The Express. — London, England, 1855-05-25 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 25, 1855. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. w. gat demeadsd HOUSE OF LORDS.—TuusszAT, MAT 24. TM LoF) Coostosit.oz took hie ..at ea the weeks* at at; o'sitek. Leal LYTTELTON proossad a potitioa from several dishwasher! isombas of ill• Uslversity of Cambridge, pmtsg ter ea alteration sir the pewee& sew sonatil. MR. PHINN'e APPOINTMENT. TM Roil of HARD WICKS wished to pat a quahog to kb obit hind opposite (Earl Gesaillb)r shish hs dig sot are whether his sold' Mesa smoi s spall ert sot. j He saw by th• newspa that a rselsos swami Man had ust hos appointed pers so astand Omplis lholllss as sostetary ha Admiralty. It wits hest • Mb book whisk hs bald he his he . " I).ers Parlimotary Coombs," thet Mr. Phan was member for Bath; that he task enhtiess boson is demist is 1837. sad that be was a liberal, i• how of bentsbeM to. With this ha bad so- Whet Mimi M in welt moths hst that the boe slams be ibiwes boom menirellelsal, sad thao t sines tiehoselMr.Barowit Lai has bid by hart. limo& ten t s natal salsa. It would lie • rase Insolanimno. be thoseat ie s t dia pubis moist If w silo awl/ sow ht anode sail bell Oho stairearks Medi be snolimilit on • govarvaraP. Under Otos eirsamiamo b• maM sit 'Author it was hat that Mr. Plias had bon WitigNerserytflthe Admiralty ? IiANVUeLE said bm* did mot quits admit hat his obis Mood's nos orbs erbelbar his totem weft towered or sot, was • wry good moon foe nab. b. (Laughter.) At the soot W ha lades lisitallos in I saying that Mr. Phis. had hues appris Is belays* thatthatlb. appointment of naval sea to all the sin was the easiottos. Mr. Barrow was tertanly not a said ma n i though he Clad the situation for thirty yam f sad Is thangbt a highly educated man and a lawyer wilt b• lost partkralarly useful at the Admiralty. The - Earl of ELLE BOROUGH eonfased that he saw the appoistment of Mr. N Phan with very great regret. His -lot ground of regret was the loss to the public of the ser vices of Captain (now Admiral) Hamilton ; and he mast say be eould not as why that officer should not hvs to talled the post after be had obtained the risk of roar admiral. Of Mr. Phian he knew nothing; but he objected to his appointment on the ground that he we. a civilian. If the appointment of a naval taker to the past of secretary were as empties, it ought, is his °plaits, to be tke rale, iaSSIII(4I as among his other important duties, the secretary had to revise the letters which were addressed is the same of the Admiralty to the naval officor•—• dory latish required tact, courtesy, sad a knowledge of the profession and of the feelings of the profession. He considered the selection of a gentleman who was not connected with the mat! a detriment to the • public service. Earl GRANVILLE costarred with the noble earl as to the vast of the services of Captain Hamilton, but deaied that a member of the legal profession would be unable to take ears that letters addroand to naval aeon were written ia a proper spirit sad with due courtesy. He might add Oasis* believed the office was offered to a naval gentleman before it was offered to the pulsing who had accepted it, sad whom ha thought likely to perform its duties efficiently. la reply to some remarks of Lord CoLeu Bari GRANVILLE said Mr. Phinm had already resigned his seat in parliament. It was sot the intention of the go mama to make any alteration in that aspect. Oat secretaryship would ortatimas to be parliamentary sal the other not. --- -- NEWSPAPER STAMP DUTIES BILL. The mow' rseuliag of the Newspaper Stamp Duties Bil arse stored by Viatewat CANNING. and agreed to after 9001 remarks how Lord Mosmaots is opposition to the mu OWL The house adjourned at halt past wan o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TIIvitsoeY, Met 24. The SPEALIII took the chair at four o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The following bills were read a third time and passed : Charlbury, Witeey, he . Road ; Colonial Life Assurance Ccespany; Cork and Yon/ghat Railway ; Electric Tele graph Company ; Blister and Ezmouth Railway ; Glasgow, Dssitortos, sod Helenburgis Railway; Gloucester Water sad Lord Board of Health ; Estate ; Limerick and Feyses Railway; Natiosal Loan Life Assurance Satiety; Newport Gas; Manchester, Stiefileld, and Lincolnshire . Railway (Lincoln Branch, itc.); Royal London Militia; Slixo Gee ; Warrington Water ; Lyme Regis Roads ; Biffc The following bills were read a third time:—Great Northern London Cemetery; Great Western and Brantford Railway; Staines. Wokingbam, and Woking Rail wa y (Alterations, Sol ; West Somerset Mineral Railway ; Weymouth Water; Wolverhampton New Water; Bills. THAMES EMBANKMENT AND RAILWAY BILL. Mr. W. PATTEN said that be mast oppose this bill, as he believed that the parties were not in a position to permed with it. Ilk W. MOLESWORTH said this bill bad not the eon. • ties tithe heard of Works. No scheme of this kind ehosidl he emehlishel until the Metropolitan Board of Works, teas selsbliehed soder the bill brought in by Sir B. HUI, same /IMO 111110401. For hie own part he objected to the plan =lllrby this bill, and should therefore move that it be si esend time that day sin months. Mt motion was carried without a division, PUBLIC BUSINESS. THE VIENNA CONFERENCES. Sir W. HEATHCOTE gave notice that be should move, ea an amendment to the motion of hie right hon. friend the member for Portsmouth (Sir F. Bering), to insert after the words termination of hostilities, "and still cherishing the desire that the commusiestione which are in progress may arrive at • eseemehtl hese." Mr. LOWE me notice that he should move as en amendment to the same motion, "That this house, having ems with regret that, owing to the refusal of Russia to restrict the strength of her navy in the Black Sea, the cos terraces of Vienna have not led to a termination of how tilitieo,feels it to be its duty to declare that it will tontine to give every support to her Myatt' in the prosecution of the war, until her Majesty shall, in °injunction with her silks, obtain for this country a safe and honourable peace." GREAT COATS FOR THE ARMY. I. sewer to Colonel Doses, Mr. MON SELL said that the patterns for great coats for the army were under conaiderstioo. KAFFIR AND BURMESE WAR MEDALS. In reply to Mr. BiIIIONDS, Mr. F. PEEL said that delay bad tam plisse is the preparation of three medals through the pressure at the Mist to finish offhand the Crime= medals. At the mane time all possible expedition would be w ired order to press forward the preparstise of the medals after by the hes. member. ADMISSION OF JEWS TO PARLIAMENT.' Mr. T. DUNCOMBE asked the First L ord of the Tommy if it was hie intention to bring in any bill &Iris( the peewee smile to amble Jews to ait is perliament ; also es whet day the lasi peoodeed bill for the reform of the eseenseisa of the City of Leadoa would be introduced ? Lied PAMIR/110N said it was not the intention of the goveremeat to propose during the present session any akomeere ire the Moieties of Jews into parliament. With respect to theelber portion of the question, be could amuse the Ma. miler dot the bill to which he alluded was in the seam ef brim drawn ; it was a matter of math dif deulty, stud melt require considerable care. He trusted. however, thus se so early day it would be before the hoses. RAILWAY ACCIDENTS. Mr. SCOTT asked the Vice-Prosidest of the Board of Trade, whether the bill to prevent railway accidents, wtieh the government said is March would be laid before paths most, and which in May was said to be reedy for presents ties, would be levelers's' tato parliament itersedietaly after the Whitsuntide roues ? Mr. BOUVBRIE said it was the intention of the Peal dust of the Board of Control to bring in this bill upon early day. THE MARINES. C.olosel WALCOTT asked the Pint Lord of the Admi ralty why, on the recent occasion of the distribution of the Crimean Isaias, the marines were net placed in the peel. Ws—with regard to other %nunhood the service—to which they were retitled by act of parliament. Mr C. WOOD could assure the bee. mad gallant member that it was not from any inadvertesie that the marines were not plated in the position between the 49th and ' regiments, to which place thee were undoubtedly entitle/. It had always been a matter of the greatest solicitude at rte Admiralty to eneourage . good feeling between the man= end the marines, and with that end In view, it had Mee t►ought an advisable cotters that those who beA dad bled together should also stand together whom the reward for their nteritovious melees. (Hear, bear.) war who sport the late occasion did not motive medals, were regaled with a dimmer at the Admiralty ; and this was the ream why they were drawn up upon that side of the perk. (lieu, tear.) CHURCH RATES. Sir W. CLAY, on the order for the committee on this bill being read, silted that it might be committed pro firm; bat is aomplience with the generally ezpreend wish of the bean withdrew hie request, and tbe order was postponed. FOREIGN POLICY.