The Express. — London, England, 1850-06-22 00:00:00

IMPEItIAL I'ARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDI3.—FRIDAY, JUNK 21. TM home met at 6 o'clock. Lord LANODAILII sat Speaker. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. FACTORT LADOCIL—By Lwd FEVERSHAM, from a Saes In Yotiphire ; the Duke of RICHMOND, from 'kw of the es•ablisked eillfal at Todmordm ; from fee. tory workers of Manchester sad the neisithouth ,Oti thereof, agreed to at a large publie mass ing , in taros! of an efficient tea hours' bill, and against the elates. Baxamem is Fbvaabiev BILL.—By the Bishop of Sr. DAVI DS, from a place in Pemerokeshire, against the bill. The Right Rev. Prelates:premed his hops that some modi "token in the provisions of the bill would be made in their lordships house. Per oretcx—Dy the Earl of BANDON, from Cove, Bandon, sod other places, on the 'object of postal arrange. manta. FACTORIES BILL. Lord FEVERSHAM said, setting the noble marquis (Lansdowne) in hie place, he wished te, ark him whether be had tivel any day for the second leading of the Factory Bill I The Marquis of LANSDOWNE made some observations, which were totally inaudible is the gallery. The Duke of RICHMOND Pee notice that when the bill mine before their lordships he should move the insertion of a clause similar to that wilco had been moved by Lord Jetha Manners in the Home of Commons, and he would take** semi of the house on the mabjer. THE ATTENDANCE OF THE JUDGES. Lord CAMPBELL wished to soy a word in consequence W an intimation which his brother judges and himself bad received that their attendance would be required to that hem*. They knew that it was their duty to do se ; they were always reedy to elviee their lordships in all matters of law ; but, in cones queue* of the present state of aff ,in with respect to the great teal, to which he need not more partieularly allude, they ornately did not suppose it was likely they would be called upon to give their attendance during the present sesame of parliament. They bad in ceneequerce made a gem:me in the Queen's Bench, in the Common Pleas, and Sxch quer ' whereby, day by day, dorm the remeining sittings, they had appointed important buster's, and the sui;ors would he subject to =inconvenience if those arrangements were to be bed. He believed that the appeals In which the attesdaem of the judges would be required might stand over until the next semi: a of parliament—until the spring of next year. He hoped, therefor*. that their lordships would not exercise 'Lei, undoubted right to summon the judges during the present session, but that they would allow the meting arrangements to be carried into effect. Having made this statement he should leave the matter in the bans. of their lordship'. Lord BROUGHAM thought as the circuits took place the week after sent, the arrangements of the judges could not be kstetkred with. SUNDAY LABOUR I V THE POST OFFICE. ll Lard BROUGHAM informed the Marquis art Lundowne that he and other lawyers had grave doubts whether, by law, the crown wag able to give the directions, in reference to Sunday post-offile labour, which the address from the HOMO of Commons had prayed. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that the point should maim mime consideration. IMPORTATION OF DISEASED CATTLE. TI;l76lUel of the select committee ce the importation of diwese.l cattle. The senatittee slid set pr.poss that as) bil: en the subject should le latrodweed duties the present 'maim, but they called the at•ention of the goverament to the defective regulations which seated with reelect to the sale of au holoome EMIL_ PAILIAIIENTART VOTERS. (IRELAND) BILL. Tloluquis of LANSDOWNE bogged to mqve that the ceder (tithe day for going tuts committee us %hie bill be dis charged ; sad he wished to give Notice that be shoull move the committee es Thursday next. Lord STANLEY thought It would be well if their Iced ships could be metals that the question would be dime:weed on the day sued The Marquis of LANSDOWNE had fixed Thursday. If the committee were farther poetpoeed, it would be owing to Mecums:sane which he caul nd control. ACCOMMODATION OF FOREIGN MINISTERS IN THE HOCHE The Werra' of LiFilDdi'Yeesid he now roes to nine " the app.iintrant of a sekct eanatittee to inquire wnether an improvement can be made in the sassing ar rangements of the bowie, so as to afford better aernimoda- Son for amcamadors and =Whim of foreqrn powers who may desire to be present at its &balm." it. was under stood to say that dreams:snots had OZVIIITeI which rendered it ',toadies% to make this provisioo. On a late occasion there appeared to lave been rouse misuadtretan.liog, iuto which he did sot wish more paricululy to enter than to state that, having had communication with a vs ry animal person who was in the peeresses' salary on Illandly eight, sod who, under a recent order of the Loose. had so strict right to in there, he thought it doe to that penes to say that he bad entered that gallery under the impression that ha had sect right. (Hear.) Two cir cumstance, wanaated this belief: be *Ai a!mittel by the othzers of the how; and on entering, he saw ascribed over the door leading to that seat. "For ruses and the corps diplomatiqus." (Hear.) He had gone into that place under the imprimis' that it woe his place ; and is remain ing, he themes that ha was only doing his duty to the station he occupied and to hie sovereign. It was right th at the repteeentatives of foreign powers should have the ideas ages which they enj , yed in other creintriet, and should be admit ad to that boom noon triendiy terms, sad in a manner agreeable to their feelings. (Hew.) On these grouude, he logged to move the appointment of this committee to con sider in what part of the house the :matin e e se-mbere of the sorArclip:oemoiqu: might bo accommodated. BROUGHAM said he entirely agreed with his noble Bind, sad wished to second the mottos in token of that &greenest Hie lordship made sins remarks, piztly apologetic and partly ezpimatory, of his own conduct oa Holiday evening, in procuring the expulsion from the gallery of a distinguished represent . .eve of a foreign court. In the course of his addrime the sable lord drew a distinction between the respect to be paid to an ambassador, woo represented his sovereign, and an envoy, who represented only a minister. He complained that his demeanour on the scresioa in ques tion had been mat grossly mierepremated is language the least decorous he had ever seen. Earl GREY thous/lit it du t to the distinguished person the subject of this coovercation to say that he knew ae did not understand that he was appealed to, as the noble sad learned lord had staled, to make room for ladies from fettl ing. of conr.esy. (Hear, hear.) He knew, on the ear Wary, that, rightly et wrongly, his itni,mession wee that he was sammoned oat of the piece where he was sitting in sash •at suite that he thought it dae to the body to whom he helaigsd to decline to go oat. He (Lord Grey) had before him we order made by the house ; and he certainly took shame to himself be r.tr: suggesting to their lordships that it was an order which, ander the circumstances, ooght not Ims be made. (Hear, hear.) It did not then strike him, as it ought to have mock him, that the order was one which, ander all the circumstance", ouch! not to be made. But he knew that the gentleman in question did rot conceive that an appeal had been made to him to do what the noble and learned lord said any gentlemen here or numbs* would do, whether he were nghtly or wrongly in his place. Had such as appeal been made in that manner to him, he alinaLly would not have kept his Net. (Hear, kw) After tame conversation, in which the Marquis of Lon DONLIIKUY, the Marquis of BRIADALBANI, and other note lords took part, the committee wee aceminated. PIRATES' HEAD MONEY (REPEAL) BILL. On the motion of Earl ORLY, the Commons' amendments to the Lords' amendments is this bill, were considered and growl to. INSPECTION OF COAL MINES. The EarIofCARLISLE introduced a bin to provide for tae isopectioa of *QC saints, which was read a first time. The Court of Ctssitury (Ireland) Bill was brought up from tba Commons, and read a first time. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE introduced a bill for con tinua), till 1833 the provisions of wana act the title of which was not heard.—lt was read a first time. Dail. lordship adjourned at a quartos to 7 o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.--Famer, JUNE 21. TM firms.