The Express. — London, England, 1862-06-24 00:00:00

IMPERIAL P HOUSE OF LORDEL—Mosimr, Julia 23. inMil lordship rosi Mt fn o'clock. THE NEW ORDER IN CHANCERY. Lewd BBOHOHAIf presented a petitios, signed by up muds of 960 law writen and stationsts—amoapt whom, he a* %spired the name of a member of a most respectable Inn which had been established upwards of 120 yam —com plaining of the recent order issued by his noble and learned !Mead on the woolsack, with the sanction of the Master of the Rona and the other Chancery judges, directing that all affidavits and deposition' to be used in the High Court of should be printed, under the superintendeoce of the Clerk of Records and Writs; and further directing that "the expenses of such printing should be paid out of she lame fend and in like manner as aloe copies el '®davit under the existing practice, viz., the stilton' fee fund. Them petitiotiers, amongst whom he loud the names of several ladies, stated that this order would be the means of ruining their trade, and of depriving many families of their sole means of subsistence. They sided that solicitors were enabled to make precisely the same sharps to their client' as they did at present, although the =pews of obtaining printed copies of affidavits was much lon than of having written office copies. Further, that the skill of law stationer* as writers had been recognised is the yew 1852 by a general order of Lord St. Le 0121111114 when Lord Chancellor. He (Lord Brougham) had thought hke duty to state the case of the petitioners thus fully, whatever view he might entertain of the prayer of the petition, which was, that the house would, as it clearly had a right to do, past a resolution, the effect of which would be immediately to repeal the order of the Lord Claocellor. NIGHT POACHING. The Pert of MALHENNURY rave notice that to-morrow evening (this day) be would mak her Majesty's government whether they bad say objection to produce the cor respondence whkit had taken place between the Home office and the chief constables of counties with reprd to this nbject. ARMY AND NAVY CHAPLAINS. Lord CHRLAIBF'ORD, on behalf of tb. Fan of Hard wick.. gam solace that on Friday the noble ..it would all attention to retains which bad Dew mode by tb. Board of Admiralty with rapid to the pay of navy chaplains. LANDED PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT (LRELAND) Om tho moos by Karl ST. ORRMANS that the house should go into eeinalittee ea this bill, The Marquis et BATH called atleittlou to the provisions al this bill, wake be said he widerutood to be s proposed ttrios of several sets which the house had passed atter mot mature twasiiwation. Earl T. GERMANS explained that by the former tett men of settled estates wen enabled to borrow sums, sot exceeding 5,0001., for the improvement of their estate/. Ilse mamma WI worked perfectly well ; they had led to wry great improvemeets in many parte of the °wintry, and the money advanced bad bees reguWly repaid. The object of this measure was to extend the provisions of the existing sets to those districts of Ireland in which distress prevailed ; sod to empower owners of estates to borrow satins, not ex media( 3,0010 t, in addition to the former, on the same esearity. Attie a few weds from the Earl of Dammam's, The bill peeled through oommittee. OXFORD UNIVERSITY BILL. Mao bill em• reed a third time ma pureed. RIFLE VOLUNTEER GROUNDS ACT (1860) AMENDMENT BILL nil bai greed through committee. =TIRING PtY, he. (BRITISH FORCES INDIA) BILL. This bill maa nod a third time aad pawed. After a few womb from the Earl of ELLILYBOROUGH sad Bari DE GSM THE QUEEN'S PRLSON. The LORD CHANCELLOR laid upon the table a bill, the object of which. he said, was to abolish one of the most emeiant institatiless in the cookery, but one that their lord ships would Mee up without regret—the Queen's prom The Quota's Beach prison, of which the Queen's prison was the representative, originated in very early times—to fact it was probably coeval with the wart from which it took its name. Formerly there were three prisons in London—the Qum's Bench, the Fleet, aid the Marshallese. The Fleet was appropriated to prisoners from the superior court., the Court of Chancery and the House of Commons. The liar abasea was for prisoners from the (kart of the High fiesivrard, the Paha, Court, and the Court of Admiralty. The first fruits of the measure pissed is 1642 for the aboli tion at arrest on scene process was to enable parliament to disposes with the Fleet and the Illarshalsea. The Queen's Beach then became the prison. The existing build ings wen erected about the year 1756, arid they contained seemamodation for 300 pumas. They covered between two and three acres of ground, and the value of the site was estimated at between 200,0001. and 300,0001. ; es that it would be no mean gift to the nation were this property dedicated to some public object, of greater utility. sum of money annually voted ley 'milkweed for the minimises of this prison had lees 3,0001. or 4 0001., sad the whole of that would of MUDS be ultimately saved, although their lordship were well swam that a measure of this kind could not be passed unewoespeeied by some allowances and continuances of pay, which would prevent the whole of the money from helag at ewe available to the publis exchequer. The power of abutting up the Queen's prism was due to the Baakraptep Ad of last year, one object of which wu to abolish imp i. seament for debt except where liabilities had been bandit levely contracted. The result of that mammas might be summarily stated thus. On the let of October, 1561, when the act came into operation, there were an aggregate number of 324 prisoners for debt in the Queen's prison, in Whitacre's-street, and in Honemoo ger Lae. By • return made on Saturday last he found that, excluding fraudulent debtors and debtors remanded by the Insolvent Could, there were not more than six or seven persons in the Queen's prism two in Horsemongerdane. sad 14 or 15 in Whitecross-street. The number would have less even less bad it not been for tbs clause in the act which provided that am-Wad= should not be entitled to their discharge until they bad been two months in gaol. Their lordships would easily see that Whitecrowatrest would contain aecenueoclatima for a nub greater number of primmer' Mud is all human probability world ever be col bated within its walk These:ober in the Queen's prison we greeter than it would have been bad not a practice grown up, he could not tell why, of allowing persons in key of the country prisons to be removed thither by habeas serous. In °dreaded of the spaciousness of the buildings, the facilities far playing at ball sod the other amusetneots that were allowed, the Queen's Beech had always been • favourite pride, and he was afraid its allurements had led ENO to prefer imprisonment to making • discovery and au reader of their property for the benefit of their creditors. Be ooefeeeedthat he bad much pleasure in predating this bill to their lordships as the first fruits of the Badiruptcy Act; and he might add, that when the Insolvent Debtors Court ern finally closed, which he trusted would be within a few days, the number of prisoners would be much di =Wished. In answer to the Earl of NLRB; Tbe LORD OLIANCRLLOR added that at one time he had hoped the site of the prison might have been made available for St. Thomas's Hospital ; bat be was sorry to say that there might possibly be some impediment to the carrying oat of that desirable object. He bad therefore thought it best to *Define his bill to an enactment placing the site at the dis posal of the government. The ball was read a brit time. JURISDICTIONS IN HOMICIDES BILL. Earl DE GRIT moved the second reading of tide bill, which has already panaed the Home of Commons. Its abject a to expedite t►e trial of soldiers charged with homicide. Lord CHELMSFORD expressed hia ooncurrence in the object of the bill. but gad there were some inconsisten. gage which would require amendment when the bill was In committee. In answer to as observatioo from the Earl of DONOI3OI. mom, Farl DE ORM sod RIPON said them was g criminal wort la Dallis which sat owe in two mouths, sad it was ht that thaw would not be sufßcient advantage in tranalerring the prisoners from Ireland to Justify on altera tion of the Jew to amble than to do it. 11;bZIVaititaiTe44•:.ec;oi cum. DLICHARGED PRISONERS AID ROOMY. This bill was read a mooed time. PUBLIO WORKS AND HARBOURS ACT AMEND- MENT BILL. Mr Lill pared throt7gl7C;mMittes. 