The Express. — London, England, 1849-02-28 00:00:00

ezplanaties WU girth by me at the Cue. The de patches la onestion related to some apprehended &Asthma's in the ;nand of Jamaica, in come-queue of the wouopoUsta there having been disapprinted at the passing of the Sugar Bill is Ingthad. The language nail was, that several of the plan tmi en proprietors were going to transfer their allegiance to the United States. The despatches contained • statement relative to the threatened disturbances • they referred to par titular individnah by name; they embadied dorsi, how which had not been taken before th e magistrates. anc um wilco low* praved charges; and those parte which had re brews to charge' of that nature against individuals were struck out, • course which I am perfeatly mewed to defend, and to take again if necessary. (Hear, mar.) I think I have met the charge of the bon. gentlemen, and now I beg to tell him that when the committee meets there will not be the slightest chleetioa to lay before them the whole of the despatches mallet, not for the nee of the house or the public, but In order to show them that there is turbine to justify the term " mutilation," which has bummed. Wha•ever was withh,ld en a former °session was extracted simply with a view to the just proteo tion of pvivatechereeter;* and my noble friend, the Secre tary for the Colonies, would have beim unworthy the position be tolels had he scrupled to sot is be did. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BAILLIS.—WiII you ley the despatches bean the tome Mr. HAWES.—Certainly not. I will lay them before the committee, but not before the house and the public. Mr. BAILLIE.—Toes must recollect that the committee does not sit on the affairs of Jamaica, but on those of Ceylon. Mr. HAWES.—I w 1 not consent to lay them before the house and the public. Mr. OSBORNE.—Is the committee to be a secret one ? Mr. IthWES.—Certain'y not, to far as I know. (Hear, hear.) Mr. RUME.—I thenth: they were t 3 sit on the affairs of the colonies genetaily. (Loud tutee of " No, no.") Mr. BAILLIE.—They ere limited to thzee of Ceylon. CONSUL AT CALIFORNIA. Mr. WYLD inquired, amidst general laughter, whether it was the intention of her Majesty's ministers to appoint a consul at San Francisco or at say of the ports of Celif.irnia ? Lord PALMERSTON replied that this was a question which had not now bceu put to him for the first time. Rs bad had it put to him privately before, by ',me who were interested in behalf of others, =damns who were interested in their own prospects. (Laughter.) But he had no inten tion of appoindug any coned at present, because, as every boa. =maw must see, there was no form of government that hit Maw of established is California with whom • con sul amid mammunicate. He might, to be sure, communicate with the galifinders. (Loud laughter.) SREEP-STEALINO IN IRELAND. Mr. BOURKE asked whether it was the i tendon of the right her. gentleman the Secretary for Ireland to intrados any measure in the present session en the subject of sheep stealing in the sister country Sir. W. SOMERVILLE replied in the negative. .Ir. BOURKE, under t':ess circumstancv, gave notice that he would on Tuesday, the 13th of Much, move (or leave to bring is a bill for the better protection of elute and sheep in Ireland, and ear the mote speedy Ceeztion and punish ment of stvep.sunders in that country. THE WINDINOXP C OF EMBA ES. RRASSED RAILWAY OMPANI Mr. BANDARS asksd whether it was intended in the re mit smite to introduce any measure to facilitate the wind ing-up of embarrassed railway companies? Mr. LABOUCEERE believed that an act for that purpose had pulsed in a previous session. If that measure required marndenent, he would be happy to consider any suggestions which might be mods with a view to its alteration, or, It cause were shown, he would propose another measure to the house. Mr. SANDARS observed, that the act to which the tight hon. gentleman referred was for the winding-up of jafet stock &lA., and he wished to know whether her Majesty's nainist. is would extent that act to the windiog.up of Pa harassed railway companies? Mr. LAROCCIIERE bdieved that the bi:l of last session did not apply to present railway companies, but that it did app4 to future railway companies. It was prospective and not reteespoctive ; and if he found that it could be altered with advaLtage, he certainly would have no otjecti.o to do so. (Rear.) THE IRISH DEBATE. Mr. J. O'CONNELL siid el at two important objects maid be attained—that of haviog only one debate on Irish affairs, and enabling bon. memb.rs to express their view. telly with regard to the sister country—if the nob', lord at the lead of tee gov.trnreent would In Thursday. Friday, or Monday for the bringing forward of his motion relative to the first report on Irish poor laws. Lied J. RUSSELL replied that he was anxious to intro duce the motion on Thursday, bat that three other motions, of which peeks had been gwen by the hon. member for Bath (Lord A•hley), the hon. member for Cork (Mr. Fagan), and the bon. member for Nottingham (Mr. F. O'Connor), stood in the way. - - - At the suggestion of Mr. Roca', Mr. FA0421 awl Mr. O'Clotexot ensented to withdraw their notices of notion for Thursday is order that the noble lord might have precedence: Lord ASHLEY wits obligeO, nlectantly, to say that be could not cosseat to withdraw his motion, because it was of very considerable importarce, and ha had already given way to other hon. member S. LOT4/1 J. RUSL-ELL said that the noble lord the member for Bath might malts his statement on Thursday, bat that as there was no objection on the part of her Majesty's minis ters to advise the issuing of the C001112193'011 he sought for, the discussion could not last any Itt.‘gth of time, and he (Lord J. Russel') would then bring en his motion relative to the Irish poor-laws. (Hear, kw.) Yr. J. O'CONNELL, under these circumstances, con sented to withdraw his notice of motion respecting which stood on the paper for that day (Tuesday). THE RIVER PLATE. Mr. BWART asked the right hon. the Secretary for Foreign Affairs whither the negotiations were satisfac torily proceeding with a view to the settlement of affairs in the River Plate ? Lord PALMERSTON replied that he saw no reason why the settlement of these affairs should not take place, and that he trusted and hoped they would be shortly adjusted. LEGAL EXAMINATIONS AND LECTURES. Mr. SWART asked the right hon. the Attorney-Gemmel whether any steps had been taken by the ions of court, in pursues.* of the recommendations of the coneadtese ea 1 " Legal Education," to establish preliminary examdhedeMe mei kerma on the law ? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL replied that the bee et court had appointed a lecturer, and that the Middle Temple had had a lecturer of high reputation, but that his Ma= was very isdifferently attended. The teachers bad aelewled the lectures pretty well, but. generally speaking, these mesa disinclination on the part of gentlemen to avail them selves of these valuable aids to various branches of legal knowledge. (Hear.) WORKING WOMEN IN FACTORIES BY RELAYS. IlLr. 