The Express. — London, England, 1858-02-13 00:00:00

e take dry but, toe be bine i• di* (Base. bra) la y ladle I est use tasselseas peesuesil °ansitis ‘l.lll4.e. rid aerseatbs smo te is dr severeiga re try. 1 time of the govern eld. es Ise me M slaloming tu mt.) I.n @misled sdneageseo, ear re red serseetlest load to Are nu that is the wimp ' to slur airy es oat ob.ct re base vospeasible ronnerat at tbe aced dr use U tast ladle slioele orate so pubs ray YY rovvnted. Wee tbr Coors t on shell ans. as • president, ribbed that tbe prelim% ',renew, and obeU II op.tters ronsertint deounrinehed theta - euppeseil to pas al to ite wise admi t the president shall I lowan =mil by y shall (4tbar lave patty oe aball by tither in the civil or who shall hare re 1, and ase not cvn rn.pees that that and that they shall flora 'hall'''e out ioe that raccoon** of renewing the of sufficient oupacity that whit , . on the rthon shad wake se for the present, man apprnted foe other pt rs he Who , be useful to the muse, as the prtp. De day the fan re st adore, the mei ,ek fustian Lustiest Lad the Srcretery government vitit erttn poitedicifona, the ronsed oust the rtstarlt. We ..hell (bin in an t►e right to th• ressais's as the pensedia n wade Le lbsAai so treated. Thclo tall t emend to moon has orresee. For in bare the canna coal. In the hm ey a 1 stale will he 1 the rowird tin Isom We prnproe tetrlbininet moor** ISM. PO SS to &SA let menthers et the Ito the board. We co the tooting at Woes dal bee* t. ok.) Wit pro m the Court of • lb and. therefrom. lo C-urt D.re. - •tva ..f the • t...rs .b..cl *lt the clouent. 1..t0 nook by the I. l y thr... autbi•n wile will be loinclo th* prosiist Ara I le c.pabir of A. fur • minion shiho• istenee of • sme lt soy came mar flottilrinSr. shall be bear.) Wr think ear It*ing eauwed to "MOW port/ Nea— rw rub aro Wb or rh.inre the n I*- , • , LA• t11•-n, thaw loth peruse. (Hear. were •Itrurtal the her 11.ttery. .tat c. eatauu.s;l air - reap. 14aay mis tii• rename. sad IbM w ti who is ale Jeer beet. Bet it Ire raw th w zit= It." I have shatoi rd. en the appoist by the Governor , win atetletee to be tinter, of the local , OosereL AB or whwtt m epeeist p to ter D. we Sakai ros 'ore, ere bored the poistweat to cadet ho sattere at the • Bawd of Castrui. Lbws eaimehips as lumber of directors annewbet more ',s will add la we per- Preedest of the t hitherto there has it a sot likely that toaioteised. (ft.sr, Y 1 have already sent. The appoint ee heretofore, with I persona appueited eibtery ,liege, the lading upon their beer.) Anne tad e Y thin ono toa d& we rennet 1! r the new( a -ni -1 le leeerved 6 r the • served to t I think le Intl be 11 devolve the write the noir r barekee • rogralor saretaa oo chow will croon) Ire ths .ontlitiona al wake , or-.r if any of theft III!lrl to their dia. terse tho rr vs on oft on ehtrh they hs proposed that the awn to paid , at r sarthas shall Ito of of tbat Wawa re impeefe abort , ' go mud of dr Cope. r poet of the load sot he pad oat of s soot ridormlos odd deo now Wool aback spigot Nat dr comoot t is proposed that. d bio coated the We Board of Cas aba haat-dam eise d& %Wad dabber& Bat In tho plai- War sal ha ant t met of hosibtias, *bads all ao Thl• "MO asty Wary oho tha order t, .realty of eslhatt on the mem which to rose= 11141 to so ▪ voreoasos d lads pawl& Ow tit* tg • twormont Iwbo. di las eggodoloil wt WIWI tor dr psi- Ms of dr losolgt• mid dim ostogiolo ir Ito sooditsghwt. L 01 teem pow , Nil to diatom gach Woad% gni 11 dr ay to hoo= sa itsa MO oval Wag *dr stodtpsfi tomeo. Of ow* Oft ef the boom I lino so IN* membere b lC I tho mot sod log Wog to dr awed tho dlosolla of go. • Whidior as • tor ihs mobs VI et he I= id& se • at so Ka afty• • ay .4: THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 13, 18'8. do ad AM 1 deal be ad by *ell= b lie yeindels glen I mesellest "bee bee ea low Mo l ine Mow wits I dew leCre derma 'pain el Ile eeadley apes are peed, home poem& myself lid vs gen vesel:villb pellidepsellea la the simeme **pled* SS elle de maim le hambel. Wine I se ladtle via yowl la de year lad Idol one do leaderg mabiee dim hem dipidad dread rule SW tbe d etmrdeers,addaabortpaled,itia ea odes rimy &OM be mob; *A IBM tram tie in slop; Si the ladediedien greseamei 'Warr tais toad 4 Maim dee ibe did dep aberivr tutt the babe mak addle, a hi eamore ongr= tL t ti m bre brae aka. Bat veriverr =kit have beau t) *dm of pellamsea a tbse ins, Ira vary mask Ws- MB MS Is do dye lbdiseilsea aphis , epteiou sow tf a maim bee not mole up lb mid est ibis doable gee • ummt geed Mesa& I MN andared diet is die • dee at Ile erresery eel that the ormulay would be edy surprised If thin k w objected to this bill being i t Wed. Dot we shall no doubt be ma by propositkete leas oy.WoshoN be told Ws is mot the time, tbAtwe must wait biter mosoot, sears period, until the diffioultial are • 111.111. Why IWO= kr delay is the invariable plea set :L ai l &see we a tmoss that altich they feel they , bet which they wish to get rid am= 11171, what is the force also saumeat of AM Ins& They ..y, "Do not alter the of go wriment at a time elm Win ie mill in difficulty, whets you ben net leally gut old of the difficulty, when you have not r. rehelied eutherhy ewer part of the country." mid, "Do set tinge your government mow, because there Y fm India that to he dew which is difficult to swam i!. e, and whit h may tbeedere require mat power to atom phalt in" Now will say sets pretend to ray that the single moronism* OM bear will not be • iamb more effectual Marro _ _ _ it Imo thon tho double government! (Hear, hear.) Will , -hyz es en uo mlml tra tell me that, with a view either to rapidity ef mays& =z d respossibility to the pub. hr the by the rarponmible &d -rawn d r ire amli orown wonM not 1• • far more ra ring lielmonst for doing what I. to be doss here Ohm go omen ot cheek and eonaterehmek. the wM emememiminens and the mabeequeat eomm vaiartfa ea demplehme lenemarred by cabs from ase pert of the lowa r, swim, IF wild* a despatch that ought to so to-morow. sot lis• woe he • mouth. when it le tee Ye Is sod ? Withr soommohlio use will maw., to pi sr d tidshows• sad my dog or punt doable gesumess* b as seselui • rubbish, salsa lies at lona ea tho tooshine at Me saran ressemest of do swum wadi bs. W ill say mr essesetei with India us dr* ilk um and audio _ - , d the einepany. irk& to new peaty 11411 assitircogb . all the waves of le I* ere have aMb pert of the k hans white the was el the wens weld have ? Why,easewee le ew thee thew ladha .lei weld sot give lee time the respect to dm hog d which they wadi glee tti the awe ef th - . Chew sad Issegkee.) Well, then, I ray, Ii w e ad to the aosidee whirl m se whoa. tote le a semi mese ellsoleal weeltiaAon l irr we loch to ladle le le • mike d kid , * grower hiseare. Then we weld. bet la Isla hew le • deb ef 11111adey ; aid whet to ffie piped d lb= dhe Ida der delay f 'Why, they ON kinder le ~ewes di aloft. le ceder to re /WO 1111114•1110 la lalik able is aer id peat dill =rose sell wee yea to widow be =bum d tho babilwat bleed dash, • USW JOVOOII Male" Why, dr, dare to as awn I lamobb suildn la that orement. That we shall be told by sem dal the It eament of India to • pew weary, Wet the li. we id Canamme ahead be lisp their - how ladies air% net If me tomb the preenewast to sosa who OD tespaellie h pallowent, we doff have lodise skew web We *phis et bedew la thi hews, mad pat sonablef wow itia. Now, * lb I think that that arguable le herded moose ~baby of the toads wield plod" d la bldsh emeadlea; It Is • elloodon Via PaikawWw7 Wilethwellit. Why _ _ofin whet is there la we anwpweed el bilk hod le est humid at upaa ewe plod pleelybe delsemewilp alibi win kph& Ilk IA lib waiary amnia. indlthlek boy Mob the plied fibbing@ aosiact t Ide ad Sisk se 11 ef die beam as le wipes Oahe below pep m, or fee Os Ern woomn- Wry trtempit of party, day trills with Ma peat har•eale ot the coantry se weweeled with the eibebblosties of war Lbw airy I law km secoisera to dill Si Ow parliemiont of tile acridly sempbse Wide OWN am Boa edwielbilke widen, se mei dellehlelehip IS Is pousseed b ey owed amber of aces Ia do Aber whoweer ; sob Ink all impel to the Own d D= l ,1 mum king muff* WA het be porlimmt of /*stead Y Iwo sepdh of dialskiffre dos sake d ladia air on the Court et Diesehne. las set Aired of Wang the pudic ',to the whew ef hake ellehe. I ballowom the coetreay, *Ol be h Na i ling ad pee se lost In Tensile en Welt have Wm ff kw hr en dew, le bee aim IV,.Mepuh&ci legleed be hesolgusentof la. kw ears. wig that the wham& at this esisidey bee never tad to this laws bos to Ink if to be akar komere, owl who ma howdy and Fat rod& Ow do gorminsent of Lib , . That width Ms Mn ' Ihne well ladlo, owl so desk • pew enul be her bee of lab yore—het kW which has Mee i sa, I omen,* to say, hag bras ask* We melt of dins... we la tile sad be Geer Mom of p•lbmenst sad • l•- vim dhowdow al them~ witeW sod Is laths, I ben. re ,ha pad bepowwwwie of whisk the •bneeses beast Is the pkilembe whisk hes mow auk i ‘wee peel pad of thew improvaante be 1 en t' s melt et re ea them by debates la the houses of pee wawa end dimeemiew la the public peace. Aid, a., : e, • be fidas slam in twinging India. abr. dote pelbseenin I holm it will be a peat bane& to Ind.. I Ni, Was, ao Nowa, Wier on the snore of biarwao ef pawnege eir am the some at ametint tior .1 ihsvoe—l me se mean to be eked why we di. - I ire al Mr per the amen whirl It will be my duly to to tho house. kr, I trust that perbement wtD 1.1 0.4 pea power is net phase without earrerpradieg der • sheen tab of teen Arwood with with the mew d the heckles of 150 :r w lt mall i• of ma, Wit the goosinwent, either direct or fa • ihr.