The Express. — London, England, 1849-06-20 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JUNE 20, 1849. we-- outbid evenieg. It war contrary to hie usual practice to take mach vert in their 1, reiships d. bates, but he telt lm ...di/1 booed to oppose the WI. He attached no impert giter—to hivoloas objections. He quite admitted the talent and 0 0 , a bility of the noble earl opposite (Earl Orgy), hut it f semed to biro (Lord Lyn Shunt) that the noble earl had prrresd,huugh the se viral else* , sof she bill. The Roble did sot go so far es to say that rebels were to he p t sseyd for their rebellious acts, bat he did *ay that eon •j w eld be &wade 1 fur all unjust, unnecessary, or peoo ;bps acts cemerts 4 during the rebellion, and f. r all Mss sits arced eluting the rebellion—tor the seizure red t iming away Or 4(0.1114. or other injury to pet ptrty. ware was also a clou'e for the oompeasatim of persons * boa premiers had been occupied, during the rebellion, by beau& or military torus of her Majesty. The noble earl gbeserel those chases in the former act, and copied them bp this bill. But, n dwithstanding those clauses, there was ae doubt that the pastors engaged in the la • rebellion would be /stilled to receive ample compsnsiti en if th. it lordships b uoyed of the bill in its prisent shape. (Load cries of heir," from Lord Brougham.) He was a, pubes pee of tr. uhling the house too much—(No, no) —by going bilker Into the details. (No.) There was, however, mother class of persons who would come wit' in the opera tion of the bill it it beetme an act of parliament. [L rd pisegham here whispered the noble and 1-ansed speaker.] As his noble and I. amid fri nd merest d to him, the noble mil stated it would be most difficult to ascertain who had taken pert In the rebellion. Now, with respect to 104 per sons who had been outlawed far trot art, there could be no suc.h difficulty as the noble earl apprehends I. The regarded the outlawry of those several persons coal lbe easily N. lured to. If it was not in:eaded that they should be ow titled to comps 'ration for any losses they sustaised by rep son of the.r own rebellious acts, whets was the dielculty Ores:owing al doubts upon the subject by expressly ex cepting teem from the operatian of the bill? They had (~,failed their g-ods and chattels by being outlawed, end it there wa no intention to compensate Item for those its es, whet objection was there so state that aptc.fically in the bill itsek ? (llear, hear. lie would therefore pat it to their lordships to consider seriously whether they were prepared to sanction such a measure. Unless Castada was to bs considered an independent stets he thought it was the i'uty of the house to interfere for the perms of preventing such a m. slurs becoming law. It had been stated in another piece, that if the commission could be issued by the crown, instructions could be batted by the crown ; but, this would bi al commission issued under the authority of parliament, and no person could Interfere with it. The set of parlia men' could not be qualified by any instructiore of the Oa- Tensor Get era', or icy directions to the enamissioners. In the Canadian debates upon the bill, Mr. Baldwin, the Anon- 1-Osne rah was represented to have 4:pronely stated that it was not intended to ecrepensete rebels for their losses. If it really was iii , ended that they should not come within the operation of the measure, why was it not so provided? There was no such intention. It was pufeetty idle to argue the question , for there could be scarcely a doubt that the bill was sassed with that view. (User, hear.) Mr. Lafontaine was pressed, over and over again, while the bill was in pro. rise, to state west the real intention was, and no eatis emery opinion could be obmiced from him on the subject. If their lordships did not wow moan that retools should be canape sated why sot have them explicitly excepted in the bill ? 11;they objected to the amendinect, it might be modified, or put in some other form, so as to obviate the natural and reasonable objections to the bill ; bat, undoubtedly, the subject was de. serving of their I ordships' most orrice. consiteration. The noble earl asked how it would be possible to identify persons engaged In the rebellion. Nothing . wal more simple. The commissioner' were appointed to Ind sir into the chins ; could tits y not be empowered to receive evidence of the aureate of the par i.e pnf. et iog and that they Amid be ?ejected if they were proved to have bees implicated in the robe-Hies the noble earl said the parties cult' not bs examined) themselves ; but it should be remarked here that the Amway Act had acquitted them all. The coca elarriewers could Maine epos oath, and if they were not seti•llid that the parties had not been engaged in the rebellion, why should sot the bill emirs Ply din et them to reject the elaime of all such parties? Though the cunt. missioners, who were to determine eves; claim, might nut. is every ale, be able to rip rtain whether a semen was en gaged la the rebelliin, Ihs y could in the great majority of instance., at all events, be able to Aim a pretty crirrent opinion. And if they entertained any doubt upon the sot ), et, they would, a emir, according to the univend principle, Five the eleisant the benefit of it. There was nether p in: to which be wished to advert. la the preamble of the bid it spoe stated that its object was to compensate all "jest" this. fa WWI proved to have been occasioned fey the Telballiln. Sash words were not sufficient to disentitle rebels from a psrtisipati,ll in the beard , ' which would be ntelferte , l seder the hill, and it was irapcsaihle for say one , o rove that it could be so. it claims preferred by rebels were he be considered " unjust." and that they ware not to be in eluded in the operation of the aisesure, why rot state it ex ripely ? Every one at all timelier with acts of portholes/at, knew that an express exception tit:iodise rebels was &ea Intel; necessary, if it was intended that they dissaid be exclad.d. Thi ir letdships• comes was quite Wear. If this bell was rejected, a' other—an mended one—might be intredueed and the royal assent given to It. The law (Awn of the crown in Canade and the OtsVlreer-General @epee/sly stated there was so intention to compiles its rebels. That should he pialaly stated, otherwise they would be cam peneated and have equal advantages with Weal subjects. If a hill c , iristeei eials site intentions of the parties Were istrwlue:a, It would so doubt meet with fair consideration and be paned. Tnis bII did not correspond with the intentions of the petits, and why should different provisions be introduced ? Ile had to apologise to their lord alp fur troubling Or at so much. (No, no.) It might be the last occasion epee. which he should do so, hut as ho had bail the honour of hulling a high office undes the Coteau government, and entertained a decid..t conviction 74 to the' mischievous t nit r.cy of the bi!l, which hs cos side red in culling not only to the empire hut to the sovereign, he thought he should he disregarding the imperative 'uty cast upon him if he hail remained silent upon the subject. Lord CAMPBELL raid the code and learned lor 1 who had just sat down seemed to have forgotten that this bid was now in operation. It had received the as ef the axe cutive of Canada, and was the law of the lend there. Its opt r teen could be Bunn pled only by . the direct interference of the imperial pirlisment—by their die 'Bowing the bill and altogether annulling what had been formally done by the legialsture of that country. He should coerces he had heard with extreme pain the sprech of his noble and learned friend, who he h. pest bed returned to his olden opinions. He was old enough to remember well when his noble and learned blend (Lad Lynelherst) was a staunch liberal — (laughter, cheers, and cries of " order")—and when he would be found 'utterly supporting such a measure as that. But the noble mat learned lord took another turn. (Mention, question.) He had not only supported the ennacipatieu of the Bataan catholies—(Laughter and loud nits of " QUI tins.') lie was speaking to the question, and about to show their lordehins the otOftsee—(interruption and calls for " order.") But, without proceeding upon that point fur ther,—(bear) —pulpit s his noble and leaned friend thought of the Pesach p tpulation of Canada as he bad of the inhabitants of another perils of these realms. That they avers aliens is blood-06es