The Express. — London, England, 1855-06-27 00:00:00

A in l ks derm a an man Cubist holds re.f.. t :L . so information with respect to the transact/Gusto which the i Pontypool hold that going three miles by rail, from e l t to: hon. gentleman referred ; but his attention having thyr to Twedyrlim, is travelling within the messing al WL . it Wee e a !led to the statement quoted by the right bon. act. Mr. Hardwick thinks that t maa song e Th ."' we i geo d e/D eo, he communicated with his noble friend the Be- journey by rail or omnibus and stopping for a pint f h,2 unary for War, who would call fora report from the officer a dm t rri a n. k p N u b li r l et i or e_ n -h , o (ol u af a u s gL n sb e tw a e r r: h e;t is ba, o n w dt n it home is not a travel, of , - 0, 1 ;'command, sir these transactions. Memo, hold 1 - ; 1 TOE CIRCASSIAN COAST. London to Norwood, sad stopping for beer withit i ,; ° , l t / Lord J. MANWIRS wished to know from the noble lord and a half of his own door, is a traveller. (A. l augh,) --w i in what espaeity was Mr. Longworth employed at Amps, Rhadamenthos of Highgate says a man ... m The 1 and what relations misted between the Circassian@ and Hampstead to Highgate is not such a traveller thatt f te t her Majesty's government ?i Lord PALMERSTON replied that Mr. Longworth was the drivers of omnibuses from any place out of te en .._-- the British consul at Monastic, to which post he was not travellers. A similar decision as to railw y Ri l . 7 . appoiated by himself when h i h e ld t h e o ffi ce and Mowers was given by the justices of C a ttelis - f7 i 1 of Secretary of Foreign Affairs. He selected him because The Lancashire justices at Seaford, at Mao he vent' • good deal of time in the country, and was well persons who on Sundays go four, five, or sin miles, en t-- ;:, acquainted with the habits, the political relations, and the or horseback , or in ;carriages, may not drink on the of the ishabitante. When it was intended to the presiding magistrate evidently deeiding it 0 , 1 -et carry on operations against Anapa, with which it was ex- ground that • man may, or neust not, or should not, wa t t mated, as it turned oat to be true, the Circassian would &bent on Sunday for plea , um A different interpretation n co-operate, Mr. L,ugworth was sent there as an organ of put on the act by Derbyshire joestices, who allow aa - - Beer Biil in Liverpoeel tad communication between the commanders of the expedition sons going sir or seven miles, w h atever be the re ' s l i ni i,; and the Cireassians. No relations existed between the go- their going, to moisten their clay as .. they go. (e 1, 01 1 vernment and the Cireassians excepting those which had From numerous places in all parts o: the country th e ~,°,.1 reference to their co-operation in tee attack on Anspa. plaint is that the justices have laid de wo no role t e i n . (Hear, hear) The re. Mr. BAILLIE wished to know in what capacity Colonel the publican in deciding traveller or no'. Do what o be -ol d Lloyd had been appointed some time ago in the same du- he can in no way escape the fans of the law." (IL."' trice, at a salary of 2,0001. hear.) lie would now read a letter he had received - . I Lord PALMERSTON-He was appointed to go to Cie' Mr. Atkinson, of 33, Percy. et, eet, Liverpool. H Inca maids for the purpose of opening communications with the "The operation of the Sunday people, and to ascertain to what extent, in the event of neighbourhood is of a very contradictory and opp rei o.; hasti le operations being decided upon , their co • ope re titan cagacharacter,rariindtoluictevnaengredyd stringentlyo T u jc m tu ero l i n e r s 1 informations nfor infringing Liverpool, ap h id a t v have r. be etaht e e t i at: it: . venience is experienced here in consequence of it, from th e might be obtained, and on whet terms. ARMY MEDICAL DEPARTMENT. arriving from stet departing for various partied the wolf, Col. BOLDER° begged to ask the noble lord at tbe head by hp, and steamer net pseno rs are e n mei of the government whether he bad read the notice of motion circumstance stan rai ce it that e's n 1111; ;and .of strangers ce au e,ontsiteatly for a select committee to inquire into the state of the army whim would have informations l.id against them, teed th ey medical department, and also whether it wss the intention of the government to accede to or oppose the motion. refused admission into the houres of hunted vine Ile . would then be put to the trouble end expense of Lord PALMERSTON suggested that the hoe. and ' gallant member had better communicate with the Under ansucb impossibility.passegra fall into the han ds promo , ' Secretary for War. that their guests had been bona pie travellers • ' s n o r t a involving that. to ma n y NEW WRIT FOR THE CITY OF LONDON. of lodgioghouse. keepers an n d o th er!, most of whom . Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he bad the day before asked and the licensed victualler thus is deprived of the lel tid• his boa. and learned friend the Attorney-General whether, to have stocks of ale, porter, and spirits is e l til - mate object of his business, which flows into chann-1 Her at iti. under the provisions of the Contractors Act, Baron Roth and had not vacated his seat for the City of London by intended by the legialeture- ( hear , hear )- end this ' e. entering into a contract with her Majesty's government for the supply of sixteen millions for the public service; and clause in the act exempting a bona file traveller is can also to the direct effect of defrauding the E tc h". Th e whether a new writ for Leaden ought not therefore to issue. The learned gentleman said be would give an answer person craning the river Mersey to Seaeembe, a distance - weed in a very singular maser in this mighb - ech oe d, --; when the question was brought forward in • practical and not speculative form ; he (Mr. Duncombe ) therefore of three - quarters of a mile, is considered a travell er , ail may have refreshment at the public.housee. A Wm crossing to Birkenhead is not a traveller, and he can - get se nse for the purpose of bringing forward the question in the most practical form, by moving that • new writ do issue fel eofnothtetrwavoerldleborend. fide the City of London. admittance as such. At Egremont, two miles down river, a person from Liverpool is a traveller • while the The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved that it be referred New Brighton, • mile lower down, he is note tre ' vellehl ' d to a select committee to report whether Baron Rothschild had laugh.) At ock Ferry, three miles up the river, a pim a ' worsted his seat or not. He was however perfectly ready from Liverpool is a traveller ; but at Easthem, , si • stiles - Monter into the question it the house thought tit ; it was from Liverpool, he is not a traveller. (& laugh.) At itu l e. 18 miles from Liverpool, myself and wife were refes:cl ' ad: moot those Can/ in which, as the house exercised its judi cial functions, it was the duty of every lawyer in it to give the best assistance in his power to enable the house to arrive eke ground v a r i t o h u a s t r we Ld i w a a e r ‘ at a just conclusion, without regard to personal or political laugh .) considerations. mittanee S on uch th a e re traveller ; and this act, in the hands of our justices ' Me Same further discussion ensued, after which Mr. D o re - been a complete scourge to the people. (Hear , heir) Lest coseax withdrew his motion, and the amendment was Sunday afternoon, May 5, I drove with a friend to the la adopted without a division. lege of Wavertree, three miles from Liverpool. Before ws SALE OF BEER BILL. got there the rain fell in torrents, end we were indebted to Sir J. SHELLEY presented two petitions from West- an intimate acquaintance were with there • the proprietor of the bete tel =Mater, praying for the repeal of this bill. for shelter. While we l pasd, Mr. COBBETT presented two petitions from Oldham to 214 persons , all on foot. It was raining fast a tended by _ d. , ths time, and thedistance from the house of the Oeceued to the the same effect. church was about three quitters of a mile. They returned Mr. H. BERKELEY, after presenting a petition from in procession to the einem and broke up. Now, ethout Somerset, and another from Carlisle, against the bill, then it was still raining, and many of them had mine two sed proceeded to move the resolution of which he had given three miles previously, they were refused admittnee into the hotel where we were, the landlord 'Relining the risk of notice, "That a select committee be appointed to inquire an information. Our stipendiary magistrate h.s decided into the act of last session for further regulating the sale of that a seaman is a traveller when he is going to sea, and he beer and other liquors on the Lord's day." He said the may have refreshment, but that he is not • traveller when house would remember that when that bill passed into • he returns from sea, because