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Majority against the government The announcement of this result was hailed with loud Br a majority of 234 to 215, the House of Commons has expressed its regret that Ministers did set answer the insolently dictatorial despatch of Count WALEWiIIi, before proceeding to introduce their Conspiracy Bill. This may not be quite equivalent to a vote of want of confidence, but it certainly le a sole of censure, and tlntta not much more flattering to the Cabinet. Every friend to the honour and dignity of the country will thank Mr. MI oi ta GIBSON for having afforded the House of Commons this opportunity of expressing its regret at the failure of the Foreign-office to answer the demand of the French Government for the adoption of new penal measures against foreigners domiciled amongst tis. Apart from the tone of assumption and dictation in which the demand was officially made, and the offensive and threatening language an-officially, but not the less significantly, used to enforce it in high quarters, the mere fact that a powerful ally should formally require the responsible Ministers of en English Sovereign to change the legislative or administrative policy of the country ought at any time to have elicited a serious and deliberate answer. To have permitted such a requisition to pass unrebuked, or to have suffered the incompatibility of its purpose with all we hold traditionally most dear in national liberty to pass undemonstrated, would, in former days, have subjected a Minister to the gravest re proach. Lord atwimestrav thought so when he wrote his oft-quoted reply to the summons of NAPOLEON I. that we should surrender, at his dis cretion, our political individuality. The Foreign Secretary of England in 1803 was a Tory, as were a majority of his colleagues in the administration ; but he was animated with the true spirit of an Englishman, and with the entire ap proval of the Sovereign and Parliament of the time he put courteously, but unflinchingly, on record the reasons why it would have been unbecoming is him to entertain foreign suggestions for changes in our domestic laws. Lord HswitzsaullY answered with sense and spirit, with the calm courtesy of a minister who had no wish to involve his country in &quarrel, but with the dignified firmness that is always best calculated to remind a rash intermeddler that he is in the wrong. Hs had to deal, as he well knew, with an impetuous soldier intoxicated with victory and fall of dreams of conquest and aggres sion. Yet he did not falter for an instant, or truckle by the use of an equivocal phrase. The true instinct of honour guided his pen, and guided it successfully. The first ICAPOLEON knew how to respect courage in diplomacy as well as in the field ; and angry though he was, or affected to be, et the inflexibility of the British Government in resisting his attempt to browbeat them, he did not recall his ambassador, or even talk of going to war. Unhappily, Lord CLARRNDON has pursued a dif ferent course. Though bred a Tory and trained in the maxims of the party, the present FoREIGN BacarrAtte seems to have imbibed little of the high and resolute spirit which, with all their faults, dis tinguished the Statesmen of Mr. Puss's School. And Lord PALMIRSTON, who is now the sole sur vivor of the clam to which the NAWKESBURTS and WELLE9LLTS and CANNINOS belonged, seems to lave outlived alike their policy and their pluck. How would the men who did not hesitate to repel the Great NAPOLKON'II insolent interference regard the faint-hearted and unworthy silence in which the ceders of M. WALERSILI and the menaces of M. PER MONT have been received? Could they rise from their marble tombs and come once more to judg ment, there cannot be a doubt that each of them would cast his @mental shell of reprobation along with those of nearly every man of note or mark in the present House of Commons. What is NAPOLEON 111. compared with his illustrious predecessor? What is lie individually, or by the luck of revolutionary catastrophe and coup-ditat, that the Government of Great Britain should mutely kneel before him? We are not now arguing the provisions of the Conspiracy Bill. By their own merits they must stand or fall. Bat many a man who conscientiously, though we think erroneously, voted Love to bring in that mea sure, indicated lest night his desire to distinguish between that vote sod his approval of the conduct of Lord CLARENDON. Reluctance to give needless umbrage to the present ruler of Prance was the single motive that induced many to assent to Cue introduction of • bill of some kind ; but contempt for the pusillanimity that could permit M. Watewiet's first despatch to remain unanswered has all the more naturally sought and found vent in the more recent discussion and vote. We stated at the time, whet we believe to be strictly emu_ eate, that a considerable number of Lord Daatit's THE EXPRESS. SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 20, 1858. followers consented to vote for the first reading rather than displace Lord Palmas-run on the general question whether some modification might not be made in our municipal law which would convince the French EMPEROR of our national un willingness to see him personally harmed. Lord Mousy and his friends did not wish the responsibi lity of office thrown upon them in a manner