The Express. — London, England, 1849-03-20 00:00:00

ri Th. gawks beim pat the boom divided, whoa there ap poled Fat the mood reed* 7O For the ssestdoesse Vie bill was then reads semi tine soil ordered to be monsitted. NNW WRIT. Mr. COIiPTON seved•for a sew writ Raotpaire is 1M resat of Sir W. Reatheow, who lad aseeptod the Chasm auadreal. The hos gestlewas Illynand kis aimp mint that the Oita of the Yes. * basset's Weida wagered it seer teem l i I r. W. iiiiitWite=rd hie despot wird at tie lam whisk mode it at Os he m. geolistees to seam Re met ealier tad with &illot tot= iD Om eilleisal woos whisit the hood Ns aMt Oa lee" mai ha yardeaks to thearost rasa. • ea he rad the losable he leek la veh I% the et the Yoe. Novas solood osase ed the hes. Ese eirstrous of eraorilaes. be ha idled ea se siq st* is assisese el the ear la width the be. led &Armed the ago el that India& (Rees.) lIROTHIZTOR ap ar ob rt of the los. lisreset is OM ad the weave proad regret at WWI* obliged to Os ide oest i dat es loom (Rem) The welt we than ordered. PROCIRDINCig IN CANADA. Mr. P. MAMMALS aid he lad sees that aloft a Os pails jam& s statioest sf a very aisiolloey eha. mat IWO sewed Clessile--Oat •la boil hies haw &ea isle, sod VW ispidlyeag these" the Wade& leshatese, the mak poses, Or the Imes tOr haw g lirlr er earrodderielt i niellas of M- A aeon pewees lava/ her armed is Oat sehilies. Ow of tlitsettir disk this am lese to to; I := woe to orals wale, who Ind heat ! a s the they bed solobei 1a takie a verge to Vas Disseetee Lod red back. (Lawatiar.) It wee she Mewl that a pars asstal Nahaa was at he ladeusidod for ate damp taw se hie lest whisk lad hers is the sow pails et the rebels is breast to gin setae Rat les ettesid sett day ark tke eovoramest warther wadi a all had bees istrodseed, whether they woad ky a esay of it as the table awl the aad eterespeadean wads lad Vies Plies with the gorsesoripeseal ea the to.lik2ooo H . Mr. AWup= thought it bettor to wawa tk quint o iles st saw. No d* or annoniniestioa ed ties otaiwalate reselesi Nakeiser is tie article of tire itenwsw Chrostials bed bus at the Osiwietwillee ; sad be hod no is. limades vim whisk b oesld mho sty Ober wow:. lbws was as twadaties tw tho 81Wwwwil Is mg ociantani- Wks whisk bail boss see& se dr Woad elks. Mr. MACKIINZIII.—Am I Is wakeless' tbe bon. gent dims to my that he Me so kawiletto of wok • bill Wing istrodssed into the osionial lestiotwo Mr. 11/11WES.—I kore so limodotto ot web • bill being V6into the admit 14121 into of Nark how ray tgree whams. Tke bag I indeed say knowledge ot 010 811. (Mom ko_oira ADULTIMATIOiI OF . cOFFIE. Mr. mufti Wei; the Ithethiller of the Eathespase, Farthest ho t•t eu = e l; be es the lewd two years age fee as est pa whisk Emits the sale of Waxy to used gr the eiellerallea "lathe. He wished aloesath t risk *whether whether mouse lad set susthised •• loss is sos b the othemet el upwards of MO,OOOl. ; whether Gales esthe herl ask Is crawatuses of the Wreath eels of shimmy mar this Smeary islauts, bees midi at short shisay prises ; sad whether the right hos. Wesel sail she wry isms why the set of pmialtht with bod loses suipsaded tar the ppm of Whig la Mem is the plies of selesial sear bad set bees easpeaded foe the purpose it the aid& Mel ia the plass of Chinese badi (Lestiblre.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rolled that be had resolved osessate froth various quartos Maths that a due aloha= of a "Weis quality of &Wry hopened the oath, Nth boded to presets its the, eels** mast • the lambs dams. It was sagest/Sadly tree that a E startha Is the prise of Coyle. cease had hams but trMob Wait be attributable to the elemEo olds ie the istesiliellea et • we _kkilet Er• of seise grow* by the satires of thetas., sad set =Trapeze& But sedentarily, with the low poises "Nib prevailed last year, the esseassptiou of Who 'Guth M bath issued of disishbed, es was the sere ; VW* bewever, night be it he ea the suppeoldes list "Mom bad bora asiellutsd he oaths, 'ad thee a pre lim of the rtes us width the Illahnerr ought to bays red abed had bees diverted be. the teet of the desists Is the fame While. Is wants sat be deolable le pus • &sty "a 'Mem at the moth Mss, bet II we peeper thee she reties mega is its alersdos should be warned Met seek might he Oa Nth hereafter, is eras thee they antis as this fay they ware triplly sapropead he end a result. TIM seassat of isles baptised be. the solosies bed thenseed One =Mk= of pseudo, while OM trrslee bad that* abed Is the ease retest, will* would stOriesthy asseest Er the !Meg Mot the duty. SENDING CONVICTS TO THE CAPE. Mr. ADDERLEY wished to ask the Cedar Secretary foe Ms Climbs if be wee rent is the maw le had gives to a Elam pm/ea—that the Coksieldellee bad aft Noshed tem, els thesterial fees the ishobilithe d the Othe of fta /1•1" Matalabit • wig stem resesealtense spiest esavises babe teat to Sh e NWT ; lad, if sae sreseseial had thee reserved, whether thew would be mg Atheism Is lay it ea the table Hr. HAW ES mid he had adentood the hoe. member to ash, the ether day, whether wry elatessairatioa had beta sthethei *an the Osthease of the Cape, with threats to the lateatha d'Mb, thrills Mss: he bad replied that, up to that so sot esseeriethaiss bed bees received ; sad that was the dot. Ether that te*, the Colonial " See had reruns es that wry. ethMet ; and they would hest part of the rims for whit* the boa. pedalo reeved. Is reply to a helm goods* frees the eases his. reember, Mr. HAWES odd ha essli tar so ether swim Wthod ever *Meld comunthisedeas had bees sale by the governor would ben pert if the Mom Sinai Er.As to the m eths dated which aaqq osmosis messerial or petition wee teethed be 'said sat at that rarest waswer ; bat if the btu. sionbee would pal Milani= a the piper, he valid miaow to satisfy Mat. THB POOR LAW BOARD. Mr. EMIR te aisle is the prow law bowl and Ma Maadmiral Ode yew P lAA J. RUSSELL nil *ss blelreasaMi lirsd, the Isle Mr. C. baler, whoa agesisled ee lbe head et ON Mod, bea ssio = s ez MY" MO dm Ohio et lb* galled ; sal Op wee ea 4N seaelikte le what be sea dewed asessesty. The valise bet also sem miss emelieralise ; bet be MI ask bases *at say Maeda; was resessiewlei. sad he OA at sweet OM say menial no ised= wesl4 be mods is dm front yew. _ _ EDUCATION O P ARMY OFFICERS. Mr. llWARriail; Secretary at War whether it was Ye Weard perseament to institute any szambiaties, as re eessatisaal ter desopsoassy, ea the adadesies of pa. ems whist to ware it elders tats the army ? Mr. FOX MAULS said that the Commeader4a-Obid bed delsemised Is reread a tot of dustier for carers =theirreamessemiedess fa the army. He this de pointy Mr was lardy geserally lowa ; It was inderded to al deo mppßed to the Cemateader.in- Chief hi ban their aemse pat down far esseatheleae, ia mast that they right be gregereda be • Wasilasi7 smile alseatha, to ee babe the semsairiseers. It was also labmied by iris Ones the Oimaisadir-is-Cidef to bate a mead ea decries, ea the remetlea of earn Elea the mak et essiga le Oat ef lievissant ; but thst exualsatioa win to be esitaly of a prehrienal disreeter—sed,Y, to ._.mime It Os Aar was thorroMiii7pee=l.l with Ss loin malmilmil spa Ida to bie it arid es • QOM% knew ea sum sod ether regreeste, sad if he thous. Ike deg of diem miardeg battalion. lira there was Is he a Oki sad Anal easabsties if the subaltern be fore be get lb essambelea ; that was to esseht ef a more earned esimiastiea to inattsee of military skill owl know. • sad be be the rat examinsties to width Use edger weed be seldelled. !lb Orme as Odereeder-la dist bed edged kis Ibis stem. te the dories et which as rdh rides bad be .. «adds he MN Mee pest, with the are welfare sr with addible adds/ ire eery. Meg the are ealselated t. «geed the redid« sad ✓ates d damn In the army. (Chem) Mr. WART asked whether Yore would be any objet. Ilea te kg the rules sad regards«, if they were drawn up, ea Id tabled the knee ? Mr. MAME was madras& to aaswer is the affirmative. REMOVAL OF TROOPS. Is sewer to Car. Ascruals, Mr. MAULS said that the gassed rale far p minim the temps was, that the meshy dried maks a seud m~ lirsegbest the essatry every year. It bad set bra dem* =Ty is tr a t esou thattegg h leastie, idbfi abibers=bizegas edited with mod the bar try is momme ell Imlimme Weld be seems" t a i mew dam is .