—THE CONFERENCES. 11r. DISRAELI rose to move the resoled= be MI placed on the paper, sod spoke as followe:--Sie. I dm kit the purpose of stating to the house Ore ressamr width Mee induced me to trouble it with the reeelstion width Isom is your bead, and the objects I have in view Is win that reeoluties. I bare for rose this hen wailing, as I "appose all have watched, with intent sad deep anxiety, the eesdaet of the arrraraiarla of this constry Is respell to the great question of reuse or war, sad especially and Is the meet significant suns the waded of that goverment dariag the prosecution of the sealer ewes at Vienna, and I have imbibed aa opinion with respect to tae intentloas of government whisk has Ailed lee with great regret sad dittoed as to the esa sequeuees of their eacittest. Mend we. of " Heller ll"L'n wee, ea the part of the gene& sad Ingsage se wamirtain, Si what mast be the came Of d resolved 1f ... ti lle = of this eillinst, lligel sew than sue MOO - -m rail kg gel* *Oil Isa WO pea alleied, god risk the * 4 b• uprise* I shell 1 *peessies of the opinion It= io - - - A also if possible—although With late eldieugh setertalaing tide epirdeo, -- 11190-11•11 tram liar Majesty's *sisters. (A lesett.) meets of the hens@ should be declared es these sinus- Hamm made then ohnervadese oo the mum, arm ekleem if *mem le beg all astotiaftoal won tall* Pleaa my preprieltioa, let me, before I enter into severer rwearsh, Bverybeey Me*, that if I bed attempted te do revert tethe ebeigestisosmade by the noble laden a theme, that her main whim I gave this notice. The noble lade** a e **me as** to me would be, may's gerarenuot were *gaged at the lIMMEt is Cl"±_i_hullsumfa,_____46l,______i"mil"Zw!! _• hi foolfiw e ibadi . Moor esgotiatimes Ni see fi deatial essearoaiestions with the re. It (cola ismatiss PillillnitiVie af Sir** sewer, sad that it would be to' toll* Mom that than was some concert between me and the me *fens to the ineareele of the areatry if parliament was to ben. member fee Aylesbury, because he relinquished to Widen with thsir Limon; and who win *sem tar • tft• lan for whisk be bad • Prior shim. Now , I het to sae emamme that sash ag Oregon would act um hem mid abo thet b l ss. had m n u o i cemar iosa. Itaire i tiou sa whatever on the subject with carrot y that, if I had tumidly met van by the boas ? (Haar.) But at loot the Pftanee la le him * tie - lobby, I should have refrained from couniuni• awe 1111 11 0 ftaftaaa wer•Prodar od i after soleo.tatlatt7 ; oak satin with him, as bon. memben have often given up their a tm tea mes a l a p el o f ti m e, they were Wel on the table **es in oases of this kind; but it so happened that I aid net meet him. I say this became Ido not want it to be et the hew, and I imagined that the Prints Idlstatee. thenght that there was anything extraordinary in my thillowiliff Ifts Powadatata that should have tra , dnd 'a' baring ounntunleation with the ben. member or say one Maillial e MOM if emu* have taken the *Who off• elm in the home; for, so long as lam • member of this relenity te have asked the *Woo of padiament es hen* I hope to maintain that frank communicatioa with gi a m ows o f t h e mpra „t a ti ve of I. co mosammt i say member of parliament which, whatever may haw been see* weld also have saes phi oppor t un ity el *mil my more, has always distinguished my °Deduct. So far a the hon. member for Aylesbury is coneerned ' I have 11 01 liolor• the Home of Comm ese wh what ane knows him from childhood, and always have had the riverenned bed Minded to do with respect to this greatest °madame is hie abilities and character. His aid plentigellinn elms. or war—of coarse, without commit- lilies have sines become European, and his fame hie jud ged my opinion ; and I have no doubt that whatever may Mee limit ist emberressing details--of manfully, proaiaely, be the unfortunate einettnetancee that have prejudiced many Ni mai* telling the parliament and the country what agaiam him is this house, which I deplore, and of which I illegmeinniest 'mud to do with reference to the same the time will coma when, with his talents masse In Baum. (Hear, hear.) I more this and diepolitione, he will have outhved those paja ma a di e m e d th e p r u de humm er to t a ke that die" although I will say frankly to him that I be eamai am I weal that to the last I hoped then lieve they have a fair foundation. (Load laughter.) Neither the hoe. number nor the house will misundeMaad Prise Minister would have again thought over his first my observations. I should not have made them bat that I eoneluelea, and have felt that he should be performing have baud he is a b ou t to vo t e against my ma m a . his duty more faithfully to his sovereign and the country by I hope, however, that no gentleman will vote against my doing so. I had hoped that the Prime Minister must have motion until he hat heard the debate which is about to (Loud laughter.) I think that the subject V a buoys that the public. mind was is that state which made " 8 "' little too grave end important for the leaders of pang: it sessesory for the government to lad enlighten public eitheret& to mo m mem with accuracy. We ore a 'plaits cm subject. of *rustling magnitude, and that the to-sight to dimes no women subject. (Hear, hear.) We so w l or d would b a mboos the first to ask, je the eenstlin• are going to scrutinise and examine the Goaded of high decal and eustomary seamier, the opinion of parliament on Pwww a r e t who we ewlmwsted with most solemn duties, Ni perform on whose ance of thins dude. depends the gradual the "li r " and ( " ratter of those aegadatiftwo and Ws of this country, and the happiness and prosperity of polity whisk he would pledge us to pursue. (Hear, hear.) people. (Cheers.) He would not be a bold, be Well, sir, I wet disappointed, end I think I may venture be a shameless man, who could say before this die team to say that eese t e y was gt eap p e j e t e g also. (Load mho chose. that his vote was registered for any man sr to way party. (Opposition cheers.) I shall now rani of " limr, hue.") I think I may venters to say that it to the *cells doe of the house circumstances which will reo would have been satisfactory in the present perplexed and quire no great unties of the memory. lam not going to miles disposition of the natioo, if, at the conclusion of the ask them to go bask to the passes* of the Prutb or the doe *egotist** whisk had been earned ca—on our part with elevation of war. My mitisisme teedght on public trams& done will refer to reser firms , eithengla I admit that with unusual pomp and ostentation, sad bad, therefore, raised • remarkable armrest distant ti the drat minister had come out kn . o be wledg s of the SIMISISISINISINI that preceded thus, It a impassible to hem a senor or edema Judgment forward and taken the epportwilty of fairly putting the B a t, although my mom hen weal. I d n a aaamana at views of the administration before parliament, and MI the installs oldie Aid easkeer opposith in olise-611 added week as *peados of opinion as would have sustained IllablaS gook he Ike eseedep. (A laugh.) One NOM the courage end t h e sp i r i t o f t h e people. (Cheers.) bat reuniter the triumphs* ohm of the nation, Ni the crown of oullemeatary laurel which encircled that reverend But nothing of the kind was dens; bat still I frankly con- brow. Them was the minister at last who could fees, I hesitated et to whether I should take the step I rustlings the honour of tb• country ; there was, wished to take and shrunk from what I felt was at lot, the minister who would carry on war my duty. from—l a d m i t a cowardly her. a Gar like Chatham, and maintain his principles in this house like Pitt; there was the man who, betted by en enthusiast* whisk I admit was too influential, that if a man people, was to redeem the falling state. (Oppuetiem in the exercise of his duty in this house took • step s u m o) I remember on that occasion. when ttDDaa dart which might lead to • censure of the government, he would fervour had a little Wedded—when men began to ISSN SS be open to the accusation of an unworthy mod*. Under this it were to feel, and to commence to think—that a matey of this house rose is his plate, and asked a eigniflosat in influence, I declined—l am ashamed to my , mo re than ones terrogatory. I as sure the house could not for a mosent declined—to do that, which, holding the position Ido b y anticipate who would be the first—whose would be the the indulgence of my friend', I felt would have been my duty. (Hear, hear.) But • right hon. gentleman, the segedous mind that would anticipate the feat dissipating member for a great city end • member of the Privy Council inithueinne — who would be the first man in this house who of the gesso, thought that this was an rummies which would begin to occupy that future position in whisk he could not be pawed usnotiosd, and place lon the table a was to save the eouutry, or disturb the minister. The right honourable member for Carlisle rose to ask a motion for en athirst' to her Majesty on the subject. The right hoe. member for Manchester, *stud of the First questioo. (Loud laughter.) The right hon. gentleman in a moment of thoughtlesseest—(laughter) — had forgetwo Minister of the Crows, proposed an address to her MaMajesty on the greet qualm of pout or war. I hope that ii the to leave the cabinet when Lord Aberdeen retired, but It 'obit lord could have mewed up hie courage to propose an was one of those moments of amiable weakness to which all are subject, and which persons in opposition will most address to his royal mistress, it would not hav e been readily pardoe. Bat the right hon. gentleman, when he eoneeived in the spirit of that of the right hon. member for Matches's? ; and the greet object I have to night i t took his place in the gangway, when be surveyed the scene through his sagacious eye, after those thirty seven to obtain, if possible, from the first minister a declaration to that effect. (Loud chum) Bat the right hon. mem. years of variable fortune, which he appealed to the other bet, actieg in a perfectly parliamentary manner, and quits evening, naturally remembered that a few years back —but e very few years back—wilted by his eminent inatieteatly with his high character and eminent talents, lieu gave that notice, and I must lay that I heard of his doing tenants whom, now sitting near him, he had impeached aa with perfect satisfaction, became I felt t h at the question the First Minister of the Crown on account of his conduct of would fairly be brought before the house, and that we our foreign drain (Hear, hear.) The noble lord was then, if not a traitor, at least a arebraiid, and we can all should have the opportunity of enzering at length into t h e perfectly real the memorable parliamentary contest which discussion of • subject which I believe to be et the utmost aided in the triumph of the noble lord—(loud chmrs)—a importance to the honour and interests of the °many. triumph, lam bound to say, sot attained so much by the (Hear, hear.) And, although I would not have suppor t e d number of his friends as hie own distinguished prowess. right the hon. member for Manchester in his mottos , I shoal have been grateful to that gentleman for giving to Well, sir, the right hon. gentleman rose, and remembering sh me and my friends an opportunity of impressing my views all this, remembering that foreign policy was the weak point of the noble lord, remembering, too, that be had failed in on the subject, and of taking a course which woald have dished an opinion the expression of which is, I believe, ahr turning the noble lord out of the cabinet (which was a duty f or reserved for the noble lord opposite, his colleague—e. hear," whitely necessary for this country I and a laug )—hwho, in an adjourned debate, effected the a moment supposed that the discussion would object which the right hon. gentleman did not succeed in apt take unless. Is than a matinee on this accomplishing), the right hoe. gentleman, remembering side of the house who for a moment supposed rose in his plies. and in a aot very full or very that it would not ? (Load oppaeitiou cheers.) Not tes the Post, slightest hesitation was made on the part of the iloaltrantent attentive house, he having just left that seat in the Cabins+ which is now so worthily filled by his right hon. successor when the notice was given. True it le that the right hon. (Sir C. Wood), and which wee still warm with the ample member for Manchester had not the power of commanding a day in order to bring his gentian before the house, but in of the right hon. havonet—(a laugh)—addrested au who could doubt, considering the magnitude and im- enquiry to the noble lord, wheth,r in the new government, porta*, of the subject, the feeling of the people of which he hod himself been so recently a member, ef the oonstry, and the mime of propriety which j there was to be any change in the principle of their foreign polity—whether the policy reoommended and suppose still influences • British minister in the House of adopted by Lord Aberdeen's cabinet was to be followed out, Commons, but that privilege would be wait*, and that no end, above all things, whether there was to be any change in obstacle would have intervened to prevent the discussion the terms and conditions which the new plenipotentiary waa to being fully and fairly carried on ? And so it turned out. The noble lord, with an impulse that was not wholly sae s, hon . upon in negotiating for pure at Vienna? The right hon. gentlemao, it is clear, had some suspicion upon the pected, took an opportunity of facilitating that diamagnet, by giving ay a day for that purpose, err ing at last we b a d " subject, but that suspicion was in • moment dispelled when the noble lord rose and said that he identified himself and admix to the crown placed on the paper by a privy coon• tiller, which would have brought forward the whole gum. his govereatent entirely with the policy of Lord Aberdeen— tits a the war. A day was appointed, t h e par. that no difference whatever would be for a moment thought Nam* assembled in an unusually lull house, and the of is the condition upon which Peace would be sought in the approaching conference. at Vienna; and the right hon. while attention of the *lion was flied on the Howe of Clemmene, because it was believed that after the dreary in. gentleman, te mark bow completely satisfactory he con sidered the noble lord's assurance, declared that he received went of enspeees the hoots was at last going to give tome of a return to political and whammies, life. the noble lord's statement with the most perfect aatiefarii doe, and that, natter the eirtonnetaants, he should eon- Freer.) Bat tooar great surprise, and the surprise, Win of any one not in the secret—ted the secret was teitottioad7 shoals from all factious oPPositiost. (" Hear, well kept—(cheers Ni laugbter)—the ezpectatiou of pm. beer," and a laugh.) Well, I remember that; but strange to say, the plenipotentiary, after a certain time, returns liemsal, saidp:samsey of Europe, were complettly baulked, ..._, .....„, me po r t is chews put ti ng t i t , met frastratod—(bean)—the plenipotentiary who represented --... 7 ,-.........ri 0 -i this „ u m; duo the puce of the policy of Lord Aberdeen returns bootless from the e0n ,,0 ley ... A y,. a v„onit. which, d roo p t o to y so t = 4 foresees of Vienna, sad the protocols in doe time are kid ei ne 7r m 'a t T e - a7;g oos h ot o m ot h e t h e potelom et t h e upon the table. But, se I have said, the noble lord does r a g sisaa j o i . iii-,-,7,- heao I coed not mom what not fulfil his duty as the Minister of the Crown in moving eitioned **le hires on Monday night, whin the right an address to the sovereign, but allows another member of this house to set him the example, and a motion is placed hag. 's resolution was to have none on fee upon the table which means, if it muss anything. diespro- The seem was too vivid and dramatic to be bation if the madam of our plenipotentiary at Vienna — ...11y begatese. A right honourable gentles*, meetly the , _.