The Express. — London, England, 1849-03-28 00:00:00

a i s eas, that while eight Boma (*ikons towns in th: both of imbed paid ministers' messy, the protestant north was else wholly thempt hoer its marbles. (Hear, bear.) ? Beams whin the an eras refold is the reign of Queen Aaae, it was knows that the veiniest &treaters geoid set submit he the impost ; but the catholic, of the bath having hest esamislerip grand lbws. and their very Marfa argaraelka, rls dais wee baistressi their seeks m ea additheath mum et allialkiag them to the ealiallbei Chubb He was surprised that the Irish MOM" 11/106.1012 14 to OWN to that licale to ask for amenal albs is been I. their plate le would have aelsewhere, sac Ia sea a voles as would bap' lltry sad the people et England to anent to its re with It was no sewer to my that the ammeat Is dispute esayloo,oool. What was the sasemat @salad which jahrt asearba lad shut: ! a ltar, bear,) There was dee et the as as Begtish mem garrt heat %seat, sad that was the paragraph le while their aid Mead per massidalled taad was callarl ua tieZt a sababths. Itemised as it that was the pool of la whisk all there Irish cripples were dipped. Emil bugbear.) For his part, he would abolish the at ease, wheat say eubstitste. (Hear, hear ) was • Beam esthelis asaatry, especially the south, and ea what protean could they in the basteenth century all for provision for protestant piton frail a catholie people ? (Hear, hoer.) At that re , : meat there was it ems of the southern towns a clergymtv, w as was • 'anent beat the Boman Catholic church. preach ing the meet Admit sestariaa eentoes. He (Mr. Osborne) god himself heed lima call the people vagabonds from the pulpit, and vet this geetlansa was a recipient of ministers' insaey. (Hear, hear.) Ti. hon. and learned member for Duthie accused those who supported this moths of a design te mailable the protestant church la Ireland. Well, a Ir. ably, it the proteeteat church was merely a thing of pounds, amp, sad peace, the womb it went the better. (Hear, hem) But he had a s• mere faith In the durability et the protestant church that had the honourable and bathed member for Dublin. He believed that if the amigregattoual systems which he advocated were adopted, the A stablished church would arum@ an expansive character. to which it could sever aspire under the present system. The reason why he supported this motion was be cause he looked upon it as the first step tiwards a reform of that system which he held to be a di.graes to the civilised world. It was • step in the d reenact to whisk her llsjieste'd present ministers had shown as strong an iselisatims to 11136, bat whisk, hoer that day down to the present, they had ocrupuloosly avoided. (Load seise et" Hear, hear.") The time of the house hail latterly beset taken up in pram) habeas empes suspension and treason la acts, hat why bad there been so bill brought in so remove t h is crying grief,- ahra ? (Hear.) One of the moat illustrious Roman Catholics of the present day the right bon. member for Dunparvan bad drawn op the report (of the sainistm'neouey eommittt e), that report had been acquiesced is by a majority of the com mittee, and if it was not to be a mere mockery it sliculd immediately followed by a bill. (Selz, hsar.l All he should farther say wag that if neither government, nor any esthelfe Somber brought forward the gentles of the grievarnee arising out or the church establishment in Ireland, he pledged himself to do so at en early day, and he could rot rite a greater proof of his since:hydra* by giving his vote lea favour of the present motion. (Hear, hear.) eters', who had absolutely refused to visit the sick poor be cause typhus prevailed. He was not one of those who wioted to strip the protestant church of its pomeasions, hut to strip it edits vices sad its errors, and to allow it to stand on its own pare foundation and in iu beautiful aimp kitty, nor did he Walt it would be in the least endangered by taking from its own resources the paltry sum nunnery for the payment of them its own clergymen, but the oarsman% of which from the catholic* was as Nudes and en basalt to them. (Hear. bear.) Sir J. YOUNG observed that the hoe. gentleman who last spoke bad expressed • desire to place the truth Wks the house ; but in doing go be seemed to have forgotten what Mks Edgeworth bad said : that he who exaggerated truth or slated it in false colours, was a traitor to the cause of truth. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. baronet (Sir G. Grey) had rooted the recommendation of the committee. but the house should be aware that that report was carried by a majority ef five against • minority of four. (Hear.) Therefore, whatever weigh: was due to that report—and he admitted that It wee considerable—Use opinion of the minority shield not wholly be thrown aside. The great difficulty was to And • substitute for the tax they proposed to &belie& That it was a grievance to the protestant clergyman to re ceive his stipend ie this way, especially when the claim was resisted and had to be enforced, as well as it was to th e Catholic t o pay it, was admitte d, but no other source sit of which such stipend could be provided had been toned. The second report of the committee stated that mi nisters' money was not a charge on the person, bat on the property, and formed part of the property of the established church ; and it did not appear to them that any noon had been shown for relieving the owners who had come Into possessive of their prcp..r y subject to this impost from the Serge. if it were to be given up it would, like the 25 per ems. which had been surrendered under the tithe cam mutation set, go into the landlord's pocket. Mr. GRATTAN.—They have not had • penny of it. Sir J. YOUNG.—The second report farther suggested that • power of redemption should be given, and a fund thus oreated.hut it condemned the proposition for taking the money Ins the lands in the heads of the Ecelesisical C,mm4 denim is the ground that those tends were placed in their heads fur certain specific purposes and trusts; sad until these trusts were completed, any diversion of any part of the money to other objects would be • breach of fail'. Another pr.-posit on that was made befits the committee was that & new valuation of the property in the towns shield be sod% and that the rate should be levied en such revaluation he the ministers' money, for the payment of the Rotas sada.. lie clergy, and for . other purposes. That probably wee as fair a suggestion as had been put forward. Thought hoe. baronet std that the Consolidated Fund was 'Sailed to as the means of providing the fund ; but in the second report the alinsi n to the Consolidated Fund was made as being the only means by which the landlords who were liable could hope to shirt their burden to other shoulders. He (Sir J. Young) had voted against that proposition; and with regard to the press .1 motion, looking upon it, as the right hon. gewleman had said, as an omit courier to an attack on the protestant church establishment of Ireland generally, he thought the government were right in the count they took. Within a few years the protestant clew of Ireland had surrendered one-third of their property, sod no wise government would re-open the quail in. (Hear.) Mr. D. CALLAGHAN, who was very indistinctly heard, reminded the house that almost every one of the witness. beloagisg to the established church who were examined be fore the committee spoke is strong condemnation of this tat. It was an impost levied in cows where the population wee for the mat part catholic, where few protestantsresided,aad where it was not paid williegly nor without great ill-feelieg and disrespect for the church for whose benefit it was exacted. He hal always been opposed to taxation and every oil. r spreies of compulsory provision for the support of the pro testant clergy. because so long as Roman catholic& paid tithes and minister.' money they acknowledged servitude Is the establishment. This compulsory provision was a dis