The Express. — London, England, 1849-07-20 00:00:00

t mu•t say decidedly that he thought there was a larger enipcodittu• than WM aicetw, for good sod efficient govern ante. (Hear, hear.) Therefore, thinking. as he believed meat in a thought, that there must bee reduction of 'upset ho have so ohjs Miro to vote for the boo. Mena •:'s present motion. His hmourable friend, the Mimal . er ter Montrose, had alluded to the Civil L'et, was a delicate question, and much maunder- Stood. A 1 tree porthm of that list was Appropriated to the payment p lineal officers with whim the crown had lade to du. Parliament had imposed upon the croon the duty of disposing of the civil list in a particular way, in certain penis.. °eves, and it his hon. friend could show that these WS its a. :e not necessary, he would not be acting incon nistotalt with a desire to maintain the dignity and honour of the t rite , but merely acting on the principle u on which the parlament had previously dealt with than in desiring that 11.:.1P. places should be abolished. (Hear, hear.) If be een:d show that the present officers were not useful pnbliz Aileen, and that useful public servants might be paid est of thy tied list, instead of such officers es the master of the Dockhounds, be would be in no way trenching on the elmetitutionel principle. He (Hr. Gibson) was sore that every gentleman in the hoses would ha ready to affirm that there were needless Omsk estraysgant salaries, and optimal- Miry puhlie works going on. (Hear, hear.) There was no man who could conscientiously my that, ia the United Kingdom, there existed at the pr. a at time so se• diem places, no trevagent nilaries, no unnecessary works. (Hear, hear.) Valero a man was prepared to make that solema assertion, be could hare no objection to vote for the motion of the ben. sn-nab r for Surrey. (Hear, hear.) As to neeffien plane, he meld mention ono is a moment by which a melee of from 100 to 140,000 i. a-year might be effected. He mart the Vies-Royalty of Ireland, with its mockery of a court in Dublin. (Hair, hear.) He did net believe it woe in ■aardaace with the necessities of the times, that we shou'ri ki*p up a second court and establishment in Dublin, the communication being now so rapid, that the executive }onetime of government could be carried on just as well in this (-matey. (Hear, hear.) He knew the great talent and ability, and bad the highest respect fur the character of the mew Lord-Lietitenaat of Irelind. lie was only speaking et ta. system, sad be believed he was 'peaking the ointments which were shared by great stetermen and many imistwrs of that house when he advocated the abolition of the nth ~ There was another great establ'ahment which effected no practical good, and was a serious detriment to Oa tale of the eanntry by creating misunderstandings with foreign powers—la alluded to the slave trade squadron. Lori! R. GROSVENOR objected to the motion as giving the it e. that the government were not anxious.to reduce the tar ti.o of the country, with which he did not think them fairly tie irgeoble. Alter a pease, the noble lord then moved at ar am 'lomat, a resolution to the effect, that whereas no greater 'wont of tastati in ought to be allowed than was oaf cieat for the good and efficient government of the im. pire ; sod that it was expedient that certain inquiries should the Sere to ascertain whether some places might not be anie as lees, whether some salaries were not too high, whether slate of our establishmeics were not um M was the opinion of the house that • general super e i e n= mile shaeald 1.3 exercised by the government in ell depart menee, ia ceder that every reduction might lie made that mid he made without detriment to the public service. The mention having been put, Mr ROEBUCK objected to the anunda:entu an identical prepare!. e, "that whereas it mig be that tome plates were too w. h paid, therefore the house ought to to vigilant." He could undimmed the moti in of the hon. member for Surrey. CIVIsr it dietiredy and there was ma and so; that there was to , grcid an expenditure, and that it ought to be diminished. Surely the country was not in a position to go on se it had ...no of late years without any are of the expenditure. With ty ry pretence of saying money they were increasirg the tte die ex oe hurt without the ill, h oist :maul t Never sine- Erieland had been a kingdom did she stood in so secure • peition as now. The very distractions and divi sions whirls were going on easo.:gst neighbouring ratios* were to thee maestri a scum of strec.h. (Hear, hint.) It toss.therefore. an pretence, mer g e fantastic Idea that we meld riot reduce our establi.Lments. He feared there would he an chasm. for the better while that house was constituted es it se.w. It pre amts a most curious combination. He was sitting by accident on the opposition side of the house, and lie Nunn it absolutely cut in twain by proteetiosists doc trines. He could not sit here (the protectionist bench), and there (pantie' is Sir It. Pc el's seat ) without feel'eg that It wits liks positive and negative electricity. (Laughter.) The hones was, in tut, a nest of partisans, and th sy were impr. sod with no other feel. inns en in if they were engaged in a game of chi so, ...hick consisted of four piece., the eneeavour being to poi one of them in checkmate. He should be glad to had there w»i a checkmate, and that they might get a strong and I.e. nine goverment by it. He would even leave out the wind " popular" for the purpose of getting a strong gotetramcnt, who, when they knew they were right, would do right, Intl not like the present tovenimen", evincing a paltry eitation—a shrinking from their work, and hiding their heads, like ostriches in a bath, and fancying they vire. sled their bodies too. That had been his taper'. • rii of them for the lost few months, and he shone! vote for this motion, hoping that it would tend to fore.. at the present imbecile government and tome a stem g g iv, tomcat in. Lord J RUSSELL said that the hon. gentleman who male ii" motion concluded his speech by saying that he did not nr . or it a • vehicle for any charge spinet the govern ment. The Chancellor of the Exchequer said he accepted thr d but nothing would please the lino. member for fiht Pie Id, but to take the motion in a totally different seam —itoth:liz would satiety him but to consider it as • censure span th. gem romentend to conclude his remarks be saying he sever held such an exhibition of imbecility as the present over noses trefinted,and wi'hed to see a stror g government. With rs.ard to a strong government, the hon. gentleman must Olean it to consist of himself and no one else—(a laugh) —tor, as far as he could see, the boo. gentleman n did rn r vs of any opinions am pt those he himself enter taincd independently red honestle no doubt. He met r did happen to agree with any set of gentlemen in that house. Removing the motion, he (Lied J. Rumen) cwncd he did Sot chi k it contained a assure upon the government, but he thought .t rather odd as a resolution of the boom It said that large SUM were expended in supporting needless , xtravageot salaries, and unnecessary works and 'stab] eliments, thus uselessly adding to the taxation of the country. Surely, they, that house had not done its duty in the t resent series, and the effect of such a resolution must be, not • censure upon the present government, but upon the house itself. It was • sort of vote of repentance of their own c 'educe. The honAtrable member fir Sheffield ▪ i' deed, that it was • vote of censure, and justified his wes ihe so oa a moat extraordinary ground—namely en the Imola that Sir H. Parma moved a certain iresolui .11 in 1830, and that In 10i31, Lord Althorp pursued certain r oduct respecting the civil lilt He owned he mob, ~it pee how that could induce the ham to come to a vote of censure upon those who acted with him in 18.31. It was a meet strange ground to lay for a resolution in 1849. Bat the fact was totally different. It had been urged by the white party fee some