= took the chair at her o'eltorii. PRIVATE BURMESE. WESTMINSTER-BRIDGE. On the motion for bringing up the report of the select committee en Weetminster-bndge Sir K. INGLIS complained that the parties bad been allowed by the committee on 'tending orders to proceed with the hill foe improving, amending, or repairing Westminster bridge, without due compliance with the standing orders. Tour years ago he was one of • omensittee which sat on this sables, sad that committee unanimously came to a decision white was entirely at va ri ance with the report of the present committee; for they declared that the foundations of the bride* wen originally vicious, and could never be perma nently meted. Bet by the present bill it was proposed to take the foundation's they [now were, to build upon them. Be did not sow wish to prevent the reception of the mput, but oa the seat stage hs should either divide the house ageism the bill, or would move that it be referred to a "sleet emmeittee. - Mr. Nor PAfTIiN mild that all the select committee bed dews was to allow the subgest to be take lass etheidaratios by • casamittee ef tM house. The reams =Aped by Um estate el the Wastewater-bridge trustees lie ecthiag be. gm thalamus% at ea late a period of [h. Mika was that the bridge bed base Mathis, day by day foe the lest sis moatha, sad that is was nemeses, that some menus should be takes to repair the Grath The report of the maladies *then sommittee would thew kis hen. friend that takethey bad warmish Mhos every precaution &plait any party being a by After mom thavesestion the report was received. PUBLIC BUSINESS. GEBBCE.—TH s MINISTRY. Mr. HUME gave nonce of the following amendment to the stenos of the boa. and Isernsd amber for Sheffield— " to Wee oat all the words after the word • that; with the view of sabstitaties the following words 'taking into eon aideraties the general policy of bar Mahety's Winkler' seder eireunelmes eldiffieWty, this bones lad opinion that on the whole it la ealeolated to promote the Mt interests of the ostiatry, sad, tbersion, deems it undies& he esstbass hi salidenis i• her Majesty's Waiters.* ' (loodool down sad laughter has the opposition.) SMITHFIELD MARKET. Is reply to Mr. Fir:aut. L..rd J, RUSSELL amid that the goverment were &aims of carrying late egret the report of the imainicis en, sad • bill woe orderid to ba prepared is the Hemedlise es the gabfest. (Hoar, hear.) At lio mom time 100 NOM that it would he anassary to maissniests bili g voodoo is tio City bolas *ay maid sok the few to moat to the bill in the shape in whisk b Meaeopoesd M kilo. deer it. EXAMINATION OF MILITARY OFFICER.. Col. REID wished to ask the estretary at Wet, is refo rests to • eiremlar roma hosed teem the Rom Guards regarding the Istare of liestemente eM soptaissof the army, whether too educational essmisatice to which dimes emit rank are to be hereafter eubjmoted, will be eondsetted by civilises or by a board of military officers • whe ther taws who may be erevisg or have served abroad ; sad who may have bees so aides. are to be &slued mike foe promotion, ualme they poems, a knowledge of ° Euclid, algebra, logarithms*. trigsbometry, mensuration, geogrephy, end history"—(laughter) ; whether efficient who Isere rises from the ft :Ms are to undergo Me prescribed examination mad in what manner it is intended that the exentiaers shall be raid. Mr. FOX MAULE said that the examination in mist 'am to the promotion of ensign' or second Ileutenaata to the rank of lientensnt, was to be • Strictly profewional ciae, and would, of mune, be eonducted by . professional men la the army. With re gard to the promotma of subalterns to the rank of captain, the examiastioaa to which they were to be subject would rot Wm place till alter Judy, 1862. Alter that period, am at present advised, all °Moen seekleg pro. motion from the rank of subaltern to that of captain, would be subject to the ',initiation laid down by the Commander in-Chief. Colonel REID said that the army was anziests to know whether the examinsuons which were to take glass in 18,52 were to be conducted by civilians or military °Moen ? Ur. FOX MAULS odd it was 'oddest for the army to know they must he possessed of knowledge such as would justify the promotion sought, and it we of little importaLce by whom the *laminations were made. All that was neces sary was that the otticeis should perfect themselves in the knowledge required. Colonel HELD gave notice that he weeld briog the whole subject before the house on the army estimates. (Hear, beer.) In MIMI? to Mr. Hymn, Mr. FOX MAULS was anderstood to say that the regu lations would be published as speedily as possible. TRANSPORTATION 10 PORT PHILLIP. Mr. ADDERLEY et4hed to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, whether it is the intention of the government to send any more convicts, with or without tickets of leave, into the district of Port Pnillip ; or whether the last despatches have not assured the inhabitants of that district that, in consequence of the disinclination ezpressed by the legislative council of the colony, no more convicts should be sent there; also, whether the government still de stine to revoke the order in council naming New South Wales is a plate for receiving convicts. Sir G. GREY said that the last despatch on the subject was dated the 16th of D.c , 1549, and in that despatch it was stated by Lord Grey that, after the convicts which were then on board the Moreton were landed, no more convicts would be sent to New South Wales—which in cluded Port Phillip—as such appeared to be the wish of the legislative council. The same despatch set forth the grounds which made it inadvisable to revoke the order in council, sad those grounds still remained be force. EXAMINATION OF LUGGAGE AT DOVER AND FOLKESIuNE. Kr. MACKINNON wished to put the following qtteition to the Right Hoc. the Secretary to the Treuury :—Whether the facility may not be afforded to pimento's landing at Editing"' and Dover of proceeding by the train' with their luggage without impediment or dslay, by having their trunks examined on board previously to their disembarka tion, or by a Custom-house itficer being in imendance at all house( the day or night for that purpose ? Mr. HATTER said the: cuminunicatOnas had takes place on Ude subject between the Treasury and the Commissioner* of Customs, the result of which wu that arrangements hid already taken place, or would be speedily made, the effect of which would be to nave passenger from the mason. venience to which they were heretofore ezposed—(hear, hear)—and to enable ad persons arriving at the porta of Dover or Folkston, to proceed by the night mail train without delay or impediment. TREATMENT OF MR. SMITH O'BRIEN. Mr. MONSELL begged leave to put the following ques tions to his right hoe. friend respecting the treatment of Mr. S. O'Brien. Whether Mr. O'Brien was allowed to procure for kinuell. it his own expense, sub articles of food and clothing as, though they could sot be provided by the government, were necessary for a persos in the position alibi in which Mr. O'Brien had been brought up ; whether he was plan , d in solitary confinement; and whether every person on the island wee prevented, under pain of removal, frum Lolding say inter- mune exc,pt such as was unavoidable, with him ; who. that t he pass-holder wee not removed on its being disco- ' trued that he came has the neiehbourhood of Mr. O'Brien ; sad whether, atter his health was restored from the relax- wino which wee said to uses taken place, he would again be placed is a post:bit which experience had proved to be den- serous to his health, if sot destructive Ohio life. Sir 0. GREY said it was quite imp.slible for him to eater into the minute detail. of the treatment to which one individual wee subjected out of sums thousands, who having been sentenced by the laws of their country to transporta- ties, were now undergoing that punishment. (Har, hear.) The right bon. baronet te . .en ailu 'ed to the refusal of Mr. Smith O'Brien to accept a ticket of leave in hie arrival at the colony, mil stated that the r, gular alternative under those eircomatences would be to put him in the same position as other c32v,ct% sad to 'object him to bud labour. But a more lenient course of proceeding wa adopted towards ham. He had been remosed to Maria Island, where he had good quarter., was relieved from coercive employment, was allowed liberal latices, and permitted to take exercise be tween sunrise and sunset within 2W yards of his abode. He bad drawn a liberal allowance of tea, coffee ' and sugar. Oovernmeot had acted with toe utmost forbearance and that he was afraid the only cause that could be urged against them was that they had acted with too much leniency. (Cheers.) •UJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. It yes Zgis;kititittiisllota•at itsTulaitCo:a adjourn till Mouday. WESTMINSTER SEWERS. Lend DUNCAN wished to know from the fint coainds skater wkethes in had gine permission to the commissioners of sullen to erect the ugly chimney that was being built is Terliansent-prdeca, sad what security there was that when it was no longer required it would be speedily pulled doers ? Lord bEYHOULL said that the act of parliament gave very eatemive powers to the commissioner of sewers. They could do what seemed fit to them for the purpose of im proving the sewerage of the metropolis, and "any person" interfering with them was liehle to various penalties. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) The interpretation dame was so worded that In believed the Queen herself was in eluded in the word "person.' (Laughter) Under these circumstances he must decline to interfere with them. (Laughter) The chimney, he hoped, would be only required for a short time, but on that subject he could say nothing with certainty. (Continued laughter.) )(r. OSBORNE wished to know whether any plan had been submitted to the commission of fine arta on the subject, with a view of gothicising the chimney, and bring ing it into harmony with the new house* of parliament. (Laughter.) Lord SEYMOUR said be must refer the hon. gentleman to other authority oa that point—(laughter)--as he was not a member of a coassimion of fine arts. In reply to Lord Duscax, Viscount EBRINGTON stated that the chimney would be probably required for four months. The whole estimate of the sewerage from the sanctuary, Westminster, to l'ercy Wall, was 13.3341. Sir B. HALL mid he found bye return which had been laid belong the house respecting the receipts and expendi ture of the Commi‘elonen of Sewers, from the 6th of Jan. to the 31st of December, 1849, that their receipts amounted to 71,6231., and their expenditure to 85,3451, being en ex am of exeenditure over receipts of more than 13,7001. Out of this sum only 60,0001. was expended on works, the sepa -1 ens of management being 22,4001. On another ocasion the ex penditure had been 37A41., and 17,00 W. for management, being 27 percent. in one ease, end percent. in another case, for management ezpeases. Tee question he wished to ask the noble lord (Ebringtos) therefore was, whether the number of plans which they had before them the esamis ahem had determined as any one piano( sewengpUr he metropolis; whether the expenses of nianagemeat Were about to he reduced, and if not, whether the commissioners woeld consider the propriety of giving up the management of the duties hitherto performed by them into the hands of persoas who would be responsible to the rate payers of the metropolis. Lord EBRINGTON stated in reply that as regarded the financial condition of the Sewerage Commission be would take an early opportunity of explaining it to the house. In reference to the plane, he should say they had to consider • great number of these that bad been sent in, and their con sideration muted considerable delay. They were still unde cided upon, but he thought that in a week er fortnight the commissioners would be prepared to announce their final views as regarded the drainage of the metropolis. (Hear.) ADMIRALTY (IRELAND) COURT. Kr. STAFFORD wished to know from the right hon. gentleman the Seentary for Ireland why the returns which he had stored for ea • previous occasion, in reference to the Coast of Admiralty (se we understood the hon. gentleman), had not been laid on the table I He was anxious on the matter, as rumour spoke of the necessity of reforming that court. Si, W. SOHRRULLE said that if the hen. gentleman had previously gives him notice he would have tensed in quiry to be made In the matter. However, he thought If the hoc. gentleman made inquiry in the Irish-offiee upstairs he would be to get the returns, as It occurred to him (Sir W.lfiesarnelle that he had seen them then. THE EW HOUSES OP PARLIAMENT. HUME rid he Ilad letely submitted to the house the propriety of appoiatiat a committee respecting the new ileum of parliament. The hoses did in comply with that proposition, bet sines flute it had agreed to a separate sem slime. Now, he wished to know from the noble lord who moved the appetizing of that committee what were to be its duties, and whether the present ctoonamodation afforded to sasaben of that home in the Home tot Lords wee to be taken late consideration by them ? At pretest there were only 36 or 40 meats is the wow House of Lords set apart for the member. of the Commess, and he therefore wished to know If that deficit's, wee to be taken into oossideratien by the eraultise. (Hoer, hem) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated in reply that the moral areemsodation of the houses of par benne was to he takes Into consideration by the cestraittee. GREAT INDUSTRIAL EXHIBITION.—HYDE PARK. Lord SEYMOUR stated, la reply to the question of an hon. gentleman whose MISS we Gould not secertaia, that it was not mended to eat dews more trees than had bean Weedy cat do ia Hyde Park. LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. E. B. ROCHE wished to know from the noble lord at the bead of her Ifelesty's goveeameat, or from the right he.. bonnet the Betester7 faltolaad, Whoa 11 was proposed to ge ea with the Lanai gateman& DM, with • view to Ina es diseuseloa risottos eisamakess. Ulna esseatial that libe anew shoald be aseaseed la that home s and there he wished to Ws it whether they were to Isaias bill or sta (11••32 1 .1 Lad J. 110881 ILL wee sadism's' te stele is slyly that caste s gs fit we any day IMAM& lintir max illlniell. • NATIONAL EDUCATION D). On the question that the home resolve itself into committee Only. Mr. NEVIDfi ATE begged te puma a petition from Issamingtoe, praying lot an alterat the existing eye tut of sellout *dustiest fa Ireland. Mr. HAMILTON thes rese to submit the following pro position to the house: That es hismble Ahem be pressand ts bee en that she will be maim* pleased to deem est sea a of the eresses of nine* Wrenn to bird isser he Ma in EV mom thseameismansagnienne wadi a au uspernee of the dafttS and ishon dieseMbilsholl densh eshielei ie lid vase as at perm mrdsi tale s ereasewla Met mean be Mina to easels Olsen the = l 2l Ulu el the enstiseed eirmek who eauresiamsliseasslandemingeenee, be eschminstesideste Use* uwel seunne is Me amid the subjset was of great Impentemse, aad W asted very materially • letie sad homiest dem is this woolly, as wall se la Inked. ilia 'Wet wee to Hate, or rather to rotate to all DM" the Medi* and injustice under which 1,73 D set sr SAN alsesysisa of the established shared in Ireland, so well es a bogs member, more than 100,000 of the laity of that shwa VIM suffering in the matter of education ; to represent to the hones the anomalous and objectionable position in which the church In Ireland was placed as regarded the sub ject of education, and to call on the house to apply such pronto to the government, as would induce them to remedy the evils complained of. (Hear, hear.) Ile Mil ready to admit the difficulties with which the question of education in both countries was surrounded, par ticularly in Ireland. In consequent)e of these difficelties, great sacrifices of opinion bad lately been made on the subject of education. Formerly education was, In • great degree, considered as associated with the established church ; bat the system of state education which at present prevailed, was entirely denominationaL (Bear, hear) Since 1838, when the state interfered through regard for the conscientious feelings of the dhseaten, the education of the children, according to the formularies of the established church, h ad been much absodoned ; and lately, in deference to the opinions of the Roman catholic., further concessions bad been made. Therefore he thought he was justified in Baying that the present system was do. nonaiaatioeal—(hear, hear) —beauty the utmost toleration was practised towards all religious denominations. (Hear, hear.) In 1847, the last year in which a return had been made of the number of schools, it appeared there were 4,088 schools under the national system, 2,605 of which were under the patronage of Roman catholic clergy, 384 under the patronage of picsbyterisa clergy, and only 96 under the patronage of the clergy of the established church. (Hear, hear.) Now, who could doubt that in the 2,605 schools wader the patronage of the catholic clergy