pose to the church. It Ltd now been enforced for 'toy many yi ais upon the majority for the sustentation of the clergy of the minority ; but it was a manifest injustiee, end would continue to be distasteful to the Irish people a hogs it remained on the statute book. Mr. RERSIIAW thought the sooner three discussions were altogether abandoned in the house the letter would it helot the country at large and for religion itself. (Hear.) He agreed with those hon. members who believed that the protestant church in Ireland was • %mi. sante. (Cries of " Oh, OW) He said distinctly that the protestant church of Inland , as by law establishe d, had felled to perform its Lesion ; and that if the house would adopt the voluntary principle, the better would it be fur that countsy and the protestant religion. (Hear, hear.) He promised, while he had the honour of a Mt in the house, to raise kis protest against the oppression of compelling the eatholies of Ireland, who composed the majority of the In habitants, to pay for the chetah of the minority. He wee happy to say that the voluntary principle was being tried in England to a great extent among the noncom/matte, and also by the members of the church of England ; that those churches supported by it were the most prosperous in the sentry ; and that it was an &beeline disgrace to be eternally contending about we ptlf and money in regard to religion. air G. GREY regretted very much that the hon. member Mr Middlesex, who had just addressed the home, bad ad. dressed it in a spirit very different from that exhibited by the mom, end also from the spirit in which the com mittee so highly solos-Lod by him had dealt with the guer illas. The Me. member stated that hie grounds for support iag the motion were that he wished to me the protestant church in Ireland altogether abolished. (Mr. Osborne : Not in the first instance.) Very well, not in the int instance. The hos. member would save the rights of exlsting incum bents, bet would make the abolition of ministers' money • sort of or oil cowries to the total abolition of the establish ment. (Boar hear.) The hoe. member would not have the money levied from any other mum, but wished to ere its collretion altoge th er suspended. But that was not the spirit in which kis (Sir G. Grey's) right hon. friend who had drawn up the report had dealt with the subject. The report said, "Your committee think it right to add that if a substitute is to he provided they do not coin cide in the view taken by the Dean of Limerick es to the reduction of clerical incomes. They think that the remune ration given to clergymen is not greater than their functions deserve, and they cannot conclude better then by quoting the evidence of the Rev. Mr. Sullivan, a Roman cathclic elergyman, who has resided many years in Cork. That redone% when asked—Do the RlOlan catholiorof Cork wish to see the clergymen of this establishment fully paid answered, that, having been secretary to a relief committee, be had bcea witness to the cordial feeling existing between the clew of both denominations, and he believed that U this cause of irritation were removed a very bear Adel feeling would be created. It would aprear, then, the what the committee wished fur, was not that these dug men who were spendiag their incomes in eight or ten *was in the south of Ireland should be deprived of those Memo, but that a substitute less obj•etionable than minis ters' money might be foun I. Now, on this poke, he con flated that he agreed in much that had been said as to the oblesUonable mode of payment. The inconvenience existed aba is Scotland, where the payment of a small rate wee egos to similar obit ctioe and had been made th e subject of I= t inquiry. lie was not prepared to inputs that from which these imposts were levied was eh jeelleetable, and that they were painfully emmeeted with the state of the poor. Several clergyman wbe bed beset examined had expressed • mega Orin thet some substitute might be found ; be, seleng side the grounds taken by the hoe. member be Middlesex, mad which he was afraid would predate some vets. against the motion, his principal objection to the motion was, that in the report no tangible substitute was suggested- It was hypothetically stated that the funds in the hands of the Ecclesiastical Commiesionere might at some future day pro vide a substitute. The report cautiously said " We believe that the income of the commisrionere Is greater than their expenditure, and that when certain secs fall in there will be such an increase in the funds applicable to purposes to which they ere at present by law restricted as will ri min it not unjust that they should meet this additional Marge." That was not, however, the ease at present, and before the house was ealled on to abolish this tax they ought to see out of what fund a substitute was to be found. In looking through the report his impression was that the Consolidated Fund was rather looked to by the winnows. The Dean of Vmeriob suggested that the bur den should be placed en the Church Temporalities Act, hut a clergyman of the &eon* dissented from that opinion. That platinum (Mr. Elates) was an important wiener, and his sehdtate was " some government fund, cay the Cons°. Waled Fend." (Hem, hear.) Now, before be (Sir G. Grey) could agree to this motto, he must be assured that tbeCemelldsted Fund would not be called upon. If it *odd appear es the result of fatam inquiries that the funds be the hash of the Ecclesiastical Commissioneve showed • surplus, that surplus might be applied to the removal of this grievance, but as the report went so farther than to ekeeet to the tax, be must way that be was not in • condition to agree to its removal. With thee views, and net wishing to meet the motion by • direct aege.ive. he Meal& content himself by moving the previous question. Mr. H. ORATTAN had been born • protests*. bred a =t. bad very likely would die • prate Cant. (A .7 1 11 Bat he preteseed against the ermagagate of the hon. sad learned member for Dublin so washed abortions. A IVOTM defense at a bad system he had aver !nerd either has • lawyer or • member of paillament. The real speedos wee whether as rafts w e as Is asthma to be perpetrated an a bedy tam. Here was an Wand sot levied ca the llaS usel a k2deneroded from the smith of Inked. He eseteaded that there was no wet vies whatever dem for this . His be.. Mend bad asatiosed the het that ia ldig there were in Ireland 60 eitureises, la width be the review three years ao awns hail Mon whined. What • mockery was to attempt le uphold seat a slain I The oars tie wao, Wafts, is anises of miss were to be caned upon to pay hr a meek atahlftmest ? In one perish with will he was aegvalalek be his emu meaty, there was • gasesame *molt wilt gran growing in the door-way, its wafts* beam, and maid stemma over be her ; It was, is feet, be • stag of eemgiste dilapidation. And why ? Hessen then wore so peetostants to attend it. In asotber eerie the.. wee but eftpeoluisat ; he had two viva, awl they Idlied Ida. egfaer," and laughter.) Yet te de rlitast .uf ids peak p i ll the inhabitants of amp' the two wives—oft be ft sot haw whether Him watOwithaest sr eathollo—wore saheb* drew an Wefts of NM a r ; tousle which he, as the owner of gl la the pal to eseallats dal fee what? i on " eths nal elf We oasis whisk mesas. worth swag after all. The seta there was go srZ sae absurdity in such (Meet, hear.) He wweesYad =heals and uphold the oshiitianst. not by soft mem as *see. bat by moral prinapio, (Malden forlieg, sad unhand charity. What meet be the Sidings if ear as *ft fellow-sable* wises they were Uhl in a'peaseleat blimp that the asthma sehroloothoods scuffs &lifts weft taught in their eft med e vim the sellien of the do& could swam *Me eltinasift Immo net limed Ho osehoomod by the oftefts, use tome they ft gifts. dad what was the stallion of the mauls at this assmost la essay of them wham from whist' probstant motors were drawing largo at to speed fa Bath or showitme ? Why, when they weal to they ware Woad to the