11NIVERSITIES SOOTLAND ACT AMENDMENT BILL This bill was read a third tiat• sad papaya. LEASES. lie., BY INCUMBENTS RESTRICTION ACT AMENDMENT BILL. This bill wad through ousamittsa. DUCHY OF CORNWALL LANDS (COMPLETION OF ARRANGEMENTS) BILL. This bill was road a third time aad plumed. Tha r kedships then adjourned at tan minutes past six nig& HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MostrAy, Juitz 23. Th e arum took tit* chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS, The Ceylon Railway Campy Bill, sad the Claarow rr/ Tamsbig Bard Bill VON reed a third Urns and INCOME TAX. Mr. DOULTON said the Chancellor ot the Exchequer whether Nes Commimionen of Lemma Tax had authority, is mem at appeal based upon • three years' statement of pelts, to iEsulies the appeal withoat investigating suck alatrateat ; sad, whether, in tame moat of such dismissal ohs meassmarit beia. under 1501. per annum), the appal ant had say remedy by application M the Commieshmers of la bad Romans, the Treasury, or other person or body. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER saidthat tM whim wars homed to maks Mame to this district coot miminieses at Imams tax of Rohr profits up= • fair avatar of Rave yams. The district mismaissiosers wan armed with fa powers to *Moat Matsumoto from t h e parties SAW is support sr in reirmatio• at their Maras. It wan THE EXPRESS; the intestio• el parliament evidently to place in the hands 1 our iamb. Sir G. Settoritie has said that the ability of of the district commissionen power to deal with the reform defence has been increased in the proportion of tea to one. and with the sammareete, and in strictest.* be did not think We have Ina and Math and are better able than other there was any matronly in the government to retry the potato to make use of those advanteges which Wore has oases. It was undoubtedly the duty of the district corn- pea us. (Hear.) I meet my that I agree with her who miasitmersl duty which he believed was generally, and he look epos the ides of inmates en absolute dahlia—(hmar, thought he might say universally, performed—to investigate heer)—ad that as attempted invasion easy he met by the all these ems. It sometimes heppesed that thembunt• proper arm of this country—the nistry--d b should ever were made to the executive governmest with respect to , take Mos. (Hear, hear.) But the ecalasey of our plug asseesnients, and with respect to the judgments of the atm. , eacity hie already brought our taxatioa to upwards of matinees, and it sot unfrequestly bappened that the re- meaty millions. If we are to be continually interfering venue commissioners, if they found that the district oom- if we are to be ono day drawing reform billa for Sardinia, missioners bad gone wrong, directed an Aker to submit another day interfering with America, sad then pointing the cm again to them ; sad that mime was found most the finger of suspicios at France, the natural consequeum likely to bring the matter to a Mistake, conclusion. , will a that we must have the income tax saddled on us for There was, in addition, an appeal to the Treasury, or more ever, and not only that but we must revive the paper duties generally to himself, as Chancellor of the Exchequer. It and other taxes. I therefore protest against the policy of woe not, however, the custom of the executive government the government. (Hear, hear.) What is th e opinion of to retry these caeca. There was no difference us point of that policy by two members of the present cabinet! One ' practice between the course to be taken in cams of larger gentleman, who is of course entitled to respect an • and smaller amounts of income tax, but in point of fact the member of the cabinet, observed that, greatly as appals generally came from parties who paid on incomes of he respected the courage and patriotism of the under 150/. • year. I noble loth, he thought his policy was marked and thatecterised by a spirit d interferises. and that he THE SEATS IN THE KENSINGTON GARDEN& was l ay i ng t h e f oun d at i on a a system still to the i nto . Mr. W. EWART asked the First Ootemindoner ci rests of freedom and destructive of the peas of the world. Public Works whether the public were to be accommodated (Hear, hear.) These are the sentiments upraised by the by the restoration of the old, and by a greeter present Chancellor of the Exchequer on the foreign policy number of new seats in Hyde.park and Reusing- of the noble lord. (Hear, hear.) But there is smother ton-gardens, topecidly round the larger trees therein. !probably entitled to man might. It is the opinion Mr. COWPER said it was th e practice of the department I opinion,mar of the cabinet, and am ma entitled to respect. to restore the seats retorted to by the hon. member and to ,(A laugh.) The gentleman said that when the able lord =tide new ones as the convenienced the public required ' was in any trouble be made no difficulty in accepting the This year he believed it ale intended to place 25 votes of the conservatives &PAM the Poor liberal party ;he new seats in the pork. &Laded to. Meer.) also spoke of the mischievous activity of the able lord, who interfered at all times and in all parts of the world ,• IRISH BILLS. and he fu rt her said that he thought the name of In reply to Mr. ileum; Palmenton was far from being a tower et Be R. PEEL said that on Friday morning he pro- Wire said tat ? Why the President of the =II Posed to Proceed with the Poor - law Bill, and, ham; Trade. (" Hear, h e r," and • laugh.) I may ask how hes rot through that, to take no the County Surveyors Bill and ta Emperor of the French justifith the treatment he has the Weights sad Messum WI: reeivd at the hoods of the noble lord ? When this country Mr. GREGORY said the riot hoe. gentleman the was paralysed by the terrible Indian mutiny, the Emperor member for the 17nivetsity of Dublin, whether it was in- mot only gave us the ems sympathy whisk the able lord tended to pealed with the Marriages (Ireland) Bill during seam f; i vez o t t o Itely this —words--but Ns offered • pomp throups the pretest . for the troops of country. (Hear, hear.) Armin, Mr. WHTTESIDE said he had not bad an opportunity with regard to the affair of the Teat, Frames resiontheated of asking his bars. and learned friend the meets for Belfast with the America government, sad was estirely es our (Sir Hugh Cairns whet his int:intim were on the subject, side--(bear, hear)—ead farther, when it was determined to but he that the state of patine MMea would send our troops to Canada, the Emperor was the man who reader it to go further with the bill at • 1. furnished the worm clothing from the demob of Me lf CH inquired whether the Judgment m own country ( bear)--end yet we are told eoutinally in lion Bill would be prosseded with. irritating berme to beware of Francs. These are neither Mr. WHITESIDE -It is before • select committee. t h e tradition, of the liberal party nor of that In reeAy to Mr. VANCIa whig party which was once great sad flourish*. In • Sir 8.. PEEL maid it was his intention to apply for • letter to Mr. Fox, Lord Grey repudiated the nal of such morning sitting next week to premed with the Fairs and foolish expressions, which he said served no purpose but Markets (Ireland) Bill. that of irritatioa and distrust. (Hear, bear.) The liberal FORTIFICATIONS AND WORKS. piny bee somewhat fallen away and declined since that The house baying gone into committe e , day. What has become of the womb, " path re