'LINDLEY asked the right hon. the Secretary 01 Stan hr the Home Department, whether it was the inten tion of her Mejary's prernment, as stated in some of the public journal', to bring in a bill to authorise the working woman and young persons in factories by relays. and U so, when it was probable the bill would be introduced ? Sir G. GREY said the hon. gentleman must be aware that various decides' had been given by magistrates on the clause in the Factory Act, and that therefore some amendment in the law must take place with respect to the particular clause in question. Her Majesty's government bad seen several parties interested in the matter, and the subject was stall under consideration. A bill was in course of preparation, but it would be unadvisable to say what its provisions were until be moved that it be hid on the table of the house. CONVICTS IN IRELAND. W. HERBERT asked whether her Majesty's government contemplated the adoption of any immediate meenres foe the removal of convicts from the gaols in Ireland ? He had received a stat , mint from his own county (Kerry), frost which it appeared diet there were at present three times the number of prisoners in the gaols that there was mean "iodation for, and that a daily immense was being made. Sir G. GREY admitted that some of the Irish gaols were mote crowded than they ought to be, but the house must know that the government had no power to remove those who were waiting for trial. The act obliged grand juries to snake sufficient provision in counties and he (Sir 0. they) had been in communication with the Lord-Lieutenant of Ire. lane on that subject. It was tuts Out several prisoners under sentence of transportation had been detained In the gaols fee a longer period than was necessary,ut that had been occasioned by the numerous sentences el transportation which had lately been passed in the sister country. Theis sentenen bad increased from 500 to 2,000 in the year, and at the last quarter sessions in Janu ary no fewer than 595 had been sentenced to transportation —a number exceeding any former occasion. The government wen doing all they could to provide increased aceommoda. titer ; a ship had been chutero I to remove some con victs to Australia and the prison depot at Spike ducal was being enlarged. (Hear.) RENEWAL OF LEASES IN IRELAND. In reply to Sir H. W. SAMSON, Sir W. SOMERVILLE said that a bill for the morel of teats In Ireland would be immed ately introduced in the House of Lords. THE RAJAH OF SATTARA. Mr. HUME moved for a return of the amount of ;tali for the maintensne t the family of the Into Pt r i a rt i = Shun, the late Rajah of Satter., since his death, and the dates oat which the payments were aide. Sir J. C. ROBROCSE said that the feirest offers hat been made with a view to providing for the widow and chit dna oldie late Rajah. but that they had been declined an less a continuous allowance were proffered to the eldest ma. Kr. G. THOMPSON hoped tbe government would bring the dame of the family to a speedy settlement. Sir J. 8000 said there was every disposition on the part of the Omit of' Dfrectus ant the lwr.l government to do what wee sight and proper is the matter. Mr. HUME reminded the hoe. gentleman that the inter of the Coast of D:reetra wes dated so far back as June, 1 sad meantime the family wen starving. a taw words in reply from Sir J. Noon, the motion 11115 spiel te. SALARIES, PENSIONS, he. Mr. HUME maned for • Ow e alehatene , ily anantal, of a' perms in Esarase rewlytee awattea pwisea, t e r t6ma rettat , snatinwen, atiosnasut user Meat& nem Jaw. SUN and Sth We, tei• the ✓eiregetaimmiiitleeda NW SWAIN the sepal =emu sessimil by sails ma an Nona from will* the gems wrote me awn she algripte al the whale. Ft agar Mara if tie aarreetatitmo k arrant, If W., awl net man& W mm Waillit he Ow twe bus 'wry poem Is Weal the melee at 301. sad rewards from those sod from 611 other emus al stahas mow (Mesbarel exespted.. Moo, tiro 'MUM WA er Weettimi awl trelmod. Ho meld net maceive that there could be any objeet'on to these returns ; but if the loose would give him a committee ho wield undertake to mate the returns himself for 101. (" Haar," and laughter.) It was meet essential that the nation should know -h ow its money was expended, and with that view he submitted the present incelou, Mr. PARKER said the only objection to such a return was, the great trouble and outlay of public money which it would occasion. In 1836 and '44, returns of a somewhat similar character had teen ordersd, and occupied from fifty I to sixty minted pmes. The second return, in particular, would be wry extensive. Mr. HUME said he did not wish to do aaytbing which would wagon unnecessary trouble. A similar return had been ordered on the motion of the hou. member for Fina -1 bury, in 1847, but bad n been made. He would, how -1 ever, postpone his motion for two or three days, in the hope that ministers might then be dispose to accede to it, if it could conveniently be granted. Lord J. RUSSELL said there was no objection in prin ciple to this return; but the question was, whether there would be any public advantage at all equal either to the trouble or the expense of making out any great number of pages of names. But if the bon. gentleman would postpone hie motion for a few days, be would endeavour to ascertain whether it could be agreed to without incurring a great ex pense. Mr. HUME said he would postpone the motion till Friday, in Me hope that it would then be agreed to as an unopposed return. CEYLON AND BRITISH GUIANA. . Mr. BAILLIB nominated the following as members of the select committee on grimaces in the colonies of Ceylon and British Ouhuni—Mr. Home, Bir J. Wslmsley, Sir H. Peel, Sir J. H ogg, Ms. o:adstone, Mr. C. Wien, Mr. Disraeli, Mr. Hawes, Mr. Adderley, Mr. Wilson, Mr. B. Wortley, Lord Hotham, Mr. &tithe, Mr. M'Cullagh, and Major Dia r ekall.—agreed to. THE REBELLION IN THE PUNJIXB. Mr. G. THOMPSON moved, " That, in reference to that part of her Majesty's gracious speech i nforming her pthlia. went that • rebellion had broken out in the Punjanb, an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that she will be pleased to direct all paper relating to an event of this domestic and importuit character to be laid before the hones without further delay." The hon. gentleman ex premed his belief that these jivers might be laid before the house without any injury to the public service. At present there wee no authentic Information in the possession of the public as to the oases of the war guiog on in the Punjaub. He would not press the motion against the wish of minister, but hoped they would see the dzeirablene a of laying the papers befure the house as soca as possible. Sir J. C. HOBBOUSE said he was exceedingly glad that the hon. member had taken the very discreet ;I.nm of not pressing this motion. Had it been pressed he s is euld have felt it impossible, in the situation he held, to cot sent to the production of all the papers. The hon. gentleman himself admitted that there were some, the production of which might be prejudicial to the public interest, and he could assure the hun. gentleman and the house th at there would be no delay in printing any that were necessary for the pub lic information. If the subject of the proceedings in the Punjaub were brought under discussion at the proper time, after the papers were given, he doubted not that the hon. gentleman and the house would absolve the Indian govern ment altogether from any improper conduct in this matter. (Hear, hear.) He could not quite agree with the hon. mem ber as to the state of ignorance of the house relative to the eausesef this war. The public newspapers had given a very fair account of the outbreak and its causes, and nearly all the transactions of importance that had occurred had been de tailed with considerable fidelity. He was certain that, when the proper time come, the Governnr-General and the Indian government would be absolved from all blame, and it would be found that they had taken the only- course they c - uld take consistent with the security and honour of the British empire in India. (Hear.) - - - - Mr. OSBORNE said, he wished to press on the right hon. gentleman the necessity of pro.incing the despatch of Sir Joseph Tasekwell, whic h he believed was in the handset the goveiament. Sir J. C. HOBHOTJSE said he believed that despatch was a letter written by Sir Joseph Toackwell to the Governor- General. He knew there was such a document, but he thought it bad not yet bees forwarded to the home mithori tim. He knew it had been alluded to, bat he would not say for certain that it hadmiateover. However, he would make ingairy, sad let the hon. gentleman know the result ; and afterwards, if it were shown that there were special circa's'. stances making the production of that paper desirable, and if he (Sir John) toned that there was no objection to giving It, he would do so. Mr. G. THOMPSON said the papers relating to the operationsmili tatary in Seeds had been laid before the house le the army was still in motion. The motion was then withdrawn. BUCKINOHAM SUMMER ASSIZES BILL. - • • Mr. DUPRE, in moving the second retd.og of this bill, said the object of it was simply to place the county of Buckingham on the same footing with every county in the kingdom, and to allow of the aesizes being held In the meet convenient place in the county. For a century past, an act, obtained by family influence, had been kept on the statute book, which prevented the assizes being held elsewhere than at Buckingham, though that was detrimental to the interests of the majority of the inhabitants. 