The Express. — London, England, 1849-03-09 00:00:00

Job. I am led to With, being at the aims Warates, there oar assessors looked ups the mialaramas d the peer the taht ef ePthetterahedoe. This bow of the wale awn me to algal* it it a eagle leamee. To allow :atria by linens hi 111 Mime ureasity sad vie elsothees, she mese asawaisat way to deka p• palm al pawn papers/ is M seembliale a passim. Bet im diet *ma dm quake I dm setae why the has astwasn to east Wes shads shoal be leviedapm ray • pass of the pointy a the whsle emmanity. Bat 1 sae mealsamos a the pa is vital is a the sermitry mad • is this • houe. resperildist ia as • renal daty al ass qualm of high de s Why, sad we teal that it is pissed under the swabs o r g asm; (Hear, hear.) But if the 'anatomies a the . ffige be, a. I ISM it to b., it mems tbig elm be the duty r e i — o seg as to contribute towards it *this oar mew, bear.) And is • comearry las e" when aa 'wrist sad crispbread system el radiogram abste, it is perlyrepomible that you sea lay k down m • pdmdple that rasp mast mast suppers Wawa poor, sakes yeas apas d it km pedal be poor—(hrer)—aad sabre you ma k om m• mith district from the samorpomess of au kik bum, which interferes with the sop your oposen a the pow, (Sew, bear.) The very amides from war to pas throws gads he riot oat of 'spay ; sad yet parishes do mot de thes war or 'asks pro They saideratims will kelp to amer • r oom er the cirouseramos taseeted with this los ( Hear, far.) The altscaticas et' fairs Welts armor • ass of pow im • diarist which had as lawn be nesting w be thelishiag tha• famitioa. The imeatioa of a mathime is Laserehine will have the effect if throwing a whole village fa Nothampesmala. oat a m etedln macy of tr y peas of the seimay, whim the rasa are imirshalledi hese& employ*/ ask peer, what is the Oast ? Why, these very draws wore sae the nab K meameastures whisk are maw theshere. They have mashed and loft the pew sa the MA aide has a= beam able to Meath them. That is sae of the ewes = ai r wawa • maim ham bees a meat to the reproselice to which I 'refer, the =she mike them *bay ke es i di goZte the carers hem M the poem ths bearbi dames, art alto apt w t= Wad the het th at lisr — "-u, whisk has bat M as sash tavola dem is be eemew lams, as alba to give high mic a. (R/or.) 'WW ill us __Sailtioss Mr reetteethee oedemas/ ifikSU r hid buom poison( by rr il eire a val ti of the Was abide it hearty pa used la ether drairts. Iff ,riew therefore, ado them sir gameraces, all a whisk bath* • highly . p m elate of parety,ma you apse a peeet id i e llse • then seal bag to die amber a dm let re lay with Wk. MOO th• *IV ripAted hhat either the maim meet =the poor ow else she ompleysee ? To la 10 100 the cause rash lam cis laramkg pelt at of week are the NOW by ads\ am, very aseploysis who are oiled wpm to support theft woo themalless severely die lured. The veto that ere lmskii ke the ametnestios sad look of boas is mother ketemes of the Warier sad We- Crd this system of SWAM. It es veryzio say eam might to the reads whisk me, best M the lest pkos I la this ea the that Is is not kistaneally am tit the foam were origiaally oiled oa :e asalatala the perk. If it MVO Mee that the liame, sad hey caly, veal die paha leas, thea awe night be ma t jetties is disk eashmioly orappolai them Bat as everready we these reads—se pear to the maireesal =team of railways the whole essamereial sad ammafactorieg asearausity used thess—all lassumedi as • ferristr ass hart the perish ff the read militia Ise Imadario be sea se to muse am Num to the wheel el his chaise—it mart be admitted that the rah are am serwtsd for the me of thee math and that the public have • right to reatawas I. a fair pm portion to their maisterame. New Ist me ask what item in our attiresal espaitun cm supra this am lyre, by which the'clus of tame I bare hoes dabs with are tested, that of Wks levied on bath Malta hr heel purposes ? I will 'appose a esoitry:patlemea, di la sae of the Halal amatim wars to look over the asemeam hr the 'wise a the year, with the Wades of oramkj ibestf them, whisk I sus led se baba is sew • (A laugh.) He epee Oat pegs where the mbe rw tasissus brawl% of then is sat awn, mad 'Ands the lest ben to be 700,0001. for die prase sera& He says to 11=94 " Who h it tha t, rare OAP WIOWNOWS gutsy ?" He ban that duee-fourthe K the letters embed by the mails are not by the merthaats sad mmallesturers of Limped. Be asks himself thensaafasetk la erode., "Whet he I, emstry gestitman a alba lisriet to do with the pet ealmatos— Let • este be sack for this 700,0001. up s . aw l sad Liverpool: (Hear.) This is • clear case of local ration be toed think. And as this midland may patina, like the Wag el Bohemia, knows ao aim &brut ports and Imams, he may say with respect to the amp kr seast, rsi a ramie that a rats ma be arum the the parb—(a hawk)—for this bees ia the wale, maim, h• may by dollar to the shop kw limitary inspectors. Bat this arsaty madam Mel not take die same view of the meta which the easacial reformers of Liverpool do. (Hu, kw.) He has gem oa year after year in th e wise sad paean spirit of his rue, wintributiag his porta to the par bodes& of audio all MOW fora moat= loggia.. Bat if you per.. the sago& la this paint of view you will lad eves still mom Balmiest oases of exclusively load and miss expeaditars which it banes by the landed class is amass with those who masks It foe their own istwest I will take the followlai as oat of many that offer thou edam to my matey. BM yews ego the Liverpool arr. shoats soassivied etimaelves to be extraely vexed sad opposes& be teems' es their Oath Americas Made. They besieged Dowslagomet with their complaints sad aim Ash, mak* repeated midamatioas calling me the govern mat to violate their /*ha, rid to protect their cam mew. The minister at that time holm sea rotary was as =primped sad able statesmas. Up to that a seat he had been a station. sad wary oae—(a laugh)—but awed by the representations sad wespaists of the Liver pool merchants, he was lamed to meddle with the affairs of La Pak What woo the coasemoses of this meddling ? A vat it:pendia, of mousy, and a Goaltending amount elf karalliadom. In six yews six suasive Meister. had bees sent thither, and all that the 'pantry patina of the aired 000nties, who have acceded tea" expenditure cam s ad by these moddliap, blow of the result is, that those very same Lammed meetheate who urged the minister to cossawima this interference, are mew attackin the goversarat because of its evil,- wont t of the* say sad navy, which flaw allege a merely kept up la order to moppet the sha kes of tie taiabsoney. (" Her sad • laugh.) Thal, I !mike is shod es dear et ea Is the ealkesemeat of that keel Mistime which, it is eribadol, is Judy lama as the Yeti K delsommay to the moat of tea ce have mßYmmm Let us time lea I et ffeareestes: A few year* ego the meam. hawses of larishaser wee skr eo tlist the yak a the Chimes maga, wombi goals, wireMrisoly Is be the best ouseemee they ewe All the home a bate, all the laremem cameo reek bets the shade, aad beam ea mains be the mesa Mararkater when compered with the Casa, who, if they oak spent individually es meek epee silver as would =mat to a sovereign • year rpm Maacheserr 1111WOMOill/Iy would caste aa 'nocuous dammed. They form=oseaeroat isle a war with hi abaft Now, my wraith- Maas' all that as boa se= semp li rdity, is not Mils se all a istelleet but that he might have sea to ka tabolism he dal lard of the undertaking, " I have my ~As abut lii bias; I ham sea madking about Chia be bead books mailska be the lawn whisk his demeasil to am Mere la that k is ast likely, ma eildabaasi ewe we 300,016,01•Ohlues, they wit ever be able to • very exemadm "soma with re, fw litetheree maim to fie we be mama hi= sl = Weald@ b may ethatle : sei ri lzail. The of Makster as wholly k disk sageadeas Mk apostle their talk Chia, sail what de AM de ? They any it is very true the Chimes have bat ads to ills us le_ adage far war goods. Bat there is ea able whish O ela supply sad we mad make the govenimat rodeo the duty as taik eider that they may be alb Mahe sea clear maamhotesah Bat say saidleaseriy a—'-mom obi " Tas is ay al he the meas. Mao am 100,000,000 albs. lesoght mats Beiglad, tad It wa wa let were be et to rata the deny. Why met take a the duty_ as ma. Why should we met Pram leas pea llama lease aka my 'ratioslad as leas WpM alit I Imp t shall mamas to do." Aid rhea the Cbi w war as dead, sad the Mots a ldose assmiemed by it hay fthed, what, Ist a ask, was awe whisk woad lam mom tho same plea* tat Is ham, er e lesil—to have wish a rate ea Massitester to s" the of this war, which wo anima warily by the esst aahrtorees there ? BY, it is the some is W emptytralo—it is the same be ths shout Mot the easalc z ato irlhotthoors with hererilk this maid= a the 1 MB he homed emse 1/ so son ken Mit leademea have to Ne oft be this home, aware Oil ell se well Waled, opesially spa them sestlese, that assesast saimpprthea as prevails with aped to thew /few the weary rate is a tam hoed—am mime esa that is read fa fhb esualm— • Meet to kr the popsies if judos. Aad, ir, ablest the your 1536, as le haws to the Maas. the 'mentor= of this meal, ewe the r r t t *vet be apes the had *this esisliy, eetwiewed by the arms waft the amelatisa el speed to pay sae bit Ile ere et aloha' peneaeas. 