The Express. — London, England, 1849-03-13 00:00:00

sr- aim a treaty, lad @awed into particular sa d* ether Mae, dying we would give M ulimildil saiah privileges. then prtittgn te be are pees by than to es be a setae somber of pan. In skim all ease ern *op bin elepoi. la the ewe tithe Veined Stem all the pens. Mum aid lid *ll.l lMk th. tern 16 ==____ Gglie Whe d Lis We 110 .11111 5ina tem Er gew rawm•Y legbalky ad as etime2:be e peat ese l F lege. we nay withdraw eur bus the AM Matai without amealting her or elo SIN waked unealtiag us. The We tit he tiostybas =l= F a:r ate Jade ewe sew lies. saw. .. is 6 ,1 OA slushy hew dilimat The cuss iir bun ' of goods Myren* sad sighs maws duty; .111" V i "4 lI IW I r i l eia Pv" erre . OM dee mak sere D a m e i legisladen. M yeareeld If ''cell' . ulna isok s iso i s t se is e tep mom an ate. UMW States is , will ohe yin what sad everreing yea west When I heed the of the ' Presides el 111. and of Trade, and the is week be bine le lad with the owatiag wade. I madded it win NMI Is peeve Medial is that rime I think that any Aimee yia has of getting bow Amelia the Una of her weds trade Its be by edam pan entirely. (Hear, hem) It is not in he an , =that Anodes will hew handl by dine weak: rephilene leder width the *M b = to pis themmerise wade aid ea**. C l itly ellia pe=la I wilined eare le • maw is M. Welke ein? the mane edam's& la we • hired a as is skied to fedgeosts • ea I think we met weil smiles rthe aslisi eld,.beithand and aperlimble wheth mse ar iti ia the he le net worth two in the = l t still nen del that. I would new have a detest enpumeatimm AO& in., at Lust in the term el her we law, than die edges ewe et • minima et a padded who le dent la qdt Mlle ia a few weeks. (Hear. Ms) I ebb the larding of die Amebas aminned ee legliklin hely k me la be Maki Is IBM dry lewd I MM. the 104 sai. hi Mb they need il, andideas weaning aprobenlan Ilia the wise lulus lbetassainal IS MI seed peddmilid Media my led te mob* illindlin al their unle ad likely to be bundleiel to at. (Neer in tr i l I an d aloha that If yea get the wade of it awl be by omilliesal use vet =bliend ring e' Amadei le ad a Mint bow el Ma Me is the ahead rimed.. while few len el die peoleetive= Is vs/ Meng a mil although net se Sem ihr bar Wire. kw aranhetues edli. Mak it wail bo settee is ea to threw swag the alendege we sow lebi smh . go b s y Mg in Asada di the as ark aid pea in revs but the desheatientan evanineat elle • dile lasid••• Mew. WO It Is a Omni 11 . 1 . r made - den of any dd. thei mkt It ism ay aid • Mid tarliesedia adenent if the Tendon. Ise einvimell we has anise at *el dap in ear insidna Alin when we am del, am tb. analltior I have read, is pet Me ear while aidtallea ewe. I se as noses why the shine net nabark is year eaaaMg wade, If he an t r ai s t er way lad it, ion have heard ilas to denied as that the use; whisk pretest the mane :=ftilid wail sot be equally, it ass mire, Plod Ibi lineldkr, I :ca n, i to the in gs light km gedieenal that it dais net die end beg had. to traipse ; the II Ain the of the main wade—nee is batman Oman and Myr iad akin these impledem wee I was ahrign eight tom• dentend were did and modal MIAMI eke, uses whle it le year lamiabie role le huh% la the admit peedbie bens edema ad lamed 4nind pee i ir= t a l it iet, l6.ll lapikt el hi t . with tho opts' of desethaels ma with the et dam of poi, you would he la Ow pealed danger, or eke yea dad undergo the and aim aria maim if you al. ad duds the espesties el Ga pes. Thus, if you Mow a and to be taking in gide Onapaid— say, seem et limped, duty-paid, to wag ill sad at the sena thee Ada** team at net Asap* bin Assadas, I mast ands ad meet laugh' wilit so sae ham _ I hope the dye boa. pekes Se Peedded ti the bawd of Trade dine able to dhow ue did Own leyeallawat nay be name At all sane Ma plea haves lie watts, e Id* be eanykith tin sad lie *liner istille hi ash a state that I mot es lbw I AMA apse um to me it rewired swab: Pet of pwlemedhy diteanka. I do net bha die maid be the ewe if yea were content he me M the way in which Mr. Hulthem sad others have walked belenjai r k se s sa d paced by deditiesal legialatka. I bdies pa dm give a ..ary eashalet Mk= ashatien laws wed ha Bele dilysaser woad net bake sae these armlets to be andand. Bat I met satin lime is en .pant whisk Me en the whole opine*. plea I rememenal—the arganed as. • bon die Men dee Moshe lite derldhen- me bar ihr laiwilied (Mr. Zaideanade snob aliplak to the end Mel of Taws laths in Omuta; bat C li t i s i ek ilis a. mike drew 0 es Mem el the two house el the legialaso. (lbw beer.) Es entertels, I doubt lickaPant wiped de muilitaid anakeitiee ; sad It wee, I think, eineerhat Josehlied es by pit to peal by the ex pressed dew of the_ mud d the emery, of the sale making through their eqpneenhaine. (Hear.) Tao Montreal and Cadee based hale de not represeat the =intents of Came. Tim h a poeteopmea of ewe : the Inudients oftegel is the hedge hide repreend one elan el eadkunte; then in the lose bade arather ; and the sgriskidele mien ; while thane wha take as Mho ink s la Medal Mitts pro be represent a isaliseat pinta neepamial of the whale of dim, and pi* bend hen thew. But the yeah of to the neet anthentie reprem of tr a tehs a°ll4l 4l7aire the ainagedes of the asipilin laws ; sad I think then wishes woad bo mere mina madded by an memetienal abates 0 the stripes lave by the I hen propial. BM Matsui assient th e n w waist Ow nupolle I have to mks, rappet to a sere lied aM onsomisa, as fir or the WWII On sanneel. It with Meld has a afield' * de neseare as a slam of iddliallea. This is a poem ea whisk a gnat variety et nalleda blonde we to be einsidionl ; yea net main wins peke *Ma - bibbed leSewele Mime ad ton auk ate eavaihr km Air pa r be pimetins by the Menke ei tune Whedlefeinnersa. Oa these pose pa wend not be jaded lakaldagat the en afOnalabylkaM andsalegthet ea thatanseMpas enas T i=ilmoindblos ally aid diem emend Men DM itle ass sada re dab Mbar eialkainie of New Beard* b er g m they we desinzed, (liena Is no Min. the Weds diembeeth egyeat . = awe is nesembase with t tr aw l ,l=l law re oonneaded. The, sew k iddish ef thaela of 6e oi eammed at a pubis arm bid Of the thy, ball al the Mb of Ica Mt, we this La. . = i i 7 e, riar dean to the tarosse:—"Year pellikais beg base to retassat to yew met gneiss Ivey eat they an Indy of *mien that the newels is, seder the edlwWen dais imadal yard went, as inhodeeed by Mr. Labendien, Z ea leasa law, ein pens gessly pea Skid ea the BIM' mph% nod pw.wiy - to tlit laid eelany ; hews& as we le no reciprocity avowed is the pia prepand kr tbo abention, or rather the shrew. Ma dee beset ask _senora that we Is a. Mir 0 11, Mr MOSIZV IMMlMailin 10 bob 7 hydelifils fl• Ms wad IMMO, of es Medd ma imaidedd qua la is they hareem to ills am m 1 imp eamiatrade of the Hebei Men ei Assts, which Is ad. Mr be gives a a Beide ..year, miens Ow dealiegsede et 'OM Bite* be ionedui to ess deb le ad de. Making in die mann sapeow mar seeldenties." (Er. =it is pay s* that tbe pude of ago la tame el a gala of sedilked 110116. Mew Ike. AM in weed le the pope el Osaka Mae aid the least dabs, if it keel be nosebleed age Anil like a mind Millained view of thie oultset. mi sea war in soShts lea, ae far awe_ ean, the Mine* anted is pie el Canada yr= we an oak miming* . ether elms did pentium ea4 el bar the eau imie apity != l t a= g ro extend to them ei Tin sider him task, IP Weallway (Mr. Mks) bee Maki es an *Mien to Ile =lkanipoilly, that lardp eiadele Pia fihkg to as uotallik the Uaii ii :d e am t : la ear allay tint amplia, he anneedei asiaty tlhe whale am. la pet ell be it is the et the United , ems MM the deafens So to law e it le the ship I d the United eels whisk he lode in may port the weed, smiting with bin am laws 14 71 1.41inili k±f101 1 1- Warr, UM) I au pada* gadded that the Valid Shin has get emething of Innen Mu te give tee, a nest ealleds bell to spin he Beilleelys in ratan ; sad yea as get the trade et the United ads if you _will make the pee don el year colonial traireine Meal, and ad elbordee. Broamiag kin est Wad.; OM &tell!! et de manta we ads mei tea ea min -Istlaw wag Ine he mg we of our wade. Per i bele ad be Wis the elmermere. Wiese meg any tame urea them w e tIA Sisal wedd be dead es gelid to asa who has tinsel time aim at Us Mod aft. awdepollea of the amid. tea. Is angeoleg ear make with that et AI *ere an um Sponse llartieuhre-.