The Express. — London, England, 1859-07-19 00:00:00

• '/ , 7' .." - tafte 9-.1 / 4 ;.1.1444;;;;e: A.. ( 41-- - 777 r Ttt tr . r t 5.514, ; SSakidX:ei No. 4,033.) LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, JULY 19, 1859. (Stamped Id. Additional.) [TWOPENCE. tint increase, to take eine la England and Scotland, and sot in Ireland, however it might relieve the Ternary, it small be a measure of retrogretaion instead of improvement, whkili under no circumstances we ought to have re course to. We do not look. therefore, to molt or spirits sa the means of replenishing the public ia chrgaer. What do we may, teen, of the more important end more vital articles, tea and sugar P la Oa fleet place, sir, I may venture to impress upon the 0001/111U011 the consideration that we we not now dealing with prospective or permanent finance. but with the finance of the soornent, to make provision for the year. Ido not wish to tie the baste of parent as to what may take plans when It alma again alter the NOM, when it will have to face the great end serious question of revenue and expenditure. I will merely the committee that nee of the moot power- UP:e to arguments spinet meddling with indirect tam. Um is, that you cannot touch the remove derived from that source, especially what I may call raised from tro pical oceartioditim A _ wittiest a grut iaterfaranee with the course id trade. We hatches to a certain est ens in dealing gVIALANDROUM-0010IUNIOATIONItz 1 ra .741124 4 . 4 " tru l ekA s k rb ilfgt7)o3l ?SL PAW IL PMlllOlOlla4 imodes iseue kr eiblighil. gift. then grs, Mos. MAN" liolledr.Olais. sof •••sula.l,l thos...km isularmanes MO et nry ma*. ar • tif time. a lee tab sor nii terl. DMA. Ad" Karam 1•1.11 Om sad Wm= 1.. t., fiewial ell st wel7 roil. * WON= hf. 0 9 17 ..1 iM s =eas. 11/. lasississ&Ossik se ftional•pless. FYAL GARDENS, CRINGER& A OILAZD JUVION ILI MIL vggi lolloos Juroag. will tale 1.0.110111101 r, Mg IL TM slip punka or A. Jot be goootoil to at mom Owls. Mgt morgole NM non% dialling bi Illgrogeloo I-s rat mgroomelion lo MI Wog. Or engem torOormaroo rape (MOM It i o=rollr a rbe Ks - VIIMMAIM. nog rho oroolloto a she Mir . £ Vocal sag lgoloLgorsior I .rit gl ik osa alks4 lotorosioil glib lhoio from nos *ob. la l e Mikes. Dap sal Mold" Pgrotoilias. LW g Tim Iliogralca. go. ILO Worn foe Sops smog • • la sig of Os Itihmongsa ILI Pfrissent hytw..eaTimillm Jab Lord WENSLEYDALE add that although the labours of the reatroi-Moo bed bees most valuable, be did sot thiak them adequate to atemapltab the object is view. After a fow remark@ from Lyda CILAN. WORTH, and B101:011411 the eaiject dropped. Usk lordships adjourned at haf-pait 7 -o'clock. w ink ft was made. (Hear, bear.) I might also plead the nortelty and shortness of the term daring which we have held ear edmit, which tendered it impossible for us to eater late ' es minute detail of the expenditure. We came to the eau ef • of It with a fall conviction that the greet demand cie the house for military purposes—extreme as was the demand—wee both jaatitled and required by the highest Intends of the cunntry. (Cheers from the opposition.) When I have stated to the aommittee the amount of the ad metes, and the magnitude of the figures they involve, it is not that I intended to adopt with regard to theme demande, in any:l t esee, great or mai, an apologetic tone. On the contrary, know well that large am are the same, they have been • with reedhseee and exithusimea, and that if it maned to the government neoreary to make a still larger drain upon the confidence and patriodem of parliament, any call that could be presented would be as readily and as warmly responded to. (Hear, hear.) Bat apart from the exigencies of the public defence and the pulshe service, it remains the duty of government to consider not what I. necessary to be laid out, but likewise whether the expenditure of the funds with which they were ,trusted is wisely and thriftily canted out. It is the duty of government, on grounds of public economy, which no public exigencies can at aside, although unfortunately there are stales of public affairs which indispose the minds of men to dry details of this kind, to look after this, and therefore it is that I venture to submit to the committee that her Ma josty's government, each man In hie own department, should have an opportunity of conaidering for themselves whether there may not be certain items tot connected with the ' bottom or defence of the oonntry by which the burden on the public might be alleviated, and the country teliend, to a certain extent, of the charges which the heavy neoemitim of the thee imposed on ft. (Hear.). Another reason is this, that I hive not the honour of addressing you, aa le usuilly meg cevsporke abed/ bilaiel a rtiLer hoar than lira acfams bITILAM 0010IUNICATION between LIVER IN taw 1 1tir t inwrip .... ....40.9m4....._. Q .......-= irt.., . = s r osil ilionNie, bin kiVilt.ooL so Val KA O Oftlf or ISALTIMOSIL. Wolosoiko, /b 4.4 3. lAlot am doiiiii: irWimme4 E 7...... r. mai U golmosamordOta to Ilkomoomoiallos. b is =ado " =2 UolOoraMo wb rodui Womb el we sbooromoos Our. Zu. " l=l=dl2 riAllealifellti 0. wren EARRWELL to VAUXHALL.—The pablie to rewathillg Monad lhat ohs alabistet than et arelemera as album= it wady a rithlo* end h N. PI rthlfr , rel" IN oath* the theo el do ose, Is math It to asonoso Oh Teo. = A Z M. indium tun is tellei de* the thiele of the sad deartes the le *wet lottafor bathos wpm th lo thinfere hie thint btAr . . . rrin. for Mows therilei Ma th• the MOO list. tined* IMO* al Mr es* el Os pew % he la method le OPIIN the Illentetharat, Qs bad emote. the Yetberme somiln the lam ithrarks. the Ita 1011.1 C, OS IA WWII& d. LA M Ike hot the* Tbe 8 KASO N Ire! wedge of NI IMII ere If ■IORT hot W Oath itt aht Tspearem 'Wei mill. J* • Meth*. Jul, II; Trlday, July 12 ; balledex. My fh rod loth peothroty air for ewer ao. Wader. Joir Ilt =6 . 7 eh Drenthe=SM et Mr. fl. 50 * 5 0405 Am la ; ot I oak*. 50 *dad* roopreeso the t OSAN apply at th e *et at the *dam t en r tth 4 =7l HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAY, Jinx 18. The 8444414 t took the chefs shortly before ♦ o'clock. BRITISH AND CANADIAN TELEGRAPH COMPANY BILL. Vimennt DUNCAN made sons wrong remarks on the mottos of Inserting in privMs belle tenser giving the guarantee of parliament without the attention of the house being specially called to the arrangement. In the present ease the obnoxious elsoes had been withdrawn, but In ceder to afford an opportunity of seeing the bill in its amended form he would move that its farther consideration be post- posted till this day.