'Mt we. OM whes ut ler su elt u riblis abeam bobs gala to it, sad there was a impedes be the hewn, awl is the awatry to a MA dip's, that the leaded lama as mmel W mama ed. iialep et the mishear ia a week reemat. mil by sew sou sr Whir, had got rid a ea, of disk peat berthas. allied Mewl it apse the basal tesseam. (Cheese sad let) That woo la the me HIM I treat to show yea cuaty rats is emessied—fer what. it Is ea- I nest call year attwatisp i be maw to sleet a _lbh era he ei these aim ma se jugu lar • Pike arid, is it at se reseal a pieta ea the year INS. I isM Wt pried, bassos emberpeady to it, ke IS* deep ef a peculiar atm wee wade by the NM hew bort. the amber far Tasseporth, with :err-' km Is eat este, sad ta which I sea wheat to Mk. It is Baas who apt that to adessimad the ameba of captivity PI alai thee hewsdftle captive • sad le pat fa a payola: 111 lehre the *e aware it the amity rate I will left she to mg one aspadoome Om day at the aims, which wail shim you how the asap raw era seat the somity, sad haw Mr sad to what tepee the musty may bebarested be die oases of that expenditure MON than °II bee. patheata who sits I. this home. • wawa came down to • halo Is the esanty with whisk I as seemeted—to • plops well ksows to everybody—ilahla ark Yea the borders of Berkshire red BedoMaialk The stager took a Unable lodging, I beam r •• hem A few days ars:wards • man peseleadi assemela rith the woman, comes dower by the rearsokathe its, sad lards n her. Hs leaves tialtkill, the ebtdio tagyreph eases kiss to be arrested before he &Masao& as meant be anises in Loadon—the murder having bees braedistely distensred. He h therein ameba la Middlesex ; but the arise was eemmilted In - beethathearkire. The man is taken beck to SAW ad is swatted to the wanly pa! at Aylesbury. The ens of a difficult kind,lesanse the murder was it was that esianilis men sheath be seel rriw . to various pith et The Oki was esesegmatly my sapon ify': bet _arloshrg was eenvisleksmd earraga society was vindbothed by the enemies elf lbs Quaker Tawe I. (Bear, beer.) The clerk et the pests, half the *s pume at tie less gausseatiew was &bayed the govern. mimik ad se I hues ellsa beard IS unjustly de. leta=the gwernmsnt, mist is hi 1111—it was a Est and bill ; but by quiets was SUL (Hear, hear.) New, I watt le blew whet bed that wady te do with that crime i (Cheese.) The um didn't live, wain't boss, was not wan sesseal in the count/ of Bucklaghale; but that was ens et I the nada in wiliest the county rate until very rases* waisted. (Chews) Take motkw ease. Oa the sum day ' hemmed that ea one of the mask thick pass ugh Mat' sesely $ man was coming with • cargo of web, on whkh he bealeummitted . • robbery, in the et Rutland, at et may.H e was arrested iii ire—was 1717di Ibt emisly, wee kept • time in mei, ad the adi he its trial and coneklisa was upwar& et WM, he loin as meta to do with the county of Bucking. hue Men with the Zero el Connems. (Cheers.) Now, labs steether easkeerlthwe three essemed all the sante day, mit and theserg ththeene rate. A draper's a drarithist me to tbeemieseunty ha. a burglar, nanowittad his Bread cloth to dm value of 201. Is din The berg* is discovered, arrested, sent to the esmity psi and Ind at the meaty seam. Tie whole opens it pall by the esesep tan while **goods, the Meth is tend. et the rap trukessen, to ?indium whose ofstes of property OW ewers was incurred, ere exempted it/ pesq l a i t e r a weadbellag le ) sei pert of the m eo n c i atz Skis. if the mid appending isf courZ, myths half the mama tom :Sous, as lath* iliss esseis I balk gland by what emu Inn has ` to 1100 WI% as Owens, as kollW is .uu*siel._ ( caw) Tat tkas ens nee kr been deporibsd as • furtive Imessehy . the add Mien hilted en of their ne amp *Owe aof this ewe becks ea to the na- Wewill b ; (Cala) um We Ned admit hat, tke e ile mem th the l member tla for Tamworyth,w teithell die ether misty of Os sweaty rate, so that no tar dier lila um be sea imMe the bi ll s of Sewell, the Quaker, cal she tartar eases of ma occur like those of the r(Hear, hear.).Alut bow was that eat of tardy dem i (Clisime.) TM right ham be met with 1e .....,...tdis raft et the ease was nalmee r eehable. ° lie met Ise • Irecint, upon test work& tiled be my lathes that the junks et the frienteg thsa esie aid emets which were mat by anal eimetles to Wallin pebile judos, end to Odin p en *in et engird mien. Bet the right hen. tmensin relist to the holed Inns. epee the me. minis aced= (seepeeder whisk I hand le ham me Ms swiss es be as len amend at this tine) cm whisk he it et that gnat end harden readies whisk ► it b i re . ra d eerie/. taiine.) That am et _taking et the ease MU of the easeity• evening tee tenpresee time wean teed infant wIllaino• et eampasselha that he preterit theinsesioe—(opplesee ken the paean hi nehn)—•• phis a great Asti appeared to me that all hair reguitdvss. that it Ann hove been stated proT e l a i Ii this haa t en that me pssienies, et whatever poll et of whiner easeptias. bat must have telt that elms eirataking net emly we bet shabby, in making a eralar dos pay all One esse in which the whole was se deeply ememisA (Cheers.) But having sew won two swats mar dem, at Swag InSenals, with gnat ftlty with ell Me lament oink a any pow. eul whim, could intarelas, dame Set tine juin in that slight respect to the swam and assegai et land, what is the result, as for se relief pose. with regard to that wry tax i Why the sewy Mei are hisnmsed la amount notwithataadieg thst the promeeinsat haethssadves under taken the maws etas Medal pressallems. (Hear;) I have heard it mid fa this hews that the Wean I. that int peel is seseented fa by its adasiehnein si ke r eetlenne wk, NW ark, Into the goblin ., t ifiir eir in not agendas Ss mdse edits, sad by the et tax not hefts pined fa the power eif the et the county. Thulium gentlemen the maker for thearese has often urged that. (" Haw, haw," from Mr. Ion) Now, sir, in the Ilithplass, hats. show yea this, that eau the state having enue to relieve the esendes hates the burdens of criminal presseatime, the while et the nasty rates of this country, with the empties et use item, and that relates topublic works eta greet sad univer sal boned e whole et theseenty rates, with that lie* exception, are still expended he the adattaistratiou of justice. I have Ware me the lest abstract of the accounts of the answer et the county of Buckingham, and I have reason to believe that it Is a fair representation of what occurs In every other meaty. After a par esis expenditsure on bridges, very heavy in • county through width the Thames_ and wan hr one great bridge they am been tidied I to used, thumb it is not a rich county, 27,000/.--the aspenthin ef the manty, with that exemption, is soinstkiag abseil LIAM. a yew—the whole of it caused ty the wpm. he abolishing Julia— nne et the poses, ceremen masinemense et the gaol, lock up lenessA waveysees ef peinness, sod ask Ina (Hear, ssem.) The nonage ben he prosecutions, and for the mammies. of ends? particular dr cunistarsoo. is IND this 4, Visrefore, still two-thirds of die espendimie et that limy. and way other county iS la as sum esmilion. - is la his he the admatadetrattun use justice—(.lot).rtle tironnotaisos which interest all, and kr eager in wadi dime 111111111111 MIL ' Bet, sir, we are told that the County elle, netwithetesdiag that the government et the conatrtleure dome Steward to the relief of the coun ties, is otill binessiflag, mad that it is because those who ad ' sibillet the fad. of lb. counties are unequel to the am ! des.That is the patios of the hon..membw to, Montrose. '("Hear, hear,' from Mr. Hume.) Well, I tell you, it yes go to the finance committee of the county of Deane's* you will find your match. (A laugh.) There are men tare in financial abilities equal he the honowabk member for Montrose. But year altar year,' you &get that yea have been pedal/ laws in this house lacing those distrieti to raise the most expensive haddlege-,-(chows)—and them no option whatever in the mistier. (Bean& .) The hon. member far Illemben Oaks of the of the hada. Why, all owil ihst the eagistrates ean do tout as anises under ea act et pothimesa, and to declare a rate to meet the expenditure which pea is your legislative capacity have agreed to. (Caw) Ide not rap day_ that those pines, biii4 on the to whisk side Men (Lord Mahon) re r= sons Is lis innediag vans tonight, are matters et greet Far be It hen IN to deny that the &lassoed of the ego do net cal l for those aresticus and kr the alias althea improved dissipline. (Olsen.) Bat net I meintela is that this is a geese mind theta)—the this is a rest mensal par an no be on =fir than that a highly saamgsnS and mete sheen post laws and Witt es &Irish the Wang of the meet expenaive pub & en thee le pay for those pubric silk adliligs, en. Weil, eh, I niainlii that this local taxation Is set raked ht local wapease—th le raised, I say, far anima papaw ; and I ea penny swan of the objer don that yea _will bring again me when I make that ad shies. West is, eir, that the revalue et this wantry his been said twang an win two spawn There is a mo dem spasm et hived tannin to width all are subject ; thane li Shedd gran si..stant tannin to which only the aid pespenlssablen, which has its all teen the old pro w% sad wish it at its pismire. (Cheies.) air, it would est he dills& le shew Immt, hi theses= eine that mon sine sate et Whirs has Mai Se pen—how it lies hNead that the nal prepeety of thh winky. ahead meste be subjected to OW is abaft renal tenths of the estuary like all Caw while, at the seas time en anon. Broady. it hos hese eltirpul to beer the borne of another renew Theof the amensf ae, hes n ot as mann of twelve millions sterli n g. , I rat sisod—l slam e t hic, that the grievance has en Lag lat. But the dithesithe el dealing With it have been misiderable ; and I an wholly aware el the remedy whisk ;tartan undone Malswill may be too glad le Mks no. and which they y s is the eassasey inames of my staimmest, vie., that we shield have near* to a of Wien rating. Now, eh, I ben 'aril the *aim le that sr both el as esemsenal ned a pall tit=lirsit "m an how yam as hove In cheek whisk is misdeed he the einhleatien of & I = is a Shedd. lf Os it method soil en unwilling se ree up heel not mord, Won it amens as sammeniesi but he paled Nam ism mend will mg habit_ et esllsreannant et • dill ' grows she I . ) 'ikat, dr. therak I oink that = et * s, emd oar sane of heel sil . !set mine, eill, at the arms tine, I ask 1 lirm=se easr is = caLzdte ante meet br ley it down es MIS otitis =llia of eur motel silt .. .ha la order is mane aped r it is eas sa tbat see met aeon et the shall be .e*.i.d to unjust en t • (Ind neon.) Sr, I an mil =te e t in riming then nevi lathes the henna I isms as • ;dodge in peal rarely Ise so non ' Übe eellend to diet lemelks inn way ether . snot he. geteknes anfingthie eideethes Ie senses of reel meaty will le ms that that seniteleinth Ind is Wand sliawias by ser laws. (Near, ken.) The =sad limey duties ma sorely, I dare say, be linesta Nevi dr. he my em as s part, fir as lan int nigwii4, are I believe li s %ay that I area fee imp stamp ethers on the I will at nee isms that I ase . pantly reared to saw will innignien of that subject ia di hired sphie—(imisse)—emil Wide whh you in an endeavour hr the erillebis eppertismasat of Mu limilin iseu rers.) bat I and eplast that resign big ender the anise et the Inn to divert those hen the min which I have nmenred to being kneed. Can a laugh.) P a esemillee le brim foie r il las s St th. es% at I wtheappert your meths. mwsme !acid Ishassies red researek ellisimg e ( r eat runislT and I willyou my vote to any it. ) at lam brand t e e tell you—it would be dideepriens were I net to Nil yes—eln having as mak again as I an om ens* to the imeillgi el that qeselisa, it is my mamba that the {melt of year amain* wadi be very different hen that whisk stay of yen impost. Mood protectionist hero.) The. has se mask been nil era the subject, MO I mast One this appatesin et sang, this of the prisy da s serk i. is new rid ei themarant of I, the 200,000 d 1. is pin Mein* en directly by lan ; thelell lemehald propons, all esionedmil beans, are net Whin bi that - half milli ma the they pay not only kiwi dot, hot probate duty on, . (oheare.) And, sir, es far as minis end the landed interest Is weeerned, there is aloe imdeded la your probate and Ispt duty the stock of every turner who dies, and the prop sty of every proprietor of land THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, MARCH 9. 1849. who b satinet to those taxes : se that yen will had, if yea tannin this made* with the attention it deserves, aid the sheens of passion which I doubt net you will give to ft, that itis net the land which pays the lose MlLLboth of the pea tate sad legacy duties. (Ct , sem) is said genies of your present arrangement of "tampp. (Hear, hear.) I mein then observalont in no Mein eerie to the hon. gentleman opposite. I remember e e i=des, sad I will redeem it if ever he gives me as op p . But I do protest against the hon. gentleman or ampbadyie e pnikederly after what I have nal, introdusing I llimailiNOMMlS MOM late the airapls question which I ma plaster behre yea. (Cheers and a laugh.) Is it jen or unjust that real noperty, a quarter of the income of thercountry should hear them burdens exdosir ly in which property is enrlly keened? That is the question.— The hon. gasulsenan may say that all property is sot equally latersited. Bat if the hos. gentlemen take. a fine house in Berkshire tomorrow, I dare say he will trot over the roads is his neighbourhood—perhaps he will be a preserver of game—perhaps his keeper may be shot by • poacher—and the hoe. gentleman may prosecute the ponder at the &sib's, without coneritrating either to the highway or the county rates. (Hear.) Now, sir, the qumtion is, what, under those otracastanees, is the best met hod of settling this long vexed maiden. (Hear, hear.) Well, sir, I an afraid that I shall t bon. gentleman opposite who have very eaddemily annomeed that all I was going to do was to move au a enamittee, when instead of that, I shall ex. pre s my readiness, if the house will go into a committee of the wheelhouse, to offer a plea foe their adoption. (Hear ) And, el She plea hi founded in justios—es the plan is con ceived his spirit of concillatioa—l hope it will have the chases of ancesse. (Hear, hear.) Sir, I am perfectly aware that, in annuthig. to settle this question, nothing meld be more unwise than for the pawnor of real property to "dale too severely on poor ratee. I admit the, In • coney like lingiand, where a seem has existed LI• • considerable weed, however oppressive sad however zebu, the period of its deaden does not .alter the elmia. ef the arrarigestsat, or mitigate the natant of the °wenn bat still I • em guns *aware that, where • system has existed for y Wiry considerable time, dent as may be our ease, ft nelemary and it is wins to eon" lee ward is • spied eseepromine, I do not say, it behalf right to say, e: i l ivaitissal purposes; no person for monisat iv E tee not asthma purposes. Mb lied Mania patposes is levied only mune Midi nisei of the many ; we are ready to pay maellaseth,lat you have as right to ask us to pay men. We on ready ers pay our oat-fourth portion of the tee or twelve miliffeas,but you eaaaot allege any memo, soy grin' eel* which calk upon as to undertake • greater respead boity. Sir, I feel that it is of the greatest importune to maims:a the load admhaistratioe of affairs that at present obtains ha this nanny, sad therefore I shall sot propose in say way te phulte ths system of self goverment that at pretest Min I, therefore, saticipate that it will remain and levy the rates es hitherto levied, but I do say that, ma 'klub( all the dream . awns el the ease ; considering that the lead has nine slight exemption', which are really el vary Bede import, bet wink may be remembered at this minisat, animating together, I believe, to 140,0001. a year, bat width ft may be seaveniset to rid the lead of by chug iZatebbilatee thas exist ; masider the groat int== the proe local onnnen, the thee Os fame for w n hich the Cann shall be penanally 'band of wares be of eseslderable =M 1211. , esadderiog toe that this is • period la whisk portions of the empire, and all great beds mad be prepared to make great ascribe., I say in a spirit of eampreaden and • , I shoal propose that, the present_ enema of local adasinisetatios remaining, the present levylag of rates eentioulag, the local districts should be vollesesible for one moiety of this taxation, and that the other moiety should be contributed by the coesol dated fond—(hear, hear)—the (government having no difficulty, by the machinery which it at present possesses. with very slight modification', of obtainieg from the privileged properties their quotas. Now, sir, I take that to be a just pro position. I thick terms might have boss demanded, founded upon justice, extravagant and violent, but I thick that the proposition that I have made is one which all men, after due reflection, will consider a fair and reasonable preposition—a proposition founded in justice, recommended by policy, aid • proposition which, it put in practice, will give relied to the suffering portions of real property in a legitimate manner, not by their demanding