years, and especially by Lord Brougham, that the including in the civil list • great many espeteer, besides the household and personal expences of the govairga, was very inconvenient in two weys—it Md to the maintenance, during the life of the ee welder of expanses which might be reduced, and in the seat place, it pave rise to the unfounded teitertion and representation that 900,0001. was expended on the dignity of the crows , whereas it.. than one - half that sumwas the amount that ought to have eons'ituted the civil list. It was urged by Lied Brospham, Sir H. Parr 11, sad others, and upon that greasd the house, by • mai +el' y , armed tOrefer the civil list to a select committee, and the Duke of Wellington's government resigned upon that re.olstion. There was therefore no reason for the prerint tootles upon the ground alleged by the ben. genCeenan, and rill less upon the facts of the nes. He believed, although we still have a large amount of taxation, that the consumers of this country, emweially the poorer clam* were tar better off than before the American and French wars, which added so enormously to our r ht. By the prudence of government since the WM, they bedlam stabled to take off cr diminish the dutyon salt, undies, leather, coals carried coastwise, beer, sad near, all of which paid heavy taxes before we undertook those unfortunate and mistaken wars. Having takm off those taxes, and having done so consist ently with maintaining a considerable military estab!bhment —(enale slid moth too lame a military establishment)—and consistently with the credit of the country—the hon. moor r he Sauey asked them to adopt muse scheme by which the eountry might be relieved from that which he eonswiered a great burden—the lament of upwards of 28 millions for the interest of the debt. The honourable gentleman who spoke last said the army wan a great deal tie, large, and that it ought to be exceedingly reduced. With respect to the army kept la the United Kingdom and Ito pennies they had this year proposed arsdretionof no less than 10.000 saes. Such • redaction is one year was very consPershle. (Hear, hear.) But the hon, member said— foilow.im others who had frequently mad* the same um. lion without anything like peool—tkat if we roomed oar colon ;et well, sad gave them representative ins itutions, we should ham so need of armies. (Hear, hen.) Toey ap peared to suppose that the army was maintained for the purpose of keeping down the people of the colonies; other wise, why not reduce the army at Portsmouth and Ply. mouth Troops were not kept at Portsmouth and Ply mouth because the people there were disaffected sal re quired to be kept down by military force, but to defend them places which were Seential to our defence. Ia the same way, we had troops at Bermuda and other places for the defence of these colonies. Tile hon. member for Mont rose said the expenses had gone en increasing. In 1847 and the la-ginning of 1848 there was an increase of expense ; but the tr. at increase had taken plan on the estimates cf 1846, which were very fully explained to the house, and which the house aimed upon a view of what were the wants of the country. An intense was proposed in the navy for the pur poses of defence ; and the house., without any opposition, affirmed the necessity of that increase. (Hear, hear.) He did not remember that there was anything beyond an insig nificant opposition to that Menem. At present there was • dispoetion the other way, and the home now called oa the government to make ?eduction, in the estimates. But con siderable reduction had already been made upon those mai mates ; taking the redurtloss of lase year and this year the total was mere than 2,200,0801. (Hear.) That certainly ab;wed an inclination to reduce. The budget of 1843-9 showed • re duction of 828,0001. ; while is mateis of 1849-60 there was a reduction of 1,611,46 H., making, together with further re ductions in the ordnance, a total of 2,613,8241, (Hear, hear.) But while making this reduction they had been constantly told that they were incresaing the :pewee. He trusted, therefore, that if the boon came to any resolution, it would be in the terms of time of the noble lord the asembol . for • Middlesex ; than it would think it far wiser not to tiey av ece in such swerfang terms, which could not lead r;,, e 'y p ractied results, b' .*.t would show its economy ',mk s , b y a constant 0 sulPorintendence of the exneadit'lre of the country than by a rots which was not to carry with it say actual result. (Hoer, Inv.) Mr. SPOONER conceived that a great dell of extraneous matter bad hoes introduced into the discussion, for the resolutions was con, ned to the facts of their being many nunecessay expenses, acd this the taxation of the country bore injariossly on the avenue. If this were not so, let the government meet it with a direct negative, instead of recennmenling the amendment of the noble lord, the mem ber for Middlesex. if it were improper in the metal:tees present to pays a cersure on. th , r ahsene, the impropriety eriuld be as sreat in adopting the amend ment. lie should I support the proposition of the hcn. member for Surrey, ',sardine the amendment as a complete evasion of the ques tion. Had be not known the inverialdy upright conduct of the noble fort who had moved the amendment he should have said it had been brought forward at the instance of the government. Mr. CHRISTOPHER said he should support the resolu tion in preference to the amendment. Mr. HAWES referred to a statement of the mover as to reductions proposed by the governor of Trinidad, end said that no objection had been raised to those reductions. Mr. BANKES complained that no notice had been given of the smendment. lie had been led to suppose that tne government would not oppose the original motion ; now it appeared they would support the amendment, which com *Lily evaded tha real question. Mr. DRUMMOND denied that be had taken advent,ge of the abeenee of hon. members, when he bad three times before brought forward substantially the same motion. He considered that the dis.uesion se to the relative merits of direct and indirect tazatior, was quite out of place, and • mere pretest for evading t he real question. The bowie then divided. Forthe - Agaiut it 7l-3 The announcement of the numbers was received with lend cheers. _ The original motion was then agreed to. GRAND JURIES (IRELAND.) Sir W. SOMERVILLE, in moving for leave to bring in a bill to snake better provision for the administration of fiscal affiiin in counties, counties of cities and counties of townin Deland, said that he did not prelim at that late period of the ses,ion to proceed with the bill, but merely to introduce it, so that it might be printed and its various pro visions conai bored during the mina. The object of the bill was to do away entirely with the present grand jury system is Ireland. Re propoeed to retabinth by this bll a county board and also district boards, and for this purpose the bill provided that the Lord Lieutenant should have the power of dividing the counties in various iiistricts. He proposed that the county board should be composed of eight magistrates, with a chairman and vute•chairman, making the number ten in all. They were to have a power of appointing a finance committee. He proposed that the dike of county treasurer should be no longer continued. Ho would act then enter more at large into the bill, as hon. gentlemen would have ample time to consider its detail, during the those. Mr. biONSELL beard with great satisfaction the inten tion of the tight hon. gentleman with regard to the grand jury system in Ireland, and he was hippy to find that the system of texation without repmentatitm was at length to be got rid of. (Hear.) Sir W. SOMERVILLE said 64 attention had been called to the subject to which his hon. friend alluded, but to it was one on woich arcat difference of opinion prevail d. be thought it better not to introduce that change in the bill. But he admitted that the point was worthy of comideratios, and it