he hes arrived at law, none, or hardly any, of the members of the house knew the termination of his journey. (A lough.) Inn anything whatever of the nature of the bill. When tke nimble other cases could be adduced ei the inconsistent bill passed he stated, on the third reading, the great cable:- readings and baneful operation of this act, but the Bons there were to the bill, end be pointed out how one. above will slightly illustrate the manner in which sided would be its operation, for while the amusements and it interferes with the comfort and convenience of th e recreations of the working classes were interfered with, public in Liverpool and its neighbourhood." (Cbeen.) those of the upper classes were left untouched. The first He should trouble of the h ome with th et bu one more ease deci of the ' Sunday that the bill came into operation the o b j ections that inconvenience this sd of inconssion he had made to the bill were proved almost to demonstra- come to regarding it. On Sunday, April 23, the landlord of I lion. Thousands of the working classes who bad gone the Angel Inn, Sutton, bad his brother and sister to see him forth in railway trains to get a genial breath of fresh air in from London. As they were hiving supper, preperatory to the country returned after ten o'clock at night, end they their return journey, at about 20 minutes past 10 o'clock, Were thrown upon the town with every place of refresh- two policemen kr mks d at the door of the house, and were meat closed against them. What was the consequence ? admitted. After looking into the parlour, and such pubes' Great discontent, almost amounting to a riot, and the police rooms, they walked into the private apartment of the land. Were called out to do their most unpleasant, and he would lord, where the family wore at supper. Seeing mode:sum say no-English, duty, which they did with that quietude m aster wine on the house the tablebad t they de ear pu at the Epsom ted, and on Friday and the and firmness which marked the character of t he force. of o app Court, Since that time the injustice of the act had was fined 10s., sad 15 1 . costs, although he informed the been still further seen. Re did not think that magistrate that the lady and gentleman were his Oster ald he stood alone in that house in thinking that one brother. (Hear.) The magisterial answer was, " Then of the greats! t blessings accorded to the working- you must not have your sister end brother to supper." classes was the facility afforned them in going at • cheap (Laughter.) They had been always told " that an English. rate and witnessing the beauties of nature, at • distance man's house was his castle ;" but what ORS the value of that from their own homes. Why, 15 years ago thousands of to a licensed victualler, if he was not to have the tame mi. her Majesty's subjects bad lived and died within five miles !Hem another persons ? The house would pardon hist if be of the place of their birth, never bluing gone beyond that compared a case with that of the interference with this distance, and there were hundred of thousands of the in • licensed victualler. He would put a hypethetiell cue. habitants Mom island who lived and died without having Let him call the attention of the house to one of those ea. ever seen the sea, and there were many even of the inhabi- licensed victualling-houses-a club. It was Wiliest elevea 'tests of the metropolis who had never in all their lives at night, and that night was Suaday. Sng at supper, witnessed that grand object. Now, he conteaded that the with his brother, was one of the stipendiary magistrates, a present facilities of locomotion had a tendency to expand most amiable man aid 'generally popular. He had bees tie* mind, and was no mean step towards education't and down to Richmond or to Greenwich. He had had his venison, ye there were pious ascetics w imp would stand by and see and was thirsty, and at balf-past eleven at night he and hie shee departure of a Sunday train laden with a load brother were attacking the devilled lege of a turkey of human happiness, fathers, mothers, and children, and washing them down with whiskey punch. They going forth on the tiptoe of expectation, eo see went home, if not eino eitioque groviiti, at least the beauties of nature ; they could stand by and witness "comfortable." The next morning the magistrate rose, this, and lift up their pious hands and say the steam engine and the first case brought before him was a licensed w as, employed as a device and a snare by the evil the; and victualler, who had been informed against for giving a that thou who had been employed sin days out of the seven supper and a bottle of wine to his own brother at half in • smoky city, dwelling in half ventilated houses, and in past ten at night in hie own house. What did the magp streets probably net drained at all, should pass the seventh stride say, with tbe whiskey putch in his heed and the day in some church or chapel, listening to the holy out- taste of the devilled turkey on his lips ? He burled pouring, or to the blatant oration of some of these pious the statute book at the publican, ani fined him a ascetics. These might be good religionist', but he thought nd. Really . it made him exclaim, " Handy, Haney, they were bad Christians. Let him not bs misunderstood who is the justice, and who is the thief?" Es for one moment in advocating an abuses from religious did not think that • man would have worse treatment o ur aaaaa rues. Far from it ; that was not his intention. in Russia. He would now revert to the opinions of weir It was • fact that wh hose Sunday trains deposited trues on the act itself. Mr. Corrie said the act Was CA persons coming from distant parts the chapels stringent, and Mr. Norton said, in his opinion, the get most and churches at the places they visited filed be repealed, as it was not suited to the convenience or the to °Teaming. He could sly more , speaking from necessities of the public. (Hear, bear.) He now came to his own experience. It was the custom for Sun- the purpose for which this act was made, wbich he presumed day trains to depart from the city of Bristol to the was to check drunkenness on the Sabbath. lie firmly and neighbouring watering places, and tbe common custom of conscientiously believed that it had not that effect It bed the citizens was to go by an early train to attend a plate of been said that they could not make a man moral by let of worship by the see side, then pus the remainder of the day parliament, nor could they make the drunlead Bobo by in enjoying the fresh sir, and return in the evening. Fur- act of parliament. They might make them hypocrites. The ther, by this facility of locomotion, Bath and Bristol were effect of the ant had been that men bad got ' brought close together, and it was • common thing for per- drunk elsewhere, at beer shops called thrre.belfpenny , sons to attend worship at church at Bristol in the morning, shops,' and at low coffee-houses and at low brothels, go to Bath in the afternoon, and return and attend church where debauchery and drink went bend in-band, in the evening. And it was the same with the dissenters. Producing a state of morals fearful to contemplate. But it was not only for its interference with the Mr. COBBETT seconded the motion, because he cone. recreation of the working classes that be objected deiced that the act had created a great deal of disturbance, to this bill, but also because of its onesidedness. and bad cloud a great deal of mischief. This could be very well son if the house would allow him Sir O. GREY , although be did not concur in all the opinion to follow the progress of one of the working classes in one which had been ex r esod by the hon. gentlemen who had of these Sunday ezcorsien trains, and then to follow the moved and seconded the motion, was prepared to comae progress of one of the upper classes. The working man, on the part of the government, to the proposed inquiry • when be was departing for a dey's pleasure by an excursion (Ilear,leear.) At the same time he must remark that, train, quitted his house about five o'clock in the morning ; Previous to the introduction of the bill, a very sung feeling he had not much to lock np-be had not • well stored had been expressed that &measure, not of this limited eh larder, or COURT-and if he left anything alive in the house racier merely, but for the entire closing of public-tweet' co it was the cat. He went forth with the key of his hones in the Lord's day, should be enacted. (Hear, hear.) Ame his pocket, and he depended for his refreshments on the IDIOM bad sat under the presidency of the Judge Memo. public-house. He went down by • train, and arrived at a • great deal of evidence bad been taken, and the prude time when they had closed the public-honses. No dinner derance was certainly in favour of the bill which we, intro could he have. It was in vain to talk about their an per- deiced by his hon. friend. It was shown that