The Express. — London, England, 1855-05-04 00:00:00

i IMPERIAL, P. SOUSE OF LORDS.—TamtspoT, MAT S. The Loan Cithocraieok took his seat at the mid hear. BANK IN THB INDIAN ABUT, as. The Bost el ILLINBOBOUGH said he had given nodes of seme emestices whisk he wished to put to the ashes teed the Wes Stsistor. The first related to the pad- Asa of the AIM et the Mimi may. He seer tint a momeenadem had bees issued area the Horse Owls Wh ail "ablest. dated the 26th Agee. He Afraid be Ind 111 may sersagememt Mehl bll adopted that would be MYM to the officers of Via' troy. They had always lip courtesy, is this country, the nese rank as they WWI held had they been entitled to it; sad it mold Se he agreeable to them to hold by right that whftb theerlied hitherto esly held W courtesy. Bat he WSW to smierateed whether this memorandum Waled ably te their position is society. If so, it was ban rid more properly from the elks et the Cr a ldarshal, or from the Load Chantherlein's depsitneset, rather than from the Wareeffies, with which it ' had seeing te do. Ho had wersiMr_geseties to pae, wee eke of some tonpornigh By Ohio stenuteaslum from she 1101•• Guards, dated SOO hp" it wee beim* is seefeenity with the sides is owed for regehlieg the ealletaiest of remain that the IMO booty should be gins to those between It sad Si pan of age Niyshtt ter two years, as woe gins lier the WNW period oteeYsimkaa Was it Mbe usdeollesi that eh wee the catabliehment of a priaMple—that the hong glees te the rasa who enlisted fee the Misr mend was to remain m at present, and that the bounty give. to those between 24 36 who enlisted for two years only, was to be raised t a t s t level, that, in short, there was to be no &Erma between the bounty for the longer and the shorter period ? If such were the intention, he fend the result would be that all persons desirous of enlisting would enlist for the 'boner period ; because, at the tensisattost of that period, they could sgain enlist, with the enteinty of reedy. isg a farther bounty. (Hear, bear.) More nu that : the mars who enlisted for the longer period was more likely to settle dewn to his work and Deegan a bettor *oldie?, than the man who only engaged in the military service for a couple of years. Therefore, it would be b. tier to hold out, In preference, indaenseets which would lead men to statist for the loather period. Bet, it was quite certain, if the booty were the easse,that they would enlist for %Mebane,. These weight, with that order, to have been a declare hearty than that now gives would be ca s tri be men enlisting for a longer period. Be the lord had made a mistake similar to that whisk Iss=se iajerioas to the militia—that of see t mosey. The noble lord wee justiled sire4aneffencireelar inferred to; at the same time every ass mast *Kg** , the ceasequeeoes to which It would lead. Hie ism, inseemelea woo, teat it bond of offering the limited sera of Ids. fee re-attesratioa for longer service, be had used • sonsehat higher sum, in all probability he meshl Imo esstmanded a sufficient num'ser of men for the lesser peeked. lie was iitforesed that steps had been taken he 'Bogies dm services of 1,000 navvies, for the purpose of medneg is the trenches, and that these navvies were to be =coder a servers, who was to be granted a salary of a year That was a salary equal, *Min 781., to the eater? of a lisateaant general or a m ijor misers' is her Ma jesty • service , and superior by about 2001. to the salaries of all the tens officers who were attached to the Quarter master General's department at bead-quareses. He goo. beaded that these navvies, if engaged, odd have es".. mated to serve for a pay not very far superior ille diet doe sappers sad miners, who would be engaged be Ma DM work; and it was a matter of very mines sesillmailin whether men employed in the sane duty, sad nosed to the same labours and the same danger., should be paid at very different rates. (Hear, hear.) lie wilted to know, if it were intended to form a corps of this deuription, whether It was to be a military or civil corps. He could hardly imagine that it would he of a civil character, becalm it was to be employed under fire, and in conjunction with her Ma jesty's troops. If it was to be a military corps, he wished to know what new appointment was to be given to the gen tleman who was to be rewarded with a pay surpassing that of all the oars la the Quartermaster General's depaot- Joint ; also what relation there would be between this body of 1,000 mita and the sappers and miners, what authority was to be given to the person commanding them, sad under what g 1 authority the men were to serve ? Lord PANHURB, with reference to the first questiew, SS the subject of Indian officers, might state, is the int place, that the memorandum referred to went no further in its spirit than it did in the letter, to confer on those officers • suitable position, which had hitherto bees son. aided to them by courtesy. bet upon which there had been previously some doubt. No one could rejoice more than he did at any mark of foveae which was bestowed on the *Boers of the Indian envies ; and no one was more willing at any time to mom in the removal of distinctions which might be thought to detract from the efficiency ef that b'dy. They had during a long period been engaged in a Series of arduous struggles throughoat the vast territor in which the Indian army was employed. They bid minimised the integrity of those territories, and had assisted by their courageous conduct in upholding and extending the donnin of this cottony in that remote region. Bat, is saying that, he u.ight take the opportu nity of adding that it was his opinion, es well as teat of a great many others, that the services and distinction of the lodise oßctre had been somewhat unfairly used to put in the background the services and distinction of the officers of the Qesen's service. The opportunities which the former had bad of learning the art of war practically in India bad outably gives them great advantages; but he held that these advastages ought not to entitle them to more than fair coasideration. In the Queens army there were nom hen of oaken who bad nut yet had an opportunity of seeing any service, or of carrying oat in practice that mili tary education which they had received in theory. If Indian officers had already made their way to military die. *notion, he could sot an why the officers of the Queen's service should not have the opportunity Riven them ef pin. beg their way to similar distinction Re had even sees it stated that the odors of the British service were divided into two dosses—'• the initiated," who were too old to do anytbiag; and "the know•nothings," who were too young to know anything. (Laughter.) net was not a fair mode of bringing oat the proper merits of the army. He held the opinion that they oug t to avail themselves of those services which were best calculated to advance the in. tweets of the country, and that there was so reaeos why every well educated officer should not have the opportunity of gaining distinction. He was not narrow misded enough to think that say distinction ought to be mode in the maw tips of Atom from this service or the other, and he hoped le me the day when all those distinctom would be dose away with. (Hear, hear.) But the noble earl must know that there were difficulties in this, as there were in all natters of detail and reform; and he mast know that them reforms required to be affected slowly, is or.irr to be anted surely. The disposition of the goverment I. India In the matt. r was 'efficiently evinced by the appointment to the nice of ociannander-in•chief in India of an odor of the Bast India Company's service. The noble earl had alluded to the staff appointments in India. He was given to understand that the circumstance referred to wee more the result of accident than anything else. It happened in this way. The staff appointments in India wen so summates, and were filled by the officers of the ladies army so very much to the detriment of the perform. eats of regimental duties la the "nay, that it was found :d e = the to roan some of time eaters to regimental duty, places So vacated with