should have his best attention. Leave wu then given to bring in the bill. PUBLIC ROADS (IRELAND). On the motion of Sir W. tionsavn.t.s, leave was given to bring in a bill for the prevention of widen% and dangers to passengers upon public roads and highways in Irela.d, and for the puni•bment of offence* relating thereto. PUBLIC HEALTH (IRELAND). Sir W. SOMERVILLE moved for leave to bring in a bill for promoting the public health in Ireland. It was not his Intention to press the hII at this period of the see. sion, and at this particular time, when Ireland was not in • state in which she could well tear the great expense with which a till of this nature must be attended. But he wee hem to say that there was a desire fur sanitary reform growing up amongst the people. He would call the attention of the house to what had been done in the Sanitary Court of the city of Dahlia. From the 10th of October, ISIS, to the 13th of Jure, 1848, 7,108 com plaint, were brourht b-fore that court. Nui swots had been abolished in 8.830 cases ; 6,234 privies had been cleansed and whitewashed; 1,454 privies had been eledred ; 118 drains had been cleansed and covered in. With regard to the principle of this hill, he would observe that, in its main provisions, it resembled that which had been passed in rater. nee to this c tuntry, though there w-re some altera tions which would make its operation more beneficial thou it would otherwise be in the places to which it was intended to apply. With the hope that it would be the means of effect ing such au improvement he now asked fur leave to bring in the bill Mr. MONSELL had heard with pleasure that the go vernment intended to introduce a bill fur the preservation of the public health in Ireland ; but he would ask his right hon. friend whether or not it were consistent in him, rerre seating the government, to lay such stress on the introduc tion of: that bill, while they left the gaols in almost every town in the south of Ireland in such a state that they were centres of disease In the districts in which they were situated. It was most desirable that there should be coupled with the bill relating to the public health of Ire land, a measure for the registration of births, deaths, and rearview s, and he hoped his right hon. fib nd would be able to announce that the Rev( rumen; would introduce such a measure early in the next session. Ile trusted also that a similar announcement would be made with regard to intra• moral interments in the cities and towns of Ireland. Most disgraceful scenes now took place on account of the crowded state of the churchyards, and he felt quite sure that with out some change in that respect any bill relating to the public health would prove ineffectual. Sir W. SOMERVILLE said his boo. friend (Mr. Mon loll) had more than once called the atteation of his right hon. friend, the Secretary of State fur the Home Depart ment, to the crowded state of the gaols is Ireland; and every effort would be made by the government to relieve the gaols from the presence of those classes for whom they were respon sible. He had himself prepared a bill which he hoped to intro duce at an early period, and which would, he believed, effect by its operation considerableimprovement in the whole prison system of Ireland. Sir D. NORREYS said the evils of which the hon. gen tleman (Mr. Moesell) had complained was by no means confined to the gaol or Limerick. Two years ago 147 pri soners were soddenly crushed into the gaol of one town for a petty edema. After a few words from Mr. MONSELL in explanation, leave was given to bring in the bill. SAVINGS BANKS. On the motion of Mr. BRIGHT (in the absence and on behalf of Mr. Haute) numerous returns were ordered on the subject of savings banks, in continuation of parliamentary papers of ith June and 4th July, 1844. MEDALS TO THE ARMY IN INDIA. Mr. BRIGHT moved for copy of coempoadence between the Court of Diretton of the East India Company and the Board of Control, respecting the gnat*, of medals to the officers and men who (misfit at Assay*, Lamataree. Bhurtpoor, and other pla-es in India, in the early part of the present century, for which period medals have been gives for services in the Peninsula and other places. Sir 1. C. HOBHOUSE did not object to the return, hut doubted whether it would supply the information which the hon c x e ll d eman wonted. THE RECENT OUTRAGES AT CASTLEWELLAN. Mr. MOORE rose, in pursuance of motion, to call the attention of the house to the outrages lately committed in the neighbourhood of Castlewellan, in the north of Ireland. The occurrences to which hie motion had reference de manded the serious consideration of the house and the government, not only on account of the violence which had be committed, and the blood that had been shed, but on account of ether circumstances which had occasioned these transactions. Ia was scarcely necessary to remind the house that a very wise and proper enactment fer the suppression of these abominable nuisances and fanatical follies which had pre viously taken place on the 12th July was passed in 1845. Her Majesty's government had, however, in spite of the entreaties of gentlemen who were well acquainted with the state of Ireland, neglected to take the unman steps for renewing that bill ; relying probably, while abstaining from bringing forward a new measure, upon the good feeling, the sound discretion . ; and the right principles of the gentlemen of the north of Ireland, supposing that mutual allictions must have produusd mutual forbearance, and not thinking it possible that at such &period there would be an attempt to stir up the embers of forgotten quarrels, and to revive amongst a sensitive and chivalrous people the barbarous fends of religious animo sity. (Hear.) But the government little knew the hearts, souls, and brains of the Orangemen of the north ; they could not imagine that three long years of distress sad misfortune wculd bo crowned by the selection of the 12th of July as a fitting day for an offering to that Moloch of religious ascen dancy which had ground down the energies of the people for the last three centuries. (Hoar, hear.) Having gone over the facts of the case with which the public are already acquainted, the honourhble member observed that it was essential that the, government should institute • searching inquiry into the whole of this case, from Sotto last, into the °endue% of all parties connected with it, from lowest te highest—an inquiry which, if rightly con ducted, might throw light into the mystery of that social cancer which bed been eating so long into the heart of Ire land ; if such , a light were developed, the blood shod on the 12th of Jul , ' would not have been shed in vain. (Hear.) Sir W. SOMERVILLE said that if he did not go into the deters of the statement of the hon. gentleman, it was not Inman no did not feel as deeply as the hon. gentleman this horrors of the scene to which he referred. (Hear.) Be bad hoped the government would have been spared the painful necessity of bringing forward any measures for pre venting processions in Ireland, and he could In the meantime, whilst the inquiry was yet to be brought to an end, ingress his deep and sincere regret at the occurrence. Captain JONES did not yield to the hon. mernly e r for Mayo in the deep sentiment of regret at the oe,: erreeee in the county of Down. Tlsh hon. member b e d b een ver y lavish in his epithets towards ON 0 1 . the two p u tt ee ; h e hid used such terms is jatkpadding, bigot, fool• but he would take no further needce et t h e words. He had been one of those who applied to the government, and requested them to bring in • to put an end to all processions in Ireland. He =Vat deny that Lord Roden had invited the procession to ':,nter his park. He had seen a letter from his lordship, : saying that allegation. THE EXPRFSS, FRIDAY EVENING, JULY 20, 1849. Mr. BRIGHT said, that if the hon. member for Mayo ha 4 let fall some warm expressions, he mi2ht be readily e-xcused for having done so. He was very glai the hon. member had brought the matter before the bootie. Had he not done so he (Mr. Bright) should hove felt it his duty to have ask-. 