The Express. — London, England, 1849-07-13 00:00:00

BAILIVAYS. Tole DAT, Two o'CLoTz. Tree 'bare market is fir.n to-day, end prices in some instances have improves]. Eastetn Counties was last done at 0:, being an advance sf 7. 6d. over the highest price of yestcrilay. London and South Westerns, Berwick', end York and North Midlands, are also batter. Most other lines are firm at the quwations of yesterday. The being the day previous to the s ettlement oft he account, the jobbers are busy with preparations for that event. Very BO" business his taken place in French sharer. Paris and Roaen arc not quite so good. owing gram ages to-day Kt Odra! Daman Illetterass. I Yesterday. I to 1 o'clock. :i - il. 6um l'nforeass . MabgL,Net..bar..ll6. 36 6 Sorts k 1144 ts Mt. Olt. Net. perpetual I p. 11.1 111 blimanwlma sad Ile JusetioNeallidaly pa* or with a guarantee . DIL witliout a gust antet 13 Ban., IA 01v., awl Muur talkf 10 em., sad MA , earls duly ps3.l. 03 IC wartest Bo:oa, and IS Bristol 3nd User 17 Du. TO trio •• • .. 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II dis. 4 MIL r $1 4 4 Air 10_ IL as. . i l 7 II LIVERPOOL, hay 12. Wrotit-T.sertimos.—la onseettneson of to-day being OD grand moan at Aintree, Uwe was a my poor asesdanco ia the sorbet. Mid inisarraestly very tilde bunions me disa Prism TO. Malta InibOlnalitsratioa.—salts . Caledonian (pref. Stion), But loneritire WO. 4-ebroo). 74-lAnorbire solTottlin raw), Wa. Us& asd lei—Ditto (I ad L. and E.), 1114.—Vitlo WO Sam W. IL U.), North Rearm (sew I ), (4 done), e. 114 Id.— Oniestry asd Moo, et-IM% limmaselik god Sewn* (0.1 4 . 4 per oat. SIMI), 4 7114. MANCHESTER, July 12. STOCI-EXCHANOI.—Ther• was no Amp la the "mast Uher se to amount of hwinero or prime sizes yesterday. There were strong buyers however, fur neat amount. BIRMINGHAM, July 12. Stoat-Iscrnawas —Theo was very little bolas's dons in au slisre.coarket to-day. Mork Beiti.4l Tlurds were dare at 31, Fintwatury sad Birmingham A s Si B's 41 ; and ante Unkwis. Sas. fi dis. LEEDS, July 12. RTOCIL Escmanor —There has been *nether flat market Sis medal. New Lent Laneastilre were !odd at 17t • Leeds and think quarters at 24. k. preen., and Leeds and Think Esassione, (NM) at ie. die. BRISTOL, .hdy 12. STOCIL-120111AN01.—The market was firmer, asa prices bane sihnesed. Wr darn quarters were am Si. 51 sad 6 7.16 YORK, July 12. Eiroca-Ezmumos,- 84 .• Omit Northers. 10% ; Nwth cisarters. Yolk tiaweemie, and Berwick (14eweretle Ez. torke), lii; G ILL Pm, $1 19e. alAr!Leeltie!el, 7 UlDSB.—LsiDEtatt.i , JULY 13.—Matket hides, 661 b. Fl l tost4llA., lid. —; ditto, 841 b. tO lirt. to lid .; ditto, 7 AD. t o SOUL, 24. to 81 d.; ditto, 84 b. to 881 b., 114. to id.; ditto, 681 b. to sterling), at t' atonal N►, 84. to • hors , . bide•. %Ad.; oaf skim light . Vs. bd. to vial itself, oft tl as. OIL; 14.--Barsomosev. July It—Missy skins, Dow% —to crown o' Looks,to. 44.0 fa. 4d.; Sa:alings, 31. Bosse takini . • • IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TUURSDAY. Javy 12. The Earl of SturraestlZT (Depaty Speaker) took his ant at 6 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. SECOND READlNG.—Mancheeter, Sheffield, and Lin- Washita Railway (consolidation and amendment , of Acta), Dill. THIRD READING.—Lmidon an 4 Bliekwsll Railway (aseadraent and extension of tints), Bill. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETI noNs PRESENTED. Aunt/ OP RAILWAY ACCONNTS 1311.x.—8y Lord MONT EAGLE (root certain parties (dtsignation not beard), in favour of this bill. DUNGANNON UNION.—By Lord DIONTEAOLE, front the board of guardians of ths Dangarvon Uoi,o, signed by Lord Stuart De Melee, as chairman, praying for the appoint. seat of resides% sonata,. GENERAL AND QUARTER SESSIONS PRO CEDURE HILL. Oa the motion of Lir l CANIYEELL, the General and Qoarter Session , Courts Prooedurs Bill was read a second cites. DRAINAGE OF LANDS BILL. Oa the motion of the Earl of CARLISLE this bill was read a third time and pun d. CRIMINAL LAW. Lord BROUGHAM laid on the table a bill for the conso lidation of the criminal la v. The criminal law commission had suggested that one portion of the digest should first be prinept/owned in a meature, and if the learned judges ap proved of it. parliament would be enabled tog oon with the rest in pertect safety. Tne present measure related to ellemeas against the person. BANKRUPTCY LAW. Lord BROUGHAM gave notice that tomorrow night he would state what his opinions and prospects W.T. with re. spent to the Bankruptcy Law Con.elidation Bill. It was clearly not the House of Lords which stopped the course of this improvement. AFFAIRS OF ROME. Ia reply to a question from the Marquis of Lattssowss, Lord BROUGHAM said he would give the noble mar quis a copy of his resolution on the Deject of the French invasion of Rome to-morrow (this doy) ; and if the noble marquis thought it embraced too large a subject, he would postpone it from Monday for a day or two longer. PORTPATRICK AND DONAGHADEE. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved that attic the large sums of money tx . pendad at the national mosses os the harbours of Portpatrick and Dinegkade,, amounting to upwards of £lOO,OOO, and the grants last year of £lO,OOB l by her Majesty's present government, to enlarge and (hedge highly iae the buias for the reception of large ottani s fr vends, it is zpedient to remove the acketom the station, and give up the desirable communication between the south meat of Scotland and the north of I-elsn 1. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE oppored the motion en the ground that the proposed . change would save expert., and a better mode of communication would be established. After a few words from Lord De Roe. The Earl of GALLOWAY supported the motion. He thought there should be a committee of inquiry into the subject, Their lordships then divided, when the numbers were : Contents l e e Non-coattnts 3l Ntjority against the motion SITES FOR SCHOOLS BILL. - - - - - --- The hones then went into committee a this bUL Lord REDESDALE proposed a clause to enable land owners to gnat land, not exceeding the acres, ter toe pur poses of sound schools. The Marquis of L &NSDOWNE would not oppose the them. After a short conversation, the clause was agreed to. Zvi POWIS then moved the following clause, of which he bad gives notice Ow the dottiest*/ sad obtaining of aulm'ile sites for schools earn - gin ha it further enacted, that when any common land not entieedinig me acre, woel of ar y manor, shall have been given, granled, _oentstryed, or enfranchleed by the lord of th e manor as a site fee edleek mount to the said drat recited act, sad such land or aZaten anent shall afterwards be exchanged (or other land, par te*, purr of exchange contained in the same act, neither the Ind m originally given, granted, coavered, or enfranchised by M lad end afterwards given in exchange, nor the land leneieed is kahall revert to or become a portimi of the common =the mid moat, or be subject to any common right or claim co title whillmoreg et the lord or the commoners, but shall be wh Aly diseharpd therefrom; anything in the laid recited acts contained to Me comiary notwiatanding. After a short discussion the clause was agreed to, and the bill passed through committee. AUDIT OF RAILWAY ACCOUNTS. • Lord IRINTB &OLE, in presenting • p tition in favour of the Audit of liseleray Accounts Bill, said it had been stated publicly with rstereme to this bill that • conspiracy bad been entered Mtn lettere' n Memel( and the government to destroy the 'slue of /few ay property in order that the g evernmeut might hereafter purchase the lines. If ever there were • bill which was calculated to add to the value of such property it was that which be bud introduced; and if those who were now opposed to it could show that it was calculated to preju dim their late rests, they should have corns before the cow• mitt** at witnesses, instead of misrepresenting the measure and the views of those by whom it was supported. He treated that the public would be guided, not by m:sreprse mutations of the bill, but by • fair consideration of its clauses. (Hear, hear.) Their lordships adjourned at a quarter to 7 o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.