«apt id cf the d pea «. lamer to seder quarts hem the same lommaseaber, seat tinagoesay beeeneks, end the west if peeper serma• meddles, Mr. KAHLE sill this was a matter width was is the power et the err reerlag ender of the Mot« EMIGRANT TAX IN THE UNITED STATES. In sneerer to Mr. Idersdr., Mr. HAWES led le woe ley hue (mad be wee Is- Mimi Is Ow twat Mere milkerfar the informatics) Ad de eyrsme mart glebe Hatted States lad decreed that di alias tmpsw.pea emieraate by the etre ',Water« mese abeeistely rild sad of se West. Is ressegusee, Yes dress would expire at one ; but what steps the cos rue seW take Is the metre he was not peeper« to say. la de deeesse leg eadd g eesalla. it. ebbe fora Lewd litga. els. as sew Immleares bed bees made te Omsk as deadliest ARMY ISTIELATIL Mr. F. KAHLE mil be biped this trim boa. realhart era bed Norm SR the eider ear_gelag fate essiedlse at espply, wadi set pets them. rho wile he wee pre lane yes t he _made of assoehlii it wee asseirey shard be ees as risible. Mr. ANSTIT said Set be did ad Do to be In the India at sae who hid ototrasted the paddle briars. eMsa (Mese, Ihsta.) He lise wield Minh« pike et bb nerd, V bea. arms did se Metres. Or. Dwwwit, M. Hvrn, sad Lord DIiIIIILANZIG pa of marhas. the west tats• dththii• llllll3 supply, ea whisk Mr. F. MAULS said that la Ibis le repro the bit vete is the army erimasse, arm* the amber a men te be «rimed is the. swim &eft the ewers per. he heeled the Oeleaddie wend ea tide, bras ma kart or grins. dew Ida its Mad Indskomee eilibit be ealserible many &so., hoe which be wield vidlingly have abstelied van i s s o t skis ass taw essmimam .eery kOmasama which it was In the pant et individual' is his situation to Abed, was wry saturaily apested by t im ir sia t ia rines ag Th i ta l e a t kr of sing hisk it to was 1P,44 1 . 11 In Els ". ouse e t hi t Mar n a own holuaturally to rovientho totambisit its arkinsiabrogn ibrelmostooda7nd inereliZiosuldi smorlais at what masa it was sawary to Iho hams ef dem westry should bo yrilrt to all these interests. sad to the pan' 'spat of. les wary, it did appear to her Kolmityte govarsoesat that sight be Minn has tho burden at Snake to 1 711; I gt necessary forwhibision 10.0410 an, god thdo, ;Ssfinatin the 411;44 . 4 400 Alb hi the d e g ie pe wn".llll" gied posed= of the Lilian UMW,- Jear the subs of mos horse was 113,84 6, 74 ,e r asmenssuck at the aka bower, of ths iatalligescs whin lues, from I ails, t i t4 s rllal do7 part of her a Malaioss, throe no oi Johnny, sametimg to 3,800 moo' and termposed. with regard to the ntsandm V( the 10,000 t is Moss nom by discharges an sonnies is the sluts is twasslies Rhos that was anon is, boworso, mimeiatslli- W oohed kegs lodis e dish ossioni k sommory Ih m a il r eg ibmdil Mins War eggintab thaws to ode one boo Mop is NW awastry, sod as it on wow • to maw strasettony the troop is %Mk itass that, instead of lailterglag 10,00 l son tae = should be hohn Is abost 5 000 an assordiaely snow had Mon gives to ash; onsallion to that OWE& Ia Wag won this .ashler of hoops, the Owomniont had Mt of di to ossolla rho position of the oirmoky to reagents its halm solatioas; ossonly, the maim upsthist ho As monfinalsa alms Ashen boa it Ss. mania ispoinsisse tktrddthsp had maim His wenn hg As wianatos of soar at Moss; sad hoothly, thomoinenass• dna a fares as would give a bowers, and air gelid to dew who were called es to sons is the couches. Whinged to the swat of kings affairs, sail, say pews wad soo—hw woad be Sow to admit— tlnt alliongh the endismost whin oxlstol at the *noon& of last psrlad mad away to • great oxtest--thana their thassnovas tho whin of thaws who felt mo o n , , wars so Law derostand with the danger of invasithe apse of deka ahead was sot sent as should induct this washy M be singly Indiana, orM toaar raisin &avast unpropand state. hear) TIN b ▪ sa oa. wisher lar ths West Bien of Yorksh , ire had stated that all the gswesmans of this country had fa sow dam back aramsa war to be the awn state of assiety. He Mad that this and be said. Is proposing the pre sent nabs, of ma as the mans of ties army, they were not bed by any otenerison with the amiss al the other states of Burns Bat they were lad by this oansideraties, that whin all around them appeared to be wattled, it wand not be • wits or prudent eansaaty In that house to have the weary in such a condition as to be unprepared to wet the dawns which might be made on it in the event of war isms* general in Europe. (Hear, hear.) Thou let them look to the colonias, and see the demands rash open that is their account. Haring taken some trouble is onsidariss the distribution of their troops over their widely diffused colonial empire, he must say that many of the clones were birely occupied and moan of them could scarcely be said to be In a 'tote of military defines at all. Bat, at the same time, all govern ment of this country had endeavoured to make the military axposditure on account of the °dacha, as light as it could be mask, Is the people of this country. If they wen to pre serve those colonies at all—if they win S. recognise their daises upon this costly far military protection and Wanes kat agrosion from wfthost—they must make up their minis Ti midatmis„ at least, the fora whisk they had is lbw in ansion Ho did not mean to say that in the amiss of tins anangessasto might not be made for diminishing that force, but, at pronsa as hr as everything could be salt, it wont Vs Bah or pant to diminish it. (Hear.) Ia Maim bad he mat garritoa now that they had in 1833. Ho honor UM as being • per in width a cos mints of thst house astern minutely into all the details of all their solanial telablishmants,and reported their opinion of esti They said that it would not be expedient to reduce the anion at Gibraltar below the amount at which it stood in 1833. It stood at the tans amount at present. In Malta the pairs in 1833 amounted to 2,488 men, which the sus mitt« reported was hardly salinient for the defense of that island. It ores now 2,700. There wore 3.090 men in the baba Islands in 1833; now there wore 2.700. In Western' Afetsa then were 462 men in 1833; in 1849 50, 600 ace. But this garrison consistod of West Inn regiments. ad it was maintained far the purpose of raniting the West In dian regiment.. Than wen 1,779 INS at the Cape of Good Hope en 1833 ; at pewit they amen tad to 4,200 ass. Bat there were reasons—and the Mum has. them but to well—why the army in that slaw hod has so considerably imoramsd sad he was dead, gang% they had been on nisi to reds& the amber nooses dew nun B,l3l—whin on the seazimina amend is 1847—t0 its protest numbs —suady, 4,200, yet he and not say that the anditima Art askew was sue as would enable tot S. wino the Mop there to say lower loan at west. (Mks the was Ives at present than ia 1833, but he nosed the, =en this was not a quarter in which they and Just sow papas to make any redaction. (Hoar ' bar.) Isosift to the circtunstattoss et Ceylon—to the papers Malaid on the table of the house--(hear, hoar Mr. Hums)—hem which he gathered this fact, On thin was sanely as osearrenim in India which did sot aiso shwaltanosely affect Ceylos ; and. looking to the MM. of India generally, he was distinctly of anion liM coq Ilmisatios of the garrison of Ceylon would be a emposias asp he this country to take. (Hear.) The amonoll of Map st lowa in Canada, Nova Scotia, and Nainsusilan, was 7,708. Mr. HUME—Doss that twine the Caaadian riflemen ? Mr. FOX MAULS—Yes, it Welshed the whole fora in the North America sonnies ; and althowit it might seem a large fora, yet, when they considered the gnat extent of territory over which it was wad, he did not think it solid be considered too high. It might hereafter be concentrated own than ft was at present ; and now that Canada was approaching a state of gnats vast:sent than it bad known for many yews, he trusted that they might be able he the course of Mos to reduce the garrison within that colony. The hen. member for the West Riding maid the other night that when they made an in crease far a temporary purpose, they saver Man beck to t r r iao tinal amount when the muss for the inseam was . They gradually did so. The number of troops in Canada, for instant., daring the nbsilion of 1838-9 was 13,826. whereas sow, to the whole of British North Ame rica, they only samintod to 7,7011. The gamins of Ber muda in 1833 was IMO ; at prawn it mos IPB. The gar rison of New South Woks in 1834 ersefotod of UM men ; in 1849, of 4,80 ass. Bat then it and be rossitostal that the oolaray of New Mahan had boss added does IBM and II logos soossony to Mad that colony against the snacks at a winks asi akin' body of natives to that sentry. This is the Manna the mann of troops in 1833 was • j t prawn it was 1.520. And when it was recollected that Ss ppoldiss attest nifty was not altogether