of "Order" and general int' r. niptionj—ia language, and in relights. ("Oh, eh," and loud cries Of "Older" and " Clat Pion.") Yu, his noble sad learned friend might have thought so, for " Oa reek& t011)0 , 111 a vies premiere .moon"—(The remainder of the sentence was inaudible) He agreed entirely with his learned friend, that the construction to be put upon the bill should be expressed in it plainly. the me, dent for it in the other act was just as much open to objection as this. The commissiouers to be appointed were to be governed by the words of the preamble. and they were in structs.' that compensation should be allowed for just louts only The ques•l n w a., whether a man should be called on to show that he had been a loyal subject, or whether it ihotild be left to thou who resisted the claim to show that he had been guilty of treason. It would be most unjust to impose • condition en a man to prove that bc heel b.en a loyal *abject. What was to be the nature of the proc.eding ? What witnesses Was he to call ? How was he to stake out that he was • loyal subtlest? It would be most unfair and mist unjust. Thee it was mid that there must be an oppor soapy twee to prove that he had been disloyal, and that was the rent quer lost which the Canadian parliament had to determine, and which by tee bill of the Comedian parliament was now brou ht before the house. I. when a person came far compersition for his lows laving b een besot, it was to be proved that twelve yeses he'ote he was dieloval, whi.th we* the effect of Mr. Wilson's amendment, folios quoti4ta there will have been a trial for tells treason, it would lead to interminsbie inquiry and the grossest injustice. This bill mere gave to Lower Car ada the an which ha d beets given to Upper Canada; it made no invidious distinction between' the two provinces. For thus reasons he hoped their lordships would he of opinion that the sanction given to this act by the representative of the crown ought not to be interfered with, but that most dap genus fosse-queens would result Irma the iuterference of parliament on this 0111111101 A. Lord STANLEY gave credit to the etstrvatke of the noble and bused lord at the Cufeinftemsent of his speech, thet he was *bout to reply to a speech t which he had ;is. treed with eat h ous e but be must sayhimself, and foe the rest of the , not eruptin g noble lords oppo site, that they listened to the able and poser:al speech of the noble and learned leed (Lord Lyndhurst) with feelings et admiration for the power of lonelier which he displayed, i.r the undiminished clearness of his totalle tt, and the fares with which he p with the argument before him. which, while it she 'bet cgs fad in no degree Sepals it the vigour of his poem% added t the regret which all must feel at the annouccement which he had made that he intended seldom, if ever Plot to oceupy their lordships' atteatioo. He should have thought, howsver, that if there was ono feeling which it was Impos e hie for any one to palettes atter hearing the speech of the sable and learned lord, it was a belies to lead any One to easy. r such a speech by an unworthy taunt. (Hear.) He noble friend's high position sod long experience, lets high thane er, his distinguished and emiteat ah.litit• might hay. rested Dim, in the decline of his year*, from any oath unworthy taunt. His en'ele and learned fri. ad (L m 1 Calspbc.l) heel t thought it beneath kit on such an oceadon to addition such lsngusge to such a man; if the noble and learned hod had listened with pain to the stile statement of his noble and leareei friend, be wee sue that there wits no one who had not listened with deeper p lo to the noble and leaved lord's own statement; and he must code s. with all respect to the noble and h need lord, that his ease was on * par with his argument. Before he addressed himself to the particular eircumatences of this ease, he must advert to one or two topics adverted to by the noble earl with regard to the a xerciu of power, by the iniaisten of the crows, over the advisers of the colonial governor I. eolety in which responsible government had been introdayed. By rtsponsiMe government he meant the peen/meet of a party; and whit he hid seen had not tended to Asko or alter the opinion that government by • party was by . no means likely to contribute to the good ad. =migration or successful management of affairs; bet he freckly admitted that party goviromsnt having been iattoduced into Canada, whatever might have ban his a priori impressions or the impressions of any other Se cretary of State, he w. bound, u far at he could, to give effect to the responsible system of government. It might be asked how ware local self-government end the authority of the crown to be made to act together. If both were pushed to au extreme, it was impossible. Local self government, entire and without exception, excluded the an. thority of the crown, as the absolute authority of the crown would exclude heal telflovernment. The only difficulty as applied to responsible government was to state the oceasioue and to form a judgmt at of the nature of the questions on which it was puldie, wise, and expedient for the introduction of the authority of the crown through the Secretary of State. But if it were laid down that en no occasion ought that au thority to be interposed, end that • bill which had received the sanction of the local legislature was theretere agesseatily to pass, then the constitution of Canada, far from being the cocuitution of this country, or any thing'', approaching to it, was • constitution infla.itely more demo- critic, more shecilutt Iv and purely democratic, than that of I the United States. (Hear, hear.) If the principle were laid down that the prime minister was to advise the governor on every question, and that his advice wee to be imp icitly fol lowed—that he, being a man who had the full control of the local House et Assembly, was to advise the crown on all questions, incladieg the appointment of members to fill the leteislative council—the result of such a system would be to subject the legislative council, the governor, the crown ititlf, to the one icdontlual who, for the time being, =apposed to have, and was prepared to make an unscrupulous use of, hi 1 influence in the Hoes, of Assembly. (Hear.) The noble earl ((trey) admitted that there might be occasions on which it was right that the crown should interfere and exercise its autho rity i the question was, what sons the nature and char= ter of those occasions, end wan this one? (Hear, hear.) The noble earl tint appealed to their generosity, and said they oughts east oblivi .11 over everything that had occurred before. He entirely concurred in that policy ; but though, as the noble earl had observed, it was were out in the Scotch rebellion Ia 1745, yet no measure had ever been I. rought in for compensating thou who were out for the lasts they had sustained from the vi dente of the , king's tmops, in suppressing the rebellion of which they had been the instigators. Had such compensation been proposed in 1760, would any one have said there was injustice, imece lig, hardship, or cruelty, in asking the claimants what they were doing at the time, and how they happened to come by these lows? (Hoer, hear) That was the cue now before their lordships. It was precisely beanie e they thought that We bill did give encouragement to rebellion, and re worded it at the cost of thou who had put it down and had snared in their persons and property, because Bombed upon them to cdnpensate unconvic ed rebels, be anw it encouraged sad gave a premium to rebellion, that they joined ',mete with tee noble earl on that print. (Hear, hear) lie must now shortly refer to the history of the hills that had been introduced, for giving c ompensetion ; and he Ile be able to show that at no time had the object of the rit un of Upper Canada b , en to compensate rebels ; our believe that rebels had been compensated under Alum The first act passed by the parliament of Upper Camila before the union, recited that certain inhabimets (not using the espressioa " loyal iohabitante") had sus tained much loss and da mage by the destruction of their dwellings and other buildings by the rebels; and thereto. it author - hod inquiry into the 1 este so sustained. A com mission having been formed, to inquire into the merits of each specific case, and to autnorise the amount of compensa tion to be granted, a bill was passed in the following year, . vending the previsions of the former