The Express. — London, England, 1862-05-31 00:00:00

IMPERIAL. PARLIAMENT. BOOBS OF LORDB.—FsiDAT, MAY 30. The Loan Czettazugh took his gest as the wooheek st 1.. .'dock. THE SLAVE TRADE. Earl RUSSELL begged to say that her Majesty's govern ment had remind a communication from the Spaniels go lumwent, in which the Litter promised to use all the vigi brace in their power fur the suppression of the traffic in aims. Lord BROUGHAM had no doubt that any pledge given blt the Spanish government would be redeemed. Hs trusted tha suggestion of Marshal Serrano would be acted upon, and the slave trade made piracy. THE WHITSUNTIDE HOLIDAYS. _ Marl GRANVILLE said that if no objection were offered le should propose to adjourn their lordships house for the Whitsuntide holidays from Thursday neat to Friday in the ii:lewieg week. (Hear, hear.) LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUPPLEMENTAL BILL This bill pared through committee. CUSTOMS AND INLAND REVENUE BILL. larilaigilLLE moved the third reading of this bill. Ho said that us asking their lordship! to accept this bill, he would admit that it undoubtedly involved a very large clot of taxation ; but, on the other hand, he thought it mama be cossidered a beneficial improvement. The esti- muted expenditure of the year was exactly 70,000,0001., and the estimated receipts amounted to 70,190,0001., re duced by 10,0001. in consequence of a change made in the ether house with regard to one small estimate. The esti mated surplus was 180,0001., which wan a smaller surplus than usual. With regard to the smallness of the surplus. no doubt in the course of events it was wise and prudent to leave a large margin for possible contingencies, but their lantillips must be aware that there were some years when it became perfectly impurible—when a country was at war it was utterly impossible to do so, or even to reconcile the estimate of expenditure with the revenue of the year. (Near, hear.) The question he would ask their lordships to imasider was whether there was anything in the present cir umstances of the country that affected the condition of liamicial affairs in a somewhat intermediate poaition— . whether they were in fact in • perfect normal Mae, that it 101Ireasoosble to expect the usual rule should be applied. The Earl of CASNAMVON observed that each yeses budget was • budget, not of facts and eseurtained figures, but of imagination and ingenious simulation, calculated merely to tickle the este, but east really worth the paper ou which it was made ; sad the result was, that public confidence was destroyed, and distrust was engendered 'oy • system that prropted a spirit of speculation and gambling which went to the root of public morality. (Hear.) This proceeded, he believed, from two causes. It was partly the consequence a • moral deficiency and partly from a failure of fiaancial paiaciple. The moral deficiency was owing to an over-san pine but naut dangerous temperament which led the Chao allot of the Exchequer to overrate income and under-rate expenditure. Starting from seM-deceptiom he ended by deceiving others, and turned finance from • matter of hard, dry calculation into • question of mere guess work. Be believed this proceeded from the great error on thepart of the right hoe. gentleman of never estimating for • surplus. Be (the Earl of Garnarvon) did not say of realizing a surplus, far except in 1853 the right hon. gentleman had never reu Mud • single shilling of repine—but in never estimating for a surplus he drew his calculations always so fine as to leave no margin, or • margin of not more than 150,0001. or 180,0001., and if he so closely equalized his expenditure and his income, did it not follow that the slightest unfavourabk tarn in the course of events must disturb the whole calculi'. tioos. No landowner or private gentleman would pupal the sere principle of living up to the utmost farthieg of his estimated income —(" bear," and • laugh)—without taking into coconut the chance of a bed harvest, failure of rents, Imes by fire, or other accidents or vieinitudes that might arise. He might almost venture to any that Mr. IHndatoee had been uniforady the minister of small our pine (Hear bear.) la 1863 he estimated for • largesur plus of 870,0001., and those who remembered that year would be struck with the power of greater prudence, reserve, end self-restraint which the right hoe. gentleman then exhibited, but which was not to be found in any ire of his subsequent financial statements. In 1854, although it was • year of war, he estimated far a surplus of 430.0001. In 1860 his estimated surplus mu 460,0001. ; but that year actually showed • deficiency of more then 2,600,0001. In the year just pared, 1861, he estimated for a surplus of 400,0001., and the falling off was still greater, and this year they came down to the miserable figure of 150,0001., or, as the noble earl opposite said, paltry figure Looking at the vast extent of this em pine, the various interests of the country, and the slate of affairs in different parts of the world, he eared whether such • provision was either rte or asditable? (Hear, hear.) Mr. Gladstone was • few years age averse to the continuation of the duties on tea and saw, but in defiance rf his former policy he now retained theca. Mr. Gladstone was when in office in 1853 very bitter spinet the Income tam but in recent years be had raised it sneesesively from Id. in the pound to 10d., 9d., and lid. From these conflicting principles he could not see one single wet upon which they could rest with security. There INA nothing to be seen above the troubled waters but one land-mark, and that was the income tax. Upon that the present credit of the country was sustained, and upon that their prospects in every national emergency would depend—(hear, her),— because whereas they oad formerly many sources of taxation coming in from all quay. teem and affecting all clamor, but crushing none, sow the bed subititutoi for them one iron and despotic role which in the very nature of things must be unequal, and which was generally highly oppressive in its operation. (Hear, hear.) If this tax wu to be of permanent duration, then it ought to be moderate in amount, but now they had the -dredvantage of both—they had this tax high in amount, and the alterations which had been effected in raising the sup plies made this tax more sod more permanent in its duration. lie believed that all fiscal revolutions were in every age the precursors of social and political revolutions, while on the other heed on well-ordered finance public life and public morality depended. (Hear, hear.) In conclusion, he would imploretheir lordships mat earnestly to review the present state of our financial condition with sensitive scrupulousness, as it was their bounden duty and right to do. They ought to watch with the utmost jealousy a sys tem of finance so sew and so dangerous as that which they Imre entering upon, but to which ho believed in his heart of hearts, they were not irrevocably committed. I (Cheer.) The Duke of NEWCASTLE said the greater part of the noble earl's speech was an attack on the financial policyof Mr. Gladstone; but being a much older man In that house, be would recommend to his noble friend in future not to attempt oratorical dis play in dealing with matters of finance, but to rely ma these figures upon which all their lordships could fall back .sad form a correct judgment. But whilst his noble friend bad made • personal anal severe attack on Mr. Gladstone, it should be recollected that the right hon. gentleman was sot there to defend himself. There was no desire, how ever, our the part of himself or any of his colleagues in the government to shrink from the responsibility of the measures which the government had brought forward. He believed that this country, instead of being, as his noble friend had represented, bordering on bankruptcy, was in • sound financial condition, so far as the circumstances of the moment would allow. The noble earl rated that the tendency of Mr. Gladst ne's financial policy was to destroy public confidence and to strike at the root of public morality. With respect to the former of these charm he would ask their lordships whether, under the most adverse circumstances, there had teen any unusual !actuation is the funds ; even during the late threateniog aspect of affairs with the United States, whether the funds had not maintained remarkable steadiness. (Hear, hear.) As to the effect of