friendly to IMO& Ms it mist be mina that, to reduce the gar rison below this sweat, would oat bo ids The games to Jossisn'inehrling the 7 , 46.7 ammentsd in 1833 to 4,o63asstja 1849-60 it waddle Thinumbor oftroops I. the West India *oboist , sodasin of Junin, was. is 1133, 5,281 ;• at point it was 4,906. Mktg a shorsas of 375 ass. A pains had ban onalibbsti the first tins is Hong Haug in 1848, in astananco with the opinions of many mercantile men connected with Chian ostmesons, who stated, in answer to two questions whisk had Man pet to them—bed, that it was absolutely osamary to hats a military pod in the China gee., tad, assoily, that the ban plasm fro its establishment was Haag Hoop The gasbag them however, had been refined hua 3,000 to 1,148 men. Upon this statement of fans he dam& As ansmittaa would agree with him that it would : i t il be su rsilost to »duos the colonial force below its pretest Ohara The next consideration would be nlll regard 't to the fors required for the main lines, of pas sad order at haw Ho was not NO of lass who had ever exhibited any awaits to as order it this cousay, or to ono in Sit tamary, by moans of a malty dowslien& Big noble Mon ohm a the head of the gevaiumost was on of the Mt who sold be taxed with say each sendsaost. (Hear. ) Bat at As sass time it was ~sissy r maintain within the ostiostry a whin amount of WNW, hese, to which thaw who con selsohod to onia--411soi who were embarked in ammo ad trade, sad thous who won engaged in the waft nposos generally—should ink hr protection and it Mass of tumult and ontrask. It was unman token a unitary hese whisk shallosppot tho matetrasy of Os assatry ta wiArtioal the ; s lawa spin re Oldfrawn ; if amodlitary hese was Mew what was necessary hr than inerposes so ammo we is any to exclaim spinet the IMAM who so nissol A. ink sa as je:r i m as wen thorns inkling's who ommoilines the Ink* spud the burden attaaadaa. (Haar, .) Now with mon to flee military fora at his., it asmand at the F 110•111111 Of 52,000 mat sash an i fi le. Of these elll t wee. iproterel la Zlswil sad Scotland, and k knead. WU regard to as troops I. anil lisslisod, they inn distribulot hr the most =at desamanthsturing wg thisidy papillae Mains of Ten sLawhire sad Inns in, of es that aa tads amonsit et mons asuman I. be 4 , 1 71= weld be sonssoin morprind whim ha told them that the agellinitss hir traps is aid of tha civil a:tensity won now so susses= winds roodissliso a duns the= nes Mar, boor 2) M 1848-40 thsy bad Wein Illan die 4Mtrig a ao, Theiffe_Wspeontk, Dominos, Wipe, tom on gnus Merest ocasioss—Gess, bissi—Aohlgassisr-Lyn Ralik, Leicester Notting bask**. _Tanta% Siteloinpos-Tetst,_ Birmingham, Din ky, Lens, Be slay, Dagen ter. an Fenn. Moo of tan application adeilhol • pesnlons sad waft= tsar, sod if temp won sa immadiacidy as the an, amphiats wen ask that no misidor mghestsd him (Hear, Ms) Mlash s phis amain tads plan same . that ago Isst As =s i ef anoparting the rasialas of tho Ma meals IP is is of shalt. Tho n r i Ewho with am ▪ sipsi the =pinion kr thit is snag Poo no oomph as spporMalp gspaniog *INN wile sinfoot; whit the Mbar Wenn as wami to ths gams sow mooting the bags as ho pospired to the snot sf has She an watheadc at the wenn in paths. ("Mar, Mir," sad laughter.) Forlossitaly thin was so mean; but whilst sash Wogs assunsi, suchmins wogs mak, how and the possmasst disponi wale f the hoop? (Har e ass.) It was nosmissy t e e l =a a arida amber of Mope to raannhandog Anion alai cow newish where MOsebasess might ha fig, sad be Mann to as a nos asostow as to annals Art ; basins is siosty-nins as set oif a Ma was• paeans was SIM hos we. (Hammy bert.) noes pia ponstiog nab; sad though hey might be tun to a stasis want. wee ass rise Went wpm swommy by sow atm thsewasis, yet snob tuna was in the end wise, Inch it A tha .silos of the pooh with sash other, ant the anent if Mad, was prenatod Ina the my fact of its Stag kaown that 1M traps won sear, and would be ready to sot U THE EXPEMikinTADAY EVE LING, MARCH 20.11849; seceissz y. ( , a lt i mr, Nov a with f : o ne :me ope i ir t yr e Mot the7ght hon. haroset M. L M Ibllnk tiMititt Mi..** the shiliilutit erre then mem Mies 46 ymse (M home th em nose stegiments bad amend doss se /mg es Si resell Oaths regiments la the soarer adenteel shenhi net be mied es.he Mrsojoit for lawn - tbsal teap end that =ay reins= to this esontry lulu at lease five yeous at home. tbeamt e n of the mug they bed Melarrived at de But if the oesillabla mitelimod the sommilies of the Mo. m :caber Si MesamMemed reduced tbnaissot of the erMS by 14,009 mes, that 'Felon of relief wadi bo destroyed. Os m im es. Mmt thes, be raid ihat VIM nom wore sot tall-i = i rtulti he wairaste2 be glades at the dis posal of the gemming= for the kWh* at die sonatry, QM elusive of the huge in MM. Ifs trilled, {heel.-., • t "' committee woad oat MO* to the prepeillea el Ms ban. gentleman, ido Mira WWI to So yob it the olooloor of men. Now whit Jeeps* to the other =WOW 4EO 7- - for the payment of time men I am! fa Midge at there and compuing them with theof votes, Mt year, Ibe must beg the committee to bear in mind *at it wee • gross vote, including the =reprint:Ms in aid ef last year, and not a net vote exelusivi of these appospria dons. The amount of this vote for 1848 9 wee 3471,4221. ho the year 1849-50 it was 3,669,58 8 1., beim a degrease of 801,8341. Of this 100,0001. was an amount of the East India Company. The next vote, No. 3, was for the staff. The gross vote last year was 172,8861. • this year it was 173,3761., being an increase of 4901. The n was an increase as the staff at home to the imams of 1,6061., and • domes en the, staff abroad to the amount of 1,1161. The pees veto hst year on account of the public depart ments was 96,50114 for 1849-50 is was 94,1991., bete l /a: r e; OrMeollll=. The out vote was that of the was a self-sappcating institution, and there feeCtilleeilmodea to the publics. This year it included an in crew of I,IW. ; but it did not come out of the =bile rammillamm The next vote was that of the Royal Military the mete last year =Jousted to 19,5591. • this year it ie wn,29lll., being • clemesse of 2611. The 'sit vote was es omen= el* yeomaary. Last year it was 30,0001; this yeas only 86,0001. This arose from the feet that the eye- Ma every g i M owe li v lk e e to have an 'Solent iaspectien of irs ealling don together on permanent duty. r that he discipline of the yeoseary was repined upon last year, he thought that it be t this roar to put it on parade, by white mem • cueing of 14.0001. would be effected. The mint vete was he distiaguidted services, in which there was • demo* of SRL TM ant war the pay of amend "Seers. The mien= huh= bets Is 1848.9, 76,0001, 65,0001. was the real (harp for 184..60, bane a decrease of 11,0001. • but there elms within he vste this year a charge of • rather sitranr &nary nature, which hoe. memben would find mislaid la a note to the estimate. In 1818 the late General Many was promoted from the rank of lieutenant - genera l to the took of major-general. A dispute rime between that officer and the War-office, as to the amount to which he was entitled; and in comequencet of that dis pute General Mur ray refused to draw any pay whatever. Tho amount due up to 1848 remaining in the Exchequer, after the general's death his executors put in • claim for payment, and there was therefore included in the vote a charge en that amount amounting to 13,9081. He now came to votes 10, 11, and 12, which embraced the halt par list; vote 10 being the " mnritd fall pay," vote 11 the " half-pay and military allowances," mad vet 12, "the foreign half-pay." The public ought to be =that this department, which was commonly called weight of the army, had been most scrupulously attended to by the successive heads of the War-ofte In 1821 the Assn of the army on full-pay, unattached pay, retired-pa half-pay, and foreign half-pay, amounted to 17,426 ; In 1849, the number was reduced to 10,614, a dininatlen of 6,912. The charge for the unattached pa y, la 1822, was 182,0001. ; in 1819 the amount was only 65,0001 , shawl= a reduction of 117,0001. The charge for the retired full-pay, in 1822, amounted to 1445,2351. ; it was new 68,0001. The half-pny charge in 1822 was 870,8111. ; it now amounted to 400,0001., showing • reduction of 470,8111. The charge for the foreign half-pay was, In 1822, 97,0001. ,• it was now ream= to 30,000 L, • diminution of 67,0001. The whole decrease in them vets. floor 1821 up to the present period was no his then 745,0001. a slier proof that this department of the pubis expesdMaw bid been most narrowly watched by anseendve goveroseste. The next vote—vote 15—wea for inipardeosee: the gum mesa of which, having been lest year AWOL, was now Mood to 3.5,0001. The vote for the 110;rwee last year 1,248,8091., this year it was mi showhig • deureem of 2 4,7671. hoduded in this vote these was mee Mee whisk required upholds& It wee 5401. as the " Isolable charge to be hearted its of madam in !each." It was the Mimed= eivr , .. =rasa* te modest es "Seer to examine into the state of the to Ildliellorth America, with a view of h IWO them a *Car body to that which had been lbws the ouriensioners in this country. At present the Nor* Mori.