act to lo see sustained similarly, but 'II cons, quence of the =bile= which heel occurred subsequently to the passing of the former act. la 1839 a bil was passed by the p aliment of Lipper Canada, which provided for the payment of all just claims arising out of the late rebellion and nominal, ineluiing not only lases sustained by the rebels, but by the invaders and sympathisers from the United States. It was unneensary in that act to use lb. words " loyal so' jrctr," as the acts re ferred to the lows sustained from rebels and from the Met ric in invaders and sympathisers. That ect was disallowed by the goitre meet at home, because It provided Far the pay- ment out of British, end nut out of Canadian foods. In the meowing year molter act, obviating that inconvenience, was passed ; but, owing to financial difficulties, it hod never come into prectitel operation. The preamble of the act suf ficiently showed what was the intention of helium , re It stated I that. —" Whereat during the late unnaturel =held ,n, and in the several hostile invamit es and lawless aggressims on this province, at various points, by fortignere and others from the United bootee o' America, divers inhabitants of this province sustained much lose and damage by the destruction of their dwellings and other builOinge, and by the wise= and carry tog away of their property by Mods, inwleis, and others • sa and whereas the .dinteabitants have ementally cooteiboted to the effectual drones of the province, by capturing many of the rebels and invaders, by advancing money, and by sup I plying meat, drink, arms, accoutrements, , Ac , and by pet- tormieo many importut services in various ways, fur which they have not been hitherto paid et satisfied, sad their claims end demands are rill outstanding; and when.. it is jut' lad expedient that a'l such claims and demands should be paid and satisfied ; then fore, be it enacted, that this can minion be appointed to inquire into and unity such claims." An get had been a übsequeutly pasted, e xtendlaq the provisions of the former not not only to the lowa elllegille , l at the banes of the rebel., invaders, and ',nap %goers, but also to those sus tained by the destruction or damage of prep( sty occasioned ' by violence on the pot of persons in her Majeoe's service, or persons assuming to set on the part of her Majesty, aleo by the oecupsii..n of houses by her Majes'y's forces. That act was prsed in 1811, but, like the former one, it never come into practice' operation ; ...a it wa r not tin 18 it, ream he had the honour of balling the sods of the colonial depot- mesas, that Lord Metcalfe had Fretted up a him the extetroe 1 hardship to persons who e claims under these sets were still unsatisfied, and had pointed out the di ffi culty of obtaining I from the unit , d lepialatures a sanction of the compensation to the extent he designed to make it. He (LIN Stanley) was fortunate enough to suggest a course which was a'tcr wards adopted—the imposition of • err:ll3 tax throughout the municipeliti: ain both Upper as d Lower Canada. A subsequent inquiry took place, with the view of extending the provisimos of that set ; but it wes put • ttop to, not because the whole of the claims were satisfied, but because Lord Sydenham found it nteessery to stop the inquiry on account of the fitiantiel state of the province. Be would now st is to the house a case which cccured in Upper Canada, and which was not provided for by the exist ing law. It was the rase of Mr. Isaac Smith, and was coo ounce in the statement of Sir R. Jackson. He was a manof ' undoubted loyalty, in a part el the country where disaffection generally prevailed ; and on lacing told that his property af forded shelter to the rebels, teem which they cool I fi - e on tkeQueen's troops, he eons , flied to its destruction. It was de stroyed ; and on the cam bring reported by Col. Taylor, he received the sp. clel thanks of the Command , r in-Chief. But he could not be included nadir any of the two former bills, and compensetion was refused in that cue, because the destruction of the property was consented to, for the purpose of assisting her Majesty's troop. With regard to the pb logy of the act, be would observe that under its terms nous but "just losses" were to be compensated. Now, under the tern,; " just been," were all penal' who were notorious rebes excluded from compensation ? If so, ho would ask what was the meaning of the proviso which specially and by name es t:Meet certain portico Us would ask his noble and learned friend opposite whether be would say as a lawyer that the 104 persero w o were outlawed, and the 350 who were taken with arms in their hands would ba excluded ? (Hear.) Would his noble sod learned friend show him the terms of the set which exclu b d these persons, or would he &tont the statement which ~.J luso so well put by has noble and learned fiiend near, that all those who were not specially excluded would b' entitled to receive compensation. ( Hese.) But in order to know what just lanes were they must inquire, and yet, noble and learned lords opposite protested against the monstrous principle, as they said, of raking up old grievances. (Hear, hear.) By the bill as at stood 1 they must Ego ute inquiries an I in= stioate the circumstances under which the lases were sustained. Sup- I pose the case of a pm= claiming compensation for the leo@ of a market; they mug necessarily inqulre how he lost it. " Where were you whe , y a lost it?" would be the coos lion. " Why, oenternen, I wasn't at house." " But whine did you Its it, aced under what circumstances ?" " Why, I was standing with a me of my fellow.countremen, in closer proximity than 1 thought was cemfor able to the Queen's troops, and I three( away my musket, and now 1 want eons 1 palmation for it " Lyra CAMPBELL—That would not be a great loos. (Hear, hear.) Lord STANLEY—But then they must inquire. (Cheers ) The noble. and 'rano d lord asked if they were going to in stitute two or three hundred tritli for high treason. Now, this would not be *case of trial foe high tnseou, but the case of a man coming forward to substantiate a claim against the government. (Hear, bear.) And surely in that ere the government had a right, and was baund M know, the nature of the clam. (Cheers.) About tea days before he was compelled to leave the post which he had occupied with such honour to himself, and advantage to the crown, Lord Metealte Issued a commission " Pee inquiring situ the looses sustained by her Majesty's loyal subjects in that pot of the province of Canada which formerly oonsti.utt d tete province et Lower Canada during the late unnatural fe'l , boo.' Lord Metcalfe was not afraid to call things by their right names; he did not shriek from speaking of tee " wingers' rehellioe." He did not wish to impute any blame to the noble lad who succeeded him ; bat it was remarkable that en the 12th of December, only two days alter the issuing of this dispatch, there came an in struction to the erommiesionere, Closed by the Secretary Daly, which milks et inquiries "into the losses sustained by her !fajesty's subject' ," not "loyal subjects," during not the uanatiand rebellion," tat o the unhappy o wi ng i n Lower Canada." (Hear, hear.) Though the re was a suffi cient variation in the language used immediately after the steady hand of Lair I Metcelte was removed, yet he heard there was no ist , naion to limit the extension under that sommixdoo to persons who bed meta dly been convicted. The language need by Lewd Elaties advisers in the diecutOons satigied him (Lord Stanley) that the noble lord opposite erred in supposing that it was not at that time the intention of the ministry of Lord Elgin, to recommend the compensation of rebels. In the course of this discussion, Mr. Cameron said he trusted there would be loystar. cham aerutiny as to were and ne who were not al • and Mr. ber Drummond, the who soli citor-ee ral, after ray ing t hat he hoped the decision of the court-martinis would be reversed, ft was "no bushiest of the house to say who Were guilty of high Mime; the Act of Idemnity had done away with all that ; in technical language, the persons pardoned were in ire same position as before." Bony ministers went so far as to &had the rebellion itself as • jest and peeper resistance of arbitrary power, and one gentle man, ibe president of the .onntil, actually road in the small stinerity—no, Its was not aura whether ha actually voted. - Lord LYNDHURfir.