these measures upon public morality, he confessed he did not understand the argument. (Hear.) He could not see how these fiscal arrangements could have the effect of destroying public morality, nod be would therefore dwell no longer upon the subject. It was rid by hie noble friend that Mr. Gladstone durst not do what he believed to be right, hut he could assure their lordships that if there was one member of the government who was firm of purpose —or, if the noble earl liked the term, obstinate— it was Mr. Gladstone in maintaining his opinion spinet those to whom he might be opposed. The noble earl corn. planed that there was no surplus, and that really was the gist of the whole case, when stripped of rhetorical orna neetandpsnonalsllusinas. The noble earl had admitted that which had been denied in another pl ace, that the last two or three years were exceptional years. W hen greatdistreas ern ted to the country, with a war in New Zealand, with existing eveuts in China, and when large armaments were maintained Ty oar opposite neighbour—(hear, bear)—and when large armaments bad to be prepared and maintained here, surely it could not be raid that the present was not an exceptional time. His noble friend went on to attack the Chancellor of the Exchequer for stating that he could not do ns he liked, because he would be run in upon by a majority of the House of Commons. It is a notorious fact tha t . there is always a cry for the reduction of taxation. Even this year, but three or four days before the financial statement was made, a motion was carried in the House of Commons, and had beet supported by right bon. and bon. gentlemen who sat on the opposition benches, for the reduction of a large amount of taxation. How, then, was the government to obtain a surplus! Only by the imposition of fresh taxation. Lord OVEMSTONE said he meat express his conviction that the financial conduct of the government with respect SO the affairs of the country during the last two years had ant been either satiafactory or safe, and that the financial position in which it was placed in consequence was far from being what it ought to be. The noble duke had charged the noble earl opposite, on very insufficient grounds, with having introduced Creconsiderations into the question, and a l so w ith v i i c ag a Lade a personal attack upon a distinguished member of the other house. Without admitting the injustice of the cementite, he would say that there was no public nun in this country who was len obnoxious to public censure than Mr. Gladstone. (Hear, hear.) They were told there was a surplus, but what kind of surplus was it! He wished to have a surplus that would make those who understood public finance feel a strong confidence of a future excess of revenue over expenditure. (Hear, beer.) To propene additional taxation would apparently have been a pitiful course to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, but stall he (Lord Overdone) wished to ask whether the wealth of the country was exhausted—whether the elasticity of the national resources was worn out—whether the public spirit of the government bad ebbed away, and whether the public lad refused cheerfully to make whatever sacrifices might be neetelery for the misty and honour of the country. Why THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, MAY 31, 1862. them was the Chancellor of the Exchequer compelled to ito Sir W. Annetnag, and be was glad to present them with such a budget' Looking at the revs. any dal be wee a member of the government one of 70,000,000 k raised so sully last year from each • ' which la the firat instance uncured the benefit of Sir W. variety of sourced, and from so many iudividuals,.,; lomistrvegit services, and thereby introduced an imalcu - could they say that so effort should have been lable improvement to our former artillery. He found they made to increase the national resources? Let them look at nennufacturin 100 heavy guns a-yeer, and the the state of affairs throughout the world. Was there was made to •tbs number to 180 or 200. nothing there to stimulate them to Manned exertion' Was Wet was not sufficient Very likely it was no:. there no cause for anxiety in the present depressed coodi- Bat he now trod in the estimate • sum of 521,0001. time of our manufactures, and ought they Dot to lay to their far Anwar( guns, and for which sum 1,489 guns hearts that great lesson, ii vu oacean, pars helium? They were to be produced in the course of the year. heard with satisfaction that their arsenal at Woolwich was Of these guns 681 were to be 100-pounders and 341 wore to well stored with every description of ammunitioo, bat there be 40-pounders. That was the expenditure this yea!, and be was soother arsenal much nearer that hors which it was ford that it was contemplated to expend • similar sum in of still greater importance to keep well stored with the the course of the present year. This might be aeotweary, resources of its own peculiar kind—he meant the Treasury. but to hie mind it looked like a very large and unnecessary (Hear, hear.) He now repeated with confidence all that he expenditure, which he thought might be spread over ' glid uttered on the subject two years ago. As regarded the • considerable number of man, because he did commercial treaty with France, he adhered to the objet- not apprehend that the power airmen' were so bone which he stated when it was under discussion two great as to require so large en immediate out man ago. He objected that it would compel this country lay, more espec ial ly as it was stated in this very to repeal taxes which it could ill afford to part with, and to speech of the Secretary for War that great doubt existed re-hopoes an equivalent amount of taxation in other direc- whether there might not be another species of arm, both time. sad so violate the settled policy of free trade. He heavy and light, namely, the Whitworth, which might appealed to facts and to all that had passed in debate that be more advantageous than the Armstrong, and the coo evening for the verification of those views, "ranee of that must be either that they must be left Earl GREY protested against the practice of her Ma- with an inferior arm or go over the whole expense of re jesty's government proposing • large expenditure and en- arming the army anew. (Hear, hear.) He did not wish to clamouring to reconcile the country in time of peace, not be misunderstood. What be maid was this, where you were fairly to meet its expenditure, by pretending that they were in doubt as to having the best possible invention plead in what they called exceptional circumstances, and you should not overload your stores with arms by dwelling un the great benefit derived from the repeal which might be found to be of an inferior description. of taxation. H po e could conceive no more dangerous argument He did not presume to my in what direction the govern- The repeal of taxes was politic and advantageous, but he moot could effect reductions. He should be sorry even to entirely denied that that justified the government take on himself to call on their lordships to affirm cargo in throwing upon the future the burden of the expenditure riselly that reduction was capable of being effected consist incurred for the present time. Rad we not been spending ently with the circumstances of the times. His firm belief on a large scale, and meeting that large expenditure, as the was that it was, but he had not the knowledge which should noble lord on the cross-bench had shown, by every spend- induce him to ask their lordships to come to such • catego thrift device? We had been anticipating, by every means rind result. But the government had before them the in our power, all our resources. We had called in simple choice between two alternatives. Additional taxa the malt credit; we had diminished the balance boo was impossible ; removal of taxation was almost equally in the bank ; we bad postpooed payment of ob- impossible : it was impossible to continue in the put ligation' ; we had incurred debts. Against that alarming condition of the finances. The only alternative to system he (Earl Grey) joined his noble friend on the cross- which they must look—and to which he trusted they would benches in protecting. It was dangerous to the future look—was an unsparing, •judicious, and at the same time a welfare and credit of the country, and he could not help perfectly safe, reduction of public exp en diture. (Cheers.) feeling that