„....... and I mipp „„ t ill t h e m on d m - the im am that the sonaidons of peace insisted upon were unreason. ,__, a a 77 l , — kesa ar aka government, enddeoly m em, whet h er able, and that the conditions offered ought to be accepted. seaTailag merely by *mom nouns, el by more social ia , (Hear, hear.) It would be an insult to the right bon. A." hen. gentleman, the member for Manchester, to supple that he lasnesee se some suppsee--(a lengli)—and that attaatamaa. twa i n aa some porn which had long been must anything else. (Hear.) What then do we find ? We find that the right hon. baronot himself (Sir J. Ora- Tifig as the table of the house, sad which we all had re ad, tune over a well-thumbed postage, and mks the ant gni- haat) , mid his two eighth*. friends (Messrs. Ililsdetone and skew whither it is a his t u t them w w rit ems possibility B. Herbert) were to be the principal supporters of the right • alsawad amatia d mia as the great e au n ri ci i mie or boa. member for Manehester ' s motion. They rose, it is Wre. To do tie sable lord jetties, I meet say that ha true, at the last moment, to throw their shield over the Mewed the most ussompeemising SIMMS is *at otessioe, coming conflict l but, *alum I eat mach misinformed , per he did not whim a b ir o s b e b ew . mom" he d im in vindication of the motion of the right bon. member for Manchester, in support of the declarations therein declared, was the slightest rowed ire bilking ma of the Wad mew_ ear. ) ground w o w ‘as ii d o appat i aa f ar that galaxy of eloquence sod intellect which had seceded rl ea L a j att i hat d imaa p a i n g the asu o m m aaa as t h at ormo . from the cabinet of the noble lord was to ozonise its bigb.st ires. l li thetes h the sow load did as s e a , t h e a g u e ., faculties and its choicest and fluent rhetoric in the attempt rens& for limbering that • diem** would interfere to ladaia" the opinion of parliament . (Hear, hear.) with me mptiationa whatever, soother noble lord, *flu. What, thee, an we to suppose ? That then was some mesildes persibb by those social feelings to which I before change 10 the conditions upon which peace was to be soli eillniefl—fle )—with a rteseeei sod simplicity which cited ; that the* wet some uncertainty of condom (for it is saansa las ia SNss'a ti, admired, gave the hew, th„ery as. wet to be supposed that the cable lord was not faithful te that he bad eagaged to second the sae . the pledge he had given to the right hon. baninet), mid eissan legemsatioa tits el Ohs sighs his. number for Manchester, but that that the noble plenipotentiary who, according to the noble lord, has so ably carried his instructimie into effect, has bun really ego the question of the right hon. member for the guilty of some act which justifies the right hon. baronet Unifewity of Ozhed, although it remained wienewered by and his right bon. !Minas in giving their support to a mo• the prime memitter, it would he totally impossible for him to fulfil hie resew omoghter. ) Well, in a „ ep e b ert t i me ties that directly challenged the propriety of that noble lord's tooth*, and declare is this house that the ve lem°, upon which the government insisted it was found oat that there was to be no debate on the great question of peace or war before the Whitsuntide holidays ditims of which were then impending, and. I still influenoed by the ought not to have been urged. It wan on the convictions which I have on the subject, believing that the 24th of February, 1855, that the inquiry te which I have conduct of her Majesty's ministers in respect to this qua. alluded was made by the right bee. hareset, of the noble lord, end this leads me for a moment to go hack green the tion is open to suspicion and distrust, aid that if not vigilantly watched and carefully controlled, it return of the eleuirroten:Ato the meth* Period when that may lead to coututteneet most perilous to the noble individual was • tad to the ofnoe—he on that hamar and interests at this country, I felt it i t: duty to *POOIOIIIOII and Ira the madam of the noble lord while ' give that nobles, which now, Sir, I shall have the honour of at Viennese** bro—book semend which gives cause placing in your hands. (Hear, hear.) These are the ill my ',lois?, _fler enspisise, the distrust, sad the dins simple reasons for giving that notice. It is • notice limited thhadoo wails loholiboodlY prevail La the seantry—and to the issue attem4 to be *Wm* in the resolution, and um* was id old* right to iodate the beim to take be if it one level a question of madames or censers on a step sash as las ihs lost molosnt Woos we adjourn for the the goverentent, let tenet be said that it has been hastily holidays aus atiaMidot It Woos *es to adept. (Rear.) given, or that histriarable nimbus have not had sufficient Mr. Disraeli them reseals& tour that Loot John Russ*, pollee. Thu melba has, ma my part, arisen from the air- before he wens le Meares, bad esamaftted himself to • vio lent and moles& metes ; led *meet a cabinet sweeedly manstaireee et the hour ; the government offices have had the same Miss es my Maeda, because I should be Gahm* 011 the ground that its polity was the weak ; and dneimg the if I bad attempted told* her Majesty's minium by sue. Proems of tie Caadandalaa had *ha** • watt el skill prise. Not having sonlidenee in the government on any and *drilla"! ___Whillt_. choill Mfr _the ofoofolf ass be he t subject, the neusees of the Whitsuntide holidays would state of "dm, alai lima wagtail awll*lwitad upon aloes have impelled me le give a notice of a conterebenaim the 'Vienne ereseeeis atom* kirk Mr. Diarsedessalubd tharectse, and of this oodles, which has arisen from the sir- that Lord / 811 ,_,_ 114 . 11 . 11 _. had lawataaadied hie labailla , with master ors of the bent, I shell now briefly attempt mut* set wag but la :Wen" hams in esurisbeg a to sepia* the purport. I think that the sew treaty of pin" of romisehm it alined ;p i pe t s - i. duct of the gemenetant, with respect to the Me to obtain pram by memo of a batty here quad*. of poem er mi. bee hem mstelnia,, while their after. He (Mr. Ifterlisit) dine asaliassaw—We new i ngue gg has bees embiseses I sail I think that that ten- arrive at the night o f the proposed Moths el tie right hen. oertsiety sad daubs hen lime seresiewed by a posulisr ram gentlemen (Mr. M. °lbws) as which la is teat SAPOSSISST 10 hie** Acne-lenses, which I shad eriesmar to pew teeth, as Ilime before adverted te it. end I refer to it ou t t o the hum weight ; end, if the been be of up egg. ow ealy foe the purpose of este* the strange position eke, I here it *lies* ma 15 arreethig a emu of policy whisk was time taken up hy the First Minister. w ht e h. if It condone, taut fall most iejuricmaly on this no sobis bad laidlla *ea that he wee hat going :to make reentry. (Bur, hem) But I ask them to do amebae, ea lementialevn rem, eel that the man who would ma ke ale. Ima them, when uncertainty of conduct so prevails, MI igOOMMIMOU PM* weed" its a degraded outcome. I ad. when ambiguities of phrase are so rife, that it shall, in a mired the Isms ad the Delia lied—" The captain la a mom manger which may sot be mistaken, &elan to the country gm." Bet we mem eggassbiss min this the „ m u m of that with Tepid hi this warthelr opinions ha* set thug*, the noble le* bet he la lasa air *sake m isiggewass nor it their spirit daunted. (Loud awe.) I trust that, 14W. The govseemset sett mike pow without the while they disapprove of the language sad conduct of Itenwledgt of this her% sat Wont they do so they should let es know what is *air mffiey, and give us theft thought there was a lingering chapels of MAIM; clear and 'explicit *nee ea towhat le the state of affairs. lag now, by negotiates., an honourable peace, A I remeisher • mem& men is ens of the works of Gibbon, etlll night bays the w eakness t o n o o n to t h ou ,. not I aw, is which he said, geode, the nehmen of tie Arabian etninesd that neutiaticies, Instead of obtaining piece, will writer, "Abbess/eats is a whew to the feet ; but who is Only aggravate the demurs sad the distress of war. (Hear, to be whams hr Aldose:nate." The noble lord says hese.) -I am am:laden that if thou negotiations unties., he will sot make an *seminou pow, and the noble lord you may he p tad from a disgraceful pew by the still is a whew for kin; what will be witness for the high spirit of England, but you will have substituted for it, noble lord ? What is the gab/sea for parliament and the if they pursue this policy, 'lingering, a fruitless, and an in- Gauntry Guise an improper semw of the prerogative of glorious war. I ask the house, therefore, to support me to the Mini by the guacamole, unless there ie a fall and hes eight in the motets I am making, because one of its main dhesellu an the state of affairs, so that parliament obis Ms is to put an end to the fatal union which now may lieseen sequined with Oho polio@ of the ministry ? prevails between diplomacy