—Aped to. The Tacatmahia Embankment Bill was read a second time. THE STADE TOLLS. Sir Id. PETO asked the Secretary of Slate for Foreign Affairs the staus of the negotiations for the abolition of the Stade Tolls • and also if the notice of the termination of the treaty of 1844, given by the government of this country to the government of Havover, had been withdrawn? Lord J. RUSSELL said that when be came into office be desired that this question might again be carefully conei dared by the law officers of the Crown. It bad accordingly bees referred to them. The government of Hanover being of opinion that it was &shuttle to renew the existing treaty for a limited time, it had been resolved that it should remein in force fqr cix months longer. Of coarse. ander those cir cumstances, the termination of the toll fall Cottle ground. with home produce, bat the interftreace with trade is far mere felt if we touch tea and sugar, which his to be Mongbil, so to speak, from the extremities of the earth. Of team it weld sot be en integrative ride in parliaaseut with tepid M ilwel legislates that to should not permit any interfweeee with the tide of the country. There is soother raison, which §TRAII to BRIMEN. no North Gonna Laspeapealeed owe Sosimmit NOW& Ofigdalit HSILMAIX. oNS inn of amdrdesailiNLY rat Pew: M. Si. rad lb.: Sawss.o liv=lalt. Pasimors mot ogle tide lib* at MISII.IIII W • oral et une. oft tvo. rot riuLt i ar. a tt a""ort000 la4 comic ACsod HlB HABITS.-THIS DAY, at qtr.. WIS. dr. din DILITIZ strait tsidid - d a sto Bygss• sadibimksid .-41 ks Ftepayby sad Ila Cts-libiss ma es M. It. Aim e. Me sad =Awl si MEI raw Okra 1 aim -My le damn Is epos dad, sr 111 II had dB I& Won. idna tram de Adh le IR . I T. tk m ilaiAl .. ii n im at ilin g tIMLFZI 0 7:= .6 12 Imps: or. aLTIMATION et MIELE—TY OMAN Mime es WM& sod Fortin Mom Moot llmokm I. Merl et the es ialimrloM W me.A QTEM to ROTTERDAM awl the RHINE. V•Tt;Wz."=';:il=Orga m irriri ;6017 3 ......twai.1::,= di lemma . Mom le iirlom)— ANL ml aa d . : C M la sad . et te. it la MI. 624 Ilia g. M.. ' Fratge e Lgias .... 472 ° .=. • e. TM Mir. MEM la ommillm oak Ibliblibm, Ism Mil day. al Gam WAYS AND MEANS.—THE BUDGET. The house having gone Into committee of ways end means, Mr. liliescr in the chair, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose to sub mit the annual financial statement. The house was not at the time remarkably fell; perhaps about 400 members were present. The right bee. gentlemen said—l believe, sir, it will be for the conveniences of the committee that I should follow the usual practise of making known to the camellia* before I proceed to discuss any plans or proposals of govern ment the results of the finance of last year. This need net ereepy any great length of time; but I will state to the ULDOI Ila inni•M•sms &nom.. •••••••.• of the twat,. ter wltka we lave to make provides bow, A.. llOrb 1101118. olds Adoittlemley. IL. NA.Tcnilbpsorrs TWELVE YEARE a a SOLDII2I LIM la INDIA. Batted by ht. Ilystlisy, lr . reL.,. h rer a /al TriazmartiaLOlNllolll6 STEAM COKMUNICATION with the SOUTH of 1111LAIID 'ls NiONA MINNA lirrool. DAILY 11111101 omits amps& • Tbo Ammo .111 DIN so yids, Dryd mei If AIItAIDILD rod lIII.FOR4Irolb lill . 4lS • rm. Wollorket LIA so Inn .14D1...oesfeol myna d Do Nolo arm of Me Ili worm BM I LIANA& bs. do lholl oas. DM dud looros. oo Die ger. li.S. promd by Lid flalliellin We = a = DMA. roadie e Asa Doi Is about II MS. ba 001111 M MIL RD AYS/ &My. ... 1.6 1 From Cora of I p ad., tr. ils Dro a &FIRM I.loAn.,dasnlioi raJoAr put as Y. of libil 4.111 pi WAN MIN DAD Podhirdoa. The Cult bleb dr so I. ma 1. NO PAIDFIDF 11 . h martin dombdolboo of lb* WIIIMINNIEWI For forsborroyllombro ants as ••• .4. 1•1117 . 4 1.L 1a110re : oir Is bloom lORD sod JACIWAVIL OIL D.O. : sod maws, molds. Itiford Mom; ..L barimes Pawky OEMs sod Td. Tabled. v, Thl.l2q, mew% 1... the CLASSIFICATION awl GEOGRA DIII2IIBUTION In . blow do 11/1•Ind Won_ *. Uolvonly Oambilip. 1/81. M e m Assooll: "Os dm Moak" rad 'in So Mor m ati I-- 111..0.." In Laws Owns. It Imam el the Ifstuallolm/_llsomeinset Mao Ili* Imam Lcoas: Jobs W. ream awl Opt Marl FASHIONS, WORE-TABLES PA■TTTE~RNS = iriatilttratilre Wit , lie faiddisils sled lisiwis Dili Imo • IMO 1 'mid. aid the ammo lon et dr Wet No taisft of , isii Aid 1 i• kiig di Lairs &wow. Ilediumied. FL Niiill3,. flosidiredi. ettmeel --” ttoellie eetimeies of inmate u they were propoeed by the eight bon. gentlemen the member fur Buckinghamshire, whoa he held the °Moe of Chancellor of the Ezeheque ERIRNDS in CANADA, INDIA, AUST RALIA, 116.A1l vile ben Lir Aloft Abroad flail Sem Os TV ItIWIEIPSZ end PIVIVILIII. TIMM I I le la llimiesilem and Wows*. bp %Mk lad dis West bier and the= Weft Wile la IL dam& fa lemisiolY=L —. o N. =llB' thstieg the year 1858; the actual reoelpt of revenue which look gimes when those estimates earns to be tested by expe rience; aid lixewlee the expenditure of the year that has said. The right honourable gentleman estimated the customs revenue at 23,400,0001.; It produced PARIS FIRST CLABB'pada. and LONDON PRIZE ai V ATIMIB7OII and II GOLDdII MN sod Union JIIIVINeir libanaanam. pamismoma. omabateas, .0. MIL AY anainsmos dem at ale dr among, end an aorenav 0 1 Ara IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. NIy ir !DDING sad BIRTHDAY PRESENTS. 1 111111 IT RODIIIOOIB 41. Peoadflir.l.loa4 1.424•114• 41• Vs moat ./ oftsurise CA I ` TiATILLINO saes. WISP MI WIN:IL. WrMs Ora. .16.4 m Oaro, Ilatk-044 WI IliP. MN Bap at III2OLAVAL 1201.1210P1D MY& LOPS caSII272.OVIMPOOKA. awl IS [ST 2NDS vs 41411._; Ikon 0.1224,W0rk„ 1142215 e. sod Ole. nom, Or 1111 W PATIO!! MIT CLUOI NO 10011S1Als I, a.m. • variety .41 ILLS° A SUM 2•41 NOVILT2OII soliallis fir rft/II4III2TATIoS. too m d oo r s me. somiso6 lobed sli 1 SODILIOUIId . 41, Plosriali. sr from -_ HOUSE OF LORDS.-MONDAT, JULY 18. This lordships it den o'clock. CHRISTIANITY IN INDIA. CHURCH RATES: Lei Foitrenaipremin periii;M:eined by 2,500 ponn a in Eerier and other Owes is the west of England, favour of tne promotion of Christianity in India. The Lei ad litsewoiniiisee pukka from Seet hed Sea seighbourhood against say alteration in the aymem et shank mien L a ONDON LIBRARY, 12, Bt. Jantees-aquart. 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It :r Wooer Wow Nor I VIMIsa — Tb w rlllaC= . l WI t M la lilt and MIL ANA N ACT of ORATITUDZ-30.000 Copies d • !Mai SW talis °"d'Mw~ *won aim holm len sessullr dorm el I =Va l sm 4 IS '; le limemzuless is ariefflA 17 4 . 1:= a 11 6 % 6 ..111111 blabE sg .taltiasjied he lie .. mime, I. rx/ifth ft... so{ fres eimmil" se mist d • w. Ill"."6 :1 tiri= ::=—Matis:ifffiewre. "l" llortsir Mount remeirme" DIARRIAGI WITH A DECEASED WIFE'S SISTER• Lewd linorsnian prasatool a petition Goat the haul* Inhabitant. of • limb Wocoestrrahire against any altera tion to tits law rospoesing marnago with • dossing title's mime LORD JOHN RUSSELL'S DESPATCH TO THI GOVERNMENT OP BERLIN. The Earl of iaLiikilitliffreee to7site Trades re speetang 'be anabeaUeity at a despatch slimed te bow Mon 6:ewe:fled ty Lord J. Mandl on the 22M et Jur last to the government at Berlin, strongly Mafia. diet oabioet against aay taterheeme la the war between Passes sad Am er"... He Li salted tbryworios barn, sod bad Lwow onowerad ao fallow& TM sotdo out was proowdlog to nod bon a privy& desesseat. whoa The Deka et NIWCASTLE declared be bed sever otters ills winiawhish the noble earl wee than Impaling — The Earl of MALMESBURY begged the noble dthils =; befewelhe eras quoting Sir C. Wood. (A kink) The a to whale be alluded was a long one, end Moss Meth es the Pennies government against may pa eta, In the wealentsitagst length into the rase= why ma paths prom moth be inethedient. The noble sari thessalled Is Neil the Ismatte, eaminseUng on It so be wont elm& sod ormenscot urged that the government made themselves