The Express. — London, England, 1849-02-10 00:00:00

PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. Tbs CHANCILLO) of the BICHBQUIJA .dad. h reply le • 'wade& in Mr. J. B. &silk kW the Trotsky Dad Mesa seeps to any eat la Iran Dr. Remise' neelw tisk Wood le by the Mew ea the *oth May lest, relative to the estesse al ltkg the plaits seseash.. Mr. ISMS eeM *Mt tits red impart of die weeklies of ide Ma. !Yd was to brims the Wake. animism. sea °OW meek inat of he per IMMO 'nasally mkt the sad wakes of he hewn COZPUS SUSPINSION (111.1LAND i a ses Mir of the be ban ral tt i tseed media,: of ties VIC4MaTiI red add that be ballast Mak ane chile allytwahl whisk asaM haw Ma to wee to he • asisoist. It has OW he les mama Os pew ,Fis is= ra miksal egitatim k Leine. Bat it /shades that tie peereasas waked to • leipposse la ; mad be waked the book sad BwOhle mem bino petionler. that they ewe smog Wallin ebb • power whisk would ems k the end Is he faked spied titaseshis. The pawkymews was te he asompaked ley wither hr the mom/ el the Mum whisk nabbil ha sine pants if Mimi. Mk maid sat oppose lbst Oa aftemini tbe pow r_ Is sato Os pow dade bp t••••• ••Ps• as it the bil = dislike Wen the result ti th e wiegninunent of Oat essaley. end es hag as the milk whit of gov_me.... im Mr . amilakel so imi r w t onid dieler kiss bo tabs Ma bad kited ler Mae wham Mae* jpoust melee frisk • •••••• alwkilowies of gable ia sad Ike mosiMig kw knibalisen Ms beep. Oak, sad be awl mad his wee whist he bib Ph. SADLIII adtamiedgei Hsi eirsimelhalw hiOt arise le Judd then. wisetwit babas kawhaikkg • .n ... ia . 7=0.4 hew to Add. sima of of lde Mow amielipma ; bat bis i ll"Wthat in On mask beaks goesiumat bed did to make cut a use fee the coati :name el asiodw systole is Ireland. (Hear, Mar.) It was eitotity of murk, that under to of the saMlas hipension act, ken had bus but 120 individuate arrested. He was not aware west et that aszatisr maimed still maw hug ; L e tt a there were bat eiz oat of the U 0 be shoal* watMor that it innahlied swag panda hr :t ent d da posswit prophition. Ile shigMber desied d Sato was Ito. et bake ea the part of the punk st Iseiad isesmie Dee Wiest y ; the people bed lewd al audimok ad refitted say haw to phse hi& he theponwhis mss et bee )WM7% Waimea It wait be tea govenmeat se beer I. mall that the bide pas* are mwaboble moos the madam al the orb tor he relaatiee of thilr pelithe eisailisalleas and NM the Lebo people wens as a media .1 bar. Mahn , : a panel - of lawidpisi by (A laugh) pendants wee Islmphil by a hsa the Hems Lialsorbe 'spired at tr is ai: awl mama a maimaiii d Si how wide their looldelpt urea the WPM of the miming of yobbo S. The following gmtlesess. who wen slipknd mongers of the °entwines, tin seekepanied the 'manager to the Homo of Leek vii. : sir. 0 Om, Sir U. per, Sir R. IngUs, Mr. Brad, Mr. Harpy Mr. W. Patten, Sir J. Y. BnUer, Lord Ikeda, the Arismey Osaeral, the Bad of Arsadel sad Surrey. Mr. Thome*, Kr. Maley, sad Mr. Ewan; Oa he return d the -amps fils O. GRIT sowsmosel at the Isar that their beak., lad awasseinaki nosintisk to whisk Ibq diked the smenweass el tbe beak 11r. RADLEIR nessod. The Chasesibr of the Rieke quo bad so other remedy to Fosse bat a smell bubbliest etas esonants suss which weak be opitile to pee mut ational aid to the destitute is these dieleiste he MS gado& of two mouths. But the sable hod at the hod of the IM=t, when called ups to leash upon the* all sla question, the Find* gad d. of the UM poor law, did set Old called spa to seats to the boos what opkillas be had hoed with rokrusse to the Find* of the atedgmety et the law ; lhe dished dedierd to give sei *Nee sad goallread ), M w hatnot, oil with smaziag the Masa OM he had hoed olds WO= Oda he khaki to lay begin the sommilbe. Whoa arse senabers of the cahust, la the oars 111 Ole mob, hi anal apes to take pit Is a debate ea a Folio of as wok Opostasse, it ill bosom dos to the the rasetlive emerges which they had adogisi, sad it was bat 111 onleglasil te Induos the Fob of baked le *es osidsase it a eislaistratio, when mob inpatient saga less of the Ombilmitiga alwistiter declined to adore Oat eras their soinislises or what views they were Found to eakileis so tie potobb et thet inFrhia mai sue. The Roe ismeary is wads as kd moo that be isonnible to • arikaha k the area 0 . The . of the 27411*.1N sawed as ditiestly last =stint he was es afoot' is sa istremsd sea of ; ad the sable lad at the had if the Mani lis hit washer he bad e= e alr 11 11 :71 . e . *leek Itwss She want of byes WM siobistsatien that was the 111116 ewe of the dimeslste digokhelics k the Wads et the pole of leelsed. * saw tint oaks polo bog the Food adakk list onessolos polo sad osessedo Folludons. r za, the nab lied ore to adopt • mess of remedial heti& Ilea hr blind, lie shook bare pan se alik isbim bbile; as NO& MOS est_ swims* et as ansi *sign tbat he Ma a ala or sosalince la pesdakes le saaanstag hem . the Wage bosh. e saw sot smowt the iambus . 0 the Celia the ß habits of bestow The Ma. WINO qpile wee Par• Law Oseemisheer gad Cidd Sementy Mr ached, ad he (Mr daileir) mid that was of the km smegaisais kr he beedasliss of Ida 1•411111:111 Me this bare Monk be as ratiosat of the Ask ka. boa Om (Mar of these It ins is. palble ant She st sight bon. gostlemea swill moo ado* dis, earls the dike Want b his belie= kg Food bed Ma w gg k with of a .its MAIL for ths= of lie winks eirshd s te elation sad Se tie Ode spread of dialintio ol d = mint hi Inks& The pops of baked wore limo 0 ask peat Dinkel oulobedasso Tho legge iiiiiilla Imam shoo Moo minim et the Foie dime had wogs Mewl to a madisisa of giant alter andlaiss i bemuse se oboe or sowstioa bad semnetod hem the irvionmset talculated to Mine the disintai m all ets loam had te bass Is say mon Is pro st a ets tat of bei aphid Oda wo iti Irshedja the oast of that pooketiesely sad boossat ohs, the Naha hairnets of lOW, It weak be well to teedier Ow Mgr the blegikelles of some omegas stabiles the Rua et Inlaid .11 knot Moir sopa. Trilled byzeidef:rer,, at the hated propmey of sabstitote he • seargics bill — . whither it week set he • gabstiab he Wisdom • bill whisk would path fir the maw of laded prepay whisk wog soft oar the easing and ass* of the bush Cott of Climory. He asked Oink* it me Fa whether it wee slainsalke, to pass • sisme 4.. the het swim whisk snort its other sago had the oast et waling tam the Coot a Cl - itsesry k rui a ago assaat of the Loki property of that mogawy. Tint WI one of the Mesa oak of yew Is eumbered Bales WI. Tea had set hergassi the as& lies kr the sde sr WON of Mad poverty la Ire. had, bat pas bed roared it snow fir sway la so ld aid sad egoktor to piss' the prepay wader the maid sal aehas of the Oust of Cheassq. Would a set he Warr Se snialame kr the = a meson whisk weak sews' the trashes a Oelloge, Dail . le • boar simbishatiss sad son jest stowage. et the ? ISMS NMI be owe IWO *vs the yes whisk the Wh eats lob of bolsi' woe moist I Rs seed net Ma the beam of the Wort of those vast oaks Is Tabled-Ifthe amemens boom dished ilea than Wake— bat he wail weft lees two of the agars whisk bad OW mid the mossesmst if them lota la based. MS. MOM= MI *wady Medd the shakoes pea the epic ef as sidißoiga k bast No. saberssabers m old be to kerthee the oulla lob of hand wire dolga, mei to the want ossat ia , t u t: some edilleass, sad it was show a otter of muthe siddlease livod—wWisr Odds co ar 1,000 ddle lead imbed le him. The rest difieulty OM Oda yus MI le mood ins the oat of oca lases Damn bad it the roman of ash own soar hy. The gnat aka of WNW= Moak be to devise Ike .sot - direst sad sseW moos of iambi the fidolgiess, skied, gad alma isikstor of the said of bawd la WM= is his sem . It was asesseary te doles ego pige by• OM tie -his pion of 'Wand east Illsetkai =c r ied tie ono el Wei Oak mead la bob s& bon he holm k the Ong pepulatka el mail sot fa the ono at a «ism/ akevap_lite WIWI. Is SS Im prover's* or the anhases hod ef the egnagy. Of Zastal 0 the waft se loss- ma amok thin do mast dose bask Tang was a* WOO% se Ur emia Obit wadi posit the lambale Ws awl egavosioa laid vegimely k Wok= sa lout reseal of fn ntlihas OS la In fo& minim sib • rated eta less wills hod no deeds dist