1 the government to what extent an inquiry had been instituted into the origin of this meat shocking occurrence. The aovetn.- ment had been blamed for not bootie g brought in an act tor prohibit ne procro.io sin Ireland. Yet the government was right. They hoard that the tone which Ireland had aesumei rendered such a mem!" ne longs, necessary. But he should like to know whether the law in Ireland sanctioned the (plow about in processions of thousands of perenrs, eli of whom, save the women and the drummers, were armed to the tee . h. Such provisions would be illegal in En - land. It was only last year the government • ry properly prevented a procession from poising through the City, because by so doing disturbances were likely to be caused. He must ask the government to explain why the military and police accompanied the orange , Procession. (No) The evidet.er he had read said they aid, front morning until evening. It was clear the provocation was given by the orange (arty. (No.) That each was the case the evidence proved. The first shot was bred b an Orange. man. He must say that, in his opinion, Lord Roden and where of his eters were the most guilty of all the parties concern , d, and if the fe-.te pruned to be as they were stated, be ought to be struck of the C , l2llRillioo of the peace as a mark of the Meth/nation of the government. He would not tenet himself to speak to any man on the *abject, his feeiii!gs were too warm to permit him to do so, pending the en quiry. Sir D. NORREYS hoped that a scorching inquiry would be Instituted into the origin of this mist atrocious proceeding. Major BLACKALL rose to inform the hon. member op posits that armed proleviona were entire ly iilegol in Ireland. Mr. F. MACLE intteated the house to remember that only a abort time had elapsed since the melancholy oc eurrence whica they all deplored had taken plate, and that government was proceeding to institute an inquiry into the origin of it. Mr. MONSELL hoped the government would take some steps before the svisim closed t) bring in a bill to st••p prncestions of all sorts in Ireland. He should not be sausfled until he obtained a promise from the hon. S. cre wiry lor Ireland that such a measure should be introduced and prwid. (11.-sr. Mr. LABouciiens did not think that it was fait, oonsiderir.g the inquire was still going on, that such strong opinions 'noun be used with respect to th' trarmciion. Government should not undertake, whilst an inquiry was pending, to pronounce an opinion on an abstract questi Ile deeply lamentcd the °mutterer, and could only ripest that the attention of government would be given to this transaction. He bored the house would not now go on who the discussion. Uutil t`te facts bad been Acquired into, they should not prejudge them. Tome was enough to de• rr and a most searching inquiry—and that inquiry would he given. _ _ Mr. REYNOLDS said that the speech of the right bon. gentleman deo surprised and disappointed him. The hon. gent'eman called opal the house not to give an opinion upon an abstract propusiti .n. What did he mean by an atstraat proposition in connel'on with this massacre ? Mr. LABOTSCIIERE observed that he alluded to the question whether poeessions of this nature wire or were not Mr. REYNOLDS—The charge of the coroner was no excuse for the murders. The wretched dermas of these mur der' were not only calcu'ved to harrew up the feelings of every Christie n man, and to reflect disgrace on this civilised country, bet to reflect discredit upon the authorities. If a Geiranger had wino into the present assemblage, he would have thought that they were assembled to pronounce a pan. - gyre on Lord Roden on the one hand, and of the military on the other. It occurred to him that the author of three murders was Lord Eeden. That might be excee d ingly unpleasant to bear, hut he believed the facts would tine out to be so, that ho invited 1,500 men to his grounds, that he sppoered in the dues of an orangeman, that he read extracts from the Holy Bible ; that he regaled tLem with beer, porter, and whi-key, and that they were directed to go • circuitous enures and • had road, b:e use the immediate district of Dowbray was inhabited by Roman Caseolies. They deter mined to go to the buses of their neighbours to insult them; they hod a troop of Enaiakillen dragoons riding before them ; and two temperer, of infantry upon their rear ; they were guarded in flank by Orange police, and after a shot from the van of this murderous cavalcade, they commenced the work of bane. The police immediately joined in rursuit of the peep's, who were moot hype , perly called ribbor.mec, • name which was car. Tied by the enemies of tle pee; le, as a set off against orange. men. He hi hi in his hmrt a letter wane:. by a gentleman of chancier end respectability, who 'pent the entire day in the district where the murders were cumin tted, and who had siren the names of the parties whose houses were burnt. The catholic priest's house was burnt, they rubbed the ca tholic chapel, they robbed the people of their pro perty, they took a grocer's shop into their pollees lion, and hiving burnt the house took away the man's property. It was impossible fen any Irishman who for d his country, who was anxious to see religious distinction cease, to restrain his indignation on the content planer of this awful event. Lewd Rod .0 was • magistrate ; Lord Roden was a privy coueciilor! Mr. Ben, the magi, trate, who encouraged these bloodhounds, was also in the power of the government. Did they recollect uow the whir government dealt with C.,lonel Verner, member for Armegh. He proposed the battle of the Diamond at one of these July hangover', and Lord Normanby, to his eternal credit, deprived Colonel "Verntr act the commission of the pear, for having given that toast. On a similar occasion Col. Black, who appeared with an orange sash. was deprived of the commission of the peace. Hr knew what the government did with Mr. Watson of Carlow. Was there any doubt as to what was to be dune with Lord Roden ? lt Lord Roden wu per mitted to retain the commission of the pest., or he • privy councillor, then he said that there was despotism in Ireland ; then he said that orange ercendancy was ram. pant in Ireland ; and then he would tell his countrymen, 'e You can have no confidence in the government." It was hetet sickening to read the evidence before the e eroner's in quest. lie intended, on the earliest oecasion, to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department whe ther these magisterial delinquents were any longer to retain the commission of the peace. Dr. NICHOL trusted that hon. members would recollect that this most lamentable, most disgraceful proceeding had only occurred within a store period, that government had been pledged to examine it, the probability was teat judicial proceedings would be instituted, and nothing ought to be said or pass which could in any way prejudice the question. Capt. ARCHDALL was understood to say that he treated with scorn and contempt the observations which heti been made by the hen, member for Dublin as to the Orange men of Ireland. Mr. MOORE withdrew his motion. SALE OF BREAD. Mr. BANKES moved the second reading of a bill for preventing frauds in the sale of bread The hen. member exprcsaed his hope that government would not oppose the bill. Mr. LABOUCHERE opposed the further progress of the bill. The present law provided that the baker should keep weights and weigh out the bread to the purchaser. The hon. member proposed that the bread should be weighed out of the oven and stamped accordingly. lie (Mr. Labouchrre), feeling that the alteration would greatly embarrass trade and place reepectable tradesmen at the mercy of informers, felt bound, however reluctantly, to mese that the bill be read a second time that day six months. Sir C. BURRELL supported the bill. C3pt. PECHELL opposed the bill as calculated to Inter fere vexatiously with email tradesmen throughout the country. Lord D. Seta= ant Mr. MANGLES took a similar view of the question. The gallery was cleared for division but none took place, the motion having been negatived, and the bill thrown out. The Dublin Improvement Bill peered through committee, and the house adjourned at 1 o'clock. Vte etrorefso. OUTGOING MAILS. Mal fee Irina Ninth Amerce and the United State. will be made up t`..!a evening. The mails, ne Marseilles, to the Meditovvaneen, Egypt, Ceylon, lloott-Kone,na..vrill be made upon the evening of Joiy 211 b. The male for Vino, Oporto, Lieboo, Madeira, Cadiz, and titbralla, will be made op on the 2.7tb of July. The Wert ladle Math, intit.dien Bermuda, Ravens. Naomi, EL, tuna, New Orleans, and Mexico, aaft eariadino those for atrattia, Bt. Jae-de.wiraregus. New Granada, Chili, sad Pero, wi . be Lade ao on tbo Ird of august The mails for Madeira, the Brazils, and Buenos Ayres, will be made up on tits 4th of Auras.. SIGH WATIR AT LONDON 111111:16/1 1 40-1110.