any favour from the community, but only the recognition of their rights. (Hear, hear.) Now, sir, I am at a loss to conceive where the great opposition to this proposition will arise. I shall be surprised if any pence in authority rises in this house and maintains that this taxation of 10 or 12 millions is not a burden upon real property which no other pro pert ahem. As as the section of real ninny is whom cause I am not more advocating than the other, but whose distressed condition particularly has brought me forward to-night—es far as that particular section of real oroperty is columned, we have the opinion of the right hon. gentleman, the mem ber for Tamwerth, almost in the last speech that he made before the year 1846, recognising fully these bur dens. He placed his vindication of the corn laws, believe 13 late back as the year 1815 or 1841, when he was minister, urn the acknowledged burdens upon !and, and he substituted the system of taxation to which the resolution which I have laid on the table ref, hear)—but the prime minister of the mouse day— I am not going to read any old speech," of the node lord or any ens else; I em ring to refer to • docenneat much more interesting, and ills not my wish to say • word m the past; but on a memorable connion, whoa, sib= others, • men wand he eineere, sad thoughtful and gram. uneaten and went thus width he del with feelings of de ep responsibility; triton the acids bed failed in forming his government at the conmeneemene of 1846, and commun . mead, in language befitting the esetalos, his fellers to hie sovereign, he left in that dome solemn deneasek this pangs. " Lord John Rama is deeply sondem of the embarrassment caused by the present Mee of public WAS 1 he will be ready to do all in bin power, m a member el pee liamant, to promote the settlement of the question, which at paint is • same of so much duper, espeoially to the wel fare and pane of Imbed. Lord John Basset' would have formed a ministry on the basis of free trade in corn, to les established at MOB without dein ; he would have wimp paned that proposal with measures to relieve to a cuddle able extent the occupiers of land from the burdens to width they are subjected." (Cheers from the protectionists.) Well, that is • great authority in favour of those burden. The right hon. gentleman and the noble lord are my wit- nesses in answer to the'hon. gentleman, who, I doubt not, will get up in his places sad be able to maintain in • that real property is not subjected to imposts whisk sew property is liable to and unjustly exempt from. Well, Is It because they who are most powerful in this house are to be considered before all others, that her if ejesty's ministate shrink back from the idea of performing this great see of jetties of levying anythiag like an imp up th e privileged peoparties / That is imptatible. It L on only last year that they ems forward with • proposition to firissam the lamas tax ; net to do • great act of Judas, not to endlies rival slames, net le semen what may be considered an Wend and wined interest of great isportenutin Plai tT do whet? I never could make it ant, but I believe it wee te pay dimmable; hat if the militia had been called out, then thin ewe have been the militia rate, for which real pro pert* need have been liable. Well, then, coesidain that the nee lord sad the right hen. gentleman have both re =6l.4the minim of these burdens in their amplest and extent, masideriag that the proem which I negated as the means by with* this just appe aring* an take plate b a maddisery which the anis bed ma make nee of, I want to know what opposition I ea to resolve from the seena who are the pure names of liberal pebsiplan who are the vindkatcos of main every dime; whose hearts are always touched at the very so und of lejnolise. and who are always prompt to some forward to miner the 'weed t Are they going to complete the talons of their Muni 'doe, sad maintain that their pre penes shall be pri • ? (Hear.) They ma have no aberrant hostility to the proems of rdie whisk I have indicated ; they are all if them admirer of direct taxation; we have suffered mike it for many years' we wish you should taste traits. Under then eireunuitancen. consider the the maidea we pones of the opinion of loading men; esasideeleg the !milky with which the machinery of the bents ten may be extended by the present government ; the abstract approbais is favour of direct tax salt= is peelimed by boa. gentlemen opposite ; I hope dils e l=ippr: t ood interest ef real property lam some chases of wee. (lieu hear.) Do not let the house =euetits ontheings the IIIiSMS eft Mt . Do set be th em imagine that that par tite of the real property manseeed with the etildvatioa of Ind b ad at thL monent la • Mats ot depression m ter rible is has been schnwisaged by the hen meshes. for Manenster. Toe me hen eager th ey an to nide relief by the pelitlen whisk I'baw pined ea the bee today for the repeal of the malt-tan Tea me how eager a peeks of this weft'', immediatel interested in the of bulgy, ere for the repea l et the tn. Ton ad hoof moss who an not immediately intended, wn me net able to prove ed Z atei wo r uld obtain say greet advantage in their sae incise Mg under th is weight of unjust tiondsa ; eager they are to adept the list remedy that is eared le then I have a:premed in the mend mediation width I hen pissed upon the table of the beam, my einem opines as lhe subject of the malt tax . I thin k that when we nmeether that the landed interest d this country has a coosidesable portion of real property ethjest to this taxation whisk I have referred to in the first reedation, it is a great segravatica when they remistabes teed more than on-third of the roman ; reedied by the excise is contribated by reatric deem Geddes of their growth. Sir, I think the dielenniessennetted with this tax have been to frequently been the benne that I shall not trouble, with too muck de tag, Anatilmea with dreanneasess with which they ere fion_arrLhat there are dreamenacen connoted with the In relief in rupee to this tax which must be ir=od7oolettel by the hens before they can comprehend the feel s se the Sumer won this saline. Why, sir, this suffering tine mane bat remember that 20 peen ego they made an typed to the How of Cleemosee for the repeal of thislin. What wee the maws ? The sower was, that the minister could net spar. the roman. He could not sine the 3n mildew was then rind by ' the malt tan - The him, yielded the repressatalbas of thilinennemill. and nee peer, if I remember right, armed' saint tandem was taksa off him other articles Wby men Now, dr, I do not want to go e the taei whether that was wise or unwise in the if day, I ask you, was it ingenuous to silt in that way ? or are you surprised est sheik remember that with mortifiw din with leaned confidants la the bailee men of this eshatry ? What happened in the year 1836 1 The eighties. gentleman, the member for Tamworth, was then Wain of this cautery, perhaps the meat difficult and not the bast distinguished portion of his eminent career. In that year there was great agricultural distress, and the great body of the agriculturists of England were of opinion that the repeal of the malt tax =The give them relief. Then wss • what w alled • • ties, in in mien day s ' The sable iced who thee reprotented the eatmel Bedthelthens, nth Mho is still remembered by the Ihneen 'el that needy with raspiest for his kidded and sibilinnt essideet— (hear, hear)—bed pledged damsel( to Inn leeward a main be the repeal of this tax ; and cannoneer wed painful se meawealth of podtiwaea mould of the formation of the 'overt t the How wee the hoe. ma yrn? , The right hen meth he robented his pledge. right quads& met mare, surdas all lib • pews: to refute the statsmas that wore elated, - admialetered some seism* millidenti to the matey gentlemen. The right hen. igendinen asitltelre UM what you are about; pee Mr gg eelf pm malt tax, bat I will tell me totes des war have linen, a good comf or t a bl e • prepwty ten. WM Wee use an are» "raked %pea the amisaltaral haunt. (Hear, hear, an knitter) They fled like sheep. Some came down to the horse, rescinded all their promises to their ose ethane, "dreamt dreams sad saw videos." Well, what have yea got now ? You have get the melt-tax ; you have get the good comfortable property tax. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) With all those burden cm land which yea band so °votaries, and which the right boa. madness at his last eintonte agreed were so oppressive besides, are You ssaerrpprruuesed teat the tarmen of England, alter mutt as these, should be a little fll and an. manageable ? I am not surprised that meta in distress dwell Ay to the first harbour for refuge sad security; but w h en yea recollect how ohm this quashes has been armed out of kora, 'how frequently it has been brain famed with every chases of success, that cmos, to oomph» the note», war carried and rosined immeeffsesly afterwards, are you ara that the farmers shodel bogie to feel some distrust kt . e fedeet of public men ? (Load miss of " Hear, hear," keen CoL Sibtharp, amidst meek laughter.) Now, aft, that this is an injury to the farmer I do sot think aay one can he a moment seriously doubt; that it is a tax on the eon. earner is no answer to this complaint: Mr.Macallseti,the pelitiesl ecoseenht, and though a pelting esesemist a very amide than—(a laugh)—is, I thof ic e withentessepthen, of all esensaieal writers, the most pranks, thea asa ea qedeted with. it,. Menthe*, is anonigatmfa 'en of hidwerks the Moen d fixed duty width Mt ffensed aug ht es le greeted' to "he land on mneite 111 h is of their' being Slant lOW* than ter vier of the emaranlty ; thintertaini" ag the Menne! his find V or y, a t pats down the malt tax se Minn edible lee . the demand on the pert of the farmer is net so unreasoned' a Mao wand my. I do set dwell en the do resetie aaaniness whith this tax eons, they an haw* to all. of es, they are felt by meet of in. lad they are the hourly convened** of these men at every party. Having frequently expressed nay opinion oa this subject, as tar as regards past preposition, and the moult of loss and Annoyance to the farmer, I will, eves at the risk • of losing the favour which they have bestowed ea me, smog them not to peers for the reped of the malt tax. (" Oh, eb.") Aid I will give you ay reasons why. I advise then not to press for the repeal of the malt tax, beethee I am cominced that the of benefit which they will receive will be any angered with the rend incoaveniens which k . The particular reason why I nommen them ash to prom for the repeal of the malt tax is, that if thsy obtain at this moment the repeal of the melt tax, they will obtain what may . neve a fatal thank to memos of relief, sub u that which I have pro ad ether. which I hope we may be able to propose. (Rear, hoer.) The measure which I have mowed to-night will allow me to take Ave or six millions of talatiOa off the real property of this estuary. Its benefits will be felt Is every aid in every farmhouse in the coney ; its benefits wi I be felt in every town in the cothery. It is set • sectional advantage ; at is not a asearieet arrange ment ; it will benefit every farmer cue hundred times mire than the repeal of the malt tax, sad hewill feel, at the sues time, that great bodies of his countrymen, not mmeeted with agriculture, are equally benefited by mea sure founded ou justice, and die truth of which no one »a dispute. But, sir, we must not consul from ourselves that if se deity them men justice, U we meet this plain unan swerable cam, one-fourth of the smut of the whole pro perty being visited by this incubus of taxation,to the amount of ten or twelve millions, from which privileged pro perties are exempted—that if we will net meat those men in a spirit of justice, you will have an appeal to the repeal of the malt tax . ; you will have an append to the repeal of other tans; you will make au op : preyed and aggrieved population nu amuck spinet ail Mier. (Hear, hear.) Sw, I have been asked by the gentle me' of Ireland whether I intended that the resolution' which I have plain on the table should apply to their coun try. It is my intention that they should apply to their sountry. I can see so rune and no principle why the applicatios should not be made. If I am salad why I have not Included Inland in the terms of my present motion, I answer it a bemuse the de tails and the arguments applicable to that comary are eon anted with entirely distinct and different principles. To Mate the me of that unhappy country would require that ' I should sear Into other and very extensive statements of tZgsad fens ; and it is sty wish to rest the eve l have y stated in support of the resolution I have placed on the table es the simple strength of is own Justin, to be halt with ho by the candour sad wisdom of the house. Bat if the use will only grant me the committee which I seek to obtain, I will undertake to call far another measure of an analogous character that shall be applitable to Ireland, sad bean ea the same principles. (Hear, hear.) I cannot see what argument ma be urged *faint the title of Ireland to be relieved by some Anne Maim of a remedial character. I do not suggest title u • beim to helms: which will be effective to resuscitate her out of her preent deplorable condition ; but I offer It as as which !reified is entitled to call "pen the =rial i rest of this country to assist her is candor to be esniel we e provided her own lauded interest will make omen with that of this country. It would be a beneficial aressimat, as I conceive, for Ireland; sad she is well sodded to it. An hon. gentleman hoe found fault with me for not including Inland in my proposition, an wishes to know why I have not so extended it? 111, saner is that I do not wish to interfere with the pelaelple of the resolution I have framed; and that I do net madder the proper time to have arrived yet for a of the same dad with regard to that country. Haar, hear.) I was taunted the other night by an hon. member, who is himself one of the representatives for be hind, because I opposed the messures that had been brought bewail by her Majesty's government without proposing any other in their place. (Hear, hear.) Sir, allow a to so y , that that aitician was not very fair nor very happy. It is besides, rather stale. It is neither new nor true. (Cheers.) But, sir, I have yet to learn that it is any part of our duty, if we disapprove of the measure' brought forward by the go vernment, to submit to this house measures of our own in Itsaotthem. (Hear, Mu.) We are, sir, an oppositien— per duty accordingly is to oppose, not to propose. (Chem and laughter from all aides.) I can easily undefeated why hoe. gentlemen opposite do not approve of as opposition which challenges their acts sad does not replace them by its own. (Heir, hear.) But we are sensible et our own duties, and man to Wan to them. I will venture to tell Irish gentlemen that there Is one great principle upon which they must be distinctly agreed among themselves before they cat reasonably hope to see any measure carried that will be effectual for the purposes of reviving and protecting the industry and the property of Ireland. They must lay aside their fatal feuds—(cheers)—and co-operate n• the benefit of their common country, with a total abandonmeat of mere wd.or private objects. (Cheers.) My Roble and lamented had he been spared to as to resume hie seat here this year, was prepared with a bill which would have effected kr the Leith people the suns beneficial objects which I em desirous tosses» es behalf of the fanners and the agricultural community of Inland. It would have done even mare, had he been permitted to terry out to their fall scope the views which he entertained of the nuns that might be applied to the development and encouragement of their re sources and their labour. But it will be noshes to embark is say attempt thus to assist Ireland, unless Irish members will abandon their political hostilities, and within their Meat In the land with that of the ems epodes Opeciperty kinked. No error ere be gem fatal to titm or mere disenons to their own future keens" and the Mien of bid, than that the k _ prepeidarke ef the two Manes should net this emeldin to mere theft jest *Ma. (Hear, hear.) I have now eakatened to W he lm the hew briefly and fairly I trust. end temperately I betheve—(hear, heart—the views sad simpaises of those she oloaplain of the grievances, the sWieat al whisk I have endeavoured to embody in the aueeifb. cm your table. Then chaplains and these plevesess are ea 'forth in behalf 'of a portion of that Bunter en lad inflan community Is Ragland, Welch io irked, in th e popular language et the day, " the interne w =ear, bear)—• pees hod of the Hagfish' eanidered in reterense le their no sig.