The Express. — London, England, 1850-06-26 00:00:00

IMPERIAL MARL [AM ENT. HOUSE OF LORDS —TrzeDA2, Jinn 25. The Imes set at lief( -past 4 o'clock. YU mil sweat wee "tan to Pintos Read Maley sad thirteen ether bids. wee a patios by lb. Beal of CHICURATUR sna sompried by L led BROUGHAM sib some reinarks illsolcallia elks outlaw bre rivenience ationdisi tke die senalmans• aft thaiday dolma. a by tire Posnoaes- Th. Lacasksid Tenure of Load (Inbred) Act Aniondsteat Dill west tames\ committer atter seas ceavasatioa k arm sa d a Lod BRSOMMISA, the Marl el Wicklow. ddm Mar gals of Wintamistb. TM Criss sad Oswego AM (Ireland) Coatlnasses Bill ales went through committer. The Nagai. cit LONDONDERRY kiwis" palpated as. l Monday las nodes cesarean' tke proposed abolition et tke laelt vier royalty. Their lostehipa adjoined at kalt-pa.t 6 o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Tutsper. Joss 25. Tim epsAxas took the chair at Isar Vets*. SUGAR D UTIB.S . Mr. G. BIRKILBY gave amiss that, as Tamby the 16th of July, kii would mew that the house do resolve itself fns sometimes Orr the metros of taiga into sessideratiss the Art 111 k sad 121 k Vie., with Monate to the dilate.- Mel duty bemire eleve-grows aid colonist sagars, Wended to be abolished is 1134. NON-PELIVBRY OF LITTERS ON SUNDAY. Mr. LO gave sake that, ea Timidity the 9th July, ke would all the atteaties el the bows is the sabjeet el the soa-delivery of Mime as &today*. (Rear, hear ) MALT TAX. Mr. CAMAY begged to postpone the motion of which ho had ems metes for that day, for repealing the malt tag, le Friday week, July. OFFICIAL BUILDINGS. _ . _ Mr. BANKEB get notice that on the I6A July he west 121M1—" Coondering the kfie animist of expeaditur• neasfamed by the gradually Manned weber of buildings applied to odldel pinpoint, it is expedient tber in future no charge of this kind Iliad be incurred without previous n femme to parliament." CUSTOMS REGULATIONS. Mr. LACEY wished to know hen the right hon. gentle fan the Secretary to the Treasury " whether the facility about to be jaded to passengers landing at Folkeemse and Dover of speeding by the trains with their luggage, with out iamet or delay, may not be extended to pentagon from Frames ankle* at iuthampton 1" Mr. HATTER misunderstood to state is reply that the eases wen very diseiniler, as in the can of Folkestone and Dover trains started at night en the arrival of the packets, so as to enable parties to arrive early in tuition, and, conse quently, facilities oil that ground aboard be more or less afforded. (Hear, hear.) EXHIBITION OF 1851.—TILE TREES IN HYDE YARN. In reply to a qusstion from Colonel 811TAORT, as to what the authority was by which several noes, cut down in Ryder park had berm tut down, sad whether the power was baited, and if for what was termed a commission to afford accorandation for foreign mukets, and the importation or warehousing of foreign goods ? Lord J. RUSSELL -*plied that the trees cut down bed been removed by the authority of the Chief Commissioner of Woods and Forests. With respect to the other question,—this commis sion—that had nothing to do with the telling of the trees ; and. consequently, could not be mixed up to the matte. (" Hear, hear," matt leeghter.) Col SIBTHORP—Thaw I tire notice that I will bring t►e question, an impogrant rob, before the hone, and also the very unsatisfactory answer of the noble lord. (" Bear, bear," and laughter) COMMISSION OF SEWERS. Lard DUNCAN said that owiag to the not satisfactory answer he remind tea question a few days since, he felt it his duty to pay a visit to No. 1, Greek -street, Salta. Oa examiaing the record book he found no miont• had been made therein subsequent to the B.h of February, 1840. (Ott, oh.) NJer the question he wished to ask wee, why no written re cord of the proceeding■ of the Commissienen of Sewers wee kept since the Bth of February. 1830, pursuant toll &12 Viet. ? (Hear, hear.) Lard EBRINOTON stated in reply that he made it his duty to inquire into the facts of the ease, and had ewer talaed that. a:though the former minute book had been en- tered up from time to time only as suited the eonereeience of • the clerks—(. hear, hear," from Logi Dineen. and general laughter)—yet the verily minutes wen kept and pub lished for the use of the C3WWWWO4OI9. Its saw in print that day retorts of the courts held is April and May, and the :vac& of courts held in June were ready to be put into ;the hands of the printers. A. that plan answered all the 'purposes of the •ommissioners, he did not see it was of suck tesportaam that every particle, minute should be entered. (" Oh, oh." sad laughter. ) Lord DUNCAN—I WA t to know, from what the noble lord has stated. it the records are printed previous to being entered on the minute book (Hear, hear.) Lx! EBRINOTON—I be.; to state, in reply to the ques itioa of my noble friend, that such is the CM*. (" Hear. ," ail renewed laughter.) THE LOSS OF THE ORION. An HON. iictiLiaiiisied tcilutOWwbMber any in qairy had been instituted with regard to the melaaeholy lose of life aback had takea place at the wrack of the eteam,ltip Orion. She LORD ADVOCATE said the nougat the melon nisei occurrence became known, steps were taken for hewing the Circumstances investigated, and he believei it would be .hl. duty to bring an Ladle meat against the neater and the second mate of the venal - 86 - FAY LETTERS. Kr. tO;sic tiegOvT;useut whether there wee lay insecurecy ia the report which had been cireulated that her hicjeety amid no:. by an order is cosecil, do away with the Post-orate reculAtioce - The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would give an answer to the quatien which he apprehended the hon. member had metal to put. (Longh.er.) He apprehended that what the boa gentleman iatended to ask wee whether the goverstaest ban pawn without a set of parliameat to p t the delivery of letten on Suaday. In asking that quaati• a the ►on. pat:teema summed that under the existing law the delivery of letters was imperative. That was not the can; Men was no act of parl.ament rendering the deli very of them amosseny ; and therefore there eou:d be no doubt that the government possessed the power which they had ezereised. 111r711IiiiYARD—Sappoie th. government were to choose to deliver letters only thou dap in the week, does the hoe. gentleman mean to say that they would have the power ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that though he dit not at all object to the system of putting questioci to the government, he thought a best not to answer hypothetical gnestiosw. (Laughter.) Mr. HILDTARD would, thee. give notice of his inten tion to put the gqnae•ion. The CHANCELLOR of the EX.CHF.QUER said the boa. gardenias should bar in wiled that what he objected to was Wag galled epos to answer hypothetical questions. ORIICIL-ADJOURNED DRBATE. Mr. B OSBORNE, oa rising to reopen the debate, Raid : &r,—ln n.y mind this ie not a discussion to be conducted ea :petty details. The point, as it occurs to me, for our eassiderstica is how far the iattroatioad principles of our bre* polity are to be regula!ed aeeordisg to the este bliahed mode of aatioss, and how far British commerce and British sabierts ars to be protected by the government of this innuttry. We have to consider, sir, whether the foreign assristagy of this country is to merge into a placid and com pliant tool—a mere meomaton whine band is directed, and wham moves are mad.., by the wily and unites th iamin of • foreign prompter. (Hear, hear.) We are not merely raid upon to give a vote of confidence Is her Majesty's ministers ; we are called upon to maintain the honour and ladependenee, aid, I will adi, the glory of Great Britain. (Chian.) And, sir, before I advert to other subjeme ia debits, 1 must take the liberty of expressing my surprise that this question has bees al:owed to be brought forward in its present shape by as independent member of porlisment, who, so far from having any sub stantial daisys upon the government, as has been insinuated by an bon. gentleman of hie own profession, has alwsys sated en independent, and, SO I think, a merit.