The Express. — London, England, 1858-02-19 00:00:00

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Dublin and Meath Railway Bill. • NO OP lON. THE LORD-LIEUT ENA NCY ENANCY MOT OP IRELAND. Mr. ROEBUCK gave notice that an that day fortnight he &odd cell the attention of the house to the subject of the vice-royalty of Ireland, in the words of hi s no te which stood an the mar. CIIIIRCH-RATES BILL. Kr. PACKE gave notke that on the motion for going into cenuoittes on the Church-Rota Abolition Bill, he should move AM the house do go into committee on that day air isiontba. THE LORD PRIVY SEAL. Mr. WISE gave notice that on Thursday, March 4, he nosh! move—" That the house is of oMIon that the nom merinos nth' select committee of 1860 on official mines, to dimatinue the salary of the Lord Privy Seal, and to transfer the dines of that minister to some other department of the goveramit th rld be carried into ellen" (Hear.) lAN RAILWAYS. Mr. LIDDELL gave notice that that day fortnight he &odd cell inmates to the subject of the delay in the con- Monks of railways in India, with a view to an inquiry into the cause of that delay. (Hear, hear.) CHANCELLOR OP THE DIOCESE OF MAN CHESTER. Mr. HADFIELD begged to salt the Secretary of State for the Hone Deportment miler what authority the Bishop of Manbeeter had 'mann a chancellor of the diocese of Manchester ? Whether Dr. Hayford, recently appointed enieerer el the theme of Probate, still hold the snow of chancellor of the diocese of Manchester; and, if he did, whether be weld be permitted to hold both offices ? Whether Mr. Joha Etude, recently appointed registrar for the city of Manchester and hundred of Salford, was to be permitted to hold the office of secretary to the Bishop of Manchester, and the other anon held by him under the bishop or in con anion with the diocese or archdeaoonry of Manchester? Sir G. GREY said that the first question related to a sub ject with which the government had nothing to do, and which they could not with in any way. The Bishop of Manchester Led appointed a chancellor ander the general authority of he omoe. A bishop wee required to appoint one, and if he did not, the archbishop was entitled to do so. There had been no commonicedon as the subject between the government and the bishop ; cad am to the legal appoint ments, he couldgive no information to the bon. gentleman. CHARITY COMMISSIONERS. Mr. HOPWOOD begged to ask the Secretary of State kg the Home Department, whether it was the intention:of the government to tab aay steps for enlarging the of the firity C 0011111161111•111, with a view to aim • ing the proceedings between them and the Court of Chancery. Mr. BAINES mid—The government has an at present sours to the opinion that it is advisable to tong to • measure rehrence to this subject. ARMY MEDICAL DEPARTMENT. Mr. GROOAN begged to ask the U.S., Secretary for War when the warrant I. merino to the medical depart sment al the may, la acgardeme with the recommendation ne emeelese, would be herd ? Bit J. RAMSDEN—The abject is at present ender the maithretka nth, goverment; but the recommendations nth' eamiselea are se mien and so important that great thinned= is neseemary beige they can be finally adopted. It is lanmenie therelize for me to state the preen time when the Innen will come into THE LORD•LIBUTENAM ti a: IRELAND. Lard PALMERSTON presented • petition front the in 'Minute of Dublin represented at a public Nesting and and egad by the Lord Mayor, praying that the cam of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland might not be abolished. (Hoer.) OENM.AL WINDHAM. General CODRINOTON begged to an the First Lord of the Treasury, whether any additional denten had bees err staved by the government from the Commander-in-Chid and from the Governor-General in India, referring to the operations of General Wiadham in the detest,. of Cawnpore in November last. Lord PALMERSTON—I rather think a communication on the subject has been received at the India House. My noble and gallant friend knows that there is no direct com munication between the Governor-General and any part of her Majesty's government; but I believe I may venture to say that explanations have been given which completely acquit General Windham from any blame connected with the operations at Cawnpore, which molted in the Ices of EL and camp. An inquiry is going on in India with r h rgar t a e the conduct of certain other persona who are said to be in fault on that occasion, and I believe I am justified in marteig that Sir Colin Campbell is satiated that General Windham displayed on this, as he has done on all other occa sions, the qualities for which he is so much distingniahed. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. The SeariiinirrTboSitoarl c;Voilllembers having motions out the paper, when Lord PALICERSTON aid—l will venture to appeal to the courtesy of my hoe. and learned friend the member for Sheffield, wbeesmotion stands first on the paper, to allow the skewer debate on the government of India to proce e d. Mr. ROEBUCK—I ban done the deed before I was asked by the noble lord. Lord PALMERSTON—I hope those hon. gentlemen also whose motions are on the paper will follow the courteous example of my hon. and learned friend, and allow the ad jeerer debate to go on. The motions were then, with leave, withdraw*, and the hour proceeded to the orders of the day. GOVERNMENT OF INDIA BILL. Colonel SYKES resumed the debate on this bill. After repudiating the character of en apologist of the court of directors, he noticed the conflicting reasons weed dß (rent members of the government for introducing thmm sure, especially Lord Palmerston and Sir C. Lewis, the latter of whom, he said had af fi rmed that the East India Com• ray bad dor nothing at all towards the acquisition of our magnificent Indian empire. He (Colonel Sykes) considered that Mr. Whiteside had completely crushed the arguments of Sir C. Lewis, and he stated the results of official docu ments to show that Mr. Blaney bad committed • grievous error la reference to the pressure of taxation in India. He declared that he had seen in one street in England more human misery than in • whole province in India. He then disc-nerd the objection offered to the existing retina founded upon the alleged lemony°. Meows attending the double government, showing also from official evidence, the celerity with which the prod igious mass of bursae wee despatched by the court of directors. The delays in the Board of Control, he observed, arose from the board's lutetium°e with minute details—an interference which was never contemplated in Be constitution. Hs re- furred to the peovides• in Mr. Fox's bill, which his sea gentle measure compared with the one before Mo regarded Upon the subject of the mutiny, he had no doubt that