Sunday vs mining a man to have refreshments under the pretence that the great day oa which drunkenness prevailed amongst the he was • bonsoide traveller, for in consequence of the deci. poorer classes, and it was thought that, by limiting Me gone of the magistrates the publicans excluded such a man, hours during which the public•houees were kept epee; a and they excluded every puma unless he was dressed in great temptation might be removed, and at the same ties broad cloth and was attended bT a servant. Well, be could a due regard might be paid to the comfort get nothing to eat and drink. They might say the public of the lower orders. He was bound to say did_ houses would be open o'clock, and so they were, but the information be bad received was tsunamis at that time the trains teem:wre on their return to ,andon on the whole to the working of the act; bat as they were the consequence was that the man was defrauded of We going to have • committee it would be better to leave the dinner and his supper. Now, he said, they ought not to to task of fairly sifting the statistics of the matter to it. tamper with the comfort of the working man. (Hear, hear.) He thou ht the bon. gentleman bad acted Let them HO now what the rich m an did, very judiciously in asking the house for a committee rather He went forth from his house, and weeded his than in proposing to repeal the act at once. A greet wh ° , l way to whatever place he pleased, and was deposited of the mils and inconveniences to which the bon. gnu ,- there by the train ; and he should like to see the innkeeper man bad adverted were not chargeable to the act. The or botelkeeper who would refuse bim animism. Did they sonettes'of both the hon. members went, in fact, WO know an instance of any gentleman having gone from all limitation whatever. They seemed to forget that a London, even only three miles, who had been turned hack, limitation had long since existed, and that in 1848 sol e , Well, he got his luncheon or his dinner. He seturned to portant extension of that limitation took place, so London ; and what did it s ign ify to him that the public- public-houses were obliged to be closed during the orde bonus were closed. His la rder and his cellar were well nary hours of divine service. A great deal of objection supplied, and supposing he did not wish top home there was at first made to that measure, bat the testimony of eu was his club-that door was never closed. He had shown t he witnesses examined before the committee was in Woe therefore, he thought, that the operation of the act was one- of that alteration, and even the licensed victualed theta sided. He would now show the monstrous contradictions, selves admitted that they did not wish to see it repealed. absurdities, and anomalies which were daily perpetrated Some of the decisions to which the hon. gentleman opeeliee under this act of parliament by all the family of had adverted were so extraordinary that unless they wee. minor Rhadatnantbuses throughout the country. All these within the personal knowledge of the hoc. gentlemen, he men had different ways of interpreting this statute. Some should doubt whether any magistrate could have 0 1 magistrates had even fined a Publican for receiving • foot them. Bat he would remind the house that the camel passenger ; others said th ere must be a man and horse ; and in favour of travellers was in the former acts. Hew ew... others that a man was a traveller if he were in a Post-chaise, remind the hon. gentleman the member for Oldham tot ° but not If he went in a fly. (Laughter,) They even went the cases he had cited it would have been illegal, evenuoder so far as to say what refreshment he should have. One gen. the old acts, for the innkeepers to have admitted pe r.. . , Osman held that brandy and water was an improper re • into their houses while divine worship was ring ". on freshment for a lien. So monstrous and absurd weft hear.) He believed that the complaints the y had Most the decisions under this act that he must beg leave to give against the operation of the act did not come from the $ O the house chapter and verse for any assertions he might of the people. On the contrary, he believed theta!! make regarding th em. " Persons going to Jack Straw's matter were put to the vote under &u niversal sulfu te! Castle, Hampstead, to dine there, are held to be tee. decision of the public would be for closing publie-bew7 sellers by Mr. Lonjg, of Marylebone Police-court.; hut on on Sundays altogether. (Cheers.) The complaints al the other hand, Mr. Partner. of Wandsworth Police. the act came from the licensed victuallers and from ete court, holds that persons going to Putney, even limited class of persons, who found that it interfered c_ if walking, are not travellers, and that the exception must their own habits. (Hear, hear.) He had received re be confined to persons travelling from place to place, letters in favour of an inquiry, but those letterew e. cr. through obligation or duty, and not for mere Pleasure. tated by views very different from those eotertain Likeminded is Mr. Trail, of Greenwich, who holds hen. gentleman. (Hear, hear.) fi n del that people coming from London, Croydon, Bayswater, and Mr. BRADY was extremely glad t° - .i ii fle Dartford, to Blackheath (one of the lungs of London), for the government had assented to the mo no is pleasure, are not traveller , because the act newer intended knew that there were public-houses and coffee•boton_.. that persons leaving their homes for amusement should be London where ardent spirits might be obtained at all oZ i ; considered travellers. On the other hand the more liberal of the day and night. He was decided , ' ennwew l ,_wil bench at Ilford, Baez, held that a man going five miles measure, and believed that it was centre 10 si t e be along the Mile-end-road for any pupae is • traveller. On feeling of the people. He hoped the rms ittee li°w - t h e ig the other side of the Severn the latices of petty saline at appointed immediately, and would p at once ul I ; . ti t P 1/4 .Ji. THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JUNE 27, 1855. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TVESDAY, 'us' 26. The hews at 6 o'clock. ROYAL COMMISSION. The royal assent was given by commission to the follow itg bills: Th e Consolidated Fond (10.000,00011 Bill, Education of Poor Children, hennas co Lives, Abatement of Income Tas, Conneaut.' of Ecelenutical CAM/. Stamn Dative, Repeal oss Ilstriculatios and D. geese (Oxford), Grants of Land, Public Libraries and Mammal, Spirits of Wine, Waterford and Limerick Railway, St. Helen's Improve ment, Crosier& and High Peak Railway, Limerick and Castle Consul Rahway, Newcastle-under -Lyons Railway, Limerick and Foynes Railway, Retyped end Carlisle Italw4, Newport Oss, Weston-super-Mare Oa, Alford and Boston lined, Wigan and Preston Reads North oWitneyf Yarrow, Leads Ins orove sant Compeny, C narlbury, , Re., Roads; Lyme Regia Roads, Newtown and °weeny Ranway, Doudelk and Illackrock Railw an ay, d Glßlackwell oacester WIEST etd Lr eel Board of Health, London Railway ; Manchester, Shetfi s himn Lincolnshire Railw (Lineoln Brener.); N stting and Newhaven Roa d 'Warrins ton Water, CAericnien Railway, East Kent Rsilr way, R - gent's Canal (Hertfordshire Canal). (Du a ro., and Studs- e<tern ltyl way. Newtown and Makeraeld ra pr Aeneas, South Wales Railway Consohdation, Ns *castle upoa-Ts no Improvrmeat. ACCIDENTS ON RAILWAYS BILL. Lard STANLEY, in MO? irg the woad reading of this stated that ita main object was to make it compulsory on railway alopecia' to establish a means of communication between the gaud and driver on each Sing train ; and he proposed to effect bit obj-ct by imposing a penalty fo r each day's delay in the adoption of suc h arran g ement. This penalty was levied in the first clause, end the second clause empowered the B Aird of Trade to require the building of • bridge or tunnel even where that a line at present crossed the r red at a !eve). la all recent railway acts this power was reserved for the Boar I of Trade, but in the earlier rail way bills no such power existed; crossings were tted permi on the level. and since :heir erection large p ,pulations had sprung up in the neighbourhood. This provision he pro poses also to enrolee be a penalty. Another clause rendered railway com panies al storable for all misfeasance on th h e part of their servants, and gave power for punishing suc servants as should +Wally leave their duty before the .spiracles of their contract. The Margins WESTMINSTER thought that means should be taken to provide • communication between the guard and pasicngen. After an obeervati an from Lord STAXLI7 in reply, the bill was a second time. CARNEGIE'S RESTITUTION BILL. This bill was read a third time and pseud. CONDUCT OF AU LL IE RI STA PO INWERS. RELATION TO THE A D Lard LYNDHURST rose to call the attention of the house to the treaty of the 21d December, 1554, and the recent conferences