the present state of things was such as to in - Fad RUSSELL -I do not wish to say anything rein spin the grentost Adorn,. Ili. noldo ( , idol the President of Li, e to the priv il ege. of the two hooves of parliamen t . the Gourd had said that their lordships mat rarely see I understand the noble earl to say that the Rouse of that there was no serious cause for alarm ; that the re- Oommoss has the right—it is their privilege—to include sources of the country were intact. But he (Earl Grey) all "applies for the year in one bill, sad for their lordships must repeat that if we continued to increase our expenditure to reject that bill. There can be no doubt of without the mews of meeting it, we should end by reducing these two positions. The noble earl complained the country to extreme dimness. (Hear.) that there were 22,000,0001. included in one bill The Duke of ARGYLL contended that every rends- The noble earl said his observations should be prospective, don of taxes made by Mr. Gladstone had fulfilled every but be had not kept his pledge. But at the same time, promise made for it • and with regard to the French what is the real and important question to be oonsideted ? treaty, it had not only iseen useful in placing our relations The question is not what MU done by the late government with France on • more satisfactory footing, but bad given a in 1858, or the prawn government in 1859 ; but the real stimulus to trade in our manufacturing districts, and in question is, what are our financial prospects at present' I some instances had been the only substitute for that em- own I was surprised at the gloomy prospects, and the very ployment which had lessened the suffering occasioned to our lively apprehensions which noble lords seem to entertain as manufacturing people by the American war. He denied the to the state of our finances. The noble earl who spoke statement that the present government had dealt extrava- first is not only afflicted with alarm, but be spoke also of gently with the resources, or that there was the moral delinquency of the primer system. any truth in the sesertiou that the stores of The Earl of CAW.. ARVON—I certainly did not use the the country had been reduced, and challenged Earl words " moved dawaney." Grey to point tory inshore is which there was a reduction of Karl RUSSELL—WeII, the noble earl referred to the stores or a waste of moron Darr( ths three years the morality of the system, and those apprehensions he ex. present government bad be in ones Mr. Gladstone had pressed, though be did not use the phrase " morel dello reduced customs and excise duties to the extant of more gooney," and he was surprised that such a Chancellor of than 4,000,0001. ; and with what resat' Why, the mores the Exchequer should be allowed to pursue his present referred to by the noble earl (Earl Grey) were larger and policy. My noble friend who spoke from the cross-benches more full than they were two years before Mr. Gladstone's (Earl Grey) was exceedingly 'lassoed, but what are the operations, and they bad with decreased taxation an symptoms of our financial ernieuramment and political de increased revenue and increased prosperity. The re. cm ? The signs me, having an increased expense and a de duction amounted to 4,300,0001. since 185 9, and the total thoing revere, constantly making new debt., sad thus produce of the revenue from customs an d excise showed bringing on • financial crisis. Now, what is the position in an area of 2.000,0004 over what they stood at before that which we stand at present ' The Chancellor of the Ex redaction took place, deducting the 2,000,0001. of additional chequer has proposed estimates for the present year which taxes laid on by Mr. Gladetorm He would not say there are below those of the former year to the eater of might not be at some future time new theories and prin. 1,800,0001., and three and • half millions below those of ciples of finance started, but it would be some satisfaction 1860. Therefore you have not an Increasing expenditure, as to know that there were no more protective duties, no more has been constant ly repeated, bat you have in fact • de duties affecting injuriously the propane of manufacture, no creasing expenditure. (Hear, bear.) Then with regard to more of those old and now exploded principles which ind the state of the revenue, you have • revenue which is fully been upheld so long and so consistently by the party equal to the demands which are made upon it. The Chan opposite. cello( d the Exchequer has of late years remitted certain The Earl of DERBY said the noble duke (Newcastle) in taxes, sad you have heard something of the effect of this the course of his observations charged his noble triad (Lord remission, but he has at the IMMO time imposed other taxes, Carnanon) with departing from the subject, aid casting ion. and the balsam between those imposed and) those remitted putatioce upon persons who were absent, and the noble duke is 1,080,0001. • year in favour of the former. who bad just sat down bad commented, not in the beat taste, Therefore there is another security for an increasing revenue. on the expressions used by Mr. Disraeli in another But are our remoras failing' So far from that, the average place, in which he spoke of bloated armaments. increase of late years has been no less that 900.0001. • year, He asked whether, after this great increase of expenditure and therefore no one can doubt that if you do not reduce both on the army and the navy for the purpose of providing the expenditure much below the present rate, with for the security and independence, and perhaps the exist- the income of nearly two millions of revenue you would 1 mice of the country—whether that wu the minister who soon be pat in • state more than sufficient to meet your was likely to turn round upon his previous opinions, upon extraordinary expeoditure. Therefore, so far from the which be claimed for himself and his colleagues the highest present state of the finances praying those gloomy appre credit for having adopted a wise and judicious line of policy , pensions which are entertained — the same anxiety might be whether that was the minister who, in the presence of those felt on account of our large expenditure sod large revenue colleagues, would bring forward a proposition or give ex- --still there is nothing in that state of our finances to presaion to sentiments calculated to discourage such naval cause the least gloom or apprehension. The noble earl and military armaments as were essential to the protection who spoke last bas touched upon a topic which he thought and defame of the country' (Hear.) In the two spathes it necowary to introduce, and upon which I confess, after of his right hon.frand which had been so unfairly referred to hearing his explanation, my doubts are much greeter than by the noble duke, nothing was stronger than the declare- before, I understood as did also some of his noble Moeda, tioo of his right hoc. friend, that as far as provision for the that there was • question of bloated armaments. defence and safety of the country was concerned there war The Sari of DEBBY —I did not introduce that subject. no expense be was desirous of saving, or which the country It was Introduced by the noble duke at the other side. would not gladly go to. What be said was, that it was to Earl RUSSELL—It was, but the noble earl has given an be regretted that the circumstanose of Europe generally explanation of it. I understand that these bloated arma had led nations to adopt • system of bloated armaments, meats were to be traced to the foreign policy . of her Ma. which were unnaturally swollen beyond their due propor- jesty's government, and that while that foreign policy was Lion, and created excitement amongst their neighbours, and retained those armaments would never be got rid of. Well, financial distress and difficulty at home. It was to that his the noble earl changes the argument upon the "object, and right boo. friend referred in • tone of regret and complaint he says that the phrase is applicable generally to the ulna. that must be participated in by all those who loved peace ments of other countries. ("Oh, oh, " from the Earl of and the prosperity of their canny. His right hon. friend Derby.) That nose be, but is it denied that it has been referred to the condition in which they stood. What was stated that the foreign policy of this country was the cause that condition' That condition was that at the