The Express. — London, England, 1849-05-18 00:00:00

per gr.; white, 19s. to 215. 6.1. per 3201b5. French Beans, 30s. to ses. q-. Funtium. May 17.-Wheat trade firm at this day's mar ket, with a good &Leant for flue qualities, at last wen 305. Ws rates. %Vhea, liras 71. to 14/. p. r losd. Barley, 245. to 32e. per qr. Om, 17e. 26e. Peas, 32e. to 385. Beaus, to Os. Gookuano, May 16.-Tli• Wheat trade was dull bete to-day, at bat oak's prase. %Vheat, red, 366 to 445. ; white, SSC to 66.. Barley, 20e. to Ms. at., 166 to 21s. Peas, 30.. to 366 Bear, Ws. to 86e. per qr. MAIDOI.O7III, May 17.-We had very few people at market le-day, is cmasequenee of the fair last Saturday. The bal sam dose wee very laited in all gain. Wheat sold slowly, at pries of loot week, and other path also. MAXIII3IOTIIIII, May 17.-Oar market to-day was firm for good d r y Wheat, for which there wee as inquiry. Tso middling sorts bung on hand. The malting season b.lag ever, lading doing in Barley excepting for grinding, to whisk sells slowly. Fvr Beau B ar es. there is a rather better sale. Wheat, 445. to 62e. 265. to 27e. Beans, 20 18e. to 34,. Pest, 26e. to 345. NZWDORT, May 17.-The supply of Wheat was toasider able. Rather more disposition to do business enabled the 10 14 ethos to fully maintain the prices of last w Peas fa o ll nlk. as y o far. JD M. tail trade in Barley. ta, Beans ,d Wheat, 45e. 24. Barley, 315. Oats, 19e. Bess, 34a. 84. Peas, 295. PLYIIOI7TH, May 17.-Tke Wheat tr ade was quiet this 2 1 : aoenng, and Oat few sales ware male. Prices unchanged. Mach rain has Wm in the last 48 hours, and the weather is toe very eold aid wisterias. Imporm this week 99 4 ROYSTON. May 16.-A slight improvement is the Wheat 32111 trade wee observable; hence, in some instances, rather 0010 Ito mosey was given. Wheat, 255. to 325. per load. Barley, 10 to 335. per qr. Oas, lfs. to 225. 3535. ffro ca vox-on-less, May 16.-We bad a small sup haleof .1 What at oar market this morass, for which a pod 23 was experienced, at an gayeties of le. per qr. on the H of to this (ley week. The ar ri vals coastwise are to a pod South country and foreign samples were in demand, at aa- So sailer improvement. Iu Barley no alteration. Oats in fair E 4. request, at lest week's rates, Beans and Peas t i ther dearer. 10 gl In other articles no cheap. The following are the pekes : British : Wheat, per qr., of 631 b. to the bushel, Darbaa oi; sad Yorkshire, red, 445. to 60a.; white, 666 to 645. ; south country, red, 48a. to 496.; white, 616. to 63e.; Se quarter, 14s. to 1 85 . ; potatO, 20e. to 11 Oats, feed, per 24a. Beans, new, 275. to 30e.; old, 34e. to 36e. Flora per 23 reek of 2801b5., fine, 365. to 866.7 sepals", 395. to 10 40.. Oatmeal, per lack of 280196, Scotch, 28e. to 30s. Foreign What, per qr. of 631bs. to the bushel, n Rostock, Wismar, and Stralsund, 48s. to 606 Hamburg !ti and Stettin, 475. to 48s. ; Holstein and Danish, 475. to 48e. rs ji Barley, grinding, per imp. qr., 2'2 .. to 24e. Oats, Dutch and at Friesland. 17e. to Ws. Peas, boiling, 30e. to 32.5. ; gentling, a 26e. to 28e. Itp, 25e t• 265. Clover Seed, red, per cwt., n 34.. to 495 ; white. 36.. to 44e. 11 Ilisztoom, Kay 17.-The trade for Wheat hes rather 11 1 , proved to-day. Tee supply was short and the beet prime 1 5 made was 606 per qr. - The average this week is 62e. Best to romp of Barley ars in demand, without alteration ia mdse. Beans are Is. per qr. dearer. 44 100 Wouantovom, May 16 -The supply o f all kinds of grain ao ia the mark. .t to-day was anal. Wheat, 18s. to 22e, 6d per is babel. Barley, 10.. 6d. to 12s. Oats, 7s. to fle. 64. Bat Ito Fleur, per stone, 2e. 3d. 1 0 1 23 WATLITORD, May 16.-Our supplies, both of home-grown 20 std foreign gran, stilt coutinua What ; nomithataading tt this, our market is toy mach depressed for eves; article in 20 the trade except Indian Coen, which sells readily at fall 11 prima 126 20 EDI:4IVMM, May 16.-Tbe supply o f Wheat from the HI feranis this morning, although small, rather exceeded that too et. last week. Choice simples sold readily at fully last day's rates, rates, but much of the secondary sad interior remained , 1 remold, although offered at a decline of 1.. per qr. Foreign Wheat is firm, and there was again to-day a steady retail ssil demand, at the canton prices of this day week. Barley to was awn inquired for, and fully maintained previous rate" 1021 05 Oats*" supply was not large, but the all. was slow, at a ad decline of 64. per qr. Beans dull, but Pees meet an in- 12i proved demand, and are 6d. to Is. oar qr. vance. Wheat, ' 3 " 0 " top, 626.; average, 465. 41. Barley, tap, 30 6 • average, 60 275. 104. Oats, top, 225. ; average, 19.. 6d. Beans, top, Ist 335. ; average, 295.34. at. Onasoow, May 16.-After a long continuance of cold aad uagesdal weather, we have had some impious rain bat the 50 anal has spit become saterly. Yin Onagemouth, coast- wise, aboat 2,200 qrs. Batley and 6,900 qrs. Oats have 20 some to hand, and from abroad 650 qrs. Wheat, 680 qrs. Sy Barley, add 1,970 sack. Flour, the latter from France, have so unrituted the arrivals since the date of oar last repot*. The Dac e bus been quiet, but steady, daring the week, with go. the exception of 0 its, which have been offered rather n cheater, the supply of Scotch continuing to be liberal. Oar * market this mon th s was thinly attended, and the demand 1 .! for Wheat and Flier wag limited to retail buyers, at pm ri viola prices. Oats were held rather more firmly than daring 40 the week, and we repatlast quotations as well as for Oatmeal. leg Little Barley offering, and good malting 'qualities inquired IS for. Beans and Peas met a fair sale at former rates. The following an oar quotatations Wheat, per 2401 b.„. English, white, new, 215. Od. to 236. 64. ' • red, old, 235. Od. to 23e. 61 . ; new , 21.. 64. to 225. 6d. ; Sc otch, white, 10e old, 235. 04. to 245. Od. • saw, Me 04. to 225. 64.; Irish, red aad white, sew, 216.0.1: to 22e. Od. • Duthie, old, 246. Od. to 11 26.. 04.; new, 2 3 5. 64 . to 24 a. 6d.: Porneranian,eld, 236 Od. to ! 1 „ s 21a. Od. ; new, 21 a. 6 i. to 225. 6.1. • ' Daniels, old. 225. Od, to G 23e. 04.; new, 20s. 01 . to 22e . O d. ; Odessa, soft, old, 20s. 6d. go to 21s. 6d. 6 4 C an adiaa, 21e. 6d. to 225. Od. ; United la Stator, 21s. to 225. 04. Barley, par 3201ba., Tier. wick and Scotch, new, 19e. Od. to 20.. Od.; Irish. new, L l l 17s. Od. to 18s. ' • foreign, tree Powieniniaa, &c., old, 18e. Od. to 19e. 91.; Danish, 17.. 91. to 18s. Od. Oats, pa 2611b5., 5s Berwick and Scotch , new , 16a. Od. to 166 ad. ; 12 Wexford, site., sew, 15e. 3d. to 16s. 6d. ; Limerick, &noisy, 16,. 03. to 17e. Od. ; extra, prepared, old, 17a. 6d. ; foreign, Rua., old. old. 15s. 6d. to 166. 0.1. Danish, old, 14s. 6d. to 16s. 0.1.; Beans, foreign per 4 imp. bush., old, 14s. 6d. to 15e. • new, 145. 0.1 to 15; Od. ; Irish, 2601 b., new, CIEs., bt Egyptian, per 28011 m., old, 14s. 6d. to 15s. Od. Peas, white, old, 156. ffl. to 166. ; grey, 155. to ltis. dd. Flour, 86 par 2801 be., English, superfine, old. 35e. OA. to 36.. Od.; 10 Irish, 345. to 355 . ; fine, old, 335. to 34e. ; extra choice qua- 1 ! lines, 366. .04. to Coateerican, per barrel, sweet, old, sy 240. to sca 6d.; , sweet, 24e. to 245. 6d. ; sour, ta 245. Oatmeal, per 2 801 a ., Irish , c ommon cut, 275. 6d. to 286 6d. Indian Corn, per 2801 be., 18e. 6d. to 19s. 22 DANTZIO, May I'l.-Sines the Bth inst. only 100 lasts of 30 Wheat have been sod ; fine mixed, 611 b. to 621 b., at 395. ; mired Upper Polish, 621 b. to 631 b ., 40a. 6d. 1,000 lasts 13 more have pissed our frostier from Poland ; from the Prue- ~ lien provisoes supplies:have nearly ceased. Yesterday two .: 1 Dutch vessels with cargoes, and to-day two British, have i s " entered ear port. One of the latter under charter from up Ottawa to a neighbour, who, we understand, will load her, the captain not having seen a Danish blockading ship, el and feeling himself justified is proceeding according to char- . 11 . ter. All the British, as wall es some Dutch vessels, have tailed with their cargoes unmolested; and for the Dutch is 10 prowess of discharging and loading, the term for going oat to has bees extended to the 18th inst. The names of all these 10 veseels have been advised to the commander of the Danish 10 ship by the respective consuls. io CATTLE, &c. BMITSTIBLD, Tlco o' Clock. 