at Vienna with reference to the position of Austria in her relation to the allied usepowrs. The noble and learned lord said, —My lords, there is great number of persona in this country anxious to ascertain the precise position of Austria with reference to the Western Powers, and it is with a view of obtaining some explanation on the subject from my noble Ireland ;apnoeas that I have been iniuced to give notice of the present motion. I have been told that it is • delicate question to ask—a delicate subject to touch upon—and that any allusions to it must be made with very great caution; but as I intend to confine myself to a mere statement of fasts, I do not consider that say great inconvenience can arise from the present discussion. (liar, hear.) Everyone who is at all familiar with the state of affairs on it e continent of Europe must be aware that bath Pringle and Austria, but more particularly Austria, bus a more deep and immediate interest in the result of the aggressions of Russia than either of the Western Pewires—(::ear, bear)—and If those two powne„ Austria and Prussia, bed acted in concurrence with the Wt stern Powers with activity, energy, and decision, in the early portion of these disputes, I believe the effect would have been to restrain the proceedings of Russia, and that we should not have been involved in the present unhappy war. (Laud cries of" Hear, hear.") I conferee that in as fat as regards Prussia I have no hope of .say active co-operation on her part, for 1 know well the history of the last war be tween Turkey and Ramis, and i observed that the conduct of Prune at that time was one of complete subserviency to Russia. (Hear, hear.) But with respect to Austria 1 had different expectations. A great military power, presided over by • young and high-spirited monarch, deeply im pressed with the injustice of the proceedings of Russia, fully convinced of the deep interests he has at stake—these cirzurnstances led me to hope for some active and sympa thetic co-operation from that quarter. (Cheers.) However, it appears that cautious and timid counsels have prevailed, and I regret to my that I consider the actual position of Austria to be in some degree one of humiliation. (Hear, hear.) I have asked myself several times to what it would be possible to refer this Inaction on the part of Austria, and I ascribe it, as every man acquainted with the state of Europe must ascribe it, to its position—a position which I trace to that lamentable event which was one of the greatest crimes of modern times, I allude to the partition, to the successive partitions, of Poland, an act in which:unfortunately Austria took part, and in the spoils of which she (Hear, hear.) But, my lords, what was the result of that prcceeding ? Three-fourths of the extensive territory of Poland, with a numerous population, has been incorporated with the Resnais empire, and 1 er last acquisition, the Grand Dually of Warsaw, has pushed her forward into an ad vanced position in Europe, where, pressing on Central Germany, and dividing the dominions of Prussia from the dominions of Austria, she pursues her own policy by erecting a lire of formidable fortresses along the banks of the Vistula. She has also erected a second line of fortresses, net with a view of defence, but with a view of availing her self of the first favourable opportunity of continuing her aggressions in that direction. (Hear, hear.) Any one who looks at the map of Europe and takes into consideratiea the facts I have stated, will agree with what was stated in another place by • noble lord, namely, that the position of Russia may be considered as one of menace to Germany, and practically as much so to Austria, as her position at Sebastopol is one of menace to Turkey. (Hear, hear.) I feel that Austria could not take part in the military operations against Russia without considerable difficulty, bat at the same time risks must be incurred when great interests are at stake, and great objects are to be attained ; and I do not think that the position of Austria will be improved by hesitation and delay. On the contrary I think she never could have a better opportunity of vindi cating her rights, or of encountering the dangers to which I have referred, than she would obtain by that active and offensive alliance with the Western Powers which has been open to her at any time since the commencement of these conferences. (Rear.) Ido not feel, nor must Ibe under stood as saying, that we have derived no advantage from the position of Austria. On the contrary, the large army which she placed in Galicia occupied a oorneponding Russian army, and the advantage of the retention of the latter in such • position has been felt during the whole con tra ; but I am sorry to sey there are symptoms and appear ances that lead me to believe that this occupation will not be continued, bat that at no distant period we shall see a great diminution of the force on the Austrian frontier detach and a corresponding power on the pert of Rada, to forces for any operation she may undertake against the Allies. (Hear, hear.) Up to this time, if we have not had the physical force of Primula and Austria on oar side, we have had their moral sa?port; and it has been of the greatest advantage. But with Impost to Ptaiskt, I balm we owe its support, not to the wisk a do pmessaist, but to the strong ("shag of the people of that inerstery. (Rem bear.) With respect to Austria I beams mats I.llfirgy, that the t spirit is which the goverment bee Mai lei has doom, earnest, and straightforward, has swim tom a dump some of the conduct et Russia and • stress NON d 1110 interest she has in restraining the ambition of that pews/ sad is checking tier aggression. It is to the pretends I min whoa I talk of the moral support we have teatited from them two powm, those protocols beginning 10 far bask as Sep tember, 1853, and extending to May of last year. There were four or five of these documents Initia in the strongest terms the injustice of the proceedings o f Russia, sad at the same time declaring in very forcible terms that the ob ject of the alliance of the four powers was in the float place to procur e evansation of the Principalities. sad in the next to wears the independent* a the Ilates, end the integrity of his dominions. These wen the Mints to which the protocols were directed. I have stated that they go dens to May of last year, whom It wall appear that Ass Ida had • feeling that elm wm not sang Ivory held as bolded part, sad she detegmMed to lobo estop is mamas. In the folio ism Ma mei. a ismsad spas limn to inmate the dament wltleltwas slab is very .seems te ase. lee in ton that it sat ompliod wide amen maims would be resented to to esespol it. Bet yam kadehlps sum ast to sap pies that that desead was altsgeOet • disgaglins ban the aeggism seemat policy width AM& WI up le that 11 a passel, When I call yam attesties to Ike dates sad airssamlsams ander whisk that wm made pas Will ses that it was merely a mallainem al the pro *NW mem of policy. At that time the Beigre in the ==ktrhad suffered anassiy—libek army bad bees y dismiss sad had Wm delhand la several en eseallna by no Turks—they wees s =ant at the time aft way wassunally the siege el while the allied limp Ism mosatratiag at Yarns. r was • large force he l ew h hew sAlMasoplo—asdi It was miler than eir m a ilillanma Mewls matured bras flit V t ile top make dismasi, dimmed b sat to tis= a non as ill .67-4 2:= tha each from the allanmiswe sal siannes policy which alke Ind Mama imaiLar e .) 4l : a r a t t i o i llowed n Tat Anti% is definite terse, but sade counter preoceitioss, wM la 'abatises mooted to • refusal. What we. thee' OWN wide atria pursued ? Did she ferry into bra Less aping Ressis,_or did she attempt sa Is a r idea eff theTelatipalities ? Far from it. She abstained hem doing saetliog for a period of several weeks, as st tenth when the siege of Silistria was raised. aim the Russian army was in retreat, and when the labies isi n verement had served nodes that she would ream the Pruitt, and there act OS the defensive, talk sell we until then, did Ataxia venture to awe tite boundary, and take up her present positioa I. the Principalities. (lieu, hear.) What afterwards hap pened ? Russia, with great skill and great political address, had said she should sot on the defensive, a declaration w hich could only be lcoke i upon as a propoeit ion for the neutrality of Austria. Austria acesepted it, and it was pear tinny acquiesced in, for no attempt was made to cross the Froth after the retreating Russians. The consequence of that was that the whole of the army of Bessarabia was set free to act whist the Allies in the Crimea ; and so rapidly did the Russisus avail themselves of the opportunity, that they prceeeda sometimes at the reo of 40 miles • day. availing themselves of all the facilities that Odessa sad its neighbourhood dined for the trainman of trace'. In what manner did Austria conduct herself in the Ma