble beitede of the missias. respira *moor Sutra Tuna.—By Sir It H. INGLIS, from the tramisee of the Char* *Meissen Satiety of Africa sad the East; Mr. HEALD, fees the Walnut • Miroicasof Sorry; Si, I. H. BUXTON** Jameise L Et. Isma i lia** Wean, mai Norwood; Ms illOWlEUlLleteat the British Aad-illavery llosiatj ; Mr. MOFFATT. the Anti- Siren Saks, of Enter ;* graylartist there druld be ao reined* la the means entployil Me the sepperies of the slave imam BUSINESS OF THE MOVEN. ' Mr. W. PATTEN moved that. as EhasedWA Ole VIM of April. sad es every sheer* Tharany user libis 1116 day of Mop baler's, orders of the day have peonalemee arises amerces, without eras polarity to WEB lalsoisomil by the gereameat." The hon. pothered* lis ream aim fee propelling this matos ems the rat araitss 111 aft in the beads of ',divider membsee. eassaatieg ao IS whoa. the lim be Idea was madeout, sad whirs mother had bra rase eammeated. Seam of these were of very great importemes ; ad, to give these a Omar of I=l this 9111. eta. it was aberstry seaman HO dig g• se tin ether hoes* at an. pulite peel* theta bed hoes the ear ia pre maw" as gra eemplaism lead, bra made is **ether keen that there was set sulisiest time to reader them. The amities wee aimed to mitimat remark. _RETURNS ORDERED. Oa the of Mr. C , the foll.wics returns were wired : Brans of the Lumber of stalwart, and proem doss for breaches of the malt laws in mica kingdom ditriag the last duo years. ending the Bth day of Jemmy, ISM.— Return, in aoatinuatim Gm the ye* 1849, of radian*. tary Paper, No. 6118. of ;eerie 1849, cmverting ewe. *to quarters, and stating the weight per qaarter allowed for each kind of meal; verbalise thaw° a eau*, showing the value et Marrs from the eras ormatries (if ao value of im ports other than the olidel mlee out he givea. then tbe Obeid *lse to be gives), *cleat* of grata, an I. flour, and live stock ; sad addiag thereto a column, shout' g the value of the total Jerre from the era counirke ; the lett column to be phased la Jeztapeed . ion with the declared value of exports gives in the peerless resin ; plating at the hat of *eh crams of gee* the annual average pries of each kind of grate.—Ratura of the qesauties and values of the different articles of British produce and manufacture shipped from the United Hind.= to each Gamy s d de nse) of the British more including Calcutta, Madras, End Bombay, mid the lonian I:lands, daring the year 1849, together with as abstract of the same. POOR-LAW SUPERANNUATION FUND. In reply to a question by Sir B. HALL, Mr. BAINES said that the subject, of a superannuation taad for poor-law officers bad bees very much pressed on th• poor-law board. The quasi* WY now ander con sideration, end he hoped to be able to introduce •• bill upon it after Better. PUBLIC HEALTH (IRELAND). In *serer to Mr. °Roof*, Sir W. SOMERVILLE said that be hoped to be able to Warr la a bill, soon after Baster, to make better prevision for the public health is Ireland. /*STRESSED UNIONS (IRELAND) BILL. I• MOW Of 100;1011•1 Stogroor, Lin J. RUSSELL said that he would roomed with thh somoure ea Monday next. AUSTRALIAN COLONIES BILL. Mr. GLADS :ONE wished to know from the noble lord the first minister of the aeon, whether her Majesty's Remnant win willing to make Fukien, in the Austra lian Colonies Government Bill, for the application of tbs principle of local self-government to the affairs of the Church of England in those colones, by declaring that it shall be lawful lor the bishops, clergy, and lay members of that church to establish legalities', on the footing of consent, among themselves, and subject to say restraints which may be thought necessary foe the management of those affairs. Lord J. RUSSELL said he was afraid he would not be abls to trams clauses whisk would carry into effect the ob. jest as right boa. gentlensaa had in view, without raising tho gumboot gine, power which might be found neon. 'Meat *the coke** TENDERS FOR SUPPLYING THE NAVY. In answer to Col. Caarroon SIT P. T. BARING and that fog some years the contraabl for provisions had bees ore to foreign tenders as well as M I horns tenders. A contract had been opened in Seotembet last for 6,0(0 tinges, of which 1,500 had been tan from foreigners, and the remainder from the mostly of the hos. and gallant Aker. He saw no reason to alter the present practise of npplying the navy. With regard to hssel to which the hon. gentleman alluded, he could only as; that be was not acquainted with any such transaction as that to whisk be referred, the olio, of *emigration comenimigessa not being under the jurisdiction of the Adosiraltrelies. But with regard to the foreign provisions which led bon supplied to the navy they hid been reported to him as ham very Rood. Col. CHATTERTON said thathe would bring the subjoin before the honer aMr Easter. IRISH POOR LAW. Col DUNNE wished to wk the noble lord at the herd of be government whether it was his intent on to glee effect es the suggestions made to him by a depute: ion of peen and member* of the House of Commons, connected with Ireland. or introduce amendments in the present roor law which they Aare recommend*, in order to alleviate the evils it inflicts on all classes in that country. Lord J. RUSSELL said that he believe I the suggestions mole to him were to the effect that the administration of oat • door relief had been attended with great abuses, and that it was desirable not to give outdoor relief tempt in cases of eh. solute necessity. That was a general observed As, and wit as a general proposition he was ready to agree. But he did not think the present poor law required amendment in that respect, because the oomosissiouers had now the power if imposing restraints on the administration of outdoor relief. ABOLITION OF THE IRISH VICEROYALTY. Mr. HUME said that he had a motion on toe paper ea this subject, bat as he *dant.* that the goverment *- tended to bring in a bill to abolish the office, he wished tes know whether that was the feet, as in that case it would be unnecessary for him to being on his motion. Lord J. RUSSELL said the subject was under maiden. ti n, and • bill would be shortly brought is meaning it. MINISTERS' MONEY (SCOTLAND.) Mr. COWAN pee notice that he would put a question the noble lord at the bead of the government, whether it was the intention of the government to introduce • meant* kr altering or monis" the present male of provideag for dm payment of the mm tiers of the established char* is Siinburgh and Montrose by ministers' money. (lieu, hear.) SLAVE TRADE TREATIES. Mr. HUTT, in rising to move, that an humble address be presented to her Majesty. praying that her Majesty will be pleased to direct that negotiations be forthwith entered Into for the purpose of releasing this country from all treaty 1 1: meats with foreign states for maintaining armed • loa the mast of Africa to suppress the traffic in slays., said that the time had at last arrived when, in accordance with the ripens of two committees appointed by the house Ile onside? the qasiden of the suppression of the slave trade, it beams as duty to submit a motion to the hours on that gran end impagnot subject. The motion to which be invited their eilmotioa was a declaration that it was =pad's* Ihr the Ggellidey to assist from all future attempts So isithe claw Made by force of arms. To carry out Ihn" . v, _ dseinmellemM was, in the AM place, necessary that this amok, mesh lw released from