noseatity of peoples be seakln imbed of is (lapels. Warta lefts wow mama to the assersity II bawling la the awl of peastast stables—la the stags of jestosteat honor. (" awn, ham," and • laugh.) How aff cos meld be head to Masa so debilitate • system we. Whim gatiriablig. (Hear, hear.) Ihro gbh* hos. hersnot sold he ores onlynisod at the wards of the he. somber for Mikes: (fgr. Caboras). He ought rather he rejoice that they were only words. (Haar, beer.) What wield the sight hon. basset my whoa them verde dossed sate condo—ead whoa the Tremory bomb amid se leaser be able to peovide the mans of demsse past • whale people, reseed to dooporatios by their Wafts tad sogiest ? (Hear, hear.) It bad bean mid that the mftslios were cowards— he believed that there was awash of water is *sir blood, be if they had the bleed which rem tineagli miss they sear inlaid have ealsollied es Flialtbe elessin sad Waft& they had yawl. they thielat wadi eatlifyilmier**. wh• won faced se Ng this odious hapset, to tell thus illa One woe no had s ihe hands of the sesanairsimem sat of rolishilase L degrilllSS could be id ? He amid slide them i =oom with the owhoa t f Irelsaihey l ti e ftileg them am set ham foyer to de so. Lo Me time mightt thsm reemalter Hat *arch lived by the saftrases of the ste m aeration of what tho eftlahismat hem the aftolic churnh, he would nand thot sallies et best timid titti to the catholic clergy, whim drain to the *ritual el their flocks, voids, owl emaileg the eft in the Edit of typhas and other 'Mesh= louses, formed a milted sestina to the Goaded el some of the protestant he feel any dame, that the governmentr,of which he was • member had sines • assented to the iss poenS principle of iag the tea bishops ? It would he better to have taken a direct negative, and then the feeling of the house would have been tested. (Hear, hear.) He was convinced there would be no pease ia Ireisad till the daisies' establishment was madified hn l estellant. (Hear, hear.) This it was that kept alive the leollailen sad spirit of dimmed in Ireland, which banished MOM boa iv shores, and preveired the employment of (Hear, hear) If hon. members wished church epaelimis not to be discussed here, let them remove the OWNS of the agitation, sari amongst othen, abolish this mini ten' money, which prevailed only in eight towns in irehaL Is Scotland, toe, it was confined to two 101 M., WNW. Ned Montrone lie was seemly satisfied that the alemelsee both of Scotland and Ireland would be better it ids came of excitement were removed. (Heir, hear.) Mr. NAPIER said, if th e voluntary principle was inter fend with by the church in Irelend, there would be some ground for complaint stirs that church ; bat so long s diet was not the now, Ist the rights of the church be upheld as well @ethos of others. In than diseuseicns it was always fallaciously assumed, that the church's property did net belong to it, but was a tax on the country at Lame In the ease before the house, the charge had been imposed, in the aims of Charles the Sceond, after the settlement of the U!ster plantation ; and it was done with a view to =courage commerei.l settlers from England. Hence, the title to tam property rested on precisely rte same authority as the title to the lands which were granted after the rebellion. When the towns were settled on the new inhabitants, this gent was made for the encouragement of their churches. All subsequent peeks= of property had acquired it, subject to this charge, and to the eeneilions on which the government originally settled it. Mr. o•Plynn, one of the witnesses examined before the select committee, had plainly stated that it was against the sonience of a R eman embalm: to pay ash • charge in favour of a protestant clergyman even supposing he kad acquired his property subject to that charge. fish • principle was mammy, not only to justiee, but to common sense, and to the very existence of praperty at all. Suppose the property were discharged from this liability, who would be benefited ? The owner, not the °unpin ; for the rent was regulated on a consideration of the thugs to which the property was subject. How endd any con scientious prindpie be brought to support seek a robbery as this? It was the same in the titles rentodaspe where the soupier', in case of dhtraint, had • right to make a &dustless from their rtht. The torch in his opiaion was • great homage paid to, tenth and Christianey. It was founded on the word of God in witness of the truth. lie was not afraid for the clergy of that church in Ireland if they were put on their trial beats he could bear testimony to their filelity, to their dutifulness, and to their zeal in diffusing andel. mend, and relieioas Idessinp. The hon. gentleman, the chairman of the committee, admitted that the clergy in the towns per formed their duties honestly. If they did an, was it not fair that they should be paid ? They had no sinecure, and therefore there was no neon for taking away their property from them. lie void be prepared to follow out the suggestions of different deny men who were examined before the comedies for the purpose of making the details of collection less onerous. He would be prepared to agree in the suggestioa of Dr.Weet for throwing the claim on the owner in fee, instead of the oc cupier. The oily other question was, whether they could not find some other 63112.11 for supplying this money. It was said that this property was the creation of the legislature, and that the legislature oeght to subetitate another source of sup plying it. The committee had made an investigation of the funds in the hands of the ecclesiastical commissioners, but no surplus had been discovered by which this charge could be supplied. With regard to the Church Temporalities Act, he cautioned them how they opened that question. That qiestioa could not be opened without also opening others. That act was the settlement of a ques tion which had given rise to angry discus ions. If they opened that, it would give occasion to the opening of the Maynooth grant, which had been also professedly pasted for the purpose of putting an end to annual discussions. Let them take ears that it ail not open up ads of parliament passed prior to 1834. An hon. gentleman said that the pre testant church in Ireland possessed • reverse of 1,000,0001. He defied him to prove that from authentic docu ments. There was no reason why the church should ho called en to give 14,0001. a year to land lords, many of whom were protestant', whilst those who were not purchased their property subject to the charge. (Hear.) They were not prepared to make a present of Ibis property, particularly as they had as substitution to offer. An hon. gentleman on the other side said that he supported the motion on the voluntary principle. The voluntary prin ciple, as he unites:cod it, was founded on liberty of con science. Bot if others thought that the principle of an e,tablialament was the true one, let them not violate their own principle by taking away the property that belonged to that establishment, Un der the Church. Temporalities Act, no benefice under 3001. a year could be taxed, and small benefices were to be augmented until they reached 2001. a year. The entire income of the protestant puce:bird clergy only amounted to as average of 1701. a year, and eta perms formed the average number of the congregation. No substitute was effend for this provision, end it would be an injustice, there tore, to agree to the motion. Mr. REYNOLDS sail two things were clear from the hon. and keened gentleman's speech ; first, that he was • sincere defender of the protestant church as by law esta blished, and, secondly, t'at he was an excellent medal pleader ; but he thought the magnates el that church would not feel greatly obliged to his for a defects which only said in effect, Leave us in pessimists of the mammon of iniquity." He was elm prised that so practised • 'peeks should have dwelt so lag on such weak points. Let him remind the hon. and lear ned gentleman that the enormous revenues