The Express. — London, England, 1849-05-15 00:00:00

'ft. iamurreetion, seppreesed in Dresden, bas taken reins is Voighland and the pine forests &a moan sis of the south-west. The loss of the manly in be btreet-fighting at Dreedea is stated at 130 killed and wounded, besili s officers. - - SECOND EDITION. Frost Me GAZETTE of THIS NIGHT. o rncz or OILDNANCII. NAT 112. bro re" nsi it.itert. or Artinery.—nee. Clip. W. flostuoteco. to be apt, vies net% vet. apes It.p. ; Vint Y. Ltooox b , to be see. Sept. rke itoodentoo ; Ss& UNA. 0. M. YAstact, to eAM lieut., oke Lemon. BANKRUPTCY ANNULLED. Titotras TERM, Sobers, Cambridgethin, victualler, 7h71 1 . BANKRUPTS. 301111 NAPTIBiLI HART, Kiss-street, Finibury•square, watch isar.seterer. Tactless FILIDARICK JAMISON, Soatt ampton, auctioneer. Jowl Suntan, Friday.etreet, Cheapinie, City, ware.. beermaa. C ENSOLLE CIITIL, PaddiErollllffell, victualler. EI CYABL RICEILIDSON, irottegboat, twitch soaker. DICKENS FIELD, Freese, Sommetattiro. lineodtaper. TOMLIN* ROBINSON. Ripon, Y..rkthire, ifOILIOISEdsr. limos DewobaLy, Yorkehise. bone lambast. m ust NONTII, Spilsboy, Lineointhire, innkeeper. boss Tcssavu.. Sairhororsh,Yorkehiredicesarsper. Joss Licosa', Holyhead, Ans!esey, draper. COMMARCIAL 4 MARKIST.S. MONEY MARKET m CITY INTELLIGENCE. a. lkw eiCloek.—The intelligence from Canada had a 14 prejudicial effect on the English funds this morning. go At the opening of the market Consols we . e quoted at 904 to 1; but they gradually became firm, and are , sow quoted 901 to 1 foe money and amount. The se Three per Cents. Reduced an quoted at 891 to 1; ... and the New Thee - ad -Quarter per Cents., at 901 tee to WI. Bank Stock is quoted 192 to 4; and Exche quer Bills at 455. to 480. prem. se 12i There is likewl . e a worn feeling in the foreign is market. Spanish and Bones Ayres are both lower, n and there is very little business doing. The talon iag 'y; an the quototiots of the leading securities:— ss Belgian Fourend•a•Half per Cents., 79 to 81. Is Brazilian, :8 to 80. Buenos Ayres, 94 to s 4 7. hiezieen, 281 to I, ex coupon. Chilies, 91 to to S. Equsdor, 3 1 to t . Peruvian, 60 to 3. Ports. ' /9•44 Converted, 28 to 9. gurus, 103 to 5. Spanish 444 si Five per Cents. Actives at 16t to 171; the Threes at 11:4 321 to 331. Dutch Two -a-Half per Cents. at se 49 to 50; and the Four per Cents. at 761 to 7714 Ls Cos.fm 11NOL1211 I C DS. 11•44 Stmt.= 4 t. .kee, 101 l DI 14 1 pr I 3 per V i r sq.t eto. PA I 33 3 333 C - Veal. Ao m rot.l , ll 1 mu, tit to Olt Mot 93 12014Z1014 ITUNDIL 6446 Ct. AsOztoo side. 1 par Ct. Gem& 4.164 I 16 4 44 pot et Mo. Wait Is 11l Orem& Delsemol ii i ii‘ s., 8 IS 41 vet °tot .16to, 6 per Ct Soo. NI apse et. !Omaha lat.lllls 6 per et Pirodoo .1 3 et DIM Nem TT 1 Pommes Co• 4 93 6 r ia tt csa numoo s tynt i llito. $4 T tg , Ct. lota s t i : 4 o3 l ll 23 23 1 Dttto U Dd. Dia. 3 per Mb lids 3434 114 ealookl=lfie se. Hi ini. iiienvoilta.:— *.. 64 i is 4 Is irgiti. D... Da... • • rproWira=ss T ss 4 ser et VW& Corsa.* 34 Yaws& Wend Ma. 3 I ... PRODUCE.—.NINCINO-LANE. Half past Two.— 14 41; The Bogor gales are progressing readily, et about last week's 30 earreacy. The refined market st. ady ; grocery lump., 511. 61. to 53.. 6d.—Coffee : The import ers held the g ood or- 1414 dinary native Ceylon for higher prime, and bought them I. at 335. • the Ist cleat, dammed, sold at 31.. to 31.. 6d . —Riee: The la rge public sales went otf with spirit; good and flue 17 Bengal sold at about 6d. advance, 10a. 6i. tolls. 641. ; a part, 80 wry Sae, 12s. The low qualities sold at previous ratite.— 23 Pimento 14 at full prices, 31 to 31 per lb.—Bnm steady.— gl Cotton IMO' .—Tra inactive, the trails mai ing for the im public sales ea Thursday rent.—ln other articles no mate- ;so vial alteration. 30 28 TALLOW.—The market is very firm at our quo- i t a sad hurlers of new for the last three months and 41 anotably deliveries abundant. Petersburg Y. C. on th e if amt. 38e. 9d to 395.; October to Domineer delivery, 395. to 20 3515. 841. sepirste nseates' delivery, 395. ad. to 40e. Ire CORN.-Arrivale et the granaries, by the FAMern 30 Counties Railway, for the week ending day 13 : 30 W Malt heat or - et„ WM seeks. Oa 339 , Nod Ctarmieeseee, May 14.-Our market was again very dull, and last week's prises were barely maintained. The HIV* 30 Barley offering Was at farmer quotations. Wheat, from 101. 10 to 11 1.16 e. per load. Barley, 231. to Ws. Oats, 18.. to 241. 3 Dostevirrnt, May 12.-There svas only a moderate 'apply la of Who'd shows this morsing. The slight improvement at 20 Wakefield vest, r.lay caused oar farmers to ask advanced ;l utes; and for fine white samples 6d. per three bushels ; was ("Wined is many instances; en other qualities last to week's prices were current, with a steady demand, and • et. pretty good clearance effected. Beaus are sought after, and 60 Tether d . Oats unaltered in value. The malting season 40 161 nearly over, and very little Barley offering. H DLZIOIII. May 14.-We wen moderately supplied wit. grain to-day ; very little besides Wheats, and of that only sufficient for the millers who usually attend the market. The 16 prices for best flu-allies are just on • par with lut week's. Only a chance sample of Spring Corn, and no alteration is 100 any of them. 25 Lawsuits, Ms, 12.-The market fairly supplied with all 23 kinclsof pain. Wheat Is. to 24. per qr. lower ; cossiderable 121 Demises done; sprit; corn without alteration. 10 DAWIZIC, Ids, 8. -Yesterday W had an extra fine lot of fiv 200 lasts Sandomir Wheat in the market, weighing 621 b. to nib.; 44e. 81. was the price at which it was limited, and I;', i this not being obtainable, it wentfirantediately to granary, on IF importers' account. Fine mixed, 621 b., was held at 405., sad an rarer of 39. refused ; common mixed, 611 b., fetched 39e. 21 Of Upper Polish, flee mixed, a lot of 80 lasts is limited at • el price equal to 435. Factors have in most instances imam. tions not to sell at all. In Poland the large growers rebels so from selling, on account of the bad appearance of the crops, at. owing to the continued cold and enseueeable weather. Si milar complaints are heard here. Vegetation is uncommonly Ms backward ; temperature during the night not higher than 41 to 42 deg. of your scale. To-day no sales have been effeited. e D Offers of 38e. for 1100 mixed, 621 b., Wheat, were again re- le hoed. OALATZ, April 21.-The transactions of the fortnight now 13 sadism have reached Dearly 10,150 qrs., at various prices, 1 according to quality. At the don of the week there has been lees inquiry, and the prisms maybe called lees firm. so The following are the rates current, vs : Soft Wheat. Ist se quality, 22 7d. to 23e. 101. per qr., I. o. b ; 2nd, 21s. to 21s. 10J.: 34, 17s. 9d. to 19e bd.; hard, Ist, 25a. 10d. 11 Stock, 36,200 qrs. of of Wheat; 2,200 gra. hard. At Drell, the quality of Wheat has turned out inferior , and it I T is generally not fit for shipment, being damp and very Cares 33 lusty threshed. lodise Cern : In the beginning of the 151 closing fortnight buyers kept back, on account of the un favourable advisee from England and Ireland; latterly, *I however, these advice. have been more satisfactory, and this circumstance, as well as the arrival in the Danube of a large number of vessels, and the low freights now ruling here as 10 well as at Constantinople, besides the fear that the 20 sarlies from the interior might be checked on account of to the cuts being taken up for the transport of troops, 10 has caused • feudal, in consequence of which some buyers 3 : pressed rather too eagerly on the market, and paid higher 11 prices, principally for contracts for dslivry at the end of 12 April and , in May. The purchases were of new earn, which 221 is coming freely to town , and amounts to at out 5,800 kilos., 31 er 8.120 qrs. Other treaties are on foot,but purehaseeseeem unwilling to pay the same rates. In old corn nothing doing. rt, The following are the quotations : Old Indian Corn,lse. lo to 18s. Id. per qr. f. o. b. ; new, from warehouse. tin 11d. to he 16s. 3d.: from carte, lbs. 10d. to 16e. B'ock, 16,000 kilos. ID or 21,000 qrs. At Dwell the animas to the presest tiro; have been of mix.d Core, not fit for • long voyage; 110W0T0r. the quality le general will be satisfactory, and heavier than s. wind. Prices are foe the present higher in proportion than se here. Rye is la more demand, and Ds. Id. to Its- 7d. pot 16 qr. f. to. b. hoo bees offered and. refused. Stock, 10,150 qrs. Is Liaised and Barley nothing done, and no stocks. 