The Express. — London, England, 1859-03-23 00:00:00

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Beak W. :Rif b 2 1:1 '4, nirirLsc p TiTbAL 1.7 MMUS 10101. • Modiel Won Ingodod tor Os opine of il no on alreill .mg on tho nine Penn of Norris on no; 1 Mon.DAlikorgetaillognollor go no or golo7t = of oen oGinloro to tho legionn el non Inn bo in oil neon to g orsollOgnes Man or doligtatod trio nine moron log awn I=egi nil OT angina Iron no lengion of a li nr i n min iontWillon=sr=l=4ll2a onosans ton to tho ri z io l r not ap mg regolin nil tin nuodoi node laid ph • Oa mon deign WINIAgo le non of bin intro that tin on Sorrow moron on Wain ; Man that nes no Inn Ilme nun as inn plan god Mot non trove Ongoloing al ray Inet• no on=e=boogininill. tont tontboi, or eriawrierA. ind no to • onitlia bun arid tone oronnion t ins rrEleliga n ininfirn• In set is,:., Na eire. r~IN leoz.alouotri: el Own 'iaMaliblleil W Mom Olt Own*. sal dal ioetnilfre. 1 COURT or ALDLRMEIe.—A Court of Aldermen WM held yemerday, at Guildhall, the Lord Mayor presiding. • report was troeght op from the gaol committee ' stating that is comequince of a communication made to them by Mr. Tows Clark, relative to a return made by Mr. George Wright, governor of the City mime at Holloway, they had exam Med Mr. Wright, sad his information and answers not being_satisfactory, they bed susp e n ded him and appointed Mr. Weetherhead, governor of Newpte, governor pro ten. of Holloway. The whole of the cirtuniatancee of the case were now under the conaideration of the law officera of the corporation, whose declaim the committee were awaiting; but the facts disclosed were sufficient to induce the committee to advise the court at ass to dismiss Mr. Wright, declare the offi.e vaceust, and proceed to appoint Ws suemesse. A motioa for agreeing with the conuotitee in their meet wee agreed to news. eon.; sad a Imp dimes/ion followed as to the steps to be taken with regard to the appointment of a new governor for Holloway prison. In the course of that dismis sion Mr. Alderman Copeland intimated his conviction that a majority of the court bad already deeded is favour of Dace faring Mr. Wiatherheed teem Newrate ; but shimmery it was decided to refer the whale alibied to the gaol committee, with instructions to iambs and report upon the nature of the dirtier and emolutnesta of the aloe, to receive and ma- Mine oppllcatim.., and to abet three writ qualified persons from among the candidates, Militias vim of one of the three Wog appointed by the coon to the moist care. TIIE PROPOSED RAILWAY ikellOtie TNT THAMES. —1" e.terday masebigattommittee of the Home of Commcee, meeded over by Mr. Upham, assembled for the purpose of biking evidenee cm the mbar* for constructing a railway mem the river Beer Hemperford-beMge, with a stat:on is Rempsened Market. Mr. Almander. who appeared fur the promoters of the echasois„called Mr. HeemoW, a gentleman pampered with the Fenno-office, wise mid that it was of W greatest possible Importance with regard to their des patches by the sight airs that they should have as much time ea poselikie to wpm them, mg a quarter of an hour or tinnily mimeos at MAN was ammallime of great settees' importance. They was obliged to allow their memengers half-sm boar to remelt the stenos at Londoe-ti lam If the station were at Huagerked it wiped be within five minutes' Dart of the Foreign-olles sad the eller governmest &p.n• meats, end womb time, therein% wield be saved in the trammiellos of deepseaim. hares then proposed to call a mailmen hem the Wee deportmeet be mom the mess facts, bat Dlr. Inhale, heels( meeselted with the ether =embers of the eemwsittee, said they bed come to the Maicoeschni / ce that the rLeeed Clerfararess or Hm • poet peens movesisses, s te ed they men not re mere tint TRIESISMAIL—Psotected by Royal Letters q tdn Tits thrum Ir t acmittLg BULAI NAVIGATION men a sea sous r r s 4 .../ 1 :: Cotersxi.—The petwigel Mimi in the knead= of this ea ramme stems warm Is the eel of the trade with the etedoset et • . t=t,!4ll. me • homes me Akita, sal theiumer• el beadles for enneemelel tramec , st.t. re ewer 1 '61:1 "..."=0....' •"*.r d i t dims with Om tweweetee section of the glebe. The menet W.....,h=4,111rite• it Memerk in to sireet:wees is eekohntli to prom • esiegie enaffiney Oa eer emeneroisi menna ese4 ,W, . . 06 . . 1 .1..1= 1 ":„ iim mem et tarpreM ... maw= 'l a ib tine eeMms b . Thawing' metinekihrimezant maZw"..:=l2l.l` L" ma '1". 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UPTUREtl.—By_Royal Letters Patna. 11 WITS 1190.14 • lIIRoy al Is alma whip rasa smagas is 1:1.80 ~la losall i a use 25er24111:112114. arljt as ia lat the bw. odift Magog pl ng 1.111 AD Millis : sla ass dams. s mast le ssi a l = - la — ars L ed isr ""s Ar b taisoall,.l7 ant to is Or isamilsokili. • llama eat was Yids DE JONOIIII LIGHT-DROWN COD Nom[:V 011.-4; IT WILITT et count rrton.-ei. e := l :4 4 " m" ' syL mil lr a zjar i a ir wi ma o, :0 1 Pc %% i v?, it•INTIET-=1 - 011e10 1 . IL l• awed s ... 47 . 0= =1 nriti p. o r . ma ig ' 9 ,"ffissibt Ihm. MI Is SW Mid& we neer ems orimmio ilow , -IPtes IOS I. in fa. Iti iiie vw i p... .rola. p op. r o r mi . AL salrinuoin IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. so • Ifikidjk that the Limiting low we the Iwof morals for the piss of God, end mak be the foundation el the nth ei Welnism. We bed inlawited a lend Mr frau aim 41211kwowsto, sad emus= morel same emknined Wean= madam If otse elms should bit lifinolA wed' It be possible to tem then? (Hear, bee.) WM 111 peals to open the food-githe end ea t o the eimeng mikes, stop, yon shell p no far th er? Way shoal" not merrier with • stepmother follow warriege with a keinsel wifie *Am? And if marriage with •At Naltatit, whet we to hinder marriage with Mom As elinent Meaty And admitting thin whel. pie.l. ll ow meld be primate& from applying to the lows Of 0011 BA- D (Hear, bar.) He would nay to their lord- Beware o f t:Zi w this evil is the