trench- Sir„..,_ mut, sad reform," enunciated by Loth Grey ? Pesos has G' LEWIS moved a resalat"k " Thek "welds v -- became • sort of armed truce with an expeditors el war, theme a further sum for defra the "g ems " et retrench 1 ha, bloom the 'abbot of abaset the construction of ma fa r the defence of the of Intim an m r reform is now treated as en a ldithat and dia. royal de:loads and artenab, and of the ports ferresable eseilledolll, and net adleved to come late th e Dover and Portland , and for the creation of • house. ("Hew, bear," sad telef&. bath is the seas of central arsenal, a som not exceeding 1,200,0001. be charged „._ m ____, pat ~ ,_ tha t tbabausa upon the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom, and r" •"'""s__, • t"`"__.' hear.) WM, abstract resolutions. or = are that the Oonabsiosers of her Majesty's Treasury be '''' '''' ?"'"" . authorised and empowered to raise the rid am be th take P .m hem the P owell who w ill it, annuities, f or a Mesa aot srossdias 3 9 ; and that retheschamat from whatever tide of is the ham it will sem i iiiiru i ttar s h a ll b s =ad upon sad be payable out of the and reform whoa they one get it. ("Hear, bear,' and sa i d Comid i datad • a 1 ..... bw .......... ia ru „_ langliter.) In say event, I move so abstract resolution— pod o f l ib, mkt *, b y am ,"7 — i i ts upna — • 7 1 7 rus k (hear, hear)—and. sir, I p at this moieties with some eft , ideas in your hods. (Haar, hear.) th P4 a liey aaturr et of d t wiraasa; medve " I * w had. whith he abwred.wele not <el7 laaral Y trds ..; Sir G.C. LEWIS said that he had already stated as briefly aste possible the principal topics beating on the question of police. t Th ara the "awe?. other wevid s a l uaista e g e t er ithe to b s ee boru mtemel s la fortification ; but he thought his hon. friend had hardly mind, with reference to prwr i s i ons. for the dawns °cast earthed any great forbearance in the remarks he had ad o:al:tisk wou ld_ „plait, the minus , of our ad i ttary dressed to the awe , for, having prepared himself at great • and be had wow to the saushisisa that it bat hon the subject of the Spitbead foeL, he had thought would be impossible to maintain the gametal efficiency al the It sec...BM although the `Meet" with draw° for the War Deportment without maintaining the arirtroturdi _ present from thew practical mosideratiem, to speak the ture? ,,, ow i airmis i ts a k i sacy w i thoutiastaasedsr • ura; speech which he had so carefu ll y preperet—(heer, heart — efficiency being only another word for increase d ed to read numerous extraot• tram evidence wholly iced.. vat to the question before the committee. He would He then compared the military expediters in 1 with that of the meat year, the amount of the former babe all attention to the practical effect of the resoletices of the - h nth= • th of its being adopted by the 12,677,000 e, and that of the lather 14,573,000 i., MOM to cm ' g e th, la ° even s a reduction fir stores and volunteers, which make the real committee. There were two cores, either o f .L.,..h.i°h they e excem for the present year 1,255,0001„ whith, although migtht:rtdrera:a• d op y eonaktara One wa c t aaa tha that o t o T, --- 7 , met& large,wee ime them " valMmed The number of men ally a determined two years ago to furnish tire - a — dd l iffithal "led in 1818450 (yeah and hie) wee 113,974, and the 4WD." s um demanded by the government for the fortilleatiens, her in the prima year 124,795, an increase of 10,821. Be , then sthtth the number of ride which lid been macho - they should matte " the "vim ► t in Vvem The lure d , sad the number in store at haw s or abroad , sad that 0 ..,.. ther . 00nr ,.. r . w_r_thi._— ..... thl .... houij mm .„ 13 ..... t may, .."... e iv wr thuth mie of Armstrong guns of all aims, and after those preliminary """'"":."' ha ' at '" a - 0 111 — ri ' d y r a i ;',7 h ;Er ' observations proceeded to explain the nature and he r, extensive .. . . ~ landi ng estimated oast of the premised &Mileages.. If the arks • believe there le no deegeve• an enemy in country, and that • Beet is quite sufficient for the defer*. were completed epos the largest plan, the total cost, be ' med, would h a 6.700,0001.; but, with rasped to the Spithead ot our shorts ; and therefore we repudiate alto ther the plan embodied in the act of two fares, th ose works had been suspended, and the gemmed g e d ref a furthar maw for it. Ind thought it the most prudent cam in present mecum • y e•r e age" and a y . continuance and the completion of that pith, and slam sot to renew them in the present year, bet to pose tab decision until the subject had received odd= we will restoattinis it to h thie shape th in hun which thight tay bt w def ere tsda prior light. They would therefore not resume the practical con- ° .'I and . • Leer o f t me I) (Hear, hem Ben adoration of the question till next June, when they would by logical h' d musis nwhichre6n reaso n i n g. lt would L the there was •t u course, • tho uf t , communicate their decision to the house, and a ff ord it au meet unreasonable and the most absurd which it wee possible opportunity of expressers an opinion upon the subject. In conclusion, he expressed • hope that the committee would for_the wit of man to conceive, and that wea soy, _" W_ • not alter the drake of last year. wi ll not come to any decision now—we will stop au the Mr. BRIGHT withal to ask • question. He had not works at present in progress, leave them an finished, and understood what the right hon. gentleman said with regerd take no means to bring the matter to • practical decision,". TM& was a °muse scarcely !erosible for any man of me to the central arsenal, but there were words referring to it in the resolution. Was be to understand th at those words were jud gmen t a dopt , - y then:solution of his on. friend, who said it was not yet to be streak out ? This question of the central arsenal had never been thoroughly daussed by the house, and so expedient to proceed with the construction of the P ro P med forts at the shoal at Soithead, or with the additional determination had been ma to apes it. He presumed the defames at Portsmouth, kiyowath; ad Dov er . They were words right hoe. gentleman would have so objection to strike the the great naval arsenals, and the object of the proposed de words out of the resolution. If the right hoo. gentleman,._ _to .... had dose with the Pendant forth the same that he had a '" ; ',7 ;ittad "" ait rl ve thar — ' =•.) w Th here aboa _ mtv ne re vy tt i s l au ee built had dose with th e Spitheed forts the ham probably would have raid that the nary . was ' our yam mama of - &g eom. b u t had not mesh trouble in the matter. (Hem-) where would that defence bs if we allowed our naval Sir G. 0. LEWIB —The title of the bill is to continue the anou . to b e seised by the enemy ? (H., b a se,) All that act ; and in the title of the act the words " neutral meal " need be mid DOW wu that the government plan had been occurred ; but when we come to the vote, I do not profuse well moldered two yeas ago by competent engineers, and to take any money tot the central armed. that it had received the sanction of the highest authorities. Mr. BRIGHT—Then there is nothing to be done in the (Hear, hear.) His noble friend bad quoted opinions con matter this year? demnatory of each one of the forts he objected to, but Sir G. O. LEWlS—Nothing. (Hear, hear.) if opiuions of that sort were to be held decisive of such • Mr. OSBORNE moved, as an amendment to the resold• question, it was utterly impossible that any plan should Lion, to leave out the words sitar " That," is order to add be carried into effect. "considering the changes and improvements now in pro- Sir F. SMITH mid as the right hon. baronet had told peen affecting the science of attack and defence, it is not at them that the works at the forte at Spiked were not to be present expedient to proceed with the construction of the continued, it would be an useless waste of the time of the proposed