eserneible for anything thet might bare followed. Happily IMISMI led ad evil eonsequences ; but still be wished is knew teylbet Ye despatch was authentic, and also vbraMir g.,.... ...t maid lay it on the table, together with the anew ef the ?maim government. He took that op =unity al imparting hn hope that Englund would not pan ary movies that might be amembled to regu late the &Sake esstinestal Europe. They bad already W • epesimea of the fruits of a congress, in the result of their mamma Is preenre a reform bill for the Turkish Prin cipalities, and be biped that the mistake then made would not to repeats& Lord WODIIIIOUSS said that the despatch alluded to wee in ealstesse eattratie, Wag • translation which had bundles way Isles Germ papa The teat, however, would be kid ea the tabby when their lordship would judge ho iimmalma As be asinine Prussia ta pees e a street =T, th e pima gemenment had followed Manly the ask yrellesesears in advising such a emus, sad thought, serfs ars dispatelue might be quoted =analyst, to thaw UM mesh maths case. The noble lord here quoted Lad Mathethary'sthaptch TO the present government, strongly urging nastrelity, and informing it that if Prussia violated wentrelity ales bad as amithara to aspect from England, bet moat mama to see her meet ravaged all 'bag the chores of the Bahia The wide earl had sent a similar despatch to Lord Ithealfebi end dlermode one to Lord Cowley, our taabtaatace is Parit lastratling him to Inform the French of the advice be had given to the Berlin Cabinet. M ir tr sits earl mean to say that neutrality pireoladed the British government from giving its opinion ? He understood neutrality to mesa non-participation In the war, but not a tots' wince on its merits. They might give their apialru, awl It was quits OptiOOLI with other goveromeota whether they followed it or not. He had no objection to give the despatch, which bad &heady been publahed in the papers, but he did not think it would be apsithat to publish the whole of the cermet:oedema Lord BROUGHAM hoped that, as we had had nothing to do with the Isle sztraindlnary war, or still more extramdivary poses, they meth take all the benefit of their position, sad ham sething le do with the matter. After a few woes from the Earl of MALMESBURY, in explanstion and I. defence of his quoted despatch. The Doha of NEWCASTLE defended Lord J. Russell's despatch, sad osmosis' that the advice it gave involved no noiststis of our sentralley, bat bore a construction far dif ferent from OM whisk wen sought to be given to it by the noble mil. TM Deals urn' own despatch went mach father, and' mu a truth semewhat of • roatory character. Hut GRANVILLE elm defended the despatch of Lord J. Russell, and pointed out that all It did was strongly to ad . Pounds against entering into the war. The eemereetion You skimp& Several Wade bib nom slinseed • stage. STATUTE LAW COMMISSION. Lord CHAN WORTH, in calling the attention of the house to the fourth mart at the ConDlidgiOClNS fur Consoli dating the Statute Low, enured in detail into the steps which had been takes, sad the results which had been se cured by :ha committees. In inquirisg of the Lord Chan gsha whit see the inhatiew et the goverment so to that commheles, be seggested that the commierlon should be pat seder the scalrel el two or three gentlerurn of emulous, welt a empetert Ms( at clerks, who, relinquishing their preherknel reeds, sheabl devote ther energies to the ao oesseliehment of the week to basil. In owe of such mg rise ben adopted, ha tbeaght the what meter might to • eatisfeetiory combseice in two years. T bf b s et i ßD CHANCELLOR bore testim my to the sod mid ability which be/ characterised Lord Cranworth and the 0110111*•1311. TM object of the coartolidation would, dad:t hem be hellitsted by what had been already done, bat be did set Wok that the object would be fad butted by costlesing the commission. He concurred in the enggeolion of Lord Crenworth, and (modem' that such a Mal of proforeimal nen might, besides couch dating the statute law of the Mod, be toads extremely useful In their legal capacity to both houses of parliament is emit- Mg members in drawing op bilis. He took the meant so- OOSSOD to IMMO that the government contemplated at the beginning of neat session to introduce measures oa beak ninety, ma the wangler of real property, on taking evidence l a the Coon of Chum', to consolidate ar.d inapt* the orders of the Lord Chantw, end to establish Bled assets, eo that roam of common law might be able to decide my equitatAe question which might Incildtatally arise. IFithOtt bandying suitors from marts of contents law to comb cd WPM , . Lord BROUGHAM amid the difiladdes of the efeellien were too gnat to be Avoided by • mixed meembly, and thought It would be better that tbe question should be solely ems mitred to a body Miaow' me m, whn might not oaly eery- Mee, bet pepper s Moat et it. He defeadrd Mr. Bata doe Lew hem sepernione which had been met upon him by t the labour which ft me 11 =. 1" Litr uM NARTr enew illbeagh • Wetemnpili wae mamma The but mune to e mbar le • sumemisl coucladon would in hie be brat is tea aka wassiMis. 24,117,0001. He estimated the excise at 18,600,0001.; it produced slaty 17,900,0001. He took the stamp' at 7,850,0001.; they produed 8,006,0001. The load and screed Lase he took at 3,200,0001. ; they prodismi 3,162.0001. The iooome-tax, which he estimated se 8,100,0004, exoseded that estimate by morethea hats milbse, and pranced 8,6 1 33,0001. The Post-office corresponds' almost precisely with the animate of the right honourable gentleman, which was 3,200,0001. The crown lands, which he took at 270,0001., produced 280,0001.; and the miscella neous revenuer, estimated at 1,300,0001., produced 2.125,000. (Hear, hear.) The miscellaneous eseecum, it will be in the recollection of the committee, its very &M -ath to eetimete with Fascislon, especially at a period shortly after the close of a great war, and whoa extensive changes ore in progress in the manufacturing estehllehm.ents of the - - - country, which lead to the disposal of old stores and the substitution of new OMR, changes which it is sometimes very diftlealt to measure beforehand. The general result, on the total revenue of the year, Is, I think satiefactory. The right hos. gentleman estimated it at 63,929,0001., It produced 65,477,0001. (Herr, beer.) With regard to the eerie: Mum, I don't know that I need trouble the committee by referring to the original estimates of the right hon. gentleman, became they were subject to certain =Alb:Miens la the course of the union, eupplementery estimates or new changes being brought forward; but I will state to the committee the expenditure as it soma 5...t00k glans, The charge of the debt was 28,527,0001. ; of the ted Fund &mime, 1,940,0004; of the army, 12,512,0001. ; of the 'levy, 9,216,0001. ; of the ciel undoes., 7,169,000!. The collection of the revenue, or the expendi ture on account of the revenue department, was 4,516,0001. ' Then there were two votes retrospective In their character — one for operations in Chins, 391,0001., the other some re maining expenere of the 'Uteri= war, 390,0001. The total re. stilt wee tn give tie expenditure of 64,663,0001.again5t &revenue