• of • vast empiee larger la "dew km the whole of Ear A baying the empire of Ramis out ef the 1.? bat le a tad that lovable great a _ . Do n 4 , ragtag gat it is the bleak. of thet we sir , il.l hold that wet Nape, sad haws is ow bads II weans§ et Mat wee asthma* of no, simply that we may mad out to India the sons at our elm • y is order to make fortunes, or that we SIMI , say we ere the sovereigns of India. That power has bow i etroded to to to caber pupas's, sad without so in, &kg particular I Wink I may my it Is the= Me vie pis of this eriiatrj, in whose Wade that to paw:, to ponew as terse they can, the the milialinannalood the civihation of that pea We Live hasty bed our awake called to sows of wk. $' lade mudded dodder. Ate we wholly Co it, • wows ? Ed we ia the erialary during en bew bed power k bilk—haw wed ow power la en- Lswedsff awl delklng the sedan hew 'elk, weed ass lb* adwo k wew ape hew kw sod wool ad these alowlew Masse hat igin d w r.pyrret to kw Ns lie are to no who We- bard of haw ? W. Naha k bees boo Mega b ow blob la ,• we eight to renumber to we lave • pest OD Imo dial bilk I sec sure that duty will bed be Mad V ire phoo the whims,* d It la he heeds d wa the idl he assowl le yedleweel he lie Mawr k whirl i b poehwalk oho oho hood to esendoe podia. atere t g l i ty slop isib the weer they me Whig. If paella , row thh tweew—Wlllo a the cue hand we shall odd le aninglk d ear power to India : while we shall sal • be per of lie wintry by reeking our position 4 lbw ewes ;ea lie ether bad we shell be better able V. 61.111111_10 dales d the zebu which it was ht. Met ae Own pals, gbh that great empire wee hie we kWh. Mew, bow) /4 4 ..11ARD1E odd bled ao Wish= in now rising es lb lam ea Oh edges; lwasse be woe sure the ' lir would hd awl =haw id the ••= koL te mar sh persewd IC, 4 = Zrbmiliolll to the poet aged id Os parr am d lades web le le Se webs If we Lbw Mow web vile. la theil whims bib emoraseb sal it was ken soo he 'Who'd id Os ablipla the woke ef proos wk. which Ire Msaide•• whitlow wow wowed would act waders to the were ef bin that he shoed wa r-- to move be mils with which he should We. It w mhim the is his dogtrot se do star of a; mod le 'mei wet tity _ • lewd et le the ?tredve merits of the deer, lily NA lb* peenmet • •Snor MB to haw teliebblie r lr e be g Ile howerer, le Wed my, Ea , r e tie der rah weed with ewe the intios• as esmittss d Il6t , be wield wet bete lime& es amps be led ▪ cesesedwg illreetwe. dot dim um Wow 'sa - oS It wee wet :the whether the peers ,rtd et b .-regime. ib wet lbe rwermeet Ihst Ibry stud • s; me d ve m elp ; eirirr dig rod dorp dr L.. '' r: tlx a k was set le i err they *NM .rtey chop la the et rwerwseet ; bet the lea yes atisity this—wee tb the mseetat • • as ands t (Bac beer.) The aside WI on= peelle mho we Amp la ; Int Odd be mho ray • " bee is the mien elbow pieeineet, rd twereerth • uip be prereed. withered meads( la Isis? IP m s ett set tremble the Woe with maw drop * awn Las lei bin metetea et the hews that the mem roverberst we thle—lbet with N owl emplote pews remits the I'veitat of the Bawd of Mabel, lbw were Vr drebeveeted le the Own of Dhewere, ttesf~htras 1• r .rtba, ef whew twelve were eletewl by we awaseray. Whelks art set IF 45 mar surds. ; bet weeM e t i r er rellese WW II= It wee wet ma e wren' thrS a h ta s govenmset at ladle whir they knew Ad ro wet waded to tb ot &hely of of wheat were t of the eastelve rye , seeset of the easelly, vim It IPS/ shisdris her that body a body o f apaing IR MI Lidpefied by the teem ? , o d d. hem) The arts Isom very edl that the m-betee, re ft yrs sods/, w whit dr Coon of Dbeetwe, r. - x to die sotolf the Traidint of the Dowd •I Ort. , Ni did ars to mg that tie esse inst g .sow, vba IN. ippeentervemel err the • esie ter arthadr mot sr NI Orr sus • beet rvi Ihr hantsilsos her =t o y • prisrup. as wank • peer et • prriderty larrwslima ► 114 to ea his mu ••••••••f&t, Arra. rem it as cheep deverwmeat of Isi le WOW/ km • body OVUM were *Wei the peter of recallleg the r • ,emeleek or Emmet stareihrty , writ as Ilp - thet tir this bill dr mortss lb, Arn des prner-gresesl yrs Is bs segistard the Ilmourimdial Yung mad that the camell et lbs go memo of a presidency should Do appoiated by the governor ? Why, whet wee the system sow r The members of the genocil were appetated by the Court of Directora. He could sat tomive that there wee anybody, looking to the plan of ' the ugh Died, who would not allow that, whether far good ea hr MI, it was a great change in the government of India, net tenni, to the home department, but in India Itself. Let Mee sok, was the premed the time to do this? The noble hod bad talked of • very erunbrous machine, which be did net Mow it was sereseary to change till great exigencies min The noble lord berm by saying he bad an complaint le mks of the Beet India Company, and he added that it ma tab is peat exigencies that he found any defi , ieney Is the operetkias ef the gomment of India. Well, who I wee eneeremble kw those delleimies f Would ministers ray where they had limn MIMI by tbs mem government of India P wee Ish le le so. Woad they say, when the sobs lord MO& thud thew of the Queen's name in India was oqtdvalsat to a groat raiMoreement of troops, would they show that there vat say menus of that kind from 81r Colin Campbell P The noble - hod said this change would be no change in India, or that the change in India would be very limited. Were her Majesty'. ministers sore, from their knowledge of India, that this change would not be looked upon with great apprehension by the Hindoos? It had always been said that the blindooe attached great importance to names, perhaps more than to quail : ties, sad when they changed the name of the Mnit, it would not De supposed in India that IT that without a wpm. The Hindoos, when they saw the great rudiment that had existed among the Christian population there, and when the speech of the noble lord was l transmitted to India, in which he said we had a duty to perform is advancing civilisation and enlightenment in India, would my it was not without a oertain object that her Ma- Josef a government had determined to change the name of the =trt there—that it would be a change in reality—that i:l n d no longer have toleration for their rehgioue rand krbeeranoe towards their prejudices, and that ors system of indulgence which they bad had would be changed. Was this a time to hazard each a change P They had had a mutiny, and it was not yet terminated ; they had to quell that mutiny, sad dry had a mill greeter task to amomplish ommiliatnig the people. While the native population wen subdued, they soot set be coshed. After the mutiny wail quelled, did they know emagh of what was required ? Were they fully informed what the heling of the ardor was? Had the home at Mr that information? No doubt Mis ts= had mom intsrmsdka than others, but he had followed the noble hid is Ms to lad out what he believed was neer my to ratan Osamdliky to India, event that he thought the Queens nom would be equivalent to a great roblitsmat of troops, and that the change in the nem of the premetnnat would give the popula- Wm a norm that we yes about to be much more Mho Y olbsdag the civilisation of the country. Was the beim la poessesion of such ample information as to le able to say what was the met measure that ought to be adopted to accomplish the end which they all deeired—the ramoratina of confidante P There was hardly a man he came ' mom who did not say to hint " Where can I learn lame thing about India; whore ma I inform myself as to what maid be the beet government I" Was the home in posasa im of each iehrtnation ea to be able to my after fhb peat Map which had recurred by the mutiny, which had =our relations