-418 aye oared tepees of name% mad She Anhui' eiegew—la whisk OW mine ie eseepille of inpromniat. (Hear, him) Mit that hi ad al lbe advantego Mak I bas a wand skein et the rerioldo asa What le the elim, ia she word, ol km Is gamed not eon is parthrelek or Nino of sae matey sure . dm whether ? It is this le andrabige go with he![ eergoes where they wight has ell tit te mks lima go oat with a freight, and ems 1 he in ladle ease e/ eanyiag sawn bee was. alas lem.) It thus epees a panel taz spa UN 41,11101149 and latssivara of the med. week a Jadkiaus almelitioa of the aseignilia Inn mull do away We. The main ef argue mid Ilia be. spiatol by the natural Eva= i sinenw er e odi es sad we shine ant has epiabh al r to with Speahh sedum aseel*l espy, Milo skip ga in Bpda with MOM pelage end as bask_ _easy. (Hear, hear.) The anus lea penile sow in NeWiaidenal and diewhin. Is Med el Ibis, we amid haw 11. tamed saylly dableet elJaild sad propenhadi * the emadlet lb megies 6 as a end all the eannadhi se whiek the wail far the se of as maid be amid as died= 1 ressawatiag rase to the pares ad Anal voloso' dory claw wareia this soodai. (gm, bow.) l ist Medd llase is a' WU leghletwes the power li er stri 4a 111 = with .mml tow dukes she kedge wash is the MS I we me resee ceed =ha amblen al m a' risaL li teevel len the et Os beiperial ...var.* doss of dos anima,* e r the M. t ill wr a reee lat lieen monasoL d taut 4 Om Lam. pot why Medd we give the twee the purr et regabeg dee ewe wastlag ini blemionial wads ? Why spa lbe Medal iighlatirse to tenable whether or not a ledge ship my sail bola Halm to RAW I onticipste grief' kimille ease Irma *also this power in the bands et Mir menkl es . walla go far as my ea *COW the = g l ll The gambol of their owa akklet lert if the d se is ase O is the leg ishr i git te be kap ell of the hands end re. parikateareaE government, it k the esphalia of ell manses es beterma the minim and k slates. I palm the tied pr he i t ati r Ham lee ifolgoodll kiosk whhh k one molvesielip Mesawiselged ; but kg ea• Maim •en to ism hers to genie the mew ble jiise Iselin slabnlgeekstin parts there will of Pie bas ism wiliest's& of ems law nfram =ez istinokatheir geastrisi isms ef grime,* sad est of two difloaltiso veil etrar•44bg os aj eigstruslisa 19 be pen at the calcold lam me is to the essoative of this seentry, whiewit as eilier Wry to the or elm pea irk ban kat Venues mistime, se esnomeadieo to ewe hallatea the Weak' omernments sad the spas al bask' This magi lea to very gnat imeavisksee. lam d= fly th e ta iisal Ow abeam o( the goverement sped gaiket. to Mow what is the view tr ee = take et It I lewd it m a very likely soars, el tees ; eel I see as piens nests or advent* whisk shah' kad tho adepdsa of thie 11. ast seg why yes mad at deal mkt that sisal magi, mad lot esaesesrt tree es melt es Mk the net of the towage. Per sa, owa =goo se newswhy, Ilya adept this terser, and the of the elpearsen, yea should mike aay MEM. twos wismover. her of the liekkh waft trade, sr of the liesioa nabs trade. or of the boaraiski trade. The gewgas' en the eel y pans oomphist hem a ca. shave Persia a this very impute* palm. halms I think the bat mod, of dealing would be a teal sunder of ell restraint wimileiso, mike! only to the ma- Btka se a askew of advaboss flap segatriss. y gessesibo we sla hod* tei falisfy the slakes of ear own thipeuessels pia dPsim adds seat to posoote the peen of tho priselpbs game istenearee. (Hear, hear.) Pm I nod maw woman be very samba ahem the pepw el this. peindpies la ether mita ; I leas the time vela be bag hem they nein as fell tad &digest* rissookim es we said sewn theme 1 an wry kr fires sopeating el whet we have demo tier est ea lama, and with a view to the mmakment d B&W sleets, spin rams parksily adamomb. eel with wells kat entkely faddy my aid, yeti mast egm that the withheldim of SilpsM.bisapeatair is a grest fortaasmaily lather meariss, hatmo eon slim, and tithe pawl beam el So wield (Hsu ' hear.) And I am eumelfagly away, to pert with the pommion el an ia otraminit sa as at eavia laws sew peas in our bane, by it k, I bel, in oar power go = esly seraph bat met es p giestrele amedatien or metagemlones s woreay Moe, but flooly temp a law ear swat beak, so as to Mime thee—rg at lama whom It is to important to isero—looome to the desks at astabliallag Mk us a padastly flee (Him, hear.) Whoa the sight time swam I Mil }rte hotly woad to mama that time is Dekko la Mess anemia any way te imp& Me ot proondbe I lam moommed. As these as& arraign ea gemblism time go to meablish so malselel a kap fa the painipie of the mamma propessal, I have ihenght It whet to saiimear to state Ohm fully to the brass. I have, faked, no Men em et *kW • vote with regard to them fa the oom• mites; I airily stab them for my own sadiftlion, and to eisilkote my own principles. My Wallas was, to sheens the remake which they might beet is the MIN and in the country. I think that justice to the dipeast calls apos us to prima ea this principle —(femer, boar) ; bat I do not know whither the shipowna thinks se or am, or whether be is dimmed to award the eta imeavewale tomption to the seems I ban tried to shalt et h. bets Pm to the eba se the govoramont And I shall ha tat little &mai to take up the time el the beam, ad impede the pressodiags of pionimrat— m 1 sae bard to thick that a greet and peat shaege gook to be muds in the saviptien kirs—a it ma fir the selohmasot el a great prattled object. An Ms. mem ber bee given gain of as amenemat to be tasted la gam =*Mb =sr Pak* nisi the pates wham we eir kali at pasta by maditimal legliMisa; and lines woo thin bs ea oppiebsity o i t s = a the ma matter Inwood mein. At ell mealy 1 lissl dto k ft i, Hash it is by MO ads of memodeg that we shell Mbar the dielatie if emotions, ad do ell in oar power to mai* the dame of jostles. (Hear. beer.) There is ea ether mint an wide I will add a few were. Beare es plea of the mat meat was proposed, I mead leather it would have the support of all the patismea babas ernes attar the crows and moupying mats la tie Men The noble lord at the bob of the government replied that it would be sup ported all herlfejestes avant. in kis beam, with the emeption by d the hen ea bawl samba kr Hall (Mr. 101 l bi vossoly beim appear' le the perew cantmelies ; and the milk WI retired to two are—ose that of Mr. Wynn, who be slice with the hanks of following a diktat policy from that of the gmennat be bad joked, with mord to Alba Ast—the ether kb et lord La uda* who, in e ll llll,astadmed his hiesthe government el the Duke el anise whits he voted soda Romeo eathelk inmosipasien. I am that thme precedents wiimat miffing ins sush Mamba= ea think might be shown to mist--ele p es far twee& gap plying. al beet Isehnically, a pettlemestely abase= of the noble beta madast. that It would be as in a to mem i wish any saprity. &M. at it as a pada piellea, cannel bat thick is an enangemeat whisk aught to be notissi, to tier that it mai s Ehte mossisd. I the to ke lento kb whoa Mg tie. ak from the thyme lee seem mamba to tire Mom ef perliamme ie j o risokir semis le rebessee to a sale* of high esemlog with it the ma impeast ku Szer tat il = maskiness it k all well that Me airraule seal be divided in roped to ferryboat et to a opal har isi ter ti memmainde nogg& boa. gimllsnim o la his pm to the Meek slat, elm= intelliPlio. be iamb that by a el palliation to the pima navigati Muteasomedis bosoms Omsk ale We again might b. adagerel, No lea ma dealt the abtaalty et the *ft MA jibe maa ma thls causes but I submit to km fist kat de adoration wide repasts the genanion of the altar Mai the mother onstry as Involved in the emmigesmee off this measure, does eat well aspen with so famemelibb tibia Me the mkt of the manniente el a peglimbe Magee& le the world a divided governmenty— ups a apelike of imperial kaportinet. (Her.) With tempest le the Duke of Wolliegisaa.d Lord Lansdale, whin we easier whet Ink pees ia Ma, it is bat fair to MOM that the Da* of Winkel= was se ter aware et the stab of keels in the two halm of pediment that he kit be led Moog* le spore, ad. Was otmook to ewe, mad hobo genre ge the asimemat of his did set wie to mem a very all political einneakm. • If the able bad is equalty