The Express. — London, England, 1849-02-17 00:00:00

if these papers trete laid on the table at the mien w aist. RELATIONS WITH SPAIN. Kr. RAMSES wished te put a question le the sable is we te ear Maims with the court of lipaia. As hag es the ble embarrAer, Air Hart Belau. ewasiaed unseen- Mad is say eater wart it wee 'elselseely a matter itseasel deliesey towards hie to pea any geodes lege etiaset, ha t _ sow that' we aid that Sir H. Bel. aseweeetweelliel a malseesedee is weber sweet. Ito le mk Me DM* bra abeam the Mallon fa differe= • lONA ebb sewn GM the meet d AMR were adjusted, ea San let the mom of eitostmat Lea PALMIRSTON.--The diMeally has not yet be.. adgeseed. As ea say thins tint amyl= as, It would semi la right now *Wm= the bee. OATHS C? MBEIZMIL Mr. WALPOLE celled to Me Manilas el le noble toed, that for the day co whisk he bed Sod the did readfag the Hoboes Corms loopeedat 10/4 be bad gimm Mies et a awakes* to woribe the peepdeey el allfidos M _oaths Mao by atembees. was the matter to Mlle hewer& ea that day or not ? Lied I. RUSSELL : it s that do third reading et the Habeas Corpus summits Am MR take preeedeme ; bat I hem there will be time foe sae to Meador' the modem of whisk I hive glom mks. THE RIVER PLATE. Mr. EWART nutted that the noble bud the Secretary of Ikal• he Foreign Alain maid remelted that several amts Mime bed Mai plea ea the MOO of the Rime Plata Weald he have say oblation to lay as the able the meea redeem whisk had takes Mee airier =Modest alga • ? Led PALMERSTON comideeed that this would la ea esediegly injurious to the dimeekus which were aser going on. SUPPLY—COMMITTEE. The report of the committee at supply was brottet op and speed to. WAYS AND MEANS. On bringing up the "rpm of the Domain's of ways and mem, Mr. HUME said that he mot repeat the question which he had pat to bur Majesty's goverment the other night. H., thererom, pat this question, Mother of it was the la/cation of the Claaallor el' the Zmitopee or the sable lard to mho* to the hoses a Mamma of the ways and mesas, as well es the asimat of ezmuditure whisk they matemplated this eemica—whalwo that was to be dam be im say vote as say of skis Maims bed takes place ? TM CHANCELLOR of the ZICHECIUIR aid that the Dead mane was to vote the eatiseetee fret, sad make the elelemeat et the awl 'peal ef the Aingnemia year. T Mt. MI:MIL—M is the moo" Thatch , sad ma ollitekg bow to supply it afterward% a system MI& I do as Obit my Hem of Comaim ought to Alm tad thseeftere I "Wed le It. Ills DISRAELI aid that lest smoke ministers had made a element m She abet thee, is seasogmee of the state of M awry, a gnat Meer, la Meier mai be meesery. The Mrs me lallimesi abet , bat Me mimeo beam pre med whit tba met murk= word to assoug they semi to mean cif sad It Newel oat br the kw hullo it as alter sod hoe tbs lowly* steals ktely yobllhed by Ilk Akolealttt: e . ten WOW alateent too wit at eoppated by h apparel hat taw }Alio k mod doparistut was tank& es irbboat = l o illire ko wars, without M ass.e. se any me' kept at the quantity at oloykyal. Moder hue eireamstaasts it bad boss hand taw to mho Nagidoesbio kdoetkoo k Me admisa Ila. *sashes, Iwo& kat the sagetelks doe lea. new lituttoon MN well wort k mod elk he bee Ow boil awe elm the anal hy evens of inds% ha Mess inhale utak be beasktely dared. It,. SOME would oat, k es hr mbo kW prevent it, yam am shilling to be mad he ow, t L ie, eremite, oath** hoses awd the ememly_ had bow ml thol *at hen IMO MUNI wherewith to pap MIMS Witalllllllllll4l. It bad boto WI that it woe the osoatoy geatleora who NAM govimmoot te any the mematea, bat bo noted kat Wm asaillora weak see lb, onomity of a wont asks% sod vat& mkt blur Isesoulagthe Winkles amd whet as of voting replows Wm was asesetisd wbsthir Mere we. money IS Mime Ms. Mr. V. SMITH mid, that the hos. amber for Moslem bad mot received am mem to hie third gmellam—whellMr the Ohmeller et the Zaskerpee wadi he wane to lay Da Me Mae ea mama ewhis to adoot reout. ▪ i re ha esm eb oduk of last soaks bad best Or. dog oat. - --- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER mid that his hon. friend, the Mere wry for the Admiralty, wee* whim moving the seensatse, este telly and In detail bow he the recummensiges is giselisa hod been earned oat. He that that wield log a mere eatintory and lam era mode then Wig radamieng Fined deeming se &T able. Mr. WARD aided that all the neennemiliens of the esomaittee, as to she Arm of the enesan had been can abattaadmed to; bat *We wen may neer pins whin t be 'aity orphan& le the awn et a would be neeeritegly tedium en paper.stalemate, bet Ia answer to a quoin five Mr. J. B. Berm Lord J. RUSSELL ruldthat bat nee the incoeniaz wind lens expired on the 6th April, sea It diessfore beams anuses may that the intention of the geringsant shield be stated earlier than usual. The usual oggess was for tho Ohmaillar of the Exchequer to snake ilo stelemeet at the ages of re 'asocial year, and that was nano as he eagle bo most reasonable one, whisk*, purism near is lake is the present nein The bee. gamic far liketrome had mid the country get into debt last year Manes the estimates were voted first; but he would rends* the hon. member that the budget was one oldie first *kip In the senise. Mr. HUME—Tea; but Jeanne efthatlimigelin the supplies. ( /slough.) Mare was a pepreithe Mb= showed that while n li t =rstlllllthe bowie voted seven millions some he the any, the outlay eneeded sight milae. lag Is awes of about 300,00 W. If that was to be the gopher nob of waft they might as well lock up the Mese at UM =I estagate their oanstiteents. (Hear, and a laugh.) The report was then brought up and agreed to. HABEAS CORPUS SUSPENSION (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion that the report on this bill be reel a mooed time, lit. J. O'CONNELL rose I. propose a dant, bat la emr sequence el the bum of conversation through 1119 lasso lba hon. and learned member's observatioes wen eras* nil. hie. We understood him to say that be KM to Oho art he hand would be a finless maiden to the further per gram of this bill. He adored ell idea of inane emit. ens, his only object Wag to preserve for *shin the privileges of the emigration. He willed MUM bill is order that English members who lad op ported its earlier stages, might have demo ihr akar, and Ise breasting fully aware of its soonelhatheal chanar. His present object was to propose the finewbg damn by way demendirent. (The Ira. and hosed meals cask the cken, which was 4 =l sane et that whisk had been rejected by the the aleset bag Is= public meetings and ether sf ansillathael bom the operation of the sat) He wished ads dawn 1111 be added, in ender that all dents as to the aseselegd the set might be removed. He ambadtled that they lad • right to have a clear definition, gad that the penes gelevance of which the subject bad to Genghis was reerteirk as to the penalties whisk be might incur. Such degdldea was all the more sessesary whet they residiested the knee of Lon Clannite, the doeumet ea whin the MR wa Inemied, ad the sermarts rib the right hen lamgenet, the MINA Neentery, lad nab on *stink& TM amble had would benne a immpe lptis nig this all, ad the Ism Seernary meld be i by astwith ellandleg the disdains" they Wlend. *spay, Ur. IYIPLAIIEBTT essunied the adoption of the cisme gown by the last spina. idh G. GREY said that to ably (patios before the Imre vas whether the done proposed by the hon. lasokse kr Penick, chew' be added to *0 bill. The awe war reposed won Woad in substance with the bmileullin and by the Ma. gentleman on gag la NW antes very ea the bill, whisk istrestion was weret ellGMs a diberiele, sad it was also identical ha subelsess with a tine Nei* the he.. sesames had arts' is caniteme, sad wall ass hew had »tamed to resolvs. As the rasa lean lbe behaelles sr the ohm we. thee slated ay big, mad iha name whir based ha 1111 1hetlkervernart ad oes agagehly the Mae to sigeol hens she one sad 1M wee airs folly mad bo a% be (Ur O. Grey) would osampag the atteedlie of be lea to so impose if he wen le wows tb• ergragats. Ha notably bed ant b eal say ibea wet le Wage then M Skil lb* bass. (Horr, her) lit. OILATTAN meld he should oar& hie pleat ageing the hi" on he bird nano& last that at pregame ho would an asp, the allestliasf the be.. with say remain wpw the mama of Ma his, Mad the member Sae Limefsk He wined, larrever. to mate that he had reran hanas, Ikea res= a ure ladigliaels who wsr a z i sow nallatt i L eli r trt i a ad ni l ear elimis Z, .) Hs Irbil la sok w ither betides& who now inpriegasd, sail who add be gadded to their liberty ea the lint of Moth when se t bill seepeadiag tM Hares Oespas Aot VOW e, would be eeetined to be kept in gaol nisi the mean» now penned ? Bir G. GREY was unman grate to say that they wend not. Mr. P. O'CONNOR said ke wren with the l i t bee. tersest the Seentary Gar die Rani the dews ref try the Ma. wombat t o war, ha midge* Os was or time inielliod ea two hamar err mime, Wash' led always epporAseary infinite et hi* Nheetys it was hb brass, ea.