'The measure now be fore the house, fur holding the assizes at Aylesbury, was banded on petitions numerously signed, emanating from the to and other influential inhabitants. Any one at the map of the county must be convinced of the coe " ;;Zeituation of Aylesbury. The Chief Boron had ex pressed himself decidedly in favour of the change. This bill, however, did not necessarily authorise the removal of the assess, but merely enabled the county to bring the case before the Privy Council, under the set of Wm. llf. The Marquis of CHANDOS said he did not think his hon. friend had alleged sufficient grounds to justify the house in assenting to the bill. He doubted whether it would be for the benefit of the whole county of Bucking ham. When the question was brought before the magis trates in July, 1847, there was a division of three to one it. The subject was again brought forward at the ed sessions, and amongst the magistrates who voted against it was his hon. friend. It was not a question between Aylesbury and Buckingham, but a qiustion between the two extremes of the county. He o pposed the measure, because it was not in accordance Irma the opinion of the magistrates in the north of the county ; and he would, therefore, move that it be read a second time that day six nsonths. Sir G. GREY ho2sd that the noble lord would not press his anseadoest. The bill would not neceuarily hare the result which she noble lord seemed to contemplate. The plies of bolding the sakes would not necessarily be chested. The bill merely placed the coun:y of Buckingham in the same position as the other aunties of England, with re gut to which the Queen In council had posessesd the pews of elssagingthe place of holding arise. That was a pewee whits k aught be desirable to exercise sometimes. TL seassilment was then withdrawn, and the bill road a secs* doh The hawse adjourned at half-put 7 o'clock. THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 28, 1849. marched to the Indus, the Prince DI .ThEIVILLE not scuttled our fleet off Bpitheasl, the Americans not made a foray across the Columbia, it is all owing to the little additional five thousand that successive ministers have been adding each year to oar fight ing men. Now, does the Than or can its political patrons soberly suppose, that augmentations of fives or tens of thousands ever deterred Russia from an enterprise ? If Russia ever meditated& warlike advance they may depend upon it that what she would look to would not be the numbers on our army or navy list'-our number of admirals, generals, seamen, or soldiers — but our finances, our deficit, our hold of Ireland, our relations with France and with America. In these lie our means of deterring enemies • these are our capabilities for war, and not our act ual readiness. It is a well-known fact that when we were in dispute with the Americans about the Oregon, and when we raised our forces and expenditure in con sequence, the American government were strongly pressed by tho war party to do the same. But the American minister said "No; we shall insist on our rights, and not waive one half-inch of territory for British armament; depend upon it the Brit sh will argue the same respec t i ng us." And it turned out that the American minister was right. England got no better terms for all her augmenta tion of force, and America no worse for magnani mously trusting to her strength in paws., and not adding a gun or a soldier to her estimates. Our actual army is too small to terrify any foreign power. Our military force consists in their eyes of our capability, not of what actually is. An army of 80,000 English is quite as formidable as one of 113,000. As to the navy, that is a force that always consists of capability ; hulls of vessels, stores, guns and sailors constitute a navy. Oar trade will sup pmt the last, and the rest may be piled safely at home. We never ran any . risk of naval war since 1815 save upon one occasion, and that was when the French admiral hadafar superior force to us inlB4o in the Medi terranean, his ships being more numerous and better manned. He was for a moment tempted to attack, but he thought better of it. It was not the actual fleet of England that deferral him, but the capability of England to rats= facet af:er fleet, and infallibly sweep the Frenchmen, even if victorious, from the Ind If the principles of our domestic, foreign, and colonial policy be what the Times would have them, those of intimidation, we must own that we thick our army and navy quite insufficient, and that in lien of eighteen millions, we should spend forty upon security and might. But we disbelieve the principle altogether, and think that as forty millions are im possible to spend for any such necessity, so eighteen millions are thrown away as badly between the two principles. Instead of going the length of intimidation, we only proceed so far as provocation. We administer Ireland, ar.d we negotiate abroad, on the strength of our bayonets. Had we less force, we may depend upon it that our rulers and diplomatists would apply more wisdom, and that we should find the latter more efficient and more cheap. But we fear that the Tim's, even in this, overrates the respectability of motives. The nation may sanction the military expenditure on the ground that such intimidation is necessary, but who can teed Mr. GIBBON'S analysis of our navy list and navy expenditure without being convinced that the estimates are swelled rather to feed the " uneasy classes" at home than to intimidate the tur bulent ones either at home or abroad ? We cannot imagine how Lords of the Admiral can meet after reading such a speech as Mr. Chinos's, without shaking their beads like Clem's two Augurs, and laughing in each other's faces. If Mr.Gtesos exposed the humbugof the naval esta blishments, Mr. BRIGHT showed the flimsiness of the pretexts for increased expenditure in the extension of trade. Have not the Americans doubled their lice of sea-board without adding a sloop to their nary ? Are not their merchants as secure from insult or plunder as our own? Does not their absence of financial debt give them more strength in the eyes of the world than oar great navy, paid by the creation of a yearly deficit ? I Have they not managed to have a fleet without a batch of admirals, costing more than the seamen ? And has not their army conquered an empire without colonels of either supernumerary rank or clothing emoluments? Moreover, is there a nation that so fully inspires a salutary awe of offending it, not by numbers of bayonets or ships, but by the manifest capacity of having any amount of either that necessity may re quire ? Such ought to be English policy—and would but for the predominance of the aristocratic and expen sive element—to hoard and cherish the means and ca pabilities of putting forth strength, by decreasing the actualities, and economising the resources spent upon provocation and parade. Tax cue of the subordinate airier, in the landing department of the customs is not an isolated or excep tional one. The effect of Treasury patronage, upon the position of subordinates and the general efficiency of the civil service, is no doubt felt with more or less irksomeness in all departments. A petition was pre sented to