3 sy 4 HAY.-81nutrIELD.—Messrs. Cooptr and Davie milts trade heavy, at the rolioviee quotation: Waal , TOs. M ids. I llowee.. W k to fe.. . SOL to 30s. et. ...... Ms. tons Clem .. SOL to 95.. I 23 CATTLE, &o.—Total of Cattle received in Loam, ss by the Rastas Counties Railway, for the nevi' 'nabs !lay "'" „. aneete, 2,059 ; Calves, 136 ; Sheep, 3,527 ;Pip, 365 25 Dainet.av FAIR, May 14.—This annual tar was set so 35 well stbsnded by the dealers I. cattle as it usually is, in cos set:some of Use day falling apes Sunday, and being held on ilieeday, the Mail day as Huddersb:ld and Rotherham hire sr% bold upon. Yet we had amoderate slow of Bones ; for ma g ood ones, which were very few in number, goo d mime wore obtained. Milk Cows were few in number, and 21 , soil at pelf's from 101. to 131. cub. Tilers wets stereely any Drapes or 'ono" cattle 'bows. Pigs were rather sumentse ; Porkers sold at from sa. 9d. to is. id. per stone. le We Rimer rossember Saresloy May Fair so badly attended 3 1 1 se it WWI this year. Them wire no ettrosdess whatever ; toe the holiday people, and the showery este of the weather ID mass' the street. to be thialy attended. tp Cousserss, May 12.—These was s large show of stock st what twig, sad nottrithetanding there kept s i n& 'Maul. lam al termer% the &laud wee sat • very`est majority of lb. Boosts sad ea szella sZa ambit ollasid although the dealers were willing to amide to still further dislising prices. Yet stock smolt divests& say notice. A few Wes were forced in fat Boasts, the prises . ot. sno w= 2.. 104. per stew of gib., to which*. bar" n l uotan tlyoada. MilebCows keep up in vslR.. Is Pigs there was so partisalsz oheratioa of value. Shoop and L a mbe, 4,360; Bests, 322 ; Pigs, 216; Calves, 30; Monet. 30. Ifoswict, May 12.—Sereff ham fair tellin as lish day, bat few store aids wore os over, sad the MIAS samba moo st tmoqul to lis t ,at L .:, o w s. ith ror mit a dovv t ozo:. Fat Nub 3db ii ice s =l 611 &no la sold. TM par Well badly Aim, sa d lioassis or Sheep of may ldad. lfe tat Sheep worth seder. - Ron Pigs from 255. is SOL per bad. FaS Pork 6s. So NAIL re shoe el le& HILSO MONTHLY M/4111LIFT.—W 4 I hod a vary large sup ply of fat Can's ou Thursday, mazy of the lom being of a superior quality. The attendance of buyers, especially from the tooth, wm eonsider ble; end as there was a dispoeitios on the part of hold , n to sell, the principal lots soon against owners at an improvement on the pekes of last moodily market. Steers irons se. 3d. to 6s. 9d. per stone. The show of grazing boost was small, but so little business teas done that we are usable to quote prices. The market was nearly filled with cows. and the supply being more than the demand many were left unsold. Prises ranged from 71. to 121. Owl. g to the great deficiency of grass, the number of Sheep brought forwsrd wn unumally loge, and, as might be ex pected, the demand was heavy. Mutton, clipped, 4fd. to 6].; rough, 61d. es 64. The numbers wen: fat Cattle, 235; keeping cattle, 47 ; Sheep, 1,533; Lambs, 40; Cows, 130. RAILWAYS. Two o'Clock.—This is the name.day in the share wariest, and, being a " bear" account, prices are rather higher in some instances. Midland shares Sr. quoted 66 to 67; Eastern Counties at 8 ; bat York and North Midland ate again lower, the feeling of distrust re garding the management of the affairs of that com ipany hating much increased within the last few days. a ,Var." Wes to-day up ( I to 1 °Week. Pd. I Buns RAIIMATIL 41 diModem Proforma .. •Aaborpai DoSSO4O O os , Dram a Foot. Joao_ 11 Dodo sod Hants Esau. 1 04. Western pormtal 6;1 J calodaly paid, or oda goonaos 20 Do.without • 14 Dbalfolv., m Stour IS 111047,fr0ir., sad oda oft FDA ce l la 10 Do. Masa a mann 3 Doom, Mamba. sitad Lois . 16 == .161. . 111 Dr. Imes 10 Do. 410 Proforma ... SO Olioseer sod Holyboad IS De. ProOrram Ida Della rad Mart Jam- SS Bat Mead yu L. 68 oak Sr D. 111 Erna MOM( le ear_ll.) D0.(31.104)6 o.rra 10 Ihrotors Dorados 10 Do Now Gorr. 6 for et. Do. lat., Spas ot., 143.1 61 Do. do. 140.1 SO Do. x. J< E. 3 per ant. 17i to lei PM 41+1 dia. 43 Do. - L a nt E l te r m i.ll.ll.j ims .. 254 . dos C. ditto... lie Dek=r. 6p.Ct.) SI Do. New ... ... 114 D . do. 4 alum— . II Do. ill pa et. Pref. i mi. SS NM Llesdambitii ... N Dlisivrijaad Illaigew, SO Ds 4 Aims .. ... .. 24 guts% Yawn; t Dune- MI Northers ... _ . . ... . -. L reit _ 114 Ds.. irreg. A,Deforrod 74 Dra.f=l, II per et 4 De. 0 Sagan and wait: 2 4 21 4 n si 101 11 4 4= A" S 4 n IS 11 die. = s le dia. e 27f a le die. I le le paa. 14_ 111_ lit lif 33 30 die. 2i I 7 1 1 le 1 1 poi. 31 411. pm. las. 34 is 13j 1 11 pm. 17 11 a. 17 11 E. Is 19 ii ii 5 "si ar. 21 21 die. I + 16 pm u . 26i 4 424 6 4 Ma Ms. 9 dfL i dts. 1 db. ct o rest —I" g i rt i ll l IM ogiWod .. . 33 Do. New, t4 O ... .. SO Do. New, ClO ... .. 14 Do. New, £l3 ... .. IMO rest Western... ... .. 13 Do. New, Ali ... ... 30 HMI and Selby ... ... ... 95 Da 4 shares ... ... .. 14 Do. f shares ... ... ... SO Lanesiter Cad Cerliele .. 10 Do. Thirds . OS Leaselelte sad iorieablee 11l _ll 2909 49 31 pa. 36 38 pis. 15 20 pm. 77 79 38 39 14 7 1 l ey Os. 6 dis. 94 95 43 46 43 3 0 9 3 9 Pm pa db. 3 113 211 dls. 16 14 di.. 3 7 (Us. S 41 dls. 2 I 19 dia. 10f 91 614. If 1 pa. 6 114 36 38 4 5 pm. 94 96 20 22 30 24 db. 41 41 Pia 37 31 3 1 51 63 Ite Do. II Ds. 'lithe 111 Do. Sixteenths . 13 Do.Tblida . 10 Do.Nsw (guar . ..6 per et.) 11 Do. West !tiding Unice 13 Do. Prestos and Wyrs 114 Do. 30 Leeds mad 30 Lode sod Thlrek 41 Ds. New 111 WNW' ll2d 21;a:a 30 LoodoWß/Wittoo.W3outi Do. paliite . i s . per et - leieDroyd SO Do. Pre. 3 per Cen t„.. IS Do-Preer/wet. Convert. 6 per f oast., 1131 3 Do. New t 3 goar.Gp.CL 171 Lembo aod Otorow.eo 36 Do. Preforms, WI Lesko Narth.Vi..ters 7 Po. do. Pew gums -3 Dr. Paths 1 Do. sioa.,ilineik.(ej 30 Lcia4ca & South-Western It Do. New, CSO $4 Do. New 40 ... 161 Do. Thirds 3 Do. New kelp, 1348, p ref. 7 p. et. ow de. posits& S p.et. on calk Itaaebooter, Balt" and Matlock . . . 100 Pleselaerter.sl4elSeid, aso Ltooolorhire . Do. 23 Do. sham, No. 2 . 124; Do. shares, No. 3 .. 10 Do., New £lO PreL 60 Do., Great Ortzobj and 61 U 1,1 1 2 1 111 117 - i P•L pm. 13 34 iii ii ow 15 1$ dis. 51 3f dis. f li. Si Si dim. 311 38 9 7 die. 9 10. 101 ;ill 17 DOtiTT. Int Do. do. SO DO. g stied .. ind IS Do. CdimAS Dock . 41 Do. litmer sod St SS dia. II It db. II I T. 15 14 Ms. 15 14 dia. n al& 65 . 67. NO Medan ... ... ... .. 13 Do. /10 sham ... . 100 Do. Birmingham and • i 100 Do. Dirbi Comoltß ir4 iiisia 'Rodlike', 6 per NM 13 Dm Nso 'ASO ..„ .. 90 Dia. Osman. 3 par mot 3 D. Clasrso. SI per seat. Do. ... ... ... 174 Sordtilesilisdsblre ... .. SO Oast* Wareaster, and 13 BMW Mail Wihell =.l . ,. 34 Revlon sall lilleoba ... 2$ losltia Wiled ... .. 23 lootali Mama II lasorosim amil Birsiog. 7 Do.. QM 2 . . 8 Do. , Sow COMMMIsme_ - la Ihroildrary imil 22•81 us 1% Do. Doirratry ... .. 1 Do. Now.. ,,, 10 sb D ro o , .= doa. Pa ... Dann 1 7. South Stalkotrairo.„ ..- $9l north Zamora ... .. 7. II Do. N. 1 ... ... .... 47 Ds. No. 1 m ... .., 10 DM ... No. 4 ama 10 Do. No. 4 M ... 36 South Wales , .. 6 Smith Yorkallre, 601;111. Br, mg Goole . 11. Bralierhana, and GooloNar,Damia.sp.et iii ii us. 42 44 I M F 1135 34 31 13 11 db. 171 14 11 13 5 L g S db. di li is I IS ge IS 11 II 71 lip 756 9 $ U 34 44 I 13 18 I I Ps. Pm U IS 12 14 30 40310tiod sad Kilkenny Ullladoor, Sudan, Jk South 30 Wow 4•41147. 6yr et:iptor. 23 Da do. d 0... .... lit Dw do. d 0.... 