all those engagements' which bound thin to maintain a 'quadrates the coast ofAfrica. The (nannies of the ezpediney of making such a change is their policy was strongly impressed on the minds of both the Maintitten of which he had the honour to be the Ginkgoes. It was now onesind.thirtr years ago dale SOISS Priaa, having *tared into engagements sad Mb name Wain with foreign states, despatched to the aeon if AM sa armed vitals in order to carry the objects lif *me ~am bee execration; and then began that gegnireblea WNW* ef the *est of Africa, the trus character Of mid*, m well es the Cittllalitaoollll of its final abandon- Mak hid yin to be wet tea in the pages of their history. I Me areemer had they taken the lint mama for the sap id the slave trade than it began to incense. In slum had bees exported from the coast it Make. which was the highest amount that inhuman traffic Mei mach* in say year up to that period. Its 1819 it gm sated to 105,000, and not only was the number in- enesed, but the trade was serried on under circumstances *ready aggravated atrocity. (Hear, hear.) Such, indio, had bustle propose of the slave trade, that the Duke en Wellington, the minister of this country at the enigma of Verona, acting under the directions of Mr. Cicala', then Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, laid before the assembled ministers who fermented the different states of Europe in that nag em • memorandum, to one part of which h e homed to invite the ' potholer attain* at the ben* It as folk*: I hare the memo drift that the claw langle has bum *es the year lets, and nave laamnall as to a emu* anent tena It had tom ▪ Illff limerysefed. Ibis eeeteedeoltarle Yetemdel by drosor. Mom mob nose WNW lbws etylltei lot bee ewe boo Mews behmer diem Me est orsorrory Imo in mansgete tile binges empeeder but it mend ha dense ell Os wiseX i btrema. Ina ban koind be immen mewls Oben= sod*. widen hemallenas rade& asesedkg the Imam piths seamismagniniellnedaregy. 21s ban detserlso= samaimeat reikadive *the min aradad _.Dameggemsipatesa Inerda s iosei are fr o ken Nse tbetogeoft edam sod the matary tr essus miar•a Vim the et Imeted immiled Se Ili bones et adelreffie. lbwe Is so bedledni in dont weellbeie tem kr moo rramillas Imoolly. and *it taw • eallifolllllftill. et hums him weld Mee bet lbw SIM by loyeetos eoltemleidleb. Sae MY bed ewe base also. Niel by the knout mgr toodb7. Such was the dieedittiot tie sieve trade addressed to tbst Melee ad imer by two st first men of the age, and It at • Wee when ice d NA elleillhed many of those horrible ebarestarkeim which herleopl to it at a later period Some efforts wen amordiary made to continuo the work of isuppremila e emd for 1 or 16 years afterwards Great Britain siege every porible effort to suppress the slave trade by eziemilag the gums for in forced r. prwlon. his. sores ware akin telecoms. the number of their cream on the comet ed Akita, sad by-and-bye steamboats were added to the saline Wink. Powers were obtaised from almost all the Mateo if Zeroye to anise along the coast, mid to /sit sad seen* swegassad vessels on the high ens. Br* I, Por tugal, sad Brio were placed under the influence of more rigid treaties, and ne measures were overlooksd or left *tried which aithet the enthusiasm of Enter. hall or the ability of the Foreignnflics could slip* (Hear, hear,.) Bat what had been the end of all this industry sad exertion ? lie had already read to the house the doniption of the Duke of Wellington in 1822. In 1839 another eminent individual—one loved and honoured in their own time, and who certainly, he thought, well deserved to be remembered hereafter—gave another description of this traflic. Lod John R *sell, in 1839, he being then Boeratary for the Colonies, addressed a letter to . %1111. ' 1111161111.11114" grbili th e • " 6111111114 • .--•••- 17 . 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It maliamil— . bath MIMI Seery Mee Make M Eels kr the exespeeth I Eisgsmieldrarl=teolfzeisamEnibls k o om disol=i7o: wham hat, meths 116 th e seenholl of Mee maga w hole in the impieties semis' hat a who el the dal 'MU et the maseass wadi Ode = lll.ll allste ea kiddies. So ram% adds et limmealtleass who math in thomitemajormay Mho Akira seed, sr Utbis= amendsMaas. er of the stilt maw avember who la a to the mem, Mr" sad ereeMbyethisa the Me mash rod. • • • mus e d se mamma the may werament anwe alas% It my imt tem Yet seek is the aillareate is ms the /Mat Meta dew Wreathe on theses* ef Able wed *sprigs far Mai Ms mid is Brea or Cabe, that the hems, re. ague Mk ble perstammemy twdshl ea the safe soled d his vend st th is Sol thattnehm we met add we this =aft ma Ilse the latish is derived tram Memo and Mosoce essemedes. en sordid se to a great mask wastiosd medal lanteela UM oath efromairmess. to repo. the hedge alses waists as mord maid seasely he pwihla It the whale Mat my ande be mama is thee perms. It tem sell Miek GM WNW he whermadr eassantansa ca r d =system am.= tlo c zg l i t lieseities. MMus age be slow the = that it M lidepeneable to eater tapes me sew menthe mutes. (lieu, Mr.) It Y tree the was written with the view of support * the Niger exudation; bat as it was written, Ike had se doubt, in a spirit el elesertv sad truth, ell thle general' awareices and facts Mesta forward, must be of a general domes, and he did the noble lord se eras in resdlag the , though it was not taleaded to be used es on leaden like the present. Bat this warn not all. In the year, in 1840, a great assembly was held is =L i, at which Prince Albert presided. He was supported by the edible lord on that erecadoe, by the rlikt honourable madam opposite (Sir 8.. reel). by, he dime's, the reprosentatives it Oxford University, by a perfect combatted's.. lords spiritual and temporal, sad ceurds of wellamnd ladles and gentlemen. (Hear, hoar.) Now be had bees meld of ming strong language, mad a entartniniag some my dark and impracticable noel= en the sabgest et the dm Made. But let his sok the ateestila of the loam bathe Imam a the roolutione pared at' the albetleg Is hutst SAL The first resolutlos, mama by bir F. Ba=tas, sad anosaded by the prewar Arad**, of Csateshary. wasegthr Is time words : Sowelamadl metes hitherto MOM for sapproMea of Masa trading in ahem the kale he hasizM h seed the collathes le increm waft, dromilmer of sepaymboa The most resondies was proposed by pre Idlebbthalis and esmadod by An Wilberforce, now the Bebop of Oxford, and Maim& a the CM vitae in tho lime Lords. It wen es *Awe t That the Mr failure dewy attempt by treaty, remsestrasm . at naval annesmt. to r the aof the leave traile. Mew the neuselty anwerelm to a policy, founded op Mama sad higher priedpies. Why, he (Mr. Hatt) had said nothing stronger than this. (Hear, hear.) The cammittes of the Home of Commons, of which he was chairman, brought forward no al mations of a more rringent nature than those contained is these resolutions, either in regard to the exteneiele of the slave trade or to the failure of the measures adopted fog its suppression. (Hear, bear ) But what surprised him was, that these very persons should now unelsrtaks the defence of that system the failure of which they bad so proclaimed. (Hoar, bear.) He arrived now at the year 1840. That year was distinguished by a temporary but remarkable diminution is the slave trade, and there Were egilain naval alma who were anxious to persuade the world that that diminution was caused by th