which would apparently preclude them from any mea sure of reconciliation such as we have indi cated. But Mr. DIIINAELI and others guarded themselves at the time, we are bound to acknow ledge, from the imputation of endorsing, blind folded, the provisions of the intended Bill, and, u strongly aa Lord JOHN RUSSZLL and Mr. Row BUCK, reprobated the deplorable weakness and ins policy of permitting the French Minister's im pertinence to go without reprimand. There is nothing inconsistent in the course which thew gentlemen have adopted. Mr. MILNER GIBSON'S amendment is one to which the whole heart and soul of the country, as well as of the majority in the House of Commons, has responded. Bat the airertors of English liberty and English honour must not rest contented with this victory. They must be prepared to resist the attempt, if per sisted in, to desecrate the Statute-Book by the in scription of the Conspiracy Bill as an Act. Hitherto our laws, whether lenient or severe, have been indigenous ; but if the present piece of French manufacture should ever be smuggled through Parliament, we shall hereafter have the unenviable privilege of being governed by laws exotic in their nature and of foreign growth. There is no disguise about it. ford Patitsa- STOI4 does not affect to deny the real character of the measure or the illegitimasy of its origin. He tries not to hide the shame that is on the face of it, and the brand of legislative bastardy that is upon its brow. With the nonchalance of • policeman carrying • foundling to the workhouse, the noble prtled of Westminster brought in his miserable charge, and got leave to lay it on the table. Perhaps in the new Reform Bill provision may be made to facilitate in fu ture the introduction of measures which foreign despots may consider necessary for our national Mil-being. Why not give seats in the Lower House le the Austrian and French Ambassadors, and • Wtifical place in the Upper House to Cardinal sous ? There would be in such an arrange ment several obvious advantages. These person ages, in their capacity of representatives of conti nental absolutism, could then bring in their own measures, and defend them in their peculiarly beguiling way. No time would be lout in childish jangling and wrangling about the putative parent egg of the precious little Bills ; and the Minister of England, as he used to be, instead of clumsily trying to play an outlandish and incompatible part, would resume his national character, and be looked at, perchance, u really an English Minister again. A LAIOII majority in the House of Commons have declared that in their opinion the presume, ill a fitting time to remodel the government of India. Legislation. of some kind or other, is therefore inevitable. All who have hitherto concurred with Mr. T. BARING in the opinion that Parliament is not at this moment sufficiently acquainted with the actual form and working of government in India, or with the wants of that country, to legislate wisely on the subject, and that the introduction of new administrators and new modes in the midst of a civil war, is an unpardonably rash experiment, will probably remain—as we do—of the same opinion etill. A vote of three hundred and eighteen gentlemen, the bulk of them in no ways distinguished from the average of the class they belong to for intelligence and information—can scarcely pass muster for an argu ment. And those who think with the minority in ths Commons are not unlikely to be hardened in their heresy, when they find it countenanced by the votes el men like Mr. GLADSTONE and Sir JAMES GRAHAM, Sir Francis BASING, Mr. JOHN Etuarr and Lord MILOUND, Mr. WALPOLE and Sir JOHN PAKING TON. In connexion with this subject it may not be altogether irrelevant to remind the public that of the two East India Directors whose able and instructive - speeches made such a deep impression on every die. psasionate and intelligent mind among their auditor", one, Colonel fivitzs,was in a manner foroed upon his reluctant colleagues by the Court of Proprietors, and the other, Mr. WILLOI7OHIS7, is a nominee of the Crown. Neither of three gentlemen is liable to the enspicion of being unduly prepossessed in favour of the existing order of things at the India House, and both are known to be men of a high order of intellect, and long and varied Indian experience. All these considerations, and the consciousness that they have been out-voted, not out-reasoned, may justi fiably inspire the minority, and all who agree with them, with a proud though melancholy sense of hee -1 b ig done their duty. But it is no time for them to net contented with idly indulging in fine sentiments. '!he h work before them to do. Since the House of Qlssmas Le determined upon legislating, it is their duty to do all that is in their power to render that Legislation as sound in principle and as efficient in operation as possible. The second reading of the India Bill has been fixed for the first Friday in Much. The vote on the seeend reading of any measure is understood to affirm or deny the principle or principles embodied in it. The delatory plea of the opponents of Lord PAL. sesstros's Bill having been rejected by the House of Commons, it is now their duty to prepare themselves to oppose its objectionable principles and provisions on the merits when the snood reading is moved. Even though they