- 1401111 pert in this hoots. (Cheers.) Sir, I liatened with anus anent to the sentiments uttered by en boa. and leaned gentleman, *whom I suppose I 'boll live to me a judge in this land; I refer to the hen. and learned member for Abingdon (Sir F. Thesiver). What did that hoe, and learned member tel: the hots'? H- surd that for yearn he had disliked the foreign policy of the government, and that he thought it not only eel-elated to embroil as with foreign notions but to imperil the peace of the world. He told us this lost night ; but whet nee been the eonluet of the hon. and 1 d gentleman ? I'T four yearn he Ikea been content to sit upon thee+ benches without ever minis, his voice against the foreign policy of via government ; and we saw last night that he is a gentleman who has fed upoo blue-hooks till they have become a part of his gyres". TM right hon. member for Kira* (Sir I Graham) presented himself to nor er.tioa loot night. as he told us, with greet reluctance; but I must own the' I could not dimmer either from the mane., or the molter of hie speech that he pommeled any reluctance (lerauhter.) I think I sin justified in sae* that that speech woo characterised by a quality which is seedbed to lAdy Soetrerel! in "The fithve tor Scandal," by that "delimit" of tint and mellowest' of sneer" which is the distinguishing mark of the political scandal of the right bee. Iffliti•- mut. (Cheers.) And, sir, I culd not help being reminded when tie preluded hie speec h with compliments, cod w i t h sh e eepee.oion of his feelings of friendship for the noble lord, I amid not h.lp brio" reminded of some se th ose en. rim .tni and migiity eni-hats of the deserts of South Ata..r:ca, those large repents which ere said to embroider their vi , vine with their snliv• b dere they mike • meal upon t h e i r t ew ii, ((h ea t laughter,) The right hos. baronet of hie frien.lnhip for tee noble lord, hut I own it yrs , k Inc, and it occurred to stony people near me, that he woo Reinp!itrinet the truth of the remark of Rouctiefoueslt, here ie ' , earthing ogrerebin to us, or lot disagreeable, is the mistiattanes of cur heat friends." (Mach laughter.) I had ways torn in the habit of supposing thet the tight ono?, parched on the tried brach titer, (alluding to th.otiriaiti in ionettea), was looked arta am • a art of guardian at.gel of her Majesty's ministers ; that be was, in fact, The aweet I ',Penh that elta Waft To take wee of the hh. of a we rasa. (RAI* I.,uebter.) But, air, .bat bas been the eluded of the tight boa. baronet ? Nit watent with aritieisiag the dusk affair it appears that he has always dissented from the policy tithe 'ebbs lord the Secretary for Fx er t Affairs. Well, if se, be has pressed rather am hel nay wane is this house. (Hem s XF . J aa. eliner u r been for went of ‘ e l ipartuaity. The (Me, got • always as hit pe ;he was in the eves trlls . hoe. gentles= to whom, though I des pea aliN. Ve I give the fullest credit fur k entalitour, —I mean the has member ;o l i l trteiford—mo er impeachment The right hatienenble, gee slam taken a great part of his • speich • from ‘-that of the honourable member; the mambo of Mr. Urquhart has fallen on the boa, member for Ripon t bat en that esenehmi he was anneiogly 'Seat Bet, sir, he ainesstalbsst the Spanish policy date noble lord. His eoadnet ha geheimose to that question km been equally es•nordinary. In Jaw, 1849, the boa. member be Demeashin, who le an era sa l candid foe—(eame)—and wife dm not support people for four years to hick Ohm MAN ifth--(reaewed einers)— brought forward a Mew in this house deprecating the whole town Meer pillisplaftalla, especially as rwgarded the Interference whisk less Owed Me by the right boa. gentle. men the member far )apes. Meet was the eons of the right boa. baroaet ea last assinien ? Why, though another right has baronet, whth va =lta i ve always bees, I th ink, at best et • esenaw a oglater)—l refer to the right hos. baronet the member hr Tageworth—though that right his. basest "demismi with faint praise" ea that cc • wise, sad said that he wail pats to the "'Boleti an before the bouts, that eacedlent sepparter of her Majesty's govern. meat, the right has. baronet the member for Rips wee silently contest. (Laughter.) But I will go farther. The right boa. baronet while pining is review the foreign policy which has been peened all over the world, said, " See what you have done by your foreign'policy in Portugal ; Costa Cabral is emanated in authority at Lisbon." Why did sot the right hon. baronet see that is the year 18413 1 (Hear, hear.) Oa the 11th of June, 1849, the hos. member for Montrose brought forward a distinct motion deprecating oar inarterence in Portugal. I lop ported that motion ; but am I, bean I supported that motion two years ago, to come down to the house now, and, raking up the put, to tell the 'obis lord that I have always been his supporter, sad that now I will damn him for hie virtues, which the right bon. gentleman refused to do for his vices ? (Hear, hear, and cheers.) I am no slavish admirer of the noble lord; there are several plants in his policy of which I disapprove; but, on the whole, I think he is a great and noble foreign minister, sad one who, under all circumstances, is an honour to England. (Loud cheers.) Bust what was the course pur sued en the °cession in question by the right hon. baronet lb. member for Ripon ; fee I will not run away from that question. (Claws.) Oa that occasion, I well remember, there were three nights' debate is this house on the expedi tion to Portugal. is. gentlemen opposite were, as they bare always been, direst and open toes of the government; they are honorable opponents, anal as eneb I respect them. But what did the right hon. baronet do 1 There were, se I said, three nights' debate. By some misfortane Dr. Bowling, of whom I would speak with great respect, happened to &darns the house. The night was hot; the papers which Dr. Bowring brought with him were voluminous; Dr. Bowring spoke in the style in which the hon. and lensed member for Abing don addressed the house last night; and the house was counted out. (Laughter.) But • most remarkable debate ensued. The right hon. member for Wpm was accused of having connived st the counting out. (Laughter.) Well, sir, he defended himself in terms very similar to those which ! have bcost used ; but he added—and this was remarkable—as if y way of giving a finishing stroke to the discussion, "As re. garde the Porturuese question, I conscientiously, thoroughly, and entirely approve of the policy of her Majesty's govern. ment—(" hear, hear." cheers, and laughter) —and had I bun peanut .0 my flea I should have gives my honest vote m support of her Majesty's ministen.' . (Loud cheer.) And yet, Sir, we find the right hon. gentleman, two years after, coming down to the hou-e, of course with great 'elec tive"; (laughter) thee! things are always done with great reluctance, spinet oar particular friends— (loud laughter) and I must say the right hon. gentleman has load both • gnat many friends and • great many eoileagues —(•• hear, hear," :alai laughter)—we Row find him, I say, coming down to the house, and saying at the elev. nth hour, " I think you, lord Palmerston, an ex anent man and a hied friend, and a good Chririan, but you area dangerous foreign minister, arid must be got rid of." (Hear, hear) Well, sir, I say nothing with regard to the candour of the right hon. baronet in pursuing sack a course. I leave that to • discriminating public. (Cheers.) The public will sea in this the jesuileal evasions of Hewn.% chicanery rather than open, honest, candid conflict in Regr ind political warfare. (Loud cheers) Now the right bon. baronet west into vanities points; and mandarin,/ his groat reluctance—(lsnghter)—l am surprised that he should have quoted the pamphlet that be did. I shoust have thought teat his particular friendithip for the noble lord would hare led him to inquire whether she alleged facts I were true before footing them (Cheers.) He quoted • pamphlet of the Doke of Broglie's son-is-law w.th regard to the Swiss intervention. Well, now, we all know that that pamphlet contains not only one untruth but m .ny I untruths. He also referred to other suSjae a, to the shim of weather under which the fleet in the Dar &Luella was compelled to go into Dinka Bay, and he adverted to • despatch of Prince Metternich. I am content to leave these two facts to be answerod by the noble lord the Secretary of Foreign Affair", an 1 if he do not Capon of them as easily as 1 think the conduct of the risht hon. member for Ripon is to be disposed of, I should a'most be content in this division to go into the same lobby with the right hon. baronet. (Hear.) I say that if this roan try is to permit • man to remain silent for four years, end then to come down in the eleventh hour and denounce tie minister whom be had been all that time aupportiug, there is no man more fitted to be at the head of its affairs than the right hoe. member for Wpm. I have said thus mach, be , cause it is rumoured abroad that like Cole's. the right bon. baronet Is at this moment in search of a party (Laughter.) I am not about to disinter • whole Lost i Mee books, going ovcr the last four years, bat 1 must say with regard to this contemptible discussion with the pinchbeck monarchy of Oren*, that in my opinion the oritioal sin lay in ever setting up such a monarchy. (Hear. hear.) I entirely dissent from that act,—it was not the act of the noble lord —from the policy of setting up • Russ:an puppet is the bunt. ( lieu. hear.) Idoso on other grounds than its being merely a puppet of Russia. 