bad." Let th ese womb of the Great el ell dink Into 70fif minds : Dab net with wf Sem Abr., for in MI these „ A the mem ms OM th e lead is de filed. Yodel Ilialato bow az datwlas owl my jud ments, Mil din net emelt soy 41 ll= elmiwollose The Mist of CIABLIIILI Mewl lab do last two right 701. p o lice who had eddremed thek kehatipe, and contended that theme& of Serpture, "during herbfedele," Wm • proltflitles "during her lifetime my, end not after her lifetime. (Hear, bear.) It had been mid that this ma not the ease of the working deism Now during the 16 leers which be had been a working clergyman, it had been his lot to be brought into communication with such cams over and over spin, end he had never witnessed an unhappy marring of this description. Many of these person; had 'skid bin to marry them, but be bad declined to do en se long a the low wee opposed to such marriages. lie had invariably respected the Taw ea it u laled„and u aprod dab staawity lowa to the bet..thet St had been his painful duty to mead a clergyman in his own diocese to vacate his living bee he bad married his deceased wife's enter. He thought no sellelent as bad been made out to show that marriage with a decried wife's sister woe oontrary to the law of God, end having seen much of the evils of the present state of the law, he had come to the coeclueice that It was his duty to vote for the ;second reeding of the bill. (Hear.) Lord WODEHOUSE replied, urging that it was not jai tiftelgo to put restrictions on the liberties of them whose motives were not less conscientious then those of the oppo- Dents of this bill. The home Oven divided, and the mentors were Foe the mond reeding of the bill : Contents 39 Non-oestana 49-10 The bill was therefore lon. COURT OF CHANCERY ACCOMMODATION BILL. Oa the motion for the esocad reeding of this bill, Lord REDEBDALE objected that it was one which ought not to lammed hastily, since it mactionwl the appropriationof 4,0001. a year out of the suitors' fee fond to provide accom modation for the courts of equity, spirt from the accommo dation oldie law owes ; and he thought the whole subject should be rehired to • select committee. The LORD CHANCELLOR explained that the bill would meta the least affect the public interest, and in only object was to empower the Lord Chancellor to Mks • lease from the oarporaMn of Lincoln's-inn, which could not be done without parliamentary sauctioo. The Chief Commis sioner of Works had decided to giant a commission to in quire into the expediency of concentrating all the courts of law in Lincoln's-inn gelds. The bill wee then reed • seoond time. The Consolidated Fond Bills were read a 'second time ; the County Costly Bill went through committee ; the report on the Convicts Prisons Abroad BM woe remind ; the Eccle eleatical Courts (Ireland) Bill wee read • second time, all without discussion Their Icedshipe adjourned at twenty minute before eleven o'clock. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TrEaDAT, MAsca 22. The Lotto Camtcm.l.oa took Wm seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. Lord DUNGANNON presented a petition from 450 wean in Pinney end Fulham easiest the bill for legalising montage with damsel wd e'sester. Petition' whet the bill were also promoted by Lord BIEDMIDSLIIIIII other noble lords. Petitions Is favour of the bill were presonted by the Earl et Ripon, hem Shefileld, by the Earl of Albemarle, from Ipswich, and by Earl Grey, from Manchaeter, Haddon field, and Las& Laid OVERSTONE remarked that the petitions which ha W possented from the committee representing the three thsosdsolirso of protestant (hematites and from the Baptist laden, WM& halm entered on the journals of the house se lielme asehme the yypißl,, were in favour of it. Meisel oICAZLIMII promsted esestal petition' from Leib and the sighborsheed Is Isom of the bill enabling dissenters to be Image of ebewftiaa MAIIRLIOII WITH A DECEASED WIPE'S SISTER. Last WODEHOUSE having premmted several petitions ie Imam of this bill, moved that the bill be read • second time. He said the question had been me fully and frequently dimmed that he ibonld not trouble their lordships with any lelgtheeed dissemiaa upon it. The question had made great daring the last twoaty years, and the majorities Vire, home of Perlianient in he favour had risen from 10 to Nand 70. Balm he soaked some of the objectionei M the hill be wlshd tor 'Mat oat that only related to dvii marriages, and did not com pel the clergy to eekbrate marriages to width they might have • coandentious objection. The objections to the bill 'night be divided tato two claim, the religious sad the racial. With regard to the religious part of the question, the opponents to the bill relied now very much kas on that argument than they did at Ant. The noble lord then quoted the opinion of the chief rabbi, which was to the effect that them marriages were not prohibited by the laws of Moses. The Archbishop of Dublin also was in favour of thee, unione; the Bishop of London, before he became a iuember of th e bones, petitioned in favour of the measure, and the Bishop of rt. David's, though he voted againat the bill, bad siso =esed his opinion that the scriptural objections to maniere were only matters of informal end construction. The Bishop of Manchester had m a similar opinion, though be declined to vote so peened the MIL He now came to the second objection, which we, that these marriages, if permitted, would be pro &pony' of great social mils. This objection should be divided into two the relations of • man to his wife's dater while Me wife was living, and his relations to her sitar the wiles death. As regarded the first, it was sold that this law pre vented a too close intimacy between a man and hie sister-in law. But there wee a much streamer barrier than that, end that eras the estate:me of the wife. Than, with regard to tits relationship with the aister•in-law after death, It was mid, with great truth, that there wee no such natural