•200. m ols. Am .1; Aftenmes. I ta. PM li " .. . — NomalAA.43 ALA pa“ ; Aftecro„ 10 atA. ISO I. LONDON, FRIDAY, JULY 20. ALL things combine to stimulate financial re formers to redouble their efforts and extend and com plete their organisation. Increase of numbers and growing interest in their adherents out of doors ; symptoms in parliament of augmented confidence and ffrmneas in their lead-rs ; of a contagious disposition among nuofficial members to join their standard, of wavering and hesitation on the part of government in its resirrance to them. The double meeting in the Tower Hamlets is of good augury. The doors of the place where one meeting was meant to be held were beset with such a crowd that half of the leaders felt it necessary to draw off a part of their forces to another locality. JOSMA WALMSLEY announced to the as sembly over which he presided that the corn , mitten ce the aascciation were besieged with applications from all quarters to make their movement a national one. He announced their Mention, in conformity with these requests, to hold ere long an aggregate meeting in one of our large London theatres. The demand for par liamentary, with a view to obtain finardal reform. is being made by a unanimous and orgatised people. Even within the walls of the House of Commons the cause is undeniably making progress. True, ministers still resist all proposals for immediate, red retrerchment ; true, they parade what has already %men done (or what they allege has been dove) in this way, as a reason for doing uo'birg more ; tree, they appeal to the consiste my of members, reminding them that they have hitherto voted against further retrenchment as a reason fur their continuing to do so; and, true, they still command majorities. But the small compact body of financial reformers in the house have learned their strength and its source. They are becoming more firm and uncompromising. They have compelled government to abate the inde cent haste with which it sought to press money votes thrcugh the heuse. They have availed themselves of the time gained to place in a strong light its wanton and profuse expenditure. They have excited the emu lation of the country gentlemen, who, though their attempts at playing the part of economists have been Eccisionally awkward and bungling enough, have, by the-e attempts, committed themselves to the ;yin elide of retrenchment. They have elicited declara tions from men who have I eld high office—front men like Sir JAMES GRAHAM and Mr. VERNON SMlTH— that greater economies may be, end ought to be, made in public expenditure than have yet been made. And last, and most important of all, amid these indi cations that the rause of financial reform is advanc ing, Lord lons Russell, has shown symptoms of quailing before them. On Wednesday, Lord JOHN Husseht. concluded the hackneyed and unmeaning talk about the necessity of maintaining huge military stores and great num bers of troot s in our colonies, with which he sought to parry Mr. COBDEN'S merciless exposure of ordnance extravagance by solemnly disavowing any intention to form new establishments, and pledging himself (next jeer though) to step all wasteful expendi ture for the colonies. We place little Nth in mini-terial promises to reduce expenditure: here after provided honourable members will only ab stain from importuning them at present; but Lord drones attempt to evade rather than resist the c,.11 for retrenchment, shows his conscious ness that : resistance will not be much longer praeticable. lie already contemplates the possibility of his having to ask a parley with a view to offer terms. It has been said that the woman who deli berates is lost, and the minister who resists popular demands is not in a much more hopeful condition when the thought that he may one day be obliged to yield onc,r crosses his mind. The reception which Mr. Dnustmosn's motion met with last night in the llouse of Commons corrobo rates the inference necessarily drawn from the symp toms upon which we have been dilating. Mr. DRUMMOND'S motion went to affirm that more money is levied by taxation than is required to main tain a geed and efficient government ; that large sums are expended upon needless places, extrava gant salaries, useless works and establishments; that this excess of taxation diminishes the fund for the employment of productive labour to an extent se verely felt by all, end especially by the working classes; and that, therefore, adequate means should forthwith be artopted to re duce the expenditure of government. The debate upon this motion was cha racterised by an unwonted degree of dramatic in terest. The mover may fairly be said to have broken down in his opening speech. He commenced by dis claiming faction.' motives. He went on to assign reasons for thinking that the bonds of party were re lazed and falling off: He cited instances to show how the sprit of party survived its efficacious organi sation. He disavowed any intertion of blaming the existing government any more than all their prede cessors for the system he assailed. He then proceeded to illustrate the =squat pressure of taxation on the poor • but, after citing one or two illustrative cases, stopPed sh ort, and without further preface submitted his motion to the house. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rushed to take advantage of this failure. Ile taunted Mr.DRUMMOND with having given utter ance to one or two impracticable notions, which, however, had no direct bearing on the question at issue. He elaborately exposed these irrelevant ab surdities. He assumed high ground, and boastfully recounted (for the fourth time within these few weeks) all the petty savings in detail eff cted of late years by , himself and colleagues. He then aeain turned off into an irrelevant dismission, indulging in sundry small sneers at the various and inconsistent reasons weigned by the minority who voted in support of Mr. HENLEY'S motion. And he concluded by opposing 31r. DRUMMOND'S motion on th aground that it implied a censure upon ministers. Bf, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER'S triumph, if ever he felt any, was soon abated. Mr. Hums came to the rescue of Mr. DRUMMOND. He alluded sarcastically to Sir CHARLFS'S thrice-told tale of penny-halfpenny savings, and at once brought back the attention of the house to the question really be fore them. He exposed the wanton and profligate expenditure upon oar defensive establishments, in curred principally through their uncalled-for magni tude, and aggravated by systematic mismanagement and favouritism. He demolished the whole array of petty economies, by showing that while 1001. had been saved in this deportment, and 1,000/. in that the aggregate annual expenditure had gone on in creasing. Mr. Hulre'repudiated the idea of intrend ing to censure the present government, but as ;,fined unanswerable arguments for voting in support, of the motion. His speech was warmly received, ,utd eter he had sat down he was followed by M s , Ewmor, who