The Express. — London, England, 1850-07-05 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LOHl)S—Titrium.ti, Jrvr 4. Tu. ►OOO Bit as Avg Waled; Lad Lawamma sat Spasku. EXHIBITION OF LIM!. Lord CAMPBELL pemented • pstition from a Mr. Eiger. the proprista of mimes is Reunites Gore, com plaining of the *tory which the evesetion a the prop 'etd Tee haildiale in Hyde Park would id= es hi property. Jae male sad loused lord also pedaled a inn from Mr. ** Crimea whom he &moth= w ho a ha d jedge, ▪ purist lawyer, am d • ratio= who btil purchased me Of Mr. Elvis beaus. that gestleman's state. Lee! BROUGHAM alespressated • petit= from SO pro prietors of biases ts the Wig neighbourhood to the HMO JUDGMENTS (IRELAND) BILL. Os the m Mina of the Menai of Luestfineon, this bill was reed a third time. EDUCATION. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, is pursuance of a peeve ha pee on Teesdey evening, laid on the Wide the only resented paper of immense" relative to the minutes at the Committee of the United oa Relocation oa the subject of schools. He would take that opportuuity of enure that ia any obeerveins which he had made doing the dissension of this subject the ether night, he did not in. tend to east say reelection on the respeetable gentleman who had the sharp of the training school at Warrington. He wished also to correct an error which &prated in the public newspapets. He was represented to have said that one third or swarth pen of the population of Rutland limited of dissenters. He would repeat the qualified , n he then added, namely, that the disinters of Retied, in conjunction with the members of the Church of Se Oland, might amount to one-Worth of the whole community is Great Britain. THE LATE SIR ROBERT PEEL. The Marquis of LONSDO WNE.—SIy lords, 1 now, with the permission of your lordships, will for a few mo iler= ask your atteutica to a subject +Lich, I am sure, is present to all your lordahips' =lode and which will require that you should jo emit me fora short time to els= year atten tion, nth to ask you to deviate from the ordinary course of your proceedings so far as to hear me on a subject which is not before the house. It is quite Was that when we look around this house we do not feel the loss of any imp:riot person here. There is no great blink in this piece perceptible ; but we arc all made deeply swan of a loss which has occurred in an assembly with which we an connected by so many ties end relations, political and per sonal; sad, feeling as we do that we breathe and use the ante atmosphere, and being daily occupied with the same objects, no occurrence deeply affecting the interests and pro ceedings of that nimbly can do otherwise than 4:tend its ioflornee to your lordships house. (Hear, hear.) We all must be aware that to that assembly there has befallen • great calamity and agreat personal Ines, the weight of which has been deeply felt in that place ; and It would be extraor dinary indeed if the deep voice of sorrow which hes been raised there did' not find an echo within these walls. (Hear, hear) My lords, this is not the place, and this is aot the time to sit in judgment upon the political c odnet, upon the public scions of any great statesman, at the mo- meat that his presence is wittdrawn from us. The conduct of sny great public man, posteritati toreno se et trqd,tur, must abide the judgment of that i coterity, and the actions of one generation be sub mitted to the Judi/meet of another, perhaps better quali fied. beesuse father removed from the scene of those actior.s; sad thereby better enable.: to contemplate that asses and to survey it is all its testier and all sus results. Bet, my lords. there is one tribute which is due to the last =Mina sad Baal clew of a distiaguisheu public career, the value of which is important is proportion as it is iustaataneous—that is, the expression of public ft apathy— Of publie sympathy unasked, unsolicited, unsought fee from ell quest,ri and all etas es of soe:e y, attending, and I wi I could ad 1, cheerio, the dying moments of such a person. (Hear, hear.) That sympatl y, that feeling, unmixed with psual sentiments, I am oonvinced your lorosoips are no less disposed t:.an every other class of the community to ex• rem. (Hear.) My lords, fcr myJtlf I can only state, that it having been my butane from • prolonged lib to assist at the cum orneement and development of the career of him whoa I must now urfortneately c ill the late Sir Robert Peel, having witnessed his first exertions and the canntemensent of that c.reer of witith, is the ordinary coarse of nature and Luella even". I could not expect myself to en the close—l have for mon than forty years, pettaps mon than many others, bat certainly for a much longer time than many 0.12 M, been made &were of the aansoeitting seal exclusively devoted to public obj•tos, and diverted by no others, wi'h which the life al that eminent man has been dedicated to the unite of the state, brindle( to that envies the greatest and sat distianished tal—talents equally great and Ois. tiegtithed la balms' and debste—(hear, ltear)—and such baying been the case—each 41IntiOnS having byes entinned to the lar—it would be imposeible to witness the sudden and uneepeeted close to such a life, se employed, without that passing expressioa of sympathy. sorrow, and condo lean with which, I believe, all classes in this coun try, but more especially all those connected with its legislature and public proceedings, have witnessed an ev-ont which has steeped their hearts ia sorrow and ft Ed their minds with unavailing mon". (Hear.) My lords, I can say nothing more; what has been felt else. when must he felt here aed mast be felt thr.ughtu• the moactry, sad I ass persuaded myself that, however fotoly, I ban new only given vent to your lordships' feelings as well as to my ova, when 1 have endeavoured to show to the world that you wi:l sot suffer such • calamity, such a loss, to Wismar:len. (Hear, hear.) Load STANLEY—My lords, great as =doubted:7 is the putlic loss which Du been sustained, and deep and universal as is the sympathy which has been manifested by the whole matey at the calamity which has fallen upon it, I had cot eatic:peted that in this home, of which Sir Robert Peel was not a member, the noble marquis would have fel: it soceemry to have called for asy public expression of feeling, or even have adverted, as he has done, to that lamentable dream stele!. Bat as the noble marquis has adverted to the case, I =4 t sot deprive myself of the melancholy gratifi cauto of expreesin; how fully and entirely I partielpate and sympathise is those sentiments which have been so feel they expressed by the noble =snide. The noble marquis has truly said that this to time to critic= the public sets of a tothlie man saatched from his couatry in the very prime of lie, sad at a period when we might have reasonably ex pected tasty years yet rem tined to be devoted to the public service of those instabilities, of that uallincldag zeal, of that unwearied diligence welch were always at the envies of his country. Hear, hear.) It has been my fortune to have been at some periods opposed to, and at others to have been the colleting, the humble colleting, of the law Sir Robert Peel. It has been with deep re gret that during the last four years of his life I have been separated from him by a conscientious, I am sure, &t -hreat" of opinion on both sides, on important matters of domestic policy. But this is not the place to speak Of differences of opinion on such subjects; • great man—s great statesman has pats= away from amongst us by a sudden and inscrutable dispentatioa of providence—he has left in the other house—ha has left among his camper n —he has left in his country a great void. We are deprived of the services of a great, • powerful end laborious intellect, an uutlinchiag diligence in business, and an un sparing appliestion of all his best talent., of hie strength, his health, and of all his great powers to the envies of his country. (Hear, hear.) This, my lords, is the moment at which all political considerations should erase, and at which the most solemn feelings must Worms themselves on your lordships' minds of the vanity of all human hopes end ambition—of the instability of all those Wept upon which the destinies of nations hang ; and that ft is not =suiting to remember that we are in the hands of One who rules the destinies of the nations, by other than human laws, for ever. le.rd BROUGHAM hoped he mien he permitted to linger for a giggle moment on this