and war. Sir, it hes been said The Whit lord said that he weld not be formed 1: 1 0 0 : that the motion which I am about to make espressos a fah. sequisted with the ermadential comma distrait of her Majesty's government. B. it se. Is there of ass alias. I never whet the noble lord—it wield have soy man, out of this house, who does not feel distrust of her hem the very height of impredwe for any man to ask the Majesty's government ? (Cheers.) Nay, I beg the noble &Ale lerd—os what terse he inteeds to make puss. The lord to understand that Ido not say it by way of taunt. I sable lord mast let upon his responsibility; he mast act of know fall well, and it is a most solemn thing, that the souse is eaninaction with the ally wham alliau.e we distrait is not limited to her Majesty's government, but eherish; hat that is no reason why the noble lord should that the distrust which has been occasioned by the policy of take • Conroe which, in my opines, must lead this country for the lot two years roaches our generals, either to •an ignominious peace, or to a lingering although they are victorious; it reaches our o ffi cers, sad fruitless war. That is why I prows the noble although in this very war they have achieved acts lard. I say that we have a right, without interfering of naperallelied valour, ma maintained among their with the prerogatives of the crown, without inectuasaibing troops unexampled discipline ; that distrust reaches in any way the liberty of the government to act with our our unistowey, although they have poured out ally—we have a right to interfere, if we think the noble their blood like water ; and we cannot avoid • dark suspicion lord and his colleagues are pursuing a coarse which, in my lest that distrust should have reached even the practical °plaice, will prevent pesos, or which, if it dose lead to a working of our representative institutions. (Hear, heir.) Mad lead to ea unsatisfactory one, but which, I Will you hesitate to support me to-night in this at lout the Cr:, will lead more probably to a lingering, and first effort to breathe some feeling and fire into the house, fruitless, and an inglorious war. (Hear, hear.) Now under the dangerous circumstances in which, believe me, the noble lord said, in reply to me, "Objections the House of Commons itself is placed ? Remember that are made to the negotiations which we are carry- forbearance on our part cannot command it on the part of ing on, but the right hon. gentleman and others our constituents. I speak frankly ; I say that our 'dew e seem to forget that all this time we are carrying on war, and is by them considered aa an abnegation of our functions. effectively carrying on war." The noble lord heisted epos You must say aye or no to this appeal, to the motion lam that position, apparently very much to his own satisfaction. going to make. I cannot believe that you will allow any Well now, si r, here I entirely join issue with the noble miserable ameodmoat to evade the issue which lam going lord. I deny that you can carry on war effectively with to place before the House of Commons. That issue is this this morbid state of negotiation. I think the whole fallacy —will you put an end to this diplomatic subterfuge, this of the policy of the noble lord—l think the cause of all the ministerial trifling ? It will be understood, I hope, here unsatisfactory consequences of hil policy—l think the cause and elsewhere ; and yet lam told that lamto be met with of the discontent of the country—l think the an amendment, moved by a right hon. gentleman who has diseatisfactiott which is prevalent, all may be traced done me the honour of adopting five lines of my °mufti to this principle of the noble lord's govern- tilos. (A laugh.) The right hon. gentleman is one whom sent and of the government that preceded him, and we all respect—a man emeritus in the great struggle of of which he was a member, the principle that you are at public life. The present ministry is fortunate in always the mate time to make war and to negotiate for peace. haring several honorary privy oouncillors who can (Chun.) Sir, I apprehend that the noble lord has a enticed be called in to the rescue ; and it ought to be and false idea of the manner of making war. I deny that to a very wise government to have so many amateur make war all you have got to do is to levy taxes and to fit colleagues. I read that the Bight Hon. Sir Francis Baring out ezpoditions. There is something else equally, and per- is going to move such an amendment. Is that the amend ham I might say—though it may seem an extravagant sent of the ministry ? (Cheers.) If it is the amend. ezpreesion—more neseeeary. Not only mast you levy eon- mint of the ministry it is an act on the part of the ministry tributes. and recruit troops, if you want to carry on war which vindicates, to a certain degree, the course that I have effectively, but you must keep up the spirit of the people. taken, and is every sense condemns themselves. (Cheers.) (Great cheering.) Now, sir, I deny that you can keep up If the noble lord and his colleagues think that this the spirit of the nation, in a struggle such an that we carried house ought, in the present state of affairs, in consequence on against Napoleon, and such as we may have to carry on of the failure of these negotiations, to express • determine against the Emperor of Russia. if you are perpetually in- tion to support her Majesty in the manner which I have pressing on the country that peace is impending, and if you described, how can the noble lord reconcile it to himself are showing to the people that the point of which there is that he did not himself, like a loyal minister of the controversy is, after an, of, comparatively speaking, petty crown, come forward and propose an answer to her importance. Men will endure great sacrifices if they think Majesty upon the papers which she has so graciously they are encountering an enemy of colossal energies and placed upon the table ? Sir, I remember—l can hardly resources ; men will endure great sacrifices—a nation recall the passage, but I remember reading of a scene is the will not count its sacrifices, if it believe that it history of our country which the noble lord would do well is engaged in a struggle for its fame, for its ex- to study befoie be again treats with so much disrespect the entice, for its power. But when you come to double communications of his royal mistress. I find, in Coxes or triple income taxes, when you come to draw men from " Life of Sir Robert Walpole," that the Duke of Newcastle their homes for military service, when you have darkened —who was then Secretary of State—brought some papers the hearths of England with the shadow of calamity, when of importance to the House of Lords by command of his you do all this, men must not be told that it is for a quo- Majesty, with respect to the threatened invasion of England tion of whether the Emperor of Russia shall have four by the Pretender; and in consequence of papers on the frigates or six. (Cheers.) I say, then, the principle same subject having been, some time previously, laid on the of the government, the fatal principle which has tat le, and the Crown having then been addressed on the been pursued by the noble lord and the late cabinet, of subject, the Duke of Newcastle said it was not necessary keeping up not only a state of war, but • state of nego- in the present instance to address his Majesty. 