should on that occasion also find themselves in a minority, their power of neutralising the noxious elements of the Bill will not be entirely wrested from them. The Bill will still have to run the gauntlet of the Com mittee, and many of its most objectionable clauses may be expunged or rendered lees hurtful, by ap pealing to the common-sense and sense of justice of the House. If the Bill, as modified in Committee, shall still appear pregnant with danger to our liberties in England, or to the permanence of our empire or the happiness of our subjects in India, opportunities of appealing to the judgment of the House of Commons, as sobered by the lapse of time and enlightened by frequent debate, will be afforded when the Report is brought up and the third reading moved. And if the worst come to the worst, there is still a final appeal to the Hone of Lords. The scheme et Lord PALMERSTON is of such a monstrous character, so palpably dangerous from the inordinate increase it contemplates to the patronage of the Horse Guards, and of the Department of the Civil Administration upon which is to devolve the management of Indian affairs, that it is clearly the duty of every opponent of Parliamentary corruption, of every friend to the efficiency of our Civil and Mili tary Services, of every lover of English liberty, to be on the alert to do battle against it to the last, and by every constitutional means at his command. The work more immediately before the opponents of the Bill is preparation to resist, by all the forte of argument, and by an imposing array of facts, the motion for its being read a second time. And in girding up their loins for this straggle, it is en coaraging to reflect that they have good reason to count upon an accession of numbers, from the ranks even of those who voted against them on Friday morning. In particular, if there be sincerity in words, and value in professions, Lord Joint Rusanit.t. Is pledged to nee his most strenuous efforts to secure ■s against some of the most degrading and detrimen tal provisoes of the PALMERSTON Bill. " I quite _ . . " allow," said Lord JOHN, " the peat benefits that " have accrued from the high independence that has " always characterised the Directors of the East " India Company. But Ido not see how a body of " constituents like that of the East India proprie- " tors, can be kept as the future foundation of " the government of India. There is something " anomalous in the proposal of electing the govern " ment of India in this way ; and it can hardly be "expected that in making a change such a . . " bake of government should be established. On " the other hand, I quite admit that everything that . . " can be done to preserve an independent character " for the proposed Council ought to be adopted by " the House. (Hear, hear.) And I say of this part " of the Bill, u of other parts, that if it does not _ . .. " provide for objects that I consider essential,l shall " be ready to join with those who can devise better " securities fur the independence of the Council. " There is one other object I wish to keep in view. " The military service of India is one of the most " noble, the most distinguished, and the most suc " cessful that ever appeared on the facts of the globe. " I say that should be kept up, with all it•l honours, " rewards, and emoluments, and. I trust, with the " same benefit to India that it has hitherto enaferred. " Yon may say it is a matter of noimpoetanoc whether " we keep up this patronage for the middle claws, "or not. But this is not the point. The question " is, whether or not these middle climes have not " done all for India we could wish. Whether they " are not men who have, by great talent and per " severing labour in a tropical climate, raised them ,' selves to high positions, and have conducted them " selves in these stations in a manner equal to that in which the first Generals of Europe, and the " highest authorities in Europe, have conducted " themselves in the wars and negotiations of Europe. " That being the case, nothing would make me con " sent to any provisions in the Bill by which that " service can be injured or depreciated. There is ,' one other point upon which I should wish to have some security, but upon which I fear we must " make up our minds not to obtain it. I wish it could be said that in any plan that gives the " entire control of India to the Crown, we " could prevent matters connected with that " government from being made the subject "of party debate and party warfare in this " House." In these remarks Lord Joint has, with great sagacity, hit the wont blots of the PALMER STON measure. A Council, few in somber, and nomi nated entirely by the Crown, cannot be independent. The separation of the European from the native element of the Indian Army wlli place the officers of native regiments in a degraded position as compared with the officers of European regiments, and the in corporation of the latter with the QUEEN'S Army w ill aggravate the evil, and, what is still worse, vest the whole patronage of the European Army in the Horse Guards. Lastly, the subjecting of the administra tion of India to all the changes of the Home Govern ment, will introduce an inceament vacillation and conflict into its policy on every point. For these evils there is only one remedy. Let a distinction be made with regard to India