The Express. — London, England, 1859-07-30 00:00:00

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S. be bad IA SAX la DAIDAIOUWA.4ILAtee.II..BO••••••6•es Ildrelie•Vieme. k)NDON CARPET WAREHOUSE. W417111N MIN =INN ma logowbe of CO mom/ft of UN INC Ike della. sot se Ire um . Dartandlow. Saps (Nous . of CO. wer, sir. Conesoles.-11 rid Nemem. Out ond IS as I ft holimarransemod. A. lI IL LINM PATENT PORTMANTEAUS AND V r aLLIX *A WITII 11121/AV:111111104. ..e ItituiTord I S l VlM=ouswas of Oars' am& Piss& salima depona• rd /2. WART CHAIR'S. COUCHES, sad BELI6. JO MOWS 11$01111K10 Wm am et w h ir= brow ram w Yob MY smell Ibr um MOM INIIMM7OIIII WNW& ONSIMONS boa 4:11 1: Oird AILP-ACTIXO SYPHON TAP. • T OAd i vatrzr. • =l Viz:n% • Oaga i nd ragil Waivals. le sraisrutaffilica Tat &MN. mat slaw W it ." lerttro ATZA S S " h t i 4. lbws b 4 tl i tre....littlarMiaseL ..l Pro. It a i l it i t Mos 1.4011ww.4 =jowls FOR WATERING GARDENS, he. J. L. IIL/ICUOIIII 111D4 IIt.rSIMIL MOOS Pale.. rade Ow SW wpm. of my Mow gir.ftili. Aim Sir rod Mir J. 103. 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Is VW ranAt.se ilibm*** P r . wa y ..lk lA. pat fres —TZUOI. E olicl to INVENTOR/1.-OMM for = ii.W.Mrairta=iroirs lasim = 1" 414 4144 sod sologrol. 41.441.14,4 ~Mos 1414616•14 Mum& sir oull airmile amp aollmoi r. 011=444. kombly 4 4 IS rim. Ara 645440441.• ie 64.144.14,404.1. g Fano 44 buret Yr.& Al*/ 44 .... 440 ... lair le Now. raises MI 141.1444.444.1444 4. Tudalsomium careisraws. w•c• GREY HAIR RIONTORED to its NATURAL streets:, .1..! HIM Igri traall a rg% KTIO MU Waal Ut. Que. is. •. is lon OM Halitaal V. IL bl. • rem Promily• ay PIM 41. ed alliewolilig= irwr.ssi th. liffamb. 11. di alilai7ll7Q verformie Melo. THE RACES ea FETES.—Lake win led the 1 salado. a awn/ma MALT 00111 walla, acn e la 111•111.11 g Übe &Kerr add bra a dr adoca sa ea and a. masa ‘, dada al la do ord 4a ~Ma as dad a boom .0. 4 mail.. data a IsMadad ad liztja tar dada adia ode dismat arliad daria ea esd ladaa aim a ths dm . plapia la aiondad wo emaila do= moo OooN at azky tar cd . tdr b...... _1ama =two i it Wad ainaa. Idddir imara W al I MP O. 11, all OM. so. ifireirimmus a .► k ai ir ..• tp, u.......... ••• •-••••••••% NEW DIECOVEAT la MEDICAL SCUCIOL dom* awl 1, a r sal am maisseal ▪ ei lln .O=llawmils4 • IRO dhow Or irisimplil sassift. 4011i=r4 a ni t Is my 04.4n0 pa mumps./ e5.er5...441. emiaand 011111111. /IWW. WIPWWWWIWR VOL FLEAS, sad LICE, la Soo, sift. PBE2 by Mora Yam pump% ARTS Aug ER !id MANIA ATILD by DI. b 105711 Mate? I.LLM: Wl= Lse =NNW OP isb= I. yonlobly birolar .• an eablbyeN vt Vt. i= n rre.. ""ls. ..l4 he Me = l = ,„ of %V.P , IT bowl AYR ems. 11•111 Ans. a:L A /LC ,se *Mei Mb IippiSINNIII IS 1111 MAW kr asialss. NEW VORA IT TRI AUTHOR OF "JOON NALIVAL* A L - LI FE . " J obilarliArromiromm•: . "A Wrest Tbiestusbest Wows,' ha nem sad iram.. Damask ares amilly••l64•o4. "TM Bra et low Roes bow om tw bee VW*. Flu la. OW ? BIR D /1011111 LY PAST tre A L L the Y Art °l ß It 0 U ND. wrr.rrrWON* ao.l2:= Wani... • TtaL . J.4 . C11.112. !wok tho Owed The Golgoo West UTiolm • I Z.—Tlmi Pooporro llow—X. Two TWoono—Xlll. TOG rd. low of oWiosootriri i kkow ami r Niamey—M. Th. Mosel Toodores—XT. - Alm Ws OWswlss Miser : rke A 11sowie literlf t with Medd • 11•• lad s Jam/ Is I aft Er= it t ar aiii 11.• Tie Twit W War Grp Ow 1 It Oran Wir t. r i g: • Mine I a Tiro now sr. . mi.= A. I• t riaket IA telt Owls Tbuse Mem 1,4 •.15.P.1:1 %MO 081•11111•••• A; Ais n• Ws Lemont ••botrewtal e I" Th ill :V 11. SW* To Dun Mr ailer' Istuper s Way la Isdia 11•611sor 1 Wwws • Pim la Os art on omit Sunise awl Is /101-Tatilo Yobs's. It MO swilloossil. ENDII in CANADA, INDIA. AUSTRALIA, miss km Lek Yds.* Mem. sisold sod II E MS maw s& soul I.IOIV &ILL ?Mit Is et aull maw lisessiliag so Wink ess4 maim as loam w Illsosis Wirt Tools raisusis.—PiAllissi Naga% or. MwK laireelt MrrYiw *ft& uOrkla. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.--FamAy, JULY 29. The Lou Caucasian leek his ma oa the =clack et 8 edema. CHUMPS RATES. The llneyda d IMLISBUILY appealed to flea sonars neat kb gib. tie /Mai a tree that tile bill low peses ibr iengh the Iowa" boon Os abolition of cane* mat alma net be prerent yeacsansd with by Ur* larnahty• therbig the aurias. Tee Due of MARLBOROUGH add that the comeiltse rverady appointed by their lordships had reesoord • pest dial of eery vrloabis isfonnation, which would ehaetly be reported; and it was of the n•rnost isoportattoe that before any issirisslort took place on this gob** tur public should have au opportunity of cousidering the whets of the asides's*. US*" (WM ciresse•tonor he hosed ire Maj. sty's goners- Neartrusill reourales the resoonahlener et ast.pteseesliag say *mbar with the bell earls( the awn totifteat of tie re sent atria. Th. Dire of NEWCASTLE seed set reeekid debt lord , ships sheathe bill warli bed bees termd wee sot a were rest rosteeni, and that if it mow up trots the other how it world no doubt be nodded to mere private reenstar. It reek therefor* be impuriele Ire bee Mejtety'e gerireantst to give any wrests ea to the toner 'bet right knew be taboo in rowel of the wartare. At the ase they be se retdy to admit that, cendderisg lb. be. pored it midi erne it 'odd be rapsord to are up hest the Cowman It our tt. individual °plebs that • isesture of seat mini saki ought sot to be rand open she ken duds( dr pri seat peer. (dear, luter) Mill it erne right to say that is panda( thimble tetra surrittee there hat bets • dir tier sedreirdlog dr lira It abeeild sot inter whk any Vikees sahket. Dulie el MAttLBOROUGH agreed did there bed bets ea stprearon of *pukes es the pert of sable kids to the ear erad by the noble dike; bat b. esatsid lir It wend be es set el gnat breeederrey err eggisindes the emit*. she arse dark set reit far le report. LITURGICAL Inrd R BURT preetiand a 'nobles pniying kr a royal stesim on to Mew tho liturgy. Ho dwelt opus the denies of bdise et the laity at wail so dem to attain this is pormst ottpsm—em object which, be wee entry to no, had, Mace be be. milled attention to It toga *ppm. d is convoow doe. The Anat.lebop of CANTERBURY was obliged to Laid nary for not bringing focused this qatatio• in a formal wee at this period of the steam. Toe Bishop of LONDON did not think that the mane toben by the petitioner* was the right way to shonen tbe enema. Tee gentles aroma, how was lb. liturgy to be &b -lanketed. Wee it by shorten* the service. altering the doetos..P TM letter coons would end by splitting the Clinch of Ragland into two patine instead ut embracing, so it ism dom prem. boldlag a moiety of salute:lents. fie enplaned b the hien that the bench of tiiiitopt °mad, rut shot they bed the power to outdone i any clergyman to use the litany ea a separate ae will es it. COUMUUILIII fkrinnt. la tatitedral these at/vices bad always bees sem ressid, seil bead sot we why the sees course should not besdmMetl in churcbse if it met Ms apprubatien of the All the good ielakb the petPioners wished to dies Webs be procured by diffetent means, while their elegesed ask of procedure ieiiuld only lead to evil. After a few words him Lords Et:vary, Yowys, sad Dm- Lord BROUGHAM thought matters or tbia Mad totter , 1 bids la the beads of the bench of Whops, who had the power ablady to do wrote was usreiteary. The Duke of NEWCAS fLE 'bought the initiative In the emote, ought to be left to the okrgy, although he could not ethnic that the tail should be 'winded. He hoped that lair's lewd Ilburr brought forward this whirr' neat seminal he would rate what it we. he purposed to co. The petition wee 'Mon urderid to lie on the table. The other ardent or the day we.e disposed of, and their lordelops adjourned at a quarter to 7 , ROUSE OF COMMONS.