the doctrines of that church were strictly taught and enforced, to the exclusion of the protestant clergy tram the management of thus schools ? (Hear, hear.) Ile (Er. Hamilton) lately presented a petition signed by no less than 1,730 of the protestant clergy of Ireland on the subject, in which they declared it was impossible for them to give their conscientious adhesion to tee system • and another petition which presented, signed by 71,000 laymen, gave *spree sion to the same deliberate opinion. Now, putting a-side all party considerations he would put it to the fainters and justice of the house—seeing that in England every religious deno• natation was allowed to avail of every system of rinution if matters should be allowed to re main in that way, and that the elergy of the established church should be thus virtually separated from all control in the management of the system of eduntioe ? In the Church Education Society, at prnent supported be volun tary contributions, the number of schools was 1,881, being attended by 120,000 children, 44,000 of whom were Roman catholic, sad 14,000 dissenters. The clergy of the esta blished church in Ireland, mindful of the great principles of the Reformation, one of which was that every individual should have the uncontrolled right to examine the Holy Scriptures, were anxiour to have that system car ried oat; but the national education intern ' in checking that examination of the sacred writings, acted inconsistently, in the opinions of the clergy, with the great principle of the reformation, and if they countenanced that system they wculd not alone be acting inconsis tently with that principle, but also with the vow taken by them at ordination. (Hear, hear.) Now, what was the plea set up by those who favoured the existing system Parental authority. (Hear, hear.) But the government were aware that tee objections to the system of national education were not confined to the established church. He (Mr. Hamilton) always taought that if the national system were to be carried out to the letter in Ireland it became • latitudinarian system, which was as repugnant to the coned 'shoos opinions of Rusin Catholics es of protestant). (Hear, hear.) Many Roman Cathohcs in Ireland were op. posed to the national system ; and where they at all ap proved of it was where it existed denominationally. (Rear.) lie implored the government to reconsider this question. Tney might depend upon it that it would have to be re considered some day; it was impossible that the existing system could continue. The Irish church lied a right to freedom of instruction, which was one of the most important and essential functions of a church. Mr. WALPOLE acid he had great pleasure in second ing the motion—first, on the griund of jus . .ice, and secondly ea that of policy. As an act of judos it was due to a lay al, faithful, and devoted set of men that the assi.tence which was extended to others so liberally should not be withheld from them. As regarded the question of policy, he tirinty believed that the very system of education which the government wished to establish would be better carried out by their conceding then by their refusing what was now asked. As regarded the justice of the case, it should hs borne in mind that they were now undertaking the great national duty of educating the people of this country, not merely through the medium of public institution., but also by the aid of the n &done! funds. That being so, it was posi tively incumtent on them to see that the principles ca which they proceeded were perfectly fair, sound, and just ; and when they had ascertained thee. principles they were bound to apply them equally and equitably in every part of the kingdom. The policy which they bad pur-ued with regard to England was totally different from that which they had pur sued with 'egad to Ireland. The syrem adopted in Eng land was based on religious foundations; that adopted In Ireland, if not based upon, had resulted in the esclusina ' of religion. Whea it was proposed, some years ago, to establish in this country a united system, like the national einem of Ireland, the government resisted the attempt, al leging that any such system most necessarily fail in this esentry. The government:were giving to dissenters in Eng land a part of the public funds for educational purposes, while ft was refusing such auistanc• to the members of the Mob /lan church in Ireland. Could such a system be just, and if it were not just, ought the House of Commons to auction its continuance ? (Hear, hear.) In the church schools an united system of education had been carried out; and, whilst in eleven•twelf th s of the national schools licked instruction hail not been secured, what was the result with regard to the church ochoolsl In the year 1839 the number of church schools was 1,825; the number of children on the rolls was 43,627, of whom no less then 10,868 were Reams mitholic children. In 1844 the number of schools had nearly doubled; th e number of children on the rails was 104,968, of whom 13,668 were children of protestant dissenters and 32,834 children of Roman catholic.. In 1848, when were made the last returns, there ware 1.861 church schools, and 120,202 children, including 14,713 children of protestant dissenters, and 46,367 children of Roman Whelks. Su that in point of fact nearly a moiety of the child ren belonged to the Roman catholic population of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) There was nothing unreasonable in the principle 'for which he was contending; it was hued on policy, equity, and justice. (Cheers.) Sir W. SOMERVILLE said that, feeling that this Mil lion, if saocessial, would have the effect of superseding the existing system of national education in Ireland, he felt bound to oppose it. That system was professedly, end in his opinion really, a united system. The hon. gentleman (Mr. Hamilton) must be aware that there had been Wiese abortive attempts to establish in Ireland ▪ systole of 'deaden which would enlist in its behalf the vast majority of the people, and that it was met till the present system of education was introduced by Lord Stanley, to whom the country was on that recount ceder the greatest obligations, that the object was attained. TM existing system had now been in operation for upwards of 18 years, and bad extended its roots far and wide. There were now thousands of schools, and hundreds of thousands of scholars were receiving the benefils of education In the national schools. (Hear.) At present the scriptures were set assisted, they may be and constantly were read In these bet the rule was that no child should be Mae the scriptures or to attend any species o;= imlesseien without the consent of its parents. Though that Will sm compulsion it was no exclusion. The este prahlon was the modification which the hcia paths man would have introduced. (Hear, hear.) The moment they introduced compulsion into the system; at that moment the system would fall to the ground, because respect to UM rights of conattienee was the toandatioe on which the @yam was founded. The modification which was propelled wadi have the effect of destroying the present system ead abed toting for it • national system of education ie Ireland, which he hoped the house would long pause before they gave their unction to. It was unfair to say that this was a system which excluded the bible. The snood part of the neo lades seemed to suggest that instead of the present system they should sabstitate a deanainational opium. That wee the word which the hos. member used. He (Sir W. Somer ville) was of opiates that the present was preferable to any such system. If they were to have • separate system ss re waded the established church, they, should also have it as regarded the Roman eathelies and thspresby teriens ; and it was not clear that they maid set be obliged to continue the great to those who were in favour of the united prineiple. In such a case what would become of the poor prelates** WWI 1111111 thinly MIAMIId over she western portion of bil ked t How could )bey Wiest funds to wisest* a halt.doma preesetaats here and aims I Me did set Weis that sash • irks' would be be "wider. le the peoplepeople in Ireland, or wield aMeslated to s ve • real or sound educiatioa. Ha cesisiled by ehmireig that it was absolutely essential, non eideries ell the seed that had bora done by upholding this =Tmid bow pr were better educated under it, o boas should mess% to the resolution of the boa. member, but should jibe him In opposing it (Chows.) Mr. NEWDEGATE, fa of the resolution, said