present of these bloated armaments' Upon this point something moment they were incurring habitually a deficit of very more definite is required than the statement made in another large amount—they were, to use an expression used in the place by the Chancellor of the Exchequer of the noble Crimean war, drifting grsdually, not into • war, but into • earl's government. The noble earl says it is possible that state of chronic deficit There could not be • more alarm- the security of the country requires the present amount of lag state of things than when in time of entire peace a armament, yet he says be is quite sure there can be some minister of the crown proposed a system of finance, the reduction result of which was to draw upon the resources of the The Earl of DERBY—I beg that the noble earl may not country and to diminish its financial reserves. (Hear, hear.) misquote me. I mid I bad not the information which In the lest two yeas alone, the deficit bad been 5,000,0001. would enable me to form • judgment upon the subject, but Not only were they incurring • deficit every year, but they that my strong impression was there was room for re were scraping together all resource., and bringing into one treachment. I also said I would be sorry to ask your year what should be reserved to meet the exi- lordships to affirm categorically that there was—but that I geodes of future years. But in spite of this was strongly of opinion that retreuchment could be effected, enormous deficit--in spite of—he would not call although I was not able to point out where. it spendthrift—but illegitimate proceeding of adding Earl RUSSELL—If the noble earl has not the infor to the present temporary income, the house must not for. =din to enable him to say whether or not the armaments get that in addition to all this the country was su ff ering are too great, how can he form the imprasion that they under the pressure of 14,000,000/. of war taxes, and under are? Why , may they not be exactly what are absolutely taxes specially put on to mast the exigencies of war alone. necessary for the defeooe of the country' (Hear, hear.) It With these 14,000.0004 of taxes and a deficit in the year appears to me that the noble earl, in choosing to commit of 9,500k0001., be asked their lordships if that was not estate himself to • definite affirmation that reduction can be of things which called for the serious comaid,eration of par- effected and economy introduced, wishes to hold • shadowy 'lament. (Hear, bear.) Now, with regard to this bill it hope to those who are convinced that there can be great imaord duties amounting to nearly 22,000,0004 It in- r ed uction that he would be the man to carry it out. I eluded the renewal of the 9d. income tax and the war must now very briefly advert to the assertion which I increase on tea and sugar. Now, 22,000.0001. was about • understood to be made, that it is to the foreign third of the whole of the national expenditure, and policy of her Majesty's government the large estimates for of this 22,000,0001., no less than 14,000,0001, which herr the army and navy are to be traced. As the person in the tofore, and according to all rood principles of finance, premien metroe responsible for that Policy. I own I ehon ) d had been renewed to most the exigencies of war, teal it a very great charge, and • very heavy accusation, if (Hear, hear.) The noble lord the President of I could think that anything which as the organ of the go the Council congratulated the government on the diens- moment. I have done has made it necessary that the Lion they exercised in not having asked for any people of this country should bear burdens from additional taxes. That was an act of supreme discretion which they might otherwise he relieved. But, he allowed, because if they had asked to put on additional my lords, I am convinced that the policy which taxes they might be perfectly certain the House of C O M- the present government has punned has been •a policy moos would not have granted it. (Laughter.) He, there- which so far from tending to increase armaments, has fore, made the noble lord • present of all the credit due to tended to keep them within moderate oounds. That policy them for the exercise of that discretion. (Laughter.) It has been one of non-intervention in the affairs of other was a matter of impassibility, ore matter of great difficulty countries. (Hear, hear.) Is that au aggressive policy' and most objectionable, to ioerease the weight of the few Can any one say it is not • policy of peace towards all other taxes that still remained, more especially as some countr ies? (Hear, bear.) If we had interfered either on of these were taxes which ought gradually and behalf of the sovereigns or the nations which opposed those speedily to be reduced, if not abolished ; if there sovereigns, should we not have been more likely to involve was no prospect of adding to the means of taxation by adding ourselves in war, or at all events in expensive preparations to the burden of the taxes, be said frankly that much as he for war' That which we have kept steadily in view is that condemned the abolition of some of those taxes it would be we should always encourage the independence of other iinpossible to ce-impose them. That which was a legitimate countries. It is for the advantage of Europe and of the source of permanent revenue had been cut off by the act world that each independent nation should preserve its own of the present government If they could neither add to privileges and maintain its own . position ; but that is not a the existing taxes nor revive those which had been Principle that tends to war—its • principle that tends to improvidently and unwisely cut off, what remained Pere. (Hear.) Upon the whole I think that the noble earl but that you must either submit to • permanent opposite who spoke early in this debate (the Earl of Cu. state of chronic deficit, which must lead to narvon), and the noble earl who spoke last, have totally bankruptcy, or deliberately, firmly, and resolutely failed to show that there is any danger in the present state apply your minds to the only other mode by which the of our finances. (Hear, bear.) I believe that state is • revenue and expenditure could be equalised, namely, by sound one, and that even it you have not • surplus, it is that of a wise, temperate, judicious, and economical re. not wise to impale taxation without necessity. I also be. trenchmeot. (Hear, hear.) He need not repeat that he liars, with regard to the defences we have made, that they would not be a party to anything which would weaken the were no more than were required for the security of the necessary defence of the country. He was not in • yogi- country. At the same time I do not mesa to say tiou, not having the official information, to point out to the that they may not be from time to time dimi government the objects on which retrenchment might be Dished ; and I have only further to assure your effected. But be must confess he had • very strong lordships that whenever the opportunity roars to reduce impression that, without injuring in the alight- rutin, and to effect renenchinent, it will be eagerly em eat degree the military or naval force of the country, braced by her Majesty's government. (Cheers.) we were at the present moment spending more largely The bill was then read • third time sad paged. and to • greater extent than was required by the existing Their lordships adjourned at halt pit 10 o'clock. circumstances of the world at large, or by our own state of relative preparation. (Hear, hear.) He might be perfectly wrong, and it might be that the government had no alter native but to go on with the enormous scale of expendi ture which they were carrying on at that roomeot. He ad mitted that for the last few years it was absolutely neon nary to have large estimates. He admitted it was a wise measure which armed our army and militia and volunteers with the best weapons at our dieposal, and be did not at all complain of the large amount expended in the last few years in small arms and heavy artillery. But there must come a time when that expenditure might be reduced, and beneficially reduced. He held in his head • speech of the Secretary for War, in which he found it stated that, with regard to the number of small arms manufaetaired, the number was 1.068,000; the number issued to the army, militia, and volun teers was 500,0(!0; to the India government. 