guardian for the children of a widower as the sister-in-law. If the lady were elderly, there would be no impropriety in ber remain. tag to live with the widower after the wills death; bet it they were bath young, her remaining in the home would canoe great scandal. With regard to the poorer clauses of society, It was the opinion of many persons well qualified to judge, that the present state of the law caused great immorality. On this point he quoted the opiates. of the Rev. Mr. Champoeye, the rector of Whitechapel ; the Rev. Kr. Dale, the rector of St. Panama • the Rev. Dr. 1 Hook, late vicar of Lode and now Den ' of Chichester, which were all confirmato ry of the views he had stated. When the oonmeissioners reported, it was supposed that 500 of these marriages took place annually; but there was reason to believe that now there were upwards of 100.1 Then it should be remembered that in all ,o the countries of the world, except in Ruesia by the Greek church, them marriages ware permitted. In Rom an catholic countries they were permitted by dispeneatlon. There wee no State in America in which those marriages wore not permitted. They were sanctioned throughout Gee- 1 many, In all the Protestant Cantons in Switzerland with one mamma and in Prussia. The oily eras n for maintaining the restrilaion we Imperative necessity, but no much imps istive necessity had been shown to exist. Quite the cm teary. The increasing majorities In the other home and the .amber of petitions which hod been proemial afforded an ample reason why their lordships should gam the dedebne of the Howie of Commons and pass the bill. (aw; bear.) 1 Lord DUNGANNON, feeling convinna that Oho most serious evils would result from the r aw a wok a measure, moved, as an amendment, that it he moll that day Mx months. There we. not a dole test, in Holy Writ permitileg or sanctioning merrier= et this' description, and it was a most extraordinary eminent to say that because they were not directly prohibited they might be indirectly sanctioned. He had the satiefection of knowing that many of the most dietinguished members of their lord ships' house were opposed to the bill, and amongst them be might same his geese the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Bishop of Oxford, wives eloquence on a previous dlscuo,ion of the subject be should never forget. The Earl of ALBEMARLE was glad that hie noble friend had abstained front those offensive allusioas in which the opponents of the bill were too frequently In the habit of Indulging, and tau-fed that the example which he had eat would be followed throughout the debate. The law as it now stood was teemed upon an antiquated canon, mutest a thee when the Chr'stian dearth was departing from Its purity. He should vote for this bill, because be held that on religions, morel, and social con siderations these marriages were perfectly unobjectionable— that they tended to promote the happiness of the parties and the welfare of many. motherless child, and he thought their prohibition was • roes ',tektites of the rights of conscience. nem were his opinions, given la the words of • right rev. member of the bench, who was prevented by domestic aMic dem from being priment the evening. He therefore trusted that the two well known opponents of the bill, whom ho law now on the epiecopsl bench ; would not arrogate to themselves to be the mouthpiece of the right rev. bench, as one of them (lid when the subject was last under discus sion. Their main objection was of an ecclesiastical and canonical nature, sad they sought to interpret the Scripture by the canon, not the canon by Scripture. It appeared from the evidence of the right rev. prelate who lately euper:ntended the populous parish of St. George, Bloomebury, that the poor people knew ve r y little of the illegality of these coarriages,aud If they were aware of It they di s pensed with the marriage carentony. The law which produed such a state of Wags was monstrous, and ought to bo changed. Tho Bishop of EXETER trusted their lordships were not now prepared to say that marriage wee a mere civil contract, and that mardsges might be performed in the registrar's office which were incestuous and coatrery to the law of God. He felt that if he approved of them be should be unfaithful, a traitor, end an apostate to the church of which he was a bishop. He did not Irish to par judgment on others, who did not see their duty as it appeared to him the plain common sense of English. map meat me It ; he wee sure they bad convinced themselves ln tome extraordinery manner that they might fly in the floe of that church of which they were bishops, when they hod bolted themselves to put dove morons that were cri. mincing, and to maintain the law of God. Lord ST. LEON ARDS pointed o ut the great axial alte ration ale bill would muse is families, and the incon venience and jealousies which would flow from their being ;lino; itrd The Bishop of ST. ASAPH belie ved that peat miscon ception prevailed in the ommtry with respect to this quotient. Re wee one of those who bel i e ved that these marriages were forbitiiion the low of Clod, in the &me ernes u polygamy was, sad exactly on the same grounds and for the ;anti relines. Vimpount LIFFORD mentioned instances, one of them that of a noble ler), where ouch man twee hod taken piece, to the death-bed of the dyne wife; and others, where the deemed wife had reqloested the husband to marry her =tar OS BOOS SO this cruel law was rept sled. Lard CRAN WORTH remarked that his opinion upon the question remised unchanged. That opinion was founded upon the so. i4l not upon the religions ground, for upon the religious ground there wee so mach difference of opinion wronger th..e who were authorities on the subject, that he thought it unadynable to proceed upon that. It was foe the sake of the women of England t h at he opposed the bill, In. Boeing that it would be imposeibis for a wife to receive her elder under her roof on the same terms of intimacy