The Express. — London, England, 1849-12-06 00:00:00

the eritreo. OUTGOING MAILS end Gibraltar will be . The next Issas for Lisboa, Spain, fade lap to marrow, Deo. 7. The malls as Marseilles, to the Mediterranean, Egypt, Ceylon, Ind* Heap-Kong, rite., will be made up to morrow *maim, Deo. 7. The ails for British North America sad the United Mates will be tads up ea the seeping of Dee. 14. The Was India Mails, excluding Bermuda, Revlon*, Nassau, Headneee, New Orleans, and Mexico, and including . these ter Madeira, BC leen-dio-Nicaregua. New °remade, Chili, gad Penh will be dispetched on Dee. 17. The nails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the loniaa bleeds, Ens, Ceylon, Inks and Chins, Ma Southampton, will be mode up on the m erging of Dec. 20. TII• asibi for Madeira. the Brasile, and Buenos Ayres, will be aids up en lan. 4. MON WILT= AT LONDON BIUDOIL Two Dai—X4,o/1. IL ft. To-soossow—MasiNg. DIANNA *ammo. I 21A LONDON, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 6. MR. SIDNEY HERBERT MS COMB forward with a very humane and praiseworthy motive to institute a subscription, enabling , distressed needlewomen to emigrate. We are sorry that so amiable a proposal should have been backed by some very erroneous philosophy. England, exclaims Mr. HERBERT, apropos of her needlewomen, has too much capital, I too muck wealth. At a time when three-fourths of the land of England are bat half cultivated, farmers wanting the capital requisite, and landlords obsti nately refusing aid resisting those so l e c onditions on which cepital can be embarked in cultivation, we are told that there is too much capital. We can conceive too much capital in a country where there is a lack of population—where, in fact, there are no arms to employ. But, in a country where there is abundance of men and labour on the one hand, and of food and capital on the other, with as fertile a soil as ever GOD gave, the fault of all these three elements lying idle, and unproft able, and starving by the side of one another, must be the fault ot the law, the system, and of the social organisation of the country. Foe labour to make use of materials, and for capital to find thtm, two things ere chiefly required —freedom and intelligence. But the land is not free, whilst the classes upon it are utterly unable to recon cile present ex;geacies with old prejudices. There is indeed one kind of wealth that is too great in England, and this is nominal wealth—the wealth that is rot reproductive, not annually created or replaced, but which feeds on the real and active wealth of the country. England is too much in debt, the state to its sons, and its sons to one another. It has too many idlers, too many soldiers, too many placemen, too many mortgagees, too many of these who represent a wealth that has long since vanished and bcea consumed, but which is an nually paid out of the best arms, and hands, and industry of the country. It is the weight of taxation, public and private, the incubus of past and present prodigality, which converts so much of value and real wealth into the nominal and dead—this it is that paralyses the strength and precludes the natural efforts of the country. We must own that of all the periods in the history of English society, this is the last that we should exp ct to find stigmatised as over-wealthy. For the last few years, the not unfounded fear has been that all the disposable and floatieg capital of the country was becoming fixed, and rapidly sunk in railroads and permanent outlay. The consequetce was, tba: other large masses of capital invested in distant or colonist speculation, with the prospect tf their not being promptly or immediately required, were called for suddenly, and not being suddenly forthcoming, were far more deplorably lost than the money sunk at home in embankments and iron rails. We have not recovered from this elate of uncertainty and derange ment, to which has been added the derangement of the whole continent of Europe, together with the most uncertain and unsatisfactory state of our best colonies. The laws of comm.rcial interchange are in a state of abeyance and transi.ion, and thus the free use of capital is obstructed, and its current frozen in a tar mars than usual degree. Such is the time in which the Right Hon. SIDNEY HERBERT has made the marvellous disco very that we have too much capital. Ireland is there, with all its lands coming to the matket, and not a purcl:aser to take them : and yet we have too much capital. The physician discovers that England has a plethora of men and money, and he recommends a copious bleeding of both in the shape of emigration and a forced loan to pay for it, in order that there may be lees capital to employ in England, less produce to raise, less mouths to feed, and less poor rates to pay. It strikes use, that this is merely running away from a difficulty without meeting it; and as far as the land and the agricultural population are concerned, aggravating the wilful inertia, the factions despair, the superannuated monopoly, the increasing in debtedness and poverty, under which the agricul turists of England are allowing themselves to sink. And all these sophisms and heresies of Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT concerning the body politic and economic of England, are all oprpos of the distressed needle women of the metropolis, who, it teems, are rained by their being in too great numbers, and by the wealth of Lombard-street having overflowed into the tiny channels of the tailoring trade. The usual com petition in cottons and sugars has dwindled down into the struggles of competition as to whoahould make breeches cheapest, or should cabbage waistcoats with most industrial effect. We have read in M. PROUDIION and M. PIERRE LEROUX some very amusing diatribes against capital and against the bad effects of allowing too much of it to collect and to be employed in competition. But we were certainly more amused and amazed to find these com munist doctrines preached with such exceeding gravity by Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT. The case which excites his interest is, however, oat per se, a very hard and heart-rending case—but one which may be examined and diseased with out any common-place diatribes against capital and competition. It is unfortunately true, that in any kind of work requiring little or no skill, and pursued by an unsettled, Queered for, and nomad population, wages will soon be driven to the lowest minimum compatible with life. And they will be driven still lower, if the work be done by women. In most instances women are not dependent on them selves. They seek work rather to eke out a living than to make one. They soon drive men from their trade; and then, as they do not always require to live by their work, they do it for an 3 thing, for no- thing. If they have not fathers, brothers, husbands, they may have lovers. And a thousand circumstances, impossible toenumerate or depict, place female earners without the pale of that regular industrial state, in which the daily necessi ice and food of the earner im peratively arrest the greed of the employer in his efforts to reduce wages. The position of a young woman, independent and alone, earning her bread, is unnatural. In country towns, where all are known, and where it is es daughters and wives, that women work, there may be some discipline and morality. But from the wholesale employment of women in a great capital, a state of things must arise which shocks humanity, and must almost defy virtue. The proposal of Lord ASHLEY to enable so.ne hun dreds of the unfortunate seamstresses of London to emigrate is most humane. It is a boon and charity to those who are the objects of it. But such emigra tion will not arrest the evil, or terminate the sore. That will no more prevent destitute women from doing a day's work for fourpenoe, than a transporta tion of half the boors of Donetshire would induce the squires to build cottages for the rest. Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT may think it good philo sophy to imitate the Dutch, who burned h a lf the ir spices, in order to get a better price for the rest. He would fling half the capital of England into the ocean that flows between this arid Australia, merely that labourers might get a better price for what remains. Bat in this Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT would be utterly disappoit ted. Capital is never more timid, inert, and useless to a population, than when there is little of it. Look at the countries that have On the contrary, much capital, ttiouzh it may create competition, also stimulates enterprise in an in finitely greater degree. Acd no petty and puerile °on e:lesions from the trade of tailoring, and the practice of female labour said wages, can affect a great principle. WE have seldom read a document relating to the cmtroverly between pr..tection and free trade with more unmingted rgieaction than the recent letter of Mr. °Lows Fanntoc You No. In truthfulness so touching, in candour so unqualified, in the appre ciation of difficulties so accurate, and in demonstra tion that they could only be evaded, not overcome, so eamfacing and yet so concise—we never recollect having lead anything more characteristic of its au thor, or more remarkable in itself. The letter is quite a gem in its way, and Wee all gems of peculiar rarity, one most turn it round and turn it over to discover all its beauties. We shall gladly do this friendly office in the present indent*. Mr. YOUNG knows, we believe, that he is rather a favourite of ours; at least we have bestowed more time and attention upon his economic education than on that of most other men. We don't like anything that may savour of self-praise, but we may in passing be permitted to observe that no pupil ever made sloe derided progress under discipline than the pupil la Tomtits. Our system may have sometimes seemed severe. Bat it was in true kindness that we chastised. And look at the result. When first we took Mr. YOUNG in hand, he had not the slightest know ledge of political arithmetic. His education bad so lamentably been neglected, that he was accustomed to make the most absurd mistakes as to notorious matters of fact, and, from the absence of guile in his disposition, he used to commit himself on all sorts of subjects in the most curious way. Those who did not understand his na ture fancied ha was deliberately telling lies about ship ping, corn, and the Board of Trade. We never thought so hardly of him. We saw clearly.that he really knew no better. So likewise with respect to time. He was in the constant habit of talking as if we were living in the last century, when people believed in sinking funds, witches, and the danger of paying for imports in gold. Being rather elderly before he took to print, his faculties and especially his powers of accu rate recollection had grown misty. But see the dif ference now! We have rubbed him up and so re freshed his memory that he is quite another man. "To be conscious of one's iguerance," was the defi nition given of wisdom, by a very wise man ; and in this respect we think Mr. YOUNG is growing wiser. " Not to undervalue one's opponent'," was the maxim of an old tactician ; and the epistle to Sir lunt4 TYR am. shows that Mr. YOUNG has made great uro green in that branch of statesmanship. "To tell the truth at all times," was a proverb with the Dorian' ; and when could it more fitly be observed than in ad dle sing one whom Mr. DISRAELI pleasantly desig nated as " his Doric friend," in illation to his blunt and very inartificial style of speaking? We are proud of our pupil, and we have a good right to be so. He states the case of the distracted and despairing protectionists nearly as well as we could ourselves. And the merit is all the greater because the truth i, gall and wormwood to his " dear Sir Join," whom he obviously is moat averse to grieve; and the avowal is eminently calculated to dishearten and depress still farther their scattered followers. But virtue is its own reward. Oar space will not permit us to dwell on every grace in this extraordinary composition. But we cannot re frain from citing and holding up as models for the imitation of all the younger lads at agricultural schools the following passages, which we se lect as they probably were written—at ran dom. The expediency of shirking in future all distinct propositions in favour of monopoly, or the re-adjustment of taxation, and of substituting a cry fur the dissolution of parliament and a new ministry, was shown, as he truly says, by many con siderations. But more than all from this—that "it avoided the difficulty of defining any BpCeifiC measure of redef applicable and likely . to obtain the concur rence of all friends of protection. We found this in superable, even in consulting on a measure affecting one interest." Can anything exceed the simplicity of this? The ablest and shrewdest of the committee specially appointed to consider and propose " specific measures of relief," comes forward innocently and de clares that the difficulty of doing so is wholly " in superable." If the committee had been fortunate enough to discover what to do, they would have been only too glad to propound it. But Mr. YOUNG says that they could not find out what it was they wanted. or what even one interest" would be content to go for; and with the frankness and promptitude that belongs to him, therefore, he tells us so in the plainest English. Jealous of the reputation of the committee, he then proceeds succinctly bat argumentatively to defend the course which they resolved upon adopting. " To have devised a plan [of renewed protection) would have been impracticable. It must have involved a scheme of state policy which must have opened many points of attack, and might have embarrassed beyond mea sure any government taking office on protectionist principles, the great practical object we must seek." How clear, how candid, yet how circumspect ! Our pupil has learned to appreciate the strength of his opponents. He will Lever more leave himself " open to attack," if he can help it ; never at all events by telling the farmers that there is any distinct intention of putting a tax upon foreign grain, by talking to the West Indians about a differential duty on sugar. He is a member of a committee who have resolved not to commit themselves. " Native industry," and the " general prosperity," with occasional spieerirs about "betrayed confidence," and " visionary views," are all, that after the most mature consideration, they OM venture to say. " Specific measures of relief, out be adjourned sine die. Not even the advent uf a DISRAELI administration must be held forth as the era of relief. " Such a government ought, on every consideration of true policy, as well as of generous confidence, to be left in an unfettered discretion, &c." Who will my after this that Sir ROBERT PEEL de moralised or broke the spirit, or changed the feelings of his party P Here is the tone and the very lan guage of 1841, reiterated with the faithfulness—per haps with somewhat likewise of the faintness—of a distant echo. " The Farmers' Friend" was borne into power by the self-same party, Mr. GEORGE FREDE RICK YOUNG and Sit DORIC TYRELL, Bait, being of the number, who considered it inconsistent with " generous confidence and true policy," to inquire what they were making him minister for. It was quite enough for them that he was leader, and that they were led. " An unfettered discretion" he insisted on, and they . most cheerfully gave. When he was asse measly tnstalled in place, he would sit down sad snider what was best to be done. They be " lined and trusted blindly—with what result they have seemingly forgotten. As for Mr. DISRAELI, we are free to own that we I think he ought to be contented with the compromise Mr. Yourto has offered. They . both want office in perspective, and " • cry for immediate use." Mr. DISIWILI'S shibboleth won't do. Many can't under stand—some can't even pronounce it. The uncom mitted committee have weighed his propositions in the balance, and found them wanting • but he ought ad to be offended at their saving so, bec ause: they have treated all others in the same manner. All they ask and advise is, that there should be "no specific mea sure of relief" in future propounded, lest it might embarrass his cabinet, whenever he shall be called as upon to form one. What can be more handsome? EXTRAORDINARY AFFAIR IN KENSAL-GREEN GIME- Yzay.