as with regard to the Colonies, between those branches of legislation and administration which pertain of right and necessity to the Imperial Government and these which have purely a local beating. Let a government or administration be framed inwhich the latter branches shall be vested, while the former, and also a power of revision and control even with referenoe to local affairs, is reserved for the imperial Ministers and Parlia ment. Let the general organisation and the power of appointment to the local Army, and also the Civil Service, be vested in the Indian administration as now ; and let the majority at least of the Indian Council be elected as the Directors are now. Lord JOHN'S objections, as we understand, are not to the I elective principle, but to the particular constituency in which the right of election is vested. Let him lend his aid to devise a new, an extended, a better coustitnenc7. Let him propose, for example, that there shall be added to the proprietors all military men and civilians who have served Xi years in India, all merchants who have resided there for the same period, all merchants having trading connexions with India, perhaps some representatives of the religious and philanthropic bodies which take an interest in India. Surely some sem i eetteseicy may be devised, sufficiently intelligent, prisms& of sufficient property to be a guarantee against rash action, blending in its members Indian experience with English knowledge, sentiment, and principle, so as to render it worthy to be incor porated as the elective body for the Home Council of India. Such a framework of Indian Home Government would be in accordance with the political principles which Lord lons RossaLL has Inherited from his ancestors and clings to from sonviction. Such a framework of Indian Government is the only adequate guarantee we can have against Parliamentary jobbing, and Court favouritism andintrigne, in the administration of India, with the weskits= and wickedness which must be the inevitable consequences of both. Lord lows Russells owes it to his own reputation to aid the friends of liberty in England and good govern ment in India to the utmost in obtaining such a framework of Indian Home Government ; for there can be no doubt that his arguments and example contributed largely to obtain the assent of the Howie of Commons to the introduction of an India Bill which ought to be regarded with suspicion, were it merely for the character of its author, and which is marked by those dangerous features which Lord Joss has so shrewdly de tected and ably exposed. By labouring to substitute a really good India Bill for the dangerous mea sure of Lord PALMERSTON, Lord JOHN will regain the 00-operation of his natural allies, who reluctantly felt themselves compelled to separate from him in the vote on Friday morning—the &MINOS, GRAHAMS, GLADSTONES, PAKINOTONS, ELLIOTS, and MELOUNDS. He will be In a posi tion to command the support of those real liberals who are staunch to the principles of popular govern ment—the Tanavrivs, BRIGHTS, and Mlucez GIBSONS. He will pleas himself in a position to appeal for support to Sir Crum.= WOOD and Sir HURT RAWLINSON, who in the course of the late debate expressed views regarding India identical with hie own. He will have it in his power to convert the dangerous and unprincipled measure of Lord Palmas/ no?' into a real benefit both to India and England. If he shrink from the task, we may rest assured that some other will undertake it, and reap the harvest of praise he has listlessly let slip from his grasp. ALL honour to M. EMILE OLLIVIER. Amid the silence and stupor that benumbs France—the fawn ing flatteries of a menaced pram, and the abject prostration of a servile legislature—this brave and honest citizen has manfully stood forth to protest in the names of violated justice and outraged society against that monstrous law of " Public Safety," which surrenders up the lives and liberties of Frenchmen to the uncontrolled despotism of irritated Power. A law of " Public Safety "—its very name makes the blood run cold. Sixty-four years vanish like a dream, and we are face to face again with that horrible tribunal, where suspicion was proof, and accusation guilt; where there was but one step from the groundless charge to the mer ciless sentence and the inevitable doom. Two periods of history have hitherto been infamous for a law of " Public Safety :" the gloomy despotism which Tozmus inaugurated at Rome, and the fan tastic tyranny which Ronssentlas enthroned at Paris. Is it possible that NAPOLEON IN. can be mad enough to dream of making a third experiment of the same sort on the patience of mankind ? If not, what are we to say to a law like that which is now nominally under discussion in the Corps Legis latif—a law which, without the forms of public trial, punishes with an exile that in its severity is tanta mount to death, all those who "excite publicly in " any way whatever," who "practise manceuvres, " or keep up intelligences abroad "—a law which, absolutely without any kind of trial, renders amenable to the same sentence, those who have been already condemned and punished for offences connected with the political troubles of 1848, 1849, and 1852. In the worst days of the Roman despotism, in the darkest gloom of the Terror, a viler mask was never devised for screen ing, ander