= meaniy or by their weight sad inflames, renikkg bum their raid position sad the possmaiona may still toast forth" most on order of our society. (Hoar, Mc) Si,, it would be disingennas in me U on this *Leedom I were to attempt to coned from the house the fast that the Laded laterest do nothomplain merely of the grievance" set forth on these resolution', bat furthermore, of a gross isjiuy which they deem that they have Nedra at the hands of this house. (Hesr, hear.) It is sot in, intention to enter sow into the consideration of the poky or innolley of these great meentres which you pond three years ago, which you passed, and which they deplore. (Hear, her.) Bat it is say duty to »present to you, that dull or indifferent ea you have sometimes affected to suppose them, they have not bees anokervent or anatiedfid of what has layman in this nanny at late years, and cf much that has been date, or of sank that has been said with regard to than is this hone. They have witnessed the rise se expansion in this country of sew properties, of new sources of influence, and new in terests • and th e y have witnessed all this without jealousy, because: the spirit of their own oonnexiou mike in the doo trine that national prosperity is %ended on that of all classes in the nation united . Cheers.) Cheers.) They have sot regarded with any hostile feeling the right and legitimate represent& don of these new interests and properties in this house. But they know that they have been regarded themselves with other feelkes, by representatives of three other in terns now sitting on the opposite heath's. (Cheers.) It is bat right that you should understand that it was not without emotion they have observed that the teem of your legislation (or years past has been to avast those new properties with mintage" and favour, and simultaneouly to deprive the landed interest of those which it had prevbusly possessed. (Hear.) They say that nueb has paned is parlament, not uncharted by them— that much has beea said in debates is either home, and been recorded to the world, from which it would appsar that they have besu treated and spoken of even by ministers of state, with contempt—(hear, hunt)—aye, sir, and even by a mks of one of those peat end exalted houses, of whom it has been said, that they lave the land and that the land still loves them. (Cheers.) They are not ignorant that they have ben held up to public opprobrium, and ridicule, and Vahr Ideed deemegegen—(hear).-aad leaders of rieties. They have issithetthtest tUt their benciur teihnney, Ithe their whim anaing. width in the ehl eye weesasidered the Inman ef geth mid the neegeleasn et knees, las bean elfgmatbed and swaged at as an inenbes en English ant improvement. (Hear. hoer.) Sir, they hare net that even that very empire which was au Neel by the *dour, and established by the blood lend the deludes of their own sweeten, be. Imes held top to public hatred end 'venation es a plea el oundwou and unerieldly machinery, of y dodged to peseson the rapacity and to feed the tummy of them territerW houses. (Chun ) I Now the fact is, that then things are very hard to digest. (IL laugh ) Whether theme &any of iadhgnadon be well grounded or haseinn, this at least is certain :—it was the opinion of a vary - greet man, and I recommend it to the se rous attention of her Majesty's goverment, that there is nothing more dangerous to tiso wan than that any ens ghat clam in it should eamesin itself to have been designedly treated by parliament with disrespect. (Hear, bear. •Itis a fast, that the pride and pi the Laded interest in this country have been deeply wounded by thebearing which has been manifested towards them ; and whether there be any adequate founda tion for this feeling of irritation or not, it is one which I should recommend no minister lightly to tamper with, or when ones aroused to treat with contempt. The truth is, that it hen been somewhat too long a habit with certain parties in this hones to mums that they might with impu nity observe a tone of indifference towards the landed pro prietary. It became a proverbial remark, even with Sir R. Walpole himself, that the country gentlemen were a race who might always be fleeced with impunity; and more nu de= demagogue have followed out this doctrine with addi tional acrimony. Some of the leaders on the opposite benches have sweated that if not • single acre of land were to remain ander cultivation in E ng land the country itself would net suffer la coutiquence. But, under any cummetenen, I do trust to the proverbial loyalty of the landed interest ; trust you to their 10 7tity, but do not abuse it. (Loud cheers ) aka which wet said of the owners and cultivators of the land three thousand years ego isms `of the noblest legacies of political Wein and wiedeni which has descended th us from antiquity--that the aerioulturel elan is the least given to sedition—is equally true et this day. (Rear , btu), I do net doubt that It is as Wie oi the English in their wising and among their valleys it it was of the old Greets in their islands and tbtar lend ante. (Hear, hear) The owners ef your soil, it may be just as well to remember ) owe the tenders of your linntieso sad bane now their bleed hasiewelf unjustly in their dedi cation of the law. It was tble bleed that resisted the payment of ship-money, and the eless to whist It belonged is entitled now to he not lightly regarded. (Cheers.) If I look to the objects which are profaned by theme on whom behalf the resolution on the table has been petard, I find them con trasted net disadvantageously with thess who would speak of them so disparagingly. Sir, the kind which is inscrib. d upon their rural banners at tide mement, although it be a very homely one, is one which, if I mistake not, ie yet des tined to appeal ancensfully to the hearts and feelings of their countrymen—" Live and let live." (Cheers.) They are for that union ef all interests which, as I before ob. served, is the foundation of all national prosperity. You—and I speak now to many leaders of that movement wheat I set opposite tome—have adopted very different views and a very difmwtrule of conduct. Whilst you have pro claimed that it woad be a matter of indifference if every OM la England WWII Ott of cultivation, you have also pro claimed in every coiner and market-plan in the kingdom that it would be your one absorbing object to ware by any means the monopoly of the commerce of the universe, and to become the workshop of the world. (Loud cheers f rom the opposition beeches.) Your systems, thee, are contrary. Whilst they invite • union of all dance for the benefit of all, , you would sacrifice all others for the benefit of one—(loud than)—to establish that in all its selLh and solitary mag nificence, you would be content to raise it upon the ruins of every other. I believe, for my own part, that the noncurrent testimony of all history confines the advice which every good and honest man would give yes, and which I would therefore most solemnly press upon your attention, vie , that if you would snore and perpetuate the institutions under which a emetry Yee *maned its greatness, you cannot hope permanently to effect your object by any wane so at tain u guaranteeing the stability of the territorial principle. I see no reason why you should form an exception to that which the page of hitter, has hitherto reeorded—that you, too, should not fade like the Tries dye and moulder like the Venetian palaces —{ bud cheers from the opposition butellos)—but, united with the landed interests, you will secure the beet foundatioia, and you will find eves in that interest a counsellor in year troubles, in your dangers an undaunted champion, and in you adversities a ready cna. tomer. (Loud cheers.) It is to waist in producing those results that lam about, sir, to place in your hands these reselutioste. (Hear, hear.) I wish to see the sgriculture, the emaseeree, arid the manufactures of Ragland not adversa ries, but comatee and , and if drab at all, or, in a iy ewes ofthe ward, rivals only In the ardour of their patriotism and in the activity of their public spirt.. (Loud cheers.) The hen. gentlemen gemtleded by moving th e following ressistisee lhsß the whets if Vahan Welke of the country kw astiosal put pate has ad" V set minute*, ca reel peoyerty, realm with sodas eseenty at the essiskes of bad, tad is a mom beadows to the agrisnitml ...tr ice/ the , and le weal. Wahl, satin Warta" sat min& Vat Mai* af nest . le Med la the bet tha thaw alealre efZ w it ti brie hen emit Is lease as seriesitsral mama which is exposed by mat aoaapa la the law to threat Illeapailtlsa with the untaxed prods..