43 WM; damersetoild Vier. el 6l 41 db. I If pas. 1 di s. 1 dls. 71 al. 1 2 As. 4 115 dia. 10 IS IS IS 3 44 did. 20 51 13 11 13 IS di. IS N. 4 aii. si 8 ak. sii Imo. 23 Tork,:frwcootlet Berwick 20 Do. Lotosoio ) a (York 1 Nowoodlo S Do. G.N.P. Iltraisso or Pnlnsa $ Took acd North IlidlaadL. le Do. Proforma' IS Do. Zoo 1 Woe ItkUng 117 II 94 7j H+4 61 db. 4 4 &A I3* I 4" 4 5 pia. 12j I 19 196 7f IR die. 6 11,1 dia. 26 $1 Ilia Ile 1$ 4 e 44e Noel% 4 ii — se ea Poston RAILWATS. •A 1810.1 1211 6 . ( ) We Law SO Arldeel sos6s . egaleme awl Coded et rime ( !A Bubb . • Peet lobes r:62:iik lee. Ds. le Da . . Se ;tearer ;se le Maribor' arm» .. 7 oil le Paris see Meer le Preened Seen le Pens ea reaftri Se Ems ume Bore SI 111111 MUM 11 eel Seger 41 il di. 7 74 131 6. 14 k. i par r si a per I = Pro• PI I db. 1 2k 2 db. 4 db. 22 if s 1 I die. .10 3 4 . .. ii ii aw. In man= fIAIM, MAT 14. L lam Qom, 4 Lod. and 8. Wotan 1111:44 P lass. sod York. (Y., 8., and B.) Lid , @bee, add 1,184. (Sod and 4 11.18 Um.), 14 11.18 d Do. Pref., 8441 . Z. sad Dow 'Mika, No. 4, II Lembo rid w•ders CllB, 1L Wharilak, lid 40 4 L (C). P 818111140114311 SALE!, MIT 14. 844184delalte, Si Bs. 'd. d I ernes. sad ans. 8, 41 TOIL SAUL X 44 14. Gnat 144441 7 ina Tcdt, Nimes, k (Nevus. N. 11rdisit m), 18 De. QM. Si Do. L L L Pim. 4 THE TXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, MAY 15, 1849. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—MoNDAY, MAT 14, The LORD Cassocrumn took his seat at 6 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. SECOND READING.—Bradf wd Waterworks Bill. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. PROTECTION TO WOMEN BILL. —By the Bishop of LONDON (14), from various places, and by the Earl of RIPON, from several pleas; the Earl of ABERDEEN, from plums in Scotland; the Earl of CARLIS Leeds ; Lord ELPRINSTONE, several, in favo LE, ur of this bal. Aorturourtram , Dinnies.—By the Earl of STRAD BROKE, from numerous places,.complainine of agrieul tend distress and for relief; Lord FEVERSHAEL, from Pocklington and other places, to the same effect; and attri buting the *Mating distress to the repeal of the cora laws. NAVIGATION LAWS.—By the Earl of STRADBROKI, from various Owe against the alteration of them laws. BANZRUPTCY AND INSOLVENCY LAWS. —By Lord WHARNCLIPFE, from Ripon, Wthefield,Sheffisld, and other places; Lord BROUGHAM , from the Liverpool Guardian Society for the Protection of Trade; on the subject of these 1 ars. BANKRUPTCY AND INSOLVENCY BILL.—By the Earl of CARLISLE, from York and ',rids, against this bill. Entrcrenow.—By the Bari of CARLISLE, several from Lancashire, on this subject. AITIRICATIONS INSTEAD OF OATHS —By the Duke of ARGYLL, from *habitants of Daikeith, Baptist Church of Pile, Independent Church of Edinburgh and elsewhere, for the substitution of affirmations instead of oaths, in the case apemen' having conscientious scruples against the latter. RATE IN AID BILL.—By the Marquis of LONDON DERRY, from Nerrtownarde, against this bill. PORTPATRICH AND DONAGHADEE. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY, pursuant to no**, asked, whether it was the intention of the government to keep up the stations and communications between Portpatrick *ad Donegbadee ? It had been the opinion of the Admiralty daring three sumiessive government., that thorn packet stations should, be kept up. The communication was very impartant, and the more so on accountof the railways; if the poduthed lines were carried cut, letters from London would aaasi Dublin quicker by Port ostrich than any whir routs. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said upon inquiry into the @abject, he found that the government did not think they we authorised in incurring any furthi r expenditure with saihnence to the ports to which the noble marquis had alluded. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that, by *swum which it was intended to take, there would be a clear saving to the revert'' , of 4,0001. a year, while the communication would be better carried on through another channel. POOR-LAW COMMISSIONERS IN IRELAN i). The Earl of LUCAN wished to know whether it wee true that Mr. Power had been appointed a poor-law oommis loner ? And if so, whether it was a permanent appoint ment, or not ? • The Marquis of LANSDOWNE replied, but in too in audible a tone to enable us to give his answer. INVASION OF ROME. Lord BEAUMONT roes to ask the question of which he had given notice, namely "If her Majesty's government had received any communication from the French govern ment of their intentions in eccupyieg a portion of the Roman territories ; if it has received any communication from the Austrian or Neapolitan governments as to their intentions in invading the Roman territories and states; and if her Ma jetty's government has taken any part in promoting this tri. partite invasion ? " Before he proceeded he begged to ask for Were., for he was afraid he could not make himself heard it the conversation which usually took place both within the house and in those portions of the building which were considered not within the house, were allowed to rroceed. (Hear, hear.) lie wished bridly to refer to the events which had led to the circumstances which rug gated the questions he was about to put. Alr for back as the very hour at which the present supreme pontiff mounted his throne circumstances took place which it was foreseen must inevitably lead to the result they now witnessed in the Roman territories. It woe well known to all who ever studied the state of Italy that misgovernment under Nieces- Sire popes had brought that country cots such a state that nothing but the strongest power could prevent its rising in a mess against the government. During the reign of Oreaory XVI. thousands had been improperly expended, the prisons were every where crowded, and the whole feeling of that country was alienated from the constitution. The moment the present pontiff ascended the throne a accedes ernes ha his council whether they should pursue the line of racy which had been adopted by his predecessor or should attempt some modification of the then existing system. The latter course was determined on ; but the difficulty of carrying it out in states governed as Rome was appeared to be very great. Even then the wisest people in Rome foresaw that if the slightest concession was granted It must lead to, the total separation of the temporal from the spiritual power of Rome. The attempt to adopt a more liberal policy was made, but in a manner of all others the most impracticable. It was pro pthed to have lay councillrre, and yet to maintain the sneer • dotal power. The Pope would not admit of anything vela& would do away with his temporal power, and beyond the mere listening to the measures proposed the lay councifie- had no powei No mese WY tits ippeorance of conceriu made—for it was nothing nom, there was no real liberty is it—than in the surrosoding states of Italy revolution took place. The Roman people then claimed he have same of the privileges which had been conceded to other states—they asked to bus some portion of the liberty conceded to the Neapolitans ; but to this th e whole body of the cardinal were appose d, and declared that no concession should be made. Fear alone induced the pontiff to make some *suasion on the subject of education. He allowed the lay councillore to meet and debate, but denied them any Nealr rive power. What he granted, therefore was given atainst his will, against the advice of the sardbials, and, no doubt, with the mental reservation, that, when a fitting occasion presented itself, the step should be retraced, and the supre macy of the clergy be maintained in the Roman states, and the laity be de:wived of those privileges to which the pontiff thought the clergy alone were entitled. The pope then called to his council a man in whom the people of Rome had not the greatest confidence—a man who had been exiled, branded as a rebel, eacommunicated, and who bad abandoned the catholic and adopted the Lutheran faith. He bad become an inhabitant of another country, and was employed as the ambassador of that country to the court of Rome, when the