cipalities ? It is sot my intention to enter up 'a any detailed statement as to her conduct, for I am not sufficiently au- versant with this pert of the subject. But I may Meares this, that when an army of a friendly power enters into a country for the purposes of protection, its first duty is to take care that the strictest discipline is maintained in its army. Now, ley lords, there us surmise s u p on this subject —whether they are correct or not I will not undertake to say—they us to the effect, that this principle has not bees strictly adhered to. Again, by the treaty between Austria and Turkey it was provided, and expressly stipulated, that all the privileges of the yn should be strictly guarded. Now I understand, m noble friend (Lord Clarendon) oppo site will tell me whether I am corrector not, that so far from this treaty being adhered to martial law has been proclaimed throughout this territory. I pass this point however, be cause it fortes no necessary put of what I wish to eddy's to your lordships,u well as for the reason to the which I have a lready stated, my want of (*dainty with respect correctness of the information which I have received. It was in the middle of the month of Augest that Austria tock possession of the Principalities. She remained in posses sion without distu rb from Russia, and while we were struggling i the Crimea in support of the common sass, while we were shedding our blood and expending our treasure to support an object is which Austria was much more deeply interested than ourselves, that power was quietly establishing herself la quoinci lities, and engaged in spreading, by and circulars addressed to other governments, such a mass of entanglemeat as was never equalled by our own Coast of Chancery in its worst days. (Laughter.) Such was the state of things on the 2nd of December, at wt ich period a treaty was signed by Austria and the Western Powers. That treaty appears to me • most singular document. So far as relates to the obligations of the West- ern Powers, it is precise, distinct, intelligible ; but, when you come to consider the obligati ons im p e-ed on Austria, they are vague, indistinct, and almost unintel ligible. The stipulation oa the part of the Waters Powers is, that if Austria should be attacked by Rauh, we should joie in an offensive and defensive alliance with her. But, on the other hand, it is stipulated that in the event of peace not being concluded before she end of the year, upon the basis of the four points, then that Austria—will do what? Take up arms with the allies ? No, my lords, but that she will deliberate with the Allies without delay upon the effectual means to attain the objects of the Allies. (Cheers.) Now, what is the precise meaning of these terms I cannot ue dertske to say ; but this I will say, h at according to my in terpretatios of the words, they must mesa—if they mean anything—that Austria will concert with the Allies upon ac tive measures to give effect to the alliance, and that she will take part a those measures. This is my interpretation of these terms; any interpretation short of this would be manifestly absurd ; _an I thst I am supported in this inter pretation, both by France and by her Majesty's govern ment. I will undertake to show to your lordship'. I find in the Monitor of the 25th of April a passage to this effect, and I would remark to your lordships that nothing can be sore marked or stronger than the expressions here made tee of. The putage runs thus—" In fact if these nego tiants essay ng to the negotiations which were to take glee" bean the end of the year) should fail, Austria, whose alliance wadd blooms an effusive one, would enter late armed action, sad the weight of her sword would soon obtain by war, what her influence could not effect in the Conferees. The Allied Powers know that if Aus tria does not suseeed in this noble effort of her Euro pean patriotism, she will fight resolately with them. The adhesion of the Western Powers to an honourable and possible peas having, as • consequence, the support of Austria in • necessary and legitimate war, is an sot coun selled by wisdom, sad will be approved by public opinion." Nothing can be more distinct and marked than these winds. or can show more distinctly that the construction to he pia upon the treaty is this, that if peace is not concluded spa the basis of the four points, Austria will cooperate in the warlike endeavours of the Allies. I have also another 'tithe rity to which I beg leave to refer your lordships, viz., the authority of the Secretary of State for the Colonies. Re says: " I understand the meaning of that article (certainly not containing anything very precise) is this, that if England and France propose conditions of peace, which are in conformity with the four hues, and cense within these terms, snd if Russia refuge to assent to such • treaty of peace, then that Austria will me bags hesitate, but will form part of the alliance against Reeds" I I think, therefore, that u pon t governments ot Fosse and of England have pet upon this treaty the same inter pretation which I myself have already put upon it in my I statement to your lordships. This brings me to the am- adored= of what has since taken place, and what is the 1 position and conduct of Austria. Russia consented, after some explanation, to enter into a negotiation upon the basis of the four points. It would follow, from what I have ' already stated, that if in the result of that negotiation peace was not °occluded with Russia, from • disinclination on her put to steed* to our terms, Austria would be obliged to take an active/pante the war. But to resume. Nego tiations were commenced. I am very happy to say that Count Buol, the plenipotentiary on the part of Austria, acted in the discuses of the various points with the utmost firmness and candour. Re urged these points with the Allies with great force, with great capacity, and with great judgment. lam not going to follow the discussions which took place ; lam only about to refer to their result It was proposed on the part of the Allies to limit the naval force of Russia and of Turkey in the Bleak Sea. What was the answer of Russia? It was this, "We will not consent to limit the strength of the navy of Russia in the Black , Sea by treaty or in any other manner whatsoever." To this statement the Russian plenipotentiary adhered. Russia then gave to a counter proposition . This was stated ' by Count Bail to be unsatisfactory, and to be en have the such as not te lead to any fair terms for peace so that daisies of Count Baol upon a proposal made by the Allies, adopting that proposal which Russia rejected. On the ether lead you have Count Buol considering a counter pro paid's, objecting to it, and saying that it did not carry into effect the basis of the tour points. Count Boot, in the very last series of papers laid upon the table of this house, de. deree, is precise terms, his opinion upon the propo sas Mile by the allies, and says that it was a proper end oolositie mode of settlement. lie further says that tine made cm the other side by Russia were wholly Nothing could be more clear and distinct ass *see avowals. Russia had according to the opinion of coast Bad refined to do that which was ressatable and pow. Austria was therefore bound to take active measures. My lords, those who come to that modules are bat little aware of the resources of German police sad sego. Sation. After five weeks had elapsed another meeting of Os casfereaes was held in order to it. final closing. At Oat oesilag • proposal was made on the pert of Austria, eles aid she considered would be satisfactory both to lona sol the Allies. Now, my lords, I know that there ere poem who say that Austria must have knows, that Meant Mal Bast have knows, that the Allies would not w agree he dot parses I do not say so. Again, I kuo Yoe sae panume she say that, knowing this propoeition molt wit be 'greet to by the Allies, the made that proposal lift a view of eliding out of the obligation. I make no suoubsurgs, Let me, however , draw your lor dshi p .' ate Mal" hi the proposition which was made, and let it be with that which had been settled and decided li previous conferences. The proposal was that ia the Ports should agree together as to what be the amount of the naval forces which they should ingotively maintain in the Black Sea, and that they Yeah not is say event used the number of vessels then saes. This was the proposition. Bat what had already taken place? Russia had said we will not submit to limitations, be they of any mind whatsoever, of our fleet in the Black Sea. , The French negotiate?, Y. Dmitri de Lhuys, teemed 1 , anxious to coaled. as far as possible with the Russian 1 segotiater. He said the better way would be to let Russia and the Porte settle in conference the amount of the fence 1 which they should respectively maintain in the Black Sea, eadlet them draw up • paper and sign it, and let that be attached to any