-FRIDAY, JULY 29. (Continual from yesterday's Azpreas.) The hone. resumed et 6 o'clock. IRISHMEN AND IRISH OFFICERS. Mr. SCULLY sod that he would next mmion more a ea- Gelation er.peessiag the opinion of the boom that it yea not politic ae jwt to exclude native born Irishmen from the port das of cabinet ministate. end from the offices of lord lieu tenant of Ireland, chief meretary of Iretend, under secretary of Irelesd, commander of be forces in Ireland, nememl of Matt o o .11, end anti conmale4ionrr fur the edmlnisMetios of poor-lass m Ird.mL (L metier.) And he Would also mow es a separate, distinct, and indepeodent medmi—Daintleess) The SPEAKEM—The hoe. member can only glee notion of ems modes. MITAL CASINO OF SHIPS. Sir J. PAYINOTON limbed to mk tbe Secretory to the Admiralty what poirese had been Illae4l wi.h the experi ments of the ante of Artillery cm metal cosmic of ship., which were direetd by the lots Booed 4-f Admiralty, and what at.,. It w stewed to take tr the Maiming of the the late b mrd to order the condreetion of • monks= of war cowered with iron ? Lord C. PAG ET said ha wa Barry to ay that 11011211 &day had wowed is carylag oat the uperiatesta. The hat that ure to mud io plates of virtue sate had eel, jut emu thew be, tad consuoratly the *optimum bed bon much delayed. They would set, however, be proceeded with tstr eawheatly. bet they could we order a mead Ira chip all they baew the melt at the drat ezurimenta. DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH ROME. . _ . Os the MOMS for the sikoersisost ef the home, Yr. SCULLY wished to mit the First Loot et As Trea sury whether the sovereign of the Roman emir had (sally ecoepted or declined the pattern of president OM tb. cum federo,e stems of Italy ; sad wieder, in the mat of the 00Vt - rel,(11 pontiff accepting that ale; it arm Winded in the part of her hiajnety'a government to adopt eSestael steps for ematthahing direct diploro.tio :abalone with the mart of Roma Laird PALMERSTON mid that if be were to answer the goe•tion thtn, be ovoid out speak again on the potent salon. HYDE-PA R K In reply to Mc W. IMAM. Mr. FI rz HOY mid this two years ago complaint. were mob agaiont alhowhat um to nom unrestriordly iser the perk, and it or Ow the oinvesience of the oath, teat nib had hens graded, whisk mindeed the an.. within awroweir limits. If the pubis whiled that they abeald allowed to room at large be mold mats artangenwout to meet the politic convenienoe. CHURCH RATH!! ABOLITION BILL. Mr. CROSS mbed to bow whet were the inientloos of the goverment whit reword to the Church Rates Bull, which Mod omega the stare ler tbat Be trusted it would sot be brought an et two o'clock in tM mormg. He bad given bode, of ankh' eamtlasent. similar to those ar mload of by t priersimint in 1156, ..4 on which ths bombed .ever yet prenemeed ea eyinioe. Unh rwhen the 1W erne en the gweernineet were peopand to tom. their Mee rltl straerd w , betn, be would oppose the further pro rate drib hal thot TUE DRFENCRI OF THE COUNTRY. i re BIRITINCI *pima whether aim warn any telso tiaa an ta• pat of law Najaal'a toyanamant M mem the naval arammunt at 'ha mantra. obawang the , the ainwanww• awn. of the in.eatoa of tow EinFerat of tip. Preach to fitaarta war a• rerun lac reduciai out arteauteata, but that it vas LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 80, 1859. the lea of the screamer to ostler to pat oar Mime" =diary end earl, on as Akar footing. Be related, se ear gamest against Menem our exertions, • dialogue between the Emperor of the French end • distiordrid pars, width had been reported to him, en the rubjest of the Freak navy. Mr. Lindeey, Lord Leveled, gad Lord Ashley, depreciated any reredos of oar navy. Lord PLUM/MON—Air, my bon. sad learned isised the memberlier Car will antereesti why I did not weer his quer* et She mement. I saw there was mother rem I Ilea on the payer le be pat le me, and I thought It batter to wait as I earl may speak mon hip hon. sad leaned friend silted ear whether the Sovereign of the Ranee Seam hes Badly raper or drier the position of President over the Confederate ewes of Italy; and whether, Ia the ever of the nowerelse Pontiff ateepties that office, It Is ironed on the pert of bee Ilajente severament to adopt offeateell saps fa establishing dined apron* rarities wilt the Court of Rome. As to she deed leesties, I really ma not competent to give en wawa became se yet me scalederation has been tarmad. eed we are not to wok a position with the Pope r would induce Itim to she as ea riiinatioa es to what his Intention may I be. I email refer sag boa. end keened bier to the km end lower mamba tar Deader, who la mai more Neely to be is rte saddens of his Rollases. art, the soar 1 easedes, whirr In the rest ef the coredaretka we m waded to r eddielt diplomats rellerms with the Pope es the heed of it ; Veer • eadedersden wee estabilehed we word, me reit, Mee diplematie Menem with the diet whir nerd iim ft, rim lave diplomas erre' with the Om.= filderedea. Oar reptertise is incredeled Sr • the diet ger ladeperent o f fs say diplomatic Me lees as deny hone with t he seredine . wee elm , Mfrs the amiliersifor It may be se weiL pee- Imps, rid I err! ma • what l the kw with ti dlpletwatio ..