it was a military one, arising from • religious panic; but he believed there was no sympathy, no complicity, In the Bengal army at large until the punish ment at Meerut. He defended the East India Company against the charge of indifference to the extension of Chris tianity, detailing the number of missionaries, of schools, and scholars, and the general progress of Christian labour in India, to which the Indian government, he said, offered no obstruction whatever. Highly approving the propagation of or holy religion there, yet, for our own sakes he recom mended that the prosecution of that object should be con ducted with caution, prudence, and circumspection, rellolll. bering the inflammable material' we have to deal with. He urged, from examples, the danger of leaving in the bands of the ministers of the crown the uncontrolled appointment of high officers is India, ineisting that without a guarantee that experienced men would be selauted, thoroughly ac quainted with the temperament of the people, our authority there would not be safe. (Hear.) Even at the present dose the court had no power to interfere in mili tary appointments; and this wee the great curse of India. (Hear, hear.) Military appointments were made by the War-office; and all the court could do was to refuse to make him a member of the council ; for the two things generally went together. The consequences of this power of without any check had led to most unhappy results. Sir John Credock, es he bad already stated, wee • military martinet, who was perfectly ignorant of the prejudices of the Madras soldiers, and who caused the unfortunate mutiny at Vonore. An amiable °Moor, but one quite Incompetent from the state of his health, wee appointed to the command of the Cahoot force ; and the result wee, that either owing to a want of energy, or on account of his ill-health, his troops were lost to • man. One Europeen doctor alone escaped out of 16,000 men. (Hear, hear.) He (Colonel Sykes) had seen a commander-in-chief come to be 'worn in, who was scarcely able to rise to return thanks, and who, be be lieved, never mounted his horse during the whole time be woe In India. (Hear, hear.) He had seen another com smander-ineddef ewers In who, on retiring from the court room, would have can against a screen from blindness if it bad not been for the Interition of a director. (Laughter.) Is anather case an officer had been appointed who wee a man of great ability, but who was utterly ignorant of the feeling, of the natives, and we., therefore, utterly unfit to command an army of 120,000 men—men who on some points were so difficult to rare but who , if properly led, would fight for you Sobreon and Ferozeshah , and a hundred such battles. (Cheers) Whatever alterations might take place, be trusted that soma provision would be made to secure officers to com mand our Indian armies who should at all events be free from physical infirmity, and should possess some know ledge of the country and the people. (Cheers.) In the remarks which bad been made on the subject of patronage no account had been taken of the enormous number of uocormanted officers in India, of whom there were some 10,000, or 15,000, or more. (Hear, beer) If the proposed changes were e ff ected, what would be easier than tot a constituent to write to his representative, saying . ' Glee So-and-so a note to the Governor of Bengal or Madras to provide for him." (Hear, hear.) No doubt there had rem • good der of this sort of thing already, but they might depend spots It that there would be • good des/ more whim the cheek of Leadenbell-street was removed. (Hear, bier.) After all, was there anythieg in the peat management of ear colonies that would hold nut any hope or pros pect et • better administration of Indian affairs, if they were placed under the direct control of her Majesty s government? Were we to go through en ordeal of ignominious Masts and the ultimate for of ,our pow...aims/ like that which betel us in North America ? Were we to have • returnee like that in Canada ? Wee we to have moceselon of hostilities, like the Kaffir wars, and the vistaed ladspandence of the inhabitente 1' Yet all the things would he possible if the government of India were entrusted to men umeoquainted with the country and its people. (Cheers.) Renoir came to a subject of deep important, to every gen tleman that eat on that aide of the house He (the pl ant colonel) was • liberal, and perhaps something more ; but be considered himself a eonetitational whig—st present. iL t iLtt:.) He was for Queen, Lords, and Commons. At he had seemed his constituents, as no doubt most of the gentlemen whom he was now more particularly ad dressing had also done, that he would assist in oarryag • meatus for the reform of that house. (Hear, hear.) Now what was the object of that measure to be P Would it be to hareem the power of the minister P (Cheers.) He premed not. Surely it would rather be to increase the Warne. of the people in that hones, sad to diminish the parer of the government. (Cheers.) If, therefore, he had to go back to his constituents—and he hoped he should be Nei book to them very soon, with a Reform Act in his band — (them) —he should be a shamed to tell them that he had veiled for reform, and at the same time for a bill that made the prime mutter a despot. (Lend cheers.) Unhappily, he (the gallutpokeel) we. not insensible to the claims of a gifting'. Ha had read Locks, and on logical grounds alone he should hays been constreined to vote against the bill, even if be did net care • fazthfra for it on other accounts. (Chews.) The noble lord of rower intended that there is • sad staidetent policy for India • but wee hasempatitde with **po li tical clingss r i erne tellifenapiese. -Anse 178 e there had beeil illiNi74.llll of the Board of Control, so ant the atria Ille of each bad been on the average just 31 menthe and • half. (Hear, hew.) A consistent policy wad tans have been obviosudy impossible but for tl:caes:. - moment body , which had been sitting all this time in i bedieetrest. (Choate.) A question had been raised with nprd to the mode in which this bill had been introduced. There lad been no immediate pressure upon the government, sad so allsotkaa of wrong bad been bought agent the Board of Dheoton. But surely some reason ought to have been shown before the government took the step of holding up fa • degraded light before all Europe 18 gentleman of charade end reputation. (Hear, hear.) The hon. mem ber for Reigate and that the Introduction of the Queen's name in India would be equivalent to an army of ten thou- Nand men. No doubt the hon. member (Sir H. Rawlinson) we a men of great ability—as p an antiquary. (Laughan ter and cheers. of ) India. The ut he dietej the b a o c i t a i ..r tlem's knowledge In obliged to give