treaty. This, however, was met by 'Flukey with • fiat refusal. She said we have entered into a treaty with the allied powers, by which we have bound ourselves sot to eater into negotiations with Russia—that obligation is binding upon et, and upon the rest of the powers. How wes it possible thee, after that proposition had been considered disguised, dr tannined, and the conferences, to • certain ' extent, dosed, how was it possible for Austria to imagine—l hardly like to us any stronger terms—that under these circumstances the allied powers would resume the coeferences upon the terms proposed ? It would be as idle as impossible to attempt to answer this question • indeed any answer to it would be fruitless. Here Ouzels, li admit, some colour, some possible ground for believing — though Ido not myse lf believe it— that Austria bad made this last proposition, knowing theta could not be acquieseed in,le order to afford •• nominal patent for sliding out of that obligation into which she had entered. Now,my lords, In what position do we steno? Is the treaty of the tad December binding or not ? We hew bees Cgs for two years hied in hand with Austria, owerski. as all oeststoss,definitig to her doubts end Nose* I lait from = time to time she would take olio tier which have from time time besaffeesseiteri, eandAm, r the last stags, we appear alma boa to by Mi ll ui l lthe matinee who T sees he"aile:finstirt=eell!ilt. saws bh ears. to WM it, he follow it antiasally, Mem 1 seatismallejtefem him All at sae* it tiowellS Min is smoker %auto of the beelos. - - ae. _again shifts . be dellews &meat elms be awreestaws it, who 'Mainly and assay It posses lures Ws sight, est be le left be as teslisetes 'ea aside' reek' and gunboats, whit 1118$1010 iii Ma issoreso te plok his aiS tat peril late whisk he bee been draws. What is the aline of that ship I will sot say—it might seem personal to do p se—ead well to leave mar lordships to draw your own =Wm. ( 1 Hear, hear; . sad laughter.) I do nit that Austria will enter into an actual atraWl et neutrality. But I do believe thi,, that Ade' hie will have a secret understanding with R • and. withdrew her forces from the frontier I Russia will do the same, end thus substantially a ante nesteelity will be tits result. Having this view, I thought it my duty to call the attention of my noble f to this important subject. I must, however, be allowed my two words further upon the subject of these coif The noble viscount at the head of her Ilsjesty's meat is sail to have complimented the noble lord (J. Rus sell) representing this country at the conferences for the gnat talent which he displayed. Now, no person enter alas a higher opinion of the talent of that noble lord lima I. I never knew a man involved in dieculties or perplezi ties extricate himself with more &ideate and dexterity than the noble lord— ( sughter)—indeed, I am inclined ta think that the noble lord would voluntarily place himself in a situation of difficulty in order to exhibit his skill is getting out of it. Notwithstanding, however, the talents of that noble lord, I am bound to say that the only power which gained any advantage in these negotia tions was Burris. I wilt explain how in a few words. The two first points considered in the negotiations were the only two points in which Russia and the German powers were interested. They were points almost exclusively of Gefinaa interest, and indeed -were the only points in relation to which Germany could have been called upon to make any sacrifice. These two points were discussed at the begin sing of the conferences ; everything went on with the utmost smoothness between the negotiators; nothing could hays looked better or more promising. The points were agreed upon and settled to the satisfaction of all parties. Whet happened afterwards ? The third point came to be considered. Lord J. Russell, with great suavity of manner, proposed that Russia should take toe initiative. Prince Gortehakoff .aw his advantage. He said he had no powers, and must refer to his court. This, of course, would lead to delay • but of amenity it was conceded. Eightees days elapsed before any answer was returned. How were those eighteen days enstloyed ? Through the medium of Prussia and other channels communications were made to the lesser powers of Germany, representing to them that Russia had conceded every question in which they were interested, and a distinct intimation was given en the part of Russia that if the lesser states did not take part in the mutest going on, who might be the result of the ow (maw Russia would adhere to her engagements. Am I not perfectly arrest, then, in saying that the only power who obtained any advantage was Retail? (Hear, hear.) That she did obtain that advantage facts patent to all prove. We all know that the lesser powers have ceased to make any preparations to join Austria, and we know, too, that Austria does not think herself sale in taking up arms unless backed by the smaller powers. And your lordships will, perhaps, consider against how great a majority this advantage we gained by Austria. There was, in the first place, the slow cautious Austria; them as the more lively and active Gaul ; there was the clear-headed Englishman ; there was the silent Turk on the one side ; and on the other side, tt ere wt the sly wily Russian; indeed, to use the 1 nguag i 6f the turf, the Malian had beaten the field. (Cheer.) No one can doubt that Russia felt the advantage which she bad gained, and that it influenced her subsequent conduct with reference to these negotiations. Up to this period the utmost courtesy prevailed during the progress of the negotia tion ; but after it, although a show of courtesy was still maintained, a sneer occasionally was ap. parent upon the part of Russia. Allusions were made to the supposed designs of France upon Tunis, to the beekwardnees of the alleged preparations on the part of Austria, and an sir almost of triumph made itself occa sionally apparent. I don't intend to go into the considera tion of the propositions made in the conferences; but I will say this, tint, in my opinion, and according to the best of my judgm none of those propositions were worth aught. (Hear, Mar.) The proposed reduction of the power of Russia In the Black Sea could never substantially be carried out, it would always be evaded, and the attempts to evade it would lead to continual disputes, which in the end would without doubt involve us in fresh wars. The noble lord, who represented England in the conference, and who alluded to the treaty of Utrecht, and to the destruction of Dun. kirk,might from his own illustration have formed an opinion o the uselessness of binding Russia to a reduction of her nave. r ower. After these conferences terminated every thing was dark at Vienna. That may have arisen from our but little attention to the seam after the noble lord t a Jt i fe l d r it; for, as Shakespere tells us, after a welt-grand seine leaves the stage, the eyes are idly bent on him who eaters next." (Hear, hear.) Proceeding to forecast the passible successes of our arms, the noble lord then insisted ,on the necessity of exacting from the enemy emeitiose I which should permanently deprive him of the alone 11 1 disturbing the common trenquillity. As one of mai time, he indicated the absolute demolition of the I fortress, and concluded by urging the present govelement to greater vigour and decision in their future prionedbes. The Earl of CLARENDON said, Austria nevorrequired eay impulse from France l ightish she entered into. 10 eater into binding . Waste ; she agreed to the la which sbmp • Oat It sh d i d go cont t e o war wi she and defensive &Manes . eke stipulated that it peace . hems by a certain day, then the he earned one, the arreogements =it. (Ironical cheers.) by Austria herself ; Sr. Ommt Beol made the strong cad learned friend had elite made certain engagements t Might be the consequences these engagements. And t Wall all this time intending . Womoded in a very ill-advise , Seel have been to bring t relief. The et =eleen proposed to her. elf I tary operations. This s On the contrary, any . was received with the and your lordships will re _ from the Emperor of Austria and the Queen of England, cot_,„ posed fall of Sebastopol, and desiring n. all the consequences which might result from that great event. (Haar, hear.) At the conferences Austria brought forward the same proposals, expressed the same opinions, sad supported them in the same language, as the plenipo teatlaries of Ragland end France. When the plenipoten tiaries of England and France declared that they could go so farther, Austria said that there were other means by which the third basis might be carried iato effect, and that those other meow ought to be tried. The conferences were adjourned sine die; and so they would have remained, but Count Beet sad their remaining in that state was a cause of labanaemeat to all parties, and gave rise to suspicions. He wished that