—He said he should have voted. Lord STANLEY—He expressed his conviction that the exclusion of those who had been convicted and t animated as Laken was improper. He (Lord Stanley) thought he had now sufficiently shown that it was the intention of the ministry of Lord Elgin to compensate persons who had notoriously been engaged in the rebellion. The question which their kr& ships had to decide was, whether they would anent to a bill which, instead of throwing oil on the troubled waters, as stated by the noble lord opposite, insulted every lord inhabitant of the province, and taxed them for the benefit of rams. (Hear, Mar.) Lord CAMPBELL, in explanation, observed that be intended to say that there ought not to be an inquiry into each individual case, but that it would be the du, of the commissioner, to inquire, and for them to say whether the loss was a just lose or not. Eul ST. GERMANS opposed the motion. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE felt it necessary to mike a few re eke in order to illliftei upon their tort:Wipe the importance which be attached to this subject. Their lord ships were here called upon to show +nether the constitution which the imperial legislature had given to Canada was a substance or a shadow. (Hear, hear.) When a e deny hod attained the growth which the parent state considered as en titling it to the posses ion of a mit gave:mill coestitutioe, it was no loeger to be tutted as though it were still in leading strings. (Hear ) The noble and learned lord opposite (Lyndhurst) had throughout his speech assumed the whole questi in in dis pute, designating the measure before them as a Rewarding Bill for Rebels. Now he denied the% it was a Rewarding Bill for Rebels, or a rewarding bill at all. Hauls, sie far from being rewarded under the bill, were distinctly ex eluded from the compensation it contemploted to person entitled to compensation. If the Canadian Assembly did not represent the people of Canada. what did? Did theme woo burned down the Assembly-house represent them ? (Hear.) L-rd Elgin hod coulee out his government in a strictly cons a itutional manner; and if we were now to accuse the Fu soh Canadians of disloyalty or non loyalty we would be going a considerable way towards destroy ng the colonial in fl uence of this country abroad. He was for continuing the present government in Canada—a government is which the English and French were happily amalgamated. He fu'ly admitted the evil of a tyrant majority ; but he thought the noble so d keened mover of the present resolution was unhappy in his allusions to Mr. Pitt with reference to that suuject. He also admit ell that the bill in the present instance might have been more carefully and efficiently worded, but was that a ground for violating the constitution given to Canada? lie hoped the vote of that night would he most carefully considered; for the result would to tr♦ ry important. Their lordships were called up •14 to tote in direct opposition to the House of Cm:limns, the Canadian legislature, and Lord Elgin, but he smears ly hoped:that such &decision as that was not now to be recorded Lord BROUGHAM briefly replied. He contended that the discussion showed clearly that the interference of the house was oarticularly calla for in the present ease. He still was of opinion ttat the bill would recompense rebels and not loyal men. With regard to Mr. Lafon taine, the noble and learned lord repeated his belief that Mr. Lafontaine was in this country in consequence of a war rant having been issued against Lim in Canada, and that afterwards, to avoid that warrant, he:went over to France. He had, it was true, presented a peal At from Mr. Loko. Caine while he war in this country, but he bed never evinced any particular sympathy for lice. Earl GREY believed he was quite correct in stating that no warrant had ever been out against Mr. Lafor.tainee Of this there could be no doubt that he returned to Canada who n the rebellion was over without receiving any indemnity. It he remernheired rightly, the noble and learned lord had, when Mr. Letontaine was here, expressed his sympathy fur him and Lie cause. I" Hear," and a laugh.) Their lordship s then divided—. ClAt 2ntt—Pii.e4t Proxies Non-oontents—Pres us Proxies Majority in favour of govarnmant The h.use adjourned at a quarter past 2 o'rdosk. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Tussmy, Ju9'l9. The SYZAKU took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. _ . . - - -----___ SECOND READlNO.—Borough of Louth and Free Grammar School in Louth Bill. REPORTS CON iIDEItED. Lancaster and Preston Junction Balers? Acts Amendment (porters to alter tolls, noel f r apooin meat o' officers) Bill. LOMAS' AMENDMENTS CONSIDERED.— Lindon GAS Light Cusapway (an Ldment of act) BIS. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. BAIIIIREPTCY LAW CONSOLIDATION BILL. —By Mr. CARDWELL, from the Lverp of Guardian 13 iciety ; Mr HENRY, from merchants and traders of Liverpool, in favour of this bill. PAUPER CHILDREN.—By Mr. SANDARS, from poor law guardians of en union In Yorkshire, for the better edu cating of pauper children. ATTORNEY CERTIVIcATE DCTY.—By Mr. O. BERKE LEY, from &Conine f Cheltenham ; Ber E. N. BUXTON, f rom ttomturd, for v p al of the certificate duty. Lunatic Asst.' Ms I ScuTLAND) LILL—By Lord MEL OUND, Iron Orteneek, against this bill. I'ARLIAMENTARY AND FINANCIAL 8R101114.—81 Sir J. WALMELEY, from 440 ratepayers of the parish et Cite kenwell, with the addrefs of each perwm ctich .A,e( mplain ing el the inevss d burdens of taxation, living their b. lir f tha• the government of the coun'ry was earrieu on with at least equal ifficicacy in 1835, at a cost of ten millions len than at present; that unjuat taxation, and many othe-r na tional abysm, arise out of the denial of the people's admitted eoustitutiona right to be self taxed ; that in equi, the franchise should be extended to entry adult male, end pro meted by the ballot ; that economy in the public t xpenditure, and general good government, will not be attainad without them, reforms; aid praying that the house will take early um:urn fur their adoption. HEALTH OP TOWNS (lartanD).—By Mr. REYNOLDS. from perishes in Dublin, for en efficient health of towns bill fur • •••• •••--. NEWOATI GAOL f Dtrst.ri) —By Mr. REYNOLDS and Mr. J. O'CONNELL, from °Meets of this gaol, for prlarr compensation. SUPERANNUATION ALLOWANCES FOR Poole-LAW OM. C111:4 —By Mr. LASCBLLES, from officers .1' the Easing ' weld Union, In favour of this proposition. CotNTT Comm.—By Mr. W. FATTEN, from Cobe, Lancam ire, lot sr ctriau cf the jurisdit lima of County courts. Pools RATES.—By . Mr. G. ROBINSON, from Lynn, complaining of the intolerable pressure of poor rates, and praying for the adepti in of a unif.rin rate. Pouts Laws.—By Mr. BODGES, from a place in Kent, for the alteration of Ouse laws. MARRIAGES BILL —By Mr. F. MAULE, several peti tines from enneeportiors of free evirches ; Mr. BOUM DELL PALMER, trees some places in Essex ; against V.ds bill. 81:NDAT TRADING BILL —By Sir B. BUXTON, from tratiesmen aad oth, r inhshitants oft he ilbes of Christ Churel, Spitalflelds • St. John's (2), S. Matthias, S , . Jude's, and St. Matthew, Mile-end New Town (2), Norton Folga•e and Otd Artillery-grouud, and SL huts's, Chelsea ; is favour of this bid. STIRLING AND DUNFERMLINE RAILWAY. ' ! Oa the motion Lr the cousiieraion of the report on Ibis bill, Mr. NEWDEGATE moved that the bill should be n ear wi ted te toe former committee, with leave to sit and proeet d n w. day. The around was, that a clause had been admitted under mis.ppn het.sion as to its effect. Mr. W. PAT tEN thought some further explanation nee way. Mr. LASCELLES, tl'e cbairmsn of the ommitte , , said that though the clause had been bei...re them, they had not given a distinct consideration to it. The motion .1114 then &aced to. HUDSON'S BAY COMPANY. Mr. GLADSTONE postponed, till the 6th of July, his i motim on tiv state of this composny. I BRITISH GUIANA. I Mr. HUME porpentil, till the 6th of July, his 'notice on , the state of this colony. OFFICIAL DISPATCHES. Mr. ANSTEY in:jawed thd, on the dot supply night, I he would move an amendment to the matLn for going 1100 I committee, relating to the substitution by ministers of pri• vats letters in the place of (Saul dispatches. EXTENSION OF THE SUFFRAGE. Sir D. L. EVANS postponed his motion relative to the extension of the suffrage till the 6th of July. TRANSPORTATION FOR TREASON BILL. Mr. ANSTEY, in committee on the bill, to move the omhelnn o' the words " transportation for life or a term of ye•rs," nn4 the substitution of the words " imprisonment i daring the Clown's plewnire." discus.i xe of which it was desirable to bare u lime an att..ndance as pl.eible of gen•lemen conversant with the working of the poor law. There null/ be no objection, after there had be en an evening sitting, for the minor clauses of the hilt to be cer ridrired at a morning sitting; he, there fore, hoped the huhle lord would alter bar intention of going into committee on the bi:l on Thursday at , rnitir near. Lord J RUSSELL said he should be anxious to make the arrangement that would be most convenient. He would, therefe re, propose to go i .to committee on toe bill an Mon day evening next, and proceed with the remaining clauses at 12 o'clock on Tuesday. He would therefore moss that the order of the day for the Thursday morning's sitting be dis ebarged.