*, third maths', to give this bill the moat enema eggsdlioa. Mr. lITHOLD6 said, that bribe sa • former scabs =his belief that Lad Csa had sad 11 wirmalllaly la the aimbhallea of this set,= was usisalludly the hel. In whims' new to resell the ern Ilea gethe bun to the stalosir Jan made by the bin anise ho Vieth, wish shwa to the hobble add to lave been bested ea sends ale prams is b ovi Ard at Kihralshara. big bees pseimema Ha d bads arm a m p , i f go, robs. whir riq sal by when agoar / It use odd dist thy al e marl bulb hit K Man out of the 94—that IMF wen lreland di seem to ad the bob Ma b was rand_ pgeemblea Ma wader ma weir dos the Thilsweelsiery. lbw II osessesdi la him (XL Bop esti) the an roe eta the Ilasperies wart slate wasannadb a rt su la suelly, lhat, kg as as orsisiT of age yearn lbw ought set to be head wilt say soneityli smi ser k ei za men es tb lillas ey eul agew w in Wm* egg owl bat albseiA earns to bg WNW, MI Mod IN H. felt it Ms duty to sake these remarks, is order to I me=tals If the enmity wen may pestles& He I kaiser Int the ramody of the wiewre la X.C. risks= woo sot oboe astromted to tie ftsrii of Dubin bat that • beard of sepertationes wee it ootohnoso, who made the sodas, and he waned to new is wises sheelders no Mane is the preset inns should rest ? O. GUT mid he ono Noy that ho lied net ben& Ids mossenthem oak MAN am ho wadi thin bare best me• AIM to wawa In awe fa &MA but ho mini Milo MS lams Lei Lfiniowat bed set skunk hem whet imrt voopleigaly *pi omen la his with valbense to the eleenemlnso i s easslins. bosom lei In& ken keg soffersei sr Imo mays taben us ig ni tr if t or the ansa iambs et Os. W boat phial es 110=ilitirthe plow. ond_they 4 had availed flosesives of the inane shire ioded to essannfeele wilt dm poldlssgome A rd od to write adds Is Est whiob wen 1110111 - whoa seqpientd, to then hem that / ari a, fa essigusee they trore mown ham dist - part of the pries to mean peen (Hear.) Kr. F. 01,0113f011 wished to sok a single gowns. Was it the het *all ewe of the mil Male Thaw Kr. Moony, who nets Deessbee , whetmos was pnblithat is the !twines' Josa la J tell Mc la the presses of in ether by , peissous. th the at i n la w sid4 rote sofa he would be removed to the misdeal side of the prim Mn M , appeared. stated is amply, that be would make ham haven to Oho and this Mr. Shaw In on polismosne Mai givelmie mod the uadeogeverose, end bed do wise of the is pelonses removed to the Monad aids Thies was net nos SW Jos at the tenni side. but be ploh-pookets and thieves were Innen tram the ennui Me to the marshalses. fa order to make rem fee Obese who had bon reamed hoe the mershales to the anima elle. Mr. Mosey, ft ass sold. hail set pabilifed @meow men thaw the ow* win umealeadem but he es lap had fahnsed the t ake Sat whoa a grieveass sensed, he would take the eggartamlty of inking it news to the r. (Oen of" Spoke.") If hes. goadeems who fried thels" bed emelt an injury as Oh mospkin would te slot, sod one to the satins sengsden of "Open, span, spoke rllet: k il s hooghter.) If the right Item bo=na "(llir G. Grey would gram a sessmittee he (14. 011inser) woad, to prove that what he hod sew SSA was ten% OM the whole six prisoners had been semevedte the seising side, not booms they bad each punned, hot bons Mr. Mossy only had den so. Sir G. OMIT said that he had oat What hard the hen. lessber fre Meetiagbanes nest of the elsir,eml that he did not bellow ft to be a «meet vanes. (Mom bear.) Taitbe bed Inen--Mat big fa sae r i ttprissa, when they would he salad to Gerbils they, in the opine& of die entheillos of rho pin end the Lord Linemen sensed of the =assts fa which authorities had sitedl hued the Shigeo= sponesd Ines. The an theehis tell them that their resseel would be rendered assomery Wes May himemationd prunes. They renal to dlessatliano Moo. Gni add that forme must be awl* efts their =seal to the ether side el the mi en. Tares was aessedfaily been.t fa. The polies were iamembent, but whoa they maw the how whisk they them selves nil ailed he. they yielded to Os wigs of the autho rities, tad am hes was und. The wine adopted by the anshoilles seemed Os be laillegambig wasistry. (Hoax.) - - - - Mr. ORAITAN said thrills isiimilua if the siresa slaw hod oft bast data& boa wq Wars .ac (rase lA maiskua Mr. RIME NM hir visited to snobs la magi to bar Majesty% alibis's reapostiog ea rim= la this estuary. who win sow Noised sod Waal ss oristiosis ot ths vast thariptiea who was data pso, isk, sad I =sr who wars dressed s masa veep meal is a the ass of Ohba olhodies. Ho bod by bo lero tbs goantasot s os tbo Soldost, sod be !sped as ems amid be tas, sal *a whits p.bi liss woe adalabtorsd, post sovortty would sot be us& (Mar.) Bis G. GRZTr;plied that the government bad si power isemdww nose minas might appeal ta de =r s tesdis tits iimisisse 'misdemeanors. limb does made, asl is same oases the jadips bad se boded, hat in Miters ell sot ha that Wpoisons WWI OW dad to that - oat they IMO deursfas sallaing the full pnaimbassa meads' by the law. Mr. ANIMIST lawns already stated his °Voodoos to the bill had nay now to my that as the attiatasmosion be would vote mint it. He rose he th=li i =ssing • Mat do boa. member Ice ass dl= the bone es hr smoodnemot. as (Ms. Amboy) denied that it gave the Lori-Liesisomn Ike impede pewee of antatiog whom he Amok es we bo lb lake the add of law. There sand in wash for modisisa el seamed* ae ho.. gomdemen divided be would ails with CetleMa M l s• essfe gemsomost Mr. Z. Z. 100113 ongeolodated bee Mdailes Walston ea having II bog* Mod a member st nal basis to Asa la din meow All Begimal sod ikelbodi ba s = alma, bat a vein dr Toogbd maid strongly la Mime t he meson% berneetbs vas migist be. Mr. J. OVOMMILL.in tapir to do remarks of the Ms. masher fa Tongbel. amid in bog amen is el his Mk board M strange ea intevestatims of as est parliaasst as say ing that as power of the Lord Lieutenant to arrest men at his oan will wu not a despotic power. Mr. ANBTEY &and having said mo. lie maintained the Ter ib r e e ho r Ti then divided—Far the motion • •• • 12 lou 'net it The report was then agreed to. /Mail OP OISTREBB Mar (IRELAN D, D6 Oa the of the day beim moved for bri up the nowt of the wen of #O,OOOl. foe the relief of I dimmer, Mr. P. SCRAPE moved as ea addition, " provided that the mosey be &deemed oily ae a Man, and repayment second by a but ea he kith Male is the ungrllected rates, with power at sele hr its mesneey," Also, es a separate addition, '• peedied dee, halt the messy be expended, so far as is Fasthable, la the preltrabe employment of e e able-bodied pew: He felt that the present was the time when it was Ids duty, eves Omagh with a small minority, to mate a shad soiled the vole in the shape proposed. He could not held that fitly of the millions given to Ireland, there wee 'Med he a @baba: patinae the sum of 132.0001. It laud set be @apposed either that this vote of 50,0001. wadi be the last—or that deficiencies la the peer Me wadi ma be of frequent oecarrenee, if they were is be met in this way by a great of the pablie mealy. The principle of the poor-law was legal ty, local destitution. Hear, hear.) Hat If they this system of grants in , they would