forts on the shoals at Spithead, or the additional committee to enter tato any dispersion with regard to them defences at Portsmouth. Plymouth, and Dover reoem- at present . He was glad to hear the announcement, and he mended by the commiasioneth appointed to cm:eider the believed the worth would ultimately be given up for ewer. defences of the United Kingdom ; nod that, in ay general The outlay upon them would be an truism and wsstecul system of national defence, the navy aboufd he expenditure of public money, bemuse the report teemed regarded as the arm on which the country must with evidence showing that they could not stop a ship mainly depend." The hon. member expressed s at the pawing by at night. Vende r ' gives by Se O Am/is of the word " . ," Mr. H. A. BRUCE said he had bees many years of that it meant • draught upon the Treasury ; this was not, opinion that it was esetesary to take stops for he mid, his translation of the word. He thought this was the protection of our peat naval arsenals ; and a proper time to consider the whole plan of these national he still retained (that belief, notwithrtmading that defences, which had, in an evil hour, been brought before • great deal of the feeling which prevailed some time the house. The sum originally estimated for those de- since on the subject of lemma was foolish and unfounded. fume was 11,600,0001, and the home had bees told by The original votesforthe tortifications were carried by *Tee the first minister, in • hobgoblin speech, that money for wheloung majorities, and it appeared to be naworthy of the time. defences mist be voted at once ; that they were house tote now vacillating when it was asked to undo all neoestary for the immediate safety of the country ; and the: bad been done, and to render the large outlay already he bad suggested 9,000,0001., while the then Efecretary incurred undue for War (Lod Herbert) asked for oely 5,000,000). Mr. DIOBY SEYMOUR wished to ask the right hoe. The home rotated ; but it had voted 2 , 000,0001 . gentleman what was the amount of expense saved to the and it was now naked for 1,200,0001. more. After a severely country by the withdrawal of the scheme respecting the critical examination of the results of the experiment. at Spithead forte. Shosbneyness, and of the conclusions drawn by the defence Sr G. C. LEWIS, in reply to the question , which hsA commissioners and the government, sod urging the super. been put to him, said, first, that the plan of the government fluitrof forts for the protection of dockyards, since ship had not been altered since he had given notice of his re•o• would never attack forte, but would shell the yards at • lotion ; and secondly, Wit the amount which had been dames, he called attention to the position of the country taken for each harbour, including Portamouth, would be as to naval artillery, Warring that we had no nerd gun for found in • schedule to lie sot ; and the sum taken for the those quarters at the peewit moment but the old 68-pounder. Spithead forte was included io that list. He examined the evidence taken by the commissioners Mr. VIVIAN said his opinion was adverse to that view, on the subject of the Armstrong guns, including that which sues persons considered to be economy, but which he of Sir W. Armstrong himself, who confessed that he thought penny wise and pound foolish. Hs thought his halt bad so experiesce of their effect beyond 300 yards. hon. friend the member for Liaised had been guilty of as He insisted that the house had yet no approximate estimate omission in he entertaining speech—namely, that although of the Mai of the forts, which would come to something he found great fault with the government scheme, be pro like 20,000,0001., and asked whether it would melte such posed no plan of his own instead. (Hear.) If he bad thins a profligate expenditure of money. Then, by the original down with a wellmatured seam the bones could have plan, the forte were to be of petite ; now they me So be compared his proposition with that of the goverment of iron. As to the land defences, under the new condition. (Hear, bear.) It appeared to him that there was now of war, while we had the command of the Channel, the pother power in the hands of any biotite power of 000cen landing of • military force upon our shores was an impose- mating • fleet upon our chores than had ever existed bility, and to garrison there forts would require 95,000 men. hitherto. If the question were one as between ships and He alleged sposific objections to some of the fortifications, farts, it was clear that ships wore out, and forts did not, particularly to those at Dover, contending that, so far from therefore there was no question as to the eoosomy of forts. those forts being national defence., they would be national (Ham hear.) On these grounds he regretted that her robberies of the public purse. The hon. gentleman oar. Majesty's government bad given way on the question of the bead : I find that the number of Armstrong guns Spithead forts. contemplated by the commissioners for Spithead 1.915, while Sr S. NORTHCOTE said—Had the Spithead forts the total number required for the dockyards will be noesli and the central meal been persisted io, he should than3,72l. The costof these guns must be enormous—in fat have been prepared to vote with the liro member we do not know what the estimate may amount to. (Hear, for Liskeard , but as those portions of the scheme were do hoer.) We are told that the government are acting in eluded, it bemuse a question what ought to be done with this matter under the advice el • military commission, but the wataintler. The right boa. gentleman said that the I think the house should not rest implicitly upon the de- gummiest bad entered into contracts to the amount of eision of military authorities. (Hear, leer.) The late Sir : 3,300,0001. on account of those works, oat of Robert Peel said, in 1850, that if the amity would have' which they had been already empowered to raw all its fortifications Or every part of the world kept in • ' 2,000,0001., which, with the 1,200,0001. sow, state of perfect repair no amount ef annual revenue would i was almost the entire amount of those contract,. If the suffice, ad that if they adopted the opinions of military details of those contracts were before them they might men, naturally anxious for the security of every available , possibly thinkbt right to votethemotisy,but at present they point, they would overwhelm the country with taxes in a , wenasked tovote it in sad without security that time of peace. (Her, hear.) At this moment they are ,it would be devoted to • cow • of the works already proposing to overwhelm the country with texas in a time of , contracted for, or that the government might not enter peace. (Cries of "No.") I may answer iota words of • living, into other contracts involving the country in farther ex. member of the late Sr R. Peel's pithiest, who said it we. . pease, which would have to be provided for hermits:. melees to blink the quake, that throughout the country , That was not the principle upon which the Haw of Com et large, end within the precincts of the Home of Com- , moss was accustomed to vote the public money, and he mom, the support of public economy had been relaxed,' might add that his vote would depend upon the explanations that charges had been entered into after the slightest ax-' he might receive as to the extent of expenditure in which ammatios, and that unless • camp took place the' they me to be involved, and the 1 1 = 1 to booms of the matey _would be trot into • stated , which the money was to he applied. 