of 65,477.0004; so that there was, In round numbere, • surplus el about 800,000!. upon the balance between the Income and the expenditure for the year. (Hear, hear.) The committee would probably wish to know what bed been the fete, so far as It am be ascertained, of the special perpoeals that were malls by the right hon. gentleman during last year for the pimple of Metering the revenue of the country; at the ass Ire it is dela that they should bear in mind that the against bee bees too short to enable us to pronounce con nsume the degree of curare that has &seceded those ;leaf es far as we are aware, the facts are as fel ee stamp duty of Id. upon drafts or cheque. was dedesied by the right hon. gentleman to produce 300,0001. ; sad lie augmentation of duty upon Isiah spirits, which was by the right hon. gentlemen is such • manner ae r ;atm • complete equalisation of the spirit duties in the three kingdoms, wee estimated to yield 300,0001. Neither of these duties has, however, as yet, produced the sum which wee expected from it. We have no means of knowing precisely what has been the pro dam of the stamp duty upon dealt, and cheques, became it is kept in • siege'e account with the stamp duty upon receipts; and the Gel, measure that can be applied to that portion of this revenue which is due to the stamp-duty upon cheque' is obtained by comparing with it the whole inc can that has takes place In the aggregate produce of the two duties. The duty upon rece_ ipts be. been a constantly increasing duty up to the year 1858 ; sad therefore, if, in 1869, we credit the duty upon drefte end cheques with the whole of the in crease that has taken place since 1858, that is, upon the whole, perhaps, the fairest mode of reckoning that con be adopted. The whole duty aeon receipt stamps and draft stamps in the year ending the 31st Much was 418,000/. The duty from receipt stamps alone, with the addition of draft stamp., which were formerly required in all mar where the instrument was drawn at • dis tame beyond 16 mike, that duty. before the commence. meat of the financial year 1858-69, yielded 281,0001., so that the apparent yield of the duty upon cheques was no more than 137,000!. But theft It is to be borne in mind, in the first place, that that duty was in operation for very little more than a period of ten months instead of twelve months; and, in the second place, that many persons were already provided with stamped cheques, for the pur pose of transmimlon over the country, and that this would fairly retard the influx of revenue from the new duty till new etocke were required to be provided. It is very herd to ray what that duty should be calculated to produce ; but I think it would be PPOOttIiM,S, with the information which we pos ses', to repeat an estimate Po high as 300,0001. I should think that 200,0001., or something lower, WA in all likelihood what it will be found to add to the revues. A question has been rafted whether it would not be found convenient to abolish the partial exemption that bee been found to exist under the law. Ido mot know whether it was part of the original intention of the sal hem, gentleman, but under the law as it stands it has lima that the person in favour of whom a cheque is desire is himself entitled to receive across the counter the produce of the cheque, without payment of the stamp duty. The opinion, I think, aleme to be, that that exemption is not I founded either in reason or convenience. (liar, hear) And I believe it is also the opinion that the banker. in London, with regard to the facilities of there'd*, would be decidedly in favour of its removal. It it not sa important financial operation, but probably ea • fiscal improvement I may th ink it my duty to make • proposal to the bore for removing that exemption. With reseed to the gretica of trials spirits, it is me of great interest; at the same time, as far as the amount fa concerned, it is a measure that has been attended with a lees degree of emcees' ; bat then it ought always to be reselletted in the first place, that all duties of that description require some considerable Interval before their operation ma be aeourately appreciated, and in the second place, that vas smesere of equalisation proposed by the right honourable gentleman wee in itself a fiscal reform, and a very ccosiiimsb'e improve- ment, u establishieg one duty only for Indeed, fireeland, and England, independently of its pecuniary result. (Hear, hear.) However, the pecuniary result stands thus ; 11p m Irish spirits, in the year 1888-69, as compered with 1867-68, we have only an increase in actual money of 86,000/., which but • very small portion of what might have bete expected to proceed from that mime. Bat this duty did net take effect from the tint day of the year, the let of April, 18;4, but from the 17th of April. Between the lit of April and the 18th, when the dry boom, thee were delivered from bond In Ireland, though the Want wee only about a fortnight, no less then 1,129,008 gallops of spirite, or a quantity equal to two roatir roseraytios. (Laughter.) And if we charge the &dating duty upon that quantity of spirit. which is Wyly due to the amennt of the year, inas much as it formed part et It. that will add 103,6001. to the &5,000 L and give • total of 111111,0001. se the produce of that addition,' duty Ire the rat. (Hoar, beer.) As far as we can judge from what bee taiga ghee slam the 17th of April, there Is a gee pent that dr duty may be deaskterably productive. At els Warne time, It is hardly passible to judge of as augmaiiatice of this glad spa ordain if esersaip floe, where many interests mix with and truants to &certain extent the procesdiuge of parliament, and where the result Is degestbst urea coesideraticea ol season and the apply el taw MOW; eb Fee it will air pensibls to form 4y judgment epee the bid results of that measure until another year or two shall have elapsed. That is the state of the ease will regent to the re venter and expenditure of the year thee chest at the 314 of March, and with regard to the meathres proposed in the era sion of 18.53 for the perpotte of providing a surplus revenue over the expenditure. 1 come now to the more grave and melees mitt of the task which is imposed upon me, and I hen to lay before the committee in the first Instance s tom perative statement of the menus and expenditure fir the year tbet has now begun. The committee are already gene rally awn, from the estimates that have been laid before them,—in the first place ' that the expenditure will be unu sually urge, —and in the secoml place, that it will very °Do idderably etceed the ways and meana which the ordinary revenue of the country could provide. To commune with the enigmas of revenue —The costume are taken to yield. for the yeesr whisk conanienoed en the Ist of April last, and which Mess en the 31st of March nut, 23,850,0001.; the miss, 18,530,0001.; the amps, 8,100,0001.; land sad seseared toms, 3,200,0001. ; Mamma. twat 5d., 6,600,011111. • the Par-offiee, 3,250,000/.; crown Linde, 280,0001. • mid Obi miewilawous receipts will amount probably to 1,530,46161. In that ales, I mays well sta. there Is included a enw, , with remst to which as definite arrangement has been wade. of 1800001.,which it is more. lam probable that the Comeill of India soy pay out of Isdianmense, in order to obtain a site en which they may erect buildings for the transactios of their berms, is lien of the headings In Leadenhalbstrest. That is ae item of uncertainty so far, but it is not an stew of unarthinty in the general balance of revenue and tepee diture, theme the mosey will be reimbursed, if the plan is entomb:Led, from the Indian memo But the total of these item is 64,340,0001. It my, perhaps, be of some interest to the committee to compute this animate with that of the ~21. 