pointed out the expediency of eat ending direct taxation; Mr. MILNER GIBSON, who explained that though he moved the previous question on Mr. DRUMMOND'S motion to go into committee on the proposal he had now moote 4 ;, knowing nothing would come of such a step, he could not refuse his assent to the abstract prov/cv,ition; and by Colonel THOMPSON. While these gentlemen in succubi= poured is their shot on t' ne fi nanc i a l s ystem in which ministers ',mist, no co ll eagu e or par ti sa n og the CHANCELLOR of the y EXCHEQUER cams to his assist once. When the e.ebate had reached this stage, Lord -dveNon attempted a diversion in favour of minietete. He moved an amendment on Mr. ROBERT Gine DnrltmoNn's motion, to the effect that if there wan certain sal zics too large, others might not be is than sufficient for the duties performed, and that therefore an inquiry ought to precede any affirmative declaration on the subject. The drift of his amend ment was palpable ; it offered ministers a chance of beine4 let down easily. It betrayed an uneasy ap prehension that they might be left in a minority, or only enabled to tide over the shoal before them by a majority so small as to be litU, better than a mint., rity. But the relentless ROEBUCK pounced at once upon the pod-natured feather-bed which sought to ii.ttrpore itself— 'Twist cantle wall And heavy brunt of cannon balL" Mr. ROERUCH frankly avowed that whatever other members might think, he considered the motion equivalent to a vote of censure upon ministers, and supported it on that ace.enot. He reminded the ministerial bench and its retainers of Sir HENRY PARNELL'S motion, aluanat identical witii that of Mr. DRUMMOND, by means of which they had turned a tory gov.rnasent out of office long years ago. Ile denounced the want of principle which had not only not acted in ecniforaii, to the principles of that motion, but had actually launched into greater extravagance. He showed how the pre sent disturbed state of the contineat assured the safety of this country, its impunity from f 'reign aggression. He enlarged in a strain of reriking eloquence upon the infamy of a government which professed reform and literal views persisting in extra vagant expenditure or re dless armaments, and ex hausting the means cf the poor in order to maintain an arrogant and ostent.tious position in the eyes of the world. He showed how such a frivolous and heartless policy weakened, lest, ad of strengthening, the nation's capacity for defence against unjust aggression.. Mr. Roeisuee's speech wee, through out, in his lumpiest and most powerful vein. Lord JOHN RUSSELL rose at its termination, lees to reply to it, than to accept with humble thankfulness the mediatolial interposition of Lord Runner GROS VENOR. But even this palpable appeal ad misrri cordiam availed ministers little. The original motion was carried by a majority of three. We unhesitatingly claim this as a victory for financial reform. Tne ministry have not ventured to deny the exigence of the abuses complained of. If the phalanx of financial reformers in the House of Commons continue firm, active, and inflexible, and if the adherents of the cause out of doors continue to manifest their Increasing numbers and zeal, success at no distant dute is certain. But they must stick to their point. Inquiries into proved abuses are mere shams, out of which nothing comes. The national expenditure is exeeesive; the cause of the excess is our overgrown and aristocratically-mismanaged army and navy; the excess entails suffering upon all classes, utter destitution on the labouring poor. We want no inquiry into facts so notorious as these: we went to have the injustice and oppression redressed, and thst without delay. TERMS OF THE ARMISTICE BETWEEN PRUSSIA AND DENMARK. A suspension of hostilities, both by sea and land, for six months, is agreed to. At the close of this period the armistice, if not to be renewed, is to con tinue six weeks longer. The Prussian and German troops are to be withdrawn from Jutland within 25 days after the ratification of the armistice, and to take up the position assigned to them in the articles agreed on. The generals on either aide are to agree up in a line of demarcation extending from Flensburg on the south to Toudern on the nc.rth. During the continuanse of the armistice Prussia is allowed to keep 6,000 men on the south aide of the line. The part of Schleswig which is to the north of the line is to be occupied by 2,000 neutral troops. The King of Swelen is to be requested to furnish these troops. The King of Denmark is to bear the costa hereby fe -1 curral. The islands of Alsen and Aroe are toremain in the occupation of the Amish troops. The blockade is to be raised as soon as the German troops have bet n moved to the south of Flensburg. The orders for 'Keir retreat, and f,r the removal of the bier kade, are to be issued at the same time. The captured vessels, with their cargoes, are to be restored on both Fides. If the cargoes have perished compensation is to be made. The emtributions in money and horses exacted in Jutland ere to be repaid. Commissioners are to be app.‘inted by bath parties to estimate their amount, and if they cannot agre2, an English commissioner is to be added as ump;re. All prisoners are to be exchanged at Flensburg within 25 days after the ratification. During the continuance of the armistice the Duchy of Schleswig is to be governed by a commission ; of which one member is to be nominated by the King of 1). nmark, one by the King of Prussia. The Queen of England is to be requested to nominate a third member, who is to decide in all ceecs when the other two cannot agree. The commise'on is to govern in conformity to the existing laws. It is empowered to repeal all laws enacted since the 17th of March, 1810, of which it does not approve. It can call out the troops stationed in the different parts of the duchy, for the purpose of maintaining order. It ie, in concert with the King o' Denmark, to decide what flag the ships of Schleswig are to sail under. The rest of the German states are to be invited to accede to the armistice, and on their accession they ate to be admitted to the benefit of all its provisions, The ratifications are to be exchanged within eight days. LA PLATA.—There era a few days later tulvices in Liverp'.ol from nutmeg Ayres, but no news. Ex change ruled V. Vbe Court. Ontomeg, TRUBSDAV.—The QUICII held a Pr:7 Council yesterday at one o'clock, which was attended by ills R Highness P ,yal Highnerince Albert, the Marquis of Lansdowne, Sir George Grey, Vi-count Palmerston, Earl Grey, Sir Francis Baring, Lord eamphill, the Marquis u! Clanricarde, ana Earl Portman. The Hon. William Bathurst officiated as Clerk of the Council. His Excellency M. Drouyn de Lhays, Ambassador front the Fremb Republic, was intro duced to Her Majesty by Viscount Palmerston, and had the honour of presenting his credentials. Alter the council the above noble personages partook of a luncheon, and then re turned to London with Om exception of the Marquis of Lmodewne, and Sir o , orge Grey, who were honoured by an inve•ation to remain at Osborne. There was no titan addition to the usual royal dinner patty. A deputation of noblemen and gentlemen repre senting the p rincipal railway companies had an interview, ye:terdsy, with Lord Jvhn Russell, at his official residence in Downing-street, re,pt‘cting the Audit of Railway Accounts Bill. The tiolle lord was accompanied by the Right Hon. Henry Lebouchere, President of the Bard of Trade, and by the Right Hon. Sir Edward Ryan, one of the Commissioner of Railways. The deputation was headed by the Earl of Linsdale, and included Mr. George Carr Glyn, Mr. Charles Ruin il, Mr. Chaplin, the Earl of Powis, Viscount Villiers, Mr. Lacy, Colonel Reid, and Mr. Stun. dem The Commission to inquire into the application of iron to railway structures, accompanied by Mr. Hood, endi neer to the El ighton line, Mr. Crewe, locomotive superin tendent, and the Astronomer &lel, proceeded on Wednes day, to make experiments on the Ewell-bridge, on the Epsom and Croydon line. THE VACANT JUDGESIIIP.