abeam bed perios from all local responsibility ; for it wee Whim • Mai premien upon the nos i payin b ant of Mee, leinot EL, g ni aim = the s@lereli tee, M ter es , tll:72ight Thi bi eibeled, if Awed parie r e a wbo were liahle to them to be esonee4 ' whosever any great difficulty Stith That was maihstly t_ spot those who were mad 4111 to mite ep d el a y &limey. His proposition amesslsi is the peyote* el rates umber all eberamelmesa. He weal make the fee simple of the lead liable to the este, sad this be mettesipl would not Wive the Mast es the ha es mortgagee, who sew scald set most, del who, thembre, could Mee se isteeeel be saw the present state of these. When the salsa wee l at i gi he would adowese.twenty-allt ofdiepspmtpSobs takes and meld by the booed of swim le eslwy the MINN the mend; Se PM with 6 , to pay the 6 1= et edam asillea If the dm era ale was set be bed so casaba is the Be deg °maims beim eel their them ef Its edge he a rest w irk would go sot only is melee* the sad satisfy tho sneer of Wee, Wham, nodal la edme pietism el the pepulallem 2Lesionetes Isil eold *of II wee by • gibbet of the preasat raised smi the eshiltsisa ef Mel of capital sad citsw, thee Ow maid lege he impemaiseat I. Ireland. Nat bee mid limy peewee that tempt if they sedate* byes* pale as the ft pay the ram ? He the premed it es a hesa, mil that the HBO* mile ea befog Mb& on to pay pm rates Mali be pissed fte on of lit maim spas the metes to whisk it it use ap peil ple& He would also mopes@ thst the &mid be enettletat as far se peseek, la the et peeselhe labser. If the mosey were as • lean, fhb wen* glee Ohs mars of repayment; but Maher se a leas er s g =l! woe meet eseeniel that it shield be mimed ea p Meer. In the Baba miss, he Mod there were 4,500 abbeetlied am whe were *rem es the rates; they were willing to wish er Imposes a ay, but multi set abtais it. Ise* moms of let moms *dr unnems hei beasgsflsst as ease se *AO. Is s sighbanini soles, that el West. pert, the .swi wee mak l ees peat sls ell. abent UM ebb-bodied rear employee* osd of hem. He b ad imposer sought is sip ea i tra ll imese the didiseies bermes pansies awl unproctsetive Meer as a test of Marley. The latter wee me to fell ; the Madre isatiosunue .f Pais bed bled be the ease real s. beam, they were usprodssim Whim the per wen empleyed be reel 1/01th, there wee so whatever to bbrarg whir the mid works en mine mei 'sly essem illsomem The rases wee that Mom below eves Igemim hod a meml Nam. (meadlamdiam) - He most ft ea se relsolien on lie ns& (Har t a ir.) It was seleime OM the roseate el Mayo end *s met et Irani ash the hat berm* la• brume la Ible senstry. They hod a* esly biastry, but matesse ; sad wins see apes • mime er penal task, aot l2 Mtn slue to shirk it and evade IL This bed beta swig the eats with the raid weds of lOC It posisties weds end be *lsis* fir comb* Mg not he penpme I ' If hod bees said the other day by Swig* hem he Wool, that if polloctim sellef wine vase Om I mime mai be overwhelmed wle applimillese. BM II ses to be elmmed, at the member of pupae weal se• bi imaged t midi the would be mit Ws this that At beagles them a ll up Is weehheuses. Brea HIM mime were greater, the labour balsa praise. tame would be a semembing Mara. Without& pro m preoeibe mg partienbr Ids& of week, he meld pelia Ihe thememin ef eines lid mile is mural mime. Let the=mph dee Claim the la Mays, bin yeas, he fellowed. At least, they wool be me to salime mere the. the meshy la d rest, mil OM mull be a vase as en the past syment. LeOhm pue the I= ' ea the ills leek mi glee =enema the MINI of theNlOthle. se deir m ihey elestdd M ill ny I s t g e sweat ef th eir brew. Artedei NM @Ne ther lethal Of 5 1,10 1 .. sr: Theme wit had bees 1 mold s dh altl • rims of per me ; sal yet *my wese sew as a olmitell. wen is Ireland bailee ef el mai m Male of Wag &Ma se Ohs mils ef Iliestbreke, whist a law yam bask were em} Owed lessiiiiiik aid were new the memo of ow linfffil *IMIMit el inambiess labeerers. The base me dist be Me SOIL be Ihe rebel of Abases& pm pm; lot Om alba Se the punt the useless be hal I► essmesiel, othombe it meld he mins The mind OM ef the imam wain • meet impede* poet, sit did the Welke Of die 11111IiIi el these labisetl.lllZ THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING. FEBRUARY 17, 1849. dadeeleg them a beagle to their country. The to the as of pridotive work wee very preened -- . deed, y in belied ; sad the people of his . e i idea of • meat he soppordag la s tiag meended- . . .. Mg J. WALSH add he hoe. Mewed oho had Uhodsed hopervbss to *hi lemon dexperiemes j" ll adman what he ended ea dhetive peel ; sash s law had boos vaned; and tik broght the counley to :Ay he hen. ia urgings the home Mind will: Ohm, ..!.cogs. aderhlerl Hie erfuients sided a •••• la aid were very heeibb ; est 6 rase be ell wee as part el the ally had been hod et Int flea the Pe"s t 2 ldrhen: It mem ewe • dillinit and • 'WOW Med* of i and as applied to bind at preens, woad b. widow. Were /WHO eml the thriving meek eased le elp pert the mosehme et the moth, they maid say that Ile =id heel sit was aboadesed, sad that the mesh@ asthma gene. Thu lame 'Web the bon. man. sea woe* hod mameidei we the met 'garden de. ishomme it the phdplee a Mons. PToadliee : ft was as Ober a*emaiss stipends remety. He premed to all up the leadowsers, shoat he had Int b - el ; gad thin he mid the lead would be delesed te its .,••• ammo., But la whet WSW Nib wadi he mew indented be Ma their endorsees; in& hew weald ity be better abh to make Mad egelme he goadantly mem of &Ow ties ? He odd that the rights of ladivldWs ought to ewe way to the paha _Molt. This was again a reprodustiso of the selelieshd anise al Proadhon and Lode Hiss. —" Is podia West 1e col." (He r, Mgt) Hie idiom he prodadde labor we more dun ea malidendis et the hod atdiairs nationam. Abode thb Nyasa had hem tried Is belaad on attain mates, Yd had heed, so it was slue t• da. In rehired* to the scheme attheg.vmumet he weld est bat regret that the sadden of pmtmdav maim (the easatieg out of the home) had pro vented brio gelid ea to consider some modem et which ode had - beis given. His great objeeties to din great of 60,0881. was, that it hided to cantina" sad widen dlO dram of Wm death_ ademorilitent endue*, by "ay Gela to:el remelt, le Ile diminedge: While Onions the ha of the egged Odra diabilme amide to the kumesity et the Hass, en the rode of he is tme t iml4el holm* tor Whose relief the gnat me he did out think that the desired melt be ebtalsei. TM gam propead was so inedemate to meet the dblems, that he that - POPO even he we t.*0.l to OM mhos to 141= is* el gas her I p re aeveramat to ghat mere MINISIIIII6 If the ofBo,oool , Ode nog to M he the et home ia. w as ma i cassow#mi solissilsa it wadi illsri much more What eseemfaa. Masora& MOW to trouble the Yoe Oh heels pummel to Waif, It~d the &toads' dam hems to a lber stalonmete esesseled Oh his ewe al e s y ardor to dhow w i th beseieldbf the system atenlin emestoll lei with regard to these who lett the meshy and thin she reseaked. A oat portion et Ms prepay was *04. 