18t W hiwAintlemen (lir. Di wit) which mereken Wen.; lettlrrth . etryttem which the right hon. gentleman himself proposed. His estimate was, as I have said, 63,920,0001. The admits I now mast will give as about 420,0001. more the the esinnate of the tight hen. gentleman. Bet I cannot say that there te any evidence of striking or extraordinary progress, because that 420,0001., which cat 'thetas the difference in the estimates, is about the sum which appears to be provided by the two mall taxes which he imposed. I sow come to the estimate el expenditure for the careent year—the estimated revenue helmet I bgve said, 64,340.0001. The charge of Ch ef enad =fended debt for the year will be 28,600,000. da dslt sum there is in cluded a particular Item of 406,0001, which consettatee the last Meson on a metre ponies of the Lam Amer.', sad which sill have to be met on the sth of Jimmy next. It le a payment entirely exceptional in its character. The com mittee I. aware, that as a general rule all dividends, whether upon stocks or manatees, are paid half-yearly. But in this particelar melt happens that • considerable por tion of the sensitise, for which the public are liable, and which have their half-yearly dividends in Apra and October, expire not at amend of the hair et: the ad of the odd quarter, so that that quarto's payment beams due is respect oethat portion of the aunties on the ith of Joinery, whereas if the annaitlee had continued to mu the pelmet upon them would not have been made till the 6th of Aprill next. The ,fact of this will be to throw upon the ways and means of 1859-60 a sum of, in round numbers, 400,0001., which in the regular mum of Wage weld have pained to the debit of 1840-1.. The first Muth therefore of the caseation of these annulate is to • lestossed burden on the financial year. But the of the funded and unfunded debt will be The charge of the coneolidated fund will be . ; of is army including the militia, 13 300,0001. ; ol the navy, including the packet service , . 12.780,0001. ' • of the VS service and miecelleneoes, 7,825,0001. ; of the MIMS aportetsoter, 4,740,0001. The committee will °b one that thwe is • very considerable Immo ht the ogre- NO Merge of the mimellawous estimates, comparing those el the mend with those of the peat year—the estimate of the preset year being, as I have stated, 7,825,0001. ; whilst timed the let year were only 7,169,00.0. (Hear, hem.) Without attempting to inquire into the detail* I may des the principal heads of inane. About two mew ago to passed the house which imposed • - heary burden with re =re County Cour Fu, the t d wit ery irtirilrerzentaassulacres:. 0 7erfell01. In the vote for public education and art ewe ea loosens, of 200,0001. The vole for British repeeente 42,0001. The vote far Chine, Jame, NM 111.1-4 new woreintance, which appears here for the fret Ilene—(limghter)--represents 25,0001. The vote for the Feeetp-office, includivg sits and beildrg, 200.0001., and italss lookides the 130,0001. which I have just spokes of Ml* l dent Rom the Sot Indian revenue. - Lastly, than I. the con of a submarine cable to 011tralter, 116,0001. This le, perhaps, the place in which I should rake to this subject. The late government entertained the plan of endeavouring to manufacture and ley down this submarine cable from Eng land to Gibraltar in the course of the present maw, the es timated coat of which was 250,000/. ; the con tract had been actually made before the present government come Into office, for the manufacture of what, I Whew, le celled the core of the cable. That cad h represented by the sum of 116,0001., as I have Past Mated. Upon • °melioration of thewhole matter,which wify be there gervethrntly discussed In all its details when the vete l• Wan the hence, the present government, taking lath view as the main element of their decision the advanced period of the year, and the extremely narrow margin of time daring which toe present flue weather waa likely to continue, thought It would be vain to prosecute the plan of swing down the able during the present season. The effect, therefore, le that a smaller sum is asked from the Lowe than would have been asked If the pleas had been proceeded with during tho present yew. It is the price of the eallis under contract, which comact we found In mune eimiention when we entered into office. The total of the hem I have Meted as brag an imam In the minelltheous adore, le 667,0001., and if I bike away some items of de mure by width that Is partially balanced, there will still mask a total amount of foci,... In the mis estimate. mitmates of between 580,0001. and 590.0001. Let we new proceed to consider the miens item at ampeelliare I have pot together. Whereas the estimated news of the year will amount to 64,340,0001., the esti mated expeditors of the year will amount to 69,207,0001. Subtracting the smaller from the larger sum, the result is a gross deficiency of 4,867,0001. (Sensation.) That is the sum with regard to which the committee will have to con sider the question In what manner provision shall be made to meet it. (Hear, hear.) Now, sir, before I miter into any particulate with regard to the mole of meeting that charge, I should with briefly to draw the attention of the com mittee to ono or two general considerations that ap pear to me to beer on our proms position, and give it somewhat of a peculiar character. I rink it is plain that this Is a time In which it will become the committee, In making adequate end effectual provision by those means which they shall think most comtormable to the public in terests for the wants of theyear, rigidly to confine their atten tion to the runts of the year. (Hear.) The reason why I my this is that no one an review the estimates I haveleid bar foes the committee without observing that they protest la no inconsiderable a degree anexceptional character. (Hear.) The circumstances out of which they have grown see with. the knowledge of the committee, and without entering Into the details of theme circumstances, I may ay, in general terms, that they are °Snowily anch—l speak especially of the state of affairs abroad—that it they do not within the next six or twelve months grow wee, we may entertain • confident expectation that they will grow better. (Laughter.) The estimates which have been submitted to you-1 do not with to conceal the fact—Mar this ambiguous character, that whilst they greatly fall short of the sums which you have been called on to vet, in times of war, they considerably wood say am that parbamest has been called on to vote Ins timed peace. (Hear.) 111 take the eetimatee of 1858.9 as a 'Mallard, I find that they present the following