= peanioners were paid through the cow miseariat ; and it night be that there wen may hefts is tt: as payment al ems tip tie those whisk hod teem i Sore threes k t h e et OM Tarmac The effiese who hod bees molested or Heehaw of the duty was Capt. Tamil, who was well acquainted with everything relating to the =sena pensioners. The only reunialog vote was for the tion allowswses, in which *we was a decrease of VOL The entire demean in respect MO' non-effective anise was 48,0291.; sod if that were added to the 330,6961.. old* was the amour el Meruw in the GSM tire senile% the Meal berme in the gross charge for this year, am eempered wlinhat of last year was 378,6241. Such was re papeed ed the gmoraniest , Stir the pro* yea& But, theta, ii might he mid tkat the 'halal' it this yew freight to ham hem regulated by the standard of 1836. He wee glad te SA list me be as the number of men was con cerned, ems the hem member he Montrose propose& to diminish, net stedikoly, lent gradually—(" bear hear, " hem Hr. Hume ). Last _ per he went into a compariso n a the difference between' 1881 sad 1848 ; he would now venter* up= a similar moped* se between 183.; and 1849, and he hayed to show that he the maintenance of the army the ad dition whisk had bus meads to the burden of taxation was, in het, very math In 1835 the grew charge in the army estimates was ai l;111. 1 : for 1849-50 it was 6,142,2111., Me is** sit 186,0001. Bat since 1835 many all ditieml dime bad placed on the army estimates with the ossioreasse of and after mature deliberation by the house; end he would almost itahrtake to show that if the alibis= had set boon mad& if, for Mews& 60,0001. a yea bad net bees grated as poundage on per lens, if the had bees se charges for military phone, is esnesquenes of imprisionsent being substituted in imp losses fee ecepowal panishmeat, for the education of the ma, for libraries, and for other ineements, the estimates of 1835 would have been oven highe r them those of 1849. (Hear, hear.) The Moreau bees rowed by an eadea riser to keep the effective service in the highest state of efficiency • while cure had bees taken that the ram-effective service sho'xild he kept as low es was soosistent with the chime of justice. He admitted that since 1836, ala .ru addition had been made to the staff of the army ; that if the =proportion of Often to men was not maiateined, the of military power would be lost. Amongst the ad ditions made since 1835, were an increase of pay to the adju tants, on the reommandation of the military and naval commission of 1840 ; an allowance of 4,0001. this year for married soldiers, who were formerly in the habit of sleeping in the barracks with single men, but who now, the number being limited of comes by the army regulations, were al lowed to have lodgings away from the barracks ; 38,0001. too otalloo7...znim intended to obviate the nee= dip Ow guilty of military offenses to hied with sem* hlons ; 3,0001. for spirituel eminewes Is isms catholic. ; 2,6001. for regimental laskle ia lsalks I sad kW for grataitits for good conduct. Theseseunt of ths additions made noes 1836 was =; mod if he west fully Into the comparison, he IMIr *at the goiorment were maintain a larger 1 des new this in 18111, with • very small comparative "M- I dea le the buries ellantion. He would now allude to the fir=email= of the army at home and in the colonies. is bis Mod a paper drawn up by Capt. Tellooh, dhowbg the aware mortality per thousand of the troops ellefin all situations. At home the average mortality en i es yeses previous to 1836, and of ten years from ISM to 1846 , was as follows :—ln the household cavalry, in lb; 7 years peeseding 1836, the mortality was 14 sad S-10the pa thousand ; in the 10 years from 1836 to 1846 It was 11 ate-tenth, showing a reduction of 3 four-tenths par theseseut Is the Dragoon Guards the reduction of the meetelity is the second period, es compared with the first, was 1 eseaisth per thousand; in the Foot Guard*, 1 cue- SU ;, in the regiments of the line, not quite 1 per coat, It was, however, of more importance, perhaps, to ascertain the ssai r a m amadition of the troops abroad. (Hoer. boos.) Oa that est sot he was happy to my he had full information. Ia • of twenty years—from 1816 to 1838—the mar taw a Jemmies was 120 sew per thousand. During MS and 1846 varions changes were introduced in the Wes{ Indies with ralmenes to the soldiers; including the [ slallies of the salt dist, and the improvement of the diet geseselb, and the neseral of the barracks from the vicinity et the sea to higher mad healthier situations. By such meows as seensese impremetest was effected, mere particularly la Jemmies, where the mortality was reduced from 121 deaths pm theresmi to 66, a diminution of 65 per thousand. In Ile Wlsilweed and the Leeward Islands, there was • de mean et 9 B.lothe par thousand ; in Gibraltar, 21. In Malls there was very little change, about 11-10th. In the lambs Islands the decrease was 9 7-10ths ; in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, 17-laths ; in Canada, 3 5-10ths ; in Ett. Hakim, 18 8-10tha ; in the Mauritho lit 3 ; in ten, 214-1 W New Sout h In N South Wales and Van Diem ' 1; wilift Is Me Caps of Chad Hope the mnrtalityl:ad us impeas mey little charge. This improvement, whisk lad Imo awed at very little expense, elderly through mead hem the rbleity of the ma shore and =proven.* in the Mk= or the soldiers. could sot, he thought, hil a ttit: =iustiftelleo. (Hear, hear.) Had deaths taken nn to 1249 la the same peepordes as d ig deb, the mop would within - the period lave her I . ; 2 lA* _men, instead of 1,080 ; so that them had bets is that Man i a sesiu de f MO lives. Is the WWl ward and Leeward the mein within the ems period had be OS lives ,• fa Gibraltar, 364' is Nolteh e 4 * i t the lodes We. He would sot Wary *a by wig the whole eateesey ; he atuuli ammo - thei hiliM maretelity gess ca lo the Mesh3lll MIS* as it dii hem NM to ink Ms hine esseelod by SAO the meted mortality. Mash ham ! ) Tbm aka llelless et ems had been saved MOS raft bit Mil te the ealamitoes yid tallia Ml* °l = Porelfaram bad seen fit to sillekffity beep la Huh/Mess baby the past year. A setae hog promised.) hod given =dew that on M eddeltV= move far emtain lour= Nw, if the sailed! ponilliii In his seeds, he *mid net oiled to give Memo of "Me =eft* is tank and die of the monies oimpaides MI die 79nd ant Nith Renhesno whoa= arrived he arehaiese and of the amber et deaths had near= in eadi ; but, hp hie own pert, what bt deeply gr ete n tadist bothmipmeth in .these t dumtao gine: 4 r, be 'peek& A . regu what tr i ly a rithis lotd• frogfthergregi the menet hM swarth bola Mau *Ratite' in dithrent parts mf the meld, sad whilst they oontimed to send their mi nute to the Was Win, those rrnimeots would be odds& to visitathr uL limiler Se these 'whia bad dented thou who Avery possible mean had been adopted C lc rgdsr .d the West bedis station as bealthy as possible; the satsuma wide he had just made showed with what ene emu& Ads bei boss attended. It had been stated that the MOWN' Is goselita had been peculiarly severe, owiag to the position of the St. Aatt's Barrack in Which the tr were gainers& To show, however, that the position wet sot in ordinary times aa unhealthy ern he a m on g ve that he had asoutained that the surlalityst the troop In 1843 was 26 per cent. ; in 1844, 26 per cent,- it Leto, 3 per coat. ; in 1846, 2 per cont. ; while in 1847.48,1 when the fever begaa it was 7 per mt. The governess.. bed Issued a circular later to all the officers col.