einem from the Inglish away. The qpines as to the booty paid to re mote had been bromine wider his anodes by the Coo mender.bi-Chief, who Ind "eked whether be Wended to oneesioe the seas be dm the ems 'MOO under the act lately penal as wee gall Mabee Wised osier the ant of 1847. After modiestag the eseedes—takiug Into view that the men NOW wader the eat of 1847 were enlisted at the age of 1 end IPSO Delisted he to or *lens pers, especially in Os end tee cavalry—that they e it=i had the opportunity of an addition to their pay, and that they had also no opertseity, at the end of their first eagagenest, ef ondhlies he awned period—takieg alai late eos•Meraties tees sou of these Oneness would estrus to the men Mimed at the age ef twenty. tear, who were only serving he two, or at the unmet fee term. fusee— he thought that, is order te get sees el the ap ef It to 35 roes, wham Obits and stoup le Wen sespiseede isemed, who were secriesuily takes from the labor la which they were employed, and she, if set well.drObel soldiers, were at all events ea& neatly string nee, end men likely to made good 'Wien— be thought that they aught not to give sash men a lower man liessey then they gave to the boy of 18. Bat aces ef these 'moonset', ea tee 'kohl* earl was perfeetla ........ dednits or iavarlable—they might be hoe time to time ; and if he found that their weektag was such as to mote diffraltv, or to leases the eaketmeat of youths resraited from 18 upwards, he would thee take into masideraties whether he should lot alter the rate of begat,. With regard to the general Woos of booty, be perfectly agreed with the noble out This would be a necessary step, in order to Olen an lanneweed number at recruits; and very probably before long be might haw to promo to their lords , ips to increase the booty, in Grebe to norms the Bushels of the away Butit woo naturally his wish, I. these times of difficulty sod financial pressure, sot to opened more than was actually necessary for the perms. It wee perfectly comet that a seeps of navvies was to be employed, ass for the purpose of eroding la the oohs% is the noble sari supposed, but to eaevyes the work of the army which wee essay miff:lined by the moms and misers, and Is On* that body bad bees efteged very mob to the prejediee of their beelth. Yet weft of this deseription mast be dose; Gael le ceder to get it peifeemed, sad at the same time to carry out the view 'whisk he in mom with the noble earl estertalsed, M keeping se men la the ranks ef the may se pea. Ale, It had e.rmWty seemed to bin the the best so ne wend be to &beak IOW" o_snips a Andy of the.. navvies, who were iessil, ~weed mes, gad she, being mat eat to the Orliok _weell be eimPleywf hi me awry' ne might be regelrs d of them wide the Asp gen Hassel, sad is host al the army who the army leek VW field. He cis Ss son had twee deed he the salary of the .genet Beat of this ore; see had any defines NM NI yet bees heed me the psymeat ef the saes. Be the sone led mei be well swan that It wee any isapendlie to open that less went woe hem 'IA IND @Mbar hi 04 eser "(labeling'. er is no of emessistesdests 61 W°Glire 1 " nigh Illffillintee wee time Ono genelles gad slime et be! onise. Me'shoeffill esehaveur le Osten peeper ea ll :P l a r the lowest monis *Old IA Issirt to the edegdan *1 ma sumillugessuritiallabe 'missed the the basses whisk = wens,rth es gi WM a whisk be soil sat bet the mania at • bleier ei t: l eVvelleed the army. The MOB earth seder the riemmaae Jean; disk sposellese would the mes heeled Ye w bteg is her well as those whim tiny en sueoriatesded. TION OF THE GUARDS. The Mamie ALISBUILY, is moms. et a modes premised, Om, idled sustain to the smthe 1a whisk the Meth datathmethe Of the Guards had bees embarked kith. Alas. Os a former condos the Mildew of Wd het' gives nab an answer as showed that he was a mere then fa his idles; for be had laid all the blame es tie Qsarter• sucesothaeraL TM minatry had a right to knew some *the mere of the eiressitagos. The fast was, though theerteemetetheemoral ordered the removal ref the Weep he UM pees ef embarkation he bed so war to sie make the sessmary previsions wiikest s leithe We. Lers.llll War. 44. A1IMIIRE obeern hl d that with mtA dee most et Mee" fermerl Secretary et M for War and the N y the inths took the pleasure of MO H e elene se *the regissests labia should go abroad, sod afterwards it with the Commodes. in•Citief to mettle with the ae to the tune. place, and mason et Musk Now, however. the gweYeeweediierest The Illemetary for War signided to. the and that UMW ter so many troops would be meshed ea • moan doh sad Moshe informed the Commune-is-OM, In the proem% ease the Transport Baud had reported 71st the Alma would be ready to receive 1,42 S Veep; ma it wee decided that instead of maw est the them& in d.ffergat ves.ale they Amid be put es bowl a sink le ship. The Guar ds amesseed hi erember to about 1000 men, +birth left a margin lobes. 410 ether Weep to be embarked in the Alma. The Alma bed begs moseyed sad posed at Liverpool, and 420 men. pogo phis, demobeasthe d the 18th, the 60th, and the 71st rest meths. were psis es heard her at that port. She then came resod a Pernmesth to take in the (Muds ; but the survey lag _Ansa se th s letter plan preseason! her oily St to carry LON edam. He ((Lied Passisee) believed that this dth enema bed mien bim the Mt that the Unwed ear -1 more bed misslsted es a arises ember @Elbe meet bele, always apes desk, whereas then at Perigees* had set lame se. Is sesenuestie of the eirond near% Downer, the dotheloasses shady as board ware dimesMillied, and were thethed We the Wraith of the genie s. where they were farther emigre. This had se dose* led to some "F artrin d nelay. The Guards arrived at Portsmouth at half. past 11, and the anbarkatin did not onamesse astil about 4 o'clock. It had been stated that von of thi s t i tUels of the troops who were disembarked had bees es to the Cries; but, from very minute imiehise, be meld Sod that no althebeelide had bees so taken es is the Alma, with the eumplissof • portmanteau belonging to am Wiser, sad • writing deft beloagiog to another ; sad he wagoning that if the wroth bad been at the smallest pains to look attar their , both these valuable articles would ban bees ranged ism she Alma. The baggege belonging to the Goethe, whisk, it was alleged, bad - bees left babied, thi est Mug to the troops embarasd, bet it sessisted se elethetheethivil to ha despatched to the regiments already la the Odom • requisitioa bad Men made to the Tresepost Ind Is livride for the eonveyance of then stress, and diesethme bad bee. gives that they should be shipped es tbe Alma. The admiral superinteudeate however, heibillermed him that se tae article had ben rejoined Meath, Alen which had been brought for shipment. Hs (the meth lord) had not yet quite cleared up this peist, sad wear make still farther iniairies. He could osly add that loth se esserded the accommodation of the others and die mm, be had received information to the effect that no one bad ever experienced more comfort on board a transport, and that the health of both . Man and men had never bees less a sabjeet of anxiety. With respect to the quad= of arms, be found that be bad been in error in what he had stated on the previous occasion. It had been his impressive that every regiment and every detachment sent from this errantry had the Mint& rifle in their possession. The feet was that all the troops which were embarked, whether Is =so or is detachment., were famished with the rile ea far as was possible. Where that was sot raelholl6 the mem took with them the old smooth-ben OEMS mew oast they might continue their exercises while es bred, Miami their arrival at C nistantinople, the Mini 4 was NNW NM to them from a sing kept at that place. From the iethelgthiess whirrs he had made, the Quartermaster.' Gomml egillithethi to be abstheel leis di With If any easheles bad takes plan it bed seems Mole teem the • of opines which bad emend betwees ammo at Liverpool and Portasiostb es to the the magi for the reception of troop; and if any error Messeriamitted, it nomad to him to have bees ea the Ogle dip. (Hear, beer.) JURISDICTION OF