188,000; making the total laird 686.0001. There were in store at borne sod abroad 359.000. Now, the annual home at the time of strains our forces ass something like 100,000 a year. We had, therefore, in store three years sod a-halt's consumption. Suppose we were contriving to do that which was now sooomplished, namely, to reerm the whole force. (Hear, bear.) No one was more ready to admit than he the obligations which the euestry was ander HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FILIDAT, MAY SO. Tha fin am took the chair at 4 o'clock. every department of the state, is at the same time mindful of its obligation to provide for the security of the country at home and the protection of its interests abroad. That this house observes with satisfaction the decrease which has already been effected iu the national expenditure, and trusts that such further diminution may be made therein as the 1 future state of things may warrant." THE LAW OF SURNAMES. Mr. ROEBUCK gave notice that, on going into committee of supply, he should ask the Home Secretary whether be was aware that a gentleman of the name of Jones had assumed the name of Herbert without the royal license ; whether in coneequence the Lord Chamberlain had refused to present him at court ; whether he wu aware that the authorities at the Hone-Guards had refused him a commis eion the militia in the name of Herbert ; whether he was aware that the Lord Chancellor had refused to place him on the commission of the peace in the name of Herbert ; whether the Home Secretary had himself declined to re commend the Lord Chancellor to place this gentleman on the commission of the peace, because he had changed his name without the royal license, and whether the right bon. gentleman was aware that such conduct on the part of the authorities of the Hone Guards and of himself was contrary to law. (Laughter.) CHINESE IN NEW SOUTH WALES. Mr. MARSH asked the Under Secretary of State fer the Colonies whether an act had been paned by the Miniature of New South Wales, imposing a fine of 101. on every Chinese landed in the colony, and an annual poU tax of 41. on every Chinese resident there. and enacting other penalties against them ; whether her Majesty had been advised to withhold her consent from such set ; and whether he was aware that, previous to the passing of this act, a select com mittee of the legislative council of New South Wales had, after examining witnesses, made a report wholly and en tirely acquitting the Chinese residing in the colony of the charges and imputations which had been made against them. Mr. C. FORTEffiCUE said such an act as the hon. mem ber described was passed by the legislature of New South Wale* a short time ago. It was assented to by the govern ment, and had been left to he operation. With respect to the latter part of the question they had had no report lathe Colonial-office of such prooseeint He might add that hie noble friend at the head of the lonial-office was folly sen sible of the objectionable ehersorer of this losialaticre wader ordinary circumstances, but be was aware that an almost similar act had been in operation for some years past in the neighbouring colony of Victoria, that law having been enacted under the old constitution. He also knew that there was a strong and violent feeling in the colony of New South Wales against any further increase in that colony of Chinese males, there being no women in the country of that nation, and the Chinese males amounting to 21,000, mahout one-fourth of the whole population of the co lony. Under these circumstances his noble friend did not think that her Majesty's government ought to enter into a contest with the colonist on this question, and be did not dyne the crown to disallow the act, bathe advised the governor of New South Wales to modify the set in some measure, and ape chilly to relax its stringency in the ease of Chinese emigrants who might come accompanied by their wives and families. men The Witness—Yes, it does. With regard to chloroform, in nineteen cases out of twenty the idea of poimonieg by chloroform would never occur to a medical man. If chloro form bad been administered to the ehildrea in the shape of vapour all laces of it would have been gone before the medic l men saw the bodies. Chloroform taken ma a liquid is not so poisonous as in vapour. Mr. Ellison—Are you of opinion that everything has been done which science can suggest for the furtheresse el the ends of justice The Witness—From what I have heardito-day I think so. see nothing out of the ordinary course of procedure. I would my that a point which might be dwelt upon is the necessity, in cases where poisoning by chloroform ss res pected, of putting all the articles immediately into a mend with a stopper ; but if these gentlemen had done so ik this ease, 1 have no doubt wo should still be just in the same position we are at this moment. In reply to further questions, Professor Taylor said in rues of death by chloroform he should no r t always expect to tleta rnvkad post.gnort•m app..rannow. . the namerons cases examined by Dr. Snow, one-eighth of the mess per minted quite natural appearances, as of healthy beast, and in seven-eighths of the cases there was ecogintion of the lungs more or less. Children would be more Otractible of poisoning by chloroform vapour than older meows. The cases which Dr. Snow examined were cases white had died during the application of chloroform formerly in the hos pitals in order to effect cures ; sod in those mess there would be longer time allowed for congestion than when it was administered with the intention of causing death. Bat few came of the latter kind were known to the medical profession. Mr. ,Holker intimated that this was the case for the mown. Mr. Pope laid that now, feeling no decision oould be come to upon the matter by the bench, the prisoners, acting under his advice, would reserve anything they might have to say until another occasion. Mr. Ellison sated the prisoners whether they would like to have the evidence which had been taken mad over is a collected shape. The male prisoner, in reply, maid—lt is a matter of little importance ; I have no desire for it. The female primmer also said, I say the same. Mr. Ellison then read over a form to the male prisoner, in which he was charged, first. with the murder of Mr.' Mellor, and afterwards with the murder of each of his children. After the usual caution, in reply to the ques tion—Have you anything to say? he replied, " 1.4." The same charge was then read over to the female prisoner, and she also replied in the negative to the question from the bench. Mr. Ellison then said—You will now both of you stand committed to take your trial at the next assizes at Liver pool for the wilful murder of Evan Mellor. The deposi tions in the other charges will be sent up, and any course which the authorities may think requisit e will be taken hereafter. Mr. Pope then reminded the bench of the permission granted the prisoners to have interviews with each other for the purpose of preparing themselves far their de fence. The prisoners had been allowed simply to speak to one soother, there being intervening between them two doors, the panels of which appeared to be reimposed of perforated erne. That was not such an interview as was contemplated, and he hoped the bench would give such further directions as would enable them to prepare for their defence at Liverpool. Mr. Ellison said the prisoners would be removed to Kirk dale to-night. Mr. Watson Beaver, surgeon, of Manchester, was present to give evidence, if necessity, on the part of the prosecu tion, but, in consequence of the comprehensive medical tes timony of Dr. Taylor and others, it was not thought requi site to call him into the witness-box. THE IRISH CONVICT PRISONS DIRECTION.—WO understand that the new arrangements in the directors of Irish Convict Primes-office, consequent on the retirement of Captain Crofton, are as follows :—Captain Whitty is to be sole director or inspector-general, with two maistants. Captain Barlow, Local Inspector of Spike Island Prison, who has been assisting aa temporary director at head quarters sinoe the transfer of the third director, Mr. Lentaigne, to the office of Inspector-General of Primus, is Darned as one of the assistants", and Mr. Nettetville, Governor of Mountjoy Prison, as the other. Mr. the deputy-governor ' is to be pvmmor. and the Xll , deputy-governor is to be abolish's& For Tanwer be known to the authorities these changes will not be offieially made known until Captain Crofton leaves, which, wean informed, will be the Stet week in Jana—Civil Service °algae. A CRIXE PREVENTED. —A correspondent writes from Norfolk, Virginia, immediately after the surrender of the place, " We are just in time to prevent another crime of slavery. The Norfolk Day-Book of Saturday. now is my hands, has the following advertisement in its columns : • Sale of free blacks for city tazes.