[ Maas sensitise ; sad that the ham pro. does beteg thus slettliabe the bona d bgak din pr bl d heentl7 en tessebsiotht pram is 4 limbs the amen far 'Ma oca m ast:Wen width aheisnely betoche e the conduce of =ate tad the made. a his adeary; sal with that this house will mobs itself isle a ematate if the whets hem to fate into Dam demise the ramie Oda griewassa of ebb* the omen sod oC =istsof nel hus empiels, s e busiges ot to Melba ama tilt apportistmeat of tl e - - - The motion having ism seesmded, Mr.:HUMB ;said he had &teas' with attention to the speech of the hoe. member who had just resumed his seat, and he could not bat express his utter astonishment at the remedies suggested by the hon. member, sad the extramdi. nary means by whittle he (Mr. Disraeli) proposed to relieve that distress which he depicted as existing amongst the sari. cultural interests. (Hear, hear.) He had paid particular attention to the hoc . gentleman's speech, in order to guess, if possible, by what means—by what practical means—that distren was to be removed; bit he bad listened in vain. The fact *was, the hon. gentleman's speech was not at all in accordance with the resolutions proposed. (Hear, hear.) It was stated that certain burdens hed pressed with undue severity upon the occupiers of land. They had, however, heard nothing whatever of the occupiers of land from the hoe. gentleman, for his °beer vatMns were principally directed to matters affecting the landlords. (Hear, hear.) With respect to local taxation, he (Mr. Hume) Whited to ask those on whose behalf the hon. gentleman had come forward that evening how the tenant farmers could be benefited by the addition of an other income tax ? How could they be benefited by 6,000,00 W. of new taxes ? The income tax at present was 7d. in the pound, but it would require 16d. in the pound to afford relief to the proprietors of land in this count y, without any Terefilloll whatever to the occupiers. (Hear.) With what justice could that be done ? He denied altogether the position of the hon. gentleman. It was just that the landed proprietors should pay that which had been from time immemorial paid by those who had been proprietors of the land originally. The hon. gentleman asked why should the poor's rates, police tax, county rates, &e., be levied upon the land ? Why, elm ly for this reason, that those who obtained the land ly had undertaken to perform as a consideration for it certain military and other services for the benefit of the country at large ; and why should not their representatives either continue now to do so or pay for them? (Haar, hear.) Therefore he denied altogether the position of the hon. menace for Buck inghamshire, that those local taxes which were applied for general purposes were all levied for the exclusive advantage of the particular locality, and that the public at large had nitlu3 . l whatever todo with them. If the land had been y obtained oa those coaditiees—if passion of it originally rest originally had subject to those burthens, why should they not be still endured by the proprietors ? (Cries of" Question, question.") He (Mr. Hume) would therefore tell the bon. member that every ono who was the owner of lands In this country obtained theta subject to those !earthen., and if they thought proper not to perform the services in person, they should pay for the performance of (Hear. bear.) They were bound to pay the local taxes, and e would be most unjust for their relW to saddle them uponths country at large. It was quite clear that land bed always been purchased subject to such burthseas .these. He would, for instance, appeal to any hon. gulag man who had purchased (land at any time in this eountly. Why, doubtless, the first matey be inquired about was the amount of county rates, end other similar taxes. He struck those or the vales put upon the land, and after deducting those expeasee, the balance was estimated as the marketable value. The ru che= lud,therefeee, no right to say that he should be arempted free the payment of suit rates, for, in fact, he bad WIT contributrA one shilling towards them. (Hear, hear, and cries of" Order at the bar.") The hon . gentleman who moved the rseclations had asked, with what justice could the lauded proprietors be called upon to pay such taxes. The answer was very simple. They were allied upon to pay them with precisely the same amount of justice with which any man should be called upon to pay his just and honest debts. He purchased his land subject to those rem —he knew he should pay them—he was aware he purchased the land subject to them, and he should therefore be hold responsible for them. The hoe. member fur Buck inghamshire called upon the house to relieve the proprietors of Lad from liability to the payment of several uslions, and to saddle them upon others in the shape of taxes. If that had been done nothing mild be so clear in his (Mr. Hume's) mind than ;that snob a COM, would be an act of the utmost injastios—of complete robbery. (Hear.) Why should the proprietors of land be relieved from the payment of those taxes which they had been already allowed for and which they had deducted from the estimated value of the lands they pruritus& It that was the case, and he challenged a contradiction of the facts he stated, what became of the argument of the hon. gentleman who had last addressed the house? It was all moonshine. (Laughter.) In feet, the speech of that hon. gentleman was like a call upon the public in consideration of the great distress of the landed interests. They were, how ever, bound in law and in equity to contribute their fair share towards the liquidation of local taxes. They had Rus chased their estates subject to such burthens, and it would be i most unfair now to exempt them from their papaw*. Th e me were all p r operly local taxes, and should be paid ex clusively by the local Interests. It would be gross mastic* to propose their imposition on the p-ople generally, and therefore he said that to propose to relieve the tenant lumen by such means was only to nuslead them. (Hear, hear.) If the whole twelve millions of local taxation were taken off, the landlord would still demand the same rent, and thus the tenant would be left in the same situation as before. Il• L could not believe that the tenant farmers would be so stolid sad stupid as to support the present motion ; and when he looked to what some of them had said within the last Lerty eight boars, he was confirmed in that opinion. One of them. bed said, that sales there was a groat reduction of taxation the tenant roomer need expect no r e ti.l But what was the proposition of the hos. member fee Bucks ? It was simply to add six m'llieus to the present enormous taxation of the country. We paid sixty millions, sad the hon. member would make us pay sixty-six as • mods of relieving the con dition of the farmers. (Hear hear.) Where was it to come from ? It could only be relied by another income tax, and the whole would go into the pockets of the landlords. Ho saw that at all the recant farmers' meetings the general cry was fur reduction of taxation, and that was kis cry also. He wanted to bring down fifty-nine to forty-nine, to take off ten million', which at the present moment were premiss down all the springs of the :wheal industry. He must complain of the manner in which the hon. member for Bucks had thought proper to address the representatives of the manufacturing interests. The hon. member had talked as if Manchester and Liverpool were alone interested in the national establishments and should alone boar all the burden. Among ethic things, he bad been surprised to hear the hon. member say that Man chester and Liverpool should bear all the expense of the packets, because they were the places principally benefited. He would ask the hon. member what made the Lnd of Eng land five times as valuable as the land of Poland ? The land was not better ; what, then, was it that enabled it to have such rents as were now paid, and which enabled the proprietors of the tail to live in such magnificent style ? (Hear, hear.) It was the enhanced value given to its pro ducts by the consumption of Liverpool, and Manchester, and Birmingham; the aid given to it, in fact, by the manu factures of the country. (Hear, hear.) He could tell them that, but for manufac ture., the land would be worth very little. At one of the meetings to which he had alluded it was stated that land which in )792 was worth only 7001. a year, now let fin 4,0001., snit yet the hon. member for Bucks contended that the mann teetering interest had been of so little service to the land as to make it just that it should bear all the burdens of the country. The motion of the hon, member was neither nem» nor lees than an appeal ad misericordiani. " Clive us six millions," says the hoe. member, but he would not get any in the way he proposed. He (Mr. Hume) believed that the time was coming when justice would at last be done. The landed interest had long batlike imposition of toms in their hauls, and they had nothiltffirected tte expenditure: Neither ha d they forgotten to eppdpriate a fall abate of the profit and patronage to themselves and their families. But they had not paid the taxes. There was hardly an impost wM& did not come from the people at large. On these grounds he looked upon the melee* of the bon. member for Backs as an entire failure. (Hear, hear.) The hon. mem ber would not advise the farmer. to look tor the repeal of the malt tax. He aid, "It will not relieve you at all. 1 can do meek better for you by laying upon you an additional tax of 74. in the pound, the produce of which is to go into the pockets of the landlords." Now, although the hon. member did not think fit to propose a repel of the melt tax, he (Mr. Hume) would assist the tenant farmers by proposing its repeal, and he would new state to the house what it was be meant to propose. He had constantly maintained that the malt and hop duties were two of the went taxes that could be imposed. Twenty years before, when a proposition was brought forward for the repeal of the malt tax, he had voted in