the guise of law, the lawless ex cesses of Power; and it is to the Potentate by whom, and for whom, this instrument of oppres sion has been invented, that Lord PaLseziurrox would concede the privilege, never granted before to any foreign ruler, of dictating innovations in the old common kw of free England. M. Or.mviza, in his admirable and courageous speech, points out with dignified and temperate firmness the various objee tions to this most monstrous project of law. He accuses it, and with justice, of violating all the prin ciples that civilised nations are agreed to con sider as of the essence of sound penal legis lation. It violates the great principle of the separation of the executive and judicial powers. The Government arrests, the Government prosecutes, and the Government judges. It leaves the fortunes and liberties of French citizens at the absolute mercy of the agents of the Executive. It violates all those forms which the uniform experience of ages has shown to be the only safeguard for the administration of justice. There is to be no pub licity, no cross-examination of witnesses, no speech for the defence ; everything is to be conducted in secrecy and silence. Again, it violates one of the first maxims of all criminal jurisprudence in this respect, that it contains no precise definition of the offence ; everything is vague and uncertain, every thing is left to the widest latitude of interpretation. What is a grave fact ?" what is, or rather what is not, a "practising of manceuvree," and a lumping " up intelligence abroad ?" Who is to pronounce what does or does not come under the words "exciting " publicly in any way whatever ? " The cold and gloomy hypocrisy of Tfikams, that sapped the liberty he pretended to worship, never threw a more fatal drag-net over Rome, by his famous law of fete majettatis, than this " Public Safety" Bill would throw over France. No law, uM. OLLIVIZII truly and courageously declared, has ever been proposed which violates so many fundamental principles. " We are told," continues this brave man, "that " the law is only meant to attack red-republican " socialists and enemies of order. But who can be "rue that he may not be obnoxious to its provisions? " When DANrox established the revolutionary tri " banal, he thought he was clearly comprised in " the exception, but shortly after his own head " fell on the scaffold." Addressing the Imperial Go vernment, in a strain the boldness and truth of which has rarely been surpassed, M. OLLIVIER ex claims, " You have governed this country nine years ; " you are at peace with all the world ; you have en " immense army, an able police, an enormous re " venue, atrategetical roads through your capital, " and fortresses at all convenient places. No liberty " exists. The greatest of all—that of the Press—is " annihilated ; and yet you come to ask for laws of " Public Safety. Do you not fear that the country " may say, ' I have sacrificed to you my liberty, my " ' franchises, my traditions, the conquests of my " blood—all that made me glorious among nations, " ' for the sake of a little tranquillity, and you now " ' ask for more—where will you stop ? " Heroic words—words of truth and soberness ; words worthy of a freeman ; words that ought to kindle a blaze of resistance in a free nation. What effect they may have in France ruts with the future. They cannot fall altogether idle. In Mwrott's phrase, they are " like the fabled " dragon's teeth, which being sown up and down " may chance hereafter to spring up armed men." For this we must wait what the years may bring forth. But one thing is certain. They ought not to be without their weight in England. They ought to make Englishmen deeply ponder before they entrust I a reckless Minister with the power of altering the laws of England to suit the caprices of one who is thus violating all law and justice in France. peculiar feature of the whole scene wee be me Mr. Gibson and Mr. Bright, the defeated can didates of Manchester on the China policy, bringing up the nut hostile vote against the minister. There seemed to be a Nat eels in the whole promoting. There was indeed something peculiarly appropriate in seeing these two gentlemen who lost their seats in the defame of British humanity and British justice, standing on the door of the Howe of Common, with a triumphant vote in vindication of England's honour and England's freedom. MINISTERIAL DEFEAT. Conerinacrr ro Iffonmez Bat..-Order for second reading read; Mike made, and question proposed:-" That the bill be now reed a second time." Amendment propmed, to Have out heaths word "that" to the end ache queetion, in order to add the words "this house hears with much concern that A is idkged that recent attempts upon the life of the Emperor of the Preach have been devised in Eng land, and a:presoaks detestation of such guilty enterprisag I that this howls ready at all times tamales in remedying any defeateinthe criminal law which, star due investigatioe,ere I proved to exist, yet it cannot but regret that her Majesty's government, previously to inviting the house to amend the lew of Conspiracy by the second reading of this bill at the present time, him not felt it to be their duty to make mme reply to the important despatch received from the French government, dated Paris, January 20,1868, and which has been laid Wee parliansent,"-(lir. Dillon Gibson,)- instead thereof :-Qoestien put, "That the words pro- Etto be left out stand part of the question :"-The divided; ayes, 218, nose, 234. • TES. Adana H J. Fold. H. J. 