with her litoband as she could now, were the eliding law repealed. The Bishop of CORK supported the WI on the ground that such marriages uit referred to were not contrary to Glod's law. As a natter of expedienty, therefore, be thought they ehould not stigmatise marriages which were not contrary to Gee law or to nature as illegal, and bastard= the Wm. (B eer.) He knew of nothing that would more tend to which bring the legielature into con tempt then to insist upon laws were in no way hocoesiatent with nodal morality or religion. Upon the religions pond he observed that the highest opts ,' copal authorities were rn his favour, end he denied altogether ' that, even if these marriages were fotbidden by the Levitical 1 I law, they were forbidden to Christie= with whom the licseic law wee net binding. Bet if there were certain mu- I Asses forbidden by the Jewish law, sad pule/table by pains and penalties, the Jewish law did not deslare that thee Were null cud void. That war left for a Minns lev'e'ature to do. (Hear. hear.) As they multiplied forbidnin thinural gs, and made illegal that towards whit& &sunlight be • nat to ear natural notions tendency, end which was not opposed of r ight. so they incressed the pour of the gnat enemy of ann to land us into =it. Vl= Oi 13T. DAVID'S WIN& nreposed alteration wee so Illearallom ; be toosaisiod it rterearoesaos. It sera that, W they woo to Is as to dhot estmagrade would lewd them k • waste of Datum It was ertaikolXvise noway. He kora Osoilliesir lesdeb7p7a lAN *dr Wali _aka —that lbw wadi lee perpetual banks swig ilot tide GI lostragiso vlitk ow threatening lie ewe erul A die saw pcuM sou she meet sassed in ' ellintrelMe ern bed. - The NOW effOlTOßlikaeid ihe law el God WM nosh= ' saMmilloa, Alibi gaol law wallmodlaw lid WA il lowa Hon of the noble lord. He regretted Hat for he was conetientlanalY deimme rimil lr ( Vrt it==dna to aim say kiWrine seesse. .) set Tete be • bill which would s itM e ng but urge& agesyllAp& sae would fail to meet tbajait wants of the ermagrg. Carr, bear.) He, tor me, wu oot &timed by Mg MONISM*, of • delelealon. If the 'ebb led* the heel of Hie pavedlikeigia that by mattes ejortttsln • aseleitilit tionhl NNW • y flow imeremity of the borough Inalmilee, sad main= hismagft nib ' at its memo* mem* be might be jagrM k teldag that step,. 6art he kid the hem MOW pad , him to mil fkis opinion of eir IL Peel, Aimed at a serious crisis of hie political life. The hoe. gentlemen Teed an extract from the Memoirs of Sir R. Peel, in which, in addruaing the members of his own cabinet in 1846, he stated that a mi nister would not be justified in recommending the crown to diseolve parliament without feeling a moral conviction that the result would enable him to carry on the government of the country, and that he would not be justified in taking or bin ion guthed(r conclusion w llueertpresentlo h at' the;bu y ear, whatever l efw affairs,lic sr . p .oi t u: o b uif li es c udture t o wal res pin . i nar e e charg i i :i y u dre:44 l l ,..... th :d s a to g "e ra th i e , - t dthewhiltwg"b:uldi6rPasililthyeiroladdbobwre"ingtowetdh6onopind to'fons,:::Rht: it e r subject, to use every effort to bring it to the earliest parable public duty if, at a great crisis, they did not above all other things consider it their bounden duty ire bring this question to a satisfactory termination. (Hear.) Sir E. B. LYTTON said that the hon. rotten= who had jest sat down endeavoured with his lewd tan to divert the attention of the house from the question at issue, as it had been very clearly put before them by the right hon. genie man the member for Stroud. If this question must pus out of the hands of the Derby government, Into whom hands was itto pus ? (Hear.) Was it to pass into the hands of those who at that moment were sitting before him w carefully frigid and candid! (pointing to the seat occupied by Lord John Russell.) (Laughter.) Would the bill brought in by the succeeding government be satisfactory to those who professed radical opinions, or would it be satisfactory to those who spent 26 years of their lives in abjuring radical opinions ! (Rear, hear, and laughter.) But granting, after the solemn lecture dello:Red to the govern ment by the hoe. gentlemsnwho had just addann, that there was uo appeal to the country, would there be no quarrel in Downing-street ? Would not the quarrel of years on this very subject of reform still exist there? (Heel If we are told that our bill is condemned by public opinion out of doore, then he replied that that public opinion required some thing more than was to be found in the amendment of the noble lord. (Cheers.) It required something more than is to be found in the spools of the noble to ; it would require more than any whig government would venture to Impose, cr than any conceivable government would attempt. (Hear,bear.) He did not believe that the lowering of the orough frostbite from 101. to 61. would be a disadvantage to the conservative cause in that house. On the contrary, he believed it would be indirectly advents/oone to it. (Hear bear.) It would not be a disadvantsge, because he took it for gronied that whether there • 101. or • 61. franchise, persons hold ing liberal opinions would be returned for the large towns. There would. therefore, be no difference in the Wanes of numbers. But what constituted the power of • party ? It was the cultivated intelligence, the modesties - and good tense of id members. (Hear.) All them edvantegus would be gaimd more by a 101. constituency than by aK. conati toeney. (Beer, bear.) The worst enemy of the moderate redeemer was not the colservative gentleman, but the dorm gut° adventurer. (Hear, hear.) It was by the dome gomo adventurer that the upright reformer was outbid. ("Hear, bear," and cheers.) To replace the upright reformers in this house by the demagogic advectures would be your lees and our gain, because they would not be the came formidable competitors for power: they might make