—A.reed to. LEASEHOLD TENURE OF LANDS (IRELAND) BILL. Lord J. RUSSELL moved the first reading of this bill, which bad Jost been brought down front the otLer house.— Agreed to. VANCOUVER'S ISLAND. The Earl of LINCOLN said he had placed tie: motion of which he had teen mote meths book with vet y great regret. He had hoped, after the discussion of Int year, after the effect produced by the speech of the right hon. member for the Ur iversity of Oil ed (Mr. Gladstone), and seer the pro specie held out by the goys rnment, that this most fatal mea sure as regarded that part of the dominions of Great Britain would have been withdrawn. Strengly feeling, as he did, the culrebil ty of the transaction, he had been unwilling to press it on the attention of the house ; he bad helped same m - ant might have been found of getting rid of the difficulty; that he charter might have been prave4 to have been in formal, and in that case the government would probably have been induced to revoke what bad been dose and to adept a very differ. sat and more satisfactory course. It war manly nee, teary that he should disclaim any hostility to the Hudson's Bay Company, many of whom were his personal friends, and for all of whom he entertained a Sincere respect. He wou'd not meet that this company was w. oily mai- to carry on colonisation ; but, to far as the ex pentnee of this country bed gane, colenisatien by etc ntee propritto - s had wholly failed. On this gumeion, be must necessarily refer to the great colonies now eonstimting the United States of America. Public attention had recently been drawn to the subject by the highly interesting work of the hon. and learned member for Sheffield, and to Mr. Bon croft's equally interentine "• History of America." Fr. -m both those works it was clear, if not that all cempani'a were unfit for colonisation, at any rate that all absentee pro prietors wer unfit for it. The colony of Virginia was first wunted in 11.06, by a company of noblemen, merchants, and r ntlemen, restdent iu Lomita. A fairer example, an expe riment mare likely to succeed, if inch a system could itaire suns e led, could hardly be suppesed. They were men of high cta'acter, wealth, and intelligence, sad with ample means of carrying out their object. Yet, so bad was the mar age m y.t of the company, that Mr. Bancroft considered that the influence of the crown was the coly thing which =inter ned its evil effi c's. The colony presented a series of fail ures: it struggled on fur 12 yeas under thin management, and there were then not more than 600 persons ire it ; but after a charge of system, in one year 1 , 260 persona emigrated thither. In 1624, the system having failed, the patent was withdrawn and the company dissolved. The next attempt at colonising by a comp.ny was that of Maanchusetts, rn 1629, which was almost a copy of the history of Virginia. Ere ntually, the company under whose management it was entgrateu tam London thither; he would recommend the Hudson's Bay Company to fell ow their example, and go to Vancouver's Island, and then there would be same chard for its prosperity. Similar instances were found in North Carolina and Pennsylvania, while the proprie tary were absent. On the other hand, in New Englend, and other colonies, which were formed on a different principle, prosperity had dated from ne very infancy of tho cal-coy. They thurishi d exactly in jp, °portion as they adopted free institutions, and were celo-ise'd by par les who went to reside there; while failure was the certain result of those colonies estab lished by proprietors in London, which only began to ffour.sh when, owing to the signed failure e f the attempt, the eon minim had kern broken up. Hence he was justified in Say ing that such companies were substantially unfit tither to felted or govern colonies. If there was to be a etipervesirg poser at all, it ought to be the imperial government, and not the delegated authority of 'company. (Hear.) In supp .rt of this principle, he might adduce a statement of the Lion. the Under Secretary for the Colonies, who, last year had, yenned to the failure of South Australia under is original management, and the removal of its embarress nitnti when the Colonial-office resumed the government of it. IIAWES —When the debts were paid. The Earl of LINCOLN said his decided impression was, that the hon. sp ntleman had contrasted the state of the co- Way when governed ley the Colonial-office with its condition when governed by a proprietary company, and had endea. seared to prove that the payment of debts alluded to had bee a greatly promn'ed by the change in the se stem of government Tree tem pany of New Zealand did not pores% governmental powers except as regarded the management and sale of laud. It had been said on a former occasion that government saved a gnat expense by giving this charter to the Hudson's Bay Company. It might be true to say that demands on the truantry lead been saved during the present year, but he begged to remind them that they would probably be called on for large sums in future years. (Hear.) In tee course of lest session he asked the government not to complete the bargain with the Hudson's Bey Company, at least tid the charges brought spinet th e m by the Red River settlers had been Inquired into and the validity of the charter of Clinks IL had been asaertsined, what many peewits con sidered to he invalid. He did not mean to dispute the right of the crown to mike the grant, but there was very grave doubt as to the extent of land conferred by the grant in question. (Hear, hear.) It was meintaitied by persons well qualified to give en opinion, that the Iludgen's Bay Coca; aot• (lamed riette over hundreds of thousands of miles which hid never leen conferred on them, aced which it was never intended should be conferred on them by the charter. As a proof of that he might mention that France claimed a legal right to this territory, ;and although it was confirm d te Great Bawler by the treaty of Utrecht, yet if it could be proved that France had a 1• gal claim et the time of the charter, it unite riot now belong to the ceinjetey, because that which was not in the possession of the grantors at the time: of the grant could Lever have been transferred to the granter. Meer, he sr.) Tbis question had been float raised by the North Weil Company, :ems of the members of which were now members of the Hudson's Bay Company, who stoutly maintained the validity of the charier, which they had been the v ry first to call is question. He now came to the question of the conduct ut the company in that per ion of their territory, re.pe cting which there was no doubt. Ile would confine I,i, uhserratiees on this bead to the conduct of the company es it affected the aborigines. Two reasons heel been ape ei.ey mentioned se re.tens for court rring Gine privileges on the company; the first was the prohi'ini ea of the sale of spirits, and the attending to the moral and rel'g'oes improvement of the inhabitants. The Hudson's Bay Company had been charged with neglecting the fulfilment of these duties. Another charge against them was that having an exclusive mo nopoly they not only elected whims-et , price they pleased for their goods but gave inadequatentouneration. Anothercharge brought against the company was, that cans of murder com mitted by the company's servants under some species of trial was of frequent occurrence. Some of these charges seemed to him to be admitted b) Sir John filly and the officers of the company themselves. He found it stated in the blue book before them that in the outskirts of Canada goods wen said at from