tee .'selp mast bobs* sleep dn. Re biped a mels Mat this bill be read a soil time this day six ands kr. IL CRAWFORD mondad the amenkagat. kr R. W. BARRON hared that the Formost sea are, sear from toadies to remote trompillity, would sly gad a Khaki to due dogmas l a t n ed:ZsieL alisse N a be e ili a t t was that there was sot at this ailment is /rebel the MOUS teationsy to Faisal auks sisal et wry isstriptios. (Rom, him) Bo MA 'WOO something my diarist from the meagre ea the sassog of perhaatat. art I d holed he Isms meow of idiot same Festival mosso to Omaha biliotty, sans_ mint for teeleiges wade had*, sag Se bark" to woke thus le woks the wore thalliess be bad leaked he athe of the swigs. (iass, hear.) Lit as by ll mead massless belie hi a pal liadleril sid Toot M. titre the horn a boss* Is his had, ad they ; weld "la sea e *remost in bag essaties of the =k. neasdhotgovos bad a barest is m. l l that to as kisi.wooll k m curs They took wino era IMO/ of the of liar chews,, of lasb, sad 0 lambsinsa se they basso k a rbi s . rr a j: epthalaMrsuadVl,4 or or boilsol, oil yea ovoid scit Nis wishing sembly Mr pates she gam (Res, ham.) Hr. IL CRAWFORD, Oa who vogy s, wr odentesd te Oise %Lard Olegasits's lotter,iblisesseat wa cs whisk ed. the appliindos le pelliont he Me pilot bill s head CoL TROILISM said Mat te the so OMs Bekaa Clow II TO, 1 11• 111 = 11 Wass r ke entlMMOS it diet sompaiss for •WO haw ea the weft of as ammilive prommailist koreshigodad them imirt e in it tiatib et 'my the= liii&alisieVesishesi It the English *used I o. (11,141nr, the Irish amendises of dna haw talasisa were ad amass M is the low imamate podima ; 9 • lo Meld ham ban "lad puma& Ow a sheets meorm;ild with, r W Odha meashen vete foe the ser 1111 tb• that the mama would !. Ri ltala rg e sold a last bus Ms Mandan at he.,. al bill to tar a eisservotha open it, WHIM' Mao fum e who had jant fat dew* lee mai =ag his portisolady whoa be Omni ma Ma. Milt: lam inteaskeas Mae game miewill• u 10 0• bY mn a tutor as tint weitasaley Laid (Hoer.) Nod, whoa she posiest aware was‘elbdight helm the ead, he (Mr. rno) ewe It a Mame anpgail. Amu. he am Wired am Mot ma plead la • vary pedlar pest gut mge egUlaammetien vu not a medt em• lall Rid a Iloilo mem am the pert a the salmis vienldhave pinotpal du mama ge WM (Hear.) HO kunst say that Ewe was a den ame date it asp is Mind new. Without ilt all depoodatiss the Mira of laid Clatendea e ha =ithere had bus a mod mammary t abilities paid. an =Mr log, end he mall net hr as la of blew tee what his War had dean to ensue the hawk bowleg dome to Ida. (Hear, bear.) TM Lad litenteamnt bad simply date:what say dim able `insist elks well do. He ail had ma army of SUM tsa r h. san All a iri s t We Alan, oes%sod by moms MOO less. lap la . (Hese, Mak) TM gmenuatt were mat peWq to sergend the Ham Corm' Amt. Inuit a pl i ttima lama dug* ia i s t te n rit six mouths ? Were they es go m psepetnally this ad. ma 2Sr hem tat - Omomeitimal ? henna am gents waits the ealy two Emma for Irelead iamb bee I Imastere bed popmatled. (User, hear.) One gime down to the sad asked for a grant orraS ape the mat they earns down and asked is a enmpeadis at Sasso Cairo Amt. Did they all this sevemmint V r Hs sad What was the malt of the Dawn Cr'omboen ? Wh y y, that shy • green stiPtitt bat Imo Inearted. mod blue bomb presattsd; that meandadea al sothiag a man m Om male the Crnieulidatod Puma with the neat d the Idol wisatiabakey. That eismaisa ematisdod ita mod is 1110, sat Rem that day to this all then me am was to male ski ps.esent of the Irish ems ea the Oesemilidoil Tani (Hear, hear.) TM gemenimat woes now @gag g le the Comeliaut hand soda, sale der they LA as that alai sadisinaly Mei IRV ale impstal eim Omni AM He &- Dented Rua Ms pima, sad ale ! s the Wm et the Lord Lieutenant, Mash he emeldered dkinisMal (Hear, hems ) The 'Maas calomel who had jot Massed We house wu for sampeading the at far three meths, but he (Mr. Or. bona) would net es set to Ile snip aria for is. day tosser, bemuse he did pet Adak it memory, and he wee sore is was not hooded apes the of Nudes. (Applause.) He wished to knolr iat t . t had become e/ all the moons whisk the noble lord at the heed of the gmerammat bad ecasidared mean time am to mu the sale of Inlind ? When - 4 be..... of the Irish aura question, and all tho ether measures sad plans which the noble lord was to brio' ilia weed on wean" into allies? Let the noble lord tail the bowie what was the *lay he iateadal to pursue with »gird to Its. lead if this perpetual mats: was to go on of suegesdag the Habeas Deems Mt NM reads( iiiefaey, He seeped that Oho UM Ideational, MI Mina' it alga to /mad ea the men who were sew payiag the mai of their Mom in a gaol, and to stets that he saw so o f onaltion on the part of the men who had ia the late die. turban's. He had no sympathy Me Ma. amber for Limerick in his agitation fur the raged of the auks ; but bee ilej , lais i Ins were theming poorer fate that boa. andaloses mad gide' ma Impetus to the repeal agita tion, by sue a meson MB Ito prism ; and he, hems, sheerfally vote for the samidneat. (Applause.) Hr. REYNOLDS said that on the promsat eIP ho hit se difficulty wha•ever is giving his vote, hi he MA read with narked attention ally gado, whist bad beat delivered on the iaas of this measure; sad he was fete to maim OM be amid not lad may agomosati in then to inserylke ensman of the mime Neglienber. It wee fidz~ ea all Maio NM Mimi wu isomilly tranquil. He homed wig star Mot it tem the trinquillity at pourty—alaint the hmagNE: the gram He (Mr. Reynolds) deeply lli CharadeCharadehad leca indand to write r a saw to thm government to whisk so many re/masa bed beta alemdp made, become if the Mato it mobbed ware asp el a Milos Wray would be Wasted is Ms admildnan. i s Hear.) Re mused the home Hen Ihe people of Ireland ceder may 'dimmes t sod that they were matid lls adateated war tho sod s appeals. of ski date. am Mans al eathelMinist always 1aT ". 114 with thg Mahal .lamb, embams of whisoi Is tenni mann SII. a gam mad the ot Mask ooly t• MAR ite, me an mad a Hama nags,wadi OMR believe that be wm, dace teat so km as the preaftat amok was itse solabibbed - March I. Ireland; bat la may* thia. he mem he stesl d bra for he ma not is Aiwa of tat protestaat thum mat b introducing , seinthert la its room, ha beds op l. eilabllead am tvishes may damaination. He - bed ored pay their piston as they mid their =s, ant that it vas at* hopeless to mood =ea Zaallix is Irelaad r ithile bel l e a: ed esta d t that of the gdovesi i i:la ireliad wer il e traceable to the Irish lanlai ; sad that if th p l io isteussarned their ditty as the lanai& of theirs, it would be far easier to govem i ttatey than it was at rant. (Hem.) He was of opt*a that all the argamealm mei is the maw of this debate vim is the side oldie he hind that the wadmily of the vote. would be mthl e i rn i te i - Waal mtile t _mad - that therefore a addlthaal Ismail would be m id eta his @emery. Mr. 172LAWNIT thoosh* it weld be vaphileseplimal sal =who ad to memos mai anti mime so the past, la ..der to litmette Unpins of behead. He beliersal that away of Use evils of them s . —(a wait trainable to sea ticia aad Mgenitivemee—(a laaigh)—ead be blamed the Irish far analog down to tie hew night after eight, aid the pails Masan of the oomatry, sad thwarting the inseam of the innerament. liCs'irov - Tntanoat for the ram mer to midi they kid some forward last per sad wain at this early wad of** sates, ea b lzresood thiir deter "Maeda' Is supper ninnies is Lea year he was forams el i e b s e agamse rreed of the meaty of Cal, sad that grastierry i h natandttee to WSW, ma slims to the aloha S tlt el the goveraasst, ameba the deep elan whisk Ora existed is way pert of VMS hope meaty. litheassatly it beam hi (Lord Bersests) duty, breast of the (pea joy, repteast to Sir Chula Naylor the ateerrat of mailiap lemon aka. the coast to sappers the ris whiskashled alma the gest:owl. The map* Mahal an did time, d LmAilialla i ervisi pure, _sad. if gist am waspave r ved. es , attired masr, - treald be do rush. sad the gateameet weald be omitted to the respect of every loyal ma it ko las/I. (Hoer.) Mr. B. B. ROCHE wee myriad at the studied Wows of She right he.. 