Pope made ,him his prime minister. One of the first measures of that minister was to endeavour to retrieve the confused sate of the finances, aad he saw no other way of doing so than that of mortgaging the estates of the church ; and be was proceeding to the assembly when he fell—the victim of an assassin. He sincerely lamented the death of Rossi—(hear, hear) — and although a feeling of joy was exhibited in Rome at the event, he must say that he bad the strongest evidence that none of those men who after wards came into power had any participation in the fatal crime, or the expression of rejoi cing that followed it •; but, on the contrary, they deeply lamented the death of Rossi. (Hear, hear.) The moment he fell, the cardinals thought they might retrace their steps, and the plan for 'king so was drawn out; bat the scheme was discovered in time, and the people to • man roes against it. They did not, however, threaten the life of the pontiff ; they said, on the other hand, that they would rather die on the steps of his pace than a hair of his head should be injured. They, however, asked him to send away his minis. ter, to disband the Swim regiments, and to take an oath to the form of the government which then existed. He de clined to assent, because it allowed laymen to propose mea sures ; and he was advised to leave Rome. Now, there was no doubt that if he had done so in the face of day, no at tempt would have been made beyond entreaties to prevent it; but unfortunately, he left Rome in a manner which showed a want of confidence in his subjects. Lord BROUGHAM here made some observation which did not reach the gallery. Lord BEAUMONT resumed : He had the greatest for what fell from the noble and learned lord generall;M: on this subj ect be believed it was impossible to fathom his motives. ( L'iud laughter from all sides of the house.) His assertions again and spin ware contrary to the facts- and he thought it would not be long before the noble and learned lord heard that his assertions were falsehoods — Lard BROUGHAM (with great excitement). I rice to garter. aia l bare allowed the noble baron to go on in the *oat manner for some time. • NOBLE PEER—It is not irregular. Lord BROUGHAM—I say it is most irregular. TM male baron puts a question and prefaces it with a Bug ZwitThe only office of the speech is to make the per telligible—but to make a long speech and refer to WWI was never beard of before, and to say that any noble Wire onsettions were falsehood s, is most irregular; and Was& He noble and learned bed, with gnat vehemenc*, liming over the table towards Lord Beaumont) I receive the statement, from whomsoever it cum, with the mat absolute contempt. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) Lord BEAUMONT—I am doing what the noble and learned lord has void I am entitled to do, I am endeavour fog to mike the question intelligible; and if my 'preface Lambe= longer then it otherwise would have been, it is in imequence of the noble lord's erroneous statements on this walsiect. Lord BROUGHAM (with inclosed warmth)—l ask whether it Is orderly for one noble lord—upon the informs tka of an Italian, I don't know who—to accuse another peer of parliament of uttering falsehoods? He must either retract or apologise—not to me, for I despise it (a laugh)— but to you chi Lord BEAUMONT—I said the statements pat forward were falsehoods, but I did not suppose that they were the imbibes& of the noble and learned lord. (Hsu, hear.) If I bed used a milder word it would have meant the same thing. (A laugh.) I might have used the word mis statentent"—perhaps I ought not to have used the word " takokoed," sod I therefore willingly apologise for having used tie word—(hear, hgar)—but my object was to show that slay of the statements which went forth to the public wen sea in accordance with the truth. (Hear, hear.) [The sedio bird then resumed his narrative.] It appeared, Am eta prodamation of General ()sabot, that the Pi m* wast, sat to impris any former government N the Romans, but to prevent the advance of the Anstrisas. The Roman people believed it, and were =au inclined to hail the French as brothers and Needs time enemies ; bat, when they arrived before Rome, • te eny different proclamation was made public, and from that fomentan entirely different feeling had ex isted. When it 111111 known that they had come to restore the government of as Por i the people of Rome were opposed to them. (Hear, WO It was impossible to restore the present power with tire la back te pure ebullitions ; and he spoke the of illieaa when le said that, for the oaks of reLl- eon, if on no other ground, the temporal power of the I op should hely to know whether any communication had been nide to her Modesty's government as to the intention of Iliet French government, bemuse their proclamations contra deed each other; so their professions were opposed to their talons. With regard to Austria, he did not know yet that die had violated the Roman States. She, however, had a fight to go into Tuscany, and at present had not advanced beyond the Tuscan States. Another power, however, had iaterpmed—namely, the King of Naples—he who so loudly protes'ed against any attempt to interfere with him and h it sacrificed subjects. 'Whatever might be his motives, he had violated an independent state, for he was now mar ching home ; and, therefor*, he (Lord Beaumont) wished to know whether any communication had been made to • ber Majesty's government as to the motives for this extraordi nary conduct ? and further, he wished to know whether her Majesty's government had taken any part with ref to it ; whether they bad remained totally indifferent, or whether they had made any suggestion with reference to them proceedings • and finally, whether they approved of the steps which these powers had taken ? The Marquis of LANSDOWNE had felt unwilling to in , tweet his noble friend in the long observations which he thought it uneasy/ to make in prefacing the questions which he had just put. But he must my, that he did not consider' that this was the fit time to enter into any retrospect of the I I events which had taken place in Italy, either with respect to the hopes and apprehensions which had alternately agitated the public mind in that country, or as to that moat deplorable event which had recently taken place at Rome. He begged, however, to have it understood, that whilst he avoided enter ing into any distension, he neither admitted the accu racy, nor complained of the inaccuracy of the state. ments which his noble friend had made, but to the questions which he had put, and which he (the Marquis of lonsdowee) believed were perfectly legitimate, he was able to give a very short and di.tinct answer. With reference to the F. inch government, an intimation on the subject was conveyed to her Majesty's government, he thought, on the 21st of April, through the medium of the French sunbassadm, who communicated the fact that hie government were about to send French forces to Civits Voc e:his, accompanied by a declaration, which bee Major es go vernment bad no reason to doubt at the time, that in sending that force the object of the French gov.rument was to pro. mote the pewee of Italy, and more particularly to promote the re-establishment of a constitutional and regular government at Rome. No suggestion bed been made by her Majesty's government, nor any particular concurrence signified. That communication, however, was limited to sending forces to Civita Vecchia; and no intimation was given of any intention to march upon Rome. With respect to the Austrian andNea. politan goverements, no communication whatever had been made from them as to the court which they had adopted ; and be was not prepared to state the opinioa which her Majesty's government entertained en the subject. With reference to the last question which the noble lord had put, the answer which he had to mike to it had already been elicited ; and he merely had to state that her Majesty's government had taken no put whatever in these proceedings He wished