The Express. — London, England, 1850-11-19 00:00:00

!•1 gite entreoo. TO CORRESPONDENTS. SweSsineribi Waled be "TM Zip"' Leedom Zreedei pow. sirtie et Os 01111" 1, liseverlrasnot, by Two diet as she 41ey et pallwities. MGR WATER AT LONDON BRIDGI. Tins IMT—Wasfae. lb. Inn- Attorms, 111. 411 mi. Twissasow—litembi. IL tia.. -Aborsaia. S. Ms. LONDON, TUESDAY, NOVEMBEN 19. Navn has been a greater stoat in the moral and I religious atmosphere. Never was seen such a mass of fiery mad framing _Glade, dark with popular in- elastics. wading _forth the vehement thunder of ponies, and the brilliant coruscation of awakenfd sad wiry intellect. The entire sentiment of the Mies has been farad into one masa, and all classes boss descended to the same Arum, to complain, to inneat, to vent indignation, and demand vengeance. Nes the humble vestry to the lordly cabinet, vbesswer IBM &segregate, they have been moved to tile time pestle metals lan consideration, the *mat et Rase seastablisk its domination over us, the telekery of week and foolish men, who have I alumbeasg such hepes, and rendered possible such at =who stand In the first rank of authority and Wow* contemplate these great popular ammo elea with different imperious. Some have said, I this is too strong foe us not to be of it, let us join and hood it. Others in the very heat of going along with it have asked themselves, whither does it lead ? Dies it not partake of the religions intolerance, if not of the same, at least of an analogous kind to that which it rants ? Whilst some would make it an onslaught upon Rome, others would enlarge it into a crusade against all bishops. The Timis, evidently seeking to divert indignation from domestic criminals, proposes to get up an insurrection in Italy against toe Pore, or at least to support the Piedmont's, constitatioaalista in their oppoeiuon to him, which very constitutionalists the said Times so lately delighted and contributed in patting down. Others, on the contrary, consider that vengeance as well as charity should begin at home, and their proposed line of conduct would be to tie WISEMAN and Perthhrerris to the same stake, and burn them as victims to the liberty of religious opinion. We are not afraid of the actual perpetration of any of these extreme and angry acts. On the contrary, what we fear most is, that the seal of the public will be so misled towards unattainable objects, and frit tered away upon merely vindictive and useless ones, that the entire force of the reaction will be lost; that, in consequence, no one abuse will be removed, and not only popery left triumphant, but its great work shops left in full activity of creation and of props pndism. The first effort of those interested for religions free dom and religious intellect should be to turn the pre sent movement to some great aim, some tangible ob ject. Without movements of this kind, and without wise men taking advantage of them, nothing is ever done under our form of government, in which minis ters wait on the public even more than upon Providence. It is much to be feared that the present efforts of indignant protestat ion are directed more 'giant form than reality, more against the shield then against the body of its antagonists. Thus a crusade against Wier.aun'e title, against his wearing a red bat, or parfi-coloared stockings, of what avail is it? Is this an object worthy of the zeal of a great cation ? If Cardinal WISEMAN, by hie manceuvres at Rome, and his arro pnt assum l .tion here, have got himself into the meshes of • statute—if his display of the barbarous latinity of Rome has brought hun, like a fly into a spider's web, to be entangled in the equally barbarous latiaity of our feudal lawyers, let the Roman priest and the English jurist fight out their ancient feud, since the former has thought proper to renew it. If the archbishop gets himself installed by virtue of a papal bull, and has treasonable documents read during the ceremony, he ?elle, it is alleged, under the penalties of a pramunire, which are very serious if the popular feeling be in dined to enforce them. If the cardinal, though as Andalusian and alien, has come to exercise India, or other authority in this country, the mere fact of his birth will no doubt suable the government to eject him. Hut this personal quarrel, in dealing with Wins- MAN, is in our opinion a very minor matter. For every casuistical or legal argument we use, the Pore, , we may depend upon it, will fled another. To find such argument is his Holiness's trade, and, thank Heaven, it is not ours. Then for every personal blow we strike, Rome will parry one and deal another. And this bout of polemical einghestick may go on for a very long time, during which the POPE will not be the first tired out. If we can seect a learned Wise- MAN for an archbishop because he is an alien, Pica IX may translate the anti-Copernican CULLEN to Weethilater, and inflict the greatest plague of Egypt on this country by the introduction to it of a when legion of episcopal fly personal viodictiveness directed against the Pore's agents we shall in fact do little. All the triumph we could achieve would be after all of no very profitable result; nor shall we mend the matter by directing vengeance spinet the leader Of the semi-Romanist or tractarian movement. Oan we depose bishops for having favoured this ceremony, or dabbled with that doctrine? Or is it possible or worth while for the sake of the deprivation of even a majority of the bishops to make • holocaust of the whole number? The culpable have, in fact. bowed their heads betas the storm, and the seeking to inflict more on them than their present humiliation would fail. Even wore moms in both instances possible, it would be far from wise to make martyrs of either Romanist or Traotarian, for either of them would thereby acquire an interest and a character which both toe the present want It is indeed imam bent on all to maintain the Quititit's sapeemacy. to uphold the sovereign power of her who con centrates the lay and spiritual authority of the Mate. For without this the great lay community can never be safe against the caprices of oar own clergy, or the hostility of a rival hierarchy. Let the laws for this great purpose be fully enforced, wildest making them stoop to personal or even emtarian via dictiveness. But at the same time lot us aim higher. Let us set about the removing or reforming the nests from which all this abuse and defection have if rna g. Let the presen t movement in behalf of religiose liberty, and against sacerdotal usurpation bedirected to prevention rather than punishment, to security for the future, more than to vengeance for the present. This can only be done by a searching inquiry into the state of those seminaries of the church, the salver aties, into the system of education and roaring for that &mellow well as into the entire messes of church patronage. It is the universities whisk have been mainly instrumental in the bold attempt, that has fortunately tailed, to deaationaliee oar *web, hat whisk has net tailed In dmationalielag the vie espate. 