—On Tuesday afternoon an extraordinary scene took place is Kumlsgreen Cemetery, and which has created some considerable interest and surprise, in consequence of the body of a gentleman, named Hendry, having been exhumed, in pursuance of a warrant issued by Mr. M. H. Wakley, the deputy-coroner for Middlesex, without the presence of a jury. The deceased was a gentleman of property, residing in Hyde Park square, and shortly before his death, which took plac , in Scotland, be made a will, leaving the bulk of hie property toe gentleman with whom he we. resistive at the time of his decease. It being known, however, that be had made a will in Ragland, inquiries wen made, when it was stated that the English will had been placed iu the coffin with the corpse and hence it was deemed desirable to dis inter the body, an adeitional reason being, that it was said no medial man had been calltd in during his lest ill ness. The coffin and the body underwent a very rigid examination, but no will could be discovered. The body of the deceased appeared not to have been wasted, and there were still some plasters adhering to the chest. No will having been found, the coroner said it wou'd be necessary to have spat soortem 'imitation of the body, and the con tents a the amuck were removed and placed in a jar for the purpose of being analysed. The coroner directed that Mr. Oanett should parkins the analysis, and that the body should not be again interred until the jury had seen it. The remains of the deceased gentleman were then properly secured, and the jar and its contents were taken away by Mr. Herren, who was dire Wed to report to the serener the result of the analysis as ems as possible. AU the parties then left the cemetery. HOLTHIAD AND KINGSTOWN PACKETS.—Her jests's steam-vessel Flamer, of slow coach notoriety, after lay ing several months in the Whoa of Kingstown us. lesaly, at great expense, to be ready in ease one of the fast boats should break down, is at length ordered on Tuesday next to Portsmouth, when the diem and crow will be tuned over to the Fire Queen, tow fitted to sustain the postal arrange mesa so 'medial between Holyhead and Kingstown. A paddle arm, ikc , broke on Saturday on board the Caradoc, sad detained the vessel an hour.—Sawiders. THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 6, 1849. FRANCE, PARIS. WIDNLIDAT, 11 A.M. In the Legislative Assembly yesterday the proper within of M. Chum, to have nominations in the Legion of Honour published in the Moniteur, with the reasons assigned for each appointment, was read • third time, and adopted. Some money bills were passed without discussion ; and on that to authorise the calling oat of 80,000 men for 1850; M. Francisque Baguet having proposed an amendment to reduce the euxibar to one half, the Assembly decided that it &d -isarmed the discussion to this day. The Patric of yesterday evening says t—f , A council of ministers was held yesterday evening after the sitting of the National Assembly. It was in con sequence of this council that the note inserted in the Monsleur of this morning relative to the maintenance of the bill on the duty upon potable liquors was re solved upon. The report of the committee on this bill has been sent to the printing-office, and it is thought that it may be distributed on Thursday, and the discussion commenced on Wednesday next." The system inaugurated by the nomination of M. Lacoste to • sort of proconsulate, is about to be followed op by two or three important decrees, tending greatly to increase the power of those pro vincial potentates (that are to be) the prefets. The minister of the interior will shortly present a project of law to the Assembly, by which the teachers in normal schools (institutions primaires) are no longer to have the privilege of being inanwethie. This law is intended to prevent the spread of socialism, which hes always found in these teachers its most ardent propagators. Another law will enable the prefer, in stead of the central government, to dismiss the amaree of parishes This also is meant to atop the canoe al certain socialist functionaries of this description. Finally, the project of law on stamps for newspapers going by post, of which I spoke a few days since, is also to be presented for sanction. Already in anticipation of fuller powers, and se if in answer to the circulars of M. F. Buret and the address of the President of the Republic to his pro. Jets, several acts of vigour have taken place. The prefect of the Haute-Loire has suspended the mayor of Champagnao-le-Vieux from his functions for intentionally absenting himself on the day of the arrival of some soldiers sent into that commune to protect the collectors of the taxes. The object of the mayor was to leave the det:chment unprovided with quieten. M. Fournier, communal surveyor of roads in the Haute-Vienne, has just been suspended from his functions for two months, by the prefect of that department, for continuing to engage in manifesta tions of a demagogic tendency in the commune of La Jonchtlre, notwithstanding the warning given him; to desist from such conduct. The superior committee of primary instruction of the arroadimement of Thiers (Puy de Dome) has just dismissed nom his post, in consequence of his having promulgated socialist doctrines in Rastoin, the school master of Saint-Genest-la-Tourelle. In the Chamber to-day a debate commenced on the subject of a levy of 80,000 men for service from the reserves of 1849. M. Raudot proposed that the levy . should be of 60,000 men, but his amendment, as well as one from M. Buret, making the number 30,000 men, were rejected. The project then passed. It appears that the gover! meat will do all in its power to have the projects of law on the excise on drinks voted by secret scrutiny. A demand to that effect is in course of bziog signed. BOURSE. Foe Amount. PARIS, Dawes 5. For Money. I Opening Higheet. Lowest. Clewing. .-- - 3 per Cent*. 5 per OMB. 9O 60 90 90 91 30 90 93 91 6 , do. New Lain se , 0 0 0 44 0 ii per Cents.n II le •• 4 per Cents. 7O 50 n 0 n .4 ~ - .0 3 per Cents. 5 per Cents. do. New Lean ,, ll a a a a 48 per °rata BO 0 a II “ 9. i 4 per Cents. 7O 50 a a a a Exchange on London : 30 days, 25 50; 90 days, 23 83. Belgian, 5, 1840 Do. 8, 1842 ..... a Boman Loan Du. 44 Do. 28 Booxsa.—Pula and Rouen, 340; Rouen and Havre, 235; Avignon and Marseilles, 220; Eltraabourg sad Biala 102 50; Contr. (Vier 4ol4 ). 320 ; Bordeaux, 405; Nertk, 447 50; Paris and Bras burg, 300; Tours and Nantes, 276 75 • Orleans, 750; Versailles (right bank), 211 23; Versailles ( left bank ), 170; Dieppe and Fe. camp, 175. MADRID, Nov. 28.—Three per Mks., IS IS-If:paper. Four per Cents., Ilk. Fire paw. °auras, I. Bank of S. Fern mod, Is paper. F.rcLaDS es Landon, 30.33. ITALY. ROMAN STATES.—Letters from our correspon dent at Rome, dated the 27th ult., state that General Baragnay d'Hillers was to leave the capital for Por tici, and some anxiety was felt as to the result of his first diplomatic efforts. It was rumoured that the camarilla would refuse to enter into negotiations with him, on the ground that the office of commander-in chief is incompatible with that of plenipotentiary. NAPLES.