-THURSDAT, JULY 12. The /Imam' took the chair at 12 o'clock. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. Scorca Manaraoss BILL..—BY Mr. BAILLIE, from a place in Inverness-shire, against this bill. PIOTICTION TO AORICULTURIL—By Mr. W. MILES, from Sontertetshire, in favour of protection to agriculture. BISR-110011U.—By MT. MILES, from sewral places in Sontersetabire, against granting licenses tv beer-houses. 5 qdu It II :1 "7 $s s i e i s 5 5 4 111•• IN q 46 4 446 2 4 i t (114. all its details. (Hear, hear.) In making thump few observa tions, he had no wish to t►row ivy impediment in tte way of the right hon. gentleman. On the contrary, he heartily wishadhiin sums; in the attainment of the very diffizult LIGHT-HOU SE D ITE S.—MARINEPILOTAHE.—COM MERCIAL . The bow* bevies gone into committee on the Merchm. Seamen and Pilots Bill, Mr. LABOUCHERII said he proposed, in redemption of an engagement made by him in the early pert of this seldom, to call the attention of the committee to various subjects eon netted with the mercantile marine of this country. In proposing to the committee measures for the improvement of our merchant service, and for the relief of our cemmercial marine, he could not, consistently with the arguments he had used in support of the repeal of the navigation laws, put forward these measures as any sort of compensa tion for *juries inflict. d on the merchant service by such repeal. Had be considered that the merchant ser vice would be injured by that alteration, nothing would have induced to make or to support the proposition—(hear, ltear)—but his opinions were wholly the other way, ands no Injury having been occasioned by the repeal of the vga tion laws, but the enntrery, he had no compensation to prn- poss. (Hear, hear.) At the same time there was no doubt that the attention of the merchant service would now be di rected with more clearance of perception to the grievances which they had felt and complained of, more or Int, in the days of what they deemed protection; and this was an addi time mum why the parliament should lose no time in coseleediale Am grievances. He did not propose, on the rem& easseles, to make a complete review of all the gate. liens eilieling oar merchant service. There were, however, several paints of vast importance to which Inked specially at plied hie alleation, with &view to the proposition, in tenting, of what r trotted would be accepted as measures of Immo ', dine gelid to the merchant service, and, in a third latrines, glellnment of a subject, on which, though at ouch an aninsene period of the session he could not hope to peepers any measure which could be sufficient`y con- Mend to pass into law this year, a penitent might hid before the house in the shape of a bill, which eider the leisure of the recess might rev ire the MOM eonsideration of all parties more immediately leiggested and of the public at large. The first question to wad* be would solicit the attention of the calamine*, IMO a• maim of the light dues, a burden, in their p e wter t Amp, MS, gemeantile marine of this country, wh'c% had big les Ile mitdeat of just complaint, as well by mesa lit re by reason of its unequal telballem. and kg ender ewes connected with Ihe velem urn which it was feuded. (H ca se, hear ) In gangenninedes the sea-lights were maintainei at the public =Bl:eat et the public treason—(hear. hear)—but in 1 4doisi a different system bad prevailed Here the fights were maintained by toll, levied upon shipping, under the management, not as elsewhere, of a general b aid, re 'Foible to the government and to the !runny, but of indent corporation', which. in England, Scathe I, and Ire land nereised separate jurisdictions, under the general con trol of a most impelled and inconvenient kind of pevy council. He had en former mediae. expressed the opinion that there was very much in the system w- ieh r q lea amendment; that though it might be 1111001.0.141 to deal with the question es if it were a mere tab's& rasa, and not an existing institution, yet that it was the duty of the ga Irtillilellt and of parliament, at the earliest possible moment, to apply themselves to improve the system, and to render it more in harmony with the wants of the per . oi and with the 'Avowed pri eiples of administration now acknowledged in this country. (Hear, hear.) He had embodi d these views ha a bill which last %mien he laid Were the house. The prinriple of that measure was to place the management of the lights more efficaciously under governtend control, and to commute the present payment of a tell by each par ticular verse' for a tanners duty upon our shipping at large. To this priniple he still arlh•red, and hod he c whined it desinble, at this period of the sr saint, to lay on the table of the house a bill to regulate the general management of light dues, it would he founded noon that pried I improved as to details by rev eel emendates% which had sine. presented themselves to hi• mind ; but as he felt that it would Ise Im possible for the house to legislate satilfseVaily neon as her and oomplieared a -ulsj et in the brief spec • which now re. maned sf the vs-ion, he abstained hem brineine forward the bill this veer. (Hen.) Without going into minute detail, he wriuti state generally that the great ppriu t i of the burden now imposed upon the merchant semi se of this coun try by tolls aeon from a debt contract d ruse v p., Ts aim b y the 'Dishy House, in buying up certain Oyes light. (the money for which was rather more than a million Vie urgent soli itation of the !enchant set aviieved by the tolls which the private those li Jilts had exacted, the Trinity - oa themselves the future nesipt ------------- --------------------- and intent of the tolls. The Trinity House of the crimps. A bill had , however , been brought in lest had from that time yet only paid interest upon the money year, by which some restrictions a ere placed epee these teiesd for the purchase of the se tolls, but bad, from time to crimes, be rendering it necessary for them to procure licenses • , by instalments farmed the eaeitge debt, so that, at the from the Board of Trade. He was not prepared to say that t o egem " • • runt, lb. Trinity House only owed rather mere consielerable prod had not be . n effected by tbis reguletion ; than 600,0001. on this account. (Hear, hear.) There was bet still it fell very far short of the degree of protection en a gement still subsisting with the Bank of Ragland, neecuary for the tailor ; and he felt bound to declare that by which the Trinity Ileum was bound to pay oft I s re- be leteslature was called upon also to have this businets mainder debt at the rate of 60,00G1. per annum. It wa ub- transacted In • different woy to what it now was. There vious that any material redeciun of the eght tolls now wes 'nether subject on which he must say a few words, hued on the seepplog of thi, country could only be effected nattily, on the sanitery condition of the sailor when byuns: r eading the repayment of 'hie debt over a greeter on board his ship. No one who hail read the report • of years—(bear, bear)—red in hie 'vireos the mer- which had b. en printed on this subject, but would admit the shame service was fully entileed to relief ghee by such 1111 just and general dissatisfaction which existed on this score, suaarement. The premee.t lama receipts from the tolls for and also the ne well. fur