—The rumour prevails that it M not Mr.Warson who is to be promoted to the vacant judgeship, but Sir Fred. Theeiger. We need not say with what changes and coalitions such an ap pointment is connected. UNIVERSITY AND CLERICAL. VritTzasiry or DURHAIIt —Four fellow/Mrs in this uni versity have been declared new they will be filled up in November. PHIFEHMENTS.—Rev. JOHN °LIMO/OBS to St. Kew V., dio. Ent.; 4011., with residence; pat., Lsay Grenville. it.,. G. B. Pairrimprx, to the head-mestership of he Humberstore School, lincolnehire Rev. T H BIRD. to Yarkhill V., dio. Hereford ; 3501.; pat., the Dean and Canons of Hereford. NAVAL. ADMIRALTY, JULY 19.—APPOINTWENTS.—T0 Peril•lll—. Surgcon: Miller. Ambr.-Siirgeon: S. Wade. Naval Cadet : W. Kellet —To Stromboli —Mate : M. S. L. Neils. —To Hen-Ides . —Master: J. Bowles.—To Centaur —Mo tors-Assistant :8. D. Switzer.—To Coast Guard—Chief Officer: W. It. Brooman. PORTAMOVTII, JuLT 19.—Childers, 12, Commander Pit man, from the East ladies, arrived this aftanoon, having left the Cape of Good Hope on May 26, leaving there Southampton (flag-ship), Geyser, and Dee (steamers) ; gal led at St. Helena on the 6th, and Ascension on the 10th ult., at which date iLeceuii wu healthy. Lieut. G. A. Eller man, invalided, has come home by Childers, from Orestes. Sea Lark (brig) had just lined from Ascension, where line rains had fallen prior to Childers arriving. COMMISSIONS SIGNED BY THE Loart-Lizotan), NT OP ABBB.DBB.YeBIYB•—Right Hon. F. A . K. Facolvo. Earl of Kintyre; A. Bannerman, Esq., your.ger and J. cordon, Esq., to be Deputy. Lieutenants. ATTEMPTED Mt TlNT.—nitchell and Weed, the two principals in the prol• j cted mutiny on board the ship Yak, from New Orli.eana to Liverpool (tb e particulars of which have already been published), Wm'', on Saturday emamitted to . tav their trial at the app•roschiog assizes. IThe rest of ICI, crew have been bound o'rer to prosecute.— LiesvpoPi Times. LONDON JOINT-STOCK BANK. Yesterday the twenty-fourth belf-pearly meeting of the proprietors of this bank was held at the Board-room, Princes-street, fee the purpose of receiving the report and declaring a dividend. The meeting was very numerously attended. The chair was occupied by WILLIAM June LANCAPTER. El4l. The SECRETARY (Mr. Hewett) commenced the pro ceedings by reading the report and statement of accounts, from which it appeared that the nett profits realised by the bank during the six months ending the 30th June last, amount to 33,4331. 14s. Id., and that the sum of 18,0001. being appropriated to the half-yearly dividend at the rate of 6 per cent. per annum, there remains a balance of 15,4331. 14s. ld. undivided profit to be disposed of at the end of the year. The dividend, free from income tax, will be payable on and after Friday, the 27th inst. The CHAIRMAN moved that the report be received, printed, and circulated, and that a dividend at the rate of 6 per rent. per annum be declared on the paid-up capital. The motion was seconded and unanimously adopted. I:pon the motion of Mr. BoanonALE, seconded by Mr. Deputy CORMIT, a cordial vote of thanks was passed to the chairman and the directors for their conduct during the put half year. The CHAIRMAN, in acknowledging the compliment, said that himself and his colleagues would never consider any application too close, or any labour too onerous, if they were enabled to lay before the prop r ietors half yearly suc k accounts as would justify conflousee being reposed in them. (Cheers.) A vote of thanks was t ex t pond to George Pollard, 800 the men"' 1110, 4er of the bank ; and the meeting WESTMIs;STER FREEHOLD LAND SOHIETT.—A numerous meeting of this society was held on Wednesday ermine at the York Hotel, Upper Wellingtowstreet,SMitecf, for th c purpose of appointing the officers of the todety fir the ensuing year ; Mr. Z. D. Berry In the chair. After the routine business had been disposed of it was resolved that a public riveting should be held on Monday evening next, at the Western Literary Instituficro, Leicester-mums. At the conclusion of the meeting a number of persons ems for ward to take shares in the eseie l , THE ACCIDENT TO VA AitONAIIT.—DISCOVEE T OP THE BODY.—AII doubts regarding the fate of the unfortunate aeronaut Vito, on Monday week, attempted to crass the Channel ie. a balloon, were yesterday set at rest by the discover/ of the body. Some fishermen, it appears, found it on the kleth'Ates Sands, a shoal nearly in the centre of the British Chr.mtel, off Lavernock-point, abut 12 m i les south of Cardiff. PARLIAMENTARY AND FINANCIAL REFORM. MEETING AT GREENWICH. Ytetereay eveairg, a public electing of the inha bitants of Greenwich was held at the Lecture-hall, in that borough, fur the purrse of promoting the principles pro oounded by the Metropolitan Parliamentary and Financial Reform Asaciation. The meeting was very num. roacly attended. Tbs. chair was occupied by JOHN WADE, Eeq. The CHAIRMAN, is %ening the proceedings of the evening, raid that the great nhjec:s to be accomplished were only to be ebtalued by unanimity and persevi rsr He he : I:eyed that so surely as the rditie al unions end the Anti-care law association relomplished their objects, so surely would the M:trispnlitan and :Financial Reform Ass-elation saceeed. Mr. GRAHAM propped the first resolution, as follows: l• That the absence of a really representative Monte of Commone, the preponderance of class legislation, the ttne qual pressure of taxation, the general extravagance of the public expenditure, and the consequences of these evils en geneleri: g discontent, and threatening disorders fatal to the peitieal end to the social prosperity of this empire, render she combination of the middle and the working classes for the attainment of parliamentary reform a matter of mo mentous itanortanee to the state." Mr. HA RRILD seconded the resolution. Mr. ALEXANDER MACKAY suppoited it in a speech of cousi.. erable length ~ n d great ability. Mr CLARKE also supported the rcanlutirn. He believed that the pr.rent government was the most corrupt which hed ever existed, and that all clams were represented, but those who were the most important clams, namely, the in dustrious clap es _ _ _ Sir FRANCIS KNOWLES next addrea•ed the meeting. He paid the great otj ct of the Metropolitan Parliamentary and Financial Reform Association was to make that a laet which was now a fiction, fur the Reform Act was a gr •at delusion, and nomination and bribery were as rife as ever. (Cheers ) Mr. E. MASTERS moved the second resolution as follows; "That tho Metropolitan P. rliamentary and Financial Reform A"aciation affords the opporunity for such a con bination, and that this meeting therefore pledges itself indi ♦idually a.. 1 collectively to aid and co-operate with that asslciation."