—Letters from our correspondent at Naples, dated the 24th ult., state that otft•:ial letters from Madrid,recalling the Spanish troops in the pen insula, had caused great anxiety amongst the papal camarilla. Neapolitan Fives were at 91. SWITZERLAND.—The Swiss papers state that the widow of Count Louis Batthyanyi, with her children, has arrived in Rorschach, in Switzerland, where her sister, Countess Westerhold, has been re siding for some time. TWENTY PILOTS DROWNEo AT THE MOUTH OF TEE TYNE. On Tuesday forenoon a lamentable accident hap pened at the mouth of the Tyne. It had been blowing a st-ong gale from the east for some days, which occasioned consi-lerable loos to shipping propprtyon the coast. Be• tween nine atd ten o'clock of the morning of the day men tioned the Betsey, of Little Hampton, • light brig, was seen taking the her, a strong sea running at the time, and the tide about half ebb. She was shortly afterwards observed to strike on the Herd, a sand which runs out on the Durham roast from South Shields. The Providence life boat was immediately got out to rescue the hands and as quickly manned with South Shields' pilots. Twenty-four of them sprang into her. They rowed her down to the brig, and laid her along side, on the starboard side of the brig, the brig lying with her bows to the sea. A rope was thrown from the 'brig, which they caught, and fastened the boat to the brig by the bow. As they were getting ready to take in the brig's crew, however, a tea broke round her bow, caught the boat on the larboard side and completely upset her, and threw the crew into the water. They plunged about in a mass, and she did not right, but broke her painter, and drifted away bottom up. There were no means for assisting them, and the crew of the brig had to suffer the anguish of witnessing those who had come off to rescue them from peril sink one by one into a watery grave. Of the twenty four men who went off only four came ashore alive. Three of them, John Harrison, John Millburn, and George Heirs, got on to the beat's bottom, and were taken off by the second life-boat, which put otr with another gallant crew es soon as the accident was discovered. The fourth man got on board the vessel, he does not know how. He and the crew of the brig were rescued by theaecond life-boat as the tide receded. When the second lifeboat lawied at the low part of South Shields with the three men taken off the boats the scone was mat terrific. Fathers, mothers, wives, sisters, and relatives, rushed down to the water edge to see if it wee t. their's " that had been saved ; and when the loss was manifest to them, the wailing of women, and deep sobbing of sturdy men—men who had stood many a nor -wester, sad escaped many a peril—was most bean-rending. The most of the men drowned hive left large families, and the South Shields pilots, like most of those who join a living on the coast, intermarrying into their own calling, the ties that are broken are ostensive. The boat, after breaking her head rope, drifted to the south, sad it being thought that some of the men might be under her, as soon as the second life boat landed the three men, she put out to sea again, at the imminent risk of her crew, and grappled the upset boat amongst the breakers. They imme diately got her in towards the beach—these on shore rushing in up to the neck—and hauled her in; but, on righting her, all that was found was the scarf of one of the men, which had been fastened round the thawt, and with a slip hitch round his wrist; but, in the working of the boat, the knot had broken, and he had drifted away. The best swimmer would have had no chance in such a sea. The following are the names of the sufferers, men well blown by those navigating the North Sea:—John Bone, Lancelot Burn, John Burn, John Burn, jun., Wm. Smith, John Deakin, Robert De akin, Geo. Tynemouth, Henry Young, Ralph Shotter, Wm. Purvis, John Wright, James Wright, Thos. Marsh a ll, Ralph Thillipeon, John Phillip son, John Marshall, jun., Geo Tindle, Ju. Mattereon, and Jae. Young. When our correspondent cloud his letter to catch post, bat one of the bodies was found, that of Lancelot la ' Burn. y BRIGIITON.—W. H. Mason, printaeller, King's. !Nod, Brighton, was charged, on Thursday, u the East Sue llen Adjourned Seml.no, held at Lewis, before the Earl of Cnicheater, with having indecently aaeaulted Mary Elisabeth Ctar Thacker, a girl of the age of ten years, at the parish of Poplin" on the Bth of September lut. After a prolonged enquiry *4 jury returned a verdict of not guilty.' Zbe Court. OS BORNE, Dic. 5. The inclemency of the weather prevented her Majesty and hie Royal Highness taking the usual morning wall. The younger branches of the Royal Family were like- wise kept in the house. There was no addition to the royal dinner party yesterday. In consequence of the lamented death of her Ma jesty the Queen Dowager, the receptions at the Turkish Embassy will be discontinued for the present. A Cabinet Council was held yesterday afternoln at the Foreign-office. The ministers preeent were Lord John Ruston, the Lird Chancellor, the Marquis of Lansdowne, the Earl of Minto, Sir George Gray, Viscount Palmerston, Earl Grey, the Chancellor of the E' :chequer, Sir Francis Baring, Sir John Hobhouse, the Right lion. H. Labouchere, the Earl of Carlisle, the Marquis of Clanricarde, and the Right Hen. Fox Maul.. The Council sat two hours and a A deputation, including Mr. Carmichael and Mr. George Filer, had an interview with the Right Hon. H. Labouchere yesterday, at the office of the Board of Trade. Lard Ashley and the Right lion. Sidney Herbert had an interview with Lord John Russell yesterday, at his official residence in Downing-street. The Hon. Mr. Kinnaird had an interview with Sir 0. Grey, yesterday, at the Home -offiee. Mr. Tidd Pratt and Mr. Higham had an interview, yesterday, with the Chancellor of the Exehdquer, at his offi cial residence in Downing-street. A deputation from the association of ship-masters and others, for promoting a speedy and equitable adjustment of the Merahant Seamen's Fund (Admiral Sir Edward Cod ringtan, G.O 8., President), consisting of Messrs. Burnett and Purchase, ship-masters; Mr. Baker, Honorary Seem tary ; and others, had an interview with the Right Hon. H. Labouchere, yesterday, at the cffica of the Board of Trade. Despatches were sent off, yesterday evening, from the Colonial-office, for the Governors of Hong-Kong and Labuan. The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council sat yesterday. The Lord* present were Lord Campbell, the , Muter of the Rills, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Corn , wall, and the Judge of the Admiralty Court. Sir E. Ityan sat as a Privy Councillor. The case of " Gorham v the Bishop of Exeter" was appointed for hearing next week An appeal fr mn Bengal was commenced—" The Host India Company it. Ooduchuru Paul." The case was adjourned. THE LATE QUEEN DOWAGER. We have reason to believe that the usual ceremony of " lying in state" will be dispensed with for the first time during many centuries in the cue of her late Majesty the Queen Dowager. It appears that an objection exists to the ceremony taking place at Bentley Priory, in consequence of that mansion not being royal property. The removal of the late Queen's remains to Llndon for the purpose is also thought undesirab'e on many accounts, not the least of which ie said to he the great ri,k of accident from the rush of spectators who we aid inevitably endeavour to obtain ad mission to the ceremony. Another deviation from the usual custom with deceased members of the royal family is the omission of the process of embalming the body, which has been dispensed with by express desire of her late lamented Majesty. The second coffin, which is lined throughout with lead, was sent down to S:anmore yesterday. The fu neral, it