1 . be &biota tembision. Thee wag the *Ma of the present should require from the government • Pin* Chancellor of the Exchequer in 1859—(Item, hur)—sad I : that the money should not be expended upon say now sow ask whether we are biker off in 18831 No. If . works, but that they would oonie to parliament, and, laying we go on from day to day tab' these mannous sums of , full particulars before it, obtain its moot before any new may for fortilkations, I may my Ia the language of the : contuses for work" were entered iota Was the govern- Cbeeceller of the Exchequer, '• Yea will iambi the fame meat brought forward a scheme for faculties expediters of this country is inextricable Meillalle Hoar, bear, and for new works, or any ether object,, mid proposed additional laughter.) Ia the third report, the say that thus to meet it. the tom bad sense sem* thee at sil the navy Is the en s on w hi c h th e mostry iota mainly rely event. they believed that expeditors to be meneenny. Bat kw be aims. Well, the corned of the Chanel is our here there Wallee et* asperity —there ma per thideses that real menrity—(terr, hear)—and we are nd to mum that ministers eresidend this pia of motional defame absobately our navel impreinsey bee been lest. I math that the wwwmwy ;• on the contrary, the alters/tom they had them eless.. whisk tea taken pies in naval Welke is greatly is seem iamb in tbe plan daub mist Ineemblksward, two TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 24, 1862. years ago, showed that they had not very attentively eau sidered the subject when they asked the house to enter upon such an outlay. He believed that, had gemen t:nen, to take the responsibility of coming down with an ad dition of Id. or lid. in the pound to the income tax to meet this Marge, they would not have it. (Hear, hear.) He did not mean to sty the" night sot in that use have thought some expenditure in the way of defence advisable, bet they would have slaked for no more than in their opinion was absolutely necemeary. There were one or two general principles raised in the report upon which it would be well that they had clear views. With regard to the Spithead feria, he should like to know why, while that part of the scheme was postponed, other parts which stood upon the same footing were to be proceeded with ; as, for instance, the defences at Plymouth? There were some principles in references to the defemeee of the country which were not beyond' the oonsideistion of those who had not the advantage of probseneal experience. The argument was that we should have to deal, not with a naval force superior to our own and capable of sweeping the Channel, but with one inferior to oun (and yet somehow contriving to slip paid our fleets. It was argued that suck a force, being composed of iron-plated ships, might come near enough to destroy the great nurseries of our navy, and yet not near enough for our forte to contend someadully with them. Now, if that was true of Spithead it wee equally true of Plymouth, end if they stopped the works at one why were the works to go as at the other ? He suspected that the government did not yet [eel certain wharethe truth lay, mid that the only reason they had for continuing the forts at Plymouth was that they th ought they could throw the burden upon posterity in the shape of a loan. He was morn to see the luny which was springing up in regard to financial matters. They were too ready to postpone the payment of debts, end they were growing callous with regard to deficits- Bet there was one thing that the home had not come to yet, and that he hoped they would Dever reach—a willingness to incur any ex tare pro vided they could throw it off themselves. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BENTINCK agreed with Sir S. Northoote that if the forte at Panama:lth were to be universally condemned, then could be so pound for proceeding with those at Plymouth Sound. Sir MORTON PETO admitted with some chagrin that the coarse which the government had adopted had deprived the speech which be intended to wake of ite most 'shoot points. The hoe. baronet criticised at some length the different reports of the Dehisce Oessmissioners, and recom mended the t to retries their steps, and take the best advice could Minn before inaistiog upon so enor mous an ex tore upon speculative forti fi cations. The dela was continued by Ku John Walsh, Mr. Mon sell, mad Lord Clarence Paget. Lord PALMERSTON-8k I think I may infer from what hes been rasing that the house would wish to come to • decision this evening on the question before as, and I think so the more become this is only the first slap 01 the proceedings. (Hear, bear.) It is rosily and subliminally asking for lease to bring in • bill which, when brought in, will go through insert& loges, sad hon. mambas will have an opportunity both on the monad read ing and in committal* to discuss any part of the arrangement to which they may wish to direct their attention. In the lint place I would make some remark apes what fell from the boa baronet the member for Stamford, who was very eloquent in the defence of posterity. He objected to our plan because it throws, as he said, upon posterity a burden which we ought to take upon ourselves. Aa answer might be given to him minim . to the one that was green in the time of Mr. Pitt to somebody who was ado gomg.a plan for • sinking fund, on the grated that it wee relieving postern) from the Widest of tho day. It was said " Why shou t we do so meek for posterity—what hes posterity ewer done for es?" (Laughter.) I was somewhat surprised at the objection of the right boa baronet, bemuse it was founded on • deliberately adopted financial win ciple. He says it is not right or befitting that service* of this kind should he provided for by loan—that they are matters which ought to be the subject of an annual estimate, and of detailed discussion in Committee of Sup ply, and he rather wishes the committee to retrace their steps, and to adopt his view. But what happened two years ago, when this question was first impend to the house? When I had the honour of giving the reasons why I recommended that this great expense—for great I believe it to be—should be defrayed by a loan sad not form part of the annual burdens of the year, the honour able baronet, if my memory does not deceive toe, adopted the view of her Majeny's government and voted for the loan, although now be finds on resection tint it conflict' with what he considers to be the true principle of flume. The hon. baronet remembers, no doubt, the examples mentioned by my hon. friend the member for Lis keard, of changes of opinion in thin hoot—changes which he so ably defended and so admirably illustrated. (laugh ter.) He charged right hon. friends of . mine with haring on former occasions differed with me in minion, and withbe re inj agreed with me now. My hon. Mead Mead as himself once with me in opinion, but now he unfortunately does not. (Laughter.) His examples as *palmy for the hoe. mem ber for Stamford, but nevertheless the house is not bound to follow him in admiration of his opinions. The house having suctioned the opinion of thervernmeet that the cost of the fortifications should be provided for by loan, the house I think will not retrace its steps this even ing. Now, the reason why we proposed a loan as the proper course was this, that thou fortifications were prun nent workemade upon the freehold, that they're like perma nent improvements made upon • man's estate, for which be is justified in charging thou who 001 IN after him. We thought that as they were permanent works we would throw the burden over a period of thirty yeah, in the shape of terminable annuities ; and I trod the hon. baronet him self may see the conclusion of the annuities, the burden of which he complains will be thrown upon posterity. (" Hear, bear, " and laughter.) Thee, I am asked by the honourable member for Norfolk if it is our intention to take up his resolution and to provide out of the loan for the floating defences. My reply to that is that se the floating detences are temporary, and could only lase for • certain limited period, we thought that these floating defences would be better provided for by an annual vote in the estimates of the year. Sion the period of that resolution I have communicated with my noble friend at the head of the Admiralty, and asked him if it was desirable or to