12 The supply of Beasts is larger, but there ii not so much in- MI muse as was expected ; the trade is very dull, and a reduc- $3 ties of fully 2d. per 81os. is submitted to. The advance in Sli prise of Sheep en Monday last has broug ht to market a to urger Inaba than we have had for a long period, muse- 10 gently prima have receded comiderably, and Kraal remain M %amid. The same muse has operated prejudicially on the ID Utah Wade, and 6e. is quite an extreme quo nation for the most selling qualities. We have an alreadant supply of Calves. A great many foreignen and middling kinds make low prices, and te. dd. le quite the outside for :be very animist. From Onessay and Holland 30 we have 31 Beasts, 210 Sheep, and 206 Olives from Scot- 33 land, 200 Beasts ; and 130 Mil& Cows fro m the Home 13 Counties. 12 tar new of eta a A. a 4. Par Wes et IDA a. A. ;$ Lea Pews. lierdards 3 4 2 8 Did Dm. L Ht-bda. 61;. 3 10 6 3 1 Dos lbort.banse_ 323 I DM Lawman. 3 4 tint. al Issoc 2 6 210 De. On Own; ...... 3 2 3 344 6 Dm and runt analln 32 3 1 71 Ilion 4044 Dia ia. Mora 0 8 3 0 bid Dr. Hall4seis 4 0 4 4 r 36 Inane at mortal. 1.038 ; owl lon* 10.781; CUM 412 ; xless. leo Szavan Fmn.—This fair was held as Wednesday. There 86.. was a good show of sank. Of fat Bellosks the show was sot No large but more than adequate to the demand, and ye was in ea* ;realisations as did take glom, prime Heifer Beef somewhat better worth. TM Idea of Bullocks were treat 261. to 321. per pair. With reegeot to Stern, aGo lot of 21 p wen sold for 101. IL a ghee; sOms IMO era lOW as 91. 10a. a piece ; while well mimed .Ss mod le plod at from 181. 30 to 20 guises the pair. Ns mil loom, of the 10 Steen drives in WON of end moo fa be quoted higher them *ea to TL a Peen Dom le Ham nut way leilllerent fair, mei Am pledyel • part sold were at rates unifier 28s. per wt. Q Pm mom I I There were a number of Caws and Csnes,lsatwilik likewise 90 met • dull fair, the balms dose in this way being at almut r, psi market quotasbas. 20 Bantinnau, M e a t y 14.—We had noisy one of the meet 20 cro wded markets Sheep we have ever witnessed. TM 90 Misnames of Myers from Manchester es well as other 20 quarters wag good, sad Manchester market being brisk lost r o week, they bought freely. Never was a better or quicker trade in Ell sep witnessed pry wag sold up. 30 Beet was dull dole bat last ewere maintained. Beef, ss. 6d. to 65. , per et. w ek's ; Mutton, 4td. to 6d. per lb. Beasts, 397 ; Sheep. 10,890. ilm.roan, May 16.—We had a very good show of Beasts at 'market, and, far the season, quality yory good. • large attendance of banes caused a pretty With trade in both Beef end Mutton, at the full rates of hat week. Nearly everything sold up. Brousantoz, May 16.—The number of Cattle was less / 11 . Borldair.' llooo kali 609, or 161 fewer than last mar ket geed sad prima a little higher. Top prix aMS Met Besl,l • 'arrest, Os. IL le es. Od • We fie. 6d. to to. per 4 iii done. • pretty psi alginate wee efeeted at an early bear. The camber ef Shur end Lambs this was 1,331, babe fa ems liina lest weak. DemaZ l P, sad prises, seoperei el& lot wok up i• per lb. 11 sold. Top yoke et lot MOW, N. ; servant, 601. Labe, tap, 21a.; cutest, On, sot dean le les. par look Drams, Way 14.—Tkore wen a few lasa stook sad mike Cattle at our nuke& to-day. The chew of Lt was good, both as to quantity sad quality. The best of this de- Mltaf stook brought 71. per Dutch state, clove, the iddliag, Is. U. • lot of escolleat dot Pigs were disposed of at shoat do. pre imperial stone. Oa the whole, this was a bilk arch.*, sad lies steam was cleared st sa attly boar. RAILWAYS. Two o'Cloek.—The share market is better th's morning. a d more busies es is &log. London and North Wererns are quoted 128 to 130; Midlands 68 to 70; Eastern Counties, Bto I; Great Westerns, 78 to 80. The Northern, or what are commonly called "Hudson's lines," ate likewise better. York and North Midlands losiug quoted 30 to 32. French thane are also rather better this mousing. Maim prier yesterday. Ike WAN, ago Po 1 edark. PIL Samoa RAILIVATI. 4i Mentos, Plikrawa • • ramose. HottaSHlsk Hostas. a Fast. Jun— Barks sail Mots fates; 1711 to I% Po• 3 41 db. Wars , per NM) 10 dirdribib d t• Jerslissoelerills witb a rearralso 10 DI. IlithOla SEMI& 16 ibm.,140., aad bet le 11181477411;„ sad Dad! oft dry vaid. at wit 10 De. Misememerm* b BllllllMiled. 20 Er et =MA* ..., Da. A Mare - i DD. 7n• ?mam ' « 30 is sod Ilaisbeed 13 Dr. Prelleverse ..1, 374 Dais* Ilibr Jure . SS Dr Amiss ird L.* 6 IlerMilltri 1 Z.& B.) • Da*Lrapper a Pr* 0 lbalersOmatios 10 Do, New Ora 6 ytt 111 Do. Frt., S per et. Nal 111 Do. do. 30 Do. N. It b. I per cest. 43 Do. ew 124 dere* lt Val is, Mr aste &B. se.) 324 Do. elms C. ditto . 0.4 - 10 Da, Seti um =allp. 13 bet 114 11 Do. do. are * Do. 6 par et. Pt** ria 33 Ear Lincolnshire . SO Easier/hand Olseiow.. 20 Do.; shares . 24 &Mee, Tem% 'a Drib: 20 . rest Nortbars 124 Da 4 rues, A,DlMend 74 Dal rare. B, 6pa 24 Do. Works 43 r rest aortbsee sad W re (Ireland) 100 . net Nort h et 32 Do. New, t4O 30 Do. Now, E3O 14 Do. New. SIS 100 a rest rester 10 Ds. 13 Do. New, /17 30 Mel sad Sal* 134 Do. f stares 30 Laramie mad Oullste 103 Do. Thirds 5$ Larearire sad . T • 17 4 Da weer IS Sr Ds. Da az • • 71drde . $ D Do. o.New .beret.) 114. War *di* Oros 1 4 211 Do. *Mem sid Wyre Do. 11 ibare er atk.. Leeds * Leader* Mink 134 Lorre sr! lArewall Leeds% arlsbrikk boar 11 Do. soMarlied 3 pee et. Q`OriL.Ml 4 110 Da p rid e 11 per dO6 Da Do.ralleramComert par ear, 11122 Do. New tigrar.6p.Ct. w larks sad Ocesswite 111 Do. PteiMMIIII IN wills s sordoii:esin 7 Da re. New 4 sieves D 711110 I D. 416 8111M..1. - milL( * e; SO Lad= At IlsallaWsetsre 424 Da Sew, 14 Do. New, /1411 tq mires _ I Do. New, 11411, prerr ame 7 p. s 6. m 44 Membeeser, Idelesk IS Do. u rs , :D re. 13 Do. am% A Do., /10 IML web lbs. „ 10 Do. 30 Do treat Ortzeby ard NI tie IS 14 104 ll It 4,`:: 2 i U 21 d Pm ls. 111 02d i% 6U. 1 1 1 1 27 ! 2 q6 db. ti lbaal 14_ ?2, 121 14 32 30 4UO 711 I I 2 tipm. Pou I die. i P• 6 1.2 21. II 1$ 1 psi 17 13 dls. 17 IS dia. 1$ 12 di.. lµ 161 gf die. pm. 27 . 2Eti at iie 3 4 dis. 1 4 idis. 91 11 4 II 1 db. 14 db. _l3 11 db. 288 49 51 pl. 84 53 pe. IS 20 1111. 76 SO SS 40 68 6 dia. 15 16 4,4 4 die. 183 92 44 46 7 si Pm. 45 8 30 da. par 29 M 4 II 13 dia. 74 tll6. di& 1 di& 114 I 2 pm. 6 se la 4 5 pm. 04 96 90 22 SO 26 dim 41 4 1 66+ 37 • 1 61 SS $1 U 1 21 9 .2291 ii 15 ?, y,.. 4 4 33 33 ii ii di& 14 14 41a. II 14 Ms. I 1 rm. Se 8 dii. 34 88 I 7 di& 9 10 101 4I 11} St 29 Ms. Is 11 db. • 7 db. 17 01.16: - . . „ ... .. 101 D 64 Se. • • • SD Do. adasiiTh Sad : lb IS eill /Sidi .. 41 D D .. ftwSw sad too leibal 23 Ds SO iTisiiii ..: ... oo Do. lallwillalMl awl .- [OO DA P Bibb 6 et bb 13 DO. New : S2O ... 20 Do. Guam. 3 per writ 3 Ds Gueres3l per Gist. it 1 ' tit L as = ::: ::: :: 1 6 Do. ... 2 17 leilbUiPardildre ... - 60 . WarenVir, sad 1101M65i d..6 = 71 . 13 and 34 loplom olailliOttlii .. is U 1011ead 11 BliSibir ' $ LIN My si.. 16 flosi owl el ooii soto; 1e Do. WNW; _ _ 1 Do. New... . .. 10 Do. 6 . U Sid. Fa .. U Ds Pisitesee ..• ... 7i both Btoaoldielro ... .. in bath Festers ... .. 21 Do. No. 1 ~. _ 127 Do. No. 2 ... _ _ 30 N 3 ... _ ... io Do. Do. No. o. 10 Do. No. 4=r 36 ebb Wake 6 South Tretddre, Boiii6- ....LA ST sad Obis .. .. arid 13 4 711:717.,kor.D 1Wa r tu ngse. p.et. 6 Yob ci Death 20 Wsterfaid sad liilki6i... 30 Weer Vibe. 6 wet suer. $ Do. do. d 0.... .. 134 Do. do. d 0... .- 13 Dtwdow, babes k Booth Water.. 46 Wil; Scelweest, : bdilley . . S) Tert.l4 l3343 tweZali berwiii 00 Ds raw. (Tort 6 Ilevialbi er i ge . s . - 11 De. GAS. au Prebeale 30 Telt sad Mak laid. 21 Do. Svelbrowes Do. Zeit k West 13dbr1 IS 14 dia. 13 14 dia. 0 Si BSI SIL lie 10e dia. ea 43 1224 123 e 34 37 II 12 dia. 41 13 13 1 I: II 5 db. 111 - 17 23 i 2) le. pm. 12 14 1 P'l I f pm. 2 1 din. I i ia. 1 1 15 24 di& 10 !! ii 3 313 13 14 19 11 41 di& 12 11 di*. 