THE STANNARY COURT AMENDMENT BILL. The amendments on air bill were reported. LOAN BILL. Lord STANLEY moved that this bill be read a second time. After same remarks from Lird RAYENSWORTH, The bill wee rind a second time. THE VIENNA CONFERENCES. • The Berl of CLARENDON then rose and said—Before your lordships adjourn I wish to take this opportunity to apologise to my noble friend opposite for having quitted the house the other night, which gave same to some remarks oa his part, with which I haw se felt to lad, bemuse it is my business to be here to answer any gaieties@ connected with the depart- ment over which I have the honour to preside. I gaittod the hoses on that occasion because there was a great deal of Meioses at the Foreign-office waiting my return, sad besasos I thought the noble marquis behind me (the Mar quis of Lansdowne) had stated that the government would Yoe we time in riving to the house the information it might eogniee. Bet I hope your lordships will not be under the allelealee impression that the government have any desire 110 withheld that information. For my own part, I hope I may soy that I have never shown myself unwilling to Mower any question or afford any information which it was be Mig power to give; bat I consider it a duty, particularly bommbont as NMI at the pretest moment of intense nstioaal moiety, to be inithestly informed with regard to passing mists. Nevertheless, I have so often experienced your Imitate' indelenes in this house net to feel mire that even eirst pew load** would not wish me to divulge anything WM* wail be ellateary to the public interests and lajeri. lie to the pada service. Asa proof of the spirit in which dm at Vienna were carried on, and the desire dime sad English representatives to do nothing all limthilailkall either the honour or the dignity of Russia, I IMMIIIMS the awe evening, in soarer to a question of IN OMB MANIA apposite, that the Russia. plaipoten- Mike Imil Men lowlesi themselves to take the initiative, Ma 10 make a pepped by which they thought there could bed he earned out the principle to which they had given disk crest. The Russia* representatives achnowledged— liberiestd not help acknowl,dgieg—the spirit is which this .... was made ; but, somewhat to the surprise of their , said they were altogether without instructions, end it would be neemeary to refer to St. Petersburg. The time necessary was given. In the meanwhile we de. dined to alter the order in which the beim of the media loos bid originally Maid, or to take say dieemseise an the lbw* psi,. Wadi mime settlement bed hem GSM to with regard to that to whisk we attached the greecest haport thee, sendy, beg to mush Turkey to the Earopeen eye- Ism. When theasakethee was agaia wised to restive the wriursit thus had some hem St. Petersburg, the Medan plothelenlikries nines seed that they had no mew shalom to make, and the allied pleoipetestba a than orbwitisd to them a @shuns whisk I think Numb might, eldibeat my hart to bee digsitr, but very meth se her beam as • first-rate pewee, have accepted, it *he hod beets Wined to peeve to the mold that her psliey wee as poet -110 mobs bad always maimed, mod that she was papered 11 MOM the umemisees aii Bane by geing a 'wean Mathias doles sod semis= ai~my which she am to have sotwledned. The plomipetedderies of oohed 48 bears to messider thatzl is e s ed at the semi of thee time they gave sa athetholo aft, se Ml= Sli iiimgmber proposal that woe forward by the illedipieeerthey for Fries, send to by us, to emend, Om the Meek Sea all mesh of war, mil essikeing M Meek Sea th e simply fee essimievaisi wpm. The smilmeness were then easpended. They were net estriliy Miss or They were suspended, and me time fen eambee filleilind _was named. Lord John Russell left Vienna em Mm e Ll e l „ha rd of lest mow h. After he hod gem. Lord 1 sad M. Demme do Lthe wore ta llith ea the pert et the Rosales pkoipeloodary. Id se another easfereatee. is elan a reasive easema grevosittoo from the Swiss M. Maga de Limp sad Lord W wood to Mend thithemthrenee. We have the terms Oho proposal whisk was mode by the Zossian pithiest/Whey. We have set yet the passel that seeming the dbenedea that has lathe *co i tal we know eke aomegh is win a agree with the dila plemiposethiefissorbe wen ream= that the peo peek Mao Illmidasemieseneat were wet of a thanator to !ll.the dentewidth all the slims bad in view. This ISM of stein ; and Ima oaly add that a sae we ecarthiakthall net object to this thotepose e r bsime thil th ildth WOW that there is thythlog of a reel and obarentee to be proposed, w yet we dread likthat their meeting again itimot amy spe obleth would give sa modems media that we,.. Wales men fore M ow whew they wen nth he* ellnelbe Se my that the petnesis shall he laid before the been without delay. and your lo=r es ill LA is those pianism& olie a record el the lize ol t ie list a melt of die thweeMens that =ore empoosel by wish member of the think thee pm Mobile um mot emiwithe that del I bath Meth bed the Wane to Male to yen to *Mir miklemsey or =vo—Ormiindee I mean as to what hoe lath —Om as Me Ms hems your kraalle of the anneen list /Maria will take. (Moen.) It is es het potholer point that I ask leave to sake that rudest mores to whisk I alloded, and whisk your Wafts have maim lo me is. My maws the thth at the mimdmies of irthers—when th ey were Nopeed—Oeued Reel teloth sod that the uses of arriving at pees were Me , sad that it woad be the spiel deity of Amide to eadeaveor to pe ads s* 'those mem to the died ernes ; lad them are at this merest pope* preinnwea .of DIRBY•-i NS not deeirtas say nacre than .argz..,.... that tin noble earl should Maslen litsfaaflink7 say tor. peas i bin at the mama i p . be -1* 7 a :t i t itatiumair: so g esen doi 4 bes__ pp suaddreisor mehee ass mir ens• feebtedly Wile s glaseralls takeeliesa le MS Mai GS the pareet peados of aloe, it will be simony to have Ware es the pews tartish the *obs lord bas alluded. tfaieshelidly then papers will throw ormaiderable light, all nay on the past, bat on what is of mare ispletaaelo, the have prospects of the caantry. But I must say, though 1 concur with the noble mil that the prospect of obtaining • site and honourable pease ought not to be premeturely diseumed, that I bear almost with regret that alter the intent to which the allied powers ta b iie have iin extent gaits to the utmost verge of won. slug it limiting their demands upon Russia to the Omen degree , and those propositions having bees a‘ested, sod no seater propositions, or at lest we any resseeable counter propositions, made on the put a *ado, I arAuot but hear with some regret that u arid fresh diestissiona are still is ail = I cannot but fear that they have no Pl udr is tet but that of wasting tiara. The propo sition, dam been made by the allied powers to lies& @tense now beyond those that ought to have been made. leads' at the circenistanoes. I as afraid amen. eine lave bees wade to Ripen which, if they bad bees spied, would lime rendered unless, and almost weave Wm melees, the groat ea meditate of blood and sm ears Nat boa been natured. And I must say 1 bops the Anstrisn geveranient is in earnest is endeavouring to pro , dare a sate sad :honourable pima. I hope the ASIMiII government is in earnest is fulfilling thins sagsgammes towards the allies, in the event of pease not hang Goiania, sad which she has held forth for the last two years, the hope of "Maio' into which engagement I am afraid has seat this esastry and our allies much of valuable time and mask et the advaatages that might bare been neared. We are sow s the second year et the war, sad during the whole of that time we have bees mid that although it was quite true that her Majesty's late government and her Majesty's preseat goverument had ohms to the hope of peace longer than circumstances jus hied, yet they had one great advantage, that, by their for bearance, by their patience, by , their long suffering, by their hoping .gaioet hope, they bad at all events seemed the ac tive and energetic ao-opseatim Si Austria and Prussia MI W support of the town muse. Two years have now passed, bet, seserdies to the sable earl's statement, what at the amass