1 la the idea et IhteweL Wiles M WIMP Me pienmeles, it was in the heads of Ohne ma end tomb he Ili. Bet now about threeherds et it ma la his own mandreseent. On the whole of that propertg ho meld venture to say that there were not five memos who the relief et the menial rates sad yet le li pett 6811. ia is the mead eat of his pocket for the dad et the per. (Heo) Was it sespeislag, then, that he 'hold sal madded at having his peoperty mot away by what he deli net but sinsicter a muddies system of bablatiss ? It was no easy matter lodise • praperess end h. temas7 ; it was a week of time sad ktouq red odd be dene a tielLb: • wishful angsselalendenes, r the en d Moot tenant , end getting rid it :void ese. He milled the object of his maidon in Odes a preeparees tannery, and it wee a mat ter et imeron that all the industry of his tenants hold be swept away, _aid that the stimulus given to in prodosat should be shelled. A great umber of his to. ands had bass redaesd to hone, however, by the Wien M the main mad the& It wee that he timid hb seteatkm to the men 1847 and 1848 M Wooed Irc i at a rr 100 =de is emigrate. This was at a her, Mit reedlseted, when the Coisedeledles we thho them that Oar& was overrun with Iddi lamed, mil that he etre* et Meatreal were fall et derving sad dying bbhimes. Tet, in every helms la which he hod bees Ole to base the eamist eared et tam mom who endienled hem Ws boor rood& he head that they were presperess, gesteated, gad happy. The be.. bonnet reed letters hoes ems et the emigrants, in whiob they deseribed their Samba in Canada, how happy they ph i NM how meth both. Olio were than when in Ire. MIL ad "IL geademea laid that there was a large volun leo gailpatioa ado ea, end why interfere ? Why, for ilb seem, that mad the operation of this law the Indus. lime sod wealthy Mee of farmers were those who were =hike Ilte oat west /had remained behind. The who woo oppdated is tolerance to this subject Yd a mad minkas day to perform. It wee important to bear la MO heeled of giving • right to relief to the able-bodied, gal the esnommeace el @opining the law of 1847 by the Meet 1848. - They met trees this matter anion by anies.l awl halo by Madge. dasher pent for onsideratioa we the power gives fa tar domiteiseare ef taxing and 'weeds. appall the leaded pregeft et Ireland. And the notion Oilik prevailed melon IlTigUshmen was this, that they MOO ems the pemlaw as a landlord's question. He hold that. It MS • tenant's question as much as a land. bete question, he by so ses _of alchemy could they worsts the case of the kadlord and tout. He thought it would be clearly proved by evidence before the committee that the promat state of IMaad WY not • to 116- =hr transitory on.. The evils of the poor le w were tin the system. It was erroneous to suppose that dem were oely pining to a hotter system of tamp in bo bs' through severe sawing. That was a fallacious expo. lades ; sad, seen they provided the proper remedy, so far hem beng_emporer the evil would be permanent In its elms. He regre tted that he felt obliged to vote spinet the pespedlies ell goverment, bemuse he believed it to he Med, beeladent as • measure of relief. (Hear.) Lord DIIIIIILANZIG mid he bad reluctantly come to the mamma el dela; &MIMI _hi proposition of her Ma jesty's monemena. zee poem that the right Inn. gen tles= the decabor for Itlpcs bed eneaciated the true poledpla by Oriel my govasment 'Meld M gelded I. ad. mleitodog the add of Woad. BA &VI& that musk we was wanted to mein Wald to peeve sad prosperity the. we anteined in the pereitisa of the governess% Valessemensoncodprehmeheseeseuzes were propossltho i them whit seemed to be in the matemplation of her MM.; ty'sgeweemeat, Ireland could not arise from her premised, of wratibedgems and Wady. (Hear, hear.) The goveramiat refused to give a guarantee that this was to be the last great He remetted that besanes Id we odds that the system of mane and& set whatiane as • peemeset one, sad that Bag. land weed set "she herself to be continually drained by Inlaid. Some ether system must therefore be devised. Kr. KACOBBOOR said he bed with much difficulty made ap he alad to this vela, but he was induced to vote liar it es the petaelpie that the gesdiens of the poor in be held had bin led into ts under the implied mret pediemsat, the Mum was bound to en d.:::.. meet. Ho gensidered, however, that it was is eembint apes geverameet to moommay this grant with we gelded Madre fee the permanent bodement at Irsisidl, end he hoped further that this grant would be the kat Mr. NAPIER trusted that the mhos which had proved itself so g serous to Ireland , would not prove itself unjust by refusing to give to based hem improvements which would render her, morally and essimily, more • on • level with llz land. What Inland needed was an honest i of useful M•1111•11e, simple as practical, pointed out by the wants sad the universal cry of the Irish people, and inbreed of the repeated reeimoseddiess el adeessive ernmittees and mut espeally by dm emeheies which prhar ri rda m erl such looperteat hammatles sad sash valuable samadess ander the sereentolises ofLord Devon. Had ha deamendatioes of them sanitises been carried on, the dodgy meld have ham is • wry different politics for neadewhe holes Mr. HOMAN had ghee a rebated vote he the peat ander the psemss eta neemity whisk left him m ohs. He epp.wd he amendment of Kr. hope, Obit_ reposed to end Into • system the grant of imam to Inked. which was so unmixed ea evil that no limiladas or add mks it Mamens. The heeded= old Is that enemy was imporalleled Is modern bisteryli M believed its Wilms% end that rah gold oily be amid by his vets, hew well Imo, toe Obeldies bildimer, whoa to =rthe meow et the mdebbni ? They were sow ia this Olean to bow to impeders sesseeft; but then idea mad be fdlored by is emindaird MAO an g 4ete m e teAselload re. W agh =el t lez dale et relation. Thin had math k ailynes Oslo ebelesise be the propos of • healthy' elde atemisellsee le belead. Thebes maths laseenrity et . lih. The soma wee dm endahe mama of lesal ton den. The third wee Ihealleelh la easedeg the ermehe alienist peoperty la baba& Now wari e r et these eh elides was het ambles& Ist dm Met , ha that bed bees eddied hid Ott , sad ay b i l t t modem sad ride list waft d s. TM m .min elate& was bad tondo he pier, rates sod ghee boding, eat althea* he MI net seek to eallhpate the melte et the Mega et the sommktee t be OM ad rotted hest mini that he "Weld he v amok disappolated It there we set we deem= tom. taVallt ani emedd lonatahleg Is me is omi gmapig hathdd. et as age tel mho the ink sie kr the allshusli of lis• Islssit. Ile medial, did set he mesimity es hoped et 4 mitt" bd adobe, sem one emit so lib he hi weal be etheted. The OM et the glade to attribsted the menet slate 'Rhin sideallore wm the why la the tneashe et bmil la diet eamatry, and peed ha not been me .._w ash bit the est MA& had peeled beg your he holhaelei the ode et Aliellabarei entelm. Hamm these olds wohdlineed /114111611 were added egg = take go sill hither, godhith, ursineether Why If the pugilist ware as IMO tdelied br the =ial tato ma tho u =weee emoomg e tz i : t mashy, dry As be& wish to Imola the prosiddy Ia Embed hire was it ro V ia desterprise .1010 washar and every midst VW bar St end the adtemediso et laws, pregolod to iml eivildesi as m odor esemby eibill. (Imr e _bego.) them as b a r. ail Oh t o ball Oh lie li hlti w igisi2ip kar min i memo to Iran , loitla Idifon old L 7110111111 ILL Weld visa the ummisiosi of the km. member id Shad an a mere m o te et mmid i beganes I it were welsd, there meld be se mem hem the dishfuls whisk it 'shoed...Jib et the demodplisa peered as video Is plestale e us amok more Whims to Ireland than to end. - - like ea. O sa slo o a norf dio }swim to Ireton/ he loslior opts at a soot dm Mr. OSBORNE said he had heard with -pleuras the very neediest sunk of the has. ass" leeelepa Ilildtber_ for the inkiyt~na l ef Dublin —a epee* widek he ti the hal seleeiM . it they widen baud added 11 say ,seater ankh y. (A levjgA) i ll n e s zeued, cyan; that him gentleman 14 is num whin swathe CV* vet e. lefilenee which ILO Mr- (laer“). aim tem 1)64 *mei wan that the hen. geanti n ad " w w i arßeti s ea l rel l itg be Selottry ui rerrel t tn i t IREc t d evil He (Mr. inVrtett i t iP tC r e4 ja 4not beea , orfrot w an t / shirks oessemy but bosses be thought it would not =ar id nee t• the pseglo he whom • h wee MO" the anew of people rditizi emidasso thrift st radil anl that Ws repined pest Dart lase ems sail he WWI whet ma the us of PloteledisS to its the goveriusest, and suateatados of the peep!. du Wesel Inland, when they only had the somas 'ef meeting eheen far a IsehtiOt. Maw, hues) Me Ire savPia pseud as earither excuse for hiseetai theme monedid sasses of wit* the government WI been blued." 