11 db. II 2 I se sm.. Se S_ gs. 4 $ 4 5 pm. ni loi N I db. 4 34 dis. 14 sl__ K_4 ma. /taw Prim An. I 22919.1191122 (Ws Itali2a mg Aselsbal Laii;s . .. 91 sal - 29 et lams ( 74 Ovid' ... $ labia Pailreals 109 De. da. ... .. lo tilems Ng 1.1299 ... .. 11 Nardi= 9t/Woos ... 7 ad 19919 a ... SO rado orledems .. 30 Plabsolaum -. .. 1• 11) Pali mei IMBeibarg .. inim ... .. 1111 erlllsura ... ... 11 ari192999 ... ... 7 Ti zoo Is IN V} i l f Nisr i= es. . i Pi. 0 i a t *! is ill !f) i• Isi s 4116 d 4 71 71db. LIVERPOOL. Mar 17. groas-11xcarAiras.—The siadol sal =Wu ea 17111- vss4 4.44414.-4.441441dre sad Taldift 41111 dim, 4. 41 114. 44. —Lambs mg Mu& Walsni. 191 7 Now triares o t ax cllis. 9d. p.-14114 adarraic.), a. 3 17 efilk1:4110 He Ili a. 1 1 L-11•411Mslets Dorm 11 .,••• . f ims. es o.q L, II& 14s. 44.—Tads, 11414. mil (Xs go ad 191 70, 411.0-1444 and Mr& 111111444. Mk. MANCHESTER, May 17. Booatazawnxn.—Markitt irni, ',Woad nine dims in riot& Annan o f Winer does =AIL BIRILINGHAM, May 17. Stoci-licrzkxos —Us sales 0,447 lave besa—Ciwiter tadizZat l ii; luelaad bow MM. 11 db. ; lberibbof owl 88. dd. db. ; Invopdabs Usk" M. N. LIMOS, May W. bromddios.—Ther• ins a hk UIMrM el begoodeml la Se Woe dlt low lormilellesk flame garselly di So Oka 10A.werat. ebb isboodad. ft. W. Lablidalkdah Ilk imam Id db.; Soh Wabesk Red.; 101.1111111" THE FXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 18, 1849. IMPERIAL P. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TIMSDAT, MAY 17. The firsaisti took the chair ot 4 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. THIRD READING S.—Edinbureft and Glasgow Rail way end &li n e ag e in n Gamow Union Canal (ameleama tion or ask or lease of the Union C an to the Railway Company); London Gas Light Company (meadows% of sot) ; Staffordshire Potteries Waterworks (omission and amendment of act) ; Bills. LORDS' AMENDMENTS CONSIDERED.— Marsh land Sates* and Fen (equalisation of drsinage rates and repair of roads) ; Whitehaven Waterworks ; PUBLIC BUSINESS. PETITIONS PRESENTED. CArrreL Pus b a thesnrs.— By Mr. BROTHERTON, frees Manchester, abolition of capital punishmests. CSARITABLZ Tauzin BILL.—. By Mr. SPOONER, from the trustees of Rusty school, praying to be exempted from amain provisions is the Charitable Trusts Bal. REGISTRATION OF FIETNS, DISTIL, AND 'LASZLO'S (Inzwin).—By Mr. GROGAN, for .zteadiag this prin ciple to Ireland. EIMITHFUILD MARILZT:EILL.—BT Mr. OSBORNE, from graziers and butchers connected with Smithfield Market, praying to be board by counsel against this bill. EXTENSION or TES 817171 AGE.—By Mr. OSBORNE , from metals working clams. ; Mr. COBDEN, on behalf of Mr. Hew,' from Ors at Vermouth ( 693 signature.), Lou den (19) Backe-ha ll Elisio, (8) ; Ralston, Berwickshire (133); Larkin, Stirling (102) ; Bainford (48), Dysart, Whititury (21) ; cabinet snakies t Edinburgh (38), for the ex tension of, and for manhood su ffrage. Bain Boum—By Mr. COBDEN, from inhabitants of Dewsbury, Yorkshire ; Mr. PETO, from Lowestoft, for the obeli ion of licensee to beer-houses. CRITICS Paornarv.—By. Lord H. VANE, from Bar nard Cutts, against the nusappropriation of church pro- Pity- MALT Tex —By Mr. COBDEN, on behalf of Mr. Hume, host 13 parishes in the hundred of Dim, Norfolk, f or the repeal of the malt tax. Vozencr EIIIONATION.—By Mr. AOLIONBY, from the New Zealand Company, ageism convict emigration. PAILLLUSINTANT AND FinanciAL RIFORII. AND EQUALISATION or Taxarion.—By Sir J . WALIISLEY, from the parish of Kennington, Mulolesex ; Mr. Alderman RUMPRERY, from 11.,uthwark ; r.PET (14), from parishes in . Norwieh, Lakanham, and Trams, in favour of these propositions. Sires Taram—By Mr. PETO, from Norwich, calling &Bastion to the extent of the Brazilian slave trade. ARBITRATION TREATIII& INSTEAD or War..—By Sir J. WALMPLEY, from Wesleyan Methodists of West Leigh, Lancashire; Mr. PETO, from Norwich, Seraffhain, and Nostahaad, in favour of this proposition. Unmet or Consmaxcn.—By Mr. PETO, from Brain tree, Emu, and .rom Noeton, Norfolk, for the repeal of the laws affecting liberty of conscience. Manalzoas BILL.—By Mr. S. WORTLEY, from Wor ley, in favour of this bill. COUNTY FINANCIAL BOARDS.—By Mr. W. BROWN, from Crouton, Wiodle, Bold, Knowsley, Widnes, and Dit to., all in Lancashire , in favour of the es t a blishment of these bomb, to be composed of poor-law guardians and Of Pit Ite° ' 42 le 10i I as 79i 9 14 111 92 lei 7 It! 104 I i 71 4 34i »4i 14 1214 lll6{ li 21 4041 14 14 magistrates. Coranoin EIMANCIIIIIMENT BILL.—By Mr. AG LION BY (2), from planes in Suffolk, and from a plans in Yotkatart, in favour of this bill. ite W si 1 I S If Ti a sow Mr. LABOUCHERE presented a petition on behaU of the Attorney-General, prayitig that the hoe. and learned c before might be enabled to appear in his legal capacity a private committee, on a bill under which land had bee* taken which had been devoted to charitable purposes. After a few words in explanation by the Arroarav- Onnuur., it was ordered that the petition be referred to the committee, and that the Attorney-General have liberty to appear before them. EASTERN COUNTIES RAI ATION.—MIL LWAY. HUDSON'S EXPLAN Mr. DIVETT presented a petition from 31 shareholdses et the Easters Counties Railway, residing in Dove— e, making certain gray *sales ;against the hoe. member fort brought up Sunder's: d, in Idsd, apaski chairman to the company, and preying the expulsion - of du ho and read by the Cl member trom the house. The petition was rk at the table. It stated that the petitioners were shareholders ill an undertaking =Sid the Eastern Counties Railway ' of which said undertaking George Hudson, a member of the Mesa & was the asinine. That the petitioners were in. and verily believed It to be true, that the mid l enge Hudson so sating in the capacity of chairman of the , seal eempany had from time to time named tai be; made I sod published a statement, purporting to be a true ac mune of the receipts and disbursements of the said eons pemy which be kaew 4 eo be false and untrue, whereby the Isismiltelders were grossly deceived and the petitioners empty minted t the petitionen therefore prayed the hones es sages inquiries to be made into the truth of those charges, sod, if they should be true, that the said George Hudson might be expelled from being a member of the home, and that the house would adopt such • course as might seem fit le prevent a continuance of such practices, whereby thou sands of subjects were daily ruined. Mr. CHARTERIS presented a petition signed by 60 shareholders of the Eastern Counties Railway. They stated that immediately after George Hudson and David Wad- IMO= became members of the house they became chair man sad deputy-chairman of the board of directors of the Eastern Counties Railway, sad that J. Bushaw was also a director, and they prayed the house to institute an inquiry bee the management of the affairs of the company. This w forwarded is him, and therefore he presented Zlitsta as he offered no opinion as to the prayer of the petition. Mr. HUDSON—I felt it my duty, although labouring under cos sientrable difficulty, to attend in my place imme diately that I received a copy of the petition which the hon. member presented. In doing so, sir, I hope I shall hays the dad thulium , of every gentleman whilst I offer to the boom sins elianatioos and explanations with reference to dm tie patties* Sir. if I had been guilty of the practices erhidi are imputed to me designedly, without sufficient essue, I might feel that I had committed an error ; but it was not an intenional error on my part. Sir, say fi rst con nexion with this company was in 1846—1 believe in October. I received • deputation, bringing • requisition, signed, at sofas length by shareholders. I refused in the Ink it steam, to take on oneself the office, bat attic some pee I did undertake it. Before that I bed se sham Y lbe aim ”ny, no interest in it whatever -ere In omegas* with it in any way whatever. My sole shiest was te endeavour. if possible, to bene fi t the shareheidoes of the company, and effect suns arrangement with the Sam projected line. Upon ' my accession to the office I devoted myself as anxiously and assiduously to the amiss u I mealy