eir proms sad performances on the coast of Africa. ("Hear," and a laagh.) Now he believed that Captain Denman and Captain Hansel were most zealous and meritorious tams, but when they claimed for their plans and performances the merit of this reduction in the slave trade at that period, be thought they were labouring under the delesios of that parish sexton who believed that the large attendance at a certain parish church was entirely explaioed by the manner in which he tolled the church belle. (Laminar.) lie saw near him his right hon. friend the First Lord of the Admiralty, who about that period happened to be Chancellor of the Exchequer, and he was sure he at least, though otiose might forget it, would remember that the period to which be was now sdverting was a period of great mercantile demo doe. Now any asensalile depression affected the Sam trade just a. much as any of the legitimate breaches of commerce. and that depression was one of the concurrent causes of the great diminution in th • slave trade. (Hear, hear.) But there was another emus a a remarkable Moue. ter in operatics at that time. At that period both Cubaand Brazil were honestly engaged in attempting to prevent the importation of slaves into these countries. (Hear, hear.)l Mr. G ere Ouseley, whese despatches had been laid on the table of the house se our minister at Brazil, attributed the' diminution mainly to the exertions which were made by that intelligent and excellent man Se nhor Cavaleante, the Bra zilian Minister of Marino to suppress the trade. (Criss d' ' " hear hear.") At that same period General Valdez we governor of Cub*. In 1843 he was recalled, and about the same time the antislavery miaistry of Breil were voted Int l of office. Commerce then revived, and with the revival el commerce, notwithstanding the increased efficiency a ear fleet, came again all the horrors of the slave trade. In 1842 the number of slaves exported from Africa sunk down to 30,000. In 1843 the number roes to 65,000; in 1848 to 76,000; le 1447 to 84,000; and though he (Mr. Hutt) had not been fuskked with the means of ascertaining the numbers in the hea two years, or the manner in whist' the trade was carried elk yet he had learned, from such means as were within his reach, that in late years, as well as at present, the slave trade was in an unusual data of activity. (Hear. Item) He Lund ia a piper laid on the table of that house last year, a state-1 meat made by a person well qualified to form a judgment, in , sustentation of that opinion. The piper he sUuded to he l then held in his hand, which was • letter written by one of a party of missionaries to the King of Aehanues. The letter was written from the coast of Africa, and was dated 1843. It commenced by stating: " It is a distressing fact that, notwith standing our blockade, there is no check whatever to the dave trade. It flourishes now to a degree ' as the last ace counts from Brasil report, unparalleled. Not long ago a eall/0, which could cot find buyers, owing to the over crowded state of the market, was sold to repay the cost of treieht. ( Hear, hear.) Notwithstanding the presence of our ship., the slave trade has been progressing, which most convincingly proves the futility of the attempt to suppress the inhuman traffic by force alone. The precautions mean- may to avoid oar comers compel the slavers to cram their wretched victims In the bold, mkt they are crushed to suf focation. (Hear, bear.) There can be no doubt that muck of the miff ring would he avoided if there were no squadron on the coast." (Hear, bear.) Now, slash was the end they arrived at after 30 years, during which period they were eopaged in the work of suppression. (Hear, hese) There was one feature in the history of suppresion with& wa. well worthy the attention of the house. Up to the year 1840 the slave trade to Braz.l was perfectly ties. (Hear, bear. l l Up to 1840 we creed not molest the slave trade south of the Equator. Lord Palmerston, in his evi dence before a unimitteee declared that "up to 1840 the importation of slaves into Brazil was unrestricted." (Hear, hem) In 1840 they first obtained the right to suppress the slave trade south of the Equator ; and accordingly they despatched their squadron there. What was the result ? Ho mat not by his quastiou to ask what was the temporary, bra an permanent result ? Before the slavers resorted to smog/110g and other edifies@ their squadron captured nuay laden slavers; bat that was not the question. What was the state of things at present south of the Una) Why, that the slays trade was going oa with as great activity as ever ; sad the fact was that, notwithstanding the presence or ab eam of their squadron, the importation of slaves into Brazil was not restricted, and the squadron had produced no change whatever in the elitist of the slave trade. (Heat, hear.) On the contrary, it appeared that the importation of slave. into Brazil, within the last six or urea years, bad overdoes the demand, notwithstanding that that demand had beet stimulated by the acts of the British parliament, which ad mitted Brazilian sugar to marketaot this country. (Rear.) It bad been established before that house, as essay mmm bare of committee might recollect, that his sameatal were baud on far, as regarded Brazilian 1 1 1111w1 Now, he placed these facts before the sass a the hooes. and Awl was it pose.ble that their squadron emit be *Mk what it cost, or worth anything at all, when it mode se differeacis in the amount of slave, bought and gold ; eat whoa, notwithstanding the increased demand, the alma wets cheaper in Brasil than when the traffic was unre- stricted. (Hear, hear.) There was not in history an instance of a lucrative commercial speculation befog so supposed. (Hear, bear ) Ho bogged to call attention to the Berlin and Milan decrees spinet British sanafeetares, and which endeavoured to exclude them from all ordinary channels of traffic. (Hear, hear.) Tv, despite the power of Napoleon, thus manufactures toned their way thronigh the passes of Macedonia, and into every capital of Europe, until they were modem found at the hall doors of houses even in Berlin. (Hear, hear.) He recollected when an hoe. friend of his flourished a " Ban dans" handkerchief in the face of the Chancellor of the Bachequer, whoa a similar suppression was attempted by that hoses. (" Hear, " and laughter.) Therefore it was idle to think th at the slave or any other traffic could be suppressed by the application of force. It was a gnat soosolation to those who bad undertaken the duty of Ile poaching the suppression system and to himself (Mr. Hutt) is particular, to examine the evidence laid before parliament, as well u to know that the views expressed by him, year after year, on the abject. wen fully corroborated by indi viduals, who, from their knowledge, obtained by pudica application, were best able to judge of their mats. (Hoare hear.) He was not then going to trespass on the time of the house with an elaborate analysis of the evidence taken before various committees which sat on the questioa. The committee which eat last examined a vast number of wig wams, naval officer., ntosionaries, and travellers of all closets, and the result was a mass of o inflicting evidence. It was to be observed, that the missionaries especially had no more knowledge of the slave trade than if they had never I. ft London—(laughter)—end though strongly In favour of continuing the