'Trarteriesiea step =a low aid irmaile for the present. Bat w should maillect test these are a knot of datum= =Nag it poem, midl ad =- likely, by estates= mad estabiaatica semseay to obtain it, whose unvarying principle has boa Sat of building up sectselastiail anthor i i i ee4llllllllo with the state, or above it. Sta thseshe es we may keen to be the tat s. cha racter of our sovereign, we mist Ismer aim that the power of the state and Me pahlealla of the church may be tomorrow wie lagt ready to reverse every principle hither,. amongst us, and with these principles every gum= of religious freedom and protestant stability. If men are wise they will now put It oat el ak. power of the national seminaries to rear at'= of the wealthy and of the church in Woolly opposed to to as tie national interest' sad= Y well the universal opinion, of the =elm And they will pat it out of the point dm goverament to give up the strong positkm of the eatabilahed March to be held by its malt and tilleeberees asassies. Our privst• amounts hula Bailie do not proathe we ere le say, ea the pert et the that g ram me sem dielr every mare no w t Fumed he b the mit hilatlea m et a Pow* weld w e reds t sem t* mares% that the Prudes • eneeee l e i evea lame thee Wane a cieweimm u nee That avereelor allgnme nt:2, la hie pride it perm, told the Penahme to be goa t hider rainy el war, tram the Slesetede el Hass. Of eovr his Highs's* alarm amid not 000 tint inp — litise — lis — crOi SSCred Isar vie, bat actually IN the coesritatioualiste 'Psislea 'anises We are >llAirreorriz. prefers this • ere to Tomei& sad keep on Macros mid his myrmidons impriss, end perhaps as po — oled's. — Austrian generals an to IROORMAIrRy him. Reisien himself has offered his services. The first natural eat of this distisgsished oases will no doubt be, to Ogle some of the wives of the Hessian depu . ties.'or solonele, and have them floged by Croats ta the public square of Camel, , The Frussmos, we are told, have consented to 'mita: The Theses, we have no doubt, will, as it did on a preview occasion, this tight tore mode of pacifying Europe. Va d slot oar readers think we are exaggerating : the cruelties and the ruin inflicted by the Austrian and Bavarian soldiers in the south of the Electorate, which they have already occupied, are scarcely lees than we have described. And yet there the poor people have does nothing, and have committed no crime, beyond that of profaning an attachment to their constitution. We do not want to throw all the shame and ail the blame of this upon the Bing of PRUSSIA. Hi= more than other men, are required to he In a country DO advanced as Prossia,= tial principles of ocastitutional and rep government are found to prevail, even when pip liaments as but a dead letter. Thus there were SIN parties in the Prussian cabinet and court, fed es there might be in our own, both looking to pellie opinion and the public interest, and the Km, wavered between them in the agony of conscious that to whichever aids he leaned, hi his reputation and his throne. And let it be premised that of those two contend log parties in the Prussian cabinet neither woes extreme. The ultra and aristocratic party see temned both, as much as the thorough tismosnits ab. borred them. One of the par ties was d agliael dist Prussia having gone so far in the ahrnal sod Ste blishment of a constitational systems, ail only far Prussia, bat for Germany, was bound te madam it, to keep its faith to those princes who had put faith in it and been compromised by it; and that with what. ever reluctance, still in obedience to honour, Prussia should stand by her word, and even draw the sword to support it. Bach was the opinion of the Prince of PRUSSIA, bamboo to the Kin°, presumptive heir to the throne. Sash was the opinion of RADOWITZ, bosom friend of the Km. To such sentiments the constitutional party adhered ; and it was evident that it was only by calling in the constitutional y to a share d power, and by appealin g . throug them to Prussia and to Germany, that resistance could be effectually offered to the menaces of the absolutists. Of a different opinion was M. Meerut - Frei. His sentiments were, that from the first Freesia bad "stared too far in the German question ; that all beeskel the country uniting, and of Prussia heading it. had los lost at Frankfort • that Russia would never permit German representa tion ; and that neither it, nor eves popular liberty at hose was worth a war, which could only be carried ea by , calling in the aid of the popular party and the popular muses which had before swamped the monarchy, and would be ten times mere inimical to it, did they acquire asessdasey or triumph. Better submit to Russia, than Awe victory to your people, has been the advice of MANTRUFFIL. And Meerzurrat has beets listened to by the XING. On Count BRANDRIIBURG'S return from sliellsw — elgerees I have stated what seems theibephisfljett, enter nil and internal; of the gofetthirslat m • arming. °swim dereoceacy is to be threatilid coli the flank, *hike a rival military power to General Changarniar is to be created. The cosservatives, who go an lengths with the first alav a _re the seoond with joggers, and vigllaseel. Me Ammonia& pasty, on the ads hand, wield barn so ebiallies to me a formidable miliftly Imes ea het, whim& amid held in ea rl: ohm& the of the eammauder mama of^ the ' Sok arch-foe, if the mama force wesq, Imelda the east and, north, is Positions to owe*, lb* an struggle for liberty, whisk at any moment to flash out in fierce protest the Cossack rale with which Austria seeks mills Central Europe. Why, itis said, ere eso rink* and reductions "of armaments boastpd of in the e l pe, to receive at the week'b end the most si contradiction, and become the slued illusion. Minion. hat change has taken place since the 12th to justify a total reversal of the pacific policy pro fessed by your presidential statement. The collision at Fulda had already taken place, and since then the diet has stopped fighting to leave room for parley, and affairs assume • more painful upset. This is the moment which you seize to arm. Bat your offi cial journals explain the real motive of your warlike preparations. They say the attitude of courts is peaceful, but the population is in a state of ferment. You arm, then, to help the German princes to costs their unruly subjects. Yoe swell the Co pe bartheas to play