- imi • with the Pups. It whi be reg m lad re recede air of the bore that some years ego en act wee pissed ratting her Majesty to tour tatudiplamtio relations with the Pope. In the upper hoar • dear was issertml, prevendeg her Majesty from receiving me eccirmtie es his repesentrive • the roar Raabe dam to consider this es • bar to the esiabliMmeat of diplomatic alarm with the genet of Great Reiter The governmeet of Pamir wide' is • protestant marry; and of Bar" when is sorcerer lie, decline to naive at their ere% say alders* as npresentative of the Pops. Ido not know the reseen, Ire dm it is the law or orenries, tat odd ease is the park* Gm Win part, sad I confess I do act Bade soul mitt the Pop should maks • dinned= between Reelead on me bead, end Ramie re sadla Presets ea the Other, sad should re gales as te peal a w before he meld de far es rid be doss for them. It is true he does not semi repressauulme te Barka or tie Petersham ; yet he Neer, their rearm udives et Rome. With agar le the pastime of W hasoarable reastur fur Wan Norf. Ili„, I might simply aster roped with saying at oh or that the rawer to hie gseelioa mar doper ea a rest Arley of dr cammenees, wake In dee time, sod at the proper moment, It will be the rh*. of the go mmer to take ire dermas residersties. (Haw, boar.) The hoe. retlemea 'SW the First Lord al the Trearary whether there is say letelara on the part of her lielesty's government to redacts the seed anneinent of the senatry. If I were to say that we her he iaasathaa ee depart from the emmares papered by err rear °more, sad whir we have adopted, that mopld be a sail civet anewer. As to sae ground dellifbich the her geatlema has pat his qatedoe—va., in itorequeoce of atfeeteattue brief base reteived that the Jtuipseor of the Preach intends to make • reduction in hid real and mili tary establabeitter and his setrumpere that thiiinformailea may be met by a correepedine cheer on our. pert, I might pit it to the hon. gentleman that although each informal= may afford bat end °tar bon. martin • . film ground far puttieg firmed their minim, it would he somewhat proms. tare to expect the goverowent—(hear, heler)—to glee say informatioe as to what course they may think it ter ditty le adopt is comegsesca of en erect' which has not r ia happened, eml of which informative bee sly received teas it is intended to take pia.. I her no heeketion in recurring In the principle width I em W been ► lad down, the demur be for the goverameat of this marry aim Into say vasty with tartlet country for the MS don of our •14 sad waiter, eseriklurre is order pre oar asabilehreer apse • bring to be detereiltied by the arratedemonfle whirl saarbear meats y might thialt at to make (Mew, hear.) If tree were bet two pewees in the world—if you had bat Resler end Fire-I,elsoold my tbakivaa then is word be la errieseed we oar not eater rte. Norse the be rate of Regime/ end Franca She position which they hove te mar teia, arm sate* driver, rat no weithenstkal aronsement NW be entered Into that one country sherd mike a 'educates Amply beaus the other dad se. Bat the rase will remelber that there are othrparties to be cos ✓edered buries Begrad end Preece. There re wren with whom we Rave SMS, I hap shah mattes. to have, &Medi) , relations, bat with whom thoec relations might elder. Hance our naval and military armaments most depend ace up ,n any foreign power, but upon teat which the repos sable government of the day may from time to time consider tote rosseary for re safety of the country. Sir, I can say no more than that. Of ohm, the duty of the government ii while on the one hand it propose, to earthman the ester ii.brente which it ooescientimely beas to be nereerity for the public safety, on the other hand sot to ranee false alanns or to burden the cora, to a water extent than se:emery. With regard to the question pat by the hon. gentleman, I et informed that the report to which he alludes will be placed before peelbuieset ten few cloys. war doled set la MOM, sad the intake was now left se ==ldever. (Hear. bear.) He had • few paps I as him to which be wished to call the =Motion of the kiss., fad heat which they would me the manner in I Meek the educe of oar amend' sad Sipping was to he I provided fee. The nest of Domport, when completed, was ealinaled at 446,0001. ; this year we voted 86,0501., so Sat the seek would take four yeses to templets (Hear, hear.) beidentiose of D.iver were estimated at 311,0001., and this hewing bees only 26,0001. voted, to complete the works I soda Mee seemly men pars. (Hear, hers.) Tke Millinery defames were set down at 200,0001., end this per . terb Seed 15,0001., so that these leeks would take ao Ilse I Um tube years before they were finished. (Hear, bear.) Neat, Sere were Pembroke Dockyard and Milford Haim de- I which 190,0001. we the esteemed expense ; but, the amounts of this year, ail or seven years would he antemy for their ootopletiou. Portsmouth, they were UK WOW rest 400,0001. to make It este : this year they had wita 66.0001., so that it would take about five years to ' met em the estimate. Then there woe &hey lines ' for i Ida* Sic yes May bed voted 06,0001. It would take three and • half years to finish. For the Boehm limes • hed bed • supplementary Me of 80,0001., whilst are oceMag to the eseheate ft would take atm years at Mat rote I elf eapaffitere st mike them .client. (Hear, Mex.) &ekes Bar WOO seldom at 67.0001., and if they voted se amuck per Ma they had given le the prune lelle dila MIX pare malt net me It properly defeadoe &a the next eew , wawa, Wort extrooresery me of all, Numb that of Pert lark (Rear, boar) The Beerstery Of Male hid tell there ' Mw lespertant Portland see (Hear hear.) He (Mr. ' ilemme) had sever heard • Meier enitemeat then that of the 'islet komeable 'enthuse. The :Eihmourable • Vet cer and s mi dia R e sew jehsee I ' ime. (Met, hear.) Me rover the right ham gm 1 ad* bed teld them that the work could now be Mae mat eariamdssily, sad he trended that Mau lialideed it would maim she harbour wholly insregeible. (He= Mar) fist thin, waseedisse to the estimates of ebb year, it would take twenty-use years to oompiees the Ohm* of Portland. ' (Hess ham) Bat there were besides other works, such as W einamerela arbours, which meld take sows pare is emplute, whilst Males and Otbraltett would main at WA I foes years to finish them at the present rest M ye- I tits the gamy. He had taken these cares from tbe sMh metes, but ohm were others not In the erdesatee kr whc ' sums sat soma be taken. For instance, there we Wool- , wick, the armoury of &skate with frees tea ' to dew minim' meth of public property always will= Its teal% sad Wooleritob, he we Informed, wholly &dam ' loam (Heer lam.) Three were still other works, all whisk had Ma wetland by perliment but for aces of whisk hod any owe as yes ban whim If Mem weeds were ' swessmaty, they were argot; est if Shy wee argue they oegla to be completed et oece. His attest mile pat all our deemem Ina state et efficiency, and is ould be milled out ' beet by the royal camaketes whisk bedlam been sppointed. He Melted hie be. sad pliant Mend der having obtaieml that commission, sad he expected the beet results from its appointment. Its report would be meet valuable; its seem mentlationa mast be tarried out, and may mast be given =grudgingly for the poops*. (Hoer, bear.) The safety of England was too poises a thing to be treated as • qualm of sommy. Too many thanks could not be given to goadawes oppoeite for the turbots they bad made during theater= at Office to restore it. (Cheers.) No g orernottut dammed a moment's forbearance that did not meow in tub footstep.. (Opposition sheen.) It was now admitted that the navy of France was no longer