'satiates as al Mean bamboo dogleg this Mode. He believed the& the eastelesina wee abase le be emposied la Inked. a Oaf to want. the *ellen ter the roped of the soles,,bosers ales the yam* sasseere was Peial * l 7 own est lave la Irelssal whet the free Vadat cad dasseial Mess hid is Maashater, public stestizatz.Mtloale elies4s ibe tle w a i red to kaor ir wha 4 ? ass). al Ike ler- sastabst he Britt ), did set i zcthis sessare ? He hod oupportad free-trade, list if i would make him regret the ott he gave a th= l .ll ll / 2 would be the Nada* el the fts-bede aad alarm amebas cow, when the libation of In laid Mae finis& far those has. iamb= were sew pat ting at **boa sad twain their bodge ea their Irish Maids tad seEportnes : (Hear.) Sir W. INNIkIiVILLI mid that the boa treerlar kr Dehliajegka pertirehr Wren apes sa ezprewha et the Lord Liseirrafaa. argued that it was kis seseihnefis tics to use the pewees vested la him kr the pupae apt* tin dew lothe ealletisa ter a repeal of the maim. He (Sir W. rewerilks) haled that they were so asediresterea eese diced how say sees weld suppose that a Lewd weld ia the peewit day prams to we these prom tw wok a perms. No; hie easolisaaes expression alladed old= se elleil om e m a e trossowshisimposas, sad .aerial ea is wanes. MO wits et this a night weld to =Win sant, a vete ofwaddseas ia her liejesty*s =4rAlai the Lod Ideakweas et Ireles. Her JletwMillint *Oleic sa the reposeestatisa of the lied zwaresasaa,thet it w oo ls be amok is illeisatinue these poem sie pwasat. as &WA 11 sew sa Watt to In lead, anal seeteaded it as ea asitelosowsis/. sad that smi thies eliwt of that esiddiesillp die isleeduelles et N. swa ✓m the Int pins et returnee sew. *wry ass who Weed the libwtiw of his washy met Ml pia I. oat hs/se answers se thh slate tweraery chetah It he, hat bar dm se be ad that is was abedately raismaffy the peso siead. lie did sot thelak hue a tell &met the maaill amnia to hate iesedeedis. Ltaa TON felt kiwi* sailer the pistol a ne= g t o targi t itair die taltet see empo ebe est sot sklest to seal; Vests. t the Igarldii dse narksal, , whose Mears had boat iwiewsek awl to wits*. wee deeply Wished he Ilia hessian sakeaten whir= be had aerial IS the goweenamet et Inked sada met tidied* aid hying theawalasem. a. *Mil to a was at wiefehase bt bar Ifejulph liseates be emseldetal this *iv bed mei* emildhated to tkst elate et &imp whisk they min arra wideoeseeler to imam by moths mutant Heleshed toss el poessot reaware sa Mat bidieweest make el it r il l' s is = sl / 9 led • sant stake Mt peetilaste an the set he British etwilliallos; a whin ke thsrekee Ilse t t here should hews heaa &dad. M Sc, & wed esserste wisest et the oases whisk lei led to the as sally et then Olathe soesseres. la Jae*, to the people el Ireland they bad ae l y i to pae this mill thy bed belled who it was Mat teeikt sad led thew hasthe pahlie error. yet Sky bora pilty—whe it wet rise by whew melba sod swileme they lied hem lastnested ;billet into that spies et eglistisa w i r e h lord Oisess e i- f he ebee ; ed eer F sisa elnue ANNTWibis wee the law tins elar Yse =aid he called ea to eh. • vote for • seesaws which wee sb liable le oboes. (Hear, kw.) A. Mr. J. O'CONNILL smii be woe ' 51 ever J. 4 Net the noble bid and his Minds ware Rash email le Ike mho the that hat beta ossaisie toss as it lot bees the mesas ot egaidos of pane ma plass. It was said the *Won Giant agsb this till We. hoisted is Weemehle, drift lasamoblo objests, aril oseinsial it a tossonabb samor. No suit is ndiplisa esuid mak apply to Eimer INiissiisigt do% WWII SOW whim the alstalse ad the rot: pa asd ns alinragi boa with. at s wo olizt a USN &strut t er:: tie of thO taw bawd ia July. =Lt d , t was welbsed labia sod 1211101' a ccuu l ass ialo==r4 up , l ir' (la Minh hot) As a tarellai le = as edam te the bocci paw& La eateeitiral Wog la Slily Wt. tw ligasiAasselallea had sondatad The peeple againstbisg led swea widens of swap. maid iIIMMISMII4 sad soil abed woe salted ala Irbil Low* H. 'Strada aft to tbsar togalads• as sewalludeaal raw by treelaf tfi hiliabia as ewe bad be male wt fir Me Wales wiles when it was areated. *slam& maseabere with ~as a wermally ib le s e d r of tide At stoma a eantplete lethally-311g sal e mod, sad s W antal— esiesi OM the energwe land i and it tide uselawitoloael semeare WITID no pawed, It lewd& bast a swot nab sad saieserved blow on the libiedis lithe paella The bill WOW well be palpated far a few mendha—at host wee tb wwwelty for it bei wires ; sad Asa, ar deed*, partiamat would paw it in a sloes day. Maladies, they bad the powers et t h e ordinary law, sad a Lord lioatosaat whoa government was jestli y praised. Waimea wee mist alleetive an the billt pa*. dial menterao lbw Wahl be monad nerd may; M. on all ..-.entry it would be west unwise saw to peer Ws *- Realm waware. _ _ Mr. HOMiliid the last speaker had charged the free trade members with cowardice, and everything disgraceful but his ewe speech proved that he wee wire ly satis fi ed with the right hen. Secretary for Ireland, provided the Re peal Assosiation ow allowed to go on. (Hear, hear.) Mr. J. O'CONNELL—No, no. Mr. HUM contended that the hon. member's speech went that isnot*. He was content, provided his own egita• tioa ins allowe d to an, thee the - liberties of his ossuary should be as secortlie hie view of this measure. (Cheers ) •Mt. Hume) that the Lord Lingo sant ked smiseed his power@ with great discretion ; but, as prase aced quiet now existed, m the government it self he should support this measure, is the fall confidesee that ministers would now popsies sense comprehensive remedial measure. It wee duals said that this weld never be done while disturbance existed; hat in the present absence of anything like agita tion, he called on the hon. member for Limerick, and others who thought with him, to being forward each measures as they deemed neessesary for the welfare of Ireland. He (11tr. Hume) wee quite prepared to state what he thought news. sary. He was anxious to give to Ireland the sense rights, the same laws, the same rowdies to proms and property, as were enjoyed in this country. Hear.) isi Tle i sovernment seemed te him to shrink frees what was issemeary. Daft, sive them of this are= easeiths, and they wire ui a a by all ezeinsion they had ever statedY that house, they were he the country, to do eematling to avert that la ter& which all mast meet if they went on in this frightful =neer, sus pending the constitution, depr i ving Ire l and of her liberties, and yet doin g noddy to restore her to the state in whisk she eight to be. (Cheers.) He begged, therein', to tell his hon. friend that the ins trade pasty were m much alive to the liberty of the subject ae ha or gay other member of that haw sod as far m he wee aware mot sae of that party bad ',break 'from expressing his *plains or giving his vote. For his own part, he would sup pert the meeenre, under the impression and with the one , dent belied that ns nenisten could now do otherwise than bring before Bement measures of a comprehensive kind ' for the bemegt of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) IL. fiCHLLY.—Suppose they do not bring forward any sash maws s ? Mr. HIIIIIH—Then let them leave their situations. Time ought to be given to the ministers to propose their measure, and it wee on that ground alone that be would support such an unconstitutional measure. (Hear.) Mr. J. O'CONNELL explained. He said that he was satisfied as long as constitutional discussion was allowed, but be still declared the bill to be en outrage, and that he should oppose it in every way. ILr. H. GRATTAN did not think the hem. member for Manures had dewed his shareeter by the reason he pre for eazZina gelosseeetsPetieasa a mama Me williegly act the piths bestowed ea Len Chards., hat still L would not sateen.