is generally supposed, will take place at Windsor on &dual, the 15in instant. CHURCH OF ENGLAND SELF-SUPPORTING VILLAGE SOCIETY. Yesterday evening an assembly was convened at Exeter Hall to witness the distribution of the prizes offered oy a member of the committee of the oboes society for the I three bent essays by the sork'nri_classes on the objects of the , society. The Rev. litod HIMHZB, D.D., Rector of St. John, Clerkenwell, preside!. The proceedings were opened with prayer. The R:v. CHAIRMAN, after a few prefatory observe- dons, said the subject of the essays for which prizes had been offered was the practicability of self-supporting villages, established on the basis of love to God and love to man, as adequate motive' to exertion, without the aids of competi Lion. It was indubirabe that competition was attended with many evils, and that while it enriched a few it left a large mass of the community in poverty and misery. This state of things had awakened the anxiety of Christian and patriotic hearts. The iefiu,ntial erring of the pre*. displayed an excellent spirit in pleading the cause of the toiling and suffering poor. But many reflecting men thought that the writers dealt only with the outward symptoms, and did not go to the root of the disease ; and they were of opinion that Christianity was intended to introduce, not a system of anxious comj.etition, but one of mutual cooperation. He would not express himself strongly in reference to a system which had the approval of so many wise men; but he must declare his belief that there was something essentially wrong in our social system. And when they saw matters getting worse and worse, the consti tution in danger, and the ministers of religion impeded in their efforts by the sufferings of the poor, it was high time to think o: something beyond the construction of railroads, the production of manufactures, the iturzsvement in agri culture, or even the extension of church s. (Hear, hear.) These considerations led to the formation of a society, the of of which was to combine the physical improvement with the moral el, vation of the working classes. Christianity was intended to benefit the human race on earth as well as to prepare it for heaven—(hear, hear)—and the design of the society was to bring that holy religion to bear on the present as well as the future condition of man, to direct the head, to guide the hand, and to cul tivate tt e heart of the industrious classes. With this view it had been proposed to form self-supporting accieties, subject to certain laws, in which the co-operative should be substituted for the competing principle, and the moving principle of which should be " glory to God and good will to man." Berne months ago Mr. Morgan offered three priors one of 251., one of 151, and one of 101 ., for prises to be written by members of the working chases en this into resting subiect, and they were assembled that evening to witness the result of that muntficent offer. (Cheers.) Letters were then read from Lord Ashley, Lord R. Gros venor, the Bishop of Oxford, and the Rev. T. Dale, in which was expressed, in general terms, approval of the society's object. The following letter had, it was stated, been received in reply to a communication which had been forwarded to the President of the French Republin ; " Sir,—Through the publication of your plan for self-sup porting villages, on Christian principles, you have thrown fresh light on one of those questions whi ch most ebeerve to be seriously entertained. The President of the Republic, • accordingly, accepts with pleasure the handsome copy of your I work, which you have been kind enough to present to him. Your b-ok is deserving. in all respects, of his most particular • attention, and as the President feels fur.her your gcodncss in placing a work of his side by side with your own, he has commissioned me to assure you of his most ample scknow- lodgments." • This letter was signed by the chief secretary. • A report woe then read, in which it was stated that the three prizes had been thus awarded : —251. to Mr. Hallam, a working cutler ; 151. to Mrs. El'ztbeth Jacket, the wife of a sawyer at Devoe port ; and 101. to Mr. Waller, a working man near York. It was further stated that Mr. Morgan had offered to the clergy three prizes -501., 301., and 201., for essays on the same subject, and that several had been for warded to the committee ; and in allusion to the declaration of an eminent statesman in the Huse of Commons that it was not to be expected that the strong would join the weak for such purposes as that contemplated, it was observed that 811 persons bad, within a few days, expremd their willing ness to enter seltsupporting salves On the motion of the Res. Mr. LARKEN, rector of Burton, near Lincoln, the report was unanimously adopted. INDUSTRIAL ROME FOR GENTLEWOMEN. SIR Yesterday the first public meting of the friends and supporters of this newly established institution was held at 5, Harrar-street, Red Lion-square, Hon. A. R.INNAIRD is the chair. The CHAIRMAN explained the nature of the objects of the charity, which has been founded for the purpose of ex tending support to gentlewomen who, from old age, want of education, the sudden accession of poverty or ill health, are ' rendered incapable of self-maintenance. Mr. JONES read the report. in which the committee stated that after much consideration the premises in 'Layne street were taken in August last, a proceeding which in volved the outlay of all the funds then in their hands. Since that period they had been enabled to give the com• forts of a home to more than thirty ladies, one-half of whom paid their own charges. They further set forth that their funds were slowly ir creasing, but many alterxtioos and improvements were necessary in order to render the house suitable to the purposes for which they bad purchased it; and they concluded with an ear nest appeal to the public to supply the rum net:asti to complete the internal arrangement of " the home." The receipts heretcfore amounted to 3.561.16 s , and the expenditure to 3201. 19s. 7d. • but the claims on the small balance remaining on hand were stated to be nume rous. The meeting was addressed by the Rev. Mr. Lusignan, Rev. Dr. Hamilton, Rev. D. Laing, Dr. Aldia, Mr. S. C. Hail, Dr. Short, Mr. Futvoye, &c , who prtposed and se conded a series of resolutions, which were unanimously adopted, and several subscriptions having been announced the meeting separated. A WOMAN 8110 T.—At Rochester, on Sunday last, a woman went to the reaidenoe of Mr. Lee. a gen•leman in habiting a mansion in the immediate vicinity of the castle and cathedral, to ask charity. The coacher an, oho appears to have been an irritable man, and who had prohably felt some annoyance from her oft-repeated visits, told her to be gnno, and threatened if she did not take herself oft to shoot her. Unawed, however, by what she doubtless deemed an idle threat, she still remained, when the man lifting a gun which was near him, but which he probably thought was unloaded, drew the trigger. The gun was charged, went off, and its contents were lodged in the woman's neck. It is said that the coachman had previously manifested some symptoms of insanity. leckeconte,ll2a6aidifil7dwit tithilt: H bthy atl e the t re h et e ibl u y p e r .4, w r e sv,asedeseucrwkpieknfel s u nd n tee s uedpe a m n yiaa d walgtrine p ytbrih oo tigu e .