very much with regard to the people. I with regard to the army—was the house in a pret ties to say they should peas this Wl at once? The noble lord maid ha had nothing te complain el the government of India; he did act =mad that bill on soy diabut charge against the posramor of ladle. He did sot propose this chums teems dm hod boy any va monagment on the part al the pond governing • ho did ant propose it booms it woo aaeeboas spoiddrenzo ' steams, nor did he mho it Maim of the go verment at the last ladle Cempamy had not tubed the issoyablo moralism Tim was ad am word as to all that ; bat the noble lord said thus wee a menhous machine, wills said booed net moot thus would loamy objectioe to Ids mmeme, let dm might be a insollog about time. What bed mooed Mr 1863 to thaw the opinions if the government ? Es hoard last night with astudsltreent, bola a umber of the prosy govern mut and hem a member of the Aberdeen prearament that tho Aberdeen government had bequest amitahattons as lo amnia, ths kill they the proposed farther, ho mid dr domoraost had prove atod thud adoption of that =t. Her Kraesty's government at that time acted ab ; theyad not state hdly Mat was their object. Thep did more that that. The First Lord of the Admheky, then the Precedent of the Board of Control, Moss mbar sad bounty he, for one, wished to render the pease hence In is the speech with which be Introduced the mortoro, dwelt upon the advantage of the check of • doable games mat, and though be loft it in the power of pertinent to make a change, he said he saw no teem why there should be • cams. If be (Mr. Bering) had known that the go.orn- mut hedtnt. dedlatisryearstomakesmmpletetraoderfrom a amble to a single government, with a council of eight amid by themselves—(hear, hear)-controlled by nobody— (beor, bger)—he should have said, if they intended to carry web a Into dent, they should do it while there more trmua~si lily la lad* and that they should have carried it btu moody to 1863, when Ms was so try= disturb -1u H. need net read the aims of the morns of that emednes. The esmilly of both booms oomph,' the mere et a greet wow at the umbers of the Abeam go ommal, Ind • FM mossy of the members d the plead geraramat. The Fist Lord af the Admiralty end ths pow rat Prookisat al the NM of Otwerol sat on that steamitten Did eery me of dm eight_ was be penmen stigma that tic Cimemmel of Ulla Yoh a our brats moldy whim a dm of ocomod it would break ham ? (Hom hear.) TM Pr deal of the Bard of Con trol woad no doubt Oft to the hew whims Ind bow all Mrs evils had Mass? The only Mama wbbl the noble UM hod pohood sat was the hammot of the Mop; but dr saatbr had bay Mord to • sateen stamilts= sod until that 110111111111161111 mds lis report It mall be lommilda to say who w really liable to censure. (Hem, hem) The right • garima would perhaps, howl w, be goad amough to stste to the boar what wore the porthairs In which his awl* had Ma aim* or hi Mich hi bendoent hands htd lisla did- Pam, and a laugh.) The Whet Lord of the Adminhy (lir C. Wood), when be bomb to the bill of 1863, rovireol the caromadans= Midi had commosi Ming the twenty yeses prodont, mad mined out the_ pogrom whir had boy mats b the Irma IMMO w ho amid did dm what bod Mwildena shies YU, or, if he weald net, ems ether by. =prvno doubt word ; sod boa k word ho am that lamosta which had boas assamikhad had mo them malissd the espectadems the right bon. pallsma had kid ant when he proposed the tonsoral of the annyWs rester. (Hear, Mar.) The rW! be= prima - as Bemiery for the Colonise (Mr. loboanbon) did net, hs ' bellened, coake u tia, at the timed whir lst ma spsablig, her the powers of the Oeart of DM las to Mt govaramit ; • short lims ago So right hos. postimy at a moscbig of 'Mimeo ammtsd with Mo dels, stobil that we bed at th fonni out that the snip way in whisk we amid gown mm Midst well was by art disnrilar t tomom dm at ell, but by Midas them he bag.) The right Ism. isa w :(l•// set Mr =aft was at pram It it goverment, but, air thasehalm the prestige of Maglag porgy Whom= to her apoa the oe&hi, hews So trendy T s = Ord toe pport the al gotrammi ' Yoh sad irithout modrol, mope the mks( of geealammh tea secretary of state end to ma aft emstmF, war a maxi , In that house. (Hay her The right tight 1 %id in the of as esiet sz ehemeleme that would justify the ; bet it he (Sr. Bartag) found it a record of • dam a ilownrosily ,la hear)—a hiskay dm bndllsin and (chars ktOxy of migamommit and hot of asimah•— (eksa ra" : hidmy at tatomottos ilinaddlootion w the put of the dash, gni an imam et debt ea the pert of the weather country—CUM china)'— ml lb* was a star of things which the noble id would bye ray them limeade( • deal& swami (Ray My) It alight be said that damp wow net new as they mg b leo—oast now , no peaty hip Mimed into the smingsmede he the govern - mot of the Munn -, that, to flay la the Moths the eight ma woo gimps in the right MY (Her , bear.) been on this Mr might Maw courdssa with dr not of oar pomamiees , br he boligrad that in as odor ar ra woe mune* math rivaled to moody to the soda den of Foy. (Obsors) There my 'lna wawa d Lord Hogloy to the mobs* hid Ruch tenth him. Lod Rooftop nil he wow be, wig, OM he po- NM opinions dam shout W; sad that he was nos for a lag dm in bay summloation with a dailimplehed =(wale bad dm boy maployed by Lord Rileabotonghl em nr ... 2.r 010 g hie politics, until, from an as allioad meek at table, b found that he was whit word be ambit bleed a gnat radiod. (Hear, F a ruesintre, la Midi a area merits and not his wen to Mansomsal P Ha was afraid that the mid sot lad loag. (Hay Itama. (Yr. Itt i wbbsd spin to Mom am ?ha Ohs Sid the Moans al aim mid be roped the Mir o so a Yeager the poinslpha my Milk bog hid 111 wow been gamy= It was Mis ante gm est thus me a growing wish la to Mahn ea 1 8 61111 8 11 0 1 1 beds" babitsomi =visas,. of the Modal= (Ham bar.) H. (Mr. Babe hoped he should not be mahondiod as ebbing to plate say hindrance rzitylbs prepapitha of Christianity. Se biped that CMr "Mild be left to led Ye way by its own mobs; fools vas whiled that Us if loos rapid, wadi bs mom are if it waa left to the grahml amonsioa al tha natives, and no athwart w mob to Mr it gm tlem (Hear, hear.) But why its ipssiss whisk had bun nob is this comby, Min the mete. Mike he/ a i lb s af a fa the pray when ticdar Wh ts Midi boa Mist MOM, mid am( wass road by de asdno—as tor by till ambits they ilea ho— bs w meld }ley be eminaid Mr my b linded was a of paw and not a yaws ors: tha nom d dsolemilla ahmr,_boszl Bootag) hold M deal a alshimat wear S he en er r W en Mob& arni thesaildlent mommimildish b Merpoblind, ittoolog Alt bet bus as• i the wage d slate 11163:—" L Theadystim of dr en dr hoped mob by a post oft= Am of =ad • wags apparel b 7 gemmng; ▪ ilmistko of thin mehOONAP • sad the attinannalehni Mr.eid n Finns =km mieskaaay) stisdu rim tho mot r 0g g ... 2,1= ▪ way t grappled MIL Omit pasthirL:6d sow maim Mini sinallamd sad Madre" tabula,. to did as nitro isQlßi" The retiree of the rooms (mom) the Makes territory actively wommisased, on r a rlsolpho 'oldie have been tried, MM the most MINN yeamil(pt t e momorabium) ig HOMY aid Cut tack. 4. A code of civil and criminal proredlue, the Lest in the world, actually roads by the comusiedosers ia London, and now in through the Logician's Council of India. The Pend Cade (Ileumlay's) with the lateet improvement' also in progress through the Council. 6. Kw inarns,, , ro of widow, legelised. The forfeiture of clefl rights by chance of religion &Wooed. 6. No new great pubic work commenoed in those four 7eare, berause those already in progress absorbed all the fonds &violable. But the grog canal., sateuts river enitankue tits) and roads mentioned in the mousorandum have been carried on with tidlubled vigour till stopped by went circumstances; mad, in the meantime, the minor work. __, , —............ ......