11141, bat of *dither had never been inallead. (Haar, hear.) He odd net agree with the beimpashis patismen who led thrt eat down in his grabs ef the Elehili peer law. He lobed spas it at itr ia lilinisier, mei was moreiseed that by so legislative of It soli thv oral wi het he Mdalom which their legidadon hod meal*. What was the hot? Why, 117 eimis, oat of the 120 isle width Ireland was divided, woo is dolt Ursa that. therm =dodo of the loans fees goommeit mid fees . the Bride's Amociation. They owed WM. brim _reedod, addititio, 241,00 W. ma tads. hod' MU* children fed by the Haiti illaddedoe. Mad hem be would chorea upon the essellest eraser in width the Ildlidi Asoseladon had doss he Oat of 000,0001. width they bad undertaken to tea, net *eve 6,0006 , ee is. then 1 per ant., read boa spent to the teak. (Ilear_, hear.) The government, however, bed mos* a very different muse and had gives to cm* gendemes—Eir C. Trevolyan—a don ation of 2,5001 4 sod had seised hit a X.C.B. (Hear, hear.) To ration to the rises t Wady Odra wore in a state e a rdthei if solvery, and the cress el unpaid broken down. He cauleaded that re er altrera of the poor law was altogether assaited to Ireland. In Belgian Yea were 77 prow to the 100 cultivable acres. In Do ke& there was a, Is lhigissi SS, in Scotland 51, and in Frame 4f to the 100 idea. Ireload, this, rank damity of periodos ; at the manse timese dud two-thirds of the red ereee oneca ls :windrow, whilst in Offal am& is the m imed were employed Is wannest sad, maa yet*" mine poor law was apply& to each, estuary. (Hear, beer.) Ha agreed with way hes. patio . um who had preceded him, that if they hoped to effect say budded' change in that poor law, they most tram the area of tazation. The w hich paupers had scow times to walk before they could obtain relief, was smastmes. They frequently bad to walk 40 mile; and one instance was adduced where a pauper setaally had to walk 160 miles be fore he could obtain relief. And that was the poor law which they bad attesptod to It upon Ireland—a law whisk beggared the rich, whist it did not Bart the poor maa. (Hear.) He was sure the best thing they could do for the poor law ifit was to week at all, was at ogee to reduce the area ef taxation. With reference to those compreheosin mama that we beard so mach of, he could not understand hew they would ever get on in Ireland with the state of these wins unions. As lug as . the present uopanns of the sated value to the laticei held good (the bon. member oases toned the rat - adman and the population of several unions) no new 'theme could be devised. What bad be. come of these schemes for home colonization? He warned the sable lord and the government, that if the system of outdoor relief went on for another six mounts in Ireland, it wand be totally impossible to save that country. He called on the noble lord not to shuffle off his responsibility by taking the easy course of referring than measures to a committee. Ireland required immediate legis. laths on the subject. The noble lord might ask what plea he would propose. He would tell him that he would never reach the source of the real nib of Ireland until he assimi lated the laws of real and personal property in that country —until he freed the land from the fatal fetters which now encircled it. He did not see that the noble lord or his soli leagues were prepared to do anything of this sort. He thought they were going from bad to worse, and that if this state of tinny continued they would have a state of society well expressed by the historian, " No arts, no letters, se society, the life of man nasty, brutish, and short." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER begged Is recall the Grades of the house to that whisk had bean eldest hat eight of, viz. the proposal on the amosamat ef the Mn. member for Stroud. Much had bees raid of*, renitelde eapsmiltare incurred by the employment ef the pore. Oartaisly he mold sot say that the more moat experieses Otte earentry had at ell controverted the portion whisk his hed Mind bed oessistently and ably argued. What the sable herd was sap eashed with not having per severed in the abeam of employment on waste lands, it showed be remembered that his noble friend had abandoned the scheme width was net well received by the house. Let it be ressemberell when the hon. gentleman op p sits said that nothing bad been done towards giving linelleysient to the pimple of Ireland, that a portion of tie money so to be wiled was diverted to another dam by anuses to psegAsten to enable them to favor **Oda stela. One Mlles sad a bed bed been voted he thee purpose. That ma had bean seed, sad in that respect be thought employment hid bier given la a most healthy and wholesome manner, and not open to any of the olneetions which had been urged against em ployment, but which tended to create a wholesome relation between the landlord and the labourer. The first amend ment of his noble friend had not been referred to except by the hon. baronet the member for Radnorshire. The proposal was that there should be security on the land, and that power should be taken to resell the land to re-pay the portion of rate which might be due. He understood it to have been proposed that when arrears of any amount were due from the land in Ireland, then it might be possible to seU the land to pay off the wean ; but from the mode proposed by his hon. friend behind him (Mr. P. Scope), it would appear bow impracticable that was. He must be permitted to say a word or two on the propriety tithe grant of 60,0006. because a considerable portion of the argument which had been addressed to the house to night had no reference to the amenelmeat of the noble lord, but was against the grant to which the house bad acceded on a former occasion ; and, although he did not deny the propriety of hon. gentlemen arguing the question, he had hoped that when it had been decided two or three nights ago they should not have to re-argue it. The hon. member for Radnorshire had acknowledged that the need of some assistance was proved beyond all possibility of doubt; and yet what was the condition la which the boa. gentleman would leave the question, as to the grant out of the consolidated fond ? He was against taking from the tax payer of this country any money for such a purpose; he was against taking aid from other parts of Ireland; he was against recovering from local districts for the support of local destitution, beyond attempt ing to obtain the relief from the local resources of the eon , pier of the land. If they denied this vote they were voting ay or no on the Varian of the preservation of human Hie. Mr. MONSELL explained that what he proposed was • general rate allover Ireland for emigration purposes. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the hes. member's explanation only dimi nished the force of the argument which he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was using. He again asked that honourable member did he believe that any ' rate in aid from the whole people of Ireland was sufficient efL easily to assist the distressed union? (Hear.) Did he la fact believe that from any source except the measure now proposed by government means could be found for preserving life in the Wed of Ireland? (Hear, hear.) If the bon. mem ber did so believe, let him oppose the grant, but if he did ' not, then In ammoa iniamity he was bound to support it. The hen. member Eathorthire had said that the grant was may proposed to boWter up the poor law in those disables, and added that then was nothing extraordinary in the slate of the watts districts. Why, of all the extra irdtirms ever mad; that was certainly the wet . (Hear, be r.) He (the Chu nsello of the Endorse) shaved that in the whets sivilbed world such a state oldies bad soar bade el l dtd, as the disproportion at present perellieg is the rotas M*l*l of Ireland be. tweets the ism* eT re pepsleeis sad the mane misting for their sopped. That was the justification of the gouramest fir the extraordinary course they were sew propedag. He admitted that it was against principle, but it was an ereptiond ease. He did sot propos it to :Vthe poor law he preposed it as an exceptional ease, e rt liodeg it to be the - only means of saving Musa* lib in certain Moir of Ireland. (Hoar, hear.) The boa. iambs for midellassic took a Minuet view of the ad. That boa. member Modestly mid that he was 'paring life braise distriels. He amid that he