that ha was of opinion that their agresing to it would not preclude them front adopting some system by which those who at preseat enjoyed the government assistance would continue to enjoy iL It was It that belief that he sup palled the proposition of the hon. member for Dublin. Mr. E. STANLEY opposed the motion, and defended the national system as introduced by Lord Stanley in 1831 spinet the objectless of Mr. Hamilton, Mr. Walpole, and Mr. Jiewdegate, who, he observed, were somewhat at thrisees. In inmaiderieg this subject, it was necessary to hupdre Into the system which wee that espereedad, sad, ea the other hand, whet system it wu plumed to substlinto if the uational mtem was abolished. With the diet view, he addued meth 'videlicet respecting the Mete of the edam den question prior to 1831, sad the ill offset of compulacery =rreading in the Kildaroatzeet Schools, whines he ed that the system prior to 1831 could net be de (sada He then examined the only 'theme that mold be proposed as a substitute tor the present system, whim! bad y better that asp ether, sad that solemn* he coma i der i edt v"l icable end usiteeirable. Lord J. MANNERS supported the motion, which he would net do ii he thought it would destroy or endanger the national system. He denied that to be a combined system, or that a sombieed system of education mild, a priori, find favour in Ireland. If the house screed to the motion, they would set supsrude the net( eisl system, wh,let the conces sion would conciliate a loyal and peaceable bxly of her Melesty'e subjects la Ireland. Mr. W. FAGAN, though agreeing that the distribution of educational grants is Ireland up= the tome principle es in Busload was prima facie reasocable, believed it Mould, he the centmettutose of the tomer young, be exceedingly dangarou The national oyster, as it thist..d, was the only system of education adapted to these peculiar circumstances, and under that system the religion et every child was shun. dandy :provided for. He opposed the motion, though he admitted the proposition to be • reuonable one. Sir W. VERNER defended the motion. Ile denied that the Kildarihstnet Society's schools were disliked by the Roman Catholics; and he saw no evidence that the national schools bad improved the character sad habits of the people. The members of the church of Ireland desired only equal justice with the Roman catholic*, and that a portion of the public meaty should be applied to the education of their children. Mr. HEALD explained the grounds upon which, as a nonconformist, he supported the motion, and he repudiated the argument that the church of Ireland had sufficient resources in its own funds. The great question of education should be dealt with upon the denominational principle. Lord J. RUSSELL said—Sir, the object now brought be fore us is, I think, sufficiently important and sue firiently difficult, to inducts to not to mix up with it any question in regard to the church esta fishmeal et Ireland. (Neer, hear.) The question now before us concerns a system of education which is aided and sup ported by grants voted in this house and collected from the taxes paid generally I,y the people of the United Kingdom, and therefore is one totally apart from any question that may be stated or made the subject of debate in regard to the church establishment of Ireland. (Heer, hear.) With respect to this question, then, I should say that in the first place, in dispoatog of these grants, as a matter of justice we ought to make the besefido of the education we so aid as ostensive as possible. (Hear, bear.) We ought to diffuse as widely as possible, among the children of Ireland, the benefits of the education we propose to aid by these grants, and, sir, I think it would not be a fair or a just application of the funds thus derived from the general taxes of the country if we were to distribute them on any narrow or exclusive principle. (Hear, hear.) But, in the next place, as a matter of policy and expediency, I should say that it beu wish your grants to be useful; it you wish to diffuse the nelle(ofgeneral iostruction—the benefits of secular learning, of moralityand religion as widely as possible amongst the peoples of Ireland—it should he tour object to have such a system as will not provoke opposition or jealousy at its commencement. (Hear, hem.) And you should endeavour to avoid all rules and regulations whi ch could induct a suspicion that you are attempting to convey: that which Is the largest, the most numerous, and at the same time the poorest fart of the population of ;Ireland to that religion which hula its hands the greatest proportion of the power of the stets in this country, which is the richest in Ireland, and by the endewment and otherwise is most likely to use that power and that weight for the purpose of proselytising. (Hear, hear.) Therefore, air, both on the ground of justice and policy, it you mean to be just and fair to the people of Ireland, and to diffuse am apt them the benefits of ethics- tith as widely as possible, it is your bounden duty to avoid giving your grants coupled with such conditic ns as may Is. duos a belief that in proposing to promote education you' , mean to convert the children of Roman catholic parents to the protestant religion. (Cheers.) The hon. gentleman' who nag just spoken, indeed, showing the earnestness with which those who are earnestly persuaded in religious matters seek to inculcate their opinions on others, has no objection to use these education grants as a means of proselytising. He avows that that is a port to be adopted. (Hear, hear.) If that be the cue, I submit to him that his object would be defeated by the very means by which he would seek to pro. mote it—for immediately you declared to the Homan catholic clergy and laity that your purpose was not merely to rive to the children a good education, but that your olecet is to pre- 1 selytise inland—(clean)—the y will, of coarse, um them selves against that purpose, and your grants will be confined only to a very small proportion of the people, and those who dreaded the priest would consider it a fraud to accept, and would indignantly reject them. (Hear.) If this be a right principle, we come to the consideration of that which 1 cer tainly shall not attempt to expiain to the botrie after the eery able statement we have had from an hon. member echo has not only shown considerable knowledge on the subject aid great ability in defence of the cause but who has an here • ditary right to defend the cause Of education in Ireland. (Cheer.) But in adverting to the speech of the hon. gentle man who last spoke, I must refer to the very different con clusion which was arrived at by . the commission of educe. Lion—a commission, I believe, originally commenced by ot.e to whom I am nearly related, the Duke of Bedford, while holding the office of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and followed up by him afterwards. (Hear.) That commission woe ap pointed to inquire into the state of MI schools and charitable foundations, and amongst that commission was the Arch bishop of Armagh, the Archbishop of Cashel, the Bishop of Itapeoe, the Bishop of Killed le, the late Provost Blrington, of Trinity College, and other eminent mt. r.. These commissioners laid down certain principles on whi h 1 in the report of 1832 they declare their hope that the scheme of national education proposed by them will be cordially ' accepted by the people of Ireland. And they add these memorable words: That such will be its acceptance we ,ball indulge the more can' ti•lent expectation, if all interference with the Iparticular religious tenets of these who are bimetae that instruction shall, in the first instance, be an, quivocally disclaimed, and enectually guarded against. We conceive this to be of essential im in any new establish ments fur the education of the lower clam, s in Ireland; and we ven ture to express our unanimous opinion that no Ctl,ll plan, honeser wisely and unctorptionabig contrived in other respects, can be carried into effectual execution in this country unless it be explicitly avowed and clearly understood, as its leading priociple, that no attempt shall be made to innovate of disturb the peculiar religious tenets of any sect or description of thristians. ,11 , 11. r, hear.) Such was the conclusion arrived at at that time by men who were distinguished ornaments of the established church of England and Ireland, but who, having a warm attachment to the cause of education and a knowledge of the prop). of Ireland, knew also what would be an effectual