-._ is, bath Ives& and works at WWI= which have born coa *twee& wr preparatory meseness taken during tbi. short period, in nearly every pat of India, from the periods of the rta!treasury, pertly from heal funds, may be clawless." when the sable lord talked about delay, the hour would see that delay bad not and would not put an end to the progress of improvement. (Cheers.) When, in another place. • member of her Majesty's government said that he ob jected to the existing government becaues it roan anomaly, his reply would be whet Mr. Mill had so ably stated lit the evidence he had given before the House of Lords . " It wog not the double government but our possession of India that was the anomaly." (Hear, hear .) The teal anomaly wee that they had a state of thi ngs which was without • parallel. They had poreseion of an empire the like of which bed never existed since Rome was in the zenith of her glory ; and they had nothing to guide them in the way of precedent or example. (Hear , bear.) And whet was the plea of the noble lord P He wished to place it under the mind of public and parliamentry opinion. No doubt, as a rale, time ma no better security for good government than • free wor ths of public opinion. Bat where would they And a public opinion in India? (Hear, hear.) It was obvious that what was meant was public opinion in England. Now they all knew the mistakes that one nation made in judging et one another. The ideas mspecting England which in the neighbouring kingdom of Francs, sad the = l eg: regard to France which prevailed in Engird, would illus trate what he was saying. But here they had a country tea thousand miles of{ an alien race, a people utterly different from us in their religion, their habits, and feelings. How, then, could the public opinion of this country be coda to excretes • beneficial lab:kenos ever India? (Hear, hear.) Depend upon it the change would be fraught with nothing but evil for our eastern empire; and the danger would not be greater for India than it would be for England breed. (Load chem.) It was admitted that the American micelles way lost in consequence of that very pressure al 'abbe opinion pop the legislature of this country which was now proposed as a panacea fur all the evils which existed in India. Be it an anomaly if they pleased, but it would have base • blaring for us it there had existed, with regard to our American oolonise, a board of directory composed at man of knowledge and in dependres, who keen the wade of the colonies they governed. (Rear, bear.) Well were it if there had been a double government that could have of a cheek upon the rashness, the unenlightened ignorance, the temper, amid obatheey of our ooloand governments. (Cheers.) As for the council the noble lord proposed to set up no one could ea it an independent one when its nomination would depend apes the will of the government. (Hear, bear.) And here e hinht ask, ware the names of the first membersmembersof that se In be placed In the bill ? In Mr. Fox's morrow much her was psid to the principle of inimandesos from inmenninatal idiom» that the names ef the resell were beinserted in the bill by perliameat itself. (Hear.) reV to llWthg) repeated that the bones was sot sudeinetly infused to deei with a bill the he pement. It was peas tam beim they he pat down the may, to think dpattiag deed ISIS 11010alailt. (Cheers.) Merely it ought sot to be MOWS at anti. obis whether the government would ar neeld nee as sben=by the Orme. (Hear, host) co. them the hew to pante before they depot te ll = pint. Let dim_ palm till they Mew imbed were really the wants of that Mime they tranderred it to the uneorti public glides d England. =.) His t honoured. Simi the member for oath (tiir F. ring) bad denrent la • aria that th e East India Oidgend mail is shat time Weeds • maid el history. IC It - wee may s the demos of =rnal the will of the mike that dieitheer in ow sked! be demi, the mooed would, lima God, OM hempen, and for ages to am would rod Its pep with • f of hosed pride, (Chem") They would Soin ftiens la them, no som a. dieb‘ eirosiminnem and bab whloh lo theL iticis mal! , ci tib e s; w il o w Jl juin. whether them men were mem upon the system of the thao lo of the m e ga (Hear, hear.) meld see lo It • Maury of aneennee with an ami d an inirgy and me bigwithout a would, in bet, tribe the i steps by Mehl archaic beam. the pos sesses of iiilyeat impire—(shomi :-41mty would find in it • record of galtey,pdeloibm NM mitheentho, which hed shod • lustre upon the Babb met (Cheers.) They would And In it the lire of end adminberters second to none for their for the oomprehensivenew of their views, for their and humanity. (labiers.) They hdi V would iad ia it mea w a whib they always Med for the interests of llagien it hiid an,,, lest eight of the miters of lan e. (Cher . I= i ii hs bow. eth sin getieemmit idth had not Moth it asgraidd MO MNw and white bad wow mad to moped the damp end the sellgiens menthe*. of the inhabitable. ((hem) God imp that the esatiamithe of that history might wend se bight or sea but ; but never let It have to mai 4111110 led as that, in a monied ,et tremble emipsepledVaimalii:tia matt minister could . 2.4 adding fo®d e s : = .... tern mandinibe allendim • amp ef gummed. (Cliare.) Lel it new ~rid 400 111 /100 peelliment mad imperil an empire b it ebb& fgaoranoe of what its wants req Above Ist it never he Need that by asst of the house demi the Queue andeiona were eanveibi lab the idiom& et petty. Oland cheers.) The bd. gmillmod is Thee immihnllia e 01•41W e a to eat, `' it net at mu d mgllsei to it the government of ban." (am") de L PERRY theldis INS 41411 fittest and met memiet Ike • mom of this kind ; Crab/ d Ibi BOW mil the attention of thar isisjib pneliftent wine mer with Lithe mike, 1 end ; all ese ibm India showed that mum pod imp was mlisimeed tare. His opinion teem *et he present system was an Ohl% ink% wed am them machine, Made had not assempifthed the eb gestvorhich it was Winded to Abet, the Oat i g re being now • mum mpg . sieraisaw, it Board of Codrol ausel=o/ ,,iii He tine el llt not give the lead dine punt Imposed ',mem • =t M. he shoed only enter into the gam. Yen so far am to amider wisdom this was the right time he the introdnotion of the bill. The node Ind had said that num who pat prominently forwent peed. for delay mot :In to oWeet to the whole petrol* of the ammo. But a ises esaision, whoa the cavalry wee m isigoil ia • senithe, and Lord John Rumen pro to *fog linrerini • somas of rehmeeetary reform ' Palmed= kind In urging that that measure should be leaned ; he no one called the latter mak lord a bad retainer an that ossoant. Hon. mwhobaillaWycomeinto pwiieeat into ' and had not before wand 40 Indian ImMens, have no dillculty in taking pet ia this MGM and teemeding it with their Mom opinion. Bat he amid ad kelp mama. boring that in 1863 he hod dam all he mad to lapped the company, sad hod stated his otsvislion Het the geminmed of that company was, in an its emediale, aged end • right goviememat—that he had seed all the Weems he pommed to peeminde that gewnesent, NM b I•l B 2 d eune amen& mean while he mete& lees. degree dr which the.took Om At di not see he be mid bl e = on to sopped the ineninee d Ns lethie think ahem snit arguminte WON promnini m shenN lame hho to Owego his opinions. Bath iniverinie might_ piesibly haven be preoweed. It might have hien shwa dot is the great nub of omits lately in With the elm of the doable sommiont had been so disimiona, so injum am to He ammo did power in lailo, that it van neesenry, whaterar ether it might hathat &odd be meddled se •thethini. hod welted w ith the e occurrins wit =gtbelied in me Irked* hi the speech of his noble a Ningbo nee wit hmeght forward which would mem to the adhlinthss el say reasonable man that, in the of mei in India, etcommfal min ProM m en day Mil Wm Het moons had been amid er band in vary theme by the aided of the double government JIM the noble kid he idle to thaw that in any way the adien of the double govarummi had sentributed to that awful wry or rebellion in India—or thst WY ma smile lam mild bejasidall la thinking OM lithe doable government he net suldei, the may or Mahn wadi net Imo tibia pimo—ln OW am theli sina l L ath law hem ailed upon to soot* task penriene But he lid brought formed no each assamd ; il me not pose sills for those who 11;1653 had sawed the goveniment of the company to abed= it at this mineeng. (Ham leer. His feeling with mord to the dad& always been very south noodled by L . l l :ol7sr i ation ef the nature of one gevemment at hems. He hod always been wry lattrildbg to othetthite inter for consdintlem and had always thought, from the biped/me °Maid, and reedenre, that it was a very dangerous thing, in my distinct and formal manner, to obliterate a time-honoured and enduring institution. The experience of governments on the continent showed how dif ficult it was even for the beet-devised government to work its way in the world end accomplish its own parpmes whim It proceeded from the theory of any statesmen whatever, and not from the pruned action of events. (Hear.) Theinkre be had always hooked mercifully on the shortcomings oldie last India Company ad of the Board of Control, belleviee Hat in both came the intentions of the governors bed been right, and that their imperfection, should be rather attributed to the neoratary defects of batman nature. Now they wire to have a total change. A new order was to he given by the oak lord for the government of 100 millions of people. This charter was to be dab