to be taken as • steadied by vetch to regulate the strength of one own, se even the Freeek had declared that ours should be equal to thus of Frame and Russ combined. They had been told that we were making emperimits with iron ships. From bed completed Me espetionente and her ships were at this moment afloat. They had been told that we were makieg pregrem with ear riled cams. France bed need canon ia ell her shipe red gunboats. (Her, heir.) She bad, is foe, mate sops ready than we had, and could blockade ships in our ports, even if our deism were not so incomes, as ie permit of ber deetroyieg them in harbour. If once the Channel were tabu from se, England w ould become at one peel of the swishod of the wo and a French army mad come to it as readily as it aald to the Alps or the Shim Booed. seek • (WOWe be aver attempted, they =rely apes .14 that the Pim& Farmer would every soldier foe Whale he elooM nest me Means - d treaspart. They Wald Mies vita the Collacionleen that they weee one vaa Swims bops, IS three weeks Mks theloader. woad be mai er Leaden wieuhl be tam. it would not latia wow bet a writhe, snake seadenses would be see gnat sir : ' meat of he mum It might not happen now, per la 20 Pees ; bas 1111 gam, slthistilt • lag spate Is their fedivi *owl won% was se nothing in the life of a make and whether now en hoossams should have whiniest • Saws to ISM t et Smeffiet army or volunteer/. (Hear, hem.) Could any arsey that we had raker at to prosiest =meat P hoer.) There had recently boa • popular movement in favour of the raising of volonterre, and the geese' favour with white it was received showed that the people were alive to the danger in which the nation was placed. But Mese mimeo= bad received nay • @bill ing support from the proem gemernment. 8e mach so that people said, .• If we bed so army or navy, nor red-tape, the national spirit wield be snakiest to provide for the defence of the coal:dry." But certain peens seemed to think It Moot better that Elegised should be conquered than that say encouragentest shoal.] be given to such an inuovstios ▪ esteblished rules. They knew that in 1803 we had 400,0.00 voluateers, sad that yet we thanked Providence tbat We bad the channel Mu to dusted ea. (Hear, Mar.) Now semen re Cold tbat the valuation meld sot beamed becaus • Belgian house had Mod a tellies advisee on an order for 40,000 rift -s. lie tested he should hove fres the minister sestradetkin Otherness tket welted been deprived .140,000 Aka In commuseceof a diereses dal:pence in the pries la See ammeters what wee the ..duct that they ought perm P It wee, to pat Busload mare' loped the teach of academe (Hear.) He bad we the Emperor of the Fromm ; he never could forgot that that sovereign found France in • stare of anarelay, and that ha had Weed the material glory, the materiel power, and the Impious sad prosperity of the people, sad for this they admired, resume, Meowed, end obeyed him. Between the ruler end the rated, • pow, rid sovereign and a noble and gallant people, there had .risen true and perfect aooord. Ike internal administration of France was cone of uor busies', but although we had no eat to meddle with that, we were justified In watching the foreign policy of the Emperor, and see that while he pewees:el the Meow of brenee be did nothing to tarnish oars. And when he was asked why ha thought that at some fate» tuna we might be at war with Francs—why be insulted the Emperor by suspecting that he would at some time or other invade this country, he meet reply, what ever body in the Mau silo behoved, teat he beloved la the posibility of emir with Franco became the Emperor bicoself believed In it, as was evident from the preparations he was cooking; and he believed in the possibility of an Sweats beast= every own In that house believed that that would necesoardy be coo of the lint mope is each a war. No was it say insult to the Emperor of the Fresh to believe la the poseibility of whet he tells, you h posit*. No man me over Mood to a throes we Mut *akin more pries to advertise to the world what he believed to be hie furore destiny than the Emperor of the French. He wee a man of thought before he was en Emperor, sad alter outdoing ripe are, he gave to the world in works of deep thought and feeling a programme of his thoughts and his policy, and whenever be wrote said spoke, whether is an exile In London. a prisoner in the fortress of Han, or whether he was appetites for life before the pone of Fram e be on all =Mona gave evidenos of being • man of great purple, and inflexible will ; and whether it we the dream of the exile, the prayer of the captive or the apptel of the candidate for power, all his ospiratione sad &skis painted to one day of national retribution, and re- • rod me word which no Frenchman, he said, could spook without wooden. Consistently with that fading be had Ind Ws ma with the belief that he sad they had or ere assahia still unfulfilled, until, by one great sad enterprise they had Mewed the stains of France's hurntliatioes and moat etopendem national disuse (Oh, oh.) Hs (Mr. Haremm) dui not say this in disparage- I meet of that illes roue mice who could nut surely be offended at their accepting as true whet be bed avowed. Bat hie hoe. friend who interrupted bin would say perhspe that this was the old story; bat did his hon. friend Mow that' thou works had recently teen reproduced in France, that they had bees revised, reprised, and pablisbed under the authority atlas &mese bit:mole and that they were middy circulated and largely reed ansopet the French people? And what was the Sleet they produced on the minds of those people? They said, We regard them as an iodiestion of the policy of the Emperor.' . To them they ware • key to Memo what otberwhe would be =intelligible— vie , the reason for those mat naval and military preparations aback Frame was waking. lie would not refer to what befell to be a notorious Mee but of which the ministers of tie crows must nrcemartly be better interned than he could he, viz., that ever oleos the pesos of Viltanues, so for from the mtivity is the Fmach dockyards and creenata decreseim, they had been, up to the asst twenty-four hours, very tome on the itierem. (Hear.) Yesterday, however, the noble lord (J. Rumeell) Did the home of an iumouncement just niede in the Hesitate, that orders had been given for • re daction of anamones. No one would wish so dimioi.ll the importmee of that announcement; but if Engl an d sad . and Nines woe beak eras • war " been otitis; large preparations ender the Ides that we arm* menaced, and that war was in immediate prospect, this an Intimation that a reduction was tottered in the military form of France might be of great consequence to this ones by. But what he would Impress upon the bore lied the owastry was, that the force of Treace was et the eessmmeminat math above what was for her Pm* tawnialoneat, and whatovw