loin ' • something to render the lighting the English create—there were not the same tom- sailor less liable to imbibe the seeds of disease than Sainte in relation te. the Snatch and Irish lights—the total he now was. At present there was no d. pertinent Woes receipts or. the English lighthouses was in 1847 of the government responsible for the coaditcn of 318,0001. in mend numbers, being from coasters 145.000 e, the mercantile marine. The Admiralty and the Board of and from over-sea tea :era 173,000'. The Trinity House Tribe bad a sort of divided authority in the matter, but proposed to reduce this burden of 318,0001. by no lees a sum neither of those boards possessed a supremacy. Ile there than 100,0001., or ate-third ef the amount. (Hear, hear.) tore proposed tit give the Board of Trade increased authority, When he had come to consider the eemparative meaner in and as a matter of course increased responsibility, in all which the rearm of light does fell upon the different matters relating to the mercheet seaman. He pro posed to climes of our commercial navy, he had found that the add a department to that board to be called the Mercantile pressure weighed far more heavily upon the coasting than Marine, which should not be constituted a meliorate upon the over-ilea trad -is. (Hear, ear.) The present beard, but only a branch department of the Board of system was that every ship el ould pay for • light as she used Trade. He proposed that there should be two persons it, an arrangement which, at first glance, seemed fair and attached to thot board who had been captains of merchant equal enough, more especially if the receipts were applied vessels, as it was but fair that merchant-seamen should loth I wholly and exclusively to the maintenance of the lights ; but fur advice and protection to men of their own clan. He 1 who n it was considered that a ' , orlon of the revenue went to proposed that there should be issued by this department ' particular charities, the burden could s arcely be said to fall certificates of quelifieation divided into three classes, accord with only a fair end equal pressure upon the coasting treas. log to the size and tonnage of the ships. At pees int cert:ll - hear.) There was another important consideration cotes of qualification were 'fleeted after a voluntary which had not been omitted in coming to a judgment on this examination had been undergone by those seamen who part of the subject : the yoke of the cargo constituted car- applied for them, and whilst he admitted this had been pro- I tend, not lees an element in fairly estimating the due ductive ot much good, he was briund to soy that at the out which should he paid than the tonnage of a slip ports a very lax system of granting certificates pr veiled. (Hear, her.) Now the cerres of vessels engaged He mast also °heave that it W4ll not his intention to make in the foreign trade were, generally speaking, far more this certificate system retrospective. That would be unjust to valuable than the cargoes of colliers: or other coasting vesiele, the present race of masters and mates. All he bottle require (Hear, hear.) All throe considerations had induced him to on their part, therefore, Was, that they present, d them believe that, having this sum to apply 09 the relief of our selves to the Bard of Trade and furnished pruo'e of their merchant Levy, it was not just to give the larger share of the having commanded or officered • ship previous to the peeling relief to our coasting trade. (Hear, bear.) Aecerdingly, of the set, and that they should be at once entitled to a on of the 100,0001. in question the government proposed to ap- tificate to that effect, which would qualify them to r ntinue pie 70,0001. in reduction of the dues now paid by roues, in their present situations. But if a master or mate hold being a reduction of nearly 50 per cent. of their present bur lug • certithate of that class should n.ise.rluet himself, or den—(hear, hear)— the relief, moreover, being immediate, show himself so be unfit to cowinue in his po.ition, he should for it was proposed that the change should come into opera- then be deprived of his certificate, as well of command as of tion en the Ist of October. (Hear, hear.) There was far. qualification. Such • regulation was indepecsable for the they one particular class of Hebb in relation to which special safety of life and property on board merchant ships. He relief would be effected for this service; upcn particular propoed, also, that in ours of gross miseondues portions of the coast there were lights for which double tolls oa the part of the captain and OffiC'TO at Sea were now paid ; that was to say, a chip not only paid the or elsewhere, of a vessel they should bee 'facto he duty on peering these lights, but bad also to pay the due deemed te beets committed a misdemeanour, and that they upon repassing it on her return to port. ;Hear, hear.) It should be liable to be tried for such offence before the 'A wes proposed in all these eases to ah dish the double toll alto- Mauls of their country. He proposed to substitute for the gether, leaving ships to pay the single reduced duty only on present agents and crimps a set of men who should b e termed passing them on their voyage, and not on their return shipping office re, and who should be statiored at all the pores to port—(hear, hear); this was a relict which would of the United Kingdom. He was not without a precedent alike affect over-sea traders and c Jesters. The amount for this proposal, nami ly, the port of Q clue, where the of reduction which over-sea traders would benefit by Canadian legislature had appointed such en efficer, wh had ose would be in round numbers 27,0001 . per annum. or about six- agency had been attended with the happiest results, and ' teen per cent. of their present burde.i. The prop sea rendered Quebec, from being the pest of shipowners and cap reduction, Le would add, could be carried into operation tains, ens of the best regulated ports for seamen in without an set of _parliament, it being competent in the the world. (Hear.) The shipping o ffi cers he proposed to Trinity House to effect the change with the consent of the establish in the various ports of the United Kingdom we tile Privy Council. (Hesse hear.) The system of pilot- be the instruments whereby the seaman's condeCon would age in England was under the control of three jun dic- be improved, and be their means also he hoped to be able to bone ; the Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports had the restore that discipline amongst the merchant ships whet was control of the pilotage of the Cinque Ports ; some of so much wanted lie proposed that when a seaman was the greatest of our sea-ports were under the con- bired tat ot tbese officers snould b 3 present to ermine and trot of local and special jurisdictions, and all the approve orbs agreement ; and to explain it to the sailor in rest of the kingdom, comprising the north Fore. the presence of his captain or some of the officers. The land, and including a great portion of the slipping shipping agent would state to the seaman the length and wining to Landon, was under the jurisdiction of the Thee, nature of the voyage be was about to embark on—tuel offer House. In his communications with that corporation upon the scale of provisions—end regulate the atieulations as to the subject of lights, he had felt it to be his duty to call their the fish[ and other matters of internal discipline on board attention also to the subject of pilotage, end upon this gee s . the p. Tee latter stipulation would be a velure Mon, too, he had found them quite ready to meet the pit toy act between the captain and the seaman, and demamds of the shipping interest and the views of the in well conducted ships this system had been found