shaved by this small free nation despotically over that immune portion of the globe. It was the 61: ruse lE aora lltad always proved very velit, that is hi of ; and he did not think that the sanction of an mak sad the British constitution would be any =elseseer that India would be more mercifully or * dos demotion of so English cabinet siggig !Cr he ISM by the double government of the Sr India Crory. It Wee meowed to Writer for the Illilapeny a council of eight gentlemen, to be appointed by the grown —men. tberebts, in • eater degree, owing their t eition to the government of the day, who were to Metes oe Indian minister open wire points. They way Rot b have any farther Oliver th an that of recording their *tett in a note. It did net appear den that t h ey were to have die power of present leg those protests to parliament. At any rate none of UOlll would have the privilege of stating in that home the counter tees to that of the Indian minister. And yet it was said that this was no change at all. The noble lord not only took away the check of the East India Company on the administration of the affairs of India, but be took away that Meek which had always existed in the presence of some directors in that home, who could state their case, if it hap sened differ from that of the President of the Board of Control. He could not understand bow any man redly con versant with the affairs of India could be induced to become a member of that council. He could not believe that any one of the present directors would submit to plan himself in a position in which he must be either an East India clerk or an English subordinate. It was said that though the patronage wee to be vented in the crown, it would be Orem by competition. He could not conceive that the President of the India Board would be es independent an authority in the distribution of pitmane as that which now existed. Would it not be continually suspected that the patronage of the new directors was the patronage of the minister who prodded over their deliberations, and wee made the subject of mutual compromise for the convenience of both parties? But his great objection to the measure was as to the time of its introduction. The last speaker said that be should deem it a great glory to have taken part in contributing to the change of government on this occasion—,change of govern ment which they were told from the very commencement was to be tinged in no way whatever with party colour— that Indian affairs were not to be made matters of party politics more then they were now. But if they began by snaking the change a matter of party politic* in that house, what an wisest wee that of the party battles which would occur in biter, on Indian aides ! A little experience in that house had shown him what wee the fate of colonies and dependencies when they came is emelece with the party spirit of that home. He bad heard the disensiens on Ceylon and on Canada , in both cases he bed seen greet ',kinetic., committed, and he had unfortunately ems the interests of those mainly comerned continually milisedieled to the party iatmeate of that house. (Hear, lam) The question of the goverment of Ceylon was pre seeds/ In such • way to the house that all but • total dhoo. Melee of that government wee most by it; and with the ezemtics of the premed Colonial &met/my, Mr. Charles Mara", not one official in Ceylon kept his plaos after that pedinseenry discussion. It wee an awful danger to think ef exposing to this mode of action the destiny of 100 minions of people. He had waited with the greatest anxiety to beer from the noble lord some plea for bringing forward his measure at this moment, but he had not advanced • en& plea of the kind. Could that plea be the belief that the Meet India Company was at present unpopular with the pee* of England, and that it would be an advantage to the government politically if they could abolish it ? (Hear, hem.) He could not believe that. Hedid not believe in the fact that the people of this country having thought upon the matter, did retard the Hest India Compmy with any haling of diddle or mation. (Haar, hear.) They knew that the government of the East India Company had really bees the government of themeless for themselves. It had been the government of India by the great middle dames of lo p = and by the real public opinion of this country, as by its Mg and most glorious num. (Hear, hear.) The com pany had been free tram all party bias mid all political con maim It wee the may goverament In the world that he had ever read or beard of where it was nut pretended that any favour was shown except that which was due to merit and desert (Hear, hear) He could not believe that the patronage of t he Beet India Company, if left to them, would be so equally diabibuted under the new government as under the old. It was mid that the amount wee exceedingly ma% sad that the Intern of open competition i settled the questien. Be had opposed the hero el that system in 1668; end he believed that before eller Wynn pealed, • peat may memberof that Douai well gam his example. Ti• bow that that system was a pen INW ol many lamina ; soma Meads of his wen point Mane on that meter. (A leragh.) There wee Mem r Seek that Ye evens is India hed shown that the beeeneited AK ad Ong' lan ant the wised men. Reis man had teen mitts lilat the ornate of the East India Company had be Lee the house look at whet they now IMO. At this meenent, Orltes the company's servants, leech Watery red civil, had shown themselves men of whim every one might justly be proud—when • &gib of this mutiny, or rather Indian war, bed atilliemeed in the minds of men almost all =lin disasters of the govenunent war in the , user)—when there wee hardly a boy in the =it distant stations who had not in degree Mae the chance. and vigour of the Brlt a ir no ne— (hear, r -. 40 choose such a moment as thin to to them men that the government they had wee an tut neer genrament, did emir • moat unfflatetal act on that pet of toy minister. (Hem beer.) He should have elg manshipeelei lers raelpiteticm, more iiitowledere,and more states hem the andemes of the crown. Moi Mr. W. VANBITTART mid that, bawls( be an in India for • ooneidennie period, he wished to Wirer a few words to the bone en dm qualm. The led India Com paq pretend • to the bout T he l:g In inquiry, sad he whetter snob a et psdtlionere had ever sword at die bee of the house. challenged in quiry be. the ammo at the mutiny ; and there was so much of truth, jleelles, emit digetty in their appeal that he could net believe that the Here of enanioas, enanal es it always had beta by printiee of the denten Wear end justice, wooldreten Mgad the Inquiry asked Ihr. That inquiry he lobe* thaheekWinernsar7mdivid7!lvca,"44 vte and its remake waste be its beet pM. u tater; i He was notipmored to admit that the Let India e L ialad pen y ap. were to he Mimi altogether toe pest &W&. Ha that in tee sway boomer they led to beer end to =kr for the work' sod ignorance of the Board at Control. He hoped OM an took, foto the comsat of the India sift would tole - Om, Demote he thought one • of its come would Is hand to hew been the insulliciency of Mbar, mega plead at the disposal of the im a te r mrearmaamt kir some isms beak. Would it be het Owe we hat one toperna militant, namely, the Mk Feet, white wee stalked at Diatom to protect 611 Wks if country amtekkg each important towns e. Cawnpank Became, and Allshabed, which lest city was the bey .1 the hew provinces, and contained 19 lace of rupees and mows! Oman of heavy ordnance P Were it net is I the brave Otmeral Nall and the Madras Fusiliers, rind by the aura= of Mr. P. (tubbing, we owe have lost Ike BIONIIIII red Allelshat (Cheers.) In the whole beaten Celmells sod llaballeh, 1,100 mike in length= from 250 to 666 vie Vide. exclusive of the territories i dle &Oh etNegysio, Iltioilnd m llother, there wore but two lieropma . at regiments and four regiments of leglegoy—ama deraned at toe at Lee:know—the leme Ithod—oso at hos,one at amt, and one at Umbe6ah. There nee en Buropean ry =s at Beaares, Allthbed, Oa wen , and other important ma thms. (Haor ° 7 lv ar e iver Ones they occupied Ca ::li= had one Europe= reghnent thent, "Pc an of Thognons besides. Bet would it be tail wee the infatuation of the home am lbeelthe, ihod they withdrew three Utopia& mate ham Tali between 1864 and 1856 ; SD that in the ham period. Wore the annexation of Olds, them nue 21 Earapan memento ot iambi ood two ef to to India, whales in 186 6 there IRO he .18 regloola of kinky and two of aviary? bolioved that if those thins additional regiments OM sot been withdrawn those brutal manatee wash mot have takenplaoa, as the outbreak would have been Mold in the bud. From Islam to Rangoon, a distance of I,olh men., with not Yee than 80,000,000 Inhabitants, there weritat 18 bouillons at infentry, of which seven were iodate keep dove the pope/aka of the Puaanb. But Id where the pepaielha yes ael haessol, where illet were 00,000 troop gal IN mad keta we Inept but ass luropean regim* awl that et es arm if that dente and ill hal Melia of Calmar's. Wlnt regard the 214 reglard Wahl be raid e,whlsk were erthrtrawn Ikea tali la ft that they were ousted he do Oriels we.. Bat thee yes ehend ant shoe • eneelehon 'Ma wle earobohrotorrodo te (111 ear, WO_ Lord Mande sad Gan who were sew ea m'wLtas Oda if ladle sew what traeld ni Zif t vb. lit ON* re Dtrectom approvel tht et the snoralha Ole* the mi.