the House of Commons on Monday evening by Mr. WILLIAMS, the member for Macclesfield, which will, it is to be hoped, have the effect of lead beg to an investigation as to how matters stand in this respect in the Post-office. The statements in the petition referred to can of course only be received as exports: they are not conclusive against the esta blishment in general, or the heads of the department in particular. Bat, added to what has transpired ken time to time respecting the Post-office, they .ctr s tainlytible. seem to render an appeal for inquiry irre is Mr. SANDERS (the petitioner) was for mine time =eyed in the money-order department of the Post* His story is—and at the present stage of the = we give it merely am his story—that having simit deal of irregularity and mismanage ment k that department, he ventured to present a memorial or representation to the Postmaster-General on the sallied. He suggested arrangements by means of which it appeared to him the department might be rendered more efficient, and a considerable saving to the public made at the same time. In this representa tion it so happened that he was called upon, or imagined himself called upon, to state some com plaints against the superintendent of his of fice. According to Mr. SANDERS, his suggestions were passed over with contemptuous 'silence ; but for complaining of hie superior officer he was sharply re buked, and ordered to apologise to that gentleman, without an opportunity being afforded him to make good his charges. Rather than do this he tendered his resignation, which was immediately accepted, and he now tries the experiment whether parliament be as deaf to hie representations as the Postmaster- General. Oar comment on the personal dispute involved in this story shall be brief. Nothing is more possible than that an inferior may complain of his superior from improper motives and on inadequate grounds. Every inferior bringing a charge against a superior must be prepared to struggle against a prepossession to this effect. He makes his ac cusation, aware of this circumstance, aud pe rils his place upon his ability to substantiate it. If he fait to make good his accusation, he has no reason to complain, should he be required to make a most humble apoloxy, or should he even be dismissed. But if Mr. SANDERS state the truth, when he says that he was called upon to apologise without being previously called upon to substantiate his charge, he (and the public too) have had a scanty allow ance of justice administered. Superiors in office are , entitled to be guarded against the malevolence, or even petulance, of inferiors ; but inferiors are MA to be condemned without trial for advancing charges against superiors, inasmuch as to have withheld these charges, assuming them to be well founded, would have been to pa rticipate in the delinquency, com plained of The right of an inferior to complain, if oppressed, it would be waste of words to argue in support of—it is so self-evident. But be the personal cue of Mr. SANDERS what it will, the representations which he made unavailingly to the Postmaster-General, and which he now repeats to the House of Commons, ought, in justice to ete, tax ' paying public, to be listened to. Coming from any source, they demand attention. Mr. SANDERS states in his petition that within the space of ten years no less than six different methods of keeping the itccouuts of th, mor.ey order dtp..rt ment have been tried, but that the recommendation of the Lords of the Treasury to adopt a method of book-keepioo by , double entry has been uniformly dis regarded amid ad these choppings andchanger. None of Vie Orprassi. The mai fix Madeira. thSea. eM Baena@ AMIN wll te made up this main. the Feb. The nella lee New Posta baba. Van Diensit's Iced. and Few Wirt will 1. matey this mann/. the Nth Feb. Ns grub bibs MOB, betadlag Debate. Ravenna. Name, New Orlon; sad bubo, sad redviang Om be 61 111=1, L inibdsbieregas. Neer Granada. and will bomb ep ea the Neerg et the Tod el Nereh. Chill. Penh The Mill be the Wait Cart el Abbe and Nabobs will be Nude ep ea the swabs et the int Nen& The IND, lee Mee. Owe% Man. Madeira. OW* sad Ofbeslter MO he male opea the seehleg etas 7th Marsh. The =Mk Ora lbeisMos. as the llethwersera, ef99t. Adam. =lnd* Hood-s, be. via be sate op ea the sverdas tit Needs The oath be NAY Nee* Awatts k r e. the United States, wl it to math op cm Se walks ettb• 9111 Its mile be 011ysiter, NYAti4l/em i the baba blends Egyp Ite t, Adea.made op as Gaylen, the etot at IleapKtap. Otk. IN/ nouthantrtea, ww hlar the ile:e. ZION WATZ AT LONDON 11111:001. Ter M. —Menvlag.ii Ws. pre Enemies. at =la. pad Te-Monanw —7llenthag. 4 Ws. FM 8; Allinemajf Ms. pot a. LONDON,WEDNESDAY,FEB.2B Ws are perplexed to find a frank and out-and-out opponent of Mr. COBDEN'S amendment for an effec tive seduction of the national expenditure. Mr. HIBUSS cow plained of political agitation, and argued, WI yam& length, that the French government had km especially of late, a most expensive one. But what had all this to sae to the question ? As to the CHANCELLOR or THE EXCHEQUER, however his con clusions went against the amendment, his argu ments were rather for it. He fully admitted the psi& colour end tendency of the epoch; he ad mitted, Mr. Minxes GIBBON showed, that the great 'screen of expenditure had been on works temporary sad provisio• al, and for motives which had passed away. And he plainly hinted that if he clung to the expenditure of 1845 rather than to that of 1833, it was because the majority of the House of Commons had its own reasons for preferring the former. As to the Peelites, they se usual were dumb, and, great financial reformers as their organ pretends them to be, neither they nor it had a word to say upon the national question. For a thorough-going champion of expenditure, therefore, we are obliged to look to the Times. It, at least, proclaims the old Cutlareagh tenets, which whigedisown, whic4 Peelites shrink from, and which ova protectionists are reluctant to espouse. The 1T.., boldly end plainly recemmenda the system st government by intimidation. In this great empire, sad in the vast machine, social and political, which wank and flourishes around tun the Tlmes beholds bat aoe spring, one mese of vitality and safety. If parliament is not hustled by the radicals and eaten op by the chartists, it is all owing to the horse, fo.rt, and dragoons. If our colonies are still loyal it is due to our " wielding the sabre and bayonet" as the met efficacious a weapons. If Russia has not the various systems tried in succession have afforded an adequate cheek upon inacenracies, wilful Or accidental, and Mr. SANDERS affirms that many thousands have in ence been lost to the public revenue. There was no ger kept, it is averred, to prove the s epara te amount of transactions with each deputy, and hence large sums have been left standing agamst the names of several deputies foe seven or eight years. It is further stated that, owing to the confused and complicated state of the accounts, it is impossible to ascertain with accuracy the amount of assets and liabilities. These allegations can be proved or disproved by an inspection of the books ; and see ing that they have been deliberately and publicly made, we cannot see how the House of Commons can refuse, consistently with the duty it owes the public, to cause these books to be inspected and re ported upon by competent parties unconnected with the office. It is clear that, if Mr. SANDERS tell the truth, the returns which have been made to parliament from time to time by the department are entirely worthless • and it is equally clear that, until the charges now Lade ate refuted, or the abuses reformed, the public can have no confidence in this important branch of the public service. In another part of his petition Mr. SANDERS states that, during the time he held his appointment in the money-order office, the number of clerks amounted to 240 (besides messengers), and the number of expen sive