two to tenfold less than where the exclusive right of trading exste I. The sale of spirits was a matter of the highest consideration. In the year 1837 the Bile of spirits amcun'ed to 3,000 gallon?. In 11447, ten years atter. ward., the consumption amounted to 9,000 gallons, altheuth in the interval the ate rieinal populatin, he wee Sorts to say, had eiminished. (dear, hear.) If the North West Company, in consequence of the efforts of Mr. Wilberforce, reduced the consumption in their territory from 60,000 gallons to 10,000 gallons, no person would say that the Hudson's Bay Compel%) could not do ths same it they were inclined so to do. There was the testimony of five men on the contrary, former servants of the company, that spirits had been supplied to the natives by the company at several of the station. (Hear, hear.) With regard to providing for the religious and spiritual wants of the people, and instruct ing them in the Christian religion, Sir J. Peliy distinctly re pudiated in one place the statement that there was any en gagement entered into by the company to convert the nerves. All (said he) that the company could do was to prepare the way for missionaries, and to give them all the rib they could. But, on other occasions, when the com p.ny wanted to eb•ain any privileges, they did not ignore this obligation, and even Sir J. Pelly himself, in 1840, and again in 1844, aimitted in a communication addressed to the hon. geatl-man oppothe (Mr. Hawes) that it wee one offline duties to Christianise and civilise the native popula'ion. Sinn the iccoeporation of Lord Sethi's . ' rights with their own, the company had, it appeared, dine but little to neoursge fresh emigration, by giving to parties already settled there such rights and privileges es would constitute them free and independent settlers. From the period of the twofer to them of the Red River Settlement, this com pany, having an exclusive right to the trade of tee district, had prevent d the influx of any goods except through their own ships, or he ehould rather ay their own animal ship. P, ases this enormous poser, they charged the colonists such high freights that by that means they completely destroyed the possibility of anything like trade being carried on in the settlement, and thus aggravated to a frightful extent the evils inherent in the whole system. There was a land deed, which every colonist in the Red River Settlement was obliged to sign before he could enter upon possession. This deed made those who signed it the Mtn slave+ and serfs of the company, even more completely so than the unfortunate Indi ins ; and if that deed alone remained tine:planed, it would suffice to prove that the Hudson's Bay Campsny were utterly unfit to be entrusted with any colonising operations. (Hear, hear.) As regarded the mar nor in which the com. ra y treated all those who dissented from their arbitrary authority in matters of trade, hie right hon. friend the mem ber for the University of Oxford (Mr. Gladstone) bad, in the last session, re ad a letter from the company to Mr. James Simpson. That gentleman, having desired to try the experiment of a shipment of t Mow, appealed to the execu tive government at home against the exorbitant demands of the company ; whereupon he received a curt letter from the agent of the company, informing him that no goods would be shi; ped on his account that year. Wee it tolera ble that, for merely appealing to the government at heme, a respectable gentleman should be debarred from having • license to use the company's ship ? He could not better ex emplify the percent condition of the Red River settlement them by reeding an extract from a work having reference to one el the company's own servants, entitled "The Li'e and Travels of Thomas Simpson." le a letter to his brother Mr. Simp son said the former could have no idea of the curious position of the company ; that ever since 1826 the affairs of I the settlement bad been managed exclusively by the Hud son's Bay Company ; that the company sold the lend at 125.61. per acre, and pocketed the money; that they kept about a scare of policemen ; that in all criminal cull they virtually acted as judge, jury, and jailor; sad that the only good THE NENAGH 'UNION. On the motion of Mr. SCULLY, Pitons of the amount 1, of rates collected in the Nesmith Union within the year end-1 ing the Iva day of June, 1849 :—Of the amount expended in rellesirg the poor for the same period, specifying in-doer and out door relief : of the liabilities sod numbers charged to each electoral division for each mouth during the some period t of the amount expended in the hospitals, and in making coffins, and the number of deaths wi hin the same period : ena of the sums of money t apt nded in t'e auxiliary workhouse, called the Brewery, and the number of pei , ons who have died within that place since its opening in IN camber, 1818. THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT. Mr. DISRAELI said that on looking at the ordir book, he did not observe the tonal peinted notice of the budget, nor wee any date fixed fur it ; therefore the house was in perfect ignorance of the intention of the government. He had no doubt the intention was to bring it bower] on Fri day; but it meld be convenient and satisfactory if the noble lord would now give the assurance that it would CO3lO 00. Lord J. RUSSELL said it was the in'ention of the Chan tal., of the Exeheq see to bring forward the financial state ment on the 22 ad ; he thought it bad been se entered on the notice piper. POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. MONSELL said he found, from consulting several other members representing Irish constituencies, that it would be v ry inconvenieut to them for this bill to be di, cussed at a morning sitting, especially the two first clauses, which involved questions of great importance, and on the thing about the system was, that they gave him ( , le writer) a salsry of 231. for keeping their accounts. Lird Grey bad ap pealed to two military officers who had been stationed at t.t Red River, Major Griffiths and Col. Crofton, of whom, wi' h• out imputing to them i Ltereatt el motives, be must observe that that thoy had both been members of vtincil under the Hudson's B I Company, and that one of ttem had bt come still more intimately c.tonected with the company. At page 102, Col. Crofton pronounced the charge with respect to ardent spirits to be utterly false, observing that heavy fines were inflicted to prevent the use of tl em, that the com pany denied them to its CONN, ex uspt in c sea of illness, and that a small quantity was allowed annually only at Christmas, and on the occasion of a marriage. The evider.ce of Colonel Crofton was wholly discrepant from that of Major Griffiths, in 'elation to the distribution of spirits among the natives ; the former gentleman stating that under no circumstances whatever were spirits given, or sold, to the natives; and the latter complaining that, in some shape or other, a great quantity of spirits got into the hands of the natives. Colonel Crofton again stated that the native population had undergone no diminution under the 011112114C meat, or mismanagement, of the Hudson's Bay Company ; wherea- it had been di'tinctly affirmed by competent autho. cities that, since 1829, nine.tenths of the native popu lation bad disappeared. In contradiction to the 'silence of Colonel Crofton, which porpotted that the religious in struction provided by the Hudson's Bay Company was of a most ample anteater, the noble Ica quoted the Bishop of Montreal's journal, to show that the company maintair ed, for the religi..us instruction of their vast territory, only one chaplain at Red River Settlement, there being none at all at Hudson's Bay itself. (Hear, hear.) As to mini -narics the number had been reduced from six in 1813 to two now ; one of Mese being a native assistant; so that for the spiritual instruction of their enormous poaseasions the com pany maintained only one regular clergyman and ore Wes. leyan missionary. (Hear, hear.) As to education, not ore farthing was given by the company to this purpose, it appear ing, from the statement of Sir George Simpson, that, of the expense of educatie n in the company's territories, tout-fifths were paid le, the Church Missionary Society, and the other fifth hy the parents of the children educated. (Hear, hear.) Under all these circamitacces, it appealed to him manifest that the leading charges which had been made again:et the company