painful Dubin, where no con tention or difference of opinion could exist. He had for to ears Dad the misfortune of being very generally opposed t Sir Robert Peel, but he had lived to acknowledge cheerfully and coaseintiously the splendid merits of that eminent man, and to he convinced that eves on those points on which they Ls t most widely differed the late lamented baronet had Wed from pore and conscientious motives. (Hear, hear.) The last stags of his political life had been chequered by feel ings most painful to an amiable, generous and honourable man because he differed from th ose with whom he had so long acted. He bad, however, from the purest feelings of public conduct adopted the thane which he had pursued, and he could turn from the storm without to the sunshine of en approving conscience within. Whether ha wen right or wrong, he had puteued that gonna which he firmly believed the interline of his country demanded, and is doing so he had made sacrifices, compared with which, all the sacrifices which had ever been exacted by a call of duty at the hands sf a public man sank Into pulse+ nothings's'. (Cheers.) The Duke of WELLINOTON (who was deeply affected, frequently shed tears, and was warmly audible in the gallery) was understood to gay that he mold not let the opportuaity pass without exporting his consumes= la what had fallen from the noble lords who had jest premed= him. He had long been acquainted with the late Sir Robert Peel, and had never 'eased to have the honour of rejoyiti his friendship durisg the whole course of that acqualawnes. A love of truth and a constant desire to promote the public service were the distinguishing features of his character. In the whole donne of his communication with him he had never had the slightest reason to name% that he bad ever stated anything which he did net firmly believe to be the fat. The aohle duke, after some farther observatioas, which were inaudible f ro m his deep emoitioa, concluded by expensing his gratification at the mintimeate whisk he had heard expressed, and Ia which he fully joined. TM Earl of LONSDALE knew the late Sir Robert Peel when at Oxford, end they had constantly monist= toge ther. In 11108 they had posted together free Oxford to Lon don to be preps= at the state trial of the late Lord Melville. lie had kw= his late lamented friend during the whole aubaequeat period of his life, :old nussidend him ems of the greaten °emanate the matey had ever produced—oho 4,1 the moat eminent and able 'itemise. (Hose. hem) The 'abject then dropped. Dana( its discussion the deep inter a whisk the house hit was manabsted by the most profound silent+ and attention, sad the sails= Meaner Is which the tokens of approval was agenda THE PROPOSED IaiIMMTION OF 1851. Lord BMA:A.IIIAM a.+ nee al brim leeward the motion of which he oposed gr an had given odes with raped hi the site of the prd repaid= of the ladah7 and manufactures of all cations la 1851. Ile woad almost offer a reward to fad say person not ea sated with the board er with the seausimiaters who would hesitate to eagles to the *Tatra peWiblo Lit astadshmeat at the penmeases with t=fis . e peemont site was cling to, sad his deep indigu den at the attempt about to be made to datecy the public away a the park. It might be said, " Why was sot this discovered earlier, and wanting sent to the commis earners beton they pro ceeded to adeertise for estimates, and all that ? " (Heer, hear.) Wail, he should admit the amesiesionerts had scathing to complain, that so long a time had bees suffered to elapse without the intuferento a aa. isdividual to put • stop to the damage likely to be infiorted spec property ia that quarter. W However, ke could not subject f t eay part of the ccomplaint,fur he had lug ap o —ease eight er to. weeks since—bromht the sub. jest before the cossideratioa of their loaships. (liar, friar.) Oa that Calaii3ll he stated his opinion without ro am or diegurte, but it was received with very contempt. (HA, se.) Indeed it was; aid he was held up as if he were a dossier sort of ihdividual, and the only person who held Mere strange and eccentric doctrines and opinions. (Lumb ar, and no, no.) Well, what was th e fact ? He set onl y did not st and slue, bat could net even disoover—except with fe w and rani exceptions—the least difference of opinion with that ante/tamed by himself a the subject. Could anything be more plain than this case 1 What right had ay persons on the men etiquette of peraiedon to erect a Mtge building in Hydt.park, the like of which had ant been undertaken—it' they Were to credit roper =tali:a—since the buildiag of the Tower of Babel, er the erection of the Pyramids of Egypt? (Great laughter.) 'ibis enormous building would cover 24 acres, and drag its unsightly length onr the verdure of t extent if the park. It would have an immense cupo la,a much larger one then St. Paul's ; and he wished to know what sight the commaioaers had to cut up the roads, snaking teem impassable for the iohabitaats to travel? (lieu.) Passing from the erection of the building and the anting up of the roads by carts and waggon, he had nest to gal attention to the tact of the erection of a large steam engine. But that was said to be nothing at all, because the smoke wool.' consume itself. (Laughter.) Bet he doubted that very much ; and, on the contrary believed that the ainisepttere ol the locality would b: derkeoed and vitiated by the discharges of smoke termagant on the erection of that seam engine. Now, ha celled ea thereto consider what would to theconsequeace of this exhibition. A countlese multitude would Useable; and that was looked upon by many, indeed by himself, as • matter of alarm, as involving the preserve- 1 tins of the public peace—but for that the government was answerable. (Hear, bear.) lie was tell that, in a financial point of view there were street difficulties as to the encase of the project, and it was rather ominous to observe the deverity with which the question of 'applies was met by the government. (Hear, hear.) When first asked if they would make up auy deficit by a vote, they repudiated all such idea, said the thing was purely a matter of individual speculation, with which tha governraent had no connexton, and for w hich they would consequently gnat no money. (hear, hear.) But gradually as they were questioned, their denials became thinner, until at last a supposition same to be entertained by the public ' that the public money would be requited—(lBu hear)—and he than awned th at it would and should be required. (Hear, hear.) They het fund of give ding thil mamas of other countries, &a would give them one. In Prance, for • trifling exposition which hal taken — trilling what compared with that which was to be hoad= is 1851 —a building of lath and plaster, cowering bar or five acres, was erected in the Champs Elpie at Paris, at • eat of 16,0001. N rtr the building to to erected in Hyde-park—Hi nes aside all comparison as regarded arc—would not be of lath and plaster, bat of brick and mortar and iron—a regular, aubstaatiel building, with an immense cupola, and which of erase would cost some twenty times the amount of the building in the Champs Elsie. It night he said there would be intimates, sad that the builders would be hound by them; but he thought their lordships had excellent experience of all that. it was said that 1,000 additional cowstabelary would bet required; but he (Lord Beougham) amazed that the number would be nearer 2 000 . , (He ar, Isar.) Again, it was urged that all this would be only for • few days. Indeed: But they should recollect their new castaway should be drilled and trained to be in resell aces, and for that purpose they should commence items di stely, at an expense of some 00,004. for LON men ad ditional, or 100,0001. fa 2,00.) men. (User, hear.) It had been said that " great crowds were attracted to London oar the occasion of the coronation ; '' but he recollected that the craw , were thee scattered Aa dispersed more or less, whilst during the exposition they were certain to converge on one point; and again, the coronation occupied only one day, whilst the exposition would extend over many maths. (liar, hear.) The next question that 100111 was as to the right; and strictly ?peaking the parks were vented in the crown, or rather ut the department of the Woods and Forest.. lie did not think it would be an easy matter for any board or cemaission to assert an exclusive claim to such property, to the exclusion of the public. When Georg:: II inquired of Sir Robert Walpole