which were 110 I• er joy& by the protect nt church once belonged to the catholic church, from which they were taken by force, subs. queotly smiths& by set amen W and that fe was under acts et parliament that the protestant church now held its property. The fact that the house had destroyed two archiepiscopal mitres and tea subordinate ones eenstituted tolerably strong proof that it weeded and exercised the right to curtail the oda blishment. (Hear.) The hon. member for Cork had no widths spoliate the church, be simply wished Is treader the bunks He (Mr. Reynolds) coold not go entirely with his hon. friend on that point; for though be desired to protect the interests of the present incumbents, he would not sanction the sp dation of the Resin catholic people. lie had special 'pod to complain on behalf of his constituents. Of the 6,0001., 11,0001. was paid b Dablin, the population of whisk was 250,000, while 200,000 were Roman catholic's. With regard to tho Roman catholic oath, he would observe that he was not sent to that house as • Roman catholic, but ass representative of the people ; and having taken the oath esseientionsly and sincerely, he could still vote with a dear seenssionee for the total abolition of the protestant church. L the committee on this subject, which sat last year, • reso lution bad been proposed, abolishing ministers' money alto gether, and the resolution was only lost by the casting vote el the right hon. the Master of the Stint, who, as a esthdis, hit a neegasy in giving his vote spinet protestant ministers. I Let the Isses bear to shed that the protestant church in, letlami—the eare the 2 h in the world, and one of the mei *Adis— o poorest re es el eat church in the world, with ea lam* of 600,0001. to the 'sinister' of a popu lation stetamberring MN then 700,000 out of a total popu lation of MIS this dab& millions. He could tell the hon. and learned gentlemen sad his friends, that the tempo ralities of the protestant church of Ireland would net be much logger endured by the population of that country. There was au agitation getting up ogainst the temporalities of that &web white would art erase till the object waa ' thoroughly attain& The people of Eigland complained of the great met el the anay in Inlandstolid the tempera Miss elthe Para then, remove that plague spot ; sad the entire army might be at once removed, He galled upon the house he called upon the government, be called am phatitially spas the premier to put an end to this epos in sult upos the people of Ireland. Mr. 0. HAMILTON denied that the property of the church in Ireland was of the magnitude represented, for if divided amongst the clergy, it would crab give to oath Mi. a year. He concurred in the posisty of the amendment moved by the right hon. Innen the Swaney of State for the Horne Department, and hoped sash excitable topic" as hod been introduced would be avoided is inn* as possible in future. Mr. J. O'CONNELL said that the topies allaisd to bythe has, member hod ham Stet iatroducod by the ImastraMe member for Wansisirehire, who went se fee ar ae, MO Nit Hewes sahib members wore Impede, Mit *sir oaths be lagpsetiog this motion. Whet km mall► male, law moil amide. He wee ewes mei go dbeirb or wakes the peasolone religion, sad aims Abe tomperalities el that Mum& masitated its religba e he tololimi that be PO et liberty to Mal with these Imps gala The bow member for Warwickshire be gehuM ilhe verge of secedes Ida (Mr. Olimaell) with the sisa etlis oath. spa to have emelletted % m ei led sweet that no keeiga plum bad Mose malms, while It wee Maim Met a bed safe Prisiistisa. (Hear, bear.) His he.. frtr had not salyloseght amvad this melba with the emend of Ms cemakessini, but actually lied hams be his posserion at that memeue Pmetest imgymett. I r equesting him to do eft (Haar,hear. ) Sir I. TYRELL emeemied that the onsetim Of minis tars' sow we. one of Newly sad not inneoissee, as ably shown by tte hen. and balsa gentlemen, the number for the University of Oxford. The house then divided en the intense that " the question be now put." For the soil= 44 Against it Coasequently the question was not pet to a deckion, se the mein question before the house wee avoided. SELECT COMMITTEES. M. W. FATTEN moved " that if at any time during the a a select committee of this house, the quorum of fixed by the hoses shell not be pupae, the de* Oldie ellasalitese shall cell the attention of the charms to the hat, who shall thereupon suspend the proceedings oldie lemmittee until a quorum be present, or adjourn the mom mitts. to some future day." ' Sir H. WILLOUGHBY objected to the motion. Mr. HUMS was of opinion that the molts: should he op dolly reported to the house. Sir G. GREY thought it hardly neesmary that spiel rah ports should be made to the hose upon each °cessions es those to which the motion referred. The question was then pot and agreed to. NEW BILL. L I Mr. SOTHERON obtained leave to being la a bill to 11111111 better provision for certifying tables of colidfillfeWs s 1 4 Madly societies, and for ascertaining the NMI" et, aelAr es house adjourned at 20 miss* after 1 o'clock. • Mr. NEWDEGATE said be was inclined to concur with the hon. member for Stockport (Mr. Kmbaw) that seek a diseussion as the present did not tend to raise the house in the estimation of the country, particularly as it had been conducted by hon. gentlemen opposite. He had li.tened with pain to the speech of the hon. member for Meath (Mr. Grattan), who professing himself to be a protestant, had exulted in the degraciatn of his own religion. and who stated that a protestant in his perish had had two wives, and that he (Mr. Grattan) believed they killed him. ( A laugh). The hon. member for Middlesex had declared in an open mealy mutter that this motion was intended to be the fore- runner of other propoials for the destruction of the church in Ireland. The hon. member fur Meath had reiterated that declaration ; the hoc. member for Cavan bed 'Wed that to be the clear interpretation of the motion ; and, if the hens I.eked at the terms of it they would be convinced that IFld have no ether meaning, because the hen. mover pro to sweep away the prep. '', of the Irish church, and substitute other property from funds which did not exiet. (Hear.) He denied most emphatically, in reply to what had Ass from hon. members opposite, that the DWI church had been wanting in her data. Daring the period of amiss, disease, and death, he hid himself heard 1 Henna eatholice state that the clew of the church of Eng- WA had nobly exerted themselves in the cause of humanity, , mad that they lied made greater sacrifices than any others for their lassVehing fellow countryman; and yet now, for the sake of snaking shoe inaieuatieu , the house had been told of alleged eireneeMenese cocwcted with the church of Ireland whisk he Maly believed existed only in the law Onetime of these who audit& the eitebliaisment. (Neer.) It was fang that Remus Whelks meerhers should be head lei girl *tweed a meths !me the promo to denude the amok of her poverty, amiss that they had sworn died bee interests. He had premised on • homer sesesies to prove from antherity that great numbers of Roma enehoiim considessi tbesaselves abs - lvt el fn m eisfey era they might have labia, which interfered with the eetumsement of their own religion ; and ha would saw premed le Mil that pledgee The oath taken by the Boman catholic membees of OM brass was to the offset that they dirolaianek simanly abjured I% seems to subvert the pestmlese herd—that they new exercise any petrilop they might weer to disturb or weaken the proteitsat Mfghan, or preemesee government of the realm, sad that they mods this deelendes, sad every part thereof, in the plain, misery mew of woods of the oath, without ani m miesedissfie mead setervelima what eve?. Now, if MI we ine so* the Muse hal the testimony of the three bit. =We= be Mawr, Meath, and Cavan that the melba tithe bus. mew fir Cork wee • direct Gnash on the cheek sehillheit *lreland. (No. as) Ibis ideskimer