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BeimeLltino Brian Bertelsy, H.P. OCO, Gene . Bientere. Peter Hamilton, Lord Claud we BoiderA_Odoad Hamilton, 0. A. =gift = J. tit. A.:. reere,_Jeke G . &Aft Bir IL W. ftederede Ca i.r. , bore Myer O. Hardy, Winne Lard% J. Bedenan, Waller em, T. / wrawfwa l . . ' r. Bags. fir J. 7. Beethere, air Va. Busbery. M. B. WO. rem it a ti l kni i. W. w‘i L it 'llitim at Bey. recount arm Mom rewire Ilee. Wm. N. 13dKatkInft. Card. Jame ftftd. IL B. Odeatolleed, George own.. w. we Hope A. J. B. B. Sona Ha. tire& ClerdeAt id e b r &W. Hopwood, J. T. Bee" B. K. Oird ILL 800. IL Hom.. ft Han. I. a n J. 7. J. IL Hotham, - Lerd. H. a pall, Robert Hume, IA W. I. Marra Major Onethens, Jahn Hunt, 0. W. Maly J. B. WC *aft Ord*, armed Inge ire, Tker-O. Bala. A11(010111 tartan. Herbert B. Boob* Ahnsaks C.. a Lard Robert l an. ohayeree .... yak EA aneft . e i f . . d & J. Joilife. Mr W. G. FL Dern Yea Art-rd. W enera.Mas i ea AO. Btj k a W iL lA_ !Lefty. Jame Barn. OeL W. FL eisgm e r. w. lane. Hoe. P. J. L. 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Maim& Often& Taft Hon. H. T. ranahern. & BY Mira Waft WILLIS& earouner, tor rift MOW, T. J. Mem, Itt. its. T. M. Brett. lien Mills,. 1.1 BMA Jolla PAIR& Pon GOTT. mums log Gorr. Aenner. Arita Lord Hodson, Mr. Gordon,. Maier Mr. swami Carter. Mr. B. Lowther, Hon. Ilmidiff ft HIM Lord B. ul. 0' . Clot. Penn. 800. A Wyvill, Mr. Lowther, Capt. Oebledlr. Zelt. Hr. Minns. Mr. 010 In, OA Drummed. Mr. Lonna Lord at n wa.aatag, Mr. HBl, 800. IL O. Marc( I& A. Htedrasom.Lt. Veayiteert. Mr. B. G. B. Tema Mr. W. Ltheridell, Mr. Be Beare, Mr. Theater. Par 7. B. atom mr. m. 0.. Mr. L. entraps, Mr. pekoe, Boa. Mill% Mr. T. 'Butler, Mr. H. W. tne B. G. Boarst, lord Clog. Mr. Bea. J. sir p. „raft, ome, if= 001. Jona .D. Barto n - Lard !tartest, Cot. VOA HOM A. Bane Mr A Beelion, Lord Burghley, Lord _ The tonotiriner---- appear in the minority agebud Mr. Gibson's amendment :—Mr. A. Bathurst, Mr. G. W. Benda* Mr. J. Boyd, Mr. J. J. Clarks, Hon. A. Dun swabs, Mr. B. Graves, Mr. J. R. Mowbray, Viscount Newark, Lord Grattan, Mr. 8. W. Rapton, Mr. J. Rust, Sir F. Smith, Mr. R. Specmer. Mr. N. Stmt, and 81r H. Willoughby. Viscount Gotterlch, Mr. James Clay, Mr. Frank Crews ley, and Mr. J. D. Harris, who usually vote with the ad. winced Liberals, voted tut night with the government. The majority was composed of 84 Liberabi, 148 Conser vatives, and 4 Peelites, viz.—the Right Honourable& B. Cardwell, W. Gladstone, Sir J. Graham, and 8. Herbert. In the list of the majority for the total abolition of Church rates were the following acmes of members of the Government Chancellor of the Duchy of Lansaw, Mr. T. G. Baring, Lord of the Admiralty ; the Attorney- General ; Mr. Bouverie, President of the Poor-law Board; Lord Ernest Brun, Vice Chamberlain; Right Honourable W. Cowper, (step-son of Lord Palmerston), Vice-President of the Committee of Connell on Education; Lord Duncan, Lord of the Treasury; Mr. R. W. Grey, Semstszy of the Poor-law Board ; and Mr. W. N. Mowry, tinder-Starstsry of State. SINGULAZ RAILWAY AOMIninT.—A singular occident occurred on Wednesday, at our neilway Mance. to • passenger so rows 61 Torquay. The down dsrr mall bad 'hooked to it • truck on which was • private anise be longing to a gentleman named T r . In witkli anise three of Mr. Tnny's entvants were tird. As the in= being backed frees the Great WINANS MS into the station ono of the menials, • laffill Ilisilord, looked out from Me vemdow al ths emsh le wst y lho grcip:a , of brat the trafe. end ia lsol dl 'a on lds hod. On bisnaltg it was Mood Mot ho hod mode& mom dee inla ad gas, and hem for his roommy was et list sansteinoL Ws ma gioresd to find„lbeereme, that tad. the mos of the songrose of the Meld Omni Heopind. whisk 1•1111111kil be a s empty immapied. ha Is geogroming Ihmstolaly.—D'' liknety, THE LAST CHARTER OF THE H.E.LC. " Bnt, how can you It OK that charter r rya Pam, To my Lori Privy Beal, Vodre day. " Pooh I my toed," orks the Mugu* " you know what I am, And that whom thore's a wilt tbsetes a stay." LAST NIGHTS DIVISION. (BT AX I7I_IMNI411.) The deprecatory and dubious language of Lord Palm/Ireton in closing the debate of last night indicated an uncertain position of the government, and directed the attention of all those who were present in the house to the movements of members to " right "or " left." The " ayes to the right," or ministerial vote, had, from their position, to appear in greater mese in the body of the bones than the opposition vote, end it was supposed that Govern ment would have a oonsidereble majority. " There is Mr. 8o tad So and Bo and So going with ministers." "The Irish Roman catholic members am with bim." " Pam will be in a majority spin." "The old fox is not to be dodged"— such were the remarks of spectators as the division was going on. The ministers themselves, however, looked trues, and downcast. Lord Palmerston's reception indeed was ominous. Mr. Hayter did net exhibit his wonted agility, but sat on a " hill retired" at the farthest end of the home, with " toriknowledge absolute" depicted on his face. Yet, s trange to say, the newly appointed