take credit in the loan for those floating defences oh' he was about to provide. He said no, and that he would be able out of the annual vote of parliament to provide for the floating detainee. Therefore the loan will be confined to the purpose for which it was originally destined. Now, some find fault with our plan because an opinion is exprinsed by competent officers adverse to that plan. But my right hon. fneod the mem ber for Limerick object; on a different ground, for be finds fault with the recommendation of the comm i ssioners be- cause they were unanimous. It is difficult to please gentle men of such opposite views. (Laughter.) But I must say I do not find fault with the report of the commissioner' because it is an unanimous. report. My right hon. friend stated truly that there is no question of scienae in any de partment in which you will not find a number of persons apparently just as good judges on the subject coming to • diametrically opposite opinion. Take questions of legal improvement, of medical science, of mechanics, of military or naval tactics, of attack and defence, will you find any proposition No plain and demonstrable that you will not have very able persons on the one side and very able per sons on the other! All the government can do is to take the opinion of those men whom they think competent to judge of the matter, and if they concur in the views of those persons to propose and recommend the plan on their rapossibility to parliament. (Hear, hear.) That is what we did ; that is what we are doing ; and we see no reason to depart from our opinion, notwithstanding the different criticisms ceased, I admit by officers of ability and by man of experience in this house, upon the plan we propose. But we are firmly persuaded that the system we recommended two years ago and recommend now is one essentially con ' sistent with the best interests of the country. The resolution of my honourable friend almost emptier itself, because he says in the beginning of it—l do cot quote the words, bat I give the meaniag—that we aught to be guided by the which is made annually in the science of attack and roes ; of 0061.0 my boa. frigid does not mean in strategy, but in the improvements of arms, ha, and he also an that the navy is the mein arm an which this country ought to rely for protection. I quite agree with him in both these propcsitions, and the wares we propos. is quite coosistent with the carrying of these two propositions into effect. Many gentlemen imagine that the fortifications we are constructing are constructed on the old principle, without reference to the great improve ment" made of late years in the power of ordnance. That is an entire mistake. It is exactly the reverse of the fact. These fortificatioes, cc the contrary, have been constructed in consequence of the great improiements in artillery and the pester range which cannon shot was capable of taking. Thes the whole foundation of our manure has been that the navy is the great arm of defame. because the whole of the fortifications have for their *eoliths protection of our naval arsenals and establishments. The fortificatioes at Pembroke, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Dover—in spite of what has been and—fltheenter, end the Medway are 41:prosily Weeded for the prolleotio• of these arsenals and docks, without which yea could have so navy at all. (Elear,lear.) You might as well hope to have • good dinner without • kitchen se • good navy without arsenals and dockyards. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) I say then we are perfectly justified in recommending to parliament theee measures of defence which men of military end navel science, men of peat eminence and integrity, report to be Deoessary for the purpose t o: ac ting your dock yards is a state of security whist • fkr, the hoe. member for Finsbury (bar M. Polo) has told us of the friendly disposition of the Emperor ef the French. The hoe. member cannot feel this more streagly thee I feel it myself, and berMajesty's government fesA anal am mire every man in the country feels rt. (Mom) The boa. member stated that the Emperor of the French—l canape altogether go atom with him In this—has, by the abolition of the Faispori lidos), given • guarantee of friesdeltiA lim between the two nations. I think that that is massif • small matter ; but, sir, the Emperor of the Fruit* bee much mon im portant matters shown a most friendl sad cordial feeling towards Ragland . (Hear, bear.) It Is qaite true that la the lodise mutiny he offend as every facility for sending oar troops across France, if we bad chosen to avail ourselves of that route. It is true that in oar last dispute with Ame rica he voluatteered of hie own accord— without asking us to express as opisioa—an explanation of the view of ma ritime law in Fresco, which lied • great and powerful effect apes the decision of the A 1611631111 gov Tamest. He might have withheld ; he might have toted dislike ; he might bate atiPlammi double ; he might have kept @deem. Raid so such thing. Is the most poems and frank way he at owe deekteW what the French notice of maritime law wore, and that was in Swear of na and avian the IJaitad [(tabs, (Cheers.) It is impossible to say too much of the friendly disposition he has shows us upon ell occsaione, and I nu bound to my that, eotwithetandiag the &tees implied on • former occasion by the hon. member for Birmingham. no government can be on • more cordial and friendly footing Wan the government et her Majesty and the Emperor of the French. (Hear, hear.) But again I may that is act • ground upon what • nation ought - to repose on a quedion of such vital interest aa the means of defending itself. We have had an example in America, It is not above • year and • half ago that the whole population of Amon were is • burst of eetbrisiasm in favour of England and the Royal family, on the occasion of the visit of the Prince of Wales. Amy man would say, " Here is • pledge of peace and concord between the two coun tries." A few months afterwards there broke out that unhappy war which now rape in the United States. The North Americans toned fault with us far not taking part with them, and on the occasion which nearly brought esinto hostile Contact there wax • bunt of teeing of a very different character throughout the United States, win*, if the government had not been much more prudent end friendly than the tone and temper . of the public, might have involved the two countries immediately is • most serious confine. England and France have, in former times, unfortunately found themselves io collision upon questions of deep national interest on both Miles. What has happened may hawse spin, and it would be folly on the part of either France or England to neglect those means of defence agaiset attack by the other which might unfor tunately be brought into operation. (Hear, hear.) Well, sir, my Doe. friend the member for Finsbury has ) ✓id, why cannot the government of her Majesty come to an understanding with the government of France to limit the relative amounts of the navies of the two countries. Why, sir, that is net • position in which on *pantry can act towards another. (Hear, beer.) h "at sountrim had so navies, they could not so ant. But we are not the only naval powers of the world. Than are ether power in Europe creating Ranee ea testae they can, sad I may, sir, that this is • proposition which, though it sounds plausible when enunciated by my hoe. friend the member for Finsbury, cannot stand. We have to consider that the navy of this orentry is, se my hon. hind the member for Liskeard stated, the neliewel and earentiel arm at air defense. (Hear, beset) Its ban a Davy we meet lave deehreds. As to 111 ef giving up Portsmouth and ping else wilaiil knew - • where—hut removing here thisentablithenft l = Is the work d 14118, and when isinadelie SUM tree been establislumate el all kinds, it is rkfirskaa. 