* 0 susis matblng M ug = How did we omit MAO hp essagging seeedeee into the country, and Poll* god s vobildesoo kW sod court and a licentious net was set the way het Sir C. Napier worm lioth a a su l that Lord Hardinge and Lard (butiltrolord the b. Lad Dalhousle'e reemerge d/than wee mot to. Whet was the effect of ra n e ill ll : t ak without a corimpooding number of tr oop? They ealy to look for, en answer to the kid horrors which bad alma place in lad* sad to thee provinces which had ben wetted from oter mile by cramail • ad seailted Or Melo Nelll,Wkoder and 13 li cheVa .....ada.d sPasid the WI stay of listdol tabs:hi ilk ildbirlon Oils sot otlf alaialha riehil 11V Me wit *Obi ate aid w la Who tarolotigwrilmfro: =st.Mho% two folly mans. tow Idloo Wry the nob et govordtag fdqdry EMU* Into the tame policy or atotthl4l linsfina ear Marylon without a tarrespondhig he &room boom la Odd that Ow - 1320. at ells 1,18 he lied dr Wow ) of lowing the waft me lb* denta l§dodle of Amara traps. (am viji_b mei do pew dropouts. *As momery. " WO el glO all& the=a te e=v,l..... i ali neWerodis ardi.be Itiorrogrhod so to Mem aid Bodoni Orr bats. Est if Nollholon 11111 11"11 : 11 1: 1 D= Stini.tallit Vim *NM bo oratotily Mt With the Ilarea,aliOavapae aerweenearearged, with*, wli of &blood r Ondd Ault Is Sr bomb of Oro sildborllkabo dons of b eve al SIMON of hag Sift , GM INNS Ilde we wet the thee he ea obroodos is tbo mods powiridg lodic Ho didle ark mkt thee. rbrosootadoso, corooloa goody vole tz rho ed b 7 moblelord et the bead et hagete el mer adokbikpripts Pam, bac) the Mr. A YRTON NMI Ike Ai sot WM_ Mrs& ids Veld= for the tint time. flerfoig psi to UM wed' = ra ilip with every prejudice in beam et the Sall ledle being the object of their Moo. Ito " 1 11= the the which they was to oda on nevertheless came to the that it weld not only be highly fampollot bid' Amos firpordble to continue the adommit of .1 ladto In the new of the Bea bib Oompity. And is Yr hot we don of prolbomod food oggstonfty of up lug that lb dabliblldt net lie Ortimott of the_ crown for that of the Ea India Compaq was, ta • his opinion. utheaeary for the DlSl4TertallUe of India end the loyalty of its people. He looked upon the rovernmeat of the East India Coiapany as wholly inwmpanth with the least knowledge of politica on the pert of the people of India, far it was impoasible, if there war ii wood infer nee in govern ment at all, to conceive anything moth eeplorthl.., more de grading, or more dishonoureble to • people than that their exiarenoe should be ignored by the b•rerrign wets on which they depended, and turned over to be ma naged by the remnant of a joint-eitoek company. (Hear.) sir J. ELPHINSTONE said that two maces Wined him to vote spinet the bill. The first wee, that instead of an independent responsible body drawn from those beet acquainted with the eutject, the power would be trenafereed to an irresponsible body; for although the members of the council were in the first instance to be chosen from the emir, of Directors, the office must eventually become . a political one, given fur parry purposes. (Hear, hear., H. strongest o_lejection to the bill was on the ground of . the time he believed it would have • very prejudicial effect in deed in India if this question should be brought forward and dealt with at this moment. (Hear, hew) There was a formidable struggle still going on in India, and it was well known that the bulk of thee who were engaged In it knew only what their leadere wished them to know. In proof of tbia he might refirr to the slowness with which the news of the fall of Delhi speed through the cvthatry. For weeks multitudes remained in ignorance of the Let, and be believed that at that moment it was unknown in some pane that Delhi had fallen. In the course of the debate that evening her Majesty's colonies had been alluded to as being governed in a superior manner to the territories of the East India Compan). He had some knowledge of on. of three colonies, namely, the laland of Ceylon. Wherewith India there were already four or five hundred maps of railway in °pro ion, and there was • greater mileage still in progress—in Ceylon • railway which was projected in 1845 had with great am enity now been made the subject of • survey ; and whereas the last India Company had lately taken into consideration the ex*iwcy of doing away with all import duties as being ineonst with the spirit of too age, the government of Ceylon had imposed a ditty of 2i per cent. on all e If the public offices in C e yl on were examined it would b e h found that the appointments in them were not generally given to such menu the Lawrence@ and Ontrems, and others of the mama claw In that island amember of the council, who had regarded ft as consistent with hie duty to oppose the con struction of a railway, was the month:l-law of a mem ber of her Majesty's government. He felt perfectly certain that from the moment the government exorcised the sums influence in India that they now exercised in the colonies the description of men who governed India would begin to deteriorate. He we ear primed to hear the noble lord at the heed of the government remark at the close of his speech, that the company having governed India for 200 years waa responsible for the mu tiny. When he fint went to India, about five and thirty years ago, they did not power one-half the amount of territory that they possessed at present. Delhi was ac- Luir c l , l only in 1801. Since 1817 they had acquired the &Inds, Chittagong, Bermah, Pegu, the Punjaub, and various other provinces, making, perhaw, In the aggre gate three-fifths of the Indian empire. It was surprising that tho noble lent who could not open hie mouth without show ing how varied was his information, should have committed himself to such a palpable fallacy. He trusted that the hotter would not consent to pees the bill in the shape in which It stood. Looking at the amount ot work which bad been dose by the government of India during the last twenty years, end at the public works which were still going on, and must in • short time be brought to a completion, he was con vinced that there never was another government which had dons me much within the same period; and be had no doubt that those energetic and honourable men whose conduct bad out Etch a lustre over the arms and policy of this country would be enabled to clear themaelwe from every imputation 1 width bad been made upon them, and to show that the chief 1 mistakes which had been committed bad proceeded from her i esty's mivernment. and not from themselves. (Hear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the bon. member for Huntingdonshire (Mr. T. Baring), who ' bad followed the somewhat unu sua l course of moving an amendment to the motion for leave to introduce the bill, laid the foundation of that amendment by presenting to the house en ably drawn and carefully wnaidered petition from the But India Company. Now he agreed with the banwerable gentlemen who had lately addressed the men t h at petition had received full as much praise am it —(hear, hear)—for a public document of that kind ought, as that hon. member remarked, not merely to be distingtuthed by excellencea of composition and of s ty e, but also to be based on undeniable facia, end to present doge and cogent reasoning. (Hear, hear.) Now there were two plain assumptions running through that doeumeot. One se gumption, which was perpetually obtruded on their attentiou, wag, that they owed to the Rant India Company —to their C Z ,.. t ibri n t d risourcee, hal th ot eLr f twer gy was, ti lb t e airiel m. tion nm o l f t of the Raw India Company was one of the beet govern- maths that the civilised world had produced—that ft all might be taken as • model and a pattern by other governments. Now before advert in g to the remarks of the hoe member (hlr. T. Baring) he wished to examine how far those woo main allegations of the petition could be subeantialed. First, then, with regerd to the 1 assumption Ba st thw owed the sequidtion of their Indian empire to the India Company. - He would not now stop , to e whether that sot ' had all the talus which was attributed to it. It owtafnly added nothing to the wealth of the government of . Whether or not the examineof the right of sov E ee my had contributed much to tiler trade with that oountry we. • matter of opinion. Tbs.