—City Collector's-alga, Norfolk, May 6, 1862.—Under the provisions of as cedi 111113Ce directing the sale of all free blacks who fail to pay their city taxes, I shall, before the door of the City Hall, on Monday, May 12, at 12 m., sell the following .named persons for the taw swilled by said ordinance.' Here follow the names of 112 males, and 204 females. I was at the place at the gives time, but found no opportunity to bey a slave, I desired so atrocious a crime. God be pra m ; silvery is doomed! None welcome so loudly, none so gladly, our soldiers es the sieves of these two cities. Whether others be Unlearnte or not, they surety are." OIT!TAI. PAL•OI. Olts 81FILLINO DiY.— -, - ---- - ..----• - --- --- - ASCHIET Fm, LAMS DAT.—THLDAT MAT 30.-11/- minions on payment, 1,509; ditto, by seam Wm* 794 ; Ws), 2,303. L vertiaement.l-11oLLowdVa Pima —Truth ful perienos—The nutted testimony of thousands. WAWA over more than • quarter of a century, most etraigly recommanda these Pills as the best purifiers the mildest aperleata. shit the nisrdtr iz surest restoratives. They never prove delusive , or ehs temporary relief, but attack all silmenta of the staanadt, heart, head, and bowels, In the only safe and leilleglthe OW dap osting the' blood and newels( these lopeedielisee see the foundation and Nippon at almost senlY ahemm nen sediensal smcscy Is apesdirtal - in venevading _andsailed sonata tatter. Their seam madonna all that la andesale In a basso halts asdialse. They aspd wavy nazism and OA* nwided, end Una the arsagla is wand sad as easedba stlarishad. THE MURDERS AT Mi.NORIS2'I7I. MA RKETb. SUGAR —ne averse, pries of brown or Muvoisd o The prisoners Taylor and his wife were again sugar, th e , p ro duce or the ffriai a b _ posvesioun u, Auaric,,, brought before the magistrates of Manchester yesterday, for the week ending May 27, is TM. lid. per cat, exclnin for examination, on the charge of murdering Evan Mara the d°634 and the three children of the male prisoner. t ra ßscseor. Mix so.—V my little business doing in e ith er as Mr. Holler w counsel for th e prosecution, and Mr. I ,o r refised ; arcs fully 6d. lower. Rum berate.. nthedi Pope for the prisoners. Sergeant Bateman proved that he took the jars containing the stomachs end intestines of the children to Prolamin Taylor, of Loudon. Professor Taylor on examination by Mr. Honker, Ntid—l I come to the conc lusion that there were no appearances of death from Wand causes. In a ease of natural death, I should expect to find some causes. I have examined in thirty years, about 400 ewes, and have always foiled in cases of natural death some natural causes for death. I am unable to decide between chloroform or entreaties as being the cause of death, but I should my death has been rained by the vapour of chloroform, or some forced stop page of respiratioo. I have no reason to suppose these deaths were sudden, except from that of my own erahisation and from the medical evidence I thee heard to-day. In cases of rapid suffocation I don't always expect to find congestion of the brain ,• there is no time for it. I analysed exceedingly ca refu lly for chloroform. Chloroform is a vegetable vapour, and if taken in the form ; of vapour, it adheres to the blo od, but can by the process we use be separated from the blood at the temperature at which chloroform passes into vapour ; and a slight particle, such as cannot be detected by the sight, can by that method be detected. It is often in camel suffocation difficult to say, from the small appearances, whether death has been curd by an obstruction of respiration, or by a poisonowe vapour. The appearances of the children in this ems me exactly like those which came before the profanes thirty years ago, when dead bodies were taken to diesecting-reems, and much alarm was created, but that led to =by tie-' portant discoveries. I cannot draw any distinctiou between the effect of chloroform and sufforation. In the eras lof alai/rain, it would be possible to detect it if the snap& of the viscera were made within 24 hours ; but, in the ere of a boy who died in the hospital from chorofonn, we scald find no trace 48 hours afterwards. Crossexamined—l come to the conclusion that the chil dies died simultaneously, from the medical evidence which I have heard to-day ; and I may date that the yin:ease presented the same appearances after death as if death had taken place about the same time. Mr. Pope-1 understand you are unable to give any die. Coot opiate* as to any cause of death? The Witoese-1 do not say "se to any rause," but I might form an opinion. There are some cues which are very obscure. Mr. Pope—ln this particular case do you feel at liberty to express any distinct opinion a to what was the cease of death The Witless —I cannot separate the possilde meet of chloroform administered as vapour from the siesta of suf focation. I think death has been caused by OOP or the other. I cannot account for the death in any other way. The appearances are only consistent, in my opinien i . with poisoning by chloreforrn, or suffecatiou. Of eases I need hardly say there are other yappers besides &keen= that would destroy life ; but these vapours could be detested by their odour much longer than chloroform. Death by in haling charcoal would be a long proems, bat if it pawn's head were dipped in carbonic acid, death would be tartan taneous. I wish to explain that poisose which eperste only on the lungs leave scarcely any marked appearance co the body ; in that respect they differ from poems given down the throat. In the case of a child of 12 being suffocated, one would expect to find marks of montane* ; bet if the child were asleep, or in bed, when suffocated, I should not expect to find such marks. Mr. Honker—lna case where the mouth is closed, and the chest compremed, would you expect to find congestion? The Witnese—No. That is the way in which the act of bushing was carried 00. If the mouth is covered and the chest compressed at the same time it very soon destroys life, and there is no trace of congestion. Mr. Bolker—l believe you have attended to the et deuce. In your opinion were the post-mortem and other examina tions conducted properly, and as they generally are The Witneee--Yes. Mr. Bother—And that remark applies to all the gentle. TALLOW.—FI!DAY EVINDIO.—The market was steads to :—Spot and June. 46e.t0 465. 3d. ; July, 44k. G I . 4 December, 413 e. GcL ; Australian sheep, 455. to 9d. ; ditto beef, 445. 6d. to 9d. ; North Amencan, 4Gs ; South ditto, 471. ; town tallow, 44c, net cash ; cococc.t oil firm ; Cochin ditto, 53e. to 53e. lid. ; Ceyloa ditto, s:!c. ; Sydney ditto, 49e. 9d. to 50s. 6d. ; palm oil steady; 425. 10d. ; palm nut 00, 405., very scarce ; horse grease, 36e. ; magi fat, 24. 4d. At the public sales of 591; auks of tallow offered, 400 were sold. Delivery to last emit% 574 mats ; arrivala, 2,576 cooks. OOTI'ON. —LIVIZPOOL, MAT 30.—1 n the early part of the week the market wee very dell and quiet, prime of daseriptions being 'omelette, lower and irregular, but tlit latest amounts from America being of a nature to encounqe the belief that the contest now going on may be it, definitely prolonged, buyers have again purchased truth, and prices of American close Id. per lb higher than Friliy last. Brazil readily commands the extreme rates of lie week, sod Fgyptian is id. and 1,4. per lb dearer. sum continues in active demand, and prier have advanced full, per lb. Speculators have taken 10,920 bales, viz.. 2.4 e American, 100 Idaranham, 690 Fyptian, and 7,650 rat ; and exporters 3,890 hales, via., 670 American, 290 Ego pike; and 3,000 Burst. The market "opens this morning with i V s. ip o rgi wk a ith ‘ very .full pities; probable for e or exespoletatlfitee COTTON GOODEL—lfsemiltarri, MAY 30.