7el agll mamsaAd* Pre up that place became time bash depth of *stir iamb for the Warrior—thompli it her hacreased sal will be haisesee& It Is said the water is not deep monk ea the ells to admit= el the Winker/elk but all times Nip item be 'at a very small Parbauswatit_ emir _reesemmair daliem—thwe in is the weirdite is • tufty for our ensreentile lan ge= d us is tsl a dems the Cliamael , sad no urn is hie mama tint dedgerd, ems if we had not began to defend it. to seek eissedisre for assn ser establishment (Roar, Mar.) Well, sir, te naval warfare it is quite evident that steam will be the pent beirammet of propulsion in all Alps, whether nest or net, whether of wood or boa, sad whether wood coated with 'roe or iron coated with wood. (Hear, hear.) Well it is said that In future blockades will be essy. But deem power has made them more difficult Min Oda the blockaded force may get out of port at ssoyey timei without tried or favourable weather, and the b anedron must come in to rspleakb with coals in take to beep in a fit state for action. (Hear, beer.) But at Porte lssd sad Dover ships are able to c oal without the aid of beton ; that operation is generally very dilliesh, cad muses delay, but at both that plates ships can run along side and coal without any danger. It is said Dover mann be fortified sufficiently against 'heck, so as to preen t any force sad esta blish ing itself there in a manner which would eit difficult to dislodge it. (Hen, hoar.) But I will not go into all th ese details. I will simply sty that I hope that this house, forth' sated its own character, will not go hack tonight from its deekke of two yeses ago, which wee attired at by a large majority, the ih prirple of this mann bang the sanie ho as hm the T os e se du t beam iLey~myestisded that has . discharged himself of • spool whit he hat made with point, ability, and showing greet research, will mean for a future amain any further oh jesting which he might here to the &oils of the amenre, sad fact (( give Oa committee the trouble of dividing to. complained el the incoasistmad vacillation of the government upon this pad What bed been its angle? A paper had pen laid before the house in whisk the oast was 'Amsted at 11..500,0001. Lard Palmerston had stated it at 9,030,0001. ; the this Barstary for War redsold it to 15,0C3,C301., sad the escregary dated it at 6,600,0C31. Yet M ilas Palmerdon had talked of the ineonddeney =vacillation of the hone. Mr. Disraeli do Fir S. Nordin* who had, in his opinion, fairly data the objection to the mode in which this gentian had been put before the house, which would thereby lase Its control over the money to be expended upon the fortifications. In twitting Sir Stafford with • change of opi nion upon this subject Lord Palmentoe, he observed, bad forgotten hie own change of opinion, especially with relation to France. The noble lord to-night, in latiguage of great propriety, and, as I believe, of greet truth, bay described the relations which exist, and should exist, between England and France ;but we all remember that is 18W he came down to the house, saying that the truth could no longer be concealed, and led us to believe that the oountry was in imminent end immediate danger ; he told us that he did not know when the cloud would burst over us—that it wee Frame we had to fear—(oppo sition cheers) —and what was France to do—this civi lised ally, whom it sow suite the noble lord to remember took no advantage of the Indian mutiny, and to whom we are indebted for such courted*, la the Trent affair and other matters in dispute with America ? (Man cheers from the seen quarter.) Other honourable members remembered these things, and did rice to the French Emperor and the French nation. t whet two years ago were we led by the noble lord to expect from our neighbours the French ? We were then led to believe that the blow might be struck immediately ; and what was that blow? What wee Freon to do? She was to seize the heart of the cometcr. (Hear, and • laugh.) The French were to come up the Thames, enter London, and there to dictate an end levy exactions from a con quered pen (C hest TC= and counter cheers.) When, then, the noble lord taunte my hon. friend that he did not perceive with sufficient rapidity the whole nope and bearing of the ministerial proposal, and protest against the form is which it was proposed to call upon the house to authorise the raising of the money, he might remember that others, too, have changed the tone they then adopted, and that • calm, quiet financier is not always master of himself when a Prime Minister 00UMS down and makes than terrible communications to an ap plied and frightened House of Commons. ("Hear, beer," and a laugh.) But, sir we are in • peculiar position with regard to these resolut ions. The resolution of the govern meat ukslue to sanction that which they themselves my they do not wish the home to adopt ; and the num explained by a technical reason which I could not accu rately collect from the Secretary of State, but which I take for granted was satisfactory to those around him. (Hear, hen.) Then we come to the amendment of the hon. mem ber for Liaised. Now the great objection to his reple tion as it stands Is, that it den not offer to the house any deer bath awe which to act. In coesequesee of the shift- ing ri their ground, and in consequence before the debate commenced of having relinquished two-thirds of their scheme, the amendment does not any longer apply to the resolution, or meet the necessities of the case as it now steads, and if we agree to the amendment we are called upon to give an opinion which practically is a definite on on the proposed forts at Spithead, which is the most prominent portion of the amendment, but which is relinquished by the govern meet. There is no rofereace to thu mend in the &mead went, and es one point that is relinquished is alluded to, it would be inconvenient, now that the other point is re lioquislied, if that is not alluded to also. In the oounie this discuseke, if anything has been satisfactorily shown, it is that the rule which the government has alluded to in regard to Spithend applies equally to Ply mouth. (Hear, beer.) The noble lord attempted to controvert that, hut he did not appear to me to meet the point, he merely relied on the report of the commission. That commission examined only one witness, and that the harbour-master. Now one tritons is no doubt enough when he is of your opinion— (a laugh);—end those who have heard from persons in authority that the construction of the fans might seriously injure the navigation of Ply mouth Sound naturally wished that evidence should be taken Maltose that the construction of the forte would not bare that effect. There was, therefore, only one witness, and that an official and local one ; but the result ma hardly be considered satisfactory by the house. What the house wants ia an opportunity of separately considering ell the points that had been raised. (Hear.) Haying agreed to this form of raining the money, which I deeply I repot, and having proceeded so far in the construction o/ WM of the works, it would be more satisfactory if the seentittee would endeavour to obtain so occasion of giving ear epleise more in detail than can be afforded us by soy more rekslution. There is one point in the speech of the noble lord which has been brought before the house Dot froths first time to-night. He ways that these fortifications are to he regarded in the light of an improvement to our = and that the oast ma therefore properly be upon those who us. But e - what ground do IPS make votes for fortifications in the ordinary yearly eath mates ? Surely they are an equal improvement of our free holds. Why we should sate M,ooof. for Keykiam dock, and raise a loan to fortify Plymouth Sound I cannot under stand. Ido not see when the line is to be drawn. I hope the houses of parliament will prove • pens amt improvement, and ese that pon-zity may lon miry ; but the expense of building them oely appeared Is the annual estimates. If the house, in addition to the mug votes for fortifications, Is now going to construct other mobs by means of song reined wader • nartionler her, I beg honourable mambas seriously to ooss' e ssi x er r a. dangere course upon which it entered, ybe the means of incurrilin alreadyng a vast war tun, not by increase al tazatioa, which it is not probibir that the country would beer, but by the cattinthaos of • system of loam. (Hear, beer.) I thweli, however, WA It is useless to regret the first ; our object should he either*. oompeamte for our error in the beet way we ma. end tomes if we cannot, even sow, amens something Mos a due Petrol over this expenditure. The only way I. which we am do that aeon to me to allow the bill to Pam into coin main, and then in every gleam we shall lave an efforts. sky of examining it in ita minutest details. Ueder ti.