could. I believe the Seel shams it thee I raised the dividend from Bs. to 9s. Than ih hi sae albs petiolate the following pangsaph UM the dodged big b. la :mum It was math 91. without my iris of dismatinses to thaw ea sash asnmsendim I mid reasseemes ef tins Oahe tyke there ewe • Ilegree d memelaws theta would set otharslre law bees domed et; Met the Meg In. areasewas from kaoo,oool. to 10,000,0001. It so happens that the market value of the shares was higher at the time I joined them than they have ever hem sines. The petitioners state most dinnctly there wss no change of circumstances no reason why we should go from • dividend of 31 . to 91: When I state to the hose the facts, I think the home will agree with me that that is not justified by the facts ef the ease. In the Wallow ending July, 1846, the income was 114,0001. ; in the hall year end ing January, 1846, it had risen to 173,0001., being an In agua of near 60,0001. There was a justification for some I increase of dividend. Those who inspect the books my the dividend was right except as te • sum of 11,0001. As far as the dividend is concerned there is ample justification for the increase. They state all the capital of the company to bs from 9,000,0001. to 10,800,0001. That is not true. Than. pied of the company when I joined was 2,900,0001.A1iad 1,400,0001. of the North Eastern Company, which made the ethical of the company 4,300,0001. 'Then there was added In it • beaus of sae mothion which made it 5,300,0001., and thrashes the money esta•B ded since I had the' bums d priddieg ever the Board was five and a half mil. Rims. The theme when I *sod it was 245,0001. ; last yew it was 900,0001. I think the eemplslnt of the petition that the gnaw was wastefully sad extramgeally expended alb to the resod when the inseams of capital was tidy two-thirds, t he thermos el the income four then the exasemi. It has him mid In the report ef the investigative and as too ths esmomittes I would implode most dimply of its peessellap—l had rid milies, se knowbdige of what was pasime evassiam— I bed no intimation Ostia/4k sad sash amistisee wave mitho egoist me se sa individuel, sad when I called la the mem hog te show the mbar esaddloot is whisk I was pies* ding with a friend, to see the dosowesat which purpmed le be in ate handwriting, and with my =Sul out Ilest ia obiatMg sight of ths "w e sos to sm it, I wee Massa it ia the meows any other ;meth l e r i t s sedf, sad they them consented that two of the body erne into the room sad show it, on condition that I Medi ink se questions. (Hese, bear.) I don't know what the hems may think of mesh essiest, bat I am sure there that it is but fair Vitt thee taimmeue• shield he fumbled to us of the 'charges. (Hoar, hear.) We sea of the desammet la my isadwritiag. air, I totally obey they are dewed by me at all. The evidence of the sessualeat is that Ass the alterations were made they were de by the be e only charge _in the report fa that I dewed •• 'h ma of 10,0001 , that it might stand assn 0111 ant yea:. It might have erissa from the male- Ash in ;kind. The individual die* sags I Mil these marks on the sa atly paperslesseitir.l dodo. t , well his given easit withers ef ne seatradistocy hat, im my empathy, I abated it at all. But it is stated by the sessaittes, that I authedied the carrying of 116,0001. of revenue In eapitsi. I ;bave no limitation in mythic I did net authorise anything of the sett. I Sad, from looking at the working expenditure of this Ilse, the published not thews • working meridians ef 1,1261. pperr mils. The' wasersietse make it 1,1501. per Wis. The Bimaiykam b3O per seat ; the Booth Waiters, 39 ; and the esmaittee would have: the public believe, that to work the line it' would require 66 per eel. The is es wismeine sad &beard, that no person having rellweg wad an • that such an mound veva be thded the work lag of the lime. This is brought how* aolut : RogY, ale,l as • gran charge. If it wars One. I Amu mint that I had been Mimed bus rash is verse ; dish the hams will agree with ma theft the asiedlittie In the rigid,. and the swam they have midi& and she mimes they lave shown, are not sslltid N the malt 'the louse. The petitioners imbeds or broadly assert that I have dome this for the sake Of relit. That I totally defy. Let any gentleman sem* the scgieler, and they will find the registered stink when I first joined the cam ; that I have su ff ered to a large extent - that 1 still bold the stock which I held when I first joined the company. In the registry in the book you will find there has been no change in the stock. (Hear, hear) I do not know that there is any other part to call for any explanation. The accountant states distinctly that any alterations which were made he belie,' a were made by the directors, ard, therefore, the petition ought not only to be against me. I held joint responsibility with the others. I nev. r signed • cheque oa the company in my life. I merely presided over them. I endeavoured to do my duty. I may have taken too sanguine a view of the undertaking, but I am a sufferer along with the rest in am that sanguine v iew. In order that this un d er t a king might ply remu nerate the shareholders, it has been my anxious wish to force down the expenditure. I thrive myself on the hones, perfectly ready to submit to any decision which the house may adopt. lam ready to clear away . any imputed= which has been cast upon me in reference to this underuddeg. I have not designedly dens anything to advance the &arm or gave an undue value to them. At the time I joined the co mpany the whole of the locomotives were totally out f o repair. A large =mat had been expended on the improve ment of the lead, and I do not think it was unfair to charge a considerable amount of that to the revenue it being a most extraordinary state of things which then exis ted. You willsee from the report published this morning that another company has placed 150,0001. to capital. Toe chairman, instead of being blamed by the committee, is praised and extolled. I think, if the house will determine what is capital and what is revenue—what ought to go to capital and what ought to go to avenue—the directors would have no difficulty ; they would be guided by the strict law of the house. Nothing is more clinical% nothing is attended with more anxiety. I recollect a cue in which the Grand Junction charged 14,0001. for repairs ; it was taken from revenue end placed to capital.. Ido not know why one law should apply to the Eastern Counties and another to any other company. I have anxiously discharged my duty—a duty most cinema and most difficult. I leave it to the hone to deal with the petition as they may think proper. I have no ether expla nation to give than a total denial that the figures were m y handwriting, or that I altered them at all in any way on the paper. (Hear, hear.) Mr. WADDINGTON.—Sir, It h • most painful duty fee me to follow the hon. gentleman the, member ,for Sunder land. I should not have ventured to address you if I had not thought the house entitled to a short explanation from myeelf, inasmuch as I am charged with being • party to deceiving the shareholders, whereby the shareheiders have been induced to embark in hostile lines. I avail myself of this opportunity of calling the attention of the home to the fact how it is that these statements make their appearance. It is from the report of the investigation committee, and my object more particularly in rising is to claim the indulgence of the house to detail a few of the proceedings of the committee as regards myself, inasmuch as I feel the house has an interest in my character' and should not be surprised by the committee making a state ment to which I was not a pa ty. r I alluded to that on a firmer occasion in which the committee made a charge, on *hick a committee of this house was appointed. On • recent occasion, when I had an opportu nity of addressing the shareholders, they agreed to slipup the clause, and yet, on the face of much explana tion, the clause did appear in the report as emanating from the committee. Therefore I appeal to the house as to the conduct of the committee who made