t. (Hear, beer) Considerable improvements, to work well. The Board of Trade would, therefore rum- C v :na lliM en therefore in a position to say, would also be intro- late the teeters of flues and other punishments, and when dead into this branch of the service. (Hesr.) What could nice the bailor had voluntarily given his assent to them the be a more marked anomaly than this, which hap- agreement should be held binding. pened now every day : • vessel ping from Liverpool Mr. GLADSTONE—Is the bargain as to diet, which the to Dublin, and stopping there, was not obliged to take sailor makes between himself and the captain, to be volun • pilot on board on gating into Dublin harbour ; but a yes tart' or a fixed one ? set going from Liverpool to Dublin, end thence to Brest or any Mr. LABOUCHERB—The dietary would be a fixed one other foreign port, was compelled to take a pilot on board, in all cases and compulsory on the captain, es under the pre though her master or mate might be thoroughly competent sent system it was erten found that the poor sailors were half to pilot her. (Hear, hear.) He was most happy to inform starved. The dietary would be explained to the see the committee, that the Trinity Corporation had expressed man by the shipping officer when his agreement was signed their readiness to allow any over sea trading vessel, brine A. I , g. hook, teamed according to a model which would on board • master or mate, of whose fitness to pilot be furnished by the Board of Trade, would be required to be the vessel they were satisfied, to dispense with • Trinity rigidly kept by the captain of every merchant vessel, where pilot. (Hem, hear.) To effect this object it would by a check would be maintained over him, and the state of be souse ary to pass a bill throueh parliament—a bill discipline of his crew would be clearly observable, anti there of a permissive, and not of a compulsory nature, ensblieg by a protection to the seaman against brutality or ill treat the Trinity House or any, other pilotage juriedic:ien, aunt provided. Ile was so much impressed with the absolute to dispense, in such cases, with the services of a pilot on beard over-sea tra 'ers. There was anotherof necessity of strengthening the discipline of the merchant euellien is, rain., that he proposed to give to captains having first the highest importance and of the greatest difficulty, to , ai rs certificates, and commencing alevessels of • certain amount of tonnage, the power, for specific offences, of a which, though he did not propose to ask the judgment of the limited period of imprisonment on board ship, although he house upon it this year, the limited space now remaining of the session rendering it wholly impossible adequately to con- admitted that it was a power against the abuse of which they must carefully guard. (Rear, hear.) But again, with re g ard sider the subject, he should request the attention of parka- mot the exercise of that rower, the log.book would act as a meat by embodying the views which he en t e rtained respect ing it, in a bill which he seould lay on the table of the house, very material cheek. Any one acquainted with the practice that it might be considered during the recess with that eare of the American merchant navy would be aware that there which its importance and difficulty demanded ; he referred to was a much more stringent discipline exercised there than the g I condition of our mercantile marine—(bar, bear) anything now proposed would amount to. In that navy corioral punis h ment was very frequently had recourse to, —he desired to seek the consideration by the house of this and public uptai ne o in pin t i h o e n e linercits ofU United pe Sta . Ce: su H r e po r rt r e o d . subject, with regard to the character and quay tica'iona of the masters and mates, the discipline of the crews, and the gene- the also, that when a ship should return to port ral well.beieg and condition of the seamen. There had been ineldentri discuesioas on this subject in the course of the her crew should be paid off, not on board ship, as was , debates on the navigation laws; and he could now only re- now the ease ; but In the prunes of the shipping I fficer be fore referred to—that the shipping officer ebould then put what be had them rated, that while rothing was further in from his intention than to cast any sweeping and indisere effect the log book—that be should hear anything the crew laminate censure on the officers of our mercanti le marine, yet, had to say in the way of complaint—that with regard to dis on the other hand, truth and a sense of e'uty obliged him to pastes between the captain and a tailor, he should have a state to the house his opinion—an opinion founded on summary power of jurisdiction under the amount of 40e, inquiries of no limited or superficial description—bet and that above that amount, if both parties sue. d to refer it there wadi much in the present state of qualification o f to him, he should also have jurisdiction, otherwi-e the case the officers of our mercantile marine, mach in the conditien I to be dealt with in the label way. He attached groat im of discipline of their crews, much in the general condition portatee to this part of the subject; because, by establishing of the mere haat seamen, which required urines consideration. a tribunal of this nature, they would save the sailor from lie believed that England had the best and hardiest race of the clutches of low 'monies, they would prevent much seamen that was to be found amongst nations. He had no squabbling and discontent, gad he believed that in the doubt that by judicious treatment that race of seamen might main substantial justice would be done. (Hear.) With re again be restored to the pre-eminent !widen they had ward ti the 'snits"). condition of the ships, lee should pro formerly held. There were one or two statements made by pose that a space of not lees than eight square feet should he eminent shipowners before the Leeds' committee, which, appropriated to each seamen in that part of the vend where coming from uabiassed quarters, might be safely relied were the crew were located. There was also another matter as a corroboration sr these eonsula accounts of the Batiste in which he believed the new functions of the Board of mercantile seamen. Mr. Money Wigram, who was ewe Trade might be exercised with advantage—be meant with mined before the Leeds' committee, said : regard to the registering of ...amen. Hole lieved that the pre- Are your captains in general as well e hicated and as trustworthy sent s y stem of re g istering had toe great degree disappointed 10111 as the American capt ans!—Yee. 1 believe they are ; bat I do hadproposed it. That not mean to apply that to the European tract. generally; the rebut, the capectamons of Mote w ho system of the comma on the continent are too authentic to leave a doubt 011 of tickets had been ford on the one hand very grievous to that point. Rave TOW seen the repine from the consuls !