1 can tistioa simultaneously in action with it, is the recall the spirit, if not the words, of Sir Robert Walpole— real cause of our disappointment, and partly of the only speech, I believe, he made in the House of Lords OUT disasters. What effect has it had upon your as the Earl of Orford—when he said, "My lords, is our militia? I remember, wh n the militia way first embodied language so barren that we cannot find words for the war, even in the humblest cottage there was that to express to his Majesty the feelings we enter military spirit which, I think, is natural to England. tain upon this act of his coadeseensioa to this What is the feeling now ? They understand the question ; assembly ?" and he pursued that strain of indignant they have heard of the conferences at Vienna ; they feeling in such plowing terms, until the house were so believe that, after all, it is no very great difference ; ashamed of that minister that they rote, although the that it is not a difference for mai* their blood should Duke of Newcastle's party was greatly in a majority, sad be lavished for a country which no longer as appeal to desired to address the crown ; and the Princ their convictions of the cause. Is there a warmth of Wales, who wan in opposition to Lord Orford, against the increased taxation of this country ? Do and had not been on speaking terms with him, you think that murmur would have been heard, if, at crossed the house, and said to him, " Let us be friends, for the very time when you are calling for these increased I feel that you have vindicated the honour of the crown, sacrifices, you ware not impressing on the public mind that and represented the spirit of the country." (Cheers.) Well, you are, in fact, not strum** for an object worthy of the here is this amendment. Is it the amendment of the go aierifiess you impose ? Bet, sir, to carry on war effectively, vernment ? Will they have the courage to support this it is necessary not merely to keep up the spirit of the amendment ? If they have, it is possible they may yet take country, but to keep up the spirit of foreign powers. Best Sebastopol—(laughter)—for a more audacious act never was assured that so long as you appeal to a foreign power as a nerpetrated in parliament. It is not—it cannot be—the mediator, that foreign power will be your ally. (Hear, amendment of the government; it is an amateur perform - bear ) Sir, Ido not say it with any want of respect to ascii and I will leave it with these observations only,which I Austria. I think thet the court of Vienna hu acted make not only with regard to this but the many other amend throughout these transactions with wisdom, with sagacity, menu I have heard of ; and in order to impress upon the and with prudence. I am not surprised that its counsels house whatis the difference between my amendment and these have been guided with that ability, when I remember that shabby amendments that are cribbed from my thoughts, and I the minister of that country is a pupil of the greatest states- clothed in my stolen language. What is the difference man whom this age has ever produced. The genius of between them? The difference is this, that in both there is hietternich still guides the country which he has more than that assurance which I am sure all sides of the house will once saved ; and if the leading of that great minister be feel it is their duty to proffer to the crown, of their deter ' permed, lam persuaded that, in a struggle with Russia, be urination to support her Majesty in the ear ; but there is not the man, nor are those who sit at his feet the men, an omission of those words which, if they be carried, will who would ever counsel a bus humiliation before that rieg throughout England to-morrow, and gladden the heart pone. Why, sir, in 1828, if the opinions of Prince of many a patriot who now is discontented, when he finds Metternich had prevailed—if the policy which he that the House of Commons has oome to the issue resommended had been adopted by the English which I have now described, and have decided, government—l should not at this moment be weary- by their vote to-night, that there shall be an end of lag the house, in all probability, upon the all- diplomatic subterfuge and ministerial trifling. (Cheers.) important question of the war in the Best. There- Mr. BARROW seconded the motion, saying that he was fore, it is with no disrespect to Austria that I make this ob- quite alive to the miseries of war, and was anxious for a tion ; but I tell you, it is in human nature that the termination of it, but would impress on the house the moment you ask a person to occupy the position of a me- necessity of a vigorous prosecution of the war, as the only dieter, he will not, necessarily not, fulfil the duties of an mesas of obtaining a secure and honourable peace. ally. (Hear, hear.) I say then, sir, that so far as the The motion hiving been read by the 8 general policy of the noble lord is concerned, I trace its want of energy and its unfortunate consequences, I true Sir F. BARING said, that the resolution of the right the discontent that is prevalent, and the dissatisfaction hon. gentlemen (Mr. Disraeli) shut the door to peace—it which we find in many quarter., 1 trace them to this con- interfered with the prerogative of the crown—it interfered tinged alliance betweea diplomacy and wee. As a general with the frank, and fair, and confidential com principle I think it objectionable; but in the present ease I munications which bad gone on so well with oar will show the house—if they permit me, and I will allies. It would take into the hands of the house do it with all the brevity I can—that there are peculiar ob. a subject that ought to be Monied with France 11311fi• jeatiolla to this double service, which, if not acknowledged, dentiallyand freely—it deelaredthat the House of Commons, winked, as I believe in my conscience, to great public die- in spite of France and Austria, that the country was deter ester. New, sir, I may ise permitted to say—and I beg, mined not to go on with the negotiations, and having done with gnat humility, to ask the attention of the house to it that the right hon. gentleman would be satisfied with upset -that there are two methods in which you may carry on ring the government, whieb probably was not the war with Russia. Inoue we you may invade her previous, least reason why the motion had been brought forward. despoil her of her territory, beat her back into the North, The right hoe. baronet concluded by proposing the following reconstruct, in short, the map of Europe, and solve the amendment:—" Tbat this house, haying seen with regret knot, which now you are trying to undo, by move- that the conferences of Vienna have not led to a termini'. ments of the most determined character. And, sir, tion of hostilities, feels it to be a duty to declare that it will if there were a young minister, full of geniis, entities to give every support to her Majesty in the prose tangy, and fortunate enough to possess, as a Colleague, • Wien of the war until her Majesty shall, in conjunction general u consummately gifted, booked by an enthusiastic with her allies, obtain for this Country a safe and honourable people, unembarrassed by public debt, I sin not prepared Peace." to say that that career would not be well worthy of his The amendment having been seconded, attention. Sir, I will not presume to predict what might Sir W. HEATHCOTB said that, as he had given notice be the consequenon of that straggle, but I think I may of en amendment on the motion of the right hon. baronet, venue to prophesy that the grey hairs would cluster on the it might not be inconvenient, though he could not move temples of not the oldest members among us before its ter. it at that time, Übe went a little into the consideration of miseries. Well, there is another mode of carrying on the the subject. He found two resolutions on the votes. The OM with Russia. It is one essentially protective. It is to right hoe. gentleman the member for Buckinghamshire had, your ally, to take care that her territory is not vio- portly by his etiolation and positively by hie speech, made it =hat her fortresses are secure, test the preponderance impossible for him to vote for the motion he hod laid before of Rusia in any quarter is checked, not by reducing the the house. He (Sir W. Heathoote), so far from shutting water inhumes of Ruda, but by increasing the power of the door to peace, was most anxious that the broken pieces Turkey. That was the policy which, as I understood from should be gathered up again, and that the negotiations should the declaration of war, we had embarked upon. But what be brought to a successful issue. Then he had to consider have you don ? You suddenly resolve, having embarked whether the resolution of the right boa. baronet who had be a war to protect the Turkish empire —you suddenly re- just sat down expressed his mind. From his speech he solve to invade the Remise douriaions, white you were pro- gathered that he wished to embody in his neolution what sewing the Turkish empire, and engaged in diplomatic he (Sir W. Heathatte) intended to coney ; and he hoped, trumetions which were to carry out the protective policy. therefore, that no objection would he made to the introduc- Tee have sonsiesied, therefore, aggressive war with prow- tion of the words he intended to prows. In the form in UN diplomacy; and to that incoherent and incompetent which the right hoe. baronet's resolution stood on the votes Woe I trace end attribute the dangers that are sore it WY both ambiguous and uncertain ; and to get rid of rounding as, and whieb, in my opinion, unless