had not been d soroved, many of them, on the contrary, having been clearly substantiated. And he, therefore, contended Out the go vernment had not been justified in handing over so large aid so important a poseraslon to the entire contra of a body which had shown itself so little entitled to such confidence, and which tad displ :yrd tendencies of so utterly an anti. colonisation character. (Hear.) The noble lord, in arostration I of the extent of tyranny to which the absolute rule of the company was carried, and of the Venetian mem, which they enflamed, inaltionci Coat Me. Dunn, one of their officials, was compelled to burn a journal he had kept during his residence in Vancouver's I-land, before he was :permitted to leave the settlement. The capital of the company was stated to be 400,0001., though, in feint of fact, the paid up capital did rot tscted 83,0001.; but, sapposing it to be 400,000!., the whole am unt was L.vested in the fur trade. There was nu proof in the •denuments la d liefore the house that constitutional rights had been granted to the British in. hate:tants of Vancouver's Island. Ile wee a firm advocate of free institutions—(e ear, hear) —they were an essential, though not the only element of success. It had been asserted that t to Island of Vancouver was given to the Hudson's Bay Com pany because it was impmsiole to culouise it. Viewed under every aspect, the arrangement made by Earl Grey was most impolitic. Ie was only recently, by the Oregon treaty, that Vancouver's Island bad been finally awarcea to England, and the first thirst England elfd was to confer it upon an anti colonising Company. The press had been univer vers ally and weinineusly opposed to the act of Lord G-ey, anal so had the Chamber of Commerce of Mrochester, which protested acainst Vancouver's Island being handed over to t h e Hudson's 13 .3 , Company for a rental of 7s. a-year. He a meted that the regular official course had not been poraued in this case. He lo.ked upon this grant as Mane laic and uejust, and believed that he was iustifi din avail ing himself of any step by means of which an investigation of these matters might be arrived at. (Hear, hem) Mr. HU was of opinion that the conduct of the colo nial stfi e in this matter de served a direct condem nation. Their conduct throughout had been most irregular. lla did not at all blame the Hudson's Bay Com?lnr, but he think that every ac tion of the C had been irrtaular and itnoraptr. Oa the whole, this apptarea to him to be one of the most unfortunate eircumit inns connected with celoni 'salon with which he was acquainted. Instead of the Colonial-office having made out their own ease they had left it to the par tite the and he foaled that either to ignorance, or indolence, or interest that colony had been sacrificed. Ile was sorry that her Majesty ha: been adv:sel to sanction this vote. Ito thought that it Rat a case an whi:b a direct vat. of censure should be peed upon the conduct of the noble lord at the head of the colonies, and ho believed that if be were enabled to poll the wheel country be should have Mu:- tenths in favour of that vote. Mr. Havons rem to reply, when it was obsolete" that there were not 40 members present. The gantry was then cleared, and thereLein: only 37 members present, the house adjourned at twenty-jive minutes to nine. THE DIVISION ON MR. HUME'S COUNTY RATE, &C., BILL.—Sir,-1 should feel mu it nbligett by your stating in your urx• pup r that I p iirrd in favour of Mr. liume's County RA'S :mil Bapeni!iture Bill with Mr. G nloard. Apologising lir the tr Mile I give you, I am, &c., PRINE PllTSE.—Buwot Park, June IS. Zht earortoil. OUTGOING MAILS. M tie for BABA Nueth America and the United State, will be made up on the eernie.g of June 42. The muila, via Marralc., to the Mediterranetn, Eitypt, Ct7lret, India, Moe-Noon, ae., will be made up on the 25th Juno. The nun!. he Vigo, °pinto, Lisbon, Madeira. Cadiz, and Gib:altar, will be mole up on the moraine of the 2:th ofJ tine. TM West India Yob, Judi:ding Bermuda. littanne. Neaate, don ha" New tirieana„ and Mexico, and ex:Aniline thow for Madeira, $l. Juan-de-Nieeragua, New Granada, Mill, and Perm w, be made up on the morning of the 2nd July. The mile he Madeira, the Brazils, and Buenos Ayres, will he naSe upon the evening of the 4th of July. WIWI WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. T_. 11+ • - MandLL II al. pot I. Anwrea. Xl MIL MD swkA/n. -Mania,. I EEL poR hi Mogan. W WE. pri L LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 20. Ir must be owned that the whigs as a par y have but a very ins( rurat perception of the great prin ciples of political economy. By political economy we du nut nt present mean the vulgar science of plebzran industry or cf international commeree. In these corn monp lee affairs it may be true, at heat fir argument rake it may be granted, that it is essential to p.rtna nent succor, to buy in the deepest Red to sell in the dearest market. But in the higher and more delicate matters of official favour sad parliamen tary support, in all that constitutes the prsper business of mere party, and that lends a charm to party triumph, or imparts bitterness to party deleat;—in the traditional secrets of hereditary wisdom and skill, it mend be confessed that the whigs , are but intifferent hands. Consider the capital whish every party, come how they may into occupation of the premises in polluting street, has to start w,th. Army, navy, and ordtance, lie ti uc, are considered, in a certain sense, trusts t i be held for the common benefit cf the privilegel ord.'s, without ref mom to the fluctuations of transient prin ciples or minor prejudices. They Bra the great ap pointed fund, cut of which noble and gentle idleness is Ted at all times, and order all administraticns,in quite an impartial and a kind of srovidentiel manner. A youngt r brother is not refused his commiesien, or a lawless seer his regiment, because the family always be I mgid to the " outs" and not to the " ins." Gene rally speaking, the patronage of the Admiralty and the Horse-Guards is treated as a social rather than a political monopoly. Still there are ni.e things and peculiar morsels, which, owing to human fallibility, must ever be more likely to drop into the !Ivor frierils than of adversaries: and so even out of these sacred resources of aristocracy et large, there is always something which a shrewd discretion can tarn to party account. But then there is the church, and there is the law, and there is the diplomatic service and misgovern melt of the cilonies. Here all is free. Personal fitness, or county position, are not the claims which any nne dreams of putting forward here. Is he for us or against us ?—that is the first (petition. Pie vinees to be done for—f reign nations to be coaxed or cozened—civil or criminal suits to be heard — souls of men to be eared or lost in an episcopal way—all most be regarded as subordinate consi deration to the greater question of contents versus non-contents in the upper House of Parlia ment, and of the numbers who are jammed jots the new versus the old lobby, in the lower. We do not wish of course to be supposed to say that in every case birth and wealth are not regarded as great quail ' (cations, and that as between him who has them and him who has not (party . ties and antecedents being the same) they do not infallibly tell. But what we do mein is simply this, that no party in power is ex pected to throw away, as it is called, the prizes, whether great or small, which accident places in its hands ; and an the Ins" and " Outs " periodic illy change places, there is a certain equity in the observance of the omnivorous rale. But when a mi nistry like that which for now three years has been in power, relies not upon its own inherent strength, hut upon that which from day to day it can obtain tram other parties, the course of its dealings grows more complicated cod less intelligible. Sometimes it bor rows; sometimes it is forced to buy. The radicals are ready (same think too ready) to give credit ; the conservatives insist on valuable considemti. o. And the strangest part of all is that when the unthrifty whir show themselves most lavish, they i..variably receive least in return; while those who render them the greatest amount of aid, are usually tr ated with neglect or contumely. In a word, the whigs appear to follow the rule of buying Hipp rt in the dearest and selling tl it favours in the cheapest market. The governorship of Guiana