might to dons e 7 dwoiin de venurnik, theta was a adshasak of power below which the =lLeft never to allow bar esenwess **noes to la tom Ordinal puss, is the aver-evableasa drew we bad allowed oar power 1 lases sa below fiat minimum. They were far Miser whet was meneary Fw • peace establiehmene, and whoa we loolsot hark to the Ihnis that the mutiny broke oat fa bulk, bow weak ws wen, delheadno, sad how halplins we ware eat UM% CHURCH RATES. Lord J. lllANlfilifi — stid k 7rse — de:Msble to ksow lOW me proposed le ks done by the government on the subject of Murat rem. — BM C. LEWIS saM that all which the government could do was to gme peetudenco, so far so possible, to all matters which moat be disposed of before the and of the session. Ate later perked. Mr. BOLDER° asked whether, if the Church Rats Bill were brought on at a late hour, the Bose fietvetary would mom the antentmeet which st ood on the paper in his mme. The hos. member was proomdiag I. &moss that amend ment when he WO is to order try the SPEAKER. Mr. M. GIBSON said that ha believed his right hon. friend the Sem...lvry of State for the Home Deputtuent would move his amendment Nan opportunity offered. He concurred with the hon. gestimorn la the toespedieney, es • moral rule, of bunging on Important questions lets at sight. (Beer.) THE ROCKY NOUN TAINS. Mr. CAIHD Mid the Under-Sectretary of State for the Colones whether any tow lastroction were eat to Captain Palliser on neefpt of ine repot of Ottoble 7, 1868, in reward to his further exploration along the Angrier bounden line and to the Rocky Mountains ; and whether Captain Palli ser' a journal bwl been received sad would be priated. He said that Captain Pathan had discovered a emery Mends the I range of those moant►tas which woe mean tern* sad which promised to opera up a esluable tract of land for the puapaas of this country. Thee explorations had not been envied so far as they would have been, on secant of the want of fonds. Now he trusted that no Helm, of petty economy world be allowed to stead in the way of further exploratiotar. Mr. ELLICE rid that no new.diseoverita bed been made by Captain Palliest., sod he honed that no neon money would be waned on t►. subject. Mr. C. PORTESCH it would not enter Into the points which this queen= might gme ries to. He would nears the horses Alt the gourmet-in wooed not expend the money of this country an Moon which were destitu•e of Wowed,. (Seer, hear.) The report to width the hen. gentleman re ferred wee maned in January lan, sad at that time a small nun oely was asked by Captain Palliser, and that ►mount had been sent to hire. Is answer to the question of the boa. member be could only .rate that everything received Irma Captain Palliser had beta petli•hed. RIFLED GUNS. Mr. KONSILL e7llledtWatienifje of the house to the Got that a saleable levention in tided guns had been leads by Mr. B. &lien. and that repeated trials of guns rifled upon that plan bad been toads at Sallsbtuy and elsewhere. The great advantage of t►e plan consisted in its leaking a bore °tasty 1-16th of en inch ta the interior of the gam. whereby no injury wee done to its strength. He wined to know whether in the rids guns which wets being We Mr. Brideu's invention had been used. _ Kr. 8. HERBERT mid that many ingenious plans bad bees submitted to the governmeat for rifling gnus, sad ant,ngst them was that of Mr. Briden. Them Om wen now the subject of experiment and inquiry, and until them xperignents were ooneinded, there would of necessity be so answer to his right bee. friend's quitatios. Tias isohonthat lbs hones at its rising odjottro to Mon day woo thou wood to. THE NATIONAL DEFENCES. Os the memos for going tato committee of ►upply. )d.. IIORSMAN, is n•ing to call ties aitention of the house to our national defamer, thought that what bed already taken place showed that no apology was due from Wm. The house had just bees celled us by the government to maks • large lamer. to the taxes of the year, for the pampas of edeumg to the oatmeal defamer. They were to meat ma emersion. Mudge le • 'Sue of profound puts; they were to double their expaditure at a moment when they were engaged to no war. It we evident that them enor mous estimate were the result of some peat or euppesed t•eoesdty—of some real or irnarriptry danger. The quatiun wee, what wee that danger ? There we a plat em width inquiry upon wadi • subj-et became a duty wM p•rilamsst —e time at which say thing like reserve or ooncealmest be come inimical to the beet intercom of the country. He was sot schemed to soy that bs we one of than who had shared very I iqdy is the apprehension which the public had expmased, sod Ittihad felt grateful to the pram for the position which it had 'ekes. H. bad bad the good fortune to beton to • venerable peer, who had reviser(' our pmitios in title matter, asd b. meet venture to ray that he, f .r one, thanked that peer for the mote/sent which he mods. Now he would ark this question —to whet did 'lves speeches end writing• apply ? It we sot her of Proses which they exhibited, but wont of ass!• teases la our owe dm:enemata la Sartiesd. Is the eleventh lief, we wee wily attempting to retrieve Met time by a sales of half messes. Our amemithe we found unprotected, and ear •he left without shelter in came of war. The now Inpunai so perils in Vain mph, and prof dios (Stamped id. AdditiceaL) [TWOPENCE. utterly at the mercy, es we should have been, of any power that might have chosen to tavola us, be could scarcely be sufficiently thaaktul Chet ft never mowed into the heed of any greet military nation to do so. We had for may years been going so upon this den =system of redaction until our power of was reduced very tar below to. minimum lost, ad ell be would urge upon the goverment and she wag to raise It up to that minimum point below which it eaglet never to have been allowed to fail, so so to place be yond the reach of danger whatever cow ingeec7 might arise. He knew that there were friends of his in the home who thought that all these forebodings deserved but little attention. (Hear, hear.) lie respected sad honoured the motives and the prlocipice of them gentlemen who belonged to what was aided the pesos party, but while they on the one hand honestly ad morcientiouely, sad he mold odd usefully and velaably to the country, followed out their vocatioe, he on the other heed a non orentiously thought that if their views wenn athriell beyond a certain practical point, they were the country. (Hear, hear.) Thanking=for their attention he binged to move that the mom of completing the necessary works of national defence, projected or already in proves, should be met by a Wed eyed ally provided for that porpoise, and independent of the annual mesa of wham. nt. Mr. 8. HilithEßT had, In common with the met of the beam keened with great admiration to the able and elo = cash of througi l i ti t l e ri . gl o t le ho