features. They were not considered to be low animates. Lut we may take them for the purpose of illustra non and camper...in with the estimates of the present year. In 1858-9 the sum voted for the army and Mitt. mousted to 12,010,0001 ; for the navy and packet mei" 8,890,0001. In the current year instead of 12,010.0001. for the army and militia, the aura voted is 13,300,0001., whilst the elm voted this year for the navy and whet errvioe is 12,780,0001, so that yen have an increase el 1,288,0004 on the army animates end of 3,892,0001. en the naval Mutates, making together an segmentation rather higher time lower oa them estimates, of 6,180,0001. (Hem, hear.) That mew be considered an exceptional rate of things from which I wish to draw no other tearoom than this, that the present time le marked out same in which we ought sotto busyour selves with extensive projects or comprehessive pleas, Mt should endue oareelthe to the duty of reeking iffetheal pro vision for the manta of the year that la actually coenalaceel. (Hear, hear.) There ere other droametanose that greatly read to meraborath the thaw otheluelim. He xi year has teen already marked out by preceding and forme parliaments seaccitical we in the history of our finance—ow therefore, is which it must be the duty of parliament to Mar upon a comprehensive review both of our system of taxation mad likewise of the scale of our expenditure. (Hem'. beer) I may remind the committee that, during the east year. by law the 11100M10 tax will lapie„and that at the tame period certain war duties upon tea and sugar, which bid teen pasted k these years from 18.57 will also. The dimappmethe of them duties will male an ultimate Mimes l• the esuiple of the Treasury and the expenditure set 11,0111,1011. Oa the other hand, next year we shall have the Mithalege (tithe felling in of the long annuities. and It will be thee* of gweitearth to camider whether they will endeemmia mob . 2. 1 1.6 14.e . in white • dendleg one per maleilscoffif et will to to the country. en era te meth that bee been dame he the benefit of the push, er whether erg 08 saw thins 1,000,0001.1 e be drown lemedeeil Me O. genreel wets of expenditure. ef glemeel by enthallag ene mate _by the by SOAK. and thather i bl oo , ooo & 2 (tesz, kw.) Theme imietesetions eo the mind of the eammiNee the Warne whisk her Mir jesty's gotheesethe le =ppm that the plellele eras asILI time when they =ea le raga ovotPudge glimmt should cootie. themeebreer • theeparery geraidea dimes. provided it wee soma awl good with roped the tine el at *iii,l i ti g i as tieli orTiour llg o ctl yer enesintes can ran d Wm ( 82d i te lli rse dv : ask the er e e tee to ° what male el enggli Mill se Tweet, ers ag to enable ore to meet the bfilai7l6ll.ll as the year ? (Haar, boar.) Of course this ryes- qrsiam aNir Half tats two branches. The first quid= hi, riell we aSemo to meet the deficiency by bor rowing ter by tecogis f (Hear, hear.) The committee will Ma so consider whether ft thinks this is en °cession on which he shealtmeert to the expedlacy of a loan? The mum required is istermet 4,000,00(.1. and 5,000,0001. It is certainly a large am to demand from the tax-payers of the constr., at es sheet • make, hut on the other hand it is a cum veld& hes weer driven the British government to the expediency of aspeenting the national debt. (Hew, hear.) I think we en needy speed In this question, that in • time of pace nothing less then some due neaesity should induce us to borrow. (Hear. hear.) Whatever doctrinal may be theoretically held, and by peptone of high Who - Sty, with re gard to the hollity with which we beer the burden of the National Debt, I do not think any man standing in my place would with so to apply them ato relax that sound and mealy feeling which fills the British parliament with aversion at resorting to • loan in a time of peace. (Hear, bear.) There have been infancies — rare and exceptional Matinees— in wild pediment have thought fit to resort to borrowing in time of pease. Two 1 may quote, hat I quote them begging the committee to bear in mind the extraordinary dil igence In the eironzatesom. (Hear.) I. 1835, I think, the government of Lord Melbourne borrowed 20,000,00 W. for the pupae of negro emancipation ' • but that was a service which marked an epoch in our asked life, end had so sasexion with meeting the ordinary expendi ture. Again, in 1847-8, my right hon. friend the Secretary of State for India effected a been of 10,000,0001. for the of meeting the frightful visitation of Providence in sister Med ; and though it wee not impossible, it would be badly potable to raise by taxation them= he was obliged to apply for the purpcm d relleviag the distress oc casioned by that calamity. Thew it. ones in eillonnt and principle entirely differing from the case before us. They are different in amount, because in the as. ow it was lour times and in the other twice that which we new have to a-k at your hands. It is different In 'Maniple beeseas whilst one related to • great and extraordinary vie teaks of Providence, end the other was for • met social iswhich could not teonr ; you are now tali celled on to the empsdilture el Op year, hkh, themes Large, is and needful, and Me alleresce to the present year and the time in which we meshes lira. lam of =I ant I kegs the committee will be of opiates, that we LA, =kr these circurostancee, resort to a loan (Hear, lbest.) We me bound to coosidor end take into our view the gusellen the audition of the country from time to this. I mast engem my Ss ersvictkin that there never was a period when the people of England were better Dotted/id of the Mak* end nemesty of the demands that ere made on the public parse.-that there never wee a time when they were more Mile to best end more willing to meet those de mands. (Hear, hear.) I appeal to the hearts and under standings both of those who beer me and those out of doom, who will consider our dienusehme and debate, ' whe th er we should tot shrink from our duty and disgrace the memories of those who have gone before us if we did not provide for the yenta of the country by the resources which are within our command. There is another man that I may slightly glance at which indisposes me to beams • borrower, and that is, that I do not wish to be a competitor with my right hon. friend the Storehui of State for India. (Laughter.) I wish to leave the geld free end clear for him. My right hon. friend will have to make en addition to the 'measures which have been already taken to meet the exigencies el the Indian sm irks, and I do not wish to hamper him in his ope rations. (Hear, hear.) I have spoken of a loan, but we might meet the deficiency by a more temp. vary method of borrowing, and et • charter date, namely, by an issue of Exchequer-bills. But if there ear was • time when it would be inapplicable to have recourse to that mode of meeting the exigency it is the present time. (Hem, hear.) It would nut throw the hoiden on • comps- ratively remote date, but on the year 1860 when the ennui- ties will fell in, and which are already burdened to the utmost without throwing this additionsl burden on them If, then, we Sr. net to meet the case by either of then alternative., we have to pee on to the foriher