what the enclosure of the parks would cost, that sagnetous states man reo.ied it would feet him a crown. That war strong language in that day, and would be strong language in the present day. (Hear, hear.) One of the excuses nude was, that the budding would not be permanent, and that it was to be removed as soon as the necessity for it was at an end. But he doubted not that when once erected, its beautiful pillars, its graceful cupola, sad other architec • meal beauties and perfections, would find such favour in the 11341 of some, that exclamation", wen certain to he raised against the taking down of the pile. (" Hear, hear," and Wight's.) He had neobjectiontothe exhibition. Much good was likely to ario front it. Let the matter go on by all means, bet let not foreigners be told that it would be • breach of hospitality if the best park in the metropolis was not gives up for the purpose. But if the exhioitirn was not to take place except in Ilyde-park, he confessed that much as he regretted that such a result should lo.low, he would accept that alternative rather than it should take place in Hyde-park. The noble and leaned lord concluded by moving that the petition which had been presented a few nights ago by the aetue earl, and which was signed by Mr. Justice Croswell and other respectable indi viduals, should be referred to a select committee. Biel GRANVILLE defended the government and the royal commission. He pointed out the constitution of the amaisaon, containing, as it did, the represeutatives of the different shades of political ',palm in the country, and especially the late Sir IL. Peel, who had been present at a meeting at the commission a few hours hams the ac• idea happened to him, and who he (Ertl Granville) had die satisaction of thinking approved of the mode in whirl the exhibition was proposed to be carried out. The table and learned lord said that he ar e appr of the 'objects .'the exhibition. lie was bound to bele the noble and learned lord, bet he could not help thinking :that the noble lord stretched very considerably the practice a chaslising the child in the love he bore it. One of the royal parks war mentioned as early as July last in one of the public journals as an appropriate place for balding the exhibition; and the Times of October 18 stated that Hyde-park afforded peculiar advantages. It ccrtainly never struck the coamisuoners that it would be a recom mendation to the sits that it should be se much out of the way as possible, and in granting Hyde-park fur the purpose, they attached conditions which he believed would be for the public convenience in the sad. They did not intend keeping open the exhibition till November, as the noble and learned lord anticipated. When Hyde-park was selected, it was announced in all the public journals at home and abroad and in the colonies, and yet no expression of public discontent had bent raised. A letter had been received from Mr. Leslie setting forth some objections to the selection of II de-park, and suggesting Regent rook u a preferable site. That letter was referred te Ma Building Committee, but It was found l ike& some legal dlisralties existed which would prevent Re ' nea'irpsik boa hang selected. Besides, a committee of i 70 perms, who sepreseated the trade and manufactures of the 'mislay, approval of the site selected by the commis sioner,. A. noble seek the son of the noble marquis near him, suggested the disadvantage of Hyde-park, end offered mother three miles trona London. That again was retorted to the Building Committee, and they objected both to the distance and to the nature of the ground so offered. In April, two months after the site had ban announced, a requisition woe sent to the rector of Chelsea, calling him to convene a public meeting to approve of what the commie-I simian had done. That requisition was aped by GOOs and commoners of the parish, and amongst them he foun pies end commonsrs of the parish, and amongst them hs bend the name of the lion. William Carupbell, so that, up to that time, his noble and learned friend behind him had not laculeated on his son those constitutional alarms to which he gave ar.pnesion that evening (Laughter.) He admitted that matters had changed within the last two weeks, and as moos as the royal commissioners became sails re of the existence of that change, they were anxious to consult on the subject, and to see if they could get out of the diffi culty, lest this feeling on the part of a portion of the public (although they did aet think it founded in reason) should prove injurious to the undertaking. Thai immediately re fined the subject to the Building Committee, which was composed of three eminent engineers end three architects, whose names were well known to their lordships, and they reported that the effect of adopting another site now would probably render it impossible to complete the balding within the time specified, and that any change of its whith would necessitate a change of plan would be tantamount to a poettooneneat of the exhibition for another year. (Hear, hear.) The sable and learned lord &eked for a com mittee to gadder the question, bat he believed that the comenimiciaen were as capable of coning to a right decision as an committee of that beim. The nabs gad learned lor d dwelt ea the inconvenience which Ws exhibition would be to the inhabitants who dwelt sees Hyde•park, and to that portion of the public who were is the habit of taking navels, on horeebsek la Rotten row, bed who woad be debarred la consequence of this ex abials Elm that Net of exerobe which they . enjoyed diet Ike isle of the op. He believed that his noble and learned ki tes l a t i bi lr a Nsmt ar r 8 misa pp sous rehension to pei lte s iV ou o . Open. t h at point. i r conventionalise likely to arise on tat . g roun d ne i was autheilled le sate that the Commissioners of Weeds sad Forests one asaihrelap what would be the beet mods of affording alie to the riding public of Ludo. The resident, Is the pub were very well represented in that house by thins of their lordships who had dwellings thou ; and he bilkseed that the objections which they really felt were theft midi bad boa ateatioaed by the noble sad learned lord. The Mot was as to the traffic. On this sub ject ha woa/d rather trust the o pilau of the three moat maltreat eagiaesn la the eootry than the estimate of the noble sad leaned lord. Their estimate was that the whole six oaths' Who torsatioed by the conveyance of saaterbb sad goods to the site would not seised the edam amount el three wake general talks oar any ON if THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, JULY 5, 1850. the principal thoroughfares leading to say of the large milosy statioos. (Hear.) Hs awaited that un a alarm had Imes ensiled * _the inhabitants of E. ridge by *e speallestka• whisk had been issued by the Balding Commeitim. Tba inmeumiedg the con. missiesses to the build*, Wesel* that they should erects building . se es esissW as wad possibly be done la enaionnity with the object in view. The committee bad coma tO the conclusion that it was *livable to use a more durable material than mere lath and plaster, and bad justi , fled that conclusion is their repeat. As to the v r e zeed demo,whieh had ideated mmeidesuble alarm is se sons' Weds, he believed he taught repeat what was GUM him is a very bed paa, by • friend that morning, that " it was doomed." (Hear, hear.) Attar the alum whisk had been excited 1 y the proposal to employ bricks and mortar in the ceestrution of the heaths , he, se on individual commissioner, skald eert y op pose its adoptioa, even U they were obliged to use a worse material. It was possible, also, that means might be band to diminish the slued the buildiag, and consequently its cost. Another objection wee founded en the number of special constables that would be reader* Rosemary, by the extraordinary crowd of persons collected in Hyde-nark. This, he bedeved, had been much overrated. lie had been informed that at the Agricultural Society's shows, where perhaps 12,000 people were brought together, from 20 to 30 extra policemen were all that were required. People who lived in the metropolis were familiarised with crowds, and he did not anticipate that the crowd in Hyde-park ceased by the exhibition would be very much greater than the gatherings frequently emu in the metropolis. He implored their lord- ships not to refer this question to • saw committee. After a few weeds from Lord BRoucestut and Lord On ex glum acres the table, Earl GREY said that the notice of