% an exemitive merstrate the uncon stitutional powers i in the present-IQ. Mr. DISRAELI mid, Mr. Speaker, I had intended to .give • silent vote apes this NUM" bat attar the spook width we have heard trees the right boa. madams the Chief Searetay le Inland, the motives Mid ban kind me to support her Majesty's go semensamisma so = this b il l might be subset to mien if I did sot state what those motives are. TM sawn whisk has bon urged by the government ea behalf of tier aat is the adman of the one. Us dr eamenses meg hate =aid dose we first viewed it. There 1 them may ban themeless alarraim features in the state eU Inlay ems ae kegs perceptible. Bat still that sentry is met be se teems • condition as to lead as to believe that *see deradm symptoms have alt. ether eaMbed. I. 111_ __would eat be willing Is take egell Weal Wm ility of refadag to assent to a NW arab" the mism. But when hs Majesty's tableSses One 4~4 aad ask for oar support, ass es enema of the *Agony of the ate—sot is moan of Me dunk, aspen of Inland—bat elogity en the sewed he the nalidence of this bean is mooned Ay the genement. I, sir, amen essuat to give my eels fee die inenre without bit efferiag sent sea man I have observed on awn session then en that her Majesty's =Julien have dams( the support of this hone on the mud of esalems be tharedne. (A laugh.) They line obtaimithe w Art is asesel modem with out belig too mien is late the canes Midi pro cured it then. (A should have gess eat of ray way cm the went eseadaa to ewes aye's= of 'nations msa, in the goverseseM list whoa the milk Teri skint that gon ad ens, I meat be Mewed, peeled mein We right to do so. Certainly ate the Irish pain of the aside lord and his eollesigues, I met aeastently exprtss lay °deka that the whig policy dudes the period of my public life will not afford - any blszonaists to the Mae of irk/r -em (A laugh.) I has eat Midis the =anew time of the year 1836, whoa a whip ministry sub verted the esaatitatien of the many. I have not forgotten their editheatell appeepelden dame. (Hear, hear.) I have set ingeelin die - man by whisk the party the& ia power seeded le pies; aer have ormate& the mem by whisk they mai la -power at • date whoa PM Mime Neely a pedp la the ematry h t ia o F i W a liisia. kiwis sat famed Rehm notm el =ea. aem pest; sae Mee I to the e t her the Mean damn whisk Maeda their let asesuisa to power. I may be NUJ as mere, that I jellied is the vete with hoa. manes is this dile whisk tend oat the right hoe. beco me the member foe Tamara. I did so. - Bat I ems= maid my vote with the husk elseleraska that I and boa. noshes with wham I Wed leaked at the mi=stry of the right hoe. barn= n a walks government, sad we sled the flat opportunity that presided Medi te had Ida mad kis 'Weems Er os Moir gins= But was that the nada= of the noble lord and hie Whams ? Oa the eastrary, they voted I. every divides is Most of thepolity ; sad whoa they tared out the right hon. basset, they did ft wqrsedy au the meads el that policy whisk they sew an obliged thaaweies to pane. Wolf thee, de, I mist Milan that I de in sapped this mann ea the mem& of nasal cadideme la policy. Bat this I an told kat the bill is to he on the ponad of sadism* la the Lord of Ire: lad. I hive heard the Amoy of ',Mad speirseref be this hone la terms of respeet tad admiration. Om Ms. am. bar went so far as to mane Lord Clereadoa's adieus to gievidnes. Bat I nand forget that very money these ems ponces who are sow load la the peals of Ibe Lord Lieutenant voted la favour of a main tar doing away wish hie els; tad I molest dm the led=aisats that were forth ea the bombs op loan % ihat medea. ifed,lihas. we T e l lc draw I Li ll tb• else M a , i tiertassee sur ir k an me et oak as this house vet Imght to Wien. Bat ea *AV= pally of the premien is enessed, I Mall hesitate liewc _WM I ease to the losild thee the mar nees et the Leal liiinamm—iesl of Okelain them he =ere • slims semeitefer the god getsemmit of I de s T Mee as milideme fa wakes wt. r unewllis expend their leydty sad eared kali pledges le thefts, good meseament of Inked. I sees then In= makes who, wined caries km an istosinal idiom I believe I easy alt the peisiad Vof that wintry. (Hear td feud lasagliter4 ofIM than gentlemen have fanned as Maig exposin of their pander dem, mod ht * em They seen to Mee estabilded • alidlegsmie of etdidome aud • tall , of wilatitle•- Tim doper te have has hem el appalls, Shish resolve komalls kg. ma Vexed= sad the dela . The voinlism appedlisa el big, 1 gemeas, tint Wads Mil m = Seat this beam _ _ ) The e den Wag that alb, kna =WA mdse. its adhees=ou no t aiiwilliag aukepsediesdreanelane te Mean ilimehilli tio the assist id** weeny. (Cheat benliewri) But woke theme eiremmtween hew esChipelleg wee the = the right be= madam s the d Netrimory Is lla soma farmed te appease the raging mien wait Mayne stem H. Nile then ham insaibses;_this MI is set landed le applya yea. Yea will met be dints' by it. Theis a dillwans loseireimmilatisa sad Inseen. lio do anise a= mg, gesWeer.) ille, I Milne then is • diformee Mamma and lessee as there is balms' adaileey sad rape. .) " This is a bill," says the tight be. ! . Sesetary, anent arid lessen assil on is • treater able atieuer; psi set aging Omen not amid ea is • treesinaMe nowase (Menu) Aad is, dr, is the g ia edilek ei e m elba bsea eat to-at r i t: kid numbs ei the Id s govenumat is skis bone. (Ohms.) Aad to pat _nest memsdedy by me : a measure has beet brought Mind, whisk is be ay opieloa nod win ad gelid& It hes hen kink be L t d= who, r say odds= mmenicsed the evil Milk it is to needy. AM se seas km this expiated= of the pane sad oldie amain of the mann bees l ewd to the hem by the mile lard, the Int Muir Ise of the army thsa up rises mother mates of the gennaseg, wed says those nabs when M wee levelled ate aot te he laded by it. It is weivasolly r▪ etiiive meivani sa _ - ar illiv. sessit la Mei it-awains *Ant the government will aot = k r egl i timid. (Choirs.) There is another Wei iS hate bees beer formed ll= l villef ths P r a rdise. & a nal ° l i mey dished aim sled dm nest dimly/died members of this hew is Ilallmatles wet ) meneana for that ~by inn se tinier lei le voting tar *kW we diet vo ti ng f i x the p the triagoillity of behind I nod ttlaetlag , as I de, to the elitosy of the num eares I bine reamed to, I may be allowed to express a bops that I Int *sword to tee rastoratioa of poses end iron &Mk at bibrad, not ule bola may safestetiona which el Us tw i t mh gemennerat pig mita in my tidal ea isment of Me maidens@ whit I feel in that =Lof Me tioa of Ireland to whom I dare, in e, sUnds, save in a whisper. I omit, how ever, lip, that the dam has at length arrived whoa the rati fies el those to whom I refer will no longer be deemed • rifieelly Nor their loyalty a 0751k0. (Great skiers.) Lad 1. 111111112 LI: roes and said-Bb, the house appears to bare se far made up its mind as to the policy of this ass sure that I should net hare thought it to address you oa the pelmet question, were it sot for the p.tehen eke eatertained by the whim lord, the caber for Tyrone, and the laws. gentlemea who has just at down, respecting my pest madam and that of the kw. meats s, the friends with wham I eat. The ban. member who has just oat down appears—embisively is my apprehmasion—to suppose that certain parties are to peas untouched by this measure and are to be free to conduct agitation in Ireland se cure from any hindrance, under the provisions of this bill. Such was not the declaration of my right hon. friend. The hon. member for the county of Cork (ldr. G. B. Rocha) said that this bill was aimed at all oonstitational discussion—that petilbas ant be beeriest forward—that grievances esubl not be geoid esmesined of it this bill were to peas—and that the devisee imeation of it was to destroy all censtita. tinsel and pelktsal discussion in Ireland. My right hon. friend, in answer to that statement, said that sash was not the object, and that such would not be the effect of the hill— (theen)—that it was aimed at agitation connected with trea sonable paellas; and that discussion aimed at the redress of grievaneee —w ith a view to obtain from parliament men. auras brusidelal to Ireland—this could not be prohibited under the terms of the bill. (Calms.) The hon. mem ber for Limerick, adroitly enough certainly, said he under stood that the association with which be was connected eould not some under the operation of the bill, and there fore that half the obketions were removed. Mr. J. O'CONNELL.—The agitation. Lord J. BIISSELL.