the put of gendarme in and to fraternise with Cossacks. This is of 1 a pin; with your Roman expedition. It involves release expenditure, and will make you hated of the German people. Why should Frenchmen do the work of German police. If yon had a seriousforeign policy, instead of a mania for coercing lihmalim abroad as well as at horse, you might at Ude meeemel. hand in hand with England, be dictating each a al tlement of Europe as would effectually avert the re volutionary oonthigration, which you seek to usother; but cannot, and which will only bust up in wild* names for your perverse efforts to keep it down by hew Such is the language of the French liberals. In hit the whale policy of France is at this memest milmlb vieut to a personal object, the prolarepilima of do Preeident'spowers. No broad saving Pea ,, riding salatag principle, productive of a premeneed geed. eau animate • government the head if wile aide limply at getting, by hook or by crook, a fildllllllllll glower. lends Napoleon think of erring *rep 1 Hie one idea is how he shall save himaelG no hew ef the Caar is a much more terrible matter to his am theeadeetion of a soon of German parliaments. Imbed ef presenting an independent front, worthy of the Preach people and republic, at Vienna, St. Peters burg, or Berlin, he is a respectable sort of princely usalicant, begging patronage for his claim to peeps- I reit/ of rale. All hampered u he is by the fetters Weis keep him in constitutional subjection to the Zitalazy club of capacities, were his understand lum: imlirged, his disposition more magnani mous, be would devote the energies of his mind to mme balks rupees than casting about for devices to aill=Cburgeraler, or squeeze from the Assembly peat. Instead of intriguing to stay in a few years longer, he would labour power make his rale a national necessity, by setting France in her tens place, and not abasing her, in compliance with the bigotry and demophobia of reactionary statesmen, to do the dirty work of the absolutist government, of Europe. By leaving a selfish object to embrace a national one, he would play a more successful as well as grander game, and would be borne triumphant upon the vote of the French people top renovated power, which he now seeks ambiguously and precariously by keeping well with the Czar abroad, and with M. Thieve at home. Warsaw with the imperious and damsons con dition which the CZAR imposed, RADOWITZ burst forth in indignation and demanded the instant armament of the peopl e , MANTRUFFIL'a opinion, that it was better to su bmit, prevailed. A Any later, when tidings arrived that the Astro- Berariaes were marching into Hesse, and that fiCawannweitea insisted on the Prunus evacu ating it unconditionally, then indeed the pacific spirit of the Lisa and cabinet wu overborne, their capacity of endurance overcome, and the calling Iseth of the landwehr was ordered, MAN TZUFFEL himself not objecting. But when Prises Scaweizsiszao explained away his rudeness, and when concessions were made by Austria, in form, we fear, more than in reality, then Mermturret. reiterated his old oounsels to yield. notwithstanding the arm* mut ; and Nimes:ores . recovered his influence over the royal mind. Under that Musa the Proasian cabinet is now acting, now negotiating, and we fear that every object for which 11,thowis held out, and to which the constitutionalists sopired,will be abandoned. The Frankfort Diet, representing a minority of the German confederation, and chiefly those interested in maintaining absolutism, is to be acknowledged de facto, which se it includes its de facto invasion, occu pation, and disposal of Hesse and Holstein, is every thing. And the iron rigime of 1847, exasperated by the recollections of 1848, is re-imposed upon Germany. We shall reserve for a future opportunity • state ment of what the real effects of a restoration of the old diet, or any diet on the same principles, will be. But wo will confine ourselves for the moment to the results likely to acorns to Prussia itself. M. Mut- TeI:TFIL, as minister in that country, has convoked the chambers, and he is about to meet them on Thursday. The royal speech cannot but communicate the state of the negotiations with Austria, and at the ewe time with this information, the minister must demand a certain amount of credit, for the exposes of the summoning of the landwehr are enormous. The probability is, that the chambers struck with Si pentane of the expenses and the utter nullity of the result derived from them, will either in disgust rakes M. Kurrsverac his demand of funds, or they wgl require time to disease and consider it. In that Dees, M. MANTIDITRL will find himself somewhat in the position of M. RAIWINPritIO in Swim And as he may net Wm to resign ink constitu- Sisal way before the disapprobation of the chambers, be an say, with M. liusinern.oo, that the laws of she Gessu Confederation, under the Frankfurt DIM, dein it illegal sad contrary to law for peda gogue@ Sales whatever funds the King's government tenet' /sr the public service. finch se the law of the P the law acted upon in Hems. In conaisteney, then, M. MANTsurrm meat dissolve the Premiss Chambers, proceed to levy the taxes, not only without their unction, but agelast their vote; and if resistance be Shred, and the Pre mien army refuse to enforce his will, Austria and Bavaria will be celled on, under the orders of the Dist, to make the Premium obey M. KuiTzur rs., jest as he has allowed them to march in to make the Hes4in obey M. RABIIIIIIPFLI7O. Now this is precisely the course whisk things are taking in Germany, the curse that is most warmly abetted by the ruces and Chronicle, and which the gentlemen who deal in the public stocks sit= highly soadeeive sad confirmative of pea. Now we do not want' to imam prieelpie before =eh a public; nor would we time vainly making appeals for a sl u t s 's liberties, or a psopWs eights ; bet we tell them that every measure thus adopted, every step of hay thus epplamied, leads directly to emulsion end ' war, to the daprealadan af di* FraFaraTt and the ruin of all the hams of Europe—we tell sus that this surdas, this ussessemary, this military tyranny' see though appearing successful for a ma meat by the cowardice or treachery el mSa, is still bet tee caftan to produce a more dreadful re adieu wilds very account. It is too late is this, the shesteenth century, to hope to establish peace by Iraribe down the rights and liberties of WI NN@ of an intelligent, • proud, a wealthy, end a numerous people, like the Germans. Were we anarchists, we should dealt in the infamous and outrageous we behold. But it is as lovers of = llll 4 . 