einilerat. if he is aspalfgemared that Mbar ample to mem bath Is this w - ad ha maim piers, then I seat amen that say views the pima ineiremismo sash ayeseseilog k very mask assess. DM If It he set mthee I most raft pat it the ad& lord that asking so musk Wimp= tits t o o of his sses=ei big ma se mat deka* irca dIS aril shag* to the japtiot of kb loges, or the ismimmialka tithe pessinesat, as the est that, with rapid to that =seen wtickyea IWO rigesetabo to nememy to the latipity the ark*, ad whisk paste sasaversekg to pus by this oansiinatim a the jee*mot of them eihe al be seism te It la another pia, yea are that yourselves ▪ meensider that memo of pear tins the wives_geo mahleg qpointema t ilialr ettela dim (, har.) hops I may not be dmitted es made, In tam or Mb any bike of Mew Wig tank the hos. reenligan who is the hommihis jest of mig emiterlo. Lindy bane, se ths alb led Ms, al e kb it we impamllde to love minis a hatter sopist meat, et eve that add bon bee _pretioslive Pear el wasp to the pales ialsoests. (Hoer, hoar.) TM asks memok (Grimly) tee spoke as a idn, night, lkaad lids seminse to the Th em heme, bend Oaf it add at be peetebta to ewes widia ea .4e Thk.l= l hes a wean to the nese eekml t &a ism o suggest, by proesedinifik Mom . imedimma / berths have before us. TM err ir en mem them ow moiety et ft, has tea wilds 4112 wale thug pew eat bead d nip boning Ms Ile beak Sam hes Cele nothing bat en ampaseted race GI • Maws s : s e d.a prograis d DiIM navigatios. (Heir, bast.) Thirteen, let me set be darted by these moue and dismay matideatiess at evil, whisk never bale bat wanting m ups ommisa—(hear, laser)amil whisk new will be weak& mkt, fa this a free state, mime em aerie& ell feat ems imp bathe masks, net may et his amt sells prolvems and his feats Ost sus be =by *see appolmanices from giving soft and swim emembelleak juselions esmaseted es those mts with the welkare id whey. (Ham. bar.) Let mriallew lies L is le wh ilig irms li f i f l og e s i nel=l a tlia b le i st lei t s"Slai libmbe be sakkat m through all the dengue incertablks ot the future. (Cheers.) . - Mr. G. BOOM= wailowilad that or allatalo il la tioa Oda awilgaella him trimald Do to at the a Laarlaa, and amass a liabilities at dot et I tale ; aad what sowarlty wadi than ba *at, illosi *a amigo was allesled. *a Babb *power woad be released boa tho disabilities sada ma* r ia l a rat laboured is feral& email& Us pair"; WM pat forward by tot pvs lame tWhat Mond a the path oflas tab, bat lathe aitawlagss sahib bail bola pleabed to as* bow _ idiot. ft bad sot Doss emoweed, di be eau* pada 1111 Owe* dm oratrary was the is.., TM Ma. goellima alma* the able Ind at tb• bad of tha gmosaniat to was baba ba =pall both tho amassolol lama sal die lkilfah may to the danger whisk they Iwe thesoball by this mama Mr. CLAY sidt a ray eareill pitioll of ado* all tat had = all ° 1 "II" as eft sabeetts bail sot led to aay la Ms abler; lad ha woad dm* seats the reaseassaite waalliadasalalett we i relelibili ". 1 naiad of** bOL So MIS Ilea Mk* me fill!' Mt 0 the has. aweaborbe Waribby .4i. Woes). that laws* at had es bola o w diraMiltir ma trill vor e feat onal so *ha to ft. It was lhr=st of tho fisaws of the alai gatioalain aot e ll ia lligudistitimieniblia did aottaila a HA 11.110 to dis sever Mohair aft** of the Ilardllbadt had era up *a fisa ef addogilioamoassital maw a wary he the royal arty. It lie bad, why did li i aital bast that British vateds sheiddlavo British maw a arida pro. pads of British loam ?If shipmate a 'Wan a allied serval s they shall rewire a aseasueift FM 18" Wby was sot tbo WI areotopsaill by other lIMINIFOI whidivere ataawy to give the shipping Waist Air play a di* wouipatitlia or which they were about to aster ? Hamm it adobe be attealpta to *game ibis faa, Oat Wald was drat to IM i la a had nee, sad the Dualoas 1 saltagra spa nd k t therefor* to M remora. The light dada *se ll be to some other quarter ; hew EXPRESS, TUESDAY - • , ..; • . ... 1 ....... =ix ~ . ~.. sup • • a fr the rasiztot .iiiro . porr - M. . _ o -e towthi sur fit tki estroiry. lllll l. 4 est Malted sibillier ta i r 7 t ier itze an - Iw.. fres ligisleilea wadi ask be bLeatt e. itglsisitia. as thatawier orairtseeriesi. 01110_14100111111 IMO WA* Zilla ibll essired seeillog et* deft. Ali n efit laws sight aresaried witheat begat* the sigol a rg i rge a oaral be eels say peittealer lateral. • M. I. FOR de/laded the tete be was about is give, immesh as it weal& beta meignat to the parley whl* be liwititheet. willterWar BSI, _..f fr" Ira"- T1 6 42E" of eaggassity wee arnecospretery Wows OM ill* frso wefts, 'ad. Wait it was rather polar tr. le sok lingind te a give ap sad amiss nothing rs ozogger he rdoeld vole @galore** bill. • Mr. MIIVWT. *ported * wan" fa thi . itra belief Sat IWO* weal& ass be reduced to say sinoggiologg nasal it erseesa. earl that the legitimate tale of Ike Jidda s ewasr would sot be Wesel! ; bat on the *wary that It wain pine the rate of freights sa • sore 'VC: bah mg breatt Edith 111. Mena' al that big was, mai midis as it wee 11111 ritelasifas fa pima whites IS was kakelle so trueiga. Mr. WINN reasmied die MI as beefs. he its object the arstreettea at PAWL &Wag, mai be elteuld therekee mat earsertly appear it. Kr. C. BRUCE, ea the groand that the measure would et serve redoes the meratatile nuke to a wholly lafesior con dition, and endures the miaow, of the navy, would vote 7eit, and Gaffed spat the government, and Sir R. Peel, kld power than the pvereseest, not to 'evolve the peat 'hippie' interests of the empire p ia the anis Ma width had Idle& apes the loaded Lamest Mr. WILCOX seseplsissi et the iatealleast the givers neat to retain the alms shish 'suspense AMA ship owners to have thsotudinsthe of their ems Mei seam a, bums& es that reuteletlas easease tb pestedisstses an =llthat while prolesies was take. away hest these 1; was still paellally gem to the atureastes iwurias. Prelleades had ewe bees the brae et that shish r was elasitis. The protein= width the nein* VCnirrequired wad against the Trisity-Hew, whisk t s ise pretense of providing safety far the assets, had established one hags system of extortion. Mr. IL C. HILDTARD said that the bill laths the he... had not boss very fairly latrakeell be thtthrt kn. gemdemmea epte, _when he mewed' the resens ea whirr le was tsssdsd ; fir he Ikea mat= thet the isitgation lam mthibiled the last reasset of as exploded pads!, gad he mad= to the fredrethrs behind his by stating that edema the bums was Stange seri= to seeds fres the policy adept= limmids ether bill sight boa. pathmea did not dialthe USA gees. The fairly by w ould own re whoa be abet= this line of stenos. H adeit that both the leibilllFDOTl of England and the West India pliaten bad mimed a mon opol y when foreign own and sager were shut eat by high protective degas from the con , ammetioa et He#seol. Bat la what way did the shipowners , enjoy a nesserly ? What restrictions were there alga the an g ierseat of capital in their Wainer ? Did not the ships of the Tyne compete with the 'ships of the Humber, iski did not Tyne, Humber, Mersey, and Timms ell with each oer ? (A laugh .) But it I C night le alt true, free trade exists in respect to the hane•hallt bet we want it to extend to foreign-built =The laws user did exclude foreign ships the hem teak of England. All they did was to pre set the =portly; British goods to the West India ,=. There was sea so restriction upon American ships . oat from Lisspeol with a cargo of British inane bases for the =eat Indies ; nor was there any restriction .epos their doing the sem thing to neutral ports. Bo far as gempatition ma emeneed, the foreignen were enabled to dew upon nearly equal terms in all the ports of En- Led, as would be shown by the evidence la the bin, books. He =tad why were they ogled upon to nage this fearful mmppmmmeat? They were told that it was in justice to the odemies; and last year the West Indies were put In the fore armed, but now, however, Canada was brought the most preeminently forw ard. He admitted that the government had long given the most unequivocal symptoms of their anxiety to get rid of the =Ogaden laws ; and no doubt that as far as the legislature of Omsk was concerned, they had encased= in obtaining a =amist from that body ; but he was yet to lams that a immtnial !tom Canada