—Ihe agitation with which he was connected. Well, sir, on this subject I most say very plainly that the bill itself contemplates treucnable designs and treasonable practices; but the power to im prison persons suspected of inch tr: 'suable practices is to be placed in the hand of the Lord Lieutenant. I have had much conversation with the Lord Lieutenant during the existence of the present bill as to agitation, and I know his mind is that any agitation ought to be carefully watched. —(hear)—that agitation which tends merely to the fair pro duction of petitions is an agitation which he ought not, and has not the power to prevent—(bear, hear)—but that the meetings of an association which is likely to sell very rapidly into a club and a oonapiracy—(thears)—which teLds imme diate) to lead to treasonable practices, ought, in his opinion, I and will add, in my opinion also, to be carefully watched; carriedif those Scramble practices should, In his opinion, be on, it will be his bounden duty to secure the asses of the country by the application of the power width this act will enable him to exercise. (General cheers.) Mr. J. O'CONNELL (who roes amidst cries or " Order " from all parts of the house) said—Does the noble lord ka put* to me treasonable practices ? (Laughter.) Lord J. RUSSELL continued : Well, if the hon. gentle man asks me that question, I will answer him. (Cheers.) My opinion is that the hoe. gentleman would wish to carry on what he may think a wholesome, but what I might think, • pesticioas, egitatioa, without any of committing treason, or of leading to treasonable practices; but seeing what I saw with regard to the go• eociation of which he was the leader last year, and in which, although he wag the leader, he was left in a very small minority;(ebeers, and laughter), the great body of those associated with him dully flog that moral force was altogether a deledien—(" No, no," from Kr. J. O'Con. nell)—and that they esewened with some confederation over the way, of which Ogden force and rebellion were the doe , Ski, and were insetted to be the preatice—l say, seeing, sad knowing, and remenabering thk, I should have no OWL- Maio ice the misty Keay 'glaciation which the hon. gen tlemen wore to en up is D.thlin. (Loud cheers.) I there at% dr, "milt his ponenally. I acquit him fully and tiseseely of any Ineenable design or practice ; but I am not to say the) lbws whom he would assemble would E w ripjally annalist a legosendele designs; and Ido believe that any association of whisk he was the head would be very likely to become liable to the penalties of treason. (Cheers gad Laughter.) Now, air, lat least have answered the hon. gentleman's guidon fairly; he may take what course he Mae with region to this bill ; be may make, if he pleases, the ether Yellen& speech which he omitted to make— ()—or be may take any other coarse he may think • bat I will not deny to him or conceal from him what I think may be the effect of this bill if it page into a law. (Chaim) Now, sir, the hon. gentleman who spoke lan, following the noble lord the member for the county Tyrone (Lad Claude Hamilton) has referred to some charge whisk the hoc. gentleman glided over rapidly and skilfully, bat which the noble lord dwelt on in great detail, and with remarkable inacturacy. (Laughter.) Sir, it was the sharp of the noble lord that Ia 1816 I had brought for ward a resolution with respect to the appropriation clause solely sad entirely with the view of displacing from power the right hon. baronet the member for Tamworth, and that having carried that resolution, and having displaced the right ion. gentleman, I allowed the question to slumber, and never mentioned itegain. Now, this oblirs me to refer to what was rally the history of that wiropnation clause— (hear )—a histmy, perhaps, which certainly does not show i r e uccessful Leas upon my part; bet a history which does not at all resemble that which the noble lord chase to sin the plies of the real one . Being in office with Lord having the honour to be one of the cabinet, and con with him in the bill of DIA which was called the coercion set, and was a immure of very severe repression, I did think in the *Lew* year that it was right that ga visanuat should Fern itself for some measure by which a part of the measles of the Dirk pretemaat chwelt dis s e : seeded I. winiia far the web= of that oburek, be mods usehal and andusive to the *Wadies of all themes. hers of the 1141111111sariy,Roataa catholic. and prosbytesionos well as membies fifths church of Ragland, I urged Wet Mir nioastheallinst. AtleagththedLwgdonupon the 'Alegi ended la the relhament from the cabinet of four of its awe distiardebed members. The cabinet, after that retirement, prosesed easerdiog to the amiss which I thought We whew A eemmeissiea was appointed to ascertain the stow bees beimmise to the different rebus mmununioss Irsisad. and wises measures p wer ki e dfseamed with a view W r= fate east the peisei wiskil thawed be upon. It pianist his lisgsaf. I faf fr y h r m ought a : a V al after Lord Grey had resigned, sad Lied sass,his plow, upon the dealt gay ismeMinikised Lord to dealers that he had no Author eamisa kr the sinks. of Laid Xelbenne and his collseguft and be plead Illetelght hew parses at the heed of dm goesaimest. I hod mei that view of mine with realest ee We Lash pro ammo :is lass esileaguse whom I sinearely regarded— Area I se mob, that far a very owillsralde time I hold eap okras, with which they were psalmody so. erminleil,ttad would not pros them for fear of that Shit P• don of We abbot which actually took place. But Yvan tirwe view4 u r I obliged, because the right heiciwasa Vii, to forego them. to sink my ate. say that I was satisfied wi that with I vat so dimatisited that I had urged ea my soileaguas is Lord Overs rabbet to come to a diction mere the abject? (Hear, hew) Sir, I therefor: = es as Inward iadepsidesit member the Vida is astaiwel la the volumes of parliamentary Woo. not roseinlies woe aided in a parli whisk We *Wham gewtionaiw theuo at theve badame ntmAridt of the in govenwist at any Wm, I WSe, a p • WWI a side.et vethiag frees office ithe and . Whoa - right bwi. menismaa raked tees elm, a MOMS woe proposal or owdling tise views of the dwagovernsorft nwasonbwillal M Weir= ewe, twist sweatily, if not theme sr fear Sam It we iMed by a email maiwrity in thislinws, but ens hat In the ether house. So mine is it that I that invested Wet seism on** with the view of digital. tit* Shen. bast; simony far from the truth it it Kat ha mace = 4 ml as ajter l adl a n W r ibag erin. alls g•!“. l6. B s e j g er the mon= heimseneal umee re men; of Lords, cab mar to be arcked at that wldht Basil& spiel= wee wet hs favour of the masers Irish psi aka was skipthm Willman' with mid to it--that WO whkit we eisoe de eked bad mesa le be ea object Oink in that wonky. (" No, ne," i fie ear or Iwo Irbil me r a a n That was my _ ost, at kart, and in that I euteialy w proemial to propose the esttio the mast of the he ade% "Whom Whom gaga twit m - IfoW, I ay bo 111 Mo? atlas AR esr l r billa arse pima ales -- I orsteltly MOM* sable opinion with mord to it—l Bay have been aleageffirt fa error on the evilest • but I must say, that I was simmielp that enit'a would be of great villitplo Cland, Ind I midestanned Is eery it as keg as I there was any poiddlity ct eserythe it, with the ylitr li g: it should be bisedelel to IrelaM - .Alias, ear.Eat i , Were ware etkor mannamanna at the sam e M ime - than mosWr. mess.. for establishing arrporations in ad& them on a popular bails, as had been dose Ii gienf. That swear* was, in the list Instance, asjecte s 4l 4 lha See m of Lords, but aitlaidely the principle was tamed the 11111011111 passed into a law. (Hear, hear.) Bet the alibis lard says that at that time I con sented Unt o Zee sad patronage end be in the hands of Kr. 0' aid that we merely acted in a pan. in a maser, ea to him. Now, sir, I totally dap that 'barge. (Cheers.) Lord Melbourne advised his sovereign to place In the government of Ireland Lord Noisnanby. The adds lord calla on me to empress my remoras ter the widest et the govermassat dada, that period. 