him some assistancelu in r order to make out his qualiacation for the seat to which he had been nominated. It was necessary that he should have been ton years in India; and they had to refer to the Institutes of Afghan to prove that that °wintry was in India. In feet, instead of thirty years' Indian experience, the hon. gentleman had had tan years' experience of a Mahomsdan people. The hoe. gentleman told them that tQueen's name would be an element of her. • but he ought to have known better. (lieu, hear. He most have per fectly well that there had not • Queen upon the throne of Delhi for oil onturies. He ought to have known, again, that there never had been a Queen upon. any of the five thrones of the ANSA, which bad been formed out of the empire of the Great Mogul. The placing of women in such a position would be clearly exceptional, for the Ma homedan law did not permit females to wield autho rity. (Hear, hear.) It was absolutely impossible, there fore, toe the people of India to appreciate the enthu data loyalty, he might my the love, which Englishmen felt foe. their. Queen. Supposing that the government were treadened to her Majesty, she would have to be called by the Makenedens the Padishah Begum—(laughter)— that was to may, the wife of th e King. But where was the K w (Hear hear.) Again, amongst the Hindoos she would be called the Mahatmas*, • title equally unconnected with the idea of political authority—the exerciee of which the Hindoos allowed to women no more than did the Ma holudene. (Hear, hear.) There might have been one or two cases in which females had been regents for their eons, but melee alrae had always been the object of the respect of thepeople. (Chews.) Lot the Queen's name be introduced, H they taleased, but let it be dens at a proper time. (Hear, hear.) This was not a proper time. (Cheers.) Thom wee now surging In India • biding of panic and slam s, which might bunt out at any moment from one tad of the empire to the other, from the Himalayas to Cape Co mma ; and a change of government could not bat be produc tive of evil consequences. In the first place the Sepoys would say, " This mutiny has been so far eaccustol that it has ap ed one government ; we have only to try it again and we shall upset another." (Cheers.) It was a remarkable fact that out of 79,000 men Sir Colin Campbell could only muster a force of 8,000 men in the field, owing to the dispersion of his forces; end therefore it would be perfectly absurd to suppose that they could get on in India without a very large native army; and they could never have that without le wetting the prejudices of the native,. (Hear, hear.) Let the present panic disappear, end the people might then pro petty appreciate any changes that might be made. Waite couple of yews, end than if a change was necessery do away with the Board of Control. (Laughter and cheery.) Appoint a Minister for India, end give him a council composed of • sufficient number of men to get through the sixteen thousand communications he had told the hones of. Let than be men of character and independence, and, above all things, preserve the elective principle, otherwise their mansions of constitutional prin ciples would not be worth a rush. (Loud cheers.) By this MM. they might govern India well, and keep its adminis tration tree from party influences. (Chan.) He would conclude these observations with the words of • resolution which had been passed at the Rut India House after • four days' debate—a debate that for ability, eloquence, prudence, and sound judgment, would have dons honour to the Home of Commons itself. (Hear, hear.) That resolution, which had been adopted unanimously, woe in the following words " That the proposed transfer of the governing powers of the East India Company to the crown is opposed to the rights and privileges of the East India Company, is fraught with danger to the constitutional interests of England, is perilous to the esfety of our Indian empire." (Loud cheers.) Sir C. WOOD maintained that circumstances of suf ficient gravity had moaned In India to render It ad viaable that they should consider how the future govern ment of India might best be constituted and carried on. He attached no blame whatever to any portion of the government of India, at home or in that country, for what was done. But it was impossible to wooed from ourselves that • great crisis had occurred, that a serious check had been given to our government in that country, and that in looking forward we mast, to no. an old expression, set our houss order, and put our government on such a footing as would ensure the proper administration of affairs in that country. We bad • large, well disciplined, well eppotned native Army, of whose fidelity up to the last moment there was no doubt. No men bad better opportunities of judging, or stronger In ducements to ascertain the truth, than thou officers whose lives depended, from moment to moment, upon the fidelity of their men; and even up to the last moment those officer. enswered for their fidelity. (Hear.) That could not be the rose again, at any rate with regard to the Bengal army. The Bombay army had been slightly tainted, but it had been pacified. Five yeses ago it had been strongly urged on I government to amalgamate the armies of the three peed deneies. Had this been done it was probable that the revolt would have been much more wide, and more continuous than it had been ; as It was, the disaffec tion which spread so widely in ow army hardly reached the others. (Hear, hear) Of coarse it we Impossible to restore such an army as that. It was squally inipresible that a native army of a certain amount should not exist in that country; because no fines of Europeans could be expected to perform all the duties re quired. But we must neeesearily have • much larger European fora in India than we had hitherto bad. (Hear, hear.) It was impossible, otter the experience of the last year, to teem India with 30,000 or 36,000 European troop ; and the meet effective means would be to abolish the distraction between the Queen's troop! and the company's troops. (Hear, beer.) There were Jealousies between the two armies —jealousies which even the present Mete of allege bad not altogether quenched. Would it not be wise that the whole army should be the Queen's army—that those jealousies and differences should be at once put, en end to, and no room left for them ? (Hem hear.) Would it n o t encor e greater uniformity, greater; unity, and greater spirit in the administratiou of the army if the whole of it was adopted as the Queen's army ? At sit emote, there ought to be no distinction between the officers of one and of the other. (Hear, hear,) The same argument in a minor degree applied to the coats. They had the Queens count, end the Sadder courts. Five