4ece,et vial development sad commercial , that we deplore the blisdaus, Woe**, cruelty of those in power—all of them far greater than wee displayed by the lowest of European rabbles at the worst of their frenzy. — The sitting of the Legislative Assembl7 to-day wan signalised by a skirmish of the majority with the Mountain upon the election of Gen. Lahitte for the department of the Nord, which presents the first ap plication of the electoral law of May 91. M. Betting de Lencestel having brought up his report, which stated that Gen. Lubin* had been elected by 83,891 votes oat of 88,497 voter', and 142,208 inscribed, M. Schcalcher protested, in the name of the constitution against an election which violated the Ist, 24th, and 29th articles of the constitution. M. Michel de Beluga seconded this protest, and con gratulated those who had practically ppro tested against the law of May 31 by abstaibing from the poll. M. Bawds defended the law against an attack which he designated as a positive offence. (Violent murmurs on the LA.) M. de Flotte main tained, in reply to the Minister of the Interior, that when a law was contrary to reason and justice, it might always be attacked with propriety. (Manaus on the Right.) The president of the Amenably said that in that case every one might set himself rep as a judge of the law. But the question wan to vote on the election. The house then divided. For the validity of the election there were 480 votes, against 173. General Lahitte was proclaimed representative for the Nord. _ _ _ _ The Aesembly adopted, without debate, the bill raiag the oommerctel treaty of May 1, 1860, with Sardinia. Various articles of the bill for placing electric telegraphs at the disposal of the public, were then adopted without discussion. The house then pused w the second reading of the bill for facilitating the marriage of indigent persons. Nothing farther of interest occurred. 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Ilmak Mona ----MP . 8057400 —Vaginas OA bask), 187 60; Perim sad Ov um., 786 ; Reuss sad Ram, 247 50 ; Miming. sad Avigaos, 180; Stream' sad Bale. 126 k 6; Orleans sad Vilma, 379 50; Sadism, sad Makes, 197 60; Other, sad Ilealssaa, In 26; North. 400; Para sad Iltaabeara, 343 76; Tomi sad Naar" $4O; limisreis sad Troyes, 87 60. ii — tiii7;llWiriii•iii. periiiii«;.l — ii --- i"b• - iii- I•,isiuu.r win lo read with the Wont sal wl.tlr k to 2 6 poo t tlit me wolt i r t jo Rod al ierveL 1 1edeai t IL I ZVV Ika bh la ari e s.,ta ill it: vaa re= et In_ rokhohittio wal be plumed Mt in these lobos am awls Maki= tio Pekoe t,, sal Oa be eesept the bums le be opts or 71.Val a san g a nt r.d., Ja i 31, =Ps ' w 6.1 explanation...— llemands nal =G oa resalkfoit.ka ibitSao Author vrialatiPla to tutathey have bm remind." Then are two viasits of the coibieb 'eta ists— blished by the of/Me° papers. According to the Zrean Zeitting ? it is said to be favourable to peace, hat not definite. Austria declares her readiness to wave her military preparations if Primal& will do the gime, again oonsents, at the same time, to the free oonferencees, but demands that they sh alli meet at Vienna. The other version describes the note as most decidedly hostile, and demanding the acknowledg ment of the Bundestag. The cabinet order appointing the Prince of Prank to the chief command of the second, third, and fourth amps of the army, and of the guards, was signed on the 16th. These oorpstire to operate between the Oder and the Elbe. The head-quarters of the Anetro-Bavarian general of division Legeditenh were removed from Bamberg to Bohweinfurth, on the 11th. The Prussian troops which lately held Fulda still hold the military rad on the Eisenach and Hessian borders. Large bodies of Austrians passed through New etadt on the 13th, to Franconia, and took the road to the Ekon by Henfeld. On the 12th the Bavarians were 10,000 strong on the river Folds, about six miles from Gain. The standing committee of the Hesse Cassel Cham ber continues to anent the right of the national repre sentation. Oa the 13th it pronnted and imprisoned au employe of the government for attempting to col lect time. The standing committee of the Wnrtemburg Cham ber, sleeted in opposition to the ministry, who protested that the royal mandate had abolished the law insti tuting inch a body, is now under a prosecution for prolonging_ its existence, and assenting the right to perform official ants. It, however, continues to meet and Pass resolutions, which it publishes. As its pro ceedings appear likely to originate a state of relations between the people and government similar to those existing in Hesse Cassel, the government has applied to the Emperor of Austria for aid in quelling the re sistanoe it foremen. . . . . Fro; Bosse ldoif we learn the arrival of regimental of Baden infantry and cavalry, on their return to their own country. The Prussians who occupied Kehl have quitted that place, and been replaced by troops of the Orand Duke of Baden, who were received with enthusiasm by the inhabitants. The Dense are fortifying Ban. Their forma are concentrated upon Sanderburg. The Holsteiners advanced, on the 14th isatant, upon Belkholm Ockenber, took four primmer', and withdrew with slight low" gerfaX - MASONS ton 1. Because I have come to the conduit* that I have been deputed to this council by the constituencies which have elected me, for the specific purpose of aiding in the creation of representative institutions for this rotary, and for that pupae only. 2. Breams, holding my 'eat at this board in virtue of the said election only, I do not consider myself suborned to enter upoa any other matter than that for which I have been so elected and deputed. S. Because neither the matter now introduced by his ex cellency, nor any one of the other matters comprised in his excellency's memorandum, as laid before this council on the 6th inst., or in the minutes of the 10th init., refer in the remotest degree to the maim of representative institutions for this colony. 4. Because I deem it inexpedient in every respect that every me of the matters or subjects comprised in the said I smenegeadum and minutes be in the present circumstance of **felony, settled by this council, as at present coati. Ida Deana I do especially oonaider myself incompetent, area elm strength of the trust or commission with which I ma Merged by the people, to vote away one farthing of the Infiney of that people whoa object is thus deputing me is se expedite the construction of a constitution which shall phis dm whole of the said money at the disposal of its re posealatives to be in parliament assembled. 