they should be closed, and that he might be snowed to redeem the pledge which he had given at a ham esaferesee, and make one last attempt at bringing the belligerents to an agreement. The answer to that was, my lords, that we must see the proposal before we could give any opinion upon it. That proposal was mat to us ;1 we declined to accept it, and we said that the plenipoteu *dm of England and France could only attend the confer- WIMP for the purpose of its being closed. Count Boot was in formed beforehand that the proposal would be refused, sod I apprehend that he brought it forward simply because he had pledged Mewl( at the previous conference that he would bring something forward. Well, the conference beleg at an end, we did my to Austria that we thought the time was now come for her to fulfil her engagements. (Hem.) Her answer to that, in substance, was, that altho ods had not agreed to the proposal for tarrying into eliti ugh R st OM third basis, yet that there were other means of giving offset I to that basis: that there wasthe system of counterpoise ' that there was the opening of the Straits when the Porte weein danger ; that there was the tripartite treaty to Newel the independence of Turkey, by means of which the pea l peaderane• of Russia would be put an ead to, and al 'Misty for the maintenance of the integrity of the Ottoman Wein remeeed ; and that, consequently, as these terms bed bean miesteed by the Western Powers, Austria did not tad bard he weyerate with them in active measures. I an WWI W egy that that is not our view of the engage- Mate whisk were entered into by Austria—Chian Mee) ter of the fulfilm ent of the treaty. Bet, tay lords, as it is principally on this point that Imy noble and learned friend has dwelt in arena leg your attention to the course which Austria hes pawned, I shish we ought in justice to consider what mai he the ethethe dam conduct of which we not unnaturally thieplath. Ity terds. I think there can be no doubt that vies Asada eatared into bee successive Implements with inglead istises a rj er itereee , sad w , w hen hen sh e t he urg ma ed de t s ha uc t h ensive m ea i t tanes =on. down shwa be sent by Franco and England to the head quarters of General Hess, I think there can be so doubt. I say, that she then expected and %tended war. But Ido net think she intended to go to war single handed. (Hier, hear.) She expected that England and France would have obtained such derisive advantages in the Crimea that her army would be free, and that abs would be able to concert with her Allies measures for an active campaign. Such, however, has not been the case ; and if Austria had, at our invitation, at the Close of the costs resale, deflated war against Russia, there con be no doubt, I think, that she would have entered into the war single healed. We could not up to this time have lent her any elehlesee. Ido not think we could have made any impor teat diversion in her favour. And if she could not have had the assistance of England and France, could she have everted on the assistance of Prude ? Could she have reckoned on Prussia's good will ? Could she have felt confident that she would not have ansmiss in her flash sad In her rear. (Hear, hear.) She might_ have been exposed to dine ten in her owe terri- OM Wdek England and France were unable to avert. llestlia, it Is notorious that the finances of Austria are not In a illedshing state, mainly, ea I think, in consequence of elogatele of restricted commerce she has adopted, and modem her revenue unequal to her expenditure, and seheeitesetty her military expenditure not being confined Ile her financial means, she hes not occupied that position which I think she ought as a fint-rate power in Europe. To tame reasons may be added others to whisk I do sot think It pendent to allude, which have isthmoid the decision of Austria. My noble and learned friend has asked what is now our position with Menace to Austria. In reply I coo my that Austria has announced i that sh will them the Prinelpalitiee until pease is de. ciand, In compliesee wish the atm et her %nay with Turkey. To that we have ne objection, for the occupation of the Principe Miss under tho terms of that treaty amounts to the occupation of unitary by one nation as a means of defence spinet the aggression of fteother ' and that is not an set of neutrality, but, oa the contrnry , is one SO hostile to Russia that she might perhaps be justified in making it the subject of hostility ; and so long u Austria is acting with Turkey under the conditions of tint treaty, we have a security agaiest the return of Russia Into the Prin cipalities, which would be foslowed by the own potion of the whole line of the Danube. We have announced, as regards 'the four bases of negotia tion, they were taken by us in their entirety. lam now answering the question of my noble friend with regard to what our position is—sad I wish to inform him, that as we have taken the four bases in their entirety, and as the third point, which was to us of the most importeace, was rejected, and the responsibility of that rej.ction rests with Ramie and not with us, we consider we are disengaged from those terms as a whole, and freed from all partial terms connected with them. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) No doubt the principles on which the four bases were founded must be discussed in any conferences which Imay take place, but Ragland and France have reserved to themselves the right to come unfettered and flee into any future negotiations and to insist only on such precise conditions as they may think most advantagenus to them selves cod their ally. (Hear, hear.) As I have said, I am compelled to abstain from following my noble and learned friend into this branch of the subject, yet I have endea veered to give him an answer to the inquiry he has made. We can have no object in censuring or causing any misun derstanding with Antrim, and I hope I have said notbieg in way way calculated to disturb the good feeling which Insists between Austria and ourselves, and which , if we obtain military successes, I do not yet despair at seeing still further extended. (Hear.) I have sated why I think that the position in which we are placed as made Austria has nothing in it to justify any censure upon her, or any alumna our part. I repeat that at no time bee tt at position influenced our military operations, and I repeat that oar position Bs regards the future, so fox gum being worse, has improved, for England and France ere more free and unfettered with regard to any terms they Ism choose to make than they have hitherto bee n. " (Hear.) The Earl of Emairrsoßovox, the Duke of ARGYLL, Lord DENMAN, the Marquis of CLANRICARDI, and Earl ORAN 'ILLS having briefly spoken, the subject dropped. The house adjourned at half put nine. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TtIESDAY, JUNE 26. The house sat at 12 o'clock,and completed the discussion, in ummittee, of the Metropolis Local Management Bill. The house resumed at 6 o'clock. PUBLIC BUSINESS. NOTICE OF MOTION. Mr,WISE gave notice for the 10th of July, that he would move " That an humble address be presented to her Ma jesty, praying that her Majesty may be meet graciously pleased to issue her royal commands for a complete revision of the diplomatic establishments of the United Kingdom." GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS—MR. LINDSAY. Mr. MALINS said that In consequence of what passed last eight relative to the position of the hon. member for Tyne- Muth in that house, in consequence of being interested Y a government contract, be handed in a notice to the desk at the table, setting forth that "he would call the attention of the house to certain statements made by the First Lord of the Admiralty, which conveyed to the house the impression that the hon. member for Tynemouth was interested in a government contract." Some time after suds he was informed by the Speaker that the terms of the motion were objectionable, inasmuch as they referred to a debate that had already taken place. Unless he could refer to that debate it was useless to bring that notice before the house. He therefore put a notice on the paper, merely asking for the production of the contract with regard to certain transport ships. But that would not give the slightest information to the house if the Speaker was of opinion that he was precluded from referring to what took place in the previous debate. He wished, therefore, to know whether he was at liberty to refer to that debate ? The SPEAKER said a notice was most irregular which called attention to a statement by an boa. member on a previous night. If any notice was to be taken of that speech it should be taken at the time, and if there were any words in it which were intended to form the ground of further proceedings, they should have been taken down at the time, but it would be most irregular to refer to that speech in the special, particular, and direct .way