1 lir.k upon that act as a breath of our aboolate engagements with Turkey. (liar, hear.) Because it ought te h e revb lasted that at the congress of Verona they not only rc'esod to receive the Oreek deputies, but Lord Strangtord, our ambassador at Constantinople, was di puled to make the following communication to the Turkish government, and this is important and worthy the attention of the house because I believe in such a thing as retributive justice. Lord Strangford said, "The congress of Verona recognise. the Greek question a. one belonging to the internal affairs of the Porte, in which no foreign power ought to intermeddle." (Hear, bear.) M hat did the foreign powers do after ? They directly violated the assurance given at congress, and hast ened to indulge in • Quixotic attempt to improvise • free constitution in a country which was totally unfit either to work or appreciate it. What has bane the consequence ? We are now obliged to correct the spoiled child of our adoption ; and what has happened ? We gave the character of injured innocence to this contemptible sovereignty of Oren*. We have actually given a character to her rulers, to that minister who almost reeks .1 the description of Ingenism Teo; audaela perdita, sermo Proaaphn to those ministers whose whole ptiociple and motto seem to be— Rue la the state that pays. —(Cheen and laughter.) Surely there is no gain to civili sation in such • state of things. (Hear, hear.) Now, lam very hir hose attempting to deny, in contemplatiog the transactions whioh have given rise to this nation, that it was Mr. Finlay's own fault that he settled in the Piraeus, or that Sonnebi was tortured with a refinement of cruelty which the noble lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs had properly characterised, but that does not alter the argument. It is in vain to quote Vett or to cite ire agir.ary cues. I want to know what the house would recommend a foreign minister to do, when British subject. ere plundered, im prisoned, and tortured, when redress is first postponed, then refused, and at last put off to that imaginary period the Greek Kalends. (Hear, hear.) It is very well for • noble lord in another place to rain• paltrlcugh at the invntory ,: of the plundered man's effects. ( Rear, hear.) But how would the noble lord himself like, if his own house kad t'een ransacked, to have the inventory of his daughter's wardrobe shown up before the public to raise • laugh at tib'expense (Loud cries of " Hear, bear.") It is true that the noble hoed voted against the Jews' Bill, and ie • Jew, but although he is a Jew I am not 'ware that there is any law shutting bins out from potation for his person and property. (Cheer.) What tithe real fact about Pacifico? It ii carefully kept out of the Mae books; bat the truth is, that Pacifico had sold land to Hiatt Otho, for whi:h he only received at first part pay , meat. His having pressed for the remainder was the great ground of offence. Pacifico is • p ior 02111 and must suffer. I do not know that Otho is a rich man, but he is a king, and there are great allowances mide, especially in another place, fw great men. (A laugh.) But it has been endeavoured to prove, in connexion with this case, that Pacifico had no house at all, but • mud cabin; and several ingenious arguments have been founded on the structure at his house, u if the outrageous violation of • maa's house was to be palliated by the craziness of its liqueurs " Such, however, is no: the fact as regards Pa ' Mica's house. The house which has been represented as a mad cabin was a wow] three story house. (" No, no," from an ben. member.) The hr.n. member will excuse me, he has been in Greece, in.! is aware that it is built in Con stantinople style, and that it is the house in which the chief of the councils of regency, Count Armiuisperg, lived, and moreover that King Otho, when he came first to Greece, did not tbiak it beneath his dignity to perform in it the part fit which he is best qualified by dancing in It at afire given by C nut Arenmspenr. (Cheers and leug'tter.) It has also heensaid, why did not Mr. Finley apply to the Greek courts, and the boo. and learned mem ber for Abingdon shook his head, and that other hen. member, the great reformer of the day (Mr. Gladstone ) also Jo-k his head, aa if Mr. Finlay had committed • fetal error by Lot applying to the Greek wort. Is the right hoes. gentleman aware what these Greek courts are T--is he aware that the judges are removable at the King's caprice ? (Hear, hear ) Is he aware that the president of the Ares pegu, the highest court in that mistrable kingdom, was dkosissed by the King in 1847, and that the gentlem in so dismissed was a man distinguished fur hi, ability and ue blemished honour? Talk of going to Gre-k courts for redr es! The hun. gentleman must have forgotten his Greek—flaughter I —he must be totally ignorant of the con stitution and practices of the so called Ore k govern. meet. I am not going to drag the house through a waste of blue books with regard to Finley's ease, or to treat it as • case at nisi prism, a danger which I think the right hon. baronet s the member /or THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JUNE 26, 1850. Ripen did not altogether avoid. (Hear. hear.) Bat I Wait I may apply to it the words of a great antherity, that se outline s however Mumble, eaa itt safl a e . . 11 ( i ne tte t ie ..1 sooty, withered detente I 1•011 i 481." " a c ta sa to 4•1164°° ogellie menu s is se t flit' se to WAY =lt h as e a noel arida sadtt as aa he is sethe his . I wale house d e ts kw, bed WO, halt itself or g wlisTefefe this la vetereeiviet ea ad h ligg• wa the Se. =kr Forsiga A ff eirs7 W lreer, .) Have they not et that it le because Is Identified on the continua sr with nopoasible tieruatent and the Meanie cog egilaions 1 (Meer, hear " and cheers) I IMP tale isgenneesell to sat that the noble lard in- Nemo/ aig swear ef despitisse—had he been praised llefierelelt or tribe Zemke thleisier—bed he fete the Isfeees of their seljede-41eed.axis. of "hear, bovi— ne/ bib gives Up carte= if thdilli-elelsed rat jette to an ift. aidiainill death through theeleiney elf ell their letters opened in MisoMeatey—(hear)—had be dens this, the acts which are ewer as maligned, would have been the theme of praise from **whets band of his calumniators. (Loud churn.) The whim lead hes see dime se, bat the aellis lord has been = a a gnat eta= Uwe are aliltlets In the in as sable ember fee IliteG. and I'll sell the aoel lh e S lord and the hese whet they we. The noble lord always advocated sod seppesisil seaselbationsl govern ment in Spain. The noble kid wag gulky el sympatbising with Ita li an liberty. The MY, lord illuented from Russian "indispensable" iaterforeses la Hangaile The noble lord recognised the republic of Noes. (fused cheers.) These are grave charges in the eyes of these who would mike Rayons a hero, and Nicholas a demised. (Hear, hear.) The mere queetion of Greece is a paltry preteace. It is in Oran that the northern Aroblesedes wishes to rest his lever by mesas of which he hopes to push back prosperity and liberty in the western world. To this end the noble lord is to be seerificed ; tat if he is to be sacrificed, I believe that you will light a flute in this country which will take all the plausibility of the right bon. lumber for Taraworth, with the able assistance of the member for Ripon, to prevent its having dangerous effects. I have said that Greece is • pretext, and I solemnly believe that a wide spread conspiracy has been organised to ruin the noble lord (hear, hear) a conspiracy in which ere-Kings and es:ministers, Kings without crowns and ministers without places, have joined with ministers with *am, bat, I had alma said, without characters. (Cheers ) This coaspiney has its ramifications in various quarter, not only in the saloons of Paris, but in the boudoirs of London. Nor is what is technically called another place quite free from these influnces. Of what use is it to make a seines= gallery for foreign diplomatists when their sentiments are expounded under English exteriors ? (Hear, hear.) When we bear men who have been ministers, and expect to be so again, explain the eights of Englishmen as they have done, of w hat age setting • gallery apart for foreign diplomatists ? Why, they are an the floor of that house. (Loud cheers.) I sok you will you permit the noble lord to too put down by such means, by letters from " our own correspondent " (hear, he ar)—wbo, in company with Russian and Preach agents, hes been decorated—l should have mid degraded—(Rev, hear)—with the Greek order' of our Saviour for his services in writing letters to the Tines? (A voice—" Who is be?" " Order.") 