o n i l ines ; d, end It and did be venture noe . to teeth upon the delicate ground which his hoe. friend had trodden, It was because he did not with to convert what ought to be a debate on what should be the beefs of oar peace es'abilelmnt Mier a die:minim on foreign pelhp, Midi • Ileka emir an ellorainer, tactillit&M isfekr lettentam of • great mammies. He the he the =griee the government hat ban meek& If Word could be wed, • Mbar Is she de fame which they were etzeogibefelem sod they were folloeing the legielesele" peseytr i t2 wee the true policy of • OM asassaldal =e. (Hear, hear.) We hate skein& dosilleas. end ve nine. Peace was wit MM rarity—ft Was the snores Moor prosperity, and matte poillsy Islet alepari tithe hem of government under which ele bad the begmblese to llm. If he agonised the qeeetion of wee themes It was sot with a view to show Met porn we might be Mk te make them any ther bee raker se show what were the mums of mea leafiegmeeleen aid keel ( the country fa a stets of ma rib% le feedfiested limes - when the *Hs of Ile country was wry mime from what it was now. It wee curious to fallen In litsary of our weeknese in point of delblien After the geed war, wrien we, like the other nations of Harms, were ashausted by the efforts we had made, we believed, sad Ramp bettered, in perpetual penes—that war would never egad' etwur —we lived on our character, and neglected ▪ meednee the omens necemary for oar proper oriesellp; and when at lest moved to the danger of our theisketind the becemity of making efforts to rodeos it, egkeedid the, ofrantry go with the government of the day, Mad do bows won hem them any extraordinary mer lins. ILO tenembieed when the connotation w.e appointed to mean the ethelition of our dockyards, and woen the TWO M. tflielleiet ote and kneed were the object of theta be Imes became they eadeavoured to erect at Hempen a Imp establishment foe the conatraction of the stemesey. Toe house and the committee considered that arthsit extravagant and tinnecessuy ; yet, so far fent a aving been extravagant and unnewassry, it had boa found insufficient, and had since been greatly enlarged. He slated this to show that even when public opinion was adverse to incurring large expenses for purposes of dekko, he was not one ot tom who remained satisfied with things as they were. For a long time after that apathy and Igno rance prevailed open this subject. We allowed oar soldier" to perish, partly because we would not go to the expiates of housing them, and portly because we treated as q the mica that men ought to have fresh abut breather= now se to the fonieratione of which Us right him. ?need bed spoken. The other night there was • debate opts the question of appointing a commirsioa to inquire into the state of oar fortifications, and be was glad of the Me Minh was then sense to, Mae. muck as it involved the thometty of more rapidly incressiag our defences ; end that there should be a farther inquiry by competent pawns. before ay larger expeadthent ma entered into for that purpose. He was gied, awn that yolk, to clod his view maolinee be by en great an authority as the hen. and gallant general the mambas far Wrsitsineter. He heed set, es baking ate punkin of importance, and at the same tline of greet detail, attempted to per an opinion at once; bat when his mied was made up ris to the necessity et ems Mies, her made to the government exactly the ems pro pos' which wee afterwards brought formed in the home by the hen end lent genera (kr De L. Evms) —thear, la "int, though are if the memo of empfeblegie, seeds the rose proposal whisk Me right hoe. Mead had made. He was mtithed that fn a country Wm England, which never had, without great effort and emotive, mimed • large army, and never amid, they wore bound to take an that every means by which the service of the army, • small as it was could be m.de more Of wciow, should be framediately anipted. We .hold have the bast arms and the best eqtripmente, the beet material of every tried, and se effort should be omitted to produce them. But mow throe efforts it sprered to him that, having greet dockyards and animals in which wera concentrated property of immeme value, end, what wan of still more eoeseqnence, the meow of reproducing oar mad time power there ought to be some meths of 'routing their delenee when men's Beth and blood were not sakcient. (Hear, hen.) True, the cost of fortilloationa was mot moot, and his right hoe. friend was not exaggerating when he and that in carrytog out these worm the government were pro- ceeding by driblets. But the driblets they took for forti fications this year amounted to 4(10,0001. But let him ark what, alter all, we. the comporative cost of thin, fortifications , as epithet sa sem. A. email addition of 26,000 men to the army would coot 760,0001. a year, and if there Wile to be bursas, th e total cost would be MAK But If 6,000,0Dt - 1. was spigot hi fattiflcations the amok "barge taking it at 6 per cent. bstetett, would be rely 800.0001. Thee it was to be borne in mind that the se would die, and the powder and shot would be Mora away—. the rifle wore eat, sad everything connected with the army decayed. But if we had • weli.conaidered gown of defence by math of fortificetione. it remitted aot only during oar lives but for peaterity. But if it we t scenery to beep the entry in an efficient state for the purpose of national defence, it wee more neoeaeary to keep the navy to. Oar animals were the reproducing power oi the state as terattled the navy. Without going further into detail he should like, if the bongo would allow him, to toll them whet the amounts were which had been voted an 4 now stood upon the estimates for the past year. At Portsmouth, taking the have and form which hie right hon. flitted hod mentioned, he would find that, irrespective of the mime already voted, 400,0001. would be aseaseary to complete the defoom at Portsmouth, which bad already been explained to parliament. And in addition time were the defences at Spitiread, for which nothing had bees voted. With regard to Plymouth there was 335,0001. es Mourn standing in the estimate for carrying out the works Mee; that 336,0001. would Dot put Plymouth in a state of complete and permanent defence. And thin there was Fem. broke Chatham, the Thames, snit other places His right hon. ;fiend had referee to Woolwich, and mid that toe state saint which he (Mr. 8. Herbert) made the other night was open cad frank upon that subject. He thought it picot that a minister, in giving any explanation to the hops., emend be frank, sad It was la the epirit of frankness that he elated that Woolwich was totally undefended. The Thames wee partially defended by fortifications ; it might • meth stronger, and reqdred to be; but Woolwich was totally undefended again.' • land fem. He was aware that some people thought Woolwich ought not to be defended, and that the tree