to refer to a question which a noble and 1 d lord opposite had put to him on a former occasion, with refer:nos to the alleged removal of works of art from Rome. He was re pented to have stated that he believed that none of the great works of art had been removed, but that IMO of the smaller ones might have been. Now, what he really did say wee, that it was impossible, he thought, that any of the treat works of art could he removed without its being known, but some of the smaller ones might have been. He, however, had no knowledge whatever on the subject. The Earl of ABERDEEN thought that, considering the great interests involved is the question, and the important* of dui event, their lordships had a right to expect more defi nite and precise information. The noble marquis had said that the object stated by the French government was the preservation of the peace of Italy ; but, surely, before her eillesty's government could have approved of a step which brought 20,000 French soldiers into the centre of Italy, they must have received some further information than anything so vague and uncertain as that which the noble marquis had stated. Why, one would have thought that a French force would be rattier more foreign than that of Austria. (Hear ) He thought something more positive was required than the statement of the noble marquis, which was of a negative character, neither approving nor disapproving of what had , been done. 'The noble earl opposite, the Lord Privy Seal, had been sent to Italy to counteract French influence at Rome, and with the assistance of Rossi, who was afterwards butchered, the noble earl succeeded ; but he believed, in taking that step, the noble earl had done much to dieeroy the liberty of Italy. He believed that it was impossible that such a mission, at such a time, could have been attended with any other effects than them which took place, namely, I Ithe perfect conviction of every porton who came tolhe noble earl with acclamation and rejoicing, when they retired from his presence, that he was prepared to join is driving the Aus teens out of Italy ; and therefore he thought the mission of the noble earl wee fatal to the freedom of Italy. (Hear.) In his opinion her Majesty's government were bound to have come to a much clearer understanding on the subject than they had. Earl MINTO said he was not going to enter into a general vindieetinn of his own conduct or to follow the noble earl who had just at down through the whole of his remarks; but the noble earl had suede one implication which it was necessary to deny, viz , that it was impossible from the nature of his (Berl Minto's) mission there, or the !gnaws which he h. Id, that any person could doubt that he was preparing to encourage, on the part of her Majesty's govern ment, the expulsion of the Austrians from Italy. He denied that anything of that mind could be collected from anything that he had said or done. On the contrary, he hod omitted no opportunity of stating that desirous as the government were of seeing a wholesome reform in Italy, there was one point on which their opinion and de'er ruination remained fixed—that they would be no party to, and would not encourage, tolerate, or approve any change of the territorial arrangements settled by the treaty of Vienna. (Heir, hear.) Lord BROUGHAM could bear testimony to the conduct of the noble earl in that house upon the occasion to which be had referred ; but of what had passed in Italy he knew nothing. Ifedoubtedly if the noble earl's mission had been for the purpose of keeping Italy from French interposition, he could not congratulate him upon its successful result. If they arked what was the motive for the French sending troops to Italy, he believed that the noble marquis knew just as much about it as the French government. He (Lord Brougham) believed, however, that he could explain the matter. The French wanted en expedition—that was what they wanted—a military expedition—some military glory— it did not signify how little, but some they must have—Al giers would not do any longer—it must be European to satisfy the amine, not of the people of France, but of the mobs of Paris. (Hear, hear.) The Marquis of LANSDOWNE entered into a brief ex planation, which was inaudible in the gallery. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY expensed hie belief that the great desire of the French government, and of the individual at the head of that government (who, in the most extraordinary position in which a man was ever placed, had not committed a sir gle fault), was the preservation of peace. I The noble marquis denied the statements that had been made relative to the demoralisation of the French army, and coo -1 eluded with en observation which caused considerable merri ment relative to his notde and learned friend (Lord Brougham) having fraternised with the recent expedition from this country to Paris. Lord BROUGHAM begged to arum their lordship, that he had nothing whatever to do with what he believed to be the meet absurd expedition that was ever carried on. (A I laugh.) He deprecated, beyond anything, as fatal to the peace of the country, any communication whatever ever being I held, by any foreign country and this country, except through the government of the country. That was a sacred principle which must be kept inviolate ; because if the ex , peditions of those people who went over merely to amuse themselves were to be taken as national expeditions or de putations—which they were not, because they were deputed by nobody—and any collision were to take place between the people there and those that went over, it might lead to bad blood and an ill feeling between the two countries. (Hear, hear.) Therefore, the rule was, that any communication which could take place must be, sot of individuals, not of bodies, not of deputations, but of the governments of the two countries. (Hear, hear.) The matter then dropped. CHAPLAINS IN FOREIGN PORTS. Earl NELSON brought in *DB relative to the appnint meet of chaplains in foreign ports, which wee read • first time. RATE IN AID. On the motion for going into committee upon this bill, The Duke of WELLINGTON inquired whether any progress bad been made in the bill for altering the size of electoral districts in Ireland; because it appeared to bill flat if that bill were brought forward, it would facilitate the paring of the present measure. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that no bill had as yet been brought into parliament on the subject, because, though it had partially attracted the attention of the go vernment, neither the committee of that house, *or of the other home, had yet reported upon the subject. He did sp. preheod that such a bill would be introduced, and he might state that he should be extremely sorry if it were not. After some conversation the house went into committee. On the first clause being proposed, The Bail of WICKLOW condemned the course of pro ceeding under the present bill, by which the collection of the rate in aid was mixed up with that of the pow rata. If there wee no objection in a constitutional point of view, be would suggest that the rate in aid be levied as a separate collection apart from the poor's rates; and if that suggestion were agreed to, he should then propose that the rate in aid should be imposed on the landlords only, giving the tenant the power of deducting it from the rent. The Earl of MOIINTCASHEL said that he should op pose this alteration, as the landlords in Ireland already paid I she gloater, part of the s poor's rates, which they were not justly liable for. The Earl of CARLISLE regretted that he could net consent to the proposition of the noble earl, who had himself foreseen the impediments which the forms of the constitaMma ' placed in his way, in respect to the suggested alteration of the bill. Lord hiONTEMILE said that, if the noble earl did not object, he should move, as an addition to the clause, that w ithin ten days after the meeting of parliament there should be laid upon the table of both homes an account of the amount collected under the Rate in Aid Bill, made up to the 31st of December, is each year of its collection, together with a detailed statement of the mode in which the amount had been expended. The Earl of CARLISLE said he had no objection to the amendment, provided it was conformable to parliamentary u sage, respecting which he would inquire. The bill then went through committee. The rrport was ordered to he brought up - - . day). The third reading was fixed for Thursday next. The house then adjourned. (this HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MoNDAY, MAY 14. The SExAnan took the chair at 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. SECOND READINGS.