did St: the nor of grate, mad that sitheugh :Fr be tor that lad year the lives of *O,OOO bad been pop serer dill it might have boos ma bettor if their cms osier, had been pat am end to, and they had then allowed to die on the roodethe as they had doe to the pro 'dm year. His his. friend bed added that his wee the statedaaalthe view of the ratio. (Hoar, hear.) If the home speed with his hes. Mead let them oho the vote. They hod bend smith of somprokonfive statesmanlike views, sal issuunsa WI ben blood for net haviag odors& ea* vier. Thank God they lad mot taken riot stateesmalike view of the ratios. (Cow i sa Let ggalleriesonly refer to documents which had beanr l belt the here, let them read what wee stated of the Mass ries led Leedom read the reports cdperiew low a n s ea (Hear, hew, lese.) It they did set with a sopedtion of the sense et lad year he WWI vim the hems to adopt the oily mein that bad been thus& ediellad last year. (Hear, kw.) The geedmoded hal wpm* Me vote, believing that as ear somas odd be h ofead aver= 4 L: us e and pat In pro/slag it they *d r g a spage God and the world ; sad if the how roamed it, they (the goverameht) would be oda* that they bed dons their duty, leads. ors die no t = the fearful regreseibAby ef what he would be th e. Inseams result of their ohs* (C ) Mr. OSBORNE, is szylasatios, denied that he had said that it would be better to It the peopio wish. What he said was, that it would he math Wier they died at sae; thea be kept ado matil Saturda thinight, the time up to whisk the past would egret thus. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER MI taken down the hoe masber's words. He mid, Is Min pate are of se use; it would be bolter if thde Ole weeWe) Clegtash were pat anmid to, then that *V MWd ag etheal by poliameatary wad." Mr. DISPAILL—I am glad that the Chandler of the Eudora has roalbcd the attend= et the loos Ie the rupee portly before it The wroth= of the has. ambit In dins* le, that if does advisee. be made, it should be done on security from Ireland, and not in the shim of grant. Ima opposed to its being done either as grant or and thallium I shall vet. maw the asteadateat et die hem milither Sneed. (Maim boar.) The Eight diemeethe MOM . ftese while he has eon at Se paths edit* was Gemmed the ether night, :to the amessin el the twat, has spin mimed the theme llpn himself, mad so hay mewed haw the taken of =- vim, ma the mesa esusien, that i as me he will win me It I de- mot hI MI eberentima paw alto gether imasthei. et deb Ithd the hem make ANIMISM' " Dig M Miis ei beetle* mean te___ J ame thatshould there is a emethieetarviter el the Median wad smelliest me. We most nee asl4 moth/ the mesas enlimay edema who are suffering in Thud / Ma we mast nailer. the. Act iet as mpressatethes of the pooh of Realm*, we area met suing • aeon*. end &Mg feast *oar, by war vet to • career whisk My Mimed, bring sue say thitelles, wham rein, ea these whom we represent. Boma this is net a new vote m a porthole: oemeioa. The Chenether of the Ikeiremn hes jest m that tale time bet yam twelve avers age, if ,_meshing like this bed not Wen dime, the wethring and death that mast hme manned tees homed Measiden. Bat Main= have Awed twelve months te sad, with all this sea maims% they non act may gnat mmeame. mimes le mouth as this eseth.diat twelve moths ltesse do moo op. peal set be made to as again. (Hem Ist.) lem met asLmei to use the term " comprehmiete moseeme." Ice 1856 you had a manatee of thb hems en the stets of Ireland, and had seessares of great bamatemes mem mamba by that esmemittoo—a ..amines emilding et I. gentlemen it the brihighest duataiiir eml der dittos, owl parties, be English meths", st , high imam& Why eme mot the resommoniktfens of that Nauman* admits& ? Why, Memo is 1.856 her Yelesty's Mainers wen messiag ma measares for Ireland of a very different tom and atheist obscener. I need not allude again to the epprepelatiem cause. Yen had, in 1836 and 1836, a monk railed against the Meese at Lords, bemuse they were net delft " justice to ledend," and the of the filfaisa was reatemended In emerenemee at their Yon wmt on, year after year , Mommerwthrg mmallital expedients for the state of ot Ire bed. Year ter yea were smiled upon by a powerful Winking to do " belted," and the definition of *dee to Ireland was, mehnilating the institutions of the twoconatries. WA, the 'mediations of the two countries are medmilated, sad yaw have get a peer-law, of which you now empleio. ("No," sad " Yther.")Well, at last the consequence it podgy to Ireland—the soesequases et explaining all the ameba at that sentry emery bySitical muses— :roc.' asethweitia no slcubt, the famine of have hued se south, but w only precipi tated the seissinelem white you could sot have avoided. What is the univereallyAdthowledged measure of the people? Agitation. The political system of political agi tation by which you attempted to govern that country, and, by so governing that coun try , propped n a pol itical in England,—that entirely f (near, ear.) 47.7, you may say, that had it not been for the Whys of the po tato in more than one year, it would not have failed ; bat I my that system taught the people to rely oa other energies than their own—that it taught them to believe that there were extraordinary means to support them—that tau govera meat of this country must come forward to maintain tLm is mostents of stiffening and depression. (Applause.) Well, that system has failed. It is In vaia that you can NM he ward now with mock reforms and plans of income* bow chime with any idea that you can convince the pimple of England, whatever may be their political party, that them are the means to secure the good government of Ireland. (Applause.) What is next measure ? Do you take &lemon from the dull e ce of the past, and do you at lest attempt to grapple with the great evils which you an no longer refuse to acknowledge ? That is not the course of the government. (Hear.) The 03111110 of the government is to come forward to acknowledge the existence of these inna— te vir.nally acknowledge that they cannot remedy them, sod to ask the people of England to supply them with tem • or exceptional mean ,—( hear, bear)—by which they may 6oLter up a system which has broken down under them. My ant objection to this objectionable vote is, that it relieves the government from the responsibility which ought to de volve upon them. (Hear.) I use the felicitous epithet of the right hon. gentleman the member for Ripon. (Hear, hear.) Imy it was the duty of the government to have measures prepared on the subject of the area of taxation—(hear, hear)—oar the arrears of rates, and that ;they ought to have brought forward some measure with reference to the lands thrown up. (" Hear" and applause. 1 These I call statesman. hke and comprehensive measures. But what to the measure before us ? Is it an alternative ? Lit an alternative in Lien of the measures the country had a tight to expect ? It is ac knowledged by them to be exceptional. How temporary it is likely to, be has been stated. An hon. gentleman said that it was calculated to last a fortnight. The hon. member for Stroud said that lees than half a million sterling will not suffice for the present year, in order to keep life among the people. No member of the government has denied his calculation, and it would be difficult for any member of the government to deny the correctness of h is cetimate, since the very papers on the table of the house prove that we can show that a larger sum is necessary. (Hear.) In deed, the other night when an hon. friend of mine impressed on the house that an estimate of the expenditure in Ireland should be laid on the table, we seemed to be hardly aware, and the iovernment seemed to be hardly aware, that the paper estimate was already furnished na. However, hon. gentlemen will have no difficulty in finding out now, for the paper is here, that the sum of 692 , 0001 . is the calculated expense of maintaining the population of the 21 suffering unions. (lieu, hear.) Well, when the minister comes forward, as he has to-night, and argued the whole case on the vote