squadron, they could give no rims why it should be continued. Of the wltasso a most competent men the naval officers engaged in the squadron, of whom the committee e ozonised fourteen, includim two commanders of Me woad/co; sad It was remarkable that whilst all the Allege 'UN Imi rtamggsagenistasse with the slave trade who had mere hiliglims as regeedbil he emporia—them =sof llhe mats to be weeembabythu needree were the who were seven ee sight pests eamegnalged edit the trade or soot of ANus. (Hess, hear.) Hay-,, tag vestal the mildenes. th. Until . flif this position, bet Be weed& next premed to another part of the soh jest, They heel es they peessodedokat although the rabid* had agreed many admirers, mill eves amen those whe believed Si the • suppression wf the system by is.., there wanness who thought the peseta applied= .of the priasiple• lathiest 's, use. (Rest.) It was rather em s ,that, after the merino of thirty years,_eliens peaditan of twenty-fin sillies of messy la WI pent albs sedum they should fo es it was bad, end regithedi groat moillmtkia. (Hoer, bear.) A paper had bees pissed in Made that him that ea ermademat mead be mov e d to modes. (Rear, hest.) He hued thetas bus. gentleman the member foe Derby shire wee si lSh e et dam whe, eltheogle sheerly is fa. weer of hem, thoeibt yet that the moaner la whisk lbe was 'odd not bo maenad. That ben. Readings brought Istwavd • eosat* Lirolo t ee which he (Kr. Hutt) new a great deal that was u (bear, bear)—• great deal that was obesure—(hear, hear) — and • great deal that was aaLul lgiblu (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) One thing, however, wee plain, that hi bon. friead thought the Fremont system was one that re quired to be filtered. (Hear, hear.) Now, though his boa. Mend had not ezpriesed himself N plain 13= there were these who did ; fur they had a gained aim % thus that " would put dome the slave t •11 the go ; unman would only noels the fora oaths comet of Africa.' (t. Hear, hear," and laughter.) Another 'diet emir informed them that he could accomplish the ablest with 40 ships, with a proportionate number of steamers, and by pay. lag • tubsitly to the native chiefs along th e oust. (Laugh ter.) The Chieftatice of Sierra Leone thought the object Dania be accomplished by establishing Indium poets along the satire sea-board, and by etenging the disposidon of die wide* etib—(laughter)—whilst in the Hones of Lords Sir C. lictlism bad been convicted of mismanagement, and several noble lords thought they could manage matters better themselves. (Renewed laughter.) A little more ma. aseement. aad a little more expense, thought they, and the this' was done. (Laughter.) He (Hr. Butt) was swag that it implied • deficiency in good manners and breeding to advert to the matter of expense and taxation (hear, and laughter)—and doubtless he would have to bear the wit and .wage of the aeble lord at the bead of the government on the present es on a fanner ODOSOIOII, whim the stable lord made use of the words, that " those who could not think deeply, complained of expenditure." (" Hear, hear," and laughter.") However, according to the natural power of his (11r Butt's) mind, he was led to edge that the extravag pauses of the country amounted to a very heavy sum. (Hear, hear.) He entertained the souvietion that, if it were the destiny of this greet and free eountry—the greatest and freest that ever existed—to be torn to pieces by revolutionary violence, it would not be brought about by angry conflicts of party, by the corrupt. lag agency and influence of the crown, or by the inroads of demeratio principles, bat by the emission of its Monad imedition. (Hear, hear.) That evil destiny would be Ahmed by the disregard of national expenditure, while, (a some evil hour, would hurl to its hese the Weds of public credit (Hear, hear.) He hoped therefore the noble lord would forgive his toe speaking ol expendi ture ; beano* it was ri ally too gnus to pay away 700,0001. annually in propping up an abortive system. (Hear, hear.) He would not weary the home with any I-bound peroration. He hal, he thought, made out his WOO, and he now ;appeal. d to the members of the house,: as the guardians of the inter- ste and the prosperity el the country, as the protectors of its honour and its fame, as humane sad euisiian men, to put an end to this gruel and deluges system, whose final doom could not be very distant, by aupportiag the motion which he had now the honour to submit. (Cann.) Mr. BAILLIE seconded the motion, contending that B was acting a despicable part in regard to slavery, having actually become a receiver of swim gads, for, while keeping up ape , seances with her African squadron, she was profiting more largely than any other country by the slave ayeteen,liaving thrown open her ports to slave-grown sugar. He regretted that the fine talents of Lord Brougham and ethers had been thrown awl.; is support of a system now proved to be worse than worthless, but it was a fitting result of a course of wretched policy that our'thlers should now be obligee to announce to the nations of the world that free trade having now Wenn triumphant, the slave trade must henceforth be free. Mr W. EVANS withdrew an amendment of which he had given notice, bat in a lengthened speech argued that it would be an awful thing to withdraw our ships, and leave the whole of the African coast open to the lawless traffic in slave , . He described some el the horrors of the old unre stricted trade, and disputed the assertion that any atrocities of a similar character were new practised ; and he repeated • statement he bed road, that no such tic ertality occur. d on board the modern slavers as had taken place in some of our own emigrant vessels. Mr. LABOUCIIEBE said he was convineed that his boo. friend (Mr. Hutt) in no degree tried to coaceal hem them his intentions, and the consequences which he exuded to follow from the coons which he desired them to adopt. He told them that in calling en the hens- to require tram government that it should at once take measures to withers" that squadron which had hitherto watched that coast, and proposing no substitute whatever to check the slave trade, he wished them, the Commons of England, to announce to the world that hencienrward, se tar as they were soncerned, this execrable traffic should prevail over every sea s without let or hindrance, and that they gave up an oboe', for which they and greater men than that house now contained had straggled and laboured—(cheers) —that tleiy gave up this question, se far as this mustily was concerned, sad took no interest in it whatever, and that the influence of Bruised should not weigh in the scale. How yen desirous the people of this country may be to reduce the expenditure, be believed that he was truly representing the feelings and wishes of the people of England when he said that he could not acquiesce in such a decision without giving it the most mature coasidera due, and without the house deliberating, weigh ing all the consequences that might follow, and with out their examining, in the minutest manner, every step that they shou.d make in this retrograde and degenerate course. (Hear, hear.) He would say that he be:ieved that the people of this country would, if sot immediately, at no distant period, call them to a strict account for entirely misrepresenting their feelings it they now adopted the motion of his hen. friend. Neither the