years ego the government was moat anxious to amalgamate them, bat the arrangement ha I not been carried into effect-- the only mason being the jeelensica between the two. By putting an end to the distinction they should go a long way to remove those jealousies. (Hear, hear.) Another reason weighed more strongly with the government. Items important on the present occasion to put our government in India on the etrongest possible footing, to leave no weak place no sore which could be touched by any hand. They should remember how many great authorities in that sod tha other house had objected to the double form of government —ha used the expression In the genes in which it was usually employed. Whatever improvement had been In India, it was said that the doable government h ad i Ve t e the obstacle; whatever delay occurred, it was attributed to the form of the government. Was that note source of weakness that, whenever a desirable alteration was proposed, the form of government was Mated to be the obstacle, not by ordinary or mesa aUtbefidell, but by many who were entitled to the gristle* weight ? Wee it not a manses that an organised cheap la the form of government should be pro posed as • remedy fie every rains, evil that existed P Did hon. tless. suppose that the government so attacked. so 316 Ned gu lted by time coneant samba weld command that respect In India which it wee desimbie end esuetrial that the r=ritent should cunraand? It wee not new as ft was in yeas, when time rather Mau Medea separate" us from that tonatry. English were now greedily twisted tad read by natives in parts of India. They knew se well as we did that attacks were made upon the form of government la India, and that it was laughed at and sidisolod by *my mu of son la We country. Wm • that a drmunietanos likely top reothie command the respected th e people in Idia, who lltle et any form of y government but a knew monarchy, who had no notion of a constitutional renal rat, or of the check said to be exeraeal by the FAA India Com pany ? Might it not be wiree , especially now, to place the government of India in such Arm that it w ould not be open to those attacks, and would not appear, in the eyes of the people of India, to be discredited by a large portion of the parliamentary knowledge and talent of this country P It would be of essential value to place the government In the name of the sovereign, and thus entitle it to the respect of native princes, and ensure that unity in the administration of the whole ocomtry which could hardly be attained with the conflicting authorities in the army and the law to which he bad referred. Would any one say that the Court of Proprie tors and the Court of Directors, as elected by them, was a form of government which any man in his menses would devise if be were called on to cortittne a form agovernment for India it (Hear.) It had arisen from the accidental dream aance of a trading company acquiring, in one form or another, territorial jurisdiction over districts in India, which had been increased from time to time. So long se the Rest Indite Company was a trading company, it would have been most unjust to deprive the members who subscribed a capital of • voice in the c.holce of those who managed their affairs ; just as It would be now to deprive the members of a joint stock company of the right of choosing their own directors. But since 1832, when all trading interest on the part of the proprietors and directors ceased, when they trams simply and solely trustees for the mown in the government of India, that argument no longer applied. (Hess, beer.) The wily question now wee, bow best to restibate this govern ing power for administering Indian affair? (Hear hear.) The proprietors of India Stock had no moreinterest in Indian affair, than the holders of Three per Cent. Consols or of railway chart. At this mo ment, after the great events that had taken place in India, when it was most essential toleas our go vernment on the fi rmest huh, and to present i t most advan tageously to the natives, a change ought to be made which would effect that object without any of the inconveniences or disadvantages which had been anticipated from the go vernmeat of a responsible minister and council. The amend ment declared that the time was not advisable for the change. It was not a little remarkable that is 1883 the same motion was made, but made by those who were anxious to go further than the government. Many of the same gentlemen were nowt advocating delay In order that the government might not go so far es they then proposed to go. Mr. WILLOUGHBY was not wedded to any particular scheme of government for India, and would be willing to part with the East India Company provided a substitute could be found from which better fruits could be reasonably expected. But not a single individual connected with India with whom be bad communicated, be said, had uttered any other sentiment than that of dismay at the approaching change, his objection to which arose from the effect which he kne w it would have upon the natives of India, who would apprehend a change of policy that would take away some of their most cherished privileges; and Ewa an impres don was made upon the native mind the effect would be more serious than that of the reseed cartridges upon the aeye. He iodated upon the great advantage of an independentbody like the company being Interposed between the crown and the local authority in India, sad denied that there was a defected reepondbility in a double general government,whith was not singular in our system of administration. The patronage in India was now distributed amen just principles; we were reaping the fruits of such a velem, and he could not think favourably of a measure which would make •chaap in Hat system He pointed out the extent of patronage which the MU would place in the hands of the government without a check, and the influence with which it would arm an un scrupulous minister. In replying to arguments in support of the measure, be complained of the fallacies and errors which pervaded ell discussions upon Indian topics, instancing the subject of adoption the nature of which he explained ; and he protested strongly against the charge brought against the company's government, even in the pulpit, of ignoring our faith in India, in refutation of which he read a passage from a sermon of the late Bishop of Calcutta. Mr. CAMPBELL said, having spent the greater part of his days in India, he felt bound to say a few words. He thought the opinion of men who had considerable pro at stake in India was entitled to more weight in to the MPredchange than that of men who had everything to prompt action and everything to gain by delay. He held In his hand a letter from one of the most extend zemindars in Dacca, now