—I have not the sailor, and on the other hand very ineffectual to rrevent read them attentively, but I knew their g eneral character, and I em the mat extensive frauds. He believed now that one could afraid that ere too correct- I dare not challenge their neepurum buy in Wapping forged registry tickets as many as reepects tbc contineetal trade. (Mr. Wlgram's ships are E MI, entterd to the Fain India and China trade.) as he pleated. (Hear, hear.) t he ought rebate to Mr. Richmond, another einem, stated : have stated in a former part of his observations that It I were to sa y, the English captains bad Improved, I mine 1 he proposed that a small fine should be taken on signing should state that which was not the feet ; for the last 25 sears 000/0- *peewit!, between the sailors and their employers—and that taVe people hardly ever send a boy to see, and the consequence bas that fee should not be higher than the sum new paid to the been that we have hail to take the captains of our merchaut ships from licensed agents for performing the some duties , but from rather a less educned clam of men than the' used to be 50 or Bat ymrs Mo. 1 do not think their seaman bit is one lota impaired, but per- t he paidand the fines levied the sailor i n the fees thus baps their manner. may be a little lees refined. matter of discipline there would be a certain fund And Mr. 0 F. Young, a protectionist , and oppon e n t of raised. It was difficult to form an estimate of the change in the navigatim laws, also thus expressed his what that would amount to, but he thnught it would opinion : probably reach 40 , 0001 . a year. In considering the disposal Too indiscriminate censure has been thrown noon the commanders of that sum, it was necessary to observe from whom it came of British shies, sod not sufficient allowance made far the very Vrge in the first instance ; and it was evident that that which number we require ; believes, that taking the whole course of our trade, the toptainsof many foreign chips are a better clan than many are, from agreements came out of th e p ockets of the owner.. and that raised from fines from the sailors. He prep' std in in our own shim. the first place that the expense of the chipping offic re But, in addition to these, he had happened to light upon should be d efray ed out of that fund ; but be did not ...emote a paragraph in a Neel which had been quoted in that oust • 0001 There then remained 30,000/ —he meant Mr. Macfarlane's Italian Politics, wherein he that at above 10, . a year. found a paragraph eminently illustrative of the pesitien of might be effected. He had 110 which he thought mht const itute a fund, by means of the Bete& merchant seamen in the Mediterranean. Mr. which ver Y 'lief° purpose s matured scheme, however, to lay before the house with re- Medial roe says : d to the disposition of that fund, and the bill dealt with It eroded my national pride tore the general run of oar skippers cut so mean a figure, mot oaly in dregs but in manner', when am- if goal see p areal with these smart Italian captains. No farther tab then 20 vice pensions and gratuities could be given to the most mere ran the most general mane r ; but bethoug ht g . Tears ago the Italian skipper was mostly sesame dirty Mow, in an torions masters and mates in the merchant service, an exce I- Mem weather jacket or great with a fres? hat and • very empty . lent purpose would be answered. In giving, for example, to h under it. .11".0..ehangelwit..P"digims'.2 t seemed to me that "captains w ho had obtained first-class certificates. some badge cheat revels , . it bad bee • change for the imam. This is meter of there bed been any lige ''' . t— masters our own c•wm•-• ner- r dietinetion which would give them an authority in foreign serious comiikrailmle and eraciallY now that hazardous changes aro ports, and would raise them in their own estimator, and in contemplated in ear nariestion laws. Statists may Melo; their tables the estimatioa of others, he thought that a portion of that and bewilder us with rattan and long arrays of figures, and trent fund would be well applied. (Hear.) In conclusion he would men aeciphers, hut If the condition of the merchant captain Is getting worse instead of bear% it mart be retiously doubted whether our ult . t of greater interest to this coun tr y than that which he mercantile nav y is hooraying : and, without that nurse r y and tree- s ic Only say that he was greatly deceived if there could be any my what is to beosneof our national navy I Twenty-five I mago had now ventured to bring before the house. Te right In • ' part of the Mediterranean the preferenoe was given to ang- hon. gentleman concluded by placing in the Fan 's ofthe fish b.ttoens wherever they could be procured, and the rate of instil.. chairman a resolution fur leave to bring in a 1331 to amend sees was increased noon go res shipped le country vessels. There Is the laws relating to pilotage. no suck preference now, nor, as I believe, any difference ma:, in in surances. Mr. GLADSTONE said he was sure the house and th e And lady, the Chamber of Commerce of Bombay, in a country were much indebted to the rig ht hon. g entleman for memorial sent in by them in the year 1842, stated that even the very clear, interestingeandeonaprehensive view with which in the Indies trade the same waist of scientific knowledge, he had favoured them of • Class or subjects which had ve me ry conduct, and discipline were observable in the mates of East little o f popular exterior attraction, bat which at the se Indian trading vessels which were noticed in time was of most vital impertanee, and tested the real Ina- European merchant ships, and that, owing to this nation of a minister to do good to his fellow-subjects in the cause, if the captain became die abled at tea, most OtTiOII s cots - reiences frequently *milted from the gentleman through the whole of his speech, but would b re fiy way ollegislation. (Hear.) He would not follow the rivet hen. mates sot beirg gasified to supply his place in taking command of the ship. He wend not weary the house exceedingly glad to find that the right hon. gentleman had the touch upon one or two points. In the fi et place, he was with further details r-apecting t` e subject of discipline, but succeeded in ohtunine a very considerable remi sine of the be would state that all who were conversant with the state light dues, and he thought that those who we re connected of the merchant service not only knew but lamented the with the Trinity Howe deserved the highest sporobation of want of it amongst their crews. The whale fishery bad that house for the course they had taken. (H iar, hear.) been entirely lot to Reiland owing prattle source of employment and gain had hen transferred was that he regretted the right hon. gentleman had not made to this cause , and this With respect to the question of pilot-we all he we.ul4 say to the American whoeirs purely because of the superior die- his statement earlier in the session, becaute there might he ripen, maintained onboard their ships. He wool I now call those who conceived they had vested interests which weal.' their attention to the third point—namely, the general ton- be interfered with, and who might have wiehea for time to diens of the British seaman. This view of the question ex amine the propwed measure. (Hear, Dear ) There was might properly • x:itre very great alarm if the facts were one important emission in the right hon. gentleman's state d s. /y looked at. Durirg US° lost Year there had been, as- went, and that was that he his. not given them his views cording to the registrar's report, no lem than with regard to the merchant seamen's fund. 