question whether, lf we determine to meet the expenditure by taxation, we iall have recourse to indirect or direct tasation. (Hear, hear.) I now ask the committee to consider this subject. I need not, however, enter into any elaborate or detailed inquiry— very few comments will suffice to dame of this portion of the question. There are certain articles which offer • very obvious resource in indirect taxation ' and I will advert in • few words to those articles in which alone you could hope to obtain rapidly and effectually the supplies which we re quire. They are articles which will present themeless at once to any person who has to engage in the &agreeable talk of adjusting a scheme of finance. These *rucks ere malt, spirits, tea, and sugar. I coshes my opinion end that of all my colleagues is, that it would not be deatable to prupoes any higher duty en malt. (" Hear, hear," from Mr. Ball, end them.) I am glad, ele, that I haat carried cosaciatios, at lest, to one anxious and wounded spirit. (A h.) 1 will frankly own, more frankly es I made the prvad myeelf, that whet' in time of war, foe the purpose of great national emergency, we inmessed the duty upon this article, the cum realised did not answer our expectations. It is not an elatic revenue. It amounts to • large sum, bat it le not one which we could here reroutes to, to meet any sodden emergency. On the whole 1 tbink we may best follow the dictates of good sense by not proposing farther to increase it. The next article which I will;mention is spirits. Hon. gentlemen are, per haps, aware that in the lest few weeks there have been large deliveries of spirits. It appears the public thought that somebody else thought that a pro posal would be made in reference to this. I do not wish, sir, to make any pledges to bind (owe years. The House of Commons bee of late yeas uniformly proceeded in one direction. The prisciple is that we ought not to lower the duty on this article as much as the revenue will beer, that we ought to raise it to the greatest possible amount con sistent with the prevention of fraud on the mane. How for that can be done is • question which ought to be postponed to future years. The committee will reoollect bow very snores.- fol for • series of years have been our &slings with /phi duties. From the year 1863, when I had the good fortune to take the first step, mad 1858, when the right hon. gentleman opposite wee et lest able to equalise the spirit duties, they have in the three kingdoms undergone a number of successive changes. 1 will give the general results. In 1863, the total =omit of duty levied on British spirit—l do not include colonial or beendy—but the toted of duty collected by the Board of Wend Revenue was, in Englend, 3,166,0001. ; in Soo:land. 1,867,0001. • and in Ireland. 1,267,0001 In 1869 the amount in Fineltai was 4,073,0001., or an biomes, of 907,0001. • (the duty, all through beieg uniform, theee was no cheap; except Dome trilling adjustment in England.) In the rose time England received a considerable quantity of ▪ trite from Scotland and Ireland, but that be a detail with which I needlnot trouble the home, I will only give gamed realm tealy in 1 8 therlesed from 1A67.0001. to ' 2,760,000 aerate of 882,0001. In Ireland the increase wise from 1.2670001. to 2,364,0001. ! net increase of 1,097,0001. The , general rani then to thatfrom this most legitimate source of taxation the inane, from 1863 to 1859 hes been from 6,601,0001. to 9,188,0001, the set incases 2,807,0001. Let me tell the committee this is a real substantial addition, unattended by • angle moral drawback. This is a real addition to the amount of the permanent revenue. Making due allowance for the growth of porde, lion, it is a clear inmate of 1,600,0001. The Mee ale now equalised in the three kiugdoms ; but when we calielder the difficulty with which the subject of the spirit duty is attended in Ireland, and consider, moreover, that of late yam theatre been in Ireland • gradual tine of the duty in that country, I thick we ought at Mast togive her a single year's net by not proposing farther increase. We mar consider up to this moment our maw he been complete. I believe contra bend made Is all bat ahem; but when we con sider that • few mouths ie but a shod aperients of • matter of curb importence, and also the dan ger of giving the last atomism to contraband. We certainly are of opision that it would be unwise, or at all arts premature, st the present mimeo, to propose any general Imams of the spirit duties. With regard to a per- is my mind snows to deirice ration, or something mote than demonstration, against soy change in these duties. I have already mentioned to the committee that the delivery (4 spirits, in anticipation of • change, has been eery large; the deliveries of tea and sugar have bees far larger. Ice dealing with the qualities between direct end the direst taxalioa there 1s one argument which, pprlis impealsoily expressed, is substentially this—the ft= between them involves au question hetim e ril sad AI Mims my IMMO Omelet do - • clamp pay direct ; but Indirect tax: i s . . , prom mere suioualy a the labouring pop leo, (Bear, s h e This wee felt by parliament at the ommentommit of the Ramien war end an effort wu made la eateemen mom te meets lergiportion of the demands of the war by seem of new taxes. They carefully observed the mitiattessea of • due relation between the amount to be relied by dim% sd indirect taxation. I think I may take It fee grated it woe then the determination of parliament that of the properties of the expenditure for the war to be drawn from new tame, the greater pert should he drawn from dizot, the Ms • part from indirect. The same worse boa been fol lowed since the war closed at the end of March, 1856, ee ft i n / d aleicat with the Modal year ; bat although the f year 1866.7 wee • yam • et peace sa far as the ors- OM ma at as end, yet It was not • year of the Mame' or peen; it was a year of transitios. A great portion of it was occupied in bringing homeour armament from the and the expenditure eerysemly equalled that of • Cr O l e a r " 4 war. TM year 1867.8 wee the beginning of the flame el peace, Is ememmenes of the redone. el oar astabilsimente. Is, MAIM& friend the &mem of Elhete for the Bono DeomOsaml, whowee then Chas:NAM of the lieshmear, heal WWI maim the necessity„ in order to men the demob of the patio service, of keeplog cep • snob poetics if the imersesed taxation. If did , teal bus aktirelyrentoeid at *seed of May, 1857, the date as owe el the lowest dam would have game down to 9s. ft per art. The duty on tee would hso some dews le Is., eadi be. income tel to bd. My right hon. Sim* bon- • ever Mad himself under the neossity of stopple, the per tin inseam of war tom is order to meet the mood one of eamnditure, bat be also took me to mention the Inman the two means of supply. Be salted to maintala a portion of the exue duty on tee sad sager, and he oleo retained the 2d. is the pound theme tax, which would bare expired that year if the Mot 1664 ware allowed to take effect. My right h oe. Mead contimed the extra duties front lit Aped, 1857, to Mena, 1860, • period of about three years. Toe result has been that he bee retained for the financial year 1857-8 • 2d. cc the Income tax, which would have lapsed under the • act of 1853, and which produced about 2,000,0001. lint the • extra duty on Mend eager has been maintained until 1860. They produce about 3,000,0001. • year ; so that t f the • temporary war tams, those relied by Indirect taxation will have produced 0,000,0001, from the doe of the we, to 1860, whereas the direct tax Moe will have produced 2,000,0001. That sir, b the true state of the account. Whatever may be . the anticipations of the yobbo out of doors, whatever the patience of oar Seders would endure, in the view of the Li b eration they would be goat y of • mono breach of if at this moment we sated you to add a single 'Offing to Impute m tea and sugar. I will likewise rosin the • committee of the position in which we sow stand. The mitre duties are, it is Sue, the mot coammisat side of , Taisho extra mesas, TM extra duties ore levied as the , ray evening that the financial statement is made, aid we . eon get 12 moths' revenue in 12 menthe' time. At trees % . however owing to various circumst.ncrs, the finandel Mete meat ha: boa delayed nearly four months, the mount to be raised by extra taxation for that space is loet. Bones that, nearly 1,000,0001. has been paid for duty in anticipation of • Menge. The &obelus at the raiment is richer thee It maths to be by about 1,000,0001. That sum repreeente the . unman which would be moductd by those duties for the next use or two months, so that in point of fact these duties have abeny been anticipated for six months out of the twelve with which I have to dot o' I could sot propose to parliament to make an themes is them. That beteg so, sir, 1 here arrived at • point which will be seedy auticipated. (A laugh.) The diviningissaley • of en intelligent audience relieves en orator from mewing . to detail'. It only remains for me to say whet we to do with the income tax. The income tax has, looaerive. • entered into our fiscal legislation for two great purposes, sal at two different periods. The tint was to enable us to make • permanent end salutary reforms in our commercial end fiend c omens. The ether is to meet, in • manner the mast dikes. clone, any sudden exigencies of the public service. I would web, sir, that it had been my fortune to silt the committee to ono to a vote for the farmer rather than for the latter purpose. I trust the time may yet come what, if the income tax is to be continued, whatnot will roolkot that it derived no smell passport to pnhlio favour as a peace tax, that it was a mute of enabling us to make comps in our system which have bon productive of the widest sod most permanent social benefits. (Hear, hear.) Them ban other parpose to which it is to be applied, to meet great public exigencies and extraordinary demands for the public service. There en purposes Oct so pleasant to entertain, but @loudly legitimate; and if the honour dignity, sod end' et the . country require us to m ake the great sod sudden effort, I think the continuation of the income teL is • legitimate source to which to rood for Meng the money required. I do not know, sir, whether the committee wish roe to lay before them details with repot . to the income tax. The expettationa which were held out when the income tax was imposed have been mitiroly ful filled. In 1853, when the act was parsed which imposed it, the revenue was pieced ander ouch a system that would enable us hi seven yore to dispense with the income tax as • omens of robing revenue foe our ordinary requirement"; and so far es depends on the revenue, that expects? i ,, n has boa entirely totalled. (Hear, bear.) I will 'tate whet the ex penditure of the country was in 1353, and compare it with the main revenue, and the committee will then be ails is judge how far the expectations then held out ore jnotiflog by the result. If the expenditure had remained at thenme poet. Use revenue would more than suffice to accomplish every %Wag. In 1863 the revenue was 69,000,0001., and the expenditure me 65,769,0001., in 1859.61 the wheats of revenue LI 64,340 0001.. showing that It has grown 5,316,0001., a sum about equal to the income tax at 6d. in the proud. To balance this moron in the revenue, the expenditure, which was in 1869 55,769,0001., is estimated in 1859-60 at 69,207,0001. While the revenue has grows 5,316,0001., our expediters bee grown 13,438,0001. That woe • very simple mid trans parent explanation of the difficulty of doing away with the inoonie to, although our revenue has increased 5,316 fOOl. 1 may remind the omareittee that this income is entirely dependent of the advantage we shall get next year from the termination of 2,146,0001. Long Annuities ; so that, on the whole, we should have had next year more than 7,000,0001. increase, • sum which would enable too not only to away with the Inoue ter, but oho to loose thee duties en tee end sugar, if our morn Mute had not Maimed. I think I may my without be•itatith that if the humane stands. st what I estimate it to ho, there would not be the allgtMet difficulty in dispensing with the income tax and lowerneg the tax on tea and sorer, were it not that the expenditure het Warmed beyond that. I have already stated that 4,867,0001. is about the deficiency that I have to meet. Them is one sosres from which I may derive some small rum to meet it without interfering with the come of trade. It is a matter net entirely new, but which bee from time to time been whirred to by Chancellors of the Exchequer, with the intimation that the time would come when the proixwal might be made. I refer to what is called the system of malt credit The met-. Takeo perhaps are aware of the peculiarity of the audit and hop Incise (I will Dot eolith thelatter, the ogee is peculiar, sad the amount is small). I will deal exclusive) y wi th the duty on malt. gosling roughly them is • metht of very namely six months given to the maltsten by the govetoment They make the malt, dispoee of it, and get paid for it„bdore they are railed upon to pay the duty ; so that in point cd fact the public tied the capital for the mallows to tarry on their Ithisiaties. It is not so in any other trade 'object lo the excise; the distiller and spirit (rotor, after the spine has been gauged, end the officer her made hie round% is called urea it once to pay the duty. A delay of Pone or dm w eek" ie elf that le allowed to the dealer In spirit'; end. la Frointolja se ems se the collector can make out the charge be te al upon to pay It. Bat in the cos of the melt duty there is • delay allowed of 18 weeks, which added to the Om t six Nab that take place In leaking out the scoottellt e t 0 cam ef the spirit dencr, mike. a period of nearly am meat In former dome It was felt that this was a medics ot some immosses in %natio* to the eyatem trf Plut el It to the degemdmice of the sittlealtud a enth° „,pr barley be the boo mike. It was thou,ht, , s r* Weer et rearm, that this sync= suppled a capon s the ma who bought the barley from the farmer, e rialFy leaded to whams the pries to the farmer bum etog hima a wider market. Bat we bare happily outlived time when these artificial arrangements mull, would, or °tight to bs to tolerted. The system of Win.: ospital fns the trader is in principle a bad system, and, beteg