8o Mar from it. my belief is that the conduct of Lord Nermanby was conciliatory and was wise. (Chien.) That it mowed traaqvillity to Ireland,that It was adapted to the trunk of that period, that be retained the authority in his ova hands, end that powerful as Mr. O'Connell was In Ireland, great es his influence over Folio opinion was, still, the Maidty of Lard Normsaby as the rapreesstative of the Zig Was, as it ought to be, paramount in that counts,. (Oboe's) Ilemerralesidmea se resseree toewer lialth m orsel to the geoseestent tf 1•11. (Cheers.) lir, the sate had end Mats& gestimma epees of oar to the bill of 16dt. Thelas._ goalless* is quite in that he mgoes4 thee mega the bill TY:i:o- Males duos Weed W" an eseennit of the dame ailed " Misr Meslw," and beesese ha had aa eseffirsee in :are resament, He asi these !Ile Wei with him do Wes esoaads; bat I dallied no sueh grounds. I did sot say that I had no somildesee la the boars I tt that the gewestimest wrearefsr a4 the powers eesils by the bill blety sad wies/v pa li mi st I thought diet it ins • bill litet to the Sane, of the times. I thought that the slams with respect to shuttles up passer ad night who had etenntitted no offense wee Emit vexatious, and I Weed is dm= el Mr. O'Conadl that while the sugeseies of the corpus ewes led does not irritate, that thesettnne el that sit was to kebabs eat set to care. (Chases) Thoreftes • es tertaiaing that opinion of the bill, I voted against the Might hon. gendenan end the measure introduced by the noble lord the that Bearstary for Ireland. Well, sir, it is a very pepsin topie to say, that I corned out the former govern ment egos the question of coercion and that I now propose it wail. It is quite true, and I must remain liable to that regeseek. All I can my is, thet I thought that bill was not = the circumstance' of the time, that its influence tos bees prejudicial and net beneficial, and that the lesion egesenree which we have brought forward from time to time restriethee of the liberty of the subject—more severe ly dve than that bill was—have been adapted to the ea samstesces of Ireland, and are I think, likely to prove more beselleial than that bill would have done. (Cheers) This again, is entirely a matter of opinion. Thom who differ from me may hold the reverse, and may think that the bill of 1846 was more useful than ones ; but all that can be asked of me Is, to folew my own opinion with re gard to measure" whellier in or out of office, and to support or to oppose them according as I think them to be suited to the circumstances of the coun try or not. I am sorry to have detained the house so long in defence of my awn conduct—(cheers)—but the sable lord, the member for Tyrone, thought it necessary to come down and speak for half an hour upon these historical questions, making • most personal and bitter attack en myself. (Cheers.) I thought, therefor*, that I could not well avoid the topic. (Hear.) Sir, the hon. gentleman, in speaking on this measure sad giving it his support, followirg other hon. members, and especially the hon, member for Montrose, spoke of the comprehensive measures which it was the duty of the government to bring forward. Sir, it will be our duty to bring forward a series of measures—some of them have already been given notice of, and others will be pro posed. Bat, sir, Ido not think that I should be acting fairly to the house if I did not say that any measures that we being forward, would be totally inoperative without those two qualities of which I spoke, in the speech I addressed to the home in bringing forward measures in 184 G, namely, the spirit of self-reliance, and the spirit of co-operation. (Cheers.) We proposed this very night, for instance, if these debates had not lasted 'cam; ' very greatly to extend the right of voting in Ireland. (Hear ' hear.) I believe that the right of voting is too much restricted, and that it ought to be extended. Bet, sir, I must allow that the same use is not made of those constitu- dead privileges in Ireland which bas been nude of them in England. The ants which pawed through y arliament at the time of the revolution in 1688, were sufficient fur a century afterwards to enable the people of this country to exalt themselves in trade, in manufactures, and In agriculture, to oover this country with fertile fields and with rising and flourishing towns. (Cheers.) It was nothing bat the spirit of liberty which they had obtained by rte constitution and the revolution of 1688 which enabled them to make those efforts. Observe that 'those lawn, by virtue of which they did those things , were not laws dir ecting or cresting industry and wealth, end commerce, and comfort, and well-being. They were laws which allowed men to exert their facul ties, and to obtain wealth and (deduction, which are the consequences of exertion. (Cheers.) In proposing such measures for Ireland we stall do the utmost which, in our opinion, it is proper (or us as legislators to do. With re- ' sprat to the se vial questions of Ireland measures have already passed. Others will also be brought forward ; but with respect to those measures I must observe that there is fully as much danger in sending the temper and industry of the country in the wrong direction as in leaving undone that which ought to be done. (Hear, bear.) I trust that par liament will consider with toe utmost deliberation all quo lions of that kind. My belief is, that the ultimate result of the privileges which have been granted to persons of all sects and persuaders, new 20 years ago—that the result of those additional privileges which have from time to tame been granted will enable the people of Ireland to take that place which they oggbt to hold from their gamins, and from that which I admit they have—where there is a lair seeps for its exercise—great pow, r of physical exertion and industry. (Cheers.) But if we ex pect that that change is to take place immed a sly, and is to be the sudden effect of • legislative act, I th.nk that we should be sure to be disappointed in our e xpetations (Hear, hear.) Sir, Ido not say, therefore, even with the interval that may be seised by this act of Aix months, during which any ens:losable conspiracy snip br euppretsed, that any measure which may be peeled son work a great re volution in the social and political state of Ireland. All I ' 'an say is, that our utmost ezertioe.s shall be given to that end, and that the various measures which we shall ' bring forward will be adapted in our view to that end. It will be for parliament to judge whethe r they are so adapted ' or not. If they meet with the approbation of parliament, I trust they may be succeeded. If, on the contrary, they ' meet with the censure of parliament, of course it will be for others to propose other measures, which I hope may boners successful. (General cheering.) Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON brit fly explained, as oaring the noble lord that in anything he had said he had not intended to make a personal or bitter attack. Sir R. PBEL—Sir, it is my intention to supptrt the pro podtion of her Majesty's government, and to give my vote for the second reading of this bill. I give it with the rein.- Mace with which every friend to constitutional liberty must give a vote for the restraint of that liberty ; but my firm be lief is that there is public danger in now waiting the act to expire ; that if you, at the present time, permit it to ex pire, you must look forward, to a renewal of those at tempts by which the public tranquillity was disturbed in Ireland. Not that I think obligation is due to those who organised the attempt for the disturbance of public nenquillity. They have contrived to cover Irish treason with ridinle •' they have done more to discourage attempts at rebe ll ion than all the laws that we could peas (hear, hear)—or all the advice of the most skilful and saga-' doss could suggest ; but notwithstanding the ridicule they attempt to throw on Irish disaffection and Irish repeal, still there does prevail among them an animus which is not yet repressed, and believing this, I will consent to continue for a time this measure, which shall keep them in good humour. (" Hear, " and laughter.) I shall not give my vote for this meagerfrom any particular confidence in those by whom it is to be administered—that is to say, I would not consent from pomadesee in any set of men to restrict the constitution. I have great raped personally, for Lord Clarendon ; but my respect for Lord Clarendon does not weigh In the slightest degree with my resolution to support the proposition of tte government; and unless I was perfectly satisfied that this measure was called for by a pressing emergency, no respect for Lord Clarendon, no belief that the power would not be abuse!, would induce me to give a vote for it. Bir, there is evil in a precedent—there is great evil in a precedent imposing restrictions of this kind, no matter what may be the personal character of those to whom the power is entrusted. However forbad.