The Express. — London, England, 1855-08-04 00:00:00

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Tbs prelemee le s t. to merle at Inatery, dopapby. &diem, Teaseepra, sad TreeeL The lent weeks at &doe an also freely aildrier mese apply to CALM= ZDWAILD MUDI4 Pte, New Osmed. r et. Jort putnissi,riew and ITIRE CURABILITY orBIIB II 6 I OI I IZN ; being A. a Miss of Pass, sonsting Sis soot pessimist sod Important Point.' is Se Trosmst of Ss Dims By F. H. Lassos; D. 01 Ss CAM of Monism SS lethal Plaploiss se tM hams for Disinosi m efl s lis OboliAs. Abs. ST Mi AsSiff i qrs 61„ • TRIATIIIN as ARTMMA Mat Ss SMART. London : Loners mil THB DAILY NEWS: LONDON MORNING PAPIM. gels mompod 44, simpod 44. lbs Sernsi. Ss Miestsf ass muss mil of owl hi lop whoa soil who of is poorol aroo—fa the roomy if Ito kw hip" owl h Oho mined norloatilo sad ammonia inforno ti oulohoil Is the city, runway, sod soy artkiss—this paps INC1 4 :00111LIMPONDMIS AT MR WM OF WAL volition 11Kt1M IS MIAS.' AND IMPARTIAL. M MinstoCy silo report of slapping is the MM. 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Upper Atheah‘st, Sipa llorissllse 11011/ lims awe& PAILY NEWS LINT TO READ, is Loudon at is.. par isaramr.-46KT by MOWING Mit r y==. RIMO IX), Illa. IL pat qr.-11. ADAMS. P. . Wasimiaisar, N.,. Agana. SPORTING. 000DWOOD Ifs tosilkingo — ionlak - ills ; - ioseellllolllllllWlT iliniiiiiiil. nal MmHg thellogoninismoseloned by the war, mil OM kmmislole goo ==Wiest good we ofkmad Mk "Sinker Goodwood" Itsit Se lialhir gift llikk Prellaffis The MOW um doightliale ma md. flat • kot day. the attend. N Mrkey somoimes The oipoit ems 'Web r klinetiag, sod ilolliollos woe mese' Mk mak OW kdOoked is an ompientern tithe tosidni 7 Ti. COW Brame of Id we. eedi. k lit, WSW Mskied ; 3.yr olde OS 71b ; throe. let ell; Imm Is 711; leso god ipsondl i t .4. 1 1110 z mores allowed ttb. The Mosso to be sold toe 130 atarsl Ms. T.T.C. (7 Naha) Mr. J. Damca's Lads TIM" by Malcolm'. 1 3/17 4 : . 4 8. 1b lINIIg7I 1 Isms IsModdles Himeniss, 3 yrs, Est 71k ......( 1 Wit, Poresere Plosolhig, 3 yrs, Set 61b ........ . 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PIM Flown) 3 Yr. cingUle's Agtolnetts . Mc 71b Tao Dreg or Returns WI PLATE (ilaadlssp) of 100 or. Mr all ere. New WM. Mr. MOMS . . gets kar, by Planet, 3 yrs, Sit 1"lb (IThady) 1 BO W. Booth's Protest, 4 yrs, Stfro (Plasti ) 1 Iced Thetee't Nicotine, S 7rs . 7t 7111 (Alketoft) 3 thrsoromam of leo so.i. sub. k ft, for 4.yr oldi ; Will Mt 71b, Allise St 31b. Pats weight for .errata winners. Cop mans. (4 solos.) Lord Derby'. Acrobat, by Itburiel. lot 71b .. (Barthoiongw) w o Tog Qoaaa's FLITS of 100 brier; S.yr olds 7st 41b, low Sot 21b, flee est 111 b, ale milessed 1081 Alb. Abaft three Mks dm Wimp. Mr. Tbellmensk lialisilan, by the lams, 3 yrs, Itst illb (Joss) w Tim Wenn ammo (lharflop) of 10 som. each, k f . t, M with SOadde o d, ' kr Ilme alds mil spooode. Loot Nine Totten ad • Lk of the Draw. twists WOOD QOM (o 0 gala) Hr. Ilanifo Sokskr, by fiend, 3 yrs, Itst kb (Hr. C. Banks} 3 I Mr. Osteldsksofelascelles.s yrs. 10st 7lk (Owen Lewd Matson Rollemmoo, 4 yrs, 10. t 1011) (Captain LAU" 3 sarriNo ON THE COURSE. 111101 HANDICAP. 3 to I *gat Ilmilp (011) l4 to I apt Hoopodar If to I —ipam itsdsa (I) 14 so 1 Takla 11 to 1 Illesesbon (t) 100 to 1 Itortfivit 14 to 1 Omahas IT. LEGER. 7to 1 likeektssee (1) 6to 4 apt 011ighill (t freely) 10 to 1 apt Ormolusfrosty) Ragrions 7to 1 Lard tithe Wee (t) 4to 1 k (t ott's lot (of) II to 1 Oromehm (t) TSB DERBT. IS to 1 gist Foy by alibi (t) ISO to 1 apt Oncost (t freely) fa to 1 Psuoletto (I) 33 to 1 loebiddes Fmk (t) 13 to 1 Wilton (t) BETTING AT MANCHESTER—FRIDAY. EBOR HANDICAP. 10 te 1 scot Homily (01110 take) I 13 to 1 opt Demasditli (of to t) le 22 I Midemosser (off to If to 1 Hogaroskie (.1 to take) take BT. LRCM& 6to 1 sot Dolmas (of) _llO to 1 apt °makes (of) DUIY. 10 to I opt Wowtrorth 40 to I soot Foriiii•roult(off) 111 to I Fly•by-tliebt 40 lo 1 Visimalla (0) 30 to anatory (off) (off) IIS to Atrififf) Bell's Life matradiets the report that the days of Goodwood are masabered, and asserts that, at gement there is so likelihood whassver—at least, anise the lifetime of the pests% peewees. of the rairosilesse dotal iimtals—of Ow asses bin alaadeaed. ly. Idibisa rases will be held as Wodssmemp. Thus mod Fiday weak the Latter day befog Mewled to the "Club Mestlag." The prognouse promises three good Irevt• A meeting of the members of the Administrative Lubec Association is to be hold at the LOOMS Tavern, t.a Wedaesday, to receive a report from the soonaiitee. The first brigade of the Foreign Legion is so well advesced at Sherariliffs Carap,that it will be ready for service is the Crimea as tea days. Its Ours at bkoraclaffe will be tilled ay by soother brigade, whisk will be formed la less Moss thee the first. The Jaoior United Servise CIO he remind • sokadid way of Wiaterhalteee paws of the Papaw Napoleon It is fall 'eligible& lib aims. Ilrbbb public have bees made funds: with this platen* by the garnets's The likelier I. perfect. PROSPECTS OF A WET Arruss.—ln the month of July, just paved, time fall 6 inches sad 3-tootb. of an lash of ram at Chnwlelt ; an amount only owe registered is the nose egoista aim. 1797. The average dog* of rain asar Loadon may ho called is round aamhen 24 limbos. Duties the year 1854 there fill so little rain that at the be gin* of the priest ybar the total snout wee nearly 6 tsetse below the anal quantity. Vomiter* to restore the avenge within the year it wee aeosseary that 1866 should knish 29 Waal. What had estnelly been registered at the sad of last June woe as follows :—Jesuary, 0.10; Niamey, 1.36 ; Marsh, 1.76 ; April, 026 ; May. 1.94; Jim, 1.48 ; io all, 6.88 imam ; but ibis alga was 3.07 below the average ; the meal fall is the AM Az mouths of the leer b 9.96 lashes. Beam then remsised Stlb lid of Jam a elegancy et mar maw Ibes 8 ashes et esekeeery nis. Now, U Ilk kW obt 0001141 ete year sa an enrage 14 ban out of the anal 24, we ought he essene 29 Maim betimes Illkleeasse sad Mishima.; its ear iris, there met be is the preml haltwer seesle as meh sole as min* _Adis Is a whale year, provided Its average le le be easered Were Chehalis& July mesa 11* _beldam 3 - 42 Was& lei yap it las pre dead 6 $ :law The Imago has begun to be restegag, sad Aland et 91 Raithe, we haws le Ise• Carr lac, Ameba le /gem s e lms esly shoal lashes less ism k llid. We deemaeleheenees hem these taw ; b u t it own he owned then they de sot 011111011- NODS 19 Diped a dr; asbusc—Oarimese• Chroisick. ~~ IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.--FiuDAT, Allover S. The Loss CIWICILLOI task ids east et 6 Vasa. MESSAGE FROM THE CROWN. Vicrozia RZOINL.—" Ha Msjesty deeming it expe dient to provide for any midi/Maid it:pease weigh may arise is osseeqsesee of the Wll la which her Majesty is now esgspd against the Emperor of Russia, enlist on the idea dam of the HOU@ of Lards for their smearrenee u such means as stay be semeesty to make provision &mord ingly." GENERAL EZATSON'S CORPS. The Barlolilaillcolf,TATHl wished to ask his noble friend whether her July's government had any reason to believe la the reported aseaniaation of General &mhos. Lord PANMURE said there had been disturbances amosgst Use troops under General Beason, but he had no reason to believe is the report nt his assassination. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH understood that in eon sequoia of some iinesinal difficulty the COMISLISSIrIat de panelist esperieseed some delay in obtaining supplies. He wished to know whether that extended to General Semmes limps, balsam if it did, It might amount for these disturb anew. Lord PANIIIIIRE said it did not extend to General ise•tesere eons. An saddest betel a vessel, the (lutes, he believed, which de'ayed the supplies a short time, but the serve of General Bestion was reaularly supplied. The Bari of ELLENBOROUGH said that if the surges., tiun he had more them once made for the formation of a Us. honeedas sons from India, had been adopted, it would form the useless of an army ow which they could depend, aid might act as a body guard to the general which would pat down any disturbance at once. He did not believe that either General Benison's corps or the Turkish contingent would succeed oaten there was a nucleus of lishomoden irregular cavalry from India on which they could depend. Lord PANMURE said that from the beginning there I was some doubt as to the oesanisation of the corps under General Boatmon, and he was sorry to say that from what had occurred, still further doubt was thrown on it. But with ragand to the Turkish contingent, he was happy to be able to YMrm ths house that the organisation of that force was geseraill with greater success than be could have astialpsgml. troops, both cavalry and infaotry, acted with Us poetess alacrity, and showed the utmost obedience tv thsaammands of their officers. He must do General Vivian smil the other °flare the justice of restarklag that Use puninne• and dieerstios shown by them la the manage meat of the forces was beyond all praise. He usderstood that the British oaken arsched to the corps were already able to a great silent to work the nes In the field Is their own language. The cavalry now numbered 2,000 men, and were very well mounted. Neither the general nor the °Moen found it necessary to have a body guard. The Bari of ELLBNBOROUGH inquired what was the strength of the Turkish matiagent. Lord PANMURE replied that there were now 10,000 Infantry sad 2,000 cavalry. TURKISH LOAN BILL UAyetwATisx.—DAlLY NEWS LENT TO ILIAD; sad appeal lb the seestry b mass past, at MC& yts germ, paid la . U. 1011111C1. Orovolarrese. Wag. erimageNt. adinme The above bill wee read a wooed time, after various objeetioes bad bees offered by the Earl of ELLIINIOIIOI/011. Their lordships ad' eara at a quarter before eight o'clock. a, Atm. 3. ROUSE OF 00 (Coutioned froze yesterday's Express. ) ORDNANCE BILL --- TAM bill paimal Wealth committee. The home rose at foes o'clock. Tao anise coca romaccd at 6 o'clock. DISTRIBUTION OF MEDALS TO THE BELA- TIONS OF DECEASED SOLDIERS. Lord R. GROSVENOR inquired of the Under Secretary for War if the distribution of the medial to the relative* of the soldiers who bad fallen in the present war was to be delayed to some indefinite period ? Mr. F. PEEL had made toiletry on the subject, and as certained that no impediment existed, sod that, as fest as the medal, were obtained from the Mint, they would be distributed to the neat of kin of such soldiers se, had they been living, would have been entitled to them. THE ARCTIC EXPEDITION MEDALS. . . . . . . Colonel FREESTUN melted whether it was the (tamales of the government, in compliance with the report of t►e Arede Expedition Committee, to recommend that beg Majesty would be graciously plowed to grant a deceratioa to the (Acme end men employed in that expedition ? Sir C. WOOD bad not yet men the report of the cos !slam, end could not tell wbat their recommendatimui were. THE DECORATION OF THE BATH FOR SER VICES AGAINST PIRATES.—ADMIRAL WAL COTT. Sir C. WOOD wished to make some explanation with regard to some words supposed to have fallen from him on Tuesday last, in resisting the motion of the hon. and gallant admiral the member for Christchurch. He (Sir C. Wood) thought, in what he said on that occasion, that be had carefully guarded himself ag►inst **y ips • word which could by possibility give °ileum or wound the feelings of any one, ►ut he had since received • litter from the hon. and gallant °Hoer, chargiog him with having used capreasions disparaging to his profession.' character. The words complained of were these:—" But the service in question not baying been thought worthy of this distinctive honour at the time—now nearly • quarter of • century ago—l must deal's' to accede to the hon. and gallant member's motion." Now, those were cer. minty net the words he (Sir C. Wood) used, nor did be Sod that they were attributed to him in any of those organs to which they were lo the ►a►it of looking for reports of what took pleas In that house. Nor could he have given that as his reason for resisting the motion, inasmuch as it was not the ground twos which he opposed it. The reason he gave was, that it waa not proper that the House of Commons should interfere with the distribution of honours, which ought to proceed from the crown alone, as being the fountaia of all honour. (Hear.) . . THE MUSEUM OF PRACTICAL GEOLOGY. Viscount EBRINOTON wished the boa. member to state what days in the week this 11111/01101 was open to the public. Mr. BOUVERIS replied that at present the museum was open to the public on the three first days of the week ; bu' it bovine been thought advisable that freer access should be Riven, it had been proposed to open it on two additional days. (Hear, hear.) Some delay was, however, oceasioned in carrying oat that proposition, owing to the time occupied in preparing the catalogue. THE TURKISH CONTINGENT. Colonel DiiiiNk caked tie Admiralty whether there would be any objection to odium belonging to the Mariam being appointed to service in the Turkish osatingsat is the soma way as other military *Moen ? Sir C. WOOD—There is the greatest objection to allow Marine oaken cur active orrice to joie the Turkish eso tiageat, sod for this obviate mina, that We weal their m aim oluselves. THE SEIZURES IN THE BALTIC. Os the question that the order of the day be sow read, Kr. It GIBBON said I rise to pat a question either to the right bon. baronet the First Lord of the Admiralty, or to the noble lord at the head of the government, as to the mode in which the government are carrying on the war in the Baltic. I hay. sown it stated in the Dahlia pap*. that Admiral Dundu, about the latter end of the month of May or the beginning of the month of Jane, issued a proelema. ties containing what purported to be instreetious from the 'overusing, to the offset that it would be his duty to cap ture merchant vassals coming as trade in the Gulf of Finland, being the property of Russian subjects, and that in cues when such vessels appeared to be of small value and sot worth goading home for condemnation in a prise mart, the inensetiess were he destroy each small and oomparatively valueless nesele. Now I want to ask the right hon. baronet the First Lord of the Admiralty whether each inennetiese lave rosily boas nosed, and if se whether it is auspemst Ise the inantim government to surlier as admiral to &golds ors the property in the sersred ship, or whether anh duns ought not in all isms to be NR es * owe d seupstaut jurisdiction mbeest al awn the immilks libelist the ship is to be de use haidisdl by mart, just se, if it it we :rd Auld with se a peek • is seminary that it should Do decided by a smut wheeler it is to be usdemned or not ? (Hear, hese.) I waist Nub the debt hem gentlemen whip dew sash losUustices al hoes Mods& he bays been issued, sad slut whether she bur serried out the M unition they haw pa essilalsed al respecting private property while is she of the stew, and of rends not eng aged kinds whit the sum. or Wes with cargo / That I ins pods. • sound rutin lam anxious to put, oldies to the debt lessessisms sr es the noble lord, is