'Hear, bear.) 13,000 desertions from merchant ships. That fact He now passed on to the great and comprehensive scheme alone sh wed the sailor's dissatisfaction with his which the right hon. gentleman develope I in the lett.r part , position. It was sufficient in itself to induce the le nt os t o of his speech; and he entirely agreed is the principle be ' torn its attention to the improvement of the seaman's eon- had laid down that if they wished to make a reel reform is dition. The ref .tion between a seaman and his ems toyer th e condition and character of the mercantile marine they sea a very p collar one, and bad always an been dealt by. must look first and foremost to the character of the masters The sailor had never been left to make his own hareiain w ith end the mates ; for he was convinced that in prom- ion only his employer, as other lahouries were. In the United Bates to what they achieved with respect to them, could they hoe. their remteetion was cersinee by the law insisting upon every to accomplish web reward to the seamen. (Hear, hear.) sailor's contract being [bead by a notary. There was no class HO was glad cn the whole that the right hon. gentleman in of reruns in England of the rank or condition of a notary misted on the system of the compulsory examinations of mu to on account of whom these contracts were entrusted. The brokers won el t or s and metes in all future win • but he suggested not act in the 111 l t r, and the miter em conrquently left i¢ with regard to the withdrawal of certifi cate the hands of crimps or agents. Practically speaking, there• minonduct, that the mole of proof of such misconduct was for, the whole of the merchant seamen were in the bra a matter which would require the closest examination in Lord ASHLEY obs reed that the Board of Health was paralysed. It had no jurisdiction whatever except in cues where cholera had breken out, and then it cleansed the dis trict. But its cleansing wag serfsee cleansing, which did not remove any standing or real nuisance. Lord EBRINGTON, as a member of tee Cemmissionen of Sewers, assured the house that that baud eel ennead thousands of sewers, and flushed away the depoets of hundreds of thousands of drains. lie believed that the drains under the Howe of Commons were clean and clear. The coremesioners. howcv.r. hod no pewer to remove the pestilential exhalation, arising from decomposing bodies in St. Margaret's churchyard. The commisaioners had to accept of a quantity of defective map, and plans handed to them by deer predecessors, and unul a proper survey was made it was impouible that say very effieent improvements could be effected. ask was g w r as e a ! th e; Mr. LIEN LEY wished to ask the noble lord at the head of the goveremete a question. The noble loru (Ashley) who represented the hoard ot health in that house, had stated that ils co t It that p ta n r e d d d o i f d . no T t h p er s qu ' r se i rlaTer to ise a ed b ate whether those who remiss. nted the board in the house had not, at the time of the passing ot the Health of Towns Bill, and against the wishes of many hon. members, exempted the metropolis from the operation if that bill, which pro fessed to deal with great nuisances ? Lord J. RUSSELL said the reason why the metropolis bad not been included is the Health of Towns Bill was be cause the Commissioners of Woods ael Forests were of opinion that it would be necessary to have a distinct mea sure parsed for London Teat distinct measure had not yet been parsed, but in the meantime the commissioners of sewers were armed with eremite sanitary powers. THE QUARANTINE SYSTEM. Mr. HUME wished to ask her Majesty's government whether they would take any measures to lessen the incon venience trade suffered by the pres nt oy stratisn of the qua rantine system, and whetter they would propose any altera tion with respect to the eget Aron on the coast of Africa ? Lord PALMERSTON said that he had placed bimsell in a mmunication with toe commis abroad, on the et/eject of the quarantine system, in weer to ascertain whether any changes could be made in regulatiors which operated Mitt ricusly to the advancement of commerce. When he re ceived the replies of the consul', he shoal hove much plea sure in stating them to the house. (Hear.) With referees* to the second question, he micht rate at once tied it was not his intention at present to prepaid any alteration with re spect to the squadron on the coast of Africa. THE RUSSIAN TROOPS IN TRANSYLVANIA. Mr. OSBORNE ask , d whether the noble lord the secre tary for foreign affairs had received aey official communics. Ran of the advance of the Russian troops into Transylvania? Lord PALNIERSEON replied that he had received a communication that the Rump= troops tad advanced into Transylvania, and that they had obtained possessien of Cronstadt. AUDIT OF RAILWAY ACCOUNTS BILL. In reply to a gyration from Mr. HENLY r, Mr. LABOUC ERE the would fix this bill for Mon day, and then state upon what day he would move the second reading. DUTIES ON COD FISH. In reply to a question from Mr. RUBINSON, which was inaudible, Lord PALMERSTON said, that in reply to the hon, gentleman's question, who then the government had received any information resperieg the augmentation of the duties cc cod fish, he had ti state that the Smallish government had propelled to modify their tariff generaly, and substitute other duties for the present, which hewever, he feared, espee'ally as regarded cod fish, would still be high man to make smuggling profitable. When he received that tariff he would lay a copy of it before the house. NEW SOUTH WALES. Mr. F. SCOTT inquired whether any documents bad been received from the late governor of N. w South Wales, expressing an opinion teat it would be advisable to estab lish a second legislative chamber in that colony. Mr. HAWES said he would look through the mere and let the hon. member know to morrow (this day.) COLONIAL GOVERNMENT BILL. Mr. F. SCOTT asked if it were intended to bring on this bill on Monday, and if so, whether it would be taken first? Lord J. RUSSELL said he would state tomorrow (this day) what would be the course of business on Monday ; bat he might say, generally, that they would go through com mittee of supply, and take the report on ways and means before the other erden of the day. THE MARRIAGE AND LAND) BILLS REGISTRATION (SCOT- Lord J. RUSSELL announced that after the expression of opinion by that house, and the statements made respect ing the feelings of the people ot Scotland in reference to these bills, it was not his intention to proceed with them. But from what passed in the debate, and eepecislly from the ob jections raised by an hon. and learned gentleman not then in the house, he (Lord J. Resell) was strengthened in the opinion that the marriage law of Scotland wss very defec tive, and ought to be emended. (Hear, hear.) INCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL. Lord .7. RUSSELL said that, as 1 gentlemen in tereste in this measure found it imposible to attend at 12 o'clock on Friday, he would postpone the consideration of the Lords' amendments to it until Monday evening. But it was intended to g s on with the Poor•law Bill at 12 o'clock on Friday (this dey). VAN DIEMEN'S LAND. On the motion that the house go into a committee of supply, Mr. ANSTEY moved for an address to her Majesty on the subject of certain illegal ordinances or acts of council for the taxation of the people et VanDiemen's Land, the attempts of Lieutenant-Governor Sir William Denison to intimidate the judges of the supreme c .tart of that island into dezlering such ordinances or acts to be legal, and the grievances com plained of by the colonists of that island in their petition pre sented last year to her Majesty, and printed by order of this house ; and that her Majesty may be pleased to direct the local authorities in future to respect the independence of the judicial functions of that court, and also to signify her dis allowance of any ordinance or act subeequently passed by the said lieutenant-governor in council, for giving to such illegal ordinances or acts the force of law. Mr. HAWES resisted the motion, as conveying a direct and undeserved vote of censure on the governor, whose con duct througboutthe many difficult trans.coons alluded to in the motion, had been sanctioned by the law officers. Mr. HUME wished to know whether the letter conveying the disapprobation of the Secretary of State would he laid on the table of the house. It was n ecess a r y that that letter and THE CUSTOMS. any other document. that ceuld explain the transscti m should Mr. THORNELY asked the right hon. gentleman the be produced before the house was called on to pronounce its Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether any reports had been