the noble and learned lord wee merely that he would call the attention of the house to the subject—not that he would move for it, refer ence to a select committee. When a notice was given in that form, it wee ales)e understood not to be the intention of the morn. to Mir:Audi matter which might mute e difference of opinion ; sad it was the laverieble prefabs', out of sommon courtesy, when • modes wee to be made was likely to be opposed, for notice to be given of that mo tioo. (Hear, bear.) Lord Ditottogam said a few words mom the table. Lord CAMPBELL said he should support the mo tion, if it were pressed to a division. lie should hare preferred • arnica for a humble address to her Majesty, praying that the proposed erection in Hyde-park might not be farther sanctioned. He blamed no one for what had been done hitherto ; but if, after the matter was fully understood and the lamentable consequences pointed out, the project wee not abandoned, some one would be very mach to blame. He approved of the exhibition generally, and of the appointment of com missioners ; he only regretted that they had not exercised a little more discretion and foresight. Their report showed that the probability of the exhibiting interfering with the comforts of the rendeats in ilyde.perk bad never entered their minds. He thought it quite possible to find a better site. He Mould regret were the exhibition to be aban doned ; but he thought that would be preferable to taking possession of Hyde-park, and depriving the public of what they bad so Inge enjoyed. Lord BROINHAM said that after what had been inti mated by the noble earl apposite (Ore') be should not press his motion to a division. The noble and learned lord, after some remark., presented a petition from inhabitants of St. Oeorge'e, Harover-square, against the exhibition taking place in Hyde perk . Lord ILEDESDALE said he regretted the choice of site that had been made, and hoped that the matter would be farther considered by the goverament. After a few words from the Earl of LONSDALE to the same effeet, Earl FITZWILLIAM said if the exhibition interfered with the enjoyment of the park in one way, it would add to it in another. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of ELLENBOKOLIG 11l said that after looking at the plan of toe buildtug, and cusidering the liability to fire, he was induced to hope that all the resources of art for putting oat fires would form part of the exhibition. (Lauglrer.) The mottos was then withdrawn. Mein setts from the Commons brought up several METROPOLITAN IN I:EIiNIENTS BILL. This bill was referred to a stlect committee op stairs, eater n short diseueeion, in which the Earl of Carliale, Lord Brougham, toe Marl of Etienborough, sad the Bishop of London, took part. The bill was accordingly referred to s select committee. BENEFICES PLURALITY BILL. Lord LYTTELTON, in moving the second reading of this bill, said he had been requested to take charge of it by those who had conducted it through the House of Com mons. The bill did not allow a plur tidy where oW:ice of the livings was worth more than 1001. He thought that pluralities should be allowed where suc of the livings was of a greater value. The Bisheip of LONDON said he and his right reverend brethren acquiesced M the general principle of the bill, but they sheuid have certain amendments to propose in com mittee. The Bishop of SALISBURY expressed some dissatiafic tion with the scanner in %kith the till had been introduced into the other house, and also with the partial chaster of its provisions. After a few words from Earl Puwes and the Lord LYT. TLLTON the bill was read a second time. THE METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS AND GE NERAL BOARD OF HEALTH BILLS. On the motion of the Earl of CARLISLZ, these bills were referred to select committees. LARCENY SUMMARY JURISDICTION BILL. The Earl of CHICHESTER proposed the woad reading of this bill. It did not propose to effect any change in the law which could be in any sense prejudicial. The bill was then read a second time. To be commAted on Thurs lay. Their lordships then adjourned, at ten minutes after nine o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TiItIngDAT, JULY 4. The 8 took the chair at 12 o'clock. TEL DEATH OF SIR R. PEEL, DART. After the despatch of some private business, Sir U. GREY rote and said—Now that ail the pri vate business has been disposed of, I wish to move that the consideration of the ening of tne day be p •o•poned until the afternoon. I regret that the bran should have been out to any icconvenience by this early meeting to-day, those orders having been filet' se vend days ago for consideration ;1 tit my noLle friend, the First Lord of the Trk&Slirr, is anxious to take the first opportucity of the house meeting—(here the right hon. baronet bent down his head, and paused for some moments, being evidently moved to towel—and before any public business is proceeded with, to express the feelings which he, is common with every mem ber of this house, and the whole country, enter tains with reference to that lamentab:e occurrence which has recently takes place; and be is particularly anxious that he should be enabled to do so when there io a full a•tendence in the house; and I have, therefore, to ask the house, it having now been constituted, to separate at once, and that you, sir (addressing the Speaker), should tali" the chair at half-put four o'clock, when my noble friend will be in hie place. If the house agrees to that motion, I hope so discussion with reference to it will now take plate. (Rear, hear.) I have only one word more to add, and that is to sapless my deep regret, and to apologise to the house for the anay.idable absence of my noble friend, who was not present yesterday, to concur with the house most sincerely in that most appropriate mark of respect which the house unsni. nosily adopted to the memory of that great man who has been removed from us by the painful and mysterious dispen sation of Providence. The motion was immediately agreed to, and the house adjourned until half-past four o'clock. The house again met at half-past 4. Minimum BILL.—By Mr. MASTERMAN ;several), from places in the city of London, in lac -ur of this bill. Jaws' PARLIMIIIITAXIC OATH BILL.—By Mr. MAS TERMAN, from a parish in the city of London; the Illescluis of DOURO, from Norwich ; Mr. NE WDEGATE (soveral), from places in Warwickshire, Northumberland, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Rutlandehire, Somerset, Worcester, Gloneester. Orfordshire, Norfolk, Kent, and Surrey ; Mr. FULLER (3;, from places in Sussex ; Mr. ROBERT PALIAKR, from a place in Berko; Mr. EOU N DELL PALMER (5), from Plymouth and other places; Mr. SPOONER (3), from places in Warwickshire ; Sir R. 11. INGLIS, from place in SOH; Rises, end Suffolk; Mr. ADDERLEY. from Biddelplt„. Mr. DUPRE (8), from places in Buokienhamshire • Mr. BRISCOE, from rector and parishioners of Oro, SWINK :Mr. FLOYER.(2), from Dorset. shire; Mr. PLU MP TILE (5), from plaus in Kent, and from Sokewak• Donst ; Colonel TREVOR (4), from places in South Wiles ; against this bill. Poer-orrice.—By Mr. KUNTZ, from the mayor and corporation of Birmingham; Mr. S IIAFTO ADAIR, from Cambridge; Sr G. STAUNTON, from a pleas in Hemp shire ; Mr. ELLICE, from Coventry ; Sir ROBERT PRICE, from Mayor do., &a, of Hereford ,• against the recent Post-ofßes ventilations. Mr. TENNE I4T, from Pree• bowl= congregations of Belfast, against the transmission ' of letters on Sandals. Mr: FLOYER, from Haselbury, Does*, praying that du recent postal regulations may have • fair trial. - Mr. ADDERLEY, from Stone, against Sunday labour. ... - 137;ixos Rums BILL.