falls vacant, and they rush into the midst of the West India grievauce.m ngers to know who would like to have it. Mr. BARKLY condescends to trice it; and forthwi h the war-cry against the Colonial-office Is raised louder than ever. The Governor-Generalship of India is to be filled up ; and ate ightway they offer it to a I'eelite peer, whose graceful mode 01 acknow ledgment is to annoutce at a public dinner that, albeit he took their 30,0001. a y ear, he disapproves of their policy, and does not wish to be ithelerstcod as in any degree identifying himself with i'. To requite this, the wlegs c n the first opportunity make Lord DALtiousie u marquis; and we have not a doubt that on his ret .ra from ludia they will find him one of their moat determined, as they have made him one of tt,eir " moat noble,* opponents. The bishopric of Down falls vacant, and they hope that at least two tory peers may be propi tiated by thrusting on the episcepil bench an adver sary in pi inciples and a nonentity in the ct wch : and within a week toe two robe relative a vet against they on a question where their exirtence es an admi nistration was confesseily at stake. Ye t, ite.taught by experience, no soot or dots the tee of Lime rick fe 1 to their dispo al than they think it both discreet decent to ijnote the claims of the whole body cf the Irish protestant clergy, and t ) c nftr that lucrative pt et upon a man RhO was fiat known in Ireland as chaplain and tutor in the family of the moat bigoted toty chef Etc etary of our times, and whose only disliection had been one conf.re el en hint by the me s: trarge of former viceroys. But e - cle are other ways of seeking kuppore ; and, as is fitting, other ways of evincing gratitu .e. Some men an: more touched by confide nee evive..d towards the in in mattsra of moment than by p's cs c r pen- Biome. They love to be consulted ; still more to be ably to show the world that they are so. It may be all hallucination, but if it be. 'tis one Veich many share, that certain c” 'sons, not unknown to party fame, ha - c had signal proofs of ministerial confidence in matters where those whose fidelity and consistency might have been supposed to give them a better right, were left in contemptuous ignorance. Indivi dual vanity may, in some instances, have dealt in ex egg ration, but in others it is tolerably certain that woeh was not the case. Nevertheless, we daily see these worthy confidants suddenly turning mound upon the men who placed such edifying trust in them, and opposing their policy, ei Coutrance. It was only a night or two ago that we found Lord GI.VNGALL denouncing the Encumbered Estates Bill as robbery and confiscation, and, with Lord littotailtaat's aid, arresting ias progress by a refer ence to a select committee. Yet we have always un ratoad that his lordship was one of the most parti cular friends and favourites of thereon whom the re sponsibility must rested any measure of the kind. TIM ace unt 1 of the Board of Trade publishedg; terday ate in two important respects accept dole. Went ua, in tee first Ore up -n official authority, of a very prosperous condition of meat breeches of our commerce, and they exhibit, through the medium of a more lucid arrangement, and by the aid of more elaborate di title, the proms% of the science of statis tics is the department especially appropriated to its cultivation. This is the stcand month of the employ meat cf the new form of return, and we are happy to say that a repetition of the first effort has been attended with considerable improvements. The return of the oth of April (1,419) was a very doubtful deporture frem the o:d ereceeents. To be sure, it exe'uded some items which had become obsolete, sad made us agreeably acquainted with others which the peogres- of our commercial system has gradually foa -1 teed, into important NMI CeJ of employment to our population. But, while the eye ranged with satiatea tion ever the lengthened ca'alogue, there was abun dant reason for regret. In the first plate, the years of cimpariecn were reduced hare three to two, and, what was still more mortifying, the figures of the re turn put us in possession of the facts for may the single u:4e,th of April, iosterd of ler tbo month of April and fur all the previous months of 1819 and the otter marginal je Ira. We are happy totes that most of these very serious defects have 11, en co.eac'cd. Still, however, we have only placei before asa ret:osp:et of one year instead of two. We creme t spare the extra year. It is fre quently the most import e t element in the whole comranisoe, ar.d as its ire rtion enjoys so high an efficial antiquity there is every reason why it should he restered to its pope. place in these useful bulletins. We are thankful, thee efore, for what has bren done. But we are still disagreeably in the rear. It is now the end of Juno sod we are just informed of a state of things that ttrminsed at the commencement of May. An interval of two months his been consumed somewhere in arriving at a piece of information which ap! operly adjusted system ought to supply in less than as many daye Very likely the Customhouse does not coesider itself in any (special manner called upon to promote the adeancement of commercial statistics. The is the very lesecra why the matter sh uld be looked to. 'the puh'.e and the merchants have now become accustomed to the ap pearance of these returns, and there is a pardietable degree of impatience when the period sal deed is exceeded—as it has been in the instance of the return now in question. The test point to which we tut n in ei.nmining these commercial eccounta is the corisuepeoe by our ov n population of these ere et staple la. tics of foreign and colon:al jetecietee, beiume by 1 !IA habit, almost iniispereoble to the support of ate. The facts connected with a c .11re:1:elation of such cemmo ditities have more time one e moque-me. 'tn t xten sive demand for tobacco fir examples ler home use piety plaiu.y determines two things. The people who consume it, on the one hazel, hr.ve by so re meanie or other pexu-ed money they could. spare ter the purpose, and on the attn. Land, the shrewd Virginians who grow the Wheel, have re ceived in exchange some pro - keine ut 11, 41 in dustry and skill. In the ,o, the- acre, of even one article, you have a re erect indi x, at fur as it goes, of the rapidity of &reel iron pre v r erg in one branch of the internal acd extercal teed If yea sell more tobacco, auger, and coffie, yo I • 1111.10 i mere shopkeeper., more Ishii" and mute tact its. nt d y.. 0 consume more cotton, and rarr • of tee lob :e. Into which cotton has bean 114 inge •lously co, e td. Eu tertainicg these notions, we present th f l'ow ng figures with peculiar setisfac i sr), tut to c.l,taia, them we beg to say that we have had to travel colitildi rably beyond the pale of the accounts hefote ur : Enteml for Home Orptimpt low month., (n,O y". -- 140. 1 . :17, Ir la. Ogee flu. 12,121,00 0 13,844,00• 13,173,00 12,356,000 . lba. 15,214,060 1,75'0.060 Ig,1! 16,P1,000 1,917 000, i,90,000 1,913,•.0 0 1,608,000 =co flo, 9,010,00 ,, , 9 . 123 . 000 9,901000. 9,245,0.00 The consumption of coff-e nut sugar is corgi'" rably above the c msumption of 1816, and rifler below t`••at of 1847 and 1848—years .0 which there were special oltres in operation. After the extent of the demand for ttr , e common luxuries of the great bcdy of th • people, there is no more important guts:ion tha•i that u Lich concerns the extent of the dtmand for the m •ter iais of labour. We have satisfied ourstivei that the purple have teen fed, we must 11. at inquire how they uave b en em ployed. In this country it is kr:un it<ly th,. rule foe subsistence to be procured by ltb,•ur, so that in a great measure the an■ierr u eh a?pPes t • one ques tion very effeetuslly tettba t , :e other. bt:11 it is de sirable to tee the ev 7 dence in det,il. We are happy that it can be given in so complete a form as in the following statement tf the quantities of raw materials : Imported four months ended May 5. 1016 IB4+l . 1849 Madder Root . oils. 121,000 56,000 63,000 90,000 Paz 809, Thrown . lbt. 1 iti,o9o 94,000 125,000 264,010 Ta . low Turpentine....... 144,000 73,000 70,000 97,900 Cotton Wool Shrep's Wool In the present posture of the co i t a ticrersy abcut fire trade, the value of the-e figures ry gri at. They very p:ove two thing , . It'' plain that to ob tain ino:e of these imported raw r. aterieh we must i have ihrit away at lest an undiminished quantity of .ii . I