the report which they did, inserting that which their own body agreed should lie struck out, because it was imperfect, and I call on the house to bear in mind the evidence given before the committee, in asmuch as I bad not the slightest opportunity of correction any statement As to what has linen from the hon. mem ber for Sunderland, I believe the accountant gave it as his opinion that it was not the writing of the hon. member. The hon. member having denied it, I have nothing further to say on the subject. As to the various charges in the committee and the statement as to my liability, th ose liabili ties were not correct. I repeat that opinion now. I com plain that they did not give me an opportunity, when then made their report on this particular point, of answering dui ing the sitting of the committee. In reference to an investi gation which may take place of my conduct, I shall be extremely happy to bow to any decision of the house, feeling convinced the house will arrive at this conviction that for the last three years of my life I have devoted myself to promote the interests of the Eastern Counties Railway. If I have erred, it has been in judg ment only; and I have done everything to place the line in a sound state. Mr. HUDSON—AIIew me to add one thing which I had quite forgo•ten. (Hear.) I was merely going to show the incorrectness of the committee's report resenting the amount of money which is stated to have been carried over from re venue to capital. The committee has forgotten that the sum of 27,0001 , according to the rule which they laid down for the working of the line, is due from another company to this oompaay, and is net put in their e a r and, therefore, by the sum of 22,00 N. it is perfectly c they are wrong. It only shows the hurried way in which the committee has reported. Mr. BACISHAW—I belong to the Northern and Eastern Board, and it is se stated in the committee's report. One. third being shareholders in the Eastern Counties, there are six gentlemen sitting on the Eastern Counties Board who hold shares in this company. I am one of these ; but, u we owe no allegiance to the 60 gentlemen who have signed this petition out of 14,000 shareholders— though we owe no allegiance to these gentlemen, we owe • great deference to the opinion of this house. lam not a very young member of it, m you all linos., and if 1 were to be thought ea ble of having acted as the hon. gentlemen who composed the committee of investigation have done, I should k myself quits unfit to sit in this house at this moment. Having mentiomed that Ib , long to the Northern and Eastern board, I may mention as a vindication that the board of the Eastern Counties have had a meet ing this morning. This ease has been gone into by my hon. colleagues, and I am proud to say I have been returned unanimously by the EssternCounties board to sit again, by the self.ssme gentlemen who before sent me there. That is • sufficient jutifiration of my conduct, and I only repeat, in justice to the bon. member for Sunderland, that on the occasion of his going to Norfolk to investigate the concerns of this line in 1848, he said to me, in great agony of spirit, Bagshaw, I have been g rossly deceived in these matters." So much I am bound to say in vindication of the hon. gentleman opposite ; and at the same time there are some things about me in the committee which I shall leave untouched. I am con vinced that the gentlemen with whom I was associated have, to the best of their ability, done their ditty under the pecu liar circumstances in which they found themselves placed. The petitions were then brought up and laid on the table. COPYHOLD BILL. Mr. HEATHCOTE wished to learn from the hon. mem. brr for Cockermouth, whether it was his intention to pro ceed with the Copyhold Bill on Wednesday nest (the Derby day). Mr. AGLIONBY said it certainly was his intention to bring on the bill on Wednesday next, if possible. He did not know whether there would be a house, but should do everything in his power to make one. BRITISH SUBJECTS ABROAD. Mr. ANSTEY had intended to ask the noble lord, the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, a question, but not seeing that noble lord fa his place, would put it to the noble lord at the head of the govern ment. It was, whether he would lay on the table of the h:tiss the copy of a letter of the 22nd November, 1848, addressed by under secretary Lord Eddie bury to Mrs. Castellari, stating that an E n glishwoman by her marriage with a foreigner adopts the nationality of her husband, and even after widowhood loses all claim by right to the assistance of her Majesty's Consul in the place where her husband died, in recovering or ascertaining the state of his property there:—And whether he would alio lay on the table the thstrectiou which determine the conduct of her Majesty's consuls in such mean Lord J. RUSSELL ri quested the hon. and learned mem ber to repeat his question when the noble lord, the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, was present. NEW ZEALAND. Mr. AGLIONBY having read, in a low tone, an extract from a New Zealand paper, relative to c onvict immigration, and announcing the meet in g of a legislative council, aske d the Under Secretary for the Colonies whether any circular or other despatch had been addressed to, or any de spatch received from the governor of New Zealand, on the subject of convicti mmigra tion, other than those already presented to the house ; and, also, whether any information hal been Teethed on the subject of a legislative council being held at Wellington, for the southern province. tch had been received Yr. HAWES said that no despot from the governor of New Zealand, relative to the esta blishment of a legislative council, although he had, through private sources, received sufficient confirmation of the fact. wise regard to circulars or despatches, he found that one h a d b ea rs received in 1843, and others relative to Parker's voyage. Thera was also one ef remit date from the go vernment engineer , asking for convict labour for the go- vernment works. There would be no objection to lay all en the table. AFFAIRS OF CANADA. Mr. GLADSTONE said that among the papers whir:hank on the previous day, been given to the house, relative le Canadian affairs, there were two, numbered 18 and 26, sae being an act of the Canadian legislature relative to rebellion losses, and the other a communication to the executive em the same subject, both of which, it appeared, had been sent home without any covering, letter, or despatch. He wished to know whether each was the fact, and also whether any farther information relative to former proceedings respecting these rebellion losses would be produced. Mr. HAWES mid *at all the documents in the posses aim of the Oeteekbalhas bad bees laid before parliament. Is einem to Mr. AAIUN the hon. member further said that he /Mew Whig of soy pirate letters having beta received. CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. Mr. BRIGHT wished to know from the hon. Under deeretary for the Colonies whether there was ally difference is the laws inflicting capital punishment between the metber-eountry and the colonies ? He bad seen by the Sydney that a criminal named M'Kee hid been mega rape , an offence which wa g of eapitally penithed England. capital in • HAWES said that the question had already been enemeried. The offence remained New South Woks sad Van Diemen's bad been remitted here. land, although the capital punish- LAND IMPROVEMENT AND DRAINAGE (IRELAND) BILL. This bill was read a third time and pared. POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. Os the order of the day for the second reading of this bill WWI lend, M. GROGAN rose to address the house; but the bon el anavanstion rendered his observations almost inaudible. We saleaSsed him to express hit fist that the bill, unless ma* derably altered, would not at all answer the purpose intended. A committee had been appointed to inquire into the matter, sad, singular enough to say, the government had proceeded to intrieluce legislative enactments without waiting for their report. The Indies features