—Iouth Markets and Improve ment; Westhead's Patent (for improvements in manufac turing fur into fabrics) ; Bills. REPORTS CONSIDERED. Charing-cross Bridge (amendments of acts, powers to alter authori•ed approaches, &c.); London Gas Light Company (amendment of act) ; Bills. THIRD READINGS.--Caledontan Railway (purchase or lease of WiAaw and Celine.' Railway) ; York, New. castle, sad Berwiek Railway and Marypor , and Carlisle Railway (lease and amalgamation); York, Newcastle , and Berwick Railway (Newcastle-upon-Tyne and Carlisle Rail way lease and amalgamation); Bills. PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. PARLIAMENTARY OATHS BILL.—By Sir R. H. INGLIS, from th. clergy of the rural deanery . of Colesb ill ; Mr. FREWEN, from places in Sussex; —against this bill. SALARIES Or PUBLIC OFPICERS.—By Mr. J. BAILEY, from places in Herefordshire, in favour of the proposition for the reduction of salaries of public officers. RELIEF TO AORICULTERE.—By Mr. J. BAILEY, from places in Herefordshire, for Toilette agriculture. PARmAmENTART REFORM.—By Mr. BRIGHT, from Drayton, Eocleshall. Birelow in Sheffield, Whitburn in Scotland; Mr. COBDEN, from Todmorden, signed by 860 persons ;—in favour of parliamentary reform. MALT AND BOP Durum—By Mr. WOOD, from several phase, for the abolition of thesq GAME LAws.—By Mr. DUNCAN, from Dundee; Mr. BRIGHT, from the Convention of Rojo' Burghs, of Scot. land, signed by the Lord Provost of Edinburgh as chair man ;—for the abolition of the gams laws. CASE or Ma. Snoßa.—By Mr. BRIGHT, from Seabam Harbour; baptists of Wakefield; congregation of metho dists at Brighouse and hatters of London and Southwark; Sir J. WALMSLEY, from a plass not heard ;—for the relief of Mr. Shore, and for securing to all invading clergymen the full enjoyment of civil and religious liberty. Ramon DoNcx.—By Mr. EVANS, from Derby, against this rent. SHORT PARLIAMENTS. —By Sir J. WALMSLEY, from a place not beard, for shortening the duration of par liaments. TITHER—By Mr. HILDYARD, from Bridport, against the alienation of tithes. PUNISHMENT OP BEATR—By Lord DUNCAN, from Bath, in favour of the abolition of this punishment. SMITHFIELD MARIET.—By Mr. 0. GORE, from the inhabitants of Clerkenwell, for the removal of this market. Pa.szu Mmes.—By Mr. STANSFIELD, from a place not heard, for the repeal of these duties. PROTECTION TO WOMEN.—By Mr. COBDEN, from new connexion of Wesleyan methodists at Hamlet, York shire, against trading in seduction. REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS. &S., AND MARRIAGES (SCOTLAND) BILLS.—By Col. MURE and Mr. C. BRUCE, from places in Scotland, against these bills. IRISH EMIGRATION. Mr. J. O'CONNELL gave notice, that on the motion of Mr. Muntz respecting emigration, he should substitute that emigration, at the best, was but a partial, and most expensive remedy for the evils of Ireland, and it was more immediately necessary to endeavour to prevent the emigratba of small farmers, and that the house resolve them selves into a committee et the whole house to consider of further adman for the relief of distress in Ireland. REDUCTION OF TAXATION. Mr. DRUMMOND gave notice that on the first Tuesday titer the holidays he would move : That whereas a greater amount of taxation is levied upon the peo. pie than is required for the good and efficient government of the United Kingdom; and whereto; large sum l are expended in support. log needless places, extravagant aalaries, and unnecessary works and eitablishroents; and whereas the present taxation of the country de. preswa all CIV•9011, and especially the labouringclasses, by diminishing the fund for the employment of productive labour ; is the opinion of this house that adequate means should be adopted to reduce the expenditure of the government. DENMARK AND GERMANY Mr. DISRAELI said that Its bad made inquiry of go vernment some time since, whether, in consequence of the recurrence of hostilities between Denmark and Germany, they had any objection to lay on the table the negotiations, but the noble lord at the head of the government then stated that, notwithstanding the recurrence of hostilities, ne gotiations were actually pending under the mediation of the government for definite peace. He took this opportunity, as some time bed elapsed, of now inquiring of government whether these negotiations had been pursued under the me diation of the British crown, whether any project had been proposed by her Majesty's government to the plenipoten tiaries of Denmark and the central power of Germany, and whether the proposition, if any had been made by govern ment, had been accepted by both or either of those powers ? Lord PALMERSTON said that her Majesty's govern ment, notwithstanding the renewal of hostilities between the two parties, felt it their duty to omit no effort that might' by possibility contribute, either in the first instance, to the renewal of the armistice, or in the second, to the conclusion of a definite treaty between the parties, and accordingly it became his duty to make to the two parties a fresh proposi tion with a view to the establishment of an armistice. That proposition was still under consideration, and he was Me the house would feel that it would not be fitting in him to :go into particulars as to in what degree they were likely to be accepted by one or other of the parties, but he could state to the house, not only was the proposition for the renewal of the armistice under the consideration of the parties, but also they were :in communi cation with the two parties, with a view to the final settle ment and adjustment of the question between them. He felt that anything he might say, holding out hop", was likely to be misunderstood by persons whose commercial in. to rests were concerned, or to be misrepresented, if anything happened afterwards ; that he was sure the house would ex cuse him from making any statement, except the fact that they were negotiating for an armistice. BISHOPRIC OF HONG-KONG. Mr. B. Ogl3OltNE wished to put a question to the hon. gentleman, the Under Secretary of State for the Colonies, of which he bad already given him notice. In the Gazette of F.iday night he perceived that Hong-Hong had been con stituted into a bishopric. It might truly be said to be the foundation of a new Chinese see, for it .:tended 100 miles at sea He wished to ark his hon. friend what was the amount of salary, end from what fund it was proposed to pay the Bishop of HongMong, or rather Bishop of Victoria? Secondly, whether the outfit, transport, and palace of the bishop, or any part of the expenses, were to be defrayed out of the public exchequer of this country ? Mr. HA.WES, in answer to the question, begged to state that Hong-Kong had been created into \ bishopric ; that the bishop was paid out of the colonial bishopric fund, a fund entirely private. and arising from private contributions; that his salary was in no degree paid out of the public funds, nor had the Colonial-office any knowledge of his out fit. It had hitherto been customary to pay the passage of a bishop, and he had no reason to suppose that the practice would be departed from. Beyond that the public would be put to no expense. ANNUITY TAX (EDINBURGH). . . Mr. COWAN asked whether it was the intention of government to introduce any measure in conformity with the report as to the annuity tax in Etinburgh Lord J. RUSSELL said that the report had been lately received, and the propositions contained in it were under the considera.ion of government. The report was very ably drawn up. He could not state at present the determination of government. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Mr. S. WORTLEY moved that orders of the day have precedence of notices of motions on Thursday, the 7th day of June next. Finding it impossible to get any day for the ad journed debate on the Marriage Bill before the 7th of June, and considering that this was a part of the widen in which all Thursdays were given to the government. he did not think it unreasonable to ask for one Thursday for the adjourned debate. Mr. OSBORNE moved, se an amendment, that orders of ',the day take precedence of notices of motion on Thursday, the 14th June. Ministers, he thought, did not intend to ring in any more bills, and there were several important motions on the paper. The hon. member for the West Riding had had his motion for peace arbitration on the paper for three months. Mr. DISRAELI begged to remind the house that the other night, at an early hour, the hen. member for the West Riding might have brought forward the motion, and declined doing so. After having liberally conceded to the govern ment the use of these days, he thought the matter should be leR to the good sense and feeling of the government. Mr. HENLEY said that this was a question for the consi deration of the noble lord at the head of the government, for they were in a backward state as to motions of supply. The miscellaneous estimates were not yet laid on the table. If the government gave way to the allegation that the measure was of importance, the real business of the government would be postpone' sine die. Mr. COBDEN said that he was not called upon to bring on his motion until a quarter past 11 o'clock, after the honourable member for Surrey had finished his debate ; and he put it to the hon. member whether a Trifler put 11 was a proper time to bring forward a motion oa which a larger number of petitions had been presented than upon any subject now before the house. Mr.OOI3LBURN thought *stir government acceded to the motion, they would be setting a dangerous precedent. The house should lay down a general rule as to the days on which notices and orders should have precedence, and adhere to it. Lord J. RUSSELL felt great objection to the motion of the right hon. gentleman. He had proposed to the house, with a view to the more speedy and regular transaction of putlic business, that alternate Thursdays should be allowed for orders of the day and special orders of the day moved by government. Toe house having acceded to that proposition on the grounds which he then stated, he thought it would not be fair to the house if they were to accede to the motirs of the right hon. gentleman. The hon. members for Mid dlesex and Oxfordshire had made ern observations as to the present state of public business. Hs begged leave, in the tint place, to say that it was not at all to be inferred, from the number of bills before the house, that there would be no other bill which it would be necessary or expedient for go vernment to introduce. He had thought it tended more to the despatch of public business, instead of agreeing to the re quest of hoe. members to bring in the bills at once, that the attention of the house should be directed to certain bilk, and that they should be disposed of before other motion' ware introduced. In regard to supply, the hon. member far Oxfordshire was right in his statement that they were lase in many of the voter. As to the vote for the army, th e y had waited till this time to see whether the select committee would make any report on that branch of supply. Th ey had now informed Um. that they would not be able to go into the consideration of the army nt present, and theretore, tmltl now, they were not in a state to proceed with the votes as ' the army. Whilst he said that he could not vote for them. lion of the hon. gentleman, he must ark the hours to fulfil the arrangement to which they agreed before Easter, and allow goy, mutt nt to take the orders of the day. - • Mr. OSBORNE said that, after the speech of the noble lord, he should withdraw his amendment. Mr. S. WORTLEY understood that the feeling of the house was, that he should not persevere in his motion, and he would therefore withdraw it. Motion withdrawn. CASE OF W. S. O'BRIEN. Lord J. RUSSELL moved that a message be sent to tits Lords, requesting a report of the proceedings in the mu of W. S. O'Brien and others. Agree I to. LAND IMPROVEMENT AND DRAINAGE (In& LD) BILL. On the order of the day for the committee on this bin being read, Mr. ROEBUCK thought that was a very fair opportn. nity for expressioe his opinion respecting the general pone, of government, if he might attach the term policy to the COLITIS they were pursuing towards Ireland. lie had watched with great attentioa the conduct of government towards that unfortunate country, end he bad taken great pales to learn what was their general scheme of Irish policy. The public money had been sin nt ; he bad taken pains to prevent that expenditure, knowing that it was not spent in alleviating the misery of Ireland. That country had been in a mated distress for the last three years—he did not mean bet ordinary or chronic distress with which every one was familiar ; but that remarkable amount of destitution which had arisen from the failure of the potato crop. (Hear, hear.) About three years since they were suddenly informed by the government of the right hon. baronet opposite, that probably a famine was 'butt to take place in Ireland, that the potato was about to disappear. and that those who had been accustomed to live en that root would no longer be able to obtain as much food as would sustain nature. The right hon. baronet the member fur Tamworth, alarmed at such prospects, proposed the repeal of the corn laws; he sues ceded, and but for that success be (Mr. Roebuck) firmly believed that England would not now be able to contrast her tranquillity and prosperity with the scenes of terror and of blood which unfortunately pervaded the conticent of Europe. (Cheers.) The right bon. gentlemen soon seceded from his post, and the noble lord succeeded ham ; and what bad the noble lord since done? He bad a right to sac that question then, because the question before the house was only one out of many plans to take money out of the pockets of his countrymen for the amelioration of the state of Ireland. How had that state been brought about ? Why, the landlords of Ireland had been long sustained by that house, they had acquired a domineer:rig spirit, had become wasteful in their expenditure, and going habitually beyond their income had been obliged to burthen their property to maintain their vanity. (Hear, hear.) Thee bad done me thing more, and here was the sore spot in the axial condi tion of Inked. They . had allowed parties to c--me and offer high rents for small teems of land, thus dividing their pro- perty into small bolding, ; and the persons whom they ac cepted as tenants were rely able to pay their rects by liv ing on the lowest species of food which would sustain human nature—namely, the potato. At length that wretched dspentlaace failed, and now the Irish proprietors found themselves hampered with a numerous population suddenly deprived of their only food. (Hear, hear.) He objected to the noble lord's mode of meeting the emergency. If the noble lord had applied for the means of supporting the Irish people for two years, end in the mean time had sot them to the cultivation of the land, but not for the produc- tion of the potato, they might have been rescued from their degradation. They should know the numher that was likely to be destitute. Every one in Ireland was net miser able, but certainly the destitute comprehended a large pro portion of the agricultural population. How much money had they expended already, and in what state had that ex penditure left the people of