seem to. him dm the three hon. seembre mewed to hod seeds a behest elitimien ; and be sued sal wadentard bee them trio bed tabs the oath will pone& it to thruways@ to support such a motile. He bead on refuses. to the duress of elm eseeistary of &way sad Gregory 11. that oaths were set to be kept, If they operated against the laterals of the ohnesk of ft/is— that they were not to be aelled webs, bet palmy rather, if they %teetered with that alloweb. He aim found that Dr. Doyle and etrekblibrip Murray bad spoken very highly in their Masse behre the Hew. of Lords of thewoos* of Latina mid Onsteese and yet one of the Emmet these sonadlo wee** bath wee not to be kos with Weise ma mallets ssetelehig to the Ilessieb church. Ho thought be had now Meowed Ida pledge to prove that ems Zeman eathelim woe set bawd by any oaths whisk Is earths Wawa the Womb of their shwa. He ott. Metthat Mr. Term hew a Rases earbelle, be& not . woe 'gully doiesisid wawa if the Ow* of Is wisli as the Imes. imember - kit Madness= to peo the most =Was s bee whethyrltwom ea wheals et a pooloslont. he M. Newdepa &mai ever be bend seedy eel .ftwbeti, so far as week wise west, th e a *o *wok of Wend to the dews to which kW how** the establiahment we new exposed, from poommied Math sod opts he. (Hem) Lori ARIINDIL end SMUT sold a am woe bisnil I to break an unlawful oath whi* he old& ha* less sew 1 ph* to take—for *stens., hottest We Irk* sissdes =lke would he guilty dextrose withodwe If be Wei Monet bound to abide by it. Hat dm webs wee, as le trepreled 4 ffe r or* takes by Whoatimbers. It ha boss Istorpretul la elloint owns, and a memovethet sad protertast membm ales Isom had lately inhumed Um *Mho leek the awe taw of it ee the right hos *e minsber fir Dun garees, bed stated faa Isis Sr* *mg% *teat not keep's, faith with keee bad bees ee repeatedly gemmed that it required no yeetre reply ter Whelks were bawd to heap faith with them is *e eat citatory sew of His tars . (Hear.) He beg ii re- a WM the bones that the but. member for Cork, Alin. a oadadis*kw, had * Modestly MAW that would net Irish Calk reledsa, end that bed dtsstw Me maw aldeMdway grabs& the abeam of the egetes Irialt shinti et Whelks bad eyes ems Ils HIM said, that it to remove an &bur., an Is: sold es isequallity, had to sits& the church, then member for Cork had made that attack. But the boner should recollect that a motion precisely similar to the J had been submitted by Mr. 9erjeset Murphy in 1844, whp Lord Stanley stated that the subject of lad occupied the serious attention of ‘ III4I X the view of providing a sabatituts and WWI C i re boped, beim the tad of the retain,* be seablel is en homed pie& The fast was that Lug bog boss ow of Ike beet church Worms subs il Z sow i vi uni la that brat% for he had sheihhel uo fewer Mists lobbgoles , H• OIL Hume) thanked*. lordship Opp ogsg us. weramageogretted that he had net gum the As daft mold Whop. from the House of Levis Hotwomoq le the right hoe. baronet (1* 0. Grog rift m i me' es ce the pretest ocession, as if boom the motion pat ; bat why should THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MARCH 28, 1849. . Eke OrpxelSO• OUTGOING MAILS. - The made be New mann wens. Vaa Omani Led. NM ben Zashod will bp made is. en the evening et the Est Mara., The West Malik ferdsling heinnerta. Marlins, Nur and Mesh% aad bialadiZ y reams, Wedeln, W. hiso4b.llitaregva. War Omni', ChM. P a rs. i l l . M made up en We waninard tie WA el Aril. Malls will be ids op err Hilda. Cups de Verde Wends, Werra • Lvone._. aid to be takes ma easkeroad 6 ' by Mr m alady erbeener "r the MISS d Os Awl at April. ' The :ladle ear Modeire, time area* end Mnsnesaper. will be meads up en the ~if el tbe eth et Ihe male Ise lartneb AesiettA ed the Malted dudr add be made up as the swing el the ith et Aden. Tie mho her Talk Len" Marrs% Here.end Ofteeltal aW nods ne re tie~iserS Mae 7th of ifid. Ths mode tre Eherertm. Malta. Omen, use star hoes, Egypt, Ads., Oeybie, lathe, lloas.liewg, wed Moe. eft Boulhaapita, will be reed* upon the mania, ol 2fab DION WATS* AT LONDON SWOON Tow DAT J.l• NO 4; iotantaaa.6l skis. past 4 14-Dsaaav-24Assag. II pot Aftensah W. past A LONDON,WEDNESDAY MAR.2B CERTAIN cf the Irish landlorls—ec;me of them Pe liter and some of them whir —seem to be influ enced more by the sympathies of eats than the ties of patty, and appear just now to entertain consider able doubts whether they will not abjure the faith they have hitherto professed in political leaders and political principle', aid rally to the recruiting flag raised by Lerd STANLEY. The banner is a new one, but the inscription itbeers is the old war-cry of mono poly and exclusion. And the terms beld forth to tense whom we hare indicated are characteristic oldie cause, namely, that wherever the class interests of the Mill landlords are in question, they shall. be sustained by the entire force of the STANLEY party. The Irish aristocracy care as little for tne maintenance of the Navigation Act as the English protectionists care for that of the Irish Poor Law; so they would gladly agree to serve each other's iurpose regarding them, that their compact might teens be knit together by a mutuality of mischief. The new-born misgivings of Celtic squires about the safety of our mercantile marine are only to be surpassed by the disinterested zeal tf Mr. BANKS and Sir JOHN TYRELL for the rescue of Leah prof eny from its present liablity to the sup port of the poor. Let the people of both countries Look to it in time. Their hereditary misrulers ate leagued together in a compact, whicb,if not conjoie.tly toasted from the outset, may cost much toil and time hereafter to overthrow ; but which, if timely watched. ;had with common foresight countervailed and bathed, may be made the origin of a better feelir g and a' better understanding than bee hitherto subsisted be tween the popular parties of England and Ireland. Can any one have observed what has taken place during the Lot three weeks in parliament, and the cerresponding tone of the organs of different parties in. the press, without perceiving the symptoirs of what we are adverting to? Not only have the protectionists eta masse lent themselves to the sad and shabby pur pose of delaying the rate in aid, but a numerous election of Lord LINCOLN'S followers have not scrupled to do the same • and it is sanguinely prognosticated that their united etteegth in the House of Lord°, aided by a fit contingent of Irish whir, wilt, succeed in finally arresting its pr: guess through that disinterested assembly. On the other hand have we not seen last year's majority of 117 in favour of the repeal of the navigation laws reduced during the pre ' sent session to less than half that number ? And no body can compete the division late upon the two ccessions without being struck with the absence of some and the votes of others of the Ili h portion of the House of Commons. Wo do not mean to and bate every charge to this sole cause. We believe that discontent and anger at the conduce pursued by the bulk of the English liberal party on other questions relating to Ireland, and still more at the ill conditioned tone of observation indulged in by some who ought to have known better, influenced, perhaps unconsciously, more than one of the Irish members. But we believe that these who allowed themselves, we thick erroneously, to be swayed by such senti ments are not, after all, the men whose adoption of the STANLEY uniform we use any cause to apprehend. 