was to guide the fmpmial legidetare, mere emesially when the arguments employed were owe as that house 'odd not rely upon. The boa. and leased geademem the member for Liverpool (Mr. Cardwell) stated lia other doming that MIN correspoedent of his at ',leaped geode= a died time me a quatity of corn In ma Animism Mid. Befog a conadiatloss man, however, a= diewriging th at the core was Canadian, he appthled to the awthstilles at Liveepeol whether that cora night be eared fee home consumption, and he was tell that it might not. Now this had been Let: a= es a bard ease ; bat what did it amount to ? Why, to seething more than that the hon. gmthema's unespeademi had made the blunder of doaaselss icestats an Amerkan, instead of a el—aad that was the whole sheens o(which he . (Hear sad a kagh.) Now, with regard to the imeaserial which the right boa. gentleman opposite had pre saged from Jemeiga. The horse was aware that every me morial hem the imidelare of Jamaica ought to go through the form of a predene husky. What was the case In the premed Sebum ? Oa th e night bat ome before the legisla tes hake up, the& memorial was herded through the _hens =thug that hem sad it was inesedistely &seabed be :led to be WWI era in the prams debate. Me us that the =modal did aet, in fad, ragement the Wimp 0 the leghimaire La Jassies, ,and hen= m leriy theme neasems. These maths beim there was ea lag, whisk a asemesiel we headed, kb the grieemant of the ro de of hawk% mad la that mienedel the 'eleven= of =Lich Slimy sesisked mar Mani wrist*, b us not me we= was miatined abed the ameigellia laws. Nice =SW after there was smother mennial also minutely detellig their pavanes and in treat also there was no Quin to the na vigation laws. (Ler, bear.) The fees with regard to that memorial had beta dished by the committee of the House of Lords. It had the been elucidated in eddies before that committee, that as sass as the West Indians beard that the repeal was not to be main= to the West Indies alone, but was to extend gemerally, they saw that it would be an evil sad net a boos; busses it would be dads( Cabs and their ether groat rival fa a better peddle that themselves. (Hie, nar.) Now, with nines* es the pielsded oyages, the iambs* of 'gore from Pan bad been paYsa l arly ro lled apse. It spread from the sidemen en this petit that the wide freight *odd be IL, or es pilea ss 2l.,sie Ma more lima if there weer elicited • bet =Mike shipeweer gained by the protected hems fres Pere was he by the low freight oat; for the l= 1111$ 1: 1 mall take out masked of goods eassaiinted k We imatry. (Hear, hear.) The mann heiseee them the advairge of die low er rt. and he dialed the esavemer rid the high t home, beam% If was as, whet wag beams their ma mma =oat thin seers being required la jostles to our 'dodge ? Hs beim= that • eyetea of modesde import Adige is all media of esmeaaglim woad Neill oat of the Odor et the hedge pedals, a= would net askew the rise ea the esawierise et aIL Me would set rotor upon that =:ofi the salted, hawse, thethw than to say, that he that was the rindes ma la this coantry, and that ft th at gram they meet mom al het The right ho n. =7"llthe =saber kr the Umigereity of Oxford, had 14 0mesd that the prinstele whisk was dear to the Ame. sass was act that cited - Imaile,hat of proteadoe, mad that they sail taka all we would give then, mai weed bit us have mina' ia rotas. Now he (Mr. Iliblysed) asked whether this gauntry had not a sight to desplaia of the aenner in whisk OW amedations with Amides upon the sulret of those law had been earned en. Mr. Biaggi's words had Mee fgeely quoted; bat we had w amaranee that wilt Mr. Bea med remised woad be envied Late deg if we gage gave up ear =dram laws; and he Nana= that the bthe re peal* dine laws skald have Sawed the two leridares iii lessee mashed& abaultsamindy have km mend to. The hewn was aware that ace rd to the laws of the Umbel &Mu two-third. of the wale end omment to eery testy ; gad that to the ametion ef the leer of the Jest there mast be the mesas if the wiefilitlisidows. And he asked the home, after the severe wrest hr the Preakleset. ship whisk had meetly tae. Oise, based Aqua the wipes die Ogden if tree awls aid readisa, and =the hinith sated la favour of the team whether it was likely that the &seems worali mar paaa seek a bill as tbss present ( rte. g tithed Mew what , 7=. was S Z:V i r ililli ale a r ia : . Wicks ? The mists Led at the head of the liseeign dmni. meet bad written letters to a samba of states aeon the salrek sad most of them ade Zied that they had mot the • Mild *IWO lassatioa of a Mailer men to that ISIS Meek= wend Wilde that Rugs, paregaimest as C/ 1 ".4,.. he • ~.. ty of her gonads, wenn =mid to retaliate y sejoyieg se m he elld at preasat fall r ips ielaiith ei rl a a trade emememed? If Basis vodka= era it • that arse to its haadatimm and =lt volts nest other asides in run. ("Hes *a= "Oh. el:") Tee ; 1,111,1110 OM Or tallow, the remit past of it from 5/111111 mks annually into this matey • t and he pea=systemsea ia of Militias wadi excuse the Buma to itsgpm and woul d; skis thst emirs l e ast' misilmo. Me new some to bee great isoonla the bill itself, and * s e was w e* nor" to the emearien male ia behalf of the eining teals. He WU* Ida the sight las gestlemama Mae gle grade. trails et woad r elm b =tar N. ei nook nem kid memedem and ed am* mesh to h e r is on America; bet, lie soled, was a mailing trade of Upset AmniaMs gad of the et no incidents to this wank, e ? (ffsme hem . hew.) *dg _be r a sty impeded demansiat salleallid tea the Wale tee of the , Buil= litatie, by the umentlige their h liver impeedwienta, la the atrium ellsmen year* . I aebour and t appeared that ea the gam great lakes of Asides, sight dates wire matey dipeadmat for thole oseamanial idsrovaree ; sad that Me Ike domed et than eight Oates was mot leas than 3,000 mks. Ia MI the timer era these sewn lakes was WOO team. Is INII that ammiews ammo had it. ereasise 106,1100igas, and efeemse they mad net lint their eyes to the led that Amides wee OW nahkg Wet rapid =salsa. Apia the Misidept i zci._ ~ge dare were 7,000 Was a yen made& That had mew issued to 660,00r i s s es t rear, bra) ma nn. slates sad a Dope lati=o was depaileat spas the lassimia mat to their esmassagial iIIiONIMMIS. He now °alp apekaa of the blue cad the Miedmippi ; bat wiry hats. member best be swam that the oesetfai trade from Maine to the eattlatua eztruaity was inflabely more importaat than that :a whisk be had jam alluded. It was, then, of very peat importsoa, if coacessiosa were to be made, that we lima participate in their waiting trade. Yet by the 11b11- IG, MARCE ~L ~~ 1. eel& Vilna • b4S io lla• — 11 7: M I6 , bear.; i sea mall, wok . 1: 12 " 1 " ao WM aflari ' mike ORO most haperatt • whielethe easmaer i dal policy el tbis emotry bad rag saleseted. -- . ; - wes:onsprieed at the reeimeaty Af Me sibmiad e Zt sat dews, who said, what yea , e-e mon s IMlNki ez et illialt"ll4l Isms MOD 001.401. "Mb : *dolma us thsosiers to ell Eta ....la Woos Whisk we luta& Bad& .. hubs a w e — , east beim to We Wet he ta li we =PI not admit the elite of Raids. That was Ms aegumemt. 1!w was sunfishes woo =l: ir t " wit ;assail W the right has. patlema, Oa member kir Illmeassik who would shut oat may ship of this ennieleise whisk he mild shut oat without setaliatisa ; bat Do sales assesehat starriest at hieriag right hes. guelimeno the mosaber far Wood, who a having "leafy demonstrated she saheltief and aflame lam tented round sad said that we war algenation of this saisoldel and laconmaisom ..ii twit go fts 4 =alissistbsr manes. The *AI he.. whisk M tram the huh as W I PP alma st Werilisseeimit mid skit we ought me ft ha ete m it a y U sr eent= d n i tsibriag ua th dsT : u l a wsie thse mild abia...e.....1.4 = did thossoeummial may al the ditht . gentismn member fee Telmer* ; that he pee In . bit ailismisa to the repeal of the ems laws, and the admimien of Seaga OUNMI_oa oval bums with *emu of war oinks ; and Im(Mr. Haute) MUM ass midersand on what peeled he mild my that it was net wise te admit the shipping a otha ceentriss Wee them °Pantries ad mind ow. This Maths ams, as M bad sheep aesei=== es h:se l 4 Oa whim ar meat in &Om Kisses trade upuponthe Antrim laid dem l i the right henwarabie barenet, that it was advisable ornate, should bay •liisply. whether other wealth' alms to bay dam* er mil t Salim *sold net make ism palsy dimodsat sag.. Sr paw of Wm ementrise, bat pima is oar mu with the fan cenvistien thin if we mild net get all, we shwll get an advantage by adopting oar own gZey. He bad vaulted this debate very closely, and had i Ver to fled that uo new argument had been broughtd • all the old fallacies about the cheapness of =ilidp bad ' beam didaterred. In spas ti the lower lwillos• given ever and over again to honourable 'oedema, they would persist in wag that an Amara ship was built amps: than as Zeglialt ship. It was • matter of Isothomatioil demmateetisa that we bad sway eleaseat et delp-I=eliajor than thio Americus ; ken, sepper,thaber, sashes, one- Stied cheaper than la the Unita s Salm. Tim the; said that our mania wets not &mime he bam more ships ; that in the committee of the House of Leeds it was clearly proved sad attested by several wither= that the West Indies pre ferred being mama to Ecilish ships. The right IPS. Igtl"the samba for Stamford bad brought .