residing in London, in which the writer expressed the opinion that the change fro m the govern ment of the company to that of the Oren word produce a most beneficial effect in India, and would smooth the way for the restoration of pesos all over the country. The opinion of this gentleman a native carrespondenta was in con formitifth that view. Sir . LYTTON said the tight bon. gentleman who was at e head of the Admiralty had made it a matter of complaint against his hon. friend Me member for Huntingdon (Mr. T. Baring) that he bad rested his objection to this bill upon time. The right hon. gentleman know perfectly well that a measure of such importance would have been allowed to pre to the second reading if there were not something in the period at which it was brought before them that was pe culiarly and clearly unfavourable to its introduction. Now, with regard to the measure itself, he must declare that he was not disposed to discuss it at any length. He, for one, thought it was at once audacious, incomplete, and 111-cord deed. It was audacious because it exchanged an adminis trative body which, whatever might be its faults, was at all events a check to every hasty or unwise proposition on the part of the imperial government; for a set of irresponsible nominee* bf the minister of the day—Omar, hear) ; it was incomplete, because it did not afford a single guarantee for that wholesome restraint upon precipitate or despotic enactments which was supplied by the checks which it was proposed to remove - -(hear, hear) —lt was ilkonsidered, because even on so simple a point as the number of the council which it was proposed to create, there was not a single gentleman practically acquainted with India who did not tell them that the number was pre- poetteortely Inadequate to the discharge of the business which would have to be performed. It was still more unconsidered, on a much more Important point. Her Majesty's govern ment said, and he had no doubt they honestly believed, that their patronage would not be Increased by the bill, whereas he would undertake to prove when they came to the consider ation of that question that it would be lammed enormously, and increased in a direction which was dangerous with refer ence to the clad of gentlemen to whom it applied. He owned he was not surprised to find that the measure was in exemplar and unconsidered, because it was not possible that say one could devise • comprehensive scheme for the go vernmeet of India at a time when a revolt was raging—at a thee when none of us knew how far that revolt would spread, when no one knew what were the right remedies to be applied with a view to its repreesios, and when all our thoughts ought to be concentrated on the military means by which we might rescue a handful of our countrymen from the midst of a host of rebel/. Ho did not believe that any.of the more eminent members of the board of directors would coademend to sit as nominees at the board which the noble lord proposed to establish. The Prerident of the Board of Control shook his head, bat there was nothing in it. (Laughter.) If the merit men in the house were to meet In the legislative council agar absolute sovereign, did any one mean to say that they would retain the high-spirited intentions which they now entertained? If duke were wanted, let them be called 1 1 clerks; bat if councillors were required, councillors let them be. (Cheers.) It was said that under the new bill there would be • superintending vigilance in the House of Com mons. But what information would the house be likely to obtain ? Supposing a member should rise and sale the noble viscount what were the intentions of the government with respect to the Nitam, or what was proposed to be done at the court of !kindle, the noble viscount might get up and say, although he did not mean anything personal, the question was exceedingly absurd. (Cheers and laughter.) He believed the measure if envied out would be a most dan gerous one. Before we could be competent to judge with discrimination and knowledge of the oriental policy we must try to become orientate ourselves—we mutt make ourselves familiar with Eastern policy, which was at variance with all oar own institutions—we must know something of the forms of • mythological religion which very few of us could com rebend, but which were so interwoven with the habits, de opinions, the daily routine of a Hindoo's life, and without making an accurate study of that religion it would be impos sible to frame laws to suit the population. (Hear.) If the bill should papa there would never be any active interference in the affairs of India, unless whenit was for the interests ed party to assail some government, or to imitate the Chancellor of the Exchequer by aspersing an illustrious name (Cheers.) This was the moment in which we ought to give to the authority established in India all the support of unanimity— this was the moment when we ought not to stigmatise our Own rale for the purposes of party—this was the time when everything ought to be done for the maintenance of an em pire which had passed through the perils of a mutinous army, but which was now to be exposed to the more dangerous ordeal of organised favouritism and jobbery. (Cheers.) That empire was won by the valour and . enterpriss of the middle class, and it was for the representatives of that class now to determine whether it should be joopardimed by °Mehl imbecility end ministerial corruption. (Loud cheers.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL Bud that the resolution directed 'genet the bill was bred upon the demand for delay, but the reveres of that nisolaWn said bat little on the reasons for delay ; they directed that argument to the principle of the bill itself The country would not be °patented with this mode of meeting the question. They had legislated for catholic emancipation, for reform, for the ccendaws, to the midst of great popular excitement. With read eo the s ab ject itself, he admitted that the company had done great things, but circumetares had changed; remedies which were good seventy years ago were good c t n . tri =; T it what we now required was unity had and con very constitution ot the array excited the mistrust of thethatliumoilLexieteine7rceet.upolitioisna.ctudtbsurelivrwamasytowouw4tdadeshie:Mative Nothing nth tun inthe on result of the troubles in our colonise if we had bad to en counter an organised native army ? The ftey zany had been characterised Si the most costly a L is I abiram. As keg as we bad auk as army, we were never d e : w was rada r thmiu t he i n decide t t h this h before system. eli d ln our this hs haTing saw at once t an he source ann of danger, and upon that point the house and the t bW I country were now Wiled upon to decide. They must have a malty