11, has been so de , aerated, but I am delighted to hear that old Genera! Church ' bas declared that he never will wear his decoration again in consequence of such degradation. (Loud cheers.) I rup ee*" he considers now that, instead of the order of our Saviour, it should be called the order of Judas Iscariot. (Chun and laughter.) I think that any man who has put his hand to such letters, betraying the interests of his own country, and humbling England in the eight of the world, is unworthy of either respect or heelball'. (Leud cheers.) But I would have the house to refl•et on the coasequence of the vote they are about to give. (lieu, hear.) Before the consequence of that vote the Greek ques. tion sinks into utter insignificance. It is not that we are about to vote confidence in the ministry, or in the character of our Minister for Foreign Affoir s • in my opinion we have far greater subjects to consider. We have heard nothing of the commerce of the country. (Hear, heir.) I say nothing about what may be deemed • mere rhetorical claptrap, the honour of our flag, but I would have hon. gentlemen to re fleet before they vote a reversal of our foreign policy. We who have ships in every sea, and merchants at stray port, what will be their situation, if you vote a rever sal of that pokey which has hitherto upheld them? (Hear, hear.) li.verse the foreign policy of this country, end your commerce is crippled, and, as I conscientionely believe, the progress of civilisation retarded. (Hear ' hear.) There is not a petty despot who will not peep from his hole and rejoice, not in the humiliation of the noble lord, but in the humilia tion of Great Britain. (Cheer) And I would address hos usenet= who represent ono real party in this country, and warn them of the conseque.oces of their vote. Of course they will vote against the noble lord, bat let them contem plate the consequences of their vote. (Hear, hear.) Have they forgotten how they were treated before ? Are they desirous that — For itoneuo's Wile we should ell our need— For time the itTOCIOOP moue be deetroy ed. They may rest sad-fled that the country is net yet ripe f it them. But I say for one that I would sooner see that party in power than that of the right hon. baronet. I know what their measures are, but I cannot trust or confide in the party headed by the right hoe. member for Tamwortb. (Hear.) I can trust to no party who, having supported the govern ment four years, turn round upon them in the fifth, when they think that government is in the agonies of death, in the hope of mounting to fame, perchance to plane on their dead b dies. For my owe part I have criticised, at the proper see fiod, the policy of the noble lord (Pelmerston). With regard to Portugal in 1847, I thought the noble lord wrong in that policy at the time, and think so still—but I will give no tuli ps= fellowship to this motion. I cannot stop to cringe= an unguarded or imprudent word here or there, when I see the interest of England at stoke —(hear, heir)—and, Sir, I shall, therefore, support the motion of the hen. and !earned member for Sheffield with pride and pleasure. (Much cheering.) Lord J. DIANNERS 'contrasted the sensitivenen of the ministry to British wrongs in Greece, with their duellists nest to resist the plunder and ill-treatment ef English work. men on the railroads by the French republicans. He be lieved the the Pahnerstocian policy, by alienating other countries from Eogland, was more cslrulatei to iovi:e this repel t h e dossituu.cy of Russia over Europe. Ref/Meg to leveed recent instances of diplomacy, the noble lord con •erli d that the results as want tested in Portugal, in Seitz 'r. land. and in Green, had by no means neared either the ' dig, ity of this country, or the peace of the world. In Italy the British dip!omatists had played the rob of partisans 1 abetting Chula Albert in his aggrewrion upon Austria, and ' comforting him under his defeat. The commercial conse quences of the propagandism of the Foreign Secretary he showed, by quotations from " no loss authentic a source than the Doily Newt," to have been the enactment, by the va rious revolutionary governments, of tariffs far more hostile than hitherto our • line of frontier extending fr-m the Car • pa•hisa mountaies to the borders of Saxony. Mr. C ANSTEY, after raising the preliminary objection to the voe before the house—that it was vague in its terms —said that, instead of conveying a direct negative to the re solution of the lords, it travelled over the whole question of foreign p Oley, and involved an affirmation of every act of diplomacy glace the accession of the present ministry to :rower. This twin approval he declared himself unable to give ; and, after detailing in • very prolonged address, the various incidents which had transpired during the last six years in the totem:nulls between the forrien secretary and other pmts.'', be admitted that to all that had taken place since February, 1848, he could accord a sincere concurrence, but could not join in the approbation expensed in the resolution u to the previous policy. Under this divergent impulse, therefore, he felt it to be his duty to vote neither way. Mr. B. COCHRANE superseded the allegation of props. gandism, brought against Lord Palmerston, by the more se rious charge of bad faith towards every nation of Europe. This charge the hon. member proceeded to substantiate by copious recapitulations of circumstances referred to in re• lstion to Switzerland, Austria, Piedmont, and Rome. Com menting upon what he characterised as the inceediery =le gion of Lord Min= into Italy, he reprobated especially the conduct of that nobleman in the Eternal City, when he stimulated the plosions of the mob, and even received pub licly into his b.: at the theatre the notoneus demagogue, Cicero:m=lM. A cordial interest was pretended towards the King of Naples at the very moment that his subjects in Sicly were being incited, through the medium of the Rog. heti consul, to throw off their allegiance and invoke the pro teetion of the Duke of Genoa. Declaring the whole policy, on some of whose features only ho had touched, to be eosin tial'y an-Enalish, he assured the house that this opinion was based upon long experience, and could not he modified by the result of the expected division, whatever it might be. Lord PALMERSTON, whose rising was accompanied by lend expressions of excitement and approbation, definee the =sae then pending before the house as far wider than a mere question of office ; it involved important paints of inter national law. In a question of such consequence, he consi dered that the conduct of the impugners of the =hinny was not befitting the character of the tribunal, or the gravity of the occasion. Whether inspired by a hope of taking the government by storm, or by a genuine disapproba tion of the ministerial policy, they ought to have laid the resolueion passed by the upper house before the commons, for their authentication. Now sir (said Lord Palmerston) the resolution before the House of Lords involves the future and the past. It lays down for the future a principle of national policy which I consider totally incompatible with the interests, with the rights, with the honour, with the digney of the country, and with the practice not only of this country, but of all other countries. (Cheers.) It is a principle which even the person who moved the resolution was obliged is his speech to modify—(bear, hear) —th oug h he did not think proper to insert in th e reso l ut i on which the House of Lards has formally recorded those modifications which he thought it necessary to introduce in his speech for the purpose of obtaining the concurrence of the majority in his resolution. The country is told that British subjects in foreign lands are entitled to nothing but the , protection which the laws and tribunals of the land in which they may happen to be may &fiord them. (Hear, hear.) The country is told that British subjects abroad must not look to the protec tion of their own coastry—that they must trust to that in different justice wekh they may happen to receive at the hauls of the gevernmeat and the tribunals of the country in which they are. The House of Lords has not s aid that that proposition is limited to sonstitutional countries. As fez as the country is informed, and as far as foreign nations are informed, the future rule of [mel t = gong. Wig IS to be that la all