—By Mr. STANTON. from Clamors Savings Bask, Stroud; Mr. FLOYER, from three branches of the Dorset County Primarily Society; against outran clauses of this bill. DEATH OF SIR ROBERT PEEL. _ Os Wagtail up the report of the __. great exhibition, with regard to the sit., Lord JOIIN RUSSELL rose and mid :—Mr. Speaker, in moving that them papers do lie upon the table, I will oak the house to allow me to take this opportunity of mingling my voice of sorrow with that of the house in general for the great lose which this house and the country has sustained. iil s ar, e , hear.) Sir, at the first contemplation of that mil it is impossible not to be overcome by a feeling Of atm that one who eo late se Friday night last informed this home by his judgment, and took a part which became him in one of the most important discussions of the year, should have become mingled with the dead, and that not by attacks of disease overcoming nature, bat by one of Mom 00.1O1.01:1 mi l oa t o by I rbil* we are apt to think that a life so gifted would hardly be taken from us. Sir, in mashie, of that greet man it is impomible not to rodent that hereafter this how will sot be guided by that long and large experience of p aw gum, by that profound knowledge, by that ors tonsil power, by that copious yet exact memory, by whisk it was wont to be enlightened, instritotod, and guidod. It is not for ins, or for this home, to speak of the career for the of Sir Robert Peel. It sever happened to me to be fa pointed mamba with him ; bat, so late se that lot Mats le whisk I hays alluded, I seek enemies to thank bin illielhat fait sad frank sonnet which he had glees to ' the , Mead goversatent. (Hoar, heat.) Sir, Sir Robert No, is that elleisah which preceded the one that I addressed th the hew, Is spooking against the policy of the govern neent,epoke with such temper, with such forbearance to. wards all theft who might hold en opposite opinion ao Liu that it must be a satislastima to those who remain that his last act should ban Less one of such candour and each kindness to all who wen wound him. (Chan.) There can, I think, be no doubt that, however history may deal with the wisdom of the course he pursued, it will be ad mitted that upon two great amaeures, when le held power undisturbed and almost without a rival, end when he pro posed measures to this house which shock, and after a time subverted his party, he did so from those motives of deep love to his country which ever distinguished him. (Hear ' beer.) Sir, of those outdoes I shall not speak ; but then is one part of his career in which I wu most deeply concerned, of which I may be allowed to speak, becaute I feel it due ha him to pay a tribute which perhaps has not hitherto been paid to his deserts. I allude to the period which elapsed from 1893 to 1841. After the croatests which took place oa the Reform Bill it was to be dreaded that those who had opposed that bill, expiating results from it calemitous to the country, might retire in disgust from public life, and thereby leave a war of dusts to be curled on which would have inflicted permanent injury on the country. I cossider Sir Robert Peel to hays been the man who prevented such a war from taking place. (Hear, hear.) Although he had opposed the Reform Bill, yet he addressed himself manfully to the situation in which he was placed. He appealed to the country on behalf of the principles of whith he was the most eloquent defender, brought back the various powers of the state into harmony, and showed him self not afraid to abide by the verdict of the people upon the measures nod principle, of which be was the advocate. (Cheers.) 1 consider that great service was rendered by him on that oceasion. Beyond all this lam bound to consider that a man so gifted, having the means of keeping aloof from the struggles, the contentions, and the labours of poll tieal life, and having likewloe a love of literature, and a taste ler art which might well have given bim a happy life apart from all such contests—l say lem bound to consider that the example of such a man devoting himself to labour ant to infiiiite toil for the sake of the benefit of his country, is en temple that ought not to be hot, and which I hope I will not be lost on the puede of this country. With this feeling, sir, I wish to say, that if it should appear to the late friends of Sir R Ascii feel, that it was desirable to take that course which was token on the death of Mr. Pitt without wishing to proceed now to any motion or decision on such • subject, I, for my own part, should give ray willing support to any motion fur tiring a public funeral to Sir It. Peel—(bar)—cr if it should be thought that the example which was taken with respect to the funeral of Mr.Cl rattan, should be followed in this instance, I would feel it my duty to give my concurrence to such a course. As it would be considered right to obtain the sanction of the crown before any such proposal should be made, I must say that I feel assured that anything which could do honour to the memory of Sir Robert Peel, and which would add a tribute to his fame, would be immer'i. ately sanctioned by the 'dent of the crown. (Hear, he .r.) I only wish thereto* in concluding these few words, to ray that I glace myself in the hand., and rest completely nn the decision of the friends of Sir It. Peel, and that I think that, as I have had no political cool , ciao with hies, this proposal may, perhaps, come more fitly from me as net being one who is move d by any feelirg of partiality on the subject ; and I must also add, that I do feel that this country, and net posterity hereafter, in recx .ning up the names of the eminent statesmen that have adorned the annals of this country, and have contributed to her lustre, will mention the name of Sir Robert Peel among the first of them. (liter, hear.) Mr. COULBURN, who seemed deeply affected, and spoke in such a 1 rw tone as to be almost wholly inaudible, was underetoui to say that he was sure that the house would not c r.eider it unnatural or unbecoming in him, if, after what had :Allen from the noble lord, he, tete had the advantage of being connected with Sir Ro bert l'e'd in the most intimate bonds of friendship for over forty years, and who had been selected by him as one of those who were to carry into effect Lis dying wiehe', and who was authorised by his family to a:peen their feelings, were to address a few words to the huuee. (neer, hear.) lie did not rise with any view of adding to the testimony of his ability in his public capacity which had been given by the noble lord—indeed it would be . impossible for Lin to add anything to the testimony which he hod been, us to the conduct of Sir Robert Peel as a public men, end, if he were to enlarge on hue qualities, the occurrence which had given rise to these feelings was too recent to admit of such an object, gad the tongue would for bear to utter what the heart felt. (Hear, hear.) Ile rose merely to shores§ to the noble lord and to the house the feel ns of the friends and the family of Sir Robert Peel with respect to the proposition which the noble lord auggested He lac :purl it on their pert with feelings of the deepest gratitude at the acknowledgment of the g.acious disposition id the crown to a subject, and as a recognition of the merits of a great public servad. (Hear, hear.) He accepted the offer of a public funeral es the highest tribute which the House of Commons cool i pay to any individual, no matter what may have loon the extent of his Unite'. Be Mt deeply on the subject, and he spoke in his own behalf and that of the family of Sir Robert Peel when he accepted with gratitude the honour which had been paid by such a proposal. (Hear, hear.) lie might also he permitted to state another thing —name l y , that thou who were unocqusinted with Sir R. Peel co uld have but little idea of the simplicity of his character, which added a grace to all his other neveire stunts. 11 there ever was a man peculioily distinguished by a desire to avoid pomp and ostentation that individual was Sir R. Peel, and I that pomp and ostentation he particularly repudiated in eases connected with funerals. At a very early period of his connexion with Sir R. Peel this feeling had been repeatedly expressed, and Sir It. Peel continued to hold it during the remainder of Lis career. But perhaps the house might not think it into , eistent with his merits if he (Mr. Goulburn) were to give them the opinion of Sir It Peel on this matter, as privately expressed. He had the means of satis fying the house on the subject, and would read to them an injunction, which he signed on the Ath of May, 1811, at a time when ho was in the full plenitude of hie power, when he was at the head of a large party in that house, when he brought forward a merlin the rssutt of which had crowned his efforts with success„to a degree which went beyond the expectation of his friends, rod when any man might he tempted by a desire of renown. The paragraph. repressing these feelings was as follows t "I de. sire that I may be interred in the vault in the parish church of Dratton Bassett, in which my father and mother are interred, and that my funeral may be without os tentation or parade of any kind." Nor did these sentiments undergo any alteration since that period, fur six weeks since, when alterations were being made in that pnticuler church, Sir Robert Peel pointed out