6. Because the executive government of this colony has a already for a considerable time gone on to appropriate the public money without the authority of the legislative conceit, and because It is more consistent with the spirit and sense of the people, that the said irregularity, in as far as it may be strictly unavoidable, should continue for a few months looter, and be answered for to the future parliament of this colony, than that the people should be debarred of its right of scrutiny by means of its representatives through any sanc tion given to the said irregularity by this council, as at pre sent constituted. 7. Because I firmly believe that this council, as at present constituted, would deem It neeesealy to sanction items of expenditure which the said parliament would reject. 8. Because, in the discussion of the question "of the resumption of public works," it is absolutely necessary that various inmate be represented which are not represented by this council. I allude artfully to the commercial interests of this colony, and more especially the interest of such an important seaport as Port Blisebeth, and because we have every reason to expect that those interests will be hilly repre sented in the future parliament. 9. Because the financial relations between the colony and the Orange River sovereignty, as well as the causes and history of those relation', require a degree of scrutiny which cannot be successfully conducted except by the sai d parlia ment, will* It is ;expected will comprise members of the local knowledge and informed= necessary in such scrutiny, because also any money voted for on account of the said sovereignty, without such scrutiny would be highly unjust towards this colony and other parties concerned, and because the said financial relations would indirectly establish a con nection hawses' this colony and the sovereignty, which ouabt to be left to the decision of the future parliament. 10. Because of all the matters and subjects above referred to, there is not one which would not be more appropriately discussed by the said parliament, and which would, therefore, gain considerably by a few months' delay, for passing over " the ordinate*. which were before the council last year," and which cannot be of a very pressing nature, the discussion of the propriety of enacting a law to establish trial by jury in *elites's," would be materially benefited by the opinions of • greater number of lawyers than this council now contaior, and by the opinions of the merchants who, we may expect, will be deputed to the said parliament,—" Whereas the proposed establishment of a rural police on the frontier divisions, the state of the law relative to the relations of neaten and servants, the removal of squatters from govern ment lands, the propriety of appointing resident magistrates at the missionary institutions, the wine and spirit ordnance, the educational establishment of the South African College. and the confirmation of two amended rules of "eat proposed by the judge" of the Supreme Court," — ought certain) y in the present state and prospects of the colony, not to he allied except upon the most mature die elusion by the legal, mercantile, liana, and agricultural representatives, who may be expected to be deputed by the said parliament provided with the full confidence of the atu• ll. u rkiii:n a :e d if this entail and the Secretary of State for the Colonic, as is duty bound, ass their best endayoun to expedite theetablishment of the said parliament, that par- Wotan ma o pen is fi ne aerial about the middle of the next yew, 1561, go that no material delay will be ceased by the postponement of the said matters and subjects until they eau be brought before the representatives of the people, in stead of being carried through by • legislature which but wildly enjoy* the public confidence. ( 6 tgoefl) A. STOCOLIMMTB,OII, . C. J. Baena, F. W! Rutz, Joan PLUM/Mlle. From Natal we learn that the improvements on the bar had produced an encouraging effect, there being at neap tides 11 feet at low-water, and about 18 at high water. The report of the commission appointed to inquire into the circumstances attending the wreck of the Minerva his been published; it slates in conclu sion : "We cannot help remarking that if due pre caution had been taken, by having a sufficient quan tity of both cables on deck on the evening of the 4th of July, the vessel would probably have been saved." The arrival of the Henry Warburton, from Liverpool, is noticed. INDIA AND CH INA A gn4th:sail irharfage duty payable in on and Shoon's Therm minute relative to the Orange River Soya contains little ths we have not previously our readers of, wept a rather important of the soma* *emoted to the legislative Bless Palateb. The expenditure in . not as there represented 2,8891. 9s. 10d., 4,9041. 14s. ad. No dismission took plus on these minutes; bat, Mr. Fairbairn, in his newspaper, argues is favour of the council's confining its operations as much as possi ble to the framing of the coselitatiess, and leaving the hands of the future legislature free. In the legislative council, on September 20, when some drafts of ordinances were presented, and the motion was made by the hon. secretary to government, that one of them be read • first time, Sir Andries Steckel:tato= moved an amendment, to the effect that no other business should be proceeded with until the ordinances containing the constitution of the parlia ment of the Cape of Good Hope had been completed and passed. Upon this amendment a long and earnest dismission arose, which terminated in a division, when it appeared that there were seven to four against the amendment, which was consequently lost; all the official members, with Mr. Godionton and Mr. Cock, voting against, and Bir Andries Stockenstrom Mr. Brand, Mr. Reitz, and Mr. Fairbairu voting for it. The attorney-general then moved to the effect that such matters as the estimates should be proceeded with in due course, eaving it to the council to deter mine whether to proceed or not with other matters, as they might, on full consideration, think fit. This was carried by the same majority, the same four members, as before, voting against it. Sir Aedries Stoeitenstrom then rose and read the following reasons of dissent, which he signed and handed to his excellency, tendering, at tke same time, his resignation, and retired; Mr. Bland, Mr. Reitz, and Mr. Fairb eirn doing the same: THE OVERLAND MAIL. We have received by express our deep:Odes from India and China in anticipation of the Overland MaiL The dates are : Bombay, Nov. 17 ; Calcutta, Oot. 7 ; Madru, Oot. 12 ; Canton, Sept. 26. The following is the letter of oar Bombay eo n . spondent BOMBAY, Ocr, 17. The country from end to end continues wnpt in profound peace and tranquillity, and it is to be hoped it may long continue so. Unless, indeed, we to aseltiog enemies beyond our frontier, as was the rage in days gone by, it is hard to conceive