'Pixie error lay inventing their supposed et nee r f wrong done to the liberties of their own pc :plc by tacitly aid ingin the infliction of an injury to the interests of oufe. We will not, however, dwell upon the topic: we only hope that neither the provccation nor the retaliation may ever again neer. Bat a new feature of the proposed alliance of St. James's-square has recently appeared. Toe Morning Chronicle announces that the Irish Franchise Bill is to be opposed, not only by the Orangemen, whom Mr. DISRAELI promises to lead, but by the wearers of Lincoln-green. As our ab'e Irish con temporary the Press has well desm ibed it,—.the rival sections of the disunited tory party, "have thus found a new ground of mutual amity whereon, to manifest their common enmity to popular right as sad Si i r lih ßo tice" is.znr We purpose ly Pitznan Sir JAMES eJAId7SinGPIt such men Y from the suspicion of participating in this miserable nom bleeders. It is impossible to suppose that either of them will ever regain be betrayed into the fol lies of 1839 nod 1840, when upon this very ques tion 'of equalising the constituencies of England and Ireland, the evil counsels of Lord STANLEY were suffered to prevail, and the prolific seeds of natiunal hatred and distrust were sown broadcast throughout the latter kingdom. We are firmly persuaded that if ministers are sincere in their professed desire to give Ireland this year the too long-delayed benefit of a large and sound elective franchise, they will find themselves supported by both the oi:em ulsion we have named ; and that they have no reason to fear any serious frustration from the giddy and petulant factiousness that was not with whig measures when they are wrong, but which seeks ter cause of cavil at every measure, if it be proposed by the whige, whether it be right or wrong. Lest year the Lineolnites offered not a murmur of opposition to the Irish Franchise Bill. Where then is the consistency of their opposition to it now? It is, by the admission of their daily organ, essentially and almost literay the same bill. It lays down a principle, as a foundation fur the tianchise, of the utmost value, not only to Ireland, but (with a view to the future) to England and Scotland likewise It makes the attainment of the suffrage depend not non the nature of the lease or other tenure, whereby a man holds his house or land, but by its value tested by rating to the poor, and proof of his payment of rates. A sounder or more expans:ve principle than date never was proposed for legislative adoption ; and -c.ry true friend to the extension of the suffrage in "d and in England will assuredly press for its IT is, we believe, no new opinion that many of the counties of England ere tory-ridden as much in consequence of the supineness of the con stituencies, as from the power of the aristocracy. Whenever the liberals have assumed a bold front, the have been effectually rooted. Middlesex, t igtraterland, and Essex were notable instanc:s in paint at the last general election. All three were about to be left in the Lands of the notice; but by vigorous rfimatuat were sucosinftilly remelted from their grasp. Tblife were a dozen other counties in which the liberal canoe might have been equally triumphant had there been spirit enough in the oonatituenciee 0 fight the bat.le. But there seems to be no one to look after the liberal cause in these districts, and no one to fight the gpod fight when an opportunity occurs. Two county elections that have taken please within a very few weeks, attract attention to this subject. If there are any two divisions in England in which the liberals ought to return the members, those divisions are South Staffford and South Derby. In South Staffordshire one- I half of the constituency is manufacturing. The town of Wolverhampton, and the important district peiniag Wain% West Bromwich, Wednesbury, Derlaston, and adjacent pikeek ought to return a county member without dilbalty. In South Staffordshire there is the strongest feeling in favour of free trade. The Wolverhampton people pride themselves on being the authors of that agitation. Yet when an op portunity comes of showing their adherence to the priatiple, not a movement do they make for the pur =carrying out their views. This la the more • able because the landowner of the county lose by no means unanimously opposed to them. Sir It. PEEL could not have supported a protectionist in Ifrodtion to a free trader in the Tam division. In Lichfield the PAGETS MI Aram are most powerful. Lord HA mirror; roles Penkridge, Lori WROTTESLET summands the tenantry upon the aide of Shropshire. Of these powerful nobles Lord HATHERTON at least is bele red to be hostile to any comprdmiee If a liberal candidate were procla , med, not one of them, for very shame's sake, would venture to preserve a base neutrality. What good reason can be given then, fo • allowing this important county to be quietly handed 01:4‘ to the Earls of TALBOT and DARTMOUTH, and the pettysquirearchy and miserable toadies with whom they ere associated? If the single reason be that tee ANSON family are not wealthy, and that it would las inconvenient to "the Colonel" to be put to the coat of a contest at the next general eleCtion—why, we say that is a very bad reason, and one which the Wolverhampton people ought rover to have admitted. The idea of this town permittieg a protectionist to be elected for the county under a family compromise is really too preposterous. The case of South Derbyshire is scarcely less fla grant. The largest properties in this county are possessed by liberals. The Earl of 'Ate esren and Vis count MELBOURNE are both large land owners. The Duke of DevossmßE has very considerable influence. The important aed incressieg town of Derby is Essen tially liberal: Belper, and other villages, contain large maeufecturing constitaer.cirs, and some of the menu factarers—as for example the family of STRUTT have raised themselves to the biAlast posit'on in the county by their industry, energy, and ability. In South Derbyshire there is absolutely no other tory isfiner.ce than that of the squirearchy ; for the most part a body of little ability and great encumbrances. Some veers ego a body of Ulcer gentlemen met together over a dinner table and arranged among themselves whom they would propose for South Derbyshire in several successive parliaments ! They took Mr. HURT and Sir GEORGE CREWE in the fist instuce, and then they decided on being represented by a Mr. Mutant and Mr. COLVILLE. These last nulled squirm ns were decided tories, and that was their only recommendation. The first of them, p. or man, died the other day at Barbadoes, where he lead gone for the benefit of his health, and it became the duty of the county to elect another representative. The Squires who manage the representative bu-i -sees of the die( eien thereupon met together at an inn at Derby, and coolly decided that Mr. MUNDY, of Markheston, a relative of their late member, was the man whom the 7,000 registered erectors of South Der byshire mere to send to parliament. Now the first Mr. MUNDY was bad enough, but this second Mr. Muenv was many degrees worse. The first could not speak when he tried—the eecoad never had tried, because he never had found an thing to speak about. Even in the ordinary public busi ness of the locality he had never taken the slightest shore. Ile was entirely unknown to half the county, I and the other half bad not formed aey favourable opinion of him from a eircumstatee we have to mention. ) It happened, in the course of last year, that a case came before the public in which Mr. MUNDT was con cerned. One of his dependents rented from him a It:wee in a hamlet which stands upon his property, which he used for the purposes a a school. Tue man was a Wesleyan, and as the hamlet contained no Wesleyan chapel, ministers of that persuasion performed in this school-room the services of their body. To this Mr. Mins uir saw fit to take objection ; and as, nevertheless, the s-rvices were continued, he camel the occupier to be served with a legal notice to quit. To this emergency the schoolmaster submitted, and the services were discontinued. The proceeding was, however, very offensive to the Wesleyan body, and one of their local leaders wrote to Mr. MUNDY a strong letter, tr which, we believe, no rejoinder was vouchsafed to him. The matter was publicly mentioned at the time; but Mr. MUNDY was an obscure man, and his conduct was rather regarded with pity than with anger. But when Mr. MUNDY presented himself for the county, p ople began to consider