cease and ea all questioes, ear skids" ere oily to share that peotection whisk lOW ,they Mad Weeds. I deny that propsbidem: (roinitligen.) > I say k is • deetrine eleirlok no alai** besavaiyet se bald kis a &striae a IOW thi people of EDAM wig ' ender any minister to .tat. (Rekerated shwa.) De Ice.e be my that British sobjeits &roil en* be above iser-esabot they are to be elm* from, so Sakai eat of the mope of the kw of the land ? I mesa go suck thing. (Hear, bear.) Undoubtedly, in the Ant iniessos, and where the kw it soplkalie, British sob§esee are Wand to km rescues kgeoluese to the means old* the kw of the land offistothein. That Is ale *aka which our legal advisers have &vests fitanumerable mess, and that is the opinion on which we kin founded car replies to &pollee; tions which have boss made to se fee interposition Is Amur of British aubjeeta &bread. Is the irk plea% if our 'abject, have complaints against imilviduals, or egotist the government, if the gOtellalNlSS le liable to the prossedinp of a court, no doubt to the souk of justice &lath subjects ought to apply. Bat there are an Malty of oases is whisk either there is no emilikees in tribunals, or the tribuaels are, from their composition sad nature, not of a character to umpire us with any lope arcoolidenee of obtaining Jostles at their hands. (Hear, hear.) It has boss ssid, "We do not mean to apply this to arbitrary sad despotic governments, because there, evideatly, the tribunals are midge the miatrol of the government, sad justice is not to be expected from them ; we do not mesa to apply it to nominally ossatitn tional governments, where the tribunals are corrupt." Who is to be the judge of that ? ("Hear, hear," sad sheers.) The British government, or the pvernmeat of the state from which you expect redress ? (Hear, bear.) Well, 1 1 now, I will take a case which happened not long ago as an example of the cases in which I am sure the people of England would not permit a British subject to be simply amenable to the laws whisk might happen to exist la a fo reign country. Ido not talk now of the power of en auto crat to send any man arbitrarily to Siberia ; I do aot speak of countries where the nature of the constitution vests arbitrary powers in the sovereign. I will state • ease which happened not long ego In Sicily. A decree was passed that any man who was found with concealed arms in his pos session should immediately be brought before • court-martial, and, if found guilty of the offence, be shot upon the spot. Well, now, this ease happened. Au innkeeper at Catania was brought before a court martial, and charged by two °Mean of police with having committed this offence. The officers had discovered in an open stable in this man's yard • knife. It was a tea -1 pealed weapon. The accused was brought before • court-martial; witnesses were examined; the examination ended. The counsel for the prosecution said, " I give up the ease: there is evidently no proof either that this knife ' belonged to themes accused, or, if it did belong to him, %et he was aware that It was in the place when it was found." The counsel for the defendant said, '• Such being the opinion of the counsel for the prosecution, it is unite. canary for me to go into say defence. I leave my client In the hands of the court." The court declared that the man was guilty of the charge brought against him, and ilk neat Morning he was shot. (Hear, hear.) Now, I ask, what would the people of England say, if a British subject were so treated, or what would they think of relying for redress on tribunals so constituted, and yet they are part and parcel of the Law of the country. (Loud chum.) ' Well, I say, that prima facie our doctrine is, that redeem I should be had through the laws and courts of the country, but that in awes where redress cannot be had, and particu larly where the injury has been done by the government i'eclf, or,its officers, another Wens must be taken • in short each case must be dealt with on its own particular merits, without say general rule. There are constantly occurring numbers of cases which convince the British government that if invariably British subjects were to seek redress in foreign countries only through the courts of law, the effect would be to deprive them of all chase. of that redress which they w.re entitled to receive. ( Hear, hear.) Then the question arises how this rule applies to the de mands we have made on the government of Getter. I ought in the first place to stile the nature of our relations with Limos, and the condition in which that country has beta for some time, because those relations and that condition are material elements in considering the propriety of the course we have adopted. (Hear, hear.) It is well known that the Greeks revolted sprout the dominion of Turkey in the year lelO, and that in IS2$ England, France, and Rune, deter mined to interfere and employ forcible means to compel Turkey to acknowledge the independence of Greece. It is also known that in 1833 (Puce was, by protocol on which a treaty was founded, erected into a separate and independent state, and that whereas ism the year 1820 up to the time of the treaty in 1833 she had had • republican form of government, the three powers then determined that she should have a monarchy, to which the British government consented, with the indispensable cendition that it should be • constitutional monarchy. The British go vernment would ne-t be a party to molting Greece inde pendent of Turkey, with a government as arbitrary as that from which she had revolted, and consequently, when the three powers, In the exercise of thou fuuctiocs which had been given to them by the general assembly of Greece, chose &sovereign for that country—for the choice was made in consequence of an appeal from the general assembly—an 1 selected King Otho, they announced at the same time that he would, in conjunction with his people, give to the country a representative government. (Hear, hear.) That communi cation on the part of the three powers was ratified by a corn munication from the King of Bavaria speaking on behalf of his son, who was then a minor. It was understood that during the minority of the King, the question should be suspended, and that when he came of age ate should then enter into communication wi'h his people and that together they should frame a constitutional go vernment. King Othocime of ape, but no constitution was given to the country. (Hear.) 'I here was a disicelination on the part of the advisers of the crown to fulfil that engage writ, and the government of England expressed its opi nion in various ways and through various chew:els that that engagement ought to be fulfilled. (Hear, hear.) But opi nions of a different kind reached the royal ear from other quarters. (t. Hear," and a laugh.) Countries with arbi teary formsof government naturally prefer their own sys tem, and therefore I do not reproach Russia and Prussia that they used their influence to prevent King O:bo giving • constitution to his subjects. But we thought that in France we should bad a sympathy of political cpioion. (Loud cries of tt Hear, hear.) Bat In that respret we were unfor tunate. (A laugh.) The government of France, while not at all undervaluing popular institutions, thought that the time had not come when the Greek nati.n was ripe for representative powers. I should have mentioned that Butris took the same side, and therefore from the time when the King came of age, the British government stood in this position in Greece, that while wo were known to be anxious for the fulfilment of engagements which had been made to her people, all the other powers were averse to their being fulfilled, or as leant not at all anxious for their fulfil ment. ( Hear, hear.) Well, sir, that necessarily placed us in a situation in which, to say the least of it, we were exposed to disfavour from the existing government I was tinny for it, but I do not think the people of this country will be of opinion that, for the sake of securing the good will of the Greek government, we should have departed from the prin ciple we had laid down. Yet so it war; and when people talk of antagonistic isftuencee at the Greek court, and say that our minister was employed in struggling as to who should appoint nomarchs and ether petty officers, I beg to say that it is a complete mistake, and that Sir E. Lyons , from the time he went there to the time he went away, asked the smallest favour for himself or any other person. (Hear.) There wee, therefore, no con test of the low and petty description that has been alluded to. Well, sir, one evil of the absence of constitutional institu tions was, that the whole system of _government grew to be full of