Ireland ? (Hear, hear.) He was afraid to enumerate the millions which the ecuntre had spent in the sunport of the Irish populaton. (Hear, bur.) And when he .poke of the Irish population, he took his range from the highest to the lowest, and he did not find any practical difference in any of them. They were all agreed upon one point, and that was in the desire to live without labour, (" Oh, oh," from the Irish members.) Gentlemen might cry " oh." but English people had to pay ; and therefore he decried that desire, which the government of this country bed done so much to foster. That feeling had unfortunately extended to all classes in Ireland, and if he wanted a text-book from which to illustrate the morality of the Irish people he should take the returns showing the application of the sums which had been voted for Deland. Whom had they found to be the receivers? was it the poor? Not at all ; the money of England was thrown into a vast heap, and there was • scromble of Irishmen of all ranks to receive it. Jut as they might have seen on a crush night at the opera, all ranks rushed to get a handful of the English money. (" Hear," end a laugh.) The effect cf that had been to foster the habit which the Irish people had of living on the produce of other men's labour. They had not been taught by the government to be self-dependent as were the reop'e of England, to live by their own hands and their own beads, but there was the eternal cry for more money. He never heard Irishmen open their mouths but their cry was the same. " Somebody must do something for us," but that somebody was never themselves. (A laugh ) He said this in the bearing of his auembled countrymen who were asked to provide for those who would not provide icr them selves. What was the bill before the house? It was a bill to tax the people of this united empire that the land of Ireland might be drained. He had tom , lend, and should Ike to have it edrained ; bit he did not think he should ask the government to drain it for him. A similar bill had, he admitted, been passed for England and Scotland, but the injustice in one case was no ground of defence in another. He would ask what principle ought to govern the application of capital to land or to anything else? Had they not heard it in detail from the noble lord and the right ! hon. member for Tamworth that the application of capital should be left to private enterprise and private ad- I venture, and that governments ought never to inter fere ? Arterial drainsag might be good for the land — no doubt it was, but it was also good for the proprietor of that land, and was not the business of the government. (Hear, hear.) The Chancellor of the Exchequer had told them on a former evening that this grant was to be a means of employing the people in productive labour. If that were the object, why had they not acceded to the proposal of the late Lord G. Bentiuck, who proposed to advance sixteen millions for the construction of roads? There was little practical difference between making roads or deepening water channels through the land. In his opinion it would have been better to have granted the sixteen millions three ears since than to dribble as they did day by dsy only to pro long the misery of Ireland. (Hoar.) They were now asked for 300,0001. for the drainsge of land, ostensibly to employ the poor; but he asked any man of sense would not the whole benefit accrue to the landed proprietors of the country? He opposed this bill as part of the general policy of government, because he sew nothing in that policy to relieve him from the apprehension of constant taxation hereafter. (Hear, hear) If they applied labour properly to the fruitful soil of Ireland, be believed that in two years they would rescue the people, and efface the ravages of the potato famine; if 1 they did this, the English people would not foil them in the hour of need, but would show themselves brethren in heart as well as in law ; but if, on the contrary, they did not, then !they would have the people separated into two hostile nations, and their bill would be held up to acorn as a proof of their insufficiency in legislation. Mr. J. O'CONNELL commenced with a vituperative attack upon Mr. Roebuck, but was calked to order by the Speaker, apologised, and proceeded more calmly and dispas sionately. The hon. and learned member had given them a lesson about the Poverty and the crime of Ireland. and he had included all Irishmen in his denunciation. The hon. member had accused Irishmen of immorality. Were they to defend themselves from that charge ? If so, he was ready to go into that question. When the hon. gentlemen spoke of immorality let him compare the two countries. Had they in Ireland any instances of parents poisoning their children for the sake of the burial =newts they had in England?— ' had they a regular system of abortion houses, such as existed fa this metropolis ?—was the state of society in Ireland so very "moral " that it was unsafe for a person to pass near a sentry box at night, as was the case here 3—or had they instances of (bah! n receiving education in public schools who, when asked the question, were ignorant of who the Redeemer was ?—or had they above all prof won of economy, writers in the public newspapers patronised by the government, who put forward the inhuman gad blasphemous doctrine unrebuked, that the population of Ireland, being out of proportion to the capital of the country, must be starved down to an equality with that capital ? (" Oh.") The honourable gentleman had talked of the Irish members coming to beg English money. English money ! Why, Iceland paid a much larger proportion to the general funds of the empire, as CJUI• pared with her means, than she ba d a ri g ht to do under the act of union. (Hear, bear.) Give Ire land again the free management of her own, and she would not ask you for your money. The hon. and learned member had made a violent ethnic on the landlords; bat if the 'stadia% de had been guilty of the misdeeds the hon. member charged mordant them, they had been encouraged in them by the legislsture, whose whole course had been to throw power into the hands of the landlords. If parliament d fplacing the oundation,, trheelatetionnasntsofeoluailaddlnoort have da a n y d e had been ; and in accusing land lords the hon. mem ber was accusin g them for that which the house h a d compel' , d them to do by refusing that assist ance which would have afforded the means of giving employ s ment to the Irish people. (Hear.) had tenantpo& p e Fr d e n s l a sae dlaws a betterf they o r Sir H. W. BARRON would not, notwithstand ing the provocation of the hon. and learned mem ber for Sheffield, enter into personalities. He would merely expresa his deep ragret that any English member should have evinced eo bad a spirit as that hon. and learned gentleman had exhibited in the whole course of his observations. He did not envy him his (mango when he must know that the words he had that night uttered might be the means of causing the deaths of thousands of his fellow-creatures by starvation. (Hear, hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL Moored that the bon. and learnei member for Sheffield having been so long absent from the house might account for Ws evincing a much keener appetite for an Irish debate than hon. members who had been present from the commencement of the session were likely to possess —(" Hear" and a laugh)—and it was because their hunger was SO much abated by the large supply of this kind of food with which they had been tarnished, that they not en- joyed the "lish wh bear," an Russell) all into th foresee tt Of refitcti the subji The but , the fable sad dusk gave toll was glad gaudy he c hosen gguus• on bear.) 1 sondem] lords ; tl with that mans, ti Mr. I which 1 of Engl present the is her for nrin nist•rs eontinu peahen! peated 1 that th inspect( wee Gel In low 4,0001. had be was, th which gracclu opinion lest sw Mr. (Mr. 1 would moms of hes hearir be un usual bouse the I men beca adm dese End 1101 aro el El lai I el I