• • reasoa why they were not injured by these navigation laws that they . were Iguana of the stalest altogether. The right km. goads man was perfectly right. It might be reseUeeNd Sat a committee was moved for in another plate, on the pretext that the seminithie tithe Hones of Commons bad not ismer tially coasidered the subject, and, accordingly, in the House of Lords, they undertook to throw freeh light on the subject, and teach law a committee ought to inquire, and the first six witnesses gave extraordinary evidence. Mr. Bosanquet, a West India merchant, and shipowner also, said that he was not read to the navigation laws; he was not musieted with tbs effect they would have on the local interest of the West Indies. Mr. Ellis, a merchant end shipowner, was asked if he had ever eon+ dared the navigation laws, and he said he had not ; he could not answer the question whether an English ship could go to the United States, and thence to the Wert Indies, with In American cargo. Then came Mr. Davis, • shipowner, who, on being asked whether he had coalidered the way in which trade had been affected by the navigation laws, said he had never particularly attended to' it; and Mr. Gower, a Miorettant and shipowner, said that he never heard of the na vigation laws until lately. The inference which was drawn from this woe most extraordinary. It was as if you were to ask a New Zealand chieftain whether he expenenoed any in commience from walking stark naked, and feeding on human flesh, and on hie answering no, you were to Infer that he was in the state in which he ought to be. Then it was said that he (Mr. Ricardo) had held that the mercantile marine of this country was of no importance ; that he had undervalued the importance altogether of the mercantile marine, and that a mercantile marine was of no advantage to a country having a maritime power. There never was • =ly net defended on same great constitutional 1 . When it was a question of corn laws, we heard of the yeomanry of the country ; when it was a question of the suga r . duties, we heard that the colonies were our great stay in time of war, and now the monopoly was dithisdiod on the plea of the maritime defame of the country. What be said was, that the neer esatilo mane 'alibi' chantey was In depende nt altogether of Ms of parliament; that it was our iinnssulas position; our daily entamistian with tholes who spoke our own lam inar and bad this same wants with ourselves; that the people wets nititrally • seafaring population; it was these things that andkellf mercantile marine. If it were not so, how was it that hams sal Spain, who had navigation laws more adages* lbw ... had, ha d no mercantile marine ? What he said WI this, that it was most dangerous that we should be deprama upon the mercantile marine (or the rasulaksi etas regal Amy. Hon. madame had several times quad the maden of Sir B. Martin, but his opinion was that ma waselis• of this nature °Man of the royal navy were age Ilio best qualified to give an opinion. Seem such planes then of Sir J. Stirling ought to be adopted. How did you mecums the mercantile marine by mem of the royal navy in she time of peace ? Capt. Nicolas stated that belag on • voyage from Chian to Valparaiso, and Marla, that a war woe about to take place, on his arrival at Rebut Town he pieked out all the wont men he had fa his ship, is the number of 100, and induced them to became 1 colonies. Hs then went to the merchant ships which hap pened to be lying la the place, and from those metebant ships took 100 men to repass these bad men. Here were 100 good men ipst, and the merchant ships were left sheet headed, without the mama of obtaining freights ; and this was the way the Navigatiou Act, in time ef peace, helped the ramantile nutria" ! They . had been reprearhed to-night.asod reproached tho other night by the hem. member ler Samford with the statemeat OW them woe no feeling in this country on the sub** if the owei gado& laws. And she hen. patinas. had pasted, with singular emplassosy, to the petitions which were laid upait. the table. A reproach of this sort ems with a bad grace from the other ado of the house, a for he rmsWsbi that had repromited others wving la the feelings and padres of the peopithle. h It would have bees easy to have slam the sailors how they were the met ill- Meted tithe made, daises of this country; how a cow pact had bees made with the English shipowner to ads tan that monspoiy, and that the sailors were the victims of this aremegmasur. It would have been easy to have into the manallseturing towns and hays atom the classes that the greatest east of every ariiira imam was freight, , and that therefore the prise of all luxuries was enhanced by this asompely for the benefit of sertain classes of this country. Bet confident in the goodness of their Me they had re *aimed hem doing what mild only have bad the offset of =dimension between the employer and the sm ile bad been emptied to hear the right hen. iambs, fag Sesenfeed enestes that no matter what might Mies with*" bill in the Hew of Commons it was sum to he them as by the Icrl.. (Hear, hear.) Ho bad nisiesslesd the right hen. member so to express himself. (Mr. limas ensile a gesture of diem) He was delighted se led Mat hebad misundentiod the right boa. gentleman, fir a was satelnly a most mitiesediery threat. He should not ter, treats . the bones, but would content himself with hi nioNeses le wept la committee any er nom=as bona if the shi which would with the pahelple of the Admiral 110WLES had during the discussion of last year expressed Hamill hostile to any alteration in the principle of the untied= laws, and subsequent experience had not tended to alter his opinion. He wee not inclined to pin his faith to the promben or mediations of hon. membtn op posite es to the blades to be expected from the proposed change, obaldM iltet dmiasz promises had been made for the menseres of an. sad the pretest nats of oar West Indian colonies Mewed how those promises had been fulfilled. He called Ike leverament to eouskter the reepsasibility they were iassuilti la emanating to abrogate the laws upon winnk see Ade wilekkais tfintent win founded, sad to re member that le this. sadist to individual members, would the nation look in awe the expectation now held out should end, es he believed they would, in disappointment. (Hear, hem.) Mr. DRUMMOND said that the right bon. member for Oxford Univemity bad called upon government to act in this matter ea one compacted body, but had himself set the:a t : r e m ba4 having spoken on one ride , while he ex his het el robe on the other. (Hier, hear.) e Drummed) agreed with the boa. member for Stoke, in alat the hill lad been hitherto dimmed, not on its AIM ea its details; but that might be acootmted Er Mt that taneiple of the bill was no where to be Mod ha IL (A .) It wu called a to reread a tell, sad Ike way in it proposed to amend win, by ab =tilts redeems°, altogether. They sould, tholudare, the palmist, of th e e sp b: ria ll e n epsilon of those who ersul it. The of all etatsmien hitherto had been la keep in minty as a asses of eseploplag hear, but the principle of the premed hill wee to key mild in the otrunVy, bat sotto employ the labour. (Hear.) They had beard in lieredare of a .deals 'Moot of poetry, end surely if there was a satanic Mimi of politics earn a Owl* beluga to it. (A kmgl.) It wee the remarkable *ramie of the present' day that every Mamas was obliged to set his own words, and to go agaiet fumy peiswiple width he bad ever 'risers M aelag. 