books to about 200. He undertakes to prove that the adoption of the double-entry system of book-keep log would, in addition to its preventing the recurrence of many discreditable blunders which have been com mitted, enable the business of the office to be trans acted by t eenty-two clerks, and about the same num ber of messengers now employed, and would render a diminution of 20,0001. in the annual expenses of the department easily pi actioable. I = The petition contains also some minor charges against the department, such as oppression of info tiers by those placed over them, suspiciously large consumption of stationery, and other irregularities. The suspicion which most continue to bang over the money-office department while charges like these continue unrelated can only be dispelled by a full, impartial, and public investigation. It was previously well knorn that the expenses of the department were great, and something more than suspi cion prevails respecting the antagonism to Mr. ROWLAND HILL which exists among the heads of the Poet-office department, and the cm-equent dif ficulty he has experienced in realising his plans for adding to the utility and efficiency of that establish meat. In these circumstances, inquiry is impera tively called for. On Wednesday last returns were ordered, on the motion of Lord SEYMOUR, of the number and amount of money orders issued and paid daring the year ending January, 1840 ; and of the expense of the Money Order-of oe and the amount received for commission during duet year. What faith can be reposed in these returns ? what useful action can be based upon them, while the charges we have enumerated remain uncontradicted by trust worthy evidsnoe ? Vbe Court. The Queen and Prince Albert took a carriage drive yesterday, and visited the Queen Dowager, at the Priory, Stamm. Her lkflps•y and hu Royal Highness were attended brLady Portman, Colonel the Hon. C. Grey, and Colonel Seymour. The royal dinner party at Buckingham Palace yes terday included the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Count fichimmelpenninek, the Netherlands minister; Count Col loredo, the Austrian minister ; the Archbishop of Canter bury, Lady Augusta Cadogan , lady in waiting on the Duchess cf Cambridge ; the Marquis and Marchioness of Salisbury, the Marquis of Anglesey and Lady Adelaide Paget, Viscount and Viseounters Mahon, Lord and Lady Eddisbury, Lord G. Lennox, and Mr. E. Mildmay, equerry in waiting on the Duke of Cambridge. Her Majesty's private band was in attendance at Buckingham Palace on Monday evening, and played the following pieces : Overtore—..Haydite" Aube,. Quartatto—.. It Turco in Delia," RosainL Blntonla (No. 9) A deputation of 80 gentlemen, headed by Mr. Hodges, M.P. f,r West Kent, had an interview respecting the hop duty with Lord John Rowell and the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday at the official residence of the noble lord in Downing-street. A deputation, consistirg of the Rev. F. Kitchin (Stone), the Rev. J. Livesey (Sheffield), and the Rev. F. Wade (Kidagrove, Stafford), bad an interview with Sir G. Grey yesterday at the Home-office. The Brazilian minister transacted business yester day at the Foreign-office. The Chevalier Bunten had an interview with Lord John Russell yesterday. The Earl of liarrowby had an interview with Earl Grey yesterday at the Colonial-office. Lord Burlington had an interview yesterday with Sir George Grey. Sir William clay and Mr. Rumbold had also interviews yesterday with the right hon. baronet. A deputation consisting of Mr. C. B. Adderley, N P., Lord Braekley, M.P., Lord Lewisham, M.P., Mr. Joseph Napier, hI.P., the Rev. F. Wade, the Rev. J. Linsey, the Hey. J. 8n d, and the Rev. F. Kitchin, had an Interview yesterday with Lord John Russell. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had a parliamen tary dinner party yesterday at his official residence in Down- ing-street. The compsny included Lord Dudley Stuart, Lord Duncan, Sir William Somerville, Mr. John Elliott, Mr. Reynolds, Sir IL Ferguson, Mr. C. Clemente, Mr. Moffatt, Sir P. Nugent, Mr. Hod g es , Mr. Fo x. Mr. McGee metWilliam Clay, Lord Nugent, Mr. McCullagh, Lord Hill, and Mr. Rios. Despatches were received yesterday at the Colonial office from the Governor of Ceylon. The Marchioness of Lansdowne had an evening party yesterday at Lanadowne-house. (From last night's Gazette.) BT. JAMES'S-PALACE, FEB. 22.—The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of Knighthood upon George Anderson, Eq (Jovernor of the Mauritius. FOILEION.OFFICE, FEE. 24.—The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. Christian Ludwig Meyer, as Con sul, at Port Adelaide, in South Australia, for his Majesty the King of Hanover. Caown-Orncs, FEE. 26.—Member returned to serve in this present parliament—For the eeunty of Done gal : Thomas Cnnelly, of CUS' in the said county, Big , in the room of E. M. Conolly, Esq., deemed. COMMITTEE OF THE COMMONS ON THE IRISH POOR LAW. The committee was engaged the whole of yesterday examining Mr. Power, assistant poor-law commies' loner in Ireland. An honourable member of the committee took up an hour and a half examining Mr. Power on matters compa ratively unimportant, if not, indeed, irrelevant. In reply to some questions pat by . Mr. Moneell, Mr. Power stated that it was his decided *pin= that power should be given to sell the land for the TIP" and also that to excuse the payment of rates would be most inadvisable and pernicious. Mr. Power's examination was not concluded when the committee adjourned, but to-morrow (when they sit again) Mr. Griffiths, one of the commiaioners of the Board ' of Works, is to be examined. This gentleman has been sum moned to give evidence respecting the Tannins= of property on which the rates are laid. Mr. Griffiths is wanted in Ire land, and therefore his evidence is to be taken rather out of order, and as intercalary to the examination of another witness. _ . • The tendency of some of the evidence already taken by this committee is rather to weaken than rxengthen several of the views entertained by government. Irqm the rambling and episodical style in which many of the members examine, it may fairly b., doubted whethcrmuch profit will be derived from their labours. IRISH WASTE LAND IMPROVEMENT SOCIETY. Yesterday, at 1 o'clock, the lalf-yearly meeting of this society took place at the Ring's Head, Poultry. J. Heathcoat, Esq., M.P., ia the chair. The SECRE TARY read the general report, with which was incorporated that of Col. Rubinson, the managing director. It stated that the directors regretted the dircou raging circumstances under which they appeared before the proprietors. At a special general meetingheld in July, 1547, a resolution was passed to enable the directors to carry out the affairs c ( the company, and at the close of the hot year, a treaty with the government for a loan was brought to a con- elusion by an adesnee from the Treasury of 1,5001., to be paid to the society by instalments. It appeared upon the occasion of the last pall that there remained due from the defaulters, 1,6101., minus 701. which was paid into the Bank yesterday. The result of the estimated payments and re ceipts for the half year ending 31st Dec., 1848, showed that the balance o'ctsh in hard amounted to 981. 16s. 9d., and the balance of assets to 14,5501. 