bar to the morose of any plan which might be proposed. (Hear, hoar.) Now, sir, considering the whole history of past events in regard to this subject and the history likewise of the various voluntary societies, I say it is no wonder that the Roman Catholic clergy and laity were peculiarly jealous and sensitive as to any plan of education which was to extend to them, and when they heard that the bible was to be introduced Into the schools—that the bible according to the authorized version received by protestants should be read, it was but natural that they should dread it was an attempt to seduce them from the religion of their fathers and to convert them to protestantiam. (Hear, hear.) 1 say that was a suspicion not only natural but almost merit. able. (Cheers.) !With these views Lord Stanley founded the present educational scheme in Ireland, declaring that all suspicion of the attempt to proselytise must be carefully guarded against. These schools were established there on this principle, and have been aided by grants made by this house—and what has been their progress ? The number of scholars attending them in 1832 was 107,000, but in 1849 there were 480,000 children taught in them. (Cheers.) And besides tele they (the National Board) have established admirable normal and model schools in Dublin and else , where. Agricultural schools have also been formed in vari ous parts of the country, and they have thus aided not only in the promotion of learning and religion but in those arts most likely to advance the people in Industry and civilisa tion. (Hear, hear.) They have then, atter seventeen years' experience, a strong ground for the support of this house— they come before you with a strong cue for further support and for the continuance of these grants : they come before you with this claim, that unless then be a strong and overwhelming cause for interfering . with the system, that you should answer any proposal for interference by saying we had been !wig in search of a plan by which various soots of Christians in Ireland might be made the reel. ciente of a common system of education • we at length arrived; at such a erste'', which hie now b an in operation for 17 years, and hes now come to that point that half • mil lion of children are maintained in them schools, and receive instruction lin them—we will not intemperately or India meetly do anything to disceutage such a system, but will allow it to go on, and continue those grants which have solar , been so highly advantageous to tee people of Ireland. (Cheers.) The hon. pentleman who has proposed to the house to abandon this system does so on grounds which, though plausible, always appear to 'me entirely untenable, via., - the scruples of the Protestant clergy and laity being vie laced by the scheme. Now, I can understand very well a parent, whether Protestant or Catholic, saying, " here is a system of education which interfere* with my religious belief, and which does not allow my child to receive that religious instruction which I conceive necessary, and you should not by public grants support such a sys tem." But the objection made be the hoe. gentleman Is of an entirely different nature. It is not that the reli gious opinion of the parents are interfered with in the in struction given to the children, or that their children being protestant. are obliged to receive an education not protest ant; but it is that others, who are not protestants, and who have a different faith, are not compelled to receive au edu cation which would be safflelent for the children of protest oats. (Hear, hear.) That is what I understand by the proposition which has been made on this subject on previous occasions, end hy the proposition brought forward to-day. (Hear, hear.) Bemuse, a far as I can understand it, and that by the testimony of persons of authority on this quee r:war' thil dietr ia .) efa T t he a B th il w or i o e ll C iPi astel of ro th e . en o t h ly eet :a ns m n"" seti4 in Dahlia declared that a protestant child might receive a sotertO t rar:ls ed at the Bibl e t: a "a wes : a ro e a dti b tt a e l d w as aa a t t a hoo a t in the schools when the Roman catholic children were taught. (Hear, hear.) On this point I have the tes timony of Mr. Sadler, • clergyman of the established church, In a pamphlet written buhim ' in which he gives an account of his own school. Whisnesked if he would I be a patron of the stational *oath, he consented, and In stating what was done In the way of religiose etiolation, he says :—" The scripture extracts, which contain all the mesa tial parts of the gospels, are reed daily in the school, and :111t Pa chris Pi4 tian asaa kn ot otallerge"whaitrh at considerable members wabla of a.gr e e v i erc a kept sithe &rioting aimed agree is thinking desirable tra. Inculcate." " The children educated in rival schools would learn instinctively to hate each other, whereas in this school they are hefted op as members of the tame family, In paw and love towards each other." Now this is • prastleal example of the opinion of • protestant clergy mos, do head of • school in his own pariah having Romemeatholieedieolutheteriand protestant assistants act ing together, and Roman catholic and protestant children learning together those scripture extracts and receiving each M them that peculiar religions instruction which Is agreeable IMAM faith of their parents. Now, after this, I think no poison Is entitled to say that the protestant child is obliged le receive in these schools an education which is at variance tvlth the conscience of hie parents. There are some of the eithOole where this peculiar religious instruction is excluded hod the school-room ; and I believe this ham been done at the request of the mere jealous protestants who would not consent that religious instruction should be given to the Roman catholic@ in the house for which the public money bad been granted at the some time with the Manta. Bat, generaliy speaking, the rules laid down in eetrepost of the commission had been followed, that the peculiar religious instraciton may be Divan in the echoed room after the school hours, this only condition being that the protestant version of the Bible should not be read as a school book during school hours. (Hear.) If that be so It is plain that as to the first principle the modification the hon. gentle man asks Is not a modification in order, that instruction in the protestant religion may be better provided for, but a modification that should be contrary to the wishes and which will arouse the suspicions of the Roman catholia by de claring that the Bible shall be read in these ocheole not only for the asks of the protestant children but for the sake of the Roman catholic children also. (Hear.) Now, sir, I believe if you introduce inch a change you at once strike • fatal blow to the system, (lieu, hear.) and those jealousies which have been allayed, and thou suspicions which are now sleeping, would be again arouse. 300,000 or 400,000 children would be at once taken away from these schools, and your hopes of • united system of education would be frustrated and destroyed—(hear, hear) — Bat the proposition goes further—and it is said if you do not approve of my modification of the plan, let the schools remain as they are according to the national system, but let there be a separate grant for the children of members of the church of England—and it teems very plausible to say this is the system in England, why not adopt it in Ireland (Hear.) But, sir, I see no forte in the objection, that th e re is a difference in the system in the two countries—what desire to au effected is the greatest degree of good that is practicable in both countries and if I find that one system will produce the greatest amount of good in Eng land, and that a different system is calculated to produce the greatest amount of good in Ireland. I will take that dif (erect system and apply it to Ireland in preference to a system which, though successful here, would be unsuccessful there. But if you take the plan as existing in Ergland, you should not take it piecemeal. If you say that the church of England, which taken in proportion to the whole population of Ireland does not constitute more than one sixth or one-seventh of the whole, while it possesses the greater portion of the property—if you say, the cahoots in connexion with that church—shall have a separate grant, how can you deny to the Roman catholic bishops and clergy • separate grant for the Roman catholic schools, in order to enable them to have separate schools and separate religions teaching also? (Hear.) Considering the advantages that church has in Ireland,and the means the clergy now possess— eonsidering, too, that the catholic archbishop, MeHale, and others of the Roman Catholic clergy, are as strcngly in favour of separate education ea any of these bishope—u are the bishops and clergy of the established church—how can you deny to them, for five-sixths or ex-sevenths of the whole people, their separate echozle, conducted according to the Roman catholic maxims and exclutvely teaching the Roman catholic religion ? In that case you would have, perhaps out of the whole grant of 120,0201, 20,0001. given to the established church and Presbyterian schools, and 100,0.)01. exclusively to the Roman catholic schools. (lieu, hear.) A - . 