of this bill embodied the stag pintoes of the ministerial members of the committee, wholly regardless of the opinions of those who were most conversant with the subject. The enactment of a 6s. maxi mum rate, to be followed by one of 75., on the whole union would, he feared, be an encouragement to insolvent districts to strike the former rate at once in order to beteg in the whole union. This he hoped would bus prevented in any amendment piths law. Mr. P. WHOPS took the principle of this bill to be the establishment of • maximum rate, so far es that went, upon the electoral division; to spreading the excess, when it rose above • certain sum, over the union, he did not object, be lieving that the union rate on the whole, both for Ireland and England, was the best foam that could be adopted. All objections might be removed by fixing the maxi mum so high, that it would be brought into operation. Of the oche r provisions of the bill he generally approved. There were, however,. many omissions ; one was, that there was no improvement in the way of securing that which the bill professed to have for in object—vie., the more effectual relief et the destitute poor in Ireland. The bill was confined, as far as peal', to workhouse relief ; bat, to reconcile work house relief with pieeiples of humanity, it must be admi nistered in well regulated workhouses ; but there were few workhouses in Ireland at present which could claim that character. (Hear, hear.) In some of them the destru of life now going on was most alarming, and the cond ition of the paupers moth awful. In Ballinasloe workhouse they had heard that of four thousand inmates four hundred and ninety had perished within one week. At Kumar' the paupers were without any change of clothes, living and sleeping in .the filthy rags in which they had enter“. In Skibbereen six and eight persons were crowded together in one bed three and a halt feet by six feet. Was it to be wondered at that under such circumstances people preferred rather to die out of doers than to enter buildings under such regulations? (Hear, hear.) He suggested that in admi nistering the relief, a greater responsibility than now existed should be thrown upon ,ome person or another. In Rog land formerly the magistrate had the power of ordering re lief, such order being imperative. He would not say that that plan should be adopted in Ireland ; but he wished that some person should be appointed whose duty should be to give compulsory orders in oases of necessity, for it was not sufficient security that the relieving o ffi cer might be dis charged if the pauper died. (Hear, hear.) Mr. OSBORNE thought that some member of the govern ment should inform the house why this subject bad been referred to a committee up stairs, and that committee not having yet reported, the bill was brought forward at this time. Tkis appeared to him an extraordinary proceeding, because if they ware not to wait for the committee's report, what was the use of appointing a committee at all ? Why was not the bill brought in on the first day of the session ? The ninth clause of the bill which gave a man seven yeses to pay for agricultural improvements, was no bonus, and he hoped that in committee twenty-one years would be substituted. There was another point: crown and quit rents were now exempt from the poor rate altogether. They amounted to between 60,0001. and 70,0001., moat of which had been spent in ornamenting Trafalgar-npuire. He saw no reason why these lands shou'd not be subjected to rates, and the produce devoted to the relief of the destitute. The hoe. gentlemen (Mr. &rope) talked of reclaiming the waste lands. That experiment bad been already tried at Mount Mallory and failed. It was merely deluding the Irish people to suppose that they could support the poverty of Ireland by any such system of poor law as now existed, or by any peddung change such as that now proposed. Lord C. HAMILTON complained of an omission in the bill of all reference to the question of settlement, and called upon the government to take that most important subject into their consideration, and to legislate upon it while the present measure was passing through committee. Mr. CALLAGHAN did not rise to offer any opposition to the bill, but merely to make a suggestion, which he had been asked to do by several individuals who felt themselves aggrieved. It would be in the recollection of the house, that the former per-law bill exempted the occupiers of crown property in Ireland from the payment of poor rates ; but he humbly submitted that this exempt ion should now be done away with, aad ht the occpiers in question should be made to contribu t te a their fair proportion towards the relief of distress. Colonel DUNNE maid the hon. member for Middlesex had asked why the present bill should be pressed through the house while there was a cemmittee sitting up stairs to in quire into the operation of the poor law in Ireland. He (Cal. Dunne) could answer the question. He believed that that committee would not submit a report, and that they were doing nothing. It was composed, amongst others, of the hon. member for Manchester (Mr. Bright), who, be was convinced, would do mischief—(laughter)—and who had the committee completely under his In fl uence. lie should not oppose the second reading of the present bill, because it contained several provisions of which he highly ap , but he was convinced that in itself it would be per fectlyd futile. Mr. H. HERBERT speed in the opinion expressed by other hoc. members, that the details of the present bill ought to be discussed at a future stage. If it were not for the awful state in which Ireland was placed, with the poor law utterly breaking down in that country, he should cer tainly divide the house upon the second reading, believii.g that the principle now involved was of a dangerous and mis chievous character. But he should not throw any obstacle in the way at preseut, hupieg that sonic amendments would be made in committee to render the bill, what it was not at present, beneficial. The principle of a union rate was the main principle of the measure. It was the most important principle of the poor law, and one that ought to be brought forward on its own merits, and not in a roundabout manner. The way in which it was now sought to be established afforded ground for the com plaint so often urged by the Irish members, that they wete not afforded a tangible argument with which to grapple. Many hon. members seemed willing to advocate %anon rating on its own merits; but he wished that any one of them would urge it as applicable to both England and Ire land, and let it be fully and fairly discussed. lie believed that the attempt they were now making would be fruitlees—that it would drag down those portions of the country which could now maintain them selves to the level of the insolvent, and that this time twelve months, matters would be muse in the sister country than they were at present. (Hear) Why should the Irish members be met with • derisive smile when they touched the subject of the area of taxation, particularly when they firmly believed that the largeness of the area was the great cause of the evils of Ireland ? The average of the electoral divisions over the whole of d e amounted to 986,300 acres of 4,7361. in value ; and the only part of the country in which there was even an approximation to the English area, was Ulster. How was it that that which was good for England, would ter a equally good for Ireland also ? The largeness of the area had virtually destroyed all energy in several places. This was not an unadvised as sertion. He had received, two days before, an account of the state of the workhouse in his owe union. The numbers in that house on the Bth of May were 3,232. Houses built for domestic, .commercial, and other purposes were obliged to be turned into common receptacles for the poor. Even the house of God had been entered by them. The day be fore he left home the priest appeared before the board of guardians at the request of the Roman catholic bishop, and stated that in consequence of the unruly conduct of the poor creatures, it was