• circunistances, and particularly alter the great chase% °mesoderm which have been made by her Mtjetn't ten in the scheme Weight, I think that our object be to get the bill into conainittee, and that no amen:Line; should be premed to-eight. U the amendment were pre... d it would only give the to • false inference. (Hear, h er.) Sir F. SMITH, as the seconder of the amendment, cajk upon tlz boo. member for Lisksard to withdraw it Mr. OSBORNE considered that the government, I, Crtheir notice on the paper. bad left him no demo, i ng o muter the subject, and be left the commute, jade whether be had not pestered the subject, and w h et 4 las Lad received any detailed answer. He put it to th, chairman of the Irce Plate Committee whether he had ut accurately dated the reenled the experimeote at bhoehu 7 . nee ; and with regard to the speech of the noble l or d a s the house upon the altered tone which it e r . l areP i r d wards oar intimidate ally the Emperor of tie Froth. He did not wish to prolong the delete, u k , government bad graded the first part of hie ameorinre, and he wan prepared to take the advice offered to hire 44 withdraw his motion, leaving the discussion in detail ix, they pt into committee. Mr. BRIGHT wanted to know whether an oppA ta i t , would be allowed for the discineion of the measure ia dr ' tail. Was the bill to be simply a contannaoce bill, Of woad it include in its clauses the different propositions to dug the right hos. gentleman bad alluded in his speech Sir G. O. LEWIS said it was • bill of 22 clauses, rte detained • schedule in which the different propea.vs were set out with the rum proposed to be voted for eel. The resolution wet then agreed to, and The hood returned. COAL MINKS BILL. This bill WM reed • mood tune. PETItOLIIIII BILL. The house having gone into committee on this bill. Sir J. SHELLEY objected to going on with the bill this time of night. These were several objections to n, but it wee impossible to &cum them et that time. Ss moved that the Chairmen report progrees. Sir G. GREY mid the MR bad bees much pressed opol him. With regard to Larks, the regulation. wers tame se the sob is force relating to gunpowder. Sir J. SHELLEY withdrew his motion. The 111 E then passed through committee. AFRICAN SLAVE TRADE TREATY BILL Oa the seder of the day for the seoood reeding of ibi s 141 1. EWE faRD etegretuleted the home on this *sty, which he said wee on. of the most advantageous moose which amid be adapted, and reflected the greatest crock e the United States. The bill was then read a mooed time. LUNACY ISOOTLAND) BILL. Thin NU was Nod a third Mae mid plaid. PORTBDOV7I4I FAIR DROOONTINITANCE BILL This bIB was ?earl third time sad pima TR ANEW= OF LAND (STAMP DUTY). . . . The hones net into committee, and a resoltition . mewed to authorising the imposition of certain stamp ditties on the transfer of lend. 0011PANDI13, de., BILL This bill pond through committee. NAVAL AND VICTUALLING STORM BILL. This bill was reed a third time end pried. POOR REMOVAL BILL This MB was timisemoomd tine. - CHANCERY REGULATION (IRELAND) BILL The bin wet read a mad acne. SHEEP (IRELAND) BILL. Thle IQ wee read a oteowd SUM LUNATICS LAW AMENDMENT. On the Mike al Mr G. Gist, leave wee aline to bring a MU to amend the kw retain to human. SELECT 001011117.1 ON okimprez OE tli; mods; ;TRY. 11(Toesiut., — th; iiOir — Mi — Mmethe voro mmeimata the West eammittme me ardour. Mar sal. Sir G. Lamb, Noon] Nal, Yr. Oaltaifte. O•ftei Jarvis, ILL Raring. Mr F. Smith, Mr. Decimal. filr i = Sir & Nartimoto Mr. Laird, Major O'Reilly, Mr. Sir M. NO; sod Mr. Thins ; poorer to mod for venom sod "mord. ; five to be the gamma. paper, &Owned at halfput 1 /dock. MARKET& --.--- LONDON WEZKLT DOCK EMI lagraelL Itiortea-111. L Mar tree U to Zest Lee 5111111 Itanthe Havana sAa abs..bens =altseetede Dw Deno—Wriet Ina& NI Do..bete a— M C V ens. Ma Meths Other I. Leis Ma Dna &CUM lig 1;1 Ottle• Pmerora.., Box TOP De ltoz.El l4OB amgrigni Mitten AMU ith 6.11, - fie SAS 1,196 - 1,111 1,1111 VMS 0 1154 1,166 - i.osi ies ISMS 1011.23$ 118,911 lASI I isi:i i i i I 104111 WAR $O,llB Ula TADO W S 4.197 "61$ NM 114,71 IS, 11,741 UAW 111;,871 141111, 37,417 UN Le 15,614 Seel 6•83 TALLOW.—The demand for tallow during the Fes week hen been good, end holders being firm, pros bar* feuded 'Mbar *Oast buyers, our goatee's= todr being from 3d. to 6d. above *owe of last Mooday and all this mouth, 46.. 9d. to 47e. ; July, 475. ;As gust and September, 48s. ; Oct. to De c., at. 9d. to th Town tallow, 445. 9d., net mi. Australian dheep, It. to 465. 6d. ; beef, 445. to 445. 6d. ; Anima held for 47a Ist pipes; North • 413 a. 9d. 46. Ceocenut of Sow ; Oosidn, lies. ; Cep ine. 64. ; nay, to 51s. 13d. ; low, Oa. to 808. all slowly las BJd Ur" 42a. 6d. I Wh ydeb, 42a. • Accra, 40s. to 39L Pam nut oil wane, 40s. to 425., Ito fuss ; Jb. do bores grease, 345. • rgh fat, 2s. 4 7 —Man the Meek odliewirs. Smith ind Mules, dated Monday evening.) oarrox.—Ltviarom, Jun 23.—Oar mast spini today with a ♦ary actin &mood, with an adman d to Id. par lb. on Friday's quotations. 'Ms mks an 25,00 balm, Including 4,000 Ausarina to 15d. Swat, 711 d. to 12d. ;4800 Finial's, Dd. to 1 6 4; SP! Putnam, nia. to ; Bahr, to to ;101 llaraaham, 13d. to 1 ,of which an tor spoil tics and =port. 71to week's import 8,154 baba. cArna-Lrynrooc, Joss 23.—TbsmAZ at, yd adl. d =,, and lambi was lan than m but . The vae7 good to aaol, at Isighar prior to cattle ad aboop. No &sap is tits value of lambs. 00A113.-Lormort, Jan 23.-Buddle's Wa t BMli. 14e. i 96. ; Heap Hartley, 14.. 9d. ; Robison, ll Lumbar. Wad kiartley, 1 4.. 9d.; North Una Co. Us. 6d. ; ILoEold Your BOUM, 16. ; Walker Prise* 11.. 6d. ; Wilma, ; Walla Bid Acorn Clem lk; Walls Rid Ms.. Walls Bid Gator* Will. Bid Hareem, 14s. id. ; Walla Essdl ida l, v l4s. Walla Bid Jamas. 16 6d. ; Wal6 Rid 14a X. Walls Had Mese, 13a. dd. ; Eden Main, 16. ; Fal Biaddyll. Mates, 16. 6d. ; Walla Pad Fraroire3.B 15.. Od. ; Will. Rid Hatton, 16a. 9d. ; Walls End 66 Hatton, 116 9d. ; Walls Red Stearart's, 16s. 3L ; Walls Ed Corm, 16. 6d. ; Walls Zed Carsdoe, Ha. 6d. ; Walls EA 16s. 3d. ; Walla Fad Haugh Half W. 1 ,111 En H V l Tu ° a l ivick, 14a. ; Walls Pad 13‘,. Walls Hod South Hartlepool, 15a. ; Walls two: Derhl= o s ; Walls Rod South Kenos, 13.. 6d. ;WJ E.G 16s. ; Walls Zed Whitman 3d.lk ; Cerwsl i trtEryn Anthracite, 215.; Carve ad Duffrys Maltleg, 22a. ; Coupes Hartley, Ship at at market, 136 ; sold, 73. VISSILB SPOKEN WITH. amonal, from Sunderland for OWN, June 1& Arousals, for Mauritius, June 10. lat. 49 N., too. 7 W. ironhewn:nubßand for Pernambuco, Jane w• • N. lon. SO W. Ileassoes (barque), of Workington, from Penang for Loodoe ls days, short of provisions, June Rio lat. 38 47 N . 100. 12.21 from Havre for Janeiro, May 11, lat. I. la 10 W. ambler, Marshall, from Lmdon for Demean, loos U. 1 0 .4 N., ion. 8 W. eMand, from London for Quebec 41 days, mg 16. 411 BIRTHS, ILARRIAOIB, AND DEATHS. BIRTHS. 11001+8Y.—Jane 19, tin wife of Mr. Z. C. Boom of Parke LA. liagoatO•park, of a No. LINDBAY.—JaiIa 19, at Whipolooalool, 1129 int° °I 1 C Lindsay, laq., of a Itl LlON.—Joas 11, = t iros, of J. 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