whether the princ , ples to which he bad given cif- ct as a lane lord were such as befitted a British legislator. On his first pub'ie appearance be was questioned on the matter, when he avowed the transaction p ecisely as we have stated it. He urged in vindication, first, I that be did not th ink any sect should be put on a per with the church; second, fist the schoolmaster and his pu pils might attend a Weslee an chapel at Derby without his interference ; third, that he did not think a private house was a proper place for the performance of divine service ; fourth, that the schoolmaster still continued to be his tenant. It is needless to say, however, that these reasons could not be satisfetet ry. It was ac cordingly determined to oppose Mr. MUNDY. The candidate selected was the Right Hon. EDWARD STRUTT. As a native of South Derbyshite, a con sistent liberal, a csnsiderable landed proprietor, and at the same time as largely connected with the commer cial affairs of the district, no better choice could have been made. When the first overtures were made to Mr. Breen, that gentleman said he would not gage in a doubtful c ntest. Some suggestion weal ben thrown out that there should be a requisition, and Mr. Snarler expressed an opinion that such a requisition as would induce him to stand could nut be obtained. The supposititious number of 2,500 requisi tionists having been Vaud before him, he admitted that with such a call as that no man could decline to come forward. The requisition was undertaken. In one week, by the spontaneous movement of the constitu ency, 2,221 electors attached their names to it, or within 275 of the outside number first mentioned. These names were very closely and carefully scrutinised; and from the mode of examination adopted we are enabled to state with perfect confidence that every signature wee genuine. 225 of the subscribers bad supported the tory candidates at the preceding election, making a difference of 450 on their poll. The contested election of 1841 had moreover brought up about 700 Wesleyan electors, of whom nearly 400 bad voted for the belies. The requisitionists now re ceived from the Wesleyan' the most positive assur ances that none of their body would vote for Mr. MUNDY; and the most important sad influen ential of them tendered to Mr. STRUTT their earnest support. Those who are conversant with the requisition feel no doubt that it was equivalent to 3000 votes on a poll. There is every reason to think that this would have been a majority. A large body of the electors would have been neutral. Mr. STRUTT is a public man of considerable station and unimpeachable integrity. The tory candidate is an obscure person, convicted by his own con tagion of either the greenest ignorance or the =bigotry. Mr. Snaterr, however, declined put in nomination. His decision was an nounced on Tuesday afternoon—the election was to take place on Friday morning. The requisition was not transferable. There was no time to get up another. or to make known throughout a wide-spread district the claims of any ether candidate. Mr. MUNDY was according) y permitted to come in unopposed, and thus South Derbyshire continues tory-ridden. We lean Mr. STRUT!' to give his own reasons for refusing to comply with the request of 2,200 liberal electors. It is not our object to aggravate their dis appointment. We will only my that it ought not to' have been on light grounds that that disappointment should have been given them. It those who are in the position of electors owe a duty to their country end to their principles, so certainly do those who are by their station liable to be placed in the position of candidates. For our own part, we cannot bet beak upon South Derbyshire es a county thrown'away. We believe much of the dread of " standing for a county" arises from an undue apprehension of the labours and expenses attendant on a canvass. We believe that these aro greatly overrated. Why should there be agents; cad banner, and open hares in every polling district--ell the para phernalia of an election contest in every paltry village ? The work of an election can to done without all this. " When I canvassed North Derbyshire," said Mr. T. °MORSE, upon one occasion, " I had neither committee, nor banners, nor any other agent than a bill-sticker. I sent him through the towns and villages to give notice when I would visit them, and I need to ride over at the appointed time on my shooting pony, and get up era a wall, or the steps of the Village Cross, and say, • Well, gentlemen, here I am: now let us talk a little shout polit:ce.' And by this means I secured my election, and any other good man and true may do the sane." We believe it. Mr. OeBonNE, at the last Middle sex election, proceeded on much the same principle, .t inded won , r i g a h t no - v gone from 'monied. us. Reformers —he leaves us the intinen.s of his examp!e—preserve the t lig lie htforw wilm ard, g an rea d tly en a e i r d ge edi tie by ms on n e, memory of HENRY HULL, of UXBRIDGE. gbe court. The Judge-Advocate-General had an audience of the Queen on Monday at Buckingham Palace, and sub mitted to her Majesty the proceedings of some courts martial. The Duchess of Kent visited her Majesty yester day. H _er Majesty and Prince Albert honoured the per isfniancs at the Its al Italian Opera House with their pre pense yesterday evening. The royal suite consisted of the rineheat of Sutherland, the Counter' of Charleston'. Hon. Mies Dawson, the Marquis of Ormond", Lord Alfred Paget, and Colonel Homan,. A deputation, caasisting of Mr. Edwin °swirl. Chairman of the Shipowners' Towing Company ; Mr. Ale:- ander Willis, from the None company; Mesas. David Hellcat and John Drysdale, from the Caledonian Towing Company ; Mr. Griffiths, from the Thames Towing Ceropeny ; and Kr. William Watkins, hid an interview with the Right Hon. H. Labouchere yesterday at th- office of the Board of Trade. A deputation from the trustees of the Grosvenor place district, eonsietiag of Lord Castlereagh, M.P. Mr. Grenville Berkeley, M.P., Mr. H. N. Turner, Kr. C. Graham, Mr. Robert G. Smith, and Mr. Berry, accompanied by Mr. Gee. A. Walaise, clerk to the trustees, had an inter view with the commissioners of her Majesty's woods and fo rests yesterday at their office inWhitehall-p . lece. The Marquis of Nermanby had an interview with Lord John Russell yesterday. Mr. Ricardo, M.P., had an interview .yesterday with the Right Hon. H. Ltbooehere. TIER MAJESTY'S DRAWING-ROOM to-morrow will commence at two o'clock. As previously announced, the mourning I.r the late King of Holland will be dapensed with on the occasion. PRINCE ALBERS IN GLENESK.—Tho Breclig Ad verther says:—" Lord Panmure recently offered to Prince Albert the privilege of shooting over an extensive part of his lordship's Highland domains, which offer his royal highness has been pleased to accept. (From last night's Gazette.) CROWN OFFICE, MARCH 26.—Member returned to SPOTS in this present parliament for the county of Derby, Southern Division Mundy, of blarkenton, in the county of Derby, E.g., in the room of E. M. Mundy, Esq., descend. DUCHY OF CORNWALL, SOMERSET -HOUSE, MARCH 20.—The Queen has been pleased to direct letters patent to be passed in the name and on behalf of his Royal II ghnees the Prince of Wales, for the appointment Of James Robert Gardiner, E.g. barrister-at law, to discharge the duties of Surveyor. Gene ral of the Duchy of Cornwall, in the room of Lord De L'lsle, resigned; and for the appointment of Jmhas Wigley Bateman, Esq., to discharge certain of the duties, not otherwise provided for, attached to the office of Rec • - General of the Duchy of Cornwall, lately ‘ held by Sir Henry Wheatley, Bart. TIIE CASE OF Tan REV. MR. SIIORE.