the hon. member proposed to do. Mr. ROEBUCK—If the] hon. and learned gentleman " supposed" that these words had been spoken, might he not then go on ? (Laughter.) Mr. MALINS was aware that the difficulty was only a technical one, which might easily be overcome. He should therefore proceed. (" Not now.") The SPEAKER said the house bad no facts before it touching the seat of the hon. member. (Hear.) CIVIL SERVICE. Mr. MILNES postponed the motion which stood in his seme on this subject till he saw the effect of the commissior appointed by his noble friend. SEBASTOPOL COMMITTEE REPORT. Mr. ROEBUCK postponed his motion on this subject VI Tuesday the 10th of July. SUNDAY TRADING BILL. • OTWAY wished to put a question to the right bon. gentleman the Secretary of State for the Hems Depart. ment on the subject of the Sunday Trading Bill, respecting which there was stated to be considerable manifestation out of doors on Sunday last. He wished to know from the right hon. gentleman, as his department was particularly interested in the maulers, whether the bill had his sanc tion, and whether it would have his support if the noble lord (Lord R. Grosvenor) should persevere with it ? Sir G. GREY said that it was not his intention to offer any opposition to the proceeding further with the bill in sommittu. He would state his opinion on the clauses when they were before the house. (Hear, hear.) OTWAY gave notice that on the motion for the third reading he should propose that it be read a third time that day three months. (Hear, hear.) Mr. ROEBUCK gave notice that he should move in ununittee that all the clubs in London be included. (Hear, hear.) Mr. M. GIBSON—Wes the house to understand that the government assumed no responsibility? Was it a go vernment measure, or were the government quite indif brut ? (Hear, hear ) Sir G. GREY—It was not a government measure. It bad the support of all the metropolitan members. (" No.") Mr. MASSEY wished to know from the noble lord lOW got he intended to proceed with the bill? Lord R. GROSVENOR hoped the house would extend its indulgence to him if he made a reply longer than usual le the question of the hoe. member for Newport. The hon. gentleman asked the wrestler,, he presumed, in consequence et what took place in Hydsepark on Sunday last. (No, se.) He begged to inform the house that since that move ment he had received several letters from working men, in which they spoke of the persons then assembled in no com plimentary language. He did not mean to speak in un courteous terms of those persons, because he did not think that the expression of opinion of the very humblest ought to be treated with indifference or contempt. Mr. ROEBUCK rose to order. (Hear, hear.) The noble teed was making use of arguments which ought to be answered. The IffSAITER said the noble lord appealed to the indulgence of the house, and it was only by the permission of the loan he could make a speech. (Hear.) Lord 1. GROSVENOR—The responsibility of the bill did not rest with him, but with the house. It was his intestine esteem the bill. (Hear, hear.) OFFICIAL SALARIES. *.WILLIAMS asked the Pint Lord of tire Tru ism wiledier, in compliance with the vote of that house on the nod day of May, the government intended to carry into Meet the :commendations of the select committee of 1850, reepeetiog *Seel salaries? Lord PALMERSTON said that these recommendations were maturely censidered by the government at the time. less of them had been carried into 'fleet, and others had IA; sad the government explained at the time why they bed not. lie could only say that in the present state of public biplane they could not be carried into effect. Mr. WISE gave notice that he would on the 10th of July move an address to the crown for a complete revision of the diplomatic establishment of the United Kier/dom. RECENT OPERATIONS AT KERTCH. Mr. M. GIBSON wished to put a question to the noble lord at the head of the government respecting the recent operation against Kertch. Grave charges had been made in connexion with that expedition which, if true, would reflect seriously on the character of England and English oaken. He did not believe these charges himself, but, if not tree, they ought to receive contradiction from the Waiter of the crown. He had seen the chimp made in private letters, and it also appeared in the public journals. A eorrespendent in the TIMM aewapaper stated: "When the allies entered Kutch the following morning the popula den made their submission and offered bread and salt to the sesqueron, in accordance with the Russian castors ' end they were assured they would be protected, and that their Jives and property should be spared. • • Towards evening Turkish stragglers from the camp, and others (not stating who they were) who had fallen out of the line of march, flocked into the town and perpetrated the most MTG. etous crimes. To pillage and wanton devastation they added violation and murder. • • The French patrols ' I endeavoured to preserve order, and succeeded to some ex tent ; but not till they had killed and wounded several Turks and Tartan." He wished to know from the noble lord whether he bad received any information on the sub jut ? Lora PALIIERSTON said the government hid received it appear. lOU C 511,... My. and I regret to say that I Austria to be in some degs Lear.) I have asked mysel be possible to refer this Inas I ascribe it, as every man i ' Europe must 'write it, to i trace to that lamentable eve crimes of modern times, I successive partitions, of Pols 1 Austria took part, and in th 6 (Hear, hear.) But, my le prceeeding ? Three-rouse 3 Poland, with a numerous 1 with the Russian empire. s • I Booby of Warsaw, has vaned position in Euro I 1 Germany, and dividing tt , .. dominions of Austria, a erecting a lice of fcrmidi the Vistula. She has alai • net with a view of define. self of the first favoura aggressions in that directi I 1 i looks at the map of Euroi r facts I have stated, will / . another place by a noble of Russia may be co 1 Germany, and pradicall position at Sebastopol is . hear.) I feel that Au, 1 military operations aga: difficulty, bat at the ISM great interests are at sta I attained ; and I do not will be improved by heti I think she never could 4 eating her rights, or of 4 l have referred, than eht offensive alliance with tl open to her at any timi conference , . (Rear.) stood as sayieg, that . , . . from the position of A. army which she placed ! 1 Russian army, and the latter in such a pasitioa i test ; but I am sorry to antes that lead me to ' to continued, but that great diminution of th. • 1 a corresponding pow. forces for any operat Allies. (Rear, hear.) I i the physical force of 1 have bad their moral I advantage. But with its support, not to the strong feeliog of the t With respect to Amex spirit is which the go 1 , earnest, and straightf 1 1 of the conduct of Rut she has in restraininG checking her agereesii I talk of the moral i two powers, those pi I timber, 1153, and e I were four or live of tl terms the injustice t the same time declari ject of the alliance 1 place to proven the I the wit to snare and the Westin ef to whin the yrtion they go Inn Is Mat that Anna had a i boil at tlinideti part stlegasm la the tot Ueda to enemas, I node in very slaws tea that If met I I I . \, rielinll4 to to sows pens 6114 that dame , 1 gamilems nags of line painetl. 'WI ' ag elagmanness t 1 pea wits ON that it . ' gins goons el poll dine i 1 m gammons by the 1 et way namend ONUS WINII SISNII Si 11.1N6 111111110511• 11 * I •II 'L i a dianni. gga , 1 I : . lionomibmiamtl 1 ' abaniams sai • alt 1 ' 1 . 1 t , { . 0t - . and England in the engagements "On the contrary, she Mesintesred I engagements with E d and I the treaty of the 2nd d mber, ed war with Russia, it agreel with ber, there should offeu. es between the three 800 eace were not 'stabile attain Len the objects of the should ;gements for that par t being 1.) The lit of January tually '; and when the more began trong declaration to w is noble [alluded, namely, that tria had nits with the Allies, whatever aces she was determin carry out Led therefore, my lo Austria acting to deceive us I say she avised manner,be cause ly result og out her own bad in more only object which s aid thus if was to retard or cri our mill- is she never attens to do. any sums" which gained he loudest satisfaction Vienna; 11 remember the telegra despatch lustria to the Emperor o e French land, congratulating them en th sop- a, and desiring to be immosiated with Major F who paid . not be ob j character Ma might cation. 1 property, meats the hardship It surely that elm having to that prop Could not At this I *much a not have mot be d 4 distrus• this hous trust. 1 measure people • purposes time wh woo Me °Lisa a exclud ei about 11 VOID DO In the period be hope teat it 1 tainly politic Aft, Mr. whict rially and tl Ma Lion c artilh earth and COUTO in th meat waif pita inflic were duty to • 1 disci Will whit V" ei cb re h 4