pMicy was to break up Woolwich and have a number of small establishments la different places, and not to have the whole of our reproducing power concentrated in one arsenal. That also was a question he was anxious to have thoroughly dimmed and considered. His right hon. freed asked what mourity had they that there Inge ems would be exposited on these works it voted, and theright hoe. baronet said the other night I don't Mow the system of basher on which you proceed. You have mosey voted f .r =Oobjects and you do sot spend it. It often happens n do not spend la the year the money voted." la rail. ways, Whim there was no mentos of voting, there was not much difficulty, for if the looney was not spent at the time it was afterwards. But many things interfered to delay the mete in connexion with fortifications. A frost would put • Mop to earthworks ; and en intimetke had been made to him yerterday that the strike in esetain trade. counseled with holding and engineering might occmion delay to some of the weeks in program, tor which looney bed been take in the estimates for the present yen. After be bad spoken the other night, and whin he had no oppor tunity et coon. ring, it was and that the committee ought to have a wider field of inquiry. He wanted an inquiry into a specific subject, and upon that rubject he courted advice from men capable of giving it. If the told was widened eo es to inquire how armies ehoold be posted. and other wetter', they would delay it. Bat be could amens the he. baronet he had not neglected these other matter* to which Whitton had been mad.. His predecessor had appointed a oommervion consisting of several officers to collider whet steps should be taken in case of the outbreak ei war. That commission, cousiating of emend eminent adhere, bed dram up • very detailed report which was in Weir kends, and tepee which he was seeing. He was the taking mesas so afford to young officers a tborourth knowledge of the Omflminik the country, and may bad hen examined as to the but Means of defence—not because he expected hevestos to morrow, but that we might take precaution for a time. The great question was how to establish the brio el ▪ sound pesos establisbment. That we. a monk% •t MOM mite. Look et the army estimate, and the themes. sum mnd. If othiag was more mestislastem, thet with se muck mosey expended go hole ea sera war And now, let him anew, r en thaerneks of Me hen. IE hied that he (Itr. 8. Henan) la es amid • contract. The ink lateehreme which he bad mode we to berme tbei apply of the Enfield Him from 1,600 to 1,000 a week, and by a Might addition to the c worsot rice to seam a superior Wick. (Rear.) The late gvegament sot a umber of die tininiabot oaken to surrey and report spots the TIMM fors is the Meditetrusean. That report had been 1111011101/1 and wits now bring acted upon, Lad he wee glad to my that it showed that no additional force was mtesaary for the defame of those forts, and that the only cheeps requisite were for the simplification of their arommente. The government wire seeding out helm inns to it.. them ; bet nothing could be more absurd than to suppose that any attack upon Gibraltar or Malta could be mousesful In their present state. With regard to animates. of the testier annmast be remembered th at we had regiments coming h. from India, sad if an increase were made, to be hemafter reduced, the result would be only to destroy she efficiency of the men and add to the list of Mlf-poy Wherry. What he limited wait that the home should come to some better conclusion for the permanent establishment of tinarmy, instead of I wildly calling for augmentations at the time, and as wildly demanding large reductions at another. In sddition to the creation of nine we had our great ord nance to renew. In a eery short time a great part of oar 'hips of war would be armed with rifted gunk and In con- Delloll with every new description of arm you had to supply a new form of ammunition, which, supplied on a great scale, wee vary costly. These Hinge It was which mote our esti mates so large while our army was so email. Improvement sad ohmage were rapidly going on, and we must keep up with them ; and he was abide that be did not see much change of a deoresse ef the cotheatse for the produerion and reproduction at meth He maid say that the feettheadoes which had bees theafeed ear aught to be dash with es tinkly as poemilds end he the making provides he teat porpoise. Hie right hies. irked said this with or without a testellesida you could sot reeled on - his or any other plea elides yea had lthe peellethellestrithisser any with ne dock a tad, bat whin it the lard' hem the neesiethe wind ought to be dons then it same bit dens at mica Nevertheleer, end pood les tie the *ark' were still going ow; end they might are be with ma fast as the literality of parlia ment wail slum, sod the government was doing that. He bad nemally said as emieent engineer ethos if be was skis 'three hithebe, and was Owed In On position of a thstrather kr ethilthey, could he do tooth than was being thee see; sled he espYd test If lie worked at such a rate se le beetle to pt tlssieotry in a partial Mate of demo) in a year, the said not be completed ander three years ; that be amid net amplete theme this year at all, as it was seesaw, iesh sod organise lenge bodies of workmen, end test the best . pert et the waling seems was gone by. &via if, se One was being lost by the appointment of the theathildies, tindthe gevennteet would gate mach with the peels Vali intithlry was satisfied that the ameemery - . works teeth talc adttemod. In the respect the mike of he right the. timed wen premature. Hie right bon. heed acknow ledged that the tippet's. meat of the ommeisdon was a rood - thing, bet until it made he report it would to ask parliament for xpeoce. He (Mr. 'Herbert) io objected to some of the words 14 the motion, asiedly, that the neceseary works "should be mat by a feed specially provided for that purpose, mid independent of the annul votes of perbareent: lie we nut sure that We lest sentence was necearery with reference to any well ethelthrei plea for works of defame, bet he was sure that if yen wished parliament to go along with you in a matter of shielded, you must have their sanction for every step to yaw proceedings. He objected to any plan which profaned to take a large gam ken parliament when you could conciliate their congde oar and op-operation by raking for what you treated as the steps you took required. He had thus endea voured se shortly as he could to observe upon the matement of hie right hon. friend. If he said one word it was In reference to what his right bon. friend bad remarked with regain to volunteer troop., whom he thought had been dinottregingly treated and looked upon sea pkodan force. Wherever had been done with regard to rainwear saps, might be said to have been a creation of the tote govern ment. He