various kinds of abuses. (Cheers.) Justin could not be respected when the public tribunals wen at the mercy of the adv:sers of the crown. (Hear, hear.) The same might be said of the fiances, as no confidence could be placed where there was no responsibility on the part of those who spent the revenue. Every sort of abuse was practised. It is well known that throughout all the latter time, of Greece, and in consequence of the daring habits of the people there bas prevailed a system of appropriation— ( Laughter)—forcible appropriation by one man of that which belonged to another, very disagreeable to thou on whom it was inflicted, and exceedingly injurious to the social improvement and prosperity of the country. (Hear ) In sh or t, that which foreigners called brigandage prevailed very much under the Tuke, and I am sorry to say continued under the government of King Otho. To this it must be added that the police committed *bum of the grossest description, and if I wanted evidence in support of that amertion,ll should appeal to tho gentleman who has just sat down, and who, in a pamphlet, has detailed the barbarities practised by those functionaries. I could read the depositions of persons who had been exposed to the meet abominable tortures—tortures inflicted upon both sexes, and in the most revolting and dis gusting manner. (Ilrar, hear.) One of those police offi cers was a man named Zeno, who superintended himself the infliction of these abominable tortures. This pitman, I am sorry to say, escaped punishment, and was subsequently in gnat favour in quarters where he ought only to have been looked upon with indignation and contempt. (lieu, hear.) Such being the state of things, we have always had in Greece • number of persons whom we were bound to look after and protect, • great number of Mattes* and lonians, and • great number of British subjects. It soon became the practice of the Oeesk police to make no distinction in their tortures between their own poop', and foreigners. In the dimuasion of this question we have frequently heard of special pleading. I am sorry to say that it has been discussed in a temper and tone which I think was neither becoming the persons of whom the discussion woe made, by whom it was made, or the peril, a before whom it was made. (Cheers.) It may eonietimve be more conve nient to treat natters with ridicule than with grave argu ment. We have had these matters treated in a ludicrous manner, and men kept for hours in roars of laughter at the indications of poverty, at the nationahty of one man and the religion of another. (Loud cheers.) As if hematite men are poor they are to be hastinadoed and otherwise tortured with impunity ,• that because a man had happened t o b e b orn i n Scotland he should be robbed without redress ; or that because another happened to be of the Jewitb I er suuion he was to get no redress, no matter what might have been the injuries inflicted. (Loud cheers.) Now, with regard to this ease, I shall take first that which would natu rally present itself to the minds of Englishmen, I mean the insult which was offered to an altar and boat's crew of see of her 's skips. Time km boon when men who ee -1 pined to pa statics would have eonsidered It part of their deity to the Wooer of the British flag, but Aimee are giumged. (Hear, hese.) The Insult was argued away is abeam It Mae said that the area were oily taken up by ealstahoo sad es discover est fro agile. Were we narmeonable la this mm ? All we asked was as apology. (Hear, hur.) I Mat thought I should not live to see the day whoa • IMO me* ia England woillable a uld think the deemed of • an apology for the unjestrrest of a British °Sole gad his men when In the perform 'ease of their duty, doubtful in its nature, and exaggerated fa marnat. (Cheers.) The meet fasts of the cue were them:—Tics sou of the viee-coorml dined es bawd the Fan. tome, and was taken en shore ha the evening by a coxswain and ots' Mew, WOW ow the beads, ad wonted to his father's house. The antswain on his return was arrested. by the guard, who, finding that the mea In the hoed had no arms, struck them with the butts of their muskets, acid emended one with • bayo net. They were than taken to the guardhouse, and after some oxplanatket released. Busses were given hill of imbeetatentents, but the gist of them was that the guard had mistakes the use, for a boat's grew of the Spitfire, and that May wen employed is landing escaped rebels, the rebel being a boy of 121.51. old. (Hear, hear.) Bat the fact was that a little while Woo, Is 00ceaasseegqawes of the disorganised state of Grows, which disorganimtioa had arisen entirely from the conduit of government In amnestying brigands, an armed hand had attacked the town of Pate's, and taken of it. There was a gOvernOT sad as armed forte, Ertt;s thou g ht that disereuos was the better part of va lour, end retired, leaving the towupeople entirely at the mercy of the brigands. The people of the town did not at all like their visitors, and, finding themselves deserted by their natural protectors, they threw themselves on the protection of the foreign consular body, and begged of them to make some arrangement with Merenditi, the brigand chief. They did so, and an arrangement wu effected, by which Mum. diti was to receive a certain sum and retire on safe conduct. The only safety he was satisfied with was a passage in • British ship, and, having received the money, he was marching slog the quay to embark, when the Governor, who bad hued of the arrangement, came out from his hiding-place end sought to captors some of the rear guard. But our officer said " No, there is not only houour among thieves, but honour to thieves. We have been asked to guarantee the safety of these men ; we have done so at the request of the townspeople, and their safety must be respected. ' (Cheers.) This was the cue for which we faked so moderate • repara tion. I come nest to the case of the lonians ; and first let me take three who were plundered at the custom•bause. Those men wen passing the custom-house in their boats, when they were hailed by the otllcor in command. The moment they landed he informed them that he was a prisoner in the bands of banditti, and immediately the boats were plundered. At the same time there was • Greek vessel lying in the port uninjured. Don't tell me of comparing thus to an attack at Terracina; I say that if a government is not able to protect its own customhouse, and that foreigners are robbed and plundered at that custom house by robbers in the disguise of revenue ofßcen, then surely Inch government must lo held responsible. (Cheers.) And that I suppose is the causer in which these unhappy lonian boatmen ought to have gone to law with the Greek government. (Hear, hear.) Why, it is a mockery to tell them so. (Hear, bear.) We 'eked for them hut a moderate compensation for their actual leases. We demanded nothing ter the personal indignity and injury they suffered, but sins. ply that they should be compensated for the property of which they had been deprived. (Hear, hear.) Then comes the other case of the lonians, who, innocently se the imagined celebrating a notional custom with flags and benners, are interfered with by the police, and compelled to take down their flags. I do not blame the Greek rovernment for that. Well, these lonises took down their flags, which wereseised. Some discussion took place about the inviolability of the Beglab flag —a discussion natural enough to arise under the circumstances, but we let that drop, and had this bean all that took plate, seething more would have been said , about it, except that it was • hardship that these people, when merely observing a national custom, should be inter fered with by the police, and their flags and bar non taken away. But this was not all. These men were arrested, manacled, sad thumbecrowed, end in that state were marched through the streets. (Hear, hear.) It had been said, he knew, " How could thy be taken to prison except through the streets ?" True; but it was not necessary for that purlieu that they should be marched through a number of streets that did not lie in the way, and par soled through the town. (Hear, hear.) And then as to the thumbserewing it bad been urged, " Well, the men were not hurt—they were not maimed for life; surely for merely thumbscrew. ing these men during a pleasant evening's walk you do not mien to ark for conipensation " (" Hear," acd a laugh.) Now, sir, I confess I take • different view of the ease trim those who use that argument. (Hear, hear.) Then come the case of the two men at l'yrgos, of whom it was said, is their houses were found to be inhabited by dis agreeable insects, their sufferimes and the injsry they may have