whether any sionino her beau made by the goverseasst of the Ilalied Is the British government in rehouse to the debts of ..steal ships? I hold is my baud ths loM smear of the Pialleut of the United &sass Is Ouirssi, la whisk be says that "a proposition rainsikeost slaty the rale that free ships make free goods, usage Sir Midis °Gateshead of war, but that neural pro perty other this sosteshend as saes. susay's ships should he metope from otainiediu his bun submitted by this reunion* me the govesimoillitifisierc; I west to ask whildres soy treaty er seirosliss Is effeet is ender the ssosileislin of the ~__matt The President she gess its Is say, " that Emil the isailise powers of Europe sums is the proposidin, es a lute d iaternaticnial law to mug* ulnas preptdy term seinen by public armed Mises es wee se by plw the Vatted Staten will r=Eases tie. ups& tot pseud" (Nur.) New s Is haw whether its osisinnunt have Ulm las meilsoseKtbe prtphilr elrealralse bite s ~ / - e bt vt*l3rt%% LONDON, SATURDAY EVENI!G, AUGUST 4, 1855. wth foreign countries, for the purpose of adopting such regulations as a part of international law ? (Hear. bear.) Sir C. WOOD—With regard to the last question which the right hon. gentleman has pat, I do not feel myself nom patent to give him an answer. I may add, that I am net aware that any such proposition has been made--et all events, no such proposition has been brought general consideration of the government. As to the first gateau's, the order issued to our cruisers acting against the enemy in the Baltic, as elsewhere, is to take, burn had destroy, and is assenting those orders a due diastion must always be exercised by the officers is costumed, as to the most effectersl node of carrying oat tie °West with which they are charged, as.—to put ea end to the traded the enemy. (Bar, hear.) With regard to the further question, I have to state that the order is not 'mahout simply to vessels under sail, or actually navigating, but emends to those whirl might be used at a short mottos for that purpose. It would be absurd to suppose that because a vessel was lying in harbour, or at anchor, wider such circumstances she was not liable to be taken and destroyed just as much as though she was under sail. All coasting vessels belonging to the enemy are liable to be taken and dealt with as passe, or destroyed, as best suits the couvenience of the cruiser by which they are captured. Thus in the recast operations in the Sea of Aar f, the Wiens is command of our cruisers escrihoed large sums of money which they would have (wen entitled to as prise money, rather than capture the ships aid sad them home for wodemnatioo, because they believed that by taking that wares they were beet performing the service dof them. (Hear, hear.) But with regard to small vessels that were not likely to be used in conveying merchandise to foreign places, or supplies and stores to the enemy, and the greater pert of the vessels Like& and de- stroyed in the Baltic have been vessels actually employed in woveying stores to the works at Croastadt—with agora to the smaller vessels not so employed, or likely to be employed for that pupae, they have been per. mitted to pass. I have already laid upon the table papers relative to the proceedings at Hango, and to the vessels which have been captured and destroyed, and if the house will allow me I will read two paragraphs from those papers, which will show how the coasting vessels are generally dealt with:—" 6th October.—Captured a small schooner, partly laden with salt. Destroyed the schooner, and took the salt on board. 91b.—Captured another vessel—a small sloop; but finding that she was not engaged in trade, and that she belonged to a very poor per- son, let her go." Now I apprehend the Marcia neces sarily rested in the officers commanding our cruisers was properly exercised in both these instances, in accordance with the intentions of the government instructions. (Hear.) Mr. OIBSON—Am Ito understand that the jurisdic tion of the Court of Admiralty is superseded, and that it is for the admiral is future to decide whether the vessels cap tared are Russian property or not ? Ars such vessels not to be carried home to be judged by the proper tribunal whether they are lawful prises or not—or is the admiral to decide both ea to the ship and the property in her ? Sir C. WOOD—I em sot sure that I correctly under stand my right bon. friend's question. No officer is justified in destroying a neutral vessel, but he is justified in destroy leg ea enemy's vessel if he thinks it necessary to do so. He mast exercise his judgment as to whether he will destroy or not. It is nonsense to say that he mast send her home for adjudication in every case. (Hear, bear.) THE VIENNA CONFERENCES. Mr. LAING rose to oall the attention of the house to the objects and policy of the war, es affected by the late new lioness ; and to move for copies of any correspondence will the Preach government relative to the last proposal el Austria. Uroiag the propriety of accepting the Anetden proposals, he said he thought that in candour and immune fairness they must all admit that one of the great WWII of Ewen, like Russia could not, without a eoneklisW able lose of dignity, subunit* a proposal for Tenni:tie, lib mown of her aerial force at her own doors. (Hear, barer„) They must not look at such matten merely through di medium of their owe prejudices ; they must try to tramping themselves into the point of view of a reasons' le Rossini statesman, and he thought such a person might well say, " If soy country is to be bound down with regard to Ihn naval force, at least the must have some eseuritl that in case of anything occurring suddenly to the radish empire, we who have perhaps the largest interest in this question shall not be placed in a position in which we shall have no effective voles." The great ob ject of this war was not to destroy Rorie as one of the great powers. Such an object would be visionary and impracti cable, and even were it not impracticably he should still think it wry bad palsy to attempt to erne and annihilate Russia. It would be the worst possible poilley, •to kis opinion, to dictate such a peace as would of (ties Susie, Name her in • position of antagonism to the Misr powers of Europe, and prevent her from re-entering into those bonds of alliance acd amity in whisk she had lived tar en many years. (Hear, leer.) Everybody meld see that if the war were initinend for an indefinite period, and for an indefisite object, the revises might he placed in the greatest difficulty, and it was for the oouatry seriously to consider whether it would incur another national debt without some clear necessity. Again, was there not very great danger that the aintinumes of the war wadi exhaust the very ally wham they Ind under. taken to neat ? (Hear, hear.) Wes there not much caeca to apprehend that if the war continued long it would accelerate teat which it was their object to retard ? There wm ao one in this country who did net feel the importances of a thorough and cordial alliance with Francis ; and would any one say that if the war lasted for an indefinite period, that alliance would remain as firm as it was nowt Were them not necessarily germs of dissension in this war ? He would take the alternative either of success or of failure. In the event of failure might there not be mutual re crimination. Is the event of mann, was there no danger lest France should be again Inoculated with military ambition ? Was there no danger that the French people would say, " If we an to make them enormous sun. (ices, it must be for some object