mamas Is the wroperatioa for whim our vigour la the marmite was altogether checked, and waiting fir which co-operation we were led into delays and a dilatory worse of conduct which have aggravated the calamities of war 1 Why, at this moment, Prussia, excladed alto (ether from the conierences, stands in a position of hardly doubtful hostility. Prussia is at this moment, if sot in alliance with Russia, opposed to the policy of the Western Powers ; but Austria, by tarrying in the negotia doss, is carrying oa, I am afraid, the same system of delay with the same injurious consequences that have resulted by the perpetual procrastination and delay which she bas already occasioned. We are now in the Duane cr the second ounpaigo, and it is a matter of the utmost importance, it is the ground-work and basis of all our future operations, that we should know precisely in what position we stand to Auc.ria. It mutt bare the greatest lot:Wanes on the course of our arms, on the plans of tee campaign, and all our mill wry operations. It omit have the greatest effect to know whether we are to reckon on the hostility, the neutrality, or the cordial military co-operation of • power to important as Austria, and every day which passes without coming to that hill and distinct understanding with Austria, without knowing where we are drifting, every day and every hour that passes aggravates our difficulties, increases enormously our esp. uses and our tisk, and gives • proportionate advantage to the common enemy. 11.-w although I do not press the noble earl for any statement that he may consider detrimental to the public service, I cannot hear the statement he his made to-night, leaving all the important negotiations with Austria in just the same state of hesitation and uncertainty in which they have been for so long a time, without expressiog the regret I feel at so unsatisfactory a statement from a British minister, and that we are in as unsatisfactory a position se if we were in aeave hostility with Austria. I trust that the noble earl and her Majesty . * government will take care that, even if we are deprived of the advantage of knowing what the views and policy of Austria are, we shall not intermit the meet vigor ous exertions in t he prosecution of the war, and that we shall not suffer ourselves to be Us victims of procrastina tion induced by false hopes and illusory negotiations. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE agreed with the noble earl that It would be most desirable, wire it in the power of government at this moment to give the information which the noble earl was "micas to obtain with regard to the in tentions of Austria. He biped and trusted it would be soon. After what had fallen trona the noble earl he could not allow it to be supposed on the part of her Majesty's government, or on the part of those who had supported her Majesty's government is the coals* of this war ' that is eonsequence of the desire which they naturally felt, and the noble earl himself bad proclaimed it to be their duty to secure the co-operation of Anse tris, that they had Men seduced by say Itog p r e obtaining that co-operation to delay in the least those military preparations which were essential to the ma duet of the war. Undoubtedly no expedient had beat left unrovided for with regard to the great continental pewees to bring them to a distinct understanding as to co-operatic& and the ezteet of the croperation which this country might aspect from them and which it bad a right to eapect from them. But daring all this time, even up to the last few weeks, during the negotiations at Vienna, sot a day hal been lost in furthering those means and advancing those efforts which might bring the war to a comelasket. Ile echoed back the sentiment of the noble lord, that a moment should be lost towards securing the meat of an object so much to be desired as that of a European peace, end her Majesty's government to the last moment take the most active measures to mesa that pease. TM noble earl opposite (the Earl of Derby) had eampleg the most material part of the statement of the Bads Mead the Stmostary of Skate foe Foreign Affairs, sad the gmerameall woad take active 'measures for amertakaag mad on 11161fillift what was the real state of the stegotiatiews. TM Beil et 111A1.11E6BURY said that having maimed ease time aim M make some strong observaticas ea the wake %ad', esesideratien, he would net make my gem► tel remark" ea what had been said by the noble lord apps its. He til=tht there was some diaallpilney . between the 1111teMat • by the noble lord that evening and that wash he had made about a melt ago. He understood that her Majesty'. government and the French government, sap mead by the governments of Austria and Turkey, had peetiesed to Russia negotiations with reference to the rodeo dm of the Beet is the Black Bea. There was, he wader stood, another pispetities. but the noble lord had that evening amiald himself ha that which he had mentiesed. The Earl of CLARENDON said that was • mistake. That proposition had lima rejected, ea wells' sachet plea, which would make the Black flea a antral see. (Rest.) The Earl of lIALMSBBURT—That the Int alterna tive was, that the Rumiaa fleet is the Bask Sea should be The Berl of CLARENDON—Tea. The lest N MALMESBURY—TMs it appeased that Rama bed a &aka Of two alternatives, sad tamed them both. With soma to the papers whisk the noble lord had lay upon the table, he mast impasse a hops that rivet: to set maim himself to the protosals whisk had ham draws up; sad be hoped that as that wee the ease, sad as he leased from ea ezpreesion whisk fell from the aside laarasie opposite, that other important papas were be enitemes, them papers would be included in the det whisk tae lordships woeld receive. For assay a yeas their Mehhip had had so knowledge or de= papaw as this most impeetaat sagest They had a lasge messat of ishomeden hem the gables pamte, awl they Ad asyseeed. nos Mead asemally, Mae way pebble perm Ameagd them ewe ammo veirt i a lle rrl hem the table kill Me Secretary a State for ffeitelon Affairs, whisk of mares had not Mad from the Feleign sigh bat whale doubtless appeared I. some Maga sows ppm, and were re-published her There was mae papa which was given, which was as Wier pretaam a the tom poism, or rather if the third pint, whisk was me that might be argued apes se later. prated in different ways, 111100TdUag to theineesaatesad ttawa of different parties. The paper to whisk he alteded was a ekes slatement lima the matter, sad en&hed MO W& We e view el that third plat. Aid hal ohmage Awed what was is many ropiness a similar laisepeantlem ea the of the Minister of Foreign Affairs is Freaseel Ile orßari of Malmesberp) thought that the noble bed add se mash as poslble to the prowls those dlpie male demnsfatA whisk might have peeled between WM the Onset if Russia, which would be • great seeMMllles le that and the ether Mw of pasilament, la milinaleadieg and taking a "afoot view Si the protocols, whisk by Mem selves would probably be somewhat chasm The Earl of CLARENDON said that if any papers or fasts had lima attributed to him he hoped they were cot rest. Be wawa WWI *IMO SNOB to esybody, and saver heard Wade bele, published. (Laughter.) With regard to the Owellmeaces of Vienna. he believed that their dims"- ISOM had bean meditated with the strieteet sewreey, sad that isiftldna had been allowed to trust*, ' • sad kid meson maks palmate' to be a record a the pro endings et that august body. He mild not my at that reemoot what papers would be laid epos the beam in addi tion to the proms& ; but myth*/ that might be neeeseary to amides" them protocols should, of coarse, be gives to A Ithole kalehips- Thebes, adjourned at 26 mantes pest 7. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Tauzsan, MAT 3. The BP3IIIII tech the Weak at 4 (Meek. PRIVATE BIIBINIIBB. Tams Iticaurse.