been subjected to are subjects rather for merriment than serious complaint. (" Hear," and a laugh.) That, however, is not my opinion. Now it appears those men were taken up to • place, and Sagged with • whip, in the presence of persons woo say they saw them so fl egged. Now what richt bad they to be so treated ? (Hear, hear ) They had committed no offence, they had been tee d by no court, and had been sentenced to 0) pnoisbment. And for these compensation was demanded, not merely for the injury they had sustained, but to show the Greek government that the British government would not permit persons entitled to their protection so to be treated. (Cheers.) And, sir, I scorn to take the poverty of the men as • reason why parliament should think they were not entitled to that protection and to compuis:tion for the iei arks inflicted upon them. (Loud cheen.) Then, sir, we come to the else of Mr. Finlay. Now the statement with which we are met here is that Mr. Finlay was • canny Seotehmata who speculated in land, and that he had bought in the cheapest and wanted to sell in the de an at market, and was disappeinted in the latter ri epee: it was, after all, a mere case of diamond out diamond, and from the fact that the King of Greece was the stronger of the two, and pot the better of the bargain, he had no title to call for the interference of the British go vernment, and ought to have been norent with what the King of Greece chose to give him. (Hear, heat.) Now by our law, end by the law of most other civilised countries, when it is found necessary to take land for pub'sie tamers. s, or great cational works, no doubt the public good must always car nide private rights to this extent, that the owner must give up possession of his property to the state; but , then, on the other hand, he is entitled in the first place to have the value fairly ascertained, and to be paid the true and just amount that the property is worth—(hear, hear)—not that which the person who stizes the land may charter to award, but according to a fair and im partial valuation. (Hear, hear.) But in this case the land was not taken for any such publi: nurpose, but to contribute to the private enjoyment of the King of Greece. Mr. Finlay was perfectly ready to give up the land, always provided he was paid the fair value. Then, is there any rotten in saying, that bec.use I years before he had b ught the land at a very cheap rate, he was not entitled to receive a price in proportion to the increased value which under altered circumstances the property had acquired? Why, the commonest principles of justice between man and man would lead to this course cf proceeding in such a cue—that we are not to inquire what was the value when the property was purchased by him in the first instance, for that value might have increased or diminished, but what was the value when it was taken from him. (Hear, hear.) Now, I must own that the history of this case is one that all persons who feel an interest in royalty must cave read with extreme pain. (Hear, hear.) la 1643 came the rcvo'ution. Up to that time the government of Greece had contiuucd arbitrary, the King declining to agree to representative institution.. The patience of the Greek' at length became exhausted, arid in the year 1843 they rose et Athens and extorted by force that which he had up to that time refused them. (Hear.) When that constitution was established courts were condi tuted—not independent courts—for the judger were liable to be dismissed and removed from court to court atthe pleasure of the King or the government, as they often are, but courts were established in which we are told Mr. Finlay might have promoted his claim. But those courts had no cognizance imppened before ti,ey w e r e brought into existence, and, tat h coneequently, Mr. Finley had no remedy therein. (Hear.) But it has been confidently and trium phantly asserted as exhibiting the bad faith of the British government in the matter that we were aware at the time when Mr. Wyse made the demand on the Ore. k sovereign that the claim of Mr. Finlay was 'tale solutely, entirely, and conclusively settled." ([fear ) Sir, it was no such thing. (Cheers.) That assertiori is "absolutely, entirely, and conclusively" at yeti ince with the fact. (Loud cheers) There had been, it is true, an agreement fon referring the matter to arbitration, and a curious sample this adonis of the manner in which such things are carried on in Greece. The offer for arbitration was made—" Very good" said the government " refer it by all means. You stall name an arbitrator, and we will name another." Mr. Finlay saw, however, the possibility—which might have struck even a man not so far north—(laughter) —af the two &Alarrat n so appointed differing, and he sug gested an umpire. The Greek government replied, " You are quite right ; by all means let us have an umpire, and MO will appoint him." (Hear, and a laugh.) But Mr. Finley was unreasonable enough to object to submit his came to • tribunal where two to one of the judges would ti• against him, and he declined the proposal. Well, at length the Week government saw that this was an unreasocahle proposition, and en arbitration was agreed upon, the Arbi -1 Ureters to consist of respectable persone, with an umpire properly appointed. This was in October, and if the arbi tration hail gone on no doubt Mr. Imlay'. cue would have been absolutely, entirely, and conclusive ly settled. (Hear. hear.) But, by the law of Greece, arbitration so appointed must pronounce its award within three month., or, b ,y hips' of time, the tribunal fells and drops to the ground. Well, it appeared the commissioners could not make their award for want of certain documents, which documents could only be furnished by the officers of the Greek government, arid by some unfortunate accident—(a laugh) they did not furnish them, and the arbitratien tell to the ground. (Hear, hear.) M. Gros understood that this case was settled, and when the demand was made on behalf of Mr. Finlay, he wastage by the reply from M. tiros," Why, your case is settled " "No.' rejoined Mr. Finlay. " Whot l have you nut received the money ?" says M. Gres. " said Mr. Feulay, " I have not received a ferthieg . , nor has , the amount which I am to receive been settled ; • and, in fast, when M. Gros went to mediate, this case was in the MOSS state as it stood in previous t albs arbitration. (Hear.) Now, air, this was a case in which we made no specific demand but what we asked was merely that Mr. Finlay should receive whatever the value of the property taken from him might OD investigation tura out to be. We fixed no specific sums, and the sum ultimately awarded was, Mr. Wyse states, arrived at by taking the awards of the two arbitrators—the t h:towuen.t ..N o(lwires i ad f r .. )c h I e But, 1 1 r : a ,t ). ° I ti t . 17 . 1 -, u s - d k it e e •I. 44_•,..' I::;finanhci :111E,o1;ndsblier.::::cbanainsa.31:Mrdani414.1:oyutPistoTtaaciYrkai.drahadrimilnibomeeftnu.t.iikr.bis'iaPP"huwole-thivfie:adcc:ttoti.thedanfeihseteinc:4:::4,4l:l4,l:td:r-fteitillit:".;Sctiusi_e':;:-"1._:::1.411: hear.) AU I know is, th e e a f t :, - ro"ote which those stories relate, M. ? go of: cc :7 ' first as Portuguese consul to Morocco ... " A at Athens. and 1 can hardly step tlY t - C o : o ' government would have selected • of - iyA —. ....._ '.4 fill edifices of such importance. Me o 3 - 7,°••• beyon d dat imputation. not admit that because a man 'Mope t oo wrong, on so me other one Won, and t o e ts " ,, o ,„ dft , 1 ' which imilg:tr i h a atTkt e b e et t ie w nis o M u tbes. :l P b a e cifgfiv:s to wrong because we think that ; have some time or other done somettO c , ,---" Now, what happened in the case of AL pa=r tt midst of the town of Athens, and in a Lome sr ' ' ll' b e allowed to sav e was not the wretched tat e ' ? has been described during this deb , tt. - does not matter whether it wan a palace o lt r; - for in either a man should bo equally protect rz" jnetico-(heer, hear)-but In this house, elt clI was not a wretched hovel, but one which, r b t, I days of King Otho's reign, win the of Count Annausperg. the Chief of the Conan! , and of government officials, before the Eli o /- throse-(hear, hear)-M. Pacifico while Ito house, in the very midst of Athens, within forty 3 great street, and not two ',sinew,' distance hal house, where soldiers were stieioned, has hie hoe he is threatened by a mob, and an apolying for finds that no protection can be &Horded him. Ili soldiers and gendarmes, if not unde r the three their officen, are acting with their knool iih cent with the mob, which sou heads. son of the Minister of War, that vi e a mere child of 10 or 12 yeses of age, bat a y IS or 20. This mob, so composed and at. heade - d ' way icto M. Pacifioo's house, rtuoiced tea;, breaking and destrojing, and when they - ,.. 