15s. 10d. The report of Co'onel Robinson stated that the directors had adopted every means in their power to carry out the ob jects of the society, but that the distressful condition of the country had prev.'r.ted their aidzavoure from being attended with rehab!' results. Mr. MORRIS said he had received various letters from shareboVers in Ireland, which would afford a better oppor tunity of judging of the state of the society's property than could he derived from people who resided in London. These letters concurred in the opinion that the exist riment of the Irish Wen, Land Improvement Society had proved an utter and hopeless filar —that it would be useless to embark any further sums in the undertaking, and that the sooner steps were taken for winding up the concern the better. The CHAIRMAN said he quite concurred in what had boon stated by Mr. Morris. The directors had no desire to set ags'os* the feelie r and wishes of the proprietary, bat the question was whether a hasty and precipitate decision would not be otherwise than conducive to the interests of I the society. After some further discussion, which showed th at the directors and shareholders agr eed In one opinion, that inasmuch se the society had been in existence 13 years, and no dividend had ever yet been declared, it was expedient to consider the propriety of putting an end to the concern. A resolution passed in July, 1847, was read to prove that ro reckless expenditure had been sanctioned by the directors, but that every economy had been exercised in carrying out the objects of the society. The general report was then received, and a resolution passed, to the effect " that a committee, consisting of three members, be associated with the directors, and authorised to take the moat expedient measures for winding up the affair, of the society." The members to form the committee were duly appointed, and the meeting separated. RI7MOI7RED Loss OF H.M.S. ST. VINCENT.—A let ter from Toulon, of the 23rd inst. (says an evenin,epaper of last night) mentions a report of the less of the British ship oethenline, St. Vincent, off Tangier, bearing the fiagof Ad • miral Napier. inquiries have been made at the Admiralty, and we learn that there is no truth in the report. THE BIRTHS AND DEATHS IN LONDON during the week ending Saturday last, were t—Births, 1,490 ; deader, 1,191. The deaths are 22 above the average, but thew a small decrease on the previous we , k. The rate of mortality from diseases of the respiratory organs is the same as on the avenge has prevailed in five previous winters ; for though, as was observed last week, the deaths from bronchitis are 118, or 40 above the average, thou from pneumonia are 88, or 15 below it. But zymotte diseases continue to show a greet except; they were fatal to 100 persons more than died weekly in the previous years, the prevailing epidemics being hoop- Ing-oorgh, scarlatina, diarrhceo, and cholera. Hooping ceugh, which carries off the young as bronchitis the old, caused 76 deaths, or 34 more than the average ; scarlatina 60, or 18 above the average. It is remarked that the caws in which death followed from effusion consequent on scarla tina an considerably fewer, relatively, than when the epidemic was at its height. The mortality from measles is at present low; that from small-pox is aear the avenge. Four persons died of intemperance, on one of whom an in quest was held; 6 died of delirium tremens, which is in many cases the result of intemperance. A bey of 16 is err tilled to have died of " starvation after an attack of small pox " (no inquest). A woman died in Lambeth at the ad vanced age of 100 years from ulceration of the throat, after an eine= of two months. Of the 40 deaths from chtdera, 10 occurred at the Female Refuge fertile Destitute in Shore ditch, and 16 at Warburton's Lunatic Asylum in Bethnel • green. The barometer was highest on Sunday, having been 30.333, and lowest on Saturday, when it fell to 29 520. The mean temperature of the wepkwu 4.5 deg. 4 mm. AN , 7 1.-- 401 REF° FIN RM. OREAT/tETING 174 MARYLEBONE. A meeting , the pariehie ners of Marylebone was held yesterday In the school-nom of the workhouse, New. toad, for the purpose of devisinee and adopter* means for effecting a financial re form. The room, uhf nis capable of holding several hundreds, was denaely crowded. Mr. HUME, M.P., on being tilled upon to take the chair, said they were met that day for an object of the great est importance. (Hear, hear.) Indeed, no question was more likely to occupy the minds of the people then one which affected their pccketa ; and the question they had now to consider arose out of the facts that the present taxation of the country was excessive ; the mode in which the money was collected war unjust, and the manner in which it was applied improper For these three remons every man, whether an elector or not, was Interested in the question of financial reform. (Hear, hear.) But it was the poor man who had the greatest interest in It. The wealthy man could well efford to ley aside out of his abundance enough to pay the taxes demanded of him, but the poet man who earned by the sweat of his bow a bare sufficiency for the support of himself and family, could not pay taxes without privation and perhaps suffering. (Hear, hear.) It was upon that ground that a general de mand was now being made—late he admitted—for a re duction of those taxes and national expenses which the people had too long borne. The result of the previous night'. debate was that a once reforming ministry succeeded in &stewing Mr. Cobden% motion for diminishing the expenditure of the country to the standard of 1835 by a majority of 275 to 78, showing that, at present, out of 353 members there were but 80 reformers, Mr. Cobden and him self to be counted as tellers, completing the nimher. That vote, under the present difficulties and distresses of the coun try, showed a great disregard to the feelings the wishes, and the wants of the people. (Hear, hear .) It therefore be hoved the parishioaers of Marylebone to take their share in advocating and demanding those reforms which were not only reasonable and just, but which could be essay effected, and ought to be effected. He had been a reformer for a good many yeare. Ever since the war—that was to say, since 1317 to the present—he had invariably maintained that, when we were at peace we ought to enjoy the blessings of peace—(hear, bear)—that the war expenditure should be reduced, the taxes lessened, and the means of living thereby rendered more easy and cheap. The establishment of 1792 was a peace establishment, and was fixed by Mr. Pitt and his colleagues. He held in his bud an abstract of the ac counts of 1788, 1789, and 1790, from which it appeared that the actual receipts of the revenue were 16,000,0001., which was ' declared by Mr. Pitt to be a proper peace establi.hmeut And what did he do with that 16,000,0001. ? With 9,500,0001. he paid the interest of the national debt, and 5,500,0001. went for the civil service, the army, navy. ordnance, and colonies, making 15,000,0001., being the total expense of tee country of that day, and the other 1,000,0001. be applied to pay off the national debt. If it had been applied since, we should now be relieved from a vast portion of that debt. The reason he carried them back to that period was important. War was agminst the French, solely to prevent the spread of reform opinions in England, and to stifle the demands of the people, who bad then become very intelligent both in this metropolis and in Edinburgh. The abominable measures taken in Scotland to put down public feeling were well known to them. He had had an opportunity of explaining them before. (A voice—" The habeas corpus ") The expenditure of the country was now about 59,000,0001., including the expense of collection. Last year we were not able to raise that amount, and borrowed 2,600,000/. to make up the deficiency. Now Mr. Cobden's cb int was to bring back the expenditure to what It was in 1834, 5, 8, being in round numbers 44,000,0001., while the expenditure last year was 54,185,0001., and, aiding to that the expenses of collection, 4,727,0001. the total expenditure wa558912,6021., exclusive of 8,000,0001. to Ireland. If the expenditure of 1835 sufficed ter all our establishments and maintained es in perfect security, he contended that we were now in a condition to return, and ought to return, to that mandate, which would leave a sur plus of 10,000,0001. With that sum they could see their way to the reduction or removal of the window tax, the malt duties, and the tax upon paper, soap, and bricks, all of which interfered with the industry and wants