Privy Seal, who remainod in the house till the division was called foe, looked " all tranqu i llity and 'miles" The tellers of the ministerial vote, Mr. Hayter and Mr. Brand, came into the house be6xe Mr. Bright and Mr. Milner Gibson, the tellers of the owed ' lion vote—en ominous sign. The whole house wile on the tip ' toe of expectation se the numbers were given to the clerk at the ' table. The clerk writeedown the numbers on the paper. "Who has it r That is the question now. The clerk returns the paper. " Gibson has it." An incipient cheer has already begun, but is repressed for • moment in order to have the numbers announced. The four tellers advance to the table. Mn. Gibson reeds In a voice slightly tremulous—. The Ayes to the r lett, were 216; the Noes, to the left, 234." The 1111, chore wen now given out right heartily from all dries cl the home except the benches immediately Wind misistere—the majority including votes from all elelkse el the House of Commons, and what was most mussel, there wee some waving of hats. The whole minis terial bench looked downcast. But the most interesting and THE INDIA AND CHINA MAILS (NT aLscraw TaLsokAri.) Crux ova OWN conturownswr.) 8017111AMPTON, SATURDAY Moannnt. The India has arrived with the Eut India and China mail, fifty passengers, and 2,5001. specie. LAW INTELLIGENCE. THIS DAT. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH. Map at NW Priam at Guildhall. Baton Lori Campbell aad a Special Lary.) ROYAL BRITISH BANE. 81•13111 C n&T. TEM 0.17112111. ZIJXPEILIT Baowx, HOWARD =DAIL', UNIT DUNNING XACLIOO, HICHLILD NAiTLIT INN. ISO; WILLLUI DANIIL OWEN, JOHN STAPLETON, ♦ND NOOK INNIS CAXIIHON. Mr. Andorran, the bill clerk of the bank, was examined at cassiderable heath as to the past due bill book and other account books. He stated that the amount of the pest-doe bills outstanding on the 26th of April 1863, was 22,09111. 13s. It was thus cluaified . 17,1731.13 a. good; 4,3171.6 a 4d. doubtful; 6281. 3s. 76. bad; is coarse of liquidation, 17,1641. 7s. 4d.; under legal proms', 4,0461.65. Bd. The good and doubtful bills were of the same amount in December, 1851. A great many of the past-due bills had been outstanding since 1850. Witness balanced the past-due bill book weekly, and entered the balance in the general register, the balance of which was regularly laid before the past due bills coin algae. Mr.. Rawson attended the committee to receive teshrnotions for the collection of arrears due upon these bills. There were books showing the amount of past due bills and peat due loans since the beginning of the bank. They included all the branches as wall as the head office. None of the past due loins or put due bills were written off as desperate, but they were kept up throughout the book as existing securi ties. On August 29, 1865, the amount of pest-due bills was 24,2811. 165., and of past-due leans 10,7691. 16e. 6d. The witness gave the amount of poet-due bills at subse quent periods as follows :—Deeember 31, 1863, 24,7061. lea. 7d. ; April 3, 1854, 32,8041. 13e. 3d. • Juno, 37,0181. 14e. ld.; September, 40,3954 lie. 2d. ,• October 30 60,6961. ; Lisoeceber 30, 66,8981. 45.; January, 1855, 73,4161. 13a. 7d. ; Febeaszy Ap l2, 78,2031. lo Id. ,• March 12, 82,2761.6'. us, ; 1 12, 83,9211. e. . ; May 14, 88.0101. 14a. ; Jun* 18, 88,8441. 14..; 18 July 10 2 d l, 92,3281. Bs. Bd. ; that sum in cluded 21,1171. the amount of Mr. Tart's bills. On the 6th of August, 1866, the amount of his bill was deducted from put due bill; although no money had been paid upon them, and tuns , farted to bills continued with collateral security. The amount of past due bills was then left at 68,8581. 13s. 6d. On the let of September it was 70,3261. 6e. Bd., and on Oct. 17th, 71,8341. Ile. On 18th June, 1866, the amount of peat dee Inns was 16,3271. 13s. 11d., and on the same day the smouat of bills continued with collateral security was 3,2281.65. On the let of September, 1865, the amount of peg dos loans was 20,4771. 134. 11d., and bills con tinued with collateral security 24,3431. Bs. 3d. On the 17th Octane., 1866, the past due loans were 51,0721. 2a. %1., end bills continued with collateral security 24,3431. Bs. 3d. The former sum included 29,1951.185. 10d., the amount of bills discounted for Mr. Humphrey Brown. That amount originally stood to his debit in his current convertible securities account, but it remained for some time as a past due loan. On the 19th of October, 1865, the amount was again put to convertible securities' account, and the amount of past due loans was redoes& in coneequentis to 17,2171. 