bon. gentleman who made the motion nor the hon. gentleman who seconded, di-guised from the house their opinions on this subject. They proffered to them no scheme which would answer u a substitute for the squadron; they did not profess to be lieve that the slave trade would not immediately revive, and be as freely carried on as any of thou lawful trades in silk or any other oommodiiy. By the hon. gentleman's course they would only put a stop to what was mildly termed smuggling, and the slave traders would then follow the ordinary rules of just and legitimate commerce. There could be no doubt or difficulty with regard to the question which was really before the house, and he implored the house, before they came to a decision, gravely to weigh the evidence on which they were asked to form as opinion, as to what were the results of their attempts to suppress the slave trade, and as to what would be the consequences of their witbdrawing the squadron. (Hear, hear) It was said that by the withdrawal they would save several hundred thougands; that was a Menke. The hon. gentleman presumed too much when be thought that ships of war would not be otherwise necessary la the African sea-. If they were to withdraw all their navy from the seas they would do a serious injury to their own commerce, at could be testified by the bon. member for Liverpool, who carried on an extensive trade with Africa. Tatty should not now tars their beck upon and discourage that trade, and lie would express big best hopes of the flnsl extinction of this evil, the existence of which was the shame of civilised nations. The hon. gentleman (Mr. Hutt) had argued against the presest system, and seemed to have made a - cage out at once when he stated that the squadron had not succeeded in suppressing the slave trade. Nobody believed that it would put an end to the slave trade ; but he believed that it could be proved to demonstration that own they withdrew the squadron until other means had had time and epportuulty to come into full operation, and to sequin stability, they would at once throw the ocean open to the slave nude, and would re plunge Africa into scenes of blood, horror, and alarm. Then every spark of human feeling which may now exist on the pert of the sellers and purchaser of slaves would be extinguished, and the slave trade would increase to • frightful extent. The number of slaves in Brasil and Cuba would locums% and the con sequence would tae a state of things that they would cuss to deplore, and they would then have to regret the policy which induced thus to abandon the plan which they had hitherto, and with some degree of siaticese, per severed in. The priest thismoment of an adult negro in Cuba and Brazil was 1001. The price paid tag the A.rian coast was 201. And now he weld sea what would be the expense of bringing each from the Coast of Afriea if then was to be free trade in slaves. Mr. Hodge bad undertaken to take liberated regrets from Sierra Leone to the colonies at the rate of 81. le. 104. for every man. If there was free trade in slaves he wield colonists the expense of carrying • slave from Africa to Cubs or Breed at 61. 10s. The value, then, of a slave on his being landed in these countries would be 261. 10e, instead of 1001. This extreme dlfferthee of price at once showed the limit that was placed ea the importation of slaves from Africa. What would be the consequence of the removal of the squadn:m ? It was plain that the slum as they diminished in rodeo, would become objects of south lesa ears, and the result would be that that frightful practice which was called using-up slaves would be carried to a much greater extent than it was at present; Cuba and Brasil would be continually supplied with fresh cargoes, and there would be anOnStent stream of slave labour from Africa to those countries. The evidence given before the Hones of Lords showed that the prise of a men adult In Cuba in 1821 was 201.; in 1847 it was 1001. ; and in 1818, 801. In lined in 1621 it was shown to be 201., and in 1847 to be 681. He was quite willing to rest his case on the authority of Sir Chutes Heehaw, and hie would venture to state to the house his belief that if they should withdraw this squadron without making an effectual substitute, the slave trade would run on without control. , The right hon. gentlemen then produced the evidence which had been given by Sir Charles Hotham before a committee. In answer to a question as to warither the removal of the squadron would be injurious, Sir Charles Retina stated it as his opinion that to withdraw the squadron without offering a substitute "mid be highly injurious to this great country, which had been embroked for so bag a thee in such a great cure, and said that he would regret to hear that it was the intention of government to withdraw it without substituting something In its place. la answer to another question as to whether it would be injurious to the interests of the inuntry, his reply was worthy of the high and personal ehmseter of that distinguished He smutted that in a ease of that description he sgpr• ebeaded that the honour and interest of the country attain Meat go together; and he wished the eththilithee farther to sidereal:id that, without entering alpthe W esetioa as to whether the number of slaves would 1 100 Manua et not, he amount of cruelty inflicted on them Weal hi Ihellhiled by the withdrawal of the squadron. He meal amuse to another part of the subject which, he Methelleek deemed the mast serious cousideration of the AMID MKS SWF Prated themselves to the resolution IMdelli was awed by boa Mead. He would ask them to eitheiSer what woad be the e ff ect of that house carrying the =ltea the fate and pupa:tool the people of Africa. Mien of the subject ea which he felt • deeper hemeMehhohd his omelettes was this, that Ito effect would be he Sump Wither want bonus of barbarisms sad blood shed that unthKaaate People whom they were meleavouring Mum, frees the evils wader which they wen so long Mbeffrog ; Instead, therefore, el removing the squadron =Wight he endeavour to a tone for the member of amide; Mew white man had perpetrated on his With Mew creature. The evidence which had bus elm ea this subject before committees of both houses M Whiniest was mot conclusive. At this moment the ragaWe of Liberia was not only establishing peaceful nlrlfsas with the tribes about it, but was extending he own territories and routine out slavery. He believed that the district of Caps Samaras had been purchased, and they were is treaty for the purchase of Gaines, which had smently been • place for the establishment of the slave trade. He believed that the commissioner, who had been entrusted by his boa. friend the Secretary for Fereign Affairs with a mamba to the war tof the Sovereign of toe °blab would be present at the great annual fair of the people of that country, and would endeavour to persuade the Sovereign to negotiate with him for the establishment of of zial relations. The recent purchase which had been made of the Danish forte, he was sanguine enough to believe, vroa:d have a great effect in checking the slave trade. He believed, that if these objects were utablithee, the whole of the coast of North Africa would be rescued from the domination of the slaves, and they might trust to building up in that part of Africa e system of legiti. mate end fair commerce which was the best chance of ultimately improving the habits of the people, and