of 50,0001. he is in fact, and intro Tonally of course, palming a delusion upon the house and the country. (Hear, hear.) This day fortnight there may be another vote. (Hear, hear,) ) And what will be your position at the end of the session, and at the end of the year ? Will the habits of self- reliance which we wish to encourage he fostered and cherished by these systematic loans ? (Hear, hear.) Who can flatter himself for a moment that when the House of Commons meets again this time next year, the first recom mendation of her Majesty, and the first act of the minister of the crown, will not be another appeal to the charity of our constituents, unless, in the interim, those compre henries measures recommended by the honourable member for Ripon be introduced. (Hear, hear.) And what chance have you of obtaining the introduction of these measures if you yield to those feelings wh:eh the hon. gentleman, the member for Cockermoutb, has dilated upon ? If you acknowledge that Ireland is to be looked upon as a dy!ng beggar in the street, and you are prepared to keep her alive for a fortnight, what chanty is it to the people of Ireland? What justice is it to the people of Eng land ? (Cheers.) Now, there is another point of view in which we ought also to consider this ease. We ought to take some moral from the past, and having entirely failed in governing Ireland by a system of organised political agitation in alliance with a political party in England, we ought to come forward and tell the people of England that we are at least alive to our errors—Wet it is absolutely neces sary that a new system should be established, • new Gomm of conduct pursued—that it is not enough to come forward and say, in the phrase of a loose rhetoric, that Ireland has unfortunately been the battle-field of party, but th at we are resolved henceforth that these feuds should cease, that these ' feuds should not be teetered for the aggrandisement of a party in this country—that at a moment when the spirit of the people in Ireland is softened by allo t ws think a befitting opportunity is afforded ' of reconstructing the society of that country in a spirit and on a system which may produce very different results to those which we have hitherto experienced. (Applause.) But I ask you what chance you have of obtaining these re ' suite, if you follow the policy which her Majesty's ministers are now recommending to you ?—a policy which they de scribe u exceptional, when we want a policy that will be aystemitic and permanent. I hops the Item, notwithstand ing all that has been said, will pane before they ratify this vote. (Hear.) The noble lord at the head of the govern ment told us the other night of his extraordinery measures ! Why I object to this vote is, that it is not an extraordinary measure. It is an ordinary manure, • vulgar measure ; the last mean expedient of a government who know not how to oope with the difficulties they are obliged to encounter. What I wish to imprem upon the house ta, that they have a responsibility. This measure must not only fail, lest fail speedily. In a very few days—la a very few weeks at moet—you will have a fresh appeal made to par li ament. You will have to make fresh explanations to your emit& (mete. They may in the present Igraine* allow it to pees in silence throughout the country, thinking itisavote of 60,000 i. which is to save the lives of 200,000 penons. That Medea may influence them, as it Me influenced the hoe. member for Cockermouth. Bat when they NM they have saved the lives of those 200,000 persons only for a fortnight—that in a fortnight's time, or a month's time, a fresh appeal is to be made to their feeling. and to their poekete—when they re member that even if a fresh meets is incurred they an only getting deeper into the mire, and that ultimat*, alter expending upwards of half a million, they will he :14Vto face thus difficulties which now they with is , d you may depend upon it the postale *Lan_ Them meth ter of this house, who has no regard for the filelMge d bit' mastituemM, will not be a very comfortable me, whose enly vindiestica of his vote is sympathy for the :pooch of the Clumeellor of the Exchequer. Meer.) I hope you will hesitate before you esaetim this vote. I reknce that this home has not allowend, the vote to pm over in eme, • ome manmr. Thewhole at fa question Inland was bound spar, beer.) Mth this vote, and askew they made a Mai es this maim he saw nothing bat a future of eggneed eolleelog owl be pending distress for eve* kesself. (Hear.) Mr. RICE would vote against the motion of tho hes. member for Stroud, because he wished not to Wilma Ms cesaltsents by selling them that wee a loan at It never would be repaid, was in reality a great hear, and laughter.) (leer, Lord C. HAMILTON said that he was prepared to do bad the four law system, of which, curious to say, be was general supporter, Nees the attacks made against it that evening essenthat beelevantly; bat, as the subject was not upon the }ep ee for illemeloe, be would not then enter into it. He - would support the vete, because, as was said, " the ham leas an are," and because he regarded it in the light of a an-.cape. (Hear, and laughter.) Mr. MOORE would support it, because he considered it a questket of life and death with some thousands of his fellow matures in Ireland. Mr. P. WOOD protested against the construction that those who append the vote were prepared to allow the pm . pie to die. He, on the eentrary, opposed it, because be wished to says ilsem from shinatiom (Hear, hear.) Col. DUNNE said the owe was ono astern necessity. Col. SIBTHORP avowed his detersriaation not to vote with the government on say *moat. Mr. HUME asked how it wee possible that this small pint could give employment to the Irish which was what Wry waited ? At the sad it a IbAafgilt they would be just as badly otr as before, or rather the evil would be la. creased. After • few words from Lori J. Itussam, Mr. J. O'CONNELL protested that to reline the gru a s would be nothing short of murder. (" Oh !") Mr. P. SCROPE said he would not trouble the betook divide on his alasadessat, as the debate had not tamed he that subject The eaawsducat was accordingly withdrawn, Lord D. C. STUART, who had another amendment en the paper. said it was hardly poerible for him to proceed whak it at that late hour (half-peat 12 o'clock). He put it hills house whether he could with any fairness be eapeoted:to to. (ie Go on, p on.") Lord J. ItUtitißLL hoped the noble lord would mow, sad anspeted that the house might very well sit as how loftier, not haring sat on the preceding night. Iir:BANS/dB reminded the noble lord that, dim d o moandinents were disposed of, there would Mill remain the main nwesUen. Sir W. H. BARRON hoped the debate would be ad journed. Kr. E. B. ROCHE sled he had been most anxious toils. liver bie eentinsents on the question, and had not yet had ft opportunity to do No.