- - **West ' s at; WRitroall 41. ' V report rain - 7te sn ly aill as i Po what sanitary predations shoji be taken to preartee of the mom in the different islands. to Barbados* there was no emMthee to be obtained higher than 1,000 feet, and barracks at that elevation would not, in the opiates of medical men, remove the troops above what wee called the deeding surface of the fever. In Antigua' and Barbados. the highest accessible ground had beat oblmined. It had been "eked whether any case of fever had 'centred in the 72nd Regiment prior to the 66th tz er s enzed in use th e e in n g eighbourrod h ; the inference en title thrsametenes that the 72nd hatl t n:n t a it tt w ac a f i ced ril gow i l that raised a question will* was yet disputed amongst me dical men—namely, whether this fever were epidemic or not. On that point he would observe, that the 88th Regiment having bun attacked in St. Ann's barracks with the yellow fever, it was afterwards encamped on the same ground as the 80th allselied , sad amongst the 7th lonsillos, in the Menthe at the sense time, no case of beer occurred. As re garded the expenses of officers fir medloel attendance, any little mains, incurred on going under canvas was provided fee by the ordinary field allowance. He had aeon- Mined that the number of medical officers available for duty in 1848 was as follows : in Jas., 11 ; in Feb., 11 ; in March, 12; in Aril, 12; in May, 12; in June, 9; in July, 9; in Aug.. 9; in Se t., 9 ; in Oct., 10; in Nov., 12; and in Dec., 9. The moral elbow had power to send for u many more u he theesed, bat ma aims radical officers must have been sallisithe he about 1,300 new. It had been said that GPM Barak, did net amonsp the men because be had aft :the nesessury powers for that purpose. Oa • report being made by the medical men as to the necessity of encampment General Barclay would have immediately ordered that it should take place ; sad he would here remark that he had been informed that the general himself daily visited the men in their warde, going from bed to bed, and exposing himself to danger while encouraging thou who were labouring under an attack of lever. Something had been said se to the desirableness of removing the regiments attached. He thought it would have been very bad polity to remove these regiments and substitate for them ethers. It appeared from an account which extended up to the 9th of February that there were at that time only two cues remaining in the hospital. The next point he had to touch on related to the general condo& of the army daring the pal year, and there was, he felt oureale, no part of the history of` the army in which the ham would take more interest in than that which related to the moral conduct of the men. Indeed, after ell that the legislature had done for the army. the house had a right to expect that this body of men would exhibit, upon the whole, a satisfactory result in pint of behaviour an d '' morals. He had not been able to collect informa -1 don from every station where troops were quartered, but he was about to show what the results of four months were, and he would take the months of June, July, August, and September, in the last year, for that purpose, and state what had been the conduct of the army that was stationed in Ire land; when the troops were urged to great hardships and privations from being crowded to barracks and living under camas which might have been expected to have given rise to gr eat discontent and consequent misconduct. The num ber of Mope in Ireland in 1848 was 28,324. In the month of June . the proportion of corporal punishments was 1 in 3,149. In July, 1 in 3,106. In August, 1 in 3,099 ; and in September, when the number of troops was increased to 31,343 men, the proportion of corporal punishments was 1 in 2,406. These facts were calculated to prove that the good conduct of the army depended upon the care that was taken in providing the men with means for improving their and with healthful recreation ; and the house would wry *ay feel proud in having by its, well timed maid- ISM isstributed to the excellent training of this line body of sum He would add to the statements he had abeady meth, the fact that there had been confined in primp daring the pert year an avenge number of 784 men, end that the cost of their keep whilst there, 14,8011., had been repaid by stoppage' out of their pay. The Migrof serious offences that had been committed a a jwilged of by the fact, that 21 caste of solitary con flooment mil of corporal pun ish ments were registered as bar- N 6 oLeneted, of which 13 were for the aggravated offence of ths governors of prisons and their own cffices. fiteele, however, offered a satisfactory proof that the starts math by the house to improve the moral condition of the army had been amply rewarded With respect to the measures taken for providing for the education of the officers tai men, he was happy to say that the time had arrived at whisk having trained schoolmasters for the purpose, six of the persons so trained had been sent to take charge of gar rison schools. He hoped the system of training teachers would ultimately extend itself to the whole army, so that whim • corps marched from one garrison or barracks to .serer, it would only prove to be a change of scene and sot a 'image in the system of teaching, which would be epos one uniform plan. He had now gone through all the topics which the estimates presented, but there was one other task which he hod prescribed to him self, namely, to refute the finest, and stardoms made against the officers of the army by • ret of individuals who styled themselves the Liverpool Financial Reform Asso ciation. (" Hear," and • laugh.) None of the offieers in the army had the slightest objection to the most rigid scru tiny being Insti tuted into their emoluments. The system of paying officers and of making up their allowances was quite beside the question, for the government was responsible for that ,• nor would the expenditure be objected to if fairly seratiaised. But as the pamphlets of the Liverpool leiseasial Reform Association were neither fair nor just, and as they tended to infint infinite in, rely not only on the army, but also on other aselise, be felt bound to say • few words on the subject. ' The menneittems had attacked chiefly the 'Mem of clothing the army. Surely that might have been done without im puting unworthy motives to the officers (Hear.) The system had ben is operation upwards of 140 years, but if it was liable to unsure, that might be done without charging the colonels and quarter-matters of regiments with la, mg their heads together to change the patterns of regimental mesmerise in order that their profits might be enhanced by throwing aside half-worn things. Centeeitsses had bombed into this subject. There was one in 1716 —ethers in 1798, 1808, and so late as 1833, when a esemittse of the house Game to the unanimous resolution that the mama system of clothing the army wes more ern amiss' gad better gouda than any other, and therefore that it ought met to be shoosed. It was h ard therefore to charge ea the &thing mismels the responsibility of • system width had stood** mutiny of four successive committees with complete messes. Bat he was sorry to observe that the Liverpool financial ,;Mares committee did not confine them selves to the 'MOM of their inquiries. The whole tone of their paidlossisms was calculated to lower the odi ous ia the Mimetic& of the soldiery. (Hsu, hear.) The army was said by the writers to be kept up for the purpose of providing for the younger sone of the aristocracy. Such publications were dangerous in the extreme to the constitatioa of the army, and to the existence of good order In the country in general ; ter if by say un foreseen accident the soldier should lose confident* in the officer who commands hies—if he relaxes in his observance of discipline, then be had no hadtatien in wily that the army. would be little better than an armed rabble, and the sooner it was got rid of the better. But who would be the first to suffer under such cir cumstances ? Not the officers nor the landed gen try. Bat the inhabitants of cides and town where, in stead of having a well-conducted and orderly soldiery, there would be found an undisciplined and ungovernable body of men, trained to arms and ready for the commimisa of emu sum. (Hear, hear.) He had made these ethervatime en no hostile spirit to any inquiry into the whole gassoiss of army expenditure, but, on the contrary, with every diesel. Ma to go into the subject with these who wished to ermine Into the army expenditure. The Liverpool Pimmulel Reform Association ought, however, to un due their inquiries with same reference to thi feelinp c 4 athsz e aid above all they ought to bear in mind that the pub., depended upon maintaining that respect to the of an that discipline amongst the soldiery without whisk the army would be a disgrace to the