of the community. It was important they should not be misunderstood—there were spies present no doubt, and be hoped they would carry home to their masters what those who spoke did say. On a motien of his (Mr. Hume's) in June, 1821, in the House of Commons, it was re solved that an address be presented to his Majesty to effect a reduction in the army and all the military establishments to what they were in 1797. What was their state then (in 1821) and now? We had then (1821) 81,000 men belonging to the army, and yet the House of Commons, tories, whips, end radicals—there were sot many radicals—all concurred in voting that address to the crown. Now the very men who voted with him (Mr. Hume) on that motion voted against Mr. Cobden's motion last night. (Cries of "Shame.") And yet we had then (1821) only 81,300 troops of the line, with a navy and ordnance small in proportion, whereas this year we hod 113,000 sal dins, exclusive of pensioners and others andnotwithstanding that thou men refused to agree toaresolution fee their reduc tion, al-hough they voted for a reduction when the establish meat was only 81,000. He would not cast blame on this or that ministry ; he blamed the House of Commons for this. Hear.) The constitution of that house was such, that the neat injury done to the people by taxation could be clearly traced to it, and it was their duty to demand its reform. He recommended every one to read Idr. Cobden's speech of the previous night, wherein he showed how the expenditure had been increased ence 1835, the causes which led to the addi tions that were made to the army and nave, ani the removal of these causes since, notwitstandieg which the same esta blishments were maintained, contrary to the wishes of the people or the requirements of the nation. (Hear, hear.) Mr. W. WILLIAMS (late M P. for Coventry) moved the first resolution. They were assembled, he said, that day to endeavour by vigorous and peaceable means to ebtsin a re duction of the vast amount of our increased public. expen diture, and a more just equalisation of that taxation which wee now mainly levied on the necessaries of life, and which was most oppressively and severely felt by every branch of our manufactures and trades, and still more so by every clan of the labouring population. (Hear, hear.) To obtain this change, which ought to have been one of the results of the Reform Bill, it was now proposed that there should be a fur ther reform in parliament. In his opinion, that was the only means by which their object could be attained. Others might think differently ; but, after a long experience in the House of Commons, he felt *envie& d that there was no hope, whatever stir might be made out of doors, 18r a diminution of our burdens, until a further reform was effected in that home. (Hear, hear.) They were told that the Reform Bill would obtain for the country good and cheap govern ment. But was it so? They had waited now some sixteen years most patiently for the fulfilment of those promises which were made by Lord Grey and Lord John Russell— (hisses)—when they introduced the measure; but in vain hod they done so, for esery suceneive year had only in creased their disappointment, and plunge-I the country deeper in extravagant and wasteful expenditure. Let him for a moment go back to the old borougbmongering palia ment, and contrast it with the reformed parliament. The expenditure of 1830, under the Duke of Wellington's go vernment, was 76 millions lens than last year. The duke, in his three years of premiership-1828-9, end '3o—reduced the expenditure 4,300,0001. Lord Grey, in the three years of 1832.3 and 4, reduced it 2,800,0001. Sir Robert Peel, in 183-5, reduced it 400,000!. So that the whole effect of the Reform Bill of 1832 was the reduction of 3,200,0001. Lord Melbourne increased the expenditure in 1836 by 2,000,0001. ; and an increase had taken place ever since, one year ex cepted, till it reached upwards of 10,000,0001., being full 8,000,0001. over that of the Duke of Welling ton and an unreformed parliament, and more than 10.500.0001. over Sir Robert Peel's estimates of 1835 . . More than 4,500,0001. was taken from the pockets of the peop'e and from the revenue, for collecting it. (Cries of @borne ) The cost ef collection last year was nearly 500,000/. more than in 1835. When throe molts of the reform bill were known, he asked wall thoro a man amourt commenced them who could say that he hod any hopes of a ch the so-called reformed parliament. (Cries of "No o ) f ; c411 ,.. army and navy in this year was 35,000 more then 1833 under the Duke of Wellingtsn's administration; addle( which the embo tied pensioners, trained deckyardrcensh.- coast-guard, and the increase el the Irish poree, in eh X* there appeared on increase over the Duke f establishment of 74,000 men, and an inereued copeck.; et 2i millions ; and more than Sir R. Peel's estimag ak — h , 11335, of 83,300, men—including the above auxiliariai" and au increased expenditure of 4,750,000/, ; b ehui the Irish police, which cost half a million per mein. What was this waited for ? It c ou ld not b e for keepias-Q a foreign foe. No, it was to keep up this extraystaili R. panditure which impoverished the peo;•le—it waa, hi free paying for being governed by the Russells, the o:eys, Eliot'. (A voice, " And the parsons." A laugh.) 1,1 addition to this, they had a body of 8,500 police Su dilteregt parts of the country—more than half of whom beings) th the metropolis; and these men were armed in any Way the government thought fit. A few months ago the pelle t o f Marylebane were to be teen with horrible machines by side, the front edge capable of cuttin,-; like a sword. the)** being rugged like a sew. (A voice—" Not fit t r the ps i . Indians.") (Laughter.) The committee Who Fat hit esesion on the subject of the finances reeemms r ( l e d s , t h etiot of 370,0001. (Laughter.) Tho Timer, speaking of oar med ia said that our ships were buil six times over, and to the expense of the dockyards he should certebily siva spoke the truth. The expenditure in the dockyards slag 1816, under the beads of officers' salaries, aritierrs, ni lahourers' wages, and for timber and other stows, wise) millions, for wt ich there ought to he something ta skce and during the same period 8,900,0001, was extended is isa proving and enlarging the dockyards. lie much ticubtedu the vast mercantile marine of this country csst 52,500,000 1 . in the construction of her ships sicee 1816. And y tt this estimate did not include fortificati on . gas, &c., which was all done l y the O'Meara& Surely reform was necessary there. ae) Then pa w did we atand respecting the promise of geed gave_ma nt after the Reform BM ? Why, one of the lint acts co 14 present gov, mount was to suspend the Hab:as Cor?cs Act. and one of their first acts this session was to csnueue it By that step the people of 'rem d were plead in the psi. tion of men who were ruled by the most asst.:less —for any one of them might be taken up and ince/cutter without trial and without any means aiteewerde ofjuitifri. himself, however innocent. (A Voice : "Hr. Hump; ported it."—Another Voice: Why did our Varna former, Dar. Hume, support it?") How, then, c Add they hope for any great financial or other charge i n he %d u d* . te salon of affairs without a further reform in tite Remus Commons? Look even at the constitution of that honsa.oo, 161,500 electors returr el the m ijority of its m cm h.n,T2g,try, consequence was the* they sow crime, and rauperina, a a j suffericg increase, and could not hope for cmenament, oat they saw that ..nomalous state of things air.eo.d.d. lane. elusion he would onlr observe, hors ever eithi r exprencrr of hie might he noted by spies and informers, that thed who would join peaceably and legally to effect that cbjoet Wffa the truest friends of the monarchy and the atm % (Cheers.) He begged to move the following tei o ; ut .,, : That, in the opinion of this meeting, the national ttpenftwe b i , been tr.creased by successive gavernmcuts to an t stento! s wum by the exigencien of the public terrier; that the taxatio=hgt o uphold thbf wasteful extravagance IS impovenohing the d thi country ; and that in order to obtain effectual reduetow it twads. and economy in the public expenditure, und ravue a ores sum.