a violent • opposition, but they could never units to form the Queen. government. (Hear, hear.) Morally and • intellectually, therefore, you would lose by 'atoning the suffrage as you desire. (Rear.) Bat, en the other head, to extend the bonnie in the counties and to admit the agri cultural villagers and labourers would be a gain to the con servative side, because they were more under the control of property. (Rear.) What he bed pointed out would be the remit of placing numbers not nadir the control ef peoperty, but under the control of ignorance and passion. (Hear.) TIM, thou, would be their gain; but he was far from wishing to sec each a result. He did net wish fa t the sake of European freedom to see the great liberal pery thus morally da maged. (Hear, hear.) When, therefon, he asked them to pause before they hastily committed themselves to a lowering of the borough franchise, it was bosun ha believed they could not always be smog in the house if they created they could which would return liberal members of a lees elevated standard than he sew before him. (Laughter.) The lon. member for Davenport, following in the wake of a 'deer vessel. dwelt on the necessity of destroying the duller b or oughs because o niformity of suffrage was to he adopted by our bill. On the contrary, what he said was this—tat yen could not lower the borough franchise without destroying the entailer boroughs. Your object was to bring a larger portion of the working claw within the franchise. How could you lower she franchise in the smaller boroughs with. out lowering it in the larger ones where the populatiou greater, where the artisans rec eived higher was, end where they had probably more intelligence? The lowering of the borough franchise was therefore indisselithly connected with the smaller boroughs. (Hear, hear.) Who could doubt that! Were there any persons in that house so innocent and lambiike as to be led to the slaughter by the noble lord's mending amendment? (" Hear, hear, ' and lughter.) Tee, there was one m ember. It was the hoc member for Sandwich. (Laughter.) " Pleased to the last he mops hie flowery food. And licks the hand just raised to abed his blood." (Cheers and laughter.) But when the seals were destroyed then came the difficolty. To what places were they to be transferred? Did hoe. gentlemen anppo'e that the govern ment did not go thoroughly into that question? They might have made their bill more popular ; they might have pro duced a morn comprehensive measure—(bast, hear)—they might have swept from SO to 120 boroughs away; but having done so they found, se the noble lord said they found, at by every c onsideration which could he reeognisa in de ding with this question, the larger number of the vacant rods mud be given to the counties. Meer, hear ) Others bad arrived 0 the same coucludon„ but if they had done so, what would have been said ? (Hear ) Bill It would have been said that they had prepared a for the purpose of ser ving their own most Tarty. They did nothing of the kind—they had no wish to raise that d ange rous battle cry between town and country that mud arise whenever they came to a vedistribution of seats. When ever that day came, the counties could put forward a claim to a much large prep than they now possess. (Hear, hear.) The kind of bill that was desired by MUM, was one which would involve a peeponderanoefof arbor celestite/amiss with a lower franchise. That was the real question at 1441141, and It was one much more important than the paltry ma raised by the noble lord—it was a queetion which nearly in volved the dignity and power of that house. The proper object of • Reform Bill was to increase the dignity and power of the House ef Commons ,• If it failed in that, what ever might be its roachisery, ft was utterly worthless. (gear, bear.) Let them look at the hu mbly, f • moment. That wee not merely • popular anembly, it was also a deliberative one—it smelled the h' hest function', and arrogated to itself the right of examining the moat subtle questions of home and foreign policy. In that rasped it differed from all titer free colonial legislatures. Whatever other ptivileges trey might posseas, they could not even Mims the question of their own defences much bee Interfere with foreign policy—that belonged to t he imperial assembly alone. Take even the American Amembly. Tho Home of Re preantatives scarcely ever touched on foreign politico melees in the case of a martian of the tiriff or public money. Foreign politics belonged to the Sena% and whenever the Senate discussed the ratification of a treaty or a queen. ei of political imfrostence, it tuned Reel! into an ezecative body, dismissed Ill e reports 0. and sat with cloud doors. Ask any etndid America', end be would say that even in domestic affairs they looked to the Senate for • guiding intelligence The moon was, that the Home of Representatives bad become what Commons. g(ntlecon opposite wanted to make the House of Commons. (Hear, bear.) In the attempt to popularise it , it had been lowered or sear the level of the muses that the to ceased to respect it. It wee to the Senate, and not to the popular assembly. that the people l ooked , for deliberate and effective considerstion of great medicos. As yet, it was not so in England. The wiser end beet in England could still turn with intereet to their de bater, the traed potentate of Europe might yet tremble bebc:afitodthaiiemdrehci,i;hemiono.....anilmnyinb..4.thescorresis C. disi n .c hit e bis z ni d ee thu n ait t r t i e .t was too late, that in destroying the eistocracy of landed property they bad muted en ariaocreey of mime?, of aristocrat* , the most tineld--(hear)--end had created an arks tamallarrasedits' tbea useasreh ieemmseirm" y umar wea ' acht,e'llisothwiaterswg"..hatthe ut°4 was (li t acki.Nr with , Thu French masarehy sn t, bet what west with it? The olimmeifbi2pesegabtFter:kweiegwpoenwna:stwrona4l:::)resti thidoerelacr„.bhtuyttoulrtyar. Ithenwthimasfcemdia temembet more