10s. I ld. The whams was than examined as to the " green book." He natal that It commenced early in 1854, and was confined to the amounts of the directors and the officials of the bank. The drat ram was that of Mr. James Baring, who had been a direner. The other name were Mr. Brown, a director, Mr. Barnard, chief cashier; Mr. Cochrane, a director; Mr. Clark,adheotor; Mr. Cameron, general manager; Mr. Chu& /sr, ea auditor ; Mr. Kennedy, a director ; Mr. Logan, a clerk ; Mr. M'Orew, the mortar • Mr. Macleod, a director; Mr. Mama, sdidtor ,_• fib. Napier, accountant ; Mr. Owen, a dinner ; Mr. Peddleon, asanary ; Mr. Ritchie, Mr. Bol ton, Mr. Scenes, and the two Valliant', dinners ; and Mums. Walton and Henn. Dad Campbell said the opuses appeared to have given a wend deseription of the book. Winne—The firm portion of the "green ledger" is copied in by Mr. Crawford, the rest is watt= by Mr. Ca meron's son and by Mr. Monne. I had scams to the book whenever I wand it. During Mr. Cameron's ilium in 1866 Mr. lade& Weeded closely.to the business of the beak. lie seed Mr. Ouneron'a room, and did his bulimia to • mini extent. I Celina say wheeler the "green isfter" was men by Mr. Kodak from time to time. In the course of his examination, the whams stated that the balance sheets of the British Bank, which were pre saged to the shareholders, did not contain an item for put doe Mlle. In reply to Mr. James, he said he had never seen the amount of pest due bills and bad bills given in the balance sheets of other joint.etook beaks. A juryman observed to Lord Campbell, that a comparison hod be= made by counsel between the balance-sheet of the British Bank and that of two other joint-stack banks. He thought that comparison was diahonourable to those two banks. Lord Campbell—l do not think that is a roper remark. Aa he as the balance-sheet of the British Bank is C 011• ourned, I think that on the face of it it is unexceptionable, and the only object of the counsel is to show that it does not differ from those of other banks, as regards the item which has been mentioned. Mr. James raid that so far from dishonouring the two hanks alluded to, he thought be favoured them, bemuse he had held up their exempla as one to be followed. The witansa wee under examination when our report left. THE POLICE COURTS. THIS DAY. xABLBOBOUGH•STRBBT. 0/11 11171 CT Or THE 00VERNMINT BILL. Among the persona charged with dtunkenneaa at this court thi s morning was an Italian, who gave his name Batista Daright; brought bikes Mr. Bingham by police-constable C 1 It apprized the constable found the defendant drunk in Pi ..widi4 at between two and three o'clock in the morning, where he was exceedingly noisy, much to the annoyance of the inhabitants. As he would not moderate his clamour the constable was under the necessity of locking him up. The ,Italian told his lordship this morning, through the medium of the interpreter, that he was sorry he got but the face was, it was all owing to the bill thrown out in the House last night. Mr. Bingham asked how he would have done had it been the other way, and not thrown out Didondant thought that might have somewhat altered cir ouroatances, and caused a little delay, as he should probably have then have got drunk in Italy instead of England. Being • r4ner, and his first appearance here, he was ditcher's& without a Ans. • WANDSWORTH. • WIZ= PATS DIIPUTZ. Mr. Joni Dowses Mirka, Mr. Thomas Harlon, and several other ratepayers tithe pariah of St. Ann's, Wands worth, attended Wore Mr. Ingham to 'newer some ad journed summonses for refusing to pay a church rate. Mr. Conellis attended at behalf of the parish in support of the summonses, and Mr. Bennett, solicitor, appeared for the defendants. There was a great deal of excitement exhibited throughout the hearing of these as, as it wee alleged that the rate had been illegally made. A number of witansee we.swoe bet the following is a brief outline of the case, for and es,:—On Friday, the 17th of last July, • public meeting, which had been duly announced, was held in the vestry-toots, the Rev. Dr. Booth being in the chair. A rate wo of e in atima the pan te o cl f the was am pelf c re . d ade m n i . 01 0 1 d ch w u u rch wo m m pe i n i ns gly , noonded. An amendment was also proposed that no church rate M ou ld be made; and upon this being put from the chair It was owned by a large majority, amidst considerable excitement. The reverend chairman then d ems• ded a poll ; but it was cannery to the uss of public that the chairman Mould take upon poll that day, propner of the rate Una demanded a poll, and the heir ruled against the wishes of many of the rate payers that the poll should be kept open hell-an-hour In the evening, end from 8 o'clock on Saturday LOOM lag until 6 o'clock in the evening. The result wee that the rate was carried. It wee contended that the poll should. have been kept open until 8 o'clock in the eveninr, to allow the ratepayers the theyvilage of voting upon their leaving of work ; end thatware precheded from von t* from Use unreasonable hours. t we. also slimed that a flay ought to have Intervened en as to have given the ratepayers notice. This course we. adopted on • former amnion ; but the Rev. Dr. Booth would not alter the time. The worthy masietrete took time to consider whether the objection was valid, and fir the defendants to produce wittiness to show r o t s = were precluded from voting by there not being notice, and the poll closing at an unreasonable /sour. On this occasion several additional witnesses we. ex amined ID show that there was not 'efficient titre allowed them to yolk but Mr. not decided that there was sufficient nail's, as the meeting of the worry and the time of the polling was all one meeting. He however declined to adjudicate. on the mead that team led bees gima of ths illegality of the role, and therefore be should leave the parties to their remedy in the Ecelesisatioal Court. Mr. Camille contended thin Sir B. Heirs Ad took Arai the power of the obi act, sad that his worship must olft upon the merits of the one. Mr. Wham and the saw sot only marred to cmapesits i 1 .... 4'