increased force of the Queen's troops in India and this 0f Itself broke down the authority of the company. They they e eciding entere: hi on t the oodd details o f the before them. The argument against subjec ti ng Indian sub ly jects to parliamentary discussi o n applied equally to all other subjects, and should not be aowed to be delayed. I quite allow (continued his lordship fil the great benefits that have accrued from the independence that has always characterised the directors of the Haat India Company. But I do not see how a body of constituents like that of the East India proprietor can be kept as the future foundation of the government of India. Then ie something anomalous in the Pi government of India in this way—and ek-yungbe theex pected that In making a change such a beefs of government should be established. On the other hand, I uite admit o edopte l f r fe hb : , :th th : e h ean th ouF. be"ed bi d u (:li ne ear: mmen , P o regarTh hear f oth .)f gh Ang wts, t 16 1 tutu be y if it does not provide for objects that I think essential, I shall be ready to join with those who can devise better soon- Miss for the independence of the council. (Haar, hear.) There is another object I s h ou ld w i s h t o k eep i n v i ew, and that object is the great services of India. (Hear, bear.) The military service of India is one of the most noble p , the most the of dietinguished, m the globe. I and the ost ea successful that should be k Int ever apeared sopn hoes that that with all its honour', rwnrds, and emoluments, and I trust with the same benefit. to India and to England that it lise hitherto conferred. Yon may say it is a matter of no im portance whether we keep up this patronage for the middle classes or nor. Bat that le not the point. The question is whether or not these middle classes have not done all for India we could wish—whether they are not men who have, by great talent and persevering labour in a tropical etirosea, raised themselves to high positions, and have conducted thenualves in those stations in a manner equal to that in which the best generals of Europe and the highest authorities in Europe have conducted themselves in the wars and negotiations of Europe? That being the case, not hiat would make me consent to any provisions in the bill b which that service can be injured or depreciated. There is another point upon which I shouldwish to have some security, but upon which I fear we must make up our minds not to obtain it. I wish it could be said that in any plan that gives the entire control of the government of India to the crown we could prevent matters connected with that government from being made the subject of party debate and party war fare in` this. home. (Hear, bear.) It is not that members of this Souse are Inclined to take factious views upon Indian questloes, but there are always certain members of this home who have confidence in the government of the day, and certain others who have not, that is, those who distrust their compe tence or their honesty, or perhaps both. (Hear, and laughter.) Which every party is ins opposition is apt to look with an un favourable bias on meaaures that may have bens adopted in India or in this country after the fullest consider. ation, and on the =et sufficient grounds. We cannot pre vent debates occurring in this house on Indian affairs. We have introduced questions upon other matters of govern ment—on foreign affairs—on colonial of sirs—many of them of the utmost delicacy, and upon which one would say priori nothing could be more dangerous, nothing more calculated to throw difficulties in the way of • satidactory settlement than to mak e ecru matters the subject of popular discussion. But that Is the principle of our existence; it is a principal feature of our constitutional life, and we must submit to it in the case of the Elsie., of India. We must look this question fully in the face, and endeavour, with all the deliberation we can commend, to come to a solution of a question, perhaps the meat Important that hes ever been brought under the notice of parliament—a question affecting the safety of the peat empire with which we have been entrusted by Provi dence, as I believe, for the benefit of millions and millions of the human nos I trust that we shall perform that duty well, but I feel that we cannot well, avoid it. (Cheers.) Mr. DISRAELI said if he thought a change in the direction recommended I,y her Majesty's Ministers would draw the inhabitants of Hindoetan nearer to this country, and improve their condition, he was not of opinion that the ope ration of thin measure would produce that effect; quite contrary. There was one subject which had been lost sight of in this discussion, namely, the financial part of the cation. It was idle to pretend that there would be, after change, any dis tin c ti on between the finances of Indra P nT ed thoes of England ; that if the exchequer of India was empty that of England would not be liable. If this be true, before the house agreed to the introduction of this bill. it should ask what wen to be the financial relations between Basked and India. At this moment there was a deficit in India of about 2,000,0001., and that deficiency would be necessarily doubled and quadrupled. Before the house and the country incurred this repontibility, they ought to know the remarries of India, and how they were to be managed. What was wanted was a total change in the local administra tion of ladle itself. The revenue derived from the land could not be increased, and it was raised in a manner which ren dered it precarious. Reviewing the projected scheme of home government for India, he insisted that it would be incompe tent to grapple with the details of Indian administration ; that the president must trust to the Governor-General, who, with a supremacy of power that would emit him above ell control, must become a despot. Sir (con tinued the right honourable gentleman), it is a win policy to establish the name of the Queen in India— (ministerial cheers)—but if you want to do so, if you want to substitute for the authority of the directors the natural rights of the crown, it is in India you moat do it, it is in India you must commence the change, it is in India that the question of its good or bad government must be decided. It is in India you must meet the consequences of the great revolution you are about to effect ; it is there you must meet the question of the military force, there you must for the great financial question. You an no loafer prepuce the inevitable oonnexion between English and Indian ; you cannot allow deficits I. be established in India any more than in England; and what steps can a council of insignificant men take in the fan of such important con tingencies P (Hear, hear.) Indeed, if your Indian minis ter