country instead of being an honour to itself and a terror to its foes. (Hear, hear.) He begged to move that 103,264 men be voted for the service of the army during the ensuing year. The Commute having put the quake, Vise. DRUBILLNRIG Gagg ed to ask the right hoe. gen tleman whether he had any action to lay on the tables of the house • copy of the letter surgeon Simpson, of the 66th regiment, which in begin* • protest against** treatment of the troops and the officers at Barbados* during the time the yellow raged there. Mr. HUMS said that the statement of his right hon. friend was satisfactory to the hone. in all that regarded the amulet of the army, and the happy results that had attended the abolition of the brutal system formerly prevalent in therm ay. He had always maintained that if the "oldie( was better treated be would become a better member of 'eddy, and the result had proved the truth of ids pralithen. It was • great satiebetion to him to have miebi fo othellag this great purpose. He had sever made light of the services of soldiers and sailors ; nor had he ever isles' he the outcry against the standing army. He did most dm,* cmgratulate the hoots on the alma ties of in the army—and on that ground he ma. owned entirely fa the views up:earned by his right hem Mead. The country owed mach to the soldiery ; and he, as the must my that he wee pleased to find that the endure= of the house to eve the treatment of the men bed bun imemoMlA tamilmled W of his honourable althorn Mende there who bad osaildently asserted that the diefigline el the army amid sot be maiatained without having memo to severity. He wee glad that time bad dispelled their deinsicms, and that kis right hon. friend led suirmed hid testim ■ Osgood effects resulting from Oh fmpmlaai ;tangs Hi L amt. however, insist epee the meelmes et the healthy sad hemostat remea of theman when not 'en daty, for if those were neglected they would mints other memo ter dimipatiog their spars hoar". He had formerly propmed books and lnatruetior, but be had been solemnly moth.f the danger of instructing the soldiery. $e never had entertained but one opinion on this subject, namely, that instruction was alike valuable for black and white, &r soldier and civilian, for rich and poor, and on that ground he had rather have an educated army than a soldiery such as the troops in some of the foreign states, who were only governed by the moat brutal principles: He hoped the system would be continued fa the British army; be should never grudge the tr:iiing expense which it necessitated, and which wee more than repaid by the re sults. His right boa. friend had made some observations on the Liverpool Financial Reform AssociatiOn. He was not a member of that body. (Hear.) If he had been *resident there he would have bsth, but he bad laid it down as a rule not to go beyond his own legitimato limits, within which he was ready to join any amociation for the good of the people. ("Hem, and a laugh.) His right hon. friend slght very advantapouly have left out of his speech all his allu• dons to the Llve rpo"l Financial Reform Association. That association had done great god. They had opened eyes of the country to theeenormity of th e establiph: mints o f t h e constr., He badoften heard it the man who made two blades of gram grow ;Cm one only are+ before, was a benefactor to hie country ' end upon Wit principle if the Liverpool Associa t ion could make a Ave pound note go as far as a ten-pound note, they would merit the thanks and gratitude of the country. (Hear ) But what was the charge against the Liverpool Financial Reform Association ? Why, that they had charged the colonels of the army with being tailors. . . Mr. F. MAULI—I said the charge was that the colonels had combined with qautermeatette in order to compel the men to change army necessaries half worn oat for new regu lation nuessariet. Mr. HII2dR admitted that if this charge had been made it was a great mistake and an injustice. (Hear, hear.) He ought to know something about the clothing of the army, for it was in 1833 that he moved the appointment of the committee on the whole subject of army clothing. Sir Henry Parnell wu opposed to that system, but all the evidence given in the committee was against him, and accordingly the resolution referred to by the right hon. gentlemen was unanimously agreed to; the reason why there was no division on this, or indeed on any other resolution in the committee was, that the officers examined were all of them so desirous to state what they knew, and also so anxious to put an end to militny and naval sinecures, and In general showed so good a disposition, as to render him sell and Sir H. Parnell unwilling to disturb the unanimity of the proceedings. Still he maintained the opinion that the present system of clothing was unfair to the otrele, and that it placed them in an anomalous and invidious position before the country. But so fez from the publications of the Liver pool Financial Reform Autociatien doing harm, they would' effect good, provided they only stuck to the truth. ("Hear," and a laugh.) The slat...men% referred to by his right hon. friend was an accidental error, originating in the system of clothing, which it very properly censured. He was not, however, disposed to quarrel with so useful and honest a body of men as the Liverpool Financial Reform Association for a mere error. With respect to his right hon. friend's statement respecting the health of the army, it was to be hoped that some statistical tables on this subject would be prepared for parliament, as they would be highly valuable. He used to be laughed at when he fonnerly asked for such documents, but Lard Hardinge and other officers had subsequently admitted the full importance et the question, and that was ample satisfaction to him. His right hoc. friend had been very candid in his statement of the rea son why so large a force as 103,254 men was required. He (Mr. Hume) had often alleged the same resew" but their truth had always heretofore been denied. His right hon. friend stated that there were four reasons for maintaining the force at 103,254 men. The first was the state of foreign affairs. Mr. F. MAULE—I said the aspect of affairs abroad. Mr. HUME—Foreign and abroad were the lame thing— at least he used the word in that sense. England had suf fered already more than could be described by her inter meddling in foreign affairs. If there was any declaration that gave the people more artisfaction than they would have felt front another it was in 1830, when Earl Grey de clared that the basis of his administration would be the non-interference principle. He could trace the origin of six hundred and eighty millions of debt to the meddling in foreign affairs since 1792. That meddling had saddled the country with a perpetual annuity of 19,000,0001. So that the principle of 1830 was a good one ; but it had been forgotten. A gnat portion of the naval and military expenditure of late years had been caused by intervention. His hon. friend, the member for the West Riding, had gone into the facts, into which he would not follow him. But, if foreign interferede were let alone, millions would be raved. He recollected Mr. Canning sayiog, when he sent 5,000 troops to Portugal, that he would not have done so had he not had a good battle-holder, evening thereby that them troops were not wanted in England, where neverthe less they were maintained as a surplus force. He objected to a surplus force. There was no object in maintaining such a force ; and the mere fact that there was a spare body of I troops which might be detached and sent away without im pairiag the defences of the kingdom, was often a stimulus and an incentive to intervention. The second reason for maintaining the number of men was, because the colonist wanted troops to protect them. Lit the colonies pro vide for their own protection. Where was the country in Europe which could afford, mach lees dare to atteek any of the British colonies and if ea where the necessity of =up bodies &troops there? The Canaan had now me governments, so had essay other colonies where large regiments were stationed. If be bad the power be would withdraw every soldier from the colonies, save theme brialag the body gaud of the governor, who, as the Tema sedative of royalty was enti•led to that mark of reaped By them seerns a million of money would be saved. The re serve which was maintained for the change of boors in the colonies was far too great. Supposing they required 40,000 men, who were relieved every ten years in rotation, a reserve of 