suppres sing this asominable traffic, so long a curse to them. The more hazardous, and expensive, and difficult this traffic was made, the more the native chiefs were ready to enter into segegements to substitute legitimate commerce. He trusted Surgeon, that the negotiations would As carried on, with out which ell other means must necessarily be ineffectual. He could not promise the house or the country that by any ether means they weld check this detestable traffic. Having stated to the house what would be the effect of agreeing to the resolution of his hon. friend upon the slave trade, as carried on is Brazil and Cuba, and ou the fortunes of the African trade itself, he would now call the attention of the house to a subject which it was impossible to disregard—he meant the effect which the adoption of the resolution would have on the British colonies. The hon. member could I scarcely have chosen a more unfortunate time for pressing this resolution. His hon. friend proposed to enable the foreiga rivals of these colonies to °bum en unbounded supply of slave labour at the cheapest rata, and this at e time when the latest complaint, from the colonies was that it was difficult to obtain a supply of that labour I which was necessary for the cultivation of the estates. He must take it for granted that the house did not mean to allow the alaverrade te oe carried on by our own people, but if they were altogether to withdraw the from Africa only find that the slave trade 1 would •B •° h • • be earned on not by ritis capitalists, but by British captains and seamen. This house was too full of pride to permit any subject of the Queen to engage in such • trade. He took it that it was intended not to revive the slave trade under any diaguise ; but if the, allowed, under the name of emigration, Englis h attics to go to the coast of Africa, there to purchase slaves and to take the slaves to our colonies, they would be enacting the slave trade almost as directly as if they themselves allowed the slaves to be carried eases the Atlantic. If our colonies were to be judged from their own representafiors, there wet nothing which they urged on parliament with greater [ earnestness than that it was the duty of England to title euish this foreign slavery. This would be pi culled) , meal.. I innate also to the chance of returning prosperity. He believed that at this moment the West India colonies were exhibiting symptoms of revival whii.h he trusted woulu speedily lead to a cessation of that state of distress, which he deplored as much as any one. He held in his hand an account of the quantity of colonial sugar exported from the British West Indies within the last few years. He found 1 that in the years 1845 and 1846 the average amount of sugar 1 exported was 667,000 cwt. ; in 1847 and 1644 it was 1 689,000 cwt. From British Guiana in 1845 and 1846 it was 268,000 tons; in 1847 and 1848 it was 33,448 tons. From Trinidad there was an increase of 1,693, from Antigua of 2,234 tons. There did exist at tke present moment • well founded hope [ that the West Indian colonies were recovering from a state of distress, and that if we did not interrupt them by I such measures as these we should again see them prosperous. There was another dccument connected with this subject, which he was spathes to read to the house, it was an extract from the last annual report of Governor Barkly, which he believed had been laid on the table of the house: At the present moment, indeed, with enlaced wages and increased prices of priduce, sugar cutivation must again become remunera tive, and for • time at Mist the abandonment of estates be arrevted. While deeply depUring, therefore, the fate of those who have been ruined in the struggle, or who are left so irretrievably involved as to retain no prospeet of extrication, I will not allow myself to despair of geeing the agriculture of this testae clony placed on a muster basis than it was possible for it to rat on at any previous period of its history, when Its prosperity was founded either on slavery or on tiara protection. . . . It is, of course, Srapoaeible to fortel with any prec tint the future prospects of agrtmilural operations thus depen dent upon two eircumst mem, bath so subject to the Pigment's at • multitude of unbeaten and Independent contingencies as the cost of labour and the value of sugar. It seems to toe, however, ware.sion- Oslo to d rubt that sugar cc.; livation must in the long run be prottable le a country like this, where it is carried on wait less labour, and, therefore, more cheaply than in any other spot in the world. He need not fatigue the bouts by entering at any great length into this. lie was saved from the necessity of making observations which he should otherwise have felt It to be his duty to make by the statement of the hon. gentleman that he anticipated no other result from the motion which he had made than the complete abandon ment of all restrictions on the slave trade, and the revive' of the traffic as part of the regular commerce of the world In conclusion, he implored the house not to agree to the mo tion which would do no good, which would revive the slave trade, and deeply tarnish the character of the British name. Mr. ORANTLEY BERKELEY could not help stating, when one hon. gentleman alluded to the great good which might be done by the reduction of the size of the vessels, that he bad been in correspondence with a person connected with this question, and intimately connected with Africa, and he asked it it was not the fact that there were steam slavers employed on the African coast that set at defiance sailing vessels, and were capable of carrying from 1,400 to 2,000 men ? and if they did not ply their trade on the coast of Africa to • greater extent than ever ? As to another remark of the hon. member, when he proposed that rewards should be given to those who captured steam vessels, he would give a recommendation not to throw good money after bad. They had done too much already He should cordially support the motion. He saw that the African squadron, whilst it was totting this country an immense sum, was totally and inadequately Ineffective for the service over which it bad been placed, and under these circumstances he was certain that the house could do no wrong, morally or religiously, but would do good, the more they were guided by this motion. Captain PECHELL said that in 1836 it was impossible for our squadron to be efficient for want of power, bat alter that period there was a certain power; but the squadron [ might have been more efficient in regard to its condition, and. the Board of Admiralty bad never done justice to the noble lord (Palmerton) in keeping proper vessels for the coast of Africa. Although our efforts had been in some measure unsuccessful, yet we had per formed a very large amount of good in the number of slaves which we bad prevented being taken to the Spanish colonies and the empire of Brazil. Our endeavours should be cau tioned towards maintaining the squadron in a profer state. He believed it was in the power of the 4 overament to support the noble lord, the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, in hie efforts to suppress the slave trade, and hoping that they would, he would cordially give them his support against the motion. Mr. AMSTEY rose to address the house, with the view, he said, of bringing It back to the real question, from which the hon. and gallant