mere intelligible than the counterpoise in the Black Bea ?" Public opinion in Prance was a delicate subject to speak upon ; but be must say that his own experie• co with regard to it was that the war had never been popular there. Up to a certain point nearly all appeared to acquiesce in it as an inevitable amenity, and to feel that it would be unworthy of France to allow Russia to carry matters all her own way; bat when the question was narrowed to suck an hese as he had stated, he thought the great msjonty must feel that if the war was to go on it ongbt to he on different terms. If the continuance of the war were dangerous to their relations with France, it was still more dangerous to their relations with Germany, which must be the keystone of resist** to Hessian aggression. (Hoer, hear.) If vague ideas were tribe thrown set in this eounu7—ideas which were utterly visionsry and impracticable, and which it was not intended re set upon—through the medium of public meetings sad if the press, he wee very much afraid they would arrive at • position in which their relations with the Germain (*seemliest' would no longer be amiable. Now, the rolls warlike of war being sash as he bad indicated, be would ash, did the people of this country seriously belie* that it was worth while to incur such enormous sacrifices far the mere difference between counterpoise end limitation ? Would anyone seriously advocate the contioosace of the war except u a means of obtaimiog a certain specific object ? When war became the end instead of the means it be came unworthy of civilized nations, and it eras recoocileatde neither with conscience nor with common MIN to continue hostilities merely in order to snowed is a certain *interim. (Hear, hear.) He most say that he thought very exagger ated potions were entertained out of doors as to the jasper tense of meow Ls this reopoeS. If was one of the great evils of war that it se excited thepemions aM influenced the imagination am to make it impossible for men to take • calm view of their politico and circumstances. England and France would not be disgraced in history if they did not succeed in obtaining the desired victory over Russia, attacking her, as they d:d,on her own ea, and under the most disadvantageous circumstances. As to England, her prestige area from her naval power, and it would not suffer because, in consequence of the great superiority of her force, her enemy had not given her en opportunity of achieving rez naval ezploita. What had been done in the fies ofi was of infinitely more importance as regarded our pried, than the takieg of half a dozen Bebsstopois. Sir G. OBEY was quite ready to admit that her Majesty'. governmeat bad no right to complain of the course whit* the bon. gestletuan had taken in briefing again before the attention of the house the important subject to which his speech related, nor could anyone complain of the manner in whisk he bed stated the views which be entertained. but at theses, time it was much to be regretted, if the boa. gen tleman thought it neesseary to raise • discussion upon what bad taken place with regard to the negotiations at Vienna, that he should have adopted the form which he had done of kissing that discussion before the house. His motion was ob jeelionsble on two grounds. Is the first place it wags motion Oa which jt wee quite impossible, as indeed, from the can audios portion of his speech, the hon. member seemed to feel, for the government to accede to; and in the second place it was a motion which, while it raised a question of public policy, would give no opportunity for a deliberate impression of opinion on the part of the House of Comm**. The hon. pedestals (Mr. Laing) sislod for the oommunications which had Weil weds be. tween the Frisch sad }lsaiah governs:eats in re tinues to the proposition which 111/ magi by the goverameat of Austria. Now, the house was is oussession of ample Mfermation with regard to the neptia flout it Visaaa, and to the proposal which was made by Austria after the euferenees were saspeaded, bat before they were finally dosed. It was also is possessioa of the deeisica , se which her Majesty's 'summit had come span that pt o• posed, and of all that pureed at the casferames. It was fun Mar in possession, in esseeguence of therms:tett of the right hoe. gentleenaa the number for Becks, of the iastruetioss addressed by her Majesty's g meet to his noble _friend the member for the eity of Loudon (Lord J. Russell), upon Ala prosoodlai to Vistas es PlealPeteetisa7 as the part of the binge govarament. Notwithstanding this, the hen mentor now meted for 'communications of so mealier e natee that he himself must feel that her Majesty's govern ment would not be acting in acticrdenes with their duty wenthey to consent to produce them. In the town of the wee le which we were engaged, instant and unreserved communication had taken place between the go vennemes of England and Francis with references Midi to the conduct of the war and of negotiations, salt was most essential that such communication' should take ilea in order to • fait interchange of views and opiates which alone weld proems that unanimity of notion read oncraon concert which were necessary to the earryieg as of the enterprise in which both nations were embarked Bat lithos communications were now produced they would not la repeated, sad let the bone picture to itself how series a loss to the public that would be. When two indi viisei—not to my gmernneste—were engaged in a joint uneraking, every one knew how eseessare constant and free ernmeneatiess were to the nooses et that which they bad it hand; when, instead of individuals those engaged were two great countries like England and F , and when the undersides was • neon eery war, the reasons for that memitteintion became unanswerable. Under these circumstances her Majesty's ministers felt it their duty to refeet thew papers. They did so became they believed the prodeetion of them would be prejudicial to the course which therenfore Dad been takes, and to the attainment of the wononvekieb they bed in view. Be shoal th at eventing brush id the subject he needregy no more, especially as the his. member himself seemed to anticipate that his motion weld not be seceded to. Bet before quitting this breach of the subject he thought it was only his duty to suggest to the hon. member, that in making a 'lotion of this kind be nigh; not to lose sight of what was due to the government of France, ea well as to oar owe. After ill this subject occupied but an unimportant portion of the speeds of the hon. member, who had in fan only availed himself of the motion for papers as • means of bringieg before the house his views with regard to tam muse whin, is his opinion, ought to have been pursued Is respect of the proposal made by the government of Austria. The lon. gentleman impugned the policy of the course 'high ber Majesty's government had taken, but only in re lation to the Osat stage of the proceedings is refusing to' mese to the proposal made by Austria as a basis of peace. The hon. member, differing from some of those near whom he was seated, admitted fully the sociality of the war in +kicker* were engaged. He went further and admitted that the prindple embraced in the four poi's', upon which the governments of England and France entered into the segotiations, was a principle upon which it was the duty of the two governments to insist. He want yet further, and separated himself from those who having thought the war jest and neonsary, now Were of opinion that there Were propositions wade before the sunemion of the 4:ochre:ion