i vote urocrby ballottha anatituneivtneti.itutintftions cal The boners would pardon him if on the whole he prefemed the oondition of the English voter. (Loud cheers.) That s uffrage might still with sa fety be locoweed, becauee educa tion was posing, whits mounty did not deteriorate. They were relied, wt re they amid to admit the working ten? No man admired more than ho hi English peemot ee weeking man, whether he regarded him se the simple germ% of the country, or the dolled mama of the large with his third ere knowledge sad dream of political Use*, quite es remenslas It might be se that of Plato oral ol Ile edraired sad respeled the the clamm,_but le was sot =i to Nor& the artiams of Reese& to their gistee.) So AA fat regaled to ea** cook HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Tousovr, Kum 22. The SPl4l.llltook the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Great Northam Railway Bill, the Sunderland and South Shields Water Bill, the Tale of Llangollen Railway Bill, sad the Wirral Water Bill, was read a third time and pared. The reports on the Tavistook Markets, Streets, and 7m- The Bill, the Werriegtoe and Stockport Bill, and the Wildebeests Harbour and Town Bill, were considered. The Commercial Dock' Acts Amendment Bill, and the Victoria (London) Docks Bill, were read a second time. JERSEY. Colonel FORESTER, Comptroller of the Household, brought up the sneerer of her Modesty to the address of the house. It was to the following effect :—" I have received your dutiful 'Alma, and have directed a causmisaion to issue to tartans lam and report on tba civil, imotielpa, and ecclesiastical laws and customs now in force in Jersey, in cluding the laws relating to the tenure of land, mate, and near, and ateo the rights of the feudal lords in the said island. To inquire into and report on the constitution of the tribunals by which those laws, customs, and debts are miedniatered, and into the practice and forms of procedure used by them respectively. To inquire Into and report on all detects in ofd abuse. of the said laws end customs in the constitution mi ld tribunals, and in their practice and form of pre mium, and to suggest remedies fer amending the same. To inquire Into the present state of priaans in Jersey, and the mole of classifying primmer,. To inquire into and report on the administration of the mescal public charities of the said Island." PUBLIC BUSINESS. THE GALWAY LINE. Mr. CONINGHAM maul whether the government bad yet arrived at an dead= win reference to the proposed embeidy to the Galen fleemea-paramet Company ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that the government bad come to adsobion, the terms of whirl were nbetanilally sanded, bat the contract had not yet bosh completed. Mar, hear.) THE POST-OFFICE. Mr. KINNAIRD asked whether say alteration had been mule in the charges, or other arrangements, of tee inland book post; and when the alteration would take pine by which an additional penny would be chirped for the Wenn through Egypt of newspapers sent yin Southampton to India or Austrain P Sir S. NORTHCOTE said there had been no alteration whatever in the charges of the book post, though many curious min-statements had no doubt lately appeared hi the newspapers. From time to time increased fecilities had bees given for the transmission of books, but no restrictions bad ben imposed. (lien.) The alterat ion last re'erred to by the hon. gentleman would tot take place till the Ist of January next. There would be no increase of charge on newspapers going through Frame or by the Cape ; but the Pacts el Egypt had takes a larger ewe for the trauit of our com pendium and it bad therefore become necessary to charge a penny additional upon newspapers going through his territory. WEIGHTS AND MEASURES ACT. Mr. JOHN LOCKE obtained leave to bring in a bill to amend the act of the 6th and dth King William IT. re lating to weights and measures. MARRIED PERSONS (SCOTLAND). Mr. MONCREIPP moved for leave to being in a bill to amend the law of Scotland in regard to the Toledo:whip of husband end wife. The object of the measureras ith to extend to S c otland the provisions sclopted last y w regard to the separate property of wives deserted by thin brigands in England. It 'would also attempt to settle between the two countries the matter of juriedic•ion in ma trimonial causes. Leave was gives. CHURCH-RATES ABOLITION BILL. Sir J. TRELAWNY moved that the Speaker do leave the chair. 'lb. CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER appealed to the hen. beronet not to persevere with hie nieVon, and re minded him that mama pntlmeea who had precedence over bite had given way. Sir J. TRELAWNT would move that the debate be adjourned. At the same time he did pot me that there mould he any considerable advantage in postponing his lure, in in order to permit the resumption of the debate on the Reform Bill. Gentlemen of avowed views on that subject did not stem to be at all agreed as to the provisions which should be inserted in the bill, whereas hie mason was one of really practical legislation. After a short conversation the debate wee then adjourned till this day (Werhands7). THE REFORM BILL. The debate en the Hake. Bill was recommenced by Mr. WILSON, who *noted both to the principle and details of the bill, and should be mewed to vote either for the amendment of Load J. Russell a that of Mr. Walley. The noble lord simply peepored a resolution for pottier; the bill upon a worse Ude • the re solution of Er. Wortley was Ws &nein ; but the g overnment mid that if either resolu tion were corded they would throw up the bill. He should hem been glad it they bad accepted either resohatka sad allowed the bill to go into committee, with a view to its amendment. (Hear, Lear.) He had expiated yesterday that they would take this coarse ; bet Lord Etanliy bad distinctly tad the hone that they most swept the bill a• it wee, of Meech. (Lend miss of t• No, no," from the ministerial henehee.) The noble lord ba d exprenly declared that the adoption of the resolutkin lent ineesesseily defog the t h e Tsar, hear.) At all nests, them the fete of the bill epeei upon the moieties. The door was now dead ageing theta. He Ind siaesrely that the government would accept the eiMintion mendad their bill. (" No, coo;" from the gevesamat side.) Kr. Bow mso had miggeited mime mendwelidlis bat they womb as would leave no midge et the inielift bill; moat be like to ed litableeder's befflwpises, TOolliVidi a lOW stook and a new barrel. (ramS loll 4 w hen Teethe bad they that than assandmanir add be M cenusittes. (Hear, base.) 