officer who spoke last had deviated, in his anxiety to support the interest of • particular class. He (Mr. Anstey) would vote for the motion of the hon. member for Gateshead. He thought they should not place British officers in the difficulty of endeavouring, in the per formanos of fancied duties under treaties, to promote the p:-cification of Africa by making war against all the rest of the world. They had the authority of Lord Stowell, who said that a nation was not justified in assuming rights which did not belong to her, merely because she intenaed to apply them for lawful purposes, and that no great en d could be prosecuted by unrighteous means. On the 21st March, 1812, Lord Aberdeen, then Secretary of State for Fo reign Affairs, found himself comoellied to subject this country to the humiliation a doing justice to • merchant whose pro perty had been illegally taken under an instruction by an officer of our navy, Capt. Nurse. He wished he could add that that merchant was a Brazilian, or the subject only of • third rate power. He, on the contrary, was the subject of a first rate power, namely, of France. The officer was placed in this predicament, that if he did not obey his instructions, and enfant the embarkation of slaves, he would render himself liable to be tried for mutiny; and yet, upon that oc casion, Lord Aberdeen acted be defiance of the opinion of the law officers of the crown. He (Mr. Anctey) &eked the horse te consider whether they were to go on with measures which bad been proved to be faulty and fruitless, and which coat • million • year, or were they to adopt other measures, and if so, what immures Were they to repeal the act of parliament which had stimulated an increased trade in slaves—he meant the Sieger Duties Act? (Hear, hear.) Humanity might de mend it, but economy said no. Well, then, our squadron being admitted to be inoperative in the capture of were we to discontinue it ? Economy said yes, but hums sity asid no, and so the questi ne was constantly shifted ' I from economy to homoliilVe and from humanity back to . economy, like the pea under the thimble at the fair. Ile I thought it was possible to reconcile both considerations, and . if he were asked bow, he should answer by recommending the house to support the motion of the hon. member or Il Gateshead. Ile admitted that by doing so they would not have got rid of the difficulty of ooncideriog the question, but one thing they would have decided. They would have t determined to commit no more follies such as they had ma r slued in times past, no violations of international or =uni t lapel law, no more crime in their own persons to be punish. d I in the persons of their comparatively innocent subordinates. I (Hear, hear.) r Sir H. INGLIS said the question was what was to be dose with the blockading squadron, and be feared that in voting on that question, he sh ould not p into the game lobby with many with whom he bad long had the pleasure of acting. Il e fear ed new principles of humanity had tainted those fr om r he had expected better things, while he admitted w er h • - pleasure atel gratitude that what be called h, the gr eat p • ' 'tit ll plea of chriatiaa humanity had always found consist. -tue: pert from the noble lord at present at the head Majeste's government. (Hear, hear.) He regre tted her the I deviation which that noble lord had sanctioned in t e the duty on slave grown sugar. (Hear, h ear. ) H e e m o i t o t ta always be ready to vote for rescinding that elevation I be could not hope for much sunny in the nun of hanc e tn e ly se . H while we endeavoured to put down the slave trade wi th - headwalls indirectly encouraged it with the other I " a: wry diligult to keep pees with the Loo . and learned mom , bee salealadons as to the cent of maintaining the lel up. tllsg a i a. er N is a to bi setae b I t h e e . 8 II I ar t 0 11 111 a( a 1 81 8 :at this told . Rb 4 motion I b f u a n fp i o g o . k o d , s ea t t. ti l to e h t e lo he f effha year the e i B o to lh a u htah l h n eud i e d n io e ; : t ft o h poi entelinsa.witnesses were whole7 : a member disgrace rai commerce. ye eat " : ebeedt2ntulGt.6 would e thi e Wi yh o: "3 ( 0 1i 6 ar k"1.423 , 1 hea1 ea .) .: t • l re e ar t k th ra e nY m :e" re ve eo hairi lle oth c r t e b r atie i . ie c ir t° t i o t s t h i : . : cl i iiided y had l f r he they would not diminish the expense by even the smallest of these sums. Their utmost saying would bt 12 ships, ee they necessary for e t .w h pu ei y allth acknowledged e n iz e ox id t:h g h n e . On e nce ( he sac: (He ar , dopp,e, motion. riuu r es ulted:, en. h sf o e hw r rlaid .) neh pe l i nwe e uwaslo I d m e: sehn i afo t :gr t admi t ted nothing, d e.6 0 o:aren tb :gd. h t nat n e z,i t hey bqa ups d l c o nt ra ry, 3: i t .: h o t : t tt. hi been ene b eb r 1 : : E the eradiate Equipment speechesp etht Clause date the t tr ade , a d md e ebb been tn.h introduced,ed de n e i d ,wn,, t tt i tih r ri x r: e , pr r et n exertio n, ft f g e e In slavers taken was only 66 ; but in the next 10 yeses the ave end to the importation of slaves into Cube, where lumen, the annual importation was 40,000. (Hear.) Besides, uowaref g of 400 of the natured vessels were taken cline to the African env, the 'laves being thus saved all the honors of the middle presage. He trusted that hon. members had tanned with attention to the prayer of the pen peer rated on that evening by his noble !fiend at the head of the government from the liberated Africans residing at Sierra Leone. The petitioners expressed their gratitude at having been emancipated from slavery, amt prayed teat the squadron might not be withdrawn, lest the traffic in hurinn flesh meat be renewed. (neer, hear ) With the free traders in everything he c lien 110 pithy while they included their fellow men in tee me/el/us of articles in which trade should he free treat ,11 restriction, but he advise d those of his hon. Menet opposite wen were not tainted with that philosophy to remold. r their judgment before they sancttoned such a principle a it. e trade in human flesh. (Hear, hear) He remarked that the bon. member for Gateshead ie proposing tai, motion stated that he was acting in accordance with the re ports of two committees; but looking at the r. vets of the piece:ed ible of those committees, it would be am,, ieg, d it were not ludicrous, to note the number of votes carried by the outing vote of the chairman. They had beard of Mr. Heslasson's committee, and Mr. Horner's committee, and other Committees, which were so called from the name of the member who prtaidee over them, but this committee, he thought, wa a properly called Mr. Hutes entirety**, eeeause its report represented Mr. Hutt's individual opir inn. He hoped the squadron would continue to be erupt°. d in the work of huttmeey in which it was engag. d—a work in which it had, he belie,' d, done much good, and he bad no doubt would lo much more. Lord H. VANE felt compelled, after a full comederation of all the circumstances of the ca e, to vote ter tee motisn. The evidence which had been token on the subject proved that our dens to put down the slave trade by coercive means had failed. We had exercised certain powers seder a treaty with the Brazils, but it was to he r. pretteil that the treaties which gave us those extreme pewees read prov,d in operative. It was true that our interference hid been ems. sionally successful, but that was only while