the majority, and it would have been repealed had not the country gentleman come down on the following even ing and romoded his own vote. Wien his hoe. friend the member for the West Riding had proposed a rodeo ion of ten millions in the expenditure, he (Mr. Hum.) had sup ported him, and he would now state what taxes he would remit with the produce. He would now remind the house that in 1821 he proposed a reduction of four millions and a half in the taxation ; and every tax that he then proposed to strike off had been remitted since. He had I rorosed to strike off the talt-tax 1,5000001., and the hater tax. Both had since been remitted. The soap-tax he had also proposed to strike off, and would have succeeded had not Lord Mont esgle been in office. (A 13 , 310.) One half of the tax was taken off, and the remainder promised in the following year ; but, like many other promises, it was broken. However, 3,800,0001. of his proposttion was struck off, and anyone who lived to see the next ten years; would see the same result fol low his hon. Mend's porosities. Now for the malt tax. (Hear.) Let it not be supposed thinks proposed to take it off all in one day. (Hear, beer.) Radial reformer as he was, he must work cautiously until he had got all the tenant farmers an his side. (A laugh.) He did not think it would be long until he had them. Mr. Bennett, at one of the farmers' meetings, had said, "A few hours will test those gentlemen who call themselves the larme-s' friends. Let us mark who among them will rapport Mr. HUMS'S proposi tion. Those who do not need never look this way agoin. A general election will settle an" Indeed. so heavy was the taxation, so useless the expenditure, that if the county members only behaved well he bad every hope of reduction. He was not afraid of the borough members, bad as the constitaenciss were—and they were very bad—(hoar, hear) —only the small ones. (A laugh.) All they wanted wax to have the constituencies made larger. (Hear, hear.) Hon. gentlemen apposite might gather from the speeches made at their own meetings within the lest 48 hours what would be their fate at the next election if they were not pre pared to support a general reduction of expenditure and of taxation. (Hear.) He proposed to take off ten =Wiens from the expenditure of the country, and this seas the way he would deal with It. He would repeal the malt tax, amounting to 5,225,0001., and the hop duties, which amounted to 392,0001. He had long felt it to be his duty to endeavour to make the food of the people cheap by making it free of taxes. That object being achieved, he would do Lis beet to make their beer cheap by taking off the malt end hop duties He had favour of those taxes except that they were for the benefit of the agricultural population. But bespoke for the agriculural population when he demanded die repeal of these taxes, which theylkuew pressed heavily upon them, fettering their industry and crippling their energies, and deriving the labourer of a beverage which wee neceseary to the mainten ance of his strength. He was informed, on good authority, that, the malt-tax repealed, good beer could be had for Id. a pot. ("Ph," and a laugh.) Yes 'as good beer as was now charged 3d. could then be suppli ed for ld. (Hear, hear.) This would increase the sale of barley, and so benefit the tenant farmer and the labourer at the same time. Ho did not however, propose this change for the bene fi t of the agricultural labourer alone, but for that of all the working men in the country; and the poorer the man, and the lower the wage', the more necessary it was that he should have at his command a wholesome nourishing drink instead of resorting to ardent spirit*. (Hear, hear.) The text taxes he would remove were those on light—the window-tax, and the tax on soap ; and here he was sure he should have the support of all those honourable members who were the advocates of sanitary improvements. (Hear.) The window tax produced 1,663,0001.; soap, 990,000/. ; bricks (which the agricultural party joined with malt), 445,0001.; and paper, 745,0001. After reducing the expenditure to the standard of 1835 the taxes he would ro deo. were—malt, 5,225,071/. ; hops, 392,3811.; window tax, 1,663,3201.; soap, 990 5121.; bricks, 455,1451 .; paper, 746,7951. This would give a total of 9,472,9241., so that he should leave a margin of half a million for the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He looked upon the malt-tax as one of the most important of these taxes, not only in the relief its removal would afford, but in the injuri ous effects of its operation. He would state what the effects of the malt-tax bad b' en, and what he further intend dby repealing that tax. One groat object he had in view was to abolish the excise department aftogether, which cost the country 929,0001. a-year, and bad formerly cost a million— s reduction which they gad to thank Mr. Wood, the chief of that department, for effecting. This department, the whole business of which, with the exception of that which related to spirits, might long since have been left to the same board that desk with the customs and stamps, be would abolish altogether. A million a-year nearly would be saved by this arrangement. (Hear, beer.) 1111) advantages which would result from the removal of the excise restrictions on soap and paper would not be leas then 15 per cent. Tomorrow he should have to present a peti tion from certain paper makers in which they showed that the duty imposed on the manufacture of paper was 66 per cent. on one description of paper, and 33 per cent. on another ; and if the excise were removed this country would be able to supply the world wiehatationery. (" Hear, , and laughter.) He could show that the effect of the tax on malt was to demoralise the people, and induce them to re sort to spiritless a beverage instead Of:imer. In 1826, when he sebrafitted to the house the propriety of reducing the melt-tax, he; placed a paper on the table showing the effect of the duty in the oversee consumptkka in various periods of ten years. In the ten years ending 1724, the duty being's. 81d. a bushel, the avenge consunaptlon.sno2s,76l,77s bushels. In the next year, the duty was nisei to 2e. 4d., and from 4795 to 1804, the population having 4rcoarse materially in crewed, and the prosperity of the moony having increased also, the average consumption was 25,514,741 bushels. In the ten years from 1805 to 174, 0 1sieriod when the con sumption of all other articles in e- , malt fell to an av rage of 23,819,475 bushel', the duty eying been raised to 4s. 4d. a bushel. Duties the next ten year. there were three different duties, 2a. 44., 3a. ed., and 2s. 6d., and with the filet reduction the consumption recovered to 25,816,000 bushels, being 300,000 less than the average of the ten years end ing 1794. In the ten years ending 1834, die duty being 2e. 7d., the consumption was 29000,000, audio the following ten yeses it rose to 83 , 000,000 . But in It4o an addition cf 6 per cent. was made to the duty, and the consum p tion immediately fed off ; and during the last four years, 1645, '6, '7, and 'B, it was I only 32,000,000, being years, while the population had increased 79 to 80 per cent. I in the same time. Previous to the imposition of the duty, an increase of only 30 per ctn.. in Gel the proportionate consumption of malt was still greater. He I' would show how additional duties had worked in Ireland, in reference to the consumption of malt. During the five years commencing 1795, the duty being le. 4d., the average consumption was 4.410,410 bushels; in the five years from 1816 to 1819, the duty being 2s. 1 0d., the average consumption fell to 1,891,152 bushels ; and from 1931 I to 1835, the whole amount which paid duty was 1,6.59,539. The consumption of spirits had named as that of malt r had decreased. In Scotland the results were the same. Before he sat down, he begged to express his satisfaction at . finding that from first to last of his speech, the hon. member (or Buckinghamshire had not proposed protection. (Hear, r hear.) He had proposed reciprocity, and the latter part of his speech seemed very much directed towards the rc-enact meat of monopoly ; but he had not mentioned the word "protection." He (Mr:Hume) therefore took it for granted that the house bad had something like an easuranee from the boo. member that he did not want proteetion. (Hear.) But what, then, became of all the meetings of the farmers ? because they were looking for a restoration of protection, I and for &monopoly. (Hear, hear.) Now, be (Mr. Hume) was as anxious as may man to obtain reciprocity, but he would not injure himself beesuse another might , refuse to do as he did. Let other countries do as they pleased, and drink all or anything they liked at an ex:,enss of 20 and 30 per mt. higher than it was drunk in Eng -1 land, what did it matter to him? He would reduce the f