4 4 , and carried away all that it contained, oasnie nothing but a wreck. Is that a cue is whit!' i entitled to redress from somebody ? (11. 0 . humbly venture to thick that it it-shear, 4,.. Hem toere is no civilised country is soot; had sustained such a grievous errot g - nothing of pet:es:mat insult lad tau' on his family-I believe there is no civil:mg which a man who had sustained such a wron g . expect redress from some quarter Of other. i ) Where then was M. Pacifico to apply to r.. Greek government had neglected its duty el r judicial iuquiry into the outrage, and asOeng it of a government prosecution, u it mgot to have done, to discover toed put ., the c haract er.b be that party - es wro ng ed . 4u ( o willev o l:it : 6 ,°::::' a fenders. The son of the Minister of War ', out, and it was even said, if you !earth yon will find M. l'acitico's gads-yet coil kind was done and Id. l'ecifiso wee told no rc the courts of law. Why, what was he to el, :fore prosecute the parties crininally ? lie on . ; t. ,,, , tljing to avoid the cutrages with wo.ch they eased, and he says he believes ht owes ;Os ore tc friend. And if he could have Luce. •ut some of in the attack un his house he e.,,1 on:r hi evidence against a very few o t to tal t justify a prosecution, and wl.o; 'woo,. so, have been to him to have pro-mu:el .!.e .etnei that have re/eon il his property ~ WLat hs was revenge, but redreto. k l or that purpose a trim, ticn was out of the qeeslion, to say ranting art of AUCCCIS against government othoielo in ac. the legal tribunals are wholly under toe a etas , vernment and the crown, and where the fed: ,, be removed at pkasure. Thin way ha to prae wages? Aolinst whom would hi. act, oi cosi one man took his property. It w,a earn. stroyed by the mob. But sowed by poseibiL:y tare proved that some one ini away any cue pth:icular thing or deotioyeu article of turoi:ure, what coanco wood he success 1 What would have bea the runs of an expenove law suit, whien his legal adv. it would be vain to undertake, at all events iq 300 of the n.ioister of war. This toe then was a claim oot "unfounded in justice. and a laugh.) Tie amount we did not pretend o the Greek government hal admitted •he print.; . claim when appiication was made to them, ace. all the items of ace mut seat by 31. Fame, this is too much, that would have been a open for future Oiscustion, which our minister. Lyons, or Mr Wyse, would have been prepare.. cuss, and the result, no doubt, would hav a satisfactory arrangement of the amot But the Greek government denied altogether the of the claim, and when Mr. Wyse made the demo. cou.d do was to require that the claim 'Louil be se o that the money should be paid, but that the . should bes ada.i•te a within the time rpeclaed, v . . • Well, then, was there anything so ut cer.erous in o back our demand a force which sheu.d male i: ;.... the world that resistance was out of the querns ' seems to me, sir, that on the costrory it eves c r. , , with the honour and the dignity of the. r. r. t...-r.: ..i. we fluids those demands that there ssoo.. ' - o p.a.a a nUest before its eyes a forte wtidi it el- es.. :a res. upon which it car therefore, no iod : ..I a; ~ they failed toning! (Hear, hear.) 1: w. ~ 'tidal* and sloop of war, or any tone u:..._ se to.: thought it possible that title farce Moth: Late me, should, I think, have put them in . nothe use.: ea.... tion in asking them to yield to so :4a.al. a zme . at. fore so far from thinking that our tone '4-S en air of what is celled toe dignity of our -.striae:'', I ?Loa that a eircumstaece that the (000. have rather considered as done. ' I Fetch as it Ught be-that of tee., thee which was eo Leg refuel. e aid we, in the application of that trots establishel usage, or do anythico ..._ oily pressing upon toe ianomat and 'mods o lir e ci Greece ? I ray innooect sad unolfenon g, bec against the gover;,rti , at, and not ageing the ifro claim for redress tor the wrong was Old.rceu. and cheers.) Well, the courses pursued in so wrong Is done by a governm.nt towue's the another goveromeat-the courses that may be ; . various. One course is what is commonly ca.:. o that is, seizing Poaching of Taloa and h.leing t: :. until your demands are complied woo. length you teal in that, and Jo no: c. resort, to any other method, am lying what yca , es in compensation for the wrong. Auotro r ~.. modified operations of war-..such as a hi,ea. .c. sure frequently adopted by the governmurs .4 o. where they have demanded redress la :0;:..r., these are actual hostilities, such measures so h. , . quoted as having been adopted by the goval.:.: other countties, esoecially by the gomement e: . when they bad ,'.sounds to make ter :conies au.: Ar.d, by the bye, when people comoohn of oti rempthry manner is which the ~..11:4C4 woe and tree small time allotted :„ s c.: really wish to call the recollection .: oos which happened a'. Naples, in the ...hie • : eon, in the year 'Silk Now, there was a. Naples in May, Inia• The greet Erect et tilled with barricades. and the troops bsd to tore, ricsdes. To do that, they were obliged to ecoupy 1. right and left, in order to force their way. As th, terced one house alter another, they neglsceed t. guards kehind them to protect the rouses torced, were followed by the lazzazooi-the mob-and the were plundered. Some of the boasts in the 'Arne to French subject,, and they were tOunde reel. i French subje C:11 romploined to the in ace tuic.o* French admiral. there b:irg then • Preach s o us., the bay and part a little way off, sec .rehoo to too up the bay, lays his ships broadsi,e to o ; .p k o a rt ini o Napl es , lc na t Gvaai r 4 tt w i.e h i, b d o sot 4cutiz ed l m v i a o a, t .r est o and writes a note to say that he has 10,, countrymen for protection, and ;Of o. at half. past 1 on the 17th) unless he gets a satie:actory assurance-, - , ni '. that his count', men shall be etftce r.•., , ~" he says, for iu:ure discussion, chino a r I hut " sales, in use hour and a ba.f. ' h , v„......a .b.: -1.2 I '''''.....s shi p a satioactory assurer. e '.O i' • protected, I will land the crews of my :Os:. i tont redress. - t ß'newet ministerial eae, se ' I say Sr William Parker acted with the ;rem , : in caforciog our delisted,. Ile began with 4. did not, begin web • blo.kade. lie %viatica t: a, temtption with the commerce of other e. woo - hear.) But he made reprisals in a way not :too o for an obvious rea,on, they have not to', o env,: no way. The gov. lament was the offe tiding pat's Esuession of v. sods belonging to them. , Ile • Now that is not the usual practice, and Lr a ‘ ; reason. Ve mole belooging to government a , ' Armed vessels may feel it their duty to defeco the To 'toss armed :eructs would proliarly lead to and that is avoided by seines/ tnercoant !.see :. this instance, the disparity of force woe so g , "` took a few sexed vessels. lie gave them time to .• that demonstration. It was not atte..ded is. li.„ he did not mimed stay proceed to mirk r.prisils . u w• i vessels. 11,1 lii 1 an embargo. lie Kale Lone!. Ile ; i That on them, a limited number, and placed them under the Cu'' " Peoples avoidsrse to subject the cenimerceot the e t. • I /one ral to any al. g:re of restraint that w as not ue e ': Met they inielit not quit their and cheers.) We hey* been told of tishing•boe • • ; been seised, and poor people interrupt...l and ; r e s... ' th. it business Ido not believe thee,. eireuentaisees . • necessary for th w e isi es . ec l ut . ion hen o h t e h t i oo s k ins "" c ha tie u n t s. ve l .... .. hear.) 0 , the con:rary, I know that the etubai.: • e :teed to 6 eteirs,/ boats or vessels of see .•• • nage empkey d in the little c ousting tr ..o the couotrr. o.7he. re.) Well, in that sta:e 0 : 1.• the French government offered us the . s .. slices of neoliotion. We readily and cheerfully ee •,• that offer. We accepted it by a note, which au the t • • , the 12 h of rlbrudry, to which we dearly and the O•• . stated toe (solids and conditions on which , and to which three a ' el e films were to b: accep ed. I t..: collet be' no nest eke b, tweet' the English and the ...1, l' e'st ' Wu he k Al Oaf pr.. governments on that su.et. *.. .. CU case of the quesei is at Naples when alitudeur ei .. ~_ i Unister. la that case, oar eommuoication w• ,. ?'', reprisals wore to be suspended the mo m ~... 0 ' ..., , u French minister on the spot declared bowel( au. . t , 64 the LLLU.I. hat - wai C. ,c~x~n: I. , at C :I..:~.~ .. ..'.S • ~ Or Walt U . 1, e d . 1 1l y 4li kktr t, t :t:2 44 ; 4 1 44 jirr:—: IL' Gal 441. 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