with whom we are to quarrel. You have latterly been nijost to the great majority of • Indian editors, i n ac . cueing them of being " still for war," in refer. awe to the tribes of Kohut and its neighbourhood. ' There are exceedingly few indeed of them who advocate hostilities with these tribes, nearly the whole of them being rather in favour of subsidisitg them, as was, it is alleged by some, recommended by Sir C. Napier; while others again aver th a t t h e old chief was for subduing them ei et arias, and that this was the point on which he and Lord Dalhousie first quarrelled. It seems quite certain that willingly our troops will not again be pitted against the hardy mountaineers, and the approaching visit of the Gover. nor-General is expected to be productive of as amicable arrangement with them. Everything eo n . tinned quiet at Peshawur and in its neighbourhood, the tribes waiting the advent of the great man to doubt as anxiously as our own people, as proponts had been submitted by them to our government to keep open the Kobat Pass for a consideration. A good deal of sickness prevailed, hut the deaths were few. Sir W. Gilbert left Lahore on a tour to Wuzeerabad, Seealkote, &c., on the let instant, and would return by the 20th. Captain Genesee, 14th dragoons, has met with a serious accident. Il e seems to have gone to sleep on the fiat roof of a house in the Shalimar Gardens at Lahore, and to have tom during the night and fallen to the ground, thereby breaking his right thigh close to the socket, and receiving other serious injuries. Some fears were enter tained for the results. The forts in the Punjaub are said to be about being fully armed and garrisoned, heavy guns having been ordered up from Delhi and Agra fur the purpose. Sir H. Lawrence wee shortly expected to return to Lahore, where a considerable amount of sickness prevailed amongst the Ist European Fusiliers and 651 Native Infantry in the city : those in can tonments outside being healthy. Scinde affords no thing in the shape of news except that the troops and inhabitants were enjoying urneusl good health for the mason at Hydrabad. From Upper Scinde hardly a word is now-a-days ever heard. Sir C. Napier is looked for at Nurrschee by the end of Nov., on his way home. A rumour prevailed that Mr. Pringle was about to proceed on his tour to Upper Scinde. Major Kennedy, Sir C. Napier's pet. vete secretary, has been appointed Consulting Bail wayEngineer to the Bengal government, on a misty of 3,0001. a year. The three judgeships of the Madras Court of Small Causes have been conferred on Messrs. Burgess, Rose, and Fullerton. The metropolitan of India is about to proceed to the Straits, and the Bishop of Madras is ex pected to give Bombay a passing call, on visita tion. The Nepaulese Ambassador was expected here by the last mail, but he has yet to come. Brig. Monteith, Bengal army, has sucoeeded to a fortnoe of 18,0001. a year at home—lucky fellow, 'he'll feght na mak." Another tight has taken place be twixt the troops of the Naweb of Elichpore and those of a refractory landholder, in which the former were completely victorious. The Prince Frederick of Schleswig Holstein is now at Calcutta, haring arrived there incog., on board the Bank of England, from Sydney. The Hon. Sir F. Carrie is now on leave at Ceylon. All, or nearly all, the Bombay lawyers are now away on !ears at Ceylon, or the hills, to which latter place S,r E. Perry proceeded for a few days. Lord Falkland is at Mahabuleahwar, and has completely recovered from the effects of his late illness. Sir W. Cotton has not returned to Bombay, and it is not known when he intends doing so. Major J. Holland, Deputy Quartermaster-General, has gone to Poona to relieve Colonel Campbell of the duties of Q.M.0., he being about to proceed home on the 3rd prox., when Major H. succeeds him. General Barr also goes home on the 3rd. There is nothing else to notice which is not fully touched on in the subjoined summary from this morning's Times : Another naiadeas fortnight forms tolled of complaint to the newspapers and congratulation to the people. tram the Ist to the 10th October thunderstorms were experienced in Western India, and stormy weather seems to have prevailed all over the country from Ceylon to the extreme north-west frontier.—The Governor General and suit* leave Simla on the Ist November, and proceed via Roopur, Hoosbeazpore, Pathunkote, and . Deenai r ouggne, to Lahuie, 'and after a . hell there of three weeks, to Peehawur by theusual route. Heavy rain had latterly somewhat interfered with the com forts of the noble party at Cheni ; but they continaed in excellent health. It is reported to be intended to fortify, arm, and garrison, the principal strongholds in the Punjaub, with a view, we presume, of diminishing the number of troops at present deemed requisite for its safety. The state of the Kohat frontier is still twitter of much con cern, and it seems au open question whether it might not be more wise to leave this part of our possession to the charge of the tribes themselves, than to maintain it at the present charge and risk. Sir C. Napier is understood to have recom mended that we should sub.idiee the tribes, and the gallant chief is the last man to recommend the purchase of peace could it be obtained on any other terms.—A scientific I survey of the Salt Range has been ordered by the Governor. General; Mr. Pardon, who is to have charge, M ordered to be in Lahore by the let of November. — Lieutenant Robertson has been ordered to commence • setentiflc sone; of our frontier bordering Jemoo instead of the Raves. Government have engaged the services of Mr. Mardeck, as mutineer in the iron yard at Roorkee. The government of Bengal have resolved to levy a toll on the Grand Trunk Road : nothing could be more wise than to extend the means of intercourse in all direetioas, making the people pay for the roads some trifling fraction of what they dMati7 gained by them. It is a most serious misfor tune is India that government is looked to for everything— ' , the people will do nothing for themselves, and the country, which might ee easily be so greatly improved, is left alone. Tremendous rain *marred near hildnatoore in the end of September, thirteen inches having fallen betwixt Use 22nd and 27th ; this is nothing to what occurred as Rejkote on the 27th July, when twenty-seven inches of rein fell is twenty-four hours, thirty-three in two days; Nom heaviest fall known at Bombay was on the 25th July, Mil, when thirteen inches fell in twenty-four hours. The =around Pnrneah has been so flooded that the de af the rice crop was apprehended.—The coal in =AMMO is at present bang extensively worked by a eepartnery ; the chief objection in the way is the Milimity of navigating the Berhampooter, and the expose, la amatqaeree,_ of bringing the mineral to mar e t.