8o that if he wanted an argument against any meow* which was brought forward, he had only to leek beak to hatter =of the prometers,—to appeal, is fast, hem Philip Philip sober. (Loughter.l They had beta far name years soder evil guidanes. (User,, hoar.) It Medd MOM as if, seconliag to tke ay* they were boned down to a rock while every sucesmive Waiter preyed upon their livers ad libitum. (A laugh.) Rs feared that the deetlafm of the country were about to be given up to men who ammured the happiness of mankind by the rate of exchange, and who coaceived that =Wag mould be good for the poi* which was not also good hr button spinning. (Protectionist charm) Those gentlemen bought their cotton In Attica or America, and having manufactured it in their mills, sent it back to Franco it Frenzh wines without having employed any E'igi labour throughout the traneatti in. (Cries of " Oh, th," and laughter.) They were mea, in fact, without a oonotry. The post ozdained, to if midair for an !sopa- Donato then ora tut* oral so dud, Wit, sow to WNW boo NY, Mt lo ay own, sty mate had Re Null mower that in Marmasater there were a Atm semi each awn. (Chew and laughter.) They, mai gay they, supporead ths prourat isseenre, bat he trusted that' how would be guided by baler esseela sham) He would remind them that dame bad beat a theq when we had a national faith, a time when we had—he war set afteid to ay it—a warship for satimemi, a reveres.. essi=ead magistrate, and an ainhalles the @Wien who had deserved well of that elowlep—a time Whew tho noblest wad we hod was " Rae Beffnemin"... (loud laughter, sad cries of " Sing")—and the sweatstools anthem la our ritual, " God save the Owen." (Hew, heat) Mr. LABOUCHEEE could assure the house that ha' was net at all disposed to bass hie support of the wen sent sossure upon cosmopolitan patriotism. Oa the contrary, if he were not fully persuaded that it woo Wean tageou on strictly British grounds, it should net have had his support. It was with dater, reluctance that he aria intruded upon the notice of the house, bat he hod beta on frequently alluded to in the amuse of the hissamisa, that he must main claim their indulgence. The pestles new bolero the house was the principle of the muienso. That primal* he apprehended to be—the virtual abendeasiteat sf war pre ant system of restrictions as applied to the navigatiom of the country. (Hear, hear.) Undoubtedly there were she details of this utmost conesquenos connected with the pastiest— duals as to the manning of ships, the mina don of ships and many others—each, perhapa ibe t- e volviag considerations of deep consequanos. details he traded and he was ours would naive all the attention they deserved when the bill was in committee. For Memoir he begged to repeat the assurance he bad before made, that though he had, in conjunction with his collespos in the government, paid very greet attention to all the de tails, he had not the vanity to swam that they wen. par feet that important altareas tied locreameeds might net be made in many of these in Om semen of thole tihearies by the house, and that therein whatever endes_ • might be made with that view should have his hth issideration. (Hear.) Bat as he had maid they were sew &deists upon the pri nciple of the measure—the abandonment of the a gees of restrictions. And in considering this princip he had first to iKairs what whore the main restrictive' of our =Anion laws? What were the fundamental principles ea whit& those nevi melon laws rated ? Those resisted'sa were of three Mods. • thew applying to the colonial leads ; second, those by which we endeavoured to escort to oursalves the carrying trade ; and third, those which had been emoted with the view to secure to us also the long-voyage trade. These ware the fundamental principles an which our navigation laws rested, and the more he considered the subject the more convinced was he that,.for the national interest, as well as the national character of the country, and, above all, for the sske of the prosperity of the mercantile In taeurtne the time had arrived when they should re those principles, and see whether their =oin tmene was not calculated, as he believed it was, to saddle u with a great amount of mischief. First, with regard to the colonial trade. He must say he was our =lat the manner in which the right hon. member for ad spoke of the claims which had been made from all parts slow colonial possessions for the removal of the restric tions by which their trade was now crippled and confined. In the first place, it was not starling a priori, now that we had abolished the system of protection colonial produce, that the colonies should demand the removal of the restrictions we had impend on their trade. The right hon. member for Stam ford bad referred to a meeting in Canada West, and stated that that meeting, which was called to petition in favour of the repeal of a navigation laws, ended in petitioning for the rosewal l o s izretection. True it was so ; but that was the only sue exce ptio nal case out of slugs number in which the imperial leg' tun had been urged by the colonists to abolish those laws. Another right hon. member omitted in regard to Canada altogether to notice that the provincial legislature, by a majority of no less than 49 to 14, passed an address urging on this country in the strongest terms, on the ground of the interest of the colony, the neces sity of departing from the principle of our navi gation laws so far as they affected the colonies— and that the minority of 14 who voted against that address did not vote for the retention of the navigation laws, but desired only to couple with the demand for their alteration a demand for the renewal of protection. Then the right hen. gentleman stated that the object of the Canadians might be almost, if not quite ' met by making Montreal a tree part, and quoted • despatch from Lord Elgin in favour of that view. But the right hon. gentleman forgot that Lord Elgin mad' that statement at a time when the navigation laws wen suspended, and ships of all nations might take cargoes from the St. Lawrence to this country. The only difficulty . than was as between Montreal and the mouth of the river, and Lord Elgin was perfectly warranted in saying that under existing circumstances all the difficulty would be removed by making Montreal a free port; but when the navigation laws came again into opera tion the difficulty remained as it was before, and could only be obviated by the removal of the restriction altogether. (Mr. Harries here made an observation acmes the table, which was inaudible.) The right hon. gentleman (Mr. Retries) then adverted to the cue of the West India. There was a name amongst the governors of the West India islands always pronounced with respect by hon. gentlemen opposite—he meant Lord Harris. (Hear, hear.) When that nobleman expressed opinions favourable to hon. gentlemen oppoeite they invariably quoted them, justly relying on his sagacity and intelhgesce—(hear, hear)—but there was no governor amongst these of the West India islands, who had premed with more perti nacity and perseverance on the government the importance, for the sake of the West India colonies themselves, of abro gating the restrictions which the existing navigation laws imposed. The house would remember what he had quoted last year, as to the opinion of Lord Harris, of the importance of allow* the Woad of Trinidad to have direct communica tion with the ports of France and Spain ; and only a few days ego a despatch had arrived from Lord Harris—he was worry to say that it had toms to hand so recently that it bad not yet been laid before this house, showing how the navigation laws, in another way, impeded the prosperity of the island which he governed. Lord Harris said that it was moat important that Trinidad should have a constant and direst communication with the Spanish main, and he added that a company had at length established • line al themes be tween the island and the main lead sailing ander ths Merits flag, but being all American vessels. "You coast believe," said