upon which a ogees might have been based. In floe, times was nothing opon which a difference of opinion existed szospt the coarse which was taken with regard to the proposal of Austria. In defending no course which the government had taken, it was hardly necessary for him (Sir G. Grey) to do more than refer to the papers in which the ' denims of government were stated, for with those papers no dissatisfaction bed been expressed; but, on the contrary, the lespatch of Lord Clarendon had been universally ap proved. The question, no doubt, as the h,u. member stated, turned upon the principles of limitation and counter poise. The hon. gentleman did not himself differ from what was the almost universal opinion, that, as between the priaciplee of limitation and counterpoise, the balance of ad vantage was mush in favour of the former. The govern ment of Lord Aberdeen, and the present government also, without being pledged to the principle of limitation, were decidedly of opinion that it must be looked upon as the safest means of arriving at a satisfactory peace. Bach was the opinion of the Austrian government, as the hoe. gen tleman would see on reference to the protocols. However, the hove was not then called epos to declare in favour of peace upon that condition only ; indeed, it was most doe 'Sable that the future should be left as free and unem- Misused es possible, so that when a future nog giation was entered upon it might be unfettered by any previously existing condition. In considering this question he would trouble the house with one or two extracts fro,n the instran time addressed by Lord Clarendon to his noble friend (Lord J. Russell), and he did so because they would explain in precise, definite, and unmistakeable terms what were the objects and what the policy of her Majesty's government. In the early portion of those instruction Lord Clarendes wrote that In c .mmon with her allies, her Majesty cwt maimed, &dam to see peace uttered to Europe in such a manner as to afford a reasonable asseraece that it will long remain uninterrupted ; but this an only be ex peeled if the conditions of that peace are such as to afford ' a sufkieet guarantee for the future security of Turkey." la a subsequent portion was this mange It will be in vain to stipulate that the Danubian provinces shall be withdrawn from the excludes protectorate of Russia, or that the navigation of the Damen shall be set free from the abstractions which impede it, unless effectual precautions are takes to render the Turkish Empire au integral part of the European system, and sufficient restraint be imposed I epos the military and naval power heretofore exercised by Resin in the Black Bas, and the overbearing influence which, by reason of that power, she has acquired over the councils of the Potts." In this Austria concurred, stating, as she did, that the maintenance of an empowering fleet in the Black Sea was a perpetual menace to the Turkish empire. Lord Clarendon went on to say, "The end in view I is the formal recognition of the Turkish empire in its , character ar an independent and self-existent state, as • member of the great European family, and es an essential element of the balance of power in Europe. One of the mssus by which that end is to be accomplished is the abro gation of Hoiden supremacy in the Black Bea. How this is to he effected with the least inconvenience to the Powers of Europe, is the problem ton salted." The hon. member founded an argument upon the next extract which he should read, by which be excused the course which his noble friend (Lord 1. Russell) bad taken at the conferences; for he (Mr. Laing) said that Lord Clarendon, in intimating the two courses which might be pursued, gave no opinion either in favour of tilll one or the other. H• thought that no such excuse was needed by his noble friend; but he agreed with the hon. member in thinking that his noble friend was not preclsded by his instructions from submitting, as he had done, the Austrian prepare: to the English government. , The extract was this:—" It might be Draught about by a common agreement teat the maritime powers should main ' taro in the Black Bea a force *dogmata to counterbalance the navel forces which Russia has heretrfure maintained, and, if nonintrolled, may again hereafter maintain in that ' sea. But this would be nothing more than an truce, liable to be interrupted at every element by chance colli sions, and entailing on the maritime powers a perpetual en penditure to keep up, at • distaste, from their arsenals, an efficient force in the Black Bea, while Russia, having her arsenals at hand, end her limbers of refuge always open, would be relieved in a great mea sure from the costs to which the other powers would be exposed. It may well be doubted whether, after a few years, Great Britain would matins such an eipeuditure. This object might be effected by a twofold process : by re daciag the maritime force of Russia in the Black Be. within reatinable commas, and by opening that sea, with the consent of Turkey, to the maritime forces of other nations. Her Majesty's goverment would meth regret that the Ports should be so impressed with a sense of its own comparative weaken' as to be prepared to abdicate is power to defend the Turkish Empire against even a limited display of hostile force. It would be better for the nations of Harem that the Porte should be encouraged to rely on its own resources, though left at liberty to call in the aid el friendly powers to counteract the menaces of its powerful neighbour; but the reduction of the Remain naval teen is the Black Sea within such bounds es might, In enepillerden with as equal Turkish force, suffice to provide odletemell protection for mental commerce, would ban sire Testier indirect advantage of preventing, at any future period. the march of Rimini armies on Constantinople, or at all events of rendering any each operation one of eztreMe hazard ; for, as far as present experience extend., the MG. port of • powerful fleet, canticle of co-operating with to. adenine( armies, and affording the means of providing them with requisite supplies, is essential to the mows of any movement on the 'Turkish espied. The imposition, therefore, of adequate restrictions at the sand power of Russia In the Black Sea would give to Turkey the material protection of which she stands in need ; while her rescogni. 11011 as an essential element in the balance of power in Eu rope would afford her • moral guarantee under the safeguard of which she might fearlessly carry out thew plane of in- Cereal reforms and social reorganisation which have been so earaestly pressed upon the Porte for many years." And in conclusion Lord Clarendon said: The bleed and Unsure which ban been so freely expended in support of that policy would be altogether thrown away, if the only result of our efforts shoo d he a ho low truce, to be broken wh a suitable opportunity should arire for the attainment of the long-cheriabed objects of Russian unbi tioe—the subjegetion of the Ottoman empire in Europe, and the *ailerons:nee of a Russian prince in the capital of Turkey." Ho had by reading thus much put the boom folly and fairly in possession of the view* and objects of the goy/raiment in this matter. Them news were pressed at the conference with the concurrease of Frame and Tarbey and the support of Austria. When it betimes sepses; that thee* was no prospect of a successful result it beams • question whether the conferences should be continued, sad It WU in th. recollection of the house Ines notated that her Majoell'eforrfalloot were bloiloodr and shamed with • want of since `ity in the prosecution of the woe bemuse they did not sooner Noon off the scaferences. IlwerWswe, a proposal was altimeseely node by Austria, Ida& wee submitted to the animate .of England and France, and received their most mature onside ration. Undoubtedly 'Jo the course of that consideration consiolledootion• Passed between the two governments, engaged es they were Ise smart. The lace. gentleman now wished to know the remorse which influenced the French teollefenseaL (Stamped Id. Additional.) [TWOPEN CE. Her Majesty's government were bound by ieo daty to that house to state those masons. So far, se they were personally concerned, they were of course responsible to the house and to the country, and in their part, with regard to their own actions, no conceal meat had been exereired. Hese," from Mr. Bright) The hon. member, who objects to war genandly, and hes .