— Ti Maharajah Dttalleep 81ngh has had a residence assigned be his at Puttyglinr ; he is under the supervision of Col. Goestwyn. The Maharajah Goolaub Sleigh of Juno° has sent a sollection of shawls and other articles of = manufacture to Lahore, for the great London of 1851 ; they are valued in all at ten therimuld pounds, and axe bestowed in free Oft ea the trustee.. The contributions of the other hill aids around are numerous and costly amongst them is a snit of steel armour inlaid with gold, from the Rajah of Naba. Amongst other things are models of we.. pone and implements such as ought to be interesting. Nanuck !Mahal* rupees, to the value of 320,0001., are now on their way from Lahore, to be re coined at Bombay into complino rupees. —One of Sodom the parti es condemned for murder at the late Criminal was executed on the e d ; the other criminal was reprieved, and will, it is supposed, be pardoned, from the questionable nature of the evidence against him, and the fact of the man who was executed having distincill declared the day before his death that he had not been pre sent in the house when the murder was committed. —A oar rant of the Bengal Artillery, by name M'Keons, bee been eoaviened at BarsiUy of the murder of his wife ; he ran, her with a sword while under the influence ri l e!: =el I r g iel o fen B 4 is swami ' ornasiev. Ma ildlause ghtytho is f ee eth of erel la iwth te s i b e r r e ea n g u rprevalt the :L e ri n f t at i lls Ifibis'lleSiegirmly a man of either corps at the station& far *as which had begun to fall in quantities on lift. Maid, it was hoped. improve matters. Cho hal Mil Mea paging around Agra, and some fatal cases lise" oesntsteenchy. The foundation stone of a ne w axl e !' Oa tta. Madras, was laid by the bishop on ::: r e lle Indian Peninsula Railway ha s ad Me embankment acmes Sion Martl, / 111 Milli fhaß ; it is about half a mile log, en. is the Wl* as the line. Major Kepi:oly,. vats seltS t In Mfg C. Napier, has b ee n swan!" may ember to the Bengal government, in "4 le • 11, aye eilmisaliall" to Barnes, oar a salary of R f.. a Mmath, or ye ar.—The French trig ats Pou_ Whig completed her repair', went out of dock an B. D. Writes, deputy collector cus of tomei died at the presidency on the morning of Sass o : day last.—A large body of the merchants and °then f Bombay have mem the Lords Commissionen . of her Majesty's Tammy to attend the mail Gomm , • ta the most northers ports In Chisiniit present Vet s ' lO knit Ilhaseisai and the Mhos Pao as the act* NOM COWL • • . THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVP;NIN C 1 0 , 81! NOVEMBER 19, 1850, t, _ re awes though; that Pr; FRANCE. !' A i liOrallIANY. . clwar ii. . at to .stay ' . smj: -- ,---- 4- ...--• 4 4'>. 4' • '1..• • ' i gii iii ' ' .------- atia dto abaci ~' 1 .P' W. •it /humid. ' Oak otavessodaat writes as foliolla 2 Wooly cot - .. . ezarehriag 11"" 1 . , _ iCe•daylat %hod of ..g C. ' l4l ' '" ' 4 . 31111/12 1.0 2 Aa• 3atemed 04 " der till/ '"' Vilbdtmuad la Year of " . t =fr. Thatri p :*eeeived ratztay in deci- " m o m , the ' a- • . ••• al " ► ,„ lli sive. !Worms, La a ma - amodato at are a, that iis.. : p 008 ort 4 d tbe • •• ' rot ausicatioa eye: •aaliflos is il e;der•la Calrrit - v il l ild tea year. The postby . 4, With regard to the Mate= ads whisk arrived .b e e ow Loos return to punish. exile. 0800 k:somage of the Prows Leto have roterday, we hoar that explanation's' additioaal N o gi on alb some of the Prelatil° l4 theialed this rigorism aeaboase:- _--_ -_ _ - --- - - tatormaWa havirbiali thataitaded - ifeell — aar - ,alta Mr. garbs ' "' CAPE OF GOOD HOPE. We have received Cape Town papers to Sept. 26 ; those from Graham's Town to Sept. 21; and tram Natal to Aug. 30. The Cape Town journals are full of the proceedings of the Legislative Council. On the eth of September, Sir Andries Stockenstrom, Bart., C. I. Brand, Esq., F. W. Reitz, Erq.. and J. Fairbairn, Esq., four of the members nominated in conformity with the votes of the municipalities and divisional road boards of the colony, were sworn in as members of the council. On the 10th, Mr. God lonton, the fifth member thus appointed, was sworn in. The only other non-official member, Mr. Cocks, who was simply nominated by the governor, had previously taken the oaths. On the 10th the council adjourned till the 17th. A committee of the whole council, on the constitution, was meeting every day, except Mondays and Thursdays, at 10 a.m., and its deliberations were usually continued till 4 or 5 p.m. At the meeting on the oth November, Sir Andries Stoolusustrom gave notice of a motion for a committee to ascertain and report the names and number, of the peters voting for each of the flee members nominated in consequence of the district polls. From the discussion on this subject, which took place on the 10th, this motion appears to have been levelled against the appointment of Mr. Godlonton. The other four "elected nominees" were returned by the largest numbers of voting bodies., Mr. Godlonton was only 11th on the list. Mr. God lonton complained that the motion had been in timated in his absence, and some sharp words were interchanged between him and Sir Andries in coo sequence—the only asperity of language as yet Amer- vable in the discussions of the ceunciL The govern ment acquiesced in the motion, which was of course carried; but the Attorney - G eneral intimated that when the report of the committee was made, be would move a resolution to the effect, that all the five members in question had been nominated in con formity with the notice of the sth of May last, and held their seats on the same principle. Mr. Fairbairn objected to this intimation as irregular and premature; bat the Governor ruled that the Attorney-General having declared it was in conformity to law, no objection to it could be received. Mr. Brand protested against the doctrine that the Attor ney-General was entitled to lay down the law to the council. We note this discussion, which may seem =im portant to some dour readers, as it indicates the posi tions likely to be taken up by the new members of council, which may probably be the origin of party connexions in the future provincial legislature. Messrs. Fairbairn and Brand may be considered as having been elected by the whole colony, with, how ever, a preponderance of supporters in the weans districts. Sir Andras Stockenetrom owes his paella the rapport of his coantrymoie of Dutch rem, ad perhaps still more to the support of the coloured a* tare on the Hat River. Mr. Hodloctort having dissented from some of the proceedings . of the Anti-Convict Association, is rather in bad