Lord Harris, " the co nsequence to Trinidad which your navigation laws occasion.' In this as in numberless other instances it was in the suppression of trade which never cams into existence that the injury was felt, and the Pm& parity of** wittetarded. It was true that from we of oar other most Important eolcnies no groat amount of actual eomplaints had come--especially from those in the eastern hemisphere. But those who considered how Interested they were in • constant supply of freights at • moderate price in consequence of the bulkiness of their exports—as for instants the colonies of Australia and New Zealand, whose wedged= consisted chiefly of corn, wool, and such articles—awl ow what an interest thaw colonies had in the removal of the restrictions of our navigation laws, end must swat complaints of the gravest character to come from them also. He now came to the 'wit part of the prin ciple involved the carrying trade. Hon. gentle men camas argued that in this respect we were free :r the ela deaths( wz r = me colualrios. Those who 441 messily laid es table wadi dith i Vthat wee a amplete ashram, sad that amen sake up tide alai Br ui t i os 4S sasse psedsted is maintaining their present raftistioth would not anti= to treat with es on seek teems. He had heard ltai. gentians say _they aildicef the threats of Barsia, with with country we melted sa a valuable trade ; and one lea. sideman went so far as to say that Rorie had sash an Wane in maintaining that trade that she would net dere to retaliate us. Ns tins, like individuals, often sated born and tali% more than from interest, aad it was either with re gard to Russia or Austria, to t em the quition on any seek principle. (Hear.) The t hon. gentleman adverted to the case of Belgium, and ring pronounced a glottis panegyric on that country for protesting their own promety, and taking sere other countries did not obtain advantages at their exposes, he put their conduct forward as an example for others to follow. But if ths advice of the right hon. gentleman was taken—if all other countries adopted his principles, and followed the example of Belgium, what would bosoms of one keg voyage trade, of our carrying trade, and the rest of the restrictions we were forcing ape the world on these unequal terms ? With regard to the long reap trade, for a miry such as England, it would be always its interest too obtain the imported articles direct from the original source. And, generally veal English ships would not go to Havre for attest, bat Charlestown ; nor to Hamburg for sugar, bat to Cuba and Jamaica. In nineteen cases out of twenty this would be the course of trade. It would only he in the twee- Utah case, perhaps, that it would be our lateral to oe to the foreign port for the articles leased of Me pelts of the country in which they wore 'Oa the contrary, it often might, and did hippest, IC= the interest of other European countries to tome to Landes, Hall, and Liverpool for cargoes of sugar and tattoo ; but by ear system we were depriving England of thoa adv= erhbth pmewsd as a great general depot, without t f in ag m eecile=slaiaidt. up to iblif the elvea as mlls witi t :h ru hol hem the pais of the pretest he believed the mat hoed= of ad eras, that ear shipbuilding hosier would do. ON" be H we weld not make ship in this country might at ones be athatteed that we Gould make nothing dm. It might, with min Muth, be mateaded that it was haposable to carry ea a make menzistere in Enstead in the fan of a rivalry with other Radom. The duty ea the timber used in machinery, the excise duty eit bricks, the pressure of anther, the neoossif.of bringing fift raw mamba Om Or sas h ' es wOrlao might au lit me arsenates mime possibility of English men being able to 110111,061 with the miles manufacturers of Amides ; but with regard to shimbildiar, what grounds wire there for midi at apprehends'? We had in this coy the mode* hem ef timber of any country in the world; and, with regard Is the herein of force in the building materials for ships, there was no country so well of as England in that re peel (Hear.) The right hon. gentleman the member for the university of Oxford had pressed the government strongly to remit the timber duties, in order to give relief to tho shipbuilder. Now, he (Mr. Lthouchere) would be as glad as any honourable member of that house to ass the timber duties re moved, because he believed that suck a measure would be mast useful, not rely for:the shipbuilding iniesose, but the community at large. Bat he must say that !fibs government felt unwillinr, in the present condition of the tattoo, to make any breach in the timber duties of this country, that furnished no ground for the delay or postpone meat of the measure now before the house. But if the timber I --- , * duties were still retained in England, let it be boiraTh.,,,," that a committee of a commercial deputations had lei at Frankfurt, and declared that the duty a s h em Li" crowd the lost of a Palladia vessel built at 8 omit. (Hear.) He had already stated that he er4 ogr a „ confine himself to what he ermeelved ts h ' ' of 'this bill , but some armunats had bean usg thetsgrimat i; : 4 : l " ;:Lit ar b s / It u gitsfiortreehmeled.b4theinutenimairto:lltheldtblawa ich it n t o: ll4Thimmi . ..o . 4bl : to6 l4l4l , 4 bu 4. . ini rb s he took • totally difhrent view upon amp o question. He stated that he believed the right ..... 1 " 64 ample of r. Htukision when he the reel md , treaties, and to adopt conditional legisttton this i Now he (Mr. Lhouchere) confessed that he shoulat be surmised if the house adopted that suggestion. hear.) The more he considered the nutter the aeonN it (Bll4 was he convinced that they would take a most eh lo an w d ed. erna" such us a v p ie la w n of ! th an e r li hi c s y m a ust this d mv eny a l' t if as ts hon. gentleman had any right to quote the example It Haskbeen In asking the government to follow that, For, it would be found that the example of Mg. It told in a precisely «pposite direetien, and that he (M r l o b * 'here) was entitled to claim the authority of Mr. ma supporting the °ourse he had recommended to the smit h was true that Mr. dutkisson had entered into the red., city duties with different notions touching their equg t ,, — , but was that all he did which at the tint. pie adopted ? Quite the contrary. There ware reef branches of commerce which he, for the firsttime, nao4 threw open, the plan he pursued was exactly the corns ho government were now taking—namely, to ti to ththecrowa the right of retaliation, net t r a sill u neassearily exercised, but still reserving the right, -- order that, in extreme eases and when the interests of d m country required it, it might be exerted. Mr. Roddii took off the prohibition relative to the importation of us, from Germany ; he relaxed the laws affecting th e ou ga '' r a t w d as s; n a trer l ope he t p r b d utrn e ot trada witha o tan f thdien7larilesthist°, the at the game time introduced the principle of retaliation. fieo4 . Labonchere) had therefore proved that the right ho c . ► tleman was not correct in quoting the great 'tithe*, u question • but this was far from being the only obj ect i on entertained to the course that the right hon. genti ans had suggested. He altogether objected to the which would make a foreigner the legislator of this mu*, because he believed it was not our interest to make our sea menial restrictions and intercourse dependent on tho l e and ;Aware of other countries. That might be tolerated(' the ease of toe United States of America, but it weak e f t be found so practicable hen, where we had a colonial empire. That alone was a greet objection't conies suggested. The right bon. gentleman mumd to think that although there might be some dale*e with regard to tho colonies, the principle would inek well. He (Mr. Labeuchan) totally differed fthm that vim We did not stand with regard to our colothis so aega a countries did with respect to their.. We had a b rogeted the system of protection in regard to ie lonial produce ; other colonies had high diger a ti,' duties; and therefore the eases were net parallel. Bak* the right hon. gentleman must bear in mind that retslistka was by no means reciprocity. He quite agreed that it meld be moat desirable for this country, at a time when we were admitting