°o4 : .tid)dheditne, hee.._ :,iittbsruitti%..,:eruhun.io:...:::;:4l:trwit:ti r sea-they wou go l an d tiep h ss av onn e f m dth e : d tt e ,o on tn s at sea. -..4.13 NAPIER ADMIRAL ON TY T . HR BOARD OF Sir Charles Napier has , in the columns of the they were worn out. Then, ar.d not eerie - a ee e t ,te B el bees awrer ae all pondgo built n es Ihr. ships I, 'Lie 50 guu ?1 ,13 i so aiorrose,Board oh addressed .Ai ai letter Admiralt y." "alterh teo mostLho i srd composition importantlmo h p n R tio u np a i: oi i nf l tar the a t i l n - Sir Charles's letter are, hie unequivocal condemna tthheemin ivenotoulrdesthsi,vieinsgh.sorinps.mcoorael u ju ep ilgoient e kiid i the ; ;,,,,,,,,,,% - emd " o years after the youngtet boy in the -- •‘"Ps , mei knew e l -- .1 tion of the dock,yard steam feel .. rtes, and his attack wider. The last, I think, was the Isis, and e 1 vie ' eta expense, an thulk thole who see wee the frigates, from 30 gene end upward& At ,1. -- ' 11 , uApodinniralthetyb.uilodfustghe an ste d am re t pai acto ri r n ie g s. o h pe e sa ra y tt ß ou : : of the t e h e e rt m ed a i t n a to ß a fr t igate. I bins: I th^se . wh o oenn i o " eat • al l u biat ee, I tolerable twollecked shi Th - at'. 6" ' -21 ` 41 : 1 0I rese: M. The pots. slaught er „71 the war we had 162, besides store a - "4 lade establishments w ar e : re m if an w y e o w th er e e r i w ee a l y in s ed of , r b e u d r uc w i e ng w o em ur t o e v i e w rg g ro ei w e n x large friaates were thought perfect: L en d til receiviaglbi - a la g g r great f ih a e t iae t : we e ?was thear.t d oe Tw i di f „ , Pt li n Liege American frigates; but - not a ws W aamd e proved they were totally inespabl of I LI " "'Wheat " could support. The (awry and machinery coat about way, and a end aasdt I r toearr there improvement. a;aiirlsbl;i:t' 100,0001, and I hope parliament will move for a return of es thPwee ta ia"m b o li tbak s aae h er e d d wan a aaag t yi Peartemouth, witn a staff that no private yard d e e the 24th oApril , Since urnher we had on hand, I find by • l o an e d l i i n g e „L i ut tai th dat td f 1845, • - a ' l- ---. " t4 7tetste the year 1815 Lr. • no less than 45 from 42 to 46 guns, only 13 f •"lnt alone. We had much better lim t ourselves to repai r ing been yards. the wo • kithbeelyredeoe, inan d rh co m m fee par t : ry it w w e it e li w w p h le a r t ta so do boi ne l i e n rm pr a iv k a e te n o ere ekliol I shall first examine what has have noth i ng to d o gates beet since 1815. It appears by the "N e List," become of the entree_ and afterwards what has become ot the 42 . ee'e engineers in tile factories they will gradually go on e w n e g d in e u by an pr d ir b e o r il e t e r e st g , an iwe d ere h z n l e f w e OUT aed 46., , ' et a ilc ia t a h a a a n a d d i a s aw no b t a le l i a p r t a O i l to sea. tithed by authority, and 1113 by other official d es 4. A , lee e w u i t il er be in gi lo w m te en ww tor k r e ep ..w ai g n ie , e an e, d an w d he i n f that all the 162 frigates have ee; - lune have disappeared altogether. Of those built sineelBle - 11 3 have been cutd to that comes under their hands. To prevent that as much u its t , own corvettes and 1 tanuese - caving chips, and lazwettes ; 2 into troop amp . titi , that they will manage to take every tathely steam ala e p n r gin ev e nte to d p f i ro ece m s . been eam turie r e i d 26 into h d a e l p e ot be a e nd t c u u r a n l id bels t° ; ccal e e . .Te o li ; 4 'l -,- . 1 possible, and to employ our sea-going eagles*: le when a I ll ' e w s e steamer wem , and d disarmed er the e l . s g l i t e o e u e l d be re re ta p i er n r a eri l l t b le y e r h e engineers n i z th e r s e y a n w d e the uld is necessary. Put them under an engineer if you pit use, but corvettes ; 3 ince screw steamers ; 1 petits 7 do it much better and muck cheaper, and will only ao what let him be an et gine er who has been at sea, and has no in- burnt; 1 lost. 23 remain as frigetes. Several of e te t 'il tenet in unnecessarily pulling the engine to pieces. clip As have never been at sea. The A Whiell, a see ' We have al eady begun to make steam-buffers at Ports- ve.sel, had her bows altered twice, at an expens e ogez• mouth, and it they are not stopped we shall soon have the and au two or three years in the han le of the esgie tw - 1 yard as full of unless butlers as Woolwich is sow. I don't know if she y yet. The Horatio le, ee"', nefitted for a screw in an extraordinar""ell With respect to the building, repairing, and "cOn- l i . • . Ymenne bx yet been tried; her have the other three Twee ,eatent wee, vetting " operations of the Admiralty, Sir Charles tie 45 built since 1815 remain es * frig& e 4 e --"" dashes in among their ships, and lays about him cpseking, the 42 and 46 gun frigates were - g t o e :eth7rt . much in the same way that he would himself rush frigates of 32 guns, 12-pounders, huilt in the war, - '''• , me t , upon an enemy's line of battle, or his namesake of less. I commanded two of them ; they were Tin d could meth( r fight nor run away. 1114, &nude memory would charge a hostile army. Sir a° . Of those tie tee without being at tea, the Amearn built ' 18,1 " Charles's failure as a constructor of war - steamers has 42,92 , it, was cut down in 1844; the & kw _ ~l e , me u in 18X ee doubtless helped to tour his tamper as a critic, yet is 35,001, cut do wn in 1844 ; Brilliant, built La 181'*; Ilia criticism deserving of attention. Here it is: 49 , 8031 i Ti.umes, built in 1823, wet 37,0d1l • B l ' - • t ease ~ On the Ist of January, 1815, the list of our navy was as 1817, cost 34,6911., and Hebe r le 1826, net 32 480 ,' "- follows : turned into hulks. In additioa to these, the tri Le ;;`: Three-decked ships Two-deck ' el ships 169 were cut doe n to corvettes, and the latter bea r? -- e t e 60 44 gun ships, on two decks 26 lengthemd, without doing her rny good. Tieris eadee -- ,„ Frigates of 30 guns and upwards 162 on the clocks, well advanced, were pulled to piton,• . eg i t e tt Ditto under 3U guns Ships and vessels under 20 guns 328 The liee of battle ships and Ingres built saes 1815 ilf. Showing a total of 747 slips of all descriptions, not ire broken up cut down, and converted without Mine 't e e eluding ships building, store ships, receiving ships. en. I met 619,7t101., and I dare say the outti , g d0wn , e 012 ",„ 1 ,,,,, ,- ' Mall now see what has become ot them. 01 the 22 three- &c , did not cost less than 200,000! ,it I may; --' Judge by te decked ships there remain tour fit tor see, two for harbour expense of *Wine' down and repairing the Dub*, ve t e ry seice, one seamen's hospital ship, and sine gunnery ship. amounted to 62,8391. I chuck it was *ter the first eaea 4 - All the rest have disappeared, and two prieou and hospital sae an attempt was nags to break her uo, and en ese te • ships besides. Whether they were all worn out, or made of the repairs necessary was sent, it *mauling te retie away with to be replaced by larger ships, I am not prepared Ties rather alarmed their lordthipe ; they ordered heresy to say. Six were built between 1765 and 1783, four between re-surveyed, the estimate was reduced to 10,0001., endk 1793 *id 1800, and ulue between 1801 net lel4 ; they have actually cost 0,9371. 151. 101. The enema of beee t i been replaced by nine ships 01 120 gut*, one of 110 gun., sod Amphitrite and Trincomalee I have no return of, but las. three 01 104. After the long vaperierve we had during the pose it could not be lees than 70,0001., balder the ne m ' war, the country bad • right to expect that the three-decked down and lengthening. We have now on the Nary Lug !hips built slime should have been perfect, particularly as we tear frigates of GO guru building, 27 frigates of 60 Ray a had one ship, the Caledonia, ',Lowed by all hurra to be eludiug those cut clown ; 10 building; 38 from 30 to e; tallithim; but the Admiralty of the day thought otherwise: guns; one Meeting-ail. I believe, good ship., theogli ini at an expense of 92,0001. she was converted into a ship in comparison wi h what we had at the end of the wu. which sails badly, and carries her pore lower than before. 