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He thought he might fairly complain of the want of widow of some young gentlemen who had spoken on the previous evening or reference to the lowering of the how chin. The noble lord (Lord I. Russell) and the right bee. member for Halifax (Sir C. Wood) bad urged as the irsat defect of the bill that it did not admit the working clear; but to tell the working cleans that they were entitled to the; franchise, and at the tame timenot to admit than indierrinde ninety, wee only to deceive them. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord told them that he would give a lower franchise, bat no llart t.. ) tha ff Eit i t : ltanchb la t ito ew t, oziw w doo hy ande r i nvi wt teotulahatheilliacterorkinditsvull' divulge. (Seer (11°71 1 agitate for it ; why excite their feelings in order to admit by tens or terepdai, when they would expect to come in by hundreds or tMumin& ? If thet laid down that they ought to be admitted, and yet =eluded a great part, the malt must be that those excluded would sever rest until they also were admitted, (Hear, leer.) If titer were to throw open the door to the multitude and then at tempt to draw a chain acmes, they would give Amato notheg bat a cry of Indignation, to an angry clamour. (gear, heer.)- He might be asked, would he never lower the borough fran chise ? Before he was called on to do the he had a right to know more diennetly whet it wee to be lowered to, what numbers would it whoa. Did they desire to swamp the ex isting franchise? The objet to be attained was ter effect some eanntermiee by which intelligence might prevail over numbers ; before they took any steps towards the 'WAWA , men of universal su ff rap, they should ten ensure mimed ' education. (Hear, hear.) If the noble lord asked a pe trol:l, he was entitled to ask a question in return, and call an him es • publio men, in the position he held, to :tate how far he was prepared to go. (Hear.) Lord Plunket bad ono, said that Time wee represented with a myth* in one head and a gloss in the other—with the scythe to mow down, bat with the glue to teconstruct. The noble lord might borrow the scythe to mow down, but had he consulted the hour-glen ?If be rejected this bill, what wee he prepared to reconstruct ? He would not then attempt to defend the government aping the attacks made oa them ; he could not forget the favour end support ho had re ceived from the house in the earlier end greater difficulties. All he woul4 say wee, that their intentions were not such es would justify the censure aimed at them for this measure of reform. t hem w ax It was quite true that the bill propoeed by them wiui not auchee hon. gentlenien below them would have given the country , if the task bad been entrusted to:le=but he would ask if Lord Derby's government had • measure such as this, would they not, whilst thefaccepted the bill, have despised the offer. (Hear, bear.) Had the government dons so, they would have gone into the enemy's camp, not with a Sag of trace and offers of compromise, bat with staadards trailing in the duet and offering the keys of every fortress entrusted to ' th charge. If such a bill as was demmded at certain meetings was required, it was for bon. gentlemenopmeite to present it, not for them. (Loud cheers.) Before the noble lord went further, let him commit the hour-glass ; before he and the noble viscount, and the hon. members for Birmingham and Sheffield eat on the treasury bench, let them determine whet they meant to give the working men. This was not a we in which they could give today and all back to-morrow the popular voice was like the grave—it cried, Give, give," but, like the grave, it never teemed what it had ones received. A great many earemens had been levelled at what wee called the principle of this bill. He might quote the words of Lord Macaulay in the debate on the last Reform Bill, that he did not care for what was the principle of a Reform Bill ; but the principle had been eteted w h ets noble friend the hetSecr ma in sp ring e. He hed stated was the backbone It was to maintain in the bands of the middle elegies that power which they had regretted, so an to render liberty pro gressive and their institutions safe; not to lower the fran chise to the level of the working cheers, but, cm th itizen to the level of the clear above. This wits the bill of the middle ciente; it went to retain the power in the hands of thet clue who bed hitherto exercised it so as to maintain the resources of Eng land unimpaired amidst the disaster' of commerce end the calamities of war. (Hear, beer.) If they accepted the amendment of the noble lord the result would be to place capital and Intelligence at the commend of ignorant necomity and uninstructed numbers. (Loud and continued cheery.) Mr. BYNG wee opposed to the bill both in principle and 'in detail. He regretted the government had let pew the golden opportunity of i ntro ducing a bill which might have eettW the question on some neuter principle which might have commanded the all but universal support of the hones. Mr. J. IL PHILIPPS said that resorting to himself the right to take whatever course he phoned, it the bill should corne before them on the questien of the second rewefeth be should vote against the resolution of the noble lord, became it tended to create an inconvenient