odour in the western eateries, and represents ex ' elusively the eastern districts, to the exclusion, per bop, of Oust Reynstt and Ilitenkage. Mr. Brand to peseta the ocinfldsnes of all settlers of race. Mr. Pairtaire's adairable manage mewl et the sad-emote =bad= Me =notated the DSO fee the prams; bat the old grudge they owe killl tits the part he took in the slave emancipation alieleirnes' protoodon movements may break oat gtMr. Godantea has the support of the ise settlers, who have softer= from Kaffir de. gueistiows sad wars, in coppices (they belay?, end we Oak with justice) of policy adopted in essasseam with the views of . Nap-bairn. Mr. and Mr. Oodlonton are more friendly disposed lettherseretee Has Mr. Brand and Mr. Parboils, bat tiale si al the government will be conditional= t ie views in favour of a separate lega sesta' diarists. Mr. Brand and Mr. lhababs have had personal collisions with the E, and are likely to be km= into opposition mit freeseabie to the separation of the eastern , bat have not &cared against it. Sir Able. SadisMibt%es he his always done, shows of l*arsa with the bare and Mil the herseds." He has declared against Ho relies open the sniped of the Data I on the of his sideway i of the on the gamed et hi aepport of with regard us them. He will aim hawse the path* that supports him and the goveraiest (whoever my be in Mho) se loag as be cos. At the isestiag of Conseil on the 10th of September firm Want= were prevent= by the gmemr relative a the Salami Y istimilsd to intro tiering the ,ecasioa. The Stet relates to "Fawn r the second to " legislatiee F . ' the Odra w * lenakynop • lobs the four& to frSOresce Baer Sops WINDING UP OF JOINT STOCK COMPANIES. TIM ilLatTiAlgthit Such.—Yastorday his Honor, Maar Ximkeskr, bather are waded with the settlement of eu, ig merles Is this asamay, whisk Is now surly eattled. The entstaading liabilities of the bank to he discherged &ra aithesaid at 26,0001. ; mad it is sonipamd that the maw of abiding up he stain will not probably tap kr them of ambling that &mutat. Tha awake of shares whisk will ha readesed liable is aspen of say call to be madis:to pay al** liabilities, mamas to bistmea 2,000 and 3,000. Yea raka a long altruism% took plebe is connexion with Ma saes at r. Brooks, of Ramessrmitk, whim Mr. Rakednuesaossuasel for Yr. Kompehead, the MIMI atr plass oa the list ra Maulers* of five shares re a l rl= k id m ey, ekes ea laselmat, sal ef wham wader wid the keekmasy, the bask had barilt the shins. Another anesties raked was, whether Xr. Breda, we a sharelieldia of the sompaay ; mad his rif Nab Imolai derided la the elirmative, baths( bola pold is raved of salts and dividend resolved, reserved the swedes of liehlUty oa the WOO el the weaskr, about Me eas at whisk ha thought these was ao moral doubt, =tit kraus mikado was ro ared as to L vekft, sad as he he hulas hem Oka* la aesaMmes with the kfm par hid la the diadem Dam, Dinh AID CAPRI PORTS RAILWAY.— Tke meefiag lakes hb Roam Maras Broaglians, yester day, was la osathar the dolma of rsNMrs, the list of ma. tributaries Make beta settled. Yes. Onmedin, ski AIM meager. reports that thaw is due hem the boathassetta Railway Oes=7 a sum MBAR, the GOMM of as aria. takkg ism y to deny the expenses laparred la the meat of thil= the Dour sad Dal Clammy= lU mid elasim la sh pisliesessit, kr whisk a mallet ismem mai whbithail ham radiate mart At ilil pald, with a Ukases' 1,23“. still i is the OemeaseeM Beak, Will, it b sweated, immildis t leZ. obi manager le dukes a dividend d lie &smog the share holden. PENNITLYANIA Conine AND Lash.—lt is reported that an Mamba and lead 10C111atiall has be.. dis covered is PeatarA aorta flehaylkdi river, and only shoat 10 WIN ; and tits extent of the rigat e r ai r a i se , nab as to warrant the et • *my arising oat of it. Soate of the tido base butt y worked withis the pre yew, The ate is Ng to beer a Wittig rasa l ye se to that of dr Wad Cabs Edam The OS A* WI YAM Id per upon ooppeTV.Vt d ad and dint see, *Sidi hi are hes bias assayed, as amiss about/Ufa and. Isal, aad wi ll yield el lam shot IS del. to Mie Ths•Plistileass seine, with& is sear thenstelidlsieverid velar, has beet worked to the depth et &sat WO MI, sad wee tam a quotas of • sale et sat, Wake& hats thready bee. received fee are, sad t WO massy kavebesaliaed but yet yet siat to Sistririllt I' gen SPAIN. DIADEM Nov. 13. The debate on the address was coatieeed is the Senate. If. Fidel nada a eassenfel 'posh, in en , ewer to amoral Weide. The project of address will be read in the Obasaber of Deputies on Thursday or Friday. MADAM. Nov. 13 Three per Osate., 36 ; altar Be" 36 parr, 3416.16 auk. Year pot Casts., 121. Play per COOL. 13; after Balsa, 131 piper, 13 Nab. Coarca, 711 ea& ; attar Baba, 78 ensii. Pasalyas, 3 16.16 gals; after Baba, 31 sub. Beak Of Bt. Patdbamel,96l. lizaiaap ea LOA'S. 60.36. ITALY. PIEDMONT. Th e cl i mber of Dodges el Tian, is its sit{: et the 12th, sound So dlosusios ea the bill rising the gorimmeat le Whet the two d the two following swaths es tho Wed the pumas yeses budget. Is adergossse 4di idissirriii by Big. Podia, le Se dist tbst the Merest parts of the bill should be poi to the vete separately, as udaated dissereiss messed, NM* aided in the time et es emir of the day, proposed by Sig. Pisani, daelaelat that the bill ides diseesdon was sot in Is isodik the votes of the Chamber es foredo budgets. me ressaisdar of the dissurica was Memel t, 204,141 L ; of revenue of the first MINN 1111111121104 1119 VOINIASCiIt Of the diseamion 7 "i t ; etimatod , mums toe 1861 i • 901.161E 0f was sibissei to the hi/owing day. 202,6081. The selisested rwormes et I wee 218,88114 the ideal receipts he the first Slnaane — ldat War a yam, nested half ye* are 109,6001. The ..Bested moose of Mari& Ihrisd. lagfai et Ito. 7, serum chides. 1849 was 216,4421., the acted reosipts were 227,7341. 1181."11161 "ire" ' Se, ' t the Mr The estimated nT•11116 ix 1861 is lower than that ai el r • emu ih Ylaa ssee l"le raholsisdi 4lllllllll4dleilli mse le nt 18 2; tor 1860 on arsonat ot a deem* in the land sales. et we ha skimmed ths vie ran far. *s o The roomer, he. idled the attention of the Ocoee *sin s• Shwa mo d, she ' w e isse ag I. to she tot stows comminieadoa with surgeset d Awe yes limesad, GM hammiest of the harbours of sod ler; sad, as kb midget, jammed her to be b4ese , Fort gilialisrh. the Vey* Mosel Bay, &a. ** P l ' . bmill all ' bia l 1818 44.1 74 4 :: 114 Ibm tivie, weird *pia tithe Bed sod ad situates Jsmss's workhouse, where M sew swells the s fa. gush ars at Bee* load Minot, with the exeeptios of it C siog a 5 1 es g fis Od log los a. Do ter AT fol Yo 0 grf T i ! Ca Fl Of ko J. do 111 , St to of di A If tir A tt fr A ti 1 I I • ;11, it I r I