we hal the co operation of the country with whom we were nevem. to be acting. Mr. CARDWELL raid he entirely concurred wi.h other who had preceded him, in thinking that they were tow considering this great question—should they or should they not, ours and for all, make a surrender of the ploy to which they were at present attached. He hod watched the painstaking mil conscientious attention which tee tioher lord, who had just sat down, had given to the evidence on the committee, and he deep) regretted the conclusion to which it had brought him. lie should, ineeed, deeply de. plore, if the civilising influences of this empire were new withdrawn from Attica. ( Hear, hear.) The noble lord had expressed his belief that it was impassable for sit to menus oar efforts; and as a member of the committee he j)lr. Carewell) telt that her Mejesty's government would tad it difficult to continue these effete, if ctalcbsi , rs wen lightly come to by committees, if the Roue of { Commons encouraged their opponents in Brad tad Cuba, if friends in America and France wsre ouurat al, and it the public mind were ieneculated with the ue lief that mischief and not pad weed ensue from • continuance of the present state ot thiegs. (Hue hear.) At that period of the night (it was hall-oa t t.u) he would not trespass upon the attention of the hews soh any amount of detain, because, without mediae massy extract, he believed he could cony y some analysis of teat testimony given before the committee, upon which, altar ail. future p roceedings must be based; and he greed) deceived Monti! if • fair and omelets analysis woull not stand in contrast with • great deal which hat recently Nun !aid before the public, ant in etteking contrast with some of the speeches delivered in the course of the present debase. (lirar, hear.) The house had been tole that the whole of tee operations of the squadron had been futile. Gt. at ei.tfinh ties must doubtless be encountered in the ening of the struggle ; but, if by " futile " was meant alio the squadron had done little or no good, end if he (Hr. (se-dwell) snowed that repression had actually taken place through ire instrumentelity, then that assertion would be negetind. If he showed by the evidence of great navel authoreits that if the presea.t effort to suppress the slave trade were abate darned, that trade would greatly increase. then he would cut from under them the ground upon *Melt they stool, and satisfactorily show that the recommendations of the committee were not entitled to the concurrence of the house. It was said that complete repression could not now he effected al rag a lengthened of coast He war willing to admit th.t it could not be completely effected ver, b w y ith wa a dch ma it ri pi ne ig g h u t a b. r d uc e li ars p T ua h h e t r d e — w t e h r e e o t n w o o w ar t n h t e e le h o o w tim e influence sat trade, and the other was the i. flume produced by the introduction of the Christian religion. (Cheerio Both infer-noes were now at work under the protection ot the British squadron, and the results, of whic futu r e member gave many parti ulars, promised highly forsuccess. Mr. Card ell followed up his details which several anecdotes of the despesate atrocities committed by slave.deslers and pirates en the African coos, and concluded by fully admitting that it there was no probability, in a course of }care of en impression being made on the slave trade, and piracy being put down, that the case of those o; piing the Kind• run would be strengthened; but, as a member ot the committee, which had inserted in its report enothice about the propriety of continuing the treaties, be could not take the responsibility of consenting to the removal of the equadr. n. For a member ot th it committee, or of he l ey w ey sh o eo u re s d , b u tli paralyse Io.: • more teh hands effi cie n t ly ot he r o o of to sup press pv. countries, thetet believed trade,ave tit was • step of responsibility which any tndividual having a due sense of the magnitude of these ev il s, e nd thee tretaa honor of this iniquity, ought, as a prudent and cautious min. most careful:) , to sword. (Hear, hear.) • •a Coptain PELHAM row l imiest loud cries of " Pine . I with which he was continually interrupted in the cum of his 'peeve He denied that the officers of the navy had se meted that toe squadron had wholly failed in its object. or that nothing more could be done. As a matter of warm? this motion would prove a perfect delusion. It would 00 only be injurious to the character of the country, to the ere interests of the Laval service, and to the commercial interests of the c ninny, hut it would also very materially increase Lei honors et the slave trade, and disappoint those who were not adoocates for giving up the present efforts ; end the day e 5 if not far distant when the people of this country 1,10114, the decision which so many hon. members were now dis e peed to come to. If they withdrew their tquadron from th nwt of Africa it would not be followed by any dissinutian of L. horrors of the middle pause. On the contr.ry, there wole sata,i be an lir:reseed mortality amongst the slaves, becatise a impetus would be given to slave-grown product, deep disgrace would he inflicted, in the face of the world. e , ; the naval power of England cad an the gr eatee,s ot th country keel( (Loud cries of "Divide, divide Col. ") THOSIPSON said that free trade had no thted le ee free oow wo p f ri t hf h t su r e it a tt a heu d c ir s s e; ci d u 'au t m :d er :E u p e t : ii o r"g io t i t it fy el : oa n e f t : n and : s a ya t tihh t h t i m ey n a : tw t n a ng t h o oo e uu p del o d d sm ibl l e y iai ( uh i pao—alec commu l nity i ra l i t at h iu m on g e g i u r thh ;il t n ri b i l l t e ; ati c on i' He was a'raid that there was • &tire and •20= lusting "---to use the expression of one of their old see the sinews and limbs of the Africans empli red to able industry throughout America, and it may be torte . 1. 7 a... . lush commerce taking its share in those pr fits. be and a laugh.) lied they not seen an eminent literary rector, once an honour to the country, openly declaritle t hat the beneficent whip would be the only thing to .6,5 n sindolent negro and the Irishman. (. Hear. beef . .. e r e laughter.) Would this principle work If it were a pp all men who hod much to lose. chr,i3Luitshefeofn:rathLhiseoitionn.m.meaTthdbeensrop.ohikederheaaotraidonsier:ries, ttrazinhee:;n7lo7" drew, when en relieved tt', war a o ti en L . A n D l S e T v O tac el ta le tio rose n adjourned, and that it would that w t h a 'La k eh n ro g eui h t us e h e c : ai o s fn i h: t po o h e u t d t eil et :v t : e o h y t e e o w , f I ca . n u t " t ional i t l ata g td h l'°:e t h e sh o aenobi t 'udde h i lele n d e :bnh t t h al7t n o :e u rl °l is bones Eau t • na • ' :h u e of t h h i e s g h ro on u . n f a r question able , . nuts lle i e d tho r a n:ittuv a elo l tf i nea d ca. tntt any dure fu that thisi squadron de g re e. t d h r o an t on motionvt from ote w i shkow" h a: e t o'n boast b bli nk hear) ngt okur of it :I II IhAcee:;mr:Wai on which i :01111 s u p tie lj a i ie n w h x oe w removal au h i t li r t i e . e L h na it rf roo w .r : f . e l e :hedteeahi wh i lst preliminary a rhe d iscussio n imee object t h ew fordcn of ea l oar Y h th. fg amb i a s :: bar eh h i oeorneni properl entire friend's ro t e s f fi ireiwo:oii.tt;:inlyitnt7E?ut!iter:;n:actuftuoT,,;:ii