1 who shall tell m- what in that case will be the course of education in these Roman catholic schcols when they are entirely set loose from this system of mixed education which h2s taught the Roman catholic to know and to love their pro testant brethren, and inculcated in their minds the precepts of our common Christian religion, and brought them up to tt love one another." (Hear, hear.) If you separate the grant, giving the 100,0001. to the Roman cathehcs, and 20,0001. to the protestant,, I do not think that the effect would be the same as it has been in England, where the grants are given put to the church of England, part to the British and Foreiun Shoal S-ciety, part to tie IVesleyans, and part to the' Roman catholics. I believe the effects In Ireland would be totally different. There, where there has been so much of separation and animosity so 1 -ng existing, but now happily subsiding, we should see that animosity revived and festered by this separate system. (Hear, hear.) And, on the other hand, it would be impossible for you to stop and say that to the laity of the established church and to the clergy of that church should a upirate grant be made, and that to no other persons profession a different reli gion would you give the sane advantage, far then yeti wouli he introdu-iag an thjustioe, and raising again that es il of religious exclusion with regard to this now system, the effects of which we have so much reason 10 deplore in regard to the system which so long has existed. The ad vantage I look to from this system of education is, that bring a matter of recent introduction, founded on grants of parliament, to which no oue has a claim except on the grounds of general justice and policy, you have it in your own hands to say the money 'shall be distri buted in that way which will produce the greatest good on the future fortunes of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) I hope, then, that the house will not consent to make • change in the priii,ivls au • hith tide grant has hisherto been distri buted. I hope they will support this commission of educa tion, comprising as it does men of great eminence, but of different religious views, including men like Arotthishop Whitely and Archbishop Murray. (lieu, hear.) I hope they will not disturb them in their ho:y and beneticent work of educating and of christianising the peo; le of (Cheers.) I have been told of another cump:aiot which has been made, that the clergy of the established church receive no countenance or support or favour from the state, unless they are friends of this system of natiocal education. But In this respect I would beg to observe that the clergy, who are declared to be hcsiile to the system, an not 'eluded from the most valuable tmeefizes or the highest preferment in the church of Ireland in crusequence of their opposition. If the crown had the monopoly of all preferment, there might be some ground for that complaint; but the tact is that the great bulk of the patronage of the chinch is in the hands of the church itself. Fur Instance, in the diocsse of Armagh, the crown has the right of presentation to I livings, and the bishop to 49—(hear)—in the diccese of Ferns the crown p' the right in respect to 1 living, and the bishop to 41; and in the diocese of Cashel the crown present, to 3, and the bishop to 34. (Hear.) Therefore, I say, with every respect for the clergy of the established church in Ireland, who make this complaint, and every re spect for their conscientious opposition to the na tional ',steno, I do not think that their worldl7 prospects are prejudiced and blighted, as they adage, for if the Crown does not prefer them to the living. which it has in its patronage, the bishop, generally speaking, prefers them. (Hear, herr.) Ido not find fault with the bishop for doing so. Id o not find fault with the bishop, who is an enemy conscientiously to the national system of education, for giving his patronage to those who agree with him on an important subject affecting the moral and relig:nue wel fare of the people. (lieu, hear.) But if I do not ti cl fault with the bishop, I du not, on the other hand, think the Crown is to be blamed bee 'use when patronage falls into it. hands it finds a man of ability, of piety, act of learning, who agrees with it on this principle, and }Teri rs him. (Cheers.) On every ground, then, I think, there is no foundation for the claims which have been advanced on this subject. I think the clergymen of the established church of Ireland from their high charac ter and their merits i t every respect, but more especially for their charitable exertious during the late painful years of famine, are deserving of our highest Esteem and regard. (lieu.) lam concerned therefore that on this subject I should differ from their wishes, and were it not that I think shoes wishes are opposed to the general welfare of the people of Ireland, and that we should be making a serious inroad in our system of education, I should be glad to comply with their desire on this subject. But seeing that many schemes and plans in Ireland have idled—that this I. • plan, as celabliabeil by Lord Stanley, which has had good success and prosperity, and wLich pro mises to promote good conduct and obedience to the laws among the people of Ireland—l call upon the house not to consent to abridge its powers by adopting the present mo tion. (Cheers.) Lord C. HAMILTON supported the motion, and con tended that there was no evidecce that the national system had succeeded ; whereas the church schools had eminently prospered. Sir J. GRAHAM, as a colleague of Lard Stanley in 1531, declared his steady adherence to the system than established, and regretted extremely that members of the church of Ire land dad not partake of all the benefits of the system ; why i Because their clergy, with some splendid inceptions, have led the way to an uneompromising opposition to it. Mr. Hamilton had charged the system with being latitudinarian; but at the last annual examination of children by an associa tion in Dublin, the largest proportion of those who gained premiums for their knowledge of the Scripturis were pupils lof the national schools. Then as to oonscientious scruples, he should like to ask whether the system of education in Trinity College itself was of an exclusively protestant cha racter. He admitted that the distribution of reward., honours, and emoluments there was most exclusive; but he denied that the education was in the least degree so. Again, in all the workhouses of Ireland were schools based upon the national system; to these workhouses chaplains wire ap pointed, who without scruple attended the schools ; but then there was a salary attached to the office. The motion ;pre sented an alternative, which suggested an important modifi cation of the system, namely, that the &Tipton's should be read in school hours according to the authorised version. They might as well declare at ones that the national system shall be extinguished. if the proposed change were made, upon the peinciple of justice there must be exclusive grant. to Roman catholic schools, end then the object of uniting Roman catholic., presbyterians, and members of the esta blished church la one harmonious system of education moo be abandoned. Although the national system had not borne all the fruits desired, its results had been suecerful. He believed there was no Roman catholic country in Europe in which, with the consent ratite clergy, an education so Scrip tural, without note or comment, had ever been tolerated as that given in the national 'shoot.; and he warned the house that if this light be extinguished, there was very little hope of the social improvement of Ireland. Mr. NAPIER proteOed against the imputation cast by Sir J. Graham upon the clergy of Ireland, of being in fluenced by mean