impossible that the service of religion could be proceeded with, and that he should be obliged to prevent them from coming to the chapel. The board of guardians of his own union had for warded a memorial in 1847, which had not been attended to, and the consequence was that there were 13,000 persons in the union now receiving relief. He did not say that any alteration of the: w would have prevented peat distre.s. He did not charghe government with having caused the • famine ; but he did allege, that if the memorial had been attended to the landed proprietor would have been doing his duty at the present moment, instead of being sunk in de spair; and that the hundreds who were now in the work house, eating the daily dole which was barely suf fi cient to sustain a miserable existence, would be honestly earning the bread of industry by the sweat of their brow. Strong language of this nature was justified when he saw bon. ' gentlemen opposite listening to vague suggestions and theorising about the disturbance of • - labour market which did not exist. (Hear, hear.) The Tr lee union was hope lessly bankrupt. In 1847 the board of guardians there sailed upon the Poor Law Commissioners precisely in the same way to exercise their power under the act, and to have the electoral divbioas reduced. The electoral divisions of Tralee averaged 26,000 acres, and they stated that if their request were acceded to they would endeavour to meet the wide. Their language now was, that unless money was out to them they could neither relieve nor check the distress existing in that once prosperous union. He, there fore, charged the government with having changed the language of honest self-dependence into that of hopelees beggary, which now had no resource but the imperial ex chequer. (Hear.) Sir W. SOMERVILLE said, that although most of the hon. gentlemen who addressed the house had admitted that those matters of detail would be better considered in com mittee, yet, at the same time, it was not to be expected that • measure of this kind could be proposed to the house with out exciting considerable diemnsion. The hon. member for Middlesex had been rather inconsistent in bringing his charge spinet the government. Hs (Sir W. Somerville) was told, when he had the honour of proposing the appointment of • committee to consider the Irish poor-law, that it was the duty of the go vernment to come forward and propose manures—to take upon themselves that responsibility at once, and not to wait for the report of the committee. (Hear.) Considering what had taken place in the last melon, he thought the govern meat would have been guilt of a breach of faith, and of the distinct understanding which had been entered into, if they had not at the commencement of the present session proposed that committee. The committee bad now been sitting a very long time, and if the government had waited for their report, it would have been said that, at the conclusion of the session they had come forward with theirmeesure when hon. members had no opportunity of discussing it in detail. His hon. friend who spoke last accused him of not answer ing the question why the area of taxation in Ireland should not be reduced to the extent of that in England. He had no recollection of his having put that question to hint He had certainly asked hint why the request of the Killarney board of guardians to reduce the areaof taxation had not been conceded, and on two or three occasions his hon. friend proceeded to:do what he had now done—charge the government with theresponsibility of having interfered with the prosperity of that union. His hon. friend seemed to be of opinion that the poor law ousesissiocers of Ireland were bound to give their meant to any proposal of that kind when memorialised 'by the union or county so to do. There was no doubt that the commiesionere were em powered to do so by acts of parliament; but those acts also vested in them the discretion of refusal ; and on and cc 'anion alluded to by his boa. hiend be thought they h a d exercised a wise discretion in refusing to give effect to % I Daemons]. It wee a very serious thing for an e lenitive body such as the! poor law commissioners to make an alte " which would take taxation off one set of men and place it on another. He bad always been of opinion that if any pit project should be carried into effect it should be by a een. mission specially appointed for the purpose. He wild eg but feel that if the request in the memorial were UMW the cue collector would have been received with gram die !ideation by three on whom the additional burden of taxatik would be thrown. They had tried the experiment in a bu th in the county of Carlow by dividing an electoral division; bi t it gave rise to the greatest dissatisfaction on the put of th* who had to pay the increased portion of the taxiiiie. 11 1 . were even accused of unworthy motives in making ty t division—of desiring to remove a certain amount of lust* from one genUemen whom he would not name, ill it vs necessary, and place it upon soothe?. There was set* slightest foundation for that charge. He, therefore, the that it would be • a most dangerous thing for the sees miesieners to undertake to do ; and few that reason was 1 4 and not through disrespect or contempt of the memorial, ti st its request had not been conceded. --- V. SMITH maid that all the discussions which hid i yet taken place were upon omissions from the bill. g ow i s wished to make a remark upon something that wash% bill—something, too, which seemed to him to contain/ob it a novel principle. He did not approve of the clonal e st i hon. member for Middlesex; on the contrary, he tiss the course of the government on this subject been most useful, and, more than anything else, e is ,, tributed to exhibit the rotten social state of Ireland. (a te, hear.) He thought they were right in appoint* th committee in which the hon. member for Manchester* with his usual energy, made himself heard and felt; yak * thought the government would have been justly etungstg, with delay if they had postponed this bill until the eft. mittee reported. 'What he wanted to know was, when th maximum rats was exhausted, who was to contribnte th amount necessary beyond it for the relief of the poor-4, land or the consolidated fund? Seeing the hon. mesh for the county of Limerick take hie seat reminded him* the subject of emigration was omitted from this bill, eedi s thought it would be a favourable opportunity for has introduce it. ---- Lord J. RUSSELL wished to address the house enters, three points; and first as to the question just put by MHO hon. friend—namely, how, atter the maximum rap m exhausted, the poor were to be relieved. If the case g m that the poor of Ireland had been relieved by rates moms ing to 8s , 10e., or 125 in the pound, and that the em u , meat were now asking the house to supply the 1 4 1 of the excess of !that rate over 7s. by any m m from that house or by any national rate be Irece he thought the question might create serious app, Winston ; but the fact was different. The fact was the that in those unions in which the amounts of rates war from being so excessive, sums had been required from% country to supply the wanteof those unbars. If that seg o it showed that, in the abstract declaration of the law that* whole land of the unions was liable to the relief of the me there was no security that the people would be Ming, was a mistake to suppose that there was a seventy ions Present law, because the whole property of the salon ea liable. In the papers laid before parliament of th i expenditure of 60,0001. for various unions, the *Ma amount for any one union to the lst of April we co:ildectedfd, great yet, ts that frodi the dd 8,2151. to Bailin*, and he found that the last rate, tag , the second rate, for that union, dated 21st September,l9B, was • rate of 31. lid. He had desired a return to be le oished of all the rates made since the close of March, h or ha l d 2e.h had required and by it he found that while in some electoral dieisims whic been npin s rata of f house were the unions In which the rates hid bunny 35., Is. 6d., or 4s. 21. If that