% however, who maintained that they owed an inexhausdbh debt of gratitude for the supped acquisatka of that by the East India Company, were bad to show that bad derived great benefit w it. Ns waited for the proofs of that ; ue. to thee he wag ow tainly not acquainted with th ew Bat 1t . e ..... 8r admitted that that empire havieL ire bs y s i k the native governments ha ii ia llesta 0 Site own government having Binea,lbey bad Memel were obligations MIMI glegle er Mk which they were bound to fulfil, Nit It wee sai spa theme fur the asks ot the natives of India, to administer the eat in the best wily in their power. He did net eg question ths policy of maintaining the Indian empire ; be only maid that those who maintained that they ow e d • d ee p d e bt of to the Beet ladle Company were b oun d t o prove tL eli t l they le had derived such enormous advantages from India as thew were 'apposed to have done. But he disputed the doc tr ine ' that ft was by the policy of the East India Comma? that the Indian empire was acquired. No person who wee acquainted inth the history of the Bast India Company would retails to admit that It had been the in variable doctrine of that company—of the executive govern ' meth of this country. and of partiament— thus all weft end all territorial acquisitions in India should. if possible, be avoided. While the company was a trading body, that doctrine wit maintained by the directors ewe more peremp torily then it had been since it became • mace governing body. It main defiance of instructions from home, it was through the energy of men like Clive, the/ugh the daring and snomethal re ity of governors like Warren that the fret time et the Indian empire w i L ag a th a (Haar, beer.) The Best India Company had factories, they bad forts, they bad • small army, they had an they hadasiAmws in India which were filled el t= servants. (Hear, hear.) Mass servants were hem fhb very beginning a subordthaw and mutinous rasa—(hl r . and "bear, hew 1-end to is of their egg ••• quint territory. (Hear, hear.) They were rsgsief a mshe neeiteinges to this country. What was the SIAM M i i: alas w neeliMmees P Why, to Oder • ermines 111111'.) The dklollll always held des same Maga. : obe jar they ad, 0 be *gullible, avoid wen, amid the sop& aka a , bat do not forget to es ea tesftiase home .) We 4 the mmoste at Ns sepagand at Asa time by a moms ortZ li t Is moths remit C ep l et Geed Hop, abashed et imispendsser, end as air so Lhe d =my ommaal 'aerated asomphia this th an& illsetisdkece ef their own sermon. Ns mastaad, las t that the !mahatma al ,eon em pire were lad, In of the dirtinet, repeage try instructions d ohs tending direcien in Landon ore= them. Socoomeive acquisitions were made by Clive, Madam and other men, who scud cm *skews poik 7 in spite of =atom dirsodons from this comb y. Aslant was the fate of these India conquerors whin they aggesed to this country? Loa Clive istamed aloha by s tale hams, not acquired, ha da te d le ray, by ails mans. • hw ahr he ear duet wee wade the s oled elf esems wensmar as mean amnia by *lda he ignt en end ble ens la. sash was the Oa prodant In this on the mad of him who ma sand the fotne e M eras empire. They all knew what wee tha reasgion Haatings and with. They all knew thsA i t i t a t Or his return, he became the object of that iiehsamt in which awl/ all the *mad teisail the deg wire employed la thasualmg lq2l, at lama, ad mledessessors of di masa ; ast Daher Dam, ma Ten, nor Dana', nor en d to throw Iblig liiii ea ha, and that he wee man consent eandemmed by prima end the arantiy. Timane, ft ma gas • nista, to lama that It was ths racy of the Court at Dirsolers that gave then the Imam mare : it was, in M . 61 kregar ad inembradhats magi of mouth of sag, lased, the hanamme which the gemettrlen the company plata in ahr hands, but in dime a the smart policy and repeated instmotions of the amare. Well, each was the state of things up to the time awn the government of India practically passed out of the beefs of the Company—and with regard to the period at math ale occurred he was entirely at throe with the peti tioners and with the hon. member for Huntingdon—in 1784. Pram Ant time a series of governors were appointed under As Wham a the executive government at heath. Now, who was Om Hementw-General who might be said to have beta dm mead hadm of the Indian empire ? Why, the =rdisli.y. He went out to India not merely on the of the directors, bat under the restreint of an set ot pertiameat passed unanimously to prevent terrltoriel acquisitions in India ,• but be evaded that act by the system which he introduced of subsidising treeing. 1 Under that system the acquisition of territory was avoided, but the essay, and wady the reel sovereignty of the into the of the British government. Mit l= wag, bite hie predecessors, forced to act in at the poky sanctioned by the legislation of parlia ment wil _ y enforced upon him by the instructions a tr• ibeeleen it salted the purpose of the pro gtamse,,,,..... !e r r Eset India Company Company to resm d set t themtvil i l4l . Wan dow n maim t o the were of the Orthernote- Tide einelbe truth. It war creditable to the Asa toy bed been the constant opponents of tend eittheediemnet in Leila; la, then, if that policy had always been carried out tide country would not now have its ' Indian empire. lie now came to the aseumption that the lgovernment of India had bun administered in a meaner which entitled it to universal admiration, and made it a model for all the governments on the /woof the earth. This wee the manner in which the company spoke of themselves in their petition " They feel • complete assurance that the more attention hi bestowed and the more light thrown upon India sad its administration, the more evident it will become that the government in which they have borne a part has been not only one of the purest in intention, but one of the most beceficent in art, ever known amongst mankind." Now, be thought it could net be disputed that the character which the East India Company bestowed upon itself was not very moderate in point of excellenos. lot them see how far this character rested upon the evidence of fame. The company remained substantially a trading one till the battle of Ptrasy wasfought under Clive; and the acquisition of Donranee wee the foun dation of the sovereignty of Bengal. A few years after the government of England begin to claim a Mare in the terri torial soquintions, and the matter was compromise , ' by an agreement on the pert of the company to pay a certain sum annually instead rat handing over its tetritonal atiquisitioss, au was proposed by Lord Clive and Mr. Pitt, to the crown. That sate of things continued fora number of years, when the abuses which prevailed in India attracted the notice of the legislature. In the year 1773, during the administrates of Lon" North, there was passed what was called the Regula tion Act, when perlisment firm interfered with the local go vernment of India. It did not attempt to control the parry in London, but it dealt with tho council in India. Five member. el the council were named in the am of 1773, and t h ere o f then; among whom was Warren Hsetta g s , went nut from the country. The result of this attempt at par- liamentary control was diseeneion without and in The coun cil. A duel was fought between two of the am bers of it ; there was a contest in the SIMMS. Court, and ultimately the conviction Wei forced on parlia ment that its attempt to exercise direct control over the local government wee a complete failure. He should observe that by the act of 1773 power wee given to the Secretary of State and the Lords of the Treasury to examine all the cone- Foetid/nos that was received from India. In the popular arguments on this subject it was commonly assumed that parliamentary control was exercised for the first time under the administration of Mr. Pitt, in 1784; but what he bad just stated showed that this assumption was eneneous. Power was, he repeated, taken to I epan all correspondence received from India, but it wee found that that power was not sufficient, sad in 1780 Lord North brought in a bill by which a power was gives to the government of controlling the correspondence sent by the Court of Directors to the authorities in India. That was a system which was afterwards consolidated under Mr. Pitt's act of 1784. But notwithstanding these successive interfirences of parliamentary control, the administration of India was not found to improve. Complaints multiplied and committees of the house were appointed in 1781 and 1782, who made a long succession of reports which were included in four lathe folio volumes, compared with which our modern blue books were pray and contemptible in their propnrtions. (" Hear, hear, and laughter.) The whole subject of India administration was thus investigated by two com mittees of the house—one of them presided over by Mr. Burke and the other by Mr. Dundee, w wite afterwards President of the Board of Contl. 