to Lady l'eel the very spot in the vault in which he wished and trusted that his body would be laid, without the parade and rote ntati in which he alway deprecated, cod the absence of which he so touch ad mired and approved of in the case of the funeral of the Queen Dowager. Under these circumstances, therefore, he was sure that the house would feel that it had a duty to fulfil to has family who had but one feel ing to express, namely, that of thankfulness in' acknowledging the intention of her Majesty and par liament to confer on him as he bad before stated, this the greatest honour that could be paid to a subject by the douse of Common., and he further wished to say on their 'I behalf that they were compelled to decline the proposition ' which had been made, and that it was satistactury to theta all I to have this tribute of respect paid to him whom they admired, respected, and loved. He would ask the house to pay a far they mark of respect to his simplicity of character by allow ing his friends to adopt the manner in which he wished his remains to be interred. He felt that the house would readily comply with the wish which he had expressed, sines by recording their sense of his merits by an instanttheous adjournment of the house oa the moment of hearing of his death, they had done him an honour which would live for ever in the journals of the house. Under these circumstances it was that he threw himself on the in. dulgencs of the house, which he was sure would feel that he was actuated by nothing else than a sense of the deepest gratitude, and he trusted that they would not enforce what would nut be in accordance with the feelings of the friends and family of Sir It. Peel, and that as the wound was so recent and their feelings so strong, the discussion of the sub ject should riot he proceeded with. Mr. HURRIES, who wu still more inrudible than the right bon. gentleman who had just eat down, was under stood to say that his reason for venturing to mattress the hones was that he was at one time connected with a great political party of which Sit It. Peel was the bead. From the time of his entering parliament until he ceased to hold a seat it was his fortune to be intimately connected with Sir R. Peel. Oa his return, however, to that house he was de cidedly opposed to measures of the greatest magnitude and the deepest importance. Notwithstanding that opposition, not the slightest disturbances took place in their personal friendship, and in the salmon which he held fur his character. (Hear.) It would be vain, indeed, in him, if he were to attempt any eulogy or panegoric on the character of Sir It. Peel ; he rose only to add his tutimony to the wavered ex pression of admiration and respect in which he wee held by all patties,—(heat)—and to express what he believed, and, he might say, he confidently knew, to be the feelings of thou with whom he (Mr. Berries) now acted, by eluting, that no reminiscence of diversity for one moment mingled with their sentiments of the profoundest regret at the mournful acci dent which had deprived this country of the most eminent statesman of the day, and the House of Commons of its most distinguished ornament. (Hear, hear.) The subject than dropped, and the report was ordered to lie on the table. THE SHERIFF OF WESTMORELAND BILL. This ball was reed a third time. BUSINESS OF THE SESSION. Lord J. RUSSELL said that he stated the other day that the debate.% the foreign policy of the government having made a tillierenee of tan days Is the progress of the business of the session, he would on this day name the bills which he proposed to goon with in the present session of parliament. Re thought it quite a reasosable proposal to make, that when bills had not bees a lung time before parliament, and had not csosived sufficient discussion, thy should not be mint up to the other house of parliament at a late period of the melon. That ob jection, however, was not applicable to the measures relating to the revenue ; he might, therefore, say that his right bon. friend the Chansellor of the Exchequer would premed with the Stamps Bill when he could Sad a day for that purpose. It was part of the financial statement of the year. The next bill was ono of great importance in favour of the principle of which the home had already decided by a very considerable majority, he meant the bill For the abolition of the Lord- Lieutenancy of Ireland, but itwss evident fr om what occurred lately in the Howe of Lords that there would be a good ' duel of dinged's as go the mode in whirl the power to be exercised by the arms should be exercised in Ireland, and that discussion mull bring them to so late a period of tho present math that the bill could not reach the other house of parliament belore the beginning of August. That would be too late a period to propose so very large a change in their accustomed mode of goveruleg Ireland. He did not. therefore, mean to proceed further with the hill this session. There was another bill with regard to Ireland to which there was much objection, the Security for Advances (Ireland) Bill. That he did not propose to proceed with this session. The Ecclesiastical Cemmiesioners Bill had lately been boron the House of Lords, and was brought en a few days age. He proposed to go oa with that on Monday next, as he hoped to be able to legislate on that matter during the pre sent stmion. The Mercantile Marine Bill would also he proceeded with. And he propeeed that the house should sit on Monday next at 12 o'clock for the purpose of proceeding with it. He did not thick that the Merchant Seamen's Bill could be proceeded with this session. The Woods and Forests Bill, a bill for the re arrangement of that department, he did not propose to pro ceed with, as it would require some alteration in its details though not in principle. He proposed that alter Monday next they should proceed with the votes in supply ; and that the Friday, Monday, and Friday following be devoted to that purpose. As he had often stated that great Inconveni. 'nee arose from their protracting the session of parliament to a time when it was necuary for many members to leave town for the benefit of their health, he now thought it was advisable that they should only take those bills which had received some discussion, and which were likely not to bring them to a very late period. (Hear.) The Railway Audit 8.11 was one which he thought would not be proceeded with. Ile meant to go en with the Parliamentary Oaths Bill on that day fortnight. He propo cd to proceed with the Chari table Trusts Bill some mnrniag next week. SAVINGS BANKS BILL. In SIISWer to Mr. DI4RAISLI, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it was Lot th. it intention to proceed further with this bill. LANDLORD AND TENANTS DILL. In answer to Mr. 11. Eggnog; Lord J. RUSSELL said that it wu the intention to carry this 1:01 through during the pre<ent session. It wu neces sary that it should receive some discussion, end Le therefore propos►d that it should be brought to a steond reading. It was merely intended u the foundation of some future MERCANTILE MARINE BILL. In answer to Lsrd J. MANNIRS, Id'. LABOUCII ERE said that it was his intention topro. ceed with ;his bill this session, and that next session he would bring in a bill for the consolidaton, or for the consolidation and ocaes.dinsnt of the merit e cede. FRIENDLY SOCIETIES BILL. In arswer to Mr. SOTIIERON, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sn'tl that it was impossible for him to name a day on which they could take this bill at twelve o'clock. RAILWAYS ABANDONMENT BILL (LORDS). Mr. LOCKE wished to know weather there was any objection to withdraw certain clauses in this bill, as he un derstood the railway pieties who were instrnmentsl in intro ducing this bill were moat anxious that it should be carried our. It contained so many provisions as to the mansgement of rail-rsys, that if it could not be proceeded with duric4 the remit session, he asked whether the right hoe. gentleman would allow the bill to be proceeded with, striking out the climes which the government Lad intro dated t Mr. LABOUCHERE was not aware whether the hill could be taken up. He could not tic:mound a bill which was considered se objectknable. Mr. LOCKE simply asked whether there was any objec tion to slow the bill to proceed. Mr. LAMM:of sues answer did no' reach the gallery. MERCANTILE MARINE BILL. Mr. CARD WELL esid that it would be his ditty to morrow to mike a communication to the right bon. gentle win (Mr. Lebouchere) on