4,000 men would suffice to effect this. He, therefore, objected to the number et troops re quired for the aloud. I. The next item in the list of his right he.. friend was the quota of troops necessary for the home service. He must confess that he had always entertained a belief that there was a meted proportion of the whole force which was expressly maintained for the purpose assigned to It by his right hon. friend, but it had always heretofore been denied that any such intention or purpose existed. His right hon. blend's honesty and candour had however, awed him from any trouble in again arguing th is point, imd boniest ask the house whether it was not a very serious matter when they cams to reflect that there were 20.000 masa employed in the home service more than there had been in the years 1835-6. And this solely to preserve the peace beans. He would go as far as any body to maintain the woe of the community, but the real question woe, " what b it that renders the people of England discontented?" What was it that rendered a home army necessary le keep them in submission ? He had always bulked upon Lighted as governed by a civil govern ment. Indeed, it was the boost of Queen Elizabeth, when inked where were her guards, that an her subjects were her maids s . It was for the government to consider whether the Crwere to be ruled by their allegiance, and their love Itbeir sovereign and constitution, or by the bayonet. The people looked to the civil power, but he was sorry to my that the magistracy were too ready to have immediate resort to the military on occasions of public disturbance/. He would admit that there were many very good men but there were also amongst them many very excellent old women • and be too often found that if even a eat stirred and disturbed& heap of straw, troops were immediately sent for by the magistrates to dispel the phantoms they had conjured up. He hoped the government would discountenance such applications by refusing to secede to the request of those who Made them. The discontent et the people caused these mani festations, and they would only be satisfied with reform in their representation, and reduction in the expen diture. The tuning made by the oedemas* of the number of arms furnished by that department gave the fol lowing remits. There were 185,000 men under arms in the realm, not including the yeomanry. In addition to these there were ,11 000 Irish police, 12,000 English metropolitan and provincial police . making the whole number of men em ployed is the land service (for he excluded the navy in this colculation) to be 200,000. In bringing forward his amend ment he was quite aware he might be accused of a desire to reduce the number of men too mach, and for that reason he would state the grounds upon which his amendment was based. It might be said that a reduction of 14,000 men wee too great, but it was only en approximation to the number of men employed in 1836 6. In the three years comprised within 1833 and 1836, the average number of men was 86,547. In the three years comprised within 1845 and 1848, the average number of men was 106,672. He wanted to go back to the avenge of 1838. The artillery, also, had increased since the pesos. There were 9 battalions of artillery at the close of the war in 1815. There were 12 battalions now after thirtg.tens 7ossepeane. He thought that he had made out a case for the amendment he had to pr me, and all he could say was, that if the house went with him in his motion, the effect would be to reduce the ex pmditure of the country by 94 millions, perhaps 114 millions; and he would promise hon. members =tthat if they joined hint hq would soon it the duties on malt, hope, bricks, soap, windows, and paper. What more could be promise ? Many of the prophecies which he had made had been sown, fulfilled ; and he called upon the house to give him a hub trust for the future. Grant this reduction of the kale, and there would immediately be a reduction of the amstent of taxation, and with that reduction of taxation the of the country would be improved, and we should butter prepared for war. Next year he would come down Mame reductions. (A laugh.) If he could only get a Association in every town in the country re , the be hope; he was beginning to be a little sau rian*, and, thereon %he now moved to reduce the whole Umber of men by 14,254. Mr. DRUMMOND certainly thought there was an bemmeity of extravagance in all them matters, but Jowled whether it was possible to go back to a Add ch. fiedi Th t e more the manufacturing petrels- Ed the more must the mltery "force le laideard. e magistrates on the one hand called meat sesethap of the enlightened constituency, and on the ether bend Ter, wisely called out the troops. Jest in the proportion se thew merchants and manufacturers were cowards at one moment, io they were bullies at another. They were the very people who led the country into war. Let them make what apologies they pleased before they came to the ground, bet when they were on the ground, let them stand to it. Do not enter into these quarrels, or do net grudge the expense. It was said that civilians were the beet judges how to defend a country; that it was for the tax payer, not the military man, to decide what wea the proportion of men necessary for the ahem of the °matey ; but be said that they were not competed judges of that ; that it was a matter of which they were es sendelly ignorant, and the house must put their confided, L peewees who must et necessity be better informed then hoe. gentlemen on the other side. The right hon. gentle man the First Lord of the Admiralty bad truly said that the Mid for preferring a certain number of sailors and soldiers now, was not with reference to 1835, b u t w i th he general state of Butepe. That was the only r t ir t _ statesmen and of common sense, and.of all the the world, these Manchester gentlemen had rift th e satisfactory proof of their incompetency to loin ea 72 He believed that there was not a more upright man te a hon. member for the 'West Riding, but he was utterl 4kb pisteeeg ep y of forming an opinion of the gener a reps—of the general state of every continental nation. 1, ma was so prominent in his prophecies, or m refuted events. He had said that the French were not deus e , 3 7' w e :4 ° b u nt thiss it was h e i o . v w id hi en c t h th th a e t y th av e :mead ealoewhetla with the greatest delight was a period ofdes2 Mr. M. GIBBON said that the hone had been tail • year that it was impossible to spare a man from the mat force; but his hon. friend, the member for the West had predicted that on ban investigation tarn could be s p ar " thi tie prej . ..ct of the governnot tnat nts hon. friend's prediction was a right one. Haim , friend went farther, and said that then wadi bs u 6; reductions in the military and naval establishment. 16 hon. gentleman who spoke last had told the k uu that persons in the naval and military envies au the only pawns competent to form an episi os the force of the country. If be wanted to noe l b.: a regiment was to be used when brought into ths r t i et how a ship was to be beaten off a lee shore or now t the enemy, then he would apply to a protessiocal be did not apply to a profeesional mtn to He wher it for the safety of the country. He regesa u t ut. P tar t' °" :7naval men as public servants, and they were nu be the only parties consulted as to bow many of Uin ta , eablishmenta the safety of the country required. One el iu diMealties of the executive government was to senor appeals of these profeasinal persons; and if it were en what the hon. member called the Hu ealtool, but which he (Mr. Gibson) called a s rising sense of the country, it would be isoo br the executive to resist the appeak departments. They must take care they did not any a s k expenses one farthing beyond what the real necessities the ono try required. He should support the mike e( j e t hoe. member for Montrose, mainly en this ground, tie thought no answer bad been given as to the neei l ft tl maintidnies so large a mili•ary force is the colonies. b, highest authorities had stated that the dune, of oldies the colonies were reduced to those of mere pallcemeq, y the colonies could find their own pollee. He cried committees had been empowered to Inquire into the quoi n of force , that they might be able to report to the house m a Intelligible reason for the amount of force that rie kept up. - - Mr. J. O'CONNELL said that, by acceding to the j ut demands of Canada, half the force had been ?Quid, at the same might be done in Ireland, where 16,000 or NA