—Daadee cad Perth sad Aberdees 1 o ßtlway Bill ; DlT a p t :t ai e m ad Carlisle litilway Bill; sad MITROPOLIS LOCAL MANAGIII.RICT BILE Tim Iberia of Liman swami at Ow bar op present a =km tar Clarporablatal loss‘ro. praying tirr the al dame if goatordas Or dim Nam mod privileges. ►Y 4, 1 COlllUTTE rtipa tanker of the BRA PORTS. First Lord of the Admiralty, limed to blookade the ports , whoa the blockade would Re O. WOOD said it was the intention of the government slatlidg as seams bleekade of the Battle sad Wbst• pad to make it effacmal from Me fist. The wear IMO sad bad received toildm sled would pro nod ho bloskada the ports manta as the mole of Cho is per thei to - do es. (Hest, hear.) CRIMEAN DESPATCHES. Mr. WHITESIDE asked the Pint Lord of the Admi ralty, whether. due the layiag dome of the Telegraph, soy deapen► bad bees resolved by the goverment hoot the Crimea by telegraph, Hl* bad Betimes oesuatutieand to Om !midis ? - - air C. WOOD raid Do hoped the house would dully un derstand that with regard to the egostataaleatiaos made to the government either by the admiral or general in the Crimes, they oust for the pod of the public service exer cise the meet ocusplete theoretics es to what intelligence _ _ they would smelly to the pablie—(be.r)—for it was clear they might melte intelligenee which it .odd be evidently improper te etinntenicate. (Hear.) In eansequenee of the nusseeese goestiens which had been asked on this subject, be wished it to be distinctly sadeestood by the hawse that the government felt it to be their duty tOrmerve such in telligenos as they thought eight to be reserved ; and that they wield, as be had stated the other night, communicate every information of interest which it was cot desirable should be retained in the bands of the government. It wee true that a telegraphic despatch bad been received which had not been communicated to the public, bet it merely asked a question of the movement of some 'easels. Bat in point of fact, the substance and purport of every telegraphic despatch bad been communicated by the government in the swoon given in that home. (Hear.) Mr. ROEBUCK said that on that day week he put a question to the First Lord of the Tremary, and the noble, lord told him is reply that he had sent out orders to Lord Raglan to make daily reports by the telegraph of the suits of things in the Crimea. The question he should put now wes, whether any report of any sort had boon resolved from the Crimea by way of telegraph, and if so, whether any body wee able to read it—(laughter)—and should that be the cue, whether any portion of it could be communicated to the public. (Hear ) air C. WOOD said he did not quite understand the ques tion. (Laughter.) He bad already stated that the sub stance of all telegraphic despatches received since the tele graph line had been laid down had been communicated to the house. Mr. RORBUCK—Then what he had further to ask was whether a further telegraphic despatch would be sent out to Lord Raglan requiring hat to send some information to this country. (" Rear, hear," and laughter.) THE . REM, FRIDAY It " f G, MAY ' BAIMPOL rya ttYrt , " el " ot e - .th4ll I t g ' X CIL bramiht up • tart so WU tb• t oewor , ups • 4 tit b. ovidosso Ilkao Won Ito ansaitsoe. oat bat puma arise IC Of THE WHITE at • Malin - ray. Thus 0 ,1= 7 bo • 4 , tow 1.1=1:1 rilit siy ketenr ll 3l =ft o f the not Lot ilpatioatosiVqa•jadfood tos• w had loos blood t do sad, U so, whoa I a filliamal wadd Or • r • • • idsdarooaadossOla tam mmirsd should not fai l = " l37 " bet" la air 1164"Viervie% 68 44 "8" 2167 • Mr O. WOOD said it was the hitsada th.smr wave ....14.tiraed. onsesson dkwasks._ dlIaLs••• telavalroula ea *1 THE ARREST OF SERGEANT BRODIE. Mr. 1417 wished to ask the Under Secret a ry for War, if it was true that Sergeant Brodie, of the Boole killene, was placed nadir arrest for preventing a duel heir,' tong it between two officers of h.s regiment, Cornets Baum garten and Evans; if Sergeant Brodie was reprimAndsd for his interference by orders of the Commander-ia.Chief ; and if there was any objection to produce copies of the charge preferred against Sergeant Brodie, and the terms of the re primand went from the Horse Guards ? Mr. PEEL said it was not the ease, as far as he was in formed, tout Sergeant Brodie had been pl tau under arrest for preventing a duel. It was true he was placed under arrest for behaving disrespectfully to one of the officers of kis regiment. (" Oh, oh," and laugh•er.) However, he was engaged at the time i endeavouring to prevent • duel, and that circumstance was considered as • palliation of his disrespect, and on that aeoount he was released with out further notice being taken of his conduct. No charge had been made against him, and no reprimand hal been sent to him frees the Horse Guards. THE tIABDINIAN CONTINGENT. Lord W. ORA.Ii AK asked the lint Link of trie Treasury whetter the commissariat supplies for the Bardioian con tingent were to be furnished gratis, or whether the ezpense would be deducted from the amount •if the loan. Lord PALMERS roN said that the Sardinian govern ment, according to the original agreement, were to furnish their own supplies, and take charge of their own com missariat; and with that view they loaded two large meets with provisions at Genoa. One of those vessels was unfortunately burned a few dsys after leaving port, with the consequent lose of • great quantity of stores. That would render the Sananian troops dependent on our commisrariat for a portion of their supplies, but whatever they might derive from that source they would pay for, just as for any other commissariat sup plies. Payment would be made for what they reoeived without making any addition to the loan. EDUCATIONAL BILL. Sir J. PARING TON appealed to the government to name as early a day me possible fur resuming the debate on the Edneatios Bill. Lord PALMERSTON acknowledged the great import saes of the subject, but from the necessity of pressing the Scans al measures it would be impossible to rams any city before the Whitson holidays; but he would name aa early a day after them as possible. Lord J. RUSSELL intimated his Intention of postponing the Education Bill which stood la his name on the votes till the house disposed of the bill of the right hon. gentleman, and he hoped the right hon. member fur Manchester would do the same with regard to his bid. THE POLICY OF AUSTRIA. Major REID begged to ask the Fait Lard of the Treasury a question of which he had not given notioe ; whether the allied powers had received any positive decla ration as to the part Austria intended to take in the present struggle ; whether she was to be an active or passive ally; and if active, whether her activity was to be immediate? Lord PALMERSTON—I am sure, sir, the house will enlist me if I decline entering into any details. (" Hear, bear," sad laughter.) THE COLONY OF VICTORIA. Lard J. RUaBELL gave nodes that on Thursday next he would stove for leave to bring in • bill to enable her Majesty to give her meet to a bill of the legislature of Vic toria, to istabials a asnetitutica in and for the colony of Victoria. POOR LAW (SCOTLAND) BILL. Kr. E. ELLICE, jun., rose to move the mooed reading of this hill. It did not in any way Warfare with the opera ** of the existing law, aor did it profess to confer any new eights, or take away any at present raining ; its Dole eldest was to adores We better carrying out of the = law, and memo to the poor of &naiad the mil& the present law professed to give, but which IC ilallsd to prods... He would show the existence of the grossed neglect, the remit incapacity, and the reseed attempt to pretest the rich at the es of the peer. The object sad principles of the English sod IMAM ma were ideatMal : although there was mime diako nale et the elms entitled to relief, the object was to With adequate relief to certain dame. In Ragland them ewe • metals number of moistest oemmissioners appointed, wee te visit continually the different unions, end take into consideration any complaints. Tedelleilinedere mem " to make especial inquiry into all effillgeNtee of maleteatimet by the 41eials, and to examine the Weems compielein is the dames of the officials." Time scald not be • more mangete cheek an the local nelherhim; but is Widen they were subjoin to the force of raft opfelin, which meld be at owe aroused by say ease elnleDientment. If sae man supervision was required inieederad. • fortiori it was still sore required in the ✓imier diettiele id the Itch/sada, where public opinion could Met is We to hem. It would be found that is Om diedele Owe was really es system of leidedies seal ee welshed a state of things called Ise By the present bill he proposed to illielhee to bevies the some powers and the same dodge as time diem powered is &wised. Them in wens he pay periodical visits to the places within giving notice of their intention to do si in add/ that paupers aid others having complaints to make might Weil before them for that purpose. The impeders midi be at liberty, as in England, to make their pedalled elite es often as they might deem it nememg. As the board in Edinburgh appointed the inspentiee. alma gh the Lord Advocate WAS es ofeeso a member. and is this muds of app.:demean he %bought that an alumina sheet be made. He did not know what course the Leal Admiate newt to take, but if he would give Wm Of& 11111 as) a emeidttee be would undertake to prove hie man The LORD ADVOCATE believed that his Mt. friend bad, to a esinalerable eaten; exaggerated the evils of the present mesa Be (tee Lord Advocate), whoa Wisher- Gemmel. had den attended the board of supervbdes. sad bad maiden W remark the gnat seal sad assiduity of Sir J. Y NNI, aid en for hem appeals Wag neglected, be bad easily sins Own emitted agala to the local boards fee se 62 1 the beard of supervision. He Ina far Wm that the administration of the poor law in was perfect, or that Mere were not were that might be remedied, but it was the came with every poor law, sad it would be hardly expedient to disturb the settlement of the question made le 11146, unless they saw their way dearly to an effineat substitute. Hie simple °Weed's to the preemie bill was that, in he, make, it was ne ed Winkled to earry out the object aimed at by Ids bon. frie. Some ether erovereaden pried. Kr. E. ELLICE Intimated that aft', an issurines given by the Lord Admits that government would turn their attention to the stades; be would be satisfied to lime' it in their hands, and withdisw , the seam Ti. modes wee senordi. bylaws, withdraws. SUNDAY (DING SILL. Os the order of the day for the mem/ reading of this bin. Lord E. Oaoavmtoa presented a whim heed traders in the metropolis; Lord Ileammox, from Paddiairten ; Mr. N. Quaggas, hem Oresswial, and ease places ; Sir J. WALidddisT, flea illeadmid of Linden; end Sir J. Ihmtmer, from Wasidester ; in tamer of tb bal. Lord R. GROSVENOR !Wag mend the wood maw beg el the bill, ~^ t~ Mr. WILKINSON rose to object to it, and urged that, however praiseworthy the oldsot of its promoten it was not aAt subject for courshory hatialation. Thies Would be as wash desecration of the SobMeth in dealing before 10 as after that hoar. There had been many attempts before to bring in a bill of Ole kind ; one some few years ago by Mr. Pearson, and the other it 1861 by bin hon. colleague ; but the diSsulties of the case had been found to be so Brut, that neither of them passed. It there were any leghlative interference in this direction, he thought, at all events, it ought to edgiest' with the gouerement. It appeared to him that it was an attempt to legislate segalast the poorer elms of traders for the benefit of those vibe were in better circumstances. He would not himself divide the house againstthe bill, but if any other hoe. member would do so, he would vote with him. If, however, the bill were reed a second time, he hoped it would be referred to natant committee. (Hear, bear.) Lord EBRINGTON war in favour of the bill, on religious grounds. The Marquis of BLANDFORD hoped it would result in relieving one class of tradesmen from the bondage which they endured from the competition of other trades men who kept open their shops on Sundays, and also tor relieving the sensate of tradesmen from labour on Sundays. He regretted that the bill, which was likely to be so useful, passed over the sale of spirits and beer. The sale of fish, game, and other thisga was pro hibited ; but for reasons whic h were well known he sup- posed tie noble lord was not able to touch the sale of spit:ts sad beer. Wino it was that from 6 o'clock to 10 on Sundays the public houses were filled with persoos carousing, and reducing themselves to the level of bouts, he could net conceive a subject more cognate to the present, nor more deserving the attention of parliament. Sir 0. OEBY said be did not and d that there was any opposition to the present stage of the bill, for the hon. member for Lambeth did not propose that it ..hould be read a *mood time that day siz months, bat only sugeested that it should be referred to a select committee. Under these diminution's, it was hardly necessary to protract this disco-lion. (Hear.) The government were ready to agree to the eecond reaming, but he must say tbat previous attempts at legislation were not very encouragieg, or gave any hopes of success ; bat he was watt that this or any bill would attempt to deal with the existing system of Sunday trading. It was not introducing a new principle, for Sun day trading was now illegal; but owing to defects in tl Act, partly from its being too comprehensive, and part from the mode of enforcing penalties, it had been renders inoperative. The pima' bd. aid not rest on the priacipi of enforcing the religions observance of tree Sabbath, for, i it-dtd, it must go much (artiste than it went; but it con salted the general convenient, of the public, and it would deal with a great and crying evil. He believed that it met with the went of the great body of tradesmen in the metropolis. Mr. T. BUNCOMBE inquired whether he WAS to under. stand that the bill was to go to a select committee? (No no.) According to precedent all bills of this nature went • select committee before they were brought before a coat mitt.* of the whole house ; and if this bill was to go to select committee, it would be hardly worm while to dace its provisions now. What did the government intend to do with regard to sending it to a select committee ? All the bills en this subject—that brought in by his boa. friead tko member for Ashton, one which ease down from the Lords, and one brought in by the member for Lambeth In 18.51 were all sent to •select committee, and all fell to the ground. That bad been the cue with all the bills of this kind whisk had been introduced. He did not distrust the inten tions of the noble lord, but he had undertaken to deal with a delicate and difficult subject. He (Mr. Buncombe) had not had a deputation of barbers, like the noble lord the member for Mrevlebone, but he had had deputations from the working elapses, and he knew that they had no desire to desecrate the sabbath— (hear, hear) —they had no desire to make purchases on Sun day morning, bat their necessities required it. He thought that on inquiry it would be found that there must be a great many changes in our social arrangements before you could legislate on this subject. In the first place, there was the questien of paying wages on Saturday evening. It was said teat some employers paid wages at an early hoar; but it should be recollected that • great deal of the work done in the metropolis was piece -work, and • working man who took home his work on a Saturday evening though he might find his wages ready, yet had to wait to get hie next week's work given to him, and it was often past 12 before he got not only his wages but his work ; and how was he to lay in his stock for the following day ? Again, a great many contracts were made with workmen by builders who took them into the eot.ntry on Monday morning and brought them back late on the Saturday even ing. How could these men manage to make their purchases on the Saturday night? He was told that working men went to the public-houses on S .turday and spent their wages in getting drank, but it wee no such thing, for they had not time to do so after they got their wages. Another change must be made before you could legislate on this subject with eff set : you must improve the dwellings of the poorer dames. (Hear, hear.) What was the use of a man in tbis town who often lived with his family and five or six others in one room, bringing in meat or other article, on Saturday eras ing ; they would be