—Lest even jai, a meatier/ washeld in the Islington Independent Chapel, 114 h-street, lelingtoe, "to consider the case of the Rev. Mr. Shore, and to adopt such other measures as will lead to his immedia• . e liberation from St. Thomas's Gaol, Exeter." The Rev. Mr. Mollie, minister of the chapel, took the chair, and said, they were not there merely to consider the case of Mr. Shore, but also the great principle involved in the ques tion. It was an astounding fact that a mierstate( the gospel, in 1849, should now suffer imprisonment for his honest con victions. When he considered this he could not account for the apathy which EGglishmen had manifested in this case during the last two or three weeks. The law which they had met that night to condemn was a relic of a dark and despotic age.—The Rev. Mr. Theresby moved a resolution expressing dissatisfaction at the proceedings of the Bishop of Exeter, and a perfect confidence in the Rev. Mr. Shore, and a deep sense of the injustice under which he suffers. And concluded a long speech by saying that he and other gentlemen intended to pro reed on the morrow ('o day) to St. Thomas's Gaol, Exeter. The resolution and another of a shell a character having been carried, a vote of thanks was given to the chairman ; after which a collection was made, which was distinctly stated not for the purpose of pay ing the costs from which Mr. Shore was now suffering, bat to defray the expenses consequent on calling public attention to his case. The meeting then separated. STEAMBOAT EXPLOSION ON TILE RlTER.—Yester day morning about 9 o'clock the greatest alarm and excite ment prevailed among the passengers at London-bridge Wharf, I. consequence of a serious explosion on be and the Waterman Steamboat, No. 8, by which several persons were much injured. The steamer left Woolwich shortly before 8 o'clock in the morning, under the charge of Capt. Warren, apparently in good working order, with a fair freight of passengers. She proceeded towards London, and at the time above named reached the Londos-bridge pier, where several persons landed. All then seemed quite safe, but just as the captain gave ordt rs "Go alma," a loud explosion was hear I, and the next moment a large body of tire and steam was seen issuing from the engine-reom. The captain finding the lower part of the vessel was on fire had her made fast, and then immediately adopted steps to release the men who were engaged below. Several at tempts were made to descend the ladder leading to the engine-room, but all efforts were useless, although a great quantity of water was thrown down. After a few seconds had elapsed, the engineer, named Thomas Williams, made his appearance in a most distressing condition, the whom of the upper part of his person being dreadfully burned and scalded by the action of the fire and deem, which filled the engine-room. Shortly afterwards the stoker, named Samuel Spencer, was released, end he was found to be more injured than the lut-named person, being shockingly injured from head to foot. They were taken ashore, and conveyed to St. Thomas's Hospital. The origi n of the explosion is yet not positively known; but the engi neer informed the reporter that his opinion was that the tube plate at the end of the boiler burst, which consequently let out the steam and water on to the fire, which blew off the furnace doors, and in a few seconds the engine-room was com pletely filled with fire and steam. The sufferers are progress ing Cs favourably as could be expected. The steamer, which ' is completely disabled, now lies off taueenhithe for further examination. - MONET OItDEIMI.—A notce haahren ironed from the General Post-oftlee, stating Mat on and after the let of Aprii, the (aortal; Mikes will be opened ftr the issue and payment of money orders : —Brynmawr, Brecknockshire ; Lianrwst, Dmiblghshlre; Newhaven, Sussex ; Wandsworth, Surrey. FINANCIAL REFORM. sIttfARYLEBONE FINANCIAL REFORM ASSOCIATION. Last avening . a meeting of the inhabitants of the Rectory district, us the prink of Metylebone,:was held at the Westmoreland Arms Tavern. George-street, Portman. square, for the purpose of carrying out the recommendations contained in the resolutions adopted at the general meeting of the parishioners, which tale place at the Workhouse-yard on 27th February last, by forming a branch association and adopting a petition to parliament, pre) ,rag for a reduction of public expenditure and taxation.—J. NIBI3XT, Esq., church warden, in the chair. Mr. GARNETT read the resolutions agreed to at the mesting of the 27th Feb., and called upon all present, by enrolling their names as members, to aid in carrying out the objects of the association. Mr. WILLIAMS said that the necessity of parliamentary reform, and of such a revisal of taxation as will have the effect of placing the burden on the income and property of the country, instead of, as at present, on the necessaries of life, was now beaming a self-evident truth. To effect these objects the people need only take a lesson from their aristocratic rulers. By combination and ec-operation they contrived to wrest from the in dustry of the country immense slurs for their own advan tage. If the working classes thought proper to make a com bine I effort, they would obtain a large measure of redress, but if they looked on esatentedly, and did nothing, they would most assuredly be made to suffer to a greater extent than they now did. (Hear, hear.) Since 1835 the p of wutefel expenditure had been advancing without a r TZ --end now that it had become a ..grievaisee to which the attention of every man in the ootbmunlty was awakened, Wthey could not fail to observe with sur p rise small amount of support which any preposition for retrenchment met with in the House of Commons. He would not say that he was surprised that 'enemy found no favour in that locality, for Mr. Hume and be had often stood almost alone on fernier occasions, when vainly urging propo sitions for ',retrenchment in the expenses of government on the house. As long as the people neglected their duties, so long would the house be constituted as it was, and it was only by combination and union that they could succeed in getting rid of the system. Notwithstanding the increased in dustry and frugality by which the working classes were characterised, their con dition was getting worse daily, and it wee difficult to understand how it could be otherwise when ' l BO millions of taxes, public and local, were taken annually from the Industry of the country. He firmly believed that sale s the people Interfered to control and amend the state of things which required such enormous expenditure, they would soon be worse off than any nation In Europe. (lieu, hear.) At the same time he advised all men to keep strictly within the pale of the law, for he believed there was an abundance of power in the law to carry them over their diffi culties and secure a triumph for them at last. Messrs. SODILX, K IN BWIT, HODOES, and several other gentlemen, also addressed the meeting in explanation of the objects delis smociation, and of the mode in which it yea proposed to carry them out. A considerable number of mem bers were enrolled. A petition to parliament was adopted praying for a refers in the present system of representation and a reduction of taxation • and the usual vote of thanks having been given to the chk rman, the meeting, which was numerously attended, separated. COUNTY MEETING IN SUSSE3i—PROTEC • TION TO AGRICULTURE Olt. FINANCIAL REFORM? Yesterday a meeting of freeholders and other inlut bitants of the county of Sums, convened by the High Sheriff, was held at Lewes. The meeting first assembled an the Corn and Hop Exchasge, but adjmuned from thence to the frost of the County Hall. From 3,000 to 4,000 persons were assembled. Major CURTEIS moved the first resolution. He drew a strong picture of: the distress existing among the agricul twists of East fkasex. From the information he had ob tained from country bankers sad others he believed half the farmers must stop payment at Michaelmas. He attributed this distress partly to the lad harvmt and yto the malt and top duties. He repudiated protection, a pertl nd concluded by moving a resolution condemnatory of the malt and hop duties. Mr. S. SELMES seconded the reedatME._,„„ • r r 1 4 1, "4 let': :"Thy 1 7; At: Ar, ▪ tt I