out of 26,000 men might be reduced. Mr. WOOD referred to a petition which he bad pratttttd on the subject that the militia staff of the country Woo, made available for the purpose of meanie; m a army, and that the recruits might be kriA into a special corps, similar to those of pg. sionars. Notwithstanding what had been said by th hon. member for West Surrey, that government Institut judge in these matters, he was inclined to think that rum meat were right when they threw the responsibility ag tk house. He regretted that the hon. member for West had adverted is the probability of French invasion as mai as he regretted his allusion to the Manchestersebool. there was anything more distressing than matte, was the attempt to divide the people of the may into classes. His belief wu that no country ealdpri a which had not a landed and commercial population sob union and harmony with each other. As to military me* an important fact had been communicated to bin brt French gentleman holding a dirlomatic situation itki country—vie., that during the reign of Louis Philippe a, price of a substitute for the conscription had doubled. Ws that any proof of a warlike disposition ? Did it not tie that we had gone too far in regarding the French wee natural enemies ? It had been well said by the cstboktmt of England: Never may ill office or fell jealoory Thrust in between the faction of thew kingdom, Make a divorce of their incorporate learns ; Vat English may as French, French Enelklissem Receive ea ch other, God speak this, amen. Mr. V. SMITH observed that government eldi wish the estimates to be argued is the ban et else they would have no answer to give who desired an increase of the leftism,. Ib question of the colonial force stood on a daunt belfq, He did not wish to re-open the question of frecteshas this much he would say, that having adopted it venue.. a necessary consequence, alter our colonial data la system bad been eatablished on the principle of whim markets, and now that exclusive markets wen Ong there could be no motive for extending our oolodelmim (Hear, hear.) To Canada we had given self ginname, and yet we still maintained as large a btu ties as in any former year. They must look et dr oh mate separation of that colony as a probsib wig and should so arrange matters as, that semi hit it would, the separation should be effected k • amicable manner. (Hear, hear.) That being the w all that was now done in the way of military was merely waste and extravagance. (Hear, bee= the Canadians become discontented with our ash, see ministers prepared to ask the people of this swersek means to put down the insurrection ? If they wee,hla Bored that the people of England would Maw the uses (Hear, heir) There were then only two ems LOWEY the sending of troops to the colonies was abselatalysomelln In infant colonies, troops might be required to pesisdes settlers from the aborigines, but that necessity woe4 sdi as the immigrant population became more dose, Web we sent convicts to colonies troops wadi be weimmylso strain them. But he would entreat government tepee before they determined upon sending convicts to ow WWI (Hear, hear.) It was a great object to encourage 00 Lion, but depend upon it emigrants would not go te piss where they would be mixed up with a population ofungli (Hear, hear.) He regretted the ignorance that prevailed upon colonial minute. (Hew, bow l.) Int been for that ignorance his right hon. friend wall nellm come down last year and asked 1,100,0001. for &wealth nobody knew anything. (Hear, hear.) He believed le when the papers referring to that war were prodeng would be found that a more lavish system of Mao cure had never been carried on. (Hear, hew) fel what had we gained by that war ? A wider WI and the district of Natal, which Sir P. Maitland, h Grey, and Sir Henry Pottinger bad successively proud to be one most difficult of retention. Then, we lad oohed Latium, because Sir James Brooke bad written a *ln book of travels respecting it, and 12,0001. had been Mts. for it last year almost unobserved. But that would not k the last vote. (Hear, hear.) They would soon hear alit attempt to take possession of Borneo, and, of coos, fa creased demands would be the consequence. They shell either allow the colonies to regulate their owe affairs, aro that house should adopt a more rigorous mannikin. lb should not further trouble the house, as he had merely Tim to give his opinion as to the only effectual way in whin sY army estimates could be reduced. Mr. RICE concurred in thinking it advisable that do colonies should be made to maintain themselves ; bat Ur capability should be first ascertained. He was an sinus for reduction in the estimates, but thought that to take of 10,000 men in the army, and 6,000 in the navy, was used as could be expected hem government in the pretest plo tore of affairs. Capt. BOLDERO thought that the only way in Min troops could be spared from colonial semi's, was by sfoft lag • better system of colonial government. (Hear, kn. ) MI there were military stations, such as Malts and Oirst tar, which must be kept garrisoned, and something me t h allowed for reliefs. He knew one regiment which had boa 23 years in India, 9 in the Mauritius, 13 in the Cape, only 9 in England and was now going out again to roil 16 years. He could not consent so to reduce the 'my to make the reform of such a system impossible. Sir W. MOLESWORTH wished to state briefly hi!fik sons for the vote he was about to give. His hon. frWe, lt member for Montrose, proposed to make a warded 14,000 men in the force of the army, exclusive of that n India, and to return to the establishment of 1835. Coo, this reduction be made without detriment to the internal the empire ? Was the number of soldiers escessire thi r at home or abroad ? At home the military fore sue to about 61,000 men, or about 11,600 men more than is leu Was this force too great When he remembered theret_, of lest year in Ireland—when ha coneidared that telling!. reinforcements must be provided for 28,000 British none ! India, and that the places of those b rav e soldiers net; filled up who were led on to unnecessary slaughter hi and incompetent generals—when he considered et reliefs were likewise to be provided for 33,9!, British troops in the colonies—that the Berne" those troops were of the most arduous and du kind—for instance, bush-fighting and driving cattle at tk ce ~ Cape—guarding convicts in Australia—and comhstiog savages in New Zealand—when he considered that Ern those troops were stationed amidst the snows of Curi o others broiling in the tropics—he acknowledged it yreeh l _ cruel and unjust to compel them to pass the greats of their Allies in such inglorious services. filee'•/, therefore could not at present vete for any fete of the army at home which 'would lead to Goa of the period of military service in the admit& 'r should, however, vote for a reduction of the Iltiliten z f f° " " the colonies, on the grounds that if the colonies were ~ governed half the present military force in them _,; ✓afficiert. At present the force in the colonies cooorr.., about 32,000 British troomend 10,000 men of coloured or I masking in all 42,0010 men (exclusive of artillery 0,1,L, glum), or about 2 600 , men more than in 183 6 . 'Y.; including artillery, &c.) must cost this countle;* 1,500,0001. a yoar. He should first propose to the boa make a considerable reduction in the force in the Nations, which amounted to about 22,000 men. Ifs begin with withdrawing th e troops from the lonian Great Britain was not bound, either by treaties Intei: great powers of Europe, or by convention with the r,7 states, to keep any spc number of troops in those MO' But he considered tUt the lonian states were bound by Pr Tendon to pay all the expenses of the British troops, • 3,000 men which had been about the average Ib. her of troops in that* islands. It would, however, he, ,7", - ," Impossible for them to fulfil this agreement. It wool: required a sum larger than their whole revenue. Th . rtf' ,nth from time to time fresh agreements had been mote os them for smaller and smaller contributions of account of military protection. Those agotleseh te 0 ,1 of have never been able to ful fi l for any considera ble pen , time ; at present they must be indebted to this countr y 071. sum of about 200 1.,0M It was but fair, howev er ' t° th eir tics that they have paid since Great Britain bees not of reoogeised protector in 1816 about 800 , 0001. on .a the military protection—a sum enormous in propoonoa me _ sco g population of the lonian Islands, which did t