precedent, end to prevent W 1 parliermetary jliectia.ion. Mr. C. FORSTER raid that on the previous night the noble lord the member for Stamford had done him the het i nour to refer to something which he bad recently mid to his I constituents. What he mid, or meant to say, was that is respected the bill under diecuseion there was perfect agree ment between the noble lord the member for Loudon sad the bon. member for Birmingham, end that they would be found welting into the same lobby. Asa borough member, be of course felt moot interested in the operation of the bill with re geed to the representation of the boroughs. In the town which he represented, end he believed in most towns of ire portmice, there was a freehold land society, by means of which many industrious mechanics had acquired property that gave them a vote for the county. As the bill originally stood . regarded ..,,rig :a of ooa t uosrog is f: vik elo g aboooo r. T :a h h at etoff ob ahh jec ocoo i r oo teara w o is idaco no inaf t proposal with repot to voting papers he juetice, to avoid givietif that mettles withcrut whieh preen= in in the bill of which be approved was that which pm a 101. franchise for counties ; end he hoped the house would not stultify itself by going into committee on the bill when almost everything would have to be struck oat. Like hie hon. friend the member for Middlesex, he should have preferred meeting this bill with a direst negative, but not baying the opportunity of doing that, burinid, whatever might be the ulterior consequences, vote reolution of the noble lord. Mr. STANHOPE found the principle of the measure th tretsh e . y o: wer ril e ovhbo d y. e li: p hyo ri eT v o a h: o er to c on tin ue the franchim to themselves ; and the evil was increased by he propose' to allow ge nera vanced liberals would never be Whiled. Almon the only was the assimilation of the town and county voters. If he were celled upon to affirm that es the right principle of big politiml life, he must say that he felt it wee surrounded with manifold obircns, sod however much it might diadem hint, he thould feel it hie duty to oppose that priociple. Bat at the 1 same time he never would, on any consideration give his sanction to tho sort of amendment now before the hones. Such amendments had lately become too prevalent. It was an amendment affirming nothing, end put forward with a view of catching everybody--en amendment as general, that while it took in men of all sides, it would not commit the person proposing it to my eeuras whatever — ( cheers) —an amend ment so vague that be defied anybody to say what was its real meaning. (Cheers.) It asserted that no measure which I did not lower the franchise would be satisfactory—but to I what extent ? Was it to be • 81. or • 51. franchise? Wee it t. be manhood or universal suffrage ? (Cheers.) Tbe noble bed refused to give any statement of bin views on this mat ter. (Hear, hoer.) If the noble lord and his friends ee dissatisfied with the principle of the bill, let them, ea be w had dose, msafully say so ; but de not let semi from mere per sonal motives endeavour to throw out bil by an amend meat every part of which might be introduced in com mittee. (Chasm.) _ Mr. DODSON had heard It said that they ought not to vote &safest this lAli without knowing whet umerure wee to be brought in nest. Ilia answer to that me. be voted against this bill because it was • bad bill, and should the nest bill be amine it. It meant' too much—it meant too little—it meant everything— totittter,,,iwybe s ki h a eat v o o b l r e :f t liashatatbehaetnaleonnia.edAs to the_ repo._ It meant nothing. Mr. VANSITTART had listened with coneidereble at tention to ho etpoc of hasp oble lord the member for Lon don in the hop of hearing me reasons tor the Ili/abbe:ilia amendment now und.r &emission. He had, however, heard no such reason, and to his mind the noble lord appeared to be smarting under the watt of WAXwhich attended ',his efforts in the c ause of reform in 1 854 . Mr. CROSSLEY.—A Rood deal had been s ill of the time which had been occupied by reform mad thm wore told that it had been • cabinet question ever ' siam 1831. It was said that bills had bean introduced, and had been withdrawn, end that this was the only one which they were called upon to reed a te coned time. He thought it eery possible that this bill might pass into a law, end still leave the question at reform as unsettled as it bed found it. (Hew, hear.) Who now called for reform ? It was neither the higher nor the middle dames, but those who were bit out In the bill of 1832. namely, the working classes of this ocemtry. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord the flearetery for India asked haw a mss woe to be diennguished as beloseh4 to the weeklies clam His (Mr. Crorsley's) definition was, the min who deo purled oe the labour of his hands for the bread of life. Now OM clime, he contended, had been Ws out in the bill of 18. , and that they were nee left oat is the gov. rumen, bill off 1869. (Sur, beer.) The hon. member for Doreetehior bed in the prestos, evening avowed his cenfrienoe in the work lag ewers, bat Mill, because we had failed so many Maw in passing a bill, he would vote for the second reedier of the pronto one, which he admitted to be a bad one. The Mak.. member for the game county would withh Ii the (reach's& from the working because the shoemakers in • sem min diesel had been erik against machinery, but he email draw a far different picture of the 000 duct of working WM. In they ear 1867 the firm with which he w an k. weetede n 760 manta one particular sort of hand Sinai thati Pk g the whole of the hand work bad goes out. ad now by he aid of ferm, ono men could do se much work as mks bad done erly. Now, daring this revolution in the mint of labour, whet had the working men done M neither opposed machinery, nor broke it, but on the eve all rltt aid in {Mir power to he fullest de • 1 Nr17,1- : y.' s4b 4; 0, • _E-1;1••( SS3il , l)O