01 frigates from 20 to 30 gun. we had, in ISli, 50, ales Lord Exmouth asked as a favour that the wight not be of which never ought to have been built. Six, I belie,, spoilt-in vain. mounted 22 carronadee; one of them and a corvette an Britannia is said to be after Caledonia before she was token by an American irigate ; they gelled too ado ter altered, but that cannot be, as she is very crank; Rowe and cape, and their shot could not reach their opponent liii St. Vincent, by the Surveyor ef the Neu, very crank ; were much worse than the old 28, such /3 the Iltede,trein Nelson, Neptune, Royal George, Royal Wdlimn, aed St. ship might have been copied if it was thought neensaye George, are said to be after the ealedokie, and I eupe they build such so all frigates; but the opinion then, as hew, are, but if they are like the Prince IVigent, welch was thee no frigate-built ship should be under 30 gnus. Tie I likened to the Caledonia, but co crank that she was cut ship seems of 16 guns, but numioally 22, were (*certain down, it is not saying much ter them ; Trafalgar and Water- frigate aby Mr. liorke's Admiralty-which eau otter e 100 after Caledonia, enlarged-the former is a good ship, but was persisted in long after all practical men though the does not sail, the latter I eupporie will be like her ; Camper- useless. They h ere now all disappeared except the Foxe down was built atter Impregnable, and is good fur nothing receiving ship in the river. as a three decker; Princess charlotte and Royal Adelaide Nevertheless, 24 ships of 28 guns, commonly called 'ter. after the lines ot Victory-the former is a geoei ship though keys," were built after the war. 0 e has he en cut dune small, the latter I know nothing about. Ail the ships ot • corvette, and answered much better; the rest tar slide three decks that hove been yet tried say very little for the appeared bat 10, and six converted into sees and reedier acquirements te those who built them. We shall now see ships, and a new class ot 28-gun legates, pierced tut iiii what the new syatein has producer'. Tnc Queen is certainly guns, were brought forward by the late surveyor, mad a good ship ; I have tried her in fine weather, and I never superior to the '• doekeys," but much inferii r, I Oink, It saw a three-decker equal to her. She went through s Ter.' the old ships from 42 to 4G guue, the greater part of sal alterations it is true, but I speak of her as I found her. have disappeared so I have already shown. In light winds and the seals clewed up with a mode- Some ot the " doniels " were built by amateurs, betwere rate swell, the St. Vincent, by clinometer, rolled 60 in not much bete r. Two of them-the Challenger and Toe the hour, 12 deg. to leeward and 4 to windward; the Queen -were so crack, that had they engaged each other wine 201 rolls, 14 deg. to leeward, 11 deg. to windward; the press of *ail, the shot of the weather ship would have gas Canopus 278 roll", 15 deg. to leeward, 9 degrees to wind- under the keel ot the lee one, and the shot of the lee ship I ward ; Albion 480 rolls, 15 deg. to leeward, 10 deg. to wind- over the trucks of the weather one. Of vessels under2o gar ward. I must, however, observe that the St. Vincent is a there were ne lees than 328. The best class of thee TeMllll particularly easy ship, and Sir Baldwin Walker, a much were the 18-gun brigs. We used to think them pristuoti , bet•er judge, says in bed weather the Queen is perfect. bat the Admiralty of the day thought otherwise, and bolt Frederick, Victuria, Prince of IValts, Royal Sove- a set of corvettes longer than the brigs. They were was reign, Windsor Cagle. and Marlborough are, I believe, aiscarded as being bad vessels and enure. Lard Spencer', built after the Queen, and I hope they are so, as in general Admiralty built a whole lot of flat and useless gun bri e ', sad our attempts at improvement have turned cut failures, and named them after his lordship's houses. They could neither certainly the Ailmirall took en odd manner to get ieforms sail nor keep to windward, and were, In coesiquence, d. . tion, ter when a committee of reiereece was appointed the adapted to blockade an enemy's ports. They are all pee ' insttuctions were as follow : -tt In the ev,nt of any nautical and that class will never again appear on the list of flu difference of opinion between the surveyor and the commie navy. tee thus constituted, the report of the surveyor is to Of the 18-gun brigs there are none left; some t f tam ,be referred to the committee and that of the committee are turned into chips, at an expense of 8001 . or 9001 . , ad 'to the surveyor ; who are to at.te, after having duly weighed did not answer. Tney have disappeared, together with CI the arguments in favour of their respective views, whether toe small craft of every description; there place has beet or not they still adhere to their respective opinions." I tskeu by a number of 16-gun brigs, built by the late sir wonder whether the surveyor ever attended to such an ab- veyor, sod I believe they are considered much superior* surd instruction; I should think not : and the committee of the 18 gun brigs, buth in weight or metal awl sane reference has been abolished. The San Josef is now broken &tore they were built a c a's ot sloops were brought he up : see was a good ship; but, beine a f ireigner, was never ward, by different builders; they are not bee heels, sed copied. The Royal Albert, by Mr. Laing, is larger than the still in existence, but much Manor to the three tornues at Queen • and there I hope we iutend to stop, for unless we the lets surveyor. can produce a larger clay of men, they never will he able to Aaother class of vessels was built-1 mean the 10-gen furl the courses. It more two decked shies are required, we brigs ; they wee begun in 1808, when no less them 36 were had much better cut down our bad three-deckers, and re- built. 1 suppuee they were intended to take the plea of place them with new ships. Prince Regent was worthless es the flat Mega and they seem to have bees built with a three-decker, but makes a powerful 90 gun chip. This is the same precipitation. After the war en ant we certainly an expensive means of getting geed two-decked conteeued building-though for what pupae God ships, by Bret building them up u three-deckers and cutting only knows-and launched no less than 64; font them down ; but as we have2llo d is* made blunders we had better foundered at sea, and men perished; e, tarn ' acknowledge them, (*eke*, were lost with 168 men, besides parsenger ; 7wese I now come to the two-decked ships; they have been cut re..uced in armameat, and top-hampered; 35 have bat up without mercy. At the end of the war we had 159 ships broken up or sold ; 12 turned over to the Coast Ward a of two teed*, not including those on the stocks ; 23 prison breakwaters. I have before said that a number of 160 ships, receiving ships, powder magazines, tlec. Of the 159 brigs have been built on the plan of the late Sturm* ' 4 hen been turned into bad steamers ;11 cut down to fri take the place of the 18-gun brigs; and a class of Mew gates; 18 turned into convict ships, lazarettes, receiving brigs, far superior to the old ones, took their place. , ships, &c. ; and 111 h.ve disappeand altogether, end all To sum up the whole, we have got rid, in various up, the prison shipe, tippets, &e., except one. Several two- since 1815, of 13 three-decked ships and 2 tiring decked ships have been broken up, cut down, or converted, ships ' ; 153 twc-decked ships, and 22 receiving Wee; without being at sea, as follow :-The Redoabtable, built in 21 50's and 4 4 's on two decks, end 9 receiving ships, 1815, costing 86,0491 e was broken up in 1841. Tee Anson, and 180 frigates (from 30 to 50 guns), and 17 receiving built in 1812, costing 88,7621., turned into a convict ship in shirr e 65 frigate under 30 guns; 418 vessels of elldesaipeow 1843 The Vindictive, built in 1813, costing 81,5401., was under 20 guns, and 20 receiving ships. We have badt II cut down is 1832, and was then put out of sight on thus decked :hips; 49 two-decked