thi." subject. He hoped there would be a perfect agreement ; but if alterations should be mad, he should pies notice of "hem tc-murrow. As to who; the hon. member for Ilonit.n had said as to the railway bill, he hoped the hon. gentleman would not postpone it till such time as would render the bill impossible to be proceeded with. - _ . _ . An Hos. Myelin, observed that it had been withdrawn altogether. He. CARDWELL—Ahheugh it had been abandoned it might be the interest of the shareholders to take up the hill which had b-en introduced by Lord Stanley, the provi sions of which were in conformity with this bill. He hoped the noble toed would not defer the bill bevond Monday next. PROPOSED EXHIBITION IN HYDE I'.IRK. Colonel fiII:THORP moved that the report respecting' the proposed exhibition in Hyde-park be referred to a select committee, and that the sanction of the home be given to I such report Wore any further steps should be taken by the commissioners. In a long apeecn the colonel ass eiled the choice of the 'wieldy, the law as laid down by the Attorney- General, the exhibition itself, and the encouragement now adays given to foreigners. Mr. ALCOCK seconded the motion. Sir B. HALL had be-n solicited to oppose the selection of Hyde-park, but had declined to do so, because the lt-gent's-park, a locality in which hie constituents wore much more interested, might be chosen if Hyde-park were ahao , loned. But as he understood that the commissioners had given up all idea of the Regent's-park, he was ready to oppose the Hyde-park scheme. He therefore moved that an address be presented to her Majesty, praying that no build ings might be permitted to be erected in Hyde-park. Sir. RICE spoke in answer to Sir B. Hall. Mr. STEPHENSON, as a practical man, showed from statistics that the inconveniences apprehended wete greatly exaggerated, and then contended that to alter the locality wou.d be to jeopardise an exhibition to which we were pledged to the civilised world, and far which the world was preparing. Mr. A. J. B. HOPE spoke (at considerable length, and amid the marked impatience of the house) against the locality at present selected. /dr. III:ME expressed a warm opinion in favour of the proposed exhibition, and complained of the paltry and selfish character of the objcetions. Mr. LABOUCHERE said that all the objections to the plan had been most satisfactorily answered, and that to dis turb the proposed arrangements, in deference to the exagge rated fears at persons unwii:ing to iccur the slightest tisk of incoavenience for the greyest public object, would be to compromise ourcharacter in the eyes of Europe. He opposed the motion en the ground that the question had been most completely examined by as good a committee as could pos mo:y be selected. He remarked that the indulgence of the cm en in recently opening the Prince of Wales' Gate was being unworthily returned by opposition to the exhibition on I the part of those especially benefited by that gate. He con cluded by stating his belief that if toe exhibition were 'Lowed to take place in Hyde-park, its financial FUCCtall , would be complete, but he said that he could not answer for I such a resift if the locality were altered. Mr. B. OSBORNE said that it was only on the recon sideration of the report that the commissioners had given any attention to the suggestions made to them as to other places than Hyde-park. He strongly advocated the selection of the Regent's-pack, and stated that Mr. Justice Creswell had I given a decided opinion against the legally of the Hyde park erection. Mr. GLADSTONE disclaimed, on the part of the cone mission, any desire to dictate upon the subject, but said that those who were opposing the present plan must be answerable to those who were interested in the matter for destroying the fortunes of the exhibition. It was paltering and playing with words, to invite the world to exhibit its industry ' in London," and then to send them five or six miles from Lon don, to Battersea or elsewhere, as had been proposed. Sir DE LACY EVANS supported the opinions of the opponents of the Hyde-park locality. Mr. STANFORD advocated further impairy, and pre dicted that the country would ultimately have to pay for the exhibition. Mr. DU NCOMBE thought Hyde-park an excellent site, and the best that could have been selectee!, and he thought the objections to it very trivial and cavilling, and founded on misconception. Lard D. STUART thought that there ought to be a clowe investigation of the subject, as there was so much difference of opinion as to the legality and advisability of the selection that had been made. Mr. J. STUART objected to the question being pressed to a division at present, but thought that every protection ought to be extended to private rights. He proposed ad journment. Lord R. GROSVENOR said that no great object could be obtained without some sacrifice, and the one now de manded was very small, compared with the advantages which would accrue to this country from the exhibition. Sir H. WILLOUOHBY thought the law others of the crown ought to be more explicit as to the legal position of the matter. Lard J. RUSSELL said the question before the house was not a legal question, but whether or not they should offer any advice to the crown with regard to the ez• hibition of 1351, as desirous of taking care of the rights of the public. Let Lhasa who considered their private rights to be infringed make any application they pleased to a court of law ; that was a matter in which the house had no concern. With respect to the question which they had to decide, he was happy to think that the discussion had not been without its use, and to perceive, as he thought he did, that the house had very nearly come to a conclusion cn the subject. (Hear, hear.) He thought he did not misrepre sent the sonic of the house when he said that he thought they ware anxious that no permanent building , and no building with a very enormous dome should be erected in Ilyde-park, and that every care should be taken not to injure the trees which were so great an ornament to the park. (Hoar, hear.) Thera were but one or two remaining points on which be wished to remark. It bad been repre sented, as he thought under a misapprehension, that the commissioners had, in a very arbitrary manner, come to • conclusion that the exhibition should either take place in Hyde park, or should not take place at all, bemuse the house wished to act contrary to their opinions and advice. Now that was not the position which the commissioners bad assumed. The truth was, that the commissioners having considered various sites, came to the conclusion towards the end of February, that Hydepuk was the best one for the Purpose. They immediately made their decision known, and a report was circulated, not only in this country but in all other countries, that the Exhibition was to take plus in Hyde-park. Some time after plans and drawings were prepared, and the 00111111i1- @loners issued proposals for a building in the park. After `all this had been done, it was too late in the month of July aro determine that the Exhibition 'Mould be in any other plum thin In Hydo-park. At the meetings of the commis ignore, able architects and builders were examined on the point, and the whole of the cusatieelowe ff the Exhibition was not to be fn ta" al give up all hope of having any tPalk re t t • iit a to ft aa , ct tart cmantry in 11151. The oth er poi.,t tet.4l lw wished to allude wu that of t h e to ba made. On the me hand the eabi'oltion issonvenknce to vine levelly or eighty oceui,,,rt iva; near the spot and to the rider s In Itottcnirow, „ e tte that sue he believed there might be c ompeat the other hand, no other sacrifice would be to that to whieh the working clarces of this m ute , . 41 7 subjected If those of them who lieu! eb4 h a d to petform journeys fire or air re., ee , 'a London, vb. tier by railway or otherwie., and •as whole day, it thole who came front seri the country to the metropolis were ohligcd to lakt journey, in order to see the exhibition, the:, L: thrown upon teem, la the first place, an oie:ay met ,. and, in the secoor, sacrifice of tue, which tli• ill able to afford. It was, therefore, the totermt • • rity that the exhitition should take place in nal originally contemplated. He hoped th ., Isiut assent to the aaj - .ornment of the debate, but g et the , toe ; settled. Hear, h.4r.) An lion. wiebed to know whether the ',i. of the exhibiti - vi tekirg pinee in y'e-pt.k t, e • the pork would be open to crinveyeacci that it lasted ' Lard J. RUSSELL said that be could h to answer that Tuition; the c4nnii.i ;droos of giving ail practicable accoanvcoeri..... Sir S. HALL said that after what tad tt, noble lord, and considering—fint, that the i „ be of a temporary character, and, aec-mar, th, to be no demand for public mosey, ; 4 withdraw the anter.dniect. (that, hear.) The SPE &KIER. than put the quests , . t`.