bad all the irifts of all the brilliant men that Eng land has ever produced, he could not fficiently meet these questions of administration in a distant land. And yet this house ie not to be considered nab in taking the most fatal step which it was now invited to adopt since I have bad any experience of parlia ment. (Hear.) I will not go Into the question which has been touched by hon. members ; I will not go into the e flee t which the proposed change may have in our free parlia mentary life, through the Increase of eetrousge that will be placed in the hands of the crown. All them will develop themselves in time. I wish on the present occasion to confine myself to the financial points, which have net before been touched on, which are of the moat paramount importance, and which, before twelve months have elapsed, must exhibit their coosequenor s in increased taxation in this country. Re member the impatience of the people at the close of last war at the continuance of direct taxation; think upon the present state of your finances. I am quite certain that the Chancellor of the Exchequer must have had some anxious nights already In preparing the ways and means for her Majesty's dominions in Europe; but when his deficiency shall be doubled, then I went to know what will be the effect on your constituents then ? I want to know how you will take off the war taxes which already have caus.d you so much uneasiness ? I entreat the house to consider the sub ject from that point of view, and from it to consider the motion of my hoe, friend, a motion made, I believe, without any consultation with his political friends. I say that this is not the time in which to legislate for India, until you have a more mature plan. (Hear.) I will not my, although it might be triumphantly and Irrefutably proved, that the dame of rebellion ought first to be put out. I think that that objection is sound and unanswerable, but I take one impress u lo p e o r n er t inn hi t h o z. e, but which wwhichhicllithlinkf, it is th. my d d u o t t/ a to members of this house to impress upon the country. They are asked to take slops which will involve the country in pe cuniary emberramments which it is almost frightful to con template, and untd the boom has complete possession of the financial resources of India, until ths house has the means of availing itself of those resources, and of placing them in a sound and healthy condition, don't let us take a course which is not merely transferring the govern ment of that country from the company, but which is in effect merely transferring the patronage of the company to the ministry in Downing-street (Hear, bear.) I will not gay that it has been proposed with no other object, but I affirm that it can have no other effect. (Hear bear.) I lament that this question has been brought forward at the moment moment, although I am not surprised at the house finding Woolf involved at this ninon in the mares of Indian debate. Nobody could have expected that we should not be called upon to discuss this questioa, that we should not be called upon to inquire into the causes of the rebellion, and the conduct of the war, into the conduct of the minister who with Intis lathe condi tion which be has described did not hesitate to light up the torch of wee both in Persia and China. (Cheers.) That these circumstances should be inquired into wee right, but the proposition before us is that we should increase the power of those who we believe have dealt most injuriously with power, to transfer authority to tholes who have proved by their conduct and influence on a tho utho fo ri rt ty on :h7e es f h tho the enl y weedy *, that poisese they . are cHea no r t , b w z r r th ) y l of ho tl i s i s o that the home will hesitate long before they moist to such a ...It. It I. very possible that after ca a debate originated without any previous consultati with the mover's political friends, a majority Day be obtained hostile to the present motion. If party_ . " . 0 ot! to be thought of, my hon. friend the member for 11 .. tatg o on tio ahrhea k ict a hharef L7g atien:he cor overihtu ; 7l. l7 righ t itha w bio: lif t t in"l:, :t ipreiiniattnwyr.,ius wars .r7, ted .borco wes :.i tleettC .pcoapmrrh.zramand _ 7 :; :i ethlettlen, that it WU impossible t whenth atheasub:ratect:lowneohifchiwnhidillEchOgirklemmenos- to m beougudhilcumealtnett74:ll IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. - HOMO& OF LORDB.--TamaDAT, Fie. 18. ifs Lou) CIAXCILLOR axe bis ant at lee o'clock. The Hart of Flo, (We Yr. Datf) took the oaths and his seat as Bina new. BODIED . The Earl of CA RI RNARVON MILITIA moved he a return of the establishment of militia regiments now embodied sad their actual strength cm the Ist of January. It occurred to him that this might be a good opusity of calling the attention of the noble lode pposite (d a subjest con nected with these returns. The home wasaware that within the last few days the army estimates for the ensuing tIWICiaI year had been permuted to the Home of Com mons, and he observed that of the total charge for the effe, rive and now-effective services of Ili mil lions in round numbers, which those estimates involved, 150,000 i. only was apprepriated to the embodied °With . Now, this wee a very =all charge in itself, an d still smeller when compared with the charge in former years. In 1854-5 the number of men voted for the militia, taking the em bodied and disembodied together, was 174,000, and the *barge 900,000 i. In the following year the number of men wee 136,000, and the charge 3,800 0001. ; and in 1856-7 the number of men was 126,000 odd, and the charge 3,160,000 f. This year the total charge tor the embodied militia wee 160,00ei. He believed that, generally speaking, the deems for this branch of the 'orrice was satisfactory. He did not say that it might not have exceeded its proper limit, in some respects ; but if t 0,,. had been a somewhat lavish ire in one year that wee no reason why it should fall Into the opposite extreme in the neat. Under the eireomanove therefore It was scarcely unbar few him tie mums that it was contemplated either to reduce the num ber of regiments embodied, or to keep up an ineffective form. They had been t o ld at the commencement of the session that our relations with foreign nations and foreign sovereigns were at a friendly nature -- bear, hear ) — but lo o kin g a t the *rents of the lest six years. ho felt as others felt, that no one could venture to say hew far we could depend upon the permanence of those relation., more especially when we looked at the present aspect of affairs abroad. Should cireumatanoss moor suddenly to disturb the peaceful relations with foreign mum Mae now existing, nothing could absolve the government from the responsibility which would attach to