putrid before the night was half over. You must. therefore, in the first place, give those classes better dwellings. It was all very well for those who had larders and cellars to say that those persons should make their purchases oo Satutday night. He was told that many tradesmen themselves were anxious that there should be a law against trading on Sunday, and that the very cir cumstance of their trading themselves did violence to their consciences. But no one was compelled to do so, and the conscientious man shoo' suffer for conscience sake. What was it that compelled them ? Why, they said that if they did not, their neighbours would profit by it; and that was not the sort of conscientious men that were worthy the at tention of the house. But he might he asked, whet ought to be done ? He was told that the trading on Sunday after noon was disgraceful, and ought to be put down ; but that was a mere question of police. What he should Pay ought to be done was, to have one law for the rich and the poor. They had had many bills on this question—such, for instance, as Sir Andrew Agnew's bill ; but the only successful lawgiver on this subject was Charles 11., but those laws were not sufficiently stringent for the present time. He would have one law for the whole isountry, for why should a measure be confined to the metropolis? Why should Birmingham and Liverpool, and other large towns, be exempt ? There should be one law, which should declare that there should be no Sunday trading after half-past 10 in the morning of any sort or kind, end it should be applicable to rich and poor. That would be legislation with regard to the Sabbath worthy of the attention of the house, but such little things as the sale of milk, eggs, and fruits, which they were going to discuss, were unworthy of that aeoembly ; but they should enact one al law for all climes of the community. Mr. JAS. MACGREGOR said that having been largely connected with the working men in the metropolis receiving wages, and having had some experience of them, be could ray that there was no class better able to fudge of their own interest; and as regarded the value of a day of rest to them, he was convinced that if they were referred to it would be found that they would claim their right to that advantage. The intelligence of that class was not to he measured by the wages they received, and they were entitled to retain • pri wiles" which had boon sanctioned by • higher legislative pow - er than Chas house, ant which had declared that there Monti be a :lay of ra t ant s etsfAtins from the orainaly tabours of lift. Sir J. SHIILI.IIIf said that Mr. Denoombe's al:comet of the result of sending kills of this kind to a select committee was not very eacouraging,_ and after the fate of these bills he was unwilling to wad this to a Committee upstairs—es pecially as the clauses of the bill were very few ' and seal as the house could make practicable. When his sale friend introduced the bill be said that be was favourable Is the principle of the bill, but he could not pledge himself Is all the details of • bill which he had not seen. There WNW nos, points in the bill which he thought objectionable ; .1111 bethought it mono a bill which was for the benefit of tradesmen only, but one for the promotion of the couillart of the working classes, and he was glad that it had been introduced . There was a growing feeling that thous should be greater opportunities for relaxation afferdsd to the working causes. He never believed that you wad make people religions by act of parliament • bet th e reel of &easy was the greatest he himself knew, Led he wished to eel it enjoyed by the working man. He hoped the noble lord would mowed the bill to a select committee. There I was a prejudice out of doors against bile of this kind, but all the former bills on the subject were impracticable from their very nature. He thought, however, that this would be a practicable measure. He could only say that if any one doubted the state of trading in the metropolises Sunday let him go to Clare Market, a part of his constituency, and he would fled that it was ca rriedi on all day ; and much to their credit be had that evening presented a petition in favour of the bill signed by all the butchers in that locality with °seer two exceptions. Mr. M CHAMBERS said that this had been found to be • difficult subject for legislation, but the reason why other measures bed failed was because they had gone too far. His hon. friead the member for Finsbury was mistaken in sup posing that this bill was unfavourable to the working clams ; and as to the necessity of =akin other changes before such a memoirs was passed, he thought such a bill would rather force masters to pay wages earlier, as it would be urged on them to do so to enable their workmen to go to market on the Saturday, whereas now they did not mind detaining them late on the Saturday, because they could go to market from S to 1 o'clock on Sunday. As to the lower elms of tradesmen, they had pre sented many petitions in favour of the hill; and he had laid some stress on one petition, which came from the New Cut, to Lambeth, because it had been said on • former occasion that the tradesmen In that locality could not do their bushels if such a bill passed, He would support a mea sure which would eeablo all pesos' better to observe the Sabbath. Mr. J. O PHILLIMORE maid that no answer bed boss gives to the objection of Mr. T. Buncombe, that this was merely • local bill ; and he was of opinion that nothing solid be mare injurious than legislating for particular plasm. He thought that the 9th clause, which gave large powers to the polies for enforcing the law, would lead to great oppeessioo if it passed as it stood. Mr. HADFIELD hoped, If the bill went to a select com mittee, that gentlemen would be put os it who were preeti ceLy acquainted with the management of large conosnerh and the mode of paying wages early on the Saturdays and on Fridays, for their @swamies sad philanthropic feelings towards the working climes would be found of great oohs. The real question was the regulation Of the missal of wages, so as to *sable working people to ening* Ueda &grain In such a moaner as to leave time for rest and meta , dos. Mr. W. J. FOR hoped that if the bill was referred to a ' taint eseatitte., that seausittsa should be otaapesed at the class of men now described by his lion — id — d o 004 were practically acquainted with the noonveniences as by working men, and how they should be remedied, TM principle of the bill was somewhat different to that whisk k. had bees described to be by some gentlemen, who meant je think it was based on the religious around of the obeanai os of the Lord's-day. But, in fact, it only went to the p low don of trading, end had nothing to do with that spoofs,' work, sad especially of household service!, to vil l a las commandment applied. It was curious th e bill cuss le tho house recommended by its supporters on the ground that s was not in conformity with public opinion. It wee oug that • number of tradesmen were obliged tt open their shops oa Sunday, or their oustemen would ab an d on that •,1 but if the public feeling were is favour of the prinojpi. l would be more likely that such conscientio us person so w obtain customers. It the bill were founded merely o the wants or the consciences of society, it ought to bs rendered more comprehensive, and applied to g oe whole country as well as to the metropolis, and only to butchers and bakers, but to many w as , .. mach mole important. Alter the recommendadat the eoseteittee on public-houses last year he abo t dd ; have thought that no bill should have been brought in tok this subject which did net extend to the question of the ns. joyments of the people, as well as reedit:tens en the existing state of things en Sundays; but it appeared that the wow otendatioas o. the committee with regard to 'when.. were to be carried out, but the other recommission's' were not attended to. lie eboild not, however, oppos Is u bill at this stage. Mr. KIRK urged that the keeping of the Sabbath hall was morally bindiag on every man ; and hew could dist principle be carried out when the Sunday was desenatal so exit-ordinary a manner in the metropolis? x 'sq S un d a y, on his way to a place oh worship, k a passed through • locality near to that house ceded Soak ton-ground, where there was more trading than on a work day, and be was sure that such a bill was required t o • put an end to such trading, both in the metr0..,... s ever e . the an kingdom. .