judgment. made by the commissioners for inquiring into the manage- Mr. GLADSTONE raid he did not perceive any parlia ment of the department of customs ; and, if such reports mentary necessity for insisting upon the production of these had been merle, whether the government would, in collie- papers, and he therefore thought the government was quits quence, be able to effect any materiel saving in the cost of justified in declining to produce them. imilecting the revenue of customs, and whether the inquiries Captain HARRIS opposed the amendment. of the commissioners were still proceeding ? Mr. ROEBUCK contended that the judges in this case Tree CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that had only done their duty. a rep art had been made by the commissioners which had Mr. E. DENISON regretted very much the conduct of come time sines been adopted. The reductions effected in his relative towards Mr. Justice Polder; but with due con the expenditure in consequence of their suggestions would sideration he did not think any good would be done by amount to 60,0001. annually ; hut, out of this, some allow- pressing the motion. Rens would have to be deducted for superannuated officers. The house then divided. The numbers were, The commiseeners had made other suggestions, which For the amendment would cause a saving of 10,0001. a year ; and, as the inquiry Against it 72-48 was proceeding, it was not improbable that still further re- Mr. HUME then asked if there was any objection on the ructions wand hereafter be made. part of the noble lord to lay on the table a copy of Earl Mr. THORN ELY asked whether the reports of the coon- Grey's despatch wherein he censured and disapproved el Sir missieners would he laid upon the table? W. D:nison's conduct. the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was not Lord J. RUSSELL said that inasmuch as society pr pared to say that It would be d, eirebte to lay the in Van Diemen' Land was in a very disorganised whole of the valence taken by the commissioners upon the state, and as he had stated expres.ly that Earl table. Grey had disapproved of and censured Sir W. Den- THE CHOLERA IN THE METROPOLIS. ison's conduct towards Mr. Justice Feeder, he did not Mr. BERNAL said that seeing the right hon. gentlemen think, considering the difficulties which the governor of that the Secretary for the Home Department in his place, he colony had already to contend with that any good would result hoped he weal he excused if he asked a question relative to from making public a document which might have the effect of the unitary condition of the metropolis. (Het.) lie un- lowering the governor in the eyes of the colonists, and of der , tood that the disease called cholera was spreading its seljecting him to their criticism and censure. The better savages in different parts of London. He was only surprised course, therefore, was not to lay the des; etch on the that hon. members could submit to the state of discomfort table. to which nuisances in the immediate vicinity of the house Mr. ANSTEY asked how it was the t the despatch was occasionally subjected them, particularly as they had not included in the return of all despatches ad :Tweed to the to Pit there very often from twelve o'clock in the governor of Van Dismen's Lend by Rail Grey, ordered by dey until two in the morning. The stench from the the Route of Commons to be laid on the table. churchyard (Hear, bear) from ewer the vaults Mr. HAWES said that in all probability it was of St Margaret's Ch ur ch, were declared by persons in the because the despatch in questioi was not written at the neighbourhood to be so dew* and deleterious es to oblige date when the return was ordered to be made. them to clue their windows. (He r, hear.) Even at the Mr. ROEBUCK would only rema.k that as the nob'e vry table of the house, at the head of which he was often lord had described the colony of Van Diemen's Land to be obliged so sit, odours arose the offensiveness of which it was in a most disorganised state, the maxim omne ignotuni pro quite impossible for hon. gentlemen to conceive. (Loud mognifico in sal sense might be replied to the pre laughser.) Of course nuisances of such a nature would act sent case, for it was above all things important that in such upon the state of health of hon. eentlemen who were ens- a state of society as that described by the noble lord, the charging their duties onerously and feithfully in the house. governor and heads of departments should stand pure and (Hear, hear.) He wished also te incite the oaten- free from all imputation or even au, irion of bad conduct. tion of his right hon. friend to the general sanitary SUPPLY.—THE ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. cor.eition of London. The sewers were a perfect disgrace the wuth ' ' s. (Hear, and cheers.) N ewi In , The house then went into committee of supp l y on the to all that the commissioners of sowers had done, the sewers Ordnance estimates. were so bad in his nriahbourheol, that at night he was The first vote was for the sum of 361,8951. to complete the Wised to close the windows of his bed-chamber in order amount necessary for the pay allowencei and contingencies to prevent the entrance of effluvia of a mat injurious of Ordnance military corps. nature. Persons were dying in the neighbourhood. The Mr. HUME asked if the ordnance estimates could not be erains were improperly attended to. After all the talk, allowed to stand over until Monday next, as he should not and all the effort,' of gentlemen wb a addressed them- bein possession of the report of the committee until Saturday. selves te the subject, tho sanitary condition of tee Lord J. RUSSELL said that the ordnance estimates had metropolis was a great deal worse at minuet than it been deferred until an unusually late perio lin the hope that had been in former days. He knew not whether the report of the committee would have been presented. the blame rested with the Don or Chapter or with B u t at the present late period of the session it wa s a question the City auth• ritieo, hut of this he felt convinced that for the house to decide whether they ought to be pestponed every part of London was in a shameful state for the year any longer, as such delay might carry the se'sion into the 1819, when the City was surrounded a ith disease. (Hear.) month of September, and so keep parliameut sitting until Sir G. GREY said that the hon. gentleman had no doubt it would be very inconvenient. introduced a very important subject. He could only any in Mr. BERRIES said that the house was certainly Put reply that when any representaunn bed been made to bim into a difficulty by the answer of the noble lord. Th e y of a r uisanee ex i st i ng i n an y neighbourhood he had called were now toll that although the committee had come to a the attention ref the Board of Health and of the police to it. report and resolution reap' mine the ordnance estimates, the No representation had been made to him relative to the beet way was to defer the consideration of that report u nan nt o'e state of the neighbourhood of the House of Commons, but nex t moon, and in the meantime to agree to thou o the observations just made by the hon. gentleman would estimates which the committee had probably condemne. attract observation to the nuisances to which he had This was a very awkward posioien for the how, to be place", i d . alluee 1. He believed that, with regard to she state of Lon• Last year the same thing happened. It was annottneed to don generally, the powers conferee' ow th' Board of Health them that they should have the valuable assioanse of the had been used to remove the nuisances, and that many of testurches of •coneneittee ; but still they were it the end the existing nuisances had arisen from the warm state of the called