them, should It be bend that they had neglected their duty in making full provides for national defence and the security of the country. Lad PA.NMURE, who waa very indistinctly heard, inti samed that there would be no obj ection to the production of the Miss be 'lda the noble earl had moved. In preparing and pausnlbg,tla estimates for the military service to par liament, it was the duty of the government to provide—ffmt. for the efficient defences of the count ry , for which ministers were responsible ; and, secondly, that the estimates should be framed with a due regard to the weight of taxation. Having regard to these considerations, he believed that they proposed in them es sufficient number of men (or her Mejeety•• land forces. They proposed. in round numbers, 130,000 men, which they thought sufficient to meet all the demand. made upon the army abroad, and to maintain an efficient force at home. He only propound to take a vote of 150,0e0f, for the embodied militia, because he believed that that amount, which would provide for the embodiment of 10,000 men for three months of the year, would be all that we. required—and should it not, there would be no die:leaky inereasig it at any time. He was the more juatilied is this expectation by the fact that retreats were coming in in large umbers. Since the let of January, 8.500 men had been recruited, and during the bast week no less than 2,000. This rate of recruiting would probably continue for the next two cc three months, and would by that time have replaced to a very ocesiderable extent the losses which the regiments in India had sustained. Under all the circumWances , it was the opinion of officers of high rank and authority, that it wee beet not to send out any new regiments to India • at the rase time that it bad been and would continue to be to send out considerable drafts to keep up the e ective strength of the regiments already there. At present he was happy to soy that the troops were in a marvellously healthy state; still they must expect that when the rainy and hot season came in, roomy casualties would occur which would have to be met, and then he could hardly expect that they would have to send out lees than 1,500 ram a moth to India. Whether it would be necessary to arrange Ise eluding ont the men month by month would of comes depend upon the exigencies of the service; but if not, he to take steps fur sending them as far u the Caps Ceylon, where they could remain In good health until their seniors were required with their regiments at the seat of opsrationa. Under these circumetancee he thought he should not be justified in asking parliament now for a very large sem for the embodiment of the militia. Of comas it would be in the power of the government to come to terliament at any time and ask for an increase of the vote, :old to increase the force should events occur rendering such a course fleet:emery ; and there was some advantage in that mode of proceeding, inasmuch as it would afford to par liament the opportunity of expressing Its opinion as to the propriety of the demand. AI at present advised, the somber of men they would ask parliament to vote was sufficient for the service of the country. That part of the vote fur the sin- Wisest of the militia they considered also sufficient, be lieving that with this 150,000 i. they would be able to embody the WM fee a sufficient time, and to allow them to return to their beans when It we. moat desirable that they should have the opportunity dew* their ordinary occupations. The Earl of HARDWIC KR said he did not think this was a time when they ought to be unprepared for any accident that might occur. A militia form that had been called coat but Sr a few weeks only could scarcely be expected to be very efficient, and would require to be put under decipher for mine time before they would become so. He could not help thinking, thcref,.re, that a larger embodied militia force would be desirable. When he looked to eircumatmares of which they were all aware, and heard it asked of the Home of Commons whether it was their twen ties to offend the Emperor of the Preach by the tone they adeptel—when he heard language like that used by the abbe Minister of the Crows to the Home of Commona.4o merteinty did lead him to think that the eats of our foreign relations was not altogether so satisfactory as could be wished. (Hear, bear.) And when he remembered also that we had another war—carried en with what object or for what pur ees. tbep did not knew, bat which would absorb much of our arias at relief to the regiments serving in India and the ecendes—b• thought It was a time when the government might he.. ventured to ash for a larger sum than 150,0001. br tie embodied militia. Under thee. circumstances, he speed *lib his noble friend who bad asked for these pipers, andsisseld be &peed to support the government if the Pg le be a little lees sear ne this matter. (Hear, hear ) C al lehrea were agreed to. LAW OP BANKRUPTCY. LeeS BROUGHAM Introduced is bill for effecting various demene in the pressed jarisiction In bankruptcy. His lord ship deem ibrd some of the inceenveniescas of the present sees tees, theeldef of which was that throughout ez:. octanes.. dis trict of the comairy all the bankruptcy business was smear ray brae& Wore the court in London. From seven counties, enniimig the important towns of Norwich, Y arm e e th, ffauffemapten, and ßrighton the whole bankruptcy business wee Insetkt to the:central court. Merril Lord Brougher. =B remedy by giving a juriedictien in bankruptcy in illiehicts to the peewee county courts. A main object lithe UMW* Is to loodise the administration of the law of lieekrepaey is the same manner as the general administration of justice. The LORD CHANCELLOR would not promise to adopt the hill, but would give it his beet consideration. Lord Cement:J.. and Lord IV ZNALEYDALE concurred is the opinion that the whole law of bankruptcy required re- Thelon. Lord STANLEY of A LDERLEY said that the govern ment and the country were under great obligation. to the noble lord (Brougham) for the measure which he had placed upon the table. The subject was a moat iosportaat one, and one to which the government had given earnest attention. The bill which they hoped to introduce very shortly would meet many objections—especially, be might say. that In mein where the parties were desirous to wind up a beak rolantatily, proviime were contained for this object. Tit Ma wee then placed all the table end read a that time. Thdr lordships adjourned at soma eclock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THrRSDAY, PY.S. 18. The House met at four o'elcek. NEW MEMBER. Major GA VIN took 'be oaths and hie net for the borough of Limerick in the room of Mr. Serjeaat O'Brien. 1- 1. - 1 ite:l;44 ssaud - VA I. -Cr'