„ theme, It lo indiapeneable that the Commons ileum et ram* should be further reformed. Air. NICIIOLAY having congratulated the reforms d tdarylebone on the extent of the meeting, expressed a laic that such meetings would not few or fee hetwego g frequently repeated, until their effect wu Alt by the hgids. lu•e. As for :he present ministers, they were nut tip :ski. tern of the country, but merely holding office en tuffermee. (Hear, hear.) The resolution wos put and carried by acclamation. Mr. HODGES moved the second resolution : That the prevent mode of levying taxes in unjust in Mimi*, primes most unMirly on that portion of the community lean am bear its weight ; and, therefore, such a revision has 'mums tali" sable an will lance the elfoct of inlacing the burdun of Lomita me. property of the country, Instead of the present unqual, cumpiage, and expennlvely collected system. At this perioi of the proceedings the preesure in the rag which was overcrowded became an great an to induce esie for an adjournment to the yard. Alter some lactic:maim monstrance, against the suggestion, the aejournm-st Not place; a table was carried to the yonl, end chair p soda it for the chairman, but no arrangement having tel made for the press, we were obliged to her what we totl, which amounieihnercly to the purport of the spetchtt,foo one of the windows of the schoolroom. Mr. SODEN having mended the resolution, Lrrd D. STUART supported it in a brief cxech,inwhid he ex tressed, first, his fullest concurrence the oljert themeeting ; secondly, his regret that they were ho" nuke Touring to seek that object by what appeared to him the more effectual way, tamely, by a reform o' the Hems d Comm , ns. If they had a House of Comm ns elected through the medium of the ballot, with a more esteded sutfr we, and if more particularly they bad tt:enn , al ins eu of septennial parliaments, they might then look formai wits certainty to the speedy accomplishment of homed reform. (Cheers.) The resolution was unanimously agreed to. Mr. J. WILLIAMS, M P., in moving the next malt. tion, deemed himself the advocate of direct taution, to the extent of one-twelfth of each man's income lentait fai Altogether free from impos's of every description.. Us ins also in favour of all those measures alluded to by the Mit Ir rd, and would gladly support his motion for Meath:alp. D Dements. Tho following is the resolution : That for the attainment of the objects set forth In the preesom resolutions, It Is expedient that an association be formed, to be old the St. Marylebone Financial and itetorm Association, sod thuds following be the objects and rules of such aesociation :—l. To eta ley al sac, oir.stitutioual means of inducing the must raid ccoaar a the expenditure of the government, consistent oda due el ctency in the several departments of the public service, in endeavour to obtain for the people a more direct control ere the same, by a further reform of the House of Cotansaa—t To obtain a eonsplete revision of taxation, and the substitution tin Impost fairly levied on property and income, in lieu ut the prom unequal, complicated, and expensively collected duties spun came dities. Political partisanship is distinctly disavowed, the sweciatin being composed of men of all political parties. Mr. CASSELL having seconded the resolution, it wrap and esrried amidst loud cheep. _ _ . A formal vote of thanks wes then pwsed to Mr. linos his past public services in the cause of reform, and fortis 'resistance on the present occasion, upon which the set* broke up. MEETING AT SOUTHWARK. Yesterday a public meeting of the inhabitants d the borough of Southwark was held at the hall of the Litany Institution, Borough-road, in support of the =emanate favour of financial reform. Mr. Apeley Pe llatt in the chair. Mr. J. L. STEVENS proposed the first resolution, that ft was the duty of the government so to obtain a national lams as to leave both the necessaries of lie and the efforts of is dustry untaxed, and to expend it with the utmost o rejsid to economy ; and that, therefore, realised property eh d but at least the largest proportion of the bodge of the sate. Sinecures should be aboluhed, alone should be reduced, and the annuli ensue should be brought within the limits of absolute activity. Mr. W. HOWARD seconded the resolution. Mr. HEARNE suggested that the meeting ought to support the object for which the Liverpool Aseocatia was formed, and assist Mr. Cobden in getting hit Witt He wanted to have a resolution to that effect. The resolution was carriedas proposed. Mr. TIIWAITES moved that the plan of finarcialmfa n. proposed by Mr. Cobden, M.P., was deserving of the wend support, and that Mr. Ald. Humphery and Sir W. Mcdsv worth, the members for this berougli, he requested to sii his efforts in the HOllllll of Commons for its lathe adoption, and otherwise to prom:te a exes equitable adjustment and general reduction of tuition The present was a question that came home to the gist body of the community. Those who ahstained essaa joining Mr. Cobden would soon find that their not interests wero with the interests of the maws. Sons might be surprised that they were prepared to Pi resolutions for a reduction of expenditure, and wid nothing of the franchise ; but he thought that nothing could be done until they all aoknowiedged ths right of every man to vote. All abusa would be rams if the people bestirred themselves end united. Mr. HLIEINGTON seconded the resolution, which wol also carried unanimously. Thanks were voted to the chairman, and the meeting 14 ' punted. MEETING AT DERBY. Yesterday at a meeting of p r ofessional SA manufacturers, end tradesmen, convened by ritellg' held in the Town-hall, to take into c onsiderstioe d: 4 propriety of establishing a Financial Reform Asvgistioe Derby, Mr. Alderman Peet in the chair, the lollowisf ni t Anions were pored : That an amociation be established, to be called the vial Reform Association, and that its obj.,cts be t—l. To vat ID D; fill and cunstimtional means of inducing the moat rigid tsar . % the expenditure of the government, consleent with do; eine!: the several departments of the public service ; and to s-ntrea . .7 l , equitable and economical system of taxation. 2. To cosoOtili„:7 the Lie-moot Financial Reform Association and other DD.. - their efforts to accomplish the above objects. A aeries of rules was also adopted. Mr. Vdenui Peet was appointed president of the associatisnj _, lll C ou ncillor Mcs'ey (of the firm of 13,1 ea a nd Moll; lace manufacturers), and Mr. Councillor Barr (iron merchant, Britannia foundry), wcre appointee' seer presidents ; Mr. Councillor Madeley, secretary; r, Mr. Alderman S. Fox, treasurer. A council of ;R ea members, comprising professional men, mci.ufacturerk l ea ding tradesmen o; the town, was also nical ua wd ; sx!ir association was launched under most Lyouratac ansintO A public meeting will shortly be held. IRELAND. DUBLIN, Iran. 21. The prospect of delay in legislating on the potit i l subject has caused much regret here, as it sru"' hardly possible to effect any rates of proPeo considerable amount until the question of nitig settled in a decisive manner. A maximum rate of 104 is thought too high by 25 per cent. in many Vn: I have heard a most competent authority ash Oit a the unequal proposal of the ministry were adopted , ,_ 4 w at the erd of two years every union in Ireland, lon exception, would be able to support its own par,. maximum rate of 10s. will keep lands front taken in those parts of the country where it Eeii pressing importance without delay to introduce. proprietors. Such are the sentiments I bear de b here by those whose opinions are entitled to ro,„ At tlto important meeting of the county of MP.