upon to discuss the estimates, without tb• ee remote weather. being before them, He would not throw OA.; impediment Mr. GOULBURN sail that when a Rant had been some in the way of public business, but trusted t hat the con tins • sine • m eyed for the repair of St. ei erearees Church, mitten wield report as early as possible. the house was told that the parte a cons. cted with the Me. COBDEN concurred with his , -ben. friend, theme ta: church were in treaty for the purcha•e of pica of ground t oes for Montrose, in requesting thet tee tooee lord would for another burying-ground. Re whew), to know whether 'sot peen the estimates that conies, The noble lord Wee that treaty had been effected ? IMotes could not have mut retool the ease nut by his boa. ELT G. GREY said he should make inquiry on the eettieect. or he would not have answered Stil he had dane. On Igor object before him. (Hear, hear.) Sir G. CLERK should confine his observations to these two measures to which the right hon. gentleman opposite had referred, which were to come into operation at a very early period—the one with regard to the modification of the 'Lehi dues, at d the other with regard to the law of pilotage. With regard to the modification of the light dues, be thought the bill which the right hon. gentleman proposed to intro duce was one which, from the reduction of the light dues it we old effect, was likely to be of great immediate benefit to the mercantile community. As to the law of pilotage, the right hon. gentleman had asked fur leave to introduce • bill which he had stated he wished to pose this session. As member for Doer, he must protest against a measure which so nearly affected the interests of his constituents h token at so late • period of the session. Till a full opportunity had been afforded the country for censiderng the dill, lee hoped it would not be persevered is; but, at all events, if it were, it would meet with his most decided opposition. jlear, hear.) Mr. M GIBSON observed that a pilot question never m could he brought before parliament, wit ut it always being thtughe neceessry to introduce a clause to this effect, " Pro vided always that nothing in this bill contained Real' affect the rights and privileges of the Cinque*Ports." With regard to the pilot system itself, this was the way In which it worked : when ships d.d not want a pilot be was forced upon them, and when they did want a pilot they could not get one ; and fie this simple reason, that the system secured to the pilot a certainty of employment and of come, in fine weather, which induced him not to take trouble and go to sea in bad weather. If the system secured him an in come in fine weather, it was not likely that he would run the risk and danger, and incur the weer and tear of encoun tering the sea in rough weather; and the cons• quesce was that very often at the South Foreland vessels which were compelled to submit to the charge of a pilot in fine weather, ran the risk of being lost through the neglect of the pilot to go to sea in rough weather. With regard to the corpora tion of the Trinity Rouse, he wee one of thole who hal never joined in a tilt against them, because the evils of the light dues had been occasioned by the acts of the crown and of the legislature. (Hear, hear.) Mr. CARDWELL said if he understood the statement of the right honourable gentleman opposite, he had brought three questions before them upon which he prop , szei to take the opinion of the house. The brit of these was to give an important re lief to the mercantile marine, and as that mea sure was not to be disposed of in the present session, he she uld say nothing against it then. With regard to the sec ind question, that of pilotage, the right bon. gentleman proposed to I rind in a bill which he was anxious to pass in the present session of parliament. It was merely of a per missive nature, to enable those parties who had the control of the pilotage to make certain remissions in regard to taking pilots where it would be expedient; and, at the first view, it certainly did appear a reasonable proposal, which lie was not then prepared to object to. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the third and by far the most important subject, the right honourable gentleman had proposed a course which must be eminently satisfactory to the house. He proposed to lay before them in detail a cemprehensive scheme with regard to the mercantile marine, and having done so he proposed to give the country a lug opportunity of considering the measure before any opinion of the house should be asked fur. He would, therefore, be no party to railing any r bjection to this bill at the present moment, nor did he think any of those obstacles suggested by the right hon. gentleman would be thrown in his way. Mr. LABOUC HERE said that it being now three o'clock he trussed that the committee would at once agree to the re solution, and postpone the consideration of its bearings until the second tending of the bill. Capt HARRIS gave the right hon. gentleman great credit for the measure he had brought before the house, we ich no doubt had been dictated by a desire to benefit the me rcantile marine; but there was one point which he had heard with extreme regret, and that was, that it was in tended to do away with the registry certificate. (Hear.) Mr. HENLEY said, after the right hon. geatleman had quoted disputed evidence in such • wholesale manner, he did not think that it was quite fair, at three o'clock in the afternoon, suddenly to cut short the oiscussion without giving any parts an opportunity of answering it. A resolution, agreeing with the necessity of introducing measures upon the subject, was then agreed to. The house then resumed, and leave was given to bring in the necessary bills. The house then adjourned until 5 o'clock. The house resumed at five o'clock. ROYAL PAVILION (BRIGHTON) BILL. Mr. HATTER moved, that standing order. No. 167, be scope sec d, that the committee on the Royal Pavilion (Heigh ten) Bill, have leave to sit ard proceed on Tuesday next, and that Mr. Armstrong be substituted for Lord Harry Vane On the sail committee. Mr. W PATTEN moved an addition, that it be an in struction to the committee to ascertain we-ether any private interests would be affected by the WI, and to report their opinion to the house. The motion with the addition was agreed to. THE UNIVEReITIES. On the motion of Mr. HEYWOOD the following return was ordered.—Retorns, for the test five years, from the Vice-Chancellor and Heads of Houses is Word and Cam bridg and the Provost of Triuity College, Dublin, of the number of Students entered annually . in the hooks of each College or Hen within the Universeire of Oxford, Cam bridge, and Dublin ; the number of Candidates in each year for the degree of Bachelor of Arta, specifying the number both of successful and of unsuccessful Candidates in the Degree examination ; the number of testimonials for Holy Or era granted annually by each College or Hall within the said Universities; the average number in each year of resident Undergraduates in New College, Word, and in King's College, Cambridge, and the annual member of Candidates from those two Cullegee in the University examinations for the Degree of Bachelor of Arts. WELSH CHURCHES AND CHAPELS. Mr. J. WILLIAMS asked the Tient hon. gentleman the Under-Secretary of State for the Home department why a portion of the return relative to churches and chapels In Wales had not been presented to the house on Friday lest ? Sir 0. GREY said that the Under-Secretary of State would be able, when in his place, to answer the question. Mr. J. WILLIAMS said he would move to morrow that the returns relative to two Welsh dioceses be laid upon the table forthwith. THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, 'JULY 13, 1849. L; 1