—There his bees rather more business today in mess, at higher pri m , sales having taken plate at id. to id. per lb. advance m Tuesday's rates. Spinner' is some cases have asked • rube more coraiderable adverse than this, but it has checked besioess. There would evidently have been a very consi derable badness hid spinners been more moderate, bat ill the isles have bees of fair extent. There have been pro. chases for all machete, but the chief bushier has been le India. In cloth also we have an improvement since Tue. day, sad at • efight advance of prices upon all description, The chief business does in cloths like that in yam. ban ken for lodia, sad is due to the improved accounts recently to lead from that quarter. The Pommes of the Liverpool mottos market has no doubt bad the effect of induciog sellers to adhere more firmly to their quotations, and of bringing orders nos the market which might have otheraoe bees held heck. Ctompared with what we have bad doing for sorns ea Lr di eeks re ast, the busiams effected today has been rather '. CORN.—Bnamoi, MAT 29.—The supply of English wheat at this day's motet le Innen, and the trade slow a last week's prices. The Aar descriptions of foreign are la pee quarter lower, whilst secondary sorts maintain their value, with-talker a better iambi. Grim' barley as. three is the saw lifeles s state sleet re sod to or males 6d. per qr. lees mosey must be Otte offered fkL per qr. _cheaper without tempting buyers. Anita!, Wbeet, Irish 500 q r s. ; OCISAIIIIIO, 100 qr s.; foreip, 2, I 290 qra. Oats, Irish, 1,025 qrs. Barley, foreign, 4,744 gm. Indian corn, amerrise, 35 qra Flour, harp. 350 burek . . . _ Cammerorm, MAY 3D.—There was a fair surly of wheat at market to-day for the lessee, sad a good Oduud at ls. decline es white, while beat reds could Dot be bougla as easietterms than Let week. Weather showery. Boas very soiree, and fay am dear. Inidour, WAY 30.—A fair Ripply . of wheat u motet; the brads tam at bat week's rates; m some =tames Ia mote was gives. kid, Ma to 565. ; white. b7s. to Uit. Oats, beaky, and beans wars each a shade lower ti. Let weak. —-•• • • • LITWOOL. NAT 30. We have had a fair attendance of both millers aid dealers at shim day's market, cod wheel bas colnameded ea eslive4 T iry: consommes et about the rake of this day ad t for all deuriptioes wept amber Allwankie, which • 2d. per camel al • mace oa the low rates then sanest. moat be gaud Od. per banal and amok dearer, with a fair deemed. lodaa sera is sp . from 9d. to is. per quarter on the week, bat de adveace is by so mar freely complied with. Oats W oatmeal steady. Beans and peas each maistain the rata cl lest market day. Barley the turn dearer. The warts claws with finesses. ••• • • WAMPUM), MAT 90.—Wheat was firmer, with 11 shack consumptive dinned for an fresh Tornio s lest watt prioss • but o th er sorts were unaleable. In herby, csis bras, 'sad shelling, not no& &inland no asap* pries Average d the week eadk; Nay 26. 'Wheat, OK ma I 55e. Ild. ; Barley, 180 st 38s. ; Bens, 50 1110.11. 00e:11.3.-Lo6Don, MAT 30.-Bars Primrose, lb. ; 1 . 1 . Monk Wed Hartley, lbs. 3d. ; Grey% Wen , 14.. 9d. ; Hastinp Bartley, 15s. 3d. ; rira. ; Math Palos Gas, 13s. ; South Peaneth. 12s , Tsallabll Moor, 13e. ; Teseeld Moor Butes, 136. ; Will. Primrose, lls. 9d.; Wybon, 15e. • Walls End Godard', 14s. 3d. ; Walls End Barton, 14s. ; Eden Ma* 14s. 91; Walls End Braddylb Batton, lbs. 3d. ; Wells Ind I well, 16e. 3d. ; Walls End Hinton. 16s. 3d. ; Walk FA /Copier Orange, 15s. ; Walls End Booth Hatton, 116.31; Walls End Stewart'', 16n ; Walls End 16.6 i; Walls End Camp, 15s. 3d. ; Walls End Oudot:, 15s. 6d; Walls End Hartlepool, 165.: Walls End Honk 14.. 9d.; Walls End Kolbe, 15e. 6d. ; Walls lied Bliiselib lb e. ; Walls End Smith Hartlepool, 15s. ; Wells Bed Sold Welke, 15s. 3d. ; Walls End Thorpe, 14s. ; Wall. Eat Umtata Hsrtle 16s. ; Walls End Whitircertb, 14s. 614 Oarwery and iryis Anthracite, 21e. ; Camay W Ditffryn Making, 23e.-Bhips at market, 85 ; sold, 611. --- TEI3 GULP iriminin.N.—lt appears from an officid abstract of the lm of the Great Eastera's aigineer, that tie third voyage of that raged to New Yolk occupied Bins dsw 18 hours and 45 indantm. The greatest camber of know/ on one day appears to have been on the 15th, when as made 348. The neatest inclination of the ship to winded to has lima fair degrees • ' to leeward, 5.5; ad r an greatest camber of oscillations per minute was 5.1 From, the gagiesgr's newts' remarks it appears that it 3.15 p.m.. as the Bth lash, she discharged pilot, fall spa at 3.30 p.m. ;as the 9th and 10th there was a strong bad wind ; and es the 11th. a strong bead wind and dor fog ; os the 12th, a strong head wind ; ca the MO, a doing N.W. plea sad heavy bead sea ; co the 14a, a dem fog. sad the anal wad several icanwp ; os the I*s light head wind—paged general /stage ; os the 164 k ties was a dame far, and the engins were dapped twice to take soluidino ; at 8.30 p.m. on the 17thlag took pilot a board; at 7.30 a.m. ow the 189th arrived off Bandy Hook The indicated horse-power of paddle agate, 3,411 • dine gnaw engiaes. 4,886 hone-power. Density of waits it balm, lg. Vacuum in paddle engines, 25.5 ; ditto in ewes swiss', 25.5. Extreme diameter of paddlewheel. 50 ton; riffentive diameter, 48 feet=-150.79 fest. Beth realonis, pitch of screw, 44 feet. immersion leaning Milford, 2.6 t. 3in. forward, aft 26ft. Bin. ; ditto on arrival at New Von, 19ft. 6in. forward, aft 25ft. Slip of paddle-wheel, 12.6 pe cast. ; ditto maw, 20.3 per mot. Aversge daily oaammap Mogi of coals, par paddle engines, 119 tons ; ditto, screw engines, 152 tons ; total daily consumption 27l toot Du Buoy's delicious health-restoring Revalents Arablca Food saves fifty times Its cost In other remedies , re l UK di di Z i p ti , m ftn i crog i ll regularity, a nerve, sound re% F l a to tei mat or enfeebled, and removing speedily sad eau- Man (dyspepsia), habitual coosUpatioa. &lAA an guide , spementa, fevers. Maimorrbolda Ilver Istalessy, narrowness, billouineis, fevers, tae estanlis colds, Bakens, noises In the bead sod an, 1 10616 '. ' A.. ' r e 4:: .._---, Intriritiee, eruptions, hysteria, ricilmildik liruo' litg. _ acidity, palpitation, heartburn, headsets, delailty„ cramps, spasms, nausea and sickness . motet sta. 9 00 16 1 . bronchitis, consumption. A few r d 60,000 cures :—Cure No. 49.711 General Baron de ?AWL.** of many years' fearful disorders of the digestive f gonna - Cure No. 47321: Mtn Elisabeth Jacobs, of 1.41414 vicus 4 Waltham-cross, Herta, a cure of extreme nervousness, libb*. ~ petlou. Bathe as , low virile, aud pernma h ones —'m in canisters, Ilb., 2. 9d. ,• 11b., U. ild. ; 111 b., 22t.: N a. KW The nib. and 241 b. canister. free on reont d PostnMes order by Barry Du Barry and 77. Beflefitgr ek Loudon, and 16, Place Vendome, Paris: al so at Fortnum 1/4 ' Meads, Plemidilly ; 61, Oraoseburchstrset; 4. ebeel.. 4 4 and LSO, Ozkedatriat ; NO, Strand, landou.--(Adverioa.Lt, BIRTHS, MARRIAGES, AND DEATHS. BIRTH& AITIEN.—May 28, at Albany- , Weetsdalter.rowl. tie " g ' of Mr. H. Althea, of • ter. CAINZGY.—May IT, M .etland, near idinhorfir h the P. Carona, Eels, of • da ugh ter. CLIFFORD.—bIoY at the Orange, Farnham, the vile 01 Clifford. too t oth lisseere. of • 0 00 . HALDANIL—May 27. at Cbarlottesouare. Edinburgh, thy' HARtIRv*4 Haldase,_loq.. of • daghter. * a t Arbortleld Hall, Beets the .1h Hargreaves, of daughter. tit le, at AMMO Cottage, Longhwall, Armgh• wits at the Rae. J. R. Rave, of a WS. thr LlMDfalr•—gag rt. at Lower Oardioer4treet, Debh• of B. UndsaY. In. of lidavetter. MARRIAGE& BARNETT—A/WILL —May 2& fit. Luke's, Hollosti !,• Barbet', Lg., of Canoubary, to li mna, daughter of J. CA /11— e DThArtgi —1g.727, 14°1 the Zee. B. Natalia, ReaeAdmiral W. L. Cut of t Mania, daughter of the late R. A. Daniell, ESQ.. of at Lymiagton Church. IWO" 131= 1 -rirOX.—May 20, at St. Bride's, Dublin. bf Burnett. T. Abe& Eaq V.A.. of Dublin. to Jeanine... s— the late F. B. Knox, Eaq , formerly of the sth lase 8111 ° I "rda T11— . PUOIL—May 22 1 7 . Bt. Pe te Mead, by the Rev. W. B. Elliot, Thomas Eliot. soe '" lionith, Ba g ., of Camberwell, to Annie, daughter of & T •••- ileq., of Belsisepark. DEATHS. 1120 ww• — mss 17, at Ertztoe-Plaee, &way, T. lime n. 1 "., aell te. =HARM—Mae sr, et Behidere read, Princeapart. L''' idow jar Rev. J. Ideretcla, Baptist Melaka. aged 7 s . ~y Y.—]l Ha. at Berkeleyequare. late Hee. lege Ladeat=7. MAITIN.--142 ag, at y yadae, B ee mondßl e l ''' tin, See, i. PEELay 2T, Jens, dateitter at the late J. reel. t . `.. Acerlaelea Ildeee taieeddre, aged N. 's ole RALPH., 14 le Leask Idea Rhodes Ralph, FPI • '"' Ledge iw.eipd IS _. Pr=alb.Z....rialobed WU/1411 JUNI u.