(ways objected to this war oepetially, seemed to deny this. If be cer.wdered that concealment had been practised, he (Sir 0. Grey) hoped that he would not hesitate to address the hone', and state his views upon the subject ; none could be more capable then he in exposing hollowness and in. shecerity if they existed, but notwithstanding the talent of **hon. member, be (Sir G. Grey) appcaled with confidence to the facts of which the house were in poesesion. To te nni, however, to the subject 'of the Austrian proposal. He mut say that, after reading the papers from beginning M end, he could find no explicit assurance that the rejection es the t roposols would range Asians on the side of the belligerent powers. (Hear, beer.) The right hon. baronet thea proceeded to read passegee from Lord Clarendon's despatches and the answers of Count Boot supporting this view of the eau, and next Lord Clarendon's written °pi nks; on the oompantive merits of limitation and einaterpsise, recommending the whole despatch to the attentive consideration of the boon. He bad read all these despatches Die said) because they showed distinctly the reams why government had rejected the proposi. Wu, and what ha outonded he was that the proposals supported by Austria were not sub at would, by their accept awe, have brought stout the object's for which the war had been undertaken. Tee bon. gentleman in the course of his nicely balanced argument, had admitted that the counter poke would Le only an armed truce, but added that an armed true was what we had maintained is the Meditates .ears with respect to France, and that it would be no more hazardous in the one ease than in the other. The b ble gentleman said we should of course have to keep • large fleet at Malta; but compare a fleet at Malta and one at Constantinople—the first at a distance and not available on emergency, the latter almost on the spot and ready at • moment's warning. But did the hon. member really think that the pintoes of embers in the Black Sea would have been sufficient ? They might, it was true, look into Sebastopol and see 10, 20, or 30 ships of the line preparing for sea, and might report the fact to the Commander-in-Chief. Remonstrance. might be made to Russia, but the letter would answer that she was acting up to the letter of your own treaty. The hon. gentleman had further said that the limitation wee only en agreement on paper, while the counterpoise would have been • working plan. The hon. member seemed to intl mate that Ru-sic would disregard the treaty, but if that was the ease, it she would disregard one treaty, why dis regard another? If treaties ware not binding there was no we in negotiating them, and he admitted that there would then be no remedy but the convent presence of an armed force, but for his part he could not conceive the can of Russia being placed beyond the pale of ordinary laws, and systematically disregarding solemn tree tits. The honourable gentleman urged that counterpoise would be a working plan, because if Russia began increas ing Its fleet, the allies could go in and blockade Sebastopol. If that were the only advantage, be did notate why it could not be obtained by the adoption of the other p!ao, on any violetion of which by Russia, Sebastopol might be blockaded. (Hear.) He had now stated the reasons which had influenced her Majesty's government in the course they had taken, and had called attention to the documeots which had been exchanged in the course of the negotiation', and now came to the hon. gentleman's assertion that the limitation would have put to great hersrd our alliance with France, in the case of our having to act in concert with the forces of that country during a protracted war. He did sot admit the danger, but if, for the sake of argument, it were admitted, then it would tell as much against entering into soy con tract whatever with France. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member admitted that in 1854 the war was a great and necessary war, and rejoiced that we had entered into it is cosi opinion with France, while now be thought that peace ought to be accepted even et a disadvantage, lest by pro tracting the war the French alliance should be 'odes gered. But had t e sny right to suppose that France would be willing to oaks peace on the terms he advocated ? (Hear, hear.) And did he not think that there would be some danger to the cordial alliance with France, if we pressed on the French terms which they did not approve of. He (Bir o.orey) congratulated himself on the alliance with France, and believed that by going hand in hand with her both in negotiation and action lay the only hope of bringing the war to • safe and honourable conclu sion. With the honourable member's observeticne on the horrors of war and the blessings of peace he perfectly con curred, and felt deeply the responsibility of supporting and continuing the war. If they were to counsel the continu ance of the war one moment beyond the period when the object of it had been attained, or a sate sod honourable peace secured, it would cease to be • just and necessary war. Bat the question was, would that object be attained by such a peaces/ his hon. friend thought ought to be made ? (Hear, hear.) His hon. friend thought that the French Nuance, the blessings of peace, the evils of war, and the risks sad dangers to which the country might be exposed from entering into a war with a gigantic power like Ruses, should; be considered. No doubt then questions ought to be, and were, maturely considered. He should be the lest person to speak on the issue of the war with overweening confidence, or in • moaner unbecom ing the great interests at stake; but he must sey the lengusge used, not by the hon. gentleman, but by others in that house, language which was calculated to throw gloom and apprehension amongst the people of this country, was not warranted by the occasion. When be considered the immense resources of Fresco and Eng.ano, be thought there was no reason to be discouraged because the war bad not been brought to a successful termination within the first twelve months after it was begun. Without lag any undue confidence, he had • right to assume that whatever could be effected by the devotion and gallantry of their soldiers and salon, and the equel gallantry end devotion of the soldiers and sailors of their allies, who shared together the victory and the hardships of the field, would be effected. (Hear.) Of this he was convinced, that the majority of the house did not share is the feeling of gloom which it seemed to be the object and the endeavour of some of its members to instil into the minds of the people. (Hear.) He believed they would not concur in the censure which the