• sent he withdrawn, which was 0t... It:•h r " No." Colonel 8111THORP should fe.d :t sense, even of the House of Commons, I. g:iia.t (Lsughtero The house divided, For Sir B. Hall's amendment Against it The house immediate.y afterwards SIIITHORP's moque, when there isppelr. For the motion .. Against it EDUCATION GRAN L. On the motion for bringing up the it-;•.i.• the further consideration of the reirdu: r. u. education. 111;:iV: MILES objected to a (pistil-, brought hirwaid at each a late hoe. nt VI. The CHANCELLOR of the EV.,11,,',c1 shGuld be c uotd. red that thig a. 4 a Int sion, and, if smell weavers were L A hours, the orderaw-uld Di c.r be dot thrc.44,.. Mr: lIENLEY concurred in tit to proc-en with it. Mr. ULADSIONE dil awl t...t with it simply on the grcar.d of ..11 ; et. 4 . was an maple ditcaseion of the su: jr.:. fr Sir G. GREYurged the necessity of 'heir one* with it. Mr. MILES celled attention to the m ete that prevailed as ennead church el e;ia eye to which his attemion had been first coo 4 ...i • of the ',sago of 1511. Let it not c • -;' •oe not an *den in for the laity in . ( eerier in!% of church schools se well is the cl.oze. At , the system that prevailed. the maeigers 000 poiutment ef the schoolmasters, and no .!am place except sate honed and approve : .y t. However, he should state that on sees.ows ,t appeal lay to the bielt wt. Pa. in such rases to dismiss 1010. bate I difficulty was to say where pongee:, reel. and secular education commenced. he . Mr. : not what clauses were introduced into the • . they were not of a compulsory :.ature. 11. . to aseettain the numbsr of h that . • government grant. distirguisbing thole th..; • from those tout had net revived it, as refused it. However he had cot had the joe• . those several numbers. In the petitions wo. . seated to the house, what was riquireil wee. , in the management of the schools ; they woe , possible, the management of the goerrnmie• • called the attention of the house to the tact th • • education required was good bite-oil co,. ...• kuowledge of the geography of Palestine. .:. emelt the toligious education of the schor.:3 .•, rule " that no student woull be r. qu. . • any religious formulary to which he • . ligious objection. " And yet this was le schools in which schoolmasters were te be t.. administra ion ce p . .uper educatieh in the w........• the education of criminal youths. Sir G. GREY Paid that it wee the duty • • and of the government repro tnting ohe trusted with the management of these luttos, mead ample security for the due management of ad the schools. The gust not felt then-It:ores qudin•d to inter:. re is. way whatever with the nature of rolidious intoru .ti h . E tio d n uc t e o tion si;e w in these schools. A correspondence had taken p.a..e •• the National Commetee and the Committee of C hidlatter been e ts:l o every e. d i which o al li 3 je w e e tian i t a w t h t i•ht c was r.ot the slight. st approach to any Odention the pert of the clergy to the :xclus: , . charge the religious education of the schcols. (Ile .r, he The hon. member seemed to thine. that slue). mischief arisen from the eptretiie of these maniseemer: c:stoc , he (Sir G. Grey) eould not ice how the on:start. hey could 1 , - 1;ok el cp n rote; H, lo: hard a petition from clergymen at the diccc Wells, expressine these intolerant opinions. no' , the whole education of the people for the cho land. And certainly, he must say, that in ea, r• •- sentiments, they were doing Idtle to increase . • respect with which it was his wish tha• lay lc :c ngatd the church.; With enfant to Kodi, c-h..! • recollected eta! it was aroma! training schoet of schoolmasters, those intended for worahouti for prisons, and that in neither of these places it to cooties the instruction exclusively to th, church of Peal old. In the former the eile chosen frequently from amone thot ir.m i•cs, a! a great many of the persons to he tent catholic; one other dissenters. In fact s. , difficulty of getting properly waited ear land when an inmeaved appodest. dared a higher sunder.? e' that they hi.! been cdO:ecil ing school in Glasgow for teechere. who w members of the church of S.:wiled. ('see • Kneller hall either that the principal sh-ull of the church of Er. ' and, or, no', that .1 c`. • detominati la should be in eonst let the two principal points which t ' , re t• i ' the hon. member, and he had given s.tzh tk: ' thought were due to the hon. member an: c Lord J. NIANNEIita said that the cot.:; . hod been introduced atter the Committee been sanctioned by the house. 111.1 the . known of there clauses, th•y ! supported the government propesiti: - . as it was by the dissenters, must it fallen to the ground. He had himself tido - i , • the 12th of July, ISI7, and the noble :or! h.a t. him that the lih-rty pith, rho ciser. to f -er• ,•• schools was rot to he dif•ineee. Meer. ft. • gushy the noble lord made the mananne•n• . palmy, and of this he (Lard J. hisnnerei •• Church had a right to complain. What they a' c e • e • pious churchman might have a right to •.;1.1 without the imroeitioi of then cleans. It m•eo that they were approved of by a msjooity •:' men of the church of Emden.). but he co—eo :• the Majority were' not to hind the consenter :4 rr. r He fur one would never support any 'nem which would he in the least denee url.it to • . • denomination which differed front h sot , lit er • they asked for the Church of enehr. I wee. the it se have the came freedom which eth.r oodies claimed themselves. Mr. ADDERLEY denie.l thst the by the right hon. gwitlemen . o r gate foe the church the right of e taco' 0Z • country. As he undcreteo.t !h. a rt was, that if aaybesdy wished to under the authority of the chord.. the, should not on that account be deptivol ci the •r she: national grant. (Hear, hear.) After a few words from Mr. Pct . % e - e Mr. P. WOOl) said that he did not the:- •.• n which had been referred to by the right h o co and which 'seemed to ittioence the mind of tb-• •t• ! for Kent, embodied the views of the ma otos cr e" portion of the clergy of England. then. hear • l! . =oriel stated that it was wrong to odor 1 1 ..1 • dissentine schools whatever. Now it was roo,e' that such was not the sentiment of the ehto for it supported the granting of support to all ,ter: ,, provided that they made voluntary cootrib " ueore the government rant (Hear, hear.) It as . read the memorial of two or three clergymen. ad •: thin their view was e point in dieemeon the National Society an d the l'ominittee (Hear, hear.) Then it was alleged that t o an aversion on the part of the Notional lay interference. That was a tailUadentaa tileht. was so was evident from the fact that the N0:100, recommended these very management clause... l, e • government thought the best, up to a certain tote'. was plainly understood by them that freedom sn allowed to persona who might take • different eicee was only after the Committee of Privy Council. not with recommending these clauses, insisted upon thou unlucky hour. as the best possible, and that evor,..`„ else should he repudiated end rejected. that the \4. Society felt it to be their duty to withdraw their spen h t i ; clauses which would deprive their subscribers of r. action. (Hear, near.) The house thought „ lo promote education by the combined; action blistery assistance and support from the, That system worked so well that dune; t', t, ..„; years of its existence the number of children At , • • ing the national schools had increased by inleet,!,, was not, therefore, likely that they would give t u p , it just that those who contributed two-thirds of the a to the school should be deprived of ell control. a :yea was glad that a committee was likely to lie grealeu vit : ‘ ,4 subject, because it would tend to allo y the a 5' errors which seemed te him to eeist on botmr,:,`. But it was not unnatural that the c ler gy sheuld afro uneasiness on this subject when they saw elsisseing.od,'f'"" ..... were at tint merely voluntary, afterwards male.. 1' Item (lieu.) A greet constitutional question eio this matter, because a large sum of mon e y , a sofa uae 3 . , :;;cd t as gated 'Oa f :2 .1 : 1 . .