3 cd, d = they made, he believed, no lee than seventeen report'. He stated that to show that the whole subject of India had undergoes the most careful investigation by the House of Commons at that time, and that those who supposed the ad ministration of the company from 1783 to 1784 was a course of uninterrupted prosperity must be singularly uninformed in the pernemenaey history of that period. (Hear, hear.) He wouffi take the nerty of reading an extract from some reso lutions moved by Mr. Burke in 1784 in that house, in which he described the result of those parliamentary inquiries ; and ' if the truth were doubted be could produce a multitude of passages from the reports of epeeches of the time that would supply abundant evidence in support of err ry cne of the items in this sweeping sentence and condemnation. He Naked the attention of the hoe's to this summary of the result of the investigations he had referred to, as showing hew far the character which the East India Company tow gave of their own administration, when the ayeleto of pure, raps, sad unmixed management by the company and their officers, with only a very imperfect control en the part of the executive government, was true. !Hz. Borke's resolution of 1784 stated: The remelt of the perhamentary Inquiry was that the Bast India Company was found totally corrupted and totally per vetted from the purposes of its institution, whether politics' or commerdal ; that the powers of war and peaoe riven by the charter bed been abated by kindling hostilities in every quieter for the purposes of Welk, and almost all the treatise of peace they had made had been the cause of so many breaches of public faith ; they had reduced a country once flourishing to decay ; under their rule the population dine ' sighed, and the national character bed been dishonoured. That the malvereatioas of their servants were encouraged rater than checked; and when certain pincipal delinquents were pointed out the company reamed to recall them, and supported those who had fallen under the just oniattre of the home Strong am this language might sound to the House of Cm moms at this moment, unfamiliar as they were with dr scenes of rapine s plunder, and every species of abominedioa that were brought out in evidence before the committees of 1783 and 1784, he maintained that it was a faithful mee t sentation of the opinions that prevailed at the time with respect to the government of the East India Corn , pony. He maintained that this notion, this senti ment, in favour of the Haat India Cowpony, and the debt of gratitude we owed to them, was entirety un known and altogether alien to the feelings of that generation who knew what the company was before parliament inter fared. He maintained confidently that no civilised govern ment ever existed upon the face of the earth more corrupt, more perfidious, Sr more rapacious than that of the East India Company from 1768 to 1784—(hear, hear)—that was during the interval from the time when it became a territorial senweignty until it was placed under poiliamen tary emend ; and he appealed to the recommendations of parliament and the evidence in the repine and documents of the time for osioluslys proof &minatory of the character of the company as a political body. With these facts before him, he cadamed that he could not read without armies the characeer which the company had bestowed upon thasselvem founded es it was entirely upon their acts sense the period whin they were subjected te par liamentary oastrel—stece the time when then had been a Board of Control to superintend theproceedings of the e rectors in London, and minas there bean Gowesoe neral and _other governors in India appointed, not by the directors themselves, bat by the executive roveramed, @ab ject to pub lic in opinion and subject to parlisameagy reeponsibi . (Hear.) All that could he said in favour of the East die Company dated from the year 1784, and be challenged them to find one bright page in their annals dunes the whole period that they were free from control. It was by suppreesng their conduct in bygone times which had passed from the memory of the present generation, and the records of which were to be found a Wades written by their own servants, who dwelt but little on their own misdeeds, and by ooseentrathig attention on their rube peat acts when the company had come under the metro' of parliament and the suiontive the* they were enabled to give themselves that eztraordinary favourable character. But lot the hones fellow their history from 1784. They knew that beam that date Mr. Fox and Mr. Burke, who was chedrems of one of the committees, was deeply impressed with the azioneeties of the company, and who. in the impeachment of Warne Hastings, brought before the house and the country in those eloquent orations which would remain coeval with the history of the country the misleads of the pro-consulate whose sate he impugned ; it was the combination of th e efforts of theme two gnat alesemata that led to the foundation of the first India seesaw that almost annihilated the rule of the company. The cases of the defeat of that ram sure was not sympathy with the company, but alarm m rupee to the Indian patronage. It was believed that the commiesianne named ID that bill ;gni pirtiminl end it was thought that an uneonyi....___ power wee Model re le smilinred upon them :that we with that thwarbask the hill pried the Commons, and It wee Attrown wet hole Leeds, in asesegnenes, It wee supposed, e a t : i h m e i rsealeasenearef the King, whn took Glenn et the • bran thew iiiiheistsr amd Pmir. It IMS Wail li"nt ilat the sym thit pathy th . Mil d the woul ootin d ece- try trill the last India Comp% but Mr. Pitt had tke de.- ** be Mb advantage el slim that had beau excited =dm the hettranka that Mr. Fox Intended to used Idailalf honsperly of the powers the bill would have asthma the government, mad detested Ie zahtistry. Ir a . Pltt themowns in, wed mime hie shot sherstion that kern of Indian gomenment was selnhilehed which with same demo had mimed to the pessust day. Mr. Pitt laid it hewn es a that there mishit am imperstart *l hr en the suttees of bilk and public *ohm at that time absolutely required thee the East Lan Osingssy should net be Isit in the exercise at hi unconstrained peer. Mr. Pitt having wadded in throw ingi out the goweemeat of Mr. Eon open the previous bill, the company la pcammion albs pewee bleb of govern lag sad of balm lost meter' a Board of Control, which wan Is re over ths mils ef the directory. Now the house wield oteirre that the dbet of treitituting tbe Beestkof Control you wholly to slew he slimester 1 the East India Company. Up to this tar the , with the v e r .: e as of the perlirameeryintedinewe Wag tra!liag swum Enrolls/ tossanten peeve emor , F in Wis. Botha lesiNnilen et% limed sfOinirsi placed the sinew lasd It lie Potenkre proms 1 a s ga b or di m b psi sk s , wee ken tint ti: linnad to obey every maw tie of OM NI hersed—theynelshmi the initiative, it wee teem sad smelled a eels troUfng power war the ashy of We Welly and ear stitntismally they was in sabordinslina and of of hie new dspedanent Of Iha lirth.lllll4. 111 17.6 Mr. the thin Pleaded 'Ms BOOM It al. iminght D ial% ter peet Ni Sbils tibia isi semeni ' fi g ..0 42 ".. m .. ..de to the wow*, rediseed tins Is greetseb.. &team prodoion, sad beerseg to emnphts perilehell ' ' the affidit .a.. fd , diVih nieve retradened. Mi. Dudes. on that the 's shrew fbr 210 years, e -- "; —. WI 1513 essignry thw th* of fres Inds beim is sprea S. h d more Ma el tbe trading spina the doable Inlespeir err . deed by the = I =, Company peso to make ad and the government, in eonsegusaoe, pared the of the nresepoly. In the la of that fair, d= I ha change wee iseredewed, and the esseimny wo ' ro Mein tisk gomening prwa sielsiest ea the Beard ea Ow hal, bed woo dspeNad el at et die Ifroa a 1 " 4. • eetelsistroareer,tbe wisorsor a ma "al ilid vas Bs sileastabudiaarelbeefilisa Ea the Hem of Commons el iota, lidd dad ' Mb "' ef fealagg ban whioh tismi they err s ami new a r sis thil bsumem erebs ie t a:V grwiewie d had