hon. gentleman cast on the government for not accepting a peace which would allow Russia the means of aggression—means of aggression which Russia pertinaciously clung to, and which it was evident from her acts and language she would take the first opportunity of using foe the furtherance of her designs-designs which were alllto inconsistent with the safety of Turkey end the permanut interests and security of Europe. (Hear.) Mr. GLADSTONE, enlarmag upon the evils and dh asters of the war, remarked that among the oonsequesom of its prolongation would be the utter exhaustion of the Tay power which see took up arms to defend. Of the alleged exhanstioa f Russia he feud no authentic symptoms. Take any of the ordinary tests. Tele the rate of exchanges— were they vitally effected ? we the prices of commodities in Russia greatly raised ? He was told not, nor had the prices of exported goods fallen. When we were 'peaking of Russia in reference to I. Bunning the policy of the ga vernment we ought to look not to Russia in • large and general sense, but with reference to those part of that country of hich St. Petersburg and Moscow were the manes . • and from all that be could see we bad no right to reckon on the exhaustion of Russia with refer mos to the viatica of war or peace. With respect to the spirit and feeling of the Russian army, he would ask ' any one to put himself in the position of the Russian people and the Russian army. He did not souk of the Russian g eat. Patriotism and religion might be cent phrases with those who composed the Russian government, but it sow not so with the Russian people. Again's*. whom were ' the Russian soldiers fighting ? Against the hereditary ene mies of their race, against these whom they believed to be the hereditary enemies of their religion, against the invaders of their native soil. If then were two incentives which more than others were calcu lated to draw forth the energy of men, however rude, were they cot the names of their religion and their Saviour, and the defence of their native soil against the invader, end how wash to be supposed that those incentives would not work on the Rid sign people. He would relate an anecdote which had rescbed him on good sathority, which illustrated the spirit which the Russian government bad int used into the army, and oleo as it illustrated the tremendous hues which that army had *offered. He had it in evidence that was not concocted, but quite trustworthy that 40,000 men arrived at Penkop on their way to join the Russian army in the Crimea. They were urged by the commander to march thirty vents a day, a long march of something under twenty miles. The men made a represen tation to Limit leader that he should not impose on them any fixed distance es a day's march, but allow them to go on as far as they could. They reached the Russian camp, the point of their deatinstion, in four day', and they lost 10,000 men on the way; they left Perekop 40,000 strong, end they arrived at the end et their march 30,000 in number. This bore out all they bed heard of the enormous number of losses which the Russian army had met with. It might be said that it was impossible that a country could stand such • drain ; but it was oleo well worth emit thing as evidence of another aspect of affair,. It showed the spirit of endurance, tlie devotion to the will of, tldir Emperor, the strength of their patriotism, and their reli giose feeling, when their zeal so outran all other coneiden time, that in the short space of four days one out of every foar of those men lay prostrate in death upon the ground. It appeared to him to be a fact full of meaning. Had the heron noticed what took place in Sebastopol on the 20th of Jose? We knew it through the medium of the papers, although it was • Russian account. The debt hon. gentle , mem then read to the following effect:—" Oa the 20th the burial of the dead continued till the owning, when eke flag of tram was removed end the bombard moot re-consmeneed, thOegb more feebly ; a Ts Des, was sung in the church of St. VisdimlrOMld all tie Wilier. at tended la the clothes they had wont in the hsttle, and there was not a coat that was not dyed in blood ; if. who:4l garrison received the Sacrament, 0 i OA. n• S .ck.n • 'D enying it Snit, .ad the rest of those assemble) :deer him." It might be said that this was fanaticism. but it we. net hypocrisy, sad it woe a sign of that *pi. It which had e nelied Russia to play so great a part in Europe, which would not make her formidable against us is a just tons., but which ought to be taken duly into consideration in a war of the justice of which we had begun to doubt. He was grateful to the hone for the manner in which they ' had beard him. There was never, perhaps, a greeter in stance of the freedom of speech in this reentry, when he reflected that his right hon. friends end biloseit, who had been parties to entering into this war, and whc , h.eing since come to a clear conviction that it ought no longer to be en sued, were allowed teeniest,' themselves with ratite liberty, and were allowed to utter the strongest centime-it. against a system which they condemned. They could hot do so without incurring taunts sad sneers, aid he freely greeted to the government that it they had ac cepted the proposal which bad been preased on them by the noble lord (J. Russell), they would hese hirleited place and power, and been driven out with itivective, sad that which was harder still to bear, with ridicule. He (Mr. Gladstone), and those who thought with hint, well knew what it was she government in such a are would have bad to bear, and la a far greater degree than them selves. They had, therefore, no right to csuplein; they admitted the difficulty in which they, tile ori ginal entasellore of the war, were platesii, sow that they were opposed to it. He did nut complain; but he thanked the house for having permitted him to say all that he thought on this vital gelation. tor he believed that the house wu of opinion that it they were wrong, yet they were the men of all others who ought to try to draw the country forth from she struggle when they could do so with honour. He was not Ashamed to se, that he retained his original opinion of the war. Some honour able gentlemen near him differed with him eutoely in that respect, and he believed they were ready to censure him and his friends for ootssentiog to go to war. li.tween those gentlemen and himself and his right hon. ii ie nit ti ere was that difference. He thought the war just, bud not only necessary, but one which could not he :se °end— that it was necessary to cut the knot of the meehe s of the net in which Russia had entangled Turkey. Ihe war on which he entered was the war the obj• et 01 which was defined in the four points. It was the war it a united people, and, above all, it was a war made ice ti.• o.ute and on behalf of Europe. This country, thin, reeee•ented a European combination, and the authority et Eurepeut law. We were joined, not only with F..'.., but we had Austria and Prussia, beckon,: .