and mercenary motives, which was un worthy of bis high position. Ile defended the motion, en tering at much length into the details of the national system, r and the mimed modifications of It. Mr. SHIBIL avowed that ha Should mu, of eduestim in Ireland national against a could take any just exceptios. He did not props:ants of Ireland were opposed to the the great mass of the gentry, and soma or *tea , siastice, were &valuable to It. The bad en opportunity of attending the arebr,th , the protestant pupils about them , not take advantage of it? The mu not attending the national rchools t•stante and Roman catholic, ve tee open an equality • this the Prutestara stomach, because it was incompatible gli which tie law accorded to him. Provider . the Church of Ireland abundant ternimal spiritual good; why did they not apply Jrl priate a portion of the church revenues to , tin with the church ? Lord Stanley had tional Board; Sir li. Peel had added to i went had again and again approved it; dial men had concurred in that approval, which' by a royal visit (by accident, of c , tusej visited Trinity College. • rivate tam supported the in:tier, posed by Mr. RZYNOLDS, WhO believed device to guard the out p osts of the Pr Ireland. The house then divided— For the resolution Against it The h .use then went into committee of . Mr. COBDEN objected to their promedi at that hour, al it was imponible that the. details of the votes. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH H was absolutely essential that he shouli account, to defray the expenses which he some of the minor departments. Colonel SIBTHORY deprecated the ft of the Exchequer always asking for troi They should always know the whole required. Atter a fuether objection, oa the part proceedinx with supply at that late heti, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH , he would be satisfied to take half the the items. The follewinff iltinn were then voted on let of March, 1851 : 9,0001. for the defraying of law re government prosecutions. 5,0001. to defray the expense,' of re+ against the laws of coinage. 10,0001. for the expenses of sheriff,' al officers• salaries. 5,0001. to defray the salaries and ex; misaionen of the Ineolvent Debtors 40,0001. for law expenses in Scotland, 30,0001. for law expenses in Ireland. 20,0001. for the expenses of the m, Dublin 7,000!. for the .barges of ingpect , rs or 70,0001. for the expense of Mada tainu and lunatic sAylnms. 100,000 L (or the expenses of maximal! lishments. 50,0001. for the transportation of el .r; 100,000 f. for the maintenance of cony; the colonies.—The house then resumed POPULATION OIL . This bill passed through conamir,r LINEN AND MANUFACTURE- This bill was committed, and th grow and obtained leave to 'it vai RAILWAY Mr. LABOUCHERE said :nat. t Lards, of which he bad charge. 't r. bill which were manifestly at caviar. the house, and therefore he maw d aide, and he should ail for leave t the same subject. LANDLORD AND TENA On the motion fvr the resumption of on the third reading, Mr. CHRISTOPHER moved the di bate. The house divided : For the amendment Against it Mr. CHRISTOPHER then moved the house. Atter a few words from Mr. Pusty, Sir J.Y. DULLER suggested that the bill at , for a morning sitting. Mr. PUSEY was willing to fix Thu riday o'clock. (No, so.) Lord GALWAY said that as Irish membr with to have the hill fur Ireland, and many Lrt, hilts were equally hostile, he would rec:annun member to confine it to Berkshire. (Laughter ) Alia a desultory conversation, the third readm; for 12 o'clock on 'I. hursday next. NLW BRIDGE AT WESTMINSTEL On the motion of Mr. FRZWEN. leave was given in a bill authorising the auction of a temporary Wes.min.tar.—The house adjourned at 20 ounutt - gilt elncr,ig. OUTGOING MAILS The mails ri4 Marseilles. to the hl , •'.• 0,410 n, ledsa , Hong-Hong, &a., will It smile:: of June 24. The luaus for Lisboa, Spain, and mp cus June 27. The swiss for British North Ame!in nd •• States will be made up on the eveciiir o. J lot :- The West India Mails, including Eereiuda, H Passau, tin .drams, New Orissa', act li s. o, br. • 'tree for Madeira. St. Juan•ile-N'.cannies, New and Peru, will be nue., up on the terrain; of J.. the moils for Mmieria,th , .. Ayr, I a, made n;• on the evening of July 1. 1 The mails tor Gibraltar, Malta, liner, the : Eg3 p'. Ceylon, India, and CLa.a.•• Southani • be sa..ze oa the I:Lorain,/ of J u.y R7flll WATIII AT LONLION Trn D•r —Mamma. lIA. 17-• T. sou. r —ALra.r.4,l.., sa LONDOY, SATURDAY, fry ACCOUNTS from Paris depict tie h:„;.. French reaciionis:s at the prospect of Lon sros being ejected from office. The deed somewhat damped by the r'll. cticn of the open rival, and c x'gcct friend, there n an insidious and secret foe. But the kno: tors, who mett nt Madame LIEYEN'S, and got up the whole plot of precipitatinz Lions at Athens into a compulsory aerceni.:::'. taking advantage of this to recall the% Frencl: !Moe—there people are highly del.g'ateci. atm of restoring France to what it was in : ts , ' never have prospered if a statesnan of cap'ci:y liberal tendencies remained at the !dad policy of England. To overturn hint!:;::. object, and they have certainly cone d itha. tune of this, by representing Erg;and as es: from, or meLaced by, all the' powers of Earci taneously. This, they well calculated, wou.;:q JORN BULL, make him think of war and ::- isolation and its anxieties. But, however, easily fo• his lutist! and his tranquiility, Jolty ti, : ther liked to he bullied nor duped. And it he the veriest ox on one of his own pa 5.7.7 , ,. must now begin to perceive that the mteny: his made both to bully and to dupe situ. [tic tiOlt of the Leueli minister, that lie dent wori of convention of London to Athens, aril that communicated to Mr. WYSE, in crier to stop h:! . re gumption of coercion, turns out to be an utte r ta. s e hond. There can he no doubt that it was Fur' peel withheld from Mr. W csr, in cider he might precipitate coercive mca,mes ; the curt was advised by • Baron Ciao- to ) tr o d don, u the "best course under the circumiticays, by this manccavre General L.cini re. and : Legitimists were enabled to make the withdrawal of their Ambassador, which d a. the Russian party in the House of Lords v. e • ' tunity of striking the blow which they have That it was a plot from beginning to end, bas„: a treachery, and consummated in falsehood,e , the noonday, from those letters of Mr. Y 4 '; t i. ' • • NORMANDY, which the daily organs of the co! , : • -• racy" in London carefully and wisely refuse 3 . publish. One of the unwiring but agents of the conspiracy, was the e Treepor.“er: ot.; Times at Atha... The French oubego him the story of Baron Gnus having comma: to Mr. WYSZ his cognisance of the come:::: . ••,. ' London. This was an arrant, thoug h a ..••••• falsehood. When the Tunes correspond':; formed by Mr. GRIFFITH that he had been an meat of communicating falsehood, he cerl t '•„ r ! promised to rectify it in a letter to the 1... .P: r • the TIM*, took good care to suppress the rtc::r.a...,; as it took care to exclude from its columns ; of Mr. WYSE, and, indeed, of every might aid the public in penetrating the plot ini ing through the falsehood and treachery et tai and French and English propsgatord. , King Oruo was My informed of the onv's::l2, of London, and of the likelihood of ltit : concluded. So was Baron Gaos. The en'Y in the dark was Mr. WYSS. And the whoa' manoeuvres of Baron °Kos and the Greek the fortnight previous to the find, was to rn:e•r•.' Mr. IYratt into coercion, in order to 41 ,1 " 1 dreaded Convention of London. Baron tlity's . . ceiving word of it, took care never to ',Mel ' Wrest. Re merely wrote Bien a note.olf!" g ait show his despatch's, bat homed of houul id of 107, st W hi ch 4 ;;T 0 g,„,..,, , : at 41 hve t ';."Wti e national , f the 1 7.'s ie a te nu st 4; )Is, P , u lt • ' f fiati.7 l7 W, 414 ? tos „ t I 'WO W u at i"•• ' Prlen ,t. ,; 444 lith the atc l : 4 ,l " I d r: r ! '" h" 9, iZ t ial •1 ' t : to 7 • t • Ictlools P,n td foand,d o its hiwi s dim - - ch h s i b tu nkt iii . Inkre her , which 1111, d 1 111, 'totette.c• • •••• 112 11; A Suppl 7. ' 44 4 IC; ud ~ .r 11. : ( 41.Y•it • get 'MI. al beta ir• notion or cs..„ ecocry "' • • I a. % um , l% "r Mt% r. If • LiEfiTSEit s n t Oh itc; • IPte , ti Ir,.rC .3 ""( end :•:•..t • f 2 ?•rael cf •. .tats. r , kinicg . - e:c., ex: LL. IRELAND. r mrmm rrprtru il7. • :ILL. a VS; ',Li:. fr;T. • • wrra- par , . f . t .h . • . ,NT :,L the 46,,,net. 1 tdir,urar. 7: : • adl.,..k:r THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JUNE 22, 1850:.