be so, it wee a proof theta* had no security against being called upon for aid is that* strict declaration of the law. It might be slid the the rate in then unions had not been fairly canid seal that a much larger amount might have been laid thistle., 45.; but the inspectors and other perfectly impanel est* rities hid testified that they had been collected with tle utmost severity—so far, indeed, as in many instances dm vent the cultivation of the land. He inferred from the facts, first, that, with a small amount of rata, the might be a great amount ed distress; and, stoical, that the collection of that rate to • severe nue created alarm respecting the cultivation of the Ind It appeared to him that there was no way of farthing* object of giving relief to the destitute poor then by pig some security in favour of a limit, be it how it might, ehe tber upon electoral divisions or unions, beyond which the who cultivated the land should be 'soured that they sell not be obliged to pa y further rates. (Hear, hear.) By e doing they incensed the funds of relief to the poor, sad the was the great obje ct. If there was a declaration that all th lands in Ireland should be subject to those rates, al those rates were not collected, they did not elk their object. But if they increased the va'us of property from 20,0001. to 30,0004 and had a 7e. rate spa it, they would do much better than by reducing thong of the 20,0001. to 8,0001. and getting • rate of 14s. front The view he took of it was this—that, by nuke cell certain amount of taxable property, they increased define to the relief, while they promoted the improvement and* tivation, of the land. The question still recurs d, that ohm might Leeman unions in which, after having ccl t code& sad • 2s. rate, these still would remain an amount of destitution for which those rates would not provide. If his right his friend asked him whether he would resort to a national este aid or to the consolidated fund, his answer would be, thus a general principle a rate in aid should not be enactede condoned in Ireland. Rethought it perfectly defensible it the present state of Ireland, but that it should not oe slops ed as • system. (Hear, hear.) He would not content loth further continuance of the bill by which they had e-tabliihn a rate in aid. Respecting the consolidated lund, he did not think it would be any ground for calling upon the fund to say that the 7s. rate had been found insufficient It would be much better to leave those which were still It f be relieved to such sources as they had before th e poor 10 was introduced in 1837, than to allow that any amount d taxation should constitute • claim upon the consolidated fag , The consequence of that would be that there would be great want and extravagance in the administration of relief, sal that the amount would be soon exhausted. Whereas, they retained their maximum, the amount of chi rate would be administered with economy; there Irak then be a question as to who would be entitled to relief; end many persons now receiving relief and not entitled to it, would be put off the list, and the really destitute hews better chance of relief. He therefore said at once that de posing of this measure with a maximum rate would not give the least reason or claim for imposing any naked rate ie • aid in Ireland or for making any charge upon the soma dated fund. He thought, on the other hand, that they would better provide for the effectual relief of the poor by increasing the cultivation of the land sal the amount of income derivable from the WA thereby not only affording . greater means for gine relief to the poor, but conferring a benefit on other chew of the people. On these grounds he thought the maximal rate perfectly defensible. One honourable spotless after another asked if the government were about to ea* blish a small area of taxation without defining prectholl what they meant by a large er 'small area. Then the hat member for Kerry said he really thought the governata were guilty of the troubleaand distress now prevailing in as rain unions, because the poor law commissioners had sn • agreed to a certain division of the electoral divisions. Le the lion, gentleman conceive this case, wherein is commissioners and the government might sup** that the distress would be aggravated by a de vision such as was recommended. Suppose a one proprietor were told that he was to have an electoral din* entirely to himself, and not be chargeable with the mod any other district. Ile might take one of two courses; sal the government and the commissioners could not preterite which. He might think that his land was capable d greater cultivation, and that it would be profitable to his self, and advantageous to his tenantry and labourers, to in out a large sum in labour. (Haar, hear.) Or he nth take a different course, and, teeing in this an opportunityd freeing himself from the burden of poor rates, he might de termine to get rid of the paupers on his estate, and to nab tome disbursements for the purpose, one of which won provide for them during more than six months, as the when the time came to be computed during which the, In been resident, it might appear that they had been more thus Ms months out of the electoral division. (Hear.) By thet on trivance, he would be enabled to disembarrass himself of no charge of those persons, who would become destitute lieu_ and chargeable to some other union. (Hear, hear.) hid the government adopted that particular recommended* , and had such been the consequence, they would have Men answerable for the distrees chargeable on those very divkiora. This was not a one.sided quettion; unluckily, it bed two sides. (Hear, hear.) The charge which had been font times brought by the right hon. member for Northempto against the government on this ground had been four time answered by the right hon. baronet near him (Sir W. So merville). (Hear, hear.) He conned this wss • riff important subject, and one which ought not to be waived, st some hon. gentlemen seemed to say. Some propose!! flute electoral division of 9,000 acne should be out into foe equal portions by drawing straight lines emu it; bat the operation required much greater care than the The government had appointed • commission for di purpose ; the head commissioner had made his first se port, and he was now returning to Ireland with the intent* of carrying out the recommendations of those boundary en, missioners. He would reserve any remarks on the detaile d the measure till the bill went into committee. Mr. HORSMAN considered this measure as not only the most important of the session, but perhaps the most imported that had ever been submitted to the house. He believed the government bad brought it forward with the very best le' tentions ; and he agrees with the right hon. baronet the S ecre t a ry for Ireland th, forgetting every th ing else, th e " ought to unite in securing that which was best for the pool, of Ireland, and for the country at large. (Hear, hen ) The opinions he might express, therefore, would to rather in the way of friendly criticism. The poor law in Ireland, was in reality • reconstruction ofd whole social system in that country , the well-being , existence of every class depending on a wise amendment of that law. The question was daily deepening in importance. After three years' experience of suffering and famine, trials lecidatior, properly so called, had still to be commenced. Hitherto, the measures of the legislature had only gone to aggravate misery, and to prolong,. without preserving life (Hear,' hwy.) He adhered to theopinion he had expressed the first Irish debate Milne session, that three measures were essentially necessary, thte sale of ineumbered estates -- limited liability to poor - rates--and amistance to landlords disposed to make improvements. One excellent measure the government had introduced, the bill* facilitate sales; but it would be of no use without a measure to stimulate purchased. 'The bill before the house he feared would have in opposite effect. In Ireland, regulations were near taxation. Ordnaee and they p►rts of manages areas ml kit cow fer 4 cede effe mil