that he would propose that, after the word " hostilities," you terminate that ulna, meet increase, end these words should be added—" And still cherishing a de fatally increase. The conference at Vienna can sou with sire that the communications ie progress may lead to a such question• as the government of the Danubian Princi. wamenhil ile1111." polities, or as the course of rivers, or as the rights of Chris- Mr. Y. Bexima supported the original resolution ; Mr. tea subj.'s' of the Porte • but confennes at Views cannot Wu.nriesox opposed it. The Marquis ef GRANDY defended cope with such circum stances es the invasicia of Russian the conduct of Russia. Mr. B. PHILLIMOIII intended to provinces, the destructies of Russian fortresses,the fortunes vote for Sir W. Heathoete's motion. of accumulated hots is the hostile country of a proud foe. Mr. GLADSTONE defended what was called the ambi 'b (Dhow) While, therefore, you are wanting your time at guous conduct and language of the government, as imposed Vienna in this protective diplomacy, all the you can do is y the necessity of the cue. It he charged the government to 4.e u se scheme which will aptly to the objects of pro- with indecision. it was because they omitted to take &dun teatime war, but the evil coasequences for the objectsof tags of the admirable opportunities afforded them in the agueseive war ate easily trainable, become you not only course of the negotiations. For these reasons he objected be these conferences, by this morbid diplomacy, damp and equally to the motion of Mr. Disraeli and the amendment tf de w°, the spirit ef the nation, which, after all, you must Sir F. Baring, and supported cordially the proposition of Sir awe rely upon, but yon are, by them very conferences, W. Beatheote—that the war was originally just, but that we =rg the allies, tweventing that energy and that had gaiaed the objects we had sought, and it henceforth be oe,os on the pert of European powers, west* would came unjust. There wee no case in modern history in be necessary Ise you to earry on year aggressive warfare which the political objects of a war had been so completely and to extricate yourselves from the dangers to which you gained without the entire military prostration of the now must feel exposed. Sir, ie may hays been • great error. enemy. They had gained immense advantages, the ir as I frankly unto. I myself believe it to have been, to have victories had been most brilliant, sad there had been no departed hom that protection of the Turkish empire disaster. What more did they require ? Sappoas the to the invasion of Russia, which you, as I think, Russians attempted another Inkennann , a appose another ten most raslit/, and. I believe thoughtlessly, determined chewed were laid with thaw who had fallen before ; would on . But wise one takes that step, you most that nta k • poem more easy or gain them better terms? meet the aonseneenes of the fatal policy which you have H o b e li eve d mac e an occurrent* would have rendered pew pursued. You, cannot extricate younelves from those eon- more difficult. There was no country in which the govern sinews by conferences at Vieana. (Cheers.) You will meat depended more on the feelings of the people than Moreau your difficulties and dangers if you trust to diplo- in Russia. Did they think they could drive them m • to a nom,. You p:sition is one entirely deceptive, and you peace ley the slaughter of ten or thirty thousand me n, or never can tarry on aggressive war wit saucer Unites you a e o n by the taking of Sebastopol? Their enthuse= are supported by an enthusiastic people, and unless you can was on t o n a n o t o a grater height by the avant epos allies who knew that you are determiaed to he flames of Mapco . Although • million of men under victorious. (Cheers.) Now, sir, I say that this is Cue the greatest general of the age occupied their territo ry obtut of my motion, not the solitary object, but the main wield they Si. driven into terms by a alight in TIMIS*, a object. One of its objects is, that I want the Huse of distant p foetus ? The present eircumetanoes seemed priori- Cowing. to decide to-night—l want those who ate moat g ee ti a ny mes fa/able to the attainmeat of peace. If a foroneble to peace. provided I am sure it is an disaster- occurred to this country, which God fot bid, hesoarable peace, and one likely to be permanent—for I the difficulties would increase as the spirit of the pesgie trust there is no man an advocate of any other— I want would be roused. So likewise if Russia met with diastase , the Howe of Oeurnoes, by their vote to-night, to put an her government could net accept the terms they now eared. end to that Tense doable system by wild& we have so bug He th ought he had stand the queries for argue. - eletineed aggressive war end protective diplomacy. I went really was , and raised the Wu fairly, but the t the Houle of Commons tomight to say in distinct language , l embraced arid • subject trat 'mg,. and so many co muttons, that it was ism that the time for negotiation is_past—l thiak no man that possible for any person to include even all that related he has read the circular of Cunt Noseirede can deny it. If Wulf. and his owe responsibility, in a single statement. negotiatioas could bring us peace, an honoareble peace—if But be must say that the argument standing t hus' he negotiation could extricate this country from the dif- felt the and the pressure feetties and the dangers which surround it—if I the continuance of the war. The hon. member for Man I lutes thosght that there via% 1 . I war, laaviege se afshinsema, diet I have been led to Whet a wastaasse whisk, astlealstadly, airtime sareassasly atigiraalimiab—ar laity are ro Imam, hate I li ad do public ger widt very mat Mr !tat = ta r ° of a lad disalateat—(baar. kat)illad which dd , war sat waded the attaative asiikUwedda 9t all rata. AR% •Zi74.4 .7 mh r t that tag had Weaned raapitaibility by wasptiag a Nisi Wow that bakilp way tide brae. Mow. bow.) It was impossible far ma. laaiiiabt is Mil W s s a dm OW gap it e ° w a w a . I. as k that W Naos at Om sad t.~.a..aresiaLa this tam but Mot cheater on a late occasion, when he (Mr. Gladstone) Ir. on the Treasury bench, made an appeal to the go and charged them with being not guiltless of the Zeeg lilli 4 ,Nt an unneosseary war. He did not accept that challenge h e hi believed the war to be just of the class which wases4l4 on at a distance, that it might not be carried on at hems. t h a t wee waged in the Black Sea, that it might ae l b e car ried on in the Mediterranean; just as the gr of the Greek orators called on his country to wage arse h, Thessaly that it might not be waged in Attica, Bat i d ea Russia had conceded so much, and when the state of was such u to place those in the wrong who were fo t y in the right, and those in the right who once were is tly wrong, he should fail in his duty if he did not rais e h e voice in entreaty to the house to pause. They bad on % within the last few days some of the fainter traces of tie many desolations that war entails in the forms of th ee heroic men who received from the hands of it e , jesty, he would not say the rewards, but the tor so of acknowledgment of their valonrous deeds. Many da ft they were rejoiced t 3 see, with their noble forms again w id, and with the elastic step of youth and health once eaasa But would they say to the thousands of their counter' s' who sleep beneath the waves of the Boaphorus or the reeks of Ballade's, would they say to the thousands of oa r gallant allies who died side by side with cur own mac,. men, fighting the same battles Sin et Trojanla cam motto gloria wenn Sanguine; aunt Illis sac tuners, parqua per ornate Tempest's : cur Inderome in bade. prima Deficient'? oar ante tub.