« la Its elOy al Loudon, Punter.o Mao la loalbas4daset. la tha hoelac% a/ W1atc.,3.0. UMW, NAT 11. Itt ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH COMPANIES ALTR. Colonel W. PATEN asked the President of the Board of Trade whether it was the intention of the government to introduce any measure during the present session for regu lating the construction of lines of electric telegraph on public roads and lands adjoining thereto, and whether care had been taken to insert in all private Dills having this object clauses rendering electric telegraph companies liable to future general legislation' He also asked, whether, in the pieta of parliament which had been passed in former sessions, clauses had been inserted rendering existing companies liable to future general legislation? Mr. M. °MON said, with regard to the last question which his hon, friend had put, as to whether companies which had obtained acts of parliament to construct electric telegraphs were at any time subject to future legislation, be believed that none of the acts contained such a clause. &me of them, be thought about one-half, had got a clause ' which gave to parliament a power of interference at the end of ten years. He bad a copy of the clause, which stated ! that "at any time after the expiration of ten years from the passing of this act the regulations of the company with regard to the transmission of messages and the opening of streets shall be subject to the revision of parliament, and parliament shall then require and enforce the adoption and performance by the companies of such modified or other re gulations in the matters aforesaid as shall be deemed neces sary for the protection and convenience of the public." There was no clause as to general legislation by parliament, but he purposed communicating with the chairman of ways and means, and suggesting to him the propriety of inserting such a clause in any bill now before parlia ment. With regard to the first part of the question, as to whether it was the intention of government to introduce any measure during the present session for regu lating the construction of lines of electric telegraph on pub lic made and land adjoining thereto, the subject was under consideration, but it was a matter of considerable difiiculty, and he could not undertake as at present advised to intro duce any bill on the subject this sago% THE HOESFALL MONSTER GUN. Mr. LAIRD 'shed the decretar7 of State for War if the War-ofilee had decided that the Montan monster gen should be tested against the Warrior and other targets ; and it so, when such crud would tate place. Sir G. C. LEWIS replied that it had been decided that some experiments should be made with a view of testing the power and capability of the gun in question, but nothing had been decided with regard to the precise nature of these experiments. POLICE REGULATIONS BILL. Mr. HENLEY asked the hon. member for Yarmouth whether he would postpone the bill standing in hie name for Tuesday next until after the holidays, u there wu no probability that it would oome on on Tuesday. Sir H. TRACEY said be wee quite ready to postpone the bill until after the holidays. MERCHANT SHIPPING BILL Mr. M. GIBSON. in reply to a question from Lord Haman, rid he proposed to take this bill on Monday next. THE COMMAND OF REGIMENTS.—THE PURCHASE SYSTEM. On the motion for going into committee of supply, General Sir DE L. EVANS ruse, pursuant to notice, to move, "That in the opinion of this house no further post ponement ought to take place in giving effect to the pro miaow of government that the command of regiments should no longer be purchueable, and that the promotions to that rank should henceforth be regulated by *election upon the responsibility of the Commander-in-Chief." The hon. sad gallant general addressed the house for some time in sup port of his motion, but in so low a tone of voice as to oe utterly inaudible in the gallery. Lord STANLEY seconded the motion. Sir G. C. LEWIS said that in consequence of the amal gamation of the Queen's and the Indian army, there were to be twelve new regiments created, three of cavalry and nine of infantry, in which commissions would be given without purchase, and promotion would be by seniority up to the rank of field officer ; and until the government bad had experience of the system of non-purchase in these corps, which, however, had not yet been formed, it was not intended to act upon the decision which had been commu nicated to the house. But there were still other difficul ties in the way of carrying out the recommendation of the commissioners, one of which was that a general abolition of the system of purchase in cavalry, guards, and line, would entail an expenditure of not lees than 7,156,0001 as compensation, and even for the more limited abolition in the case of heutenant-colonela pointed at in the motion, a sum of 494,6901. Ho could not, there fore, assent to the motion. General PEEL objected to the recommendation of the commission, and particularly to the House of Commons in terfering with the command or the discipline of the army. The report of the commission was signed by six out of the ten members of which that body wan composed, while the majority of the military members protested against the de cision of their colleagues. After some observations from Colonel NORTH, Lord STANLEY spoke at some length in defence of the recommendations of the commissioners, enumerated the various objections which were urged against the existing system of purchase, sod passed in review and combated those which were put forward in opposition to the proposal to grant promotion by selection, upon the responsibility of the Commander-in-Chief. The government might ex cuse themselves as they pleased, but as a cabinet they were certainly pledged to carry out the recom mendations of the commissioners. They had formally given a pledge to do so in that house ; and although that pledge might go the way of some other pledgee, end this reform might go the way of some other reforms, the present was not an age that was likely to be tolerant of abuse ; and lie ventured to say that in a quarter of a cen tury not a rag of the system of purchase would be re maining. Lord PALMERSTON opposed the motion, addressing himself particularly to the arguments of Lord Stanley, and justified the government for having changed their purpose. On a division the motion was negatived by 247 to 62. Colonel DICKSON directed attention to the recent agrarian murders perpetrated in Ireland, and in the course of the discussion the house was counted out. ETHNOLOGICAL SOCIETY OF LONDON.—The next meeting of the society will be held ow June 3, at 8 o'clock, when the following papers will be read : 1. " On the Wild Tribes of Borneo, ' by Spencer St. John, Esq. 2 "On the Wild Mitsui of Kurdistan," by William Spottiswoode, Fe%, Hoe. Sec. "Os the Lew of Growth, " as disoovered by Dr. Liharsik. by Dr. Edward Pick. 4. A short • collected la Australia by Mr. Walcott, communial aba blg Grew the Duke of Ne mastic CRYSTAL PALACI. —The entire series of great fountain will be displayed at a quarter to three to-da, and tbs moan will unusual interest, from the fact of Y. Aubses Reaad march, which was composed for the ineuguratioa of tho International Exhibitioe, being per formed, is addition to which a cantata, composed by Yr. Hoary Lein to beacon of the approaching marriage of her Royal Higbee= the Primer Alice, and said to nuns many musical beanies, will be produced for the first time to the public. Madman eberriaglon and Mr. Sunday will take the priacdpal solo put; sapparteal by an e ff ective chorus of 150 performing. PRIVATE BUSINE33 The following bills were read a third time. and prod : Mid Wales Railway (Deviation. kr.) ; Hairston and Cheshire Junction Railway West Riding, Hull, sad Grimsby Railway, Bills. CHANNEL ISLANDS' GARRISONS. On the motion of Sir F. SITU. an address waa lined to fora return of the expense incurred is ssaintainhig garri sons in each of the Channel blends, in the years 1810 aid 1860 respectively, showing the monist expended for the pay I. each year for staff and regimental officers, non commissioned officers and privates, and the nurueriml strength of each garrison m each year. MR. STANSFELD'S MOTION ON THE NATIONAL EXPENDITURE. Lord PALMERSTON gave eotios of his intention to move the following asesodurest os Kr. Sersdeld's forth coming motion on the ustieeal expenditure :—" That this house, deeply impremed with the seoweity of amosory is I - 16 I