other nations to compete with our shi p, to ag i s any course which would be most likely to induce thew Subs nations to deal with opal liberality towards us; bat s e doubted s hether the course proposed by the right hos. go. tleman would produce that result. The notice of an eased. merit had, however, been given ; and is that would bug the whole bearing, of this question under considers* a s would refrain from saying more upon the sub) et lag to bad an opportunity of discussing it again hereafter imeta mittee. (Hear.) He would not anticipate the delete AU must arise upon the alleged necessity of allowingongaide shipowner in future to obtain seamen from any/page of tie world, though he believed the grievance complaundof sodathis head was far more nominal than real. Them, 'gds , with regard to apprentices. He believed that taus*, shipping interest at large, no one who knew the feels et the ease could entertain the opinion that we were depriftui interest of the right to take apprentices. (lieu At this very moment, wording to the evidence if Browne, the Registrar-General, the number of appeals which the mercantile navy was obliged to take was rdem, and the number actually employed 33,000, shoeing ha there were 11,000 voluntarily employed, or more thao sea compelled by the restriction. As to the effect of the upon the maritime power of the country, he thought that as man could dispute that a great commercial can only sure foundation of a great military navy. Indeed I held that the position of England would be insecure Ws she had a large seafaring population, and men heti to the habits and hardships of a seafaring life,from wham could at all times supply our navy. (Hear, hear.) If to bill, therefore, was calculated to increase the commerce mi enlarge the trade of this empire, it must of necessity Wenn and encourage our maritime navy ; and if he could kin moment suppose that its effect would be to cripple oar con menial navy, nothing would induce him to supportit good deal had been said about the cowing trade; mins regulations respecting it were, he admitted, full of dificein But the question did not stand upon the footing now eh nial trade, our long voyage trade, or our carrying teak; and we could arrange it to suit our convenience. (Cris d "Divide.") He would respond to the desire of bon. ph men to come to a division by saying a very few words. Bs believed it was of the utmost consequence that this quern should be settled without delay, satisfied that suspense in uncertainty . were producing the worst effects upon the an candle marine interest of the country. It must be thast that the great majority of opinions had already decided Ito the time bad arriv.d when • great alteration is do navigation laws ought to take place ; and he hod that honourable gentlemen, especially these emand with that interest, would not interpose any come eini might delay the settlement of the question. He belies ft was best promoting the interests of that great else tie were connected with the commercial I • f the eon if he did not wait, as it was said Mr. Hinduism did, MO the Board of Trade was besieged by complaints, or math question was forced upon him by eireumstaneee,. panne* when be remembered under what aspect those arcumstsins might come, and bow much the complaints of our raindrop and the remonstrances of foreign powers might increase* difficulties of the question. He implored of the house, thee fore, to agree to the second reading of the bill, and coshed that he would be greatly disappointed lift were not nand by a large majority. (" )ear, hear," and cries of "Divide!) Mr. MUNTZ said that, coupling the speech of the hon. gentleman with that part dins bill which required three-fourths of the men employed by shipowners should of this country, he though the right hon. gentlemen NM have great doubts as to the effect of it. Now he dis Manta) was going to do what hon. gentlemen mil sralting on one side and voting on the An (Lughter.) But if hon. gentlemen would la to separate questions, they would not find that a very ion sistent course. There was a great difference haws* Questions, whether the law was justifiable as it stood, tai whether the measure proposed for its alteration wee he Talk of economy ! Why, who had ever gained by T m r, d fi o ni ub ng t redoneu'eeNethwe the fi re t P it a id o th fi t e le tr n a a d vig e o a f t E ion ne h lie ws h shi wffild rpis: a law ? (Loud ahe from the protectionists.) took from the shipownen, they gave to another ; as they taken from the English agriculturist to give to mob& (Renewed cheering from the same quarter) He had. Id to learn what saving had been effected by tier free trade measure.. There was a great disdains between a saving te the nation and a saving to dew Be had invariably voted for those measures. (Load I s2V To that laugh he could onl upply the words of Go l "And the loud laugh p the vacant mind." (Eh flawed laughter.) Show him the repeal of any duty the had wished the nation. No ; these measures only meth heed one clam for the benefit of another. In the gnaw joeity awes that was right. (Laughter.) la this iutass the change was similar—it was only a change of profits fres one hand to another. He hailed the measure as contsinirg this advantage—that it would take away the excuse With. navigation laws were the cause of the failure of all the odor ftee-trad• measures. (Muth laughter.) It ens no cols! matter to get rid of that excuse. He quite agreed thin was not just to maintain protection in one case and eneou it in all the other.. The hon. member for Liverpool 'Poke ef our large capital. Where was our capital ?He he lical of our being able to compete with every other nation WI: was in our land, our houses, sad our ships ; sad iftfiff adopted measures which would reduce the value of then no was not quite sure we should have the large capital retie He thought they ought to consider what had been dr.get ens of the measure already adopted. Take the cWz.o! sine. It we. imported at from 181. 10a. to led 101, 'a dd was made in England for 181. A shopkeeper in Birn!ing ham headed his advertisement "Effects of Free Trades_' 01 ° went on to say that he had just imported from Oar superior tools (a list of which the hon. gentleman nos 'f a eluding echoers, penknives, he.), and although at a aotlf 10 per cent., he could offer them at from 30 to 60 per " 6 " cheaper than English-made articles of the same dump An How. Mitunin.—lt is • puff. Mr. MIINTZ.—He knew the advertiser to be a suet w spectable man, not only incapable of such a puff, battening town:are it where,if it were a puff,it would soon be dfsteeaad For the last 25 years he had been competing with OW"' chant n in h o le o th w e n w to h wn ou , o 7 are, them ad an ce d ased in to duatry be with manly an exception, in the foreign trade. Ho_ now that trade almost entirely to himself; but it bad_ In so much injured by the competition of foreigners, 1 861 21 was not worth following, and was not worth iftlilditr altogether. (" Hear, bear," and l aug hter.) Sole rn' which he had formerly sold in large quantities at P!' profit of 12 or 15 per cent., now left only 3; to 5 per seats and would not cover general expenses and general we as was owing solely to the increase of manufactures ea?! continent, not only in quantity, but in skill. Some sida o_ l l_ ought to buy in the cheapest, and sell in the dearel s al het. (Hear, hear) That waa a pretty cheap or b l a s t cheap or dear. Take any article manufactured in kg! as quantities In England, and ask if there was a saving 0 .. r.; whichu t w t °l ob e s per cent. in buying elsewhere. On the contrary. It, lir: very often be found dearest to do se. (Hear, hear 4 .0."4 pose iron , which sold here at 101. per toe , could be Wes _ the continent At 91. ; according to the theory that weclo t °,l trachecatrapiteeantwcwhhithiclrtnigdee diethathingi a wing. Bet if, by buying on the continent, we : t lt_ot would he the consequence ? Instead of being chear.L.l would be infinitely dearer for this country. Oleo , and lands, and labour unemployed ; were unemployed, and there was no man cakable f ro mf,,o. ) them, though they existed to • great event a th sli% Th our is ai w in u es the case at preeent with all our sine iniGionw; that out the country. The answer to this Yo cato 7 the politicc-troonomical argument, " I