= tremor emoted anus? The sword and disease had wrought ravages on theta w well as on ourselves; and if we had lost 16,000 gigh it spirits, twice that number of gallant Frenchmen had palm away also; and if that were so, four times as many Tune slept for ever. Nor was it any consolation to him to lean from statements in the Time. and elsewhere, that the lose the Turks had been 150,000. If 16.000 Englishmen, 30.000 or 40,000 Frenchmen, and 150,000 Turks were numbered with the dead, it was no consolation to him to think net 260,000 Hushing bad perished too; and thus that halt, million of human beings had lost their lives in this son, there being at the rate of 1,000 • day an n . tiaguishment of the life of our fellow-craw If we were now at war for a cause that would bear the gr. estimation of our consciences and the eye of Gad, oar nelr sciences must be cdntent to accept the hard necessity. B E on the other hand, if that was not so, and the war was ow. tied on for some trivial and petty object—and, worst deg, for objects which we did not dare to avow in the lace of mankind, and dare scarcely avow to our secret CClvit tione—let us, in God's name, do something towards the tut step to putting an end to the prevalence and desolation this awful scourge; let us, by the acceptance of terni est. Lions arid honourable, like thou proposed by his tan friend, do something to open to Christendom a hope an, return of happiness and peace. (" Hear," and cheer.) Lord J. RUSSELL said that the speech of his right ban. friend was one with which he found it impossible to sgre, yet he willingly gave him the tribute of saying that head discussed the question in a manner worthy of it and of himself, and had considered in a manlier dos le its importance, the question of the cessation of the wet, had placed fairly before the house the ergs. matte which weighed his shied to the condone at which he had arrived—a conclusion to which, if eta. viand by his argument, any man in that house or the country might nineribe. In so far as the spirit of the speech of his right hon. friend was concerned, it we totally different to that which characterised the speech of the right hon. gentleman opposite (61r. Disraeli)—(beer, hear) —who seemed to have lost sight almost entirely of ths great question which ought to occupy the house ; who gen them no dear account of why he wished to content. the war, and who spoke, (to use a favourite phrase of hie own) in ambiguous language on that point, and donned the house for two hoop and a half—(hear, hear)—by party attacks and ingeniou sarcasms. (Loud cheers.) But before be (Lord J. Russell) spoke of the right hon. gentleman, and attempted to &tend himself against the attacks the right bon. geivieman had made on his conduct as a member of the conference at Vienna, he must remark, while yet they were fresh on the arguments and topics brought forward by his right boa. friend (Mr. Gladstone). His right hon. friend said most truly that the terms which had been so decidedly rejected by Russia went far beyond what was originally asked by the allies at the commencement of the was. But surely his right hon. friend ought to gin some weight to the obvious consideration that such was the pteseetsate of things, because princes and states, who were unwilling to eachange a state of peace for war, and who might Wei that it sufficed to put off the immediate danger, might a tee tent with easy terms; but when once the Rubicon was pared, and two Powers were in conflict, it then became them to think not what would have been sufficient some time beton, but how to obtain a peace which had is it the elements of security and duration. (Hear, hear.) He could sot therefore, attach the value which his right hon. fetal attached to • change in the terms oa which peace was to be concluded. That a great change had been effected is Russia—that she felt the pressure of the allies as hap rants and the preemie of Austria constantly increasing he forces and threatening her with hostilities unless she gin way, and that she felt the pressure even of that et padition to the Crimea which had !en so sad °ensured, there could be little doubt, and that thee things had caused great changes in Russia. But the immediate question was whether or not there was not sock danger as to render it necessary in concluding • pesos cause it to be such as would give security fur the fatter, and tocousider in what that security was to consist. (Heat.) There was one danger with regard to the Principshuu led one point of the negotiations was adequate to the disposal et that danger. The second point had no reference to sal question between Turkey and Russia ; but the third pee did contain a declaration that it was necessary, the first place, to revise the treaty of 1841, is order to attach Turkey to the balance of power li n Europe, and neat to put an end to O. pnponderance of Russia in the Black Sea and now hie right hon. friend said that he saw in the term' proposed by Russia the fulfilment of what was required by that point ihdßaveienghiminadtheatththateprßopuiosiiatinonp,leoefieopcsurnetwiti was . not der led o thinke es. But the proposition was that Russia, bating twenty sell of the line at Sebastopol, might, as was shown by the great military authority of Marshal Merman, and by others, though not of equal emineace, take advantage of that fleet to sail for the Bosphorus, end lend se army in its vicinity. What was said by Russia? She said she would consent that the fleets of the other paten should come into the Black Sea, provided that at any tie the Russian fleet might be at liberty to go %Mali On_ Straits. The consequence of that would be that Beale' and French fleets would in peace seldom go into the Bah Sea, but the twenty sail of the line of Russia could at cal time go to Constantinople, and at the gates ef tM Sultan's palates impose terms on him ('' bolt hear," and cheers),—and thus what was forbidden by the treaty of 1841 would now be easy, and that wen what the Russian plenipotentiaries called a cornelnen with the terms proposed. (Hear, hear.) After we en left Vienna, another proposal was made, which alright hon. friend seemed to think would afford a sufficientene rity. That proposal was to leave the treaty of 1841 es is now was, the Sultan retaining the principle of the close of the Straits ; but that when Turkey was menaced she should have • right to call the fleets of the silicate her et. sienna. He (Lord J. Russell) owned that he sew or any security in that proposition. (Hear, heat) 1) was true that Turkey might exercise the right of alai her allies to her assistance, but, as Marshal Marnthet reit everything in such a case consisted in priority, seat e fleets of the allies might be at • distance, and the flew Russia being in the neighbourhood, it was bable that any menace would be put into an' tion before the Sultan could call up tie "" of his allies. He owned that if such terms had In g insisted on, Turkey would have had a right to ea t e • I . there bad not been a pr per fulfilment of that teeeee r third noint. He should say that if the third pone " been fulfilled by terms so futile as those whiff Ro offered, it would have been an attempt to deceive Bunn°, a unworthy of France and Ragland. (Hear, lo° ,:i It would be better to say at oace that . we wer e acne toat an end to thepreponderance of Russia is o , o _ Black Sea, and that that p part of the security sought route abandoned. But the niminution of the preponderate* Russia in the Black Sea was one of the main eativiln which we have tried to obtain by the war. If that len _, A ° obtained, Turkey would be subjected to greater dear to cause the war to cease without obtaintag a security erne . that danger, would be to say that we had been defeeln His right hon. friend spoke of the necessity of sulln4 l success. He agreed in what he said upon that sables' one would say that, independently of any terms of paten at the security of Turkey, it was necessary to have m i ll sasses. lie agreed with his right hon. hind fee , never had the valour of English soldiers been brighterin did their powers of endurance and patience steed wft; as in the present war. (Cheers.) Therefore the" e at I ntensity of military success. But, having failed is 0; in satisfactory terms, to leave Sebastopol studios withdraw their army, would in his opinion only seis7 4 the danger for the future. (Hear, hear.) If th e y wen ; only to relinquish the terms of pone they Profeen d, _,; were in addition to withdraw 150,00 0 or 200,000 Ye e: sad British soldiers from the Crimea withoel at seeding in their object, that would be a .":j", addition not only to the prepo n d eran ce of Ine",, , in the Black Sea, but all over the world. He would now come to the question of the negouel_l.k with which he was charged, and he must say the. ( r., he thought the unease of these negoti a ti on s come w ens iry. , the range of possibility, he did not think that success man very sod , that he e t w w as he vezy ee tru he e t , as ha t h h it e 2e ri t g ed ht t h e e di n . pi r om u n t and was more accustomed to parliamentary lire tei, act have been the fittest person to oondact aegonations. Bat when his noble friend Lore;): random told him that he wished he wou ld undertake tr..: when his noble friend at the heed of the governmealw