* those in power say be, you cannot set a precedent in these times for suspending the habeas corpus without doing • great public evil. 1 firmly believe that no government wishes to um these powers ; they never esk for them unless they believe them necessary, It is no pleasant thing to ask for these pow•ra laced Heytesbury, and Lord De Grey, would no more have abused them than Lord Clarendon. I grant them benne I believe them to be necessary, and on that grouad, and that ground alone would I confide them. Nothing can be more painful to me then to refer to the history of past conflicts. There are ample grounds for the dispassionate consideration of what is necessary for the amelioration of the counties of the unfortunate sonntry of Ireland, without inkiest it the ground en while we are to determine our party Mimeses.; but when the noble lord says, I will give • history of 1846, it is very difficult for any cue to listen to him and to runs absolutely silent, without entirely acquiescing in the truth of that h lithe noble iced had said, " I am abe it to pronconnos a fusers' oration on the appropriation clause," I would have used a certain latitude as to any pane- gyric en the decease of that departed ancient hind—(a laugh) - - and if the noble lord had ap peared in the character merely of procouneing a funeral oration on that which would never be revived, I should have said nothing ; but the noble lord said " I app ar in the more solemn character of historian, and I shall put on record a history of the approprla'ion clause." My memory differs in some important particulars from that of the noble lord. The noble lord says that in 1836 I rommeded Lord Melbourne in the administration of the chief office of the government, and that! broughtforward a measure on the subtotal of Irish tithes • and the noble lord says, that in my individual capacity I ab stained from pets on record a personal a inch in declaring that I thought the appropriation clause ought to be carried. I think the motion was brought forward with a little more of peaty fading. I do not think it was a mere Individual motion on the part of the noble lord, but I think the noble lord, if I recollect right, determined to obstruct the proposal in respect to tithe, unless the appropriation clause formed part of it ; and I think the noble 'old was not content with moving an amendment daring the progress of the bill, but the noble lard called epees the house to affirm, if I recollect rightly, this preposition put 'beta that I. 'lllllat of Irish tithe ever could be satisfactory unless • polottllke reec of the Irish churn was appropriated to edeentim. I rememetrated against it. I said, "pass this bill, thee** whhis you approve, take the opportunity of moving ea an to the ►bill in its progress," ben I said to the noble 104 " Beware of fettering your proceedings by an abetted resolution, declaring that la no time to come shall there be en adju stment of Irish tithe, unless there is an alienation of ecclesiastical property." This was giving friendly advice to the noble lord—( cheers and laughter)— but the noble lord was not content with passing the abstract proposal, but absolutely insisted on the House of Commons waiting on King Wini&X and informing Leg Willies, that no adjustment of Irish tithes could take place wales there was an alienation of church property. The noble lord says that it did net partake of the character of a party movement. (Hear, hear, and laught.r.) This shows how apt contemporaries are to be at vainest. We heard at the time that there was a general determination on the part of the noble lord and his party and the Irish mem bers generally that this attempt to settle the Irish tithe without the appropriation clause was en it quity not to be borne. Some ' " It is a very good party motion; de pend upon it that is the way to turn out Pee!, particularly 11 you waited oh the king and told the king that his mem mama was seteatidei to onliense, Wawa tbe - 7 ". `"1n t ....., e tir k 2uttbe lebittighes without salseetheistietheteialW" r The noble lied says, rete a power. P gL ni esensitt cos he give of Ida Irialt allis a nC says he sem Me pewee, end illa found that the jp Leeds weeepdmit Simi and theMmild. publie was H a ase ssal dimmed lairaels Mee sad his Irish Meads (who h i gi;:: resew when be bed bon oaf et rase), when he dies slimed him hes say of tha tins eign eat end that be hem )m oon plue sP CX ones en MOIL That is the somas of th bi k Ml ear i big ee sr dm years bakes we keg abominstiess th e --- " . 1.1.• Church ; they 41= wou the ld set be pease of cal Church riated in the position in which it was; doted that the gevesaessat in 1834 could n o t be add, when attempting to remedy the evils of gin s teeywitheat uessend n* eg to an alienation of Ch u Witedapietais be drowsed his Irish silks, when l is r. " 4 " .iiis tie Swoon the severnaseut was changed there was sea, untee meths Noblest. (Cheer and laughter.) Lei J. RUSSELL—It was three years afterwards. Sir R. PEEL—It took him three year to cool. (Chasm' (Laughter.) I appeal to any man whether it woisag e t " been decent to make such a change se they mad. ek's s earlier period ? (A laugh.) So according to the inpru o g bietery of the noble lord under the whig gove imumn. get their fair share of official patronage, and hav ing I A *bout two or three years afterward., their hostility tip ty established church abated, and they told the noble lord they could give him no cordial sonext whatever, pun , attempt to defraud Its menu,. Thus let aka ask only, when they are pressing him on any measure, let him ask them to pause—rt remind them of the Irish Church, tell them to wait ge m years, and see whether in the interval their zeal for ule st i may not have abated. I agree with the noble lord that I think it does make In respect to this measure of eureka-4g comprehensive policy—it does make • great difference 1154 are the persons who occupy that bench. I have not th. slightest doubt that the noble lord does receive (reel tike Irish representatives a much more cordial support that should have received if I had proposed precisely u s same measure. So much for 1835. The mann us fatal. The abstract resolution against which I waensd tw noble lord—foreseeing that my doom was settled, I a i h r i i d him not to encumber himself with any such restraints 1 foresaw that would be. The noble lord took my advise, There wu resistance on the part of the Reuse of Lords, mg then the noble lord consented. I earnestly advised bin n do it. I said, you shall hear no reprouth from me for u you are doing, and if you can settle the Irish question with. out the appropriation clause do so. It was quietly settled_ there let it remain. I entertain no ill will of the Nu lord. I entertain no ill will of anybody for the coons gut wee taken in 1836. ( Cheers. ) It is well to ino g want of confidence by attacking acme am mo of imeortance, and I always thought that an the course to take u to the corn laws. I felt that ffis natural consequence would be the alienation or ilia with which I was connected, and our lose of power. (1,. hear.) It is now not worth considering, whttoer it ad* have been done by a distinct declaration of want of eml. deem, or in some other manner. The noble lord, ffhp. Mg leave to remind him, is incorrect also as to the mutual*. We proposed a measure, there In ing a shocking s ou k committed in Ireland, for the security of life sal property. Does the noble lord recollect that / made an appeal to hem to allow me to pa this bill in committee ? Does the noble iced as. collect that I said to him " Do not reject this mere% intended for the protection of life and the presoaked. uuination" ? On the veiled reading you objected ts the curfew either. I said, strike it out m committee, bat ds not give the agitators a triumph in Ireland by re • , the second reading, to listen to a bill which has that in view. The noble lord says that he thinks a clause was not calcul ited to meet its end. Wby amine permitted a fair deliberation ? Says the noble IA you intended to commit this enormity ; yete la tended to confine the people to their houses night It is hard necessity that induces me to p.p. these things, but I find that the noble lord intsaill to commit persons to prison by sight and by Lay—(bes, hear)—those who are the just subjects of suspicion, welt/met fore I cannot admit the correctness of the i.oble lord's tory, when ho states that the bill was rejected because it vffi unsuitable to its end. In my opinion it would have him more consistent to have permitted the bill to be read a sung time, and to have objected to the clause In conaddiL There shall not attach to my support of this bill Os erudition which the noble lord attached is lb oppoeition to the bill of 1848. I ask for no such eamilitim I know the extreme difficulty of proposing these mannestel a healing nature. On all sides of the house we are convinced that one great evil of the condition of this is the condition of Ireland. I shall be ready to census remedial measures that may be proposed. At the same Ibis, I know perfectly well that no government can i thing having an immediate tendency to improves l l i reZ condition of Ireland. It is rather by a slow imi gradually healing prods we must hoes to new the difficulty than by any of those great meanie which everybody calls for but no one will shadow flea (Hear, hear.) I believe that one of the greatest evils in the present condition of Ireland is connected with the E denials. trailer's of the poor law. (Hear, hear.) That measure is about to be considered in committee, and most gratified dull I be if it should come forth from that committee so benefi cially altered as to work advantageously for Ireland. (Cheer.) But I support this measure because I believe it to be called for by regard for the public peace. I believe that the present government, like every government, man have a sincere desire for the improvement of Ireland, but I will not weaken my support of a necessary =Min of coercion, by Insisting on the condition that been I suppress turbulence I must hear what is to be done in the way of remedy. (lieu, hear.) I give my car dial support to this measure for the vindication of the law and for upholding the authority of the crown. (Loaf cheers.) Lord J. RUSSELL, in explanation, said that with respect to the motion of 1835, he had not intended to say it was net a party motion. What he had intended to say was that, having consented to separate from his own colleagues in the cabinet on this question, it was not to be expected that ha should refrain from bringing it forward because the right hon. eeutlesean was in power, and that, the meanly bug founded oa principle, it was also his duty to advocate 8 when in aloe. Mr. MOORE, amid loud and general cries for a divide, proceeded to read an extract from a former speech of the Int lord of the treasury, to the effect that measures to suppress crime in Ireland should not be introduced unaccompanied by each other measures as might enable the peasantry of that country to obtain subsistence. He (Mr Moore)* fused his .meat to the present bill on similar grounds, sad he entreated the nob!e lord to suspend its progress until he had had time to introduce such remedial meuures as the state of the country required. The house divided— For the second reading Against it Majority —242 The bill was then read a second time, and Mendsy was fixed for going into commits, on it. RELIEF OF DISTRESS (IRELAND) BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUER said that he did not propose to proceed that night with the furl, discussion of the proposed great of 50,0001. for the relief d Irish distress. Theditsuasioei would come on on Monday. V. it , • . . PME..EgkR*88, ( .13.47crip4,4 4 :4' :* 0 G. FIR3RAW 1 iv, $49. , _ _ , ftsve .. . , ~,, to be ( . 4 is to lel wry tr a l ,:=—', w i t ei t• 'the' 'i, it " . :44: l at l a • ' •'=' ' t: • '` ; 11.1 l is t thief Se iota Mao than 'l* ', •Z ia b to v ud d i ne a r .. is a a i a 4; 1 7 ' 4• / "" " aim At rib en to b• . . • - ' r• mood jai to ' ad Ise Se repeal, mir,l Islet, paw a memo* will, sir, I Ibe or mitsselles et say est et yemileareet, he et may • ealo semeems Ist bat also put g riemee ll ege r UMW say e th er oiwilibillemt - slimek - " slimbrim; - Tbillesememe will, sir , I trust, give tits *Wits it Set otber at et *et siitss 'Om ewes whisk seemelimlist is eigeOssit. to bey twined those owe. Wm it, bet th ee Wiwi wi011111•= 11 2 es lopt tells* pude. Itemise misiserelirlisi di im,elsels 'Meat is so seek ___ NAVIGATION LAWS. Mr. GOULBURN asked whether the Habeas Corps Aet would take precedence en Monday T—whether tie Irish grant would come on next, and whether the debates the navigation laws would come on after that ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.—Yet (Loud laughter.) Lord J. RUSSELL promised to have copies of the toll for a modification of the navigation laws placed in dolma& of =abets as soon as possible. Mr. HERRIES said that if the resolutioos tweeting the navigation laws differed from those of last year he would sat undertake to say that there would not be a discussion use them. SUSPENSION OF THE HABEAS CORPUS ACT.— EXPLANATION. Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL asked whether the right hoe. gentleman the secretary for Ireland adhered to his owl words as uttered in the course of the debate on the es. doll of the Habeas Corpus Act, or whether he adopted the entire contradiction of them by the noble lord at the head ct the government Sir W. SOMERVLLLE replied that there hail not been any contradiction of them given by the noble lcrd, and that nothing more surprised him than the misinterpretation of his (Sir W. Somerville's) words by the hon. member for Limerick. (Hear.) IRELAND REVENUE BILL. The house then went Into committee on the Ireland Se venue Bill. In reply to Sir H. WILLOUGHBY, The C HANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he proposed to postpone the consideration of the malaria is be paid the commisas under this bill for the present. In reply to Mr. HMI, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER mid fiat there were now twelve commisaioners, and that the bill re posed to reduce them to seven. Mr. B UME observed that seven were too many. Mr. HENLEY hoped it was clearly understood that the eommisdonen would take office subject to such reotromes• Sens se pedielautt might make, for at present the housewife gebg ea bike in the dark. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that so sew appointment would take place under the consolidstios proposed. All the commissioners to be retained under the present bill were now in office and were weir ing salaries, and he did not suppose hon. gentlemen would put them in a worse situation under the Consolidateca Bill than they now occupied. Mr. HUM S thought that money and time would 44 4 be saved if the arrangement under the bill were piste" the bands of one able individual, The several clauses of the bill then passed through CO* mitten ; to be reported en Monday. SUPPLY. The house having resumed went again into committee, had passed the ordinary vote of 17 4 786,700 i. of Exchequer In reply to Mr. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the amount was lees than last year. The hones then adjourned at half-past twelve o'clock. CROWN OFFICE, Fun. B.—Members returned to servo in the prompt Parliament :—Portammth—The ffied Hon. Sir F. T. Baring, Bart., First Lord of the Admirsor• Kingston-upon. Hall-11. T. Baines, Boo k First COMILIIit ailidaner for administering the Poor-law is England. Lessainoter—F. Peg, of Drayton Manor, in the who county of Stafford, Bsq., in the room of H. Barkly, Bsq., MI welted the office of (towage of British Goias. .