__ .. isgdom..!le tumid support f' tag ..e ..gat bon. gentln: • . tae understanding that it waste be referred to a select committee. (No, ho.) Let then& hon. gentleman answer for himself. (Laughter.) The hon. member for Lambeth forbore to divide against the on the understanding that it would be referred to e select committee. (Hear, hear.) lie thought ti,e clement the bill would be much better and more decently dimmed in committee up.stairs than in that house. The bill wee most 'triages% in some of its provisions, and would I n d to perpetual collisions with the putice, unless the obastme clauses it contained wet° greatly modified. He Menkee moved that the bill be referred to a select commun. Mr. WILKINSON seconded the mottos. lie undentind the bill wee to be referred to a commit ee up stain. Sir G. GREY said that his boo. friend had mssundentosi what he said. He did not recommend that the bill amid be sent to a select committee. There was ample evideste collected on the subject, and he thought it would be meek better that the house should deal with it at once. His noble friend was wiling to postpone the committee till dis 13th of June, which would give ample time to partite or make their ohj. , ctiona. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that in that case he woaldset divide the house. The motion was then withdrawn. LAND AND ASSESSED TAXES DIVISIONS BILL. Mr. FREWEN. IQ mariog the second reacing of this bill, said that his object was to improve the peewit syntax of the taxing divisions. In large counties, such as Sera, there was great difficulty in gettiog a meetina of the talus( commissioners in any central part of the county. But Plot he particularly objected to in the present system was, thst there was ho means oi adding a parish of one conoty another, however cone, nient it might be to do so. Hs thought that the present poor-law union division. wadi afford a good system of divisions for tazarico. He doll* to give persons who were surcharged greater facility tlss ' they now had of going before the local commissioners sad having their cases heard. He therefore hoped the goesm meat would give every reasonable fseility fur that purpcs• - The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said Ur divisi ns by which the land tax was collected were of rm. siderable antiquity. Each county wee divided into hundreds, in which there were separate commissioners of land tax gad assessecktazes. The commissioners might held a meeting:ea fur the purpose of tranferring one parish in a county to the commissioners in another part of it. But great inconsenimm would arise if power were given to transfer a perish isms county to another county, because the rate of the land tat was different in different counties. As far as be uadentosi little practical inconvenience was found to result from chi present divisions. If any serious inconvenience were prevail to exist, he should be ready to introduce a measure by which the defects might be remedied. But he should object MU remedy propo ed by the boa. gentlemen. Mr. SPOONER did not coasesder the objections urged by the right ben. gentleman sufficient to induce the house to reject the bill. There might nut be many . case, of imam nience nailer the present law, but when i t did arise tMia convenience was very great. A man was often obliged Is travel ten or twelve miles to prosecute an appeal, sad ths expense is him was greater than if he had paid the tu the first instance The house then divided, and the numbers were— Fur the second reading 35 AaalDM it 125-90 IN TESTACY (SCOTLAND) BILL. This bill passed through committee. COURT OF CHANCERY (IRELAND) (JURISDIC. TION) BILL. Mr. WHITESIDE moved the second reading this la He explained the pion which was embodied in this and is a series of other bills which he had lad on the table for tk reorganisation of the Irish Chancery. Mr. FITZGERALD (the Solicitor-0 1 for Deka) opposed the bill. Mr. KEOGH moved the adjournment of the debate, is order that the bills might stand over until the goverment report and measures had been laid on the table. Mr. WHITESIDE, after a few words, said be etna consent to allow his bills to stand over, as suggested. The debate was then adjourned fur a month. DISSENTERS MARRIAGES BILL. This bill was read a second time. INL:OME TAX BILL. The bill was read a third time and passed. CINQUE PORTS BILL. This bill was read a second time, and ordered to be env milted on Monday. EXCISE ACTS. The report upon this hill was brought ap and WEIGHTS AND MEASURES. Mr. WILSON brought in a bill for legslising sum. serving the restored standards of weights and measures. The house adjourned at 20 minutes past one. PHOTOGRAPHIC SOCIETY.—Last evening (Thom day) • meeting of this society was held at their room ' Regent-street, Sir W. Newton in the chair. The sisals of the former court having passed, the chairmen ennotmed that Mr. Maya', the eminent photographer, would rod a piper descriptive of hie new plan of producing pitmen * a " dry " collodion process. In the course of • ray Wl' resting Iterate Mr. Mayell went Into the chemistry of tie subject, and explained the law of substitution of °WM compounds. His new process was founded upon this nn As the ether in the oollotliin evaporated alburnensts ofsdnf was substituted, and the plate continued for weeks se Ism tive as when humid. The importance of the plan lei estimated when it was remembered that a dry tablet weld be seed for all meteorological registrations by light, 5 laical registrations, and the copying of pleats for Imps and other observations where the vital parts soon churl to this was to be added the facility afforded to tremllM, who could now prepare their plates at home and Wm' like armed giants for the papoose of art. At the coutisiss of the lecture a cordial vote of thanks was voted to 14• Mayall. THE NEW LOAN.—Yesterday a return, obtaMod by Mr. Gladstone, was issued, contamies • 'torment el OM amount of deficiency bills bearing interest on the 27G Ag 1853, and of the amount received in respect of the sew of 10,000,000 J, and lying unemployed at the urns data The amount of deficiency bills bearing interest on Me hir_ April last was 2,470,0001., and the amount reoiornLia respect of the new loan or 16 millions, and bing une•PmF • at the same date, was 1,000,0001. INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL FOE MIDDLESE3L—Tb! WM' mittee appointed by the Court of Middlesex lfegutrele to provide an industrial school for the juvenile Module It the county, under the act of last session, has 'elected a elle near Watford. The selection has yet to be confirmed. _ THE ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY OF LONDON,—At monthly. g mooting, held yesterday, at the eordel'i h°11", u""er-minhre,W. J. Bruderip, Riq.,F.R.B., inds! chair, the Hon. R. 8. 11.1.4t11, Mrs. Baker, Miss Fears, eta Messrs. C. Beevor, E. A. Darwin, and C. Sullivan wets elected Fellows; and Dr. G. Ha daub, M. Miloe-114 Agate M. Isidore Geoffroy Bt. Hilaire, and Prof. Louis APP: were elected foreign mew ears of the society; and Lord Clinton, Hon. Augustus Vernon, Rev. Robert Wain, 511: Messrs. G. Bowyer, M.P., 11. P. Currie, C. P. fierocoltiM d P. Gassiot, jun., Matthew Harebell, W. L. S. Buck, t B. R. W. Halsey, E. H. Ku slake, F. G. Bimpkioson, F. la Breton, St. Geo. Hie." and Mrs. Rawlings were proPou i as candidates for the fellowship. HENRY BISHOP.—The remains of this est& brsted ens poser will be conveyed to their Heal reatiarphri ' at the rural cemetery of St. Marylebone, Fisobley, es or turday next, the 6th inst., under the direction of Memel Ganda, undertakers, 6, Welbeck-street, Ceveudish-naMo Several members of the muted profession have is their Intention to testify their great respect and OS!". ' the deemed, by panning armies on gm ormstoo. r f A de Al info! Brit undi T Pan