_ The Re.. Mr. SQUEERS wended this resolutio n. Mr. Z ATKINAM supported it; and after tie usual vote of thanks to the eiminnan, the meeting separated. RAILWAY MEETING. YORK, NEWCASTLE, AND BERWICK' RAILWAY. [SPECIAL MEETING.] MR. HUDSON ANI) TIIE AFFAIRS OF THE COMPAN Y. A special meeting of this company, postponed by repeated adjournments since ihlsv Ices, was held in the Festival Coinert-roe m York, on Wednesday, to receive the report of the committee which was appointed at the meet iag in May I. investigate the affairs of the company, and which was published iu the Express of Saturday lest. Soon after twelve o'clo. k Mr. Davies, the deputy•chair- Mr. Flews. and Mr. Wood, of the directors ; the Right Hon. t Mja a :7 J a m es Meeko f ee i f r t T ha n e R t u ,"( l: l l: l l.. t i r i rPd st j an n i(ll4 l ,: . : P en i ß r t er e g s rleel' i i m : Y i ePa t od h h r i k e .hi it' would room.iSiuMr:.driLe. S hield , f . l : . DirhaXert4vie Richa r d son,e s e e : y e3 t l:: : t oo k the remarks in bringing before the meeting the second report of the committee which they hod appointed to ihvestigtde the affairs of the York, Newcastle, and Berwick R iilwiey. That report was now 10. fore thin, and be apprehended that the m..pwity, if not the greeter part of the meeting, had read it, and were ready to give their opinion up in it. It cousistod of certain distinct departments, and one of there hAI reference to the appropriation of the funds of the company to the Sunderland Dock Company. At a former meeting aeme gentlemen thought that he (the Lord Mayor) was not sufficiently open and drank in reference to the names of 'the gentlemen who had agreed to the transfer of the 2,315 sbuos, but he believed these gentlemen would now he 'lethal• d that at the proper time they had been suf ficiently explicit. (Hear.) With those 2,345 shares the pro prieture had nothing to do. If they though , proper to inereom their interest iu the Sutherland Dicks to that extant they might do s : ; but he would not reeomrutiud them to do so, for, speaking es sn inoisidual, Le would not do so himself . . (Appleuse ) The next matt. r hail ref niece to tine allotment of shares. He would not dwell upon ail further than to make a remark or two upon the conduct of the board of directors, for he must speak of them, however reluctantly, in the ap propriation of shares. The committee deprecate 1 both the principle and the practice of directors taking the shares belong ing to public companies and appropriating them to themselves. (Applause.) Bat, however they might& precate the practice, they could not but draw a marked line of eistinction be tween the other directors and Mr. Hudson, for they all knew that in 1843 the morel standard of correct action was lower than i• ought to be in refer. nee to gentlemen taking shares belonging to public companies. He would not for a moment attempt to do away with the principles of integrity ant moral feelings on the put of tlin.e individuals who ware invested with a public trust; but as the report showed that there were only a hundred shares each, he did net think there would be any disposition on the part of the shareholders to institute legal proceedings to recite. r what the direc tors might have realised by the sale of these shortie. (" Yes, we will.") Well, he lied given his opinion, at d he left the question with themselves. At recanted the parchme of land, he thought it r.ght to sta:c that Mr. Hudson had paid back the purchase money for the land will interest. ( Hear.) Ile would only say, therefore, that whatever might have been Mr. Hudson's 'gulden and design in taking their money, certainly it had the egtet of giving the share holder. in the statistical report a very improper view of their finances, showing a larger amount of debit than was really the fact. His lordship concluded by Meting that the ri port be received. Mr. LEECHMORE seconded the motion, which was car ried nnenimously. Mr. PRANCE then came forward. He said, painful as was the position of taking part in these proceedings, still he thought he ought not to flinch from it when he recollected the past Ise hod ookoet in tho prorooalop of the foe Mel' COM. mitee. He felt sure that every one preen at must have read attentively this report, with the valuable mess of evidence which uccompented it ; and he had risen front the perusal of it with the impression that the company—that society at large—owed a debt of gratitude to the members of the com mittee for the way in which they had discharged the trust reposed in them. (Applause.) It was impossible to speak in too high terms of eulogy of this report. The committee had modestly called this report an i piteme of the evidence. But this was, to his mind, its highest priire, for it wee an as surance that the report was in all its part, borne cut by the evidence. Ile thought, therefore, there could be no hesita tion in adopting the resolution he had now to propeae— " That the second report of the committee of investigation be adopted by this meeting." The Hon. Mr. HONDAS, M.P. for Richmond, seconded the motion. At the same time be thought it would be better if they discussed the different parts of the report seriatim, as there was one suggestion in the report which he thought might be postponed. He referred to the recommendation to hold their board meetings for the future at Newcastle in stead of York. Mr. WYLIE thought this report was characterised by great ability, and what was still better, it was characterised by an honest purpose to tell the whole truth. The report was also what it prohased to be—a report from the commit tee, merely stating the facto, and leaving it to the share holders themselves to give the verdict. Ile did not wish to excite any angry feelings, tut he thought it would be incon sistent with the duty they owed to themselvee and to the public if they were now to hesitate in declaring their true and honest opinions. (Applause.) He would not shrink from dad. g so; but he would say to the directors, face to face—he was glad they were present, as he would not have spoken so freely of them in their a bs ence—and he would_ adopt the language of the report, and toll those gentlemen. that they had been guilty of great culpabiliiy—that their conduct had been characterised by a degree of subserviene s i which was disgraceful to them as gentlemen. (Applause. If the directors, by no fault of their own, or by accident , circumstances, bad bees placed in their present painful pa -1 than, he would not have saidthie—he would have commis*. . rated their position—at present he despised it. Ha con . , isesed, when he looked to their subserviency to that me n r ich as m xi tn ou s ttaoblpei-ch...heuipoove ;eat crumbs Hu d son—wh e n which f eh ro w m th th em at upon their conduct as disgraceful to themselr es, and die graceful to the whole country. (A •Voics : " I'.. is diaper isful is every way.") He came now to consider w eat ought '6O be the rational result of these investigatiossf and he th ought that one great advantage of having orie,treated they a was. that they had brought things to light which they would sever otherwise have ant to the bot'.om of ; and so bi g , a, did he esteem the labours of o '...is oansmittee, that he w ho o ped— be e w i hoe tiOdica ver might be of the;a re futa directors—Cn he uid inquiry. He had into tiled to say something cf the eioed'.'‘et of Mr. Hudson ; but, really. I though he dreaded the apt cersnee of the report, he d.id not expect the tenth part ofst . ae enormity, of the villainy, it die d-bed. (lieu, hear.) But, as the report accused the di... rectors of culpable m Aligenee, he asked if it was fair that, them gentlemen she' old remain at the head of their affairs. (Rear, bear.) He k new the many evils that might arise Irons suddenly d . Juisciog a whole board ; bat, on the other . hand, there wv e tie moral evil of allo win g men with blights d c "'"""' "' .` o remain at the head of their affairs. Ho kat w they had 7 ..0 power to compel the directors to resi g n,' out they he - the power to give sub an expression to • their feeling',h,, ~ that these gentlemen would no longer reta i n `T,'''' . p laces as directors. lie knew that what 1 . , e was ''' Ait to propose would add to the behOtrtl o f th e ' mints; yet he thought they had no other r efg , aene , an d, he would propene to call on the clizecto t ri ollz t s o e b r h e e : B l , .a gi r ee , de l their fu,,drha s e e rt a ,t 7 oe say, i usi n neoe t f tr e a ,h r thteh o n r yoa correspondenceu.tr however, brd t h i, se : ol commi t teea l l censuremipsaanub ootolf) i n quiry. n o rlia t itisih lie.eaedit,td iais a tent. their th (t e P P r t l e tt e po ' U OM Se rt rfl .) ; h e e ll re l c yie,;, was for e a e letter written to Mr. Heekeen by a gentleman who was a director of the Bank of England, an alderman of ti.e City of London, and a member of pplitamppk; and h e would engaffe to say that that alderman p ectin "ate a a more fawning letter front his oeastitaents that thi tter, which was written to Mr. Hullos by Mg. Aldef Thompson. (Hear, hear.) Mr. TROMPSOIi of.( Moat Hall) • b i le agreed with the recommendation of tie • ale Sunderland ~_17.,...;-(- . • ~. , et r v. 4 . v 3 7 ••,1:• I _. V:: 4: I