did not intend to caw any reflection on the late government, but still be mint lay that he thought that the present government had given wearer enconagenentto vo lunteer corps than the late admtnismstiou ; and of those fa rooks of formation be hoped some day to ere sevanal very efficient battalions. it had never occurred to him to ealmider the volunteer movement es a plebeian move meat; on the °gateau, he had before now maid that he thought It a misfortune for Rutland that whiter the upper elan wee pommel of a military spirit, and that whilst the lower clue also wane influenced by a military @pint, it was not go with the middle elms, end that what he wanted to see was, In case of their being called on for the deletes of the country, the some spirit evinced by all cleans. Hebb& anted unreservedly his opinions on this subject, and he had eedeavoured to show that the government were zest going to sleep is the matter, and that from tee moment he entered on the onerous, difficult, and respeesible office which he held he bed turned his wthation le this gumlike. The commission which had been agreed to wand set to work temeedlately, and all he could soy ems Mat me nost as they made their report the govern ment would give their salwas attention to in subject-mat ter, end were about to deal with it not in a epirit of shelving, but in a spirit, be hoped, of rapid and immediate so f bon. (Hear, hear.) Sir F. BM . Horeman's motion prema ture before t completed it. inquiries. Sir C. N It upon the defective manning of our navy, w ted te the minuanagentent of the Admiralty, ly m end navy he insisted that there would ' to waste money upon tortifka now. Mr. COBDEN, who was loudly called for, said he could not pretend to throw soy light on the technical questions at Wave. But he observed that this matter had now arrived at • sage where the old appliances end remedies were et no use. We had voted this year 261 million sterling for oar defence., of which 121 m'llions were for our navy. Together we bad mad for oar defence. twice as reach this year as voted h the year when he first entered that house. sad three times isnot& this year ter our navy alone as was voted Ps 1836, when Sir Robot Peel and the Duke of Welllngtos were at Um he ad of affairs. And now his right hon. friend (Mr. Homenan) came forward and said that we had not yet a minimum of au establishment, sod that we mast eat every public and private dockyard at work to in emaseit. It was quite evident, theorists, that we could sot, by voting any amount of money sod going on la the SUM oat's, bring ourselves into . satisfactory posidoa. He (Mr. Cobden) would therefor* suggest whether them might not be mother view of the gurottee—whether gentlemen in • state of panic and alarm noght not have exaggerateal the ease, and fallen into some hallaciaatioas shoat th e danger ituotieding over at—whetter they had not altogsthe mistaken the evil with which they had to Now, he had been for some tune past out the reach of Blue books, but two days ago stumbled by accident on a document originally pr pored for the informatioa of our government, which gave a description of the oomparative Awes of the English and French navies. He confessed that be bad read that paper at tint with some incredulity; sad if be had not within his own recollection an incident which occurred seven year. ego, he would not now venture to quote the statistics of that document, after what we bed heard mid of the awful prepa rations which bad been made in Francs. The incident he alluded to was this. Seven years ago, in 1862, when the panic of a Franck levasioa raged at much se it did liner, if not more, he laid a wager with a general attar, who bed aver Pule* been paying tea guineas • year to the Manchester Infirmary as a penalty for his rash adherence to an assocuttion which he (Mr. Cobden) had ;tee tered to call in gwettou apron this subject. To decide that controversy, be (. Cobden) applied to the French govern ment for information, and got a statement of the naval budget of Frame for that year, which ha plaited In the Mode of several gentlemen hayloft the control of influential organs of public opinion, and one of those gentlemen, who was now sitting in the House of Commons, and who was the proprietor of • great j)arnal in the North of England, made use of that information honertly to stem the torrent of alarm and ap preheneion which them prevailed. Be remembered also that hie hon. friend the member for Dumfries wrote to the French Minister of Marine, M. Decor, whom reply wee, .1a one to year newepayers accusing us of menag naval preparations, I will crate that 1 have not edded a boat to our marine, or • gun to the armament of our ships." Re membering those tnoidrnts, he would venture to quote the document which belied mentioned, in reply to hie right bons friend below him who now spoke of the French as having made" emetic preparations for the Weston of a country watch was a great naval power." Now what did Hite document show ? The only salutary tamtatent foe such • fever se now affected many pawn* in and oat of that hones wee • ceti investigation of the facts of the case. He had had an 0 ppo. wally of reading over this statement with the aid of • few friends who were well acquainted with steatite' mat ure. He found that is this report, pabbaked by oar own government, having been drawn up confidentially for their information by a committee appointed for the purpose, there was • compartments! the Frame and English navies, showing what they were is 1862, when the. awful panic prevailed before, sad what they wets ha 1868. Now HU» hems would be a little calm, ha (Mr. Cobdea) eit ' ould emu the remits of Hutt *napoleon. It ma derided that t he Preach bed a show of enpariority in steam frigates, whilst we bad • ommeidereble sameterity in screw be;ttle ships. (No. no.) In line-of.battle shine, built and building. as sePtto" the French, built end baildieg, we had • euperiarl7. -118 believed we tied ten liumrd-battle ships more than the ' , reach. without including the blockehipe, which, he wee told, went serviceable. In the number of frigate*, the Preach navy wee somewhat superior to the English, but there was the rest 01 oar navy, not to be left out of the computes! ! resisting of the corvettes and Pimp.. and these irearela which, egoording to the '" wisest pence, upon naval aff.irs be bad bees able to con sult, wealth. most eflctive of all. The Americana were building nothing bat corvettes. and they mid those were the vas disc Illam17 27 : 16".4 18 6 :8 " r mi th7 bad 296 sailing vesicle, shoe -I"43.o,..eawnwsb"ha e a res eere, in °a" it ead w.r ies . I N B.s 6 B w she , in had ll 4 s 4 ls, th i s teenage of 282 in that period. The French in 1852 had 122 war stemma, Sad ie la 1868 they peasereed 261 war Mamma showing an Mcree el but 142 spinet oar increase of 288. 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