elope one of which Ini the upper part of the harbour for ten years, because been turned into a troop, one into a store ship, two into cal ler. Blake, who cut her down, contriveu to get els vict hulks, one into a lasarette, one into a coal depot, or guns a-head, in a line with the keel, which no other burnt, one broken up, one disappeared in Canada-I*mo builder had thought of. She has been at sea two 40; 73 frigates, from 30 to 50 guns; 39 frigates, under 38 coma-none, has been highly spoken of, and is now guns ; 161 vessels of all deseripeone under 20 gum, lel ile ready for a third. Since 1815 we have leuccheci 49 two- cimlieg small craft and steamers. decked ships. The Minotaur, costing 76,6621, has been con- In addition to the expense attending breaking up ships vetted into a c nvict ship without .being at sea; co has the and Building new ones, thousands of pounds have been gut Black Prince, and Defence, costing, 1 suppose, as much. in altering ships' sterns and mega's:nes. No las thing' Two which have been at sea have been turned into store ships had their *erns altered on Sir Robert Seppings' Ph a skips and coal depots; one into a trooper, and one burnt: by a return of the 24th of April, 184 G; but the apnea vo two of them were only built in 1819 ; there now remain 40. not stated. I suppose they were ashamed ot it. Twenty* Of the war two-decked ships whi.l have etisappeared, seven ships of different sizes, by the same return, had their slue were built between 1765 and 1180, 20 between 1783 and altered on another plan; some of them twice, aid the Ike 1793, six between 1796 and 1800, and 31 between 1800 and cewen three times ; some also that had b:en altered by Sir 1814. 01 the immense number of ships taken from the enemy Robert Seppings before were again altered on the wad during the war, the Canopus and Implacable alone remaie. plan. 22 convict ships-receineg shies-have disappeared oho. No less than 68 ships, by the same return, had tlaii It is not possible that all thole ships should have been worn magazines altered-oneof them three timeseind eight of thee out. The Canopus, taken in 1797, tied the Implacable, in twice. The expense, I suppose for the same ra,son, is not 1805, are still in existence ; what year they were built is Ide returned ; but the reason given in the return Was, " tlal not know, but as 11 have been converted into frigates it ha there was no means of ascertaining it." The same rum presumablee that others were tit for the same eurpose. We gives all the ships cut down, as 8 three-deckers, 14 tee know that the Tremendous was sentenced at Woolwich to be deckers, 10 frigates, 1 corvette. How many more have ben broken up, but was saved, became a trig .te, has been to the cut down since I have no parliamentary return to deUll Pacific, and is now ready for sea. 'We have now, in addition me ; but your lordship may form an opinion of the total° . to the war line of battle ships, two-decked ships of various pease when it cost 52,8391. to repair and cut dews the builds. Sir Robert Seppings introduced the 92-gunned ships, Dublin. on two decks, the same tonnage as the large three deckers. From 1815 to 1820 the navy coat the country 26,262,78 31 e Of that class we have three. The Rodney is the only one in this are not included the wages and victualling, which lb tried; the is a fine warlike ship but is not a very superior not appear in the estimates. From 1821 to 1819 the estiaem sailer. The late Surveyor launched two 90 gun ships and amount to 156,975,8581. ; of that the dockyards Mu nine 80's; there are various opinions about them; in smooth absorbed 41,396,0501., and the half-pay and peto° water I believe they sail well when not overloaded ; but 47,422,378 e when deep under • head sea they lose much of their sailing The navy estimates last year amounted to 7,068,731 1 . , 1 i qualities, and if the reports laid before parliament be true which only 2,079,0631. went far wages and victuals, who they roll terrifically. But without giving any opinion of the dockyards and materials cost no less than 2,568,9711 el e them, one thing is quite certain - is- they are bad ships, there lis in flair branch that we ought to economise, not in 50 are too many built and building ; if they are good chips, why effective of the navy. Let us employ fewer men and espie , have they been discontinued? That a set was made fewer materials. against the late surveyor is most true, whether just I have shown what we have been building and pullieB" or not I cannot say ; and we all know how difficult it is to pieces since the peace. Our chips could not have worn al: get at the truth. My own opinica is that we plunged into a so tut. We built bad classes of ships, and have been getiol new system with too muck precipitation, and have aban- rid of them as fast as possible. We built bad steamer, ge droned it, without being certain we have adopted a better. have been obliged to build others, and we are sell in a wleeti The present plan, I believe, is to give more length, reduce direction. We built 33 iron steamers that are useless. "' the breadth, and flatten the floors of the late surveyor's built four or five pair of engines that the steamers could l: skips that are not too far advanced ; and Ido trust they will carry, and we have been obliged to build smaller ones the try one before they go headlong into this new system. they can carry : there is where the waste is. The Allee No shipbuilder of the old school has as yet produced any- ratty costs 136,3031, 4,5002. of which goes to a First Lori thing remarkable as a line of battle ship, and it is singular who knows nothing. that the b• st two-decked ships we have for all purposes are I shall say nothing about what is expended in the is' those built after the Canopus, which ship Sir George provements of yards, because that was necessary; but le Cockburn very properly brought forward end saved went too fast, particularly at Plymouth. from destruction. Toe 70-gunned ships that take the place of the 74 have not been tried. Then are two of tuor , and we seem to have quite forgotten that there are such seas as the North Sea and Baltic, wbeie small ships of two and three decks, with a light draught of water, are belie. penssble. There are lan many places where the like qua lification is necessary ; and I well recollect that during toe siege of Cadiz we were obliged to look up all our old 61's, with a light draught of water, so that they might lay clear of the enemy's Midis. Arother thing we *cm to have fin - gotten, that all the work of the war wee done b the 74's, and that the large ships did not stand the blockade so well as the small ones. I shall be told, no doubt, that our 74's are not fit to go into the use, ss other nations have increased the size and calibre of their ships. That is quite tru e but there was uo necessity fur letting them go to decay and breaking them up. Some have been turned into OD• gun frigates, and we are now buildiug frigates of GO guns. RUGBY AND DeNCTIVRCH CONSERVATIVE ASP CIATIOX ATM CATTLE : 4 140W.—The annual cattle show, lowed by the customary dinner of the above asiocimisai the Eagle Hotel, was held in this town yesterday. The IS' hibition of stock was represented to be more thin ordinal* excellent. Lord John Scott, Mr. Calderstie, and fdr.Wo oo were among the principal exhibitors, and carried off pr!il corresponding with the merits of their respective sto ck • la! dialler at the Eagle wu not so numerously attended P usual. Lord John Scott, the president of the essotietit29: I occupied the chair, having on hie right Mr.Newdegate ,M • r, and on his left Mr. Spooner, M.P. Mr. Caldecott clikciesa as vice-president. The usual loyal and patriotic tOelt. propoend and seconded with great applause. M . Spooner and Newdegato were the great lions of the nih.4 but their speeches contained nothing new. The intchg broke up about nine o'clock.