__ - - Bit A. H. BARRON having moved the adjanenaeat nt the debate, this gallery was cleared for a division. The house then divided. Against the adjournment For the adjournment -166 . Lord D. STUART said that the house having decided he so bowed e • majority that the dilute should be contin ue d, b• to that decision, end would proofed with the motion of which he had given notice. Although he filth impoodble for him to refute voting for the grant, seeing that the gee.. tion was neither more nor less than one of life or &mg with regard to many of their fellow-subj ects in be land, he confessed It was with pain he made lig his mind to do so. But extraordinary occasions regalggi exceptional treatment. Assuming, therefore, that the grout wee necessary, the question arose from what source ?Waft to emelt He had voted that it should come from impala sources in the Brat instance. That was the course that ha. malty dictated, but he considered that there was a mode d reconciling humanity with justios—a course by which the money of the people of this country might be returned them. The mode promoted by the hon. member for Strand seemed to him to be illu•ory. His own he considered to be tufts practicable. It would be in vain to look te tin unfortunate unions for the money advanced. But that war not the ease with Ireland at large. The rate for the whole of Ireland was not more than 2s. Nd. tt the pound, and a very small addition to that wo= back the amount of the grant. When it was that 10,000,0001. had been already voted for Ireland, that she was exempt from a great portion of the heavy taxation of this country, and that the poor rates of Entilud wies raised in consequence of the large influx of Irish pupae, he did not think it was too much to ask the peep it Ireland to take upon them this burden. The noble lord moved that the 60,0001. to be issued out cf the consolidated fund, ter the pupses of affording relief to certain distressed poor-law unions in Ireland be advanced by way of loan, to be repaid by means of a rate to be levied on the whole d the unions m Ireland, except the unions receiving oath relief. Mr. BANRES maid that he would have weeded teats great readily had the government consented to propose it ea the last which in this shape was to be given. He was still ready is accede to this grant if ministers would consent to the stipulation that had been proposed. Lord 3. RUSSELL said that he could net concur in the amendment of the hon. member for Northampton, for that was tantamount to a vote of censure on the gos whines he had permed precisely the same course : I nt been taken by former ministers under similar circumstances. With respect to the observations of the hon. member be Stroud, he must say that the present grant ought to be wads unoonditionaly as a gift, and not as a loan. He 'greed so de with the noble lord the member for Marylebone that the present grant ought not to be charged upon Ireland as a AU to be provided for by a spec:al rate, but he certainly did think that it might bosoms a question for the future emit. derision of parliament whether any further grant ought eat to be charged on some fund in Ireland, out of which it might be repaid. Sir H. W. BARRON protested against any rate in 'ail being charged on those districts in Ireland where the poor were not found so destitute as in the .estem unions. Seth a course would pauperise those landlord, who had dos their duty to their tenants, and it would be an act of aqui injustice, cruelty, and impolicy. (Hear.) Mr. REYNOLDS said that he should support the gown. meat, and he only koped it was the precursor of easy others of &much larger amount. England had taken upea herself the responsibility of governing Ireland, and one of the duties thus imposed on her was that of feeding the people, (A laugh.) After a few words from Mr. Pigott the house divided, when the numbers were— For the amendment 9 Against it The house again divided upon the main question, what there appeared— For the motion l2B Against it 39-89 The report was then brought up and received. IRISH FINANCES. On the motion of Mr. MACOREOOR, returns were ordered, Of the amount of the debt of Ireland at the Union. Of the number and amount of loans contracted on account of Ireland from the period of the union until the Exchequer of Ireland war united with that af Great Britain, in the year 1817. Of the amount (if any) whisk has been paid off, out of the Irish revenue, of the Irish deli due at the mien, and of the Irish debt which accrued after. wards, down to the union of the Irish and British Exchequers. Of the amount (if any) of the said debts which ha been pdd teem the soneolidated fund Once the union until the year 1814 Of the total amount of funded end unfunded Irish debt, Lockable Boating Exchequer Bills, which was funded In England from the due of the anion until the union of the two exchequers in 1817. Of do amount of loans contracted on amount of Ireland from the union et the two enure in 1817 to the Sth day of Jan.. 1849. Of the amount if say of such loans as ban been repaid, diatinguishieg de amounts ( paid ( any) out of the consolidated revenue, and (Urn out of the revenue levied in Ireland. Of the gross rum levied in Ireland each year, from the Sth day of Jan., 1811, to the Stb day of Jan., 1849, cliatinguishieg the expense of colleetia, and the other payments out of the Irish revenue in Its way to do Exchequer. Of the total gross expenditure of Ireland foe each yet, from the Sth day of Januu7, ISIS, to the sth day el January, ISM distinguishing the amounts (if an ) repayments of loans, of redo. the Irish debt funded in or transferred to Imbed, the civil, military, naval, and route ulary expenditures and Intend pad on Irish debt funded in England or transferred to Bohn /. d which have been each year paid out of the consolidated and out of the revenues collected in Ireland. Of the (if any) width has been redeemed of the lash debt hen Be date of union to the sth day of January, 1849, Catthi ments out of the coneclidated fund and out M the reven= Ireland. Of the total amount which remains unredeemed MON Ida debt funded in England from the union to the sth day ot Immey, 1849. Of the amount of Irish debt funded In England on the elk der of January, 1819, and amount of interest payable thereon est of he consolidated fund. And, of the amount of Irish debt iambi In ke. land on the Sth day of January, 1849, and the sources from width Ihe Interred duo thereon Is paid. IRELAND REVENUE BILL. This bill wan read a third timo and passed, and the other orders having been disposed of, the house adjourned st s quarter pest 2 till Monday next. Vie erpregYi. The mil filbraltar, Malta, Gre;;, the lonian I,la Adm. Oeglem, Imdfa, Hong-liong, and -via Sou be made seem the morning of the Seth Fab. The imam ler British North America, and the United glib will be table dip on the evening of the 23rd Feb. The me&Zie Mermillea, to the Mediterranean, leek hive 0 , 7k 41 . 11 Maw&Mamg, ha, will be made Up on the webs el the 4th The malls tom VI" Oporto, Madeira, Cadiz, end Ofinhar will be made up as - Se of the 17th Feb. The seas ten New hea th Wale,, Van Dieman's Lend, tad New x. MI be reads lip am the owning of the 28th Feb. The =Gift the Net Meet se Aides and Madeira will be mei op en the emf*g of the Ilith Fab. The Net laMe 1140 e. imbeling Bermuda, Name, Ha asNew Odom. and Meld" and excluding Meet Br New Granada, MN, and Pere, he mit ip ea the mereing of the gad et as The mane ger litalithm, the Bergs, sad gown Afro, WI be made up on the seeming of the 4th Msrdt. MON WATER AT LONDON DEMON, Tan MT —KlOOl2e. 0 o g. 0 000 I Alteooooo. 00 oh. Pry L To-Xeruaw--Marslai, IS lAA pot 10; Attemooa, Of ale. pa 10. LONDON, SATURDAY, FEB. 17. OP all the politicians who are interested in the affairs of Italy, and who are observing the conduct d the Austrians in Milan, we are confident that now can be so supremely delighted with Marshal Raorreau and his policy as Signor Mama, the republican. Mauna's especial aversion has bete directed towards the wealthy and well born of Mille. To humble them would afford him as much satiefao• tion as it would please M. PROUDHON to confiscate belt of the capital of the Parisian bankers. Mauna had great influence in Milan daring the successful insurrection, but he never dreamed of hum bling the aristocracy by any such sweeping meter& He was too honest a man; and, though a republwase no communiat. Bat Marshal RADEDINI has undertaken to do the democratic work that MAZZINI shrank firm. He has flung the state burdens with the expense of the military occupation and administration of the Milanese on about a more of its rich proprietors. He has ordered them to pay down 600,0001. Such a tax is, of courses not upon rentaL It is too enormous. They mod sell their ropaty; some must sell all their propel , ' to meet and how saleable land may be, and hew facile it is to find capital and purchasers at such a moment, need not be described. The decree is pr.& timely the suds as if M. Luau; RoLuN, after the Tito tory of February, should have ordered Messrs. RON& CIEILD and his brother bankers to ransom themeelvm and their property by paying down so many millions starling. This communist policy of Marshal Ravirrsa3 however, an organ and a panegyrist—in the Oiler. Marshal Ruarsa, that paper tells us, had to 461.1 ~~ .