• ohs of them had been, leagued with us in . treaty, offensive and defensive, to resist Rossi. in carry ing out designs which were then probable and near. That was the war on which he and these who acted with him entered ; and more than that, it ern ol,v ion. from the nature of the war that certain g 1 rule. were ap plicable to it to which we ought to have endeavoured to conform. It was obvious that if possible that war should have been short, for two reasons—firstly, in es war that depended on alliances ought to he :Ant. It wee not distrust of France, as had been said by theiebeeci eery of State, which led his hon. friend (Mr. Laing) to eiticipate danger to the French alliance ; but the contibuance e. war, the very nature of a prolonged war was to endanger alliances; and every war made by means of alliances ouelit ti lie thort, sharp, and decisive. Some persons might say that hi• and his friends' war was not short, sharp, and derisive ; hut his answer to that was that their war was for the tour points. Condemn it if you liked, but helms speaking of what the war actually was—a war with certain objects, which were defined in the four points; end there objects he thought had been attained; and having horn .twined, was it inconsistent to say that the wer;ought to he brought to a close ? Would it not have been the moil c•diteinp.ible effeminacy of character if a man it his poeit:on, who had shared in the bringing of the country into this struggle, bad shrunk from declaring that it was necessery te got out of it. That was the wet on which he and his 11 in.& had entered. What the war now was, he did not plete•• to know. Mr. LAYARD replied, with much see. riot, to Mr. Gladstone, and contended that Russia had ie. no iestance offered any important concessions. The system of coon tensed's. he believed to be totally inadequate, .ed pointed out that its inefficiency was from the begin ii g of the con ferences reengnised by the Foreign Secretary. Mr. COBDEN would not follow the epee, h of the hon. member tor Aylesbury, to whom he niter li•tebeil, on Oriental •ffeire with the attention due to ere personally acquainted with , the East ; but sometimes, atter listening to him for a good hoor,he wee utterly at a loss tr. kflOWill bat was the policy and purpose he meant. When the hnr. j,eatle man, however, spoke in slighting, if not utmost'. oust terms of the magnificent speech of the right hon. 1331 usher for the University of Oxford, in that wince due respect towards the most eminent orator in that house, the hen. gentleman displayed a want of self-knowledge and a superabundance of self-esteem. The hon, gentleman had said that it wat riving encouragement to Russia, merely to point out our own defects and shortcomings. Why . , had the hon. gentleman ever made a speech without finding fault with everytticg ? (Hear, hear.) Long age he told the house they the Russian army would overrun Asia Minor. Was it, tbetefore, to be charged upon him (Mr. Layard) that he bad invited General Mouravieff to come and besieeo li•di ? If it were encouraging the enemy to expose our own faults and weakness, there wee no greater sinner in that way than he (Mr. Layard) had been. (Hear, hear.) There i: one matter now (continued Mr. Cobden) which I enu t titer to, though with great pain; but it is the first time, and will probably be the last °melon in the present eoaion, for me te speak of it. We have been discussing the Winne of the authority of public menu to the pelicy o' the war. We have been told how the great negotiator. at Vienna were all in f of peace on the terms of the four iodate, and how much respect all over Europe was attached to their jadgment. I attach very mush importance to personal authority in matters of this tort over the mind, .f tie un initiated public; and when I find • right hoe gentleman, a cabinet minister of the crown, uttering sent Illelb ti of un measured denunciation spinet a large body of the mem bers of this house for their conduct here, I th:o le that is not a subject which can lightly be paned over. I allude, sir, to the right hon. b the member for Southwark. Before I sit down I think I will be able to Vilralit.tt myself for having been the individual to call on the rittet hoe. gen tleman to justify hie conduct on that day. 'I sot tight hon. gentleman attacked three or four parties in thi• I ..use—the opposition, the right hon. gentlemen who sit o n the t p of this bench and myself, and my friends who s;t below. The right hon. gentleman talked of the unscrupulous opposition of the followers of Sir R. Peel and of the peace party. He denounced us as nefarious, as unpatriotic bodi. .c , r ryirg on war by means of ambuscade. I suppose be intended to call us sharpshooters. When I find lei genre of this kind addressed to me by a right boom able gentleman who pu•s himself forward es the advocate per excellence of the war, and who, from his high position as a Cabioet Minister, must have authority fa thus acting, I think I am only doing my duty to the cause which I support, the cause of peace—not peat. at ell price, but a rational peace—in endeavouring to chow that the right bon. gentlemen is nut an authority entitled •o much weight when be comes forward as the advocate of war. I want to know when the right hon. gentleman beet ads pted these sentiments. Two years and a half ago. la December 1842, when Lord Aberdeen was terming hie goverament, the right hon. gentleman was offer( d a place in that govern ment—the office named was that of Secretery at War. The answer of the eight honourable gentleman an, that he bad no objection to take office larder Lord Aberdeen, and did not Ma require to be made:. cabinet minister, but that is a government professing to umbraoe every shade of liberal opinion, he should like ti enuw that his sentiments were represented in the cabinet. When ha wall then asked whom he would consider to bee reprenntivive of his opinion, the answer was, Mr. Cobden. (Corer. and laughter.) Now, air, this was no secret communication made to me by the right hon. gentleman owlet the seal of private friendship, but the very same evening t. et the offer was made, before he knew whether he was to be 111 the eobl net, he told me what had passed in the Genteel hell el the Reform Club, in the presence of half a doeen gentle men, some of whom now sit near me (Hear.) I want to snow, and I have a right to ken', whet, it was the right hon. gentleman was converted from the etenimus which were identically the same as mine, when be bream. the great champion of the war. He hes been at the timber ..t the Reform Club, the Eeinburgb meeting, and the $ uttered/ election. Let not the right hon. gentleman thief: to ae• wee me by saying that he and I were of the same V invr en peered politic., but not on the question of re..ea and war. I will remind the home that my opinions on • lila subject at peace arenot new. I have attended large orogen In this and other counties, and joined an agitation the ue!ect of which was to imbue the public with proper unit... eta as to peace and war. My friends well know that when I saw the general prosperity which f01i0...4 the adoption of free trade, I told them that this preepeoity would lead us into war ; wh o I saw the Chobbam Camps end the Spitbead reviews, and alarms of invasion. I felt they cosec all calculated to lead us into war; and I said we comet net do a better service than by gesture/ op en agitation to impreee en the people the advantages and blessings of pone. Toe tight hon. gentleman knew all this when he offered' to meek* Me his representative in the cabinet. The right hap, .' seatannan • and I have long bees acquainted with each othleor lifiewe en - foreign politics, and if there was one point on,.:sit.iten ear • elite& views seemed to be in perfog. r Maki, it was on foreign politics. My first Mut *alie a l - life as life w writing a pamphlet again s t Mr. 1.:44 mg, ei . h •-- lit ,. j was then engaged in a crusade a ga i nst Runt Ai-4. . to an • increase of .5,000 men to the navy, vermin. :.. -' j tient to repel invasion. I begin to think i feat ..., injustice has beenden• my original ad 'nasty. •id •H .r. • Urquhart ought to be now prime mi_ister c: this ri sit. 1